From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Apr 1 05:35:40 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 05:35:40 -0500 Subject: Now here is an alien dream Message-ID: Yes Ronald Mcdonald was a child molestor catholic priest. Even though the food isn't fit for a dog, they manage to lure in the innocent children. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 9:46 PM Subject: Re: Now here is an alien dream > Evil, or the satanic scene, is an invention of the catholic church - the satanic bible was practically written by the paranoid priests of old times. Before the catholic church there was no satanic religion as it stands today. Or am I thinking of the McDonalds chain? > I often get those three confused. > > ---------------------- > Well what if that Cat was right. Maybe he ate those Mcdonalds pickles or the > Chicken special. Who says what evil is? I think he's catholic myself. STEPHE From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 1 05:32:14 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:32:14 +0100 Subject: Sir Ian Kilminster? Message-ID: >From the BBC website: Prime Minister Tony Blair, suffering his worst drop in popularity since the 1997 election of New Labour, has decided to emulate previous Labour Prime Minister Harold Wilson's granting of Knighthoods to The Beatles. Tony Blair is planning to announce a small number of rock and pop icons in the Honours list for the Queen's Birthday. Strongly tipped are Paul Weller and Ian "Lemmy" Kilminster who are known to be favourites of the Prime Minister. In his youth Tony Blair played guitar in a band and a few years ago donated his guitar to the Royal Scottish Museum for their modern icons exhibit. The Prime Minister should however note that while Harold Wilson's move did improve his image with Britain's youth, it produced anger amongst some of the older generation, some of whom returned their medals to Downing Street in protest. A spokesman at Downing Street pointed out that the music industry was one of Britain's great export successes and that it was felt that this should be recognised in New Labour's efforts to promote commerce and business. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Apr 1 05:41:12 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:41:12 +0100 Subject: Sir Ian Kilminster? Message-ID: What's the date today... Hmmm. :-) R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 11:32 AM Subject: Sir Ian Kilminster? > >From the BBC website: > > Prime Minister Tony Blair, suffering his worst drop in popularity since > the 1997 election of New Labour, has decided to emulate previous Labour > Prime Minister Harold Wilson's granting of Knighthoods to The Beatles. > > Tony Blair is planning to announce a small number of rock and pop icons > in the Honours list for the Queen's Birthday. Strongly tipped are Paul > Weller and Ian "Lemmy" Kilminster who are known to be favourites of the > Prime Minister. In his youth Tony Blair played guitar in a band and a > few years ago donated his guitar to the Royal Scottish Museum for their > modern icons exhibit. > > The Prime Minister should however note that while Harold Wilson's move > did improve his image with Britain's youth, it produced anger amongst > some of the older generation, some of whom returned their medals to > Downing Street in protest. A spokesman at Downing Street pointed out > that the music industry was one of Britain's great export successes and > that it was felt that this should be recognised in New Labour's efforts > to promote commerce and business. > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 1 05:41:52 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:41:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Lab coat history In-Reply-To: dave hall's message of Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:59:10 -0000 Message-ID: dave hall writes: > After the last Hawkwind gig I was in discussion with some others re the = > demise of the Lab coat at gigs. You know every gig had at least one guy = > with one, usually with ISOS or the Space Ritual logo on the back (name = > the guilty!). What are the origins of this - we've nailed it to the = > Quark sleeve and Dave wearing one one stage. Any pre-1977 sightings? I thought it started after Dave wore one on stage in 1976. It became usual to see it at every gig in the early 80's. Of course in my duties as The Laminator, I felt I had to organise a minibus full of people all wearing borrowed labcoats from medical students to do a run from St Andrews to Edinburgh for the Levitation tour. That can't have hurt the trend... FoFP From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 1 11:39:46 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 17:39:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Lab coat history Message-ID: Ah ha, Lab coat elitism eh. Medical students! Seriously though, I've worked in labs for around twenty years and have never been tempted to wear one at a gig! Although I tempted by the rather natty disposable white oversuits with matching overshoes, and contrasting blue gloves and facemask. Trouble is I'd start the gig weighing in at 14 stone and end up as a puddle. Dave -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 01 April 2002 11:42 Subject: Re: HW: Lab coat history >dave hall writes: > >> After the last Hawkwind gig I was in discussion with some others re the = >> demise of the Lab coat at gigs. You know every gig had at least one guy = >> with one, usually with ISOS or the Space Ritual logo on the back (name = >> the guilty!). What are the origins of this - we've nailed it to the = >> Quark sleeve and Dave wearing one one stage. Any pre-1977 sightings? > >I thought it started after Dave wore one on stage in 1976. It became >usual to see it at every gig in the early 80's. > >Of course in my duties as The Laminator, I felt I had to organise a >minibus full of people all wearing borrowed labcoats from medical >students to do a run from St Andrews to Edinburgh for the Levitation >tour. That can't have hurt the trend... > >FoFP > From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Mon Apr 1 11:59:25 2002 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 17:59:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Lab coat history In-Reply-To: <005c01c1d99b$d65f1b80$ac59893e@default> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 17:39:46 +0100, you sent through the ether: >Although I tempted by the rather natty disposable white oversuits with >matching overshoes, We bought a pile of these for the last ICU show, but the test session at rehearsal was so humiliating we abandoned the idea.. :) But at ?1 per suit who could resist? -S. From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Mon Apr 1 13:35:45 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 13:35:45 EST Subject: Sir Ian Kilminster? Message-ID: Hook, Line and Sinker!! Bill From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Apr 1 13:54:57 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 13:54:57 EST Subject: Sir Ian Kilminster? Message-ID: I don't know what the date is. Never do - Can't see the sun nor the moons around my planet. Theres a dense haze of discarded mcdonadlz pickles in orbit so basically can't see shit really - thats why I keep treading in it - dog shit mostly. I think it would be as funny as hell to see Lemmy get a medal like that - especially when they pinned it on - would Lemmy clear a space on his jacket for it do you think? or do they just hand it to you in a case? I've never had one b4 so I don't know. He should also get a medal from Jim Beam or who ever for helping keep the booze company alive. ----------------------- What's the date today... Hmmm. :-) From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Apr 1 13:59:06 2002 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 18:59:06 GMT Subject: OFF: DGM is no more?? Message-ID: check out the main page for disciplineglobalmobile.com odd! --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Apr 1 14:05:15 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:05:15 EST Subject: Now here is an alien dream Message-ID: Wouldn't he make a striking pope though??? Perfect for the job really - --------------------- Yes Ronald Mcdonald was a child molestor catholic priest. Even though the food isn't fit for a dog, they manage to lure in the innocent children. From hw at CY-B.ORG Mon Apr 1 16:14:58 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 16:14:58 -0500 Subject: HW: Huw Lloyd Langton Dates Message-ID: A Few Forthcoming Huw Lloyd Langton Dates....... ----------------------------------------------- FRIDAY 5TH APRIL THE UPLANDS TAVERN, 42 UPLANDS CRESCENT SWANSEA SA2 0PG TEL: 01792 458 242 ----------------------------------------------- SATURDAY 6TH APRIL DUKE OF WELLINGTON 8 OLD MARKET STREET NEATH SOUTH WALES SA11 3NA TEL: 01639 643 892 ----------------------------------------------- THURSDAY 18TH APRIL ROYAL STANDARD WALTHAMSTOW, LONDON E17 TEL: 020 8523 0055 ----------------------------------------------- From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Apr 1 16:26:11 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 16:26:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Huw Lloyd Langton Dates Message-ID: HI, Is any one going to be bringing recording equipment to any of these? If so email me off list and I'll set you up with a trade. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Rx" To: Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 4:14 PM Subject: Re: HW: Huw Lloyd Langton Dates > A Few Forthcoming Huw Lloyd Langton Dates....... > ----------------------------------------------- > FRIDAY 5TH APRIL > THE UPLANDS TAVERN, > 42 UPLANDS CRESCENT > SWANSEA SA2 0PG > TEL: 01792 458 242 > ----------------------------------------------- > SATURDAY 6TH APRIL > DUKE OF WELLINGTON > 8 OLD MARKET STREET > NEATH > SOUTH WALES SA11 3NA > TEL: 01639 643 892 > ----------------------------------------------- > THURSDAY 18TH APRIL > ROYAL STANDARD > WALTHAMSTOW, > LONDON E17 > TEL: 020 8523 0055 > ----------------------------------------------- From nycademon at ATTBI.COM Mon Apr 1 17:05:19 2002 From: nycademon at ATTBI.COM (nycademon at ATTBI.COM) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 15:05:19 -0700 Subject: OFF: DGM is no more?? In-Reply-To: <200204011858.g31Iwqn31550@mail.acmenet.net> Message-ID: April Fools? From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Apr 1 17:16:47 2002 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 17:16:47 -0500 Subject: OFF: DGM is no more?? In-Reply-To: <3CA8772F.4871.C6A58@localhost> Message-ID: At 03:05 PM 4/1/02 -0700, you wrote: >April Fools? Can't imagine Robert Fripp doing practical jokes, can you? From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Mon Apr 1 17:57:28 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 17:57:28 -0500 Subject: HW: 3 days in July Message-ID: So can anyone say for certain, is the 3-day HW passport-holders-only party still slated for July 19 through 21? I have requested those vacation days off from work, but I'm reluctant to purchase my airline tickets from the USA to the UK until I know for sure what's happening... John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 1 17:57:43 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 23:57:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Lab coat history In-Reply-To: dave hall's message of Mon, 1 Apr 2002 17:39:46 +0100 Message-ID: dave hall writes: > Ah ha, Lab coat elitism eh. Medical students! Seriously though, I've > worked in labs for around twenty years and have never been tempted to > wear one at a gig! Although I tempted by the rather natty disposable > white oversuits with matching overshoes, and contrasting blue gloves > and facemask. Trouble is I'd start the gig weighing in at 14 stone > and end up as a puddle. Yeah, I always fancied turning up at a gig in a movie spacesuit or a biohazard suit but concluded that there'd be that problem. FoFP From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Apr 1 18:03:46 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 18:03:46 EST Subject: Sir Ian Kilminster? Message-ID: Whats fishing got to do with Hawkwind - boc or Lemmy? Quick - get the straight jacket and get this bloke outta here before he posts another one of his evil off topic emails........ Better yet, lets call in an airstrike - and do the job properly - Bruce of Smeg ------------------- Hook, Line and Sinker!! Bill From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Apr 1 18:14:59 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 18:14:59 -0500 Subject: Sir Ian Kilminster? Message-ID: Fishing for the Fillet O fish with the special sauce. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Sir Ian Kilminster? > Whats fishing got to do with Hawkwind - boc or Lemmy? > Quick - get the straight jacket and get this bloke outta here before he posts another one of his evil off topic emails........ > Better yet, lets call in an airstrike - and do the job properly - > > Bruce of Smeg > > ------------------- > Hook, Line and Sinker!! > > Bill From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Apr 1 18:43:49 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 18:43:49 EST Subject: HW: 3 days in July Message-ID: Same here.... but Mission control does say they will post the info in the next few weeks. Eagerly awaiting ----------------- So can anyone say for certain, is the 3-day HW passport-holders-only party still slated for July 19 through 21? I have requested those vacation days off from work, but I'm reluctant to purchase my airline tickets from the USA to the UK until I know for sure what's happening... John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Apr 1 23:00:42 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 23:00:42 -0500 Subject: OFF: Sir Ian Kilminster? Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:32:14 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >"From the BBC website": > >Prime Minister Tony Blair, suffering his worst drop in popularity since >the 1997 election of New Labour, has decided to emulate previous Labour >Prime Minister Harold Wilson's granting of Knighthoods to The Beatles... > >The Prime Minister should however note that while Harold Wilson's move >did improve his image with Britain's youth, it produced anger amongst >some of the older generation, some of whom returned their medals to >Downing Street in protest... I believe it was the Kinks (or maybe the Who), who on their first US tour, explained to the apparently-credulous interviewer that they had turned down MBE medals on the grounds that those should not be given to bankers, matrons and generals, but should rather be given EXCLUSIVELY to pop stars. Only under those circumstances would they accept the title ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Apr 1 23:10:11 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 23:10:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Lab coat history Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 23:57:43 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >dave hall writes: > >> Ah ha, Lab coat elitism eh. Medical students! Seriously though, I've >> worked in labs for around twenty years and have never been tempted to >> wear one at a gig! Although I tempted by the rather natty disposable >> white oversuits with matching overshoes, and contrasting blue gloves >> and facemask. Trouble is I'd start the gig weighing in at 14 stone >> and end up as a puddle. > >Yeah, I always fancied turning up at a gig in a movie spacesuit or a >biohazard suit but concluded that there'd be that problem. ... my halloween costume this year (in remarkably poor taste) involved a lab coat, facemask, rubber gloves, several vials of white powder, and envelopes "addressed" to "the librull nooz meedia", "spoketator of the sennit", etc. I didn't wear it in public for fear of being arrested. Of course I wore a lab coat for the Hawkwind tribute gig I did (even though I was filling the Calvert/House/Dettmar roles, not Dave's), and have for a few others. As far as *uncomfortable* gig outfits, the plastic biohazard- type jumpsuit I wore in the Devo tribute band was pretty excruciating, especially with a bulky skateboarding helmet on (fortunately the yellow jumpsuits only lasted about half a set before we'd strip down to shorts and t-shirts). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Tue Apr 2 03:57:39 2002 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 09:57:39 +0100 Subject: HW:What's happened to www.hawkwind.com Message-ID: Does anyone know what's happened to http://www.hawkwind.com I don't get that 'page not found' error anymore... From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 2 06:28:46 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:28:46 +0100 Subject: What's this new comp CD? Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=854394914 From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 2 06:38:47 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:38:47 +0100 Subject: any hawkfans in Vancouver? Message-ID: I'm over for some skiing and taking in the sights. If anyone is up for a pint (and to show me where to get a good one) or skiing, then email me. Cheers FoFP From novadrive at COX.NET Tue Apr 2 09:10:24 2002 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 07:10:24 -0700 Subject: HW: What's this new comp CD? In-Reply-To: <200204021128.MAA11779@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: The new comp CD is an old comp CD. A fairly good one, at that, so far as that goes. It's from Castle, released in 1998, and contains all of the Anthology Vol 1, 2 & 3 stuff remastered, plus Silver Machine (Live '79), Time We Left (Palace Springs), Needle Gun (Live Chronicles), Wastelands of Sleep (Xenon Codex), Out of the Shadows (Space Bandits), Gimme Shelter (IITBOTFTBD), and Right to Decide (Electric Tepee). Triple fold-out digipac, with nice graphics, and a reprint booklet of Brian Tawn's text for "The Approved History of Hawkwind" from the 3-LP set. KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 4:29 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: What's this new comp CD? > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=854394914 > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Apr 2 09:37:12 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 09:37:12 EST Subject: HW:What's happened to www.hawkwind.com Message-ID: Wasn't that the old "Official" Hawkwind website? I was under the impression that it shut down for whatever reasons - I was wondering tho - if you ever found any use for that art work I sent you other than the trash can - you never did get back to me - cheers -------------------- >>>Does anyone know what's happened to http://www.hawkwind.com I don't get that 'page not found' error anymore... From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Apr 2 10:04:18 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:04:18 EST Subject: any hawkfans in Vancouver? Message-ID: You're 30 years to late - but then again I was a wee bit young to be thinking about pints when I was in Vancouver....... Vancouver Canada - 1968 - 1970 --------------------- I'm over for some skiing and taking in the sights. If anyone is up for a pint (and to show me where to get a good one) or skiing, then email me. Cheers FoFP From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Tue Apr 2 10:06:46 2002 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:06:46 +0100 Subject: HW:What's happened to www.hawkwind.com Message-ID: Don't worry Michael, I've sent you a personal reply. From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Apr 2 10:43:48 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:43:48 EST Subject: any hawkfans in Vancouver? Message-ID: No stop in NYC? Bill From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 2 10:46:40 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:46:40 +0100 Subject: any hawkfans in Vancouver? In-Reply-To: Bill Stewart's message of Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:43:48 EST Message-ID: Bill Stewart writes: > No stop in NYC? Not this time Bill. Sorry. FoFP From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Apr 2 14:33:39 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:33:39 -0500 Subject: HW:What's happened to www.hawkwind.com In-Reply-To: <3CA97283.9E9F8481@cinesite.co.uk>; from keithb@CINESITE.CO.UK on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 09:57:39AM +0100 Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 09:57:39AM +0100, Keith Barton wrote: > Does anyone know what's happened to http://www.hawkwind.com > > I don't get that 'page not found' error anymore... It now redirects to the same place as does www.hawkwind.org.uk. But unlike the latter site, it carefully hides the fact from the user. *Grumble*. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. - Anonymous From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Apr 2 17:32:38 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 23:32:38 +0100 Subject: Honeymoon Message-ID: Hi guys, I get married on the 2nd of June, fly to Las Vegas on the third, and then spend 6 nights each in Las Vegas, New Orleans, Orlando and NYC (Where I'll be spending at least one day in McCaffrey And Burkes, Astoria, Queens). If anyone fancies a beer, let me know. Cheers, Rich. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Apr 2 17:15:38 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 17:15:38 -0500 Subject: OFF: Speaker/Cranker Message-ID: Hey Folks...for those interested... Looks like the www.speakercranker.com website has just been relaunched, with some cool new stuff. There's a few MP3's that look to be live recordings of improv material. Nothing new about a long-awaited second CD release though. They also announce this awesome-looking show that unfortunately I probably won't get to. I'm guessing that the S/C guys might be backing Damo here, as Farflung did last year? Monday MAY 13th DAMO SUZUKI CUL DE SAC SPEAKER\CRANKER The Grog Shop in Cleveland, OH From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Apr 2 17:49:54 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 17:49:54 -0500 Subject: OFF: Damo Suzuki/Speaker\Cranker In-Reply-To: <200204022236.RAA09432@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 05:15:38PM -0500 Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 05:15:38PM -0500, K Henderson wrote: > [...] this awesome-looking show that unfortunately I probably > won't get to. I'm guessing that the S/C guys might be backing Damo here, as > Farflung did last year? > > Monday MAY 13th > DAMO SUZUKI > CUL DE SAC > SPEAKER\CRANKER > The Grog Shop in Cleveland, OH Nope, Cul de Sac are backing him, as well as opening. The Farflung guys, along with others, are only backing him on Aug. 24 somewhere in WA. Now that'd be awesome! Here's his web site: http://www.damosuzuki.de/ The tour dates are on the "orange" page. N.B.: There are some European dates too, over the summer. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. - Anonymous From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Tue Apr 2 19:03:40 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:03:40 +1000 Subject: Honeymoon Message-ID: Congrats and the offer of the beer is very generous. Can you send me a case of Foster's or Toohey's New to my home address in Sydney? You can probably just ring my local bottle shop. This offer to send everyone on the list free beer is most unusual but none of us will be complaining. Hopefully you can extend this kind offer to a weekly basis or perhaps just replace the carton as it is about to runout. Cheers and thanks again, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:32 AM Subject: Honeymoon > Hi guys, > > I get married on the 2nd of June, fly to Las Vegas on the third, and then > spend 6 nights each in Las Vegas, New Orleans, Orlando and NYC (Where I'll > be spending at least one day in McCaffrey And Burkes, Astoria, Queens). If > anyone fancies a beer, let me know. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Tue Apr 2 18:57:08 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:57:08 -0500 Subject: any hawkfans in Vancouver? Message-ID: Not anymore,but take the ferryboat over to the island,and take a drive through the mountains to the west coast beaches...absolutely beautiful. tim M Holmes wrote: > > I'm over for some skiing and taking in the sights. If anyone is up for a > pint (and to show me where to get a good one) or skiing, then email me. > > Cheers > > FoFP From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Tue Apr 2 18:59:35 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:59:35 -0500 Subject: Honeymoon Message-ID: Best of luck to you,and here's hoping your bride gets to go with you!! tim Richard Lockwood wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I get married on the 2nd of June, fly to Las Vegas on the third, and then > spend 6 nights each in Las Vegas, New Orleans, Orlando and NYC (Where I'll > be spending at least one day in McCaffrey And Burkes, Astoria, Queens). If > anyone fancies a beer, let me know. > > Cheers, > > Rich. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Apr 3 00:15:13 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 06:15:13 +0100 Subject: Honeymoon Message-ID: Hi Steve, Sadly my religion (orthodox Yorkshireman) forbids me to post beer (or even Fosters) - however, if you'd like to turn up in person, I'd be more than pleased to purchase you a few glasses of fizzy wee. :-) Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Skane" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:03 AM Subject: Re: Honeymoon > Congrats and the offer of the beer is very generous. Can you send me a case > of Foster's or Toohey's New to my home address in Sydney? You can probably > just ring my local bottle shop. This offer to send everyone on the list free > beer is most unusual but none of us will be complaining. Hopefully you can > extend this kind offer to a weekly basis or perhaps just replace the carton > as it is about to runout. > > Cheers and thanks again, > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Lockwood" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:32 AM > Subject: Honeymoon > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I get married on the 2nd of June, fly to Las Vegas on the third, and then > > spend 6 nights each in Las Vegas, New Orleans, Orlando and NYC (Where I'll > > be spending at least one day in McCaffrey And Burkes, Astoria, Queens). > If > > anyone fancies a beer, let me know. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Wed Apr 3 01:33:21 2002 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 07:33:21 +0100 Subject: OFF: Orbital - Dr. Who theme music In-Reply-To: <200203281042.FAA06799@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: It's on "Alltogether" (or "Altogether" or "All Together"...) Damn fine it is too ChrisW At 11:42 28/03/02, you wrote: >Hi, >Can anyone tell me where I can find Orbital's version of the Dr. Who theme? > >Regards, >Alastair. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Apr 3 04:10:07 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 04:10:07 -0500 Subject: HW: Final Word on Voiceprint Message-ID: Hi there... Well, if you may remember, 'round Christmastime I put in a 6-CD order (doubling up on their 3-fer-25UKP deal) to Voiceprint for a number of HW-related and other interesting items. They sent four quickly, then another drifted in after another six weeks or so. Last week, I finally wrote to them and enquired about the Gong est Mort CD, and they wrote right back and said that it had *just* come in from the plant or whatever, and sure 'nuff, it came yesterday. And they never did charge me the shipping costs (and they sent three overseas airmail packages in the end!), so I truly did get 6 CDs for 50 quid, or about $75, which is darn reasonable! And I'm patient enough not to care about the delay, and I don't really care much that they charged me all of it at the outset when only four of them had been ready to go out the door at the time. They sent a new catalog that is very similar in appearance. It still says UKP9.99 per item and 3-for-25UKP, so it looks like their regular offer actually. I can tell that there are a few new items listed, like Here 'n' Now's Give and Take CD, that I think may have gone OOP in the recent past, because I was bidding on a copy on Ebay not long ago and it went way higher than I was thinking. So perhaps this is a new reissue? They actually list all the labels and sublabels that these releases are on, and some of them look to be outside of the Voiceprint family (the Gong est Mort for instance is actually on Celluloid in France) so I guess they are doing some distribution of similar things. This Here 'n' Now release is on something called Tin Toy which I've never heard of. Anyway, so I'm thinking about doing another 3CD order for this one and the new Lloyd-Langton (Chain Reaction) and maybe the Talk Talk - Laughing Stock CD that people are telling me is way different and much better than the early 80s stuff of theirs that can't be anything but horrible. Especially with that name! This one is supposedly proto-post-rock material a la Bark Psychosis. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. The Weird Tapes listings have changed...Weird #1-6 are now listed (I guess No. 6 is back in print, as was suggested here earlier I believe), but now #7 isn't listed (is that now oop?). That's the Brock solo one, right? It's listed on the earlier catalog, though there it says Weird 107 as they were originally known on cassette. And wasn't there a Weird 108, and if so, why is there no #8 CD? I'm sure this has been answered before, but I've forgotten what the deal was. From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Wed Apr 3 05:01:02 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?b?TWFyayBWb24gQmFyZ2Vu?=) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:01:02 +0100 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?UmU6ICAgICAgSFc6IEZpbmFsIFdvcmQgb24gVm9pY2VwcmludA==?= Message-ID: Hi, I was talking to somebody in music retail a few weeks back about Voiceprint and the trouble I was having getting their releases. He told me that they are PRIMARILY A DISTRIBUTION COMPANY for small independent labels although they do sign up some artists themselves. To confuse the matter even further, he said that they also use Pinnacle for UK distribution (never got my head around a distribution company using another distribution company, tho' there must be some marketing reasons for it). Mark ---- K Henderson wrote: Hi there... [snip] They actually list all the labels and sublabels that these releases are on, and some of them look to be outside of the Voiceprint family (the Gong est Mort ????????? ??????? ??? ??????? ???????????? ? ????????$???????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ???????????Q????!????????9??????? ???????????????????? ?????Q???Q??????? ?$???????????? ??????4(4)m????t4(4)}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}|4)I??????? ???? ? ?????????? ??????????? ???? ???? ??????? ? ????=???4)M?????????? ?????????????????????4( From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Apr 3 05:15:30 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:15:30 +0100 Subject: Voiceprint thingy Message-ID: Is the CD they promised to ticketholders for the xmas gig out yet? FoFP From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Apr 3 13:58:18 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 13:58:18 -0500 Subject: HW: Final Word on Voiceprint Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:01:02 +0100, =?iso-8859-1?b?TWFyayBWb24gQmFyZ2Vu?= wrote: >I was talking to somebody in music retail a few weeks back about >Voiceprint and the trouble I was having getting their releases. >He told me that they are PRIMARILY A DISTRIBUTION COMPANY for small >independent labels although they do sign up some artists themselves. Thanks for posting this, Mark! A lot of people here seem to not quite understand the Voiceprint situation. You are correct that they are NOT a label in the traditional sense (in that actually "signing" an artist is not the norm for them). I suspect that their deal with Hawkwind (and the Fall, and Man, and Gong, and all the other bands that they're releasing on "private" labels - Cog Sinister, Point, and GAS, respectively in these 3 cases) is a "Manufacturing and Distributing" (known as M&D in the business, and a very common practice for independent labels working with a larger independent distributor) deal. If that is indeed the case, then those two tasks are probably *all* that Voiceprint is responsible for - NOT the artwork, not the track selection, not the promotion, not the mastering, not tour support, not any of the other things (besides manufacturing and distribution) that "full service" labels are generally associated with (in other words, "blaming" Voiceprint for not providing these services is entirely misguided unless the deal is some sort of "enhanced" M&D deal that covers more than those two tasks). >To confuse the matter even further, he said that they also use Pinnacle >for UK distribution (never got my head around a distribution company >using another distribution company, tho' there must be some marketing >reasons for it). That's not at all uncommon. Oftentimes, stores only want to deal with *one* independent distributor (saves time, makes accounting simpler, etc.), or a smaller independent distributor may distribute stuff through a larger independent distributor in order to get its titles out to the larger stores (Virgins & Towers & Best Buys & all). The end result is still the same, though - the artist always gets paid last (unless they sell direct through their own label)! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From frankw at STC.CORP.MOT.COM Wed Apr 3 15:59:47 2002 From: frankw at STC.CORP.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 14:59:47 -0600 Subject: HW: Newest Hawkwind fan! Message-ID: My wife gave birth this last Thursday to our second little Hawkwind fan: Sarah Ann Weil 28 March 2002 10:31 AM 7 lbs. 19.5 inches ... and damn is she cute! (I am not biased at all :-) After a bit of a rocky start to things (some complications from the spinal block for the C-section she had to have), my wife and daughter are doing fairly well. Although she doesn't really let on yet that she likes Hawkind, I am sure that she secretly does from the pre-natal exposure. :-) Proud Dad, Frank -- The Feynman problem solving algorithm: You write down the problem. You think very hard. Then you write down the answer. -- Murray Gell-Mann ============================================================ Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Apr 3 16:23:38 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:23:38 -0500 Subject: Newest Hawkwind fan! Message-ID: Congratulations Man!! Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Weil" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:59 PM Subject: HW: Newest Hawkwind fan! > My wife gave birth this last Thursday to our second little Hawkwind fan: > > Sarah Ann Weil > 28 March 2002 > 10:31 AM > 7 lbs. > 19.5 inches > > ... and damn is she cute! (I am not biased at all :-) > > After a bit of a rocky start to things (some complications from the > spinal block for the C-section she had to have), my wife and daughter > are doing fairly well. > > Although she doesn't really let on yet that she likes Hawkind, I am sure > that she secretly does from the pre-natal exposure. :-) > > Proud Dad, > Frank > > -- > The Feynman problem solving algorithm: You write down the > problem. You think very hard. Then you write down the > answer. -- Murray Gell-Mann > ============================================================ > Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com > phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Wed Apr 3 16:46:02 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 07:46:02 +1000 Subject: Newest Hawkwind fan! Message-ID: Congratulations Frank. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Weil" To: Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:59 AM Subject: HW: Newest Hawkwind fan! > My wife gave birth this last Thursday to our second little Hawkwind fan: > > Sarah Ann Weil > 28 March 2002 > 10:31 AM > 7 lbs. > 19.5 inches > > ... and damn is she cute! (I am not biased at all :-) > > After a bit of a rocky start to things (some complications from the > spinal block for the C-section she had to have), my wife and daughter > are doing fairly well. > > Although she doesn't really let on yet that she likes Hawkind, I am sure > that she secretly does from the pre-natal exposure. :-) > > Proud Dad, > Frank > > -- > The Feynman problem solving algorithm: You write down the > problem. You think very hard. Then you write down the > answer. -- Murray Gell-Mann > ============================================================ > Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com > phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 > From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Apr 3 16:58:21 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 22:58:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Final Word on Voiceprint Message-ID: Not true - they sign up a lot of artists themselves. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: Re: HW: Final Word on Voiceprint > Hi, > > I was talking to somebody in music retail a few weeks back about Voiceprint and the trouble I was having getting their releases. > He told me that they are PRIMARILY A DISTRIBUTION COMPANY for small independent labels although they do sign up some artists themselves. > To confuse the matter even further, he said that they also use Pinnacle for UK distribution (never got my head around a distribution company using another distribution company, tho' there must be some marketing reasons for it). > > Mark > > ---- K Henderson wrote: > > Hi there... > > [snip] They actually list all the labels and sublabels that these releases are on, and some of them look to be outside of the Voiceprint family (the Gong est Mort ?T???????.??"????.???.??????? .??????????? ?.??"?????$???.?????.??.?"?'???o????"?'?????????????~??????.???????????Q???? !.?"???o?9????.?..?"??????????.????o??.??.??Q???Q??????? ?$??"??.?.???..????~?4(4)m????t4(4)}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} }}}}}}}}|4)I.?.??"?.????.?.?"??????.?.?????????.?.????.???T.?.????? ? .??.=?"?4)M?????????'.?"??????.??.??"??????4( > From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Wed Apr 3 17:33:39 2002 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (Jean-Charles Moriaud) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 00:33:39 +0200 Subject: Concert in Paris in 95? Message-ID: Anybody an answer for me? Thanks in advance, MJC -----Message d'origine----- De : BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] De la part de jean-charles moriaud Envoy? : vendredi 18 mai 2001 01:41 ? : Objet : Concert in Paris in 95? I had sent a review of the B?C concert in Paris in 95 at Elys?e Montmartre to the list at that time. By chance, did someone still have a copy of this one. I deleted mine by error... I remeber there was a site with all B?C concerts and their reviews, but didn't find it. Thanks and best regards, JCMoriaud BOC Fan from France From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Apr 3 17:34:42 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 17:34:42 -0500 Subject: BOC: Concert in Paris in 95? Message-ID: >Anybody an answer for me? Thanks in advance, MJC Look here... http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9512C&L=BOC-L&P=R1868 Doesn't anybody know how to search the boc-l archives??? Of course, they only go back to mid-1995, so this was a close one. Grakkl (FAA) From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Wed Apr 3 18:07:53 2002 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (Jean-Charles Moriaud) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 01:07:53 +0200 Subject: BOC: Concert in Paris in 95? In-Reply-To: <0GU0004D4L0ZSN@mail-mta5.service.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Thanks, and sorry, I missed it in the archives... ;-( Cheers, MJC -----Message d'origine----- De : BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] De la part de K Henderson Envoy? : jeudi 4 avril 2002 00:35 ? : BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Objet : Re: BOC: Concert in Paris in 95? >Anybody an answer for me? Thanks in advance, MJC Look here... http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9512C&L=BOC-L&P=R1868 Doesn't anybody know how to search the boc-l archives??? Of course, they only go back to mid-1995, so this was a close one. Grakkl (FAA) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 3 18:26:53 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:26:53 EST Subject: Honeymoon Message-ID: May you both be blessed with a lifetime of joys and happiness - and more. Have fun trippin around too - sounds like a blast Michael ---------------------- Hi guys, I get married on the 2nd of June, fly to Las Vegas on the third, and then spend 6 nights each in Las Vegas, New Orleans, Orlando and NYC (Where I'll be spending at least one day in McCaffrey And Burkes, Astoria, Queens). If anyone fancies a beer, let me know. From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Apr 3 18:26:51 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:26:51 -0500 Subject: HW: Newest Hawkwind fan! Message-ID: Congratulations,Frank...i know you're gonna have a great time with her when she gets a bit older...little girls are the greatest. tim Frank Weil wrote: > > My wife gave birth this last Thursday to our second little Hawkwind fan: > > Sarah Ann Weil > 28 March 2002 > 10:31 AM > 7 lbs. > 19.5 inches > > ... and damn is she cute! (I am not biased at all :-) > > After a bit of a rocky start to things (some complications from the > spinal block for the C-section she had to have), my wife and daughter > are doing fairly well. > > Although she doesn't really let on yet that she likes Hawkind, I am sure > that she secretly does from the pre-natal exposure. :-) > > Proud Dad, > Frank > > -- > The Feynman problem solving algorithm: You write down the > problem. You think very hard. Then you write down the > answer. -- Murray Gell-Mann > ============================================================ > Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com > phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 3 18:36:52 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:36:52 EST Subject: Honeymoon - beeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr Message-ID: The price of beer in Sydney is outrageous but South Australia is quite ok - send the cartons to me and I will try to send them around to the guys - tee hee ------------------- >>Congrats and the offer of the beer is very generous. Can you send me a case of Foster's or Toohey's New to my home address in Sydney? You can probably just ring my local bottle shop. This offer to send everyone on the list free beer is most unusual but none of us will be complaining. Hopefully you can extend this kind offer to a weekly basis or perhaps just replace the carton as it is about to runout From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 3 19:53:08 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 19:53:08 EST Subject: Newest Hawkwind fan! Message-ID: Congrats man - I'll light up a cigar today in celebration of you new family member :-) So cool! > My wife gave birth this last Thursday to our second little Hawkwind fan: From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Wed Apr 3 20:08:26 2002 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:08:26 -0700 Subject: HW: Newest Hawkwind fan! Message-ID: congratulations!! Please tickle her toeses for me! Pam Frank Weil wrote: > My wife gave birth this last Thursday to our second little Hawkwind fan: > > Sarah Ann Weil > 28 March 2002 > 10:31 AM > 7 lbs. > 19.5 inches > > ... and damn is she cute! (I am not biased at all :-) > > After a bit of a rocky start to things (some complications from the > spinal block for the C-section she had to have), my wife and daughter > are doing fairly well. > > Although she doesn't really let on yet that she likes Hawkind, I am sure > that she secretly does from the pre-natal exposure. :-) > > Proud Dad, > Frank > > -- > The Feynman problem solving algorithm: You write down the > problem. You think very hard. Then you write down the > answer. -- Murray Gell-Mann > ============================================================ > Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com > phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Congratulations! My wife is due in one month. We know it's going to be a boy. Another HW fan on the way!! Dan Frank Weil wrote: > My wife gave birth this last Thursday to our second little Hawkwind fan: > > Sarah Ann Weil > 28 March 2002 > 10:31 AM > 7 lbs. > 19.5 inches > > ... and damn is she cute! (I am not biased at all :-) > > After a bit of a rocky start to things (some complications from the > spinal block for the C-section she had to have), my wife and daughter > are doing fairly well. > > Although she doesn't really let on yet that she likes Hawkind, I am sure > that she secretly does from the pre-natal exposure. :-) > > Proud Dad, > Frank > > -- > The Feynman problem solving algorithm: You write down the > problem. You think very hard. Then you write down the > answer. -- Murray Gell-Mann > ============================================================ > Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com > phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Well I'm almost certainly the only Hawkwind fan living in Las Vegas and yeah, I would love to meet up for a pint! Cheers Steve Starfarer's Hawkwind Page - http://www.starfarer.net ---------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 23:32:38 +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote: >Hi guys, > >I get married on the 2nd of June, fly to Las Vegas on the third, and then >spend 6 nights each in Las Vegas, New Orleans, Orlando and NYC (Where I'll >be spending at least one day in McCaffrey And Burkes, Astoria, Queens). If >anyone fancies a beer, let me know. > >Cheers, > >Rich. From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Apr 4 08:30:26 2002 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 08:30:26 -0500 Subject: BOC: BOC on cover of Discoveries Magazine Message-ID: Discoveries, a record/CD collecting magazine similar to Goldmine (although not quite as big) has BOC on this month's cover - the article is called "Blue Oyster Cult: The Last 20 Years" (or something like that) and talks a lot about the band's history since the early 80's. Mostly the article focusses on the 90's and into this century, with a lot of emphasis on the new guys - Bobby Rondinelli and Danny Miranda (not that they are exactly "new" anymore). Not a bad article, if you can find Discoveries (I know Barnes & Noble carries it). John From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Apr 4 10:39:37 2002 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 09:39:37 -0600 Subject: OFF: Smart Glass Knows When It Needs Another Beer Message-ID: Smart Glass Knows When It Needs Another Beer Thu Apr 4, 8:54 AM ET LONDON (Reuters) - Drink up that beer -- another will soon be whisked to the table thanks to a hi-tech pint glass that tells bar staff when it needs refilling. Developed by a Japanese electronics company, the intelligent glass is fitted with a radio-frequency coil in its base and emits a signal to a receiver set in the table when it's empty, New Scientist magazine reported Thursday. The iGlassware system works by coating each glass with a clear, conducting material, enabling it to measure exactly how much liquid has been sipped or guzzled. When empty, the glass sends an electronic cry for more beer from the table to waiters equipped with hand-held computers on frequencies similar to those used by mobile phones. A team from the Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratories working in Cambridge, Massachusetts has made the first prototypes, but may find it hard to sell the idea to Britons. "It sounds like a fun idea, but I don't think it would work in our pubs," said a spokesman for J.D. Wetherspoon, which runs over 500 pubs in Britain. "The tradition in Britain is to get up and go to the bar for a round of drinks, not to have a waiter bring beers to the table, no matter how quickly," he said. -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=4&u=/nm/20020404/od_nm/glass_dc_1 From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 4 14:57:16 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:57:16 -0500 Subject: HW: More on Voiceprint Message-ID: Hey... Just today, I received a separate mailing from the Voiceprint folx, a little magazine (Issue 3, Winter 2002) entitled 'Newsprint,' with articles and reviews of the artists in the family. A short review of Yule Ritual is included. And a tracklist of that sampler CD that someone was asking about. Though I didn't actually get one of those! It says on the bottom of that page that if it wasn't enclosed to then contact them. And then it says "ONLY AVAILABLE WHILE STOCKS LAST". Obviously, stocks didn't last long enough for me. So why contact them if they don't have any more?! Weird. Well, whatever, it does give a release schedule up to the end of February, so I can tell you that the Here 'n' Now (Give and Take) *is* a new re-release, and it so it must have gone OOP which was why the Ebay copy late last year went in the 20s I suppose. Also, I just noticed on the small catalog that came with the Gong shipment that it now clearly says that overseas postage for the 3/25UKP will be an extra 3 UKP. I wonder why I got it free last time? Maybe just because they hadn't actually printed it on the order form before and so people were confused. (Actually, there's still no place to write the P&P charge in on the order form.) Well, whatever...anything good on that sampler? Looks like a lot of stuff I couldn't really care too much about actually. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. The Newsprint zine also contains an 'ad' for an exclusive offer (to Newsprint readers only...not sure how that's authenticated?) for the DVD collection we've just been talking about (Bedrock program) - 13UKP per DVD, or 3-for-30UKP (+ usual P&P...not sure what that is actually...the same as the CDs or not?). Here's the list of bands in the DVD series... Wishbone Ash, Asia, Ian Gillan, Hawkwind, Caravan, Sky, Strawbs, Classic Rock Anthology (? maybe a comp. of the others?), Rick Wakeman, Steeleye Span, Saxon, Steve Howe, Lindisfarne, Night of the Guitars, and Hatfield & the North. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Apr 4 19:01:46 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 01:01:46 +0100 Subject: Honeymoon Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moonglum ." To: Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:10 AM Subject: Re: Honeymoon > Well I'm almost certainly the only Hawkwind fan living in Las Vegas and > yeah, I would love to meet up for a pint! > > Cheers > > Steve > > Starfarer's Hawkwind Page - http://www.starfarer.net > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 23:32:38 +0100, Richard Lockwood > wrote: > > >Hi guys, > > > >I get married on the 2nd of June, fly to Las Vegas on the third, and then > >spend 6 nights each in Las Vegas, New Orleans, Orlando and NYC (Where I'll > >be spending at least one day in McCaffrey And Burkes, Astoria, Queens). If > >anyone fancies a beer, let me know. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Rich. > From hw at CY-B.ORG Thu Apr 4 19:53:43 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 19:53:43 -0500 Subject: HW: FESTIVAL WEEKEND Message-ID: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: STAR WARRIORS + + + PLEASE NOTE MISSION CONTROL UPDATES. . . . . Passport Festival Programme is being progressed if you wish to attend, REGISTER NOW via the passport gateway.......... http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm Only holders of HAWKWIND PASSPORTS will be able to attend this PRIVATE HAWKWIND WEEKEND FESTIVAL.... so if you do not have a HW Passport yet, follow the instructions on the page above, or you will miss out. . . REMEMBER:- THERE WILL BE NO TICKETS AVAILABLE ON THE DAY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. . . . . you can help no-one else....... THOSE ALREADY REGISTERED WILL BE CONTACTED SOON !!!!! MESSAGE ENDS . . . . . . + + + + ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: www.hawkwind.com www.hawkwind.biz www.hawkwind.org.uk www.hawkwind.info www.hawkestra.info From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 5 06:08:22 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:08:22 +0100 Subject: OFF: Voice Print Sampler In-Reply-To: Chris Raymond's message of Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:19:11 -0500 Message-ID: Chris Raymond writes: > Here it is! > > 1. The Alarm - Rain in Summertime > 2. All About Eve - Wishing the Hours away > 3. Fish - So Fellini > 4. The Fall - Gotta See Jane > 5. Talk Talk - After The Flood > 6. Hawkwind - Flying doctor > 7. Giles Giles & Fripp - Wonderland > 8. Gordon Giltrap - The Racer > 9. The Sound - Winning > 10. John Martyn - Certain Surprise > 11. Jansen, Barbieri & Karn - Bestial Cluster > 12. Little River Band - Where We Started From > 13. John Foxx & Louis Gordon - A Funny Thing > 14. Harold Budd - The Pearl > 15. Bill Nelson - Kinda Fuzzy > 16. McDowell - Diana of the Dogwood > 17. Tim Friese Green - Purple Haze > 18. Martin Stephenson - Orange Is The Colour Of Joy > > Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Bob Lennon > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 7:04 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Voice Print Sampler > > > I know this was discussed a little while back, but I just got my copy of the > Voiceprint sampler, and there are no tracks listed, just came in a plain > sleeve. Any idea which version of Flying Doctor it is? From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 5 06:09:20 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:09:20 +0100 Subject: HW: More on Voiceprint In-Reply-To: K Henderson's message of Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:57:16 -0500 Message-ID: K Henderson writes: > Hey... > > Just today, I received a separate mailing from the Voiceprint folx, a little > magazine (Issue 3, Winter 2002) entitled 'Newsprint,' with articles and > reviews of the artists in the family. A short review of Yule Ritual is > included. And a tracklist of that sampler CD that someone was asking about. > Though I didn't actually get one of those! It says on the bottom of that > page that if it wasn't enclosed to then contact them. And then it says > "ONLY AVAILABLE WHILE STOCKS LAST". Obviously, stocks didn't last long > enough for me. So why contact them if they don't have any more?! Weird. Has anyone got their email address? Can't do any harm to ask for a copy... FoFP From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Fri Apr 5 09:43:12 2002 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 07:43:12 -0700 Subject: HW: More on Voiceprint In-Reply-To: <200204051109.MAA07988@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: If you use this address: info at voiceprint.co.uk then you get this helpful reply: Anne-Marie Hill Office Manager/PA to Rob Ayling Check out our web site at: http://www.voiceprint.co.uk Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of M Holmes Subject: Re: HW: More on Voiceprint > So why contact them if they don't have any more?! Weird. Has anyone got their email address? Can't do any harm to ask for a copy... FoFP From micci at SCI.FI Sat Apr 6 03:35:04 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 11:35:04 +0300 Subject: HW: More on Voiceprint Message-ID: Hi! >Just today, I received a separate mailing from the Voiceprint folx, a little >magazine (Issue 3, Winter 2002) entitled 'Newsprint,' with articles and >reviews of the artists in the family. A short review of Yule Ritual is >included. And a tracklist of that sampler CD that someone was asking about. >Though I didn't actually get one of those! It says on the bottom of that >page that if it wasn't enclosed to then contact them. And then it says >"ONLY AVAILABLE WHILE STOCKS LAST". Obviously, stocks didn't last long >enough for me. So why contact them if they don't have any more?! Weird. I receive this letter also with out cd. I sent message and receive cd! "Funny" thing is, that I still waiting cd what I order about three months ago. >Any idea which version of Flying Doctor it is? from Yule Ritual. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Apr 6 14:30:45 2002 From: hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 20:30:45 +0100 Subject: sir lurch Message-ID: Regardless of the date, PMs can be cunning b*******s - he might be trying to slip this one through the sanity net without being noticed. My advice to mr blair is "Beware, for DEATH awaits thee ... with big, sharp, pointy teeth. NNgnng, nnngnnngngggg, nggggggg." F. Rat. BTW I am trying to contact ANY members of hawkwind (or ex-members), particularly the ones called Brock or Kilminster, for "nefarious" purposes of my own (joke. ish. though no harm shall come to any through this.) If anyone can help, please reply to hawkthing at blueyonder.co.uk Rat From hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Apr 6 15:01:20 2002 From: hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 21:01:20 +0100 Subject: sir lurch Message-ID: Regardless of the date, PMs can be cunning b*******s - he might be trying to slip this one through the sanity net without being noticed. My advice to mr blair is "Beware, for DEATH awaits thee ... with big, sharp, pointy teeth. NNgnng, nnngnnngngggg, nggggggg." F. Rat. BTW I am trying to contact ANY members of hawkwind (or ex-members), particularly the ones called Brock or Kilminster, for "nefarious" purposes of my own (joke. ish. though no harm shall come to any through this.) If anyone can help, please reply to hawkthing at blueyonder.co.uk Rat aka AlienLover aka Hawkthing (btw the alien is my "old lady", "partner", "wor lass", newly met - in this incarnation or manifestation - & soon to be with me permanently & finally in our humble dwelling place upon your world, hopefully with her very small brood of mutants to carry on their infancy "joke" amongst the organised pandemonium with us both.) PS Point your browsers at http://fatrat.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rat and download my home-recorded version (honestly, entirely!) of kings of speed. mp3 is best, and there are a couple of instrumental things there as well. I'm trying to hit something a bit more creative with some other peeps and writing some stuff too, one of the reasons I wanted to contact anyone from the Hawks. From hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Apr 6 15:25:52 2002 From: hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 21:25:52 +0100 Subject: sir lurch Message-ID: Sorry, that's http://www.fatrat.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rat From hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Apr 6 20:37:24 2002 From: hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 02:37:24 +0100 Subject: sir lurch Message-ID: Sorry, that's http://www.fatrat.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rat Sorry to be a miserable pedant, but, what I meant (your majesty) was....your majesty is like a stream of bat's piss. One shines like gold while all around is in darkness. "Shaw". I mean..I didn't m,ean like the song isn't like the result of an "act of creation" or anything, like, it's just that I sometimes feel I haven't reached the "eternal hawk vibe level of streeam of thought conscious photon drive WWWWWAAAAAARRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!" with that version of a classic song, brucie, eh, and it neeeeeds more people on it. I know some. I'm working on it. Life's bin hectic, but it's getting better quick. Rat From novadrive at COX.NET Sat Apr 6 23:44:31 2002 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 21:44:31 -0700 Subject: OFF: STARFIELD: Careful with that CD-R, Eugene... In-Reply-To: <3CAF59D0.1A79D25C@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Starfield's 'Insomniac': for those who don't have it, get one now; it's fantastic! For those who do have it, be careful. It's a little business card-sized CD-R thingy, and I was trying to play it the other day, and my player said 'No Disc" when I knew that I just put it in. I ejected the tray, and the CD-R was magically replaced by a beautiful woman and a tiger, except that there was no beautiful woman or tiger. The crazy thing had jumped out of the tray into the guts of the player. I had to perform surgery to get it out, and whilst it suffered a small crack on one edge due to (I assume) being run over by the tray assembly a few times, it is still playable. I plan to burn it onto a regular-sized CD-R for future listens. I've got a combo CD/DVD/LaserDisc player, which necessitates a fairly complex tray, but this might be a problem on other players as well. KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Apr 7 06:00:23 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 11:00:23 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind and Rush Message-ID: First things first. The new Rush CD is out in May. Check out www.vaportrails.com. I've never had an answer to this one. On which tour did Rush support Hawkwind? And is it true that Rush used Hawkwinds light show in the early eighties. Dave From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Apr 7 06:53:48 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 06:53:48 EDT Subject: sir lurch Message-ID: Hey there Tried to take a peek at your site but it won't load up - says errors and I don't have permission and all that gumf... I also do recording >>>PS Point your browsers at http://fatrat.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rat and download my home-recorded version (honestly, entirely!) of kings of speed. mp3 is best, and there are a couple of instrumental things there as well. I'm trying to hit something a bit more creative with some other peeps and writing some stuff too, one of the reasons I wanted to contact anyone from the Hawks. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Apr 7 06:56:25 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 06:56:25 EDT Subject: sir lurch Message-ID: oooh... hehe - downloading now.... >>>Sorry, that's http://www.fatrat.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rat From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Apr 7 07:15:27 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 07:15:27 EDT Subject: sir lurch Message-ID: Hey - had a listen - cool stuff - except - isn't that Motorhead? Not Kings of Speed.... Still - space rock on.... from: The Finklestein shit kid, son of a bitch..... From mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Apr 7 07:41:07 2002 From: mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM (M&J Storer) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 12:41:07 +0100 Subject: sir lurch Message-ID: Dear f.rat Just a minor detail:- That particular version of "Kings of Speed" is called "Motorhead" Preety gooot though! Mark S ----- Original Message ----- From: "f. rat" To: Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 2:37 AM Subject: sir lurch > Sorry, that's > > http://www.fatrat.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rat > > Sorry to be a miserable pedant, but, what I meant (your majesty) > was....your majesty is like a stream of bat's piss. One shines like gold > while all around is in darkness. "Shaw". I mean..I didn't m,ean like the > song isn't like the result of an "act of creation" or anything, like, > it's just that I sometimes feel I haven't reached the "eternal hawk vibe > level of streeam of thought conscious photon drive > WWWWWAAAAAARRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!" with that version of a classic > song, brucie, eh, and it neeeeeds more people on it. I know some. I'm > working on it. Life's bin hectic, but it's getting better quick. > > Rat From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Sun Apr 7 13:34:15 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 12:34:15 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind and Rush Message-ID: I believe Rush was the support act in 1975 on their "Caress of Steel" tour, opening for Hawkwind. John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net First things first. The new Rush CD is out in May. Check out www.vaportrails.com. I've never had an answer to this one. On which tour did Rush support Hawkwind? And is it true that Rush used Hawkwinds light show in the early eighties. Dave From bill.barwick at VIRGIN.NET Sun Apr 7 15:54:52 2002 From: bill.barwick at VIRGIN.NET (Bill Barwick) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 15:54:52 -0400 Subject: Prog Rock Top 10 repeat Message-ID: For anyone still yet to see it, according to my TV guide the Top Ten Prog Rock programme is being repeated again on E4 Friday 12 April at 10.00 pm and 1.30 am Saturday. Best, Bill From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sun Apr 7 15:53:56 2002 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:53:56 +0200 Subject: Hawkwind and Rush In-Reply-To: <007501c1de1b$09f32ee0$2539883e@default> Message-ID: >First things first. The new Rush CD is out in May. Check out >www.vaportrails.com. Yeah, that's an enormously good single, I just couldn't believe my ears... > >I've never had an answer to this one. On which tour did Rush support >Hawkwind? And is it true that Rush used Hawkwinds light show in the >early eighties. As far as I know they didn't use their lightshow, there was something in Sounds which said something like ...their lightshows owes a lot to Hawkwind... or ...the spirit of Hawkwind lives on... BTW Geddy said something on Hawkwind (and Kiss and Aerosmith) in Record Collector...something about x-rated backstage stories...in short, Kiss and Hawkwind were great to hang around with and Aerosmith were pains... I thiought they supported HW in '74 but John might be more informed than me.. /K ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Apr 7 16:25:35 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 16:25:35 EDT Subject: OFF: sir lurch Message-ID: In a message dated 4/7/02 4:17:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM writes: > Hey - had a listen - cool stuff - except - isn't that Motorhead? Not Kings > of Speed.... > Still - space rock on.... > from: The Finklestein shit kid, son of a bitch..... > "Up In Smoke!" Too much, Mikey.. Chuck From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Apr 7 17:50:51 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Cosmic Dolphin) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:50:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Further Items for Sale (Also Ozrics/Gong) Message-ID: More Stuff: Tales From The Atomhenge - The Robert Calvert Years CD - Virgin UK Hawkwind Remix Project CD - EBS? UK Love in Space Live 2CD EBS UK Atomhenge 76 2CD Voiceprint UK Spirit of the Age Solstice Remixes CD - 4 real UK Best of Friends and Relations/Friends and Relations The Rarities/Mighty Hawkwind Classics CD's (all 3 for 8 UK Pounds + Postage Costs) Anubian Lights - Eternal Sky CD Cleopatra USA Anubian Lights - Jackal and Nine EP CD Cleopatra USA Nik Turner - Prophets of Time CD Cleopatra USA Nik Turner - Space Ritual 1994 2CD Cleopatra USA Bob Calvert - Captain Lockheed CD/Lucky Leif CD ( both for 10UK pounds + postage) Ozric tentacles - Pungent effulgent CD Dovetail UK Ozric Tentacles - Erpland CD Dovetail UK Ozric Tentacles - Arborescense CD Dovetail UK Ozric Tentacles - Live Underslunky CD Dovetail UK Ozric Tentacles - Waterfall Cities CD Stretchy UK Ozric Tentacles - Jurassic Shift CD Dovetail UK Gong - Flying Teapot CD Gong - Angels Egg CD - Virgin UK Gong You CD Virgin UK (will do all 3 for 12UK Pounds + Postage costs) From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Sun Apr 7 23:13:52 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:13:52 -0500 Subject: HW: anyone want some tapes? Message-ID: Hi folks, I recently was involved with a tape trade with someone who has disappeared on me and so I have a big bunch of things recorded without anyone to send them to, so I'm hoping someone might want to trade with me for these tapes... You will receive 7 chrome audio tapes and 2 CDR's as follows (all Hawkwind shows). All of these are excellent shows with excellent quality, many of them soundboards... 1) 12-12-71 Kinetic Playground, Birmingham UK (audience tape) 2) 3-27-1978 San Francisco, CA (plus a bit of 11-6-1980 Chelmsford Odeon as filler) (soundboard) 3) 6-20-1981 Glastonbury Festival + Stonehenge Festival 1977 + ECTV 4-26-1985 (all soundboard) 4) 5-25-1987 Esslingen Germany (audience) 5) 10-4-1989 First Avenue, Minneapolis MN (soundboard) 6) 10-12-1989 Bacchanal, San Diego CA (soundboard) 7) 12-2-1990 The 9:30 Club, Washington DC (soundboard) 8) two CDR's containing 10-10-2001 Royal Festival Hall (audience) Does anyone have something to trade? Let me see your tape list... or maybe you have a HW single I don't have that you'd like to trade? Or some other HW collectable? I just want these tapes to find a good home! John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Apr 8 02:18:16 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 02:18:16 EDT Subject: Prog Rock Top 10 repeat Message-ID: Ahhh - cool!! My famous appearance airs again - the fans must be going weak at the knees - LoL >>>For anyone still yet to see it, according to my TV guide the Top Ten Prog Rock programme is being repeated again on E4 Friday 12 April at 10.00 pm and 1.30 am Saturday. From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 8 08:52:44 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 13:52:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Al Stewart in Glasgow Message-ID: Anyone going to this gig at the Renfrew Ferry? Dave From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Apr 8 10:10:06 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:10:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: Damo w/ Cul de Sac Message-ID: Hi Folx... Just saw these dates go by....as Eric S. pointed out, Damo will be backed by Cul de Sac guys. With Speaker\Cranker opening in Cleveland. And I thought ES said they'd be playing with Farflung in Seattle, but then I don't see any west coast dates here at all. Has something changed? Grakkl (FAA) Damo Suzuki with Cul de Sac: Robin Amos (Synthesizer) Glenn Jones (Guitars) Jon LaMaster (Bass & Violin) Jon Proudman (Drums) Jake Trussell (Various) May 19 2002 - Hoboken, NJ, Maxwell?s, USA May 18 2002 - Massachusetts Festiva,l USA May 17 2002 - Hamilton Ontario, The Raven, Canada May 16 2002 - Toronto Ontario, The Tequila Lounge, Canada May 15 2002 - Detroit, MI, Majestic, USA May 14 2002 - London Ontario, Call the Office, Canada May 13 2002 - Cleveland, OH, Grog Shop, USA May 11 2002 - Minneapolis, MN, 7th St. Entry, USA May 10 2002 - Chicago, IL, Empty Bottle, USA May 09 2002 - Memphis, TN, High Pointe, USA May 08 2002 - Atlanta, GA, Echo Lounge, USA May 06 2002 - Athens, GA, Tasty World, USA May 05 2002 - Chapel Hill, NC, Room 4, USA May 03 2002 - New York, NY, Tonic, USA May 02 2002 - Boston, MA, Middle East, USA From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Mon Apr 8 14:45:48 2002 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 14:45:48 -0400 Subject: HW/ OFF: Canterbury 2002 Message-ID: No HW it seems this year but there are a few acts appearing at the Canterbury festival 2002 which I know some listers may be interested in - Ozrics, Pretty Things to name two. Its a 3 dayer with camping at the venue this time. for details: http://www.canterburyfestival.com Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Mon Apr 8 19:43:47 2002 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 19:43:47 BST Subject: HW/OFF: Canterbury 2002 Message-ID: No HW it seems this year but there are a few acts appearing at the Canterbury festival 2002 which I know some listers may be interested in - 'Ozrics', 'Pretty Things' to name but two. Its a 3 dayer with camping at the venue this time. for details: http://www.canterburyfestival.com Mick Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Apr 8 15:17:00 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:17:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: Damo w/ Cul de Sac In-Reply-To: <0GU900K5M9S7EN@mail-mta6.service.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:10:06AM -0400 Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 10:10:06AM -0400, K Henderson wrote: > And I thought > ES said they'd be playing with Farflung in Seattle, but then I don't see any > west coast dates here at all. Has something changed? They're there. The one in question is: August 24th 2002 San Juan Island, WA Amphit Theatre, Egglake, Friday Harbor USA Brandon LaBelle (Drums) Kevin Lee (Theremin, Moog) Ryan Kirk (Guitar, Bass) Tommy Grenas (Guitar, Bass, Keyboard) Len Del Rio (Percussion) Keiichi Miyashita -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. - Anonymous From roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 8 15:45:46 2002 From: roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Roger Elmer) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:45:46 +0100 Subject: HW:Strange Lyrics Question Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:01:15 GMT From: M Holmes Subject: Re: HW: Strange lyrics question KevinSommers writes: > Here's "lyrics" question I don't expect an answer to, but which I was > pondering the other day: What is it that is being "sung" at the end (after > about five minutes) of the 'RoadHawks'/reissue-CD 'Space Ritual' version of > "You Shouldn't That" ??? >I always think I can here "I can't take control..." in there. >FoFP This must be Psi Power! Only the day before this appeared I was going to post on exactly the same thing... Some Hawklore trivia that has bugged me down the ages: - What does Dave say at the start of You Shouldn't Do That (Space Ritual encore version, Road Hawks etc)? Sounds like "Ah! .........Is Terry Ollis in here?" - Still on that track - it's a classic version which changes into Seeing It As You Really Are - what are the lyrics at the end? Nik / Bob singing? Anybody? Bernhard? Here's some (admittedly weird!) ideas, until Dave/Nik reveal the truth. "I - I Defy De-deny (de-lie?) I can't take control No - (???????) Soar through the blood red seas Complicate your (????????) Think you know what we're after D R (dignity?) We know exactly who we are Trying to fly - getting high (????????) - take it NOW (no no..........) - What are the lyrics to Stonehenge Decoded? R From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Mon Apr 8 21:04:26 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 02:04:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mr Quimby's Beard-Ozric's 26th April gig in Zoetermeer Holland Message-ID: I've just secured my tickets for the Mr Quimby's Beard-Ozric's 26th April gig in Zoetermeer Holland. Anyone else from the group going ?? If the Sunderland double header was anything to go by it should be a good one. Tony Wilson PS What's this Solarfire Lightshow like ???? From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Mon Apr 8 21:23:33 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 02:23:33 +0100 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: What's the latest on the new album ??? Does anyone know if work has started on it yet ??? I'm really looking forward to it. I personally think Moorcock's past participations really inspired them and helped bring forth some of their best albums to date, "Warrior....." being my favourite. Anyone got any inside info on how it's coming along ?? Tony Wilson From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Apr 8 21:31:03 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 21:31:03 -0400 Subject: OFF: Mr Quimby's Beard-Ozric's 26th April gig in Zoetermeer Holland Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 02:04:26 +0100, Tony Wilson wrote: >PS >What's this Solarfire Lightshow like ???? Most excellent! It's run by Jim Lascko, organizer of the Strange Daze festivals. Lots of interesting projections going on simultaneously (although the occasional gratuitous xtian imagery might be offensive to uptight atheists/pagans/muslims/orthodox iconoclasts/etc., but that's their problem) in addition to the usual "special-effect" concert lighting. And Jim has always been super-cool about running the show for other bands ... when I was on tour with Primordial Undermind a few years ago, our Cleveland show was BY FAR the best-looking show on the tour (mind-blowingly so!), entirely due to the lightshow (unfortunately, it was one of the least- attended, but that's another story). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Apr 8 21:35:42 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 21:35:42 -0400 Subject: HW:Strange Lyrics Question Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:45:46 +0100, Roger Elmer wrote: >- What are the lyrics to Stonehenge Decoded? Mike Holmes posted an incomplete set to the list about five years ago (an archive search turned them up at: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9703C&L=BOC-L&P=R7895 ) Stonehenge Decoded [incomplete] ================== Stonehenge decoded, I was there Sacrificed to this land so fair Across the windy downland hill There emanates a force of will Perimeter of barbed wire stands Encircled by the patrolling man Stonehenge decoded, I was there Sacrificed to this land so fair ???????????????? ??? ??? ?? ??? Offering blood ???? ??? ??? ?? Stonehenge decoded, I was there Sacrificed to this land so fair Sacrificed to this land so fair ... however, I have NO idea what's being said on the 'Roadhawks'/'Anthology' version of "You Shouldn't Do That"/"Seeing It As You Really Are" ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Apr 8 22:10:05 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 22:10:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: sci-fi in the Washington Post Message-ID: This week's Washington Post book review section: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/print/sunday/bookworld/ ... seems to be mostly devoted to sci-fi/fantasy. In the "on-topic" category, the article that lists several British fantasy novels/series as strong contendors for film adaptations (in the wake of last year's two blockbusters) has Elric at the top of the list. Some of the other articles ought to be of interest to the fans on boc-l, too ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From youless at LVCM.COM Tue Apr 9 02:18:00 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 02:18:00 -0400 Subject: HW: win a free Hawkwind T-Shirt Message-ID: No, it's not a scam, just a bit of shameless self-publicity. Go to my website, Starfarer's Hawkwind Page (http://www.starfarer.net) and click on the topmost link, i.e. "Name That Riff". What you will find there is 13 amateurishly played and recorded MP3 files, each one of which is a Hawkwind riff. There's also a link to my email address (sjyoules at yahoo.com for the purpose of this competition). I will send a free Hawkwind T-shirt to the first person to email me with the correct answers. (In case you couldn't guess the free T-shirt is one I will print up myself from the winner's choice of the 56 designs I have on the site.) Cheers Steve From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Apr 9 09:33:57 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 09:33:57 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: The other night I dreamed I was hanging around the studio and they were having a ball - Obviously it wasn't all fun n games - and I got to take a close up of the inside of Daves wha wha pedal - and it was a trippy peice of work- anyway - im sure this was all very insightfull - yet useless to you in your quest for a real answer - but its all I got.... ---------------------- >>>What's the latest on the new album ??? Does anyone know if work has started on it yet ??? I'm really looking forward to it. I personally think Moorcock's past participations really inspired them and helped bring forth some of their best albums to date, "Warrior....." being my favourite. Anyone got any inside info on how it's coming along ?? Tony Wilson From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 9 09:51:29 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 09:51:29 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? In-Reply-To: <169.bc91111.29e447c6@aol.com> Message-ID: On 9 Apr 2002, at 9:33, Michael W Blackman wrote: > The other night I dreamed I was hanging around the studio and they > were having a ball - Obviously it wasn't all fun n games - and I got > to take a close up of the inside of Daves wha wha pedal - and it was a > trippy peice of work- > So...wha's it look like? True bypass switching or POS stomp switch? Hand wired or circuit board? I figure an old-school dude like DB to be a Cry Baby guy, but maybe he's got something hip like a Budda? theo From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Apr 9 10:14:32 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:14:32 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: I think this one was a special delivery from some off world alien-esque music store - or perhaps custom designed by a master alien wha wha crafstman It was like nothing I had ever seen before..... If only we could download our dreams and print out a hard copy....... Still the atmosphere was cool n groovy in my dreamy HW recording session..... >>>So...wha's it look like? True bypass switching or >>>POS stomp >>>switch? Hand wired or circuit board? >>>I figure an old-school dude like DB to be a Cry Baby >>>guy, but maybe >>>he's got something hip like a Budda? From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Apr 9 10:25:58 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:25:58 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: im away from my cd's - someone tell me the name of the song that goes always always its the same thing.... down and down down we go - etc ((something like that)) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Apr 9 10:28:19 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:28:19 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: The new album will be very cool I can feel it.... Space rock is where its at - and where its gonna be It will take off in a big way all over again keep the faith From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Tue Apr 9 10:26:41 2002 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:26:41 +0100 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: Isn't it "Down Through the Night"? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > im away from my cd's - someone tell me the name of the song that goes > > always always its the same thing.... > down and down down we go - etc > > ((something like that)) From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Tue Apr 9 10:34:34 2002 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:34:34 +0100 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: Michael W Blackman wrote: > im away from my cd's - someone tell me the name of the song that goes > > always always its the same thing.... > down and down down we go - etc Paradox One of my favourites From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Tue Apr 9 10:37:57 2002 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:37:57 +0100 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: Bugger - I was wrong :-( ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barton" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:34 PM Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > Michael W Blackman wrote: > > > im away from my cd's - someone tell me the name of the song that goes > > > > always always its the same thing.... > > down and down down we go - etc > > Paradox > > One of my favourites From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Apr 9 10:47:21 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:47:21 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: >From hotmg? I'll go with that one - cheers trying to get a tshirt - hehe ----------------- > im away from my cd's - someone tell me the name of the song that goes > > always always its the same thing.... > down and down down we go - etc Paradox One of my favourites From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Apr 9 12:07:44 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 12:07:44 -0400 Subject: HW: new album ?? In-Reply-To: <00e601c1dfd4$242ca150$66b2eec3@development.bloomsbury.com>; from kevin.perry@VIRGIN.NET on Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:37:57PM +0100 Message-ID: Yeah, well. down and down down down down and down Not hard to get those two fragments confused :-) On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:37:57PM +0100, Kevin Perry wrote: > Bugger - I was wrong :-( > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Barton" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:34 PM > Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > > > > Michael W Blackman wrote: > > > > > im away from my cd's - someone tell me the name of the song that goes > > > > > > always always its the same thing.... > > > down and down down we go - etc > > > > Paradox > > > > One of my favourites -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. - Anonymous From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Tue Apr 9 10:47:01 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 09:47:01 -0500 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: Paradox. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > im away from my cd's - someone tell me the name of the song that goes > > always always its the same thing.... > down and down down we go - etc > > ((something like that)) From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Tue Apr 9 15:11:26 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:11:26 +1000 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: They were balling in the studio! Not eachother I hope. I am Australian and we dont have any bloody poofta's in this country.....alright...none apart from a million or so in Sydney and all of the clergy who are not paedophiles plus anyone that calls themself a confirmed bachelor plus God know's how many of the upper classes because it is hard to tell a fop from a poof but apart from that we have no bloody poofs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:33 PM Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > The other night I dreamed I was hanging around the studio and they were having a ball - Obviously it wasn't all fun n games - and I got to take a close up of the inside of Daves wha wha pedal - and it was a trippy peice of work- > > anyway - im sure this was all very insightfull - yet useless to you in your quest for a real answer - but its all I got.... > > > > ---------------------- > >>>What's the latest on the new album ??? > Does anyone know if work has started on it yet ??? > I'm really looking forward to it. I personally think Moorcock's past > participations really inspired them and helped bring forth some of their > best albums to date, "Warrior....." being my favourite. > Anyone got any inside info on how it's coming along ?? > > Tony Wilson > From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Tue Apr 9 15:14:25 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:14:25 +1000 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: Oi! I have a Hendrix Cry Baby Wha. Needs another new potentiometer. I hate potentiometer's. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Jackson" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:51 PM Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > On 9 Apr 2002, at 9:33, Michael W Blackman wrote: > > > The other night I dreamed I was hanging around the studio and they > > were having a ball - Obviously it wasn't all fun n games - and I got > > to take a close up of the inside of Daves wha wha pedal - and it was a > > trippy peice of work- > > > So...wha's it look like? True bypass switching or POS stomp > switch? Hand wired or circuit board? > > I figure an old-school dude like DB to be a Cry Baby guy, but maybe > he's got something hip like a Budda? > > theo > From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Tue Apr 9 15:15:15 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:15:15 +1000 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: No. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:25 AM Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > im away from my cd's - someone tell me the name of the song that goes > > always always its the same thing.... > down and down down we go - etc > > ((something like that)) > From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Tue Apr 9 15:28:10 2002 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 20:28:10 +0100 Subject: HW:Strange Lyrics Question Message-ID: Roger Wrote: > Some Hawklore trivia that has bugged me down the ages: > > - What does Dave say at the start of You Shouldn't Do That (Space Ritual encore version, Road Hawks etc)? > Sounds like "Ah! .........Is Terry Ollis in here?" I always thought he was saying 'Bob - turn the lights down' I don't know about the version on the re-issued "'Ritual" but at the end of the unedited version of this track on the '95 compliation called (wait for it) 'Silver Machine'(on Spectrum), you can hear Lemmy say 'what kind of ending was that?'. Maybe it was an unplanned jam of ending. It sounds great - wish I'd been at that gig! Mick --- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 9 15:33:54 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:33:54 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? In-Reply-To: <006301c1dffa$c3ad0a00$9e5a2dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: On 10 Apr 2002, at 5:14, Steven Skane wrote: > Oi! I have a Hendrix Cry Baby Wha. Needs another new potentiometer. I > hate potentiometer's. > Get a Morley. Doesn't use a pot, just a little light bulb that always burns out at the wrong time... tj From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Apr 9 16:04:11 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:04:11 -0400 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 09:51:29 EDT, Ted Jackson wrote: >On 9 Apr 2002, at 9:33, Michael W Blackman wrote: > >> The other night I dreamed I was hanging around the studio and they >> were having a ball - Obviously it wasn't all fun n games - and I got >> to take a close up of the inside of Daves wha wha pedal - and it was a >> trippy peice of work- >> >So...wha's it look like? True bypass switching or POS stomp >switch? Hand wired or circuit board? > >I figure an old-school dude like DB to be a Cry Baby guy, but maybe >he's got something hip like a Budda? Nope, COLOURSOUND! As used by many early-70s UK guitarists ("Bananas", by Man, has one of my alltime favorite Coloursound wah guitar solos). At first, he had a wah/fuzz ('Space Ritual' era), and later switched to a wah/fuzz/phaser (you can hear the phaser really well on the Anthology/Weird Tapes version of "Quark, Strangeness & Charm", the intro to the PXR5 version of "Uncle Sam's On Mars", and the studio version of "Flying Doctor"), which is, I believe, currently owned by a listmember. I have a '73 Coloursound wah/fuzz (in which I did recently have to replace the scratchy pot), and running through a Marshall or Mesa, it gets as close to the Brock sound as an inept guitarist (w/a single-coils guitar) such as myself can get! PCB & single-throw switch, as you'd expect in something that old. It can't be converted to true bypass easily anyway, since the wah is *always* on, and the switch just turns the fuzz on/off. In a recent on-list chat (see: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0003C&L=BOC-L&P=R8380 ), Dave mentioned that he currently uses a Boss multieffect BE-5M (Noise supressor, distortion-overdrive, chorus, delay, compressor, but no wah) for all his onstage fx needs (not surprising, since he's used Boss/Roland gear extensively since the early 80s - see the 'Church of Hawkwind' gearlist). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 9 16:22:46 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:22:46 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? In-Reply-To: <200204092004.QAA03743@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 9 Apr 2002, at 16:04, Doug Pearson wrote: >> >> The other night I dreamed I was hanging around the studio and they > >> were having a ball - Obviously it wasn't all fun n games - and I > >> got to take a close up of the inside of Daves wha wha pedal - and > >> it was a trippy peice of work- > >> > >So...wha's it look like? True bypass switching or POS stomp > >switch? Hand wired or circuit board? > > > >I figure an old-school dude like DB to be a Cry Baby guy, but maybe > >he's got something hip like a Budda? > > Nope, COLOURSOUND! As used by many early-70s UK guitarists > ("Bananas", by Man, has one of my alltime favorite Coloursound wah > guitar solos). At first, he had a wah/fuzz ('Space Ritual' era), and > later switched to a wah/fuzz/phaser (you can hear the phaser really > well on the Anthology/Weird Tapes version of "Quark, Strangeness & > Charm", the intro to the PXR5 version of "Uncle Sam's On Mars", and > the studio version of "Flying Doctor"), which is, I believe, currently > owned by a listmember. > Damn! You the man! I was aware of Coloursound's fuzz units, but I didn't know they did Wahs too. BTW, the big thing over here are reproductions of the old Coloursound units... theo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Apr 9 16:42:57 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 21:42:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock In-Reply-To: <200201310257.VAA20136@listserv.spc.edu>; from jasret@MINDSPRING.COM on Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 09:57:03PM -0500 Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 09:57:03PM -0500, Doug Pearson typed out: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 18:45:17 -0800, Allan T. Grohe, Jr. > wrote: > >I don't recall offhand if MM has ever played an instrument with HW at > >a show, but certainly some members of HW must have performed with MM > >during Deep Fix gigs (if any?). > > The Deep Fix performed at Nik Turner's Bohemian Love-In at the Roundhouse > (along with Nik's Sphynx & the Damned) with MM on guitar and Ade Shaw on > bass (in the Griffin 'Illustrated Collectors Guide' interview, Moorcock > mentions his Guild? hollowbody being crushed at the show). Not sure who > the drummer was. The personnel for that gig are listed by Brian Tawn in Hawkfan 12 as MM, Pete Pavli and Ade Shaw; I'm not sure there *was* a drummer. If there were I'd have expected someone as obsessive as Brian to have mentioned them ;-) But as for the original question, I don't know if the first Deep Fix (of _New World's Fair_ fame) ever performed live, but its drummer was Terry Ollis, wasn't it? Among others, but principally. Or such is the impression the album's liner notes give... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Tue Apr 9 19:19:48 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:19:48 +0100 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: yes - they have started work on it no I don;t know how it's coming along Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Wilson" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:23 AM Subject: HW: new album ?? > What's the latest on the new album ??? > Does anyone know if work has started on it yet ??? > I'm really looking forward to it. I personally think Moorcock's past > participations really inspired them and helped bring forth some of their > best albums to date, "Warrior....." being my favourite. > Anyone got any inside info on how it's coming along ?? > > Tony Wilson From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Apr 9 20:30:55 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 20:30:55 EDT Subject: HW:Strange Lyrics Question Message-ID: In a message dated 4/9/02 12:33:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, m.j.crook at TALK21.COM writes: > What does Dave say at the start of You Shouldn't Do That (Space Ritual encore > version, Road Hawks etc)? > > Sounds like "Ah! .........Is Terry Ollis in here?" > > I always thought he was saying 'Bob - turn the lights down' > How about: "Wot??? Very nice of you..." Chuck From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Apr 9 20:35:10 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 20:35:10 -0400 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:22:46 EDT, Ted Jackson wrote: >On 9 Apr 2002, at 16:04, Doug Pearson wrote: >> Nope, COLOURSOUND! ... >> >Damn! You the man! I was aware of Coloursound's fuzz units, but I >didn't know they did Wahs too. Tonebender, right? The Jeff Beck/Yardbirds sound ... >BTW, the big thing over here are >reproductions of the old Coloursound units... I haven't checked out any of the reissues. I *really* hope they've done the wah's correctly, since the Coloursound wah really has a unique sound that's very different from the Crybaby (and Vox, and boutique equivalents like the Budda, Teese, Fulltone RMC, etc.) or Morley -type wah sounds. Sort of more "rubbery" (for lack of a better term), with a ton of "quack". -Doug jasret at mindspring.com P.S. The second hit on a Yahoo! search for '+Coloursound +wah' turns up this page: http://www.geocities.com/sjyoules/storyofwah.html ... which is indeed Dave's old wah (a Coloursound wah/fuzz/SWELL, not a straight wah/fuzz as I posted earlier ... and presumably a Coloursound Superphaze was added later? Perhaps mr. Kniveton can correct me, if he isn't busy with the thread topic?). It also turns up another HW chat: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/text/irc_second-chat-edit.htm ... and info on the Coloursound reissues can be found here: http://www.macaris.co.uk/system/index.html (My old wah/fuzz is not really anything like the reissue) From youless at LVCM.COM Tue Apr 9 22:16:19 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:16:19 -0400 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: Thanks for the free publicity Doug :-) Yes, a list member owns it, that would be me, and that is my website with the storyofwah.html page. Which relates how it fell into my wicked clutches (as does the mIRC transcript). The joke is that I was really after his Coloursound Phazer (didn't know it was a Superphaze, thanks Doug) and I was initially disappointed to get the wah/fuzz/swell instead. I think it needs a new pot though :-( On the original topic of this thread, 3 weeks ago I was told that Hawkwind had 32 minutes' worth of the new album "in the can". Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doug Wrote: >P.S. The second hit on a Yahoo! search for '+Coloursound +wah' turns up >this page: >http://www.geocities.com/sjyoules/storyofwah.html >... which is indeed Dave's old wah (a Coloursound wah/fuzz/SWELL, not a >straight wah/fuzz as I posted earlier ... and presumably a Coloursound >Superphaze was added later? Perhaps mr. Kniveton can correct me, if he >isn't busy with the thread topic?). It also turns up another HW chat: >http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/text/irc_second-chat-edit.htm >... and info on the Coloursound reissues can be found here: >http://www.macaris.co.uk/system/index.html >(My old wah/fuzz is not really anything like the reissue) From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Tue Apr 9 23:35:55 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:35:55 +0100 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: Thanks Steve & Andy Fingers crossed that it reaches it's potential !! The current line up is full of talent. Tony Wilson > On the original topic of this thread, 3 weeks ago I was told that Hawkwind > had 32 minutes' worth of the new album "in the can". > > Steve From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Wed Apr 10 04:42:32 2002 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:42:32 -0400 Subject: When hippies ruled the world Message-ID: Any chance of HW appearing in this show?Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ThruPoint, Inc. From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Apr 10 05:42:15 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:42:15 -0400 Subject: When hippies ruled the world Message-ID: I have A Brock interview where he says they weren't into the Hippy thing. They were into Anarchy. I've heard Nik compare HW as the first Sex Pistols(Not Quite but very revolutionary). Isn't the Hippy thing more of a west coast deal? Just because someone has long hair and uses drugs doesn't make them a hippy. Never heard HW sing pretty songs about peace and love. Their music was loud and psychotic. Would Sabbath or Zeppelin be hippies too? Maybe I'm wrong but I would never picture HW as being hippies. Thats as obsurd as saying culture club or duran duran are Punk. No offence here but thats my opinion. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jobson, Eddie" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:42 AM Subject: When hippies ruled the world > Any chance of HW appearing in this show?Note: The information contained in > this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from > disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or > an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received > this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the > message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ThruPoint, Inc. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Apr 10 07:13:55 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:13:55 EDT Subject: When hippies ruled the world In-Reply-To: <003601c1e074$0011cfc0$0db43318@stepheandamy> Message-ID: On 10 Apr 2002, at 5:42, stephen lindas wrote: > I have A Brock interview where he says they weren't into the Hippy > thing. They were into Anarchy. I've heard Nik compare HW as the first > Sex Pistols(Not Quite but very revolutionary). Isn't the Hippy thing > more of a west coast deal? Just because someone has long hair and uses > drugs doesn't make them a hippy. Never heard HW sing pretty songs > about peace and love. Their music was loud and psychotic. Would > Sabbath or Zeppelin be hippies too? Absolutely no, in Sab's case. They have made it clear in many interviews that they were too angry to buy into the hippie ethos. The obsessively negative imagery in Geezer's early lyrics should be plenty of proof of that! theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Apr 10 07:23:30 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:23:30 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? In-Reply-To: <200204100035.UAA04568@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 9 Apr 2002, at 20:35, Doug Pearson wrote: > On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:22:46 EDT, Ted Jackson > wrote: >On 9 Apr 2002, at 16:04, Doug > Pearson wrote: >> Nope, COLOURSOUND! ... >> >Damn! You the man! I > was aware of Coloursound's fuzz units, but I >didn't know they did > Wahs too. > > Tonebender, right? The Jeff Beck/Yardbirds sound ... > Yep, and Pagey too. Most folks would be amazed to know that the thick, wall-of-sound on LZ's first album, that sounds so much like a Les Paul through a Marshall, was actually Page's Telecaster into a Couloursound [modified by someone, and called, of course, a Page- Tone] played through a little Supro amp [also favored by Hendrix]... > >BTW, the big thing over here are > >reproductions of the old Coloursound units... > > I haven't checked out any of the reissues. Haven't played through one, but they get great reviews on Harmony Central, for what that's worth. I just ordered a Presecription Electronics Germ, which is, admittedly, a whole other kettle of fish that I got for its clean boost capability. Review forthcoming... I *really* hope they've > done the wah's correctly, since the Coloursound wah really has a > unique sound that's very different from the Crybaby (and Vox, and > boutique equivalents like the Budda, Teese, Fulltone RMC, etc.) or > Morley -type wah sounds. Sort of more "rubbery" (for lack of a better > term), with a ton of "quack". I haven't seen any reviews of any Coloursound Wah wannabes, just the distortion units, but they seem really popular these days...I ve got a couple of Morleys and you're quite right that they sound nothing like a Coloursound, although they are great for what they do, and much more reliable than a lot of wahs... theo From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 10 08:07:49 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:07:49 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: Shaggin sheep is accepatable as long as they are female sheep and you are wearing your sundays best gumboots... >>>They were balling in the studio! Not eachother I hope. I am Australian and we dont have any bloody poofta's in this country.....alright...none apart from a million or so in Sydney and all of the clergy who are not paedophiles plus anyone that calls themself a confirmed bachelor plus God know's how many of the upper classes because it is hard to tell a fop from a poof but apart from that we have no bloody poofs. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 10 08:33:52 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:33:52 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: >>>no I don;t know how it's coming along >>>Andy G. Do you know when the aliens are coming to restore my receding hairline? Smoke me a kipper, skipper From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 10 08:35:50 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:35:50 EDT Subject: HW:Strange Lyrics Question Message-ID: one more spanner..... Bet ya its: "oi!!! who nicked me beer??!!??" > What does Dave say at the start of You Shouldn't Do That (Space Ritual encore > version, Road Hawks etc)? > > Sounds like "Ah! .........Is Terry Ollis in here?" > > I always thought he was saying 'Bob - turn the lights down' > How about: "Wot??? Very nice of you..." Chuck From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 10 08:12:14 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:12:14 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: LoL - what if I return your crotchless leather nuns habit? Will ya tell me then?? >> in a message recieved by one african and one european swallow (combined effort) Steve s wrote: >>>No. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:25 AM Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > im away from my cd's - someone tell me the name of the song that goes > > always always its the same thing.... > down and down down we go - etc > > ((something like that)) > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 10 09:07:07 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:07:07 EDT Subject: When hippies ruled the world Message-ID: Flower power hippy stuff - while it was a nice thought etc it's clear to see where the real deal is - When it wasn't trendy anymore to be a flower power hippy it died off real quick Flower power hippy is just a trendy yuppy on vacation >>>I have A Brock interview where he says they weren't into the Hippy thing. They were into Anarchy. I've heard Nik compare HW as the first Sex Pistols(Not Quite but very revolutionary). Isn't the Hippy thing more of a west coast deal? Just because someone has long hair and uses drugs doesn't make them a hippy. Never heard HW sing pretty songs about peace and love. Their music was loud and psychotic. Would Sabbath or Zeppelin be hippies too? Maybe I'm wrong but I would never picture HW as being hippies. Thats as obsurd as saying culture club or duran duran are Punk. No offence here but thats my opinion. Cheers STEPHE From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Wed Apr 10 09:22:26 2002 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:22:26 -0400 Subject: When hippies ruled the world Message-ID: But that's often one of the categories the media tried to put them into, so I am happy for them to be tagged that way by the BBC as long as I can see some of that rare footage again. I think they only scrapped into the 'When Rock Ruled the World' one because of background on Lemmy. -----Original Message----- From: Ted Jackson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 10/04/02 07:13 Subject: Re: When hippies ruled the world On 10 Apr 2002, at 5:42, stephen lindas wrote: > I have A Brock interview where he says they weren't into the Hippy > thing. They were into Anarchy. I've heard Nik compare HW as the first > Sex Pistols(Not Quite but very revolutionary). Isn't the Hippy thing > more of a west coast deal? Just because someone has long hair and uses > drugs doesn't make them a hippy. Never heard HW sing pretty songs > about peace and love. Their music was loud and psychotic. Would > Sabbath or Zeppelin be hippies too? Absolutely no, in Sab's case. They have made it clear in many interviews that they were too angry to buy into the hippie ethos. The obsessively negative imagery in Geezer's early lyrics should be plenty of proof of that! theo Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ThruPoint, Inc. From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Wed Apr 10 09:59:37 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:59:37 +1000 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: I already told you how to hide your receding heavily sloped ape like head. Grow your eyebrows very long and comb them back. If that doesn't work double your attack by doing the same to your nostril hairs but be aware that it is hard to see where you are going but who cares when you are looking so good. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:12 PM Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > LoL - what if I return your crotchless leather nuns habit? Will ya tell me then?? > > >> in a message recieved by one african and one european swallow (combined effort) Steve s wrote: > > >>>No. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:25 AM > Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > > > > im away from my cd's - someone tell me the name of the song that goes > > > > always always its the same thing.... > > down and down down we go - etc > > > > ((something like that)) > > > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 10 12:12:55 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:12:55 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: So i've been prancing about the hood with a melting ice cream cone perched on top of my head for nought..... I better write all that down...... >>>>I already told you how to hide your receding heavily sloped ape like head. Grow your eyebrows very long and comb them back. If that doesn't work double your attack by doing the same to your nostril hairs but be aware that it is hard to see where you are going but who cares when you are looking so good. From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Wed Apr 10 12:20:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:20:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Deep Fix Message-ID: No, Simon King was the drummer on the majority of the rather excellent New Worlds Fair album - certainly all the rockier stuff. There are a few samples up on my http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ if I remember correctly... Terry's studio work is good enough, but Simon's style is unmistakable, even on slower numbers. Also, for those interested, there's a bit of an email from Mike Moorcock on the Accolades page on the site. Steve Litchfield From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Apr 10 12:46:04 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:46:04 -0400 Subject: When hippies ruled the world Message-ID: Thats what I meant about Hawkwind. Sabbath was a crass example. Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Jackson" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 7:13 AM Subject: Re: When hippies ruled the world > On 10 Apr 2002, at 5:42, stephen lindas wrote: > > > I have A Brock interview where he says they weren't into the Hippy > > thing. They were into Anarchy. I've heard Nik compare HW as the first > > Sex Pistols(Not Quite but very revolutionary). Isn't the Hippy thing > > more of a west coast deal? Just because someone has long hair and uses > > drugs doesn't make them a hippy. Never heard HW sing pretty songs > > about peace and love. Their music was loud and psychotic. Would > > Sabbath or Zeppelin be hippies too? > > Absolutely no, in Sab's case. They have made it clear in many > interviews that they were too angry to buy into the hippie ethos. > The obsessively negative imagery in Geezer's early lyrics should be > plenty of proof of that! > > theo From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Wed Apr 10 13:36:38 2002 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:36:38 +0100 Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: Hello people, I want to get off this mailing list and I cant find a link to do so.. Do I just send a mail to this address requesting it or what? Can anyone help? Cheers L. xx From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Apr 10 14:12:25 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:12:25 +0100 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: It's a lot more than that now!!!!!!!!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Wilson" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:35 AM Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > > On the original topic of this thread, 3 weeks ago I was told that Hawkwind > > had 32 minutes' worth of the new album "in the can". > > > > Steve From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Wed Apr 10 08:41:09 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:41:09 +1000 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: A lot of what people think is an LP on early Zeppelin stuff is a Tele. His custom LP has some very Tele tones built into it. Some of the combinations are really horrible but then again I dont like Tele's much. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Jackson" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:23 PM Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > On 9 Apr 2002, at 20:35, Doug Pearson wrote: > > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:22:46 EDT, Ted Jackson > > wrote: >On 9 Apr 2002, at 16:04, Doug > > Pearson wrote: >> Nope, COLOURSOUND! ... >> >Damn! You the man! I > > was aware of Coloursound's fuzz units, but I >didn't know they did > > Wahs too. > > > > Tonebender, right? The Jeff Beck/Yardbirds sound ... > > > Yep, and Pagey too. Most folks would be amazed to know that the > thick, wall-of-sound on LZ's first album, that sounds so much like a > Les Paul through a Marshall, was actually Page's Telecaster into a > Couloursound [modified by someone, and called, of course, a Page- > Tone] played through a little Supro amp [also favored by Hendrix]... > > > >BTW, the big thing over here are > > >reproductions of the old Coloursound units... > > > > I haven't checked out any of the reissues. > > Haven't played through one, but they get great reviews on Harmony > Central, for what that's worth. I just ordered a Presecription > Electronics Germ, which is, admittedly, a whole other kettle of fish > that I got for its clean boost capability. Review forthcoming... > > I *really* hope they've > > done the wah's correctly, since the Coloursound wah really has a > > unique sound that's very different from the Crybaby (and Vox, and > > boutique equivalents like the Budda, Teese, Fulltone RMC, etc.) or > > Morley -type wah sounds. Sort of more "rubbery" (for lack of a better > > term), with a ton of "quack". > > I haven't seen any reviews of any Coloursound Wah wannabes, just > the distortion units, but they seem really popular these days...I > ve got a couple of Morleys and you're quite right that they sound > nothing like a Coloursound, although they are great for what they > do, and much more reliable than a lot of wahs... > > theo > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Apr 10 14:51:27 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:51:27 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? In-Reply-To: <003401c1e08c$fd9db920$9e5a2dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: On 10 Apr 2002, at 22:41, Steven Skane wrote: > A lot of what people think is an LP on early Zeppelin stuff is a > Tele. His > custom LP has some very Tele tones built into it. Right! I think the Page model that Gibson produced a while back had a coil tap which would yield somewhat Tele-like tones and also a phase reversal switch that could sound a bit like a Tele in the middle position... Some of the > combinations are really horrible but then again I dont like Tele's > much. > Speaking of gtr gear, I saw that a German company is making a wah pedal called--get this--The Silver Machine! theo From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Apr 10 17:49:38 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:49:38 -0400 Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: Layla,you got me on my knees... Layla,i'm beggin' you darlin please... please don't go sorry,tim 8>)... Layla Thompson wrote: > > Hello people, > > I want to get off this mailing list and I cant find a link to do so.. > > Do I just send a mail to this address requesting it or what? > > Can anyone help? > > Cheers > L. xx From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Apr 10 21:11:20 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 21:11:20 -0400 Subject: OFF: When hippies ruled the world Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:22:26 -0400, Jobson, Eddie wrote: >But that's often one of the categories the media tried to put them into, so >I am happy for them to be tagged that way by the BBC as long as I can see >some of that rare footage again. I think they only scrapped into the 'When >Rock Ruled the World' one because of background on Lemmy. Exactly! That's one of the great things about Hawkwind! Because they don't really fit ANY genre directly (except spacerock), their diversity allows them to be considered part of MANY genres - metal/hardrock (mostly 'cause of Lemmy), prog (probably a large part because of Simon House and Tim Blake), punk (since mr. Lydon was a big fan), and, yeah, even psychedelic/hippie rock. >-----Original Message----- >From: Ted Jackson >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Sent: 10/04/02 07:13 >Subject: Re: When hippies ruled the world > >On 10 Apr 2002, at 5:42, stephen lindas wrote: > >> I have A Brock interview where he says they weren't into the Hippy >> thing... >> Isn't the Hippy thing more of a west coast deal? Mostly (the term was allegedly coined by the great San Francisco newspaper columnist Herb Caen), but's *also* an English thing ... from the '67 UFO club to Glastonbury '71 to the battle of the beanfield '85, they've certainly been present in the UK. >> Just because someone has long hair and uses >> drugs doesn't make them a hippy. Never heard HW sing pretty songs >> about peace and love. Their music was loud and psychotic. Would >> Sabbath or Zeppelin be hippies too? > >Absolutely no, in Sab's case. They have made it clear in many >interviews that they were too angry to buy into the hippie ethos. >The obsessively negative imagery in Geezer's early lyrics should be >plenty of proof of that! (Obviously this is splitting hairs purely for the purpose of an academic discussion, but ... ) I wouldn't say that anger disqualifies one from being a hippie. The MC5 were certainly hippies (in addition to the drugs and hair: communal living [which was ironically as reactionary - with the women doing all the cooking/cleaning/etc. - as the "establishment" they were allegedly opposed to], countercultural politics [support of Black and White Panthers, performing at the '68 convention in Chicago, etc.], change- the-world AND leave-the-world lyrics, and more), but the energy/anger in their music is indisputable. Even flower children like Jefferson Airplane espoused violent revolution ("Up against the wall ... motherfucker") on their 'Volunteers' album. And Sabbath had their share of pretty songs, a signature anti-war song, and at least one song about leaving the world to start again, just like MC5, Jefferson Airplane, Hawkwind, Groundhogs, and other hippie (or not?) bands. But pay no attention to my ravings - I'm merely trying to reclaim the term (I get called it, for the hair, of course) to encompass loud, hairy, badass, aggressive rockers like Blue Cheer, Pink Fairies, Deviants, Edgar Broughton, Hawkwind, Savage Resurrection, Bent Wind, Rallizes, etc. By THAT definition, I don't mind being called one (but that definition would encompass Sabbath, too, so I could be full of it! And Led Zeppelin had their share of "hobbit rock" songs like "Ramble On" or "Battle of Evermore", too.). (shut up already, Doug!) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Apr 11 03:31:13 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 08:31:13 +0100 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: > > > Yep, and Pagey too. Most folks would be amazed to know that the > thick, wall-of-sound on LZ's first album, that sounds so much like a > Les Paul through a Marshall, was actually Page's Telecaster into a > Couloursound [modified by someone, ... Roger Mayer I'd guess. I used to speak to him a lot when I was selling advertising on The Guitar Magazine. Very nice guy, and quite happy to talk about his old work. Some amazing stuff he used to produce for the likes of Hendrix... Cheers, Rich. From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Wed Apr 10 08:35:10 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:35:10 +1000 Subject: When hippies ruled the world Message-ID: I have heard Sabbath call themselves "old hippies" twenty years ago in an interview but I think that when they formed in Birmingham they denied being hippies in anyway and said there were no hippies where they came from as California and Birmingham are totally different. Nevertheless they used to get beaten up for being hippies. Zeppelin were hippies or Plant was. Long haired rock n' rollers might be a better term for all of them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephen lindas" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 7:42 PM Subject: Re: When hippies ruled the world > I have A Brock interview where he says they weren't into the Hippy thing. > They were into Anarchy. I've heard Nik compare HW as the first Sex > Pistols(Not Quite but very revolutionary). Isn't the Hippy thing more of a > west coast deal? Just because someone has long hair and uses drugs doesn't > make them a hippy. Never heard HW sing pretty songs about peace and love. > Their music was loud and psychotic. Would Sabbath or Zeppelin be hippies > too? Maybe I'm wrong but I would never picture HW as being hippies. Thats as > obsurd as saying culture club or duran duran are Punk. No offence here but > thats my opinion. Cheers STEPHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jobson, Eddie" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:42 AM > Subject: When hippies ruled the world > > > > Any chance of HW appearing in this show?Note: The information contained > in > > this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from > > disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, > or > > an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the > intended > > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received > > this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to > the > > message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ThruPoint, Inc. > From ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO Thu Apr 11 05:17:17 2002 From: ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO (Ketil Svendsen) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:17:17 +0200 Subject: When hippies ruled the world Message-ID: John Lydon mentions his early influence by Hawkwind (even a picture of him in his "hawkwind phase". long-haired, but still pretty rotten ;) in his autobiography 'no blacks, no dogs, no irish'. quite an entertaining book, written by the same two people that wrote sonny barger's autobiography (don't people ever write them themselves?) 'hell's angel - the life and times(*sic*) of...'. ketil svendsen, norway (now listening to the complete version of pf's 'pigs on the wing') > Subject: Re: When hippies ruled the world > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:42:15 -0400 > From: stephen lindas > > I have A Brock interview where he says they weren't into the Hippy thing. > They were into Anarchy. I've heard Nik compare HW as the first Sex > Pistols(Not Quite but very revolutionary). From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Thu Apr 11 05:36:53 2002 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 21:36:53 +1200 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 10 Apr 2002 to 11 Apr 2002 (#2002-104) In-Reply-To: <200204110900.FAA09863@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >> Maybe I'm wrong but I would never picture HW as being hippies. Thats as obsurd as saying culture club or duran duran are Punk. No offence here but thats my opinion. Cheers STEPHE Remembering that Hawkwind also got into the Stonehenge thing which hippies were also part of I think qualfies Hawkwind as a hippy band which also led into tribal (not all hippies went back to the land) which Hawkwind are also masters of. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Apr 11 05:54:14 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 05:54:14 EDT Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: Shereallyhatesitwhenpeopledodat >>>Layla,you got me on my knees... Layla,i'm beggin' you darlin please... please don't go sorry,tim 8>)... Layla Thompson wrote: From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Thu Apr 11 06:13:48 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 06:13:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New Alchemical Radio shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (April 11, 2002): We've just uploaded two new shows from Alchemical Radio. See the playlists below. Alchemical radio is hosted by our friends at Stone Premonitions, the Reverend Rabbit and Terri~B. Enjoy the best space and progressive rock you've never heard as well as the wit and wisdom of the Reverend Rabbit. Modern Dance #38 is online now at: http://www.modern-dance.co.uk/. A killer online zine, Modern Dance covers a stylistic musical gamut that AI readers are sure to love. The new issue of Improvijazzation Nation is online now at: http://home.attbi.com/~rzzaj/zzaj54.htm. Check it out for great reviews, interviews, and poetry related to freaky improv music. A SWAMP ROOM HAPPENING 2002 Europe's Biggest Sixties - Psychedelic - Garage & Acidpunk Festival May 18 - 19, 2002 Bei Chez Heinz / F?ssebad ? Hannover / Germany Scheduled bands include The Legendary Pink Dots, Mandra Gora Lightshow Society, On Trial, Baby Woodrose, Pancakes, and many more. For detailed information you can visit http://www.swamp-room.de. Alchemical Radio - Part 18 Ship Of Fools - "Diesel Spaceship" Rick Ray - "Guitarent You Surprised" Redefine - "The A-Z Of Chat-Room Dating" Persephones Dream - "Apogee" Magic Potty Babies - "Hemogoblin" Quarkspace - "Spinnin" Spacehead - "Aliens/Born To Jaaam" Dave Brock - "Morpheus" Carson - "Empty Scream" Bronze - "Statue In The Stone" Nothing 2 Declare - "Frozen Child" Persephones Dream - "Full Moon" Tantalus - "City Of Dreaming Spires" Bob Bartons Old School - "A Rainbows Gold" Absolute Zero - "Suenos Sobre Un Espeio" Marlowe - "Hometime" Lucas - "Lights Out" Alchemical Radio - Part 17 Tantalus - "Moondance" B.J. Cole - "Forever Amber" Persephone's Dream - "Agent Of Chaos" Dave Brock - "Just Drifting" Absolute Zero - "Further On" Carson - "Backwards" Bob Bartons Old School - "Little Wing" Mountain Mirrors - "Invite The Drum" Quarkspace - "Drop Out From The World" B.J. Cole - "Indian Willow" Tantalus - "Wherever You Turn" Absolute Zero - "Stutter Rock" Bob Bartons Old School - "Come Together" So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. New in stock at the Aural Innovations CD mail order catalog: Conrad Schnitzler - "Conal 2001" Three tracks all in the 20 minutes range from this Tangerine Dream and Kluster veteran. Two tracks were recorded in 2001 and the third is an unreleased track from 1981. Note: This CD was released last year and is already out of print. I've only got a few copies so if you want one email me at jkranitz at aural-innovations.com. http://aural-innovations.com/mailord/mailord.html From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Apr 11 10:28:43 2002 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 15:28:43 +0100 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: One of the Les Paul Studio models has coil-tapping and at least one of the settings sounds eerily Telecaster. Another one of the tones it does is oddly Stevie Ray Vaughn, if you play it quiet through a Fender Tweed reissue, but it ends up sounding like something else again when cranked... ----- Original Message ----- > Right! I think the Page model that Gibson produced a while back > had a coil tap which would yield somewhat Tele-like tones and also > a phase reversal switch that could sound a bit like a Tele in the > middle position... From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Thu Apr 11 11:23:57 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 01:23:57 +1000 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: The LP 1960 Classic has the Page signature ceramic magnet humbucker's and it sounds like an Tel...alright I was about to tell a little lie. It sounds like a runaway freight train like all LP's and does a wonderful Zeppelin sound. Does nicely on Hawkwind and most types of music where an LP sound is a reasonable choice apart from the 'gotta have a Strat' stuff like SRV, Trower and non blues Hendrix. If you want a Zeppelin or a classic Les Paul sound it is an excellent choice and is a very elegant looking guitar. It thunders through Space Ritual songs too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Allen" To: Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:28 AM Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > One of the Les Paul Studio models has coil-tapping and at least one of the > settings sounds eerily Telecaster. Another one of the tones it does is > oddly Stevie Ray Vaughn, if you play it quiet through a Fender Tweed > reissue, but it ends up sounding like something else again when cranked... > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Right! I think the Page model that Gibson produced a while back > > had a coil tap which would yield somewhat Tele-like tones and also > > a phase reversal switch that could sound a bit like a Tele in the > > middle position... > From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Apr 11 14:31:38 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:31:38 -0400 Subject: HW: Ade Shaw's gear Message-ID: To add to the discussion of HW and others equipment, here's what Ade Shaw currently uses with The Bevis Frond, as well as Nick Saloman (Bevis Frond) and Bari Watts (Outskirts of Infinity and Frond collaborator) and Paul Simmons (The Alchemysts and currently playing with The Frond on tour) from the Frond Yahoo newsgroup: > Ade uses a Gibson EBS, a 2x10 and a 1x15 black widow, a pv mk6 amp > a zoom bfx 707 and a dan electro distortion. > Nick uses a Fender Jaguar, electric sitar and Burns Flight. He uses a 4x12 cab > and a pair of carslboro stingray amps. He uses for effects a dunlop wah, a > marshall guv'nor distortion and a zoom gfx 707. >From Bari: > My equipment is as follows; > I have a white Fender Stratocaster guitar with a maple neck. > This is the 50th anniversary Jimi Hendrix model.its a left handed > guitar strung for a right handed player. > I am actually left handed but have always played right! > I also have another white strat with a rosewood fingerboard. > I use a Boss ME5 digital effects unit..and a cry baby wah wah pedal.I > also have a vox wah wah. > I use Ernie Ball strings guages 10.13.17.26.36.46..if ive been > playing solidly for a few months i sometimes use heavier guage > sets..10 through 52. > My Amp is a Marshall JCM 900 1960 reissue 100 watt head. > A marshall JCM 900 1960 reissue 4x12 top slope cabinet. > And an original 1970 4x12 bottom cab. > With the Outskirts i have the Amp volume up full and control the > overall volume from the guitar. > Paul uses A les paul black custom, and a flying V, an Orange 4x12 cab > and amp, and for effects he uses a big muff and an Ibanez tube screamer. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Apr 11 17:28:26 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 17:28:26 -0400 Subject: HW: Ade Shaw's gear Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:31:38 -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: >To add to the discussion of HW and others equipment, here's what Ade Shaw >currently uses with The Bevis Frond... Thanks for posting this, Brian! >> Ade uses a Gibson EBS, I believe that should read "EB-3"? That's the Gibson bass with the SG body shape and short-scale neck (there was also a long-scale EB-3L). At least from photos, it looks like that's the same bass Ade was playing with Hawkwind in '77/'78. >> a 2x10 and a 1x15 black widow, a pv mk6 amp >> a zoom bfx 707 and a dan electro distortion. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Apr 11 18:22:40 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 18:22:40 -0400 Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: That's why i never named my daughter Layla,though i love the name... tim Michael W Blackman wrote: > > Shereallyhatesitwhenpeopledodat > > >>>Layla,you got me on my knees... > Layla,i'm beggin' you darlin please... > please don't go > sorry,tim 8>)... > Layla Thompson wrote: From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Thu Apr 11 19:41:11 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:41:11 +0000 Subject: OFF: help save the rainforest Message-ID: Hi all, This seems worthy of being circularised. Hope you agree The Brazilian congress is now voting on a project that will reduce the Amazon forest to 50% of its size. It will take 1 MINUTE to read this, but PLEASE put your names on the list and send this on. The area to be deforested is 4 times the size of Portugal and would be mainly used for agriculture and pastures for livestock. All the wood is to be sold to international markets in the form of wood chips, by large multinational companies. The truth is that the soil in the Amazon forest is useless without the forest itself. Its quality is very acidic and the region is prone to constant floods. At this time more than 160,000 square kilometres deforested with the same purpose are abandoned and in the process of becoming deserts. Deforestation and the subsequent processing of the woodchips on this scale will also release huge amounts of carbon, which is currently locked up in the wood, back into the atmosphere worsening the problem of climate change. We just cannot let this happen. Please copy the text into a 'new email', put your complete name in the list below and send to everyone you know. DON'T JUST FORWARD IT THOUGH AS IT WILL THEN END UP WITH ROWS AND ROWS of >'s. If you are the 500th person to sign please send a copy to: fsaviolo at openlink.com.br Thank you for your help 01 - Fernanda de Souza Saviolo - Rio de Janeiro - RJ 02 - Nara Maria de Souza - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - 03 - Julio Cesar Fraga Viana - Rio de Janeiro - RJ- 04 - Monica Grotkowsky Brotto -Sao Paulo - SP - 05 - Mauricio Grotkowsky Brotto - Sao Paulo - 06 - Ricardo A.Corrallo - SP 07 - Sunny Jonath! an - SP 08 - Leonardo Larsen Rocha - SP 09 - Evandro Sestrem - 10 - Marco Aurlio Wehrmeister - Blumenau - SP 11 - Angela Maria Gonalves - Blumenau -SP 12 - Alessandra Bernardino- Blumenau - SP 13 - Pedro Carstens Penfold - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - 14 - Annelena Porto Delgado - S*o Paulo - 15 - Erica Couto -S*o Paulo - 16 - Elaine Couto- S*o Paulo - SP 17 - Tatiana de Almeida Voivodic - S*o Paulo 18 - Solange B Furlanetto - S*o Paulo / SP 19 - Marcos deSouza Mello - S*o Paulo / SP 20 - Eliane Santiago - S*o Paulo/ SP 21 - Francisca J. 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E. Reimchen, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada 436 Philip Clement, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada 437 Scott Garvin, Calgary, Alberta, Canada 438 Amy Gibson, Calgary, Alberta, Canada 439 Lisa Hebden, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada 440 Tara Macdonald, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 441 Heidi Krajewsky, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada 442 Stephen Anstee, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada 443 Ashley Wiseman, Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, Canada 444 Nancy Ruth Moorby, Mazatlan, Sinaloa, Mexico 445 Sean Reade, Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada 446 Leslie Tollington, Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada 447 Steve Tollington, Brampton, Ontario, Canada 448 Dale Stroud 449 Andrew Kuepfer, Kitchener, Ontario, Canada 450 Heather J. Walker, Ontario, Canada 451 Erik Luscombe Brantford, Ont, Canada 452 Gary Swift. Surrey, UK 453 G Farrell, Surrey UK 454 Tina Roberts, London, UK 455 Marion Gibbon, London, UK 456 Hugh Gibbon, Peoplefirst, London, UK 457 Clare Shakya, Dhaka, Bangladesh 458 Gaia Allison, Kathmandu, Nepal 459 Rachel Roland, Walsall, UK 460 Omar Sattaur, Buxton, Derbyshire, UK 461 Bill Child, Oxford, UK4 462 Bridget Anderson, Oxford UK 463 Jane Khin Zaw, London, UK 464 Mike Anderson, London, UK 465 Sara Burns, London UK 466 Huei Flowers, London, UK 467 Ajit Patel, London, UK 468 Ajay Patel, London, UK 469 Arvindray Patel, London, UK 470 Vanita Patel, London, UK 471 Steve Lee, London, UK 472 Angel Lee, London, UK 473 Sue Lloyd-Roberts, London, UK 474 Ronnie Weeks, London, UK 475 Simon Weeks, London, UK 476 Olivia Weeks, London, UK 477 Edmund Weeks, London, UK 478 Rosemary Plumbe, London, UK 479 Brian Coles 480 Stuart Forster 481 Charlie Bayliss, London UK 482 Lara Marshall, London UK 483 Oz Brenner, London UK 484 Amy Smith, London Uk 485 Lindsey Springer UK 486 Colin N Wills, Denbury, England 487 Andreas Syrimis, London, UK 488 Lloyd Gee, London, UK 489 Jo Toll, Norfolk, UK 490 Lise Hudig, Norfolk, UK 491 Andy Hemingway, Norfolk, UK 492 Chris Gibbs, Varteg, Cymru From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Apr 11 20:17:34 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:17:34 -0400 Subject: OFF: help save the rainforest Message-ID: Have I ever mentioned that http://www.snopes2.com/ is one of the coolest websites on the entire Internet? http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/petition/brazil.htm -Doug jasret at mindspring.com On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:41:11 +0000, Chris Gibbs wrote: >Hi all, > > This seems worthy of being circularised. Hope you agree > The Brazilian congress is now voting on a project that will reduce the > Amazon forest to 50% of its size. > ... > If you are the 500th person to sign please send a copy to: > fsaviolo at openlink.com.br P.S. And the 'fsaviolo' address has been dead for years. From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Thu Apr 11 22:17:28 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 21:17:28 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: OFF: help save the rainforest Message-ID: I'm glad they're getting rid of that forest, it lends to global warming and gun ownership. I say good riddance, let Paul Bunyon at it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:17 PM Subject: Re: OFF: help save the rainforest From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 12 02:07:29 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 02:07:29 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 4/6/02 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. E-MAIL me at the Station during my program for the famous "comments, questions and recommendations" at the same e-mail as above: or give a call at: 909-787-KUCR thanks, Chuck NOTE: Back to a 2-hour set starting this week... (good or bad???) 4/6/02 1.Sound-- "Picky Panic" (Drunk on Confusion; Tekito) 2.Chrome-- "All Data Lost" (Alien Soundtracks; Touch and Go) 3.Scattered Planets-- "Hal's Lament" (Drinking w/Aliens) 4.Lightning Bolt-- "Fleeing the Valley of Whirling Knives" (ST'd; Load) 5.Guild Navigators-- "The Cryogenic" (pre-release demo...thanks to FreakSpacely!) 6.Cluster-- "Live in der Fabrik" (II; Spalax) 7.The Brain-- "Light Years" (Access and Amplify; Hypnotic/Cleopatra) 8.La Dusseldorf-- "Rheinita" (Viva; Viva) 9.Salaryman-- "Rather" (ST'd; 12 Inch) 10.Thumbtack Smoothie-- "Rooftop Dreamrunning" (Electrickitchentableland; Manic Obsessive) 11.Zen-- "Lady in Red" (Turn Century Turn comp; Mother West) 12.Escapade-- "Under an Intrusive Glare" (Turn Century Turn) 13.Kombinat M-- "Heyday" (Hybrid Beat; Cuneiform) 14.Magma-- "Lirik Necronomicus Kahnt" (Attahk; Decal/Charly/Tomato) 15.H.P. Lovecraft-- "White Ship" (Live; Sundazed/Tutman) 16.Cauldron-- "The Cathedral" (The Sancuary Suite; Wild Places) 17.Hawkwind-- "Be Yourself" (ST'd; EMI) 18.Ebeling Hughes-- "Transfigured/Butterfly/Jump on the Sun" (Transfigured Night; Zero Hour) 19.Pink Floyd-- "Fearless" (Meddle; Harvest/EMI) 20.Frank Zappa-- "Crusin' for Burgers" (In New York CD; Barking Pumpkin) 21.Alien Sex Fiend-- "She's a Killer" (Acid Bath; Anagram) 22.Hawkwind-- "Virgin of the World" (Sonic Attack; EBS) 23.Census of Hallucinations-- "Opening the Trapdoor to Outerspace" (Sixth Sense; Stone Premontions) 24.Future Sound of London-- "Slider/Smokin' Japanese Babe" (ISDN; Virgin/EBV) 25.Salamander-- "The Critical Hour/Red Ampersand/Danger on Rural Highway" (Red Ampersand; Camera Obscura) thanks, Chuck From mlawrenc at AU1.IBM.COM Fri Apr 12 02:06:41 2002 From: mlawrenc at AU1.IBM.COM (Marty Lawrence) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:06:41 +1000 Subject: HW: Strange lyrics question Message-ID: Hi I've often wondered what is said in the intro to Psychedelic Warlords, it's just before the lyrics kick in and sounds like "how bout that" and lemmy's voice. regards Marty From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Apr 12 03:08:24 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 03:08:24 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: And in Adelaide South Australia (don't know about the rest of the world) you could almost buy a small new car for the price of one - I know which one I would choose. I don't much like cars..... ------------------------ >>>The LP 1960 Classic has the Page signature ceramic magnet humbucker's and it sounds like an Tel...alright I was about to tell a little lie. It sounds like a runaway freight train like all LP's and does a wonderful Zeppelin sound. Does nicely on Hawkwind and most types of music where an LP sound is a reasonable choice apart from the 'gotta have a Strat' stuff like SRV, Trower and non blues Hendrix. If you want a Zeppelin or a classic Les Paul sound it is an excellent choice and is a very elegant looking guitar. It thunders through Space Ritual songs too. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Apr 12 03:32:00 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 03:32:00 EDT Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: Same here.... The name & the person (except the part about the daughter-don't have a daughter.) >>>That's why i never named my daughter Layla,though i love the name... tim From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Fri Apr 12 04:18:17 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 18:18:17 +1000 Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: I had that choice. I bought the LP Classic goldtop. We are married. The only cars I like cost the same as a house. The rest are appliances. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:08 PM Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > And in Adelaide South Australia (don't know about the rest of the world) you could almost buy a small new car for the price of one - I know which one I would choose. > I don't much like cars..... > > ------------------------ > >>>The LP 1960 Classic has the Page signature ceramic magnet humbucker's and it > sounds like an Tel...alright I was about to tell a little lie. It sounds > like a runaway freight train like all LP's and does a wonderful Zeppelin > sound. Does nicely on Hawkwind and most types of music where an LP sound is > a reasonable choice apart from the 'gotta have a Strat' stuff like SRV, > Trower and non blues Hendrix. If you want a Zeppelin or a classic Les Paul > sound it is an excellent choice and is a very elegant looking guitar. It > thunders through Space Ritual songs too. > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Apr 12 05:48:40 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 05:48:40 -0400 Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: I hate that name because I hate Derek and the Dominoes. No offense Layla!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:32 AM Subject: Re: OFF- literally > Same here.... > The name & the person (except the part about the daughter-don't have a daughter.) > > >>>That's why i never named my daughter Layla,though i love the name... > tim From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Apr 12 06:05:36 2002 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:05:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Tab for The Right Stuff needed Message-ID: Hi you guitar genius's out there... being a drummer I'm a very bad strummer, can anyone send me the guitar Tab to "the right Stuff", I've mastered Ejection ( without rejection), and although some of the notes are the same, there are others that are not ( or not available on my guitar). Please could you help out a ham fisted tub thumper and send me the chords ?. Many thanks iain From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Fri Apr 12 06:13:14 2002 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:13:14 +0100 Subject: HW: Tab for The Right Stuff needed Message-ID: >From memory, it's repeat A-G repeat D-C ----- Original Message ----- From: "iain ferguson" To: Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: HW: Tab for The Right Stuff needed > Hi you guitar genius's out there... > > being a drummer I'm a very bad strummer, can anyone send me the guitar > Tab to "the right Stuff", I've mastered Ejection ( without rejection), > and although some of the notes are the same, there are others that are > not ( or not available on my guitar). > > Please could you help out a ham fisted tub thumper and send me the > chords ?. > > Many thanks > > iain From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Apr 12 07:29:52 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:29:52 EDT Subject: HW: new album ?? Message-ID: I've seen some beautiful - truly beautiful gold tops down at the local Gibson dealer - I've eaten a few as well (but thats a whole other topic) One day I will walk into the store and do what ole wayne did when he purchased his blonde stratocaster whip out some cash - I'll probably have to whip a few bundles of cash out for a gibson - but it'll be fun nonetheless >>>I had that choice. I bought the LP Classic goldtop. We are married. The only cars I like cost the same as a house. The rest are appliances. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Apr 12 07:32:10 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:32:10 EDT Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: Thats the only song of theirs I do like >>>>I hate that name because I hate Derek and the Dominoes. No offense Layla!!!! From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Apr 12 09:32:40 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:32:40 -0400 Subject: HW: Ade Shaw's gear In-Reply-To: <200204112128.RAA11367@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:31:38 -0400, Brian Halligan > wrote: >> To add to the discussion of HW and others equipment, here's what Ade Shaw >> currently uses with The Bevis Frond... > > Thanks for posting this, Brian! You're welcome Doug! > >>> Ade uses a Gibson EBS, > > I believe that should read "EB-3"? That must be it. In the original message their keystroke came out as a vaguely S-looking symbol for some reason. Brian OBweather> Sunny and 76 degrees (24 C) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Apr 12 13:19:13 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:19:13 -0400 Subject: OFF- literally In-Reply-To: <004c01c1e207$3a17a0c0$0db43318@stepheandamy>; from lindas1@ADELPHIA.NET on Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:48:40AM -0400 Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:48:40AM -0400, stephen lindas wrote: > I hate that name because I hate Derek and the Dominoes. No offense Layla!!!! Good song, but *way* overplayed. The acoustic version he has out now's kind of cool, at least as a change. First time I ever paid any attention to the words :-) Bye, L, if you haven't gone yet. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. - Anonymous From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Apr 12 13:41:40 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:41:40 EDT Subject: belated happy birthday Message-ID: HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY WISHES TO MISS LAYLA :-) Hope you had a wonderful day @}-- Michael From imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK Fri Apr 12 16:02:04 2002 From: imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK (Jason Gool) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 21:02:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Codex In-Reply-To: <004c01c1e207$3a17a0c0$0db43318@stepheandamy> Message-ID: Can anyone point me to a link where I can find the latest copy of the codex? I had a link to Sonique's page but that doesn't work any more. Any help would be much appreciated. Jas. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Apr 12 16:33:18 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:33:18 -0400 Subject: HW: Codex Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 21:02:04 +0100, Jason Gool wrote: >Can anyone point me to a link where I can find the latest copy >of the codex? I had a link to Sonique's page but that doesn't work >any more. It can be found in the boc-l archives at: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0102D&L=BOC-L&P=R1418&m=48071 Unfortunately, that version covers releases through around 1999, so it's incomplete. I made a few additions based on the Voiceprint Weird 101-105 releases and a few others, that can be found here: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0011D&L=BOC-L&P=R39&m=44019 Plus additional trivia on the Weird 101-105 versions: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0011D&L=BOC-L&P=R247&m=44019 >Any help would be much appreciated. Hope this is a step in the right direction ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Apr 13 12:17:01 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 17:17:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: Van Der Graaf Message-ID: Check out this months issue of Mojo for a large article on VDGG. Truely wonderful. Dave From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Apr 13 14:35:50 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Biggest Dick) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 12:35:50 -0600 Subject: OFF: Motorhead/'Hammered' fan review In-Reply-To: <6a.1cd72ffb.29c66962@aol.com> Message-ID: I'm back (hear Lemmy style evil laugh)....(the dope ran out and mommy totalled out our van and the credit cards are permanently dead and speed doesn't kill...unless you have pre-existing medical problems .....damn) went to MH show,,,,,,drank constantly throughout...... had blast.........new album best since Orgasmatron in this ones OPINION..... yelled obsenities and flipped bird at band for rolling into Dallas, and playing NONE of the new tunes ......or was I that drunk?....oh well......I blamed Dave Brock for Lemmy's knocking over the microphone stand accidentally, and good thing my voice is completely fried from yelling "GET HELP" at my mom over and over for days in a row...he did do a weird double-take, so maybe he heard it....shucks.....it was all in fun Lemmy, we know the Osbournes love you and so do we,,,(somebody at the show said I look like Ozzy's brother) (and yes I know nothing can save me now) (right?),,so this apology is official, however incorrrectly planted since your Yahoo (MH) group list is too HTML sensitive and SHUT YOUR MOUTH seems to apply there, for me............. I hope Dave hasn't mentally kicked me out........(it's the ONLY HOPE) hope all is well with ALL, and how about some exciting news for a guy who has to learn that he can't handle anything, especially speed, for the third or fourth time in life...is this life? I want more....life yours, GRINCH ******************************************************************************* BOB MAYO SAID: <<>> From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Apr 13 14:53:35 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (NOMAD ERROR!) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 12:53:35 -0600 Subject: atom gods In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020319123131.00a362c0@pop.tiscalinet.be> Message-ID: >Could anyone tell me more about a band calles Atom Gods ? They released an >LP on GWR in '88 and i firmly believ ther must be some HW connection! >Cheers, >jean The "WOW" LP includes Nik guesting, with some FANTASTIC FLUTE.......can we get that CD please?..... the "WOW" LP is to kill for...... Trev writes the songs that make the young girls cry..... From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sat Apr 13 17:06:21 2002 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 22:06:21 +0100 Subject: HLL this Thursday Message-ID: I don't think it's been mentioned here, but Huw is playing up at the Walthamstow Standard this Thursday (18th April). He has support from an original London spacerock band (no idea what they're like to listen to, but they seem nice people to chat to!). Closest station is Blackhorse Road, support on about 9pm, about a fiver to get in. --- Kevin Perry The Mountain Grill http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Apr 13 20:15:16 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (PTOOF! PHEW!) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 18:15:16 -0600 Subject: OFF: Motorhead/'Hammered' fan review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A TINY MORE DRIBBLE ... I put the CD in expecting to be assaulted by light speed pounding attack, but this one seemed to be more "earthy" and with neat guitar treatments that make it appeal to me....as well as the very "fun" lyrical content as Bob M attested.... I rate it "drink more beer and it'll work fine, just fine" and wow that Serial Killer does the job leading into THE GAME........NO COPS AT MY DOOR SINCE THE OBVIOUSLY SUPERNATURAL BEATING THAT STORM COOKED UP LAST TIME I DID "THE BUSINESS" ON THE BLOCK.(AS THE RESPECTABLE AUTHORITES PULLED AWAY) ..(OVERKILL NOT A COMMON PRACTICE NOW AS I AM OLD AND FLATULANT, AND DON'T FEEL I GOT THE RIGHT, BUT NICE TO SEE THEY REMEMBER IT, SINCE I TESTED THE WATERS ARRIVING HOME FROM THE MH SHOW AND DRINKING CAN'T STOP WHEN A CONCERT DOES) my heart lies with ON PAROLE and the "vibe".... LIKE THE NEW ONE PRETTY SURE..... M NO STAR NATION MAIL ON MY SERVER THIS IS BAD FIGURES ROTTING HARDER AND FASTER NOW...... CURIOUS!!! HAS ANYONE EVER HAD LEMMY GIVE THEM AN AUTOGRAPH WHEN THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR ONE???? THE FACT THAT HE GAVE ONE TO MY NOW CONVERTED CATHOLIC FRIEND CHRIS IN THAT MANNER MANY MOONS AGO ISN'T HELPING MY ARGUMENT THAT LEMMY ISN'T DOWN ON GOD OR NATIVITY SCENES,,,,,JUST SNITCHES AND BS IN GENERAL...... I TOLD HIM IT MAY HAVE BEEN A "GOOD JESTURE".."WELL INTENDED" BUT HE WON'T BUY IT.... SORRY FOR YELLING (BILL), AND BEN C, SHE'S WITH YOU....... "I GOT GARBAGE" (PROBABLY STUCK IN MY TOOTH.) , UNTIL PROBALY TOO SOON _ "GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Apr 14 11:17:49 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:17:49 +0100 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?UmU6ICAgICAgSFc6IEVNSSBqZXdlbC1jYXNlIHJlbWFzdGVycw==?= In-Reply-To: <200202061249.MAA05919@finchleycentral.genie.syncordia.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Mark Von Bargen wrote: > Any idea which shop? > ?6.99 for Space Ritual sounds like a great deal for somebody like me who hasn't got it on CD yet - couldn't afford the digi-pack issue at the time. Sorry to take so long coming back on this; a shop in Brighton called I think Rebel Records. Something-beginning-with-an-R Records anyway. This probably isn't much help but it's the best I can remember. Unless you're in Brighton this probably won't save you much money, especially if they don't have it any more... But for what use it is, there it is, yours, Jon ObCD: The Stalk Forrest Group - _St Cecilia_ -- "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK Sun Apr 14 13:17:51 2002 From: imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK (Jason Gool) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:17:51 +0100 Subject: HW: EMI jewel-case remasters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Probably Rounder Records. > On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Mark Von Bargen wrote: > > > Any idea which shop? > > ?6.99 for Space Ritual sounds like a great deal for somebody like me who hasn't got it on CD yet - > > couldn't afford the digi-pack issue at the time. > > Sorry to take so long coming back on this; a shop in Brighton > called I think Rebel Records. Something-beginning-with-an-R Records > anyway. This probably isn't much help but it's the best I can > remember. Unless you're in Brighton this probably won't save you much > money, especially if they don't have it any more... But for what use it > is, there it is, yours, > Jon From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Sun Apr 14 15:51:56 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:51:56 +0100 Subject: HW: EMI jewel-case remasters Message-ID: Jon Jarrett wrote > Sorry to take so long coming back on this; a shop in Brighton called I think Rebel Records. Something-beginning-with-an-R Records anyway. This probably isn't much help but it's the best I can remember. Unless you're in Brighton this probably won't save you much money, especially if they don't have it any more... But for what use it is, there it is, yours, > Jon > No problem Jon, I went out and bought it for ?7.99 as an impulse buy a few weeks ago. I had been meaning for ages to get Toxicity album by System of A Down and saw that at a good price so got the two of them together. Gotta say also that the System of A Down cd is absolutely excellent if you like intelli-metal (no, i didn't want to invent a new metal genre). It is not kiddie or nu-metal in any way - its a very dark album lyric wise. Anyway, thanks for the info and dont worry about the delay as Brighton is a fair old trek from Liverpool. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Apr 14 15:52:50 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:52:50 +0100 Subject: NIK: ICU Xmas Party In-Reply-To: <200202071256.HAA19547@listserv.spc.edu>; from dave@CRAZY-DAVE.NET on Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 07:56:34AM -0500 Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 07:56:34AM -0500, Dave Briggs typed out: > On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 12:08:41 +0000, Jonathan Jarrett > wrote: > > >Having only heard `Skinheads' the once before I thought I > >could recognise it but I was obviously wrong. What? Haven't I got _The > >Maximum Effect_ yet? Well, no, but peace, it will happen music has to be > >budgeted for even on fat-cat state Ph.D. funding. As for Kylie's song, > > Hi John, If you go to Steve's ICU Site at > http://208.50.7.128/icu/ you can download the VERY EXCELENT Maximum Effect > in MP3 format. It's by far the best album. > > So now you got no excuses for not knowing all the words to Skinheads in > Lenningrad :-) You missed the last argument I sarted about how lousy my computer is and how I can't be bothered spending on upgrades rather than CDs, didn't you :-) I'll just get the CDR soon, MP3 capability is a way off yet. Thanks anyway, yours, Jon ObCD: Bedouin - _As Above So Below_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From youless at LVCM.COM Sun Apr 14 17:22:47 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:22:47 -0400 Subject: HW: win a free Hawkwind T-Shirt Message-ID: Competition has been won by Wayne Rodwell Steve From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Apr 14 19:22:25 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:22:25 -0400 Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: Stephen,how could you possibly hate D&tD,one of the greatest drug addled bands of the 70s(maybe you had to be there!) tim stephen lindas wrote: > > I hate that name because I hate Derek and the Dominoes. No offense Layla!!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:32 AM > Subject: Re: OFF- literally > > > > Same here.... > > The name & the person (except the part about the daughter-don't have a > daughter.) > > > > >>>That's why i never named my daughter Layla,though i love the name... > > tim From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Apr 14 19:38:13 2002 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:38:13 EDT Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: Tim, I'll give you two clues: Eric Clapton. Nothing more needs to be said on the subject. Bob (a big fan of drug addled bands of the 60's & 70's) In a message dated 4/14/2002 7:31:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: > Stephen,how could you possibly hate D&tD,one of the greatest drug addled > bands of the 70s(maybe you had to be there!) > tim > stephen lindas wrote: > > > > I hate that name because I hate Derek and the Dominoes. No offense > Layla!!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Sun Apr 14 20:27:49 2002 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:27:49 +1200 Subject: Cranium Music Sale In-Reply-To: <200204130900.FAA17046@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: I'm having a 6% off all titles (except Cranium label releases) at present. Also Album Of The Month is Sh'mantra .. Formula Orange. There are 3 sound samples on line to hear. Just click on the cover on the front page when you get to the link below. Check this band out as they are very innovative. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Apr 15 00:50:01 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 00:50:01 EDT Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: You hate eric clapton?? ------------------------ I'll give you two clues: Eric Clapton. Nothing more needs to be said on the subject. Bob (a big fan of drug addled bands of the 60's & 70's) In a message dated 4/14/2002 7:31:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: > Stephen,how could you possibly hate D&tD,one of the greatest drug addled > bands of the 70s(maybe you had to be there!) > tim From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Apr 15 05:30:37 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 05:30:37 -0400 Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: WELL, I like Cream very much and The Blues Breakers. Some of his Solo stuff is ok. Just don't like D+tD. I was there too, but don't see why that would make me like them. Grateful Dead were a druggy band and I don't really like them much either. That kind of music just isn't my thing. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:50 AM Subject: Re: OFF- literally > You hate eric clapton?? > > ------------------------ > I'll give you two clues: Eric Clapton. > Nothing more needs to be said on the subject. > Bob (a big fan of drug addled bands of the 60's & 70's) > > In a message dated 4/14/2002 7:31:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: > > Stephen,how could you possibly hate D&tD,one of the greatest drug addled > > bands of the 70s(maybe you had to be there!) > > tim From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Mon Apr 15 08:29:34 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 22:29:34 +1000 Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: He virtually disowns Cream. Say's he was on drugs and it is rubbish. Insists the live Crossroads is crap. Yeah right Eric. Cream is by far the best music he ever did. Claptons best in the last 30 years was the unplugged album. Nearly everything else is mediocre and I am being charitable about it. His latest stuff is laughable. For a short period there he did some wonderful stuff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephen lindas" To: Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 7:30 PM Subject: Re: OFF- literally > WELL, I like Cream very much and The Blues Breakers. Some of his Solo stuff > is ok. Just don't like D+tD. I was there too, but don't see why that would > make me like them. Grateful Dead were a druggy band and I don't really like > them much either. That kind of music just isn't my thing. Cheers STEPHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:50 AM > Subject: Re: OFF- literally > > > > You hate eric clapton?? > > > > ------------------------ > > I'll give you two clues: Eric Clapton. > > Nothing more needs to be said on the subject. > > Bob (a big fan of drug addled bands of the 60's & 70's) > > > > In a message dated 4/14/2002 7:31:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: > > > Stephen,how could you possibly hate D&tD,one of the greatest drug addled > > > bands of the 70s(maybe you had to be there!) > > > tim > From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Apr 15 12:10:44 2002 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:10:44 EDT Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: I don't know the man, so I won't say hate. I'm sure he's a nice person. I do like some Cream tracks, but can't stand his music otherwise. Bob In a message dated 4/15/2002 12:51:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM writes: > You hate eric clapton?? > > From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Apr 15 17:43:18 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:43:18 -0400 Subject: OFF- literally (e.c....god or goddamned??) Message-ID: Unpluuged,yech!! i'f he'd released Layla in the unplugged version first,it never would have become the classic it is... tim Steven Skane wrote: > > He virtually disowns Cream. Say's he was on drugs and it is rubbish. Insists > the live Crossroads is crap. Yeah right Eric. Cream is by far the best > music he ever did. Claptons best in the last 30 years was the unplugged > album. Nearly everything else is mediocre and I am being charitable about > it. His latest stuff is laughable. For a short period there he did some > wonderful stuff. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "stephen lindas" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: OFF- literally > > > > WELL, I like Cream very much and The Blues Breakers. Some of his Solo > stuff > > is ok. Just don't like D+tD. I was there too, but don't see why that would > > make me like them. Grateful Dead were a druggy band and I don't really > like > > them much either. That kind of music just isn't my thing. Cheers STEPHE > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael W Blackman" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:50 AM > > Subject: Re: OFF- literally > > > > > > > You hate eric clapton?? > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > I'll give you two clues: Eric Clapton. > > > Nothing more needs to be said on the subject. > > > Bob (a big fan of drug addled bands of the 60's & 70's) > > > > > > In a message dated 4/14/2002 7:31:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: > > > > Stephen,how could you possibly hate D&tD,one of the greatest drug > addled > > > > bands of the 70s(maybe you had to be there!) > > > > tim > > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 15 19:23:12 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:23:12 -0600 Subject: OFF- literally-and now MAJORLY offitized (ANDY G) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >I don't know the man, so I won't say hate. I'm sure he's a nice person. >I do like some Cream tracks, but can't stand his music otherwise. >Bob Pressed Rat and Warthog could use a single wasn't enough to get me to shell out for the LP and now, more gabba gabba- I come here now to do the usual....show up so a lot of people know I'm alive and intend to try to walk on 2 feet more than across the kitchen floor (like to the post maybe?) - not really because I think anything I say enriches anyones life in the least I feel I am not entitled to go away just yet and I (of course) don't want to anyway....even the biggest di*k's still crave HW excitement by nature..can't be helped it's gotten so bad now I have taken to listening to bands like Sabbath (or Green Day)(man I got bored that last time)(when I can muster the ability to even listen to anything and get any pleasure from entertainment at all) as I don't feel "spiritually allowed" to enjoy my favorite bands anymore (HW, ICU, MOTORHEAD) HELLO DOUG P BOB- I DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT SAMPLER......what has "God" allowed Satan to do to me.(but this question is not to Bob)....."Oh Please, Please God Help Me" "just keeps walking" 'those were the days, yes they were' (isn't that some sort of Cream memory?) bye now I have said my piece properly and "I leave it all up to you(s)" ps- I got a negative report on someone recently...god I love that stuff as misery loves other pathetics mike coleman oh and Andy (G)-- I have only bought mass produced CD's in the shops around the corner ....I haven't even gone to RPM to get my pile of stuff that has been there for a year it seems and I hope Brock isn't too pissed off as there is one in that batch for him I got a debit card and I guess I better pay you all fees owed and please don't rob me on the late apology fee as I may want to try to OD on speed just one last time From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 15 20:50:32 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Dr. Cowpatty) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:50:32 -0600 Subject: OFF- literally-D+tD-Cream-acid-colorful bike rides-TinaT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: lets get real though (regarding anything Eric Clapton is or was) in the past- before the MTV appearances, haircuts, and loss of fuzzy clothing and (loss of) sons that provided hits, (and railroad track photo-shoots, leather jackets, pony-tails and beer bottles) ,,there came a band that drew perfect cupola crafts into their album sleeve art, and made dreams the stuff of reality.....(god it must be another band that thinks to themselves about HW:- "it's not fair!, it's just not fair!".(assuming there are bands that have had this thought, like a friend of mine did).-though I guess they were successful enough to pretend not to be bothered, etc.... Ginger's Italian escapades aside, (did he REALLY go there and play as Hawkwind? too funny if so) people that know drums say he plays well, don't they?.....and some of those tunes showed what the aliens were trying to do when they dabbled in Hoffman's reality back in the Swiss lab on that fateful night/day.....(and Jack had some good vocal chords or Trower wouldn't have used him) (and at this point I am imagining people thinking "dude it wasn't a Cream thread, put the bong down" I'm not old enough to have been "there" for D+tD, and I don't really know any others by them, but will now intend to listen to some of it as I think for myself and Tim approved it (maybe I was old enough for D+tD, since it was after forever, dunno, wasn't paying attention, Layla got crammed down my throat so I rather hate it, but only because of that aspect) AM I GOING INSANE?(RADIO) and the point is? nit-picking over a god again....even if corrupted and given over to flatulance Phew! dc (who likes the Nirvana unplugged the best but CRINGES just thinking of the word unplugged) maybe it reminds me of what I sound like on guitar without the gadgets is Doug's Rickenbacker in yet? the one with the swastikas (sp?) on it? From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Apr 15 20:10:53 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:10:53 -0400 Subject: OFF- literally (e.c....god or goddamned??) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 05:43:18PM -0400, Tim wrote: => Unpluuged,yech!! i'f he'd released Layla in the unplugged version first,it => never would have become the classic it is... If it wasn't for Duane Allman, _Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs_ never would have become the classic that it is. Does anyone know if Duane did any shows with Derek and the Dominos? I have some October 1970 shows, but they are sans Duane. (Killer "Key to the Highway" and "Have You Ever Loved a Woman" make up for it, though.) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Tue Apr 16 00:21:28 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:21:28 +1000 Subject: OFF- literally (e.c....god or goddamned??) Message-ID: He did lots of acoustic blues. The only unplugged albums I liked were that one and Nirvana. I have 5 guitars. All of them are electric. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 7:43 AM Subject: Re: OFF- literally (e.c....god or goddamned??) > Unpluuged,yech!! i'f he'd released Layla in the unplugged version first,it > never would have become the classic it is... > tim > Steven Skane wrote: > > > > He virtually disowns Cream. Say's he was on drugs and it is rubbish. Insists > > the live Crossroads is crap. Yeah right Eric. Cream is by far the best > > music he ever did. Claptons best in the last 30 years was the unplugged > > album. Nearly everything else is mediocre and I am being charitable about > > it. His latest stuff is laughable. For a short period there he did some > > wonderful stuff. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "stephen lindas" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 7:30 PM > > Subject: Re: OFF- literally > > > > > > > WELL, I like Cream very much and The Blues Breakers. Some of his Solo > > stuff > > > is ok. Just don't like D+tD. I was there too, but don't see why that would > > > make me like them. Grateful Dead were a druggy band and I don't really > > like > > > them much either. That kind of music just isn't my thing. Cheers STEPHE > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Michael W Blackman" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:50 AM > > > Subject: Re: OFF- literally > > > > > > > > > > You hate eric clapton?? > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > > I'll give you two clues: Eric Clapton. > > > > Nothing more needs to be said on the subject. > > > > Bob (a big fan of drug addled bands of the 60's & 70's) > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/14/2002 7:31:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > > ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: > > > > > Stephen,how could you possibly hate D&tD,one of the greatest drug > > addled > > > > > bands of the 70s(maybe you had to be there!) > > > > > tim > > > > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 16 02:42:11 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (lip unplugged) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:42:11 -0600 Subject: OFF- literally (e.c....god or goddamned??) In-Reply-To: <003901c1e4fe$2de9aec0$9e5a2dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: >He did lots of acoustic blues. The only unplugged albums I liked were that >one and Nirvana. I have 5 guitars. All of them are electric. what about the Neil god? didn't he do an appearance or 2 on Unplugged and is there no Unplugged CD on him and could this be due to any weirdness or attitude fits he threw on at least one of them? wouldn't that one theoretically (did I spell that OK?) be as good as or greater than Kurt making a little tear come to our eye after he's died and sticking that performance on "us" whoever "us" could be From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Tue Apr 16 05:15:08 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:15:08 +1000 Subject: OFF- literally (e.c....god or goddamned??) Message-ID: I have seen Young's unplugged and didn't like it. I expected to like it a lot. Maybe he should have had the Kirkwood brother's. ----- Original Message ----- From: "lip unplugged" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 4:42 PM Subject: Re: OFF- literally (e.c....god or goddamned??) > >He did lots of acoustic blues. The only unplugged albums I liked were that > >one and Nirvana. I have 5 guitars. All of them are electric. > > > what about the Neil god? didn't he do an appearance or 2 on Unplugged and > is there no Unplugged CD on him and could this be due to any weirdness or > attitude fits he threw on at least one of them? > > wouldn't that one theoretically (did I spell that OK?) be as good as or > greater than Kurt making a little tear come to our eye after he's died and > sticking that performance on "us" whoever "us" could be > From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Mon Apr 15 19:39:32 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:39:32 +0100 Subject: HLL this Thursday Message-ID: that support band will be Litmus and they are just sensational - have two tapes by them and their original material and a Hawk cover or two will blow yuo away - get down there if ya get a chance - I feel sure you won't regret it. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Perry" To: Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 10:06 PM Subject: HLL this Thursday > I don't think it's been mentioned here, but Huw is playing up at the > Walthamstow Standard this Thursday (18th April). He has support from an > original London spacerock band (no idea what they're like to listen to, but > they seem nice people to chat to!). > > Closest station is Blackhorse Road, support on about 9pm, about a fiver to > get in. > > --- > Kevin Perry > The Mountain Grill > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Apr 16 06:28:56 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:28:56 EDT Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: Fair enough - I don't particularly like everything he's done but he has done some stuff that I think is quite good... I really felt for the dude tho when he lost his son - that would have to be the worst.... -------------- >>>I don't know the man, so I won't say hate. I'm sure >>>he's a nice person. >>>I do like some Cream tracks, but can't stand his >>>music otherwise. >>>Bob From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Tue Apr 16 06:08:27 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:08:27 -0400 Subject: OFF- literally (e.c....god or goddamned??) Message-ID: Yes,he has an unplugged cd,not bad at all tim lip unplugged wrote: > > >He did lots of acoustic blues. The only unplugged albums I liked were that > >one and Nirvana. I have 5 guitars. All of them are electric. > > > what about the Neil god? didn't he do an appearance or 2 on Unplugged and > is there no Unplugged CD on him and could this be due to any weirdness or > attitude fits he threw on at least one of them? > > wouldn't that one theoretically (did I spell that OK?) be as good as or > greater than Kurt making a little tear come to our eye after he's died and > sticking that performance on "us" whoever "us" could be From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 16 07:41:59 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 07:41:59 EDT Subject: OFF- literally (e.c....god or goddamned??) In-Reply-To: <20020416001053.GA17862@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On 15 Apr 2002, at 20:10, Paul Mather wrote: > Does anyone know if Duane did any shows with Derek and the Dominos? I > have some October 1970 shows, but they are sans Duane. (Killer "Key > to the Highway" and "Have You Ever Loved a Woman" make up for it, > though.) > Duane did play 2 gigs with DatD. And I saw one of them, up here in liittle ole Syracuse. The other show was someplace in Florida. I was a huge Clapton fan at the time, but the record had just come out and I hadn't heard it yet. Imagine my chagrin when this dude I'd never seen before [and didn't even know his name at the time] was blowing EC off the stage! Duane was absolutely on fire the whole night. Clapton did play well, but it was Duane's night that gig... theo From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Apr 15 08:29:35 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:29:35 +0800 Subject: OFF- literally Message-ID: I've got an album somewhere that has a lot of Page/Clapton on it. I think it's called "The Virtigo Trip." Must dig it out and have another listen. Last time I heard it, I was in my mid 20's. A loooooooong time ago. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Lennon To: Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:10 AM Subject: Re: OFF- literally > I don't know the man, so I won't say hate. I'm sure he's a nice person. > I do like some Cream tracks, but can't stand his music otherwise. > Bob > > In a message dated 4/15/2002 12:51:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM writes: > > > > You hate eric clapton?? > > > > > From micci at SCI.FI Tue Apr 16 10:13:00 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:13:00 +0300 Subject: OFF: porcupine tree Message-ID: Hi! Here is some rare Porcupine Tree CD for sale: http:www.saunalahti.fi/micci Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 16 13:28:38 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (scuz) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:28:38 -0600 Subject: (OFF SO OFF) smells like (death?) In-Reply-To: <3CBBD5C7.9591.1E5AD6@localhost> Message-ID: track 2 is what I need the boot will be fine http://uk.geocities.com/pennyroyal_3/featured/ged21907.html From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 16 13:31:02 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (scuz) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:31:02 -0600 Subject: (OFF SO OFF) smells like (LIFE AFTER) Message-ID: oops I am sorry Ben I already searched my soul to reinforce that all loved ones are there FOREVER this was an honest mistake From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 16 19:01:32 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (the grapes are sour) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:01:32 -0600 Subject: OFF -add astra In-Reply-To: <20020416001053.GA17862@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: in a private mail from one of the respectable (and very very dark) list members, I have just been educated that Carlos Allende said there were 2 main types of extra terrestrials 1) the lems- representing the + 2) the astra lems- representing the - some opinions would have it that the lack of Star Nation rave on here means that Michael Alig will be out soon and bigger than he ever was before and richer than your wildest....... maybe Campbells soup already has a deal and has him doing a new logo before he hops back on the pony and might do it in blood or something unusable just push play From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Apr 16 18:48:35 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:48:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Fantasy Line up Alert In-Reply-To: <00a501c1b43e$2efeb120$33bf7ad5@k1e5z4>; from twilson@GMX.CO.UK on Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 03:25:05AM -0000 Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 03:25:05AM -0000, Tony Wilson typed out: > I've been thinking about this postponed !! Copenhagen Spacerock Festival, > which looked more like a prog-rock festival to me, (which doesn't > necessarily make it any less of an event, of course), and I was wondering > why there isn't a one day British SPACEROCK festival ??? I know they have > Strange Daze in the USA, why not have one here in the UK ??? > Anyway........... If there was a one day spacerock festival in the UK (or > anywhere really) and you could pick the line up, of lets say 5 bands (which > are still around today preferably), who would you pick???? > My choices would be: > Hawkwind, (of course). > The Ozric Tentacles, (pure energy live). > Mr Quimby's Beard (awesome at the Forum Xmas party) > Farflung, (still my favourite US band, and in Europe this summer > apparently). > and Weltraumstaunen, (a young, but very good German band). > > I must admit that was harder than I first thought as there was so many to > chose from....... Now, I must be a cynic because whenever I try this game I think there are far too few. Two of the bands I'd like to have at such a thing, in the UK at least, I don't think actually tour (Starfield and The Incredible Expandig Mindfuck). Hawkwind and Bedouin are obvious choices among the British bands that do; Krel would probably be entertaining but they don't tour ay more either, do they? Then you've got MQB who are sort of inevitable, the Ozrics of course and how many other space-rock bands are there in the UK? I'll have nothing to do with Spacehead live any more, I don't like 'em; there are four or five Ozrics clones but unlike MQB and HW I don't think you can actually put them on beside the actual Ozrics and have anyone see the need for the lesser bands. So for Britain who else is there? Once you branch into the US then it gets better; I'd love to see dozens of bands on that scene, well, I can think of four or five (Farflung, ST37, Alien Planetscapes, Das Ludicroix (heh), Nucleon), but of them only Farflung is remotely likely to come over here I'd have thought, and that would be great, but. DarXtar were once planning a UK gig or two, they'd be an obvious candidate from elsewhere; The Spacious Mind similarly (do they even exist now?), and that band Omnia that came out of Omnia Opera may be around somewhere though I never managed to find out anything more about them. After these names though you wind up branching into either techno or stoner, both of which is fine by me but not necessarily the same sort of gig. So ideally but not asking for new touring bands to be formed, I'd want Hawkwind and the Ozrics on as double-header, Bedouin, DarXtar, MQB and Omnia if they can be found; and let's have Adrian Shaw, since he actually could raise a touring band without too much trouble... it's still only a one-dayer max, isn't it? This is why I don't think the scene is terribly healthy, not that it's ever been much better; it's just a small genre, and one that councils seem to feel present a threat to society that can easily be stomped on. Yours, Jon ObCD: Hawkwind - _Love in Space_ disc one -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Apr 16 19:09:56 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 00:09:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: New Farflung Albums In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > I just got a package w/the two new discs... > > the soundtrack album, When Science Fails (Falcata-Galia/Transparency), is > very good, definitely not the entire 'flung experience, though, being mostly > like their slower, more ambient parts. > > The album (still to be released, this is just a CD-R) for Brainticket > includes four tunes from the unreleased Myth album, and out-takes that seem > to be from the same sessions. "Prototype of a Traveller" has vocals now...i > don't think it did before. "Some in the Water" is the closing track to the > Science album. So that leaves only two tracks from the Myth disc not > released..."When I Awoke to Sleep No More" is a real mind-blower, too bad > that wasn't included... It is on the Strange Daze CD-R at least... what's the other ommitted one? And when does this album see the light, is the burning question? Also, something I asked ages back but never saw a response to, who is in Farflung these days? The last personnel list I saw was that on _Belief Module_, and then there's the Strange Daze CD-R and the only names in common are Gammaknife! and Tommy. So who are Scott and Dix, and Brandon indeed since I thought that *was* Gammaknife! as he as always been on the previous releases... What's happened to Michael Esther? And who's on the new stuff? Inquiring minds need to know, and either Chuck or Doug can surely say... Yours, Jon ObCD: Hawkwind - _Love in Space_ disc one -- "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Apr 16 19:20:21 2002 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 00:20:21 +0100 Subject: Off: Page guitars, was HW: new album ?? In-Reply-To: <002401c1e16c$e6484ca0$9e5a2dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: OK,here's my own litlle starf*cker story... JP played guitar for an all-star version of Ian Stewart & Charlie Watts' "Rocket 88" blues'n'boogie band for an Alexis Korner memorial charity gig that our jazz club in Nottingham put on... This particular night produced a few good stories which I may relate one day, but after the show (with the man's permission, of course) I did actually get to play the LP that he used on the night (unamplified, unfortunately)... I'm not particularly a fan of Les Pauls, but it was probably the most beautiful guitar I've ever handled - and so superbly set up that it almost seemed to play itself!! As for early Zep recordings, I think he used a Dano as well as the Tele on some tracks... he certainly played one during the period in question: see the cover of the BBC Sessions album. Cheers, ChrisW At 16:23 11/04/02, you wrote: >The LP 1960 Classic has the Page signature ceramic magnet humbucker's and it >sounds like an Tel...alright I was about to tell a little lie. It sounds like >a runaway freight train like all LP's and does a wonderful Zeppelin sound. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris Allen" >To: >Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:28 AM >Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > > > One of the Les Paul Studio models has coil-tapping and at least one of the > > settings sounds eerily Telecaster. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Right! I think the Page model that Gibson produced a while back > > > had a coil tap which would yield somewhat Tele-like tones and also > > > a phase reversal switch that could sound a bit like a Tele in the > > > middle position... > > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Apr 16 18:20:09 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:20:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: New Farflung Albums Message-ID: JJ wonders... On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > >> I just got a package w/the two new discs... >> >> the soundtrack album, When Science Fails (Falcata-Galia/Transparency), is >> very good, definitely not the entire 'flung experience, though, being mostly >> like their slower, more ambient parts. >> >> The album (still to be released, this is just a CD-R) for Brainticket >> includes four tunes from the unreleased Myth album, and out-takes that seem >> to be from the same sessions. "Prototype of a Traveller" has vocals now...i >> don't think it did before. "Some in the Water" is the closing track to the >> Science album. So that leaves only two tracks from the Myth disc not >> released..."When I Awoke to Sleep No More" is a real mind-blower, too bad >> that wasn't included... > > It is on the Strange Daze CD-R at least... what's the other >ommitted one? And when does this album see the light, is the burning >question? I think it's like next week or something. It's given on www.brainticket.com along with its new title (which I can't remember now). > Also, something I asked ages back but never saw a response to, who >is in Farflung these days? The last personnel list I saw was that on >_Belief Module_, and then there's the Strange Daze CD-R and the only names >in common are Gammaknife! and Tommy. So who are Scott and Dix, and Brandon >indeed since I thought that *was* Gammaknife! as he as always been on the >previous releases... What's happened to Michael Esther? And who's on the >new stuff? Inquiring minds need to know, and either Chuck or Doug can >surely say... Yours, If you go to www.falcata-galia.com, somewhere (try 'artists' and then 'Farflung') there is a list of those who appear on the album. I think Tommy and Brandon are the only two that I recognized, so he's obviously gotten some new folx in there. Funny was that Len wasn't mentioned, but that's got to be an accidental omission, even though he wasn't in the original Farflung I don't think. But now that P-Hed is dead (that's right innit?), and he's always been a major part of F-Flung live over the past several years (in Ohio at least), I'd have to think he appears on When Science Fails. Chuck? Is this thing available anywhere yet? I keep checking John Perez' Brainticket site, but it's still not listed in the catalog. Grakkl (FAA) ObCD: Dave Brock - Weird #7 (just got this one finally...I really like it) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Apr 16 20:25:45 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:25:45 -0400 Subject: OFF: New Farflung Albums Message-ID: On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:20:09 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >Funny was that Len wasn't mentioned, but that's got to be an accidental >omission, even though he wasn't in the original Farflung I don't think. >But now that P-Hed is dead (that's right innit?), and he's always been >a major part of F-Flung live over the past several years (in Ohio at >least) ... Not in Northern California! Neither in the Farflung/Chrome band, the Farflung/Damo Suzuki band, nor any of Farflung's non-backing-band appearences up here over the last few years. But it's good to know that one of "DJ Me DJ You" (the techno/DJ duo that Tommy sometimes does live sound for) is responsible for the CD reissue of Gary Wilson's 'You Think You Know Me', a totally brain-fried basement album of new wave psychedelic soul music. Imagine the 'Hardcore Devo' albums as done by Syd Barrett, if thought he was Barry White ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Apr 16 20:32:50 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:32:50 -0400 Subject: OFF- literally-D+tD-Cream-acid-colorful bike rides-TinaT Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:50:32 -0600, Dr. Cowpatty wrote: >is Doug's Rickenbacker in yet? Not yet. Believe me, you guys will be (one of, if not) the first to know. >the one with the swastikas (sp?) on it? Actually (sorry to dissapoint), it's stars (not even iron crosses), see: http://www.pdfworld.co.jp/tyson/4004.htm ... but you spelled it correctly! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From youless at LVCM.COM Tue Apr 16 22:04:23 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 22:04:23 -0400 Subject: HW: Dave Brock email interview Message-ID: Dave Brock kindly answered a few questions by email, for an interview on Starfarer's Hawkwind Page at http://www.starfarer.net (topmost link on the index page) This has some relevance to the current thread about Eric Clapton :-) Steve From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue Apr 16 22:46:09 2002 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 22:46:09 EDT Subject: HW: Dave Brock email interview Message-ID: Great i/v, here's a question, is Mr. Brock the holder of a title or a lawyer? Just curious...sounds cool.... Question from this i/v: Q6: I have heard that D. Brock esq. taught Eric Clapton how to fingerpick. of course I'm referring to the "esq." assuming it means esquire. the answer here doesn't solve this long time conundrum of teaching EC to fingerpick. bob In a message dated 4/16/2002 10:05:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, youless at LVCM.COM writes: > Dave Brock kindly answered a few questions by email, for an interview on > Starfarer's Hawkwind Page at http://www.starfarer.net (topmost link on the > index page) > > This has some relevance to the current thread about Eric Clapton :-) > > Steve From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Apr 16 23:05:15 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:05:15 EDT Subject: OFF: New Farflung Albums Message-ID: In a message dated 4/16/02 5:26:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > >Funny was that Len wasn't mentioned, but that's got to be an accidental > >omission, even though he wasn't in the original Farflung I don't think. > >But now that P-Hed is dead (that's right innit?), and he's always been > >a major part of F-Flung live over the past several years (in Ohio at > >least) ... > > Not in Northern California! Neither in the Farflung/Chrome band, the > Farflung/Damo Suzuki band, nor any of Farflung's non-backing-band > appearences up here over the last few years. Yes, I didn't know of Len performing w/Farflung either, though he did play w/the Nik Turner band when we saw 'em in 2000 (remember that, Doug? Dan Ductor?? ), which is where the stellar live "St. Anthony's Fire" comes from (Transglobal Friends and Relations). As for FF membership, I have always been totally confused as well. After awhile figured Gammaknife was LaBelle, but then his name did appear w/GK on some album credits, didn't he?? When Science Fails is produced by Len DR ("w/Farflung")...which makes sense, since it sounds, well...produced... As to the availability of the album, yeah, should be any day now, but I haven't seen it in any stores yet, and if any stores would carry it, it'd be L.A.-area stores...then again, Falcata-Galia/Transparency have a history of delayed releases...I think I first heard Science almost a year ago! Yo, JJ-- granted "When I Awoke to Sleep No More" appears live on the Strange Daze disc, but the studio version is actually much better thank the live version...the live one being abbreviated and all... Chuck From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 17 00:09:34 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 00:09:34 EDT Subject: OFF- literally (e.c....god or goddamned??) Message-ID: Dwayne Dibley!!!!!!!??? arrrrrrggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! >>>Does anyone know if Duane did any shows with Derek and the Dominos? I have some October 1970 shows, but they are sans Duane. (Killer "Key to the Highway" and "Have You Ever Loved a Woman" make up for it, though.) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 17 00:44:38 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 00:44:38 EDT Subject: OFF- literally (e.c....god or goddamned??) Message-ID: >He did lots of acoustic blues. The only unplugged albums I liked were that >one and Nirvana. I have 5 guitars. All of them are electric. I have a guitar - an electric guitar - but I haven't been able to get any sound out of it for a few weeks weird that....... I wonder if its plugged in?? I'll go look..... From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Wed Apr 17 02:25:07 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 16:25:07 +1000 Subject: Page guitars, was HW: new album ?? Message-ID: Right. He did dribble on a Danelectro. Nice gig to be at too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Warburton" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: Off: Page guitars, was HW: new album ?? > > OK,here's my own litlle starf*cker story... > JP played guitar for an all-star version of Ian Stewart & Charlie Watts' > "Rocket 88" blues'n'boogie band for an Alexis Korner memorial charity gig > that our jazz club in Nottingham put on... > This particular night produced a few good stories which I may relate one > day, but after the show (with the man's permission, of course) I did > actually get to play the LP that he used on the night (unamplified, > unfortunately)... I'm not particularly a fan of Les Pauls, but it was > probably the most beautiful guitar I've ever handled - and so superbly set > up that it almost seemed to play itself!! > > As for early Zep recordings, I think he used a Dano as well as the Tele on > some tracks... he certainly played one during the period in question: see > the cover of the BBC Sessions album. > > Cheers, > ChrisW > > At 16:23 11/04/02, you wrote: > >The LP 1960 Classic has the Page signature ceramic magnet humbucker's and it > >sounds like an Tel...alright I was about to tell a little lie. It sounds like > >a runaway freight train like all LP's and does a wonderful Zeppelin sound. > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Chris Allen" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:28 AM > >Subject: Re: HW: new album ?? > > > > > One of the Les Paul Studio models has coil-tapping and at least one of the > > > settings sounds eerily Telecaster. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Right! I think the Page model that Gibson produced a while back > > > > had a coil tap which would yield somewhat Tele-like tones and also > > > > a phase reversal switch that could sound a bit like a Tele in the > > > > middle position... > > > > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 17 02:46:33 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 02:46:33 EDT Subject: HW: Dave Brock email interview Message-ID: Hey Moonglum! Thanks for that - thats great! :-) Devon or bust!!! From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Wed Apr 17 04:22:51 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 18:22:51 +1000 Subject: HW: Dave Brock email interview Message-ID: Interesting. EC and DB are brother guitar players. The only EC I like is Cream. I have the famous Mayall record and the Page Clapton stuff and it is just pale white boy imitations. I do like Crossroads, Spoonful, White Room, Tales of Brave Ulysses, Politician, Strange Brew, Born Under A Bad Sign etc. Jimi liked them and was inspired by them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:46 PM Subject: Re: HW: Dave Brock email interview > Hey Moonglum! > > Thanks for that - thats great! :-) > > Devon or bust!!! > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Wed Apr 17 06:11:05 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 06:11:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: New Farflung Albums Message-ID: >Is this thing available anywhere yet? I keep checking John Perez' Brainticket >site, but it's still not listed in the catalog. John Perez told me a while back that he was shooting for a June release. Jerry From coral at APORT.RU Wed Apr 17 06:55:45 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:55:45 +0400 Subject: OFF: New Farflung Albums Message-ID: Hi, are there any Farflung sites with discographies and history? And the same question about Pressurehed. Alisa From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Apr 17 08:14:39 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 08:14:39 -0400 Subject: HW: Fantasy Line up Alert Message-ID: But surely you're all going to the event below? SONIC ROCK SOLSTICE (FRI 21st - SAT 22nd JUNE 2002) INTER-GALACTIC UPDATE You are invited onboard the SONIC ROCK SOLSICE flight 21220602, powered by a 15k sound engine supplied and engineered by Dave of Aquarius Acoustics, for a journey of fascination and intrigue through the inter-stellar chaos. Check In Time: From 15:00hrs on Friday 21st June 2002. 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Who knows ???? Your E.T.A back on Earth is OO:OOhrs where one of our in flight DJs will rock the night away. Extra Features: St Johns Ambulance, C.M.A Tent, Band Merchandise, Tequila Tarts, Tattooist, Record Fair, Various Stalls, Raffle, M.A.G Stall, etc....... The aim of this psychedelic mindstorm is to raise a donation for N.A.B.D. to enable disabled bikers to enjoy the freedom they deserve. We hope you join us on this inter-stellar journey and return home safely. Further Info: - WWW.SALUTATION-MCC.CO.UK CHRIS 01347 848494 Email: contact at s... MARK 01253 894290 From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Apr 16 08:24:10 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:24:10 +0800 Subject: HW: Dave Brock email interview Message-ID: Hi Steve Excellent interview. Many thanks for sharing the info. Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Moonglum . To: Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:04 AM Subject: HW: Dave Brock email interview > Dave Brock kindly answered a few questions by email, for an interview on > Starfarer's Hawkwind Page at http://www.starfarer.net (topmost link on the > index page) > > This has some relevance to the current thread about Eric Clapton :-) > > Steve > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Apr 17 11:10:04 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:10:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: New Farflung Albums Message-ID: HI, I think theres a link on www.strange-trips.com Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alisa" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 6:55 AM Subject: Re: OFF: New Farflung Albums > Hi, > > are there any Farflung sites with discographies and history? And the same > question about Pressurehed. > > Alisa From shermarama at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Apr 17 12:04:07 2002 From: shermarama at YAHOO.CO.UK (Gesticulates Very Expressively) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:04:07 -0400 Subject: HW: EMI jewel-case remasters Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:51:56 +0100, Mark Von Bargen wrote: >Jon Jarrett wrote >> Sorry to take so long coming back on this; a shop in Brighton >called I think Rebel Records. Something-beginning-with-an-R Records anyway. >This probably isn't much help but it's the best I can remember. Unless >you're in Brighton this probably won't save you much money, especially if >they don't have it any more... But for what use it is, there it is, yours, >> Jon >> >No problem Jon, I went out and bought it for ?7.99 as an impulse buy a few >weeks ago. I had been meaning for ages to get Toxicity album by System of A >Down and saw that at a good price so got the two of them together. >Gotta say also that the System of A Down cd is absolutely excellent if you >like intelli-metal (no, i didn't want to invent a new metal genre). It is >not kiddie or nu-metal in any way - its a very dark album lyric wise. >Anyway, thanks for the info and dont worry about the delay as Brighton is a >fair old trek from Liverpool. Yer lad probably was thinking of Rounder Records, a fine Brighton shop but not the one it came from. There's a proto-chain called Essential Music, shops in Brighton, Bournemouth and Edinburgh at the moment I think, selling lots of classics (and I mean classics you might actually want) for bargain prices. I've bought things like Led Zeppelin, Zappa, Tom Waits in there for much less than usual prices, less than usual second hand prices even. Many things are ?6, (and that is ?6, not ?5.99, which gets my vote) as Space Ritual was, and last time I looked so were the self-titled, Doremifasolatido and HoTMG. Sherm. From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Apr 17 17:03:27 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:03:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Dave Brock Message-ID: Well, one and all,the Star One 'Space Metal' ltd double CD arrived here today (well over 100 of the goddamn things),and I can report that the Dave Brock sung, 9+ min Hawkwind medley is just superb. Without a break they give you moments of Master Of The Universe, Silve Machine, Psychedelic Warlords, Brainstorm, Assault & Battery, The War I Survived and Spirit of The Age that are pure magic, driven by a guitar/synths-led space-rock assault that is positively stellar - superb. The album itself is right down the line prog-metal with some wicked playingas long as you like that side of the rock fence. But you just gotta hear the medley - a cracker,methinks. Andy G. From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Apr 17 17:07:30 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:07:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: New Farflung Albums Message-ID: despite a constant flood of e.mails to FF and Transparency asking where the heck our order for this has got to,we have heard diddley squat back - so I guess it can;t be long now. Andy G. > Is this thing available anywhere yet? I keep checking John Perez' > Brainticket site, but it's still not listed in the catalog. > > Grakkl (FAA) > > ObCD: Dave Brock - Weird #7 (just got this one finally...I really like it) From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Apr 17 17:11:12 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:11:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Dave Brock email interview Message-ID: ahhh............Cream Live Vol 1 - now there is one steamingly interstellar guitar album, eclipsed only by the awesome version of 'Steppin' Out' on Cream Live Vol 2' - wot? ya don't own them? - really ya should be ashamed of yerselves. Andy G. np: Pink Floyd's BBC Sessions - ah, the memories ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Skane" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:22 AM Subject: Re: HW: Dave Brock email interview > Interesting. EC and DB are brother guitar players. The only EC I like is > Cream. I have the famous Mayall record and the Page Clapton stuff and it is > just pale white boy imitations. > > I do like Crossroads, Spoonful, White Room, Tales of Brave Ulysses, > Politician, Strange Brew, Born Under A Bad Sign etc. Jimi liked them and was > inspired by them. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 17 19:05:13 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 00:05:13 +0100 Subject: NIK: ICU on CD? (was: ICU on CDR) In-Reply-To: <3C6CF3D9.746BEB1E@hawklord.uklinux.net>; from chris@HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET on Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:41:13AM +0000 Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:41:13AM +0000, Chris Gibbs typed out: > All of ICU's back catalogue (except the album without Nik) is availabe > abosoutly free from http://doremi.co.uk/icu !!! I'm sure Steve Pond would have that up if Trev would let him, there's plenty of non-Nik stuff there, but it's OOP unlike _Now You Know the Score_ which Trev is still flogging. > Its all mp3 format, Where the mp3's are of records it does sound to me > as if they are recordings from vynal. But they are all good no > scratches > > I'll do everything ICU did on 8 cdr's (includes Calvert and Imperial > Pompadors) These are mostly recordings from my vynal, but not all > (Maximum Effect is now fixed so no 2 second gaps), for swaps or similar. > > Anyone selling ICU cdr's for big money is having a laugth, and loosing > friends. Even if, and this is quite important I think, it's Trev Thoms? Only I believe he is the source of these CDRs. It's a pity he can't get them out on a decent label but he must be closer to breaking even this way. Something that occurred to me a little while back, actually, though I haven't yet done anything about it, was some kind of effort to get the ICU back catalogue back into print. My summation of the situation is probably off here but it seems to me: _Pass Out_ was on Riddle, wich I assume is defunct as a company now, but its CD version came out on Oldhitz, who still exist as a shop but no longer seem to have a label; I don't know who would own the masters, if they still exist, but from what I can tell from if it's them they might be talkable into repressing it as CD-R on a demand basis, and maybe kicking back to the royalties holders? It is crying out for a re-edition with at least `So Try As Id' on it and if possible `Paradise Beach'--though in an ideal world that should probably be on a reissue of _Ersatz_... and gods only know who could be persuaded to take that on! _Maximum Effect_ is available, though heaven only knows what the legality of it is :-) Again, a real CD with bonus tracks would be nice, and Trev doesn't seem to have the masters as the CDR is made from vinyl unless I'm mistaken. But we can get it, so it's not as urgent as the others. Let me leave _Punkadelic_ for a minute... _New Anatomy_ was on Demi Monde, and lots of Demi Monde stuff *has* gone to CD on recent years; but given the payment problems with this one, I guess we won't be seeing this joining them unless Dave Anderson feels there's some money in doing to ICU what he does so well to HW.... still, if other stuff came out it could happen. On the other hand it's probably the one you need least... Let me also leave _Presidents Tapes_ for a minute... `Blood and Bone' was on Jettisoundz, which was a video label primarily and as best as I can discover was merged in 1992 with a company called Visionary Communications (source: ). These are the people who were behind the _Night of the Hawks_ Hawkwind vinyl, and are as far as I can tell still functional but I guess they might not be too anxious to do audio. Besides, if ICU still own the masters they can probably squeeze the tracks onto another release if they can achieve one. So, _Punkadelia_ and _Presidents Tapes_, both on Flickknife. Flickknife is a dead duck but most of its holdings seem to be available on Anagram, which is part of Cherry Red which is still going as far as I know. They have inserts in the CDs they issue saying if you want a classic punk title on CD you should tell them and they'll look into it. Why they haven't done this with records they presumably own I don't quite understand, but if they don't think ICU's worth the investment, it seems to me quite possible that they haven't heard that ICU is up and running again, and indeed has a new album in the process of recording (any news on that Mr Pond?) Perhaps someone from the band should tell them as much... Failing that at least we could suggest it to them, in numbers :-) The contact address, which I glean from , seems to be . They look to me to be far the most likely for a reissue, and by happy coincidence the albums are both rather good too. But, the man from the band, Steve Pond: does *any* of this make sense or have the situation right? Would applying gentle suggestion to Cherry Red be in any way a helpful thing to do? I'm only throwing out an idea here, and if there's some project on the boil or there's difficult background I wouldn't want to tread on people's toes. Just thinking in text, yours, Jon ObCD: Blue Oyster Cult - _Secret Treaties_ remaster -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 17 19:26:55 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 00:26:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: Orbital/Porcupine Tree/Astralasia In-Reply-To: <01f801c1b803$804c9600$0100007f@dial.pipex.com>; from Deadearnest@BTOPENWORLD.COM on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 06:16:06PM -0000 Message-ID: On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 06:16:06PM -0000, Andrew Garibaldi typed out: > Orbital 'Halcyon' is by far and away the best thing they ever did - just > track down the CD single with the edit and the full version, forget the > albums and get into Shpongle instead - far better.. > The Astralasia mix of 'Voyage 34' is on the 'Voyage 34' CD album if I > remember rightly, with all three versions (from the two singles) fo thetrack > on it and it's fab. As to spaciest Tree CD, well if you don;t mind vocals, > then surely must be 'Sky Moves Sideways' altho' there are two instrumental > CD's by them if you want something with more power. > As to latest Astralasia, believe it or not I've not heard it yet as I am > about three light years behind with reviewing (well, not quite, but one hell > of a backlog) due to all the work now underway to get the CDS website up and > running. As to reissue of old Astralasia stuff, not heard anything but I'll > ask them tomorrow and let you know. It was Rich Warren asking, I believe, but for information generally, `Halcyon' is on the untitled album with the brown sleeve, known as the brown album by afficionados :-) I have it and love it, though I actually don't rate `Halcyon' very highly. I'm unusual among Orbital fans in this respect though. I understand the single track is different in some aspects, which may be why. Never heard of Shpongle before; are they better than Orbital at the same thing, or are they parallel evolvers? _Voyage 34: the Complete Trip_ is indeed the CD with that track on it, though there are four tracks, the original Phase One and Two of the track, the Astralasia remix (which to my mind is like every other Astralasia remix I ever did hear, boring, picking the least interesting bits of a track and looping them for longer than before, minimalist to the point of tedium--but your mileage may well vary) and a fourth Phase which is in some sense a remix but has loads of extra stuff by Richard Barbieri of later PT and various solo ambient projects over its very bare bones so as to effectively be a new piece. It's rather a good CD, and I agree with Andy, _The Sky Moved Sideways_ is indubitably the spaciest of their other albums, and not a little like Floyd's _Wish You Were Here_ either. Hope all that's of some use even now, and someone tell me about this Spongle lot, yours, Jon Jarrett ObCD: The Eastern Dark - _Where Are All the Single Girls?_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Apr 18 04:48:21 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 04:48:21 EDT Subject: Techinal Ecsatcy Message-ID: Does anyone know of a really good program for creating stunning - rendered - fractl type psychedelic animated artwork? Doesn't necessarily have to be a fractl thing - but something that could be - say - projected within a concert light show and hopefully something that doesn't cost a fortune.... Anyone? From novadrive at COX.NET Thu Apr 18 08:27:58 2002 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 05:27:58 -0700 Subject: Techinal Ecsatcy In-Reply-To: <93.1babd54e.29efe259@aol.com> Message-ID: http://www.synthesoft.com/psych/psych.htm KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Michael W Blackman > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:48 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Techinal Ecsatcy > > > Does anyone know of a really good program for creating stunning - > rendered - fractl type psychedelic animated artwork? > Doesn't necessarily have to be a fractl thing - but something > that could be - say - projected within a concert light show > and hopefully something that doesn't cost a fortune.... > Anyone? From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Thu Apr 18 08:45:32 2002 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 08:45:32 -0400 Subject: HW: Dave Brock Message-ID: Dear Andy, Now I'm really looking forward to this Space Metal thing. Please don't forget me. Thanks a lot, as always, Eli Friedman From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Thu Apr 18 08:49:05 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:49:05 +0100 Subject: FW: Dave Brock email interview Message-ID: Can anyone identify the man next to Stacia? -----Original Message----- From: Steve Youles To: Jobson, Eddie Sent: 18/04/02 01:22 Subject: Re: Dave Brock email interview Hi Eddie Not got a clue who that is.... Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Jobson, Eddie To: 'Moonglum . ' ; 'BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ' Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:08 AM Subject: RE: Dave Brock email interview See the attached picture. Who is the guy on the right in the striped t-shirt? And I call myself a fan! The Huw Lloyd Langton photos are great. Eddie. From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Thu Apr 18 11:37:28 2002 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:37:28 -0400 Subject: Techinal Ecsatcy Message-ID: Michael W Blackman wrote: > Does anyone know of a really good program for creating stunning - rendered - fractl type psychedelic animated artwork? > Doesn't necessarily have to be a fractl thing - but something that could be - say - projected within a concert light show > and hopefully something that doesn't cost a fortune.... Fracint. It's freeware. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Apr 18 13:03:22 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Cosmic Dolphin) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:03:22 -0500 Subject: NIK: ICU on CD? (was: ICU on CDR) Message-ID: I was in Oldhitz a few weeks back, they still have copies of Passout, it was prominently displayed in the window, with a note that it was their own release, so it must still be in print. Also I asked them about various videos that alledegdlylylyly John Hughes (the invisible owner) is suposed to have of Bob Calvert, and ICU, and the answer I received was: We are moving to a new bigger shop around the corner, at the minute all the video materials are in storage, and once they move into the new shop, John is going to look at exactly what he has in storage. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 6:05 PM Subject: NIK: ICU on CD? (was: ICU on CDR) > On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:41:13AM +0000, Chris Gibbs typed out: > > > All of ICU's back catalogue (except the album without Nik) is availabe > > abosoutly free from http://doremi.co.uk/icu !!! > > I'm sure Steve Pond would have that up if Trev would let him, > there's plenty of non-Nik stuff there, but it's OOP unlike _Now You Know > the Score_ which Trev is still flogging. > > > Its all mp3 format, Where the mp3's are of records it does sound to me > > as if they are recordings from vynal. But they are all good no > > scratches > > > > I'll do everything ICU did on 8 cdr's (includes Calvert and Imperial > > Pompadors) These are mostly recordings from my vynal, but not all > > (Maximum Effect is now fixed so no 2 second gaps), for swaps or similar. > > > > Anyone selling ICU cdr's for big money is having a laugth, and loosing > > friends. > > Even if, and this is quite important I think, it's Trev > Thoms? Only I believe he is the source of these CDRs. It's a pity he can't > get them out on a decent label but he must be closer to breaking even this > way. > > Something that occurred to me a little while back, actually, > though I haven't yet done anything about it, was some kind of effort to > get the ICU back catalogue back into print. My summation of the situation > is probably off here but it seems to me: > > _Pass Out_ was on Riddle, wich I assume is defunct as a company > now, but its CD version came out on Oldhitz, who still exist as a shop but > no longer seem to have a label; I don't know who would own the masters, if > they still exist, but from what I can tell from > if it's them they might be talkable into repressing it as CD-R on a demand > basis, and maybe kicking back to the royalties holders? It is crying out > for a re-edition with at least `So Try As Id' on it and if possible > `Paradise Beach'--though in an ideal world that should probably be on a > reissue of _Ersatz_... and gods only know who could be persuaded to take > that on! > > _Maximum Effect_ is available, though heaven only knows what the legality > of it is :-) Again, a real CD with bonus tracks would be nice, and Trev > doesn't seem to have the masters as the CDR is made from vinyl unless I'm > mistaken. But we can get it, so it's not as urgent as the others. > > Let me leave _Punkadelic_ for a minute... > > _New Anatomy_ was on Demi Monde, and lots of Demi Monde stuff *has* gone > to CD on recent years; but given the payment problems with this one, I > guess we won't be seeing this joining them unless Dave Anderson feels > there's some money in doing to ICU what he does so well to HW.... still, > if other stuff came out it could happen. On the other hand it's probably > the one you need least... > > Let me also leave _Presidents Tapes_ for a minute... > > `Blood and Bone' was on Jettisoundz, which was a video label primarily and > as best as I can discover was merged in 1992 with a company called > Visionary Communications > (source: ). These > are the people who were behind the _Night of the Hawks_ Hawkwind vinyl, > and are as far as I can tell still functional but I guess they might not > be too anxious to do audio. Besides, if ICU still own the masters they can > probably squeeze the tracks onto another release if they can achieve one. > > So, _Punkadelia_ and _Presidents Tapes_, both on Flickknife. > Flickknife is a dead duck but most of its holdings seem to be available on > Anagram, which is part of Cherry Red which is still going as far as I > know. They have inserts in the CDs they issue saying if you want a classic > punk title on CD you should tell them and they'll look into it. Why they > haven't done this with records they presumably own I don't quite > understand, but if they don't think ICU's worth the investment, it seems > to me quite possible that they haven't heard that ICU is up and running > again, and indeed has a new album in the process of recording (any news on > that Mr Pond?) Perhaps someone from the band should tell them as > much... Failing that at least we could suggest it to them, in numbers > :-) The contact address, which I glean from , > seems to be . They look to me to be far the > most likely for a reissue, and by happy coincidence the albums are both > rather good too. > > But, the man from the band, Steve Pond: does *any* of this make > sense or have the situation right? Would applying gentle suggestion to > Cherry Red be in any way a helpful thing to do? I'm only throwing out an > idea here, and if there's some project on the boil or there's difficult > background I wouldn't want to tread on people's toes. Just thinking in > text, yours, > Jon > > ObCD: Blue Oyster Cult - _Secret Treaties_ remaster > -- > Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > -------------------------------------------------------- > "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Apr 18 15:41:13 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:41:13 -0400 Subject: NIK: ICU on CD? (was: ICU on CDR) Message-ID: HI RICH, Let us know when he does this. I'd like to contact him. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cosmic Dolphin" To: Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:03 PM Subject: Re: NIK: ICU on CD? (was: ICU on CDR) > I was in Oldhitz a few weeks back, they still have copies of Passout, it was > prominently displayed in the window, with a note that it was their own > release, so it must still be in print. > > Also I asked them about various videos that alledegdlylylyly John Hughes > (the invisible owner) is suposed to have of Bob Calvert, and ICU, and the > answer I received was: We are moving to a new bigger shop around the > corner, at the minute all the video materials are in storage, and once they > move into the new shop, John is going to look at exactly what he has in > storage. > > Rich W > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Jarrett" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 6:05 PM > Subject: NIK: ICU on CD? (was: ICU on CDR) > > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:41:13AM +0000, Chris Gibbs typed out: > > > > > All of ICU's back catalogue (except the album without Nik) is availabe > > > abosoutly free from http://doremi.co.uk/icu !!! > > > > I'm sure Steve Pond would have that up if Trev would let him, > > there's plenty of non-Nik stuff there, but it's OOP unlike _Now You Know > > the Score_ which Trev is still flogging. > > > > > Its all mp3 format, Where the mp3's are of records it does sound to me > > > as if they are recordings from vynal. But they are all good no > > > scratches > > > > > > I'll do everything ICU did on 8 cdr's (includes Calvert and Imperial > > > Pompadors) These are mostly recordings from my vynal, but not all > > > (Maximum Effect is now fixed so no 2 second gaps), for swaps or similar. > > > > > > Anyone selling ICU cdr's for big money is having a laugth, and loosing > > > friends. > > > > Even if, and this is quite important I think, it's Trev > > Thoms? Only I believe he is the source of these CDRs. It's a pity he can't > > get them out on a decent label but he must be closer to breaking even this > > way. > > > > Something that occurred to me a little while back, actually, > > though I haven't yet done anything about it, was some kind of effort to > > get the ICU back catalogue back into print. My summation of the situation > > is probably off here but it seems to me: > > > > _Pass Out_ was on Riddle, wich I assume is defunct as a company > > now, but its CD version came out on Oldhitz, who still exist as a shop but > > no longer seem to have a label; I don't know who would own the masters, if > > they still exist, but from what I can tell from > > if it's them they might be talkable into repressing it as CD-R on a demand > > basis, and maybe kicking back to the royalties holders? It is crying out > > for a re-edition with at least `So Try As Id' on it and if possible > > `Paradise Beach'--though in an ideal world that should probably be on a > > reissue of _Ersatz_... and gods only know who could be persuaded to take > > that on! > > > > _Maximum Effect_ is available, though heaven only knows what the legality > > of it is :-) Again, a real CD with bonus tracks would be nice, and Trev > > doesn't seem to have the masters as the CDR is made from vinyl unless I'm > > mistaken. But we can get it, so it's not as urgent as the others. > > > > Let me leave _Punkadelic_ for a minute... > > > > _New Anatomy_ was on Demi Monde, and lots of Demi Monde stuff *has* gone > > to CD on recent years; but given the payment problems with this one, I > > guess we won't be seeing this joining them unless Dave Anderson feels > > there's some money in doing to ICU what he does so well to HW.... still, > > if other stuff came out it could happen. On the other hand it's probably > > the one you need least... > > > > Let me also leave _Presidents Tapes_ for a minute... > > > > `Blood and Bone' was on Jettisoundz, which was a video label primarily and > > as best as I can discover was merged in 1992 with a company called > > Visionary Communications > > (source: ). These > > are the people who were behind the _Night of the Hawks_ Hawkwind vinyl, > > and are as far as I can tell still functional but I guess they might not > > be too anxious to do audio. Besides, if ICU still own the masters they can > > probably squeeze the tracks onto another release if they can achieve one. > > > > So, _Punkadelia_ and _Presidents Tapes_, both on Flickknife. > > Flickknife is a dead duck but most of its holdings seem to be available on > > Anagram, which is part of Cherry Red which is still going as far as I > > know. They have inserts in the CDs they issue saying if you want a classic > > punk title on CD you should tell them and they'll look into it. Why they > > haven't done this with records they presumably own I don't quite > > understand, but if they don't think ICU's worth the investment, it seems > > to me quite possible that they haven't heard that ICU is up and running > > again, and indeed has a new album in the process of recording (any news on > > that Mr Pond?) Perhaps someone from the band should tell them as > > much... Failing that at least we could suggest it to them, in numbers > > :-) The contact address, which I glean from , > > seems to be . They look to me to be far the > > most likely for a reissue, and by happy coincidence the albums are both > > rather good too. > > > > But, the man from the band, Steve Pond: does *any* of this make > > sense or have the situation right? Would applying gentle suggestion to > > Cherry Red be in any way a helpful thing to do? I'm only throwing out an > > idea here, and if there's some project on the boil or there's difficult > > background I wouldn't want to tread on people's toes. Just thinking in > > text, yours, > > Jon > > > > ObCD: Blue Oyster Cult - _Secret Treaties_ remaster > > -- > > Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London > > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From coral at APORT.RU Fri Apr 19 06:01:51 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:01:51 +0400 Subject: OFF: Len Del Rio Message-ID: Hi, this musician took part in many projects, just wanted to know did I miss something. Zero Gravity, Anubian Lights, Pressurehed, Nik Turner's band, Spiral Realms, Brain (?), Farflung (?)... anything else? Alisa From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Apr 19 09:18:22 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:18:22 EDT Subject: Dear Hawks Message-ID: How goes the Audio Logic system? Is that the Emagic Logic Audio? Platinum perhaps? I have some experience with the Gold and Silver versions.... Great software - love it. Mick From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Apr 19 11:08:35 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 11:08:35 -0400 Subject: HLL this Thursday Message-ID: Litmus were indeed most excellent and exceptionally nice people as well. They played a very strong 45 minute set and are worth seeing. HLL was on fire; he played a superb set which clocked in at just under 2 hours and was on great form, joking with the (sadly rather small) audience and coaxing some wonderful sounds from his guitar. His band were excellent and the communication problems between Huw and the keyboard player were rather amusing. Huw also seemed very positive about the new Hawkwind album, commenting that things were "going well, considering it is Hawkwind". Colin On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:39:32 +0100, Andrew Garibaldi wrote: >that support band will be Litmus and they are just sensational - have two >tapes by them and their original material and a Hawk cover or two will blow >yuo away - get down there if ya get a chance - I feel sure you won't regret >it. >Andy G. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kevin Perry" >To: >Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 10:06 PM >Subject: HLL this Thursday > > >> I don't think it's been mentioned here, but Huw is playing up at the >> Walthamstow Standard this Thursday (18th April). He has support from an >> original London spacerock band (no idea what they're like to listen to, >but >> they seem nice people to chat to!). >> >> Closest station is Blackhorse Road, support on about 9pm, about a fiver to >> get in. >> >> --- >> Kevin Perry >> The Mountain Grill >> http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ >> >> "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; >> and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its >> duties." From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Apr 19 14:55:00 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:55:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: Virus alert Message-ID: Did anyone else here receive the "A funny website" virus from ? (Fake return address: pwibrew13 , with press.bat attachment.) Bill & Cynthia - you may want to disinfect your computer! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From pwibrew13 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Apr 19 15:19:23 2002 From: pwibrew13 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Peter Wibrew) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:19:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: Virus alert Message-ID: 2 or 3 emails have been caught this evening by my virus software, so an update of sigs and a scan said I was clear, should I be worried that thats my old email address (the return one) all the best Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:55 PM Subject: OFF: Virus alert > Did anyone else here receive the "A funny website" virus from > ? (Fake return address: pwibrew13 > , with press.bat attachment.) > > Bill & Cynthia - you may want to disinfect your computer! > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Fri Apr 19 15:31:28 2002 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:31:28 +0100 Subject: OFF: Virus alert Message-ID: Subject: Re: OFF: Virus alert > 2 or 3 emails have been caught this evening by my virus software, so an > update of sigs and a scan said I was clear, should I be worried that thats > my old email address (the return one) I`ve had about 10 so far this afternoon Si From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Apr 19 16:33:17 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:33:17 -0400 Subject: OFF: Virus alert Message-ID: Same here, I've done 2 scans and I'm clear. How do we stop this? Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Si Halley" To: Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 3:31 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Virus alert > Subject: Re: OFF: Virus alert > > > > 2 or 3 emails have been caught this evening by my virus software, so an > > update of sigs and a scan said I was clear, should I be worried that thats > > my old email address (the return one) > > I`ve had about 10 so far this afternoon > > Si From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Apr 19 17:23:53 2002 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (Jez Dacombe) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 22:23:53 +0100 Subject: HW: CDs for sale Message-ID: Hi, A few CDs for sale. Ozric Tentacles: Floating Seeds Remixed - ?4 (still sealed) Gong: Zero To Infinity - ?4 Porcupine Tree: Piano Lessons - ?4 Hawkwind: Kings of Speed, Lords of Light - ?8 "o.n.o."s acceptable. Please email me privately if interested. Cheers, Jez From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Apr 19 19:14:36 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mc) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 17:14:36 -0600 Subject: OFF: Virus alert In-Reply-To: <200204191855.OAA06722@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >Did anyone else here receive the "A funny website" virus from >? (Fake return address: pwibrew13 >, with press.bat attachment.) > **Bill & Cynthia - you may want to disinfect your computer!** > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com mc chuckles here, this from a man who would light the city with burning macs hope there is a beer or 2 left Bill.... send more Laura, you better teach me the ULTIMATE viral shield b4 I am going near that pc....looks like a lot of headaches from the outside any tentative titles to the "new" HW album in progress? From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Apr 19 18:05:45 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 18:05:45 -0400 Subject: OFF: Virus alert Message-ID: Yes,but received it in the hawkwind group list tim Doug Pearson wrote: > > Did anyone else here receive the "A funny website" virus from > ? (Fake return address: pwibrew13 > , with press.bat attachment.) > > Bill & Cynthia - you may want to disinfect your computer! > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Apr 19 17:40:12 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 17:40:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farflung CD to offer Message-ID: Hi folx... Came back from Used Kids today with a spare copy of Farflung's So Many Minds, So Little Time for $5. Will send to anyone who offers $7 for it (to cover postage costs). Overseas is ok (same price...but for the conversion)...you'll receive without jewel box. I accept PayPal, US$ cash, Swiss Francs (are there any other kind?), Euros ok too (unless they're the denomination(s) that make people sick), and trade offers. Grakkl (FAA), who's looking forward to a few concerts to see finally, including Motorhead (does anyone get the impression from the new album logo that there's a 'Hawkwind' influence there?) and the Dino-tour of Ronnie Dio/Deep Purple (sans Lord sadly)/Scorpions, but not particularly excited about the 'Sans Halen' tour (an understatement), and not having cable can't imagine what's so interesting about Ozzy taking out the trash. And who also wonders whether the new Diamond Head is anywhere near as good as the old Diamond Head, or at least the Diamond Head of Death & Progress age (which was surprisingly good IMHO). Did anyone see them in New Jersey? Or the UK for that matter? From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Fri Apr 19 20:37:59 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 01:37:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Virus alert Message-ID: yeh - it's got in several e.mails - norton is going wild here careful eveyone, Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:55 PM Subject: OFF: Virus alert > Did anyone else here receive the "A funny website" virus from > ? (Fake return address: pwibrew13 > , with press.bat attachment.) > > Bill & Cynthia - you may want to disinfect your computer! > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 19 22:58:26 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 22:58:26 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 4/13/02 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. E-MAIL me at the Station during my program for the famous "comments, questions and recommendations" at the same e-mail as above: or give a call at: 909-787-KUCR thanks, Chuck 4/13 1.Vas Deferens Organization-- "Pongcraft" (Zyzzybalouba; Aether) 2.Flowchart-- "Hero Wine" (Multipersonality Tabletop Vacation; Carrot Top) 3.Shape of the Rain-- "Spring" (Unreleased Recordings '66-'73; Hi-Note) 4.Krom Lek-- "Merfolk" (Collective Conscience; Stone Premonitions) 5.Hawkwind-- "Moonglum" (Live Chronicles; Griffin/GWR) 6.Alien Dream-- "Distorted Realms" (Dogon Dance) 7.Magma-- "The Last 7 Minutes" (Attahk; Charly/Decal/Tomato) 8.Sabotage Opportunistic Deaf-Mutism-- "Sabotage" (Otolithen; Cuneiform) 9.Mountain Mirrors-- "Sidewinder" (Improvisations from a Void; thanks to Jeff!) 10.Neutral Milk Hotel-- "Where You'll Find Me Now/Avery Island April 1st/Garden Head-Leave Me Alone" (Avery Island: 1995; Merge) 11.Loopian Zu-- "Dementalinger" (Valley of the Brains; Warped and Wound) 12.Cauldron-- "The City" (The Sancuary Suite; Wild Places) 13.Angelo Badalamenti-- "The Pink Room" (Fire Walk With Me Soundtrack; WB) 14.Plexus-- "G-Forz" (ST'd; Mother West) 15.Frank Zappa-- "Excentrifugal Forz/title-track" (Apostrophe'; Rykodisc) 16.Silver Apples-- "The Owl" (The Garden; Whirlybird) 17.Amon Duul II-- title-track (Yeti; Repetoire) thanks, Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 19 23:12:34 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 23:12:34 EDT Subject: OFF: Len Del Rio Message-ID: In a message dated 4/19/02 3:03:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, coral at APORT.RU writes: > Hi, > > this musician took part in many projects, just wanted to know did I miss > something. > > Zero Gravity, Anubian Lights, Pressurehed, Nik Turner's band, Spiral Realms, > Brain (?), Farflung (?)... anything else? > > Alisa Only other thing I can think of would be a new release, an EP by Lydia Lunch and the Anubian Lights (Crippled Dick Hotwax! Records). Gave it a cursory play-through last week..."Naz-Bar" type music accompanied by LL's vocals...not too bad... his involvement w/Farflung and the Brain have been pretty negligible... except his _influence_ on the latter was probably substantial. Chuck From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Sat Apr 20 04:35:13 2002 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 09:35:13 +0100 Subject: OFF: Beware dodgy mails Message-ID: Whilst each of the infected e-mails I've received have appeared to be from different sources, the warning I've received from my ISP on each occasion has been the same (bar date/time, obviously). This is it: "The email from mangosteve at lineone.net (04/20/2002 07:41:53) contained the WORM_KLEZ.G virus. We recommend that you do not open this attachment unless you have suitable virus-scanning software installed." The interesting question is why, having detected a virus, my ISP still forward the offending e-mail. Dave >More than one of us are receiving mails either from non-existent people or >appearing to be from people on this and the BOC mailing list with titles >connected with a new website and with JPG files attached. At least one of >the files I got had a PIF of the same name (format seems to be >clarke100[1].jpg and clarke100[1].pif). From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sat Apr 20 07:15:38 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:15:38 +0800 Subject: OFF: Virus alert Message-ID: Hi All Well I've had about 50 hit me and it seems a few got thru and is messing about with everyone on the address book. Sorry if I've infected you. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Si Halley" To: Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 3:31 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Virus alert > Subject: Re: OFF: Virus alert > > > > 2 or 3 emails have been caught this evening by my virus software, so an > > update of sigs and a scan said I was clear, should I be worried that thats > > my old email address (the return one) > > I`ve had about 10 so far this afternoon > > Si > > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sat Apr 20 07:22:12 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:22:12 +0800 Subject: OFF: Virus alert Message-ID: Have done Doug. It happened on a comp we borrowed while getting this one fixed. Scary stuff. Hope everyone is okay. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 2:55 AM Subject: OFF: Virus alert > Did anyone else here receive the "A funny website" virus from > ? (Fake return address: pwibrew13 > , with press.bat attachment.) > > Bill & Cynthia - you may want to disinfect your computer! > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Apr 20 08:22:32 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mc) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 06:22:32 -0600 Subject: HW Yule Ritual secret cult update In-Reply-To: <200204191855.OAA06722@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: I have some nice pics in a series of REMASTERED art for the Yule Ritual CD (by Hawkwind in case you are a new fan, etc.) including a sweet looking folder for mail-order that is Hawkwind dedicated I would like to have a folder in my own collection, so I guess my lack of a sampler puts me in panic mode to make a call or send a mail and throw some names around if anybody wants me to (E)mail the pics to them, I would be glad to (I think), just ask... mike c thanks to "big bad boss man" for the breakfast in America From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sat Apr 20 13:42:48 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:42:48 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] BAND IRC CHAT (fwd) Message-ID: didn't see this come through yet on BOC-L, hence my forward ;-) (the date, btw, is 2002, not 2000 ;-) ) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rik Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:37:06 +0100 Subject: Re: [Hawkwind] BAND IRC CHAT To: Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com Reply-To: Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: GREETINGS STAR WARRIORS + + + + + There will be an official band chat on the Hawkwind Dalnet IRC channel #hawkwind.org.uk at 17:00 BST (GMT+1) on Thursday 24th April 2000 For details of how to log on, and to download a customised mIRC HW IRC client please visit Mission Control at the link below: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm We need a few volunteers to help with certain things at the festival... at least 6 people with CURRENT UK first aid certificates... and some other helpers that will be announced soon..... 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Apr 22 15:08:13 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 20:08:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim In-Reply-To: <002601c1cabb$180413a0$93be7ad5@k1e5z4>; from twilson@GMX.CO.UK on Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 06:15:13PM -0000 Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 06:15:13PM -0000, Tony Wilson typed out: > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 03:38:15AM -0000, Richard Lockwood typed out: > > > > > > After hearing so many good things about Mr Quimby's beard, I've finally > > > sat down and downloaded some tracks. Hmm. Splendid. If I'd never heard > > > Hawkwind, or Alien Planetscapes, I'd think it was fantastic. > > > > > > Maybe I need to get back to smoking those funny big herbal cigarettes > > > (Something I've not done for many a year now) but to me it sounds like a > > > bunch of blokes doing a very good Hawkwind impersonation. > > > > > > Emperor's new clothes, or have I missed the point? > > > > That was more or less the impression they gave at the Forum gig, > > but I think there's a shortage of such stuff around so I didn't really > > mind. The vocal styles are different, I don't think Hawkwind ever had a > > singer that sounded like that, but I'm yet to be sure whether or not I > > like it... (And I still haven't got any AP so don't know how that > > compares) What it lacks, to me, is the edge that HW seem to have got from > > not really knowing what it was they were doing. So it's as smooth as the > > later stuff, _Electric Tepee_ onwards, but has a feel more like _Live '79_ > > in terms of togetherness and structure. Not the ideal combination then, > > but still very good. Depends whether you're searching for something new or > > you don't mind getting the same trip recycled. I had given up expecting > > new things of the British side of the genre until I happened on _Return to > > Earth_ by Starfield which is certainly getting there. (I owe Captain Black > > a review still... ) Yours, > > Not again............ > Is there some kind of competition going on that I've never been told about?? > "Hawkwind VS. Every other band....." > Can't you accept that spacerock is a genre of music and not something that > belongs solely to Hawkwind, Richard ??? I can. I think it currently belongs, if to anyone, to Farflung, ST37 and possibly to Star Nation though I'm not quite sure yet and a small portion should be allotted to Starfield for future exploitation. I think Hawkwind have earned their patch but they're not expanding it (which is a same because they could, with this line-up they so could--I'm trying not to expect *anything* of the next album lest I be disappointed, although you see I'm already expecting a next album so they can disappoint me anyway if they choose. But anyway). > I know this will win me no friends but AP !!! come on, they've had a couple > of ok'ish albums and the rest of their stuff is just self indulgent dribble > with poorly played synths over the top. And if you're looking for something > new you'll not find it on the Starfield album (which btw I really like). I > don't think I've ever heard a band sound as close to HW as they do Jon. I put it to you that Starfield have touches of Spacemen 3 and Tangerine Dream about them which mark them off slightly, and also that Krel, as I've posted here at length before, sounds a damn sight more like Hawkwind copyism than they do. > As for Mr Quimby's Beard, have either of you heard any of their albums ??? I > can't imagine you have or you'd know that they draw from many other musical > influences as well as HW. No. I've seen half a gig and I have a CD-R of live stuff. This has not made it necessary for me to get their albums, though they have found their way onto my list, just not urgently. There's a lot of Amon Duul II and stoner I think is more likely to change my life, to pick two things out of the air. > I'll put my neck on the line and say.... I think Mr Quimby's Beard are > currently offering more to my favourite genre of music (Spacerock) than any > other band including Hawkwind (who I've loved for many years), and that > their album "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of." is the best and most > complete album I've heard since long before Electric Tepee. As a spacerock album, I assume, not any album at all? I'd say mine was indubitably Farflung's _The Belief Module_. Though their _25,000 Feet Per Second_ comes in not far behind. Mind you, what little live stuff I've heard of theirs has not come up to scratch either, so I may be comparing unfair bases, but if you've heard this album I'd love to know how you think they compare. Omnia Opera's two albums would both follow in there close behind too. > When you see them live as at the forum, supporting someone like Hawkwind, it > is unfair to even try to compare the 2 acts, as, the headliner (HW) will > have all afternoon to sound check (and rehearse) the opener (MQB) will be > given (max) 20 mins if any time at all. The headliner is drawing from a > catalogue of songs which some of us grew up listening to, the opener is > playing you songs you're hearing for the first time. The headliner has 2 > hours to impress, the opener 40 mins. The headliner is performing to a > stoned or drunk audience, the opener to people still arriving and sober. The > headliner has a full light show to add to the atmosphere and draw you in, > the opener has a couple of spot lights (if they are lucky). The headliner > has a truck load of expensive equipment and back ground personnel to ensure > they sound great, the opener has so little room on stage that they are > forced to down scale and use the minimum of equipment......I could > continue.... and they still left a BIG impression on me.. I was impressed. I was impressed with how the two songs I heard all of both wrapped in two different songs by other people (`Lighthouse' and something I forget, and `Free Fall' wrapped inside `Saucerful of Secrets'). And one of the four numbers I could hear was Pink Floyd too, so I wasn't even accusing them of total Hawkwind copyism (which is why I reserve top slot in that field for Krel--but I don't mind that, because the early 80s Hawkwind line-up, which is what _Ad Astra_ sounds like, didn't record enough albums.) The CD-R I have of theirs actually impresses me less, because the singing strikes me much worse, but it sounds less derivative. I'm not going to argue that they should have made more or less of a personal impression on either of us because that's a matter of how our brains are built; but I do as you'll have noticed have a few differences of opinion with you which might be more empirical. Anyway. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Mon Apr 22 21:54:37 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 20:54:37 -0500 Subject: OFF: boc-l down? Message-ID: Is the server down? I haven't received anything for 3 days. John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Apr 23 12:51:01 2002 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:51:01 +0200 Subject: OFF:Test Message-ID: No mails for 3 days now... From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Apr 23 17:47:12 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:47:12 -0500 Subject: OFF: test Message-ID: is boc-l alive again? Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Wed Apr 24 07:20:48 2002 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (Nick English) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:20:48 UT Subject: OFF: New Motorhead Message-ID: I'm liking this disc a lot, although not as much as Overnight Sensation or Snakebite Love. Two weeks after I first heard it, "Walk a Crooked Mile" refuses to leave my head. One question, though: Why does Lemmy do all his own backing vocals? Are Mikkey and Phil not interested, or is it an ego thing? Surprisingly enough, I think "The Game" is a very strong track, even though it was written as theme music for WWF wrestler Triple H. Lyrically, Lemmy is still near top of his game, although some passages are slightly more cheesy than usual. It's refreshing, though, that he remains one of the few over-50 rockers who's still as pissed off as the young kids. Lemmy wastes little time reflecting on his life as a jet-setting rock star, opting instead to rail against all the crappiness in the world. To the uninitiated, it might seem as though Lemmy was trying to tap into the "angry young metal" genre. . . but all those bands today, I think, owe HIM a debt of gratitude. BTW. . . I recently read that Ozzy sold all his Nazi artifacts to Lemmy. In the article, Lemmy said he wouldn't make a very good Nazi because his girlfriend is black. Who is this girlfriend? Is she the chick from that "Skunk whatever-it-is" band? --Nick From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Apr 24 18:41:13 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:41:13 -0500 Subject: OFF: hullo? Message-ID: ...can anyone see me? Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Tue Apr 23 13:25:41 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:25:41 +0100 Subject: XHawkwind Message-ID: Yo, Following recent weird planetary alignments my sonic detectors have picked up future echos of the Space Ritual eminating from Wrexham. But between me and Wrexham is a couple of ranges of mountain and I fear the drive units of my silver (actually its brown) machine will fail before I get there. Is there anyone I can meet somewhere between Bristol and Cardiff who has a combustion engine capable of the journey and who don't mind giving me a lift? I'm sure we can come to some sort of arraingement. More details can be found on the eather, try http://www.xhawkwind.com It looks good, weird and very wonderful! Chris -- Greasy Truckers Party on the Road 2002 XHawkwind Tractor / The Way We Live Wrexham Psychedelic Party - 18th May Yales Central Station From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 24 21:55:06 2002 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:55:06 EDT Subject: OFF: New Motorhead Message-ID: In a message dated 4/24/2002 6:40:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM writes: > Lemmy wastes little time reflecting on his life as a jet-setting rock star, because he wasted little time BEING a jet-setting rock star... bobm From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed Apr 24 22:01:12 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:01:12 -0400 Subject: HW: HAWKWIND IRC CHAT Message-ID: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: GREETINGS STAR WARRIORS + + + + + There will be an official band chat on the Hawkwind Dalnet IRC channel #hawkwind.org.uk at 17:00 BST (GMT+1) on Thursday 25th April 2002 For details of how to log on, and to download a customised mIRC HW IRC client please visit Mission Control at the link below: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm We need a few volunteers to help with certain things at the festival... at least 6 people with CURRENT UK first aid certificates... and some other helpers that will be announced soon..... Full details on the above Hawkspace. MESSAGE ENDS + + + + :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Apr 25 02:12:15 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mc) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 00:12:15 -0600 Subject: OFF: New Motorhead In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >because he wasted little time BEING a jet-setting rock star... >bobm yep...time for Phil to get in on the action....got up closer to him than any of the many shows I've been to.....great ....needs a crown.... subject change: Blizzard-Of-Ozzy's-dog-littered-MtV-time-share property....yes Keith...the trash and the dog CENSORED continual mess won't be able to last, but I think as soon as Ozzy adjusts to the TV and comfort with it, it will mutate into even better....Ozzy's for real (IMO) and therefore it is great nonetheless...(listwoman) Laura says the next season is in the British home..maybe Tony will come over and they will argue on camera for us or act like pals, etc, and tell about how Gillan acted up over the Born Again art and mix... I'll stick to my "purist" Sabbath beliefs... m From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Apr 25 05:33:44 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:33:44 -0400 Subject: New Motorhead Message-ID: I heard that girl had died a few years ago. My friend had been to his apartment and said all there was, was nazi stuff everywhere in cases. Supposedly a very impressive collection. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick English" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 7:20 AM Subject: OFF: New Motorhead > I'm liking this disc a lot, although not as much as Overnight Sensation or Snakebite Love. Two weeks after I first heard it, "Walk a Crooked Mile" refuses to leave my head. One question, though: Why does Lemmy do all his own backing vocals? Are Mikkey and Phil not interested, or is it an ego thing? > > Surprisingly enough, I think "The Game" is a very strong track, even though it was written as theme music for WWF wrestler Triple H. > > Lyrically, Lemmy is still near top of his game, although some passages are slightly more cheesy than usual. It's refreshing, though, that he remains one of the few over-50 rockers who's still as pissed off as the young kids. Lemmy wastes little time reflecting on his life as a jet-setting rock star, opting instead to rail against all the crappiness in the world. To the uninitiated, it might seem as though Lemmy was trying to tap into the "angry young metal" genre. . . but all those bands today, I think, owe HIM a debt of gratitude. > > BTW. . . I recently read that Ozzy sold all his Nazi artifacts to Lemmy. In the article, Lemmy said he wouldn't make a very good Nazi because his girlfriend is black. Who is this girlfriend? Is she the chick from that "Skunk whatever-it-is" band? > > --Nick From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Thu Apr 25 06:07:32 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 06:07:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: Seeking Thomas Leonhardt Message-ID: [sorry to bother the list but I'm posting on behalf of Jan Geerts of Man In Space. If Thomas is on the list or anyone can pass a message that would be great.] Man In Space is trying to open a hailing channel with Thomas Leonhardt. Astronauts who know his whereabouts, please give him our coordinats: maninspace at pandora.be. Thanks From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Thu Apr 25 06:08:43 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 06:08:43 -0400 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations April 2002 issue online NOW!!! Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com The April 2002 issue of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock Exploration is now online. Aural Innovations covers spacerock, psychedelia, electronic music, plus the more eclectic forms of jazz and progressive rock. See the index of this issue's contents below. The April 2002 issue of Aural Innovations includes: Mani Neumeier/Guru Guru (Interview) Surface of Eceon (Review/Interview) JFK Jr Royal Airforce/Billy Syndrome (Review/Interview) Hal McGee (Review/Interview) Motorpsycho (Interview) Marshan (Interview) King Black Acid (Review/Interview) Ludwig Kramer (Interview) Gas Giant and Good Witch Of The South - German Tour Diary, February 2002 The Revenge of the Dark Stars: A RealAudio Attack Nostra-Rogus: Through The Headscope Concert Reviews Recent Releases from Woronzow Recent Releases from Swamp Room Records Recent Releases from Mandragora Records Recent Releases from Meteor City Releases from Free City Media Recent Releases from Summersteps Recent Releases from Fonal Records Recent Releases from Diatonis Recent Releases from Hi-Note Music Recent Releases from Subversive Records Releases from Umbrella Recordings Recent Releases from InstrumenTales Records Recent Releases from Neurosis Records Recent Releases from Lunasolace Productions Recent Releases from Magna Carta Recent Releases from Tone Center Records And a GAZILLION reviews!!! You can go directly to the new issue at: http://aural-innovations.com/issues/issue19/issue19.html Don't forget to check out Aural Innovations Radio for the best sounds on the planet and the Aural Innovations CD mail order for some of the best space rock and psychedelia that you've never heard. All the above can be found by setting your vessel's controls for http://Aural-Innovations.com From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Apr 25 07:59:15 2002 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 07:59:15 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind in this months Record Collector Message-ID: I thought id let you al know thats theres 10 pages dedicated to hawkwind in this months record collector. Loads of interviews with band and associated people plus a run down of all of hawkwinds 70's album output. cheers colm From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Apr 25 08:35:12 2002 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:35:12 +0100 Subject: New Motorhead Message-ID: > I heard that girl had died a few years ago Nah, just her band Skunk Anansie, which split up in the middle of last year. Her name is Skin, and she's been working with loads of different people since. As for her and the Lemster being an item - I was given to believe she was a lady who liked ladies, and perhaps mightn't want to be shacking up with a warty 50-something bloke... But who knows, i could be wrong (it's happened before...)? From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 25 08:22:19 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:22:19 +0800 Subject: OFF: Virus alert Message-ID: > mc chuckles here, this from a man who would light the city with burning macs > hope there is a beer or 2 left Bill.... > send more BOC-L survived. That's good. I wish I could say the same thing. My mother-in-law's comp is riddled with virii. We all know now the that the 19th of each month the internet world will go crazy when 4 virii assault us. Good to get the big comp back. It's armed and dangerous. Plenty of beer in the fridge Mike. There always is :-) Bill From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 25 10:00:14 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:00:14 +0100 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who [does Bono think he is] In-Reply-To: <200203212116.QAA00115@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, K Henderson wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 08:12:38AM -0500, Brian Halligan wrote: > > >BTW, I didn't realise the Oscars were mandatory viewing. Is this some > >case of "we control the horizontal; we control the vertical" going on > >here that I don't know about? > > Yes. I guess you didn't watch 60 Minutes this past Sunday, where Story 1 > was about John Nash and the Beautiful Mind movie (nominated for 2 zillion > Oscars) and Story 3 was about Dame Judi Dench, nominated as best actress for > a movie that nobody has apparently seen, 'cause it really hasn't even been > widely-released yet. It's ridiculous - you *can't* avoid it, without > hibernating in an underground bunker with the shadow gov't (not the shadow > gov't mule, which would only occur in times of Democratic leadership). And > what's even more peculiar is that CBS (60 Minutes' network of course) isn't > even showing the Oscars, so why are they promoting it? Probably just for > the ratings boost for their own show....but then of course, with the way > corporations are ever-increasingly tied together, it wouldn't surprise me if > CBS and the studios that made these two movies both were under one > even-larger multi-media enterprise and so the whole network of CBS is used > as a marketing tool. I forget who owns who these days....another day, > another merger. You could try, um, not watching television if you don't like the way the media feeds off itself and celebrity status. Follow the wise words of Harvey Bainbridge and "just pick up the heavy ashtray..." > Sorry for speaking so blatantly off-topic, but nobody seems to have anything > at the moment to say about BOC/HW. Hey, when someone does it drops like a dead duck at the moment anyway. There'll be a flurry of BOC chatter when they hit Europe, and some HW chatter when the Passport Holders' Festival actually gets off the ground or if the band chat reveals anything about the album-in-progress I assume, till then we can only try and stay afloat in the sea of OFFness. > I did notice that Secret Treaties was No. 47 on the list of Rolling Stones' > Top 50 Coolest Albums of All-time (whatever the hell that's supposed to > represent). I'm decidedly uncool, 'cause I only own 3 of these 50, and > that's out of about 3000 CDs that I have. ST was one of them of course, the > others being The Beatles' Revolver (of which I only like one song) and Roxy > Music's For Your Pleasure. V.U. showed up at No. 1 amazingly enough, but it > just happened to be an album (WL,WH) I don't have (although I have a > compilation with tracks from it). I just ignore these things. The writers have to consider their readership, so even if they were complete psych-heads they must know that if they submit anything with more than forty per cent of the stuff in *our* collections the editors will just bin it because only three people in the readership will care. For gods' sake stop worrying about whether you're with it, Keith, the masses have lousy taste and trying to match it will cause premature hair loss and worry lines :-) Yours, Jon ObCDR: Anubian Lights - _Live with Nik Turner_ -- "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 25 10:18:29 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:18:29 +0100 Subject: OFF: Stoner Rock In-Reply-To: <200203220034.TAA04399@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, K Henderson wrote: > Um, anybody heard the new batch of Stoner Rock discs hitting the > marketplace? Orange Goblin has Coup de Grace out, the Heads have a new one > (out yet?), and the LA groups are still greatly active (Nebula, Fu Manchu, > etc.). I'm tiring a bit from that whole scene now, since there's too many > bands doing pretty much the same bloody thing, so I would like to know if > anyone's doing something particularly different and spaced-out. Stoner scene is taking a bit of a beating what with the sudden demise of Man's Ruin (though some of that material appears to be available for recycling as Nebula have just issued a CD containing their first two EPs... ). But there is some interesting stuff going on. Nebula and Fu Manchu and all the bands that wnat to be Skynyrd (especially Sixty Watt Shaman) are all going OK, but not necessarily breaking new ground of course. Spirit Caravan are still interesting because of how mournful Wino's voice sounds, but even they seem to be aiming for Metal Hammer compilation CDs with one or two tracks. I'm also noticing a new subheading in the retro sort of field of stoner, bands that want to be Mountain. In this group Five Horse Johnson and Abdullah feature large. As far as stoner space crossover goes I'm not seeing much *new*: Gas Giant's _Pleasant Journey in Heavy Tunes_ is required listening but it's been a while since they issued it and I've not heard of any new output from them in their drummer-depleted state. Electric Wizard are another obvious one, space doom they have called it and fair enough, they are the extreme in that description. You may not be aware of a group who go by the unpronounceable name of Sunn 0))), who are based on Goatsnake but basically have three people on bass producing what they call "power bass ambient drone". It's not as interesting as it should be but it certainly works, and the new album just out (or imminent) has two trcaks remixed by Merzbow which is going to add that "interest" even if it's awful... But all this is still very far from being enough. There was that Last Laugh project which spun out of DarXtar which was supposed to be something along this crossover line, anyone ever hear it? Meanwhile I see with some horror that Queens of the Stone Age have changed their line-up *again* (I make this the fourth time since they last managed to get an album out) and the new drummer is... Dave bloody Grohl. There's a new link for everyone: of course QotSA are HW- linkable! Guest musician and producer is Chris Goss, of Masters of Reality, which band once had a Mr G. Baker on drums, bing, there in two removes, and now to Nirvana in three :-) But really, the answer to the "what's interesting in stoner" question is always the same, not that any of you have the sense (or attention span? I've just seen how long this post is getting) to listen :-) It's Clutch. Get thou to and see for yourself (I sure hope thay have some downloads there now I've said that) or instead, purchase _Elephant Riders_ forthwith. You will not have wasted your money. Yours, Jon ObTapeOfLP: Golden Earring - _Moontan_ -- "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 25 10:21:12 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:21:12 +0100 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who ["does Bono" and so on] In-Reply-To: <7d.244771af.29cc2194@aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Michael W Blackman wrote: > If we can device the power to destroy a planet sure on the flip side > we have the power to make it better a million fold. But destroying it only takes four or five people like G. W. Bush whereas making it better needs the whole planet to be nice right-thinking people. I know which side I'd prefer to bet on. Remain in the shelters and use your cocoons. Yours, Jon -- "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 25 10:22:42 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:22:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Bono, HW and Tibet In-Reply-To: <009801c1d25c$4009e8e0$29766291@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Donald en Jessica wrote: > If Bono can influence the higher politics to make living on this planet al > little better for all, why then I can't find the logo of the Tibet Support > Group anymore on Hawkwind releases??? Because that logo was put there by EBS, the famous Hawkwind's own label, now sadly frozen in a time-trap, because they cared. Whereas current HW product is coming out on Voiceprint who have not so far been shown to care about anything very much. HTH, yours, Jon -- "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Apr 25 10:57:02 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:57:02 EDT Subject: OFF: Virus alert Message-ID: Hang loads of garlic pods around your PC tower and viruses won't be a problem ------------------------ mc chuckles here, this from a man who would light the city with burning macs hope there is a beer or 2 left Bill.... send more Laura, you better teach me the ULTIMATE viral shield b4 I am going near that pc....looks like a lot of headaches from the outside any tentative titles to the "new" HW album in progress From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Apr 25 11:01:03 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:01:03 EDT Subject: OFF: Virus alert Message-ID: Dirty bugga - In a message dated Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:33:19 AEDT, Bill & Cynthia writes: > Hi All > > Well I've had about 50 hit me and it seems a few got thru and is messing > about with everyone on the address book. Sorry if I've infected you. > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Si Halley" > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 3:31 AM > Subject: Re: OFF: Virus alert > > > > Subject: Re: OFF: Virus alert > > > > > > > 2 or 3 emails have been caught this evening by my virus software, so an > > > update of sigs and a scan said I was clear, should I be worried that > thats > > > my old email address (the return one) > > > > I`ve had about 10 so far this afternoon > > > > Si > > > > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Apr 25 11:06:14 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:06:14 EDT Subject: OFF: Virus alert Message-ID: No problem here :-) In a message dated Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:33:40 AEDT, Bill & Cynthia writes: > Have done Doug. It happened on a comp we borrowed while getting this one > fixed. Scary stuff. Hope everyone is okay. > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Pearson" > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 2:55 AM > Subject: OFF: Virus alert > > > > Did anyone else here receive the "A funny website" virus from > > ? (Fake return address: pwibrew13 > > , with press.bat attachment.) > > > > Bill & Cynthia - you may want to disinfect your computer! > > > > -Doug > > jasret at mindspring.com > > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Apr 25 11:09:01 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:09:01 EDT Subject: OFF: hullo? Message-ID: I can see you - is it safe to remove my gas mask and anti nuke suit now? Viruses gawn? In a message dated Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:40:19 AEDT, Arin Komins writes: > ...can anyone see me? > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM Thu Apr 25 11:08:50 2002 From: Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:08:50 -0600 Subject: OFF: Virus alert Message-ID: A stash of holy water isn't a bad idea either. Laura Waesche Corporate Express Document & Print Management 1721 Moon Lake Blvd., Suite 305 Hoffman Estates, IL 60194 888-252-1526 laura.waesche at cexp.com -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 9:57 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Virus alert Hang loads of garlic pods around your PC tower and viruses won't be a problem ------------------------ mc chuckles here, this from a man who would light the city with burning macs hope there is a beer or 2 left Bill.... send more Laura, you better teach me the ULTIMATE viral shield b4 I am going near that pc....looks like a lot of headaches from the outside any tentative titles to the "new" HW album in progress From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Apr 25 11:25:31 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (steven lindas) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:25:31 -0400 Subject: New Motorhead Message-ID: Does anyone have her picture? I'd like to see what she looks like. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Allen" To: Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: Re: New Motorhead > > I heard that girl had died a few years ago > > Nah, just her band Skunk Anansie, which split up in the middle of last year. > Her name is Skin, and she's been working with loads of different people > since. > As for her and the Lemster being an item - I was given to believe she was a > lady who liked ladies, and perhaps mightn't want to be shacking up with a > warty 50-something bloke... > > But who knows, i could be wrong (it's happened before...)? From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Thu Apr 25 11:28:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:28:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Record Collector Message-ID: I'm sure many have seen this, but Record Collector magazine in the UK have a Space Ritual cover and a big feature on Hawkwind at the moment. Happy reading! ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Apr 25 12:16:12 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:16:12 EDT Subject: HW Chat - whats happenin Message-ID: Was logged in - got bumped - now can't get back in??? From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Apr 25 12:19:21 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:19:21 EDT Subject: OFF Re: New Motorhead OFF Message-ID: Long hair - two boobies and a shapley butt? In a message dated Fri, 26 Apr 2002 02:20:10 AEDT, steven lindas writes: > Does anyone have her picture? I'd like to see what she looks like. Cheers > STEPHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Allen" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: New Motorhead > > > > > I heard that girl had died a few years ago > > > > Nah, just her band Skunk Anansie, which split up in the middle of last > year. > > Her name is Skin, and she's been working with loads of different people > > since. > > As for her and the Lemster being an item - I was given to believe she was > a > > lady who liked ladies, and perhaps mightn't want to be shacking up with a > > warty 50-something bloke... > > > > But who knows, i could be wrong (it's happened before...)? From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Apr 25 12:47:08 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:47:08 -0400 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who [does Bono think he is] In-Reply-To: ; from jjarrett@CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK on Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 03:00:14PM +0100 Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 03:00:14PM +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: > For gods' sake stop worrying about whether > you're with it, Keith, the masses have lousy taste [...] In other words, you're not with it at all, and the rest of us aren't either -- and that's a thing to be proud of! :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. - Anonymous Especially on the 19th. - me From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Apr 25 13:10:28 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:10:28 -0500 Subject: HW Chat - whats happenin In-Reply-To: <31.25f2bc70.29f985cd@aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Michael W Blackman wrote: :Subject: HW Chat - whats happenin : :Was logged in - got bumped - now can't get back in??? should be ok now....... Email Rik or myself direct if you still need aid. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Apr 25 13:40:40 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:40:40 -0500 Subject: Band chat raw log Message-ID: Hi folks, This is the raw log from the recent banc chat (earlier this am for me ;-) ) Rik will have a prettier version of this up on Mission Control (http://www.hawkwind.org.uk) soon. Thanks, Arin (begin band chat) *** Guest61778 is now known as HAWKPEOPLE * turban-guerilla is back Yes....questions please How's the new album coming on? * turban-guerilla hands out some more of those imaganary cyber beers out to everyone *** Mode change "+m" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK Hello folks....I've just put the channel into moderated mode we'll be giving people voice one by one. *** Mode change "+v Keef" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK Keef, you are up Hello. Album coming along nicely thankyou Lot's of new stuff then? *** Mode change "-v Keef" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK Yes all new numbers *** Mode change "+v Elric_Of_Melnibone" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK Elric -- you are up Are the rumours correct that a trip was made to Australia recently to scout for venues and how did it go?? Exciting, dynamic, resless, pushing the envelope, wonderful words, prodding the perametres Yes rumours true *** Mode change "-v Elric_Of_Melnibone" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK *** Mode change "+v magnu2000de" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ We want to come in UK winter Congratulations for the best HW tour (November 2001) I've ever heard When will be the new CD released ? Where are the tracks from the 1990 live CD from ?? *** Mode change "-v magnu2000de" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK Rock city Nottingham Release of new cd when we finish making it! <^Hawkbot^> and the other venue? *** Mode change "+v cosmicdolphin" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Whatever Happened to Andy Dunkley? + Dave would you ever do straight acoustic tour maybe with Huw and Simon? :-) Don't know, ask Rob Ayling at Voiceprint *** Mode change "-v cosmicdolphin" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK *** Mode change "+v gwion" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ <^Hawkbot^> NOTE:There is a tracklost of the new release on MC Is the new album based on the Frendz series / Time of the Hawklords books? If we stayed in good hotels and were paid properly then yes wqe would <^Hawkbot^> Tracklist even *** Mode change "-v gwion" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK *** Mode change "+v linuxchaos" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Have you read David Icke? A lot of the subject matter of his books seems to reflect Hawkwind lyrics *** Mode change "-v linuxchaos" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK Loosely based and we are in collaberation with Mike Moorcock and Butterworth We are aware of him <^Hawkbot^> Who is there at the moment Hawkpeople? *** Mode change "+v fixnekep" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Simon, Richard, Ali and Dave *** Mode change "+v ProfColin" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ What are the "tapes of old material" that you have found? Are they live recordings? *** Mode change "-v fixnekep" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK *** Mode change "-v ProfColin" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK Ahh, you mean the secret tapes *** Mode change "+v `Alisa" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Yes they are live <`Alisa> do you plan to make a Europena tour? *** ProfColin has left channel #hawkwind.org.uk <`Alisa> European... and when? Yes *** Mode change "-v `Alisa" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK *** Mode change "+v ferg" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ As soon as we can arrange it and it is practical, we are working on it now Any work being done with William Orbit ? Any news on the old BBC footage? any news on the bbc Documentary ? playing anymore summer shows *** Mode change "-v ferg" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK Yes planning summer shows and bbc doc is still ongoing *** magnu2000de has left channel #hawkwind.org.uk *** Mode change "+v MAHKNO" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ What are you using as the main recorder for the new material? Simon needs to go in a minute, so any questions for him? *** Mode change "-v MAHKNO" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK PC Logic Audio <^Hawkbot^> CHANNEL is being demoderated for 1 minute *** Mode change "-m" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK *** m1cans (Micans at 62.6.65.100) has joined channel #hawkwind.org.uk How much input has Mike Morrcock contributed towards the new album so far? How much of the new material do you think you will perform at the Devon festival? <^Hawkbot^> please ask questions for simon... wil you play a set based on the destruction of the death generator at the festival in july? and can we still get tickets? *** magnu2000de (bernhard.p at p5087CA31.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined channel #Hawkwind.org.uk *** kpgdmr (~KEDRLON at 65.31.101.244) has joined channel #hawkwind.org.uk folks, just questions for simon now, please Simon - what solo projects atr you doing? Any projects with tony hill at all...high tide? Simon, What are you doing as far as solo work goes? will you be playing bradford we havent seen you there for 11 years and are there any plans on relesing the hawkestra video yet? New solo album and no not with Tony Hill simon - what's the best keyboard you've used? How's Bertie?:) ok folks, we are going to remoderate the channel now, so hawkpeople have a chance to answer..... *** Mode change "+m" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK A Steinway Grand Yes to the other questions *** Mode change "+v kitthehammer" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ any chance of dreadzone, tony Mission Controlphee and blue aeroplanes playing festy, what happened to graham coxon at xmas gig? *** Mode change "-v kitthehammer" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK He had to go to Scandinavia due to illness *** Mode change "+v turban-guerilla" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Band lineup for festie not confirmed yet *** Strawb has left channel #hawkwind.org.uk *** Mode change "+o Keef" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ What bout other things apart from bands? *** Mode change "+v cosmicdolphin" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ *** Mode change "+v Guest74045" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Dave can you remember, did you ever record anything on 16th March 1970? workshops, drumming, art, food kids area jazz, etc *** Mode change "-v cosmicdolphin" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ sounds fun will you be playing bradford we havent seen you there for 11 years and are there any plans on relesing the hawkestra video yet?whos filming the leeds irish centre gig last nov? No idea *** Mode change "-v turban-guerilla" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK *** Mode change "+v Hawkwindfish" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Hi Simon Richard, Ali and Dave - Does 2002 still look good for an Australian tour? *** Mode change "-v Hawkwindfish" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK Australia still looks good *** Mode change "+v m1cans" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ any chance of live poetry at festival - John Cooper Clarke etc. ? *** Mode change "-v m1cans" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK *** Mode change "+v linuxchaos" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Will there be a Wickerman full of ozit CDs? *** Mode change "+v katweezel" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ will you play a set from the death generator at the festival? Nik Turner will not allow release of Hawkestra tapes because he played so badly on it Is there any chance you can rerelease Hawklords on CD and the First two solo albums? Maybe poetry *** Mode change "-v linuxchaos" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK *** Mode change "+v Elric_Of_Melnibone" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Re; Logic Audio. Is that Emagic L.A.? - Platinum perhaps? How long have you been using it? I record with the Gold version and think its great.... are there tickets left for festival? Wickerman full of ozit! *** Mode change "-v Elric_Of_Melnibone" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK *** Mode change "-v katweezel" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK *** Mode change "+v magnu2000de" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Odd tracks from DG Any gigs in Germany this year ?? Any chance to hear DAMNATION ALLEY live this year ?? *** Mode change "-v magnu2000de" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK *** Mode change "-v magnu2000de" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ *** Mode change "-v Guest74045" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Ours is the diamond version (customised) *** Mode change "+v gwion" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Possibly D Alley *** Mode change "+v katweezel" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ I'm bringing my kids to the fest - it seems to be a family event - my son's a keen drummer - wiill he be able to have a go? *** Mode change "-v gwion" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK do you really hate nik turner? Possibly Hawklords Yes at Richards drum workshop *** Mode change "-v katweezel" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK No, but he hates us *** Mode change "+v ferg" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ *** Mode change "+v turban-guerilla" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Gigs in Germany planned why does nik hate you? and what as happened to ron and jerry then ? *** Mode change "-v turban-guerilla" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK *** Mode change "+v `Alisa" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ <`Alisa> did you find a proper record label for new album? *** Mode change "-v `Alisa" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK got any news you want to share, that you havent told us yet ? *** Mode change "-v ferg" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ We think he is jealous of us for some reason, he cannot seem to do anything on his own merit. He should concentrate on playing under his own name with his own band instead of using the name Hawkwind and so decieving fans with bad material Not yet but EMI are interested *** Mode change "+v linuxchaos" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ No news we can think of Will Lemmy feature in the new/current project *** Mode change "-v linuxchaos" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK No *** Mode change "-v linuxchaos" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ He is too expensive <^Hawkbot^> CHANNEL WILL BE DEMODERATED BRIEFLY Please, try not to inundate Hawkpeople with too many questions all at once. Richard is also doing a fashion show at festie *** Mode change "-m" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK Any chance of 70's material being released on CD again? Would like to see QS&C re released Dave, do you ever still go busking or are tempted to? Or how about an unplugged album? Any plans to release more live stuff ?? Was the Nov. 2001 tour successfull for you ??? Dave? Are you gonna do a workshop at devon? ((Cheeky Question here...... I would love to jam with the band (one song?) one day?? (guitar player here) :-) So will Mike M. be reading onstage/on the album? And a DJ set how many more albums to do? do you wish you could live forever? does dave have a protege ie how much longer can his back hold out? *** Mode change "+m" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK Hi folks. We've remoderated to give Hawkpeople a chance to answer some of that last round of questions :-) *** ferg has left channel #Hawkwind.org.uk QS&C may be released soon *** FoFP (hw at atl5-ug2.publab.ed.ac.uk) has joined channel #Hawkwind.org.uk no unplugged album no more live releases planned at the mo *** Mode change "+v FoFP" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ Am I here? <^Hawkbot^> FoFP you have the chair ! <^Hawkbot^> ask a question....... Err, this is only my 2nd ever attempt at this so who else is in? <^Hawkbot^> please ask a question..... Mike M will be reading on album, but dont know about live as he has bad health Is there an album planned from the last tour? *** Mode change "-v FoFP" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ^Hawkbot^ *** Mode change "-v FoFP" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK Band must leave soon so anymore questions.....5 minutes Just Ali and Dave here now *** Mode change "-m" on channel #hawkwind.org.uk by ArinK <^Hawkbot^> CHANNEL WILL BE DEMODERATED OK folks. we are now demoderated. Will successful passport holders be notified about the festival individually by e-mail? Was the Nov. 2001 tour successfull for you ??? if I put new strings on me guitar can I jam with the band? do you know the rediculous money pxr5, hawklords and warrior are going for on ebay? dave- is ali the best bass player you've played with, or lemmy? we are all sorry to hear of micheal moorcocks bad health when you talk to him can you tell him all the hawkfans wish him well Ali - what future plans with Bedouin? No album planned from last tour Huh? What's happening with Mike M? can i have a backstage pass on the next tour pleze Gaz you can mail him at www.multiverse.org !! kozmik passport holders will be informed about tickets Dave what is your favourite film? I wonder if MM feels chuffed that the physicists are talking about multiverses as the standard model these dayas How much are they going for on ebay? Ali is best bass player if i apply for my passport next week is there still time to get a ticket <^Hawkbot^> ??????????????'s ! Warrior is going for 50quid I saw PXR5 go for 35 Dollars Beduin plans depend upon Hawkwind plans and that's just the CD I've bid on Warrior and it went as hi as $150 US Quark 25-40 pounds so I quit Agents/Earthed CD is $90 Spanish Silver Machine from 1972 going for ?60 in record Collector! hawklords impossible to find on cd I got that Sonic Attack poster, the one from the Ritual tour with the bloke with broken glasses i got daves 1st 2 solo albums on ebay for 12 note for em both I was chuffed bout that Still time for passports Q: Will the band be doing the Bikesjhow this Julty Ali's Bass playing kicks ass man - Hawkestra really blew me away - powerful or does the Devon thang mean that's not poss? Are there anyplans for emi to rerelease+remaster warrior? Must go now, any further questions will be answered later if you email us especially on sputnik stan at hawkestra mean bass ali Thanks. Thanks HAWKWIND!!!!! Cheers Thanks all Thank you HAWKWIND!!!!!!!! Thank you Hawkwind, for joining us today. cheers guys nice one Cheers< All the best!!!! bye!! cheers Long may you fly dudes ! thank you HAWKWIND have fun in the studio!!!!!!! come back soon keep it t0gether! Is it written? bom shankar! Must go now, any further questions will be answered if you email us <`Alisa> thank you HW where do we email for direct contact? why dont u give nik a beating till he gives in and lets u relese hawkestra <^Hawkbot^> There will be a q&A link on Mission Control groovy mayn release it anyway, he uses HW name all the time <`Alisa> great idea, Rik! *** Signoff: kitthehammer (Quit: Space Is Deep.. h?WK?????t) So is Nik delaying the release of Hawkestra? i missed the hawkestra but would love to see it on vid sometime im gonna miss the fezzy to bo ho ho cheers up gaz I am still looking for ADRIAN PARR. Anyone know what happened to him ??? have a cyber Black Vodka & tango is he the guy that was doing the Hawkwind book? not seen him in ages I would like to know, Bernhard Yes Michael dunno - not a peep mate IRC log ended Thu Apr 25 12:28 (end band chat) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 25 14:25:03 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 02:25:03 +0800 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who [does Bono think he is] Message-ID: > In other words, you're not with it at all, and the rest of us > aren't either -- and that's a thing to be proud of! :-) Amen to that Bill From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Apr 25 14:25:08 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:25:08 EDT Subject: HW Chat - whats happenin Message-ID: All was well in the end - had a FANTASTIC Q & A session Thanks!!!! In a message dated Fri, 26 Apr 2002 04:11:21 AEDT, Arin Komins writes: > On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Michael W Blackman wrote: > > :Subject: HW Chat - whats happenin > : > :Was logged in - got bumped - now can't get back in??? > > should be ok now....... > > Email Rik or myself direct if you still need aid. > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Apr 25 15:34:24 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:34:24 -0400 Subject: NIK: ICU on CD? Message-ID: Very nice to have the list back! The funny thing about this thread is that the first time I ever communicated with Steve Pond was to ask him about the possibility of reissuing ICU, right around the time he decided to do the MP3 CD-R of the complete back catalog. One thing he mentioned is that nobody seems to know where the master tapes for ANY of the albums are (I believe he mentioned that the 'Passout' CD was mastered from a cassette copy of the original master). Which is why *all* the currently-available stuff (Steve's MP3's, Trev's CD-R's) comes from a vinyl source. Which sucks, since early-80s British vinyl pressings were AWFUL! Those Flicknife LP's were good for all of about 3 plays ... On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 00:05:13 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:41:13AM +0000, Chris Gibbs typed out: > >> All of ICU's back catalogue (except the album without Nik) is availabe >> abosoutly free from http://doremi.co.uk/icu !!! >> Anyone selling ICU cdr's for big money is having a laugth, and loosing >> friends. > > Even if, and this is quite important I think, it's Trev >Thoms? Only I believe he is the source of these CDRs. It's a pity he can't >get them out on a decent label but he must be closer to breaking even this >way. Uh, yeah, since it's Trev doing this, IMO he should be supported and not condemned. It's HIS music to do with what he wants (since Nik and Fred and Dino obviously don't seem to mind), and he deserves (and probably needs) to make some money off it if he wants. (But I still wish they were master tape reissues!) > Something that occurred to me a little while back, actually, >though I haven't yet done anything about it, was some kind of effort to >get the ICU back catalogue back into print. My summation of the situation >is probably off here but it seems to me: > >_Pass Out_ was on Riddle, wich I assume is defunct as a company >now, but its CD version came out on Oldhitz, who still exist as a shop but >no longer seem to have a label... Actually, the CD came out on Oldhitz as a subsidiary of Overground, a very cool label that reissued a bunch of post-punk/indie stuff (Soft Boys, Vaselines, etc.) in the early 90's, then seemed to vanish for about 8 years. Interestingly enough, Overground is now back, as ... (what else?) ... one of the multitude of labels Manufactured-and-Distributed by Voiceprint! (Electric Eels and Mirrors reissues on Overground/Voiceprint are HIGHLY recommended, even though the Mirrors CD doesn't include their version of "Ejection" :^( .) >... It is crying out >for a re-edition with at least `So Try As Id' on it and if possible >`Paradise Beach'--though in an ideal world that should probably be on a >reissue of _Ersatz_... and gods only know who could be persuaded to take >that on! Yeup, those should be bonus tracks somewhere. And I could see a reissue of 'Ersatz' appealing to the kind of people who like listening to the Shaggs, Gary Wilson, Kids of Whitney High, Wesley Willis, etc. >_Maximum Effect_ is available, though heaven only knows what the legality >of it is :-) Again, a real CD with bonus tracks would be nice, and Trev >doesn't seem to have the masters as the CDR is made from vinyl unless I'm >mistaken. But we can get it, so it's not as urgent as the others. The outtakes/demos collection, 'Maxout', would be perfect as bonus tracks for a 'Maximum Effect' reissue. Especially since that's the only place to get songs like "Dogrot Animal/Short Sharp Shock" and "Nazi Motorcycle Slut". >Let me leave _Punkadelic_ for a minute... > >_New Anatomy_ was on Demi Monde, and lots of Demi Monde stuff *has* gone >to CD on recent years ... This is in-print on Demi Monde, according to their website. I've seen the CD in stores, but it's the only ICU album I don't own (mostly because it isn't very good compared to the others). >Let me also leave _Presidents Tapes_ for a minute... > >`Blood and Bone' was on Jettisoundz, which was a video label primarily and >as best as I can discover was merged in 1992 with a company called >Visionary Communications >(source: ). These >are the people who were behind the _Night of the Hawks_ Hawkwind vinyl, ... er, the 'Night of the Hawks' vinyl was on Flicknife; Jettisoundz did the video (as well as the Stonehenge '84 and Black Sword videos, IIRC). And here's probably a good place to mention that the versions of "Little Black Egg" on vinyl and video are very different from one another (the former is almost a dub version ... without all the echoes). > So, _Punkadelia_ and _Presidents Tapes_, both on Flickknife. >Flickknife is a dead duck but most of its holdings seem to be available on >Anagram, which is part of Cherry Red which is still going as far as I >know. They have inserts in the CDs they issue saying if you want a classic >punk title on CD you should tell them and they'll look into it. Why they >haven't done this with records they presumably own I don't quite >understand, but if they don't think ICU's worth the investment, it seems >to me quite possible that they haven't heard that ICU is up and running >again, and indeed has a new album in the process of recording (any news on >that Mr Pond?) Perhaps someone from the band should tell them as >much... Failing that at least we could suggest it to them, in numbers >:-) The contact address, which I glean from , >seems to be . They look to me to be far the >most likely for a reissue, and by happy coincidence the albums are both >rather good too. THAT sounds like a reasonable likelihood, and an excellent idea. The two albums would easily fit together on a CD (although 'Presidents Tapes'+'Blood and Bone' or 'Punkadelic'+'Maximum Effect' combos would be more aesthetically/historically consistent). And Cherry Red has generally been pretty good about releasing cool/obscure stuff ... they just might be up for ICU. > But, the man from the band, Steve Pond: does *any* of this make >sense or have the situation right? Would applying gentle suggestion to >Cherry Red be in any way a helpful thing to do? I, too, would be curious to know mr. Pond's opinion here ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Apr 25 16:01:31 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:01:31 -0400 Subject: HW: not-necessarily-Nottingham Live 90 Message-ID: Very cool to see that the cover art and track listing have been posted on Mission Control! 1. Karnac Intro 2. Angels Of Death 3. Void Of Golden Light 4. Ejection 5. Wings 6. Out Of The Shadows 7. Snake Dance 8. Night Of The Hawks 9. The 7th Star 10. TV Suicide 11. Back In The Box 12. Assassins Of Allah 13. Images 14. Lives Of Great Men 15. Void Of Golden Light 16. Out Of The Shadows 17. Snake Dance 18. Night Of The Hawks 19. The 7th Star 20. Back In The Box 21. Utopia 22. Ejection 23. Damnation Alley Pt.1 24. Your Secret's Safe With Me 25. Damnation Alley Pt.2 I would assume that tracks 1-13 are the first CD, and 14-25 are on the second. The second CD would appear to be from the 25 jan 90 Nottingham show (6-piece lineup w/House & Wishart) previously released on video, but the first CD would have to be from later in 1990, after Simon House left (the "Angels of Death"/"Golden Void" opener is the giveaway), but with Bridget still in the band. Or am I totally wrong about that? But do we really need duplicate versions of "Out of the Shadows", "Snake Dance", "Night of the Hawks", "7th Star" (aka "Star Song" aka "Eons"), "Back in the Box" AND "Ejection" (especially since there are already 1990 versions of these on 'California Brainstorm')? I'd consider the versions with Simon to be much more essential ... but instead of the other (Simon-less) versions, I'd prefer to see some of the other songs the band performed in 1990 (and 1989, with the same/similar lineup) such as "Needle Gun", "Wind of Change", "Dream Worker", "Damage of Life", "Right Stuff", "Master of the Universe", "Urban Guerilla", "Lost Chronicles", and that version of "Death Trap" with the chorus from "Kings of Speed" thrown in. Sorry to nitpick, but I'm very excited about this release, as I like the 89/90 era of Hawkwind more than just about anything else (possible exception: spring '84 Earth Ritual tour w/Nik and Fred Reeves and a few guests) they did in the 15 years between Bob's departure and Ron's arrival. I will be quite happy to have this one sitting next to the other 3 major live releases from 89/90 ('Palace Springs', 'Glastonbury 90', and 'California Brainstorm'). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Thu Apr 25 16:30:10 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:30:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: Stoner Rock Message-ID: I had a copy of a CDr by Electric Wizard from my brother just recently. Based on that they are well worth a listen if you are into the heavier end of things. Not quite as heavy as my brothers band but then they are way out 'Gothenburg' Death Metal. Strangely, Yule Ritual featured on their website playlist last month. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" > On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, K Henderson wrote: > > > > > > As far as stoner space crossover goes I'm not seeing much > *new*: Gas Giant's _Pleasant Journey in Heavy Tunes_ is required listening > but it's been a while since they issued it and I've not heard of any new > output from them in their drummer-depleted state. Electric Wizard are > another obvious one, space doom they have called it and fair enough, they > are the extreme in that description. From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Thu Apr 25 16:36:16 2002 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:36:16 EDT Subject: New Motorhead Message-ID: In a message dated 4/25/2002 5:40:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM writes: > As for her and the Lemster being an item - I was given to believe she was a > lady who liked ladies, and perhaps mightn't want to be shacking up with a > warty 50-something bloke... > > But who knows, i could be wrong (it's happened before...)? > no, lem's gf is not the same as mentioned above... pictures of them circulated after they went to the 2000 or 2001 grammy awards together. he's mentioned her in many interviews as well. as to wether they're still an item...i don't know. bobm From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Thu Apr 25 16:42:40 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:42:40 +0100 Subject: OFF Re: New Motorhead OFF Message-ID: Shaven Head, black girl - very fit in a truly athletic way! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:19 PM Subject: Re: OFF Re: New Motorhead OFF > Long hair - two boobies and a shapley butt? > > In a message dated Fri, 26 Apr 2002 02:20:10 AEDT, steven lindas writes: > > > Does anyone have her picture? I'd like to see what she looks like. Cheers > > STEPHE > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris Allen" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:35 AM > > Subject: Re: New Motorhead > > > > > > > > I heard that girl had died a few years ago > > > > > > Nah, just her band Skunk Anansie, which split up in the middle of last > > year. > > > Her name is Skin, and she's been working with loads of different people > > > since. > > > As for her and the Lemster being an item - I was given to believe she was > > a > > > lady who liked ladies, and perhaps mightn't want to be shacking up with a > > > warty 50-something bloke... > > > > > > But who knows, i could be wrong (it's happened before...)? > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Apr 25 17:02:21 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:02:21 -0400 Subject: OFF Re: New Motorhead OFF Message-ID: Like Grace Jones???? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 4:42 PM Subject: Re: OFF Re: New Motorhead OFF > Shaven Head, black girl - very fit in a truly athletic way! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:19 PM > Subject: Re: OFF Re: New Motorhead OFF > > > > Long hair - two boobies and a shapley butt? > > > > In a message dated Fri, 26 Apr 2002 02:20:10 AEDT, steven lindas > writes: > > > > > Does anyone have her picture? I'd like to see what she looks like. > Cheers > > > STEPHE > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Chris Allen" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:35 AM > > > Subject: Re: New Motorhead > > > > > > > > > > > I heard that girl had died a few years ago > > > > > > > > Nah, just her band Skunk Anansie, which split up in the middle of last > > > year. > > > > Her name is Skin, and she's been working with loads of different > people > > > > since. > > > > As for her and the Lemster being an item - I was given to believe she > was > > > a > > > > lady who liked ladies, and perhaps mightn't want to be shacking up > with a > > > > warty 50-something bloke... > > > > > > > > But who knows, i could be wrong (it's happened before...)? > > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Apr 25 17:03:57 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:03:57 EDT Subject: OFF Re: New Motorhead OFF Message-ID: Two outta three aint bad ey?? Got the boobies and shapley butt bitt right?? In a message dated Fri, 26 Apr 2002 07:43:56 AEDT, Mark Von Bargen writes: > Shaven Head, black girl - very fit in a truly athletic way! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:19 PM > Subject: Re: OFF Re: New Motorhead OFF > > > > Long hair - two boobies and a shapley butt? > > > > In a message dated Fri, 26 Apr 2002 02:20:10 AEDT, steven lindas > writes: > > > > > Does anyone have her picture? I'd like to see what she looks like. > Cheers > > > STEPHE > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Chris Allen" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:35 AM > > > Subject: Re: New Motorhead > > > > > > > > > > > I heard that girl had died a few years ago > > > > > > > > Nah, just her band Skunk Anansie, which split up in the middle of last > > > year. > > > > Her name is Skin, and she's been working with loads of different > people > > > > since. > > > > As for her and the Lemster being an item - I was given to believe she > was > > > a > > > > lady who liked ladies, and perhaps mightn't want to be shacking up > with a > > > > warty 50-something bloke... > > > > > > > > But who knows, i could be wrong (it's happened before...)? > > From hw at CY-B.ORG Thu Apr 25 18:20:15 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 18:20:15 -0400 Subject: HW: IRC CHAT EDIT Message-ID: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ++ STAR WARRIORS An EDITED version of todays Hawkwind IRC chat is on Mission Control... Link Via Updates: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm Thank you to all that contributed ! ++ Message Ends..... ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Apr 25 19:01:44 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 19:01:44 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. E-MAIL me at the Station during my program for the famous "comments, questions and recommendations" at the same e-mail as above: or give a call at: 909-787-KUCR thanks, Chuck 4/20 1.Syd Barrett-- "Terrapin/Octopus" (The Madcap Laughs; Capitol) 2.Ozric Tentacles-- "White Rhino Tea" (Live Underslunky; Snapper) 3.Kryptasthesie-- "Secret Power" (Inner Whirl; Delerium) 4.Omnia Opera-- "The Awakened" (ST'd; Delerium) 5.Hawkwind-- "Conjuration/Magnu/Dust of Time" (Live Chronicles; Griffin/Roadrunner) 6.The Deviants-- "Death of a Dream Machine/Playtime" (#3; London/Sire) 7.Mick Farren and Jack Lancaster-- "Disgruntled Employee" (The Deathray Tapes; Alive!) 8.Helios Creed-- "Late Bloomer" (Bursting Through the Van Allan Belt; Cleopatra) 9.spontaneous Spectrum-Silver Apples/Lightning Bolt "mix" 10.Abunai!-- "Drowning in Light" (Round Wound; Camera Obscura) 11.Asha Vida-- "Improv. #1" (As One of One; Icon) 12.ST 37-- "Fishbowl Dream" (Glare; Electric Jug/Helter Skelter) 13.La Dusseldorf-- "Cha Cha 2000" (Viva; Viva) 14.Ebeling Hughes-- "Night" (Transfigured Night; Zero Hour) 15.The Doors-- "End of the Night" (ST'd; Elektra) thanks, Chuck From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Apr 26 09:34:44 2002 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:34:44 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind in this months Record Collector Message-ID: This is really quite good. I read a little on the way to work today. Lemmy always makes a great ambassador for Hawkwind - 'We weren't the gentle sub- acid Moodies we were made out to be......We were a black fucking nightmare. A post-apocalypse horror soundtrack. We wanted to make people's heads and sphincters explode'. Regards, Alastair. On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 07:59:15 -0400, colm mcwilliams wrote: >I thought id let you al know thats theres 10 pages dedicated to hawkwind in >this months record collector. Loads of interviews with band and associated >people plus a run down of all of hawkwinds 70's album output. > >cheers > >colm From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Fri Apr 26 15:31:07 2002 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:31:07 -0400 Subject: NEARfest 2002 tickets Message-ID: Hi, folks: Just a reminder that The Artist Shop is giving away a free pair of tickets to NEARfest 2002, but time is running out. May 1st is the last day to enter. You'll find all the information to enter at . Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Fri Apr 26 17:55:44 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 22:55:44 +0100 Subject: E-mail warning Message-ID: Hi ya, I hope I am wasting my time telling you this ;-) I just recieved an e-mail (huge but little obvious content and no attachments). It claims to be a patch for Internet Explorer 6.0, somehow I doubt that is what it is! If you are stupid you might think it is from Microsoft, below is the e-mail header so maybe you can work out what mail server is at fault in sending this (big hint: I doubt there is anything wrong at uklinux.org, Lance, they guy in charge of e-mail, is pritty clued up). At moment I've got no spare processor so I'll try to figure what it actualy is latter. Another hint is that any mail server that allows you to claim your messages are originating from it rather than yours is stupid. mail servers that block incoming mail but are sending you mail should be well avoided, that is the sort of server spammers like, its set up that way because otherwise the server will get flooded with return mail and you wont get your spam. Unfortunately some such servers also have legitimate users (poor sods). Chris Received: by s1.uklinux.net (mbox hawklord) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Apr 26 22:41:02 2002) X-From_: glen at young19.freeserve.co.uk Fri Apr 26 21:10:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.94]) by s1.uklinux.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3QKAbX04129 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 21:10:37 +0100 Envelope-To: Received: from pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Fri, 26 Apr 2002 21:10:33 +0100 Received: from Acfl (unverified [62.30.102.48]) by pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 21:07:57 +0100 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 21:07:57 +0100 Message-ID: From: jfarewel To: chris at hawklord.uklinux.net Subject: A IE 6.0 patch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=A66NRz12Xf77R4p8H159 X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: b5082b0cf9040200 Hi,This is a IE 6.0 patch I hope you would like it. -- Greasy Truckers Party on the Road 2002 XHawkwind Tractor / The Way We Live Wrexham Psychedelic Party - 18th May Yales Central Station From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Apr 26 18:57:12 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 23:57:12 +0100 Subject: E-mail warning Message-ID: Thanks for the warning Chris, but I think, after all the "virus" alerts we've had on this list (certainly since I've been here - some seven years or so) we may all be aware of the golden rules of viruses. But, to reiterate... 1. Never open an attachment from anyone you don't know. 2. Never open an attachment from anyone you *do* know but aren't expecting. 3. There is no rule three. And as a ps to this, remember, Microsoft make software. They don't put out virus alerts. Norton, Sytmantic, McAfee and the like *do* put out virus alerts, but they DON'T email them to individual users. Keep your anti-virus software up to date, and for details of hoaxes, check out http://www.vmyths.com on a regular basis. Rob (the guy who runs this - the site is nothing to do with me, I've just found it very useful in the past) will give you the gen on all your virus needs. Cheers, Rich. (Who's getting scared about the wedding now... five weeks and counting...) :-) > Hi ya, > > I hope I am wasting my time telling you this ;-) > > I just recieved an e-mail (huge but little obvious content and no > attachments). > > It claims to be a patch for Internet Explorer 6.0, somehow I doubt that > is what it is! From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Fri Apr 26 18:37:02 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 23:37:02 +0100 Subject: e-mail warning Message-ID: Hi, (to stop this sort of virus affecting you when it comes in: Try to have your browser configured so it WILL NOT play multi-media! or get your mail with something that CANNOT play multi media or execut other programs. This is still very amature stuff!) I think I'm getting these from the place they start out, of course I'm not certain about that. This shows how out of date I am! Whatever the IE 6.0 patch is, its attempting to be (hint: check if files with these names exist someplace, not saying they will exist, but my guess is they do on an infected system): --A66NRz12Xf77R4p8H159 Content-Type: audio/x-wav; name=Paths.scr Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: You dont see it because the message is in HTML. It definately is not a wav file, it is actually trying to be a screen saver! There is also --A66NRz12Xf77R4p8H159 --A66NRz12Xf77R4p8H159 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=Theses[1].htm Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: But it certainly ain't a html file! Here is the header from another nasty (Ghoa ???) I got in last few days it is very similar in construction: >From - Wed Apr 24 22:32:09 2002 Received: by s1.uklinux.net (mbox hawklord) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Apr 24 22:41:59 2002) X-From_: zahar at upsi.edu.my Wed Apr 24 08:50:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from munshi.upsi.edu.my ([202.184.240.6]) by s1.uklinux.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3O7nrL23921 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:49:57 +0100 Envelope-To: Received: from Kxietcq (generic20.upsi.edu.my [10.20.0.178] (may be forged)) by munshi.upsi.edu.my (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g3O7cVx20725 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:38:31 +0800 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:38:31 +0800 Message-Id: <200204240738.g3O7cVx20725 at munshi.upsi.edu.my> From: RARS To: chris at hawklord.uklinux.net Subject: News Application MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=M8m5098N2l47q99G48S817HE X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 12cc7350edd90100 This one has: --M8m5098N2l47q99G48S817HE Content-Type: audio/x-wav; name=all.exe Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: and Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=news.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: -- Greasy Truckers Party on the Road 2002 XHawkwind Tractor / The Way We Live Wrexham Psychedelic Party - 18th May Yales Central Station From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Fri Apr 26 19:25:26 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 00:25:26 +0100 Subject: E-mail warning Message-ID: Yi ya, Yes, but I still know people who are convinced all they need do is not open attatchments or execute any progs that come in this way. What I'm seeing is stuff that if you get it via IE or mailexpress or whatever the MS mail thing is its going to infect you. Neither of these are attatchments. They get in by pretending to be audio, so then if what you get your mail with can play audio, and I think outlook express does, its in. (all this VB stuff in MS apps is an open door IMHO). Also my guess is most people here using MS are using IE set up to play audio..... you get my drift? No anti-virus software is ever up to date, I just have quick look at my mail with a text editor and I see whats happening. I see a music interest e-mail groop with virus problem and I see virusses that pretend to be wav files. Don't take a genius to work out whats happening! Chris -- Greasy Truckers Party on the Road 2002 XHawkwind Tractor / The Way We Live Wrexham Psychedelic Party - 18th May Yales Central Station From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Apr 26 20:04:56 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 01:04:56 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind in this months Record Collector Message-ID: You've got to respect a man who sits on the fence *that* much. :-) Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair Sumner" To: Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 2:34 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind in this months Record Collector > This is really quite good. I read a little on the way to work today. Lemmy > always makes a great ambassador for Hawkwind - 'We weren't the gentle sub- > acid Moodies we were made out to be......We were a black fucking nightmare. > A post-apocalypse horror soundtrack. We wanted to make people's heads and > sphincters explode'. > > Regards, > Alastair. > > On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 07:59:15 -0400, colm mcwilliams > wrote: > > >I thought id let you al know thats theres 10 pages dedicated to hawkwind in > >this months record collector. Loads of interviews with band and associated > >people plus a run down of all of hawkwinds 70's album output. > > > >cheers > > > >colm > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Apr 27 11:01:19 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 11:01:19 -0400 Subject: E-mail warning Message-ID: Chris, => Yes, but I still know people who are convinced all they need do is not => open attatchments or execute any progs that come in this way. What I'm => seeing is stuff that if you get it via IE or mailexpress or whatever the => MS mail thing is its going to infect you. Neither of these are => attatchments. They get in by pretending to be audio, so then if what => you get your mail with can play audio, and I think outlook express does, => its in. (all this VB stuff in MS apps is an open door IMHO). Also my => guess is most people here using MS are using IE set up to play => audio..... you get my drift? No anti-virus software is ever up to => date, I just have quick look at my mail with a text editor and I see => whats happening. I see a music interest e-mail groop with virus => problem and I see virusses that pretend to be wav files. Don't take a => genius to work out whats happening! It's true it doesn't take a genius. The mail you got was an attempted infection of the W32.Klez worm. Somebody must have your e-mail address in their Windows address book, or in a file of one of the types it scours for e-mail addresses, which is why you became the lucky recipient of it. Masquerading behind fake extensions is nothing new. (Viruses have been using them for ages in an attempt to get people to think they're opening an image, movie clip, sound file, etc.) It think it's just chance you got one posing as audio, as it poses as various random types. As always, this worm is exploiting a very old hole for which there has been a patch available for ages. Trouble is, most users don't bother to keep up with the patches (or even realise they need to), despite the fact that "Windows Update" actually makes it very easy to do so. I guess it's a matter of "it'll never happen to me..." See http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.gen at mm.html for full details of how this worm propagates, what it infects, and how to remove it, if you're interested. It has been spreading a lot lately, and I've received several copies the last few days, all masquerading under different subject headings and attachments. I don't see anything unusual or sinister in it, beyond the fact that if you *are* infected, it is more difficult than usual to remove (or so I hear). Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Apr 27 14:23:12 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (HawkBot) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 14:23:12 -0400 Subject: HW: MC Updates Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS..... + Newly Uploaded 2001 TourPix: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/gigs/aut_2001/Walthamstow/pix.htm More going up over the next few days..... Also there is a link to a scan of the RECORD COLLECTOR cover on Mission Control Updates... http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm ++MESSAGE ENDS + + + From soltanic at YAHOO.COM Sat Apr 27 15:04:45 2002 From: soltanic at YAHOO.COM (Allen Shaw) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 12:04:45 -0700 Subject: OFF: King Black Acid interview Message-ID: I see that there is a new King Black Acid interview on the internet. Sounds like they are doing well getting songs on a movie soundtrack. BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Apr 27 17:22:48 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 17:22:48 EDT Subject: E-mail warning Message-ID: NEVER NEVER open attatchments that are suss!!!!!!!!! In a message dated Sat, 27 Apr 2002 09:16:40 AEDT, Chris Gibbs writes: > Hi ya, > > I hope I am wasting my time telling you this ;-) > > I just recieved an e-mail (huge but little obvious content and no > attachments). > > It claims to be a patch for Internet Explorer 6.0, somehow I doubt that > is what it is! > > If you are stupid you might think it is from Microsoft, below is the > e-mail header so maybe you can work out what mail server is at fault in > sending this (big hint: I doubt there is anything wrong at uklinux.org, > Lance, they guy in charge of e-mail, is pritty clued up). > > At moment I've got no spare processor so I'll try to figure what it > actualy is latter. > > Another hint is that any mail server that allows you to claim your > messages are originating from it rather than yours is stupid. mail > servers that block incoming mail but are sending you mail should be well > avoided, that is the sort of server spammers like, its set up that way > because otherwise the server will get flooded with return mail and you > wont get your spam. Unfortunately some such servers also have > legitimate users (poor sods). > > Chris > > Received: > by s1.uklinux.net (mbox hawklord) (with Cubic > Circle's > cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Fri Apr 26 22:41:02 > 2002) > X-From_: > glen at young19.freeserve.co.uk Fri Apr 26 21:10:38 > 2002 > Return-Path: > > Received: > from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk > [195.188.53.94]) by s1.uklinux.net > (8.11.6/8.11.6) with > ESMTP id g3QKAbX04129 for > ; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 > 21:10:37 +0100 > Envelope-To: > > Received: > from pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by > blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft > SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Fri, 26 Apr 2002 > 21:10:33 > +0100 > Received: > from Acfl (unverified [62.30.102.48]) by > pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies > SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id > > > for ; Fri, 26 Apr > 2002 > 21:07:57 +0100 > Date: > Fri, 26 Apr 2002 21:07:57 +0100 > Message-ID: > > > From: > jfarewel > To: > chris at hawklord.uklinux.net > Subject: > A IE 6.0 patch > MIME-Version: > 1.0 > Content-Type: > multipart/alternative; > boundary=A66NRz12Xf77R4p8H159 > X-Mozilla-Status: > 0000 > X-Mozilla-Status2: > 00000000 > X-UIDL: > b5082b0cf9040200 > > > > > Hi,This is a IE 6.0 patch > I hope you would like it. > -- > Greasy Truckers Party on the Road 2002 > XHawkwind Tractor / The Way We Live > Wrexham Psychedelic Party - 18th May > Yales Central Station From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sat Apr 27 19:35:08 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 07:35:08 +0800 Subject: E-mail warning Message-ID: Paul wrote > > It has been spreading a lot lately, and I've received several copies > the last few days, all masquerading under different subject headings > and attachments. I don't see anything unusual or sinister in it, > beyond the fact that if you *are* infected, it is more difficult than > usual to remove (or so I hear). The FixKlez tool from Norton takes care of it swiftly. Bill From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Apr 27 19:44:24 2002 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Judge Trev) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 00:44:24 +0100 Subject: ICU - Judge Trev CD's Message-ID: Hi there folks, The Maximum Effect - ICU Judgement and Thunder 2 - ICU, Atomgods compilation Revolution and Rebellion - ICU, Atomgods compilation Hamburg Live - Bajina - Me, Ron Tree, Dino Ferari, Trips live Now You Know The Score - Judge Trev's ICU ...are all available from Real Festival Music. Plus a lot of other stuff by festy musicians RFM Real Festival Music www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk The latest festy CD's News Forum Healers Downloads Yes, the master tapes of Max Effect are gone as they got mould on them and Nik threw them in the dustbin - oops However, the Max effect CDR we have is from a pristine German pressing (not the english shit one), is digitally cleaned and thus represents the highest quality available of this CD. The pressing was kindly unearthed by Mike Coleman (deltawave). Speaking of legality, all the ICU albums which I made (Passout, Punkadelic, Max Effect) are owned now by the band, and anyone else who releases them are very naughty boys - and there are a lot of naughty boys about these days. The reason no decent rec co puts our stuff out is because they dont think that they'll make enough profit out of them - and thats all that decent rec co's are interested in, they just profit out of the work of musicians - dont forget. Musicians, like the rest of the human race, need shelter, food, and warmth in order to live - this is often ignored by the shopkeepers. RFM CDR's, are sold only to friends like yourselves via mail outs and e-mail addresses, and at gigs. They are not sold in shops worldwide via commercial distributors. Without your interest, there would be no albums, and no gigs, and no bands. So there! Oh yes, I've recently completed a new album called "God and Man" which includes contributions from Nik, Ron Tree, and Harvey Bainbridge. I've sold a few pre -mastered signed CDR's of it to friends (about 20) as I have been trying to get it released by a "decent" record company. It looks as if it may be on sale soon, probably from RFM only, but I havn't given up yet. I'll let you know whats happening. Nik is in the same boat with his long awaited All Stars album. Love, Judge Trev From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Apr 28 07:01:34 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 07:01:34 -0400 Subject: OFF: King Black Acid interview Message-ID: You're probably referring to the interview I conducted with KBA guitarist and leader Daniel Riddle in the new issue of Aural Innovations. You can read it in the new issue at: http://aural-innovations.com/issues/issue19/issue19.html Then find King Black Acid under Band Profiles/Interviews. Daniel is an interesting guy to talk to with varied interests that result in everything from short psych flavored pop songs to 20 minute space voyages. Mothman Prophecies consists of the former plus other styles never heard from KBA before. Interesting stuff, but definitely a band that you need a couple of their CD's to get a feel for what they're about. Jerry From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Mon Apr 29 15:38:50 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 05:38:50 +1000 Subject: OFF: King Black Acid interview Message-ID: I heard them for the first time tonight and the music felt very familiar but in a good way. There is a Floyd element but it is both Floyd's blended into the bands sound. I agree with the review about the strong melodies and the lyrics I picked up were excellent. Daniel Riddle is a talented guy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Kranitz" To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 9:01 PM Subject: Re: OFF: King Black Acid interview > You're probably referring to the interview I conducted with KBA guitarist > and leader Daniel Riddle in the new issue of Aural Innovations. You can read > it in the new issue at: http://aural-innovations.com/issues/issue19/issue19.html > Then find King Black Acid under Band Profiles/Interviews. > > Daniel is an interesting guy to talk to with varied interests that result in > everything from short psych flavored pop songs to 20 minute space voyages. > Mothman Prophecies consists of the former plus other styles never heard from > KBA before. Interesting stuff, but definitely a band that you need a couple > of their CD's to get a feel for what they're about. > > Jerry > From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Apr 29 10:35:21 2002 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:35:21 +0100 Subject: calling jonathan jarrett Message-ID: what's yer problem with spacehead mate? mr dibs From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Apr 30 15:04:22 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:04:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Guitar question Message-ID: Hi, I'm looking to find an inexpensive guitar that has a similar sound to a Fender Jaguar or Jazzmaster. Used re-issues of the Jaguar I've seen have been out of my price range. I realize you get what you pay for, but if any of you gearheads out there have a suggestion, I'd love to hear it. Thanks, Brian NP> Elvis Costello "When I Was Cruel" From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 30 15:22:26 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:22:26 EDT Subject: OFF: Guitar question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 30 Apr 2002, at 15:04, Brian Halligan wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking to find an inexpensive guitar that has a similar sound to > a Fender Jaguar or Jazzmaster. Used re-issues of the Jaguar I've seen > have been out of my price range. I realize you get what you pay for, > but if any of you gearheads out there have a suggestion, I'd love to > hear it. > First off, why do you want one? They are virtually untunable and a nightmare to set up. The vibrato taipiece is the culprit. I will freely admit it's the coolest body shape out there, and for that reason I own 2 alternative [sic] guitars, both of them Fender Jagmasters. With this design, you get the very-cool Jag body, but with humbucking pickups and a bridge that will stay in tune. The new Jagmasters are very reasonable, and, if you look at the House of Guitars, you'll find they have a couple of NOS Jagmasters of the older variety, that you could get for a couple hundred bucks. These are the highly-esteemed Japanese-made Jagmasters. I have both a Japaneses and a Korean one, and the former is a beauty. When you mentioned the reissues, I assume you mean the Fender USA models? They are indeed a little steep for most guys. But if you MUST have a Jazzmaster or Jag, try to locate one of the Japanese reissues that were made about 10 years ago or so. They are beautiful guitars, probably better made than the US Fenders of the same time. They should be available for around 300 bucks used. In fact I know a guy who has one, and if you like, I'll ask him if it's for sale. theo From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Tue Apr 30 16:57:37 2002 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Alistair Ogilvy) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:57:37 EDT Subject: HW:Test message please ignore Message-ID: Apologies...Had problems ...test run Please ignore Alistair From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue Apr 30 19:43:00 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:43:00 -0400 Subject: HW: Some Festival Announcements Message-ID: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: +++ GREETINGS STAR WARRIORS The first confirmed bands for the festival weekend are posted on Mission Control. . . . http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm M O R E D A T A B E I N G P R O C E S S E D........ ++ + MESSAGE ENDS :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: www.hawkwind.org.uk www.hawkwind.net www.hawkwind.biz www.hawkwind.info www,hawkwind.com www.hawkestra.info From youless at LVCM.COM Tue Apr 30 21:07:13 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:07:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: Guitar question Message-ID: Other guitars you could consider are an old Fender Mustang or a Charvel Surfcaster - with the oversized Charvel logo, i.e. not a Jackson one. Get one that's beat-up looking to save some money on the purchase.... Other vintage guitars that aren't in the Jaguar/Jazzmeister price bracket are the Fender Duo-Sonic and the Gibson Melody Maker. You can hear sound samples of these at http://www.tonefrenzy.com Steve ----------------------------------- On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:04:22 -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: >Hi, > >I'm looking to find an inexpensive guitar that has a similar sound to a >Fender Jaguar or Jazzmaster. Used re-issues of the Jaguar I've seen have >been out of my price range. I realize you get what you pay for, but if any >of you gearheads out there have a suggestion, I'd love to hear it. > >Thanks, >Brian > >NP> Elvis Costello "When I Was Cruel" From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Apr 30 21:21:14 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:21:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: Guitar question Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:04:22 -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: >I'm looking to find an inexpensive guitar that has a similar sound to a >Fender Jaguar or Jazzmaster. Used re-issues of the Jaguar I've seen have >been out of my price range. I realize you get what you pay for, but if any >of you gearheads out there have a suggestion, I'd love to hear it. If you're not afraid to buy a guitar mail-order, you might want to check out the "Jizzcaster" made by Subway Guitars in Berkeley CA (local for me): http://www.fatdawg.com/newstock.html (about 1/3 of the way down the page, I think) ... the Subway cheapo stuff is surprisingly well-made for the price - head & shoulders above mass-produced Korean Squiers & Epiphones (and it's also a great used store - that's where I bought my first Rickenbacker bass). Most of them are made at least partially from geniune 60's "new old stock" parts, and (as you can see on the website) you can get all sorts of different pickup options etc., if you want. And Ted, I've seen/played with plenty of guitarists with one (most notably Eric Arn from Primordial Undermind), and they would ALL leave the tremelo arm off ... now I know why! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Apr 30 22:55:47 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 03:55:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: Guitar question Message-ID: Get an old Hondo or Kay Les Paul copy, detune it, and hit it a few times with a spanner. That'll give you the sound you're after. Cheers, Rich. (Alternatively, pick up a cheap Surfcaster with the 'lipstick tube' pickups still on it.) NP. Elvis Costello - She. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:04 PM Subject: OFF: Guitar question > Hi, > > I'm looking to find an inexpensive guitar that has a similar sound to a > Fender Jaguar or Jazzmaster. Used re-issues of the Jaguar I've seen have > been out of my price range. I realize you get what you pay for, but if any > of you gearheads out there have a suggestion, I'd love to hear it. > > Thanks, > Brian > > NP> Elvis Costello "When I Was Cruel" >