From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Sep 2 10:01:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 23:31:27 +0930 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Message-ID: That would be so cool!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:58 PM Subject: Re: HW: Barney Bubbles > I'm going to pop along sometime and ask nicely if I can take some photos > so that those who can't make it can enjoy it too. > > > Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > > > I won't be ther untill 7/9/ :( > > > > hope they have another one?!?!? > > > > > > > Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > > > > > > > Can someone give me details of the dates and venue for the Barney > > Bubbles > > > > exhibition?? > > > > > > 25 july - 9 aug > > > 13 - 14 Gt Sutton St > > > London EC1 > > > > > -- > Senior Systems Administrator Phone:0207 973 4000 > Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 > 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 > London W1D 3BP mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk > +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ > From prjt2501 at PTD.NET Fri Sep 7 15:28:30 2001 From: prjt2501 at PTD.NET (Project2501) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:28:30 -0400 Subject: OFF: Skynyrd/Ed King In-Reply-To: <997191654.3b6fefe62202c@www.netphd.net> Message-ID: Rickey Medlocke was an old time member of the band...he played drums on a number of tracks that are on the First And...Last album. One of the big things with Ed King not coming back (outside of the congestive heart failure thing) was that he felt the band breached their contract with him. He sued them, IIRC. The band has also intimated that he was responsible for getting Artimus Pyle kicked out. Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] On Behalf Of Nick English > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:41 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: Skynyrd/Ed King > > > Just to put a possible post-script to this whole Skynyrd > discussion. . . > > Now that Leon is dead, there\'s a chance there won\'t be a > Lynyrd Skynyrd anymore. In order to get back together, the > band needed the okay of Ronnie\'s widow. She drew up a > contract stipulating that the Skynyrd name could only be used > if THREE original members were in the band. Now, I think, > the only ones left are Gary Rossington and Billy POwell. . . > Unless Rick Medlocke or Hughie Thomasson were long-ago > members themselves or something. > > Of course, there are still a couple original members kicking > around, like Artemis Pyle. . . who DID participate in the > reunion early on, but left acrimoniously and now claims it\'s cheesy. > > I guess poor Dale Krantz Rossington doesn\'t count. > > --Nick > > From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Sep 1 07:31:25 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 12:31:25 +0100 Subject: off: Fairies/ Deviants. Message-ID: I'm looking for a copy of 'Kill em and eat em' by the Pink Fairies on cd. If anyones got a spare I'd be willing to take it off your hands for a reasonable price. Also does any have trach listings for eating Jello, Human Garbage and Barbarian princess by the deviants. Thanks Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sat Sep 1 08:24:49 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 13:24:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fairies/ Deviants. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Also does any have trach listings for eating Jello, Human Garbage and > Barbarian princess by the deviants. Check http://www.thanatosoft.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm -- Andy www.andygilham.com From hne at INETNOW.NET Sun Sep 2 11:17:39 2001 From: hne at INETNOW.NET (Keith Hopkins) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 23:17:39 +0800 Subject: BOC Quotes on TV Message-ID: I don't how old this is, since I'm watching TV in Taiwan it's probably not current, but.... Heard on "That 70's Show" "I thought you said Blue Oyster Cult was the soundtrack to the revolution." Lost In Taipei, Keith From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sun Sep 2 16:29:32 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 16:29:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: SLOTERDIJK: 9/8 show cancelled!! Message-ID: The September 8th show in Long Branch New Jersey, has been cancelled by the management of the venue. We are currently awaiting a rescheduled date, and will pass that information on as soon as a date is established. Thanks for all the support this spring and summer, we hope to see more of you soon!!! Cheers, MIke PS As always, if you have an interest in having us come to your town, let us know... www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Sep 2 23:08:40 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 22:08:40 -0500 Subject: OFF: Judas Priest frontman says 'Rock Star' is his story Message-ID: http://www.jsonline.com/onwisconsin/movies/aug01/ripper03083101.asp From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Sep 3 14:41:20 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 19:41:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Strokes Message-ID: yes - Godspeed and The Go-Go's - perfect!! (as to Strokes - not passed by yet) Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gilham" To: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:49 PM Subject: Re: OFF: The Strokes > > (Andy Gil - get out and buy it!!!) > > OK, OK, I'll give it a try! And I though I was the trendy one around here > ;) > > But you have to get GOD BLESS THE GO-GO'S in return! ;) > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Sep 3 14:38:53 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 19:38:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor Message-ID: not forgetting the splendid "Exhaust" album, a project from Gospeed's drummer which I've been championing here at CDS Towers, plus the new 'Stealing The Fire' album too!! Great bands - great albums Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gilham" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:09 AM Subject: Re: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Sep 3 19:09:52 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 00:09:52 +0100 Subject: off: Fairies/ Deviants. Message-ID: do a web search and find the Captain Trips label website and that will answer some if not all of the question. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rob burton" To: Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 12:31 PM Subject: off: Fairies/ Deviants. > Also does any have trach listings for eating Jello, Human Garbage and > Barbarian princess by the deviants. > > Thanks > > Rob. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From coral at APORT.RU Mon Sep 3 20:21:07 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 04:21:07 +0400 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' Message-ID: Hello I've got a Space Rock Odyssey yesterday... listening to it now. I have mixed feelings about it. From on point it's interesting concert but from another it's the crappest concert I've heard for the last few months. Nik is in a very bad form, his sax is very annoying, flute is too monotonous, band is slow and too relaxed... no energy in improvisations, no Hawkwind! It's a shame they tried to put it under the name Hawkwind! The awful, the worst ever version of D-Rider - which is my fave HW song! I guess the band could sound ok if there was Dave or Alan or Richard... or wihtout Nik! But there Nik was there who spoiled everything. And total disrespect to fans - to release audience recording, and even not very good quality! A lot, really lot of crowd noise and talking! I'm disappointed. Even his space ritual 1994 was much better though boring a lot. Alice From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Sep 4 02:00:40 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 06:00:40 +0000 Subject: OFF: The Strokes Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Tue Sep 4 05:24:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:24:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: Magazine Message-ID: Knowing that there are a few Magazine fans on this list, can anyone help me with a bit of info? Who was the drummer on their first album and what else did he go on to do? Thanks ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Sep 4 06:35:56 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:35:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: Girlschool Message-ID: I see that the magnificent Girlschool are playing Hitchin Town Hall on September 23rd! www.thechurchofleatherandstud.co.uk Same venue Hawkwind and Bedouin will be at later in the year, of course. Anyone else up for it? Me and Carl will be there for sure! "We're the barmy Girlschool army, la la la la la..." -- Andy www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Sep 4 08:16:40 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 13:16:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor In-Reply-To: <02f901c134d6$d714e100$cb18bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: > not forgetting the splendid "Exhaust" album No album with a track entitled "We support Iran in their bid to win the 1998 World Cup" can be all bad, can it? :) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Tue Sep 4 08:24:11 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 13:24:11 +0100 Subject: Stacia photos Message-ID: Just found this if anyone's interested: http://www.angel.dk/Pages/HAWKovers2.html From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 4 09:19:13 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 09:19:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: Magazine Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:24:00 +0100, Steve Litchfield wrote: >Knowing that there are a few Magazine fans on this list, can anyone help >me with a bit of info? Who was the drummer on their first album and what >else did he go on to do? According to http://www.shotbybothsides.com (best Magazine site I've found so far) it was Martin Jackson, although what he did later isn't stated. See the Pete Frame family tree on the site for more info. Hope this helps. NM From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Sep 4 17:12:45 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 17:12:45 -0400 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' Message-ID: I have to agree with all of Alice's comments on this one; it is a truly dreadful release. What amazed me even more was the result of a comparison between the Ozit release and the fairly widely distributed b**t that they used. The b**t is of far better quality; heaven alone knows how they managed to make such a hash of it. Colin From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Sep 4 16:12:41 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:12:41 -0400 Subject: OFF: Sigur Ros tour Message-ID: Hi Folks... It's kinda quiet here, so since the topic of the day (apart from the horrors of the Ozit CD) is gybe!, I thought I'd pass along this list of tourdates from Iceland's Sigur Ros, who are in some ways rather similar...droney-post-rock for a rainy day. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Is everyone in Europe back from holiday yet? Doesn't anybody work during the summer there? Just wondering...I'm considering a temporary emigration to Switzerland starting next summer and just wondering where the hell everybody has gone. No. American tour dates for Sigur Ros (Iceland): Sept 18 Gem Theatre - Detroit Sept 19 Massey Hall - Toronto Sept 21 Berklee - Boston Sept 22 TLA - Philadelphia Sept 24 Beacon Theatre - NYC Sept 25 9:30 Club - Washington DC Sept 27 Vic - Chicago Sept 28 Women's Club - Minneapolis Oct 1 St. Andrews Cathedral - Vancouver Oct 2 King Cat Theatre - Seattle Oct 4 Warfield - San Francisco Oct 6 Wilshire Theatre - Los Angeles From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue Sep 4 17:55:20 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 17:55:20 -0400 Subject: OFF: Sigur Ros tour In-Reply-To: <200109042128.RAA16827@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: At 16:12 9.4.01 -0400, it was writ: Hi Folks... > >It's kinda quiet here, so since the topic of the day (apart from the horrors >of the Ozit CD) is gybe!, I thought I'd pass along this list of tourdates >from Iceland's Sigur Ros, who are in some ways rather >similar...droney-post-rock for a rainy day. I am not joking what i type the following: Sigur Ros is in the Borders Music Dispay (in albany NY at least) where you can listen to tracks from discs. Im assumings its their most recent CD. The word is spreading? Jason From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Sep 4 17:37:59 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 17:37:59 EDT Subject: OFF: Sigur Ros tour In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010904175520.00694840@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: On 4 Sep 2001, at 17:55, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > I am not joking what i type the following: > Sigur Ros is in the Borders Music Dispay (in albany NY at least) where > you can listen to tracks from discs. Im assumings its their most > recent CD. > > The word is spreading? > Jason Hey, Bolts, Are you going to the B?C gig at Northern Lights next month? theo From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Sep 4 20:45:42 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:45:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fairies/ Deviants. Message-ID: On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 12:31:25 +0100, rob burton wrote: >I'm looking for a copy of 'Kill em and eat em' by the Pink Fairies on cd. >If anyones got a spare I'd be willing to take it off your hands for a >reasonable price. If my copy was on CD, I'd probably sell it (well, I'm enough of a completist to keep it, and it does have some good Mick Farren lyrics on it). >Also does any have trach listings for eating Jello, Human Garbage and >Barbarian princess by the deviants. No, yes, no. 'Human Garbage' (order may be a bit off): Broken Statue Outrageous Contagious Hey Thanks Screwed Up I Want A Drink Ramblin' Rose Police Car Taking LSD Trouble Every Day -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue Sep 4 22:15:28 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 22:15:28 EDT Subject: Stacia photos Message-ID: In a message dated 9/4/2001 8:22:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET writes: > Just found this if anyone's interested: > > yeah, that's a great site. he's got some brilliant early pics. bob From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Sep 4 22:22:24 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 22:22:24 EDT Subject: OFF: Fairies/ Deviants. Message-ID: In a message dated 9/4/01 8:46:02 PM, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: << Trouble Every Day >> oh yeah? the zappa song? huh. "<>" From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Sep 4 15:11:14 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:11:14 +0100 Subject: Very OFF: weird shit Message-ID: Just a thort - but as far as flying over Phoenix is concerned, I reckon those USAF etc. guys get pretty sick of keeping secrets and probably have a sense of humour too. The idea of reading the local rags with reports of alien visitors, UFOs and rehashed abduction stories probably tickled them pink!!! Jon Jarrett wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, M Holmes wrote: > > > Channel 5 here had one of those "SF and Aliens" nights where they show > > cheesy SF films (Close Encounters) and even cheesier "documentaries" > > about aliens, Roswell, and how the yanks faked the Moon landings. > > > > Still, being a sucker for cheesy SF and liking a laugh at conspiracy > > theories, I naturally watched some of this. > > > > So imagine my surprise when video was shown of a "UFO" over Phoenix a > > few years back and I realised that this is the same damn thing I saw on > > the west coast of Scotland a couple of years ago and could never really > > figure out what the hell it was (not of course that the documentary had > > anything more to offer than that it might be extraterrestrial visitors). > > > > I can already sense the guffaws rising in throats. I'd point out that > > those who know me well realise that I'm a pretty extreme rationalist and > > that I know enough about astronomy to both know what I'm looking at in > > the sky, and just how difficult interstellar logistics would be. > > > > I also know that I saw something that isn't part of the usual panoply of > > things seen in the sky at night. IMHO it's some sort of military > > hardware that they don't want folks to know about (the west coast of > > Scotland isn't exactly densely populated). Admittedly flying it over > > Phoenix for a few hundred people to watch seems at odds with this. > > > > So on the plus side, I'm not the only person who's ever seen this thing. > > On the minus side, a number of the other folks are fully fledged nuts. > > It's kind of annoying when I had a perfectly workable skeptical gig > > going and I'd just about persuaded myself that I saw a line of NOSS > > satellites. > > For what it's worth, the west coast of Scotland is nice and close > to the operating area of RAF Machrihanish (sp?). I've never seen anything > official about what the place is used for but it's got a perimeter miles > wide and is more or less the RAF equivalent of Edwards AFB in the US. One > of the things I've seen it suggested that goes on up there is flights of a > US reconnaissance birdy called Aurora, which was (not that it > exists, indeed its existence has been officially denied just like > the Stealth Fighter's) slated to replace the SR-71A Blackbird. No-one > knows what the thing looks like but it's supposed to be capable of Mach 4 > plus. The support for this is that air traffic controllers in Scotland > have occasionally told papers/scrappily-printed 'zines that they've picked > up blips doing that sort of speed, in non-ballistis trajectories and so > forth. The SR-71A went back into service not so very long after I first > read this but whatever the truth about the Aurora, it's most definitely a > prime candidate area for top secret military aircraft testing. Yours, > Jon > > n/p: Disarray - `Shrieking Monster Who Could Not Die' > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Sep 4 15:14:52 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:14:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dee is Christina - page of Proof!!! Message-ID: Ha ha ha, but who the heck is Dee Snyder? Possibly a reincarnation of Tubes frontman Fee Waybill? Karen Kusic wrote: > http://www.deeischristina.com/proof.htm From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Sep 4 23:25:39 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 23:25:39 EDT Subject: Very OFF: weird shit Message-ID: In a message dated 9/4/01 10:31:01 PM, hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK writes: << n/p: Disarray - `Shrieking Monster Who Could Not Die' >> "the armies came and he smashed 'em all flat; he conquered the planet and that was that the rules of man just didnt apply to the.....etc" "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Sep 4 23:28:34 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 23:28:34 EDT Subject: OFF: Dee is Christina - page of Proof!!! Message-ID: In a message dated 9/4/01 10:32:56 PM, hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK writes: << Dee Snyder? Possibly a reincarnation of Tubes frontman Fee Waybill? >> waybill was in phoenix's notorious 'the beans'. if anything, he preceded snyder. "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Sep 4 23:39:07 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 23:39:07 EDT Subject: OFF: Dee is Christina - page of Proof!!! Message-ID: In a message dated 9/4/01 11:30:05 PM, DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: << waybill was in phoenix's notorious 'the beans'. if anything, he preceded snyder. >> ===== well duh. what this one meant was, twisted sis had been around for years before they were signed; no reincarnation involved. "<>" From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Sep 5 00:40:58 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 00:40:58 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dee is Christina - page of Proof!!! Message-ID: actually,he was the frontman for Twisted Sister (q.what do you want to do with your life? a.i wanna rock!!) in late 70s before they became famous,used to play bars in long island,ny with their `death to disco show' tim fatrat wrote: > > Ha ha ha, but who the heck is Dee Snyder? Possibly a reincarnation of > Tubes frontman Fee Waybill? > > Karen Kusic wrote: > > > http://www.deeischristina.com/proof.htm From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Wed Sep 5 09:28:31 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:28:31 -0400 Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: I have heard a few times of the sex pistols front man Johnny Rotten?, being influenced by Calvert. Does anyone know where to find any online interviews backing up this claim? Thanks, Eddie Jobson. From sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK Wed Sep 5 05:13:12 2001 From: sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:13:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dee is Christina - page of Proof!!! Message-ID: Subject: Re: OFF: Dee is Christina - page of Proof!!! > In a message dated 9/4/01 10:32:56 PM, hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK writes: > > << Dee Snyder? Possibly a reincarnation of > Tubes frontman Fee Waybill? >> > > waybill was in phoenix's notorious 'the beans'. > > if anything, he preceded snyder. Fee preceded Snider by a good decade. At least in the pubilc eye, Snider had actually been playing shows for around 10 years before Twisted Sister were signed. If anyone is interested(and as there seems to be no publicity for the show) The Tubes with Waybill are playing the London Astoria on Sept 21st(I think). I saw them on their last UK show here a couple of years ago and they were excellent. Recommended to anyone why liked them in the past. Si From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 5 07:58:15 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:58:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: Read a flyer recently which mentioned that there are now two Hawkwinds: the Dave Brock genuine article and an XHawkwind featuring Nik and a dwindling cast of former members and "associates". This really is a pile of pish. This is shades of the Roger (it's my band blah blah) Waters and Dave Gilmour situation. How many live offerings of old tunes are needed - I've just finished reading the latest list from CDS - just how many bands has Nik guested/jammed/ or dubbed vocals with, I've lost count. The sad part is they are mainly tunes written over 25 years ago re-recorded over and over again. It's great that members old and new are playing together - but PLEASE WRITE SOME NEW MATERIAL!! So it's good news that Dave is out touring and planning to record new material (with that line-up I can't wait) but bad news that Nik has formed his own Hawkwind tribute band. Incidently I was looking forward to the live CD with Huw/Nik/Terry etc. but fortunately have been alerted that any form of quality control was abandoned - I mean, Nik, that really isn't quite the "spirit" or "conscience" of Hawkwind especially at the price charged for it (15 quid for a dodgy copy of someones audience tape). Cheerio Dave From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Wed Sep 5 07:30:29 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:30:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: >So it's good news that Dave is out touring and planning to record new >material (with that line-up I can't wait) but bad news that Nik has formed >his own Hawkwind tribute band. Incidently I was looking forward to the live >CD with Huw/Nik/Terry etc. but fortunately have been alerted that any form >of quality control was abandoned - I mean, Nik, that really isn't quite the >"spirit" or "conscience" of Hawkwind especially at the price charged for it >(15 quid for a dodgy copy of someones audience tape). In the radio interview with Nik featured on the recent "Transglobal Friends & Relations" CD he states his belief that anyone associated with Hawkwind or who has been in any way "touched" by Hawkwind should be able to use the name. Right then. How about Keith Hale's Hawkwind? Presumably Nik was more than happy about Ginger Baker's Hawkwind's Italian tour in the early 80's? Perhaps I'll get some mates together & play a few local pubs & bill us as Hawkwind? Hardly a recipe for maintaining the "spirit" or "conscience" of Hawkwind either. At least it seems that Huw's had the good sense to quit the Nik band. Dave From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 5 08:06:15 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 08:06:15 -0400 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' Message-ID: I have e-mailed Ozit about this recording, expressing my annoyance at what I see as an attempt to palm off crap onto the fans. For those who want to do likwise, the e-mail is: Leonard.Hewitt at which.net COLIN From coral at APORT.RU Wed Sep 5 09:23:48 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:23:48 +0400 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' Message-ID: I also e-mailed. From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Sep 5 10:15:45 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:15:45 +0800 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: > In the radio interview with Nik featured on the recent "Transglobal Friends > & Relations" CD he states his belief that anyone associated with Hawkwind or > who has been in any way "touched" by Hawkwind should be able to use the > name. > > Right then. How about Keith Hale's Hawkwind? Presumably Nik was more than > happy about Ginger Baker's Hawkwind's Italian tour in the early 80's? > Perhaps I'll get some mates together & play a few local pubs & bill us as > Hawkwind? Hardly a recipe for maintaining the "spirit" or "conscience" of > Hawkwind either. > We might even see a line-up of Hawkwind (called Hawkwind), where the only link is the lead vocalist, Samantha Fox? William From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 5 10:17:03 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:17:03 +0100 Subject: 2001: A Space Rock Odyssey Live CD Message-ID: I recently purchased this itemwhich, as I understand it, is on your label. I've been for a quarter century now, a collector of things Hawkwind. I also took the trouble to travel from Edinburgh to Birkenhead to see the concert by Nik Turner and the various ex-Hawkwind members that he'd reassembled. As I expected, the playing was somewhat rough and ready but I appreciated that some of them hadn't played for a while and that they hadn't rehearsed much together, and took the gig as a bit of fun put together for the fans. In that spirit, a bit of rough playing is acceptable. What isn't acceptable is to compound that roughness with a recording of the quality of a fan at the back of the hall holding a dictation recorder in a biscuit tin, and then press this, apparently without any attempt at engineering or serious editing, onto a CD and then selling this to the fans, and that without a label saying "Warning: you'll only want this crap if you've been collecting Hawkwind items since you were born, and even then you might reconsider it this time." I'm quite amazed that anyone would lend their reputation to this, far less Nik Turner and the other members of the band. I hope that the "spirit of Hawkwind" that Nik has taken to touting in the advertising for this item and the accompanying concerts doesn't amount to simply profiteering from those fans dedicated and obsessed enough to buy in whatever the quality. Quite apart from this aspect, it is of course entirely possible that some future would-be Hawkwind fan will come across this item and conclude that any band associated with such unprofessionalism would best be diligently avoided. It almost seems like a deliberate sabotage attempt. If you folks are going to put some effort into providing something for the fans with some nod to the professionalism expected in the music retail trade then I wish you luck. If you can't do better than this though, it really is time to find a day job. Mike Holmes CC'd to the Hawkwind fans mailing list From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Sep 5 10:54:15 2001 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:54:15 +0100 Subject: 2001: A Space Rock Odyssey Live CD Message-ID: You are a baaad man. I hope it gets a response like the Voiceprint mail did.... C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: 2001: A Space Rock Odyssey Live CD > I recently purchased this itemwhich, as I understand it, is on your > label. [snipped] > > Mike Holmes > > CC'd to the Hawkwind fans mailing list > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 5 11:09:00 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:09:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) In-Reply-To: William Duffy's message of Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:15:45 +0800 Message-ID: William Duffy writes: > > We might even see a line-up of Hawkwind (called Hawkwind), where the only > link is the lead vocalist, Samantha Fox? I'm gonna religiously follow Dame Vera Lynn's Hawkwind... FoFP From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Sep 5 11:20:19 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:20:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > William Duffy writes: > > > > We might even see a line-up of Hawkwind (called Hawkwind), where the only > > link is the lead vocalist, Samantha Fox? > > I'm gonna religiously follow Dame Vera Lynn's Hawkwind... I'm gonna go for James Lastwind and his Deep Space Orchestra. Keef P.S. What's the difference between a bull & James Last's Orchestra? . . . . From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Sep 5 11:32:01 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:32:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: On a bull the horns are at the front and the arsehole's at the back! From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Sep 5 12:31:52 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:31:52 EDT Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: In a message dated 9/5/01 7:30:28 AM, merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK writes: << In the radio interview with Nik featured on the recent "Transglobal Friends & Relations" CD he states his belief that anyone associated with Hawkwind or who has been in any way "touched" by Hawkwind should be able to use the name. >> submitted to the congregation: when mick taylor left the rolling stones, should he have begun his own 'rolling stones'? true, he wasnt a founding member, and would have been sued into a puddle had he tried... == obnoxious enough that ginger baker pulled that stunt on hawkwind, but what if he'd started 'ginger baker's new cream'? or, having been a founding member, what if maureen tucker started ' mo tucker's velvet underground'? etc, i dunno, i'm asking you... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Sep 5 12:51:27 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:51:27 EDT Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: In a message dated 9/5/01 4:29:43 AM, ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET writes: << I have heard a few times of the sex pistols front man Johnny Rotten?, being influenced by Calvert. Does anyone know where to find any online interviews backing up this claim? >> ===== hadnt mr. Lydon been some sort of roadie on the space ritual tour? in what way does one suppose mr Calvert could have been an influence? listen again to "uncle sam's on mars" from 'pxr5' as calvert sings "two cars in the garage-uh" a la lydon....i thought he sorta did it on purpose, annoyed as he seemed to have been by the early uk punk era. huh. i loved the supremes but it's unlikely anyone would have thought my singing was "influenced by diana ross" ===== no matter what sign you are... "<>" From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Wed Sep 5 12:56:57 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:56:57 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > or, having been a founding member, what if maureen tucker started ' mo > tucker's velvet underground'? In the interest of historical accuracy, maureen tucker was not a founding member of the Velvet Underground. She replaced Angus Maclise who left when the band started playing paying gigs, something about money corrupting the purity of the art. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Sep 5 13:15:36 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:15:36 EDT Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: In a message dated 9/5/01 10:15:11 AM, xl5 at IINET.NET.AU writes: << We might even see a line-up of Hawkwind (called Hawkwind), where the only link is the lead vocalist, Samantha Fox? >> "Foxwind"? From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 5 09:22:51 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:22:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Bottomley > In the radio interview with Nik featured on the recent "Transglobal Friends > & Relations" CD he states his belief that anyone associated with Hawkwind or > who has been in any way "touched" by Hawkwind should be able to use the > name. > > Right then. How about Keith Hale's Hawkwind? Presumably Nik was more than > happy about Ginger Baker's Hawkwind's Italian tour in the early 80's? > Perhaps I'll get some mates together & play a few local pubs & bill us as > Hawkwind? Hardly a recipe for maintaining the "spirit" or "conscience" of > Hawkwind either. > > At least it seems that Huw's had the good sense to quit the Nik band. And a copy of things that spring to mind, if Nik was a member of the "real" Hawkwind, no doubt he'd be as against this sort of thing as DB. Secondly, as I understand it, a lot of the blame for some of the substandard "semi-official" releases that have prolifered (ie Yuri Gagarin) can be laid directly at Nik's door. Maybe the complaints about the latest Nikwind release aren't too surprising after all! Ian From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Sep 5 13:42:25 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:42:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: THERE IS ONLY ONE HAWKWIND OZIT RECORDS KNOW THIS THERE ENOUGH SUBSTANDARD HAWKRECORDS OUT THERE WITHOUT SOMEONE ELSE ADDING TO THE LIST COPY YOUR CD'S, THEN SEND THEM BACK TO THE LABEL, THOUGH BY THE SOUND OF IT, JUST SEND IT BACK!!!!!!!! REPEAT AFTER ME, THERE IS ONLY ONE HAWKWIND, THE SPIRIT OF WHICH IS KEPT ALIVE BY THE FANS, AND BY DB, AND HIS CURRENT SONIC CREW. ONE HAWKWIND ONE HAWKWIND ONE HAWKWIND From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Sep 5 13:45:16 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:45:16 EDT Subject: OFF : Velvet Underground Message-ID: In a message dated 9/5/01 1:01:01 PM, mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU writes: << In the interest of historical accuracy, maureen tucker was not a founding member of the Velvet Underground. She replaced Angus Maclise who left when the band started playing paying gigs, something about money corrupting the purity of the art. >> "purity of the art?" had maclise been in the exploding plastic inevitable? (sorry if the name is wrong) and what did "purity of the art" mean to lou reed when he played on the records by 'the soundalikes', [not the right name], those ersatz versions of hit records on pickwick, etc. lots of such records in the '60s.... and when did the velvets ever _not_ play 'paying gigs'? ==== ps> long ago and far away, when i managed the mail order dept of a place called new england comics, (home of 'the tick') i took a phone order from a kid who paid for the order w/his mom's credit card. i took down the credit card ## and said "the name?" and he says "maureen tucker". ?!? so i said, jokingly, "does your mother play the drums?" not expecting the answer to be "yes"... and he says "yes". ?!? he offered to get her on the phone but gawrsh, i couldnt've talked to her... "<>" "i know that she cares about me i heard her call my name...." From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Sep 5 14:46:54 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:46:54 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fairies/ Deviants. Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 22:22:24 EDT, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >In a message dated 9/4/01 8:46:02 PM, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > ><< Trouble Every Day >> > >oh yeah? the zappa song? >huh. Indeed. There's also a studio version (with backing vox from Chrissie Hynde) on Mick Farren's 'Vampires Stole My Lunch Money' album. I prefer the 'Human Garbage' live version with the dueling guitars from Larry Wallis and Wayne Kramer ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Sep 5 19:41:48 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:41:48 BST Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: Eddie wrote: > I have heard a few times of the sex pistols front man Johnny Rotten?, being >influenced by Calvert. Does anyone know where to find any online interviews >backing up this claim? There's a little reference to it in the 'Mindless Agreshun' clipping from 1978? in the archives section on the Hawkwind.com site. Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Sep 5 15:00:26 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:00:26 -0400 Subject: OFF : Velvet Underground Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:45:16 EDT, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >In a message dated 9/5/01 1:01:01 PM, mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU writes: ><< In the interest of historical accuracy, maureen tucker was not a >founding member of the Velvet Underground. She replaced Angus Maclise >who left when the band started playing paying gigs, something about >money corrupting the purity of the art. > >> > >"purity of the art?" > >had maclise been in the exploding plastic inevitable? >(sorry if the name is wrong) Do you mean the Dream Syndicate? (Cale / Reed / Maclise & Lamonte Young playing avant-garde drone music ... one CD FINALLY released after 35 years on Table of the Elements, and immediately surpressed by the greedy a$$hole Young, even though Cale & Reed approved it.) Exploding Plastic Inevitable was the name of Warhol's show that the Velvets participated in, well after Maclise's departure (he left before they hooked up with Warhol). >and what did "purity of the art" mean to lou reed when he played on the >records by 'the soundalikes', [not the right name], those ersatz versions >of hit records on pickwick, etc. lots of such records in the '60s.... Exactly; it wasn't the same issue with Lou (or Cale, as the two of them met while writing songs for Pickwick's budget cash-in comps ... some of which are pretty great songs!) that it was for Maclise. >and when did the velvets ever _not_ play 'paying gigs'? Never, but they played together in their loft for several months before going out in public; as I understand it, Maclise quit after one or two 'paying gigs'. >==== > ... and he says "maureen tucker". > >?!? I was mighty surprised a couple years back when I checked her website and saw that an upright bassist who had backed her on tour was a college classmate ... >"i know that she cares about me >i heard her call my name...." "...and then my mind split open!" Oh, and by all means check out the recent Angus Maclise release, 'Invasion of the Thunderbolt Pagoda', on Siltbreeze records. It rules ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Sep 5 15:05:29 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:05:29 -0400 Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:28:31 -0400, ejobson wrote: >I have heard a few times of the sex pistols front man Johnny Rotten?, being >influenced by Calvert. Does anyone know where to find any online interviews >backing up this claim? Not any online that I know of, but he talks about being a Hawkwind fan in his autobiography, 'No Dogs, No Irishmen'. Very fun read, as you'd probably expect. He wasn't a roadie for them, though (that seems to be a very persistent rumor!). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Wed Sep 5 15:49:34 2001 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve P) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:49:34 +0100 Subject: HW:Calvert influences In-Reply-To: <200109051905.PAA12315@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:05:29 -0400, you sent through the ether: >'No Dogs, No Irishmen'. Very fun read, as you'd >probably expect. He wasn't a roadie for them, though (that seems to be a >very persistent rumor!). Agreed that's a fun read.. When I toured with Calvert he told me all about John Rotten following Hawkwind on tour & having many conversations with Bob, when you find out what Rotten was listening to pre-punk this makes perfect sense..he was very Space Rock/Krautrock.. Anyone remember the "Sounds" review of "Anarchy in the UK"? "Sounds like Silver Machine" it said... and it does... (a bit) :) -S. From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Wed Sep 5 15:56:34 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:56:34 -0400 Subject: OFF : Velvet Underground Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:45:16 EDT, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > >In a message dated 9/5/01 1:01:01 PM, mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU writes: > ><< In the interest of historical accuracy, maureen tucker was not a > >founding member of the Velvet Underground. She replaced Angus Maclise > >who left when the band started playing paying gigs, something about > >money corrupting the purity of the art. > > >> > > > > Do you mean the Dream Syndicate? (Cale / Reed / Maclise & Lamonte Young > playing avant-garde drone music ... one CD FINALLY released after 35 years > on Table of the Elements, and immediately surpressed by the greedy a$$hole > Young, even though Cale & Reed approved it.) Oh my, we are confusing things. Reed was not in the Dream Syndicate. Tony Conrad was. > >and what did "purity of the art" mean to lou reed when he played on the > >records by 'the soundalikes', [not the right name], those ersatz versions > >of hit records on pickwick, etc. lots of such records in the '60s.... > > Exactly; it wasn't the same issue with Lou (or Cale, as the two of them met > while writing songs for Pickwick's budget cash-in comps ... some of which > are pretty great songs!) that it was for Maclise. Cale wasn't writing songs for Pickwick like Lou was. What happened was "Do the Ostrich" got some airplay so the label decided to put together a live band to milk their success. Cale and Conrad were drafted at some party because they looked the part. They were told not to worry about not knowing how to play guitar as all the strings would be tuned to the same note, which is what they were doing with their violas in the Dream Syndicate. (-8 John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Sep 5 16:40:50 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:40:50 -0400 Subject: OFF : Velvet Underground Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:56:34 -0400, John McIntyre wrote: >Doug Pearson wrote: >> Do you mean the Dream Syndicate? (Cale / Reed / Maclise & Lamonte Young) > >Oh my, we are confusing things. Reed was not in the Dream Syndicate. >Tony Conrad was. Ack! Yes! Thanks for catching that - can't believe I let that one slip ... (at least this makes a convenient time to mention the album on which the Faust rhythm section backs Tony Conrad on violin, probably one of the closest things to the Dream Syndicate until the CD on Table of the Elements briefly came out). [And to try to minimize further confusion, this Dream Syndicate is no relation to the 80's band whose amazing debut, 'Days of Wine and Roses' was just reissed by Rhino, and whose original lead guitarist wrote a song that BOC covered.] >Cale wasn't writing songs for Pickwick like Lou was. What happened >was "Do the Ostrich" got some airplay so the label decided to put >together a live band to milk their success. Cale and Conrad were >drafted at some party because they looked the part. Time to dig out my back issues of 'What Goes On', I guess! (It was my understanding that Cale was hired by Pickwick because he had the conservatory degree, that he & Reed met at the Pickwick offices, and that both were writing AND recording there, albeit with Reed probably doing the more of the former; of course, the only thing that can be positively identified on those recordings is Lou's voice. And I wasn't aware that Tony Conrad was at all involved with the Pickwick stuff.) >They were told not to worry >about not knowing how to play guitar as all the strings would be tuned to >the same note, which is what they were doing with their violas in the >Dream Syndicate. (-8 Indeed! (Actually, a violin rather than viola for Conrad, but it's not like there's *that* much difference between the bowed things you stick under your chin.) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Sep 5 18:07:12 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:07:12 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: or Mickey thomas's STARSHIP (ooops,he already did that) tim DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > > In a message dated 9/5/01 7:30:28 AM, merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK writes: > > << > > In the radio interview with Nik featured on the recent "Transglobal Friends > > & Relations" CD he states his belief that anyone associated with Hawkwind or > > who has been in any way "touched" by Hawkwind should be able to use the > > name. > > >> > > submitted to the congregation: > > > when mick taylor left the rolling stones, should he have begun his own > 'rolling stones'? > > true, he wasnt a founding member, and would have been sued into a puddle had > he tried... > == > obnoxious enough that ginger baker pulled that stunt on hawkwind, but what if > he'd started 'ginger baker's new cream'? > > or, having been a founding member, what if maureen tucker started ' mo > tucker's velvet underground'? > > etc, > > i dunno, i'm asking you... > > "<>" From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Sep 5 23:21:35 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 23:21:35 BST Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: Steve wrote: >Anyone remember the "Sounds" review of "Anarchy in the UK"? "Sounds like >Silver Machine" it said... and it does... (a bit) :) > >-S. There's a PIL track called 'Fishing' (I think), cant't remember the album its on, but it has one of the most Brock like non HW riffs I've ever heard Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Sep 5 19:34:07 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:34:07 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: as long as there is a "jumping in" on Ozit label- how about complaining that the first issues are mis-tracked/mis-labelled, and puported to be "collecters editions" -with the afterthought little tag inserted into front case without an invitation to return it for a corrected version.. fondue?? and if anyone feels like extra bitching, feel free to site a list-member who ordered VERY CLEARLY in a fax, a "Big Amongst Sheep" 45 7", and was sent the totally different and less rare 12", which I didn't need I was too lazy to pursue it, and just figured it was one of my "liveable" "cosmic slaps".... I guess I really should try to add that 45 to my collection..... here is a repo of the mispress "blurb": "This is a rare limited edition, Nik and Co. would like to apologise for the discrepancy in the tracklist on the paperwork. The tracks on this version have been incorrectly compiled/ mastered with Psychedelic Warlords appearing instead of Brainstorm. A further correct version of this album will be issued later with Brainstorm appearing correctly as listed." Andy!! are my 23 copies of the second version ready to ship yet???? mike c From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Sep 5 18:37:42 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:37:42 EDT Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: In a message dated 9/5/01 6:19:07 PM, m.j.crook at TALK21.COM writes: << Anyone remember the "Sounds" review of "Anarchy in the UK"? "Sounds like >Silver Machine" it said... and it does... (a bit) :) > >> this one would suggest the who's "substitute", as opposed to the 4-chords-ascending of "silver machine"... "<>" From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Wed Sep 5 18:35:54 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:35:54 +0200 Subject: OFF : Velvet Underground In-Reply-To: <200109052040.QAA12848@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi Doug, >Indeed! (Actually, a violin rather than viola for Conrad, but it's not >like there's *that* much difference between the bowed things you stick >under your chin.) But don't tell _that_ to a classical (orchestra) violin-player or you might get hit by a bow very hard ;-) (c)IAO D+R np: Univers Zero, "The Hard Quest" From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Sep 5 19:17:48 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:17:48 -0400 Subject: OFF : Velvet Underground Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:35:54 +0200, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: >Doug Pearson wrote: >>Indeed! (Actually, a violin rather than viola ... but it's not >>like there's *that* much difference between the bowed things you stick >>under your chin.) > >But don't tell _that_ to a classical (orchestra) violin-player or you might >get hit by a bow very hard ;-) That is very true! However, I would hope that any "real" (classical/orchestra) violinist would be far more offended by my playing (Fender amp! Phaseshifter! Wah-wah pedal! Screechy runs played through feeding-back analog delay!) than by any inflamatory statements I might make. ;^) (geez, next thing someone's gonna tell me that this here bugle isn't a "real" trumpet ;^) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Wed Sep 5 19:33:18 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:33:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) In-Reply-To: <00e701c1362f$bd6721a0$a6af883e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Surely the bulk of the substandard stuff is down to Dave Anderson?? Alasdair On 5 Sep 01, at 14:22, Ian Abrahams wrote: > And a copy of things that spring to mind, if Nik was a member of the "real" > Hawkwind, no doubt he'd be as against this sort of thing as DB. Secondly, as > I understand it, a lot of the blame for some of the substandard > "semi-official" releases that have prolifered (ie Yuri Gagarin) can be laid > directly at Nik's door. Maybe the complaints about the latest Nikwind > release aren't too surprising after all! From wbrehm1 at HOME.COM Wed Sep 5 22:20:24 2001 From: wbrehm1 at HOME.COM (Will Brehm) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:20:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: >"This is a rare limited edition, Nik and Co. would like to apologise for >the discrepancy in the tracklist on the paperwork. The tracks on this >version have been incorrectly compiled/ mastered with Psychedelic Warlords >appearing instead of Brainstorm. A further correct version of this album >will be issued later with Brainstorm appearing correctly as listed." Funny how they noticed this mistake but failed to notice that "Waiting for Tomorrow" appears twice, back-to-back. I thought my CD player was acting up... From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Wed Sep 5 23:13:25 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:13:25 -0500 Subject: Off: Skye Klad MP3 Message-ID: There is a live Skye Klad mp3 available for download at this web address. http://www.angelfire.com/indie/hardtimes/ The track is vespers from June 2001 at the turf club in St. Paul, MN. It's a stoner rock blast off. It appears on a benefit CD that none of you would know anything about, so ignore that stuff. If you scroll down you will see it listed. Click on it, it should play on whatever mp3 player you have set up on your machine. You cannot save the link location, you'll have to copy the file out of your temporary folder if you want to keep it forever, that's due to angelfire's policy. From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Wed Sep 5 23:40:47 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:40:47 -0500 Subject: Off: subarachnoid space Message-ID: I see they are playing here next wednesday in the 7th Street Entry. Has anybody checked them out recently? Anybody else going to see them? From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Sep 6 01:29:32 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 06:29:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Alasdair Macdonald > Surely the bulk of the substandard stuff is down to Dave > Anderson?? For releasing the stuff..but didn't the tapes come from Nik? Ian From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Sep 6 05:11:47 2001 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 10:11:47 +0100 Subject: OFF : Velvet Underground Message-ID: Weren't they formed from the New York loft-show art scene, where people just turned up and jammed (or just hung out), before they started going out actually looking for gigs for money? That's certainly where John Cale and Angus MacLise came from, the "art" music for the sake of music angle. ----- Original Message ----- From: > and when did the velvets ever _not_ play 'paying gigs'? From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 6 05:27:22 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 10:27:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) In-Reply-To: Will Brehm's message of Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:20:24 -0400 Message-ID: Will Brehm writes: > >"This is a rare limited edition, Nik and Co. would like to apologise for > >the discrepancy in the tracklist on the paperwork. The tracks on this > >version have been incorrectly compiled/ mastered with Psychedelic Warlords > >appearing instead of Brainstorm. A further correct version of this album > >will be issued later with Brainstorm appearing correctly as listed." > > Funny how they noticed this mistake but failed to notice that "Waiting for > Tomorrow" appears twice, back-to-back. I thought my CD player was acting > up... I'd have thought it'd be SOP to just listen to a master once it's produced so that they can detect stupid slip-ips immediately. FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Sep 6 06:58:14 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 04:58:14 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) In-Reply-To: <003401c13695$f7afb8c0$9e9c193e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <<"For releasing the stuff..but didn't the tapes come from Nik? Ian>> I think you have a point, as Nik told me himself that he put out "Bring Me The Head" as it represented a special moment for him personally... I do however wonder, if he has anything to do with the current low quality CD, other than saying "yes" to releasing stuff, and accepting terms of percentages..... maybe Ozit will take a look, remaster it correctly, and even offer exchanges- maybe......(do I know I am only dreaming??) I will look here with interest to answers comming back from them.... cheers mike From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Sep 6 08:30:18 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 08:30:18 -0400 Subject: BOC: Raffle to help a BOC Roadie Message-ID: Eric Bloom asked me to pass this info along for those of you who haven't heard: A raffle is being held to defray the medical expenses of long-time road crew member Sam Judd, who is recovering from a very serious operation. If you attended a BOC show in the 70s - 90s you probably remember seeing Sam on Eric & Allen's side of the stage. The Grand Prize is the Harper Guitar signed by all current band members, Albert and Joe Bouchard, and guitar maker Jon Harper. And possibly other ex-members (To be announced). There are 300 total raffle "chances" available. The winner's name will be chosen on the stage at the Bernalillo, NM show on Sept. 29, 2001. You need not be present to win and the guitar will be sent UPS to the winner's address. The guitar will be awarded regardless of the number of entries received. For each "chance" at winning, send a $50 Money Order (Money orders only, no personal checks) made out to SAM JUDD. Also send your name, phone number, address and email address. Your name will be entered once for each $50 received. Thus, if you send a money order for $100, your name will be entered twice into the raffle pool. BOC Direct will email back a confirmation of receipt for your chance(s). 100% of the funds will go to benefit Sam's rehab expenses. Mail your money orders to BOC Direct P.O. Box 860 Plandome, NY 11030. Guitar specs: Alder body, Maple neck with a rosewood fingerboard, 25 1/2" scale, 21 frets, 3 single coil pick-ups, Strat style tremolo, 2 tone and 1 volume control, 5 position selector switch, pearloid pickguard, red translucent finish, chrome hardware. This info, plus a picture of the guitar can be seen at: http://www.blueoystercult.com/Sam/Raffle.html John From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Sep 6 09:17:22 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:17:22 -0400 Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:49:34 +0100, Steve P wrote: >Anyone remember the "Sounds" review of "Anarchy in the UK"? "Sounds like >Silver Machine" it said... and it does... (a bit) :) I dimly recall that in the Flipside interview with Dave and Rich from '89, one of the interviewers (someone from Black Flag, I'm sure others will remember the guy's name but I don't) offers the opinion that the 'God Save The Queen' riff was a close relative to 'Ejection'. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Sep 6 14:00:12 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 14:00:12 EDT Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: In a message dated 9/6/01 9:17:47 AM, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: << offers the opinion that the 'God Save The Queen' riff was a close relative to 'Ejection'. >> ======== c'mon, fellas, jeez louise! as for "god save the queen"...try "born to be wild"!! nnnggghhh "<>" From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Sep 6 15:08:07 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 20:08:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: used to be the case but must be running narrowly in favour of a free-for-all right now. Bizarre isn't it - all over the world the good stuff is being deleted and disappearing while all around us the crap piles up like rubbish on a London street. Well, a bit OTT perhaps, but you get my drift. There's another twist to the Turner recent release CD saga but you will have to wait a week for that one as matters are still in flux................. hope you're all enjoying the new catalogue....should be invaluable once you've paid off the holidays!! Had in today the CD 'Think Pink/Never Never Land Demos' from the Twink camp along with Andy Colquhoun CD feat Sanderson, Hunter and Filthy Phil as guest artists, the new and sparkling Marble Sheep album but not heard the Twink one yet so stay tuned for report on that in a day or two....... More to come no doubt, Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alasdair Macdonald" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:33 AM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) > Surely the bulk of the substandard stuff is down to Dave > Anderson?? > > Alasdair > > On 5 Sep 01, at 14:22, Ian Abrahams wrote: > > > > > And a copy of things that spring to mind, if Nik was a member of the "real" > > Hawkwind, no doubt he'd be as against this sort of thing as DB. Secondly, as > > I understand it, a lot of the blame for some of the substandard > > "semi-official" releases that have prolifered (ie Yuri Gagarin) can be laid > > directly at Nik's door. Maybe the complaints about the latest Nikwind > > release aren't too surprising after all! From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Sep 6 15:18:51 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 20:18:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: no - but the 47 copies of the Sam Fox CD you ordered still haven't turned up yet so the office is currently rife with 'blonde' jokes. S'pose you'll be wanting the Turner 'All Stars' CD, will you - you've got the new cat, I take it have you Mikey? Fave CD of the week in Andy G land: new Devin Townsend - now THAT'S a real blow-your-brains-out job - what an album!!!!! Nought to do with Hawks but wot a stunner! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:34 AM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) > Andy!! are my 23 copies of the second version ready to ship yet???? > > mike c From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Sep 6 15:20:46 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 20:20:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: that reminds me - there may be another twist to this - it's possible that Nik does actually know NOTHING about the quality of what has been released as I think he may have been expecting the master tapes to be used not the cassette tapes, but that's based on hearsay right now, so don;t quote me. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) > <<"For releasing the stuff..but didn't the tapes come from Nik? > Ian>> > > I think you have a point, as Nik told me himself that he put out "Bring Me > The Head" as it represented a special moment for him personally... > > I do however wonder, if he has anything to do with the current low quality > CD, other than saying "yes" to releasing stuff, and accepting terms of > percentages..... > > maybe Ozit will take a look, remaster it correctly, and even offer exchanges- > maybe......(do I know I am only dreaming??) > > I will look here with interest to answers comming back from them.... > > cheers > > mike From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Thu Sep 6 15:27:26 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 15:27:26 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: >>"This is a rare limited edition, Nik and Co. would like to apologise for >>the discrepancy in the tracklist on the paperwork. The tracks on this >>version have been incorrectly compiled/ mastered with Psychedelic Warlords >>appearing instead of Brainstorm. A further correct version of this album >>will be issued later with Brainstorm appearing correctly as listed." > >Funny how they noticed this mistake but failed to notice that "Waiting for >Tomorrow" appears twice, back-to-back. I thought my CD player was acting >up... > Well, if one were to be cynical about these things, it's not so funny at all, its obviously legal 'cover-my-ass' time because 'Psych Warlords' has a writing credit due to a Mr. Brock, so that would be the more important mistake. Also why 'Seeing It As You Really Are' and 'Be Yourself' have both had their names changed to 'Odyssey Improvisation'. On the other tracks where Mr. Brock would get a credit he would get one not for lyrics but for music, and if one were to compare the music in the original versions and the ones presented here, well, probably there's no case. Not that these versions are necessarily worse, mind you, just sufficiently different... Stephan P.S. No-one needs to apologize for making 'Yuri Gagarin' available, at least not from a musical standpoint, at least not in my opinion - OK, I know I'm in the minority here...OK a very tiny minority...OK maybe 3 people... P.P.S. Tony Conrad and Faust - Outside the Dream Syndicate - on my short-list of favorite 'space-rock and related' albums of all time! From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Thu Sep 6 15:19:59 2001 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (Steve Johnson) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 15:19:59 EDT Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: Couldn't agree more Alice (like the name). It's garbage. I bought it a the Blackpool gig & couldn't believe how bad the quality was. A total rip off at ?15. We should be able to get a refund. As for the "This is a rare limited edition..." insert, they even cocked THAT up, stating that Psychedelic Warlords appears instead of Brainstorm. Bollocks! Waiting For Tomorrow appears instead of Brainstorm and is followed by THE EXACT SAME VERSION of WFT! It SHOULD read: This is a rare limited edition. Nik and co would like to apologise for the crap sound quality and total disrespect for our fans for for selling it to them in the first place. Avoid it. Steve the Gutter Cat. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Sep 6 18:18:16 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:18:16 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) In-Reply-To: <00d401c13709$f6db8720$c797bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: <<<"S'pose you'll be wanting the Turner 'All Stars' CD, will you - you've got the new cat, I take it have you Mikey?">> Andy "The Pusher" G Oh good one!!! you know this moldy bread that I keep munching since I am afraid to leave the house and risk being "looked at" much less try to score any non-legal substances makes reading a blur, and my attention span is very non-existant as a result..... (you) held back to make me look...... oh goodness- now I have to figure out which ONE the new one is- could ya send me that All Stars disc?? I am INDEED rather fond of that stuff- it makes me feel like a sophisticated loser/drunk at 3 am with cool taste- in case "they" catch me listening in..... could you send me out a copy??? what about that Andy C. CD with Filthy??? if it's a rager I'm game.....can you post more about the Pink Fairies related stuff?? I am only a novice in that department- but hey! I got Kill 'Em and Eat 'Em on CD and 2 vinyl pressings, as I sit meditating on how to "BE" the cover...is that so wrongggg?? mike "bad karma" c From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Sep 6 18:34:33 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:34:33 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20010906192726.006e72a4@pop.pipeline.com> Message-ID: Stephan <>. agreed. agreed. everybody just wants a little hatching with a pinch of salt, and waging war is mandatory.....especially if you've ever done time in an egg.. m it has kind of a neat "vibratory" effect when cranked up, I thought...... next subject where is the rest of the live show from the "It's So Easy" recording and parts of the Mt. Grill (innit?) lp- and could we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have an absolutely stunning LIVE CD from 1975 Warrior period........ sort of a legit "Mind Journey"?? some of the keyboards in some of that is my favorite most *wicked* melting flowing stuff I have ever heard..... if the shimmering realm between the realms of possibilty and chaos had a sound, for me, that would be it..... also- a friend told me air force jets flew over at one of those shows- anybody confirm/recall this??? it would obviously have been an outdoor event, whatever it was... m c From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 6 19:52:51 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 00:52:51 +0100 Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal?/ CotHM in England at last In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Michael R Godwin wrote: > Look forward to bumping into you in front of Buck's side of the PA next > time the band are in the UK. Yeah, when... Nothing on the list yet, although still nothing after November 9th so maybe we'll yet get lucky. Anybody heard anything about a European tour yet? I see from the tour schedules that some kind of Foghat is still fucntioning too. Yours, Jon ObCD: Hawkwind - _Space Ritual_ (currently playing the GTP tracks) -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 6 20:48:37 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 01:48:37 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 23 May 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > In message <200105231144.HAA15656 at listserv.spc.edu>, Alastair Lee > Sumner writes > >I vaguely remember reading an interview or something at the time where it > >was said that he swapped his bass for some synths simply because he wanted > >to be a synth player. > > Although I saw another interview (in fact it might be the one on > www.hawkwind.com) where he was asked, why the switch from bass to > keyboards, and he said simply "Alan Davey joined the band!" So I wondered > if the switch was to a certain extent forced on him. I thought there was a short gap, maybe a month, when Alan just replaced Harvey and then after that gap Harvey came back on synths? No idea where I got that idea from though. I'd still rather they had him than Tim coming back for the tour though. I love Tim's stuff but Keith can do swoosh and twiddles quite well enough, Tim will just be bread and bread; Harvey adds texture and depth. Keith can do that too of course but Harvey wouldn't take up quite the same head-space and dammit I like Harvey's playing (now he leaves the bass alone, anyway... ) Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Sep 6 22:59:41 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 22:59:41 -0400 Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal?/ CotHM &foghat England at last Message-ID: Jon Jarrett wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Michael R Godwin wrote: > I see from the tour schedules that some kind of Foghat is still > fucntioning too. Yours, > Jon yeah,but foghat without lonesome dave is hawkwind without db tim > ObCD: Hawkwind - _Space Ritual_ (currently playing the GTP tracks) > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Sep 7 04:33:05 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 04:33:05 -0400 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' Message-ID: A reply from Ozit: "dear mr allen we lost over ?5000 on the 2001 a space rock odyssey gigs in blackpool and crewe and the album launch so know we didn't actually enjoy any money but thanks for your kind e mail a correct pressing will be sent to you when it become available" "how can a recording be bootleg when it is done with the bands permission and the promoters permission and the recording is held by the band" Any comments? From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Sep 7 05:46:39 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard, The High Priest Of Lobster Bisque) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:46:39 +0100 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' In-Reply-To: <200109070833.EAA18620@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Yes. Someone ought to go back to school to learn the basics of spelling, punctuation and grammar. Cheers, R. > > > A reply from Ozit: > > "dear mr allen we lost over ?5000 on the 2001 a space rock > odyssey gigs in > blackpool and crewe and the album launch so know we didn't actually enjoy > any money but thanks for your kind e mail a correct pressing will be sent > to you when it become available" > > "how can a recording be bootleg when it is done with the bands permission > and the promoters permission and the recording is held by the band" > > Any comments? > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 7 06:09:30 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:09:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Thu, 6 Sep 2001 20:18:51 +0100 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > no - but the 47 copies of the Sam Fox CD you ordered still haven't turned up > yet I hope this isn't mikec looking for one with a strange hair on it again. I mean she's a nice looking lady, but there are limits... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 7 06:16:53 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:16:53 +0100 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' In-Reply-To: Richard, The High Priest Of Lobster Bisque's message of Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:46:39 +0100 Message-ID: Richard, The High Priest Of Lobster Bisque writes: > Yes. Someone ought to go back to school to learn the basics of spelling, > punctuation and grammar. Don't please. I have umpteen CV's from students to look at today and I always have to justify tossing the ones with spelling and grammar mistakes. You'd think people who are already in university would have mastered basic skills, but apparently this is a forlorn hope. FoFP From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Sep 7 06:43:35 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard, The High Priest Of Lobster Bisque) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:43:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Basic literacy. In-Reply-To: <200109071016.LAA03376@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: It is. You're right. Find out when their birthdays are and buy them all a copy of "The King's English" by Kingsley Amis. :-) R. > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: 07 September 2001 11:17 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' > > > Richard, The High Priest Of Lobster Bisque writes: > > > Yes. Someone ought to go back to school to learn the basics of > spelling, > > punctuation and grammar. > > Don't please. I have umpteen CV's from students to look at today and I > always have to justify tossing the ones with spelling and grammar > mistakes. You'd think people who are already in university would have > mastered basic skills, but apparently this is a forlorn hope. > > FoFP > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Sep 7 07:10:48 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 19:10:48 +0800 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: LMAO - Warrior Sam Hair ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 6:09 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) > ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > > no - but the 47 copies of the Sam Fox CD you ordered still haven't turned up > > yet > > I hope this isn't mikec looking for one with a strange hair on it again. > I mean she's a nice looking lady, but there are limits... > > FoFP > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Sep 7 07:43:22 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 07:43:22 -0400 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' In-Reply-To: <200109070833.EAA18620@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Colin Allen wrote: => A reply from Ozit: => "how can a recording be bootleg when it is done with the bands permission => and the promoters permission and the recording is held by the band" => => Any comments? Technically, he's correct. The recording is not in fact a bootleg, only (sub-)bootleg quality. :-) (Also, I doubt a real bootlegger would have bothered to reply.) If they lost a bundle on the gig, they're compounding it by releasing such an apparently awful recording, complete with expensive returns, damage to label reputation, and all. That's not very smart, IMHO. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Sep 7 07:53:28 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 12:53:28 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son In-Reply-To: <3B136E79.B60201A2@aol.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 May 2001, iain ferguson wrote: > Got to disagree, I thought Danny wa always the lamest hamfisted drummer hawkwind > ever had, the night of the hawks track is unlistenable to me because of the > aweful drums. > But Martin Griffin to me was a very good drummer, better than a lot of the > drummers hawkwind have had over the past 20 years. > Sonic attack is a great album, made all the better from Martin's great drumming. Actually, I have to concede you that point, that on _Sonic Attack_ I've never noticed the drumming particularly, which tends to suggest that it's at least OK and possibly quite good. Furthermore, I have noticed the drumming on _25 Years On_ and it's really quite good. I remember that my theory at the time was that Martin was all right when told what to play but lousy when left to improvise. But perhaps he actually has talent. In which case, why... > But then Choose your masks is an abomination of an album, the drums are gated , > metronomically perfect and without any movemnet to allow for fills etc, and may as > well have been a drum machine. Well, this is it, it sounds like Pressurehed doesn't it. Worse. There was a Mark & Lard series of sketches on Radio 1 a few years back where they were taking the piss out of these albums which put backing beats to classical pieces, where they just played such a piece with Lard walloping a bass drum out of time; same drum sample every tune, never in time, I thought it was hilarious. And then I got _Choose Your Masques_ and there was Martin doing it for real. So what the hell happened? > I really wished martin had played the drums instead of Danny at the hawkestra, > Danny's drums we just to much boom boom boom for me, and no finesse There was I think too much percussion going on there. You couldn't have picked out finesse if it had been present (and wasn't Martin actually playing one of the kits at the back for some of the songs?) Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Sep 7 10:00:41 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:00:41 -0400 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' Message-ID: I know the feeling Mike! I am always amused when prospective students cannot even spell the name of the programme for which they are applying. Regards, COLIN From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Sep 7 10:05:25 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:05:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: Hello, Could someone please send us a copy of this cd? Thank you Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephan Forstner To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 8:27 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) > >>"This is a rare limited edition, Nik and Co. would like to apologise for > >>the discrepancy in the tracklist on the paperwork. The tracks on this > >>version have been incorrectly compiled/ mastered with Psychedelic Warlords > >>appearing instead of Brainstorm. A further correct version of this album > >>will be issued later with Brainstorm appearing correctly as listed." > > > >Funny how they noticed this mistake but failed to notice that "Waiting for > >Tomorrow" appears twice, back-to-back. I thought my CD player was acting > >up... > > > Well, if one were to be cynical about these things, it's not so funny at > all, its obviously legal 'cover-my-ass' time because 'Psych Warlords' has a > writing credit due to a Mr. Brock, so that would be the more important > mistake. Also why 'Seeing It As You Really Are' and 'Be Yourself' have both > had their names changed to 'Odyssey Improvisation'. On the other tracks > where Mr. Brock would get a credit he would get one not for lyrics but for > music, and if one were to compare the music in the original versions and the > ones presented here, well, probably there's no case. Not that these versions > are necessarily worse, mind you, just sufficiently different... > > Stephan > > P.S. No-one needs to apologize for making 'Yuri Gagarin' available, at least > not from a musical standpoint, at least not in my opinion - OK, I know I'm > in the minority here...OK a very tiny minority...OK maybe 3 people... > > P.P.S. Tony Conrad and Faust - Outside the Dream Syndicate - on my > short-list of favorite 'space-rock and related' albums of all time! > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Sep 7 11:20:30 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 09:20:30 -0600 Subject: HW: Re: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) In-Reply-To: <008901c137a6$390963a0$61dc93c3@default> Message-ID: <> YES. From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Sep 7 11:58:37 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 16:58:37 +0100 Subject: HW:Calvert influences In-Reply-To: <7b.1aa67ff7.28c913ac@aol.com> Message-ID: In message <7b.1aa67ff7.28c913ac at aol.com>, DASLUD at AOL.COM writes >In a message dated 9/6/01 9:17:47 AM, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > ><< offers the opinion that the 'God Save >The Queen' riff was a close relative to 'Ejection'. > >> >======== >c'mon, fellas, jeez louise! I chose my words carefully... I didn't say I shared that opinion! > >as for "god save the queen"...try "born to be wild"!! Not sure about that either, but I'll take your word for it I don't know how well known the execrable Oasis are in the States, but you could have a field day with them. -- Nick Medford From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Sep 7 12:54:58 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 12:54:58 -0400 Subject: HW:Calvert influences In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nick Medford wrote: > I don't know how well known the execrable Oasis are in the States, but you > could have a field day with them. Oasis, like every rock band that becomes massively popular in the US today, only had two songs consistently played on the radio. "Wonderwall" was in such heavy rotation for a while that it would sometimes be playing on two separate stations at the same time...and Rochester is a relatively small radio market. Fortunately, I haven't heard any Oasis on the radio for a couple of years now. Ditto for Blur, though I like a few of their songs. Actually, anything resembling '60s psychedelia is passe now. I bet even the next Lenny Kravitz album will disappear without a trace. Brian obCD> The Bevis Frond "It Just Is" -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Zombies on Flower Power http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From frankw at STC.CORP.MOT.COM Fri Sep 7 13:40:34 2001 From: frankw at STC.CORP.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 12:40:34 -0500 Subject: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) Message-ID: >I've got # 10. Anyone else? > >MarkL > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of Ben Fagin >Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street > > >What was your number Keith? Mine is 171 How can you tell what number you have? My metal shield only has the number "2" stamped / etched into the lower left corner on the back. I can't find any other numbers on it. Am I missing one somewhere or do I have number 2? Frank -- Perl - the only language that looks the same before and after encryption. ============================================================ Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Sep 7 13:53:57 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 18:53:57 +0100 Subject: HW:Calvert influences In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Brian Halligan writes > >Ditto for Blur, though I like a few of their songs. I suspect their last two albums of being quite good, from what I've heard. Gotta admit though, I gag a bit at the thought of buying any of their stuff. Possibly I'm missing out. -- Nick Medford From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Fri Sep 7 14:04:39 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 12:04:39 -0600 Subject: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) In-Reply-To: <200109071740.MAA19337@stcserve.stc.corp.mot.com> Message-ID: As I recall, on the top of the backside is a small embossed plastic tag (white letters on black background) that reads 'x of 500.' I'll have to pull it off the wall to verify the memory cells. MarkL -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Frank Weil Subject: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) How can you tell what number you have? My metal shield only has the number "2" stamped / etched into the lower left corner on the back. I can't find any other numbers on it. Am I missing one somewhere or do I have number 2? Frank From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Sep 7 14:16:43 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 20:16:43 +0200 Subject: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) In-Reply-To: <200109071740.MAA19337@stcserve.stc.corp.mot.com> Message-ID: At 12:40 07.09.2001 -0500, you wrote: >>I've got # 10. Anyone else? I've got # 95/500 Bernhard From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Sep 7 15:44:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 13:44:57 -0600 Subject: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) In-Reply-To: <200109071740.MAA19337@stcserve.stc.corp.mot.com> Message-ID: >>How can you tell what number you have? My metal shield only has the number "2" stamped / etched into the lower left corner on the back. I can't find any other numbers on it. Am I missing one somewhere or do I have number 2? Frank<< it should have a black plastic panel glued onto the back just above the CD compartment that says "limited edition xx/500".....very clearly visible... and for the record... this particular copy I am looking at (#97)....that I *really need* to finally send to it's rightful owner has a little upside down number 1 in the lower left bottom corner of the metal casting itself....(also on the back side) the hairs the hairs...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh m c From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Sep 7 15:13:35 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:13:35 -0400 Subject: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) Message-ID: Frank wrote: >How can you tell what number you have? My metal shield only has the >number "2" stamped / etched into the lower left corner on the back. I >can't find any other numbers on it. Am I missing one somewhere or do I >have number 2? As already pointed out, the label stating the number of the shield is plainly visible, and situated in a recess in the casting itself. If yours has the recess but no label maybe it came adrift, but mine (like Mike C's) has an upsidedown 1 in the bottom corner not 2 - are there 2 kinds of shield out there? Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Sep 7 15:40:51 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 19:40:51 +0000 Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frankw at STC.CORP.MOT.COM Fri Sep 7 15:42:53 2001 From: frankw at STC.CORP.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:42:53 -0500 Subject: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) Message-ID: >From: Mick Crook >Subject: Re: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Frank wrote: >>How can you tell what number you have? My metal shield only has the >>number "2" stamped / etched into the lower left corner on the back. I >>can't find any other numbers on it. Am I missing one somewhere or do I >>have number 2? > >As already pointed out, the label stating the number of the shield is plainly visible, and situated in a recess in the casting itself. If yours has the recess but no label maybe it came adrift, but mine (like Mike C's) has an upsidedown 1 in the bottom corner not 2 - are there 2 kinds of shield out there? As far as I remember, mine never had the label. To make a long story relatively short, I got mine directly from Griffin. One of the Griffin employees from the Canada office was coming down to Chicago to stop by the local office. Rob Godwin had my shield sent with the employee, who then stopped by the warehouse of ALIEN Distribution (owned by Rob's sister-in-law Marietta) in Lombard, where I picked it up (and also got a chance to browse the warehouse shelves and pick up many CD's at a great discount). Many thanks still go out to Marietta! This was very soon after the shields first came out. Either the label got lost in transit, they did not yet have the labels to put on, or they were putting them on later in the process and mine was pulled before that. As for the '2', which is also upside down, instead of the '1', the mystery thickens... Frank -- Cogito Eggo Sum -- "I think, therefore I am a waffle." ============================================================ Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Sep 7 15:43:40 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 19:43:40 +0000 Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Sep 7 16:18:20 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 16:18:20 EDT Subject: OFF: VocoKesh Message-ID: Hello all, The new Lexicon Devil reissue is out. This time it's the first Vocokesh album from Richard Franecki after his departure from F/i, "ispepnaibara", which sounds to me to be their most consistent release, quite excellent space-rock, loads of fantastic guitar playing from Richard F. In a review of their '98 album "Paradise Revisited" in Aural Innovations, Doug Walker basically accuses drummer Jan Schober of having Thompson-itis, but the music is good enough so that it's not much of a detraction (though if the drums had simply been mixed lower, and the same can be said for Xenon Codex...). Also includes another vinyl-only EP, part of an F/i split from '92. Definitely recommended, and retailing for only $11. Chuck PS: Was listening to Quark last night... Is there a mellotron used on "Spirit"?? wow, what a sound... From christmu at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 7 17:19:13 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 23:19:13 +0200 Subject: OFF/HW: Temple of The Blasphemers of Sodom - "an autumn update..." Message-ID: Go to http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/deadlord.html for an extensive essay on "The Tibetan Book of The Dead, The Apocalypse and The Kali Yuga." Published in US "Medium" cult blackmetal and anarchist zine, I thought a web version was in order, and the article is indeed an appendix to the autobionetix and khaos-apocalyptick ramblings of "The Dragon Chronicle of The Undead Celt" (AKA "Scenes of Black Sorcery") which remains found at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/tubrok.html . Otherwise, of course the "Hawkwind Electric Library" is as always at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/hawkwind.html , consisting of rare early 70's Hawkwind (rare, never reprinted Barney Bubbles art) artwork from Frendz and International Times, as well as displaying various Hawkwind literary offshoots like Hawkwind-related comics and novels. Be sure to also visit the highly publicized and authorative "Michael Moorcock Comics Index" as well. Chr. ObCD: Tiamat - The Astral Sleep --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Sep 7 18:03:33 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:03:33 -0700 Subject: HW: Father and son In-Reply-To: Message-ID: According to my (very fuzzy) memory, he played on Free Fall, Shot Down In The Night, Psy Power, Motorway City, Orgone Accumulator, Silver Machine and Ejection. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Jon Jarrett Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:53 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Father and son > I really wished martin had played the drums instead of Danny at the hawkestra, > Danny's drums we just to much boom boom boom for me, and no finesse There was I think too much percussion going on there. You couldn't have picked out finesse if it had been present (and wasn't Martin actually playing one of the kits at the back for some of the songs?) Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Sep 7 18:11:20 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:11:20 -0700 Subject: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 13 of 500, and it has a stamped "2" which has been rotated 540 degrees...... KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:45 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) >>How can you tell what number you have? My metal shield only has the number "2" stamped / etched into the lower left corner on the back. I can't find any other numbers on it. Am I missing one somewhere or do I have number 2? Frank<< it should have a black plastic panel glued onto the back just above the CD compartment that says "limited edition xx/500".....very clearly visible... and for the record... this particular copy I am looking at (#97)....that I *really need* to finally send to it's rightful owner has a little upside down number 1 in the lower left bottom corner of the metal casting itself....(also on the back side) the hairs the hairs...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh m c From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Sep 7 19:33:16 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 17:33:16 -0600 Subject: HW:Langtons Hair Corner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My mail man would have looked right wearing a Santa hat today.... After waiting years and years and a few botched trade attempts, finally oh sweet finally the German LP pressing of "Like An Arrow" blew in the door.... (this LP has proven harder to obtain for me personally, than the rarest Hawkwind merch....probably because it's NOT Hawkwind) so why is the drawing of the "Flying V" style guitar on this ultra-rare pressing not only colored a different shade of blue, but SHAPED DIFFERENTLY at it's base.....(AND) the heart is colored a pinkish purple instead of red, and IS SHAPED a bit different, and is LARGER IN SIZE,,, not to even mention some font changes on the rear, and difference on the photo looking more like a copy of the photo than the original (which is kind of cool in it's own right) This ones going to get blasted... m, ps-whenever that is. I knew I NEEDED that one...:-) From christmu at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 7 18:31:09 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 00:31:09 +0200 Subject: OFF: Fave Ozzy era Black Sabbath... Message-ID: Staying in this Friday nite... :) Anyway, been getting the Black Sabbath remasters after I dumped all my original Castle edition CD's a couple of years back. Sort of a nostalgic feeling picking up a "new" Sabbath CD on occasion and smoking a bowl and kicking back, or just headbanging while doing something more important.. My top 3 Black Sabbath albums of the Ozzy era have to be: 1. Sabotage 2. Master of Reality 2. Vol. 4 If I were to pick a favorite live album, it would have to be "Live Evil" - killer versions of Dio-era classics like "Neon Knights" and "Children of The Sea", and of course very worthy versions of Ozzy-era classics like "War Pigs" and "Paranoid" as well. Chr. ObCD: Legendary Pink Dots - Legendary Pink Box --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Sep 7 19:47:58 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Venom Hiss) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 17:47:58 -0600 Subject: OFF: Fave Ozzy era Black Sabbath... In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010908001809.009621a0@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: <<>> ok ok I confess, after a welcomed invitation to go see WASP (again) (we like the porno TV's)...I was motivated to peep Venom pics on the web this morning... was fun.... blast hole in the sky.....(agreed on #1, NO DOUBT) looks like you've done your deeds for the HW seekers.... v h From christmu at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 7 20:18:10 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 02:18:10 +0200 Subject: HW/BOC: from alt.punk: the weird Moorcock/Sex Pistols connection - amongst other topics... Message-ID: Extracted from mine and other posters' discourse in alt.punk some time ago, in which I couldn't help but eventually bringing up Michael Moorcock's wildly "freestyle" adaptation of The Sex Pistols flick "The Great Rock'n'Roll Swindle"- discussed amongst other things under the topic "punk guys=hot" (gah...! time to trim that hair...) ------------- Subject: Re: punk guys=hot The Gamp wrote in message <9kennm$bll$1 at bob.news.rcn.net>... > >BabyGBaby wrote in message <20010803035320.09292.00002721 at ng-fa1.aol.com>... >>anybody here know a sid vicious look alike? mmmmmm >> >>-jenna I had a vivid dream once that I was Sid Vicious, and I was sitting playing guitar on a post apocalyptic massive landfill by a dumpster full of trash. Though I don't look like him in real life, I admit to sometimes picking my nose and I do alot of speed. I had another dream once I was David Bowie, getting kisses from groupie girls in my limo, but I later turned into Vyvyan from The Young Ones when I arrived at a movie theatre, frantically trying to find my seat. Maybe that makes me more of a Johnny Rotten type? I sold my CD of "Never Mind The Bollocks" years ago when I sold a bunch of my CD collection and never did pick up "Filthy Lucre Live". Never was a big Pistols fan. But the guy in the movie "Sid and Nancy" looks enough like Sid Vicious to convince, no? Doublespeak wrote in message <3B6B1AC6.ACAA83FF at hotmail.com>... >Gary Oldman, if I'm not mistaken. > >-- >You wot? Sid Vicious and Dracula. What a convincing combination... >I must say that he was more convincing than that Scouser playing Johnny >Rotten.. > > >-- >You wot? I saw this movie a long time ago so my memory is very hazy. All I remember of Johnny Rotten in the film is the scene where he's raising hell to Black Sabbath's "Paranoid" playing on the Jukebox. Oddly enough I remember Kim Deal having somewhere quoted the very song as "the first true punk song". At least the movie acknowledged Black Sabbath as an influence on The Sex Pistols and 70's punk in general. But, tangenting further off, even Michael Moorcock's written adaptation of "The Great Rock'n'Roll Swindle" had Lemmy appearing, quoted as "a true punk, forget that he had long hair". Hell, Moorcock even had the balls to put his own fictional character, transdimensional secret agent and apocalypse junkie reincarnate Jerry Cornelius in the lead role. Though I never saw the actual movie version which appearantly is a whole other animal. ------------------------------ So I just had to get that damn Moorcock reference in there... :) Hell, David Bowie ought to play Elric in a movie... and a distorted Eric Bloom or Dave Brock (or even mistuh Moorcock hissef!) could be the evil voice of Stormbringer... and somebody certainly better do a convincing fucking Arioch... but who'd play a sultry, sleeping young Zarozinia then? Of course there already is a Jerry Cornelius film, aka "The Last Days of Man on Earth" aka "The Final Programme", which even has Norwegian actress Julie Ege in a small role... its directed by John Finch, and is certainly a weird romp through the Cornelius SF mythos... and no, Johnny Rotten certainly doesen't make an appearance... Though Michael Moorcock ought to play Karl Marx in a movie if you ask me! Chr. (NB: an anarchist and an antichrist.) ObCD: Third World War - Third World War --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Fri Sep 7 21:11:53 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 21:11:53 EDT Subject: OFF: Fave Ozzy era Black Sabbath... Message-ID: In a message dated 9/7/2001 6:36:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, christmu at EUNET.NO writes: > My top 3 Black Sabbath albums of the Ozzy > era have to be: > > 1. Sabotage > 2. Master of Reality > 2. Vol. 4 > good lord, you've matched my top 2 anyway; Paranoid being too overplayed for me to really assess and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, though excellent, a bit too...er, cerebral? Sabotage is fantastic; their artisitc peak (stop sniggering...), and Master is maybe one of the most important heavy rock records ever (more influential than even Paranoid, which usually gets the nod); it's influence being heard even in today's so-called Nu-Metal...30 years later. Wow bobm fave SabSong: Black Sabbath From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Sep 7 21:36:51 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 21:36:51 EDT Subject: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) Message-ID: In a message dated 9/7/2001 2:23:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE writes: > At 12:40 07.09.2001 -0500, you wrote: > >>I've got # 10. Anyone else? > > I've got # 95/500 > > > Bernhard > o.k. here's my contribution to the boast club, sign me up with #31 bob From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Sep 7 21:39:04 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 21:39:04 EDT Subject: Metal Shield talk Message-ID: In a message dated 9/7/2001 3:14:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, m.j.crook at TALK21.COM writes: > As already pointed out, the label stating the number of the shield is > plainly visible, and situated in a recess in the casting itself. If yours > has the recess but no label maybe it came adrift, but mine (like Mike C's) > has an upsidedown 1 in the bottom corner not 2 - are there 2 kinds of > shield out there? > Mine has an upside down #3...I guess there's at least 3 kinds? bob From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Sep 7 23:46:26 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 23:46:26 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" 9/01 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/etc TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck NOTE: I also recommend you stay tuned for Mizzen's program "Audio Alchemy", which airs every Saturday evening after mine, from 8-11pm PST ...if you dare... ANOTHER NOTE: SDNC may not broadcast this week (tomorrow). Sorry for not being definite... 9/01 1.The Orb-- "Close Encounters" (UFOrb; Island) 2.Saturnia-- "Azimuth" (The Glitter Odd: Cranium Music) 3.Brainticket-- "One Morning" (Psychonaut; Bellaphone Records) 4.Census of Hallucinations-- "The General Erection" (5; Stone Premonitions) 5.Krom Lek-- "Top O' the Tor Revisited" (A Breath of Fresh Air; Stone Premonitions) 6.Defender-- "Sin the Sizer" (CD-R) 7.Das Ludicroix-- jam w/flute (CD-R; thanks to Karen/Larry) 8.Doldrums-- "X-Ray Me, Bert pt. 1" (Feng Shui; VHF Records) 9.Vas Deferens Organization/Electric Co.-- "Tinsel Termites in Barbed Wire Brassieres" (More Pelvis Wick for the Baloney Boners; Tekito Music) 10.Tone Float-- "Vapourspace Lookinglass" (Musik von...; Timothy's Brain Records) 11.Thumbtack Smoothie-- "Disjointorama" (Electrickitchentableland; Manic Obsessive Records) 12.Anubian Lights-- "One Eye to the Sky/The Fire Breathes" (Live w/Nik Turner; Strange Trips Records) 13.Hawkwind-- "You'd Better Believe It" (Hall of the Mountain Grill; EMI) 14.Farflung w/Nik Turner-- "Day of St Anthony's Fire" (Transglobal Friends and Relations; Transparency Records ) 15.2012-- "Look" (Flourescent Tunnelvision; Submergence Records) 16.Robert Calvert and the Maximum Effect-- "Test Tube Conceived" (Live 3/11/86 @ Carlyle Stars and Stripes CD-R) 17.Amon Duul 2-- "Syntelman's March of the Roaring '70s" (Tanz der Lemminge; Repetoirre Records) 18.Steven Wilson-- "A Grapefruit in the World of Park" (Where Stalks the Sandman; Noh Poetry Records) 19.Gong-- "New Age Transformation Try: No More Sages" (Planet Gong; Decal/Charly Records) 20.Attention Deficit-- "Nightmare on 48th Street" (The Idiot King; Magna Carta Records) 21.Chrome-- "ST 37" (Alien Soundtracks; Touch and Go Records) 22.Capt. Beefheart/Magic Band-- "Floppy Boot Stomp" (Shiny Beast ; Bizarre/Straight Records) 23.Richard Youngs-- "1966" (Iamaphotographer; thanks to Plain Recordings) 24.Krom Lek-- "Release and Let Go" (A Breath of Fresh Air) thanks, Chuck From christmu at EUNET.NO Sat Sep 8 01:57:55 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 07:57:55 +0200 Subject: OFF: new GWAR album Message-ID: Brace yourselves and point your browser to www.gwar.net - yes, looks like the new Gwar album will automatically demolish your neighborhhod post office and kill all your goldfish... PS: The first time I had sex and fell in love was after watching Gwar's "Phallus In Wonderland" video, of all things... As for the girl, she was a wild honey indeed, and its a true friggin story... she was an exotic dancer too, dammit, a true sweetheart and a rockin' metalbabe too, awww.... I can only nostalgically reminisce these days... snif! ...still mile high, Chr. ObTape: Voivod 7/2/86 --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Sat Sep 8 09:38:18 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 14:38:18 +0100 Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: Oasis and America are two things that were thrown together for the sake of money and popularity... If you would care to take a step back about 2 or 3 years before songs such as Wonderwall and Dont Look Back in Anger were released, to the days when Oasis played for the love of it and not for the PR groups. I am sure that you would be pleasently suprised at the level of quality of the songs.. Definatly Maybe is one album that I would very happily recommend to any self respecting "rock and roll" fan.... (not, however, to one that was perminantly stuck in the past!! :p ) That album and the B sides to their early singles are all great songs.. their later stuff DOES tend to be a little "wishy-washy".. but, all good things must come to an end.. and I strongly believe that if they had been left alone for a little longer, and if the stupidity of Liam Gallagher hadn't gotten in the way.. Oasis would have been a much better band than they were/are. Now they are all too rich and too washed up to do anything creative.... but, I'm still hoping that Noel can do a little something on his own.... Layla >>> blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM 09/07/01 05:54pm >>> Nick Medford wrote: > I don't know how well known the execrable Oasis are in the States, but you > could have a field day with them. Oasis, like every rock band that becomes massively popular in the US today, only had two songs consistently played on the radio. "Wonderwall" was in such heavy rotation for a while that it would sometimes be playing on two separate stations at the same time...and Rochester is a relatively small radio market. Fortunately, I haven't heard any Oasis on the radio for a couple of years now. Ditto for Blur, though I like a few of their songs. Actually, anything resembling '60s psychedelia is passe now. I bet even the next Lenny Kravitz album will disappear without a trace. Brian obCD> The Bevis Frond "It Just Is" -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Zombies on Flower Power http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Sat Sep 8 09:45:34 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 14:45:34 +0100 Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: Blur are a canny good band.... from 1995 their music has gotten better..... but their old stuff is good to... It was certainly a very different KIND of music to that which they do now.... I like it cause i like music with a very strong beat to it (and NO I am NOT refering to dance or trance or any of that other shite!) the latest blur stuff is like that, you can play it loud in any mood and it can make you feel good/stronger.. if you see what I mean... along with the Ramones, Alanis Moressette, the Pink Fairies....and early Hawkwind stuff.... (which i like for the same reasons) there, I've said my piece (twice in fact!) maybe I should go do some work now.....?? you think? okay then.... Layla. >>> nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK 09/07/01 06:53pm >>> In message , Brian Halligan writes > >Ditto for Blur, though I like a few of their songs. I suspect their last two albums of being quite good, from what I've heard. Gotta admit though, I gag a bit at the thought of buying any of their stuff. Possibly I'm missing out. -- Nick Medford From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Sep 8 10:14:08 2001 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Beautiful Foot) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 15:14:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fave Ozzy era Black Sabbath... Message-ID: 1. Black Sabbath 2. Vol. 4 3. Technical Ecstacy ----- Original Message ----- From: "christmu at eunet.no" > 1. Sabotage > 2. Master of Reality > 2. Vol. 4 From micci at SCI.FI Sat Sep 8 11:23:53 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 18:23:53 +0300 Subject: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) Message-ID: Hi! >At 12:40 07.09.2001 -0500, you wrote: >>>I've got # 10. Anyone else? > >I've got # 95/500 >Bernhard #175/500 and there is #3 bottom Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.sci.fi/~micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Sep 8 11:53:00 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 16:53:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) Message-ID: btw i saw the michael moorcock/griffin New World's Fair cd box set in HMV oxford street today for about 30 pounds. Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 Currently listening to: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miikka Wagner" To: Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 4:23 PM Subject: Re: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) > Hi! > > >At 12:40 07.09.2001 -0500, you wrote: > >>>I've got # 10. Anyone else? > > > >I've got # 95/500 > >Bernhard > > > #175/500 and there is #3 bottom > > Miikka Wagner > email: micci at sci.fi > > Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind > http://www.sci.fi/~micci > email: finn.wind at sci.fi From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Sep 8 15:23:48 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 14:23:48 -0500 Subject: OFF: TOUR! godspeed you black emperor! Message-ID: Awesome! Did this get posted to BOC-L already? http://pollstar.com/tour/searchall.pl?By=Artist&Content=GODYOU&Key=Y Date City Venue Fri 09/28/01 Toronto, ON Palais Royal Sat 09/29/01 Detroit, MI St. Andrews Hall Sun 09/30/01 Cleveland, OH Beachland Ballroom & Tavern Mon 10/01/01 Columbus, OH Wexner Center Tue 10/02/01 Chicago, IL Centrum Hall Wed 10/03/01 Milwaukee, WI Miramar Theatre From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Sep 8 15:52:23 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 14:52:23 -0500 Subject: OFF: The Seeing Tongue: Science News Online, Sept. 1, 2001 Message-ID: http://www.sciencenews.org/20010901/bob14.asp From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Sep 8 20:29:41 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 18:29:41 -0600 Subject: Nik Turner super-mega-ultra rarity number?? In-Reply-To: <200109081523.f88FNrC19283@kauha.saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: how about this one??? Nik Turner 45 7" vinyl single- "Thoth" (Pyramid Power Mix) b/w "Lunar Sea" there are 20 copies "out there" The first 10 are numbered only to ten, and after number 10, they are numbered "xx/20" my copy is 3/10... yours??? mike hehe c From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sat Sep 8 19:31:27 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 19:31:27 -0400 Subject: OFF:something fun Message-ID: Find your Star Wars Name!! Your first name: 1. First 3 letters of your 1st name 2. First 2 letters of your last name Your last name: 3. First 2 letters of your Mom's maiden name 4. First 3 letters of the city you were born in. this is fun TIMEL DAOFF _____ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------- End Original Message --------- --------- End Original Message --------- --------- End Original Message --------- From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sat Sep 8 19:49:37 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 07:49:37 +0800 Subject: OFF:something fun Message-ID: Bilfr Jawag ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 7:31 AM Subject: OFF:something fun > Find your Star Wars Name!! > Your first name: > 1. First 3 letters of your 1st name > 2. First 2 letters of your last name > > > Your last name: > > 3. First 2 letters of your Mom's maiden name > 4. First 3 letters of the city you were born in. > > this is fun > TIMEL DAOFF > > > > _____ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > --------- End Original Message --------- > --------- End Original Message --------- > --------- End Original Message --------- > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Sep 8 20:50:27 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 18:50:27 -0600 Subject: OFF:something fun In-Reply-To: Message-ID: micco hulos or (if I use mike, rather than michael) micko hulos it's the age of the micco sham....... From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sat Sep 8 20:23:01 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 20:23:01 EDT Subject: OFF:something fun Message-ID: In a message dated 9/8/01 6:33:37 PM US Eastern Standard Time, ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: > Find your Star Wars Name!! > Your first name: > 1. First 3 letters of your 1st name > 2. First 2 letters of your last name > > > Your last name: > > 3. First 2 letters of your Mom's maiden name > 4. First 3 letters of the city you were born in. > > Joslo Cafo here Which way to Episode II? From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Sep 8 23:46:19 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 23:46:19 -0400 Subject: OFF:something fun Message-ID: >> Find your Star Wars Name!! >> Your first name: >> 1. First 3 letters of your 1st name >> 2. First 2 letters of your last name >> >> Your last name: >> >> 3. First 2 letters of your Mom's maiden name >> 4. First 3 letters of the city you were born in. Keihe Conew Yours.... Grakkl (FAA), aka Allen Waugh From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sun Sep 9 03:47:45 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 01:47:45 -0600 Subject: OFF:something fun Message-ID: this is:) Pamwh Hayak Aka Pam K Henderson wrote: > >> Find your Star Wars Name!! > >> Your first name: > >> 1. First 3 letters of your 1st name > >> 2. First 2 letters of your last name > >> > >> Your last name: > >> > >> 3. First 2 letters of your Mom's maiden name > >> 4. First 3 letters of the city you were born in. > > Keihe Conew > > Yours.... > > Grakkl (FAA), aka Allen Waugh -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim > Find your Star Wars Name!! > Your first name: > 1. First 3 letters of your 1st name > 2. First 2 letters of your last name > > Your last name: > 3. First 2 letters of your Mom's maiden name > 4. First 3 letters of the city you were born in. > > this is fun > TIMEL DAOFF Just out of curiosity - where did you find this? Given that your mother's maiden name and sometimes the place you were born are often used as passwords or authorisation checks for bank accounts or credit transactions over the phone I wonder if knowing the first 2 or 3 letters would make it easier for code hackers to break into people's accounts or do an identity steal. Admittedly I can't guess where OFF is (the atlas only really suggests places in Germany) but a Co*********** in New (?York) wouldn't be that hard to do a computer search for in the marriage and birth records. It's not that I'm paranoid or anything - but they really are out to get you!! 8-) jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Sep 9 08:41:12 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 14:41:12 +0200 Subject: HW: Where is ADRIAN PARR ???? Message-ID: Hello folks Just visited Adrian Parrs Homepage. http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html It wasn't updated for 10 months !!! Last time I saw Age was at the Astoria gig and he was in a very good mood. Anyone here knows what happend to him ?? cheers Bernhard From micci at SCI.FI Sun Sep 9 08:54:30 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 15:54:30 +0300 Subject: Nik Turner super-mega-ultra rarity number?? Message-ID: Hi! >how about this one??? >Nik Turner 45 7" vinyl single- > "Thoth" (Pyramid Power Mix) b/w > "Lunar Sea" >there are 20 copies "out there" >The first 10 are numbered only to ten, and after number 10, they are >numbered "xx/20" >my copy is 3/10... >yours??? Mine is #2/10 Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.sci.fi/~micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sun Sep 9 09:07:36 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 09:07:36 EDT Subject: HW: Where is ADRIAN PARR ???? Message-ID: In a message dated 9/9/01 7:43:28 AM US Eastern Standard Time, bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE writes: > Anyone here knows what happend to him ?? > > > Dunno. Haven't head from Stephan Spiegel for a while either. Maybe they stole a spaceship and are having some intergalactic hijinx? From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Sep 9 09:13:27 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 09:13:27 -0400 Subject: OFF:something fun and sightly worrying Message-ID: hey jill god sleuthing,i was born in offenbach germany(maybe you are out to get me-ha ha!) a friend i used to work with forwards jokes and interesting things all the time. maybe i'm not paranoid enough these days,(though i was in the early 70s),but you're right:just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you. tim Jill Strobridge wrote: > > > > Find your Star Wars Name! > > Just out of curiosity - where did you find this? Given that your > mother's maiden name and sometimes the place you were born are often > used as passwords or authorisation checks for bank accounts or credit > transactions over the phone I wonder if knowing the first 2 or 3 letters > would make it easier for code hackers to break into people's accounts or > do an identity steal. Admittedly I can't guess where OFF is (the > atlas only really suggests places in Germany) but a Co*********** in New > (?York) wouldn't be that hard to do a computer search for in the > marriage and birth records. > > It's not that I'm paranoid or anything - but they really are out to get > you!! > 8-) > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Sun Sep 9 11:34:18 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 11:34:18 -0400 Subject: HW: Where is ADRIAN PARR ???? Message-ID: >Just visited Adrian Parrs Homepage. > >http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html > >It wasn't updated for 10 months !!! And you're surprised? It's not so uncommon for websites (even some official ones) to go un-updated for months, sometimes even years. Doesn't necessarily mean there's anything wrong with the people behind them... just that they're too busy to bother with a website :-) Don't know who Adrian Parr is, though... The name just struck me - I guess because of John Parr. Are the two related, BTW? Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Sep 9 12:39:50 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 10:39:50 -0600 Subject: Nik Turner super-mega-ultra rarity number?? In-Reply-To: <200109091254.f89CsUC12197@kauha.saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: "HI! Mine is #2/10 Miikka Wagner" Hi Miika- I was expecting you- I telephoned my friend and you were the only other person remembered as far as who got them.....(as I wanted to make sure my memory of 20 and the numbering was correct- and it is) (also- there were only supposed to be 10, but 20 got made by accident of the plant) interesting that yours is #2........ I know of a person in England that has 1 or 2 copies, but not on this list...... anyone else? m From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Sep 9 11:43:28 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 17:43:28 +0200 Subject: HW: Where is ADRIAN PARR ???? In-Reply-To: <200109091534.LAA18553@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi Alex At 11:34 09.09.2001 -0400, you wrote: >>It wasn't updated for 10 months !!! > >And you're surprised? Yes I am >Don't know who Adrian Parr is, though... The name just struck me - I guess >because of John Parr. Are the two related, BTW? Well, Adrian is a good friend of mine (we exchanged hundreds of mails) and one of the biggest Hawkwind fans I know. He has finished his book HAWKWIND CHRONICLES and was ready to pubish it. And then (after the Astoria gig) he disapeared Have not heard from him sice. Very unusual ! Believe me Bernhard From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Sep 9 12:49:09 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 10:49:09 -0600 Subject: HW: Where is ADRIAN PARR ???? In-Reply-To: <96.19d4ff12.28ccc398@aol.com> Message-ID: Joe L <<"Haven't head from Stephan Spiegel for a while either. Maybe they stole a spaceship and are having some intergalactic hijinx?">> Hello Joslo- I telephoned Stephan a couple weeks ago, and he is alive and well.... I think his career took the forefront, and he just stepped back a little, after he cleared Hawkman stocks out..... He is OK! same e-mail etc.- he is there! micco ps- being a creature of some curiosity, I wonder what your complete Star Wars surname is.... From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Sep 9 09:30:36 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 14:30:36 +0100 Subject: HW - off Fairies and stuff Message-ID: Pink Fairies in a nutshell: 1)Never Never Land/Think Pink Demos Just out -surprisingly superb, musically and quality wise 2)Never Never Land ferget it fer now - so deleted it's untrue - great album though 3)What A Bunch Of Sweeties ditto - but their best ever studio album for sure 4)Kings Of Oblivion roaring through the airwaves still - Larry's finest half hour 5)Kill Em and Eat Em never liked this much which is probably why it's deleted!! 6)Live At Roundhouse/Pink Fairies EP Corker - highly underrated and wicked 'Uncle Harry' - studio tracks are universally steaming 7)Golden Years Unrel live and studio tracks, plus the classic Glastonbury Fayre album tracks incl THE 'Uncle Harry' - pretty good album on the whole 8)Mandies and Mescaline The BBC Radio One In Concert plus radio sessions, plus the Glasto tracks - definitive stuff - the 'In Concert' featured the only time this particular Fairies line-up exists on CD. 9)Do It more unreleased stuff and Glasto tracks again - completely forgotten what's on it but doesn't register as essential. Also on pink vinyl 10)Pleasure Island comeback from Rudolph and Twink - incl a fantastic epic track but now deleted 11)No Picture the duo follow-up and come good again - deleted but last few available from CDS Towers 12)Live At Weeley Festival On 180 gram vinyl and on CD (in fact may be the 'Do It' thing) but quality is dire - and I mean dire. 13)Master Series THE definitive 'Best Of' CD - sadly deleted and rare as rocking horse droppings - if you see one, GRAB IT!! 14)Uncle Harry 3-sided double LP (sic) of stuff from some CD or other listed above, I think (guess whose notes are stuck in the office) 15)Twink - Think Pink vinyl and CD - 'classic' psychedelia that's a little frayed around the edges (I prefer the demos thing, actually) 16)Deviants/Farren Sorry - not a fan - someone else can do them - we stock them all but no comments here, I'm afraid 17)Andy Colqohoun new CD and it's pretty good 'rawk 'n' roll' with the Sanderson, Hunter, Fithy trio guesting on one track each Enogh for you, Mike old boy? Don;t anyone say I've missed out something - 'coz I know I have! 18)Pinkwind/Hawkfairies CD's bit ropey live collaborations - first is deleted - last one's nearly gone. anyone wanting anything, you know where to come, by now, I hope. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:18 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) > could you send me out a copy??? what about that Andy C. CD with Filthy??? > if it's a rager I'm game.....can you post more about the Pink Fairies > related stuff?? I am only a novice in that department- but hey! I got > Kill 'Em and Eat 'Em on CD and 2 vinyl pressings, as I sit meditating on > how to "BE" the cover...is that so wrongggg?? > > mike "bad karma" c From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Sep 9 09:06:19 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 14:06:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) Message-ID: 1)Yes - agreed for one CD release, but HOW MANY!!!!! 2)That one's in Mr Smith's hands I think, or at least in EMI's vaults, for sure. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:34 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) 1) Stephan > < not from a musical standpoint, at least not in my opinion - OK where is the rest of the live show from the "It's So Easy" recording and > parts of the Mt. Grill (innit?) lp- > 2) and could we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have an absolutely stunning LIVE CD from > 1975 Warrior period........ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Sep 9 11:31:53 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 16:31:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam FOx video footage Message-ID: it arrived - I opened - I peaked - I groaned. Well, for Hawkfans anyway. I keep being forced to sell things like this to do with Hawkwind in such a tenuous way without seeing/hearing the thing first, and this is the result, but luckily the few who bought it will be adding it to the archives if nothing else. So, what are the collectors (you know who you are) getting? In terms of Hawkwind, the answer is 'very little' or to be precise, about thirty seconds of moving images from the Hawkestra set to Sam Fox music - and that's it. Possibly the ultimate Hawkwind collectors item in terms of money paid versus time of product (and no music to boot - beat that!!). If there is anyone else out there who wants one to make up the collection, we have four left and that's it - there will be no more coming from us and that's for sure. That is the end of the bulletin. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Litchfield" To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 4:31 PM Subject: HW: Sam FOx video footage > So.... now that it's out, any volunteers to grab the version with CD-ROM > and tell us if it's worth buying? Andy, maybe you could break open the > shrinkwrap when it arrives and give it a play on your PC, then tell us > what the deal is? > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Sep 9 12:44:51 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 11:44:51 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind: friends Message-ID: Ali Davey??? http://hawkwind.com/friends.htm From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 9 13:09:00 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 18:09:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010529132603.022220c0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 May 2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > >He is a good drummer, not the best but he is good one. His style is too > >straightforward but it was ok for heavy metal 80's style. > >There are a lot of much worse drummers, for example Ginger Baker who ruined > >the album Levitation and live shows where he played. > > Ginger Baker a bad drummer? NACK! RST. > And he didn't ruin Levitation IMO. His drumming fits very well in the whole > style of the album. > He isn't the best drummer for playing HW-music (Simon and Richard are the > HW-drum-gods without a doubt), but I prefer his playing many times more > than Danny's 'oomph-ta-oomph-ta-oomph-ta-ta'. > BTW, I wonder what way HW would have gone, if Harvey had been fired and > Jack Bruce brought in as his replacement, as mentioned in Kris' book. I'm mostly entirely in agreement with you; while there's music going on round him Ginger Baker's a subtle complex and fiendishly quick drummer and I think he fits in fine on _Levitation_; I wonder how Alice hears the `album-that-should-have-been'? I always thought it a finished work, I can't really hear anything in there trying to get out... But if Jack Bruce had joined too... I can see the solo spots getting longer, the songs getting shorter... Unlike Mr Baker I rather think Mr Bruce might have wanted a share of the writing and I somehow doubt the Captain would have been too happy with the way he wanted to take it; I think it would have been another `night of the long knives' as per 1976 in very short order! Interesting idea though. Could the two music styles ever have coalesced, anyone think? Yours, Jon ObCD: HW - _The 1999 Party_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Sep 9 14:43:59 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 12:43:59 -0600 Subject: Rarest Yuri Gagarin CD?? Pink Fairy Gas Expulsion In-Reply-To: <021b01c13951$cfcf7b60$139abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: << Is THIS the rarest of all the Yuri's?>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OPA-LOKA ====================================== 1)Never Never Land/Think Pink Demos **2)Never Never Land** (traded LP for Hawk goods- no regret) **3)What A Bunch Of Sweeties** (traded LP for Hawk goods- no regret)** **4)Kings Of Oblivion**(traded LP for Hawk goods-regreted losing 'Raceway'- just bought on CD from you) **5)Kill Em and Eat Em** (a "matured" Fairies sound?? -it has 'white girls on amphetamine' -it's a keeper) **6)Live At Roundhouse/Pink Fairies EP** (traded Japaneese version with OBI for Hawk goods- kept later version with 'Do it 77' EP added) 7)Golden Years 8)Mandies and Mescaline 9)Do It **10)Pleasure Island** (the long one is good isn't it- I should play it again before I die) 11)No Picture 12)Live At Weeley Festival **13)Master Series** (would this be the one from 1990 just called "Pink Fairies" on Polydor that was the first P.F.CD basically, is in my hand now, and in pristine nick?) 14)Uncle Harry> **15)Twink - Think Pink** (I felt that my skull became slightly more bulbous in the rear after having heard this one- kind of like those ancient skulls that were purposely enlarged for some strange reason) **16)Deviants/Farren** (I haven't played this 'Screwed Up' 45 I bought yet- maybe a reason to get a 40oz'er in a brown bag) 17)Andy Colqohoun **18)Pinkwind/Hawkfairies CD's** (Trev's on it) I *did* blast this 45 of 'Between The Lines' and 'Spoiling For a Fight'.... I think my nose pugged for a second or two and I had the sensation I was sitting on a lump sorry for this mostly meaningless and offensive post- m From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 9 13:46:37 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 18:46:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010530015341.02220b40@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 May 2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > >FWIW my favorite Hawkwind drummer between Simon King and Richard Chadwick > >(this might be a good "poll" question since there's about 18 different > >possibilities!) is Clive Deamer (he SMOKES on the 4/26/85 ECT set, and > >effortlessly blows away Danny Thompson on 'Undisclosed Files'). > > I second that, he's very good. Anyone knows why he got sacked/left the band? > BTW, a weird coincidence IMO is, that both Portishead (where Clive Deamer > plays nowadays) and Hawkwind have songs that are very similar/derived > to/from Gustav Holst's "Mars, bringer of War" of his Planets Suite. Okay, it may just be that I always have something else on when I come to consider this question but I can't work out which HW song you mean. I know the Holst well enough, maybe too well and I can't bend it sufficiently? Which do you mean? Yours, Jon (who really must pick up _Undisclosed Files_ when he has money again) -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 9 14:20:04 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:20:04 +0100 Subject: Jon Jarret's ex-hawks list In-Reply-To: <200105311636.RAA17385@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 31 May 2001, M Holmes wrote: > Does anyone have the URL for Jon's website listing the music that the > various ex-hawks have been involved in? The on-line version's well out of date now, I'm afraid, but anyone who can deal with Word 6.0 files can have the latest word-processor versions if they want, just mail me. It's only about a month behind but it gets further so with every mail we get from Judge Trev just at the moment... The on-line version will be updated when I get a few thousand other things done first. Anyway, yes, stuff, yours all, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From coral at APORT.RU Sun Sep 9 17:08:50 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 01:08:50 +0400 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: > drummer and I think he fits in fine on _Levitation_; I wonder how Alice > hears the `album-that-should-have-been'? I always thought it a finished With Richard's drumming of course! :) Sorry, but I hate Baker's style. From coral at APORT.RU Sun Sep 9 17:11:10 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 01:11:10 +0400 Subject: Hawkwind: friends Message-ID: > Ali Davey??? Seems like he officially has changed the name recently, right? From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Sep 9 17:26:57 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 17:26:57 -0400 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: `levitating toad'??? tim Jon Jarrett wrote: > > On Tue, 29 May 2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > > > >He is a good drummer, not the best but he is good one. His style is too > > >straightforward but it was ok for heavy metal 80's style. > > >There are a lot of much worse drummers, for example Ginger Baker who ruined > > >the album Levitation and live shows where he played. > > > > Ginger Baker a bad drummer? NACK! > > RST. > > > And he didn't ruin Levitation IMO. His drumming fits very well in the whole > > style of the album. > > He isn't the best drummer for playing HW-music (Simon and Richard are the > > HW-drum-gods without a doubt), but I prefer his playing many times more > > than Danny's 'oomph-ta-oomph-ta-oomph-ta-ta'. > > BTW, I wonder what way HW would have gone, if Harvey had been fired and > > Jack Bruce brought in as his replacement, as mentioned in Kris' book. > > I'm mostly entirely in agreement with you; while there's music > going on round him Ginger Baker's a subtle complex and fiendishly quick > drummer and I think he fits in fine on _Levitation_; I wonder how Alice > hears the `album-that-should-have-been'? I always thought it a finished > work, I can't really hear anything in there trying to get out... > > But if Jack Bruce had joined too... I can see the solo spots > getting longer, the songs getting shorter... Unlike Mr Baker I rather > think Mr Bruce might have wanted a share of the writing and I somehow > doubt the Captain would have been too happy with the way he wanted to take > it; I think it would have been another `night of the long knives' as per > 1976 in very short order! Interesting idea though. Could the two music > styles ever have coalesced, anyone think? Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: HW - _The 1999 Party_ > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Sep 9 19:51:20 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 00:51:20 +0100 Subject: Pink Fairy Gas Expulsion Message-ID: No - totally different (well....different, anyway) Andy Garibaldi > **13)Master Series** (would this be the one from 1990 just called "Pink > Fairies" on Polydor that was the first P.F.CD basically, is in my hand now, > and in pristine nick?) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Sep 9 21:58:04 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:58:04 -0600 Subject: Thunder Rider In Steel Bird Of White Man In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Got intersting phone call- Negotiations for Nik in USA are being made- apparently he *is* comming- Alabama show being "smoothed" out- finally, a chance to argue that I can be a loser WITHOUT speed.... m From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sun Sep 9 21:25:29 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:25:29 -0500 Subject: Thunder Rider In Steel Bird Of White Man Message-ID: Alabama? That would be great! What part of Alabama? I'm only a 3 hour drive from Mobile......kewl! mike c wrote: > Got intersting phone call- > > Negotiations for Nik in USA are being made- > > apparently he *is* comming- > > Alabama show being "smoothed" out- > > finally, a chance to argue that I can be a loser WITHOUT speed.... > > m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Sep 9 22:59:59 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:59:59 -0600 Subject: Thunder Rider In Steel Bird Of White Man In-Reply-To: <3B9C1688.E91FB2FD@petronet.net> Message-ID: <<"Alabama? That would be great! What part of Alabama? I'm only a 3 hour drive from Mobile......kewl!">> tc Cullman! yes this *IS* proof of alien intelligence- (the location, NOT Nik's arrival) and for the sake of NOT sending another e-mail to this list - new subject- Jill, FoFP, are you reading? check THIS OUT- a person just popped up in Greece with a Greek issued Lord Of Light 45, seems to be a pirate of some sort, circa 77. The following I describe exactly as it reads- It has a WHITE shield on the front, and a large "made in Greece" on the back in Greek. On side "A", there is NO Lord Of Light, but a silly Greek band instead. Side "B" has Brainstorm (BRAINSTORM??)-although both sides of label credit Lord Of Light- m c off to high-level scam mode- From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Sun Sep 9 22:56:20 2001 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:56:20 +1100 Subject: HW:Jerry & Ron Message-ID: Hi just checked the welcome to the future website and noticed a few interesting things. Lineup for the forthcoming tour - Dave, Huw, Richard, Ali, Simon, Tim, Keith! Also noticed that Jerry,Ron & Rizz are lined up to play at the Greasy Truckers gig with Nik, so is this why they aren't playing the Nov tour ? did they jump ships ? What's with this Ali business ? Have Fun Marty From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Sep 10 01:38:04 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 01:38:04 -0400 Subject: Off: subarachnoid space Message-ID: Dan asked... >I see they are playing here next wednesday in the 7th Street Entry. Has >anybody checked them out recently? Anybody else going to see them? Unfortunately, I'm not to be going up to Cleveland to see them and Speaker-Cranker this coming Saturday. But I would definitely recommend seeing them based on hearing their albums, which are inventive improvisational stuff. They're in the same vein as Escapade. Actually it seems kinda funny that they aren't touring around with Acid Mothers Temple, as Mason Jones is big into the Japanese psych/noise scene. Of course, you might remember that SAS was supposedly to be touring last fall with Circle, but they had to cancel due to some emergency. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Doug P., you've certainly seen them haven't you? From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Sep 10 04:56:36 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:56:36 +0100 Subject: HW - off Fairies and stuff Message-ID: What about the one with Wayne Kramer - Cocaine Blues? Rob >From: ANDREW GARIBALDI >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW - off Fairies and stuff >Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 14:30:36 +0100 > >Pink Fairies in a nutshell: >1)Never Never Land/Think Pink Demos >Just out -surprisingly superb, musically and quality wise >2)Never Never Land >ferget it fer now - so deleted it's untrue - great album though >3)What A Bunch Of Sweeties >ditto - but their best ever studio album for sure >4)Kings Of Oblivion >roaring through the airwaves still - Larry's finest half hour >5)Kill Em and Eat Em >never liked this much which is probably why it's deleted!! >6)Live At Roundhouse/Pink Fairies EP >Corker - highly underrated and wicked 'Uncle Harry' - studio tracks are >universally steaming >7)Golden Years >Unrel live and studio tracks, plus the classic Glastonbury Fayre album >tracks incl THE 'Uncle Harry' - pretty good album on the whole >8)Mandies and Mescaline >The BBC Radio One In Concert plus radio sessions, plus the Glasto tracks - >definitive stuff - the 'In Concert' featured the only time this particular >Fairies line-up exists on CD. >9)Do It >more unreleased stuff and Glasto tracks again - completely forgotten what's >on it but doesn't register as essential. Also on pink vinyl >10)Pleasure Island >comeback from Rudolph and Twink - incl a fantastic epic track but now >deleted >11)No Picture >the duo follow-up and come good again - deleted but last few available from >CDS Towers >12)Live At Weeley Festival >On 180 gram vinyl and on CD (in fact may be the 'Do It' thing) but quality >is dire - and I mean dire. >13)Master Series >THE definitive 'Best Of' CD - sadly deleted and rare as rocking horse >droppings - if you see one, GRAB IT!! >14)Uncle Harry >3-sided double LP (sic) of stuff from some CD or other listed above, I >think >(guess whose notes are stuck in the office) >15)Twink - Think Pink >vinyl and CD - 'classic' psychedelia that's a little frayed around the >edges >(I prefer the demos thing, actually) >16)Deviants/Farren >Sorry - not a fan - someone else can do them - we stock them all but no >comments here, I'm afraid >17)Andy Colqohoun >new CD and it's pretty good 'rawk 'n' roll' with the Sanderson, Hunter, >Fithy trio guesting on one track each >Enogh for you, Mike old boy? Don;t anyone say I've missed out something - >'coz I know I have! >18)Pinkwind/Hawkfairies CD's >bit ropey live collaborations - first is deleted - last one's nearly gone. >anyone wanting anything, you know where to come, by now, I hope. >Andy Garibaldi > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "mike c" >To: >Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:18 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind x 2 (I think not) > > > > could you send me out a copy??? what about that Andy C. CD with >Filthy??? > > if it's a rager I'm game.....can you post more about the Pink Fairies > > related stuff?? I am only a novice in that department- but hey! I got > > Kill 'Em and Eat 'Em on CD and 2 vinyl pressings, as I sit meditating on > > how to "BE" the cover...is that so wrongggg?? > > > > mike "bad karma" c _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Mon Sep 10 06:22:13 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:22:13 +0200 Subject: HW: Father and son In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, At 19:46 09.09.2001, Jon Jarrett wrote: > > BTW, a weird coincidence IMO is, that both Portishead (where Clive Deamer > > plays nowadays) and Hawkwind have songs that are very similar/derived > > to/from Gustav Holst's "Mars, bringer of War" of his Planets Suite. > > Okay, it may just be that I always have something else on when I >come to consider this question but I can't work out which HW song you >mean. I know the Holst well enough, maybe too well and I can't bend it >sufficiently? Which do you mean? "The Iron Dream" I don't know if it's in 5/4 like "Mars" at the moment (I doubt it, but I don't have the Quark CD here) but the basic melody is definitely the same. And I think it's not a coincidence that TID was always played together with "Uncle Sam" at gigs. (c)IAO D+R np: Skinny Puppy, "Doomsday - live in Dresden" From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Mon Sep 10 08:36:35 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:36:35 -0400 Subject: Off: Grant Richter and F/i Message-ID: Hi, A friend of mine who doesn't like Hawkwind or spacerock or anything but has an interest in synthesizers just sent me this link by pure chance if anyone's interested. http://www.musicsynthesizer.com/DIY/Grant/grant_richters_synthdiy.htm This F/i look like my kind of band, can anyone recommend any of their music? CDs especially. Alastair. From coral at APORT.RU Mon Sep 10 10:00:05 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:00:05 +0400 Subject: HW:Jerry & Ron Message-ID: > What's with this Ali business ? He converted to Islam and changed the name. From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Mon Sep 10 10:45:49 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:45:49 -0400 Subject: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) In-Reply-To: <003201c1387e$5accf1e0$b0b61e3e@gypo> Message-ID: Sorry to sound so ignorant, but what is this Metal Shield release of which you speak? I have figured out that it is a HW release, and I'm guessing it is "WotEoT", but are there any details about it? On-line photos, perhaps? NP: Eloy / Ocean 2 Ship From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Mon Sep 10 10:48:55 2001 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:48:55 -0400 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: The Iron Dream is the Hawkwind track which is the same chord progression as Holst's Mars Jeff From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Sep 10 10:55:14 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:55:14 -0400 Subject: HW:Calvert influences In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Layla wrote: > Oasis and America are two things that were thrown together for the sake of > money and popularity... Nice! :-) > Definatly Maybe is one album that I would very happily recommend to any self > respecting "rock and roll" fan.... I've never heard anything by them pre-Wonderwall. I'll see if I can find a free taste of it on the Web somewhere. I still have my doubts about them though. > but, I'm still hoping that Noel can do a little something on his own.... Well, he has a nice Union Jack guitar. Now he just needs to go do something worthwhile with it. ;-) Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio There is no Dana, only Zuul http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From tclark at PETRONET.NET Mon Sep 10 10:50:00 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:50:00 -0500 Subject: Thunder Rider In Steel Bird Of White Man Message-ID: Cullman? How did they find that place? Throw a dart at a map? No matter, I'd make the road trip regardless......who would Nik be touring with? mike c wrote: > <<"Alabama? That would be great! What part of Alabama? I'm only a 3 hour > drive from Mobile......kewl!">> tc > > Cullman! > > yes this *IS* proof of alien intelligence- (the location, NOT Nik's arrival) > > and for the sake of NOT sending another e-mail to this list - > > new subject- Jill, FoFP, are you reading? check THIS OUT- > > a person just popped up in Greece with a Greek issued Lord Of Light 45, > seems to be a pirate of some sort, circa 77. The following I describe > exactly as it reads- It has a WHITE shield on the front, and a large "made > in Greece" on the back in Greek. On side "A", there is NO Lord Of Light, > but a silly Greek band instead. Side "B" has Brainstorm > (BRAINSTORM??)-although both sides of label credit Lord Of Light- > > m c off to high-level scam mode- From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Sep 10 11:07:02 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:07:02 -0400 Subject: OFF: Blur (was Re: HW:Calvert influences) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Layla wrote: > I like it cause i like music with a very strong beat to it Like, that "Woo! Hoo!" song? That was catchy, but it was killed by massive radio play for me--and also the fact it was played at just about every sporting event. I had that album for awhile, but eventually sold it because there were only about three songs I could really get into. It was certainly ambitious, but most of it missed the mark for me. Same for Park Life. I haven't heard any of their latest album(s). Does their newer stuff sound like the "Blur" album, or have they moved onto something different? Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio There is no Dana, only Zuul http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Sep 10 12:23:03 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:23:03 -0600 Subject: Thunder Rider In Steel Bird Of White Man In-Reply-To: <3B9CD318.58521FF0@petronet.net> Message-ID: <<"Cullman? How did they find that place? Throw a dart at a map? No matter, I'd make the road trip regardless......who would Nik be touring with?">>Tom C The understanding I got was that it is a result of a large fan of Mr Quimby's Beard residing there, who is a key to this location mystery...... I am in touch with Judge Trev now, and can tell you it is DEFINATE, as well as further confirmation from the party that is handling Nik's affairs over here- I am sorry but I forgot who the other musicians are to be, though I did hear who they were, and this is NOT a Farflung /Pressurehed thing, it is something else- I am hoping that Nik will get to grace the stage with other acts, as well as the time spot he has been alotted, which I don't think is great- but this may change??? things always seem to, and it *is* the Nik god- only one little problem- if Trev is not there, the Hells Angels have promised to cause pandemonium on a scale much worse than Altemont ......and the price was very reasonable......either way, I will be highly amused, very drunk, and grinning ear to ear... m From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Mon Sep 10 11:42:39 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:42:39 -0400 Subject: HW:Jerry & Ron Message-ID: I talked to Keith Knivetoon at Canterbury (before HW played) and asked him if Jerry was there (seeing as HLL had rejoined). Keith's words were "No, Jerry's not here tonight - and neither is Ron". That's all he said and I am guessing about this, but I thought there was a bit of emphasis there, meaning "they've both been sacked". I repeat this is not established fact but speculation on my part. Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:56:20 +1100, Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA] wrote: >Hi >just checked the welcome to the future website and noticed a few interesting >things. >Lineup for the forthcoming tour - Dave, Huw, Richard, Ali, Simon, Tim, >Keith! >Also noticed that Jerry,Ron & Rizz are lined up to play at the Greasy >Truckers gig with Nik, so is this why they aren't playing the Nov tour ? did >they jump ships ? > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Sep 10 13:03:40 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:03:40 -0600 Subject: Thunder Rider In Steel Bird Of White Man In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ok Ok I am scared of you list people- so the Hell's Angels thing WAS OF COURSE bent humor, only Hawkwind Angels that I know of attending, and I'll be busy trying to keep my balance with the beer gut out front, if I make it to the event....I haven't stood up in a few years.....risky... Trev wants to come.... m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Sep 10 13:15:39 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:15:39 -0600 Subject: ThunderNik Turner in USA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: sorry about all these posts again but it occurs to me that people may not realize that Nik is playing not just Alabama, but the whole Strange days fiasco as far as I understand...... whatever it is, I have paid no attention to it, until now..... m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Sep 10 14:23:31 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:23:31 -0600 Subject: ThunderNik Turner in USA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That annoying mike c said: <<"but it occurs to me that people may not realize that Nik is playing not just Alabama, but the whole Strange days fiasco as far as I understand...... whatever it is, I have paid no attention to it, until now".....>> Please replace the word "fiasco", with the word "ordeal" in your minds I just looked up the word. oops- haha m From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sun Sep 9 15:27:46 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:27:46 +0100 Subject: Ginger's Nuts - apparently Message-ID: Interesting discussion. The Mail this Saturday ran a small feature on Ginger, who appently is now 62 and living with his horses and dogs in South Africa. In it he claims never to have got on with Jack Bruce at all. Ginger, says the article, will be a feature of an upcoming new series of After They Were Famous. You have been warned. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Jarrett To: Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 6:09 PM Subject: Re: HW: Father and son > On Tue, 29 May 2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > > > >He is a good drummer, not the best but he is good one. His style is too > > >straightforward but it was ok for heavy metal 80's style. > > >There are a lot of much worse drummers, for example Ginger Baker who ruined > > >the album Levitation and live shows where he played. > > > > Ginger Baker a bad drummer? NACK! > > RST. > > > And he didn't ruin Levitation IMO. His drumming fits very well in the whole > > style of the album. > > He isn't the best drummer for playing HW-music (Simon and Richard are the > > HW-drum-gods without a doubt), but I prefer his playing many times more > > than Danny's 'oomph-ta-oomph-ta-oomph-ta-ta'. > > BTW, I wonder what way HW would have gone, if Harvey had been fired and > > Jack Bruce brought in as his replacement, as mentioned in Kris' book. > > I'm mostly entirely in agreement with you; while there's music > going on round him Ginger Baker's a subtle complex and fiendishly quick > drummer and I think he fits in fine on _Levitation_; I wonder how Alice > hears the `album-that-should-have-been'? I always thought it a finished > work, I can't really hear anything in there trying to get out... > > But if Jack Bruce had joined too... I can see the solo spots > getting longer, the songs getting shorter... Unlike Mr Baker I rather > think Mr Bruce might have wanted a share of the writing and I somehow > doubt the Captain would have been too happy with the way he wanted to take > it; I think it would have been another `night of the long knives' as per > 1976 in very short order! Interesting idea though. Could the two music > styles ever have coalesced, anyone think? Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: HW - _The 1999 Party_ > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Sep 10 14:15:50 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:15:50 +0100 Subject: HW - off Fairies and stuff Message-ID: someone here sold it before I had reviewed it so can't pass comment just yet. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rob burton" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:56 AM Subject: Re: HW - off Fairies and stuff > What about the one with Wayne Kramer - Cocaine Blues? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Sep 10 14:02:43 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:02:43 +0100 Subject: Off: Grant Richter and F/i Message-ID: 'Helioscopium' is absolutely essential listening , a mix of early Floyd, Dead, Hawkwind and Gong served all wrapped up in a very original and highly charged style - in stock now at CDS if you want one quickly. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair Lee Sumner" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:36 PM Subject: Off: Grant Richter and F/i > Hi, > A friend of mine who doesn't like Hawkwind or spacerock or anything but has > an interest in synthesizers just sent me this link by pure chance if > anyone's interested. > > http://www.musicsynthesizer.com/DIY/Grant/grant_richters_synthdiy.htm > > This F/i look like my kind of band, can anyone recommend any of their > music? CDs especially. > > Alastair. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 10 13:59:25 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:59:25 +0100 Subject: Ginger's Nuts - apparently In-Reply-To: <000201c13a21$10763a80$940c28d5@starfield> Message-ID: Capt. Black wrote re Ginger's Nuts - apparently: >In it he claims never to have got on with Jack Bruce at all. AFAIAA, Ginger Baker never got on with anybody. Or maybe it was that nobody ever got on with Ginger Baker. Or, quite possibly, both :) Meanwhile: Hello all! After my longest session of BOC-L NOMAIL (I wasn't _actually_ unsubscribed) since joining the list in 1992, I'm back. (Now watch the subscription numbers plummet :) Hope everyone is well and rockin'! Cheers, Carl From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Sep 10 17:45:43 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:45:43 EDT Subject: Off: Grant Richter and F/i Message-ID: In a message dated 9/10/01 5:36:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK writes: > This F/i look like my kind of band, can anyone recommend any of their > music? CDs especially. > > Alastair. Absolutely. Creative, heavy, usually-instrumental Space-Rock, w/awesome synth and guitar, a definite "go" for all HW fans, maybe the best pure Space-Rock band of the last 2 decades. It's a good time to become interested in F/i, as the Lexicon Devil label out of Australia has just begun to reissue their early vinyl-only releases (extremely rare). Out so far are: Space Mantra ('88 LP) and Boy Dirt Car Split ('86 EP) on one disc. E-mail Doug Pearson or Dave Lang for info regarding this release. Also Lex. Dev. has just reissued the first Voco Kesh album ("Ispepnaibara") along w/an EP from a split with F/i. VK is primarily the space-rock project of Richard Franecki, who left F/i in '90. This first album is excellent. Another excellent F/i CD "Helioscopium" can also be obtained from Doug P. (I think there are some left?) as it was released on his Ceres label in '97. These 2 F/i CD's will give you a good taste of '80s and '90s F/i, the latter being much more polished production-wise. These two and an excellent '80s retrospective CD released on RRRecords (their early label) are all I have been able to obtain on CD, the latter being pretty rare... They also have excellent exclusive tracks on 3 CD's that I know of: Cleopatra's "Space Box" 3-CD comp ("Boots of Ascension"), Mother West's "Turn Century Turn" comp ("Space Station") and Submergence's 2-CD "Flourescent Tunnelvision" comp ("Quantum Foam"). (All of which are recommended in general.) I'm sure Doug will be along soon to add much more, as I believe he has all their releases and is a friend/associate. Chuck PS: Go to , and click the "bands in alphabetical order" link to see some reviews and the band-link page to see their home-page... From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Sep 10 18:23:12 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:23:12 -0400 Subject: NIK: Re: ThunderNik Turner in USA Message-ID: MC hammered.... >sorry about all these posts again > >but it occurs to me that people may not realize that Nik is playing not >just Alabama, but the whole Strange days fiasco as far as I understand...... Huh? Nik is coming over to play? I'm sorry, I musta missed something. Is he coming to perform with MQB or something? I could hardly imagine a Nik/Harvey duo...that would be just too weird. Please elaborate. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Yeah, I think Jerry told me that this one guy in Cullman, AL is a big spacerock fan for some strange reason. P.P.S. Is the Falcata-Galia Farflung CD out yet? From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Sep 10 23:31:38 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:31:38 +0800 Subject: Live Legends DVD Message-ID: Hi Andy Saw this one listed on the latest catalouge & am very interested! Will it be a limited release, as I haven't seen it listed elsewhere? I already have it on LD, but will be glad to be able to get the DVD version, as it's more compact (I'll probably end up selling the LD). There's some other titles in the catalogue that I'm also interested in, such as the Dave Brock demos, Anubian Lights, Simon House, & tons of others! Anyway, bye for now William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Sep 10 23:42:50 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:42:50 +0800 Subject: Live Legends DVD Message-ID: Hi all That last one was meant to go to Andy at CD Services. Sorry about that folks. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Duffy" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:31 AM Subject: Live Legends DVD > Hi Andy > > Saw this one listed on the latest catalouge & am very interested! Will it be > a limited release, as I haven't seen it listed elsewhere? I already have it > on LD, but will be glad to be able to get the DVD version, as it's more > compact (I'll probably end up selling the LD). > > There's some other titles in the catalogue that I'm also interested in, such > as the Dave Brock demos, Anubian Lights, Simon House, & tons of others! > > Anyway, bye for now > William > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Sep 11 02:34:40 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:34:40 -0600 Subject: NIK: Re: ThunderNik Turner in USA In-Reply-To: <200109102338.TAA26877@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <<"MC hammered...." "Please elaborate".>> Hi Keith- I think he has an hour time slot were we stand, I want to say that Steve Taylor's name bounced off me, but I could be grain bamaged, I am sorry.......and there was a third person... I am surprised Carol has not posted on this, as she said she would..... Carol????? as I said- I am in regular contact with Judge Trev, and he has confirmed it as well....... not sure if Harvey will duet with Nikolas or not.... I leave this issue with you greater qualified, more highly trained Space Rockers, at this point, and I retreat to see how it devolops and hear from YOU!!! cheers Keith "you can't touch this" hehe m From coral at APORT.RU Tue Sep 11 05:49:56 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:49:56 +0400 Subject: Live Legends DVD Message-ID: Where did you see it? From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Sep 11 08:23:32 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:23:32 +0100 Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: I've never heard anything by them pre-Wonderwall. I'll see if I can find a free taste of it on the Web somewhere. I still have my doubts about them though. yeah... give it a shot though... might be worth it.. you never know... even my DAD quite likes some Oasis tunes... and he is REALLY picky!!!! LOL! > but, I'm still hoping that Noel can do a little something on his own.... Well, he has a nice Union Jack guitar. Now he just needs to go do something worthwhile with it. ;-) yeah.. that IS a nice guitar.... (became close to buying one of those once.. but decided that anyone OTHER than a ROCK STAR playing it would just look a bit silly and desperate!!) Got my little Gibson Epiphone instead.... Noel DID do some music solo... along with a few other people... I forget what they called themselves now... only did one album though.. and I dont have it does anyone else remember that? I think it was released about a year ago.. maybe a little more? Layla From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Sep 11 09:37:45 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:37:45 +0800 Subject: Live Legends DVD Message-ID: It's listed in the latest catalogue from CD Services. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:49 PM Subject: Re: Live Legends DVD > Where did you see it? > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Sep 11 10:13:19 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:13:19 -0400 Subject: Treworgey 1989 Guitarist Message-ID: Hello all, Last night I was watching the Treworgey Tree Fayre 1989 video and was rather surprised to see someone who looked like Jerry Richards playing guitar during the encore. Bernhard's wonderful lists do not mention him as being presnt but they do mention Bridgett Wishart, who was definitely not there. Can anyone confirm that it was Jerry or, if not, who it was? Thanks, Colin From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Sep 11 10:12:29 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:12:29 +0100 Subject: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S Message-ID: TURN ON YOUR TV'S OR RADIOS OR WHATEVER, SHOCKING NEWS, UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Sep 11 10:19:46 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:19:46 -0400 Subject: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S In-Reply-To: <003301c13acb$cb08acc0$2aee7ad5@djsatan> Message-ID: > TURN ON YOUR TV'S OR RADIOS OR WHATEVER, SHOCKING NEWS, > UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please, all NYC listmembers write in and let us know that you're OK. From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Sep 11 10:23:47 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:23:47 -0500 Subject: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Brian Halligan wrote: :Subject: Re: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S : :> TURN ON YOUR TV'S OR RADIOS OR WHATEVER, SHOCKING NEWS, :> UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : :Please, all NYC listmembers write in and let us know that you're OK. Also DC listmembers...a coworker just told me they took out the pentagon? the news sites are understandably impossible to get to right now.... Arin (no tv here and still hunting for information) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Sep 11 10:29:59 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:29:59 -0400 Subject: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Also DC listmembers...a coworker just told me they took out the pentagon? > the news sites are understandably impossible to get to right now.... > > Arin > (no tv here and still hunting for information) For everyone who can't get to info through normal channels, updates are being kept on this non-news site (actually for the new Lord of the Rings movies): http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1000215900 From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Sep 11 10:36:08 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:36:08 +0100 Subject: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Brian Halligan wrote: > > Also DC listmembers...a coworker just told me they took out the pentagon? > > the news sites are understandably impossible to get to right now.... > > > > Arin > > (no tv here and still hunting for information) > > For everyone who can't get to info through normal channels, updates are > being kept on this non-news site (actually for the new Lord of the Rings > movies): > And, fwiw, Radio 4 is now broadcasting news only for the rest of the afternoon. From prjt2501 at PTD.NET Tue Sep 11 10:37:51 2001 From: prjt2501 at PTD.NET (Project2501) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:37:51 -0400 Subject: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pentagon was plane suicide bombed, it appears, and there was just a verified car bombing outside the State Dapartment in DC. ... Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] On Behalf Of Arin Komins > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:24 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Brian Halligan wrote: > > :Subject: Re: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S > : > :> TURN ON YOUR TV'S OR RADIOS OR WHATEVER, SHOCKING NEWS, > :> UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > : > :Please, all NYC listmembers write in and let us know that you're OK. > > Also DC listmembers...a coworker just told me they took out > the pentagon? the news sites are understandably impossible to > get to right now.... > > Arin > (no tv here and still hunting for information) > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Sep 11 10:50:09 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:50:09 -0500 Subject: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Brian Halligan wrote: :Subject: Re: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S : :> Also DC listmembers...a coworker just told me they took out the pentagon? :> the news sites are understandably impossible to get to right now.... :> :> Arin :> (no tv here and still hunting for information) : :For everyone who can't get to info through normal channels, updates are :being kept on this non-news site (actually for the new Lord of the Rings :movies): : :http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1000215900 Chicago's loop is being evacuated. latest rumor has something going down in pennsylvania. further rumor....about 20 miles from pittsburgh. pentagon is in the process of collapsing now. 2nd plane on its way to pentagon now. oh dear..... Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Tue Sep 11 11:45:10 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:45:10 -0400 Subject: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S Message-ID: Not sure if it's true but I've heard that the London Stock Exchange and Canary Warf have been evacuated and London is on some kind of security alert. Alastair. On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:50:09 -0500, Arin Komins wrote: >On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Brian Halligan wrote: > >:Subject: Re: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S >: >:> Also DC listmembers...a coworker just told me they took out the pentagon? >:> the news sites are understandably impossible to get to right now.... >:> >:> Arin >:> (no tv here and still hunting for information) >: >:For everyone who can't get to info through normal channels, updates are >:being kept on this non-news site (actually for the new Lord of the Rings >:movies): >: >:http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1000215900 > >Chicago's loop is being evacuated. > >latest rumor has something going down in pennsylvania. > >further rumor....about 20 miles from pittsburgh. > >pentagon is in the process of collapsing now. > >2nd plane on its way to pentagon now. > >oh dear..... > >Arin >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu >Manager of Web Systems Architecture >University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 >1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 >------------------------------------------------------------------ From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Sep 11 11:46:00 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:46:00 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Maybe this the just the beginning of Revelation 18 - The Fall of > Babylon. > Check it out! > From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Sep 11 12:19:44 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:19:44 -0500 Subject: OFF: [Fwd: Islands in the Clickstream. The Only Thing We Have to Fear. Sept 11, 2001] Message-ID: ********************************************************************** Islands in the Clickstream is an intermittent column written by Richard Thieme exploring social and cultural dimensions of computer technology and the ultimate concerns of our lives. Comments are welcome. Richard Thieme is a professional speaker, consultant, and writer focused on the impact of computer technology on individuals and organizations - the human dimensions of technology and work - and "life on the edge." ********************************************************************** Islands in the Clickstream: The Only Thing We Have to Fear The world just changed forever. War was declared on the whole world. A friend from the National Security Agency told me recently how difficult it was to convince audiences lately of the of the real threat from asymmetrical warfare. The enemy is doing what it can to understand our collective mind, he said, and then will use the weakest link in our armor to strike terror into our collective hearts. And so they have. With a simple coordinated attack the assumptions of the American people were changed forever. We live in America, I have been saying, as if it were America and not Israel. In Israel people know they are in Israel. They live accordingly. Now we know too. War is hell. It calls forth from us the best and the worse in our all-too-human natures. And now everyone knows what many have known for years, that we are at war. Which means understanding who the enemy is and what it means to fight this war. The first war is against fear and terror, as Franklin Roosevelt said. Nameless, unreasoning fear that distorts our thinking and feeling and changes the way we live our lives. Fear in the face of real threats is appropriate. Our collective task will be to distinguish real from illusory threats, real from imagined enemies, and stay as clear-thinking and focused as we can as we identify what is important in our lives and makes efforts to secure and defend what matters most. So what, in moments like these, do we know? We know that the first people we thought of are the most important people in our lives. The people we wanted to be with or who we feared were dead or injured or vulnerable to attack, those are the people that matter most. Then that bond must expand and include all on whom we rely, all on whom we depend, all on whom we will call in the days and weeks and months ahead as comrades, friends, and allies. This is a moment that will ask everything of us as we struggle to attack and defend ourselves from real enemies and define our circles of loyalty and kinship with precision and care. The enemy is fear, terror, and falsehood. Our allies are courage, strength in the face of adversity, resilience and flexibility and our capacity to respond to whatever life brings with genuine heroism. These are the marks of the freedom that lives in our souls. Freedom is our capacity to live life as it is fired at us point blank from the barrel of a gun and never surrender that which makes us human and that which makes us free. The world has changed, now, forever, and the boundaries that we draw around ourselves, who is in and who is out, will change forever too. We will discover who we really are in the weeks ahead. But I know from fifty-seven years on this fragile planet who we are in our best moments and I pray that we have the courage to be who we are. I think of how I responded to someone who was worried that when I left the ministry, it meant that I had lost my faith in the existence of God. Do you believe, she asked, in God? Yes, I said, in my heart I know that God exists. But, I added. Thinking of the horror. Thinking of the oppression in people's lives. Thinking of the bloodshed. That doesn't mean things aren't as bad as they look. Our challenge now is to know both are true. Things are every bit as bad as they look and people do evil things and rejoice in the bloodshed. And in my heart I know that God exists and is manifest in freedom, freedom from fear and terror, the freedom to respond to whatever life brings with dignity, elasticity, and heroism. The only thing we have to fear now is fear, the primary weapon of our enemies. Because I know who we are, I know that we have what it takes to do what is necessary now, how we must structure our world and our lives, and how we must rededicate ourselves to the creation of a global society in which freedom and not fear and terror are the hallmarks of our humanity. ********************************************************************** Islands in the Clickstream is an intermittent column written by Richard Thieme exploring social and cultural dimensions of computer technology and the ultimate concerns of our lives. Comments are welcome. Richard Thieme is a professional speaker, consultant, and writer focused on the impact of computer technology on individuals and organizations - the human dimensions of technology and work - and "life on the edge." Feel free to pass along columns for personal use, retaining this signature file. If interested in publishing columns online or in print or employing Richard as a professional speaker, retreat leader or consultant, email for details. To subscribe to Islands in the Clickstream, send email to rthieme at thiemeworks.com with the words "subscribe islands" in the body or subject heading of the message. To unsubscribe, email with "unsubscribe islands" in the message. Or subscribe at the web site www.thiemeworks.com. Islands in the Clickstream (c) Richard Thieme, 2001. All rights reserved. ThiemeWorks on the Web: http://www.thiemeworks.com and http://www.richardthieme.com ThiemeWorks P. O. Box 170737 Milwaukee WI 53217-8061 414.351.2321 ********************************************************************* From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Sep 11 14:32:44 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:32:44 +0100 Subject: Live Legends DVD/Anubian Lights Message-ID: Hi, The 'Live Legends' DVD will be out in Oct/Nov, preceded by a free multi-artist promo DVD exclusively from CD Services to anyone ordering anything from the time the promos arrive to the time we get rid of them all, although which of the label's artists will be on the free DVD I have yet to be told. Meanwhile here's some Anubian Lights info for our Euro-mainland cousins.......sadly the UK remains untouched yet again. Crippled Dick Hot Wax! Newsletter, 11.09.01 Crippled Dick Hot Wax! present an extraordinary party tour with psychedelic visuals and belly dance: ** DJ MIMOK ** (Crippled Dick Hot Wax / Berlin) *** SEKSU ROBA *** (live / L.A.) ****** ANUBIAN LIGHTS ****** (live / L.A.) The ANUBIAN LIGHTS are Tommy Grenas and Len Del Rio from Los Angeles. Both have played in several space- and krautrock bands like Hawkwind, Chrome, Damo Suzuku (Can)... meanwhile they are well-known for their fantastic and groovy electronic lounge sound. Their influences reach from Martin Denny exotica over krautrock to Middle-East orientalica. Their live performance with charming belly dancing girl Spencer is a very special experience, a tempting and hypnotic show. With their album Naz Bar they are in the US CMJ charts since 8 weeks. LA Weekly: '' ... exotic trip into your outer crabgrass with groovie pop toe-tappers and sample-laden tuneage that'll deliver you unto faraway lands and galaxies, or teenbeat terrains, Neu horizons and dynamic desert shores with their non-sulky milky ways. So fasten your seatbelts please...'' SEKSU ROBA is an uniquely entertaining psychedelic Japanese-Korean electronic group from LA. using mini-moog, theremin, samples and sexy grooves. Seksu Roba creates futuristic music for mind expansion, making love, and exploring outer space. In typical live shows, producer Sukho Lee plays a mean Theremin, a 7 foot tall robot named ''Erector'' (designed by Victor White) gyrates, and artist/vocalist/performer Lun*na Menoh hypnotizes audiences. DJ MIMOK from the Crippled Dick Hot Wax Headquarter in Berlin, known for his remixes (Popshopping / Ubiquity), will be spinning some nice & sleazy Crippled Dick Style tunes. VJ FRED from L.A. is in charge for all the visual pleasure. 04.10. GER Hamburg, Kunstraum 05.10. GER Dresden, Parkhotel 06.10. GER Berlin, Roter Salon 10.10. FR Paris, Batofar 11.10. GER Rottweil, Bahnhof 12.10. CH Bern, Reitschule 13.10. CH Aarau, Kiff 14.10. GER Cologne, MTC 16.10. GER Munich, Atomic Cafe 17.10. A Wien, B72 18.10. IT Trieste, Teatro Miela 19.10. IT Taranto, Bologna 20.10. IT Catania, Mercati Generali 21.10. IT Bari, Rom Andy Garibaldi (CD Services) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Sep 11 15:35:27 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:35:27 -0600 Subject: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: typical day for me, you know, going to store to buy toy indoor-outdoor electric flying UFO discs for me and a friend first thing in the morning,,,,,, Got turned around comming home due to detour attempt because of traffic accident..... ended up at the airport, and got lost first at the perimeters, then internally.... I have been here a million times, but today, everything seemed "different" PHYSICALLY....was weird,.,,,,,had hell finding my way out properly.....(but not because of any activity there, though looking back there were a lot of police) I did wonder why there were so many planes on the runway I guess one of the pandemonium bandidos made a bomber out of a jet from there- m c From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Sep 11 14:48:49 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:48:49 +0100 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: Okay, this time I really am convinced. Thanks for the scan by the way. I compared it with an old photo from the fan club site and even comparing with a 25+ year old photo, it sure looks like he! Cheers f. rat Bryan Young wrote: > Oops, sorry about that! > > I'm using the wrong computer right now, and don't have my scan of Lemmy > playing the violin. It's unavailable to me until this weekend, when I > return to the farm. > > If anybody wants this image, go ahead and email me offlist. I'll save all > the requests and send them all at once this weekend. > > It's a small jpg, probably about 100K, so don't worry if you're on a slow > connection. > > Thanks, > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: fatrat > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:13 PM > Subject: Re: HW: What The... > > >Sorry to be a party-pooper, but I'm still not 100% convinced. Although I > can > >believe the warts and the hat (does he weigh the same as a duck?) the jaw > still > >looks wrong. > > > >Having gone to Bill Bradley's site and nicked the vid from it, I have > >freeze-framed and am not sure. There is a remarkable resemblance, but > that's > >what people told me 20 years ago about the roadie I mentioned (though I've > never > >seen him in the flesh). > > > >Ah well, perhaps we'll never know. > > > >"Guido N. Vacano" wrote: > > > >> Yeah, that'd cover up the warts (cocoa puffs), but what about his TEETH? > :-) > >> > >> Guido > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > >> Behalf Of BL Young > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:02 PM > >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >> Subject: Re: HW: What The... > >> > >> There are plenty of pictures with Lemmy wearing that type of hat. I > think > >> it's from his collection -- doesn't it look like an army type hat from > some > >> era? > >> > >> And his warts are on the side of his face that the violin would obscure. > >> Actually, if he wanted to hide those warts and be a true teen idol, he > >> should have picked up the violin instead of the guitar. > >> > >> Bryan > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: fatrat > >> To: > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:57 PM > >> Subject: Re: HW: What The... > >> > >> > I have a feeling we are all misinformed: after seeing Mr Kilmister on a > >> recent > >> > late night show, the violin-wielding "Lemmy" in question looks a) too > >> clean b) > >> > too small-jawed c) not warty enough and d) I don't think the real Lemme > >> > Kilmister is the line-dancing type! (see cowboy hat). Bernard Manning > >> doing the > >> > dishes and nice Daleks I can believe but that is NOT the real Lemmy. I > >> believe > >> > it is a cunning body-double. Some years ago I heard of a roady > >> (co-incidentally > >> > known as "Fast Eddy") who looks so much like Lemmy that after repeated > >> requests > >> > he started signing Lemmy's autograph when asked, in order to get > >> > over-enthusiastic fans off of his back. I think it is he and not the > >> > diesel-drinking steel-throated fish-looking singing bass murderer (ie > >> killing > >> > with his four-stringed Rickenbacker, not murdering bass lines!). If > anyone > >> has > >> > any further info, I would be interested. > >> > > >> > Neil Ward wrote: > >> > > >> > > So, Keith, you admit to watching 'Coronation Street' then do you??? > >> > > > >> > > I presume this is simply to worship the spirits of the one known as > >> > > Khenbaaarloooooo, and not because you are an incurable soap fan. > >> > > > >> > > Neil. > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > >> > > To: > >> > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:16 PM > >> > > Subject: HW: What The... > >> > > > >> > > There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between > >> Coronation > >> > > Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like > >> Lawrence > >> > > Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically > >> about > >> > > his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section > >> playing > >> > > on the soundtrack. > >> > > > >> > > Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. > >> > > > >> > > No joke. From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Sep 11 14:53:29 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:53:29 +0100 Subject: Very OFF: weird shit Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 9/4/01 10:31:01 PM, hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK writes: > > << n/p: Disarray - `Shrieking Monster Who Could Not Die' >> > > "the armies came and he smashed 'em all flat; > he conquered the planet > and that was that > the rules of man > just didnt apply > to the.....etc" > > "<>" "No he bleedin' didn't! It must have been some other f****er" f. rat (aka hawkfan@ etc.) From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Sep 11 15:04:26 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:04:26 +0100 Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 9/5/01 6:19:07 PM, m.j.crook at TALK21.COM writes: > > << Anyone remember the "Sounds" review of "Anarchy in the UK"? "Sounds like > >Silver Machine" it said... and it does... (a bit) :) > > >> > > this one would suggest the who's "substitute", as opposed to the > 4-chords-ascending of "silver machine"... > > "<>" please bear in mind the relative nature and direction of time and the possibility of someone playing "anarchy" backwards to see if it had any nice, non-devil-worshipping lyrics on it. f. rat From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Sep 11 15:08:44 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:08:44 +0100 Subject: HW:Calvert influences Message-ID: Nick Medford wrote: > > I dimly recall that in the Flipside interview with Dave and Rich from '89, > one of the interviewers (someone from Black Flag, I'm sure others will > remember the guy's name but I don't) offers the opinion that the 'God Save > The Queen' riff was a close relative to 'Ejection'. Sorry to mention it, like, but the "Ejection" riff is not that far removed from "All I want is to be next to you!" Police (sorry, I really am so very sorry for pointing that out). f. rat From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Tue Sep 11 15:38:06 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:38:06 -0400 Subject: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S In-Reply-To: <000f01c13acf$77e32260$996fe518@msns.sm.ptd.net> Message-ID: No bomb outside of the State Department. Ship > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Project2501 > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:38 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S > > > Pentagon was plane suicide bombed, it appears, and there was just a > verified car bombing outside the State Dapartment in DC. > > ... > > > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] On Behalf Of Arin Komins > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:24 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S > > > > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Brian Halligan wrote: > > > > :Subject: Re: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S > > : > > :> TURN ON YOUR TV'S OR RADIOS OR WHATEVER, SHOCKING NEWS, > > :> UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > : > > :Please, all NYC listmembers write in and let us know that you're OK. > > > > Also DC listmembers...a coworker just told me they took out > > the pentagon? the news sites are understandably impossible to > > get to right now.... > > > > Arin > > (no tv here and still hunting for information) > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Sep 11 17:53:42 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:53:42 -0600 Subject: (OFF) ladies and gents, introducing In-Reply-To: <3B9E6039.10DAA2E@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: the Orgasmatron http://www.paramountzone.com/orgasmatron.htm From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 11 17:10:01 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:10:01 -0400 Subject: (OFF) ladies and gents, introducing Message-ID: > the Orgasmatron http://www.paramountzone.com/orgasmatron.htm Stress relief... I guess this is good timing :-( Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Tue Sep 11 17:16:38 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:16:38 -0400 Subject: Song for the day of infamy... Message-ID: Blue Oyster Cult, CULTOSAURUS ERECTUS, "Divine Wind"... I'm really, really pissed... Regards, Craig Shipley mr_ship at bellsouth.net (home) cshipley at veritas.com (work) From CCollins54 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 11 18:44:59 2001 From: CCollins54 at AOL.COM (CCollins54 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:44:59 EDT Subject: NIK: Re: ThunderNik Turner in USA Message-ID: Here is the latest update on Nik Turner joining the Strange Daze 2001 festival. There is currently a show scheduled for October 24, 2001 - Wednesday at J. J. Kelly's - we are waiting for final confirmation. Nik is coming to Chicago on the 23rd - that is confirmed! Jim Lascko has given him an hour at each show - not sure how long at Strange Daze - finalization of a lot of these events are being worked out. I am sure that Jim will be updating his website. You are probably asking who is going to play with Nik? Well that will be a surprise and I know you will enjoy it. So come out - support them in Chicago, attend the two day festival in Cleveland - get the word out in Alabama as we hear that the venue holds a lot of people - a small stadium approximately 5,000. This will be the first time we know of that this type of show will happen in St. Petersburg - so do what you can to let everyone know down there. Jim Lascko says they are trying to finalize an Atlanta show! If there is anyone who can help Jim Lascko schedule a show, call Jim Lascko and he will get you the help you need to support the tour. The appearance of Nik should really boost this tour making Mr. Quimby's Beard a psychedelic household word across the States! Don't forget about the show in Milwaukee on October 19th - and Columbus on the 22nd - a Sunday - if you want to keep enjoying the music - you have to keep supporting the bands. I have unleashed all of my mental powers to get Nik into this tour and Strange Daze (and put a band together). I hope no one will be offended by this comment but put the truth where it belongs. We need Nik and as many of you know we will probably never see Dave again or a band that can legally hold the name of Hawkwind so let's thank God for who we do have and give them our best. The Nik shows will be considerably limited in Hawkwind songs due to the wishes of Jim. Everyone will have to understand that this is not a "Hawkwind" tour. Nik has said that this show will be unlike any other show that he has done and I have put into the setlist some amazing goodies. We will hear some Hawkwind, some Inner City Unit, free jams, unheard of heavy metal psychedelic poetry, and outlandish noises that will send shivers into your inner most being. Is it the beginning of something new or is it the end of everything? This is a "Mr. Quimby's Beard" tour. You have to really respect Harvey and Nik for boosting this band by humbling themselves to be opening bands. Again, this has been a lot of work. Please support this tour with the utmost of your abilities. Last year Jim said that there would never be another Strange Daze due to lack of attendance. Jim Lascko has sacrificed EVERYTHING - ALL AND ALL - to make these shows work. I will repeat his words again - if you don't support this, you may never get anything like this again. Peace and Love, Jim Collins From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 11 19:23:46 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:23:46 +0100 Subject: NIK: Re: ThunderNik Turner in USA In-Reply-To: <119.46e6cc0.28cfedeb@aol.com> Message-ID: >Nik has said that this show will be unlike any other show >that he has done and I have put into the setlist some amazing goodies. We >will hear [...] free jams, unheard of heavy >metal psychedelic poetry, and outlandish noises that will send shivers into >your inner most being. Is it the beginning of something new or is it the end >of everything? Surely this is the point of "Hawkwind", though, after all? Cheers, Carl From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Tue Sep 11 18:03:40 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:03:40 -0400 Subject: OFF(and on) Message-ID: my god what a horrible today,tv at work,nothing done all day... (i guess alan davey picked a bad time to turn muslim,eh?) how could anyone call themselves human and countenance the kind of death & destruction of innocents that has happened today. i used to know a guy who worked in the wtc,i hope to god he didn't work there anymore. prayers to all of the nyc listmembers tim From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 11 21:26:56 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 02:26:56 +0100 Subject: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S In-Reply-To: Alastair Lee Sumner's message of Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:45:10 -0400 Message-ID: Alastair Lee Sumner writes: > Not sure if it's true but I've heard that the London Stock Exchange and > Canary Warf have been evacuated and London is on some kind of security > alert. true, but nothing much happened here except that overflight of London has been banned and the FTSE100 Index fell 5.7% before being closed an hour early. Next up could be global financial meltdown, which was also probably part of the plan. FoFP From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 12 01:36:21 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:36:21 +0100 Subject: Live legends Message-ID: Any extras on the Live legends DVD? Mind you just having that one on DVD will be nice enough. Nick From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 12 07:09:02 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:09:02 +0100 Subject: New Yorkers? Message-ID: Has anyone heard from Bill, Ben , Ron et al? Mike From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Sep 12 07:48:32 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:48:32 +0200 Subject: New Yorkers? In-Reply-To: <200109121109.MAA14019@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi At 12:09 12.09.2001 +0100, you wrote: >Has anyone heard from Bill, Ben , Ron et al? Received a mail from ELI FRIEDMAN today He is OK (but of course shocked) Bernhard From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 12 07:52:46 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:52:46 +0100 Subject: Treworgey 1989 Guitarist Message-ID: > Hello all, > > Last night I was watching the Treworgey Tree Fayre 1989 video and was > rather surprised to see someone who looked like Jerry Richards playing > guitar during the encore. Bernhard's wonderful lists do not mention him as > being presnt but they do mention Bridgett Wishart, who was definitely not > there. Can anyone confirm that it was Jerry or, if not, who it was? > Not watched for a while but I'm pretty damn sure that Bridget performed 'Back In The Box' with them there (I was there too). It's definitely Jerry during the encore. Nick From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 12 08:20:56 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:20:56 +0100 Subject: New Yorkers? In-Reply-To: Bernhard Pospiech's message of Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:48:32 +0200 Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech writes: > Hi > At 12:09 12.09.2001 +0100, you wrote: > >Has anyone heard from Bill, Ben , Ron et al? > > > Received a mail from ELI FRIEDMAN today > > He is OK (but of course shocked) Yeah, we're all pretty shocked, though the folks in the middle of it clearly go beyond that. My sympathies to anyone with kith and kin involved in this, and that must amount to a percentage of the US population. Mike From ben at TMK.COM Wed Sep 12 08:24:30 2001 From: ben at TMK.COM (Ben Cohen) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:24:30 -0400 Subject: New Yorkers? In-Reply-To: <200109121109.MAA14019@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from fofp@HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK on Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 12:09:02PM +0100 Message-ID: > Has anyone heard from Bill, Ben , Ron et al? I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm OK. Thankfully, I'm not working in Manhattan since February since I used to be in the building across the street from the southern tower. Ben (a rather shaken native Manhattanite living/working in New Jersey) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 12 08:29:15 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:29:15 +0100 Subject: New Yorkers? In-Reply-To: Ben Cohen's message of Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:24:30 -0400 Message-ID: Ben Cohen writes: > > Has anyone heard from Bill, Ben , Ron et al? > > I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm OK. Thankfully, I'm not working in > Manhattan since February since I used to be in the building across the street > from the southern tower. Great to hear from you Ben, and my sympathies for what's happened over there. If you hear from the others could you let us know? Mike From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Sep 12 08:28:53 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:28:53 +0200 Subject: Treworgey 1989 Guitarist In-Reply-To: <001901c13b81$712c6780$0644fc3e@andyspc> Message-ID: Hi At 12:52 12.09.2001 +0100, you wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Last night I was watching the Treworgey Tree Fayre 1989 video and was >> rather surprised to see someone who looked like Jerry Richards playing >> guitar during the encore. Bernhard's wonderful lists do not mention him >as >> being presnt but they do mention Bridgett Wishart, who was definitely not >> there. Can anyone confirm that it was Jerry or, if not, who it was? >> > >Not watched for a while but I'm pretty damn sure that Bridget performed >'Back In The Box' with them there (I was there too). It's definitely Jerry >during the encore. Yeah I also saw a guitarrist who looked very much like Jerry Richards on the Treworgey video He played a couple of gigs with Dave Brock in 1988/1989 (HawkDog) Bernhard From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Sep 12 08:39:34 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:39:34 +0100 Subject: The shit starts here Message-ID: whoever did this, anti Muslim feelings have escalated in the last 24 hours, and will continue to escalate if the mentality below escalates. SCARY TIMES ARE NEVER DULL, but at what cost to humanity ? THIRD WORLD WAR ANYONE??? >From uk.islam.religeon; Tired of your old toilet paper? Try new "Koran" toilet paper! Wipe your ass with surahs from the Koran, and flush them away! It's all shit anyway. See how it makes Muslims behave? To the Cowards at Ground-Zero September 11, 2001 They come into this land of ours And hijack planes into our towers Innocent lives don't mean a thing To the bastards the Taliban are harboring They want to play their game over here? Let's give them a radioactive Bronx cheer! We got the nukes We got the power Let's send an ICBM shower Time to kick bin Ladin's ass Turn the Taliban into glass Drop the big one on Saddam And see if that brings some salaam While we're at it, make a copy And send it off to good ol' Khaddafi We got the nukes We got the power Let's send an ICBM shower They don't care about civilians They laugh while buildings fall on children They clap and cheer while little ones Fall before their roaring guns It's time to clean up the environment Nuking them's the first requirement We got the nukes We got the power Let's send an ICBM shower We really tried to give peace a chance While around the truth Yassar Arafat danced He made a big fool out of Clinton Well this time we won't just be hintin' We've put up with this shit too long Gonna teach these assholes a different song We got the nukes We got the power Let's send an ICBM shower What did you think that we would do? Just run off someplace and hide from you? We got some friends we'd like you to meet Like Mr. Stealth Bomber and Cruise Missile Pete And right behind them are a million troops Lookin' for your cowardly asses to whoop We got the nukes We got the power Let's send an ICBM shower The last time something started out this way We ended it with a package from the Enola Gay We proved back then that we would use it We just didn't think you were dumb enough to choose it But -- hell! -- we've got so many laying 'round When we send a few to you won't you tell us how they sound? We got the nukes We got the power Let's send an ICBM shower From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 12 08:44:18 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:44:18 +0100 Subject: Treworgey 1989 Guitarist Message-ID: > >Not watched for a while but I'm pretty damn sure that Bridget performed > >'Back In The Box' with them there (I was there too). It's definitely Jerry > >during the encore. > > Yeah I also saw a guitarrist who looked very much like Jerry Richards on > the Treworgey video > > He played a couple of gigs with Dave Brock in 1988/1989 (HawkDog) > > > Bernhard Tubilah Dog also played at the festival, albeit on the free travellers' stage outside the main festival. Nick From ben at TMK.COM Wed Sep 12 08:46:46 2001 From: ben at TMK.COM (Ben Cohen) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:46:46 -0400 Subject: ADMIN: List usage In-Reply-To: <002a01c13b87$fcb79d00$692f073e@djsatan>; from Djsatan.23@BTINTERNET.COM on Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 01:39:34PM +0100 Message-ID: Folks, I know that there are going to be extraordinarily strong emotions following yesterday's events. [Believe me - even from central New Jersey, I could see the smoke cloud.] However, aside from using the list as a tool to get in contact with other people, I'd appreciate it (and I'm sure others will join me in saying this) if we can keep ANY politics about this off the list. Regardless of our politics or beliefs, I'm sure that we all have very strong feelings about this. However, this is not the place to air them and so I ask this. Thank you and please keep the victims of this atrocity in your thoughts. Ben Cohen (A native Manhattanite who can't believe the towers are gone...) From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Sep 12 09:52:27 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:52:27 +0100 Subject: BOClist & Pollyticks Message-ID: I must point out that I was not airing political views, just trying to let everyone know that there are nutters on both sides, and we need to be calm and rational, no matter how strong the emotions run. All death by anothers hand is abbhorent. My own sister lives out there, and could very easily been caught up in this. PEACE From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Sep 12 09:58:52 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:58:52 -0700 Subject: OFF(and on) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm not by any means a religious person, but I do know that there is a VAST difference between Islam ('muslim'), which is an enlightened, caring belief system, and the extremist Islamism, which is NOT. It's kind of like the difference between true (?) believing Christians and those who invoke the name of Jesus whilst wearing hoods and burning crosses and hanging humans. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:04 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF(and on) (i guess alan davey picked a bad time to turn muslim,eh?) ,,, tim From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Wed Sep 12 11:03:04 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:03:04 EDT Subject: New Yorkers Under Attack Message-ID: Hi Hawk Friends, Thanks to everybody who expressed concern for those here in New York. I am fine, as is everybody I know about . I did have quite the experience yesterday, though. I got up out of the subway, and onto the streets of lower Manhatten at my usual time, about 8:35 AM, and went for a little walk before heading up to the video studio where I work, which is just above Canal Street, about a mile or less north of the World Trade Towers. As I was doing what I do best, smoking my breakfast, on the quiet, deserted streets of Soho, (it's a neighborhood that comes alive at night with clubs and bars, but is quite quiet in the early morning hours,) I saw a large commercial jet zooming at what seemed an insanely low altitude above the streets, coming right over West Broadway. I thought it seemed very low, and in the time it took me to say to myself "I'm sure the pilot knows what he's doing" I got to turn my head to follow its flight right into the side of the South Tower. It left a ten story gaping hole in the famous building. The few people in the area stood amazed, jaws hanging. It looked like an effects shot from an unmade James Bond film. It was surreal. As cold as this may seem to some, I thought right away about the fact that I was 2 blocks from the studio that I work at, where there are several broadcast quality cameras, and our tenth floor location, with its 360 degree wrap around glass windows, and spectacular view of the skyline. I dashed up there, and got our crew going to set up cameras and start videotaping. Within minutes of setting up we were taping the awful image of a second plane striking the second tower, and an hour later we witnessed the towers come crumbling,unbelieveably, impossibely down. Since our studio works frequently with ABC TV news, they thought of our location right away, and for many hours yesterday, we were providing tape and news feed to various TV and radio media. And in case this is all coming off too detached,(believe me I'm not), I just want to mention that each new developement as it happened was met with the most horrible, terrified shrieking of our receptionist and interns who were basically stationed at the windows, and who watched on in disbelief and fear as the second plane roared into our field of vision headed in the direction of our building and collided into the side of the tower. It was quite the trip getting out of Manhatten last night to get back home to Long Island. Today lower Manhatten is completely shut down, and our studio can't open today. They expect things will open up tomorrow. I'm glad to be home today.I still can't believe the scale and scope of what I witnessed, and I feel lucky that I was where I was and not 1/2 a mile south where my friend got out of his subway station a few blocks from the trade center and looked up to see dozens leaping from 80 floors up. It was more than I could bear to see it all from 20 blocks away. I feel a little like an unpunished Lot's wife, too, but I must say, when it happens right in front of you devastation is riveting. It never occured to me to turn away. I'm not sure what it means, but it isn't making me that happy. Think I'll go listen to some Hawkwind, and try to lose the blues. Thanks to evrybody...sory to be so off topic..but I was getting a few of e-mails from list members and thought I could send out a group response here. Peace, right? Eli Friedman From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 12 12:36:28 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:36:28 -0400 Subject: Treworgey 1989 Guitarist Message-ID: I have just watched it again (I have now transferred all my videos to Video CD so that I can watch them at work:)) and it is definitely Jerry, even down to the powder blue Fender Strat. Regards, COLIN From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Sep 12 12:53:48 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:53:48 GMT Subject: BOC: BOC in Blastitude Message-ID: http://www.blastitude.com/9/pg3.htm from aug. sept. 2001...and clicking to look at the next page talks about Nik Turner (incidentally) and Bones of Elvis on the Radio. J --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Sep 12 13:39:17 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:39:17 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Message-ID: wonder whether "Assassins of Allah" will be dropped from the set in November? BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBALLAH! HMMMMMMMMMM From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Sep 12 14:21:58 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:21:58 +0100 Subject: OFF(and on) Message-ID: I hope Ben will not regard this as political but surely, following Mike's opinion earlier, the danger is that the western world will talk itself into a recession/meltdown if it is not careful - when you're at your lowest, you surely have to find something that will start you on the road back up. Andy Garibaldi From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Wed Sep 12 14:04:42 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:04:42 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <001501c13bb1$d995ae00$c172073e@djsatan> Message-ID: and Urban Guerilla and Angels of Death and...? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Daniel Jackson Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:39 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkwind wonder whether "Assassins of Allah" will be dropped from the set in November? BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBALLAH! HMMMMMMMMMM From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Sep 12 14:34:24 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:34:24 -0400 Subject: Off: Grant Richter and F/i Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:36:35 -0400, Alastair Lee Sumner wrote: >A friend of mine who doesn't like Hawkwind or spacerock or anything but has >an interest in synthesizers just sent me this link by pure chance if >anyone's interested. > >http://www.musicsynthesizer.com/DIY/Grant/grant_richters_synthdiy.htm ... and that's just Grant (Richter, synth player from F/i) "messing around". His actual product is at: http://www.wiard.com/ I own a complete system and can vouch for the fact that it COMPLETELY rules. Probably the best spacerock machine to come along since the VCS3. >This F/i look like my kind of band, can anyone recommend any of their >music? CDs especially. Chuck did a pretty good job of covering it all. Since you're in the UK, Andrew Garibaldi will be your best source for F/i material. The only thing I'll add to Chuck's message is that there's a distinct possibility that a Voco Kesh (the band led by Richard Franecki, who was Grant's predecessor in F/i and who, like Grant, owns a Buchla series 200 modular synthesizer) CD will be released on Ceres Records (yeah, I know it's been a while) later this year. Details, however, are not yet firm ... -Doug From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Sep 12 14:37:04 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:37:04 +0200 Subject: Treworgey 1989 Guitarist In-Reply-To: <200109121636.MAA11466@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi Colin At 12:36 12.09.2001 -0400, you wrote: >I have just watched it again (I have now transferred all my videos to Video >CD so that I can watch them at work:)) and it is definitely Jerry, even >down to the powder blue Fender Strat. Thanks for this info. Bernhard From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Sep 12 16:39:32 2001 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:39:32 -0400 Subject: New Yorkers? In-Reply-To: <200109121109.MAA14019@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >Has anyone heard from Bill, Ben , Ron et al? et al is still here as are all the other Brain Surgeons and our families. Thanks, Al From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Sep 12 16:53:36 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:53:36 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Message-ID: I wouldn't mind any input from the band about the "Black-September" lyrics ... Not sure what to make of it. Is this Nostradamus prediction also stated correctly? In the 15th century, the famous French physician, philosopher and oracle, Nostradamus wrote: "...in the 9th month there shall come from the sky a great 'King Of Terror'...nothing will stop the destruction in the 'New City'..." Just looking for facts. Thanks, Karen Hassan I Sabha ============== Hashish-hashin Hashish-hashin Hashish-hashin Hashish-hashin Hashish-hashin Hashish-hashin Hashishin Black-September Black-September Black-September Black-September Black-September Black-September Black-September Death unto all infidels, in oil Guide us o thou genie of the smoke Lead us to a thousand and one nights In the perfumed gardens of delight Petro-dollar Petro-dollar Petrol-D'allah Petrol-D'allah Petro-dollar Petro-dollar Petro-dollar It is written in the soul of the desert It is written in the signs in the stars It is written in the sands of the hour-glass It is written It is written in the eye of the falcon It is written in the shade of the scorpion It is written in the wealth of the sun It is written It is written that man's truth is a mirage It is written that death is an oasis It is written for all unbelievers It is written Mark Licht wrote: > > and Urban Guerilla and Angels of Death and...? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Daniel Jackson > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:39 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Hawkwind > > wonder whether "Assassins of Allah" will be dropped from the set in > November? > > BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBALLAH! > > HMMMMMMMMMM From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Sep 12 17:22:07 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:22:07 +0100 Subject: Re; Black September Message-ID: Black September were a terrorist group in the 70's, don't know much more than that, except it would've been Bob Calverts' reference point. that Nostrodamus prediction is pretty spooky, if accurate...... may I also add Death Trap, Widowmaker, and Aerospaceage Inferno to the nonsetlist peace From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Wed Sep 12 17:19:48 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 23:19:48 +0200 Subject: Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <3B9FCB50.584F0EEC@execpc.com> Message-ID: Hi Karen. >I wouldn't mind any input from the band about the "Black-September" >lyrics ... > >Not sure what to make of it. > >Is this Nostradamus prediction also stated correctly? Not really... "Black September" were a Palestinian terror group responsible for the kidnapping and death of Israeli athletes during the Summer Olympics of 1972 in Munich (there's a very good docu abou this issue btw) beside other terroristic acts during the 70s. But it's a strange coincidence (?), that this terrible thing happens during a "black" Sepetmber. >In the 15th century, the famous French physician, philosopher and >oracle, Nostradamus wrote: "...in the 9th month there shall come from >the sky a great 'King Of Terror'...nothing will stop the destruction in >the 'New City'..." I think with hindsight you can interpret almost everything into Nostradamus' verses. And there's also the problem with the correct translation of those old French texts (and some of it is just gibberish). >Just looking for facts. I hope this helps a bit. (c)IAO D+R From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Sep 12 18:13:52 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 23:13:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) Message-ID: thought someone else might have already replied by now - the shield we speak of is the Hawkwind CD 'Undisclosed Files' issued as a ltd edition attached to the back of a solid metal shield that is the design on the cover of the 'Doremi' album in silver coloured metal, quite a heavy little sucker, and very well designed. It was released as a ltd edition of 300 or so, completely by accident, as EBS and Griffin were meant to be doing it as a joint operation for a completely different CD project, but then EBS presumably dropped/cancelled the project only someone forgot to tell Griffin who by then had manufactured a load. Initially they weren't 'allowed/supposed' to sell them, but then, fed up with having them as the most expensive table leg prop-up tool known to man in the office, they slipped a few out. Then we came along as CDS and they slipped a whole load out, officially by this time I gathered, as the Hawk camp had seen it in our catalogue (yes, we do send them out to the band members if we can) and didn't know the first thing about it, so we told them accordingly. That's been rumbling on as we took what we thought to be the last 100 or so, but turns out they still had about 50-60 left and that is what has been turning up at the HMV Oxford St shop. I gather there are now only a handful left and we'll be getting what I presume to be a final delivery of the thing in a week or so, at the bargain price (you should have seen what it was up to now) of ?35 approx, so order now or that's it - gone!! Hope this answers the question, Andy Garibaldi andygee at dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Shipley" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:45 PM Subject: Re: HW: Metal Shield number? (was Re: HMV Oxford Street) > Sorry to sound so ignorant, but what is this Metal Shield release of which > you speak? I have figured out that it is a HW release, and I'm guessing it > is "WotEoT", but are there any details about it? On-line photos, perhaps? > > NP: Eloy / Ocean 2 > > Ship From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 12 19:01:58 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:01:58 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010912231301.023685d0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: At 23:19 +0200 12.09.2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: >>In the 15th century, the famous French physician, philosopher and >>oracle, Nostradamus wrote: "...in the 9th month there shall come from >>the sky a great 'King Of Terror'...nothing will stop the destruction in >>the 'New City'..." > >I think with hindsight you can interpret almost everything into >Nostradamus' verses. And there's also the problem with the correct >translation of those old French texts (and some of it is just gibberish). There seem to be several Nostradamus/NYC hoaxes floating about the internet, and this is one of them. Boy, though -- if you're worried about politics on this list, it ain't *nuthin'* compared to what I'm seeing on the Gov't Mule list, which I also just rejoined. Some of the people there have mindsets that are indistinguishable from terrorists themselves. Christ ... Cheers, Carl From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Wed Sep 12 22:18:05 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:18:05 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind/OT In-Reply-To: <3B9FCB50.584F0EEC@execpc.com> Message-ID: People seem to be misquoting Nostradamus. The references to 'City of York', 'The New City' & 'Terror from the sky at 45 degrees' come from 3 different quatrains relating to 1999 , The New City & one other. But the relevant points from all 3 seem to being bundled into one verse to make it seem even spookier than it really is. After all to even get close to predisting things 400 years in the future is some feat. I did hear one Nostradamus quatrain saying that the world would end on the turn of the millenium, so why were there more quotes mentioning later dates as we wouldn't have been here anyway? The true reason to the lyrics in Hassan I Sahba may have been only truly known by the late Bob Calvert. My twopenneth. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Karen Kusic Sent: 12 September 2001 16:54 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkwind I wouldn't mind any input from the band about the "Black-September" lyrics ... Not sure what to make of it. Is this Nostradamus prediction also stated correctly? In the 15th century, the famous French physician, philosopher and oracle, Nostradamus wrote: "...in the 9th month there shall come from the sky a great 'King Of Terror'...nothing will stop the destruction in the 'New City'..." Just looking for facts. Thanks, Karen Hassan I Sabha ============== Hashish-hashin Hashish-hashin Hashish-hashin Hashish-hashin Hashish-hashin Hashish-hashin Hashishin Black-September Black-September Black-September Black-September Black-September Black-September Black-September Death unto all infidels, in oil Guide us o thou genie of the smoke Lead us to a thousand and one nights In the perfumed gardens of delight Petro-dollar Petro-dollar Petrol-D'allah Petrol-D'allah Petro-dollar Petro-dollar Petro-dollar It is written in the soul of the desert It is written in the signs in the stars It is written in the sands of the hour-glass It is written It is written in the eye of the falcon It is written in the shade of the scorpion It is written in the wealth of the sun It is written It is written that man's truth is a mirage It is written that death is an oasis It is written for all unbelievers It is written Mark Licht wrote: > > and Urban Guerilla and Angels of Death and...? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Daniel Jackson > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:39 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Hawkwind > > wonder whether "Assassins of Allah" will be dropped from the set in > November? > > BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBALLAH! > > HMMMMMMMMMM From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 12 16:00:57 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:00:57 +0100 Subject: OF: Thoughts Message-ID: I hope Ben will not mind if I send my heartfelt condolences to everyone touched by this. I wish I could add something Hawkwind to bring it on topic but I can't just now. Just my sympathy. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Sep 12 18:01:43 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:01:43 -0500 Subject: Re; Black September Message-ID: Thanks Dan & Denis - Thanks for the input. I didn't know about the Black September terrorist group. This explains a lot. I hope this type of discussion on the list is OK. It's Hawkwind lyric related and informative. No political bashing going on. I find our group enlightening and informative. Fun too! Peace, Karen Daniel Jackson wrote: > > Black September were a terrorist group in the 70's, don't know much more > than that, except it would've been Bob Calverts' reference point. > that Nostrodamus prediction is pretty spooky, if accurate...... > may I also add Death Trap, Widowmaker, and Aerospaceage Inferno to the > nonsetlist > peace From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Sep 12 19:16:21 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:16:21 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Message-ID: ...i fly the silver machine... tim Mark Licht wrote: > > and Urban Guerilla and Angels of Death and...? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Daniel Jackson > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:39 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Hawkwind > > > wonder whether "Assassins of Allah" will be dropped from the set in > November? > > BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBER, BLACK SEPTEMBALLAH! > > HMMMMMMMMMM From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Wed Sep 12 19:45:02 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:45:02 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind/OT In-Reply-To: <000201c13bfa$52d1d2b0$630e2cc3@thrupoint.net> Message-ID: The 45 degree stuff comes from Century 6, Quatrain 97: "The sky will burn at forty-five degrees, fire approaches the great new city. Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up when they want to have proof of the Normans". (Translated, of course). There are a few other quatrains relating the the "new city". And since the original message was given without any reference, like so much "information" on the internet, there was reason enough to be cautious. Alasdair On 12 Sep 01, at 22:18, ejobson wrote: > People seem to be misquoting Nostradamus. The references to 'City of York', > 'The New City' & 'Terror from the sky at 45 degrees' come from 3 different > quatrains relating to 1999 , The New City & one other. But the relevant > points from all 3 seem to being bundled into one verse to make it seem even > spookier than it really is. After all to even get close to predisting things > 400 years in the future is some feat. I did hear one Nostradamus quatrain > saying that the world would end on the turn of the millenium, so why were > there more quotes mentioning later dates as we wouldn't have been here > anyway? > > The true reason to the lyrics in Hassan I Sahba may have been only truly > known by the late Bob Calvert. > > My twopenneth. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Karen Kusic > Sent: 12 September 2001 16:54 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Hawkwind > > > I wouldn't mind any input from the band about the "Black-September" > lyrics ... > > Not sure what to make of it. > > Is this Nostradamus prediction also stated correctly? > > In the 15th century, the famous French physician, philosopher and > oracle, Nostradamus wrote: "...in the 9th month there shall come from > the sky a great 'King Of Terror'...nothing will stop the destruction in > the 'New City'..." From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Sep 12 19:45:17 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:45:17 -0500 Subject: OFF: False Prophecy - Urban Legends Reference Pages Message-ID: http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/hoaxes/predict.htm From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Sep 12 19:24:00 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:24:00 -0400 Subject: off(But not by much) Message-ID: two questions: 1)where is MQB going to be playing in st.pete,fl(only 50 miles from here-damn near next door in florida distances)? 2)does anyone remember who did the song `devil's answer" about 1970 or '71. was it family or atomic rooster?? thanks tim From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 12 21:45:43 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 02:45:43 +0100 Subject: OFF(and on) In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:21:58 +0100 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > I hope Ben will not regard this as political but surely, following > Mike's opinion earlier, the danger is that the western world will talk > itself into a recession/meltdown if it is not careful I'm less pessimistic given the recovery in the Footsie today. The falls in the east aren't really commensurate with a market capitulation. Airlines and insurance will be gutted of course. My real worry is how out of whack the derivatives players bets will be when the US markets come back online, and just how much leverage they'll have stacked up on top of it. As LTCM showed, buildings aren't he only thing that can pancake. We may regret the refusal to regulate the hedge funds. I guess we won't know until we know though. FoFP From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Sep 12 21:46:11 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:46:11 EDT Subject: off(But not by much) Message-ID: it was atomic rooster, an a-side not originally on an lp but now a bonus track on the repertoire cd of 'in hearing of atomic rooster' why do you ask? bobm From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Wed Sep 12 23:05:55 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:05:55 -0500 Subject: Off: SUBARACHNOID CANCELLED Message-ID: Well I went down to see the show. The venue cancelled the show due to the terrorism. In observance of it. I think I would have preferred the show, I've thought enough about the slime. Sitting home sulking doesn't do it for me. I do feel bad for the band driving to Minneapolis and not getting to play. I guess to anybody else heading out to see shows; call ahead and make sure they are not cancelled. From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Sep 12 23:43:23 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 23:43:23 EDT Subject: OFF: Budgie/Help! Message-ID: Hi anybody have a copy of Budgie's 'aint no mountain'/'honey' 45? i need an mp3 or summa of the b-side sent stat... bobm From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Sep 13 00:51:56 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:51:56 EDT Subject: OFF-TOPIC: Degrees to terroristic disaster (as opposed to "Kevin Bacon") Message-ID: Greetings brethren, sistren, from Lawrence, or DASLUD, or "L'menexe", depending on who you are. My sister Debi works in Richmond, VA. Her employer is "Swett and Crawford", owned by, or a division of, the AON Corporation. We spoke on the phone tonight. The AON Corporation occupied the top four floors of one of the towers of the World Trade Center, the one hit by the second terror jet on tuesday. *poof*! or is that *kaboom*! 1100 people occupying those top four floors. ...which dont exist anymore. My sister is paid by direct deposit; she's not sure how her next paycheck from the AON Corporation will show up. If only that was the least of her concerns; she doesnt live check-to-check, like her older brother has done. ...But this gets worse. Apparently, the son of "Swett and Crawford"s vice president, at "pilot school" in Florida with ambitions of one day flying for NASA, had a classmate at "pilot school". According to my sister, this "classmate" had driven from Florida to Boston and got on a jet...which became the second jet to hit the WTC... With the "assistance" of his fellow terrorists who had hijacked the jet, he may have been the pilot of the jet after the "real" pilot had been overcome and probably killed. Supposedly, the "real" pilot, under those circumstances, would have tried to fly into the ocean, not into a building. I was a bit dazed while my sister was telling me this; I hope I have described the scenario accurately. I wouldnt make this up. And I said _dazed_, not _stoned_; believe me, I would much rather have been stoned. What I've said is not common knowledge to the media....yet. If ever. For the foreign readers, there's a sort of game known as "six degrees to Kevin Bacon"; named for the actor Kevin Bacon. For example, I had an older friend = I called him a "mentor" = who knew, and/or was a lover of = Leonard Bernstein, Dizzy Gillespie, Billie Holliday, Aaron Copeland, dancer Martha Graham, and some other cultural icons of that era. Therefore, going from moi to my "mentor" to these people, you are now three "degrees" away from these cultural icons. ...and going from moi, to my sister, to that company vice president, to his son, to that terroristic pilot, you are now five "degrees" away from monday's attack on the World Trade Center. I think that's how the "game" is "played". I never really "played" it before. ...and i would _still_ rather be stoned. Good night. Welcome to World War III. "<>" Daslud L'menexe From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Sep 13 01:06:43 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:06:43 -0500 Subject: OFF: Budgie/Help! Message-ID: Here's a link for you: http://www.cybercom.net/~breadfan/ I was on the Killing Joke mailing list with this guy, Ron, years ago. He's a *huge* Budgie fan. Maybe he can help you out? Send him an email. Rock on, Karen "Robert C. Mayo" wrote: > > Hi > anybody have a copy of Budgie's 'aint no mountain'/'honey' 45? i need an mp3 > or summa of the b-side sent stat... > bobm From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Sep 12 22:45:28 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:45:28 -0400 Subject: off(But not by much) Message-ID: remember hearing it when i lived in london in 70-71 and have been thinking of adding it to my cd collection(but couldn't remember who it was).thanks for your help tim Robert C. Mayo wrote: > > it was atomic rooster, an a-side not originally on an lp but now a bonus > track on the repertoire cd of 'in hearing of atomic rooster' > > why do you ask? > bobm From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Thu Sep 13 06:39:54 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:39:54 EDT Subject: OFF: Budgie/Help! Message-ID: thank you much karen!!! bobm From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Sep 13 13:11:23 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:11:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Some more for completists Message-ID: I'm sure we're all in need of a smile, so here's a couple more CDs for Hawkwind collectors to pick up: http://www.bandofgold.net/audio.html -- Andy www.andygilham.com From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Sep 13 14:31:36 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:31:36 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: there is a world meditation chain starting tonight at nine, light a candle and think of peace pass this on to as many as poss From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Sep 13 15:03:32 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:03:32 -0400 Subject: world meditation chain In-Reply-To: <002801c13c82$5b337ac0$5d49073e@djsatan>; from Djsatan.23@BTINTERNET.COM on Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 07:31:36PM +0100 Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 07:31:36PM +0100, Daniel Jackson wrote: > there is a world meditation chain starting tonight at nine, light a candle > and think of peace > pass this on to as many as poss Local time wherever you are, I presume? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Sep 13 15:03:58 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:03:58 -0400 Subject: Off: SUBARACHNOID CANCELLED Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:05:55 -0500, Dan Witt wrote: >Well I went down to see the show. The venue cancelled the show due to the >terrorism. In observance of it. > >I think I would have preferred the show, I've thought enough about the >slime. Sitting home sulking doesn't do it for me. > >I do feel bad for the band driving to Minneapolis and not getting to play. > >I guess to anybody else heading out to see shows; call ahead and make sure >they are not cancelled. Yeah, I tried to see Mike Watt on tuesday night, and was not at all surprised to find it cancelled. He's the kind of guy who would have something serious and insightful about the horrible events of the day, but given the circumstances, a cancellation was not inappropriate. Fortunately, I'd already had the opportunity to *play* rock'n'roll that evening, which went a long way to helping my mind get "back to normal". -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Sep 13 15:05:25 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:05:25 +0100 Subject: world meditation chain Message-ID: sorry, 9pm British standard time....... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Siegerman" To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:03 PM Subject: Re: world meditation chain > On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 07:31:36PM +0100, Daniel Jackson wrote: > > there is a world meditation chain starting tonight at nine, light a candle > > and think of peace > > pass this on to as many as poss > > Local time wherever you are, I presume? > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > necessarily a good idea. > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Thu Sep 13 16:05:42 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:05:42 -0500 Subject: Off: sub spider space Message-ID: The minneapolis show has been rescheduled at a different venue on September 25th. Skye Klad / New Port / Subarachnoid Space // 9PM sursumcorda $4 From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Sep 13 19:56:27 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:56:27 -0400 Subject: off:thank-you Message-ID: to all our english friends: just saw footage of the changing of the guard when they played `the star-spangled banner' first time i've been able to cry over this whole mess. thank you so much for your moral support,and i'm sure from everyone else on this side of the pond also. tim From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Sep 13 21:29:25 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:29:25 -0500 Subject: OFF: Sonicblue releases CD players for MP3s - Tech News - CNET.com Message-ID: Cool! http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-7141367.html From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Sep 13 22:06:43 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:06:43 EDT Subject: New Yorkers? Message-ID: In a message dated 9/12/2001 8:29:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: << Has anyone heard from Bill, Ben , Ron et al? >> Been on vacation, all is well here! Ron is in Virginia. Thanks for your concern. Best regards, Bill Stewart From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Sep 14 00:25:16 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:25:16 EDT Subject: off(But not by much) Message-ID: In a message dated 9/12/01 6:48:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes: > it was atomic rooster, an a-side not originally on an lp but now a bonus > track on the repertoire cd of 'in hearing of atomic rooster' > Bob, the song is on my LP version of In Hearing Of, a U.S. pressing. btw: Census of Hallucinations does a very decent cover of the song on their self-titled album... Chuck PS: Listened to the "Joke" album for the first time in years the other day...nice job! OBLP's almost bought today--Arab on Radar From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Sep 14 00:55:25 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:55:25 EDT Subject: HW: Cassettes! Message-ID: figures, I find fairly interesting material, but it's on cassette...oh well... first up: "Night of the Hawk", AVM Records, '89, also released on CD It's mostly '80s re-hash material...the only version I don't have being the Hawklords 7" "Who's Gonna Win the War" (oops, there's another one...sigh), but 2 versions already is enough for me...so if any hardcore Kollector is interested in this, shoot me a line. But yeah, I know it's a cassette that was also released on CD, so... Also picked up Flicknife cassette of Friends/Relations 2 and 3 on a single cassette. This is neat, I'm hearing some stuff for the first time. "Psychedelia Lives" seems longer here than the one on the Best of F/R, though I could be wrong... "Drug Cabinet Key" of course is just Hawklord's "Flying Dr.", minus the didj, but a good version. "Wired Up for Sound" I'm assuming is from Brock's Earthed to the Ground album? Very nice. Who does "Work", is this ICU? And "Man w/the Golden Arm"? I know, I can check the Codex, but then I wouldn't have posted this note! Thought it'd be good to keep the HW content going... Chuck From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Fri Sep 14 02:50:22 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 02:50:22 -0400 Subject: HW: Cassettes! Message-ID: Chuck, Work is credited to Martin Griffin. At this time he was also working with Richard Strange (& the Doctors of Madness). Don't know who is on the track with him but it is a pretty good rant sort of song. Man With The Golden Arm is Nik Turner. Mark On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:55:25 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >figures, I find fairly interesting material, but it's on cassette...oh well... [snip] >Also picked up Flicknife cassette of Friends/Relations 2 and 3 on a single >cassette. This is neat, I'm hearing some stuff for the first time. >"Psychedelia Lives" seems longer here than the one on the Best of F/R, though >I could be wrong... "Drug Cabinet Key" of course is just Hawklord's "Flying >Dr.", minus the didj, but a good version. "Wired Up for Sound" I'm assuming >is from Brock's Earthed to the Ground album? Very nice. Who does "Work", is >this ICU? And "Man w/the Golden Arm"? I know, I can check the Codex, but then >I wouldn't have posted this note! Thought it'd be good to keep the HW content >going... > >Chuck From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Fri Sep 14 03:01:53 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 03:01:53 -0400 Subject: off:thank-you Message-ID: The support is important; we give as we receive. It is only now beginning to sink in what has really happened. The shock and disbelief took up most of Tuesday and Wednesday. My wife's best friend had been working over in New York and it was a couple of days before anybody heard from her. She was lucky; two hours later and she would have been right there at the World Trade Centre. Only yesterday it struck me about the time I have spent in America and especially New York and most especially Manhattan. I just wonder about all those people that I met and who befriended me and helped during my time over there. It was a few years ago but the memories never fade. My sympathy and best wishes go to everybody touched by this, especially those most directly involved. I just wish that I was somewhere where I could do more than this. Mark On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:56:27 -0400, Tim wrote: >to all our english friends: >just saw footage of the changing of the guard when they played >`the star-spangled banner' first time i've been able to cry over this whole mess. >thank you so much for your moral support,and i'm sure from everyone else >on this side of the pond also. >tim From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Fri Sep 14 03:57:59 2001 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:57:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Not quite The Belief Module ? Message-ID: OK There I am in the local HMV and sitting on the rack rather curiously was Farflung's _The Belief Module_. I quite liked 25000ft/s so I snapped up the CD and off home I go. When I get around to putting it in the player, suspicion is aroused by the fact that it only lists 4 tracks clocking in at 26 minutes total. And indeed, the disc isn't, as far as I can tell, Farflung. What I have is kind of stoner space rock, not bad really, just not quite what I bought. So before I take the disc back, can anybody figure out the band/release I actually have ? Tracks 1 & 2 have intro samples to do with serial killers (#2 is about Ed Gein) and track 4 seems to be a cover of In Gadda da Vida. ideas ? Tim NP: _boyhitscar_ <-> From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Sep 14 04:13:09 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 04:13:09 EDT Subject: OFF: Not quite The Belief Module ? Message-ID: In a message dated 9/14/01 12:59:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK writes: > When I get around to putting it in the player, suspicion is aroused by the > fact that it only lists 4 tracks clocking in at 26 minutes total. And indeed, > > the disc isn't, as far as I can tell, Farflung. What I have is kind of > stoner > space rock, not bad really, just not quite what I bought. > Bad break! That album is hard enough to find as it is. I was lucky to find a copy at Virgin Megastore for a mere $4. anyway, sounds like another band probably on the Bad Acid label... maybe you can e-bay it as a collector's item/mispress?? :) like all the other FF discs... Chuck PS: Speaking of FF, Keith asked about the new Falcata-Galia release...to which I can add with much authority...drum-roll...uh, I dunno. :) It's done, it's a matter of when... From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Fri Sep 14 06:14:02 2001 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:14:02 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >Boy, though -- if you're worried about politics on this list, it >ain't *nuthin'* compared to what I'm seeing on the Gov't Mule list, >which I also just rejoined. Some of the people there have mindsets >that are indistinguishable from terrorists themselves. Christ ... And Baen's Bar, where one of the Baen authors has just gone from "local curmudgeon" to "flameout." As many active fen as hang out there, word will get around quickly; I wonder how many others will join the saner Barflies in taking him off their "must buy" list. *shaking head* Then there's SFF.net; I spent much of Tuesday relaying TV reports to the newsgroups server there for people who were trapped at work. A friend of mine joined the group there to keep up with my "reports" posts; she told me later, "These people scare me." (What did she expect from the man who invented the Draka?) At least they've mostly calmed down by now. -- Jean Lansford oystrgal at bellsouth.net "I fear all I have done is awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve." --Admiral Yamamoto From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 14 06:34:07 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:34:07 +0100 Subject: New Yorkers? In-Reply-To: Bill Stewart's message of Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:06:43 EDT Message-ID: Bill Stewart writes: > In a message dated 9/12/2001 8:29:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > > << Has anyone heard from Bill, Ben , Ron et al? >> > > Been on vacation, all is well here! Ron is in Virginia. Thanks for your > concern. > Best regards, > Bill Stewart Good to hear from you Bill. Hope your kith and kin all made it through... Mike From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Sep 14 09:36:12 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:36:12 EDT Subject: Opa Loka Message-ID: Heres a strange one from the news services......Two of the suspected terrorists received flight training in Opa Loka, Florida! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 14 12:39:05 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:39:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: 15 minute Urban Renewal Plan In-Reply-To: Jean Lansford's message of Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:14:02 -0400 Message-ID: > >Boy, though -- if you're worried about politics on this list, it > >ain't *nuthin'* compared to what I'm seeing on the Gov't Mule list, > >which I also just rejoined. Some of the people there have mindsets > >that are indistinguishable from terrorists themselves. Christ ... It's been the same all over. The only exception I've seen is all.peeves, where the "Nuke 'em 'til they glow, and the countries they came from" fools are getting Terrorism 101 from a few folks in countries that have seen the act before, if not quite the scale. Luckily Bush clearly isn't Clinton or some nappie (ObUS: diaper) factory in Fernando Poo would probably be rubble by now. Mike "Bring Me The Head of Osama Bin Laden" Holmes P.S: Just saw what Jerry Falwell said. Why import fundie lunatics when you grow your own so well? From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Sep 14 12:54:03 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:54:03 +0100 Subject: Opa Loka Message-ID: that's actually rather funny... in a sick and twisted kind of way. Small world, hey? Layla (PS. Is anyone else panicking about world war three? or is it just me the young and impressionable?) >>> Stewartbas at AOL.COM 09/14/01 02:36pm >>> Heres a strange one from the news services......Two of the suspected terrorists received flight training in Opa Loka, Florida! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 14 12:58:14 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:58:14 +0100 Subject: Opa Loka In-Reply-To: Bill Stewart's message of Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:36:12 EDT Message-ID: Bill Stewart writes: > Heres a strange one from the news services......Two of the suspected > terrorists received flight training in Opa Loka, Florida! Thinking about it, Hawkwind tracks describe very well the timeline of news footage this week: Title: Bring Me the head of Osama Bin Laden Tracks: We Took The Wrong Step Years Ago Dreaming City The Island High Rise In the Office Damned by the Curse of man Bring It on Home Wings Angels of Death Wage War Urban Guerilla Bombed Out Aerospaceage Inferno You'd Better Believe It Assassination Burn me Up Free Fall Photo Encounter Death Trap Time We Left Back on the Streets Disintegration The Day A Wall Came Down Fall of Earth City Dust of Time Black Sun Clouded Vision Void City Motherless Children My Baby's Gone Came Home Don't Understand The Reason Is? Sadness Runs Deep The War I Survived Sleep of 1000 Tears Encore: Where Are They Now? It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous Paranoia Living on a Knife Edge Who's Gonna Win the War? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Sep 14 14:08:58 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:08:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Not quite The Belief Module ? Message-ID: with one voice we all chorus, 'you've got the mispressed one' which is actually the music from the mini-album/Ep (call it what you will) by Church Of Misery on the same label. Sadly the label doesn't exist anymore so it's either keep it or a refund, I think. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "bart" To: Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:57 AM Subject: OFF: Not quite The Belief Module ? > OK > > There I am in the local HMV and sitting on the rack rather curiously was > Farflung's _The Belief Module_. I quite liked 25000ft/s so I snapped up the CD > and off home I go. > > When I get around to putting it in the player, suspicion is aroused by the > fact that it only lists 4 tracks clocking in at 26 minutes total. And indeed, > the disc isn't, as far as I can tell, Farflung. What I have is kind of stoner > space rock, not bad really, just not quite what I bought. > > So before I take the disc back, can anybody figure out the band/release I > actually have ? Tracks 1 & 2 have intro samples to do with serial killers (#2 > is about Ed Gein) and track 4 seems to be a cover of In Gadda da Vida. > > ideas ? > > Tim > > > NP: _boyhitscar_ <-> From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Sep 14 14:20:15 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:20:15 +0100 Subject: Opa Loka Message-ID: the one track I've been playing this week that seems to mirror the mood has been 'Monuments of Deceit' by Delerium from one of the early albums when they were ace!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 5:58 PM Subject: Re: Opa Loka > Bill Stewart writes: > > > Heres a strange one from the news services......Two of the suspected > > terrorists received flight training in Opa Loka, Florida! > > Thinking about it, Hawkwind tracks describe very well the timeline of > news footage this week: > > > > Title: Bring Me the head of Osama Bin Laden > > Tracks: > > We Took The Wrong Step Years Ago > Dreaming City > The Island > High Rise > In the Office > Damned by the Curse of man > Bring It on Home > Wings > Angels of Death > Wage War > Urban Guerilla > Bombed Out > Aerospaceage Inferno > You'd Better Believe It > Assassination > Burn me Up > Free Fall > Photo Encounter > Death Trap > Time We Left > Back on the Streets > Disintegration > The Day A Wall Came Down > Fall of Earth City > Dust of Time > Black Sun > Clouded Vision > Void City > Motherless Children > My Baby's Gone > Came Home > Don't Understand > The Reason Is? > Sadness Runs Deep > The War I Survived > Sleep of 1000 Tears > > Encore: Where Are They Now? > It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > Paranoia > Living on a Knife Edge > Who's Gonna Win the War? From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Sep 14 14:00:09 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:00:09 -0400 Subject: Opa Loka Message-ID: doesn't scare me half as mush as cuban missle crisis did in the 60s... tim Layla Thompson wrote: > > that's actually rather funny... > > in a sick and twisted kind of way. > > > Small world, hey? > > Layla > > (PS. Is anyone else panicking about world war three? or is it just me the young > and impressionable?) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Sep 14 13:55:43 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:55:43 -0400 Subject: HW: Cassettes! Message-ID: Chuck wondered... >Also picked up Flicknife cassette of Friends/Relations 2 and 3 on a single >cassette. This is neat, I'm hearing some stuff for the first time. >"Psychedelia Lives" seems longer here than the one on the Best of F/R, though >I could be wrong... "Drug Cabinet Key" of course is just Hawklord's "Flying >Dr.", minus the didj, but a good version. "Wired Up for Sound" I'm assuming >is from Brock's Earthed to the Ground album? Very nice. Who does "Work", is >this ICU? Nope, as was already mentioned, this is Martin Griffin's contribution. The music to this song is exactly the same as a Richard Strange (ex-Doctors of Madness) solo track, from either/both of his albums from that time (c. 1980-1), entitled 'The Phenomenal Rise of...' and 'The Live Rise of...' (the latter of which is only partly live (from New York) and largely overdubbed thereafter I believe, esp. given that three bassists are credited and hard to imagine that sort of thing on stage outside of Spinal Tap). However, the "Strange" version (of "Work") had completely different lyrics and indeed a completely different title (my brain is telling me it was 'Gutter Press' which I know is one of his songs, but I can't be sure if it is the correct one). Although I do believe (from memory) it is Strange also on Guitar/Vocals of (ostensibly) Griffin's "Work," which means that it's not really obvious who actually wrote those alternate lyrics. The only thing I'm pretty sure of is that Dave Winthrop plays a sax solo on both versions. And for those '6 degrees of separation' fans who like to connect various musicians to others (often via Bill Bruford), this link is invaluable given that Paul Martinez was in the Strange/Griffin lineup, and he also played bass with Robert Plant's band, also with Phil Collins (for Plant's Pictures at Eleven), as well as Paice, Ashton (RIP), and Lord, which of course links to the entire Deep Purple family (Bernie Marsden was in PAL too, so that is even more direct to bands like Whitesnake and Babe Ruth). Grakkl (FAA) P.S. "The Man with the Golden Arm" is more of that awful Nik-squawking of the period, innit? From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Sep 14 14:34:53 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:34:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: Acid Mothers Temple Message-ID: Hi Folks... Well, last night I went as a complete Acid Mothers Temple virgin to their show in downtown Columbus at an artsy performance space club called the MadLab. I came home wondering how the hell I could have gone so many years without ever really knowing anything about them (only a hint of understanding that they were 'some Japanese band'). They were completely amazing, and we were all transfixed. Never before had I been to a 'concert' with just 60-70 attendees in a place with no alcohol license that erupted so at the finale and ended up with boisterous rhythmic clapping that forced an encore. They are truly an amazing band. Five piece with bassist/lead vocalist (seemed to be the 'frontman' if there was one), older guy on rhythm/occasional lead guitar/part-time synth (perhap one of the founders?), lead guitarist/part-time vocalist, younger female synth player (I was wondering if perhaps the older guy's daughter?), and drummer. They played I think about five-to-six tracks total, which lasted a full 90 minutes. There is some similarity in what they do to the Space Ritual type of performance, with the quiet poetry bits replaced with crazy semi-traditional a capella Japanese singing (the bassist has an amazing array of different vocals sounds he can produce, including one where he seems to have swallowed a didgeridoo). The synths are knob-twiddly things (digital-type, Roland, surrogates) that came across like Theremins most of the time. The bassist's playing was outstanding, very complex, yet often still loopy/rhythmic a la true blanga. The drummer was similarly busy and impressive but normally within the nature of the overall sound. The lead guitarist was simply insane - he played like Hendrix but only way more over-the-top, completely manic and totally psychedelic. The entire band would just go totally nuts at the climax of most every track, esp. at the end with the guitarist doing everything but destroying the stage with his guitar. My ears are still bleeding a bit, but it was a true joy to watch. My only issue was if they sustained the nearly rhythmless free-for-alls too long, which did happen once or twice, but that was easily forgiven considering the virtue of the bulk of the performance. Those of you in the UK have no excuse for missing joint shows with this band and Finland's Circle next month. Of course, I worry about Circle being completely forgotten about once AMT goes on stage, as on CD, I imagine that they'll continue to be my favorite artist of the last five years. 'Cause by comparison they are like statues on stage, even as their music amazes you. Will be an interesting juxtaposition of kinetic energy level displayed. I picked up the newest CD's by both AMT and their spinoff Nishinion...I haven't listened to them yet, so I can't tell you how the bands differ, nor how the AMT style comes across on plastic compared to live. Go see Acid Mothers Temple!!! Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Last night's show included other performances by some guy doing solo rhythmic/sampled/electronic/computer-enhanced/turntable tricks (marginal), a Cincinnati quartet named Clumsy that did fairly interesting drone/post-rock stuff with some sax, accordion, lots of e-bow guitar drone and other effects, and then the world's worst band ever (that oddly seemed to cop Hawkwind licks, the first track seemed to be based on the Psi Power riff) that played 10-minute ersatz psychedelic jams that featured no talent whatsoever (including a rhythm guitarist and drummer who repeated a single short riff/rhythm over and over with absolutely no modification whatsoever, and a "lead" guitarist/singer who couldn't sing (read: scream) and only played with one finger of his left hand as if he were holding a slide). God they were awful. I've intentionally forgotten their name, and only remember they said they were from Chicago. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Sep 14 16:17:59 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:17:59 -0400 Subject: OFF: Acid Mothers Temple In-Reply-To: <200109141950.PAA29426@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, K Henderson wrote: => Japanese singing (the bassist has an amazing array of different vocals => sounds he can produce, including one where he seems to have swallowed a => didgeridoo). Might that be Tuvan throat singing (a la Huun-Huur-Tu)? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Sep 14 18:19:43 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:19:43 EDT Subject: OFF: Acid Mothers Temple Message-ID: In a message dated 9/14/2001 4:18:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, K Henderson wrote: > > => Japanese singing (the bassist has an amazing array of different vocals > => sounds he can produce, including one where he seems to have swallowed a > => didgeridoo). just a few weeks ago, I was turned on to a cd buy these guys. pretty cool. I wonder if they'll play philly? > > Might that be Tuvan throat singing (a la Huun-Huur-Tu)? Had a chance to see these guys live (Huun-Huur-Tu) not a show to be missed! bob > > Cheers, > > Paul. > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Sep 14 19:07:12 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 00:07:12 +0100 Subject: Opa Loka In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 17:54 +0100 14.09.2001, Layla Thompson wrote: >(PS. Is anyone else panicking about world war three? or is it just me the >young and impressionable?) No, but that might come from years of studying history. Doing that kinda burns out your shockabilty on the bad stuff that people can do to each other (or anything/anyone else). As bad as this was, as fierce as the fallout will be, give humanity time and we'll top it, I've absolutely no doubt. That might sound depressing to some, but it's only intended as an observation based on what we've done to each other before. In meantime, there's _every_ reason to try to _prevent_ this one from being topped. Therein lies what hope we have. All that Pandora had left was Hope, anyway. Cheers, Carl From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Sep 14 19:22:25 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 00:22:25 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 6:14 -0400 14.09.2001, Jean Lansford wrote: >On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >>Boy, though -- if you're worried about politics on this list, it >>ain't *nuthin'* compared to what I'm seeing on the Gov't Mule list, >>which I also just rejoined. Some of the people there have mindsets >>that are indistinguishable from terrorists themselves. Christ ... > >And Baen's Bar, where one of the Baen authors has just gone from >"local curmudgeon" to "flameout." As many active fen as hang out >there, word will get around quickly; I wonder how many others >will join the saner Barflies in taking him off their "must buy" >list. *shaking head* Don't tell me! I like the works of a bunch of Baen authors and don't want to know which one/ones is/are the loonies (insofar as it can't be guessed ....) >Then there's SFF.net; I spent much of Tuesday relaying TV reports >to the newsgroups server there for people who were trapped at >work. A friend of mine joined the group there to keep up with my >"reports" posts; she told me later, "These people scare me." >(What did she expect from the man who invented the Draka?) At >least they've mostly calmed down by now. Stirling? It's not hard to imagine. Heck, I like quite a lot of "miltary SF" but many of the fans (and authors) are a little monolithic in their thought processes (and political allegiance). It has sometimes amazed me how people can rant about the defense of "freedom" while simultaneously damning the same in one breath. Then I got pathetically used to it. >"I fear all I have done is awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with >a terrible resolve." --Admiral Yamamoto It would be nice to see the States come together with the other countries who have vested interests in this stuff and work towards a common goal. The potential is there ..... Ah, this is all embarassingly off topic! Cheers, Carl ObCD: John Williams & the LSO, _Star Wars: A New Hope_, "Destruction of Alderaan" & "The Battle of Yavin". From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Sep 15 02:30:31 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 01:30:31 -0500 Subject: OFF: Bainbridge woman tapes 'UFO' | wkyc.com Message-ID: Bainbridge, OH? Cool. ;) http://www.wkyc.com/news/morelocal/bainbridge/010904ufosighting.ssf From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Sep 15 04:09:38 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:09:38 +0800 Subject: Live Legends DVD/Anubian Lights Message-ID: Hi I've heard that there is also an Ian Gillan Live DVD as well as Uriah Heep, so I suspect it will be much the same titles that were released on video by the same company. They also had a Gong video as well, so maybe that will also be released? William > Hi, > The 'Live Legends' DVD will be out in Oct/Nov, preceded by a free > multi-artist promo DVD exclusively from CD Services to anyone ordering > anything from the time the promos arrive to the time we get rid of them all, > although which of the label's artists will be on the free DVD I have yet to > be told. > Meanwhile here's some Anubian Lights info for our Euro-mainland > cousins.......sadly the UK remains untouched yet again. > > > > Crippled Dick Hot Wax! Newsletter, 11.09.01 > > Crippled Dick Hot Wax! present an extraordinary party tour > with psychedelic visuals and belly dance: > > ** DJ MIMOK ** > (Crippled Dick Hot Wax / Berlin) > > *** SEKSU ROBA *** > (live / L.A.) > > ****** ANUBIAN LIGHTS ****** > (live / L.A.) > > The ANUBIAN LIGHTS are Tommy Grenas and Len Del Rio from Los > Angeles. Both have played in several space- and krautrock bands > like Hawkwind, Chrome, Damo Suzuku (Can)... > meanwhile they are well-known for their fantastic and groovy electronic > lounge sound. Their influences reach from Martin Denny exotica over > krautrock to Middle-East orientalica. > Their live performance with charming belly dancing girl Spencer is a > very special experience, a tempting and hypnotic show. > > With their album Naz Bar they are in the US CMJ charts since 8 weeks. > LA Weekly: '' ... exotic trip into your outer crabgrass with groovie pop > toe-tappers and sample-laden tuneage that'll deliver you unto faraway > lands and galaxies, or teenbeat terrains, Neu horizons and > dynamic desert shores with their non-sulky milky ways. > So fasten your seatbelts please...'' > > SEKSU ROBA is an uniquely entertaining psychedelic Japanese-Korean > electronic group from LA. using mini-moog, theremin, samples and > sexy grooves. Seksu Roba creates futuristic music for mind expansion, > making love, and exploring outer space. In typical live shows, producer > Sukho Lee plays a mean Theremin, a 7 foot tall robot named ''Erector'' > (designed by Victor White) gyrates, and artist/vocalist/performer > Lun*na Menoh hypnotizes audiences. > > DJ MIMOK from the Crippled Dick Hot Wax Headquarter in Berlin, > known for his remixes (Popshopping / Ubiquity), will be spinning > some nice & sleazy Crippled Dick Style tunes. > > VJ FRED from L.A. is in charge for all the visual pleasure. > > 04.10. GER Hamburg, Kunstraum > 05.10. GER Dresden, Parkhotel > 06.10. GER Berlin, Roter Salon > 10.10. FR Paris, Batofar > 11.10. GER Rottweil, Bahnhof > 12.10. CH Bern, Reitschule > 13.10. CH Aarau, Kiff > 14.10. GER Cologne, MTC > 16.10. GER Munich, Atomic Cafe > 17.10. A Wien, B72 > 18.10. IT Trieste, Teatro Miela > 19.10. IT Taranto, Bologna > 20.10. IT Catania, Mercati Generali > 21.10. IT Bari, Rom > Andy Garibaldi (CD Services) > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Sep 15 04:30:05 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:30:05 +0800 Subject: off(But not by much) Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 7:24 AM Subject: off(But not by much) > two questions: > 1)where is MQB going to be playing in st.pete,fl(only 50 miles from here-damn near next door in florida distances)? > 2)does anyone remember who did the song `devil's answer" about 1970 or '71. > was it family or atomic rooster?? > Atomic Rooster for question 2 From coral at APORT.RU Sat Sep 15 06:51:28 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:51:28 +0400 Subject: Live Legends DVD/Anubian Lights Message-ID: On what label are they released? Alice From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Sep 15 10:53:23 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:53:23 +0100 Subject: The shit starts here Message-ID: Daniel Jackson wrote: > whoever did this, anti Muslim feelings have escalated in the last 24 hours, > and will continue to escalate if the mentality below escalates. > SCARY TIMES ARE NEVER DULL, but at what cost to humanity ? > > THIRD WORLD WAR ANYONE??? > > >From uk.islam.religeon; > Tired of your old toilet paper? Try new "Koran" toilet paper! Wipe your > ass with surahs from the Koran, and flush them away! It's all shit anyway. > See how it makes Muslims behave? > > To the Cowards at Ground-Zero > > September 11, 2001 > > They come into this land of ours > And hijack planes into our towers > Innocent lives don't mean a thing > To the bastards the Taliban are harboring > They want to play their game over here? > Let's give them a radioactive Bronx cheer! > > We got the nukes > We got the power > Let's send an ICBM shower > > Time to kick bin Ladin's ass > Turn the Taliban into glass > Drop the big one on Saddam > And see if that brings some salaam > While we're at it, make a copy > And send it off to good ol' Khaddafi > > We got the nukes > We got the power > Let's send an ICBM shower > > They don't care about civilians > They laugh while buildings fall on children > They clap and cheer while little ones > Fall before their roaring guns > It's time to clean up the environment > Nuking them's the first requirement > > We got the nukes > We got the power > Let's send an ICBM shower > > We really tried to give peace a chance > While around the truth Yassar Arafat danced > He made a big fool out of Clinton > Well this time we won't just be hintin' > We've put up with this shit too long > Gonna teach these assholes a different song > > We got the nukes > We got the power > Let's send an ICBM shower > > What did you think that we would do? > Just run off someplace and hide from you? > We got some friends we'd like you to meet > Like Mr. Stealth Bomber and Cruise Missile Pete > And right behind them are a million troops > Lookin' for your cowardly asses to whoop > > We got the nukes > We got the power > Let's send an ICBM shower > > The last time something started out this way > We ended it with a package from the Enola Gay > We proved back then that we would use it > We just didn't think you were dumb enough to choose it > But -- hell! -- we've got so many laying 'round > When we send a few to you won't you tell us how they sound? > > We got the nukes > We got the power > Let's send an ICBM shower I am all for peace and hold no grudges or animosity against any religious/cultural/spiritual/ethnic group. It is individuals with hate and stupidity in their minds who cause atrocities like this one. My answer, even if only to make me feel better, was to rush out and make a simple voodoo doll of Mr Bin whatsisiface, in the hopes that it will "pin him down" and prevent him from doing anything so stupid or life-effacing/defacing again. f. rat From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Sep 15 11:01:31 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:01:31 +0100 Subject: The shit starts here Message-ID: fatrat wrote: > > I am all for peace and hold no grudges or animosity against any > religious/cultural/spiritual/ethnic group. It is individuals with hate and > stupidity in their minds who cause atrocities like this one. > > My answer, even if only to make me feel better, was to rush out and make a > simple voodoo doll of Mr Bin whatsisiface, in the hopes that it will "pin him > down" and prevent him from doing anything so stupid or life-effacing/defacing > again. > > f. rat p.s. anyone who blames Muslims in general for these terrible acts is plain and simple a racist, just as blaming Germans or even Europeans for WWII or black people simply for being black and coming from another culture. People will find any excuse to take out their own anger and frustrations on those who have no interest in "hitting back" e.g. ordinary muslims - tell the same cowards to confront the terrorists themselves and they would run a mile. I am an ex-member of the Society of Friends (Quakers) - very much a peace and life-affirming group, and I am only an ex0-member as I could not keep up my attendances and felt that I wanted to explore other beliefs too. Keep up the love people - and don't forget it is love that will win through - not hate. f. rat From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Sat Sep 15 12:06:52 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:06:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Bands at the Royal Festival Hall Message-ID: I came across this link for the Psychedelia stuff going on at the RFH starting on Oct 3rd. http://www.rfh.org.uk/mindyourhead/ I'm gonna try and get to see all of these. Apart from HW I'm especially interested in seeing Faust and Acid Mothers Temple although AMT are playing as Nishion in London the following Sunday. Faust is a must for me though, I've never seen them live and I've heard they are awesome. I know at least one or two people on the list like The Residents. I was persuaded to go and see them last night at the RFH by some friends having never even heard them before. I must admit I was totally blown away by their show. They performed their latest DVD Icky Flix live while the films from the DVD played behind them on a screen. http://www.residents.com/video/ickyflix.html The images and animations on that screen were incredible, so surreal, it was like they had translated their weirdest dreams onto film or something. I was really impressed by it. I recommend you go and see them if you ever get the chance, they are amazingly good at being strange. Alastair. From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Sep 15 14:39:53 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:39:53 -0500 Subject: OFF: Good vibes - Mr. Quimby's Beard lyrics Message-ID: http://www.btinternet.com/%7Efreakyfungi/DefinitiveUnsolved.htm Nebulae ( Ray ) Soaring high with wings unfurled The time of quiet lies on the land Reaching out for the becoming sky Let it take you so high The passing stars recall the way The paths which leads to a new born day And erase all fears from your mind And live in peace until the end of time See my space it's there for me See your space it's yours to see See my space it's where I'll be See your space your future's free My orbits set, I can't change the line Endlessly travelling on limited time The chosen course it isn't mine Chaotic theories of future kinds Where there's no more chaos And there's no more law No more peace And there's no more war Where nothing's lost and naught is gained The moon shimmered and the stars waned This astral path will be my bane I've never been here before, but nothing's changed I will myself to be refreshed and free from paranoia...... From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Sun Sep 16 00:31:18 2001 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:31:18 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >At 6:14 -0400 14.09.2001, Jean Lansford wrote: >>And Baen's Bar, where one of the Baen authors has just gone from >>"local curmudgeon" to "flameout." As many active fen as hang out >>there, word will get around quickly; I wonder how many others >>will join the saner Barflies in taking him off their "must buy" >>list. *shaking head* > >Don't tell me! I like the works of a bunch of Baen authors and don't >want to know which one/ones is/are the loonies (insofar as it can't >be guessed ....) He's fairly new, IIRC currently working on his third novel. >>Then there's SFF.net; I spent much of Tuesday relaying TV reports >>to the newsgroups server there for people who were trapped at >>work. A friend of mine joined the group there to keep up with my >>"reports" posts; she told me later, "These people scare me." >>(What did she expect from the man who invented the Draka?) At >>least they've mostly calmed down by now. > >Stirling? It's not hard to imagine. Heck, I like quite a lot of >"miltary SF" but many of the fans (and authors) are a little >monolithic in their thought processes (and political allegiance). It >has sometimes amazed me how people can rant about the defense of >"freedom" while simultaneously damning the same in one breath. And some of them are delightful people. Most of the War World crowd, David Drake, Eric Flint, Lois Bujold. I've never encountered David Weber, online or off, but people I respect think highly of him, so add him to the list as well. >Then I got pathetically used to it. That's dangerous, though. Get used to it, and you stop eventually noticing their activities. >It would be nice to see the States come together with the other >countries who have vested interests in this stuff and work towards a >common goal. The potential is there ..... Cross your fingers. >Ah, this is all embarassingly off topic! Other than my introducing a friend to BOC this week via Divine Wind, and my great disappointment that the Oysters were trapped in NY and had to indefinitely postpone the show they were supposed to do here last night, too true. And I was so hoping for a live Divine Wind, too. *sighs* -- Jean Lansford oystrgal at bellsouth.net We must put excited feeling away. Our motive will not be revenge or the victorious assertion of the physical might of the nation, but only the vindication of right, of human right, of which we are only a single champion. - Woodrow Wilson, War Messages, 2 April 1917 From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sun Sep 16 11:10:00 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:10:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: Hello Folks! Another mission! Receiver Records released some Hawkwind albums in the 80s and 90s. Can you find out what they were? What tracks and What year? Also what was on the covers and which photographs were used (as sometimes the wrong lineup was pictured). Early response to this would be appreciated :-) Thanks Dave From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Sep 16 11:43:02 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:43:02 +0200 Subject: HW: Hawk help In-Reply-To: <000201c13ec2$77aa1fa0$7fd493c3@default> Message-ID: Hi Dave At 16:10 16.09.2001 +0100, you wrote: >Another mission! >Receiver Records released some Hawkwind albums in the 80s and 90s. > >Can you find out what they were? What tracks and What year? > >Also what was on the covers and which photographs were used (as sometimes the >wrong lineup was pictured). Here is an important link: https://secure.room2.co.uk/trojan-records/receiver/ - klick on INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS & GROUPS - then klick on the letter "H" Just click on the album names (on the RECEiVER site) and you will get what you are looking for Bernhard From wilfried at MUENSTER.DE Sun Sep 16 12:29:27 2001 From: wilfried at MUENSTER.DE (Wilfried Sch=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=FCsler?=) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:29:27 -0400 Subject: Receiver Records Message-ID: Here is an important link: https://secure.room2.co.uk/trojan-records/receiver/ One item is not listed there: HW - THE EARLY YEARS LIVE (Receiver Replay 3014) Blue Vinyl. Wilfried From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 16 14:29:47 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:29:47 +0100 Subject: HW: King and Powell: Mathews? In-Reply-To: <002401c0e6f2$156ccd60$3e44893e@default> Message-ID: On Sun, 27 May 2001, david hall wrote: > Al Mathews - an American soul singer who used to support HW. I have a very > tasty poster HW/Pink Fairies/ Al Mathews etc from 1974? Al is now an actor, > I think he played an American General in film with Arnie or Bruce > Willis -something like that. All very interesting. I can turn up appearances in _The Fifth Element_, _Tomorrow Never Dies_, _Soul Survivor_, and _American Roulette_ (which is Hawkwind linked to Bruce Willis and indeed James Bond) on the web and numerous copies of one single by him (`Fool') up for sale, but nothing like a discography or anything. What numbers did he do with HW, anyway, his own or theirs? And which ones of theirs if so? I see one of the dates Bernhard gives (Reading Festival 1975) lists both him and Calvert. Nik was playing too. _How_ many frontmen? Yours, Jon ObCD: Farflung - _The Belief Module_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 16 14:40:02 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:40:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Back Catalogue In-Reply-To: <200106021851.OAA29629@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Rx wrote: > Those of you who are in need of boosting your > HW collection: chekkout the following prices and titles: > > www.towerrecords.co.uk > > Alien 4 ?9.88 > Levitation ?7.39 > Live 79 ?7.39 > Palace Springs ?7.39 > SonicBoomKillers ?7.39 (Remixes of singles & b sides etc) > Space Bandits ?7.39 > Lord of Light ?8.45 (remixes and stuff inc.single mix of paradox etc) > Golden Void ?10.56 (2cd compilation & interview) > Out & Intake ?10.56 > Best of Friends & Relations ?3.16 (!!!!!) But that'll be the Emporio re-issue your esteemed paymasters sued over, surely Rik... certainly top value but not as far as I recall a band- permitted or paying release (though I have it, from back before I knew this). > ------------------------------------------------- > > www.cow.co.uk Have to pause and recommend these people though, they are the business. As well as far as I know being the only place you can buy Brain Surgeons albums for Sterling (though at a mark-up that makes the whole business considerably less desirable) they can track down a lot of other stuff, and they _are_, by and large, cheap for the UK. Also, they don't charge postage, which makes a hell of a difference. Use them. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 16 14:54:12 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:54:12 +0100 Subject: Jon Jarret's ex-hawks list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > kprocter at chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: > > > On Thu, 31 May 2001, M Holmes wrote: > > > > > Does anyone have the URL for Jon's website listing the music that the > > > various ex-hawks have been involved in? > > > > AFAIAA there is no such thing - if there is, I don't believe it > > belongs to or is maintained by Jon. That's not to say he won't send you > > a copy anyway though - I haven't got one on my machine and don't have > > an account on his, so it will have ot be him, I'm afraid. > > Oh, I thought that Jon maintained such a list. Could be that someone > else put it on the web at some point. Dear All, for what it's worth that person was Tony Melius, and the things are linked off . I don't have control over these but at some point I am actually going to supply him with updated source code, honest guv, any minute now. Until then I'm sorry about the errors but if it's of any use to anyone there it is. Yours, Jon ObCD: Fu Manchu - _The Action is Go!_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Sep 16 15:26:21 2001 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:26:21 -0400 Subject: BRAIN:Billy Hilfiger In-Reply-To: <5b88qt8o4l24hs9fldmpm5m5d23ejjlh29@4ax.com> Message-ID: I am sad to report that Billy Hilfiger finally succumbed to his battle with cancer. He died Sept. 14, 2001, late Friday night. tBS are not sure of the status of our gig this Friday the 21st in NYC but if it is still on the show will be dedicated to Billy. He was a great friend, a great fan of BOC and we miss him very much. Al From dave.bunn at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Sep 16 17:02:38 2001 From: dave.bunn at NTLWORLD.COM (Babylon Hythe) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:02:38 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Webring Message-ID: Hello A mate of mine (Off list, as he cant cope with this many mails!) is starting a Hawkwind Webring, because he found out that there wasn ?t one already. So if you have a Hawkwind related website then use this link to sign up please. http://www.ringsurf.com/netring?ring=lopol;action=list Thankyou. Dave From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 16 17:16:58 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:16:58 +0100 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: <200106051133.MAA02809@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, M Holmes wrote: > Doug Pearson writes: > > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:47:38 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI > > wrote: > > >Hey, that's it - get Hawkwind to do a JA cover - ah, but which one? > > > > "Have You Seen The Saucers?", of course! > > Nah, gotta be a blanga version of White Rabbit. Actually, it has to be said, I have a live version of `Other Side of Life' which really does blanga. It's on that weird maybe-boot live disc I posted about a while back and it clocks in at 6:52, most of which is spent just riffing while all kinds of stuff goes on in the treble range. One of those proto-blanga moments. I always reckoned the break in The Doors' `Break On Through' was another but that one is maybe less so. My point being JA would have done HW better than the reverse I think. Though I would like them to do `Have You Seen the Saucers?' :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: _This is Hawkwind Do Not Panic_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sun Sep 16 19:07:33 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:07:33 +0100 Subject: BRAIN:Billy Hilfiger In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 15:26 -0400 16.09.2001, albert bouchard wrote: >I am sad to report that Billy Hilfiger finally succumbed to his >battle with cancer. He died Sept. 14, 2001, late Friday night. tBS >are not sure of the status of our gig this Friday the 21st in NYC but >if it is still on the show will be dedicated to Billy. He was a great >friend, a great fan of BOC and we miss him very much. Oh, gods, that's terrible! He was a great guy. I'll never forget his performances with tBS, and never stop listening to his recordings. Rock on, Billy. Carl From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sun Sep 16 19:21:05 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:21:05 +0100 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 22:16 +0100 16.09.2001, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, M Holmes wrote: >> Nah, gotta be a blanga version of White Rabbit. > > Actually, it has to be said, I have a live version of `Other Side >of Life' which really does blanga. It's on that weird maybe-boot live disc >I posted about a while back and it clocks in at 6:52, most of which is >spent just riffing while all kinds of stuff goes on in the treble >range. One of those proto-blanga moments. I always reckoned the break in >The Doors' `Break On Through' was another but that one is maybe less so. Actually, I was just talking the other day with someone about doing a blanga version of "White Rabbit" .... :) That Airplane disc Jon refers to is titled _Through the Looking Glass_, and the material on it really rips. There's a guitar break in its version of "3/5ths of a Mile in 10 Seconds" that is *blinding*. No idea what the source of the recordings is, or the relative legitimacy of the release .... Cheers, Carl From nick at NETPHD.NET Sun Sep 16 20:29:35 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:29:35 -0400 Subject: BRAIN:Billy Hilfiger In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Quoting albert bouchard : > I am sad to report that Billy Hilfiger finally succumbed to his > battle with cancer. He died Sept. 14, 2001, late Friday night. tBS > are not sure of the status of our gig this Friday the 21st in NYC but > if it is still on the show will be dedicated to Billy. He was a great > friend, a great fan of BOC and we miss him very much. > Al My most sincere condolences on the loss of Billy Hilfiger. We, the many Brain Surgeons fans on this list will no doubt feel that loss as well. In the wake of last Tuesday\'s tragedy, it\'s hard to fathom having to endure even more loss. My stepfather lost his mother on Wednesday, a really good woman, so I can, in part, understand the bittersweet fact that, despite the thousands who lost their lives on Tuesday, life. . . and death. . . go on. Best Wishes, Nick English From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sun Sep 16 23:24:14 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:24:14 -0400 Subject: banding together and looking ahead. Message-ID: Hello all, I can think of no better time than for us to all start organizing some benefit shows as we attempt to regain some sense of normality in our daily lives. Let's band together. Therefore I would like to try and plant the seed for some sort of event in my own area ( greater Philadelphia metropolitan). I offer Sloterdijk to any venue, individuals etc and of course all the other music industry individuals on both sides of the stage. There is some tremendous talent in the area, and I hope that venue will also step up and offer a space where we can all perform. I think these shows should be regional, as now is not the best time to travel long distances. So as a creative community, lets start making something happen. I am willing to bring Sloterdijk to any event which will directly benefit the recovery efforts in New York and or Washington. I am also willing to help any other interested parties in making such an event happen. Peace, MIke Burro (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM Sun Sep 16 23:37:22 2001 From: rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM (RPManny) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:37:22 -0400 Subject: BRAIN:Billy Hilfiger Message-ID: This has been a hard week, we have lost many of the best and the brightest of us. And now, Billy. To Billy's family and friends, we send this tight hug, and our prayers for their comfort. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "albert bouchard" To: Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 3:26 PM Subject: BRAIN:Billy Hilfiger > I am sad to report that Billy Hilfiger finally succumbed to his > battle with cancer. He died Sept. 14, 2001, late Friday night. tBS > are not sure of the status of our gig this Friday the 21st in NYC but > if it is still on the show will be dedicated to Billy. He was a great > friend, a great fan of BOC and we miss him very much. > Al From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sun Sep 16 23:47:00 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:47:00 -0500 Subject: HW: a couple of dumb questions re: november Message-ID: re: the november gigs, a few dumb questions... 1) On looking at ticketmaster.co.uk and wayahead, I see that not all of the gigs are listed as having tickets available. wayahead has: HAWKWIND Rock City Nottingham WED 07/11/2001 19:30 order HAWKWIND Manchester University Manchester SAT 10/11/2001 19:30 order HAWKWIND Royal Court Theatre Liverpool SUN 11/11/2001 19:30 order HAWKWIND Glasgow Garage Glasgow MON 12/11/2001 19:30 order HAWKWIND Liquid Rooms Edinburgh TUE 13/11/2001 19:30 order HAWKWIND Concorde 2 Brighton WED 21/11/2001 20:00 order ticketmaster only lists: Hawkwind PRINCESS THEATRE, TORQUAY 20/11/2001 ROYAL COURT Hawkwind LIVERPOOL, LIVERPOOL 11/11/2001 SANCTUARY Hawkwind BIRMINGHAM, BIRMINGHAM 08/11/2001 Hawkwind WYVERN THEATRE, SWINDON 03/11/2001 The last I checked, they weren't even scheduled for anything in Torquay? What about the Newcastle, Cardiff, Hitchin, Poole, Salisbury, Walthamstow gigs? Is it appropriate to call the venue directly on these? or should I just be patient? (getting tickets for UK stuff in the US is a pain in the rear. phooey.) 2) Also -- does anyone know of any good hotels/motels/b&bs in the vicinity of the gigs? 3) anyone know what it takes to rent a car in the UK? (I don't have a UK license, but a US one. Do I need to get an international permit or somesuch, or will I be ok?) (if anyone else is doing the rent-a-car thing, and is willing to have a passenger, I'd be terribly grateful... if not, and folks need a lift, I'm sure I'll be able to stuff a person or two into a car.) Thanks! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Sep 17 01:53:21 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:53:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: I used to know someone who worked for them for a bit. Their name said it all really, their catalogue was almost entirely acquired through the official receiver when companies went to the wall. Also a lot of their stuff was mastered from (often ropey) vinyl. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "XXX" To: Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:10 PM Subject: HW: Hawk help Hello Folks! Another mission! Receiver Records released some Hawkwind albums in the 80s and 90s. Can you find out what they were? What tracks and What year? Also what was on the covers and which photographs were used (as sometimes the wrong lineup was pictured). Early response to this would be appreciated :-) Thanks Dave From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Mon Sep 17 06:08:59 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:08:59 -0400 Subject: HW: a couple of dumb questions re: november Message-ID: >2) Also -- does anyone know of any good hotels/motels/b&bs in the vicinity >of the gigs? Arin, Here is a link for the Liverpool tourist information website. The accomodation bit will give you an indication of prices etc. http://www.visitliverpool.com I don't have any experience of the hotels so I can't recommend one but any hotel around the city centre will be within walking distance of the Royal Court. If you speak to someone just tell them what price you want and mention the Royal Court, everyone knows it. Alastair. From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Sep 17 06:41:37 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:41:37 +0100 Subject: HW: a couple of dumb questions re: november In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The last I checked, they weren't even scheduled for anything in Torquay? > Final confirmed tour dates - note the Dublin date as well (tickets from www.ticketmaster.ie) Torquay might have replaced the cancelled Hastings show. The smaller venues, town hall sorts of places, won't be hooked up to the ticketmaster system, so if they're not listed it doesn't mean they're sold out. Phoning the venue is about your only option, but I'm sure they'll all take Visa, and they'll keep tickets back for you at the door. You'll be OK for car rental with your US license. Just make sure you let them know if you don't want to drive stick! ---- DAY DATE VENUE BOX OFFICE SUPPORT WEDNESDAY 10th October Royal Festival Hall,London Tel: 020 7921 0600 SATURDAY 3rd November Wyvern Theatre, Swindon Tel: 0179 352 4481 TIM BLAKE TUESDAY 6th November Irish Centre, Leeds Tel: 0113 248 0613 TIM BLAKE WEDNESDAY 7th November Rock City, Nottingham Tel: 0115 941 2544 Gong THURSDAY 8th November The Sanctuary, Birmingham Tel: 0121 246 1010 ZION TRAIN SATURDAY 10th November Manchester University Tel: 0161 832 1111 BEDOUIN SUNDAY 11th November Royal Court Theatre, Liverpool Tel: 0151 709 4321 BEDOUIN MONDAY 12th November The Garage, Glasgow Virgin: 0141 332 4400 TIM BLAKE TUESDAY 13th November Liquid Room, Edinburgh Ripping Records: 0131 226 7010 MR QUIMBLY'S BEARD WEDNESDAY 14th November Opera House, Newcastle Tel: 0191 232 0899 TIM BLAKE FRIDAY 16th November Coal Exchange, Cardiff Tel: 02920 494 917 BLUE HORSES SATURDAY 17th November Hitchin Town Hall Tel: 01462 456 202 BEDOUIN SUNDAY 18th November Poole Arts Centre Te: 01202 685 222 BEDOUIN MONDAY 19th November City Hall, Salisbury Tel: 01722 327676 The Hi-Fi Companions TUESDAY 20th November Princess Theatre, Torquay Tel: 08702 414120 BRUISE WEDNESDAY 21st November Concorde 2, Brighton Tel: 01273 772770 /325440 BEDOUIN SATURDAY 24th November Walthamstow Assembly Hall Tel: 0208 521 7111 BRUISE MONDAY 26th November Ambassador, Dublin T/B/A T/B/A All Venues Doors open: 7.30 Hawkwind on Stage: 9 p.m. Support Act: 7.30 p.m. Advance Ticket prices: ?12.50 Door Ticket Prices: ?15.00 (DUBLIN ADVANCE ?17 IR- DOOR TICKETS ?19 IR) ---- -- Andy www.andygilham.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Sep 17 08:27:11 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:27:11 -0400 Subject: BRAIN:Billy Hilfiger In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Billy was a ripping guitarist and a really funny guy. I'll never forget that even when he was feeling terrible after chemo, he still gave all he had to play for us. My condolences to you Al & Deb, Billy's family, and all his other friends and fans. Brian obBillyGuitar> "Dominance & Submission" The Haunt, Ithaca, NY 12/96 > I am sad to report that Billy Hilfiger finally succumbed to his > battle with cancer. He died Sept. 14, 2001, late Friday night. tBS > are not sure of the status of our gig this Friday the 21st in NYC but > if it is still on the show will be dedicated to Billy. He was a great > friend, a great fan of BOC and we miss him very much. > Al From drb.serendipity at NTLWORLD.COM Mon Sep 17 08:50:42 2001 From: drb.serendipity at NTLWORLD.COM (David Blair) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:50:42 +0100 Subject: HW: a couple of dumb questions re: november In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Andy Gilham writes >> The last I checked, they weren't even scheduled for anything in Torquay? >> > >Final confirmed tour dates - note the Dublin date as well (tickets from >www.ticketmaster.ie) Torquay might have replaced the cancelled Hastings >show. > >The smaller venues, town hall sorts of places, won't be hooked up to the >ticketmaster system, so if they're not listed it doesn't mean they're sold >out. Phoning the venue is about your only option, but I'm sure they'll all >take Visa, and they'll keep tickets back for you at the door. You can order tickets for the Newcastle gig online at www.newcastleoperahouse.com -- David Blair From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Mon Sep 17 09:40:53 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:40:53 EDT Subject: OFF: Marc Powers Message-ID: Anyone hear from Marc Powers( Born to Go)? Best regards, Bill Stewart From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Mon Sep 17 13:37:40 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:37:40 -0500 Subject: OFF: Marc Powers Message-ID: I posted about him a few weeks ago. I was told by private email that he had indeed suffered a stroke. I think it is worth mentioning at this point since somebody else has asked now too. Hopefully he is doing well. > Anyone hear from Marc Powers( Born to Go)? > > Best regards, > Bill Stewart > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Sep 17 13:00:32 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:00:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: Marc Powers Message-ID: >I posted about him a few weeks ago. I was told by private email that he had >indeed suffered a stroke. I think it is worth mentioning at this point >since somebody else has asked now too. Hopefully he is doing well. Jerry K. told me that he had heard from some NY folks and I got the impression that nobody in the spacerock community was *directly* affected by last week's events. I know he mentioned Adam Strider, and Marc (being at home recuperating), and Carl Howard, who now has apparently left his job (which was effectively ended anyway) and has moved here (earlier than originally planned) to the Columbus area of all places. So presumably, the AP and BtG folks are all accounted for. Grakkl (FAA) From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Sep 17 14:55:23 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:55:23 +0100 Subject: HW: a couple of dumb questions re: november Message-ID: Cardiff is happening as i got my tickets for it last saturday. I'm also going to the RFH, walthamstow and brighton so see you all there. cheers Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 Currently listening to: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:47 AM Subject: HW: a couple of dumb questions re: november > re: the november gigs, a few dumb questions... > > 1) On looking at ticketmaster.co.uk and wayahead, I see that not all of > the gigs are listed as having tickets available. > > wayahead has: > > HAWKWIND Rock City Nottingham WED 07/11/2001 19:30 order > HAWKWIND Manchester University Manchester SAT 10/11/2001 19:30 order > HAWKWIND Royal Court Theatre Liverpool SUN 11/11/2001 19:30 order > HAWKWIND Glasgow Garage Glasgow MON 12/11/2001 19:30 order > HAWKWIND Liquid Rooms Edinburgh TUE 13/11/2001 19:30 order > HAWKWIND Concorde 2 Brighton WED 21/11/2001 20:00 order > > ticketmaster only lists: > > Hawkwind PRINCESS THEATRE, > TORQUAY 20/11/2001 > > ROYAL COURT > Hawkwind LIVERPOOL, > LIVERPOOL 11/11/2001 > > SANCTUARY > Hawkwind BIRMINGHAM, > BIRMINGHAM 08/11/2001 > > Hawkwind WYVERN THEATRE, > SWINDON 03/11/2001 > > The last I checked, they weren't even scheduled for anything in Torquay? > > What about the Newcastle, Cardiff, Hitchin, Poole, Salisbury, Walthamstow > gigs? > > Is it appropriate to call the venue directly on these? or should I just be > patient? > > (getting tickets for UK stuff in the US is a pain in the rear. phooey.) > > 2) Also -- does anyone know of any good hotels/motels/b&bs in the vicinity > of the gigs? > > 3) anyone know what it takes to rent a car in the UK? (I don't have a UK > license, but a US one. Do I need to get an international permit or > somesuch, or will I be ok?) > > (if anyone else is doing the rent-a-car thing, and is willing to have a > passenger, I'd be terribly grateful... > > if not, and folks need a lift, I'm sure I'll be able to stuff a person or > two into a car.) > > Thanks! > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Sep 17 18:21:11 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:21:11 EDT Subject: OFF: Marc Powers Message-ID: Yes, In case anyone out there hasn't heard, Marc suffered a stroke back in June. He is now home and recovering. I believe marc still has some paralysis on his left side. He phone me last tuesday night, we talked about the tragedy in NYC and he mentioned that he had worked at the World Trade center and had previously worked in buildings 1, 2 & 7 and if it wasn't for the stroke he would have been there on tuesday. Anyone that knows Marc personally may want to get into contact with him. He and his family are great folk and we here wish them the best. bob In a message dated 9/17/2001 9:42:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Stewartbas at AOL.COM writes: > Anyone hear from Marc Powers( Born to Go)? > > Best regards, > From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Mon Sep 17 21:14:16 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:14:16 -0400 Subject: BRAIN:Billy Hilfiger In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just damn. My thoughts, prayers and sympathy goes out to him, his family and his loved ones. What a tough week... Just damn... Ship > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of albert bouchard > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 3:26 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: BRAIN:Billy Hilfiger > > > I am sad to report that Billy Hilfiger finally succumbed to his > battle with cancer. He died Sept. 14, 2001, late Friday night. tBS > are not sure of the status of our gig this Friday the 21st in NYC but > if it is still on the show will be dedicated to Billy. He was a great > friend, a great fan of BOC and we miss him very much. > Al > From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Sep 17 22:21:28 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 02:21:28 GMT Subject: BRAIN:Billy Hilfiger Message-ID: More than anything else this last week, this has hit me hardest. Billy Hilfiger lived in true rock and roll fashion: he was always the optimist in the darkest hour, he bared himself to the audience and bandmembers alike with every note of his guitar. He even gave me his phone number once and I talked to him for sometime about his (musical) history for a FAQ for tBS that circumstances have long since shelved. To be so generous with oneself is a noble aspiration, and that he managed to do so provided that spark of alchemy that made the 5 piece band push the music onward. I'll miss him --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Sep 17 22:25:27 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 02:25:27 GMT Subject: BRAIN: Don Hills Message-ID: Deborah Frost posted that the gig is goign ahead as scheduled on fir. the 21st and Don Hill's. Directions to the place are linked to on Cellsum.com They hit the stage at 11. Looking forward to kicking out the jams in memory of Helen, Billy and all who are no longer with us. Jason --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Mon Sep 17 23:54:38 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:54:38 EDT Subject: OFF:NYC Message-ID: Bev and I went downtown for dinner tonite...it's horrible..pretty much lost faith in everything....all seem to be waiting for the other terrible foot to drop, and it will! Chemical, biological, nuclear, take your pick, it's on the way, and we can't stop it! Best regards, Bill Stewart From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Tue Sep 18 05:09:21 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:09:21 +0200 Subject: OFF: AP-Born to Go Message-ID: Hej, I spoke to Doug Walker last week. He was driving on the freeway on the way into the city and saw the first plane fly right into the building. He and all the Alien Planetscapes folk are fine. Born to Go is no more as you know. Doug had said that Marc had mentioned moving back to England soon. We all wish Marc the best. The Mars Trilogy by Alien Planetscapes has been cancelled as the master had a fatal error in it. The band are rehearsing and Doug is feeling pretty well at this time. Other space rock new....New Darxtar out any day on Record Heaven. scott ObCD Space Probe Taurus- Demo 2001 (Sweden) From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Tue Sep 18 09:00:38 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:00:38 -0400 Subject: BRAIN:Billy Hilfiger Message-ID: Very sorry to hear of Billy's passing - I hope his final days weren't too painful, and I hope he is in a better place now (no doubt tearing up some heavenly fretboards). I had the priviledge of meeting Billy a few times at tBS gigs in Boston and remember him to be a really cool guy. Back in those days, Billy and Albert really held the band together live, since they were both experienced touring musicians, and had a knack for handling all the little situations that can occur during a live show. I still recall one show where Billy had gotten lost on his way to the gig and arrived very late - that band was a bit upset with him, but, as Albert said, "All was forgiven" when during the set, Billy let loose a ripping solo during "Cities on Flame", stepping up to the front of the stage an hamming it up for the audience. God Bless you Billy, John From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Sep 18 09:33:34 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:33:34 -0500 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) Message-ID: Blue Oyster Cult, "Burnin' For You" banned!!! http://www.pioneerplanet.com/news/ncl_docs/137030.htm Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid BRIAN LAMBERT Media critic Movies and TV aren't alone in reviewing the content of their entertainment in the wake of last week's terrorist attacks. Clear Channel Inc., which owns over 1,200 stations including seven in the Twin Cities, is circulating a list of 150 songs its local programmers might consider avoiding for the time being. Clear Channel managers here say the list is merely a "memo from the main office," not something they must adhere to. Many of the songs on the list are heavy-metal warhorses like "Sweating Bullets" by Megadeth, "Seek and Destroy" by Metallica and a half-dozen cuts from AC/DC including "Safe in New York City," "Highway to Hell," "TNT" and "Shot Down in Flames." Some of the 150 song titles "suggested" by Clear Channel are baffling. John Lennon's "Imagine" and The Youngbloods' "Get Together" would seem to be precisely the sort of message people might like to hear in difficult times. Likewise, who could possibly object to Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World"? Several Beatles songs -- "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds," "Obla Di Obla Da" and "Ticket to Ride" -- are also on the list. "You know what this is?" says KEEY-FM's operations manager Gregg Swedberg. "It's a bunch of people sitting in a room saying, "Think of anything, anything, anywhere that might possibly be a little too much, that people might be sensitive to.' "This is just another idea we get. Something for us to "consider.' Nothing more than that." Swedberg adds that K102, a country-music format, returned Garth Brooks' early '90s tune, "We Shall Be Free," to its rotation in reaction to the crisis. Rob Morris, program director for Clear Channel-owned KDWB-FM, said he expected few if any changes to his station's playlist. ABC-owned KXXR-FM, aka 93X, did not respond to several calls asking what changes they might be making to their playlist. Here are some of the other reported song titles Clear Channel suggested its stations avoid: Black Sabbath, "War Pigs," "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath," "Suicide Solution"; Dio, "Holy Diver"; Steve Miller, "Jet Airliner"; Van Halen, "Jump"; Queen, "Another One Bites the Dust," "Killer Queen"; Pat Benatar, "Hit Me with Your Best Shot," "Love is a Battlefield"; Oingo Boingo, "Dead Man's Party"; REM, "It's the End of the World as We Know It"; Talking Heads, "Burning Down the House"; Judas Priest, "Some Heads Are Gonna Roll"; Pink Floyd, "Run Like Hell"; Pink Floyd, "Mother"; Savage Garden, "Crash and Burn"; Dave Matthews Band, "Crash Into Me"; Bangles, "Walk Like an Egyptian"; Pretenders, "My City Was Gone"; Alanis Morissette, "Ironic"; Barenaked Ladies, "Falling for the First Time"; Fuel, "Bad Day"; John Parr, "St. Elmo's Fire"; Peter Gabriel, "When You're Falling"; Kansas, "Dust in the Wind"; Led Zeppelin, "Stairway to Heaven"; Bob Dylan/Guns N Roses, "Knockin' on Heaven's Door"; Arthur Brown, "Fire"; Blue Oyster Cult, "Burnin' For You"; Paul McCartney and Wings, "Live and Let Die"; Jimi Hendrix, "Hey Joe"; Jackson Brown, "Doctor My Eyes"; John Mellencamp, "Crumbling Down," "I'm On Fire"; U2, "Sunday Bloody Sunday"; Boston, "Smokin"; Billy Joel, "Only the Good Die Young"; Barry McGuire, "Eve of Destruction"; Steam, "Na Na Na Na Hey Hey"; Drifters, "On Broadway"; Shelly Fabares, "Johnny Angel"; Los Bravos, "Black is Black"; Peter and Gordon, "I Go To Pieces," "A World Without Love"; Elvis, "(You're the) Devil in Disguise"; Zombies, "She's Not There"; Elton John, "Benny & The Jets," "Daniel," "Rocket Man"; Jerry Lee Lewis, "Great Balls of Fire"; Santana, "Evil Ways;" Louis Armstrong, "What A Wonderful World"; Ad Libs, "The Boy from New York City"; Peter Paul and Mary, "Blowin' in the Wind," "Leavin' on a Jet Plane"; Rolling Stones, "Ruby Tuesday"; Simon & Garfunkel, "Bridge Over Troubled Water"; Happenings, "See You in September"; Carole King, "I Feel the Earth Move"; Yager and Evans, "In the Year 2525"; Norman Greenbaum, "Spirit in the Sky"; Brooklyn Bridge, "Worst That Could Happen"; Three Degrees, "When Will I See You Again"; Cat Stevens, "Peace Train," "Morning Has Broken"; Jan and Dean, "Dead Man's Curve"; Martha & the Vandellas, "Nowhere to Run"; Martha and the Vandellas/Van Halen, "Dancing in the Streets"; Hollies, "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother"; Sam Cooke/ Herman Hermits, "Wonderful World"; Petula Clark, "A Sign of the Times"; Don McLean, "American Pie"; J. Frank Wilson, "Last Kiss"; Buddy Holly and the Crickets, "That'll Be the Day"; Bobby Darin, "Mack the Knife"; The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"; Surfaris, "Wipeout"; Blood Sweat & Tears, "And When I Die"; Dave Clark Five, "Bits and Pieces"; Tramps, "Disco Inferno"; Paper Lace, "The Night Chicago Died"; Frank Sinatra, "New York, New York"; Creedence Clearwater Revival, "Travelin' Band"; The Gap Band, "You Dropped a Bomb On Me"; Alien Ant Farm, "Smooth Criminal"; 3 Doors Down, "Duck and Run"; The Doors, "The End"; Third Eye Blind, "Jumper"; Neil Diamond, "America"; Lenny Kravitz, "Fly Away"; Tom Petty, "Free Fallin' "; Bruce Springsteen, "I'm On Fire," "Goin' Down"; Phil Collins, "In the Air Tonight"; Alice in Chains, "Rooster," "Sea of Sorrow," "Down in a Hole," "Them Bone"; Beastie Boys, "Sure Shot," "Sabotage"; The Cult, "Fire Woman"; Everclear, "Santa Monica"; Filter, "Hey Man, Nice Shot"; Foo Fighters, "Learn to Fly"; Korn, "Falling Away From Me"; Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Aeroplane," "Under the Bridge"; Smashing Pumpkins, "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"; System of a Down, "Chop Suey"; Skeeter Davis, "End of the World"; Ricky Nelson, "Travelin' Man"; Chi-Lites, "Have You Seen Her"; Animals, "We Gotta Get Out of This Place"; Fontella Bass, "Rescue Me"; Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels, "Devil with the Blue Dress"; James Taylor, "Fire and Rain"; Edwin Starr/Bruce Springstein, "War"; Lynyrd Skynyrd, "Tuesday's Gone"; Limp Bizkit, "Break Stuff"; Green Day, "Brain Stew"; Temple of the Dog, "Say Hello to Heaven"; Sugar Ray, "Fly"; Local H, "Bound for the Floor"; Slipknot, "Left Behind, Wait and Bleed"; Bush, "Speed Kills"; 311, "Down"; Stone Temple Pilots, "Big Bang Baby," "Dead and Bloated"; Soundgarden, "Fell on Black Days," "Black Hole Sun"; Nina, "99 Luft Balloons/99 Red Balloons"; Drowning Pool, "Bodies"; Mudvayne, "Death Blooms"; Megadeth, "Dread and the Fugitive," "Sweating Bullets"; Saliva, "Click Click Boom"; P.O.D. "Boom"; Metallica, "Harvester or Sorrow," "Enter Sandman," "Fade to Black"; all songs by Rage Against The Machine; Nine Inch Nails, "Head Like a Hole"; Godsmack, "Bad Religion"; Tool, "Intolerance." ?2001 St. Paul Pioneer Press. All Rights Reserved. -- "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Gandhi From markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Sep 18 10:07:47 2001 From: markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM (mark cotton) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:07:47 +0000 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) Message-ID: They've missed off 'Jump', by Derek and Clive! >From: Karen Kusic >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:33:34 -0500 > >Blue Oyster Cult, "Burnin' For You" banned!!! > >http://www.pioneerplanet.com/news/ncl_docs/137030.htm > > Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid > > BRIAN LAMBERT Media critic > > Movies and TV aren't alone in reviewing the content of their >entertainment in the wake of last week's terrorist attacks. Clear > Channel Inc., which owns over 1,200 stations including seven in the >Twin Cities, is circulating a list of 150 songs its local > programmers might consider avoiding for the time being. > > Clear Channel managers here say the list is merely a "memo from the >main office," not something they must adhere to. > > Many of the songs on the list are heavy-metal warhorses like "Sweating >Bullets" by Megadeth, "Seek and Destroy" by Metallica > and a half-dozen cuts from AC/DC including "Safe in New York City," >"Highway to Hell," "TNT" and "Shot Down in Flames." > > Some of the 150 song titles "suggested" by Clear Channel are baffling. > > John Lennon's "Imagine" and The Youngbloods' "Get Together" would seem >to be precisely the sort of message people might > like to hear in difficult times. Likewise, who could possibly object to >Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World"? > > Several Beatles songs -- "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds," "Obla Di Obla >Da" and "Ticket to Ride" -- are also on the list. > > "You know what this is?" says KEEY-FM's operations manager Gregg >Swedberg. "It's a bunch of people sitting in a room > saying, "Think of anything, anything, anywhere that might possibly be a >little too much, that people might be sensitive to.' > > "This is just another idea we get. Something for us to "consider.' >Nothing more than that." > > Swedberg adds that K102, a country-music format, returned Garth Brooks' >early '90s tune, "We Shall Be Free," to its rotation in > reaction to the crisis. > > Rob Morris, program director for Clear Channel-owned KDWB-FM, said he >expected few if any changes to his station's playlist. > > ABC-owned KXXR-FM, aka 93X, did not respond to several calls asking >what changes they might be making to their playlist. > > Here are some of the other reported song titles Clear Channel suggested >its stations avoid: > > Black Sabbath, "War Pigs," "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath," "Suicide >Solution"; Dio, "Holy Diver"; Steve Miller, "Jet Airliner"; Van > Halen, "Jump"; Queen, "Another One Bites the Dust," "Killer Queen"; Pat >Benatar, "Hit Me with Your Best Shot," "Love is a > Battlefield"; Oingo Boingo, "Dead Man's Party"; REM, "It's the End of >the World as We Know It"; Talking Heads, "Burning Down > the House"; Judas Priest, "Some Heads Are Gonna Roll"; Pink Floyd, "Run >Like Hell"; Pink Floyd, "Mother"; Savage Garden, > "Crash and Burn"; Dave Matthews Band, "Crash Into Me"; Bangles, "Walk >Like an Egyptian"; Pretenders, "My City Was Gone"; > Alanis Morissette, "Ironic"; Barenaked Ladies, "Falling for the First >Time"; Fuel, "Bad Day"; John Parr, "St. Elmo's Fire"; Peter > Gabriel, "When You're Falling"; Kansas, "Dust in the Wind"; Led >Zeppelin, "Stairway to Heaven"; Bob Dylan/Guns N Roses, > "Knockin' on Heaven's Door"; Arthur Brown, "Fire"; Blue Oyster Cult, >"Burnin' For You"; Paul McCartney and Wings, "Live and > Let Die"; Jimi Hendrix, "Hey Joe"; Jackson Brown, "Doctor My Eyes"; >John Mellencamp, "Crumbling Down," "I'm On Fire"; U2, > "Sunday Bloody Sunday"; Boston, "Smokin"; Billy Joel, "Only the Good >Die Young"; Barry McGuire, "Eve of Destruction"; > Steam, "Na Na Na Na Hey Hey"; Drifters, "On Broadway"; Shelly Fabares, >"Johnny Angel"; Los Bravos, "Black is Black"; Peter > and Gordon, "I Go To Pieces," "A World Without Love"; Elvis, "(You're >the) Devil in Disguise"; Zombies, "She's Not There"; Elton > John, "Benny & The Jets," "Daniel," "Rocket Man"; Jerry Lee Lewis, >"Great Balls of Fire"; Santana, "Evil Ways;" Louis > Armstrong, "What A Wonderful World"; Ad Libs, "The Boy from New York >City"; Peter Paul and Mary, "Blowin' in the Wind," > "Leavin' on a Jet Plane"; Rolling Stones, "Ruby Tuesday"; Simon & >Garfunkel, "Bridge Over Troubled Water"; Happenings, "See > You in September"; Carole King, "I Feel the Earth Move"; Yager and >Evans, "In the Year 2525"; Norman Greenbaum, "Spirit in > the Sky"; Brooklyn Bridge, "Worst That Could Happen"; Three Degrees, >"When Will I See You Again"; Cat Stevens, "Peace > Train," "Morning Has Broken"; Jan and Dean, "Dead Man's Curve"; Martha >& the Vandellas, "Nowhere to Run"; Martha and the > Vandellas/Van Halen, "Dancing in the Streets"; Hollies, "He Ain't >Heavy, He's My Brother"; Sam Cooke/ Herman Hermits, > "Wonderful World"; Petula Clark, "A Sign of the Times"; Don McLean, >"American Pie"; J. Frank Wilson, "Last Kiss"; Buddy > Holly and the Crickets, "That'll Be the Day"; Bobby Darin, "Mack the >Knife"; The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"; Surfaris, "Wipeout"; > Blood Sweat & Tears, "And When I Die"; Dave Clark Five, "Bits and >Pieces"; Tramps, "Disco Inferno"; Paper Lace, "The Night > Chicago Died"; Frank Sinatra, "New York, New York"; Creedence >Clearwater Revival, "Travelin' Band"; The Gap Band, "You > Dropped a Bomb On Me"; Alien Ant Farm, "Smooth Criminal"; 3 Doors Down, >"Duck and Run"; The Doors, "The End"; Third > Eye Blind, "Jumper"; Neil Diamond, "America"; Lenny Kravitz, "Fly >Away"; Tom Petty, "Free Fallin' "; Bruce Springsteen, "I'm > On Fire," "Goin' Down"; Phil Collins, "In the Air Tonight"; Alice in >Chains, "Rooster," "Sea of Sorrow," "Down in a Hole," "Them > Bone"; Beastie Boys, "Sure Shot," "Sabotage"; The Cult, "Fire Woman"; >Everclear, "Santa Monica"; Filter, "Hey Man, Nice > Shot"; Foo Fighters, "Learn to Fly"; Korn, "Falling Away From Me"; Red >Hot Chili Peppers, "Aeroplane," "Under the Bridge"; > Smashing Pumpkins, "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"; System of a Down, >"Chop Suey"; Skeeter Davis, "End of the World"; Ricky > Nelson, "Travelin' Man"; Chi-Lites, "Have You Seen Her"; Animals, "We >Gotta Get Out of This Place"; Fontella Bass, "Rescue > Me"; Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels, "Devil with the Blue Dress"; >James Taylor, "Fire and Rain"; Edwin Starr/Bruce > Springstein, "War"; Lynyrd Skynyrd, "Tuesday's Gone"; Limp Bizkit, >"Break Stuff"; Green Day, "Brain Stew"; Temple of the > Dog, "Say Hello to Heaven"; Sugar Ray, "Fly"; Local H, "Bound for the >Floor"; Slipknot, "Left Behind, Wait and Bleed"; Bush, > "Speed Kills"; 311, "Down"; Stone Temple Pilots, "Big Bang Baby," "Dead >and Bloated"; Soundgarden, "Fell on Black Days," > "Black Hole Sun"; Nina, "99 Luft Balloons/99 Red Balloons"; Drowning >Pool, "Bodies"; Mudvayne, "Death Blooms"; Megadeth, > "Dread and the Fugitive," "Sweating Bullets"; Saliva, "Click Click >Boom"; P.O.D. "Boom"; Metallica, "Harvester or Sorrow," > "Enter Sandman," "Fade to Black"; all songs by Rage Against The >Machine; Nine Inch Nails, "Head Like a Hole"; Godsmack, > "Bad Religion"; Tool, "Intolerance." > > > ?2001 St. Paul Pioneer Press. All Rights Reserved. > >-- >"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". >Gandhi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Tue Sep 18 10:30:51 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:30:51 -0400 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) In-Reply-To: <3BA74D2E.DEAB922@execpc.com> Message-ID: Did they say that they _should_ play BOC's "Divine Wind"??? Good thing that they also never heard of Masterminds' first release, BRAINSTORM. With such titles as "Call To Arms", "Tidings Of Battle", "Eye Of The Storm" and "War Machine", they would be having little pink kittens... (For those of you that have not heard of Mastermind, this 1987 debut release sounds VERY militaristic, if you couldn't guess from the titles. Sounds a lot like BRAIN SALAD SURGERY-era ELP, with Bill Berends on MIDI-synth-guitar, guitar, bass and vox (no keyboards!), his brother Rich on drums & percussion and Phil Antolino on bass & MIDI-bass pedals. A snippet of the lyrics from "A Call To Arms": "Victory, oh noble victory...we know our Cause is true now, it's clear we're right. Sympathies, oh holy sympathies... For those who did not make it through last night. Following the call of the wild We've shed our innocence, but like a child We've lost our way...oh holy way Cat's claw, nature's law, destiny Eagle's flight, the signal light is clear To lead the way...oh holy way" NP: Mastermind Vol. 1 Ship > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Karen Kusic > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 9:34 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid > (9/18/2001) > > > Blue Oyster Cult, "Burnin' For You" banned!!! > > http://www.pioneerplanet.com/news/ncl_docs/137030.htm > > Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid > > BRIAN LAMBERT Media critic > > Movies and TV aren't alone in reviewing the content of their > entertainment in the wake of last week's terrorist attacks. Clear > Channel Inc., which owns over 1,200 stations including seven in the > Twin Cities, is circulating a list of 150 songs its local > programmers might consider avoiding for the time being. > > Clear Channel managers here say the list is merely a "memo from the > main office," not something they must adhere to. > > Many of the songs on the list are heavy-metal warhorses like "Sweating > Bullets" by Megadeth, "Seek and Destroy" by Metallica > and a half-dozen cuts from AC/DC including "Safe in New York City," > "Highway to Hell," "TNT" and "Shot Down in Flames." > > Some of the 150 song titles "suggested" by Clear Channel are baffling. > > its stations avoid: SNIP! From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Sep 18 11:20:58 2001 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:20:58 +0100 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) Message-ID: Interesting they didn't include "Cities on Flame with Rock'n'Roll". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kusic" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:33 PM Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) > > Movies and TV aren't alone in reviewing the content of their > entertainment in the wake of last week's terrorist attacks. Clear > Channel Inc., which owns over 1,200 stations including seven in the > Twin Cities, is circulating a list of 150 songs its local > programmers might consider avoiding for the time being. From coral at APORT.RU Tue Sep 18 11:27:46 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:27:46 +0400 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) Message-ID: > Interesting they didn't include "Cities on Flame with Rock'n'Roll". And Hawkwind Hassan I Sahba... From coral at APORT.RU Tue Sep 18 11:28:59 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:28:59 +0400 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) Message-ID: they are too much care to be politically correct! it's stupidness. From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Sep 18 11:40:09 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:40:09 +0200 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) In-Reply-To: <000d01c14056$78cdc180$bd44efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: Hi, >And Hawkwind Hassan I Sahba... ... or the whole Einstuerzende Neubauten stuff, or... (c)IAO D'that list is totally idiotic'+R np: Front Line Assembly, "Tactical Neural Implant" From gerald.whitworth at PARTHUS.COM Tue Sep 18 11:50:38 2001 From: gerald.whitworth at PARTHUS.COM (Gerald Whitworth) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:50:38 +0100 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/ 2001) Message-ID: How did they miss Hawkwinds "Urban Guerrilla" (withdrawn in the UK soon after its release) -----Original Message----- From: Karen Kusic [mailto:kkusic at EXECPC.COM] Sent: Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:34 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) Blue Oyster Cult, "Burnin' For You" banned!!! http://www.pioneerplanet.com/news/ncl_docs/137030.htm Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid BRIAN LAMBERT Media critic Movies and TV aren't alone in reviewing the content of their entertainment in the wake of last week's terrorist attacks. Clear Channel Inc., which owns over 1,200 stations including seven in the Twin Cities, is circulating a list of 150 songs its local programmers might consider avoiding for the time being. Clear Channel managers here say the list is merely a "memo from the main office," not something they must adhere to. Many of the songs on the list are heavy-metal warhorses like "Sweating Bullets" by Megadeth, "Seek and Destroy" by Metallica and a half-dozen cuts from AC/DC including "Safe in New York City," "Highway to Hell," "TNT" and "Shot Down in Flames." Some of the 150 song titles "suggested" by Clear Channel are baffling. John Lennon's "Imagine" and The Youngbloods' "Get Together" would seem to be precisely the sort of message people might like to hear in difficult times. Likewise, who could possibly object to Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World"? Several Beatles songs -- "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds," "Obla Di Obla Da" and "Ticket to Ride" -- are also on the list. "You know what this is?" says KEEY-FM's operations manager Gregg Swedberg. "It's a bunch of people sitting in a room saying, "Think of anything, anything, anywhere that might possibly be a little too much, that people might be sensitive to.' "This is just another idea we get. Something for us to "consider.' Nothing more than that." Swedberg adds that K102, a country-music format, returned Garth Brooks' early '90s tune, "We Shall Be Free," to its rotation in reaction to the crisis. Rob Morris, program director for Clear Channel-owned KDWB-FM, said he expected few if any changes to his station's playlist. ABC-owned KXXR-FM, aka 93X, did not respond to several calls asking what changes they might be making to their playlist. Here are some of the other reported song titles Clear Channel suggested its stations avoid: Black Sabbath, "War Pigs," "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath," "Suicide Solution"; Dio, "Holy Diver"; Steve Miller, "Jet Airliner"; Van Halen, "Jump"; Queen, "Another One Bites the Dust," "Killer Queen"; Pat Benatar, "Hit Me with Your Best Shot," "Love is a Battlefield"; Oingo Boingo, "Dead Man's Party"; REM, "It's the End of the World as We Know It"; Talking Heads, "Burning Down the House"; Judas Priest, "Some Heads Are Gonna Roll"; Pink Floyd, "Run Like Hell"; Pink Floyd, "Mother"; Savage Garden, "Crash and Burn"; Dave Matthews Band, "Crash Into Me"; Bangles, "Walk Like an Egyptian"; Pretenders, "My City Was Gone"; Alanis Morissette, "Ironic"; Barenaked Ladies, "Falling for the First Time"; Fuel, "Bad Day"; John Parr, "St. Elmo's Fire"; Peter Gabriel, "When You're Falling"; Kansas, "Dust in the Wind"; Led Zeppelin, "Stairway to Heaven"; Bob Dylan/Guns N Roses, "Knockin' on Heaven's Door"; Arthur Brown, "Fire"; Blue Oyster Cult, "Burnin' For You"; Paul McCartney and Wings, "Live and Let Die"; Jimi Hendrix, "Hey Joe"; Jackson Brown, "Doctor My Eyes"; John Mellencamp, "Crumbling Down," "I'm On Fire"; U2, "Sunday Bloody Sunday"; Boston, "Smokin"; Billy Joel, "Only the Good Die Young"; Barry McGuire, "Eve of Destruction"; Steam, "Na Na Na Na Hey Hey"; Drifters, "On Broadway"; Shelly Fabares, "Johnny Angel"; Los Bravos, "Black is Black"; Peter and Gordon, "I Go To Pieces," "A World Without Love"; Elvis, "(You're the) Devil in Disguise"; Zombies, "She's Not There"; Elton John, "Benny & The Jets," "Daniel," "Rocket Man"; Jerry Lee Lewis, "Great Balls of Fire"; Santana, "Evil Ways;" Louis Armstrong, "What A Wonderful World"; Ad Libs, "The Boy from New York City"; Peter Paul and Mary, "Blowin' in the Wind," "Leavin' on a Jet Plane"; Rolling Stones, "Ruby Tuesday"; Simon & Garfunkel, "Bridge Over Troubled Water"; Happenings, "See You in September"; Carole King, "I Feel the Earth Move"; Yager and Evans, "In the Year 2525"; Norman Greenbaum, "Spirit in the Sky"; Brooklyn Bridge, "Worst That Could Happen"; Three Degrees, "When Will I See You Again"; Cat Stevens, "Peace Train," "Morning Has Broken"; Jan and Dean, "Dead Man's Curve"; Martha & the Vandellas, "Nowhere to Run"; Martha and the Vandellas/Van Halen, "Dancing in the Streets"; Hollies, "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother"; Sam Cooke/ Herman Hermits, "Wonderful World"; Petula Clark, "A Sign of the Times"; Don McLean, "American Pie"; J. Frank Wilson, "Last Kiss"; Buddy Holly and the Crickets, "That'll Be the Day"; Bobby Darin, "Mack the Knife"; The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"; Surfaris, "Wipeout"; Blood Sweat & Tears, "And When I Die"; Dave Clark Five, "Bits and Pieces"; Tramps, "Disco Inferno"; Paper Lace, "The Night Chicago Died"; Frank Sinatra, "New York, New York"; Creedence Clearwater Revival, "Travelin' Band"; The Gap Band, "You Dropped a Bomb On Me"; Alien Ant Farm, "Smooth Criminal"; 3 Doors Down, "Duck and Run"; The Doors, "The End"; Third Eye Blind, "Jumper"; Neil Diamond, "America"; Lenny Kravitz, "Fly Away"; Tom Petty, "Free Fallin' "; Bruce Springsteen, "I'm On Fire," "Goin' Down"; Phil Collins, "In the Air Tonight"; Alice in Chains, "Rooster," "Sea of Sorrow," "Down in a Hole," "Them Bone"; Beastie Boys, "Sure Shot," "Sabotage"; The Cult, "Fire Woman"; Everclear, "Santa Monica"; Filter, "Hey Man, Nice Shot"; Foo Fighters, "Learn to Fly"; Korn, "Falling Away From Me"; Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Aeroplane," "Under the Bridge"; Smashing Pumpkins, "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"; System of a Down, "Chop Suey"; Skeeter Davis, "End of the World"; Ricky Nelson, "Travelin' Man"; Chi-Lites, "Have You Seen Her"; Animals, "We Gotta Get Out of This Place"; Fontella Bass, "Rescue Me"; Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels, "Devil with the Blue Dress"; James Taylor, "Fire and Rain"; Edwin Starr/Bruce Springstein, "War"; Lynyrd Skynyrd, "Tuesday's Gone"; Limp Bizkit, "Break Stuff"; Green Day, "Brain Stew"; Temple of the Dog, "Say Hello to Heaven"; Sugar Ray, "Fly"; Local H, "Bound for the Floor"; Slipknot, "Left Behind, Wait and Bleed"; Bush, "Speed Kills"; 311, "Down"; Stone Temple Pilots, "Big Bang Baby," "Dead and Bloated"; Soundgarden, "Fell on Black Days," "Black Hole Sun"; Nina, "99 Luft Balloons/99 Red Balloons"; Drowning Pool, "Bodies"; Mudvayne, "Death Blooms"; Megadeth, "Dread and the Fugitive," "Sweating Bullets"; Saliva, "Click Click Boom"; P.O.D. "Boom"; Metallica, "Harvester or Sorrow," "Enter Sandman," "Fade to Black"; all songs by Rage Against The Machine; Nine Inch Nails, "Head Like a Hole"; Godsmack, "Bad Religion"; Tool, "Intolerance." ?2001 St. Paul Pioneer Press. All Rights Reserved. -- "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Gandhi From tclark at PETRONET.NET Tue Sep 18 11:56:44 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:56:44 -0500 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) Message-ID: I know someone is about to mention that they also missed "High Rise"? Gerald Whitworth wrote: > How did they miss Hawkwinds "Urban Guerrilla" (withdrawn in the UK soon > after its release) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Kusic [mailto:kkusic at EXECPC.COM] > Sent: Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:34 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid > (9/18/2001) > > Blue Oyster Cult, "Burnin' For You" banned!!! > > http://www.pioneerplanet.com/news/ncl_docs/137030.htm > > Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid > > BRIAN LAMBERT Media critic > > Movies and TV aren't alone in reviewing the content of their > entertainment in the wake of last week's terrorist attacks. Clear > Channel Inc., which owns over 1,200 stations including seven in the > Twin Cities, is circulating a list of 150 songs its local > programmers might consider avoiding for the time being. > > Clear Channel managers here say the list is merely a "memo from the > main office," not something they must adhere to. > > Many of the songs on the list are heavy-metal warhorses like "Sweating > Bullets" by Megadeth, "Seek and Destroy" by Metallica > and a half-dozen cuts from AC/DC including "Safe in New York City," > "Highway to Hell," "TNT" and "Shot Down in Flames." > > Some of the 150 song titles "suggested" by Clear Channel are baffling. > > John Lennon's "Imagine" and The Youngbloods' "Get Together" would seem > to be precisely the sort of message people might > like to hear in difficult times. Likewise, who could possibly object to > Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World"? > > Several Beatles songs -- "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds," "Obla Di Obla > Da" and "Ticket to Ride" -- are also on the list. > > "You know what this is?" says KEEY-FM's operations manager Gregg > Swedberg. "It's a bunch of people sitting in a room > saying, "Think of anything, anything, anywhere that might possibly be a > little too much, that people might be sensitive to.' > > "This is just another idea we get. Something for us to "consider.' > Nothing more than that." > > Swedberg adds that K102, a country-music format, returned Garth Brooks' > early '90s tune, "We Shall Be Free," to its rotation in > reaction to the crisis. > > Rob Morris, program director for Clear Channel-owned KDWB-FM, said he > expected few if any changes to his station's playlist. > > ABC-owned KXXR-FM, aka 93X, did not respond to several calls asking > what changes they might be making to their playlist. > > Here are some of the other reported song titles Clear Channel suggested > its stations avoid: > > Black Sabbath, "War Pigs," "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath," "Suicide > Solution"; Dio, "Holy Diver"; Steve Miller, "Jet Airliner"; Van > Halen, "Jump"; Queen, "Another One Bites the Dust," "Killer Queen"; Pat > Benatar, "Hit Me with Your Best Shot," "Love is a > Battlefield"; Oingo Boingo, "Dead Man's Party"; REM, "It's the End of > the World as We Know It"; Talking Heads, "Burning Down > the House"; Judas Priest, "Some Heads Are Gonna Roll"; Pink Floyd, "Run > Like Hell"; Pink Floyd, "Mother"; Savage Garden, > "Crash and Burn"; Dave Matthews Band, "Crash Into Me"; Bangles, "Walk > Like an Egyptian"; Pretenders, "My City Was Gone"; > Alanis Morissette, "Ironic"; Barenaked Ladies, "Falling for the First > Time"; Fuel, "Bad Day"; John Parr, "St. Elmo's Fire"; Peter > Gabriel, "When You're Falling"; Kansas, "Dust in the Wind"; Led > Zeppelin, "Stairway to Heaven"; Bob Dylan/Guns N Roses, > "Knockin' on Heaven's Door"; Arthur Brown, "Fire"; Blue Oyster Cult, > "Burnin' For You"; Paul McCartney and Wings, "Live and > Let Die"; Jimi Hendrix, "Hey Joe"; Jackson Brown, "Doctor My Eyes"; > John Mellencamp, "Crumbling Down," "I'm On Fire"; U2, > "Sunday Bloody Sunday"; Boston, "Smokin"; Billy Joel, "Only the Good > Die Young"; Barry McGuire, "Eve of Destruction"; > Steam, "Na Na Na Na Hey Hey"; Drifters, "On Broadway"; Shelly Fabares, > "Johnny Angel"; Los Bravos, "Black is Black"; Peter > and Gordon, "I Go To Pieces," "A World Without Love"; Elvis, "(You're > the) Devil in Disguise"; Zombies, "She's Not There"; Elton > John, "Benny & The Jets," "Daniel," "Rocket Man"; Jerry Lee Lewis, > "Great Balls of Fire"; Santana, "Evil Ways;" Louis > Armstrong, "What A Wonderful World"; Ad Libs, "The Boy from New York > City"; Peter Paul and Mary, "Blowin' in the Wind," > "Leavin' on a Jet Plane"; Rolling Stones, "Ruby Tuesday"; Simon & > Garfunkel, "Bridge Over Troubled Water"; Happenings, "See > You in September"; Carole King, "I Feel the Earth Move"; Yager and > Evans, "In the Year 2525"; Norman Greenbaum, "Spirit in > the Sky"; Brooklyn Bridge, "Worst That Could Happen"; Three Degrees, > "When Will I See You Again"; Cat Stevens, "Peace > Train," "Morning Has Broken"; Jan and Dean, "Dead Man's Curve"; Martha > & the Vandellas, "Nowhere to Run"; Martha and the > Vandellas/Van Halen, "Dancing in the Streets"; Hollies, "He Ain't > Heavy, He's My Brother"; Sam Cooke/ Herman Hermits, > "Wonderful World"; Petula Clark, "A Sign of the Times"; Don McLean, > "American Pie"; J. Frank Wilson, "Last Kiss"; Buddy > Holly and the Crickets, "That'll Be the Day"; Bobby Darin, "Mack the > Knife"; The Clash, "Rock the Casbah"; Surfaris, "Wipeout"; > Blood Sweat & Tears, "And When I Die"; Dave Clark Five, "Bits and > Pieces"; Tramps, "Disco Inferno"; Paper Lace, "The Night > Chicago Died"; Frank Sinatra, "New York, New York"; Creedence > Clearwater Revival, "Travelin' Band"; The Gap Band, "You > Dropped a Bomb On Me"; Alien Ant Farm, "Smooth Criminal"; 3 Doors Down, > "Duck and Run"; The Doors, "The End"; Third > Eye Blind, "Jumper"; Neil Diamond, "America"; Lenny Kravitz, "Fly > Away"; Tom Petty, "Free Fallin' "; Bruce Springsteen, "I'm > On Fire," "Goin' Down"; Phil Collins, "In the Air Tonight"; Alice in > Chains, "Rooster," "Sea of Sorrow," "Down in a Hole," "Them > Bone"; Beastie Boys, "Sure Shot," "Sabotage"; The Cult, "Fire Woman"; > Everclear, "Santa Monica"; Filter, "Hey Man, Nice > Shot"; Foo Fighters, "Learn to Fly"; Korn, "Falling Away From Me"; Red > Hot Chili Peppers, "Aeroplane," "Under the Bridge"; > Smashing Pumpkins, "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"; System of a Down, > "Chop Suey"; Skeeter Davis, "End of the World"; Ricky > Nelson, "Travelin' Man"; Chi-Lites, "Have You Seen Her"; Animals, "We > Gotta Get Out of This Place"; Fontella Bass, "Rescue > Me"; Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels, "Devil with the Blue Dress"; > James Taylor, "Fire and Rain"; Edwin Starr/Bruce > Springstein, "War"; Lynyrd Skynyrd, "Tuesday's Gone"; Limp Bizkit, > "Break Stuff"; Green Day, "Brain Stew"; Temple of the > Dog, "Say Hello to Heaven"; Sugar Ray, "Fly"; Local H, "Bound for the > Floor"; Slipknot, "Left Behind, Wait and Bleed"; Bush, > "Speed Kills"; 311, "Down"; Stone Temple Pilots, "Big Bang Baby," "Dead > and Bloated"; Soundgarden, "Fell on Black Days," > "Black Hole Sun"; Nina, "99 Luft Balloons/99 Red Balloons"; Drowning > Pool, "Bodies"; Mudvayne, "Death Blooms"; Megadeth, > "Dread and the Fugitive," "Sweating Bullets"; Saliva, "Click Click > Boom"; P.O.D. "Boom"; Metallica, "Harvester or Sorrow," > "Enter Sandman," "Fade to Black"; all songs by Rage Against The > Machine; Nine Inch Nails, "Head Like a Hole"; Godsmack, > "Bad Religion"; Tool, "Intolerance." > > ?2001 St. Paul Pioneer Press. All Rights Reserved. > > -- > "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". > Gandhi From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Sep 18 12:06:22 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:06:22 -0400 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) In-Reply-To: <000d01c14056$78cdc180$bd44efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Alice wrote: => And Hawkwind Hassan I Sahba... There's no need for them to inform their affiliate stations not to play a song if those stations would never play it anyway. Ditto for "Urban Guerilla," "High Rise," et al. No need to "ban" songs that don't pass commercial radio muster... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Sep 18 13:18:33 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:18:33 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons sterling Message-ID: Ah, but you can also get them here; http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=BRAIN_SURGEONS&s=1151 If you're ordering more than 1 it works out cheaper. Z Jon wrote; Have to pause and recommend these people though, they are the business. As well as far as I know being the only place you can buy Brain Surgeons albums for Sterling (though at a mark-up that makes the whole business considerably less desirable) they can track down a lot of other stuff, and they _are_, by and large, cheap for the UK. Also, they don't charge postage, which makes a hell of a difference. Use them. Yours, Jon From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Sep 18 13:19:41 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:19:41 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons sterling Message-ID: Oh and cow.co.uk do charge shipping if you're outwith the UK >> Ah, but you can also get them here; http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=BRAIN_SURGEONS&s=1151 If you're ordering more than 1 it works out cheaper. Z Jon wrote; Have to pause and recommend these people though, they are the business. As well as far as I know being the only place you can buy Brain Surgeons albums for Sterling (though at a mark-up that makes the whole business considerably less desirable) they can track down a lot of other stuff, and they _are_, by and large, cheap for the UK. Also, they don't charge postage, which makes a hell of a difference. Use them. Yours, Jon From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Sep 18 14:30:39 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:30:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Brock new tracklist Message-ID: Hi Kids, To lighten everyone's mood, here's the track list for the new Brock 'Memos and Demos' CD: Clouded Vision/State of mind (instrumental)/State of mind/Tuning in/Kauai/Morpheus/Find the right way/Didn't I have a problem/Luna/Love In Space/Surreal sex dreams/Just drifitng/Sweet Obsession/Why is a raven like a writing desk?/Space riders and sex dreams/Distant islands. Interesting huh? Andy Garibaldi From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Sep 18 14:32:55 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:32:55 +0100 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) Message-ID: couldn't agree more - totally ridiculous - is anyone really THAT sensitive? Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 4:28 PM Subject: Re: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) > they are too much care to be politically correct! it's stupidness. From nick at NETPHD.NET Tue Sep 18 16:12:21 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:12:21 -0400 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) In-Reply-To: <00b901c14070$55ed1480$b697bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: For the record, Clear Channel denied today (Tuesday) that it sent such a list to any of its stations. And in the corporate radio wars, I\'d believe that a competitor could have floated it just to make them look stupid. They note that one of their top stations, Z-100 in New York, is playing \"New York, New York\" CONSTANTLY, even though it\'s one of the supposedly \"banned\" songs. And think about it. . . it really WOULD take a COMPLETE idiot to ban \"New York, New York\", wouldn\'t it? Don\'t get me wrong. . . I worked at one of an ever-shrinking number of independently-owned stations for about four years. . . and I HATE Clear Channel and everything they stand for. But they couldn\'t be that stupid. --Nick From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Sep 18 16:15:38 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:15:38 -0400 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:06:22 -0400, Paul Mather wrote: >There's no need for them to inform their affiliate stations not to play >a song if those stations would never play it anyway. Ditto for "Urban >Guerilla," "High Rise," et al. > >No need to "ban" songs that don't pass commercial radio muster... Exactly. Clear Channel is an American company[*], so *of course* there's no way Hawkwind would EVER get played on one of their stations. [*] And a particularly EVIL one at that, see: http://www.salon.com/ent/clear_channel/ for several related stories ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Tue Sep 18 16:42:22 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:42:22 -0700 Subject: Clear Channel Message-ID: Well, in their favor (a CC station was the best choice available while I was in Austin TX last week), they announced that the $100,000 that they were going to give away in a contest has instead been donated to the relief effort. While I don't at all like their business practices, I admire what they did there... scorch From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Sep 18 17:43:57 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:43:57 -0400 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/ 2001) In-Reply-To: ; from gerald.whitworth@PARTHUS.COM on Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 04:50:38PM +0100 Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 04:50:38PM +0100, Gerald Whitworth wrote: > How did they miss Hawkwinds "Urban Guerrilla" (withdrawn in the UK soon > after its release) Same way they've missed it all along :-( As someone else said, no point in banning something that hasn't the proverbial snowball's chance in the first place. But more likely, they've never heard of it, or the band for that matter. Rzzzz. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] We must be guided by a commitment to do what works in the long run and not by what makes us feel better in the short run. - Jean Chretien, Prime Minister of Canada on responses to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Sep 18 18:33:18 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:33:18 -0500 Subject: OFF: Anthrax Message-ID: Anything to worry about??? http://www.anthrax.osd.mil/ From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 18 20:30:06 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:30:06 EDT Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) Message-ID: It's what they say: "Hydrogen is not the most common element in the universe. Stupidity is." Joe From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Sep 18 22:15:05 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:15:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anthrax In-Reply-To: <3BA7CBAD.20BCB2FA@execpc.com>; from kkusic@EXECPC.COM on Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:33:18PM -0500 Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:33:18PM -0500, Karen Kusic wrote: > Anything to worry about??? > > http://www.anthrax.osd.mil/ That someone (military or terrorist) will someday release anthrax as a weapon? Yeah, probably. At least a couple of governments have prepared stocks of the stuff. It's only a matter of time, I suspect. That the site uses Flash and looks like a video game? Only American taxpayers :-/ -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment to do what works in the long run, not by what makes us feel better in the short run. - Jean Chr?tien, Prime Minister of Canada From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Wed Sep 5 16:34:53 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:34:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: Girlschool In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sounds good to me, since Hitchin is only a cough & a spit down the road from me!!! Barby in the back yard beforehand perhaps... ChrisW At 11:35 04/09/01, you wrote: >I see that the magnificent Girlschool are playing Hitchin Town Hall on >September 23rd! > >www.thechurchofleatherandstud.co.uk > >Same venue Hawkwind and Bedouin will be at later in the year, of course. > >Anyone else up for it? Me and Carl will be there for sure! > >"We're the barmy Girlschool army, la la la la la..." > >-- Andy > >www.andygilham.com "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Sep 19 09:44:54 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:44:54 EDT Subject: Off:Diamanda Galas in London Message-ID: Diamanda Galas is at the Royal Festival Hall, London SE1 (020-7960 4242), on Thursday. Best regards, Bill Stewart From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Sep 19 14:19:34 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:19:34 +0100 Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid(9/18/2001) Message-ID: Joe Loehr wrote: > It's what they say: > > "Hydrogen is not the most common element in the universe. Stupidity is." > > Joe The thought "Clear=clear of what? rational thought?" occurs to me, however uncharitably! From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Sep 19 14:20:32 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:20:32 +0100 Subject: Clear Channel Message-ID: "John H. McCartney" wrote: > While I don't at all like their business practices, I admire > what they did there... > But do you question their motives?? From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Sep 19 14:26:20 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:26:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Anthrax Message-ID: Eric Siegerman wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:33:18PM -0500, Karen Kusic wrote: > > Anything to worry about??? > > > > http://www.anthrax.osd.mil/ > > That someone (military or terrorist) will someday release anthrax > as a weapon? Yeah, probably. At least a couple of governments > have prepared stocks of the stuff. It's only a matter of time, I > suspect. > Rather than worrying about nations releasing anthrax on the unsuspecting flock, shouldn't responsible DJs and socially aware people generally be releasing Hawkwind on their neighbours, friends and loved ones in an effort to raise the level of the vibrations (sic) of the planet? f rat From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Wed Sep 19 14:25:56 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:25:56 -0400 Subject: High Rise Message-ID: I don't think any Hawkwind tune gets me in the gut more than hearing Calvert sing "High Rise". I've always felt this way, but now it seems even more apparent....Peace, MIke Burro www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Wed Sep 19 15:30:08 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:30:08 +0100 Subject: Clear Channel Message-ID: Forgive my lack of knowledge here........ But....... Could someone PLEASE tell me what it is that these Clear Channel people have done to make you lot hate them so???? Layla. >>> hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK 09/19/01 07:20pm >>> "John H. McCartney" wrote: > While I don't at all like their business practices, I admire > what they did there... > But do you question their motives?? From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Wed Sep 19 15:32:19 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:32:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: Anthrax Message-ID: don't make me worry more than I already am... please... some of us (namely ME) are currently in a perminant state of panic because I don't want to be killed by a bunch of bomb-dropping/anthrax-throwing bastards!!!! (Breath Layla, don't forget to breath......) cough... cough... L. xx >>> hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK 09/19/01 07:26pm >>> Eric Siegerman wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:33:18PM -0500, Karen Kusic wrote: > > Anything to worry about??? > > > > http://www.anthrax.osd.mil/ > > That someone (military or terrorist) will someday release anthrax > as a weapon? Yeah, probably. At least a couple of governments > have prepared stocks of the stuff. It's only a matter of time, I > suspect. > Rather than worrying about nations releasing anthrax on the unsuspecting flock, shouldn't responsible DJs and socially aware people generally be releasing Hawkwind on their neighbours, friends and loved ones in an effort to raise the level of the vibrations (sic) of the planet? f rat From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Sep 19 15:35:35 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:35:35 -0500 Subject: Clear Channel Message-ID: OK gang ... As the original poster of the so-called suggested song "ban" list, I should help clarify. The message stated that the list contained songs to "consider" not playing during this time. The whole notice may have been a hoax to begin with. Read explanation here: http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/hoaxes/radio.htm Another urban legend. Karen Layla Thompson wrote: > > Forgive my lack of knowledge here........ > > But....... > > Could someone PLEASE tell me what it is that these Clear Channel people have done to make you lot hate them so???? > > Layla. > > >>> hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK 09/19/01 07:20pm >>> > "John H. McCartney" wrote: > > > While I don't at all like their business practices, I admire > > what they did there... > > > > But do you question their motives?? -- "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Gandhi From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Wed Sep 19 15:49:15 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:49:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anthrax...do not panic...do not panic...do not panic... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Go dig out your copy of HW's "Sonic Attack" and loop the verse from the title track "...do not panic...do not panic...". Make it your mantra... (ahhhh, there it is, the old stuffed gooney bird with his big red Federal Express button that reads "Don't Panic!" onnit. Time for you to come out of retirement! Up to the top of the monitor you go. That's better...) Ship > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Layla Thompson > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:32 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: Anthrax > > > don't make me worry more than I already am... > > please... > > some of us (namely ME) are currently in a perminant state of > panic because I don't want to be killed by a bunch of > bomb-dropping/anthrax-throwing bastards!!!! > > (Breath Layla, don't forget to breath......) > > cough... cough... > > L. xx > > > > >>> hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK 09/19/01 07:26pm >>> > Eric Siegerman wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:33:18PM -0500, Karen Kusic wrote: > > > Anything to worry about??? > > > > > > http://www.anthrax.osd.mil/ > > > > That someone (military or terrorist) will someday release anthrax > > as a weapon? Yeah, probably. At least a couple of governments > > have prepared stocks of the stuff. It's only a matter of time, I > > suspect. > > > > Rather than worrying about nations releasing anthrax on the unsuspecting > flock, shouldn't responsible DJs and socially aware people generally be > releasing Hawkwind on their neighbours, friends and loved ones in > an effort > to raise the level of the vibrations (sic) of the planet? > > f rat > From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Wed Sep 19 16:17:17 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:17:17 -0500 Subject: Off Re: Clear Channel Message-ID: I can't resist any longer. They are a corporation that tries to make money, isn't that nasty. Also they had the gall to release a list of songs that their DJs might want to think twice about playing until people's emotions calm down. They didn't want to offend people, probably motivated by greed, the dirty bums. I know I'd appreciate "Burnin' for you" if my mom was under that pile of smoldering rubble, but I'm a nut. People get over it, your favorite classic rock should be back in full force real soon. Nobody is trying to ban it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Clear Channel > Forgive my lack of knowledge here........ > > But....... > > Could someone PLEASE tell me what it is that these Clear Channel people have done to make you lot hate them so???? > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Sep 19 17:02:04 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:02:04 -0400 Subject: Clear Channel Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:30:08 +0100, Layla Thompson wrote: >Forgive my lack of knowledge here........ > > But....... > > Could someone PLEASE tell me what it is that these Clear Channel people have done to make you lot hate them so???? #1: Consolidation of mass media leads to a "dumbing-down" of content, and filters out "alternative" news/music - like Hawkwind! #2: Did you see the post from the guy who used to work FOR them? #3: Did you read the articles at the link I posted? http://www.salon.com/ent/clear_channel/ -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From nycademon at HOME.COM Wed Sep 19 17:31:21 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:31:21 -0600 Subject: Clear Channel In-Reply-To: <200109192102.RAA06436@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Could we, just maybe, ditch this stupid bleepin' thread? Thanks, Guido -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Doug Pearson Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:02 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Clear Channel On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:30:08 +0100, Layla Thompson wrote: >Forgive my lack of knowledge here........ > > But....... > > Could someone PLEASE tell me what it is that these Clear Channel people have done to make you lot hate them so???? #1: Consolidation of mass media leads to a "dumbing-down" of content, and filters out "alternative" news/music - like Hawkwind! #2: Did you see the post from the guy who used to work FOR them? #3: Did you read the articles at the link I posted? http://www.salon.com/ent/clear_channel/ -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From coral at APORT.RU Wed Sep 19 17:18:21 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:18:21 +0400 Subject: HW: drums on Electric Tepee Message-ID: Hello! How do you think: Are the drums on this album are drumcomputer or it is Richard playing and they just made the sound artificial? Alice From nycademon at HOME.COM Wed Sep 19 17:32:44 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:32:44 -0600 Subject: Clear Channel Message-ID: Could we, just maybe, ditch this stupid bleepin' thread already? Thanks, Guido -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Doug Pearson Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:02 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Clear Channel On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:30:08 +0100, Layla Thompson wrote: >Forgive my lack of knowledge here........ > > But....... > > Could someone PLEASE tell me what it is that these Clear Channel people have done to make you lot hate them so???? #1: Consolidation of mass media leads to a "dumbing-down" of content, and filters out "alternative" news/music - like Hawkwind! #2: Did you see the post from the guy who used to work FOR them? #3: Did you read the articles at the link I posted? http://www.salon.com/ent/clear_channel/ -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Wed Sep 19 14:33:36 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:33:36 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anthrax Message-ID: Great!!! I start releasing HW into the ethers tonight!! Dr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: fatrat [SMTP:hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:26 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Anthrax Eric Siegerman wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:33:18PM -0500, Karen Kusic wrote: > > Anything to worry about??? > > > > http://www.anthrax.osd.mil/ > > That someone (military or terrorist) will someday release anthrax > as a weapon? Yeah, probably. At least a couple of governments > have prepared stocks of the stuff. It's only a matter of time, I > suspect. > Rather than worrying about nations releasing anthrax on the unsuspecting flock, shouldn't responsible DJs and socially aware people generally be releasing Hawkwind on their neighbours, friends and loved ones in an effort to raise the level of the vibrations (sic) of the planet? f rat From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Wed Sep 19 18:15:19 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:15:19 +0200 Subject: HW: drums on Electric Tepee In-Reply-To: <004801c14150$9ce188e0$9404efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: Hi Alice, >Hello! >How do you think: Are the drums on this album are drumcomputer or it is >Richard playing and they just made the sound artificial? >Alice I think it's both: cool Richard Chadwick live drumming _and_ good drumcomp programming. (c)IAO D+R np: Univers Zero, "Heresie" From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Sep 19 18:47:53 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:47:53 -0400 Subject: HW: drums on Electric Tepee Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:15:19 +0200, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: >Hi Alice, > >>How do you think: Are the drums on this album are drumcomputer or it is >>Richard playing and they just made the sound artificial? >>Alice > >I think it's both: cool Richard Chadwick live drumming _and_ good drumcomp >programming. It's almost certainly both. I assume that's the album where Richard started using triggered drum machines along with live drumming. Closeup concert photos of his kit these days reveal a number of drum/sample machines behind him, which he triggers during performances (one of the best examples of this would be the "Space Is Their" segment of "Hassan i Sahba"). Having said that, 'Electric Teepee' was also the first album Hawkwind recorded "at home", rather than in professional studios (mostly Rockfield in Wales; 'Space Bandits' was the last album HW recorded there). Since they're acoustic by nature, it's MUCH more difficult to get good sounds out of a drumkit than from guitar/bass/synth, so the fact that 'Electric Teepee' was (I assume) recorded without expensive microphones, NOT in an acoustically-engineered room, could easily account for a lesser drum sound. I would also suspect that Richard's "live" parts were recorded with a click track, which (obviously) can tend to make real drumming sound more mechanical, like a drum machine. Improved technology (both in recording AND in live/MIDI interfacing) and greater familiarity/more experience with whatever room the drums are recorded in have led to better drum sounds on subsequent HW albums. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From coral at APORT.RU Wed Sep 19 19:00:30 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 03:00:30 +0400 Subject: HW: drums on Electric Tepee Message-ID: > I think it's both: cool Richard Chadwick live drumming _and_ good drumcomp > programming. Yes, I think the same thing. On some tracks there is definitely computer. But rocking ones are live drumming. From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Sep 19 19:47:52 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:47:52 -0400 Subject: Clear Channel Message-ID: we have at least a few clear channel stations...they like to make music `safe' for the middle-of-the-road crowd.all the classic rock ones,same songs and same artists no matter which one you listen to.goes without saying no hawkwind,but not even any kinks unless its lola.apparently the only song they ever made. anyway,that's why i don't like them. tim Layla Thompson wrote: > > Forgive my lack of knowledge here........ > > But....... > > Could someone PLEASE tell me what it is that these Clear Channel people have done > to make you lot hate them so???? > > Layla. > > > > >>> hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK 09/19/01 07:20pm >>> > "John H. McCartney" wrote: > > > While I don't at all like their business practices, I admire > > what they did there... > > > > But do you question their motives?? From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Sep 19 19:50:10 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:50:10 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anthrax Message-ID: no wait!!! don't breath-that only makes it worse....aaarrgghhh................. tim(sorry) Layla Thompson wrote: > > don't make me worry more than I already am... > > please... > > some of us (namely ME) are currently in a perminant state of panic because I > don't want to be killed by a bunch of bomb-dropping/anthrax-throwing bastards!!!! > > (Breath Layla, don't forget to breath......) > > cough... cough... > > L. xx From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Sep 19 19:28:19 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:28:19 +0100 Subject: BOC - remasters In-Reply-To: <3B3C80CC.DBAC0ECE@mitre.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, John A. Swartz wrote: > I've finished listening to the first round of BOC remasters and they are > KILLER! Excellent sound and packaging and the bonus tracks are great. The bottom end is back! You can at last actually use these damn things to DJ with and not have them sound like tin. This meant that the Cambridge Rock Society club night got `Dominance & Submission' played at them the first chance I had. > A few comments on them: > Boorman the Chauffer - Smokin' Joe Bouchard track that really should > have been on the album. I'm in two minds about that. It is a *great* track, but I can't quite figure out if its quirkiness would have seemed out of place in the original running order. I suppose it's no more comprehensible than any of the other songs... > Mommy - nasty lyrics - and we thought BOC were just Nazi's... ;-) That's also a top track, but in this case you really can see why they left it off - it's not exactly occult :-) > Mes Dames Sarat - need to listen to this a bit more... My first reaction to that one was, "Hey! They liked `The Red and the Black' so much they wrote it twice!" But actually despite the similarity in the bassline it's a real twister of a song, and Eric's really working at sounding offhand. I think this is a top performance. What puzzles me is why Alan turned out such great songs with the band and then as soon as home recording turns up... well, `In Thee' is the only one of his post-1975 for which I can find even grudging praise. > Career of Evil - Single version with tamed lyrics. "Do it like ya oughta..." Actually makes the backing vocal a lot easier to hear too... > Fire of Unknown Origin - Very different music - more simplistic than > what ultimately came out, but interesting to hear. > > Sally - Neat, although tBS version on *Eponymous* blows this away - but > you can hear the beginnings of a really great song. Pair of Al specials, really. I was slightly disappointed by the former, actually, because I remember Al posting ages back saying how sorry he was it hadn't been put on the album because he'd given his absolute all getting the vocals right, and it's not as impressive as I imagined it. On the other hand though I wouldn't deny the tBS version of `Sally' takes the crown, I am *really* impressed by Al's singing here, he's managing to get all kinds of little diversions into the space of the lines and it actually sounds subtler to me than the tBS version. > Reaper (demo) - good stuff - some have heard this before - it's on the > Buck Dharma Archive CDs - The "drums" are actually Buck pounding on a > book as well as saying "Pssssshh" for a cymbal - amazing how well it sounds! It is shocking how good a version it is considering it's recorded with the same gear wit which Alan turned out the following one... > Dance the Night Away - Jim Carroll eventually released a version of > this. I need to listen to this a bit more... No, don't bother. It's really not very good. There might conceivably be a decent song in there somewhere but I can't hear it. And how can it sound, when he has a four-track and a piano, so much worse than the (very similarly styled in fact) Becker & Fagen pre-Steely Dan tracks of which it reminds me, which they recorded with vocals mikes and a tape recorded? Ugh. > Indeed they are. Whether you want to argue that they don't have the > same finesse as the Bouchards or not, they are definitely great players. > They give the band a harder sound than what they had in the 1980's - > less subtle in times, but it definitely works well for them live. I think Danny could whip it up as much as Joe if he had the space but I think he has to be part of the sort of rhythm section that Bobby can do his best in, which is as you say less subtle. But Danny's solos remind you how many other intsruments he plays and you know it could be different... > > The liner notes remind me of A.Levy's liner notes to Career of Evil: the > > Metal Years style. What does anyone else think of 'em so far? > > A little bit, although I'm liking them better. Some of the writings > though make you wonder if BOC put as much thought into the meaning of > their stuff as some of us did. Listen to this from the Tyranny notes: > > "There was something Copernican in the Cult's worldview, themselves > included. Where some bands attempted to rabble-rouse, BOC's concerns > were more scientific, each song an abstract tale rather than a personal, > emotionally wrenching narrative. If this detachment sometimes made the > band seem like characters in their own play, it allwed them to ride > their "Hot Rails to Hell" along the edge of the malebolge and escape > unscathed, singed but hardly consumed by the flames they'd unleashed > over the City." I think as long as Pearlman was around *someone* was thinking that hard about it, and I kind of get the idea he wouldn't have minded explaining at *any* opportunity... > > Maybe I'm just growing tolerant in my old age, but I find little to complain > > about with the new album. Great songs, great performances. If you don't > > like it, that's cool. I'm just glad that I love it! > > Well said. Perhaps I too am less demanding as I age (or, increase in > "old fartidude"...) I'm still not convinced there's any `great songs' on there, but I do play it quite a bit. In fact, since Clutch's _Pure Rock Fury_ has ended... Yours, Jon ObCD: Blue Oyster Cult - _Curse of the Hidden Mirror_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Sep 19 18:29:56 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:29:56 +0100 Subject: [OFF] Speechless Message-ID: from another mailing list: > I didn't discover this, just passing it on > > Open up Microsoft Word: > Type in NYC > then highlight it, and change the font size to 72 > then change the font to webdings ( and view what it says) > then change the font to Wingdings weird!! colm From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Wed Sep 19 19:58:57 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:58:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anthrax...do not panic...do not panic...do not panic... Message-ID: >Go dig out your copy of HW's "Sonic Attack" and loop the verse from the >title track "...do not panic...do not panic...". Make it your mantra... > >(ahhhh, there it is, the old stuffed gooney bird with his big red Federal >Express button that reads "Don't Panic!" onnit. Time for you to come out of >retirement! Up to the top of the monitor you go. That's better...) And let's not forget Douglas Adams' "Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy". Don't panic, indeed! Hmm. Actually, I should probably reread those. I definitely need a laugh, these days :-o Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From nycademon at HOME.COM Wed Sep 19 20:56:34 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:56:34 -0600 Subject: [OFF] Speechless In-Reply-To: <003901c1415a$9f399e20$62b71e3e@gypo> Message-ID: Very Strange. But it makes you wonder who discovered this weirdity, and how long they were looking for it. :-) Guido -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Colm McWilliams Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:30 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: [OFF] Speechless from another mailing list: > I didn't discover this, just passing it on > > Open up Microsoft Word: > Type in NYC > then highlight it, and change the font size to 72 > then change the font to webdings ( and view what it says) > then change the font to Wingdings weird!! colm From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Wed Sep 19 21:10:54 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:10:54 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anthrax...do not panic...do not panic...do not panic... In-Reply-To: <200109192358.TAA18881@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: I think Federal Express snagged the idea for the button from DA's books, who sadly passed away earlier this year... ;-( Ship > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Alex S. Garcia > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 7:59 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: Anthrax...do not panic...do not panic...do not > panic... > > > >Go dig out your copy of HW's "Sonic Attack" and loop the verse from the > >title track "...do not panic...do not panic...". Make it your mantra... > > > >(ahhhh, there it is, the old stuffed gooney bird with his big red Federal > >Express button that reads "Don't Panic!" onnit. Time for you to > come out of > >retirement! Up to the top of the monitor you go. That's better...) > > And let's not forget Douglas Adams' "Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy". > Don't panic, indeed! > > Hmm. Actually, I should probably reread those. I definitely need a laugh, > these days :-o > > > > Alex. > > --------------------------------------------------- > http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm > Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] > http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] > Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net > --------------------------------------------------- > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Sep 19 20:30:59 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:30:59 -0400 Subject: HW: NIK: OFF: Strange Daze schedule Message-ID: Just announced...looks like a great time! Y'all gonna make it? Hope to see you there! The speculation of who/what Nik will play with should be enough to create enthusiasm for this deal isn't it? Looks like this place is big enough to have two separate stage setups going simultaneously...that worked well with the tent thing last year I thought...cuts down on the change-overs at least! Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Very sad about the AP "Mars" master problems...I wonder who AP is nowadays. Is Orlando still the guitarist at least? FRIDAY, OCTOBER 26th - Doors open 6:00 pm 7:00 - 8:00 - Tavern - DRUMPLAY 8:00 - 9:00 - Ballroom - EINSTEIN'S SECRET ORCHESTRA 9:00 - 10:00 - Tavern - ALIEN PLANETSCAPES 10:00 - 11:00 - Ballroom - SPEAKER/CRANKER 11:00 - 12:00 - Tavern - WORLD OF TOMORROW 12:00 - 2:00 - Ballroom - NIK TURNER SATURDAY, OCTOBER 27th - Doors open 2:00 pm 3:00 - 4:00 - Tavern - HEAVY LIQUID 5:00 - 6:00 - Tavern - THE RICK RAY BAND 7:00 - 8:00 - Tavern - RED GIANT 8:00 - 9:00 - Ballroom - NUCLEON 9:00 - 10:00 - Tavern - JFK Jr. ROYAL AIRFORCE 10:00 - 11:00 - Ballroom - HARVEY BAINBRIDGE 11:00 - 12:00 - Tavern - QUARKSPACE 12:00 - 2:00 - Ballroom - MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Sep 19 23:34:34 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:34:34 EDT Subject: BOC - remasters Message-ID: In a message dated 9/19/2001 7:55:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > > Boorman the Chauffer - Smokin' Joe Bouchard track that really should > > have been on the album. > > well...it's very similar to 'hot rails...' so i can see why it was left off. excellent song, though!! bobm From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Thu Sep 20 01:44:27 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:44:27 +0200 Subject: Clear Channel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, >we have at least a few clear channel stations...they like to make music >`safe' for the >middle-of-the-road crowd.all the classic rock ones,same songs and same >artists no >matter which one you listen to.goes without saying no hawkwind,but not >even any >kinks unless its lola.apparently the only song they ever made. >anyway,that's why i don't >like them. >tim *sigh* At least you have other stations to choose from (I was really impressed with your radio stations when I was in Washington DC this summer). Here in Germany we _only_ have stations that play top40-stuff all day long. You rarely notice when you switch the channel... (c)IAO D+R From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Thu Sep 20 01:55:17 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:55:17 -0500 Subject: HW: drums on Electric Tepee Message-ID: No those are real drums with heavy reverb. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:18 PM Subject: HW: drums on Electric Tepee > Hello! > > How do you think: Are the drums on this album are drumcomputer or it is > Richard playing and they just made the sound artificial? > > Alice From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Sep 20 07:47:47 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:47:47 EDT Subject: BOC - remasters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 20 Sep 2001, at 0:28, Jon Jarrett wrote: > > Indeed they are. Whether you want to argue that they don't have the > > same finesse as the Bouchards or not, they are definitely great > > players. > > They give the band a harder sound than what they had in the 1980's > > - > > less subtle in times, but it definitely works well for them live. > Apples and oranges. Danny can hold his own against any bassist on the planet, but he doesn't sound anything like Joe. Bobby is a GREAT drummer. Catch him live sometime, and you won't believe your ears. The stuff he throws out is amazing, and he is so effortless in doing it. A consumate professional. My only criticism of Bobby is that his playing is a little slick sometimes. And I say this only because I compare him to Al. Al is a brilliant drummer too. I would say that Al and Bobby are equal in their drumming chops, but Al gets the nod for his unique 'ear' for the instrument. Al was able to throw in stuff completely off-the-wall and make it work perfectly. Bobby's playing is a touch more predictable. but don't take this as a knock on BR's playing. It's great, just different from what B?C fans came to expect from Al... > I think Danny could whip it up as much as Joe if he had the > space > but I think he has to be part of the sort of rhythm section that Bobby > can do his best in, which is as you say less subtle. But Danny's solos > remind you how many other intsruments he plays and you know it could > be different... Hmm...Sound like any other B?C bassist we know? But you're dead-on here. DM plays a bunch of instruments, including some wind instruments, right? He's a versatile player and a fine singer too. DM is a fine addition to the band... theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Sep 20 08:37:30 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:37:30 -0400 Subject: BOC - remasters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > In a message dated 9/19/2001 7:55:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > >>> Boorman the Chauffer - Smokin' Joe Bouchard track that really should >>> have been on the album. >> > well...it's very similar to 'hot rails...' so i can see why it was left off. > excellent song, though!! > bobm It's also similar to The Who's "Boris the Spider," not just in the title, but in the deep-voiced "Boorman the Chau--ffeur!" part. Brian NP> John Brown's Body "Among Them" -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio There is no Dana, only Zuul http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Thu Sep 20 09:25:43 2001 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:25:43 -0500 Subject: OFF:re: Speechless Message-ID: Disturbing indeed, but this is only the half of it: in MSWord type in: Q33 NYC then change font size to 72, then set font to wingding what is Q33 - http://www.islamicity.org/dialogue/Q33.HTM -- Doug Bates From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Thu Sep 20 12:58:11 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:58:11 -0400 Subject: OFF: Operation Armed Love Message-ID: I hate chain letters but, for once, I'll make an exception and start one by passing on this message from famous American Science-Fiction writer Norman Spinrad. Consider the words. Think about it. And pass it on if you think it can help. Alex. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > OPERATION ARMED LOVE >The following should be the American response. I call it operartion Armed >Love: > > 1)Take out all Taliban antiaircraft facilities, no sweat there aren't >many. > > 2)Use B-52s in a massive show of force--to carpet bomb empty real estate >to create landing zones. > > 3)Under heavy fighter escort, bring in C-17s loaded not with bombs, but >with food, for the Afghans, the majority of whom are starving while-- > > 4--Announcing than any attempt by the Taliban to interfere with operation >Armed Love will mean their utter annhilation. > >5. How long do you think the Taleban regime would last if this was done? >What country could possibly object? > > If this makes sense to you, pass it on. > Norman Spinrad > > --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 20 13:08:21 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:08:21 +0100 Subject: HW: drums on Electric Tepee In-Reply-To: <000f01c1415e$e1c50000$9404efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: At 3:00 +0400 20.09.2001, Alice wrote: >> I think it's both: cool Richard Chadwick live drumming _and_ good drumcomp >> programming. > >Yes, I think the same thing. On some tracks there is definitely computer. >But rocking ones are live drumming. Scott Heller (and me, I guess) once did an interview with Richard Chadwick where he spoke a bit about how he did the drumming live and in the studio (if I remember aright -- it was 5 or 6 years ago!). It used to be online somewhere, but I don't know if maybe Scott still has a copy of it himself? Cheers, Carl From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Sep 20 13:26:10 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:26:10 +0100 Subject: OFF:re: Speechless Message-ID: that's sick. Sick and twisted. Does that mean that we can blame everything on Microsoft... Sub-messages and all that? Layla. >>> Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU 09/20/01 02:25pm >>> Disturbing indeed, but this is only the half of it: in MSWord type in: Q33 NYC then change font size to 72, then set font to wingding what is Q33 - http://www.islamicity.org/dialogue/Q33.HTM -- Doug Bates From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Sep 20 12:37:42 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:37:42 -0400 Subject: HW: drums on Electric Tepee Message-ID: >At 3:00 +0400 20.09.2001, Alice wrote: >>> I think it's both: cool Richard Chadwick live drumming _and_ good drumcomp >>> programming. >> >>Yes, I think the same thing. On some tracks there is definitely computer. >>But rocking ones are live drumming. >From someone who generally despises robot drumming (esp. in 'rock' music) and campaigns regularly against it, I have to say that whatever RC used on tracks like "Garden Pests" really worked well with that sort of music. My first experience with live drumming MIDI-linked to computer enhancement was seeing the Moody Blues perform in about 1986-87, and whatever 'early' technology Graeme Edge was using then was rather pathetic. It was constantly distracting (I think the electronic and acoustic sounds might have had different echoing characteristics or something and so they seemed out-of-phase in a large concert hall) and never once was viewable as anything other than a 'crutch'. In the right hands though, and with better 'algorhythms' (sic), I can see how it might actually provide musicians with the ability for creativity rather than simplification. I think RC has done just that when he's used it. Grakkl (FAA) From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Thu Sep 20 14:22:47 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 14:22:47 -0400 Subject: OFF:re: Speechless Message-ID: Well, it's well known that Bill Gates wants to rule the world. What if he's been manipulating Bin Laden all along? Hmm? This is not a Science-Fiction mailing-list? Oh. Sorry. *coughs* Alex. ---------------------------------------------------------------- At 18:26 20/09/01 +0100, you wrote: >that's sick. > > Sick and twisted. > > Does that mean that we can blame everything on Microsoft... > > Sub-messages and all that? > > Layla. > > > >>>> Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU 09/20/01 02:25pm >>> >Disturbing indeed, but this is only the half of it: > >in MSWord type in: Q33 NYC >then change font size to 72, then set font to wingding > >what is Q33 - http://www.islamicity.org/dialogue/Q33.HTM > > >-- >Doug Bates > --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Sep 20 14:49:08 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:49:08 -0500 Subject: OFF: Radio stations with choice, was Clear Channel Message-ID: OK ... Here's a positive radio post! Anyone from all around the world can listen to the great college radio station we have here in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, US. WMSE - Radio Station of the Milwaukee School of Engineering http://www.wmse.org You can stream and/or download live and archived shows from the past 8 weeks in mp3 format! No top 40 here. Check out the schedule: http://www.wmse.org/schedule.php3 And, I recently discovered there are now CD players that will play CDs of mp3s. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-7141367.html Has anyone tried one of these or have any other player recommendations? Rock on! Karen aka "Bubbles" the Planet Prog webmaster, http://planetprog.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Sep 20 16:11:14 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:11:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: Operation Armed Love In-Reply-To: <200109201658.MAA00428@mailgate.spc.edu>; from mvdbase@YAHOO.COM on Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 12:58:11PM -0400 Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 12:58:11PM -0400, Alex S. Garcia wrote: > > 2)Use B-52s in a massive show of force--to carpet bomb empty real estate > >to create landing zones. This is the hard part. How to: (a) Make sure that the real estate is in fact empty -- people do have this tendency to "spread themselves out evenly ... like atoms in a model" as Jane Siberry put it. (a) Be able to prove it, in the face of contrary propaganda (lies of course, if they've done (a), but you know such propaganda will be spread anyway). Other than that, makes sense to me. Don't forget the medical supplies along with the food. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment to do what works in the long run, not by what makes us feel better in the short run. - Jean Chr?tien, Prime Minister of Canada From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Sep 20 16:16:39 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:16:39 -0400 Subject: Clear Channel In-Reply-To: ; from ma-paharper@IOPENER.NET on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:47:52PM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:47:52PM -0400, Tim wrote: > they like to make music `safe' [...] > not even any > kinks unless its lola.apparently the only song they ever made. They want things safe, and they play "Lola"?!? They must not actually listen to the songs on their playlist... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment to do what works in the long run, not by what makes us feel better in the short run. - Jean Chr?tien, Prime Minister of Canada From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Sep 20 16:27:56 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:27:56 -0400 Subject: Clear Channel Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:16:39 -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: >They want things safe, and they play "Lola"?!? They must not >actually listen to the songs on their playlist... ... don't forget that when it originally came out, the song was banned by the BBC ... not because of the subject matter, but because it mentions the brand name "Coca-Cola"! (Allegedly, Ray Davies had to fly back to London in the middle of an American tour to go back into the studio and sing the word "cherry", so it could be dubbed over the offending trademark.) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Thu Sep 20 16:59:12 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:59:12 -0400 Subject: MP3 mobile players. In-Reply-To: <3BAA3A24.FF61A425@execpc.com> Message-ID: Not only that, but there are car MP3 players and boom boxes that will play MP3's, too (the Radio Shack version is a rebadged Sony)... Haven't checked any of them out personally, but there is a nice write-up on the car MP3 players in this months' "Popular Science" magazine... Looks like there will be factory models available from Visteon, who supplies Ford & D-Chrysler, out soon. Sounds like the biggest issue with the car units is the method of navigating thru the folders, some are better and faster at it than the others. I also think that some of the cheaper units may be limited to the maximum number of mp3's on a CD. K00l t0yz out there... Ship Karen sez... > > And, I recently discovered there are now CD players that will play CDs > of mp3s. > > http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-7141367.html > > Has anyone tried one of these or have any other player recommendations? > > Rock on! > > Karen > aka "Bubbles" the Planet Prog webmaster, http://planetprog.com > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Sep 20 17:33:36 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:33:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? Message-ID: How worried are you that there's going to be a world war and we're all going to die? vote on a scale of one to ten... one being, "It doesn't bother me at all" and ten being "I've already quit my job and built the shelter" Layla.. mind rotting in panic in Preston, England.... From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Sep 20 17:36:21 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:36:21 EDT Subject: Clear Channel suggests 150 songs for stations to avoid (9/18/2001) Message-ID: In a message dated 9/18/01 8:29:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, coral at APORT.RU writes: > And Hawkwind Hassan I Sahba... I haven't posted my last two play-lists yet, but the Sat _before_ the attacks, I played "Assassins of Allah" (Ca. Brainstorm)... Chuck From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Sep 20 17:00:54 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:00:54 +0100 Subject: Clear Channel Message-ID: best thing anyone's said all night!!!!!!!!!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guido Vacano" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 10:31 PM Subject: Re: Clear Channel > Could we, just maybe, ditch this stupid bleepin' thread? > > Thanks, Guido > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Doug Pearson > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:02 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Clear Channel > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Sep 20 18:42:18 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:42:18 +0100 Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? Message-ID: minus 95 Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:33 PM Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? > How worried are you that there's going to be a world war and we're all going to die? > > vote on a scale of one to ten... one being, "It doesn't bother me at all" and ten being "I've already quit my job and built the shelter" > > > > > Layla.. mind rotting in panic in Preston, England.... From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 20 18:34:05 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:34:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 22:33 +0100 20.09.2001, Layla Thompson wrote: >How worried are you that there's going to be a world war >and we're all going to die? >vote on a scale of one to ten... one being, "It doesn't >bother me at all" and ten being "I've already quit my job >and built the shelter" One, I guess. I haven't really given it much thought, but with things the way they are right now, I don't think a World War in which we all die is very likely. Perhaps, having a massive background in studying history, I just see it as one more event (albeit a current one) over which I have no control. If I were a diplomat or something whose decisions would have a direct influence on the situation, you can bet I'd be worried. As it is, I'm rather more focused on all the stuff that my actions do have some influence on! (Like bolloxing my ISP for never holding a connection for more than a couple of minutes at a go -- makes FTPing a real pain!) Cheers, Carl From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 20 18:21:25 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:21:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: seeking source for Black Ingvars :) Message-ID: I just recently heard an MP3 of a most excellent heavy metal cover of "H?r kommer Pippi L?ngstrump" (the old Pippi Longstocking theme song) by a Swedish band called the Black Ingvars. They are (apparently) a Swedish metal band who play lots of Swedish kids' songs or nursery rhymes. I nearly pissed myself listening to the Pippi song, and *must* buy a copy of their album _Sjung och var glad_ from which it comes. Does anyone know a mail order source? Record Heaven don't seem to carry it, and last time I looked places like bol.se wouldn't ship orders outside of Sweden! Cheers, Carl From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Sep 20 19:31:55 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:31:55 EDT Subject: Clear Channel Message-ID: In a message dated 9/20/01 12:50:22 AM US Eastern Standard Time, denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE writes: > ). Here in > Germany we _only_ have stations that play top40-stuff all day long. You > rarely notice when you switch the channel... > > I say we start another massive airlift into Germany. "The Marshall Plan. Pt. 2." Massive loads of rock, metal and all kinds of boogie music. We must free them of the tyranny of Top 40. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Sep 20 19:48:24 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 07:48:24 +0800 Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? Message-ID: Layla Thompson wrote: > How worried are you that there's going to be a world war and we're all going to die? > > vote on a scale of one to ten... one being, "It doesn't bother me at all" and ten being "I've already quit my job and built the shelter" > Layla.. mind rotting in panic in Preston, England.... > Layla, stop worrying and go out and enjoy yourself. Play some Hawkwind - The War I Survived and Mutation Zone would be a good start...:-) I seriously doubt this will expand into a full world war. If we see the consequences of bombing innocent people so does the US Government. There is a lot of difference between Justice and Revenge. If the US seeks justice for the crime committed against it, then it will have world support. If it seeks revenge then they are going to ruffle a few feathers. The US Government will also know that for every action it takes, the terrorists will have a reprisal action. This means that every known terrorist base in the world is now a target. The US will strike at these and perhaps launch an offensive to destroy the Taliban in Afghanistan. You can bet the Afghani citizens will welcome this. Remember to, that it's usually regimes that call out "Holy War" against the Great Satan and these countries are usually ignored by Arab rulers in general. The war with Iraq is proof of that. Bill From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Sep 20 21:19:11 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:19:11 -0400 Subject: OFF:re: Speechless Message-ID: Not exactly new news, this references a 1992 essay on the subject ... http://www.snopes2.com/spoons/fracture/wingding.htm (hint: whenever you're told about something like this, or when you receive an Email virus warning or plea for assistance of a sick person or warning about a new law that's going to take away all your freedom, http://www.snopes2.com is ALWAYS the first place you should look.) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:26:10 +0100, Layla Thompson wrote: >that's sick. > > Sick and twisted. > > Does that mean that we can blame everything on Microsoft... > > Sub-messages and all that? > > Layla. > > > >>>> Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU 09/20/01 02:25pm >>> >Disturbing indeed, but this is only the half of it: > >in MSWord type in: Q33 NYC >then change font size to 72, then set font to wingding > >what is Q33 - Between questions 32 & 34? >http://www.islamicity.org/dialogue/Q33.HTM From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Sep 20 21:42:37 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:42:37 -0400 Subject: Clear Channel In-Reply-To: ; from JLoehr4299@AOL.COM on Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 07:31:55PM -0400 Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 07:31:55PM -0400, Joe Loehr wrote: > In a message dated 9/20/01 12:50:22 AM US Eastern Standard Time, > denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE writes: > > > > ). Here in > > Germany we _only_ have stations that play top40-stuff all day long. You > > rarely notice when you switch the channel... > > > > > > I say we start another massive airlift into Germany. "The Marshall Plan. Pt. > 2." > > Massive loads of rock, metal and all kinds of boogie music. We must free them > of the tyranny of Top 40. There must be decent stations in Poland and the Czech Republic -- it seems too soon for everything to have gotten conglomerated. All they need to do is beef up their power a bit. Just call it Radio Free (Western) Europe. Speaking of which, remember that RFE TV ad from the 60s? Guy striding purposefully through the streets (maybe you only see his legs); voiceover talking about RFE; the guy goes through a door; you see him sit down in a radio broadcast booth; he talks into the mic in some Eastern-European(?) language, ending with "On Broadvay [sic]" as the song starts up. Does anyone know where one might get a copy of that? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment to do what works in the long run, not by what makes us feel better in the short run. - Jean Chr?tien, Prime Minister of Canada From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Sep 20 19:09:05 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:09:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? Message-ID: war = 7 world war = 3 all gonna die = 1 tim Layla Thompson wrote: > > How worried are you that there's going to be a world war and we're all going to > die? > > vote on a scale of one to ten... one being, "It doesn't bother me at all" and > ten being "I've already quit my job and built the shelter" > > > > > Layla.. mind rotting in panic in Preston, England.... From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Thu Sep 20 22:15:27 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:15:27 -0400 Subject: answer me this....?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Less than 1. Get over it and get on with your life, or else the terrorists can claim YOU as a victory. Don't let them! Where is that British "stiff upper lip"? C'mon, let's see it... Ship > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Layla Thompson > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:34 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? > > > How worried are you that there's going to be a world war and > we're all going to die? > > vote on a scale of one to ten... one being, "It doesn't bother > me at all" and ten being "I've already quit my job and built the shelter" > > > > > Layla.. mind rotting in panic in Preston, England.... > From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Sep 20 22:23:25 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:23:25 -0500 Subject: OFF: seeking source for Black Ingvars :) Message-ID: I'd love a copy of this too. If any list group can track it down, it's ours. Carl - Is there a web link to the mp3 file you listened to? Karen Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > I just recently heard an MP3 of a most excellent heavy metal cover of > "H?r kommer Pippi L?ngstrump" (the old Pippi Longstocking theme song) > by a Swedish band called the Black Ingvars. They are (apparently) a > Swedish metal band who play lots of Swedish kids' songs or nursery > rhymes. > > I nearly pissed myself listening to the Pippi song, and *must* buy a > copy of their album _Sjung och var glad_ from which it comes. Does > anyone know a mail order source? Record Heaven don't seem to carry > it, and last time I looked places like bol.se wouldn't ship orders > outside of Sweden! > > Cheers, > Carl -- "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Gandhi From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Sep 20 23:06:59 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:06:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dancing Robot Musical Alarm Clock Message-ID: In honor of Marc Power and Born to Go ... Robots on the Rise ... ;) http://www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/productview.jhtml?sku=FE051&tcid=23&tlid=h3&source=15732&_requestid=341981 From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Fri Sep 21 00:34:20 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 00:34:20 -0400 Subject: OFF: Radio stations with choice, was Clear Channel Message-ID: From: "Karen Kusic" > And, I recently discovered there are now CD players that will play CDs > of mp3s. > > http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-7141367.html > > Has anyone tried one of these or have any other player recommendations? I have a Phillips Expanium. It's played everything I've thrown at it so far. I won't buy a SonicBlue (or any other player) which supports DRM (Digital Rights Management). Jerry From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Sep 21 02:02:48 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 06:02:48 +0000 Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Sep 21 02:07:05 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 06:07:05 +0000 Subject: OFF:re: Speechless Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Sep 21 04:31:25 2001 From: markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM (mark cotton) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 08:31:25 +0000 Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? Message-ID: Layla, Don't worry too much, my personal remedy would be the following: i) Play "Classical Suite" by Prokofiev (Would cheer up a corpse!) ii) Read some early Tom Sharpe (ie The Throwback) iii) Watch some "Trigger Happy TV" iv) Go find a beach and listen to the waves breaking on the shore v) A pint or two from Sharps Brewery in Cornwall to be slowly taken. Hope this helps, and remember, The Hawks are flying soon! Cheers, Mark C. >From: Layla Thompson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? >Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:33:36 +0100 > >How worried are you that there's going to be a world war and we're all >going to die? > > vote on a scale of one to ten... one being, "It doesn't bother me at >all" and ten being "I've already quit my job and built the shelter" > > > > > Layla.. mind rotting in panic in Preston, England.... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Sep 21 05:01:28 2001 From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juba N) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:01:28 +0000 Subject: OFF: seeking source for Black Ingvars :) Message-ID: Hi Carl! I can try to track it down for you. I know they have done some 3 to 4 different CD?s. Cheers, Juba >From: Carl Edlund Anderson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: OFF: seeking source for Black Ingvars :) >Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:21:25 +0100 > >I just recently heard an MP3 of a most excellent heavy metal cover of >"H?r kommer Pippi L?ngstrump" (the old Pippi Longstocking theme song) >by a Swedish band called the Black Ingvars. They are (apparently) a >Swedish metal band who play lots of Swedish kids' songs or nursery >rhymes. > >I nearly pissed myself listening to the Pippi song, and *must* buy a >copy of their album _Sjung och var glad_ from which it comes. Does >anyone know a mail order source? Record Heaven don't seem to carry >it, and last time I looked places like bol.se wouldn't ship orders >outside of Sweden! > >Cheers, >Carl _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From christmu at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 21 07:18:01 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:18:01 +0200 Subject: OFF/HW: Pressurehed - Sudden Vertigo CDR request Message-ID: To anyone who owns this CD and a burner: my copy of this CD is badly damaged and needs replacement... Would anyone be willing to burn me a CDR copy for two blank CDR's? I have the actual CD cover and everything, I just need to replace the damaged disc. Thanks to anyone who can help me out, reply to me at christmu at eunet.no Chr. ObCD: TSOL - Disappear (actually, I've just recently ordered this CD, but from MP3's I've heard its a definite classic... a glorious return to the raw, anarchic darkwave punk of their early days) --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century From christmu at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 21 07:36:38 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:36:38 +0200 Subject: HW: reviews of Dark Sun & Nik Turner and Alan Davey recent CD's in print Message-ID: Hi all, I am currently trading off some copies of the latest issue of Norwegian anarchist/counterculture/UG paper Gateavisa (possibly the oldest European answer to UK's classic 70's UG publications International Times or Frendz, Gateavisa was started in 1969 and literally means "The Street Paper") in which I've included reviews of these recent CD's and 7"'s: Dark Sun & Nik Turner - "Ice Ritual" Voivod - "Voivod Lives" Turbonegro - V.A. : "Alpha Motherfuckers - A Tribute To Turbonegro" Alan "The Elf" Davey - "Chaos Delight" JFK, jr. Royal Airforce - "JFK, jr. Royal Airforce" F/i - "Five Crowns of The Saxon King/From Poppy With Love" 7' The Mooseheart Faith Stellar Groove Band - "March of The Mind Parasites" 7' I am mostly interested in quality live Hawkwind material (CDR's or tapes) or any memorabilia (stickers, papers, flyers etc.) related to or containing Hawkwind material or graphics. The paper itself and reviews included are in Norwegian, but can easily be read by Swedes or Danes as well! I will also include a copy of the 1 pg. comic/color cover "Do & Co i 'Midflight Express'" which ran in Gateavisa's "Psykose" comics anthology some years ago, in which there are minor references to Hawkwind, Blue Oyster Cult, Gong and Amon Duul. Reply to christmu at eunet.no Chr. ObCD: Coil - Horse Rotovator --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Sep 21 07:40:54 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 07:40:54 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-lists 9/8 & 9/15 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck NOTE: I also recommend you stay tuned for Mizzen's program "Audio Alchemy", which airs every Saturday evening after mine, from 8-11pm PST...if you dare... 9/8 1.Lithium X-mas-- "Boston Strong Girl" (Helldorado; Direct Hit Records) 2.Helios Creed-- "Too Bad" (On Tour 1999; Staticwhitesound Records) 3.Chrome-- "Beacons to the Eye" (Chrome Box; Cleopatra Records) 4.Farflung-- "Breach of I" (Myth of Solid Ground CD-R) 5.U.F.O.-- "Boogie" (Space Metal; Nova Records) 6.Faust-- "No Harm" (So Far; Collector's Choice Music) 7.Vas Deferens Organization-- "Hushed Plateau of Celid Elves/Snappy Smarm" (More Pelvis Wick for the Baloney Boners; Tekito Records) 8.Pressurehed-- "Les Signes D'affection Carnivores" (Infadrone; Cleopatra) 9.Melvins-- "Disinvite/Snake Appeal" (ST'd; C/Z Records) 10.Nik Turner-- "The Right Stuff" (Transglobal Friends/Relations; Transparency) 11.The Orb-- "O.o.b.e." (UFOrb; Island Records) 12.Bondage Fruit-- "Storm Bird Storm Dreamer" (IV; Musea/Gazul Records) 13.Molloy-- "St. Monica" (Naif; Stick it to the Man Records) 14.Vocokesh-- "Number 29" (Ispepnaibara; Lexicon Devil Records) 15.Mushroom-- "Foxy Music" (Compared to What EP; Innerspace Records) 16.Farflung-- "Those Clouds are Solid" (Myth of Solid Ground) 17.Robert Calvert and the Maximum Effect-- "Work Song" (3/11/86 CD-R) 18.Steven Jesse Bernstein-- ? (ST'd; ?) 19.H. Budd/B. Eno/D. Lanois-- "A Stream w/Bright Fish" (The Pearl; EG Editions) 20.Cul de Sac-- "Father Silence" (Crashes to Light...; Thirsty Ear Records) 21.Brainticket-- "Watchin' You" (Psychonaut; Bellaphone Records) 22.Residents-- "Boots/Numb Erone/Guylum Bardot/Breath and Length (Meet the Residents; Ralph Records) 23.Frank Zappa-- "Drowning Witch" (Ship Arriving to Late to Save a Drowning Witch; Rykodisc) 24.Krom Lek-- "Atom Splicer" (Inspirational Floatation Compilation (Stone Premonition Records) 25.Hawkwind-- "Assassins of Allah" (California Brainstorm; ILOKI Records ) 26.Anubian Lights-- "Opa-Loka 2000" (Live w/Nik Turner; Strange Trips Records) 9/15 1.Steve Hillage-- "Solar Musick Suite" (Fish Rising; Virgin Records) 2.Simon House-- title-track (Yassasim; EBS/Griffin Records) 3.Escapade--"Warningless" (Flourescent Tunnelvision comp; Submergence Records) 4.Farflung-- "When I Awoke to Sleep No More" (Myth of Solid Ground) 5.Lithium X-mas-- "Powerdol" (Helldorado; Direct Hit Records) 6.Vas Deferens Organization-- "Hors D'oeuvres" (Drug Bubbles; Tekito Records) 7.Krom Lek-- "Stop Starting/Prevolution" (A Breath of Fresh Air; Stone Premonitions) 8.Census of Hallucinations-- "Carry an Attractive Crystal Door Knob Around w/You" (Stone Premonitions) 9.Thumbtack Smoothie-- "Rooftop Dreamrunning" (Electrickitchentableland; Manic Obsessive Records) 10.Pressurehed-- "Dark Runs Deeper" (Infadrone; Cleopatra) 11.Hawkwind-- "Hurry on Sundown" (Mighty HW Classics; Flicknife/Griffin Records) 12.Hawkwind-- "Ghost Dance" (Undisclosed Files; Griffin Records) 13.Brainticket-- "To Another Universe" (Celestial Ocean; Cleopatra) 14.F/i-- title-track (Space Mantra; Lexicon Devil Records) 15.Kool Keith-- "Rockets on the Battlefield" (Black Elvis/Lost in Space; Columbia) 16.Deltron 30 30-- "Upgrade" (The Instrumentals) 17.Thumbtack Smoothie-- "Now Since Then" (Electrickitchentableland) 18.Tribe of Cro-- "Ritual Meditation" (Potlach; Mushroom Runner Records) 19.DJ Cam-- "Lost Kingdom" (Mad Blunted Jazz; Shadow Records) 20.ORB-- "Valley" (Live '93; Island) 21.Hawkwind-- "Flight to Maputo" (Out and Intake; Flicknife/Griffin Records) 22.Kraig Grady/Brad Laner-- "Wedding Song" (Island of Anaphoria; Transparency) 23.DJ Krush/Toshinori Kondo-- "Tobira-1" (Ki-Oku; Instinct Records) 24.DJ Spooky vs. Scanner-- "Dialogic" (The Quick and the Dead; Sulpher Records) 25.Gong-- "IAO Chant and Master Builder" (Est Mort; Tapioca Records) 26.Knights of the Occasional Table-- "Elephants and Castles" (Les Elephants du Paradis; Middle Earth Records) thanks to Tribal Guy for his input/collaboration on second half of 9/15 set, Chuck From christmu at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 21 09:48:21 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:48:21 +0200 Subject: OFF: "Raspberries" hardcover comic solicitation Message-ID: Spoiler warning: Being a starving artist isn't easy... so, fellow BOC-L'ers, I now have several copies of the recently published book "Raspberries" which I have worked on as an inker for sale to any interested parties. Comics distributors and sellers (Jon Browne... wake up!) are welcome to buy in bulk quantities at discount prices. Thanks for your undivided attention, live long and smoke plenty of it, fellow Star Rats and Oysterheads! Hails, This 103 page hardcover Graphic Novel, "Raspberries", described by the author as a "satire-comedy", an "absurd comic opera" and "political burlesque", was originally a live action movie screenplay, converted to comics form by the artists, and recently published by Emancipation Press in Waterbury, CT, USA. Written by Green Party activist Dave F. Falvey, with pencils by Steve Goupil (Malibu Comics, Heavy Metal) and acclaimed caricaturist Chad Crowe (San Francisco Guardian, The LA Weekly) with inks by Christian Mumford (Boneyard Press, Psykose, Fidus, Norsk Mad, Pyton, Forresten), it is "The inside story of America's elite and the 'ultra black files' of the CIA as seen and lived by Napoleon Bonaparte", starring an elite cast of characters based on Danny DeVito, Rick Moranis, Rob Carrey, Nicole Kidman, Susan Anton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Pamela Anderson, Margaret Dumont, Don Knotts, Alfred Hitchcock and lead villain Saddam Hussein, it also has a full color cover based on The Beatles' famous "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" 1967 album cover. A feast for the mind as well as the eyes, the book contains many literary and philosophical references, and is thus suitable for readers of all ages, and is of special interest to students and practitioners of US law. Perhaps, at its core, it owes more to Russ Meyer's classic action/topless/comedy flicks or Kurt Vonnegut's satirical novels than anything else, it is a cross-genre, action filled and appealing romp through the underbelly of modern American politics. Make cheques, concealed cash or post International Money Orders for kr. 200 NOK, ?20 UK Sterling or $30 USD, prices including postage, payable to: Christian Mumford Bankveien 10 1383 Asker Norway Thanks for Your attention. --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Sep 21 11:54:24 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:54:24 EDT Subject: HW: reviews of Dark Sun & Nik Turner and Alan Davey recent CD's in print In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010921131804.00948cf0@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: On 21 Sep 2001, at 13:36, christmu at eunet.no wrote: > Hi all, I've included reviews of > these recent CD's and 7"'s: > > Dark Sun & Nik Turner - "Ice Ritual" > Voivod - "Voivod Lives" Yo, what's this one by Voivod? Is your review available online? If not, could you post it, either here or send it to me private mail? Do you have a review archive, as such? I'd like to read it... tj From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 21 07:37:43 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 12:37:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? In-Reply-To: Layla Thompson's message of Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:33:36 +0100 Message-ID: Layla Thompson writes: > How worried are you that there's going to be a world war and we're all > going to die? > vote on a scale of one to ten... one being, "It doesn't bother me at > all" and ten being "I've already quit my job and built the shelter" Three-and-a-quarter: I was expecting the Wall Street Crash and was already in Treasuries? Mike "Save the Surplus!" Holmes From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 21 07:35:29 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 12:35:29 +0100 Subject: OFF: Operation Armed Love In-Reply-To: Eric Siegerman's message of Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:11:14 -0400 Message-ID: Eric Siegerman writes: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 12:58:11PM -0400, Alex S. Garcia wrote: > > > 2)Use B-52s in a massive show of force--to carpet bomb empty real estate > > >to create landing zones. > > This is the hard part. How to: > (a) Make sure that the real estate is in fact empty -- people > do have this tendency to "spread themselves out evenly ... > like atoms in a model" as Jane Siberry put it. > > (a) Be able to prove it, in the face of contrary propaganda > (lies of course, if they've done (a), but you know such > propaganda will be spread anyway). > Drop copies of The Satanic Verses on them. That's what they're really afraid of... FoFP From joe.e at TELIA.COM Fri Sep 21 12:46:06 2001 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:46:06 +0200 Subject: OFF: seeking source for Black Ingvars :) Message-ID: At 23:21 2001-09-20 +0100, you wrote: >I just recently heard an MP3 of a most excellent heavy metal cover of >"H?r kommer Pippi L?ngstrump" (the old Pippi Longstocking theme song) >by a Swedish band called the Black Ingvars. They are (apparently) a >Swedish metal band who play lots of Swedish kids' songs or nursery >rhymes. > >I nearly pissed myself listening to the Pippi song, and *must* buy a >copy of their album _Sjung och var glad_ from which it comes. Does >anyone know a mail order source? Record Heaven don't seem to carry >it, and last time I looked places like bol.se wouldn't ship orders >outside of Sweden! > >Cheers, >Carl Holy shit, I actually has a track from the said CD on the boc-l swap tape project '99. It was "Trollmors Vaggvisa", music is a heavy metal version of Edward Grieg's "In the Hall of the Mountain King" - while lyrics is a kid's lullaby. Oh-aye-aye-aye-aye-buff. Buff. Black Ingvars is named originally from a combination of "Black Sabbath" and "Sven-Ingvars", where the latter orchestra are quite, eh, different in music style to the first. The "Sjung och var Glad" (Sing and Be Happy) CD has saved many hours in cars during vacation trips for those old farts that has turned into parents here. The kids have their lyrics and rhymes and fun - while you have the fuzz guitars with well known heavy metal hits. All in the same package! You won't believe what those guy's can combine - i.e "Fr?mling" is one well known tune from the Eurovision song contest for some ten fifteen years ago. Sing it to the music of "Stairway to Heaven" and you know what I mean. Carl will find not less than four Astrid Lindgren Anthems on this one. from mail order http://www.ginza.se (currency is local Donald Duck-money) Black-Ingvars Earcandy five 1995 CD 29 kr Black-Ingvars Heaven metal 1999 CD 39 kr Black-Ingvars Funny funny (2) CDS 5 kr Black-Ingvars Sjung och var glad 1997 CD 79 kr Black-Ingvars Very best of dansbandsh?rdrock CD 99 kr Black-Ingvars Baby one more time (3) CDS 10 kr Black-Ingvars Kids superhits 2000 CD 49 kr Black-Ingvars Earcandy six 1995 CD 49 kr Black-Ingvars Schlager metal 1998 CD 39 kr If Juba (hi!) will fail on this one, I'll get it for you. This is culture. peace and levitation, .joe From christmu at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 21 13:02:32 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:02:32 +0200 Subject: OFF: the new TSOL and Gwar CD's, and of course The Legendary Pink Dots! Message-ID: Hails, Star Rats and Oysterheads, What are your opinions, if any, on the new TSOL CD, "Disappear"? I just recently ordered this CD, based on the brief soundclips at www.truesoundsofliberty.com . Already owning the classic "Dance With Me", which is excellent, driven anarchist darkwave punkrock, I understand they went through a somewhat undesirable heavy metal period in the late 80's. I suppose the releleased "Beneath The Shadows" CD is also worth getting... I definetly do recommend this band to anyone into The Damned and/or Misfits/Samhain/Danzig though... or the probably long forgotten Jim Jones & The Kool-Ade Kids, who were like a gothic Dead Kennedys. Otherwise, another classic US 80's band, the brutal, funny and acid-fuelled hardcore and heavy metal pioneers Gwar, seem to have undergone some violent brainsurgery for their new album, "Violence Has Arrived", check www.gwar.net for more lurid details and a mindblowing cover illustration. I'm not a huge fan of theirs, and even though their first album ("Hell-O!") is a fucking hardcore punk classic. I sold my other latter day Gwar CD's some years ago during economic crisis with about 700 other CD's, their stuff having become abit too tired and strained, satirical and political heavy metal. They look like they have returned to form though... In fact, the first time I had sex and fell in love was to Gwar's "Phallus In Wonderland" video, and she was a beautiful, stoned, redheaded go-go dancer with a Danzig logo tattooed over her ass... we moved in together a month later, until she split the very same summer with a bunch of bikers. Anyway, Gwar would always hang out at comics conventions I'd go to after we split, and I'd think to myself "if only they'd known...". The funny thing is, after we parted, I found out via her twin sister, also a dancer, that we shared a fiendish habit for cocaine during a brief period, more a party thing on my end really, but I hope to hell she was as lovesick as I was... Damn, just stick to good ole fashioned acid, kids, yes, LSD is indeed a healthy and nutritious drug... and THE drug of choice amongst hippies! So in fact, when I saw The Legendary Pink Dots play Oslo in 1998, I thought to myself "my lovely old heavy metal babe Dorothea would like this, if only she were here with me and very stoned...", just the kaleidoscope of lights brought to mind Hawkwind's massive lightshow at the Limelight, NYC 1995... though Hawkwind had go-go dancers in suspended cages, something Edward Ka-Spel ought to consider for future LPD shows... though maybe not including fire eaters onstage, though! Yeah, The Legendary Pink Dots are indeed fucking excellent undead acidrock for living deadheads... heh, nowadays I just smoke alot of sticky hash and blow the rest of my money on that delicious yellow street speed, yum-yum...! Chr. ObCD: Fear - Fear --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Sep 21 12:25:04 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 12:25:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? Message-ID: Bill noted... >I seriously doubt this will expand into a full world war. If we see the >consequences of bombing innocent people so does the US Government. There is >a lot of difference between Justice and Revenge. If the US seeks justice for >the crime committed against it, then it will have world support. If it seeks >revenge then they are going to ruffle a few feathers. >The US Government will also know that for every action it takes, the >terrorists will have a reprisal action. This means that every known >terrorist base in the world is now a target. With the noted exception of western North Carolina. Seriously, if G.W. were held to that standard of not focussing solely on the terrorism emanating from the Muslim or Arab world as he claims, shouldn't he be sending cruise missiles into the hills where known terrorist Eric Rudolph (anybody remember Atlanta?) has been hiding for several years? Hard for me to imagine that he survives entirely on his own without any assistance, so of course those harboring him are just as guilty. And does anyone think that the fact the FBI can't 'smoke out' a top 10 'most wanted' fugitive from their own soil doesn't bode well for doing the same in other parts of the world? By the way, how's that drug war going in Colombia? Still looking for any evidence for optimism based on history....Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Sorry to be complicit in off-topic threads...somebody post something about music please. :) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Sep 21 13:30:12 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:30:12 -0400 Subject: HW: NIK: OFF: Strange Daze schedule Message-ID: Hey...Jim says the following... I'm sorry. I seemed to have zoned and left Willy Mac out of the line up. I revised Saturday slightly for the first 4 bands. Please note the changes. Thanks. Jim FRIDAY, OCTOBER 26th - Doors open 6:00 pm 7:00 - 8:00 - Tavern - DRUMPLAY 8:00 - 9:00 - Ballroom - EINSTEIN'S SECRET ORCHESTRA 9:00 - 10:00 - Tavern - ALIEN PLANETSCAPES 10:00 - 11:00 - Ballroom - SPEAKER/CRANKER 11:00 - 12:00 - Tavern - WORLD OF TOMORROW 12:00 - 2:00 - Ballroom - NIK TURNER SATURDAY, OCTOBER 27th - Doors open 2:00 pm 2:30 - 3:30 - Tavern - WILLY MAC 4:00 - 5:00 - Tavern - HEAVY LIQUID 5:30 - 6:30 - Tavern - THE RICK RAY BAND 7:00 - 8:00 - Tavern - RED GIANT 8:00 - 9:00 - Ballroom - NUCLEON 9:00 - 10:00 - Tavern - JFK Jr. ROYAL AIRFORCE 10:00 - 11:00 - Ballroom - HARVEY BAINBRIDGE 11:00 - 12:00 - Tavern - QUARKSPACE 12:00 - 2:00 - Ballroom - MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Sep 21 15:00:17 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:00:17 -0400 Subject: HW: Clear Channel Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:42:37 -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: >There must be decent stations in Poland and the Czech Republic -- >it seems too soon for everything to have gotten conglomerated. >All they need to do is beef up their power a bit. Just call it >Radio Free (Western) Europe. > >Speaking of which, remember that RFE TV ad from the 60s? ... ... and to bring it back on-topic, I'll mention that my German copy (shield sleeve, of course) of 'Warrior On The Edge Of Time' and a couple singles ("Kings of Speed" and "You'd Better Believe It") came from the RFE library ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Sep 21 18:43:26 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:43:26 -0400 Subject: ADMIN: orbs Message-ID: Ben.... The orbs list is now denying me access to post (phooey) and the orbs website is offline and our emails into postmaster at orbs.org are bouncing. I'm not sure if orbs is posting a list these days, but if they are, and you happen to know why uchicago.edu (128.135.*.*) is offending could you please let me know? Thanks! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Sep 21 18:47:52 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:47:52 -0400 Subject: OFF: discussion of the cornelius books Message-ID: Hi there folks, For any listers in the Chicagoland area: I'm leading a book discussion on the 4 books in the (first) Cornelius Chronicles (newly republished as the Cornelius Quartet), by Michael Moorcock, (aka: The Final Programme A Cure for Cancer The English Assasin The Condition of Muzak ) on October 10th, at 7pm on the University of Chicago campus in Ida Noyes Hall, rooms 216/217. (map available at: http://www.uchicago.edu/docs/maps/eastquad/idanoyes.html) Any and all are welcome. Thanks! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Sep 21 20:04:15 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:04:15 -0400 Subject: HW: airfare for the november shows Message-ID: Hi there folks, unsurprisingly, airfare right now is rather cheap. travelocity.com has a number of fares for just under $300 (us). (Taxes are, unfortunately, extra.) just a public service. Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Sep 21 20:24:59 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:24:59 -0400 Subject: ADMIN: orbs Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:43:26 -0400, Arin Komins wrote: >The orbs list is now denying me access to post (phooey) Welcome to the club! >I'm not sure if orbs is posting a list these days, but if they are, >and you happen to know why uchicago.edu (128.135.*.*) is offending >could you please let me know? I believe that Keith Henderson has been having the same problem from osu.edu. From what I've heard, you don't have to be a source of spam to get on the orbs list, and that complaining to them about it is a good way to ensure that you *stay* on their list. I've wound up losing touch with a few people because of this problem :^(. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Sep 24 04:43:27 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 09:43:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? Message-ID: Never heard of that song...... BUT.. The Throwback IS a good book (rather enjoyed Ancestral Vices too) Trigger Happy TV is one of my FAVE programmes.. BUT I don't have a telly anymore, or a video, and my PS one is sitting looking sad and lonely under the little table the telly USED to sit on.... (which is now the home for Michael B's two Gerbils....) Was a bit ill this past weekend.. and DID listen to lotsa Hawky music.. and drank a fair amount (was off work too!!) and so feel better, and trying NOT to worry about stuff..... You lot made me feel better too... thanks for that! I'll be good now.. HONEST.. and chill!!! :p And stop sending none hawkwind related posts so that I don't irritate anyone! THANK YOU!! Layla. >>> markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM 09/21/01 09:31am >>> Layla, Don't worry too much, my personal remedy would be the following: i) Play "Classical Suite" by Prokofiev (Would cheer up a corpse!) ii) Read some early Tom Sharpe (ie The Throwback) iii) Watch some "Trigger Happy TV" iv) Go find a beach and listen to the waves breaking on the shore v) A pint or two from Sharps Brewery in Cornwall to be slowly taken. Hope this helps, and remember, The Hawks are flying soon! Cheers, Mark C. >From: Layla Thompson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: OFF: answer me this....?? >Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 22:33:36 +0100 > >How worried are you that there's going to be a world war and we're all >going to die? > > vote on a scale of one to ten... one being, "It doesn't bother me at >all" and ten being "I've already quit my job and built the shelter" > > > > > Layla.. mind rotting in panic in Preston, England.... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK Mon Sep 24 04:52:46 2001 From: robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK (Stuckey, Robert) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 09:52:46 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 19 Sep 2001 to 20 Sep 2001 (#2001-356) Message-ID: > >Rather than worrying about nations releasing anthrax on the unsuspecting >flock, shouldn't responsible DJs and socially aware people generally be >releasing Hawkwind on their neighbours, friends and loved ones in an effort >to raise the level of the vibrations (sic) of the planet? > >f rat > What's wrong with Anthrax?....I quite liked 'Among the Living'!! While I agree they may not represent the best in thrash metal, I do not believe they would make an effective weapon of mass destruction. cheers - Rob From christmu at EUNET.NO Mon Sep 24 05:16:31 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:16:31 +0200 Subject: OFF: LOVE Message-ID: Hails, The recent in New York City; what a spectacular and tragic event... Terror and airborne despair unheard of since the Challenger exploded over Florida killing a bunch of Astronauts and all those formation F-16's crashed midair over Germany several years back... But damn, don't you ever wonder if Adolf Hitler ever was happy on his birthday... he must have been, having gassed so many fucking jews... and did he ever have sex with his Eva in that bunker before those B52's blitzed Berlin in '45...? And lets not forget the Viet-Nam war, and the magnificent Angkor Wat, and all those skulls piled up in temples, all those MIA's, motherfucker, and all those the undead survivors sent home, and then having a bunch of fat cats make a bunch of big budget movies just to piss 'em off... I'm cruising on some great speed, yes, methamphetamines, kids, yum yum, that fuming Yellow Roxy straight off the street, half a gram, goddamn, real drugs don't ever kill, remember I told you that... BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T EVER DIE MOTHERFUCKER! Ahem. Just feeling very happy tonight. Love, Chr. ObBand: Hawkwind --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. From christmu at EUNET.NO Mon Sep 24 05:34:11 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:34:11 +0200 Subject: HW/NIK: Whats this? Message-ID: Saw this on CDNOW: Does anyone have any details on tis Turner release? How is the sound? Any good? Nik Turner - Conscience of Hawkwind: Live Deeply Vale Free 78 Chr. --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. From christmu at EUNET.NO Mon Sep 24 06:30:34 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:30:34 +0200 Subject: OFF: Poco Loco Tonite Message-ID: I must apologize to any offended parties on my previous off-topic post as it was sent automatically from my outbox without my approval as it was an old email containing references to terrorism, war, hate and drugs. There's always a time and place for such things, but on a fine monday morning like this, why ruin anyone else's nice day with such bile. Chr. --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. From CWarburton at OAG.COM Mon Sep 24 07:16:20 2001 From: CWarburton at OAG.COM (ChrisW Work) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:16:20 +0100 Subject: off:nimda worm Message-ID: Folx, I don't want to be alarmist about this, but my home desktop machine may have been smitten by the above beastie. Be assured that I have not personally sent out ANY eMails with attachmentsto this list or any of its members. Therefore if (like "<>") you have received anything of this nature, DO NOT open it. This is a sneaky little f*cker - I use Zone Alarm & Command A-V, but it still may have got through. There is a pretty comprehensive explanation of what it does at this url http://www.datafellows.com/v-descs/nimda.shtml Mails from this machine should be clean....FLW * Chris Warburton/Senior Database Administrator * "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Ambrose Bierce From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Sep 24 07:29:34 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:29:34 +0100 Subject: Off Re: Clear Channel Message-ID: Thing with freedom is - if we don't keep on questioning it, we probably wouldn't even know it was there. f rat Dan Witt wrote: > > I can't resist any longer. > > They are a corporation that tries to make money, isn't that nasty. Also > they had the gall to release a list of songs that their DJs might want to > think twice about playing until people's emotions calm down. They didn't > want to offend people, probably motivated by greed, the dirty bums. > > I know I'd appreciate "Burnin' for you" if my mom was under that pile of > smoldering rubble, but I'm a nut. > > People get over it, your favorite classic rock should be back in full force > real soon. Nobody is trying to ban it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Layla Thompson" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:30 PM > Subject: Re: Clear Channel > > > Forgive my lack of knowledge here........ > > > > But....... > > > > Could someone PLEASE tell me what it is that these Clear Channel people > have done to make you lot hate them so???? > > From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Sep 24 07:32:32 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:32:32 +0100 Subject: Clear Channel Message-ID: Tim wrote: > > we have at least a few clear channel stations...they like to make music `safe' for the > middle-of-the-road crowd.all the classic rock ones,same songs and same artists no > matter which one you listen to.goes without saying no hawkwind,but not even any > kinks unless its lola.apparently the only song they ever made. anyway,that's why i don't > like them. > tim What is the point of "safe" music? Seriously - if an artist writes music which is safe, they are not even pushing musical barriers, never mind any other sort. I always thought music should fire the blood or minds of people listening and playing, hopefully creating a way of getting out everyone's frustrations through singing/playing/listening/grooving. Therefore: music which sounds "dangerous" and exposes the dangerous feelings and emotions within us, without encouraging them to be perpetrated willy nilly on others, but instead allowing us to explore and release them safely is actually more safe for the world at large than pop and M.O.R. opium for the people. Cheers peeps f. rat From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Sep 24 07:33:44 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:33:44 +0100 Subject: Clear Channel Message-ID: Yes, but everyone has got so used to it, it means nothing any more. Further it acts as a sop to those who say they are too anodine: "Yeah but we played Lola 37 times last week"! "variety is the chicken vindaloo of life, with four pints of lager and a popadom pal" f. rat Eric Siegerman wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:47:52PM -0400, Tim wrote: > > they like to make music `safe' [...] > > not even any > > kinks unless its lola.apparently the only song they ever made. > > They want things safe, and they play "Lola"?!? They must not > actually listen to the songs on their playlist... From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Sep 24 08:21:36 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 08:21:36 -0400 Subject: HW/NIK: Whats this? Message-ID: The sound quality is average at best and it is a very jammy session with little real structure. Probably one for real Nik fans only! COLIN From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Mon Sep 24 09:50:56 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 14:50:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Tour dates Message-ID: Hello folks, Just like to confirm the list of Hawkwind Tour dates for November. All tickets should now be on sale. SATURDAY 3rd November Wyvern Theatre, Swindon TUESDAY 6th November Irish Centre, Leeds WEDNESDAY 7th November Rock City, Nottingham THURSDAY 8th November The Sanctuary, Birmingham SATURDAY 10th November Manchester University SUNDAY 11th November Royal Court Theatre, Liverpool MONDAY 12th November The Garage, Glasgow TUESDAY 13th November Liquid Room, Edinburgh WEDNESDAY 14th November Opera House, Newcastle FRIDAY 16th November Coal Exchange, Cardiff SATURDAY 17th November Hitchin Town Hall SUNDAY 18th November Poole Arts Centre MONDAY 19th November City Hall, Salisbury TUESDAY 20th November Princess Theatre, Torquay WEDNESDAY 21st November Concorde 2, Brighton SATURDAY 24th November Walthamstow Assembly Hall MONDAY 26th November The Ambassador, Dublin Dear Marion, I'm sorry that you feel this way. I thought I was doing you a goodwill favour by boosting existing publicity. If your fans are stupid enough to think that the rest of the tour is cancelled then that is their problem. Space, as you know, is very expensive in these magazines and since you are fairly adamant that any additional costs I incur to try and boost my own ticket sales have to come out of my promoter profit I am not prepared to go to the additional expense of advertising dates that I am not responsible for. In any event, I've only seen one advert in Classic Rock and one advert in Mojo so far and I feel that there is not enough promotion being done on your side despite assurances and signed agreements from you. I would be interested to see an advertising schedule from you to clarify what you have or are doing. Regards, Glenn +++++++++++++++++++ Glenn Povey Second Wave Promotions PO Box 385 Uxbridge Middlesex UB9 5DZ ENGLAND T: +44 (0) 1494 580951 F: +44 (0) 1494 580952 M: 07932 174112 E: Swprom at aol.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Sep 24 11:38:40 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:38:40 -0400 Subject: HW: Tour dates Message-ID: "If your fans are stupid enough to think that the rest of the tour is cancelled then that is their problem." And f**k you too, Mr Povey! From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Sep 24 13:35:16 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:35:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Tour dates Message-ID: Is there any chance of a general indication of start and finish times? Particularly interested in deciding wether or not it's going to be possible to do to the Swindon gig by train if the last train back runs at 23.30? Thanks Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: XXX To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 2:50 PM Subject: HW: Tour dates Hello folks, Just like to confirm the list of Hawkwind Tour dates for November. All tickets should now be on sale. SATURDAY 3rd November Wyvern Theatre, Swindon TUESDAY 6th November Irish Centre, Leeds WEDNESDAY 7th November Rock City, Nottingham THURSDAY 8th November The Sanctuary, Birmingham SATURDAY 10th November Manchester University SUNDAY 11th November Royal Court Theatre, Liverpool MONDAY 12th November The Garage, Glasgow TUESDAY 13th November Liquid Room, Edinburgh WEDNESDAY 14th November Opera House, Newcastle FRIDAY 16th November Coal Exchange, Cardiff SATURDAY 17th November Hitchin Town Hall SUNDAY 18th November Poole Arts Centre MONDAY 19th November City Hall, Salisbury TUESDAY 20th November Princess Theatre, Torquay WEDNESDAY 21st November Concorde 2, Brighton SATURDAY 24th November Walthamstow Assembly Hall MONDAY 26th November The Ambassador, Dublin Dear Marion, I'm sorry that you feel this way. I thought I was doing you a goodwill favour by boosting existing publicity. If your fans are stupid enough to think that the rest of the tour is cancelled then that is their problem. Space, as you know, is very expensive in these magazines and since you are fairly adamant that any additional costs I incur to try and boost my own ticket sales have to come out of my promoter profit I am not prepared to go to the additional expense of advertising dates that I am not responsible for. In any event, I've only seen one advert in Classic Rock and one advert in Mojo so far and I feel that there is not enough promotion being done on your side despite assurances and signed agreements from you. I would be interested to see an advertising schedule from you to clarify what you have or are doing. Regards, Glenn +++++++++++++++++++ Glenn Povey Second Wave Promotions PO Box 385 Uxbridge Middlesex UB9 5DZ ENGLAND T: +44 (0) 1494 580951 F: +44 (0) 1494 580952 M: 07932 174112 E: Swprom at aol.com From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Sep 24 17:30:15 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:30:15 -0500 Subject: off: test Message-ID: checking the orbs blockade. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Sep 24 15:57:31 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:57:31 +0100 Subject: HW Message-ID: testing again... From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Sep 24 16:00:36 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:00:36 +0100 Subject: HW: test message Message-ID: test message 4. anybody receiving any of these? From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Sep 24 15:50:22 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:50:22 +0100 Subject: Test Post 2 Message-ID: testing once again... From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Sep 24 17:50:54 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:50:54 -0400 Subject: off: test In-Reply-To: ; from akomins@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 04:30:15PM -0500 Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 04:30:15PM -0500, Arin Komins wrote: > checking the orbs blockade. Yup, it came through. This reply is also a test; a message of mine got bounced too. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment to do what works in the long run, not by what makes us feel better in the short run. - Jean Chr?tien, Prime Minister of Canada From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Sep 24 18:04:54 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:04:54 -0500 Subject: HW: test message In-Reply-To: <017801c14533$941901c0$7f0d28d5@starfield> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Captain Bl at ck wrote: :Subject: HW: test message : :test message 4. anybody receiving any of these? Captain Bl at ck. I've just received it ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Sep 24 18:07:37 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:07:37 -0500 Subject: Test Post 2 In-Reply-To: <00fa01c14532$26cdfe00$7f0d28d5@starfield> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Captain Bl at ck wrote: :Subject: Test Post 2 : :testing once again... received. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Sep 24 18:14:15 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:14:15 -0400 Subject: off: test Message-ID: ok 4 from arin 1 from eric Eric Siegerman wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 04:30:15PM -0500, Arin Komins wrote: > > checking the orbs blockade. > > Yup, it came through. > > This reply is also a test; a message of mine got bounced too. > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must > be guided by a commitment to do what works in the long run, not by what > makes us feel better in the short run. > - Jean Chr?tien, Prime Minister of Canada From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Sep 24 18:52:45 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 23:52:45 +0100 Subject: HW: test message Message-ID: yes - the lot!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:00 PM Subject: HW: test message test message 4. anybody receiving any of these? From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Sep 24 18:36:19 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 06:36:19 +0800 Subject: Test Post 3 Message-ID: And me... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:50 AM Subject: Test Post 2 testing once again... From coral at APORT.RU Mon Sep 24 18:26:35 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 02:26:35 +0400 Subject: test Message-ID: test From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Sep 24 18:36:51 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 06:36:51 +0800 Subject: HW: test message Message-ID: yep Hi Captain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 4:00 AM Subject: HW: test message test message 4. anybody receiving any of these? From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Sep 24 18:30:40 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:30:40 -0400 Subject: Fwd: OFF: a face in the smoke - OMG Message-ID: wow-this is really creepy(unless it's faked) Subject: a face in the smoke - OMG 9NEWS.com - Newsroom From novadrive at HOME.COM Mon Sep 24 18:34:27 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:34:27 -0700 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive Message-ID: OK, I'll ask first: Where are we meeting before the Royal Festival Hall gig? KevinSommers (smiling ear to ear) Cognito ergo sum, I think... From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Mon Sep 24 18:06:11 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:06:11 -0400 Subject: test message Message-ID: I am receiving. Dr. dan (In sunny old Los Angeles!!) -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck [SMTP:starfield at SUPANET.COM] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 1:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: test message test message 4. anybody receiving any of these? From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Mon Sep 24 18:46:51 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:46:51 -0400 Subject: test Message-ID: Rec'd Dr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Alice [SMTP:coral at APORT.RU] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 3:27 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: test test From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Mon Sep 24 20:28:05 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 02:28:05 +0200 Subject: HW: November Tour Message-ID: Hi folks, I'm currently thinking about flying to England for one of the November gigs and as I don't have any more leave days it has to be during the weekend. I think the Walthamstow gig (Sat Nov 24) would be the ideal choice for me. Now some questions: - where _is_ Walthamstow? It's somewhere in London, but where? - IIRC some of the other non-UK folks (Arin?) will also be flying over again. Do you guys have something planned already (lodging etc.), so that I can perhaps join you for the time I'm there (you know, like before the Astoria gig last year)? I hate it to be alone at a HW-gig... cu D+R From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 24 20:24:06 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 01:24:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: seeking source for Black Ingvars :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 9:01 +0000 21.09.2001, Juba N wrote: >I can try to track it down for you. I know they have done some 3 to 4 >different CD?s. At 18:46 +0200 21.09.2001, Johan Edlundh wrote: >from mail order http://www.ginza.se >Black-Ingvars Sjung och var glad 1997 CD 79 kr >If Juba (hi!) will fail on this one, I'll get it for you. >This is culture. Alas, Ginza only seems to ship to Sweden & Norway. Why I can order directly from French or German online shops but not Scandinavian ones is a mystery to me. But never mind that now .... So, Juba, if you could help me out with a copy of _Sjung och var glad_, that would be great. I can send UK cash, Swedish cash, some CD from the UK, or whatever! :) Cheers, Carl From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 24 20:39:03 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 01:39:03 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010925021712.023b0ec0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: At 2:28 +0200 25.09.2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: >- where _is_ Walthamstow? It's somewhere in London, but where? Pretty far north, relatively speaking. But the Victoria Line on the Underground will get you from Central London to several stops in/around Walthamstow. Not sure how close any are to the venue, though! Cheers, Carl From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Mon Sep 24 20:41:14 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:41:14 EDT Subject: THIS IS A TEST Message-ID: If it weren't, I'd run screaming, like, "AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!" Ever'bodys posts coming A-OK Joe From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Mon Sep 24 20:44:59 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:44:59 EDT Subject: OFF: a face in the smoke - OMG Message-ID: In a message dated 9/24/01 5:32:40 PM US Eastern Standard Time, ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: > wow-this is really creepy(unless it's faked) > Subject: a face in the smoke - OMG > > > Yeah, I saw that on the Bob and Tom Show site. Looks more like Sir Ian Mc Kellen in his 'Gandalf' make-up. Joe From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 24 20:57:53 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:57:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: This is NOT a test Message-ID: Yes? How can I help you?... What do you mean, _I_ posted this? Oh. OK. Never mind :-) To bring this _slightly_ on topic, anyone here heard of Sonata Arctica? I strongly recommend their latest, "Silence". There's some truly amazing stuff on there, especially the last, epic, 10+ min. track ("The power of one"). For those unfamiliar with the band, I guess you could call them prog metal. http://www.sonataarctica.com Oh, and the album's cover is breath-taking! Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From swann at CUGC.ORG Mon Sep 24 20:57:49 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:57:49 -0400 Subject: OFF; TURN ON YOUR TV'S In-Reply-To: ; from blackblade@BHALLIGAN.COM on Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:19:46AM -0400 Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:19:46AM -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: > > TURN ON YOUR TV'S OR RADIOS OR WHATEVER, SHOCKING NEWS, > > UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Please, all NYC listmembers write in and let us know that you're OK. You know, this is way the hell off topic, but I'm going to break protocol for once. My company had 11,000 people in the World Financial Center (those blocky looking buildings with the little glass pyramids on top that you see in the helicopter shots of the World Trade Center wreckage). My company seems to have "only" (a sick thought, I know) lost 2 employees, and amazingly enough, I lost no-one that I know. A miracle, really: I have friends and co-workers who spent a lot of time in the twin towers, including one with two young daughters, who was late for a meeting there that morning. A junior SA I hired a couple months back was coming up out of the subway tunnels at Portland Street when the first plane hit, and was only a couple blocks away when the buildings collapsed. Another older co-worker of mine, a gentleman close to retirement age, who usually professes to have seen it all, was close to tears in attempting to describe the scene. I tell you, this kind of stuff changes your life. At times, the magnitude of the event seems so enormous that it becomes impersonalized, until I recall how many of my close personal friends came to dying that morning. I'm not going to discuss politics here. I just wanted to tell you what it's like to work across from what used to be one of the greatest man-made views in the world. I can't adequately describe the feelings that I have looking at the hole in the sky across the river. Sometime later this week, I'm going to have to go over to the north tower. I'll be right next to the Amex building where I used to work a couple of years ago, which was being used last week as a morgue. I'll take the ferry, which was used to carry bodies to the Jersey side. The whole thing has a feeling of unreality to it - I keep expecting that one day I'll wake up and there won't be a smoking hole in the ground where the towers used to be. Steve From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Mon Sep 24 21:21:20 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:21:20 EDT Subject: HW: test message Message-ID: figured I'd make sure I'm sending From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Sep 24 21:46:10 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:46:10 -0400 Subject: OFF: ? Message-ID: Has anyone heard anything from listmember Stephan Forstner recently? I owe him some stuff (I owe other people, too! ack!) and he hasn't replied to recent Email ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Sep 25 01:48:35 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 05:48:35 +0000 Subject: OFF: a face in the smoke - OMG Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Sep 25 00:54:27 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:54:27 -0400 Subject: Captain Trip label on sale (US sales) Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just a heads up that a cheap source for some good things on the Captain Trip label (and some not so good I'll admit) are being offered for $10 ppd (single discs). http://www.coda-records.com/sales1.html# Keith H. From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Tue Sep 25 10:58:42 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:58:42 -0400 Subject: HW: test message In-Reply-To: <001e01c1454b$a0ef8500$ed9abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Andy. When do you think you will have the Yule Ritual and Brock Demos available? Do you also know the price they will be? Thanks, Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI Sent: 24 September 2001 18:53 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: test message yes - the lot!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:00 PM Subject: HW: test message test message 4. anybody receiving any of these? From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Sep 25 08:32:19 2001 From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juba N) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:32:19 +0000 Subject: OFF: seeking source for Black Ingvars :) Message-ID: Hi Carl! Consider it a deal. I have already tracked down one copy of the CD. I?ll get back to you about payment. I?ll propably want some CD from UK, just have to decide which one. OK? Cheers, Juba > >Alas, Ginza only seems to ship to Sweden & Norway. Why I can order >directly from French or German online shops but not Scandinavian ones >is a mystery to me. But never mind that now .... So, Juba, if you >could help me out with a copy of _Sjung och var glad_, that would be >great. I can send UK cash, Swedish cash, some CD from the UK, or >whatever! :) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 25 08:45:02 2001 From: spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM (Space Wreck) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 05:45:02 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: Captain Trip label on sale (US sales) In-Reply-To: <200109250610.CAA00195@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Here's the list of Captain Trip CDs for sale (it's not too long - only 30-something CDs). Anybody want to share an opinion on the "must-haves" on this list? The Amon Duul II's Tanz der Lemminge is essential, I think, and Lemmingmania is good, too. Still don't have Phallus Dei, but I'll be ordering that today. What else is good? How does that Marble Sheep CD compare with their "Shinjuku Loft"? Anything that should be avoided? Thanks! MWood Amon Duul - Paradieswarts Duul - $10.00 Amon Duul II - Lemmingmania - $10.00 Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei - $10.00 Amon Duul II - Tanz Der Lemminge - $10.00 Blue Cheer - Hello Tokyo, Goodbye Osaka - $10.00 Blue Cheer - Live & Unreleased - $10.00 Cluster - Japan 1996 Live - $10.00 Dunkelziffer - Colours & Soul - $10.00 Dunkelziffer - In The Night - $10.00 Dunkelziffer - Live - $10.00 Dunkelziffer - III - $10.00 50 Ft. Hose - Live & Unreleased - $10.00 Guru Guru - Live '98 - $25.00 Harald Grosskopt - Synthesist - $10.00 Kluster - Zwei-Osterei - $10.00 Kraan - Dancing In The Shade - $10.00 Kraan - Flyday - $10.00 Kraan - Nachtfahrt - $10.00 Kraan - Tournee - $10.00 Kraan - Wiederhoren - $10.00 Marble Sheep - Stone Marby - $10.00 Moebius/Neumeier/Engler - Other Places - $10.00 Neu! - Live '72 - $10.00 Pink Fairies - No Picture - $10.00 Roedelius - Ahead Of The Wind - $10.00 Roedelius - Jardin Au Fou - $10.00 Roedelius - Pink, Blue & Amber - $10.00 Roedelius/Schnitzler - Acon 2000/1 - $10.00 Space Explosion - Space Explosion - $10.00 Tiere Der Nacht - Sleepless - $10.00 Velvet Underground - Final V.U. - $40.00 Yahowha 13 - Yahowha Collection - $130.00 --- K Henderson wrote: > Hi Folks... > > Just a heads up that a cheap source for some good things on the Captain > Trip > label (and some not so good I'll admit) are being offered for $10 ppd > (single discs). > > http://www.coda-records.com/sales1.html# > > Keith H. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Tue Sep 25 09:33:18 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 07:33:18 -0600 Subject: Captain Trip label on sale (US sales) In-Reply-To: <20010925124502.56866.qmail@web12702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Go for the Space Explosion. Mark -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Space Wreck Subject: OFF: Re: Captain Trip label on sale (US sales) Anybody want to share an opinion on the "must-haves" on this list? Anything that should be avoided? Thanks! MWood Amon Duul - Paradieswarts Duul - $10.00 Amon Duul II - Lemmingmania - $10.00 Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei - $10.00 Amon Duul II - Tanz Der Lemminge - $10.00 Blue Cheer - Hello Tokyo, Goodbye Osaka - $10.00 Blue Cheer - Live & Unreleased - $10.00 Cluster - Japan 1996 Live - $10.00 Dunkelziffer - Colours & Soul - $10.00 Dunkelziffer - In The Night - $10.00 Dunkelziffer - Live - $10.00 Dunkelziffer - III - $10.00 50 Ft. Hose - Live & Unreleased - $10.00 Guru Guru - Live '98 - $25.00 Harald Grosskopt - Synthesist - $10.00 Kluster - Zwei-Osterei - $10.00 Kraan - Dancing In The Shade - $10.00 Kraan - Flyday - $10.00 Kraan - Nachtfahrt - $10.00 Kraan - Tournee - $10.00 Kraan - Wiederhoren - $10.00 Marble Sheep - Stone Marby - $10.00 Moebius/Neumeier/Engler - Other Places - $10.00 Neu! - Live '72 - $10.00 Pink Fairies - No Picture - $10.00 Roedelius - Ahead Of The Wind - $10.00 Roedelius - Jardin Au Fou - $10.00 Roedelius - Pink, Blue & Amber - $10.00 Roedelius/Schnitzler - Acon 2000/1 - $10.00 Space Explosion - Space Explosion - $10.00 Tiere Der Nacht - Sleepless - $10.00 Velvet Underground - Final V.U. - $40.00 Yahowha 13 - Yahowha Collection - $130.00 --- K Henderson wrote: __________________________________________________ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Sep 25 10:41:20 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:41:20 -0500 Subject: HW: November Tour In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010925021712.023b0ec0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: :Subject: HW: November Tour : :Hi folks, : :I'm currently thinking about flying to England for one of the November gigs :and as I don't have any more leave days it has to be during the weekend. I :think the Walthamstow gig (Sat Nov 24) would be the ideal choice for me. :Now some questions: :- where _is_ Walthamstow? It's somewhere in London, but where? :- IIRC some of the other non-UK folks (Arin?) will also be flying over :again. Do you guys have something planned already (lodging etc.), so that I :can perhaps join you for the time I'm there (you know, like before the :Astoria gig last year)? I hate it to be alone at a HW-gig... : :cu Denis, I'm heading over...and I think Eric Siegerman is heading over as well. (Mike Blackman may already *be* over by now.) I can include you in on lodging plans for Walthamstow if you like. Give me your itinerary, and contact me off list, and I'll see what I can do. (this goes for others on list as well...if you have an interest in joining up for group lodging or whatever for the november gigs....but contact me soon!) Thanks! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue Sep 25 11:11:20 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:11:20 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour Message-ID: Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs in October & November How about letting people know which gigs your going to then hopefully some of us will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale and whatever else comes our way regards Iain Currently going to:- London RFH - 10th Oct Swindon - 3rd Nov Cardiff - 16th Nov Dublin 26th Nov Arin Komins wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > > :Subject: HW: November Tour > : > :Hi folks, > : > :I'm currently thinking about flying to England for one of the November gigs > :and as I don't have any more leave days it has to be during the weekend. I > :think the Walthamstow gig (Sat Nov 24) would be the ideal choice for me. > :Now some questions: > :- where _is_ Walthamstow? It's somewhere in London, but where? > :- IIRC some of the other non-UK folks (Arin?) will also be flying over > :again. Do you guys have something planned already (lodging etc.), so that I > :can perhaps join you for the time I'm there (you know, like before the > :Astoria gig last year)? I hate it to be alone at a HW-gig... > : > :cu > > Denis, > > I'm heading over...and I think Eric Siegerman is heading over as well. > (Mike Blackman may already *be* over by now.) > > I can include you in on lodging plans for Walthamstow if you like. > Give me your itinerary, and contact me off list, and I'll see what I can > do. > > (this goes for others on list as well...if you have an interest in joining > up for group lodging or whatever for the november gigs....but contact me > soon!) > > Thanks! > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Tue Sep 25 11:16:59 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:16:59 -0500 Subject: HW: November Tour Message-ID: I too have been thinking of flying over to the UK to catch this tour. My big issue right now is deciding which dates to try to catch... I need to pull out a map of England to figure out which locations are relatively close and which are out of the way... John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > :Subject: HW: November Tour > : > :Hi folks, > : > :I'm currently thinking about flying to England for one of the November gigs > :and as I don't have any more leave days it has to be during the weekend. I > :think the Walthamstow gig (Sat Nov 24) would be the ideal choice for me. > :Now some questions: > :- where _is_ Walthamstow? It's somewhere in London, but where? > :- IIRC some of the other non-UK folks (Arin?) will also be flying over > :again. Do you guys have something planned already (lodging etc.), so that I > :can perhaps join you for the time I'm there (you know, like before the > :Astoria gig last year)? I hate it to be alone at a HW-gig... > : > :cu > > Denis, > > I'm heading over...and I think Eric Siegerman is heading over as well. > (Mike Blackman may already *be* over by now.) > > I can include you in on lodging plans for Walthamstow if you like. > Give me your itinerary, and contact me off list, and I'll see what I can > do. > > (this goes for others on list as well...if you have an interest in joining > up for group lodging or whatever for the november gigs....but contact me > soon!) > > Thanks! > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Sep 25 11:33:37 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:33:37 -0500 Subject: HW: November Tour In-Reply-To: <3BB09E98.F3849E13@aol.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, iain ferguson wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: November Tour : :Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs in October & :November : :How about letting people know which gigs your going to then hopefully some of us :will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale and whatever else comes our :way : :regards :Iain : :Currently going to:- :London RFH - 10th Oct :Swindon - 3rd Nov :Cardiff - 16th Nov :Dublin 26th Nov Well, I'm planning on being over between 7 nov. and 26 nov., which means I'm probably going to be at: Nottingham - 7th nov. Birmingham - 8th nov. Manchester - 10th nov. Liverpool - 11th nov. Glasgow - 12th nov. Edinburgh - 13th nov. Newcastle - 14th nov. Cardiff - 16th nov. Hitchin - 17th nov. Poole - 18th nov. (btw, where is this one?) Salisbury - 19th nov. Torquay - 20th nov. Brighton - 21st nov. Walthamstow - 24th nov. (if I can keep the schedule that is ;-) ) Can the folks local (or more local than I am ;-) ) pipe up with locations of pubs or other places where list folk could meet for each of the gigs? Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Sep 25 11:40:44 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:40:44 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour Message-ID: Michael Blackman IS already over here. He's staying with me.... running up HUGE bills on EVERYTHING!!!! (just kidding....) So, yeah.. he's here. I live in Preston, Lancs.. and I think he intends to travel to see as many gigs as he can.... So, if anyone is traveling to any gigs and can offer any kind of transport-sharing-thing I know he would appreciate it.. cause he's kinda broke! Also, he is working a gig in October.... around the 20 somethingth.. somewhere in London.. I forget the name of the place, or the exact date now.. but he needs to hitch a ride there if he can (with a contribution to traveling costs of course.. but anything is cheeper than the train!) is anyone traveling down from near here at all? Sorry to be so vague with the date and location of that one.... I've had a LOOONGNNNNGG day! Layla >>> akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU 09/25/01 03:41pm >>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: :Subject: HW: November Tour : :Hi folks, : :I'm currently thinking about flying to England for one of the November gigs :and as I don't have any more leave days it has to be during the weekend. I :think the Walthamstow gig (Sat Nov 24) would be the ideal choice for me. :Now some questions: :- where _is_ Walthamstow? It's somewhere in London, but where? :- IIRC some of the other non-UK folks (Arin?) will also be flying over :again. Do you guys have something planned already (lodging etc.), so that I :can perhaps join you for the time I'm there (you know, like before the :Astoria gig last year)? I hate it to be alone at a HW-gig... : :cu Denis, I'm heading over...and I think Eric Siegerman is heading over as well. (Mike Blackman may already *be* over by now.) I can include you in on lodging plans for Walthamstow if you like. Give me your itinerary, and contact me off list, and I'll see what I can do. (this goes for others on list as well...if you have an interest in joining up for group lodging or whatever for the november gigs....but contact me soon!) Thanks! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Sep 25 12:19:52 2001 From: markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM (mark cotton) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:19:52 +0000 Subject: HW: November Tour Message-ID: I'm up for Leeds on the 6th and Nottingham Rock City on the 7th. BTW there's a "something and Firkin" pub just around the corner from Nottingham Rock City. IMHO it's as good as any place to meet there, but not so sure about Leeds, though. BTW, is anybody going to the Bedouin gig on Friday Oct 19th at the "Little Wonder", Harrogate? If so, see you there. Cheers, Mark C. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Sep 25 12:26:58 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:26:58 -0400 Subject: HW: November Tour Message-ID: I am going to: Nottingham Birmingham Hitchin Brighton Walthamstow But not the Royal Festival Hall at the moment as the stupid airline say they cannot get me on an earlier flight home and my current flight lands at 11pm on the night of the gig! Colin From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Sep 25 12:53:14 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:53:14 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour Message-ID: > Poole - 18th nov. (btw, where is this one?) Hi Arin, Poole is in Dorset with Bournemouth as the nearest large town. It is only 30miles from Salisbury which is just great for the next evenings show. GARY & ANNA ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: 25 September 2001 16:33 Subject: Re: HW: November Tour > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, iain ferguson wrote: > > :Subject: Re: HW: November Tour > : > :Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs in October & > :November > : > :How about letting people know which gigs your going to then hopefully some of us > :will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale and whatever else comes our > :way > : > :regards > :Iain > : > :Currently going to:- > :London RFH - 10th Oct > :Swindon - 3rd Nov > :Cardiff - 16th Nov > :Dublin 26th Nov > > Well, I'm planning on being over between 7 nov. and 26 nov., which means > I'm probably going to be at: > > Nottingham - 7th nov. > Birmingham - 8th nov. > Manchester - 10th nov. > Liverpool - 11th nov. > Glasgow - 12th nov. > Edinburgh - 13th nov. > Newcastle - 14th nov. > Cardiff - 16th nov. > Hitchin - 17th nov. > Poole - 18th nov. (btw, where is this one?) > Salisbury - 19th nov. > Torquay - 20th nov. > Brighton - 21st nov. > Walthamstow - 24th nov. > > (if I can keep the schedule that is ;-) ) > > Can the folks local (or more local than I am ;-) ) pipe up with locations > of pubs or other places where list folk could meet for each of the gigs? > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Sep 25 14:30:41 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:30:41 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Captain Trip label on sale (US sales) Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 05:45:02 -0700, Space Wreck wrote: >Anybody want to share an opinion on the "must-haves" >on this list? The Amon Duul II's Tanz der Lemminge is >essential, I think, and Lemmingmania is good, too. >Still don't have Phallus Dei, but I'll be ordering >that today. Keep in mind that the more recent reissues of the Amon Duul II albums have bonus tracks not on the Captain Trip versions. They're also very inexpensive in the USA (despite being German imports), although not quite $10 inexpensive. I would definitely get this version of 'Paradeiswarts Duul' (AD I) if you don't have that already, since it contains the "Paramechanical World" 7" as bonus tracks. >What else is good? How does that Marble >Sheep CD compare with their "Shinjuku Loft"? I'm not positive, but I think that 'Stone Marby' is one of their later recordings, meaning it's only of interest if you're also a Grateful Dead fan. >Anything that should be avoided? Thanks! A couple of notes ... >Blue Cheer - Hello Tokyo, Goodbye Osaka - $10.00 Latter-day reunion, haven't heard it. >Blue Cheer - Live & Unreleased - $10.00 The live '68 stuff is fantastic, but super lo-fi. >Neu! - Live '72 - $10.00 This one is also fantastic and super lo-fi. An absolute MUST for Neu! fans UNLESS you're one of those people who whines about the sound quality of 'Text of Festival', 'Glastonbury 90' and the recent Nik live '78 album. >Velvet Underground - Final V.U. - $40.00 NB There is no Lou Reed on this set! It consists entirely of the post- Reed, Doug Yule/Willie Alexander version of the band! You have been warned! (Has anyone heard anything about the box set that's supposed to come out soon from Robert Quine's tape collection ... supposedly it will contain some high-quality never-booted live recordings?) >Yahowha 13 - Yahowha Collection - $130.00 I want this baby! I'm really tempted ... (Yahowa 13 was the project of one "Father Yod", a 70s hippie commune leader ... seriously WEIRD stuff) ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Sep 25 14:32:39 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:32:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: ? Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:46:10 -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: >Has anyone heard anything from listmember Stephan Forstner recently? Whew! His boss emailed me to let me know he was OK. His workplace WAS at 32 Broadway (lower Manhattan) so I was slightly worried for a moment ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Tue Sep 25 14:52:48 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:52:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Captain Trip label on sale (US sales) Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > >Neu! - Live '72 - $10.00 > > This one is also fantastic and super lo-fi. An absolute MUST for Neu! fans > UNLESS you're one of those people who whines about the sound quality > of 'Text of Festival', 'Glastonbury 90' and the recent Nik live '78 album. I'll agree with "super lo-fi" but I have to differ with "fantastic". I also object to it being called "Live" as to me that implies a concert recording. This is a rehearsal, so I think "one take" is a better description than "live". And it's not a very inspired rehearsal. I'd say get it only if you really love the three studio albums. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Tue Sep 25 15:00:53 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 20:00:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Captain Trip label on sale (US sales) In-Reply-To: <200109251830.OAA25746@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 25 Sep 01, at 14:30, Doug Pearson wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 05:45:02 -0700, Space Wreck > wrote: > >What else is good? How does that Marble > >Sheep CD compare with their "Shinjuku Loft"? > > I'm not positive, but I think that 'Stone Marby' is one of their later > recordings, meaning it's only of interest if you're also a Grateful Dead > fan. Please explain ... Alasdair From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Sep 25 13:48:13 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 13:48:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Captain Trip label on sale (US sales) Message-ID: Doug P. said... >>What else is good? How does that Marble >>Sheep CD compare with their "Shinjuku Loft"? > >I'm not positive, but I think that 'Stone Marby' is one of their later >recordings, meaning it's only of interest if you're also a Grateful Dead >fan. It said somewhere there that this recording (which is indeed relatively new) was more like the original band, and so I went and ordered it myself. I'm not sure if they got Michio Kurihara back in the band or not, but I figured it had to be a pretty good recording at least (some of the old stuff is pretty rough), and I have hopes that it won't be anything like that rubbish on 'Twiga' or anything. Psychedelic Paradise Live I thought was quite good actually, in a way rather like the Dead, yes, but given that I can't stand the Dead, much better. :) Grakkl (FAA) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Sep 25 17:03:21 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 22:03:21 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Captain Trip label on sale (US sales) Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Space Wreck" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: OFF: Re: Captain Trip label on sale (US sales) > Here's the list of Captain Trip CDs for sale (it's > not too long - only 30-something CDs). > > Anybody want to share an opinion on the "must-haves" > on this list? The Amon Duul II's Tanz der Lemminge is > essential, I think, and Lemmingmania is good, too. > Still don't have Phallus Dei, but I'll be ordering > that today. What else is good? How does that Marble > Sheep CD compare with their "Shinjuku Loft"? Anything > that should be avoided? Thanks! > > MWood > > Amon Duul - Paradieswarts Duul - $10.00Essential > Amon Duul II - Lemmingmania - $10.00Best of - as good as > Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei - $10.00Essential > Amon Duul II - Tanz Der Lemminge - $10.00Essential > Blue Cheer - Hello Tokyo, Goodbye Osaka - $10.00Essential - honest - it's a belter!!! > Blue Cheer - Live & Unreleased - $10.00No idea > Cluster - Japan 1996 Live - $10.00Superb > Dunkelziffer - Colours & Soul - $10.00Bit lightweight but OK for the committed Can fan > Dunkelziffer - In The Night - $10.00Esential for Can fans > Dunkelziffer - Live - $10.00Essential for Can fans > Dunkelziffer - III - $10.00Essential for Can fans > 50 Ft. Hose - Live & Unreleased - $10.00No idea > Guru Guru - Live '98 - $25.00Get it for CD 2, CD 1is still very good and if it's the triple, then CD 3 is early stuff, hot but ropey quality > Harald Grosskopt - ynthesist - $10.00A classic - sort of sh Ra but stronger > Kluster - Zwei-Osterei - $10.00Noisy > Kraan - Dancing In The Shade - $10.00Commercial > Kraan - Flyday - $10.00Too commercial > Kraan - Nachtfahrt - $10.00One of the better later period albums > Kraan - Tournee - $10.00Also pretty good > Kraan - Wiederhoren - $10.00Not bad > Marble Sheep - Stone Marby - $10.00Latest and greatest studio album - superb and one hell of a bargain > Moebius/Neumeier/Engler - Other Places - $10.00Boring > Neu! - Live '72 - $10.00Absolutely terrible > Pink Fairies - No Picture - $10.00Brilliant Roedelius - Ahead Of The Wind - $10.00English title for something I can't remember > Roedelius - Jardin Au Fou - $10.00Laid back synth but very pleasant > Roedelius - Pink, Blue & Amber - $10.00OK > Roedelius/Schnitzler - Acon 2000/1 - $10.00Weird and little recogniseable melody/rhythm/tune > Space Explosion - Space Explosion - $10.00Gets better the more you play it > Tiere Der Nacht - Sleepless - $10.00Exactly the opposite of the above > Velvet Underground - Final V.U. - $40.00no idea > Yahowha 13 - Yahowha Collection - $130.00no idea Andy Garibaldi (opinionated as ever) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Sep 25 16:53:26 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:53:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Message-ID: Hi, Yule Ritual was promised last week but now promised this week, so we'll see. It's a double and I know we're doing an offer price but right now I can't remember what that is, but I'll check at the office tomorrow and let you know. They said the Brock one will be about 2-3 weeks away and that will be ?11.99 offer price, if I remember right, with overseas customers getting the discount off that too. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ejobson" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:58 PM Subject: Re: HW: test message > Andy. > > When do you think you will have the Yule Ritual and Brock Demos available? > > Do you also know the price they will be? > > Thanks, > > Eddie. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI > Sent: 24 September 2001 18:53 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: test message > > > yes - the lot!!! > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:00 PM > Subject: HW: test message > > > test message 4. anybody receiving any of these? From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Sep 25 17:16:08 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:16:08 EDT Subject: OFF: ? Message-ID: In a message dated 9/25/01 11:33:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > Whew! His boss emailed me to let me know he was OK. His workplace WAS at > 32 Broadway (lower Manhattan) so I was slightly worried for a moment ... > eww...didn't know that. glad you're ok, Stephan. Chuck From novadrive at HOME.COM Tue Sep 25 17:53:23 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:53:23 -0700 Subject: HW: November Tour In-Reply-To: <3BB09E98.F3849E13@aol.com> Message-ID: I'm always in the mood for ale and whatever else, and will definitely be before the RFH show. I'm arriving in Oct 7 in order to save $1000 in airfare, but have no doubt that I'll enjoy a few extra days in London! KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of iain ferguson Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:11 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: November Tour Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs in October & November How about letting people know which gigs your going to then hopefully some of us will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale and whatever else comes our way regards Iain Currently going to:- London RFH - 10th Oct Swindon - 3rd Nov Cardiff - 16th Nov Dublin 26th Nov Arin Komins wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > > :Subject: HW: November Tour > : > :Hi folks, > : > :I'm currently thinking about flying to England for one of the November gigs > :and as I don't have any more leave days it has to be during the weekend. I > :think the Walthamstow gig (Sat Nov 24) would be the ideal choice for me. > :Now some questions: > :- where _is_ Walthamstow? It's somewhere in London, but where? > :- IIRC some of the other non-UK folks (Arin?) will also be flying over > :again. Do you guys have something planned already (lodging etc.), so that I > :can perhaps join you for the time I'm there (you know, like before the > :Astoria gig last year)? I hate it to be alone at a HW-gig... > : > :cu > > Denis, > > I'm heading over...and I think Eric Siegerman is heading over as well. > (Mike Blackman may already *be* over by now.) > > I can include you in on lodging plans for Walthamstow if you like. > Give me your itinerary, and contact me off list, and I'll see what I can > do. > > (this goes for others on list as well...if you have an interest in joining > up for group lodging or whatever for the november gigs....but contact me > soon!) > > Thanks! > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From novadrive at HOME.COM Tue Sep 25 17:55:52 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:55:52 -0700 Subject: HW: November Tour In-Reply-To: <001101c145d5$1f844fc0$e7d1b718@xx177845c> Message-ID: Hello John--- Time is (obviously) getting tight for the RFH show, but by going a few days early, I was able to pay $700 instead of $1700 for a flight )from Arizona, where Phoenix is fried up). I'm by no means expert in UK geography, but I believe that the RFH is as close to central London as you can get... KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of John Majka Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:17 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: November Tour I too have been thinking of flying over to the UK to catch this tour. My big issue right now is deciding which dates to try to catch... I need to pull out a map of England to figure out which locations are relatively close and which are out of the way... John Majka jmajka2 at home.com From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Wed Sep 26 00:44:44 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 00:44:44 -0400 Subject: OFF: SLOTERDIJK@Burning Man ( northeast Event: 10/19-10/21 Message-ID: SLOTERDIJK is pleased to announce our upcoming involvement with "Playa del Fuego", the autumn northeast "Burning Man" event held near Odessa, Delaware, Friday October 19th through Sunday October 21rst. This event is limited to 500 persons. $20.00 advance tickets, and $35.00 at the event gets you camping for the whole weekend. Tickets available via the website URL below. The rules regarding this event are very specific, so you must read the whole faq section of the event website; www.playadelfuego.org The event is taking place on private property, owned and maintained by the VV MC ( Vietnam Veteran's Motor Cycle Club). The Clubhouse is off limits. Also TOTALLY OFF LIMITS, is an area around the flagpole near the clubhouse, wherein which reside sacred remains. This is an extremely cool event, but the rules regarding the club, the property, etc, must be strictly adhered to. A policy of "Leave No Trace" will be employed, which means that even biodegradeable waste has to be taken care of property. All the info can be accessed via www.playadelfuego.org Sloterdijk will perform a special all electronic set, but we will also be bringing acoustic instruments for jams. Also appearing will be Philadelphia area musician and sculptor Doug Mcmahan aka Scattered Planets www.scatteredplanets.com There will be many great djs, performers and more...Hope to see some of you there. This is the chance to enjoy a unique outdoor event. Peace, Mike Burro (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Wed Sep 26 03:06:34 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 02:06:34 -0500 Subject: off: Subarachnoid Space Message-ID: Just got back from their show here. It was great, best space rock that's came through since Harvey. I think they have two dates left on their tour. I taped them, but they only got to play half their set due to starting so late. If anybody else taped a show on this tour I would love to trade. From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Sep 26 06:21:45 2001 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:21:45 +0000 Subject: Colm r u out there? Message-ID: alright colm, it's Alan here, the guy u met at Cantabury bus statoin! I'm back on line and would like to meet you and your mate from Brighton.I'll be at the Oct London gig and I'm plannin to go to Poole,Brighton and London.I'll no doubt be with Andrea and Ben Fagin.Contact me on the list nand neone else you think's going to these gigs,cheers Alan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 26 06:33:11 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:33:11 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour In-Reply-To: iain ferguson's message of Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:11:20 +0100 Message-ID: iain ferguson writes: > Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs in October & > November > How about letting people know which gigs your going to then hopefully > some of us will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale Ale? What's this ale thing? FoFP From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Sep 26 06:45:33 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:45:33 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour Message-ID: Mmmm either your extracting the urine or you genuinely don't know....... I guess you better make it over here to the UK sometime and ask the first person you meet where to i get a Jar of Ale ... On the other hand I could just tell you its Beer. Beer thats drawn from a barrel either by gravity or by handpump. No mechanical implements used or Gas used to draw it into the glass... regards Iain (self professed Beer expert) M Holmes wrote: > iain ferguson writes: > > > Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs in October & > > November > > > How about letting people know which gigs your going to then hopefully > > some of us will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale > > Ale? What's this ale thing? > > FoFP From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Sep 26 06:48:35 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard, The High Priest Of Lobster Bisque) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:48:35 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour In-Reply-To: <3BB1B1CD.5ECD2390@aol.com> Message-ID: Having met the gentleman in question, I think we can safely say he's extracting the urine... :-) Cheers, R. > > Mmmm > > either your extracting the urine or you genuinely don't know....... > > I guess you better make it over here to the UK sometime and ask the first > person you meet where to i get a Jar of Ale ... > > On the other hand I could just tell you its Beer. Beer thats drawn from a > barrel either by gravity or by handpump. No mechanical implements > used or Gas > used to draw it into the glass... > > regards > Iain (self professed Beer expert) > > M Holmes wrote: > > > iain ferguson writes: > > > > > Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs > in October & > > > November > > > > > How about letting people know which gigs your going to then hopefully > > > some of us will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale > > > > Ale? What's this ale thing? > > > > FoFP > From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Sep 26 10:03:26 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 07:03:26 -0700 Subject: HW: November Tour In-Reply-To: <3BB1B1CD.5ECD2390@aol.com> Message-ID: Urrrrm, obviously you've never met Mike.... KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of iain ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 3:46 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: November Tour Mmmm either your extracting the urine or you genuinely don't know....... I guess you better make it over here to the UK sometime and ask the first person you meet where to i get a Jar of Ale ... On the other hand I could just tell you its Beer. Beer thats drawn from a barrel either by gravity or by handpump. No mechanical implements used or Gas used to draw it into the glass... regards Iain (self professed Beer expert) M Holmes wrote: > iain ferguson writes: > > > Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs in October & > > November > > > How about letting people know which gigs your going to then hopefully > > some of us will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale > > Ale? What's this ale thing? > > FoFP From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Sep 26 10:52:38 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:52:38 +0100 Subject: Off: HW: November Tour - Jugs of Ale Message-ID: MMmmmm NO send me pictures I demand to see pictures Regards Iain KevinSommers wrote: > Urrrrm, obviously you've never met Mike.... > > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of iain ferguson > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 3:46 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: November Tour > > Mmmm > > either your extracting the urine or you genuinely don't know....... > > I guess you better make it over here to the UK sometime and ask the first > person you meet where to i get a Jar of Ale ... > > On the other hand I could just tell you its Beer. Beer thats drawn from a > barrel either by gravity or by handpump. No mechanical implements used or > Gas > used to draw it into the glass... > > regards > Iain (self professed Beer expert) > > M Holmes wrote: > > > iain ferguson writes: > > > > > Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs in October & > > > November > > > > > How about letting people know which gigs your going to then hopefully > > > some of us will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale > > > > Ale? What's this ale thing? > > > > FoFP From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Sep 26 14:59:39 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:59:39 +0100 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive Message-ID: KevinSommers wrote: > KevinSommers (smiling ear to ear) > Cognito ergo sum, I think... Sorry to be a nitpicker, but I think it's Cogito ergo sum - otherwise it would be "I recognise therefore I am"??? (possibly) From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Sep 26 15:07:01 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:07:01 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour Message-ID: I'll be at the Newcastle gig on the 14th - I would say the Dog & Parrot is not too far (if you can find the Marlborough Bus Station near the Central Station - Rail) and there's a pub across the road is okay (can't remember the name now, but I reckon they're both good real ale pubs). May be in one myself on the night, so I'll look out for other likely gig-goers. Cheers guys. f. rat Arin Komins wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, iain ferguson wrote: > > :Subject: Re: HW: November Tour > : > :Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs in October & > :November > : > :How about letting people know which gigs your going to then hopefully some of us > :will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale and whatever else comes our > :way > : > :regards > :Iain > : > :Currently going to:- > :London RFH - 10th Oct > :Swindon - 3rd Nov > :Cardiff - 16th Nov > :Dublin 26th Nov > > Well, I'm planning on being over between 7 nov. and 26 nov., which means > I'm probably going to be at: > > Nottingham - 7th nov. > Birmingham - 8th nov. > Manchester - 10th nov. > Liverpool - 11th nov. > Glasgow - 12th nov. > Edinburgh - 13th nov. > Newcastle - 14th nov. > Cardiff - 16th nov. > Hitchin - 17th nov. > Poole - 18th nov. (btw, where is this one?) > Salisbury - 19th nov. > Torquay - 20th nov. > Brighton - 21st nov. > Walthamstow - 24th nov. > > (if I can keep the schedule that is ;-) ) > > Can the folks local (or more local than I am ;-) ) pipe up with locations > of pubs or other places where list folk could meet for each of the gigs? > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 26 16:00:16 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:00:16 +0100 Subject: HW/NIK: Whats this? Message-ID: The sound is pretty crap. Not a patch on Xitintoday (one of may all time favs) and Nik is so low down in the mix he's hardly audible in some places. Steffi Sharpstrings takes the place of Steve Hillage - to good. Hari Williamson also plays - the rest of the group are a bit ploddy. Dave -----Original Message----- From: christmu at eunet.no To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 24 September 2001 10:39 Subject: HW/NIK: Whats this? >Saw this on CDNOW: Does anyone have any details on tis Turner release? How >is the sound? Any good? > >Nik Turner - Conscience of Hawkwind: Live Deeply Vale Free 78 > >Chr. > > > --- >Visit A Disease of The Mind at >http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp >covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. > From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 26 15:10:38 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:10:38 +0100 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive Message-ID: Surely Bibo ergo sum I drink therefore I am? --- Kevin Perry The Mountain Grill http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: f. rat To: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 7:59 PM Subject: Re: HW: This year's Beehive > KevinSommers wrote: > > > KevinSommers (smiling ear to ear) > > Cognito ergo sum, I think... > > Sorry to be a nitpicker, but I think it's Cogito ergo sum - otherwise it would > be "I recognise therefore I am"??? (possibly) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Sep 26 16:47:16 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:47:16 -0600 Subject: OFF- Chris + Mary Bruce In-Reply-To: <008301c146c5$dd5dd3e0$5119883e@default> Message-ID: Mary's mother has passed away if any care to contact them- phone (508) 922 5111 or e-mail me later mike c From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 26 16:48:47 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:48:47 +0100 Subject: November Gigs - Glasgow and Edinburgh Message-ID: Going to both - a last call for a pint? Dave From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 26 17:00:03 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:00:03 +0100 Subject: Ron and Jerry Message-ID: Are we to take it that as Ron and Jerry are not on the tour and are playing the Greasy Truckers event they are no longer on board the mothership-proper. Dave From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 26 17:04:11 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:04:11 +0100 Subject: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties Message-ID: The ex-Hawkwind gig in October would appear to be slightly challenged on the guitar department whatt with no Dave and Huw. Who is going to do the honours? Mick Slattery? Surely not, he didn't play a note at Hawkestra. Ade Shaw? I await updates with amused interest. Dave From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Wed Sep 26 16:47:22 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:47:22 +0100 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive Message-ID: Always liked 'Carpe Jugulum' myself (seize the throat) I think I've spelt it right anyway...... (It's a Terry Pratchett book) L. xx >>> kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET 09/26/01 08:10pm >>> Surely Bibo ergo sum I drink therefore I am? --- Kevin Perry The Mountain Grill http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: f. rat To: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 7:59 PM Subject: Re: HW: This year's Beehive > KevinSommers wrote: > > > KevinSommers (smiling ear to ear) > > Cognito ergo sum, I think... > > Sorry to be a nitpicker, but I think it's Cogito ergo sum - otherwise it would > be "I recognise therefore I am"??? (possibly) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Sep 26 16:59:26 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:59:26 -0400 Subject: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:04:11 +0100, dave hall wrote: >The ex-Hawkwind gig in October would appear to be slightly challenged on >the guitar department whatt with no Dave and Huw. Who is going to do the >honours? Mick Slattery? Like you said in your other message, Jerry's in it. And Mick Slattery (who played at the '85 Hawkon IIRC). Paul Rudolph is on the "invited" list (but I doubt anyone's sprung for airfare from Vancouver). And although he's not listed as part of the "Hawkestra", that 'Judge' guy who hangs out here sometimes will be at the event and plays a pretty mean Brock-ish rhythm (his guitar parts on that Pinkwind album are, IMO, about the *only* good thing on it). And just in case anyone hasn't already received this (actually, from the cc: list, it looks like you pretty much all HAVE) ... >THE GREASY TRUCKERS PARTY 2001 - oct 21 London Astoria > >HAWKESTRA LINE-UP > >The Mighty Thunder Rider (Nik Turner) >Terry Ollis >Del Dettmar >Alan Powell >Thomas Crimble >Steve Swindells >Dave Anderson >Mik Slattery >The Calverts >Ron Tree >Martin Griffin >Adrian Shaw >Captain Rizz >Jerry Richards > >invited, but yet to be confirmed... Lemme - Paul Rudolf - >Alan Powel - Dik Mik - Mik Moorcock - Danny Thompson > > >INNER CITY UNIT LINE-UP > >The Mighty Thunder Rider >Judge Trev >Dino Ferari >Dead Fred >Steve Pond >Nazzer >The Havant Saxophone and Clarinet Choir !!! > > >Truckers Party bookings: 0207 771 2000 > > >See Lord Litter's Radio Malibu "top links": >http://www.lordlitter.de/base.html > > >Also see: R. F. M. Real Festival Music >http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk -Doug (who'd be there if he wasn't about to drop a large amount of $$$ on recording equipment) jasret at mindspring.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 26 18:05:25 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:05:25 +0100 Subject: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties Message-ID: Yeah, I was at Hawkon - I hope Mick's been practicing!! - a lot Dave -----Original Message----- From: Doug Pearson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 26 September 2001 22:01 Subject: Re: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties >On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:04:11 +0100, dave hall > wrote: >>The ex-Hawkwind gig in October would appear to be slightly challenged on >>the guitar department whatt with no Dave and Huw. Who is going to do the >>honours? Mick Slattery? > >Like you said in your other message, Jerry's in it. And Mick Slattery (who >played at the '85 Hawkon IIRC). Paul Rudolph is on the "invited" list (but >I doubt anyone's sprung for airfare from Vancouver). And although he's not >listed as part of the "Hawkestra", that 'Judge' guy who hangs out here >sometimes will be at the event and plays a pretty mean Brock-ish rhythm >(his guitar parts on that Pinkwind album are, IMO, about the *only* good >thing on it). > >And just in case anyone hasn't already received this (actually, from the >cc: list, it looks like you pretty much all HAVE) ... >>THE GREASY TRUCKERS PARTY 2001 - oct 21 London Astoria >> >>HAWKESTRA LINE-UP >> >>The Mighty Thunder Rider (Nik Turner) >>Terry Ollis >>Del Dettmar >>Alan Powell >>Thomas Crimble >>Steve Swindells >>Dave Anderson >>Mik Slattery >>The Calverts >>Ron Tree >>Martin Griffin >>Adrian Shaw >>Captain Rizz >>Jerry Richards >> >>invited, but yet to be confirmed... Lemme - Paul Rudolf - >>Alan Powel - Dik Mik - Mik Moorcock - Danny Thompson >> >> >>INNER CITY UNIT LINE-UP >> >>The Mighty Thunder Rider >>Judge Trev >>Dino Ferari >>Dead Fred >>Steve Pond >>Nazzer >>The Havant Saxophone and Clarinet Choir !!! >> >> >>Truckers Party bookings: 0207 771 2000 >> >> >>See Lord Litter's Radio Malibu "top links": >>http://www.lordlitter.de/base.html >> >> >>Also see: R. F. M. Real Festival Music >>http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk > > -Doug (who'd be there if he wasn't about to drop a large amount of $$$ >on recording equipment) > jasret at mindspring.com > From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Sep 26 17:30:22 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:30:22 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour Message-ID: maybe we should sort out meeting places for all the gigs on the tour? There seems to be alot of people off this list going to at least one or more shows. Its just an idea, but it would be good just to say hi and put faces to names and stuff. cheers Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 Currently listening to: ----- Original Message ----- From: "KevinSommers" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:55 PM Subject: Re: HW: November Tour > Hello John--- > Time is (obviously) getting tight for the RFH show, but by going a few days > early, I was able to pay $700 instead of $1700 for a flight )from Arizona, > where Phoenix is fried up). I'm by no means expert in UK geography, but I > believe that the RFH is as close to central London as you can get... > > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of John Majka > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:17 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: November Tour > > > I too have been thinking of flying over to the UK to catch this tour. My > big issue right now is deciding which dates to try to catch... I need to > pull out a map of England to figure out which locations are relatively close > and which are out of the way... > John Majka > jmajka2 at home.com > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Wed Sep 26 17:27:31 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:27:31 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour Message-ID: Me and Michael Blackman are going up for that gig. We are meeting my Dad and his lass in the Percy... (suprise, suprise!!) Just cause it's a good place and we all know where it is! So, just though I'd put forward that piece of information incase anyone else was planning on going there. We'll be there for a good while before the gig though... cause my Dad likes his beer! (so do I!) I'm not sure how long it takes to get to the opera house from there though.... It's on waterloo street isn't it????.... I THINK it'd take about 10 mins to walk there from the Percy... does that sound about right? Anyway... that's where we're going to be.... L. xx >>> hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK 09/26/01 08:07pm >>> I'll be at the Newcastle gig on the 14th - I would say the Dog & Parrot is not too far (if you can find the Marlborough Bus Station near the Central Station - Rail) and there's a pub across the road is okay (can't remember the name now, but I reckon they're both good real ale pubs). May be in one myself on the night, so I'll look out for other likely gig-goers. Cheers guys. f. rat Arin Komins wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, iain ferguson wrote: > > :Subject: Re: HW: November Tour > : > :Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs in October & > :November > : > :How about letting people know which gigs your going to then hopefully some of us > :will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale and whatever else comes our > :way > : > :regards > :Iain > : > :Currently going to:- > :London RFH - 10th Oct > :Swindon - 3rd Nov > :Cardiff - 16th Nov > :Dublin 26th Nov > > Well, I'm planning on being over between 7 nov. and 26 nov., which means > I'm probably going to be at: > > Nottingham - 7th nov. > Birmingham - 8th nov. > Manchester - 10th nov. > Liverpool - 11th nov. > Glasgow - 12th nov. > Edinburgh - 13th nov. > Newcastle - 14th nov. > Cardiff - 16th nov. > Hitchin - 17th nov. > Poole - 18th nov. (btw, where is this one?) > Salisbury - 19th nov. > Torquay - 20th nov. > Brighton - 21st nov. > Walthamstow - 24th nov. > > (if I can keep the schedule that is ;-) ) > > Can the folks local (or more local than I am ;-) ) pipe up with locations > of pubs or other places where list folk could meet for each of the gigs? > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Wed Sep 26 10:20:48 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:20:48 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 17:19 25/09/01, Mark C wrote: >and Nottingham Rock City on the 7th. BTW there's >a "something and Firkin" pub just around the corner from Nottingham Rock >City. IMHO it's as good as any place to meet there Yep... it's the best bet... just walk down the hill from the entrance... And I'm planning to be there... AND Hitchin, maybe Birmingham too. I'll also re-iterate my offer of digs for any of the long distance travellers attending these shows. Cheers, ChrisW From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Wed Sep 26 10:43:49 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:43:49 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 15:03 26/09/01, you wrote: >Urrrrm, obviously you've never met Mike.... > >KevinSommers Yeah.. it's something like "see Naples & die..." ChrisW >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of iain ferguson >Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 3:46 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: November Tour > > >Mmmm > >either your extracting the urine or you genuinely don't know....... > >I guess you better make it over here to the UK sometime and ask the first >person you meet where to i get a Jar of Ale ... > >On the other hand I could just tell you its Beer. Beer thats drawn from a >barrel either by gravity or by handpump. No mechanical implements used or >Gas >used to draw it into the glass... > >regards >Iain (self professed Beer expert) > >M Holmes wrote: > > > iain ferguson writes: > > > > > Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs in October & > > > November > > > > > How about letting people know which gigs your going to then hopefully > > > some of us will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale > > > > Ale? What's this ale thing? > > > > FoFP From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Wed Sep 26 10:45:01 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:45:01 +0100 Subject: Off: HW: November Tour - Jugs of Ale In-Reply-To: <3BB1EBB6.BB1DA40D@aol.com> Message-ID: At 15:52 26/09/01, you wrote: >MMmmmm NO > >send me pictures I demand to see pictures > >Regards >Iain You shouldn't, you REALLY shouldn't (sorry Mike *g*) ChrisW From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Wed Sep 26 19:33:08 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:33:08 -0400 Subject: OFF: ? Message-ID: I just wanted to thank those who expressed concern for my well-being - I had posted a message to the neo-quark list last week on Wednesday, September 19, the first day I was back on-line, but I failed to send it here so I will append it now. Stephan <... This is off-topic and I apologize, but I think it is easier for me if I can broadcast this here as some individuals have tried to reach me via the list, some have tried at e-mail addresses that have not been functioning, or only working sporadically, others have reached me at working addresses, but I have no computer at home and only access the Internet at work. The building I work in is south of Wall Street and has been offline since last Tuesday - today is the first day we are back up and running, and we are being powered by mobile generators parked in the street below. I and my family are very fortunate that no-one we know directly died or is mising, but many of our friends are not so lucky. I had not left for work on Tuesday morning but saw the entire sequence of events on TV. A good friend and co-worker had just exited the PATH station under the World Trade Center when the first plane hit - he got out as fast as he could, fortunately in one piece. A family friend had just left the dock below the WTC on the ferry to New Jersey when the first plane hit and he and the other passengers wached from the water and then the Jersey shore as it happened. Another family friend has 2 friends missing and undoubtedly dead on the upper floors of the WTC, and a third friend in the hospital with burns over 80% of her body, she is not expected to survive. My boss at work has a family friend missing and also undoubtedly dead. Another friend has a neighbor who is a firefighter, missing as well. The list goes on. I apologize for this downer, but ask that everyone keep the victims and their families in their thoughts. ...> From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Sep 26 20:14:12 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 01:14:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Vinyl for sale Message-ID: BEN'S LIST OF HAWKWIND & RELATED ITEMS FOR SALE / SWAP ------------------------------------------------------ You can phone me on +44 (0)20 7691 3245 or my mobile +44 (0)7980 806488 then we can negotiate a price. Or email me! Most of it is mint or unplayed I expect about ?10 for most of the lps let me know if you think this is too much or too less, Cheers! Hawkwind -------- LPs Hawkwind Friends & Relations Sharp 101 White Cover Hawkwind Friends & Relations Sharp 101 Silver Cover Hawkwind Friends & Relations Twice upon a time Sharp 107 3 copies Hawkwind Friends & Relations Vol. 3 Sharp 024 Stasis the UA years 1971-1975 Gatefold EMI NTS 300 Church of Hawkwind with booklet RCALP9004 This is HW do not panic Gatefold Sharp 022 Out & Intake Sharp 040 Masters of the universe FA 3008 Roadhawks UAK 29919 Hall of the mountain grill with inner UAG 29672 Sonic Attack with lyric sheet RCALP6004 Hawklords with inner & booklet CDS 4014 Stonehenge 83 RTV 12024 PXR5 CHC 25 Quark strangeness & charm CDS 4008 Astounding sounds amazing music CDS 4004 Space ritual huge foldout orig. inners UAD 60037/8 In search of space foldout UAG 29202 Independent Days Vol 2 Sharp 036 Space Bandits GWLP 103 Levitation Blue Vinyl BRON 530 Live 79 202 553-270 Live 79 Japanese with lyric sheet in japanese VIP-6745 It is the business of the future to be dangerous ESDLP 196 Gatefold Travellers Aid Trust Gatefold Sharp 2045 Hawklords CHC 10 Hawklords with Inner CDS 4014 12" Singles 25 Years On Grey Vinyl 2004 Motorhead / Valium Ten fls ep 205 Needlegun FLST 032 3 copies Hawkwind Zoo EP flep 100 Zarozinia FLST 033 The Earth Ritual Preview FLEP 104 Sonic Assassins FLEP 101 Quark (Astralasia remixes) EBT110 Spirit of the age Solstice remixes 4R1T Dave Brock LPs -------------- Agents of chaos Sharp 042 Robert Calvert LPs ------------------ Hype 2 copies SEE 278 Lucky leif & the longships 2 copies gatefold BGO LP2 Freq sharp 021 Lloyd-Langton Group ------------------- Like an arrow through the heart GAS 4014 Outside the law! sharp 015 time space & LLG GWLP 27 Night Air Sharp 026 Steve Swindells LPs ------------------- Fresh Blood K50738 Dumpy's Rusty Nuts LPs ---------------------- Firkin well live, feat. Alan Davey RAZ D39 Motorhead --------- The one to sing the blues 656578 6 All Motorhead CDs available too From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Sep 26 22:47:34 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:47:34 -0700 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive In-Reply-To: <3BB2259A.3DD05E6@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Yep, after a little more research in the 'Dead and/or Dying Languages' section of my brain, you are certainly right. KevinSommers Cogito ergo sum, I think... -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of f. rat Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:00 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: This year's Beehive KevinSommers wrote: > KevinSommers (smiling ear to ear) > Cognito ergo sum, I think... Sorry to be a nitpicker, but I think it's Cogito ergo sum - otherwise it would be "I recognise therefore I am"??? (possibly) From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Sep 26 22:47:44 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:47:44 -0700 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive In-Reply-To: <001101c146be$ee3d2640$1700a8c0@alien8.co.uk> Message-ID: or Cogito ergo bibo.................. KevinSommers Cogito ergo sum, I think... -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Kevin Perry Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:11 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: This year's Beehive Surely Bibo ergo sum I drink therefore I am? --- Kevin Perry The Mountain Grill http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: f. rat To: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 7:59 PM Subject: Re: HW: This year's Beehive > KevinSommers wrote: > > > KevinSommers (smiling ear to ear) > > Cognito ergo sum, I think... > > Sorry to be a nitpicker, but I think it's Cogito ergo sum - otherwise it would > be "I recognise therefore I am"??? (possibly) From hne at INETNOW.NET Thu Sep 27 00:41:09 2001 From: hne at INETNOW.NET (Keith Hopkins) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 13:41:09 +0900 Subject: BOC in popular culture Message-ID: I just saw a TV episode of the series "Witchblade". They played more than half "Don't Fear (The Reaper)" in the last few minutes of the show. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Sep 27 03:21:33 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:21:33 +0100 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Go for the throat"... :-) Cheers, Rich. ** "Does your heroin lose its glamour ** ** on the washboard overnight?" ** > > > Always liked 'Carpe Jugulum' myself > > (seize the throat) > > > I think I've spelt it right anyway...... > > > > (It's a Terry Pratchett book) > > L. xx > > > > > > >>> kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET 09/26/01 08:10pm >>> > Surely > > Bibo ergo sum > > I drink therefore I am? > > --- > Kevin Perry > The Mountain Grill > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." > > > > KevinSommers wrote: > > > > > KevinSommers (smiling ear to ear) > > > Cognito ergo sum, I think... > > > > Sorry to be a nitpicker, but I think it's Cogito ergo sum - otherwise it > would > > be "I recognise therefore I am"??? (possibly) > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Sep 27 03:21:32 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:21:32 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour In-Reply-To: <3BB22754.46BD43C1@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Just a quick point - the Dog and Parrot is now the "Tut and Shive", and I think the pub over the road from the station is the Head of Steam. http://www.theheadofsteam.com Cheers, Rich. > > I'll be at the Newcastle gig on the 14th - I would say the Dog & > Parrot is not too > far (if you can find the Marlborough Bus Station near the Central > Station - Rail) and > there's a pub across the road is okay (can't remember the name > now, but I reckon > they're both good real ale pubs). May be in one myself on the > night, so I'll look out > for other likely gig-goers. Cheers guys. > > f. rat > > Arin Komins wrote: > > > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, iain ferguson wrote: > > > > :Subject: Re: HW: November Tour > > : > > :Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs in > October & > > :November > > : > > :How about letting people know which gigs your going to then > hopefully some of us > > :will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale and whatever > else comes our > > :way > > : > > :regards > > :Iain > > : > > :Currently going to:- > > :London RFH - 10th Oct > > :Swindon - 3rd Nov > > :Cardiff - 16th Nov > > :Dublin 26th Nov > > > > Well, I'm planning on being over between 7 nov. and 26 nov., which means > > I'm probably going to be at: > > > > Nottingham - 7th nov. > > Birmingham - 8th nov. > > Manchester - 10th nov. > > Liverpool - 11th nov. > > Glasgow - 12th nov. > > Edinburgh - 13th nov. > > Newcastle - 14th nov. > > Cardiff - 16th nov. > > Hitchin - 17th nov. > > Poole - 18th nov. (btw, where is this one?) > > Salisbury - 19th nov. > > Torquay - 20th nov. > > Brighton - 21st nov. > > Walthamstow - 24th nov. > > > > (if I can keep the schedule that is ;-) ) > > > > Can the folks local (or more local than I am ;-) ) pipe up with > locations > > of pubs or other places where list folk could meet for each of the gigs? > > > > Arin > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Thu Sep 27 05:09:32 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 05:09:32 -0400 Subject: November Gigs - Glasgow and Edinburgh Newcastle Message-ID: Goint to Edinburgh, Glasgow, Newcastle (although not in that order) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:48:47 +0100 From: dave hall Subject: November Gigs - Glasgow and Edinburgh Going to both - a last call for a pint? Dave From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 27 06:10:01 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:10:01 +0100 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive In-Reply-To: f. rat's message of Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:59:39 +0100 Message-ID: f. rat writes: > Sorry to be a nitpicker, but I think it's Cogito ergo sum Nah, it's Borntogo Ergo Sum. FoFP From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Sep 27 06:18:55 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:18:55 +0100 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > f. rat writes: > > > Sorry to be a nitpicker, but I think it's Cogito ergo sum > > Nah, it's Borntogo Ergo Sum. Mea maxima gulpa in your case Mike :-) From bwaje at CLARANET.FR Thu Sep 27 06:11:57 2001 From: bwaje at CLARANET.FR (bwaje) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:11:57 +0200 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive In-Reply-To: <200109271010.LAA00944@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Good motto! I propose also "folcoventus ergo sum" At 11:10 27/09/2001 +0100, you wrote: >f. rat writes: > > > Sorry to be a nitpicker, but I think it's Cogito ergo sum > >Nah, it's Borntogo Ergo Sum. > >FoFP Olivier Boigey 35 rue Navier 75017 Paris Tel : 06 68 22 67 67 From robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK Thu Sep 27 06:30:21 2001 From: robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK (Stuckey, Robert) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:30:21 +0100 Subject: Dead Kennedies? Message-ID: Can anyone remember that Dead Kennedies song on "Give Me Convenience Or Give Me Death" where Jello Biaffra impersonates George Bush Snr talking to Maggie Thatch about starting a war to ease the number of people in the dole queues, I think it had "Bleed For Me" playing in the background? Seems a bit Deja Vu at the moment doesn't it....I mean recession coming up and now Bush Jnr and Blair want a war!!! bye - Rob From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 27 09:47:51 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:47:51 +0100 Subject: November Gigs - Glasgow and Edinburgh Newcastle In-Reply-To: Z E Itgeist's message of Thu, 27 Sep 2001 05:09:32 -0400 Message-ID: Z E Itgeist writes: > Goint to Edinburgh, Glasgow, Newcastle (although not in that order) > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:48:47 +0100 > From: dave hall > Subject: November Gigs - Glasgow and Edinburgh > > Going to both - a last call for a pint? > > Dave I'll be up for Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, and possibly Liverpool/Manchester if I can organise the logistics. I dunno about this "pint" thing though. It sounds a bit dodgy.... FoFP From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Sep 27 14:31:17 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:31:17 +0100 Subject: HW: November Tour Message-ID: Yeah, it is the Head of Steam.... Only been in a couple of times... but it's a canny little place.. Lots of floors.... Layla. >>> rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK 09/27/01 08:21am >>> Just a quick point - the Dog and Parrot is now the "Tut and Shive", and I think the pub over the road from the station is the Head of Steam. http://www.theheadofsteam.com Cheers, Rich. > > I'll be at the Newcastle gig on the 14th - I would say the Dog & > Parrot is not too > far (if you can find the Marlborough Bus Station near the Central > Station - Rail) and > there's a pub across the road is okay (can't remember the name > now, but I reckon > they're both good real ale pubs). May be in one myself on the > night, so I'll look out > for other likely gig-goers. Cheers guys. > > f. rat > > Arin Komins wrote: > > > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, iain ferguson wrote: > > > > :Subject: Re: HW: November Tour > > : > > :Arin & all those travelling from outside the UK to the Gigs in > October & > > :November > > : > > :How about letting people know which gigs your going to then > hopefully some of us > > :will get to meet you before hand for a jar of ale and whatever > else comes our > > :way > > : > > :regards > > :Iain > > : > > :Currently going to:- > > :London RFH - 10th Oct > > :Swindon - 3rd Nov > > :Cardiff - 16th Nov > > :Dublin 26th Nov > > > > Well, I'm planning on being over between 7 nov. and 26 nov., which means > > I'm probably going to be at: > > > > Nottingham - 7th nov. > > Birmingham - 8th nov. > > Manchester - 10th nov. > > Liverpool - 11th nov. > > Glasgow - 12th nov. > > Edinburgh - 13th nov. > > Newcastle - 14th nov. > > Cardiff - 16th nov. > > Hitchin - 17th nov. > > Poole - 18th nov. (btw, where is this one?) > > Salisbury - 19th nov. > > Torquay - 20th nov. > > Brighton - 21st nov. > > Walthamstow - 24th nov. > > > > (if I can keep the schedule that is ;-) ) > > > > Can the folks local (or more local than I am ;-) ) pipe up with > locations > > of pubs or other places where list folk could meet for each of the gigs? > > > > Arin > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Sep 27 14:32:43 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:32:43 +0100 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive Message-ID: "Go for the throa"t?? What about "Carpe Diem" then.... Isn't that "Seize the Day"? Not, "Go for the day"...... surely.. cause that just don't make no sense boy! layla. >>> rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK 09/27/01 08:21am >>> "Go for the throat"... :-) Cheers, Rich. ** "Does your heroin lose its glamour ** ** on the washboard overnight?" ** > > > Always liked 'Carpe Jugulum' myself > > (seize the throat) > > > I think I've spelt it right anyway...... > > > > (It's a Terry Pratchett book) > > L. xx > > > > > > >>> kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET 09/26/01 08:10pm >>> > Surely > > Bibo ergo sum > > I drink therefore I am? > > --- > Kevin Perry > The Mountain Grill > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." > > > > KevinSommers wrote: > > > > > KevinSommers (smiling ear to ear) > > > Cognito ergo sum, I think... > > > > Sorry to be a nitpicker, but I think it's Cogito ergo sum - otherwise it > would > > be "I recognise therefore I am"??? (possibly) > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Sep 27 16:25:39 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 16:25:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dead Kennedies? Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:30:21 +0100, Stuckey, Robert wrote: > Can anyone remember that Dead Kennedies song on "Give Me Convenience > Or Give Me Death" where Jello Biaffra impersonates George Bush Snr > talking to Maggie Thatch about starting a war to ease the number of > people in the dole queues, I think it had "Bleed For Me" playing in > the background? Are you thinking of (I think it's titled) "We're in a Whole Lot More Trouble Now" (or something along those lines) that starts out with Jello's recitation over a coctail-lounge-piano version of "California Uber Alles" and then explodes into a heavier version of that song, updated to reflect ex-CA Gov/President Ronald Reagan (not George Sr., who was only VP at the time ... the DK's broke up before he became pres.) instead of ex-CA Gov/Presidential wannabe Jerry Brown (now my mayor, for better or worse)? Or buy the new CD of 'Plastic Surgery Disasters'/'In God We Trust Inc.' from which the royalties go to Ray & Klaus instead of Eric (as opposed to the opposite on the previous Alternative Tentacles version). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU Thu Sep 27 16:29:45 2001 From: senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU (Bill Bradley) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 13:29:45 -0700 Subject: Dead Kennedies? In-Reply-To: from "Stuckey, Robert" at "Sep 27, 2001 11:30:21 am" Message-ID: Sure, it's called "Kinky Sex Makes the World Go Round" (it's done like a phone sex call. Personally I'm waiting for the update of "Holiday in Cambodia" to "Holiday in Afghanistan"... just replace "Pol Pot" with "Bin Laden" Bill > Can anyone remember that Dead Kennedies song on "Give Me Convenience > Or Give Me Death" where Jello Biaffra impersonates George Bush Snr > talking to Maggie Thatch about starting a war to ease the number of > people in the dole queues, I think it had "Bleed For Me" playing in > the background? > Seems a bit Deja Vu at the moment doesn't it....I mean recession > coming up and now Bush Jnr and Blair want a war!!! > > bye - Rob > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Sep 27 16:44:52 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 16:44:52 -0400 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet Message-ID: Good interview with Wyndorf & Ed Munell here, including gearlists for the performance-inclined: http://industryclick.com/magazinearticle.asp? magazineid=46&releaseid=6985&magazinearticleid=117323&SiteID=15 ... nice to see that original MM members Tim Cronin and John McBain are name-checked. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Sep 27 16:46:37 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 16:46:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 16:44:52 -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: >http://industryclick.com/magazinearticle.asp? >magazineid=46&releaseid=6985&magazinearticleid=117323&SiteID=15 Arrgh! The link split, so you'll have to cut&paste it into your browser's address box ... -Doug From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Fri Sep 28 01:32:29 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 01:32:29 -0400 Subject: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties Message-ID: As others have pointed out, Mick, Paul Rudolph, Jerry, Ade...and let's not forget Thomas Crimble, who played guitar for Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1971 (?) when the Captain was feeling a bit peaky. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:04:11 +0100, dave hall wrote: >The ex-Hawkwind gig in October would appear to be slightly challenged on the guitar department whatt with no Dave and Huw. Who is going to do the honours? Mick Slattery? Surely not, he didn't play a note at Hawkestra. Ade Shaw? I await updates with amused interest. > >Dave From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Fri Sep 28 01:58:57 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 07:58:57 +0200 Subject: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties In-Reply-To: <200109280532.BAA05966@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi, >As others have pointed out, Mick, Paul Rudolph, Jerry, Ade...and let's not >forget Thomas Crimble, who played guitar for Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1971 >(?) when the Captain was feeling a bit peaky. Ade? I think he's the best bass player HW ever had, but did he ever play the guitar with HW? I've never saw or heard him doing this. BTW, it's a pity that Jerry seems to be out of the "real" band. He's a very friendly person and a good guitarist. Any news why he and Ron left/got the boot? (c)IAO D+R From markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Sep 28 03:05:34 2001 From: markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM (mark cotton) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 07:05:34 +0000 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive Message-ID: All these mottos and phrases! Fucti Fineaux what's going on! Cheers, Mark C. >From: Keith Barton >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: This year's Beehive >Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:18:55 +0100 > >M Holmes wrote: > > > f. rat writes: > > > > > Sorry to be a nitpicker, but I think it's Cogito ergo sum > > > > Nah, it's Borntogo Ergo Sum. > >Mea maxima gulpa in your case Mike :-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Sep 28 04:17:04 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 01:17:04 -0700 Subject: HW: Space Ritual Japanese? In-Reply-To: <9oq6k2+k537@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Here's a question I've never heard come up: I was told today that the squiggly design inside the "Space Ritual" cover that is in the section with 'Brainstorm here we go,' when turned 90 degrees clockwise, are Kanji (Japanese) characters. Anyone know if this is true, and if so what it all means? KevinSommers Cogito ergo sum, I think... From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Sep 28 05:05:48 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:05:48 +0100 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No - but that's how Pratchett translates it - and in the context of the book it's much funnier that way... :-) Cheers, Rich. > > > "Go for the throa"t?? > > What about "Carpe Diem" then.... > > Isn't that "Seize the Day"? > > Not, "Go for the day"...... surely.. cause that just don't make > no sense boy! > > > layla. > > > > >>> rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK 09/27/01 08:21am >>> > "Go for the throat"... > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ** "Does your heroin lose its glamour ** > ** on the washboard overnight?" ** > > > > > > > Always liked 'Carpe Jugulum' myself > > > > (seize the throat) > > > > > > I think I've spelt it right anyway...... > > > > > > > > (It's a Terry Pratchett book) > > > > L. xx > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET 09/26/01 08:10pm >>> > > Surely > > > > Bibo ergo sum > > > > I drink therefore I am? > > > > --- > > Kevin Perry > > The Mountain Grill > > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > > duties." > > > > > > > > KevinSommers wrote: > > > > > > > KevinSommers (smiling ear to ear) > > > > Cognito ergo sum, I think... > > > > > > Sorry to be a nitpicker, but I think it's Cogito ergo sum - > otherwise it > > would > > > be "I recognise therefore I am"??? (possibly) > > > From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Sep 28 05:25:16 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 05:25:16 -0400 Subject: HW:November Gigs - Glasgow and Edinburgh Newcastle - Pub List Message-ID: >I'll be up for Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, and possibly Liverpool/Manchester if I can organise the logistics. I dunno about this "pint" thing though. It sounds a bit dodgy.... FoFP> Would someone advise who this FoFP is, as its obviously not the same one I've met. Anyone want to organise a venu-pub list for all gigs, so we know where to be. (As I may manage the Manc one as well). S >Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:47:51 +0100 From: M Holmes Subject: Re: November Gigs - Glasgow and Edinburgh Newcastle Z E Itgeist writes: > Goint to Edinburgh, Glasgow, Newcastle (although not in that order) > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:48:47 +0100 > From: dave hall > Subject: November Gigs - Glasgow and Edinburgh > > Going to both - a last call for a pint? > > Dave ------------------------------ From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Sep 28 06:10:52 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 06:10:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Space Ritual Japanese? Message-ID: just looks like squiggly stuff to me tim KevinSommers wrote: > > Here's a question I've never heard come up: I was told today that the > squiggly design inside the "Space Ritual" cover that is in the section with > 'Brainstorm here we go,' when turned 90 degrees clockwise, are Kanji > (Japanese) characters. Anyone know if this is true, and if so what it all > means? > > KevinSommers > Cogito ergo sum, I think... From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Sep 28 11:06:13 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:06:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin in Bedford Message-ID: Anyone else going to the Bedouin gig in Bedford tonight? I'll be there. Nick From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Sep 28 13:14:24 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:14:24 +0100 Subject: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties Message-ID: Somehow I can't imagine Paul Rudolph even considering working with Nik again. Especially after he threatened to leave Hawkwind if Nik wasn't given the chop. Wishful thinking on behalf of the promoter? ----- Original Message ----- From: Moonglum To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:32 AM Subject: Re: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties > As others have pointed out, Mick, Paul Rudolph, Jerry, Ade...and let's not > forget Thomas Crimble, who played guitar for Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1971 > (?) when the Captain was feeling a bit peaky. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:04:11 +0100, dave hall > wrote: > > >The ex-Hawkwind gig in October would appear to be slightly challenged on > the guitar department whatt with no Dave and Huw. Who is going to do the > honours? Mick Slattery? Surely not, he didn't play a note at Hawkestra. Ade > Shaw? I await updates with amused interest. > > > >Dave From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Sep 28 12:19:57 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:19:57 -0400 Subject: HW: Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties Message-ID: Denis said... >>As others have pointed out, Mick, Paul Rudolph, Jerry, Ade...and let's not >>forget Thomas Crimble, who played guitar for Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1971 >>(?) when the Captain was feeling a bit peaky. > >Ade? I think he's the best bass player HW ever had, but did he ever play >the guitar with HW? I've never saw or heard him doing this. >BTW, it's a pity that Jerry seems to be out of the "real" band. He's a very >friendly person and a good guitarist. Any news why he and Ron left/got the >boot? Not sure what the deal was, but rumour has it that the two Steves are over in the UK now, which leads me to believe that Star Nation may again be flying. Not sure if RC is still behind the kit for 'them' or not. Grakkl (FAA) ObCD: V/A - Fluorescent Tunnelvision From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Sep 28 14:06:12 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:06:12 +0100 Subject: HW:November Gigs - Glasgow and Edinburgh Newcastle - Pub List Message-ID: "Anyone want to organise a venu-pub list for all gigs, so we know where to be. (As I may manage the Manc one as well). S" Yes, says I. I think it would be a good idea for all concerned.... I THINK that I am only going to one gig (Don't all cheer at once!), possibly two...... But.. I am sure most people going would appreciate a pub list.. L. xx From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Sep 28 14:42:39 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:42:39 -0400 Subject: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 07:58:57 +0200, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: >Ade? I think he's the best bass player HW ever had, but did he ever play >the guitar with HW? I've never saw or heard him doing this. Never with Hawkwind AFAIK, but he's played most of the guitars and keyboards on his three solo albums, which BTW all contain many examples of the wonderfully melodic vibe he brought to Hawkwind. On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:14:24 +0100, "Captain Bl at ck" wrote: >Somehow I can't imagine Paul Rudolph even considering working with Nik >again. Especially after he threatened to leave Hawkwind if Nik wasn't >given the chop. I doubt that would be an issue, as Al Powell (who was in cahoots with Rudolph at the time, especially seeing that they played together in Kicks and on the Deviants "Screwed Up" EP after Hawkwind) played on Nik's entire '95 US tour, and is on the "confirmed" list for this event. Not *everyone* holds grudges for 25 years (certainly not Nik - if that were the case I don't think there would be an ICU reunion as part of the show)! And finally, on Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:19:57 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >...rumour has it that the two Steves are over in the UK now, >which leads me to believe that Star Nation may again be flying. Curiouser and curiouser. Even though it hasn't been announced, I've assumed that they were going to be part of Nik's band in Cleveland next month ... (Never a dull moment with Hawkwind "personnel" issues!) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Sep 28 15:40:42 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:40:42 +0100 Subject: OFF: Teapots over London.... Gong at the RFH In-Reply-To: <4uWx1EAHXRI7Ewhi@hermit0.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > GONG - UK Tour, October/November > UK tour starts with a very special London gig with the Orb and Acid > Temple Mothers at the Royal Festival Hall. And as an added bonus this > will be one of those rare, but oh so wonderful occasions when both > Didier and Theo will both be in the band. > > Wednesday 3rd Oct - London, Royal Festival Hall, tel 0207 960 4242 > Info: http://www.rfh.org.uk > ---------------------------------- > > I'm going. Who else? Ahem; two here. Deficit spending but it'll be worth it I imagine... Perhaps we should investigate this fermented beverage some people on the list seem so keen on before hand in a spirit of experiment? Yours, Jon ObCD: The New Christs - _Divine Rites_ -- Jon Jarrett "Two men say they're Jesus, (01223 514989) One of 'em must be wrong..." jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk (Mark Knopfler) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Sep 28 15:53:16 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:53:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: Concert Attendance In-Reply-To: <012b01c0f44b$cec02f80$580fbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > There is a virus about - it's called 'poor concert attendance'. > Over here in the UK we have always had the idea that the USA events such as > this would pull in more of an audience, but this now seems to be so rampant > a situatiion everywhere. > On the electronic music front, an annual event in Holland previously called > Klem, now 'E-live' has been canceleled this year due to poor ticket sales - > 4 years ago they were getting over 1000 people. The partner event, Alpha > Centauri, only got 600+ people this year by getting Rick Wakeman to > headline. In the UK, you couldn't put on the annual electronic music > festivals we used to do without reckoning on around 125 people where it used > to be 300-400+. > On the space-rock front, Alan Davey's gigs are getting better attended but > the average audience is rarely into three figures, low even for some of the > small venues played, while Spacehead and Dr Hasbeen havea similar situation. > Yet Hawkwind still do it wherever they go, obviously the known name that > people put themselves out for. > The theory runs that those of a 'certain age' or income bracket are either > jaundiced of all the small conceerts and only go to big ones - or if they > have to travel distance to the gigs,then the expensive peripherals make it > all too much - and so on. > So, are the up and coming bands, even the known ones, doomed to play to such > small audiences and is there no way of redressing this situation? > Just a thought for all........... I don't think this is the whole answer but I'm inclined to blame the Internet for this. The things is that it's a marvellous tool for reaching the people who care about such and such a band. You know where all your fans are and so obviously you concentrate your effort there. But it's no substitute for getting out there and putting posters up, getting people onto venue mailing lists, handing out flyers, because those people you reach with the net are *thousands* of miles apart and not many of them will go to more than one gig. I think part of the problem is that the net *seems* like such a useful publicity tool that people forget to use the others. The net should be where people go to get information about an event they've heard about, but there's so much of it that the people you *need* to reach, the locals who'll just come to see or because it might be a laugh and they can always go down the pub instead, the people you *can't* rely on to find out by word of mouth, will never stumble across it there. They need to walk past a poster by accident. Of course fewer people are going to concerts because travel costs are going up, and home entertainment is so much better than it used to be and so much cheaper than going out; but I'm not sure everyone does everything they can to fight this. I've never had the time to do it properly myself but I've not seen many other band posters round here since... well, the Bedouin gig before the one I organised, which was nearly three years ago now. That's my thoughts on the matter, anyway. They may not be terribly coherent as I'm falling asleep at the keyboard but there you go. Yours, Jon ObCD: Blue Oyster Cult - _Blue Oyster Cult_ -- Jon Jarrett "Two men say they're Jesus, (01223 514989) One of 'em must be wrong..." jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk (Mark Knopfler) From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Sep 28 16:02:13 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:02:13 +0100 Subject: HW: All publicity is good publicity Message-ID: ...or so they say: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,62-2001334393,00.html All the obvious jokes... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Sep 28 15:58:25 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:58:25 -0500 Subject: HW: All publicity is good publicity Message-ID: Funniest thing I've read all day. Thanks for sharing! Andy Gilham wrote: > > ...or so they say: > > http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,62-2001334393,00.html > > All the obvious jokes... > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com -- "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Gandhi From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Sep 28 16:08:23 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:08:23 +0100 Subject: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties Message-ID: Not strictly true, Doug. Alan Powell was fired for being too funky (found in possession of Herbie Hancock tapes in the dressing room) - nothing to do with Nik. In fact he played on Nik's Xitintoday album. Powell however was in cahoots with Paul Rudolph over the 'funk' issue, at least. As Lemmy once remarked, "Paul Rudolph, ah yes, Hawkwind the funky years...". > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:14:24 +0100, "Captain Bl at ck" > wrote: > >Somehow I can't imagine Paul Rudolph even considering working with Nik > >again. Especially after he threatened to leave Hawkwind if Nik wasn't > >given the chop. > > I doubt that would be an issue, as Al Powell (who was in cahoots with > Rudolph at the time, especially seeing that they played together in Kicks > and on the Deviants "Screwed Up" EP after Hawkwind) played on Nik's > entire '95 US tour, and is on the "confirmed" list for this event. Not > *everyone* holds grudges for 25 years (certainly not Nik - if that were the > case I don't think there would be an ICU reunion as part of the show)! > > And finally, on Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:19:57 -0400, K Henderson > wrote: > >...rumour has it that the two Steves are over in the UK now, > >which leads me to believe that Star Nation may again be flying. > > Curiouser and curiouser. Even though it hasn't been announced, I've > assumed that they were going to be part of Nik's band in Cleveland next > month ... > > (Never a dull moment with Hawkwind "personnel" issues!) > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Sep 28 16:17:03 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:17:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Cleveland Shows In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A19A@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > Steve Taylor is doing the STAR NATION thing last I talked to him in Oct. I > don't think he was in SPACECORE. I saw SUN MACHINE once. They were great. If > it weren't for the singer, you could swear it was HAWKWIND. CHEERS STEPHE What is the status of Star Nation anyway? Trev's last few handouts have been plugging their website more than Hawkwind's ones, but there's not actually anything very much on it last I looked. Richard's kind of busy at the minute, too, I mean, the Captain was suggesting an actual studio album might not be off the cards at some point recently and Kris has said as much on IRC, and there's a full tour. But if both Steves are over here (and why does it take both? According to the sleeve only one of them's musically involved with the project) what else is there for them to do? Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett "Two men say they're Jesus, (01223 514989) One of 'em must be wrong..." jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk (Mark Knopfler) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Sep 28 16:30:27 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:30:27 -0400 Subject: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:08:23 +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >Not strictly true, Doug. Alan Powell was fired for being too funky (found >in possession of Herbie Hancock tapes in the dressing room) The HORROR! ;^) (melikes the Headhunters stuff, but of course does not relate well to Hawkwind) > - nothing to do with Nik. >In fact he played on Nik's Xitintoday album. That's right! Completely forgot about that. >Powell however was >in cahoots with Paul Rudolph over the 'funk' issue, at least. I'm glad that they finally put out those live albums with "Time For Sale" on them, since up until that point I had NO IDEA where the "funk" accusation came from (well, a little on "Aubergine that ate Rangoon", I guess). I've still never heard Kicks (did they release anything? they were supposedly awful), and that Deviants EP they're both on is definitely NOT funky in the least (except maybe for Mick's 'fro). >As Lemmy once remarked, "Paul Rudolph, ah yes, Hawkwind the funky >years...". I don't believe I've ever heard of Lemmy saying anything nice about Paul Rudolph as a bassist (as opposed to Rudolph's replacement ... not that you can blame him!). Having recently heard a 1975 HW live recording, I see his bass playing in a somewhat better light (and he holds down the bottom end well on the Watchfield Festival jams), but IMO he was always a FAR superior guitarist (Deviants/Pink Fairies, 'Captain Lockheed', "Baby's On Fire") than bassist. (And actually, the unconfirmed rumors I've heard indicate that it would be extremely unlikely for Paul Rudolph to leave Vancouver due to health reasons, which, if true, obviously renders all speculation moot.) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Sep 28 16:38:37 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:38:37 -0700 Subject: HW: This year's Beehive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ahem....any answers to the original question? I will drink a pint by myself if I have to, but I hope that's not the case,,,,, KevinSommers Cogito ergo sum, I think... -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:06 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: This year's Beehive No - but that's how Pratchett translates it - and in the context of the book it's much funnier that way... :-) Cheers, Rich. > > > "Go for the throa"t?? > > What about "Carpe Diem" then.... > > Isn't that "Seize the Day"? > > Not, "Go for the day"...... surely.. cause that just don't make > no sense boy! > > > layla. > > > > >>> rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK 09/27/01 08:21am >>> > "Go for the throat"... > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ** "Does your heroin lose its glamour ** > ** on the washboard overnight?" ** > > > > > > > Always liked 'Carpe Jugulum' myself > > > > (seize the throat) > > > > > > I think I've spelt it right anyway...... > > > > > > > > (It's a Terry Pratchett book) > > > > L. xx > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET 09/26/01 08:10pm >>> > > Surely > > > > Bibo ergo sum > > > > I drink therefore I am? > > > > --- > > Kevin Perry > > The Mountain Grill > > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > > duties." > > > > > > > > KevinSommers wrote: > > > > > > > KevinSommers (smiling ear to ear) > > > > Cognito ergo sum, I think... > > > > > > Sorry to be a nitpicker, but I think it's Cogito ergo sum - > otherwise it > > would > > > be "I recognise therefore I am"??? (possibly) > > > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Sep 28 18:03:18 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:03:18 EDT Subject: Off: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 9/22 (no SDNC this SAT) Message-ID: NOTE: No SDNC this Sat (tomorrow). Be back next week. "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck NOTE: I also recommend you stay tuned for Mizzen's program "Audio Alchemy", which airs every Saturday evening after mine, from 8-11pm PST...if you dare... 9/22 1.Dean Roberts-- "A Yard of Birds" (Iamaphotographer comp; Plain Recordings) 2.Hawkwind-- "Psychedelia Lives"/Hawklords-- "Drug Cabinet Key"/Dave Brock -- "Wired Up for Sound" (Friends/Relations Vol. 3; Flicknife Records) 3.Robert Calvert/Maximum Effect -- "Lord of the Hornets" (3/11/86 live CD-R) 4.Voco Kesh-- "Ispepnaibara pt. 1" (Ispepnaibara; Lexicon Devil Records) 5.Pressurehed-- "God's House" (Sudden Vertigo; Cleopatra Records) 6.Cul de Sac-- "The Fraud of Satisfaction" (I Don't Want to Go to Sleep; Thirsty Ear) 7.Doldrums-- "Ascending Copper Mountain pt. 1" (Feng Shui; VHF Records) 8.Vas Deferens Organization-- "Entrees" (Drug Bubbles; Tekito Records) 9.Triple Zero-- "Part 1: pour que l'ame..." (Crypto Sensus; Musea/Gazul Records) 10.Anubian Lights-- "Mokelle Mbembe " (Rare/Remix CD-R) 11.Tree Sine-- "Jump to the Moon" (Flourescent Tunnelvision comp; Submergence) 12.Tombstone Valentine-- "Fleeing from the Perfect Master" (F. Tunnelvision) 13.Census of Hallucinations-- "Spiral Arms" (5; Stone Premonitions Records) 14.Loop Guru-- "Kalibukbuk" (Loop Bites Dog; World Domination Records) 15.Cookin' w/Kurt-- "Soup of the Day" (ST'd; Innerspace Records) 16.Bondage Fruit-- "Old Blind Cat" (IV; Musea/Gazul Records) 17.Farflung-- "Prototype of a Traveler"? (Live w/Nik Turner; Strange Trips Records) 18.Hawkwind-- "Light Specific Data/The Last Messiah" (Church of Hawkwind; Griffin) 19.Helios Creed--"Road Out of Hell" (Last Laugh; Amphetamine Reptile Records) 20.Lithium X-mas-- "Crack Herman" (Helldorado; Direct Hit Records) 21.Mr. Quimby's Beard-- "Marijuana Nightmare" (ST'd; Freaky Fungi Records) 22.Kopeikin/Angelo Badalamenti mix-- "Node"/"Bookhouse Boys" (Shadow Trap/Twin Peaks Series Soundtrack; Falcata-Galia/Warner Bros) 23.Hawkwind-- "Time We Left" (Space Ritual 2; Magnum/Thunderbolt) 24.Hawkwind-- "Came Home" (Anthology; Castle Communications) 25.Blue Oyster Cult-- "We Gotta Get Out of This Place" (Some Enchanted Evening; Columbia) thanks, Chuck From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Sep 28 18:44:21 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:44:21 EDT Subject: HW: All publicity is good publicity Message-ID: In a message dated 9/28/2001 4:02:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, email at ANDYGILHAM.COM writes: > or so they say: > > http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,62-2001334393,00.html > > All the obvious jokes... > > -- Andy > > That was actually pretty funny. Sad though, I think the author is fairly serious. bob From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Fri Sep 28 19:00:33 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 17:00:33 -0600 Subject: "Space Does Not Care" and other shows In-Reply-To: <61.1430d70c.28e64da6@aol.com> Message-ID: The public station in Albuquerque also has a show that plays progressive, space, etc. that you night owls can stream over the internet: listen for "Tomorrow's Dream" every other Saturday morning from 2am to 6am Mountain Time Zone at www.kunm.unm.edu (or www.kunm.org) That's this week; so stay up all night tonight. They open with Hawkwind's 10 seconds of Forever. Expect to hear HW, Gong, Porcupine Tree, Sky Cries Mary, Flower Kings, Marillion, etc. Mark From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Sep 28 19:38:59 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:38:59 -0400 Subject: off:porcupine tree Message-ID: heard mention of a band called porcupine tree a while back... any good?? have an opportunity to buy a couple of their cds;`SIGNIFY' & `SKY MOVES SIDEWAYS'... worth it or not??($8 each & shipping) opions welcome thanks tim ps.you(in general)previously recommended MQB which i was able to purchase and enjoy muchly..hope to see them in november t From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Sep 28 19:44:42 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 00:44:42 +0100 Subject: OFF: Teapots over London.... Gong at the RFH In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Jon Jarrett writes >On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Nick Medford wrote: >> I'm going. Who else? > > Ahem; two here. Deficit spending but it'll be worth it I >imagine... Perhaps we should investigate this fermented beverage some >people on the list seem so keen on before hand in a spirit of >experiment? Yours, > Jon Indeed Jon, hope to see you there so we can get to the bottom of this pint thing. -- Nick Medford From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Sep 28 19:07:21 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:07:21 -0400 Subject: off:porcupine tree Message-ID: >heard mention of a band called porcupine tree a while back... >any good?? >have an opportunity to buy a couple of their cds;`SIGNIFY' & `SKY MOVES >SIDEWAYS'... >worth it or not??($8 each & shipping) Signify - Yes, absolutely! TSMS - Yes also, try to get the US version w/ Stars Die as 'bonus'. Grakkl (FAA) From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 28 20:25:21 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:25:21 -0400 Subject: "Space Does Not Care" and other shows Message-ID: >The public station in Albuquerque also has a show that plays progressive, >space, etc. that you night owls can stream over the internet: listen for >"Tomorrow's Dream" every other Saturday morning from 2am to 6am Mountain >Time Zone at www.kunm.unm.edu (or www.kunm.org) That's this week; so stay >up all night tonight. They open with Hawkwind's 10 seconds of Forever. >Expect to hear HW, Gong, Porcupine Tree, Sky Cries Mary, Flower Kings, >Marillion, etc. Sheesh. I lived a year and a half in Albuquerque and NOW they have a prog show *rolls eyes* Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Sep 28 21:00:38 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 02:00:38 +0100 Subject: HW: All publicity is good publicity Message-ID: I got quite annoyed when I started reading that. Then I realised, he's got a point... :-) Cheers, Rich. NP - Beer Powered Noise Frenzy Live at The Pigeons 11/09/98 - six quid a copy, all profits to Cancer Research, mail me off list for orders. (See?!) :-) > ...or so they say: > > http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,62-2001334393,00.html > > All the obvious jokes... > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Sep 28 20:55:58 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 01:55:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Concert Attendance (long and ranty) Message-ID: > > > There is a virus about - it's called 'poor concert attendance'. > > The theory runs that those of a 'certain age' or income bracket are either > > jaundiced of all the small conceerts and only go to big ones - or if they > > have to travel distance to the gigs,then the expensive peripherals make it > > all too much - and so on. > > So, are the up and coming bands, even the known ones, doomed to play to such > > small audiences and is there no way of redressing this situation? > > Just a thought for all........... > > I don't think this is the whole answer but I'm inclined to blame > the Internet for this. The things is that it's a marvellous tool for > reaching the people who care about such and such a band. You know where > all your fans are and so obviously you concentrate your effort there. But > it's no substitute for getting out there and putting posters up, getting > people onto venue mailing lists, handing out flyers, I don't think you can blame the internet. Bands are all too keen now to let a venue do the promotion for a gig, and can't be arsed doing what Jon says - getting out and handing out flyers, pasting posters on subway walls, telling EVERYONE they meet that they're playing. An example... There's a pub in Stratford (East London) called The Pigeons. It's a big old Victorian gin palace, with a proper ballroom upstairs. As I'm sure you all know, I play in an occasional band by the name of BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY. (Plug, plug - see what I mean - at EVERY opportunity). When we played our first gig, it was planned like a military operation. Our singer runs twice weekly pub quizzes in another local pub (The King Edward VII, Stratford Broadway, fine ales, good pub food, top quizzes every Wednesday and Sunday night - easy, isn't it?) He started pre-preparing quiz answer sheets (instead of handing out bits of blank paper for the answers) with the date and venue of the upcoming gig. The then landlord got a bit pissed off, and asked him to stop doing it - fair enough, he was likely to lose a lot of business on the night of the gig. So Steve got all his mates in to do the quiz as individual teams. When he reads the results out, at the end of every quiz, he reads ALL the team names out. The number of teams who were called "Live at the Pigeons, 11th of September, Beer Powered Noise Frenzy, Two quid entry, all profits to charity, late bar and indie disco until 2am" was quite remarkable. In the month before the gig, if you walked into the Pigeons, you'd be blinded by day-glo posters, bearing the legend "BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY" and all the accompanying details. We had a web site, we pestered the local paper for coverage, we told everyone we met on the tube, in pubs, at work, on web sites and discussion boards. Come the end of the day, we filled this enormous ballroom past the fire limit (300). The bouncers had to shut another fifty people out, and told us they'd never seen the place so full (except possibly, one admitted, when Pauline Black (ex-Selecter) played there.) We had people coming over 100 miles to see us - because of web promotion - , and all this for a band who NO-ONE had ever heard before. I still get people asking me in pubs if I'm the bass player in BPNF, and I've yet to meet anyone who will admit to either: a) Not being there, or b) Being there and not having a fantastic night out. I know I'm waffling here, but this is important. The above is only one example - I've done similar things in Newcastle. (First gig, place packed full of people who had free tickets to Voice of the Beehive on the same night, past fire limits, local mafia getting all their mates to come along...) If bands are prepared to put the groundwork in in their home area and build up a decent following, those people WILL go and see them when they play twenty miles away. Or fifty miles away. Iron Maiden are the classic example of this. They built up a huge following in East London, then slowly started spreading their gigs far and wide. Let's face it, who the f*** (apart from people on this list) has ever heard of Bedouin? Are they local? Does anyone in Nuneaton or Beccles know who they are? No. There's no point touring a band like Bedouin who have a big following spread over the country - you'll get thirty people at each gig. Which I suppose gets back to Jon's point about the internet. There's no point having three thousand people download your tracks from MP3.com if they're spread all over the world. Not if you want to play live, anyway. To sum up, you can still get audiences if you're prepared to put the work in when it comes to promoting, and building up a following in (first of all) your local area. I still see people walking round Stratford with BPNF t-shirts on. I have people email me to tell me that they've see a BPNF t-shirt on holiday, or in their home town of Taunton. Or Sheffield. WE ONLY SOLD THIRTY-FIVE T-SHIRTS FOR 's SAKE! Sticker, flyer, poster, word of mouth, threat. Get people along. Sorry for the long post, Cheers, Rich. NP - Beer Powered Noise Frenzy, Live at the Pigeons, 11/9/98 (six quid a copy, email me off list for orders) From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Sep 28 21:06:54 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 02:06:54 +0100 Subject: OFF: Very OFF. My latest address. Message-ID: If anyone wants any web work doing, give me a shout. (I need to make some money for my wedding next year.) You can get me here, (rich at beerpowerednoisefrenzy.co.uk) or at my very wonderful new address... ducks.that.yodel at stickyourfuckingwebsiteupyourarse.co.uk I know advertising on the list is regarded as bad form, but I just had to let the world know about my new domain name. :-) Cheers, Rich. From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sat Sep 29 03:56:45 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 01:56:45 -0600 Subject: off:porcupine tree Message-ID: They're well worth it. I love these guys. Signify is kinda dark, and has a few strange spots, and Sky Moves Sideways is wonderful. I seem to have a moderately large stack of their music:):) Pam Tim wrote: > heard mention of a band called porcupine tree a while back... > any good?? > have an opportunity to buy a couple of their cds;`SIGNIFY' & `SKY MOVES > SIDEWAYS'... > worth it or not??($8 each & shipping) > opions welcome > thanks > tim > ps.you(in general)previously recommended MQB which i was > able to purchase and enjoy muchly..hope to > see them in november > t -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace In a message dated 9/28/01 4:00:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM writes: > The public station in Albuquerque also has a show that plays progressive, > space, etc. that you night owls can stream over the internet: listen for > "Tomorrow's Dream" every other Saturday morning from 2am to 6am Mountain > Time Zone at www.kunm.unm.edu (or www.kunm.org) That's this week; so stay > up all night tonight. They open with Hawkwind's 10 seconds of Forever. > Expect to hear HW, Gong, Porcupine Tree, Sky Cries Mary, Flower Kings, > Marillion, etc. > > Mark damnit, i'm trying! I have some new speakers, really good ones, but I guess I plugged them in wrong...ughhh... i really, really would like to listen to more web-radio, since i'm always blugging my own. shamefully computer-illiterate...my apologies to Tomorrow's Dream, Beer-Powered-Noise-Frenzy, PlanetProg, Supernova/Alchemical Radio and everyone who's sent mp3's... Chuck From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat Sep 29 09:48:13 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:48:13 +0100 Subject: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties In-Reply-To: Doug Pearson's message of Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:42:39 -0400 Message-ID: Doug Pearson writes: > I doubt that would be an issue, as Al Powell (who was in cahoots with > Rudolph at the time, especially seeing that they played together in Kicks > and on the Deviants "Screwed Up" EP after Hawkwind) played on Nik's > entire '95 US tour, and is on the "confirmed" list for this event. Not > *everyone* holds grudges for 25 years I dunno about Mike Moorcock. I've only met the guy a couple of times so I can't claim to know him, but when he said he wouldn't work with Doug Smith again on anything, I believed that it's quite simply the truth. I hail from the Borders, and people there hold grudges over family generations, so I do have a little experience in recognising this. There's enough of the Borders in me that I admire it, while at the same time recognising that it's precisely what creates countries like Ireland and the Balkans. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat Sep 29 09:51:39 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:51:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Concert Attendance In-Reply-To: Jon Jarrett's message of Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:53:16 +0100 Message-ID: > Of course fewer people are going to concerts because travel costs > are going up, and home entertainment is so much better than it used to be > and so much cheaper than going out; I think it's also that the baby boomers grew up and can't much be bothered with the hassle of anything other than a stadium gig. As far as I can see, generation X would rather pack out a barn for a rave than go to a gig. FoFP From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sat Sep 29 09:55:13 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:55:13 +0100 Subject: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties In-Reply-To: <200109291348.OAA03865@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > I dunno about Mike Moorcock. I've only met the guy a couple of times so > I can't claim to know him, but when he said he wouldn't work with Doug > Smith again on anything, I believed that it's quite simply the truth. I > hail from the Borders, and people there hold grudges over family > generations, so I do have a little experience in recognising this. I've also heard MM say he wouldn't work with Hawkwind again until they re-hired Nik Turner. And yet we're expecting Destruction of the Death Generator to be forthcoming. Things change. (Although the GTP2001 is nothing to do with Doug, if that's what you meant...) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Sep 29 10:02:53 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 15:02:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hi In-Reply-To: <3B4074A7.D3D90AB0@home.se> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Daniel Wikdahl wrote: > OK, I'm back. > I've missed you guys... it has been three years... Dear Daniel, welcome back! Where did you go to, in the end? I meant to reply when you first posted this message but life has been very hectic recently... since you signed off BOC-L I've got myself a Masters degree, a fiance, a two-and-a-half-year-old son, and these days a part-time job and part-time Ph.D. place at Birkbeck in London (though I still remain living in Cambridge). The Ph.D. is thankfully shortly due to go full-time which will be a blessed relief. But how are you? Do I remember right, last I heard you were about to try and get into journalism in Stockholm? Or am I completely off? Nice to see you back anyway, though it must be said, I haven't seen you post since this message but there we are. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett "Two men say they're Jesus, (01223 514989) One of 'em must be wrong..." jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk (Mark Knopfler) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Sep 29 10:03:39 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 15:03:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hi In-Reply-To: <3B4074A7.D3D90AB0@home.se> Message-ID: Damn. That was of course meant to be off-list. But there we are, this happens. Afternoon all. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett "Two men say they're Jesus, (01223 514989) One of 'em must be wrong..." jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk (Mark Knopfler) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Sep 29 10:06:28 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 15:06:28 +0100 Subject: OFF: Teapots over London.... Gong at the RFH In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > In message org.uk>, Jon Jarrett writes > >On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > >> I'm going. Who else? > > > > Ahem; two here. Deficit spending but it'll be worth it I > >imagine... Perhaps we should investigate this fermented beverage some > >people on the list seem so keen on before hand in a spirit of > >experiment? Yours, > > Jon > > Indeed Jon, hope to see you there so we can get to the bottom of this pint > thing. Right. Let's be organised and scientific then, and organise somewhere to convene. I don't even know where the RFH is in London so someone recommend somewhere. Yours, Jon (who has just discovered that there's a really interesting seminar on that evening that I probably ought to go to; and another on the night of the GTP2001. Why don't the Institute of Historical Research *think* of these things?) -- Jon Jarrett "Two men say they're Jesus, (01223 514989) One of 'em must be wrong..." jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk (Mark Knopfler) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Sep 29 10:09:05 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 15:09:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul II returns? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Andy Gilham wrote: > > with Amon Duul II apparently! Wonder who all's included in this lineup. > > Anybody know? Andy G(ilham)...did you know about this? > > News to me - I'll drop various folks a line and see what's up! Did you er, get any information there Harvey? Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett "Two men say they're Jesus, (01223 514989) One of 'em must be wrong..." jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk (Mark Knopfler) From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sat Sep 29 10:11:19 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 15:11:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul II returns? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > News to me - I'll drop various folks a line and see what's up! > > Did you er, get any information there Harvey? Yours, No, but apparently it went ahead with a lineup including John Weinzierl!, and was pretty good too... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From nycademon at HOME.COM Sat Sep 29 10:35:06 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 08:35:06 -0600 Subject: OFF: Concert Attendance In-Reply-To: <200109291351.OAA04463@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Well, I'm not a Baby Boomer, but as I get older, I find I have less and less tolerance for the concert "audience" (if that's the correct term for a group of people who are at a concert for a whole slew of reasons that have nothing to do with listening to music). I'm all for an enthusiastic audience; cheering, whistling, clapping, yelling, stomping, etc. It's the people who are loudly conversing during your favorite song, or the tone-deaf moron who thinks he's a better singer than anyone on stage and is definitely louder, or the drunk guy who barfs on your tarp at an outdoor show, or the dread-headed pseudo deadhead who hasn't washed in two weeks who's hopping about like a non-stop epileptic on speed, or the person who apparently does not have a seat and is strangely compelled to stand in front of you or closer to you than your last bed partner. Clearly respect and courtesy are things of the past. Oh well, I go anyway. :-) Guido P.S. Some audiences are great. The folks who go out to see Hawkwind, Ozric Tentacles, King Crimson, California Guitar Trio, John Scofield, and George Clinton, for example. nextConcert1: Alice Cooper on Oct 2 nextConcert2: L. Shankar and Zakir Hussain on Oct 6 -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:52 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Concert Attendance > Of course fewer people are going to concerts because travel costs > are going up, and home entertainment is so much better than it used to be > and so much cheaper than going out; I think it's also that the baby boomers grew up and can't much be bothered with the hassle of anything other than a stadium gig. As far as I can see, generation X would rather pack out a barn for a rave than go to a gig. FoFP From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Sep 29 13:06:49 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 18:06:49 +0100 Subject: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Andy Gilham writes >I've also heard MM say he wouldn't work with Hawkwind again until they >re-hired Nik Turner. And yet we're expecting Destruction of the Death >Generator to be forthcoming. >Things change. I'm guessing that they must have already done so, considering Moorcock's involvement with the Astoria Xmas party last year (when Nik was most definitely not on board). -- Nick Medford From dahl at AROS.NET Sun Sep 30 01:32:44 2001 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 23:32:44 -0600 Subject: OFF: Hi Message-ID: >>> Damn. That was of course meant to be off-list. But there we are, this happens. Afternoon all. Yours, Jon No problem here Jon, I rather enjoyed your life update. Sounds all good to me. With all the crap in the world right now, it's good to know someone is out there living life and enjoying it. Hopefully that applies to all on this list. OK, now everyone here go do something fun today and if anyone tries to stop you, kick them in the nuts. Brad From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Sep 30 03:52:41 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 01:52:41 -0600 Subject: OFF: Hi In-Reply-To: <001c01c14971$556b1de0$b019adcf@sony> Message-ID: << Damn. That was of course meant to be off-list. But there we are, this happens. Afternoon all. Yours, Jon>> <out there living life and enjoying it. Hopefully that applies to all on this list. OK, now everyone here go do something fun today and if anyone tries to stop you, kick them in the nuts. Brad>> seconded - go Jon- it's 1:00am, the zillion Hawk Lp's clogging the couch-front FINALLY bulldozed into better temporary stash places, and while the devil may be attempting to make me less than happy with a possible new stub on the jacket of (all damn things to need another) my best? copy of Anthology Vol. 2..... I have the spiritual right to ease my nerves with this 12 pack of Heineken , and settle in with possible impending police calls after a long cold music room tuneless nuclear winter due to the volume output of this nice little OFFICIAL MAXIMUM EFFECT CD "LIVE AT THE KINGS HEAD FULHAM June 4 1986" - this is a PROMO COPY (sort of) ONE-OFF WITH HOUSEFLYS ALL OVER THE ART........it's on STEREO records label..... BEFITTING It does also include a tiny ladybug on the bottom right hand corner...... maybe to counteract the flys? some of you have beautiful women at your side, me , just thankful to be alive with beer, enough wacky tabaccy(sp?) to twist one (or 4), and a wobbly drink partner...(and Max Effect to Maxxx out) bye bye now mike c From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Sep 30 12:24:20 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:24:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hi Message-ID: been doing that for 30 years and don't intend to stop now (having fun that is, not kicking people in the nuts!!) Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Dahl" To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 6:32 AM Subject: OFF: Hi > OK, now everyone here go do something fun today and if anyone tries to stop > you, kick them in the nuts. > > Brad From novadrive at HOME.COM Sun Sep 30 14:48:17 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 11:48:17 -0700 Subject: HW: HawkTattoos Message-ID: I'm thinking of making a web page devoted to Hawkwind-inspired tattoos, if there is enough response. If you would like to appear on it, please send me (off-list, of course) pictures of your Blue Skin........ KevinSommers Cogito ergo sum, I think... From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Sep 30 15:52:14 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:52:14 +0100 Subject: November Gigs - Glasgow and Edinburgh Newcastle Message-ID: Do you take a drink, then? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Z E Itgeist To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 27 September 2001 10:10 Subject: November Gigs - Glasgow and Edinburgh Newcastle >Goint to Edinburgh, Glasgow, Newcastle (although not in that order) > > > >Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:48:47 +0100 >From: dave hall >Subject: November Gigs - Glasgow and Edinburgh > >Going to both - a last call for a pint? > >Dave > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Sep 30 15:56:25 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:56:25 +0100 Subject: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties Message-ID: I think that there is a lot of wishful thinking going on!! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 28 September 2001 18:23 Subject: Re: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties >Somehow I can't imagine Paul Rudolph even considering working with Nik >again. Especially after he threatened to leave Hawkwind if Nik wasn't given >the chop. > >Wishful thinking on behalf of the promoter? > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Moonglum >To: >Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:32 AM >Subject: Re: HW; Greasy Truckers 2001 - guitar duties > > >> As others have pointed out, Mick, Paul Rudolph, Jerry, Ade...and let's not >> forget Thomas Crimble, who played guitar for Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1971 >> (?) when the Captain was feeling a bit peaky. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:04:11 +0100, dave hall >> wrote: >> >> >The ex-Hawkwind gig in October would appear to be slightly challenged on >> the guitar department whatt with no Dave and Huw. Who is going to do the >> honours? Mick Slattery? Surely not, he didn't play a note at Hawkestra. >Ade >> Shaw? I await updates with amused interest. >> > >> >Dave > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Sep 30 19:41:43 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:41:43 -0600 Subject: OFF: Low In-Reply-To: Message-ID: it occured to me I shouldn't post anymore until I take care of bus. I've felt dumb evertime I send one for quite a while have a nice sunday, and if I can shut up I'll be back someday if I can help it will still be reading all the posts however. if I have anything valid to share, maybe someone will pass it on for me mike c ps- I think the new Brock solo is out very very soon, as in this week?