From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Tue May 1 03:12:59 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 03:12:59 -0400 Subject: FW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Hello, One was Paul Hayles, in the late 70's he stepped in for Simon House on the US tour after he upped sticks to join a certain MR Bowie. The second was Keith Hale who in the 80's replaced Tim Blake after Twink (a roadie??) had filled in when Tim left half way through a tour. Keith Hale left at the same time as Ginger Baker. They went on to form Ginger Baker's Hawkwind (with Trimmer and Jenkins??) which toured Italy. This is according to the legend of Sounds (a long gone UK music weekly). Does anybody know if this group is still stuck touring Italy with Ron Bacardi and Nipper the dog!! Mark On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:22:55 -0400, ejobson wrote: >Come to think of it weren't there to Keith Hayles/Hales? > >The one I didn't rate was the 1980 fill in for Tim Blake with dodgy >Dangerous Visons. I thought the one in Sonic Assasins '77 was okay unless it >was the same one? Bernhard help? Don't know how much of that synth stuff >from SA Over the Top was Dave though? > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 1 03:20:11 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:50:11 +0930 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: What scent did you get?? .... > I think I got mine back in 73, along with the band onstage panorama poster. > Recall that if you bought both you got a discount.....plus a joss stick. > > GARY From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue May 1 04:32:26 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 02:32:26 -0600 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... In-Reply-To: <000d01c0d20f$29ce4420$3ecb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: gary (+ anna) : "I think I got mine back in 73, along with the band onstage panoramaposter. Recall that if you bought both you got a discount.....plus a joss stick." dear Gary.... would that "panaroma" poster be like the japaneese on-stage 72 shot poster (space rit), or like roadhawks inner gatefold???? mike c From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 1 06:17:58 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 06:17:58 -0400 Subject: FW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: On Tue, 1 May 2001 03:12:59 -0400, Mark Von Bargen wrote: >Hello, > >One was Paul Hayles, in the late 70's he stepped in for Simon House on the >US tour after he upped sticks to join a certain MR Bowie. > >The second was Keith Hale who in the 80's replaced Tim Blake after Twink (a >roadie??) had filled in when Tim left half way through a tour. > >Keith Hale left at the same time as Ginger Baker. They went on to form >Ginger Baker's Hawkwind (with Trimmer and Jenkins??) which toured Italy. >This is according to the legend of Sounds (a long gone UK music weekly). >Does anybody know if this group is still stuck touring Italy with Ron >Bacardi and Nipper the dog!! > Unfortunately, Nipper went to the great kennel in the sky many years ago. From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue May 1 06:49:01 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 06:49:01 -0400 Subject: FW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: On Tue, 1 May 2001 06:17:58 -0400, Colin Allen wrote: >Unfortunately, Nipper went to the great kennel in the sky many years ago. I found this story about G.Baker and said dog in a Roy Harper interview... Roy was playing Glastonbury and this is what happened... 'I was headlining the Friday night and Ginger Baker forced himself on to the bill. Eee Christ. Anyway, Ginger turns up and I've never seen anybody as completely out of it as that. You can't say he was on anything but you can definitely say that he'd been on everything at some point in the not too distant past. Everything. 'He had this whippet and he just kept on saying. 'Ere, where's my f---ing dog? 'Ere, where's my f---ing dog? And the only other thing he said all day was , 'Ere I'm Ginger Baker, I am. I'm Ginger Baker....Where's my f---ing dog?' That was all he said. Every time the dog appeared it was cowering, poor bastard. You just knew that dog got kicked regularly. 'Later I'm playing the gig, going down quite well, building up to the finale. Then Ginger starts walking on with drums, setting up right in front of me, destroying everything. I couldn't believe it. So I left the microphone and said 'Hey, what you doing?' And he said, 'F--- off, you've been on here to f---ing long, you c---' and his band started bringing all their gear on. 'So I started to seethe, nudged one of his drums with my left foot and he lunged at me. I just burst, turned round and gave him one right in the guts. Ginger goes, 'Urrgghh you c----.' Then we were fighting and the stage was full of people. I completely flipped my lid.' ' There we were at a festival dedicated to peace and love man and I hit someone. He may have been the thickest idiot at the festival but I'd actually hit him. After that I was filled with frantic remorse and basically just wanted to hit everyone, everything I could lay my bloody hands on.' 'So they got hold of my arms and carried me off, looking like I'm ripe for Broadmore, wearing this human straightjacket, screaming 'You f---ing bastards. 'I'd lost it altogether, I was fighting f---ing mad.' 'Meanwhile Ginger set up and started playing and the crowd started stoning him. And he got a bottle in his face or a large stone and they carted him off to the hospital. There was blood all over him. Needed 12 stitches. So I had to chuckle afterwards, mainly about the state I'd got in but it did seem to balance out the furore. But fancy ending up like that. Love and peace man became a raging f---ing battle.' Those were the days eh. Nick M From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Tue May 1 08:48:09 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:48:09 -0400 Subject: BOC: Stalk-Forrest Group CD here Message-ID: > Got mine too. Listening to it reminds me of the Grateful Dead at times. > This is just to cool. BTW, my CD numbers are: 1226 and 1227. Don't worry, > one is being placed aside in case something should ever happen to the other > one. Got mine - #1133. The sound quality on this CD is incredible - probably better than it could have been in 1970 on vinyl. > > Flipping throught the booklet, I am impressed: this is how an archive > > release should be done! Incredible stuff - kudos go especially to Bolle for making sure stuff got done right! > > PS: Even our very own FAQ man, John, gets a URL in the booklet! This totally blew me away when I saw that - my website in a "BOC album" - how cool is that?!?! John > > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue May 1 08:49:16 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:49:16 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse Of The Hidden Mirror review Message-ID: Someone spotted the Stalk-Forrest group "NP" in a posting I made to another list and sent me a link to an advance review of the upcoming BOC album, _Curse of the Hidden Mirror_. I don't know if it's been posted here before, but I thought I'd pass it along: http://www.classicrockrevisited.com/curse_of_the_hidden_mirror.htm Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue May 1 09:03:15 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:03:15 -0400 Subject: BOC: Stalk-Forrest Group CD here In-Reply-To: <3AEEB082.5A7CC5F7@mitre.org> Message-ID: >>> PS: Even our very own FAQ man, John, gets a URL in the booklet! > > This totally blew me away when I saw that - my website in a "BOC album" > - how cool is that?!?! > > John Just for old time's sake, if I send you 50 cents will you mail me the FAQ on old lined printer paper? ;-) Brian P.S. Have you heard anything more about the Helen Wheels Tribute CD or gig? -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue May 1 09:14:18 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:14:18 EDT Subject: BOC: Curse Of The Hidden Mirror review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1 May 2001, at 8:49, Paul Mather wrote: > Someone spotted the Stalk-Forrest group "NP" in a posting I made to > another list and sent me a link to an advance review of the upcoming > BOC album, _Curse of the Hidden Mirror_. I don't know if it's been > posted here before, but I thought I'd pass it along: > > http://www.classicrockrevisited.com/curse_of_the_hidden_mirror.htm > Yeah, I just read it. The Classic Rock revisited guys aren't exactly brain surgeons, and not too critical either, but I appreciate that they keep their fingers on the pulse of some good bands. My main gripe against them is that they're sort of fawning idolaters, and they do like a lot of shitty bands--but they like BOC, so... theo From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue May 1 09:27:31 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:27:31 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse Of The Hidden Mirror review In-Reply-To: <3AEE7E69.3866.74307F@localhost> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 May 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: => Yeah, I just read it. The Classic Rock revisited guys aren't exactly => brain surgeons, and not too critical either, but I appreciate that they => keep their fingers on the pulse of some good bands. My main gripe => against them is that they're sort of fawning idolaters, and they do => like a lot of shitty bands--but they like BOC, so... I think "not too critical" is being overly polite, Theo. :-) But, I thought at least the review would give at least a vague impression of what the different tracks on the new album are like, so thought I'd pass it along. I have to admit that reading the descriptions of "Like to be Bad" and "Showtime" do not inspire confidence from the lyrical side of things... :-( Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue May 1 09:32:08 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:32:08 EDT Subject: BOC: Curse Of The Hidden Mirror review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1 May 2001, at 9:27, Paul Mather wrote: > I think "not too critical" is being overly polite, Theo. :-) But, I > thought at least the review would give at least a vague impression of > what the different tracks on the new album are like, so thought I'd > pass it along. I have to admit that reading the descriptions of "Like > to be Bad" and "Showtime" do not inspire confidence from the lyrical > side of things... :-( > Yeah, but again, consider the source! I do like their interviews, esp. w/BD and EB... Hey, why didn't they leak an advance copy to the FAQ man instead of those robots? theo From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue May 1 09:42:21 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:42:21 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse Of The Hidden Mirror review In-Reply-To: <3AEE8299.1802.848A16@localhost> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 May 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: => Hey, why didn't they leak an advance copy to the FAQ man instead => of those robots? Um... maybe because they wanted to be guaranteed a gushing review? Nah, that would be too cynical of me... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue May 1 09:46:01 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:46:01 EDT Subject: BOC: Curse Of The Hidden Mirror review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1 May 2001, at 9:42, Paul Mather wrote: > On Tue, 1 May 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: > > => Hey, why didn't they leak an advance copy to the FAQ man instead => > of those robots? > > Um... maybe because they wanted to be guaranteed a gushing review? > Nah, that would be too cynical of me... > No, John would've been honest. Now if it was a new tBS disc... theo From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue May 1 09:50:45 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:50:45 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse Of The Hidden Mirror review In-Reply-To: <3AEE85D9.25964.913E13@localhost> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 May 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: => > => Hey, why didn't they leak an advance copy to the FAQ man instead => => > of those robots? => > => > Um... maybe because they wanted to be guaranteed a gushing review? => > Nah, that would be too cynical of me... => > => No, John would've been honest. Now if it was a new tBS disc... I know. That's why the Classic Rock Revisisted people were leaked the advance copy: guaranteed gushing review. After all, John is subscribed to that "BOC bashing" board, isn't he? :-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Tue May 1 09:51:44 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:51:44 -0400 Subject: Uranium Zone (the song) Message-ID: The title cut from the new Sloterdijk cd is now available for FREE play or download at: www.mp3.com/sloterdijk www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue May 1 09:53:29 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:53:29 GMT Subject: BOC: Curse Of The Hidden Mirror review Message-ID: My 1.7 cents (after taxes): You could have taken the paragraph about Bobby R's Drumming driving Buck, snipped out Rondinelli's name and put in A.Bouchard... I think Bobby's drumming *is* getting better at finding a groove rhytm that isnt a metronome, but c'mon... he don't have the funk (esp. if compared to the SFG that just came out, and Piece of Work by the Surgeons). Yeah, those lyrical snippets are kinda dire reading in that review. At least with an all Buck Dharma production on this CD, it should sounds better as an album than HF -- dont forget that on the latter a few of the tunes were salvaged from sessions done by whatshisface, the manager guy (As cool as Harvest Moon is as a song, it should have been more ominous. A boot version translates the song MUCH better than what came out on HF). Also: trivia if anyone out there has the punk Mag Sarch and Destroy's 2 volume compilation of issues, i think in the first one theres a goodly sized interview with Helen Wheels.. I flipped through it and she made some interesting comments on the translation of her Tattoo Vampire and Sinful Love on AoF. I wonder what Albert thinks of the sound of the SFG CD. on flame with rock and roll. Jason --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue May 1 10:04:09 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:04:09 EDT Subject: BOC: Curse Of The Hidden Mirror review In-Reply-To: <200105011353.f41DrTx17412@shell.acmenet.net> Message-ID: On 1 May 2001, at 13:53, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > My 1.7 cents (after taxes): > You could have taken the paragraph about Bobby R's Drumming driving > Buck, snipped out Rondinelli's name and put in A.Bouchard... I think > Bobby's drumming *is* getting better at finding a groove rhytm that > isnt a metronome, but c'mon... he don't have the funk (esp. if > compared to the SFG that just came out Agreed, BR can't do Al's off-the-wall drumming, but then I haven't heard anyone who can pull that off like Al...But in all fairness, BR is a great drummer, esp. live. My only critique is that he's sometimes a little slick, but always a total professional... > At least with an all Buck Dharma production on this CD, it should > sounds better as an album than HF -- dont forget that on the latter a > few of the tunes were salvaged from sessions done by whatshisface, the > manager guy (As cool as Harvest Moon is as a song, it should have been > more ominous. A boot version translates the song MUCH better than what > came out on HF). right again...I've heard HM live several times done better than HF. Then again you could argue the same for Flaming Telepaths, even though the studio version's a classic. Just that the band is able to somehow transcend itself on that tune. And how about Teen Archer, a simple song that is way, way better live than studio... > I wonder what Albert thinks of the sound of the SFG CD. > I bet he like the way the drums sound! theo From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 1 10:05:33 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:05:33 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: Douglas Pearson's message of Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:39:33 -0400 Message-ID: Douglas Pearson writes: > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:34:15 -0600, Mark Licht wrote: > >Is the Danny Thompson of Hawkwind (80's) the same Danny Thompson of the > >Pentangle? > > Danny Thompson (drums) of 80's Hawkwind is Danny Thompson junior. Danny > Thompson (upright bass) of Pentangle (and just about every other English > folk project since the 60's) is Danny Thompson senior. Father and son. "I always wanted my son to be a musician but instead he's playing for Hawkwind." --Danny Thompson senior. From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue May 1 10:07:13 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:07:13 +0800 Subject: HW: urgent! the question about XC, SB, EC remasters Message-ID: Hi there I found the sound quality to be an improvement on the originals, & you also get some more liner notes with the remasters, as well as (in some cases) lyrics. William > Hello! > I've got opportunity to order remasters of Space Bandits, Xenon Codex, > Electric Tepee on small price. Do they differ from the originals, are the > worth ordering? > > thanks, > Alice > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue May 1 10:12:13 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:12:13 +0800 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: I was just thinking that with all the talk about whether Dave or Nik can use the name that we also have the Spacebrock album which (apart from a few Hawkwind tracks) is really a Brock solo album. I know that some people having been talking about the use of the Hawkwind name on this, so I wonder if it falls into the same category of Nik using the name (though, as Nik has other ex-members, it could be seen differently)? William > isn't it all a bit like the Roger Waters vs Dave Gilmour split down the > middle where both reckoned they had the right to use Pink Floyd - there, the > mystery was why it went to Gilmour as he was NOT an original member of the > band - so maybe it's not as clear cut as it seems. > Andy G.aribaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SHLL (Scott Heller)" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:27 PM > Subject: HW: Nik thoughts > > > > I thought nik was in the hawks for like 8 years or more ... 1969-1975, > > 1982-84, > > > > I personally think that Nik adds a very unique element to the band and he > > should be given a lot of credit for keeping the hawkwind song and spirit > > alive over the years, even though he has penned very few numbers. He does > > not fit well with the current line up but has been a special element in > the > > band in many. > > > > scott > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mr. Dibs [mailto:spacehead at SPACESTATION.CO.UK] > > Sent: 27. april 2001 12:58 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy > > > > > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:46:18 +0100, iain ferguson > > wrote: > > > > >OK, here goes my Fantasy line-up. > > > > > >Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Tim Blake, Jerry Richards, > Keith > > >Kniveton, Ron Tree. > > >( with Martin Griffin, Huw & harvey) coming on to do Living on A Knife > > Edge, > > >Rocky Paths & Angels of Death). > > >With Lee Perry or the Mad Professor on the mixing desk. Plus the > astralasia > > >guys making an awesome dance remix album of the live gig. > > > > > >PS. anyone else noticed that hardly anyone has put Nik in their fantasy > > line > > >ups . > > > > > >Oh and I won't be buying the Nik wind album.. Can't stand his Sax.... > > > > > >regards > > >iain > > > > > >"Mr. Dibs" wrote: > > > > > >> /surely the present line-up fulfills all your fantasies, but just to > > enter > > >> the fray, how about: > > >> > > >> Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith > > Kniveton, > > >> Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, > > Rizz, > > >> Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. > > >> > > >> Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB > is > > >> currently running. > > >> > > >> WELCOME TO THE FUTURE PEOPLE. ONWARDS AND EVER UPWARDS. > > >> > > >> MR. D. > > > > one has to remember that nik was only in the hawks for a short time, thus > > his contribution is not as great as some of the more recent members. > > perhaps this is why hardly anyone includes him in their fantasy line-ups. > I > > reiterate that the only Hawkwind is the current one, and a bloody good job > > it does too, in the face of continued press indifference. (A review of a > > collection of old songs doesn't really count, where are the reviews of all > > the recent shows?) > > I for one am really looking forward to the next run of shows, c u there. > > > > Mr. D. > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue May 1 10:13:16 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:13:16 +0800 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: > > isn't it all a bit like the Roger Waters vs Dave Gilmour split down the > > middle where both reckoned they had the right to use Pink Floyd - there, > the > > mystery was why it went to Gilmour as he was NOT an original member of the > > band - so maybe it's not as clear cut as it seems. > > Andy G.aribaldi > Though Nick Mason was. From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue May 1 10:16:45 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:16:45 -0500 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: what about Rick Wright? What if SYD wanted to record again? It could happen. -----Original Message----- From: William Duffy [mailto:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:13 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Nik thoughts > > isn't it all a bit like the Roger Waters vs Dave Gilmour split down the > > middle where both reckoned they had the right to use Pink Floyd - there, > the > > mystery was why it went to Gilmour as he was NOT an original member of the > > band - so maybe it's not as clear cut as it seems. > > Andy G.aribaldi > Though Nick Mason was. From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue May 1 10:25:01 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:25:01 +0800 Subject: HW:Weird Tapes Message-ID: Hi all I've finally managed to get some of the Weird Tapes CD's &, although I'm pleased with them, & I love the packaging, I have one grumble about them. Well, more than one, but the others are just minor things, such as releasing tracks already available to most of us! What does annoy me is the misprinting of tracks. A previous post on here said that all the tracks weren't on the CD's. This is not the case. The actual track listings on some of the disks (2 in particular) are all wrong! The Dave Brock solos CD has all the track listing wrong, & it omits 1 or 2 tracks from the list. A few of the other disks do the same, & 1 of them also lists a track not on it (I Am The Eye). If anyone out there has plans to redo the covers to fix these errors, maybe they could post them on a web site for downloading? William From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue May 1 11:31:45 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:31:45 -0600 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A99F5C@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: S.Lindas: "what about Rick Wright? What if SYD wanted to record again? It could happen". ******************************************************************************** an Australian on the other list said Syd just did a new album???? and maybe the HAWK crew should all "dabble" in symbolism, pick little "talismans" for each identity, and call ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING HAWKWIND, and just put the symbols all "lumped together" next to song credits per CD....(sometimes missing entire members on recordings) m c From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue May 1 10:34:37 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:34:37 +0800 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: > Paul Hayles and Keith Hale. Wasn't one of them with Blood Donor? From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue May 1 10:35:11 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:35:11 +0800 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Father & Son. > Is the Danny Thompson of Hawkwind (80's) the same Danny Thompson of the > Pentangle? > > Mark L > From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue May 1 10:37:42 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:37:42 +0100 Subject: off : Syd Message-ID: The Syd album, is a re-release of all his material from the past. & includes for the first time Bob Dylan Blues a track never released before. It's not a new one.... regards iain mike c wrote: > S.Lindas: > "what about Rick Wright? What if SYD wanted to record again? It could happen". > ******************************************************************************** > an Australian on the other list said Syd just did a new album???? > > and maybe the HAWK crew should all "dabble" in symbolism, pick little > "talismans" for each identity, and call ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING HAWKWIND, and > just put the symbols all "lumped together" next to song credits per > CD....(sometimes missing entire members on recordings) > > m c From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue May 1 10:37:58 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:37:58 +0800 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: > Thanks for the in depth update. A while ago I saw someone asking about Andy > Anderson. Did this get cleared up? > > I remember him being a coloured guy who did the extra Choose your Masks gigs > in Jan '83 and was a mate of Niks. Can't remember if he carried on after > that or not but he was quite good from what I remember, better in my opinion > that Martin Griffin's rather predictable style of drumming. > Wasn't he also in Steve Hillage's band? From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue May 1 11:48:50 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:48:50 -0600 Subject: off : Syd In-Reply-To: <3AEECA36.7542C55@aol.com> Message-ID: Iain F: "It's not a new one...." It seemed a little unbelievable to me.... congratulations..... I pheel ftoopid!!!! that what I get for not investigating the web site....guess I was having more fun on the Larry Wallis front (my xcuse, stikinn 2 it) So are the rumours we get down here in Texas true, that Syd smokes cigarettes, does paintings, and watches TV with his mom...(like me) mike c From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 1 10:51:00 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:51:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: .>> would that "panaroma" poster be like the japaneese on-stage 72 shot poster > (space rit), or like roadhawks inner gatefold???? Mike I think its a variation of Space ritual, cant quite remember what the inside of Roadhawks looks like. GARY ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: 01 May 2001 09:32 Subject: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... > gary (+ anna) : > "I think I got mine back in 73, along with the band onstage panoramaposter. > Recall that if you bought both you got a discount.....plus a joss stick." > > dear Gary.... > > would that "panaroma" poster be like the japaneese on-stage 72 shot poster > (space rit), or like roadhawks inner gatefold???? > > mike c > From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 1 10:51:09 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:51:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: Pretty sure it was an amber joss stick. Fitted it to my cut out Hawkwind mask and looked a complete idiot! Michael, send us your address.....have something for you. GARY ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael W Blackman To: Sent: 01 May 2001 08:20 Subject: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... > What scent did you get?? > .... > > > > I think I got mine back in 73, along with the band onstage panorama > poster. > > Recall that if you bought both you got a discount.....plus a joss stick. > > > > GARY > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue May 1 12:00:55 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:00:55 -0600 Subject: off : Syd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: re: my comment about Syd.....the comparison about Syd state-of-living, was just on the cigarette + TV part....(and mom's)??? not in painting or "artistically marketable" capability,,,, sorry,,,i'll go home... mike From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue May 1 11:00:39 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:00:39 +0100 Subject: off : Syd Message-ID: Syd, Now goes my his birth name (Roger Barrett). Every year the crass newspapers of the UK go to Cambridge and wait for him to come out of his house and take a photo of him. he's a cuddly balding middle aged man. This happened 2 weeks ago upon the release of the latest re-release of Syd's stuff. One of the journo's asked him if he's making a comeback to which he aparently replied " i don't do that anymore, I can't help you". But then again when was the last time you trusted a journo with anyones quotation, more than likely Syd just ignored him. It really seems like it never happened to him at all, and he's now in a different life, it would be cool if they just left him alone. regards iain mike c wrote: > Iain F: > "It's not a new one...." > > It seemed a little unbelievable to me.... > congratulations..... > > I pheel ftoopid!!!! > > that what I get for not investigating the web site....guess I was having > more fun on the Larry Wallis front (my xcuse, stikinn 2 it) > > So are the rumours we get down here in Texas true, that Syd smokes > cigarettes, does paintings, and watches TV with his mom...(like me) > > mike c From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 1 11:12:05 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:12:05 +0100 Subject: FW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Tue, 1 May 2001 06:49:01 -0400 Message-ID: > I found this story about G.Baker and said dog in a Roy Harper interview... > Roy was playing Glastonbury and this is what happened... > > 'I was headlining the Friday night and Ginger Baker forced himself on to > the bill. Eee Christ. Anyway, Ginger turns up and I've never seen anybody > as completely out of it as that. You can't say he was on anything but you > can definitely say that he'd been on everything at some point in the not > too distant past. Everything. 'He had this whippet and he just kept on > saying. 'Ere, where's my f---ing dog? 'Ere, where's my f---ing dog? And the > only other thing he said all day was , 'Ere I'm Ginger Baker, I am. I'm > Ginger Baker....Where's my f---ing dog?' That was all he said. Every time > the dog appeared it was cowering, poor bastard. You just knew that dog got > kicked regularly. 'Later I'm playing the gig, going down quite well, > building up to the finale. Then Ginger starts walking on with drums, > setting up right in front of me, destroying everything. I couldn't believe > it. So I left the microphone and said 'Hey, what you doing?' And he said, > 'F--- off, you've been on here to f---ing long, you c---' and his band > started bringing all their gear on. 'So I started to seethe, nudged one of > his drums with my left foot and he lunged at me. I just burst, turned round > and gave him one right in the guts. Ginger goes, 'Urrgghh you c----.' Then > we were fighting and the stage was full of people. I completely flipped my > lid.' ' > > There we were at a festival dedicated to peace and love man and I hit > someone. He may have been the thickest idiot at the festival but I'd > actually hit him. After that I was filled with frantic remorse and > basically just wanted to hit everyone, everything I could lay my bloody > hands on.' 'So they got hold of my arms and carried me off, looking like > I'm ripe for Broadmore, wearing this human straightjacket, screaming 'You > f---ing bastards. 'I'd lost it altogether, I was fighting f---ing mad.' > 'Meanwhile Ginger set up and started playing and the crowd started stoning > him. And he got a bottle in his face or a large stone and they carted him > off to the hospital. There was blood all over him. Needed 12 stitches. So I > had to chuckle afterwards, mainly about the state I'd got in but it did > seem to balance out the furore. But fancy ending up like that. Love and > peace man became a raging f---ing battle.' > > Those were the days eh. I was watching Hawkwind at Stonehenge that night, but the next day when we got to Glasters, everyone was talking about it. Of course on the Saturday was the Hawkwind riot (sorry) and then on the Sunday night some prats set fire to the wooden toilets. I concluded that Glastonbury was a dangerous place compared to Stonehenge Festival and sent to Stonehenge until the riot cops closed it down in 1985. I didn't make Glastonbury again until 1989 but I have been to every one since - and there always seems to be substantial amounts of crime. FoFP From micci at SCI.FI Tue May 1 11:38:27 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:38:27 +0300 Subject: OFF:LP's Calvert Message-ID: Hi! >I've got a spare copy of Robert Calvert at the Queen Elizabeth Hall >on CD if this is of any use to you. >Also a spare copy of Test Tube Conceived - just in case anyone is >looking for this. I have QEH vinyl, but NO inserts. What I really want is that poster and badge, so if somebody can help, please contact privately. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue May 1 11:49:06 2001 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:49:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind stuff for sale In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 29 Apr 2001 12:39:43 BST." Message-ID: > I've decided to flog a load of my old Hawkwind stuff. See anything you > like, make me an offer... > > http://www.andygilham.com/hawkwindsale.html Jesus, you'll be unsubbing & living in a cave somewhere next. That's about *all* your Hawkwind stuff isn't it !? Tim From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue May 1 10:38:56 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:38:56 -0400 Subject: ACTION MAN Hawkwind connection? Message-ID: Mr. Shaw said... >I read an Action Man story about a band in USA. >Have their been any written about Hawkwind? >The story is on the aural innovations web site. >http://www.aural-innovations.com >I think this guy used to write for Hawkwind. Roger Neville-Neil (aka Nostra-Rogus) you're talking about, eh? Yeah, he wrote the lyrics for "Heads" ("In glass booths they're wired" really? I never woulda guessed that that's what he was saying!). And to connect up with the Farflung thread, he wrote the lyrics also to "The Raven Ate the Moon." In fact, he was at Strange Daze '99 when Farflung played. For those of you there that didn't know, he was the odd chap in the Secret Agent garb (trenchcoat and hat), which made me think that he wrote that one as well. (I'm not sure, but I don't think so.) He's a really nice guy, as we shared a table at the Sunday night indoor show at the Symposium. He lives in Portland, OR and walks great distances at times to see shows, as he doesn't own a car (or at least didn't back in '99). (I know we had a thread about that awhile back also.) He's the one that turned us at AI onto King Black Acid (from Portland also). Roger is also a photography buff who I'm sure has a lot of tasty photos of many cool groups. In fact, I think he shot some for SD'99 (check our review page). Grakkl (FAA) From StevenTice at AOL.COM Tue May 1 12:22:56 2001 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:22:56 EDT Subject: BOC: Bolle speaks Message-ID: In a message dated 05/01/2001 8:49:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jswartz at MITRE.ORG writes: > Incredible stuff - kudos go especially to Bolle for making sure stuff > got done right! > Bolle IMed me last night and we chatted a bit...here are his pertinent comments on the Stalk-Forrest disc and the other upcoming BOC material: >>I'm all stoked it is fianlly all out. The Booklet is awesome minus a few things that got through despite my proof reading and remarks... so we got the I'm On the Lamb lyric off the BOC LYric Book, even though I did send them the transcripts for both of those versions by Oaxaca & SFG... go figure.... Re: whether he would be doing the packaging for the remasters: >>I had it all planned, but that's not happening, in fact, Bruce Dickinson is doing it all himself even without Steve Schenck's OK, so who knows what's gonna happen there... i'm not evcen sure they're gonna put the blueoystercult.com address on, so who knows what to expect. TUBULAR 1: I had it all finalized and planned and then was given a cold hand, Like, back off... which kinda pissed me off, because I am The Man to make things look right! TUBULAR 1: Schenck told me that because it's all being done in NY and I don't live there, they (SONY/LEGACY) are not interested in having my input... Re: the extra tracks on the remasters: >> the trax were all my selections :-) TUBULAR 1: You're gonna be pleased with the lot... even though the albums won't have Lyrics enclosed nor too many exciting new and or previously unseen pictures.... TUBULAR 1: I wanted all the originbal Columbia promo Adverts to be include along with the presskits and 8x 10 photos that original came out with each album... some of this may happen but not enough... I also wanted them to include all Picsleeve singles from the entire world that we can find and know of... that too was OK, but not complete, which kinda screws up my symmetry there... Oh well... Some interesting nuggets of info in there. :-) Steven Tice Calliope Comics 519 Valentine Hill Road Bellefonte, PA 16823 814-355-9830 Musings Online: http://calliope.terrashare.com/index.html From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue May 1 12:50:29 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:50:29 +0100 Subject: OFF: Record Shops in Birmingham..any suggestions? Message-ID: I have to travel to Birmingham and I've got some time to Kill. Any suggestions for record Shops? Rich W From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 1 13:08:44 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:08:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Record Shops in Birmingham..any suggestions? In-Reply-To: Rich Warren's message of Tue, 1 May 2001 17:50:29 +0100 Message-ID: Rich Warren writes: > I have to travel to Birmingham and I've got some time to Kill. Any > suggestions for record Shops? Plastic Factory in Constitution Street is a wee walk but very good. FoFP From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue May 1 13:08:47 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:08:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind stuff for sale In-Reply-To: <200105011549.QAA21599@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: > Jesus, you'll be unsubbing & living in a cave somewhere next. That's about > *all* your Hawkwind stuff isn't it !? Barely scratches the surface, old chap! There's all the LPs, the 70s singles, and the EMI remasters for a start, not to mention a zillion spinoff bands' stuff... just pruning, that's all! -- Andy www.andygilham.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 1 13:11:21 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:11:21 +0100 Subject: Taliban Time Travels to Twenty One Twelve! Message-ID: Attention all players of the Solar Federation: http://news.24.com/News24/World/Asia/0,1113,2-10-20_1017695,00.html From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue May 1 13:35:23 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:35:23 -0400 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Stalk Forrest Group -- (review?) Message-ID: WElll..... what can I say but.... It's not Joe Dirt's BOC on this album. Andy Winters is a very good bassist for this group, and its astounding how BUSY everyone was in each ofthe songs.. adding something. Even Bloom did that cool scream in Donovan's Monkey. That tune, btw, is qorth the price pf admission for the Killer Kowalski lyric. Having heard this album now, I can understand Meltzer's criticism of BOC being stiff somewhat. The SFG didnt like to stay on one riff too long without doing SOMETHING cool to it. Dig those PHAT Drum Fills in A Tease For Sneakers alllll throughout song and the BAND INTERPLAY during its intese jazguitarisms of the jamming middle. wow. can you say kick out the jams? They do havea Grateful dead resemblance,. but they go toominous places in psychadelia. Thank goodness for the lyrics coming with the album. Thank goodness it came out for that matter! Great vox harmony in St Cecilia. More later when i come down of the rockin' high. HA. JAson From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Tue May 1 13:26:03 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:26:03 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Correct me if i'm wrong but it was Jimmy Cauty not Bill drummond who was in Brilliant. colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alasdair Macdonald" To: Sent: 01 May 2001 00:10 Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > And I believe he was in Brilliant (circa 1984), which included one of > the KLF - Bill Drummond I think. > > Alasdair > > On 1 May 01, at 0:19, david hall wrote: > > > He went to the Cure after HW. Apparently he was thrown out of the band in > > Japan - and hasn't been heard of since. Before HW he played with Steve > > Hillage and Nik. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mr. Dibs > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Date: 30 April 2001 22:58 > > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > > > > >I believe Andy Anderson was the drummer for The Cure before his stint in > > >Hawkwind, though I've no idea what he did afterwards. Maybe someone out > > >there can shed some more light? > > > > > > From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue May 1 14:11:05 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:11:05 +0100 Subject: HW et al: Fuz magazine #2 Message-ID: If it IS Paul Rudolph playing lead, then that has to be some of his finest work. I'd appreciate it if you could check the credits sometime, Doug. Captain Bl at ck ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Pearson To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:02 PM Subject: Re: HW et al: Fuz magazine #2 > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:45:41 +0100, Captain Bl at ck > wrote: > >Agree with comments on Think Pink. But who actually played on it? > > The new Italian reissue includes full credits. It varies from track to > track, but the gist of it is (I'm at work, so no album in front of me, but > I just looked at these on saturday, so) ... > > Paul Rudolph plays almost all of the lead guitar (he's joined on a couple > tracks by Victor Unitt of the Pretty Things / Edgar Broughton Band). > > Twink plays all the drums EXCEPT "Mexican Grass War" which is original > Pretty Things drummer Vivian Prince. > > John "Junior" Wood of Tomorrow plays (I think) all the bass parts (and > maybe some keyboards, too, I forget). > > John Povey of the Pretty Things plays sitar (and also maybe keyboards). > > John "Wally" Waller of the Pretty Things plays keyboards. > > (... and Twink is John Alder - John's all over this album. No wonder they > all needed nicknames!) > > I *think* that's all the instruments, except possibly some extra acoustic > guitar and percussion by Twink & Steve Took. Mick Farren, Silver (Twink's > girlfriend at the time), and others also made vocal contributions. But > Paul Rudolph's guitar playing on this album is MIND-BLOWING; it almost > could've been a solo album by HIM. > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue May 1 14:55:39 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:55:39 +0100 Subject: FW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: This is a true story - I've heard it from another source. I remember reading 'readers letters' in Q magazine once relating to peoples expereinces at Festivals, and there was an account of Glasto, particularly Ginger and Harpo's scuffle, from Keith Hales, of all people. Capt. Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: Re: FW: hawks/fantasy > On Tue, 1 May 2001 06:17:58 -0400, Colin Allen > wrote: > > >Unfortunately, Nipper went to the great kennel in the sky many years ago. > > I found this story about G.Baker and said dog in a Roy Harper interview... > Roy was playing Glastonbury and this is what happened... > > 'I was headlining the Friday night and Ginger Baker forced himself on to > the bill. Eee Christ. Anyway, Ginger turns up and I've never seen anybody > as completely out of it as that. You can't say he was on anything but you > can definitely say that he'd been on everything at some point in the not > too distant past. Everything. 'He had this whippet and he just kept on > saying. 'Ere, where's my f---ing dog? 'Ere, where's my f---ing dog? And the > only other thing he said all day was , 'Ere I'm Ginger Baker, I am. I'm > Ginger Baker....Where's my f---ing dog?' That was all he said. Every time > the dog appeared it was cowering, poor bastard. You just knew that dog got > kicked regularly. 'Later I'm playing the gig, going down quite well, > building up to the finale. Then Ginger starts walking on with drums, > setting up right in front of me, destroying everything. I couldn't believe > it. So I left the microphone and said 'Hey, what you doing?' And he said, > 'F--- off, you've been on here to f---ing long, you c---' and his band > started bringing all their gear on. 'So I started to seethe, nudged one of > his drums with my left foot and he lunged at me. I just burst, turned round > and gave him one right in the guts. Ginger goes, 'Urrgghh you c----.' Then > we were fighting and the stage was full of people. I completely flipped my > lid.' ' > > There we were at a festival dedicated to peace and love man and I hit > someone. He may have been the thickest idiot at the festival but I'd > actually hit him. After that I was filled with frantic remorse and > basically just wanted to hit everyone, everything I could lay my bloody > hands on.' 'So they got hold of my arms and carried me off, looking like > I'm ripe for Broadmore, wearing this human straightjacket, screaming 'You > f---ing bastards. 'I'd lost it altogether, I was fighting f---ing mad.' > 'Meanwhile Ginger set up and started playing and the crowd started stoning > him. And he got a bottle in his face or a large stone and they carted him > off to the hospital. There was blood all over him. Needed 12 stitches. So I > had to chuckle afterwards, mainly about the state I'd got in but it did > seem to balance out the furore. But fancy ending up like that. Love and > peace man became a raging f---ing battle.' > > Those were the days eh. > > Nick M From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue May 1 15:08:08 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 20:08:08 +0100 Subject: FW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <200105011512.QAA27895@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In message <200105011512.QAA27895 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes > >I was watching Hawkwind at Stonehenge that night, but the next day when >we got to Glasters, everyone was talking about it. What, Roy blew out the Henge to play Glasto? What was he thinking of? Any idea what year that was? > >Of course on the Saturday was the Hawkwind riot (sorry) and then on the >Sunday night some prats set fire to the wooden toilets. > >I concluded that Glastonbury was a dangerous place compared to >Stonehenge Festival and sent to Stonehenge until the riot cops closed it >down in 1985. I didn't make Glastonbury again until 1989 but I have been >to every one since - and there always seems to be substantial amounts of >crime. Agreed- and we're not talking non-crimes like low-level drug stuff or little outbursts of, uh, over-exuberance, are we? The atmosphere at Glasto can be downright ugly at times. I stopped going over a decade ago- the last time I went it was marred by various kinds of unpleasantness and at the end of the weekend I was forced to confront the fact that I'd paid through the nose all weekend for a not very good time. Only real positive thing I remember that year was the ubiquitous (in this thread anyway) Roy Harper. People say it's improved though: that the numbers are better contained and provided for, so I might reconsider one of these years. -- Nick Medford From christmu at EUNET.NO Tue May 1 15:09:59 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:09:59 +0200 Subject: OFF: Blasphemers of Sodom Message-ID: ...has been updated at: http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/tubrok.html ...also be sure to check out the Pulp Kitchen at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/ which is linked to the Hawkwind Electric Library. From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue May 1 15:51:42 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 20:51:42 +0100 Subject: Taliban Time Travels to Twenty One Twelve! Message-ID: LoL So They'll be ritually blowing up Hawkwind albums, that should keep them busy for a few years ;-) Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: Taliban Time Travels to Twenty One Twelve! > Attention all players of the Solar Federation: > > > http://news.24.com/News24/World/Asia/0,1113,2-10-20_1017695,00.html > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 1 15:45:20 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 20:45:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Merchandise Message-ID: Does anyone know what the current position is with regard to purchasing Hawkwind Merchandise from the Honiton address? Is it just very slow at the moment? I sent a cheque off to them on 6th March on behalf of someone in the US and have just been informed by him that the stuff still hasn't arrived. I guess things are just really really busy down there these days with the tour and all the administration work that has to be done before and afterwards and all the other plans that were simmering gently (I hope these are going well!) and anyhow the t-shirts have probably all sold out and need reprinting or something! And I'm sure there are a dozen other things and it seems like almost no time at all since the tour......... Still I thought I'd better check to see whether there are other folk also waiting for stuff to arrive or whether I should start finding out if something has gone astray in the post? ta jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Tue May 1 16:25:04 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:25:04 +1200 Subject: BOC-L Brainstorm In-Reply-To: <200105010900.FAA20987@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >>Australia's spacerock/prog band Brainstorm has just released their second CD, "Brainstorm Two, Earth One". http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bstorm/ You can also purchase the CD at Cranium Music where you can pay via visa, mastercard or American Express. Airmail postage is FREE to anywhere in the world. http://www.cranium.co.nz Richard Cranium Music From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Tue May 1 16:36:53 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:36:53 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse Of The Hidden Mirror review/SFG stuff/ etc. Message-ID: > Hey, why didn't they leak an advance copy to the FAQ man instead > of those robots? What a most excellent idea! ;-) > Um... maybe because they wanted to be guaranteed a gushing review? Nah, > that would be too cynical of me... Hey, I'm as much an ass-kisser as the rest... ;-) > After all, John is subscribed to that "BOC bashing" board, isn't he? :-) Heh heh heh... Now now, that was years ago - we're all one big happy cyber-family now. > > Agreed, BR can't do Al's off-the-wall drumming, but then I haven't > heard anyone who can pull that off like Al...But in all fairness, BR is > a great drummer, esp. live. My only critique is that he's sometimes > a little slick, but always a total professional... BR is very much an 80's metal drummer, IMHO. AB is from a different time - much more jazz, funk, etc. influences in his stuff - SFG album is a great example - you don't hear that kind of drumming on rock albums anymore (well, except maybe tBS...) > TUBULAR 1: Schenck told me that because it's all being done in NY and I > don't live there, they (SONY/LEGACY) are not interested in having my input... Well, they need look no further than the SFG CD to see what a difference getting it done right makes - esp. to the fans (not that Sony would give a shit about that). > > Having heard this album now, I can understand Meltzer's criticism of BOC > being stiff somewhat. The SFG didnt like to stay on one riff too long > without doing SOMETHING cool to it. Dig those PHAT Drum Fills in A Tease > For Sneakers alllll throughout song and the BAND INTERPLAY during its > intese jazguitarisms of the jamming middle. wow. can you say kick out the > jams? Les Braunstein did a great interview for Morning Final a few years back talking about how the Soft White Underbelly would jam and do all this wild stuff. Great free-form stuff. However, probably not the most marketable stuff for a record company? From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Tue May 1 23:28:58 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:28:58 EDT Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation Message-ID: Well, by now I'm sure you've read this 1,000x: it's amazing that these records were never released; they're really quite good. Oh, that and: Rhino eally did a great job on the mastering/packaging. But...there's a section in the liner notes that's causing me some concern. 'Meltzer: " They had a meeting one day and said, 'Can we go metal?' They decided no. 'Could we be pseudo-metal?' Sure, let's try. But the metal they played at first was pure comedy, they were never serious about it." Now I'm aware of the concept conscious Meltzer and the image conscious Pearlman's (or was it vice-versa?) hand in crafting BOC's early sound/stance, and I think BOC's best material has always been written and delivered with tongues in cheeks, but it's more than a little disheartening for this fan to read that, after being screwed by fate and Elektra Records one too many times, the band made a conscious decision to try to 'become' a (pseudo-) heavy metal band. And the 'metal they played at first' was a joke to them---what, like the debut lp? Tyranny and Mutation? To this admitted purist, it just kinda sounds like they couldn't make it as themselves, and decided to pretend to be something else they thought would go over better.As a musician and fan, that's just a little disappointing. If the time were different, would they have become a pseudo-disco band? Gaahhhhh!!!!! Sure, it's the music biz, and you gotta do what you gotta do, and I don't begrudge them a 'change in direction'. And I've always regarded them in the same vein as Cheap Trick, who operated successfully as a teen/power-pop band while simultaneously making fun of teen/power-pop bands. In BOC's case, it's obviously metal they're 'using'. I knew that all along; it just kind of hit harder reading it there in black and white. My fantasy, I guess, was that they were simply one of the best metallic bands ever; not just a parody of one that turned out to be so successful, they eventually owned a large part of the genre's history. This, my freinds, brings new relevance to the lyric: '...And the joke's on you'... I can feel the flames already... Bobm From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue May 1 23:49:41 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:49:41 -0400 Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation Message-ID: On Tue, 1 May 2001 23:28:58 EDT, Robert C. Mayo wrote: >... it's more than a little disheartening for this fan to >read that, after being screwed by fate and Elektra Records one too many >times, the band made a conscious decision to try to 'become' a (pseudo-) >heavy metal band. And the 'metal they played at first' was a joke to >them---what, like the debut lp? Tyranny and Mutation? > >This, my freinds, brings new relevance to the lyric: '...And the joke's on >you'... Joe Carducci summed it up pretty well in his BRILLIANT book, 'Rock and the Pop Narcotic' (highly, highly recommended to the very intelligent fans on this list): "Extra points awarded here for hiding behind what was taken to be crypto- fascist fascia when in fact they were all five foot Jews from New York" Make of that what you will ... ... and, while I have the book in front of me, his take on Hawkwind: "These guys are the loosest, most organic band the UK has produced, and by the sound of things it took a truckload of drugs to get them this way." -Doug ceres at sirius.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue May 1 23:51:41 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:51:41 -0500 Subject: BOC-L Brainstorm Message-ID: BOC-Lers - I'm glad Richard wrote since the Distributors link and other links on the Brainstorm homepage just aren't loading. I forgot to mention that there's still one other Planet Prog playlist archived with a song from Brainstorm's first CD! http://claim.to/prog/tablelist022501.html This will probably be the last week this archive is posted since the station keeps only the latest 8 weeks available. Still better than nothing! There's a good Circle track following the Brainstorm as well. Yup - I got to program the last half of this show! Rock on! Karen aka "Bubbles" the Planet Prog Webmaster Richard Stockwell wrote: > > >>Australia's spacerock/prog band Brainstorm has just released their second > CD, "Brainstorm Two, Earth One". > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bstorm/ > > You can also purchase the CD at Cranium Music where you can pay via visa, > mastercard or American Express. Airmail postage is FREE to anywhere in the > world. > http://www.cranium.co.nz > > Richard > Cranium Music From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 2 00:00:21 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 13:30:21 +0930 Subject: BOC-L Brainstorm Message-ID: I've got one of those - good! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Stockwell To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 5:55 AM Subject: Re: BOC-L Brainstorm > >>Australia's spacerock/prog band Brainstorm has just released their second > CD, "Brainstorm Two, Earth One". > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bstorm/ > > You can also purchase the CD at Cranium Music where you can pay via visa, > mastercard or American Express. Airmail postage is FREE to anywhere in the > world. > http://www.cranium.co.nz > > Richard > Cranium Music > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed May 2 00:05:31 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 00:05:31 -0400 Subject: HW et al: Fuz magazine #2 Message-ID: On Tue, 1 May 2001 19:11:05 +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >If it IS Paul Rudolph playing lead, ... That's the one thing I was absolutely certain of. > ... then that has to be some of his finest work. Besides a few extended Pink Fairies/Deviants tracks (especially the Glastonbury version of "Uncle Harry's Last Freakout"), this is the one spot where he *really* got to stretch out like he wasn't able to do as a sideman for Eno or Calvert (or playing punk rock on the Deviants' "Screwed Up" EP). >I'd appreciate it if you could check the credits sometime, Doug. No problem. Like I mentioned before, note that the tracks on which Victor Unit plays lead guitar also include Rudolph on dueling lead (and also note that there's NO guitar on the 3 tracks Rudolph doesn't play lead on). Twink - 'Think Pink' (1970) 1) The Coming of the One 2) Ten Thousand Words In A Cardboard Box (Twink/Junior) 3) Dawn of Majic 4) Tiptoe on the Highest Hill 5) Fluid 6) Mexican Grass War 7) Rock and Roll the Joint 8) Suicide 9) Three Little Piggies (Twink/Took) 10) The Sparrow is a Sign (Twink/Took) Twink - lead vocal (1,2,4,8), vocal effects (1,5), vocals (9,10), drums (all except 6), tablas (1), congas (7), acoustic guitar (8) Paul Rudolph - lead guitar (all except 1,3,9), acoustic guitar (4,8), vibes (8), vocals & percussion (9), bass & chimes (10) Steve Peregrin Took - lead vocals (10), vocal effects (1), pixie horn (1), rhythm guitar (10), vocals & percussion (9) John Povey - sitar (1), mellotron (2,4,8) [Pretty Things] John Junior Wood - bass (2,4,8) [Tomorrow, Aquarian Age] Honk - bass (5,7) [Quiver] Victor Unit - lead guitar (5,7) [Pretty Things, Edgar Broughton Band] Walley Waller Allen - piano (5) [Pretty Things] Silver - vocal effects (5), spoken words (7), vocals & percussion (9) Mick Farren - spoken words (7) Boss Goodman - vocals & percussion (9) [road manager] Viv Prince - drums (6) [ex-Pretty Things] Knights of the Fairy Sword - vocals (3) Pink Fairies Motorcycle Club and All-Star Rock and Roll Band - percussion (6,9), vocal effects (6), handclaps (7), vocals (9) "Silver", of course, was Twink's girlfriend at the time (happy couple pictured on the back cover). No credits as to who the "Knights" or "PF's MC and all-star R&R band" are, but I'm sure it's safe to assume that the latter included Duncan Sanderson & Russell Hunter of the Deviants/Pink Fairies. Does anyone know if "Junior" Wood is the same John Wood who was an Island Records staff engineer in the 1970's (who engineered John Cale's 3 LP's on Island during that time)? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From mail at SUPER-TUNES.DE Wed May 2 01:53:49 2001 From: mail at SUPER-TUNES.DE (Chris Appelt) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 01:53:49 -0400 Subject: BOC: Stalk-Forrest Group CD here Message-ID: Hi there, i just read today about that cd. Where can I get it from. I think it will be totally good stuff. CHris from Germany - hoping to see BOC live soon in Germany.... From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Wed May 2 02:18:33 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:18:33 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Merchandise Message-ID: I'm waiting for something - four weeks now (I think) - I've e-mailed but still nothing. I think we just have to show a little patience and not crawl the walls waiting. There may even be some strange space-time continuum thingy going on - I'll bear with it a while yet. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Jill Strobridge [mailto:jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK] Sent: 01 May 2001 20:45 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Hawkwind Merchandise Does anyone know what the current position is with regard to purchasing Hawkwind Merchandise from the Honiton address? Is it just very slow at the moment? I sent a cheque off to them on 6th March on behalf of someone in the US and have just been informed by him that the stuff still hasn't arrived. I guess things are just really really busy down there these days with the tour and all the administration work that has to be done before and afterwards and all the other plans that were simmering gently (I hope these are going well!) and anyhow the t-shirts have probably all sold out and need reprinting or something! And I'm sure there are a dozen other things and it seems like almost no time at all since the tour......... Still I thought I'd better check to see whether there are other folk also waiting for stuff to arrive or whether I should start finding out if something has gone astray in the post? ta jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From CultJacket at AOL.COM Wed May 2 02:42:04 2001 From: CultJacket at AOL.COM (Chris Martin) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 02:42:04 EDT Subject: BOC: Curse Of The Hidden Mirror review Message-ID: Showtime is not a Shirley lyric. Showtime was to be on FOUO.J Trivers/L Myers/E Bloom Its a great song :-) From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue May 1 12:48:53 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:48:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind stuff for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How much did you accept for the book, Andy? -- Jon From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed May 2 06:16:58 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 06:16:58 EDT Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation Message-ID: In a message dated 5/1/01 8:50:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > Joe Carducci summed it up pretty well in his BRILLIANT book, 'Rock and the > Pop Narcotic' (highly, highly recommended to the very intelligent fans on > this list): > > any recommencations for the rest of us? lol bobm From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 2 06:18:32 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:18:32 +0100 Subject: Taliban Time Travels to Twenty One Twelve! In-Reply-To: Rich Warren's message of Tue, 1 May 2001 20:51:42 +0100 Message-ID: Rich Warren writes: > LoL > > So They'll be ritually blowing up Hawkwind albums, that should keep them > busy for a few years ;-) That's probably what's happened to all the Hassan I Sabha singles :'-( Either that, or Mike Coleman has 'em all. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 2 06:19:58 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:19:58 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Merchandise In-Reply-To: Sam Kirwan's message of Wed, 2 May 2001 07:18:33 +0100 Message-ID: Sam Kirwan writes: > I'm waiting for something - four weeks now (I think) - I've e-mailed but > still nothing. I think we just have to show a little patience and not crawl > the walls waiting. There may even be some strange space-time continuum > thingy going on Hughes Time From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Wed May 2 06:31:30 2001 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:31:30 +0100 Subject: OFF:Re: Hawkwind Merchandise Message-ID: Are you implying that Trevor lives in a different space-time continuum to the rest of us? Can't say I've noticed anything strange about him myself :-). Although he does go on about 'Time For Sale' sometimes, maybe that's what he means. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind Merchandise > Sam Kirwan writes: > > > I'm waiting for something - four weeks now (I think) - I've e-mailed but > > still nothing. I think we just have to show a little patience and not crawl > > the walls waiting. There may even be some strange space-time continuum > > thingy going on > > Hughes Time From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Wed May 2 06:35:01 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:35:01 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Merchandise Message-ID: How much is that? Sam -----Original Message----- From: Neil Ward [mailto:Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: 02 May 2001 11:32 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF:Re: Hawkwind Merchandise Are you implying that Trevor lives in a different space-time continuum to the rest of us? Can't say I've noticed anything strange about him myself :-). Although he does go on about 'Time For Sale' sometimes, maybe that's what he means. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind Merchandise > Sam Kirwan writes: > > > I'm waiting for something - four weeks now (I think) - I've e-mailed but > > still nothing. I think we just have to show a little patience and not crawl > > the walls waiting. There may even be some strange space-time continuum > > thingy going on > > Hughes Time *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 2 06:39:09 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:39:09 +0100 Subject: FW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Tue, 1 May 2001 20:08:08 +0100 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > In message <200105011512.QAA27895 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes > writes > > > >I was watching Hawkwind at Stonehenge that night, but the next day when > >we got to Glasters, everyone was talking about it. > > What, Roy blew out the Henge to play Glasto? What was he thinking of? > Any idea what year that was? It was 1981. Hawkwind played Stonehenge on the Friday and Glasters on the Saturday. I remember that clearly, even though, As Captain Dave pointed out, my memory banks of the Saturday evening were somewhat corrupted by a gallon of organic scrumpy. > >I concluded that Glastonbury was a dangerous place compared to > >Stonehenge Festival and sent to Stonehenge until the riot cops closed > >it down in 1985. I didn't make Glastonbury again until 1989 but I > >have been to every one since - and there always seems to be > >substantial amounts of crime. > Agreed- and we're not talking non-crimes like low-level drug stuff Oh there's always been a certain amount of that. > or > little outbursts of, uh, over-exuberance, are we? The atmosphere at > Glasto can be downright ugly at times. yep, and it can be very fine. > I stopped going over a decade > ago- the last time I went it was marred by various kinds of > unpleasantness and at the end of the weekend I was forced to confront > the fact that I'd paid through the nose all weekend for a not very > good time. Only real positive thing I remember that year was the > ubiquitous (in this thread anyway) Roy Harper. > People say it's improved though: that the numbers are better contained > and provided for Not last time. At least as many (100,000) climbed the fence as paid to get in. The toilets overflowed. The food tents had huge queues. They ran out of water at various points. There was some very risky crowding. The risks of having tents crammed in 4 inches apart with very drunk and stoned people trying to wander through them in the dark carrying burning torches are pretty clear. Imagine being between a line of burning tents and a 12 foot steel fence. Glastonbury in various years has been extremely lucky not to have had some sort of Roskilde type event through crowding. There's also the obvious health risks from litter, overflowing latrines, and lack of water for washing when combined with dense crowds. Sorting out some means to really keep out most of those who don't have tickets is going to be an absolute prerequisite for getting a licence in future. Last time it was clear to even the authorities that things were dangerous and Roskilde has reminded them that they'll be held responsible if things go awry. The solution is apparently going to be a 25 foot steel fence. Given that the 12 foot one regularly produced 150 broken ankles per event, I expect we'll have a certain number of broken necks, but then I may have less faith than warranted in the good sense of my fellow man. Climbing a 12 foot fence is an exercise for the amateur which requires caution. Climbing a 25 foot fence is an exercise only for someone who knows what they're doing. OTOH, they'll also need a good protocol to stop people bribing gatekeepers to get in. How much stopping gatecrashers will go towards removing the excitement of not knowing whether your tent and its contents will be there when you return to it depends on whether thieves are more represented amongst the gatecrashers than the paying public. I'd expect to stop it to some extent but that really organised gangs will happily pay to get in and make it up on volume. Stopping the problems associated with drug retailing (I.E gang driven turf wars and professional villains being around to try to obtain the rather large takings) is probably beyond the remit of the festival organisers and down to the Police. I've little doubt that less crowing would go a long way to alleviating the problems though. Whether turning the whole place into Stalag 13 is the way to go, or simply having fewer superbands there, is probably the only real question of strategy. It'd be a pity if they don't solve it though. Eavis has built up the infrastructure onsite for a really great festival and it'd be a shame to waste it. FoFP From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Wed May 2 07:12:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:12:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Wierd 3 Message-ID: Err... so we've established that Wierd 3 (like most of the other CDs) has the wrong track list. Can anyone shed light on the title of the extra track and provide a definitive list, with lineups? There appear to be *four* tracks after Robot, not 3 as listed on the inlay.... Also, on the Astoria CDR, what's the title of the opening track (before Levitation)? Thanks, Steve Litchfield From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed May 2 07:29:01 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:29:01 EDT Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation In-Reply-To: <200105020349.XAA26682@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 1 May 2001, at 23:49, Douglas Pearson wrote: > "Extra points awarded here for hiding behind what was taken to be > crypto- fascist fascia when in fact they were all five foot Jews from > New York" > Uh, EB is the only Jewish band member, albeit they were, exc. JB, not much over 5 ft... theo From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed May 2 07:57:56 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:57:56 -0400 Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 23:28 5.1.01 EDT, you wrote: >'Meltzer: " They had a meeting one day and said, 'Can we go metal?' They >decided no. 'Could we be pseudo-metal?' Sure, let's try. But the metal they >played at first was pure comedy, they were never serious about it." > If i remember rightly, this blurb was either in Whore Just Like the Rest, or it's in the Meltzer interview on Perfect Sound Forever's website. I was REally, really happy to see that the Brain Surgeons found their way into the SFG liner notes via R.Meltzer's talk of lyrics. yay! fresh as fresh tinned ham Jason From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed May 2 08:28:40 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:28:40 -0400 Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation Message-ID: > Now I'm aware of the concept conscious Meltzer and the image conscious > Pearlman's (or was it vice-versa?) hand in crafting BOC's early sound/stance, > and I think BOC's best material has always been written and delivered with > tongues in cheeks, but it's more than a little disheartening for this fan to > read that, after being screwed by fate and Elektra Records one too many > times, the band made a conscious decision to try to 'become' a (pseudo-) > heavy metal band. And the 'metal they played at first' was a joke to > them---what, like the debut lp? Tyranny and Mutation? To this admitted > purist, it just kinda sounds like they couldn't make it as themselves, and > decided to pretend to be something else they thought would go over better.As > a musician and fan, that's just a little disappointing. If the time were > different, would they have become a pseudo-disco band? Gaahhhhh!!!!! Well, the band that would become the Blue Oyster Cult was looked upon by Columbia as sort of an American Black Sabbath. As is obvious from the SFG recording, the band was going in a much different direction with Elektra, and they indeed made a conscious effort to go "metal" (or "pseudo-metal", whatever that is) because that is what Columbia wanted - witness the creation of songs like "Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll", and the transformation of "I'm On The Lamb" to "The Red And The Black". Albert can lend a good perspective on this (where is the guy these days, anyway?), but he has said in the past that with their first 3 albums, BOC was basically trying to "describe hell" musically. The first album still has some leanings from their earlier days (Sir Rastus Bear, I'm On The Lamb, Last Days of May), but by Tyranny and Mutation, the band was getting fully into their new sound/image. But, of course they must have been a bit not-completely-serious with it. Eric Bloom's only 5 foot, 7 inches tall and quite skinny (I think his full head of hair/beard helped mask his size a bit) prowling around the stage in leather - think about it a bit! As for the "purist" in you, I think you may be reading a bit more into this than you should though - sure, they made a concious effort to write "heavy" stuff - but so what? Buck's always shown a distinct pop angle to his music, and much of that has been worked into BOC. Besides, what they did create was still their creation, even if they conciously tried to write to a particular style. Disco? Well, Albert wrote "Cities on Flame with Disco" as a joke (I've not heard it), and he's explored other musical areas as well, such as funk and jazz. Personally, I just see the "pseudo-metal" music of BOC as a natural progression of the band's writing - they started out playing Beatles covers and surf music, moved up to psychadelic and extended jams, and moved into hard rock and heavy metal, sprinkled in with some pop music along the way. John From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed May 2 08:32:00 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:32:00 -0400 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Potential tBS tour dates Message-ID: The Brain Surgeons are rumored to be going on tour this summer (per their website, Starting in NYC and going through the South and Midwest). Deb recently posted on AOL that Philadelphia on July 1st is a good possibility, and she also hinted at the possibility of a BOSTON date a few days before that. Keeping my fingers crossed, and hoping that Albert will confirm, John From jeanlansford at YAHOO.COM Wed May 2 09:11:53 2001 From: jeanlansford at YAHOO.COM (Jean Lansford) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 06:11:53 -0700 Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation In-Reply-To: <200105020349.XAA26682@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: --- Douglas Pearson wrote: > Joe Carducci summed it up pretty well in his BRILLIANT book, > 'Rock and the Pop Narcotic' (highly, highly recommended to the > very intelligent fans on this list): > > "Extra points awarded here for hiding behind what was taken to > be crypto-fascist fascia when in fact they were all five foot > Jews from New York" Never mind that there was only one Jew in the lot.... ===== -- Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net Yahoo's incessant begging for attention begins here. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Wed May 2 09:26:46 2001 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:26:46 +0100 Subject: OFF:Re: Hawkwind/Trev Merchandise Message-ID: Trevor's rates are very competitive in my experience. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Kirwan" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind Merchandise > How much is that? > > > Although he does go on about 'Time For Sale' sometimes, maybe that's what he > means. > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed May 2 09:46:02 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:46:02 +0800 Subject: HW: Wierd 3 Message-ID: > Err... so we've established that Wierd 3 (like most of the other CDs) has > the wrong track list. Can anyone shed light on the title of the extra > track and provide a definitive list, with lineups? There appear to be > *four* tracks after Robot, not 3 as listed on the inlay.... > I think where it says on the CD "I Am The Eye", the tracks are actually "Cake Out" & "Elements". Not sure which is which though right now. William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed May 2 09:47:54 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:47:54 +0800 Subject: HW: Wierd 3 Message-ID: > Err... so we've established that Wierd 3 (like most of the other CDs) has > the wrong track list. Can anyone shed light on the title of the extra > track and provide a definitive list, with lineups? There appear to be > *four* tracks after Robot, not 3 as listed on the inlay.... > They also list "Damnation Alley" in 2 parts, but you only get the one track for that! William From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Wed May 2 10:01:40 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:01:40 -0600 Subject: UNIVERSE CREATION: "Scientists find big bang evidence" (AP) In-Reply-To: <6.15e4f051.281f0569@aol.com> Message-ID: Very interesting. Ties into lecture I attended last Friday by Abhay Ashketar where he discussed Einstein's vision elevated to the quantum mechanical level. I did my best to follow what he was saying, not being a physicist; but, apparently he knows his stuff evidenced by the standing ovation he received at the conclusion of the talk. Mark L Scientists Find Big Bang Evidence .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Key elements of theories about how the universe expanded and developed after the Big Bang have been confirmed by data from high-flying balloons and from instruments operating in Antarctica, scientists say. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed May 2 10:21:11 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:21:11 EDT Subject: UNIVERSE CREATION: "Scientists find big bang evidence" (AP) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2 May 2001, at 8:01, Mark Licht wrote: > Very interesting. Ties into lecture I attended last Friday by Abhay > Ashketar His wife used to be my boss! theo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed May 2 10:28:25 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:28:25 +0100 Subject: spacebrock comments In-Reply-To: <002a01c0cd70$509d6f20$e1cb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: > I would like to hope that Dave & the boys have some more creative spark > left to spare > and that when it happens it will be glorious. > > Look at their acchievements - (I know I don't have to say it) - but such a > brilliant collection of utterly mind blowing music for all these years and > still going. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 6:13 PM > Subject: spacebrock comments > > > I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think > > whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot of > > people. It is clearly a Dave Brock solo venture, as I beleive only one > track > > (Spacebrock) actually has any real band playing. For sure the worst thing > > Dave has ever put out. I enjoy a few tracks but it really has the feel > that > > someone (I woudl guess Dave) went around and just picked up whatever > tracks > > were laying around and slapped them together. There is no cohesiviness in > > the project and it mostly just sound pieces with samples and some vocals, > > but not really all the interesting.. I really liked all the other Brock > solo > > lps but this just does not do it for me. > > > > I really see the end of Hawkwind...... now......sure they will play some > > great gigs but the last real HW cd was in 1994 with ALien 4....Distant > > Horizons was just several disjointed musical pieces slung together for the > > masses... Don't you think.. I think it's this "Dave and the boys" concept which is the key. If that were the case I'm sure everything would be fine; a band like that couldn't fail to produce something worthwhile just by jamming every other weekend, I'd have thought, especially if Simon or Harvey were involved, neither prolific songwriters but on the nail with what they contribute. But from what little we hear, the band's not much in contact off the tour circuit, is it; Jerry appears to be trying to make a go of it in Paradogs, Alan's busy non-stop with Bedouin and his solo stuff, I mean sure he writes loads but it's all going on his albums, Ron's got at least two projects on the go, lives in Birmingham and has problems of his own. Studio time didn't ought to be a problem considering they've one in Dave's farmhouse, the whole of _Electric Tepee_ was recorded on it I believe, but if no-one's ever using it... Richard and Jerry are the only members of the band near it normally, assuming Alan's on tour as he so often is (and in any case Mission Control still appears to consider Ron the default bass-player), so it's down to them and most importantly Dave to come up with whatever's to be come up with, unless someone is willing to stump up quite a lot of travel money... And this is why we have _Spacebrock_, basically, I think. Now, this said, there is actually nearly enough written for a new album, I think, isn't there? We have a new version of `Spacebrock' itself, `Anna Seed' remains unrecorded, there's the new `Owl and the Pussycat' thing, the new `Earth Calling' could be stretched into a top-class number; if Dave, Alan, Ron and Jerry (and, come to that, Keith whom I shouldn't have forgotten until now though I've no idea how easily he could get to Devon every other weekend... ) each chipped in one song and filled up the rest with the synth'n'sequencer padding that occasionally we love, there's an album and quite possibly not a bad one. But I don't think that The Band as it currently exists can really do the whole studio thing, so we have to rely on a sum of a few of the parts, or just be glad that at least they're touring again, no? Yours, Jon ObTapeofLP: ST37 - _Invisible College_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Wed May 2 11:41:57 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:41:57 -0500 Subject: OFF: HDCD players Message-ID: So does anyone know anything about HDCD technology (and CD player technology in general)? What I'm curious about is the claim that HDCD players can enhance the sound of even non-HDCD-encoded CD's. Can someone confirm or deny this? John Majka jmajka2 at home.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed May 2 10:40:45 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:40:45 -0400 Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: Jon said.... >if Dave, Alan, Ron and Jerry (and, come to that, Keith whom I >shouldn't have forgotten until now though I've no idea how easily he >could get to Devon every other weekend... ) each chipped in one song and >filled up the rest with the synth'n'sequencer padding that occasionally we >love, there's an album and quite possibly not a bad one. Well, I was just thinking about this last night, because I just got the Starfield CD-R (Thanks, A.G.) and it looks like Keith's from Bude, Cornwall, which is just a stone's throw away from Great Torrington, or wherever the hell Dave lives. So he could be a big part of Studio Brock activities I should think. In fact, I don't see why a track or two from Keith and Danny's repertoire couldn't become part of the Hawkwind standard set right now. You know there's plenty of precedence for this. Think Swindells' Shot Down, Blake's Lighthouse (and NJ, and Nati as well), and even Hale's Dangerous Visions. It seems all the keyboardists get their stuff in there. Seems to me that 'Return to Earth' and/or 'Telepathy' would make great tracks to add to the live set. Especially the former, with Richard really having fun on the bongos in the midsection, just as he's been doing on Space is Their (Palestine) for the past five years. And this brings up a question...does anybody know what the official lineup of the band *is* just now? My guess is... Dave Brock - G,V,K Ron Tree - V (B if needed) Alan Davey - B,V (whenever available) Richard Chadwick - D Keith Kniveton - K Jez Huggett - Sax (Member-in-training?) Harvey Bainbridge - K,V (permanent welcome guest) Simon House - Violin (permanent welcome guest) Is this close? Of course, there are other frequent guests these days, including Huw, Nik, MM by proxy, Martyn, Dibs, Blake, etc., but Harvey and Simon seem to be the most regular performers. Grakkl (FAA) From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed May 2 12:59:31 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 17:59:31 +0100 Subject: Taliban Time Travels to Twenty One Twelve! Message-ID: Mike Coleman has them all definately, it's a sinister plot, bet he's got all those copies of Quark with the slides too. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:18 AM Subject: Re: Taliban Time Travels to Twenty One Twelve! > Rich Warren writes: > > > LoL > > > > So They'll be ritually blowing up Hawkwind albums, that should keep them > > busy for a few years ;-) > > That's probably what's happened to all the Hassan I Sabha singles :'-( > > Either that, or Mike Coleman has 'em all. > > FoFP > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed May 2 13:00:37 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:00:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge Message-ID: Is it true that theres an 8 track of Space Ritual? Anyone ever find a copy of this? Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Browne" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 5:48 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind stuff for sale > How much did you accept for the book, Andy? > -- > Jon > From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed May 2 13:04:16 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:04:16 -0700 Subject: Wierd 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I believe Captain Bl at ck has said that on the setlist he had it was something to the effect of "opening instrumental" but on the cover I made for my CD-R I called it "Arrival In Astoria" KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Steve Litchfield Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 4:12 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Wierd 3 ... Also, on the Astoria CDR, what's the title of the opening track (before Levitation)? Thanks, Steve Litchfield From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed May 2 13:15:16 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 13:15:16 EDT Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge//'ISOS' too... Message-ID: In a message dated 5/2/01 12:51:47 PM, rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM writes: << Is it true that theres an 8 track of Space Ritual? Anyone ever find a copy of this? >> ===== could be, could be... i remember a school chum w/an 8-track of 'ISOS'... "<>" From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed May 2 13:17:54 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:17:54 +0100 Subject: FW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <200105021039.LAA14017@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In message <200105021039.LAA14017 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes > >It was 1981. Hawkwind played Stonehenge on the Friday and Glasters on >the Saturday. I remember that clearly, even though, As Captain Dave >pointed out, my memory banks of the Saturday evening were somewhat >corrupted by a gallon of organic scrumpy. Ah yes- I think that exchange took place before I joined the list but I did read it in the archives. The "Hawkwind riot"...it was you wot done it! > >> Agreed- and we're not talking non-crimes like low-level drug stuff > >Oh there's always been a certain amount of that. Get away! I'm shocked. But the obvious gangsterism is a relatively recent development, no? (unless I was just too stoned to notice it in my younger days). > >> or >> little outbursts of, uh, over-exuberance, are we? The atmosphere at >> Glasto can be downright ugly at times. > >yep, and it can be very fine. Sure, I'm not such a curmudgeon that I never enjoyed it there when I used to go! I just found that over the years, the aspects I enjoyed were gradually outweighed by those I didn't. Had a lot to do with the vast crowds and the dramatic increase in commercialisation and rip-offs. >last time. Agree with all the rest of your post, but snipped it for the benefit of our Digest Mode friends. -- Nick Medford From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 2 14:23:03 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:23:03 -0600 Subject: Taliban Time Travels to Twenty One Twelve! In-Reply-To: <004601c0d329$42340840$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: Rich W: "Mike Coleman has them all definately, it's a sinister plot, bet he's got all those copies of Quark with the slides too"... thanks guys, but you overcredit the extra cabin space on the Mothercraft... I didn't get the German Quarks off-earth yet (there's a lot without slides-or stickers).....plus I am busy on the Hassan's...not doing too well... I did, however, manage to kill off the clear 12"er's of Quark....... mike From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 2 14:28:03 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:28:03 -0600 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge//'ISOS' too... In-Reply-To: <6c.a30f55f.28219aa4@aol.com> Message-ID: there are 8-tracks of all the early hawkwind......even differing ones....different country makes...like UK, USA, and Canada, etc... mike From Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 2 13:30:19 2001 From: Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:30:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge//'ISOS' too... In-Reply-To: <6c.a30f55f.28219aa4@aol.com> Message-ID: I have a copy of Captain Locheed on 8 track which got played incessantly at the time because it was the only one I had Brian From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed May 2 12:33:44 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:33:44 -0400 Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: I neglectfully said.... >My guess is... >Dave Brock - G,V,K >Ron Tree - V (B if needed) >Alan Davey - B,V (whenever available) >Richard Chadwick - D >Keith Kniveton - K >Jez Huggett - Sax (Member-in-training?) >Harvey Bainbridge - K,V (permanent welcome guest) >Simon House - Violin (permanent welcome guest) And some guy named Jerry Richards on Lead Guitar also. :) Funny how the recent trio Hawkwind has now become this enormous ever-shifting group! Forever evolving... Grakkl (FAA) From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed May 2 13:51:41 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:51:41 -0700 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge Message-ID: > > Is it true that theres an 8 track of Space Ritual? > > Anyone ever find a copy of this? > I did in fact see this at a record show many many years ago, but I was not yet a Kollector. I should have bought it, as it was only $1 (it was on top in a huge box of 8-tracks, all for $1), but at that time I needed every $ I had for things I could actually play... scorch From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 2 14:04:10 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:04:10 +0100 Subject: FW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Wed, 2 May 2001 18:17:54 +0100 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > In message <200105021039.LAA14017 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes > writes > > > >It was 1981. Hawkwind played Stonehenge on the Friday and Glasters on > >the Saturday. I remember that clearly, even though, As Captain Dave > >pointed out, my memory banks of the Saturday evening were somewhat > >corrupted by a gallon of organic scrumpy. > > Ah yes- I think that exchange took place before I joined the list but I did > read it in the archives. The "Hawkwind riot"...it was you wot done it! I have been known to get boisterous when drunk. It's all in play though, > >> Agreed- and we're not talking non-crimes like low-level drug stuff > > > >Oh there's always been a certain amount of that. > > Get away! I'm shocked. But the obvious gangsterism is a relatively recent > development, no? Way back in 1989 the gangsters had sales reps at every crossroads on the site. Each was accompanied by a friend with a baseball bat and most of them were wearing black ski masks or balaclavas. That, and some trouble from Travellers that year convinced Eavis to allow the Police to patrol onsite. > Sure, I'm not such a curmudgeon that I never enjoyed it there when I used > to go! I just found that over the years, the aspects I enjoyed were gradually > outweighed by those I didn't. Had a lot to do with the vast crowds and the > dramatic increase in commercialisation and rip-offs. No argument from me on that. I've still kept going, but I admit I've considered looking for a smaller festival. Bernhard: what's happening festival wise in germany this year? Since Glastonbury isn't on this year I could go somewhere else. Also, does anyone reckon that the Canterbury or Norwich festivals will actually happen? From what I hear, the government is faking the Foot and Mouth stats downwards so they can have a June election prior to the economy crashing. Presumably there'll then be a surprise resurgence of FMD in the summer. Leastways that's what Hitching (an expert on FMD who just quit to go to Canada) seems to be telling us. FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 2 14:30:07 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:30:07 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Andy Anderson also played with the Steve Hillage Band on the tour of the UK they did with Glenn Phillips as support for some album or other Hillage had just released at the time (Open???) Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "ejobson" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 2:09 AM Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > Thanks for the in depth update. A while ago I saw someone asking about Andy > Anderson. Did this get cleared up? > > I remember him being a coloured guy who did the extra Choose your Masks gigs > in Jan '83 and was a mate of Niks. Can't remember if he carried on after > that or not but he was quite good from what I remember, better in my opinion > that Martin Griffin's rather predictable style of drumming. > > Eddie. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas Pearson [mailto:ceres at SIRIUS.COM] > Sent: 30 April 2001 15:24 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:22:55 -0400, ejobson wrote: > >Come to think of it weren't there to Keith Hayles/Hales? > > Paul Hayles and Keith Hale. Yes, there is much confusion over Hawkwind > keyboard players of this era ... > > >The one I didn't rate was the 1980 fill in for Tim Blake with dodgy > >Dangerous Visons. I thought the one in Sonic Assasins '77 was okay unless > >it was the same one? Bernhard help? Don't know how much of that synth > >stuff from SA Over the Top was Dave though? > > Paul Hayles was the keyboard player with the Sonic Assassins, and also > played on the latter part of the '78 US tour, after Simon House left for > Bowie's band. He plays mostly electric piano on the Sonic Assassins set; > the synth work is Dave. > > The 1980 mid-tour "fill-in" for Tim Blake was one Twink, who is NOT the > same Twink who played drums in the Pretty Things, Tomorrow, Pink Fairies, > Pinkwind, etc. > > Keith Hale was Tim Blake's "official" replacement, who plays on 'Zones' > (side one) and 'Do Not Panic' (first LP), and wrote "Dangerous Visions". > Before Hawkwind, he played on the second album by a acid/psychedelic- > pagan/folk band called Comus. The first Comus, 'First Utterance', > absolutely rules and is highly recommended - creepy as hell (and not far > off from the sound of the Third Ear Band's 'MacBeth' soundtrack that Simon > House played on). I'm told that the second one (w/Keith Hale) truly sucks, > however. > > And yes, I rate Keith Hale as a less-talented keyboard player than Harvey > Bainbridge; it's just as well that he went off with Ginger Baker ... > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 2 14:39:25 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:39:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: Record Shops in Birmingham..any suggestions? Message-ID: It's Corporation Street not Coronation Street, and it's right down at the bottom of the street before you hit Aston University and say hi to Al for me - great shop - well recommended!!! avoid Reddingtons - lousy layout, highly priced and just a pain. Decent indies are Tempest and Swordfish in the center somewhere, but not got the street addresses on me. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 6:08 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Record Shops in Birmingham..any suggestions? > Rich Warren writes: > > > I have to travel to Birmingham and I've got some time to Kill. Any > > suggestions for record Shops? > > Plastic Factory in Constitution Street is a wee walk but very good. > > FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 2 14:36:08 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:36:08 +0100 Subject: Farflung tracklist required Message-ID: Jim's got it I think. Andy G ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 5:55 PM Subject: Farflung tracklist required > Does anyone have the tracklist for the Strange Daze CDR of them playing > with Nik Turner? > > Ta. > > FoFP From wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET Wed May 2 14:24:25 2001 From: wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET (Warrick Bell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:24:25 -0400 Subject: BOC: Origin of St Cecilia/Connection with The King in Yellow? Message-ID: Heyo all, I thought this might be an appropriate time to ask this question, what with the (re)issue of St Cecilia coming out and all. (My copy hasn't yet arrived!!) I was wondering if anybody knows who St Cecilia was, and what the name might mean. I notice that Chambers mentions "Sainte C?cile" several times in the stories of _The King in Yellow_ and as there's already an acknowledged connection to KiY I figured that might be a further association. I don't know if this has already been discussed or not; I've been off the list for a couple of years and didn't see any new mention of St Cecilia in the FAQ. Also, does anybody know if the CBS remasters will be released on SACD? As beautiful as a foot, Warrick Bell From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed May 2 14:33:12 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:33:12 +0100 Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: > Now, this said, there is actually nearly enough written for a new >album, I think, isn't there? We have a new version of `Spacebrock' itself, >`Anna Seed' remains unrecorded, there's the new `Owl and the Pussycat' >thing, the new `Earth Calling' could be stretched into a top-class >number; if Dave, Alan, Ron and Jerry (and, come to that, Keith whom I >shouldn't have forgotten until now though I've no idea how easily he >could get to Devon every other weekend... ) There was also another Ron (I guess) song played at the Whirlwind (Ron, Jerry, Richard with Steve Bemand and others) gig at Bath a little while back - something like Mushroom Head. It was somewhere between Xenomorph and Reptoid Vision in style. Nick From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed May 2 14:45:13 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:45:13 -0700 Subject: BOC: Origin of St Cecilia/Connection with The King in Yellow? Message-ID: > I was wondering if anybody knows who St Cecilia was, and what the name > might mean. Read all about her at: http://saints.catholic.org/saints/cecilia.html She the patroness of music, and is represented with an organ or holding organ pipes. Now I know who to call on when my keyboards are acting up..... scorch From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 2 07:50:50 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:20:50 +0930 Subject: Taliban Time Travels to Twenty One Twelve! Message-ID: Hey Mike You gonna join me & Mike Coleman in our new veunture its a band called MIKEWIND Three Mikes, Two guitars and your regarded musical talent ! :) One of the other Mike's ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:48 PM Subject: Re: Taliban Time Travels to Twenty One Twelve! > Rich Warren writes: > > > LoL > > > > So They'll be ritually blowing up Hawkwind albums, that should keep them > > busy for a few years ;-) > > That's probably what's happened to all the Hassan I Sabha singles :'-( > > Either that, or Mike Coleman has 'em all. > > FoFP > From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Wed May 2 15:08:01 2001 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:08:01 +0200 Subject: Taliban Time Travels to Twenty One Twelve! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nice Rush reference ! ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 2 15:13:21 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:13:21 +0100 Subject: OFF: HDCD players Message-ID: >> So does anyone know anything about HDCD technology (and CD player technology > in general)? Sure do....... >)? What I'm curious about is the claim that HDCD players can > enhance the sound of even non-HDCD-encoded CD's. Can someone confirm or > deny this? In some cases this is true especially if you have an older CD player, but if you have a 24 bit high end model it will just be a case of sound preference. Japan release more HDCD discs than anywhere else, but sometimes they do not specify this on the sleeve or disc. Recent remaster cardboard replica editions of the Doors catalogue are all HDCD. Again nothing on the packaging will inform you of this. With the advent of multichannel DVD audio and the Phillips/Sony puppy SACD, one could be forgiven for thinking that the future of HDCD looks somewhat uncertain. Hope it helps GARY ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka To: Sent: 02 May 2001 16:41 Subject: OFF: HDCD players > So does anyone know anything about HDCD technology (and CD player technology > in general)? What I'm curious about is the claim that HDCD players can > enhance the sound of even non-HDCD-encoded CD's. Can someone confirm or > deny this? > John Majka > jmajka2 at home.com > From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Wed May 2 16:08:25 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:08:25 EDT Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge Message-ID: Oh, about 15 or so years ago, my brother saw one at a local flea market. he said all the 8-tracks were like 25 cents each.... obviously he got shit from me for not picking it up.. bob In a message dated 5/2/01 12:51:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > Is it true that theres an 8 track of Space Ritual? > > Anyone ever find a copy of this? > > Rich W From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 2 17:19:10 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:19:10 -0600 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge In-Reply-To: <20.15de71ca.2821c339@aol.com> Message-ID: I ACTUALLY HAVE a Space Ritual 8-track..... so does a friend in Germany.... I'll trade it for the French Hassan 45, if you toss in a couple Hawkfrendz.. mc From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed May 2 15:12:40 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:12:40 -0400 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge Message-ID: Apparently, the Warrior 8-track is in a pink cartridge, to match the sun on said artwork. The stuff of legend. "The Golden Void...Ker-chunk....speaks to me..." Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Anybody find Hawkwind on wax cylinder yet? :) From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed May 2 13:06:58 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:06:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Wierd 3 Message-ID: Hi, Weird 103 CD consists of the following tracks. There is no Damnation Alley Pt 2, I think they did that just to get the number of tracks up, as they omitted Iron Dream. I Am The Eye is a '95 title from the embryonic Blue Skin, and has no relevance to the Watchfield stuff. Slap ... is a bit of lunacy (souce unknown). Jez (Stonehenge '77) High Rise Damnation Alley Uncle Sam's On Mars Iron Dream Robot (Watchfield '75) Cake Out Circles Elements Slap It On De Table ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Litchfield To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:12 PM Subject: HW: Wierd 3 > Err... so we've established that Wierd 3 (like most of the other CDs) has > the wrong track list. Can anyone shed light on the title of the extra > track and provide a definitive list, with lineups? There appear to be > *four* tracks after Robot, not 3 as listed on the inlay.... > > Also, on the Astoria CDR, what's the title of the opening track (before > Levitation)? > > Thanks, > Steve Litchfield > From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed May 2 13:18:41 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:18:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Wierd 3 Message-ID: Steve, To my mind, it was just a rambling build up. At the time, I thought they'd come on before thay were ready and were still sorting out the gear. Could be (and probably am) wrong! Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Litchfield To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:12 PM Subject: HW: Wierd 3 > Err... so we've established that Wierd 3 (like most of the other CDs) has > the wrong track list. Can anyone shed light on the title of the extra > track and provide a definitive list, with lineups? There appear to be > *four* tracks after Robot, not 3 as listed on the inlay.... > > Also, on the Astoria CDR, what's the title of the opening track (before > Levitation)? > > Thanks, > Steve Litchfield > From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Wed May 2 16:29:11 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:29:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Merchandise Message-ID: When I lived in California I ordered some stuff from them. It took 4 months to arrive because Kris, bless her, did not send the package by airmail...it came by ship.... And then, I'm sorry to say, one of the T-shirts I ordered was badly printed with the image well off-centre. (I am wearing it right now, strangely enough - as an undershirt!). But with shipping times like those you can see why I didn't send it back for replacement... Moonglum ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Strobridge To: Sent: 01 May 2001 20:45 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Merchandise > Does anyone know what the current position is with regard to > purchasing Hawkwind Merchandise from the Honiton address? Is it > just very slow at the moment? From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Wed May 2 16:42:16 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:42:16 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Merchandise Message-ID: I ordered the "This is Hawkwind--Do Not Panic" book a number of years back, and when months and months had gone by, I finally received the package... it turns out they had shipped it to Valparaiso in Chile (as opposed to Valparaiso in Indiana, USA)! Apparently they didn't pay much attention to the address I had given them, as whoever addressed the package had neglected to put the country on the label... *sigh* In addition, it had been sent surface mail, not airmail, which is enough to irritate the most easygoing of people! John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > When I lived in California I ordered some stuff from them. It took 4 months > to arrive because Kris, bless her, did not send the package by airmail...it > came by ship.... And then, I'm sorry to say, one of the T-shirts I ordered > was badly printed with the image well off-centre. (I am wearing it right > now, strangely enough - as an undershirt!). But with shipping times like > those you can see why I didn't send it back for replacement... > > Moonglum > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jill Strobridge > To: > Sent: 01 May 2001 20:45 > Subject: HW: Hawkwind Merchandise > > > > Does anyone know what the current position is with regard to > > purchasing Hawkwind Merchandise from the Honiton address? Is it > > just very slow at the moment? From joe.e at TELIA.COM Wed May 2 16:43:37 2001 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:43:37 +0200 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge Message-ID: At 15:12 2001-05-02 -0400, you wrote: >Apparently, the Warrior 8-track is in a pink cartridge, to match the sun on >said artwork. The stuff of legend. "The Golden Void...Ker-chunk....speaks >to me..." > >Grakkl (FAA) > >P.S. Anybody find Hawkwind on wax cylinder yet? :) not got Doremi on wax cylinder, but do have the pink "Warrior On The Edge Of Time" on Atco. also got a nice copy of "*IN* The Hall Of The Mountain Grill", which is pure UA. .joe From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed May 2 16:50:50 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:50:50 EDT Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation Message-ID: In a message dated 5/2/01 5:30:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jswartz at MITRE.ORG writes: > As for the "purist" in you, I think you may be reading a bit more into > this than you should though - sure, they made a concious effort to write > "heavy" stuff - but so what? yeah, you're right, and the SFG cd does actually help me understand BOC a lot better...This really is the first BOC lp--Lamb, Redeemed, Last Days, even some stuff on T&M flows right out of here. And it explains the stuff that BOC used throughout that I always thought was "strangley NOT-metal"; metal bands never/simply can't write stuff like Quicklime Girl or Teen Archer or even Astronomy...When metal bands write 'outside' its usually a ballad or a joke. This lp explained alot; i'm glad to finally own a copy and glad it's been able to deepen my understanding of the band. Now if Martin Popoff's book (BOC Explained) is any good...though I have my reservations, as Mirrors is his fave BOC lp... bobm From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed May 2 18:40:18 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 23:40:18 +0100 Subject: spacebrock In-Reply-To: <001501c0cd90$a9618860$914c883e@e6o4t3> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Cerberus wrote: > Anyone who thinks that Hawkwind have nothing left should hear the new > track played on the last tour. "Elimental Mind" (world of lies)? is > outstanding, and really give Ron's talents a chance to shine. As someone else has said, this is `Hippy', from _In Your Area_, but in my position as pedant-to-the-gentry I feel it's also worth pointing out that all Ron wrote of this was the words, which are not the strongest point. I think the two songs he's really made his own are `Reptoid Vision', which really is typical Ron, and the other is `Aerospecaeage Inferno' which, with all respect to Mr Calvert and those involved, is lacklustre on _Captain Lockheed_ compared to the '97 and '98 live versions. I don't doubt he's got more to give, but I wonder how easy it is for him to give it to Hawkwind. Just jaundiced tonight, I guess, yours, Jon ObtLP: Motorhead - _Best Of_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Wed May 2 18:58:22 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 17:58:22 -0500 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: And furthermore, I'm not sure it's accurate to really call "Hippy" a new song, seeing as how it was written in late 1998, now almost three years ago. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Cerberus wrote: > > > Anyone who thinks that Hawkwind have nothing left should hear the new > > track played on the last tour. "Elimental Mind" (world of lies)? is > > outstanding, and really give Ron's talents a chance to shine. > > As someone else has said, this is `Hippy', from _In Your > Area_, but in my position as pedant-to-the-gentry I feel it's also worth > pointing out that all Ron wrote of this was the words, which are not the > strongest point. I think the two songs he's really made his own are > `Reptoid Vision', which really is typical Ron, and the other is > `Aerospecaeage Inferno' which, with all respect to Mr Calvert and those > involved, is lacklustre on _Captain Lockheed_ compared to the '97 and '98 > live versions. I don't doubt he's got more to give, but I wonder how easy > it is for him to give it to Hawkwind. Just jaundiced tonight, I guess, > yours, > Jon > > ObtLP: Motorhead - _Best Of_ > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed May 2 20:01:58 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:01:58 EDT Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge Message-ID: In a message dated 5/2/01 1:43:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, joe.e at TELIA.COM writes: > not got Doremi on wax cylinder, > but do have the pink "Warrior On The Edge Of Time" on Atco. > > also got a nice copy of "*IN* The Hall Of The Mountain Grill", which is pure > UA. > > .joe "The yellow jester does not play but gently pulls his strings...and smiles as the puppets dance IN THE HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN GRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL-AHHHH-AHAH-AHHHH-AHAH..." ...well, both have mellotron at least... :) Chuck From rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM Wed May 2 20:27:45 2001 From: rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM (RPManny) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:27:45 -0400 Subject: BOC: Origin of St Cecilia/Connection with The King in Yellow? Message-ID: Dear Warrick, I had the same question about St. Cecilia and I searched the internet from Dogpile.com (a useful search tool because it feeds data to several search engines at once). Anyway, St. Cecilia was a Christian betrothed to a non-believer. She did not wish to give herself to this non-believer and by her faith, he converted. Subsequently, her husband and another man (perhaps his brother, I'm sorry, faulty memory on my part) were executed by the Roman ruler (Prelate, magnate, again, "sigh", I don't recall). She was brought before this ruler and she refused to renounce her faith and certain romance legends state that several attempts at execution were attempted without success. These are reported as including, drowning in her bathtub, and decapitation (numerous attempts during one setting, so to speak). She is considered to be the patron saint of music because she hummed or sang during or before her final martyrdom. I found some interesting and informative links that tell the story of this early Christian better and more beautifully than I ever could. So moved was Chaucer, that she is the subject of the Second Nun's tale. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warrick Bell" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:24 PM Subject: BOC: Origin of St Cecilia/Connection with The King in Yellow? > Heyo all, > > I thought this might be an appropriate time to ask this question, what with > the (re)issue of St Cecilia coming out and all. (My copy hasn't yet arrived!!) > I was wondering if anybody knows who St Cecilia was, and what the name > might mean. I notice that Chambers mentions "Sainte C?cile" several times > in the stories of _The King in Yellow_ and as there's already an > acknowledged connection to KiY I figured that might be a further association. > I don't know if this has already been discussed or not; I've been off the > list for a couple of years and didn't see any new mention of St Cecilia in > the FAQ. > > Also, does anybody know if the CBS remasters will be released on SACD? > > > As beautiful as a foot, > > Warrick Bell > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 2 20:20:51 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:20:51 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Merchandise Message-ID: And there I was thinking 'Time of the Hawklords" was a book title! thanks! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Kirwan To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind Merchandise > I'm waiting for something - four weeks now (I think) - I've e-mailed but > still nothing. I think we just have to show a little patience and not crawl > the walls waiting. There may even be some strange space-time continuum > thingy going on - I'll bear with it a while yet. > > Sam > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 2 20:38:03 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:38:03 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes > Bernhard: what's happening festival wise in germany this year? Since > Glastonbury isn't on this year I could go somewhere else. Also, does > anyone reckon that the Canterbury or Norwich festivals will actually > happen? My ticket for Canterbury arrived the other day! Not that it proves anything since I also had a ticket for the Buxton Festival which was cancelled at the last minute. Kent hasn't had a FMD case since 2nd April and restrictions have been lifted now. Mind you restrictions were lifted in Somerset and I see they've just had a new case confirmed so it's still a bit of a risky venture. Wouldn't like to be one of the organisers. Good luck folks! jill From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 2 21:50:56 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:50:56 -0600 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge In-Reply-To: <200105022024.QAA29759@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Apparently, the Warrior 8-track is in a pink cartridge, to match the sun on said artwork. The stuff of legend. "The Golden Void...Ker-chunk....speaks to me..." Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Anybody find Hawkwind on wax cylinder yet? :) ******************************************************************************** you wouldn't BELIEVE the things THAT EXIST....... I know of silver machine being pressed onto a piece of linoleum..... and by the way, my Warrior 8-track is on white plastic...NOT pink...(insert fake crying)... maybe someone could shave their head, and have "psychedelic warlords" exact groove-pattern, and UA label tattooed on ......... mike c From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Wed May 2 19:57:10 2001 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Sara Zaza) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 23:57:10 -0000 Subject: HW 8 track SR Message-ID: >>Is it true that theres an 8 track of Space Ritual? >>Anyone ever find a copy of this? >>Rich W This is how I first heard HW. I was 16 yrs old, playing guitar in a bar band with a bunch of guys in their 20's in 1975, basically doing the "hardrock hits" (Deep Purple, Zep, Foghat (gulp), Free, Bowie etc) of the day. We actually used to do "Subhuman" believe it or not, a result of buying "On Your Feet..." (on 8 track also). Anyway, one day I show up for rehearsal and there is a guy standing by the mixing board that I had never seen before. I was told he was "the sound guy/roadie/lightshow person". After rehearsing, I rode with this guy (Steve) to load up our equipment (those fuckin' Altec Voice Of The Theatre speakers, no wonder I have a bad back now). Anyway he has an 8 track player in his car and puts in Space Ritual. I had never heard of HW and I remember thinking it was the weirdest thing I had ever heard. I was also working in a record store at the time and when Warrior came out I opened it, dug it, and that's how it all got started.....Then I started seeing things like the Cosmic Jokers and Ash Ra Tempel in the import section, but that's another story.............. John stanton From christmu at EUNET.NO Thu May 3 01:53:42 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 07:53:42 +0200 Subject: HW: Dark Sun and Nik Turner Message-ID: Just got this CD. IMHO the best Nik release since "Past or Future?", very energetic and psyched out versions of previous material.Highlights? The way the track sequence flows from D-Rider/The Right Stuff/Master of The Universe/Assault and Battery is absolute classic stuff. Chr. From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Thu May 3 05:29:36 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 10:29:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: Record Shops in Birmingham..any suggestions Message-ID: >Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:39:25 +0100 >From: ANDREW GARIBALDI >Subject: Re: OFF: Record Shops in Birmingham..any suggestions? > >It's Corporation Street not Coronation Street, and it's right down at the There is a Coronation Road in Birmingham, home of the Coronation Road Adventure Playground, which had it's initials in large letters on it's public noticeboard. Who says playground organisers are naive? Mark From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu May 3 06:29:52 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:29:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge In-Reply-To: mike c's message of Wed, 2 May 2001 15:19:10 -0600 Message-ID: mike c writes: > I ACTUALLY HAVE a Space Ritual 8-track..... > > so does a friend in Germany.... > > I'll trade it for the French Hassan 45, if you toss in a couple Hawkfrendz.. I have the Live Legends video on one of those LP sized laserdiscs. Does that get me into the Defunct Formats Club? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu May 3 06:31:31 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:31:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Wierd 3 In-Reply-To: J D's message of Wed, 2 May 2001 18:06:58 +0100 Message-ID: J D writes: > Hi, > Weird 103 CD consists of the following tracks. > There is no Damnation Alley Pt 2 Damnation Alley Part II is simply the instrumental part of Damnation Alley, as per the B side of the Italian Hassan I Sabha 7" FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu May 3 06:32:46 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:32:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Merchandise In-Reply-To: Moonglum's message of Wed, 2 May 2001 21:29:11 +0100 Message-ID: Moonglum writes: > When I lived in California I ordered some stuff from them. It took 4 months > to arrive because Kris, bless her, did not send the package by airmail...it > came by ship.... And then, I'm sorry to say, one of the T-shirts I ordered > was badly printed with the image well off-centre. (I am wearing it right > now, strangely enough - as an undershirt!). But with shipping times like > those you can see why I didn't send it back for replacement... What we need is a global network of carrier hawks. FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu May 3 07:46:26 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 05:46:26 -0600 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge In-Reply-To: <200105031029.LAA23658@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Mike Holmes writes: mike c writes: I ACTUALLY HAVE a Space Ritual 8-track..... so does a friend in Germany.... I'll trade it for the French Hassan 45, if you toss in a couple Hawkfrendz.. I have the Live Legends video on one of those LP sized laserdiscs. Does that get me into the Defunct Formats Club? ******************************************************************************** Only if you take your "cyberspace conspiracy" LP and stick it in that sleeve as I have done, and make a frisbee out of the laser disc....... but seriously,,,,you own the club, and it's not defunt......you know why you do too...... From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu May 3 06:59:22 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:59:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge In-Reply-To: mike c's message of Thu, 3 May 2001 05:46:26 -0600 Message-ID: mike c writes: >>>> I ACTUALLY HAVE a Space Ritual 8-track..... >>> so does a friend in Germany.... >>> I'll trade it for the French Hassan 45, if you toss in a couple >>> Hawkfrendz.. >> I have the Live Legends video on one of those LP sized laserdiscs. >> Does that get me into the Defunct Formats Club? > Only if you take your "cyberspace conspiracy" LP and stick it in that > sleeve as I have done, and make a frisbee out of the laser disc....... What was wrong with the original cover of The Cyberspace Conspiracy? > but seriously,,,,you own the club, and it's not defunt......you know > why you do too...... This one has whooshed right over my head... FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu May 3 08:22:35 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 06:22:35 -0600 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge In-Reply-To: <200105031059.LAA10523@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: FoFP: "What was wrong with the original cover of The Cyberspace Conspiracy? but seriously,,,,you own the club, and it's not defunt......you know why you do too......" "This one has whooshed right over my head..." Michael Michael Michael........hahaha...(grinning ear-to-ear)..(evil manner...not usually a physical possibility for coleman)..... in this here little instance...., seeing as my karma's at another of it's all-time lows, you being a rare case of the opposite .... there will most definately have to be "hazing" involved..... you see, my copy houses a test-pressing, which did not have to lose it's original cover...... seeing as this is a glue on, paste-together jobber, I see no real harm in it's sacrificial rite-of-passage..... TEE HEE TEE HE HE!!!! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu May 3 07:38:03 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 12:38:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge In-Reply-To: mike c's message of Thu, 3 May 2001 06:22:35 -0600 Message-ID: mike c writes: > FoFP: > > "What was wrong with the original cover of The Cyberspace Conspiracy? > but seriously,,,,you own the club, and it's not defunt......you know > why you do too......" > > "This one has whooshed right over my head..." > > Michael Michael Michael........hahaha...(grinning ear-to-ear)..(evil > manner...not usually a physical possibility for coleman)..... > > in this here little instance...., seeing as my karma's at another of it's > all-time lows, you being a rare case of the opposite .... > > there will most definately have to be "hazing" involved..... > > you see, my copy houses a test-pressing, which did not have to lose it's > original cover...... > > seeing as this is a glue on, paste-together jobber, I see no real harm in > it's sacrificial rite-of-passage..... > > TEE HEE TEE HE HE!!!! Ah well, I do get triple points for naming the album. FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu May 3 08:47:20 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 06:47:20 -0600 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge In-Reply-To: <200105031138.MAA27620@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: FoFP: "Ah well, I do get triple points for naming the album". LoL Lol Lol Lol ...... I think I love you....(brotherly)(remove minds from gutter) From sebastian at WELTON.DE Thu May 3 08:26:30 2001 From: sebastian at WELTON.DE (Sebastian Welton) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 08:26:30 -0400 Subject: OFF: Burg Herzberg Message-ID: We shall also be trying to visit Burg Herzberg as well this year as Bad Hersfeld is only a couple of hours drive for me. However, there is another festival which is worth visiting in July (20th to 22nd I believe) which is the Finkenbach festival held by various members of Guru Guru. Curently there is no line up but they now have a web site: http://www.finkenbach.de and hopefully details should be posted there shortly. Cheers, Seb. From nick at NETPHD.NET Thu May 3 08:45:46 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 08:45:46 -0400 Subject: BOC: "Curse" review Message-ID: I'm not stupid. It's pretty obvious that the Classic Rock Revisited review is well removed from anything even remotely related to a legitimate "critique". But don't blame me if I choose to believe every word of it!!! --Nick From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu May 3 09:05:02 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 09:05:02 -0400 Subject: BOC: "Curse" review In-Reply-To: <200105031245.IAA10451@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: Nick wrote: > I'm not stupid. It's pretty obvious that the Classic > Rock Revisited review is well removed from anything > even remotely related to a legitimate "critique". > > But don't blame me if I choose to believe every word of > it!!! Was the gist of the "review" that CotHM (not to be confused with CotBS), is the second coming of Secret Treaties? CMC doesn't need to pull that kind of paid PR on me. I'll buy the album even if it's the second coming of Club Ninja. ;-) Which brings me to: The song "White Flags" is much more tolerable (and more BOCish) when you think of the line, "Like the snowflake in my hand that's melting" as his hand is melting, not the snowflake.... Brian "Pants above the knee are knickers. Many worn by football kickers." -SFG -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu May 3 09:12:32 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 09:12:32 -0400 Subject: FW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: On Wed, 2 May 2001 19:04:10 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >Way back in 1989 the gangsters had sales reps at every crossroads on the >site. Each was accompanied by a friend with a baseball bat and most of >them were wearing black ski masks or balaclavas. That, and some trouble >from Travellers that year convinced Eavis to allow the Police to patrol >onsite. I think that was the last time I went- '89 sounds about right anyway. I certainly remember the multitude of Seriously Bad Dudes (yardies?) and stumbling across a chappie in a gleaming silver Merc surrounded by henchmen who looked like he could be Mr Big. I didn't inquire though. Also, does >anyone reckon that the Canterbury or Norwich festivals will actually >happen? Well I "spoke" to Rik on the irc channel recently and he reckons Canterbury is "100% on." As for Norwich, I do know that a lot (maybe all?) of the footpath restrictions etc are now lifted, so grounds for optimism there too. NM From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 3 11:40:49 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 01:10:49 +0930 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Merchandise Message-ID: European or African? ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind Merchandise > Moonglum writes: > > > When I lived in California I ordered some stuff from them. It took 4 months > > to arrive because Kris, bless her, did not send the package by airmail...it > > came by ship.... And then, I'm sorry to say, one of the T-shirts I ordered > > was badly printed with the image well off-centre. (I am wearing it right > > now, strangely enough - as an undershirt!). But with shipping times like > > those you can see why I didn't send it back for replacement... > > What we need is a global network of carrier hawks. > > FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 3 11:44:18 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 01:14:18 +0930 Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopppsy's Message-ID: I thought this was funny enough to post - > Have you heard about the next planned "Survivor" show? > * 6 men will be dropped on an island with 1 car and 4 kids each, for 6 weeks > * Each kid plays two sports and either takes music or dance classes. > * There is no access to fast food. > * Each man must take care of his 4 kids, keep his assigned house clean, > correct all homework, complete science projects, cook, do laundry, etc. > * The men only have access to television when the kids are asleep and all > chores are done. There is only one TV between them and there is no remote. > * The men must shave their legs and wear makeup daily, which they must > apply themselves, either while driving or while making four lunches. > * They must attend weekly PTA meetings; clean up after their sick children > at 3:00 am; make an Indian hut model with six toothpicks, a tortilla and > one marker; and get a 4 year old to eat a serving of peas. > * The kids vote them off the island, based on performance. > * The winner is the man left with enough energy to make SATISFYING wild and > passionate love to his spouse at a moment's notice. Tee hee..... From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Thu May 3 12:31:36 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 17:31:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge Message-ID: Johan Edlundh wrote: >not got Doremi on wax cylinder, >but do have the pink "Warrior On The Edge Of Time" on Atco. That's a brand of lawnmower isn't it? I have no HW on wax cylinder but I do have an early version on Silver Machine on player piano roll. Mark From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu May 3 12:04:00 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 12:04:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: Burg Herzberg Message-ID: Seb said... >We shall also be trying to visit Burg Herzberg as well this year as Bad >Hersfeld is only a couple of hours drive for me. However, there is another >festival which is worth visiting in July (20th to 22nd I believe) which is >the Finkenbach festival held by various members of Guru Guru. Curently >there is no line up but they now have a web site: http://www.finkenbach.de >and hopefully details should be posted there shortly. Well, this is interesting! I hope to God it isn't the same bloody weekend as Burg Herzberg, as those dates you give would indicate! If the Finkenbach fest with Guru Guru performing (?) was anything like that on the 98 Jahre Live double LP, well then it would be hard to pass up! Excellent stuff! The 2000 Gurus CD wasn't quite so interesting though, trying too hard to be something they're not. Anyway, I went to the website and couldn't read anything (given it's all in German), and as you pointed out, there doesn't seem to be any official schedule or lineup. In the guestbook, though, I caught the numbers 13-14 (See below), which leads me to believe that perhaps it would be the previous weekend to BH, i.e., July 13-14. That would be really excellent, and might convince me to go for certain. Although that would pretty much put aside my thoughts of going to England for the Aug. 4 Hawkwind fest. sadly. Too much time in Europe for me! Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Is it Finkenbach, near Bad Kreuznach? Or Finkenbach near Heidelberg, in Odenwald? Either is close to Frankfurt also, so that would work nicely. P.P.S. What this say? Habe aus gut unterrichteten Kreisen erfahren, dass als Termin fuer das FB Festivall das WoEnde 13./14. Juni geplant ist. Sobald es "handfeste" Beweise gibt, gebe ich diese gerne weiter! Gruesse GP Sorry, 13./14. JULI! From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu May 3 13:23:05 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 19:23:05 +0200 Subject: OFF: Burg Herzberg In-Reply-To: <200105031716.NAA13721@mail5.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Hi Here is the translation: >P.P.S. What this say? > >Habe aus gut unterrichteten Kreisen erfahren, dass als Termin fuer das FB >Festivall das WoEnde 13./14. Juni geplant ist. Sobald es "handfeste" Beweise >gibt, gebe ich diese gerne weiter! Gruesse GP I've been told by people who know this situation very good that the date for the festival is scheduled for the the weekend 13/14 June (July ?) If I there should be given concrete evidences I will give them to you Hope that helps Bernhard From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu May 3 16:52:33 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 21:52:33 +0100 Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopppsy's Message-ID: Ha!! Ha!! That's good! I don't know many blokes that could do it!!! Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 05/03/01 04:44pm >>> I thought this was funny enough to post - > Have you heard about the next planned "Survivor" show? > * 6 men will be dropped on an island with 1 car and 4 kids each, for 6 weeks > * Each kid plays two sports and either takes music or dance classes. > * There is no access to fast food. > * Each man must take care of his 4 kids, keep his assigned house clean, > correct all homework, complete science projects, cook, do laundry, etc. > * The men only have access to television when the kids are asleep and all > chores are done. There is only one TV between them and there is no remote. > * The men must shave their legs and wear makeup daily, which they must > apply themselves, either while driving or while making four lunches. > * They must attend weekly PTA meetings; clean up after their sick children > at 3:00 am; make an Indian hut model with six toothpicks, a tortilla and > one marker; and get a 4 year old to eat a serving of peas. > * The kids vote them off the island, based on performance. > * The winner is the man left with enough energy to make SATISFYING wild and > passionate love to his spouse at a moment's notice. Tee hee..... From nick at NETPHD.NET Thu May 3 17:07:27 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 17:07:27 -0400 Subject: BOC: "Curse" review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Was the gist of the "review" that CotHM (not to be confused with CotBS), is > the second coming of Secret Treaties? Actually, the reviewer did say at least once that some of the album was reminiscent of the first three. I don't believe it, but I'm with you. I'm buying it no matter what it sounds like. --Nick From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu May 3 18:42:13 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 17:42:13 -0500 Subject: tour dates and court case Message-ID: Hey there folks, ...am just now chatting on #hawkwind.org.uk (I promise I'll have an irc guide up soon. really!) A few new gigs just got announced (I'm sure Rik will get them out officially soon.)...and hawkwind is going to court over brixton. see the raw irc log below (sorry about the lousy format, but I'm doing this in a hurry.) Arin > any new cd news? tour news? festival news? or anything else I can winnow out of you folks? Confirmed solstice festival gig on 22nd June at Donnington Park...was the Derby rock and Blues but moved because of foot and mouth > ah cool. (humbly:) will u be at brockwell park 16th june? No not brockwell, but free fetival in Norwich on 4th August excellent will come to donnington for sure norwich if poss thanks for aldershot & croydon both superb Also gig in birmingham on 8th nov. Festival type dauy indoors with other bandas, eg Ozrics, Gong etc > hawkpeople: once upon a time there was talk of a 3 day hawkfest this summer. Is that still a possibility, or (what, with all the other festivals :-) ) is that now probably not on? > yeesh. I need to move to england. my jenny says to play a gig while she is in the UK, 28th June - 1st Aug Hopefully more dates to be arranged around the Birmingham date, maybe 10 days......Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, etc starting to look like traditional HW autumn tour - hooray! > I sense a november-vacation-in-england week in my future. arin: forget worldcon? Trying to organise good new studio album :) double hooray!!!!! > mooongluum: i can't. already have membership and hotel. Time to work overtime for some comp time (pseudo vacation). or perhaps a sudden illness ;-) arin: illness yes hawkpeople: a while ago ron mentioned lack of recording contract as obstacle to new studio album: is that resoved? > hey....if you guys do the tour thing in november, I want to see if I can figure out a way of chartering a bus or something for a bunch of fans. so we can hit lots of shows ;-) That sounds good:) electric acid cool aid test UK 2001 Hey..also gig late November at the Royal festival hall......Psycadelic weekend wow excellent, thats a cool venue, saw Tomita there i may have to reconsider emigrating > moongluum, definitely. I wish I was living over there. It'd be easier to feed my addiction ;-) hawkpeople: what was your favourite gig on spring mini tour? hi splodgey hope i didn't annoy u guess i did lol he just noticed you were still here moon ;) Most were fun...although the Aldershot promoter withheld money and was an awkward b'stard > a new studio album (getting back to earlier topics ;-) ) would be a good thing.... We won't play there again tell me his name & address & i will arrange for bad stuff to happen to him > sigh. sometimes the music industry seem to be composed of complete b'stards. lol except you of course hawkpeople * ArinK smiles We are going to court over the brixton fiasco > oh. You have my sympathies. Sounds like much not fun. jeez...i'll contribute to your legal costs if you take credit cards > we could take up a collection for legal costs. Not much fun....but we have decided to publisise it and get as many press and Hawkwind fans there as possible, when the case takes place > just let us know when and where, and we'll (speaking on behalf of a bunch of people I have no right to, of course) will try to be there. count me in. i mean it about the contribution too > let the 2 lists know about it too. I'm certain that support will be forthcoming. im back what happened at Brixton Well it was going to be in Taunton, but it just got moved to London, but we are appealling and trying to get it back to the west country.......perhaps we can do a festival to co incide......:-) ? > a good incentive, certainly. When is it (or a close approximation?) Don't know, but the courts seem to be moving fairly quickly tomorrow man this is about legal action against brixton promoter who is a *** i get ya make that f****** c*** > as soon as you get an approximation, let me/us know. I'll need to plan flights and stuff. They say fans did not pay to see Dave +co, but for the event...... bollocks i hated that shite disco in the foyer sorry rude words called for sounds like Bill Clintons ideas about sex Soon as we have approx date, we will announce it on MC and lists :) > bastards. Just let me testify in front of 'em, I'll let them know. I mean, why on earth would I possibly go over to England just to go catch some random gig at Brixton. idiots. > I go for the band ;-) totally right arin Hey.....a petition might help?? > then we'll start one for you. that sounds like a legal arguement though, they play with words these legal folks > Should it stress that we [the fans] were there specifically to see hawkwind? does the promoter have anything to do with the venue or is that a separate thing? Great, Will send you legal type jargon to head it what should the wording be - "we the undersigned declare that we attended the Hawkestra at Brixton etc for the sole purpose of seeing Hawkwind perform" we can copy wording off some other petition there must be some on the web > thanks hawkpeople. We'll get it going as soon as we get the legal jargonese. Will get advise and come back to you on this > certainly. We stand ready to help. bad publicity is a better idea though not good for his business if everyone knows he wont pay > well, nailing the guy's hide to the wall is a good idea, too ;-) We are not arguing about the money really.....its the principal > hear, hear. hi everybody why should you be ripped off after playing 3 and a half hours for te fans hi nick hi! hi ormuzd hello to all including the Hawkpeople of course > the petition certainly couldn't hurt. Hi We need all the help we can get against the "big boys" negative publicity can be effective, ebay on the net makes use of it for when you buy stuff off people > absolutely. ...and we'll help however we can. if someone rips u off, u just let everyone else know who they are We were not allowed to do any gigs that year to make way for Hawkestra! you owe me 10p tomorrowman lol hawkpeople, you seem to be making up for it this year thank you thank you thank you -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Thu May 3 19:00:11 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 01:00:11 +0200 Subject: tour dates and court case In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hiya, >...am just now chatting on #hawkwind.org.uk (I promise I'll have an >irc guide up soon. really!) >A few new gigs just got announced (I'm sure Rik will get them out >officially soon.)...and hawkwind is going to court over brixton. >see the raw irc log below (sorry about the lousy format, but I'm doing >this in a hurry.) Thx for the log Arin! BTW, is there any chance to join a dalnet-channel from a "normal" IRC-server that is behind a firewall? (c)IAO D+R From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Thu May 3 19:09:34 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 01:09:34 +0200 Subject: OFF: Magma bass sound Message-ID: Hi folks, as we have some other Magma fans and a lot of bass-players on this list I thought here's the best place to ask: Does someone know how I can get that typical Jannik Top/Bernard Paganotti bass-sound? You know, that grumbling powerful sound that's so typical for Magma. I have both a Fender J (I think Top plays one, too) and a Steinberger bass and I tried a lot of effects (Fuzz had the best results) but I only come close, never get it really right. Any ideas or suggestions? (c)IAO D+R np: Magma, "Theusz Hamtaahk trilogie" -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu May 3 19:36:49 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 18:36:49 -0500 Subject: tour dates and court case In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010504005813.024f67d0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: On Fri, 4 May 2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: :Subject: Re: tour dates and court case : :Hiya, : :>...am just now chatting on #hawkwind.org.uk (I promise I'll have an :>irc guide up soon. really!) :>A few new gigs just got announced (I'm sure Rik will get them out :>officially soon.)...and hawkwind is going to court over brixton. :>see the raw irc log below (sorry about the lousy format, but I'm doing :>this in a hurry.) : :Thx for the log Arin! :BTW, is there any chance to join a dalnet-channel from a "normal" :IRC-server that is behind a firewall? yep. I assume that you've tried to connect to irc.dal.net and didn't get anywhere? (...and that your server admins don't want to open up port 6666-6669?) There are irc to http gateways, so that if you can see internet web pages from behind your firewall, then you can use irc. I'll have some info soon, I hope. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Fri May 4 01:08:52 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:08:52 +1200 Subject: BOC-L Music Sale In-Reply-To: <200105010900.FAA20987@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: "If you are interested in progressive, psychedelic, spacerock, krautrock etc music's then Cranium Music is currently running a sale at 10% off all prices in their catalogue plus you will receive FREE airmail shipping anywhere in the world. Our order form uses PPG secure encryption & we accept credit cards. Visit http://www.cranium.co.nz or http://www.cranium-music.com to view our catalogue and hear sound samples. Album of the Month for May is "Omnia Opera - Red Shift" a spacerock classic". Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri May 4 02:17:30 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 07:17:30 +0100 Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's Message-ID: If u know 1 I'd be amazed - there are no men like that - they don't have the genetic make up for it - they have the genes for plenty of other fun stuff - a woman could not have conceived Hawkwind for instance - but looking after more than themselves.......... Sam (No offence lads - we luv u dearly for what u r) -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: 03 May 2001 21:53 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopppsy's Ha!! Ha!! That's good! I don't know many blokes that could do it!!! Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 05/03/01 04:44pm >>> I thought this was funny enough to post - > Have you heard about the next planned "Survivor" show? > * 6 men will be dropped on an island with 1 car and 4 kids each, for 6 weeks > * Each kid plays two sports and either takes music or dance classes. > * There is no access to fast food. > * Each man must take care of his 4 kids, keep his assigned house clean, > correct all homework, complete science projects, cook, do laundry, etc. > * The men only have access to television when the kids are asleep and all > chores are done. There is only one TV between them and there is no remote. > * The men must shave their legs and wear makeup daily, which they must > apply themselves, either while driving or while making four lunches. > * They must attend weekly PTA meetings; clean up after their sick children > at 3:00 am; make an Indian hut model with six toothpicks, a tortilla and > one marker; and get a 4 year old to eat a serving of peas. > * The kids vote them off the island, based on performance. > * The winner is the man left with enough energy to make SATISFYING wild and > passionate love to his spouse at a moment's notice. Tee hee..... *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). 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Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 4 04:21:37 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:21:37 +0100 Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D904AAA6BB@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: >If u know 1 I'd be amazed - there are no men like that - There are plenty. -- Jon From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri May 4 04:42:53 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:42:53 +0800 Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Browne" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 4:21 PM Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's > >If u know 1 I'd be amazed - there are no men like that - > > There are plenty. > -- > Jon There are billions and billions. Bill From r.burton at HW.AC.UK Fri May 4 04:46:43 2001 From: r.burton at HW.AC.UK (Rob Burton) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:46:43 +0100 Subject: off Message-ID: can anyone tell me how to subscribe with a different email address and unsubscribe the existing one. Thanks. From r.burton at HW.AC.UK Fri May 4 04:55:25 2001 From: r.burton at HW.AC.UK (Rob Burton) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:55:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin Message-ID: Anyone going to see bedouin in Newcastle under lyme on 11th May? From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri May 4 05:14:36 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:14:36 +0800 Subject: tour dates and court case Message-ID: Hi What is the court case actually about? William > On Fri, 4 May 2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > > :Subject: Re: tour dates and court case > : > :Hiya, > : > :>...am just now chatting on #hawkwind.org.uk (I promise I'll have an > :>irc guide up soon. really!) > :>A few new gigs just got announced (I'm sure Rik will get them out > :>officially soon.)...and hawkwind is going to court over brixton. > :>see the raw irc log below (sorry about the lousy format, but I'm doing > :>this in a hurry.) > : > :Thx for the log Arin! > :BTW, is there any chance to join a dalnet-channel from a "normal" > :IRC-server that is behind a firewall? > > yep. I assume that you've tried to connect to irc.dal.net and didn't get > anywhere? > > (...and that your server admins don't want to open up port 6666-6669?) > > There are irc to http gateways, so that if you can see internet web > pages from behind your firewall, then you can use irc. > > I'll have some info soon, I hope. > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Fri May 4 07:01:42 2001 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:01:42 +0100 Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 2 May 2001, Robert C. Mayo wrote: > yeah, you're right, and the SFG cd does actually help me understand BOC a lot > better...This really is the first BOC lp--Lamb, Redeemed, Last Days, even > some stuff on T&M flows right out of here. And it explains the stuff that BOC > used throughout that I always thought was "strangley NOT-metal"; metal bands > never/simply can't write stuff like Quicklime Girl or Teen Archer or even > Astronomy...When metal bands write 'outside' its usually a ballad or a joke. > This lp explained alot; i'm glad to finally own a copy and glad it's been > able to deepen my understanding of the band. Right. I got my copy yesterday and the very non-metal Byrds / Dead influences on it continue right through the 70s BOC. Buck has never played like a metal guitarist, and Albert is much too artistic to hit the drums like Ian Paice (not that I'm knocking Paice). I totally agree with Braunstein about the mixture of the sweet and the powerful being the band's appeal. And incidentally, I also got a hint of Dickie Betts in the guitar style. Was he well-known at that time, or is this just 'parallel evolution'? I much prefer the 'Oaxaca' versions to the 'Stalk Forrest' ones. The 'Stalk Forrest' cuts have more attention paid to the guitar solos, but at the expense of the vocals and the band, I think. With 2 more versions of "I'm on the lamb' (aka 'The red and the black') this must be their most released song, as it's on the first two BOC albums as well. (Though I expect they've released a lot of versions of DFtR by now). I was a bit disappointed by the notes - Stony Brook appears as Sunny Brook in one place (and shouldn't it be 'Stonybrook' one word?) and Bouchard appears as 'Brouchard' and 'Brochard' in different places. And it states that 3 tracks from the Oaxaca tapes were added to 7 tracks from the California sessions to make the album, but according to the back cover there were only 9 tracks on the final album. Can anyone clarify, or is this just a mistake in adding up? - Mike Godwin PS I like that "knickers" line too, but then I'm English ... From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri May 4 07:15:22 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:15:22 +0100 Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Fri, 4 May 2001 09:21:37 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > >If u know 1 I'd be amazed - there are no men like that - > > There are plenty. Women don't tend to see much of them though after they tell them that "they'd just like to be friends". ;-) FoFP From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 4 07:15:56 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:15:56 +0100 Subject: tour dates and court case In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I went to the Acadamy that night for no other reason than to pay 12 quid for four cans of lager, and would happily queue for two hours any night of the week to do it again, irrespective of who was playing. Didn't the rest of you, then? -- Jon From pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK Fri May 4 07:31:50 2001 From: pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Peter Wibrew) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:31:50 +0100 Subject: tour dates and court case Message-ID: What! there was a band on. I went to dance in the entrance lobby. Which reminds me, there's a rave in my vestibule tonight, doesn't matter about the bands playing in my front room. All the best Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Browne" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:15 PM Subject: Re: tour dates and court case > I went to the Acadamy that night for no other reason than to pay 12 quid > for four cans of lager, and would happily queue for two hours any night > of the week to do it again, irrespective of who was playing. > > Didn't the rest of you, then? > -- > Jon From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri May 4 07:42:19 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:42:19 +0100 Subject: tour dates and court case In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Fri, 4 May 2001 12:15:56 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > I went to the Acadamy that night for no other reason than to pay 12 quid > for four cans of lager, and would happily queue for two hours any night > of the week to do it again, irrespective of who was playing. > Didn't the rest of you, then? Was I there? Who was playing? FoFP From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri May 4 08:00:34 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:00:34 +0100 Subject: tour dates and court case Message-ID: One man (or woman) raves rule!!! Other people think strange thoughts about you but I think they're cool. I never get into fights at them anyway...... Sam Actually there was once... -----Original Message----- From: Peter Wibrew [mailto:pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK] Sent: 04 May 2001 12:32 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: tour dates and court case What! there was a band on. I went to dance in the entrance lobby. Which reminds me, there's a rave in my vestibule tonight, doesn't matter about the bands playing in my front room. All the best Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Browne" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:15 PM Subject: Re: tour dates and court case > I went to the Acadamy that night for no other reason than to pay 12 quid > for four cans of lager, and would happily queue for two hours any night > of the week to do it again, irrespective of who was playing. > > Didn't the rest of you, then? > -- > Jon *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri May 4 09:11:52 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:11:52 -0400 Subject: BOC: Fave version of Lamb/TRatB (was Re: BOC: fakes? ) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mike Godwin wrote: > With 2 more versions of "I'm on the lamb' (aka 'The red and the black') > this must be their most released song, as it's on the first two BOC albums > as well. (Though I expect they've released a lot of versions of DFtR by > now). So, which is everyone's favorite version of Lamb/TRatB? I'd rank T&M #1 because of the muscle behind it, followed closely by the alternate version on the SFG CD. I do like the "precursor to Hot Rails" ending of the official SFG version, though I'd rank it my least favorite version overall. The BOC album version has its cool "Ride, mush you huskies," but it lacks those great harmonies of the alt. SFG version and the punch of the T&M version. > PS I like that "knickers" line too, but then I'm English ... Speaking of knickers and football kickers (although of the Soccer variety), is it true that Manchester United signed a 12-year-old? Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri May 4 09:26:31 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:26:31 EDT Subject: BOC: Fave version of Lamb/TRatB (was Re: BOC: fakes? ) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4 May 2001, at 9:11, Brian Halligan wrote: > Speaking of knickers and football kickers (although of the Soccer > variety), is it true that Manchester United signed a 12-year-old? > > Wasn't Gretzky only 16 when the Oilers drafted him? theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri May 4 10:02:25 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:02:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: Wayne Gretzky In-Reply-To: <3AF275C4.16165.7DE6D7@localhost> Message-ID: > On 4 May 2001, at 9:11, Brian Halligan wrote: >> Speaking of knickers and football kickers (although of the Soccer >> variety), is it true that Manchester United signed a 12-year-old? Theo replied: > Wasn't Gretzky only 16 when the Oilers drafted him? I'm not sure, it's possible. And of course, baseball signs 15-year-olds all the time in Latin and South America. Still, to me there's a big difference between 15 or 16, and 12. Brian Who was playing in a small-town basketball league at 12, and who still hasn't been drafted into the NBA. -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri May 4 11:25:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 00:55:27 +0930 Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's Message-ID: Woman do deserve more respect that has generally been given in the distant and not so distant past and even today - even tho we can make lofty statements like : we let woman vote - we let woman work - we don't burn 'em at the stake no more? Even tho I am a proud member of the male species I have never undertood how a female who shags like a minx frequently is described as being slutty etc when the same bloke that looks down on her was the 'shagger' and frequently sows his oats allover town any time of the day week or month? Have those people ever thought that the world might be less populated with shaggless desperate males if the females were not made to feely shitty about something that is perfectly natural and beautiful in its full glory? I declare next week TOGA PARTY week - and the week after that SHAGG LIKE A MINX WEEK and the theme thruout will be : Woman are not witches made out of wood so quit trying to burn 'em baby!! Even if they do turn you into a mute!!! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Browne To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:51 PM Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's > >If u know 1 I'd be amazed - there are no men like that - > > There are plenty. > -- > Jon From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Fri May 4 11:22:57 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:22:57 EDT Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation Message-ID: In a message dated 5/4/01 4:02:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK writes: > > Right. I got my copy yesterday and the very non-metal Byrds / Dead > influences on it continue right through the 70s BOC. Buck has never played > like a metal guitarist, and Albert is much too artistic to hit the drums > like Ian Paice (not that I'm knocking Paice). I totally agree with > Braunstein about the mixture of the sweet and the powerful being the > well, upon even further reflection, their being a non-metal band writing metalic music is what made them so special isn't it? it really set them a part from their contemporaries; i guess a better example of their non-metal writing in a metal context would be 'Before the Kiss'...I mean, what is that (besides a great song)? well, thats a 70's hard rock/metal song written by a band from a completely different place... and hence fathoms more interesting than most concurrent stuff by other 70's hard rock/metal. i love this record... bobm From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri May 4 12:04:33 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:04:33 +0100 Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's In-Reply-To: Michael W Blackman's message of Sat, 5 May 2001 00:55:27 +0930 Message-ID: Michael W Blackman writes: > Even tho I am a proud member of the male species I have never > undertood how a female who shags like a minx frequently is described > as being slutty etc when the same bloke that looks down on her was the > 'shagger' and frequently sows his oats allover town any time of the > day week or month? Hard to say whether you seriously want an answer here but anyway: A) Biology dictates that male mammals cannot be sure of paternity, particularly in humans where the fertile cycle of the female is hidden. The only reassurance males have of paternity therefore is indication that they are the sole sexual partner of the female. Males will therefore pursue promiscuous females for sexual pleasure but will not mate with them. That's the madonna/whore dichotomy in a nutshell. In short the genes of males want to spread and that dictates mating with lots of females. However when the male puts effort into raising kids, there's a strong interest in being as sure as possible that they're his (human cuckoldry rate is between 15 % and 20%). Selection of mates will be made to minimise the risk of cuckoldry. B) The genes of females also want to spread as far as possible. Given the behaviour of males, they therefore need sons who will spread those genes. They'll therefore tend to select men with some propensity to stray because that's where those genes will come from. If they tended to avoid those men and selected instead stone age SNAG's then we'd all be SNAG's. As a rule they don't and the more stable of the adventurous guys get the babes. Not that this is all a result of concious decision. Evolution is too smart to risk leaving this up to folks who'll pull stunts like inventing Dating Codes and will sue for sexual harassment if someone's pupils get too wide. Nope, it's hardwired down at the instinct level where it can't be gainsaid. This, and other very interesting and non-PC stuff can be looked up under "evolutionary psychology". > Have those people ever thought that the world might be less populated > with shaggless desperate males if the females were not made to feely > shitty about something that is perfectly natural and beautiful in its > full glory? They generally don't. The world is populated by frustrated males because women are around three times as selective as men when choosing a sexual partner (I.E out of a roomful of people men would more or less happily go home with three times as many of the women as the women would with the men). The reasons for this are pretty much the above. Mike "Why be politically correct when you can be right?" Holmes From coral at APORT.RU Fri May 4 12:07:36 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:07:36 +0400 Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's Message-ID: what a crap topic? From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri May 4 12:18:00 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:18:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision In-Reply-To: <023901c0c76e$d8d14fe0$5657893e@bedroomt> Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, colm mcwilliams wrote: > in the atomhenge 76 booklet that comes with the cd theirs a couple of > pictures of robert calvert with a trumpet but i can't hear a trumpet on any > of the songs? Those photos appear to me to be in a studio, so I'm guessing it's the sessions for `Steppenwolf' from ASAM? Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri May 4 12:26:11 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:26:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Brian Halligan wrote: > P.S. See http://www.rubricrecords.com for Nick and Adrian's US acoustic tour > dates. I guess this means Adrian's cure is working and a Frond tour may come > sooner than expected? Old news this now, pretty much, but when I spoke to him in March at the Arthur Brown gig at the Standard, he was halfway through the course of treatment then and everything looked to be OK. Then a month and a half later tour dates started emerging and so I guess all went well. Downside of this is that he won't be in the country for this Bedouin/Alchemysts gig, and I was hoping he would be there as Alan's never met him and it would have been nice to close that gap. Ah well, I'd rather he were touring I think :-) Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri May 4 12:22:07 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:22:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mark Edmonds wrote: > I'm positive it wasn't Ginger - he didn't play on the Earth Ritual tour > anyway did he? I can vaguely remember a medium height person with dark > shortish hair and a round face but I'm not sure. Unless I'm confused which is always possible, the contendors would be (taking a fairly broad period round "Earth Ritual tour" here) Clive Deamer, Martin Griffin (much hair so probably not), Andy Anderson (at least one obvious facial characteristic you don't mention there, so... ), Rob Heaton (of New Model Army), John Clark or Danny Thompson Jr (who is *not* "of medium height"), so maybe one of those names matches the signature. If on the other hand it might not be the drummer, that opens things out a bit... Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Fri May 4 12:54:44 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:54:44 GMT Subject: BOC: A new(!) cover of (DF)tR Message-ID: >From Perfect Sound Forever Outsight colum: The Stingrays Surf Band Don't Fear the Reverb Slimstyle Records, 2820 E. 6th St., #220, Tucson, AZ 85716 http://www.slimstyle.com A surfing romp through the Blue Oyster Cult's "Don't Fear the Reaper" leads of this instrumental surf guitar album as the title track. Straight out of southern California, this enthusiastic teenage trio offers up the sounds that made famous the Venture's influential surf album. Their heavy surf sound is definitely in the Dick Dale tradition and influenced by the proto-rock experimentation of Link Wray. (3) --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri May 4 14:56:00 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:56:00 -0400 Subject: BOC: A new(!) cover of (DF)tR In-Reply-To: <200105041654.f44GsiS19090@shell.acmenet.net> Message-ID: Jason "Bolts" Scruton wrote: > From Perfect Sound Forever Outsight colum: > > The Stingrays Surf Band > Don't Fear the Reverb > Slimstyle Records, 2820 E. 6th St., #220, Tucson, AZ 85716 > http://www.slimstyle.com What's really impressive is that these kids are so young, and are actually into Reaper. I wonder if they've heard Hot Rails to Hell? That's a surf cover just waiting to happen...Maybe I should send the suggestion to Los Straitjackets? ;-) Brian OBsong> "My Heart Will Go On" Los Straitjackets -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri May 4 14:54:32 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:54:32 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 4/28 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST (sometimes later) on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck 4/28 (5-9pm PST) 1.Mazinga Phaser-- "Time is its Own Revenge/title track" (Dissatisfied Customers of Hallucination; Idol Records) 2.Saturnia-- "Bliss" (II) 3.Farflung-- Track #5 (Live Strange Daze '99; Strange Trips Records) 4.Pink Fairies-- "Uncle Harry's Last Freakout" (Do it! , The Golden Years , etc) 5.Hawkwind-- "Improvise...Compromise...Reprise" (Text of Festival; Illuminated Records) 6.Harvey Bainbridge-- "Black Hole" (Live 2000; Strange Trips Records) 7.Quarkspace-- "Quarkital" (Spacefolds 3; Eternity's Jest Records) 8.Rollerball-- "Narcisse" (Trail of the Butter Yeti; Roadcone Records) 9.Moondance Experiment-- "Elephant Parade" (Fall Awake in Your Dreams Tonight; MmmDEee Records) 10.Anubian Lights-- "In Flight/Out Flight" (Naz Bar; Crippled Dick Hotwax Records) 11.Organization-- "Vor dem Blauen Bock--Beat Club TV-Theme Mai '71" (Tone Float) 12.Sproton Layer-- "Tidal Wave" (With Magnetic Fields Disrupted; New Alliance Records) 13.Third Eye Foundation-- "A Galaxy of Scars" (Merge Records) 14.Game Boy-- "Electronic Bliss" (Bloomington Electronic Music Coalition Vol. 2 comp; Nefarious Records) 15.Sub Oslo-- "Stratospheric Penetration" (Dubs in the Key of Life; Two Ohm Hop Records) 16.Fuxa-- "Second Abductions" (Accretion; Mind Expansion Records) 17.God-- "Cold Opening" (God's Greatest Hits Vol. 2) 18.Zappa/Mothers-- "Flower Punk" (We're Only In it for the Money; Rykodisc Records) 19.Zappa/Mothers-- "Motherly Love" (Abnsolutely Free; Rykodisc Records) 20.Groomlake Danceband-- "Supernatural Echo" (ST'd; Acid Attack Records) 21.Voivod-- "Forgotten in Space" (Killing Technology; Noise Records) 22.Farflung w/Nik Turner-- "Sonic Attack" (Live Strange Daze '99; Strange Trips Records; by request from Krissy) 23.Neu!-- "Hero" (Neu! '75; Germanafon Records) 24.Blue Oyster Cult-- "Baby Ice Dog" (Tyrrany and Mutation; Columbia Records) 25.Trephine MD-- "Toad Face" (Some Soundtracks EP; What's New in Baltimore? comp) 26.Defender-- Live @ the Empty Bottle 3/15/01 27.Ashra Tempel thanks, Chuck From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri May 4 15:11:46 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:11:46 -0400 Subject: HW tour dates and court case Message-ID: Thanks for the chat script Arin, Good news about the dates and Album! I find it amazing that the the organisers of Brixton are claiming that the fans didn't go to see Hawkwind, when its got the word HAWKWIND printed in BIG letters across the bloody Brixton ticket! Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Fri May 4 16:23:14 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 21:23:14 +0100 Subject: HW tour dates and court case Message-ID: Michael Crook wrote: > Thanks for the chat script Arin, Good news about the dates and Album! I find it amazing that the the organisers of Brixton are claiming that the fans didn't go to see Hawkwind, when its got the word HAWKWIND printed in BIG letters across the bloody Brixton ticket! I agree wholeheartedly. Time for a petition.... Here goes... ---- I went to the venue known as the "Brixton Academy" on 21st October 2000, as a paying ticket holder, to enjoy a perfomance by members past and present of a band named "Hawkwind" entitled "Hawkestra". I did not pay or knowingly intend to pay towards the overall cost of the production of the amplified sound produced by audio equipment present in the venue foyer. The volume/level of the sound emanating from this equipment which, in my opinion, had NO connection with the featured event, invaded the main performance area, throughout the entire duration of the performance, to the distraction and annoyance of many people, including myself, who paid to enjoy the performance by "Hawkwind". I, the undersigned, hereby propose that no portion of the money gained from the sale or otherwise of tickets for the aforementioned venue on the aforementioned date for the event known as "Hawkestra", performed by artists under the collective name of "Hawkwind", be awarded to the promoters/owners or associated agents of the audio equipment present in the venue foyer. Keith Barton - email: keithb at cinesite.co.uk ---- I'm not a lawyer so feel free to amend/append this statement as you see fit and pass it around to fellow Hawkwind fans, and back, to the people who've signed. Hey Dave & Kris, let us know when and where the case will be and we'll be there to provide support. Keef -- Thing Doer Phone:0207 973 4000 Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 London W1D 3BP mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 4 20:33:46 2001 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:33:46 -0400 Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation In-Reply-To: <200105020349.XAA26682@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >On Tue, 1 May 2001 23:28:58 EDT, Robert C. Mayo wrote: not so black and white but yes it was a concious decision to be a heavy band (there was no Metal then) and sonicly we were trying to be heavy in a way. The tongue in cheek thing was always there. It was who we are. How about Quicksand, Arthur Comics or Bonomo's for some nice in jokes? > >Joe Carducci summed it up pretty well in his BRILLIANT book, 'Rock and the >Pop Narcotic' (highly, highly recommended to the very intelligent fans on >this list): > >"Extra points awarded here for hiding behind what was taken to be crypto- >fascist fascia when in fact they were all five foot Jews from New York" > Oh he's so full of shit. I am not a fan of this book. He's the only pseudo fascist in that paragraph. From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 4 20:45:09 2001 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:45:09 -0400 Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation In-Reply-To: <3AEFFD76.3FF6CE3C@mitre.org> Message-ID: > >and the transformation of "I'm On The Lamb" to "The Red And The Black". >Albert can lend a good perspective on this (where is the guy these days, >anyway?), but he has said in the past that with their first 3 albums, >BOC was basically trying to "describe hell" musically. The first album I've been working on the Helen Wheels tribute album. It is now finished except for the mastering which will be done next week. I should have it out by the beginning of June. There are 12 songs and not a weak cut in the bunch. Everybody who's heard it (mostly the people who worked on it) has different favorites but it still has a lot of cohesiveness. I'm thinking of putting one song on MP3.com so folks can get an early taste of it. What does everybody think? From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 4 20:50:20 2001 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:50:20 -0400 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Potential tBS tour dates In-Reply-To: <3AEFFE3E.89F5F5EF@mitre.org> Message-ID: >The Brain Surgeons are rumored to be going on tour this summer (per >their website, Starting in NYC and going through the South and Midwest). > Deb recently posted on AOL that Philadelphia on July 1st is a good >possibility, and she also hinted at the possibility of a BOSTON date a >few days before that. > >Keeping my fingers crossed, and hoping that Albert will confirm, We have a possible Boston gig on June 29th but it's not nailed down yet. We have most of the southern dates confirmed including New Orleans and Chicago too. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Fri May 4 21:06:34 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 21:06:34 -0400 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Helen Wheels MP3s In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Can't wait to get it! >not a weak cut in the bunch. Everybody who's heard it (mostly the >people who worked on it) has different favorites but it still has a >lot of cohesiveness. I'm thinking of putting one song on MP3.com so >folks can get an early taste of it. What does everybody think? Short and long answer: YES. Back to prospectus fun ("Proving Political theory is full of hoohah.") Jason From AgentOF at AOL.COM Fri May 4 22:01:32 2001 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 22:01:32 EDT Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation Message-ID: In a message dated 5/4/2001 5:43:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM writes: << I'm thinking of putting one song on MP3.com so folks can get an early taste of it. What does everybody think? Yummy! chuck From maglorn at HOME.COM Fri May 4 23:28:01 2001 From: maglorn at HOME.COM (Daniel Ligon) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 23:28:01 -0400 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Potential tBS tour dates In-Reply-To: <3AEFFE3E.89F5F5EF@mitre.org>; from jswartz@MITRE.ORG on Wed, May 02, 2001 at 08:32:00AM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 08:32:00AM -0400, John A. Swartz wrote: > The Brain Surgeons are rumored to be going on tour this summer (per > their website, Starting in NYC and going through the South and Midwest). > Deb recently posted on AOL that Philadelphia on July 1st is a good > possibility, and she also hinted at the possibility of a BOSTON date a > few days before that. I hope he does well. There were only a dozen or so of us at the Jaxx show in Springfield last year. Nonetheless, tBS played a powerful set. -- Daniel Ligon maglorn at home.com We are in the hands of infinite power and infinite sadism. -- _Inferno_ From buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri May 4 23:41:01 2001 From: buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM (Rus Hall) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 23:41:01 -0400 Subject: More advice sought Message-ID: I have the urge to expand my meager supply of spacerock. This sale sounds like a pretty good deal, but there are so many choices. What should I buy? Looks like my interestes tend to the lighter/humourous side such as King Crimson, Hawkwind's Hall/Grill, Sonic Attack, and Masques (among others) Devo (sorry), Tangerine Dream, Darkest of the Hillside Thickets, and Porcupine Tree the heaviest is BOC and Monster Magnet. Any advice in that muddled synopsis? Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:08:52 +1200 From: Richard Stockwell Subject: Re: BOC-L Music Sale "If you are interested in progressive, psychedelic, spacerock, krautrock etc music's then Cranium Music is currently running a sale at 10% off all prices in their catalogue plus you will receive FREE airmail shipping anywhere in the world. Our order form uses PPG secure encryption & we accept credit cards. Visit http://www.cranium.co.nz or http://www.cranium-music.com to view our catalogue and hear sound samples. Album of the Month for May is "Omnia Opera - Red Shift" a spacerock classic". Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri May 4 23:22:07 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 23:22:07 -0400 Subject: More advice sought Message-ID: Rus asked... >I have the urge to expand my meager supply of spacerock. This sale sounds >like a pretty good deal, but there are so many choices. What should I buy? > >Looks like my interestes tend to the lighter/humourous side such as >King Crimson, Hawkwind's Hall/Grill, Sonic Attack, and Masques (among others) >Devo (sorry), Tangerine Dream, Darkest of the Hillside Thickets, >and Porcupine Tree > >the heaviest is BOC and Monster Magnet. > >Any advice in that muddled synopsis? Well, I just put in an order myself (the new Brainstorm, MandraGora Lightshow Society, and Liquid Visions), but I just went back and looked through it again to see what I might consider the most desirable (assuming I had nothing). All kinds of great stuff... Well, you can always fill in a few Porcupine Tree spots (if you don't have them already), like Coma Divine is very nice (live), and Signify is my favorite of theirs. And if you like hypnotic krautrock stuff (Neu!), then you might like the instrumental PT offshoot Incredible Expanding Mindfuck. I do. For Ozric-y stuff, there's many to choose from. Richard's got some Ozrics themselves of course, but then there's the awesome Texas band Liquid Sound Company (this is a must have!). Mr. Quimby's Beard is another you shouldn't miss. And the German 90s band Zone Six' S/T CD is very nice. A couple Delerium label bands are worth checking out. Kava Kava is the 'fun' sort of psychedelia you might like...very funky rhythms and a good singer. You Can Live Here is the one to get IMHO. Italy's Kryptasthesie (Inner Whirl) is another typically good Delerium band. Singer has an unusual accented voice that not everyone will probably like, but I do. If you are familiar with the instrumental space-jazz of Alien Planetscapes (and enjoy it) then you should be blown away by the amazing Heru Avenger ("New Aeon")...blazing 'space-jazz' guitar/pseudo-jazz-psych-fusion. And of course, you can't IMHO go without hearing Finland's Circle! Repetitive yes, boring no! Andexelt, Prospekt, Hissi - try any of these. Amazing band. Hissi probably has the most vocals...the others are mainly instrumental IIRC. And none of this I'd characterize as 'light'...pretty moody and dark. That shouldn't discourage you though. :) Frankfurt's S/T is amazing also. The lead singer is a goofball, and I imagine you might really like them. "The Difficult Second Album" features the track "Departure" which out-Hawkwinds Hawkwind IMHO. Blasphemy! Lightshine's Feeling is on the Garden of Delights label (old Krautrock gems), whom I 'work' for - so I'm partial, but it's fabulous and he's got it for a great price. (We have it too at www.aural-innovations.com) Richard's also got the first Primordial Undermind CD (the one on September Gurls I think, right Doug?), and even though Doug's not on it, it's my favorite. :) I imagine that it's hard to get, so that's a good reason right there. Guitar psych. Similar to this is Houston, TX's Linus Pauling Quartet (Killing You With Rock) - heavy psychedelia with crazy abandon. "Dance of the Bugpeople" is a total gas. Out-Guru Gurus Guru Guru. And of course, there's Gong - Camembert Electrique and/or Floating Anarchy Live '77 (with Here n Now). And for a modern dreamy shoegazery-space sound, there's Austin, TX's 7% Solution "Gabriel Waltz". The Porky Tree fan in you might like this laid-back spaced-out effort. Richard's own label has the fine stoner outfit Datura, which you might care for since you like Monster Magnet. And Moby Trip is an interesting listen. Just happy I don't have to buy all these over again. :) Grakkl (FAA) ObCD: Salvatore - Clingfilm (another Neu!-loving post-rock band...from Norway!) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 5 00:53:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:23:27 +0930 Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's Message-ID: heee hee heehee heehe 'hic-up' tee hee enough said ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 1:34 AM Subject: Re: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's > Michael W Blackman writes: > > > Even tho I am a proud member of the male species I have never > > undertood how a female who shags like a minx frequently is described > > as being slutty etc when the same bloke that looks down on her was the > > 'shagger' and frequently sows his oats allover town any time of the > > day week or month? > > Hard to say whether you seriously want an answer here but anyway: > > A) Biology dictates that male mammals cannot be sure of paternity, > particularly in humans where the fertile cycle of the female is hidden. > The only reassurance males have of paternity therefore is indication > that they are the sole sexual partner of the female. Males will > therefore pursue promiscuous females for sexual pleasure but will not > mate with them. That's the madonna/whore dichotomy in a nutshell. > In short the genes of males want to spread and that dictates mating with > lots of females. However when the male puts effort into raising kids, > there's a strong interest in being as sure as possible that they're his > (human cuckoldry rate is between 15 % and 20%). Selection of mates will > be made to minimise the risk of cuckoldry. > > B) The genes of females also want to spread as far as possible. Given > the behaviour of males, they therefore need sons who will spread those > genes. They'll therefore tend to select men with some propensity to > stray because that's where those genes will come from. If they tended to > avoid those men and selected instead stone age SNAG's then we'd all be > SNAG's. As a rule they don't and the more stable of the adventurous guys > get the babes. > > Not that this is all a result of concious decision. Evolution is too > smart to risk leaving this up to folks who'll pull stunts like inventing > Dating Codes and will sue for sexual harassment if someone's pupils get > too wide. Nope, it's hardwired down at the instinct level where it can't > be gainsaid. > > This, and other very interesting and non-PC stuff can be looked up under > "evolutionary psychology". > > > Have those people ever thought that the world might be less populated > > with shaggless desperate males if the females were not made to feely > > shitty about something that is perfectly natural and beautiful in its > > full glory? > > They generally don't. The world is populated by frustrated males because > women are around three times as selective as men when choosing a sexual > partner (I.E out of a roomful of people men would more or less happily > go home with three times as many of the women as the women would with > the men). The reasons for this are pretty much the above. > > Mike "Why be politically correct when you can be right?" Holmes From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 5 00:53:53 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:23:53 +0930 Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's Message-ID: awwwwww ----- Original Message ----- From: Alissa To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 1:37 AM Subject: Re: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's > what a crap topic? From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 5 00:59:14 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:29:14 +0930 Subject: HW tour dates and court case Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 5:53 AM Subject: Re: HW tour dates and court case > Michael Crook wrote: > > > Thanks for the chat script Arin, Good news about the dates and Album! I find it amazing that the the organisers of Brixton are claiming that the fans didn't go to see Hawkwind, when its got the word HAWKWIND printed in BIG letters across the bloody Brixton ticket! > > I agree wholeheartedly. > Time for a petition.... > > Here goes... > > ---- > I went to the venue known as the "Brixton Academy" on 21st October 2000, as a paying ticket holder, to enjoy a perfomance by members past and present of a band named "Hawkwind" entitled "Hawkestra". I did not pay or knowingly intend to pay towards the overall cost of > the production of the amplified sound produced by audio equipment present in the venue foyer. The volume/level of the sound emanating from this equipment which, in my opinion, had NO connection with the featured event, invaded the main performance area, throughout > the entire duration of the performance, to the distraction and annoyance of many people, including myself, who paid to enjoy the performance by "Hawkwind". > > I, the undersigned, hereby propose that no portion of the money gained from the sale or otherwise of tickets for the aforementioned venue on the aforementioned date for the event known as "Hawkestra", performed by artists under the collective name of "Hawkwind", be > awarded to the promoters/owners or associated agents of the audio equipment present in the venue foyer. > > Keith Barton - email: keithb at cinesite.co.uk > > > > ---- > > I'm not a lawyer so feel free to amend/append this statement as you see fit and pass it around to fellow Hawkwind fans, and back, to the people who've signed. > > Hey Dave & Kris, let us know when and where the case will be and we'll be there to provide support. > > Keef > Michael Blackman > flew from Australia to see Hawkwind @ The Brixton Academy > -- > Thing Doer Phone:0207 973 4000 > Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 > 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 > London W1D 3BP mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk > +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 5 04:47:06 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 18:17:06 +0930 Subject: OFF my face in eternal space Message-ID: Hi space doods Feel free to take a free tour around my free web page showing free pix from our free concert in April If you can send me an mp3 recording of yourself saying that 10 times at 150 bpm* (( Beats Per Minute )) then you will win all three Daleth CD releases and my ALIEN DREAM CD * Chipmunk recordings will be disqualified ((hahaha)) :) http://members.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Nexus.html Michael "Daleth" Blackman From g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK Sat May 5 05:48:32 2001 From: g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK (g.m.wright) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:48:32 +0100 Subject: Lounge AX Message-ID: Hi Colin, The cd arrived ok and I've now burnt a copy. Its back in the post heading to Merrick.(Hi Merrick) I'm mailing this to the chat site so everyone knows where the cd is. Thanks geoff geoff wright g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen To: g.m.wright Date: 28 April 2001 20:21 Subject: Lounge AX Hi Geoff, The Lounge AX CD is on its way to you. Regards, COLIN From Rob at JAZZBOX.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat May 5 08:02:09 2001 From: Rob at JAZZBOX.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Robert Robinson) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 13:02:09 +0100 Subject: HW gigs Message-ID: from the Totalrock news letter,these snippets:(all spellung mishtakes are their own...:-) > HAWKWIND HEADLINE FESTIVAL Hwakwind will headline the first night of the Rock & Blues Festival, which happens at Doningnton Park on June 22 and 23. Also appearing will be Wishbone Ash and Eddie & The Hot Rods. More news on who will be appearing on the second day shortly.<< > HAWKWIND CELEBRATE CANNIBIS Hawkwind will be one of the main attractions at the Free Cannibis Celebration Festival, which happens in Brockwell Park, Brixton, London on June 16. Tickets for the event costs just 99p, the emphasis being on the fight to legalise cannibis. << sounds like fun,now wheres my spellchecker... From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat May 5 08:54:12 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 08:54:12 -0400 Subject: HW: New Tour Dates Message-ID: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ++STAR WARRIORS Important new Hawkwind Stardates Announced Please update your logs accordingly MISSION CONTROL www.hawkwind.org.uk ++MESSAGE ENDS :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat May 5 09:07:16 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 09:07:16 EDT Subject: Sigur Ros NYC Message-ID: Sigur Ros will be playing in NYC on Tues May 8, 8PM, Irving Plaza. I'm off to the Adirondacks for some trout fishing. Yep, the simple life for me. All I need is my fly rod and wife. and my stash, and my walkman and my Hawkwind cds,and maybe a few fire eaters and maybe a small light show, and some dancing girls, and a small PA system and my picture of Brocky......and Best regards, Bill 'started early' Stewart From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Sat May 5 10:14:04 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:14:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Message-ID: Not having read the irc log makes it difficult to know exactly what's going on here, but this looks/sounds like it needs doing. So count me in !! (PS can I get a copy of the log in txt format from someone) I would like to know who the headline act were for the night in question, logic kind of dictates it was the act/s on the MAIN STAGE ? As far as I'm concerned the foyer 'act' was a waste of time and space and served simply to cause irritation as I passed through, and they damned well should NOT have been playing that loud with an act on the main stage simultaneously > I went to the venue known as the "Brixton Academy" on 21st October 2000, as a paying ticket holder, to enjoy a perfomance by members past and present of a band named "Hawkwind" entitled "Hawkestra". I did not pay or knowingly intend to pay towards the overall cost of > the production of the amplified sound produced by audio equipment present in the venue foyer. The volume/level of the sound emanating from this equipment which, in my opinion, had NO connection with the featured event, invaded the main performance area, throughout > the entire duration of the performance, to the distraction and annoyance of many people, including myself, who paid to enjoy the performance by "Hawkwind". > > I, the undersigned, hereby propose that no portion of the money gained from the sale or otherwise of tickets for the aforementioned venue on the aforementioned date for the event known as "Hawkestra", performed by artists under the collective name of "Hawkwind", be > awarded to the promoters/owners or associated agents of the audio equipment present in the venue foyer. > > Mark Lee mark at esparto.uk.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat May 5 11:56:15 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 16:56:15 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine Live: Paging Andy G Message-ID: Honstly don't remember - will cjheck it back - let you know Andy G ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 2:27 PM Subject: Silver Machine Live: Paging Andy G > I saw that on your latest list. What is it? > > FoFP From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat May 5 12:52:01 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:52:01 -0400 Subject: SLOTERDIJK seeking Friday and Saturday night gigs: Message-ID: Hello, although we have alloted certain dates for shows which are more than one days drive from New Jersey, we would like to announce, that we are available for Friday and Saturday night shows throughout the summer and fall. We can play gigs anywhere within one day's travel of New Jersey. Target areas are, northeastern PA, New Jersey, southeastern NY state, and Long Island, Conneticutt, Rhode Island, Delaware, Maryland and DC. Please contact us directly , if interested in booking, or drop a line via our mp3 site!!! Cheers, Sloterdijk www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Sat May 5 13:27:07 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 18:27:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Message-ID: Mark I have replied to you off-list with a transcript of the IRC chat and my take on the questions you asked Moonglum --Mark wrote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not having read the irc log makes it difficult to know exactly what's going on here, but this looks/sounds like it needs doing. So count me in !! (PS can I get a copy of the log in txt format from someone) I would like to know who the headline act were for the night in question, logic kind of dictates it was the act/s on the MAIN STAGE ? From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat May 5 15:34:54 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:34:54 -0500 Subject: OFF: BBC News | Computers burnt by CD software Message-ID: http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/sci/tech/newsid_1314000/1314122.stm From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Sat May 5 15:41:35 2001 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:41:35 EDT Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation Message-ID: In a message dated 05/04/2001 7:43:59 PM Central Daylight Time, ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > I'm thinking of putting one song on MP3.com so > folks can get an early taste of it. What does everybody think? > Go for it! From nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM Sat May 5 16:23:59 2001 From: nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM (Joseph Sardo) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 13:23:59 -0700 Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MP3ME Joe --- albert bouchard wrote: > > > >and the transformation of "I'm On The Lamb" to "The > Red And The Black". > >Albert can lend a good perspective on this (where > is the guy these days, > >anyway?), but he has said in the past that with > their first 3 albums, > >BOC was basically trying to "describe hell" > musically. The first album > > I've been working on the Helen Wheels tribute album. > It is now > finished except for the mastering which will be done > next week. I > should have it out by the beginning of June. There > are 12 songs and > not a weak cut in the bunch. Everybody who's heard > it (mostly the > people who worked on it) has different favorites but > it still has a > lot of cohesiveness. I'm thinking of putting one > song on MP3.com so > folks can get an early taste of it. What does > everybody think? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Sat May 5 17:45:56 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:45:56 +0100 Subject: Mike Coleman Message-ID: Hello, Has anyone there heard from Mike Coleman recently? Layla From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat May 5 17:48:49 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:48:49 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine Live: Paging Andy G Message-ID: It is another Demi Monde(?) release of rehashed tracks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Silver Machine Live: Paging Andy G > Honstly don't remember - will cjheck it back - let you know > Andy G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M Holmes" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 2:27 PM > Subject: Silver Machine Live: Paging Andy G > > > > I saw that on your latest list. What is it? > > > > FoFP > From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat May 5 17:54:31 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:54:31 +0100 Subject: Mike Coleman Message-ID: Yes, I had an e-mail from him today! Cheers, COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 10:45 PM Subject: Mike Coleman > Hello, > Has anyone there heard from Mike Coleman recently? > > > > Layla > From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun May 6 00:19:51 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 23:19:51 -0500 Subject: OFF: Fractal Gallery Message-ID: Really cool fractal images . . . http://web.pinknet.cz/fractal/frindex.html From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun May 6 02:59:00 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 16:29:00 +0930 Subject: HW gigs Message-ID: hey - that does sound groovy mannnnn ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Robinson To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 9:32 PM Subject: HW gigs > from the Totalrock news letter,these snippets:(all spellung mishtakes are > their own...:-) > > > > HAWKWIND HEADLINE FESTIVAL > Hwakwind will headline the first night of the Rock & Blues Festival, which > happens at Doningnton Park on June 22 and 23. Also appearing will be > Wishbone Ash and Eddie & The Hot Rods. More news on who will be appearing on > the second day shortly.<< > > > > HAWKWIND CELEBRATE CANNIBIS > Hawkwind will be one of the main attractions at the Free Cannibis > Celebration Festival, which happens in Brockwell Park, Brixton, London on > June 16. Tickets for the event costs just 99p, the emphasis being on the > fight to legalise cannibis. > << > sounds like fun,now wheres my spellchecker... > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun May 6 03:05:43 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 16:35:43 +0930 Subject: HW: New Tour Dates Message-ID: 10 Date mini tour huh??? Bags are packed - awaiting orders - SIR! My gypsy bones are aching for a wander - Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Rx To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 10:24 PM Subject: Re: HW: New Tour Dates > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ++STAR WARRIORS > > Important new Hawkwind Stardates Announced > Please update your logs accordingly > > MISSION CONTROL > www.hawkwind.org.uk > > ++MESSAGE ENDS > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun May 6 03:20:15 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 16:50:15 +0930 Subject: Sigur Ros NYC Message-ID: You must be my long lost brother !! except my wants include the band with the PA....... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Stewart To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: Sigur Ros NYC > Sigur Ros will be playing in NYC on Tues May 8, 8PM, Irving Plaza. > > I'm off to the Adirondacks for some trout fishing. Yep, the simple life for > me. All I need is my fly rod and wife. and my stash, and my walkman and my > Hawkwind cds,and maybe a few fire eaters and maybe a small light show, and > some dancing girls, and a small PA system and my picture of Brocky......and > > Best regards, > Bill 'started early' Stewart From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun May 6 03:32:35 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 17:02:35 +0930 Subject: HW: Brixton Message-ID: Does anyone have the email address & or mailing address of the Academy Perhaps we could write to them expressing our dissapointment in their actions and boycott their venue (( not that they'd give two smeggs about an aussie having a whinge :) )) ** Personal note ** It would be much better for Hawkwind if they didn't have to go thru the court systems because as we all know its always the lawyers that win. If only there was some way we could all have a say or have an impact on a most positive outcome in this matter? Any opinions or thoughts? Michael 'yehaa Serious' Blackman From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun May 6 03:35:52 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 17:05:52 +0930 Subject: Mike Coleman Message-ID: Not I - yet Mike B ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 7:15 AM Subject: Mike Coleman > Hello, > Has anyone there heard from Mike Coleman recently? > > > > Layla From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun May 6 10:31:44 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:31:44 -0400 Subject: BBC News | Computers burnt by CD software In-Reply-To: <3AF455DE.60B04573@execpc.com> Message-ID: Moral of this story is that Easy Creator 5 Platinum is a great program and that the W2000 operating system is complete drek Thanks for the warnings Karen Mike :::-----Original Message----- :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :::Behalf Of Karen Kusic :::Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 3:35 PM :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :::Subject: OFF: BBC News | Computers burnt by CD software ::: ::: :::http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/sci/tech/newsid_1314000/1314122.stm ::: From hw at CY-B.ORG Sun May 6 14:11:30 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:11:30 -0400 Subject: HW: IRC Message-ID: Any1 online to chat on the IRC chan? Dalnet channel #hawkwind.org.uk Rx From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Sun May 6 15:25:58 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:25:58 -0700 Subject: HW: Brixton Message-ID: Michael, here in California we have by far the highest propotion of lawers in relation to the state population of ant state in the U.S., about one person per thousand is an attorney - no wonder CA is going to hell in a handbasket. I loathe political correctness - you are no longer permitted to even smoke in bars anymore in CA. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael W Blackman To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton > Does anyone have the email address & or mailing address of the Academy > > Perhaps we could write to them expressing our dissapointment in their > actions and boycott their venue (( not that they'd give two smeggs about an > aussie having a whinge :) )) > > ** Personal note ** It would be much better for Hawkwind if they didn't have > to go thru the court systems because as we all know its always the lawyers > that win. > If only there was some way we could all have a say or have an impact on a > most positive outcome in this matter? > > Any opinions or thoughts? > > Michael 'yehaa Serious' Blackman From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Sun May 6 17:06:41 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 16:06:41 -0500 Subject: OFF Re: HW: Brixton: Californi-a Message-ID: California is well on its way to becoming the perfect state. No more guns, no more smoking, I'm sure bans on other things will follow. It's all for your own good and your protection. Like the warning in the microwave manual telling you not to put your infant or pets in the microwave to dry them. California is so lucky to have politicians taking care of all its needs. Luckily I'm in Minnesota, so I'm surrounded by loving liberal wackos too. > Michael, here in California we have by far the highest propotion of lawers > in relation to the state population of ant state in the U.S., about one > person per thousand is an attorney - no wonder CA is going to hell in a > handbasket. I loathe political correctness - you are no longer permitted to > even smoke in bars anymore in CA. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon May 7 00:16:15 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:46:15 +0930 Subject: IRC Message-ID: Anyone wanna have a yakity yoo? Mb From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon May 7 00:25:03 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:55:03 +0930 Subject: HW: Brixton Message-ID: I here that in Texas when a lawyer is introduced at a party they are pretty much shunned - not alot of respect going there way - Did you see that Erin Brokovitch movie - complete crock of Schmeggg - they really made themselves out to be such big sweeties doing the right thing for those poor people that had been put thru such hell - when in reality the lawyers and the firm got the majority of the money & they were hiring large cruising boats, with the court won money, to hold big parties None of the 'little people' got invited tho Lawyers & Hollywood! I will conced that i'm sure there must be some good hearted honest lawyers around - don't mean to sound totally cynical now. Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Moody To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 4:55 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton > Michael, here in California we have by far the highest propotion of lawers > in relation to the state population of ant state in the U.S., about one > person per thousand is an attorney - no wonder CA is going to hell in a > handbasket. I loathe political correctness - you are no longer permitted to > even smoke in bars anymore in CA. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael W Blackman > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 12:32 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton > > > > Does anyone have the email address & or mailing address of the Academy > > > > Perhaps we could write to them expressing our dissapointment in their > > actions and boycott their venue (( not that they'd give two smeggs about > an > > aussie having a whinge :) )) > > > > ** Personal note ** It would be much better for Hawkwind if they didn't > have > > to go thru the court systems because as we all know its always the lawyers > > that win. > > If only there was some way we could all have a say or have an impact on a > > most positive outcome in this matter? > > > > Any opinions or thoughts? > > > > Michael 'yehaa Serious' Blackman > From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Mon May 7 02:04:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 07:04:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam Fox Message-ID: So who's bought the Sam Fox CD with the video footage of HW at Brixton then? Any good? What's shown? Steve Litchfield From sebastian at WELTON.DE Mon May 7 03:41:41 2001 From: sebastian at WELTON.DE (Sebastian Welton) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 03:41:41 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond Message-ID: Thursday, May 17, 9am-Noon THE BEVIS FROND (http://members.rott.chello.nl/cvanderlely/bfrond.html) A special acoustic set by Nick Salamon and Adrian Shaw's long-running psychedelic pop extravaganza. On Rhubarb Cake with Douglas. WFMU broadcasts at 91.1 FM in the New York Metro area, at 90.1 FM in the Hudson Valley, Western Jersey and Northeast Pennsylvania, and on the Internet at http://www.wfmu.org. Cheers Seb From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon May 7 06:37:53 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 06:37:53 -0400 Subject: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade Message-ID: Well I know it died a death (still waiting for tape 1), but Juba sent me his track listing and it's beside the others at; http://the-rocker.freeservers.com/bitter/boc2000.html Stuart For some reason NP Anthrax cover of BEastie Boys Looking Down The Barrel Of A Gun From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon May 7 07:40:23 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 07:40:23 EDT Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Potential tBS tour dates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4 May 2001, at 20:50, albert bouchard wrote: > We have a possible Boston gig on June 29th but it's not nailed down > yet. We have most of the southern dates confirmed including New > Orleans and Chicago too. Any chance of getting to upstate NY this summer? What's the touring lineup? theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon May 7 08:21:14 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:21:14 -0400 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Potential tBS tour dates In-Reply-To: <3AF65167.5013.1E9C0F@localhost> Message-ID: Theo wrote: > Any chance of getting to upstate NY this summer? What's the > touring lineup? >From cellsum.com > Sunday, July 22 Rochester/Buffalo NY Thanks, Al, for coming back to Western NY! With all the Southern dates this time around I thought you'd miss our neck of the woods. Have you thought about playing Clayton again? Now that the North Country winter is over, I'm sure Deb wouldn't mind. ;-) Oh, and please put up the new MP3! Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon May 7 08:27:27 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:27:27 -0400 Subject: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade In-Reply-To: <200105071037.GAA23341@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Stuart wrote: > Well I know it died a death (still waiting for tape 1), but Juba sent me his > track listing and it's beside the others at; > http://the-rocker.freeservers.com/bitter/boc2000.html I only received one CD: yours. Thanks! :-) Now I know why I haven't received the next one.... I sent your mix on to Arin Komins a few months ago, so the trade managed to live for a while longer. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon May 7 10:33:21 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 09:33:21 -0500 Subject: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 7 May 2001, Brian Halligan wrote: :Subject: Re: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade : :Stuart wrote: :> Well I know it died a death (still waiting for tape 1), but Juba sent me his :> track listing and it's beside the others at; :> http://the-rocker.freeservers.com/bitter/boc2000.html : :I only received one CD: yours. Thanks! :-) Now I know why I haven't received :the next one.... I sent your mix on to Arin Komins a few months ago, so the :trade managed to live for a while longer. : :Brian : ...and I suck. I've got the cds that you sent me sitting in my office, waiting for me to get myself over to the post office. I'm sorry folks. I'll get it out soon. (I hope.) Arin (apologies apologies) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon May 7 10:53:24 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 00:23:24 +0930 Subject: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade Message-ID: We, too, have velvet whips - 8>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 12:03 AM Subject: Re: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade > On Mon, 7 May 2001, Brian Halligan wrote: > > :Subject: Re: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade > : > :Stuart wrote: > :> Well I know it died a death (still waiting for tape 1), but Juba sent me his > :> track listing and it's beside the others at; > :> http://the-rocker.freeservers.com/bitter/boc2000.html > : > :I only received one CD: yours. Thanks! :-) Now I know why I haven't received > :the next one.... I sent your mix on to Arin Komins a few months ago, so the > :trade managed to live for a while longer. > : > :Brian > : > > ...and I suck. I've got the cds that you sent me sitting in my office, > waiting for me to get myself over to the post office. > > I'm sorry folks. I'll get it out soon. (I hope.) > > Arin > (apologies apologies) > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon May 7 11:22:35 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:22:35 -0400 Subject: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I wrote: > :I sent your mix on to Arin Komins a few months ago, so the > :trade managed to live for a while longer. Arin replied: > ...and I suck. I've got the cds that you sent me sitting in my office, > waiting for me to get myself over to the post office. Ah ha! I firmly point my finger in your general direction.... ;-) Don't feel too badly, the whole BOC-L tape trade process has never been very successful. The most I've ever received is three tapes/CDs. Maybe next time we can all work something out through the "Neo Quark" list. If there is a next time. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon May 7 11:57:54 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:57:54 GMT Subject: OFF: King Tool? Message-ID: According to www.disciplineglobalmobile.com, King Crimson will be on tour later in the year with support from Tool. How different. --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon May 7 12:05:38 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:05:38 GMT Subject: OFF: Neu! York Times Message-ID: THis sunday's Arts and Leisure section was happy in proclaiming the remasters of Neu!'s first handful of Albums. Pretty ok article, desribing Krautrock, along w/ Kraftwerk,mentioning amon duul II,Faust, etc. More disturbing is the same paper also had an article about some theatre company (cant remember the name now.) in Austin TX which has staged performances of _Lipstick Traces_ by Greil "I'm cool cuz I write about rock and roll in an academic way" Marcus. Odd days, indeed. --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon May 7 13:07:16 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:07:16 EDT Subject: OFF: King Tool? In-Reply-To: <200105071557.f47FvsS10478@shell.acmenet.net> Message-ID: On 7 May 2001, at 15:57, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > According to www.disciplineglobalmobile.com, King Crimson will be on > tour later in the year with support from Tool. > > How different. Uh, Bolts, are you suggesting that Tool is opening for King Crimson? Got to be the other way 'round, eh? theo From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon May 7 13:36:53 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:36:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam Fox Message-ID: not out yet Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Litchfield" To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 7:04 AM Subject: HW: Sam Fox > So who's bought the Sam Fox CD with the video footage of HW at Brixton > then? > > Any good? What's shown? > > Steve Litchfield From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon May 7 14:41:36 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:41:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: King Tool? Message-ID: after the last Tool live album that walked all over the miserable carcass that was the Crimso live album, I'd be there just to see Tool!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Jackson" To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 6:07 PM Subject: Re: OFF: King Tool? > On 7 May 2001, at 15:57, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > > > According to www.disciplineglobalmobile.com, King Crimson will be on > > tour later in the year with support from Tool. > > > > How different. > > Uh, Bolts, are you suggesting that Tool is opening for King > Crimson? Got to be the other way 'round, eh? > > theo From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon May 7 14:20:39 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:20:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Girlschool, London Message-ID: Anyone else up for Girlschool at the Borderline this Thursday? Me and Carl are going. Should be an excuse to get lagered up if nothing else... ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon May 7 16:35:38 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:35:38 EDT Subject: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade Message-ID: In a message dated 5/7/01 3:38:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK writes: > http://the-rocker.freeservers.com/bitter/boc2000.html > Interesting! A few years ago I got a couple cassettes from someone...forgot who...I did send mine out to someone I think but never got a response...but also I did not pass on the tapes I got, so I kinda flaked out too... interested in "re-entering", how do i go about it? Chuck From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Mon May 7 17:01:15 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:01:15 +0100 Subject: HW tour dates and court case Message-ID: Excellent wording (pending advice from the band's lawyer!). Have already discussed with Arin using an online petition space to host this, e.g. http://www.petitiononline.com this is probably more manageable than trying to email all round the place....what do people think? Mooongluum PS I was not drunk on IRC...just gobby ---Keith Barton wrote:-------------------------------- Time for a petition.... Here goes... ---- I went to the venue known as the "Brixton Academy" on 21st October 2000, as a paying ticket holder, to enjoy a perfomance by members past and present of a band named "Hawkwind" entitled "Hawkestra". I did not pay or knowingly intend to pay towards the overall cost of the production of the amplified sound produced by audio equipment present in the venue foyer. The volume/level of the sound emanating from this equipment which, in my opinion, had NO connection with the featured event, invaded the main performance area, throughout the entire duration of the performance, to the distraction and annoyance of many people, including myself, who paid to enjoy the performance by "Hawkwind". I, the undersigned, hereby propose that no portion of the money gained from the sale or otherwise of tickets for the aforementioned venue on the aforementioned date for the event known as "Hawkestra", performed by artists under the collective name of "Hawkwind", be awarded to the promoters/owners or associated agents of the audio equipment present in the venue foyer. Keith Barton - email: keithb at cinesite.co.uk From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Mon May 7 17:09:33 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:09:33 +0100 Subject: HW gigs Message-ID: During chat with the band on the IRC channel on 3rd May I asked about the brockwell park thing and they said they are NOT playing it. but donnington is confirmed. see arin's log in the archives...extract of the extract follows: any new cd news? tour news? festival news? or anything else I can winnow out of you folks? Confirmed solstice festival gig on 22nd June at Donnington Park...was the Derby rock and Blues but moved because of foot and mouth ah cool. (humbly:) will u be at brockwell park 16th june? No not brockwell, but free fetival in Norwich on 4th August so don't go to brockwell park cuz marijuana monster is stalking the streets you know what he's after you know what he eats Moonglum ---Robert wrote:---------------------------------- from the Totalrock news letter,these snippets:(all spellung mishtakes are their own...:-) > HAWKWIND HEADLINE FESTIVAL Hwakwind will headline the first night of the Rock & Blues Festival, which happens at Doningnton Park on June 22 and 23. Also appearing will be Wishbone Ash and Eddie & The Hot Rods. More news on who will be appearing on the second day shortly.<< > HAWKWIND CELEBRATE CANNIBIS Hawkwind will be one of the main attractions at the Free Cannibis Celebration Festival, which happens in Brockwell Park, Brixton, London on June 16. Tickets for the event costs just 99p, the emphasis being on the fight to legalise cannibis. From novadrive at HOME.COM Mon May 7 19:09:02 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:09:02 -0700 Subject: HW tour dates and court case In-Reply-To: <000801c0d738$eea67280$2de72ac2@wznhfnxm> Message-ID: I recently read in PC Magazine (May 8, 2001) an article called "Viruses That Aren't: They may not destroy your data, but Internet chain letters waste time and resources." It lists a few examples of Internet hoaxes, including "5. A petition claiming you can sign it by adding your name and passing the message on. (No government or politician has ever taken seriously a petition that was not signed in ink.)" Obviously we're talking businesses and lawyers here, not government or politicians, but what is the track record of online petitions? Would this just be an exercise in futility, or might it really make some difference? KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Moonglum Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 2:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW tour dates and court case Excellent wording (pending advice from the band's lawyer!). Have already discussed with Arin using an online petition space to host this, e.g. http://www.petitiononline.com this is probably more manageable than trying to email all round the place....what do people think? Mooongluum PS I was not drunk on IRC...just gobby From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Mon May 7 19:27:26 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:27:26 -0500 Subject: HW tour dates and court case Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Sommers" To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 6:09 PM Subject: Re: HW tour dates and court case > I recently read in PC Magazine (May 8, 2001) an article called "Viruses That > Aren't: They may not destroy your data, but Internet chain letters waste > time and resources." It lists a few examples of Internet hoaxes, including > "5. A petition claiming you can sign it by adding your name and passing the > message on. (No government or politician has ever taken seriously a petition > that was not signed in ink.)" > Obviously we're talking businesses and lawyers here, not government or > politicians, but what is the track record of online petitions? Would this > just be an exercise in futility, or might it really make some difference? > > KevinSommers I agree. Also I think the best way to make your point is a phone call(or two) to the appropriate party. The next best way is a letter. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon May 7 22:29:58 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:29:58 EDT Subject: OFF Re: Californi-uh! Message-ID: In a message dated 5/6/01 1:58:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET writes: > > Michael, here in California we have by far the highest propotion of lawers > > in relation to the state population of ant state in the U.S., about one > > person per thousand is an attorney - no wonder CA is going to hell in a > > handbasket. I loathe political correctness - you are no longer permitted > to > > even smoke in bars anymore in CA. > > who wrote this? 100% agreed! now and then you find a club that will allow it, but it's all top-secret...like prohibition, but w/cigarettes. it's ok, i guess...i just try to think of it as another challenge. Also, Californians don't talk to each other. It's real swell. CaliChuck NP: farflung (of course) From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon May 7 22:48:11 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:48:11 EDT Subject: OFF: Specing Being/ST 37 Message-ID: Not a show to miss!! Wish I lived in Austin... Chuck -- Scott Telles wrote: > Hello everyone! > Just a lil' note to let you know about the big > rock > show we're putting on: > > Thursday May 10 > Red Eyed Fly > 715 Red River St. > Austin TX > 512-473-BUGG > > CURSE OF BLEFUSCU (10.00) > SPECIES BEING (11.00) > ST 37 (12.00) > > Species Being are our friends from San Francisco. > They > are an excellent improvisatory/experimental/space > band > who will really take you far, far out there. Check > out > their new CD "Orgone Therapy" at > www.chaosophyrecords.com. Curse of Blefuscu are a > very, very good improvisatory band who, like Species > Being, are also completely instrumental, so, in > keeping with the spirit of the evening, ST 37 has > also > decided to ban vocals from the set. So, there will > be > no whiny, annoying lyrics to harsh your party head. > Come on out! > If you can't make Thursday's show, please come > see Species Being at their instore performance on > Wednesday May 9th at 6.00 pm at Thirty Three > Degrees, > 4017 Guadalupe. > Thanks for yer time, > scott/ST 37 > as usual, if you want off this list, please e-mail > me. > hey kidz....frank from species being here...... we're takin a lil' trip and thought maybe you'd like to join us along the way (or if you ain't in these towns tell a friend who is) sun may 6th - san diego ca - the casbah tues. may 8th - tucson az - solar cultural gallery wed. may 9th - austin tx - 33 degrees (in store) thurs may10th - austin tx - red eye fly's fri may 11th - denton tx - rubber gloves sat may 12th - norman ok - medicine hall sun may 13th - kansas city mo - the hurricane mon may 14th - denver co - 15th st tavern tues may 15th - salt lake city, ut - ya butts wed may 16th - reno, nv - the zephyr sun may 20th - san francisco, ca - bottom of the hill that last date at bottom of the hill in s.f. is a bbq w/ the japanese noise group ybo ybo....that will be our last show for a real long time as i focus on sleepytime gorilla museum for a while so pleeeeeeeeeeze come check it out!!! the line up this time is matt lebofsky of vaccination records artists mumble and peg on bass, jai young kim (from the species record "orgone therapy") on keyboards, and myself on drums fg -- Chaosophy Records 915 Cole St. Box 307 San Francisco, CA 94117 www.chaosophyrecords.com info at chaosophyrecords.com --part1_8c.64c99c7.2828b5e1_boundary-- From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 8 00:50:40 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:20:40 +0930 Subject: HW tour dates and court case Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Moonglum To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:31 AM Subject: Re: HW tour dates and court case Excellent wording (pending advice from the band's lawyer!). Have already discussed with Arin using an online petition space to host this, e.g. http://www.petitiononline.com this is probably more manageable than trying to email all round the place....what do people think? Mooongluum PS I was not drunk on IRC...just gobby ---Keith Barton wrote:-------------------------------- Time for a petition.... Here goes... ---- I went to the venue known as the "Brixton Academy" on 21st October 2000, as a paying ticket holder, to enjoy a perfomance by members past and present of a band named "Hawkwind" entitled "Hawkestra". I did not pay or knowingly intend to pay towards the overall cost of the production of the amplified sound produced by audio equipment present in the venue foyer. The volume/level of the sound emanating from this equipment which, in my opinion, had NO connection with the featured event, invaded the main performance area, throughout the entire duration of the performance, to the distraction and annoyance of many people, including myself, who paid to enjoy the performance by "Hawkwind". I, the undersigned, hereby propose that no portion of the money gained from the sale or otherwise of tickets for the aforementioned venue on the aforementioned date for the event known as "Hawkestra", performed by artists under the collective name of "Hawkwind", be awarded to the promoters/owners or associated agents of the audio equipment present in the venue foyer. Keith Barton - email: keithb at cinesite.co.uk Michael Blackman - email: michaelangelo68 at ozemail.com.au From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 8 00:51:50 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:21:50 +0930 Subject: HW gigs Message-ID: Was this IRC event with the band posted in advance or was it a private gathering? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Moonglum To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:39 AM Subject: Re: HW gigs During chat with the band on the IRC channel on 3rd May I asked about the brockwell park thing and they said they are NOT playing it. but donnington is confirmed. see arin's log in the archives...extract of the extract follows: any new cd news? tour news? festival news? or anything else I can winnow out of you folks? Confirmed solstice festival gig on 22nd June at Donnington Park...was the Derby rock and Blues but moved because of foot and mouth ah cool. (humbly:) will u be at brockwell park 16th june? No not brockwell, but free fetival in Norwich on 4th August so don't go to brockwell park cuz marijuana monster is stalking the streets you know what he's after you know what he eats Moonglum ---Robert wrote:---------------------------------- from the Totalrock news letter,these snippets:(all spellung mishtakes are their own...:-) > HAWKWIND HEADLINE FESTIVAL Hwakwind will headline the first night of the Rock & Blues Festival, which happens at Doningnton Park on June 22 and 23. Also appearing will be Wishbone Ash and Eddie & The Hot Rods. More news on who will be appearing on the second day shortly.<< > HAWKWIND CELEBRATE CANNIBIS Hawkwind will be one of the main attractions at the Free Cannibis Celebration Festival, which happens in Brockwell Park, Brixton, London on June 16. Tickets for the event costs just 99p, the emphasis being on the fight to legalise cannibis. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 8 01:36:22 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 15:06:22 +0930 Subject: any poets out there - or even poetry lovers? OFF F F F F Message-ID: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/poetry.htm#top then feel free to peruse my up the POETS CORNER and if you wish email me with any submissions you may have and would like to include...... Your patronage is appreciated :) Mb ps please let me know if you have any troubles getting thru - shouldn't tho Mb From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 8 06:07:24 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:07:24 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine Live: Paging Andy G In-Reply-To: Colin Allen's message of Sat, 5 May 2001 22:48:49 +0100 Message-ID: Colin Allen writes: > > > I saw that on your latest list. What is it? > It is another Demi Monde(?) release of rehashed tracks. Well yes, but for us Keepers of the Codex, it's important to know which tracks have been rehashed. That way everyone else will get to know and be able to choose to avoid buying them. FoFP P.S: Talking to a drinking buddy yesterday. He said he'd been out and bought a Hawkwind live CD and had taken it back to the shop because the sound was so awful. Our friend Yuri again I suspect. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 8 06:10:09 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:10:09 +0100 Subject: OFF Re: HW: Brixton: Californi-a In-Reply-To: Dan Witt's message of Sun, 6 May 2001 16:06:41 -0500 Message-ID: Dan Witt writes: > California is well on its way to becoming the perfect state. No more guns, > no more smoking, I'm sure bans on other things will follow. It's all for > your own good and your protection. Like the warning in the microwave manual > telling you not to put your infant or pets in the microwave to dry them. > California is so lucky to have politicians taking care of all its needs. Yeah, the pols were so advanced that they tried to sell electricity on the Dotcom business model: Buy At Twenty, Sell At Ten, and Make it Up on Volume. FoFP From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue May 8 08:38:47 2001 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:38:47 +0100 Subject: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 May 2001 11:22:35 EDT." Message-ID: > Ah ha! I firmly point my finger in your general direction.... ;-) > > Don't feel too badly, the whole BOC-L tape trade process has never been very > successful. The most I've ever received is three tapes/CDs. Tape Swap 2000 ended up pretty much DOA. Unfortunately the chain was broken by a couple of folks unsubbing just after it started. FWIW I could dig out the forwarding list if people want to try & resucitate it. I'll upload my track selection to Stuart too. No idea where my tape ended. Still waiting on your tape Alun :-) Tim From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue May 8 08:40:13 2001 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:40:13 +0100 Subject: OFF: Girlschool, London In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 May 2001 19:20:39 BST." Message-ID: > Anyone else up for Girlschool at the Borderline this Thursday? Me and Carl > are going. Should be an excuse to get lagered up if nothing else... ;) > > -- Andy I'm busy thursday. Off to the theatre! I'll probably be lagered up anyway Tim From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue May 8 08:53:31 2001 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:53:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: King Tool? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 May 2001 19:41:36 BST." <013d01c0d725$592172e0$8b13bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: > after the last Tool live album that walked all over the miserable carcass > that was the Crimso live album, I'd be there just to see Tool!!! > Andy Garibaldi what Tool live album are you on about ??? AFAIK there's no such thing ever released. Tim From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Tue May 8 09:42:08 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:42:08 +0100 Subject: HW tour dates and court case Message-ID: Kevin Sommers wrote: > I recently read in PC Magazine (May 8, 2001) an article called "Viruses That > Aren't: They may not destroy your data, but Internet chain letters waste > time and resources." It lists a few examples of Internet hoaxes, including > "5. A petition claiming you can sign it by adding your name and passing the > message on. (No government or politician has ever taken seriously a petition > that was not signed in ink.)" > Obviously we're talking businesses and lawyers here, not government or > politicians, but what is the track record of online petitions? Would this > just be an exercise in futility, or might it really make some difference? > Well there's no harm in trying... From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue May 8 09:50:31 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:50:31 -0500 Subject: NIK cd Message-ID: HI EVERYONE, I have a extra copy of MAZLYN JONES and GUY EVANS with NIK TURNER and friends. It is still factory sealed. I would prefer a trade than to sell. Anyone interested? NIK plays on 3 tracks. CHEERS STEPHE From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue May 8 09:56:15 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:56:15 -0500 Subject: HW gigs In-Reply-To: <006001c0d77d$38a51280$d8cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 May 2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: :Subject: Re: HW gigs : :Was this IRC event with the band posted in advance or was it a private :gathering? : :Mb It was just a standard "log on and see who's on the channel". It wasn't an "official" chat, so no advance notice ;-) Arin (everyone likes to chat sometime without pressure ;-) ) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue May 8 10:09:28 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:09:28 -0500 Subject: HW tour dates and court case In-Reply-To: <3AF7F7B0.9773D483@cinesite.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 May 2001, Keith Barton wrote: :Subject: Re: HW tour dates and court case : :Kevin Sommers wrote: : :> I recently read in PC Magazine (May 8, 2001) an article called "Viruses That :> Aren't: They may not destroy your data, but Internet chain letters waste :> time and resources." It lists a few examples of Internet hoaxes, including :> "5. A petition claiming you can sign it by adding your name and passing the :> message on. (No government or politician has ever taken seriously a petition :> that was not signed in ink.)" :> Obviously we're talking businesses and lawyers here, not government or :> politicians, but what is the track record of online petitions? Would this :> just be an exercise in futility, or might it really make some difference? :> : :Well there's no harm in trying... My 2 cents: I think we should wait to find out what the band's lawyer wants us to do. Anything before that is probably just wasted effort.... Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Tue May 8 10:16:56 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 15:16:56 +0100 Subject: HW tour dates and court case Message-ID: Arin Komins wrote: > My 2 cents: > > I think we should wait to find out what the band's lawyer wants us to do. > > Anything before that is probably just wasted effort.... > Good point! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 8 13:39:08 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 03:09:08 +0930 Subject: HW gigs Message-ID: I had better login more often then ;>) Thanks! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: Re: HW gigs > On Tue, 8 May 2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: > > :Subject: Re: HW gigs > : > :Was this IRC event with the band posted in advance or was it a private > :gathering? > : > :Mb > > It was just a standard "log on and see who's on the channel". It wasn't > an "official" chat, so no advance notice ;-) > > Arin > (everyone likes to chat sometime without pressure ;-) ) > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Tue May 8 13:56:30 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:56:30 -0700 Subject: OFF: King Tool? Message-ID: > > > after the last Tool live album that walked all over the miserable carcass > > that was the Crimso live album, I'd be there just to see Tool!!! > > Andy Garibaldi > > what Tool live album are you on about ??? AFAIK there's no such thing ever > released. > Ah, let me enlighten you. Hie thee off to thy favorite Shop of Recordings and thence aquire the recently released _Salival_ box. This contains a great cd with live tracks, and a video compilation on either VHS or DVD. I'm curious as to what you actually get on the VHS version, and the sequencing. I've got the DVD, and the navigation is, well, peculiar..... Fans of Tim Burton will probably love the videos, that's what first attracted me to it; I saw about 5 seconds of one on an awards show and had to see more. scorch From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue May 8 13:55:01 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:55:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: Hi there... Kinda slow on the list. These are the world's 10 best drummers, ordered alphabetically. Right? John Bonham, RIP Richard Chadwick Stewart Copeland Sami Kuoppamaki Jaki Liebezeit Chris Maitland Mani Neumeier Cozy Powell, RIP Scott Rockenfield Christian Vander Honorable mention to those drummers that are more likely to be on my list of favorite guitarists/singer-songwriters.... Adrian Belew* Al Bouchard Roger Taylor Grakkl (FAA) *only picked up a guitar because he broke his leg and couldn't play drums for a long time. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue May 8 15:15:51 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 15:15:51 EDT Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <200105081907.PAA17621@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On 8 May 2001, at 13:55, K Henderson wrote: > These are the world's 10 best drummers, ordered alphabetically. > Right? > > John Bonham, RIP > Richard Chadwick > Stewart Copeland > Sami Kuoppamaki > Jaki Liebezeit > Chris Maitland > Mani Neumeier > Cozy Powell, RIP > Scott Rockenfield > Christian Vander > Dead guys shouldn't count, IMHO. Here's a list of drummers I like, in no particular order: Albert [duh!] Reed Mullins [I think--the guy in C.O.C.] Carl Palmer Terry Bozio Richie Heyward more to follow... theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue May 8 15:30:36 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 15:30:36 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <200105081907.PAA17621@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Billy Cobham should be in there somewhere. And I'd swap Cozy Powell with Al. Also for consideration: Ginger Baker (I really like his drumming on Levitation, BTW.) Ian Paice (Example: the intro to Fireball. And his fill before the 2nd verse of Strange Kind of Woman still gives me chills.) > These are the world's 10 best drummers, ordered alphabetically. Right? > > John Bonham, RIP > Richard Chadwick > Stewart Copeland > Sami Kuoppamaki > Jaki Liebezeit > Chris Maitland > Mani Neumeier > Cozy Powell, RIP > Scott Rockenfield > Christian Vander > > Honorable mention [...] > Adrian Belew* The second best "V-Drummer" and guitarist in King Crimson. ;-) Seriously though, I agree he's a great guitarist and songwriter. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Tue May 8 16:05:31 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:05:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: simon king in my honest opinion is the best hawkwind drummer there ever was! colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 8:30 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Drummers > Billy Cobham should be in there somewhere. And I'd swap Cozy Powell with Al. > > Also for consideration: > Ginger Baker > (I really like his drumming on Levitation, BTW.) > > Ian Paice > (Example: the intro to Fireball. And his fill before the 2nd verse of > Strange Kind of Woman still gives me chills.) > > > These are the world's 10 best drummers, ordered alphabetically. Right? > > > > John Bonham, RIP > > Richard Chadwick > > Stewart Copeland > > Sami Kuoppamaki > > Jaki Liebezeit > > Chris Maitland > > Mani Neumeier > > Cozy Powell, RIP > > Scott Rockenfield > > Christian Vander > > > > Honorable mention [...] > > Adrian Belew* > > The second best "V-Drummer" and guitarist in King Crimson. ;-) Seriously > though, I agree he's a great guitarist and songwriter. > > Brian > > -- > Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower > MP3 Radio > Updated Semi-Occasionally > http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html > From StevenTice at AOL.COM Tue May 8 16:11:57 2001 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:11:57 EDT Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: In a message dated 05/08/2001 3:07:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > These are the world's 10 best drummers, Well, if by "best" you mean most proficient, you're clearly missing some of the best drummers such as Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, and Billy Cobham... SET From joe.e at TELIA.COM Tue May 8 16:13:10 2001 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:13:10 +0200 Subject: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade Message-ID: At 06:37 2001-05-07 -0400, you wrote: >Well I know it died a death (still waiting for tape 1), but Juba sent me his track listing and it's beside the others at; > >http://the-rocker.freeservers.com/bitter/boc2000.html > >Stuart >For some reason NP Anthrax cover of BEastie Boys Looking Down The Barrel Of A Gun well, I had a look at Juba's tracklist, and become somewhat nostalgic in the May sunshine. I also had that Sir Lord Baltimore/Kingdom Come on my tape. I dug up my TapeSwap '99 file, and found those goodies: I think this particular tape left the Swap Circle because it was stolen in a car in the U.S. peace and levitation, .joe ---------------------------------------------------- boc-l swap tape project 1999: entitled "Scenes from Chaotica" A: Iron (Wo)Man '90 Mobile Whorehouse Why Dontcha '72 West Bruce & Laing Get Yourself Together '71 Freedom Julia?s Dream '74 Neon Rose The Eleventh Hour '82 Bakerandband Where are We Going? '71 Sir Lord Baltimore Suicide '72 Dust Escalator '69 Sam Gopal Trollmors Vaggvisa '97 Black Ingvars For Mad Men Only '71 May Blitz Secret Power '76 Creation Hearts of Fire '76 Baker Gurwitz Army B: Buzzard '75 Armageddon Men Mitt Hj?rta skall vara Gjort av Sten / Asthamahgurchk '71 November Paranoid '90 Oven & Stove Stick Heat '71 Toe Fat Ride the Sky '73 Lucifers Friend Butter Queen '72 Three Man Army (excerpts from) Death Warmed Up '69 High Tide Martian Boogie '77 Brownsville Station Kingdom Come '72 Sir Lord Baltimore Plastic Shotgun '72 Night Sun From coral at APORT.RU Tue May 8 16:22:10 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 00:22:10 +0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: Richard Chadwick Simon King Thomen Stauch Hellhammer Horgh From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue May 8 15:14:50 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 15:14:50 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: >In a message dated 05/08/2001 3:07:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > >> These are the world's 10 best drummers, > >Well, if by "best" you mean most proficient, you're clearly missing some of >the best drummers such as Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, and Billy Cobham... Hell, no, not the most proficient. I put Cozy Powell on there for chrissakes! :) I meant 'best' in a very tongue-in-cheek "Like I'm the one to say, and you're not" kinda way. :) Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Neil Peart and Simon Phillips didn't make my list (and these three you mention also), so lots of flair and technical ability not required. And also that Bozzio guy (I saw him with Jeff Beck years ago, and thought he was indeed excellent, but I don't know any of 'his' work...only his wife's, sad to say.) From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue May 8 16:45:18 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 15:45:18 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: Hey folks, Does anyone have the lyrics for Sadness Runs Deep (from Electric Tepee?) Also, in Mask of the Morning, does anyone know what is said between the two main lyric parts, ie. (a variant of the mirror of illusion: In the cold grey-mask of morning I cry out But you don't hear the sounds that I shout and you don't see me through the tears you've shed All you hear are the voices in your head. In the dream-world that you've found Will one day drag you down The mirror of illusion reflects the smile In the dream-world that you've found Will one day drag you down The mirror of illusion reflects the smile The world from your back door seems so wide The house, so tiny it is from inside A box that you're still living in I cannot see for why You think you've found perception's doors but they open to a lie. In the dream-world that you've found Will one day drag you down The mirror of illusion reflects the smile In the dream-world that you've found Will one day drag you down The mirror of illusion reflects the smile then some stuff then the above stuff repeated. Anyone know what the "some stuff" is? Arin (guess what I'm listening to ;-) ) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Tue May 8 16:48:42 2001 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:48:42 +0200 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <000901c0d7fc$90739c00$7103efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: Neil Peart Pierre Moerlen (For God's sake!!!!) Simon King Bill Bruford (as long as he keeps away from that bleedin' Jazz-rock stuff) Kenneth ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From coral at APORT.RU Tue May 8 16:59:31 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 00:59:31 +0400 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: > Does anyone have the lyrics for Sadness Runs Deep (from Electric Tepee?) Sadness Runs Deep Brock I have the dream in the palm of my hand but if I fell off that tightrope on which side would I land? Insecurity and freedom, it's a narrow path don't know what she wants now ('cos I've ) forgotten how to laugh. Frightening thoughts spin, around my head betrayal and misery, things that were said deep-down inside me the sadness runs deep the only release from the torture comes when I'm asleep all of these feelings are trapped deep-down inside for you it's a joke now I've got nowhere to hide. Send someone to help me, I'm lonely and I'm scared I was gonna pile up, my emotions they were bared my weak points they were noted, put away for future use she says that she loves me, as she tightens up the noose. From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue May 8 17:07:59 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:07:59 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics In-Reply-To: <000701c0d801$c82af800$7103efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 May 2001, Alissa wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: lyrics : :> Does anyone have the lyrics for Sadness Runs Deep (from Electric Tepee?) : :Sadness Runs Deep :Brock :I have the dream in the palm of my hand :but if I fell off that tightrope on which side would I land? :Insecurity and freedom, it's a narrow path :don't know what she wants now :('cos I've ) forgotten how to laugh. :Frightening thoughts spin, around my head :betrayal and misery, things that were said :deep-down inside me the sadness runs deep :the only release from the torture comes when I'm asleep :all of these feelings are trapped deep-down inside :for you it's a joke now I've got nowhere to hide. : :Send someone to help me, :I'm lonely and I'm scared :I was gonna pile up, :my emotions they were bared :my weak points they were noted, :put away for future use :she says that she loves me, :as she tightens up the noose. Thanks Alissa! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue May 8 18:05:41 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 18:05:41 -0400 Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation Message-ID: On Fri, 4 May 2001 20:33:46 -0400, albert bouchard wrote: [quoting ceres at sirius.com] >>Joe Carducci summed it up pretty well in his BRILLIANT book, 'Rock and the >>Pop Narcotic' (highly, highly recommended to the very intelligent fans on >>this list): >> >>"Extra points awarded here for hiding behind what was taken to be crypto- >>fascist fascia when in fact they were all five foot Jews from New York" > >Oh he's so full of shit. I am not a fan of this book. If he wrote that kind of shit about my wife (uh ... waitaminit ...), I'd feel the same way, too. (He is NOT a fan of Village Voice music critics.) >He's the only pseudo fascist in that paragraph. Heh heh ... THAT's the truth! (Although next to a certain fanzine editor in Western PA [who edits a GREAT 'zine, despite his -uh- world outlook], Carducci IS a tree-hugging feminist socialist multi-culturalist ... but he doesn't have the excuse of having lived his whole life in his mother's basement.) As for his book 'Rock and the Pop Narcotic', it's the *only* place I've ever read someone accurately describe the essence of what makes great rock and roll GREAT (or really even try). Even though the second half of the book (where he dissects what makes the great bands tick and describes many comprehensively) is definitely more essential than the first (where he spends too much time, yep, attacking Village Voice critics and feminists/multiculuralists/blahblah), someone needs to take to task those who write about everything *except* the music in their criticism (hello, Gina Arnold!). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue May 8 18:15:08 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 18:15:08 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: On Tue, 8 May 2001 16:11:57 EDT, Steven Tice wrote: >> These are the world's 10 best drummers, > >Well, if by "best" you mean most proficient, you're clearly missing some of >the best drummers such as Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, and Billy Cobham... Proficiency, schmoficienty. I'll take Ringo, Nick Knox, Mo Tucker, Charlie Watts, or anyone who played in Black Flag over any of the "most proficient". Ten drummers I could watch all night include ... Elvin Jones Rashid Ali Hal Blaine Keith Moon Twink Jaki Leibznit Simon King Iwao Yamazaki Chris Guttmacher Bob Lee (apologies for any spelling errors) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue May 8 18:37:38 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 23:37:38 +0100 Subject: Drummers In-Reply-To: <200105081907.PAA17621@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: > John Bonham, RIP > Richard Chadwick John Convertino > Stewart Copeland > Sami Kuoppamaki > Jaki Liebezeit > Chris Maitland > Mani Neumeier > Cozy Powell, RIP > Scott Rockenfield > Christian Vander -- Andy www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue May 8 18:42:49 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 23:42:49 +0100 Subject: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.20010508215655.1f7fd3d2@m1.171.telia.com> Message-ID: I don't know, but this selection ruled. Absolutely no crap and every one a gem: Side 1 "4 ft. Car" - Chris Morris, from BLUE JAM "The eight rules" - Dust Bros. feat. Brad Pitt - trailer for the movie FIGHT CLUB "Piece of Crap" - Neil Young and Crazy Horse, from SLEEPS WITH ANGELS "The Way of the Samurai" - The RZA feat. Forest Whittaker, from the soundtrack to the movie GHOST DOG: THE WAY OF THE SAMURAI "A Perfect Teenhood" - ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead, from MADONNA "Cocoon" - Joydrop, from METASEXUAL "Eternity is a Very Long Time" - Mick Farren's Tijuana Bible, from GRINGO MADNESS "Morena di mi corazon" - Los Lobos, from the soundtrack to the movie DESPERADO "Banderilla" - Calexico, b-side of the "Service and Repair" single "Walking Song" - Meredith Monk, feat. Jeff Bridges and Julianne Moore, from the soundtrack to the movie THE BIG LEBOWSKI "From on High" - The New Christs, from LOWER YOURSELF "Silver Machine" - Hijokaidan, from TAPES "Acupuncture" - Chris Morris, from BLUE JAM "Hey Hey We're the Junkies" - Chumbawamba, from WYSIWYG Side 2 "Wish You Were Her" by Cousteau, from the album COUSTEAU "End of the Rainbow" by Barbara Manning, from the album 1212 "R?ver" by Myl?ne Farmer, from the album ANAMORPHOS?E "Le paradis blanc" by V?ronique Sanson, from the album D'UN PAPILLON ? UNE ?TOILE "Pale Blonde Hell" by Chris Cacavas and Junk Yard Love, from the album PALE BLONDE HELL "Four Door Maverick" by Howe Gelb, from the album HISSER "The World" by Amar, from the album OUTSIDE "Shine" by Jessica Bailiff, from the album EVEN IN SILENCE "Come Around" by The Mutton Birds, from the album ENVY OF ANGELS "I Knew I'd Want You" by Thin White Rope, from the SQUATTER'S RIGHTS EP "All Of Me" by Mo?i?ur J?niusdott?r, from the album L?GIN VI? VINNUNA "Love Me Tender" by Elvis Presley, from the album ELVIS PRESLEY (bonus track on remaster) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Tue May 8 19:09:40 2001 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:09:40 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >In a message dated 05/08/2001 3:07:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > > >> These are the world's 10 best drummers, > >Well, if by "best" you mean most proficient, you're clearly missing some of >the best drummers such as Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, and Billy Cobham... How about Carter Beauford Dennis Chambers Joe Morrello Lars Ulrich? As far as dead guys there's Chick Webb Gene Krupa Baby Dodds (the inventor of the drum kit) Mel Taylor and Howie Johnson (Ventures) Tony Williams Jeff Porcaro OK, OK, I'll stop now. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue May 8 21:22:21 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:22:21 EDT Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: and, once again, i dont see hal blaine... "<>" From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue May 8 22:44:42 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:44:42 -0400 Subject: OFF:was BOC:fakes? now supergroovalisticROCKCRITifunkstication :) In-Reply-To: <200105082205.SAA01560@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Ah... now we've gone and done it; An OFF topic that my goofball ego that I have to comment on. God(zilla) help us all. >If he wrote that kind of shit about my wife (uh ... waitaminit ...), He wrote your wife was not a Nazi and under 5 foot tall? :) The Village Voice, lest we ferget, is where Robert Christgau rules the roost -- he's been at it long enough to have many opposing writers write about him. (R.C. did an interesting review/rejoinder of his treatment in Meltzer's A Whore Just Like the Rest (among other things). it's findable at {start shamelesspageplug} http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/ungodlyvision/rants/article7.htm (Its near the bottom w/ the listing of R. Metlzer's books availible.) (Dig it! OVER 1,000 hits!! woohoo! Click early and click often!) >As for his book 'Rock and the Pop Narcotic', it's the *only* place I've >ever read someone accurately describe the essence of what makes great rock >and roll GREAT (or really even try). Regardless of being slapped with a "Metlzerfanboy" label, In my not humble- why do that?- opinion, (after doing a lit. review a political theory paper on punk no less) that most of the books (still in print or OOP and in libraries that try to do that capturing/marginal describing thing Fail with a capital f. The only thing that does the job is a Record, or CD or cassette or 8 track. But as far as written word attempts, I gotta admit that THe Aestetics of Rock does the good job because it doesnt try to describe with a systemaic academic rigidity something which for all intents and purposes is as chaotic as love-filled dance floor ringed by Marshall amps. (I obviously have not been dancing in a while.) This is the sort of conversational thing that could spawn a jillion OFF: emails to BOC-L, So that's all I'll say about that (and hope such a prediction does not come true. heheh) Burnin' in the heat of competition, Jason From tclark at PETRONET.NET Tue May 8 22:53:01 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:53:01 -0500 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: And no-one mentioned Ginger Baker....his drumming on Levitation is among his best..........jeeze! albert bouchard wrote: > >In a message dated 05/08/2001 3:07:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > > > > > >> These are the world's 10 best drummers, > > > >Well, if by "best" you mean most proficient, you're clearly missing some of > >the best drummers such as Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, and Billy Cobham... > > How about > Carter Beauford > Dennis Chambers > Joe Morrello > Lars Ulrich? > > As far as dead guys there's > Chick Webb > Gene Krupa > Baby Dodds (the inventor of the drum kit) > Mel Taylor and Howie Johnson (Ventures) > Tony Williams > Jeff Porcaro > > OK, OK, I'll stop now. From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Wed May 9 10:17:37 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:17:37 -0400 Subject: HW:Text of Festival Message-ID: Listen to this last night on vinyl and I forgot how good the first of the two LP's is. Where are all these recordings from, BBC/Top Gear stuff, and what year as the record just says 70-73? The Master of the Universe is one of the best I've ever heard and I think better quality on vinyl than a version I have on CD somewhere, Anthology maybe? Also the guitaring on Shouldn't do that and Hurry on is great, sounds very Huwey. Can anyone clear this up? Thanks, Eddie. From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Wed May 9 10:32:34 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:32:34 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <002101c0d7fa$3c957ec0$3251193e@gypo> Message-ID: Agreed, Simon was my favourite too. I am sure Ginger was a better drummer technically, but not for Hawkwind. What about people's favourite concerts Top 3 or 5. In my limited experience mine would be (in no particular order) London Lyceum 13.7.80 Classic '79 line up London Rainbow 18.12.81 Great party atmosphere plus Bob and Nik London Brixton 22.10.00 One off Hawkestra Stonehenge 21.6.84 Last time for the event proper Elec Ballroom 28.12.79 My first concert I'd be interested in anyone's favourites and reasons why for concerts in the early and mid 70's. Did anyone see them in 1971 or earlier, would love to hear the details as I was definately born 10 years too late. Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: colm mcwilliams [mailto:bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK] Sent: 08 May 2001 16:06 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Drummers simon king in my honest opinion is the best hawkwind drummer there ever was! colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 8:30 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Drummers > Billy Cobham should be in there somewhere. And I'd swap Cozy Powell with Al. > > Also for consideration: > Ginger Baker > (I really like his drumming on Levitation, BTW.) > > Ian Paice > (Example: the intro to Fireball. And his fill before the 2nd verse of > Strange Kind of Woman still gives me chills.) > > > These are the world's 10 best drummers, ordered alphabetically. Right? > > > > John Bonham, RIP > > Richard Chadwick > > Stewart Copeland > > Sami Kuoppamaki > > Jaki Liebezeit > > Chris Maitland > > Mani Neumeier > > Cozy Powell, RIP > > Scott Rockenfield > > Christian Vander > > > > Honorable mention [...] > > Adrian Belew* > > The second best "V-Drummer" and guitarist in King Crimson. ;-) Seriously > though, I agree he's a great guitarist and songwriter. > > Brian > > -- > Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower > MP3 Radio > Updated Semi-Occasionally > http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Wed May 9 06:36:19 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:36:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: Well.............I always had a soft spot for Ringo Starr!!!! Not the most talented drummer.............but he definitely makes you listen!!!! (back off boogaloo was just great!) Layla >>> bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM 05/08/01 09:48pm >>> Neil Peart Pierre Moerlen (For God's sake!!!!) Simon King Bill Bruford (as long as he keeps away from that bleedin' Jazz-rock stuff) Kenneth ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed May 9 07:44:51 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:44:51 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <000301c0d894$e323fd80$cfc92cc3@thrupoint.net> Message-ID: In article <000301c0d894$e323fd80$cfc92cc3 at thrupoint.net>, ejobson writes >London Lyceum 13.7.80 Classic '79 line up >London Brixton 22.10.00 One off Hawkestra >Stonehenge 21.6.84 Last time for the event proper yup, these would be my best three, as well! I scored a poster for the Lyceum gig off ebay last year. It's in my office at work now. Excellent show! ICU were 'king amazing too, that night! -- Jon From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Wed May 9 12:54:16 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:54:16 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Great minds think alike then! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Jon Browne Sent: 09 May 2001 07:45 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Drummers In article <000301c0d894$e323fd80$cfc92cc3 at thrupoint.net>, ejobson writes >London Lyceum 13.7.80 Classic '79 line up >London Brixton 22.10.00 One off Hawkestra >Stonehenge 21.6.84 Last time for the event proper yup, these would be my best three, as well! I scored a poster for the Lyceum gig off ebay last year. It's in my office at work now. Excellent show! ICU were 'king amazing too, that night! -- Jon From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed May 9 08:06:45 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 07:06:45 -0500 Subject: BEDOUIN-TRES HOMBRES Message-ID: Any one who has the BEDOUIN cdr-Tres Hombres,may be interested to know that the location for this gig is 'BOURDEUR ZOETEMEER' 9/3/98. The cdr doesnt specify. STEPHE From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed May 9 08:15:27 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:15:27 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <3AF8B10C.4F0CC1EE@petronet.net> Message-ID: Tom Clark wrote: > And no-one mentioned Ginger Baker....his drumming on Levitation is among his > best..........jeeze! Uh...I did. And mentioned that I really liked his work on Levitation. I'm with ya, man. Like Simon King on Space Ritual and Richard Chadwick on Electric Teepee, Ginger was just right for Levitation. Though I know many others probably would disagree about that. What other album besides Live Chronicles makes it on so many "best of HW" and "worst of HW" lists? Back to OFF, I was listening to Electric by The Cult the other day and it occurred to me that what really makes that album great is the drumming. Clean, basic, driving... Too bad the band treated him like crap and he was given the boot after that one album. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed May 9 08:23:07 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:23:07 EDT Subject: Joe B In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9 May 2001, at 8:15, Brian Halligan wrote: [snip] Brian, 19 May there's some kind of festival in Rochester with Joe Bonamassa playing. I'll be out of the country at the time, so enjoy it for me... BTW, the Syracuse R&B fest in July features Joe B and Little Feat. Hope you can make it... theo From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Wed May 9 09:25:27 2001 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:25:27 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <200105082215.SAA01678@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 May 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > On Tue, 8 May 2001 16:11:57 EDT, Steven Tice wrote: > >> These are the world's 10 best drummers, > > > >Well, if by "best" you mean most proficient, you're clearly missing some of > >the best drummers such as Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, and Billy Cobham... > > Proficiency, schmoficienty. I'll take Ringo, Nick Knox, Mo Tucker, Charlie > Watts, or anyone who played in Black Flag over any of the "most proficient". Let me put in a word for Tim O' Reagan of the Jayhawks ... minimal flash and I don't think he's ever played a solo but a rock solid drummer. Rob THV Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From nick at NETPHD.NET Wed May 9 09:54:48 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:54:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <000801c0d8a8$afb0f890$cfc92cc3@thrupoint.net> Message-ID: Given the close Motorhead connection, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Philthy Animal Taylor or Mikkey Dee. Okay, maybe they're not exactly "Best List" material, but many is the time their playing has caused me to forego my better judgement and crank the knob WAY past 11. I almost blew a speaker in my car once during Mikkey's drum break in "Assassin". That fits well within my definition of great drumming. --Nick From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed May 9 10:24:15 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:24:15 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Brian Halligan writes >Back to OFF, I was listening to Electric by The Cult the other day and it >occurred to me that what really makes that album great is the drumming. >Clean, basic, driving... Too bad the band treated him like crap and he was >given the boot after that one album. did you know Les Warner played with Here and Now live for a while too, but never recorded with them. I was in a band with him too, for about a week. -- Jon From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed May 9 10:42:18 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 14:42:18 GMT Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: All good so far. I'd add Jim McCarty of the Yardbirds (esp. the Roger the Engineer LP/CD) (Thank god for Repertoire Records giving all their albums a GOOD re-releasing). The drummer from Mike Watt and his Pair of Pliers band. He's TIGHT w/ the rhythms. Jaime Muir from Larks Tongues' Crim BIlly Cobham (Mahavishnu Orch.) For his blues work w/Peter Green ONLY, the drummer from Fleetwood Mac (I can never remember which is which). And the E.Costello and the Attractions Drummer (man, my memory's shot!) Jason --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed May 9 11:02:39 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:02:39 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <80TPlEAPMV+6Ew0g@comics.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Jon writes: > did you know Les Warner played with Here and Now live for a while too, > but never recorded with them. No, I didn't. That's interesting! And Billy Duffy played with Morrissey in a band pre The Smiths. It's an odd world.... > I was in a band with him too, for about a week. Cool. What band was this? Wasn't there someone on BOC-L who had played with, or replaced, Blackie O (known best as Urge Overkill's drummer) briefly in another band? Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 9 11:09:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 00:39:01 +0930 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: I used to really dig that drummer on the muppets whats is name - animal? Mb :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 8:06 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Drummers > Well.............I always had a soft spot for Ringo Starr!!!! Not the most talented drummer.............but he definitely makes you listen!!!! > > (back off boogaloo was just great!) > > > Layla > > > >>> bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM 05/08/01 09:48pm >>> > Neil Peart > Pierre Moerlen (For God's sake!!!!) > Simon King > Bill Bruford (as long as he keeps away from that bleedin' Jazz-rock stuff) > > > Kenneth > ------- > Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ > The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Wed May 9 08:14:39 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:14:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: I have this fascination................. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Tom Clark [mailto:tclark at PETRONET.NET] Sent: 09 May 2001 03:53 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Drummers And no-one mentioned Ginger Baker....his drumming on Levitation is among his best..........jeeze! albert bouchard wrote: > >In a message dated 05/08/2001 3:07:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > > > > > >> These are the world's 10 best drummers, > > > >Well, if by "best" you mean most proficient, you're clearly missing some of > >the best drummers such as Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, and Billy Cobham... > > How about > Carter Beauford > Dennis Chambers > Joe Morrello > Lars Ulrich? > > As far as dead guys there's > Chick Webb > Gene Krupa > Baby Dodds (the inventor of the drum kit) > Mel Taylor and Howie Johnson (Ventures) > Tony Williams > Jeff Porcaro > > OK, OK, I'll stop now. *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed May 9 12:16:11 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:16:11 EDT Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: In a message dated 5/9/01 10:55:00 AM, js3619 at ACMENET.NET writes: << the drummer from Fleetwood Mac (I can never remember which is which). >> ====== there's only been one drummer in that band: Mick Fleetwood. "<>" MP3.com - Das Ludicroix From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed May 9 12:34:29 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 17:34:29 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: It has to be said I saw Pierre Moerlen in Paris with Gong a couple of years back, and he was exceptional both as a drummer and performer, which is the opposite to what I thought he would be. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Magnusson" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 9:48 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Drummers > Neil Peart > Pierre Moerlen (For God's sake!!!!) > Simon King > Bill Bruford (as long as he keeps away from that bleedin' Jazz-rock stuff) > > > Kenneth > ------- > Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ > The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor > From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Wed May 9 12:31:22 2001 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:31:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <51.b4f5608.282ac74b@aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 May 2001 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 5/9/01 10:55:00 AM, js3619 at ACMENET.NET writes: > > << the drummer from Fleetwood Mac (I can > never remember which is which). >> > ====== > there's only been one drummer in that band: > Mick Fleetwood. I think they meant they couldn't remember which of Fleetwood and Mac (John McVie) was the drummer and which was the bassist. Rob THV Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed May 9 13:03:25 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:03:25 -0700 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: And here's another one for the dead list - Phil Collins. He's not dead, unfortunately, but his drumming skiils certainly are..... From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed May 9 13:11:53 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 01:11:53 +0800 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: Some of his drumming work on early Genesis, before he thought of himself as a superstar, was quite good, though nowadays, like most rich superstars, he's too rich & lazy to play. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "John H. McCartney" To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 1:03 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Drummers > And here's another one for the dead list - Phil Collins. > > > He's not dead, unfortunately, but his drumming skiils certainly are..... > From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed May 9 13:19:45 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:19:45 -0700 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: > > Some of his drumming work on early Genesis, before he thought of himself as > a superstar, was quite good, though nowadays, like most rich superstars, > he's too rich & lazy to play. > > > > And here's another one for the dead list - Phil Collins. > > > > > > He's not dead, unfortunately, but his drumming skiils certainly are..... > > Yeah, he's actually admitted that he can no longer play the drum parts from a lot of the early stuff, sad. I heard that he had given up and rejoined Genesis, but I've not seen anything 'official', anyone know? That album without him was even more dire than usual..... From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed May 9 13:30:01 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 01:30:01 +0800 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: > > > > Some of his drumming work on early Genesis, before he thought of himself as > > a superstar, was quite good, though nowadays, like most rich superstars, > > he's too rich & lazy to play. > > > > > > > And here's another one for the dead list - Phil Collins. > > > > > > > > > He's not dead, unfortunately, but his drumming skiils certainly are..... > > > > > > Yeah, he's actually admitted that he can no longer play the drum parts > from a lot of the early stuff, sad. > > I heard that he had given up and rejoined Genesis, but I've not seen > anything 'official', anyone know? That album without him was even more > dire than usual..... > Don't know if I'd agree with that, as I thought it was an improvement on the commercial crap they had been churning out a lot up till then. Genesis had for a long time become Phil Collins's backing band. William From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed May 9 13:32:45 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:32:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <008701c0d8ab$2569ecc0$92cf3bcb@xl5jji166w6xlq> Message-ID: In message <008701c0d8ab$2569ecc0$92cf3bcb at xl5jji166w6xlq>, William Duffy writes >Some of his drumming work on early Genesis, before he thought of himself as >a superstar, was quite good, Have to agree: the drumming on Genesis Live (from '73) is brilliant IMHO. Of course, this doesn't excuse his subsequent crimes against music. I was really into Genesis at one time- they were the first band I ever really listened to, aged 13 or thereabouts. It was a painful business watching the way they went. I think for me the end came when I saw Phil Collins doing "You Can't Hurry Love" on the 2 Ronnies (cosy comedy show that used to be on BBC, for the benefit of non-UK readers who may have missed out on this cultural triumph), sometime in mid-80s I suppose.... then when Invisible Touch came out, I knew the game was REALLY up. The pain wasn't helped by the fact that it was my dearest wish to see Genesis live, but by the time I they finally came to London for the first time in years, it was after the "terminally-crap event horizon" and I couldn't bring myself to go. Bastards. Why wasn't there more of Peter Gabriel's interview on that Top 10 programme I wonder? I mean, who gives a toss what the others have to say for themselves? On a related note, I was surprised how much footage of the early days was on the prog, and I see on Amazon that there will soon be a DVD release titled Genesis- the Complete Story. Anyone know anything about this? I would love to see more of Gabriel performing with the band. -- Nick Medford From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Wed May 9 14:00:52 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:00:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: how about the roland 808 drum machine??? duck!!! colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bolts of Ungodly Vision" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 3:42 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Drummers > All good so far. > I'd add Jim McCarty of the Yardbirds (esp. the Roger the Engineer LP/CD) (Thank > god for Repertoire Records giving all their albums a GOOD re-releasing). > The drummer from Mike Watt and his Pair of Pliers band. He's TIGHT w/ the > rhythms. > Jaime Muir from Larks Tongues' Crim > BIlly Cobham (Mahavishnu Orch.) > For his blues work w/Peter Green ONLY, the drummer from Fleetwood Mac (I can > never remember which is which). > And the E.Costello and the Attractions Drummer (man, my memory's shot!) > > Jason > > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. > http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ > From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Wed May 9 14:14:26 2001 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 14:14:26 EDT Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: Drummers. The top ten, in no particular order. Would put myself but that would just be a plain lie Ian Paice Neil Peart Sly Dunbar ( Sly & Robbie) Stewart Copeland Keith Moon John Bonham Shamal ( Gong) Butch ( the Eels) Carlton Barrett ( the wailers) Clive Deemer ( roni Size) regards iain From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Wed May 9 14:30:06 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 20:30:06 +0200 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <75.14728fac.282ae302@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi, >Shamal ( Gong) Who do you mean? The drummer on the album "Shamal"? That would be Pierre Moerlen. Or Shyamal Maitra, their percussionist? BTW here are my top 5 (in no particular order): Christian Vander Pierre Moerlen Stewart Copeland Ginger Baker Bill Bruford No.1 in my flop-5 would definitively be Nick Mason. (c)IAO D+R np: Gong, "Shapeshifter" From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Wed May 9 14:41:46 2001 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 14:41:46 EDT Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: IHi denis its Shyamal Maitra, I've seen him a few times live and is absolutely awesome. I saw him with Gong twice playing a drum kit and tabla's, etc he totally blew me away.... Since seeing him I started studying Tabla. Still learning Regards iain From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 9 14:40:47 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:40:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: I just wish someone would re-record Xenon Codex without the drum machine (at least I'm sure it can't be Danny Thompson sounding that mechanical!) jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed May 9 14:50:53 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:50:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010509202246.02ed7480@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: In message <5.0.2.1.0.20010509202246.02ed7480 at kommsrv.rz.unibw- muenchen.de>, Denis Regenbrecht writes > Shyamal Maitra, ... helluva tabla player! (top 10 tabla players anyone?) > >BTW here are my top 5 (in no particular order): > >Christian Vander >Pierre Moerlen Pierre is great of course, but so is Pip Pyle- difficult to choose between those two as the No.1 Gong engine-room. >Stewart Copeland >Ginger Baker >Bill Bruford I have to agree with those who cite Ginger Baker- whatever his failings as a human being, the drumming on "Levitation" and- especially- "Do Not Panic" is amazing. If you haven't listened to the latter for a while, dig it out and prepare to be seriously impressed. > >No.1 in my flop-5 would definitively be Nick Mason. Bit harsh? Was quite inventive in the early days of the Floyd. Not even remotely inventive now, true, but that presumably has to do with the superstar syndrome (cf Phil Collins). -- Nick Medford From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed May 9 15:01:06 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:01:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: On Wed, 9 May 2001 14:42:18 GMT, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: >All good so far. >I'd add Jim McCarty of the Yardbirds (esp. the Roger the Engineer LP/CD) Yes (although not on 'Little Games' since that was all Page + session men). >The drummer from Mike Watt and his Pair of Pliers band. He's TIGHT w/ the >rhythms. At least on tour, that was Bob Lee (also of Clawhammer, Backbiter, the Amadans, Slotnick, Twink's L.A. "Pink Fairies" & many more), who made my list yesterday. Hey Chuck or Dan - did you see him the other week backing up Twink at the show w/Farflung? I'd love to hear a report ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed May 9 15:09:00 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:09:00 -0700 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: > I have to agree with those who cite Ginger Baker- whatever his failings as a > human being, the drumming on "Levitation" and- especially- "Do Not Panic" is > amazing. If you haven't listened to the latter for a while, dig it out > and prepare to be seriously impressed. Good stuff, however I'll contend that his very best work is on Ginger Baker's Air Force, an album that completely blew me away the first time I heard it, some 24 years ago..... On the other hand, I have 1 solo Baker album, that I can't even remember the name of, recorded in his studio in Africa, that is utter and complete shite. For those who will be able to identify it, there are some drawings on the back with some wording about scoring smack being easier than bumming a cigarette, which speaks volumes..... scorch From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed May 9 15:27:41 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:27:41 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <200105091909.MAA26944@bob.te-cats.com> Message-ID: Speaking of drummers of yore, Reg isidore on the first 2 Robin Trower albums does a neat funk/blues amalgam. And, K. Moon's rocktastic powers are well displayed on the remasted soundtrack to The Kids Are Alright -- the rocknrollcircus version of A Quick One, and the live My Wife (Entwhistles bass flattens ears too) are STOMPINGLY ROCKTASTIC (hows that 4 verbiage?) Caravan's drummer is very good too. Superfuntastic bonus points to Ray Mondo of Sex Gang Children and Death Cult From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed May 9 15:19:04 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:19:04 EDT Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010509152741.0069dba8@acmenet.net> Message-ID: On 9 May 2001, at 15:27, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > Speaking of drummers of yore, Reg isidore on the first 2 Robin Trower > albums does a neat funk/blues amalgam. > Funny you should say so, as most Trower fans [myself included] prefer Bill Lordan's work with the group. Obviously, RT did! theo From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Wed May 9 15:24:30 2001 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:24:30 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010509152741.0069dba8@acmenet.net> Message-ID: I've got to put in a plug for guy Evans from Van Der Graaf Generator. Rob THV Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Wed May 9 15:18:09 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:18:09 +0200 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <9f.150beeaa.282ae96a@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Ian, >its Shyamal Maitra, I've seen him a few times live and is absolutely awesome. >I saw him with Gong twice playing a drum kit and tabla's, etc he totally blew >me away.... Yeah, he's great! Does anyone know where he plays nowadays? >Since seeing him I started studying Tabla. Still learning Yup, great instrument. It's a lot more difficult than it looks. But that's the case with all ethnic percussions IMO. I bought a small drum (a Doumbek IIRC) during holidays in Tunisia, but I never reached a high enough skill-level. (c)IAO D+R From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed May 9 15:24:24 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 20:24:24 +0100 Subject: OFF: Girlschool, London Message-ID: Questions: - Where is the Borderline? - How much? - What time? - What's the current line-up? --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 7:20 PM Subject: OFF: Girlschool, London > Anyone else up for Girlschool at the Borderline this Thursday? Me and Carl > are going. Should be an excuse to get lagered up if nothing else... ;) > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Wed May 9 15:31:49 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:31:49 +0200 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, >Pierre is great of course, but so is Pip Pyle- difficult to choose between >those >two as the No.1 Gong engine-room. Perhaps we should simply say "Gong drummers", all of them are very good, it's easier and saves a lot of space. ;-) Their new one, Chris Taylor, is fabulous, too. >I have to agree with those who cite Ginger Baker- whatever his failings as a >human being, the drumming on "Levitation" and- especially- "Do Not >Panic" is amazing. If you haven't listened to the latter for a while, dig >it out >and prepare to be seriously impressed. Yup. I especially like his very rhythmic use of cymbals and hi-hat. That adds a lot to the overall sound. > >No.1 in my flop-5 would definitively be Nick Mason. > >Bit harsh? Just a little... But I don't count all those wannabe punk and metal drummers, who are only able to play a 4/4-beat with as few variations as possible. ;-) >Was quite inventive in the early days of the Floyd. Not even >remotely inventive now, true, but that presumably has to do with the >superstar syndrome (cf Phil Collins). I beg to differ. He wasn't really inventive, even in the earlier days IMHO. He was more playful and he showed more skill than, for example, on "The Division Bell". But compared to other drummers of the same genre he's still lame. I think you can count his basic patterns and fills with one hand. (c)IAO D'wondering how HW with Christian Vander guesting would sound'...+R From starfield at SUPANET.COM Wed May 9 15:41:39 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 20:41:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: Favourite 4 Drummers? >From a huge collection of music I've heard over the years.... Simon King (not technically perfect, but amazing speed and power) Phil Collins (1972 - 1976 anyway - his timing on the first Genesis Archive box set is incredible) Carl Palmer (Check out Atomic Rooster for pre-superstar playing) John Bonham (For Physical Graffitti and Presence - what more can you say?) From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed May 9 16:04:15 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:04:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: Girlschool, London In-Reply-To: <00c601c0d8bd$a8fc4ee0$176aa8c0@alien8.co.uk> Message-ID: Manette Street, off Charing Cross Road, near the Astoria ?6.50 7.30 doors I think Kim, Denise, Enid and new girl Jackie Williamson. http://www.girlschool.co.uk -- Andy www.andygilham.com From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed May 9 16:32:59 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:32:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Girlschool, London Message-ID: Cheers (you lot, I suppose, would be the right thing to say). --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:04 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Girlschool, London > Manette Street, off Charing Cross Road, near the Astoria > ?6.50 > 7.30 doors I think > Kim, Denise, Enid and new girl Jackie Williamson. > > http://www.girlschool.co.uk > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 9 18:09:34 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 23:09:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Radio 1 Message-ID: Were Hawkwind featured on the radio today? Dave From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 9 17:26:39 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 22:26:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind - Rock and Blues Show at Donnington Message-ID: Just in case anyone else has been trying the link on the Hawkwind web page to get info about this and keeps getting the message "this page cannot be found". If you take out all the preceding address and simply leave www.rockandblues.uk.com this will give you access to the appropriate page. Quite an impressive lineup there is too! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 9 18:22:00 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 23:22:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind - Rock and Blues Show at Donnington Message-ID: Michael Schenker and Phil Mogg on the same stage? After the recent fiasco? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jill Strobridge To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 09 May 2001 22:30 Subject: HW: Hawkwind - Rock and Blues Show at Donnington >Just in case anyone else has been trying the link on the Hawkwind >web page to get info about this and keeps getting the message "this >page cannot be found". If you take out all the preceding address >and simply leave www.rockandblues.uk.com this will give you access >to the appropriate page. Quite an impressive lineup there is too! > >jill >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Jill Strobridge >----------------------------------------------------------------- > From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Wed May 9 17:36:19 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 23:36:19 +0200 Subject: BEDOUIN-TRES HOMBRES In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A99F9C@hermes.marketday. com> Message-ID: At 07:06 9-5-01 -0500, you wrote: >Any one who has the BEDOUIN cdr-Tres Hombres,may be interested to know that >the location for this gig is 'BOURDEUR ZOETEMEER' 9/3/98. The cdr doesnt >specify. STEPHE and properly written it's: de Boerderij in Zoetermeer, which menas the farm in zoetermeer. i was there ;) andre From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed May 9 17:42:34 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 17:42:34 -0400 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: Just a reminder to those who haven't explored Hawkspace too far..... 90% of HW Lyrics are available on Mission Control Enter through the CATALOGUE section....... www.hawkwind.org.uk ++ From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 9 17:53:22 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 22:53:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind - Rock and Blues Show at Donnington Message-ID: Why? What happened? jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:22 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind - Rock and Blues Show at Donnington > Michael Schenker and Phil Mogg on the same stage? After the recent fiasco? > Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Jill Strobridge > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 09 May 2001 22:30 > Subject: HW: Hawkwind - Rock and Blues Show at Donnington > > > >Just in case anyone else has been trying the link on the Hawkwind > >web page to get info about this and keeps getting the message "this > >page cannot be found". If you take out all the preceding address > >and simply leave www.rockandblues.uk.com this will give you access > >to the appropriate page. Quite an impressive lineup there is too! > > > >jill > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >Jill Strobridge > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed May 9 18:04:50 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:04:50 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind - Rock and Blues Show at Donnington Message-ID: The MC link has now been fixed !! thanx 4 pointing this out ! Rx >Just in case anyone else has been trying the link on the Hawkwind >web page to get info about this and keeps getting the message "this >page cannot be found"............... From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed May 9 18:11:55 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:11:55 -0700 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: Ok, here's a couple on the plus side - Ian Mosely (Marillion) Alan White (Yes) Manu Katche (Peter Gabriel, others) Jerry Marotta (Gabriel, etc) John Weathers (Gentle Giant) Alan Myers (Devo) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed May 9 18:19:53 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:19:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: On Wed, 9 May 2001 15:11:55 -0700, John H. McCartney wrote: >Ok, here's a couple on the plus side - > > [snip] > >Alan Myers (Devo) I'll definitely second this selection! Playing in a Devo tribute band (even though I wasn't the drummer) made me really appreciate his work, from having to listen intently to the original songs, and seeing how hard our drummer (who was very very good) worked to keep up with the original parts. (Plus - this is entirely hearsay - I've heard that Devo were inspired to make the transition from "art project" to "real band" after meeting Hawkwind - who they were definitely fans of - on one of their American tours [circa 74/75].) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed May 9 18:24:10 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:24:10 EDT Subject: OFF: Son of (Farf) Lung Message-ID: OK, thanks to Jerry Kranitz I finally got a dub of the Myth of Solid Ground disc, and I think I'ved sussed out the track-list for the new "Farflung w/Nik at Strange Daze '99" disc. 1.Alius Orbis 2.When I Awoke to Sleep No More 3.??/The Larval Stage (maybe the "??" is just an intro rather than another tune) 4.The Day of St. Anthony's Fire 5.Breach of I w/Nik: 6.Sonic Attack 7.Brainstorm 8.Watching the Grass Grow 9.Opa-Loka 2000 10.You Shouldn't Do That Comments: "Fargin great" album! Questions: Does anyone have anything to add to the above hypothesis? Recommendations: Buy it while it's still available! Chuck PS: I give up on The Raven that Ate the Moon... PSS: Falcata-Galia (releasing the forth-coming FF album is in Rialto, California; SoCal's "Inland Empire" is in no way less flaky than the rest of the state, but I have a feeling that Rudy may get it right this time... From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed May 9 18:42:28 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:42:28 EDT Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: In a message dated 5/9/01 12:06:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > At least on tour, that was Bob Lee (also of Clawhammer, Backbiter, the > Amadans, Slotnick, Twink's L.A. "Pink Fairies" & many more), who made my > list yesterday. Hey Chuck or Dan - did you see him the other week backing > up Twink at the show w/Farflung? I'd love to hear a report ... Bob Lee was supposed to be the drummer? Because my friend told me the drummer was Brandon LaBelle! He was a kinda heavy dude w/a glittery shirt. He shredded the skins, too. Uh...anyway, about the show: Farflung were a blast except 1. No keyboards and 2. Only a 40-minute set, thanks I guess to the opening groups (or the venue--Spaceland, L.A. flake-club if I ever saw one Since Twink came on right after FF and was the night's last act, of course FF had no choice but to get off the stage by the previously-scheduled deadline. Twink and LA Pink Faries: All I can say is--heavy high-octane punk 'n' roll from an old guy who was _undoubtably_ one of the forefathers (and a great backing band to boot)... Chuck PS: It wasn't exactly Glastonbury '71, but it was hot. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 9 14:21:17 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:21:17 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: the one and only - and arguably the finest - Christian Vander of Magma Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alissa" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 9:22 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Drummers > Richard Chadwick > Simon King > Thomen Stauch > Hellhammer > Horgh From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 9 14:25:19 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:25:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: King Tool? Message-ID: sorry - I'm talking the Salival CD and DVd or CD and video depending on your choice - I know it's only a few weeks since I reviewed it and I have done hundreds since then, but I could have sworn it was a live album or had live tracks on it - whatever, it's one PHENOMENAL album. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bart" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 1:53 PM Subject: Re: OFF: King Tool? > > after the last Tool live album that walked all over the miserable carcass > > that was the Crimso live album, I'd be there just to see Tool!!! > > Andy Garibaldi > > what Tool live album are you on about ??? AFAIK there's no such thing ever > released. > > > Tim From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 9 14:33:11 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:33:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: oh - and Jaki Liebezeit, Mani Neumeier and Jon Hiseman. Andy G (last word on the subject from me) ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 8:14 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Drummers > >In a message dated 05/08/2001 3:07:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > > > >> These are the world's 10 best drummers, > > > >Well, if by "best" you mean most proficient, you're clearly missing some of > >the best drummers such as Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, and Billy Cobham... > > Hell, no, not the most proficient. I put Cozy Powell on there for > chrissakes! :) > > I meant 'best' in a very tongue-in-cheek "Like I'm the one to say, and > you're not" kinda way. :) > > Grakkl (FAA) > > P.S. Neil Peart and Simon Phillips didn't make my list (and these three you > mention also), so lots of flair and technical ability not required. And > also that Bozzio guy (I saw him with Jeff Beck years ago, and thought he was > indeed excellent, but I don't know any of 'his' work...only his wife's, sad > to say.) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 9 14:34:24 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:34:24 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine Live: Paging Andy G Message-ID: got your e.mail at work - will sort out track list and get back to you within a day or two, OK. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Silver Machine Live: Paging Andy G > Colin Allen writes: > > > > > > I saw that on your latest list. What is it? > > > It is another Demi Monde(?) release of rehashed tracks. > > Well yes, but for us Keepers of the Codex, it's important to know which > tracks have been rehashed. That way everyone else will get to know and > be able to choose to avoid buying them. > > FoFP > > P.S: Talking to a drinking buddy yesterday. He said he'd been out and > bought a Hawkwind live CD and had taken it back to the shop because the > sound was so awful. Our friend Yuri again I suspect. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 9 19:33:23 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 00:33:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Radio 1 Message-ID: oh yes - a magic mpment at 2.50 pm on Mark and Kard's show right after the fantastic feature they have caleld 'Shed of Dread' where Lard gets locked up (in a real shed that they have in their Manchester studio altho' they were in London today) in the shed and has to experience this 'unknown fear' inside the shed for the duration of some crap pop track so that all you hear is Mark screaming and yelling and banging on the shed to be let out while the track is on. They always follow it up with some classic track - few days ago we had Led Zep and today it was 'Silver Machine' - just superb to hear this on daytime radio one, and on the best show on the whole network too. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "david hall" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:09 PM Subject: HW: Radio 1 Were Hawkwind featured on the radio today? Dave From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed May 9 19:16:01 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:16:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farflung yet again (was: Drummers) Message-ID: On Wed, 9 May 2001 18:42:28 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >In a message dated 5/9/01 12:06:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > >> At least on tour, that was Bob Lee (also of Clawhammer, Backbiter, the >> Amadans, Slotnick, Twink's L.A. "Pink Fairies" & many more), who made my >> list yesterday. Hey Chuck or Dan - did you see him the other week >> backing up Twink at the show w/Farflung? I'd love to hear a report ... > >Bob Lee was supposed to be the drummer? Because my friend told me the >drummer was Brandon LaBelle! Oops ... sorry if I wasn't being clear. Bob was the drummer in Twink's backing band (which IS Bob's band, Backbiter). Yes, I would assume that Brandon drummed for Farflung. >He was a kinda heavy dude w/a glittery shirt. He >shredded the skins, too. >Uh...anyway, about the show: Farflung were a blast except >No keyboards ... I saw them do this one time when they played in Oakland. I think me & Scott Telles of ST37 (it was the week they were in town) were the only people there to see them, so Tommy just played guitar. It was pretty cool ... more MC5 than Hawkwind ... but yeah, a little weird. >Twink and LA Pink Faries: All I can say is--heavy high-octane punk 'n' roll >from an old guy who was _undoubtably_ one of the forefathers (and a great >backing band to boot)... Cool, that's what I would've expected (and, like I keep saying, great drummer!). >PS: It wasn't exactly Glastonbury '71 I wouldn't have expected THAT! (but I certainly would've been ecstaticly surprised...) Thanks for the report, -Doug ceres at sirius.com From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed May 9 19:18:36 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 07:18:36 +0800 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: How about Ron Bushy (I think that's his name) of Iron Butterfly. Inn-a-gadda-da-vida still rocks. Bill From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 9 19:44:08 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 00:44:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: only one - Zakir Hussain!!(hope I've got that one right)Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Drummers > In message <5.0.2.1.0.20010509202246.02ed7480 at kommsrv.rz.unibw- > muenchen.de>, Denis Regenbrecht MUENCHEN.DE> writes > > Shyamal Maitra, > > ... helluva tabla player! (top 10 tabla players anyone?) > > > From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed May 9 23:02:58 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 22:02:58 -0500 Subject: OFF: Drummers - Number One? Message-ID: And the quintessiential drummer of all time - I vote for Mickey Hart He bleeds drums! From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu May 10 05:13:39 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:13:39 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Brian Halligan writes >What band was this? just a rehearsal studio jam outfit (maaaaan!) with Raven from Killing Joke, Les, me singing and some guy I'd never met before or since on guitar. I hasten to add I lasted only two sessions, not being quite up to the standard of either The Wolfchild or The Jazz Coalman. >Wasn't there someone on BOC-L who had played with, >or replaced, Blackie O (known best as Urge Overkill's drummer) briefly in >another band? My brother Cass, filled in for Blackie when the Urge came over without him when Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon was in the charts. He did a couple of shows in London and Paris, and their Top Of The Pops appearance. Blackie came over later after his Uncle's funeral. Talking of which, has anyone heard Nash Kato's new solo album? oh yeah. favourite drummer - Cass Browne but only when he was in Senseless Things. Delakota stuff a bit too sampledelia drums-wise. Honourable mention to Rat Scabies. Keith Moon still rules for me! -- Jon Browne From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Thu May 10 05:15:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:15:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Drummers Message-ID: OK, OK, I can't resist any longer 8-) You all know Simon King (http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind) is one of my heroes, so no. 1 on the list won't be a surprise 8-)) In order: 1) Simon King (organic feel, power, stamina, etc. etc.) 2) Keith Moon (feel and fun and entertainment and activity) 3) Ricky Slaughter (from the original Motors lineup, real name Richard Wernham) 4) Mike Shrieve (original Santana drummer, e.g. at Woodstock) Richard's pretty good too, of course, but I wish he'd let himself go a bit more - his playing's just *too* tight 8-))) Steve From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 10 05:14:00 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 18:44:00 +0930 Subject: VAGINA Message-ID: I was just wondering if the band known as VAGINA would be interested in gettin together with my band named PENIS for a one nighter or maybe even a regular thing...... bad taste mode disabled From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu May 10 08:50:27 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:50:27 -0400 Subject: OFF: Nash Kato's solo album In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > Talking of which, has > anyone heard Nash Kato's new solo album? I saw some lukewarm to decent reviews for it so I grabbed the single, Zooey Suicide, from Napster. It has an Urge feel to it (over-the-top glam). IIRC there were some female backup singers too. It wasn't anything special, so I trashed it after a few listens. One song I'd like to hear by UO (maybe even their last recording ever) is the rendition of the U.S. National Anthem they played in the movie Kingpin. I was watching the DVD the other day, and during the director commentary he said UO's version was very unique and the best he's ever heard. Unfortunately, only about 10sec of the song made it into the final cut. :-( Brian obUOSong> (Now That's) The Barclords -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu May 10 08:51:44 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:51:44 GMT Subject: OFF: RE: ******* and LIST ETIQUETTE Message-ID: Michael, IN the future, present, and all other temporal realities, PLEASE refrain from sending a COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC post to the entirety of the list by using the OFF: subject designation. Thank you for your cooperation. --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Thu May 10 09:18:17 2001 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:18:17 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <026301c0d8e1$f196b180$ab9cbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Thu, 10 May 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > only one - Zakir Hussain!!(hope I've got that one right)Andy G. Close enough :) Of course, he was a student of the late great Allah Rakha (and I'm fairly certain I've misspelled his name :) ) Rob THV Who was the tabla player for Shakti again? Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Thu May 10 10:59:01 2001 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 07:59:01 -0700 Subject: HW: Still searching for Weird #6 Message-ID: OK, I just received confirmation that Weirdos #1 & #5 are en route to me. So that just leaves #6. Does anyone know of anyplace that might have some of these remaining? If not, is it too early to start talking about (ahem) other methods of procurement? MWood NP: Starfield - _Return to Earth_ (Special Ltd Edition) ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu May 10 11:09:16 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:09:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Still searching for Weird #6 Message-ID: Marshall Wood wrote: > OK, I just received confirmation that Weirdos #1 & #5 are > en route to me. So that just leaves #6. Does anyone know > of anyplace that might have some of these remaining? If > not, is it too early to start talking about (ahem) other > methods of procurement? > > MWood > > NP: Starfield - _Return to Earth_ (Special Ltd Edition) Yeah, I'm still searching for that too. Funnily enough, exactly the same CD is playing here! Which track are you on?.... Keef -- Thing-Do-er Phone:0207 973 4000 Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 London W1D 3BP mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Thu May 10 10:56:57 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:56:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drummers - Number One? Message-ID: Tom. That's a great choice!!!!! Also, I vote for Joe Nanini, the drummer from Wall Of Voodoo. He must have had the weirdest looking drum kit on the planet. Pots and pans, hubcaps and other strange and obscure items. Great sound though. (Sadly, he passed away late last year) Dr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Tom Clark [SMTP:tclark at PETRONET.NET] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 8:03 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Drummers - Number One? And the quintessiential drummer of all time - I vote for Mickey Hart He bleeds drums! From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu May 10 11:15:27 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:15:27 -0500 Subject: HW: Still searching for Weird #6 Message-ID: Try JIM Collins at tentacles of erpland. He may still have copies,or know if he can get them. His email address is ccollins54 at aol.com. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Keith Barton [mailto:keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:09 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Still searching for Weird #6 Marshall Wood wrote: > OK, I just received confirmation that Weirdos #1 & #5 are > en route to me. So that just leaves #6. Does anyone know > of anyplace that might have some of these remaining? If > not, is it too early to start talking about (ahem) other > methods of procurement? > > MWood > > NP: Starfield - _Return to Earth_ (Special Ltd Edition) Yeah, I'm still searching for that too. Funnily enough, exactly the same CD is playing here! Which track are you on?.... Keef -- Thing-Do-er Phone:0207 973 4000 Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 London W1D 3BP mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Thu May 10 11:31:55 2001 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:31:55 -0700 Subject: HW: Still searching for Weird #6 Message-ID: It just finished! Much better sound than the original release, I thought. MWood NP: Weird #3 >Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:09:16 +0100 >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >From: Keith Barton >SUBJECTTo: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Marshall Wood wrote: > >> OK, I just received confirmation that Weirdos #1 & #5 are >> en route to me. So that just leaves #6. Does anyone know >> of anyplace that might have some of these remaining? If >> not, is it too early to start talking about (ahem) other >> methods of procurement? >> >> MWood >> >> NP: Starfield - _Return to Earth_ (Special Ltd Edition) > >Yeah, I'm still searching for that too. > >Funnily enough, exactly the same CD is playing here! Which track are you >on?.... > >Keef > >-- >Thing-Do-er Phone:0207 973 4000 >Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 >9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 >London W1D 3BP mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk > +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 10 13:30:38 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 03:00:38 +0930 Subject: OFF: RE: ******* and LIST ETIQUETTE Message-ID: Which message was that then? ----- Original Message ----- From: Bolts of Ungodly Vision To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:21 PM Subject: OFF: RE: ******* and LIST ETIQUETTE > Michael, > > IN the future, present, and all other temporal realities, PLEASE refrain from > sending a COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC post to the entirety of the list by using the > OFF: subject designation. > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. > http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 10 13:33:07 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 03:03:07 +0930 Subject: OFFers : RE: ******* and LIST ETIQUETTE Message-ID: and - who are you?? ----- Original Message ----- From: Bolts of Ungodly Vision To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:21 PM Subject: OFF: RE: ******* and LIST ETIQUETTE > Michael, > > IN the future, present, and all other temporal realities, PLEASE refrain from > sending a COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC post to the entirety of the list by using the > OFF: subject designation. > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. > http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Thu May 10 14:03:59 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:03:59 +0200 Subject: OFF:gas giant-WE Message-ID: Hej, Just to let all the NOrweigens on the list (Christian!), that I will be in Oslo on Saturday for the Gas Giant vs. WE- Riding the Red Horse to the last Stronghold of the Freaks record release party. It is at John Dee in Oslo. If you can make it, stop by and say hello. Due to some fuck ups with the artwork, it looks like we will not have these records for the party, which is a damn shame. I highly recommend you all think about getting this from CDS, as it is going to kick everyones ass who is into heavy-psychedlic space rock (without synths, ok I play a bit on one track). scott From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu May 10 14:18:12 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 19:18:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: MP3/CD Portable Message-ID: Oh Yeah. Just got my new portable CD player that'll play MP3s too. This is gonna be good 650 minutes of random Hawkwind here I come. LoL. Rich W From des at SUPERLINK.NET Thu May 10 14:10:00 2001 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:10:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: MP3/CD Portable Message-ID: I'm looking to get a CD/Mp3 player myself. Which one did you get? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warren" To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:18 PM Subject: OFF: MP3/CD Portable > Oh Yeah. > > Just got my new portable CD player that'll play MP3s too. This is gonna be > good 650 minutes of random Hawkwind here I come. > > LoL. > > Rich W > From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Thu May 10 14:18:44 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 19:18:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: MP3/CD Portable Message-ID: I have the Phillips one I bought it just after christmas and so far have had no problems with it cheers colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "E F" To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 7:10 PM Subject: Re: OFF: MP3/CD Portable > I'm looking to get a CD/Mp3 player myself. Which one did you get? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich Warren" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:18 PM > Subject: OFF: MP3/CD Portable > > > > Oh Yeah. > > > > Just got my new portable CD player that'll play MP3s too. This is gonna > be > > good 650 minutes of random Hawkwind here I come. > > > > LoL. > > > > Rich W > > > From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Thu May 10 14:25:04 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:25:04 -0600 Subject: HW:notes from Gong news Message-ID: "Hawkwind -Live at the Astoria 2000 Status - deal hunting Release - unknown I've heard a deal is being sought for this Hawkestra extravaganza which of course featured Tim Blake in the line-up." Mark L From roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 10 14:40:29 2001 From: roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Roger Elmer) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 19:40:29 +0100 Subject: HW:Text of Festival Message-ID: Someone posted up this info a while back on the list (can't remember who though) - The Text Of Festival: Live 1970-2 (Illuminated/DemiMonde 1983) -------------------- Sides 1 and 2 reissued as In The Beginning & Masters of the Universe TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Master Of The Universe 18.08.70 London Dreaming 18.08.70 London Shouldn't Do That 18.08.70 London Hurry On A Sundown 05.11.70 London Paranoia 05.11.70 London Seeing It As.... 05.11.70 London I Do It 05.11.70 London Sound..Shouldn't... 19.04.71 London Improvise..Compromise.. 19.05.71 London > >Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:17:37 -0400 >From: ejobson >Subject: HW:Text of Festival > >Listen to this last night on vinyl and I forgot how good the first of the >two LP's is. Where are all these recordings from, BBC/Top Gear stuff, and >what year as the record just says 70-73? The Master of the Universe is one >of the best I've ever heard and I think better quality on vinyl than a >version I have on CD somewhere, Anthology maybe? Also the guitaring on >Shouldn't do that and Hurry on is great, sounds very Huwey. > >Can anyone clear this up? > >Thanks, > >Eddie. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu May 10 15:12:42 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:12:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: RE: ******* and LIST ETIQUETTE Message-ID: On Fri, 11 May 2001 03:00:38 +0930, Mich at el B wrote: >Which message was that then? Um ... you mean you don't even know what messages you've sent to the list? I might suspect the one with this heading: "any poets out there - or even poetry lovers? OFF F F F F" ... that had the "OFF" in the wrong place so that listserv's all-so- convenient automatic filtering wouldn't kick in properly ... ... or possibly the one titled: "VAGINA" ... which is "OFF", since the message made no mention of Ron Tree or Judge Trev in the message body (which would have warranted a "HW" heading, or at least a "NIK" heading in Trev's case). -Doug (possibly no longer ceres at sirius.com) From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu May 10 15:48:14 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:48:14 EDT Subject: HW:Text of Festival Message-ID: In a message dated 5/10/01 11:41:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > Someone posted up this info a while back on the list (can't remember who > though) - > Interesting. Who posted it? Hopefully Bernard... :) And the line-up that's listed--is this correct, too? > The Text Of Festival: Live 1970-2 (Illuminated/DemiMonde 1983) > -------------------- > > Sides 1 and 2 reissued as In The Beginning & Masters of the Universe > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Master Of The Universe 18.08.70 London I was assuming there must have been some overdubs 'cause I think you can hear sax and Nik singing at the same time... > Dreaming 18.08.70 London > Shouldn't Do That 18.08.70 London > Hurry On A Sundown 05.11.70 London > Paranoia 05.11.70 London > Seeing It As.... 05.11.70 London > I Do It 05.11.70 London Thanks for not listing "Came Home" (or "Come Home", for that matter)! :) Is said track actually available on _any_ of the releases where it's listed?? Chuck > Sound..Shouldn't... 19.04.71 London > Improvise..Compromise.. 19.05.71 London > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu May 10 15:58:32 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:58:32 -0400 Subject: HW:Text of Festival Message-ID: On Thu, 10 May 2001 15:48:14 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >In a message dated 5/10/01 11:41:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: >> Someone posted up this info a while back on the list (can't remember who >> though) - > >Interesting. Who posted it? Hopefully Bernard... :) I'm pretty certain it was :^) >And the line-up that's listed--is this correct, too? > >> The Text Of Festival: Live 1970-2 (Illuminated/DemiMonde 1983) >> -------------------- >> >> Sides 1 and 2 reissued as In The Beginning & Masters of the Universe >> >> TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE >> >> Master Of The Universe 18.08.70 London > >I was assuming there must have been some overdubs 'cause I think you >can hear sax and Nik singing at the same time... I believe that sides 1 & 2 of 'Text of Festival' are BBC sessions recorded at Maida Vale studio? The standard procedure for those was (and still is, AFAIK) for the band to do one (live) tracking session followed by one set of overdubs (usually just vocals), so this would be entirely plausible ... -Doug email? From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu May 10 16:50:35 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 21:50:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: MP3/CD Portable Message-ID: I bought the Goodmans CDMP 350. First impressions are pretty good, specially considering the price, 79pounds. I looked at the Phillips, but it was 50 squid more. I've seen a few other brands. I got mine from Dixons. EB are selling another brand, and I've seen more at computer fairs, some of which will play VideoCDs as well. The Computer fair machines all look like dodgy Hong kong imports ;-), and seem to go for 99pounds. I guess if Goodmans an Phillips are selling stuff it's gone mainstream. Dixons also had a rather fetching car MP3 jukebox, I'd buy one if I had a car!! Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "E F" To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 7:10 PM Subject: Re: OFF: MP3/CD Portable > I'm looking to get a CD/Mp3 player myself. Which one did you get? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich Warren" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:18 PM > Subject: OFF: MP3/CD Portable > > > > Oh Yeah. > > > > Just got my new portable CD player that'll play MP3s too. This is gonna > be > > good 650 minutes of random Hawkwind here I come. > > > > LoL. > > > > Rich W > > > From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu May 10 17:49:23 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:49:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: RE: ******* and LIST ETIQUETTE Message-ID: Who am I? oh, that's easy. I am the god of hellfire From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu May 10 17:51:38 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:51:38 EDT Subject: OFF: RE: ******* and LIST ETIQUETTE In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010510174923.0068fdf0@acmenet.net> Message-ID: On 10 May 2001, at 17:49, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > Who am I? oh, that's easy. > > I am the god of hellfire And he's not kidding! theo From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Thu May 10 21:16:50 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 21:16:50 EDT Subject: lemmy's health, or lack thereof Message-ID: dont know if this has already been reported here; but he new issue of Goldmine features an interview with his lemness. in it, he reports that the cause of his recent ill health is a diagnosis of type II diabetes (which he can maintain through ingesting pills, not, thankfully, shooting up insulin). the motorhead lists are rife with predictions of his imminent demise; be prepered to be skeptical abut what you hear/read. bobm From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu May 10 20:19:07 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:19:07 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: lemmy's health, or lack thereof Message-ID: Bob says... >dont know if this has already been reported here; but he new issue of >Goldmine features an interview with his lemness. in it, he reports that the >cause of his recent ill health is a diagnosis of type II diabetes (which he >can maintain through ingesting pills, not, thankfully, shooting up insulin). >the motorhead lists are rife with predictions of his imminent demise; be >prepered to be skeptical abut what you hear/read. Hmmm...yeah, I saw his ugly mug on the cover of Goldmine and thought maybe I should snag a copy. Alright, so Scott, our resident Diabetes expert and Lemmy interviewer to boot, what is the prognosis here? Is this what Dr. Synth has? Grakkl (FAA) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu May 10 22:14:48 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 22:14:48 -0400 Subject: lemmy's health, or lack thereof Message-ID: On Thu, 10 May 2001 21:16:50 EDT, Robert C. Mayo wrote: >dont know if this has already been reported here; but he new issue of >Goldmine features an interview with his lemness. in it, he reports that the >cause of his recent ill health is a diagnosis of type II diabetes ... Well, there you have it. 30 years of road food is more likely to kill you than 30 years of amphetamine abuse. Just as with Jerry Garcia - a 20-year heroin addict done in by his "Ben & Jerry's" diet, not an OD. And people are out there protesting "genetically engineered" food while not raising a peep about the fact that damn near EVERYTHING you buy in the supermarket (not to mention the fast-food joint) comes LOADED with extra refined sugar - even salty snacks and hamburgers?!? "Speed don't kill and I'm the proof" indeed ... wrong white powder ... -Doug (who enjoys a good dessert but wishes he could buy unadulterated fruit juice from the vending machine ... is that really too much to ask for?) ? From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu May 10 22:30:34 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 03:30:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: lemmy's health, or lack thereof In-Reply-To: <200105110214.WAA16100@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200105110214.WAA16100 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >On Thu, 10 May 2001 21:16:50 EDT, Robert C. Mayo >wrote: >>dont know if this has already been reported here; but he new issue of >>Goldmine features an interview with his lemness. in it, he reports that the >>cause of his recent ill health is a diagnosis of type II diabetes ... > >Well, there you have it. 30 years of road food is more likely to kill you >than 30 years of amphetamine abuse. Just as with Jerry Garcia - a 20-year >heroin addict done in by his "Ben & Jerry's" diet, not an OD. Probably true, but let's face it, Lem's drinking won't have done his pancreas much good, and will have increased his diabetic susceptibility. Most people with this variety of diabetes go on for many years, but internet speculation on Lem's fate is unlikely to be based on good-quality medical information and I would humbly plea that we not indulge in such an exercise here unless we know anything definite. -- Nick Medford From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Thu May 10 22:38:21 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 21:38:21 -0500 Subject: lemmy's health, or lack thereof Message-ID: > dont know if this has already been reported here; but he new issue of > Goldmine features an interview with his lemness. in it, he reports that the > cause of his recent ill health is a diagnosis of type II diabetes (which he > can maintain through ingesting pills, not, thankfully, shooting up insulin). > the motorhead lists are rife with predictions of his imminent demise; be > prepered to be skeptical abut what you hear/read. > bobm And Lemmy makes some comment about it not being too serious, which is pretty far from the truth. If he fails to keep his blood glucose under tight control, his diabetes will result in early heart disease, kidney damage, nerve damage, and retinal damage, in addition to a substantially increased risk for opportunistic infection. Although he isn't using insulin now, type II diabetes can progress to a point where he will require insulin. John Majka (who happens to be a pharmacist) jmajka2 at home.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 10 22:48:09 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:18:09 +0930 Subject: OFF: MP3/CD Portable Message-ID: Gotta get me one of those ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Warren To: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 3:48 AM Subject: OFF: MP3/CD Portable > Oh Yeah. > > Just got my new portable CD player that'll play MP3s too. This is gonna be > good 650 minutes of random Hawkwind here I come. > > LoL. > > Rich W From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 10 23:03:28 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:33:28 +0930 Subject: Public Announcement - and a Hawkwind question Message-ID: Just a short note to publicly announce that all proper etiquette has been digitally encoded into my brand new shiny silicone chip located somewhere in my brain and that I will do my utmost to adhere to them as humanly possible. I hope my previous email was not offensive to anyone - just clowning around. I'll be much more mature from now on. any word on the Festival weekend deal my good fellows? Michael 'Alien Dream' Blackman From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Fri May 11 01:06:03 2001 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:06:03 +1000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: nomail From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri May 11 02:26:10 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 07:26:10 +0100 Subject: FW: Weird #6 FAO - Victoria Message-ID: Hi, Whoever wanted Weird#6 see below. Sam -----Original Message----- From: VP-MO [mailto:Voiceprint_mailorder at compuserve.com] Sent: 10 May 2001 22:55 To: INTERNET:samantha.kirwan at ntl.com Subject: FW: Weird #6 FAO - Victoria Hi sorry for the delay in replying yes I have a few left as it is deleted so once they are gone they are gone.. you can order direct on this e mail leaving cc and postal details Victoria *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 11 03:29:33 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:29:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: lemmy's health, or lack thereof In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Nick Medford writes >Most people with this variety of diabetes go on for many years, Most people with the other variety tend to hang in there for a while too! -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 11 03:28:24 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:28:24 +0100 Subject: OFF : lemmy's health, or lack thereof In-Reply-To: <200105110214.WAA16100@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200105110214.WAA16100 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >Well, there you have it. 30 years of road food is more likely to kill you >than 30 years of amphetamine abuse. Just as with Jerry Garcia - a 20-year >heroin addict done in by his "Ben & Jerry's" diet, not an OD. > >And people are out there protesting "genetically engineered" food while not >raising a peep about the fact that damn near EVERYTHING you buy in the >supermarket (not to mention the fast-food joint) comes LOADED with extra >refined sugar - even salty snacks and hamburgers?!? Type I (insulin - dependant) diabetes, like me and Jerry Garcia, (when the pancreas no longer produces insulin) and Type II like Lemmy and Chris (!) where insulin is produced but is not mobilised properly and has to be facilitated by an oral agent such as Glucophage, are different conditions with similar symptoms. Neither of them are caused by abuse, or self-neglect. Yup, when you got them you sure have to control your diet and lifestyle, but Lemmy's Type II was not *caused* by eating sugar. If you're not diabetic, eating all the sugar in America won't make you diabetic, just overweight! -- Jon NP The Ramones - Adios Amigos Life's a gas, Life's a gas oh yeah! So don't be sad, cause I'll be there, Don't be sad at all...... - Joey Ramone From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 11 04:08:44 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:08:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <200105091719.KAA29501@bob.te-cats.com> Message-ID: In article <200105091719.KAA29501 at bob.te-cats.com>, John H. McCartney writes >I heard that he had given up and rejoined Genesis, but I've not seen >anything 'official', anyone know? He hasn't. For now, Genesis R.I.P. is official. Though there's rumours on alt.music.genesis of a show in Milton Keynes under the name Old Friends, with Gabriel but most probably without Steve Hackett. If you like or like me, used to enjoy Gabriel era stuff 20 years ago and haven't listened to a note since the punk rock wars of 77, I was surprised to find the recent Archive Box 1 brilliant! Box 2 stinks though, all 12" remix 80's b-sides -- Jon Born Again Prog Fan From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Fri May 11 06:20:26 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:20:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: MP3/CD Portable Message-ID: >From: Rich Warren > Just got my new portable CD player that'll play MP3s too. This is gonna be > good 650 minutes of random Hawkwind here I come. I considered one of these, but in the end bought an ordinary portable CD player (cheaper). My theory was that CDRs are cheap and small, so carrying your music round as audio CDRs was almost as convenient as MP3 CDRs,and a bit easier to burn. So I lug a small pile of audio CDRs made from my (legit bought) HW&others collection and from the mp3s I've picked up here and there, and can play them anywhere. Sorry, I'm an academic, I have to play devil's advocate. Mark From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Fri May 11 11:41:12 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:41:12 -0400 Subject: Still searching for Weird #6 In-Reply-To: <200105101459.HAA14665@mail25.bigmailbox.com> Message-ID: Think I saw most of these at Virgin Megastore in Oxford Street the other day. The Dave Brock one was certainly one of the ones they had. Trying calling them first. -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Wood [mailto:mwood at MY-DEJA.COM] Sent: 10 May 2001 10:59 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Still searching for Weird #6 OK, I just received confirmation that Weirdos #1 & #5 are en route to me. So that just leaves #6. Does anyone know of anyplace that might have some of these remaining? If not, is it too early to start talking about (ahem) other methods of procurement? MWood NP: Starfield - _Return to Earth_ (Special Ltd Edition) ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Fri May 11 11:48:58 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:48:58 -0400 Subject: HW:Text of Festival In-Reply-To: <001b01c0d980$b1e6ad20$9969883e@roger> Message-ID: Thanks for the info. Didn't even know MOTU was written that early! Surely this wasn't the first performance of it, as it sounded so tight. Maida Vale according to Bernhards list. Also if live versions of It's so Easy and You'd better belive it were released in '74, (Edmonton?)surely the band/Dave must have tapes of the complete gigs. Did these other tracks ever get officially released anywhere? Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: Roger Elmer [mailto:roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK] Sent: 10 May 2001 14:40 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW:Text of Festival Someone posted up this info a while back on the list (can't remember who though) - The Text Of Festival: Live 1970-2 (Illuminated/DemiMonde 1983) -------------------- Sides 1 and 2 reissued as In The Beginning & Masters of the Universe TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Master Of The Universe 18.08.70 London Dreaming 18.08.70 London Shouldn't Do That 18.08.70 London Hurry On A Sundown 05.11.70 London Paranoia 05.11.70 London Seeing It As.... 05.11.70 London I Do It 05.11.70 London Sound..Shouldn't... 19.04.71 London Improvise..Compromise.. 19.05.71 London > >Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:17:37 -0400 >From: ejobson >Subject: HW:Text of Festival > >Listen to this last night on vinyl and I forgot how good the first of the >two LP's is. Where are all these recordings from, BBC/Top Gear stuff, and >what year as the record just says 70-73? The Master of the Universe is one >of the best I've ever heard and I think better quality on vinyl than a >version I have on CD somewhere, Anthology maybe? Also the guitaring on >Shouldn't do that and Hurry on is great, sounds very Huwey. > >Can anyone clear this up? > >Thanks, > >Eddie. From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 11 06:56:15 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:56:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Jon Browne writes >If you like or like me, used to enjoy Gabriel era stuff 20 years ago and >haven't listened to a note since the punk rock wars of 77, I was >surprised to find the recent Archive Box 1 brilliant! What's on that? Is there much unreleased stuff? Worth getting if you already have the original albums, is basically what I'm wondering? -- Nick Medford From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri May 11 07:05:07 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:05:07 +0100 Subject: OFF: MP3/CD Portable In-Reply-To: Rich Warren's message of Thu, 10 May 2001 21:50:35 +0100 Message-ID: Rich Warren writes: > I bought the Goodmans CDMP 350. First impressions are pretty good, > specially considering the price, 79pounds. I looked at the Phillips, but it > was 50 squid more. I've seen a few other brands. I got mine from Dixons. > EB are selling another brand, and I've seen more at computer fairs, some of > which will play VideoCDs as well. The Computer fair machines all look like > dodgy Hong kong imports ;-), and seem to go for 99pounds. > > I guess if Goodmans an Phillips are selling stuff it's gone mainstream. > Dixons also had a rather fetching car MP3 jukebox, I'd buy one if I had a > car!! The only problem with buying Goodmans kit is that I've heard that there's essentially no technical support or spares available and so if there's a later problem that can't be dealt with by a replacement under guarantee then it's hard to impossible to get anyone to repair the kit. On the other hand, it seems that this is factored into the prices which are definitely quite low. From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Fri May 11 07:06:32 2001 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 04:06:32 -0700 Subject: FW: Weird #6 FAO - Victoria Message-ID: Hmmm. I sent a message to Victoria at Voiceprint a couple of weeks ago, and she told me that it was gone. In hopes that they've somehow landed a few more copies, I sent my order in anyway. Thanks a lot! MWood NP: Dark Sun w/Nik - _Ice Ritual_ >Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 07:26:10 +0100 >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >From: Samantha Kirwan >SUBJECTTo: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Hi, > >Whoever wanted Weird#6 see below. > >Sam > > >-----Original Message----- >From: VP-MO [mailto:Voiceprint_mailorder at compuserve.com] >Sent: 10 May 2001 22:55 >To: INTERNET:samantha.kirwan at ntl.com >Subject: FW: Weird #6 FAO - Victoria > > >Hi sorry for the delay in replying > >yes I have a few left as it is deleted so once they are gone they are >gone.. you can order direct on this e mail leaving cc and postal details > >Victoria > > >*********************************************************************************** >The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted >with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention >of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or >copying of this document is unauthorised. > >Thank you >NTL >*********************************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Fri May 11 07:09:07 2001 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 04:09:07 -0700 Subject: lemmy's health, or lack thereof Message-ID: >John Majka (who happens to be a pharmacist) If I had a nickel for every Hawkwind fan who said that! MWood ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 11 07:19:41 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:19:41 +0100 Subject: OFF : lemmy's health, or lack thereof In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Jon Browne writes > >Type I (insulin - dependant) diabetes, like me and Jerry Garcia, (when >the pancreas no longer produces insulin) and Type II like Lemmy and >Chris (!) where insulin is produced but is not mobilised properly and >has to be facilitated by an oral agent such as Glucophage, are different >conditions with similar symptoms. > >Neither of them are caused by abuse, or self-neglect. Certainly Type 1 isn't. >Yup, when you got >them you sure have to control your diet and lifestyle, but Lemmy's Type >II was not *caused* by eating sugar. If you're not diabetic, eating all >the sugar in America won't make you diabetic, just overweight! I hate to argue with you, particularly when the topic's obviously close to home, but, y'know, it's a bit more complicated than that... Type 2 diabetes usually comes on in middle age. Two-thirds of people in the UK with this condition are obese. Granted, it's over-simplistic to say that over-eating *caused* the condition. There are significant genetic and innate biochemical factors involved. However: unhealthy diet is nevertheless a significant risk factor for developing the condition, as is heavy alcohol consumption. So while it may be true that eating lots of sugar and drinking heavily won't make you diabetic if you don't have any of the other risk factors, it's also true to say that if you *do* have risk factors, then avoiding that kind of diet may allow you to avoid developing diabetes. I'm a doctor by the way, and as I said before I feel rather uncomfortable with the way we're speculating on Lem's problems here, but I also have a thing about medical misinformation on the Internet, so I hope no-one will be offended by this further post. -- Nick Medford From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Fri May 11 09:42:03 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 07:42:03 -0600 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: let's not forget Klaus Schulze Mark L From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 11 11:00:32 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:00:32 +0100 Subject: OFF : lemmy's health, or lack thereof In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Nick Medford writes >I'm a doctor by the way, and as I said before I feel rather uncomfortable >with the way we're speculating on Lem's problems here, but I also have a >thing about medical misinformation on the Internet, so I hope no-one will >be offended by this further post. I bow to your greater knowledge, then, squire. You can understand though, how it would annoy when society's opinion of diabetics (I or II) is we deserve what we got, and brought it on ourselves. I certainly didn't eat all the pies, and I doubt Lemmy did either. I've never been more than 11 stone at my heaviest and Lemmy doesn't seem to have much of a belly either! -- Jon Life's a gas, Life's a gas, oh yeah! So don't be sad, cause I'll be there, Don't be sad at all...... - Joey Ramone From richard.cutting at JHC.CO.UK Fri May 11 11:06:11 2001 From: richard.cutting at JHC.CO.UK (Richard Cutting/JHC) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:06:11 +0100 Subject: OFF : lemmy's health, or lack thereof Message-ID: In article , Nick Medford writes >I'm a doctor by the way, But are you a "Flying Doctor" ? "The cabinet key, he's got the cabinet key......." ( Someone had to do it ! ) From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Fri May 11 11:33:30 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:33:30 -0400 Subject: OFF: MP3/CD Portable Message-ID: From: "Mark Jermy" > >From: Rich Warren > > Just got my new portable CD player that'll play MP3s too. This is gonna > be > > good 650 minutes of random Hawkwind here I come. > > I considered one of these, but in the end bought an ordinary portable CD > player (cheaper). My theory was that CDRs are cheap and small, so carrying > your music round as audio CDRs was almost as convenient as MP3 CDRs,and a > bit easier to burn. So I lug a small pile of audio CDRs made from my (legit > bought) HW&others collection and from the mp3s I've picked up here and > there, and can play them anywhere. The biggest plus for me was being able to carry 6 - 8 hours of music on one mp3 CDR (I rip as VBR ~200kbit). I can also do CD-RW. I have the Expanium 401. It doesn't have ID3 support (maybe the new 503 will). I won't buy anything that supports DRM (Digital Rights Management). Jerry From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri May 11 12:38:54 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:38:54 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Burg Herzberg In-Reply-To: <200104241803.OAA06345@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Chris Appelt wrote: > you forgot to mention the > > Starsound Orchestra > > with Steve Schroyder (Ex-Tangerine Dream) and the best gong-player of the > country Jens Zygar. Ooh, I didn't know Herr Schroyder was still in the business. What did he do after TD? I rather like what little I can identify of his input on those two albums. _Alpha Centauri_ is probably my second favourite (after _Rubycon_). Yours, Jon ObCD: High Tide - _Sea Shanties_/_High Tide_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 11 12:53:06 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:53:06 -0400 Subject: OFF : lemmy's health, or lack thereof Message-ID: On Fri, 11 May 2001 16:00:32 +0100, Jon Browne wrote: >I bow to your greater knowledge, then, squire. >You can understand though, how it would annoy when society's opinion of >diabetics (I or II) is we deserve what we got, and brought it on >ourselves. Oh yeah, indeed- there's a PhD thesis just begging to be written on the way people are blamed for their illnesses or disabilities. (Glenn Hoddle, take a bow.) From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri May 11 13:19:39 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 18:19:39 +0100 Subject: HW:Text of Festival Message-ID: I would beg to differ about the dates for some of these: According to the BBC sessions archive list, Hawkwind recorded Masters/Dreaming/Shouldn't on 27/5/71 at Maida Vale Studio 4. For the record (!) the engineers were Malcolm Brown, Mike Harding and Mike Franks. It was broadcast on the Stuart Henry show on 19/5/71. I would guess Hurry On Sundown and I Came Home are from the notorious John Peel Sunday Concert of 5/11/70, after which, and I quote, "a roadie stole a mike leading to the band being temporarily banned". Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Pearson To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 8:58 PM Subject: Re: HW:Text of Festival > On Thu, 10 May 2001 15:48:14 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > >In a message dated 5/10/01 11:41:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > >roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > >> Someone posted up this info a while back on the list (can't remember who > >> though) - > > > >Interesting. Who posted it? Hopefully Bernard... :) > > I'm pretty certain it was :^) > > >And the line-up that's listed--is this correct, too? > > > >> The Text Of Festival: Live 1970-2 (Illuminated/DemiMonde 1983) > >> -------------------- > >> > >> Sides 1 and 2 reissued as In The Beginning & Masters of the Universe > >> > >> TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > >> > >> Master Of The Universe 18.08.70 London > > > >I was assuming there must have been some overdubs 'cause I think you > >can hear sax and Nik singing at the same time... > > I believe that sides 1 & 2 of 'Text of Festival' are BBC sessions recorded > at Maida Vale studio? The standard procedure for those was (and still is, > AFAIK) for the band to do one (live) tracking session followed by one set > of overdubs (usually just vocals), so this would be entirely plausible ... > > -Doug > email? From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Fri May 11 14:17:21 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:17:21 -0600 Subject: HW:Text of Festival In-Reply-To: <006d01c0da3e$94d83a00$1d0c28d5@starfield> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck Subject: Re: HW:Text of Festival I would beg to differ about the dates for some of these: ...Hawkwind recorded Masters/Dreaming/Shouldn't on 27/5/71 ... ...It was broadcast on the Stuart Henry show on 19/5/71. Do the time warp, baby... Mark L From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri May 11 14:27:11 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:27:11 -0400 Subject: HW: Kadu Flyer Message-ID: After all the recent praise for ASAM, I've just been listening to it for the first time in ages, What I'd like to know is, who played the sitar at the end of Kadu flyer? And does anyone know who that chap is pictured in the Atom Henge booklet next to the pic of the 'Time of the Hawklords' book? Cheers, Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri May 11 14:37:14 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:37:14 -0400 Subject: OFF : lemmy's health, or lack thereof Message-ID: On Fri, 11 May 2001 12:19:41 +0100, Nick Medford wrote: >In message , Jon Browne > writes >>Type I (insulin - dependant) diabetes, like me and Jerry Garcia, I was under the impression that Garcia had type 2, developed in middle age. My mistake. (I'll add that I have *some* experience with type 1, as one of my childhood friends had it, so it was interesting to see him test his sugar levels on a regular basis etc. ... and pretty scary to see a 10- year-old shoot up, although not as scary as the one time he went into Insulin Shock during recess.) >>Neither of them are caused by abuse, or self-neglect. > >Certainly Type 1 isn't. > [snip] >I hate to argue with you, particularly when the topic's obviously close to >home, but, y'know, it's a bit more complicated than that... > >Type 2 diabetes usually comes on in middle age. Two-thirds of people >in the UK with this condition are obese. Granted, it's over-simplistic >to say that over-eating *caused* the condition. There are significant >genetic and innate biochemical factors involved. However: unhealthy diet >is nevertheless a significant risk factor for developing the condition, >as is heavy alcohol consumption. So while it may be true that eating lots >of sugar and drinking heavily won't make you diabetic if you don't have >any of the other risk factors, it's also true to say that if you *do* >have risk factors, then avoiding that kind of diet may allow you to >avoid developing diabetes. Exactly, one of those cases where *correlation* can be demonstrated, but causality can not necessarily be proven (yet ... ?). Thanks for clearing that up. >I'm a doctor by the way, and as I said before I feel rather uncomfortable >with the way we're speculating on Lem's problems here, but I also have a >thing about medical misinformation on the Internet, so I hope no-one will >be offended by this further post. I agree, speculation is pointless. However, I think it's important for the facts of the disease to be out there for those of us who are curious. Especially since there are significant differences between the two types. So Nick, all factual posts have been greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com ( <= note new address!!! ) P.S. I hope that nobody construed my previous message as a "blame the victim" assertion per se ... it was a general commentary on the fact that we, as a society, tend to not be aware of the crap we put in our own bodies (I'm as guilty of this as anyone else), and that it's not in the economic interests of the producers of said crap for us to care. From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Fri May 11 14:46:20 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:46:20 -0700 Subject: OFF: Drummers Message-ID: > >If you like or like me, used to enjoy Gabriel era stuff 20 years ago and > >haven't listened to a note since the punk rock wars of 77, I was > >surprised to find the recent Archive Box 1 brilliant! > > What's on that? Is there much unreleased stuff? Worth getting if you already > have the original albums, is basically what I'm wondering? It's basically all new, unless you have a copy of the Italian bootleg package "From One Fan To All Others". What you get is a 2 disc live Lamb of excellent quality, a *lot* of songs that didn't make the first album and others that were discarded before Trespass, and assorted b-sides and such. Well worth the $40 price, and even better when you can get it for $18 like I managed! As for the 2nd box, eh, if I can find it used at a steal I may get it, mostly for the live stuff, I already have most of the b-sides (which, I might add, are often the most progressive stuff the later Genesis put out...) scorch From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri May 11 15:09:21 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 20:09:21 +0100 Subject: HW:Text of Festival Message-ID: Ah, yes. Reverse the dates! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Licht To: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 7:17 PM Subject: Re: HW:Text of Festival > -----Original Message----- > From: Captain Bl at ck > Subject: Re: HW:Text of Festival > > > I would beg to differ about the dates for some of these: > > ...Hawkwind recorded Masters/Dreaming/Shouldn't on 27/5/71 ... > ...It was broadcast on the Stuart Henry show on 19/5/71. > > > > Do the time warp, baby... > > Mark L From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri May 11 15:09:50 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 20:09:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Kadu Flyer Message-ID: Uncle Paul Rudolph perhaps? ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Crook To: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 7:27 PM Subject: Re: HW: Kadu Flyer > After all the recent praise for ASAM, I've just been listening to it for the first time in ages, What I'd like to know is, who played the sitar at the end of Kadu flyer? And does anyone know who that chap is pictured in the Atom Henge booklet next to the pic of the 'Time of the Hawklords' book? > > Cheers, > Mick > > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Fri May 11 17:16:08 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:16:08 +0100 Subject: HW: Dates? Message-ID: Hi, Can someone please summarise what venues and dates HW are possibly playing in the near future? I've heard mention of a 10-date UK tour, Donington, Herne Bay, Lake District, an all-dayer in Birmingham in November, but many of them have are little more than hearsay. Jez From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri May 11 19:05:57 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 19:05:57 EDT Subject: OFF: Farflung yet again (was: Drummers) Message-ID: In a message dated 5/9/01 4:16:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > Oops ... sorry if I wasn't being clear. Bob was the drummer in Twink's > backing band (which IS Bob's band, Backbiter). Yes, I would assume that > Brandon drummed for Farflung. Huh?? No, I meant Twink! Now I'm really confused. FF's drummer was kinda tall, bald, not chubby like Twink's glittery drummer. and who the hell is Gammaknife?? Chuck From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri May 11 19:31:24 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 19:31:24 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farflung yet again (was: Drummers) Message-ID: On Fri, 11 May 2001 19:05:57 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >Huh?? No, I meant Twink! Now I'm really confused. FF's drummer was kinda >tall, bald, not chubby like Twink's glittery drummer. Confusion reigns! pix of Bob Lee can be seen on his page: http://www.mindspring.com/~bobzilla77/ and Backbiter's page: http://pw1.netcom.com/~chrisp/Backbiter/bob.html Is that your glittery shirt (sounds in character) man? Incidentally, Bob's page includes his account of the first show Backbiter played backing up Twink back in january ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri May 11 19:38:06 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 19:38:06 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 5/5/01 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck 5/5 1.Sundial-- "Mind Train Jam" (Psychedelic Psauna comp; Delerium Records) 2.Magnasparagus-- "Eggshells for Breakfast" (ST'd; Orange Entropy Records) 3.Farflung-- "When I Woke to Sleep No More" (Live w/Nik Turner @ Strange Daze '99; Strange Trips Records) 4.Anubian Lights-- "Mars" (Live w/Nik Turner; Strange Trips Records) 5.Systems Theory-- "Where Titans Sleep" (Demos '99-'00) 6.Orb-- "Close Encounters" (Dipping into the Cyberworld; Trance Records) 7.Alchemysts and Simeon-- "Hydrophobic" (Simeon and the Alchemysts; Rubric Records) 8.Subarachnoid Space-- "Outlined in Rust" (Almost Invisible; Release Records) 9.ST 37-- "Planet Earth Mental Hospital" (Glare; Electric Jug Records) 10.Saturnia-- "Organo" (II) 11.Hawkwind-- "Shade Gate/Rocky Paths" (Live Chronicles; Griffin Records) 12.Gong-- "Flying Teapot" (Live Etc; Virgin Records) 13.Knights of the Occasional Table thanks, Chuck From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 11 19:50:51 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 19:50:51 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farflung yet again (was: Drummers) Message-ID: On Fri, 11 May 2001 19:31:24 -0400, I wrote: > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com ... and that should be: -Doug jasret at mindspring.com Sorry for the wasted bandwidth! From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 11 20:05:26 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 20:05:26 -0400 Subject: ADMIN: dead email Message-ID: Ben, I tried to Email you privately, but my Emails won't go through to you for the same reason they won't go through to boc-l, so I have to post this to boc-l, using the web interface (I really, really, wish that spc.edu wouldn't block the ISP I have to send Email through, it's not like boc-l gets cluttered up with SPAM but I digress). Anyway, my old Email address, ceres at sirius.com, is dead. I tried to unsubscribe it through the web interface, but I believe its expecting a confirmation reply from that account, which I no longer have access to. So you would probably want to uns*bscribe the account manually. Everyone else - after over six years as my address, ceres at sirius.com is DEAD. No mail to that address will reach me. Firstworld in Denver can go f*ck off and die, now. You DON'T want them as an ISP. Thanks, -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri May 11 23:26:54 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 12:56:54 +0930 Subject: HW: Dates? Message-ID: These dates you seek may all be read upon the mighty codex of Mission control Mr Squiggle ----- Original Message ----- From: J D To: Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 6:46 AM Subject: HW: Dates? Hi, Can someone please summarise what venues and dates HW are possibly playing in the near future? I've heard mention of a 10-date UK tour, Donington, Herne Bay, Lake District, an all-dayer in Birmingham in November, but many of them have are little more than hearsay. Jez From sebastian at WELTON.DE Sat May 12 06:13:21 2001 From: sebastian at WELTON.DE (Sebastian Welton) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 06:13:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: Burg Herzberg Message-ID: On Thu, 3 May 2001 12:04:00 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >P.S. Is it Finkenbach, near Bad Kreuznach? Or Finkenbach near Heidelberg, >in Odenwald? Either is close to Frankfurt also, so that would work nicely. Finkenbach in the Odenwald (where men are men and daughters better watch out!) And from the website: Hello Guru lover, the Finkenbachdate 2001 is out (Mani hat ihn eben erst rausgerueckt) 13.-14.07. Performers are: -Tavil -Pyranjas -Django Edwards -GURU GURU -Byron Holmes Band -Dinho Alives -Buba Jammeh Group -KRAAN -Lover 303 + -Playground Fire Show Cheers, Seb From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat May 12 07:31:37 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 12:31:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Dates? Message-ID: MISSION CONTROL www.hawkwind.org.uk Hi Jeremy Click on the above web address and then go to Tour News which will give you all the information that's currently available. And then go to all the other links - 'cos it's a great site well worth exploring! But if you haven't got web access let me know and I'll do an email summary of the web page tour info for you (as far as I can). cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: J D To: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:16 PM Subject: HW: Dates? Hi, Can someone please summarise what venues and dates HW are possibly playing in the near future? I've heard mention of a 10-date UK tour, Donington, Herne Bay, Lake District, an all-dayer in Birmingham in November, but many of them have are little more than hearsay. Jez From sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK Sat May 12 07:50:46 2001 From: sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 12:50:46 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Douglas Adams Dies Message-ID: Sad news from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1326000/1326657.stm Author Douglas Adams, who wrote The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, has died suddenly aged 49. Mr Adams died on Friday morning in Santa Barbara, California, following a heart attack, said his spokeswoman Sophie Astin. Adams's novel was turned into a BBC series The author became a household name when the cult science fiction novel was turned into a BBC TV series. Adams was born in Cambridge in 1952 and educated in Essex before returning to Cambridge to study at St John's College. His career included work as a radio and television writer and producer before his life was changed by the publication of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in 1979. Film The satirical tale chronicled the journey of alien Ford Prefect and his human companion Arthur Dent throughout the universe after the destruction of Earth. It centred around the search for an answer to life, the universe, and everything - which turned out to be 42. Arthur Dent and Slartibartfast became cult figures The novel went on to sell more than 14 million copies worldwide and was followed by the sequels The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, Life, the Universe and Everything and So Long and Thanks For All the Fish. In recent years the author had been working on a Hitchhiker's Guide movie. There was much speculation about who would play Arthur Dent, with Hugh Laurie, Rowan Atkinson, Jim Carrey, Ben Affleck and even Bruce Willis said to be in the running. Adams married Jane Belson in 1991 and had a daughter, Polly, in 1994. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sat May 12 07:58:17 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 19:58:17 +0800 Subject: (OFF) Douglas Adams Dies Message-ID: Sadness Runs Deep. One of the finest authors of our time. He's off to the Restaurant at the End of the Universe. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Si Halley" To: Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: (OFF) Douglas Adams Dies > Sad news from: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1326000/1326657.stm > > Author Douglas Adams, who wrote The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, has > died suddenly aged 49. > Mr Adams died on Friday morning in Santa Barbara, California, following a > heart attack, said his spokeswoman Sophie Astin. > Adams's novel was turned into a BBC series > The author became a household name when the cult science fiction novel was > turned into a BBC TV series. > Adams was born in Cambridge in 1952 and educated in Essex before returning > to Cambridge to study at St John's College. > His career included work as a radio and television writer and producer > before his life was changed by the publication of The Hitchhiker's Guide to > the Galaxy in 1979. > > Film > The satirical tale chronicled the journey of alien Ford Prefect and his > human companion Arthur Dent throughout the universe after the destruction of > Earth. > It centred around the search for an answer to life, the universe, and > everything - which turned out to be 42. > Arthur Dent and Slartibartfast became cult figures > The novel went on to sell more than 14 million copies worldwide and was > followed by the sequels The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, Life, the > Universe and Everything and So Long and Thanks For All the Fish. > In recent years the author had been working on a Hitchhiker's Guide movie. > There was much speculation about who would play Arthur Dent, with Hugh > Laurie, Rowan Atkinson, Jim Carrey, Ben Affleck and even Bruce Willis said > to be in the running. > Adams married Jane Belson in 1991 and had a daughter, Polly, in 1994. > From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 12 09:00:14 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 14:00:14 +0100 Subject: OFF : lemmy's health, or lack thereof In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Richard Cutting/JHC writes >In article , Nick Medford > writes >>I'm a doctor by the way, > >But are you a "Flying Doctor" ? > >"The cabinet key, he's got the cabinet key......." They took my cabinet key away, right after I announced I had the serum and I was going to take it. -- Nick Medford From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat May 12 09:05:30 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 14:05:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... > aloha space cadets.... > > the greek hawklord needs some answers in these two questions.... > > 1- is it harder to find a "normal" original copy of astounding sounds > vinyl (charisma cds 4004 brown label) , you know, the one without the > reversed sleeve, than the mistyped front-back sleeve? > i have the eagle in front and girl in back, ind i found it same circa > 5 times or so.... (please mention the first pressings only, i.e > brown charisma labels, and not represses) and i never found a "normal > copy....(girl front-eagle back) I don't think a "normal" copy exists does it? As far as I know the sleeve was deliberately done with the eagle and tracklisting on front and girl on the back. Just to be different. I could be misremembering here but doesn't Brian Tawn mention this somewhere in one of his publications? > 2- i found 2 copies (ordered) of "25 years on" (charisma cds 4014 > brown label, first pressings) the one having "hawklords" on spine and > the other "hawklords 25 years on" on spine..... > me and my pal tossed coin and i got the very first one (full title on > spine). i know it is more rare but the retailer sold the 2 copies equal (they > were identical apart the spine lettering.... can you tell me how rare is it to find "full lettered spine" copies? > was i much much lucier than my friend? The vinyl inside is not quite identical. Interestingly I went record shopping in London after the Astoria gig and found a Hawklords vinyl album which I bought as a spare copy. I hadn't checked the spine lettering until just now. The album I bought reads 'Hawklords 25 years On'. The album I already had (together with the booklet, although I think this was actually sold separately for the tour) reads 'Hawklords'. If however you check the album itself and look at the numbers in the run off groove 'Hawklords 25 Years On' sleeve album has A#1 and B#1 printed on the relevant sides. The 'Hawklords' sleeve album has A#2 and B#2 printed on the relevant sides. I therefore conclude that the sleeve labelled "Hawlords 25 Years On" contains a first pressing and the "Hawklords" sleeve contains a re-issue. Quod erat demonstrandum (as it were). I understand the 'full lettered spine' is less frequently found than the other version though how much rarer it is I can't say since both versions are difficult to find these days! Hope this is comprehensible! jill PS:: I'm copying this to boc-l in case someone there has greater depth and inside knowledge than I do. > > thanks from ricky"the hawklord" from greece ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 12 09:13:26 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 14:13:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <200105111846.LAA03385@bob.te-cats.com> Message-ID: In message <200105111846.LAA03385 at bob.te-cats.com>, John H. McCartney writes > >It's basically all new, unless you have a copy of the Italian bootleg >package "From One Fan To All Others". > >What you get is a 2 disc live Lamb of excellent quality, a *lot* of >songs that didn't make the first album and others that were discarded >before Trespass, and assorted b-sides and such. Well worth the $40 >price, and even better when you can get it for $18 like I managed! > Cheers for response. Might check it out one of these days. Thing is, I so hate what they later became, that I find it hard to completely forget that even when listening to the early stuff. >As for the 2nd box, eh, if I can find it used at a steal I may get it, >mostly for the live stuff, I already have most of the b-sides (which, >I might add, are often the most progressive stuff the later Genesis >put out...) Yeah, tracks like "Submarine" and "Naminanu" show that, in early 80s at least, they could still do it when they wanted to, but they obviously didn't want to frighten their new poptastic audience by putting such stuff on the albums. -- Nick Medford From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat May 12 10:12:22 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 22:12:22 +0800 Subject: (OFF) Douglas Adams Dies Message-ID: Very sad news indeed. He was also script editor for Doctor Who at one stage, & wrote some Doctor Who adventures. One, titled Shada, was partly rewritten as the first Dirk Gently novel. One of the Hitchhiker novels (the one with the Krikketmen) was originally a script he wrote for a planned Doctor Who movie. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Si Halley" To: Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: (OFF) Douglas Adams Dies > Sad news from: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1326000/1326657.stm > > Author Douglas Adams, who wrote The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, has > died suddenly aged 49. > Mr Adams died on Friday morning in Santa Barbara, California, following a > heart attack, said his spokeswoman Sophie Astin. > Adams's novel was turned into a BBC series > The author became a household name when the cult science fiction novel was > turned into a BBC TV series. > Adams was born in Cambridge in 1952 and educated in Essex before returning > to Cambridge to study at St John's College. > His career included work as a radio and television writer and producer > before his life was changed by the publication of The Hitchhiker's Guide to > the Galaxy in 1979. > > Film > The satirical tale chronicled the journey of alien Ford Prefect and his > human companion Arthur Dent throughout the universe after the destruction of > Earth. > It centred around the search for an answer to life, the universe, and > everything - which turned out to be 42. > Arthur Dent and Slartibartfast became cult figures > The novel went on to sell more than 14 million copies worldwide and was > followed by the sequels The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, Life, the > Universe and Everything and So Long and Thanks For All the Fish. > In recent years the author had been working on a Hitchhiker's Guide movie. > There was much speculation about who would play Arthur Dent, with Hugh > Laurie, Rowan Atkinson, Jim Carrey, Ben Affleck and even Bruce Willis said > to be in the running. > Adams married Jane Belson in 1991 and had a daughter, Polly, in 1994. > From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sat May 12 10:14:05 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 15:14:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... Message-ID: Hi, ASAM does exist in both sleeve formats, no idea which is "correct" and which is "reversed" though. And yes, both on brown Charisma label. Both came with the inner sleeve. I've got 2 or 3 of one sleeve & just 1 of the other (which I assume is the rarer). I'll check which is which, if interested. Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Strobridge To: Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 2:05 PM Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 1:00 PM > Subject: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... > > > > aloha space cadets.... > > > > the greek hawklord needs some answers in these two questions.... > > > > 1- is it harder to find a "normal" original copy of astounding > sounds > > vinyl (charisma cds 4004 brown label) , you know, the one without > the > > reversed sleeve, than the mistyped front-back sleeve? > > i have the eagle in front and girl in back, ind i found it same > circa > > 5 times or so.... (please mention the first pressings only, i.e > > brown charisma labels, and not represses) and i never found a > "normal > > copy....(girl front-eagle back) > > I don't think a "normal" copy exists does it? As far as I know > the sleeve was deliberately done with the eagle and tracklisting on > front and girl on the back. Just to be different. I could be > misremembering here but doesn't Brian Tawn mention this somewhere in > one of his publications? > > > 2- i found 2 copies (ordered) of "25 years on" (charisma cds 4014 > > brown label, first pressings) the one having "hawklords" on spine > and > > the other "hawklords 25 years on" on spine..... > > me and my pal tossed coin and i got the very first one (full title > on > > spine). i know it is more rare but the retailer sold the 2 copies > equal (they > > were identical apart the spine lettering.... can you tell me how > rare is it to find "full lettered spine" copies? > > was i much much lucier than my friend? > > The vinyl inside is not quite identical. Interestingly I went > record shopping in London after the Astoria gig and found a > Hawklords vinyl album which I bought as a spare copy. I hadn't > checked the spine lettering until just now. The album I bought > reads 'Hawklords 25 years On'. The album I already had (together > with the booklet, although I think this was actually sold separately > for the tour) reads 'Hawklords'. If however you check the album > itself and look at the numbers in the run off groove 'Hawklords 25 > Years On' sleeve album has A#1 and B#1 printed on the relevant > sides. The 'Hawklords' sleeve album has A#2 and B#2 printed on > the relevant sides. I therefore conclude that the sleeve > labelled "Hawlords 25 Years On" contains a first pressing and the > "Hawklords" sleeve contains a re-issue. > Quod erat demonstrandum (as it were). > > I understand the 'full lettered spine' is less frequently found than > the other version though how much rarer it is I can't say since both > versions are difficult to find these days! > > Hope this is comprehensible! > jill > PS:: I'm copying this to boc-l in case someone there has greater > depth and inside knowledge than I do. > > > > > thanks from ricky"the hawklord" from greece > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 12 08:27:59 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 13:27:59 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Douglas Adams Dies In-Reply-To: <00f701c0dada$d5162d60$5bc13bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: In article <00f701c0dada$d5162d60$5bc13bcb at freeaqua>, Bill & Cynthia writes >Sadness Runs Deep. One of the finest authors of our time. He's off to the >Restaurant at the End of the Universe. > >Bill Total Bummer. Respect for a hoopy frood, who really knew where his towel was. pour a Janx spirit for me. -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 12 10:42:17 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 15:42:17 +0100 Subject: OFF: Genesis In-Reply-To: <38tSBKA2bT$6Ew8b@hermit0.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <38tSBKA2bT$6Ew8b at hermit0.demon.co.uk>, Nick Medford writes >Thing is, I so hate what they later became, that I find it hard to completely >forget that even when listening to the early stuff. Disc 3 has this amazing live Supper's Ready from the Rainbow '73. After hearing that, and the Moonlit Knight from the same show, I found it *very* easy to forgive and indeed, ignore completely, their later shortcomings. They are simply a great band who finished in 1979. -- Jon From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 12 11:09:45 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 16:09:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree at Shepherd's Bush Empire Message-ID: Anyone else go to this? I know a number of boc-l'ers who were musing on the idea of going, don't know if anyone did. Got there rather late, caught the end of the support band's set (who were they?) which closed with a faithful-but-dull cover of "Comfortably Numb"- hardly an adventurous choice in this setting. Seemed like a long wait for PT, I must give a mention to the extremely minimalist hypnotic electro played through the PA - very effective, no idea what it was. Finally Wilson and co. take the stage, I won't attempt to list the whole set as much of it was unfamiliar to me, but overall impressions: the loud instrumental passages are always good and sometimes quite brilliant: the band play with tremendous power and- praise be!- manage to do this without sacrificing clarity of sound. Aside from SW's excellent, varied lead guitar work, I was particularly impressed by the bassist who really motored some of the trancier passages along, and whenever the band when into psychedelic freakout mode they showed great use of rhythm. I'm still unconvinced by the lighter side of PT's music: in particular, an "acoustic interlude" where they played "Pure Narcotic" and one other left me pretty cold. I dunno: with that sugar-coated, West Coast-style stuff, I can appreciate the skill and the way the songs are crafted, but it just does nothing for me. In addition, Wilson isn't quite the songwriter he perhaps imagines himself to be: after all, if you want to make it as a bard of angst, there's some pretty tough competition to live up to. His lyrics aren't _bad_ exactly, but feel predictable, rarely inspired. But the weaker moments were far outweighed by the good-to-great: a pounding "Up The Downstair" with irresistible rolling bassline, the extarordinary guitar meltdown of "Russia On Ice", and a blistering extended "Signify" were some of the highlights. Best of all was the remarkable rendition of "Voyage 34" - faster and rockier than the original and totally hypnotic. So a fine gig overall, apparently it was being recorded for a live album so expect that to be the next PT release. One thing that struck me was that they do inhabit a world closer to the mainstream than most other bands I would go and see. SW had a pop at boy-bands, Britney Spears et al by way of introducing "Hate Song", and while one couldn't argue with what he said, it struck me that one would never hear Dave Brock bothering to make such obvious observations: Hawkwind aren't even in the same cosmos as chart-fodder, it just wouldn't be relevant. Still the crowd (average age rather less than at a HW gig!) cheered anyway. Enough... hope that was of interest to some. -- Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 12 11:16:49 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 16:16:49 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Douglas Adams Dies In-Reply-To: <5p+VzDAPxS$6EwsT@comics.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: In message <5p+VzDAPxS$6EwsT at comics.demon.co.uk>, Jon Browne writes >In article <00f701c0dada$d5162d60$5bc13bcb at freeaqua>, Bill & Cynthia > writes >>Sadness Runs Deep. One of the finest authors of our time. He's off to the >>Restaurant at the End of the Universe. What a bad one. I met him once, he was a former pupil at my school and came back to give a talk shortly after "Hitch-Hiker" took off. Aside from the invention and wit of his writing, he was a relentlessly curious individual who absorbed a huge amount about computer tech, artificial intelligence, quantum theory and cutting-edge science in general. Had he lived I'm sure all this would have been the foundation for some really exciting projects. Very sad. -- Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 12 11:29:20 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 16:29:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Genesis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Jon Browne writes > >Disc 3 has this amazing live Supper's Ready from the Rainbow '73. Ah. OK. It's simple then- I have to buy it. > They are simply a great band who finished in 1979. Maybe even a little earlier, I reckon Steve Hackett's departure was the final nail in the coffin, though the corpse did twitch a bit- there's the odd half- decent track on Abacab for example, and the single "Mama" had a surprising sound- although I recall reading a review of it, in Sounds I think, which said simply "They thought about making an experimental record. They were pleased with the results. Somewhere up in the hills, the archangel Gabriel laughed". Which was probably about right. -- Nick Medford From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Sat May 12 12:42:36 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 17:42:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... Message-ID: Re; the Greek Hawklords' query: 1st pressing of Astounding Sounds was girl on front, eagle on back. 2nd pressing was eagle on front, girl on back - this was done in error. 2nd pressing much more numerous. The first 25,000 copies of the Hawklords album had "25 Years On" printed on them. So I would imagine those without are rarer. ----- Original Message ----- > > the greek hawklord needs some answers in these two questions.... > > > > 1- is it harder to find a "normal" original copy of astounding > sounds > > vinyl (charisma cds 4004 brown label) , you know, the one without > the > > reversed sleeve, than the mistyped front-back sleeve? > > > 2- i found 2 copies (ordered) of "25 years on" (charisma cds 4014 > > brown label, first pressings) the one having "hawklords" on spine > and > > the other "hawklords 25 years on" on spine..... > > me and my pal tossed coin and i got the very first one (full title > on > > spine). i know it is more rare but the retailer sold the 2 copies > equal (they > > were identical apart the spine lettering.... can you tell me how > rare is it to find "full lettered spine" copies? > > was i much much lucier than my friend? From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat May 12 13:16:28 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 18:16:28 +0100 Subject: OFF: Genesis Message-ID: To me, Genesis will only ever be with Steve Hackett on guitar. His writing and playing is totally inspired unlike some of the more cod prog-rock compositions of Tony Banks. Its no co-incidence the only track on Wind & Wuthering worth listening to is Blood on the Rooftops. Its interesting to listen to the early albums and pick out the bits Hackett obviously wrote - Dance of the Moonlit Knight has some of his trademark chord progressions for one. Hackett's first four solo albums also deserve a good listen - after all, has anybody ever done anything quite like Tiger Moth Chances before or since? How could they possibly consider reforming, albeit as a one off, without him? Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 4:29 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Genesis > In message , Jon Browne > writes > > > >Disc 3 has this amazing live Supper's Ready from the Rainbow '73. > > Ah. OK. It's simple then- I have to buy it. > > > They are simply a great band who finished in 1979. > > Maybe even a little earlier, I reckon Steve Hackett's departure was the final > nail in the coffin, though the corpse did twitch a bit- there's the odd half- > decent track on Abacab for example, and the single "Mama" had a > surprising sound- although I recall reading a review of it, in Sounds I think, > which said simply "They thought about making an experimental record. > They were pleased with the results. Somewhere up in the hills, the > archangel Gabriel laughed". Which was probably about right. > -- > Nick Medford From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat May 12 13:54:16 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 13:54:16 -0400 Subject: OFF: Genesis In-Reply-To: <001701c0db07$50248ac0$430c28d5@starfield> Message-ID: Captn. I agree with you wholeheartedly but have to nitpick on Wind and Wuthering... Unquiet for the sleepers... .. in this quiet earth Is written soley by Steve and it is the most amazing cut(s) on the vinyl. IMHO of course Mike :::-----Original Message----- :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :::Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck :::Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 1:16 PM :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :::Subject: Re: OFF: Genesis ::: ::: :::To me, Genesis will only ever be with Steve Hackett on guitar. :::His writing :::and playing is totally inspired unlike some of the more cod prog-rock :::compositions of Tony Banks. Its no co-incidence the only track on Wind & :::Wuthering worth listening to is Blood on the Rooftops. ::: :::Its interesting to listen to the early albums and pick out the :::bits Hackett :::obviously wrote - Dance of the Moonlit Knight has some of his trademark :::chord progressions for one. ::: :::Hackett's first four solo albums also deserve a good listen - :::after all, :::has anybody ever done anything quite like Tiger Moth Chances before or :::since? ::: :::How could they possibly consider reforming, albeit as a one off, without :::him? ::: :::Captain Bl at ck. ::: ::: ::: ::: :::----- Original Message ----- :::From: Nick Medford :::To: :::Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 4:29 PM :::Subject: Re: OFF: Genesis ::: ::: :::> In message , Jon Browne :::> writes :::> > :::> >Disc 3 has this amazing live Supper's Ready from the Rainbow '73. :::> :::> Ah. OK. It's simple then- I have to buy it. :::> :::> > They are simply a great band who finished in 1979. :::> :::> Maybe even a little earlier, I reckon Steve Hackett's departure was the :::final :::> nail in the coffin, though the corpse did twitch a bit- there's the odd :::half- :::> decent track on Abacab for example, and the single "Mama" had a :::> surprising sound- although I recall reading a review of it, in Sounds I :::think, :::> which said simply "They thought about making an experimental record. :::> They were pleased with the results. Somewhere up in the hills, the :::> archangel Gabriel laughed". Which was probably about right. :::> -- :::> Nick Medford ::: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 12 14:18:49 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 19:18:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: Genesis In-Reply-To: <001701c0db07$50248ac0$430c28d5@starfield> Message-ID: In message <001701c0db07$50248ac0$430c28d5 at starfield>, Captain Bl at ck writes >To me, Genesis will only ever be with Steve Hackett on guitar. His writing >and playing is totally inspired unlike some of the more cod prog-rock >compositions of Tony Banks. Its no co-incidence the only track on Wind & >Wuthering worth listening to is Blood on the Rooftops. > >Its interesting to listen to the early albums and pick out the bits Hackett >obviously wrote - Dance of the Moonlit Knight has some of his trademark >chord progressions for one. He's often been quoted as saying that "Selling England" was his favourite Genesis album. The track "After The Ordeal" has some of his most haunting guitar work. > >Hackett's first four solo albums also deserve a good listen I'll always have a soft spot for Steve Hackett- first gig I ever attended was Hackett and backing band (including Ian Moseley, who was mentioned in the drummers thread), Southend circa 1983. His earlier solo albums are intriguing - some majestic playing and some truly remarkable eccentricity: > - after all, >has anybody ever done anything quite like Tiger Moth Chances before or >since? or "Carry On Up The Vicarage" and "Sentimental Institution" for that matter... Fifth album "Cured" was mostly dreadful, but there's some excellent stuff on the later "Till We Have Faces". Completely lost touch with whatever he was up to after that- I know he was in some bloody awful AOR/prog-hasbeen supergroup for a while, and he's done an album of dodgy Genesis remakes... so perhaps I don't really need to know any more than that... > >How could they possibly consider reforming, albeit as a one off, without >him? Well in the recent Mojo retrospective on the band, he says he would only participate if they let him black up and play harmonica! Which would seem to be a roundabout way of saying he's not interested. -- Nick Medford From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat May 12 14:36:13 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 19:36:13 +0100 Subject: OFF: Genesis Message-ID: Agree with your comments Nick. I would guess that he would play if he was asked - he's spent a lot of time cashing in on the 'ex-Genesis guitarist' tag. And he did re-do some of his solos for the Archive 1 set - most alarmingly, on The Lamia, where the sound jars a little with the vintage acoustics on the rest of the track. Apparently, he says he only found out about the project by chance while speaking to Peter Gabriel - I guess Banks and co didn't really want him involved, if they do regard him as a troublemaker. One would imagine the Genesis Revisited project didn't go down to well in the home camp. Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 7:18 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Genesis > In message <001701c0db07$50248ac0$430c28d5 at starfield>, Captain Bl at ck > writes > >To me, Genesis will only ever be with Steve Hackett on guitar. His writing > >and playing is totally inspired unlike some of the more cod prog-rock > >compositions of Tony Banks. Its no co-incidence the only track on Wind & > >Wuthering worth listening to is Blood on the Rooftops. > > > > >Its interesting to listen to the early albums and pick out the bits Hackett > >obviously wrote - Dance of the Moonlit Knight has some of his trademark > >chord progressions for one. > > He's often been quoted as saying that "Selling England" was his favourite > Genesis album. The track "After The Ordeal" has some of his most haunting > guitar work. > > > >Hackett's first four solo albums also deserve a good listen > > I'll always have a soft spot for Steve Hackett- first gig I ever attended was > Hackett and backing band (including Ian Moseley, who was mentioned in > the drummers thread), Southend circa 1983. His earlier solo albums are > intriguing - some majestic playing and some truly remarkable eccentricity: > > > - after all, > >has anybody ever done anything quite like Tiger Moth Chances before or > >since? > > or "Carry On Up The Vicarage" and "Sentimental Institution" for that > matter... > > Fifth album "Cured" was mostly dreadful, but there's some excellent stuff on > the later "Till We Have Faces". Completely lost touch with whatever he was > up to after that- I know he was in some bloody awful AOR/prog-hasbeen > supergroup for a while, and he's done an album of dodgy Genesis remakes... > so perhaps I don't really need to know any more than that... > > > > >How could they possibly consider reforming, albeit as a one off, without > >him? > > Well in the recent Mojo retrospective on the band, he says he would only > participate if they let him black up and play harmonica! Which would seem > to be a roundabout way of saying he's not interested. > -- > Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 12 14:36:38 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 19:36:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: PKD Message-ID: Following recent discussions on Philip K Dick: http://www.linguafranca.com/print/0105/cover.html -- Nick Medford From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Sat May 12 14:37:49 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 19:37:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: Genesis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Nick Medford writes >In message <001701c0db07$50248ac0$430c28d5 at starfield>, Captain Bl at ck > writes >>To me, Genesis will only ever be with Steve Hackett on guitar. His writing >>and playing is totally inspired unlike some of the more cod prog-rock >>compositions of Tony Banks. Its no co-incidence the only track on Wind & >>Wuthering worth listening to is Blood on the Rooftops. At least on that album although Gabriel had gone, they still sounded like Genesis. After Hackett left, they became Phil Collins backing band. >>Its interesting to listen to the early albums and pick out the bits Hackett >>obviously wrote - Dance of the Moonlit Knight has some of his trademark >>chord progressions for one. > >He's often been quoted as saying that "Selling England" was his favourite >Genesis album. The track "After The Ordeal" has some of his most haunting >guitar work. >> >>Hackett's first four solo albums also deserve a good listen > >I'll always have a soft spot for Steve Hackett- first gig I ever attended was >Hackett and backing band (including Ian Moseley, who was mentioned in >the drummers thread), Southend circa 1983. His earlier solo albums are >intriguing - some majestic playing and some truly remarkable eccentricity: > >> - after all, >>has anybody ever done anything quite like Tiger Moth Chances before or >>since? > >or "Carry On Up The Vicarage" and "Sentimental Institution" for that >matter... > >Fifth album "Cured" was mostly dreadful, IMO 'a cradle of swans' is fantastic, 'overnight sleeper' is good. Says something about the rest of it that I those are the only 2 I ever play off that one. >but there's some excellent stuff on >the later "Till We Have Faces". Completely lost touch with whatever he was >up to after that- I know he was in some bloody awful AOR/prog-hasbeen >supergroup for a while, GTR, with Steve Howe > and he's done an album of dodgy Genesis remakes... >so perhaps I don't really need to know any more than that... I think some of his later albums are excellent, especially Darktown and Guitar Noir - and the almost solo classical live one, 'there are many sides to the night'. I can't think of a better word to describe his playing on them than beautiful. >>How could they possibly consider reforming, albeit as a one off, without >>him? > >Well in the recent Mojo retrospective on the band, he says he would only >participate if they let him black up and play harmonica! Which would seem >to be a roundabout way of saying he's not interested. Add to that the part of the Top 10 of prog rock that covered Genesis not only didn't feature him, he didn't even get mentioned at all. -- David Blair From rdc at NTLWORLD.COM Sat May 12 15:48:41 2001 From: rdc at NTLWORLD.COM (Richard Crossley) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 20:48:41 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Douglas Adams Dies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Perhaps somebody will remember Robert Sheckly now... [sic] > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Nick Medford > Sent: 12 May 2001 16:17 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: (OFF) Douglas Adams Dies > > > In message <5p+VzDAPxS$6EwsT at comics.demon.co.uk>, Jon Browne > writes > >In article <00f701c0dada$d5162d60$5bc13bcb at freeaqua>, Bill & Cynthia > > writes > >>Sadness Runs Deep. One of the finest authors of our time. He's > off to the > >>Restaurant at the End of the Universe. > > What a bad one. I met him once, he was a former pupil at my school and > came back to give a talk shortly after "Hitch-Hiker" took off. > Aside from the > invention and wit of his writing, he was a relentlessly curious > individual who > absorbed a huge amount about computer tech, artificial intelligence, > quantum theory and cutting-edge science in general. Had he lived I'm sure > all this would have been the foundation for some really exciting projects. > Very sad. > -- > Nick Medford > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Sat May 12 16:44:46 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 16:44:46 -0400 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... Message-ID: On Sat, 12 May 2001 14:05:30 +0100, Jill Strobridge wrote: >I don't think a "normal" copy exists does it? As far as I know >the sleeve was deliberately done with the eagle and tracklisting on >front and girl on the back. Just to be different. I could be >misremembering here but doesn't Brian Tawn mention this somewhere in >one of his publications? My copy of ASAM is CDS4004, brown label, girl on front, eagle on back. >The vinyl inside is not quite identical. Interestingly I went >record shopping in London after the Astoria gig and found a >Hawklords vinyl album which I bought as a spare copy. I hadn't >checked the spine lettering until just now. The album I bought >reads 'Hawklords 25 years On'. The album I already had (together >with the booklet, although I think this was actually sold separately >for the tour) reads 'Hawklords'. If however you check the album >itself and look at the numbers in the run off groove 'Hawklords 25 >Years On' sleeve album has A#1 and B#1 printed on the relevant >sides. The 'Hawklords' sleeve album has A#2 and B#2 printed on >the relevant sides. I therefore conclude that the sleeve >labelled "Hawlords 25 Years On" contains a first pressing and the >"Hawklords" sleeve contains a re-issue. >Quod erat demonstrandum (as it were). Curiouser and curiouser. My copy is CDS4014, brown label, 'Hawklords' spine, and the runoff grooves are A#2 and B#1! (Jill, you might want to double-check your B side?) And I'll add a question - was 'PXR5' ever released with a brown label? Or did Charisma switch labels between 'Hawklords/25 Years On' and 'PXR5'? My Copy is CDS4016, miswired plug without sticker (which, to the best of my knowledge, makes it an "original" copy), blue label (which might make it a second pressing?). And, just to make sure that the entire Charisma catalog is covered, I'll mention that a friend of mine was psyched last week to find a mint vinyl copy of 'Quark, Strangeness & Charm' for only US$7, but it was the early- 80's repressing (CHC ... catalog number IIRC, no printed inner sleeve). This thread should either make Mike Coleman very happy or very frustrated (the latter only if he's missing any of these variations!), -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat May 12 19:59:57 2001 From: buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM (Rus Hall) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 19:59:57 -0400 Subject: BOC: Toad's Place Set List Message-ID: E.T.I. Dance on Stilts Harvester of Eyes Burning for You Subhuman In Thee Cities on Flame Flaming Telepaths Unknown Tongue Pocket Buck's Boogie (6:26) Take Me Away Last Days of May Godzilla Reaper They went on late (12:15) so there was no time for an encore (off 1:56) The opening acts went a bit long. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat May 12 22:10:48 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 20:10:48 -0600 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... In-Reply-To: <200105122044.QAA24663@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Dear lord Pearson.... The Pxr5 LP also exists in myriad forms, includind weird sh*t like a copy with the sticker stuck in the wrong place!!!!!!!! at the bottom on one of my copies.....and you will know that it doesn't remove without noticeable damage,,,,,, also....the blue label pressing is rarer from my experience, and as usual, I "imagine" it to be a "second press"..... peace.... and for all who care ...I am Ill, I'll apologize profusely to those of you waiting for stuff, and hopefully work out a peace treatise with you.... sick... sick mike c From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun May 13 02:06:10 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 15:36:10 +0930 Subject: Off - on a tangent - not related to anything on this topic Message-ID: Remember yo Mommas people - is Mothers day - at least it is here in Oztralia From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun May 13 07:11:29 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:11:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind - Rock and Blues Show at Donnington Message-ID: UFO tour cancelled, punch-ups on stage. Hey rock 'n' roll! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jill Strobridge To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 09 May 2001 22:56 Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind - Rock and Blues Show at Donnington >Why? What happened? >jill >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Jill Strobridge >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- Original Message ----- >From: david hall >To: >Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind - Rock and Blues Show at Donnington > > >> Michael Schenker and Phil Mogg on the same stage? After the recent >fiasco? >> Dave > >------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jill Strobridge >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >> Date: 09 May 2001 22:30 >> Subject: HW: Hawkwind - Rock and Blues Show at Donnington >> >> >> >Just in case anyone else has been trying the link on the Hawkwind >> >web page to get info about this and keeps getting the message >"this >> >page cannot be found". If you take out all the preceding >address >> >and simply leave www.rockandblues.uk.com this will give you >access >> >to the appropriate page. Quite an impressive lineup there is >too! >> > >> >jill >> >----------------------------------------------------------------- >> >Jill Strobridge >> >----------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun May 13 14:28:59 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 14:28:59 EDT Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] astounding questions.... Message-ID: Just got back from camping in the mountains, and weighing in on this one, I'm probably dozens of mails late on this, but I own both versions on vinyl. Each version has the covers reversed. bob In a message dated 5/12/01 6:09:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 1:00 PM > Subject: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... > > > > aloha space cadets.... > > > > the greek hawklord needs some answers in these two questions.... > > > > 1- is it harder to find a "normal" original copy of astounding > sounds > > vinyl (charisma cds 4004 brown label) , you know, the one without > the > > reversed sleeve, than the mistyped front-back sleeve? > > i have the eagle in front and girl in back, ind i found it same > circa > > 5 times or so.... (please mention the first pressings only, i.e > > brown charisma labels, and not represses) and i never found a > "normal > > copy....(girl front-eagle back) > > I don't think a "normal" copy exists does it? As far as I know > the sleeve was deliberately done with the eagle and tracklisting on > front and girl on the back. Just to be different. I could be > misremembering here but doesn't Brian Tawn mention this somewhere in > one of his publications? Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sun May 13 17:19:09 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 17:19:09 EDT Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... Message-ID: In a message dated 5/12/01 8:11:10 PM US Eastern Standard Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > and for all who care ...I am Ill, I'll apologize profusely to those of you > waiting for stuff, and hopefully work out a peace treatise with you.... > > I'm not waiting for stuff (well, from you, anyhow), but get well first, then worry 'bout all the other stuff! They'll wait, right gang? From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun May 13 17:44:47 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 22:44:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... Message-ID: Absolutely, You concentrate on getting well Mike; nothing else matters! COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Loehr" To: Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 10:19 PM Subject: Re: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... > In a message dated 5/12/01 8:11:10 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > > > > and for all who care ...I am Ill, I'll apologize profusely to those of you > > waiting for stuff, and hopefully work out a peace treatise with you.... > > > > > > I'm not waiting for stuff (well, from you, anyhow), but get well first, then > worry 'bout all the other stuff! > > They'll wait, right gang? > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun May 13 18:22:46 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 23:22:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Pearson Subject: Re: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... > >Quod erat demonstrandum (as it were). > > Curiouser and curiouser. My copy is CDS4014, brown label, 'Hawklords' > spine, and the runoff grooves are A#2 and B#1! (Jill, you might want to > double-check your B side?) Definitely A2 B2 (sounds like a small well-known science fiction robot doesn't it!) Actually reading mike c's informative posting (THANKS MIKE! and I hope you get well soon) I have this scarey notion that you could almost make a 'Coded Languages' type song out of this lot 8-) cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon May 14 02:10:38 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 07:10:38 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Douglas Adams Dies Message-ID: I wondered why my Babel Fish was playing up all weekend.... I'm very sad now. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Si Halley [mailto:sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK] Sent: 12 May 2001 12:51 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: (OFF) Douglas Adams Dies Sad news from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1326000/1326657.stm Author Douglas Adams, who wrote The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, has died suddenly aged 49. Mr Adams died on Friday morning in Santa Barbara, California, following a heart attack, said his spokeswoman Sophie Astin. Adams's novel was turned into a BBC series The author became a household name when the cult science fiction novel was turned into a BBC TV series. Adams was born in Cambridge in 1952 and educated in Essex before returning to Cambridge to study at St John's College. His career included work as a radio and television writer and producer before his life was changed by the publication of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in 1979. Film The satirical tale chronicled the journey of alien Ford Prefect and his human companion Arthur Dent throughout the universe after the destruction of Earth. It centred around the search for an answer to life, the universe, and everything - which turned out to be 42. Arthur Dent and Slartibartfast became cult figures The novel went on to sell more than 14 million copies worldwide and was followed by the sequels The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, Life, the Universe and Everything and So Long and Thanks For All the Fish. In recent years the author had been working on a Hitchhiker's Guide movie. There was much speculation about who would play Arthur Dent, with Hugh Laurie, Rowan Atkinson, Jim Carrey, Ben Affleck and even Bruce Willis said to be in the running. Adams married Jane Belson in 1991 and had a daughter, Polly, in 1994. *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Mon May 14 03:56:55 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:56:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: MP3/CD Portable Message-ID: With my mouth full of crumbs I expostulated: > I considered one of these, but in the end bought an ordinary portable CD > player (cheaper). My theory was that CDRs are cheap and small, so carrying > your music round as audio CDRs was almost as convenient as MP3 CDRs,and a > bit easier to burn. So I lug a small pile of audio CDRs made from my (legit > bought) HW&others collection and from the mp3s I've picked up here and > there, and can play them anywhere. and Jerry Guizar wrote: > The biggest plus for me was being able to carry 6 - 8 hours of music on >one mp3 CDR (I rip as VBR ~200kbit). My argument is that the CDRs are a negligible weight or bulk compared to the player itself Cheers, Mark From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 14 04:21:31 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 04:21:31 -0400 Subject: HW: Voiceprint CD Message-ID: Well, my free CD arrived from Voiceprint this morning and, guess what, it IS the mis-pressed Spacebrock which I already have! As this mispressing happened after the anouncement of the "free CD", one wonders what the original freebie was meant to be. Does this strike anyone else as a cynical move to shift some dodgy CDs? I do hope that no-one from the band was involved in this decision as it is really cheap IMHO! COLIN (A fan for 25 years, whcih don't seem to matter any more!) From coral at APORT.RU Mon May 14 05:50:43 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:50:43 +0400 Subject: Business Trip Message-ID: Hello! I have some question about this recording. What was the base show for it? Is it Koln Music Hall of 12.02.93? cheers, Alice From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Mon May 14 06:06:20 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:06:20 +0200 Subject: HW: Re: Business Trip In-Reply-To: <000b01c0dc5b$585257e0$5e03efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: Hi Alissa, >I have some question about this recording. >What was the base show for it? Is it Koln Music Hall of 12.02.93? Nope. The Business Trip was recorded at Hastings Pier Pavillion on Nov 27th 1993 AFAIK. (c)IAO D+R np: Gong "You-Re-Mixed" From m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK Mon May 14 07:17:40 2001 From: m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK (Merrick Martin French) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:17:40 +0100 Subject: Lounge AX Message-ID: Thanks geoff, The cd is great. it's in the post to Peter Wibrew. To all, Any news on the astoria total rock cd ??? it seems to be lost !! Merrick French From chrisr at TIAC.NET Mon May 14 08:04:42 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:04:42 -0400 Subject: Astoria Message-ID: This weekend I saw the Astoria Cdr on ebay. I wrote to the bidder and let him that it was recently being distributed for free on the list. I did not contact the seller. Chris From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon May 14 11:46:58 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:46:58 -0500 Subject: HW: posters Message-ID: Hey folks, I was chatting with a friend of mine who is in London at the moment. He reported to me that he found a shop with bunches of HW posters. I asked him for the address, he replies: There are plenty of 'em. From 20-odd pounds to over 100... The Soho Music Company 12 Berwick Street London W1F 0PN 020 7437 4799 (just an fyi, in case anyone didn't know about them yet.) Arin (currently in moving panic. sigh.) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon May 14 12:17:52 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:17:52 -0000 Subject: NEW ICU/ JUDGE TREV/NIK TURNER CDs Message-ID: Hi everyone, Thought you might be interested: NEW ICU/ JUDGE TREV/NIK TURNER CD?s AVAILABLE >From realfestivalmusic.co.uk our new website. Formerly ?Judgement Records? JUDGEMENT AND THUNDER 2 Inner City Unit/Imperial Pompadours More hits from Judge Trev and Nik Turner including the highly illegal ?Insolence across the Nation? REVOLUTION AND REBELLION Inner City Unit/Atomgods The revolutionary works of Judge trev ? masterpiece! Also ?Now You Know the Score? Judge Trevs ICU 1997 ?7.99 each + postage Send check, PO, IMO to: Real Festival Music 34a Upper Lewes Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN23FH UK Postage 1 CD UK 44p Europe 96p Rest of World ?1.32p 2 CDs UK 66p Europe ?1.50p Rest of World ?2.30p 3 CDs UK 87p Europe ?2.00p Rest of World ?3.00p Ron Tree, Judge Trev, Dino Ferari, and Trips are appearing with their new band ?VAGINA? at the Hamburg hawkfest 23 June ? other gigs to be announced. Coming soon? ?GOD AND MAN? new major album from Judge Trev, Featuring Nik Turner, Harvey Bainbridge, Ron Tree, Dino Ferari _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon May 14 12:52:37 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:52:37 EDT Subject: OFF: GANJA:Medical Marijuana, Supreme Court ruling -_- Message-ID: Supreme Court Rules Medical Marijuana Is Illegal By LARRY MARGASAK .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (May 14) - The Supreme Court handed medical marijuana users a major defeat Monday, ruling that a federal law classifying the drug as illegal has no exception for ill patients. The 8-0 decision was a major disappointment to many sufferers of AIDS, cancer, multiple sclerosis and other illnesses. They have said the drug helped enormously in combatting the devastating effects of their diseases. In other action the court: Received a request from lawyers for Terry Nichols, convicted in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people, asking the justices to reconsider his appeal in light of the FBI's failure to give defense lawyers thousands of documents. Overturned former baseball player Steve Garvey's $3 million labor settlement Monday, ruling 8-1 that a lower court usurped the role of an outside arbitrator by awarding Garvey the money. Agreed to decide if police may prosecute new crimes with evidence seized from homes of criminals who consented to blanket searches as a condition of pro bation. Justice Stephen Breyer did not participate in the marijuana decision because his brother, a federal judge, initially presided over the case. ``In the case of the Controlled Substances Act, the statute reflects a determination that marijuana has no medical benefits worthy of an exception (outside the confines of a government-approved research project),'' Justice Clarence Thomas wrote for the unanimous court. Thomas noted the act states marijuana has ``no currently accepted medical use.'' The federal government triggered the case in 1998, seeking an injunction against the Oakland Cannabis Buyers Cooperative and five other marijuana distributors. U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer, brother of the justice, sided with the government. All the clubs except the Oakland group eventually closed down, and the Oakland club turned to registering potential marijuana recipients while it awaited a final ruling. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals reversed the lower court, ruling that medical necessity is a legal defense. Charles Breyer followed up by issuing strict guidelines for making that claim. Voters in Arizona, Alaska, California, Colorado, Maine, Nevada, Oregon and Washington also have approved ballot initiatives allowing the use of medical marijuana. In Hawaii, the legislature passed a similar law and the governor signed it last year. The cooperative argued that a drug may not yet have achieved general acceptance as a medical treatment, but may still have medical benefits to a particular patient or class of patients. Thomas said the argument cannot overcome the intent of Congress in approving the statute. ``It is clear from the text of the act that Congress has made a determination that marijuana has no medical benefits worthy of an exception,'' Thomas wrote. ``Unwilling to view this omission as an accident, and unable in any event to override a legislative determination manifest in a statute, we reject the cooperative's argument.'' Advocates of medical marijuana say the drug can ease side effects from chemotherapy, save nauseated AIDS patients from wasting away or even allow multiple sclerosis sufferers to rise from a wheelchair and walk. There is no definitive science that the drug works, or works better than conventional, legal alternatives. Several states are considering medical marijuana laws, and Congress may revisit the issue this year. A measure to counteract laws like California's died in the House last year. Thomas was joined by Chief Justice William Rehnquist, Sandra Day O'Connor, Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy. Justice John Paul Stevens wrote a concurring opinion, joined by Justices David Souter and Ruth Bader Ginsburg. The case is United States v. Oakland Cannabis Buyers Cooperative, 00-151. ========= Virtual Marijuana Dealer "<>" From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon May 14 14:36:46 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:36:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Voiceprint CD Message-ID: far be it from me to defend Voiceprint on this matter, and I'm not really, but I figure that seeing as how they sold so few of the mis-pressed one, they are figuring that so few people will have it already that the majority will be happy to see it. However, I am of the opinion that some 'dodgy mis-pressing, altho' technically 'collectors item' status (to a degree) is hardly a bona-fide freebie from what appears to be the main label for all things Hawkwind, these days, especially, when, as you say, they must surely have had something else on the table before this arrived, altho knowing them, that may not actually be the case - I could imagine them 'waiting to see what dropped out of the skies', but count your blessings it wasn't some even dodgier compilation, perhaps. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: HW: Voiceprint CD > Well, my free CD arrived from Voiceprint this morning and, guess what, it > IS the mis-pressed Spacebrock which I already have! As this mispressing > happened after the anouncement of the "free CD", one wonders what the > original freebie was meant to be. > > Does this strike anyone else as a cynical move to shift some dodgy CDs? I > do hope that no-one from the band was involved in this decision as it is > really cheap IMHO! > > COLIN (A fan for 25 years, whcih don't seem to matter any more!) From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Mon May 14 14:49:42 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:49:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... Message-ID: Surely the coda to "Robot"... ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Strobridge To: Sent: 13 May 2001 23:22 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... > Actually reading mike c's informative posting (THANKS MIKE! and I > hope you get well soon) I have this scarey notion that you could > almost make a 'Coded Languages' type song out of this lot > > From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon May 14 16:44:16 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:44:16 EDT Subject: HW: Voiceprint CD Message-ID: Colin, it may be cheap, but it's likely you got stuck with a fairly rare collectible, guarenteed to fetch insane prices from insane collectors... bob In a message dated 5/14/01 4:22:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > Well, my free CD arrived from Voiceprint this morning and, guess what, it > IS the mis-pressed Spacebrock which I already have! As this mispressing > happened after the anouncement of the "free CD", one wonders what the > original freebie was meant to be. > > Does this strike anyone else as a cynical move to shift some dodgy CDs? I > do hope that no-one from the band was involved in this decision as it is > really cheap IMHO! > > COLIN (A fan for 25 years, whcih don't seem to matter any more!) > From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 14 17:03:28 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:03:28 +0100 Subject: HW: Voiceprint CD Message-ID: True enough but the blurb on the back of the "new" cd makes it sound like Manna from Heaven! COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" To: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 7:36 PM Subject: Re: HW: Voiceprint CD > far be it from me to defend Voiceprint on this matter, and I'm not really, > but I figure that seeing as how they sold so few of the mis-pressed one, > they are figuring that so few people will have it already that the majority > will be happy to see it. > However, I am of the opinion that some 'dodgy mis-pressing, altho' > technically 'collectors item' status (to a degree) is hardly a bona-fide > freebie from what appears to be the main label for all things Hawkwind, > these days, especially, when, as you say, they must surely have had > something else on the table before this arrived, altho knowing them, that > may not actually be the case - I could imagine them 'waiting to see what > dropped out of the skies', but count your blessings it wasn't some even > dodgier compilation, perhaps. > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Allen" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 9:21 AM > Subject: HW: Voiceprint CD > > > > Well, my free CD arrived from Voiceprint this morning and, guess what, it > > IS the mis-pressed Spacebrock which I already have! As this mispressing > > happened after the anouncement of the "free CD", one wonders what the > > original freebie was meant to be. > > > > Does this strike anyone else as a cynical move to shift some dodgy CDs? I > > do hope that no-one from the band was involved in this decision as it is > > really cheap IMHO! > > > > COLIN (A fan for 25 years, whcih don't seem to matter any more!) > From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Mon May 14 19:19:00 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 18:19:00 -0500 Subject: HW: posters Message-ID: Awww.... a terrible shame.... I'm interested in acquiring Hawkwind posters, but live in the USA so I can't just pop into this shop and browse! If anyone has perhaps seen what they have, a brief summary of their stock of HW posters would be much appreciated.... John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Hey folks, > > I was chatting with a friend of mine who is in London at the moment. > > He reported to me that he found a shop with bunches of HW posters. I > asked him for the address, he replies: > > There are plenty of 'em. From 20-odd pounds to over 100... > > The Soho Music Company > 12 Berwick Street > London W1F 0PN > 020 7437 4799 > > (just an fyi, in case anyone didn't know about them yet.) > > Arin > (currently in moving panic. sigh.) > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon May 14 20:13:19 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 01:13:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Voiceprint CD Message-ID: no surprises there then............ never far from the realms of fantasy, some labels!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 10:03 PM Subject: Re: HW: Voiceprint CD > True enough but the blurb on the back of the "new" cd makes it sound like > Manna from Heaven! > > COLIN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 7:36 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Voiceprint CD > > > > far be it from me to defend Voiceprint on this matter, and I'm not really, > > but I figure that seeing as how they sold so few of the mis-pressed one, > > they are figuring that so few people will have it already that the > majority > > will be happy to see it. > > However, I am of the opinion that some 'dodgy mis-pressing, altho' > > technically 'collectors item' status (to a degree) is hardly a bona-fide > > freebie from what appears to be the main label for all things Hawkwind, > > these days, especially, when, as you say, they must surely have had > > something else on the table before this arrived, altho knowing them, that > > may not actually be the case - I could imagine them 'waiting to see what > > dropped out of the skies', but count your blessings it wasn't some even > > dodgier compilation, perhaps. > > Andy Garibaldi > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colin Allen" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 9:21 AM > > Subject: HW: Voiceprint CD > > > > > > > Well, my free CD arrived from Voiceprint this morning and, guess what, > it > > > IS the mis-pressed Spacebrock which I already have! As this mispressing > > > happened after the anouncement of the "free CD", one wonders what the > > > original freebie was meant to be. > > > > > > Does this strike anyone else as a cynical move to shift some dodgy CDs? > I > > > do hope that no-one from the band was involved in this decision as it is > > > really cheap IMHO! > > > > > > COLIN (A fan for 25 years, whcih don't seem to matter any more!) > > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 14 20:43:06 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 01:43:06 +0100 Subject: HW; Spacebrock - the return Message-ID: I think that I may be the last on the list to have got this but I'll chip in anyway. Excellent stuff - much better than Distant Horizons and In Your Area. Okay, there is some familiar stuff on it. The new stuff is excellent. However, sometimes there is a lack of "flow" - maybe due to the order of the tracks. I'd just love to see Dave putting out a ambient cd - some of his stuff is in the same field as Pete Namlock - whilst keeping the Space ROCK motors running in Hawkwind. Dave From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 14 21:06:42 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 02:06:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Cynthia Size A Message-ID: Ambient textures or Bleep 'n' Booster beeps, ELP-ish ear injury or Kraftwerkian constructions??? That is the question! I've always wondered what a Kraftwerk version of Damnation Alley would sound like (a hybrid of Autobahn and Motorway City). Or some of the early-ish Tangerine Dream sounds on say, Warrior. Synths are wonderful things - unfortunately they can also be the (Moog) source of the 70's Moog solo, or extended Prog noodling, or worse - let's spend ages trying to make it sound like a cello, or a violin, or a trumpet - go down that road and it will just end up sounding turgid. Look what happened to Tangerine Dream and Ashra. Dave From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon May 14 20:46:01 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 00:46:01 -0000 Subject: NEW WEBSITE/NEW NIK and JUDGE CD's Message-ID: Hiya, You can see pics, track listing, and info about these on realfestivalmusic.co.uk our new website - RFM You can get them with credit card (in dollars), or mail order, from the RFM site. > >JUDGEMENT AND THUNDER 2 Inner City Unit/Imperial Pompadours >More hits from Judge Trev and Nik Turner including the highly illegal >?Insolence across the Nation? > > > >REVOLUTION AND REBELLION Inner City Unit/Atomgods >The revolutionary works of Judge trev ? masterpiece (cough) > > >Also ?Now You Know the Score? Judge Trevs ICU 1997 (still got some >left) > > >?7.99 ($11.50) each + postage >Send check, PO, IMO to: >Real Festival Music >34a Upper Lewes Road, >Brighton, >East Sussex, >BN23FH >UK > >Postage 1 CD UK 44p Europe 96p Rest of World ?1.32p > 2 CDs UK 66p Europe ?1.50p Rest of World ?2.30p > 3 CDs UK 87p Europe ?2.00p Rest of World ?3.00p > > >Ron Tree, Judge Trev, Dino Ferari, and Trips are appearing with their new >ICU/HAWK alliance band ?VAGINA? at the Hamburg hawkfest 23 June ? other >gigs to be announced. > >Coming soon? ?GOD AND MAN? new major album from Judge Trev, >Featuring Nik Turner, Harvey Bainbridge, Ron Tree, Dino Ferari > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon May 14 23:39:10 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:09:10 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind - Thank you to the great ANDY G Message-ID: Just recieved the Hawkwind Collector series Volume 2 - Live 1982. Listening to it now - very cool live recording - loving it!! Thanks Andy G!! Mb From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Tue May 15 02:33:08 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:33:08 +0100 Subject: OT: Eat The Rich Message-ID: Does anyone happen to have a copy of the Comic Strip Eat The Rich video? It appears as if it's been deleted (not that surprising given that it's ~10 years old), but I'd really like to get my hands on it again. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Tue May 15 04:02:30 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:02:30 +0100 Subject: HW: MM & Deep Fix. Message-ID: Can anyone tell me the other official Michael Moorcock releases besides New Worlds Fair which I've got? Thanks Rob. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue May 15 04:53:39 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 03:53:39 -0500 Subject: MM & Deep Fix. Message-ID: There is Elric-live at the BBC,Brothel in Rosenstrausse, and Concerts and rehearsals. If you want to go in depth on these email me privately. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: rob burton [mailto:rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:02 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: MM & Deep Fix. Can anyone tell me the other official Michael Moorcock releases besides New Worlds Fair which I've got? Thanks Rob. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 15 08:27:46 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:27:46 +0100 Subject: OFF: GANJA:Medical Marijuana, Supreme Court ruling -_- In-Reply-To: DASLUD@AOL.COM's message of Mon, 14 May 2001 12:52:37 EDT Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > > WASHINGTON (May 14) - The Supreme Court handed medical marijuana users a > major defeat Monday, ruling that a federal law classifying the drug as > illegal has no exception for ill patients. > > The 8-0 decision was a major disappointment to many sufferers of AIDS, > cancer, multiple sclerosis and other illnesses. They have said the drug > helped enormously in combatting the devastating effects of their diseases. <...> > > Voters in Arizona, Alaska, California, Colorado, Maine, Nevada, Oregon and > Washington also have approved ballot initiatives allowing the use of medical > marijuana. In Hawaii, the legislature passed a similar law and the governor > signed it last year. You guys really need to get over Prohibition. The joke has gone way too far and it's infected the rest of us. You got rid of alcohol Prohibition by a convocation of States. If there are enough states willing to medicalise marijuana then maybe getting the 2/3 of states needed to overrule the feds is the way to go. It's not like you;re short of lawyers or anything. FoFP From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue May 15 09:04:53 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:04:53 EDT Subject: OFF: GANJA:Medical Marijuana, Supreme Court ruling -_- Message-ID: In a message dated 5/15/01 8:28:26 AM, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: << You guys really need to get over Prohibition. The joke has gone way too far and it's infected the rest of us. You got rid of alcohol Prohibition by a convocation of States. If there are enough states willing to medicalise marijuana then maybe getting the 2/3 of states needed to overrule the feds is the way to go. It's not like you're short of lawyers or anything. >> ======= personally, i've been waiting for the 'reefer madness' types to die off. ...so=many=things=one=could=do=with=that=plant!! aside from 'catch a buzz'.... =koff= "<>" From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue May 15 10:15:58 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:15:58 GMT Subject: BOC: A view of the band and its producers from Lester Bangs Message-ID: ..can be found in the article "The New Prefab Nihilism" at http://thedictators.com/penthouse.html --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Tue May 15 10:24:14 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:24:14 -0500 Subject: OFF: GANJA:Medical Marijuana, Supreme Court ruling -_- Message-ID: You know, for all practical purposes, Marijuana is already legal as a medicinal.... pure THC is available in pill form under the name Marinol. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > > > > > WASHINGTON (May 14) - The Supreme Court handed medical marijuana users a > > major defeat Monday, ruling that a federal law classifying the drug as > > illegal has no exception for ill patients. > > > > The 8-0 decision was a major disappointment to many sufferers of AIDS, > > cancer, multiple sclerosis and other illnesses. They have said the drug > > helped enormously in combatting the devastating effects of their diseases. > > <...> > > > > Voters in Arizona, Alaska, California, Colorado, Maine, Nevada, Oregon and > > Washington also have approved ballot initiatives allowing the use of medical > > marijuana. In Hawaii, the legislature passed a similar law and the governor > > signed it last year. > > You guys really need to get over Prohibition. The joke has gone way too > far and it's infected the rest of us. > > You got rid of alcohol Prohibition by a convocation of States. If there > are enough states willing to medicalise marijuana then maybe getting the > 2/3 of states needed to overrule the feds is the way to go. It's not > like you;re short of lawyers or anything. > > FoFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue May 15 10:25:19 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:25:19 EDT Subject: BOC: A view of the band and its producers from Lester Bangs In-Reply-To: <200105151415.f4FEFwf23665@shell.acmenet.net> Message-ID: On 15 May 2001, at 14:15, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > ..can be found in the article "The New Prefab Nihilism" at > http://thedictators.com/penthouse.html > Hmm...I happen to have a Creem magazine with an article entitled: Blue Oyster Cult are God, written by the very same Mr. Bangs. Speaking of which, anyone seen the recent flick Almost Famous? theo From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue May 15 10:30:58 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:30:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: GANJA:Medical Marijuana, Supreme Court ruling -_- Message-ID: well I never knew that............... Sam -----Original Message----- From: John Majka [mailto:jmajka2 at HOME.COM] Sent: 15 May 2001 15:24 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: GANJA:Medical Marijuana, Supreme Court ruling -_- You know, for all practical purposes, Marijuana is already legal as a medicinal.... pure THC is available in pill form under the name Marinol. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > > > > > WASHINGTON (May 14) - The Supreme Court handed medical marijuana users a > > major defeat Monday, ruling that a federal law classifying the drug as > > illegal has no exception for ill patients. > > > > The 8-0 decision was a major disappointment to many sufferers of AIDS, > > cancer, multiple sclerosis and other illnesses. They have said the drug > > helped enormously in combatting the devastating effects of their diseases. > > <...> > > > > Voters in Arizona, Alaska, California, Colorado, Maine, Nevada, Oregon and > > Washington also have approved ballot initiatives allowing the use of medical > > marijuana. In Hawaii, the legislature passed a similar law and the governor > > signed it last year. > > You guys really need to get over Prohibition. The joke has gone way too > far and it's infected the rest of us. > > You got rid of alcohol Prohibition by a convocation of States. If there > are enough states willing to medicalise marijuana then maybe getting the > 2/3 of states needed to overrule the feds is the way to go. It's not > like you;re short of lawyers or anything. > > FoFP *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 15 12:12:51 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:42:51 +0930 Subject: OFF: GANJA:Medical Marijuana, Supreme Court ruling -_- Message-ID: ching' two cents deposited - "please state your opinion sir" Isn't that a synthetic form though? The world Pharmacuetical empire - now theres where you'll find SATAN sitting on a hot coal sipping rocket fuel Thats no joke Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:54 PM Subject: Re: OFF: GANJA:Medical Marijuana, Supreme Court ruling -_- > You know, for all practical purposes, Marijuana is already legal as a > medicinal.... pure THC is available in pill form under the name Marinol. > John Majka > jmajka2 at home.com > > > > DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (May 14) - The Supreme Court handed medical marijuana users a > > > major defeat Monday, ruling that a federal law classifying the drug as > > > illegal has no exception for ill patients. > > > > > > The 8-0 decision was a major disappointment to many sufferers of AIDS, > > > cancer, multiple sclerosis and other illnesses. They have said the drug > > > helped enormously in combatting the devastating effects of their > diseases. > > > > <...> > > > > > > Voters in Arizona, Alaska, California, Colorado, Maine, Nevada, Oregon > and > > > Washington also have approved ballot initiatives allowing the use of > medical > > > marijuana. In Hawaii, the legislature passed a similar law and the > governor > > > signed it last year. > > > > You guys really need to get over Prohibition. The joke has gone way too > > far and it's infected the rest of us. > > > > You got rid of alcohol Prohibition by a convocation of States. If there > > are enough states willing to medicalise marijuana then maybe getting the > > 2/3 of states needed to overrule the feds is the way to go. It's not > > like you;re short of lawyers or anything. > > > > FoFP > From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Tue May 15 14:18:54 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:18:54 -0400 Subject: OFF: Test Message-ID: Just checking if I'm still subscribed... I'm having doubts! --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue May 15 14:23:32 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:23:32 EDT Subject: OFF: Test In-Reply-To: <200105151818.OAA00127@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 15 May 2001, at 14:18, Alex S. Garcia wrote: > Just checking if I'm still subscribed... I'm having doubts! > > Loud and clear from here! tj From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Tue May 15 14:47:28 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:47:28 -0600 Subject: HW:Astral Mind Games Message-ID: Anybody know what this is? Hawkwind/Astral Mind Games ....CD $13.99 Mark L From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue May 15 15:14:31 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:14:31 -0400 Subject: OFF: GANJA:Medical Marijuana, Supreme Court ruling -_- Message-ID: On Tue, 15 May 2001 09:24:14 -0500, John Majka wrote: >You know, for all practical purposes, Marijuana is already legal as a >medicinal.... pure THC is available in pill form under the name Marinol. That is true. However, one of the main medical uses of cannabis is as an anti-nauseant for people undergoing chemotherapy for cancer or AIDS who are unable to swallow anything - even a Marinol pill - without puking it back up. Sorta defeats the purpose (although the pill form would certainly be viable for glaucoma patients, one of the other main medical uses). [and FoFP wrote:] >> You guys really need to get over Prohibition. The joke has gone way too >> far and it's infected the rest of us. Agreed, although prohibitive legislation hardly originated in this country (but it doesn't help that some of the original settlers were folks who left England after the pro-prohibition Cromwell government got what was coming to it). Of course, you're correct that (praise Allah!) states like Saudi Arabia aren't exactly trying to push THEIR laws down the throats of Western European and South American nations, unlike this neighborhood bully ... >> You got rid of alcohol Prohibition by a convocation of States. If there >> are enough states willing to medicalise marijuana then maybe getting the >> 2/3 of states needed to overrule the feds is the way to go. That's a Constitutional Ammendment. The catch is that one of those has to be approved by congress before it can be ratified by the 2/3 of the states required to bring the ammendment into effect. It doesn't do anything if 2/3 of the states act on their own (although if the states' congressional representatives are doing their jobs, they would approve the ammendment in congress to reflect the will of the states' voters, but that is clearly currently not the case: California's two senators, for instance, both (neo- )"liberal" Democrats, are hardcore WOsD (War On some Drugs) supporters, DESPITE the state's voters having passed both medical marijuana AND treatment-over-incarceration ballot initiatives). Of course, it pretty much took the Great Depression to get that ammendment passed. So maybe the Bush (p)residency isn't such a bad thing, after all ... -Doug (damn proud of his hometown CBC for fighting the good fight!) jasret at mindspring.com From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue May 15 15:44:41 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (MSH) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:44:41 -0400 Subject: OFF: GANJA:Medical Marijuana, Supreme Court ruling -_- In-Reply-To: <200105151914.PAA05863@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Great Salon Article http://salon.com/mwt/feature/2001/05/15/weed_love/index.html _ ________________________ "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill > >That is true. However, one of the main medical uses of cannabis is as an >anti-nauseant for people undergoing chemotherapy for cancer or AIDS who are >unable to swallow anything - even a Marinol pill - without puking it back >up. Sorta defeats the purpose (although the pill form would certainly be >viable for glaucoma patients, one of the other main medical uses). > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed May 16 01:26:40 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:26:40 -0400 Subject: HW: Church of Hawkwind LP Message-ID: Hi, picked up an extra vinyl copy of 'Church of Hawkwind' this evening at Amoeba for $8. The booklet IS included, and the sleeve has the "tactile" ink. Sleeve condition is around VG/VG+ (no ringwear, but some corner crease/scuff - not good enough for your standards, Mike!), haven't played the vinyl yet, but it looks pretty good. If you need it, drop me a line ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Wed May 16 01:38:44 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:38:44 -0600 Subject: ???? Message-ID: ok, how come I keep getting kicked off the list? This is the third time this year I've had to resubscribe:):) Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Tigger, your obviously a person of fine taste and selective breeding. Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: Tigger To: Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 11:37 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Genesis > In article , Nick Medford > writes > >In message <001701c0db07$50248ac0$430c28d5 at starfield>, Captain Bl at ck > > writes > >>To me, Genesis will only ever be with Steve Hackett on guitar. His writing > >>and playing is totally inspired unlike some of the more cod prog-rock > >>compositions of Tony Banks. Its no co-incidence the only track on Wind & > >>Wuthering worth listening to is Blood on the Rooftops. > > At least on that album although Gabriel had gone, they still sounded > like Genesis. After Hackett left, they became Phil Collins backing band. > > >>Its interesting to listen to the early albums and pick out the bits Hackett > >>obviously wrote - Dance of the Moonlit Knight has some of his trademark > >>chord progressions for one. > > > >He's often been quoted as saying that "Selling England" was his favourite > >Genesis album. The track "After The Ordeal" has some of his most haunting > >guitar work. > >> > >>Hackett's first four solo albums also deserve a good listen > > > >I'll always have a soft spot for Steve Hackett- first gig I ever attended was > >Hackett and backing band (including Ian Moseley, who was mentioned in > >the drummers thread), Southend circa 1983. His earlier solo albums are > >intriguing - some majestic playing and some truly remarkable eccentricity: > > > >> - after all, > >>has anybody ever done anything quite like Tiger Moth Chances before or > >>since? > > > >or "Carry On Up The Vicarage" and "Sentimental Institution" for that > >matter... > > > >Fifth album "Cured" was mostly dreadful, > > IMO 'a cradle of swans' is fantastic, 'overnight sleeper' is good. Says > something about the rest of it that I those are the only 2 I ever play > off that one. > > >but there's some excellent stuff on > >the later "Till We Have Faces". Completely lost touch with whatever he was > >up to after that- I know he was in some bloody awful AOR/prog-hasbeen > >supergroup for a while, > > GTR, with Steve Howe > > > and he's done an album of dodgy Genesis remakes... > >so perhaps I don't really need to know any more than that... > > I think some of his later albums are excellent, especially Darktown and > Guitar Noir - and the almost solo classical live one, 'there are many > sides to the night'. I can't think of a better word to describe his > playing on them than beautiful. > > >>How could they possibly consider reforming, albeit as a one off, without > >>him? > > > >Well in the recent Mojo retrospective on the band, he says he would only > >participate if they let him black up and play harmonica! Which would seem > >to be a roundabout way of saying he's not interested. > > Add to that the part of the Top 10 of prog rock that covered Genesis not > only didn't feature him, he didn't even get mentioned at all. > > -- > David Blair From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 16 05:12:36 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:12:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: GANJA:Medical Marijuana, Supreme Court ruling -_- In-Reply-To: John Majka's message of Tue, 15 May 2001 09:24:14 -0500 Message-ID: John Majka writes: > You know, for all practical purposes, Marijuana is already legal as a > medicinal.... pure THC is available in pill form under the name Marinol. Good as far as it goes. The research evidence, such as it so far is, is that Marinol is not as effective as straight marijuana. This suggests that other chemicals in the plant, apart from THC are useful medically. I would agree with the medics that it's probably not good in the long term for victims to smoke a medicine (though the patients are in the best position to balance their risks and benefits)and that the feeling of being high (or of paranoia) is a hindrance rather than a benefit to some. It would therefore be useful to develop a sythetic substitute as an inhaler. In the meantime though, it's stupid to deny patients the benefit of the actual plant. Nobody ever died of marijuana so it seems stupid to stop patients using it simply because other people have a good time doing the same thing. The future is likely to view the prohibitions of our time as a cross between economic flat-earthism and pogroms like the Crusades. FoFP From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Wed May 16 08:41:46 2001 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:41:46 -0000 Subject: Alien 4 cd and Spacebrock Message-ID: I,m looking for these 2 Cd,s.I'll swap or buy.I,ve got a Bob Calvert and Starfighters homemade Vid of them rehursing in a barn.He does RADIO EYGPT-DIAMOND MINE-COLD WAR KID- as well as a blinding Spirit of the age!And a reggie Silver Machine!And lots more!It's around 1&1/2 hrs long and I think more Cadets should see the Magic at work!Sorry Ben! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed May 16 08:42:41 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:42:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: more on Douglas Adams Message-ID: See: http://www.edge.org/documents/adams_index.html http://www.newscientist.com/dailynews/news.jsp?id=ns9999730 -- Nick Medford From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed May 16 15:03:50 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:03:50 -0000 Subject: DECLARATION Message-ID: DECLARATION I Judge, who has made the oath of allegiance unto the Vagina of the Earth Mother, and in who?s left hand resides the Sword of Truth, and in who?s right hand resides the Heart of Love and who?s earthly manifestation stands on the Balance say: Come, come unto us those who desire the oil of the Trinity that their threefold nature reaches the Harmony of Perfection. We, who have by our earthly toils gained the sonic key of the many keys, which release the dove, We who now see, chosen and blessed by the Non-Duality, We who are joined and uplifted by the Heart, We, together, We who know we are nothing, We who know we are everything. Fear not the dark, for behold, the Mother pours forth her all-engulfing life from her cosmic Vagina and is flanked by the eyes of the Hawk and the Trident of the Rider and she sits upon the stone table of Albion. which cannot die. Fear not the dark, for we have drunk of the cup of life and we beckon the hypocrites and prudes who are shackled and branded, come, come unto the killing fields where in joy our batteries of Truth and the elixir of Light and the third eye of Thunder and the flail of the Fast and the aura of the Forest will wither thine corrupted forms back to the earth, for you are with and of darkness and with hell you are in agreement. See our nomad children dance through your arrows with laughter. Hear our newlyborns speak your insubstantial names with ease. Now, quake, for your secret name is dollar and pound and yen and mark and your symbols are seen and impotent. Eee it?s a laf int? it Biggest laugh is that it?s all true! Now, oh where are you o lost brothers and sisters of the BLESSED INNER SANCTUM Have the demons uprooted you from your warm hearths? Or have you departed upon your quests? Or have you set the controls for the heart of the earth? Here are some of the earth names of the Lost Loved Ones (not the secret names of course!) Andy Gillam Andy Rachael Evans Max J D?Ayala William Bailey? Jamie R Give us a buzz Love, Judge Casualty _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 16 16:16:33 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:16:33 -0600 Subject: DECLARATION In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Scorching and Fire-frightening..... sure glad I signed up first........ m c From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Wed May 16 16:57:49 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:57:49 EDT Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... Message-ID: OK I've got a tad confused about this thread, but just to add more confusion to the mix I've got the following ; Hawklords...original uk release(I know this coz i bought it the day it came out ! cds 4014, printed inner (pics Only) , No booklet (wasnt included), Black lettered spine reads "Charisma records" Hawklords 25 years on" "Cds 4014" Front cover just has Hawklords in pink, plus tiny black letters right at upper left of sleeve "Pan transcendental industries inc." and at upper right "25 years on" in Tiny black letters. and in lower right a sort of flame shaped black hand logo with "reality you can rely on" written i n tiny black letters. It has a brown label and A#1 B#1 printing before the UT wording on the run off groove. PXR5 Brown label, cds 4016, no sticker (Never had one) bought brand new A#1 B#1 run off groove, originally with free Hawkwind family tree poster, I think there was a leaflet inside inviting one to send off for this. (Can anyone confirm existence of leaflet ?) My surviving copies of QSC and ASAM on Vinyl are both blue label reissues (Brown labels long since gone the way of damaged through lending to others and playing at parties), but I remember a free set of colour slides of atomhenge set and band with QSC, again, I think a send off for these leaflet was included (anyone confirm?). Dont remember any freebies with ASAM except printed inner with spoof ads, but can confirm reverse print brown label story. Hope some of this info is useful to someone out there. All the best in the spirit of Hawkdom Alistair O From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 16 18:19:53 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:19:53 -0600 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... In-Reply-To: <8.14638220.283443cd@aol.com> Message-ID: Dear Al, to the best of my knowledge, the reality is like this.... my knowledge could be incorrect, and appropriate corrections are welcome, of course!!!!!! I BELIEVE that the brown labels on the Charisma LP's are the ORIGINAL pressings...... blue labels came later...(I Believe) the Hawklords talk is mostly concerning the spine, which is all you would see, if your record were in it's cabinet.......... my understanding/belief, is that the first pressings have the full title on the spine, while later pressings had just Hawklords....... I think copies that have the booklet are a case of people adding some to it (maybe even the band), that were left over from tour......(I honestly don't know about this, but can say that getting a copy that includes it is VERY rare) as for the PXR5 LP, many people look for it to include the poster, when in fact it was just a merchandise flyer, where you had to send away for the actual poster...(I have to this day not got a copy with the flyer, it is quite a find on it's own.....I will live fine without one, however) If you had a copy of Quark, with the set of slides, it would be my understanding that you had a German copy, as this is the only country I am aware of that included these........ hope I get not on nerves now........ bye m From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed May 16 17:51:16 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 17:51:16 -0400 Subject: HW: Brian Message-ID: hey !! chekkout the tracklist here... http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/hawkwind/hawkvp4.htm is BrianStorm a new track? ('Satalite' too?) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed May 16 16:54:50 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:54:50 -0400 Subject: OFF: More on D. Adams Message-ID: More on Adams...Grakkl (FAA) Galactic hitchhiker honoured with a rock: In a coincidence that could have been taken straight from one of his quirky novels, on the day British writer Douglas Adams died, an international space agency named an asteroid Arthurdent, after a character from his best-known work, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. The Minor Planet Center, a branch of the International Astronomical Union, made the announcement on Friday in an e-mail circular, a spokesman for the centre in Cambridge, Mass., said yesterday. One of the centre's roles is to assign names to new asteroids, comets and other orbiting rocks. From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 16 18:10:43 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 23:10:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Message-ID: Really knowledgeable about their artists aren't they? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Rx" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:51 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brian > hey !! chekkout the tracklist here... > > http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/hawkwind/hawkvp4.htm > > is BrianStorm a new track? > ('Satalite' too?) > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 16 19:35:45 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 00:35:45 +0100 Subject: HW VOiceprint Message-ID: A customer of ours wanted everyone here to see the e.mail he's sending to Voiceprint about the free CD - agree or not, here it is. Andy Garibaldi. ------------------------ Dear Sirs, Thank you for showing me once again how Hawkwind and its Record Labels (namely you) treats its fans - WITH UTTER CONTEMPT! The free CD we were so proudly promised by you for collecting the other CD's issued, turns out to be nothing but a cut down version of a commercially released CD and this has only been sent to us because YOU made a mistake at pressing time. It can only be assumed that from the outset you had a CD in mind to press and send out to us fans. It was Weird 108 we were expecting as this was missing from your commercial release schedule and includes tracks which have not been made available elsewhere on CD. It would also have given us the tracks from "Dawn Of" without Dave Brock's chat, and have completed our collections. You will appreciate from the tone of this mail that I feel totally let down by what has occurred. This to my mind is taking advantage of your customers and being able to market something which to all intents and purposes is sub standard and was never intended, and indeed should not, have been issued. You are using us to offset your costs and expenses when someone in your organisation has made a mistake. Under normal circumstances you would have had to have written this expense off, but you have been very opportunistic in ripping off your customers. I will be very pleased to hear your comments on the above and how, and indeed if, you are prepared to see this as an opportunity to restore my faith in your organisation. Yours Steve Freight From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Wed May 16 19:45:22 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 17:45:22 -0600 Subject: OFF: More on D. Adams Message-ID: Now, that is too cool. What a neat memorial to an awesome author:) BTW, Keith, Just got my paws on that new Legendary Pink Dots! Good stuph, there! Pam K Henderson wrote: > More on Adams...Grakkl (FAA) > > Galactic hitchhiker honoured with a rock: > > In a coincidence that could have been taken straight from one of his > quirky novels, on the day British writer Douglas Adams died, an > international space agency named an asteroid Arthurdent, after a > character from his best-known work, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the > Galaxy. > > The Minor Planet Center, a branch of the International Astronomical > Union, made the announcement on Friday in an e-mail circular, a > spokesman for the centre in Cambridge, Mass., said yesterday. One of > the centre's roles is to assign names to new asteroids, comets and > other orbiting rocks. -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace We have the Spacebrock cd in stock along with a lot of other Hawkwind cd's. Peace and Love, Jim Collins From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed May 16 20:43:28 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 20:43:28 -0400 Subject: HW VOiceprint Message-ID: On Thu, 17 May 2001 00:35:45 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >A customer of ours wanted everyone here to see the e.mail he's sending to >Voiceprint about the free CD - agree or not, here it is. >Andy Garibaldi. Thanks for forwarding this. I can mostly understand how someone would come to feel this way (and hasn't it always been a favorite sport of Hawkwind fans to complain about the band's label?), but ... >------------------------ >Dear Sirs, > >Thank you for showing me once again how Hawkwind and its Record Labels >(namely you) treats its fans - WITH UTTER CONTEMPT! I wouldn't say that about the band, but this certainly isn't new news regarding the band's labels over the years. However, to be fair to the labels, pretty much every label that HAS done "cheesy", "rip-off" stuff, has also done really GOOD stuff, too (those that re-released 'Yuri Gagarin' under different titles excepted, of course). Sure, Flicknife has licensed a zillion compilations of the material released on the label, that Dave/Hawks may or may not see money from, but they also (PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong on this, as this is pure assumption!) paid the advance that allowed the band to record 'Chronicle of the Black Sword' at Rockfield - it's VERY unprecedented for an independent label to pay for an expensive, prestigious studio like that (even as a recoupable advance - that's enough cash "out of the flow" to seriously risk bankruptcy for most indies). They also put out a nicely-packaged box set with an exclusive interview LP (and no whining about having to buy the whole box just to get the interview disc - those kind of things are for only the hardkore kollektors anyway). EBS may have screwed up on 'Distant Horizons', but the 'Business Trip' and 'Love In Space' packages were utterly gorgeous (and they both *sound* excellent). They definitely deserve credit for those. And would anyone on the list prefer that Voiceprint HADN'T released the Weird series and Collectors' series on CD? Not me! >It can only be assumed that from the outset you had a CD in mind to press >and send out to us fans. Why would anyone assume this? None of Voiceprint's literature ever said free UNRELEASED or EXCLUSIVE CD, did it? Sounds like (very) wishful thinking to me. (Actually, my suspicion all along was that the free CD was going to be 'Hawkwind 97', since that's a Voiceprint release. I can certainly understand that if that was indeed the case, that Voiceprint would have changed their mind once they got stuck with a run of "un- sellable" copies of 'Spacebrock'.) >It was Weird 108 we were expecting as this was missing from your commercial >release schedule and includes tracks which have not been made available >elsewhere on CD. It would also have given us the tracks from "Dawn Of" >without Dave Brock's chat, and have completed our collections. Yes, that would have been nice, but it's still just wishful thinking - another assumption without actual basis. >[snip] >Under normal circumstances you would have had to have written this expense >off, but you have been very opportunistic in ripping off your customers. Waitaminit?!? The label is ripping of its customers by sending them a FREE CD? THAT I just don't get. >I will be very pleased to hear your comments on the above and how, and >indeed if, you are prepared to see this as an opportunity to restore my >faith in your organisation. The only possible outcome I could foresee from this is that Voiceprint will never again make a "free CD" offer. Am I gonna have to write them a letter thanking them for their Hawkwind program and telling them to ignore the muttering in the peanut gallery? Sorry, but this kind of whining strikes me as completely unfounded. I can see complaining about the sound quality of 'Glastonbury 90' (but I'm not! I'm glad to have the recording!), or about labeling 'Spacebrock' as "Hawkwind" rather than "Brock" (I'd suggest that the "file under Hawkwind" sticker might make more sense, but hey - I can tell the difference), or about the *major* problems with songwriting/personnel credits (already did that!). But complaining about a FREE GIFT!?! Sheesh. But enough of that; I'll try to offer some constructive commentary now. As long as we're in "wishful thinking" mode, here's what I'd like to see ... Since the "original" Weird CD's seem to be going out of print, perhaps they could be redone more efficiently: * ALL the Hawkwind live '77 material (102/103/105) could be combined on a single CD. * ALL the Hawklords live AND studio material (104/102) could be combined on a single CD. * ALL the Dave Brock solo stuff (101/107) could be on a single CD. * The pre-Hawkwind and early Hawkwind stuff (106/108), minus the already- available tracks, could be on a single CD. * Everything else (Watchfield, live '76, studio outtakes, Sonic Assassins - 101/103/105/etc.) could fit on a fifth CD. That way, all the CD's would flow thematically much better (except maybe the final one, which wouldn't be any worse in that respect than the existing series), we (the fans/kollektors) would have to purchase fewer CD's, and Voiceprint could conceivably fairly charge more (an extra ? per?) for each CD. Sounds to me like a winner for everyone ... -Doug (who has actually run a label) jasret at mindspring.com From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Thu May 17 02:17:37 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 07:17:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... Message-ID: Mike/Al etc, I think you're exactly right with all the detail here. Charisma's decision to change 25 Years spine, much to Dave et al's disgust. The booklet is just the tour programme, not aware that the 2 were ever packaged together. Never seen the PXR5 flyer either, or the tree for that matter, is it just the Pete Frame one which came as a double page spread in Sounds in 1979? If so, is it paper, card, A3, A4, laminated, coloured etc? Quark slides definitely European only, not sure if limited to Germany or not though. I've got photos from the slides which are absolutely brilliant. Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:19 PM Subject: Re: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... > Dear Al, to the best of my knowledge, the reality is like this.... > > my knowledge could be incorrect, and appropriate corrections are welcome, > of course!!!!!! > > > I BELIEVE that the brown labels on the Charisma LP's are the ORIGINAL > pressings...... > > blue labels came later...(I Believe) > > > the Hawklords talk is mostly concerning the spine, which is all you would > see, if your record were in it's cabinet.......... > > my understanding/belief, is that the first pressings have the full title on > the spine, while later pressings had just Hawklords....... > > I think copies that have the booklet are a case of people adding some to it > (maybe even the band), that were left over from tour......(I honestly don't > know about this, but can say that getting a copy that includes it is VERY > rare) > > as for the PXR5 LP, many people look for it to include the poster, when in > fact it was just a merchandise flyer, where you had to send away for the > actual poster...(I have to this day not got a copy with the flyer, it is > quite a find on it's own.....I will live fine without one, however) > > If you had a copy of Quark, with the set of slides, it would be my > understanding that you had a German copy, as this is the only country I am > aware of that included these........ > > > hope I get not on nerves now........ > > > bye > > > m > From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Thu May 17 04:13:25 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:13:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Message-ID: Release Brian - yeah welease Bwian Sam -----Original Message----- From: Rik Rx [mailto:hw at CY-B.ORG] Sent: 16 May 2001 22:51 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Brian hey !! chekkout the tracklist here... http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/hawkwind/hawkvp4.htm is BrianStorm a new track? ('Satalite' too?) *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 17 05:20:41 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 18:50:41 +0930 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... Message-ID: Hi Mike Tell me about these slides with the Quark album - curious Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:49 AM Subject: Re: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... > Dear Al, to the best of my knowledge, the reality is like this.... > > my knowledge could be incorrect, and appropriate corrections are welcome, > of course!!!!!! > > > I BELIEVE that the brown labels on the Charisma LP's are the ORIGINAL > pressings...... > > blue labels came later...(I Believe) > > > the Hawklords talk is mostly concerning the spine, which is all you would > see, if your record were in it's cabinet.......... > > my understanding/belief, is that the first pressings have the full title on > the spine, while later pressings had just Hawklords....... > > I think copies that have the booklet are a case of people adding some to it > (maybe even the band), that were left over from tour......(I honestly don't > know about this, but can say that getting a copy that includes it is VERY > rare) > > as for the PXR5 LP, many people look for it to include the poster, when in > fact it was just a merchandise flyer, where you had to send away for the > actual poster...(I have to this day not got a copy with the flyer, it is > quite a find on it's own.....I will live fine without one, however) > > If you had a copy of Quark, with the set of slides, it would be my > understanding that you had a German copy, as this is the only country I am > aware of that included these........ > > > hope I get not on nerves now........ > > > bye > > > m > From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Thu May 17 05:50:02 2001 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:50:02 -0000 Subject: SpaceBrock Message-ID: Can the guys who sent me the message saying they had SpaceBrock cd in stock please send the info again as I deleted the message by mistake!sorry!YAD _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 17 06:04:46 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 19:34:46 +0930 Subject: HW: Brian Message-ID: wot about woja or wodawick or bikus dikus he he ----- Original Message ----- From: Samantha Kirwan To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:43 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brian > Release Brian - yeah welease Bwian > > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rik Rx [mailto:hw at CY-B.ORG] > Sent: 16 May 2001 22:51 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Brian > > > hey !! chekkout the tracklist here... > > http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/hawkwind/hawkvp4.htm > > is BrianStorm a new track? > ('Satalite' too?) > > > **************************************************************************** ******* > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > **************************************************************************** ******* > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 17 06:15:06 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 19:45:06 +0930 Subject: Space Rock related hear ye hear ye Message-ID: Just to let all ya'll fine folks out there know that the Australian space rock band >>> ALIEN DREAM <<< are currently being promoted and pampered by none other than the infamous Andy G of CD-SERVICES > Hail CD-S The review from CD services can be found in their latest catalogue on page 6. I have scanned that particular review as an msWord document and it can be downloaded from the >>>ALIEN DREAM<<< web site http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Alien_Dream/Alien_Dream_Index.htm There is also a partial demo in mp3 format for your listening enjoyment! Soon I will have a fully fledged .com.au set up for AD and the samples will be full length. Some live shows in Australia will soon be under way. ......I have a Dream!!! Mb From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Thu May 17 12:31:29 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:31:29 -0400 Subject: HW:Questions Message-ID: On the CDZone site there are two Quark Strangeness and Charm CD's listed. One with number GRF312CD IMP2103700 and one is 11quid and the other 26! Does anyone no the difference between these two as I played my vinyl copy last night and after 24 years of wear is showing it's age. Also there is a Hawklords Live 78 CD? IS htis Wierd 104 or something different? Thanks Eddie Jobson From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu May 17 07:43:19 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 06:43:19 -0500 Subject: SpaceBrock Message-ID: HI That was JIM COLLINS--ccollins54 at aol.com,STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: alan day [mailto:yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 4:50 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: SpaceBrock Can the guys who sent me the message saying they had SpaceBrock cd in stock please send the info again as I deleted the message by mistake!sorry!YAD _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu May 17 08:53:37 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:53:37 -0400 Subject: HW VOiceprint In-Reply-To: <200105170043.UAA10454@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 May 2001, Doug Pearson wrote: => >It can only be assumed that from the outset you had a CD in mind to press => >and send out to us fans. => => Why would anyone assume this? None of Voiceprint's literature ever said => free UNRELEASED or EXCLUSIVE CD, did it? Sounds like (very) wishful => thinking to me. (Actually, my suspicion all along was that the free CD was => going to be 'Hawkwind 97', since that's a Voiceprint release. I can => certainly understand that if that was indeed the case, that Voiceprint => would have changed their mind once they got stuck with a run of "un- => sellable" copies of 'Spacebrock'.) Let's remember that word, "unsellable," for later... => >[snip] => >Under normal circumstances you would have had to have written this expense => >off, but you have been very opportunistic in ripping off your customers. => => Waitaminit?!? The label is ripping of its customers by sending them a FREE => CD? THAT I just don't get. You make it sound like all you had to do to get this "free" CD was to send in your name and address and they'd send it back gratis. I'm not too familiar with the actual mechanics (not having been able to buy any of the Voiceprint CDs other than "Dawn of Hawkwind"), but I believe you could only get the "free" CD by collecting a number (was it 10?) of tokens only available on Voiceprint "Collector" releases. (Did you still have to ruin your purchase by cutting them out from the booklet, or did they cave in and accept photocopies?) Voiceprint may have lived up to the letter of the agreement, but certainly not to the spirit. It is entirely reasonable for a collector to assume something "special" would return in the mail in response to sending in some "collector tokens." And I mean something special in a nice way; not something of unmerchantable quality, as the author of the original complaint felt. It would not even make sense to offer back any old Voiceprint title in response to a "Collector's Series" offer because Kollectors are likely to have bought them all already. It only really makes sense (unless you don't mind stuffing it to your customers) to offer something otherwise unobtainable by other means. Obviously Voiceprint feel that a broken release like a mispress fits that bill. I guess others would feel that something of merchantable quality that was otherwise unobtainable by other means would be a more fitting reward to collectors who have loyally accrued the hallowed tokens. I can't recall anyone expressing joy at the broken _Spacebrock_ being the "free" collectable CD. Voiceprint may not be ripping anyone off legally, but I think their choice of reward is a public relations nightmare for them, and devalues confidence in Hawkwind labels and releases all around. => Sorry, but this kind of whining strikes me as completely unfounded. I don't see it as "completely unfounded" (with the emphasis on completely). Some of the author's criticisms were overly harsh, but I can see why he felt ripped off. A "reward programme" like that always builds up a certain level of expectation. Obviously Voiceprint seriously dropped the ball, and at least some are not happy in the least. Of course, being serious Hawkwind fans, they will suffer this abuse and diligently continue to kollect future Voiceprint releases. BTW, I loved your suggestions for the Weird repackages. I hope Voiceprint take note. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From CCollins54 at AOL.COM Thu May 17 09:05:45 2001 From: CCollins54 at AOL.COM (CCollins54 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:05:45 EDT Subject: SpaceBrock Message-ID: We have Hawkwind cd's in stock along with a lot of other music. Peace and Love, Jim Collins From jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE Thu May 17 03:56:31 2001 From: jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE (jc) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:56:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... In-Reply-To: <002701c0de99$3d5de4a0$6a5f883e@jezd> Message-ID: Hi there! First day of subscription and first message to let you know that i believe the slides in Quark were German-only. The left-side opening release came out in uk only, never seen a European copy with this type of opening.Never seen any tree in PXR5 either. Cheers jean From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu May 17 08:00:35 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:00:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Brian In-Reply-To: <00d301c0deb8$cdd040e0$08cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: In article <00d301c0deb8$cdd040e0$08cd223f at michaelangelo68>, Mich at el B writes >wot about woja >or wodawick >or bikus dikus > >he he We were doing some labelling in the shop the other day, when someone said the stickers were too small. "Where's the bigger stickers?" he said "Bigger Stickers?" Are you laughing at my bigger stickers? etc etc -- Jon From nick at NETPHD.NET Thu May 17 09:29:42 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:29:42 -0400 Subject: BOC: Radio??? Message-ID: Have any of the new BOC tunes been released to radio? I've not heard anything yet. --Nick From alley at ECSIS.NET Thu May 17 09:39:39 2001 From: alley at ECSIS.NET (Ken Alley) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:39:39 -0500 Subject: Spacebrock & Weird 6 Message-ID: I am fairly new to the list and I hate to beat a dead horse BUT-I purchased Spacebrock when it was released and how do you know if you have one the mispressed discs that there is so much discussion about?And I also purchased the Weird cd's from my usual import supplier and got them one here and one there(even though I ordered them all at once)but never got #6.My man said it was never released but from the discussions here I assume it was released and sold out.Is this correct?Why?Was there fewer copies pressed or is there material there that makes it essential and everybody jumped on it first?FINALLY-where can I get a copy?Thanks-Ken From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu May 17 09:50:28 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:50:28 -0400 Subject: BOC: Imaginos remaster Message-ID: Does anyone know if Imaginos will be part of the remaster series for sure? No Imaginos tunes were included in the Workshop of the Telescopes release, so I have some doubts. Also, does Al or Sony own the rights to the demos he did for the Imaginos album? (If it's in the FAQ, sorry but I'm feeling lazy today.) Fleshing out the album with the demos of the missing tunes along with some alt. versions of the album tracks would be the perfect way to finish up the remasters. Not to mention the fun we could have on BOC-L comparing Al's demos to the Brain Surgeons' "Overture" and "The Girl Love Made Blind," as well as the SFG version of "Gill Blanco County." Brian NP> Badly Drawn Boy "The Hour of Bewilderbeast" P.S. In the music section at Borders I saw an album by Spock's Beard whose cover art resembles the cover of CotHM. Coincidence, I suppose. -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu May 17 09:53:01 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:53:01 +0100 Subject: HW VOiceprint In-Reply-To: Doug Pearson's message of Wed, 16 May 2001 20:43:28 -0400 Message-ID: Doug Pearson writes: > > Since the "original" Weird CD's seem to be going out of print, perhaps they > could be redone more efficiently: > * ALL the Hawkwind live '77 material (102/103/105) could be combined on a > single CD. > * ALL the Hawklords live AND studio material (104/102) could be combined on > a single CD. > * ALL the Dave Brock solo stuff (101/107) could be on a single CD. > * The pre-Hawkwind and early Hawkwind stuff (106/108), minus the already- > available tracks, could be on a single CD. > * Everything else (Watchfield, live '76, studio outtakes, Sonic Assassins - > 101/103/105/etc.) could fit on a fifth CD. As it happens, I've done precisely that on CDR, bringing in missing tracks like Golden Void from the Sonic Assassins gig; Silver Machine and Welcome from the Greasy Truckers gig; Time For Sale and Paradox from 1976 and Waiting For the Man from Roundhouse 77. This was for a project from way back before the band announced they'd produce the weird tapes on CD (indeed discussion of the project here may have prompted this :-) I even managed to get some fancy CD boxes which hold six CD's (they're similar to the large double-CD boxes but hold two CD's on each "wing" and two on the middle segment). Unfortunately these were expensive so I only have a dozen of them. A cover had been produced by Kevin, though no back cover; circlets, or tracklist work had been done when I suspended the project upon the band's announcement. I guess it wouldn't bankrupt Voiceprint/Hawkwind if I did the dozen sets I have the boxes to do (I'd like to finish it just to have one copy myself anyway). So if eleven other diehard kollectors are interested then let me know. For reasons of avoiding expensive debates with lawyers, I'd have to restrict this to people who legally own official copies of either the weird tapes or the weird CD's as it'd be illegal for me to provide a backup service othewise :-) It should also be noted that I've been operating on Hughes Time as regards Hawkwind projects lately, but maybe this would spur me on. The tracklists were: CD1 EARLY YEARS 70-73 --- ================= (Text of Festival Tracks) W106 Hurry On Sundown 4 mins 42 W106 We Do It 10 mins 18 W108 Dreaming) W108 Shouldn't Do That) segue 12 mins 03 (split 5.09) (Greasy Truckers) W106 Master of the Universe) segue 11 mins 58 (split 4.47) W106 Announcements 0 mins 40 W106 Born To Go) + Silver Machine (Glastonbury) 4 mins 45 + Welcome (Glastonbury) 2 mins 33 (also) W108 Space Is Deep 8 mins 15 + applause W106 Earth Calling 3 mins 20 W106 Jam 3 mins 17 W108 Live and Let Live 3 mins 53 W108 Etchanatay 3 mins 06 W106 Make What You Can 6 mins 57 ---------- Total 75 mins 49 ========== ------------------------------------------------------------------ CD2 1975 - 1977 --- =========== 1975 (Watchfield) W103 Cake Out 4 mins 33 Castle Masters Collection W103 Circles 4 mins 20 W103 Elements 4 mins 15 1976 W103 Slap It On De Table 0 mins 50 W105a Paranoia 1 mins 02 W105b Back on the Streets) W105b Chronoglide Skyway) segue 8 mins 50 (split 3.42) + Time For Sale (Atom76) 8 mins 51 + Paradox (Atom76) 4 mins 20 Roundhouse 1977 W105b Brainstorm) W105b Wind of Change) segue 11 mins 30 (split 7.17) W105b Assassins of Allah) W105b Forge of Vulcan) segue 9 mins 40 (split 7.15+applause) W105b Steppenwolf 9 mins 25 + Waiting for My Man (CoF) 5 mins 21 W105a Advert 1 mins 20 ---------- Total 74 mins 17 ========== ------------------------------------------------------------------ CD3 Live '77 --- ======== Stonehenge W102 Quark Strangeness and Charm ) Anthology W102 Master of the Universe ) segue 9 mins 18 (split times 2.30 W102 The Future ) 4.40 2.04) W102 Spirit of the Age ) Best of F&R W102 Sonic Attack) segue 11 mins 00 (split times 5.40 5.20) W103 High Rise 5 mins 30 W103 Damnation Alley) W103 Uncle Sam/Iron Dream) segue 14 mins 15 (split times.7.40 12.40) W103 Robot 7 mins 10 Sonic Assassins W101 Over the Top 7 mins 37 W101 Magnu/Angels of Death 5 mins W101 FreeFall 7 mins 35 W101 Death Trap 4 mins + Golden Void (F&R) 4 mins 33 ---------- Total 75 mins 59 ------------------------------------------------------------------ CD4 HAWKLORDS --- ========= Hawklords Live 1978 W104 Death Trap) W104 Micro Man) segue 9 mins 50 (split 6.10+applause 3.40) W104 Spirit of the Age) W104 Urbane Guerilla) segue 14 mins 26 (split 9.10+applause 5.16) W104 Steppenwolf) W104 Free Fall) segue 22 mins 30 (split 8.50 5.20+applause) W104 Uncle Sam/Iron Dream) Hawklords Studio ?1978 W102 Valium 10 7 mins 50 Mighty Hawkwind Classics W102 Douglas In The Jungle 6 mins 45 Castle Masters Collection W102 Time of 5 mins 25 W105a Intro + Flying Doctor 6 mins 05 F&R III ---------- Total 72 mins 59 ========== ------------------------------------------------------------------ CD5 Rockin' With Brock --- ================== W108 Roll Em Pete) W108 Come On) segue 4 mins 45 (split 2.19) W108 Dealing With The Devil 2 mins 07 Castle Masters W108 Bring It On Home 3 mins 10 Anthology W106 Came Home 2 mins 05 Castle Masters W108 Down On Her Knees 5 mins 41 W107 Streets of Fear 4 mins 15 W107 1st Landing On Medusa 2 mins 56 W107 Touchdown 1 min 45 W107 Winter of Discontent 2 mins 20 W107 Choose Your Masks 5 mins 25 W107 Looking In The Future 3 mins 31 W107 Disintegration (not listed)) W107 Space Travellers 2 mins 31 W107 Circles ) 7 mins 11 W107 Speed of Light 5 mins 20 W107 Bombed Out 3 mins 51 W101 Nuclear Toy 4 mins 15 W101 The War 4 mins 50 W101 The Dream) W101 Assassination) segue 4 mins 55 W101 The Dream2) W101 Satellite 2 mins 40 Church of Hawkwind W105 Where Are They Now 1 mins 55 ---------- Total 75 mins 28 ========== From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu May 17 09:55:34 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:55:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... In-Reply-To: J D's message of Thu, 17 May 2001 07:17:37 +0100 Message-ID: J D writes: > Mike/Al etc, > I think you're exactly right with all the detail here. > Charisma's decision to change 25 Years spine, much to Dave et al's disgust. > The booklet is just the tour programme, not aware that the 2 were ever > packaged together. They were. I got the album in Dundee on the day of release and it contained the booklet. > Never seen the PXR5 flyer either Same story as above, except it was Perth. The flyer invited application for the family tree poster. > or the tree for that matter, is it just > the Pete Frame one which came as a double page spread in Sounds in 1979? Yep. > If so, is it paper, card, A3, A4, laminated, coloured etc? A3, brown coloured print. > Quark slides definitely European only, not sure if limited to Germany or not > though. I had it in mind that they got them in Sweden but I could be wrong. FoFP From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Thu May 17 10:11:24 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:11:24 EDT Subject: HW VOiceprint Message-ID: Dear Mike, Hello there. This is Eli Friedman writing. We met briefly at the end of the night in Croyden back in March, and I believe we left the after-show backstage doings together, at the end of the evening. I'm a friend of Bill Stewart's from NY. I'd be very interested in obtaining one of the Weird sets that you're proposing. I already own a set of the tapes from the old days, as well as the new Voiceprint releases. I have some Hawkwind video I could offer to trade you if you'd like. Anyway, keep me in mind, please, if you go ahead with the set. All the best to you, yours, Eli Friedman In a message dated 05/17/2001 09:53:37 AM, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: << I guess it wouldn't bankrupt Voiceprint/Hawkwind if I did the dozen sets I have the boxes to do (I'd like to finish it just to have one copy myself anyway). So if eleven other diehard kollectors are interested then let me know. For reasons of avoiding expensive debates with lawyers, I'd have to restrict this to people who legally own official copies of either the weird tapes or the weird CD's as it'd be illegal for me to provide a backup service othewise :-) >> From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Thu May 17 10:17:06 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:17:06 EDT Subject: OFF: Sorry Message-ID: Dear Folks, Sorry about that last post. It was of course intended for "fofp". Sorry about that. Eli From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Thu May 17 10:37:42 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (Bryan Young) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:37:42 -0600 Subject: BAD seller on ebay, rips me off for Weird Tapes #3 & #6 Message-ID: Hi, sorry if this is not the forum, but there's a seller on ebay that you should avoid. His ebay username is "corked-canuck" and he's a very despicable person. I won two of his auctions back in late February (Weird Tapes #3, and Weird Tapes #6), and there's still nothing from him. He gave me a choice when I won -- did I want it insured? I said no, because I only live a couple provinces away from him, and I've had possibly 1 or 2 lost packages in total in my 600+ trades over the world. Anyways, to make it even more suspicious, the auctions won were a few weeks apart, so they were "shipped" at different times. This means I should have got Weird #3 back in early March, and Weird #6 in late March or early April. Sorry to say, that nothing ever arrived. Now he posts negative feedback on my account saying that he's not responsible for lost items that are sent uninsured. What are the chances that both parcels got lost? And check out his recent feedback -- he's got at least another 15-20 customers from all over the world that are in the same boat. Their parcels went out uninsured, they must have gotten lost... Funny thing is that once he knows your package is lost, you'll never get another email or reply to a phone query from him. I've been trying to contact him for the past month and have never got a reply until I initiated police action by contacting the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Now I suddenly get a negative feedback (my first). I see Marshall Wood was lucky to get his item from this seller, but please, consider that the exception. Do NOT attempt to get your Hawkwind stuff from "corked-canuck". Thanks, hopefully nobody else gets ripped off. There's only been two different sellers/traders who have been deadbeats like those, and both of them are Canadians. Makes me ashamed. Bryan Young Saskatchewan, Canada ---- ebay #1415204494 User ID: corked-canuck Name: brett a seymour Company: Round Again Records City: Orillia State: Ontario Country: Canada Phone: 705 327 1611 Time/Date: Aug-29-98 12:40:13 PST ROUND AGAIN RECORDS 22 MISSISSAGA E ORILLIA ON (705) 327-1611 ---- Phone number for Orillia branch of the Ontario Provincial Police 705-326-3536 From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu May 17 10:37:08 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 22:37:08 +0800 Subject: HW:Questions Message-ID: The cheaper one is possibly the single that came out at the time of The Business Trip album, & is from that same album. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "ejobson" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:31 AM Subject: HW:Questions > On the CDZone site there are two Quark Strangeness and Charm CD's listed. > One with number GRF312CD IMP2103700 and one is 11quid and the other 26! Does > anyone no the difference between these two as I played my vinyl copy last > night and after 24 years of wear is showing it's age. > Also there is a Hawklords Live 78 CD? IS htis Wierd 104 or something > different? > Thanks > > Eddie Jobson > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu May 17 10:45:04 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 22:45:04 +0800 Subject: BAD seller on ebay, rips me off for Weird Tapes #3 & #6 Message-ID: Hi there I also won bids for 3 of the Weird Tapes from him as well. It was also in February (not the same ones), I only received them last week (I'm in Australia). He may have actually posted yours but sent it surface mail (which is what happened with mine, even though I paid for air mail!). I found it very difficult getting a reply from him, but eventually discovered he had changed email addresses. I had tried posting negative feedback about him, but couldn't get it to work. So the moral of the story is, you may still get it, but not by the postal service you paid the money for. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Young" To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: BAD seller on ebay, rips me off for Weird Tapes #3 & #6 > Hi, sorry if this is not the forum, but there's a seller on ebay that you > should avoid. His ebay username is "corked-canuck" and he's a very > despicable person. > > I won two of his auctions back in late February (Weird Tapes #3, and Weird > Tapes #6), and there's still nothing from him. He gave me a choice when I > won -- did I want it insured? I said no, because I only live a couple > provinces away from him, and I've had possibly 1 or 2 lost packages in total > in my 600+ trades over the world. > > Anyways, to make it even more suspicious, the auctions won were a few weeks > apart, so they were "shipped" at different times. This means I should have > got Weird #3 back in early March, and Weird #6 in late March or early April. > > Sorry to say, that nothing ever arrived. Now he posts negative feedback on > my account saying that he's not responsible for lost items that are sent > uninsured. What are the chances that both parcels got lost? > > And check out his recent feedback -- he's got at least another 15-20 > customers from all over the world that are in the same boat. Their parcels > went out uninsured, they must have gotten lost... Funny thing is that once > he knows your package is lost, you'll never get another email or reply to a > phone query from him. I've been trying to contact him for the past month > and have never got a reply until I initiated police action by contacting the > Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Now I suddenly get a negative feedback (my > first). > > I see Marshall Wood was lucky to get his item from this seller, but please, > consider that the exception. Do NOT attempt to get your Hawkwind stuff from > "corked-canuck". > > Thanks, hopefully nobody else gets ripped off. There's only been two > different sellers/traders who have been deadbeats like those, and both of > them are Canadians. Makes me ashamed. > > Bryan Young > Saskatchewan, Canada > ---- > ebay #1415204494 > > User ID: corked-canuck > Name: brett a seymour > Company: Round Again Records > City: Orillia > State: Ontario > Country: Canada > Phone: 705 327 1611 > Time/Date: Aug-29-98 12:40:13 PST > > > ROUND AGAIN RECORDS > 22 MISSISSAGA E > ORILLIA ON (705) 327-1611 > > ---- > Phone number for Orillia branch of the Ontario Provincial Police > 705-326-3536 > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu May 17 10:51:28 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 22:51:28 +0800 Subject: BAD seller on ebay, rips me off for Weird Tapes #3 & #6 Message-ID: Me again. Adding to what I said earlier, I would also avoid this person at all costs, as I feel that in many cases he is ripping ppl off, by claiming he is not responsible for non-insured items (in other words, he's probably keeping some of it!). As you are in the same country as him, & not overseas, I'm not so sure about whether he's posted it or not. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Young" To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: BAD seller on ebay, rips me off for Weird Tapes #3 & #6 > Hi, sorry if this is not the forum, but there's a seller on ebay that you > should avoid. His ebay username is "corked-canuck" and he's a very > despicable person. > > I won two of his auctions back in late February (Weird Tapes #3, and Weird > Tapes #6), and there's still nothing from him. He gave me a choice when I > won -- did I want it insured? I said no, because I only live a couple > provinces away from him, and I've had possibly 1 or 2 lost packages in total > in my 600+ trades over the world. > > Anyways, to make it even more suspicious, the auctions won were a few weeks > apart, so they were "shipped" at different times. This means I should have > got Weird #3 back in early March, and Weird #6 in late March or early April. > > Sorry to say, that nothing ever arrived. Now he posts negative feedback on > my account saying that he's not responsible for lost items that are sent > uninsured. What are the chances that both parcels got lost? > > And check out his recent feedback -- he's got at least another 15-20 > customers from all over the world that are in the same boat. Their parcels > went out uninsured, they must have gotten lost... Funny thing is that once > he knows your package is lost, you'll never get another email or reply to a > phone query from him. I've been trying to contact him for the past month > and have never got a reply until I initiated police action by contacting the > Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Now I suddenly get a negative feedback (my > first). > > I see Marshall Wood was lucky to get his item from this seller, but please, > consider that the exception. Do NOT attempt to get your Hawkwind stuff from > "corked-canuck". > > Thanks, hopefully nobody else gets ripped off. There's only been two > different sellers/traders who have been deadbeats like those, and both of > them are Canadians. Makes me ashamed. > > Bryan Young > Saskatchewan, Canada > ---- > ebay #1415204494 > > User ID: corked-canuck > Name: brett a seymour > Company: Round Again Records > City: Orillia > State: Ontario > Country: Canada > Phone: 705 327 1611 > Time/Date: Aug-29-98 12:40:13 PST > > > ROUND AGAIN RECORDS > 22 MISSISSAGA E > ORILLIA ON (705) 327-1611 > > ---- > Phone number for Orillia branch of the Ontario Provincial Police > 705-326-3536 > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu May 17 09:51:26 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:51:26 -0400 Subject: HW:Questions Message-ID: EJ asked... >On the CDZone site there are two Quark Strangeness and Charm CD's listed. >One with number GRF312CD IMP2103700 and one is 11quid and the other 26! Does >anyone no the difference between these two as I played my vinyl copy last >night and after 24 years of wear is showing it's age. I know there was a Griffin CD "Box Set" release that was just the QSC CD (with the new ugly cover) and some hard-cover (?) book that Godwin found in large quantities in a warehouse somewhere. Quite periferally connected. A Moorcock novel or something similar. Perhaps that's the thing that's 26 quid? Grakkl (FAA) From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Thu May 17 11:51:34 2001 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:51:34 -0700 Subject: BAD seller on ebay, rips me off for Weird Tapes #3 & #6 Message-ID: Hello! Sorry to hear about your eBay woes. >there's a seller on ebay that you >should avoid. His ebay username is "corked-canuck" and he's a very >despicable person. He has certainly chalked up a lot of negatives in the last couple of weeks! Anyone with over 5% negative & neutral feedback should definitely be approached with caution. >I see Marshall Wood was lucky to get his item from this seller, but please, >consider that the exception. Do NOT attempt to get your Hawkwind stuff from >"corked-canuck". I did get my CD (Weird #7), though I didn't insure it. I took a while to pay while I waited for some of his other auctions to end (we agreed to this immediately after the Weird #7 auction closed). When I did pay, the delivery was pretty slow. I did not choose to mention that in my feedback, since he had allowed me to delay payment pending the results of other auctions. Despite my success, I would agree with Bryan on this. Get your Hawkwind stuff from reputable folks like Gary at www.artist-shop.com, Jerry at www.aural-innovations.com, or AndyG at www.cd-services.com. All are excellent and very helpful in resolving issues (though I doubt you will have any). (Not to exclude other sellers, those are just 3 I have dealt with in the last month or 2.) Does Mr.Corked-Canuck still have the date on his PC set back several months (you can tell by the send date on his email) ? Likely an attempt to extend a dated license...just a very suspicious character all around. MWood NP: Alan Davey - _Chaos Delight_ ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu May 17 12:03:14 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 00:03:14 +0800 Subject: BAD seller on ebay, rips me off for Weird Tapes #3 & #6 Message-ID: > (Not to exclude other sellers, those are just 3 I have dealt with in > the last month or 2.) > > Does Mr.Corked-Canuck still have the date on his PC set back > several months (you can tell by the send date on his email) ? > Likely an attempt to extend a dated license...just a very > suspicious character all around. > That's one thing in particular I was very suspicious about. Maybe the reason he is slow at sending items out is because he doesn't have said item in his possession, & is trying to obtain it cheaper from elsewhere once the auction has ended? William From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu May 17 12:14:37 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:14:37 GMT Subject: BOC: review of the HOB version of DFtR (ouch!) Message-ID: A hypnotic hit from the Summer of '76, "Don't Fear The Reaper" is one of the greatest rock songs of all time, melding patented Blue Oyster Cult heaviness with the euphoric jangle of vintage Byrds records. The song's perfection was such that it proved almost impossible to duplicate in concert, as the slightly rougher versions captured on such live documents as 1978's Some Enchanted Evening and 1982's Extraterrestrial Live attest. But even those renditions are light years better than this one, which was recorded live at Orlando's House of Blues in May 2000. Part of the problem is an inept mix -- the backing vocals are placed much higher than the lead, and the keyboards and cowbell grow disproportionately loud at times -- but most of the blame has to be laid at the feet of the band members themselves. The vocals are half-hearted and tuneless, the drums occasionally come in at the wrong time, and the whole thing sounds like the ham-fisted work of paunchy, middle-aged sanitation engineers trying to recapture their lost youth by jamming B.O.C. tunes in a weekend cover band. Buck Dharma's guitar licks are immediately identifiable, of course, but even they sound tired and out of practice. Don't fear the Reaper, boys; call it quits before the B.O.C. name loses every last vestige of its magic and mystique. --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu May 17 12:49:34 2001 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:49:34 EDT Subject: BOC: Imaginos remaster Message-ID: In a message dated 05/17/2001 9:47:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > Does anyone know if Imaginos will be part of the remaster series for sure? > No Imaginos tunes were included in the Workshop of the Telescopes release, > so I have some doubts. > > Also, does Al or Sony own the rights to the demos he did for the Imaginos > album? (If it's in the FAQ, sorry but I'm feeling lazy today.) Fleshing out > the album with the demos of the missing tunes along with some alt. versions > of the album tracks would be the perfect way to finish up the remasters. Not > to mention the fun we could have on BOC-L comparing Al's demos to the Brain > Surgeons' "Overture" and "The Girl Love Made Blind," as well as the SFG > version of "Gill Blanco County." > > Note that Gil Blanco County and Girl Love Made Blind were not demos, they were actual, completed songs ready for inclusion on Imaginos. Half Life Time is, however, a demo, and one I would love to see included with the Imaginos remaster along with Gil Blanco and Girl. Gil Blanco is still fairly similar to the original SFG version, but Girl is very different from the Brain Surgeons version. SET From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu May 17 13:05:55 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 18:05:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Isle of Wight Message-ID: Does anyone know if theres a list of all the gig dates on any of the web pages? I mentioned Hawkwind at work today, and one of the guys said he'd seen them at isle of Wight festival playing on the back of a truck, as well as the Pink friaries ;-) I asked him what he thought he said: "Loud" LoL. Mind you he also slept through Jimi Hendrix set. Rich W From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Thu May 17 14:20:53 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:20:53 +0200 Subject: HW: Isle of Wight In-Reply-To: <005a01c0def3$a2e96d80$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: Hi, >Does anyone know if theres a list of all the gig dates on any of the web >pages? You can find a list of all known gigs on my site in the gigs section. The site shouldn't be that slow anymore, cause I changed my provider. If anyone still encounters problems, please notify me (I'm especially interested in feedback from non-M$IE users). >I mentioned Hawkwind at work today, and one of the guys said he'd seen them >at isle of Wight festival playing on the back of a truck, as well as the >Pink friaries ;-) > >I asked him what he thought he said: > >"Loud" > >LoL. Mind you he also slept through Jimi Hendrix set. :-) (c)IAO D+R np: R.E.M. "Reveal" From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu May 17 14:41:49 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:41:49 -0500 Subject: change of address Message-ID: Hello there folks, As most of you know, I'm moving. My new address (as of Saturday): 100 Forest Place, #C-4 Oak Park, IL 60301 (708) 383-0822 Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu May 17 15:01:43 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:01:43 -0400 Subject: HW:Questions Message-ID: On Thu, 17 May 2001 12:31:29 -0400, ejobson wrote: >Also there is a Hawklords Live 78 CD? IS htis Wierd 104 or something >different? The Hawklords Live CD on Dojo/Griffin is from a different show than Weird 104. There's some track overlap, and some differences (great version of "25 Years"!). For some reason it also includes the Sonic Assassins "Over The Top". -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Thu May 17 15:04:08 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:04:08 -0400 Subject: Acoustic SLOTERDIJK show, May 27th, Doylestown PA: plus more!!!! Message-ID: Hello friends..I want to invite you to spend part of your Memorial Day Weekend with SLOTERDIJK!!! Sloterdijk will be appearing at The Ratskeller, on Sunday May 27th in Doylestown Pennsylvania. This is an open mic event, with signup at 8:00 PM...Obviously we will be there then, but we can't give much of an estimate as to what time we will go on, because we have never played there before. In addition we will be trying to set up a full electric show at this venue, so if you come out this evening, you'll potentially be helping in the booking process. Also as a plug to two bands whom I enjoy and support, I invite you to come out for some excellent music at the following shows..I'll be there, so come out and support these great acts: Bevis Frond (acoustic) (Nick Saloman and Adrian Shaw) The Khyber, 56 South 2nd St. (215) 238-5888 Philadelphia, May 25th...This show will be cool, and it's a must for hawkfans of Adrian Shaw!!! SPECIAL INFO: The Brain Surgeons: July 1: The Pontiac, 304, South St, Philadelphia, PA (215) 925-4053 I just cannot say enough good things about this awesome rock-n-roll band.. The creation of Blue Oyster Cult's Al Bouchard, and the wonderful Deborah Frost, they will be bringing their "Helen Back" tour into the city for a rare visit and Sloterdijk is tentatively scheduled to be one of the opening acts that evening. Pennsylvanians, New Jerseyians, Hawkfans, Cultaphiles all rock-n-rollers unite!!!! Let's take The Pontiac by storm and make Philadelphia a "city on flame with rock-n-roll!!!! Call the club to generate a buzz!!!! Let them know you are coming, or ask questions...The more interest they perceive the better for the artist who will play there that night!!! Peace, MIke Burro (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu May 17 15:26:47 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:26:47 EDT Subject: OFF: A kinda "off" Space Does Not Care 5/12/01 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck 5/12 1.Deep Purple-- "The Mule" (Fireball, Warner Bros) 2.Helios Creed-- "Lactating Purple/Flying Through the Either" (Lactating Purple, Amphetamine Reptile Records) 3.Chrome-- "Creature Eternal" (Half Machine Lip Moves, Chrome Box--Cleopatra Records) 4.ST 37-- "Venus Plus X" (Glare, Electric Jug Records) 5.Dr. Know-- "What to Do/Boy's Life/Emergency Room" (The Original Group, Mystic Records) 6.Cosmic Couriers-- "Culture in a Small Room" (Other Places, Hypnotic Records) 7.Census of Hallucinations-- "Flight of the Cosmic Snot" (The 4th Dimension, Stone Premonitions Records) 8.Anubian Lights-- "Epsilon" (Naz Bar, Crippled Dick Hotwax Records) 9.Iron Bong-- "Death PAC" (Big Hits, Lost Records) 10.Dream Death-- "Back from the Dead/The Elder Race" (Journey into Mystery, New Renaissance Records) 11.Blue Oyster Cult-- "Transmaniacon MC" (ST'd, Columbia) 12.Magic Mushroom Band-- "Don't be Afraid" (Psychedelic Psauna comp, Delerium Records) 13.Nick Riff-- "Lost and Wild" (Psychedelic Psauna comp) 14.Faust-- "Jennifer" (IV, Caroline Records) 15.King Crimson-- "I Talk to the Wind" (In the Court of the Crimson King; dedicated to the blown-out ears of Hardy--sorry for all the thrash!) 16.Hawkwind-- "Treadmill" (Palace Springs, Roadracer Records) 17.The Ultimate Spinach-- "Ballad of the Hip Death Goddess" (ST'd, MGM) 18.Nikflung-- "Opa-Loka 2000" (Farflung w/Nik Turner @ Strange Daze '99, Strange Trips Records) thanks, Chuck From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 17 15:34:43 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:34:43 +0100 Subject: HW VOiceprint Message-ID: Is my name on the list? If not could you add me in? Enjoy Loch Sween - the weather is supposed to improve considerably! cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes > > As it happens, I've done precisely that on CDR, bringing in missing > tracks like Golden Void from the Sonic Assassins gig; Silver Machine and > Welcome from the Greasy Truckers gig; Time For Sale and Paradox from > 1976 and Waiting For the Man from Roundhouse 77. > I guess it wouldn't bankrupt Voiceprint/Hawkwind if I did the dozen sets > I have the boxes to do (I'd like to finish it just to have one copy > myself anyway). So if eleven other diehard kollectors are interested > then let me know. For reasons of avoiding expensive debates with > lawyers, I'd have to restrict this to people who legally own official > copies of either the weird tapes or the weird CD's as it'd be illegal > for me to provide a backup service othewise :-) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu May 17 16:01:55 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:01:55 -0400 Subject: HW: Spacebrock & Weird 6 Message-ID: On Thu, 17 May 2001 08:39:39 -0500, Ken Alley wrote: >I also purchased the Weird cd's from my usual import supplier and ... >never got #6.My man said it was never released but from the discussions >here I assume it was released and sold out.Is this correct? Yes. >Why? Probably because it's the only volume in the Weird series with Lemmy on it. I would certainly expect the CD with the most "classic" lineup on it to sell out first ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu May 17 16:10:10 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:10:10 -0400 Subject: BOC: Imaginos remaster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > In a message dated 05/17/2001 9:47:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: >> Fleshing out >> the album with the demos of the missing tunes along with some alt. versions >> of the album tracks would be the perfect way to finish up the remasters. Steven Tice replies: > Note that Gil Blanco County and Girl Love Made Blind were not demos, they > were actual, completed songs ready for inclusion on Imaginos. Half Life Time > is, however, a demo, and one I would love to see included with the Imaginos > remaster along with Gil Blanco and Girl. Gil Blanco is still fairly similar > to the original SFG version, but Girl is very different from the Brain > Surgeons version. I've heard very brief snips of these and I'm dying to hear them in their entirety. It seems the Imaginos album would have sounded much different if it were released as Al intended. I hope SONY comes through for us, but I expect we'll just end up getting the version of Astronomy with the Steven King intro and a couple live tunes from '88.... Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From starfield at SUPANET.COM Thu May 17 16:21:27 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 21:21:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Isle of Wight Message-ID: Who are these PINK FRIARIES? ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Regenbrecht To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:20 PM Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > >I mentioned Hawkwind at work today, and one of the guys said he'd seen them > >at isle of Wight festival playing on the back of a truck, as well as the > >Pink friaries ;-) > > > >I asked him what he thought he said: > > > >"Loud" > > > >LoL. Mind you he also slept through Jimi Hendrix set. > > :-) > > (c)IAO > > D+R > np: R.E.M. "Reveal" From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu May 17 16:28:20 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:28:20 -0400 Subject: BOC: More "info" from CMC Message-ID: From: http://www.sanctuaryrecordsgroup.com/cmc/boc.html > For the last 30+ years, Blue ?yster Cult has been following their own unique > path, with over 15 million records sold, and thousands of shows played to > millions of fans. Now they've returned with their latest opus, Curse Of The > Hidden Mirror, their most daring album yet. Hmmm, so this is their most daring album yet? You know, I'd really like to believe that.... > Blue ?yster Cult are: > Eric Bloom - vocals, guitars & keyboards > Buck Dharma - vocals, guitars & keyboards > Allen Lanier - guitars & keyboards > Danny Miranda - bass, vocals & keyboards > Bobby Rondinelli - drums [Track listing snipped] That's a lot of keyboards--I hope they don't play them all at once. ;-) Nice to see Danny with a vocal credit. It looks like CotHM will be much more of a band effort than HF. Less than three weeks to go. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Thu May 17 17:26:49 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 22:26:49 +0100 Subject: EBAY!!!!! Message-ID: Does any one else think that ebay artificially inflates the price of hawkwind merchandise like cd's, records and posters etc?? Cheers Colm McWilliams (frustrated that i keep getting out bid on the QS+C boxset!) ICQ: #62753543 From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu May 17 17:38:57 2001 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:38:57 EDT Subject: BOC: Imaginos remaster Message-ID: In a message dated 05/17/2001 4:07:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > I've heard very brief snips of these and I'm dying to hear them in their > entirety. It seems the Imaginos album would have sounded much different if > it were released as Al intended. I hope SONY comes through for us, but I > expect we'll just end up getting the version of Astronomy with the Steven > King intro and a couple live tunes from '88.... > > Brian That's what I fear as well, although Bolle told me that he's the one who chose the additional tracks for the upcoming remasters, which would make me more optimistic about Imaginos if he's still doing so when they get around to remastering it. I guess we'll just keep our fingers crossed. :-) SET From chrisr at TIAC.NET Thu May 17 18:19:49 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 18:19:49 -0400 Subject: HW: EBAY!!!!! Message-ID: I don't think ebay inflates the prices themselves. I think that there may a small amount of sellers that might have the price upped using someone elses user id and password. But I think that it has a lot to do with the fact that there are a lot more people on ebay then a couple of years ago and people in a bidding situation will sometimes pay more for something they want then they really should. (I know this from experience). Sometimes I feel it is my last chance to get something I want, and if I want it, I better be ready to pay for it. About 2.5 years ago when I started on ebay there were an average of 30 to 50 items at a time and I was getting great deals left and right. Today, there seems to be an average of 150 items on at once and a lot more competition. In the beginning looking for Porcupine Tree there were lengthy periods of time with no items at all. Now there is always 30 to 50 items on, and except for the most common stuff, you usually pay alot for the harder to get stuff. Chris colm mcwilliams wrote: > > Does any one else think that ebay artificially inflates the price of > hawkwind merchandise like cd's, records and posters etc?? > > Cheers > > Colm McWilliams (frustrated that i keep getting out bid on the QS+C boxset!) > ICQ: #62753543 From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 17 18:24:46 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:54:46 +0930 Subject: HW: Isle of Wight Message-ID: Cool web site@! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Regenbrecht To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 3:50 AM Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > Hi, > > >Does anyone know if theres a list of all the gig dates on any of the web > >pages? > > > You can find a list of all known gigs on my site in > the gigs section. > The site shouldn't be that slow anymore, cause I changed my provider. If > anyone still encounters problems, please notify me (I'm especially > interested in feedback from non-M$IE users). > > > >I mentioned Hawkwind at work today, and one of the guys said he'd seen them > >at isle of Wight festival playing on the back of a truck, as well as the > >Pink friaries ;-) > > > >I asked him what he thought he said: > > > >"Loud" > > > >LoL. Mind you he also slept through Jimi Hendrix set. > > :-) > > (c)IAO > > D+R > np: R.E.M. "Reveal" > From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Thu May 17 18:28:10 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:28:10 -0500 Subject: BAD seller on ebay, rips me off for Weird Tapes #3 & #6 Message-ID: I too have bought from "corked canuck" and although I eventually received my merchandise, there was a shockingly long wait before it arrived. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Hello! Sorry to hear about your eBay woes. > > >there's a seller on ebay that you > >should avoid. His ebay username is "corked-canuck" and he's a very > >despicable person. > > He has certainly chalked up a lot of negatives in the last > couple of weeks! Anyone with over 5% negative & neutral > feedback should definitely be approached with caution. > > >I see Marshall Wood was lucky to get his item from this seller, but please, > >consider that the exception. Do NOT attempt to get your Hawkwind stuff from > >"corked-canuck". > > I did get my CD (Weird #7), though I didn't insure it. I took > a while to pay while I waited for some of his other auctions > to end (we agreed to this immediately after the Weird #7 auction > closed). When I did pay, the delivery was pretty slow. I did > not choose to mention that in my feedback, since he had allowed > me to delay payment pending the results of other auctions. > > Despite my success, I would agree with Bryan on this. Get your > Hawkwind stuff from reputable folks like Gary at www.artist-shop.com, > Jerry at www.aural-innovations.com, or AndyG at www.cd-services.com. All are excellent and very helpful in resolving issues (though I > doubt you will have any). > > (Not to exclude other sellers, those are just 3 I have dealt with in > the last month or 2.) > > Does Mr.Corked-Canuck still have the date on his PC set back > several months (you can tell by the send date on his email) ? > Likely an attempt to extend a dated license...just a very > suspicious character all around. > > MWood > > NP: Alan Davey - _Chaos Delight_ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- > http://www.deja.com/ > From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu May 17 18:33:23 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 18:33:23 EDT Subject: OFF: Re: [BOC-L] HW: EBAY!!!!! Message-ID: It's funny you have this impression of ebay. I started buying/selling about 2-1/2 years ago on ebay myself and found that items went for a hell of a lot more then, I stopped selling full time spring 2000, because the market was too saturated, and wasn't making squat for the same items I was raking in on a year previous. I guess it depends on the items being sold, the rarest items will always command a higher amount, other items are hit or miss. And I do agree that there was a fraction of the Hawkwind material offered on ebay back then. bob In a message dated 5/17/01 3:20:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, chrisr at TIAC.NET writes: > About 2.5 years > ago when I started on ebay there were an average of 30 to 50 items at a > time and I was getting great deals left and right. Today, there seems to > be an average of 150 items on at once and a lot more competition. In the > beginning looking for Porcupine Tree there were lengthy periods of time > with no items at all. Now there is always 30 to 50 items on, and except > for the most common stuff, you usually pay alot for the harder to get > stuff. > Chris > colm mcwilliams wrote: Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu May 17 18:34:15 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 18:34:15 EDT Subject: BOC: Radio??? Message-ID: In a message dated 5/17/01 8:30:04 AM US Eastern Standard Time, nick at NETPHD.NET writes: > Have any of the new BOC tunes been released to radio? > I've not heard anything yet. > > The website sez that 'Pocket' will be the first single, released on May 22, I think. Joe From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Thu May 17 19:41:09 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (jean-charles moriaud) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:41:09 +0200 Subject: Concert in Paris in 95? Message-ID: I had sent a review of the B?C concert in Paris in 95 at Elys?e Montmartre to the list at that time. By chance, did someone still have a copy of this one. I deleted mine by error... I remeber there was a site with all B?C concerts and their reviews, but didn't find it. Thanks and best regards, JCMoriaud BOC Fan from France _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Thu May 17 21:01:25 2001 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Erebus) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 18:01:25 -0700 Subject: BOC: review of the HOB version of DFtR (ouch!) Message-ID: LOL :-). Maybe he should stay for an entire show. How many people here think this guy has heard any another BOC song, other than DFtR. . . . . . . Didn't think so. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bolts of Ungodly Vision" To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:14 AM Subject: BOC: review of the HOB version of DFtR (ouch!) > A hypnotic hit from the Summer of '76, "Don't Fear The Reaper" is one of the > greatest rock songs of all time, melding patented Blue Oyster Cult heaviness > with the euphoric jangle of vintage Byrds records. The song's perfection was > such that it proved almost impossible to duplicate in concert, as the slightly > rougher versions captured on such live documents as 1978's Some Enchanted > Evening and 1982's Extraterrestrial Live attest. But even those renditions are > light years better than this one, which was recorded live at Orlando's House of > Blues in May 2000. Part of the problem is an inept mix -- the backing vocals > are placed much higher than the lead, and the keyboards and cowbell grow > disproportionately loud at times -- but most of the blame has to be laid at the > feet of the band members themselves. The vocals are half-hearted and tuneless, > the drums occasionally come in at the wrong time, and the whole thing sounds > like the ham-fisted work of paunchy, middle-aged sanitation engineers trying to > recapture their lost youth by jamming B.O.C. tunes in a weekend cover band. > Buck Dharma's guitar licks are immediately identifiable, of course, but even > they sound tired and out of practice. Don't fear the Reaper, boys; call it > quits before the B.O.C. name loses every last vestige of its magic and > mystique. > > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. > http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ > > From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Thu May 17 20:01:33 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 19:01:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: Hawkwind and Ebay Message-ID: It's certainly true that the rarest and most desirable items will sell for a lot of money, but on the other hand, Ebay has opened up a vast resource for me to locate things I would never otherwise be able to find, such as the one-sided Sonic Attack single. Many of the items frequently sell for incredibly low prices, as well.... I've picked up any number of incredible rarities for not much money at all. John Majka jmajka2 at home.co From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu May 17 20:06:36 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:06:36 -0400 Subject: HW: Isle of Wight In-Reply-To: <001f01c0df0e$f434a180$321828d5@starfield>; from starfield@SUPANET.COM on Thu, May 17, 2001 at 09:21:27PM +0100 Message-ID: On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 09:21:27PM +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > Who are these PINK FRIARIES? gaye monks on acid :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Thu May 17 20:26:18 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:26:18 -0700 Subject: Do Not Panic Message-ID: Has anyone every heard of any plans to reprint Kris' book? I found a company that not only sells what looks like a thousand music books, but also publishes them as well (such as the new and truly excellent ELP bio.) The company is Helter Skelter, http://www.skelter.demon.co.uk , and I wonder if Kris & Dave talked with them if they'd be interested in reprinting the book. It'd be nice if there were thousands of nice new copies for all of us who don't have one... Anyway, check their catalog (though it's way overdue for an update), there's loads of stuff for every taste. scorch From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Thu May 17 21:15:16 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 21:15:16 -0400 Subject: OFF: Sloterdijk additional electric show 6/1 (Philadelphia) Message-ID: Sloterdijk will perform a full electric show at "Rockers" 358 Snyder Ave, Philadelphia, PA Date: Friday, June 1 There are two other acts of which we know nothing about, however we will go on second, roughly 10:00PM For complete info, directions etc, call the venue at: (215) 465-3830 a complete list of dates for the "Uranium Zone" tour, thus far can be accessed at the URL below under "calendar" www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri May 18 03:12:46 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 03:12:46 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bad Ebay traders Message-ID: You can ask Ebay to investigate bad traders at the following URL; http://pages.ebay.com/help/basics/select-RS.html They can remove bad traders if your complaint is upheld. Stuart The Hawkwind Shop http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=HAWKWIND&s=1151 From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri May 18 03:14:56 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 03:14:56 -0400 Subject: HW: Huw magazine article Message-ID: Huw is rather poignantly featured in this months Record Buyer (UK) magazine, in the "Where Are They Now Feature". Nothing we didn't know, but of the three pictures, the largest and most colourful one is of Nik! Never mind:-( Stuart The Hawkwind Shop http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=HAWKWIND&s=1151 From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 18 03:24:59 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:24:59 +0100 Subject: EBAY!!!!! In-Reply-To: <01a001c0df18$17b4ade0$bd71883e@gypo> Message-ID: In article <01a001c0df18$17b4ade0$bd71883e at gypo>, colm mcwilliams writes >Does any one else think that ebay artificially inflates the price of >hawkwind merchandise like cd's, records and posters etc?? not really, I think it's reflective of a truer value on a free market. I say this because the prices of an awful lot of other stuff I buy and sell, like comics and books, the prices are very soft. To a great extent, ebay has made out-of-print stuff WAY more available than ever before, so a truer pattern of values is now emerging. Consequentially a lot of stuff is cheaper, in my experience the majority, but some stuff like oooh, PXR 5 on CD, will get a better price than a fiver at the local Record and Tape Exchange. -- Jon From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Fri May 18 04:19:10 2001 From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juba N) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:19:10 -0000 Subject: HW VOiceprint Message-ID: Hi! Count me in as very interested. Juba >From: M Holmes >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW VOiceprint >Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:53:01 +0100 > >Doug Pearson writes: > > > > Since the "original" Weird CD's seem to be going out of print, perhaps >they > > could be redone more efficiently: > > * ALL the Hawkwind live '77 material (102/103/105) could be combined on >a > > single CD. > > * ALL the Hawklords live AND studio material (104/102) could be combined >on > > a single CD. > > * ALL the Dave Brock solo stuff (101/107) could be on a single CD. > > * The pre-Hawkwind and early Hawkwind stuff (106/108), minus the >already- > > available tracks, could be on a single CD. > > * Everything else (Watchfield, live '76, studio outtakes, Sonic >Assassins - > > 101/103/105/etc.) could fit on a fifth CD. > >As it happens, I've done precisely that on CDR, bringing in missing >tracks like Golden Void from the Sonic Assassins gig; Silver Machine and >Welcome from the Greasy Truckers gig; Time For Sale and Paradox from >1976 and Waiting For the Man from Roundhouse 77. > >This was for a project from way back before the band announced they'd >produce the weird tapes on CD (indeed discussion of the project here may >have prompted this :-) > >I even managed to get some fancy CD boxes which hold six CD's (they're >similar to the large double-CD boxes but hold two CD's on each "wing" >and two on the middle segment). Unfortunately these were expensive so I >only have a dozen of them. A cover had been produced by Kevin, though >no back cover; circlets, or tracklist work had been done when I >suspended the project upon the band's announcement. > >I guess it wouldn't bankrupt Voiceprint/Hawkwind if I did the dozen sets >I have the boxes to do (I'd like to finish it just to have one copy >myself anyway). So if eleven other diehard kollectors are interested >then let me know. For reasons of avoiding expensive debates with >lawyers, I'd have to restrict this to people who legally own official >copies of either the weird tapes or the weird CD's as it'd be illegal >for me to provide a backup service othewise :-) > >It should also be noted that I've been operating on Hughes Time as >regards Hawkwind projects lately, but maybe this would spur me on. > > >The tracklists were: > >CD1 EARLY YEARS 70-73 >--- ================= > >(Text of Festival Tracks) >W106 Hurry On Sundown 4 mins 42 >W106 We Do It 10 mins 18 >W108 Dreaming) >W108 Shouldn't Do That) segue 12 mins 03 (split 5.09) > >(Greasy Truckers) >W106 Master of the Universe) segue 11 mins 58 (split 4.47) >W106 Announcements 0 mins 40 >W106 Born To Go) >+ Silver Machine (Glastonbury) 4 mins 45 >+ Welcome (Glastonbury) 2 mins 33 > >(also) >W108 Space Is Deep 8 mins 15 + applause >W106 Earth Calling 3 mins 20 >W106 Jam 3 mins 17 >W108 Live and Let Live 3 mins 53 >W108 Etchanatay 3 mins 06 >W106 Make What You Can 6 mins 57 > ---------- >Total 75 mins 49 > ========== >------------------------------------------------------------------ >CD2 1975 - 1977 >--- =========== > >1975 > >(Watchfield) >W103 Cake Out 4 mins 33 Castle Masters Collection >W103 Circles 4 mins 20 >W103 Elements 4 mins 15 > >1976 > >W103 Slap It On De Table 0 mins 50 >W105a Paranoia 1 mins 02 >W105b Back on the Streets) >W105b Chronoglide Skyway) segue 8 mins 50 (split 3.42) >+ Time For Sale (Atom76) 8 mins 51 >+ Paradox (Atom76) 4 mins 20 > >Roundhouse 1977 > >W105b Brainstorm) >W105b Wind of Change) segue 11 mins 30 (split 7.17) >W105b Assassins of Allah) >W105b Forge of Vulcan) segue 9 mins 40 (split 7.15+applause) >W105b Steppenwolf 9 mins 25 >+ Waiting for My Man (CoF) 5 mins 21 >W105a Advert 1 mins 20 > ---------- >Total 74 mins 17 > ========== >------------------------------------------------------------------ >CD3 Live '77 >--- ======== > >Stonehenge > >W102 Quark Strangeness and Charm ) Anthology >W102 Master of the Universe ) segue 9 mins 18 (split times 2.30 >W102 The Future ) 4.40 2.04) >W102 Spirit of the Age ) Best of F&R >W102 Sonic Attack) segue 11 mins 00 (split times 5.40 5.20) >W103 High Rise 5 mins 30 >W103 Damnation Alley) >W103 Uncle Sam/Iron Dream) segue 14 mins 15 (split times.7.40 12.40) >W103 Robot 7 mins 10 > >Sonic Assassins > >W101 Over the Top 7 mins 37 >W101 Magnu/Angels of Death 5 mins >W101 FreeFall 7 mins 35 >W101 Death Trap 4 mins > + Golden Void (F&R) 4 mins 33 > ---------- >Total 75 mins 59 >------------------------------------------------------------------ >CD4 HAWKLORDS >--- ========= > >Hawklords Live 1978 > >W104 Death Trap) >W104 Micro Man) segue 9 mins 50 (split >6.10+applause 3.40) >W104 Spirit of the Age) >W104 Urbane Guerilla) segue 14 mins 26 (split >9.10+applause 5.16) >W104 Steppenwolf) >W104 Free Fall) segue 22 mins 30 (split 8.50 >5.20+applause) >W104 Uncle Sam/Iron Dream) > >Hawklords Studio ?1978 > >W102 Valium 10 7 mins 50 Mighty Hawkwind Classics >W102 Douglas In The Jungle 6 mins 45 Castle Masters >Collection >W102 Time of 5 mins 25 >W105a Intro + Flying Doctor 6 mins 05 F&R III > ---------- > Total 72 mins 59 > ========== >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >CD5 Rockin' With Brock >--- ================== > >W108 Roll Em Pete) >W108 Come On) segue 4 mins 45 (split 2.19) >W108 Dealing With The Devil 2 mins 07 Castle Masters >W108 Bring It On Home 3 mins 10 Anthology >W106 Came Home 2 mins 05 Castle Masters >W108 Down On Her Knees 5 mins 41 >W107 Streets of Fear 4 mins 15 >W107 1st Landing On Medusa 2 mins 56 >W107 Touchdown 1 min 45 >W107 Winter of Discontent 2 mins 20 >W107 Choose Your Masks 5 mins 25 >W107 Looking In The Future 3 mins 31 >W107 Disintegration (not listed)) >W107 Space Travellers 2 mins 31 >W107 Circles ) 7 mins 11 >W107 Speed of Light 5 mins 20 >W107 Bombed Out 3 mins 51 >W101 Nuclear Toy 4 mins 15 >W101 The War 4 mins 50 >W101 The Dream) >W101 Assassination) segue 4 mins 55 >W101 The Dream2) >W101 Satellite 2 mins 40 Church of Hawkwind >W105 Where Are They Now 1 mins 55 > ---------- >Total 75 mins 28 > ========== _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri May 18 04:24:33 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:24:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Isle of Wight Message-ID: Are you MAD man!!???!??!?!?!? The Pink Fairies are one of the greatest bands EVER!!!! Their older stuff is better.......................but they still kick ass!!!! Get one of their older albums.....trust me, you'll love it! Layla. >>> starfield at SUPANET.COM 05/17/01 09:21pm >>> Who are these PINK FRIARIES? ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Regenbrecht To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:20 PM Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > >I mentioned Hawkwind at work today, and one of the guys said he'd seen them > >at isle of Wight festival playing on the back of a truck, as well as the > >Pink friaries ;-) > > > >I asked him what he thought he said: > > > >"Loud" > > > >LoL. Mind you he also slept through Jimi Hendrix set. > > :-) > > (c)IAO > > D+R > np: R.E.M. "Reveal" From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri May 18 04:24:41 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 03:24:41 -0500 Subject: HW: Isle of Wight Message-ID: THATS RIGHT!!!! 2nd only to the almighty HAWKWIND!!!! STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 3:25 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight Are you MAD man!!???!??!?!?!? The Pink Fairies are one of the greatest bands EVER!!!! Their older stuff is better.......................but they still kick ass!!!! Get one of their older albums.....trust me, you'll love it! Layla. >>> starfield at SUPANET.COM 05/17/01 09:21pm >>> Who are these PINK FRIARIES? ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Regenbrecht To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:20 PM Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > >I mentioned Hawkwind at work today, and one of the guys said he'd seen them > >at isle of Wight festival playing on the back of a truck, as well as the > >Pink friaries ;-) > > > >I asked him what he thought he said: > > > >"Loud" > > > >LoL. Mind you he also slept through Jimi Hendrix set. > > :-) > > (c)IAO > > D+R > np: R.E.M. "Reveal" From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Fri May 18 05:06:45 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:06:45 +0200 Subject: HW VOiceprint In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Hi! > >Count me in as very interested. > >Juba hi me too, i'm interested in this release. regards andre >>From: M Holmes >>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >>Subject: Re: HW VOiceprint >>Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:53:01 +0100 >> >>Doug Pearson writes: >> > >> > Since the "original" Weird CD's seem to be going out of print, perhaps >>they >> > could be redone more efficiently: >> > * ALL the Hawkwind live '77 material (102/103/105) could be combined on >>a >> > single CD. >> > * ALL the Hawklords live AND studio material (104/102) could be combined >>on >> > a single CD. >> > * ALL the Dave Brock solo stuff (101/107) could be on a single CD. >> > * The pre-Hawkwind and early Hawkwind stuff (106/108), minus the >>already- >> > available tracks, could be on a single CD. >> > * Everything else (Watchfield, live '76, studio outtakes, Sonic >>Assassins - >> > 101/103/105/etc.) could fit on a fifth CD. >> >>As it happens, I've done precisely that on CDR, bringing in missing >>tracks like Golden Void from the Sonic Assassins gig; Silver Machine and >>Welcome from the Greasy Truckers gig; Time For Sale and Paradox from >>1976 and Waiting For the Man from Roundhouse 77. >> >>This was for a project from way back before the band announced they'd >>produce the weird tapes on CD (indeed discussion of the project here may >>have prompted this :-) >> >>I even managed to get some fancy CD boxes which hold six CD's (they're >>similar to the large double-CD boxes but hold two CD's on each "wing" >>and two on the middle segment). Unfortunately these were expensive so I >>only have a dozen of them. A cover had been produced by Kevin, though >>no back cover; circlets, or tracklist work had been done when I >>suspended the project upon the band's announcement. >> >>I guess it wouldn't bankrupt Voiceprint/Hawkwind if I did the dozen sets >>I have the boxes to do (I'd like to finish it just to have one copy >>myself anyway). So if eleven other diehard kollectors are interested >>then let me know. For reasons of avoiding expensive debates with >>lawyers, I'd have to restrict this to people who legally own official >>copies of either the weird tapes or the weird CD's as it'd be illegal >>for me to provide a backup service othewise :-) >> >>It should also be noted that I've been operating on Hughes Time as >>regards Hawkwind projects lately, but maybe this would spur me on. >> >> >>The tracklists were: >> >>CD1 EARLY YEARS 70-73 >>--- ================= >> >>(Text of Festival Tracks) >>W106 Hurry On Sundown 4 mins 42 >>W106 We Do It 10 mins 18 >>W108 Dreaming) >>W108 Shouldn't Do That) segue 12 mins 03 (split 5.09) >> >>(Greasy Truckers) >>W106 Master of the Universe) segue 11 mins 58 (split 4.47) >>W106 Announcements 0 mins 40 >>W106 Born To Go) >>+ Silver Machine (Glastonbury) 4 mins 45 >>+ Welcome (Glastonbury) 2 mins 33 >> >>(also) >>W108 Space Is Deep 8 mins 15 + applause >>W106 Earth Calling 3 mins 20 >>W106 Jam 3 mins 17 >>W108 Live and Let Live 3 mins 53 >>W108 Etchanatay 3 mins 06 >>W106 Make What You Can 6 mins 57 >> ---------- >>Total 75 mins 49 >> ========== >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >>CD2 1975 - 1977 >>--- =========== >> >>1975 >> >>(Watchfield) >>W103 Cake Out 4 mins 33 Castle Masters Collection >>W103 Circles 4 mins 20 >>W103 Elements 4 mins 15 >> >>1976 >> >>W103 Slap It On De Table 0 mins 50 >>W105a Paranoia 1 mins 02 >>W105b Back on the Streets) >>W105b Chronoglide Skyway) segue 8 mins 50 (split 3.42) >>+ Time For Sale (Atom76) 8 mins 51 >>+ Paradox (Atom76) 4 mins 20 >> >>Roundhouse 1977 >> >>W105b Brainstorm) >>W105b Wind of Change) segue 11 mins 30 (split 7.17) >>W105b Assassins of Allah) >>W105b Forge of Vulcan) segue 9 mins 40 (split 7.15+applause) >>W105b Steppenwolf 9 mins 25 >>+ Waiting for My Man (CoF) 5 mins 21 >>W105a Advert 1 mins 20 >> ---------- >>Total 74 mins 17 >> ========== >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >>CD3 Live '77 >>--- ======== >> >>Stonehenge >> >>W102 Quark Strangeness and Charm ) Anthology >>W102 Master of the Universe ) segue 9 mins 18 (split times 2.30 >>W102 The Future ) 4.40 2.04) >>W102 Spirit of the Age ) Best of F&R >>W102 Sonic Attack) segue 11 mins 00 (split times 5.40 5.20) >>W103 High Rise 5 mins 30 >>W103 Damnation Alley) >>W103 Uncle Sam/Iron Dream) segue 14 mins 15 (split times.7.40 12.40) >>W103 Robot 7 mins 10 >> >>Sonic Assassins >> >>W101 Over the Top 7 mins 37 >>W101 Magnu/Angels of Death 5 mins >>W101 FreeFall 7 mins 35 >>W101 Death Trap 4 mins >> + Golden Void (F&R) 4 mins 33 >> ---------- >>Total 75 mins 59 >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >>CD4 HAWKLORDS >>--- ========= >> >>Hawklords Live 1978 >> >>W104 Death Trap) >>W104 Micro Man) segue 9 mins 50 (split >>6.10+applause 3.40) >>W104 Spirit of the Age) >>W104 Urbane Guerilla) segue 14 mins 26 (split >>9.10+applause 5.16) >>W104 Steppenwolf) >>W104 Free Fall) segue 22 mins 30 (split 8.50 >>5.20+applause) >>W104 Uncle Sam/Iron Dream) >> >>Hawklords Studio ?1978 >> >>W102 Valium 10 7 mins 50 Mighty Hawkwind Classics >>W102 Douglas In The Jungle 6 mins 45 Castle Masters >>Collection >>W102 Time of 5 mins 25 >>W105a Intro + Flying Doctor 6 mins 05 F&R III >> ---------- >> Total 72 mins 59 >> ========== >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>CD5 Rockin' With Brock >>--- ================== >> >>W108 Roll Em Pete) >>W108 Come On) segue 4 mins 45 (split 2.19) >>W108 Dealing With The Devil 2 mins 07 Castle Masters >>W108 Bring It On Home 3 mins 10 Anthology >>W106 Came Home 2 mins 05 Castle Masters >>W108 Down On Her Knees 5 mins 41 >>W107 Streets of Fear 4 mins 15 >>W107 1st Landing On Medusa 2 mins 56 >>W107 Touchdown 1 min 45 >>W107 Winter of Discontent 2 mins 20 >>W107 Choose Your Masks 5 mins 25 >>W107 Looking In The Future 3 mins 31 >>W107 Disintegration (not listed)) >>W107 Space Travellers 2 mins 31 >>W107 Circles ) 7 mins 11 >>W107 Speed of Light 5 mins 20 >>W107 Bombed Out 3 mins 51 >>W101 Nuclear Toy 4 mins 15 >>W101 The War 4 mins 50 >>W101 The Dream) >>W101 Assassination) segue 4 mins 55 >>W101 The Dream2) >>W101 Satellite 2 mins 40 Church of Hawkwind >>W105 Where Are They Now 1 mins 55 >> ---------- >>Total 75 mins 28 >> ========== > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri May 18 06:01:38 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:01:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Isle of Wight Message-ID: Denis Regenbrecht said: playing on the back of a truck, as well as the > >Pink friaries ;-) -Yeah, but what does a Pink Friaries look like. Chips I suppose....:-> Sam Oh yeah whilst we're on this. I remember when I was about 13 (all those years ago) and I told my step-dad I'd heard this great band and I was going to see them - Hawkwind. First thing he said was 'Don't tell your mother' then he told me about when he was much younger and he'd seen Pink Fairies and Hawkwind play at some venue in North London - he was a roadie at the time. There was a big after gig party and he went but as they were handing round more acid then beer he made his excuses and left. It didn't hit me fully then but once it did I was soooooo jealous. It could have been no later than 1970 and possibly earlier - jammy git!! -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Lindas [mailto:Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM] Sent: 18 May 2001 09:25 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight THATS RIGHT!!!! 2nd only to the almighty HAWKWIND!!!! STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 3:25 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight Are you MAD man!!???!??!?!?!? The Pink Fairies are one of the greatest bands EVER!!!! Their older stuff is better.......................but they still kick ass!!!! Get one of their older albums.....trust me, you'll love it! Layla. >>> starfield at SUPANET.COM 05/17/01 09:21pm >>> Who are these PINK FRIARIES? ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Regenbrecht To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:20 PM Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > >I mentioned Hawkwind at work today, and one of the guys said he'd seen them > >at isle of Wight festival playing on the back of a truck, as well as the > >Pink friaries ;-) > > > >I asked him what he thought he said: > > > >"Loud" > > > >LoL. Mind you he also slept through Jimi Hendrix set. > > :-) > > (c)IAO > > D+R > np: R.E.M. "Reveal" *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri May 18 06:27:18 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:27:18 +0100 Subject: Weird tape backups Message-ID: Just a quick message to all those who've expressed interest so far. I've added you to the list (I don't have 11 yet). I'll restart the project in a couple of weeks and will mail you privately at that point. It'd be worth considering what art to use for the back cover and roundels. Kevin had already kindly provided some for the front cover. Cheers FoFP From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri May 18 06:44:00 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:44:00 +0800 Subject: Weird tape backups Message-ID: You can add me. Thanks. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 6:27 PM Subject: Weird tape backups > Just a quick message to all those who've expressed interest so far. I've > added you to the list (I don't have 11 yet). I'll restart the project in > a couple of weeks and will mail you privately at that point. It'd be > worth considering what art to use for the back cover and roundels. Kevin > had already kindly provided some for the front cover. > > Cheers > > FoFP > From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri May 18 08:20:08 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (MSH) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:20:08 -0400 Subject: BOC: Tour sched from Melne Message-ID: May 2001 18 - Dallas, TX - Smirnoff Music Center 19 - Houston, TX - Woodlands 20 - Selma, TX - Verizon Amphitheatre 25 - Reno, NV - Hilton Amphitheatre 26 - Stateline, NV - Caesar's Tahoe 27 - Stateline, NV - Caesar's Tahoe 28 - Clarkston, MI - DTE Energy Music Theatre (Pine Knob) June 2001 1 - Antioch, CA - Contra Costa Fair 2 shows 2 - Roseburg, OR - Douglas Center 2 shows 8 - Tulsa, OK - River Parks West Festival 12 - Burlington, IA - Burlington Steamboat Days 16 - Mears, MI - Val du Lakes Bike Rally 22 - Benton Harbor, MI - Lake Michigan College 23 - Maplewood, MN - Rock 29 - Mankato, MN - Hooligan's 30 - Humboldt, IA - Joe Sheldon Park biker rally July 2001 13 - McHenry, IL - Fiesta Days Festival 14 - Sarnia, Ontario - Festival 19 - Waukesha, WI - Waukesha County Fair 21 - Montgomery City, MO - Montgomery Co. Fair 22 - Cadott, WI - Chippewa Valley Rock Fest 27 - Alpine, WY - Bullmoose Tavern 28 - Signal Hill, CA - Green on the Hill August 2001 2 - Watertown, WI - Riverfest 3 - Sheboyagan, WI - Bratwurst Festival 4 - Chicago, IL - Navy Pier 9 - Ogden, UT - Weber County Fair 10 - Three Forks, MT - Rockin' the Rivers 18 - Dayton, OH - Rib Fest 25 - Green Bay, WI - Oneida Casino 31 - Glendale, WI - festival at a brewery September 2001 1 - Ludington, MI 22 - Ft. Smith, AR - Fair _______________________ Michael S. Habiby VP Sales and Marketing the CableShoppe, inc. One Prospect Ave. Albany, NY 12206 (800) 386-2300 (518) 489-0269 - fax Mike.Habiby at cableshoppe.com ________________________ "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill From hawkswede at TELIA.COM Fri May 18 09:31:00 2001 From: hawkswede at TELIA.COM (Hawkswede) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:31:00 +0200 Subject: HW VOiceprint Message-ID: Hi Juba and Mike! You can count me in as well. Thanks Henrik ( A Hawk in the outskirts of the world) > Hi! > > Count me in as very interested. > > Juba > > > >From: M Holmes > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: HW VOiceprint > >Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:53:01 +0100 > > > >Doug Pearson writes: > > > > > > Since the "original" Weird CD's seem to be going out of print, perhaps > >they > > > could be redone more efficiently: > > > * ALL the Hawkwind live '77 material (102/103/105) could be combined on > >a > > > single CD. > > > * ALL the Hawklords live AND studio material (104/102) could be combined > >on > > > a single CD. > > > * ALL the Dave Brock solo stuff (101/107) could be on a single CD. > > > * The pre-Hawkwind and early Hawkwind stuff (106/108), minus the > >already- > > > available tracks, could be on a single CD. > > > * Everything else (Watchfield, live '76, studio outtakes, Sonic > >Assassins - > > > 101/103/105/etc.) could fit on a fifth CD. > > > >As it happens, I've done precisely that on CDR, bringing in missing > >tracks like Golden Void from the Sonic Assassins gig; Silver Machine and > >Welcome from the Greasy Truckers gig; Time For Sale and Paradox from > >1976 and Waiting For the Man from Roundhouse 77. > > > >This was for a project from way back before the band announced they'd > >produce the weird tapes on CD (indeed discussion of the project here may > >have prompted this :-) > > > >I even managed to get some fancy CD boxes which hold six CD's (they're > >similar to the large double-CD boxes but hold two CD's on each "wing" > >and two on the middle segment). Unfortunately these were expensive so I > >only have a dozen of them. A cover had been produced by Kevin, though > >no back cover; circlets, or tracklist work had been done when I > >suspended the project upon the band's announcement. > > > >I guess it wouldn't bankrupt Voiceprint/Hawkwind if I did the dozen sets > >I have the boxes to do (I'd like to finish it just to have one copy > >myself anyway). So if eleven other diehard kollectors are interested > >then let me know. For reasons of avoiding expensive debates with > >lawyers, I'd have to restrict this to people who legally own official > >copies of either the weird tapes or the weird CD's as it'd be illegal > >for me to provide a backup service othewise :-) > > > >It should also be noted that I've been operating on Hughes Time as > >regards Hawkwind projects lately, but maybe this would spur me on. > > > > > >The tracklists were: > > > >CD1 EARLY YEARS 70-73 > >--- ================= > > > >(Text of Festival Tracks) > >W106 Hurry On Sundown 4 mins 42 > >W106 We Do It 10 mins 18 > >W108 Dreaming) > >W108 Shouldn't Do That) segue 12 mins 03 (split 5.09) > > > >(Greasy Truckers) > >W106 Master of the Universe) segue 11 mins 58 (split 4.47) > >W106 Announcements 0 mins 40 > >W106 Born To Go) > >+ Silver Machine (Glastonbury) 4 mins 45 > >+ Welcome (Glastonbury) 2 mins 33 > > > >(also) > >W108 Space Is Deep 8 mins 15 + applause > >W106 Earth Calling 3 mins 20 > >W106 Jam 3 mins 17 > >W108 Live and Let Live 3 mins 53 > >W108 Etchanatay 3 mins 06 > >W106 Make What You Can 6 mins 57 > > ---------- > >Total 75 mins 49 > > ========== > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >CD2 1975 - 1977 > >--- =========== > > > >1975 > > > >(Watchfield) > >W103 Cake Out 4 mins 33 Castle Masters Collection > >W103 Circles 4 mins 20 > >W103 Elements 4 mins 15 > > > >1976 > > > >W103 Slap It On De Table 0 mins 50 > >W105a Paranoia 1 mins 02 > >W105b Back on the Streets) > >W105b Chronoglide Skyway) segue 8 mins 50 (split 3.42) > >+ Time For Sale (Atom76) 8 mins 51 > >+ Paradox (Atom76) 4 mins 20 > > > >Roundhouse 1977 > > > >W105b Brainstorm) > >W105b Wind of Change) segue 11 mins 30 (split 7.17) > >W105b Assassins of Allah) > >W105b Forge of Vulcan) segue 9 mins 40 (split 7.15+applause) > >W105b Steppenwolf 9 mins 25 > >+ Waiting for My Man (CoF) 5 mins 21 > >W105a Advert 1 mins 20 > > ---------- > >Total 74 mins 17 > > ========== > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >CD3 Live '77 > >--- ======== > > > >Stonehenge > > > >W102 Quark Strangeness and Charm ) Anthology > >W102 Master of the Universe ) segue 9 mins 18 (split times 2.30 > >W102 The Future ) 4.40 2.04) > >W102 Spirit of the Age ) Best of F&R > >W102 Sonic Attack) segue 11 mins 00 (split times 5.40 5.20) > >W103 High Rise 5 mins 30 > >W103 Damnation Alley) > >W103 Uncle Sam/Iron Dream) segue 14 mins 15 (split times.7.40 12.40) > >W103 Robot 7 mins 10 > > > >Sonic Assassins > > > >W101 Over the Top 7 mins 37 > >W101 Magnu/Angels of Death 5 mins > >W101 FreeFall 7 mins 35 > >W101 Death Trap 4 mins > > + Golden Void (F&R) 4 mins 33 > > ---------- > >Total 75 mins 59 > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >CD4 HAWKLORDS > >--- ========= > > > >Hawklords Live 1978 > > > >W104 Death Trap) > >W104 Micro Man) segue 9 mins 50 (split > >6.10+applause 3.40) > >W104 Spirit of the Age) > >W104 Urbane Guerilla) segue 14 mins 26 (split > >9.10+applause 5.16) > >W104 Steppenwolf) > >W104 Free Fall) segue 22 mins 30 (split 8.50 > >5.20+applause) > >W104 Uncle Sam/Iron Dream) > > > >Hawklords Studio ?1978 > > > >W102 Valium 10 7 mins 50 Mighty Hawkwind Classics > >W102 Douglas In The Jungle 6 mins 45 Castle Masters > >Collection > >W102 Time of 5 mins 25 > >W105a Intro + Flying Doctor 6 mins 05 F&R III > > ---------- > > Total 72 mins 59 > > ========== > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >CD5 Rockin' With Brock > >--- ================== > > > >W108 Roll Em Pete) > >W108 Come On) segue 4 mins 45 (split 2.19) > >W108 Dealing With The Devil 2 mins 07 Castle Masters > >W108 Bring It On Home 3 mins 10 Anthology > >W106 Came Home 2 mins 05 Castle Masters > >W108 Down On Her Knees 5 mins 41 > >W107 Streets of Fear 4 mins 15 > >W107 1st Landing On Medusa 2 mins 56 > >W107 Touchdown 1 min 45 > >W107 Winter of Discontent 2 mins 20 > >W107 Choose Your Masks 5 mins 25 > >W107 Looking In The Future 3 mins 31 > >W107 Disintegration (not listed)) > >W107 Space Travellers 2 mins 31 > >W107 Circles ) 7 mins 11 > >W107 Speed of Light 5 mins 20 > >W107 Bombed Out 3 mins 51 > >W101 Nuclear Toy 4 mins 15 > >W101 The War 4 mins 50 > >W101 The Dream) > >W101 Assassination) segue 4 mins 55 > >W101 The Dream2) > >W101 Satellite 2 mins 40 Church of Hawkwind > >W105 Where Are They Now 1 mins 55 > > ---------- > >Total 75 mins 28 > > ========== > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri May 18 10:28:50 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:28:50 +0800 Subject: HW VOiceprint Message-ID: Hi There I love the idea, & am very interested as well! William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hawkswede" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:31 PM Subject: Re: HW VOiceprint > Hi Juba and Mike! > > You can count me in as well. > > Thanks > > Henrik ( A Hawk in the outskirts of the world) > > > Hi! > > > > Count me in as very interested. > > > > Juba > > > > > > >From: M Holmes > > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > >Subject: Re: HW VOiceprint > > >Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:53:01 +0100 > > > > > >Doug Pearson writes: > > > > > > > > Since the "original" Weird CD's seem to be going out of print, perhaps > > >they > > > > could be redone more efficiently: > > > > * ALL the Hawkwind live '77 material (102/103/105) could be combined on > > >a > > > > single CD. > > > > * ALL the Hawklords live AND studio material (104/102) could be combined > > >on > > > > a single CD. > > > > * ALL the Dave Brock solo stuff (101/107) could be on a single CD. > > > > * The pre-Hawkwind and early Hawkwind stuff (106/108), minus the > > >already- > > > > available tracks, could be on a single CD. > > > > * Everything else (Watchfield, live '76, studio outtakes, Sonic > > >Assassins - > > > > 101/103/105/etc.) could fit on a fifth CD. > > > > > >As it happens, I've done precisely that on CDR, bringing in missing > > >tracks like Golden Void from the Sonic Assassins gig; Silver Machine and > > >Welcome from the Greasy Truckers gig; Time For Sale and Paradox from > > >1976 and Waiting For the Man from Roundhouse 77. > > > > > >This was for a project from way back before the band announced they'd > > >produce the weird tapes on CD (indeed discussion of the project here may > > >have prompted this :-) > > > > > >I even managed to get some fancy CD boxes which hold six CD's (they're > > >similar to the large double-CD boxes but hold two CD's on each "wing" > > >and two on the middle segment). Unfortunately these were expensive so I > > >only have a dozen of them. A cover had been produced by Kevin, though > > >no back cover; circlets, or tracklist work had been done when I > > >suspended the project upon the band's announcement. > > > > > >I guess it wouldn't bankrupt Voiceprint/Hawkwind if I did the dozen sets > > >I have the boxes to do (I'd like to finish it just to have one copy > > >myself anyway). So if eleven other diehard kollectors are interested > > >then let me know. For reasons of avoiding expensive debates with > > >lawyers, I'd have to restrict this to people who legally own official > > >copies of either the weird tapes or the weird CD's as it'd be illegal > > >for me to provide a backup service othewise :-) > > > > > >It should also be noted that I've been operating on Hughes Time as > > >regards Hawkwind projects lately, but maybe this would spur me on. > > > > > > > > >The tracklists were: > > > > > >CD1 EARLY YEARS 70-73 > > >--- ================= > > > > > >(Text of Festival Tracks) > > >W106 Hurry On Sundown 4 mins 42 > > >W106 We Do It 10 mins 18 > > >W108 Dreaming) > > >W108 Shouldn't Do That) segue 12 mins 03 (split 5.09) > > > > > >(Greasy Truckers) > > >W106 Master of the Universe) segue 11 mins 58 (split 4.47) > > >W106 Announcements 0 mins 40 > > >W106 Born To Go) > > >+ Silver Machine (Glastonbury) 4 mins 45 > > >+ Welcome (Glastonbury) 2 mins 33 > > > > > >(also) > > >W108 Space Is Deep 8 mins 15 + applause > > >W106 Earth Calling 3 mins 20 > > >W106 Jam 3 mins 17 > > >W108 Live and Let Live 3 mins 53 > > >W108 Etchanatay 3 mins 06 > > >W106 Make What You Can 6 mins 57 > > > ---------- > > >Total 75 mins 49 > > > ========== > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >CD2 1975 - 1977 > > >--- =========== > > > > > >1975 > > > > > >(Watchfield) > > >W103 Cake Out 4 mins 33 Castle Masters Collection > > >W103 Circles 4 mins 20 > > >W103 Elements 4 mins 15 > > > > > >1976 > > > > > >W103 Slap It On De Table 0 mins 50 > > >W105a Paranoia 1 mins 02 > > >W105b Back on the Streets) > > >W105b Chronoglide Skyway) segue 8 mins 50 (split 3.42) > > >+ Time For Sale (Atom76) 8 mins 51 > > >+ Paradox (Atom76) 4 mins 20 > > > > > >Roundhouse 1977 > > > > > >W105b Brainstorm) > > >W105b Wind of Change) segue 11 mins 30 (split 7.17) > > >W105b Assassins of Allah) > > >W105b Forge of Vulcan) segue 9 mins 40 (split 7.15+applause) > > >W105b Steppenwolf 9 mins 25 > > >+ Waiting for My Man (CoF) 5 mins 21 > > >W105a Advert 1 mins 20 > > > ---------- > > >Total 74 mins 17 > > > ========== > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >CD3 Live '77 > > >--- ======== > > > > > >Stonehenge > > > > > >W102 Quark Strangeness and Charm ) Anthology > > >W102 Master of the Universe ) segue 9 mins 18 (split times 2.30 > > >W102 The Future ) 4.40 2.04) > > >W102 Spirit of the Age ) Best of F&R > > >W102 Sonic Attack) segue 11 mins 00 (split times 5.40 5.20) > > >W103 High Rise 5 mins 30 > > >W103 Damnation Alley) > > >W103 Uncle Sam/Iron Dream) segue 14 mins 15 (split times.7.40 12.40) > > >W103 Robot 7 mins 10 > > > > > >Sonic Assassins > > > > > >W101 Over the Top 7 mins 37 > > >W101 Magnu/Angels of Death 5 mins > > >W101 FreeFall 7 mins 35 > > >W101 Death Trap 4 mins > > > + Golden Void (F&R) 4 mins 33 > > > ---------- > > >Total 75 mins 59 > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >CD4 HAWKLORDS > > >--- ========= > > > > > >Hawklords Live 1978 > > > > > >W104 Death Trap) > > >W104 Micro Man) segue 9 mins 50 (split > > >6.10+applause 3.40) > > >W104 Spirit of the Age) > > >W104 Urbane Guerilla) segue 14 mins 26 (split > > >9.10+applause 5.16) > > >W104 Steppenwolf) > > >W104 Free Fall) segue 22 mins 30 (split 8.50 > > >5.20+applause) > > >W104 Uncle Sam/Iron Dream) > > > > > >Hawklords Studio ?1978 > > > > > >W102 Valium 10 7 mins 50 Mighty Hawkwind Classics > > >W102 Douglas In The Jungle 6 mins 45 Castle Masters > > >Collection > > >W102 Time of 5 mins 25 > > >W105a Intro + Flying Doctor 6 mins 05 F&R III > > > ---------- > > > Total 72 mins 59 > > > ========== > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > >CD5 Rockin' With Brock > > >--- ================== > > > > > >W108 Roll Em Pete) > > >W108 Come On) segue 4 mins 45 (split 2.19) > > >W108 Dealing With The Devil 2 mins 07 Castle Masters > > >W108 Bring It On Home 3 mins 10 Anthology > > >W106 Came Home 2 mins 05 Castle Masters > > >W108 Down On Her Knees 5 mins 41 > > >W107 Streets of Fear 4 mins 15 > > >W107 1st Landing On Medusa 2 mins 56 > > >W107 Touchdown 1 min 45 > > >W107 Winter of Discontent 2 mins 20 > > >W107 Choose Your Masks 5 mins 25 > > >W107 Looking In The Future 3 mins 31 > > >W107 Disintegration (not listed)) > > >W107 Space Travellers 2 mins 31 > > >W107 Circles ) 7 mins 11 > > >W107 Speed of Light 5 mins 20 > > >W107 Bombed Out 3 mins 51 > > >W101 Nuclear Toy 4 mins 15 > > >W101 The War 4 mins 50 > > >W101 The Dream) > > >W101 Assassination) segue 4 mins 55 > > >W101 The Dream2) > > >W101 Satellite 2 mins 40 Church of Hawkwind > > >W105 Where Are They Now 1 mins 55 > > > ---------- > > >Total 75 mins 28 > > > ========== > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Fri May 18 11:48:22 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:48:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Kris's Book Message-ID: Hmmm, As I work for a Digital Printing company I wonder if I could provide a quote for the job, just a thought... ----------Original---------- Has anyone every heard of any plans to reprint Kris' book? I found a company that not only sells what looks like a thousand music books, but also publishes them as well (such as the new and truly excellent ELP bio.) The company is Helter Skelter, http://www.skelter.demon.co.uk , and I wonder if Kris & Dave talked with them if they'd be interested in reprinting the book. It'd be nice if there were thousands of nice new copies for all of us who don't have one... Anyway, check their catalog (though it's way overdue for an update), there's loads of stuff for every taste. ----------END---------- From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Fri May 18 13:02:17 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:02:17 +0100 Subject: HW: Isle of Wight Message-ID: If you try very hard you can almost hear the geordie accent in the message below LoL. I must of heard the wrong Pink Fairies albums ;-) Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:24 AM Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > Are you MAD man!!???!??!?!?!? > > The Pink Fairies are one of the greatest bands EVER!!!! > > Their older stuff is better.......................but they still kick ass!!!! > > > Get one of their older albums.....trust me, you'll love it! > > > Layla. > > >>> starfield at SUPANET.COM 05/17/01 09:21pm >>> > Who are these PINK FRIARIES? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denis Regenbrecht > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:20 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > > > > >I mentioned Hawkwind at work today, and one of the guys said he'd seen > them > > >at isle of Wight festival playing on the back of a truck, as well as the > > >Pink friaries ;-) > > > > > >I asked him what he thought he said: > > > > > >"Loud" > > > > > >LoL. Mind you he also slept through Jimi Hendrix set. > > > > :-) > > > > (c)IAO > > > > D+R > > np: R.E.M. "Reveal" > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Fri May 18 13:07:00 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:07:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Isle of Wight Message-ID: I can only agree with Mb, the website does kick ass extremely. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mich at el B" To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:24 PM Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > Cool web site@! > > Mb > > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Fri May 18 13:10:48 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:10:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles Glasgow Message-ID: I'm off to see OT in Glagow next Friday yippeee. I haven't seen them since 93. Anyone seen them this year yet, are they on form? Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warren" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 6:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > If you try very hard you can almost hear the geordie accent in the message > below LoL. > > I must of heard the wrong Pink Fairies albums ;-) > > Rich W > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Layla Thompson" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:24 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > > > > Are you MAD man!!???!??!?!?!? > > > > The Pink Fairies are one of the greatest bands EVER!!!! > > > > Their older stuff is better.......................but they still kick > ass!!!! > > > > > > Get one of their older albums.....trust me, you'll love it! > > > > > > Layla. > > > > >>> starfield at SUPANET.COM 05/17/01 09:21pm >>> > > Who are these PINK FRIARIES? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Denis Regenbrecht > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:20 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > > > > > > > >I mentioned Hawkwind at work today, and one of the guys said he'd seen > > them > > > >at isle of Wight festival playing on the back of a truck, as well as > the > > > >Pink friaries ;-) > > > > > > > >I asked him what he thought he said: > > > > > > > >"Loud" > > > > > > > >LoL. Mind you he also slept through Jimi Hendrix set. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > (c)IAO > > > > > > D+R > > > np: R.E.M. "Reveal" > > > From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Fri May 18 13:29:48 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:29:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles Glasgow Message-ID: D'ya think there are any tickets left or is it sold out. i wanna go too. Regards. Rob >From: Rich Warren >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles Glasgow >Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:10:48 +0100 > >I'm off to see OT in Glagow next Friday yippeee. I haven't seen them since >93. > >Anyone seen them this year yet, are they on form? > >Rich W > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rich Warren" >To: >Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 6:02 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > > > > If you try very hard you can almost hear the geordie accent in the >message > > below LoL. > > > > I must of heard the wrong Pink Fairies albums ;-) > > > > Rich W > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Layla Thompson" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:24 AM > > Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > > > > > > > Are you MAD man!!???!??!?!?!? > > > > > > The Pink Fairies are one of the greatest bands EVER!!!! > > > > > > Their older stuff is better.......................but they still kick > > ass!!!! > > > > > > > > > Get one of their older albums.....trust me, you'll love it! > > > > > > > > > Layla. > > > > > > >>> starfield at SUPANET.COM 05/17/01 09:21pm >>> > > > Who are these PINK FRIARIES? > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Denis Regenbrecht > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:20 PM > > > Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > > > > > > > > > > >I mentioned Hawkwind at work today, and one of the guys said he'd >seen > > > them > > > > >at isle of Wight festival playing on the back of a truck, as well >as > > the > > > > >Pink friaries ;-) > > > > > > > > > >I asked him what he thought he said: > > > > > > > > > >"Loud" > > > > > > > > > >LoL. Mind you he also slept through Jimi Hendrix set. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > (c)IAO > > > > > > > > D+R > > > > np: R.E.M. "Reveal" > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Fri May 18 15:26:11 2001 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:26:11 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawk Logs Master Series? Message-ID: If you watch the Hawkwind stuff on eBay, you may have just noticed that one of the CDs in the b00tleg set called "Hawk Logs Master Series" just sold for US$56. (It was auction #1429588731, if you care to look at it.) With at least 15 other volumes in this set, it looks like this is stuff that most of us will never be able to hear. So...does anyone who owns CDs in this series care to comment on the sound quality, packaging, etc.? Seems like prime chain material to me, unless the sound is dismal. Aside from eBay, where would one buy one of these? MWood NP: The Outskirts of Infinity - _The Altar of the Elements_ (thanx CR!) ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri May 18 15:34:44 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:34:44 -0500 Subject: Hawk Logs Master Series? Message-ID: I would love copies of the set too. How many were made? By the time I get news of things like this Noone can get it. Where are these coming from and how can someone in the U.S. get them? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Wood [mailto:mwood at MY-DEJA.COM] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:26 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Hawk Logs Master Series? If you watch the Hawkwind stuff on eBay, you may have just noticed that one of the CDs in the b00tleg set called "Hawk Logs Master Series" just sold for US$56. (It was auction #1429588731, if you care to look at it.) With at least 15 other volumes in this set, it looks like this is stuff that most of us will never be able to hear. So...does anyone who owns CDs in this series care to comment on the sound quality, packaging, etc.? Seems like prime chain material to me, unless the sound is dismal. Aside from eBay, where would one buy one of these? MWood NP: The Outskirts of Infinity - _The Altar of the Elements_ (thanx CR!) ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Fri May 18 15:55:50 2001 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:55:50 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawk Logs Master Series? Message-ID: 75 copies of each volume were made. Here is the list of titles, which I pulled together by looking at Andrew Dawson's excellent HW discography site (http://www.adawson.clara.net): 1: I Do Like to Be Beside the Seaside 2: Archives 3: Out of the Shadows 4: Spirit of the Ages 5: Wastelands of Sleep 6: Rocky Paths 7: Earth Calling 8: Dust of Time 9: Death Trap 10: The Demos 11: Treadmill 12: Heads (2-CD) 13: (unknown) 14: Live Rarities (1979-1984) 15: Live Rarities (1985-1988) 16: Brainwaves MWood >Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:34:44 -0500 >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >From: Stephen Lindas >Subject: Re: Hawk Logs Master Series? >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >I would love copies of the set too. How many were made? By the time I get >news of things like this Noone can get it. Where are these coming from and >how can someone in the U.S. get them? STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Marshall Wood [mailto:mwood at MY-DEJA.COM] >Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:26 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: Hawk Logs Master Series? > > >If you watch the Hawkwind stuff on eBay, you may have just >noticed that one of the CDs in the b00tleg set called >"Hawk Logs Master Series" just sold for US$56. (It was >auction #1429588731, if you care to look at it.) With >at least 15 other volumes in this set, it looks like this >is stuff that most of us will never be able to hear. > >So...does anyone who owns CDs in this series care to comment >on the sound quality, packaging, etc.? Seems like prime >chain material to me, unless the sound is dismal. > >Aside from eBay, where would one buy one of these? > >MWood > >NP: The Outskirts of Infinity - _The Altar of the Elements_ > (thanx CR!) > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >--== Sent via Deja.com ==-- >http://www.deja.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 18 16:00:57 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 21:00:57 +0100 Subject: Hawk Logs Master Series? Message-ID: There were 16 (I think!) releases with 75 copies of each except for volumes 1 & 11 of which only 50 copies were made. Some of them are great, others are OKish! A lot of the material is already available elsewhere on boots. If you look at http://www.adawson.clara.net you will find them and their tracklistings in the "Albums & Compact Discs" section. If anyone would like to trade for a CDR copy of Number 16, please let me know. Regards, COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lindas" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Re: Hawk Logs Master Series? > I would love copies of the set too. How many were made? By the time I get > news of things like this Noone can get it. Where are these coming from and > how can someone in the U.S. get them? STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Wood [mailto:mwood at MY-DEJA.COM] > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:26 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: Hawk Logs Master Series? > > > If you watch the Hawkwind stuff on eBay, you may have just > noticed that one of the CDs in the b00tleg set called > "Hawk Logs Master Series" just sold for US$56. (It was > auction #1429588731, if you care to look at it.) With > at least 15 other volumes in this set, it looks like this > is stuff that most of us will never be able to hear. > > So...does anyone who owns CDs in this series care to comment > on the sound quality, packaging, etc.? Seems like prime > chain material to me, unless the sound is dismal. > > Aside from eBay, where would one buy one of these? > > MWood > > NP: The Outskirts of Infinity - _The Altar of the Elements_ > (thanx CR!) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- > http://www.deja.com/ > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 18 16:12:24 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:12:24 -0400 Subject: Hawk Logs Master Series? Message-ID: On Fri, 18 May 2001 21:00:57 +0100, Colin Allen wrote: > A lot of the material is already available elsewhere on boots. >If you look at http://www.adawson.clara.net you will find them and their >tracklistings in the "Albums & Compact Discs" section. Yeah, I didn't look at all of the tracklistings there, but most of these look pretty redundant. There's one that's basically 'Palace Springs', plus a couple other tracks from that tour that are available on any live '89 tape (like the CD-R's on Minneapolis and San Francisco that have been treed recently); there's on that just combines a bunch of 76-78 tracks that are already on the Weird series; one with part of the Nottingham 90 set that's due out on Voiceprint sometime soon, etc. About the only thing I saw of interest that doesn't already have an official release is some of the mid-80's BBC stuff. Anyone know why THAT hasn't been released, while the (substandard IMHO) '87 Friday Rock Show has been instead (another set that looks like it was duplicated or near- duplicated by one of the Logs volumes)? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 18 16:21:54 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 21:21:54 +0100 Subject: Hawk Logs Master Series? Message-ID: The Mid80s BBC stuff has not been released because the BBC does not tend to release material:(. Only a very small percentage of the material recorded by the BBC has ever been released and I have been told that much of it no longer exists. Regards, COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: Re: Hawk Logs Master Series? > On Fri, 18 May 2001 21:00:57 +0100, Colin Allen > wrote: > > A lot of the material is already available elsewhere on boots. > >If you look at http://www.adawson.clara.net you will find them and their > >tracklistings in the "Albums & Compact Discs" section. > > Yeah, I didn't look at all of the tracklistings there, but most of these > look pretty redundant. There's one that's basically 'Palace Springs', plus > a couple other tracks from that tour that are available on any live '89 > tape (like the CD-R's on Minneapolis and San Francisco that have been treed > recently); there's on that just combines a bunch of 76-78 tracks that are > already on the Weird series; one with part of the Nottingham 90 set that's > due out on Voiceprint sometime soon, etc. > > About the only thing I saw of interest that doesn't already have an > official release is some of the mid-80's BBC stuff. Anyone know why THAT > hasn't been released, while the (substandard IMHO) '87 Friday Rock Show has > been instead (another set that looks like it was duplicated or near- > duplicated by one of the Logs volumes)? > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > From ChStier at AOL.COM Fri May 18 16:42:37 2001 From: ChStier at AOL.COM (Chris Stier) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:42:37 EDT Subject: HW: Bevis Frond Message-ID: Hi folks, Well, I'm off to see Bevis Frond in San Francisco tonight. I was wondering if anyone has seen them yet on the current tour? I know it's an acoustic set this time around but was wondering what they've been playing. Thanks Chris chstier at aol.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 18 16:58:29 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:58:29 -0400 Subject: Hawk Logs Master Series? Message-ID: On Fri, 18 May 2001 21:21:54 +0100, Colin Allen wrote: >The Mid80s BBC stuff has not been released because the BBC does not tend to >release material:(. The BBC THEMSELVES, yes, do not release material (to the public - I'm not counting transcription/syndication discs). But for the last 10-15 years, they've LICENSED lots and lots of it for release by other labels. These days, there's BBC albums by EVERYONE - Beatles, Hendrix, Zeppelin, the Who, the Kinks (and numerous lesser bands ... I have been enjoying one by the Move quite a bit recently), all the Radio 1 In Concerts that came out on Windsong (including Hawkwind), the tons of Peel Session albums/EPs on Strange Fruit. >Only a very small percentage of the material recorded >by the BBC has ever been released and I have been told that much of it no >longer exists. Again, it's well-known that the BBC didn't take care of their archives in the 60's (I recently picked up the Kinks BBC sessions double-CD, which mentions that most of the surviving 60's material comes from shows that were syndicated abroad), but by the 80's, they had realized the potential future values of their archives, and have since then done (AFAIK) a pretty good job of saving things. And even in the 60's, stuff was being preserved. I remember seeing bootleg sets in the early-80's with something like 10 or 12 LP's worth of Beatles sessions, which would have ALL come from the early 60's. Between 'Text of Festival' and 'Spacerock from London'/'Radio 1 In Concert', almost all of Hawkwind's (surviving?) 70's BBC sessions have been released, correct? And all of the 80's sessions are certainly in the hands of tape collectors (although some of those may not actually be "BBC" sessions?). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri May 18 18:03:15 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:03:15 -0600 Subject: Hawk Logs Master Series? In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A99FF3@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: Stephe: "I would love copies of the set too. How many were made? By the time I get news of things like this Noone can get it. Where are these coming from and how can someone in the U.S. get them? " they were only sold from one mail-order shop in England, (basically), and they were at very expensive prices..... they are long gone, but they are just CDR's that could be cloned if you find a friend...... do any of the CDR's ACTUALLY contain the San Diego 89 show????? aside from the non-existing "Indra's Ayahuasca", that Dave's got??? ( I never have played my hawklogs one)....Kevin?? to the one who injected Farflung,.....it's absorbed, and it's breathing well ..... just send your order of what I'm to purchase........ I will soon be groppling at the rest of your feet who I owe email too.... Mike c From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri May 18 17:45:29 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:45:29 -0700 Subject: Hawk Logs Master Series? In-Reply-To: <000e01c0dfd5$41dffbc0$10a6193e@n8f8h2> Message-ID: The first in the series, "I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside" is a very good, not-otherwise-available, show from Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hotel 12/7/80. Get it if you can! KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Colin Allen Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 1:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawk Logs Master Series? There were 16 (I think!) releases with 75 copies of each except for volumes 1 & 11 of which only 50 copies were made. Some of them are great, others are OKish! A lot of the material is already available elsewhere on boots. If you look at http://www.adawson.clara.net you will find them and their tracklistings in the "Albums & Compact Discs" section. If anyone would like to trade for a CDR copy of Number 16, please let me know. Regards, COLIN From jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE Fri May 18 18:10:26 2001 From: jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE (jc) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:10:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles Glasgow In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Unfortunately i won't go as i am in Belgium but if you ever hear the support is a Hungarian band called Korai ?r?m, don't miss them , they're totally mind-blowing! Fantastic stuff!Enjoy the gig, anyway! jean From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri May 18 19:03:36 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:03:36 -0700 Subject: Hawk Logs Master Series? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just pulled this one out and gave it a listen (actually my digitally de-hissed (Cool Edit Pro) version) and boy oh boy does it need to be treed! KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Kevin Sommers Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:45 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawk Logs Master Series? The first in the series, "I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside" is a very good, not-otherwise-available, show from Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hotel 12/7/80. Get it if you can! KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Colin Allen Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 1:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawk Logs Master Series? There were 16 (I think!) releases with 75 copies of each except for volumes 1 & 11 of which only 50 copies were made. Some of them are great, others are OKish! A lot of the material is already available elsewhere on boots. If you look at http://www.adawson.clara.net you will find them and their tracklistings in the "Albums & Compact Discs" section. If anyone would like to trade for a CDR copy of Number 16, please let me know. Regards, COLIN From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri May 18 23:35:47 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 13:05:47 +0930 Subject: HW: Kris's Book Message-ID: Please do - I allready have a copy - but I'd love to get more for friends etc and for - one day - the next generation of Me clones :) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Lee To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:18 AM Subject: HW: Kris's Book > Hmmm, > > As I work for a Digital Printing company I wonder if I > could provide a quote for the job, just a thought... > > ----------Original---------- > > Has anyone every heard of any plans to reprint Kris' book? > > I found a company that not only sells what looks like a > thousand music books, but also publishes them as well (such > as the new and truly excellent ELP bio.) The company is > Helter Skelter, http://www.skelter.demon.co.uk , and I > wonder if Kris & Dave talked with them if they'd be > interested in reprinting the book. > > It'd be nice if there were thousands of nice new copies > for all of us who don't have one... > > > Anyway, check their catalog (though it's way overdue for > an update), there's loads of stuff for every taste. > > ----------END---------- > From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat May 19 03:56:56 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 08:56:56 +0100 Subject: Hawk Logs Master Series? Message-ID: Can we set up a tree then? COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Sommers" To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Hawk Logs Master Series? > I just pulled this one out and gave it a listen (actually my digitally > de-hissed (Cool Edit Pro) version) and boy oh boy does it need to be treed! > > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Kevin Sommers > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:45 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Hawk Logs Master Series? > > > The first in the series, "I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside" is a very > good, not-otherwise-available, show from Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hotel > 12/7/80. Get it if you can! > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Colin Allen > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 1:01 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Hawk Logs Master Series? > > > There were 16 (I think!) releases with 75 copies of each except for volumes > 1 & 11 of which only 50 copies were made. Some of them are great, others > are OKish! A lot of the material is already available elsewhere on boots. > If you look at http://www.adawson.clara.net you will find them and their > tracklistings in the "Albums & Compact Discs" section. If anyone would like > to trade for a CDR copy of Number 16, please let me know. > > Regards, > COLIN > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat May 19 04:28:35 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:28:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles Glasgow Message-ID: There are tickets left I got m ine yesterday from the booking number on the website. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "rob burton" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 6:29 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Ozric Tentacles Glasgow > D'ya think there are any tickets left or is it sold out. > > i wanna go too. > > Regards. > > Rob > > > >From: Rich Warren > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles Glasgow > >Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:10:48 +0100 > > > >I'm off to see OT in Glagow next Friday yippeee. I haven't seen them since > >93. > > > >Anyone seen them this year yet, are they on form? > > > >Rich W > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Rich Warren" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 6:02 PM > >Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > > > > > > > If you try very hard you can almost hear the geordie accent in the > >message > > > below LoL. > > > > > > I must of heard the wrong Pink Fairies albums ;-) > > > > > > Rich W > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Layla Thompson" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:24 AM > > > Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > > > > > > > > > > Are you MAD man!!???!??!?!?!? > > > > > > > > The Pink Fairies are one of the greatest bands EVER!!!! > > > > > > > > Their older stuff is better.......................but they still kick > > > ass!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Get one of their older albums.....trust me, you'll love it! > > > > > > > > > > > > Layla. > > > > > > > > >>> starfield at SUPANET.COM 05/17/01 09:21pm >>> > > > > Who are these PINK FRIARIES? > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Denis Regenbrecht > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:20 PM > > > > Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I mentioned Hawkwind at work today, and one of the guys said he'd > >seen > > > > them > > > > > >at isle of Wight festival playing on the back of a truck, as well > >as > > > the > > > > > >Pink friaries ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > >I asked him what he thought he said: > > > > > > > > > > > >"Loud" > > > > > > > > > > > >LoL. Mind you he also slept through Jimi Hendrix set. > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > (c)IAO > > > > > > > > > > D+R > > > > > np: R.E.M. "Reveal" > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat May 19 06:06:06 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 12:06:06 +0200 Subject: Hawk Logs Master Series? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi At 14:45 18.05.2001 -0700, you wrote: >The first in the series, "I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside" is a very >good, not-otherwise-available, show from Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hotel >12/7/80. Get it if you can! Ooops! I heard from a friend who has bought this boot for lot of money that the quality is not the best. I've got a CD-R (thanks RW) with sleeve from this gig which is for sure of better sound quality Bernhard From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Sat May 19 08:26:40 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 13:26:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Isle of Wight Message-ID: ummmm. how can u do that?? who told u I was geordie!!?? It's not THAT obvious....................is it?????? And don't you be saying bad things about the Fairies....or "'am gonna nut ya!!!!" lol! >>> rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM 05/18/01 06:02pm >>> If you try very hard you can almost hear the geordie accent in the message below LoL. I must of heard the wrong Pink Fairies albums ;-) Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:24 AM Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > Are you MAD man!!???!??!?!?!? > > The Pink Fairies are one of the greatest bands EVER!!!! > > Their older stuff is better.......................but they still kick ass!!!! > > > Get one of their older albums.....trust me, you'll love it! > > > Layla. > > >>> starfield at SUPANET.COM 05/17/01 09:21pm >>> > Who are these PINK FRIARIES? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denis Regenbrecht > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:20 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > > > > >I mentioned Hawkwind at work today, and one of the guys said he'd seen > them > > >at isle of Wight festival playing on the back of a truck, as well as the > > >Pink friaries ;-) > > > > > >I asked him what he thought he said: > > > > > >"Loud" > > > > > >LoL. Mind you he also slept through Jimi Hendrix set. > > > > :-) > > > > (c)IAO > > > > D+R > > np: R.E.M. "Reveal" > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat May 19 11:06:38 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:06:38 -0600 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Layla: "ummmm. how can u do that??" (yeah how??) "who told u I was geordie!!??" (yeah who??) It's not THAT obvious....................is it?????? (not on the content of that post) And don't you be saying bad things about the Fairies....or "'am gonna nut ya!!!!" lol! (Lazza will love you) Mike, who wishes life wasn't so cruel...... she's GREAT.......she's....she's....MINE in the realm of dream???? so treat my "Dream UK" sweetie right or I'll have to get Judge Trev out of Brighton until I can get over there...... you don't mind if I say that you are Beautiful, do you? Layla?? From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Sat May 19 10:41:54 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 15:41:54 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 05/19/01 04:06pm >>> Layla: "ummmm. how can u do that??" (yeah how??) "who told u I was geordie!!??" (yeah who??) It's not THAT obvious....................is it?????? (not on the content of that post) And don't you be saying bad things about the Fairies....or "'am gonna nut ya!!!!" lol! (Lazza will love you) Mike, who wishes life wasn't so cruel...... she's GREAT.......she's....she's....MINE in the realm of dream???? so treat my "Dream UK" sweetie right or I'll have to get Judge Trev out of Brighton until I can get over there...... you don't mind if I say that you are Beautiful, do you? Layla?? No, I don't mind at all babe!! Thanks for the support! Layla. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 19 11:03:07 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 00:33:07 +0930 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: > you don't mind if I say that you are Beautiful, do you? Layla?? > > > > No, I don't mind at all babe!! > > > Thanks for the support! > > Layla. > STOP THAT!! Thats not allowed in here - ..........8>) sex sex sex thats all you kids think about these days - why when I was young we were so poor babble babble spitttt From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat May 19 12:01:09 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 10:01:09 -0600 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Cinnamon Girl (she REALLY IS): "No, I don't mind at all babe!! Thanks for the support!" Layla. ******************************************************************************** Dear Lord Almighty, King Of All Creation, if I have any prayer credit left in life, can I go out with a bang, and ask for: Delivery of brand new, shiny Gibson, with the magic "alien crystal" under the pickups, some military "test equipment" ala Dik MiK, fast overnight smash success, and a sudden something come over me that women find irrisistable??? or is this my punishment for sloth? (don't answer this, unless you ARE GOD, or are currently IN Hawkwind) 'dreamer of pictures'....etc, etc. M From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Sat May 19 11:12:36 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 16:12:36 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: I really am? >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 05/19/01 05:01pm >>> Cinnamon Girl (she REALLY IS): "No, I don't mind at all babe!! Thanks for the support!" Layla. ******************************************************************************** Dear Lord Almighty, King Of All Creation, if I have any prayer credit left in life, can I go out with a bang, and ask for: Delivery of brand new, shiny Gibson, with the magic "alien crystal" under the pickups, some military "test equipment" ala Dik MiK, fast overnight smash success, and a sudden something come over me that women find irrisistable??? or is this my punishment for sloth? (don't answer this, unless you ARE GOD, or are currently IN Hawkwind) 'dreamer of pictures'....etc, etc. M From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Sat May 19 11:18:54 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 16:18:54 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 05/19/01 04:03pm >>> > you don't mind if I say that you are Beautiful, do you? Layla?? > > > > No, I don't mind at all babe!! > > > Thanks for the support! > > Layla. > STOP THAT!! Thats not allowed in here - ..........8>) sex sex sex thats all you kids think about these days - why when I was young we were so poor babble babble spitttt Do you mind?? I'm getting COVERED in granny spit here!!! LOL! Anyway.........no one ever said ANYTHING about sex!! I'm a good girl me.... honest From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat May 19 11:48:53 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 11:48:53 -0400 Subject: Happy Astronomy Day, May 20th 2001!!!! Message-ID: On behalf of Sloterdijk, I wish you all a Happy Astonomy Day!!!! The first Astronomy Day was held in California 28 years ago...Check area newspapers for activities!!! Also check out www.eyeonthesky.com Peace, MIke (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 19 12:12:50 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 01:42:50 +0930 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: > > you don't mind if I say that you are Beautiful, do you? Layla?? > > > > > > > > No, I don't mind at all babe!! > > > > > > Thanks for the support! > > > > Layla. > > > > STOP THAT!! Thats not allowed in here - ..........8>) > > sex sex sex thats all you kids think about these days - why when I was young > we were so > poor babble babble spitttt > > > Do you mind?? I'm getting COVERED in granny spit here!!! LOL! > > Anyway.........no one ever said ANYTHING about sex!! I'm a good girl me.... honest > Well missy - one thing leads to another - first its - ohhhh your so beautiful then the next thing you know ..... you just watch out for that young hooligan Mike Coleman .... thats all ooooohh - look at the time - must cleanse me dentures now..... >>tee hee<< From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Sat May 19 12:32:55 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 17:32:55 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 05/19/01 05:12pm >>> > > you don't mind if I say that you are Beautiful, do you? Layla?? > > > > > > > > No, I don't mind at all babe!! > > > > > > Thanks for the support! > > > > Layla. > > > > STOP THAT!! Thats not allowed in here - ..........8>) > > sex sex sex thats all you kids think about these days - why when I was young > we were so > poor babble babble spitttt > > > Do you mind?? I'm getting COVERED in granny spit here!!! LOL! > > Anyway.........no one ever said ANYTHING about sex!! I'm a good girl me.... honest > Well missy - one thing leads to another - first its - ohhhh your so beautiful then the next thing you know ..... you just watch out for that young hooligan Mike Coleman .... thats all ooooohh - look at the time - must cleanse me dentures now..... >>tee hee<< Mike.......a hooligan?? Never! (He's a cute guy too!) You go get those teeth scrubbed up now. You want to look nice for the neigbours, don't you??! There's a good man. lol From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat May 19 13:42:39 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 11:42:39 -0600 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens In-Reply-To: <001501c0e07e$8d918800$6bcb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: my friend and yours: "Well missy - one thing leads to another - first its - ohhhh your so beautiful then the next thing you know ..... you just watch out for that young hooligan Mike Coleman .... thats all ooooohh - look at the time - must cleanse me dentures now....." the song "magic man" applies in my case..... even if written for another Canadian like yourself..... If something of this nature would occur, you would see things happen like... 1) world peace 2) 30 second cures for Aids 3) all jealousy removed from the earth 4) Dave and Nik being best friends (sorry, my creative juice ran low.....bad joke, I have a suspicion they already are, and have been messing with all our heads)..... 5) the earth would move.....TRULY MOVE....you'd all feel it... ok..... enough of this, she'll be blushing a bit, don't want her angry...... I apologize for this silliness...... just wanted it known that her eyes pierced the soul......and mine don't pierce easy,,,, From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat May 19 12:47:07 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 12:47:07 -0400 Subject: Lounge Axe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kevin Something has been nagging me in the back of my mind regarding you and now I know what it is. I owe you a copy of the Lounge Axe for your great artwork. So please send me your address. Mike Habiby. From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat May 19 12:49:07 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 12:49:07 -0400 Subject: Lounge axe email Message-ID: DOH Now I did it too. That was a private email to Kevin Summers. Sorry all. Mike From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 19 14:02:49 2001 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 19:02:49 +0100 Subject: HW VOiceprint In-Reply-To: <003301c0df9e$c748fcd0$3c00a8c0@hawkswede> Message-ID: Please can you include me as well - I can act as a branch if needed. Cheers, Mark From novadrive at HOME.COM Sat May 19 14:50:04 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 11:50:04 -0700 Subject: Hawk Logs Master Series? In-Reply-To: <200105191006.MAA28237@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: Ahhh, you can judge the quality for yourself. I've put an excerpt from the Lighthouse by the Seaside here: http://www.geocities.com/flighttube/ KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Bernhard Pospiech Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 3:06 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawk Logs Master Series? Hi At 14:45 18.05.2001 -0700, you wrote: >The first in the series, "I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside" is a very >good, not-otherwise-available, show from Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hotel >12/7/80. Get it if you can! Ooops! I heard from a friend who has bought this boot for lot of money that the quality is not the best. I've got a CD-R (thanks RW) with sleeve from this gig which is for sure of better sound quality Bernhard From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat May 19 15:29:23 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:29:23 +0100 Subject: Hawk Logs Master Series? Message-ID: Very nice quality Kevin! I need this recording! Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Sommers" To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: Re: Hawk Logs Master Series? > Ahhh, you can judge the quality for yourself. I've put an excerpt from the > Lighthouse by the Seaside here: > http://www.geocities.com/flighttube/ > > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Bernhard Pospiech > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 3:06 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Hawk Logs Master Series? > > > Hi > > At 14:45 18.05.2001 -0700, you wrote: > >The first in the series, "I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside" is a very > >good, not-otherwise-available, show from Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hotel > >12/7/80. Get it if you can! > > > Ooops! I heard from a friend who has bought this boot for lot of money that > the quality is not the best. > > I've got a CD-R (thanks RW) with sleeve from this gig which is for sure > of better sound quality > > > Bernhard > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat May 19 15:30:27 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 15:30:27 -0400 Subject: HW: Weird105a Message-ID: Does anyone have a copy of Weird 105a that they would like to trade for? Colin From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Sat May 19 16:20:28 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 16:20:28 -0400 Subject: OFF: Nomail??? Message-ID: Argh! I haven't been getting any BOC-L mails for a looong time, and I had no clue what was going on. Finally figured it out. I was apparently set "NOMAIL." Didn't even know such a feature existed, but what really puzzles me is how I ended up set that way when I never asked for it? Bleh. Ah well. Everything's back to normal (hopefully). What did I miss? :-) Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 19 16:32:26 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 06:02:26 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind - Calling Kris Tait Message-ID: Hello Kris! If this email finds it way onto your monitor I have this one question please? Is there anything at all to report on the proposed 2/3 day Hawkfestival/holiday camp in the summer? Rumors, facts - bands feelings on the matter? Awaitng eagerly A Fan From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat May 19 16:31:35 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 16:31:35 -0400 Subject: Nomail??? In-Reply-To: <200105192020.QAA26916@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: Well alex it has been quite a time. BOTH Hawkwind and BOC announced that they were beaking up for good. Fans were dispirited and we did a massive letter writing campaign but to no avail. SO we decided to discontinue the list. he he he..... Good to have you back Alex... Mike :::-----Original Message----- :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :::Behalf Of Alex S. Garcia :::Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 4:20 PM :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :::Subject: OFF: Nomail??? ::: ::: :::Argh! I haven't been getting any BOC-L mails for a looong time, :::and I had no :::clue what was going on. Finally figured it out. I was apparently set :::"NOMAIL." Didn't even know such a feature existed, but what :::really puzzles :::me is how I ended up set that way when I never asked for it? Bleh. ::: :::Ah well. Everything's back to normal (hopefully). What did I miss? :-) ::: ::: ::: :::Alex. ::: :::--------------------------------------------------- :::http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm :::Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] :::www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] :::Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net :::--------------------------------------------------- ::: ::: :::_________________________________________________________ :::Do You Yahoo!? :::Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ::: From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Sat May 19 17:02:14 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 17:02:14 -0400 Subject: HW: Kris's Book Message-ID: In the back of the book it says that 'volume II will follow soon'. Was there ever a follow up? I remember seeing one with a black cover instead of red but was that just volume I with a different colour cover? I have a copy autographed by various past and present members of the band, from Mick Slattery to Alan Davey and...oh! Who's is that autograph? Looks like my little brother's handwriting...didn't know he was in Hawkwind. Regards, Alastair. On Sat, 19 May 2001 13:05:47 +0930, Mich at el B wrote: >Please do - I allready have a copy - but I'd love to get more for friends >etc and for - one day - the next generation of Me clones :) > >Mb > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark Lee >To: >Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:18 AM >Subject: HW: Kris's Book > > >> Hmmm, >> >> As I work for a Digital Printing company I wonder if I >> could provide a quote for the job, just a thought... >> >> ----------Original---------- >> >> Has anyone every heard of any plans to reprint Kris' book? >> >> I found a company that not only sells what looks like a >> thousand music books, but also publishes them as well (such >> as the new and truly excellent ELP bio.) The company is >> Helter Skelter, http://www.skelter.demon.co.uk , and I >> wonder if Kris & Dave talked with them if they'd be >> interested in reprinting the book. >> >> It'd be nice if there were thousands of nice new copies >> for all of us who don't have one... >> >> >> Anyway, check their catalog (though it's way overdue for >> an update), there's loads of stuff for every taste. >> >> ----------END---------- >> From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat May 19 16:00:16 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 16:00:16 -0400 Subject: HW: Kris's Book Message-ID: Mr. Sumner said... >In the back of the book it says that 'volume II will follow soon'. Was >there ever a follow up? I remember seeing one with a black cover instead of >red but was that just volume I with a different colour cover? > >I have a copy autographed by various past and present members of the band, >from Mick Slattery to Alan Davey and...oh! Who's is that autograph? Looks >like my little brother's handwriting...didn't know he was in Hawkwind. Is it Gordon? That might be worth something! :) Grakkl (FAA) From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat May 19 17:59:09 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:59:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Kris's Book Message-ID: The two versions are the same. When I spoke to Kris at Croydon she suggested that another edition of the book was possibly in the offing. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair Lee Sumner" To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 10:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Kris's Book > In the back of the book it says that 'volume II will follow soon'. Was > there ever a follow up? I remember seeing one with a black cover instead of > red but was that just volume I with a different colour cover? > > I have a copy autographed by various past and present members of the band, > from Mick Slattery to Alan Davey and...oh! Who's is that autograph? Looks > like my little brother's handwriting...didn't know he was in Hawkwind. > > Regards, > Alastair. > > On Sat, 19 May 2001 13:05:47 +0930, Mich at el B > wrote: > > >Please do - I allready have a copy - but I'd love to get more for friends > >etc and for - one day - the next generation of Me clones :) > > > >Mb > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Mark Lee > >To: > >Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:18 AM > >Subject: HW: Kris's Book > > > > > >> Hmmm, > >> > >> As I work for a Digital Printing company I wonder if I > >> could provide a quote for the job, just a thought... > >> > >> ----------Original---------- > >> > >> Has anyone every heard of any plans to reprint Kris' book? > >> > >> I found a company that not only sells what looks like a > >> thousand music books, but also publishes them as well (such > >> as the new and truly excellent ELP bio.) The company is > >> Helter Skelter, http://www.skelter.demon.co.uk , and I > >> wonder if Kris & Dave talked with them if they'd be > >> interested in reprinting the book. > >> > >> It'd be nice if there were thousands of nice new copies > >> for all of us who don't have one... > >> > >> > >> Anyway, check their catalog (though it's way overdue for > >> an update), there's loads of stuff for every taste. > >> > >> ----------END---------- > >> > From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sat May 19 18:05:41 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:05:41 +0100 Subject: Nomail??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > BOTH Hawkwind and BOC announced that they were breaking up for good. Well of course they both did. But it was a while ago... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sat May 19 18:06:27 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:06:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Kris's Book In-Reply-To: <200105192102.RAA28897@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > In the back of the book it says that 'volume II will follow soon'. Was > there ever a follow up? No! :) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sat May 19 18:11:18 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:11:18 +0100 Subject: DECLARATION In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Trev What's up? I know I owe Nik a call. I got all the ICU albums first time around of course! Me and my mate Pete were in the front for every gig we could get to... My secret name is so fucking secret even I don't know it. Cheers -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Trev (Judge) > Sent: 16 May 2001 20:04 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: DECLARATION > > > DECLARATION > > I Judge, who has made the oath of allegiance unto the Vagina of the Earth > Mother, and in who?s left hand resides the Sword of Truth, and in who?s > right hand resides the Heart of Love and who?s earthly > manifestation stands > on the Balance say: > > Come, come unto us those who desire the oil of the Trinity that their > threefold nature reaches the Harmony of Perfection. We, who have by our > earthly toils gained the sonic key of the many keys, which > release the dove, > We who now see, chosen and blessed by the Non-Duality, We who are > joined and > uplifted by the Heart, We, together, We who know we are nothing, > We who know > we are everything. > > Fear not the dark, for behold, the Mother pours forth her > all-engulfing life > from her cosmic Vagina and is flanked by the eyes of the Hawk and the > Trident of the Rider and she sits upon the stone table of Albion. which > cannot die. > > Fear not the dark, for we have drunk of the cup of life and we beckon the > hypocrites and prudes who are shackled and branded, come, come unto the > killing fields where in joy our batteries of Truth and the elixir of Light > and the third eye of Thunder and the flail of the Fast and the aura of the > Forest will wither thine corrupted forms back to the earth, for > you are with > and of darkness and with hell you are in agreement. > See our nomad children dance through your arrows with laughter. Hear our > newlyborns speak your insubstantial names with ease. > > Now, quake, for your secret name is dollar and pound and yen and mark and > your symbols are seen and impotent. > > > > > Eee it?s a laf int? it > Biggest laugh is that it?s all true! > > > > Now, oh where are you o lost brothers and sisters of the BLESSED INNER > SANCTUM > Have the demons uprooted you from your warm hearths? > Or have you departed upon your quests? > Or have you set the controls for the heart of the earth? > > Here are some of the earth names of the Lost Loved Ones (not the secret > names of course!) > > Andy Gillam > Andy > Rachael Evans > Max J D?Ayala > William Bailey? > Jamie R > > > Give us a buzz > > > Love, Judge Casualty > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sat May 19 18:59:37 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:59:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Message-ID: Hello All, We will let you know what to do to help when the time comes. We will do a letter etc HW ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Lee To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 3:14 PM Subject: HW: Brixton > Not having read the irc log makes it difficult to know exactly what's > going on here, but this looks/sounds like it needs doing. So count > me in !! > > (PS can I get a copy of the log in txt format from someone) > > I would like to know who the headline act were for the night in question, > logic kind of dictates it was the act/s on the MAIN STAGE ? > As far as I'm concerned the foyer 'act' was a waste of time and space > and served simply to cause irritation as I passed through, and they > damned well should NOT have been playing that loud with an act on > the main stage simultaneously > > > I went to the venue known as the "Brixton Academy" on 21st October 2000, > as a paying ticket holder, to enjoy a perfomance by members past and present > of a band named "Hawkwind" entitled "Hawkestra". I did not pay or knowingly > intend to pay towards the overall cost of > > the production of the amplified sound produced by audio equipment present > in the venue foyer. The volume/level of the sound emanating from this > equipment which, in my opinion, had NO connection with the featured event, > invaded the main performance area, throughout > > the entire duration of the performance, to the distraction and annoyance > of many people, including myself, who paid to enjoy the performance by > "Hawkwind". > > > > I, the undersigned, hereby propose that no portion of the money gained > from the sale or otherwise of tickets for the aforementioned venue on the > aforementioned date for the event known as "Hawkestra", performed by artists > under the collective name of "Hawkwind", be > > awarded to the promoters/owners or associated agents of the audio > equipment present in the venue foyer. > > > > Mark Lee mark at esparto.uk.com > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat May 19 19:06:24 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:06:24 -0000 Subject: DECLARATION Message-ID: no, it's just that you moved house since the last mail out.(LOL) >From: Andy Gilham >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: DECLARATION >Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:11:18 +0100 > >Hey Trev > >What's up? I know I owe Nik a call. I got all the ICU albums first time >around of course! Me and my mate Pete were in the front for every gig we >could get to... My secret name is so fucking secret even I don't know it. > >Cheers > >-- Andy > >www.andygilham.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Trev (Judge) > > Sent: 16 May 2001 20:04 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: DECLARATION > > > > > > DECLARATION > > > > I Judge, who has made the oath of allegiance unto the Vagina of the >Earth > > Mother, and in who?s left hand resides the Sword of Truth, and in who?s > > right hand resides the Heart of Love and who?s earthly > > manifestation stands > > on the Balance say: > > > > Come, come unto us those who desire the oil of the Trinity that their > > threefold nature reaches the Harmony of Perfection. We, who have by our > > earthly toils gained the sonic key of the many keys, which > > release the dove, > > We who now see, chosen and blessed by the Non-Duality, We who are > > joined and > > uplifted by the Heart, We, together, We who know we are nothing, > > We who know > > we are everything. > > > > Fear not the dark, for behold, the Mother pours forth her > > all-engulfing life > > from her cosmic Vagina and is flanked by the eyes of the Hawk and the > > Trident of the Rider and she sits upon the stone table of Albion. which > > cannot die. > > > > Fear not the dark, for we have drunk of the cup of life and we beckon >the > > hypocrites and prudes who are shackled and branded, come, come unto the > > killing fields where in joy our batteries of Truth and the elixir of >Light > > and the third eye of Thunder and the flail of the Fast and the aura of >the > > Forest will wither thine corrupted forms back to the earth, for > > you are with > > and of darkness and with hell you are in agreement. > > See our nomad children dance through your arrows with laughter. Hear our > > newlyborns speak your insubstantial names with ease. > > > > Now, quake, for your secret name is dollar and pound and yen and mark >and > > your symbols are seen and impotent. > > > > > > > > > > Eee it?s a laf int? it > > Biggest laugh is that it?s all true! > > > > > > > > Now, oh where are you o lost brothers and sisters of the BLESSED INNER > > SANCTUM > > Have the demons uprooted you from your warm hearths? > > Or have you departed upon your quests? > > Or have you set the controls for the heart of the earth? > > > > Here are some of the earth names of the Lost Loved Ones (not the secret > > names of course!) > > > > Andy Gillam > > Andy > > Rachael Evans > > Max J D?Ayala > > William Bailey? > > Jamie R > > > > > > Give us a buzz > > > > > > Love, Judge Casualty > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat May 19 19:28:34 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 19:28:34 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bizarre situation=call for help Message-ID: As announced yesterday, SLOTERDIJK is booked for July 1 at The Pontiac in Philadelphia (see complete tourdates thus far at www.mp3.com/sloterdijk Originally it was our intention to get booked as the opening act for The Brain Surgeons, but due to a fluke in the communication tree, The Brain Surgeons are actually playing that night at The Khyber ( the place where we played with Harvey Bainbridge last summer). Apparently the Pontiac blew off the Surgeons, and I believing at that time ( legitimately, via the info available on the surgeons website etc), aggressively sought an opening slot for their show..Now the booking agent had told me that she had no confirmation of them playing there that night, but I thought it was a mistake, so now both bands are booked for the same night in different venues. The Khyber has been less than receptive to me since "The Traveling Outerspace Spectacular" for reasons I don't understand since we packed the house on a sunday night in August... So here is what I am asking people to do... Please contact The Khyber and tell them you want Sloterdijk on the bill the night The Brain Surgeons come to town..If they are willing to book us we will cancel the other show, because we want to see them, and it was our hope to support them here and help spread the word of their coming etc.. Here's how you can help: by e-mail: write letters to booking at the khyber by phone: ask for the booking phone# by calling the main number at: (215) 238-5888 refer them only to our website URL below, or tell them this e-mail address Sloterdik at webtv.net Peace, MIke www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat May 19 19:31:01 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 19:31:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bizarre situation=call for help In-Reply-To: SLOTERDIJK@webtv.net (SLOTERDIJK)'s message of Sat, 19 May 2001 19:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: That's booking at thekhyber.com www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From ben at TMK.COM Sat May 19 23:35:13 2001 From: ben at TMK.COM (Ben Cohen) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:35:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: Nomail??? In-Reply-To: <200105192020.QAA26916@mailgate.spc.edu>; from mvdbase@YAHOO.COM on Sat, May 19, 2001 at 04:20:28PM -0400 Message-ID: On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 04:20:28PM -0400, Alex S. Garcia wrote: > Argh! I haven't been getting any BOC-L mails for a looong time, and I had no > clue what was going on. Finally figured it out. I was apparently set > "NOMAIL." Didn't even know such a feature existed, but what really puzzles > me is how I ended up set that way when I never asked for it? Bleh. Ok, this is going to (potentially) be news for everyone... :-) If anyone's email starts bouncing badly, but in a (seemingly) non-fatal way, my usual answer is to NOMAIL you. It keeps you subscribed to the list, but cleans up my inbox. In most cases, I consider a "fatal" error to be one that indicates that your domain is still good, but that you (everything left of the "@" in your email) is bad. Most other things I consider to be non-fatal and just NOMAIL you. Fair warning if this happens to anyone else. Worst case, just email me directly and I can figure out why you're not getting mail. YnSSHM, Ben From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Sun May 20 08:04:22 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 13:04:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Setlist site Message-ID: I believe I saw a post here a few days ago where someone said they had HW setlists on their www pages. I am sure it would be a good idea to submit this info to these folks: http://www.pauserecord.com/resources/setlistlinks.html Alasdair From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun May 20 12:27:20 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:27:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Record Shops Glasgow and Inverness Message-ID: OK Guys. Enlighten Me. I'm visiting Glasgow and Inverness. Any good shops? The only one I know in Glasgow is Tower. Rich W From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun May 20 13:18:38 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 02:48:38 +0930 Subject: HW: Brixton Message-ID: awaiting orders Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: XXX To: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 8:29 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton > Hello All, > > We will let you know what to do to help when the time comes. We will do a > letter etc > > HW > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Lee > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 3:14 PM > Subject: HW: Brixton > > > > Not having read the irc log makes it difficult to know exactly what's > > going on here, but this looks/sounds like it needs doing. So count > > me in !! > > > > (PS can I get a copy of the log in txt format from someone) > > > > I would like to know who the headline act were for the night in question, > > logic kind of dictates it was the act/s on the MAIN STAGE ? > > As far as I'm concerned the foyer 'act' was a waste of time and space > > and served simply to cause irritation as I passed through, and they > > damned well should NOT have been playing that loud with an act on > > the main stage simultaneously > > > > > I went to the venue known as the "Brixton Academy" on 21st October 2000, > > as a paying ticket holder, to enjoy a perfomance by members past and > present > > of a band named "Hawkwind" entitled "Hawkestra". I did not pay or > knowingly > > intend to pay towards the overall cost of > > > the production of the amplified sound produced by audio equipment > present > > in the venue foyer. The volume/level of the sound emanating from this > > equipment which, in my opinion, had NO connection with the featured event, > > invaded the main performance area, throughout > > > the entire duration of the performance, to the distraction and annoyance > > of many people, including myself, who paid to enjoy the performance by > > "Hawkwind". > > > > > > I, the undersigned, hereby propose that no portion of the money gained > > from the sale or otherwise of tickets for the aforementioned venue on the > > aforementioned date for the event known as "Hawkestra", performed by > artists > > under the collective name of "Hawkwind", be > > > awarded to the promoters/owners or associated agents of the audio > > equipment present in the venue foyer. > > > > > > Mark Lee mark at esparto.uk.com > > From hw at CY-B.ORG Sun May 20 13:27:01 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Confuzed) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 13:27:01 -0400 Subject: HW: BBC Recordings Message-ID: Just a comment on the recent talk of BBC recordings..... I know people have knocked this recording on here before, but as I write this I'm playing the Friday Rock Show Sessions CD from Reading '86... It surely *has* to be one of the band's greatest live discs ???? (IMHO :} ) If you haven't heard it, i urge you to get it !!!!!! It beats the hell out of some other releases that people seem to rave over ! From g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK Sun May 20 15:01:32 2001 From: g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK (g.m.wright) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:01:32 +0100 Subject: Lounge AX Message-ID: Hi Merrick, Sorry its taken me so long to reply to your message, but I've not been checking my mail. Still, the happy pills should sort that out ! Sorry but I;ve got no idea whats happened to that. But on the good news front, as I have a copy from a different source that will play on a normal cd player I'll get a copy burnt at work & get that in the post to you this week. Take care Geoff geoff wright g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Merrick Martin French To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 14 May 2001 12:18 Subject: Re: Lounge AX >Thanks geoff, > >The cd is great. it's in the post to Peter Wibrew. > >To all, > >Any news on the astoria total rock cd ??? it seems to be lost !! > > >Merrick French > From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Sun May 20 15:34:44 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 15:34:44 -0400 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... Message-ID: From: "mike c" > Dear Al, to the best of my knowledge, the reality is like this.... > > my knowledge could be incorrect, and appropriate corrections are welcome, > of course!!!!!! > > I BELIEVE that the brown labels on the Charisma LP's are the ORIGINAL > pressings...... > > blue labels came later...(I Believe) When you say labels. are you talking about the label on the record? I just found a copy in a friends collection that has a white label. Also says "Promotional Copy Not For Sale" on label and has a box on the back of the cover that says "Not For Sale Demonstration Loaned for Promotion Only" in Gold. Jerry From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun May 20 16:59:49 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 14:59:49 -0600 Subject: HW: Re: [Hawkwind] 25 years on and astounding questions.... In-Reply-To: <002201c0e163$ec1e6240$63a4a918@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: Jerry: " When you say labels. are you talking about the label on the record? I just found a copy in a friends collection that has a white label. Also says "Promotional Copy Not For Sale" on label and has a box on the back of the cover that says "Not For Sale Demonstration Loaned for Promotion Only" in Gold." dear Jerry, any who have interest..... The copies we were discussing were concerning the British original copy's, which won't have a white label unless it's a test-record.... the one in your friends collection is a USA copy, and is from several of our (meaning other list-members) experience, SEEMINGLY more common than the regular USA copy (can any veterans answer this for me? I am not positive) It's still nice though, I think, and that reminds me to go shove the press kit in with the Promo copy ..... thanks for asking me!!!! and for those veterans out there, who were older than 13 at that time, and go back further, I salute you!!!!!!! m From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Sun May 20 16:23:44 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 21:23:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawk Logs Master Series? In-Reply-To: <200105181955.MAA10475@mail6.bigmailbox.com> Message-ID: In article <200105181955.MAA10475 at mail6.bigmailbox.com>, Marshall Wood writes >75 copies of each volume were made. Here is the list of titles, >which I pulled together by looking at Andrew Dawson's excellent >HW discography site (http://www.adawson.clara.net): > > 1: I Do Like to Be Beside the Seaside > 2: Archives I have these two, (Copies, not originals) and on the strength of them, I'd like the rest. Archives is a bit patchy, cobbled together from various sources, and some of it isn't even Hawkwind, but the first one (Folkestone 1980) is very good quality. -- David Blair From hw at CY-B.ORG Sun May 20 17:43:01 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Aha!) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:43:01 -0400 Subject: HW: Attention To Detail.... Message-ID: Those 'hair watchers' among u...... Stop me if you've heard this.... any1 else noticed before that the legend on the spine of the DOJO CD release of Warriors reads "Warriors At the Edge of Time" but everywhere else on the sleeve notes reads the correct text "Warriors On the Edge of Time" thought I'd throw that one in the pot :} From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Sun May 20 18:06:53 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (jean-charles moriaud) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 00:06:53 +0200 Subject: OFF: Just noticed: Dharmaweb.com ;-) Message-ID: I just noticed while looking for PHP Nuke sites this one: http://www.dharmaweb.net/. When you are a B?C fan, a word like "dharma" anywhere even in a crowded page make you immediately click on the link... That was just for fun. Cheers, JCMoriaud _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun May 20 17:23:35 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:23:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Circle in the UK Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just got a message from Jussi Lehtisalo (of Circle, Ektroverde, Tree Sine, and Frustrum Quartet) who says that they (Circle) are planning to do some shows in the UK this coming December. Apparently, they have something worked out for Glasgow on Dec. 6th, but are interested in making some contact with people who can help them line up shows elsewhere in the country around this time. Anybody? You can reply to me personally if you wish... Keith H. (henderson.120 at osu.edu) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun May 20 19:53:28 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:53:28 -0600 Subject: HW: Attention To Detail.... In-Reply-To: <200105202143.RAA02867@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: looks like someone of importance revealed: Those 'hair watchers' among u...... Stop me if you've heard this.... any1 else noticed before that the legend on the spine of the DOJO CD release of Warriors reads Warriors At the Edge of Time" but everywhere else on the sleeve notes reads the correct text "Warriors On the Edge of Time" NOT UNTIL NOW!!!! so could there be a corrected one?????...... if so, maybe it fetches 1000 Sterling in the market???? I can say that Brock is the "Demented KING" on the British original LP labels..... I can also say that, I don't really want to jerk the hairless warrior away from my friend who will do it.....so I still offer a SUPER-EXCELLENT $80.00ish(OR UP TO GOD KNOWS WHAT) trade or sale, if anyones got a Great sleeve, and I will replace with an Nice original copy if wished!!!!!! Also....according to the USA vinyl test-pressing info sheet...... the release date in USA was april 15, 1975..... the tracks here are listed as this: 1) assault and battery time 5:43 2) golden void 4:28 3 )wizard blue his horn 1:58 4) opa-loka 5;07 5) the demented man 4:02....... total time 21:18 side 2 1) magnu 8:15 2) standing on the edge 2:47 3) spiral galaway 3:47 4) warriors at the edge of time 1:58 5) dying sea's of time 3:02 6) kings of speed 3:29 total time 23:18 the errors are NOT mine....this is how they had them down...... and I will definately be WORKING for those I OWE this week......I am not sick any more, just my USUAL SICKLY.... so how about the "Green" printed ISOS LOG????? anybody got one of these up for some fun?????? are ther any colors besides black, dark blue, and green(ish)???? I have a Black one from USA, and I can say that this is VERY RARE, having had enough of these through the years to start a bonfire the Astronauts could see from space..... help, I need a warrior "Igia".... OH AND, YOU PROBABLY DON'T CARE...BUT I HAVE TO BRAG ON MY PRIDE AND JOY.... the american test-pressing has a sound tone ALL IT's OWN, set to pierce the skull, and it was pressed for ATCO by PRESSWELL records!!! if anyone has USA Hawklords test, or any UA ones, I will make it like Christmas for you if you'll part..... PS...the UK test-presses on UA label are on 2 pieces of vinyl....each one sided..... I have the Doremi......or is that Doremi's??? it, too, will re-arrange your head...... From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun May 20 20:30:06 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:30:06 -0600 Subject: Hawkfringe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just decided that the fact that I noticed Dave Brock and Nik Turner are both wearing fringe jackets on the American Promo photo by ATCO , has a meaning................. m c From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun May 20 21:06:31 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:06:31 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Jimi Hendrix In-Reply-To: <200105202143.RAA02867@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: wants you to watch him on VH1 in about 55 minutes........ if you can.... From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon May 21 04:00:02 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 04:00:02 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles Message-ID: Haven't seen them this year, but as I'm going to their Edinburgh show on Thursday, asl me after. Stuart The Hawkwind Shop http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=HAWKWIND&s=1151 From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 21 06:59:14 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 06:59:14 -0400 Subject: Spacebrock & Weird 6 Message-ID: The mispressed version was only sold at the Brixton concert; it has 15 tracks and a duration of 45:45. Cheers, COLIN From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon May 21 07:47:09 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:17:09 +0930 Subject: Hawkfringe Message-ID: Ehat is it Master? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:00 AM Subject: Re: Hawkfringe > I just decided that the fact that I noticed Dave Brock and Nik Turner are > both wearing fringe jackets on the American Promo photo by ATCO , has a > meaning................. > > > m c From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon May 21 08:10:36 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:40:36 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind kind of Related in the Space Rock Sense..... Message-ID: As you may know - Alien Dream, the CD, has been given rave reviews from CD-services and that the interest, as far as sales have gone, has been very favorable. So on that note I would like to give four lucky HawkFans the opportunity to get yourself a free copy of the demo version of the Alien dream! The only difference in the demo and the copies Andy has for sale are: 1) Slightly different art work 2) demo = 5 tracks /// Full release = 11 Tracks ( The quality is all still there!!!) To get a copy of the demo simply click on the url below and send me an email with you details. While you are there check out the mp3 short demo of Full Moon with the url below>>> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Alien_Dream/Alien_Dream_Index.htm Michael B From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon May 21 11:49:20 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:49:20 -0600 Subject: Hawkfringe In-Reply-To: <003301c0e1eb$c55c5260$b9cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: "Phineas": Ehat is it Master? (regarding photographed smoking-jacket choices) it means Dave and Nik were proud of the work they had accomplished using the 'great computers' which at that time were the ones filling 'the hallowed halls' m You know it's a killer when Dave has that HUGE grin, and you can tell he was overseeing the thing......and that jacket..... no leather, nor patches needed.... But the little skull next to Lemmy has a nice effect ATCO photo: RECOMMENDED From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon May 21 13:40:51 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 03:10:51 +0930 Subject: Hawkfringe Message-ID: Freewheelin Franklin: Cooool!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 1:19 AM Subject: Re: Hawkfringe > "Phineas": > > Ehat is it Master? (regarding photographed smoking-jacket choices) > > it means Dave and Nik were proud of the work they had accomplished using > the 'great computers' which at that time were the ones filling 'the > hallowed halls' > > m > > You know it's a killer when Dave has that HUGE grin, and you can tell he > was overseeing the thing......and that jacket..... > > no leather, nor patches needed.... > > But the little skull next to Lemmy has a nice effect > > ATCO photo: RECOMMENDED From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon May 21 14:02:48 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 03:32:48 +0930 Subject: Sort of Hawkwind related in a Space Rock kind of way Message-ID: Regarding the Alien Dream demo cd giveaway all the winners have been replied to and all cd's will go out in the post tomorrow *******NOTE******** There are a couple of people out there ((you know who you are)) that have been waiting for a video or a badge Please rest assured that these things will soon be nestled in your mail box.... sprinkles of peace powder :;:;:;:;:::::::: sprinkles of peace powder :;:;:;:;:::::::: sprinkles of peace powder :;:;:;:;:::::::: sprinkles of peace powder :;:;:;:;:::::::: sprinkles of peace powder :;:;:;:;:::::::: From hw at CY-B.ORG Mon May 21 14:59:54 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Sikk) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:59:54 -0400 Subject: OFF: Mindless Games Message-ID: Those who have mastered the sheep thing might want to try this: http://mohsye.com/games/catapultx.htm (sorry) From riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM Mon May 21 15:25:50 2001 From: riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM (Phillip A Jaeger) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:25:50 -0500 Subject: BOC: San Antonio show Message-ID: Was I the only one there? Very disappointed, in the production and crowd, NOT the band The crowd was so lethargic that paying them probably would not have gotten them to participate. The first sound check was done after BOC played. The band was very energetic, and any chance to see them is taken. . Show was part of the Styx/Bad Co tour. Acts where: Joe Stark (new guy from New Orleans) (15minutes) BOC (40 minutes) Survivor (40) Billy Squire (60) Bad Co (90) Styx (90) set included (not in order, forgot to send the email from the show): Hot Rails Godzilla Pocket ETI Burnin' and ended with (Don't Fear) The Reaper The crowd got less enterested for Survivor, then started cheering for Squire; but htey still wouldn't join in, just cheered when asked to sing. They place finally started to really respond to Bad Co and Styx. Styx performed Lorelei (they say for the first tour ever) and took Polaroids on stage which they gave to the crowd. Phillip From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon May 21 15:41:55 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:41:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mindless Games Message-ID: Or for something more, er, current for all you peple who hate politics.......... http://www.panlogic.co.uk/splat_the_MP.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Sikk To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 7:59 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Mindless Games > Those who have mastered the sheep thing > might want to try this: > > http://mohsye.com/games/catapultx.htm > > (sorry) From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon May 21 16:23:12 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:23:12 -0400 Subject: HW: Delurk and Hawk Logs Master Series Message-ID: Hello all, I am a long-time lurker here on BOC-L and have always gotten great enjoyment and much useful information from the participants on this list. I've decided to delurk because of the recent Hawk Logs Master Series thread - I am the happy owner of a complete set of 16 obtained earlier this year. As was previously mentioned, they are CDRs mostly transferred from vinyl boots and the Weird tapes - the transfer is good, and the source material varies in sound quality but was mostly quite good to begin with. Individual CD tracks are sometimes composed of several songs - for example the Bottom Line '78 set is divided into 2 long CD tracks, corresponding to the 2 sides of the original vinyl. I have put together short descriptions of all the titles in the series along with some quick notes about each one and will post it to the list in 3 parts as it's a bit long. If anyone would like to do CD-R trades for individual titles in the series I'd be happy to do so - and if anyone is willing to donate the time and effort to set up a tree I'll donate copies of the discs for that as well. Only caveat - I'm pretty busy so if there is lots of interest there may be a delay before I can get back to you. Now, bootlegs may be a touchy subject for some (including the band) so I apologize ahead of time to anyone who objects to this, if I get a lot of negative feedback I will drop it. List opinion over the years seems to be that boots are Ok as long as they are not sold (just traded or treed) which is why I've decided to do this. Let me know what the concensus is. Finally, hello to everyone I've corresponded with/traded with/bought stuff from over the past few years! Stephan Stephan Forstner stemfors at pipeline.com stephan at mullermedia.com Stephan Forstner 145 - 72nd St. Apt. D-9 Brooklyn, NY 11209 From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon May 21 16:34:33 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:34:33 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawk Logs Master Series: Part 3 (of 3) Message-ID: Hawk Logs Master Series: Part 3 (of 3) 11. Treadmill (58 minutes) Live in Europe 1989 Brainstorm / Down Through the Night / Treadmill / Time We Left / Hassan I Sahba / Lives of Great Men / Void of Golden Light / Needle Gun / Ejection / Lost Chronicles This is another good set from this period, similar to the others, sound is not bad but not great, and Simon House again takes it all to the next level. 12. 13. Heads, Heads 2 (44 minutes) (46 minutes) live San Diego on October 12th 1989 CD 1 / Magnu / Down Through the Night / In the Office / Time We Left This World Today / Heads / Time We Left / Assassins of Allah / Wind of Change / Assault & Battery / Golden Void / Back in the Box (Intro) CD 2 / Back in the Box / Arrival in Utopia / Back in the Box (Reprise) / Brainstorm / Dreamworker (unlisted) / Damnation Alley / Ejection Yet another 2 CDs from this period. This set has better sound than 11, but Simon House is not present. Well, you can't have everything. Another good set. 14. Live Rarities 79-84 (54 minutes) Lighthouse (1979) / Silver machine (1981) / Masters of the Universe (1981) / Choose Your masques (1982) / Solitary Mind Games (1982) / Waiting for Tomorrow (1982) / Masters of the Brainverse (1983) / Coded Languages (1983) / Ghost Attack (1983) / Sonic Attack (1983) / PSI Power (1984) These tracks have varying sound quality, I'm not sure if any of them appear elsewhere. 15. Live rarities 85 - 88 (53 minutes) Choose Your masques (1988) / Battle Seq Elric (1985) / Masters of the Universe (1986) / Assault & Battery (1986) / Assassins of Allah (1986) / Magnu (1987) / Angels of Death (1987) / Lost Chronicles (1987) / Needle Gun (1988) / Rehersal Jams (1988) / Dreamworker (1988) Same as 14. The sound on these is getting worse. 16. Brainwaves (47 minutes) Private Party 1989 Assault & Battery / Golden Void / Treadmill / Levitation / Damnation Alley / Needle Gun / Brainstorm / Angels of Death Bonus Tracks Interview with Hawkwind & Samantha Fox about Gimme Shelter / Assault & Battery (Live 1985) / Bob Calvert's Cricket Star (unlisted) The '89 set has the worst sound by far of any of the other '89-'90 sets. The interview track is I believe from the EP. Cricket Star was taken from a VERY scratchy flexi, but its nice to finally hear this track. Stephan Stephan Forstner stemfors at pipeline.com stephan at mullermedia.com Stephan Forstner 145 - 72nd St. Apt. D-9 Brooklyn, NY 11209 From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon May 21 16:27:02 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:27:02 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawk Logs Master Series: Part 1 (of 3) Message-ID: Hawk Logs Master Series: Part 1 (of 3) 1. I Do Like To Be Beside the Seaside (70 minutes) (live at the Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hotel on 12th July 1980) Shot Down in the Night / Urban Guerilla / The War / World of Tiers / Dust of Time / Docking Port III / Nati / Lighthouse / Brainstorm / M.O.T.V / Silver Machine / Levitation This is similar to the Complete '79 set, I would rate the sound as slightly less good, but a very good set. Nati is a Tim Blake piece I haven't seen elsewhere, tho I think he had a similarly titled track on one of his recent releases. DP3 is Space Chase with nice solos from TB and HLL. 2. Archives (66 minutes) (Archive BBC) - no date given but I assume it's from 85(?) Assault & Battery / Night of the Hawks / They Got Your Number / Magnu / Blue Angel/Dreamworker / Dust of Time Cystal Palace Bowl 1985 Intro / Coded Languages / Angels of Death / Needle Gun / Brainstorm The Visitation Live (A Hawkwind Tribute) Vanishing Point / Final Day / Masters of the Universe The 1st set (ABBC) has very good sound. TGY# is an HLL tune. CPB85 has somewhat less good sound. I don't know anything about The Visitation Live - the 1st 2 tracks are instrumentals, and overall I think its pretty good - I'd be interested in more of this stuff, whoever/whatever it is. Does anyone know? 3. Out of the Shadows (60 minutes) Live at Nottingham Rock City 1990 Assault & Battery / The Golden Void / Out of the Shadows / Snake Dance / Utopia / Ejection / Damnation Alley / Wind of Change Xenon Codex Tour Hammersmith 1988 (Part 1) Arrival in Utopia / The War I survived / Heads I think the '90 set is the one that is supposed to be released any day now by Voiceprint. Very good sound, very good set, definitely worthy of release (Simon House=amazing). This is missing 2 songs that I've seen on other boots of this show (Night of the Hawks and Back In the Box). The Hammersmith '88 set is spread over the next 4 CDs. I think the same show has appeared on the boots Live at Hammersmith '88 and No Sleep Til Hammersmith (wonder where they got that title) but I don't have those so I'm not sure. Sound is again very good. 4. Spirit of the Ages (57 minutes) Live at the Bottom Line New York 1978 Hassan & Sahba / Brainstorm / Steppenwolf / Highrise / Robot / Spirit of the Age / Sonic Attack Xenon Codex Tour Hammersmith 1988 (Part 2) Shot Down in the Night / Mutation Zone / Tides (unlisted) The '78 set has somewhat less good sound, it fades in and out a bit in places, and similar versions of all the songs are available on the Weird CDs, but this is still a great show and one of my favorites (maybe because it was the 1st HW boot I ever got, way back in 1985 or so). Again, Simon House=amazing. Steppenwolf is split into 2 parts and Sonic Attack fades out early. 5. Wastelands of Sleep (54 minutes) Live at Stonehenge 1983 Utopia / The Psychedelic Warlords / Motorway City / Ejection / Shot Down in the Night / Master of the Universe / Spirit of the Age Xenon Codex Tour Hammersmith 1988 (Part 3) Wastelands of Sleep / Moonglum The Stonehenge set has sound that's less good than the Collector's Series Choose Your Masques, lots of audience noise (but usually limited to between songs), the set is a bit looser than CYM, and there are nice long sax-heavy jams on TPWs and SotA. Nice version of Moonglum. Stephan Stephan Forstner stemfors at pipeline.com stephan at mullermedia.com Stephan Forstner 145 - 72nd St. Apt. D-9 Brooklyn, NY 11209 From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon May 21 16:37:13 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:37:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farflung Strange Daze '99 tracklist Message-ID: Hello all, I believe someone recently asked for the tracklist of the Farflung Strange Daze '99 release w/ Nik Turner (or was that on another list?) Anyway, I'm not sure if anyone else replied to this, so here's a tentative list - it's just my opinion so use it as a starting point. 1. Alius Orbis 2. When I Woke To Sleep No More 3. Prototype of a Traveler (?) / The Larval Stage - The 1st part sounds like a slightly simplified version of PoaT, but I'm not sure about this. 4. Day of St. Anthony's Fire - until about 3:40, after which it goes off in an unfamiliar direction until the end of the track. 5. Breach of I Here's Nik... 6. Sonic Attack 7. Brainstorm 8. Watching the Grass Grow 9. Opa-Loka with Thoth Riff - or - Thoth Goes to Opa-Loka - or maybe just plain - Opa-Loka 10. You Shouldn't Do That This is a great disc, both without and with Nik - I think it's headed for a slot on my top-10 of 2001. Thanks to Jim and Strange Trips for releasing it (and the Harvey and Anubian Lights discs, too). Stephan Stephan Forstner stemfors at pipeline.com stephan at mullermedia.com Stephan Forstner 145 - 72nd St. Apt. D-9 Brooklyn, NY 11209 Stephan Forstner stemfors at pipeline.com stephan at mullermedia.com From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon May 21 16:30:57 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:30:57 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawk Logs Master Series: Part 2 (of 3) Message-ID: Hawk Logs Master Series: Part 2 (of 3) 6. Rocky Paths (61 minutes) Live at Watchfield and Stonehenge 1976 Robot / Cake Out / Circles / Elements / Slap It On Der Table / High Rise / Damnation Alley / Uncle Sam Xenon Codex Tour Hammersmith 1988 (Part 4) Sonic Attack / Rocky Paths / Brainstorm Watchfield/Stonehenge are basically the Weird versions. 7. Earth Calling (57 minutes) Live at Brmingham Kinetic Playground 2/12/71 Technicians of Spaceship Earth / You Shouldn't Do That / The Awakening / You Know You're Only Dreaming / Starfarers Despatch / Master of the Universe / Paranoia / Earth Calling / Silver machine / Welcome to the Future Live at Glasgow Appolo 1982 Choose Your Masks / Coded languages The '71 set is great, tho the sound quality is not so good - very like Text of Festival in fact. Vocals are mostly non-existent or buried in the mix, except for Bob who does great deadpan/monotone/deliberate readings of his poetry and sings Silver Machine. At the end everyone has an orgasm on stage. 8. Dust of Time (57 minutes) Live at Glasgow Apollo 1982 Magnu / Dust of Time / Waiting for Tomorrow / Angels of Death / Ghost Dance / The Golden Void / The Psychedelic Warlords (Disappear in Smoke) Live USA 1973 Space is Deep / Down on Her Knees / Live and Let Live / Etchanatay The '82 set started on the previous disc and is again similar to the CYM 2 CD set, I think it first appeared under the name Golden Void. The '73 stuff is I believe half of Weird 108. I don't believe it is actually live - Dave is playing rhythm and lead simultaneously on Down on Her Knees for example. Or is this a live/clean-up in the studio job, a la Silver Machine? Also, DoHK had (I think) a Dave-solo demo version called Ode to a Fallen Film Star that appeared on one of the Spirit boots - does anyone know if that has appeared anywhere else? Finally, Live and Let Live (and Etchanatay) has what must be a really REALLY early example of sampling, unless it was added later for the Weird tapes release. Does anyone know? 9. Death Trap (69 minutes) Live 1976-77-78 Death Trap / Micro Man / Spirit of the Age / Urban Guerilla / Quark / Master of the Universe / Future / Sonic Attack / Back on the Streets / City of Lagoons / Brainstorm / Wind of Change / Assassins of Allah These are all Weird versions I think. 10. Demos (61 minutes) Brock demos Streets of Fear / First Landing on Medusa / Touchdown / Winter of our Discontent / Choose Your Masques / Looking in the Future / Space Travellers / Circles / Speed of Light / Bombed Out / Nuclear Toy / The War / The Dream / Assassination / The Dream II / Satellite Again, these are all available on the Weird CDs. Stephan Stephan Forstner stemfors at pipeline.com stephan at mullermedia.com Stephan Forstner 145 - 72nd St. Apt. D-9 Brooklyn, NY 11209 From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Mon May 21 17:57:08 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:57:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mindless Games Message-ID: try this.... www.itn.co.uk/election/game wishing it would all go away.... Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 Currently listening to: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:41 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Mindless Games > Or for something more, er, current for all you peple who hate > politics.......... > > http://www.panlogic.co.uk/splat_the_MP.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sikk > To: > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 7:59 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Mindless Games > > > > Those who have mastered the sheep thing > > might want to try this: > > > > http://mohsye.com/games/catapultx.htm > > > > (sorry) > From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Mon May 21 17:57:05 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:57:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Attention To Detail.... Message-ID: Hi, Yeah, I've got a green(ish) Log. Must admit up till now I've always assume it was a sun bleached black one. Don't some of the Warriors list side 2 track 1 as Mangu or Magno on the label.? Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:53 AM Subject: Re: HW: Attention To Detail.... > looks like someone of importance revealed: > > Those 'hair watchers' among u...... > > Stop me if you've heard this.... > any1 else noticed before that the legend on the spine of > the DOJO CD release of Warriors reads > Warriors At the Edge of Time" but everywhere else on > the sleeve notes reads the correct text > "Warriors On the Edge of Time" > > NOT UNTIL NOW!!!! so could there be a corrected one?????...... > if so, maybe it fetches 1000 Sterling in the market???? > > I can say that Brock is the "Demented KING" on the British original LP > labels..... > > I can also say that, I don't really want to jerk the hairless warrior away > from my friend who will do it.....so I still offer a SUPER-EXCELLENT > $80.00ish(OR UP TO GOD KNOWS WHAT) trade or sale, if anyones got a Great > sleeve, and I will replace with an Nice original copy if wished!!!!!! > > Also....according to the USA vinyl test-pressing info sheet...... > > the release date in USA was april 15, 1975..... > > the tracks here are listed as this: > > 1) assault and battery time 5:43 > > 2) golden void 4:28 > > 3 )wizard blue his horn 1:58 > > 4) opa-loka 5;07 > > 5) the demented man 4:02....... > > total time 21:18 > > side 2 > > 1) magnu 8:15 > > 2) standing on the edge 2:47 > > 3) spiral galaway 3:47 > > 4) warriors at the edge of time 1:58 > > 5) dying sea's of time 3:02 > > 6) kings of speed 3:29 > > total time 23:18 > > > the errors are NOT mine....this is how they had them down...... > > and I will definately be WORKING for those I OWE this week......I am not > sick any more, just my USUAL SICKLY.... > > so how about the "Green" printed ISOS LOG????? > > anybody got one of these up for some fun?????? > > are ther any colors besides black, dark blue, and green(ish)???? > > I have a Black one from USA, and I can say that this is VERY RARE, having > had enough of these through the years to start a bonfire the Astronauts > could see from space..... > > > help, I need a warrior "Igia".... > > OH AND, YOU PROBABLY DON'T CARE...BUT I HAVE TO BRAG ON MY PRIDE AND JOY.... > > the american test-pressing has a sound tone ALL IT's OWN, set to pierce the > skull, and it was pressed for ATCO by PRESSWELL records!!! > > if anyone has USA Hawklords test, or any UA ones, I will make it like > Christmas for you if you'll part..... > > PS...the UK test-presses on UA label are on 2 pieces of vinyl....each one > sided..... > > I have the Doremi......or is that Doremi's??? > > it, too, will re-arrange your head...... > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon May 21 19:32:47 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Annoyance C) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:32:47 -0600 Subject: HW: Attention To Detail.... In-Reply-To: <005601c0e242$6c5061a0$7802883e@jezd> Message-ID: re Magno: you are a sharp one indeed.......(it IS SO) Live Chrons for you... Care for a "more visible" Log cover??? what will this cost in addition???? did you get that Warrior colored in yet??? (only kidding Jez) and Come in please Mr.Farflung.... I owe you a costly something.... PS....(JD) so why does your lot include all that I want???? how'd you do it??? and for the sake of this POST to be redeemed....... dear Sikk Rikk, and all "watchers of detalium".....if you happen upon a "URUGUAYAN" (spelling NOT included) Hall Of The Mountain Grill, it has a different back cover, which is the photos from the inner sleeve..... you'll (somebody will, no doubt) be completely overwhelmed with ecstasy to know that Mike Coleman neither owns this item, nor has ever even come close to seeing it, but I know that Mick Bryceland has a copy....... and THAT is REALITY YOU CAN RELY ON................. m PS--I spelled it right From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Mon May 21 18:26:35 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:26:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Test In-Reply-To: <200105211859.OAA06019@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >Sorry "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM Mon May 21 19:28:30 2001 From: rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM (RPManny) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 19:28:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: San Antonio show Message-ID: Hot Rails, really!? I thought this song had been permanently retired after Joe left the band. Off the topic, I used to live in San Antonio back in 1984-86 while I was at UTHSCSA in the clinical pharmacy program. I loved the city, what a great place to live and work. The paternal side of my family has it's American roots in San Antonio. My great-grandfather and his wife immigrated from France and Germany, respectively and got married and raised a family of 13 children. I can't imagine such a feat, I find it hard enough single-parenting a seven year-old daughter (but it's a great job). Richard in Tampa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip A Jaeger" To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 3:25 PM Subject: BOC: San Antonio show > ... > set included (not in order, forgot to send the email from the show): > Hot Rails > Godzilla > Pocket > ETI > Burnin' > and ended with (Don't Fear) The Reaper > ... > > Phillip From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 21 19:17:42 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:17:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawk Logs Master Series: Part 1 (of 3) Message-ID: Stephan, I am definitely interested in trading for Number 1. Regards, COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan Forstner" To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:27 PM Subject: HW: Hawk Logs Master Series: Part 1 (of 3) > Hawk Logs Master Series: Part 1 (of 3) > > 1. I Do Like To Be Beside the Seaside (70 minutes) > (live at the Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hotel on 12th July 1980) > > Shot Down in the Night / Urban Guerilla / The War / World of Tiers / Dust of > Time / Docking Port III / Nati / Lighthouse / Brainstorm / M.O.T.V / Silver > Machine / Levitation > > This is similar to the Complete '79 set, I would rate the sound as slightly > less good, but a very good set. Nati is a Tim Blake piece I haven't seen > elsewhere, tho I think he had a similarly titled track on one of his recent > releases. DP3 is Space Chase with nice solos from TB and HLL. > > > 2. Archives (66 minutes) > (Archive BBC) - no date given but I assume it's from 85(?) > Assault & Battery / Night of the Hawks / They Got Your Number / Magnu / Blue > Angel/Dreamworker / Dust of Time > Cystal Palace Bowl 1985 > Intro / Coded Languages / Angels of Death / Needle Gun / Brainstorm > The Visitation Live (A Hawkwind Tribute) > Vanishing Point / Final Day / Masters of the Universe > > The 1st set (ABBC) has very good sound. TGY# is an HLL tune. CPB85 has > somewhat less good sound. I don't know anything about The Visitation Live - > the 1st 2 tracks are instrumentals, and overall I think its pretty good - > I'd be interested in more of this stuff, whoever/whatever it is. Does anyone > know? > > > 3. Out of the Shadows (60 minutes) > Live at Nottingham Rock City 1990 > Assault & Battery / The Golden Void / Out of the Shadows / Snake Dance / > Utopia / Ejection / Damnation Alley / Wind of Change > Xenon Codex Tour Hammersmith 1988 (Part 1) > Arrival in Utopia / The War I survived / Heads > > I think the '90 set is the one that is supposed to be released any day now > by Voiceprint. Very good sound, very good set, definitely worthy of release > (Simon House=amazing). This is missing 2 songs that I've seen on other boots > of this show (Night of the Hawks and Back In the Box). The Hammersmith '88 > set is spread over the next 4 CDs. I think the same show has appeared on the > boots Live at Hammersmith '88 and No Sleep Til Hammersmith (wonder where > they got that title) but I don't have those so I'm not sure. Sound is again > very good. > > > 4. Spirit of the Ages (57 minutes) > Live at the Bottom Line New York 1978 > Hassan & Sahba / Brainstorm / Steppenwolf / Highrise / Robot / Spirit of the > Age / Sonic Attack > Xenon Codex Tour Hammersmith 1988 (Part 2) > Shot Down in the Night / Mutation Zone / Tides (unlisted) > > The '78 set has somewhat less good sound, it fades in and out a bit in > places, and similar versions of all the songs are available on the Weird > CDs, but this is still a great show and one of my favorites (maybe because > it was the 1st HW boot I ever got, way back in 1985 or so). Again, Simon > House=amazing. Steppenwolf is split into 2 parts and Sonic Attack fades out > early. > > > 5. Wastelands of Sleep (54 minutes) > Live at Stonehenge 1983 > Utopia / The Psychedelic Warlords / Motorway City / Ejection / Shot Down in > the Night / Master of the Universe / Spirit of the Age > Xenon Codex Tour Hammersmith 1988 (Part 3) > Wastelands of Sleep / Moonglum > > The Stonehenge set has sound that's less good than the Collector's Series > Choose Your Masques, lots of audience noise (but usually limited to between > songs), the set is a bit looser than CYM, and there are nice long sax-heavy > jams on TPWs and SotA. Nice version of Moonglum. > > > Stephan > > Stephan Forstner > stemfors at pipeline.com > stephan at mullermedia.com > > > > Stephan Forstner > 145 - 72nd St. Apt. D-9 > Brooklyn, NY 11209 > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon May 21 20:46:57 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:46:57 -0000 Subject: Hawkfringe Message-ID: Right -that's it all this fringe rubbish. Now this is the story - hoped i would never have to tell it... I once peeked into niks stone floored "bedroom" on high rock farm - in the heart of celtic pagan land. he was on his knees fondling the mighty jacket of the fringes - he was mumbling in tongues. He seemed to be counting the number of fringes on it. The garment glowed. He came to a certain point in the counting. He uttered a word. I saw a blinding flash, and was knocked out cold I remember someone walking over me as if I were a doormat. They didn't even notice i was there. When I awoke, I noticed a scurrying in the bushes - small two-legged creatures wwere hurrying and spitting and oh the pain - i can hardly go on... In a flash, I realised that the number of fringe bits on his jacket - was the fisrt key to unlock - HIS SECRET HAME!!! You see... The Baron and Rider... Long before Hawkwind... were brothers of the order of the Rosicants,,,,.....and the fringed robes marked them as ipsisimi haluso's I don't know what I'm saying,.,.,there is a strange thig driving me...i feel very weaoppj hjfurf813y4f'h count count count them aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaThe program has performed an illegal operation...and will be closed. >From: mike c >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Hawkfringe >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:49:20 -0600 > >"Phineas": > >Ehat is it Master? (regarding photographed smoking-jacket choices) > >it means Dave and Nik were proud of the work they had accomplished using >the 'great computers' which at that time were the ones filling 'the >hallowed halls' > >m > >You know it's a killer when Dave has that HUGE grin, and you can tell he >was overseeing the thing......and that jacket..... > >no leather, nor patches needed.... > >But the little skull next to Lemmy has a nice effect > >ATCO photo: RECOMMENDED _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 22 01:12:02 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:42:02 +0930 Subject: OFF: Mindless Games Message-ID: hi score of 800 ----- Original Message ----- From: Sikk To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:29 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Mindless Games > Those who have mastered the sheep thing > might want to try this: > > http://mohsye.com/games/catapultx.htm > > (sorry) > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue May 22 06:05:20 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:05:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Attention To Detail.... Message-ID: >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 05/22/01 12:32am >>> re Magno: you are a sharp one indeed.......(it IS SO) Live Chrons for you... Care for a "more visible" Log cover??? what will this cost in addition???? did you get that Warrior colored in yet??? (only kidding Jez) and Come in please Mr.Farflung.... I owe you a costly something.... PS....(JD) so why does your lot include all that I want???? how'd you do it??? and for the sake of this POST to be redeemed....... dear Sikk Rikk, and all "watchers of detalium".....if you happen upon a "URUGUAYAN" (spelling NOT included) Hall Of The Mountain Grill, it has a different back cover, which is the photos from the inner sleeve..... you'll (somebody will, no doubt) be completely overwhelmed with ecstasy to know that Mike Coleman neither owns this item, nor has ever even come close to seeing it, but I know that Mick Bryceland has a copy....... and THAT is REALITY YOU CAN RELY ON................. m PS--I spelled it right From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 22 06:54:39 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 06:54:39 -0400 Subject: HW: Weird 5 Message-ID: I am still looking for a copy of the original release of Weird Tape 5. Someone out there must have one! COLIN From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Tue May 22 07:14:23 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:14:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird 5 Message-ID: Colin wrote: >I am still looking for a copy of the original release of Weird Tape 5. >Someone out there must have one! Just for the record, I'd be really interested in a copy of this, too. Whilst I'm at it, I'm also on the lookout for CD versions of: Nik's "Xitintoday" & Harvey's "Interstellar Chaos" & "Red Shift". Can anyone help?? If anyone knows where I can get hold of copies (& I've tried all the on-line stores I know of w/o success) or has spares for trade/sale, please contact me off-list. Much appreciated. Cheers Dave From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue May 22 08:29:04 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:29:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Doug Bates wrote: > It disappoints me to see Nik have these perceptions attached to him, > although I certainly understand how/why. Nik is the spirit of HW, but > Dave is THE MAN I think we all agree. In that context, my take is > this. I think the spirit of Hawkwind has changed, though. I think since maybe '78 or so Dave's been a lot more interested in running it as a professional band that does the professional band thing. Without selling out of course. But I don't think, well he's said as much, that Dave would play for free any more, which Nik certainly would. > But Nik eventually grew out of that "phase", by '95 when he did the > Space Ritual 95 tour with Helios Creed and Tommy Greanas some > punk elements were left, but the space/psych was coming back. The > US tour the next year was even better, the punkish attitude was gone > and some great space rock was created. In '97 when Nik played with > Farflung at Strange Daze I though they were awesome. If you've never > heard this show, you should. For me, on that night, I enjoyed them as > much as any HW show of the '97 US tour (I saw them all). It seemed > to me Nik had come full circle, recognizing his true home (spacerock) > and left the "fuck it shtick" behind. I do think he cares if the fans are > entertained and is willing to work hard to pull it off. Some of these > recent gigs with ex-hawks sound more like an informal jam at a > party, than a professional concert. I don't judge Nik or anybody > at those gig as an indication of what they can do musically. Nik > seems to be stuck in "one off" purgatory at the present. I wish he > would get in a real band full time (you know *practice*, puts out CDs, > tour). Its my impression he's back to his old self (like when he was > young in the early '70's). :-) He seems to be a born-again space rocker. Well, there *was* the All Stars, for a year or so that looked as if it was going to last and get an album out; still no news on that I assume. But Nik seems to need a preformed backing group. The small swathe of Cleopatra albums seem to me to have emerged largely because Grenas, possibly the world's hardest-working space-rocker, was willing to knuckle down and basically do the work and let Nik carry the credit. The Scandinavian bands he's worked with, with possibly the exception of 5:15, seem to have discovered the way he works and decided it not to their taste. I can't say I blame Nik, he's indubitably doing just what he wants to do. Someone who speaks to him every now and then described him to me as getting up to find his van's broken and going and busking for the money to fix it and considering this a perfectly fine way of spending a day. And, well, it is isn't it? But it won't get us any more albums. > Nik has done most of this to himself, but it seems he has been sent out > into the dessert for good. I wish Dave would reconsider. Didn't Lemmy > say some crack about Nik during the Brixton gig? Whats the deal, is > he still pissed about being sacked all those years ago? Well, one of the interviews I've seen with Lemmy (I think in the Ask Lemmy section of seems to suggest that Nik only bothered to get in touch and apologise for the sacking whilst trying to set up the Hawkestra thing. I can quite believe Lemmy would hold a grudge that long, half his lyrics are based on long-held grudges after all. But I also think Lemmy doesn't really consider Nik a "serious musician". Fine, he isn't, that's what he adds. I don't really do the whole fantasy line-up thing; you have to fantasise so much in the way of people getting on and liking each other as well otherwise you know, putting these people on stage won't necessarily net you the goods. It just can't happen. What I would like, and which seems to be nearly as much of a fantasy, is *this* line-up, with Nik, Harvey, Tim or whoever else might consider guesting, crammed into a studio somehwere for a month until they have some material and then releasing it. I can't belive the band can produce much worth listening to in the studio while they operate apart like this. But that would mean a record deal because they have to eat for that month, don't they, and ah, it's just not gonna happen. Depressedly, yours, Jon ObCassette: Ozric Tentacles - _Become The Other_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue May 22 08:34:08 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:34:08 +0100 Subject: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > In a message dated 4/27/01 5:21:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET writes: > > on "worst line-ups"... > > Harvey Bainbridge - Bass/keyboard > > I'm a little confused when i see Harvey bashed for his bass-playing. I'm not > one to no anything about bass-guitar virtuosity really, but "Free Fall" > sounds to me like some of the more challenging bass heard on any HW album. > I've also always loved his synth/kybds, though I can't always distinguish > between him and Dave... I think Harvey is *great* on synths, inventive, weird, and individual (though I too never really know how much Dave is putting into it; the guitar hardly stops on _California Brainstorm_ but when pre-programming and MIDI switches in the guitar and Richard setting off routines from teh drum-kit are added into the equation a lot of that noise could still be sort of Dave's work). I do however think he's a lousy bass-player. Probably Hawkwind's worst, it's difficult to say what John Harrison could actually do compared to what he had the need to play on the really early stuff. It's not that Harvey can't write for the bass, as you say `Free Fall' isn't easy and he plays it fine, some of the most musical bass parts in HW are his work, but he just doesn't leave the bass-line. Plod plod plod, note for note the same. _Live '79_ or TIHDNP show you just what I mean here. Anyone else is more interesting. Keep him on the keys though, as long as they'll actually pay him which seems to be something of a difficulty. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue May 22 08:43:52 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:43:52 +0100 Subject: HW: More Nik In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > Uncle Nik's copped some flak here lately: like most everyone else I wish he > wouldn't use the Hawkwind name, and while I haven't heard his recent > albums it seems he's repeatedly recycling the same (mostly HW) material. > > However the fact remains that he had a massive role in Hawkwind: he was > there from the start, he had a lot to do with the identity of the band from > its earliest days. He was largely responsible for getting Bob Calvert involved, > and he wrote or co-wrote some classic material. (Brainstorm, Master of the > Universe, Shouldn't Do That, D-Rider). Yes, in case my previous post seems too negative, it must not be forgotten that Nik is responsible for some of the most basic punishing blanga there has ever been written. Which is why I find it so annoying that he doesn't seem to have anything more to add to that; last thing he seems to have written with any primary involvement (can't speak for the All Stars stuff here but in any case that's not what I'm talking about here) was `Walking in the Sky' on _Prophets of Time_, assuming the Cleopatra writing credits are correct which they aren't most elsewher on that release. And that's one song since 1985 barring `Medulla Mirage' on _The Eternal Sky_ which, you'll forgive me for saying, is pants. Agh. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue May 22 08:58:33 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:58:33 +0100 Subject: HW: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Melvyn Vincent wrote: > Not me either! > I'd only purchase the REAL thing! ( Sorry Nik....but if there's no Dave > Brock...then I'm afraid it just aint Hawkwind! Hawkwind without Brock is > like a Rolls Royce Car being driven by the engine from a Ford Escort!) Ha > ha..... By that rationale of course none of the Nikwind recordings would be worth owning, which they are, so I conclude you're being a little over-dogmatic here. After all, when even Dave can turn out Hawkwind that isn't, what's to stop Nik turning out a reasonable album whatever's on the cover? No new material maybe but then _Spacebrock_ hem hem... Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue May 22 09:17:18 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:17:18 -0400 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: On Tue, 22 May 2001 13:29:04 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: > I think the spirit of Hawkwind has changed, though. I think since >maybe '78 or so Dave's been a lot more interested in running it as a >professional band that does the professional band thing. True, but... Without selling >out of course. But I don't think, well he's said as much, that Dave would >play for free any more Er.. Hawkwind are playing a free festival in Norwich in a couple of months' time, no? And if you're casting your net back as far as '78, there have been any number of free HW gigs and benefit gigs since then. On the subject of Nik: what is the deal with "Nik's Space Ritual", "Past or Future", "Prophets Of Time" etc? Could anyone post comments on these albums... I'd like to hear them but I'm a bit too sceptical of the whole "Nik-rehashes-his-glorious-past...again" bit to just go out on a limb. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue May 22 09:30:27 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:30:27 -0400 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts In-Reply-To: <200105221317.JAA09954@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 22 May 2001, Nick Medford wrote: => On the subject of Nik: what is the deal with "Nik's Space Ritual", "Past or => Future", "Prophets Of Time" etc? Could anyone post comments on these => albums... I'd like to hear them but I'm a bit too sceptical of the whole => "Nik-rehashes-his-glorious-past...again" bit to just go out on a limb. Of those three, I'd rank them best to worst as follows: _Past or Future_, _Nik's Space Ritual_, and _Prophets of Time_. I would say _Past or Future_ is pretty much essential and I unreservedly recommend it. The _Space Ritual_ one is uneven, although it has some standout moments like "D-Rider". _Prophets of Time_ is for Nik kompletists, at least as far as I'm concerned. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Tue May 22 09:32:35 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:32:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: Nick Medford wrote: > On the subject of Nik: what is the deal with "Nik's Space Ritual", "Past or > Future", "Prophets Of Time" etc? Could anyone post comments on these > albums... I'd like to hear them but I'm a bit too sceptical of the whole > "Nik-rehashes-his-glorious-past...again" bit to just go out on a limb. My opinions: Space Ritual - very good. Past or Future - get it for the wonderful version of Opa-Loka. Prophets Of Time I can take or leave... Keef From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 22 09:48:42 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:48:42 -0400 Subject: HW: Weird 5 Message-ID: Dave, The two Harvey recordings were VERY limited indeed. If you want to discuss options please contact me offline. Regards, COLIN From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue May 22 11:34:24 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:34:24 -0400 Subject: OFF: Space for Music Message-ID: Hi Folks... FYI. I suppose Karen might be interested in going to this at least. Spacecraft (Kentucky-based) is the only artist I know here, but they alone would make it worthwhile. Grakkl (FAA) ******************************************************* SpaceforMusic Festival 2001 Saturday, May 26th 6pm, 2001 Miramar Theatre Milwaukee, WI ******************************************************* SpaceforMusic.com Concerts is proud to present it's first annual space music festival for the new millennium, Space for Music Festival 2001! All of the artists performing in this event have CDs released from the Space for Music label. We look forward to presenting some of the finest space/ambient musicians working in the US today. Performances will also include visual projections from several of the artists. Also featured will be original paintings by Chris Short of Ma Ja Le. Also look forward to an extensive collection of merchandise to be available from these artists including products not currently available elsewhere. SCHEDULE 6:00pm to 6:45pm - Giles Reaves 7:00pm to 8:00pm - Vir Unis w/special guest Interstitial 8:15pm to 9:30pm - Ma Ja Le / J. Johnson 9:45pm to 11:00pm - Spacecraft 11:00pm to 11:30pm - All star Jam From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 22 12:50:51 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 02:20:51 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind: why I luv thee :) Message-ID: 1) Thou makest the music of the Gods - and it is good 2) Thou hast the power to set minds free - and that is good 3) Creativity to inspire generations to greatness - that is groovy 4) They art true to their nature - that is divine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BECAUSE<<<<<<<<<<< From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue May 22 13:52:17 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (<>) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:52:17 -0600 Subject: HW: Weird 5 and Red Shift In-Reply-To: <003f01c0e2b0$80543e60$d8209dc3@merlinas> Message-ID: dear Colin and Dave... I have "Red Shift" stashed, and I probably have a weird "5" as well, though that will be a later one, with only white art, and NO tape label.... it is my understanding that it IS official, however, just a later issue.... If you don't find in meantime. I will help, I am currently bowled under with responsibilities that I must attend, as I am scared very much of Bullets...... Mike Coleman From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue May 22 14:19:03 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:19:03 -0400 Subject: BOC: Has anyone heard Pocket? Message-ID: IIRC, the single was supposed to be released today. Anyone catch it yet? Impressions? In the pocket of the moment, Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue May 22 14:22:44 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:22:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird 5 Message-ID: The issue with Weird 105 was that it was released and promptly deleted, only then to be re-issued almost immediately with a different selection of tracks. I ordered mine as soon as it was advertised and got the second edition with an apology for the delay, which mentioned, and I quote from memory, "due to complaints Dave Brock has remixed the album". What the complaints were I have no idea. However, I later picked up an original in Andy G's old Lotus Records for a fiver. Track listing is thus: Side 1 Flying Doctor (Hawklords '78, same version as Friends & Relations 3) Back on the Streets (same as later version) City of Lagoons (same as later version) (Quark, Strangeness & Charm album USA radio promo - not listed on sleeve) Paranoia (this 1976 version not released anywhere else, as far as I know). Back on the Streets (same version as above, edited) Side 2 same as later release. Cover art same as later release, except spine and tape label read 'Hawkwind/Hawklords'. Any clearer? Captain Bl at ck From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Tue May 22 14:35:40 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:35:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird 5 and Red Shift Message-ID: Hey Mike > I have "Red Shift" stashed, and I probably have a weird "5" as well, >though that will be a later one, with only white art, and NO tape label.... >it is my understanding that it IS official, however, just a later issue.... Thanks for the offer. The version that both Colin & I are looking for is the first edition w/ "Paranoia" amongst the track listing - I already have a copy of the later (reissued) tape (and CD). >If you don't find in meantime. OK - cheers again. Dave From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue May 22 15:44:40 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:44:40 -0600 Subject: HW: Weird 5 and Red Shift In-Reply-To: <018901c0e2ee$04e23000$d8209dc3@merlinas> Message-ID: david.... I have it.... give me a week, possibly 2,,,,, I will definately help.....save my email address... and Colin, looks like Capatain Black pointed out you are looking for that which I don't have.... must bug him for Paranoia..... later... M c From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue May 22 14:53:59 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:53:59 -0400 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: On Tue, 22 May 2001 13:34:08 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > >> In a message dated 4/27/01 5:21:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >> ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET writes: >> >> on "worst line-ups"... >> > Harvey Bainbridge - Bass/keyboard >> >> I'm a little confused when i see Harvey bashed for his bass-playing. >> I'm not one to no anything about bass-guitar virtuosity really, >> but "Free Fall" sounds to me like some of the more challenging bass >> heard on any HW album. >> I've also always loved his synth/kybds, though I can't always distinguish >> between him and Dave... > > I think Harvey is *great* on synths, inventive, weird, and >individual Those adjectives also apply to his vocal/frontman work IMO! There's nobody else like him, and his dry/deadpan, yet outrageously humorous, delivery suits Hawkwind perfectly. He's not a *great* keyboard player (like Simon House) or even *great* synth player (like Del/Tim), but he's still very competent at both and again, suits Hawkwind perfectly (being a virtuoso is definitely NOT a requirement for being an excellent member of Hawkwind). >(though I too never really know how much Dave is putting into >it; the guitar hardly stops on _California Brainstorm_ but when >pre-programming and MIDI switches in the guitar and Richard setting off >routines from teh drum-kit are added into the equation a lot of that noise >could still be sort of Dave's work). I do however think he's a lousy >bass-player. Probably Hawkwind's worst, it's difficult to say what John >Harrison could actually do compared to what he had the need to play on the >really early stuff. It's not that Harvey can't write for the bass, as you >say `Free Fall' isn't easy and he plays it fine, Actually, the "Free Fall" bass line *sounds* much more difficult than it really is. It is definitely a very cool, well-written bass part, but it's really quite easy to play (utterly trivial compared to some of Lemmy's and Alan's parts!). I'm not a great bass player, but I can handle any of his parts no problem (not true for all of Lemmy's/Alan's/Adrian's). >some of the most musical >bass parts in HW are his work, but he just doesn't leave the >bass-line. Plod plod plod, note for note the same. _Live '79_ or TIHDNP >show you just what I mean here. Anyone else is more interesting. Agreed, but I think his bass work on 'Live 79' is quite good (but not TiHDNP or Masques/82) ... I get the impression he sort of lost interest in playing bass when he started playing keys/synths. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue May 22 16:22:25 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:22:25 -0600 Subject: HW:red shift + interstellar chaos In-Reply-To: <018901c0e2ee$04e23000$d8209dc3@merlinas> Message-ID: have copies of both of these (if I wasn't clear....possibly only 1 or 2 red-shift) where's hairless warrior....???? "curse and damn you, all you fall by the hands of the sinner"... (but I'll lift you out of the pit when the Warrior is delivered) mike c, who is JOKING ....(but not about bainbridge stash) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue May 22 15:53:54 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:53:54 -0400 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: On Tue, 22 May 2001 09:17:18 -0400, Nick Medford wrote: >On the subject of Nik: what is the deal with "Nik's Space Ritual", "Past or >Future", "Prophets Of Time" etc? Could anyone post comments on these >albums... I'd like to hear them but I'm a bit too sceptical of the whole >"Nik-rehashes-his-glorious-past...again" bit to just go out on a limb. For better or worse, they're all "Nik-rehashes-his-past" albums. 'Space Ritual' I consider essential for Helios Creed's involvement (including a couple of his songs alongside Nik's), but I've been a Chrome fan for almost as long as I've been a Hawkwind fan. As someone mentioned, the version of "D-Rider" on this one is outstanding (possibly even better than the HotMG version!). 'Past and Future' is pretty similar to 'Space Ritual', without Helios Creed, but with Simon House & Al Powell. The fact that these two albums were recorded "live" with a "real" band (there's lots of drum machine on the next two) puts them in the superior category for me. 'Prophets of Time' is all ICU remakes. The original ICU versions are all far superior EXCEPT for "Stonehenge Who Knows," by virtue of some absolutely stunning violin work by Simon House. I consider that track to justify the price of admission, but I'm a huge Simon House fan, so keep that in mind ... I find that the 'Sphynx' remake pales compared to the original 'Xitintoday', but some people feel otherwise, so YMMV. The Dark Sun 'Ice Ritual' is another "live" album (which is a good thing), and differs considerably from the two on Cleopatra in that the songs tend to be fairly short (3-4 minutes), with little jamming. OTOH, most of the songs on P&F and SR run about 6-8 minutes each. There are also some Brock covers (and Rudolph's "Hassan i Sahba") on this one, done by Dark Sun WITHOUT Nik. And then there's 5:15's version of "Silver Machine" ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue May 22 16:13:11 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:13:11 EDT Subject: OFF: Space for Music Message-ID: I have to concur with this. I just saw Spacecraft live last saturday, and it brought back fond memories of good 70's electronic synth music. great stuff. and also: Giles Reaves is in Spacecraft, and opened for them at the same show, this was something worth seeing also. bob In a message dated 5/22/01 12:47:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > Hi Folks... > > FYI. I suppose Karen might be interested in going to this at least. > Spacecraft (Kentucky-based) is the only artist I know here, but they alone > would make it worthwhile. > > Grakkl (FAA) > > ******************************************************* > SpaceforMusic Festival 2001 > Saturday, May 26th 6pm, 2001 > Miramar Theatre > Milwaukee, WI > ******************************************************* > SpaceforMusic.com Concerts is proud to present it's > first annual space music festival for the new millennium, > Space for Music Festival 2001! All of the artists performing in > this event have CDs released from the Space for Music label. > We look forward to presenting some of the finest space/ambient > musicians working in the US today. Performances will also > include visual projections from several of the artists. Also featured > will be original paintings by Chris Short of Ma Ja Le. Also look > forward to an extensive collection of merchandise to be available > from these artists including products not currently available elsewhere. > > SCHEDULE > > 6:00pm to 6:45pm - Giles Reaves > 7:00pm to 8:00pm - Vir Unis w/special guest Interstitial > 8:15pm to 9:30pm - Ma Ja Le / J. Johnson > 9:45pm to 11:00pm - Spacecraft > 11:00pm to 11:30pm - All star Jam > From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue May 22 16:17:28 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:17:28 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird 5 In-Reply-To: <006a01c0e2ec$37ff2080$a51828d5@starfield> Message-ID: > I ordered mine as soon as it was advertised and got the second > edition But then again I ordered mine as soon as it was advertised and got the original... :) -- Andy From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 22 17:20:04 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:20:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird 5 and Red Shift Message-ID: Hi Mike:), The Weird 105 we are looking for is the very early one with "Flying Doctor" on it; I think Dave has tracked it and the Harvey CDs (which I have) down. Thanks anyway, Cheers, COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "<<>>" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 6:52 PM Subject: Re: HW: Weird 5 and Red Shift > dear Colin and Dave... > > I have "Red Shift" stashed, and I probably have a weird "5" as well, > though that will be a later one, with only white art, and NO tape label.... > > it is my understanding that it IS official, however, just a later issue.... > > If you don't find in meantime. I will help, I am currently bowled under > with responsibilities that I must attend, as I am scared very much of > Bullets...... > > > Mike Coleman > From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 22 17:21:36 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:21:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird 5 Message-ID: Much, Any chance of a copy of the version with Flying Doctor? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 7:22 PM Subject: Re: HW: Weird 5 > The issue with Weird 105 was that it was released and promptly deleted, only > then to be re-issued almost immediately with a different selection of > tracks. I ordered mine as soon as it was advertised and got the second > edition with an apology for the delay, which mentioned, and I quote from > memory, "due to complaints Dave Brock has remixed the album". What the > complaints were I have no idea. > > However, I later picked up an original in Andy G's old Lotus Records for a > fiver. Track listing is thus: > > Side 1 > > Flying Doctor (Hawklords '78, same version as Friends & Relations 3) > Back on the Streets (same as later version) > City of Lagoons (same as later version) > (Quark, Strangeness & Charm album USA radio promo - not listed on sleeve) > Paranoia (this 1976 version not released anywhere else, as far as I know). > Back on the Streets (same version as above, edited) > > Side 2 same as later release. > > > Cover art same as later release, except spine and tape label read > 'Hawkwind/Hawklords'. > > Any clearer? > > Captain Bl at ck > From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 22 17:22:24 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:22:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird 5 and Red Shift Message-ID: Colin faints on finding that Mike does not have something:) ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 8:44 PM Subject: Re: HW: Weird 5 and Red Shift > david.... > > I have it.... > > give me a week, possibly 2,,,,, > > I will definately help.....save my email address... > > and Colin, looks like Capatain Black pointed out you are looking for that > which I don't have.... > > must bug him for Paranoia..... > > later... > > M c > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 22 17:32:45 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:32:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird 5 Message-ID: Write to Wolden Studios (though they may have metamorphosed into something else by now). They were still marketing Wierd Tapes a couple of years back and sent me a copy of the original Wierd Tape 5 when I wrote and asked for one! There's even a possibility I've still got an address for them. Somewhere........... jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Allen To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:54 AM Subject: HW: Weird 5 > I am still looking for a copy of the original release of Weird Tape 5. > Someone out there must have one! > > COLIN > From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 22 17:42:03 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:42:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird 5 Message-ID: Ye Gods! Are they still going???? I sort of assumed that they had folded centuries ago!! Thanks, COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:32 PM Subject: Re: HW: Weird 5 > Write to Wolden Studios (though they may have metamorphosed into > something else by now). They were still marketing Wierd Tapes a > couple of years back and sent me a copy of the original Wierd Tape 5 > when I wrote and asked for one! > > There's even a possibility I've still got an address for them. > Somewhere........... > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colin Allen > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:54 AM > Subject: HW: Weird 5 > > > > I am still looking for a copy of the original release of Weird > Tape 5. > > Someone out there must have one! > > > > COLIN > > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue May 22 14:41:53 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:41:53 +0100 Subject: SpaceBrock Message-ID: Might have been me if you're in UK Andy G (CD Services) andygee at dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "alan day" To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:50 AM Subject: SpaceBrock > Can the guys who sent me the message saying they had SpaceBrock cd in stock > please send the info again as I deleted the message by mistake!sorry!YAD > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue May 22 17:39:06 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:39:06 +0100 Subject: Spacebrock & Weird 6 Message-ID: Weird 6 has been 'jumped on' by some musicians preventing a repress - who that is, no-one is saying. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Alley" To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 2:39 PM Subject: Spacebrock & Weird 6 > I am fairly new to the list and I hate to beat a dead horse BUT-I > purchased Spacebrock when it was released and how do you know if you > have one the mispressed discs that there is so much discussion about?And From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue May 22 17:37:17 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:37:17 +0100 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: agreed except I would say the Space Ritual is pretty near indispensable which makes the disappointment of 'Past Or Future' a harder one to explain, espec ially considering the potentially fantastic track list. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barton" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 2:32 PM Subject: Re: HW: Nik thoughts > Nick Medford wrote: > > > On the subject of Nik: what is the deal with "Nik's Space Ritual", "Past or > > Future", "Prophets Of Time" etc? Could anyone post comments on these > > albums... I'd like to hear them but I'm a bit too sceptical of the whole > > "Nik-rehashes-his-glorious-past...again" bit to just go out on a limb. > > My opinions: > > Space Ritual - very good. > Past or Future - get it for the wonderful version of Opa-Loka. > Prophets Of Time I can take or leave... > > Keef From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue May 22 17:57:26 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:57:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts In-Reply-To: <022201c0d0d0$5300a4e0$dc16bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > isn't it all a bit like the Roger Waters vs Dave Gilmour split down the > middle where both reckoned they had the right to use Pink Floyd - there, the > mystery was why it went to Gilmour as he was NOT an original member of the > band - so maybe it's not as clear cut as it seems. Now, as it's appeared in interviews I've read that isn't quite fair: Roger held that Pink Floyd was dead and that therefore he had the right to stop any of the others using the name. He's never shown any signs of wanting to use it himself unless you count this _Is There Anybody Out There?_ album, which is at least old Floyd. As I recall from the same it wasn't Gilmour's claim that was decisive, but the fact that he had not only Mason, but eventually Wright, in his band too. The judges ruled that the two latter outweighed Roger's claim to be a required part of Floyd and therefore to be able to stop it happening. Of course, when you start comparing the nineties output of Floyd to that of Hawkwind and spin-offs, it becomes clear that we haven't got *that* much to moan about :-) Yours, Jon ObTapeofCD: Alan Davey - _Bedouin_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue May 22 18:15:06 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:15:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin/Alan Davey stuff In-Reply-To: <02e901c0ab19$02a56620$0d02a8c0@tnt2> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Neil Ward wrote: > Alan then wanted Bedouin to play some gigs Feb/March, but did not want to > book anything which might clash with Hawkwind dates, so they got held off > until the Hawk dates were confirmed. This is why there was no chance of him > playing the Cambridge Rock Society gig in early March, which he was not > actually contacted about properly until mid/late January. He is still > willing to play this or any other venue, but only if they don't clash with > any proposed future Hawkwind dates, other projects, etc. He said he was > still waiting to hear back from the promoters confirming the Cambridge gig, > and very much resents being accused of 'he couldn't be arsed to sort out a > gig in Cambridge' by some. (There, I've put it in nice words rather than > quoting Alan directly :-) ) Well, since I've just found this lying in the lesser-trod portions of my INBOX (which you may have noticed have been undergoing a clearout lately), I felt I should post a review of that there gig that eventually did get organised. Obviously it's not impartial :-) But this will be going up on that BBS I usually write my reviews for, and so though it preaches to knowlessmen I thought some of you might be interested anyway... Subject: Bedouin + The Nova Express, Cambridge Boat Race, 18/05/01 "Okay, it's difficult to be dispassionate about this one considering I started it. Andy Hudson did the work but I linked the people up. You may therefore be unsurprised to discover I thought it was great. Do I ever go to a bad gig, you may be asking? Well of course not! Why would you? I can't afford many gigs, I make bloody sure I go and see good bands. And Hawkwind of course but just lately they've been on the nail anyway. "This sort of gets me onto the actual gig of which I speak, in that Alan Davey, who is Bedouin's main man and plays the bass and sings, is also in Hawkwind. But first, The Nova Express. Paul Simmons, their guitarist, had described them to me as noisy punk acid folk sort of stuff with female vocals, and that was all I knew as they took the stage except that the drummer looked like a dweeb but was apparently going out with the clearly personality- and brains-full singer. So I was quite pleasantly surprised to find that they sounded a lot like a punk band founded by and sung for by Tori Amos. The singer wasn't as good as Tori or anything but she sounded that way, and on an empirical scale she was pretty good. Everything from the jagged-edge gasping sigh through the achingly sweet melodic melancholy to the full-out teeth-bared punk bitch yell. But she had pigtails. And her other problem was being upstaged by Paul. He is really an excellent guitarist. Psychedelic doesn't cover it. He plays beautifully. And also riffs like a so-and-so. At different points, and sometimes even at the same ones. His technical ability may not be as good as say, Bari Watts or Steve Hillage, to name two psych guitar kings, but his diversity of styles is massive and he seems natural with it. He played one song with a bow. He also has a ruddy huge Orange amp which always helps. But she kept attention on herself when he wasn't soloing. Her face doesn't carry as much as her voice so watching her was slightly odd. Also she sang to the drummer a lot of the time so the audience had to look at her rear. Nice enough but that's not the point as far as expressing your words goes. "I did like her attitude though. Brought up there for no money worth mentioning to do a gig for a different band's slot, she had them do an Alchemysts number, `so you can hear what that sounds like. When it's done properly.' And they made several new fans. Their set-list, as she wrote it down, was: 2 Bit Punk/ Clone Star/ Electro (the Alchemysts number)/ False Ramblin/ Ten Lions/ She Moves through the Fair (yes that one, done in 4/4 with guitar breaks). So if you get a chance go see them, they're good. Album out some time soon. "Bedouin get better every time I see them. As I said to Alan. To which he said, `That's the point, isn't it?' But they were bloody good. Bedouin sound, often, like a psychedelic Motorhead. Except that they occasionally attempt to sound vaguely Arabic, and their songs go on for longer and have more complexity. But in terms of speed and attack, they're in that space. With the synths up as well there doesn't come any more high-octane a brand of space rock than this. How it should be done. And they didn't disappoint. Danny Thompson isn't the best drummer in the world but he's good enough now. Glenn Povey isn't the greatest guitarist in the world but he's getting better than just being a Fast Eddie Clarke replica as he used to be and that was still quite good. Alan plays very well indeed as long as you're not one of these bass pedants who thinks that treating it like a guitar is a bad thing to do. He can't sing but neither can Lemmy (no small influence on Mr. Davey). "I think what's worth mentioning more than that they kicked our behinds brutally and that `ya know, it's a good kind of hurt,' and things like that, that their sense of light and shade has developed in the years they've been on the road (which are, even in this line-up, beginning to approach three with no bloody album out yet - Alan's ideas about promotion are rather old-fashioned, he won't release an album until he has a good deal and he won't have his stuff up for download, which as we know basically radio play to targeted listeners as far a promotion goes, so there's naff-all product except CD-Rs going for a tenner with sub-album material on them... mmm.) and that they play more interesting stuff than Motorhead who nevertheless remain their closest point of comparison. So if that sounds good try and catch them. I did and I still hurt from moshing in a state of utter but uncaring fatigue. Album will be out in August, he says. "Set-list was, for those in the know about such things: LSD (Hawkwind number of Alan's)/ Say Goodbye to Babylon/ Rock Palace/ As Above So Below (this is such a good song)/ Air Space/ Elric Pt. 2 (Hawkwind again)/ One Moon Circles/ Demons in Denial/ Wings (another Hawkwind song transformed by the Bedouin arrangement)/ Sputnik Stan/ Dagger Dance/ Vision Quest// Chasing the Dragon. Which missed out nothing I wanted to hear except maybe `Arioch' and `The Call' but believe me I?m not complaining. 18/20." Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Tue May 22 21:25:48 2001 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Erebus) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 18:25:48 -0700 Subject: BOC: Has anyone heard Pocket? Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:19 AM Subject: BOC: Has anyone heard Pocket? > IIRC, the single was supposed to be released today. Anyone catch it yet? > Impressions? > Not on radio, they would never play it where I live anyway. But for those who want an advance listen, you can hear a minute or so sample of Pocket at CMC. Erebus From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 22 22:51:04 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:21:04 +0930 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: I have an vinyl copy of The Warrior album. Where does one find the hair if he was looking and what does it mean? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:52 AM Subject: Re: HW:red shift + interstellar chaos > have copies of both of these (if I wasn't clear....possibly only 1 or 2 > red-shift) > > where's hairless warrior....???? > > > "curse and damn you, all you fall by the hands of the sinner"... > > (but I'll lift you out of the pit when the Warrior is delivered) > > mike c, who is JOKING ....(but not about bainbridge stash) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 23 00:09:16 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:39:16 +0930 Subject: The Immortal Andy G - Hawkwind related Message-ID: Distant Horizons now on the stereo - nice one Andy - thanks!!! I was recently wondering : upon which album was the track Love in Space released. - Distant Horizons I have surmized :0} Oh dear - look at the time - I'm late for my ritual midday spanking - Jezebella will be cross 8>) From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Wed May 23 02:04:01 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:04:01 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind: why I luv thee :) Message-ID: amen Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: 22 May 2001 17:51 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Hawkwind: why I luv thee :) 1) Thou makest the music of the Gods - and it is good 2) Thou hast the power to set minds free - and that is good 3) Creativity to inspire generations to greatness - that is groovy 4) They art true to their nature - that is divine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BECAUSE<<<<<<<<<<< The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed May 23 03:41:46 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 02:41:46 -0500 Subject: Space for Music Message-ID: Speaking of festivals. Does anyone know if anything is going on in N.E. ohio or in the vicinity this summer? NO STRANGE DAZE:-(((( Is anything else going on? CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson [mailto:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:34 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Space for Music Hi Folks... FYI. I suppose Karen might be interested in going to this at least. Spacecraft (Kentucky-based) is the only artist I know here, but they alone would make it worthwhile. Grakkl (FAA) ******************************************************* SpaceforMusic Festival 2001 Saturday, May 26th 6pm, 2001 Miramar Theatre Milwaukee, WI ******************************************************* SpaceforMusic.com Concerts is proud to present it's first annual space music festival for the new millennium, Space for Music Festival 2001! All of the artists performing in this event have CDs released from the Space for Music label. We look forward to presenting some of the finest space/ambient musicians working in the US today. Performances will also include visual projections from several of the artists. Also featured will be original paintings by Chris Short of Ma Ja Le. Also look forward to an extensive collection of merchandise to be available from these artists including products not currently available elsewhere. SCHEDULE 6:00pm to 6:45pm - Giles Reaves 7:00pm to 8:00pm - Vir Unis w/special guest Interstitial 8:15pm to 9:30pm - Ma Ja Le / J. Johnson 9:45pm to 11:00pm - Spacecraft 11:00pm to 11:30pm - All star Jam From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Wed May 23 04:00:24 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:00:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin/Alan Davey stuff Message-ID: Saw them at Newcastle under Lyme two weeks ago and totally agree with you. Bedouin are awesome and need to get a cd out soon. Rob >From: Jon Jarrett >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin/Alan Davey stuff >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:15:06 +0100 > >On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Neil Ward wrote: > > > Alan then wanted Bedouin to play some gigs Feb/March, but did not want >to > > book anything which might clash with Hawkwind dates, so they got held >off > > until the Hawk dates were confirmed. This is why there was no chance of >him > > playing the Cambridge Rock Society gig in early March, which he was not > > actually contacted about properly until mid/late January. He is still > > willing to play this or any other venue, but only if they don't clash >with > > any proposed future Hawkwind dates, other projects, etc. He said he was > > still waiting to hear back from the promoters confirming the Cambridge >gig, > > and very much resents being accused of 'he couldn't be arsed to sort out >a > > gig in Cambridge' by some. (There, I've put it in nice words rather than > > quoting Alan directly :-) ) > > Well, since I've just found this lying in the lesser-trod portions >of my INBOX (which you may have noticed have been undergoing a clearout >lately), I felt I should post a review of that there gig that eventually >did get organised. Obviously it's not impartial :-) But this will be going >up on that BBS I usually write my reviews for, and so though it preaches >to knowlessmen I thought some of you might be interested anyway... > >Subject: Bedouin + The Nova Express, Cambridge Boat Race, 18/05/01 > > "Okay, it's difficult to be dispassionate about this one >considering I started it. Andy Hudson did the work but I linked the people >up. You may therefore be unsurprised to discover I thought it was great. >Do I ever go to a bad gig, you may be asking? Well of course not! Why >would you? I can't afford many gigs, I make bloody sure I go and see good >bands. And Hawkwind of course but just lately they've been on the nail >anyway. > > "This sort of gets me onto the actual gig of which I speak, in >that Alan Davey, who is Bedouin's main man and plays the bass and sings, >is also in Hawkwind. But first, The Nova Express. Paul Simmons, their >guitarist, had described them to me as noisy punk acid folk sort of stuff >with female vocals, and that was all I knew as they took the stage except >that the drummer looked like a dweeb but was apparently going out with the >clearly personality- and brains-full singer. So I was quite pleasantly >surprised to find that they sounded a lot like a punk band founded by and >sung for by Tori Amos. The singer wasn't as good as Tori or anything but >she sounded that way, and on an empirical scale she was pretty good. >Everything from the jagged-edge gasping sigh through the achingly sweet >melodic melancholy to the full-out teeth-bared punk bitch yell. But she >had pigtails. And her other problem was being upstaged by Paul. He is >really an excellent guitarist. Psychedelic doesn't cover it. He plays >beautifully. And also riffs like a so-and-so. At different points, and >sometimes even at the same ones. His technical ability may not be as good >as say, Bari Watts or Steve Hillage, to name two psych guitar kings, but >his diversity of styles is massive and he seems natural with it. He played >one song with a bow. He also has a ruddy huge Orange amp which always >helps. But she kept attention on herself when he wasn't soloing. Her face >doesn't carry as much as her voice so watching her was slightly odd. Also >she sang to the drummer a lot of the time so the audience had to look at >her rear. Nice enough but that's not the point as far as expressing your >words goes. > > "I did like her attitude though. Brought up there for no money >worth mentioning to do a gig for a different band's slot, she had them do >an Alchemysts number, `so you can hear what that sounds like. When it's >done properly.' And they made several new fans. Their set-list, as she >wrote it down, was: 2 Bit Punk/ Clone Star/ Electro (the Alchemysts >number)/ False Ramblin/ Ten Lions/ She Moves through the Fair (yes that >one, done in 4/4 with guitar breaks). So if you get a chance go see them, >they're good. Album out some time soon. > > "Bedouin get better every time I see them. As I said to Alan. To >which he said, `That's the point, isn't it?' But they were bloody good. >Bedouin sound, often, like a psychedelic Motorhead. Except that they >occasionally attempt to sound vaguely Arabic, and their songs go on for >longer and have more complexity. But in terms of speed and attack, they're >in that space. With the synths up as well there doesn't come any more >high-octane a brand of space rock than this. How it should be done. And >they didn't disappoint. Danny Thompson isn't the best drummer in the world >but he's good enough now. Glenn Povey isn't the greatest guitarist in the >world but he's getting better than just being a Fast Eddie Clarke replica >as he used to be and that was still quite good. Alan plays very well >indeed as long as you're not one of these bass pedants who thinks that >treating it like a guitar is a bad thing to do. He can't sing but neither >can Lemmy (no small influence on Mr. Davey). > > "I think what's worth mentioning more than that they kicked our >behinds brutally and that `ya know, it's a good kind of hurt,' and things >like that, that their sense of light and shade has developed in the years >they've been on the road (which are, even in this line-up, beginning to >approach three with no bloody album out yet - Alan's ideas about promotion >are rather old-fashioned, he won't release an album until he has a good >deal and he won't have his stuff up for download, which as we know >basically radio play to targeted listeners as far a promotion goes, so >there's naff-all product except CD-Rs going for a tenner with sub-album >material on them... mmm.) and that they play more interesting stuff than >Motorhead who nevertheless remain their closest point of comparison. So if >that sounds good try and catch them. I did and I still hurt from moshing >in a state of utter but uncaring fatigue. Album will be out in August, he >says. > > "Set-list was, for those in the know about such things: LSD >(Hawkwind number of Alan's)/ Say Goodbye to Babylon/ Rock Palace/ As Above >So Below (this is such a good song)/ Air Space/ Elric Pt. 2 (Hawkwind >again)/ One Moon Circles/ Demons in Denial/ Wings (another Hawkwind song >transformed by the Bedouin arrangement)/ Sputnik Stan/ Dagger Dance/ >Vision Quest// Chasing the Dragon. Which missed out nothing I wanted to >hear except maybe `Arioch' and `The Call' but believe me I?m not >complaining. 18/20." > > Yours, > Jon >-- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 23 07:35:59 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:35:59 -0400 Subject: HW: 1984 recordings Message-ID: Various live bits, apparently from 1984, seem to exist on official or semi- official releases. Does anybody happen to know which concert(s) these are from? Regards, COLIN From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Wed May 23 07:44:26 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:44:26 -0400 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: > I get the impression he sort of lost interest in playing bass when he started playing keys/synths. > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com I vaguely remember reading an interview or something at the time where it was said that he swapped his bass for some synths simply because he wanted to be a synth player. Alastair. From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed May 23 08:25:54 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 08:25:54 -0400 Subject: BOC: Has anyone heard Pocket? In-Reply-To: <009a01c0e327$4df4ea60$ec298e8b@dlcwest.com> Message-ID: >> IIRC, the single was supposed to be released today. Anyone catch it yet? >> Impressions? >> > > Not on radio, they would never play it where I live anyway. But for those > who want an advance listen, you can hear a minute or so sample of Pocket at > CMC. > > Erebus Great! Thanks for the tip. I've never bothered to click on the "Multimedia" button before...there's a great band pic there too (the middle one out of three). Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed May 23 11:51:29 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (MSH) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:51:29 -0400 Subject: BOC: Competition to the BOC Remasters Message-ID: Said VERY Tongue in cheek: In celebration of Madonna's upcoming "Drowned World" summer tour, Warner Bros. Records has released re-mastered versions of her first three albums on CD: "Madonna," "Like A Virgin" and "True Blue." Each CD features two bonus cuts, adding more than 10 minutes of long sought-after dance remixes, never before available on the original albums. The bonus tracks on "Madonna" are "Burning Up (12-inch Version)" and "Lucky Star (New Mix)." "Like A Virgin" features extended dance remixes of "Like A Virgin" and "Material Girl," while "True Blue" includes "La Isla Bonita (Extended Remix)" as well as the "Color Mix" version of the title track. "Music," Madonna's current album, has sold more than 10 million copies worldwide and reached No. 1 on the Billboard album charts. The first two singles hit the Top 10, and her current single, "What It Feels Like For A Girl," is still climbing.. Now I am worried....... Mike ________________________ "The miracle is not to fly in the air, or to walk on the water, but to walk on the earth." Chinese Proverb From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed May 23 10:58:48 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:58:48 -0400 Subject: Space for Music/Strange Daze Message-ID: >Speaking of festivals. Does anyone know if anything is going on in N.E. ohio >or in the vicinity this summer? NO STRANGE DAZE:-(((( Is anything else going >on? CHEERS STEPHE Jim is trying to organise a travelling indoor show, kinda like last year pre-Strange Daze, with Harvey again, Mr. Quimby's Beard, and a 'host' band for each city. Like Skye Klad in Minny, Quarkspace here in Col's, AP/BtG/Sloterdijk I imagine in NYC/Phila., etc. But I think the actual SD events at the Ledges are sadly over. :( This tour would be circa October I believe. Grakkl (FAA) From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Wed May 23 12:12:00 2001 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:12:00 +0200 Subject: HW: 1984 recordings In-Reply-To: <200105231136.HAA15566@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: They should, of course, have the tapes that where used for Do Not Panic but I remember talks of recording the Hammersmith shows for an "Earth Ritual". I don't know if that ever happened. Kenneth >Various live bits, apparently from 1984, seem to exist on official or semi- >official releases. Does anybody happen to know which concert(s) these are >from? > >Regards, > >COLIN ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed May 23 12:28:10 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:28:10 -0500 Subject: Space for Music/Strange Daze Message-ID: YES, I am aware of this. I was wondering about any summer fests. My job is slow when school is out so I was hoping I could find something during the summer. I guess I could find a DEADHEAD fest. Plenty of those around. I'm not really into the dead, so I was hoping for something more. THANK YOU for the input though. Is there going to be a QUARKSTOCK this year? CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson [mailto:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:59 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Space for Music/Strange Daze >Speaking of festivals. Does anyone know if anything is going on in N.E. ohio >or in the vicinity this summer? NO STRANGE DAZE:-(((( Is anything else going >on? CHEERS STEPHE Jim is trying to organise a travelling indoor show, kinda like last year pre-Strange Daze, with Harvey again, Mr. Quimby's Beard, and a 'host' band for each city. Like Skye Klad in Minny, Quarkspace here in Col's, AP/BtG/Sloterdijk I imagine in NYC/Phila., etc. But I think the actual SD events at the Ledges are sadly over. :( This tour would be circa October I believe. Grakkl (FAA) From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed May 23 13:32:23 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:32:23 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <200105231144.HAA15656@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200105231144.HAA15656 at listserv.spc.edu>, Alastair Lee Sumner writes >I vaguely remember reading an interview or something at the time where it >was said that he swapped his bass for some synths simply because he wanted >to be a synth player. Although I saw another interview (in fact it might be the one on www.hawkwind.com) where he was asked, why the switch from bass to keyboards, and he said simply "Alan Davey joined the band!" So I wondered if the switch was to a certain extent forced on him. -- Nick Medford From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 23 13:57:08 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:57:08 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford > In message <200105231144.HAA15656 at listserv.spc.edu>, Alastair Lee > Sumner writes > >I vaguely remember reading an interview or something at the time where it > >was said that he swapped his bass for some synths simply because he wanted > >to be a synth player. > > Although I saw another interview (in fact it might be the one on > www.hawkwind.com) where he was asked, why the switch from bass to > keyboards, and he said simply "Alan Davey joined the band!" So I wondered > if the switch was to a certain extent forced on him. I think Harvey always struggled a bit with the HW Bass parts...didn't Huw have to play some bass on Choose Your Masques because of this? Ian From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Wed May 23 15:12:03 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:12:03 -0600 Subject: Space for Music/Strange Daze In-Reply-To: <200105231611.MAA18644@mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: If the tour comes to Santa Fe, I'd recommend our local band "The Blood Drained Cows." Mark -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: Space for Music/Strange Daze >Speaking of festivals. Does anyone know if anything is going on in N.E. ohio >or in the vicinity this summer? NO STRANGE DAZE:-(((( Is anything else going >on? CHEERS STEPHE Jim is trying to organise a travelling indoor show, kinda like last year pre-Strange Daze, with Harvey again, Mr. Quimby's Beard, and a 'host' band for each city. Like Skye Klad in Minny, Quarkspace here in Col's, AP/BtG/Sloterdijk I imagine in NYC/Phila., etc. But I think the actual SD events at the Ledges are sadly over. :( From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed May 23 16:35:11 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:35:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Attention To Detail.... Message-ID: Mike C, Yeah, black log wins every time over a blue or green(ish) one, so I'll happily do a straight swap. Used to have a foriegn Grill (Spanish, I think). Back sleeve still had the Hardy landscape but had a half inch white border. Title on front in slightly different position. Brian Tawn is now the proud owner of that item. Started collecting HW in about 75, but didn't start buying on day of release until Lev / Live 79 and then stopped when things started getting silly in '86. Ridicule was the straw that broke the camel's back. The first HW LP I DIDN'T buy was Early Daze. This explains why I had all the Calvert stuff. Anybody after the 1987 Flicknife box-set? 3 pic-disks & interview LP? Still trying to find a home for Samarai 1986 bike shaped Silver Machine. Here's something I've not mentioned before. I've got a 9 by 5 (ish) white cardboard promo card for 1st LP. Content is original back sleeve messages "groove groove" etc. The fact that the HW logo is green & red makes me think that it actually belongs to Rockfile re-issue, anybody confirm? Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Annoyance C To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: Re: HW: Attention To Detail.... > re Magno: > > you are a sharp one indeed.......(it IS SO) > > Live Chrons for you... > > Care for a "more visible" Log cover??? > > what will this cost in addition???? > > did you get that Warrior colored in yet??? (only kidding Jez) > > and > > > Come in please Mr.Farflung.... > > I owe you a costly something.... > > PS....(JD) so why does your lot include all that I want???? how'd you do > it??? > > > and for the sake of this POST to be redeemed....... > > dear Sikk Rikk, and all "watchers of detalium".....if you happen upon a > "URUGUAYAN" (spelling NOT included) Hall Of The Mountain Grill, it has a > different back cover, which is the photos from the inner sleeve..... > > you'll (somebody will, no doubt) be completely overwhelmed with ecstasy to > know that Mike Coleman neither owns this item, nor has ever even come close > to seeing it, but I know that Mick Bryceland has a copy....... > > and THAT is REALITY YOU CAN RELY ON................. > > > m > > PS--I spelled it right > From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Wed May 23 17:24:46 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:24:46 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: I remember the description in Kris Tait's book "This Is Hawkwind Do Not Panic" where Ginger Baker slated Harvey's bass playing. Ginger left as a result of this row, and I got the impression that it undermined Harvey's confidence in himself, on bass anyway. Moonglum ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Abrahams To: Sent: 23 May 2001 18:57 Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > I think Harvey always struggled a bit with the HW Bass parts...didn't Huw > have to play some bass on Choose Your Masques because of this? > > Ian > From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 23 18:08:51 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 23:08:51 +0100 Subject: HW: 1984 recordings Message-ID: I believe that the Hammersmith shows were recorded but have no idea what may have happened to the tapes! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Magnusson" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:12 PM Subject: Re: HW: 1984 recordings > They should, of course, have the tapes that where used for Do Not > Panic but I remember talks of recording the Hammersmith shows for an > "Earth Ritual". I don't know if that ever happened. > > Kenneth > > >Various live bits, apparently from 1984, seem to exist on official or semi- > >official releases. Does anybody happen to know which concert(s) these are > >from? > > > >Regards, > > > >COLIN > > ------- > Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ > The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 23 19:25:16 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 17:25:16 -0600 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <002c01c0e3ce$d2f95e60$f0e52ac2@wznhfnxm> Message-ID: The Crystal Ball has images of Harvey in it..... If I cleaned the glass enough, not positive, but ...... you may want to wash up before dinner... m From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 23 18:41:37 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 23:41:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin/Alan Davey stuff Message-ID: July should see the Bedouin CD out. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rob burton" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:00 AM Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin/Alan Davey stuff > Saw them at Newcastle under Lyme two weeks ago and totally agree with you. > Bedouin are awesome and need to get a cd out soon. > > Rob > > > >From: Jon Jarrett > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin/Alan Davey stuff > >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:15:06 +0100 > > > >On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Neil Ward wrote: > > > > > Alan then wanted Bedouin to play some gigs Feb/March, but did not want > >to > > > book anything which might clash with Hawkwind dates, so they got held > >off > > > until the Hawk dates were confirmed. This is why there was no chance of > >him > > > playing the Cambridge Rock Society gig in early March, which he was not > > > actually contacted about properly until mid/late January. He is still > > > willing to play this or any other venue, but only if they don't clash > >with > > > any proposed future Hawkwind dates, other projects, etc. He said he was > > > still waiting to hear back from the promoters confirming the Cambridge > >gig, > > > and very much resents being accused of 'he couldn't be arsed to sort out > >a > > > gig in Cambridge' by some. (There, I've put it in nice words rather than > > > quoting Alan directly :-) ) > > > > Well, since I've just found this lying in the lesser-trod portions > >of my INBOX (which you may have noticed have been undergoing a clearout > >lately), I felt I should post a review of that there gig that eventually > >did get organised. Obviously it's not impartial :-) But this will be going > >up on that BBS I usually write my reviews for, and so though it preaches > >to knowlessmen I thought some of you might be interested anyway... > > > >Subject: Bedouin + The Nova Express, Cambridge Boat Race, 18/05/01 > > > > "Okay, it's difficult to be dispassionate about this one > >considering I started it. Andy Hudson did the work but I linked the people > >up. You may therefore be unsurprised to discover I thought it was great. > >Do I ever go to a bad gig, you may be asking? Well of course not! Why > >would you? I can't afford many gigs, I make bloody sure I go and see good > >bands. And Hawkwind of course but just lately they've been on the nail > >anyway. > > > > "This sort of gets me onto the actual gig of which I speak, in > >that Alan Davey, who is Bedouin's main man and plays the bass and sings, > >is also in Hawkwind. But first, The Nova Express. Paul Simmons, their > >guitarist, had described them to me as noisy punk acid folk sort of stuff > >with female vocals, and that was all I knew as they took the stage except > >that the drummer looked like a dweeb but was apparently going out with the > >clearly personality- and brains-full singer. So I was quite pleasantly > >surprised to find that they sounded a lot like a punk band founded by and > >sung for by Tori Amos. The singer wasn't as good as Tori or anything but > >she sounded that way, and on an empirical scale she was pretty good. > >Everything from the jagged-edge gasping sigh through the achingly sweet > >melodic melancholy to the full-out teeth-bared punk bitch yell. But she > >had pigtails. And her other problem was being upstaged by Paul. He is > >really an excellent guitarist. Psychedelic doesn't cover it. He plays > >beautifully. And also riffs like a so-and-so. At different points, and > >sometimes even at the same ones. His technical ability may not be as good > >as say, Bari Watts or Steve Hillage, to name two psych guitar kings, but > >his diversity of styles is massive and he seems natural with it. He played > >one song with a bow. He also has a ruddy huge Orange amp which always > >helps. But she kept attention on herself when he wasn't soloing. Her face > >doesn't carry as much as her voice so watching her was slightly odd. Also > >she sang to the drummer a lot of the time so the audience had to look at > >her rear. Nice enough but that's not the point as far as expressing your > >words goes. > > > > "I did like her attitude though. Brought up there for no money > >worth mentioning to do a gig for a different band's slot, she had them do > >an Alchemysts number, `so you can hear what that sounds like. When it's > >done properly.' And they made several new fans. Their set-list, as she > >wrote it down, was: 2 Bit Punk/ Clone Star/ Electro (the Alchemysts > >number)/ False Ramblin/ Ten Lions/ She Moves through the Fair (yes that > >one, done in 4/4 with guitar breaks). So if you get a chance go see them, > >they're good. Album out some time soon. > > > > "Bedouin get better every time I see them. As I said to Alan. To > >which he said, `That's the point, isn't it?' But they were bloody good. > >Bedouin sound, often, like a psychedelic Motorhead. Except that they > >occasionally attempt to sound vaguely Arabic, and their songs go on for > >longer and have more complexity. But in terms of speed and attack, they're > >in that space. With the synths up as well there doesn't come any more > >high-octane a brand of space rock than this. How it should be done. And > >they didn't disappoint. Danny Thompson isn't the best drummer in the world > >but he's good enough now. Glenn Povey isn't the greatest guitarist in the > >world but he's getting better than just being a Fast Eddie Clarke replica > >as he used to be and that was still quite good. Alan plays very well > >indeed as long as you're not one of these bass pedants who thinks that > >treating it like a guitar is a bad thing to do. He can't sing but neither > >can Lemmy (no small influence on Mr. Davey). > > > > "I think what's worth mentioning more than that they kicked our > >behinds brutally and that `ya know, it's a good kind of hurt,' and things > >like that, that their sense of light and shade has developed in the years > >they've been on the road (which are, even in this line-up, beginning to > >approach three with no bloody album out yet - Alan's ideas about promotion > >are rather old-fashioned, he won't release an album until he has a good > >deal and he won't have his stuff up for download, which as we know > >basically radio play to targeted listeners as far a promotion goes, so > >there's naff-all product except CD-Rs going for a tenner with sub-album > >material on them... mmm.) and that they play more interesting stuff than > >Motorhead who nevertheless remain their closest point of comparison. So if > >that sounds good try and catch them. I did and I still hurt from moshing > >in a state of utter but uncaring fatigue. Album will be out in August, he > >says. > > > > "Set-list was, for those in the know about such things: LSD > >(Hawkwind number of Alan's)/ Say Goodbye to Babylon/ Rock Palace/ As Above > >So Below (this is such a good song)/ Air Space/ Elric Pt. 2 (Hawkwind > >again)/ One Moon Circles/ Demons in Denial/ Wings (another Hawkwind song > >transformed by the Bedouin arrangement)/ Sputnik Stan/ Dagger Dance/ > >Vision Quest// Chasing the Dragon. Which missed out nothing I wanted to > >hear except maybe `Arioch' and `The Call' but believe me I'm not > >complaining. 18/20." > > > > Yours, > > Jon > >-- > > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > ===================================================================== > > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 23 20:11:43 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:11:43 -0600 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thoughts on Harvey bass: I figure that if Baker was ejected, on account of super-group suggestions to Dave, then he probably willfully slid over for the combination of allowing a new member, digging further into the synth, get "comfortable" , and have a good time..... Mike, who is also interested in such things...... From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 23 20:22:48 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:22:48 -0600 Subject: Space for Music/Strange Daze In-Reply-To: Message-ID: original message from M. Licht: "If the tour comes to Santa Fe, I'd recommend our local band "The Blood Drained Cows." Mark....is this your project???? it sounds right down the lane...... are they something I want to collect?? is there anything??? will you be acting manager???? what a great title for guys in such a befitting locale....... are there any weird happenings your way lately, or is it mostly the laurels of a stranger past????? Did you ever locate any vents in the rocks???? are the Bulbheads operating under your feat???? should will kill the evil monsters at first sight???? mike or should we dance in vatted human body-part delight???? From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Wed May 23 19:37:10 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 00:37:10 +0100 Subject: Travelling at the speed of space Message-ID: Hi there My question is theres a bootleg called "Travelling at the speed of space" do you know a what gig that was recorded??? cheers Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Wed May 23 20:49:49 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:49:49 +1200 Subject: A Sign From Space In-Reply-To: <200105230801.EAA15335@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Just arrived at Cranium Music is the following: CHAIN, PAUL SIGN FROM SPACE This is your captain speaking. Prepare the ship for lift off. We have received a sign from space and we will be passing through parts 1 to 4. Crew, be prepared to meet space rock head on as we pass through the four parts .... and remember we take no prisoners. "Sign From Space" is a full on space rock assault from Paul Chain on Bass, Synth, Keyboards, Bass Pedal, Special Effects & Vocals and he is assisted by Alex Vasini on Guitar and Danilo Savanas on Drums & Percussion. This is like HAWKWIND 'Lemmy' era space rock at its best. Climb onboard, play loud and blast off to outer space. Highly Recommended. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 23 23:28:04 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:58:04 +0930 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: I've never heard any bad bass playing from the man ----- Original Message ----- From: Moonglum To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 6:54 AM Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > I remember the description in Kris Tait's book "This Is Hawkwind Do Not > Panic" where Ginger Baker slated Harvey's bass playing. Ginger left as a > result of this row, and I got the impression that it undermined Harvey's > confidence in himself, on bass anyway. > > Moonglum > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ian Abrahams > To: > Sent: 23 May 2001 18:57 > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > > > I think Harvey always struggled a bit with the HW Bass parts...didn't Huw > > have to play some bass on Choose Your Masques because of this? > > > > Ian > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 23 23:29:35 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:59:35 +0930 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: > The Crystal Ball has images of Harvey in it..... So does mine!!! > > If I cleaned the glass enough, not positive, but ...... > > you may want to wash up before dinner... why? I'll only get messy right away - steak sauce etc :) > m From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 23 23:36:18 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:06:18 +0930 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Was it the superstar syndrome, which Mr Baker may have had a touch of, which the band seems to have no tolerance for, that caused his leaving? and can someone please let me know if my grammar is correct? commas etc! I, have, never really, been very, good at that stuff;; ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike C To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 9:41 AM Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > thoughts on Harvey bass: > > I figure that if Baker was ejected, on account of super-group suggestions > to Dave, then he probably willfully slid over for the combination of > allowing a new member, digging further into the synth, get "comfortable" , > and have a good time..... > > Mike, who is also interested in such things...... From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed May 23 22:34:11 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:34:11 -0400 Subject: HW: Lounge Ax Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just got the travelling CDR master of this 1989 show, and will soon pass it on to the next name on the list. After one quick listen, a couple questions/comments... 1. Are those annoying screechy bits actually on the recording? My little crappy box CD player isn't making that sound is it? 2. Overall, the recording quality is acceptable, after the obligatory initial few minutes of adjustments during Magnu (sadly). But then there are the nasty screeches (what the hell *are* they? Not normal feedback, that only occurs once here IIRC, it's like a taping error...only lasts a half a second), which (because there are perhaps only 20 or so throughout the entire show) I thought could have been 'removed' by some sort of digital filtering that I know some of you probably could do (?). And then there's the guy talking (during Harvey's quiet bit) about how much acid he took the first time he saw Hawkwind in the 70s or something. :) And there's the break/splice (tape flip?) around Back in the Box/Utopia (I think), and the early cutoff of Hassan I Sahba. No dogs barking tho'. 3. Alan Davey is singing Golden Void here, isn't he? I don't have Palace Springs here to compare, and I can't say I have a good enough memory to say whether he sang it at Toronto and/or Cleveland (the two shows I saw that year), but I was rather surprised it wasn't Dave. Perhaps this was a one-gig 'anomaly' because of a sore throat or something. I have to say though, that he sang it pretty well. I always thought Alan sang *some* HW songs really well, and others really awful (like "Ejection"...ick - wrong voice!). 4. The brief segue/intro guitar bits from Brock on Damnation Alley are awesome here! And I can't remember this little bit from Palace Springs...it's a shame it didn't come through there. 5. That 1989 tour was really awesome, and I appreciate having caught them twice on that tour, including the first North American show in 11 years. That Toronto show was really the first (of many) time(s) that I actually travelled to see a concert, and it was well worth it. Grakkl (FAA) From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 24 01:13:35 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 06:13:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Lounge Ax Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: K Henderson To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 3:34 AM Subject: HW: Lounge Ax > Hi Folks... > > Just got the travelling CDR master of this 1989 show, and will soon pass it > on to the next name on the list. > >And then there's > the guy talking (during Harvey's quiet bit) about how much acid he took the > first time he saw Hawkwind in the 70s or something. :) Now here's a good thread...amusing things heard in the background on bootlegs...like the guy on Ipswich Gaumont 1979 "it's a lot better than the f***ing Hawklords isn't it?"... Please folks..no barking dogs..and lets not mention Ian Abrahams shouting "Bring Back Bob Calvert" on the intro St Austell Colisuem 1982...oops I just did :-) Ian From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu May 24 03:40:02 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 02:40:02 -0500 Subject: Lounge Ax Message-ID: MY copy has those sounds on it too,so it must be the recording.STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson [mailto:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:34 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Lounge Ax Hi Folks... Just got the travelling CDR master of this 1989 show, and will soon pass it on to the next name on the list. After one quick listen, a couple questions/comments... 1. Are those annoying screechy bits actually on the recording? My little crappy box CD player isn't making that sound is it? 2. Overall, the recording quality is acceptable, after the obligatory initial few minutes of adjustments during Magnu (sadly). But then there are the nasty screeches (what the hell *are* they? Not normal feedback, that only occurs once here IIRC, it's like a taping error...only lasts a half a second), which (because there are perhaps only 20 or so throughout the entire show) I thought could have been 'removed' by some sort of digital filtering that I know some of you probably could do (?). And then there's the guy talking (during Harvey's quiet bit) about how much acid he took the first time he saw Hawkwind in the 70s or something. :) And there's the break/splice (tape flip?) around Back in the Box/Utopia (I think), and the early cutoff of Hassan I Sahba. No dogs barking tho'. 3. Alan Davey is singing Golden Void here, isn't he? I don't have Palace Springs here to compare, and I can't say I have a good enough memory to say whether he sang it at Toronto and/or Cleveland (the two shows I saw that year), but I was rather surprised it wasn't Dave. Perhaps this was a one-gig 'anomaly' because of a sore throat or something. I have to say though, that he sang it pretty well. I always thought Alan sang *some* HW songs really well, and others really awful (like "Ejection"...ick - wrong voice!). 4. The brief segue/intro guitar bits from Brock on Damnation Alley are awesome here! And I can't remember this little bit from Palace Springs...it's a shame it didn't come through there. 5. That 1989 tour was really awesome, and I appreciate having caught them twice on that tour, including the first North American show in 11 years. That Toronto show was really the first (of many) time(s) that I actually travelled to see a concert, and it was well worth it. Grakkl (FAA) From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Thu May 24 08:01:53 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:01:53 -0400 Subject: HW: Lounge Ax Message-ID: From: "K Henderson" > Hi Folks... > > Just got the travelling CDR master of this 1989 show, and will soon pass it > on to the next name on the list. > > After one quick listen, a couple questions/comments... > > 1. Are those annoying screechy bits actually on the recording? My little > crappy box CD player isn't making that sound is it? > > 2. Overall, the recording quality is acceptable, after the obligatory > initial few minutes of adjustments during Magnu (sadly). But then there are > the nasty screeches (what the hell *are* they? Not normal feedback, that > only occurs once here IIRC, it's like a taping error...only lasts a half a > second), which (because there are perhaps only 20 or so throughout the > entire show) I thought could have been 'removed' by some sort of digital > filtering that I know some of you probably could do (?). And then there's > the guy talking (during Harvey's quiet bit) about how much acid he took the > first time he saw Hawkwind in the 70s or something. :) And there's the > break/splice (tape flip?) around Back in the Box/Utopia (I think), and the > early cutoff of Hassan I Sahba. No dogs barking tho'. On mine too. I thought that it was artifacts caused from going MP3 to WAV. I don't have the MP3's to see if those noises are on them too or not. What do people use for filtering? I have a Horslips .wav from vinyl that's really bad and a couple of Jane albums I'd like to clean up a little more (pops and clicks mainly). I've tried the demos of DART, Sound Forge, Cool Edit, but they make it sound worse. Some of them end up putting Mike Oldfield type bells in where there were clicks. Jerry From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu May 24 08:26:13 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:26:13 -0400 Subject: BOC, BRAIN: "24th of May..." Message-ID: Happy Birthday Albert T. Bouchard! From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu May 24 08:27:38 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (MSH) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:27:38 -0400 Subject: HW: Lounge Axe Message-ID: Hi all I make no apologies about the consistency of the Lounge Axe show. As I mentioned in my "announcement" email this was garnered off of alt.binaires.Mp3.etc from someone who was doing what was called a "hawkwind flood". The show was delivered as I got it. Overall I thought it was pretty ok qualitywise and mentioned that in the original email. I have neither the time nor inclination to fix this show up. If anyone wants to they are free to contact me for the "original" mp3's. Thanks to all who have been moving this along the vine. Best regards Mike ________________________ "The miracle is not to fly in the air, or to walk on the water, but to walk on the earth." Chinese Proverb From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu May 24 11:54:59 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:54:59 -0400 Subject: OFF: Summer fests Message-ID: Hey... A couple events *are* happening I now hear. June 9th, 2001 in Allentown, PA Chef Geoff Fest (the guy who has always supported space rock fests by providing food services for all the bands/support people...let's return the favor) Quarkspace (Columbus) Nucleon (Cleveland) Arttrak (local, Tangerine Dream-type group) and the Solar Fire Lightshow Held at Planet Trogg, apparently a laser tag place. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Also, here in Chesterville, OH (well, between Columbus and Mansfield) will be the Burning Corn fest, a sort of midwestern answer to the infamous Burning Man fests in Nevada. July 28th - 29th, 2001 are the dates. Probably a bit like the pagan fest thingy at Brushwood (is that on again, Eric? Who's playing?) I imagine. With music as well. Quarkspace will play this year. More info at http://evolution-control.com/burningcorn/ Grakkl (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu May 24 13:34:55 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:34:55 -0400 Subject: OFF: Varuna, new space rock Message-ID: "Watch out for those Red Lectroids, and their bloody trans-dimensional overthrusters." Holy John Bigboute! Grakkl (FAA) Pluto has new, far out peer May 24, 2001 Posted: 2:01 PM EDT (1801 GMT) (CNN) -- The unexpected size of a recently discovered body beyond Pluto has scientists wondering if even larger objects lurk in the depths of the solar system. After Pluto and its moon Charon, Varuna has been identified as the largest known body in the Kuiper Belt, a ring composed of more than 70,000 cold, dark and slow-moving objects beyond the orbit of Neptune, scientists announced Thursday. Using telescopes on a mountain peak in Hawaii, astronomers determined that Varuna has a diameter of about 900 km (550 miles), compared to about 2,200 km (1,350 miles) for Pluto and 1,200 km (750 miles) for Charon. Discovered in November, Varuna closes the gap between Pluto and the previously largest known Kuiper-Belt object, which is around 600 km (350 miles), said astronomer Steve Tegler of Northern Arizona University. "Pluto and Charon are not so unique in size now. Perhaps more Pluto-sized objects or even larger objects remain undiscovered in the outer reaches of the solar system." Varuna could be the first of many such discoveries, predicted Tegler and a colleague in an editorial entitled 'Almost Planet X' in the May 24 issue of the Nature. The essay accompanied an article detailing the new Varuna findings, written by lead scientist David Jewitt of the Institute for Astronomy in Hawaii and two associates. The trio found that Varuna reflects about 7 percent of the sunlight that strikes its surface, considerably more than most identified objects in the Kuiper Belt. "The higher than guessed albedo (reflectivity) may be due to the presence of some ice on the surface, but nothing like as much as Pluto can command," said Brian Marsden of the Harvard-Smithsonian Observatory. Varuna is much darker than Pluto, a frosty world with a seasonal atmosphere that bounces back about 60 percent of the solar light that reaches it. Some astronomers consider the new revelations vindication of the work of Clyde Tombaugh, who in 1930 spotted Pluto during a search for the elusive Planet X. Unconvinced that his icy find was his intended quarry, he kept looking for other sizable, distant objects. More Kuiper Belt surprises may await astronomers after space shuttle astronauts deploy an infrared telescope facility in 2002. The instrument is expected to provide more precise measurements of objects in the distant solar system. From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Thu May 24 14:48:51 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 19:48:51 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Dear Elric 1. What about Brainstorm on Live 79...he starts off OK but... 2. Your commas etc are all perfectly formed! Love, Moonglum ----- Original Message ----- From: Mich at el B To: Sent: 24 May 2001 04:28 Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > I've never heard any bad bass playing from the man > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ian Abrahams > > To: > > Sent: 23 May 2001 18:57 > > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > > > > > > I think Harvey always struggled a bit with the HW Bass parts...didn't > Huw > > > have to play some bass on Choose Your Masques because of this? > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu May 24 14:14:35 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:14:35 -0400 Subject: HW: Lounge Axe Message-ID: MSH said... >I make no apologies about the consistency of the Lounge Axe show. > >As I mentioned in my "announcement" email this was garnered off of >alt.binaires.Mp3.etc from someone who was doing what was called a "hawkwind >flood". The show was delivered as I got it. Overall I thought it was pretty >ok qualitywise and mentioned that in the original email. I have neither the >time nor inclination to fix this show up. If anyone wants to they are free >to contact me for the "original" mp3's. Sorry, I never meant to imply that I was complaining about its quality, even though I used such words as 'annoying.' (I'm very appreciative that you went and started this tree.) I was just curious as to what could cause such 'noises.' Perhaps it *is* a MP3-WAV transfer situation as someone else suggested (I don't know anything about that issue). Grakkl (FAA) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu May 24 15:57:59 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:57:59 -0400 Subject: OFF: Summer fests In-Reply-To: <200105241707.NAA25765@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Thu, May 24, 2001 at 11:54:59AM -0400 Message-ID: On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 11:54:59AM -0400, K Henderson wrote: > Also, here in Chesterville, OH (well, between Columbus and Mansfield) will > be the Burning Corn fest, a sort of midwestern answer to the infamous > Burning Man fests in Nevada. July 28th - 29th, 2001 are the dates. Hmmmm, that sounds kinda cool. > Probably a bit like the pagan fest thingy at Brushwood > (is that on again, Eric? Who's playing?) I imagine. That'd be Starwood. (Starwood's an event; Brushwood is where it takes place.) A bit similar, judging by the BC web site. Starwood also has a certain tendency towards "crazed costumes, burning things, and naked people", but it's a pretty organized affair, not tabula rasa as BC seems to be (and I guess the original Burning Man too). Yeah, Starwood's happening; I'll be there. Nothing particularly spacerocky on the bill (sheerest coincidence that Einstein's Secret Orchestra played both Starwood and SD last year). The performance closest to on-topic-ness would be Ron Slabe: "Using electronics and found objects, he weaves diverse influences into a dense sonic web designed to invoke a variety of emotional states." http://www.rosencomet.com/starwood2001/ ... Click on "Program" to see what organized events are scheduled. Brushwood also has a site at www.brushwood.com; there's other stuff happening there all summer. These things go on all summer; this year I may try to catch more of them. One more or less in your neighbourhood, Keith, is Pagan Spirit Gathering, somewhere in southeastern Ohio. Some people I met at Starwood last year had also been at PSG, and gave it good reviews. http://www.circlesanctuary.org/psg/ -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Thu May 24 16:11:36 2001 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:11:36 -0400 Subject: OFF: Summer fests In-Reply-To: <20010524155759.A5579@telepres.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 24 May 2001, Eric Siegerman wrote: > > Yeah, Starwood's happening; I'll be there. Nothing particularly > spacerocky on the bill (sheerest coincidence that Einstein's > Secret Orchestra played both Starwood and SD last year). The > performance closest to on-topic-ness would be Ron Slabe: "Using > electronics and found objects, he weaves diverse influences into > a dense sonic web designed to invoke a variety of emotional > states." > > These things go on all summer; this year I may try to catch more > of them. One more or less in your neighbourhood, Keith, is Pagan > Spirit Gathering, somewhere in southeastern Ohio. Some people I > met at Starwood last year had also been at PSG, and gave it good > reviews. http://www.circlesanctuary.org/psg/ I'm personally psyched up for Wic-Can Fest in Ontario, coming up in less than 2 weeks, although I doubt any listers will be there. One of the high points of my year :) Cheers, Rob Servo Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 24 16:27:50 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 05:57:50 +0930 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Sorry, but could you please refresh my memory Moonglum? By telling me your name. Arrrgh those particular brain cell seem to be snoozing - kinda like I should be now..... Peace Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Moonglum To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 4:18 AM Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > Dear Elric > > 1. What about Brainstorm on Live 79...he starts off OK but... > 2. Your commas etc are all perfectly formed! > > Love, > > Moonglum > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mich at el B > To: > Sent: 24 May 2001 04:28 > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > > I've never heard any bad bass playing from the man > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Ian Abrahams > > > To: > > > Sent: 23 May 2001 18:57 > > > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > > > > > > > > > I think Harvey always struggled a bit with the HW Bass parts...didn't > > Huw > > > > have to play some bass on Choose Your Masques because of this? > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 24 16:41:05 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michaelangelo Blackman) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:41:05 -0500 Subject: You have been invited to share a folder. Message-ID: Hi there! - Space rock mp3 by Alien Dream - The download is 2.2mb @ 128kbps - However it can be uncompressed back to a WAV file if you have the software - If you don't, you can get it at mp3.com - otherwise simply enjoy this mp3 C at pt@in Alien Michael Blackman is a Freedrive User and would like to share some files with you. Click the link below to begin sharing files with Michael Blackman. http://www.freedrive.com/ASP/PostFolderShortcut.asp?FolderShareCode=1546340856&Email=boc-l at listserv.spc.edu Please note: Some e-mail software doesn't show the link above as a single link. If this is the case with your e-mail, copy the link, paste it in the address bar of your browser and press Enter. FreeDrive is an online storage and file sharing site. You can use it to upload, store, retrieve, and share data such as photos, documents, spreadsheets, and more. Learn more about signing up for your own FreeDrive by visiting http://www.freedrive.com. Don't delay? join FreeDrive today. Millions of other people already have! Thank you for using FreeDrive. We hope you enjoy our service. From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Thu May 24 17:11:23 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 22:11:23 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: TELL you my NAME?! Please, allow me to clutch the few remaining shreds of dignity to my wasted frame...(by telling you off-list...) And the other thing, Ginger's departure...I will quote from the Holy Book (This Is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic): 'Harvey: "Until this rehearsal I had adopted the policy of with my work of just doing more or less what I liked. If no-one like what I played then fuck it. But what happened with Ginger made me think. I'm very wary now." ' ...blah blah about the row between Harvey and Ginger...too long to quote, but Ginger calls Harvey "the worst bass player in the world". Harvey goes for a walk to sort his head out & comes back to ask the Captain where he, DB, stands. The Captain says: "...*you're* employing *him* so you've got to stand up and say what you want." The book becomes a bit unclear at this point, seeming to say that Huw and the Captain swing round behind Harvey, with DB telling Ginger to piss off. Which he does. I do remember how it was reported in the UK music press (Sounds) at the time. Not quoting directly here, but paraphrasing from memory: "Ginger Baker has left Hawkwind after a dispute with bassist Harvey Bainbridge. Baker told Bainbridge he was the worst bass player in the world. The worst bass player in the world then sacked the best drummer in the world!" 2 different versions of events, believe as you will...personally I can't see Harvey sacking anyone, he is too nice. BTW in case I am giving off anti-Harvey vibes, I wasn't a fan of his bass playing *all* the time (though he totally makes tracks like Free Fall and High Rise) but liked his synths a lot, and unlike Ginger Baker, Harvey was HW through and through. I would a thousand times prefer to see Harvey in Hawkwind than G.Baker esquire, amazing drummer though he is/was. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mich at el B To: Sent: 24 May 2001 21:27 Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > Sorry, but could you please refresh my memory Moonglum? By telling me your > name. Arrrgh those particular brain cell seem to be snoozing - kinda like I > should be now..... > > Peace > Michael B > From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 24 17:17:35 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 22:17:35 +0100 Subject: Travelling at the speed of space Message-ID: River Grove Illinois 8/12/90 plus soundcheck from Milwaukee 9/12/90 ----- Original Message ----- From: "colm mcwilliams" To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:37 AM Subject: Travelling at the speed of space > Hi there > > My question is theres a bootleg called "Travelling at the speed of space" do > you know a what gig that was recorded??? > > cheers > > Colm McWilliams > ICQ: #62753543 > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu May 24 17:33:58 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:33:58 -0400 Subject: OFF: New A-I radio show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Aural Innovations Radio has just uploaded a new show in streaming RealAudio. (You can also download it if you prefer.) Aural Innovations is an online web-zine covering all forms of spacerock, psychedelia, electronica, and more eclectic forms of jazz and progressive rock. Our web site is LOADED with reviews, interviews, and articles. Announcment: Strange Trips is working toward bringing Mr Quimby's Beard and Harvey Bainbridge to the US this Fall!!! Keep your eyes peeled on http://www.strange-trips.com for information as it becomes available. If you have a venue that could support one of these shows, please contact Jim Lascko at jmfinity at strange-trips.com. Here is the playlist for the new radio show: Show #27: General Playlist Novadriver - "Shoot The Sky" (from Void) Quarkspace - "The Translight Limited" (from Spacefolds 7) Daevid Allen's University Of Errors - "Ocean In The Distance" (from 2) Lamp Of The Universe - "Freedom In Your Mind" (from The Cosmic Union) Helios Creed - "Lactating Purple" (from Helios Creed On Tour 1999) Rick Ray - "Bizarre Spangled Banner" (from You People) Atomgods - "Atlantic Waves" (from Judge Trev: Revolution and Rebellion) Inner City Unit - "Battle Of The Trees (from Judge Trev: Revolution and Rebellion) The Interstellar Cementmixers - "Arachnoid Staircase" (from Dislodged Resonance) Architectural Metaphor - "Kairos" (from Viva) Census Of Hallucinations - "Flight Of The Cosmick Snot" (from The 4th Dimension) Anubian Lights - "As Seen In 822 A.D." (from Anubian Lights live with Nik Turner) Magnasparagus - "Track 7" (from Magnasparagus) Edward Artemiev - "Mirage" (from A Book Of Impressions) Stanislav Kreitchi - "Ansiana" (from Ansiana) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. http://Aural-Innovations.com From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Thu May 24 14:00:03 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:00:03 -0400 Subject: HW: Lounge Axe Message-ID: From: "MSH" > I make no apologies about the consistency of the Lounge Axe show. > > As I mentioned in my "announcement" email this was garnered off of > alt.binaires.Mp3.etc from someone who was doing what was called a "hawkwind > flood". The show was delivered as I got it. Overall I thought it was pretty > ok qualitywise and mentioned that in the original email. I have neither the > time nor inclination to fix this show up. If anyone wants to they are free > to contact me for the "original" mp3's. I'm sorry if I sounded like I was blaming you for their quality, that wasn't my intent. I thought sounds like what were on the recording were more or less unavoidable when using MP3 - at least they sounded similar to what has happened to me before. I've certainly heard much worse recordings that were supposed to be from the soundboard. Being that it was from MP3's of an unknown origin, I think it came out pretty good. Jerry From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Thu May 24 19:25:34 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:25:34 -0500 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: > Was it the superstar syndrome, which Mr Baker may have had a touch of, which > the band seems to have no tolerance for, that caused his leaving? > and can someone please let me know if my grammar is correct? commas etc! "Was it the superstar syndrome, of which mr. Baker may have had a touch, and for which the band seems to have no tolerance, that caused his leaving?" The above is the correct way of writing that sentence. John Majka, licensed English teacher and pharmacist! jmajka2 at home.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 24 21:04:38 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:34:38 +0930 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: I guess thats what you get for trying to type ENGLISH pwoperly when your whacked on pharmaceuticals wuaghhhhh haughhhh - do'oh Anyway thats my excuse and i'm sticking wiff it!! 8>))) ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 8:55 AM Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > Was it the superstar syndrome, which Mr Baker may have had a touch of, > which > > the band seems to have no tolerance for, that caused his leaving? > > and can someone please let me know if my grammar is correct? commas etc! > > "Was it the superstar syndrome, of which mr. Baker may have had a touch, and > for which the band seems to have no tolerance, that caused his leaving?" > The above is the correct way of writing that sentence. > John Majka, licensed English teacher and pharmacist! > jmajka2 at home.com > From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu May 24 21:17:26 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:17:26 -0400 Subject: HW: Lounge Axe In-Reply-To: <000001c0e4a7$962ee160$63a4a918@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: Jerry, Keith et al Sorry if I sounded grumpy about the show quality. That was not my intent. I am pretty sure the weird digital noises were inherent in the MP3 I downloaded. I know you are all appreciative of the vine and the work we did together getting this great music out. :-) Mike -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Jerry Guizar Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:00 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Lounge Axe From: "MSH" > I make no apologies about the consistency of the Lounge Axe show. > > As I mentioned in my "announcement" email this was garnered off of > alt.binaires.Mp3.etc from someone who was doing what was called a "hawkwind > flood". The show was delivered as I got it. Overall I thought it was pretty > ok qualitywise and mentioned that in the original email. I have neither the > time nor inclination to fix this show up. If anyone wants to they are free > to contact me for the "original" mp3's. I'm sorry if I sounded like I was blaming you for their quality, that wasn't my intent. I thought sounds like what were on the recording were more or less unavoidable when using MP3 - at least they sounded similar to what has happened to me before. I've certainly heard much worse recordings that were supposed to be from the soundboard. Being that it was from MP3's of an unknown origin, I think it came out pretty good. Jerry From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu May 24 22:19:37 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 20:19:37 -0600 Subject: Travelling at the speed of space In-Reply-To: <003501c0e496$f45f7da0$0f89193e@n8f8h2> Message-ID: Are you speaking of manufactured bootlegs, or CDR.....??? if CDR, significant quantitys dispenced??? good art??? labels??? scented of sandelwood??? is there really any such thing as Bootlegs anymore????? I am NOT being smart-ass......I refer to the fact that they seemed to proliferate into the 90's, but then there was some crack down on the laws in Germany or something, and I haven't seen or heard of any PROPER ones since!!! is there??? Mike From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 24 21:33:24 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Pumpkin HEAD) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:03:24 +0930 Subject: black sword dvd Message-ID: *** Hope this post doesn't cause any youngsters to become druggies but if it does then its a damn lame excuse - anyway Finally - got to watch my Black Sword DVD after a few months because my brother bought a DVD player - Fired up some stinky skunks and had a funky night allright Far frickin out - trippy or what - and the sound was decent enough 10/10 for visuals 10/10 music 10/10 for the budz and the beer was awright too! From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu May 24 21:37:22 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:37:22 -0400 Subject: Travelling at the speed of space Message-ID: On Thu, 24 May 2001 20:19:37 -0600, Mike C wrote: > Are you speaking of manufactured bootlegs, or CDR.....??? > > [ ... snip ...] > >is there really any such thing as Bootlegs anymore????? My personal quote on the subject is: "Home CD recording is killing the bootleg industry" (I'm sure y'all remember the cassette-and-crossbones logo that was printed on the inner sleeve of most UK LP's of the 80's.) >I am NOT being smart-ass......I refer to the fact that they seemed to >proliferate into the 90's, but then there was some crack down on the laws >in Germany or something, and I haven't seen or heard of any PROPER ones >since!!! Italy was the king of legal-early-copyright-expiration-of-live- performances "grey market" boots in the mid-90s, but I believe their copyright laws have been "upgraded" to EU standards since then. And in Italy, it looks like many of the former bootleggers may have switched to legitimate reissues (which has been a HUGE boon for lovers of psychedelic vinyl such as myself). I wonder if the CEO's of Arkana, Get Back et. al. used to do boots? >is there??? I was in upstate-California (is that a malapropism, Noo Yokkers?) last weekend and saw a box full of CD boots at the counter of the record store we went too. I didn't even bother with 'em, but the friend I was with said he looked through them and they were a mishmash of pressed CD's and CD- R's. No Hawkwind, though ... (but some good stuff like Barrett-era Floyd BBC sessions IIRC) ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu May 24 23:54:03 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 23:54:03 -0400 Subject: OFF: Summer fests In-Reply-To: <20010524155759.A5579@telepres.com>; from erics@TELEPRES.COM on Thu, May 24, 2001 at 03:57:59PM -0400 Message-ID: Apologies for following up my own post. On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 03:57:59PM -0400, I wrote: > The performance [at Starwood] closest to on-topic-ness would be Ron Slabe I missed one of the events pages. Turns out both Einstein's Secret Orchestra and Speaker Cranker are on tap too. ESO does good spacerock -- some people will be familiar with them from SD2K. I'm more than happy to catch them again -- especially with no SD to look forward to :-( Dunno about SC, but they sound interesting (their blurb cites Krautrock bands and early Floyd). I missed their set last year, so I'm glad of a second chance. The blurbs for both bands are at http://www.rosencomet.com/starwood2001/pufferdome.html Dunno if it's worth spending a week at Starwood *just* for this, but since I'll be there anyway ... cool! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri May 25 02:15:09 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 07:15:09 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: yeah - shouldn't use conjunctives with commas!!! (Is it conjunctives??) Sorry this is totally off topic but another of my strange little fascinations! Sam -----Original Message----- From: John Majka [mailto:jmajka2 at HOME.COM] Sent: 25 May 2001 00:26 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > Was it the superstar syndrome, which Mr Baker may have had a touch of, which > the band seems to have no tolerance for, that caused his leaving? > and can someone please let me know if my grammar is correct? commas etc! "Was it the superstar syndrome, of which mr. Baker may have had a touch, and for which the band seems to have no tolerance, that caused his leaving?" The above is the correct way of writing that sentence. John Majka, licensed English teacher and pharmacist! jmajka2 at home.com The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri May 25 02:35:37 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 14:35:37 +0800 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Oooh! I know wot you mean.... > yeah - shouldn't use conjunctives with commas!!! (Is it conjunctives??) > > Sorry this is totally off topic but another of my strange little > fascinations! > > Sam > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Majka [mailto:jmajka2 at HOME.COM] > Sent: 25 May 2001 00:26 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > > Was it the superstar syndrome, which Mr Baker may have had a touch of, > which > > the band seems to have no tolerance for, that caused his leaving? > > and can someone please let me know if my grammar is correct? commas etc! > > "Was it the superstar syndrome, of which mr. Baker may have had a touch, and > for which the band seems to have no tolerance, that caused his leaving?" > The above is the correct way of writing that sentence. > John Majka, licensed English teacher and pharmacist! > jmajka2 at home.com > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. > > ntl Group Limited > From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Fri May 25 07:48:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 12:48:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Book Message-ID: OK, I'm hooked. Loads of quotes recently from "This is Hawkwind, do not panic". I can't find the book anywhere, new or second hand, and Kris never replied to my email asking for it in paper or electronic form. Does anyone out there have a spare copy (or willing to photocopy it)? Like most HW nuts, I've some rarities for trade etc, and of course I'd recompense any photocopying costs. Thanks ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield, slitchfield at ukonline.co.uk Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri May 25 08:40:38 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 13:40:38 +0100 Subject: Book Message-ID: did have two copies - will check at home tonight and let you know tomorrow. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Steve Litchfield [mailto:slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK] Sent: 25 May 2001 12:48 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Book OK, I'm hooked. Loads of quotes recently from "This is Hawkwind, do not panic". I can't find the book anywhere, new or second hand, and Kris never replied to my email asking for it in paper or electronic form. Does anyone out there have a spare copy (or willing to photocopy it)? Like most HW nuts, I've some rarities for trade etc, and of course I'd recompense any photocopying costs. Thanks ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield, slitchfield at ukonline.co.uk Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Fri May 25 09:38:03 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 07:38:03 -0600 Subject: Space for Music/Strange Daze In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes, Mike, this is a real group. If the cd is still at the local emporium, I'll pick it up. It's gotten some local airplay. Not my project, but includes Greg Turner (former Angry Samoan: also think Alien/UFO rectal probes & more poster.) The Mark L -----Original Message----- From: Mike C Subject: Re: Space for Music/Strange Daze original message from M. Licht: "If the tour comes to Santa Fe, I'd recommend our local band "The Blood Drained Cows." Mark....is this your project???? it sounds right down the lane...... From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Fri May 25 09:38:16 2001 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (Tony Still Comes Around On The Downbeat) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 08:38:16 -0500 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Sam Kirwan: > yeah - shouldn't use conjunctives with commas!!! (Is it > conjunctives??) That could lead to conjunctivitis! -Hogard From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri May 25 10:35:32 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 22:35:32 +0800 Subject: black sword dvd Message-ID: Hi I was rather disappointed with the sound, as it wasn't that strong. Might hear an improvement though when I eventually get 5.1 Digital sound system? William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pumpkin HEAD" To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:33 AM Subject: black sword dvd *** Hope this post doesn't cause any youngsters to become druggies but if it does then its a damn lame excuse - anyway Finally - got to watch my Black Sword DVD after a few months because my brother bought a DVD player - Fired up some stinky skunks and had a funky night allright Far frickin out - trippy or what - and the sound was decent enough 10/10 for visuals 10/10 music 10/10 for the budz and the beer was awright too! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri May 25 10:40:18 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:10:18 +0930 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Oh you mean conjunctavitises - yeah they're reall handy sometimes LOL Samantha Fox? ----- Original Message ----- From: Samantha Kirwan To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 3:45 PM Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > yeah - shouldn't use conjunctives with commas!!! (Is it conjunctives??) > > Sorry this is totally off topic but another of my strange little > fascinations! > > Sam > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Majka [mailto:jmajka2 at HOME.COM] > Sent: 25 May 2001 00:26 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > > Was it the superstar syndrome, which Mr Baker may have had a touch of, > which > > the band seems to have no tolerance for, that caused his leaving? > > and can someone please let me know if my grammar is correct? commas etc! > > "Was it the superstar syndrome, of which mr. Baker may have had a touch, and > for which the band seems to have no tolerance, that caused his leaving?" > The above is the correct way of writing that sentence. > John Majka, licensed English teacher and pharmacist! > jmajka2 at home.com > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. > > ntl Group Limited From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri May 25 10:42:54 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:12:54 +0930 Subject: HW: Book Message-ID: Photocopy the Holy Hawk Grail - are you mad!!! :) You CAN'T do that!!!! :) Say five hail Zarozinias and wash your mouth out with soap right now!! 8>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Litchfield To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:18 PM Subject: HW: Book > OK, I'm hooked. > > Loads of quotes recently from "This is Hawkwind, do not panic". I can't > find the book anywhere, new or second hand, and Kris never replied to my > email asking for it in paper or electronic form. > > Does anyone out there have a spare copy (or willing to photocopy it)? Like > most HW nuts, I've some rarities for trade etc, and of course I'd > recompense any photocopying costs. > > Thanks > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield, slitchfield at ukonline.co.uk > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri May 25 10:51:00 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:21:00 +0930 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Hey that was gonna be my gag!! 8>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Still Comes Around On The Downbeat To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:08 PM Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > Sam Kirwan: > > > yeah - shouldn't use conjunctives with commas!!! (Is it > > conjunctives??) > > That could lead to conjunctivitis! > > -Hogard From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri May 25 10:54:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:24:45 +0930 Subject: black sword dvd Message-ID: I have no idea of the system but the sound was ok and my brother agreed I suppose there was something missing in the mid to hi mid range but nothing too drastic - It was such a buzz to see it. Wheres my time machine Captain Bastable??? (Nomads of the time streams) ----- Original Message ----- From: William Duffy To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: Re: black sword dvd > Hi > > I was rather disappointed with the sound, as it wasn't that strong. Might > hear an improvement though when I eventually get 5.1 Digital sound system? > > William > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pumpkin HEAD" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:33 AM > Subject: black sword dvd > > > *** Hope this post doesn't cause any youngsters to become druggies but if it > does then its a damn lame excuse - > > anyway > > Finally - got to watch my Black Sword DVD after a few months because my > brother bought a DVD player - Fired up some stinky skunks and had a funky > night allright > > Far frickin out - trippy or what - and the sound was decent enough > > 10/10 for visuals > 10/10 music > 10/10 for the budz > and the beer was awright too! > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri May 25 09:46:22 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 09:46:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Summer fests Message-ID: Eric said... >Apologies for following up my own post. > >On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 03:57:59PM -0400, I wrote: >> The performance [at Starwood] closest to on-topic-ness would be Ron Slabe > >I missed one of the events pages. Turns out both Einstein's >Secret Orchestra and Speaker Cranker are on tap too. > >ESO does good spacerock -- some people will be familiar with them >from SD2K. I'm more than happy to catch them again -- especially >with no SD to look forward to :-( > >Dunno about SC, but they sound interesting (their blurb cites >Krautrock bands and early Floyd). I missed their set last year, >so I'm glad of a second chance. Well, the band that played just after ESO at SD2K called 'Trans-Lunar Express' was mostly Speaker\Cranker, plus a few other Cleveland luminaries. Jim Jones of Pere Ubu is the synth player, and the two brothers that make up Puff Tube (the group that did that crazy version of QSC on Doug's HW tribute) are also in S\C. They just opened up www.speakercranker.com which I haven't even seen yet. The band is well worth seeing...I caught them opening for both Gong and Bevis Frond, as well as the TLE performance at SD'2K. All improv - different every time. Escapade-style. >The blurbs for both bands are at >http://www.rosencomet.com/starwood2001/pufferdome.html > >Dunno if it's worth spending a week at Starwood *just* for this, >but since I'll be there anyway ... cool! Is there a schedule? Perhaps they'd play on consecutive days. Then I'd really think about it. Grakkl (FAA) From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Fri May 25 11:40:35 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:40:35 -0400 Subject: Calling Long Island, New York!!! Message-ID: Hello, Long Island!!!! Sloterdijk has some business to attend to on Long Island within the next 6-8 weeks or so. We don't enjoy traveling much if there's no show to play, so we are appealing to all Long Islanders, to either help us set up another show at a different venue ( The Wrong Way is inundated with bands at this moment), or to host a private party where we can perform. Contact us directly if interested. A benefit show would also be nice. If you're on Long Island, and you have something worth playing for, say an indie radio station, a good cause, charity etc, these are all worthy things to throw a concert for.. Peace, MIke (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 25 12:26:14 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:26:14 +0100 Subject: OFF: Summer fests In-Reply-To: <200105251458.KAA14443@mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: In message <200105251458.KAA14443 at mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K Henderson writes >Well, the band that played just after ESO at SD2K called 'Trans-Lunar >Express' was mostly Speaker\Cranker, plus a few other Cleveland luminaries. >Jim Jones of Pere Ubu is the synth player This sounds interesting... do they have any CDs out? -- Nick Medford From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri May 25 12:38:05 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:38:05 -0500 Subject: black sword dvd Message-ID: Is this version better than the video that came out in the 80's?????? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: William Duffy [mailto:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:36 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: black sword dvd Hi I was rather disappointed with the sound, as it wasn't that strong. Might hear an improvement though when I eventually get 5.1 Digital sound system? William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pumpkin HEAD" To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:33 AM Subject: black sword dvd *** Hope this post doesn't cause any youngsters to become druggies but if it does then its a damn lame excuse - anyway Finally - got to watch my Black Sword DVD after a few months because my brother bought a DVD player - Fired up some stinky skunks and had a funky night allright Far frickin out - trippy or what - and the sound was decent enough 10/10 for visuals 10/10 music 10/10 for the budz and the beer was awright too! From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri May 25 11:52:05 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:52:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: Speaker\Cranker Message-ID: >In message <200105251458.KAA14443 at mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K >Henderson writes >>Well, the band that played just after ESO at SD2K called 'Trans-Lunar >>Express' was mostly Speaker\Cranker, plus a few other Cleveland luminaries. >>Jim Jones of Pere Ubu is the synth player > >This sounds interesting... do they have any CDs out? >From www.aural-innovations.com... Speaker\Cranker - Speaker\Cranker (1999) Holophon (HOCD 001) I mentioned this new entity in the last Korner, and said you'd be hearing more about them soon. Luckily, their debut CD came out on schedule, and I couldn't be happier. These six Clevelanders have brought forth some extremely exciting music in this hour-long gem. S\C stick pretty closely to the extended kraut-style instrumental jams, so they don't depart too much from what Mushroom is doing out west or what The Spacious Mind started out with a few years back. But certainly, each of these improv artists *have* to provide some different ideas and voices. It's like pale ale, you just have to try them all. Trying to give you a rundown of everything the Crankers try out on this album would take way too much space. But basically, the music can be cordoned off into the hypno-rhythm aspect (generally bass and drums) and then the free-flowing lead voices. As in Neu!, the drummer is a particularly important ingredient in the stew, and here Scott Pickering really stands out. In fact, his playing is far more involved and busy than Klaus Dinger ever attempted, and yet Pickering still plays with that 'looping' feel that (along with Jim Donadio's bass) lays the rolling foundation for the others. These include dual guitarists Dave Swanson and Keith Pickering, neither of which seem to fit into divisible roles as 'lead' and 'rhythm.' More often than not, the two are simultaneously wandering off into their own thing, whether that be slide work, long sustain, heavy echo, light and nimble licks, probably some e-bow, etc. And then of course, this is all topped off by the synth work of Jim Jones (he of Pere Ubu fame) and the barrage of sonic samples, various tape-effects and weird oscillator noises that Dave Cintron adds. In the end, you could argue either that the album features 'no solos' or 'nothing but solos' and both would be right on. It's a matter of perspective. "Mar Luna" and "Stick Shift Effigy," both near the album's outset are probably the strongest works on the album, though it's hard to find a weak spot. "Baby Please Go Home" is the one place where they break form and try out a rhythmless experimental piece, a la Faust. The dialtone sounds placed about a half-step apart cause you a bit of queasiness, but it's an effect that works. "Dome Piece," the 27-minute finale is quite a symphony in itself, and features a section I really like where a particular guitar riff is constructed and then dismantled in small parts, such that the piece takes on the feel of a 'theme and variation' composition. Later on, I seem to pick out the guitar chords from Hawkwind's "You Know You're Only Dreaming" amongst the humming synths and pulsating rhythm, but I'm sure that's my imagination. If you're bothering to read this section of AI, you'll know by now that this is something you should really hear. It doesn't take long to catch onto what S\C does...when I caught their performance supporting Gong, I was a huge fan just fifteen minutes into their set. Before you read this, I will have the good fortune of seeing them again with Bevis Frond. One more rising star in the ever-expanding krautrock renaissance - what about calling it Neu!-wave? Too silly? Buy Speaker\Cranker on-line at: www.bentcrayon.com, and hear their soundfiles at http://home.earthlink.net/~mcjimmyd/index.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think the label now has their own site (?) at www.holophon.com. And of course, the brand new www.speakercranker.com site, which I *still* haven't checked out yet (since this morning). :) Grakkl (FAA) P.S. I think a second CD might already be in the works. P.P.S. I think they sell the first one here in Columbus (Used Kids) for $9 (new) (don't quote me on that!), so if anyone really wants to shave a buck or two off an internet mail order, I can see what I can do for you. Perhaps $10.50 domestic? From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Fri May 25 14:05:04 2001 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:05:04 -0700 Subject: HW: Source for Spacebrock soundbite? Message-ID: At the start of track 17 of _Spacebrock_, "Do You Want this Body?", there is a great rant that goes like this: I'm not just talking about my wife, I'm talking about my life - I can't seem to get that through to you. I'm not just talking about one person, I'm talking about everybody. I'm talking about form, I'm talking about content, I'm talking about interrelationships, I'm talking about God, the devil, Hell, Heaven! Do you understand!??! Finally!??! I am assuming that this is taken from a movie - anyone know the source? I've been scouring the 'net for it, with no luck. A few other things I've discovered about this track while pounding on the search engines: The CD credits list one "Capt. Natty" as providing the vocals on this track. Check out http://members.aol.com/pia55/allmen.html. Coincidence? Around 4:55, you can hear someone say "Why is a raven like a writing-desk?" This is a line in Alice in Wonderland spoken by the Mad Hatter. For a thorough discourse on this line, you can subject yourself to http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_266.html. MWood NP: _Spacebrock_ ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri May 25 14:25:59 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:25:59 -0700 Subject: Source for Spacebrock soundbite? In-Reply-To: <200105251805.LAA11794@mail20.bigmailbox.com> Message-ID: You should always try Google for a good web scouring...using it, I found this: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Flats/4396/fam.html Go to the very (almost) bottom. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Marshall Wood Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:05 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Source for Spacebrock soundbite? At the start of track 17 of _Spacebrock_, "Do You Want this Body?", there is a great rant that goes like this: I'm not just talking about my wife, I'm talking about my life - I can't seem to get that through to you. I'm not just talking about one person, I'm talking about everybody. I'm talking about form, I'm talking about content, I'm talking about interrelationships, I'm talking about God, the devil, Hell, Heaven! Do you understand!??! Finally!??! I am assuming that this is taken from a movie - anyone know the source? I've been scouring the 'net for it, with no luck. MWood NP: _Spacebrock_ From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri May 25 15:44:06 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 13:44:06 -0600 Subject: HW: Source for SPACEBROCK artbite In-Reply-To: <200105251805.LAA11794@mail20.bigmailbox.com> Message-ID: Spacebrock exists with an alternate cover for "THE ONLY ONES"...... I have done my good deed for today.... I am not yet, one of the above..... interpersonal relationship From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 25 15:12:43 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 20:12:43 +0100 Subject: Source for Spacebrock soundbite? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I too have been trying to identify the origin of that sample... In message , Kevin Sommers writes >You should always try Google for a good web scouring...using it, I found >this: >http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Flats/4396/fam.html >Go to the very (almost) bottom. Aaaah! I *knew* I'd heard it before somewhere! Case solved. Cheers. -- Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 25 15:13:52 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 20:13:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Speaker\Cranker In-Reply-To: <200105251704.NAA11884@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: In message <200105251704.NAA11884 at mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K Henderson writes >>In message <200105251458.KAA14443 at mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K >>Henderson writes >>>Well, the band that played just after ESO at SD2K called 'Trans-Lunar >>>Express' was mostly Speaker\Cranker, plus a few other Cleveland luminaries. >>>Jim Jones of Pere Ubu is the synth player >> >>This sounds interesting... do they have any CDs out? > >>From www.aural-innovations.com... Thanks for such a comprehensive response. I'm sure I'll be checking the album out. -- Nick Medford From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri May 25 17:42:35 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:42:35 -0400 Subject: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) Message-ID: Weird #6 appears to be in stock here.... https://secure.wsa.u-net.com/www.cow.co.uk/scripts/blue.cgi change the search criteria to 1000 items Rx From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri May 25 18:11:37 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 23:11:37 +0100 Subject: Travelling at the speed of space Message-ID: the whole thing about bootlegs as far as the UK goes,in terms of their demise,really tracks back to the time when the authorities decided to be really clever. In conjunction witht he MCPS, the police had pretty well got hold of the street traders, primarily in London and Birmingham, but they couldn;t muster the manpower to grab all the boot sellers at record fairs,and besides, half the time no-one knew what was boot anyway. So they went dead crafty and introduced a law, in exactly the same way as they have done with drugs and clubs recently, making the record fair organiser entirely responsible to face the consequences should any boot sellers be found at their fair, not forgetting to clobber theboot sleer as well. Virtually overnight, all the boot sellers got kicked off the fairs - no fair organiser with any sense was going to take the chance - and suddenly what was a prime chunk of the trade for these guys disappeared overnight. Not only this but two of the main rings manufacturing them in the UK got busted, and all of a sudden the UK was a no-go area for the sale of these little commodoties (although it took a lot longer to reach the Scots that this was the case, for some bizarre reason). To all intents and purposes, the UK boot industry has been replaced by the fans' CD-R collecting, a far healthier state of affairs if yuo've got to have a black market at all, but as to the boot industry's demise, well, if you read Ice magazine, then you might just think it's actualy alive and well, but where it is, who knows (or cares come to that). For those with a real thirst for knowledge of all things boot-y, there's just come out a CD-ROM with over 40,000 boot entries and info and track lists, etc, etc, altho' I've only seen the Prog-rock one so far (for my sins). Entirely off topic but I hope a bit interesting for you. Off to see the Ozrics tomorrow at Abderdeen. Good night one and all, Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:37 AM Subject: Re: Travelling at the speed of space > On Thu, 24 May 2001 20:19:37 -0600, Mike C wrote: > > Are you speaking of manufactured bootlegs, or CDR.....??? > > > > [ ... snip ...] > > > >is there really any such thing as Bootlegs anymore????? > > My personal quote on the subject is: > > "Home CD recording is killing the bootleg industry" > > (I'm sure y'all remember the cassette-and-crossbones logo that was printed > on the inner sleeve of most UK LP's of the 80's.) > > >I am NOT being smart-ass......I refer to the fact that they seemed to > >proliferate into the 90's, but then there was some crack down on the laws > >in Germany or something, and I haven't seen or heard of any PROPER ones > >since!!! > > Italy was the king of legal-early-copyright-expiration-of-live- > performances "grey market" boots in the mid-90s, but I believe their > copyright laws have been "upgraded" to EU standards since then. > > And in Italy, it looks like many of the former bootleggers may have > switched to legitimate reissues (which has been a HUGE boon for lovers of > psychedelic vinyl such as myself). I wonder if the CEO's of Arkana, Get > Back et. al. used to do boots? > > >is there??? > > I was in upstate-California (is that a malapropism, Noo Yokkers?) last > weekend and saw a box full of CD boots at the counter of the record store > we went too. I didn't even bother with 'em, but the friend I was with said > he looked through them and they were a mishmash of pressed CD's and CD- > R's. No Hawkwind, though ... (but some good stuff like Barrett-era Floyd > BBC sessions IIRC) ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri May 25 18:20:35 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 23:20:35 +0100 Subject: black sword dvd.....make that Night of The Hawks DVD Message-ID: Well then, you and a few others will be foaming at the mouth in anticipation of the next Hawkwind DVD that is out mid-June from CD Services here in good ol' UK, and that is 'Night Of The Hawks' with one bonus track that is previously unreleased on video but I've completely forgotten what it is (d'ooohhhhh!!!!). Anyway, our first 30 copies or so will be on offer, thereafter full price, so if you want one register to me now at: andygee at dial.pipex.com Toodle pips, Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pumpkin HEAD" To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:33 AM Subject: black sword dvd *** Hope this post doesn't cause any youngsters to become druggies but if it does then its a damn lame excuse - anyway Finally - got to watch my Black Sword DVD after a few months because my brother bought a DVD player - Fired up some stinky skunks and had a funky night allright Far frickin out - trippy or what - and the sound was decent enough 10/10 for visuals 10/10 music 10/10 for the budz and the beer was awright too! From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri May 25 18:27:18 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 23:27:18 +0100 Subject: OFF: Speaker\Cranker Message-ID: I wanted to sell their CD at CD Services, contacted them but got no reply so if anyone knows them, tell them to drop me a line, please. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 4:52 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Speaker\Cranker > >In message <200105251458.KAA14443 at mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K > >Henderson writes > > > From www.aural-innovations.com... > > Speaker\Cranker - Speaker\Cranker (1999) Holophon (HOCD 001) > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 25 18:10:06 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 18:10:06 -0400 Subject: Travelling at the speed of space Message-ID: On Fri, 25 May 2001 23:11:37 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >To all intents and purposes, the UK boot industry has been replaced by the >fans' CD-R collecting, a far healthier state of affairs if yuo've got to >have a black market at all, I agree wholeheartedly! This seems to be (mostly) the case in the states (although, like I said, one can still find boots at certain stores and many record swaps). Exactly the reason for my "Home CD Recording is killing the bootleg industry" quote. >For those with a >real thirst for knowledge of all things boot-y, there's just come out a >CD-ROM with over 40,000 boot entries and info and track lists, etc, etc, 'Hot Wacks'? And, by all means, check out Clinton Heylin's book 'Bootleg' that covers the history of rock bootlegs (and a bit of pre-history - rock was HARDLY the first genre to experience this "problem"), including the major players (and their motivations), the ever-evolving legal issues, the "rotation" of countries that were boot-"friendly" at various times, etc. etc. A great read chock-full of interesting facts ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 25 18:15:12 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 18:15:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: Speaker\Cranker Message-ID: On Fri, 25 May 2001 23:27:18 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >I wanted to sell their CD at CD Services, contacted them but got no >reply so if anyone knows them, tell them to drop me a line, please. I dunno about Jones & the rest, but Scott Pickering is one of the most difficult human beings in the universe to get in touch with! I was unable to track him down to give him his copies of the Hawkwind tribute CD that he PLAYS ON until I ran into him at Strange Daze last year. (And it sure was embarassing when I rang his doorbell, CD's in hand, and it was answered by some guy who had been living there for the last two years who had NO IDEA who Scott Pickering was!) The Trans-Lunar Express set (Speaker\Cranker offshoot) was definitely one of the highlights of SD2k IMO ... fantastic stuff! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 25 19:48:56 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:48:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: Record Shops Glasgow and Inverness Message-ID: Don't miss Byres Road shops: FOPP Echo Lost in Music Join me for a pint? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Rich Warren To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 20 May 2001 17:19 Subject: OFF: Record Shops Glasgow and Inverness >OK Guys. Enlighten Me. I'm visiting Glasgow and Inverness. Any good shops? >The only one I know in Glasgow is Tower. > >Rich W > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri May 25 19:06:05 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:06:05 +0100 Subject: where oh where??! Message-ID: I am trying to convert a friend of mine to the ways of the Hawk. I don't spend much time on the net..... so, can anyone tell me where I can find some tunes for him to listen to on the net?? Also, some Ramones and Fairies would come in handy..... if you can help???? Layla. From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 25 20:03:41 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 01:03:41 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: I remember at Hawkon that the various band members were a tad pissed off about Alan Davey joining - not with regard to Alan himself or his ability - but that Dave "forgot" to consult them!! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Moonglum To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 24 May 2001 19:53 Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy >Dear Elric > >1. What about Brainstorm on Live 79...he starts off OK but... >2. Your commas etc are all perfectly formed! > >Love, > >Moonglum > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mich at el B >To: >Sent: 24 May 2001 04:28 >Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > >> I've never heard any bad bass playing from the man >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Ian Abrahams >> > To: >> > Sent: 23 May 2001 18:57 >> > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy >> > >> > > >> > > I think Harvey always struggled a bit with the HW Bass parts...didn't >> Huw >> > > have to play some bass on Choose Your Masques because of this? >> > > >> > > Ian >> > > >> > >> > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 25 20:08:13 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 01:08:13 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Should that be Mr. Baker? Dave, Student of languages and chemist -----Original Message----- From: John Majka To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 25 May 2001 00:22 Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy >"Was it the superstar syndrome, of which mr. Baker may have had a touch, and >John Majka, licensed English teacher and pharmacist! >jmajka2 at home.com > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 25 20:09:13 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 01:09:13 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Conjunctions Dave -----Original Message----- From: Samantha Kirwan To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 25 May 2001 07:18 Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy >yeah - shouldn't use conjunctives with commas!!! (Is it conjunctives??) > >Sorry this is totally off topic but another of my strange little >fascinations! > >Sam > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Majka [mailto:jmajka2 at HOME.COM] >Sent: 25 May 2001 00:26 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > >> Was it the superstar syndrome, which Mr Baker may have had a touch of, >which >> the band seems to have no tolerance for, that caused his leaving? >> and can someone please let me know if my grammar is correct? commas etc! > >"Was it the superstar syndrome, of which mr. Baker may have had a touch, and >for which the band seems to have no tolerance, that caused his leaving?" >The above is the correct way of writing that sentence. >John Majka, licensed English teacher and pharmacist! >jmajka2 at home.com > > >The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention >of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended >addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is >unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any >representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. > >ntl Group Limited > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 25 20:18:32 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 01:18:32 +0100 Subject: HW: King and Powell Message-ID: Can someone answer the following questions: Who played on what on HotMG - is it Simon on the live stuff and Alan on the studio? How many gigs did they play together? How did they split it live? - two full kits and straight duplication? one on full kit and the other on percussion? The photo on the Warrior inner bag seems to suggest two full kits. Dave From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 25 19:30:51 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:30:51 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <03ac01c0e577$f580c5e0$4c51893e@default> Message-ID: In message <03ac01c0e577$f580c5e0$4c51893e at default>, david hall writes >Should that be Mr. Baker? Since we're being pedantic, can I point out that it should be Mr Baker, i.e. no full stop after "Mr". If an abbreviated word ends with the same letter as the word itself, one doesn't use the full-stop. At least... I think so. -- Nick Medford From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 25 20:27:59 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 01:27:59 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Is that the Royal we? Dave (I know, it's gone too far!) -----Original Message----- From: Nick Medford To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 26 May 2001 00:33 Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy >In message <03ac01c0e577$f580c5e0$4c51893e at default>, david hall > writes >>Should that be Mr. Baker? > >Since we're being pedantic, can I point out that it should be Mr Baker, i.e. >no full stop after "Mr". If an abbreviated word ends with the same letter as >the word itself, one doesn't use the full-stop. At least... I think so. >-- >Nick Medford > From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri May 25 21:38:15 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 21:38:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: Summer fests In-Reply-To: <200105251458.KAA14443@mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Fri, May 25, 2001 at 09:46:22AM -0400 Message-ID: On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 09:46:22AM -0400, K Henderson wrote: > Well, the band that played just after ESO at SD2K called 'Trans-Lunar > Express' was mostly Speaker\Cranker, plus a few other Cleveland luminaries. Geez, you're right -- I'd completely forgotten about that. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 26 02:26:34 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 15:56:34 +0930 Subject: black sword dvd Message-ID: Inever had a chance to see the vid - sorry can't help there ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 2:08 AM Subject: Re: black sword dvd > Is this version better than the video that came out in the 80's?????? STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Duffy [mailto:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:36 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: black sword dvd > > > Hi > > I was rather disappointed with the sound, as it wasn't that strong. Might > hear an improvement though when I eventually get 5.1 Digital sound system? > > William > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pumpkin HEAD" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:33 AM > Subject: black sword dvd > > > *** Hope this post doesn't cause any youngsters to become druggies but if it > does then its a damn lame excuse - > > anyway > > Finally - got to watch my Black Sword DVD after a few months because my > brother bought a DVD player - Fired up some stinky skunks and had a funky > night allright > > Far frickin out - trippy or what - and the sound was decent enough > > 10/10 for visuals > 10/10 music > 10/10 for the budz > and the beer was awright too! > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat May 26 02:37:29 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 02:37:29 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 5/19 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7 (sometimes later) pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck 5/19 (broadcasting 9-11pm this week, filling in for Mizzen...speaking of which, do give his show a listen at 9-11pm every Sat evening for a music program which knows no boundaries..."no sound shall go unscathed"--intelligent layering, touching on so many styles and eras though often focusing on all your favorite dark/avant/experimental-vocal artists...) 1.Helios Creed-- "Nirbasion Anasion" (Your Choice Live; Your Choice Records) 2.Tangerine Dream-- "Ashes to Ashes" (Electronic Meditation; Castle Communication Records) 3.Organization-- "Milk Rock" (Tone Float; Germanafon Records) (interpolating "Franz Joseph" from Robert Calvert's Capt. Lockheed and the Starfighters; BGO Records) 4.Hawkwind-- "Flight to Maputo" (Out and Intake; Flicknife Records) 5.Twink-- "1000 Words in a Cardboard Box/The Sparrow is a Sign" (Think Pink, various Pink Faries compilations) 6.Census of Hallucinations-- "Retching Retarded Rectors" (Opus 2; Stone Premonitions Records) 7.Amon Duul 2-- "Stumbling Over Melted Moonlight" (Dance of the Lemmings; UA/Liberty Records) 8.Gong-- "Gonwash Indelible" (Space Box comp; Cleopatra Records) 9.Anubian Lights-- "Mutashaker " (Live w/Nik Turner; Strange Trips Records) 10.Third Eye Foundation-- "In Bristol w/a Pistol" (You Guys Kill Me; Merge Records) 11.Alchemysts and Simeon-- "Interstellar 1-2-5" (Simeon and the Alchemysts; Rhubric Records) 12.Soixante Etages-- "Sur le Front" (Ubu et la Merdre comp; Musea/Gazul Records) 13.Zappa/Mothers-- "Once Upon a Time/Sofa #1" (You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore Vol. 1; Barking Pumpkin/Rykodisc Records) 14.Residents-- "Smelly Tongues" (Meet the Residents; Ralph Records) 15.Kraftwerk-- "Krystallo" (Ralf and Florian; Germanafon Records) 16.Vas Deferens Organization-- "Modular Squad" (Sweat Your Cheeses; Charnel Records) 17.Primus-- title track (Pork Soda; Interscope Records) 18.Anubian Lights-- "Mars" (Live w/Nik Turner; Strange Trips Records) 19.Architectural Metaphor-- "Brainticket" (Odysseum Galacti, Space Box comp) thanks, Chuck From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 26 03:09:21 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 16:39:21 +0930 Subject: black sword dvd.....make that Night of The Hawks DVD Message-ID: ch'ching Andy PLEASE put my trustworthy name down for a copy of the Night Of The Hawks DVD - Please Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 7:50 AM Subject: Re: black sword dvd.....make that Night of The Hawks DVD > Well then, you and a few others will be foaming at the mouth in anticipation > of the next Hawkwind DVD that is out mid-June from CD Services here in good > ol' UK, and that is 'Night Of The Hawks' with one bonus track that is > previously unreleased on video but I've completely forgotten what it is > (d'ooohhhhh!!!!). Anyway, our first 30 copies or so will be on offer, > thereafter full price, so if you want one register to me now at: > andygee at dial.pipex.com > Toodle pips, > Andy Garibaldi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pumpkin HEAD" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:33 AM > Subject: black sword dvd > > > *** Hope this post doesn't cause any youngsters to become druggies but if it > does then its a damn lame excuse - > > anyway > > Finally - got to watch my Black Sword DVD after a few months because my > brother bought a DVD player - Fired up some stinky skunks and had a funky > night allright > > Far frickin out - trippy or what - and the sound was decent enough > > 10/10 for visuals > 10/10 music > 10/10 for the budz > and the beer was awright too! > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 26 03:12:05 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 16:42:05 +0930 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy off off cough cough Message-ID: Oh!!!! Leave me alone!!! 8>) ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 9:38 AM Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > Should that be Mr. Baker? > > Dave, > > Student of languages and chemist > -----Original Message----- > From: John Majka > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 25 May 2001 00:22 > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > >"Was it the superstar syndrome, of which mr. Baker may have had a touch, > and > >John Majka, licensed English teacher and pharmacist! > >jmajka2 at home.com > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 26 03:12:49 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 16:42:49 +0930 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhh -wheres me sword and armour 8>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 9:00 AM Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > In message <03ac01c0e577$f580c5e0$4c51893e at default>, david hall > writes > >Should that be Mr. Baker? > > Since we're being pedantic, can I point out that it should be Mr Baker, i.e. > no full stop after "Mr". If an abbreviated word ends with the same letter as > the word itself, one doesn't use the full-stop. At least... I think so. > -- > Nick Medford From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Sat May 26 03:16:23 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 08:16:23 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: MY sword, MY!!!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: 26 May 2001 08:13 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhh -wheres me sword and armour 8>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 9:00 AM Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > In message <03ac01c0e577$f580c5e0$4c51893e at default>, david hall > writes > >Should that be Mr. Baker? > > Since we're being pedantic, can I point out that it should be Mr Baker, i.e. > no full stop after "Mr". If an abbreviated word ends with the same letter as > the word itself, one doesn't use the full-stop. At least... I think so. > -- > Nick Medford The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 26 03:23:36 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 16:53:36 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind and the legal issues of Supplying partial....... Message-ID: mp3 downloads for the uninitiated to sample and discover that there is more to music than the top 10 I would be EXTREMELY curious to know the Hawkwind stance or thoughts on such an issue and of course very interested to hear YOUR opinion on such an issue as I would dearly love to include such a feature at the ELECTRIC TEPEE I'm not talking complete songs - just partial snippets - enough for the curious to capture the essence of what IS the most incredible music to ever grace the stereos and concert halls of this fine galaxy and even possibly beyond!! Mr Tepee From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 26 03:25:56 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Riger Mortis Rat) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 16:55:56 +0930 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Perhaps we could ..... share? ----- Original Message ----- From: Samantha Kirwan To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 4:46 PM Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > MY sword, MY!!!! > > Sam > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: 26 May 2001 08:13 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhh -wheres me sword and armour > > 8>) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nick Medford > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 9:00 AM > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > > In message <03ac01c0e577$f580c5e0$4c51893e at default>, david hall > > writes > > >Should that be Mr. Baker? > > > > Since we're being pedantic, can I point out that it should be Mr Baker, > i.e. > > no full stop after "Mr". If an abbreviated word ends with the same letter > as > > the word itself, one doesn't use the full-stop. At least... I think so. > > -- > > Nick Medford > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. > > ntl Group Limited > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 26 03:26:24 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Riger Mortis Rat) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 16:56:24 +0930 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: thats not my real name either ;>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Samantha Kirwan To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 4:46 PM Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > MY sword, MY!!!! > > Sam > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: 26 May 2001 08:13 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhh -wheres me sword and armour > > 8>) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nick Medford > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 9:00 AM > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > > In message <03ac01c0e577$f580c5e0$4c51893e at default>, david hall > > writes > > >Should that be Mr. Baker? > > > > Since we're being pedantic, can I point out that it should be Mr Baker, > i.e. > > no full stop after "Mr". If an abbreviated word ends with the same letter > as > > the word itself, one doesn't use the full-stop. At least... I think so. > > -- > > Nick Medford > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. > > ntl Group Limited > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 26 03:32:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 17:02:45 +0930 Subject: Today is HAWKWIND DAY Message-ID: Yes its official - today is Hawkwind day and it is your duty as official Hawkwind fans to think and project your love and adoration thru the psychic ethers directly to our glorious heroes- Mr Dream From novadrive at HOME.COM Sat May 26 04:07:04 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 01:07:04 -0700 Subject: Source for Spacebrock soundbite? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't want to sound like a clich? ("The movie was good but you have to read the book."), but I'm going to: The movie was good but you HAVE to read the book. It's by Ken Kesey, and is told from the point of view of Chief, who was coherent here (if hidden to himself), but SERIOUSLY deranged. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Kevin Sommers Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:26 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Source for Spacebrock soundbite? You should always try Google for a good web scouring...using it, I found this: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Flats/4396/fam.html Go to the very (almost) bottom. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Marshall Wood Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:05 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Source for Spacebrock soundbite? At the start of track 17 of _Spacebrock_, "Do You Want this Body?", there is a great rant that goes like this: I'm not just talking about my wife, I'm talking about my life - I can't seem to get that through to you. I'm not just talking about one person, I'm talking about everybody. I'm talking about form, I'm talking about content, I'm talking about interrelationships, I'm talking about God, the devil, Hell, Heaven! Do you understand!??! Finally!??! I am assuming that this is taken from a movie - anyone know the source? I've been scouring the 'net for it, with no luck. MWood NP: _Spacebrock_ From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Sat May 26 04:10:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 09:10:00 +0100 Subject: HW: King and Powell Message-ID: >>Who played on what on HotMG - is it Simon on the live stuff and Alan on = the studio? >>How did they split it live? - two full kits and straight duplication? = one on full kit and the other on percussion? The photo on the Warrior = inner bag seems to suggest two full kits. Err...HotMG is just Simon, Alan didn't join til later 8-)))) When they were both playing, I think it was two full kits with Alan doing most of the straighter rhythm stuff and occasional percussion, while Simon kept it all going more in the blanga bits and allowed himself to do more fills.... Or something like that.... Anyone else got an opinion? ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat May 26 05:11:46 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 10:11:46 +0100 Subject: HW: King and Powell Message-ID: As I'm sure you're aware, Alan Powell was invited to join temporarily after Simon King broke some ribs playing football. This was after Hall of the Mountain Grill was recorded. As we know, Alan remained in the ranks when Simon rejoined. There was two full kits - some numbers both Alan and Simon would play on (Magnu/Time for Sale), some would feature just Simon (some of the older stuff usually) and some just Alan (eg, Chronoglide Skyway). On Steppenwolf for example, Simon plays the drums whilst Alan plays mostly percussion. Opa Loka is both of them, Simon plays the fast beat, Alan plays it half-time. You really have to listen to Warriors/Astounding/Live '76/Watchfield to get a feel for their different styles. As for how many gigs, someone like Adrian Parr or Bernhard P. might be better placed to answer that. Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 1:18 AM Subject: HW: King and Powell Can someone answer the following questions: Who played on what on HotMG - is it Simon on the live stuff and Alan on the studio? How many gigs did they play together? How did they split it live? - two full kits and straight duplication? one on full kit and the other on percussion? The photo on the Warrior inner bag seems to suggest two full kits. Dave From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat May 26 05:42:37 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 11:42:37 +0200 Subject: HW: King and Powell In-Reply-To: <001701c0e579$66b95780$4c51893e@default> Message-ID: Hi At 01:18 26.05.2001 +0100, you wrote: >Can someone answer the following questions: >Who played on what on HotMG - is it Simon on the live stuff and Alan on the studio? Its only Simon King >How many gigs did they play together? Here are all gigs when PO and/or KI were involved in 1974-1976 BR = Brock KI = King PO = Powell CA = Calvert HO = House MT = Matthews TU = Turner DE = Dettmar LE = Lemmy RU = Rudolph TOWN: HALL: DATE: DAY: LINE-UP: Sindelfingen Messehalle 09.06.1974 Sun BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO K?ln Uni 10.06.1974 Mon BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO Bonn Underground 11.06.1974 Tue BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO Mailand Festival 16.06.1974 Sun BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO Marrum Festival 20.06.1974 Thu BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO Groningen Cultureel Centrum 21.06.1974 Fri BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO Arnheim Stokvishal 22.06.1974 Sat BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO Den Haag Congresgebouw 24.06.1974 Mon BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO Amsterdam Concertgebouw 25.06.1974 Tue BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO/MT Rotterdam Doelen 26.06.1974 Wed BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO Paris Olympia 02.07.1974 Tue BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO Harlow Park Festival 10.08.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO/MO/CA Bristol Festival 11.08.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Windsor Home Park 28.08.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Detroit Ford Auditorium 06.09.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Chicago Auditorium Theatre 07.09.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO/MT Cleveland Allen Theatre 08.09.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Madison 11.09.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Cincinnati 13.09.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Dayton 14.09.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Aurora 19.09.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Milwaukee Auditorium 20.09.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Hammond Civic Center 21.09.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO St.Louis Auditorium 15.10.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Memphis 16.10.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Kansas City Memorial Hall 18.10.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Lincoln 19.10.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Oklahoma City 20.10.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Wichita Convention Hall 22.10.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Akron University 26.10.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Chicago Auditorium Theatre 28.10.1974 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Chicago Palace 30.10.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Detroit Theatre 31.10.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO New York Academy Of Music 02.11.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Belgien 16.11.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Brussels University 17.11.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Belgien 18.11.1974 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Paris Olympia 23.11.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Dijon Congress Palace 24.11.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Colmar 25.11.1974 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Poitiers Arena 26.11.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Lyon Palais D'Hiver 27.11.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Grenoble Sports Hall 28.11.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Marseille Salle Vallier 29.11.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Tunbridge Wells Assembly Halls 10.12.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Newcastle City Hall 12.12.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Glasgow Apollo 13.12.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Manchester Palace Theatre 14.12.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Birmingham Odeon 15.12.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Southend Kursal 21.12.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Cardiff Capitol 07.01.1975 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Wolverhampton Civic Hall 08.01.1975 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Birmingham Odeon 10.01.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Bournemouth Winter Gardens 11.01.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Paignton Festival Theatre 12.01.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Watford Town Hall 13.01.1975 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Southampton Gaumont 14.01.1975 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Liverpool Stadium 18.01.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Oxford New Theatre 19.01.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Derby Kings Hall 23.01.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Clackton Town Hall 24.01.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Bracknell Sports Centre 25.01.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Leicester DeMontfort Hall 30.01.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Lancaster University 31.01.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Leeds University 01.02.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Coventry Theatre 02.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Malvern Winter Gardens 06.02.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO London Eastham 07.02.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Cambridge Corn Exchange 08.02.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO London Hammersmith Odeon 09.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO London Hammersmith Odeon 10.02.1975 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Bradford St.Georges Hall 12.02.1975 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Halifax Civic Hall 13.02.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Chatham Central Hall 15.02.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO London Roundhouse 16.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Guildford Civic Hall 23.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Worthing Assembly Hall 24.02.1975 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Yeovil Johnson Hall 12.04.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Dunstable Queensway Hall 13.04.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO St.Louis Auditorium 29.04.1975 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Chicago Arie Crown 07.05.1975 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Hammond Civic Center 09.05.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Detroit Ford Auditorium 10.05.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Cleveland Allen Theatre 16.05.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Toronto Convocation Hall 18.05.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO Indianapolis Rivoli Theatre 22.05.1975 Thu BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Milwaukee Uptown Theatre 23.05.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Hamburg Markthalle 30.05.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Mainz Elzer Hof 01.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Saarbr?cken University 04.06.1975 Wed BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Bensberg S?gem?hle 05.06.1975 Thu BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Duisburg Audimax 06.06.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Siegen Stadtb?hne 07.06.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Bonn Stadthalle 08.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO M?nchen Theater Brienenstra?e 10.06.1975 Tue BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Frick Festival 15.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Brussels Janson University 18.06.1975 Wed BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Bordeaux Sports Palace 19.06.1975 Thu BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Poitiers Arena 20.06.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Nantes Exhibition Hall 21.06.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Paris Bastille 22.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Toulouse Comminges Hall 23.06.1975 Mon BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Metz Sport Palace 25.06.1975 Wed BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Dijon Congress Palace 27.06.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Nimes Arena 28.06.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Newcastle Mayfair 25.07.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Liverpool Stadium 26.07.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Torquay Town Hall 01.08.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Truro Plaza 04.08.1975 Mon BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Sunderland City Hall 08.08.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Edinburgh Usher Hall 09.08.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Glasgow Apollo 10.08.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO Reading Festival 22.08.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO/CA/MT Watchfield Festival 23.08.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO Halden Festival 30.08.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO Lund Olympen 04.09.1975 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO Cambrai Festival 07.09.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO Reims Opera 23.09.1975 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO Maastricht Staargebouw 26.09.1975 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO Venlo Concertgebouw 27.09.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO Assen De Kolk 28.09.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO L?neburg 01.10.1975 Wed BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO Stuttgart Gustav Siegle Haus 05.10.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO Birmingham Bingly Hall 12.12.1975 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Southend Kursal 13.12.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Reading Top Rank 14.12.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Cardiff Top Rank 16.12.1975 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Uxbridge Brunel University 17.12.1975 Wed BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Ipswich Gaumont 18.12.1975 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Norwich St.Andrews Hall 19.12.1975 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Edmonton Picketts Lock 20.12.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Southampton Top Rank 21.12.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Salford University 05.03.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO London Imperial College 06.03.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Malvern Winter Gardens 09.03.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Bournemouth Winter Gardens 12.03.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Sheffield University 13.03.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Preston Guild Hall 14.03.1976 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Barnstaple Queensway Hall 10.07.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Cardiff Castle 24.07.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Sheffield City Hall 15.09.1976 Wed BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Birmingham Odeon 16.09.1976 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Liverpool Empire 17.09.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Manchester Palace Theatre 18.09.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Newcastle City Hall 19.09.1976 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Edinburgh Usher Hall 20.09.1976 Mon BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Glasgow Apollo 21.09.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Aberdeen Capitol 22.09.1976 Wed BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Oxford New Theatre 25.09.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Cardiff Capitol 26.09.1976 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Bristol Colston Hall 27.09.1976 Mon BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Guildford Civic Hall 28.09.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Dunstable Queensway Hall 30.09.1976 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Southampton Gaumont 01.10.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Ipswich Gaumont 02.10.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Leicester DeMontfort Hall 04.10.1976 Mon BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO London Hammersmith Odeon 05.10.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >How did they split it live? - two full kits and straight duplication? Yes, with two full kits Hope that helps Bernhard From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat May 26 08:38:17 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 22:08:17 +0930 Subject: HW: King and Powell Message-ID: Sadly I lack the knowledge to participate on that ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Litchfield To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 5:40 PM Subject: HW: King and Powell > >>Who played on what on HotMG - is it Simon on the live stuff and Alan on > = > the studio? > >>How did they split it live? - two full kits and straight duplication? = > one on full kit and the other on percussion? The photo on the Warrior = > inner bag seems to suggest two full kits. > > Err...HotMG is just Simon, Alan didn't join til later 8-)))) > > When they were both playing, I think it was two full kits with Alan doing > most of the straighter rhythm stuff and occasional percussion, while Simon > kept it all going more in the blanga bits and allowed himself to do more > fills.... > > Or something like that.... Anyone else got an opinion? > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 26 09:18:12 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 09:18:12 EDT Subject: HW: King and Powell Message-ID: bernhard.... were those statistics, or tapes you have? early '75 warrior tour w/lemmy? get back to me; "<>" From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat May 26 10:02:50 2001 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 16:02:50 +0200 Subject: HW:Apologies Message-ID: Hello all, Sorry to have not replied to any lately as lots of things has happened over here. Mostly sad news.My mother in law died and some weeks later my sister in law. So had to support my wife a lot. Furthermore had another promotion at work,so lots of work involved again. Really turning into a yuppie (ducking) Hey,like the money. Gives me the upportunity to buy Hawkwind stuff. So all who have trades and promises from me contact me.I'll arrange them as soon as possible(Arin,Merrick,Eric Siegelman, that guy who was with you at the Astoria-hotel(he who did the lights for the Nik Turner tour)etc.,etc.) Sorry if I forget anyone. Anyway contact me. best wishes filip hawknut From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Sat May 26 10:07:58 2001 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 10:07:58 -0400 Subject: BOC, BRAIN: "24th of May..." In-Reply-To: <3B0CFD2A.2BD567BE@mitre.org> Message-ID: >Happy Birthday Albert T. Bouchard! Thanks John and happy 24th of May to you. To celebrate this special day MP3.com has finally put "the bass player's cut" of "Sinful Love" from the new Cellsum album, "To Helen With Love" on the Brain Surgeons page http:mp3.com/brainsurgeons/ This is a different mix from the version that is on the final album but in the opinion of some people involved in the recording of it, at least as good, if not better. Check it out. From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat May 26 10:15:33 2001 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 16:15:33 +0200 Subject: HW:Angels Of Death Message-ID: Hello, Just have in a LPcopy of the RCA "Angels Of Death" and the labels on the record itself are completely black.No print at all!! Could this be a test-pressing?? Any info,anyone,anywhere,anyhow?? greetings filip hawknut From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat May 26 12:26:07 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:26:07 -0400 Subject: SLOTERDIJK seeks shows: NJ, PA, NY, (Long Island), CT, MD & DE Message-ID: The heavy rock project SLOTERDIJK is seeking additional northeast coast dates for their "Uranium Zone" tour. We are desperately in need of a return engagement on Long Island, New York. With regard to this one location, we are willing to play a benefit show, private affair etc. We have business to attend to on Long Island, and generally do not like traveling to any location without playing there. If you are a Long Island band looking for an established act to gig with, or if you are a booking agent/club owner etc, please contact us directly..We really need to get back to Long Island!!!! Below is a list of useful resources regarding SLOTERDIK: www.mp3.com/sloterdijk ( our mp3 site. Here you will find FREE mp3 files, bio, tourdates, contact info etc) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk ( a small clip of streming video, courtesy of the "Metalzone Radio Network" www.psychedelic-music.de ( a review of our "Integration" CD, can be found here, by clicking on "bands" and then "sloterdijk".) www.zeitgeist-scot.com ( searcable index featured here, also a brand new review of the "Uranium Zone" CD, under "latest reviews".) www.lollipopshop.de (Lollipop Shop Records) www.swamproom.de ( our european distributor) Notable shows beween 1999-2001 Beltane Celebration, Fergies Pub, Philadelphia, 1999, 2000 New Jersey Spacerock Invasion; My. Holly, NJ 1999 Strange Daze Spacerock Festival, Nelson Ledges, Ohio 1999 New Jersey State Planetarium ( special show within the dome), Trenton, NJ 1999 Club La Zone: Leige, Belgium 1999 De Blauw Aanslag: ( 19th anniversary celebration), The Hague, Netherlands, 1999 The Druid's Ball" The Druid's Keep, Philadelphia, PA, 2000 Dunckerclub: Berlin, Germany, 1999, 2000 Hamburg Hawkfest; Hamburg, Germany, 2000 The Mandlebrot Sets ( A New England Spacerock Festival), Hartford, CT, 2000 Julia Set Dream ( an evening of music, lights and space), Nesconset, NY (Long Island); 2000 The Traveling Outerspace Spectaclar (supporting Harvey Bainbridge of Hawkwind), Philadelphia, and New York City, 2000 30th annual bike day weekend, sponsored by The Freedomriders MC; Montgomery County, PA, 2000 "The Wrong Way Inn", Amityville, NY (Long Island) 2001 upcoming shows: May 27th: Ratskeller; Doylestown, PA June 1: "Rockers"; Philadelphia PA ( 215) July 1: "The Pontiac", Philadelphia, PA Please contact us directly at: SLOTERDIJK at webtv.net www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat May 26 12:54:11 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:54:11 -0400 Subject: OFF: SLOTERDIJK CDs Message-ID: Hello friends, recently I was told that there was an interest among a few individuals in obtaining Sloterdijk cds, but that people were unsure how to get them. I was also informed of the possibility of forming or incorporating Sloterdijk material into a cdr "burning tree". This is a cool idea, however, I still think that people in North America are unaware that they can in fact purchase both Sloterdijk cds directly from me. I was moved when I was informed that people were reluctant to order from my european distributor, because they doubted whether or not I would ever actually see a penny from such a sale..I tell you now, that if you are in Europe or The UK and you want to order the "Integration" CD, don't be afraid to order it from Swamproom Records www.swamproom.de They are a very reputable distributor of psych and spacerock in Germany, and they process orders for other distros throughout that area. Now, if you are in either Europe or North America, or anywhere else on the globe for that matter, you can obtain the new "Uranium Zone" CD directly through me. In addition, I still have copies of the Integration CD here as well, but they are in very limited supply. Once they are all sold out, the only way to get an original pressing, will be through swamproom. Also, once all the original pressings are gone on this side of the atlantic, I will only be able to offer cdr copies from the original, but with all the real artwork, inserts etc. At this time I have about 12 of the original german pressings in my possession. The balance of the inventory was actually bought outright by swampoom. This burning tree, may in time be a lucrative way for people to obtain the material, but until I see an increased demand, I see no current reason to set up a paypal account etc. If you are interested in ordering any material directly from me, just drop me an e-mail, and I will give you the price quote, postal address etc. The preferred method of payment is money order. I am issuing this statement, because I still think people are unaware of the fact that these items can be obtained directly through me.. Thanks, and Peace, MIke Burro (Sloterdijk) PS Sloterdijk has received over 3000 plays on mp3.com since November 2000!!!! Thanks to everyone who gave a listen!!!! www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Sat May 26 12:57:10 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:57:10 -0400 Subject: HW: Fan, Frendz, Free Festivals stuff Message-ID: Wandering through a box of bits and pieces and found several piles of old Frendz Fans etc including Stonehenge campaig stuff. Have started to scan in the covers, so if you feel like wandering down memeory lane, pop off to; http://the-rocker.netfirms.com/hawk.html And relive tents that were too small, people who were a bit iffy and rain that was too wet:-) Stuart Hawkwind shop - http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=HAWKWIND&s=1151 BOC shop - http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=BLUE_OYSTER_CULT&s=1151 From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat May 26 13:33:33 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 19:33:33 +0200 Subject: HW: King and Powell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Larry At 09:18 26.05.2001 -0400, you wrote: >bernhard.... >were those statistics, or tapes you have? Sorry to dissapoint you Larry. Only statistics. I've got only a couple of tapes (22 tapes) from this period. I'd give my left arm if I could get all these gigs on tape... >early '75 warrior tour w/lemmy? Yes of course. Lemmy was sacked later that year during the US tour on the Canadian border Bernhard From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Sat May 26 17:54:10 2001 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 14:54:10 -0700 Subject: HW: King and Powell: Mathews? In-Reply-To: <200105260949.LAA15216@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: Lemme ask the question, Who is Matthews? A roadie that played occasionally? Wouldn't think he was a "local guest", Amsterdam and Chicago are geographically (and other ways) light years apart. Dave >BR = Brock >KI = King >PO = Powell >CA = Calvert >HO = House >MT = Matthews >TU = Turner >DE = Dettmar >LE = Lemmy >RU = Rudolph > > >TOWN: HALL: DATE: DAY: LINE-UP: >Sindelfingen Messehalle 09.06.1974 Sun BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >K?ln Uni 10.06.1974 Mon BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >Bonn Underground 11.06.1974 Tue BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >Mailand Festival 16.06.1974 Sun BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >Marrum Festival 20.06.1974 Thu BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >Groningen Cultureel Centrum 21.06.1974 Fri >BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >Arnheim Stokvishal 22.06.1974 Sat BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >Den Haag Congresgebouw 24.06.1974 Mon BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO >Amsterdam Concertgebouw 25.06.1974 Tue BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO/MT >Rotterdam Doelen 26.06.1974 Wed BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO >Paris Olympia 02.07.1974 Tue BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO >Harlow Park Festival 10.08.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO/MO/CA >Bristol Festival 11.08.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Windsor Home Park 28.08.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Detroit Ford Auditorium 06.09.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Chicago Auditorium Theatre 07.09.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO/MT >Cleveland Allen Theatre 08.09.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Madison 11.09.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Cincinnati 13.09.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Dayton 14.09.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Aurora 19.09.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Milwaukee Auditorium 20.09.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Hammond Civic Center 21.09.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >St.Louis Auditorium 15.10.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Memphis 16.10.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Kansas City Memorial Hall 18.10.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Lincoln 19.10.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Oklahoma City 20.10.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Wichita Convention Hall 22.10.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Akron University 26.10.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Chicago Auditorium Theatre 28.10.1974 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Chicago Palace 30.10.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Detroit Theatre 31.10.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >New York Academy Of Music 02.11.1974 Sat >BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Belgien 16.11.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Brussels University 17.11.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Belgien 18.11.1974 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Paris Olympia 23.11.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Dijon Congress Palace 24.11.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Colmar 25.11.1974 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Poitiers Arena 26.11.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Lyon Palais D'Hiver 27.11.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Grenoble Sports Hall 28.11.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Marseille Salle Vallier 29.11.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Tunbridge Wells Assembly Halls 10.12.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Newcastle City Hall 12.12.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Glasgow Apollo 13.12.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Manchester Palace Theatre 14.12.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Birmingham Odeon 15.12.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Southend Kursal 21.12.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Cardiff Capitol 07.01.1975 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Wolverhampton Civic Hall 08.01.1975 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Birmingham Odeon 10.01.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Bournemouth Winter Gardens 11.01.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Paignton Festival Theatre 12.01.1975 Sun >BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Watford Town Hall 13.01.1975 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Southampton Gaumont 14.01.1975 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Liverpool Stadium 18.01.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Oxford New Theatre 19.01.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Derby Kings Hall 23.01.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Clackton Town Hall 24.01.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Bracknell Sports Centre 25.01.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Leicester DeMontfort Hall 30.01.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Lancaster University 31.01.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Leeds University 01.02.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Coventry Theatre 02.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Malvern Winter Gardens 06.02.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >London Eastham 07.02.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Cambridge Corn Exchange 08.02.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >London Hammersmith Odeon 09.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >London Hammersmith Odeon 10.02.1975 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Bradford St.Georges Hall 12.02.1975 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Halifax Civic Hall 13.02.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Chatham Central Hall 15.02.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >London Roundhouse 16.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Guildford Civic Hall 23.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Worthing Assembly Hall 24.02.1975 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Yeovil Johnson Hall 12.04.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Dunstable Queensway Hall 13.04.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >St.Louis Auditorium 29.04.1975 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Chicago Arie Crown 07.05.1975 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Hammond Civic Center 09.05.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Detroit Ford Auditorium 10.05.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Cleveland Allen Theatre 16.05.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Toronto Convocation Hall 18.05.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Indianapolis Rivoli Theatre 22.05.1975 Thu BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Milwaukee Uptown Theatre 23.05.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Hamburg Markthalle 30.05.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Mainz Elzer Hof 01.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Saarbr?cken University 04.06.1975 Wed BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Bensberg S?gem?hle 05.06.1975 Thu BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Duisburg Audimax 06.06.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Siegen Stadtb?hne 07.06.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Bonn Stadthalle 08.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >M?nchen Theater Brienenstra?e 10.06.1975 Tue BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Frick Festival 15.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Brussels Janson University 18.06.1975 Wed >BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Bordeaux Sports Palace 19.06.1975 Thu BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Poitiers Arena 20.06.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Nantes Exhibition Hall 21.06.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Paris Bastille 22.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Toulouse Comminges Hall 23.06.1975 Mon BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Metz Sport Palace 25.06.1975 Wed BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Dijon Congress Palace 27.06.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Nimes Arena 28.06.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Newcastle Mayfair 25.07.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Liverpool Stadium 26.07.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Torquay Town Hall 01.08.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Truro Plaza 04.08.1975 Mon BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Sunderland City Hall 08.08.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Edinburgh Usher Hall 09.08.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Glasgow Apollo 10.08.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Reading Festival 22.08.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO/CA/MT >Watchfield Festival 23.08.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO >Halden Festival 30.08.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Lund Olympen 04.09.1975 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Cambrai Festival 07.09.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Reims Opera 23.09.1975 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Maastricht Staargebouw 26.09.1975 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Venlo Concertgebouw 27.09.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Assen De Kolk 28.09.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >L?neburg 01.10.1975 Wed BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Stuttgart Gustav Siegle Haus 05.10.1975 Sun >BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Birmingham Bingly Hall 12.12.1975 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Southend Kursal 13.12.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Reading Top Rank 14.12.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Cardiff Top Rank 16.12.1975 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Uxbridge Brunel University 17.12.1975 Wed >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Ipswich Gaumont 18.12.1975 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Norwich St.Andrews Hall 19.12.1975 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Edmonton Picketts Lock 20.12.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Southampton Top Rank 21.12.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Salford University 05.03.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >London Imperial College 06.03.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Malvern Winter Gardens 09.03.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Bournemouth Winter Gardens 12.03.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Sheffield University 13.03.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Preston Guild Hall 14.03.1976 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Barnstaple Queensway Hall 10.07.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Cardiff Castle 24.07.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Sheffield City Hall 15.09.1976 Wed BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Birmingham Odeon 16.09.1976 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Liverpool Empire 17.09.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Manchester Palace Theatre 18.09.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Newcastle City Hall 19.09.1976 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Edinburgh Usher Hall 20.09.1976 Mon BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Glasgow Apollo 21.09.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Aberdeen Capitol 22.09.1976 Wed BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Oxford New Theatre 25.09.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Cardiff Capitol 26.09.1976 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Bristol Colston Hall 27.09.1976 Mon BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Guildford Civic Hall 28.09.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Dunstable Queensway Hall 30.09.1976 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Southampton Gaumont 01.10.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Ipswich Gaumont 02.10.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Leicester DeMontfort Hall 04.10.1976 Mon BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >London Hammersmith Odeon 05.10.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > > >>How did they split it live? - two full kits and straight duplication? > >Yes, with two full kits > > >Hope that helps >Bernhard From erics at TELEPRES.COM Sat May 26 16:20:12 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 16:20:12 -0400 Subject: Today is HAWKWIND DAY In-Reply-To: <00d601c0e5b6$0ee87da0$f6cb223f@michaelangelo68>; from michaelangelo68@OZEMAIL.COM.AU on Sat, May 26, 2001 at 05:02:45PM +0930 Message-ID: On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 05:02:45PM +0930, Mich at el B wrote: > Yes its official - today is Hawkwind day and it is your duty as > official Hawkwind fans to think and project your love and > adoration thru the psychic ethers directly to our glorious > heroes- > > Mr Dream I couldn't think of a better day for Hawkwind Day to be, seeing as it's also my birthday :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat May 26 19:22:18 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 00:22:18 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) In-Reply-To: <002701c0d0f9$f29d40c0$619cbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > Strange days here in the UK - just about finsihed with the new CDS > catalogue - unfortunately Voiceprint were being reticent about new release > info concerning the next thing due which is the Nottingham '90 CD (still > don;t know if it's a double CD or not), Ozit won't give a track list for the > Nik Turner double from last year or even a correct title, and I've not yet > got to Alan so I haven't got a firm date for Bedouin either, but thye're all > in there anyway. Andy, I realise that when the catalogue is finihsed I'll rapidly be finding out, but what's this Nik thing you refer to here? More Sphynx stuff from the Deeply Vale archives or something more modern? Yours curiously, Jon ObCD: Krel - _Ad Astra_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun May 27 02:00:15 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:00:15 +0800 Subject: black sword dvd.....make that Night of The Hawks DVD Message-ID: The extra track could be Night of the Hawks itself, which I've seen a film clip for? William ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 6:20 AM Subject: Re: black sword dvd.....make that Night of The Hawks DVD > Well then, you and a few others will be foaming at the mouth in anticipation > of the next Hawkwind DVD that is out mid-June from CD Services here in good > ol' UK, and that is 'Night Of The Hawks' with one bonus track that is > previously unreleased on video but I've completely forgotten what it is > (d'ooohhhhh!!!!). Anyway, our first 30 copies or so will be on offer, > thereafter full price, so if you want one register to me now at: > andygee at dial.pipex.com > Toodle pips, > Andy Garibaldi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pumpkin HEAD" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:33 AM > Subject: black sword dvd > > > *** Hope this post doesn't cause any youngsters to become druggies but if it > does then its a damn lame excuse - > > anyway > > Finally - got to watch my Black Sword DVD after a few months because my > brother bought a DVD player - Fired up some stinky skunks and had a funky > night allright > > Far frickin out - trippy or what - and the sound was decent enough > > 10/10 for visuals > 10/10 music > 10/10 for the budz > and the beer was awright too! > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun May 27 03:51:21 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:21:21 +0930 Subject: Today is HAWKWIND DAY Message-ID: Happy Happy Boithday 8>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Siegerman To: Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 5:50 AM Subject: Re: Today is HAWKWIND DAY > On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 05:02:45PM +0930, Mich at el B wrote: > > Yes its official - today is Hawkwind day and it is your duty as > > official Hawkwind fans to think and project your love and > > adoration thru the psychic ethers directly to our glorious > > heroes- > > > > Mr Dream > > I couldn't think of a better day for Hawkwind Day to be, seeing > as it's also my birthday :-) > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > necessarily a good idea. > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) > From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sun May 27 06:00:36 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:00:36 +0200 Subject: HW: List of homegrown CD-R's Message-ID: Hi folks It really makes me very sad to see how much money HAWKFANS are paying (on EBAY) for crap CD-R's like Newcastle 73, Paris 77 or countless compilations CD-R's with incomplete gigs It seems that someone only has to give an interesting title to such a CD-R and the unsuspecting HAWKWIND fan is willing to pay a huge amount of money to buy that shit! What a shame!!! Therefore I have decided to publish my (and Rainer Wanglers) private colletion of homegrown HAWKWIND CD-R's. Most of them are COMPLETE gigs and they have all multicoloured sleeves. And yes, most of them are made from the best quality tapes I have. The qualities are much better than the known CD-R's from EBAY sellers or such recordings like I WANT TO BE BESIDE THE SEASIDE (Waiting For Nati) or A QUARK NIGHT IN PARIS (A Strange Night in Paris). I (and Rainer) do not want to sell these CD-R's. We do not want to ripp the band off. All we want is to swap these CD-R's with friendly HAWKWIND fans to bulid up our collection and to show to you all that there are existing far better qualities. OK, here is the list: TOWN HALL DATE TIME TITLE Wolverhampton Civic Hall 26.07.1971 70 The Shores Of Paradize Birmingham Kinetic Playground 06.12.1971 80 Kinetic Playground Wolverhampton Civic Hall 10.01.1972 65 Paranoia Dreaming Windsor Home Park 25.08.1973 70 Ode To A Time Flower New York Academy Of Music 25.11.1973 100 Academy Of Music Detroit Ford Auditorium 28.11.1973 110 Only Dreaming Newcastle City Hall 11.12.1973 100 Comming Of Hawkwind London Roundhouse 16.02.1975 90 The Awakening Toulouse Comminges Hall 23.06.1975 60 On The Edge Of Time Reading Festival 22.08.1975 110 Ode To A Crystal Set Watchfield Festival 23.08.1975 85 The Day After Reading London Imperial College 06.03.1976 80 Imperial College Bristol Colston Hall 27.09.1976 80 Atomhenge 76 Amsterdam Paradiso 11.03.1977 75 The Golden Dream Paris Salle Pleyel 23.04.1977 80 A Strange Night In Paris Camden Music Machine 10.06.1977 80 The Forge Of Vulcan 77 Stonehenge Festival 21.06.1977 50 Stonehenge Free Festival Newcastle City Hall 20.09.1977 85 London Hammersmith Odeon 05.10.1977 80 Assassins Of Allah New York (1st gig) Bottom Line 06.03.1978 50 High Rise 78 New York (2nd gig) Bottom Line 06.03.1978 60 High Rise 78 Leicester DeMontfort Hall 23.10.1978 110 Plymouth Polytechnic 23.11.1978 60 The Time Of The Hawklords Edinburgh Odeon 17.11.1979 90 Spirit Of Edinburgh Folkestone Leas Cliff Hall 12.07.1980 80 Waiting For Nati Liverpool Empire 11.10.1980 55 The Liverpool Lighthouse Glasgow Apollo 21.10.1980 80 Gravitation Doncaster Rotters 10.11.1980 70 Dangerous Visions Glastonbury Festival 20.06.1981 70 Scriptures In The Sand Barnstaple Snapper Festival 29.08.1981 80 Motorway City 81 Castle Donnington Monsters Of Rock 21.08.1982 60 Donnington 82 Glasgow Apollo 19.10.1982 90 Apollo Attack Bristol Colston Hall 31.10.1982 110 Choose The Side That You'll Be On Southampton Gaumont 01.11.1982 85 Chippenham Goldiggers Club 15.11.1982 120 Cardiff St.Davids Hall 16.03.1984 100 Stonehenge Festival 20.06.1984 110 Stonehenge Leicester Kiesa's Ballroom 20.11.1984 110 1984 Crystal Palace Anti Heroin Festival 24.08.1985 50 The Silver Surfer In The Dust Of Time Frankfurt Batschkapp 26.05.1987 80 Arrival In Frankfurt Leeds Queens Hall 12.12.1987 80 Acid Daze II London Hammersmith Odeon 22.04.1988 90 Mad Experiments With A Noble Gas Birmingham Powerhouse 04.12.1988 90 Heads Northampton Kamikazi 11.12.1988 90 The Kamikazi Chronicals Manchester International 09.06.1989 80 The Damage Of Life Treworgey Tree Fayre Festival 29.07.1989 85 Treworgey Tree Fayre Brixton Academy 03.09.1989 95 Space Warriors Washington 9:30 Club 26.09.1989 90 The Pulse Somerville Johnny D's 27.09.1989 100 Welcome To Somerville New York New Ritz 28.09.1989 110 Chicago Lounge Axe 01.10.1989 80 Lounge Axe Milwaukee Odd Rock Cafe 03.10.1989 85 Travellers Through Eternity Minneapolis First Avenue 04.10.1989 90 Damnation Alley / Damnation Alley II San Francisco Stone 07.10.1989 90 Eleven Years Norwich University 01.12.1989 110 Nottingham Lenton Lane Studios 25.01.1990 60 Live Legends Washington 9:30 Club 02.12.1990 95 Century Of The Hawk River Grove Thirsty Whale 08.12.1990 100 Face Of The Earth San Francisco I - Beam 17.12.1990 95 Fun In San Francisco M?nchen Nachtwerk 25.03.1991 120 Check Control Rom Castello Club 04.04.1991 140 The Shade Gate St.Catherines Hideaway 17.05.1991 80 Just Another Techno Gig Minneapolis First Avenue 21.05.1991 80 First Avenue Reading University 19.05.1992 75 Secret Tepee Reading University 19.05.1992 100 Supersonic Spaceage Peacehead Bristol University 13.11.1993 90 K?ln Live Music Hall 02.12.1993 90 Live Music Hall Brixton Fridge 14.04.1994 100 K?ln Live Music Hall 13.11.1994 90 Space Is Their Cleveland Agora 07.04.1995 80 Silicon Chip In My Head Boulder Fox Theatre 23.04.1995 95 The A Files Borehamwood Venue 14.10.1995 110 Portsmouth Guild Hall 23.10.1995 110 Alternative Alien Chicago Cubby Bear 24.08.1997 95 Close Encounters Of The Third Strike Whitby Dracula Festival 27.09.1997 85 Dracfest 97 Poole Arts Centre 03.10.1997 70 Masters Of Delirium Liverpool Empire 23.10.1997 85 Alchemy Garrettsville Strange Daze Festival 15.08.1998 70 We Are The Ones Who Are Left Pentrich Coneygrey Showground 30.07.1999 85 Milton Keynes Wavendon Stables 10.11.1999 115 On The Edge Of A Millennium Sydney Studio 22 24.02.2000 25 Studio 22 Auckland Powerstation 26.02.2000 110 Ystalyfera Festival 21.07.2000 145 Dragonhead Brixton Academy 21.10.2000 215 Hawkestra All Nite Brixton Academy 21.10.2000 215 Brixton In A Box London Astoria 29.12.2000 115 X-Mas Party Croydon Fairfields Hall 25.03.2001 110 Spiral Galaxy Leeds Irish Centre 03.04.2001 100 Irish Centre cheers Bernhard From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun May 27 07:15:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (OverkiLL) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 05:15:57 -0600 Subject: HW: List of homegrown CD-R's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: WOW!!! parallel universes!!!!!! m c (nice list....)!!!! From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun May 27 07:32:23 2001 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:32:23 +0200 Subject: HW: List of homegrown CD-R's Message-ID: Well Bernie, You've excelled yourself again. Feel some jealousy creeping up. Can't agree more with the exchanging idea (but you know me already long enough to know we share the same ideas on that matter) Anyway that Bristol one is coming your way. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Pospiech" To: Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 12:00 PM Subject: HW: List of homegrown CD-R's > Hi folks > > It really makes me very sad to see how much money > HAWKFANS are paying (on EBAY) for crap CD-R's like Newcastle 73, Paris 77 > or countless compilations CD-R's with incomplete gigs > > It seems that someone only has to give an interesting title to such a CD-R > and the unsuspecting HAWKWIND fan is willing to pay a huge amount of money > to buy that shit! > > What a shame!!! > > Therefore I have decided to publish my (and Rainer Wanglers) private > colletion of homegrown HAWKWIND CD-R's. Most of them are COMPLETE gigs and > they have all multicoloured sleeves. And yes, most of them are made from > the best quality tapes I have. The qualities are much better than the known > CD-R's from EBAY sellers or such recordings like I WANT TO BE BESIDE THE > SEASIDE (Waiting For Nati) or A QUARK NIGHT IN PARIS (A Strange Night in > Paris). > > I (and Rainer) do not want to sell these CD-R's. We do not want to ripp the > band off. All we want is to swap these CD-R's with friendly HAWKWIND fans > to bulid up our collection and to show to you all that there are existing > far better qualities. > > OK, here is the list: > > TOWN HALL DATE TIME TITLE > Wolverhampton Civic Hall 26.07.1971 70 The Shores Of Paradize > Birmingham Kinetic Playground 06.12.1971 80 Kinetic Playground > Wolverhampton Civic Hall 10.01.1972 65 Paranoia Dreaming > Windsor Home Park 25.08.1973 70 Ode To A Time Flower > New York Academy Of Music 25.11.1973 100 Academy Of Music > Detroit Ford Auditorium 28.11.1973 110 Only Dreaming > Newcastle City Hall 11.12.1973 100 Comming Of Hawkwind > London Roundhouse 16.02.1975 90 The Awakening > Toulouse Comminges Hall 23.06.1975 60 On The Edge Of Time > Reading Festival 22.08.1975 110 Ode To A Crystal Set > Watchfield Festival 23.08.1975 85 The Day After Reading > London Imperial College 06.03.1976 80 Imperial College > Bristol Colston Hall 27.09.1976 80 Atomhenge 76 > Amsterdam Paradiso 11.03.1977 75 The Golden Dream > Paris Salle Pleyel 23.04.1977 80 A Strange Night In Paris > Camden Music Machine 10.06.1977 80 The Forge Of Vulcan 77 > Stonehenge Festival 21.06.1977 50 Stonehenge Free Festival > Newcastle City Hall 20.09.1977 85 > London Hammersmith Odeon 05.10.1977 80 Assassins Of Allah > New York (1st gig) Bottom Line 06.03.1978 50 High Rise 78 > New York (2nd gig) Bottom Line 06.03.1978 60 High Rise 78 > Leicester DeMontfort Hall 23.10.1978 110 > Plymouth Polytechnic 23.11.1978 60 The Time Of The Hawklords > Edinburgh Odeon 17.11.1979 90 Spirit Of Edinburgh > Folkestone Leas Cliff Hall 12.07.1980 80 Waiting For Nati > Liverpool Empire 11.10.1980 55 The Liverpool Lighthouse > Glasgow Apollo 21.10.1980 80 Gravitation > Doncaster Rotters 10.11.1980 70 Dangerous Visions > Glastonbury Festival 20.06.1981 70 Scriptures In The Sand > Barnstaple Snapper Festival 29.08.1981 80 Motorway City 81 > Castle Donnington Monsters Of Rock 21.08.1982 60 Donnington 82 > Glasgow Apollo 19.10.1982 90 Apollo Attack > Bristol Colston Hall 31.10.1982 110 Choose The Side That You'll Be On > Southampton Gaumont 01.11.1982 85 > Chippenham Goldiggers Club 15.11.1982 120 > Cardiff St.Davids Hall 16.03.1984 100 > Stonehenge Festival 20.06.1984 110 Stonehenge > Leicester Kiesa's Ballroom 20.11.1984 110 1984 > > Crystal Palace Anti Heroin Festival 24.08.1985 50 The Silver Surfer In The > Dust Of Time > Frankfurt Batschkapp 26.05.1987 80 Arrival In Frankfurt > Leeds Queens Hall 12.12.1987 80 Acid Daze II > London Hammersmith Odeon 22.04.1988 90 Mad Experiments With A Noble Gas > Birmingham Powerhouse 04.12.1988 90 Heads > Northampton Kamikazi 11.12.1988 90 The Kamikazi Chronicals > Manchester International 09.06.1989 80 The Damage Of Life > Treworgey Tree Fayre Festival 29.07.1989 85 Treworgey Tree Fayre > Brixton Academy 03.09.1989 95 Space Warriors > Washington 9:30 Club 26.09.1989 90 The Pulse > Somerville Johnny D's 27.09.1989 100 Welcome To Somerville > New York New Ritz 28.09.1989 110 > Chicago Lounge Axe 01.10.1989 80 Lounge Axe > Milwaukee Odd Rock Cafe 03.10.1989 85 Travellers Through Eternity > Minneapolis First Avenue 04.10.1989 90 Damnation Alley / Damnation Alley II > San Francisco Stone 07.10.1989 90 Eleven Years > Norwich University 01.12.1989 110 > Nottingham Lenton Lane Studios 25.01.1990 60 Live Legends > Washington 9:30 Club 02.12.1990 95 Century Of The Hawk > River Grove Thirsty Whale 08.12.1990 100 Face Of The Earth > San Francisco I - Beam 17.12.1990 95 Fun In San Francisco > M?nchen Nachtwerk 25.03.1991 120 Check Control > Rom Castello Club 04.04.1991 140 The Shade Gate > St.Catherines Hideaway 17.05.1991 80 Just Another Techno Gig > Minneapolis First Avenue 21.05.1991 80 First Avenue > Reading University 19.05.1992 75 Secret Tepee > Reading University 19.05.1992 100 Supersonic Spaceage Peacehead > Bristol University 13.11.1993 90 > K?ln Live Music Hall 02.12.1993 90 Live Music Hall > Brixton Fridge 14.04.1994 100 > K?ln Live Music Hall 13.11.1994 90 Space Is Their > Cleveland Agora 07.04.1995 80 Silicon Chip In My Head > Boulder Fox Theatre 23.04.1995 95 The A Files > Borehamwood Venue 14.10.1995 110 > Portsmouth Guild Hall 23.10.1995 110 Alternative Alien > Chicago Cubby Bear 24.08.1997 95 Close Encounters Of The Third Strike > Whitby Dracula Festival 27.09.1997 85 Dracfest 97 > Poole Arts Centre 03.10.1997 70 Masters Of Delirium > Liverpool Empire 23.10.1997 85 Alchemy > Garrettsville Strange Daze Festival 15.08.1998 70 We Are The Ones Who Are Left > Pentrich Coneygrey Showground 30.07.1999 85 > Milton Keynes Wavendon Stables 10.11.1999 115 On The Edge Of A Millennium > Sydney Studio 22 24.02.2000 25 Studio 22 > Auckland Powerstation 26.02.2000 110 > Ystalyfera Festival 21.07.2000 145 Dragonhead > Brixton Academy 21.10.2000 215 Hawkestra All Nite > Brixton Academy 21.10.2000 215 Brixton In A Box > London Astoria 29.12.2000 115 X-Mas Party > Croydon Fairfields Hall 25.03.2001 110 Spiral Galaxy > Leeds Irish Centre 03.04.2001 100 Irish Centre > > > cheers > Bernhard From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun May 27 09:42:50 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 09:42:50 -0400 Subject: List of homegrown CD-R's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ebay is supposted to NOT be selling CD-R's but they have to be told. If we have traders selling then 1) tell ebay. 2) contact the bidders and tell them about neo quark etc. Mike -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Bernhard Pospiech Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 6:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: List of homegrown CD-R's Hi folks It really makes me very sad to see how much money HAWKFANS are paying (on EBAY) for crap CD-R's like Newcastle 73, Paris 77 or countless compilations CD-R's with incomplete gigs It seems that someone only has to give an interesting title to such a CD-R and the unsuspecting HAWKWIND fan is willing to pay a huge amount of money to buy that shit! What a shame!!! Therefore I have decided to publish my (and Rainer Wanglers) private colletion of homegrown HAWKWIND CD-R's. Most of them are COMPLETE gigs and they have all multicoloured sleeves. And yes, most of them are made from the best quality tapes I have. The qualities are much better than the known CD-R's from EBAY sellers or such recordings like I WANT TO BE BESIDE THE SEASIDE (Waiting For Nati) or A QUARK NIGHT IN PARIS (A Strange Night in Paris). I (and Rainer) do not want to sell these CD-R's. We do not want to ripp the band off. All we want is to swap these CD-R's with friendly HAWKWIND fans to bulid up our collection and to show to you all that there are existing far better qualities. OK, here is the list: TOWN HALL DATE TIME TITLE Wolverhampton Civic Hall 26.07.1971 70 The Shores Of Paradize Birmingham Kinetic Playground 06.12.1971 80 Kinetic Playground Wolverhampton Civic Hall 10.01.1972 65 Paranoia Dreaming Windsor Home Park 25.08.1973 70 Ode To A Time Flower New York Academy Of Music 25.11.1973 100 Academy Of Music Detroit Ford Auditorium 28.11.1973 110 Only Dreaming Newcastle City Hall 11.12.1973 100 Comming Of Hawkwind London Roundhouse 16.02.1975 90 The Awakening Toulouse Comminges Hall 23.06.1975 60 On The Edge Of Time Reading Festival 22.08.1975 110 Ode To A Crystal Set Watchfield Festival 23.08.1975 85 The Day After Reading London Imperial College 06.03.1976 80 Imperial College Bristol Colston Hall 27.09.1976 80 Atomhenge 76 Amsterdam Paradiso 11.03.1977 75 The Golden Dream Paris Salle Pleyel 23.04.1977 80 A Strange Night In Paris Camden Music Machine 10.06.1977 80 The Forge Of Vulcan 77 Stonehenge Festival 21.06.1977 50 Stonehenge Free Festival Newcastle City Hall 20.09.1977 85 London Hammersmith Odeon 05.10.1977 80 Assassins Of Allah New York (1st gig) Bottom Line 06.03.1978 50 High Rise 78 New York (2nd gig) Bottom Line 06.03.1978 60 High Rise 78 Leicester DeMontfort Hall 23.10.1978 110 Plymouth Polytechnic 23.11.1978 60 The Time Of The Hawklords Edinburgh Odeon 17.11.1979 90 Spirit Of Edinburgh Folkestone Leas Cliff Hall 12.07.1980 80 Waiting For Nati Liverpool Empire 11.10.1980 55 The Liverpool Lighthouse Glasgow Apollo 21.10.1980 80 Gravitation Doncaster Rotters 10.11.1980 70 Dangerous Visions Glastonbury Festival 20.06.1981 70 Scriptures In The Sand Barnstaple Snapper Festival 29.08.1981 80 Motorway City 81 Castle Donnington Monsters Of Rock 21.08.1982 60 Donnington 82 Glasgow Apollo 19.10.1982 90 Apollo Attack Bristol Colston Hall 31.10.1982 110 Choose The Side That You'll Be On Southampton Gaumont 01.11.1982 85 Chippenham Goldiggers Club 15.11.1982 120 Cardiff St.Davids Hall 16.03.1984 100 Stonehenge Festival 20.06.1984 110 Stonehenge Leicester Kiesa's Ballroom 20.11.1984 110 1984 Crystal Palace Anti Heroin Festival 24.08.1985 50 The Silver Surfer In The Dust Of Time Frankfurt Batschkapp 26.05.1987 80 Arrival In Frankfurt Leeds Queens Hall 12.12.1987 80 Acid Daze II London Hammersmith Odeon 22.04.1988 90 Mad Experiments With A Noble Gas Birmingham Powerhouse 04.12.1988 90 Heads Northampton Kamikazi 11.12.1988 90 The Kamikazi Chronicals Manchester International 09.06.1989 80 The Damage Of Life Treworgey Tree Fayre Festival 29.07.1989 85 Treworgey Tree Fayre Brixton Academy 03.09.1989 95 Space Warriors Washington 9:30 Club 26.09.1989 90 The Pulse Somerville Johnny D's 27.09.1989 100 Welcome To Somerville New York New Ritz 28.09.1989 110 Chicago Lounge Axe 01.10.1989 80 Lounge Axe Milwaukee Odd Rock Cafe 03.10.1989 85 Travellers Through Eternity Minneapolis First Avenue 04.10.1989 90 Damnation Alley / Damnation Alley II San Francisco Stone 07.10.1989 90 Eleven Years Norwich University 01.12.1989 110 Nottingham Lenton Lane Studios 25.01.1990 60 Live Legends Washington 9:30 Club 02.12.1990 95 Century Of The Hawk River Grove Thirsty Whale 08.12.1990 100 Face Of The Earth San Francisco I - Beam 17.12.1990 95 Fun In San Francisco M?nchen Nachtwerk 25.03.1991 120 Check Control Rom Castello Club 04.04.1991 140 The Shade Gate St.Catherines Hideaway 17.05.1991 80 Just Another Techno Gig Minneapolis First Avenue 21.05.1991 80 First Avenue Reading University 19.05.1992 75 Secret Tepee Reading University 19.05.1992 100 Supersonic Spaceage Peacehead Bristol University 13.11.1993 90 K?ln Live Music Hall 02.12.1993 90 Live Music Hall Brixton Fridge 14.04.1994 100 K?ln Live Music Hall 13.11.1994 90 Space Is Their Cleveland Agora 07.04.1995 80 Silicon Chip In My Head Boulder Fox Theatre 23.04.1995 95 The A Files Borehamwood Venue 14.10.1995 110 Portsmouth Guild Hall 23.10.1995 110 Alternative Alien Chicago Cubby Bear 24.08.1997 95 Close Encounters Of The Third Strike Whitby Dracula Festival 27.09.1997 85 Dracfest 97 Poole Arts Centre 03.10.1997 70 Masters Of Delirium Liverpool Empire 23.10.1997 85 Alchemy Garrettsville Strange Daze Festival 15.08.1998 70 We Are The Ones Who Are Left Pentrich Coneygrey Showground 30.07.1999 85 Milton Keynes Wavendon Stables 10.11.1999 115 On The Edge Of A Millennium Sydney Studio 22 24.02.2000 25 Studio 22 Auckland Powerstation 26.02.2000 110 Ystalyfera Festival 21.07.2000 145 Dragonhead Brixton Academy 21.10.2000 215 Hawkestra All Nite Brixton Academy 21.10.2000 215 Brixton In A Box London Astoria 29.12.2000 115 X-Mas Party Croydon Fairfields Hall 25.03.2001 110 Spiral Galaxy Leeds Irish Centre 03.04.2001 100 Irish Centre cheers Bernhard From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Sun May 27 09:49:56 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 08:49:56 -0500 Subject: calvert question Message-ID: HI, Can anyone tell me if the tracks on HAWKWIND CONNECTION by Robert and Wagner are the same as the Distance between us version? Or are the demos actual demos of those tracks? THANKS STEPHE From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sun May 27 10:45:04 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:45:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: Magazine Message-ID: I've read a lot about this band but AFAIK never heard anything by them. They were a late 70s/early 80s group that included Howard Devoto and John McGeoch, and supposedly were something pretty special, but of course the mainstream music press cannot be trusted on such things... Anyway the point of this post is that my local CD emporium has the triple CD Magazine retrospective called "Maybe It's Right To Be Nervous Now" going for just 10 quid, and this seems like a remarkable bargain to me, as from what I've read I suspect I might really like this band, but OTOH a triple CD box-set is a bit of a biggie for a speculative punt on a band you haven't heard... so can anyone fill me in a bit on this band and their sound? The kind of reference points I had were that they might be a sort of UK equivalent of Pere Ubu or early Talking Heads. If in fact they were a power-pop outfit like the Buzzcocks can someone warn me please... -- Nick Medford From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Sun May 27 12:44:23 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:44:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: Magazine Message-ID: Hi Nick Magazine 3-cd for a tenner is definitely worth it. They are not really Buzzcocks-like, despite that being where Howard Devoto came from. They came to public attention with Shot By Both Sides which is an atypical piece of new wave blanga. Most of their stuff is new-wave oriented but is more keyboard- than guitar-dominated. They sound a little bit like The Tubes, or pre-Midge Ure Ultravox...musically they have the same breadth and depth as the best Bowie (Heroes era), but the sound is meatier than anything Bowie did. There must be some mp3's you can listen to....I don't have any url's to hand since I am a long way from home right now...or muzd I send you one anyway lol... Steve From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun May 27 13:30:39 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:30:39 EDT Subject: OFF: Magazine Message-ID: In a message dated 5/27/01 10:46:07 AM, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: << The kind of reference points I had were that they might be a sort of UK equivalent of Pere Ubu or early Talking Heads. If in fact they were a power-pop outfit like the Buzzcocks can someone warn me please... -- >> ========= well, y'know, devoto left the buzzcocks... (which aint to say magazine sounded at all like the buzzcocks!) no talking heads equvalence. at all. ...your liking of magazine might hinge upon your liking of mr. devoto's voice; try to get a taste before trying to sit through 3cd's worth... "<>" owned 45's 'shot by both sides' and 'rhythm of cruelty' and wondered why they bothered to make crappy lp versions of same. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Sun May 27 15:20:24 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:20:24 -0400 Subject: HW: King and Powell Message-ID: On Sat, 26 May 2001 10:11:46 +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >There was two full kits - some numbers both Alan and Simon would play on >(Magnu/Time for Sale), On the midsection of "Magnu" (studio version), it sounds like one drumkit and one set of congas ... is this correct? And if so, who plays kit and who plays the hand percussion? >You really have to listen to Warriors/Astounding/Live '76/Watchfield to get >a feel for their different styles. The 'Watchfield' set would be a good place to start, since that's exclusively Alan (both Simons were missing that day). As far as tapes of 'Warrior' live ... there seems to be a gap in the record (i.e. Berhnard's list) between 2/75 (the Roundhouse gig, BEFORE any off the 'Warrior' tracks were being performed) and the summer festivals, by which time Rudolph had already replaced Lemmy. Nothing from either leg of the ill-fated North American tour :^(. (correct me if I'm wrong!) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun May 27 17:14:56 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 22:14:56 +0100 Subject: (Al Mathews) Re: HW: King and Powell: Mathews? Message-ID: Al Mathews - an American soul singer who used to support HW. I have a very tasty poster HW/Pink Fairies/ Al Mathews etc from 1974? Al is now an actor, I think he played an American General in film with Arnie or Bruce Willis -something like that. Dave -----Original Message----- From: dhuggins To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 26 May 2001 19:53 Subject: Re: HW: King and Powell: Mathews? Lemme ask the question, Who is Matthews? A roadie that played occasionally? Wouldn't think he was a "local guest", Amsterdam and Chicago are geographically (and other ways) light years apart. Dave >BR = Brock >KI = King >PO = Powell >CA = Calvert >HO = House >MT = Matthews >TU = Turner >DE = Dettmar >LE = Lemmy >RU = Rudolph > > >TOWN: HALL: DATE: DAY: LINE-UP: >Sindelfingen Messehalle 09.06.1974 Sun BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >K?ln Uni 10.06.1974 Mon BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >Bonn Underground 11.06.1974 Tue BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >Mailand Festival 16.06.1974 Sun BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >Marrum Festival 20.06.1974 Thu BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >Groningen Cultureel Centrum 21.06.1974 Fri >BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >Arnheim Stokvishal 22.06.1974 Sat BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO >Den Haag Congresgebouw 24.06.1974 Mon BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO >Amsterdam Concertgebouw 25.06.1974 Tue BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO/MT >Rotterdam Doelen 26.06.1974 Wed BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO >Paris Olympia 02.07.1974 Tue BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO >Harlow Park Festival 10.08.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO/MO/CA >Bristol Festival 11.08.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Windsor Home Park 28.08.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Detroit Ford Auditorium 06.09.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Chicago Auditorium Theatre 07.09.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO/MT >Cleveland Allen Theatre 08.09.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Madison 11.09.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Cincinnati 13.09.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Dayton 14.09.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Aurora 19.09.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Milwaukee Auditorium 20.09.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Hammond Civic Center 21.09.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >St.Louis Auditorium 15.10.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Memphis 16.10.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Kansas City Memorial Hall 18.10.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Lincoln 19.10.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Oklahoma City 20.10.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Wichita Convention Hall 22.10.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Akron University 26.10.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Chicago Auditorium Theatre 28.10.1974 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Chicago Palace 30.10.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Detroit Theatre 31.10.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >New York Academy Of Music 02.11.1974 Sat >BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Belgien 16.11.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Brussels University 17.11.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Belgien 18.11.1974 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Paris Olympia 23.11.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Dijon Congress Palace 24.11.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Colmar 25.11.1974 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Poitiers Arena 26.11.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Lyon Palais D'Hiver 27.11.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Grenoble Sports Hall 28.11.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Marseille Salle Vallier 29.11.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Tunbridge Wells Assembly Halls 10.12.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Newcastle City Hall 12.12.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Glasgow Apollo 13.12.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Manchester Palace Theatre 14.12.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Birmingham Odeon 15.12.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Southend Kursal 21.12.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Cardiff Capitol 07.01.1975 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Wolverhampton Civic Hall 08.01.1975 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Birmingham Odeon 10.01.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Bournemouth Winter Gardens 11.01.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Paignton Festival Theatre 12.01.1975 Sun >BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Watford Town Hall 13.01.1975 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Southampton Gaumont 14.01.1975 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Liverpool Stadium 18.01.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Oxford New Theatre 19.01.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Derby Kings Hall 23.01.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Clackton Town Hall 24.01.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Bracknell Sports Centre 25.01.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Leicester DeMontfort Hall 30.01.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Lancaster University 31.01.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Leeds University 01.02.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Coventry Theatre 02.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Malvern Winter Gardens 06.02.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >London Eastham 07.02.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Cambridge Corn Exchange 08.02.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >London Hammersmith Odeon 09.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >London Hammersmith Odeon 10.02.1975 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Bradford St.Georges Hall 12.02.1975 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Halifax Civic Hall 13.02.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Chatham Central Hall 15.02.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >London Roundhouse 16.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Guildford Civic Hall 23.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Worthing Assembly Hall 24.02.1975 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Yeovil Johnson Hall 12.04.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Dunstable Queensway Hall 13.04.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >St.Louis Auditorium 29.04.1975 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Chicago Arie Crown 07.05.1975 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Hammond Civic Center 09.05.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Detroit Ford Auditorium 10.05.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Cleveland Allen Theatre 16.05.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Toronto Convocation Hall 18.05.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO >Indianapolis Rivoli Theatre 22.05.1975 Thu BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Milwaukee Uptown Theatre 23.05.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Hamburg Markthalle 30.05.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Mainz Elzer Hof 01.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Saarbr?cken University 04.06.1975 Wed BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Bensberg S?gem?hle 05.06.1975 Thu BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Duisburg Audimax 06.06.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Siegen Stadtb?hne 07.06.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Bonn Stadthalle 08.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >M?nchen Theater Brienenstra?e 10.06.1975 Tue BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Frick Festival 15.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Brussels Janson University 18.06.1975 Wed >BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Bordeaux Sports Palace 19.06.1975 Thu BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Poitiers Arena 20.06.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Nantes Exhibition Hall 21.06.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Paris Bastille 22.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Toulouse Comminges Hall 23.06.1975 Mon BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Metz Sport Palace 25.06.1975 Wed BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Dijon Congress Palace 27.06.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Nimes Arena 28.06.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Newcastle Mayfair 25.07.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Liverpool Stadium 26.07.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Torquay Town Hall 01.08.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Truro Plaza 04.08.1975 Mon BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Sunderland City Hall 08.08.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Edinburgh Usher Hall 09.08.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Glasgow Apollo 10.08.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO >Reading Festival 22.08.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO/CA/MT >Watchfield Festival 23.08.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO >Halden Festival 30.08.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Lund Olympen 04.09.1975 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Cambrai Festival 07.09.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Reims Opera 23.09.1975 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Maastricht Staargebouw 26.09.1975 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Venlo Concertgebouw 27.09.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Assen De Kolk 28.09.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >L?neburg 01.10.1975 Wed BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Stuttgart Gustav Siegle Haus 05.10.1975 Sun >BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO >Birmingham Bingly Hall 12.12.1975 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Southend Kursal 13.12.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Reading Top Rank 14.12.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Cardiff Top Rank 16.12.1975 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Uxbridge Brunel University 17.12.1975 Wed >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Ipswich Gaumont 18.12.1975 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Norwich St.Andrews Hall 19.12.1975 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Edmonton Picketts Lock 20.12.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Southampton Top Rank 21.12.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Salford University 05.03.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >London Imperial College 06.03.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Malvern Winter Gardens 09.03.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Bournemouth Winter Gardens 12.03.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Sheffield University 13.03.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Preston Guild Hall 14.03.1976 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Barnstaple Queensway Hall 10.07.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Cardiff Castle 24.07.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Sheffield City Hall 15.09.1976 Wed BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Birmingham Odeon 16.09.1976 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Liverpool Empire 17.09.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Manchester Palace Theatre 18.09.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Newcastle City Hall 19.09.1976 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Edinburgh Usher Hall 20.09.1976 Mon BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Glasgow Apollo 21.09.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Aberdeen Capitol 22.09.1976 Wed BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Oxford New Theatre 25.09.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Cardiff Capitol 26.09.1976 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Bristol Colston Hall 27.09.1976 Mon BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Guildford Civic Hall 28.09.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Dunstable Queensway Hall 30.09.1976 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Southampton Gaumont 01.10.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Ipswich Gaumont 02.10.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >Leicester DeMontfort Hall 04.10.1976 Mon BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO >London Hammersmith Odeon 05.10.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > > >>How did they split it live? - two full kits and straight duplication? > >Yes, with two full kits > > >Hope that helps >Bernhard From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Sun May 27 16:30:54 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 16:30:54 -0400 Subject: where oh where??! Message-ID: Best single website for HW sound samples would be Steve Litchfield's excellent Simon King site: http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ Sorry, don't know where to go for Ramones & Fairies Moonglum On Sat, 26 May 2001 00:06:05 +0100, Layla Thompson wrote: >I am trying to convert a friend of mine to the ways of the Hawk. > > >I don't spend much time on the net..... so, can anyone tell me where I can find some tunes for him to listen to on the net?? > > > Also, some Ramones and Fairies would come in handy..... if you can help???? > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun May 27 18:48:18 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 16:48:18 -0600 Subject: List of homegrown CD-R's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Ebay is supposted to NOT be selling CD-R's but they have to be told". isn't that kind of like calling the police on someone selling overpriced smoke?? even if it was overpriced, it sure tasted sweet, once you picked out all the seeds, during the dry spell????? (I think most bidders KNOW they are bidding on boots...they want it anyway, as they, like me, don't have patience, etc., to do CDR's....) another Mike, who still wants to stay friend to this Mike, but likes seeing freedom grow greener, taller, fuller, like a Redwood forest...... m now if you wanted to send the links to Dave, Richard, Jerry, Alan, etc....(KRIS) that IN MY opinion, would be a way..... let THEM handle it????? maybe THEY report it to EBAY "scotland yard" From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sun May 27 18:38:55 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 23:38:55 +0100 Subject: HW: King and Powell Message-ID: Doug (In the Jung), I'm afraid you're right. It's like a whole chapter of history has gone missing! Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Pearson To: Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:20 PM Subject: Re: HW: King and Powell > On Sat, 26 May 2001 10:11:46 +0100, Captain Bl at ck > wrote: > >There was two full kits - some numbers both Alan and Simon would play on > >(Magnu/Time for Sale), > > On the midsection of "Magnu" (studio version), it sounds like one drumkit > and one set of congas ... is this correct? And if so, who plays kit and > who plays the hand percussion? > > >You really have to listen to Warriors/Astounding/Live '76/Watchfield to get > >a feel for their different styles. > > The 'Watchfield' set would be a good place to start, since that's > exclusively Alan (both Simons were missing that day). > > As far as tapes of 'Warrior' live ... there seems to be a gap in the record > (i.e. Berhnard's list) between 2/75 (the Roundhouse gig, BEFORE any off > the 'Warrior' tracks were being performed) and the summer festivals, by > which time Rudolph had already replaced Lemmy. Nothing from either leg of > the ill-fated North American tour :^(. (correct me if I'm wrong!) > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sun May 27 18:37:03 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 23:37:03 +0100 Subject: HW: List of homegrown CD-R's Message-ID: Hi Bernhard, Excellent stuff. What are you hoping to swap copies of them for? I thought you had pretty much every tape going. Or is it other CD-Rs of tapes you're after? Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernhard Pospiech To: Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 11:00 AM Subject: HW: List of homegrown CD-R's Hi folks It really makes me very sad to see how much money HAWKFANS are paying (on EBAY) for crap CD-R's like Newcastle 73, Paris 77 or countless compilations CD-R's with incomplete gigs It seems that someone only has to give an interesting title to such a CD-R and the unsuspecting HAWKWIND fan is willing to pay a huge amount of money to buy that shit! What a shame!!! Therefore I have decided to publish my (and Rainer Wanglers) private colletion of homegrown HAWKWIND CD-R's. Most of them are COMPLETE gigs and they have all multicoloured sleeves. And yes, most of them are made from the best quality tapes I have. The qualities are much better than the known CD-R's from EBAY sellers or such recordings like I WANT TO BE BESIDE THE SEASIDE (Waiting For Nati) or A QUARK NIGHT IN PARIS (A Strange Night in Paris). I (and Rainer) do not want to sell these CD-R's. We do not want to ripp the band off. All we want is to swap these CD-R's with friendly HAWKWIND fans to bulid up our collection and to show to you all that there are existing far better qualities. OK, here is the list: TOWN HALL DATE TIME TITLE Wolverhampton Civic Hall 26.07.1971 70 The Shores Of Paradize Birmingham Kinetic Playground 06.12.1971 80 Kinetic Playground Wolverhampton Civic Hall 10.01.1972 65 Paranoia Dreaming Windsor Home Park 25.08.1973 70 Ode To A Time Flower New York Academy Of Music 25.11.1973 100 Academy Of Music Detroit Ford Auditorium 28.11.1973 110 Only Dreaming Newcastle City Hall 11.12.1973 100 Comming Of Hawkwind London Roundhouse 16.02.1975 90 The Awakening Toulouse Comminges Hall 23.06.1975 60 On The Edge Of Time Reading Festival 22.08.1975 110 Ode To A Crystal Set Watchfield Festival 23.08.1975 85 The Day After Reading London Imperial College 06.03.1976 80 Imperial College Bristol Colston Hall 27.09.1976 80 Atomhenge 76 Amsterdam Paradiso 11.03.1977 75 The Golden Dream Paris Salle Pleyel 23.04.1977 80 A Strange Night In Paris Camden Music Machine 10.06.1977 80 The Forge Of Vulcan 77 Stonehenge Festival 21.06.1977 50 Stonehenge Free Festival Newcastle City Hall 20.09.1977 85 London Hammersmith Odeon 05.10.1977 80 Assassins Of Allah New York (1st gig) Bottom Line 06.03.1978 50 High Rise 78 New York (2nd gig) Bottom Line 06.03.1978 60 High Rise 78 Leicester DeMontfort Hall 23.10.1978 110 Plymouth Polytechnic 23.11.1978 60 The Time Of The Hawklords Edinburgh Odeon 17.11.1979 90 Spirit Of Edinburgh Folkestone Leas Cliff Hall 12.07.1980 80 Waiting For Nati Liverpool Empire 11.10.1980 55 The Liverpool Lighthouse Glasgow Apollo 21.10.1980 80 Gravitation Doncaster Rotters 10.11.1980 70 Dangerous Visions Glastonbury Festival 20.06.1981 70 Scriptures In The Sand Barnstaple Snapper Festival 29.08.1981 80 Motorway City 81 Castle Donnington Monsters Of Rock 21.08.1982 60 Donnington 82 Glasgow Apollo 19.10.1982 90 Apollo Attack Bristol Colston Hall 31.10.1982 110 Choose The Side That You'll Be On Southampton Gaumont 01.11.1982 85 Chippenham Goldiggers Club 15.11.1982 120 Cardiff St.Davids Hall 16.03.1984 100 Stonehenge Festival 20.06.1984 110 Stonehenge Leicester Kiesa's Ballroom 20.11.1984 110 1984 Crystal Palace Anti Heroin Festival 24.08.1985 50 The Silver Surfer In The Dust Of Time Frankfurt Batschkapp 26.05.1987 80 Arrival In Frankfurt Leeds Queens Hall 12.12.1987 80 Acid Daze II London Hammersmith Odeon 22.04.1988 90 Mad Experiments With A Noble Gas Birmingham Powerhouse 04.12.1988 90 Heads Northampton Kamikazi 11.12.1988 90 The Kamikazi Chronicals Manchester International 09.06.1989 80 The Damage Of Life Treworgey Tree Fayre Festival 29.07.1989 85 Treworgey Tree Fayre Brixton Academy 03.09.1989 95 Space Warriors Washington 9:30 Club 26.09.1989 90 The Pulse Somerville Johnny D's 27.09.1989 100 Welcome To Somerville New York New Ritz 28.09.1989 110 Chicago Lounge Axe 01.10.1989 80 Lounge Axe Milwaukee Odd Rock Cafe 03.10.1989 85 Travellers Through Eternity Minneapolis First Avenue 04.10.1989 90 Damnation Alley / Damnation Alley II San Francisco Stone 07.10.1989 90 Eleven Years Norwich University 01.12.1989 110 Nottingham Lenton Lane Studios 25.01.1990 60 Live Legends Washington 9:30 Club 02.12.1990 95 Century Of The Hawk River Grove Thirsty Whale 08.12.1990 100 Face Of The Earth San Francisco I - Beam 17.12.1990 95 Fun In San Francisco M?nchen Nachtwerk 25.03.1991 120 Check Control Rom Castello Club 04.04.1991 140 The Shade Gate St.Catherines Hideaway 17.05.1991 80 Just Another Techno Gig Minneapolis First Avenue 21.05.1991 80 First Avenue Reading University 19.05.1992 75 Secret Tepee Reading University 19.05.1992 100 Supersonic Spaceage Peacehead Bristol University 13.11.1993 90 K?ln Live Music Hall 02.12.1993 90 Live Music Hall Brixton Fridge 14.04.1994 100 K?ln Live Music Hall 13.11.1994 90 Space Is Their Cleveland Agora 07.04.1995 80 Silicon Chip In My Head Boulder Fox Theatre 23.04.1995 95 The A Files Borehamwood Venue 14.10.1995 110 Portsmouth Guild Hall 23.10.1995 110 Alternative Alien Chicago Cubby Bear 24.08.1997 95 Close Encounters Of The Third Strike Whitby Dracula Festival 27.09.1997 85 Dracfest 97 Poole Arts Centre 03.10.1997 70 Masters Of Delirium Liverpool Empire 23.10.1997 85 Alchemy Garrettsville Strange Daze Festival 15.08.1998 70 We Are The Ones Who Are Left Pentrich Coneygrey Showground 30.07.1999 85 Milton Keynes Wavendon Stables 10.11.1999 115 On The Edge Of A Millennium Sydney Studio 22 24.02.2000 25 Studio 22 Auckland Powerstation 26.02.2000 110 Ystalyfera Festival 21.07.2000 145 Dragonhead Brixton Academy 21.10.2000 215 Hawkestra All Nite Brixton Academy 21.10.2000 215 Brixton In A Box London Astoria 29.12.2000 115 X-Mas Party Croydon Fairfields Hall 25.03.2001 110 Spiral Galaxy Leeds Irish Centre 03.04.2001 100 Irish Centre cheers Bernhard From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun May 27 19:15:55 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 00:15:55 +0100 Subject: HW - off topic Message-ID: No-one panic if I don't respond for a few days - all is well, just a tad busy. Andy G (CD Services) From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Mon May 28 01:19:06 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 01:19:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: SLOTERDIJK: acoustic set, "Ratskeller", Doylestown, PA, 5/27 Message-ID: Don't Fear The Reaper Hassan I Sahba ( Assassins of Allah)> Uranium Zone Astronomy www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon May 28 07:09:27 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:09:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son In-Reply-To: <011101c0d1b8$2ea31040$1951193e@bedroomt> Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, colm mcwilliams wrote: > I have never been that impressed with danny thompsons style of drumming when > he was in hawkwind. Strangley though when i saw him drum at the hawkestra > gig for both hawkwind and bedouin i thought he was pretty good! I think there are two things going on here, the first being that he has just got a lot better (and got a better kit maybe? He does need one built to his size really... ) over the years, and the second that Bedouin just goes faster. Danny's variation isn't huge but when you're going at that speed what he does do by way of it comes across much more effectively because the attack of it is that much greater. That's how it seems to me anyway. He's still not as bad as Martin Griffin for lack of inspiration though; okay his drumming on _Xenon Codex_ is nothing special but then the production of it makes it so flat that one wouldn't care even if it were. But compare it to Martin on _Choose Your Masques_, and... well, come back Danny all is forgiven, you know? Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon May 28 07:10:51 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:10:51 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <200104302252.SAA17917@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Mr. Dibs wrote: > Cheers mate, I knew I'd got my facts twisted round somewhere. Did he play > on Xitintoday? Certainly on Android Anderson is there credited, although so are so many people that I guess it can't have been on all tracks or even necessarily any of the ones that made it onto the album. I'd love the session sheets from those recordings... Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon May 28 08:05:38 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 08:05:38 EDT Subject: OFF! Not Music!// "yeah, i got yer 'Banzai' right here, pal..." Message-ID: re: Memorial Day '01 personally, i'm beyond disgusted that there sould be [in effect] a DISNEY MOVIE about Pearl Harbor. do you believe this movie exists for _any_ reason other than to be an exercise in state-of-the-art FX? dont kid yourself; it's another shot at the 'Titanic' big-bucks effect. [film-wise] nothing more. === but really, why stop there? how about Dresden, Auschwitz, Hiroshima**? == i'm sorry, i hate this movie a lot on general principal. **offended enough yet? i can see the promo ad for such a ghastly film, with the film's two tragically doomed lovers atomically blasted into silhouette against a wall....... is that _romantic_ or what? well, dont thank me, thank DISNEY. ===== i'd add 'no disrespect intended' but talk to DISNEY about what is 'respect' and what isnt. "<>" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon May 28 10:35:16 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Rat On A Stick) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:05:16 +0930 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: Hey Hawkpersons Which Hawkwind song(s) reeled you in, captured your imagination and turned you on to the whole trip??? and why? For me I think it was: The Fifth Second of Forever & Dust Of Time on the Levitation album because of the beautiful acoustic section with the sfx and those trippy synthi swirly sounds that so gracefully changed to an excellent space rock number then back to acoustic then back to space rock etc Incredible From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon May 28 10:58:04 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:58:04 +0800 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: Hi there For me it was the part on the Roadhawks compilation album, where Winds of Change segues into The Golden Void. I really liked the bid where the mellotron and everything went quiet, then you were suddenly hit with that first note on The Golden Void. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rat On A Stick" To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:35 PM Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind > Hey Hawkpersons > > Which Hawkwind song(s) reeled you in, captured your imagination and turned > you on to the whole trip??? and why? > > For me I think it was: The Fifth Second of Forever & Dust Of Time on the > Levitation album > > because of the beautiful acoustic section with the sfx and those trippy > synthi swirly sounds that so gracefully changed to an excellent space rock > number > then back to acoustic then back to space rock etc > > Incredible > From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Mon May 28 11:07:09 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:07:09 -0400 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <00c901c0e783$6af8dbc0$55cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: For me it was probably Days of the underground for the wicked lyrics; and Freefall for the wicked bass line. the other other Mike -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Rat On A Stick Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:35 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Hey Hawkpersons Which Hawkwind song(s) reeled you in, captured your imagination and turned you on to the whole trip??? and why? For me I think it was: The Fifth Second of Forever & Dust Of Time on the Levitation album because of the beautiful acoustic section with the sfx and those trippy synthi swirly sounds that so gracefully changed to an excellent space rock number then back to acoustic then back to space rock etc Incredible From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon May 28 05:27:47 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:27:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: Magazine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Nick Medford writes >I've read a lot about this band but AFAIK never heard anything by them. >They were a late 70s/early 80s group that included Howard Devoto and John >McGeoch, and supposedly were something pretty special, but of course the >mainstream music press cannot be trusted on such things... > >Anyway the point of this post is that my local CD emporium has the triple >CD Magazine retrospective called "Maybe It's Right To Be Nervous Now" >going for just 10 quid, and this seems like a remarkable bargain to me, as >from what I've read I suspect I might really like this band, but OTOH a >triple CD box-set is a bit of a biggie for a speculative punt on a band you >haven't heard... so can anyone fill me in a bit on this band and their sound? >The kind of reference points I had were that they might be a sort of UK >equivalent of Pere Ubu or early Talking Heads. If in fact they were a >power-pop outfit like the Buzzcocks can someone warn me please... >-- >Nick Medford I haven't bought "Maybe It's Right", but I've got everything else by Magazine. I think they're great. Buy it. If you don't like it, I'll buy it off you. You can't lose, eh? Do bear in mind it's like outtakes, live versions etc. Real Life is their best LP, a real fave which gets played regularly even after twenty-plus years, followed by Secondhand Daylight. Real Life is one of two or three albums that I have had five or six copies of over the years, because it just gets played to death. Magnificent in places. "The Light Pours Out Of Me" - wow. They ain't like Buzzcocks, (who are also great BTW, and still produce fine spiky stuff!) They do have punk sensibilities, but were clearly very prog influenced too. Longer songs, mood pieces, keyboard solos etc. Another thing that marked them out was the lyrics, which were literate in the main. Devoto now works on and off with Apollo 440, who covered Don't Fear The Reaper. (BOC-L content here!) I honestly couldn't say how they would sound these days, to modern ears. Not fantastic, I suspect, but at the time they were a bit of revelation to me, and they still work for me. They were my favourite band, one month in 1978. -- Jon NP Punishment of Luxury - Puppet Life (Anyone got the LP this came off?) From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Mon May 28 13:12:42 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moon Glum) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:12:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: Magazine Message-ID: On Mon, 28 May 2001 10:27:47 +0100, Jon Browne wrote: >NP Punishment of Luxury - Puppet Life (Anyone got the LP this came off?) ------------------------- Only on tape, but it's fantastic. I did think of comparing Magazine to Punilux but likening a semi-obscure band to one that is totally obscure doesn't work! I think Punilux made 2 albums & that one (their first) was the only one that was any good. It's called The Laughing Academy and seems to have been re-released on CD in 96 or 97, but no longer available. Moonglum From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon May 28 14:46:42 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:46:42 EDT Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Sarong Hawkwind Message-ID: In a message dated 5/28/01 10:32:11 AM, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: << Which Hawkwind song(s) reeled you in, captured your imagination and turned you on ??? and why? >> ==== summer '72: heard "master of the universe", on KMET-FM, LA... ...which had it 'in rotation' for a little while. in retrospect, much later,i figure it must've been the repetition, the vocal fx, and that 'phase' part in the middle .... {which they 'out-did' in 'lord of light'} ...about 29 years ago. yeesh -_- "<>" From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Mon May 28 14:55:25 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:55:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: Magazine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is this the group that had a song called "What about the weather" back in the early 80's? Curiously Mike From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon May 28 16:12:42 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:12:42 -0000 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: >From: "Mich at el B" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors >Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:21:04 +0930 > >I have an vinyl copy of The Warrior album. Where does one find the hair if >he was looking and what does it mean? > >Mb > >----- Original Message ----- >From: mike c +klkirk64 at hotmail.com >To: >Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:52 AM >Subject: Re: HW:red shift + interstellar chaos > > > > have copies of both of these (if I wasn't clear....possibly only 1 or 2 > > red-shift) > > > > where's hairless warrior....???? > >kering thort kirk > > > > "curse and damn you, all you fall by the hands of the sinner"... > >time = ss/pc ratio > > (but I'll lift you out of the pit when the Warrior is delivered) > >i have 21 albums and need it on cd lost vinal > > mike c, who is JOKING ....(but not about bainbridge stash) i have his so fucked up every where i go keith p.s. that kid _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon May 28 17:46:54 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:46:54 -0600 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: have copies of both of these (if I wasn't clear....possibly only 1 or 2 red-shift) where's hairless warrior....???? kering thort kirk "curse and damn you, all you fall by the hands of the sinner"... time = ss/pc ratio (but I'll lift you out of the pit when the Warrior is delivered) i have 21 albums and need it on cd lost vinal mike c, who is JOKING ....(but not about bainbridge stash) i have his so fucked up every where i go keith p.s. that kid ******************************************************************************** I confess.....this is the strangest post I have ever seen.. I thought I was weird. m no hairless warrior to trade for CD then??? From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon May 28 17:04:17 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:04:17 -0400 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question Message-ID: Hello, >HI, Can anyone tell me if the tracks on HAWKWIND CONNECTION by Robert and >Wagner are the same as the Distance between us version? Or are the demos >actual demos of those tracks? THANKS STEPHE Don't have the discs with me so I'm going from memory here (and adawsons worldwide discog ) but as I recall Hawkwind Connection claims to be demos but actually includes a fair amount of released material as follows - Robert Calvert: Greenfly & Hornets are not demo but single versions and are available as extra tracks on either Hype (See For Miles CD) or Freq Revisited (Cleopatra CD), forget which. Revenge/F&F/Bugatti/Isadora are demos available on the Revenge cassette and on CD as Revenge (Voiceprint). Messenger/Solstice/Stranger/Steppenwolf sound to me to be exactly the same versions as appear on the Distances Between Us CD reissue - Messenger and Solstice are tracked as 2 separate trax on the DBU CD though they are a continuous piece of music and appear as 1 track here (presumably taken from the original vinyl). Michael Moorcock: Starcruiser/DodgemDude was a single but it appears as extra tracks on the Griffin reissue of New Worlds Fair. Auschwitz is a demo that appeared only on The Brothel in Rosenstrasse tape (which I don't have but I assume this is the same version). BrothelInRS apppeared on the BrothelInRS Flicknife single and the BrothelInRS tape as did Time Centre which also appeared on Friends & Relations pt. 1. Brothel was also a bonus track on the Griffin reissue of New Worlds Fair. Good Girl appeared on the BrothelInRS tape and on Friends & Relations pt. 1. I don't know if the remaining MM tracks have appeared elsewhere. Let me know where I made any mistakes (and I'm sure I have), Stephan From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon May 28 18:16:11 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:16:11 -0600 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Sarong Hawkwind In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "about 29 years ago. yeesh" gotta be worth a couple 'cuties', huh Larry! hats off to your seniority! must be nice to be 'on board' that long.... m From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon May 28 17:26:01 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:26:01 -0000 Subject: OFF: Magazine Message-ID: yeah i heard of them too - they're crap >From: Jon Browne >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: OFF: Magazine >Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:27:47 +0100 > >In article , Nick Medford > writes > >I've read a lot about this band but AFAIK never heard anything by them. > >They were a late 70s/early 80s group that included Howard Devoto and John > >McGeoch, and supposedly were something pretty special, but of course the > >mainstream music press cannot be trusted on such things... > > > >Anyway the point of this post is that my local CD emporium has the triple > >CD Magazine retrospective called "Maybe It's Right To Be Nervous Now" > >going for just 10 quid, and this seems like a remarkable bargain to me, >as > >from what I've read I suspect I might really like this band, but OTOH a > >triple CD box-set is a bit of a biggie for a speculative punt on a band >you > >haven't heard... so can anyone fill me in a bit on this band and their >sound? > >The kind of reference points I had were that they might be a sort of UK > >equivalent of Pere Ubu or early Talking Heads. If in fact they were a > >power-pop outfit like the Buzzcocks can someone warn me please... > >-- > >Nick Medford > > >I haven't bought "Maybe It's Right", but I've got everything else by >Magazine. I think they're great. Buy it. If you don't like it, I'll buy >it off you. You can't lose, eh? Do bear in mind it's like outtakes, >live versions etc. > >Real Life is their best LP, a real fave which gets played regularly even >after twenty-plus years, followed by Secondhand Daylight. Real Life is >one of two or three albums that I have had five or six copies of over >the years, because it just gets played to death. Magnificent in places. >"The Light Pours Out Of Me" - wow. > >They ain't like Buzzcocks, (who are also great BTW, and still produce >fine spiky stuff!) They do have punk sensibilities, but were clearly >very prog influenced too. Longer songs, mood pieces, keyboard solos etc. >Another thing that marked them out was the lyrics, which were literate >in the main. Devoto now works on and off with Apollo 440, who covered >Don't Fear The Reaper. (BOC-L content here!) > >I honestly couldn't say how they would sound these days, to modern ears. >Not fantastic, I suspect, but at the time they were a bit of revelation >to me, and they still work for me. They were my favourite band, one >month in 1978. >-- >Jon >NP Punishment of Luxury - Puppet Life (Anyone got the LP this came off?) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon May 28 17:28:57 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:28:57 -0000 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: yeah you got both and they're both crap >From: mike c >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors >Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:46:54 -0600 > > have copies of both of these (if I wasn't clear....possibly only 1 or 2 >red-shift) > where's hairless warrior....???? >kering thort kirk > > "curse and damn you, all you fall by the hands of the sinner"... >time = ss/pc ratio > (but I'll lift you out of the pit when the Warrior is delivered) >i have 21 albums and need it on cd lost vinal > mike c, who is JOKING ....(but not about bainbridge stash) >i have his so fucked up every where i go keith p.s. that kid > >******************************************************************************** >I confess.....this is the strangest post I have ever seen.. > >I thought I was weird. > >m > >no hairless warrior to trade for CD then??? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon May 28 14:27:20 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:27:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Magazine, Farflung In-Reply-To: <200105271644.MAA05804@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200105271644.MAA05804 at listserv.spc.edu>, Moonglum writes >Hi Nick > >Magazine 3-cd for a tenner is definitely worth it. They are not really >Buzzcocks-like, despite that being where Howard Devoto came from. > They >came to public attention with Shot By Both Sides which is an atypical piece >of new wave blanga. Most of their stuff is new-wave oriented but is more >keyboard- than guitar-dominated. They sound a little bit like The Tubes, >or pre-Midge Ure Ultravox...musically they have the same breadth and depth >as the best Bowie (Heroes era), but the sound is meatier than anything >Bowie did. Interesting mix of reference points! The Tubes had their moments, and the "What Do You Want ..." live album remains a minor classic... pre-Ure Ultravox I don't think I've ever heard, post-Ure Ultravox was bloody awful as far as I recall... and Bowie- well I've never been a fan, but I can understand why people are, if you see what I mean. > >There must be some mp3's you can listen to.... I would think so but I haven't found any. The best I've come up with is some short Realaudio samples at Amazon, and whaddayaknow- my Realplayer is playing up so that's no good either. >I don't have any url's to >hand since I am a long way from home right now...or muzd I send you one >anyway lol... Maybe... Anyway in the light of not one but two offers to buy the box-set from me if it don't float my boat, I am going to get the thing sometime this week. Cheers for all the responses On the subject of MP3's, I did find some by Farflung (at mp3.com), and having read about them endlessly here, I felt compelled to check 'em out, and they are amazing! -- Nick Medford From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon May 28 17:33:07 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:33:07 -0000 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Sarong Hawkwind Message-ID: yea he's an old git >From: mike c >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Chronicles Of The Black Sarong Hawkwind >Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:16:11 -0600 > >"about 29 years ago. yeesh" > >gotta be worth a couple 'cuties', huh Larry! > > >hats off to your seniority! > > >must be nice to be 'on board' that long.... > >m _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon May 28 18:52:01 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:52:01 -0600 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "yeah you got both and they're both crap" Dear Mr.<< T.-H.-O.-M.-S.>> stop!!! you know I want you and Baron counting the dollars at the dayspa..... From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon May 28 18:48:52 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:48:52 -0000 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: fuck dollars igot enough weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee e >From: mike c >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors >Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:52:01 -0600 > >"yeah you got both and they're both crap" > >Dear Mr.<< T.-H.-O.-M.-S.>> > >stop!!! you know I want you and Baron counting the dollars at the >dayspa..... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From wbrehm1 at HOME.COM Mon May 28 18:50:39 2001 From: wbrehm1 at HOME.COM (Will Brehm) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:50:39 -0400 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question Message-ID: >Good Girl appeared on the BrothelInRS tape and on Friends & Relations pt. 1. I don't know about the "Brothel in Rosenstrasse" tape, but the F&R1 and Hawkwind Connection versions of this track are not the same. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon May 28 20:21:29 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:21:29 -0600 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Atomgramps: "fuck dollars igot enough weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" Good! I'll use them for the dope when you and "Mr. Thistle" come to town..... ****S>O>O>N>***(my noxious fumigation name, not an invitation)(although I 'spose it's OK if you tag along) ' PS...all the bucks in Daves stash won't turn back the clock "ol' carrot" with the big amp" PS-I found the keys, so I can be nice to you again, I'm not so pissed off as when I begun this mail.... sorry, had to "vent" on someone.... it must be nearing your bed-time..... surely you tire. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon May 28 19:33:19 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:33:19 -0000 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: ya fukin young wankaaah >From: mike c >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors >Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:21:29 -0600 > > Atomgramps: > >"fuck dollars igot enough >weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee >eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee >eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee >eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee >eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee >eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" > > >Good! I'll use them for the dope when you and "Mr. Thistle" come to >town..... > >****S>O>O>N>***(my noxious fumigation name, not an invitation)(although I >'spose it's OK if you tag along) >' >PS...all the bucks in Daves stash won't turn back the clock "ol' carrot" >with the big amp" > >PS-I found the keys, so I can be nice to you again, I'm not so pissed off >as when I begun this mail.... > >sorry, had to "vent" on someone.... > >it must be nearing your bed-time..... > >surely you tire. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon May 28 21:01:42 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:01:42 -0600 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "ya fukin young wankaaah" Dear little Timmie, with great records, vicious style, and the ability to please the opposite sex beyond the call of duty..... LoL mc ps...your on your own now, since it's almost my bed-time. If they throw insults at you, and make you cry, I'll fix it tomorrow..... you just go on playing, and have a good time, ***starstruck groupieparental*** From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Mon May 28 22:06:52 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:06:52 -0400 Subject: MP3s for the Lounge Axe show. Message-ID: Hi all Until 11pm US East Coast time Tuesday night (i.e. approximately 24 hrs from now) the MP3's for the Lounge axe show will be available on my Freedrive account. These are the "raw" MP3s that I downloaded off the usenet, i.e. the source files for the Vine. Click here: http://www.freedrive.com/ and use my user name and password mhabiby hawkwind They are in a folder called LoungeAxe. You can then download the MP3's. Strongly suggest that you have a fast connection! I am pretty sure that only one person can log on at a time so be patient. I have no idea how many people (more than the one person who has already contacted me) are interested in these original MP3's. Tomorrow night I will be removing the files and redoing my password. Take care and enjoy Mike From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon May 28 23:32:14 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:02:14 +0930 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: Uh - thanks Mb :) ----- Original Message ----- From: keith kirk To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 5:42 AM Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > >From: "Mich at el B" > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > >Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:21:04 +0930 > > > >I have an vinyl copy of The Warrior album. Where does one find the hair if > >he was looking and what does it mean? > > > >Mb > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: mike c +klkirk64 at hotmail.com > >To: > >Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:52 AM > >Subject: Re: HW:red shift + interstellar chaos > > > > > > > have copies of both of these (if I wasn't clear....possibly only 1 or 2 > > > red-shift) > > > > > > where's hairless warrior....???? > > >kering thort kirk > > > > > > "curse and damn you, all you fall by the hands of the sinner"... > > >time = ss/pc ratio > > > (but I'll lift you out of the pit when the Warrior is delivered) > > >i have 21 albums and need it on cd lost vinal > > > mike c, who is JOKING ....(but not about bainbridge stash) > i have his so fucked up every where i go keith p.s. that kid > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon May 28 23:39:44 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:09:44 +0930 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: **************************************************************************** **** > I confess.....this is the strangest post I have ever seen.. > > I thought I was weird. > > m > > no hairless warrior to trade for CD then??? > Oh my brain....... I have a Warrior LP its vinyl is in really good condition but the front cover has a small section where a price tag might once have resided? For the life of me I cannot find any hairs - conclussion - I have a HAIRLESS WARRIOR 2) This is trick? :) What colour hair is it - if a hairy warrior is required I'm sure I left a few brown ones in the shower? A little glue an WHALLA!!!!!!!! >>>OFF<<< Does any one else out there also feel that Wilma Flintstone is the most desireable woman in the world? From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon May 28 23:53:14 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:23:14 +0930 Subject: BEWARE of emails containing subject - A Virtual Card for You - Virusy things -READ Message-ID: If this is legit then beware > > > A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by > > >Microsoft > > >(www.microsoft.com) and by the most destructive ever! This virus was > > >discovered yesterday afternoon by McAfee and no vaccine has > > > yet been developed. This virus simply destroys Sector Zero from the > hard > > >disk, where vital information for its functioning are stored. This virus > > >acts in the following manner: It sends itself automatically to all > contacts > > > on your list with the title "A Virtual Card for You". As soon as the > > >supposed virtual card is opened, the computer freezes so that the user > has > > >to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys or the reset button are pressed, > the > > >virus destroys Sector Zero, thus permanently destroying the hard disk. > > > > > > Yesterday in just a few hours this virus caused panic in New York, > > >according to news broadcast by CNN > > > (www.cnn.com). This alert was received by an employee of Microsoft > > >itself. > > >So don't open any mails with subject "A Virtual Card for You". As soon as > > >you get the mail, delete it. Please pass on this mail to all your > friends. > > >Forward this to everyone in your address book. I would > > > rather receive this 25 times than not at all. > > > Also: Intel announced that a new and very destructive virus was > > >discovered > > >recently. If you receive an email called "An Internet Flower For You", do > > >not open it. Delete it right away! This virus removes all dynamic link > > >libraries(.dll files) from your computer. Your computer will not be able > to > > >boot up. > > > SEND THIS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR CONTACT > > > LIST!! > > > > > > Vanessa Wright > > > Assistant to VP-Network Planning > > > From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Tue May 29 02:38:37 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 01:38:37 -0500 Subject: Off BEWARE of emails containing subject - A Virtual Card for You - Virusy things -READ Message-ID: Dude it's too late were all gonna die. I'm iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnfffffffffffffeeeeeeeeeeec ccccccccccccctttttteeeeeeedddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh I guess this is no worse than the other posts I've seen today. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mich at el B" To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:53 PM Subject: BEWARE of emails containing subject - A Virtual Card for You - Virusy things -READ If this is legit then beware > > > A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by > > >Microsoft > > >(www.microsoft.com) and by the most destructive ever! This virus was > > >discovered yesterday afternoon by McAfee and no vaccine has > > > yet been developed. This virus simply destroys Sector Zero from the > hard > > >disk, where vital information for its functioning are stored. This virus > > >acts in the following manner: It sends itself automatically to all > contacts > > > on your list with the title "A Virtual Card for You". As soon as the > > >supposed virtual card is opened, the computer freezes so that the user > has > > >to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys or the reset button are pressed, > the > > >virus destroys Sector Zero, thus permanently destroying the hard disk. > > > > > > Yesterday in just a few hours this virus caused panic in New York, > > >according to news broadcast by CNN > > > (www.cnn.com). This alert was received by an employee of Microsoft > > >itself. > > >So don't open any mails with subject "A Virtual Card for You". As soon as > > >you get the mail, delete it. Please pass on this mail to all your > friends. > > >Forward this to everyone in your address book. I would > > > rather receive this 25 times than not at all. > > > Also: Intel announced that a new and very destructive virus was > > >discovered > > >recently. If you receive an email called "An Internet Flower For You", do > > >not open it. Delete it right away! This virus removes all dynamic link > > >libraries(.dll files) from your computer. Your computer will not be able > to > > >boot up. > > > SEND THIS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR CONTACT > > > LIST!! > > > > > > Vanessa Wright > > > Assistant to VP-Network Planning > > > From mail at SUPER-TUNES.DE Tue May 29 02:55:54 2001 From: mail at SUPER-TUNES.DE (Chris Appelt) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 02:55:54 -0400 Subject: HW: List of homegrown CD-R's Message-ID: Hi Bernhard, that's really the right way, thanx for it. Chris From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 29 04:44:18 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 04:44:18 -0400 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: It is the live double from the "reunion" concerts that Nik, Huw, et al played last year in Wales and Birkenhead. Colin From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue May 29 05:40:09 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 10:40:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: Sorry Jon Got to disagree, I thought Danny wa always the lamest hamfisted drummer hawkwind ever had, the night of the hawks track is unlistenable to me because of the aweful drums. But Martin Griffin to me was a very good drummer, better than a lot of the drummers hawkwind have had over the past 20 years. Sonic attack is a great album, made all the better from Martin's great drumming. But then Choose your masks is an abomination of an album, the drums are gated , metronomically perfect and without any movemnet to allow for fills etc, and may as well have been a drum machine. I really wished martin had played the drums instead of Danny at the hawkestra, Danny's drums we just to much boom boom boom for me, and no finesse best regards Iain Jon Jarrett wrote: > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, colm mcwilliams wrote: > > > I have never been that impressed with danny thompsons style of drumming when > > he was in hawkwind. Strangley though when i saw him drum at the hawkestra > > gig for both hawkwind and bedouin i thought he was pretty good! > > I think there are two things going on here, the first being that > he has just got a lot better (and got a better kit maybe? He does need one > built to his size really... ) over the years, and the second that Bedouin > just goes faster. Danny's variation isn't huge but when you're going at > that speed what he does do by way of it comes across much more effectively > because the attack of it is that much greater. That's how it seems to me > anyway. He's still not as bad as Martin Griffin for lack of inspiration > though; okay his drumming on _Xenon Codex_ is nothing special but then the > production of it makes it so flat that one wouldn't care even if it > were. But compare it to Martin on _Choose Your Masques_, and... well, come > back Danny all is forgiven, you know? Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sun May 27 16:48:47 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 21:48:47 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: Hey Layla are you a Geordie? Do you still live in Newcastle? Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 3:41 PM Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 05/19/01 04:06pm >>> > Layla: > > "ummmm. how can u do that??" (yeah how??) > > > "who told u I was geordie!!??" (yeah who??) > > It's not THAT obvious....................is it?????? (not on the content of > that post) > > And don't you be saying bad things about the Fairies....or "'am gonna nut > ya!!!!" lol! (Lazza will love you) > > > Mike, who wishes life wasn't so cruel...... > > she's GREAT.......she's....she's....MINE in the realm of dream???? > > so treat my "Dream UK" sweetie right or I'll have to get Judge Trev out of > Brighton until I can get over there...... > > you don't mind if I say that you are Beautiful, do you? Layla?? > > > > No, I don't mind at all babe!! > > > Thanks for the support! > > Layla. > From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue May 29 05:53:06 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:53:06 +0200 Subject: HW: Father and son In-Reply-To: <3B136E79.B60201A2@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Iain, I mainly agree with your opinion but there's a little nitpick: >Got to disagree, I thought Danny wa always the lamest hamfisted drummer >hawkwind >ever had, the night of the hawks track is unlistenable to me because of the >aweful drums. Danny Thompson didn't play the drums on NotH. It was John Clark. (c)IAO D+R From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue May 29 06:06:03 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:06:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: Denis, Thanks man, In that case John Clark was the worst drummer hawkwind ever had It sounds so much like Danny playing that i assumed it was him. I stand corrected regards Iain Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > Hi Iain, > > I mainly agree with your opinion but there's a little nitpick: > > >Got to disagree, I thought Danny wa always the lamest hamfisted drummer > >hawkwind > >ever had, the night of the hawks track is unlistenable to me because of the > >aweful drums. > > Danny Thompson didn't play the drums on NotH. It was John Clark. > > (c)IAO > > D+R From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 29 07:02:52 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:02:52 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Sun, 27 May 2001 21:48:47 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > Hey Layla are you a Geordie? > Do you still live in Newcastle? Let's do a scientific test: I heard Layla moved to Sunderland... FoFP From coral at APORT.RU Tue May 29 07:15:49 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:15:49 +0400 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Regenbrecht To: Sent: 29 ??? 2001 ?. 13:53 Subject: Re: HW: Father and son > >Got to disagree, I thought Danny wa always the lamest hamfisted drummer > >hawkwind > >ever had He is a good drummer, not the best but he is good one. His style is too straightforward but it was ok for heavy metal 80's style. There are a lot of much worse drummers, for example Ginger Baker who ruined the album Levitation and live shows where he played. cheers, Alice From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue May 29 07:24:35 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:24:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: Hi Alice, I thought Gingers drums were great on Levitation, I thought his tribal style really moved the music along. However live I agree he was poo. I saw him at bristol on the 1980 tour and he did a drum solo !!!!! The booing from the audience was great but that turned to huge laughter when his big gong behind him fell from the stand as he hit it !! very very spinal tap regards Iain Alissa wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denis Regenbrecht > To: > Sent: 29 ??? 2001 ?. 13:53 > Subject: Re: HW: Father and son > > > >Got to disagree, I thought Danny wa always the lamest hamfisted drummer > > >hawkwind > > >ever had > > He is a good drummer, not the best but he is good one. His style is too > straightforward but it was ok for heavy metal 80's style. > There are a lot of much worse drummers, for example Ginger Baker who ruined > the album Levitation and live shows where he played. > > cheers, > Alice From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue May 29 07:35:26 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:35:26 +0200 Subject: HW: Father and son In-Reply-To: <004701c0e830$b8cd2420$5d05efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: Hi, >He is a good drummer, not the best but he is good one. His style is too >straightforward but it was ok for heavy metal 80's style. >There are a lot of much worse drummers, for example Ginger Baker who ruined >the album Levitation and live shows where he played. Ginger Baker a bad drummer? NACK! And he didn't ruin Levitation IMO. His drumming fits very well in the whole style of the album. He isn't the best drummer for playing HW-music (Simon and Richard are the HW-drum-gods without a doubt), but I prefer his playing many times more than Danny's 'oomph-ta-oomph-ta-oomph-ta-ta'. BTW, I wonder what way HW would have gone, if Harvey had been fired and Jack Bruce brought in as his replacement, as mentioned in Kris' book. (c)IAO D+R From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Tue May 29 07:47:11 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:47:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: I too thought Ginger's drums on Levitation lifted it above most of the other 80's hawkwind material. I was too young to see Hawkwind in the early 80's but would have loved to be at that bristol gig! :-) Also did Danny Thompson actually play on "Xenon Codex" as the drums sound so leaden it could actually be a drum machine. cheers Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 ----- Original Message ----- From: "iain ferguson" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:24 PM Subject: Re: HW: Father and son Hi Alice, I thought Gingers drums were great on Levitation, I thought his tribal style really moved the music along. However live I agree he was poo. I saw him at bristol on the 1980 tour and he did a drum solo !!!!! The booing from the audience was great but that turned to huge laughter when his big gong behind him fell from the stand as he hit it !! very very spinal tap regards Iain Alissa wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denis Regenbrecht > To: > Sent: 29 ??? 2001 ?. 13:53 > Subject: Re: HW: Father and son > > > >Got to disagree, I thought Danny wa always the lamest hamfisted drummer > > >hawkwind > > >ever had > > He is a good drummer, not the best but he is good one. His style is too > straightforward but it was ok for heavy metal 80's style. > There are a lot of much worse drummers, for example Ginger Baker who ruined > the album Levitation and live shows where he played. > > cheers, > Alice From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue May 29 08:18:49 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:18:49 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: SUNDERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU COMPLETELY DAFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????? DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT I AM THAT STUPID!!! BLOODY SUNDERLAND!! Aye, Ahm a Geordie........... so PLEASE divvent insult me by telling me tha yee thowt Ah lived in Sunderland!!!! I'd rortha be hung up by me toes an bled te death than live there..... an yee knaa tha git well Ahm sure!!!! Of aal the blooming cheek!!! lmao!! Layla. xx (THE Geordie Lass!!!!) >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/29/01 12:02pm >>> XXX writes: > Hey Layla are you a Geordie? > Do you still live in Newcastle? Let's do a scientific test: I heard Layla moved to Sunderland... FoFP From coral at APORT.RU Tue May 29 08:59:57 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:59:57 +0400 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: > I too thought Ginger's drums on Levitation lifted it above most of the other > 80's hawkwind material. I was too young to see Hawkwind in the early 80's > but would have loved to be at that bristol gig! :-) > > Also did Danny Thompson actually play on "Xenon Codex" as the drums sound so > leaden it could actually be a drum machine. I think he played on this album. Thugh the sound then could be leveled in the mixing desk. I don't hear anything wrong on this album, it's one of my fave studios. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 29 09:24:10 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:24:10 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens In-Reply-To: Layla Thompson's message of Tue, 29 May 2001 13:18:49 +0100 Message-ID: Layla Thompson writes: > SUNDERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > ARE YOU COMPLETELY DAFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????? > > DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT I AM THAT STUPID!!! > > > BLOODY SUNDERLAND!! > Aye, Ahm a Geordie........... so PLEASE divvent insult me by > telling me tha yee thowt Ah lived in Sunderland!!!! I'd rortha be > hung up by me toes an bled te death than live there..... an yee > knaa tha git well Ahm sure!!!! Aye, ah ken what eer sayin hen. Yow bein a proper Geordie en that eel no be very taen oan wi that wee reemerk aboot Sunderland. That wis the reesin ah thoat ah'd trie that wee test. Ahm frae jist up the road ower in Hawick, mie bein a Teri en that. When it comes doon tae eet ah'm a Borders nationalist en reckin oo shid a' git the gither en declare independence frae Scotlind en Inglend en oo'll make oor capihal in Newcastle. > Layla. xx (THE Geordie Lass!!!!) Teri Bus Ye! FoFP From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue May 29 09:52:45 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:52:45 +0800 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: > > I too thought Ginger's drums on Levitation lifted it above most of the > other > > 80's hawkwind material. I was too young to see Hawkwind in the early 80's > > but would have loved to be at that bristol gig! :-) > > > > Also did Danny Thompson actually play on "Xenon Codex" as the drums sound > so > > leaden it could actually be a drum machine. > > I think he played on this album. Thugh the sound then could be leveled in > the mixing desk. I don't hear anything wrong on this album, it's one of my > fave studios. > I really like the last few tracks on the album, Sword of the East (one of my favourite HW tracks) & Good Evening. From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue May 29 09:56:42 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:56:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: Rev. Jim Jones assimilated into mainstream shock! Message-ID: Further to recent discussion here regarding recordings of the Jonestown mass suicide, I was amazed to see them on sale in my local Virgin Megastore the other day. Nothing to do with Psychic TV, certainly not "Thee Last Supper" album, but a double CD of recordings from Jonestown. The first CD looked like it had Rev JJ sermonising, second CD was "the mass suicide symphony" or similar. The whole presented in lurid packaging with a tacky "warning" (i.e. a come-on) as to the nature of the contents. There is even now a section in the shop marked "Jonestown", presumably in honour of this release. I didn't buy it and found it considerably more offensive than the PTV album, which didn't really offend me at all.. A question: does it really make a difference that it's now in sensationalist packaging in a mainstream store? It seems to me that I could defend it when it was an obscure release by an underground, counterculture type band, but now it feels completely different. But is it, really? From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Tue May 29 10:11:08 2001 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 10:11:08 -0400 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question Message-ID: Although Lord of the Hornets and The Greenfly And The Rose were issued as a single (Ficknife, double A side) the versions on The Hawkwind Connection are very different and nowhere near as good as the single releases. I presume that these actually are the demo versions From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Tue May 29 11:46:46 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:46:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Family Tree. Message-ID: I'm tempted to purchase Family Tree cd and would like reviews from all you out there as to quality and how good are the non-HW non-Dave tracks. Thanks. Rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From R.A.Williams at OPEN.AC.UK Tue May 29 11:36:34 2001 From: R.A.Williams at OPEN.AC.UK (Richard Williams) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:36:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Black sword DVD Message-ID: This is my first posting so I hope it gets through! I too happened upon the Black Sword DVD in HMV this weekend gone (and rather surprised I was too). Of course, no hesitation in buying it! I was very pleased with the overall quality except for the sound. Must say I was a little disappointed with the levels of the sound and had to crank up my stereo (which is a dolby surround 5.1 system) to over half way (which would normally cause severe problems with my neighbours) to get any decent volume out of it. I also have this on VHS so was also looking forward to the DVD extras, not that I honestly expected much. There were a few extra menu items but was mostly information from the DVD producers and not Hawkwind related. Several websites were provided though. The best extra of all however, and the reason why I left it till last, is that they have included the gig's encore! Great to see Moorcock joining in on the jam!!! Thanks for listening to my rant! Richard. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue May 29 12:01:56 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:01:56 EDT Subject: OFF: Rev. Jim Jones assimilated into mainstream shock! Message-ID: oy..... y'know, i had a song about jonestown, "3 after 909" but the carnage total kept changing; "2, or 3, or 4 after 909" etc. "<>" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 29 13:07:30 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 02:37:30 +0930 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: IMPRESSIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:48 PM Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > SUNDERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > ARE YOU COMPLETELY DAFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????? > > DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT I AM THAT STUPID!!! > > > BLOODY SUNDERLAND!! > > > Aye, Ahm a Geordie........... so PLEASE divvent insult me by telling me tha yee thowt Ah lived in Sunderland!!!! I'd rortha be hung up by me toes an bled te death than live there..... an yee knaa tha git well Ahm sure!!!! > > Of aal the blooming cheek!!! > > lmao!! > > Layla. xx (THE Geordie Lass!!!!) > > > > >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/29/01 12:02pm >>> > XXX writes: > > > Hey Layla are you a Geordie? > > Do you still live in Newcastle? > > Let's do a scientific test: > > I heard Layla moved to Sunderland... > > FoFP > From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Tue May 29 13:14:55 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 10:14:55 -0700 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: The opening seconds of the first Hawks song I ever heard, when I dropped the needle on side 1 of Warrior, 25 years on...er, ago. scorch From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue May 29 13:26:55 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:26:55 GMT Subject: BRAIN/BOC: Sinful Love Message-ID: the Mp3 rocks! The main riff has a different tempo that the swirliness of the AoF. More specifically, the rhythm of the track is much "harsher" than AoF in the sense its gritty, and the chorus has a cool stiltedness to it. What is the lineup for the tune? I dig the guitar solo immensely. It has a good, gruff feel to the track. and horns! they add a need ominous decadence. Dig the ragged glory of the end as it stumbles with conviction down the busy streets.. I CANNOT WAIT TO ROCK TO THE WHOLE Disc. A prime cut of rock and roll. Helen would have loved it -- the tune fits very much with the sound of her and the Skeleton Crew live. In the interview with her in Search and Destroy, she felt that the BOC version was like a L.A. showboat feel. this is much more sinful (how can you get more sinful than LA?:) ) Thanks for making it availible, Albert! Jason --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 29 01:22:29 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 06:22:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Family Tree. Message-ID: Buy immediately!!!!!!!!! "Tripping Shipping" is worth it alone........... Dont wait.......do it NOW! Gary & Anna ----- Original Message ----- From: rob burton To: Sent: 29 May 2001 16:46 Subject: HW: Family Tree. > I'm tempted to purchase Family Tree cd and would like reviews from all you > out there as to quality and how good are the non-HW non-Dave tracks. > > Thanks. > > Rob > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue May 29 14:54:13 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:54:13 -0400 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: On Tue, 29 May 2001 21:52:45 +0800, William Duffy wrote: >I really like the last few tracks on the album, Sword of the East >(one of my favourite HW tracks) & Good Evening. I'm not a big fan of 'Xenon Codex' (Danny Thompson's drumming being one of several reasons), but I think that "Good Evening" is one of the most interesting HW tracks ever, and possibly the best things they did in the 80's. ... and ... iain ferguson wrote: >In that case John Clark was the worst drummer hawkwind ever had > >It sounds so much like Danny playing that i assumed it was him. Rob Heaton (who also played on the 'Earth Ritual Preview' EP) was also an awful drummer. Fortunately, he only played one gig with Hawkwind (Stonehenge '83), which has the worst drumming I've *ever* heard on a live Hawkwind recording. Hearing him play straight through the drop out breaks in "Master of the Universe" had me ROTFLMAO. He would top my list for Hawkwind's worst-ever drummer by virtue of that show ... >Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > >> Danny Thompson didn't play the drums on NotH. It was John Clark. > > ... > >I thought Gingers drums were great on Levitation, Me, too. Very solid, and they work well with the glassy/pristine digital recording of the album. Unlike 'Masques' and 'XC', where the drumming is completely unable to overcome the god-awful 80's production techniques that made the drums on most 80's recordings (not just HW) sound so horrible. >I saw him at bristol on the 1980 tour and he did a drum solo !!!!! >The booing from the audience was great but that turned to huge >laughter when his big gong behind him fell from the stand as he hit it !! >very very spinal tap I wish I had seen THAT! Denis Regenbrecht wrote: >BTW, I wonder what way HW would have gone, if Harvey had been fired and >Jack Bruce brought in as his replacement, as mentioned in Kris' book. Probably the same thing that happened to every band Bruce and Baker were in together, starting with Graham Bond's, which broke up when one of them (I *think* it was Ginger) pulled a knife on the other (Harvey got off easy!). Would've made the worst Dave/Nik/Lemmy/Bob rows (or even the infamous Moorcock/Calvert backstage punchup) look like old ladies arguing over proper flatware arrangements at tea-time. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue May 29 15:43:49 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:43:49 +0200 Subject: HW: tour programmes Message-ID: Hi, I'm planning to upload scans of all HW-programmes onto my homepage (already have 78 Hawklords, 79 MotU, 80 Levitation up in the Gigs section). Beside those already mentioned I know that there were programmes for the 76 ASAM, 81 Sonic Attack, 82 CYM and 84 Earth Ritual tours. I'm sure there were more. So if anyone could tell me what programmes exist I'd very grateful. BTW, does the booklet of the Atomhenge CD really contain the whole ASAM programme? thanx in advance & (c)IAO D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue May 29 16:23:32 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:23:32 +0100 Subject: HW: tour programmes In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010529213305.009f9080@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: In message <5.0.2.1.0.20010529213305.009f9080 at kommsrv.rz.unibw- muenchen.de>, Denis Regenbrecht writes >Hi, > >I'm planning to upload scans of all HW-programmes onto my homepage (already >have 78 Hawklords, 79 MotU, 80 Levitation up in the Gigs section). Beside >those already mentioned I know that there were programmes for the 76 ASAM, >81 Sonic Attack, 82 CYM and 84 Earth Ritual tours. I'm sure there were >more. So if anyone could tell me what programmes exist I'd very grateful. I'm fairly sure I have programmes from '86 and '88 stashed away, but not here... it'll be a few weeks before I can check. One of them (I think '88) has a board game in the middle- the aim is to reach the free festival in the middle, negotiating various hazards such as dishonest promoters and dodgy groupies on the way. There are also certain squares which, if landed on, mean the player has to roll a joint for his fellow-players. It's done in a comic-book style a la Hawkfrendz. Highly embarrassing or highly amusing, according to mood. -- Nick Medford From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Tue May 29 16:26:03 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 22:26:03 +0200 Subject: HW: tour programmes In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010529213305.009f9080@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenche n.de> Message-ID: Hi Denis At 21:43 29.05.2001 +0200, you wrote: > >I'm planning to upload scans of all HW-programmes onto my homepage (already >have 78 Hawklords, 79 MotU, 80 Levitation up in the Gigs section). Beside >those already mentioned I know that there were programmes for the 76 ASAM, >81 Sonic Attack, 82 CYM and 84 Earth Ritual tours. I'm sure there were >more. So if anyone could tell me what programmes exist I'd very grateful. >BTW, does the booklet of the Atomhenge CD really contain the whole ASAM >programme? Here we go: Space Ritual 1972 Winter 1974-1975 In Concert 1976 Astounding Tour 1976 Quark Tour 1977 Hawklords Tour 1978 Winter 1979 Levitation Tour 1980 Glastonbury 1981 Sonic Attac Tour 1981 Monemore Festival 1982 Monsters Of Rock 1982 Choose Your Masks Tour1982 Earth Ritual Tour 1984 Live Chronicles Tour 1985 Reading Festival 1986 Mad Docs Laboratory Tour 1988 Pentrich Festival 1995 Langtree Festival 1996 Bernhard From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue May 29 17:36:12 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:36:12 -0600 Subject: HW: tour programmes In-Reply-To: <7PrhtDAEVAF7EwaZ@hermit0.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: dear Nick.... That 88 program is great. That is the one. It is actually one of the rarest (I think), if not THE rarest (I think) programe.(regular programs),,aside of maybe the Space Ritual pamphlet. I love the doodle of Nik, where it says "Bring me the head of Nik Turner". Also, I think the game pieces, which are stickers, are intended to serve a dual purpose, of being usable to make tape "tags" (again, could be in error) nevertheless, it's nice. mc From senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU Tue May 29 16:36:42 2001 From: senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU (Bill Bradley) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:36:42 -0700 Subject: BEWARE of emails containing subject - A Virtual Card for You - Virusy things -READ In-Reply-To: <00ae01c0e7f2$e3f72260$89cd223f@michaelangelo68> from "Mich@el B" at "May 29, 2001 01:23:14 pm" Message-ID: It's a hoax... again If anyone had bothered to check cnn.com or microsoft.com we wouldn't be forced to receive more of this trash. www.snopes.com is also a good source to check before passing Urban Legends around Bill From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue May 29 16:43:51 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 22:43:51 +0200 Subject: HW: tour programmes In-Reply-To: <200105292026.WAA26233@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: Hi Bernhard, >Space Ritual 1972 >Winter 1974-1975 >In Concert 1976 >Astounding Tour 1976 >Quark Tour 1977 >Hawklords Tour 1978 >Winter 1979 >Levitation Tour 1980 >Glastonbury 1981 >Sonic Attac Tour 1981 >Monemore Festival 1982 >Monsters Of Rock 1982 >Choose Your Masks Tour1982 >Earth Ritual Tour 1984 >Live Chronicles Tour 1985 >Reading Festival 1986 >Mad Docs Laboratory Tour 1988 >Pentrich Festival 1995 >Langtree Festival 1996 Thanks a lot Bernhard! (c)IAO D+R From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue May 29 16:51:41 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:51:41 +0100 Subject: Travelling at the speed of space Message-ID: As far as I know the CD-ROM is not Hot Wacks but I intebd to order a couple for CDS so maybe I will rememebr to let yuo know. As to books on bootlegs, the best of them all has got to be the one yuo mentioned Doug, also known as 'The Great White Wonders - A History of Rock Bootlegs' which is such a great read (and I think I knew some of these people too), published by Viking. While I don;t have the time to collect boots at al these days (there's just far too much great new music out there), and while I am trying to get rid of my vinyl, I will no doubt keep the first few boot LP's I ever bought, way back in '71/'72, including a wonderful Hendrix one on this clear orange vinyl - ah, those were the days. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Travelling at the speed of space > On Fri, 25 May 2001 23:11:37 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI > wrote: > >To all intents and purposes, the UK boot industry has been replaced by the > >fans' CD-R collecting, a far healthier state of affairs if yuo've got to > >have a black market at all, > > I agree wholeheartedly! This seems to be (mostly) the case in the states > (although, like I said, one can still find boots at certain stores and many > record swaps). Exactly the reason for my "Home CD Recording is killing the > bootleg industry" quote. > > >For those with a > >real thirst for knowledge of all things boot-y, there's just come out a > >CD-ROM with over 40,000 boot entries and info and track lists, etc, etc, > > 'Hot Wacks'? > > And, by all means, check out Clinton Heylin's book 'Bootleg' that covers > the history of rock bootlegs (and a bit of pre-history - rock was HARDLY > the first genre to experience this "problem"), including the major players > (and their motivations), the ever-evolving legal issues, the "rotation" of > countries that were boot-"friendly" at various times, etc. etc. A great > read chock-full of interesting facts ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue May 29 16:53:10 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:53:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: Speaker\Cranker Message-ID: and these people wonder why they don't sell more CD's!!!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:15 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Speaker\Cranker > On Fri, 25 May 2001 23:27:18 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI > wrote: > >I wanted to sell their CD at CD Services, contacted them but got no > >reply so if anyone knows them, tell them to drop me a line, please. > > I dunno about Jones & the rest, but Scott Pickering is one of the most > difficult human beings in the universe to get in touch with! I was unable > to track him down to give him his copies of the Hawkwind tribute CD that he > PLAYS ON until I ran into him at Strange Daze last year. (And it sure was > embarassing when I rang his doorbell, CD's in hand, and it was answered by > some guy who had been living there for the last two years who had NO IDEA > who Scott Pickering was!) > > The Trans-Lunar Express set (Speaker\Cranker offshoot) was definitely one > of the highlights of SD2k IMO ... fantastic stuff! > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue May 29 17:01:52 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 22:01:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Magazine Message-ID: yeh - but did you ever get the Beranard Szajner album on Island that featured Devoto or see the concert one-off in London where we had the unlikely trio of Szajner, Devoto and Magma's bassist Bernard Paganotti all on stage together?? Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Browne" To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:27 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Magazine > In article , Nick Medford > writes > >I've read a lot about this band but AFAIK never heard anything by them. > >They were a late 70s/early 80s group that included Howard Devoto and John > >McGeoch, and supposedly were something pretty special, but of course the > >mainstream music press cannot be trusted on such things... > > > >Anyway the point of this post is that my local CD emporium has the triple > >CD Magazine retrospective called "Maybe It's Right To Be Nervous Now" > >going for just 10 quid, and this seems like a remarkable bargain to me, as > >from what I've read I suspect I might really like this band, but OTOH a > >triple CD box-set is a bit of a biggie for a speculative punt on a band you > >haven't heard... so can anyone fill me in a bit on this band and their sound? > >The kind of reference points I had were that they might be a sort of UK > >equivalent of Pere Ubu or early Talking Heads. If in fact they were a > >power-pop outfit like the Buzzcocks can someone warn me please... > >-- > >Nick Medford > > > I haven't bought "Maybe It's Right", but I've got everything else by > Magazine. I think they're great. Buy it. If you don't like it, I'll buy > it off you. You can't lose, eh? Do bear in mind it's like outtakes, > live versions etc. > > Real Life is their best LP, a real fave which gets played regularly even > after twenty-plus years, followed by Secondhand Daylight. Real Life is > one of two or three albums that I have had five or six copies of over > the years, because it just gets played to death. Magnificent in places. > "The Light Pours Out Of Me" - wow. > > They ain't like Buzzcocks, (who are also great BTW, and still produce > fine spiky stuff!) They do have punk sensibilities, but were clearly > very prog influenced too. Longer songs, mood pieces, keyboard solos etc. > Another thing that marked them out was the lyrics, which were literate > in the main. Devoto now works on and off with Apollo 440, who covered > Don't Fear The Reaper. (BOC-L content here!) > > I honestly couldn't say how they would sound these days, to modern ears. > Not fantastic, I suspect, but at the time they were a bit of revelation > to me, and they still work for me. They were my favourite band, one > month in 1978. > -- > Jon > NP Punishment of Luxury - Puppet Life (Anyone got the LP this came off?) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue May 29 17:10:44 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 22:10:44 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: OK - brief run through Alan Davey-Final Call - June (our fault at CDS - we keep getting way laid with other things - the master and artwork realy will go tot he manufacturers soon - honest!! - sorry Alan) Bedouin-July (or certainly before August) Turner's Hawkmob-double live CD from last year - theoretically July but knowing the label it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't leave it until the all-dayer on Aug 12th Turner-America double - theoretically July but will call Nik this week and find out. Hawkwind- Nott '90 single CD? dbl CD? date of release? suddenly everyone has clammed up, so unknown right now Krel - going nicely - on schedule for end July at this rate. Spacehead- more of a rocky road - maybe July. Farflung-new studio - unknown as yet. So, could be one hell of a summer for releases, or not as the case may be. Andy Garibaldi oh - and apologies to everyone who bought the new Anubian Lights studio CD from CD Services - I do assure you all that if I had played the thing before last week and found out just how much it sucked, I would have warned you all. I will try and make sure this sort of thing does not happen again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 12:22 AM Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > > > Strange days here in the UK - just about finsihed with the new CDS > > catalogue - unfortunately Voiceprint were being reticent about new release > > info concerning the next thing due which is the Nottingham '90 CD (still > > don;t know if it's a double CD or not), Ozit won't give a track list for the > > Nik Turner double from last year or even a correct title, and I've not yet > > got to Alan so I haven't got a firm date for Bedouin either, but thye're all > > in there anyway. > > Andy, > I realise that when the catalogue is finihsed I'll rapidly > be finding out, but what's this Nik thing you refer to here? More Sphynx > stuff from the Deeply Vale archives or something more modern? Yours > curiously, > Jon > > ObCD: Krel - _Ad Astra_ > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From coral at APORT.RU Tue May 29 17:30:14 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 01:30:14 +0400 Subject: MP3s for the Lounge Axe show. Message-ID: > Until 11pm US East Coast time Tuesday night (i.e. approximately 24 hrs from > now) the MP3's for the Lounge axe show will be available on my Freedrive > account. These are the "raw" MP3s that I downloaded off the usenet, i.e. > the source files for the Vine. It writes "download limit exceded" is there any other place to download it? cheers, Alice From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Tue May 29 18:14:27 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:14:27 -0400 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: I'm gonna give Martin Griffin a big 'We are the Champions' style thumbs up. He is one of my favourite HW drummers, up there with Mr. Ollis and Mr. King. I think Martin's metronomic style fits the electronic sound of the RCA albums perfectly. Didn't they also use a drum machine along with the drummer on 'Choose Your Masques'? It sounds to me like that was the idea behind the drums on that album, a kind of pre-cursor to Trance. Alastair (place of birth - Void City). On Tue, 29 May 2001 10:40:09 +0100, iain ferguson wrote: >Sorry Jon > >Got to disagree, I thought Danny wa always the lamest hamfisted drummer hawkwind >ever had, the night of the hawks track is unlistenable to me because of the >aweful drums. >But Martin Griffin to me was a very good drummer, better than a lot of the >drummers hawkwind have had over the past 20 years. >Sonic attack is a great album, made all the better from Martin's great drumming. > >But then Choose your masks is an abomination of an album, the drums are gated , >metronomically perfect and without any movemnet to allow for fills etc, and may as >well have been a drum machine. > >I really wished martin had played the drums instead of Danny at the hawkestra, >Danny's drums we just to much boom boom boom for me, and no finesse > >best regards >Iain > >Jon Jarrett wrote: > >> On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, colm mcwilliams wrote: >> >> > I have never been that impressed with danny thompsons style of drumming when >> > he was in hawkwind. Strangley though when i saw him drum at the hawkestra >> > gig for both hawkwind and bedouin i thought he was pretty good! >> >> I think there are two things going on here, the first being that >> he has just got a lot better (and got a better kit maybe? He does need one >> built to his size really... ) over the years, and the second that Bedouin >> just goes faster. Danny's variation isn't huge but when you're going at >> that speed what he does do by way of it comes across much more effectively >> because the attack of it is that much greater. That's how it seems to me >> anyway. He's still not as bad as Martin Griffin for lack of inspiration >> though; okay his drumming on _Xenon Codex_ is nothing special but then the >> production of it makes it so flat that one wouldn't care even if it >> were. But compare it to Martin on _Choose Your Masques_, and... well, come >> back Danny all is forgiven, you know? Yours, >> Jon >> >> -- >> Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> ===================================================================== >> "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Tue May 29 19:06:52 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 00:06:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son In-Reply-To: <200105292214.SAA17999@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: I thought the benefit of Andy Anderson, who immediately followed on from Martin Griffin, was in his infinitely better "metronomic" drumming. IMO he was not surpassed until the brilliant Richard Chadwick. Alasdair On 29 May 01, at 18:14, Alastair Lee Sumner wrote: > I'm gonna give Martin Griffin a big 'We are the Champions' style thumbs up. > He is one of my favourite HW drummers, up there with Mr. Ollis and Mr. > King. I think Martin's metronomic style fits the electronic sound of the > RCA albums perfectly. Didn't they also use a drum machine along with the > drummer on 'Choose Your Masques'? It sounds to me like that was the idea > behind the drums on that album, a kind of pre-cursor to Trance. > > Alastair (place of birth - Void City). > > On Tue, 29 May 2001 10:40:09 +0100, iain ferguson > wrote: > > >Sorry Jon > > > >Got to disagree, I thought Danny wa always the lamest hamfisted drummer > hawkwind > >ever had, the night of the hawks track is unlistenable to me because of > the > >aweful drums. > >But Martin Griffin to me was a very good drummer, better than a lot of the > >drummers hawkwind have had over the past 20 years. > >Sonic attack is a great album, made all the better from Martin's great > drumming. > > > >But then Choose your masks is an abomination of an album, the drums are > gated , > >metronomically perfect and without any movemnet to allow for fills etc, > and may as > >well have been a drum machine. > > > >I really wished martin had played the drums instead of Danny at the > hawkestra, > >Danny's drums we just to much boom boom boom for me, and no finesse > > > >best regards > >Iain > > > >Jon Jarrett wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, colm mcwilliams wrote: > >> > >> > I have never been that impressed with danny thompsons style of > drumming when > >> > he was in hawkwind. Strangley though when i saw him drum at the > hawkestra > >> > gig for both hawkwind and bedouin i thought he was pretty good! > >> > >> I think there are two things going on here, the first being that > >> he has just got a lot better (and got a better kit maybe? He does need > one > >> built to his size really... ) over the years, and the second that Bedouin > >> just goes faster. Danny's variation isn't huge but when you're going at > >> that speed what he does do by way of it comes across much more > effectively > >> because the attack of it is that much greater. That's how it seems to me > >> anyway. He's still not as bad as Martin Griffin for lack of inspiration > >> though; okay his drumming on _Xenon Codex_ is nothing special but then > the > >> production of it makes it so flat that one wouldn't care even if it > >> were. But compare it to Martin on _Choose Your Masques_, and... well, > come > >> back Danny all is forgiven, you know? Yours, From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue May 29 19:34:08 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:34:08 -0400 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: OK, good! Now we can tell AlasDair and AlasTair apart! AlasDair likes AnDy AnDerson AlasTair likes MarTin Griffin FWIW my favorite Hawkwind drummer between Simon King and Richard Chadwick (this might be a good "poll" question since there's about 18 different possibilities!) is Clive Deamer (he SMOKES on the 4/26/85 ECT set, and effortlessly blows away Danny Thompson on 'Undisclosed Files'). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com On Wed, 30 May 2001 00:06:52 +0100, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: >I thought the benefit of Andy Anderson, who immediately followed >on from Martin Griffin, was in his infinitely better "metronomic" >drumming. IMO he was not surpassed until the brilliant Richard >Chadwick. > >On 29 May 01, at 18:14, Alastair Lee Sumner wrote: >> I'm gonna give Martin Griffin a big 'We are the Champions' style >> thumbs up ... From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue May 29 19:55:43 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:55:43 -0400 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: Am I high (no, unfortunately, I'm still at work)? I can't believe that, on Tue, 29 May 2001 19:34:08 -0400, I wrote: >Clive Deamer (he SMOKES on the 4/26/85 ECT set, and >effortlessly blows away Danny Thompson on 'Undisclosed Files'). I'll leave it as an exercise to someone else to identify the error in that statement! (Clive was still a great Hawkwind drummer, though!) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Tue May 29 20:03:55 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:03:55 -0500 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: Yeah right on! Clive Deamer was really awesome on that ECT recording! I've always ranked that performance as among my favorite HW appearances.... really high energy! For me, the worst HW drummer is a toss-up between the much-maligned Danny Thompson and Martin Griffin, as has already been pointed out by many others... John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > FWIW my favorite Hawkwind drummer between Simon King and Richard Chadwick > (this might be a good "poll" question since there's about 18 different > possibilities!) is Clive Deamer (he SMOKES on the 4/26/85 ECT set, and > effortlessly blows away Danny Thompson on 'Undisclosed Files'). > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > > On Wed, 30 May 2001 00:06:52 +0100, Alasdair Macdonald > wrote: > >I thought the benefit of Andy Anderson, who immediately followed > >on from Martin Griffin, was in his infinitely better "metronomic" > >drumming. IMO he was not surpassed until the brilliant Richard > >Chadwick. > > > >On 29 May 01, at 18:14, Alastair Lee Sumner wrote: > >> I'm gonna give Martin Griffin a big 'We are the Champions' style > >> thumbs up ... From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Tue May 29 20:10:38 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 20:10:38 -0400 Subject: emergency situation/lineup shortage Message-ID: Hello friends, as some of you may know, Sloterdijk is scheduled to play at "Rockers" in Philadelphia, this coming friday night, June 1.. Well, we have run into a little problem, or rather potential problem, and that is that Jay probably will not be there...He has just now remembered that he is in a wedding that evening.. Now, I could do this show solo, but am not digging that prospect, especially in light of the fact that this hall is pretty big and I've never played there before...Consequently, be prepared for possible lineup changes, or rather shall I say, that the lineup is being formulated as I type.. Bob McConnell who has played bass for us in the past will be invited, and I have also invited a new friend Mark Fenkner; who has studied under Robert Fripp. I have no clue, whether either of them will accept the offer..In light of that, I ask you now; is there anyone who would be interested in standing in that evening? Duties would include, synth and or guitar/bass. Obviously you should know at least some Sloterdijk, or feel confident enough to listen to our mp3 files, (4 tunes of which will be included in the set), and learn quickly from them..There are also two cover tunes, which you can easily learn..Please contact me via email asap, if interested in doing this...In addition, this could lead to a permanent spot in the band if it gets on well.. PS space whisperers, dancers, female and male singers etc are also invited...My actual goal here, is to turn a shortage into a surplus. I don't want to be onstage alone that night, so if you just want to come and dance around while I play, that's cool too...The more the merrier..If someone wants to sing on one tune, or play on another etc, that's fine..If you are serious about doing the show, I'll send you the setlist...The main thing here is to be quick..You need to hear the tunes and get a rough idea of what your going to do, between now and friday night. Cheers, Mike Burro (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue May 29 20:27:01 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 20:27:01 EDT Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: In a message dated 5/28/01 9:32:11 AM US Eastern Standard Time, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > Hey Hawkpersons > > Which Hawkwind song(s) reeled you in, captured your imagination and turned > you on to the whole trip??? and why? > > Fer me, it was 'Assault and Battery (Part 1)' on Warrior. Actually, the WHOLE thing did me in, guv! :) The bass riff, the mellotron, then that driving rhythm, and I knew I had found something good! Simon's lead violin parts on 'Magnu,' 'Dying Seas,' 'Kings of Speed,' and 'Motorhead' utterly blew me away! Joe From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue May 29 20:00:20 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 02:00:20 +0200 Subject: HW: Father and son In-Reply-To: <200105292334.TAA18309@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi, >FWIW my favorite Hawkwind drummer between Simon King and Richard Chadwick >(this might be a good "poll" question since there's about 18 different >possibilities!) is Clive Deamer (he SMOKES on the 4/26/85 ECT set, and >effortlessly blows away Danny Thompson on 'Undisclosed Files'). I second that, he's very good. Anyone knows why he got sacked/left the band? BTW, a weird coincidence IMO is, that both Portishead (where Clive Deamer plays nowadays) and Hawkwind have songs that are very similar/derived to/from Gustav Holst's "Mars, bringer of War" of his Planets Suite. (c)IAO D+R From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue May 29 21:41:17 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:41:17 -0600 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <22.16c83264.28459855@aol.com> Message-ID: In a message dated 5/28/01 9:32:11 AM US Eastern Standard Time, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: Hey Hawkpersons Which Hawkwind song(s) reeled you in, captured your imagination and turn you on to the whole trip??? and why? space ritual, isos, acid, headphones, strange swarming baby-cockroaches around beer left sitting due to creek by apartment..... albums given to me due to annoying the female owner to play them upon every visit there m From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Tue May 29 20:44:30 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:44:30 -0700 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: I think the scariest thing about this is that I understood it! scorch From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue May 29 21:49:13 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:49:13 -0600 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <22.16c83264.28459855@aol.com> Message-ID: oh sorry... make that Born To Go, Orgone Accumulater, Adjust Me, Brainstorm,((Master Of The Universe)) (I think it used to blow me away...it must have if I don't remember)..Cockroaches offspring in mass quantity, acid, headphones, empty 3-day old beercans..... all the above were no longer needed (except the tunes) by the time warrior was located, although everything made the future except the old apartment and the roaches..... m I think children of the sun was a cool vibe From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue May 29 21:08:01 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:08:01 EDT Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: In a message dated 5/28/01 10:36:28 PM US Eastern Standard Time, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > For the life of me I cannot find any hairs - conclussion - I have a HAIRLESS > WARRIOR > 2) This is trick? :) > I've just snaffled meself a vinyl Warrior and I have a 'hair' on mine, I think. Up in the upper right corner of the front cover is a yellowish-orangey 'hair' running from the corner to almost the d in Hawkwind. (Ennyone else notice that the LP is a half-step higher, music-wise, than the CD?) > What colour hair is it - if a hairy warrior is required I'm sure I left a > few brown ones in the shower? A little glue an WHALLA!!!!!!!! > I could add a few greyish brown ones . . . > >>>OFF<<< Does any one else out there also feel that Wilma Flintstone is the > most desireable woman in the world? > > Nah, I'd more go for Daphne from Scobby-Doo Joe > > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue May 29 22:45:14 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 20:45:14 -0600 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: the good joe: "I've just snaffled meself a vinyl Warrior and I have a 'hair' on mine, I think. Up in the upper right corner of the front cover is a yellowish-orangey 'hair' running from the corner to almost the d in Hawkwind. (Ennyone else notice that the LP is a half-step higher, music-wise, than the CD?)" congrats Joe.... apparently you are now among the owners of the VERY ORIGINAL warrior. You describe the hair properly. In mine, it is usually an off-whitish color, but maybe I am colorblind, and you do describe the exact location. which warrior CD are you comparing, as the UK one differs to the USA, and I wouldn't doubt if they all differ in some ways...... but I think the generally accepted stance would be that the UK version is made from a UK vinyl source, and the USA one is made from master tapes of the USA version, which probably is a half step different..... I await the truth..... or anything anyone cares to say.... mike From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue May 29 21:57:56 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:57:56 EDT Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: My Warrior hairy could have been white, but it looks a bit yellowish-orangey now. My CD is the Griffin one from the Box Set, which says " . . . was digitally transferred from the Atco master tapes . . .," which means it's a copy of the US LP, whereas the Dojo is a copy of the UK, I guess? Mine gots the 'Magno' typo, as well. Joe From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Tue May 29 22:13:06 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:13:06 -0500 Subject: HW: Warrior Differences Message-ID: So... all this talk of WOTEOT makes me desire some definitive answers about the different versions of this album. It is claimed by Brian Tawn that the UK LP has a longer, different mix of "Kings of Speed" than does the US Atco LP. Also "Assault and Battery" are supposed to be separate tracks on the UK album as opposed to the US one. Anyone? Can anyone confirm or deny this? I have an original UK Warrior LP and I have the Griffin CD (mastered from the US Atco tapes) and haven't really detected any differences. Now what's this business about the vinyl being a half-step higher in pitch than the CD? I used to have a vinyl Atco and the Dojo CD (mastered from UK vinyl) but no longer have either, so I don't have the full opportunity for definitive comparisons. As is well known, not all of the HW CD's are the same as the vinyl... PXR 5 being a case in point, with totally different vocal tracks and mixes on the last couple of songs, depending on whether you're listening to the vinyl or the CD. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue May 29 23:25:46 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Dong ChongTong) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:25:46 -0600 Subject: HW: Warrior Differences In-Reply-To: <000f01c0e8ae$10a3d5e0$e7d1b718@cc177845c> Message-ID: Dear John.... while being a collecter, I am not an authority on the differences..... I used to know more, before I started aging and forgetting. I CAN say, however, that from MY OWN opionion, almost NO 2 different pressings sound EXACTLY the same in pitch, etc. When it comes to pressing runs however, these may largely be the same. The USA Promo copy(ies) of the Warrior, have a banded groove between the ABP1 and ABP2, for DJ's to be able to pick it into 2 parts.. >From my memory, THAT part of the LP doesn't "fade out", however when you play it. There are actually 2 different USA promos, if anyone wants to dig.....there are ones that are ACTUALLY marked as DJ copies on the white label, then there are white label copies that are NOT marked DJ on the label, which are simply "Promo's".... They are all, the same thing, really....... regarding the Kings....there are (I believe) slightly differing "versions" of many of the singles, spread through the presses, and matrix run-offs, that I believe, go largely un-noticed. I bet the "Kings" version is something like another USA one Versus a UK one, or something like that.... all speculation "out loud" however.... maybe more info shall come.... mike c From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Tue May 29 22:26:10 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 22:26:10 -0400 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: From: "John H. McCartney" > The opening seconds of the first Hawks song I ever heard, when I dropped > the needle on side 1 of Warrior, 25 years on...er, ago. It was pretty much the first albums I heard, Space Ritual and ISOS. Songs that come to mind are 7 seconds of forever, orgone accumulator and Hassan I sabba (QSC - favorite when using a glass for smoking). Jerry From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 29 22:47:29 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:17:29 +0930 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: That is a beauty hey ----- Original Message ----- From: John H. McCartney To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 2:44 AM Subject: Re: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind > The opening seconds of the first Hawks song I ever heard, when I dropped > the needle on side 1 of Warrior, 25 years on...er, ago. > > > scorch > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 29 22:59:42 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:29:42 +0930 Subject: Is this a hoax??? Message-ID: Garry Glitter is a frickin gay peodofile poodle molesterer ?? Damn Rumors ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bradley To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:06 AM Subject: Re: BEWARE of emails containing subject - A Virtual Card for You - Virusy things -READ > It's a hoax... again > > If anyone had bothered to check cnn.com or microsoft.com we wouldn't > be forced to receive more of this trash. www.snopes.com is also a > good source to check before passing Urban Legends around > > Bill From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 29 23:27:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:57:27 +0930 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: Checking for hairs ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:15 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > the good joe: > > "I've just snaffled meself a vinyl Warrior and I have a 'hair' on mine, I > think. Up in the upper right corner of the front cover is a yellowish-orangey > 'hair' running from the corner to almost the d in Hawkwind. (Ennyone else > notice that the LP is a half-step higher, music-wise, than the CD?)" > > congrats Joe.... > apparently you are now among the owners of the VERY ORIGINAL warrior. > > You describe the hair properly. > > In mine, it is usually an off-whitish color, but maybe I am colorblind, and > you do describe the exact location. > > which warrior CD are you comparing, as the UK one differs to the USA, and > I wouldn't doubt if they all differ in some ways...... > but I think the generally accepted stance would be that the UK version is > made from a UK vinyl source, and the USA one is made from master tapes of > the USA version, which probably is a half step different..... > > I await the truth..... > > or anything anyone cares to say.... > > mike > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 29 23:33:58 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:03:58 +0930 Subject: Off dribble in my socks Message-ID: Ohhh joy - I'm a guaranteed cash prize winner at free lotto hee heee hee From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 30 00:36:53 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Yum Yum Veggies) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 22:36:53 -0600 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors In-Reply-To: <00d201c0e8b8$745f4100$f0cb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: Michael B:"Checking for hairs" since you have a USA copy....I ask, with what?? eyes? mouth?? and where??? your own??? someone elses??? NNOTP...Viv Akauldren (whatever that early LP with the bonus 7" is that is buried in my house somewhere) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue May 29 23:47:12 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:17:12 +0930 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: No no no Checking to see if the ole pubic hairs are visible yet STILL waiting LOL So only the UK Warriors are Hairy? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Yum Yum Veggies To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 2:06 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > Michael B:"Checking for hairs" > > since you have a USA copy....I ask, with what?? > > eyes? mouth?? and where??? > > your own??? someone elses??? > > NNOTP...Viv Akauldren (whatever that early LP with the bonus 7" is that is > buried in my house somewhere) From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Wed May 30 01:33:59 2001 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 07:33:59 +0200 Subject: AW: HW: tour programmes Message-ID: Hi Denis >Space Ritual 1972 >Winter 1974-1975 >In Concert 1976 >Astounding Tour 1976 >Quark Tour 1977 >Hawklords Tour 1978 >Winter 1979 >Levitation Tour 1980 >Glastonbury 1981 >Sonic Attac Tour 1981 >Monemore Festival 1982 >Monsters Of Rock 1982 >Choose Your Masks Tour1982 >Earth Ritual Tour 1984 >Live Chronicles Tour 1985 >Reading Festival 1986 >Mad Docs Laboratory Tour 1988 >Pentrich Festival 1995 >Langtree Festival 1996 >>Thanks a lot Bernhard! If you are interested, I have JPG-files from all above programes I did the pics with my digi-cam cheers Bernhard Disclaimer 1. This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. 2. If you as intended recipient have received this e-mail incorrectly, please notify the sender (via e-mail) immediately. This e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. DSM does not guarantee that the information sent and/or received by or with this e-mail is correct and does not accept any liability for damages related thereto. From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed May 30 02:15:43 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 06:15:43 -0000 Subject: OFF: Record Shops Glasgow and Inverness Message-ID: >From: david hall >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: OFF: Record Shops Glasgow and Inverness >Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:48:56 +0100 > >Don't miss Byres Road shops: >FOPP >Echo >Lost in Music > >Join me for a pint? > >Dave >-----Original Message----- >From: Rich Warren >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Date: 20 May 2001 17:19 >Subject: OFF: Record Shops Glasgow and Inverness > > > >OK Guys. Enlighten Me. I'm visiting Glasgow and Inverness. Any good >shops? > >The only one I know in Glasgow is Tower. > >> >Rich W > >sanctuary,keith,kirk,isla strath,fetler,preston,orrel,kirkyetholm, coldstream,ve skerry,hasketh,corekinlock,+moterhead was done by hawkwind, _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed May 30 02:24:16 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:24:16 +0800 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: Got no hairs on mine. Mine's perfect! Don't want no mother expletive hairs on my expletive album cover anyway. Hey guys and gals, next time I'm down the rubbish tip I'll look for any album covers with dog shit, vomit and gravy on them. Kollectors items for sure.... Muhahahahahahaha (insane laughter) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mich at el B" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > Checking for hairs > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mike c > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:15 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > > > > the good joe: > > > > "I've just snaffled meself a vinyl Warrior and I have a 'hair' on mine, I > > think. Up in the upper right corner of the front cover is a > yellowish-orangey > > 'hair' running from the corner to almost the d in Hawkwind. (Ennyone else > > notice that the LP is a half-step higher, music-wise, than the CD?)" > > > > congrats Joe.... > > apparently you are now among the owners of the VERY ORIGINAL warrior. > > > > You describe the hair properly. > > > > In mine, it is usually an off-whitish color, but maybe I am colorblind, > and > > you do describe the exact location. > > > > which warrior CD are you comparing, as the UK one differs to the USA, and > > I wouldn't doubt if they all differ in some ways...... > > but I think the generally accepted stance would be that the UK version is > > made from a UK vinyl source, and the USA one is made from master tapes of > > the USA version, which probably is a half step different..... > > > > I await the truth..... > > > > or anything anyone cares to say.... > > > > mike > > > From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed May 30 02:48:25 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 06:48:25 -0000 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: hair ones remind me of masters of the universe ,the 1 of 3 ,with shot down in the knight ,and angels of death ,as to the warrior on the edge of time album ,the vinal i used to have a siloett black knight on a cliff edge , can only play cd s now ,thanks ,trying to get all of hawkwinds cronicle of the black sword, seems imposible black sword on blue cover.tell me more maybe trade.ditty deepist purple thin lizzy magnum ???????? ect why >From: Bill & Cynthia >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors >Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:24:16 +0800 > >Got no hairs on mine. Mine's perfect! Don't want no mother expletive hairs >on my expletive album cover anyway. > >Hey guys and gals, next time I'm down the rubbish tip I'll look for any >album covers with dog shit, vomit and gravy on them. Kollectors items for >sure.... > >Muhahahahahahaha (insane laughter) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mich at el B" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:27 AM >Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > > > > Checking for hairs > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mike c > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:15 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > > > > > > > the good joe: > > > > > > "I've just snaffled meself a vinyl Warrior and I have a 'hair' on >mine, >I > > > think. Up in the upper right corner of the front cover is a > > yellowish-orangey > > > 'hair' running from the corner to almost the d in Hawkwind. (Ennyone >else > > > notice that the LP is a half-step higher, music-wise, than the CD?)" > > > > > > congrats Joe.... > > > apparently you are now among the owners of the VERY ORIGINAL warrior. > > > > > > You describe the hair properly. > > > > > > In mine, it is usually an off-whitish color, but maybe I am >colorblind, > > and > > > you do describe the exact location. > > > > > > which warrior CD are you comparing, as the UK one differs to the USA, >and > > > I wouldn't doubt if they all differ in some ways...... > > > but I think the generally accepted stance would be that the UK version >is > > > made from a UK vinyl source, and the USA one is made from master tapes >of > > > the USA version, which probably is a half step different..... > > > > > > I await the truth..... > > > > > > or anything anyone cares to say.... > > > > > > mike > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 30 04:03:18 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Yum Yum Veggies) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 02:03:18 -0600 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: KK asks: "hair ones remind me of masters of the universe ,the 1 of 3 ,with shot down in the knight ,and angels of death ,as to the warrior on the edge of time album ,the vinal i used to have a siloett black knight on a cliff edge , can only play cd s now ,thanks ,trying to get all of hawkwinds Hey, My first experience was hearing WOTEOT on a poor quality home recorded tape. It was still mind blowing enough to get me hooked. The mate who lent me that tape was also passing some Uriah Heep to me at the same time. This was back in 1977. Not long afterwards I got to see the Hawks live for the first time as a 15 year old. The rest of the music world didn't stand a chance after that! The likes of Sabbath and Motorhead got the occassional listen in those days but.... Immediately I was out scouring record shops with only one group on my mind. Mark From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Wed May 30 03:08:53 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 03:08:53 -0400 Subject: HW: Family Tree. Message-ID: On Tue, 29 May 2001 16:46:46 +0100, rob burton wrote: [snip] Rob, I must agree; buy the album. I bought it a few weeks ago and was immediately impressed. The non-HW non-Dave stuff is really powerful. But after all it is HW (in one form or another). Hope they can bring all of these elements together, add in the extra new components,use some of the guest genius and lay down a brand new full group album (and get it out soon. Mark From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 30 05:24:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (MuHaHaHaHaHaHa!!) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 03:24:57 -0600 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors In-Reply-To: <004201c0e8d1$27e805a0$89b23bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: Australia: "Got no hairs on mine. Mine's perfect! Don't want no mother expletive hairs on my expletive album cover anyway. Hey guys and gals, next time I'm down the rubbish tip I'll look for any album covers with dog shit, vomit and gravy on them. Kollectors items for sure.... Muhahahahahahaha (insane laughter)" not so fast guys (and gals)...... Michael B's copy has no hair, but his demons make him less than happy by putting a sticker price tag removal on his........ Yours is the washed out Australian copy, which, like Micheals USA copy, has a tracklisting FONT distinct to your country, as Micheals has ours. He has the advantage of nice coloring to his, and a "mediocre" to "downside" sound quality, while yours has "Fair" to "poor" quality, due to Festival records being made out of recycled vinyl (supposedly)....and most of them have great crackle, pops, and various imperfectness......(but the WORST OF ALL, is the Festival one was colored by ink that will desolve if you hold it in one spot too long from your hand........and is very faded looking to start) No need to battle the street rodents at the refuse depository, as this whole thread relates to the "SHIMMERING HEIGHTS OF THE SHINING GRAIL OF HAIRLESS MAJESTY" it's just a re-issue anyway...... no matter what you have, there can always be a passage to the great "less than happy"........ m PS..I am eventually having my "homeboy" print some repo's of the Orange USA Promo sticker, that came on the VERY RARE USA non-DJ promo. I will send you one to use as a bandage on that wounded bitch of yours Michael. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 30 05:31:04 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (MuHaHaHaHaHaHa!!) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 03:31:04 -0600 Subject: HW:(OFF) Hairy Warriors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OH AND... I forgot the most important thing... NEITHER OF YOUR WARRIORS FOLD OUT INTO THE CHAOS SHIELD!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH better book a record-fair on your list of activities this weekend..(you hope) The above is for Bill, Renee, Michael, and Cynthia....... From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Wed May 30 09:50:10 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:50:10 -0400 Subject: tour programmes In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010529213305.009f9080@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: The only other one I have that you haven't mentioned is QS&C '77. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Denis Regenbrecht Sent: 29 May 2001 15:44 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: tour programmes Hi, I'm planning to upload scans of all HW-programmes onto my homepage (already have 78 Hawklords, 79 MotU, 80 Levitation up in the Gigs section). Beside those already mentioned I know that there were programmes for the 76 ASAM, 81 Sonic Attack, 82 CYM and 84 Earth Ritual tours. I'm sure there were more. So if anyone could tell me what programmes exist I'd very grateful. BTW, does the booklet of the Atomhenge CD really contain the whole ASAM programme? thanx in advance & (c)IAO D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Wed May 30 05:16:26 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:16:26 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: Okay, so who's gonna be in Newcastle week of 10th June to go out for a drink? Also, possible Hawkwind gig at The Opera House on 14th November..........anyone interested? Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: John H. McCartney To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:44 AM Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > I think the scariest thing about this is that I understood it! > > > > scorch > From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed May 30 05:34:51 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:34:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: Hi Doug, I'm pretty much 100% sure that Rob Heaton also played Bristol Locarno with hawkwind before or after Stonehenge. Hawkwind were advertised to play but apartently the band knew nothing of the gig. But seeing as all the tickets were sold the band came up to Bristol and played. Don't think the band got paid a penny for it ( now where have a heard about that recently MMmmm). Suffice to say due to the happy atmosphere in the crowd we didn't notice Rob being particularly bad or good. regards iain Doug Pearson wrote: > On Tue, 29 May 2001 21:52:45 +0800, William Duffy wrote: > >I really like the last few tracks on the album, Sword of the East > >(one of my favourite HW tracks) & Good Evening. > > I'm not a big fan of 'Xenon Codex' (Danny Thompson's drumming being one of > several reasons), but I think that "Good Evening" is one of the most > interesting HW tracks ever, and possibly the best things they did in the > 80's. > > ... and ... iain ferguson wrote: > >In that case John Clark was the worst drummer hawkwind ever had > > > >It sounds so much like Danny playing that i assumed it was him. > > Rob Heaton (who also played on the 'Earth Ritual Preview' EP) was also an > awful drummer. Fortunately, he only played one gig with Hawkwind > (Stonehenge '83), which has the worst drumming I've *ever* heard on a live > Hawkwind recording. Hearing him play straight through the drop out breaks > in "Master of the Universe" had me ROTFLMAO. He would top my list for > Hawkwind's worst-ever drummer by virtue of that show ... > > >Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > > > >> Danny Thompson didn't play the drums on NotH. It was John Clark. > > > > ... > > > >I thought Gingers drums were great on Levitation, > > Me, too. Very solid, and they work well with the glassy/pristine digital > recording of the album. Unlike 'Masques' and 'XC', where the drumming is > completely unable to overcome the god-awful 80's production techniques that > made the drums on most 80's recordings (not just HW) sound so horrible. > > >I saw him at bristol on the 1980 tour and he did a drum solo !!!!! > >The booing from the audience was great but that turned to huge > >laughter when his big gong behind him fell from the stand as he hit it !! > >very very spinal tap > > I wish I had seen THAT! > > Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > >BTW, I wonder what way HW would have gone, if Harvey had been fired and > >Jack Bruce brought in as his replacement, as mentioned in Kris' book. > > Probably the same thing that happened to every band Bruce and Baker were in > together, starting with Graham Bond's, which broke up when one of them (I > *think* it was Ginger) pulled a knife on the other (Harvey got off easy!). > Would've made the worst Dave/Nik/Lemmy/Bob rows (or even the infamous > Moorcock/Calvert backstage punchup) look like old ladies arguing over > proper flatware arrangements at tea-time. > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed May 30 05:38:55 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:38:55 +0100 Subject: HW: tour programmes Message-ID: OH Lord, Now you've taken me back... We played that game ONCE !!!!!!!! It nearly killed us all HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA definately a game to be taken over a couple of days IMO. If you've seen iot you'll know why God that toke me back..... iain mike c wrote: > dear Nick.... > > That 88 program is great. That is the one. It is actually one of the > rarest (I think), if not THE rarest (I think) programe.(regular > programs),,aside of maybe the Space Ritual pamphlet. > > I love the doodle of Nik, where it says "Bring me the head of Nik Turner". > Also, I think the game pieces, which are stickers, are intended to serve a > dual purpose, of being usable to make tape "tags" (again, could be in error) > > nevertheless, it's nice. > > mc From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed May 30 05:50:28 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:50:28 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: Hey, And don't forget he thumps the tubs for Reprazent as well ( top band ) And another bristol band !!! There was a time when coming from Bristol on your band CV was the equivellent of having dog poo on your shoes at margo leadbetters house ( the good life) Top drummer, top bloke... regards iain Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > Hi, > > >FWIW my favorite Hawkwind drummer between Simon King and Richard Chadwick > >(this might be a good "poll" question since there's about 18 different > >possibilities!) is Clive Deamer (he SMOKES on the 4/26/85 ECT set, and > >effortlessly blows away Danny Thompson on 'Undisclosed Files'). > > I second that, he's very good. Anyone knows why he got sacked/left the band? > BTW, a weird coincidence IMO is, that both Portishead (where Clive Deamer > plays nowadays) and Hawkwind have songs that are very similar/derived > to/from Gustav Holst's "Mars, bringer of War" of his Planets Suite. > > (c)IAO > > D+R From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 30 06:31:22 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:31:22 +0100 Subject: HW: tour programmes In-Reply-To: Denis Regenbrecht's message of Tue, 29 May 2001 21:43:49 +0200 Message-ID: Denis Regenbrecht writes: > I'm planning to upload scans of all HW-programmes onto my homepage > (already have 78 Hawklords, 79 MotU, 80 Levitation up in the Gigs > section). Beside those already mentioned I know that there were > programmes for the 76 ASAM, 81 Sonic Attack, 82 CYM and 84 Earth > Ritual tours. I'm sure there were more. So if anyone could tell me > what programmes exist I'd very grateful. There was a Space Ritual, A Warrior, another 1976 one, one from Reading '86 a "Monsters of Rock" one from somewhere. I also have an Oval Cricket Ground one from the early 70's and there are a few more from that era kicking around. I think bernhard has at least one of them. If anyone has a spare, I'm still looking for the "In Concert" 1976 one. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 30 06:33:50 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:33:50 +0100 Subject: HW: tour programmes In-Reply-To: Bernhard Pospiech's message of Tue, 29 May 2001 22:26:03 +0200 Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech writes: > Space Ritual 1972 > Winter 1974-1975 This is the "Warrior" one? > In Concert 1976 > Astounding Tour 1976 > Quark Tour 1977 > Hawklords Tour 1978 > Winter 1979 "Masters of the Universe"? > Levitation Tour 1980 > Glastonbury 1981 Just recently nailed that one as I'd lost my copy from the original event. > Sonic Attack Tour 1981 > Monemore Festival 1982 > Monsters Of Rock 1982 > Choose Your Masks Tour1982 > Earth Ritual Tour 1984 > Live Chronicles Tour 1985 > Reading Festival 1986 > Mad Docs Laboratory Tour 1988 > Pentrich Festival 1995 > Langtree Festival 1996 Anyone got spares of these last 3? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 30 06:36:23 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:36:23 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Tue, 29 May 2001 22:10:44 +0100 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > Turner's Hawkmob-double live CD from last year - theoretically July but > knowing the label it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't leave it until the > all-dayer on Aug 12th What all-dayer? FoFP From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed May 30 06:39:44 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:39:44 +0100 Subject: HW: tour programmes Message-ID: Hi folks, If your going to include the Glastonbury one, then you'd better include the Treworgy festival one as well ( and I have one ) yipee !!! Anyone got a good recording of this ? i'll have some swaps soon. I heard there was an official video of this, anyone got a copy for sale ? regards Iain M Holmes wrote: > Bernhard Pospiech writes: > > > Space Ritual 1972 > > Winter 1974-1975 > > This is the "Warrior" one? > > > In Concert 1976 > > Astounding Tour 1976 > > Quark Tour 1977 > > Hawklords Tour 1978 > > Winter 1979 > > "Masters of the Universe"? > > > Levitation Tour 1980 > > Glastonbury 1981 > > Just recently nailed that one as I'd lost my copy from the original > event. > > > Sonic Attack Tour 1981 > > Monemore Festival 1982 > > Monsters Of Rock 1982 > > Choose Your Masks Tour1982 > > Earth Ritual Tour 1984 > > Live Chronicles Tour 1985 > > Reading Festival 1986 > > Mad Docs Laboratory Tour 1988 > > Pentrich Festival 1995 > > Langtree Festival 1996 > > Anyone got spares of these last 3? > > FoFP From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Wed May 30 06:38:36 2001 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:38:36 +0200 Subject: AW: HW: tour programmes Message-ID: Hi >> Space Ritual 1972 >> Winter 1974-1975 >This is the "Warrior" one? Yes >> In Concert 1976 >> Astounding Tour 1976 >> Quark Tour 1977 >> Hawklords Tour 1978 >> Winter 1979 >"Masters of the Universe"? Yes Bernhard Disclaimer 1. This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. 2. If you as intended recipient have received this e-mail incorrectly, please notify the sender (via e-mail) immediately. This e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. DSM does not guarantee that the information sent and/or received by or with this e-mail is correct and does not accept any liability for damages related thereto. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 30 06:41:11 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:41:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Warrior Differences In-Reply-To: John Majka's message of Tue, 29 May 2001 21:13:06 -0500 Message-ID: John Majka writes: > So... all this talk of WOTEOT makes me desire some definitive answers about > the different versions of this album. It is claimed by Brian Tawn that the > UK LP has a longer, different mix of "Kings of Speed" than does the US Atco > LP. Also "Assault and Battery" are supposed to be separate tracks on the UK > album as opposed to the US one. Anyone? Can anyone confirm or deny this? > I have an original UK Warrior LP and I have the Griffin CD (mastered from > the US Atco tapes) and haven't really detected any differences. Now what's > this business about the vinyl being a half-step higher in pitch than the CD? > I used to have a vinyl Atco and the Dojo CD (mastered from UK vinyl) but no > longer have either, so I don't have the full opportunity for definitive > comparisons. As is well known, not all of the HW CD's are the same as the > vinyl... PXR 5 being a case in point, with totally different vocal tracks > and mixes on the last couple of songs, depending on whether you're listening > to the vinyl or the CD. Eh? I checked this for the codex and only the High Rise track is different. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 30 06:43:52 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:43:52 +0100 Subject: AW: HW: tour programmes In-Reply-To: Pospiech, Bernhard's message of Wed, 30 May 2001 07:33:59 +0200 Message-ID: Pospiech, Bernhard writes: > Hi Denis > > > > >Space Ritual 1972 > >Winter 1974-1975 > >In Concert 1976 > >Astounding Tour 1976 > >Quark Tour 1977 > >Hawklords Tour 1978 > >Winter 1979 > >Levitation Tour 1980 > >Glastonbury 1981 > >Sonic Attac Tour 1981 > >Monemore Festival 1982 > >Monsters Of Rock 1982 > >Choose Your Masks Tour1982 > >Earth Ritual Tour 1984 > >Live Chronicles Tour 1985 > >Reading Festival 1986 > >Mad Docs Laboratory Tour 1988 > >Pentrich Festival 1995 > >Langtree Festival 1996 > > >>Thanks a lot Bernhard! > > If you are interested, I have JPG-files from all above programes > I did the pics with my digi-cam Could you email me piccies of the last 3 please? FoFP From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Wed May 30 06:42:44 2001 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:42:44 +0200 Subject: AW: HW: tour programmes Message-ID: Hi >If your going to include the Glastonbury one, then you'd better include >the Treworgy festival one as well ( and I have one ) yipee !!! >Anyone got a good recording of this ? i'll have some swaps soon. >I heard there was an official video of this, anyone got a copy for sale >? Yep, I've got 2 different versions on video Bernhard Disclaimer 1. This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. 2. If you as intended recipient have received this e-mail incorrectly, please notify the sender (via e-mail) immediately. This e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. DSM does not guarantee that the information sent and/or received by or with this e-mail is correct and does not accept any liability for damages related thereto. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 30 06:47:09 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:47:09 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Wed, 30 May 2001 10:16:26 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > Okay, so who's gonna be in Newcastle week of 10th June to go out for a > drink? I would Kris, but with Hawick Common Riding having been cancelled due to FMD, I'll be in Aberdeen rather than the Borders. Next time.... > Also, possible Hawkwind gig at The Opera House on 14th > November..........anyone interested? I'll get my masque... > Kris FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 30 07:48:44 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Yum Yum Veggies) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 05:48:44 -0600 Subject: HW: tour programmes In-Reply-To: <200105301031.LAA19762@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: "If anyone has a spare, I'm still looking for the "In Concert" 1976 one". Mike..... which color??? colour??? Pierre's is red. there IS a WARRIOR program?????? I must not sleep this week???? please explain. also, I remember there was a "bickershaw" festival one....that boasted about the color film they were going to use to capture the "Space Opera" or something..... awake! From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Wed May 30 06:46:59 2001 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:46:59 +0200 Subject: AW: AW: HW: tour programmes Message-ID: Hi Mike > Hi Denis > > > > >Space Ritual 1972 > >Winter 1974-1975 > >In Concert 1976 > >Astounding Tour 1976 > >Quark Tour 1977 > >Hawklords Tour 1978 > >Winter 1979 > >Levitation Tour 1980 > >Glastonbury 1981 > >Sonic Attac Tour 1981 > >Monemore Festival 1982 > >Monsters Of Rock 1982 > >Choose Your Masks Tour1982 > >Earth Ritual Tour 1984 > >Live Chronicles Tour 1985 > >Reading Festival 1986 > >Mad Docs Laboratory Tour 1988 > >Pentrich Festival 1995 > >Langtree Festival 1996 > > >>Thanks a lot Bernhard! > > If you are interested, I have JPG-files from all above programes > I did the pics with my digi-cam >Could you email me piccies of the last 3 please? OK, will do it later this day cheers Bernhard Disclaimer 1. This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. 2. If you as intended recipient have received this e-mail incorrectly, please notify the sender (via e-mail) immediately. This e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. DSM does not guarantee that the information sent and/or received by or with this e-mail is correct and does not accept any liability for damages related thereto. From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Wed May 30 07:42:03 2001 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:42:03 +0200 Subject: AW: HW: tour programmes Message-ID: Hi >>"If anyone has a spare, I'm still looking for the "In Concert" 1976 one". >Mike..... >which color??? colour??? >Pierre's is red. I've got an orange one >there IS a WARRIOR program?????? >I must not sleep this week???? Do not panic. I am sure you have got this one. It's the brown one with the indian head on the front cover >also, I remember there was a "bickershaw" festival one.... Yes, it was offered at EBAY a couple of weeks ago. Bernhard Disclaimer 1. This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. 2. If you as intended recipient have received this e-mail incorrectly, please notify the sender (via e-mail) immediately. This e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. DSM does not guarantee that the information sent and/or received by or with this e-mail is correct and does not accept any liability for damages related thereto. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed May 30 07:47:37 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:47:37 +0800 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: Muhahahahaha said: > not so fast guys (and gals)...... > > Michael B's copy has no hair, but his demons make him less than happy by > putting a sticker price tag removal on his........ This used to annoy the hell out of me. Only when retailers placed records in plastic did the album covers be free of such vandalism. > > Yours is the washed out Australian copy, which, like Micheals USA copy, has > a tracklisting FONT distinct to your country, as Micheals has ours. Mine looks washed out cos it's 26 years old. Matter of fact I looked pretty washed out at 26. Like WotEoT I survived a few parties as well. > He has the advantage of nice coloring to his, and a "mediocre" to > "downside" sound quality, while yours has "Fair" to "poor" quality, due to > Festival records being made out of recycled vinyl (supposedly)....and most > of them have great crackle, pops, and various imperfectness......(but the > WORST OF ALL, is the Festival one was colored by ink that will desolve if > you hold it in one spot too long from your hand........and is very faded > looking to start) Can't say I've noticed any imperfections in the sound quality. Then, I haven't got anything to compare it with. It's a bit like watching a video of a movie and everyone tells you the big screen is better. You don't know because you weren't there! I suppose Festival Records Australia could go down in history as the first enviromentally friendly company to recycle vinyl. Bill From john.cartledge at SUNDERLAND.AC.UK Wed May 30 07:50:03 2001 From: john.cartledge at SUNDERLAND.AC.UK (John Cartledge) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:50:03 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: Oi, there's nowt wrong with Sunderland you know! You're only jealous cos we have a better football team! Bloody Geordies ;-) As for the Opera House in Nov, count me in (plus several others). John (returning to lurk mode) Layla Thompson wrote: > SUNDERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > ARE YOU COMPLETELY DAFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????? > > DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT I AM THAT STUPID!!! > > BLOODY SUNDERLAND!! > > Aye, Ahm a Geordie........... so PLEASE divvent insult me by telling me tha yee thowt Ah lived in Sunderland!!!! I'd rortha be hung up by me toes an bled te death than live there..... an yee knaa tha git well Ahm sure!!!! > > Of aal the blooming cheek!!! > > lmao!! > > Layla. xx (THE Geordie Lass!!!!) > > >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/29/01 12:02pm >>> > XXX writes: > > > Hey Layla are you a Geordie? > > Do you still live in Newcastle? > > Let's do a scientific test: > > I heard Layla moved to Sunderland... > > FoFP --------------------------------------------------------- Systems Programmer School Of Computing, Engineering & Technology University Of Sunderland Email : John.Cartledge at sunderland.ac.uk England Tel : 0191 5153638 --------------------------------------------------------- From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed May 30 07:56:01 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:56:01 +0800 Subject: HW:(OFF) Hairy Warriors Message-ID: Muhaha said > OH AND... > > I forgot the most important thing... > > NEITHER OF YOUR WARRIORS FOLD OUT INTO THE CHAOS SHIELD!!!!!! > Is it the UK one with the chaos shield? > > AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH > > better book a record-fair on your list of activities this weekend..(you hope) > That used to be a real hobby of mine. Haven't done it for ages. Alas I work weekends. I'll just have to get all yours..... Bill From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 30 09:05:37 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Yum Yum Veggies) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 07:05:37 -0600 Subject: AW: HW: tour programmes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "I've got an orange one" excuse Bernard, my friends is orange as well/// think I heard there were colors though....like the dutch SM singles.... maybe I heard wrong.... I have another old program around that I know is valuable.... when it appears, I'll swap it...... Mike....who is DEAD from being up too long, will go....... From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 30 09:19:33 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Yum Yum Veggies) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 07:19:33 -0600 Subject: HW:(OFF) Hairy Warriors In-Reply-To: <006f01c0e8ff$80578de0$49b43bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: >Is it the UK one with the chaos shield? basically yes. But theres the German one that I personally have a love affair with, maybe because they titled the spine, and there are other countries that come with a UK sleeve, then there are ones I haven't been privelleged to yet. "I'll just have to get all yours..." this soon will be a real possibility..... not only the warriors, but the all of thems.... are you 2 any good babysitting 36 year olds ????? where they go....I go. I was only joking you with all this you know...... not sure about the recycled vinyl, but I recall an Australian dealer telling me to not try too hard to get a great one, as they used bad vinyl of SOME kind. I didn't say "I" didn't LIKE the "WAY" it sounds...... One of my 3 played pretty good. Let me know when your ready to "Upgrade" to a shield..... If that Aussie sleeve is nice, no ring, no sloth saliva stains.... straight swap.... m From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Wed May 30 08:32:44 2001 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:32:44 +0200 Subject: AW: AW: HW: tour programmes Message-ID: Hi Mike C >excuse Bernard, my friends is orange as well/// OK >think I heard there were colors though.... I heard the same >I have another old program around that I know is valuable.... >when it appears, I'll swap it...... Which one ?? Bernhard Disclaimer 1. This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. 2. If you as intended recipient have received this e-mail incorrectly, please notify the sender (via e-mail) immediately. This e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. DSM does not guarantee that the information sent and/or received by or with this e-mail is correct and does not accept any liability for damages related thereto. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 30 09:20:04 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:20:04 -0400 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: Nik & Co are playing an alldayer at Blackpool on August 12th. From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Wed May 30 09:31:16 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:31:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: This list makes my boring life worthwhile. still laughing my socks off at yesterdays abuse by Trev. keep it up. BTW I'm hairless and reissued. rob. >From: "Mich at el B" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors >Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:17:12 +0930 > >No no no > >Checking to see if the ole pubic hairs are visible yet > >STILL waiting LOL > >So only the UK Warriors are Hairy? > >Mb >----- Original Message ----- >From: Yum Yum Veggies >To: >Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 2:06 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > > > > Michael B:"Checking for hairs" > > > > since you have a USA copy....I ask, with what?? > > > > eyes? mouth?? and where??? > > > > your own??? someone elses??? > > > > NNOTP...Viv Akauldren (whatever that early LP with the bonus 7" is that >is > > buried in my house somewhere) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Wed May 30 09:41:56 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:41:56 +0100 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: The first time I heard HW and got hooked it was an x girlfriend who intoduced me to them. She was a dancer and wanted to dance at a HW gig.She'd written to Dave and we went to the CotBS show in Liverpool. We met the band afterwards. I remember Harvey Bainbridge buying us all Tequila Sunrises. On our return she played me CotBS. Still one of my favourite HW lp's even if it is abit 'Spinal Tap'.The next time I went round to her house Alan Davey was there. Well, if you're gonna be dumped for anyone it may as well be a bass playing, song writing all round God. didn't put me off the band though. Rob >From: Mark Von Bargen >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind >Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 03:02:16 -0400 > >Hey, > >My first experience was hearing WOTEOT on a poor quality home recorded >tape. It was still mind blowing enough to get me hooked. > >The mate who lent me that tape was also passing some Uriah Heep to me at >the same time. This was back in 1977. Not long afterwards I got to see the >Hawks live for the first time as a 15 year old. The rest of the music world >didn't stand a chance after that! The likes of Sabbath and Motorhead got >the occassional listen in those days but.... > >Immediately I was out scouring record shops with only one group on my mind. > >Mark _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Wed May 30 09:44:26 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:44:26 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: possibly gig in November as newcastle not far from me. Rob >From: XXX >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens >Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:16:26 +0100 > >Okay, so who's gonna be in Newcastle week of 10th June to go out for a >drink? >Also, possible Hawkwind gig at The Opera House on 14th >November..........anyone interested? >Kris > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: John H. McCartney >To: >Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:44 AM >Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > > > > I think the scariest thing about this is that I understood it! > > > > > > > > scorch > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed May 30 10:20:17 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:20:17 +0800 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: Mark Von Bargen wrote: >Immediately I was out scouring record shops with only one group on my mind. > > Mark > In Search of Space was the album that did it for me. Songs like We Took the Wrong Step Years Ago, Children of the Sun and You Shouldn't Do That, really had me thirsty for more. You're quite right - Hawkwind are a little more than "favourite band status." They become your whole life. An obsession. I first heard ISOS when I was 16 and working as a deckhand on a fishing boat. Now I'm 42 and still as passionate. Bill _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Wed May 30 13:01:54 2001 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:01:54 +0100 Subject: BOC: SFG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The liner notes for St Cecilia suggest that Elektra lost confidence in the band when Les Braunstein's vocals were replaced by Eric Bloom's. But to my ear, there are very few EB lead vocals on the album, apart from 'Donovan's Monkey' and 'I'm on the lamb'. Has anyone got a full list of lead vocalists by track, please? - Mike Godwin From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed May 30 13:12:08 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:12:08 EDT Subject: BOC: SFG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 30 May 2001, at 18:01, Michael R Godwin wrote: > The liner notes for St Cecilia suggest that Elektra lost confidence in > the band when Les Braunstein's vocals were replaced by Eric Bloom's. > But to my ear, there are very few EB lead vocals on the album, apart > from 'Donovan's Monkey' and 'I'm on the lamb'. Has anyone got a full > list of lead vocalists by track, please? > Good point! Sounds to me like Buck takes his share of lead vocals, too. Interesting that Elektra bailed on the band, considering that a lot of shite got released in those days, and that the SFG stuff stands pretty tall against the likes of the Airplane, Quicksiler etc.-- hell it's much better than those, IM[NS]HO... But the disc we're playing now may sound quite a bit different from what the Elektra suits were listening to back then. We have to consider that the remastering probably enhaced the overall impact of the material. Still, a blind horse should have been able to figure out that the band was brimming with talent... theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed May 30 13:17:15 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:17:15 -0400 Subject: BRAIN/BOC: Sinful Love In-Reply-To: <200105291726.f4THQtt07124@shell.acmenet.net> Message-ID: Jason (Bolts of) wrote: > The main riff has a different tempo that the swirliness of the AoF. > More specifically, the rhythm of the track is much "harsher" than AoF in the > sense its gritty, and the chorus has a cool stiltedness to it. The rhythm makes this tune. I agree it's much harsher (more aggressive?) than the AoF version. The horns are a nice addition too. Come to think of it, I've always liked it when tBS have used a horn section or solo.... > What is the lineup for the tune? I dig the guitar solo immensely. Well, it sounds like Al singing (didn't Joe sing this one originally?), and of course playing drums. Deb on bg vocals and guitar. Dave on bass, and I wouldn't be surprised if he played the guitar solo. He was great at the show I saw in Buffalo. And didn't tBS's MP3.com page say there are a couple guest musicans/bg singers? > Thanks for making it availible, Albert! Yes! Thank you. cellsum.com says the tribute album's coming out June 6. Woo hoo! Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Including "Sinful Love" and other Brain Surgeons tunes http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Wed May 30 13:45:57 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:45:57 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: OOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! I would just LOVE for there to be a gig there!!! And I'm sure that I am not alone on that one.............. Layla >>> boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK 05/30/01 10:16am >>> Okay, so who's gonna be in Newcastle week of 10th June to go out for a drink? Also, possible Hawkwind gig at The Opera House on 14th November..........anyone interested? Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: John H. McCartney To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:44 AM Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > I think the scariest thing about this is that I understood it! > > > > scorch > From StevenTice at AOL.COM Wed May 30 14:12:58 2001 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:12:58 EDT Subject: BOC: SFG Message-ID: In a message dated 05/30/2001 1:03:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK writes: > > > > > > The liner notes for St Cecilia suggest that Elektra lost confidence in the > band when Les Braunstein's vocals were replaced by Eric Bloom's. But to my > ear, there are very few EB lead vocals on the album, apart from 'Donovan's > Monkey' and 'I'm on the lamb'. Has anyone got a full list of lead > Hmm, I'm surprised you couldn't tell, Bloom and Roeser sound very different to me...Roeser sings lead on only two tracks on St. Cecilia, "Arthur Comics" and "Bonomo's Turkish Taffy." Bloom does the rest, so the vast majority of the material on the album is sung by Bloom. If you listen closely, it even sounds like Bloom often does his own overdubs rather than other members of the band providing harmony vocals. Perhaps the smoother voice of a younger Bloom is misleading you... Note that the liner notes DO mention this on page 10: "Roeser took over the lead vocals on two songs, 'Arthur Comics' and 'Bonomo's Turkish Taffy', but otherwise Bloom fronted the band on songs that Braunstein had sung only months before." Steven Tice Calliope Comics 519 Valentine Hill Road Bellefonte, PA 16823 814-355-9830 Musings Online: http://calliope.terrashare.com/index.html From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed May 30 14:25:48 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:25:48 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: LOL..mackems always the same. Chip on their shoulder because everyone outside the Northeast, thinks Newcastle United are better. The'yre only extending the metro to sunderland so people can escape easier ;-) (The above statement obviously excludes all Hawkwind Fans) Rich W (An Adopted Geordie) It could be worse though at least you don't live in Carlisle, when was the last Hawkwind gig here 1977!!!! I mean for gods sake they played Workington more recently than that. Blimey I know the audiences are apathetic here but 24 years is a large gap..heh. It must have been a REALLY rough gig!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cartledge" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > Oi, there's nowt wrong with Sunderland you know! You're only jealous cos we have a better football team! Bloody Geordies ;-) > > As for the Opera House in Nov, count me in (plus several others). > > John (returning to lurk mode) > > Layla Thompson wrote: > > > SUNDERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > ARE YOU COMPLETELY DAFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????? > > > > DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT I AM THAT STUPID!!! > > > > BLOODY SUNDERLAND!! > > > > Aye, Ahm a Geordie........... so PLEASE divvent insult me by telling me tha yee thowt Ah lived in Sunderland!!!! I'd rortha be hung up by me toes an bled te death than live there..... an yee knaa tha git well Ahm sure!!!! > > > > Of aal the blooming cheek!!! > > > > lmao!! > > > > Layla. xx (THE Geordie Lass!!!!) > > > > >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/29/01 12:02pm >>> > > XXX writes: > > > > > Hey Layla are you a Geordie? > > > Do you still live in Newcastle? > > > > Let's do a scientific test: > > > > I heard Layla moved to Sunderland... > > > > FoFP > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Systems Programmer > School Of Computing, Engineering & Technology > University Of Sunderland > Email : John.Cartledge at sunderland.ac.uk > England Tel : 0191 5153638 > --------------------------------------------------------- > From starfield at SUPANET.COM Wed May 30 14:27:02 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:27:02 +0100 Subject: Musical Joke? Message-ID: How many bass players does it take to change a light bulb? None - the keyboard player can do it with his left hand! From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Wed May 30 15:36:40 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 15:36:40 -0400 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question Message-ID: OK, that will teach me to go from memory instead of doing some work and actually listening to (and looking at) the releases. > >Although Lord of the Hornets and The Greenfly And The Rose were issued >as a single (Ficknife, double A side) the versions on The Hawkwind >Connection are very different and nowhere near as good as the single >releases. I presume that these actually are the demo versions. > I think the Flicknife single versions of LotH and TGatR are the bonus tracks on the Cleopatra CD reissue of Freq (and the credits on that list Lemmy as playing bass on one of the 2 tracks). The Hawkwind Connection versions of these 2 songs are the same as the versions on the See For Miles CD reissue of Hype (will double-check that tonight). The 'Spirit of the P/Age' Calvert tribute website implies that these 2 tracks appeared on the original Hype vinyl, making them not demo or even single versions but album-release versions. >Messenger/Solstice/Stranger/Steppenwolf sound to me to be exactly the >same versions as appear on the Distances Between Us CD reissue - >Messenger and Solstice are tracked as 2 separate trax on the DBU CD >though they are a continuous piece of music and appear as 1 track here >(presumably taken from the original vinyl). > This is completely wrong - what is called Messenger&Morpheus/Solstice on Hawkwind Connection is just called Messengers of Morpheus (track 4) on the Distances Between Us CD, and later on there is a completely separate piece called Solstice (track 7). The 3 DBU tracks on Hawkwind Connection are the only songs on DBU that have Calvert appearing on them and I still say these are the same versions. >> Good Girl appeared on the BrothelInRS tape and on Friends & >> Relations pt. 1. > I don't know about the "Brothel in Rosenstrasse" tape, but the F&R1 and > Hawkwind Connection versions of this track are not the same. > You're right, Mike Moorcock's vocals are completely different on the 2 versions. The backing (instrumental) track sounds identical to me except that the HC version has an additional second or so at the beginning (the 1-2-3-4 count) and ends a second or so later. Over to you, Stephan From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed May 30 15:39:05 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:39:05 -0000 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: from keith kirk waiting for tomorow when the news does that guy in a landrover going to findout if that beastofthenightisanalian goodnewsversionof two horned demon ,i know they did the awful horror years ago so why are they going to do it again ,what of quark strangeness and charm ,moterhead ,fall of earth city ,thanks dave tez ect nicdicmic stoned ,shouldant do that ,in your area ,hurry on sundown ,paronia ,master of the universe ,brainstorm ,1999 party,tell kilminster o no well it is those days zeredbable zecheria 4 barn kirk not red kirk or burkinhead preston. the end .... >From: ANDREW GARIBALDI >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Nik thoughts >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:37:17 +0100 > >agreed except I would say the Space Ritual is pretty near indispensable >which makes the disappointment of 'Past Or Future' a harder one to explain, >espec ially considering the potentially fantastic track list. >Andy Garibaldi. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Keith Barton" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 2:32 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Nik thoughts > > > > Nick Medford wrote: > > > > > On the subject of Nik: what is the deal with "Nik's Space Ritual", >"Past >or > > > Future", "Prophets Of Time" etc? Could anyone post comments on these > > > albums... I'd like to hear them but I'm a bit too sceptical of the >whole > > > "Nik-rehashes-his-glorious-past...again" bit to just go out on a limb. > > > > My opinions: > > > > Space Ritual - very good. > > Past or Future - get it for the wonderful version of Opa-Loka. > > Prophets Of Time I can take or leave... > > > > Keef _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed May 30 16:09:17 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:09:17 -0400 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: On Tue, 29 May 2001 21:57:56 EDT, Joe Loehr wrote: >My CD is the Griffin one from the Box Set, which says " . . . was >digitally transferred from the Atco master tapes . . .," which means >it's a copy of the US LP, No, it's a copy of the US master tape (actually a second- generation "safety" master, I've been told, which may mean it's one additional generation removed from the UK master tape). It was NOT mastered from vinyl. >whereas the Dojo is a copy of the UK, I guess? Yes, the Dojo is a copy of *a* UK VINYL LP - NOT the master tape, original or safety/backup copy. The UK master tape is apparently missing (even though vinyl copies were being pressed through *at least* the mid-80s - my first copy was a later, post-shield, UK pressing), which would be one reason it wasn't part of EMI's remaster series. To reiterate, the US (Griffin) CD is mastered from an actual master tape, and the UK (Dojo) CD is mastered from vinyl. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed May 30 17:27:56 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 17:27:56 -0400 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: Came back to my dorm room, high as a kite, about a month after I started college (10/84). Turned on the radio, tuned into the campus station (WJHU RIP), just in time to hear the DJ announce, "'Psychedelic Warlords' by Hawkwind". The combination of synthesizer drone & swoosh, funky yet driving rhythm guitar, relentlessly-pummeling bass, random sax bursts, with the gradually-shifting mellotron chords holding things together melodically was like NOTHING I'd heard before. The prog-ish grandeur (without the pomposity and pretensiousness), mind-blowing psychedelia, and two-fingers- to-society punk/DIY ethic & direct musical simplicity was exactly the kind of music I didn't even know I was looking for. Took the bus downtown the next day to scope out the used record shops and came back with copies of 'Space Ritual', 'Roadhawks' and 'Live 79'. Within a couple years, my Hawkwind LP connection numbered about 40. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed May 30 16:20:31 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:20:31 -0400 Subject: OFF: Spam, but good spam Message-ID: We're pleased to announce that, at long last, the FLUORESCENT TUNNELVISION compilation has finally arrived back from the manufacturer. This release has all EXCLUSIVE tracks by Faust, Mushroom, Circle, Djam Karet, Escapade, Quarkspace, F/i, Volcano the Bear, SubArachnoid Space, and many others. You can get a full band listing as well as place an order for this release at our webpage, listed below. ************************************************ SUBMERGENCE MUSIC Adventures for the ear & soul http://www.motherwest.com/submergence/home.html ************************************************ From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 30 17:39:14 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:39:14 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "XXX" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > Okay, so who's gonna be in Newcastle week of 10th June to go out for a > drink? > Also, possible Hawkwind gig at The Opera House on 14th > November..........anyone interested? > Kris > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John H. McCartney > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:44 AM > Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > > > > I think the scariest thing about this is that I understood it! > > > > > > > > scorch > > > From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 30 17:39:47 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:39:47 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: Ready to ring GNER booking office right now! ----- Original Message ----- From: "XXX" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > Okay, so who's gonna be in Newcastle week of 10th June to go out for a > drink? > Also, possible Hawkwind gig at The Opera House on 14th > November..........anyone interested? > Kris > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John H. McCartney > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:44 AM > Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > > > > I think the scariest thing about this is that I understood it! > > > > > > > > scorch > > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 30 17:58:13 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:58:13 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: Blackpool Winter Gdns Aug 12th headlined by Turner's mob posing as H******d circa '70 plus String Driven Thing's main man, some obscure group called The Body fom way back, a guy from Tractor, and a whole load of other acts they've 'dug up' for the occasion - and technically the CD Services Sales stand if we can get enough stock together by then (all disapppeared when the recent cat came out). Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:36 AM Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > > Turner's Hawkmob-double live CD from last year - theoretically July but > > knowing the label it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't leave it until the > > all-dayer on Aug 12th > > What all-dayer? > > FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 30 17:53:43 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:53:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Differences Message-ID: probably just my ears but while it is well known that the German Repetoire version of the first album on CD is better by a long way than the One Way label version, I will swear blind that it is better sound than the EMI remaster. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Majka" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:13 AM Subject: HW: Warrior Differences > So... all this talk of WOTEOT makes me desire some definitive answers about > the different versions of this album. It is claimed by Brian Tawn that the > UK LP has a longer, different mix of "Kings of Speed" than does the US Atco > LP. Also "Assault and Battery" are supposed to be separate tracks on the UK > album as opposed to the US one. Anyone? Can anyone confirm or deny this? > I have an original UK Warrior LP and I have the Griffin CD (mastered from > the US Atco tapes) and haven't really detected any differences. Now what's > this business about the vinyl being a half-step higher in pitch than the CD? > I used to have a vinyl Atco and the Dojo CD (mastered from UK vinyl) but no > longer have either, so I don't have the full opportunity for definitive > comparisons. As is well known, not all of the HW CD's are the same as the > vinyl... PXR 5 being a case in point, with totally different vocal tracks > and mixes on the last couple of songs, depending on whether you're listening > to the vinyl or the CD. > > John Majka > jmajka2 at home.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed May 30 18:15:10 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 23:15:10 +0100 Subject: HW: off topic Message-ID: To one and all - is there someone on this list waiting for me at CD Services to mail to them a copy of the new Magma 3CD box set - it's just that we have it back now and one spare that we can't think who on earth it was for!!! If so, just mail me at: agcdser at aol.com Thanks alot, Andy G (CDS) From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Wed May 30 18:12:14 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 23:12:14 +0100 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: Yeh! These Geordie sirens must be something special. >From: Colin Allen >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens >Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:39:47 +0100 > >Ready to ring GNER booking office right now! >----- Original Message ----- >From: "XXX" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:16 AM >Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > > > > Okay, so who's gonna be in Newcastle week of 10th June to go out for a > > drink? > > Also, possible Hawkwind gig at The Opera House on 14th > > November..........anyone interested? > > Kris > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John H. McCartney > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:44 AM > > Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > > > > > > > I think the scariest thing about this is that I understood it! > > > > > > > > > > > > scorch > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed May 30 19:18:10 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 23:18:10 GMT Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Sinful Love (and sinful CDs?) Message-ID: The guitar is very non-Buck unless he's started to rework his guitar sound. If it is Dave, he definately ROCKS. on the MP3 site, do you guys think its a picture of the album cover? its darn hard to decypher with unaided optics. burnin' in the heat of competition (and not the weather), Jason --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed May 30 20:46:39 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike who?) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:46:39 -0600 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Yeh! These Geordie sirens must be something special". Rob, I think they are very close anatomically to the ones immortalized on Savatage's "Sirens".... m From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed May 30 20:06:48 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:06:48 EDT Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: In a message dated 5/30/01 8:32:54 AM US Eastern Standard Time, rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM writes: > BTW I'm hairless and reissued. > > Oooh, that sounds kinda painful. From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed May 30 20:06:16 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:06:16 EDT Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: In a message dated 5/30/01 3:09:32 PM US Eastern Standard Time, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > >My CD is the Griffin one from the Box Set, which says " . . . was > >digitally transferred from the Atco master tapes . . .," which means > >it's a copy of the US LP, > > No, it's a copy of the US master tape (actually a second- > generation "safety" master, I've been told, which may mean it's one > additional generation removed from the UK master tape). It was NOT > mastered from vinyl. > Ah, velly interesting! > >whereas the Dojo is a copy of the UK, I guess? > > Yes, the Dojo is a copy of *a* UK VINYL LP - NOT the master tape, original > or safety/backup copy. The UK master tape is apparently missing (even > though vinyl copies were being pressed through *at least* the mid-80s - my > first copy was a later, post-shield, UK pressing), which would be one > reason it wasn't part of EMI's remaster series. > > To reiterate, the US (Griffin) CD is mastered from an actual master tape, > and the UK (Dojo) CD is mastered from vinyl. > > > So then how clean is the Dojo sound? Does it have pops and whatnot, or was > it cleaned for the CD? > > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed May 30 20:17:23 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:17:23 EDT Subject: HW: Warrior Differences Message-ID: In a message dated 5/29/01 9:10:45 PM US Eastern Standard Time, jmajka2 at HOME.COM writes: > the different versions of this album. It is claimed by Brian Tawn that the > UK LP has a longer, different mix of "Kings of Speed" than does the US Atco > LP> Dunno. I didn't notice any difference. I'll have to check again. album as opposed to the US one. Anyone? Can anyone confirm or deny this?> > > You mean 'Assault and Battery' and 'The Golden Void' ? No. On my UK version > (others may vary, maybe) A&B and TGV are "connected" by the synth bit, so > they flow one into the other. > > Now what's > this business about the vinyl being a half-step higher in pitch than the CD? > It's true, honest! When I played it, A&B sounded higher in pitch than on the Griffin CD. I grabbed me guitar, and tried to play along, using the chords I learned off the Griffin CD, and the vinyl was a half-step higher. > As is well known, not all of the HW CD's are the same as the > vinyl... PXR 5 being a case in point, with totally different vocal tracks > and mixes on the last couple of songs, depending on whether you're listening > to the vinyl or the CD. > > I did not know this! I've got PXR 5 on CD and vinyl, I'll have to check > this out. Pretty sneaky, really. > > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed May 30 19:10:26 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:10:26 -0400 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul II Message-ID: Hey... Who knows anything about a new Amon Duul II compilation entitled 'Manana?' (Label, release date, track info, etc.) Apparently it has some old 'outtakes' and BBC live material, I'm guessing previously unreleased. Or at least *hope* so. Andy G(ilham)? Grakkl (FAA) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed May 30 20:50:02 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:50:02 -0400 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul II Message-ID: On Wed, 30 May 2001 19:10:26 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >Who knows anything about a new Amon Duul II compilation entitled >'Manana?' (Label, release date, track info, etc.) Is it part of the current reissue program that's seen all the UA albums reissued with bonus tracks (at very reasonable prices, at least at Amoeba here in the Bay Area)? The only one I have so far is 'Phallus Dei' (might as well start at the beginning, since I've got 'em all on vinyl ... at least the good ones), which has two 6/7-minute jam sessions as bonus tracks (plus two far shorter snippets). >Apparently it has some old 'outtakes' and BBC live material, >I'm guessing previously unreleased. Or at least *hope* so. I've seen some sort of compilation in the bins with the reissues (although maybe I'm just thinking of a reissue of 'Lemmingmania' w/bonus tracks). I'll double-check next time I'm in the shop ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed May 30 22:36:04 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:36:04 +0800 Subject: HW: Warrior Differences Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:41 PM Subject: Re: HW: Warrior Differences > John Majka writes: > > > So... all this talk of WOTEOT makes me desire some definitive answers about > > the different versions of this album. It is claimed by Brian Tawn that the > > UK LP has a longer, different mix of "Kings of Speed" than does the US Atco > > LP. Also "Assault and Battery" are supposed to be separate tracks on the UK > > album as opposed to the US one. Anyone? Can anyone confirm or deny this? > > I have an original UK Warrior LP and I have the Griffin CD (mastered from > > the US Atco tapes) and haven't really detected any differences. Now what's > > this business about the vinyl being a half-step higher in pitch than the CD? > > I used to have a vinyl Atco and the Dojo CD (mastered from UK vinyl) but no > > longer have either, so I don't have the full opportunity for definitive > > comparisons. As is well known, not all of the HW CD's are the same as the > > vinyl... PXR 5 being a case in point, with totally different vocal tracks > > and mixes on the last couple of songs, depending on whether you're listening > > to the vinyl or the CD. > > Eh? I checked this for the codex and only the High Rise track is different. > The version of PXR5 on the CD of the same name is definitely longer than the LP version. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 30 23:28:32 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:58:32 +0930 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: I don't want hairs, dog shit or any other stained covers thank you very much oh the language you youngsters use in public forums these days - why when I was a youngster we were so poor we couldn't afford *expleteives* let alone two or more in one paragraph!!!! and If I still had all my reall teeth I'd really tell you off young mannnnnnnnnnn~ REALLY!!!! 8A tee hee ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:54 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > Got no hairs on mine. Mine's perfect! Don't want no mother expletive hairs > on my expletive album cover anyway. > > Hey guys and gals, next time I'm down the rubbish tip I'll look for any > album covers with dog shit, vomit and gravy on them. Kollectors items for > sure.... > > Muhahahahahahaha (insane laughter) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mich at el B" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > > > > Checking for hairs > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mike c > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:15 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > > > > > > > the good joe: > > > > > > "I've just snaffled meself a vinyl Warrior and I have a 'hair' on mine, > I > > > think. Up in the upper right corner of the front cover is a > > yellowish-orangey > > > 'hair' running from the corner to almost the d in Hawkwind. (Ennyone > else > > > notice that the LP is a half-step higher, music-wise, than the CD?)" > > > > > > congrats Joe.... > > > apparently you are now among the owners of the VERY ORIGINAL warrior. > > > > > > You describe the hair properly. > > > > > > In mine, it is usually an off-whitish color, but maybe I am colorblind, > > and > > > you do describe the exact location. > > > > > > which warrior CD are you comparing, as the UK one differs to the USA, > and > > > I wouldn't doubt if they all differ in some ways...... > > > but I think the generally accepted stance would be that the UK version > is > > > made from a UK vinyl source, and the USA one is made from master tapes > of > > > the USA version, which probably is a half step different..... > > > > > > I await the truth..... > > > > > > or anything anyone cares to say.... > > > > > > mike > > > > > From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Wed May 30 23:30:54 2001 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 23:30:54 -0400 Subject: BOC: SFG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >The liner notes for St Cecilia suggest that Elektra lost confidence in the >band when Les Braunstein's vocals were replaced by Eric Bloom's. But to my >ear, there are very few EB lead vocals on the album, apart from 'Donovan's >Monkey' and 'I'm on the lamb'. Has anyone got a full list of lead >vocalists by track, please? Maybe it seems that way because Eric sounds so different on so many of the songs. He sings lead on every song but Bonomo's and Arthur, which are sung by Buck. I do all the high harmonies incidentally. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 30 23:33:49 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:03:49 +0930 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: > > PS..I am eventually having my "homeboy" print some repo's of the Orange USA > Promo sticker, that came on the VERY RARE USA non-DJ promo. > I will send you one to use as a bandage on that wounded bitch of yours Michael. > g-g-g-g-ggrooooovyyy From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 30 23:35:06 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:05:06 +0930 Subject: HW:(OFF) Hairy Warriors Message-ID: Hi Mike! Is Renee still emailing you? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: MuHaHaHaHaHaHa!! To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Hairy Warriors > OH AND... > > I forgot the most important thing... > > NEITHER OF YOUR WARRIORS FOLD OUT INTO THE CHAOS SHIELD!!!!!! > > > AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH > > better book a record-fair on your list of activities this weekend..(you hope) > > The above is for Bill, Renee, Michael, and Cynthia....... From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 30 23:37:50 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:07:50 +0930 Subject: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens Message-ID: AAAAArrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggHHHHHHHHHH who turned on the light?? Hi Kris - Have a fun night out - and the rest of you - you luckyyyy ................... ----- Original Message ----- From: XXX To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:46 PM Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > Okay, so who's gonna be in Newcastle week of 10th June to go out for a > drink? > Also, possible Hawkwind gig at The Opera House on 14th > November..........anyone interested? > Kris > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John H. McCartney > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:44 AM > Subject: Re: HW:(OFF) Isle of Geordie Sirens > > > > I think the scariest thing about this is that I understood it! > > > > > > > > scorch > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 30 23:49:23 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:19:23 +0930 Subject: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Hi Hawk peoples heres a Question (?) Whats the deal with STONEHENGE - {1} Is the entire area sealed off? {2} Can visitors hang around it? {3} Can you party near it? {4} What about at night? The reason I ask is because it occured to me that if the Summer festival holiday camp goes off maybe we could pitch in and hire a small bus or something and take a TRIP over there Remembering I don't know the area versus distance etc so maybe this is a lame idea but it's just a thought? Anyway - could be fun perhaps - or maybe not Mb From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 30 23:57:03 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:27:03 +0930 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: > > I suppose Festival Records Australia could go down in history as the first > enviromentally friendly company to recycle vinyl. > > Bill > So the aussie WotEoT Could be a blend of old Kamahl records and Engelbert Humperdink's not so well known Live LP: "Only ladies knicks on stage PLEASE....." Never heard of that one? The Album cover was a shocker tee hee Tee hee From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed May 30 23:59:58 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:29:58 +0930 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: Did she get to dance with Hawkwind tho? ----- Original Message ----- From: rob burton To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind > The first time I heard HW and got hooked it was an x girlfriend who > intoduced me to them. She was a dancer and wanted to dance at a HW gig.She'd > written to Dave and we went to the CotBS show in Liverpool. We met the band > afterwards. I remember Harvey Bainbridge buying us all Tequila Sunrises. On > our return she played me CotBS. Still one of my favourite HW lp's even if it > is abit 'Spinal Tap'.The next time I went round to her house Alan Davey was > there. Well, if you're gonna be dumped for anyone it may as well be a bass > playing, song writing all round God. > > didn't put me off the band though. > > Rob > > > > >From: Mark Von Bargen > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind > >Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 03:02:16 -0400 > > > >Hey, > > > >My first experience was hearing WOTEOT on a poor quality home recorded > >tape. It was still mind blowing enough to get me hooked. > > > >The mate who lent me that tape was also passing some Uriah Heep to me at > >the same time. This was back in 1977. Not long afterwards I got to see the > >Hawks live for the first time as a 15 year old. The rest of the music world > >didn't stand a chance after that! The likes of Sabbath and Motorhead got > >the occassional listen in those days but.... > > > >Immediately I was out scouring record shops with only one group on my mind. > > > >Mark > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu May 31 02:18:48 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 06:18:48 -0000 Subject: Today is HAWKWIND DAY Message-ID: hawkwind are mans last best and perhaps only hope . seriously .,!?,being from the original earth before time created all of the paralel earths and those paradox s i do not get buried in a block of concrete but i do hope someone burries my house in concrete when i leave it.i do wish someone could ask nick turner that kid you said you would help with some trouble ie badges patches " eagles i would love to save but there are no eagles left and the sherifs men who replaced them hav had it and being a child in time i abserlutaly love to say no deepist purple >From: Eric Siegerman >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Today is HAWKWIND DAY >Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 16:20:12 -0400 > >On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 05:02:45PM +0930, Mich at el B wrote: > > Yes its official - today is Hawkwind day and it is your duty as > > official Hawkwind fans to think and project your love and > > adoration thru the psychic ethers directly to our glorious > > heroes- > > > > Mr Dream > >I couldn't think of a better day for Hawkwind Day to be, seeing >as it's also my birthday :-) > >-- > >| | /\ >|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com >| | / >With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not >necessarily a good idea. > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu May 31 02:20:48 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 06:20:48 -0000 Subject: HW: King and Powell: Mathews? Message-ID: he is 7 >From: dhuggins >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: King and Powell: Mathews? >Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 14:54:10 -0700 > >Lemme ask the question, > > Who is Matthews? A roadie that played occasionally? Wouldn't >think he >was a "local guest", Amsterdam and Chicago are geographically (and other >ways) light years apart. > >Dave > > > >BR = Brock > >KI = King > >PO = Powell > >CA = Calvert > >HO = House > >MT = Matthews > >TU = Turner > >DE = Dettmar > >LE = Lemmy > >RU = Rudolph > > > > > >TOWN: HALL: DATE: DAY: LINE-UP: > >Sindelfingen Messehalle 09.06.1974 Sun BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO > >K?ln Uni 10.06.1974 Mon BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO > >Bonn Underground 11.06.1974 Tue BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO > >Mailand Festival 16.06.1974 Sun BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO > >Marrum Festival 20.06.1974 Thu BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO > >Groningen Cultureel Centrum 21.06.1974 Fri > >BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO > >Arnheim Stokvishal 22.06.1974 Sat BR/PO/TU/LE/DE/HO > >Den Haag Congresgebouw 24.06.1974 Mon >BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO > >Amsterdam Concertgebouw 25.06.1974 Tue >BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO/MT > >Rotterdam Doelen 26.06.1974 Wed BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO > >Paris Olympia 02.07.1974 Tue BR/KI/TU/LE/DE/HO/PO > >Harlow Park Festival 10.08.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO/MO/CA > >Bristol Festival 11.08.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Windsor Home Park 28.08.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Detroit Ford Auditorium 06.09.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Chicago Auditorium Theatre 07.09.1974 Sat >BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO/MT > >Cleveland Allen Theatre 08.09.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Madison 11.09.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Cincinnati 13.09.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Dayton 14.09.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Aurora 19.09.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Milwaukee Auditorium 20.09.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Hammond Civic Center 21.09.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >St.Louis Auditorium 15.10.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Memphis 16.10.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Kansas City Memorial Hall 18.10.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Lincoln 19.10.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Oklahoma City 20.10.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Wichita Convention Hall 22.10.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Akron University 26.10.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Chicago Auditorium Theatre 28.10.1974 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Chicago Palace 30.10.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Detroit Theatre 31.10.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >New York Academy Of Music 02.11.1974 Sat > >BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Belgien 16.11.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Brussels University 17.11.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Belgien 18.11.1974 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Paris Olympia 23.11.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Dijon Congress Palace 24.11.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Colmar 25.11.1974 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Poitiers Arena 26.11.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Lyon Palais D'Hiver 27.11.1974 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Grenoble Sports Hall 28.11.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Marseille Salle Vallier 29.11.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Tunbridge Wells Assembly Halls 10.12.1974 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Newcastle City Hall 12.12.1974 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Glasgow Apollo 13.12.1974 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Manchester Palace Theatre 14.12.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Birmingham Odeon 15.12.1974 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Southend Kursal 21.12.1974 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Cardiff Capitol 07.01.1975 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Wolverhampton Civic Hall 08.01.1975 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Birmingham Odeon 10.01.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Bournemouth Winter Gardens 11.01.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Paignton Festival Theatre 12.01.1975 Sun > >BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Watford Town Hall 13.01.1975 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Southampton Gaumont 14.01.1975 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Liverpool Stadium 18.01.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > > > >Oxford New Theatre 19.01.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Derby Kings Hall 23.01.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Clackton Town Hall 24.01.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Bracknell Sports Centre 25.01.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Leicester DeMontfort Hall 30.01.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Lancaster University 31.01.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Leeds University 01.02.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Coventry Theatre 02.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Malvern Winter Gardens 06.02.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >London Eastham 07.02.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Cambridge Corn Exchange 08.02.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >London Hammersmith Odeon 09.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >London Hammersmith Odeon 10.02.1975 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Bradford St.Georges Hall 12.02.1975 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Halifax Civic Hall 13.02.1975 Thu BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Chatham Central Hall 15.02.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >London Roundhouse 16.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Guildford Civic Hall 23.02.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Worthing Assembly Hall 24.02.1975 Mon BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Yeovil Johnson Hall 12.04.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Dunstable Queensway Hall 13.04.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >St.Louis Auditorium 29.04.1975 Tue BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Chicago Arie Crown 07.05.1975 Wed BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Hammond Civic Center 09.05.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Detroit Ford Auditorium 10.05.1975 Sat BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Cleveland Allen Theatre 16.05.1975 Fri BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Toronto Convocation Hall 18.05.1975 Sun BR/LE/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Indianapolis Rivoli Theatre 22.05.1975 Thu BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Milwaukee Uptown Theatre 23.05.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Hamburg Markthalle 30.05.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Mainz Elzer Hof 01.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Saarbr?cken University 04.06.1975 Wed BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Bensberg S?gem?hle 05.06.1975 Thu BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Duisburg Audimax 06.06.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Siegen Stadtb?hne 07.06.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Bonn Stadthalle 08.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >M?nchen Theater Brienenstra?e 10.06.1975 Tue BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Frick Festival 15.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Brussels Janson University 18.06.1975 Wed > >BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Bordeaux Sports Palace 19.06.1975 Thu BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Poitiers Arena 20.06.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Nantes Exhibition Hall 21.06.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Paris Bastille 22.06.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Toulouse Comminges Hall 23.06.1975 Mon BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Metz Sport Palace 25.06.1975 Wed BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Dijon Congress Palace 27.06.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Nimes Arena 28.06.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Newcastle Mayfair 25.07.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Liverpool Stadium 26.07.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Torquay Town Hall 01.08.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Truro Plaza 04.08.1975 Mon BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Sunderland City Hall 08.08.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Edinburgh Usher Hall 09.08.1975 Sat BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Glasgow Apollo 10.08.1975 Sun BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO > >Reading Festival 22.08.1975 Fri BR/RU/KI/TU/HO/PO/CA/MT > >Watchfield Festival 23.08.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO > >Halden Festival 30.08.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO > >Lund Olympen 04.09.1975 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO > >Cambrai Festival 07.09.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO > >Reims Opera 23.09.1975 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO > >Maastricht Staargebouw 26.09.1975 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO > >Venlo Concertgebouw 27.09.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO > >Assen De Kolk 28.09.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO > >L?neburg 01.10.1975 Wed BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO > >Stuttgart Gustav Siegle Haus 05.10.1975 Sun > >BR/RU/TU/PO/KI/HO > >Birmingham Bingly Hall 12.12.1975 Fri >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Southend Kursal 13.12.1975 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Reading Top Rank 14.12.1975 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Cardiff Top Rank 16.12.1975 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Uxbridge Brunel University 17.12.1975 Wed > >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Ipswich Gaumont 18.12.1975 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Norwich St.Andrews Hall 19.12.1975 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Edmonton Picketts Lock 20.12.1975 Sat >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Southampton Top Rank 21.12.1975 Sun >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Salford University 05.03.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >London Imperial College 06.03.1976 Sat >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Malvern Winter Gardens 09.03.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Bournemouth Winter Gardens 12.03.1976 Fri >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Sheffield University 13.03.1976 Sat >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Preston Guild Hall 14.03.1976 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Barnstaple Queensway Hall 10.07.1976 Sat >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Cardiff Castle 24.07.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Sheffield City Hall 15.09.1976 Wed >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Birmingham Odeon 16.09.1976 Thu BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Liverpool Empire 17.09.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Manchester Palace Theatre 18.09.1976 Sat >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Newcastle City Hall 19.09.1976 Sun >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Edinburgh Usher Hall 20.09.1976 Mon >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Glasgow Apollo 21.09.1976 Tue BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Aberdeen Capitol 22.09.1976 Wed BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Oxford New Theatre 25.09.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Cardiff Capitol 26.09.1976 Sun BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Bristol Colston Hall 27.09.1976 Mon BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Guildford Civic Hall 28.09.1976 Tue >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Dunstable Queensway Hall 30.09.1976 Thu >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Southampton Gaumont 01.10.1976 Fri BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Ipswich Gaumont 02.10.1976 Sat BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >Leicester DeMontfort Hall 04.10.1976 Mon >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > >London Hammersmith Odeon 05.10.1976 Tue >BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > > > > > >>How did they split it live? - two full kits and straight duplication? > > > >Yes, with two full kits > > > > > >Hope that helps > >Bernhard _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu May 31 03:11:30 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 07:11:30 -0000 Subject: hawkwind Message-ID: are hawkwind a paradox due to a kid who in 1972 could have only been 8 years old born in 1964 went to the bar asked for a pint and was actualy old enough ,legal drinking age 18 or above .when did does that paradox start?,tez or tomorow!.waiting for tommorow is a track ,when thers moterhead ,angels of death ,quark strangeness and charm ,fall of earth city ,star canible ,new clear drive safer than radiam biproducts>.not quite shot down in the knight ,doraymefarsole has passed ,harris ment and law ,have you seen the evolved ants yet you know the flies with crowns on their heads ,"probably a result of radiation ,they dont like man much ,only last 5 mounths though ,spells ;magick ,i would love to know how they got through time . _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu May 31 03:20:01 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:20:01 +0800 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: > > > > I suppose Festival Records Australia could go down in history as the first > > enviromentally friendly company to recycle vinyl. > > > > Bill > > Michael B wrote: > So the aussie WotEoT Could be a blend of old Kamahl records and Engelbert > Humperdink's not so well known Live LP: "Only ladies knicks on stage > PLEASE....." > Never heard of that one? The Album cover was a shocker tee hee > > Tee hee > "Oooh. Why is everybody sooooo unkind." Hey Michael - I've got that live album by Kamahl. Cover was really faded and the print comes off in my hand. Muhahahahahahhhhhahahahahahahggggggggggggggggggnnnnnnxxxx Bill To Die or Yester Die From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 31 04:48:36 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 04:48:36 -0400 Subject: spare a nickel? Message-ID: On Thu, 31 May 2001 13:19:23 +0930, Mich at el B wrote: >Hi Hawk peoples > >heres a Question (?) > >Whats the deal with STONEHENGE - > >{1} Is the entire area sealed off? Yep! >{2} Can visitors hang around it? Only at a distance! >{3} Can you party near it? Only if the local landowner doesn't call the police! >{4} What about at night? Same applies! > > >The reason I ask is because it occured to me that if the Summer festival holiday camp goes off maybe we could pitch in and hire a small bus or something and take a TRIP over there > >Remembering I don't know the area versus distance etc so maybe this is a lame idea but it's just a thought? Lake District or Durham to Stonehenge = about 250/300 miles > >Anyway - could be fun perhaps - or maybe not > >Mb From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu May 31 04:55:37 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:55:37 +0100 Subject: Musical Joke? Message-ID: "Captain Bl at ck" wrote: > How many bass players does it take to change a light bulb? > > None - the keyboard player can do it with his left hand! Why do bands have a drummer? To make the bass player look good! From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu May 31 05:03:44 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:03:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul II In-Reply-To: <200105310900.FAA02078@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: MANANA is the same BBC live recording that came out in around '92 plus some alternate takes. Not essential if you've got the earlier LIVE IN CONCERT, probably, but it definitely is essential if you haven't! -- Andy www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu May 31 05:05:00 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:05:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul II In-Reply-To: <200105310900.FAA02078@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Oh, and then there's all these new reissues on Gammarock, which have nice mastering (but I haven't A/Bed them to see what changes there are) and assorted bonus tracks (mostly recent stuff). -- Andy www.andygilham.com From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Thu May 31 05:29:04 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 05:29:04 -0400 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: On Wed, 30 May 2001 16:09:17 -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: >To reiterate, the US (Griffin) CD is mastered from an actual master tape, >and the UK (Dojo) CD is mastered from vinyl. > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com Do you think that mastering from vinyl would affect the quality of the sound? I've always thought that my Dojo CD sounds a bit hollow. Alastair. From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Thu May 31 05:36:41 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 02:36:41 -0700 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: That part of the Roadhawks lp was and is my favorite transition of songs (and possibly the best of all time ). No matter how many times I have played it for partys and people, they never fail to literally jump when I play it at appropriate audio levels. The bang at the beginning of Golden Void is pretty gripping on Warrior, but seems twice as loud on Roadhawks. Question: Is Roadhawks available on cd? Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: William Duffy To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind > Hi there > > For me it was the part on the Roadhawks compilation album, where Winds of > Change segues into The Golden Void. I really liked the bid where the > mellotron and everything went quiet, then you were suddenly hit with that > first note on The Golden Void. > > William > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rat On A Stick" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:35 PM > Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind > > > > Hey Hawkpersons > > > > Which Hawkwind song(s) reeled you in, captured your imagination and > turned > > you on to the whole trip??? and why? > > > > For me I think it was: The Fifth Second of Forever & Dust Of Time on the > > Levitation album > > > > because of the beautiful acoustic section with the sfx and those trippy > > synthi swirly sounds that so gracefully changed to an excellent space rock > > number > > then back to acoustic then back to space rock etc > > > > Incredible > > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu May 31 06:32:23 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:32:23 +0100 Subject: spare a nickel? Message-ID: >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 05/31/01 04:49am >>> Hi Hawk peoples heres a Question (?) Whats the deal with STONEHENGE - {1} Is the entire area sealed off? Yes {2} Can visitors hang around it? Not very close {3} Can you party near it? Not really {4} What about at night? Same I think anyway...... The reason I ask is because it occured to me that if the Summer festival holiday camp goes off maybe we could pitch in and hire a small bus or something and take a TRIP over there Remembering I don't know the area versus distance etc so maybe this is a lame idea but it's just a thought? Anyway - could be fun perhaps - or maybe not Mb I think that the Lakes is a little too far from Stone Henge for all that..... but I may just be being pessimistic.......... Either way I think that a coach trip that far would make me very sick!!! lol... (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a VERY smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) Layla From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 31 06:35:58 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 06:35:58 -0400 Subject: HW: tour programmes Message-ID: On Wed, 30 May 2001 11:39:44 +0100, iain ferguson wrote: >Hi folks, > >If your going to include the Glastonbury one, then you'd better include >the Treworgy festival one as well ( and I have one ) yipee !!! > >Anyone got a good recording of this ? i'll have some swaps soon. >I heard there was an official video of this, anyone got a copy for sale I have audio and video recordings; not for sale but happy to trade. Colin From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Thu May 31 12:14:18 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:14:18 -0400 Subject: footage In-Reply-To: <200103061921.UAA17260@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: Hi Bernhard, Firstly did you manage to get the video recordings done for Micheal Holmes? Also were the tape recordings from '76 and the Sheffield '81 stuff etc any better than you already had? Has anyone had a breakthrough with locating the footage (especially Hawklords) from the Top Ten programme? Did you see this on German tv? If someone has a possible hope of getting this recording I'd be happy to pester them too. Regards, Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Bernhard Pospiech Sent: 06 March 2001 14:21 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: footage Hi folks Have not seen the footage yet, but I suppose that the HAWKLORDS clip is from the Uxbridge gig (24.11.1978) It is mentioned by Kris Tait in the book THIS IS HAWKWIND DO NOT PANIC. She says: "....on the last night of the tour, at a small University gig, the act was filmed on video, recording it for posterity..." Indeed the last HAWKLORDS gig was at the Uxbridge University. And I am rather sure that the HAWKLORDS LIVE CD is from the same gig Bernhard From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Thu May 31 07:27:14 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 07:27:14 -0400 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: On Thu, 31 May 2001 11:32:23 +0100, Layla Thompson wrote: [big snip] >I think that the Lakes is a little too far from Stone Henge for all that..... but I may just be being pessimistic.......... > > Either way I think that a coach trip that far would make me very sick!!! lol... > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a VERY smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > > Layla Well, That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and then the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! Mark From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Thu May 31 07:30:20 2001 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:30:20 +0200 Subject: AW: footage Message-ID: Hi Eddie >Firstly did you manage to get the video recordings done for Micheal Holmes? Yes I did. 2 or 3 weeks ago >Also were the tape recordings from '76 and the Sheffield '81 stuff etc any >better than you already had? Same quality Thanks Eddie Bernhard Disclaimer 1. This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. 2. If you as intended recipient have received this e-mail incorrectly, please notify the sender (via e-mail) immediately. This e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. DSM does not guarantee that the information sent and/or received by or with this e-mail is correct and does not accept any liability for damages related thereto. From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Thu May 31 07:52:57 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:52:57 +0100 Subject: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Although if you want to visit a stone circle there are many in the lake District one of which is painted on the inside booklet to Electric Tepee. Can't remeber the name as my head is full of other things this luinchtime but it is not far from Penrith. Rob >From: Layla Thompson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: spare a nickel? >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:32:23 +0100 > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 05/31/01 04:49am >>> >Hi Hawk peoples > >heres a Question (?) > >Whats the deal with STONEHENGE - > >{1} Is the entire area sealed off? Yes >{2} Can visitors hang around it? Not very close >{3} Can you party near it? Not really >{4} What about at night? Same > >I think anyway...... > > >The reason I ask is because it occured to me that if the Summer festival >holiday camp goes off maybe we could pitch in and hire a small bus or >something and take a TRIP over there > >Remembering I don't know the area versus distance etc so maybe this is a >lame idea but it's just a thought? > >Anyway - could be fun perhaps - or maybe not > >Mb > >I think that the Lakes is a little too far from Stone Henge for all >that..... but I may just be being pessimistic.......... > > Either way I think that a coach trip that far would make me very sick!!! >lol... > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a VERY >smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > > Layla _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu May 31 08:17:29 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:17:29 +0100 Subject: Musical Joke? Message-ID: > "Captain Bl at ck" wrote: > > > How many bass players does it take to change a light bulb? > > > > None - the keyboard player can do it with his left hand! > > Why do bands have a drummer? > > To make the bass player look good! Golden oldie: What do you call a person who hangs around with musicians? A drummer! From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu May 31 09:25:43 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:25:43 +0100 Subject: spare a nickel? Message-ID: rob burton wrote: > Although if you want to visit a stone circle there are many in the lake > District one of which is painted on the inside booklet to Electric Tepee. > Can't remeber the name as my head is full of other things this luinchtime > but it is not far from Penrith. Castlerigg is the circle featured on the sleeve of Electric Tepee. It's near Keswick. The big one near Penrith is known as Long Meg and her Daughters. From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu May 31 09:28:24 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:28:24 +0100 Subject: Musical Joke? Message-ID: Nick Lee wrote: > > "Captain Bl at ck" wrote: > > > > > How many bass players does it take to change a light bulb? > > > > > > None - the keyboard player can do it with his left hand! > > > > Why do bands have a drummer? > > > > To make the bass player look good! > > Golden oldie: > > What do you call a person who hangs around with musicians? > > A drummer! How do you tell it's a drummer at your door? The knocking speeds up! From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu May 31 09:32:34 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:32:34 +0100 Subject: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Keith Barton wrote: > rob burton wrote: > > > Although if you want to visit a stone circle there are many in the lake > > District one of which is painted on the inside booklet to Electric Tepee. > > Can't remeber the name as my head is full of other things this luinchtime > > but it is not far from Penrith. > > Castlerigg is the circle featured on the sleeve of Electric Tepee. It's near > Keswick. > The big one near Penrith is known as Long Meg and her Daughters. This is a nice site to visit if you're interested: http://www.celynog.fsnet.co.uk/index.htm From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu May 31 09:36:05 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:36:05 +0100 Subject: Musical Joke? Message-ID: Keith Barton wrote: > Nick Lee wrote: > > > > "Captain Bl at ck" wrote: > > > > > > > How many bass players does it take to change a light bulb? > > > > > > > > None - the keyboard player can do it with his left hand! > > > > > > Why do bands have a drummer? > > > > > > To make the bass player look good! > > > > Golden oldie: > > > > What do you call a person who hangs around with musicians? > > > > A drummer! > > How do you tell it's a drummer at your door? > > The knocking speeds up! How can you tell when a drummer's at the door? He doesn't know when to come in! Ahh...I'll get me coat... From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 31 10:35:23 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:05:23 +0930 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: muuuugghhhhhh hahah ha ha ha muuuuuaghgahghaghagha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I like it!!!! So what are we gonna do about getting Hawkwind over here in Adelaide and there in Perth? Maybe we could spray paint HAWKWIND in letters 10 feet high accross parliment hall and assorted buildings to begin with and then...................... Get the news reporters croaking? :) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 4:50 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > > > > > > I suppose Festival Records Australia could go down in history as the > first > > > enviromentally friendly company to recycle vinyl. > > > > > > Bill > > > > Michael B wrote: > > So the aussie WotEoT Could be a blend of old Kamahl records and > Engelbert > > Humperdink's not so well known Live LP: "Only ladies knicks on stage > > PLEASE....." > > Never heard of that one? The Album cover was a shocker tee hee > > > > Tee hee > > > > "Oooh. Why is everybody sooooo unkind." > > Hey Michael - I've got that live album by Kamahl. Cover was really faded and > the print comes off in my hand. > Muhahahahahahhhhhahahahahahahggggggggggggggggggnnnnnnxxxx > > > Bill > > To Die or Yester Die > From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu May 31 10:33:13 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:33:13 +0100 Subject: off: Re: Musical Joke? Message-ID: OK OK enough !!!! As a drummer i've heard them all before. Therefore I shall tell you my favourite. How do you know you making love with a drummer ? He speeds up at the end Variations on the same theme i'm sure have been around since man first grooved in a pit with rudimentary percussion ( and drummers havn't deleveloped from then either) HAHA Iain From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 31 10:36:23 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:06:23 +0930 Subject: spare a nickel? Message-ID: do'oh ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Allen To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: Re: spare a nickel? > On Thu, 31 May 2001 13:19:23 +0930, Mich at el B > wrote: > > >Hi Hawk peoples > > > >heres a Question (?) > > > >Whats the deal with STONEHENGE - > > > >{1} Is the entire area sealed off? > Yep! > > >{2} Can visitors hang around it? > Only at a distance! > > >{3} Can you party near it? > Only if the local landowner doesn't call the police! > > >{4} What about at night? > Same applies! > > > > > >The reason I ask is because it occured to me that if the Summer festival > holiday camp goes off maybe we could pitch in and hire a small bus or > something and take a TRIP over there > > > >Remembering I don't know the area versus distance etc so maybe this is a > lame idea but it's just a thought? > > Lake District or Durham to Stonehenge = about 250/300 miles > > > >Anyway - could be fun perhaps - or maybe not > > > >Mb From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 31 10:37:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:07:27 +0930 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: I would be liking a copy of this ROADHAWKS yes!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Moody To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 7:06 PM Subject: Re: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind > That part of the Roadhawks lp was and is my favorite transition of songs > (and possibly the best of all time ). No matter how many times I have played > it for partys and people, they never fail to literally jump when I play it > at appropriate audio levels. The bang at the beginning of Golden Void is > pretty gripping on Warrior, but seems twice as loud on Roadhawks. Question: > Is Roadhawks available on cd? Steve The Moonman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: William Duffy > To: > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 7:58 AM > Subject: Re: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind > > > > Hi there > > > > For me it was the part on the Roadhawks compilation album, where Winds of > > Change segues into The Golden Void. I really liked the bid where the > > mellotron and everything went quiet, then you were suddenly hit with that > > first note on The Golden Void. > > > > William > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rat On A Stick" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:35 PM > > Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind > > > > > > > Hey Hawkpersons > > > > > > Which Hawkwind song(s) reeled you in, captured your imagination and > > turned > > > you on to the whole trip??? and why? > > > > > > For me I think it was: The Fifth Second of Forever & Dust Of Time on > the > > > Levitation album > > > > > > because of the beautiful acoustic section with the sfx and those trippy > > > synthi swirly sounds that so gracefully changed to an excellent space > rock > > > number > > > then back to acoustic then back to space rock etc > > > > > > Incredible > > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 31 10:38:41 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:08:41 +0930 Subject: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Double Do'oh :( ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:02 PM Subject: Re: spare a nickel? > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 05/31/01 04:49am >>> > Hi Hawk peoples > > heres a Question (?) > > Whats the deal with STONEHENGE - > > {1} Is the entire area sealed off? Yes > {2} Can visitors hang around it? Not very close > {3} Can you party near it? Not really > {4} What about at night? Same > > I think anyway...... > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 31 10:39:32 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:09:32 +0930 Subject: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Cool ----- Original Message ----- From: rob burton To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:22 PM Subject: Re: spare a nickel? > Although if you want to visit a stone circle there are many in the lake > District one of which is painted on the inside booklet to Electric Tepee. > Can't remeber the name as my head is full of other things this luinchtime > but it is not far from Penrith. > Rob > > > >From: Layla Thompson > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: spare a nickel? > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:32:23 +0100 > > > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 05/31/01 04:49am >>> > >Hi Hawk peoples > > > >heres a Question (?) > > > >Whats the deal with STONEHENGE - > > > >{1} Is the entire area sealed off? Yes > >{2} Can visitors hang around it? Not very close > >{3} Can you party near it? Not really > >{4} What about at night? Same > > > >I think anyway...... > > > > > >The reason I ask is because it occured to me that if the Summer festival > >holiday camp goes off maybe we could pitch in and hire a small bus or > >something and take a TRIP over there > > > >Remembering I don't know the area versus distance etc so maybe this is a > >lame idea but it's just a thought? > > > >Anyway - could be fun perhaps - or maybe not > > > >Mb > > > >I think that the Lakes is a little too far from Stone Henge for all > >that..... but I may just be being pessimistic.......... > > > > Either way I think that a coach trip that far would make me very sick!!! > >lol... > > > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a VERY > >smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > > > > Layla > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu May 31 10:33:13 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:33:13 -0500 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: Make sure they have a layover in CLEVELAND on the way, so I can see them too :-) STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:35 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors muuuugghhhhhh hahah ha ha ha muuuuuaghgahghaghagha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I like it!!!! So what are we gonna do about getting Hawkwind over here in Adelaide and there in Perth? Maybe we could spray paint HAWKWIND in letters 10 feet high accross parliment hall and assorted buildings to begin with and then...................... Get the news reporters croaking? :) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 4:50 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > > > > > > I suppose Festival Records Australia could go down in history as the > first > > > enviromentally friendly company to recycle vinyl. > > > > > > Bill > > > > Michael B wrote: > > So the aussie WotEoT Could be a blend of old Kamahl records and > Engelbert > > Humperdink's not so well known Live LP: "Only ladies knicks on stage > > PLEASE....." > > Never heard of that one? The Album cover was a shocker tee hee > > > > Tee hee > > > > "Oooh. Why is everybody sooooo unkind." > > Hey Michael - I've got that live album by Kamahl. Cover was really faded and > the print comes off in my hand. > Muhahahahahahhhhhahahahahahahggggggggggggggggggnnnnnnxxxx > > > Bill > > To Die or Yester Die > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu May 31 11:05:32 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:05:32 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: Mark Von Bargen's message of Thu, 31 May 2001 07:27:14 -0400 Message-ID: Mark Von Bargen writes: > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a VERY > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and then > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. FoFP From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu May 31 11:50:06 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish man". And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... (any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event will scar me til the end of my days) Layla. >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> Mark Von Bargen writes: > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a VERY > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and then > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. FoFP From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu May 31 11:51:25 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:51:25 -0500 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: What do you mean your a veggie?????????STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:50 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish man". And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... (any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event will scar me til the end of my days) Layla. >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> Mark Von Bargen writes: > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a VERY > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and then > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. FoFP From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 31 12:05:22 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:05:22 -0400 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: On Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100, Layla Thompson wrote: >HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > >BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish man". And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > >(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event will scar me til the end of my days) > >Layla. Ah! But we veggies are rumoured to have our own forms of revenge! Colin From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu May 31 12:18:53 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:18:53 +0800 Subject: HW: In Australia (was Hairy Warriors) Message-ID: > So what are we gonna do about getting Hawkwind over here in Adelaide and > there in Perth? > There are quite a number of Hawkwind fans in Perth. When it gets a little closer to the world tour (an announcement) I'll place an advert in the papers and see if I can drum up numbers. Being a business they will only come across if there's a good crowd. They have to cover costs and make enough for it to be worthwhile. Regardless of where Hawkwind play in Australia I WILL BE THERE Bill From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu May 31 12:16:18 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:16:18 -0500 Subject: In Australia (was Hairy Warriors) Message-ID: I've only heard rumours but any clues on when this world tour might take place.CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Bill & Cynthia [mailto:freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:19 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: In Australia (was Hairy Warriors) > So what are we gonna do about getting Hawkwind over here in Adelaide and > there in Perth? > There are quite a number of Hawkwind fans in Perth. When it gets a little closer to the world tour (an announcement) I'll place an advert in the papers and see if I can drum up numbers. Being a business they will only come across if there's a good crowd. They have to cover costs and make enough for it to be worthwhile. Regardless of where Hawkwind play in Australia I WILL BE THERE Bill From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu May 31 12:32:12 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:32:12 +0800 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: Michael B wrote: > I would be liking a copy of this ROADHAWKS yes!! You'll love it. Has the greatest version of "You Shouldn't Do That" Do yourself a favour and find one.... Bill From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu May 31 12:36:23 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:36:23 +0100 Subject: Jon Jarret's ex-hawks list Message-ID: Does anyone have the URL for Jon's website listing the music that the various ex-hawks have been involved in? Ta. FoFP From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu May 31 12:47:19 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:47:19 +0800 Subject: In Australia (was Hairy Warriors) Message-ID: Stephen Lindas wrote: > I've only heard rumours but any clues on when this world tour might take > place.CHEERS STEPHE > It was mentioned on the IRC chat that HW are planning a world tour in 2002. Let's hope so. I've got to see them at least once in my life :-) Bill From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu May 31 13:00:00 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:00:00 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Sorry... I am a vegetarian..... no meat, fish, poultry, eggs....................... Layla (and I wasn't trying to be sarcastic there.... just telling you what I don't eat!) >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 05/31/01 04:51pm >>> What do you mean your a veggie?????????STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:50 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish man". And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... (any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event will scar me til the end of my days) Layla. >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> Mark Von Bargen writes: > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a VERY > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and then > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. FoFP From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu May 31 13:09:25 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:09:25 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: >>> colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK 05/31/01 05:05pm >>> On Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100, Layla Thompson wrote: >HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > >BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish man". And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > >(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event will scar me til the end of my days) > >Layla. Ah! But we veggies are rumoured to have our own forms of revenge! Colin We do?? I hope that you are not referring to what I think you are referring to??? Are you?? Please, tell me what you are getting at..... before I say something embarrassing that is COMPLETELY different to what you were thinking of! ARG!!! I am starting to confuse myself now!!!! but, tell me anyway! Layla. From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu May 31 13:16:58 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:16:58 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: It probably invloves marrows or cucumbers... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > >>> colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK 05/31/01 05:05pm >>> > On Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100, Layla Thompson > wrote: > > >HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > > > > >BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on > the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish man". > And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > > > >(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event > will scar me til the end of my days) > > > >Layla. > > Ah! But we veggies are rumoured to have our own forms of revenge! > > Colin > > > We do?? > > I hope that you are not referring to what I think you are referring to??? > > Are you?? > > Please, tell me what you are getting at..... before I say something embarrassing that is COMPLETELY different to what you were thinking of! > > ARG!!! I am starting to confuse myself now!!!! > > but, tell me anyway! > > > Layla. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu May 31 13:29:25 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:29:25 +0100 Subject: ACTION MAN Hawkwind connection? In-Reply-To: <200105011550.LAA23944@mail5.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 May 2001, K Henderson wrote: > Roger Neville-Neil (aka Nostra-Rogus) you're talking about, eh? Yeah, he > wrote the lyrics for "Heads" ("In glass booths they're wired" really? I > never woulda guessed that that's what he was saying!). And to connect up > with the Farflung thread, he wrote the lyrics also to "The Raven Ate the > Moon." In fact, he was at Strange Daze '99 when Farflung played. For those > of you there that didn't know, he was the odd chap in the Secret Agent garb > (trenchcoat and hat), which made me think that he wrote that one as well. > (I'm not sure, but I don't think so.) He's a really nice guy, as we shared > a table at the Sunday night indoor show at the Symposium. He lives in > Portland, OR and walks great distances at times to see shows, as he doesn't > own a car (or at least didn't back in '99). (I know we had a thread about > that awhile back also.) He's the one that turned us at AI onto King Black > Acid (from Portland also). Roger is also a photography buff who I'm sure > has a lot of tasty photos of many cool groups. In fact, I think he shot > some for SD'99 (check our review page). Keith, I think Roger is not entitled to any claim on `Secret Agent'. The person who might be is Bob Calvert, whose `On The Case' from the musical _The Kid from Silicon Gulch_ has some of the same phrases, including the `tight spot' bit as a throwaway; but even there there's not so much resemblance. However, the use of that song does suggest to me that Dave had all the source he needed for those words already. Yours, Jon P.S. that musical was supposed to be getting a revival some time last year, wasn't it? I never heard anything about it, I assume it never happened? -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu May 31 13:38:40 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:38:40 +0100 Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation In-Reply-To: <200105020349.XAA26682@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 May 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > Joe Carducci summed it up pretty well in his BRILLIANT book, 'Rock and the > Pop Narcotic' (highly, highly recommended to the very intelligent fans on > this list): > > "Extra points awarded here for hiding behind what was taken to be crypto- > fascist fascia when in fact they were all five foot Jews from New York" > > Make of that what you will ... I feel sure this must be in the FAQ, because I can't think where else I'd have read it, but this reminds me of the reported interview question the band got after the release of _Secret Treaties_: INT.: So, are you guys Jewish Nazis? BD: Actually, only Eric is Jewish. I've always loved that :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: Orange Goblin - _Frequencies from Planet Ten_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu May 31 13:36:21 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:36:21 +0100 Subject: off : Syd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 1 May 2001, mike c wrote: > So are the rumours we get down here in Texas true, that Syd smokes > cigarettes, does paintings, and watches TV with his mom...(like me) His mother's dead now and he's supposed to live with his sister. TV I imagine features, but all that anyone actually knows is that he goes walking in the early evening and doesn't talk to people, and doesn't look the same these days. So as I say you get a lot of people who claim to have seen him but given the rest of the band didn't recognise him in 1975, I place every little credence in it. Though a friend of mine used to have a habit, still does as far as I know, of singing to herself while walking somewhere alone so as to keep up her confidence. One evening she was doing this, with a tune of her own invention and walked past an unkempt and nondescript fellow who was leaning against a wall. This didn't make her any the more comfortable, especially when she found she'd taken the wrong road and had to go back past him. At this point however she found he was singing a harmony part to her tune. On reporting this to a more Floyd-wise friend of hers she was told with awe that that was where Syd is supposed to take his evening constitutional... Make of it what you will. The rumours we get in Cambridge are the same as the rumours you get I guess. Those who know where he lives are only telling the odd jorunalist, and Syd doesn't make for a good interview any more. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu May 31 13:26:12 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:26:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A99F5C@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 May 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > what about Rick Wright? What if SYD wanted to record again? It could happen. > > > > isn't it all a bit like the Roger Waters vs Dave Gilmour split down the > > > middle where both reckoned they had the right to use Pink Floyd - there, > > the > > > mystery was why it went to Gilmour as he was NOT an original member of > the > > > band - so maybe it's not as clear cut as it seems. > > Though Nick Mason was. I'm not sure, given Syd's rumoured mental state, it could. Though it's a long time since I read the Echoes FAQ, which is where I got this notion from. Does anyone know where it lives on the web these days? But yes, I don't think he's played since 1972. Though several of the sighting reports I've heard suggest that he still sings. But whether you believe them or not, is up to you. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu May 31 13:47:03 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:47:03 +0100 Subject: HW et al: Fuz magazine #2 In-Reply-To: <200105020405.AAA26967@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 May 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > Knights of the Fairy Sword - vocals (3) > Pink Fairies Motorcycle Club and All-Star Rock and Roll Band - percussion > (6,9), vocal effects (6), handclaps (7), vocals (9) > > "Silver", of course, was Twink's girlfriend at the time (happy couple > pictured on the back cover). No credits as to who the "Knights" or "PF's > MC and all-star R&R band" are, but I'm sure it's safe to assume that the > latter included Duncan Sanderson & Russell Hunter of the Deviants/Pink > Fairies. Not so sure. Russell Hunter, in the liner notes to _Mandies and Mescalines Round at Uncle Harry's_ says the Pink Fairies Motorcycle Club was where the name Pink Fairies came from, and that it was a three-piece, not necessarily a band except of rogues, composed of Twink, Mick Farren and Peregrine Took. I'd discount this, since it differs so much from the normal story of the origin of the Pink Fairies, except that that story is usually told by Twink, whose version of reality is often more personal than most. Twink seems to claim that three-piece as the first PF line-up, with various extras bouncing in and out; Russell Hunter reckons that was a drinking club not a band and that PF began when Twink rang him, Rudolph and Sanderson in the aftermath of the Deviants break-up and said, "Let's form a band", later leaving since he couldn't elbow Russell out. Both these versions seem to have axes a-grindin'. I suspect the only person who could reliably say is probably Mick Farren. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Thu May 31 13:58:15 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:58:15 -0400 Subject: Hawkdiscs Message-ID: Hey Now! I have these Hawkdiscs to trade or sell: Anthology Vol II - Samurai (CD)039 DOREMI FASOL LATIDO - One Way Records CDLL 57475 Levitation - Griffin GCD230-2 The Hawklords Live - Griffin GN 03921-2 The Chronicle of The Black Sword - Griffin GCDHA-0142-2 Live Chronicles - Griffin GCDHA-0136-2 Palace Springs - RoadRacer RRD 9303 Electric Tepee - Griffin GN0931-2 Future Reconstructions - Emergency Broadcast System EBSSCD 117 Quark, Strangeness & Charm CD Single - EBCD110 1) Uncle Sam's on Mars(Red Planet Radio Mix) 2) Quark, Strangeness & Charm 3) Black Sun (9:34 minutes) 4) Uncle Sam's On Mars (Martian Conquest Mix) Alan Davey ~ Captured Rotation - Digipak EBSSCD 122 Anyone who needs any of the discs above, just send me a note < hawkwind at medione.net > All are mint. I am looking for Farflung: The Raven....and The Belief Module and various Hawkwind releases. Peace, Darrin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu May 31 14:19:38 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:19:38 EDT Subject: BOC: fakes? SFG liner notes revelation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 31 May 2001, at 18:38, Jon Jarrett wrote: > I feel sure this must be in the FAQ, because I can't think > where > else I'd have read it, but this reminds me of the reported interview > question the band got after the release of _Secret Treaties_: > > INT.: So, are you guys Jewish Nazis? > BD: Actually, only Eric is Jewish. > > I've always loved that :-) Yours, > Jon > I can vouch for this quote, because I read it in realtime! theo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu May 31 14:22:10 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:22:10 +0100 Subject: spacebrock comments In-Reply-To: <200105021552.LAA12441@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 May 2001, K Henderson wrote: > In fact, I don't see why a track or two from Keith and Danny's repertoire > couldn't become part of the Hawkwind standard set right now. You know > there's plenty of precedence for this. Think Swindells' Shot Down, Blake's > Lighthouse (and NJ, and Nati as well), and even Hale's Dangerous Visions. > It seems all the keyboardists get their stuff in there. Seems to me that > 'Return to Earth' and/or 'Telepathy' would make great tracks to add to the > live set. Especially the former, with Richard really having fun on the > bongos in the midsection, just as he's been doing on Space is Their > (Palestine) for the past five years. It's my impression, and no more than that, based on no actual knowledge, that these days the Captain considers Hawkwind to be a slightly more exclusive beast. I don't see them doing songs that aren't Hawkwind songs, although of course they do do `Lighthouse' - but that's been on a Hawkwind album, hasn't it, and so forth. I think adding some extra material from their splinter bands (Bedouin, Paradogs, Starfield) might make things a littl bit more modern but I think the variety in the set list is already so high that it doesn't need help. What I want is for Alan and Keith and people to write some Hawkwind songs :-) But you know me, never satisfied until the album comes out and then very rarely. > And this brings up a question...does anybody know what the official lineup > of the band *is* just now? > > My guess is... > Dave Brock - G,V,K > Ron Tree - V (B if needed) > Alan Davey - B,V (whenever available) > Richard Chadwick - D > Keith Kniveton - K > Jez Huggett - Sax (Member-in-training?) > Harvey Bainbridge - K,V (permanent welcome guest) > Simon House - Violin (permanent welcome guest) Mission Control still reckons the line-up to be the 4-piece. And these pages have lately been updated so I guess that's current. I'm not sure Harvey is willing to guest at the moment. I also don't think Dave would willingly take the band out on tour without Alan; if Alan gets a deal for Bedouin ever the competition may become an issue though, or at least that's my guess. No real information though, as I say. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu May 31 14:23:09 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:23:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Space Ritual 8 Track Cartridge In-Reply-To: <30.143def22.2821f9f6@aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 May 2001, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > > also got a nice copy of "*IN* The Hall Of The Mountain Grill", which is > pure > > UA. > > > > .joe > > "The yellow jester does not play but gently pulls his strings...and smiles as > the puppets dance IN THE HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN > GRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL-AHHHH-AHAH-AHHHH-AHAH..." > ...well, both have mellotron at least... > :) Chuck Oh, I'm so glad soemone else thought that too... Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu May 31 16:54:03 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:54:03 -0400 Subject: HW: spacebrock comments Message-ID: On Thu, 31 May 2001 19:22:10 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: > Mission Control still reckons the line-up to be the 4-piece. Actually, Keith is listed as a member on the Mission Control page, although there's no photo. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 31 17:26:56 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:26:56 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Our reputed flatulence:) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > >>> colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK 05/31/01 05:05pm >>> > On Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100, Layla Thompson > wrote: > > >HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > > > > >BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on > the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish man". > And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > > > >(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event > will scar me til the end of my days) > > > >Layla. > > Ah! But we veggies are rumoured to have our own forms of revenge! > > Colin > > > We do?? > > I hope that you are not referring to what I think you are referring to??? > > Are you?? > > Please, tell me what you are getting at..... before I say something embarrassing that is COMPLETELY different to what you were thinking of! > > ARG!!! I am starting to confuse myself now!!!! > > but, tell me anyway! > > > Layla. > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu May 31 17:55:31 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:55:31 -0000 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: DEAR LAYLA - YOU'RE THE ONLY GIRL WHO LIKES HAWKWIND AND I LUV YOU JUDGE TREV SO THERE >From: Layla Thompson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 > >HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > >BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on >the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish man". >And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > >(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event >will scar me til the end of my days) > >Layla. > > >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> >Mark Von Bargen writes: > > > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a >VERY > > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > > > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > > > > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and >then > > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! > >She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. > >FoFP _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Thu May 31 18:10:46 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:10:46 +0100 Subject: HW: US Long boxes Message-ID: Hi, Anybody know which US |long boxes exist for various HW CDs? I've got a couple .... Hawkwind & Doremi ... just curious about others. Do they still make long boxes in general (HW or otherwise)? Never saw the point in them myself, although Bush would no doubt relish the prospect of another opportunity to waste natural resources! Jez From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu May 31 19:17:03 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:17:03 -0400 Subject: HW. Calvert Interview Message-ID: Has anyone got the web site address of Tim Gadd's (from Tazmania IIRC) fantastic Calvert interview, only I've lost it. Many thanks Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu May 31 19:31:22 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:31:22 -0400 Subject: HW. Calvert Interview Message-ID: On Thu, 31 May 2001 19:17:03 -0400, Michael Crook wrote: >Has anyone got the web site address of Tim Gadd's (from Tazmania IIRC) >fantastic Calvert interview, only I've lost it. It WAS at: http://www.faof.org/~lupercal/radio/calvert/front.html But I was unable to connect right now. I have some (but not all) of the files downloaded; contact me off-list if you'd like me to send them. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Thu May 31 19:40:47 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:40:47 +0100 Subject: HW. Calvert Interview In-Reply-To: <200105312331.TAA10023@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200105312331.TAA10023 at listserv.spc.edu>, Doug Pearson writes >On Thu, 31 May 2001 19:17:03 -0400, Michael Crook >wrote: >>Has anyone got the web site address of Tim Gadd's (from Tazmania IIRC) >>fantastic Calvert interview, only I've lost it. > >It WAS at: >http://www.faof.org/~lupercal/radio/calvert/front.html > >But I was unable to connect right now. It's moved, now at http://lupercal.50megs.com/radio/calvert/contents.html >I have some (but not all) of the files downloaded; contact me off-list if >you'd like me to send them. > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > -- David Blair From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu May 31 19:44:59 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:44:59 -0400 Subject: OFF: Born to Communicate -- Internet goes Interplanetary Message-ID: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6029873.html?tag=st.ne.1003.saslnk.saseml -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Thu May 31 23:40:09 2001 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:40:09 -0700 Subject: HW: US Long boxes In-Reply-To: <000b01c0ea1e$b83b8200$db13883e@jezd> Message-ID: The original Xenon Codex had long boxes. Visually they are neat, but you just end up putting them away. If you find them so wasteful as to poke at Pres Bush, why did you get them? Sounds a bit hypocritical to me. Oh by the way, I hear Tony Blair wears silk pink panties. Which are quite comfortable, or so I've heard. At 11:10 PM 5/31/01 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, >Anybody know which US |long boxes exist for various HW CDs? >I've got a couple .... Hawkwind & Doremi ... just curious about others. >Do they still make long boxes in general (HW or otherwise)? >Never saw the point in them myself, although Bush would no doubt relish the >prospect of another opportunity to waste natural resources! >Jez > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu May 31 20:42:29 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:42:29 -0000 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Dear Layla, How would you like an all-expenses-paid trip to see me wiggle me hips in hamburg germany? You would be carried around the site on strong shoulders with flowers in your hair and trumpets playing. Mike c has ...i can't say it... oh...horrible scabs all over his body...and there is worse... oh god god Hows about it then my Hawkbeauty? >From: "Trev (Judge)" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:55:31 -0000 > >DEAR LAYLA - YOU'RE THE ONLY GIRL WHO LIKES HAWKWIND AND I LUV YOU > >JUDGE TREV > >SO THERE > > >>From: Layla Thompson >>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >>Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? >>Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 >> >>HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee >> >> >>BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on >>the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish >>man". >>And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... >> >>(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event >>will scar me til the end of my days) >> >>Layla. >> >> >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> >>Mark Von Bargen writes: >> >> > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a >>VERY >> > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) >> >> > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. >> > >> > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and >>then >> > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! >> >>She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. >> >>FoFP > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu May 31 21:05:21 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:05:21 -0400 Subject: OFF was HW: US Long boxes In-Reply-To: <4.1.20010531201437.03261220@mail.hypernova.net> Message-ID: At 20:40 5.31.01 -0700, you wrote: >The original Xenon Codex had long boxes. Visually they are neat, but you >just end up putting them away. > >If you find them so wasteful as to poke at Pres Bush, why did you get them? > Sounds a bit hypocritical to me. The explanation of the long box phenomena i once heard was to adjust to the size of the record bins still being used when record stores were on the verge of transition -- the size of the bin. Not to mention the awkwardness of the shape could be thought of as "detriment to shoplifting" When i bought MC5's kick out the jams it was in a long box duplicating a section of the cover, spanlgy suits and all. f course i no longer have it. jason From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu May 31 23:15:47 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:45:47 +0930 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: Noted :) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:03 AM Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > Make sure they have a layover in CLEVELAND on the way, so I can see them too > :-) STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:35 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > > > muuuugghhhhhh hahah ha ha ha > muuuuuaghgahghaghagha > > haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa > > I like it!!!! > > So what are we gonna do about getting Hawkwind over here in Adelaide and > there in Perth? > > Maybe we could spray paint HAWKWIND in letters 10 feet high accross > parliment hall and assorted buildings to begin with and > then...................... > Get the news reporters croaking? > > :) > > Mb > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill & Cynthia > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors > > > > > > > > > > I suppose Festival Records Australia could go down in history as the > > first > > > > enviromentally friendly company to recycle vinyl. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > Michael B wrote: > > > So the aussie WotEoT Could be a blend of old Kamahl records and > > Engelbert > > > Humperdink's not so well known Live LP: "Only ladies knicks on stage > > > PLEASE....." > > > Never heard of that one? The Album cover was a shocker tee hee > > > > > > Tee hee > > > > > > > "Oooh. Why is everybody sooooo unkind." > > > > Hey Michael - I've got that live album by Kamahl. Cover was really faded > and > > the print comes off in my hand. > > Muhahahahahahhhhhahahahahahahggggggggggggggggggnnnnnnxxxx > > > > > > Bill > > > > To Die or Yester Die > > From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu May 31 20:28:29 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 01:28:29 +0100 Subject: HW. Calvert Carlisle Stars & Stripes In-Reply-To: <200105312331.TAA10023@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hello, Can anybody tell me where the carlisle stars & stripes gig is posted if it is still there? Cheers Ben aka linuxchaos From prjt2501 at PTD.NET Wed May 30 23:57:57 2001 From: prjt2501 at PTD.NET (Project2501) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 23:57:57 -0400 Subject: HW. Calvert Carlisle Stars & Stripes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Try: http://208.50.7.128/icu/calvert.html Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Subject: Re: HW. Calvert Carlisle Stars & Stripes > > Hello, > Can anybody tell me where the carlisle stars & stripes gig is > posted if it is still there? From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu May 31 17:16:22 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:16:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Caption Competition Message-ID: <> Contrary to my better judgement: http://www.btinternet.com/~rich.warren/brixton1.jpg Follow the above link. OK then. Come up with a good caption for the picture on the link above (other than the obvious ones which were kindly supplied by my mate who travelled down to Brixton with me dressed like this) All Caption Suggestions to the list and I'll pick the best one. And just for the record it looked just as dodgy under the UV in the Beehive toilets. And the Prizes are: 4 Unused Tickets from the '25th Anniversary Tour' From 'Manchester Academy - 16/10/95','Liverpool Royal Court - 15/10/95','Glasgow Barrowlands - 12/10/95','Lancaster Sugarhouse - 13/10/95' 4 A5 Flyers from the Electric Tepee Gig on 29th April 1992, at Newcastle Upon Tyne. A Pack Of Stonhenge Playing Cards!! A Copy of the book 'TRAVELLERS - Voice of the New Age Nomads' by Richard Lowe and William Shaw (An Entertaining Read ;-) From vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed May 23 23:18:46 2001 From: vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Engineer Benny) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 04:18:46 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Transportation Message-ID: Theres now a group called Hawkwind Transportation. It?s an Information Service providing details of transport to Hawkwind Events. Resources include hiring a car, bus and train timings, fares and on the fly status, weather reports, accommodation and venue locations. You dont need to join to use any of the resources. You can refer to the files and links sections for documents and please add to them. Anyone wishing to share or hire cars & buses are invited to make the necessary arrangements here. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hawkwindtransportation/ Post message: hawkwindtransportation at yahoogroups.com Subscribe: hawkwindtransportation-subscribe at yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: hawkwindtransportation-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com List owner: hawkwindtransportation-owner at yahoogroups.com From vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu May 24 12:20:54 2001 From: vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Engineer Benny) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:20:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Astoria meet-up and passport holders In-Reply-To: <20030522190748.54974.qmail@web80512.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's the former Marquee (Mk 2) converted into a Huge Pub! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Linsley Sent: 22 May 2003 20:08 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Astoria meet-up and passport holders Nice one Ben. Wetherspoons pubs are ideal - big, good ale, do food. As Le Duc would say - Go Team. AL --- Ben Fagin wrote: > The Wetherspoons in Charing Cross Road is a fair bet, who says > everyone > has to meet at the same place? A better choice than The Tottenham > imho, > more Room & Space better Beer etc..... 1-2 minute walk to Astoria. > > Are you reading this Ali, Alan? > > The Moon Under Water, Charing Cross Road > > Address: 105-107 Charing Cross Rd, London, WC2H 0DT > Tel: 020 7287 6039 > > [click here for map] > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=529869&Y=181110&titl > e=Moon+Under+Water+-+location&back=Back+to+Moon+Under+Water+details&url= > http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/show.shtml/155/&arrow=Y&bimage=bgco > lor%3dccccff > > > > > Not to be confused with its Leicester Square cousin of the same name, > this is quite possibly the coolest of the London Wetherspoons pubs. > Located on the west side of the Charing Cross Road, just north of > Cambridge Circus, it's more like a bar than your average pub with its > extremely modern look (the result perhaps of extensive renovation in > late 1999). > > It's an enormous place - a small section as you come in, then down a > few > steps to the main floor with the bar on the left and tables ahead and > to > the right; some secluded behind walls for privacy. Plus staircases > lead > up to another floor looking down on the bar area. > > Reasonable prices and you don't have to wait too long at the > well-stocked bar. No music played, as is the case with all > Wetherspoons > pubs. __________________________________________________ It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm From vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu May 24 13:47:54 2001 From: vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Engineer Benny) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:47:54 +0100 Subject: OFF: FW: [Real Magick ] Judge Orders God To Break Up Into Smaller Deities Message-ID: Is this something of a breakthrough or does this happen all the time? Cheers Ben PS. It's OFF: but kinda Hawkwind related in a theoretical sense? Lol. -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Finn [mailto:cgs319446 at yahoo.com] Sent: 24 May 2003 17:52 To: realmagick at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Real Magick ] Judge Orders God To Break Up Into Smaller Deities > WASHINGTON, DC - Calling the theological giant's > stranglehold on the religion industry "blatantly > anti-competitive," a U.S. district judge ruled > Monday > that God is in violation of anti-monopoly laws and > ordered Him to be broken up into several less > powerful > deities. > > "The evidence introduced in this trial has convinced > me that the deity known as God has willfully and > actively thwarted competition from other deities and > demigods, promoting His worship with such unfair > scare > tactics as threatening non-believers with eternal > damnation," wrote District Judge Charles Elliot > Schofield in his decision. "In the process, He has > carved out for Himself an illegal monotheopoly." ROFLMAO again and again. It's funny that this would happen and it does sound kinda cool. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/EeWolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: realmagick-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/