From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Mar 1 01:30:29 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:30:29 +0800 Subject: HW: Spacebrock - the bottom line Message-ID: Captain Blackman of Electric Tepee fame said: > I bought a copy & I can say yes its worth owning as well!< Ordered mine yesterday! After much deliberation, I feel that when Hawkwind release a studio album I must have it. Dave Brock just may get the urge to retire sooner than we think. I am actually looking forward to this one. Cheers Bill From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Mar 1 01:54:37 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:54:37 +0800 Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] off: All APOLOGIES Message-ID: Yep. Keep those emails coming.... Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael W Blackman To: Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [Hawkwind] off: All APOLOGIES I'll add my support here (( with my best Monty Python - Brigadier General ... whathisname )) Nobody enjoys freedom of speech, a good yarn and a gosh darn wackky sense of humour - more than I..... Except maybe for my wife..... oh yes and the vicar...... and the butcher Come to think of it - most people enjoy freedom of speech, a good yarn and a gosh darn wackky sense of humour - more than I do - but thats besides the point bla bla bla, bla You're ok with me man! Mike B -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r.burton at HW.AC.UK Thu Mar 1 05:06:22 2001 From: r.burton at HW.AC.UK (Rob Burton) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:06:22 -0000 Subject: bedouin gig dates. Message-ID: actually I'm an incomer originally from Yorkshire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: 27 February 2001 18:38 Subject: Re: bedouin gig dates. > Michael W Blackman writes: > > > > > > How about Glasgow or = Edinburgh dates or even my local student > > > > union in Galashiels. > > > > Good God! Surely we're not letting Gala lads on the list now? > > > > -- A Teri FoFP > > > This is a Scottish thing? > > Nah. It's a Borders (the UK's 3rd mainland Country) thing. Gala is just > a few miles up the road from Hawick (where Teris come from) and they're > still upset that we're Capital of the Borders :-) > > FoFP From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Thu Mar 1 08:27:10 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:27:10 -0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten Progressive Rock Message-ID: Michael Blackman asked: >Would that be the same Bill Bailey that was at the Beehive before the >Brixton show?? Dunno, but it would be the same Bill Bailey who appeared in the recent Channel 4 comedy 'Black Books', in one episode of which he was addressed 'Hey you- Hawkwind' due to the fact that he was wearing long hair and a Hawaiian shirt. So there you go, a fact. Of dubious relevance to Hawkwind, and the Hawaiian shirt connection is even more dubious, but nevertheless a fact. Mark From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Mar 1 09:14:05 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:14:05 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 2/24 (and NOTE) Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions or requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck NOTE: This SATURDAY, SDNC will not air due to the fact that I will be in the Bay Area (Cal) for the weekend. There is a possibility that my replacement (not yet solidified) will attempt something of a similar nature, but that's certainly not guaranteed. Still, if you can, check out DJ Mizzen's "Audio Alchemy" from 9--11 for something equally interesting. Oh, and if anyone wants to hang out in Frisco, shoot me a note! Thanks. 2/24 1.Hawkwind--"The Camera That Could Not Lie" (It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous; Decide Your Future EP) 2.Spirits Burning--"Smart Messages in the Sand" (New Worlds By Design) 3.Gong--"Hymnalayas" (Shapeshifter) 4.Sky Cries Mary--"Every Iceberg is Afire " (Every Iceberg is Afire EP) 5.Vine Sweetland and the Forefather of the New Millenium--excerpt (Light Shining in the Distance) 6.The Shalabi Effect--"Apparitions" (ST'd) 7.Ozric Tentacles--"Pteranodon" (Jurassic Shift) 8.Salamander--"Old Mr. Jones" (Serotonin Ronin II comp) 9.Helios Creed--"Some Way Out/The Dream/The Diplomat" (The Last Laugh) 10.Slave Cylinder--"Kalchbulcenter" (Bloomington Electronic Music Coalition comp) 11.Pressurehed--"Valiant Thor" (Explaining the Unexplained) 12.Psychic Atters--"Made in Sheffield" (Mystic Minutes) 13.Neu!--"Neuschnee" (Neu! 2) 14.Word of Life--"When I was in Space.../Way to Go) (...To Dust) 15.Malcolm Mooney and the Tenth Planet--"Old Ship 2" (ST'd) 16.Defender--"Zipcode" (Promo--played half-way through before being blasphemously truncated at 6:55 by good ol' Bill E and the Riverside Highlanders basketball game...grrr...) thanks, Chuck From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Mar 1 10:34:24 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:34:24 -0500 Subject: HW: Weird CDs Message-ID: Anyone in the US who is looking for the Weird CDs, I found #4 and #6 in a local shop yesterday. I'm not sure how rare these are in the states, but let me know if you'd like to trade and I can pick up one or both for you. Brian From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 1 10:53:06 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:53:06 GMT Subject: Subscribe? Message-ID: I thought we'd got Ed subscribed but he says he hasn't been getting any email from the list. He's at: "Jobson, Ed" Cheers Mike From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 1 10:59:23 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:59:23 GMT Subject: HW: Top Ten In-Reply-To: david hall's message of Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:39:01 -0000 Message-ID: david hall writes: > Dave B, of course.....Lemmy - probably....Nik (with the self-styled = > "spirit of Hawkwind" vibe) - yup. What about Dave Anderson with a public = > apology for the crap live releases. Apology? I want self-immolation at the least. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 1 11:02:32 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:02:32 GMT Subject: bedouin gig dates. In-Reply-To: Rob Burton's message of Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:06:22 -0000 Message-ID: Rob Burton writes: > > > > > How about Glasgow or = Edinburgh dates or even my local student > > > > > union in Galashiels. > > > > > > Good God! Surely we're not letting Gala lads on the list now? > > > > > > -- A Teri FoFP > > > > > This is a Scottish thing? > > > > Nah. It's a Borders (the UK's 3rd mainland Country) thing. Gala is just > > a few miles up the road from Hawick (where Teris come from) and they're > > still upset that we're Capital of the Borders :-) > actually I'm an incomer originally from Yorkshire. That's all right then. Watch out for those folks in Gala though. I've heard they even let women ride horses over there. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 1 11:38:54 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:38:54 GMT Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? Message-ID: That's what it looks lie. See www.ebay.com and search on "Hawkwind" From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 1 11:51:42 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:51:42 GMT Subject: what are these? Message-ID: Gemm lists two CD's: Future Reconstructions Legends Collection Anyone know what these are? FoFP From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Mar 1 11:53:48 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:53:48 -0500 Subject: Subscribe? Message-ID: Surely not THE Eddie Jobson? M Holmes wrote: > I thought we'd got Ed subscribed but he says he hasn't been getting any > email from the list. He's at: > > "Jobson, Ed" > > Cheers > > Mike > > -- "The salvation of mankind lies only in making everything the concern of all." -- Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Thu Mar 1 12:00:15 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:00:15 -0000 Subject: what are these? Message-ID: future reconstruction is a collection of remixes of hawkwind tracks. I personally quite like it. I think live legends is another kind of castle "greatest hits" collection. Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] Sent: 01 March 2001 16:52 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: what are these? Gemm lists two CD's: Future Reconstructions Legends Collection Anyone know what these are? 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Captain Bl at ck ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: HW: Top Ten The mind boggles as to which members and ex(ish)members have been interviewed. Dave B, of course.....Lemmy - probably....Nik (with the self-styled "spirit of Hawkwind" vibe) - yup. What about Dave Anderson with a public apology for the crap live releases. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Mar 1 13:39:24 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:39:24 -0000 Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? In-Reply-To: <200103011638.QAA15851@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: looks like a cool thing to have but the price has already gone over 100 dollars!! :-( colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 01 March 2001 16:39 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? That's what it looks lie. See www.ebay.com and search on "Hawkwind" From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Thu Mar 1 13:52:09 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:52:09 -0000 Subject: HW: Yuri help Message-ID: Hello Folks, A while ago we asked how many releases (including different name versions) there had been of the "Bring me the Head of Yuri Gagarin" album. We are now looking for the covers and catalogue numbers. Scans of the covers would be most welcome! Thanks to all, See you at Croydon HW -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 1 13:59:56 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:59:56 +0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten In-Reply-To: <005901c0a27a$721d3340$4c0c28d5@starfield> Message-ID: In article <005901c0a27a$721d3340$4c0c28d5 at starfield>, Captain Bl at ck writes > > Bill Bailey - is this the same guy that contributes to the list? No, this is the "Human Slaves Of An Insect Nation!" Bill Bailey -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 1 13:58:00 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:58:00 +0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten Progressive Rock In-Reply-To: <001a01c0a253$5201aa40$fb38fa8a@resnet.cranfield.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <001a01c0a253$5201aa40$fb38fa8a at resnet.cranfield.ac.uk>, Mark Jermy writes >So there you go, a fact. Of dubious relevance to Hawkwind, and the Hawaiian >shirt connection is even more dubious, but nevertheless a fact. > >Mark another connection, albeit even more tenuous is the fact that he plays the comic shop owner in the C4 comedy series Spaced, which was filmed in my store, where the Hawks have been (as you all know by know) on pretty much constant rotation. Told you it was tenuous. -- Jon From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Mar 1 14:19:58 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:19:58 -0000 Subject: HW: Weird CDs Message-ID: Weird 6 is currently out of print in the UK with no sign of a repress, so........... Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 3:34 PM Subject: HW: Weird CDs > Anyone in the US who is looking for the Weird CDs, I found #4 and #6 in a > local shop yesterday. I'm not sure how rare these are in the states, but let > me know if you'd like to trade and I can pick up one or both for you. > > Brian From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Mar 1 14:17:18 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:17:18 -0500 Subject: HW: Weird CDs In-Reply-To: <00b001c0a285$8252fa00$8a1abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: It's already been spoken for, but I'll certainly keep my eye out for other copies. Brian NP> Gorky's Zygotic Mynci "Spanish Dance Troupe" Andy Garibaldi wrote: > Weird 6 is currently out of print in the UK with no sign of a repress, > so........... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Halligan" >> Anyone in the US who is looking for the Weird CDs, I found #4 and #6 in a >> local shop yesterday. I'm not sure how rare these are in the states, but > let >> me know if you'd like to trade and I can pick up one or both for you. >> >> Brian From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Mar 1 14:18:26 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:18:26 -0500 Subject: HW: Weird CDs Message-ID: Actually it was 2 and 4 and I just bought them.... Mike ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > Weird 6 is currently out of print in the UK with no sign of a repress, > so........... > Andy Garibaldi. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Halligan" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 3:34 PM > Subject: HW: Weird CDs > > >> Anyone in the US who is looking for the Weird CDs, I found #4 and #6 in a >> local shop yesterday. I'm not sure how rare these are in the states, but > > let > >> me know if you'd like to trade and I can pick up one or both for you. >> >> Brian > -- "The salvation of mankind lies only in making everything the concern of all." -- Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Mar 1 14:33:50 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:33:50 -0500 Subject: HW: Weird CDs In-Reply-To: <3A9EA082.3020304@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: > Actually it was 2 and 4 and I just bought them.... > > Mike Huh, I could have sworn it was #6. Well, now that I know it's out of print, if I see #6 around I'll certainly wait and see if I can build up the price for it. ;-) Brian From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 1 14:32:26 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:32:26 GMT Subject: HW: Top Ten Progressive Rock In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:35:40 -0500 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > I saw an article about Mr Bailey in the Guardian where he was described as > looking 'like a Hawkwind roadie on a bad night'. > He looks a lot like Dave Watson - the author of the "Born To Go" book. FoFP From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Mar 1 15:10:25 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:10:25 -0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten Message-ID: >> Bill Bailey - is this the same guy that contributes to the list? > >No, this is the "Human Slaves Of An Insect Nation!" Bill Bailey >-- >Jon And "The Leg of TIme"! Bill Bailey also did a semi-regular spot on Mark & Lard's old night-time show where he and (I think) Sean Lock were Bill Best of legendary (and fictional) west-country 70's rockers Taunton and his loyal roadie, always preparing for their comeback tour. Taunton's biggest hit was the mighty "Space Tractor"! Nick From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Mar 1 16:08:13 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:08:13 -0500 Subject: OFF: FWD: MiniKorgs galore Message-ID: Just in case someone in the states (or someone willing to pay shipping from the states) is looking for the analog monosynth that Simon House used with Hawkwind - see the 'Thrilling Adventures' insert (Univox was the American "label" for Korg through the mid-70's) ... I already have too many old Korgs! from the http://www.harmony-central.com classifieds ... >The Ultimate Univox Mini-Korg Collection >Asking Price: US$N/A >Condition: Excellent >Production Year: 1973 >Description: >Three different Univox Mini-Korgs all in one single collection. >One Univox Mini-Korg K-1 (700) and two different versions of the >Univox Mini-Korg K-2 (700S). All three are in excellent shape and in >excellent working condition. If you would like to hear a sample of >what they sound like just simply crank up any early tune from Greg >Hawkes and 'The Cars'. > >Seller: Mark H, >E-mail: mark at synths.net (Profile) >Location: Saint Petersburg, FL From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 1 16:43:45 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:43:45 +0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten Progressive Rock In-Reply-To: <200103011932.TAA19194@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In message <200103011932.TAA19194 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Nick Medford writes: > >> I saw an article about Mr Bailey in the Guardian where he was described as >> looking 'like a Hawkwind roadie on a bad night'. >> > >He looks a lot like Dave Watson - the author of the "Born To Go" book. And there's a Gun Club song called 'Bill Bailey'... a fact which has even less relevance than the others posted so far... -- Nick Medford From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Mar 1 18:21:02 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:21:02 -0000 Subject: HW: Yuri help Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- > From: XXX > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 6:52 PM > Subject: HW: Yuri help > > Hello Folks, > > A while ago we asked how many releases (including different name versions) there had been of the > "Bring me the Head of Yuri Gagarin" album. > We are now looking for the covers and catalogue numbers. > > Scans of the covers would be most welcome! > ===================================== >From the archives: Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:44:46 -0500 From: Bolts of Ungodly Vision Subject: Re: HW:Yuri Gagarin At 19:12 11.5.00 -0000, you wrote: > Hello folks, Here is a question for you............. how many times, >Bring me the Head of Y G. has been released, including releases under >other titles? HW According to the discog. at http://www.adawson.clara.net//bring-me.html As "Bring Me the head of YG" Vinyl Album U.K Demi Monde DM 002 Jan 1985 Compact disc U.K/France Decal CDCHARLY 40 Nov 1986 Compact disc U.K/USA/Germany Thunderbolt CDTB 101 Jan 1993 Compact disc USA Magnum America MACD 040 Mar 1996 CD digipak France Spalax Music SPALAXCD14846 ??? 1996 AS part of "Welcome to the Future" box: Compact disc UK Dressed to Kill CLP0220-2 Feb 1998 As "Live": Compact disc U.K Brilliant BT 33032 Mar 2000 As "Year 2000:Codename Hawkwind volume Two Alive from the Darkside": Compact disc U.K Burning Airlines PILOT 64 Sep 2000 Beats grading midterms! Jason ============== {also} 1985 Live '70/'73 (Castle Dojo) [live early tracks] - vinyl DOJO LP 11 1985 Castle Communications [reissued as Welcome To The Future] 1985 Welcome To The Future (Mausoleum Records) - vinyl SKULL 83103 SABAM-T.M (on label) Division of Eldorado Entertainment & Communications [reissue of Live '70/'73] 1987 Early Daze (Thunderbolt) (Early live tracks all previously reissued) - vinyl THBL 044 Magnum Music Group 1994(?) Silver Machine [Legend CD] (Probably a reissue of Early Daze CD) {no info - sorry!} Scans of album covers may not be possible since they are larger than A4 - can anyone do this? ==================================== > Thanks to all, > > See you at Croydon > > HW Hope so! Railtrack and weather willing..... jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 1 19:19:31 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:19:31 EST Subject: HW: Weird CDs Message-ID: In a message dated 3/1/01 2:31:43 PM US Eastern Standard Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > Huh, I could have sworn it was #6. Well, now that I know it's out of print, > if I see #6 around I'll certainly wait and see if I can build up the price > for it. ;-) > > # 2 & 4 may now be OOP, but #6 was definitely OOP. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 1 19:50:47 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:50:47 +0000 Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? In-Reply-To: <200103011638.QAA15851@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In message <200103011638.QAA15851 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >That's what it looks lie. See > >www.ebay.com and search on "Hawkwind" Bidding now over $200! I will happily admit to never having looked at ebay before, and I had no idea there would be so much HW-related stuff for sale. In particular I noticed this: -Robert Calvert/Hawkwind- Catapilla -SUPER RARE IMPORT COLLECTIBLE! The Hawkwind / Calvert connection continues with "Catapilla": a 1971 reissue on the brilliant Italian AKARMA label. 4 tracks: "Naked Death," "Tumbleweed," "Promises," "Embryonic Fusion." What the hell is this? Never heard of any of these tracks. Is it for real? I probably shouldn't post this query here, 'cos if it is a genuine article, all you krazy kollectors are going to ensure I don't get a sniff of it, but I'm too curious not to ask. -- Nick Medford From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Mar 1 21:10:03 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:10:03 EST Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/1/01 4:51:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > I will happily admit to never having looked at ebay before, and I had no > idea there would be so much HW-related stuff for sale. In particular I > noticed this: > > -Robert Calvert/Hawkwind- Catapilla > > -SUPER RARE IMPORT COLLECTIBLE! The Hawkwind / Calvert > connection continues with "Catapilla": a 1971 reissue on the brilliant > Italian > AKARMA label. 4 tracks: "Naked Death," "Tumbleweed," "Promises," > "Embryonic Fusion." > > What the hell is this? Never heard of any of these tracks. Is it for real? > > I probably shouldn't post this query here, 'cos if it is a genuine article, > all > you krazy kollectors are going to ensure I don't get a sniff of it, but I'm > too > curious not to ask. > > -- > Nick Medford > Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Mar 1 21:14:18 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:14:18 EST Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? Message-ID: Apologies for that last post. I accidently sent before I typed my message. This Catapilla Lp is the classic "incorrectly put into Hawkwind catagory" record. It isn't the Robert Calvert of Hawkwind and I always chatise record stores that seem to always put this Lp into the Hawkwind bin. I hate when people do this. bob In a message dated 3/1/01 4:51:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > I will happily admit to never having looked at ebay before, and I had no > idea there would be so much HW-related stuff for sale. In particular I > noticed this: > > -Robert Calvert/Hawkwind- Catapilla > > -SUPER RARE IMPORT COLLECTIBLE! The Hawkwind / Calvert > connection continues with "Catapilla": a 1971 reissue on the brilliant > Italian > AKARMA label. 4 tracks: "Naked Death," "Tumbleweed," "Promises," > "Embryonic Fusion." > > What the hell is this? Never heard of any of these tracks. Is it for real? > > I probably shouldn't post this query here, 'cos if it is a genuine article, > all > you krazy kollectors are going to ensure I don't get a sniff of it, but I'm > too > curious not to ask. > > -- > Nick Medford > Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 1 21:18:15 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:48:15 +1030 Subject: HW: Top Ten Progressive Rock Message-ID: The Brixton Bill Bailey has a photo on my Hawkestra page at the electric tepee http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Electric_Tepee.htm If you wouldn't mind could ye look for me - please curiosity of ten cats Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Jermy To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:57 PM Subject: HW: Top Ten Progressive Rock > Michael Blackman asked: > >Would that be the same Bill Bailey that was at the Beehive before the > >Brixton show?? > Dunno, but it would be the same Bill Bailey who appeared in the recent > Channel 4 comedy 'Black Books', in one episode of which he was addressed > 'Hey you- Hawkwind' due to the fact that he was wearing long hair and a > Hawaiian shirt. > > So there you go, a fact. Of dubious relevance to Hawkwind, and the Hawaiian > shirt connection is even more dubious, but nevertheless a fact. > > Mark > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 1 21:34:23 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:04:23 +1030 Subject: OFF: FWD: MiniKorgs galore Message-ID: How Much? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Pearson To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 7:38 AM Subject: OFF: FWD: MiniKorgs galore > Just in case someone in the states (or someone willing to pay shipping from > the states) is looking for the analog monosynth that Simon House used with > Hawkwind - see the 'Thrilling Adventures' insert (Univox was the > American "label" for Korg through the mid-70's) ... I already have too many > old Korgs! > > from the http://www.harmony-central.com classifieds ... > >The Ultimate Univox Mini-Korg Collection > >Asking Price: US$N/A > >Condition: Excellent > >Production Year: 1973 > >Description: > >Three different Univox Mini-Korgs all in one single collection. > >One Univox Mini-Korg K-1 (700) and two different versions of the > >Univox Mini-Korg K-2 (700S). All three are in excellent shape and in > >excellent working condition. If you would like to hear a sample of > >what they sound like just simply crank up any early tune from Greg > >Hawkes and 'The Cars'. > > > >Seller: Mark H, > >E-mail: mark at synths.net (Profile) > >Location: Saint Petersburg, FL From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 01:45:52 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:45:52 -0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten Progressive Rock Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Browne To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 6:58 PM Subject: Re: HW: Top Ten Progressive Rock > another connection, albeit even more tenuous is the fact that he plays > the comic shop owner in the C4 comedy series Spaced, which was filmed in > my store, where the Hawks have been (as you all know by know) on pretty > much constant rotation. Told you it was tenuous. Out of curiosity - which comic shop is this, Jon? Ian From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Mar 2 03:35:58 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:35:58 -0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten Progressive Rock In-Reply-To: <002501c0a2bf$0a7ea8a0$e5cb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: That'll be a different Bill Bailey then! :-) Cheers, R. > > The Brixton Bill Bailey has a photo on my Hawkestra page at the electric > tepee > > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Electric_Tepee.htm > > If you wouldn't mind could ye look for me - please > > curiosity of ten cats > Michael B > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Mar 2 04:03:31 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:03:31 -0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten Progressive Rock Message-ID: >The Brixton Bill Bailey has a photo on my Hawkestra page at the electric >tepee Not the same, Nick From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 2 04:30:40 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:00:40 +1030 Subject: HW: Top Ten Progressive Rock Message-ID: THANK YOU SIR ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Lockwood To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 7:05 PM Subject: Re: HW: Top Ten Progressive Rock > That'll be a different Bill Bailey then! > > :-) > > Cheers, > > R. > > > > > > The Brixton Bill Bailey has a photo on my Hawkestra page at the electric > > tepee > > > > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Electric_Tepee.htm > > > > If you wouldn't mind could ye look for me - please > > > > curiosity of ten cats > > Michael B > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Mar 2 04:41:37 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:41:37 -0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten Progressive Rock In-Reply-To: <001901c0a2fb$73132760$c4cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: The official Bill Bailey website can be found (funnily enough) at http://www.billbailey.co.uk/. Rather good it is too. As you'd expect. Cheers, Rich. > > THANK YOU SIR > > > > That'll be a different Bill Bailey then! > > > > :-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > R. > > > > > > > > > > The Brixton Bill Bailey has a photo on my Hawkestra page at the > electric > > > tepee > > > > > > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Electric_Tepee.htm > > > > > > If you wouldn't mind could ye look for me - please > > > > > > curiosity of ten cats > > > Michael B > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 2 05:11:40 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 04:11:40 -0600 Subject: HW: trades..... In-Reply-To: <001901c0a2fb$73132760$c4cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: hello people... insomnia alive in Texas....... here's a weird couple (of requests) for you... I am seeking copies in SUPREME condition of the following... 1) A CANADIAN WARRIOR LP.....need cover CLEAN, don't care about vinyl ....this is identified only by catalog # UALA 465G on upper right hand of back cover...also, this copy has no pocket for the record, the LP just sits in the shield...... 2) A german LP pressing of Warrior...as above, seek CLEAN cover, no concern on the vinyl condition ,,(have mint already) 3) A british pressing of Warrior shield, BUT! the pressing that DOES NOT HAVE the little white "hair" in the upper right hand corner of FRONT cover, that runs just parallel to top edge of sleeve.... Does anybody have a BEATIFUL CONDITION LP of the "DELIRED CAMELEON FAMILY" LP, they would sell or trade??....this is a relation of the band CLEARLIGHT from France!!! Is anyone out there an expert on Adrian Wagner???....I need a pro with a discography!!!! inc.45 singles!!! Among things I have to trade with (possibly...better be a good offer) is the japaneese LP pressing of Nik Turners SPHYNX LP, which I think is safe to say that this is a truly MEGA RARE item, and I HATE when people use that terminology....it does not have the OBI, but I can do a nice reproduction, as I already have for Nik's copy..(sorry Nik..it came out GREAT though!!) I will buy/trade/beg you to death..whatever.... mike coleman PS,,,Anyone able to locate Hassan 45's yet??? GOOD ONES! hurry up!!! somebody go raid a collection, and you'll have plenty of CD money from me!!!! stay out of this FoFP...I'm onto a greek CD for you, if you didn't get yet..hold tight!!! From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Fri Mar 2 05:27:39 2001 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas, Guy) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:27:39 -0000 Subject: HW: trades..... Message-ID: Mike - I've got a British fold-out Warrior LP with a Mike Moorcock autograph on it too. I'll have to check for the white hair when I get home. Interested? Guy -----Original Message----- From: Mike Coleman [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: 02 March 2001 10:12 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: trades..... hello people... insomnia alive in Texas....... here's a weird couple (of requests) for you... I am seeking copies in SUPREME condition of the following... 1) A CANADIAN WARRIOR LP.....need cover CLEAN, don't care about vinyl ....this is identified only by catalog # UALA 465G on upper right hand of back cover...also, this copy has no pocket for the record, the LP just sits in the shield...... 2) A german LP pressing of Warrior...as above, seek CLEAN cover, no concern on the vinyl condition ,,(have mint already) 3) A british pressing of Warrior shield, BUT! the pressing that DOES NOT HAVE the little white "hair" in the upper right hand corner of FRONT cover, that runs just parallel to top edge of sleeve.... Does anybody have a BEATIFUL CONDITION LP of the "DELIRED CAMELEON FAMILY" LP, they would sell or trade??....this is a relation of the band CLEARLIGHT from France!!! Is anyone out there an expert on Adrian Wagner???....I need a pro with a discography!!!! inc.45 singles!!! Among things I have to trade with (possibly...better be a good offer) is the japaneese LP pressing of Nik Turners SPHYNX LP, which I think is safe to say that this is a truly MEGA RARE item, and I HATE when people use that terminology....it does not have the OBI, but I can do a nice reproduction, as I already have for Nik's copy..(sorry Nik..it came out GREAT though!!) I will buy/trade/beg you to death..whatever.... mike coleman PS,,,Anyone able to locate Hassan 45's yet??? GOOD ONES! hurry up!!! somebody go raid a collection, and you'll have plenty of CD money from me!!!! stay out of this FoFP...I'm onto a greek CD for you, if you didn't get yet..hold tight!!! From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Fri Mar 2 11:07:50 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Ed) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:07:50 -0500 Subject: Original Silver Machine recording Message-ID: Anyone know if the original version of Silver Machine released on Glastonbury Fayre is available anywhere else? Thanks, Eddie. From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 06:33:00 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:33:00 -0000 Subject: Original Silver Machine recording Message-ID: Eddie asked: >Anyone know if the original version of Silver Machine released on >Glastonbury Fayre is available anywhere else? The Glasto versions of SM & Welcome are also featured on a bootleg CD called "Dawn of Hawkwind" (as distinct from the recent legit release of the same name), but I'm unaware of any other non-boot versions. Dave From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Fri Mar 2 11:49:47 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Ed) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:49:47 -0500 Subject: Original Silver Machine recording In-Reply-To: <002401c0a30c$8db5a280$b03b70c2@merlinas> Message-ID: Yeah I have the fold out dawn of hawkwind original but that's it. Thanks anyway. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of David Bottomley Sent: 02 March 2001 06:33 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Original Silver Machine recording Eddie asked: >Anyone know if the original version of Silver Machine released on >Glastonbury Fayre is available anywhere else? The Glasto versions of SM & Welcome are also featured on a bootleg CD called "Dawn of Hawkwind" (as distinct from the recent legit release of the same name), but I'm unaware of any other non-boot versions. Dave From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 07:02:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:02:00 +0000 Subject: HW: Aldershot Message-ID: Anyone here going to the HW gig at Aldershot? Having missed Brixton and the Astoria, I'm finally going to make a concert 8-)))) (special permission from wife) Bedouin as well! Steve Litchfield "Simon King and Hawkwind", http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 07:04:51 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:04:51 -0000 Subject: Aldershot and croydon Message-ID: can any remind me what date the croydon gig is? i don't have net access at work many thanks Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: Steve Litchfield [mailto:slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK] Sent: 02 March 2001 12:02 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Aldershot Anyone here going to the HW gig at Aldershot? Having missed Brixton and the Astoria, I'm finally going to make a concert 8-)))) (special permission from wife) Bedouin as well! Steve Litchfield "Simon King and Hawkwind", http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 2 07:25:42 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:25:42 EST Subject: Aldershot and croydon Message-ID: In a message dated 3/2/01 7:04:53 AM, cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK writes: << can any remind me what date the croydon gig is? >> That would be Sunday March 25. From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 07:42:04 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:42:04 -0000 Subject: HW: Spring tour Message-ID: Does anyone know the band line-up for the upcoming HW mini-tour? Dave From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 2 07:46:16 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:46:16 GMT Subject: Original Silver Machine recording In-Reply-To: Jobson, Ed's message of Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:07:50 -0500 Message-ID: Jobson, Ed writes: > Anyone know if the original version of Silver Machine released on > Glastonbury Fayre is available anywhere else? Only on the Assassins of Allah and Dawn of Hawkwind boots. FoFP (Keeper of the Codex). Welcome to the Future Ed! From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Fri Mar 2 12:52:56 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Ed) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:52:56 -0500 Subject: Original Silver Machine recording In-Reply-To: <200103021246.MAA23337@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Mike. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 02 March 2001 07:46 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Original Silver Machine recording Jobson, Ed writes: > Anyone know if the original version of Silver Machine released on > Glastonbury Fayre is available anywhere else? Only on the Assassins of Allah and Dawn of Hawkwind boots. FoFP (Keeper of the Codex). Welcome to the Future Ed! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 2 08:13:23 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:43:23 +1030 Subject: hawkwind related - sort of - audio engineer Message-ID: Hey Starr Warriors Does anyone know the following: Are there any reasonable paying jobs for qualified audio engineersin the London area that would give time off on the dates when Hawkwind perform (studio/live) during the march april Hawkwind mini tour season? Just a shot in the dark :) Michael B -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 08:16:18 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:16:18 -0500 Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:14:18 EST, Bob Lennon wrote: >Apologies for that last post. I accidently sent before I typed my message. >This Catapilla Lp is the classic "incorrectly put into Hawkwind catagory" >record. >It isn't the Robert Calvert of Hawkwind and I always chatise record stores >that seem to always put this Lp into the Hawkwind bin. I hate when people do >this. >bob Thanks for the info. Is it the Mother-Gong Robert Calvert then? Not that I would want it if it were, but still curious... Cheers Nick From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 08:26:45 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:26:45 -0000 Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? Message-ID: surely these studio tapes are the property of United Artists/EMI or the band members at the time of the recording? Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: Nick Medford [mailto:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: 02 March 2001 13:16 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:14:18 EST, Bob Lennon wrote: >Apologies for that last post. I accidently sent before I typed my message. >This Catapilla Lp is the classic "incorrectly put into Hawkwind catagory" >record. >It isn't the Robert Calvert of Hawkwind and I always chatise record stores >that seem to always put this Lp into the Hawkwind bin. I hate when people do >this. >bob Thanks for the info. Is it the Mother-Gong Robert Calvert then? Not that I would want it if it were, but still curious... Cheers Nick *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Mar 2 08:51:29 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:51:29 -0500 Subject: BOC: News Message-ID: BOC's as-yet-untitled album has been put on the schedule for a June 5 release. So mark your calendars! ---- CBS/SONY is going to be re-releasing the entire BOC catalog, remastered with extra bonus unreleased tracks. The first of these releases are slated for early summer (no set date for releases yet). The first releases will be the first four studio albums. Each record will include four bonus tracks and booklets with liner notes by noted musician and producer Lenny Kaye (Patti Smith Group, producer of Nuggets). The releases will continue in groups of four until the entire catalogue has been re-issued. Here's what's in store for the first 4 releases: Blue Oyster Cult: (From The band's original Columbia demo:) -What is Quicksand -A Fact About Sneakers -Donovan's Monkey -Betty Lou Got A New Pair Of Shoes (These songs are completely different versions than the songs of the same titles on the upcoming Rhino Stalk-Forrest group release) Tyranny & Mutation: will have 3 Live tracks: -Cities On Flame With Rock & Roll (From the Original Bootleg EP) -7 Screaming Diz-Busters (From BOC Live In The West 1975) -O.D.'d On Life Itself (From BOC LIve In The West 1975) -Buck's Boogie (Original studio version from 1973) Secret Treaties: -Born To Be Wild (Originally available as a single in 1974) -Mommy -Boorman The Chauffeur -Madame Serrat Agents Of Fortune: -(Don't Fear) The Reaper (Buck's original home demo) -Dance The Night Away (Allen's original home demo with Allen singing) -Sally (Pre-Production) -Fire Of Unknown Origin -- "The salvation of mankind lies only in making everything the concern of all." -- Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn From Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Mar 2 09:17:20 2001 From: Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE (Rainer Wangler) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:17:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Yuri help Message-ID: hello, also released as Silver Machine CD at Legend WZ 90144 germany 1994 Silver Machine CD at Cosmus 5441153 germany 1994 Rainer XXX schrieb: > Hello Folks, > > A while ago we asked how many releases (including different name versions) > there had been of the "Bring me the Head of Yuri Gagarin" album. > We are now looking for the covers and catalogue numbers. > Scans of the covers would be most welcome! > > Thanks to all, > > See you at Croydon > > HW > > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 09:42:01 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:42:01 -0500 Subject: HW: Aldershot Message-ID: Yes, Croydon & Aldershot tickets are nestling in my drawer right now! COLIN From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Mar 2 09:46:57 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:46:57 EST Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/2/01 8:27:14 AM, cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK writes: << surely these studio tapes are the property of United Artists/EMI or the band members at the time of the recording? >> ======== okay....that's IT! "Space Ritual" was a LIVE album; so what are these 'studio tapes' supposed to be? the original 12/72 multitrack reels? what did i miss here? why did no one else point out the obvious? "<>" From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 2 09:52:17 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:52:17 GMT Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: As luck would have it, this is on the weekend *after* my week off. Where is Faversham? Would it be easy to train there from Edinburgh on the Friday night? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 2 09:53:00 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:53:00 GMT Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:16:18 -0500 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:14:18 EST, Bob Lennon wrote: > > >Apologies for that last post. I accidently sent before I typed my message. > >This Catapilla Lp is the classic "incorrectly put into Hawkwind catagory" > >record. > >It isn't the Robert Calvert of Hawkwind and I always chatise record stores > >that seem to always put this Lp into the Hawkwind bin. I hate when people > do > >this. > >bob > > Thanks for the info. Is it the Mother-Gong Robert Calvert then? Yep. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 2 09:53:36 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:53:36 GMT Subject: HW: Yuri help In-Reply-To: Rainer Wangler's message of Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:17:20 +0100 Message-ID: Rainer Wangler writes: > hello, > also released as > Silver Machine CD at Legend WZ 90144 germany 1994 > > Silver Machine CD at Cosmus 5441153 germany 1994 And boy are those hard to find.... FoFP From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 10:12:57 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:12:57 -0500 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: Virtually impossible I would say:( Faversham is in Kent, just north-west of Canterbury; it is also home to the Shepherd Neame brewery; the oldest independent brewery in England and producer of some fine ales! Colin From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Mar 2 10:12:16 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:12:16 EST Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/2/01 8:16:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:14:18 EST, Bob Lennon wrote: > > >Apologies for that last post. I accidently sent before I typed my message. > >This Catapilla Lp is the classic "incorrectly put into Hawkwind catagory" > >record. > >It isn't the Robert Calvert of Hawkwind and I always chatise record stores > >that seem to always put this Lp into the Hawkwind bin. I hate when people > do > >this. > >bob > > Thanks for the info. Is it the Mother-Gong Robert Calvert then? Not that I > would want it if it were, but still curious... > > Cheers > > Nick > Nick, >From what I remember (as I'm not a mommy-gong fan) it is the same Robert Calvert. I believe he is credited on this Lp as playing sax. bob From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 10:19:01 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:19:01 -0500 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: If you get down to London on the Friday night a Saturday morning train would get you there in time though! Colin From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 2 10:18:18 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:18:18 EST Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/2/01 9:48:07 AM, DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: << okay....that's IT! "Space Ritual" was a LIVE album; so what are these 'studio tapes' supposed to be? the original 12/72 multitrack reels? what did i miss here? why did no one else point out the obvious? >> Obviously the original live "field" or "board" recordings from the gigs were edited and mixed down to other master tapes to provide the source for the album. I would presume that that is what these tapes are, the edited mix mster from which the record was mastered for pressing. As to who really owns the stuff-unfortunately its probably the party with the best legal muscle and cash to spend on enforcment. Just my opinion, Eli From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Mar 2 10:22:50 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:22:50 -0000 Subject: Canterbury festival In-Reply-To: <200103021512.KAA19495@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: And producers of some of the finest xenophobic and homophobic ads ever. "Shepherd Neame Spitfire - Downed all over Kent. Just Like The Luftwaffe" "Shepherd Neame Spitfire - only tail-gunners drink lager" I have friends (neither German nor gay) who find them quite offensive. I laugh my arse off (if you see what I mean), and it's a top pint... :-) Cheers, Rich. ObToon: Born To Be Wild - Ozzy and Miss Piggy > > Virtually impossible I would say:( > > Faversham is in Kent, just north-west of Canterbury; it is also > home to the > Shepherd Neame brewery; the oldest independent brewery in England and > producer of some fine ales! > > Colin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Mar 2 10:24:50 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:24:50 -0000 Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > As to who > really owns > the stuff-unfortunately its probably the party with the best > legal muscle and > cash to spend on enforcment. Just my opinion, Eli Possession is nine tenths of the law. (So why did I get busted?) :-) Cheers, R. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Mar 2 10:29:28 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:29:28 -0600 Subject: OFF: good places to live? Message-ID: Hey folks, My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to live. (phooey.) As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be a definite plus. (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic shops in the area.) Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Mar 2 10:40:01 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:40:01 -0000 Subject: good places to live? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Huddersfield. :-) Cheers, Rich. > > Hey folks, > > My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to live. > (phooey.) > > As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place > (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. > > To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? > Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job > market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be > a definite plus. > > (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic > shops in the area.) > > Thanks, > > Arin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 10:44:23 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:44:23 -0000 Subject: good places to live? Message-ID: sounds like a fair description of London cheers colm > > Hey folks, > > My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to live. > (phooey.) > > As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place > (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. > > To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? > Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job > market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be > a definite plus. > > (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic > shops in the area.) > > Thanks, > > Arin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tclark at PETRONET.NET Fri Mar 2 10:39:15 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:39:15 -0600 Subject: good places to live? Message-ID: Austin, Texas - clean city, nice people, and a great music scene or Richard Lockwood wrote: > Huddersfield. > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > > Hey folks, > > > > My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to live. > > (phooey.) > > > > As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place > > (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. > > > > To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? > > Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job > > market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be > > a definite plus. > > > > (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic > > shops in the area.) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Arin > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Mar 2 10:48:56 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:48:56 -0000 Subject: good places to live? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: RE: good places to live?If you want to be able to afford housing in London (to buy anyway), you're looking at the East End. I can recommend Stratford. Don't be fooled by the name, the only famous literary figure who came from there was Gerard Manly Hopkins. Not Willy Shakespeare.) :-) Cheers, Rich. sounds like a fair description of London cheers colm > > Hey folks, > > My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to live. > (phooey.) > > As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place > (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. > > To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? > Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job > market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be > a definite plus. > > (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic > shops in the area.) > > Thanks, > > Arin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Mar 2 09:56:03 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:56:03 EDT Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2 Mar 2001, at 9:29, Arin Komins wrote: > Hey folks, > > My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to > live. (phooey.) > > As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place > (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. > > To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? > Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job market > is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be a definite > plus. > It's not my neck of the woods [like I'd tell any one to move here--the weather sucks worse than Chi.!] but I hear the Washington/Baltimore/northern Virginia area is a real musical hotbed, though not nec. the heavy or spacy variety. Weather's very pleasant, and it's a short train ride from NYC. I've considered retiring to the Capitol area... theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 2 11:02:36 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:02:36 GMT Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:29:28 -0600 Message-ID: Arin Komins writes: > Hey folks, > > My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to live. > (phooey.) > > As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place > (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. > > To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? > Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job > market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be > a definite plus. > > (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic > shops in the area.) Edinburgh has all of the above and a fairly compact centre too (it's possible to walk pretty much everywhere you might want to go inside of an hour). The IT market is mainly financial programming and some web stuff but there are other things happening. It's probably as windy as Chicago but certainly not quite as cold in winter. A fairly active (drinking anyway) SF contingent too. FoFP From r.burton at HW.AC.UK Fri Mar 2 11:08:02 2001 From: r.burton at HW.AC.UK (Rob Burton) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:08:02 -0000 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: Please remind me which weekend it is. I have not made plans yet but if i was going down i may be taking my own transport from the borders and could possibly offer a lift. In car or on back of Yamaha 600 Divi. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: 02 March 2001 14:52 Subject: Canterbury festival > As luck would have it, this is on the weekend *after* my week off. Where > is Faversham? Would it be easy to train there from Edinburgh on the > Friday night? > > FoFP From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Fri Mar 2 11:27:06 2001 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas, Guy) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:27:06 -0000 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: Richard! You obviously have superb breeding and taste! I prefer Master Brew myself, but Spitfire is also the dog's bollox! Sheperd Neame is the BEST BREWERY in the known multi-verse! Guy -----Original Message----- From: Richard Lockwood [mailto:rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM] Sent: 02 March 2001 15:23 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Canterbury festival And producers of some of the finest xenophobic and homophobic ads ever. "Shepherd Neame Spitfire - Downed all over Kent. Just Like The Luftwaffe" "Shepherd Neame Spitfire - only tail-gunners drink lager" I have friends (neither German nor gay) who find them quite offensive. I laugh my arse off (if you see what I mean), and it's a top pint... :-) Cheers, Rich. ObToon: Born To Be Wild - Ozzy and Miss Piggy > > Virtually impossible I would say:( > > Faversham is in Kent, just north-west of Canterbury; it is also > home to the > Shepherd Neame brewery; the oldest independent brewery in England and > producer of some fine ales! > > Colin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Fri Mar 2 11:31:24 2001 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas, Guy) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:31:24 -0000 Subject: good places to live? Message-ID: Austin - great place! Visited twice in the 90's on business First beer I ever had in America was a Young's "Ram 'n' Special" in a great bar called Maggie Mae's, back in 1989 -----Original Message----- From: Tom Clark [mailto:tclark at PETRONET.NET] Sent: 02 March 2001 15:39 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: good places to live? Austin, Texas - clean city, nice people, and a great music scene or Richard Lockwood wrote: > Huddersfield. > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > > Hey folks, > > > > My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to live. > > (phooey.) > > > > As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place > > (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. > > > > To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? > > Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job > > market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be > > a definite plus. > > > > (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic > > shops in the area.) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Arin > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Fri Mar 2 11:33:26 2001 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas, Guy) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:33:26 -0000 Subject: good places to live? Message-ID: Mike M lives in Austin too! -----Original Message----- From: Thomas, Guy Sent: 02 March 2001 16:31 To: 'BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List' Subject: RE: good places to live? Austin - great place! Visited twice in the 90's on business First beer I ever had in America was a Young's "Ram 'n' Special" in a great bar called Maggie Mae's, back in 1989 -----Original Message----- From: Tom Clark [mailto:tclark at PETRONET.NET] Sent: 02 March 2001 15:39 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: good places to live? Austin, Texas - clean city, nice people, and a great music scene or Richard Lockwood wrote: > Huddersfield. > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > > Hey folks, > > > > My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to live. > > (phooey.) > > > > As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place > > (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. > > > > To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? > > Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job > > market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be > > a definite plus. > > > > (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic > > shops in the area.) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Arin > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Mar 2 11:32:22 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:32:22 +0000 Subject: good places to live? Message-ID: Newcastle-upon-Tyne!!! A bit chilly at times, but undoubtably the greatest place on earth! Wonderful people, wonderful places, and a shop for pretty much anything you could ever possibly want!! I have never been at a loss to find something for too long. ;-) Layla. (And there's the worlds greatest pub there to....The Percy Arms!) > > Hey folks, > > My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to live. > (phooey.) > > As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place > (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. > > To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? > Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job > market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be > a definite plus. > > (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic > shops in the area.) > > Thanks, > > Arin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Mar 2 11:36:54 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:36:54 -0000 Subject: Canterbury festival In-Reply-To: <997CDAC4BBC5D211BE0B0008C70D298F02AE8DAD@lnnt47.london.entoil.com> Message-ID: Yes I have. That's why Timothy Taylor's is the best brewery in the world. Landlord... Mmmmm... :-) Cheers, Rich. > > Richard! > > You obviously have superb breeding and taste! > I prefer Master Brew myself, but Spitfire is also the dog's > bollox! Sheperd > Neame is the BEST BREWERY in the known multi-verse! > > > Guy > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Fri Mar 2 11:32:28 2001 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (Tony Hogard) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:32:28 -0600 Subject: OFF: good places to live? Message-ID: Arin: >> As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place >> (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. >> To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? >> Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job >> market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be >> a definite plus. >> (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic >> shops in the area.) Tom Clark: > Austin, Texas - clean city, nice people, and a great music scene or All that, ST 37, and Mike Moorcock too (bringing us slightly on-topic)! http://www.auschron.com will give you the local flava. -Hogard From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Mar 2 11:43:49 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:43:49 -0000 Subject: good places to live? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Newcastle-upon-Tyne!!! > > A bit chilly at times, but undoubtably the greatest place on earth! > > Wonderful people, wonderful places, and a shop for pretty much > anything you could ever possibly want!! I have never been at a > loss to find something for too long. > ;-) > > Layla. > > (And there's the worlds greatest pub there to....The Percy Arms!) > > She's got a point you know... Ah - the hours I spent in the Percy... Bit of a shithole, but a great pub nonetheless. (If you see what I mean!) :-) R. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 2 12:17:19 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:17:19 GMT Subject: Canterbury festival In-Reply-To: Rob Burton's message of Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:08:02 -0000 Message-ID: Rob Burton writes: > > As luck would have it, this is on the weekend *after* my week off. Where > > is Faversham? Would it be easy to train there from Edinburgh on the > > Friday night? > Please remind me which weekend it is. I have not made plans yet but if i was > going down i may be taking my own transport from the borders and could > possibly offer a lift. In car or on back of Yamaha 600 Divi. It's on 18th August Rob. Cheers FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 2 12:20:28 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:20:28 GMT Subject: good places to live? In-Reply-To: Layla Thompson's message of Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:32:22 +0000 Message-ID: Layla Thompson writes: > Newcastle-upon-Tyne!!! > A bit chilly at times, but undoubtably the greatest place on earth! > Wonderful people, wonderful places, and a shop for pretty much > anything you could ever possibly want!! I have never been at a loss to > find something for too long. But probably at a loss to find something long, if what the lassies wear even in the dead of winter is anything to go by. I'd be surprised if "Frozen Belly Button" isn't a regular complaint to GP's in those parts. Still, when we get independence for the Borders, I reckon Geordieland should be the Capital. > Layla. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 2 12:21:15 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:21:15 GMT Subject: Canterbury festival In-Reply-To: Richard Lockwood's message of Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:36:54 -0000 Message-ID: Richard Lockwood writes: > Yes I have. That's why Timothy Taylor's is the best brewery in the world. > > Landlord... Mmmmm... Ach, ye canna beat a Black Sheep. FoFP From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 12:37:31 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:37:31 -0500 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:21:15 GMT, M Holmes wrote: > >Ach, ye canna beat a Black Sheep. Why not? Won't it play along? Obviously another Scots thing. From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 12:52:21 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:52:21 +0000 Subject: Original Silver Machine recording In-Reply-To: <200103021246.MAA23337@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <200103021246.MAA23337 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Jobson, Ed writes: > >> Anyone know if the original version of Silver Machine released on >> Glastonbury Fayre is available anywhere else? Napster >Only on the Assassins of Allah and Dawn of Hawkwind boots. I've recently listened to both the Glastonbury Fayre and Greasy Truckers versions of Silver Machine/Welcome to the Future, and the only difference I can see is the sound quality is better on Truckers - seems to be the same recording? -- David Blair From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 12:59:02 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:59:02 +0000 Subject: good places to live? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Richard Lockwood writes >> Newcastle-upon-Tyne!!! >> >> A bit chilly at times, but undoubtably the greatest place on earth! >> >> Wonderful people, wonderful places, and a shop for pretty much >> anything you could ever possibly want!! I have never been at a >> loss to find something for too long. >> ;-) >> >> Layla. >> >> (And there's the worlds greatest pub there to....The Percy Arms!) >> >> > >She's got a point you know... > >Ah - the hours I spent in the Percy... > >Bit of a shithole, but a great pub nonetheless. (If you see what I mean!) > >:-) Most of the good pubs in Newcastle are like that (Globe, Trent, Crown Posada were all spit 'n sawdust pubs last time I was in them) The only thing Newcastle lacks is a Hawkwind gig - well overdue. -- David Blair From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 2 13:26:13 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:26:13 GMT Subject: Original Silver Machine recording In-Reply-To: Tigger's message of Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:52:21 +0000 Message-ID: Tigger writes: > In article <200103021246.MAA23337 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes > writes > >Jobson, Ed writes: > > > >> Anyone know if the original version of Silver Machine released on > >> Glastonbury Fayre is available anywhere else? > > Napster > > >Only on the Assassins of Allah and Dawn of Hawkwind boots. > > I've recently listened to both the Glastonbury Fayre and Greasy Truckers > versions of Silver Machine/Welcome to the Future, and the only > difference I can see is the sound quality is better on Truckers - seems > to be the same recording? Silver Machine isn't on the Greasy Truckers LP, though it's true that the Silver Machine and Welcome tracks from The Glastonbury Fayre album are actually the Greasy Truckers recordings, so if you're listening to a tape or boot of Greasy Truckers then certainly that's the version you'll hear. Is there a boot CD or CDR of the whole Greasy Truckers gig? There's also something in the back of my mind about the actual single just being a remix of another (or this?) track with Lemmy's vocals overdubbing Calvert's. > David Blair FoFP From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 13:34:26 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:34:26 +0000 Subject: Original Silver Machine recording In-Reply-To: <200103021826.SAA27441@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <200103021826.SAA27441 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Tigger writes: > >> In article <200103021246.MAA23337 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes >> writes >> >Jobson, Ed writes: >> > >> >> Anyone know if the original version of Silver Machine released on >> >> Glastonbury Fayre is available anywhere else? >> >> Napster >> >> >Only on the Assassins of Allah and Dawn of Hawkwind boots. >> >> I've recently listened to both the Glastonbury Fayre and Greasy Truckers >> versions of Silver Machine/Welcome to the Future, and the only >> difference I can see is the sound quality is better on Truckers - seems >> to be the same recording? > >Silver Machine isn't on the Greasy Truckers LP, though it's true that >the Silver Machine and Welcome tracks from The Glastonbury Fayre album >are actually the Greasy Truckers recordings, so if you're listening to a >tape or boot of Greasy Truckers then certainly that's the version you'll >hear. > >Is there a boot CD or CDR of the whole Greasy Truckers gig? There's an official (I think) CD of it http://search.cdzone.co.uk/cgibin/cdzwww.cgi?1,Find,searchform,BAFB3E4C1 97046B239BBF1D28151C610! Several versions by the look of it >There's also something in the back of my mind about the actual single >just being a remix of another (or this?) track with Lemmy's vocals >overdubbing Calvert's. Yes, and the solos are overdubs - it's puzzled me for years that it's supposed to have been recorded at the Roundhouse on the same day as Greasy Truckers but the Glastonbury version is obviously the one that provided most of the material (Except overdubs) for the single. Now I'm puzzled as to why it's on the Glastonbury album if it wasn't recorded there. -- Tigger From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 2 14:04:23 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:04:23 -0600 Subject: HW: Yuri help In-Reply-To: <200103021453.OAA25609@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >Rainer Wangler writes: > >> hello, >> also released as >> Silver Machine CD at Legend WZ 90144 germany 1994 >> >> Silver Machine CD at Cosmus 5441153 germany 1994 > >And boy are those hard to find.... > >FoFP but they're pretty cool though....for Dave Anderson's German caper....Diabolical. the "legend" one is a cartoon of HW.....m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 2 14:10:51 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:10:51 -0600 Subject: HW:OFF..JILL S AND MIKE H In-Reply-To: <200103021453.OAA25609@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Dear Folks this is personal due to strategic reasons..... please just delete.....if your not mike or jill dear Mike Holmes and Jill S. chaos has been busy swirling in the mists of formation.... I can supply you both the Greek promo CD if either of you need it still.... just drop line,,,,,, Coalman From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 2 14:31:08 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:31:08 -0600 Subject: HW: Yuri help/ coleman error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>Rainer Wangler writes: >> >>> hello, >>> also released as >>> Silver Machine CD at Legend WZ 90144 germany 1994 >>> >>> Silver Machine CD at Cosmus 5441153 germany 1994 >> >>And boy are those hard to find.... >> >>FoFP > >but they're pretty cool though....for Dave Anderson's German >caper....Diabolical. > >the "legend" one is a cartoon of HW.....m WOOPS...it was the "Cosmus" one that is a cartoon, right Mike??? the old "CRS" is kicking in...... From micci at SCI.FI Fri Mar 2 14:58:37 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:58:37 +0200 Subject: HW:finnwind Message-ID: Hi! Check out: http://www.sci.fi/~micci Sorry, no english pages yet. Feel free to comment! Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Mar 2 15:08:48 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:08:48 -0000 Subject: Original Silver Machine recording Message-ID: Fold out version? Whas' that then? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jobson, Ed To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Original Silver Machine recording > Yeah I have the fold out dawn of hawkwind original but that's it. > > Thanks anyway. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of David Bottomley > Sent: 02 March 2001 06:33 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Original Silver Machine recording > > > Eddie asked: > > > >Anyone know if the original version of Silver Machine released on > >Glastonbury Fayre is available anywhere else? > > > The Glasto versions of SM & Welcome are also featured on a bootleg CD called > "Dawn of Hawkwind" (as distinct from the recent legit release of the same > name), but I'm unaware of any other non-boot versions. > > Dave From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Mar 2 15:09:26 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:09:26 -0000 Subject: HW: Spring tour Message-ID: Yes! ----- Original Message ----- From: David Bottomley To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 12:42 PM Subject: HW: Spring tour > Does anyone know the band line-up for the upcoming HW mini-tour? > > Dave From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Mar 2 15:10:48 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:10:48 -0500 Subject: OFF: FWD: MiniKorgs galore Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:04:23 +1030, Michael W Blackman wrote: >How Much? You'll have to ask the person who's selling it: mark at synths.net -Doug ceres at sirius.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: Douglas Pearson >To: >Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 7:38 AM >Subject: OFF: FWD: MiniKorgs galore > >> from the http://www.harmony-central.com classifieds ... >> >The Ultimate Univox Mini-Korg Collection >> >Asking Price: US$N/A >> >Condition: Excellent >> >Production Year: 1973 >> >Description: >> >Three different Univox Mini-Korgs all in one single collection... >> > >> >Seller: Mark H, >> >E-mail: mark at synths.net (Profile) >> >Location: Saint Petersburg, FL From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Mar 2 15:17:24 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:17:24 -0500 Subject: Original Silver Machine recording Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:34:26 +0000, Tigger wrote: >Yes, and the solos are overdubs - it's puzzled me for years that it's >supposed to have been recorded at the Roundhouse on the same day as >Greasy Truckers but the Glastonbury version is obviously the one that >provided most of the material (Except overdubs) for the single. >Now I'm puzzled as to why it's on the Glastonbury album if it wasn't >recorded there. As I understand it, Hawkwind's performance at Glastonbury was deemed unreleasable, partially because Dave Brock was "incapacitated" and unable to play at the event (Tom Crimble of Skin Alley filled in for him). Wheras they (obviously) had a good quality tape of the Greasy Truckers' Roundhouse gig that wasn't entirely used on the double-LP, so ... Note that many of the performances on the 'Glastonbury Fayre' triple LP were NOT recorded at Glastonbury. In addition to Hawkwind, that's definitely the case for the Grateful Dead track, and obviously the studio recordings by Bolan / Bowie / Townshend. OTOH, I'm quite certain that the Pink Fairies & Broughton tracks were recorded at Glastonbury; I'm not as sure about Gong, Mighty Baby, Skin Alley & Brinsley Schwarz ones. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Mar 2 15:18:24 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:18:24 -0000 Subject: Original Silver Machine recording Message-ID: A lot of the material on Glastonbury Fayre wasn't actually recorded there - like the whole of the side featuring Hawkwind/Townsend/Bowie etc. The version with Bob also appears on a Classic Rock free CD. Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tigger To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 6:34 PM Subject: Re: Original Silver Machine recording > In article <200103021826.SAA27441 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes > writes > >Tigger writes: > > > >> In article <200103021246.MAA23337 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes > >> writes > >> >Jobson, Ed writes: > >> > > >> >> Anyone know if the original version of Silver Machine released on > >> >> Glastonbury Fayre is available anywhere else? > >> > >> Napster > >> > >> >Only on the Assassins of Allah and Dawn of Hawkwind boots. > >> > >> I've recently listened to both the Glastonbury Fayre and Greasy Truckers > >> versions of Silver Machine/Welcome to the Future, and the only > >> difference I can see is the sound quality is better on Truckers - seems > >> to be the same recording? > > > >Silver Machine isn't on the Greasy Truckers LP, though it's true that > >the Silver Machine and Welcome tracks from The Glastonbury Fayre album > >are actually the Greasy Truckers recordings, so if you're listening to a > >tape or boot of Greasy Truckers then certainly that's the version you'll > >hear. > > > >Is there a boot CD or CDR of the whole Greasy Truckers gig? > > There's an official (I think) CD of it > http://search.cdzone.co.uk/cgibin/cdzwww.cgi?1,Find,searchform,BAFB3E4C1 > 97046B239BBF1D28151C610! > Several versions by the look of it > > >There's also something in the back of my mind about the actual single > >just being a remix of another (or this?) track with Lemmy's vocals > >overdubbing Calvert's. > > Yes, and the solos are overdubs - it's puzzled me for years that it's > supposed to have been recorded at the Roundhouse on the same day as > Greasy Truckers but the Glastonbury version is obviously the one that > provided most of the material (Except overdubs) for the single. > Now I'm puzzled as to why it's on the Glastonbury album if it wasn't > recorded there. > > -- > Tigger From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 15:39:45 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:39:45 -0000 Subject: Canterbury festiva l- Baaa Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 5:21 PM Subject: Re: Canterbury festival > Richard Lockwood writes: > > > Yes I have. That's why Timothy Taylor's is the best brewery in the world. > > > > Landlord... Mmmmm... > > Ach, ye canna beat a Black Sheep. If you can find one. Aren't they all in quarantine with foot and mouth disease.at the moment? jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Mar 2 16:07:20 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:07:20 -0000 Subject: HW: trades..... Message-ID: hey....Mikeeee.....call me next week and I can put you right in touch with Adrian Wagner himself,or at least his office, but probably both. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Coleman" To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 10:11 AM Subject: Re: HW: trades..... > hello people... > > insomnia alive in Texas....... > > here's a weird couple (of requests) for you... > > I am seeking copies in SUPREME condition of the following... > > 1) A CANADIAN WARRIOR LP.....need cover CLEAN, don't care about vinyl > ....this is identified only by catalog # UALA 465G on upper right hand of > back cover...also, this copy has no pocket for the record, the LP just sits > in the shield...... > > 2) A german LP pressing of Warrior...as above, seek CLEAN cover, no concern > on the vinyl condition ,,(have mint already) > > 3) A british pressing of Warrior shield, BUT! the pressing that DOES NOT > HAVE the little white "hair" in the upper right hand corner of FRONT cover, > that runs just parallel to top edge of sleeve.... > > Does anybody have a BEATIFUL CONDITION LP of the "DELIRED CAMELEON FAMILY" > LP, they would sell or trade??....this is a relation of the band CLEARLIGHT > from France!!! > > Is anyone out there an expert on Adrian Wagner???....I need a pro with a > discography!!!! inc.45 singles!!! > > Among things I have to trade with (possibly...better be a good offer) is > the japaneese LP pressing of Nik Turners SPHYNX LP, which I think is safe > to say that this is a truly MEGA RARE item, and I HATE when people use that > terminology....it does not have the OBI, but I can do a nice reproduction, > as I already have for Nik's copy..(sorry Nik..it came out GREAT though!!) > > I will buy/trade/beg you to death..whatever.... > > mike coleman > > PS,,,Anyone able to locate Hassan 45's yet??? GOOD ONES! hurry up!!! > > somebody go raid a collection, and you'll have plenty of CD money from me!!!! > > stay out of this FoFP...I'm onto a greek CD for you, if you didn't get > yet..hold tight!!! From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Mar 2 14:45:51 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:45:51 -0000 Subject: HW: Weird CDs Message-ID: no - the rest are fine - only 6 is OOP right now. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Loehr To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 12:19 AM Subject: Re: HW: Weird CDs In a message dated 3/1/01 2:31:43 PM US Eastern Standard Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: Huh, I could have sworn it was #6. Well, now that I know it's out of print, if I see #6 around I'll certainly wait and see if I can build up the price for it. ;-) # 2 & 4 may now be OOP, but #6 was definitely OOP. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All are US releases on One Way Records Hawkwind Doremi Fasol Latido In Search Of Space Go get 'em Stuart http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk From joe.e at TELIA.COM Fri Mar 2 16:12:03 2001 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:12:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Yuri help/ coleman error Message-ID: At 13:31 2001-03-02 -0600, you wrote: >>>Rainer Wangler writes: >>> >>>> hello, >>>> also released as >>>> Silver Machine CD at Legend WZ 90144 germany 1994 >>>> >>>> Silver Machine CD at Cosmus 5441153 germany 1994 >>> >>>And boy are those hard to find.... >>> >>>FoFP >> >>but they're pretty cool though....for Dave Anderson's German >>caper....Diabolical. >> >>the "legend" one is a cartoon of HW.....m > >WOOPS...it was the "Cosmus" one that is a cartoon, right Mike??? > >the old "CRS" is kicking in...... as one of the Gagarin friendlier on this list, I feel an urge to mention the France pressed (Editions Atlas RK CD 418) "Les G?nies du Rock: Urban Guerilla" with the now infamous combination of tracks, starting with "Gaga / In the Egg / ORGANE Accumulator..." I think it was sold together with a magazine..? March 1997? my Legend Silver Machine isn't a Gagarin clone - tracklist is the same as "Early Daze" - a compilation of Text of Festival/SR II and Yuri Gagarin tracks. .joe From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Mar 2 16:27:10 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:27:10 EST Subject: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/2/01 10:24:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM writes: > Possession is nine tenths of the law. (So why did I get busted?) cause it's the law? From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 2 16:37:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:37:57 -0600 Subject: HW:OFF -personal strategy ANDY G In-Reply-To: <010d01c0a35e$0002a300$b218bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: his "KNIGHTSHIP" ANDY G wrote: hey....Mikeeee.....call me next week and I can put you right in touch with Adrian Wagner himself,or at least his office, but probably both. Andy Garibaldi. this one is in case Andy isn't reading private posts...ANDY! please go look at panicked email.....my friend N.-EASTSIDE has sent me running to you fast!!!!! my jealousy is setting in..... I miss speaking to Adrian's wife Helen......YES!! hook me up please! dear lady put candy in my friends package once upon a time!!! bless her heart!!! uFoWs From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 2 16:49:05 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:49:05 -0600 Subject: HW: GAGARIN'S head on trophy mantle... In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.20010302215656.1f9f7be0@m1.171.telia.com> Message-ID: >>>>Rainer Wangler writes: my Legend Silver Machine isn't a Gagarin clone - tracklist is the same as >"Early Daze" - a compilation of Text of Festival/SR II and Yuri Gagarin >tracks. .joe BY GOD HE's right.....more "CRS"....but I never said it was gagarin...I was pluggin the toon... as for that French one...Good luck folks,,,,it's RARE RARE!! if anybody wants to upgrade/trade me for a minter one..I'm game!!! mines pretty well used....plays just fine though! m From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Mar 2 17:09:36 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:09:36 -0600 Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: <200103021602.QAA05985@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: :Subject: Re: OFF: good places to live? : :Arin Komins writes: : :> Hey folks, :> :> My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to live. :> (phooey.) :> :> As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place :> (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. :> :> To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? :> Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job :> market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be :> a definite plus. :> :> (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic :> shops in the area.) [a bunch of people respond in favor of sites in the uk, austin, dc/maryland, calif. bay area.] UK folks, anyone happen to know if it is possible for a nonEuro member to get a job over there? All the *.gov.uk sites I looked at made it seem highly unlikely...... I'm looking at the others, too. (also looking in the chicago area, for lazyness sake.) Arin (sigh. I really hate moving.) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Mar 2 17:36:23 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:36:23 -0500 Subject: OFF: good places to live? Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:09:36 -0600, Arin Komins wrote: >:Subject: Re: OFF: good places to live? > >[a bunch of people respond in favor of sites in the uk, austin, >dc/maryland, calif. bay area.] Since the out-of-control economy has been correcting itself a bit as of recently, I could, in good conscience, recommend the SF Bay Area, which I would NOT have done six months ago. (Next time you're in the area, Arin, I can point out the SF/F bookstore 'Borderlands' that I learned about when Mick Farren & John Shirley did readings/music there.) As a matter of fact, I have an opening for a new flatmate at the end of this month (did I remember to mention that, Chuck?) ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Mar 2 17:52:31 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:52:31 -0600 Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: <200103022236.RAA24340@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: :Subject: Re: OFF: good places to live? : :On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:09:36 -0600, Arin Komins : wrote: :>:Subject: Re: OFF: good places to live? :> :>[a bunch of people respond in favor of sites in the uk, austin, :>dc/maryland, calif. bay area.] : :Since the out-of-control economy has been correcting itself a bit as of :recently, I could, in good conscience, recommend the SF Bay Area, which I :would NOT have done six months ago. (Next time you're in the area, Arin, I :can point out the SF/F bookstore 'Borderlands' that I learned about when :Mick Farren & John Shirley did readings/music there.) : :As a matter of fact, I have an opening for a new flatmate at the end of :this month (did I remember to mention that, Chuck?) ... Good to hear. Do you have recommendations for particular areas in the Bay Area? re: flatmate -- tempting, but I have ye-olde-tonne of books, so unless you've got lots of space, that may not be an option. oh -- and I'll be back in the area from 4/3 - 4/8, free for a full day on 4/7, which is a Saturday. Any BOC-L folks want to hang out? (that includes you, Doug ;-) ) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Mar 2 18:59:13 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:59:13 +0000 Subject: Original Silver Machine recording In-Reply-To: <200103022017.PAA23092@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200103022017.PAA23092 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >Note that many of the performances on the 'Glastonbury Fayre' triple LP >were NOT recorded at Glastonbury. In addition to Hawkwind, that's >definitely the case for the Grateful Dead track, and obviously the studio >recordings by Bolan / Bowie / Townshend. OTOH, I'm quite certain that the >Pink Fairies & Broughton tracks were recorded at Glastonbury; I'm not as >sure about Gong, Mighty Baby, Skin Alley & Brinsley Schwarz ones. Gong's contribution was recorded in a church in Belgium. -- Nick Medford From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Mar 2 16:19:42 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:19:42 -0000 Subject: Original Silver Machine recording Message-ID: yep - Gong too - virtually all of it NOT Glastonbury. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Pearson" To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Original Silver Machine recording > On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:34:26 +0000, Tigger > wrote: > >Yes, and the solos are overdubs - it's puzzled me for years that it's > >supposed to have been recorded at the Roundhouse on the same day as > >Greasy Truckers but the Glastonbury version is obviously the one that > >provided most of the material (Except overdubs) for the single. > >Now I'm puzzled as to why it's on the Glastonbury album if it wasn't > >recorded there. > > As I understand it, Hawkwind's performance at Glastonbury was deemed > unreleasable, partially because Dave Brock was "incapacitated" and unable > to play at the event (Tom Crimble of Skin Alley filled in for him). Wheras > they (obviously) had a good quality tape of the Greasy Truckers' Roundhouse > gig that wasn't entirely used on the double-LP, so ... > > Note that many of the performances on the 'Glastonbury Fayre' triple LP > were NOT recorded at Glastonbury. In addition to Hawkwind, that's > definitely the case for the Grateful Dead track, and obviously the studio > recordings by Bolan / Bowie / Townshend. OTOH, I'm quite certain that the > Pink Fairies & Broughton tracks were recorded at Glastonbury; I'm not as > sure about Gong, Mighty Baby, Skin Alley & Brinsley Schwarz ones. > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 2 20:07:40 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:37:40 +1030 Subject: HW: Aldershot Message-ID: Stop rubbing it in matey! ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Allen To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 1:12 AM Subject: Re: HW: Aldershot > Yes, > > Croydon & Aldershot tickets are nestling in my drawer right now! > > COLIN > From chrisr at TIAC.NET Fri Mar 2 23:51:34 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:51:34 -0500 Subject: BOC: News Message-ID: I just a saw a Tyranny & Mutation amd Secret Treaties together in black colored deluxe looking package. It said it had bonus Tracks. Do you think this will have the same tracks as you list below? It was called something like Back in Black. That is not rally the title, but it is something like that. The 2 CDs were $30.00. I should have looked at the label, but I did not. I was going to buy this. Has anyone seen it yet? Chris "Michael S. Habiby" wrote: > BOC's as-yet-untitled album has been put on the schedule for a June 5 > release. So mark your calendars! > > ---- > > CBS/SONY is going to be re-releasing the entire BOC catalog, remastered > with > extra bonus unreleased tracks. The first of these releases are slated for > early summer (no set date for releases yet). > > The first releases will be the first four studio albums. Each record will > include four bonus tracks and booklets with liner notes by noted musician > and producer Lenny Kaye (Patti Smith Group, producer of Nuggets). The > releases will continue in groups of four until the entire catalogue has > been > re-issued. > Here's what's in store for the first 4 releases: > > Blue Oyster Cult: > (From The band's original Columbia demo:) > -What is Quicksand > -A Fact About Sneakers > -Donovan's Monkey > -Betty Lou Got A New Pair Of Shoes > (These songs are completely different versions than the songs of the same > titles on the upcoming Rhino Stalk-Forrest group release) > > Tyranny & Mutation: > will have 3 Live tracks: > -Cities On Flame With Rock & Roll (From the Original Bootleg EP) > -7 Screaming Diz-Busters (From BOC Live In The West 1975) > -O.D.'d On Life Itself (From BOC LIve In The West 1975) > -Buck's Boogie (Original studio version from 1973) > > Secret Treaties: > -Born To Be Wild (Originally available as a single in 1974) > -Mommy > -Boorman The Chauffeur > -Madame Serrat > > Agents Of Fortune: > -(Don't Fear) The Reaper (Buck's original home demo) > -Dance The Night Away (Allen's original home demo with Allen singing) > -Sally (Pre-Production) > -Fire Of Unknown Origin > > -- > "The salvation of mankind lies only in making everything the concern of all." -- Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn From mordru at FLITE.NET Sat Mar 3 00:22:06 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:22:06 -0500 Subject: BOC: News In-Reply-To: <3A9FA561.2080609@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: >Agents Of Fortune: >-(Don't Fear) The Reaper (Buck's original home demo) >-Dance The Night Away (Allen's original home demo with Allen singing) >-Sally (Pre-Production) >-Fire Of Unknown Origin The AoF FoUO in particular interests me, from Bolle's assertion that this was one of the biggest mistakes the band ever made (not putting it on the album)... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Mar 3 02:19:10 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 07:19:10 -0000 Subject: good places to live? Message-ID: LoL. So the Percy is still there. Well somethings don't change. We used to go there before we went the Mayfair every Friday and Saturday. And Newcastle is Great I lived there for 6 years and they had to drag me away kicking and screaming. I've still got my poster and some fliers from the Hawkwind gig at the Mayfair in 1992. And yes it is cold. But Wonderful. Rich W (Outcast in Carlisle) Carlisle is not wonderful. Carlisle = Stepford Damn: Theres a big record fair in Newcastle today.....running for train.....;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:32 PM Subject: Re: good places to live? > Newcastle-upon-Tyne!!! > > A bit chilly at times, but undoubtably the greatest place on earth! > > Wonderful people, wonderful places, and a shop for pretty much anything you could ever possibly want!! I have never been at a loss to find something for too long. > ;-) > > Layla. > > (And there's the worlds greatest pub there to....The Percy Arms!) > > > > > > Hey folks, > > > > My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to live. > > (phooey.) > > > > As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place > > (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. > > > > To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? > > Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job > > market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be > > a definite plus. > > > > (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic > > shops in the area.) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Arin > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sat Mar 3 04:14:36 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:14:36 -0000 Subject: chronicle of the black sword video cd In-Reply-To: <002401c0a3b2$3e653460$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: I just received the chronicle of the black sword video cd through the post today and was wondering does anyone know of any software for the pc that can play this through my cd-rom? Hopefully freeware or very cheap? cheers colm From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 3 06:51:53 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:51:53 -0000 Subject: HW: Bill Bailey Message-ID: I managed to catch one of BB's gigs a while back. A lot of music and SF references throughout - well worth catching him live if you can. The stage "set" consisted of a Dave Brock style keyboard stack which the Bill would tinker with throughout the gig - playing blasts of Purple, and SF TV themes (the Dr Who theme is a particular favourite). I think from the sentiments at the show Bill may have a few HW Lp's at home. In saying that he did take the rip out of a lot of prog lyrics (Jon Anderson/Neal Peart expect no mercy!). Hawkwind supported by Bill Bailey - no there's an idea! (Dave/Kris are you reading this?). Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just checked out my original UA Shield sleeve and can see no indication of it. What does bug me though, is the line drawn where the "moon" intercepts the cloud on the rear sleeve. I know it shouldn't ...... but it does! Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 3 07:37:04 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:37:04 -0000 Subject: HW:Hawkwind UK Tour Message-ID: Glasgow - Barrowlands (2 to 3 thousand) Glasgow - The Garage (less than a thousand) Dave -----Original Message----- From: XXX To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 03 March 2001 12:28 Subject: HW:Hawkwind UK Tour We are thinking about organising a UK tour. We are looking for suggestions of cities and venues. If you have a fantastic venue in your home town, which has a capacity of at least 1000, that you think would be ideal for a Hawkwind gig, let us know. (including contact number for venue and name of usual promoter). HW -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Mar 3 08:10:20 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:10:20 -0000 Subject: BOC: News Message-ID: Yes - we have had it in at CD Services but I don't have the review on my home system here as yet so I can't let you know right now what the bonus tracks are - if no-one else does it then I will e.mail it to you on Monday, OK. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Raymond" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 4:51 AM Subject: Re: BOC: News > I just a saw a Tyranny & Mutation amd Secret Treaties together in black colored deluxe looking package. It said it had > bonus Tracks. Do you think this will have the same tracks as you list below? It was called something like Back in > Black. That is not rally the title, but it is something like that. The 2 CDs were $30.00. I should have looked at the > label, but I did not. I was going to buy this. Has anyone seen it yet? > Chris > > "Michael S. Habiby" wrote: > > > BOC's as-yet-untitled album has been put on the schedule for a June 5 > > release. So mark your calendars! > > > > ---- > > > > CBS/SONY is going to be re-releasing the entire BOC catalog, remastered > > with > > extra bonus unreleased tracks. The first of these releases are slated for > > early summer (no set date for releases yet). > > > > The first releases will be the first four studio albums. Each record will > > include four bonus tracks and booklets with liner notes by noted musician > > and producer Lenny Kaye (Patti Smith Group, producer of Nuggets). The > > releases will continue in groups of four until the entire catalogue has > > been > > re-issued. > > Here's what's in store for the first 4 releases: > > > > Blue Oyster Cult: > > (From The band's original Columbia demo:) > > -What is Quicksand > > -A Fact About Sneakers > > -Donovan's Monkey > > -Betty Lou Got A New Pair Of Shoes > > (These songs are completely different versions than the songs of the same > > titles on the upcoming Rhino Stalk-Forrest group release) > > > > Tyranny & Mutation: > > will have 3 Live tracks: > > -Cities On Flame With Rock & Roll (From the Original Bootleg EP) > > -7 Screaming Diz-Busters (From BOC Live In The West 1975) > > -O.D.'d On Life Itself (From BOC LIve In The West 1975) > > -Buck's Boogie (Original studio version from 1973) > > > > Secret Treaties: > > -Born To Be Wild (Originally available as a single in 1974) > > -Mommy > > -Boorman The Chauffeur > > -Madame Serrat > > > > Agents Of Fortune: > > -(Don't Fear) The Reaper (Buck's original home demo) > > -Dance The Night Away (Allen's original home demo with Allen singing) > > -Sally (Pre-Production) > > -Fire Of Unknown Origin > > > > -- > > "The salvation of mankind lies only in making everything the concern of all." -- Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Mar 3 08:06:36 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 08:06:36 EST Subject: OFF: Napster update Message-ID: this seems pretty screwy to me; maybe later on today i'll punch in, oh i dunno, "stairway to heaven" and see what happens...oy... "<>" Napster Says It Will Block Copyrighted Songs Company Waits for Judge's Ruling By Michael Kahn Reuters SAN FRANCISCO (March 1) - Napster Inc., facing a corporate death sentence at the hands of a federal judge, bought itself a brief reprieve on Friday by promising to block users from accessing some one million music files covered by recording industry copyrights. Some industry analysts said, however, that the online music song-swap service may still be singing its swan song. Napster's last-ditch effort to conform with copyright law came as U.S. District Judge Marilyn Hall Patel held a hearing on how to formulate an injunction which fans fear could put the it out of business. Patel ended the hearing with a promise to draft an injunction order "that is workable and makes sense" -- but gave no indication when she might issue it. Legal observers do not expect a lengthy wait. Meanwhile, Napster's vow to filter out copyrighted music files starting this weekend sparked cries of protest from users, who have made the service wildly popular around the world by trading everything from Chinese pop songs to Beethoven symphonies compressed into handy MP3 computer files. "Oh my God. I'd better finish downloading," said one Napster devotee scrambling to grab as much music as possible before the screening system takes effect. Napster's lead attorney, David Boies, said the new copyright protection system should allow the company to stay in business -- although many industry analysts questioned whether Napster would still have the same appeal if it no longer offers the world's top pop hits for free. "I think Napster will still be the best music service out there, (but) it will not be the same," Boies said. Napster's offer came amid some two hours of argument from its lawyers and representatives of the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), which has sued the Internet upstart on charges of facilitating widespread music piracy. Industry analysts said while Napster's move may have won it more time to negotiate with the recording industry, it did not mark a sure path to survival for the company. MORE MEDIATION SCHEDULED Although the two sides have scheduled more mediation next week, Napster's decision to play by recording industry rules could weaken its overall negotiating position while driving once-loyal users to other services, they said. "I'm sure that Napster usage will be very high this weekend and it will be interesting to see the cat-and-mouse games as users try to get around the blocking schemes," said Malcolm Maclachlan, analyst with technology tracking firm International Data Corp. "The main effect will be to grow usage on other peer-to-peer networks like Aimster and Gnutella." Ric Dube, an analyst with Webnoize, said the recording industry would likely continue to press for a quick injunction to make sure Napster agrees to all of its terms. "Once the injunction is in place, these two sides could come together for a negotiation," said Dube. "Napster hasn't said uncle yet and the record companies need to hear before entering any discussions." The court battle over Napster's future -- involving everyone from the company's youthful founder to major rock stars and one of the most famous lawyers in the country -- is a defining case for copyrights in cyberspace and could affect the way books, movies and all entertainment will be distributed online for years to come. NAPSTER OFFERS TO POLICE ITSELF At Friday's hearing, Napster's lawyers said the company was racing to perfect new software to filter out copyrighted material and hoped to reach agreement soon with the recording industry on how to identify such material. "We have come considerably closer together on the issue of an injunction," said Boies, who represented the Justice Department in its antitrust suit against Microsoft. Boies said Napster would begin policing itself by blocking access to some one million files of copyrighted music over the weekend, with more to come. Most of activity on Napster involves the unauthorized trade of copyrighted material. But Napster says it is unable to identify which files are copyrighted and which are not, putting the onus on the RIAA to provide lists of material it believes represent copyright infringement. Lawyers for the recording industry, joined in court Friday by lawyers representing artists Metallica and Dr. Dre, said they had already submitted a list of some 5,600 song titles -- each of which could account for a vast number of separate files on the Napster system -- to be blocked. While the RIAA's legal team pointed out that serious questions remained about how the new screening process would work, RIAA President Hilary Rosen had some rare words of praise for the online company, saying it was the first time Napster had sought to obey existing copyright laws. "We made a lot of progress in court today," Rosen said. "It is important for me to give some credit to Napster today." Napster's service has attracted about 60 million users who swap songs for free by trading MP3 files, a compression format that turns music on compact discs into small digital files. The major recording companies, represented by the RIAA, first sued Napster in December 1999, claiming it aids copyright piracy and costs them billions of dollars in lost sales. Patel issued an injunction on July, but a federal appeals court two days later stayed her ruling pending review. MAJOR BLOW The embattled service was dealt a blow Feb. 12 when a three-judge panel from the appeals court ruled that Napster could be held liable for copyright infringement and that an injunction, which could essentially shut down Napster, was not only warranted but required. In its ruling, the panel ordered Patel to require the record labels to identify which of their copyrights were infringed on Napster. Friday's hearing was called to hammer out the details of how such an order would be implemented. In an effort to draw up a workable long-term business plan, Napster has embarked on a project with major investor Bertelsmann AG to develop a new, subscription version of its service, expected to be rolled out this summer. The company has also offered the recording industry a five-year $1 billion deal to enable it to swap their music on a new secure service, but this has drawn poor reviews from its main opponents, which include Vivendi Universal's Universal Music, Sony Music, Warner Music and EMI Group Plc. Rtr 20:15 03-02-01 From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Mar 3 08:10:52 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 08:10:52 EST Subject: OFF:[still] Napster Update #2 Message-ID: Napster Plans Screening System By RON HARRIS .c The Associated Press SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - In a move to pre-empt a court-ordered shutdown, Napster Inc. says it will deploy a new screening system to stop the free trade of thousands of copyright songs. Napster's plan to bring the software online this weekend came as the company pleaded with a judge Friday to keep its music-swapping service alive. Attorney David Boies said the screening system would block access to 1 million music files. He and Napster chief executive Hank Barry left it unclear whether the number represented different songs or spelling variations involving a much smaller number of songs. The move amounted to a concession that Napster's days were over as an online clearinghouse for the free trade in copyright tunes. The company said it would offer membership-based swapping for a fee by July 1 and pay copyright holders royalty fees. The recording industry, which provided Napster with a list of 5,600 song titles it wanted blocked, said its plan wasn't aggressive enough. Music industry attorney Russell Frackman said a far greater number of songs should be screened out, including recordings not yet released to the public. Hilary Rosen, president of the Recording Industry Association of America, said she will take Napster on its word that it is trying to develop a method to comply with copyright infringement issues. ``We think that the screening technology has the potential to be effective, but we'll see,'' Rosen said. The software will be smart enough to block searches of name variations, such as ``Bing's Christmas'' for Bing Crosby's ``White Christmas,'' or misspellings such as ``Metalica'' for ``Metallica,'' Napster officials said. But some experts wondered how long it would take before users find a workaround. ``What the well-intentioned mind can invent, the not-well-intentioned mind can destroy,'' said Robert Schwartz, a lawyer who has represented movie and television studios in copyright cases. If the screening system works, however, frustrated Napster users can go elsewhere - to similar servers not under the control of the company or the courts, and file-sharing systems that use no central servers. Where all of this will leave Napster is unknown. Its users downloaded with a vengeance as Friday's hearing began. More than 8,500 people were sharing more than 1.7 million files through just one of Napster's more than 50 servers. The hearing was the result of a decision from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which ordered U.S. District Judge Marilyn Hall Patel to rewrite her earlier order that essentially shut the company down. The appeals court ordered her to come up with a much more limited way Napster can survive. Specifically, Patel must find a way for Napster to block pirated songs without limiting the free speech rights of computer users trading other music. Napster last week offered to settle the lawsuit brought by the recording industry for $1 billion in exchange for a 40 percent cut of online music sales. The offer was rejected by the recording industry. Last fall, German media giant Bertelsmann AG, which owns the BMG label, partnered with Napster and said it would fund the development of a subscription-based service. None of its competitors has joined in and all the major labels are developing online music distribution businesses of their own, even as other ways of getting free music are sprouting up. Napster's popularity exploded in 1999 after founder Shawn Fanning released software making it easy for personal computer users to locate and trade songs stored as computer files in the MP3 format, which compresses digital recordings without sacrificing quality. The five largest record labels - Sony, Warner, BMG, EMI and Universal - quickly sued, saying Napster could rob them of billions of dollars in profits. James Grady, an analyst with Giga Information Group, said the screening technology coming this weekend from Napster is a valiant effort, but perhaps comes too late. ``I really think that this is Napster's opportunity to show that they are trustworthy,'' Grady said. ``The question is do they want to take advantage of that, and will they be able to?'' On the Net: Napster: http://www.napster.com Recording Industry: http://www.riaa.com AP-NY-03-03-01 0549EST Copyright 2001 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL. From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Mar 3 08:12:00 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:12:00 -0000 Subject: HW: Nottingham gig, Brockspace, Damage Message-ID: "It's damaging init, life" ----- Original Message ----- From: J D To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: HW: Nottingham gig, Brockspace, Damage Hi, Anyone got any details of the Nottingham April gig? Like: Is it confirmed? Date? 1st/2nd April? Venue? By the way, since posting my mail about the total shambles of the tracks appearing / not appearing on Brockspace, I've learnt that this was an early mispress which has since been corrected to exactly the track list on the back. So this mis-press is unique in having this particular version of Damage Of Life?! Bit of a trivial point now, but I have my reasons for asking, can anyone make out what Ron says just as Damage Of Life starts at Astoria gig? Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET Sat Mar 3 06:08:39 2001 From: mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET (Mark Robertson) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:08:39 -0000 Subject: good places to live? Message-ID: THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE IN CARLISLE WHO LIKES HAWKWIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. and I thought I was the only one. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warren" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:19 AM Subject: Re: good places to live? > LoL. So the Percy is still there. Well somethings don't change. > > We used to go there before we went the Mayfair every Friday and Saturday. > And Newcastle is Great I lived there for 6 years and they had to drag me > away kicking and screaming. I've still got my poster and some fliers from > the Hawkwind gig at the Mayfair in 1992. And yes it is cold. But Wonderful. > > Rich W (Outcast in Carlisle) > > Carlisle is not wonderful. Carlisle = Stepford > > Damn: Theres a big record fair in Newcastle today.....running for > train.....;-) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Layla Thompson" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: good places to live? > > > > Newcastle-upon-Tyne!!! > > > > A bit chilly at times, but undoubtably the greatest place on earth! > > > > Wonderful people, wonderful places, and a shop for pretty much anything > you could ever possibly want!! I have never been at a loss to find something > for too long. > > ;-) > > > > Layla. > > > > (And there's the worlds greatest pub there to....The Percy Arms!) > > > > > > > > > > Hey folks, > > > > > > My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to > live. > > > (phooey.) > > > > > > As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place > > > (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. > > > > > > To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? > > > Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job > > > market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be > > > a definite plus. > > > > > > (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic > > > shops in the area.) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Arin > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > From roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 3 12:05:40 2001 From: roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Roger Elmer) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:05:40 -0000 Subject: HW: Anyone want to trade? Message-ID: Hi folks - my local vintage record store has the following HW vinyl. I didn't check condition, year of issue etc but will do if anyone needs the LPs and would like to trade. Prices are those charged by the shop. Original vinyl: Calvert - Capt Lockheed & Starfighters (w lyric booklet, gatefold) ?15 Hawkwind - Business Trip double LP (foldout sleeve) ?15 Hawkwind - 1st LP picture disc (pic is from original inner sleeve) ?15 The following looked like reissues and are all around the ?4/5 mark: Astounding Sounds (2 copies) Quark Strangeness & Charm Xenon Codex Friends & Relations Vol 2 & 3 Live Chronicles (?6.50) Church of HW Zones I need the following - either excellent condition original vinyl or CD: Space Ritual Vol 2 BBC In Concert 73 Text of Festival Thrilling HW Adventures (Live 76) Love in Space (live 95) 1999 Party (live 74) Please mail me offlist to discuss further - thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All those rumours of the Orb doing gigs with Hawkwind were manifested with the appearance of Salt Tank. Anyone got the new Orb offering, is it any good? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Sat Mar 3 13:05:54 2001 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:05:54 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind releases Message-ID: Hi, folks: The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at . Meanwhile, here are some excerpts for Hawkwind fans: Coming soon from Voiceprint Hawkwind/Atomhenge - 76 The kings of Space Rock have been captured live in 1976 with this brilliant recording of a memorable tour. This particular recording is very special as the band are joined by legendary vocalist Bob Calvert. Hawkwind go through their paces playing classics from that period which will be a must for all those in their extensive fanbase. Specially mastered for CD , a double package which comes complete with a full colour reproduction of Hawkwind's 1976 tour program. Hawkwind have a high profile, attracting a lot of press attention especially with recent sell out concerts at Brixton Academy and at the Astoria London. Hawkwind/Family Tree Family tree carries on where the Hawkwind Friends and Relations series on Flick - knife Records left off. Family tree is a collection of both solo and group efforts. ALL the tracks are previously unreleased and are collected here to make a very special compendium. Specially mastered for CD and featuring a full colour booklet this album is a must for all Hawkwind fans. There are tracks from the Paradogs, The Little Big Men, Ron Tree, liz Gizzad and of course Dave Brock. Harry Williamson/Life in the World Unseen Harry Williamson has worked with great talents over the years and this album includes a good representation of these musicians. From Harry's earlier years during the Mother Gong days there is Didier Malherbe, Guy Evans and from later years Gilli Smyth, Rob Calvert, Rob George (Mother Gong) and Conrad Henderson (Mother Gong). More recent projects have included Liz Van Dort (Faraway) and Miles McNicholl and Harry's daughter Bee who also contribute to this brilliant album. Harry left Gong in 1993 and has pursued his own musical career and this CD is a collection of previously unreleased tracks which he has gathered together covering a 20 year span. The Highlands suite for example captures the Australian landscape with its beauty in desolation quite unlike the European experience. Tibetan instruments, combined with a didgeridoo and angel guitar create a unique mood which is developed by the haunting simple guitar melody. This is by and large an ambient carefully crafted and unusual CD, mainly instrumental and quite unlike anything Harry has released before musically.. There is however a few elements from the later Mother Gong recordings and from Tarka the album he recorded with Anthony Phillips. Paradogs/Foul Play at the Earth Lab Well known Hawkwind member Jerry Richards also performs as Paradogs with Alf Hardy. All the tracks on this album were written and produced by the duo who have carefully crafted their music to ensure that the listener enjoys a brilliant album. Due to the popularity of Hawkwind, and sell out London concerts which also include Jerry Richards, Paradogs are enjoying a high profile. The album will appeal to Hawkwind fans, and is long awaited by the Paradogs own fanbase. Paradogs are featured on a recent Hawkwind release (Family Tree Hawkvp5cd),which will increase the already high interest in this album. And now general imports that have recently been released which you'll find at : HAWKWIND-CHRONICLE OF BLACK SWORD + 5 (domestic) This 75 minute DVD is a British import, playable on USA systems. It features the 1985 stage performance at London's Hammersmith Odeon with rare footage, and a never before released encore including 5 bonus tracks, 'Coded Languages', Born To Go', 'Utopia', 'Levitation' and 'Needlegun'. This release is in 0 format and will play anywhere in the world. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Mar 3 13:34:26 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:34:26 -0000 Subject: HW: The Orb Message-ID: Bought it today! Will let you know when I've heard it. ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: HW: The Orb Anyone catch the Orb on their early tours - imagine my suprise when I saw the cover of Lucky Leif being used in the projections - incidently whatever happened to the rumoured Orb remix of Silver Machine. Back in 94 it was apparently set for release. All those rumours of the Orb doing gigs with Hawkwind were manifested with the appearance of Salt Tank. Anyone got the new Orb offering, is it any good? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Mar 3 14:02:52 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:02:52 -0000 Subject: HW: The Orb Message-ID: I thought that the 'Scourge Of The Earth' remix of Silver Machine was an Orb pseudonym - is that not right? Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: HW: The Orb Anyone catch the Orb on their early tours - imagine my suprise when I saw the cover of Lucky Leif being used in the projections - incidently whatever happened to the rumoured Orb remix of Silver Machine. Back in 94 it was apparently set for release. All those rumours of the Orb doing gigs with Hawkwind were manifested with the appearance of Salt Tank. Anyone got the new Orb offering, is it any good? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Mar 3 14:08:31 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:08:31 -0000 Subject: HW: Anyone want to trade? Message-ID: CDS can sell you some of the CD titles you listed but what is your own e.mail addres to let you know which and how much? Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Elmer To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: HW: Anyone want to trade? Hi folks - my local vintage record store has the following HW vinyl. I didn't check condition, year of issue etc but will do if anyone needs the LPs and would like to trade. Prices are those charged by the shop. Original vinyl: Calvert - Capt Lockheed & Starfighters (w lyric booklet, gatefold) ?15 Hawkwind - Business Trip double LP (foldout sleeve) ?15 Hawkwind - 1st LP picture disc (pic is from original inner sleeve) ?15 The following looked like reissues and are all around the ?4/5 mark: Astounding Sounds (2 copies) Quark Strangeness & Charm Xenon Codex Friends & Relations Vol 2 & 3 Live Chronicles (?6.50) Church of HW Zones I need the following - either excellent condition original vinyl or CD: Space Ritual Vol 2 BBC In Concert 73 Text of Festival Thrilling HW Adventures (Live 76) Love in Space (live 95) 1999 Party (live 74) Please mail me offlist to discuss further - thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 3 13:53:46 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:53:46 EST Subject: HW: The Orb Message-ID: In a message dated 3/3/01 1:51:35 PM, andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: << thought that the 'Scourge Of The Earth' remix of Silver Machine was an Orb pseudonym - is that not right? Andy Garibaldi. >> Well Andy, I thought that Scourge of the Earth involved members or a member of KLF? Am I the one confused? Eli From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Sat Mar 3 14:09:10 2001 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:09:10 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind releases In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.20010303180554.01253744@gwis.com> Message-ID: Speaking of releases, I've always wondered where the complete tape is of the Chicago show from the 78 US QS&C tour (the source of "Spirit of the Age" on Friends and Relations)-It would make a GREAT release. Anybody know, or is this one of those forever-lost things? Dave At 01:05 PM 3/3/01 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, folks: > >The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety >at . Meanwhile, here are some excerpts >for Hawkwind fans: > >Coming soon from Voiceprint >Hawkwind/Atomhenge - 76 >The kings of Space Rock have been captured live in 1976 with this brilliant >recording of a memorable tour. This particular recording is very special as >the band are joined by legendary vocalist Bob Calvert. Hawkwind go through >their paces playing classics from that period which will be a must for all >those in their extensive fanbase. Specially mastered for CD , a double >package which comes complete with a full colour reproduction of Hawkwind's >1976 tour program. Hawkwind have a high profile, attracting a lot of press >attention especially with recent sell out concerts at Brixton Academy and at >the Astoria London. > >Hawkwind/Family Tree >Family tree carries on where the Hawkwind Friends and Relations series on >Flick - knife Records left off. Family tree is a collection of both solo and >group efforts. ALL the tracks are previously unreleased and are collected >here to make a very special compendium. Specially mastered for CD and >featuring a full colour booklet this album is a must for all Hawkwind fans. >There are tracks from the Paradogs, The Little Big Men, Ron Tree, liz Gizzad >and of course Dave Brock. > >Harry Williamson/Life in the World Unseen >Harry Williamson has worked with great talents over the years and this album >includes a good representation of these musicians. From Harry's earlier >years during the Mother Gong days there is Didier Malherbe, Guy Evans and >from later years Gilli Smyth, Rob Calvert, Rob George (Mother Gong) and >Conrad Henderson (Mother Gong). More recent projects have included Liz Van >Dort (Faraway) and Miles McNicholl and Harry's daughter Bee who also >contribute to this brilliant album. Harry left Gong in 1993 and has pursued >his own musical career and this CD is a collection of previously unreleased >tracks which he has gathered together covering a 20 year span. The Highlands >suite for example captures the Australian landscape with its beauty in >desolation quite unlike the European experience. Tibetan instruments, >combined with a didgeridoo and angel guitar create a unique mood which is >developed by the haunting simple guitar melody. This is by and large an >ambient carefully crafted and unusual CD, mainly instrumental and quite >unlike anything Harry has released before musically.. There is however a few >elements from the later Mother Gong recordings and from Tarka the album he >recorded with Anthony Phillips. > >Paradogs/Foul Play at the Earth Lab >Well known Hawkwind member Jerry Richards also performs as Paradogs with Alf >Hardy. All the tracks on this album were written and produced by the duo who >have carefully crafted their music to ensure that the listener enjoys a >brilliant album. Due to the popularity of Hawkwind, and sell out London >concerts which also include Jerry Richards, Paradogs are enjoying a high >profile. The album will appeal to Hawkwind fans, and is long awaited by the >Paradogs own fanbase. Paradogs are featured on a recent Hawkwind release >(Family Tree Hawkvp5cd),which will increase the already high interest in >this album. > >And now general imports that have recently been released which you'll find >at : >HAWKWIND-CHRONICLE OF BLACK SWORD + 5 (domestic) >This 75 minute DVD is a British import, playable on USA systems. It features >the 1985 stage performance at London's Hammersmith Odeon with rare footage, >and a never before released encore including 5 bonus tracks, 'Coded >Languages', Born To Go', 'Utopia', 'Levitation' and 'Needlegun'. This >release is in 0 format and will play anywhere in the world. > >Gary > >************************************************************** > Gary Davis >The Artist Shop The Other Road >http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com >phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 > INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! >************************************************************** > Artist Shop Radio > Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at > http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Mar 3 14:02:47 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:02:47 -0600 Subject: HW:MANDRAGORA LIGHTSHOW SOCIETY/NIK TURNER/ANDY G In-Reply-To: <001301c0a3e3$8ad20fe0$241428d5@starfield> Message-ID: Dear interested fans +ANDY G The Mandragora Lightshow Society CD with Nik guesting has been released on CD here in Texas ...... Andy,,,,if you want me to hook you up with the guy....he is a friend of the shop owner where my CD's are piling up and causing an obstacle in their store(haha) bye m From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sat Mar 3 14:22:40 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:22:40 -0000 Subject: HW: The Orb In-Reply-To: Message-ID: jimmy cauty of the klf who did used to be in the orb in the early days colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Eli Friedman Sent: 03 March 2001 18:54 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: The Orb In a message dated 3/3/01 1:51:35 PM, andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: << thought that the 'Scourge Of The Earth' remix of Silver Machine was an Orb pseudonym - is that not right? Andy Garibaldi. >> Well Andy, I thought that Scourge of the Earth involved members or a member of KLF? Am I the one confused? Eli From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 3 14:21:56 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:21:56 EST Subject: HW: The Orb Message-ID: That makes sense. Thanks Colm. I was trying to think of J.C.'s name. Eli In a message dated 3/3/01 2:19:46 PM, bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK writes: << jimmy cauty of the klf who did used to be in the orb in the early days colm >> From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Sat Mar 3 13:59:09 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:59:09 +0100 Subject: HW: The Orb In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, >Well Andy, I thought that Scourge of the Earth involved members or a member >of KLF? >Am I the one confused? Eli Nope, you aren't ;-) The Scourge of the Earth-remix was done by Jimmy Cauty of the KLF. (c)IAO D+R np: Magma "?d? W?d?" -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From swann at CUGC.ORG Sat Mar 3 14:33:46 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:33:46 -0500 Subject: HW: Spacebrock - a few comments In-Reply-To: <200102211058.KAA04313@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from M Holmes on Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:58:21AM +0000 Message-ID: Always knew the pressure of doing the Codex would one day break you! ;-) Steve On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:58:21AM +0000, M Holmes wrote: > J D writes: > > > The final track "Do You Want This Body" is also missing, however Damage = > > Of Life has been snuck in without any mention on the sleeve. > > Of the remaining tracks that are both on the sleeve and actually on the = > > CD, you can choose your own title of at least 3 of the songs as the = > > words in the booklet are listed under different titles to the rear. > > Take your pick between : > > To Be Or Not / To Be > > The Starkness Of The Capsule / Pressing You > > 1st Landing / The First Landing On Medusa > > Wonderfully confusing, intentional or just a mass cock-up? > > Dave: Hey Richard - logged the net lately? > > Richard: Yeah. > > Dave: What's happening? > > Richard: Oh. The usual. They're playing Meta Mornington Crescent now. > > Dave: These guys are amazing. Any new files? > > Richard: Nah. But there's been talk of a new Codex. > > Dave: I can't believe anyone could sit and listen to variations of all > the tracks. > > Richard: They probably don't. They're just making it up. > > Dave: Nah. I think they really do this. > > Richard: Let's run a test: make things tricky and see if they catch on. > > Dave: Like how? > > Richard: How about having several albums all called the same name? > > Dave: Nah. We've done that one. We're now up to 5 Masters of the > Universe and 4 Silver Machines. > > Richard: How about listing tracks that aren't on the album? > > Dave: Done that too, and got the t-shirts printed. > > Richard: Not listing tracks that are there? > > Dave: Been there, done that. > > Richard: Putting the same track twice? > > Dave: Done. > > Richard: Used the lyrics for one track in another track? > > Dave. Done. > > Richard: Used the music for one track in another track? > > Dave: Done. > > Richard: There's nothing for it but to start doing these in various > combinations. Maybe we could get Dave Anderson in on it. He's > pretty good at that sort of thing. > > Dave: Good plan! Where's my mobile? From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Mar 3 14:42:11 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:42:11 -0600 Subject: HW: OFF ELI FRIEDMAN-request In-Reply-To: <3d.8392782.27d29e54@aol.com> Message-ID: ELI!!! THIS is mike calling.....hello! please answer your phone....it'll only take a minute! do re me From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Mar 3 15:33:33 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:33:33 -0600 Subject: HW: Warrior "hair"/re-revisited In-Reply-To: <013d01c0a3df$d4d2e780$904b883e@jezd> Message-ID: JD---The "Golden Goose" made your Warrior.....can we please turn it into "My Warrior"??? just ask your friends if theirs have the hair.....bet you get a yes...MOST DO! less don't...but none are that big of a deal......just to people like me that can't find the lady...... FEE??? where's FEE uh oh.......think I'm gonna self-destruct.....(don't worry about meaning on this last stuff...)(but I am wondering ...FEE??) > Hi, What's all this about a "hair" appearing on the Warrior sleeve? >Just checked out my original UA Shield sleeve and can see no indication >of it. What does bug me though, is the line drawn where the "moon" >intercepts the cloud on the rear sleeve. I know it shouldn't ...... but it >does! Jez From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sat Mar 3 16:32:35 2001 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (blueskin69) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 21:32:35 +0000 Subject: HW:Hawkwind UK Tour Message-ID: Glasgow please, come on dave we've not seen you up here since 97 man! don't get me wrong i've had a good time when i've travelled down south to see Hawkwind at the Custom Bike Show 99, the Hawkestra 2000 ( my HONEYMOON ), the Xmas/New Year Party 2000 and i will be there at Croydon on the 25th. So once again please please come to Glasgow either the Barrowlands or the Garage saying that a band of your standing should be playing the Royal Concert Hall. I will get the contact numbers and names of promoters for these venues ASAP. XXX wrote: > We are thinking about organising a UK tour. We are looking for > suggestions of cities and venues.If you have a fantastic venue in your > home town, which has a capacity of at least 1000, that you think would > be ideal for a Hawkwind gig, let us know. (including contact number > for venue and name of usual promoter). HW -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Mar 3 17:27:46 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 22:27:46 +0000 Subject: HW : The famous chest of Kev Message-ID: Well, that was a lot of fun, wasn't it! -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Mar 3 17:28:54 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 22:28:54 +0000 Subject: HW: The Orb In-Reply-To: <001901c0a406$b00bdb60$ce4f893e@default> Message-ID: In article <001901c0a406$b00bdb60$ce4f893e at default>, david hall writes > Anyone got the new Orb offering, is it any good? > Yes, it's a right return to from. -- Jon From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sat Mar 3 17:35:25 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 22:35:25 -0000 Subject: FW: top ten prog show Message-ID: the footage of urban guerrilla and psy power both with bob calvert(looking fantastic by the way!) where is that from and why aint it available? Colm From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Mar 3 17:47:05 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:47:05 -0500 Subject: HW: Tour Info Message-ID: ++GREETINGS STAR WARRIORS Detail of Spring Tour dates and booking info are now on Mission Control Tour Page (Links from Mission Control Landing Zone or Updates) www.hawkwind.org.uk ++MESSAGE ENDS From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Sat Mar 3 18:25:09 2001 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:25:09 -0500 Subject: HW:Hawkwind UK Tour In-Reply-To: <001e01c0a3dd$936bf680$8c9193c3@default> Message-ID: Dave and all, How about Leeds (Massachussetts), Colchester (Virginia), Bath (New York), Dover (Delaware), Glasgow (Pennsylvania), and London (Michigan)? :>) Dave p.s. Is there any serious consideration for a North American Tour anytime soon? At 12:29 PM 3/3/01 +0000, you wrote: > > We are thinking about organising a UK tour. We are looking for suggestions of > cities and venues. > If you have a fantastic venue in your home town, which has a capacity of at > least 1000, that you think would be ideal for a Hawkwind gig, let us know. > (including contact number for venue and name of usual promoter). > > HW From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Mar 3 18:35:26 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:35:26 EST Subject: HW : The famous chest of Kev Message-ID: o.k. I give up....what did I miss? bob In a message dated 3/3/01 2:29:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > Well, that was a lot of fun, wasn't it! > -- > Jon Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Mar 3 19:29:05 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:29:05 +0000 Subject: HW : The famous chest of Kev In-Reply-To: <3f.116e057a.27d2d9be@aol.com> Message-ID: In article <3f.116e057a.27d2d9be at aol.com>, Bob Lennon writes >o.k. I give up....what did I miss? >bob Kev's T-shirt, with Michael B's badge on Channel 4! I have to confess, when it was over..... it was Supper's Ready I shook the walls with. Am I a splitter? Is Jethro Tull the biggest hole in my collection? Who lives, who dies, in the annuls of prog... I still don't believe the Nik farting story, but is the hawk over the forest greater than the eagle over the mountain? heh. Or is this the Aeon of Horus? and was that the Wind of Change? Do our band rule? Or what? We rule! We rule! It was sweet to see again the living Bob. Sleep well, beautiful poet Bob, you fucking living beautiful man. All the machines are quiet. Am I drunk now? Am I having fun yet? I killfile myself *plonk* Goodnight beautiful friends, I *plonk* now! -- Jon From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Mar 3 19:37:36 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:37:36 EST Subject: HW : The famous chest of Kev Message-ID: cool, Kev's chest is cool. good work Kev. bob In a message dated 3/3/01 4:30:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > In article <3f.116e057a.27d2d9be at aol.com>, Bob Lennon > writes > >o.k. I give up....what did I miss? > >bob > > Kev's T-shirt, with Michael B's badge on Channel 4! Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 3 20:15:08 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:45:08 +1030 Subject: chronicle of the black sword video cd Message-ID: Is that the DVD? ----- Original Message ----- From: bedroom trancer To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:44 PM Subject: chronicle of the black sword video cd > I just received the chronicle of the black sword video cd through the post > today and was wondering does anyone know of any software for the pc that can > play this through my cd-rom? Hopefully freeware or very cheap? > > cheers > > colm From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Mar 3 20:20:17 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:20:17 EST Subject: chronicle of the black sword video cd Message-ID: It sounds like the Visionary video cd, (released about 6 years ago?) I just popped it into my computer and it started playing. It's possible that any pc with windows may have the player built in? bob In a message dated 3/3/01 5:13:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > Is that the DVD? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bedroom trancer > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:44 PM > Subject: chronicle of the black sword video cd > > > > I just received the chronicle of the black sword video cd through the post > > today and was wondering does anyone know of any software for the pc that > can > > play this through my cd-rom? Hopefully freeware or very cheap? > > > > cheers > > > > colm > Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sat Mar 3 20:37:02 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:37:02 GMT Subject: FW: top ten prog show Message-ID: KHENN BAALOWE!! Well that prog, answered a few questions did'nt it? Yes there is COLOUR footage of Ritual and Yes there was a film to accompany 'Urban Guerilla' This was amazing - seeing Stacia in full flight, Dave in his 'Meliadus' tshirt and a long haired Bob singing 'Urban Guerilla', 'Orgone Accumulator' and the Hawklords doing 'PSI Power' THE FOOTAGE IS OUT THERE PS great to see a few faces from tyhe list on the all too short Beehive clip- great shirt Kev!! Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sat Mar 3 20:38:00 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:38:00 GMT Subject: HW top ten prog show Message-ID: > KHENN BAALOWE!! > >Well that prog, answered a few questions did'nt it? >Yes there is COLOUR footage of Ritual >and Yes there was a film to accompany 'Urban Guerilla' >This was amazing - seeing Stacia in full flight, Dave in his 'Meliadus' tshirt and a long haired Bob singing 'Urban Guerilla', 'Orgone Accumulator' and the Hawklords doing 'PSI Power' >THE FOOTAGE IS OUT THERE > >PS great to see a few faces from tyhe list on the all too short Beehive clip- great shirt Kev!! > >Mick Sorry I hadn't put it under the HW heading! > >May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. > >-------------------- >talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 3 20:55:08 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:25:08 +1030 Subject: HW: Sonic Attack tour Message-ID: Which album is the Live choose your masques? ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 3:48 AM Subject: HW: Sonic Attack tour Having just listened to the Choose Your Masques Live CD,which improves with listening, I got to wondering if there is a chance of a gig from the Sonic Attack tour being released. 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Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 3 21:10:14 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:40:14 +1030 Subject: Mission Control Message-ID: Hi Rik in a previous email there was an update for new tshirt but they are the same ones shown on the page as allways? Mb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 3 21:13:30 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:43:30 +1030 Subject: HW : The famous chest of Kev Message-ID: Is that all there was from the beehive? Kevs fuzz & his badge? Have I heard correctly? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Browne To: Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 10:59 AM Subject: Re: HW : The famous chest of Kev > In article <3f.116e057a.27d2d9be at aol.com>, Bob Lennon > writes > >o.k. I give up....what did I miss? > >bob > > Kev's T-shirt, with Michael B's badge on Channel 4! > > I have to confess, when it was over..... it was Supper's Ready I shook > the walls with. Am I a splitter? Is Jethro Tull the biggest hole in my > collection? > > Who lives, who dies, in the annuls of prog... > > I still don't believe the Nik farting story, > but is the hawk over the forest greater than the eagle over the > mountain? heh. > > Or is this the Aeon of Horus? > > and was that the Wind of Change? > > Do our band rule? Or what? > > We rule! We rule! > > It was sweet to see again the living Bob. > Sleep well, beautiful poet Bob, you fucking living beautiful man. > All the machines are quiet. > > Am I drunk now? Am I having fun yet? > > I killfile myself > > *plonk* > > > > Goodnight beautiful friends, I *plonk* now! > -- > Jon > From swann at CUGC.ORG Sat Mar 3 21:49:20 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 21:49:20 -0500 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet In-Reply-To: <3A951F89.30509.1809C35@localhost>; from Ted Jackson on Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 02:17:46PM -0400 Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 02:17:46PM -0400, Ted Jackson wrote: > On 22 Feb 2001, at 13:58, K Henderson wrote: > > > Theo asked... > > > > >Does anyone know the website that's sort of a clearinghouse for > > >stoner rock? It was mentioned in a Guitar World article last fall, > > >but I can't find it [heh, heh]... > > > > www.meteorcity.com? > > > No, that's not it, but I am enjoying it right now. Thanks for the link... http://www.stonerrock.com/ Although Meteor City is just as cool... Steve From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Mar 4 03:55:36 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:55:36 -0000 Subject: good places to live (Carlisle) Message-ID: Technically there are 3 of us then. My mate Doug is a hawkwind Fan. But then he has been disinclined to talk to me since I wore that atrocious Silver outfit to Brixton ;-) Or maybe it was the fact I wore it all the way down from Carlisle to London. LoL or it could have been the hair and face glitter. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Robertson" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 11:08 AM Subject: Re: good places to live? > THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE IN CARLISLE WHO LIKES HAWKWIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. > and I thought I was the only one. > Mark From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Mar 4 04:08:05 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:08:05 -0000 Subject: OFF: Napster update Message-ID: Damn Good Job I downloaded those 30 albums last week then ;-) Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 1:06 PM Subject: OFF: Napster update > this seems pretty screwy to me; maybe later on today i'll punch in, oh i > dunno, "stairway to heaven" and see what happens...oy... > > "<>" > > > > Napster Says It Will Block Copyrighted Songs > Company Waits for Judge's Ruling > > By Michael Kahn > Reuters > > SAN FRANCISCO (March 1) - Napster Inc., facing a corporate death sentence at > the hands of a federal judge, bought itself a brief reprieve on Friday by > promising to block users from accessing some one million music files covered > by recording industry copyrights. > > Some industry analysts said, however, that the online music song-swap service > may still be singing its swan song. > > Napster's last-ditch effort to conform with copyright law came as U.S. > District Judge Marilyn Hall Patel held a hearing on how to formulate an > injunction which fans fear could put the it out of business. > > Patel ended the hearing with a promise to draft an injunction order "that is > workable and makes sense" -- but gave no indication when she might issue it. > Legal observers do not expect a lengthy wait. > > Meanwhile, Napster's vow to filter out copyrighted music files starting this > weekend sparked cries of protest from users, who have made the service wildly > popular around the world by trading everything from Chinese pop songs to > Beethoven symphonies compressed into handy MP3 computer files. > > "Oh my God. I'd better finish downloading," said one Napster devotee > scrambling to grab as much music as possible before the screening system > takes effect. > > Napster's lead attorney, David Boies, said the new copyright protection > system should allow the company to stay in business -- although many industry > analysts questioned whether Napster would still have the same appeal if it no > longer offers the world's top pop hits for free. > > "I think Napster will still be the best music service out there, (but) it > will not be the same," Boies said. > > Napster's offer came amid some two hours of argument from its lawyers and > representatives of the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), > which has sued the Internet upstart on charges of facilitating widespread > music piracy. > > Industry analysts said while Napster's move may have won it more time to > negotiate with the recording industry, it did not mark a sure path to > survival for the company. > > MORE MEDIATION SCHEDULED > > Although the two sides have scheduled more mediation next week, Napster's > decision to play by recording industry rules could weaken its overall > negotiating position while driving once-loyal users to other services, they > said. > > "I'm sure that Napster usage will be very high this weekend and it will be > interesting to see the cat-and-mouse games as users try to get around the > blocking schemes," said Malcolm Maclachlan, analyst with technology tracking > firm International Data Corp. "The main effect will be to grow usage on other > peer-to-peer networks like Aimster and Gnutella." > > Ric Dube, an analyst with Webnoize, said the recording industry would likely > continue to press for a quick injunction to make sure Napster agrees to all > of its terms. > > "Once the injunction is in place, these two sides could come together for a > negotiation," said Dube. "Napster hasn't said uncle yet and the record > companies need to hear before entering any discussions." > > The court battle over Napster's future -- involving everyone from the > company's youthful founder to major rock stars and one of the most famous > lawyers in the country -- is a defining case for copyrights in cyberspace and > could affect the way books, movies and all entertainment will be distributed > online for years to come. > > NAPSTER OFFERS TO POLICE ITSELF > > At Friday's hearing, Napster's lawyers said the company was racing to perfect > new software to filter out copyrighted material and hoped to reach agreement > soon with the recording industry on how to identify such material. > > "We have come considerably closer together on the issue of an injunction," > said Boies, who represented the Justice Department in its antitrust suit > against Microsoft. > > Boies said Napster would begin policing itself by blocking access to some one > million files of copyrighted music over the weekend, with more to come. > > Most of activity on Napster involves the unauthorized trade of copyrighted > material. But Napster says it is unable to identify which files are > copyrighted and which are not, putting the onus on the RIAA to provide lists > of material it believes represent copyright infringement. > > Lawyers for the recording industry, joined in court Friday by lawyers > representing artists Metallica and Dr. Dre, said they had already submitted a > list of some 5,600 song titles -- each of which could account for a vast > number of separate files on the Napster system -- to be blocked. > > While the RIAA's legal team pointed out that serious questions remained about > how the new screening process would work, RIAA President Hilary Rosen had > some rare words of praise for the online company, saying it was the first > time Napster had sought to obey existing copyright laws. > > "We made a lot of progress in court today," Rosen said. "It is important for > me to give some credit to Napster today." > > Napster's service has attracted about 60 million users who swap songs for > free by trading MP3 files, a compression format that turns music on compact > discs into small digital files. > > The major recording companies, represented by the RIAA, first sued Napster in > December 1999, claiming it aids copyright piracy and costs them billions of > dollars in lost sales. Patel issued an injunction on July, but a federal > appeals court two days later stayed her ruling pending review. > > MAJOR BLOW > > The embattled service was dealt a blow Feb. 12 when a three-judge panel from > the appeals court ruled that Napster could be held liable for copyright > infringement and that an injunction, which could essentially shut down > Napster, was not only warranted but required. > > In its ruling, the panel ordered Patel to require the record labels to > identify which of their copyrights were infringed on Napster. Friday's > hearing was called to hammer out the details of how such an order would be > implemented. > > In an effort to draw up a workable long-term business plan, Napster has > embarked on a project with major investor Bertelsmann AG to develop a new, > subscription version of its service, expected to be rolled out this summer. > > The company has also offered the recording industry a five-year $1 billion > deal to enable it to swap their music on a new secure service, but this has > drawn poor reviews from its main opponents, which include Vivendi Universal's > Universal Music, Sony Music, Warner Music and EMI Group Plc. > > Rtr 20:15 03-02-01 > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Mar 4 04:02:57 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:02:57 +0800 Subject: chronicle of the black sword video cd Message-ID: Hi there Media Player should be able to play it. When you go to the option to select files to play on Media Player, select to play All Files, as the actual video is not a .mpeg file. I can't quiet remember what file it is, but if you do a search for the largest file on the VCD, that's it. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "bedroom trancer" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: chronicle of the black sword video cd > I just received the chronicle of the black sword video cd through the post > today and was wondering does anyone know of any software for the pc that can > play this through my cd-rom? Hopefully freeware or very cheap? > > cheers > > colm > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Mar 4 04:12:22 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:12:22 -0000 Subject: Newcastle/EMI promo Message-ID: I was in Newcastle for the Large Record Fair Yesterday, there wasn't much rare Hawkstuff around. But I went down to Steel Wheels, and they had an EMI promo of the 3rd Disc of EpochEclipse. It was CD-R, with EMI printed onto the disc, with a white card insert containing track details, details of the company that did the copies for EMI. No Catalog Number. Anyone else seen one of these. Is it Real. ;-) It's 6-99. Fact: Newcastle is the only place I've ever seen anybody sledge (in snow) down to the beach, then go in surfing. It is cold LoL. Rich W. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Mar 4 04:15:26 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 03:15:26 -0600 Subject: HW EMI promo-legitamacy In-Reply-To: <029a01c0a48b$391bb360$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: the EPOCH ECLIPSE CDR Acetates ARE REAL......there are actually a lot of them turning up here and there..... they did them on both the 3 CD set (these are in individual form), and on the single edition...there are 4 total (in other words)....I have not played mine yet, except a song or 2.. ..maybe there are alternate versions of some tracks??? the place I got it from explained how they are legitamate and have come from one of the usual main studios in London (I believe) that these things are known to come from! HMMMMM mike c From jessica.swart at STUDENT.UVA.NL Sun Mar 4 05:33:52 2001 From: jessica.swart at STUDENT.UVA.NL (Donald en Jessica) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:33:52 +0100 Subject: HW:Hawkwind UK Tour Message-ID: Don't spoil them to much in the UK but come to Holland for a change. I selected 4 venues for you in Rotterdam, the European Cultural Capital of 2001: www.waterfront.nl (500 people; Astrosoniq) www.nighttown.nl (1850 people; Motorpsycho, Dead Moon) www.ahoy.nl (10,000 people; Deep Purple, Velvet Underground) www.dekuip.nl (50.000 people; Rolling Stones, U2) Hope to see you around here soon! Donald From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Mar 4 06:43:12 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:43:12 -0000 Subject: FW: top ten prog show Message-ID: I knew that would come up - it isn't available because whoever owns it doesn't want to make it available. Last night's show, although a complete embarassment (not even good enough to be bad) as a show, makes you realise just how much old media footage there is lurking away in the vaults that will never see the light of day commercially. Kinda sad, isn't it. As to where that was from, it will take the real experts on this group to answer that one. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "colm mcwilliams" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 10:35 PM Subject: FW: top ten prog show > the footage of urban guerrilla and psy power both with bob calvert(looking > fantastic by the way!) where is that from and why aint it available? > > Colm From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Mar 4 06:44:30 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:44:30 -0000 Subject: HW: The Orb Message-ID: that's it - well I was close!!! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Regenbrecht" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: Re: HW: The Orb > Hi, > > >Well Andy, I thought that Scourge of the Earth involved members or a member > >of KLF? > >Am I the one confused? Eli > > Nope, you aren't ;-) > The Scourge of the Earth-remix was done by Jimmy Cauty of the KLF. > > (c)IAO > > D+R > np: Magma "?d? W?d?" > > -- > "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" > Hassan I Sabbah > > www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Mar 4 06:50:11 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:50:11 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind releases Message-ID: I've noticed that this sort of question often comes up on this group and I've always presumed that most if not all are asking it, assuming that Dave Brock himself has a huge collection of live tapes from over the years but that doesn't count as it's not really part of the collectors market, but I must admit I have often wondered, not specific tapes of course (although I bet there's those of you out there that would love to view the Brock archives) does Dave actually have a huge tape collection of Hawk gigs or not, as so many musicians from the '70's that I encounter, hardly have anything at all - wirthout getting too specific or the risk of me prying into personal matters, any reply to this Dave, if you're listening? Just curious....... Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "dhuggins" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:09 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind releases > Speaking of releases, > > I've always wondered where the complete tape is of the Chicago show from > the 78 US QS&C tour (the source of "Spirit of the Age" on Friends and > Relations)-It would make a GREAT release. Anybody know, or is this one of > those forever-lost things? > > Dave > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Mar 4 06:54:48 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:54:48 -0000 Subject: HW: Sonic Attack tour Message-ID: Collectors Series Vol 2 - the double CD thing - you have that, surely!!! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael W Blackman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 1:55 AM Subject: Re: HW: Sonic Attack tour Which album is the Live choose your masques? ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 3:48 AM Subject: HW: Sonic Attack tour Having just listened to the Choose Your Masques Live CD,which improves with listening, I got to wondering if there is a chance of a gig from the Sonic Attack tour being released. That tour was a stormer and made the RCA studio ouput seem even more disappointing. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael W Blackman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 1:55 AM Subject: Re: HW: Sonic Attack tour Which album is the Live choose your masques? ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 3:48 AM Subject: HW: Sonic Attack tour Having just listened to the Choose Your Masques Live CD,which improves with listening, I got to wondering if there is a chance of a gig from the Sonic Attack tour being released. That tour was a stormer and made the RCA studio ouput seem even more disappointing. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Mar 4 07:25:21 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:25:21 -0000 Subject: FW: top ten prog show In-Reply-To: <00d701c0a4a0$4b67f280$ea0abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: maybe someone could get in contact with the program makers at channel 4 they would know where they got the footage from? colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI Sent: 04 March 2001 11:43 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: FW: top ten prog show I knew that would come up - it isn't available because whoever owns it doesn't want to make it available. Last night's show, although a complete embarassment (not even good enough to be bad) as a show, makes you realise just how much old media footage there is lurking away in the vaults that will never see the light of day commercially. Kinda sad, isn't it. As to where that was from, it will take the real experts on this group to answer that one. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "colm mcwilliams" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 10:35 PM Subject: FW: top ten prog show > the footage of urban guerrilla and psy power both with bob calvert(looking > fantastic by the way!) where is that from and why aint it available? > > Colm From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Mar 4 07:28:19 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:28:19 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind releases In-Reply-To: <4.1.20010303140058.031a39f0@mail.hypernova.net> Message-ID: In article <4.1.20010303140058.031a39f0 at mail.hypernova.net>, dhuggins writes >Speaking of releases, > > I've always wondered where the complete tape is of the Chicago show from >the 78 US QS&C tour (the source of "Spirit of the Age" on Friends and >Relations)-It would make a GREAT release. Anybody know, or is this one of >those forever-lost things? This is another one like the Glastonbury/Roundhouse Silver Machine. Friends and relations says it was recorded in Chicago, but it's exactly the same as the version on Weird Tapes 2, and that was allegedly recorded at de Montford Hall, Leicester according to the sleeve notes on the CD. According to the info I was mailed when Weird 2 was originally released on tape, it was either Stonehenge or Oxford. -- David Blair From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sun Mar 4 07:34:36 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:34:36 -0000 Subject: HW:Places to play Message-ID: Didn't realise their were so many Geordiephiles on the list! Which would be the best gig there for HW. The uni of Northumberland (where Whiplash is but the large room) The new Opera House venue or the old Riverside? Shame about the Mayfair........ Kris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From novadrive at HOME.COM Sun Mar 4 08:59:08 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 06:59:08 -0700 Subject: HW : The famous chest of Kev In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I must see this.......I will trade the mint Latvian 'Church of Hawkwind' with the mispressed poster and stickers that Mike doesn't know about for it if I have to, or whoever's first-born child I can get my hands on, but I must have a tape of this......................! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Bob Lennon Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 5:38 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW : The famous chest of Kev cool, Kev's chest is cool. good work Kev. bob In a message dated 3/3/01 4:30:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > In article <3f.116e057a.27d2d9be at aol.com>, Bob Lennon > writes > >o.k. I give up....what did I miss? > >bob > > Kev's T-shirt, with Michael B's badge on Channel 4! Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Sun Mar 4 10:36:22 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:36:22 +0000 Subject: FW: top ten prog show In-Reply-To: <00d701c0a4a0$4b67f280$ea0abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: I really enjoyed Hawkwinds portion on the show......although it left me frustrated and gagging for more. An awful lot of their history had to be skimmed over within the time slot allocated (as with many of the other bands on the show), but I was surprised how little the Hawkestra bit featured. If the BBC documentary (in the pipeline) happens, it should be great to see their history (and contribution) covered in the depth that it deserves. Lets have some more (previously unseen) footage....thats what I say!!!!! Oh....If you're reading this Dave Brock......your TV presence looked and sounded good ( dare I say......'debonaire'....even!). Might be time to take some action regarding your hair though. Time to send Kris down the local chemist for some Regaine Extra Strength! mel From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Mar 4 11:30:32 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:30:32 +0000 Subject: BOC: Some possible stuff In-Reply-To: <200102072022.PAA27044@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:44:04 -0500, Brian Halligan > wrote: > > >Chris Martin wrote: > >> Les Bronstein SWU vocalist has mentioned that Rhino Records may realease > >> Stalk Forrest Group and possibily SWU onto CD. > > > >Wow! If Rhino remasters them and throws in some good liner > >notes...drool.... > > That would be the perfect thing for Rhino to put on their limited- > edition "Rhino Homemade" imprint that included the Stooges/Funhouse box > set, the live Devo thing, Tim Buckley, etc. Might even be worth sending > the folks at Rhino an Email in support of the idea (I have a tape of the > SFG boot LP that came out a couple years back - it is well worthy of > release and would appeal to 60s/psych collectors as well as BOC fans). Rhino are lining up for some fair amount of my money given this and the recent Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band live album... And now the remasters too... How am I going to find it all? And a new album June 5, hem hem, I mean, is BOC-buying looking good at the moment or _what_? Yours, Jon ObCD: Man - _The Early Years_ -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Mar 4 11:50:19 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:50:19 -0000 Subject: HW:Places to play Message-ID: Forget the Riverside, its pretty small really, and not what it used to be University of Northumbria Has a couple of different size venues from memory. And Newcastle Uni used to be OK, used to go down there for the touring MEGADOG stuff. It's a bit difficult since the Mayfair shut :-( as it was about the right size. Got the old poster from the '92 Mayfair gig on the wall in front of me. By the way who did the T shirts for that Electric Tepee tour, because they were beautiful? Wore mine every week for 5 years until it fell apart while I was travelling round Europe. But they were the best Tye Dye tour T Shirts ever. Brushes tear away from eye. If you play Glasgow its a shame Renfrew Ferry might be a bit too Small, because it Kicks Ass as a venue. Saw Gong there, and it's very strange watching a gig and floating on water. Excellent Place to do Sea King lol. or Green Finned Demon actually floating ;-) Ozrics are playing there in May, I'm not actually sure what the capacity is but If you get the chance to play there it's a unique venue. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: XXX To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: HW:Places to play Didn't realise their were so many Geordiephiles on the list! Which would be the best gig there for HW. The uni of Northumberland (where Whiplash is but the large room) The new Opera House venue or the old Riverside? Shame about the Mayfair........ 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Perhaps Dave -----Original Message----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 03 March 2001 18:51 Subject: Re: HW: The Orb I thought that the 'Scourge Of The Earth' remix of Silver Machine was an Orb pseudonym - is that not right? Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: HW: The Orb Anyone catch the Orb on their early tours - imagine my suprise when I saw the cover of Lucky Leif being used in the projections - incidently whatever happened to the rumoured Orb remix of Silver Machine. Back in 94 it was apparently set for release. All those rumours of the Orb doing gigs with Hawkwind were manifested with the appearance of Salt Tank. Anyone got the new Orb offering, is it any good? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sun Mar 4 12:25:00 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:25:00 -0600 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: How large is the file? Also, on the hawkwind.com site, there is mention from a 1996 news posting about footage of "Hawkwind from a gig at the London Roundhouse in April 1970. This film was shot in colour on 35mm film, and is reported to be of excellent quality, edited with several different camera angles." Anyone know if it was ever released? Steve Litchfield wrote: > Yes, now enjoying last night's programme footage on Video CD after a nifty > bit of digitising 8-) > > But I agree with the guy who just posted. This proves that there IS > quite a bit of colour footage of HW in the 70s, can't we just find out who > at Chrysalis did the research for the program and ask them nicely where > all the bits were from? We need to know - and I bet a lot of us would pay > through the nose for decent length footage! > > Steve Litchfield From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Mar 4 12:31:38 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:31:38 -0000 Subject: HW Footage Message-ID: When was Urban Guerilla first played live? Knowing this might help date the footage to 72 or 73. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Mar 4 13:10:05 2001 From: Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:10:05 -0000 Subject: good places to live? In-Reply-To: <000201c0a3f4$253ee340$d656883e@fsnet.co.uk> Message-ID: And I thought I was the only one in Cumbria > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Mark Robertson > Sent: 03 March 2001 11:09 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: good places to live? > > > THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE IN CARLISLE WHO LIKES HAWKWIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. > and I thought I was the only one. > Mark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich Warren" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:19 AM > Subject: Re: good places to live? > > > > LoL. So the Percy is still there. Well somethings don't change. > > > > We used to go there before we went the Mayfair every Friday and > Saturday. > > And Newcastle is Great I lived there for 6 years and they had to drag me > > away kicking and screaming. I've still got my poster and some > fliers from > > the Hawkwind gig at the Mayfair in 1992. And yes it is cold. But > Wonderful. > > > > Rich W (Outcast in Carlisle) > > > > Carlisle is not wonderful. Carlisle = Stepford > > > > Damn: Theres a big record fair in Newcastle today.....running for > > train.....;-) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Layla Thompson" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:32 PM > > Subject: Re: good places to live? > > > > > > > Newcastle-upon-Tyne!!! > > > > > > A bit chilly at times, but undoubtably the greatest place on earth! > > > > > > Wonderful people, wonderful places, and a shop for pretty > much anything > > you could ever possibly want!! I have never been at a loss to find > something > > for too long. > > > ;-) > > > > > > Layla. > > > > > > (And there's the worlds greatest pub there to....The Percy Arms!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey folks, > > > > > > > > My apt. lease didn't get renewed, so I've got to find a new place to > > live. > > > > (phooey.) > > > > > > > > As I've never been overwhelmingly fond of Chicago in the first place > > > > (brrrrrrr), it may be time to move out. > > > > > > > > To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? > > > > Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job > > > > market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be > > > > a definite plus. > > > > > > > > (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game > shops/comic > > > > shops in the area.) > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Arin > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Mar 4 13:15:19 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:15:19 -0000 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: Yes Thats the stuff with no sound though. They got the film but lost the sound tapes. LoL Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Clark" To: Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 5:25 PM Subject: Re: HW: footage > How large is the file? > > Also, on the hawkwind.com site, there is mention from a 1996 news posting > about footage of "Hawkwind from a gig at the London Roundhouse in April 1970. > This film was shot in colour on 35mm film, and is reported to be of excellent > quality, edited with several different camera angles." > > Anyone know if it was ever released? > > > Steve Litchfield wrote: > > > Yes, now enjoying last night's programme footage on Video CD after a nifty > > bit of digitising 8-) > > > > But I agree with the guy who just posted. This proves that there IS > > quite a bit of colour footage of HW in the 70s, can't we just find out who > > at Chrysalis did the research for the program and ask them nicely where > > all the bits were from? We need to know - and I bet a lot of us would pay > > through the nose for decent length footage! > > > > Steve Litchfield > From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sun Mar 4 13:53:07 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:53:07 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: I haven't forgotten this, I just keep forgetting to take it into work to actually scan it. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Lockwood To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 5:32 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawk help > Ooh - I'd like to see that! :-) > > Could you mail me a copy at R.C.Lockwood at BTInternet.com please Kevin? > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > I've got a review from the Evening Standard if you haven't seen that. > > > > > > > > > > Hello folks! > > > > We urgently need: > > > > 1) The outside of the Brixton Academy on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over the > > entrance") > > 2) A scan of the Brixton ticket > > 3) Any adverts for the Brixton gig. > > > > Thanks > > > > D&K > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sun Mar 4 13:48:39 2001 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:48:39 +0100 Subject: FW: top ten prog show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dare I ask 'bout the Rush, KC, Yes and Genesis stuff ? How were they presented ? ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sun Mar 4 13:53:02 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:53:02 +0100 Subject: HW Footage In-Reply-To: <000e01c0a4d0$f90ceaa0$7a3d883e@default> Message-ID: Hi At 17:31 04.03.2001 +0000, you wrote: >When was Urban Guerilla first played live? Knowing this might help >date the footage to 72 or 73. The 1st known date is: 27.05.1973, LONDON, WEMBLEY STADIUM (The Yuri Gagarin record) Bernhard From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Sun Mar 4 14:25:40 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:25:40 +0000 Subject: FW: top ten prog show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Dare I ask 'bout the Rush, KC, Yes and Genesis stuff ? How were they >presented ? >------- >Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ >The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor They were presented well. However....if there had to be a question mark over the 'progressiveness' of any of the bands on this programme , then Genesis should have had their progressive score/rate reduced by at least a third on merit alone. Once Peter Gabriel left (after 'Lamb lies down on Broadway'), and Phil Collins became the frontman, their standing altered and gradually erred towards mainstream pop (ugh) over the following years...(I think)! mel From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Mar 4 14:46:31 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:46:31 +0000 Subject: HW:Places to play In-Reply-To: <00a501c0a4a7$7c88aec0$32d493c3@default> Message-ID: In article <00a501c0a4a7$7c88aec0$32d493c3 at default>, XXX writes > Didn't realise their were so many Geordiephiles on the list! > Which would be the best gig there for HW. > The uni of Northumberland (where Whiplash is but the large room) > The new Opera House venue > or the old Riverside? > Shame about the Mayfair........ There's always City Hall, they've played there loads of times. All- seated, but it's the right size - about 2000? -- David Blair From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Mar 4 15:33:20 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:33:20 EST Subject: HW Footage Message-ID: In a message dated 3/4/01 12:42:50 PM, dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << When was Urban Guerilla first played live? >> == this one could be wrong, but someone had once said it was only played live twice in the 73 era. one is on [a/k/a] 'yuri gargarin', and the other, done as an encore, sports lead vocals by lemmy! [bernhard and rainer have the show on their lists; rough quality, though] hmmm...but perhaps 'only twice' referred to versions available/known to collectors, unless the footage of a version w/calvert singing lead is the version from 5?/73, a/k/a 'yuri gargarin'. "<>" From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sun Mar 4 15:50:23 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:50:23 +0100 Subject: HW Footage In-Reply-To: <33.1178f1b9.27d40090@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi At 15:33 04.03.2001 -0500, you wrote: ><< When was Urban Guerilla first played live? >> >== >this one could be wrong, but someone had once said it was only played live >twice in the 73 era. > >one is on [a/k/a] 'yuri gargarin', >and the other, done as an encore, sports lead vocals by lemmy! [bernhard and >rainer have the show on their lists; rough quality, though] Larry, you are right. Here are the tapes we have where UG was played 27.05.1973, LONDON, WEMBLEY STADIUM gaga / in the egg / orgone accumulator / wage war / urban guerilla / master of the universe / welcome / sonic attack / silver machine 25.07.1973, SOUTHAMPTON, TOP RANK gaga / eternal champion / born to go / down through the night / it's so easy / brainbox pollution / black corridor / space is deep / watcher / warriors / brainstorm / seven by seven / sonic attack / time we left / master of the universe / standing at the edge / urban guerilla / seeing it as you really are Bernhard From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Sun Mar 4 16:15:14 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:15:14 +0000 Subject: HW Footage In-Reply-To: <200103042050.VAA28695@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: >Hi >At 15:33 04.03.2001 -0500, you wrote: >><< When was Urban Guerilla first played live? >> >>== >>this one could be wrong, but someone had once said it was only played live >>twice in the 73 era. >> >>one is on [a/k/a] 'yuri gargarin', >>and the other, done as an encore, sports lead vocals by lemmy! [bernhard and >>rainer have the show on their lists; rough quality, though] > >Larry, you are right. > >Here are the tapes we have where UG was played > >27.05.1973, LONDON, WEMBLEY STADIUM >gaga / in the egg / orgone accumulator / wage war / urban guerilla / master >of the universe / welcome / sonic attack / silver machine > >25.07.1973, SOUTHAMPTON, TOP RANK >gaga / eternal champion / born to go / down through the night / it's so >easy / brainbox pollution / black corridor / space is deep / watcher / >warriors / brainstorm / seven by seven / sonic attack / time we left / >master of the universe / standing at the edge / urban guerilla / seeing it >as you really are > > > >Bernhard Wow Bernhard! Southampton Top Rank 1973 was my 2nd HW gig. Would love to obtain a copy of this one. This gig was responsible for turning me onto German band NEU! The DJ played 'Forever' from the Neu 2 album during the interval and it was so brilliant I had to find out who & what it was ( not knowing while it was playing of course ). It was also the last time I saw Stacia perform......ahhh memories! Whats the quality like? regards mel From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Mar 4 16:20:55 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:20:55 -0000 Subject: HW: Warrior "hair"/re-revisited Message-ID: Mike, I think I probably need to see one WITH a hair to confirm that mine hasn't. I might be missing something! Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 8:33 PM Subject: Re: HW: Warrior "hair"/re-revisited > JD---The "Golden Goose" made your Warrior.....can we please turn it into > "My Warrior"??? just ask your friends if theirs have the hair.....bet you > get a yes...MOST DO! less don't...but none are that big of a > deal......just to people like me that can't find the lady...... > > FEE??? where's FEE uh oh.......think I'm gonna self-destruct.....(don't > worry about meaning on this last stuff...)(but I am wondering ...FEE??) > > > > > > > Hi, What's all this about a "hair" appearing on the Warrior sleeve? > >Just checked out my original UA Shield sleeve and can see no indication > >of it. What does bug me though, is the line drawn where the "moon" > >intercepts the cloud on the rear sleeve. I know it shouldn't ...... but it > >does! Jez > From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Mar 4 16:32:13 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:32:13 -0000 Subject: HW: Damage - calling Capt'n Black Message-ID: Keith, Thanx for that. Please send me a private e-mail that I can reply to, to give you an explanation! Cheers, Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 1:12 PM Subject: Re: HW: Nottingham gig, Brockspace, Damage "It's damaging init, life" ----- Original Message ----- From: J D To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: HW: Nottingham gig, Brockspace, Damage Hi, Anyone got any details of the Nottingham April gig? Like: Is it confirmed? Date? 1st/2nd April? Venue? By the way, since posting my mail about the total shambles of the tracks appearing / not appearing on Brockspace, I've learnt that this was an early mispress which has since been corrected to exactly the track list on the back. So this mis-press is unique in having this particular version of Damage Of Life?! Bit of a trivial point now, but I have my reasons for asking, can anyone make out what Ron says just as Damage Of Life starts at Astoria gig? Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Mar 4 17:03:11 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:03:11 -0600 Subject: Warrior incongruities re-re-re-revisited In-Reply-To: <000301c0a4f3$18f6a780$0344883e@jezd> Message-ID: >Mike, >I think I probably need to see one WITH a hair to confirm that mine hasn't. >I might be missing something! >Jez Look at the front cover of the "Shield" version of WARRIOR ....look at the "D" in the word HAWKWIND...now move your eye up to the very top edge, and then to the right about 3/4 of an inch...in case you are not used to the measurement, it doesn't matter..just take your eye all the way over to the right edge of the record, and if you didn't clearly see what looks like a white, horizontal "hair" that got caught in the printing press, then you have the one I look for .... The reason I want this, is not because the hair bothers me (it's also on the Liberty re-issues, by the way,....I want it because the colors on this copy are brighter and more beautiful.....) I can replace yours if you'd consider something, but on the other hand, Please do not feel that I am pouncing on your stuff...you want yours..you KEEP YOURS!! I could have one in the next 5 minutes probably, if I'd just quit yanking my chain on this list (hahaha)..... The Black Death (mc) From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Sun Mar 4 17:13:37 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:13:37 -0000 Subject: HW Footage Message-ID: Bernhard >27.05.1973, LONDON, WEMBLEY STADIUM >gaga / in the egg / orgone accumulator / wage war / urban guerilla / master >of the universe / welcome / sonic attack / silver machine Are you sure this was from Wembley Stadium??! The Yuri Gagarin sleeve has as this as the Empire Pool, which, if I'm not mistaken, was the old name for the Wembley Arena, an entirely different venue. Dave From swann at CUGC.ORG Sun Mar 4 19:22:10 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:22:10 -0500 Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: ; from Arin Komins on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:29:28AM -0600 Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:29:28AM -0600, Arin Komins wrote: > To that end, anyone want to pimp their particular part-of-the-world? > Warm would be nice, though not (sigh) necessary. A good IT job > market is important, and decent folks to hang out with would be > a definite plus. > > (bonuses if you have reasonable cd shops/sf bookstores/game shops/comic > shops in the area.) NYC. ;-) Steve From swann at CUGC.ORG Sun Mar 4 19:24:41 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:24:41 -0500 Subject: chronicle of the black sword video cd In-Reply-To: ; from bedroom trancer on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:14:36AM -0000 Message-ID: On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:14:36AM -0000, bedroom trancer wrote: > I just received the chronicle of the black sword video cd through the post > today and was wondering does anyone know of any software for the pc that can > play this through my cd-rom? Hopefully freeware or very cheap? How about a filter that will undo the director's overuse of the snow effect and chroma key? By half way through the video, I wanted to track down the video editor and beat him bloody. Steve From swann at CUGC.ORG Sun Mar 4 19:35:49 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:35:49 -0500 Subject: FW: top ten prog show In-Reply-To: <20010304012951.YMSG14764.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs>; from Michael Crook on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:37:02AM +0000 Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:37:02AM +0000, Michael Crook wrote: > KHENN BAALOWE!! > > Well that prog, answered a few questions did'nt it? > Yes there is COLOUR footage of Ritual > and Yes there was a film to accompany 'Urban Guerilla' > This was amazing - seeing Stacia in full flight, Dave in his 'Meliadus' tshirt and a long haired Bob singing 'Urban Guerilla', 'Orgone Accumulator' and the Hawklords doing 'PSI Power' > THE FOOTAGE IS OUT THERE This _must_ be gotten hold of, and put out as a vid. Ok, who do we have to bribe? Steve From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Mar 4 20:43:24 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:13:24 +1030 Subject: adden - something - Message-ID: anyway - just to add to a previous email regarding the channell 4 show I made a cooment that went something like is all they showed of the beehive gathering Kev's Fuzz & the badge I made This was meant to relate to an email I had read that said there was a good shot of Kevs chest And his badge It didn't occur to me untill a few seconds after pressinf send that it was Kevin Sommers shirt - do'oh i had the impression of the camera focusing in on someones chest & furry chest hair sprouting out the top of their shirt - oh what a twit Mb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 4 20:44:56 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:44:56 EST Subject: HW: Sonic Attack tour Message-ID: In a message dated 3/3/01 8:53:12 PM US Eastern Standard Time, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > Which album is the Live choose your masques? > > Prolly the Live '82 CD, I'd guess. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Mar 4 23:51:32 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:51:32 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind videos Message-ID: Hi all Anyone know the situation regarding the legalities of screening Hawkwind bootleg videos? I do volunteer work for Channel 31, a community access TV station in West Australia. They show things of varying quality on there. They say they go for quality, but they will show anything that they can really. I was wondering if they might show these videos, & whether I would need to get permission from the band, etc.? William From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Mon Mar 5 00:08:53 2001 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:08:53 +1100 Subject: HW: Spring tour Message-ID: David Bottomley wrote: Does anyone know the band line-up for the upcoming HW mini-tour? Captain Black replied: Yes! So Captain are you going to let us know ?, you could just tell the Overseas unattendee's if its a secret and we really wouldn't tell now. Will the "HAT" be appearing ? regards Marty From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Mon Mar 5 01:44:02 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:44:02 +0100 Subject: HW Footage In-Reply-To: <003001c0a4f8$5d0dbd00$4e3a70c2@merlinas> Message-ID: Hi Dave At 22:13 04.03.2001 +0000, you wrote: >>27.05.1973, LONDON, WEMBLEY STADIUM >>gaga / in the egg / orgone accumulator / wage war / urban guerilla / master >>of the universe / welcome / sonic attack / silver machine > > >Are you sure this was from Wembley Stadium??! The Yuri Gagarin sleeve has as >this as the Empire Pool, which, if I'm not mistaken, was the old name for >the Wembley Arena, an entirely different venue. It's the EMPIRE POOL. I always thought that the POOL (Arena) and the STADIUM were identical Bernhard From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Mar 5 04:15:33 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:15:33 -0000 Subject: FW: top ten prog show In-Reply-To: <20010304193549.04220@cugc.org> Message-ID: I was going to tape this - but some bastards broke into my flat on Friday night and nicked the video. Bastards, bastards, bastards. :-( Rich. > > > > Well that prog, answered a few questions did'nt it? > > Yes there is COLOUR footage of Ritual > > and Yes there was a film to accompany 'Urban Guerilla' > > This was amazing - seeing Stacia in full flight, Dave in his > 'Meliadus' tshirt and a long haired Bob singing 'Urban Guerilla', > 'Orgone Accumulator' and the Hawklords doing 'PSI Power' > > THE FOOTAGE IS OUT THERE > > This _must_ be gotten hold of, and put out as a vid. > > Ok, who do we have to bribe? > > Steve _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Mar 5 04:17:34 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:17:34 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help In-Reply-To: <00e901c0a4dc$5e1ea180$176aa8c0@alien8.co.uk> Message-ID: Cheers! (I had!) :-) Rich. > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Kevin Perry > Sent: 04 March 2001 18:53 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Hawk help > > > I haven't forgotten this, I just keep forgetting to take it into work to > actually scan it. > > --- > Kevin Perry > Sonic Energy Authority > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Lockwood > To: > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 5:32 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Hawk help > > > > Ooh - I'd like to see that! :-) > > > > Could you mail me a copy at R.C.Lockwood at BTInternet.com please Kevin? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > I've got a review from the Evening Standard if you haven't seen that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello folks! > > > > > > We urgently need: > > > > > > 1) The outside of the Brixton Academy on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over > the > > > entrance") > > > 2) A scan of the Brixton ticket > > > 3) Any adverts for the Brixton gig. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > D&K > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Mon Mar 5 04:33:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:33:00 +0000 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: >From: Tom Clark >Subject: Re: HW: footage >How large is the file? About 60MB (MPG), so emails are out, I'm afraid 8-) BTW, in the Hawklords footage, who was the bearded chap that kept being cropped to? Nik making a guest appearance or some glitch of their editing? Steve Litchfield "Simon King and Hawkwind", http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Mar 5 05:13:28 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:13:28 +0000 Subject: HW: footage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Steve Litchfield writes >>From: Tom Clark >>Subject: Re: HW: footage > >>How large is the file? > >About 60MB (MPG), so emails are out, I'm afraid 8-) > >BTW, in the Hawklords footage, who was the bearded chap that kept being >cropped to? Nik making a guest appearance or some glitch of their editing? Martin Griffin, the drummer -- David Blair From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Mon Mar 5 05:20:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:20:00 +0000 Subject: HW: footage again Message-ID: Just to say, I'm trying to contact the film researchers at Chrysalis now - please don't everybody try and do the same, or they'll get cheesed off with us! The two main film researchers on the 'Prog' TOP 10 program were Julian Adamoli and Debbie Young, but it seems they've both moved on and no longer work there 8-( so I'm going via one of their colleagues... You never know, something might come of it! Steve Litchfield From r.burton at HW.AC.UK Mon Mar 5 06:06:18 2001 From: r.burton at HW.AC.UK (Rob Burton) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:06:18 -0000 Subject: HW:Hawkwind UK Tour Message-ID: I second that. ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 03 March 2001 12:37 Subject: Re: HW:Hawkwind UK Tour Glasgow - Barrowlands (2 to 3 thousand) Glasgow - The Garage (less than a thousand) Dave -----Original Message----- From: XXX To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 03 March 2001 12:28 Subject: HW:Hawkwind UK Tour We are thinking about organising a UK tour. We are looking for suggestions of cities and venues. 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Live Aid in '85) but I don't think that HW ever quite had the pull to put on a gig there ;@) The Arena is a smaller, covered venue close by. Dave From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 5 07:19:20 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:19:20 +0000 Subject: HW: footage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Steve Litchfield writes >This proves that there IS >quite a bit of colour footage of HW in the 70s, can't we just find out who >at Chrysalis did the research for the program and ask them nicely where >all the bits were from? FWIW Chrysalis was bought by EMI some years ago. I wouldn't have thought EMI would know either, but I know someone whose usually pretty helpful to ask. I had a hangover alrighty on Sunday. :) -- Jon From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon Mar 5 10:25:03 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:25:03 -0500 Subject: BOC: News Message-ID: > I just a saw a Tyranny & Mutation amd Secret Treaties together in > black colored deluxe looking package. It said it had > bonus Tracks. Do you think this will have the same tracks as you list > below? It was called something like Back in > Black. That is not rally the title, but it is something like that. The > 2 CDs were $30.00. I should have looked at the > label, but I did not. I was going to buy this. Has anyone seen it yet? > Chris O.K., here's the deal on the "Back To Black" package (I have a copy). This was released by the French label AXEKILLER, and has both Tyranny & Mutation and Secret Treaties -- these are remastered presumably from the original source - you know that current flaw on "Cagey Cretins" on the Secret Treaties CD? GONE! The liner notes are pretty cool, and contain lyrics -- only problem is that they took these from the fanclub website, and used them without permission or proper credit. It appears that it was not done maliciously - the liner notes do mention www.blueoystercult.com, and Melne has speculated that they must have thought this information was public domain stuff - in actualilty though, Melne create those notes on BOC's early history (which are much more well-written than the history section of the BOC FAQ). Still, it is a nice product. Now, as for the "Bonus Tracks", they simply took a track from the first BOC album and added one to each CD - so Tyranny & Mutation has "Cities On Flame With Rock And Roll" at the end, and Secret Treaties has "Stairway To The Stars" -- but these are just the same tracks from the first BOC album, albeit remastered. SO, the new SONY remasters will NOT be this package - and, with the remasters coming out, there is really little need to get this package (although it is well done). John From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Mon Mar 5 10:31:33 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:31:33 -0000 Subject: HW Footage In-Reply-To: <006301c0a568$703558a0$50219dc3@merlinas> Message-ID: The Arena seats 12,000 ... still quite a large audience ;-) It's as close to the Stadium as it's possible to be. Alasdair On 5 Mar 01, at 11:35, David Bottomley wrote: > >>Are you sure this was from Wembley Stadium??! The Yuri Gagarin sleeve has > as > >>this as the Empire Pool, which, if I'm not mistaken, was the old name for > >>the Wembley Arena, an entirely different venue. > > > >It's the EMPIRE POOL. I always thought that the POOL (Arena) and the > >STADIUM were identical > > > >Bernhard > > No, the Stadium is a (now defunct) sports stadium that's also hosted > numerous big concert events over the years (inc. Live Aid in '85) but I > don't think that HW ever quite had the pull to put on a gig there ;@) The > Arena is a smaller, covered venue close by. -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Mon Mar 5 14:04:45 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:04:45 -0800 Subject: FW: top ten prog show Message-ID: Is there a possibility that someone who recorded this can get a copy over to this side of the pond? Converted would be nice, but if it come to it that can be dealt with..... scorch From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Mar 5 14:26:29 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:26:29 -0000 Subject: FW: top ten prog show Message-ID: technically - all of EMI - start saving!!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Swann" To: Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 12:35 AM Subject: Re: FW: top ten prog show > On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:37:02AM +0000, Michael Crook wrote: > > KHENN BAALOWE!! > > > > Well that prog, answered a few questions did'nt it? > > Yes there is COLOUR footage of Ritual > > and Yes there was a film to accompany 'Urban Guerilla' > > This was amazing - seeing Stacia in full flight, Dave in his 'Meliadus' tshirt and a long haired Bob singing 'Urban Guerilla', 'Orgone Accumulator' and the Hawklords doing 'PSI Power' > > THE FOOTAGE IS OUT THERE > > This _must_ be gotten hold of, and put out as a vid. > > Ok, who do we have to bribe? > > Steve From Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Mar 5 14:59:06 2001 From: Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:59:06 -0000 Subject: FW: top ten prog show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Good Evening All Owing to a slight disaster in the video department my machine failed to record the important part of the top ten if anyone could make me a copy please email me off list and we could arrange a swap Thanks Brian From Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Mar 5 15:01:21 2001 From: Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:01:21 -0000 Subject: Napster: Calling Catspussy In-Reply-To: <20010304193549.04220@cugc.org> Message-ID: If by any chance someone on list uses the handle Catspussy on Napster please get in touch to arrange a trade to save our phone bills Thanks Brian> From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Mar 5 15:49:53 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:49:53 -0500 Subject: OFF: Imagining Yellow Suns Message-ID: I came across this "neo-psychedelic" band on AllMusic.com, but there wasn't any bio or other info except that their album (from 1990) received a 4.5 stars. I've checked the Web and have come up with nothing except a track listing and one obscure online shop that was selling it. Has anyone heard of these guys? Are they as good as AllMusic suggests? Their album was released on Dr. Dream records, but I haven't found much info on the record company either. Thanks, Brian From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Mar 5 16:03:01 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:03:01 -0500 Subject: HW: Dutch Progressive Rock Page Update ! Message-ID: Forwarded for info: Dutch Progressive Rock Page Update ! DPRP has a new column ! Our very own 'Master of the Obscure', Nigel, is bringing you Forgotten Sons. This can be considered the opposite of Counting Out Time. Whereas CoT featured all of those successful bands and albums that became prog rock milestones, Forgotten Sons focuses on those artists, bands and albums that time forgot. Forgotten Sons is prog rock's 'grey area', which is reflected in the controversial design of the column. In the first update of Forgotten Sons we bring you a special on Tim Blake. Added to that, you'll also find an interview with the man himself in DPRP's Specials section. Hope you enjoy the new offering of DPRP and we are looking forward to hearing your feedback and suggestions. Enjoy, Ed From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 5 16:24:01 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:24:01 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dead Moon (was Hawkwind UK Tour) Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:33:52 +0100, Donald wrote: >I selected 4 venues for you in Rotterdam, the European Cultural Capital >of 2001: >www.nighttown.nl (1850 people; Motorpsycho, Dead Moon) In that case, it's definitely a cultural capital. The rock fans of the Netherlands and Germany are obviously FAR MORE advanced and WAY cooler than those in the USA if Dead Moon can fill an 1850-capacity venue there! In most US cities, they'd be lucky to draw 185 people (and probably less in their hometown of Portland, Oregon). Pretty pathetic for the greatest rock band in the world (besides Hawkwind, of course). DEAD MOON rule!!! (AND they're incredibly nice people, AND they run a way cool music store.) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Mar 5 22:58:50 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Ed) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:58:50 -0500 Subject: Original Silver Machine recording In-Reply-To: <1olRVKAye+n6EwNF@puddytat.fsnet.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks for the info, that's a good CD source. The Greasy Truckers still available HAWKKVP2CD 14.99, does that definately have Bobs Silver Machine on it? My vinyl Greasy Truckers only has Born to Go and Master of the Universe. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Tigger Sent: 02 March 2001 13:34 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Original Silver Machine recording In article <200103021826.SAA27441 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Tigger writes: > >> In article <200103021246.MAA23337 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes >> writes >> >Jobson, Ed writes: >> > >> >> Anyone know if the original version of Silver Machine released on >> >> Glastonbury Fayre is available anywhere else? >> >> Napster >> >> >Only on the Assassins of Allah and Dawn of Hawkwind boots. >> >> I've recently listened to both the Glastonbury Fayre and Greasy Truckers >> versions of Silver Machine/Welcome to the Future, and the only >> difference I can see is the sound quality is better on Truckers - seems >> to be the same recording? > >Silver Machine isn't on the Greasy Truckers LP, though it's true that >the Silver Machine and Welcome tracks from The Glastonbury Fayre album >are actually the Greasy Truckers recordings, so if you're listening to a >tape or boot of Greasy Truckers then certainly that's the version you'll >hear. > >Is there a boot CD or CDR of the whole Greasy Truckers gig? There's an official (I think) CD of it http://search.cdzone.co.uk/cgibin/cdzwww.cgi?1,Find,searchform,BAFB3E4C1 97046B239BBF1D28151C610! Several versions by the look of it >There's also something in the back of my mind about the actual single >just being a remix of another (or this?) track with Lemmy's vocals >overdubbing Calvert's. Yes, and the solos are overdubs - it's puzzled me for years that it's supposed to have been recorded at the Roundhouse on the same day as Greasy Truckers but the Glastonbury version is obviously the one that provided most of the material (Except overdubs) for the single. Now I'm puzzled as to why it's on the Glastonbury album if it wasn't recorded there. -- Tigger From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Mar 5 23:01:16 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Ed) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:01:16 -0500 Subject: Nottingham gig, Brockspace, Damage In-Reply-To: <009601c0a3dd$0c927a80$904b883e@jezd> Message-ID: This mispressed Space Brock is apparently what Voiceprint offer as the freebie with your 10 vouchers. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of J D Sent: 03 March 2001 07:22 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Nottingham gig, Brockspace, Damage Hi, Anyone got any details of the Nottingham April gig? Like: Is it confirmed? Date? 1st/2nd April? Venue? By the way, since posting my mail about the total shambles of the tracks appearing / not appearing on Brockspace, I've learnt that this was an early mispress which has since been corrected to exactly the track list on the back. So this mis-press is unique in having this particular version of Damage Of Life?! Bit of a trivial point now, but I have my reasons for asking, can anyone make out what Ron says just as Damage Of Life starts at Astoria gig? Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Mar 5 23:18:00 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Ed) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:18:00 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind releases In-Reply-To: <00e901c0a4a1$45540cc0$ea0abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Dave probably and the rest of the band probably haven't got as much as we might expect. I swapped some tapes with Dave about 20 years ago now. He wanted some recordings of him off of the radio 1967 (maybe now the Dawn of HW CD?) and in return gave me some stuff from an Electronica festival in the early 80's. Also Nik contacted me ages ago and Tim Blake told me recently I had more live recordings of him than he did! They must have some stuff though, it would be interesting. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI Sent: 04 March 2001 06:50 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkwind releases I've noticed that this sort of question often comes up on this group and I've always presumed that most if not all are asking it, assuming that Dave Brock himself has a huge collection of live tapes from over the years but that doesn't count as it's not really part of the collectors market, but I must admit I have often wondered, not specific tapes of course (although I bet there's those of you out there that would love to view the Brock archives) does Dave actually have a huge tape collection of Hawk gigs or not, as so many musicians from the '70's that I encounter, hardly have anything at all - wirthout getting too specific or the risk of me prying into personal matters, any reply to this Dave, if you're listening? Just curious....... Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "dhuggins" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:09 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind releases > Speaking of releases, > > I've always wondered where the complete tape is of the Chicago show from > the 78 US QS&C tour (the source of "Spirit of the Age" on Friends and > Relations)-It would make a GREAT release. Anybody know, or is this one of > those forever-lost things? > > Dave > From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Mar 5 23:21:30 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Ed) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:21:30 -0500 Subject: FW: top ten prog show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I thought of this straight away after seeing it on Saturday. I would have thought most stuff in the 70's would have originally been recorded by the BBC? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of colm mcwilliams Sent: 04 March 2001 07:25 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: FW: top ten prog show maybe someone could get in contact with the program makers at channel 4 they would know where they got the footage from? colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI Sent: 04 March 2001 11:43 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: FW: top ten prog show I knew that would come up - it isn't available because whoever owns it doesn't want to make it available. Last night's show, although a complete embarassment (not even good enough to be bad) as a show, makes you realise just how much old media footage there is lurking away in the vaults that will never see the light of day commercially. Kinda sad, isn't it. As to where that was from, it will take the real experts on this group to answer that one. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "colm mcwilliams" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 10:35 PM Subject: FW: top ten prog show > the footage of urban guerrilla and psy power both with bob calvert(looking > fantastic by the way!) where is that from and why aint it available? > > Colm From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Mar 5 23:28:28 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Ed) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:28:28 -0500 Subject: footage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If the people from this list can't get hold of some 70's gigs then no-one can. It looked to me (of the 70's stuff) on the programme from only two or three concerts. One with Silver Machine, another with Urban Guerilla/Orgone Accumulator and the Hawklords one with Psi Power. Seeing Calvert up there was amzing for me as I never saw him properly live in concert. My first gig was '79, so I only saw him guesting, but not as a front man. I'd love to get hold of some of that stuff. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Steve Litchfield Sent: 04 March 2001 12:22 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: footage Yes, now enjoying last night's programme footage on Video CD after a nifty bit of digitising 8-) But I agree with the guy who just posted. This proves that there IS quite a bit of colour footage of HW in the 70s, can't we just find out who at Chrysalis did the research for the program and ask them nicely where all the bits were from? We need to know - and I bet a lot of us would pay through the nose for decent length footage! Steve Litchfield From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Mar 5 18:38:06 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:38:06 -0600 Subject: Original Silver Machine recording/THE DEVIL In-Reply-To: <000201c0a5f1$c15b2050$fed02cc3@thrupoint.net> Message-ID: just saw this: > Anyone know if the original version of Silver Machine released on >> >> Glastonbury Fayre is available anywhere else? The Glastonbury recording of Silver Machine has Bob's original vocal....as the majority of you out there will know....BUT!....how many of you know that IT DOES EXIST ON CD!!!!!! (hahahahaha!!!! MINE! HAHAHAA!!!)... It is on a compilation CD that came free with a UK rock magazine several years ago....I FREAKED OUT when I noticed what I had... I can provide details later should anyone care to track it down.... also..those of you out there collecting all the comps with Hawkwind tracks on them: I hereby issue a curse of POWERFUL DARKENED MAGIC to those who do not play the HW tracks, find the gold, and REPORT BACK TO THE LIST like the arrow from the bow...... Mr.Brock...if you read,,,PLEASE KEEP the diff versions to the regular releases...PLEASE....I'm getting too old, there's just TOO MANY B.S, comps that wouldn't get played, etc. PLEASE NO MORE OF THIS TYPE insanity.... it just removes the pleasure and replaces with unhappiness.... Mike Coleman From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Mar 5 23:39:17 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Ed) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:39:17 -0500 Subject: Dutch Progressive Rock Page Update ! In-Reply-To: <200103052103.QAA09582@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: For us new joiners could you send me the url? Thanks -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: 05 March 2001 16:03 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Dutch Progressive Rock Page Update ! Forwarded for info: Dutch Progressive Rock Page Update ! DPRP has a new column ! Our very own 'Master of the Obscure', Nigel, is bringing you Forgotten Sons. This can be considered the opposite of Counting Out Time. Whereas CoT featured all of those successful bands and albums that became prog rock milestones, Forgotten Sons focuses on those artists, bands and albums that time forgot. Forgotten Sons is prog rock's 'grey area', which is reflected in the controversial design of the column. In the first update of Forgotten Sons we bring you a special on Tim Blake. Added to that, you'll also find an interview with the man himself in DPRP's Specials section. Hope you enjoy the new offering of DPRP and we are looking forward to hearing your feedback and suggestions. Enjoy, Ed From chrisr at TIAC.NET Mon Mar 5 22:44:58 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:44:58 -0500 Subject: BOC: News Message-ID: Thanks John, That was very helpful! Chris "John A. Swartz" wrote: > > > I just a saw a Tyranny & Mutation amd Secret Treaties together in > > black colored deluxe looking package. > O.K., here's the deal on the "Back To Black" package (I have a copy). > This was released by the French label AXEKILLER, and has both Tyranny & > Mutation and Secret Treaties - From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Mar 5 23:32:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:02:27 +1030 Subject: bryan young? Message-ID: are you there man? mb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards iain From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 6 06:31:26 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:01:26 +1030 Subject: 2-3 day festival Message-ID: The lakes district in England sometime during the summer mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: Re: 2-3 day festival Where is this at? -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:25 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: 2-3 day festival one other thing doods if you have a moment & you think the 2-3 day festival with the holiday camp is a great idea send me a little note with you feelings & or ideas & I will post it on a dedicated page @ the Elecetric Tepee - with a little luck the Hawkmasters will have a look and it will be that little extra incentive towards the whole thing going ahead Our minds are extremely powerful - so if we all pool our positive energies together - along with the hard work and dedication that the Hawks ever seem to muster - the whole thing will go off like a charm!! Personally I am willing to offer any vollunteer support that is required to help make this event happen hawkfans vote 1 for HAWKFESTIVAL!!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Tue Mar 6 07:48:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:48:00 +0000 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: I had a response from Chrysalis: "I am happy to try and get the contact details you require but could you be more specific as to the clips you are interested in as there is a great deal of different material included in the programme. Also all the material has been paid for by chrysalis on a licensed basis so if you want to acquire any clips shown in the programme they would be subject to a fee from the respective licensee. I hope to hear from you again soon." At the same time, Kris (HW) contacted me to say that they're in direct touch with Debbie, the main film researcher, and that HW themselves will try and arrange for further distribution. 8-)))) Go, go, go, Kris! The overriding most interesting question is whether the clips shown (esp. Urban G/Orgone/Stacia) are just about all that exists or whether they're taken from a much longer film segment. Steve Litchfield From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Mar 6 07:54:26 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:54:26 -0500 Subject: OFF; Dutch Progressive Rock Page Message-ID: Urk:-( You're quite right, the URL would be handy. http://www.durp.com/ Off for a lie down. Stuart From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Tue Mar 6 08:05:16 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:05:16 -0000 Subject: footage Message-ID: Steve, Very encouraging news. Thank you for enquiring on all our behalves. Surely the Hawkwind camp can get the rights and hopefully release the footage. Maybe as a fan club/passport holders thing? Does anyone out there know where this footage was shot? Especially the Hawklords stuff? cheers colm -----Original Message----- From: Steve Litchfield [mailto:slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK] Sent: 06 March 2001 12:48 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: footage I had a response from Chrysalis: "I am happy to try and get the contact details you require but could you be more specific as to the clips you are interested in as there is a great deal of different material included in the programme. Also all the material has been paid for by chrysalis on a licensed basis so if you want to acquire any clips shown in the programme they would be subject to a fee from the respective licensee. I hope to hear from you again soon." At the same time, Kris (HW) contacted me to say that they're in direct touch with Debbie, the main film researcher, and that HW themselves will try and arrange for further distribution. 8-)))) Go, go, go, Kris! The overriding most interesting question is whether the clips shown (esp. Urban G/Orgone/Stacia) are just about all that exists or whether they're taken from a much longer film segment. Steve Litchfield *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Mar 6 10:05:26 2001 From: Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE (Rainer Wangler) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:05:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Dawn of hawkwind CD ( pre hawkwind) Message-ID: Hello , you like this stuff? I have a old BBC show on tape: Dave Brock and friends Top gear session 1969 Tracks : Diamond ring/when/came home/this morning / sail on/ shake your money maker/ Mean mistreader/ bring it on home now I`m not sure if all are tracks correct ca. 30 min quality are ok Rainer iain ferguson schrieb: > Just got hold of the Dawn of Hawkwind, The Dave Brock pre Hawkwind stuff > and its Brilliant !!!! > It sounds like Dave did a Radio show and went through his history of > music. is this correct ? if so where and when ? does anyone know. > > I love the original mirror of illusion ( accoustic). > Is there anymore Famous Cure stuff out there, the Diamond Ring track was > great, Dave's playing is great on it.? > > I haven't heard most of the stuff before, its great to hear Dave's > history. > > Regards > iain From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Mar 6 11:06:19 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:06:19 +0800 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: Hi I've seen a video clip from years ago of 25 Years On. I had an old Phillips VCR (from before the days of VHS & Beta), on which I recorded the clip off telly. I no longer have the VCR, but may still have the tape (I gave some away & kept some). If anyone knows how & where to get these tapes converted, I'd be glad to pass them on. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Litchfield" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:48 PM Subject: HW: footage > I had a response from Chrysalis: > > "I am happy to try and get the contact details you require but could you > be more specific as to the clips you are interested in as there is a great > deal of different material included in the programme. Also all the > material has been paid for by chrysalis on a licensed basis so if you want > to acquire any clips shown in the programme they would be subject to a fee > from the respective licensee. I hope to hear from you again soon." > > At the same time, Kris (HW) contacted me to say that they're in direct > touch with Debbie, the main film researcher, and that HW themselves will > try and arrange for further distribution. > > 8-)))) Go, go, go, Kris! > > The overriding most interesting question is whether the clips shown (esp. > Urban G/Orgone/Stacia) are just about all that exists or whether they're > taken from a much longer film segment. > > Steve Litchfield > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Mar 6 13:17:36 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:17:36 -0000 Subject: FW: top ten prog show Message-ID: Yes lets have as much footage with Stacia as possible lol ;-) Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" To: Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: Re: FW: top ten prog show > technically - all of EMI - start saving!!!! > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Swann" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 12:35 AM > Subject: Re: FW: top ten prog show > > > > On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:37:02AM +0000, Michael Crook wrote: > > > KHENN BAALOWE!! > > > > > > Well that prog, answered a few questions did'nt it? > > > Yes there is COLOUR footage of Ritual > > > and Yes there was a film to accompany 'Urban Guerilla' > > > This was amazing - seeing Stacia in full flight, Dave in his 'Meliadus' > tshirt and a long haired Bob singing 'Urban Guerilla', 'Orgone Accumulator' > and the Hawklords doing 'PSI Power' > > > THE FOOTAGE IS OUT THERE > > > > This _must_ be gotten hold of, and put out as a vid. > > > > Ok, who do we have to bribe? > > > > Steve > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 6 14:05:50 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:05:50 -0000 Subject: footage Message-ID: RE: footageSpoke to one of our customers today who was at the gig at which the Hawlords stuff was shot in '78 and he reckons that it was an Italian TV crew who filmed the whole concert Now that outs the cat among the pigeons - after all in the '70's there were Italian film crews all over Europe shooting everything in sight, as it were. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: Colm McWilliams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:05 PM Subject: Re: footage Steve, Very encouraging news. Thank you for enquiring on all our behalves. Surely the Hawkwind camp can get the rights and hopefully release the footage. Maybe as a fan club/passport holders thing? Does anyone out there know where this footage was shot? Especially the Hawklords stuff? cheers colm -----Original Message----- From: Steve Litchfield [mailto:slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK] Sent: 06 March 2001 12:48 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: footage I had a response from Chrysalis: "I am happy to try and get the contact details you require but could you be more specific as to the clips you are interested in as there is a great deal of different material included in the programme. Also all the material has been paid for by chrysalis on a licensed basis so if you want to acquire any clips shown in the programme they would be subject to a fee from the respective licensee. I hope to hear from you again soon." At the same time, Kris (HW) contacted me to say that they're in direct touch with Debbie, the main film researcher, and that HW themselves will try and arrange for further distribution. 8-)))) Go, go, go, Kris! The overriding most interesting question is whether the clips shown (esp. Urban G/Orgone/Stacia) are just about all that exists or whether they're taken from a much longer film segment. Steve Litchfield *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Tue Mar 6 14:20:42 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:20:42 +0100 Subject: footage In-Reply-To: <010201c0a673$3c8e9140$430fbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Hi folks Have not seen the footage yet, but I suppose that the HAWKLORDS clip is from the Uxbridge gig (24.11.1978) It is mentioned by Kris Tait in the book THIS IS HAWKWIND DO NOT PANIC. She says: "....on the last night of the tour, at a small University gig, the act was filmed on video, recording it for posterity..." Indeed the last HAWKLORDS gig was at the Uxbridge University. And I am rather sure that the HAWKLORDS LIVE CD is from the same gig Bernhard From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Tue Mar 6 14:39:20 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:39:20 GMT Subject: HW: Dawn of hawkwind CD ( pre hawkwind) Message-ID: Iain wrote: > Just got hold of the Dawn of Hawkwind, The Dave Brock pre Hawkwind stuff >and its Brilliant !!!! Yeah its a great album, I'd like to hear the full 'busking' song from the competition (don't know its name without looking). One thing puzzles me re this album - it is well documented that the Famous Cure had a hit single in Holland called 'Sweet Mary' which , according to Hfan10, reached no5. 'Dawn' would have been the ideal album for it to feature on. Has anyone got a copy of the single or ever heard it? Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Tue Mar 6 14:58:55 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:58:55 GMT Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: Steve Wrote: >The overriding most interesting question is whether the clips shown (esp. >Urban G/Orgone/Stacia) are just about all that exists or whether they're >taken from a much longer film segment. Good luck with this quest Steve! Maybe the BBC (favorite source I reckon) filmed about 'a half hour' (as they did for Silver Machine) so that footage could have been used for TOTP if Urban Geurilla had not been withdrawn. Of course I hope they filmed the entire Gig! Perhaps they might put you on to somone who could uncover that IoW clip with Terry Ollis - that must be part of somthing bigger. I heard the BBC won't do an individual research service, but now that the band themselves are interested... Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Tue Mar 6 15:11:18 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:11:18 GMT Subject: HW footage Message-ID: Bernhard wrote: >Have not seen the footage yet, but I suppose that the HAWKLORDS clip is >from the Uxbridge gig (24.11.1978) >It is mentioned by Kris Tait in the book THIS IS HAWKWIND DO NOT PANIC. I wonder if this is the same film that Dave mentions when he describes (Record Collector Feb'93) a film made by Charisma to accompany the Hawklords album? I don't suppose they'd use the last ever Hawklords gig for such a film would they? Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Mar 6 16:47:15 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:47:15 -0500 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:11:18 GMT, Michael Crook wrote: >I wonder if this is the same film that Dave mentions when he describes >(Record Collector Feb'93) a film made by Charisma to accompany the >Hawklords album? I don't suppose they'd use the last ever Hawklords gig >for such a film would they? You're correct, that wouldn't make sense (you usually make the promo film BEFORE the tour, although given some of the mismanagement situations throughout Hawkwind's career, it wouldn't be surprising). Actually, I would almost expect a "promo" film for the Hawklords album to have *no* Hawkwind/Hawklords footage whatsoever, but rather to be some sort of "modern dance" video along the lines of the sleeve/booklet photographs (I wonder, then, if the booklet photographs actually are stills from said film?). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Tue Mar 6 17:30:11 2001 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:30:11 +1100 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: Doug wrote:- You're correct, that wouldn't make sense (you usually make the promo film BEFORE the tour, although given some of the mismanagement situations throughout Hawkwind's career, it wouldn't be surprising). Actually, I would almost expect a "promo" film for the Hawklords album to have *no* Hawkwind/Hawklords footage whatsoever, but rather to be some sort of "modern dance" video along the lines of the sleeve/booklet photographs (I wonder, then, if the booklet photographs actually are stills from said film?). I vaguely remember that there was some sort of film running in the background for the Hawklords tour and this was B&W, With people in cages etc , just like in the programme. I definitely remember the big silver mirror wheels used for Silver Machine though. "There are no car doors in heaven, when the angels are on the ground" or something like that." regards Marty From swann at CUGC.ORG Tue Mar 6 18:07:31 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:07:31 -0500 Subject: footage In-Reply-To: ; from Colm McWilliams on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:05:16PM -0000 Message-ID: > From: Steve Litchfield [mailto:slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK] > > I had a response from Chrysalis: > > "I am happy to try and get the contact details you require but could you > be more specific as to the clips you are interested in as there is a great > deal of different material included in the programme. Also all the > material has been paid for by chrysalis on a licensed basis so if you want > to acquire any clips shown in the programme they would be subject to a fee > from the respective licensee. I hope to hear from you again soon." > > At the same time, Kris (HW) contacted me to say that they're in direct > touch with Debbie, the main film researcher, and that HW themselves will > try and arrange for further distribution. > > 8-)))) Go, go, go, Kris! Yes! Go, Kris! I remember a time when I would have been ecstatic just to have Space Ritual on CD, since I never thought it would happen. Funny how after you get what once would have satisfied you, you just get greedier: now I want Space Ritual on _DVD_. ;-) > The overriding most interesting question is whether the clips shown (esp. > Urban G/Orgone/Stacia) are just about all that exists or whether they're > taken from a much longer film segment. Like I said, you get greedy. ;-) Steve From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Tue Mar 6 18:30:19 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:30:19 +0000 Subject: Vic Reeves & Bob Mortimer "Silver Machine" In-Reply-To: <5D01E8305096D3119D7D00508B5EBBF404C9B5EB@ntmsg0133.corpmail.telstra.com.a u> Message-ID: Here's a bit of trivia............Did anyone out there see this???? About 3 - 4 years ago on a sunday afternoon.....my daughter tuned into 'The Smash Hits Poll Winners Party' on ITV ( I think). The show was being hosted by Vic Reeves & Bob Mortimer and I gasped in amazement when the show was launched with the duo taking the stage with dancers & stage effects etc with them both singing a full blown version of ....'Silver Machine'!!!!! Not so surpising as I'd previously heard Vic Reeves referring to listening to HW in his earlier days (so he must be a bit of a fan). In fact as Vic & Bob also appeared on the 'Top 10 of Prog Rock' on channel 4....I was also expecting them to voice some comments on HW......... Not to be though. mel From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Tue Mar 6 18:29:38 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:29:38 -0000 Subject: Vic Reeves & Bob Mortimer "Silver Machine" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes .... I have this on video (master) somewhere... Alasdair On 6 Mar 01, at 23:30, Melvyn Vincent wrote: > Here's a bit of trivia............Did anyone out there see this???? > > About 3 - 4 years ago on a sunday afternoon.....my daughter tuned into 'The > Smash Hits Poll Winners Party' on ITV ( I think). > The show was being hosted by Vic Reeves & Bob Mortimer and I gasped in > amazement when the show was launched with the duo taking the stage with > dancers & stage effects etc with them both singing a full blown version of > ....'Silver Machine'!!!!! > Not so surpising as I'd previously heard Vic Reeves referring to listening > to HW in his earlier days (so he must be a bit of a fan). > In fact as Vic & Bob also appeared on the 'Top 10 of Prog Rock' on channel > 4....I was also expecting them to voice some comments on HW......... > Not to be though. -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Mar 6 19:26:12 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:26:12 +0800 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: Hi there The clip is in colour with sound, & appears to have been filmed specifically for video (it may be the clip others are referring to), & also has Automaton as the lead in to it. I seem to recall Calvert sitting on a stool in the clip? William ----- Original Message ----- From: "J D" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 6:19 AM Subject: Re: Re: HW: footage > William, > 'Fraid I can't answer your question but I'd love a copy if you do manage to > get it transferred. > How long is it? > Is it in colour? > Is there sound? > What's being played? > Any idea of venue or date? > So many questions! > Cheers, > Jez > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: William Duffy > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 4:06 PM > Subject: Re: HW: footage > > > > Hi > > > > I've seen a video clip from years ago of 25 Years On. I had an old > Phillips > > VCR (from before the days of VHS & Beta), on which I recorded the clip off > > telly. I no longer have the VCR, but may still have the tape (I gave some > > away & kept some). If anyone knows how & where to get these tapes > converted, > > I'd be glad to pass them on. > > > > William > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve Litchfield" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:48 PM > > Subject: HW: footage > > > > > > > I had a response from Chrysalis: > > > > > > "I am happy to try and get the contact details you require but could you > > > be more specific as to the clips you are interested in as there is a > great > > > deal of different material included in the programme. Also all the > > > material has been paid for by chrysalis on a licensed basis so if you > want > > > to acquire any clips shown in the programme they would be subject to a > fee > > > from the respective licensee. I hope to hear from you again soon." > > > > > > At the same time, Kris (HW) contacted me to say that they're in direct > > > touch with Debbie, the main film researcher, and that HW themselves will > > > try and arrange for further distribution. > > > > > > 8-)))) Go, go, go, Kris! > > > > > > The overriding most interesting question is whether the clips shown > (esp. > > > Urban G/Orgone/Stacia) are just about all that exists or whether they're > > > taken from a much longer film segment. > > > > > > Steve Litchfield > > > > > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 6 21:02:55 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:32:55 +1030 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: Good Stuff!! mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Litchfield To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 11:18 PM Subject: HW: footage > I had a response from Chrysalis: > > "I am happy to try and get the contact details you require but could you > be more specific as to the clips you are interested in as there is a great > deal of different material included in the programme. Also all the > material has been paid for by chrysalis on a licensed basis so if you want > to acquire any clips shown in the programme they would be subject to a fee > from the respective licensee. I hope to hear from you again soon." > > At the same time, Kris (HW) contacted me to say that they're in direct > touch with Debbie, the main film researcher, and that HW themselves will > try and arrange for further distribution. > > 8-)))) Go, go, go, Kris! > > The overriding most interesting question is whether the clips shown (esp. > Urban G/Orgone/Stacia) are just about all that exists or whether they're > taken from a much longer film segment. > > Steve Litchfield > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 6 21:25:02 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:55:02 +1030 Subject: footage Message-ID: RE: footageEliminating the spagetti western movie makers (no offence) should narrow that down a fair bit *>) ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 5:35 AM Subject: Re: footage Spoke to one of our customers today who was at the gig at which the Hawlords stuff was shot in '78 and he reckons that it was an Italian TV crew who filmed the whole concert Now that outs the cat among the pigeons - after all in the '70's there were Italian film crews all over Europe shooting everything in sight, as it were. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: Colm McWilliams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:05 PM Subject: Re: footage Steve, Very encouraging news. Thank you for enquiring on all our behalves. Surely the Hawkwind camp can get the rights and hopefully release the footage. Maybe as a fan club/passport holders thing? Does anyone out there know where this footage was shot? Especially the Hawklords stuff? cheers colm -----Original Message----- From: Steve Litchfield [mailto:slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK] Sent: 06 March 2001 12:48 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: footage I had a response from Chrysalis: "I am happy to try and get the contact details you require but could you be more specific as to the clips you are interested in as there is a great deal of different material included in the programme. Also all the material has been paid for by chrysalis on a licensed basis so if you want to acquire any clips shown in the programme they would be subject to a fee from the respective licensee. I hope to hear from you again soon." At the same time, Kris (HW) contacted me to say that they're in direct touch with Debbie, the main film researcher, and that HW themselves will try and arrange for further distribution. 8-)))) Go, go, go, Kris! The overriding most interesting question is whether the clips shown (esp. Urban G/Orgone/Stacia) are just about all that exists or whether they're taken from a much longer film segment. Steve Litchfield *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. 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URL: From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Mar 7 01:06:36 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:06:36 EST Subject: OFF: N*pster updating.....["the master list"] Message-ID: Napster Will Comply With Judge's Order Will Seek Settlement With Record Companies Reuters LOS ANGELES (March 6) - Napster, the wildly popular song-swap software, said Tuesday it would comply with U.S. District Court Judge Marilyn Hall Patel's injunction, ordering it to remove songs from its directory three days after it is notified by their copyright owners. "Napster will follow the District Court's order. Even before the court entered the order, we began making efforts to comply with what we believed to be the dictates of the Ninth Circuit's ruling," said Hank Barry, chief executive officer of Redwood City, Calif.-based Napster. Barry said Napster would continue to press its case in court and seek a mediated resolution as it works to implement the order. Napster will continue to seek a settlement with the record companies and to prepare its new membership-based service. In his statement, Barry said the Ninth Circuit and District Court rejected the recording industry's argument that Napster was inherently illegal and that the order called for both the recording industry and Napster to share the burden of complying. The world's biggest record labels -- including Vivendi Universal's Universal Music, Sony Music Warner Music, EMI Group Plc and Bertelsmann AG's BMG first sued Napster in December 1999, claiming it was a haven for copyright piracy that would cost them billions of dollars in lost music sales. The labels are required to provide lists of the material they want removed. "As we receive notice from copyright holders as required by the Court, we will take every step within the limits of our system to exclude their copyrighted material from being shared," he said. 17:47 03-06-01 ======= ======= Court Gives Napster 72-Hour Deadline By RON HARRIS .c The Associated Press SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A federal judge Tuesday laid down the law to Napster, saying that once the recording industry comes up with a list of copyright songs it wants removed from the music-swapping service, Napster will have 72 hours to comply. The order effectively gives the recording industry control over the immediate fate of the Internet music service that lets computer users download popular songs for free. Meanwhile, Napster was hit on another legal front Tuesday when the National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences, the producers of the Grammy Awards, filed a copyright infringement suit. Napster is fighting to stay online and retain its popularity while promising to shift over to a subscription-based service that charges listeners and pays royalties to artists. For that, it needs the cooperation of the music labels that sued Napster for copyright infringement. The academy's suit mirrors the ones filed by the recording industry. The academy is seeking to prohibit Napster from allowing its millions of users from downloading and sharing recordings of live performances aired at last month's 43rd annual awards show. The academy said it owns the rights to the works and has applied to copyright the material. Some of the recordings appeared on Napster immediately after the Feb. 21 broadcast. Academy president Michael Greene said the academy and Universal Music Group, the parent company of Eminem's record label Interscope, now are debating whether to commercially release the broadcast of Eminem's duet of ``Stan'' with Elton John now that it is on Napster. ``We remixed that song, and were looking to put it out to the public with some of the proceeds going to the recording academy charities,'' he said. Napster did not immediately return messages seeking comment on the academy's actions. Napster, which has struggled with little success in the last few days to screen out some songs already identified by record labels, faces a contempt of court order if it can't comply. Chief executive officer Hank Barry said Napster will follow the court's order. ``The district court rejected the recording industry's argument that Napster is inherently illegal,'' Barry said in a statement. ``As we receive notice from copyright holders as required by the court, we will take every step within the limits of our system to exclude their copyright material from being shared.'' ``If Napster complies with what this injunction says, it will be to our satisfaction,'' said Howard King, an attorney for heavy metal band Metallica and rapper-producer Dr. Dre in their $10 million lawsuits against Napster. ``It's technologically doable. The question is, is Napster going to go to the necessary steps to do it?'' In her ruling, U.S. District Judge Marilyn Hall Patel asked record labels to provide the titles, artists' names and relevant file names of all songs it wants banned. After that, Napster will have three business days to remove the songs. It will be up to the music industry to prove ownership of the particular songs it wants excluded. The judge acknowledged it might be difficult to identify all variations of a copyright song, since Napster users could use code words or shorthand to identify different recordings. ``This difficulty, however, does not relieve Napster of its duty,'' she wrote. The judge said she would hear any disputes arising from her decision and appoint an independent technical expert if necessary. Hilary Rosen, president of the Recording Industry Association of America, said: ``We intend to provide the notifications prescribed by the court expeditiously, and look forward to the end of Napster's infringing activity.'' The music industry could come up against some snags. Eric Scheirer, an analyst with Cambridge, Mass.-based Forrester Research, said that in many cases record labels do not actually know what songs they own, what versions are copyright and what are properly registered. ``Many of these records are filed away in a cabinet somewhere and haven't been computerized yet,'' he said. Scheirer stressed that Patel's ruling does not mean Napster has to shut down or turn itself off. Instead, he said, Napster's continued survival depends on how quickly or slowly the record labels deliver song lists. ``What it does is give the record labels a great deal of power over exactly what songs are going to show up on Napster, how long they're going to be there, and how usable Napster will be for the vast number of consumers that are on there now,'' Scheirer said. If the labels force Napster to pull the plug completely, he said, ``consumers will flee to all these other alternative services where they won't be able to control them.'' Napster's popularity exploded in 1999 after founder Shawn Fanning released software making it easy for people to locate and trade songs stored as computer files in the MP3 format, which compresses digital recordings without sacrificing quality. The five largest record labels - Sony, Warner, BMG, EMI and Universal - quickly sued, saying Napster could rob them of billions in profits. On the Net: Napster: http://www.napster.com Recording Industry Association of America: http://www.riaa.org Northern California U.S. District Court: http://www.cand.uscourts.gov/, click on Napster rulings Napigator: http://www.napigator.com AP-NY-03-06-01 2316EST ====== Alternatives to Napster Reuters NEW YORK (March 6) - While a federal court judge ordered Napster Tuesday to remove copyrighted songs from its service within three days of receiving notice from record companies, there are a number of online alternatives. Ranging from utopian hacker creations to well-financed commercial efforts, following are some of the best known: -- Scour.com (http://www.scour.com): Like Napster, routes file requests through a central corporate server computer. Formerly one of the largest Napster-like services, it was sued by the recording industry and shut down under bankruptcy protection. The new owner, CenterSpan Communications Corp., plans to launch a new "legal" version of the song exchange by the end of the month. -- iMesh (http://www.iMesh.com): Also routes requests through a central server, and offers access to video and image files. Based in Israel, it offers the ability to complete downloads even if the original owner goes offline while the file is being transferred. -- Aimster (http://www.aimster.com): Piggybacks on America Online's instant messaging service, allowing users to share files with people on their "buddy" list, or with those who have chosen to share with anonymous guests. Routes encrypted file requests through proxy servers, which may provide some degree of legal protection. Allows any type of file -- music, images, data -- to be shared. -- Gnutella (http://gnutella.wego.com): Decentralized network without a central server may be considerably more difficult to shut down via a music industry lawsuit. Volunteer-run open source program can be chaotic, with arcane controls and extremely slow download times. A slew of derivative programs -- Gnotella, Gnewtella, Newtella, Mactella, to name a few -- have emerged in recent months. -- OpenNap (http://opennet.sourceforge.net): Effectively allows individuals to create their own Napster networks. -- Napigator (http://www.napigator.com): Enables searching across different Napster-like servers, including Napster itself. From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Mar 7 06:13:28 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:13:28 -0500 Subject: HW Is It Just Me... Message-ID: Or is "It's Only Love" by Sam Gopal the predecessor of "The Watcher"? Late nights, sore head, but it sounds the same to me. Stuart http://www.the-rocker.co.uk From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Thu Mar 8 10:06:05 2001 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:06:05 +0000 Subject: footage In-Reply-To: <010201c0a673$3c8e9140$430fbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: I've had two items on my Video Wants list for years and years... HW-GermanTV 1972/3 and Hawklords-ItalianTV. Never ever got anywhere with these items, and indeed most people seemed to think they didn't exist. The plot is thickening now though! Dave At 19:05 06/03/01 +0000, you wrote: >Spoke to one of our customers today who was at the gig at which the >Hawlords stuff was shot in '78 and he reckons that it was an Italian TV >crew who filmed the whole concert >Now that outs the cat among the pigeons - after all in the '70's there >were Italian film crews all over Europe shooting everything in sight, as >it were. >Andy Garibaldi. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Colm McWilliams >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:05 PM >>Subject: Re: footage >> >>Steve, >> >>Very encouraging news. Thank you for enquiring on all our behalves. >> >>Surely the Hawkwind camp can get the rights and hopefully release the >>footage. Maybe as a fan club/passport holders thing? >> >>Does anyone out there know where this footage was shot? Especially the >>Hawklords stuff? >> >>cheers >> >>colm >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Steve Litchfield >>[mailto:slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK] >>Sent: 06 March 2001 12:48 >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >>Subject: HW: footage >> >>I had a response from Chrysalis: >> >>"I am happy to try and get the contact details you require but could you >>be more specific as to the clips you are interested in as there is a great >>deal of different material included in the programme. Also all the >>material has been paid for by chrysalis on a licensed basis so if you want >>to acquire any clips shown in the programme they would be subject to a fee >>from the respective licensee. I hope to hear from you again soon." >> >>At the same time, Kris (HW) contacted me to say that they're in direct >>touch with Debbie, the main film researcher, and that HW themselves will >>try and arrange for further distribution. >> >>8-)))) Go, go, go, Kris! >> >>The overriding most interesting question is whether the clips shown (esp. >>Urban G/Orgone/Stacia) are just about all that exists or whether they're >>taken from a much longer film segment. >> >>Steve Litchfield >> >>*********************************************************** >>This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied >>and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in >>error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have >>been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Mar 7 11:13:20 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:13:20 -0000 Subject: HW: Nikwind gig? Message-ID: Hi, I seem to remember some talk of a Nikwind (Nik, Huw, Terry, Thomas, (DikMik)) gig in March. It seemed to get confused with the HW gig at Croydon in March. Anybody know if there are any Nikwind gigs in the pipeline? Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Mar 7 14:11:36 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:11:36 -0000 Subject: HW: Nikwind gig? Message-ID: I think yuo mean the Nik Turner Original Hawkwind Reunion Bnad gig at Crewe on March 22nd at the Limelight which is now not happening but instead Spacehead will play there on the night, starting around 9.00pm - see you there maybe. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: J D To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 4:13 PM Subject: HW: Nikwind gig? Hi, I seem to remember some talk of a Nikwind (Nik, Huw, Terry, Thomas, (DikMik)) gig in March. 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Maybe the BBC (favorite source I reckon) filmed about 'a half hour' (as they did for Silver Machine) so that footage could have been used for TOTP if Urban Geurilla had not been withdrawn. Of course I hope they filmed the entire Gig! Perhaps they might put you on to somone who could uncover that IoW clip with Terry Ollis - that must be part of somthing bigger. I heard the BBC won't do an individual research service, but now that the band themselves are interested... > > Mick > > May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Mar 7 14:51:01 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:51:01 GMT Subject: Vic Reeves & Bob Mortimer "Silver Machine" Message-ID: Yeah I saw this too, it wasn't too bad a version either. I seem to remember the centre section of the song had a sort of brief 'Holst's planet Mars' theme. I half expected it to be released as a single after his success with 'Dizzy'. Going back even further - late eighties (and I swear this is true!) there was a band on Blue Peter called somthing like 'Salad from Atlantis' who did a version of Silver Machine using acoustic guitars and doing the 'whooshes' verbally down the Mic and changing the chorus to Washing Machine (the programme's theme was recycling). Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Mar 7 15:13:57 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:13:57 GMT Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: Andy Garibaldi wrote: > as I keep saying,there is footage of The Space Ritual Tour, approx 30 mins >it is reckoned, in the vaults of EMI if anyone wants to try and check that >one out - good luck (you'll need it) You'll have to enlighten me on this one Andy. Why would they be reluctant to make this footage available? Interestingly in that interview in Record collector that I mentioned, Dave says that EMI probably have most of the band's early leftovers from studio sessions. Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Mar 7 15:43:04 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:43:04 -0000 Subject: HW: Unusual sighting Message-ID: The last thing I expected to see in Fnac in Barcelona was the Night of the Hawks video. And if anybody's looking for a copy of Distant Horizons, they had loads... -- Andy ObCD: Shannon Wright - _****flightsafety_ www.andygilham.com From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Wed Mar 7 16:23:49 2001 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:23:49 +0100 Subject: footage In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010308150225.00d1d440@easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: There's supposed to be footage from Warrior tour somewhere in the archives of Swedish TV...MoU from a gig in Lund (sweden) has been shown... >I've had two items on my Video Wants list for years and years... >HW-GermanTV 1972/3 and Hawklords-ItalianTV. Never ever got anywhere with >these items, and indeed most people seemed to think they didn't exist. The >plot is thickening now though! > >Dave > > > > > > >At 19:05 06/03/01 +0000, you wrote: >>Spoke to one of our customers today who was at the gig at which the >>Hawlords stuff was shot in '78 and he reckons that it was an Italian TV >>crew who filmed the whole concert >>Now that outs the cat among the pigeons - after all in the '70's there >>were Italian film crews all over Europe shooting everything in sight, as >>it were. >>Andy Garibaldi. >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: Colm McWilliams >>>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >>>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:05 PM >>>Subject: Re: footage >>> >>>Steve, >>> >>>Very encouraging news. Thank you for enquiring on all our behalves. >>> >>>Surely the Hawkwind camp can get the rights and hopefully release the >>>footage. Maybe as a fan club/passport holders thing? >>> >>>Does anyone out there know where this footage was shot? Especially the >>>Hawklords stuff? >>> >>>cheers >>> >>>colm >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Steve Litchfield >>>[mailto:slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK] >>>Sent: 06 March 2001 12:48 >>>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >>>Subject: HW: footage >>> >>>I had a response from Chrysalis: >>> >>>"I am happy to try and get the contact details you require but could you >>>be more specific as to the clips you are interested in as there is a great >>>deal of different material included in the programme. Also all the >>>material has been paid for by chrysalis on a licensed basis so if you want >>>to acquire any clips shown in the programme they would be subject to a fee >>>from the respective licensee. I hope to hear from you again soon." >>> >>>At the same time, Kris (HW) contacted me to say that they're in direct >>>touch with Debbie, the main film researcher, and that HW themselves will >>>try and arrange for further distribution. >>> >>>8-)))) Go, go, go, Kris! >>> >>>The overriding most interesting question is whether the clips shown (esp. >>>Urban G/Orgone/Stacia) are just about all that exists or whether they're >>>taken from a much longer film segment. >>> >>>Steve Litchfield >>> >>>*********************************************************** >>>This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied >>>and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in >>>error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have >>>been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From joe.e at TELIA.COM Wed Mar 7 16:57:09 2001 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:57:09 +0100 Subject: footage Message-ID: At 22:23 2001-03-07 +0100, you wrote: >There's supposed to be footage from Warrior tour somewhere in the >archives of Swedish TV...MoU from a gig in Lund (sweden) has been >shown... No, it was the "popgala festival" at Scandinavium, Gothenburg - October(?) 1973. Got exact date for broadcast though, it was shown at Friday July 26th 1974, 21.35. TV2. first two verses of MotU was the only hw contence. Rumour says this footage was deleted when Swedish Television needed more shelf space. .joe From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Mar 7 18:01:39 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:01:39 -0000 Subject: HW: Sonic Attack tour Message-ID: Not quite sure what info you want here - though you had the three colectors series doubles, the Glastonbury thing and the Weird tapes stuff. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael W Blackman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 12:08 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sonic Attack tour No.... it wasn't untill I came accross all you wonderful people here on the BOC/Hawkwind list and the Hawkwind at yahoo's list that I began to seriously build up my collection. Just after the Hawks came to OZ - which I missed ((arrggh)) my collection consisted of LEVITATION HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN GRILL XENON CODEX HAWKWIND NIGHT OF THE HAWKS MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE Can you get me that treasure?? 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I half expected it to be released as a single after >his success with 'Dizzy'. >Going back even further - late eighties (and I swear this is true!) there >was a band on Blue Peter called somthing like 'Salad from Atlantis' who >did a version of Silver Machine using acoustic guitars and doing the >'whooshes' verbally down the Mic and changing the chorus to Washing >Machine (the programme's theme was recycling). > >Mick Yeh....you're right . Unfortunately I never saw it,but I now remember some friends telling me about this rather bizarre rendition of Silver Machine. mel From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Mar 7 18:30:10 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:30:10 -0000 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: Christ - that would take a longer answer than I have time for - let me relate a story a year or so ago, when we at CD Services wanted to release a CD by someone whose tapes were langusishing in the vaults of a record company who shall be nameless (NOT EMI), we were told expressly 'no way' would we be able even to make an offer. We asked if that company would be releasing the CD themselves and they said 'no' so we said well what are you holding onto the recordings for and the reply was something along the lines of 'well, he's got to die one day' and that was in all seriousness and THAT is why there is so much stuff languishing in record compnay vaults and publishers vaults (don't get me started on the publishers). They just don't care about anything that they don't think will sell into five figures or more. Call me Mr Cynical but this is from first hand experience. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Crook" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 8:13 PM Subject: Re: HW: footage > Andy Garibaldi wrote: > > as I keep saying,there is footage of The Space Ritual Tour, approx 30 mins > >it is reckoned, in the vaults of EMI if anyone wants to try and check that > >one out - good luck (you'll need it) > > You'll have to enlighten me on this one Andy. Why would they be reluctant to make this footage available? Interestingly in that interview in Record collector that I mentioned, Dave says that EMI probably have most of the band's early leftovers from studio sessions. > > Mick > > May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Mar 7 18:41:47 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:41:47 -0500 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: I've heard similar stories. On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:30:10 -0000, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >... let me relate a story >a year or so ago, when we at CD Services wanted to release a CD by someone >whose tapes were langusishing in the vaults of a record company who shall >be nameless (NOT EMI), we were told expressly 'no way' would we be able >even to make an offer. We asked if that company would be releasing the CD >themselves and they said 'no' I've been told that basically the same thing happened to Paul Major (noted NYC rare record dealer, whose label has reissued some extremely cool stuff such as a collection of 60's rock from *Cambodia* and a retrospective of the bizarre, but very talented and very gay country singer Peter Grudzien) when he approached MCA (I believe under the Matsushita regime, pre- Seagrams) about reissuing the lone album by upstate New York psych band Morgen (that originally came out, I think, on Probe or Dunhill). As I understand it, MCA basically said, "$10 Grand. Now go away." (for a reissue that would probably sell around 1000 copies). >so we said well what are you holding onto the recordings for and the reply >was something along the lines of 'well, he's got to die one day' and that >was in all seriousness and THAT is why there is so much stuff languishing >in record compnay vaults and publishers vaults (don't get me started on >the publishers). Exactly. If they reissue something by a *living* artist, they have to worry about being tracked down and forced to (gasp!) pay the royalties that are due the artist; they're much less likely to be tracked down by *heirs* of a non-living artist. The ironic thing is, in the previous example, MCA didn't give a rat's ass that a French label had already bootlegged the aforementioned Morgen album (it would cost the corporation more to sic their legal department on an overseas company than any possible settlement from the bottleggers would bring in). >They just don't care about anything that they don't think will sell into >five figures or more. Yes, unfortunately they would consider it a "waste of time". This is also a distinction, however, between reissues vs. archival recordings ... it takes a major label very little effort to duplicate a master tape and lease it to a smaller label for reissue. On the other hand, tracking down stuff in the vaults can be time-consuming, thereby (somewhat) justifying their reluctance except in cases where there are clearly big $ to be made. That's probably why, in the States, EMI Hawkwind recordings have been licensed to Cleopatra, Griffin & One Way, but nothing from the vaults has turned up anywhere. However, some labels are pulling it off these days. Sundazed in the USA have reissued some amazing, obscure, major label stuff like the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band (Reprise) and Skip Spence (Columbia), with both examples including unreleased vault-exploration material. So perhaps there is hope ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Mar 7 18:44:12 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:44:12 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 blah blah blah Message-ID: Dear All (especially SteveL) For those who are interested in the Ch4 prog here's the details: Total run time was 6 mins 30 secs The highlighted bits (other than title) are live 70's footage previously unseen (by me). One of the Dunstable 72 shots was also new to me, Stacia simulating doing a roll-up on stage?! Not all of Dunstable 72 in necessarily from Dunstable 72 (it's just the same venue as parts of other bits of footage shown during the SM 72 video (which some people reckon is an amalgamation of at least 2 different gigs). Top Ten Prog Rock: Channel 4: 3.3.01 Nik in spiky outfit in corridor (Brixton 2000?) Elric onstage silhouette (CofBS video - Shade Gate) Elric onstage close-up Topless Stacia on-stage (red lighting), Brock in background Horned dancer (Acid Daze 87?) Elric with sword raised overhead Audience (Dunstable 72) "Hawkwind" - Masters sticker on cabinet Stacia, Lemmy, Nik, Simon, DikMik onstage (Dunstable 72 SM) Nik interview Dave interview Lemmy (Dunstable 72 SM) Mazda car advert Lemmy, DimMik, Simon onstage (Dunstable 72 SM) Audience (Dunstable 72 SM) Lemmy interview Nik onstage (Dunstable 72 SM) Stacia onstage (red lighting) Dave interview Lemmy interview Lemmy, Dave, Nik, Stacia onstage (red lighting) Nik interview Stacia b/w photo Stacia topless dancing, Dave in background (red lighting) Danny Baker interview Stacia topless dancing, Dave in background (red lighting) Stacia, Bob, onstage (blue lighting) Lemmy, Bob, Dave (Meliadus vest) (red lighting) Nik interview In Search Of Space sleeve Lemmy, Dave on stage (red lighting) Lemmy interview Lemmy, Stacia (Dunstable 72, SM (caption)) Lemmy interview Nik, Stacia, Lemmy (Dunstable 72, SM) Nik interview Bob, Lemmy, King (red lighting) (Urban Guerilla caption) Dave interview B/W 1974 publicity photo Lemmy interview Bob, Dave, Harvey, Martin onstage (Hawklords) (PSI Power) Druids at Stonehenge 84 Dave interview Nik interview Stonehenge video Ken Barlow still Needle Gun (Chronicle video) Beehive Brixton 2000 Hope that helps you Steve when interrogating Channel 4 !!! 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Black Sword video, Needlegun. -- David Blair From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Mar 7 19:27:01 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:27:01 -0000 Subject: HW: footage In-Reply-To: <200103072341.SAA18302@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > That's probably why, in the States, EMI Hawkwind recordings have been > licensed to Cleopatra, Griffin & One Way, but nothing from the vaults has > turned up anywhere. Well, with the exception of the 1999 Party album, to be fair. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Mar 7 20:18:31 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:18:31 EST Subject: OFF: Michael Moorcock Calenders FS!!! Message-ID: Hey, folks. Like Arin, I'm looking to move soon too (and we're vying for the same apt too!) But anyway, I need dough. So now's the time to try this again... (and if anyone could supply me w/the Mike Moorcock listserve, that'd be great). I have 4 1978 Michael Moorcock "Wizardry and Wild Romance" Calenders; they're wrapped in plastic (not factory-sealed), so I don't want to open them, but they would be seem to be in damn-near mint condition. Monthly illustrations of Moorcock themes by Rodney Matthews. Bios of both Moorcock and Matthews on back page. Published by Big O Publishing Ltd. Appx 2ft by 2ft (folded) Asking $50ppd each. please e-mail privately, thanks, Chuck From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 7 22:16:48 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:46:48 +1030 Subject: big thanks goess tooooooooo.......... Message-ID: MIKE COLEMAN USA for turning me on to that 100% grooooovy hawkwind poster it arrived today and im taking it to get framed now - as well as my geeerooovy astoria poster Mb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Thu Mar 8 03:46:22 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:46:22 +0000 Subject: HW: Unusual sighting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 20.43 +0000 7.3.2001, Andy Gilham wrote: >The last thing I expected to see in Fnac in Barcelona was the Night of the >Hawks video. Never having seen the video, I was almost tempted to buy it. Almost :) Cheers, Carl ObCD: Hedningarna, _Hippjokk_, "Bierdna" -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Mar 8 09:26:11 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:26:11 +0000 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Message-ID: Can anyone tell me if the album 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' is worth buying? I'm not 100% sure what's on it, or how much it is. I just know that it was recorded live in 1979 and was released in 2000. Cheers. Layla From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Thu Mar 8 09:40:57 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:40:57 -0000 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Message-ID: get atomhenge instead that has the more of the same concert and its on a double cd Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: 08 March 2001 14:26 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Can anyone tell me if the album 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' is worth buying? I'm not 100% sure what's on it, or how much it is. I just know that it was recorded live in 1979 and was released in 2000. Cheers. Layla *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Mar 8 09:35:21 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:35:21 -0600 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Message-ID: It was recorded in 1976,if you have atomhenge 76,then you have it.Thrilling HW adventures,I think is the u.s. version of it. It is really good too. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 8:26 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Can anyone tell me if the album 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' is worth buying? I'm not 100% sure what's on it, or how much it is. I just know that it was recorded live in 1979 and was released in 2000. Cheers. Layla From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Thu Mar 8 09:48:35 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:48:35 -0000 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Message-ID: its not worth buying thrilling adventures unless you collect everything released with hawkwind on it and your a completist. I have both that and atomhenge and I haven't noticed any difference in sound quality even though people on this mailing list have said there is a difference. Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Lindas [mailto:LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM] Sent: 08 March 2001 14:35 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Thrilling Adventures!! It was recorded in 1976,if you have atomhenge 76,then you have it.Thrilling HW adventures,I think is the u.s. version of it. It is really good too. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 8:26 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Can anyone tell me if the album 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' is worth buying? I'm not 100% sure what's on it, or how much it is. I just know that it was recorded live in 1979 and was released in 2000. Cheers. Layla *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Mar 8 09:42:33 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:42:33 -0600 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Message-ID: It sounds the same to me too, just shorter than ATOMHENGE. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Colm McWilliams [mailto:cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 8:49 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Thrilling Adventures!! its not worth buying thrilling adventures unless you collect everything released with hawkwind on it and your a completist. I have both that and atomhenge and I haven't noticed any difference in sound quality even though people on this mailing list have said there is a difference. Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Lindas [ mailto:LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM ] Sent: 08 March 2001 14:35 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Thrilling Adventures!! It was recorded in 1976,if you have atomhenge 76,then you have it.Thrilling HW adventures,I think is the u.s. version of it. It is really good too. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [ mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK ] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 8:26 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Can anyone tell me if the album 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' is worth buying? I'm not 100% sure what's on it, or how much it is. I just know that it was recorded live in 1979 and was released in 2000. Cheers. Layla *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu Mar 8 09:42:26 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:42:26 +0000 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Message-ID: Layla, It was recorded in 1976 and is a great CD, its a rare gem of a live recording from that date in my mind. Regards iain Layla Thompson wrote: > Can anyone tell me if the album 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' is worth buying? > I'm not 100% sure what's on it, or how much it is. I just know that it was recorded live in 1979 and was released in 2000. > > Cheers. > > Layla From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 8 09:58:23 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 01:28:23 +1030 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Message-ID: Its a great album of live music - and worthy of my purchase I must say 8>) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:56 AM Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! > Can anyone tell me if the album 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' is worth buying? > I'm not 100% sure what's on it, or how much it is. I just know that it was recorded live in 1979 and was released in 2000. > > Cheers. > > Layla From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Thu Mar 8 09:56:36 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:56:36 -0000 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Message-ID: thrilling adventures or atomhenge are worth getting just for the song "time for sale" Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: iain ferguson [mailto:iainferguson at AOL.COM] Sent: 08 March 2001 14:42 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Thrilling Adventures!! Layla, It was recorded in 1976 and is a great CD, its a rare gem of a live recording from that date in my mind. Regards iain Layla Thompson wrote: > Can anyone tell me if the album 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' is worth buying? > I'm not 100% sure what's on it, or how much it is. I just know that it was recorded live in 1979 and was released in 2000. > > Cheers. > > Layla *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. 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In-Reply-To: <3AA79A51.F9FA8D3B@aol.com> Message-ID: get both atomhenge and thrilling adventures,,,,the latter is possibly the last griffin hawkwind CD......also it has unique cover art....very true that musically atomhenge is the complete one..... but who wants a lame incomplete Hawkwind collection??? make dave richer and richer.....takes bucks to maintain horses, farms, and "people's band's".......... m From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Thu Mar 8 10:14:46 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:14:46 +0100 Subject: HW: extra live stuff Message-ID: Hej, I am back on the list now.. If anyone wants more details on our record label releases (Burnt Hippie Recordings), just ask. The Dark Sun CD is now out as you all know. I suggest getting it from Andy at CDS if you are in the UK. Garageland in sweden and Aural Innovations in the US. Anyway, I have some extra CD-Rs and tapes I would like to trade off to people who are interested. Send me an email if you have something to trade for these. First come first serve. Next psychedelic release on Burnt Hippie Recordings will be out the end of next month and it is a split LP (500 only) by the danish band Gas Giant and the norweigen band WE. It is great stuff.. scott burnthippie at hotmail.com Extra CD-rs I have at the moment: Mandragora- Cheltenham 11/98 Growing Seeds- Hamburg, germany 5/12/98 Bedouin- Hamburg, Germany 5/12/98 2cd Mandra gora lightshow society- hamburg 5/13/98 We- Roskilde Festival 7/4/00 Iron Maiden- Roskilde Festival 7/1/00 2cd Nebula- roskilde festival 7/1/00 On trial- geneve 4/30/00 sbd On trial- Stengade 1/15/00 2cd On Trial- den helder 4/23/00 On Trial- Hannover 5/8/00 Motorhead- Vega. Kobenhavn 11/15/00 Extra tapes: Ozrics Tentacles- Boston 10/24/00 (from master tape) 2nd part is on end of Queens tape Queens of the Stone Age- Boston 9/00 65m FM Quarkspace- Tammany Hall, Worcester, MA 7/6/00 (from master tape) MONSTER MAGNET- DETROIT, MI. 7/24/99 44M EX- (each on a 90min high bias tape, variable quality) Hoboken NJ 1990 40m BELGIUM 8/9/92 60M VG+ BBC 5/95 MONTREAL, QUEBEC 2/24/93 40M VG+ HULTSFRED FESTIVAL, SWEDEN 6/99 30M EX VOORUIT, GENT, BELGIUM 5/10/93 78M VG/EX TORONTO, CANADA 11/9/93 65M VG/EX- I?m Stoned, what are you gonna do about it? FRANKFURT, GERMANY 3/28/95 73M VG/Ex- VIENNA, AUSTRIA 1995 35M EX FM Warfield, SF 4/18/92 STONE PONY, ASBURY PARK, NJ 12/30/95 63M VG/EX 2 ABYSS, HOUSTON, TX 8/14/98 17M EX- Embyro- Rock Session and Steig Aus (1973) King Crimson- Berkeley 73/Matching Mole BBC 72 From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 8 10:55:33 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:55:33 -0600 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!!-more blab-er In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6CCC@HERMES> Message-ID: colm said: >I have both that and atomhenge and I haven't noticed any difference in >sound quality even though people on this mailing list have said there is >a difference. if it was me that eluded to that (I did).....I truly apologize if it's not....sometimes the mix of alcohol, fresh collared greens, and lonliness in the 3 am wee hours causes the room to seem to vibrate with a "deep boom", and the excitement factor runs high as the room comes alive.... mc From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Thu Mar 8 11:04:10 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:04:10 -0000 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!!-more blab-er Message-ID: one of the reason i bought thrilling adventures when it first came out was because Dave brock said it would be of better sound quality than atomhenge. I'm sure he actually said that on one of the question/answer sessions that took place on this mailing list. Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: Mike Coleman [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: 08 March 2001 15:56 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Thrilling Adventures!!-more blab-er colm said: >I have both that and atomhenge and I haven't noticed any difference in >sound quality even though people on this mailing list have said there is >a difference. if it was me that eluded to that (I did).....I truly apologize if it's not....sometimes the mix of alcohol, fresh collared greens, and lonliness in the 3 am wee hours causes the room to seem to vibrate with a "deep boom", and the excitement factor runs high as the room comes alive.... mc *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. 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I spent the better part of four days preparing some promo copies of the disc as it exists so far, and I am beat..If you receive a copy wherein track 9 is slightly "hot" remember, final tweaking will take place prior to the commercial release of the cd. Here's what I can tell you about this work so far: Sloterdijk: "Uranium Zone" total running time: 52:21 tracks: 10 list of titles in order: Variation in A major (for two cellos, and a flute) Uranium Zone Seti 79 Iron Lung Unnamed Psychedelic Jam II Anomalies Fate by Date The Dub of Dub Passions Variation on a theme (for two cellos, flute and renaissance percussion) Produced, engineered, & performed by Mike Burro, except "Uranium Zone" (2), co-produced by Jay Adcock and Mike Burro. Synth tracks on track track 2, Jay Adcock. On the live front, there is not alot to report at the moment, however we are working on putting together a show in Pennsylvania with a progressive band called "Phoenix Down". They are doing the booking, and I believe the show would be somewhere within the greater Lehigh Valley region of the state. England is still top priority, and the eventuality of playing a show in Cambridge is still viable, we just have wait and see what can be arranged up there. The midlands are also a target area. On the list of possible european summer stops: Germany, and The Netherlands. Festival season is soon approaching, and so we are seeking shows, both domestic and abroad. Cover art has not yet been produced for the "Uranium Zone" CD, so those of you who receive advance promos, will likely have several different designs. I have already designed the cover, so Jay and I will be working on this together, including a gatefold insert for titles and technical information. I want to thank those of you who have written to me in recent weeks. I have tried to respond to everyone. Your support and anticipation of our new product means a tremendous amount, so I'd like to thank you all for this. The official website it appears is permanently disabled. For those of you who don't know, webtv, my internet service provider, pulled the plug on the three year old site, citing violations of "inappropriate adult content", and "using the site for a commercial nature". I hope to have a new computer within a month, and then I will begin to take steps to rebuild. For now, any new web info will come to you in the form of e-mail announcements, as I have even been disabled from logging into my mp3.com site..www.mp3.com/sloterdijk Best wishes to all, and Peace!!! Mike PS The pieces which indicate cellos, flute etc, were written for those instruments, but since I don't have them at my disposal, and likely could not play the pieces on real strings and woodwinds, here they appear as "synthetic chamber music". www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Mar 8 11:48:12 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:48:12 +0100 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Layla At 14:26 08.03.2001 +0000, you wrote: >Can anyone tell me if the album 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' is worth >buying? >I'm not 100% sure what's on it, or how much it is. I just know that it >was recorded live in 1979 and was released in 2000. BUY IT !!!(if you have not already ATOMHENGE) 'ATOMHENGE' (double CD) and 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' (single CD) are from the same gig (September 1976) But 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' has the full set (without encore) Here is the track listing for 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures': intro / reefer madness / paradox / chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / brainstorm / wind of change / instrumental / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack / kerb crawler Here is the track listing for 'ATOMHENGE': brainstorm / wind of change / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack I am sure you will be very pleased with this CD !! Bernhard From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Mar 8 11:50:30 2001 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:50:30 +0100 Subject: footage In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.20010307224208.107fdefe@m1.171.telia.com> Message-ID: Oh, You mean that horrendous night they played at the same venue as bleedin' Osibisa, Gasolin and...(Shock horror)...Ulf Lundell ? I was quite sure it was Lund but OK I'll back off the case, I very much doubt though that the footage was deleted, I even think there's a law against it here, the TV show, at least, should be available... >At 22:23 2001-03-07 +0100, you wrote: > >There's supposed to be footage from Warrior tour somewhere in the > >archives of Swedish TV...MoU from a gig in Lund (sweden) has been > >shown... > >No, >it was the "popgala festival" at Scandinavium, Gothenburg - October(?) 1973. > >Got exact date for broadcast though, it was shown at Friday July 26th 1974, >21.35. TV2. >first two verses of MotU was the only hw contence. > >Rumour says this footage was deleted when Swedish Television needed more >shelf space. > >.joe ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Thu Mar 8 11:53:35 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:53:35 -0000 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Message-ID: berhard you have the cd's the wrong way round atomhenge has the extended set list not thrilling adventures Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: Bernhard Pospiech [mailto:bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE] Sent: 08 March 2001 16:48 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Thrilling Adventures!! Hi Layla At 14:26 08.03.2001 +0000, you wrote: >Can anyone tell me if the album 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' is worth >buying? >I'm not 100% sure what's on it, or how much it is. I just know that it >was recorded live in 1979 and was released in 2000. BUY IT !!!(if you have not already ATOMHENGE) 'ATOMHENGE' (double CD) and 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' (single CD) are from the same gig (September 1976) But 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures' has the full set (without encore) Here is the track listing for 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures': intro / reefer madness / paradox / chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / brainstorm / wind of change / instrumental / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack / kerb crawler Here is the track listing for 'ATOMHENGE': brainstorm / wind of change / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack I am sure you will be very pleased with this CD !! Bernhard *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Mar 8 12:08:30 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:08:30 +0100 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi At 16:53 08.03.2001 +0000, you wrote: >berhard you have the cd's the wrong way round atomhenge has the >extended set list not thrilling adventures Yes, thanks Colm ( I am getting older) Of course ATOMHENGE has the full set (without encore) Here are the setlists again: Track listing for 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures': brainstorm / wind of change / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack Track listing for 'ATOMHENGE': intro / reefer madness / paradox / chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / brainstorm / wind of change / instrumental / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack / kerb crawler Thanks Bernhard From Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Mar 8 12:52:30 2001 From: Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE (Rainer Wangler) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:52:30 +0100 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Message-ID: oh yes 50years Bernhard Pospiech schrieb: > Hi > > At 16:53 08.03.2001 +0000, you wrote: > > >berhard you have the cd's the wrong way round atomhenge has the >extended > set list not thrilling adventures > > > Yes, thanks Colm ( I am getting older) > > Of course ATOMHENGE has the full set (without encore) > > > Here are the setlists again: > > Track listing for 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures': > > brainstorm / wind of change / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for > sale / back on the streets / sonic attack > > > > Track listing for 'ATOMHENGE': > > intro / reefer madness / paradox / chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / > brainstorm / wind of change / instrumental / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on > mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack / kerb crawler > > > > Thanks > Bernhard From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Mar 8 14:11:01 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:11:01 -0000 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: well said and added - one thing I would add is the episode we had with trying to release the Refugee album (Moraz+Nice rhythm section) from the '70's wjhereby we located the wheareabouts of rhe original master tape of the album (which the label did not have) and we did all the nit about publishers, etc, and to cut a long story short, in the end all we needed was permission from Virgin to let us do it - wasn't a question of money or anything - all Virgin had to do was say 'yes' - did they? did they ****!!! When the revolution comes................ Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Pearson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:41 PM Subject: Re: HW: footage > Yes, unfortunately they would consider it a "waste of time". This is also > a distinction, however, between reissues vs. archival recordings ... it > takes a major label very little effort to duplicate a master tape and lease > it to a smaller label for reissue. On the other hand, tracking down stuff > in the vaults can be time-consuming, thereby (somewhat) justifying their > reluctance except in cases where there are clearly big $ to be made. > That's probably why, in the States, EMI Hawkwind recordings have been > licensed to Cleopatra, Griffin & One Way, but nothing from the vaults has > turned up anywhere. > > However, some labels are pulling it off these days. Sundazed in the USA > have reissued some amazing, obscure, major label stuff like the West Coast > Pop Art Experimental Band (Reprise) and Skip Spence (Columbia), with both > examples including unreleased vault-exploration material. So perhaps there > is hope ... > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Mar 8 15:01:01 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:01:01 -0000 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! In-Reply-To: <200103081708.SAA06479@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: hi bernhard just out of interest what was the encore? and is there any other songs from the original gig not on atomhenge? cheers colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Bernhard Pospiech Sent: 08 March 2001 17:09 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Thrilling Adventures!! Hi At 16:53 08.03.2001 +0000, you wrote: >berhard you have the cd's the wrong way round atomhenge has the >extended set list not thrilling adventures Yes, thanks Colm ( I am getting older) Of course ATOMHENGE has the full set (without encore) Here are the setlists again: Track listing for 'Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures': brainstorm / wind of change / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack Track listing for 'ATOMHENGE': intro / reefer madness / paradox / chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / brainstorm / wind of change / instrumental / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack / kerb crawler Thanks Bernhard From joe.e at TELIA.COM Thu Mar 8 16:08:54 2001 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:08:54 +0100 Subject: footage Message-ID: At 17:50 2001-03-08 +0100, you wrote: >Oh, You mean that horrendous night they played at the same venue as >bleedin' Osibisa, Gasolin and...(Shock horror)...Ulf Lundell ? No, together with Tasavallan Presidentti (Jokka Tolonen), and...(Shock horror)... Pugh Rogerfeldt. Nazareth and Savage Rose was also on the bill, but didn't show up. >I was quite sure it was Lund but OK I'll back off the case, I very >much doubt though that the footage was deleted, I even think there's >a law against it here, the TV show, at least, should be available... you better check if SVT Gothenburg knows that law. you've got exact broadcast time: TV2, 1974-July-26 21:35 .joe >>At 22:23 2001-03-07 +0100, you wrote: >> >There's supposed to be footage from Warrior tour somewhere in the >> >archives of Swedish TV...MoU from a gig in Lund (sweden) has been >> >shown... >> >>No, >>it was the "popgala festival" at Scandinavium, Gothenburg - October(?) 1973. >> >>Got exact date for broadcast though, it was shown at Friday July 26th 1974, >>21.35. TV2. >>first two verses of MotU was the only hw contence. >> >>Rumour says this footage was deleted when Swedish Television needed more >>shelf space. >> >>.joe > >------- >Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ >The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor > From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Mar 8 17:04:35 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:04:35 +0100 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Colm At 20:01 08.03.2001 +0000, you wrote: >just out of interest what was the encore? At most of the gigs it was: magnu master of the universe welcome cheers Bernhard From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Mar 8 17:36:37 2001 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:36:37 +0100 Subject: footage In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.20010308215330.1457841a@m1.171.telia.com> Message-ID: >At 17:50 2001-03-08 +0100, you wrote: > >Oh, You mean that horrendous night they played at the same venue as > >bleedin' Osibisa, Gasolin and...(Shock horror)...Ulf Lundell ? > >No, >together with Tasavallan Presidentti (Jokka Tolonen), and...(Shock >horror)... Pugh Rogerfeldt. >Nazareth and Savage Rose was also on the bill, but didn't show up. > > > >I was quite sure it was Lund but OK I'll back off the case, I very > >much doubt though that the footage was deleted, I even think there's > >a law against it here, the TV show, at least, should be available... > >you better check if SVT Gothenburg knows that law. >you've got exact broadcast time: >TV2, 1974-July-26 21:35 Oh they should, everything that is published in any way should have a copy sent to...(can't remember the name). They hassled me when I released Moor and Simon Says albums and threatened me with takin' it to court (or something of similar effedt) if I didn't send copies to them...yes I was a little late sending copies... ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Mar 8 17:40:53 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:40:53 -0000 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! In-Reply-To: <200103082204.XAA17670@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: thankyou :-) colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Bernhard Pospiech Sent: 08 March 2001 22:05 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Thrilling Adventures!! Hi Colm At 20:01 08.03.2001 +0000, you wrote: >just out of interest what was the encore? At most of the gigs it was: magnu master of the universe welcome cheers Bernhard From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Mar 8 17:44:31 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:44:31 GMT Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: I wrote: >You'll have to enlighten me on this one Andy. Why would they be reluctant to make this footage available? < Thanks Andy and Doug for the interesting insights - What a load heartless bastards eh? Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Mar 8 18:05:01 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:05:01 -0700 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! In-Reply-To: <200103082204.XAA17670@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: 'Magnu' with Paul Rudolph-----now, THAT I'd like to hear. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Bernhard Pospiech Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 3:05 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Thrilling Adventures!! Hi Colm At 20:01 08.03.2001 +0000, you wrote: >just out of interest what was the encore? At most of the gigs it was: magnu master of the universe welcome cheers Bernhard From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Mar 8 19:21:31 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:21:31 -0500 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:05:01 -0700, Kevin Sommers wrote: >'Magnu' with Paul Rudolph-----now, THAT I'd like to hear. That's a great thought! I could imagine him dueling with Simon House during the middle section, trading his funky-slapped bass licks off with the distorted violin leads ... that could be one of the spots (along with "Time For Sale" where his un-Hawkwind style of bass playing would work quite well with Hawkwind). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 8 21:01:35 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:31:35 +1030 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!!-more blab-er Message-ID: Oh no!! Not the peyote?? * * * *((((((8>())))).......... I thought it was brussell sprouts ???? ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ whoooooaaaaaaa ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 2:25 AM Subject: Re: Thrilling Adventures!!-more blab-er > colm said: > > >I have both that and atomhenge and I haven't noticed any difference in > >sound quality even though people on this mailing list have said there is > >a difference. > > > if it was me that eluded to that (I did).....I truly apologize if it's > not....sometimes the mix of alcohol, fresh collared greens, and lonliness > in the 3 am wee hours causes the room to seem to vibrate with a "deep > boom", and the excitement factor runs high as the room comes alive.... > > mc From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 8 21:17:33 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:47:33 +1030 Subject: voters are groooovy Message-ID: Just added todays list of Hawkfestival holiday voters and have plenty of space left to spare so get those keys tapping, if you haven't allready, and lets make it clear exactly how much we want this festval/holiday camp to happen!!!!!! 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URL: From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Fri Mar 9 02:33:52 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:33:52 -0500 Subject: Hawklords Footage and Top 10 Prog Rock Message-ID: Hi, I vaguely remember a rumour that the Hawklords were to be featured on the Old Grey Whistle Test in UK about the time of the album and tour. If they did appear I didn't catch the programme even though I watched it for a few weeks before losing interest cos most of the stuff on it was dire (according to me). I also remember that Annie Nightingale had taken over as presenter from Bob Harris at this time and the emphasis was shifting towards 'new wave' artists. One thing I did catch on the show was the UK TV debut of Tubeway Army (Gary Numan's band). I thought at the time that Numan was very heavily influenced by Bob Calvert and on the show he looked very similar to Calvert in the Hawklord's clip on the Top 10 show. I finally went back and looked at the rest of the show on video a couple of days ago. Most of the rest of the bands I found to be highly embarassing (but it does make me wonder what the average viewer made of Hawkwind). A couple of thoughts struck me though. Most of the other bands came across as typical public school boy types trying to be outrageous (worst of all Genesis, although I'm biased as I have never liked them). Also interesting was the fact that there were no direct contributions from any Floyd members. It must have been a real downer for the show's makers not to get anything back form their number 1 group. Mark On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:26:12 +0800, William Duffy wrote: >Hi there > >The clip is in colour with sound, & appears to have been filmed specifically >for video (it may be the clip others are referring to), & also has Automaton >as the lead in to it. >I seem to recall Calvert sitting on a stool in the clip? > >William > > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Mar 9 03:10:21 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:10:21 +0000 Subject: HW: extra live stuff In-Reply-To: <27839F4FFBF6D21181E20008C7C5640806C002D9@exdkba04.novo.dk> Message-ID: >Next psychedelic release on Burnt Hippie Recordings will be out the end of >next month and it is a split LP (500 only) by the danish band Gas Giant and >the norweigen band WE. It is great stuff.. Both great bands! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Fri Mar 9 03:18:36 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:18:36 +0100 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Kevin At 16:05 08.03.2001 -0700, you wrote: >'Magnu' with Paul Rudolph-----now, THAT I'd like to hear. ...to be found on the following tapes: 18.09.1976, MANCHESTER, PALACE THEATRE, 95/6 intro / reefer madness / paradox / instrumental / back on the streets / chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / brainstorm I / right stuff / brainstorm II / wind of change / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for sale / sonic attack / kerb crawler / magnu / paranoia / master of the universe 02.10.1976, IPSWICH, GAUMONT, 85/6 intro / reefer madness / paradox / chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / brainstorm / wind of change / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack / kerb crawler / jam / magnu / master of the universe / welcome 04.10.1976, LEICESTER, DE MONTFORT HALL, 100/5 intro / reefer madness / paradox / chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / brainstorm / right stuff / wind of change / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack / kerb crawler / magnu / master of the universe / welcome 05.10.1976, LONDON, HAMMERSMITH ODEON, 90/7 reefer madness / paradox / chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / brainstorm / right stuff / wind of change / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack / kerb crawler / magnu / master of the universe / welcome cheers Bernhard From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Fri Mar 9 03:19:53 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:19:53 +0100 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! In-Reply-To: <14b4aU-0GmX44C@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: Hi At 18:52 08.03.2001 +0100, you wrote: >oh yes 50years :-))))) but you are the older one :-)))))) Bernhard From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Fri Mar 9 05:21:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:21:00 +0000 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: [secrecy mode on - sorry] A source has told me that the Top 10 clips *are* from full length shows. 8-)))))))))) [secrecy mode off] Please don't email me about this, by the way, I'll post what I can in the group as time goes on. Steve Litchfield From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Mar 9 06:30:17 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:30:17 -0600 Subject: PINK FAIRIES Message-ID: Does anyone know if any of the PINK FAIRIES played with HAWKWIND at the ROUNDHOUSE 16/2/75? CHEERS STEPHE From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Fri Mar 9 08:44:46 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:44:46 +0100 Subject: HW:Astoria revisited Message-ID: Hej, Can anyone send me the set lists for the Tim Blake and Simon House sets from the 29/12/00 concert. Has anyone seen who is going to release this concert this month? scott ObCD: Black Sun Ensemble- Sky Pilot From Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Mar 9 09:33:16 2001 From: Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE (Rainer Wangler) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:33:16 +0100 Subject: PINK FAIRIES Message-ID: Hi, I`m sure that Lemmy and Nik played with Pink Fairies but it was at 13 july 1975 Roundhouse. I have 85 min of this gig. The gig are also released in parts and called Live at the Roundhouse Tracks city kids / do it / free previous from our seconds / the snake / lucille / waiting for my man + / uncle harry`s + / street urchin +/ bye bye johnny + /going down +/ + this tracks are with lemmy and nik Rainer Stephen Lindas schrieb: > Does anyone know if any of the PINK FAIRIES played with HAWKWIND at the > ROUNDHOUSE 16/2/75? CHEERS STEPHE From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Mar 9 09:37:07 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:37:07 +0000 Subject: PINK FAIRIES Message-ID: I don't know the answer to that, sorry. But, while we're on the subject. Does anyone know of a Pink Faries Web page? I've only ever been able to find one and it's pretty bad. It's got next to nothing on it. And it's never been updated, I do keep checking. The name of that site is; http://www.pinkfairies.fsnet.co.uk Layla. >>> LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM 03/09/01 11:30am >>> Does anyone know if any of the PINK FAIRIES played with HAWKWIND at the ROUNDHOUSE 16/2/75? CHEERS STEPHE From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 9 09:45:44 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:15:44 +1030 Subject: PINK FAIRIES Message-ID: Yiiikes!! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 1:07 AM Subject: Re: PINK FAIRIES > I don't know the answer to that, sorry. > But, while we're on the subject. Does anyone know of a Pink Faries Web page? > I've only ever been able to find one and it's pretty bad. It's got next to nothing on it. > And it's never been updated, I do keep checking. > > The name of that site is; > http://www.pinkfairies.fsnet.co.uk > > > Layla. > > >>> LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM 03/09/01 11:30am >>> > Does anyone know if any of the PINK FAIRIES played with HAWKWIND at the > ROUNDHOUSE 16/2/75? CHEERS STEPHE From Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Mar 9 09:56:52 2001 From: Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE (Rainer Wangler) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:56:52 +0100 Subject: more PINK FAIRIES Message-ID: One week after this fairies gig Motorhead are played in the Roundehouse 20.july 1975. with Larry Wallis and they plyed also waiting for my man. (and silver machine ) Rainer Wangler schrieb: > Hi, > I`m sure that Lemmy and Nik played with Pink Fairies but it was at 13 july > 1975 > Roundhouse. I have 85 min of this gig. > The gig are also released in parts and called Live at the Roundhouse > Tracks city kids / do it / free previous from our seconds / the snake / > lucille > / waiting for my man + / uncle harry`s + / street urchin +/ bye bye johnny + > /going down +/ > + this tracks are with lemmy and nik > Rainer > Stephen Lindas schrieb: > > Does anyone know if any of the PINK FAIRIES played with HAWKWIND at the > > ROUNDHOUSE 16/2/75? CHEERS STEPHE From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 9 10:41:37 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:41:37 -0600 Subject: PINK FAIRIES/ Piggyphobia In-Reply-To: <000901c0a8a7$9f6d0220$2ccd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: >Yiiikes!! SAY BOY!! don't you know flyin' piggies are people too, just wear dark shades.... But seriously..... Larry is at work on his new album...... where is FEE...she hates me??,,,,,you see...(fee come back, it was an accident) guess she needs to get workin on that site...... mc From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Mar 9 10:42:25 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:42:25 -0000 Subject: PINK FAIRIES In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not precisely Pink Fairies, but there's a lot of related Deviants stuff, and some good links, at this Mick Farren page: http://www.thanatosoft.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm And a good page about Larry Wallis, including a discography, is at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Diner/2674/wallis_larry_a.htm -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Layla Thompson > Sent: 09 March 2001 14:37 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: PINK FAIRIES > > > I don't know the answer to that, sorry. > But, while we're on the subject. Does anyone know of a Pink > Faries Web page? > I've only ever been able to find one and it's pretty bad. It's > got next to nothing on it. > And it's never been updated, I do keep checking. > > The name of that site is; > http://www.pinkfairies.fsnet.co.uk > > > Layla. > > >>> LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM 03/09/01 11:30am >>> > Does anyone know if any of the PINK FAIRIES played with HAWKWIND at the > ROUNDHOUSE 16/2/75? CHEERS STEPHE > > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Mar 9 10:42:35 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:42:35 +0000 Subject: PINK FAIRIES Message-ID: huh? Why "Yiiikes!!"? Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/09/01 02:45pm >>> Yiiikes!! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 1:07 AM Subject: Re: PINK FAIRIES > I don't know the answer to that, sorry. > But, while we're on the subject. Does anyone know of a Pink Faries Web page? > I've only ever been able to find one and it's pretty bad. It's got next to nothing on it. > And it's never been updated, I do keep checking. > > The name of that site is; > http://www.pinkfairies.fsnet.co.uk > > > Layla. > > >>> LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM 03/09/01 11:30am >>> > Does anyone know if any of the PINK FAIRIES played with HAWKWIND at the > ROUNDHOUSE 16/2/75? CHEERS STEPHE From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Mar 9 10:45:20 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:45:20 -0000 Subject: PINK FAIRIES In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And here's a page in Russian! http://www.progressor.net/pink_fairies.shtml You might need to set the encoding to Cyrillic to display it properly... -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Layla Thompson > Sent: 09 March 2001 14:37 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: PINK FAIRIES > > > I don't know the answer to that, sorry. > But, while we're on the subject. Does anyone know of a Pink > Faries Web page? > I've only ever been able to find one and it's pretty bad. It's > got next to nothing on it. > And it's never been updated, I do keep checking. > > The name of that site is; > http://www.pinkfairies.fsnet.co.uk > > > Layla. > > >>> LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM 03/09/01 11:30am >>> > Does anyone know if any of the PINK FAIRIES played with HAWKWIND at the > ROUNDHOUSE 16/2/75? CHEERS STEPHE > > From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Mar 9 10:40:11 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:40:11 -0600 Subject: PINK FAIRIES Message-ID: HERE COMES THAT SNAKE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 9:43 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: PINK FAIRIES huh? Why "Yiiikes!!"? Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/09/01 02:45pm >>> Yiiikes!! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 1:07 AM Subject: Re: PINK FAIRIES > I don't know the answer to that, sorry. > But, while we're on the subject. Does anyone know of a Pink Faries Web page? > I've only ever been able to find one and it's pretty bad. It's got next to nothing on it. > And it's never been updated, I do keep checking. > > The name of that site is; > http://www.pinkfairies.fsnet.co.uk > > > Layla. > > >>> LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM 03/09/01 11:30am >>> > Does anyone know if any of the PINK FAIRIES played with HAWKWIND at the > ROUNDHOUSE 16/2/75? CHEERS STEPHE From pat at THE-MILLS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Mar 9 11:51:17 2001 From: pat at THE-MILLS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Patrick Bloomfield) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:51:17 +0000 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: Is that the same Steve Litchfield that runs the Psion web site http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/index.html. I've only just joined the Hawkwind list but have followed the band since about '82. Been using Psions for about four years and visited your site many times. Wow, small world ;-) Pat Bloomfield ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Litchfield To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:21:00 +0000 (GMT+00:00) Subject: HW: footage > [secrecy mode on - sorry] > A source has told me that the Top 10 clips *are* from full length shows. > > 8-)))))))))) > [secrecy mode off] > > Please don't email me about this, by the way, I'll post what I can in the > group as time goes on. > > Steve Litchfield _______________________________________________________________________ FSmail - Get your free web-based email from Freeserve: www.fsmail.net From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Mar 9 14:31:43 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:31:43 -0000 Subject: HW: Total Rock Message-ID: Hey! Dave is doing a live interview at 8.00pm tomorrow (Saturday) night on Total Rock. 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Techno heavyweights the Orb encompass U.S. clubs by Christina Fuoco British techno kingpin Alex Paterson--who links with various guest artists to perform as the Orb--is crossing the Atlantic for a series of club shows in support of his group's fifth release "Cydonia" (MCA). The CD is a concept album centered around Cyndonia, known to conspiracy theorists as the home of ancient Mars' largest city, according to a press release. The Orb first found success with the single "Little Fluffy Clouds," which was later used in automobile ads. The tour wraps up at the resurrected Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival in Indio, Calif. April 12 - Boynton Beach, FL - Orbit 13 - Tampa, FL - Masquerade 14 - Atlanta, GA - Masquerade 17 - New York, NY - Irving Plaza 18 - Washington, DC - 9:30 Club 19 - Boston, MA - Avalon Ballroom 21 - Detroit, MI - St. Andrew's Hall 22 - Toronto, ONT - The Guvernment 23 - Chicago, IL - The Metro 24 - Lawrence, KS - Granada 25 - Denver, CO - Ogden Theatre 27 - San Francisco, CA - Maritime Hall 28 - Indio, CA - Indio Polo Field Chuck, Are you doing the Boynton Beach show?? I will not be able to make the Florida shows :( I will be at Phil & Friends at the Sunrise Musical Theater!! Have a Great weekend!! Darrin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Mar 9 18:51:18 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:51:18 -0000 Subject: Hawklords Footage and Top 10 Prog Rock Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Von Bargen To: Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 7:33 AM Subject: Hawklords Footage and Top 10 Prog Rock > Hi, > > I vaguely remember a rumour that the Hawklords were to be featured on the > Old Grey Whistle Test in UK about the time of the album and tour. If they > did appear I didn't catch the programme even though I watched it for a few Y'know - it's a wierd thing - but way back whenever, I remember watching The Old Grey Whistle Test (very, very quietly 'cos my folks were asleep immediately above and there was some very strange music I didn't want them to hear me listening to!) and right at the beginning of the programme it was announced that they were going to have Hawkwind on the show. This was wonderful to me because I had never had a chance to see the band play and I was fascinated to see what they were like. So I watched the entire programme and there was absolutely no sign nor mention of anything Hawkwind at all of any kind whatsoever. So by the end of the show I was utterly fed up and just anxious to go to bed and had pretty much stopped paying attention and then I think - just as the final credits rolled up - they played a video clip. Sadly my memory is fairly hazy on this point but I'm fairly sure it was just the Silver Machine clip because I can remember feeling exceedingly cheated that that's all it was! Exactly *why* they were playing Silver Machine I'm not sure - later rational tells me that it was possibly one of the re-issues of that single which would make it probably 1978. But if anyone can add to this I'd be glad to hear about it. Yrs reminiscently jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Fri Mar 9 20:11:45 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:11:45 +0000 Subject: Hawklords Footage and Top 10 Prog Rock In-Reply-To: <00ff01c0a8f3$ea2e5c40$7b25883e@jds> Message-ID: >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark Von Bargen >To: >Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 7:33 AM >Subject: Hawklords Footage and Top 10 Prog Rock > > >> Hi, >> >> I vaguely remember a rumour that the Hawklords were to be featured >on the >> Old Grey Whistle Test in UK about the time of the album and tour. >If they >> did appear I didn't catch the programme even though I watched it >for a few > >Y'know - it's a wierd thing - but way back whenever, I remember >watching The Old Grey Whistle Test (very, very quietly 'cos my folks >were asleep immediately above and there was some very strange music >I didn't want them to hear me listening to!) and right at the >beginning of the programme it was announced that they were going to >have Hawkwind on the show. This was wonderful to me because I >had never had a chance to see the band play and I was fascinated to >see what they were like. So I watched the entire programme and >there was absolutely no sign nor mention of anything Hawkwind at all >of any kind whatsoever. So by the end of the show I was utterly >fed up and just anxious to go to bed and had pretty much stopped >paying attention and then I think - just as the final credits rolled >up - they played a video clip. Sadly my memory is fairly hazy on >this point but I'm fairly sure it was just the Silver Machine clip >because I can remember feeling exceedingly cheated that that's all >it was! Exactly *why* they were playing Silver Machine I'm not >sure - later rational tells me that it was possibly one of the >re-issues of that single which would make it probably 1978. But >if anyone can add to this I'd be glad to hear about it. > >Yrs reminiscently >jill >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Jill Strobridge >----------------------------------------------------------------- Talking of feeling cheated! I remember about 12 years ago reading in the sunday papers TV listings under the BSB Channel (British Satellite Broadcasting - before it became BSkyB!). You may remember that you needed a square shaped satellite dish or "squarial" as it was called at the time, in order to receive the broadcast. Well.....there at around 11pm the following evening ( I think ).........'In Concert' - Hawkwind live on stage from a concert in 1973! Bloody hell.....I thought........Find me someone....anyone.....linked up to BSB! Well....if my memory serves me correct...the following day....BSB was gobbled up by Rupert Murdochs Sky TV and overnight became BSkyB. Consequently I think the coming weeks BSB listings were turned on their head....literally. I never did find anyone linked to a BSB Squarial or if HW in Concert 1973 was ever screened.......! mel From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 9 21:43:48 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:13:48 +1030 Subject: Hawkfestival ((Big Thanks)) Message-ID: Thanks again foe the emails received regarding the 2-3day festival Uploading the new stuff now and eagerly await more!!! Michael Blackman http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Electric_Tepee.htm The Electric Tepee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Mar 10 04:15:29 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:15:29 -0800 Subject: OFF: CD sale Message-ID: Hi Folks... Sorry to be so spammy today...but I figure some might want first crack at some bargains before I post to other lists and such. I guess there might not be a Strange Daze or Quarkstock to hawk these 'traders' at this year, so why not here? Plus I need some money to pay for my upcoming dental reconstruction. A sign of aging. Grakkl (FAA) henderson.120 at osu.edu CDs for sale used, good condition unless otherwise noted Domestic (US) shipping - $2 for first, $1 for each additional (cut by half w/o jewel boxes) Overseas - write to arrange shipping/payment Agitation Free (Berlin) - River of Return (sealed) $11 Alchemysts (UK) - Over and Out (Woronzow-style psych band) $7 Amon Duul II (Munich) - Flawless (Compilation of old and new stuff, alternative versions) $9 Asha Vida (Detroit) - Nature's Clumsy Hand (Experimental post-rockers) $6 Blue Oyster Cult (NY) - Heaven Forbid $5 The Brain Surgeons (NY) - Eponymous (Al, et al.) $6 The Buck Pets (Dallas) - To The Quick (one of the 'better' grunge bands) $4 Robert Calvert (SA/UK) - Freq (Cleopatra release) $7 Cathedral (UK) - The Ethereal Mirror (Stoner doom) $5 Cathedral (IK) - Cosmic Requiem (Stoner doom) $5 Deep Purple (UK) - Purpendicular (sealed) $5, (used) $3 Dream Theater (NY) - Falling Into Infinity (prog metal) $5 Ebeling Hughes (Detroit) - Transfigured Night (Obscured by Clouds-ish sound experiments) $6 Edith (Italy) - A Space Between Ever and Never (neo-prog group with uninspired drummer) $7 Eloy (Essen) - The Best of Eloy (classic space-prog band a la Floyd) $7 Flotilla (LA) - Flotilla (modern poppy electronic post-rock) $6 fIREHOSE (LA) - Flyin' the Flannel (progressive punk-jazz-rock, remnants of Minutemen) $4 Fish (Scotland) - Sunsets on Empire (inspired album with Porcupine Tree's Steve Wilson) $6 Fuxa (Detroit) - Very Well Organized (organ/farfisa/electronic post-rock) $7 Galloping Coroners (Hungary) - Jumping out the World/Inst-inct & Teach Death a Lesson, 2-on-1 (peculiar aggressive psychedelia) $6 Sergius Golowin (Germany) - Lord Krishna von Goloka (Cosmic Jokers family, sim. Gilles Zeitschiff) $7 Groundhogs (Cymru) - The Best of (sealed) (psych-blues a la Man) $8 Hawkwind (UK) - Independent Days, Vols. 1&2 (Griffin) (sealed) $9 Hawkwind (UK) - Distant Horizons $8 It Bites (Cumbria, UK) - Once Around the World CDEP (proggy/poppy hard rock, Hillage producing) $5 Jadis (UK) - More Than Meets the Eye (neo-prog) $7 Komeda (Umea, Sweden) - The Genius of (fun, Can-like sugar-pop-post-rock) $5 Krokodil (Germany/Switzerland) - Krokodil (psych-blues band like Man, Groundhogs) $7 Magnog (Seattle) - Magnog (mind-numbing drone band) $7 Marillion (UK) - Clutching at Straws (non-remaster) a neo-prog classic, if such a thing exists) $6 Marillion (UK) - B-Sides Themselves (a collection of oddities) $7 Marillion (UK) - The Thieving Magpie-Live (Disc 1 only) (the non-Misplaced Childhood tracks) $4 Mercury Rev (Buffalo) - See you on the Other Side (Space Rock? Nah, not with trumpets) $6 Moebius/Plank/Thompson (GR/Texas) - Ludwig's Law (electronics and poetic strangeness) $5 Mother Love Bone (Seattle) - Mother Love Bone (2CD) (pre-Pearl Jam) $7 Motorhead (UK) - Orgasmatron (one of Lemmy's best) (Sinclair release) $6 Bob Mould (Minneapolis) - Workbook (uncommonly laid-back/introspective work from ex-Husker Du) $5 National Steam (Columbus) - National Steam (Quarkspace spinoff, hypnotic/electronic) $6 Nebula (LA) - Let It Burn (six-track version) (stoner spinoff from Fu Manchu) $5 Orange Goblin (UK) - Time Travelling Blues (great stoner stuff) $6 Orange Goblin (UK) - The Big Black (newest release from stoner kings) $6 Ozric Tentacles (UK) - The Hidden Step (newest release from psych kings) $7 Queensryche (Seattle) - Operation: Mindcrime (prog metal rock-opera style gem) $4 Salaryman (Illinois) - Salaryman (hypnotic, electronic, percussion-heavy post-rock) $6 Sky Cries Mary (Seattle) - A Return to the Inner Experience (first space-rock-style release from SCM) $6 Sky Cries Mary (Seattle) - This Timeless Turning (every bit as good as 'Return') $6 Sky Cries Mary (Seattle) - Seeds EP enhanced (four great songs and video their last) $6 Sons of Selina (UK) - Nour D'oui (punky-psychsters on Delerium) $8 Spiritualized (UK) - Live at the Albert Hall (2CD promo, no booklet) (dream-space bliss) $9 777 (System 7.3) (UK) - Fire & Water (2CD) (half techno, half space-ambient) $8 Tortoise (Chicago) - TNT (organ-humming, percussion-busy post-rock) $6 Roger Taylor (UK) - Happiness? (classic rock from Queen drummer/vocalist/guitarist) $8 TNR (Italy) - The Chessboard (prog rock inspired by VDGG/Hammill) $6 Treponem Pal (France) - Aggravation (aggressive underground French band) $4 Nik Turner (UK/US) - Past or Future? (Live with Pressurehed et al.) $6 UFO (UK) - Walk on Water (reunion release from Schenker/Mogg/Way) $5 Uzgin Uver (Hungary) - Uzgin Uver (13 tracks, CDB017) (Cool progressive psych-folk) $9 Various Artists - Rise 13-Magick Rock, Vol. 1 (Stoner Rock compilation) $5 Various Artists - Where the Pyramid Meets the Eye (Rocky Erickson tribute) $5 Verve (UK) - A Storm in Heaven (very spacey shoegazer album unlike newer stuff) $7 Velvet Underground (NY) - The Best of $5 Windy & Carl (Detroit) - Drawing of Sound (sweet drone music) $6 Xhol Caravan (Wiesbaden) - Electrip (Germanofon boot version) (wild early sax-heavy krautrock) $6 Zendik Orgaztra (Texas/Florida) - Dance of the Cozmic Warriorz (crazy psychedelia from alternative commune 1999 reissue of 1988 recording) $5 From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Mar 10 02:47:25 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:47:25 EST Subject: OFF: N*pster: as the saga nears its conclusion...or something.... Message-ID: Napster To Get Copyright Songs List SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) - The recording industry said Friday it planned to send a list of 135,000 copyright songs to Napster Inc. later in the day, giving the file-swapping company until Wednesday to block their free exchange on the online service. The Recording Industry Association of America planned to send the list to Napster electronically some time tonight, said spokeswoman Amy Weiss. Napster then would have three business days to block the songs, according to an injunction published Tuesday earlier this week by U.S. District Judge Marilyn Hall Patel. From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Mar 10 10:20:16 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:20:16 -0500 Subject: HW: Total Rock Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS Only a few hours to go until Dave Brock is on Total Rock - Tune In via Mission Control Updates www.hawkwind.org.uk >UPDATES ++MESSAGE ENDS From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Mar 10 10:49:58 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:49:58 -0500 Subject: HW: Brock Total Rock Message-ID: From: XXX Subject: HW: Total Rock Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:31:43 -0000 Hey! Dave is doing a live interview at 8.00pm tomorrow (Saturday) night on Total Rock. E-mail them with record requests....... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CAN WE GET A LINK TO THE SITE PLEASE???? Thanx! Darrin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Mar 10 11:20:07 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:20:07 -0000 Subject: OFF: ORB Tour Dates Message-ID: Someone asked recently if Orb's latest is worth buying. Having played it twice, I can heartily recommend it. Gone is the muddy production of Orblivion, this one sounds like the true successor to Orbus Terrarum. Perhaps not as groundbreaking as that one, but with plenty of surprises along the way. Excellent use of vocals on several tracks, spacey, ambient, even rocky in places. And some memorable tunes to boot. Anyone know what the 'Special Edition' sticker on the case refers to? Captain Bl at ck. From novadrive at HOME.COM Sat Mar 10 11:36:30 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:36:30 -0700 Subject: Brock Total Rock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://www.totalrock.com/ -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Darrin McKeehen Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:50 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Brock Total Rock From: XXX Subject: HW: Total Rock Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:31:43 -0000 Hey! Dave is doing a live interview at 8.00pm tomorrow (Saturday) night on Total Rock. E-mail them with record requests....... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CAN WE GET A LINK TO THE SITE PLEASE???? Thanx! Darrin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Mar 10 12:08:10 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:08:10 -0000 Subject: Brock Total Rock Message-ID: already stuck my request in. 7 BY 7, hope they play it, it never gets played ever. lol Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Sommers" To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Brock Total Rock > http://www.totalrock.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Darrin McKeehen > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:50 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: Brock Total Rock > > > From: XXX > Subject: HW: Total Rock > Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:31:43 -0000 > > Hey! > > Dave is doing a live interview at 8.00pm tomorrow (Saturday) night on Total > Rock. > E-mail them with record requests....... > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > CAN WE GET A LINK TO THE SITE PLEASE???? > > Thanx! > > Darrin > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sat Mar 10 12:38:09 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:38:09 -0000 Subject: HW: Total Rock Message-ID: Total Rock is at http://www.totalrock.com Studio requests studio at TotalRock.com Bcc hammer at TotalRock.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Mar 10 13:54:01 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:54:01 -0000 Subject: HW: pity they can't do this....... Message-ID: Name any band - take a lead from this lot............... Andy Garibaldi ------------------------------------------------------- Pearl Jam Break Their Own Record With Seven CDs Entering the Billboard Top 200 Chart Simultaneously; First Time in History Any Artist has Had Seven Debuts in the Same Week A Total of 72 Double Live CDs From the Europe and US Bootleg Series On Wednesday, March 7, Pearl Jam made history again with the simultaneous debut of seven CDs on the Billboard Top 200 chart. The seven CDs are among 23 double live bootleg CDs from leg one of the band's 2000 US tour which were released on February 27. Today's chart entries break the band's previous record set last Fall when five of their 25 European bootlegs debuted in the same week on the Billboard Top 200 chart. On March 27, Pearl Jam will release 24 CDs from leg two of their US tour: bringing the grand total of Pearl Jam bootleg double CDs to 72 (with one triple CD) from their 2000 European and US tours. In addition to being available via retail outlets, Pearl Jam bootlegs are also available through the band's website at pearljam.com. The following seven CDs made their debut on the Billboard Top 200 chart: Jones Beach, NY - August 25 - entered the chart at #159 Boston, MA - August 29 - entered the chart at #163 Indianapolis, IN - August 18 - entered the chart at #174 Pittsburgh, PA - September 5 - entered the chart at #176 Philadelphia, PA - September 1 - entered the chart at #179 Tampa, FL - August 12 - entered the chart at #181 Memphis, TN - August 15 - entered the chart at #191 The seven titles above sold more than 50,000 copies combined. The European bootlegs have sold one million copies combined worldwide to date. "Once again, Pearl Jam has changed the way we view the marketplace. Pearl Jam consistently push boundaries and write their own rules. The best part is, their fans reap the benefits of these unprecedented choices. We are proud of the continued success of all the Pearl Jam bootlegs," says Epic Records President Polly Anthony. The idea to release the bootlegs was initially conceived by the band as a way to provide fans who were purchasing high priced, low quality unofficial bootlegs with a better quality, less expensive alternative. From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Sat Mar 10 13:44:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:44:00 +0000 Subject: HW: Only 50 fans? Message-ID: Just got my ticket for the Aldershot gig - no.49... Kind of shocked that only 50 tickets have been sold so far (though there is 3 weeks to go, I guess)- I wonder what the minimum number is for the gig not to be cancelled? Come on, guys and gals, get you tickets quick! Steve Litchfield PS> To Patrick: Yes, it's the same Steve 8-) See http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ 8-)))) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Mar 10 13:45:08 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:45:08 -0600 Subject: HW: pity they can't do this.......KILL!!! KILL!!!! In-Reply-To: <031b01c0a993$794dc380$889abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: THIS is malodorous to my nostrils.....bring me the head of Eddie Vedder.... DESTROY ALL PEARL JAMS..... ps-I got my flannel in seattle! ...dude! From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Mar 10 13:46:40 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:46:40 -0500 Subject: HW: Updates Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS FOR INFO ON THE TOTALROCK INTERVIEW WITH DAVE BROCK VISIT MISSION CONTROL NOW !!!! www.hawkwind.org.uk (Updates) Access to TotalRock and Voting for songs on the page... ++MESSAGE ENDS From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Sat Mar 10 13:54:59 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:54:59 -0500 Subject: HW: Total Rock Message-ID: Well I hope someone will be recording! I'm hoping someone can maybe set me up with a tape of the Astoria broadcast as well as the interview from tonight... John Majka jmajka2 at home.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 10 14:11:09 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:41:09 +1030 Subject: HW: Only 50 fans? Message-ID: If only I could do that :( Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Litchfield To: Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 5:14 AM Subject: HW: Only 50 fans? > Just got my ticket for the Aldershot gig - no.49... Kind of shocked that > only 50 tickets have been sold so far (though there is 3 weeks to go, I > guess)- I wonder what the minimum number is for the gig not to be > cancelled? Come on, guys and gals, get you tickets quick! > > Steve Litchfield > PS> To Patrick: Yes, it's the same Steve 8-) See > http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ 8-)))) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 10 14:13:21 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:43:21 +1030 Subject: HW: Total Rock Message-ID: Yes! Can someone out there record the interview? I will send you some money to mail it to me! Just wanna hear what the captain has to say! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 5:24 AM Subject: Re: HW: Total Rock Well I hope someone will be recording! I'm hoping someone can maybe set me up with a tape of the Astoria broadcast as well as the interview from tonight... John Majka jmajka2 at home.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Mar 10 14:35:03 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:35:03 -0000 Subject: HW: pity they can't do this.......KILL!!! KILL!!!! Message-ID: not Pearl Jam - the IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Coleman" To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 6:45 PM Subject: Re: HW: pity they can't do this.......KILL!!! KILL!!!! > THIS is malodorous to my nostrils.....bring me the head of Eddie Vedder.... > > > DESTROY ALL PEARL JAMS..... > > ps-I got my flannel in seattle! ...dude! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 10 14:20:23 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:50:23 +1030 Subject: HW: pity they can't do this.......KILL!!! KILL!!!! Message-ID: Hey peace dude! Mellow..... Your nostril hairs may be singed - But they will grow back.... Bigger and better than before!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~- ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 5:15 AM Subject: Re: HW: pity they can't do this.......KILL!!! KILL!!!! > THIS is malodorous to my nostrils.....bring me the head of Eddie Vedder.... > > > DESTROY ALL PEARL JAMS..... > > ps-I got my flannel in seattle! ...dude! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 10 14:21:15 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:51:15 +1030 Subject: HW: Updates Message-ID: I can get on there but it cuts off more than its on - Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Rx To: Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 5:16 AM Subject: Re: HW: Updates > ++STAR WARRIORS > > FOR INFO ON THE TOTALROCK INTERVIEW WITH DAVE BROCK > VISIT MISSION CONTROL NOW !!!! > www.hawkwind.org.uk (Updates) > > Access to TotalRock and Voting for songs on the page... > > ++MESSAGE ENDS > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Mar 10 14:50:00 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:50:00 -0600 Subject: HW:PJ..KILL AND KILL AGAIN!!!! In-Reply-To: <034301c0a999$369070a0$889abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: >not Pearl Jam - the IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!! Pearl Jams management (is it Eddie?) must be disemboweled, and the innards strewn about for miles in an orgy of insane hackery, ...spread all over roof-tops, backyards, public streets, etc..... The inner sleeve to IRON MAIDEN's "piece of mind" LP comes to the frontal lobe....wasn't that the title to a record I had when I was younger.......??? comte pierre d'auvergne + doughnut From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 10 15:02:53 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:02:53 -0000 Subject: HW: Total Rock Message-ID: Dammit. The line dropped and I lost most of the interview after Dave was talking about Canterbury. Did anyone catch this? Is there anything I can offer you (generally) in trade? Please!! thanx jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael W Blackman To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 7:13 PM Subject: Re: HW: Total Rock Yes! Can someone out there record the interview? I will send you some money to mail it to me! Just wanna hear what the captain has to say! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 5:24 AM Subject: Re: HW: Total Rock Well I hope someone will be recording! I'm hoping someone can maybe set me up with a tape of the Astoria broadcast as well as the interview from tonight... John Majka jmajka2 at home.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sat Mar 10 15:08:36 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:08:36 -0000 Subject: HW:PJ..KILL AND KILL AGAIN!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Pearl Jams management (is it Eddie?) must be disemboweled, and the innards > strewn about for miles in an orgy of insane hackery, ...spread all over > roof-tops, backyards, public streets, etc..... Did Eddie Vedder mug your granny or something? Whatever. Welcome to my killfile. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 10 15:08:56 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:08:56 -0000 Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival Message-ID: One thing I did catch in that radio show is the fact that the Canterbury Festival site is SEVEN MILES from the nearest railway station and there is no taxi service. (or was that just no taxi service on Sundays - please tell me it's just Sundays that comment refers to). Flippin 'eck! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sat Mar 10 15:15:44 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:15:44 -0000 Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival In-Reply-To: <006701c0a99d$f1302dc0$c149893e@jds> Message-ID: So Jill, are you saying you won't even walk seven miles for a Hawkwind show? :) -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Jill Strobridge > Sent: 10 March 2001 20:09 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival > > > One thing I did catch in that radio show is the fact that the > Canterbury Festival site is SEVEN MILES from the nearest railway > station and there is no taxi service. (or was that just no taxi > service on Sundays - please tell me it's just Sundays that comment > refers to). > Flippin 'eck! > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Mar 10 15:23:54 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:23:54 -0000 Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival Message-ID: Yeah I caught that too Oh goody No Transport. It'll be good to see Arthur Brown Doing some Cpt Lockheed songs though if he agrees ;-) Gremlins here we come. Rich W - Apparently Totalrocks email was down so bang went the requests lol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:08 PM Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival > One thing I did catch in that radio show is the fact that the > Canterbury Festival site is SEVEN MILES from the nearest railway > station and there is no taxi service. (or was that just no taxi > service on Sundays - please tell me it's just Sundays that comment > refers to). > Flippin 'eck! > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Mar 10 15:13:55 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:13:55 -0500 Subject: HW:PJ..KILL AND KILL AGAIN!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Mike Coleman wrote: => >not Pearl Jam - the IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!! => => Pearl Jams management (is it Eddie?) must be disemboweled, and the innards => strewn about for miles in an orgy of insane hackery, ...spread all over => roof-tops, backyards, public streets, etc..... Is this a comment on the fact that Pearl Jam Kollectors will be "forced" to buy 72(?) double CDs---a scenario you don't want visited on the Hawkwind Kollective---or something far less intelligible? Personally, I love the idea of being able to get well-recorded full live concerts of bands I like, but I guess I'm funny that way. :-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Mar 10 15:21:26 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:21:26 -0600 Subject: HW: Pearly delusion confusion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Did Eddie Vedder mug your granny or something? Whatever. Welcome to my killfile. -- Andy www.andygilham.com my Granny is my Mommy.....this is a god like Helen of Troy.......the name is Helen......I was adopted and this is likey the only creature on this vomitous orb where humans grow like bacteria that mike C will EVER LOVE... I would gladly kill 10 men in so many seconds should the need present itself....(in her DIVINE defense) is your invitation an indoctrination to a brotherhood, or a dark and musky place of competition where computer viruses may be downloaded upon me??? geek stinkbreath From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Mar 10 15:28:26 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:28:26 -0000 Subject: HW:PJ..KILL AND KILL AGAIN!!!! Message-ID: But You'd buy 72 Live Cds. Tell me you wouldn't? It might take a year but you would buy them. I mean we must be well on the way ;-) Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mather" To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:13 PM Subject: Re: HW:PJ..KILL AND KILL AGAIN!!!! > On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Mike Coleman wrote: > > => >not Pearl Jam - the IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!! > => > => Pearl Jams management (is it Eddie?) must be disemboweled, and the innards > => strewn about for miles in an orgy of insane hackery, ...spread all over > => roof-tops, backyards, public streets, etc..... > > Is this a comment on the fact that Pearl Jam Kollectors will be "forced" > to buy 72(?) double CDs---a scenario you don't want visited on the > Hawkwind Kollective---or something far less intelligible? > > Personally, I love the idea of being able to get well-recorded full live > concerts of bands I like, but I guess I'm funny that way. :-) > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From rdc at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Mar 10 15:24:37 2001 From: rdc at NTLWORLD.COM (Richard Crossley) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:24:37 -0000 Subject: If you missed Dave Brock on Total Rock Radio... Message-ID: For a very brief time only. http://explode.mine.nu Richard From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Mar 10 15:32:17 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:32:17 -0000 Subject: OFF: Japanese HMV site Message-ID: Those lovely people at HMV Japan have translated the ordering part of their website into English. 130ish Hawkwind Items. Must be something interesting there. They've got some nice sbitmap remasters of all the early gong stuff in repro sleeves as well. Checkemout at hmv.co.jp Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Pospiech" To: Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 8:19 AM Subject: Re: Thrilling Adventures!! > Hi > > At 18:52 08.03.2001 +0100, you wrote: > >oh yes 50years > > > :-))))) but you are the older one :-)))))) > > > Bernhard > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Mar 10 15:26:19 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:26:19 -0500 Subject: HW: pity they can't do this....... In-Reply-To: <031b01c0a993$794dc380$889abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: => Name any band - take a lead from this lot............... => Andy Garibaldi => ------------------------------------------------------- => => Pearl Jam Break Their Own Record With Seven CDs Entering the Billboard Top => 200 Chart Simultaneously; First Time in History Any Artist has Had Seven => Debuts in the Same Week => => A Total of 72 Double Live CDs From the Europe and US Bootleg Series It really is a pity they don't do this. I've heard some of the Euro releases. They're great soundboards of entire gigs. The Hamburg Sporthall is my favourite: a tasty Better Man / Baba O'Riley / Yellow Ledbetter finale! These recordings really do take away any incentive to buy a bootleg. They are the complete gig, from the soundboard (and the mix is really good in the ones I've heard), priced to move (<$12 that I've seen locally, kind of 2-for-1 price), and supporting the band (instead of a bootlegger). Why pay $30-$50 for a dodgy aud?? And whilst Hawkwind are heeding that lead, might I also suggest they drop in on Phil Lesh. He can tell them about the series of soundboards from his Autumn 2000 tour he released gratis to the masses, in high-quality SHN format, for free download and trading. At the very least, they could put up a note on Mission Control saying they officially allow taping at gigs, and then we'd have good quality shows circulating (using mics on stands instead of hidden in coats) instead of the aforementioned dodgy auds... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Mar 10 15:31:53 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:31:53 -0600 Subject: HW:PJ..explanation of zero In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Is this a comment on the fact that Pearl Jam Kollectors will be "forced" >to buy 72(?) double CDs---a scenario you don't want visited on the >Hawkwind Kollective---or something far less intelligible? it means I am a loser misfit with dark-circles under my eyes and aching legs from drinking alone in the small hours..... if Hawkwind would like to open up official bootlegs in mass quantity....I will remain docile and allow this one to pass.... RoKK KiDD From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 10 16:10:27 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:10:27 -0000 Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:15 PM Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury Festival > So Jill, are you saying you won't even walk seven miles for a Hawkwind show? > :) Hah. Even for Hawkwind that's some hike! I've just recalculated my rucsack load down to a tenth the size it was previously and added some hiking boots! As an alternative though it's tempting to simply raid the piggy bank, find the nearest big town that *does* run a taxi service and pay the extra mileage. I have my age to think of after all ................ 8-) Maybe if other folk are travelling around the same time we could arrange to meet up somewhere and share the cost of a taxi out??? Just thinking ahead. decriptly yrs jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Jill Strobridge > > Sent: 10 March 2001 20:09 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival > > > > > > One thing I did catch in that radio show is the fact that the > > Canterbury Festival site is SEVEN MILES from the nearest railway > > station and there is no taxi service. (or was that just no taxi > > service on Sundays - please tell me it's just Sundays that comment > > refers to). > > Flippin 'eck! > > jill > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jill Strobridge > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 10 16:33:12 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:33:12 EST Subject: HW:PJ..KILL AND KILL AGAIN!!!! Message-ID: In a message dated 3/10/01 2:48:43 PM US Eastern Standard Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > Pearl Jams management (is it Eddie?) must be disemboweled, and the innards > strewn about for miles in an orgy of insane hackery, ...spread all over > roof-tops, backyards, public streets, etc..... > > The inner sleeve to IRON MAIDEN's "piece of mind" LP comes to the frontal > lobe....wasn't that the title to a record I had when I was younger.......??? > > > I likes the way he thinks!! Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rdc at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Mar 10 17:00:33 2001 From: rdc at NTLWORLD.COM (Richard Crossley) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:00:33 -0000 Subject: [Hawkwind] If you missed Dave Brock on Total Rock Radio... In-Reply-To: <006f01c0a9a8$35239c60$c71028d5@starfield> Message-ID: Sorry... didn't expect 30 simultaneous connections. Try again, but not all at the same time please, especially whoever is using GetRight. Alternativly a search on napster for "Dave Brock Interview Total Rock" may well bring up some results. Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Captain Bl at ck [mailto:starfield at supanet.com] > Sent: 10 March 2001 21:22 > To: Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Hawkwind] If you missed Dave Brock on Total Rock Radio... > > > Tried it, nope, page not found. > > Anybody got this? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Crossley > To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List ; > Hawkwind at egroups. > com > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:24 PM > Subject: [Hawkwind] If you missed Dave Brock on Total Rock Radio... > > > > For a very brief time only. > > > > http://explode.mine.nu > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > Post message: Hawkwind at onelist.com > > Subscribe: Hawkwind-subscribe at onelist.com > > Unsubscribe: Hawkwind-unsubscribe at onelist.com > > List owner: Hawkwind-owner at onelist.com > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://www.onelist.com/community/Hawkwind > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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Message-ID: Kinda late notice, but, . . . I see that American Movie Classics is showing 'Godzilla, King of Monsters' tonight at 10:00 PM EST (check yer local listings). " . . . There goes Tokyo, Go, Go Godzilla!" Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 10 17:37:08 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:37:08 -0500 Subject: HW: Greasy Trucker's Party Message-ID: Does anyone know the set list from the Greasy Trucker's gig? Cheers, COLIN From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Mar 10 18:27:37 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:27:37 EST Subject: HW: pity they can't do this.......KILL!!! KILL!!!! yam Message-ID: I'm with Mike, Kill pearl yam, not the idea bob In a message dated 3/10/01 11:16:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: > not Pearl Jam - the IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!! > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Coleman" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 6:45 PM > Subject: Re: HW: pity they can't do this.......KILL!!! KILL!!!! From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Mar 10 18:58:31 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:58:31 EST Subject: HW: pity they can't do this....... Message-ID: This subject came up on the John Cale list a few years ago, Cale being notoriously super anti-taping. In the world of tapers, it's usually hardcore fans that often buy all the official releases anyway (am I wrong), in the world of bootleggers, they aren't interested in the band as much as making money from them illegally. The irony as mentioned below is that when bands with any kind of following that would make bootlegging profitable, who don't let good quality shows taped, the bootleggers end up releasing whatever is available, sometimes crappy audience tapes. The band is then represented in stores etc by substandard releases. If taping was allowed, only good quality shows would make the rounds and with the abundance of cdr's (I would think) less and less boots would be purchased, more or less traded by fans. who knows. In the end it's the band's decision as they own the material being taped. But once again mentioned below, no matter how hard they try, taping will happen anyway. bob In a message dated 3/10/01 12:29:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: > At the very least, they could put up a note on Mission Control saying > they officially allow taping at gigs, and then we'd have good quality > shows circulating (using mics on stands instead of hidden in coats) > instead of the aforementioned dodgy auds... > > Cheers, > > Paul. Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Mar 10 19:30:54 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:30:54 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Tonight! Message-ID: Hello. Just a reminder to all interested that, after a week's hiatus, SDNC will be back on the air tonight, featuring plenty of "fresh" material attained on my vacation... 5-7pm PST, 88.3fm KUCR (909-787-KUCR)...might be on till 8 tonight, though that's not confirmed. Just thought I'd try this "reminder", as it seemed to help get a couple more listeners last time... thanks, Chuck "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck From Pb-Metal at HOME.COM Sat Mar 10 21:17:27 2001 From: Pb-Metal at HOME.COM (Pb Metal) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:17:27 -0500 Subject: Got BOC? Message-ID: I'd sandpaper a bobcat's ass while buck nekkid in a phone booth for some BOC !! Anyone able to help me out? I'm new to the list, but have loads to trade (non-BOC, unfortunately!). Your list gets mine. ftp or snails. Thanks loads! -Pb From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sat Mar 10 23:07:27 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:07:27 -0600 Subject: If you missed Dave Brock on Total Rock Radio... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Richard Crossley wrote: :Subject: If you missed Dave Brock on Total Rock Radio... : :For a very brief time only. : :http://explode.mine.nu : :Richard Thanks Richard. I managed to snarf a copy a few hours ago from you. Good conversion. Thanks! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Mar 11 04:24:08 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:54:08 +1030 Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival Message-ID: everyone pitch in for limos and go in style ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 6:45 AM Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury Festival > So Jill, are you saying you won't even walk seven miles for a Hawkwind show? > :) > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Jill Strobridge > > Sent: 10 March 2001 20:09 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival > > > > > > One thing I did catch in that radio show is the fact that the > > Canterbury Festival site is SEVEN MILES from the nearest railway > > station and there is no taxi service. (or was that just no taxi > > service on Sundays - please tell me it's just Sundays that comment > > refers to). > > Flippin 'eck! > > jill > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jill Strobridge > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Mar 11 08:12:23 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:12:23 +0000 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <200102191526.PAA07782@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, M Holmes wrote: > iain ferguson writes: > > > can you re-title your subject line please. I'm downloading stuff that has > > nought to do with Hawkwind help. or Hawkwind. > > It's not until the final move of our cunning game of Obscure Hawkwind > Links that all will be revealed. I'm sure Jon Jarret will be happy to > administer the coup de grace... Well, I only dabble in the Great Game myself, since finding the sort of player you can learn from rather than just being defeated flat out isn't so easy. But, since the last move appears to have gone down for the time being, may I invite the readership to continue the following example game? A: Notting Hill Gate (bonus points for lunch at Mountain Grill) B: Ladbroke Grove (under the bypass natch) A: Hammersmith (deduct points for dozing on the way) B: Arrival in Olympia (which of course involves One Change) A: (Space is Their) Plaistow B: Void's^H^H^H^H^HMile End A: Queensway of Deliria B: Turnham Green (again) A: Mornington Crescent It's only a short one of course, and very much a beginner's effort; I imagine seasoned players such as the ones on this list can do much better... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Mar 11 08:26:17 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:26:17 -0000 Subject: HW: Gig advertising Message-ID: Hi, Someone was surprised to be purchasing ticket no. 49 for the Aldershot gig in 3 weeks time. Agreed that this is concerning and have the following thoughts .... Just what publicity has there been for these gigs? Admittedly I go nowhere near the music rags to find out if the gigs have been mentioned in them, but it wouldn't surprise to find out that they haven't. Brian Tawn usually puts out a news letter mentioning impending gigs, but there's been nothing from him as yet. Basically if I was not a list member I also would have been totally oblivious to any Hawks gigs coming up. I sincerely hope that HW don't think that mentioning gigs to BOC-L or putting them on Mission Control is anywhere near sufficient in publicising gigs. We are, after all, just a tiny minority of those who would attend HW gigs and half of us live abroad anyway. It's great that HW are participating in using the new technology & media available but it only reaches a small proportion of interested parties. The x-thousand people who attended Brixton (and to a lesser extend Astoria) are not all automatic attendees of these other minor gigs (even if they are aware of them) as these were one-off (OK, two-off) gigs with a dip into the past. Hope I'm wrong on all accounts! I'll be at Nottingham, anyway, and no, I've not bought my ticket yet. Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Mar 11 08:44:55 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:44:55 +0000 Subject: HW: MONSTER MAGNET/mission control In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > At 01.29 -0600 22.2.2001, Mike Coleman wrote: > >he (dave w) hit super-rock level in my room just the other day with his > >lyric from a song on a comp CD from "THE CROW", called "Big God".... > > That's also on a CD-single from the _Powertrip_ album, though I > forget which one. Quite decent track, I thought. It's on the CD1 of `Space Lord', along with a cover of `Kick Out the Jams'. Probably not the Brothers and Sisters version, `Space Lord' itself not withstanding... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Mar 11 09:10:46 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:10:46 +0000 Subject: HW: Codex - phew In-Reply-To: <007501c09d28$26222b00$cb17883e@jezd> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, J D wrote: > 3. Is the Theta Orionis bootleg of a gig or a mish-mash of rare tracks? It's a bit of both; it has some bits of a '93 (I think) Nottingham Rock City gig (`QS&C', `LSD/Camera/LSD' as I recall), and some '95 BBC stuff, I think also some other live stuff though I don't know what, and then `Terra Mystica', the vinyl-only track from _Business Trip_, and *claims* to contain `Space Sex', the similar one from _Alien4_ and `Gimme Shelter' from IItBotFTBD, but *actually* has the 2.54 length allocated to `Space Sex' filled with that much of `Gimme Shelter' repeated. > 4. Strange Daze 97 - is this a compilation of bands, if so, what's the HW tracks? Yes, it's a compilation, the HW tracks are `Kauai', `Assassins of Allah' and `Brainstorm/Hawkwind in your Area/Brainstorm'. There's also Nik playing with Farflung which gets you an `Opa Loka' as well as two Farflung/Anubian Lights tracks (well, one Farflung and thirty seconds of synth claiming to be `Soul Herder'). > 5. Is Burn Me Up from Elf & Hawk the same as the Brockspace song? Not quite. The _Spacebrock_ version has an extra atmosphere layer of synth and a sample of a female voice singing "Find the right way!" overlaid after about twenty-four bars. This synth-wash and sample is then tracked separately as `The Right Way', which is one of the lamer pieces of space-filling on the album. Everything else I think I saw covered by those better-qualified to answer than me... > As for the Codex itself, an absolutely magnificent document > incorporating humungus amounts of time & effort. Had Mike & Jill not > done this, then HW fans would be even more in the dark and totally > confused about releases than we already are! Keep up the good work. Amen to that... Yours, Jon ObCD: Hawkwind - _Love in Space_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Mar 11 09:15:05 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:15:05 +0000 Subject: HW: Codex - phew In-Reply-To: <200102230053.TAA18742@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > There's a few more that haven't made it to CD (I mentioned the Charisma-era > single edits in a recent message, but the unavailability of that era's > albums is UTTERLY CRIMINAL, imho). Gods yes. At the very least someone in the US should get holf of the Griffin rights, it can't be too hard to make money on these if you're careful now Griffin have done the bulk of the work. Isn't it EMI who hold the rights for the UK stuff since Virgin, though? I wish I knew whether that meant that repackaged remasters like the first six were likely to emerge, or that we'll just never see them (especially since I doubt EMI could pitch wholesale prices as low as Cowboy Inc^W^WVoiceprint will so it may not be worth their while to do it all since distribution will be uphill work). Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Mar 11 09:20:41 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:20:41 +0000 Subject: BOC: Me 262, Prince of turbojets In-Reply-To: <3A963534.29939.98EC0C@localhost> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: > I believe you are correct. I could swear I read an account of a pilot > actually breaking the sound barrier in a P47--a propeller plane no > less, during a power dive... You're not wrong, Theo, or at least, only partially. The highest speed ever attained by a piston-engined plane is 504 mph attained by a P-47 in a dive. That is transonic at least, but I don't think anyone ever put a Jug through the sound barrier. Of course, what with turboprop engines the propellor record in general is a lot higher. After all, the Russian Bear can reach not far short of the speed of sound, though swept wings or not I wouldn't like to be in one in a transonic dive :-/ Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Mar 11 09:22:14 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:22:14 +0000 Subject: HW: Codex Live Chronicles mystery In-Reply-To: <200102231946.OAA22128@mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, K Henderson wrote: > Doug P. conjectured... > > >This is pure conjecture, but the original CotBS track is credited > >to "Brock/Davey", and it sounds to me like part 1 is the Brock composition > >(he recites the narration on 'Live Chronicles') and part 2 is the Davey > >composition (he sings it on 'Live Chronicles'). Does Alan do part 2 with > >Bedouin these days? > > Yeah, I think he did it at Hawkestra, didn't he? It was late into the night > already. :) I seem to remember this. But I seem to remember a good few things in the tracklist that night that no-one else does, and don't remember things that they do and so on. Nonetheless, I'm *pretty* sure he did play `Elric Pt 2'. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Mar 11 09:40:57 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:40:57 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1415820846 buy it now for $110.00!!!!! bloody hell!!! and another one...... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1415576118 Hawkwind QuarkStrangeness&charm RARE Album CD Item #1415576118 buy it now for $110.00!!!!! why can't the hawkwind camp re-license these and put them out again? i heard a while back that EBS was planning to re-release them. Is this still going to happen? colm From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Mar 11 10:32:21 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:32:21 +0000 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Jon Jarrett writes >A: Notting Hill Gate (bonus points for lunch at Mountain Grill) >B: Ladbroke Grove (under the bypass natch) >A: Hammersmith (deduct points for dozing on the way) >B: Arrival in Olympia (which of course involves One Change) >A: (Space is Their) Plaistow >B: Void's^H^H^H^H^HMile End >A: Queensway of Deliria >B: Turnham Green (again) >A: Mornington Crescent Not that it's got anything to do with anything, but did you know there are actually 40 abandoned stations on the Tube? Like King William Street, which was closed over 100 years ago, which still has posters on its wall but is only accessible down a manhole in the basement of Regis House, with breathing gear coz the air's gone bad? Well, I thought it was interesting. :) http://www.starfury.demon.co.uk/uground/ BTW Who outbid me at three in the morning on the Space Ritual Tapes? grrr! anyone here use the tag "7x7" ? -- Jon From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Mar 11 10:51:48 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:51:48 +0000 Subject: HW: Codex - phew In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Jon Jarrett writes >On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, J D wrote: > >> 3. Is the Theta Orionis bootleg of a gig or a mish-mash of rare tracks? > > It's a bit of both; it has some bits of a '93 (I think) Nottingham >Rock City gig (`QS&C', `LSD/Camera/LSD' as I recall), and some '95 BBC >stuff, I think also some other live stuff though I don't know what, and >then `Terra Mystica', the vinyl-only track from _Business Trip_, and >*claims* to contain `Space Sex', the similar one from _Alien4_ and `Gimme >Shelter' from IItBotFTBD, but *actually* has the 2.54 length allocated to >`Space Sex' filled with that much of `Gimme Shelter' repeated. I've just received a copy, this is the track info I got with it - Night of the hawk (Nottingham Rock City 18-05-90) Back in the box (Nottingham Rock City 18-05-90) Right to decide (BBC session 1995) Quark, strangeness & charm (Cambridge Junction 11-11-93) LSD/The camera that could lie (Cambridge Junction 11-11-93) Assassins of Allah (BBC session 1995) Death trap/Wastelands/The dream goes on (BBC session 1995) Terror Mystica (vinyl only release) Gimme shelter (with Samantha Fox) On the cover it says Space Sex Gimme shelter (one more time, but this one is cut in pieces, very strange) The 2 Nottingham tracks have the wrong date (should be 25/01/90) and they have been lifted (Very badly) from the live Legends video. -- David Blair From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Mar 11 12:10:38 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:40:38 +1030 Subject: Hawkwind gigs Message-ID: There may be a big Hawkwind gig in Germany - no dates or confirmations check out the tour page at the Mission Control How about an Easter party in Australia? Warm them bones up before the summers gone.. Summers almost gone.... Queensland is a great place for being warm! Kris? Are Dave & yourself feeling better now? Get regular Chiropractic check ups!! and you will be surprised how quickly you fight off those nasty little bugs etc Find one that is certified with the ACTIVATOR technique - no bone jarring etc... It is worth every cent!!! Peace & Light -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sun Mar 11 14:11:19 2001 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:11:19 +0100 Subject: HW:House ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Whatever happened to the SImon House interview promised on hawkwind.com ? ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sun Mar 11 14:57:47 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:57:47 -0000 Subject: HW: House ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've chased Simon but with no luck as yet... I think he was taken aback by the number of questions - we ran the call for questions in the run-up to the reunion gig, and the site was extremely busy then. Be patient - it took about 18 months to get the Liquid Len interview up after all!! -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Kenneth Magnusson > Sent: 11 March 2001 19:11 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW:House ? > > > Whatever happened to the SImon House interview promised on hawkwind.com ? > ------- > Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ > The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor > > From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sun Mar 11 15:57:41 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:57:41 -0500 Subject: SLOTERDIJK in streaming video Message-ID: Live SLOTERDIJK can now be viewed on the internet courtesy of the METALZONE RADIO NETWORK at: http://www.metalzonerecords.com/ Once you arrive at the metalzone mainframe, choose "Zombie Radio". This will take you the station where the video has been uploaded. The footage comes from August 2000, when Sloterdijk supported Harvey Bainbridge during "The Traveling Outerspace Spectacular"; visuals by The Solar-Fire Lightshow. PS If you have trouble contact metalzone at fuse.net Peace, Mike www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Mar 11 16:56:40 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:56:40 -0000 Subject: HW: Canterbury tales Message-ID: Things to do on a Sunday afternoon: 1. Find out where Hernhill near Faversham is. Actually it sounds amazingly civilized........ "Local Attractions Hernhill - The Local Village ... with a delightful 14th century village pub (overlooking the green) serving a wide range of good food, to suit all tastes, and for variety there are two more pubs within 1.5 miles, both offering good food. " This sounds like fun after all 8-))) jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From hw at CY-B.ORG Sun Mar 11 17:07:21 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:07:21 -0500 Subject: HW: IRC Test Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS Anyone online at the moment with IRC access please go to Dalnet channel #Hawkwind.org.uk We are running a short test for a forthcoming online chat ++MESSAGE ENDS From hw at CY-B.ORG Sun Mar 11 17:45:54 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:45:54 -0500 Subject: HW: Test Complete Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS h?WK?????t Test on IRC Dalnet Channel Now Complete ++MESSAGE ENDS From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Mar 11 18:23:38 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:23:38 -0000 Subject: HW: pity they can't do this.......KILL!!! KILL!!!! yam Message-ID: ever wish you hadn't started this - I posted this to illustrate what a great idea the PJ's have got by doing this and I only hope to god more bands start to do this - after 40 years of the rock era, finally a band has realised what the fans want - halle-friggin-lujah!!! .........and at the risk of being summarily put in the stocks, I do own several PJ CD's (and like them!) Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Lennon" To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 11:27 PM Subject: Re: HW: pity they can't do this.......KILL!!! KILL!!!! yam > I'm with Mike, Kill pearl yam, not the idea > bob > > In a message dated 3/10/01 11:16:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, > andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: > > > not Pearl Jam - the IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Andy G. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Coleman" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 6:45 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: pity they can't do this.......KILL!!! KILL!!!! From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Mar 11 18:41:28 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:41:28 -0000 Subject: HW: Codex - phew Message-ID: I don't know what the situation is now but two or three years ago, Doug, as EBS, had the name of Hawkwind copyrighted - this means that no-one anywhere can repress anything without his permission, although I wondered at the time where Dave came into this, but that was a while back, but presumably still applies. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 2:15 PM Subject: Re: HW: Codex - phew > On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > > > There's a few more that haven't made it to CD (I mentioned the Charisma-era > > single edits in a recent message, but the unavailability of that era's > > albums is UTTERLY CRIMINAL, imho). > > Gods yes. At the very least someone in the US should get holf of > the Griffin rights, it can't be too hard to make money on these if you're > careful now Griffin have done the bulk of the work. Isn't it EMI who hold > the rights for the UK stuff since Virgin, though? I wish I knew whether > that meant that repackaged remasters like the first six were likely to > emerge, or that we'll just never see them (especially since I doubt EMI From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Mar 11 18:33:23 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:33:23 -0000 Subject: HW: Gig advertising Message-ID: it's a fact that short of a surprise gig by U2 in a venue small enough to hold a rally from the milk marketing board, most people know that most gigs these days tend not to sell out, so they delay ticket buying until the last day or the night of the gig, especially in places such as the ones the Hawks are visiting. However, this always causes problems for promotors who can be prone to bouts of extreme nervousness when a week before the concert, ticket sales have 'died' or 'performed less well' and the gig gets pulled. If the band or their label are running the thing, then by and large it comes off - but recent cases where gigs got pullled by Magma in the north and Scotland, and Pete Namlook in London, are indicative of the not-so-fearless promotor - but hey, someone's got to do it. As to the publicity, I would imagine there will be some somewhere - a band like the Hawks will surely take this into account when setting up the gigs. I reckon everyone's leaving it late. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: J D To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: HW: Gig advertising Hi, Someone was surprised to be purchasing ticket no. 49 for the Aldershot gig in 3 weeks time. Agreed that this is concerning and have the following thoughts .... Just what publicity has there been for these gigs? Admittedly I go nowhere near the music rags to find out if the gigs have been mentioned in them, but it wouldn't surprise to find out that they haven't. Brian Tawn usually puts out a news letter mentioning impending gigs, but there's been nothing from him as yet. Basically if I was not a list member I also would have been totally oblivious to any Hawks gigs coming up. I sincerely hope that HW don't think that mentioning gigs to BOC-L or putting them on Mission Control is anywhere near sufficient in publicising gigs. We are, after all, just a tiny minority of those who would attend HW gigs and half of us live abroad anyway. It's great that HW are participating in using the new technology & media available but it only reaches a small proportion of interested parties. The x-thousand people who attended Brixton (and to a lesser extend Astoria) are not all automatic attendees of these other minor gigs (even if they are aware of them) as these were one-off (OK, two-off) gigs with a dip into the past. Hope I'm wrong on all accounts! I'll be at Nottingham, anyway, and no, I've not bought my ticket yet. Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Mar 11 18:36:26 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:36:26 -0000 Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival Message-ID: next topic - the longest distance you have ever walked to see a band - in my case (and this is cheating) I had to walk back 15 miles from seeing the Gary Moore Band in concert back in '74 but I knew that was going to be the case before I went, so it still counts!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury Festival > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andy Gilham > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury Festival > > > > So Jill, are you saying you won't even walk seven miles for a > Hawkwind show? > > :) > > Hah. Even for Hawkwind that's some hike! I've just recalculated > my rucsack load down to a tenth the size it was previously and added > some hiking boots! As an alternative though it's tempting to > simply raid the piggy bank, find the nearest big town that *does* > run a taxi service and pay the extra mileage. I have my age to > think of after all ................ 8-) Maybe if other folk are > travelling around the same time we could arrange to meet up > somewhere and share the cost of a taxi out??? Just thinking ahead. > > decriptly yrs > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- Andy > > > > www.andygilham.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > > Behalf Of Jill Strobridge > > > Sent: 10 March 2001 20:09 > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival > > > > > > > > > One thing I did catch in that radio show is the fact that the > > > Canterbury Festival site is SEVEN MILES from the nearest railway > > > station and there is no taxi service. (or was that just no > taxi > > > service on Sundays - please tell me it's just Sundays that > comment > > > refers to). > > > Flippin 'eck! > > > jill > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Jill Strobridge > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Mar 11 18:42:21 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:42:21 -0500 Subject: OFF The longest walk.. In-Reply-To: <009d01c0aa86$39616e40$1711bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: 20 mile walk back to college from the US festival (three day festival) in So Cal in the early 80's. Took all night. I was messed up. VERY stoned. Best part.. My friends arrived in their car JUST as I arrived back at the college. Laughing their heads off. HA HA... GOOD memories. NO I didn't know I would have to walk. I really wanted to go home to my own bed. Ah youth. Mike in Troy NY :::-----Original Message----- :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :::Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI :::Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 6:36 PM :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :::Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury Festival ::: ::: :::next topic - the longest distance you have ever walked to see a :::band - in my :::case (and this is cheating) I had to walk back 15 miles from :::seeing the Gary :::Moore Band in concert back in '74 but I knew that was going to :::be the case :::before I went, so it still counts!! :::Andy Garibaldi :::----- Original Message ----- :::From: "Jill Strobridge" :::To: :::Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 9:10 PM :::Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury Festival ::: ::: :::> ----- Original Message ----- :::> From: Andy Gilham :::> To: :::> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:15 PM :::> Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury Festival :::> :::> :::> > So Jill, are you saying you won't even walk seven miles for a :::> Hawkwind show? :::> > :) :::> :::> Hah. Even for Hawkwind that's some hike! I've just recalculated :::> my rucsack load down to a tenth the size it was previously and added :::> some hiking boots! As an alternative though it's tempting to :::> simply raid the piggy bank, find the nearest big town that *does* :::> run a taxi service and pay the extra mileage. I have my age to :::> think of after all ................ 8-) Maybe if other folk are :::> travelling around the same time we could arrange to meet up :::> somewhere and share the cost of a taxi out??? Just thinking ahead. :::> :::> decriptly yrs :::> jill :::> ----------------------------------------------------------------- :::> Jill Strobridge :::> ----------------------------------------------------------------- :::> :::> :::> > -- Andy :::> > :::> > www.andygilham.com :::> > :::> > > -----Original Message----- :::> > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List :::> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :::> > > Behalf Of Jill Strobridge :::> > > Sent: 10 March 2001 20:09 :::> > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :::> > > Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival :::> > > :::> > > :::> > > One thing I did catch in that radio show is the fact that the :::> > > Canterbury Festival site is SEVEN MILES from the nearest railway :::> > > station and there is no taxi service. (or was that just no :::> taxi :::> > > service on Sundays - please tell me it's just Sundays that :::> comment :::> > > refers to). :::> > > Flippin 'eck! :::> > > jill :::> > :::> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- :::> > > Jill Strobridge :::> > :::> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- :::> > > :::> > > :::> > ::: From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sun Mar 11 19:35:43 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:35:43 -0000 Subject: HW: Codex - phew In-Reply-To: <009e01c0aa86$3a3a1b00$1711bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: > I don't know what the situation is now but two or three years > ago, Doug, as > EBS, had the name of Hawkwind copyrighted - this means that > no-one anywhere > can repress anything without his permission, although I wondered > at the time > where Dave came into this, but that was a while back, but presumably still > applies. As I understand it, Dave has the sole right to trade under the name Hawkwind, having done so for practically his entire career. A fine distinction, admittedly... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Mar 11 21:44:00 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:44:00 -0600 Subject: HW: (OFF) ANDY G, ANDY G, +all others In-Reply-To: <009a01c0aa86$361a3280$1711bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: >ever wish you hadn't started this - I posted this to illustrate what a great >idea the PJ's have got by doing this and I only hope to god more bands start >to do this - after 40 years of the rock era, finally a band has realised >what the fans want - halle-friggin-lujah!!! >.........and at the risk of being summarily put in the stocks, I do own >several PJ CD's (and like them!) >Andy Garibaldi. YES! I was simply trying to be cute...thinking I am gods gift to everything, and I didn't realize it was a good idea (all the CD's) , with high-quality CD's at good prices..... I apologized to Andy Gilham privately...I hope he got it..... and while I have only heard one or 2 Pearl Jam tunes, I have nothing against them at all........ I guess next time I want to attack a seattle band, I'll pick on MUDHONEY?? (joke folks, laugh, dam**it)... I do say Kurt was the best......but that's another argument.... AND YES!!! (to someone else's comment)/....I WOULD buy all those CD"s if they were Hawkwind....(all in one day probably) PS...I don't think you people are tiny because you listen to mainstream CD's... I just bought the "DISTURBED" CD and I like it...... righty-'"o" mike c From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Mar 11 22:20:47 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:50:47 +1030 Subject: HW:House ? Message-ID: Yeah - wasn't that taking submissions before the Brixton Concert back in October last year? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth Magnusson To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 5:41 AM Subject: HW:House ? > Whatever happened to the SImon House interview promised on hawkwind.com ? > ------- > Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ > The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Mar 11 22:22:15 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:52:15 +1030 Subject: HW: House ? Message-ID: oh - ok disregard my previous email - cheers mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 6:27 AM Subject: Re: HW: House ? > I've chased Simon but with no luck as yet... I think he was taken aback by > the number of questions - we ran the call for questions in the run-up to the > reunion gig, and the site was extremely busy then. Be patient - it took > about 18 months to get the Liquid Len interview up after all!! > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Kenneth Magnusson > > Sent: 11 March 2001 19:11 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: HW:House ? > > > > > > Whatever happened to the SImon House interview promised on hawkwind.com ? > > ------- > > Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ > > The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor > > > > > From markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Mar 12 03:50:10 2001 From: markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM (mark cotton) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:50:10 -0000 Subject: HW: Gig advertising Message-ID: If anybody from the band is reading this, PLEASE PLEASE get some better advertising for the short tour gigs than the non-existent product for the York gig in '97, there were little more than 49 people there. The local promotion was appalling and a lot of the folks who I knew there had found out by word of mouth. Talking of Northern gigs, did anybody out there go to the 'Dracfest' gig at Whitby, also in '97. The highlights of this event are numerous, but for me the couple of things I still remember are the entrance of Arthur Brown in a coffin escorted by candle bearers (and a fireman!), and Kris making the stage security gorillas duck when she blew her flame immediately over their heads! Space Out! Ike >From: J D >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: Gig advertising >Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:26:17 -0000 > >Hi, >Someone was surprised to be purchasing ticket no. 49 for the Aldershot gig >in 3 weeks time. >Agreed that this is concerning and have the following thoughts .... >Just what publicity has there been for these gigs? >Admittedly I go nowhere near the music rags to find out if the gigs have >been mentioned in them, but it wouldn't surprise to find out that they >haven't. >Brian Tawn usually puts out a news letter mentioning impending gigs, but >there's been nothing from him as yet. >Basically if I was not a list member I also would have been totally >oblivious to any Hawks gigs coming up. >I sincerely hope that HW don't think that mentioning gigs to BOC-L or >putting them on Mission Control is anywhere near sufficient in publicising >gigs. >We are, after all, just a tiny minority of those who would attend HW gigs >and half of us live abroad anyway. >It's great that HW are participating in using the new technology & media >available but it only reaches a small proportion of interested parties. >The x-thousand people who attended Brixton (and to a lesser extend Astoria) >are not all automatic attendees of these other minor gigs (even if they are >aware of them) as these were one-off (OK, two-off) gigs with a dip into the >past. >Hope I'm wrong on all accounts! >I'll be at Nottingham, anyway, and no, I've not bought my ticket yet. >Jez > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Mar 12 05:06:01 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 05:06:01 -0500 Subject: HW: Canterbury tales Message-ID: It is amazingly civilised; a really beautiful area and the venue is stunning! Colin From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Mar 12 07:46:29 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:46:29 -0500 Subject: HW: Right on Paul! Message-ID: At the very least, they could put up a note on Mission Control saying they officially allow taping at gigs, and then we'd have good quality shows circulating (using mics on stands instead of hidden in coats) instead of the aforementioned dodgy auds... Cheers, Paul. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Right on! If this were the case, I would have my plane ticket in hand and reservations made. Heck, I have enough battery power to run my rig w/o even worrying about recharging! And what's wrong w/ Pearl Jam releasing all their shows on disc??!! More bands should do this!! Mike, how is it that you can post to the list, but you can't get off your duff and mail out my Harvey disc? Come on man! I thought we was friends ") Darrin np: Bedouin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Mar 12 08:06:08 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:06:08 +0000 Subject: Bedouin gig dates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Star Cannibal wrote: > >So it would seem that he couldn't be arsed to sort out a gig in > >Cambridge, then, despite being invited! > > Or maybe it's just that he has other things to do right now than play a > short notice, one off gig to keep someone's little party running. Well, actually, he seems to think he can find time to do this. It has been, as Carl pointed out, quite long notice, and it's not a party but a proper-type gig. And I'm happy to say we're sorting it out even now. Details will be announced when resolved to our mutual satisfactions, but do not write the idea off just yet. Thanks for your interest and support though, yours, Jon ObCD: Edgar Froese - _Aqua_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From novadrive at HOME.COM Mon Mar 12 09:32:31 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:32:31 -0700 Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival In-Reply-To: <009d01c0aa86$39616e40$1711bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: The Astoria HawkXmas show....I've absolutely no idea how many miles I put on my shoes that night/morning, but I walked from the Astoria to the after-gig party, then hoofed it to the after-party party, then wandered to the flat I was staying at (getting lost once or twice along the way) in Shepherds Bush. It's a good thing that I was, er, um, not in the, uhhh, mood to be concentrating too hard on the distances involved (thanks in good part to Julie and Merrick, and Eli, and other kind souls). KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 4:36 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury Festival next topic - the longest distance you have ever walked to see a band - in my case (and this is cheating) I had to walk back 15 miles from seeing the Gary Moore Band in concert back in '74 but I knew that was going to be the case before I went, so it still counts!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury Festival > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andy Gilham > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury Festival > > > > So Jill, are you saying you won't even walk seven miles for a > Hawkwind show? > > :) > > Hah. Even for Hawkwind that's some hike! I've just recalculated > my rucsack load down to a tenth the size it was previously and added > some hiking boots! As an alternative though it's tempting to > simply raid the piggy bank, find the nearest big town that *does* > run a taxi service and pay the extra mileage. I have my age to > think of after all ................ 8-) Maybe if other folk are > travelling around the same time we could arrange to meet up > somewhere and share the cost of a taxi out??? Just thinking ahead. > > decriptly yrs > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- Andy > > > > www.andygilham.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > > Behalf Of Jill Strobridge > > > Sent: 10 March 2001 20:09 > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival > > > > > > > > > One thing I did catch in that radio show is the fact that the > > > Canterbury Festival site is SEVEN MILES from the nearest railway > > > station and there is no taxi service. (or was that just no > taxi > > > service on Sundays - please tell me it's just Sundays that > comment > > > refers to). > > > Flippin 'eck! > > > jill > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Jill Strobridge > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Mar 12 09:02:44 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:02:44 -0600 Subject: CDS Message-ID: Does anyone know the email address for CD SERVICES? STEPHE From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Mar 12 10:22:48 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:52:48 +1030 Subject: CDS Message-ID: http://www.cd-srvices.com andygee at dial.pipex.com This should help Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: CDS > Does anyone know the email address for CD SERVICES? STEPHE > From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Mon Mar 12 10:42:24 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:42:24 +0100 Subject: HW:Astoria revisited In-Reply-To: <27839F4FFBF6D21181E20008C7C5640806C002EF@exdkba04.novo.dk> Message-ID: Hi Scott, >Can anyone send me the set lists for the Tim Blake and Simon House sets from >the 29/12/00 concert. The set-list for the Tim Blake-show is: 1. Sarajevo 2. Tribulations 3. The Tide Of The Century 4. [short unknown song] 5. St. Dolay 6. Crystal Island 7. New Jerusalem (incomplete on the tape) BTW, did you receive the CD-Rs? (c)IAO D+R From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Mar 12 10:59:14 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:59:14 -0000 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010312163955.021a0660@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: Have just found another cover version of Motorhead to add to my growing collection. This one by Lawnmower Deth. Quite remarkable! :-) Cheers, Rich. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From nexus at PANIX.COM Mon Mar 12 11:04:05 2001 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:04:05 -0500 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: from "Richard Lockwood" at Mar 12, 2001 03:59:14 PM Message-ID: >Have just found another cover version of Motorhead to add to my growing >collection. This one by Lawnmower Deth. Quite remarkable! >:-) yeah, that's a good one. Their two covers of Kim Wilde's "Kids in America" are even better, though. (Better, for Lawnmower Deth, of course, means funnier.) JB PS. You got no legs, don't come crawlin' to me ... -- Lawnmower Deth From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Mar 12 11:08:45 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:08:45 -0000 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: <200103121604.LAA05488@panix3.panix.com> Message-ID: Not a patch on their "Up The Junction" though! :-) Cheers, Rich. > > > >Have just found another cover version of Motorhead to add to my growing > >collection. This one by Lawnmower Deth. Quite remarkable! > >:-) > > yeah, that's a good one. Their two covers of Kim Wilde's > "Kids in America" are even better, though. > (Better, for Lawnmower Deth, of course, means funnier.) > > JB > > PS. You got no legs, don't come crawlin' to me ... > -- Lawnmower Deth _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Mar 12 11:15:32 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:15:32 -0500 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Have just found another cover version of Motorhead to add to my growing > collection. This one by Lawnmower Deth. Quite remarkable! > Ooh Crikey! It's Lawnmower Deth! ;-) Personal Lawmmower Deth/HW connection: I used to spin some of LD's more playable tunes on my radio show back in college. Which is where I also heard my first HW tune, "Psi-Power" from a pristine Hawklords album in the music library. It was Flying Doctor that I got hooked on though. Soon afterwards I bought HotMG and the rest is history.... Brian From blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US Mon Mar 12 11:43:43 2001 From: blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US (Brad M. Lauchnor) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:43:43 -0700 Subject: BOC: The Thing! cover. Message-ID: Go to my new BOC page (just started) and get the cover art for The Thing. Left click to view or right click to save. http://www.geocities.com/occultnitude/bocpage.html From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 12 12:22:27 2001 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:22:27 -0000 Subject: Bedouin/Alan Davey stuff Message-ID: As I was sat eating my supper last night I was vaguely wondering if Alan was going to change his Bedouin set around for the forthcoming gig dates, when, as often happens, the phone rings and it is Alan. After getting over the 'coincidence', he said 'that happens so often I was thinking about doing a song about how non-wierd that is now'. Anyway, Alan has indeed been very busy lately. Since I saw him in the New Year he has completed two albums, organised a small tour, rehearsed with Hawkwind and been helping mix the Astoria gig with Dave. He wanted to remix his latest Bedouin album during Jan/Feb, adding some pieces with Simon House and generally getting it to sound better, which he has now completed (I heard it before, and it sounded great then). This was planned since before Christmas. Alan then wanted Bedouin to play some gigs Feb/March, but did not want to book anything which might clash with Hawkwind dates, so they got held off until the Hawk dates were confirmed. This is why there was no chance of him playing the Cambridge Rock Society gig in early March, which he was not actually contacted about properly until mid/late January. He is still willing to play this or any other venue, but only if they don't clash with any proposed future Hawkwind dates, other projects, etc. He said he was still waiting to hear back from the promoters confirming the Cambridge gig, and very much resents being accused of 'he couldn't be arsed to sort out a gig in Cambridge' by some. (There, I've put it in nice words rather than quoting Alan directly :-) ) Someone asked about the possibility of Bedouin playing gigs in Scotland, but unfortunately the fuel cost alone is ?150, so unless a venue is prepared to pay more you'll be unlikely to see them up there (Glen says it's too bloody cold anyway!). Over the last few weeks Alan has recorded some more solo stuff, enough to make another album out of, and altered some of the Bedouin songs (again! For those of you who don't go to more than one or two gigs, Alan often alters parts of songs, sometimes on a daily basis. This is why you may have heard many different versions Sputnik Stan, for example). He also has a new song called 'Airspace' to add to his live set. Most of this has been done when he's not at Dave's rehearsing for what sound like some great Hawkwind gigs! Lots happening soon, hope to see some of you there, Neil. March 23rd Army and Navy,138, Parkway, Chelmsford. 01245 354155 24th Leas Cliff Hall, Folkstone. 01303 252113 (Eves only) 25th Fairfield Hall, Croydon. Supporting Hawkwind April 1st Aldershot. Supporting Hawkwind 2nd Rock City, Nottingham. Supporting Hawkwind 3rd Irish Centre, Leeds. Supporting Hawkwind 7th Half Moon, 93,Richmond Road, Putney. 0181 7809383 14th The Mars Bar, 12 Pierpoint Street, Worcester 01905 613336 21st Axe and Cleaver,16, West Street, Boston.01205 367300 26th The Horn, Victoria Street, St. Albans 01727 844627 27th The Gander, 2 Holdenhurst Road, Bournemouth. 01202 290294 May 10th The Limelight, Crewe. 01270 255519 11th The Rigger, Marsh Parade, Newcastle-Under-Lyme. 01782 616602 From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Mar 12 12:47:14 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:47:14 -0600 Subject: HW: OFF: public embarrassment/Mckeehan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And what's wrong w/ Pearl Jam releasing all their shows on disc??!! More >bands should do this!! NOTHING!!! I was having fun with my imagination, and I at first saw it as a AMERICAN marketing strategy.....I was incorrect and I duely said so.... > >Mike, how is it that you can post to the list, but you can't get off your >duff and mail out my Harvey disc? > >Come on man! I thought we was friends ") > >Darrin This is a cheap shot.........how do you know if I sent it yet....MAN...I tell you no charge, I plan to throw in my 1 ASTORIA tea shirt, still no charge, and you do this!!!! Your pushing me....and I like being pushed,,,,, The answer to your question is this: I AM AN EVIL BASTARD!!!! just ask the Dallas Police!!! who I am friends with, and will now leave me tickets on my door rather than smashing my window or having a showdown.... THE DEVIL From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Mar 12 12:12:20 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:12:20 EDT Subject: BOC: The Thing! cover. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12 Mar 2001, at 9:43, Brad M. Lauchnor wrote: > Go to my new BOC page (just started) and get the cover art for The > Thing. Left click to view or right click to save. > > http://www.geocities.com/occultnitude/bocpage.html Great stuff! Albert is the picture of R'N'R decadence. Speaking of Al, does anyone know of any tBS gigs coming up? Looks like BOC are lying low, working on the new disc... theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 12 13:39:56 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:39:56 -0500 Subject: pity they can't do this....... Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:58:31 EST, Bob Lennon wrote: >This subject came up on the John Cale list a few years ago, Cale being >notoriously super anti-taping. John Cale (brilliant musician that he is) is notoriously a super ASSHOLE, period, with a reputation of having complete contempt for his fans. He's definitely (along with Ray Davies) on my list of people-I-admire-that-I- would-NEVER-want-to-meet-in-the-flesh. >... (am I wrong), in the >world of bootleggers, they aren't interested in the band as much as making >money from them illegally. Actually, according to Clinton Heylin's BRILLIANT book, 'Bootleg' (if you have the remotest interest in the subject, you MUST seek this out and read it!), many of the bootleggers in the "golden age" of the 70's would release boots by megastar bands they weren't so much into (Fleetwood Mac, for instance) in order to subsidize boots by obscure bands that they loved (like Captain Beefheart). (And let's face it - if someone is making bootlegs of Hawkwind, they're obviously not in it for the money - if they were, they'd be booting Pearl Jam.) [extremely valid points snipped...] >with >the abundance of cdr's (I would think) less and less boots would be >purchased, more or less traded by fans. >who knows. I agree with this 100%. Someone should make t-shirts that read, "Home CD recording is killing the bootleg industry". -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 12 13:48:11 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:48:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: muddy pj's Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:44:00 -0600, Mike Coleman wrote: > I guess next time I want to attack a seattle band, I'll pick on MUDHONEY?? >(joke folks, laugh, dam**it)... Bring it on, I can take it! (joke understood!) -Doug (who was very much in the "half-of-Green River-ruled / half-of- Green River-sucked" camp when that split happened 13? 14? years ago ... guess which one let me drink their beer backstage; swallow my pride indeed?) ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 12 13:57:42 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:57:42 -0500 Subject: HW: House ? Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:57:47 -0000, Andy Gilham wrote: >I've chased Simon but with no luck as yet... I think he was taken aback by >the number of questions - Uh ... I probably have to take the blame for some of this since I sent him about a dozen questions (one electric violinist to another, y'know). Feel free to let him know I won't be the least bit offended if he can't be bothered with all of them! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Mar 12 14:05:26 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:05:26 -0000 Subject: HW: Not such a long walk after all Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: MandVPow at cs.com To: nick.lee2 at virgin.net Date: 11 March 2001 20:27 Subject: Re: Information request from www.CanterburySoundFestival.com >Thank you for your enquiry > >There is no camping at the festival, however there are campsites within 2 >miles from the site. Details of these will be on the website when it is up >and running in another seven days or so. It will be under links to "Tourist >information". > >Regards > >Canterbury Sound Festival Team > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Mar 12 14:02:03 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:02:03 -0000 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead Message-ID: which reminds me that in regard to a posting ages ago, that Motorhead track that introduces Triple H on the World Wrestling Federation IS on the brand new WWF CD, for those that need to know. So who's going to suggest to the Undertaker that he now rides in to the strains of 'Silver Machine' - perfect methinks!!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 4:15 PM Subject: Re: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead > > Have just found another cover version of Motorhead to add to my growing > > collection. This one by Lawnmower Deth. Quite remarkable! > > > > Ooh Crikey! It's Lawnmower Deth! ;-) > > Personal Lawmmower Deth/HW connection: > I used to spin some of LD's more playable tunes on my radio show back in > college. Which is where I also heard my first HW tune, "Psi-Power" from a > pristine Hawklords album in the music library. It was Flying Doctor that I > got hooked on though. Soon afterwards I bought HotMG and the rest is > history.... > > Brian From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Mar 12 14:33:44 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:33:44 -0000 Subject: pity they can't do this....... Message-ID: Brilliant - if they ever do then mail me one - will wear it with pride!!! Actually the state of some of the Scottish record fares, you'd think the bootleg industry was alive and kicking. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Pearson" To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 6:39 PM Subject: Re: pity they can't do this....... > I agree with this 100%. Someone should make t-shirts that read, "Home CD > recording is killing the bootleg industry". > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Mar 12 14:11:38 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:11:38 -0000 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead Message-ID: > >Ooh Crikey! It's Lawnmower Deth! ;-) > Not got any of their stuff, but we put them on a couple of times in my Rock Soc days. Didn't they do a very brief tribute to Jimi Hendrix that was one chord followed by "HE'S DEAD!" Nick From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Mar 12 14:38:19 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:38:19 -0000 Subject: Bedouin/Alan Davey stuff Message-ID: and while we're on this, the Alan solo CD album, 'The Final Call' is now all ready to roll into the pressing plant (well, it will be once Dave has tweaked with the artwork) and release is expected in early April but we will be giving flyers with all details on to Alan to leaflet at the Hawk gigs, OK. The album will be on CD Services' label Centaur Discs, not Dead Earnest. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Ward" To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 5:22 PM Subject: Bedouin/Alan Davey stuff From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Mar 12 14:34:32 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:34:32 -0500 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: <008a01c0ab28$44d49d40$9d45fc3e@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: >> >> Ooh Crikey! It's Lawnmower Deth! ;-) >> > Not got any of their stuff, but we put them on a couple of times in my Rock > Soc days. Didn't they do a very brief tribute to Jimi Hendrix that was one > chord followed by "HE'S DEAD!" > > Nick It's more than possible, though I don't remember it. That's totally their sense of humor. Which reminds me of another band of the type from my college days, Murphy's Law. Today's turning into a day of musical re-discovery! :-) Brian Now stuck in my head> Murphy's Law "Crucial Bar-B-Que" From nexus at PANIX.COM Mon Mar 12 14:51:27 2001 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:51:27 -0500 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: from "Brian Halligan" at Mar 12, 2001 02:34:32 PM Message-ID: >> Not got any of their stuff, but we put them on a couple of times in my Rock >> Soc days. Didn't they do a very brief tribute to Jimi Hendrix that was one >> chord followed by "HE'S DEAD!" >> Nick Actually, I think the "Ode to Jimi Hendrix" was Stormtroopers of Death off the "Speak English or Die" disc. (And it was, "You're Dead" IIRC.) JB From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Mar 12 15:27:59 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:27:59 -0000 Subject: HW: Gig advertising Message-ID: > Talking of Northern gigs, did anybody out there go to the 'Dracfest' gig at > Whitby, also in '97. The highlights of this event are numerous, but for me > the couple of things I still remember are the entrance of Arthur Brown in a > coffin escorted by candle bearers (and a fireman!), and Kris making the > stage security gorillas duck when she blew her flame immediately over their > heads! Oh yes - Dracfest is one of the highlights in my Festival memories. Arthur Brown gave an amazing performance and it's such a shame it was never (to the best of my knowledge) recorded on video. That guy has a really powerful stagepresence! But equally to my regret he did a surprisingly understated solo performance at Glastonbury so who can say how he will be feeling at Canterbury...... jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Mar 12 15:47:05 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:47:05 -0600 Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival In-Reply-To: <00aa01c0a9a6$89308ea0$c149893e@jds> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Jill Strobridge wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury Festival : :----- Original Message ----- :From: Andy Gilham :To: :Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 8:15 PM :Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury Festival : : :> So Jill, are you saying you won't even walk seven miles for a :Hawkwind show? :> :) : :Hah. Even for Hawkwind that's some hike! I've just recalculated :my rucsack load down to a tenth the size it was previously and added :some hiking boots! As an alternative though it's tempting to :simply raid the piggy bank, find the nearest big town that *does* :run a taxi service and pay the extra mileage. I have my age to :think of after all ................ 8-) Maybe if other folk are :travelling around the same time we could arrange to meet up :somewhere and share the cost of a taxi out??? Just thinking ahead. : :decriptly yrs :jill Alternately, if they have parking, we could meet up somewhere and rent a car (or cars, depending on the amount of people we get.) If I manage to get across the pond for canterbury, of course. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Mar 12 15:47:29 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:47:29 -0000 Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival Message-ID: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 11:36 PM Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury Festival > next topic - the longest distance you have ever walked to see a band - in my > case (and this is cheating) I had to walk back 15 miles from seeing the Gary > Moore Band in concert back in '74 but I knew that was going to be the case > before I went, so it still counts!! > Andy Garibaldi Can't equal that but the walk out of Summer Daze in Devon was a long one while the walk out of Pentrich was as long and hot a trek as I NEVER, NEVER wish to do again 8-(( jill From pat at THE-MILLS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Mar 12 16:47:38 2001 From: pat at THE-MILLS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Pat Bloomfield) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:47:38 +0000 Subject: digest? & collectables Message-ID: I'm new to this mailing list and was wondering if it's possible to get a daily digest instead of individual messages? I saw that PXR5 and Quark, Strangeness & Charm have become quite hard to get old of. does that mean they've been discontinued? From a collectable point of view would an LP be worth more than a CD. I have hawkwind's debut album in a limited picture disc. Never expected it to be worth much but wonder what there value would be. Is there a web site with full Hawkwind discography, including bootlegs and their value? Sorry lots of questions but people here seem far more knowledgable than me. Pat Bloomfield From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Mar 12 16:46:39 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:46:39 -0000 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead Message-ID: >Actually, I think the "Ode to Jimi Hendrix" was Stormtroopers >of Death off the "Speak English or Die" disc. (And it was, >"You're Dead" IIRC.) > >JB They did do some sort of 'Scarface' tribute to Gary Moore tho' didn't they? From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Mar 12 15:56:02 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:56:02 EDT Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: <001601c0ab3d$ed3370a0$8428fd3e@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: On 12 Mar 2001, at 21:46, Nick Lee wrote: > >Actually, I think the "Ode to Jimi Hendrix" was Stormtroopers > >of Death off the "Speak English or Die" disc. (And it was, > >"You're Dead" IIRC.) > > > >JB > > They did do some sort of 'Scarface' tribute to Gary Moore tho' didn't > they? Howls! Am I reading this right, because GM's complexion is somewhat shy of 'peaches and cream?' Or is there another reason? theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Mar 12 17:05:23 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:05:23 -0000 Subject: digest? & collectables Message-ID: Well the Picture Disc is a repress. A nice looking one though, used to go for 6quid. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Bloomfield" To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:47 PM Subject: digest? & collectables > I'm new to this mailing list and was wondering if it's possible to get a daily digest instead of individual messages? > > I saw that PXR5 and Quark, Strangeness & Charm have become quite hard to get old of. does that mean they've been discontinued? From a collectable point of view would an LP be worth more than a CD. > > I have hawkwind's debut album in a limited picture disc. Never expected it to be worth much but wonder what there value would be. > > Is there a web site with full Hawkwind discography, including bootlegs and their value? > > Sorry lots of questions but people here seem far more knowledgable than me. > > Pat Bloomfield > From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Mar 12 16:58:49 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:58:49 -0000 Subject: digest? & collectables In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm new to this mailing list and was wondering if it's possible > to get a daily digest instead of individual messages? Send an e-mail to LISTSERV at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU with SET BOC-L DIGEST in the message body. (SET BOC-L NODIGEST if you change your mind.) > I saw that PXR5 and Quark, Strangeness & Charm have become quite > hard to get old of. does that mean they've been discontinued? Long ago, I'm afraid. > From a collectable point of view would an LP be worth more than a CD. Wouldn't have a bastard clue! ;) > Is there a web site with full Hawkwind discography, including > bootlegs and their value? http://www.adawson.clara.net/ is pretty exhaustive, but doesn't include any price guides; I'm not aware that any price guides exist...? -- Andy www.andygilham.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 12 17:10:39 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:10:39 -0500 Subject: digest? & collectables Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:58:49 -0000, Andy Gilham wrote: >> Is there a web site with full Hawkwind discography, including >> bootlegs and their value? > >http://www.adawson.clara.net/ is pretty exhaustive, but doesn't include any >price guides; I'm not aware that any price guides exist...? 'Record Collector' magazine in the UK seems to have had a Hawkwind feature every 5 years or so since about '85 (usually with input from Brian Tawn to ensure some degree of accuracy to the extremely-convoluted discography), with reasonably complete and accurate price guides. I think the last one, though, was published right around the time the Virgin/Charisma and Griffin Charisma reissue CD's went out of print, so those wouldn't have been considered "rare" at the time. FWIW the 'PXR5' and 'Hawklords' CD's are far rarer than 'Quark' and ASAM, since the former were only released in the UK, while the latter were also reissued by Griffin in the States. As for vinyl vs. CD, there's NO WAY that ANY Charisma-era vinyl is going for US$100 (except, I suppose, for the Italian "Hassan" 7"); after all, the vinyl LP's all stayed in-print for about 15 years, as opposed to the CD's, which were only available for about 5. I know for a fact that US vinyl pressings of 'Hawklords/25 Years On' still run about US$5. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Mar 12 17:15:26 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:15:26 -0000 Subject: digest? & collectables In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >I saw that PXR5 and Quark, Strangeness & Charm have become quite hard to get old of. does that mean they've been discontinued? From a collectable point of view would an LP be worth more than a CD. in the case of PXR5 and Quark, Strangeness & Charm and the other charisma hawkwind releases the cds cost a lot more than even the original vinyl versions. colm From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 12 17:20:29 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:20:29 -0500 Subject: HW: Codex - phew Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:41:28 -0000, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >I don't know what the situation is now but two or three years ago, Doug, >as EBS, had the name of Hawkwind copyrighted Do you mean trademarked? I don't believe you can copyright a band name. If it actually had been trademarked, though, every commercial usage of the band name "Hawkwind" would be legally required to include the "TM" designation (or the circle-R designation, once the trademark is registered). >- this means that no-one >anywhere can repress anything without his permission, If this is true, then where are all the Dave Anderson releases coming from? (Is he paying kickbacks to Doug Smith? That would be realllly interesting.) >although I wondered at the time where Dave came into this, Interesting fact: you can own a trademark on a name that's not your own. Next time you're in a used record store, take a look at the Billy Joel albums (there should be tons in the budget bin). The trademark on the name "Billy Joel" is owned by his ex-manager, who collects royalties on the use of the trademark, even though he ceased to be BJ's manager LONG before the guy had any hits (that's what's called a REALLY BAD management contract). -Doug (not Smith) ceres at sirius.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Mar 12 16:27:32 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:27:32 EDT Subject: HW: Codex - phew In-Reply-To: <200103122220.RAA13072@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 12 Mar 2001, at 17:20, Douglas Pearson wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:41:28 -0000, ANDREW GARIBALDI > wrote: > >I don't know what the situation is now but two or three years ago, > >Doug, as EBS, had the name of Hawkwind copyrighted > > Do you mean trademarked? I don't believe you can copyright a band > name. If it actually had been trademarked, though, every commercial > usage of the band name "Hawkwind" would be legally required to include > the "TM" designation (or the circle-R designation, once the trademark > is registered). > I'm not sure how this all works, but I think one can only trademark a certain stylized portrayal of the word. Cf the band Chicago. Obviously, one can't trademark a name of a whole city, but the group did trademark their rendition of the city name. I'm sure Kiss must have done something like this! > Interesting fact: you can own a trademark on a name that's not your > own. Next time you're in a used record store, take a look at the Billy > Joel albums (there should be tons in the budget bin). Never enough! The trademark > on the name "Billy Joel" is owned by his ex-manager, who collects > royalties on the use of the trademark, even though he ceased to be > BJ's manager LONG before the guy had any hits (that's what's called a > REALLY BAD management contract). > Yeah, but there is some poetic justice to the scenario you've described! theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Mar 12 20:20:40 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:20:40 EST Subject: digest? & collectables Message-ID: In a message dated 3/12/01 2:11:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > I know for a fact that US vinyl > pressings of 'Hawklords/25 Years On' still run about US$5. > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com Yeah, I'm surprised at how many times I've come across this one. Seems like one of the more common Hawk-vinyls in the States. And several have been white-label promos at that! (I think I might still have an extra, if anyone's interested). Chuck From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Mar 12 21:24:15 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:54:15 +1030 Subject: Micks tshirt Message-ID: Hey there Has anyone out there been able to find Micks T Shirt @ the mission control On the Updates section it says the T shirt is now available but upon looking in the for sale section I only find the Shield & the sold out New Zealand Or is it just me - do'oh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Mar 13 02:23:09 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:23:09 -0000 Subject: digest? & collectables Message-ID: If you visit 'Ask Jeeves' at http://www.ask.co.uk/ and type in 'How much are my Hawkwind Albums worth? (no I'd never sell any of them - not even the duplicates), you're prompted and then whisked off to a lovely site that's full of info. Just can't remember the name of it!! Sam Kirwan -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Pearson [mailto:ceres at SIRIUS.COM] Sent: 12 March 2001 22:11 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: digest? & collectables On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:58:49 -0000, Andy Gilham wrote: >> Is there a web site with full Hawkwind discography, including >> bootlegs and their value? > >http://www.adawson.clara.net/ is pretty exhaustive, but doesn't include any >price guides; I'm not aware that any price guides exist...? 'Record Collector' magazine in the UK seems to have had a Hawkwind feature every 5 years or so since about '85 (usually with input from Brian Tawn to ensure some degree of accuracy to the extremely-convoluted discography), with reasonably complete and accurate price guides. I think the last one, though, was published right around the time the Virgin/Charisma and Griffin Charisma reissue CD's went out of print, so those wouldn't have been considered "rare" at the time. FWIW the 'PXR5' and 'Hawklords' CD's are far rarer than 'Quark' and ASAM, since the former were only released in the UK, while the latter were also reissued by Griffin in the States. As for vinyl vs. CD, there's NO WAY that ANY Charisma-era vinyl is going for US$100 (except, I suppose, for the Italian "Hassan" 7"); after all, the vinyl LP's all stayed in-print for about 15 years, as opposed to the CD's, which were only available for about 5. I know for a fact that US vinyl pressings of 'Hawklords/25 Years On' still run about US$5. -Doug ceres at sirius.com *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Mar 13 03:29:28 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:29:28 -0000 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: <200103121951.OAA03482@panix3.panix.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Jeff Berry > Sent: 12 March 2001 19:51 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead > > > >> Not got any of their stuff, but we put them on a couple of > times in my Rock > >> Soc days. Didn't they do a very brief tribute to Jimi Hendrix > that was one > >> chord followed by "HE'S DEAD!" > >> Nick > > Actually, I think the "Ode to Jimi Hendrix" was Stormtroopers > of Death off the "Speak English or Die" disc. (And it was, > "You're Dead" IIRC.) > > JB Almost - it was "The Ballad Of Jimi Hendrix", and was the first few chords of Purple Haze, followed by "You're Dead". A band I was in at college was contemplating a whole album of this kind of thing. "The Ballad Of Mama Cass Elliot" ("Cough, choke..."), "The Ballad of Lynyrd Skynyrd" ("I'm as free as a bird now... CRASH!") and about a dozen more... But then the bar closed and we forgot all about it. Cheers, Rich. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Mar 13 03:31:21 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:31:21 -0000 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: <3AACFFA1.6639.16DBAB0@localhost> Message-ID: > > > >Actually, I think the "Ode to Jimi Hendrix" was Stormtroopers > > >of Death off the "Speak English or Die" disc. (And it was, > > >"You're Dead" IIRC.) > > > > > >JB > > > > They did do some sort of 'Scarface' tribute to Gary Moore tho' didn't > > they? > > Howls! Am I reading this right, because GM's complexion is > somewhat shy of 'peaches and cream?' Or is there another reason? > Gary Moore - the man described by Ozzy as "If he had a face like a welders bench it'd be better than the one he's got now". :-) R. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Mar 13 04:46:05 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:46:05 -0000 Subject: digest? & collectables In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D9035E31AB@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: > If you visit 'Ask Jeeves' at http://www.ask.co.uk/ and type in > 'How much are > my Hawkwind Albums worth? (no I'd never sell any of them - not even the > duplicates), you're prompted and then whisked off to a lovely site that's > full of info. Just can't remember the name of it!! > > Sam Kirwan http://www.drury335.freeserve.co.uk/hawkwind-pg.htm Cheers, Sam -- Andy www.andygilham.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 13 05:30:15 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:00:15 +1030 Subject: holy hawkwind batman Message-ID: what does the subject have to do with this message not much but now that I have yo attention can someone please answer this? is the IRC thingy needed for the upcoming chat the software I'm currently downloading now: ITS mirc582t.exe from the mIRC homepage? Duh - Am I right or wong Thanks space-guys an space-gals Mb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Tue Mar 13 05:29:04 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:29:04 -0000 Subject: HW: Ish... Message-ID: Mmmmm, My understanding is that the trademarking odf a name does indeed apply only to a registered representation of that name - the name can be reproduced within certain legal bounds almost at will provided it is in some way 'different' to the registered version. And IIRC it is possible to reproduce ANY work, 'registered' , 'copyrighted' or otherwise for one's own personal use. Anyway , to get a slightly more HW feel about this, a very good friend of mine has been talking to Peter Pro>>>>k regarding the production of items in pewter, leather etc. He's got permission for some stuff and is now looking for ideas for items that people might like !! Examples would be drinking vessels with engravings of artwork etc (he does a nice line in drinking horns by the way). So, any suggestions ? Mark (Hasbeen) (Still up for Cambridge BTW) ______________ Original Snippet ______________ I'm not sure how this all works, but I think one can only trademark a certain stylized portrayal of the word. Cf the band Chicago. Obviously, one can't trademark a name of a whole city, but the group did trademark their rendition of the city name. I'm sure Kiss must have done something like this! From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Mar 13 07:09:09 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:09:09 EDT Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 13 Mar 2001, at 8:31, Richard Lockwood wrote: > Gary Moore - the man described by Ozzy as "If he had a face like a > welders bench it'd be better than the one he's got now". > Amazing! Of course this from a guy who has 'o-z-z-y' tattooed on his knuckles. Must have thought it was an improvement, or maybe it was just to help him remember his name? theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 13 08:50:34 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 00:20:34 +1030 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead Message-ID: >> "Wherever you go, there you are." Its true! From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Mar 13 09:02:04 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:02:04 -0500 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Richard Lockwood wrote: => Gary Moore - the man described by Ozzy as "If he had a face like a welders => bench it'd be better than the one he's got now". Didn't Gary get that scar when someone went at him with a broken beer glass in a bar? Let's just say it means he has to trade on his music, not his looks. :-) (Moore-related tidbit/observation: has anyone else noticed that Jimmy Herring's guitar work on live versions of "Loan Me a Dime" sounds a dead ringer for Gary Moore?) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Mar 13 09:07:55 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:07:55 -0500 Subject: HW: Ish... In-Reply-To: <91BAA0121CBDD31183B400A0CC585F7103C178@BRIGHTON> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Mark Lee wrote: => is in some way 'different' to the registered version. And IIRC => it is possible to reproduce ANY work, 'registered' , 'copyrighted' or => otherwise for one's own personal use. Do you mean legally possible? I believe that applies only to items you own. Others would undoubtedly fall under the "fair use" provisions, at least that's what I recall from those "reminder" sheets stuck up next to the photocopiers in the library. The gist of it, from what I remember, is that it is okay to copy parts of a book, say, but not the entire thing. Maybe Theo the librarian could chime in, here? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Mar 13 09:09:51 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:09:51 -0000 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > => Gary Moore - the man described by Ozzy as "If he had a face > like a welders > => bench it'd be better than the one he's got now". > > Didn't Gary get that scar when someone went at him with a broken beer > glass in a bar? Let's just say it means he has to trade on his music, > not his looks. :-) > I think Mr Moore wasn't averse to the odd pagga in his youth generally... :-) Cheers, Rich. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 08:03:32 2001 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:03:32 +0000 Subject: HW: for trade/sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi folks, A friend has copies of Warrior On The Edge Of Time (orig, fold out sleeve) and In Search Of Space (orig, fold out sleeve) for trade or sale. Both are in great condition, though Warrior has a small white sticker on the sleeve and a few marks. He's after HW CD's, or will sell for a fair price (make yer offer!). Please mail me offlist if interested. One more thing... anyone know any decent cheap places to stay in Nottingham?! cheers, Dave From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Mar 13 08:11:41 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:11:41 EDT Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 13 Mar 2001, at 9:02, Paul Mather wrote: > Didn't Gary get that scar when someone went at him with a broken beer > glass in a bar? Let's just say it means he has to trade on his music, > not his looks. :-) > Geez, his music's not THAT bad! > (Moore-related tidbit/observation: has anyone else noticed that Jimmy > Herring's guitar work on live versions of "Loan Me a Dime" sounds a > dead ringer for Gary Moore?) > I haven't heard it, but my only criticism of Jimmy's playing is that sometimes he treads a bit too close to his influences, esp. Jeff Beck [at least in his work with ARU] which isn't a bad thing. I've only seen him live once, and that was with ARU, and he is a brother from another planet! theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Mar 13 08:23:12 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:23:12 EDT Subject: HW: Ish... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 13 Mar 2001, at 9:07, Paul Mather wrote: > > Do you mean legally possible? I believe that applies only to items > you own. Others would undoubtedly fall under the "fair use" > provisions, at least that's what I recall from those "reminder" sheets > stuck up next to the photocopiers in the library. The gist of it, > from what I remember, is that it is okay to copy parts of a book, say, > but not the entire thing. > > Maybe Theo the librarian could chime in, here? > I'm not a librarian, but I work with a whole bunch of them! Actually, photocopying is technically illegal, but copyright holders generally look the other way when academic work is involved. Theoretically, if you're going to use more than a hundred words [I think] you're supposed to contact the copyright holder and get permission. But this is ignored wholesale, esp. in cases where a prof. has the only copy of a book available, and photocopies big chunks of text for use in class. Also, it is okay to quote passages from a work if the quotes are used in a review, etc. In fact it often says so on the verso... theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Mar 13 09:50:21 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:50:21 -0500 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: <3AADE44C.9752.71BAAD@localhost> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: => > Didn't Gary get that scar when someone went at him with a broken beer => > glass in a bar? Let's just say it means he has to trade on his music, => > not his looks. :-) => > => Geez, his music's not THAT bad! Hey, I'll fess up and admit I *like* Gazza's music! => > (Moore-related tidbit/observation: has anyone else noticed that Jimmy => > Herring's guitar work on live versions of "Loan Me a Dime" sounds a => > dead ringer for Gary Moore?) => > => I haven't heard it, but my only criticism of Jimmy's playing is that => sometimes he treads a bit too close to his influences, esp. Jeff => Beck [at least in his work with ARU] which isn't a bad thing. I've => only seen him live once, and that was with ARU, and he is a brother => from another planet! I caught him twice with the Allmans last year, and both shows were superb! (The first gig was actually the first one of the tour, and he was making his debut under hostile circumstances.) I'm sad to see him leave for Phil & Friends, actually. (Jimmy and Derek with the ABB floats my boat a lot more than Jimmy and Warren with Phil & Friends.) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Mar 13 09:03:23 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:03:23 EDT Subject: OFF: Gary Moore, Jimmy Herring In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 13 Mar 2001, at 9:50, Paul Mather wrote: > > Hey, I'll fess up and admit I *like* Gazza's music! > I do too, really. Didn't like the 'blues' albums as much as the shredder stuff, esp. when he had old blues masters sitting in on his records. I hear he's really hard to get along with, which might help explain the dueling scar! [on Jimmy Herring] > I caught him twice with the Allmans last year, and both shows were > superb! (The first gig was actually the first one of the tour, and he > was making his debut under hostile circumstances.) I'm sad to see him > leave for Phil & Friends, actually. (Jimmy and Derek with the ABB > floats my boat a lot more than Jimmy and Warren with Phil & Friends.) > I had to miss the ABB last year so didn't get to hear that lineup, though I bet Jimmy and Derek are a great team. What's the ABB lineup now, Warren and Derek, at least for a few shows? theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 13 10:08:55 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 01:38:55 +1030 Subject: channell 4 Message-ID: Just recieved a copy of the channell 4 broadcast Had a great laugh after seeing myself gleefully cramming either a brownie or hash cake down my gob - funny stuff..... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Mar 13 10:16:10 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:16:10 -0600 Subject: holy hawkwind batman In-Reply-To: <000801c0aba8$9e814020$05cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: :Subject: holy hawkwind batman : :what does the subject have to do with this message : :not much : :but now that I have yo attention can someone please answer this? : :is the IRC thingy needed for the upcoming chat the software I'm currently downloading now: :ITS mirc582t.exe :from the :mIRC homepage? : :Duh - Am I right or wong : :Thanks space-guys an space-gals Michael, Yep. you can use mIRC. There are irc clients for damn near every computing platform out there, and a bunch of irc-to-http gateways out there or java irc clients for those that want to stick with a web browser only. Arin (looking forward to the chat) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 6 14:05:50 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:05:50 -0000 Subject: footage Message-ID: RE: footageSpoke to one of our customers today who was at the gig at which the Hawlords stuff was shot in '78 and he reckons that it was an Italian TV crew who filmed the whole concert Now that outs the cat among the pigeons - after all in the '70's there were Italian film crews all over Europe shooting everything in sight, as it were. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: Colm McWilliams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:05 PM Subject: Re: footage Steve, Very encouraging news. Thank you for enquiring on all our behalves. Surely the Hawkwind camp can get the rights and hopefully release the footage. Maybe as a fan club/passport holders thing? Does anyone out there know where this footage was shot? Especially the Hawklords stuff? cheers colm -----Original Message----- From: Steve Litchfield [mailto:slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK] Sent: 06 March 2001 12:48 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: footage I had a response from Chrysalis: "I am happy to try and get the contact details you require but could you be more specific as to the clips you are interested in as there is a great deal of different material included in the programme. Also all the material has been paid for by chrysalis on a licensed basis so if you want to acquire any clips shown in the programme they would be subject to a fee from the respective licensee. I hope to hear from you again soon." At the same time, Kris (HW) contacted me to say that they're in direct touch with Debbie, the main film researcher, and that HW themselves will try and arrange for further distribution. 8-)))) Go, go, go, Kris! The overriding most interesting question is whether the clips shown (esp. Urban G/Orgone/Stacia) are just about all that exists or whether they're taken from a much longer film segment. Steve Litchfield *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. 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Grakkl (FAA) From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Mar 13 10:48:58 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:48:58 EDT Subject: OFF: Motorhead/Ozzy In-Reply-To: <200103131638.LAA07310@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On 13 Mar 2001, at 11:27, K Henderson wrote: > >On 13 Mar 2001, at 8:31, Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > > > >> Gary Moore - the man described by Ozzy as "If he had a face like a > >> welders bench it'd be better than the one he's got now". > >> > >Amazing! Of course this from a guy who has 'o-z-z-y' tattooed on his > >knuckles. Must have thought it was an improvement, or maybe it was > >just to help him remember his name? > > Wouldn't that remind him he was YZZO, though? > Hmm..well, maybe on Ozzy's home world, everything's inverted, kind of like the Bizzaro planet? theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Tue Mar 6 14:20:42 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:20:42 +0100 Subject: footage In-Reply-To: <010201c0a673$3c8e9140$430fbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Hi folks Have not seen the footage yet, but I suppose that the HAWKLORDS clip is from the Uxbridge gig (24.11.1978) It is mentioned by Kris Tait in the book THIS IS HAWKWIND DO NOT PANIC. She says: "....on the last night of the tour, at a small University gig, the act was filmed on video, recording it for posterity..." Indeed the last HAWKLORDS gig was at the Uxbridge University. And I am rather sure that the HAWKLORDS LIVE CD is from the same gig Bernhard From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Mar 6 13:17:36 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:17:36 -0000 Subject: FW: top ten prog show Message-ID: Yes lets have as much footage with Stacia as possible lol ;-) Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" To: Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: Re: FW: top ten prog show > technically - all of EMI - start saving!!!! > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Swann" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 12:35 AM > Subject: Re: FW: top ten prog show > > > > On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:37:02AM +0000, Michael Crook wrote: > > > KHENN BAALOWE!! > > > > > > Well that prog, answered a few questions did'nt it? > > > Yes there is COLOUR footage of Ritual > > > and Yes there was a film to accompany 'Urban Guerilla' > > > This was amazing - seeing Stacia in full flight, Dave in his 'Meliadus' > tshirt and a long haired Bob singing 'Urban Guerilla', 'Orgone Accumulator' > and the Hawklords doing 'PSI Power' > > > THE FOOTAGE IS OUT THERE > > > > This _must_ be gotten hold of, and put out as a vid. > > > > Ok, who do we have to bribe? > > > > Steve > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Mar 13 13:49:55 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:49:55 -0000 Subject: OFF: Moorcock Books For Sale(Nearly Everything) Message-ID: ;-) In order to boost my I can't be arsed with England need to fly to the southern hemisphere and never come back and spend a many month watching whales fighting fund. I'm selling my Moorcock Library. Theres alot I think around 80 books(I'll have to count), everything from bog standard paperbacks, hardbacks, some authographed, some obscure stuff, and a PAL VHS copy of Final Programme, odds and ends of new worlds etc. 13 years of collecting...sniff.. If anyones interested email me offlist, i'll compile a list. I'm not even sure what to suggest as a price lol, its like an instant almost complete Moorcock Collection, it's like a bad Monty Python Sketch. I want to sell as a collection rather than split. So it'll be a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig parcel. The lengths people got to to raise airfare. Every Little Helps. Rich W From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Mar 13 14:56:57 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:56:57 -0500 Subject: digest? & collectables Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:20:40 EST, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > >In a message dated 3/12/01 2:11:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, >ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > >> I know for a fact that US vinyl >> pressings of 'Hawklords/25 Years On' still run about US$5. > >Yeah, I'm surprised at how many times I've come across this one. Seems like >one of the more common Hawk-vinyls in the States. And several have been >white-label promos at that! You've actually found one that's NOT a promo? Obviously, Phonogram (the US distributors for Charisma at the time) put some real degree of effort into promoting the thing (given the tons of promo copies, plus the fact that there were both "Psi Power" 7"s & 12"s in the US ... anyone got a copy of the former with the edit-of-the-edit for me?), but were unable to sell any (it was a bad time, remember that in '78 the record industry was starting to go through a major slump that lasted until 'Thriller' in 82 or 83). Kind of a sad story, but a good demonstration of the fact that anyone releasing Hawkwind albums in the USA *isn't* doing it for the money. > (I think I might still have an extra, if anyone's interested). Me, too ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Mar 13 16:45:44 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:45:44 -0000 Subject: HW: Fairies (Sweeties for sale) Message-ID: Hi, Anybody interested in purchasing a vinyl copy (Polydor) of Pink Fairies' - What A Bunch Of Sweeties LP. Gatefold sleeve. Please e-mail me at jeremy at dacombe.fsnet.co.uk for further details or offer. Cheers, Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Mar 12 13:45:47 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:45:47 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! Message-ID: LOL HMV Japan had a copy of Quark when I looked. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "colm mcwilliams" To: Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 2:40 PM Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1415820846 > > buy it now for $110.00!!!!! > > bloody hell!!! > > and another one...... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1415576118 > > Hawkwind QuarkStrangeness&charm RARE Album CD > Item #1415576118 > > > buy it now for $110.00!!!!! > > why can't the hawkwind camp re-license these and put them out again? > > i heard a while back that EBS was planning to re-release them. Is this still > going to happen? > > > colm > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Mar 13 17:02:06 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:02:06 -0500 Subject: HW: Fairies (Sweeties for sale) Message-ID: Damn! 'Never Never Land' is the one I need (preferably w/outer vinyl jacket; or 'Kings of Oblivian' with the original photos insert). Oh well ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:45:44 -0000, J D wrote: >Anybody interested in purchasing a vinyl copy (Polydor) of >Pink Fairies' - What A Bunch Of Sweeties LP. >Gatefold sleeve. From swann at CUGC.ORG Tue Mar 13 17:05:39 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:05:39 -0500 Subject: HW: House ? In-Reply-To: ; from Andy Gilham on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 07:57:47PM -0000 Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 07:57:47PM -0000, Andy Gilham wrote: > I've chased Simon but with no luck as yet... I think he was taken aback by > the number of questions - we ran the call for questions in the run-up to the > reunion gig, and the site was extremely busy then. Be patient - it took > about 18 months to get the Liquid Len interview up after all!! Simon seems like a shy guy, too. My wife and I cornered him to autograph his CD at the Limelight show a few years back, and he seemed a little bewildered to find out that he had fans. :) Steve From swann at CUGC.ORG Tue Mar 13 17:12:29 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:12:29 -0500 Subject: Thrilling Adventures!! In-Reply-To: <200103090820.JAA28672@mail.home.ins.de>; from Bernhard Pospiech on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 09:18:36AM +0100 Message-ID: Hey Berhard, is your live gigs listing available for download anywhere? And I know this is a lot to ask, but have you rated the sound quality of those tapes? :) Steve On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 09:18:36AM +0100, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > Hi Kevin > > At 16:05 08.03.2001 -0700, you wrote: > >'Magnu' with Paul Rudolph-----now, THAT I'd like to hear. > > ...to be found on the following tapes: > > 18.09.1976, MANCHESTER, PALACE THEATRE, 95/6 > intro / reefer madness / paradox / instrumental / back on the streets / > chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / brainstorm I / right stuff / > brainstorm II / wind of change / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time > for sale / sonic attack / kerb crawler / magnu / paranoia / master of the > universe > > 02.10.1976, IPSWICH, GAUMONT, 85/6 > intro / reefer madness / paradox / chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / > brainstorm / wind of change / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for > sale / back on the streets / sonic attack / kerb crawler / jam / magnu / > master of the universe / welcome > > 04.10.1976, LEICESTER, DE MONTFORT HALL, 100/5 > intro / reefer madness / paradox / chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / > brainstorm / right stuff / wind of change / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on > mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack / kerb crawler / > magnu / master of the universe / welcome > > 05.10.1976, LONDON, HAMMERSMITH ODEON, 90/7 > reefer madness / paradox / chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / brainstorm > / right stuff / wind of change / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time > for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack / kerb crawler / magnu / > master of the universe / welcome > > > cheers > Bernhard From Mariej at BIGWIG.NET Tue Mar 13 17:26:08 2001 From: Mariej at BIGWIG.NET (Marie Jenkinson) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:26:08 -0000 Subject: HW:Damnation Alley Message-ID: As Damnation Alley was the topic of conversation a few weeks ago, I thought you may be interested in this bit of info. Whilst ordering with the Simon and Schuster rep today, imagine my surprise to see those words - 'Damnation Alley' by Roger Zelazny - long out of print in the UK and US, in the June new titles folder. It's published by ibooks, a U.S. publisher that distributes over here via Harper Collins. I think the price was ?6.99, but I'm not sure. Hopefully it's better than the film??? Cheers Marie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Mar 13 17:42:57 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:42:57 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! In-Reply-To: <003601c0ab24$b6e04fa0$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: yeah and so does tower records and www.cdzone.co.uk and a whole host of other online cd stores. But the crunch comes when you try to order it. You get a message saying that they have none in stock and will try to contact the suppliers to get some more. Then you wait a while and receive another email telling you that the cd is discontinued and they can't get you a copy. :-( Colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Rich Warren Sent: 12 March 2001 18:46 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! LOL HMV Japan had a copy of Quark when I looked. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "colm mcwilliams" To: Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 2:40 PM Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1415820846 > > buy it now for $110.00!!!!! > > bloody hell!!! > > and another one...... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1415576118 > > Hawkwind QuarkStrangeness&charm RARE Album CD > Item #1415576118 > > > buy it now for $110.00!!!!! > > why can't the hawkwind camp re-license these and put them out again? > > i heard a while back that EBS was planning to re-release them. Is this still > going to happen? > > > colm > From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Mar 13 17:54:52 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:54:52 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , colm mcwilliams writes >yeah and so does tower records and www.cdzone.co.uk and a whole host of >other online cd stores. But the crunch comes when you try to order it. You >get a message saying that they have none in stock and will try to contact >the suppliers to get some more. Then you wait a while and receive another >email telling you that the cd is discontinued and they can't get you a copy. It intrigues me that online stores can get away with this. About 2 months ago it was mentioned on-list that cdparadise.com were carrying 'Alien 4'- well I ordered it, still waiting, so I think it's safe to assume it won't be forthcoming. Meanwhile, Jungle took 4 months to admit they couldn't get hold of a couple of CDs... 4 months! Surely they don't use THAT many suppliers? So anyone know where I can get Alien 4 and/or Love In Space? -- Nick Medford From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 13 18:35:50 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:35:50 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! Message-ID: sadly for all customers, that is the way of CD retail but I do hope that when we get our official website running we will not keep on things that are clearly unavailable - I imagine that with the tens of thousands of items the likes of the huge online retailers have onsite that it is pretty well impossible to keep up with what happens, bearing in mind that the companies world-wide delete CD's on a large scale on a weekly basis. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "colm mcwilliams" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:42 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! > yeah and so does tower records and www.cdzone.co.uk and a whole host of > other online cd stores. But the crunch comes when you try to order it. You > get a message saying that they have none in stock and will try to contact > the suppliers to get some more. Then you wait a while and receive another > email telling you that the cd is discontinued and they can't get you a copy. > > > > :-( > > Colm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Rich Warren > Sent: 12 March 2001 18:46 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! > > > LOL HMV Japan had a copy of Quark when I looked. > > Rich W > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "colm mcwilliams" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 2:40 PM > Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1415820846 > > > > buy it now for $110.00!!!!! > > > > bloody hell!!! > > > > and another one...... > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1415576118 > > > > Hawkwind QuarkStrangeness&charm RARE Album CD > > Item #1415576118 > > > > > > buy it now for $110.00!!!!! > > > > why can't the hawkwind camp re-license these and put them out again? > > > > i heard a while back that EBS was planning to re-release them. Is this > still > > going to happen? > > > > > > colm > > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Mar 13 18:16:55 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:16:55 EST Subject: HW: Hawklords LPs Message-ID: In a message dated 3/13/01 11:57:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > You've actually found one that's NOT a promo? Obviously, Phonogram (the US > distributors for Charisma at the time) put some real degree of effort into > promoting the thing (given the tons of promo copies, Actually, I guess they _all_ might have been promos, leading me to think that was the proper release. Sigh...so much for thinking I had a Hawkwind rarity... Chuck From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 13 18:49:39 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:49:39 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! Message-ID: no - you are right - if someone orders something from CDS that we know is not available they can be told right away. The problem comes when a record company does not delete an item but that item is out of print - yuo never know if the company will repress or not, so you keep the order going to se what happens. We have had oprders on the go for up to 8 months (at the request of the customers I might add) only for that item to turn up as a repress suddenly appears out of the blue. It is not the customer's fault but there is one hell of a lot of ambiguity around worldwide when it comes to ordering CD's and too many times the companies just refuse to deleted something that they know they are not going to repress or fail to announce a deletion so that every wholesaler and importer exporter keeps it on the database. Believe me, things can get incredibly complex - Akien 4 and even 'Love In Space' dbl CD are not classed as deleted but yo try ordering them from a normal new CD retailer. Any questions anyone??? Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:54 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! > In message t.co.uk>, colm mcwilliams > writes > >yeah and so does tower records and www.cdzone.co.uk and a whole host of > >other online cd stores. But the crunch comes when you try to order it. You > >get a message saying that they have none in stock and will try to contact > >the suppliers to get some more. Then you wait a while and receive another > >email telling you that the cd is discontinued and they can't get you a copy. > > It intrigues me that online stores can get away with this. About 2 months > ago it was mentioned on-list that cdparadise.com were carrying 'Alien 4'- > well I ordered it, still waiting, so I think it's safe to assume it won't be > forthcoming. Meanwhile, Jungle took 4 months to admit they couldn't get > hold of a couple of CDs... 4 months! Surely they don't use THAT many > suppliers? > > So anyone know where I can get Alien 4 and/or Love In Space? > -- > Nick Medford From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue Mar 13 19:14:51 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:14:51 -0500 Subject: HW: IRC Chat Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS h?WK?????t Test on IRC Dalnet Channel Now Complete All crew members can now log on to IRC DALNET Channel #Hawkwind.org.uk at any time for live chat with other Hawkfans. The band will also be using this channel for occasional online chats, which will be announced on Mission Control and the mailing lists.... A copy of the irc client mIRC can be obtained from www.mirc.com A highly customised Hawkwind version will be available for download from Mission Control shortly. Helpfiles for the irc site will also be available. ++MESSAGE ENDS From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Mar 13 19:26:23 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:26:23 EST Subject: HW:Damnation Alley Message-ID: In a message dated 3/13/01 5:23:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Mariej at BIGWIG.NET writes: > As Damnation Alley was the topic of conversation a few weeks ago, I thought > you may be interested in this bit of info. > Whilst ordering with the Simon and Schuster rep today, imagine my surprise > to see those words - 'Damnation Alley' by Roger Zelazny - long out of print > in the UK and US, in the June new titles folder. > It's published by ibooks, a U.S. publisher that distributes over here via > Harper Collins. I think the price was ?6.99, but I'm not sure. > Hopefully it's better than the film??? > > I read the book after seeing the movie, and I feel that it is FAR BETTER than the film. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Mar 13 19:36:30 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:36:30 EST Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! Message-ID: In a message dated 3/13/01 5:56:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > So anyone know where I can get Alien 4 and/or Love In Space? > -- > Well, CDZone (www.cdzone.co.uk) has Alien 4 listed . . . Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Mar 13 19:55:23 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 00:55:23 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Joe Loehr writes > In a message dated 3/13/01 5:56:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > > >> So anyone know where I can get Alien 4 and/or Love In Space? >Well, CDZone (www.cdzone.co.uk) has Alien 4 listed . . . Hmm... I think I've become too sceptical to try that source, especially after reading Andy's exposition of how these things work. If Alien 4 is out of print, then presumably CDZone won't be able to get it, any more than any other online retailers. I think I'm gonna have to wait for a 2nd hand copy to come up- they usually do in the end... I suppose I could try emailing CDZone to inquire about availability before I order, but I suspect they'd just say 'if it's on the website, we can get it... hopefully'- and only after the order is placed will they discover they can't. Cheers for the pointer anyway -- Nick Medford From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 13 20:39:59 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:09:59 +1030 Subject: HW: House ? Message-ID: >> > Simon seems like a shy guy, too. My wife and I cornered him to > autograph his CD at the Limelight show a few years back, and he seemed > a little bewildered to find out that he had fans. :) I've allready got the answers to most of the questions I asked him Since they were all asked way before the Brixton show I now know that Yes he will be at the Brixton concert Cause eee was there 8>)B ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Swann To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:35 AM Subject: Re: HW: House ? > On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 07:57:47PM -0000, Andy Gilham wrote: > > I've chased Simon but with no luck as yet... I think he was taken aback by > > the number of questions - we ran the call for questions in the run-up to the > > reunion gig, and the site was extremely busy then. Be patient - it took > > about 18 months to get the Liquid Len interview up after all!! > > Simon seems like a shy guy, too. My wife and I cornered him to > autograph his CD at the Limelight show a few years back, and he seemed > a little bewildered to find out that he had fans. :) > > Steve From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 13 20:42:19 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:12:19 +1030 Subject: HW: IRC Chat Message-ID: Thanks Mate Geroovy Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Rx To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:44 AM Subject: Re: HW: IRC Chat > ++STAR WARRIORS > > h?WK?????t Test on IRC Dalnet Channel Now Complete > > All crew members can now log on to IRC DALNET Channel > #Hawkwind.org.uk at any time for live chat with other Hawkfans. > The band will also be using this channel for occasional online chats, > which will be announced on Mission Control and the mailing lists.... > > A copy of the irc client mIRC can be obtained from www.mirc.com > A highly customised Hawkwind version will be available for download from > Mission Control shortly. Helpfiles for the irc site will also be available. > > ++MESSAGE ENDS From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Mar 13 21:03:19 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:03:19 -0600 Subject: HW: (off) Mckeehan/one little private statement In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010314125925.01af93f0@easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: to any concerned party.... I have been a VERY VERY bad Hawkfan... now Darrin McKeehan is emabarrased about my reply to him..... I'm sorry Darrin, and everyone thats waited on me...some for 3 years...John Gray....I'm have you in mind....also Lorne (God bless you man...BUT WAIT! YOU ARE GOD!) I'm an ass, if I get treated like one I deserve it.....and I pray that god gives me the strenghth to not be a joke one day... My sharp words hide the true inabability to function, and that nasty problem, depression.... Mike Coleman PS -I'm not the Devil, just a shy human being that needs his mommy to hold his hand..... From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Mar 13 23:08:07 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:08:07 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawklords LP's PROMO vs STOCK... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >In a message dated 3/13/01 11:57:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, >ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > >> You've actually found one that's NOT a promo? Obviously, Phonogram (the US >> distributors for Charisma at the time) put some real degree of effort into >> promoting the thing (given the tons of promo copies, > since Doug said (to me privately), that one thing about me is I do know HW stuff....I'll bump in here and say.....there are 3 different pressing runs of the stock copy (which is MUCH RARER than the promo) there are 2 different pressing runs of the promo that I know of....possibly 3 on this as well.....the second one I have is VERY RARE and the gold embossed promo emblem on the back is different to most you will find..... another difference between all these is the darkness and texture of the printing on the covers......some are very dark and beautful...(if you like that cover!!!) in the USA, promos are not a big deal, as in many cases with Hawkwind, especially the 45's...they made lots, but didn't actually press many stocks!!! just try to find the stock "Kings Of Speed" WITH Motorhead......VERY RARE... I have 2 different versions of this...I suspect there's at least 3.... It's all so insane and beautiful..... PS..on the other hand....if you get promos/demo copies of British LP's...you have truly got a rarity.... ok....back to my corner mike c From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Mar 13 23:21:35 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:21:35 EST Subject: HW: off/one little private statement, before many Message-ID: In a message dated 3/13/01 9:02:39 PM, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: << My sharp words hide the true inabability to function, and that nasty problem, depression.... Mike Coleman >> ==== hush, you, it's alright. no need to prostrate yourself on the floor here, amigo. let it be, as madre mary said. "<>" class of 'gone dead train', 99 From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 00:11:19 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 05:11:19 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've seen Alien 4 recently in tower records in picadilly london if that helps? colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Joe Loehr Sent: 14 March 2001 00:37 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! In a message dated 3/13/01 5:56:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: So anyone know where I can get Alien 4 and/or Love In Space? -- Well, CDZone (www.cdzone.co.uk) has Alien 4 listed . . . Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Hajo.Steffen at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Mar 14 00:14:18 2001 From: Hajo.Steffen at T-ONLINE.DE (HAJO STEFFEN) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 06:14:18 +0100 Subject: BOC: The Thing! cover. Message-ID: Hi Brad, - just a short notice: I?ve send an email to the german adress you gave me (for sending a copy of "the thing"), but there wasn?t any reaction yet. Do you have "sctual" contact to him? Any idea how to do this successful? Kind regards, HAJO Brad M. Lauchnor schrieb: > Go to my new BOC page (just started) and get the cover art for The Thing. > Left click to view or right click to save. > > http://www.geocities.com/occultnitude/bocpage.html From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Mar 13 13:56:26 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:56:26 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 100 Album Covers Message-ID: In one of the papers today there was a top 100 album covers thing, and Space Ritual was in the top 50 with it's own picture. ;-) The paper was flashed at me by a work colleague, and I was trying to do 50 things at once so I missed exactly which paper it was. Rich W rich.warren at btinternet.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Mar 14 02:07:56 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:07:56 -0500 Subject: HW: (non)-availability Message-ID: Nick sed... >It intrigues me that online stores can get away with this. "This" being publishing (esp. online, but also in print) ridiculously inflated catalogues of stuff that they have no intention of keeping in stock, and for which they really have no idea (until an order comes in) whether they can actually attain for you. The answer is...they get away with it only if people keep ordering from them. Personally, I put up with this exactly once, and then I recognise them for what they are, and they are on my shitlist thereafter. I search GEMM.com regularly, and invariably whenever a particular title comes in with 8 or so responses, I can bet that 6 of them are the same group of vendors (allstars is one that claims to offer *everything*...there are others) that are worthless dead ends (well, I never actually *tried* allstars, esp. since they're in Europe...but I can guess the outcome)...and overpriced to boot. Of course, I just put in an order (which I fully expected to end up as it did) with cdnow.com for Weird #6, and the backorder lasted about 10 days before the order was outright cancelled. And so now the question is....who the hell *has* Weird #6 (if anybody) in the US. www.cdnow.com *had* been able to get a few rare-ish things for me in the past (even with the wait), but obviously not this rare one. So, what's the deal with this one, anyway? Why is it already deleted and ridiculously hard to find when it's only been out about 6 months? Did they print fewer copies, or is it just so much more fabulous than the others? I'm baffled. Grakkl (FAA) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Mar 14 02:30:35 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 01:30:35 -0600 Subject: HW: (non)-availability/ delay punishment In-Reply-To: <200103140718.CAA20057@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: >Grakkl (FAA) wafted through espace: (re: weird 6) So, what's the deal with this one, anyway? Why is it already deleted and >ridiculously hard to find when it's only been out about 6 months? Did they >print fewer copies, or is it just so much more fabulous than the others? >I'm baffled. > It's because Dave wants full-total commitment and dedication, and when we try to split our attention /funds between HW and Pearl Jam,,,,,we get punished... Sorry....I just can't help make a joke... bye mc From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed Mar 14 02:40:11 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:40:11 -0000 Subject: HW:Damnation Alley Message-ID: Well, I've read the book and haven't seen the film yet (sitting on video waiting). If the book's better, then the film must be truly, truly awful. I love Zelazny's Amber series, but Damnation Alley must be one of the worst written books of all times. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Jenkinson To: Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:26 PM Subject: HW:Damnation Alley As Damnation Alley was the topic of conversation a few weeks ago, I thought you may be interested in this bit of info. Whilst ordering with the Simon and Schuster rep today, imagine my surprise to see those words - 'Damnation Alley' by Roger Zelazny - long out of print in the UK and US, in the June new titles folder. It's published by ibooks, a U.S. publisher that distributes over here via Harper Collins. I think the price was ?6.99, but I'm not sure. Hopefully it's better than the film??? Cheers Marie From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 03:04:36 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 03:04:36 -0500 Subject: HW:Hawkwind UK Tour Message-ID: Hw, Any UK tour must include a show in the Liverpool area; there are a number of venues of different types that may be of interest. In Liverpool there is: Empire Theatre - fully seated, great stage but the atmosphere could be a little bit laid back (capacity 2000+) Royal Court - standing downstairs, seated upstairs; much better atmosphere capacity (1000+) Lomax/L2 - club venue, great atmosphere; don't know the capacity but some fairly decent bands have played there Liverpool University - haven't been there for years but they have at least two venues; one is a fairly large hall, the other is like a bar. Recent bookings include Eat Static, ICU played the bar venue years ago In Warrington there is; Parr Hall - standing downstairs and a small seating area upstairs; you played there a few years ago with Poisoned Electrik Head In Widnes there is; Queens Hall - similar to Parr Hall, can get more information if required Spike Island - potential venue for an outdoor show, remember the Stone Roses years ago? Ther are also venues in New Brighton and Southport (nice beach resorts!?!?). If you would like any further information on any of the venues give me a shout. Mark From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Mar 14 02:59:35 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:59:35 -0500 Subject: HW:Damnation Alley In-Reply-To: <00d201c0ac5a$01c9a440$176aa8c0@alien8.co.uk> Message-ID: At 07:40 AM 3/14/01 -0000, Kevin Perry wrote: >Well, I've read the book and haven't seen the film yet (sitting on video >waiting). If the book's better, then the film must be truly, truly awful. >I love Zelazny's Amber series, but Damnation Alley must be one of the worst >written books of all times. Hrm? It was based on a shorter story, novella length, that got lengthened into novel length to set up the movie deal (at the request of Zelazny's agent IIRC). Not sure why they bothered having him do that as they didn't use much of the book at all. Worst ever written? Zelazny's had far better (Lord of Light, This Immortal, The Dream Master, etc) but DA he pretty much set out to do something and then did it pretty well straightforward. While I agree with Z's statement that the novella was better, I can surely find worse things even sticking only to Zelazny's own stuff... What specifically did you dislike about it? It's hard to take up a contrary position without much to base it against. As matter of simple refute, though, I'll offer up "Madwand", "Dilvish the Damned" or any of number of other non-Amber fantasies by Zelazny. Heck, some would argue you could just as easily toss "Prine of Chaos" or the entire "Merlin" series in there as well (I am not one of these). I enjoyed DA. Didn't take it for what it wasn't. Remember this predates Mad Max, Car Wars, and most cheesy movies of that genre that have followed it. Not sure whether this predates ADF's "Why Johnny Can't Speed". If it was science that bothered you, Zelazny has always been a very unscientific SF writer, at least in terms of hard physical sciences. He does his work in the "soft" sciences, psychology (you can line up the entire house of amber as straight Jungian archetypes and mythology especially. Sorry to digress, but when you say "worst written books of all time" you gotta expect some flak on it. I would stand by the statement that "Lord of Light" is one of the best written books of all time. ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Wed Mar 14 03:05:00 2001 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:05:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Top 100 Album Covers In-Reply-To: <00b601c0abef$502f8980$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: I think it was in Q. >In one of the papers today there was a top 100 album covers thing, and Space >Ritual was in the top 50 with it's own picture. ;-) >The paper was flashed at me by a work colleague, and I was trying to do 50 >things at once so I missed exactly which paper it was. > >Rich W > >rich.warren at btinternet.com ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed Mar 14 03:19:45 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:19:45 -0000 Subject: HW:Damnation Alley Message-ID: It felt to me that it was written by about a 10 year old. The description of when Hell Tanner meets the girl (it's been a while since I read it and I can't recall names) is just incredibly bad for example and stands out as the worst piece of characterisation ever: "... Her favourite colour was green" I mean...kindergarten stuff or what? Bad science is OK as long as it doesn't take itself too seriously - I don't think RZ does, which is OK. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Apold To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 7:59 AM Subject: Re: HW:Damnation Alley > At 07:40 AM 3/14/01 -0000, Kevin Perry wrote: > >Well, I've read the book and haven't seen the film yet (sitting on video > >waiting). If the book's better, then the film must be truly, truly awful. > >I love Zelazny's Amber series, but Damnation Alley must be one of the worst > >written books of all times. > > Hrm? It was based on a shorter story, novella length, that got lengthened > into novel length to set up the movie deal (at the request of Zelazny's agent > IIRC). Not sure why they bothered having him do that as they didn't use much > of the book at all. > > Worst ever written? Zelazny's had far better (Lord of Light, This Immortal, > The Dream Master, etc) but DA he pretty much set out to do something and > then did it pretty well straightforward. While I agree with Z's statement > that > the novella was better, I can surely find worse things even sticking only to > Zelazny's own stuff... What specifically did you dislike about it? It's > hard to take up a contrary position without much to base it against. As > matter > of simple refute, though, I'll offer up "Madwand", "Dilvish the Damned" or any > of number of other non-Amber fantasies by Zelazny. Heck, some would argue you > could just as easily toss "Prine of Chaos" or the entire "Merlin" series in > there as well (I am not one of these). > > I enjoyed DA. Didn't take it for what it wasn't. Remember this predates > Mad Max, Car Wars, and most cheesy movies of that genre that have followed > it. Not > sure whether this predates ADF's "Why Johnny Can't Speed". > > If it was science that bothered you, Zelazny has always been a very > unscientific > SF writer, at least in terms of hard physical sciences. He does his work > in the > "soft" sciences, psychology (you can line up the entire house of amber as > straight > Jungian archetypes and mythology especially. > > Sorry to digress, but when you say "worst written books of all time" you > gotta > expect some flak on it. > > I would stand by the statement that "Lord of Light" is one of the best written > books of all time. > ============================= > "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to > be subject to the works of those mighty > among dreamers." > > - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" > > Andrew Apold From sebastian at WELTON.DE Wed Mar 14 03:13:53 2001 From: sebastian at WELTON.DE (Sebastian Welton) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:13:53 +0100 Subject: SLOTERDIJK in streaming video (and other) Message-ID: > Live SLOTERDIJK can now be viewed on the internet courtesy of the Now I recognise this name...the last stop on the number 50 Metro before Isolatorweg in Amsterdam (I just happen to be working there at the moment :-) >There may be a big Hawkwind gig in Germany - no dates or confirmations >check out the tour page at the Mission Control I looked but I couldn't see anything, any further details anywhere else? Cheers, Seb From impointer at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 03:16:35 2001 From: impointer at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Ian=20Pointer?=) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:16:35 +0000 Subject: Alien 4 CD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I managed to get a copy of Alien 4 just after Christmas from a 'V.Shop' (they used to be 'Our Price') using their "V.Shop On Line" ordering system they have in the back of these shops. I simply did a search for Hawkwind, got about ten or so CDs. Alien 4 was listed in stock (about 14 copies were available) and it turned up three days later. I'm not sure if they still have it but happy hunting.. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Mar 14 03:28:53 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 03:28:53 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 3/10 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck 3/10 (5-8pm PST) 1.Simeon/Alchemysts-- "Hydrophobic" (ST'd) 2.Cosmic Couriers-- "Anabolic" (Other Places) 3.Vine Sweetland and the Forefathers of the New Millenium--excerpt (Light Shining in the Distance) 4.Triple 0-- "Part II: pour ne pas subir le chatment" (Crypto Sensus) 5.Fuxa-- "Standing Under Ue" (Accretion) 6.Spirits Burning-- "Beautiful Stealth, In a Church" (New Worlds By Design) 7.Silver Apples-- "I Have Known Love" (Contact) 8.Windy and Carl-- "Program" (Electronic Evocations: A Tribute to the Silver Apples) 9.Lithium X-mas-- "Swim to Mammy/Magnu" (Bad Karma) 10.Hawkwind-- "Time We Left" (Space Ritual 2) 11.F/i-- "Shallows Inlet of the Meadow" (Space Mantra) 12.Defender-- "Zipcode" (promo) 13.Census of Hallucinations-- "Stragon Cluin" (The 3rd Eye) 14.Escapade-- "Flat Fair" (Remembrance of Things Unknown) 15.Circle-- "Vesitorni/Kaupunginsairaala" (Pori) 16.Shalabi Effect-- "Mokoundi" (ST'd) 17.Part-- "Myrrh: Pax Interna" (Bloomington Electronic Music Coalition comp) 18.Ozric Tentacles-- "Feng Shui" (Jurassic Shift) 19.Zappa/Mothers-- "Underground Freak-out Music" (You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore Vol. 5) 20.Helios Creed-- "Nirbasion Annasion" (The Last Laugh) 21.Ashtray Navigations-- "Icing Sugar Ceiling Rain" (Serotonnin Ronin II comp) 22.Amon Duul II-- title track (Wolf City) 23.Anubian Lights--title track (Let Not the Flame Die Out) thanks, Chuck From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 14 04:35:07 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:05:07 +1030 Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! Message-ID: Same here - I ordered one as well as Warrior CD & quark - but alas I still wait I'll blab like a stoked up speed demon if they arrive anytime soon - OK! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: colm mcwilliams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! I've seen Alien 4 recently in tower records in picadilly london if that helps? colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Joe Loehr Sent: 14 March 2001 00:37 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! In a message dated 3/13/01 5:56:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: So anyone know where I can get Alien 4 and/or Love In Space? -- Well, CDZone (www.cdzone.co.uk) has Alien 4 listed . . . Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 14 04:56:24 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:26:24 +1030 Subject: Alien 4 CD Message-ID: do you have a url to this place sir? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Pointer To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Alien 4 CD > I managed to get a copy of Alien 4 just after > Christmas from a 'V.Shop' (they used to be 'Our > Price') using their "V.Shop On Line" ordering system > they have in the back of these shops. I simply did a > search for Hawkwind, got about ten or so CDs. Alien 4 > was listed in stock (about 14 copies were available) > and it turned up three days later. > > I'm not sure if they still have it but happy hunting.. > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Mar 14 05:34:20 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 05:34:20 -0500 Subject: HW: (non)-availability Message-ID: Which is why the one thing you should always look at in GEMM is the fill rate. An absolutely brilliant idea. Look at any shipper eg. me http://www.zeitgeist.gemm.com/ Scroll down to Performance and look at fill rate - mine is 94% If you've done a multiple item search click on the info link and you'll see the fill rate there. Stuart Nick sed... >It intrigues me that online stores can get away with this. "This" being publishing (esp. online, but also in print) ridiculously inflated catalogues of stuff that they have no intention of keeping in stock, and for which they really have no idea (until an order comes in) whether they can actually attain for you. The answer is...they get away with it only if people keep ordering from them. Personally, I put up with this exactly once, and then I recognise them for what they are, and they are on my shitlist thereafter. I search GEMM.com regularly, and invariably whenever a particular title comes in with 8 or so responses, I can bet that 6 of them are the same group of vendors (allstars is one that claims to offer *everything*...there are others) that are worthless dead ends (well, I never actually *tried* allstars, esp. since they're in Europe...but I can guess the outcome)...and overpriced to boot. Of course, I just put in an order (which I fully expected to end up as it did) with cdnow.com for Weird #6, and the backorder lasted about 10 days before the order was outright cancelled. And so now the question is....who the hell *has* Weird #6 (if anybody) in the US. www.cdnow.com *had* been able to get a few rare-ish things for me in the past (even with the wait), but obviously not this rare one. So, what's the deal with this one, anyway? Why is it already deleted and ridiculously hard to find when it's only been out about 6 months? Did they print fewer copies, or is it just so much more fabulous than the others? I'm baffled. Grakkl (FAA) From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Mar 14 06:17:37 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 05:17:37 -0600 Subject: HW: (non)-availability Message-ID: Tentacles of Erpland may have Weird #6,Do you need a address for him. It may be on a HAWKWIND cd under American Hawktales. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Zeitgeist [mailto:stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 4:34 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: (non)-availability Which is why the one thing you should always look at in GEMM is the fill rate. An absolutely brilliant idea. Look at any shipper eg. me http://www.zeitgeist.gemm.com/ Scroll down to Performance and look at fill rate - mine is 94% If you've done a multiple item search click on the info link and you'll see the fill rate there. Stuart Nick sed... >It intrigues me that online stores can get away with this. "This" being publishing (esp. online, but also in print) ridiculously inflated catalogues of stuff that they have no intention of keeping in stock, and for which they really have no idea (until an order comes in) whether they can actually attain for you. The answer is...they get away with it only if people keep ordering from them. Personally, I put up with this exactly once, and then I recognise them for what they are, and they are on my shitlist thereafter. I search GEMM.com regularly, and invariably whenever a particular title comes in with 8 or so responses, I can bet that 6 of them are the same group of vendors (allstars is one that claims to offer *everything*...there are others) that are worthless dead ends (well, I never actually *tried* allstars, esp. since they're in Europe...but I can guess the outcome)...and overpriced to boot. Of course, I just put in an order (which I fully expected to end up as it did) with cdnow.com for Weird #6, and the backorder lasted about 10 days before the order was outright cancelled. And so now the question is....who the hell *has* Weird #6 (if anybody) in the US. www.cdnow.com *had* been able to get a few rare-ish things for me in the past (even with the wait), but obviously not this rare one. So, what's the deal with this one, anyway? Why is it already deleted and ridiculously hard to find when it's only been out about 6 months? Did they print fewer copies, or is it just so much more fabulous than the others? I'm baffled. Grakkl (FAA) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Mar 14 07:01:28 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 06:01:28 -0600 Subject: HW: weird availability??? In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6CEE@HERMES> Message-ID: >Tentacles of Erpland may have Weird #6,Do you need a address for him. It may >be on a HAWKWIND cd under American Hawktales. STEPHE good point! I thought of that too.......good 'ol Jim and Carol Collins..... my old Nik Turner travel Texas bro..........they probably DO have them all..... they're email is: CCollins54 at aol.com good luck m From m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK Wed Mar 14 07:10:26 2001 From: m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK (Merrick Martin French) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:10:26 +0000 Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival Message-ID: Jill, We're in the planning stage at the moment but will plan in a taxi service if its needed. love, light and peace Merrick French From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Mar 14 07:53:52 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 06:53:52 -0600 Subject: HW: weird availability??? Message-ID: I got all the weird tapes off him,in fact,he may have all the voiceprint releases.Last time I talked to him his computer had crashed so he may not get email.STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Mike Coleman [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 6:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: weird availability??? >Tentacles of Erpland may have Weird #6,Do you need a address for him. It may >be on a HAWKWIND cd under American Hawktales. STEPHE good point! I thought of that too.......good 'ol Jim and Carol Collins..... my old Nik Turner travel Texas bro..........they probably DO have them all..... they're email is: CCollins54 at aol.com good luck m From impointer at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 08:17:23 2001 From: impointer at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Ian=20Pointer?=) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:17:23 +0000 Subject: Alien 4 CD In-Reply-To: <005b01c0ac6d$0802fc40$d7cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: I'm afraid not - I think its their internal ordering system. You might be able to access via virgin.com. Ian --- Michael W Blackman wrote: > do you have a url to this place sir? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ian Pointer > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: Alien 4 CD > > > > I managed to get a copy of Alien 4 just after > > Christmas from a 'V.Shop' (they used to be 'Our > > Price') using their "V.Shop On Line" ordering > system > > they have in the back of these shops. I simply did > a > > search for Hawkwind, got about ten or so CDs. > Alien 4 > > was listed in stock (about 14 copies were > available) > > and it turned up three days later. > > > > I'm not sure if they still have it but happy > hunting.. > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at > http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Mar 14 08:28:43 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:28:43 -0500 Subject: OFF: Govt Mule Message-ID: THE MULE TRAIN ROLLS Government Mule, the American blues-rock trio, will hit the road at the end of this month to play a handful of US shows. This will be the first time the band have stepped into the spotlight since the death last year of bassist Allen Woody. The Mule will use Dave Schools of Widespread Panic for this brief trek, although he will not be saddling up permanently. Government Mule have also been working on songs for a new album, and one track - 'Greasy Granny's Gopher Gravy' - has been co-written with Les Claypool of Primus fame. Stuart http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Mar 14 08:42:12 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:42:12 -0600 Subject: HW: weird availability???-cont'd In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6CF0@HERMES> Message-ID: >I got all the weird tapes off him,in fact,he may have all the voiceprint >releases.Last time I talked to him his computer had crashed so he may not >get email.STEPHE I have the home phone of Jim and Carol, and can reach them if anyone has trouble..... Mike c,,, I sent him an email, if I get no reply, I'll call them and check on these... so mark licht...if your reading...I requested you a set of the weird ones.... From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Mar 14 08:58:45 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:58:45 -0500 Subject: OFF: Govt Mule In-Reply-To: <200103141328.IAA22229@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Zeitgeist wrote: => THE MULE TRAIN ROLLS => Government Mule, the American blues-rock trio, will hit the road at the => end of this month to play a handful of US shows. This will be the first => time the band have stepped into the spotlight since the death last year => of bassist Allen Woody. The Mule will use Dave Schools of Widespread => Panic for this brief trek, although he will not be saddling up => permanently. Government Mule have also been working on songs for a new => album, and one track - 'Greasy Granny's Gopher Gravy' - has been => co-written with Les Claypool of Primus fame. Gov't Mule (or the "New School of Gov't Mule" as the mini-tour is billed) will also feature Mr. Chuck Leavell of the Allman Brothers Band on keyboards. (Woo hoo!) The new album alluded to above is actually the "tribute album" mentioned not too long ago, and features a boatload of famous bassists. Rather than cover old Mule tunes, it will feature new material, hence the "new Mule album" designation. A recent interview with Warren posited the notion of a brief international tour featuring said bassists on stage with "the Mule." If they could pull that off, well, now that would be something!... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Mar 14 10:12:46 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:12:46 +0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock In-Reply-To: <001e01c0a1d5$e6c2b580$a828fd3e@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Nick Lee wrote: > Yeah, but can you see the Top Ten Of Space Rock getting made? I couldn't > name 10 space rock bands that Joe Public would've heard of. At least this > way we're getting a few minutes of HW documentary on the telly for the first > time. Yes, but who would it be? I'd have to include Farflung, DarXtar and the Ozrics along with Hawkwind, also ST37 because I'm just that way, but who else really? Are there ten really good space-rock groups? Have there been? I think a full ten would have to include some real lame ones. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Mar 14 10:13:58 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:13:58 +0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten In-Reply-To: <200103011559.PAA22930@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, M Holmes wrote: > david hall writes: > > > Dave B, of course.....Lemmy - probably....Nik (with the self-styled = > > "spirit of Hawkwind" vibe) - yup. What about Dave Anderson with a public = > > apology for the crap live releases. > > Apology? I want self-immolation at the least. Or if he can't put that out on record he could at least write *something*. Has he actually produced any music over the last ten years, as opposed to just producing it, if you see what I mean? Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Mar 14 10:15:57 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:15:57 +0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Jon Browne wrote: > In article <005901c0a27a$721d3340$4c0c28d5 at starfield>, Captain Bl at ck > writes > > > > Bill Bailey - is this the same guy that contributes to the list? > > No, this is the "Human Slaves Of An Insect Nation!" Bill Bailey Annoyance! That's a perfectly good idea and just because he's thought of it too isn't going to stop me turning out cod sci-fi based thereon. It just won't be as good as I imagine his take on it was... Ah well, yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Mar 14 10:17:29 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:17:29 +0000 Subject: BOC: News In-Reply-To: <3A9FA561.2080609@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > Agents Of Fortune: > -(Don't Fear) The Reaper (Buck's original home demo) > -Dance The Night Away (Allen's original home demo with Allen singing) > -Sally (Pre-Production) > -Fire Of Unknown Origin All this is pretty damned exciting but this last is marvellous, because I remember Al posting about how much he put into that version and how cut up he was that it was never used. The scores will finally be set straight :-) As long as the royalty cehques actually get to him of course... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Mar 14 10:19:38 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:19:38 +0000 Subject: Canterbury festival In-Reply-To: <200103021512.KAA19495@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Colin Allen wrote: > Faversham is in Kent, just north-west of Canterbury; it is also home to the > Shepherd Neame brewery; the oldest independent brewery in England and > producer of some fine ales! Indeed, last year's fetsival had Shepherd Neame ales on site, sadly only kegged ones but still quite nice... Hopefully this year they'll realise they need more food and drink stands though. Getting there is going to be an issue. I think we shall be three including one infant, so if there's spaces in a car that would be cool but also somewhat surprising. I shall put some effort into scaring up a lift I think... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Mar 14 10:21:44 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:21:44 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alien Planetscapes? Cheers, R. > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Nick Lee wrote: > > > Yeah, but can you see the Top Ten Of Space Rock getting made? I couldn't > > name 10 space rock bands that Joe Public would've heard of. At > least this > > way we're getting a few minutes of HW documentary on the telly > for the first > > time. > > Yes, but who would it be? I'd have to include Farflung, DarXtar > and the Ozrics along with Hawkwind, also ST37 because I'm just that way, > but who else really? Are there ten really good space-rock groups? Have > there been? I think a full ten would have to include some real lame > ones. Yours, > Jon > > -- > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > =================================================================== > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Mar 14 09:24:58 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:24:58 EDT Subject: BOC: News In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 14 Mar 2001, at 15:17, Jon Jarrett wrote: > All this is pretty damned exciting but this last is > marvellous, > because I remember Al posting about how much he put into that version > and how cut up he was that it was never used. The scores will finally > be set straight :-) As long as the royalty cehques actually get to him > of course... Yours, Didn't Al cut some kind of buyout deal with Sony, where they paid him a lump sum settlement? theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Mar 14 10:33:58 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:33:58 -0500 Subject: BOC: Remastered CDs (+ speculation) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I hope that the redone OYF includes the rest of Live from the West, since a track or two will be Tyranny's re-release. That would be Smooth. Time to start savin' them pennies! Q: were the quadrophonic versions of ST and T&M simply remixes or a whole different set of master tapes? T'would be cool to be able to understand the band dialogue during parts of side 1 on T&M. Also, has anyone on the list heard the quad LPs? how do they compare? Jason From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Mar 14 10:27:54 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:27:54 +0000 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: Hi, No one has asked yet, is there camping available ? That would certainly help get me over from the west country if I knew I didn't have to drive back that night. Is there a campsite nearby ? Anyone ? Regards iain > From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Mar 14 10:19:49 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:19:49 -0600 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock Message-ID: What about MR. QUIMBYS BEARD, they rule. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Richard Lockwood [mailto:rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 9:22 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock Alien Planetscapes? Cheers, R. > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Nick Lee wrote: > > > Yeah, but can you see the Top Ten Of Space Rock getting made? I couldn't > > name 10 space rock bands that Joe Public would've heard of. At > least this > > way we're getting a few minutes of HW documentary on the telly > for the first > > time. > > Yes, but who would it be? I'd have to include Farflung, DarXtar > and the Ozrics along with Hawkwind, also ST37 because I'm just that way, > but who else really? Are there ten really good space-rock groups? Have > there been? I think a full ten would have to include some real lame > ones. Yours, > Jon > > -- > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > =================================================================== > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Mar 14 09:33:18 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:33:18 EDT Subject: BOC: Remastered CDs (+ speculation) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010314103358.00696154@acmenet.net> Message-ID: On 14 Mar 2001, at 10:33, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > Q: were the quadrophonic versions of ST and T&M simply remixes or a > whole different set of master tapes? T'would be cool to be able to > understand the band dialogue during parts of side 1 on T&M. Also, has > anyone on the list heard the quad LPs? how do they compare? > I had a quad 8-track of T&M! Hard to evaluate it because I only had a conventional stereo to play it on. As I recall, the sound quality was excellent... theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 11:09:59 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:09:59 -0500 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: Quite a few within reasonable distance. This is holiday country! From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 11:24:24 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:24:24 -0000 Subject: Tarot Cards and Hawkwind Message-ID: I remember reading ages ago in a hawkwind fanzine there was this interview with Dave Brock and he mentioned that Hawkwind had done some music to accompany a set of tarot cards. Anyone know anything about this? And could they shed some light on the track listing/format etc? cheers Colm *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. 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Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: 14 March 2001 08:04 Subject: Re: HW:Hawkwind UK Tour > Hw, > > Any UK tour must include a show in the Liverpool area; there are a number > of venues of different types that may be of interest. > > In Liverpool there is: > Empire Theatre - fully seated, great stage but the atmosphere could be a > little bit laid back (capacity 2000+) > Royal Court - standing downstairs, seated upstairs; much better atmosphere > capacity (1000+) > Lomax/L2 - club venue, great atmosphere; don't know the capacity but some > fairly decent bands have played there > Liverpool University - haven't been there for years but they have at least > two venues; one is a fairly large hall, the other is like a bar. Recent > bookings include Eat Static, ICU played the bar venue years ago > > > In Warrington there is; > Parr Hall - standing downstairs and a small seating area upstairs; you > played there a few years ago with Poisoned Electrik Head > > In Widnes there is; > Queens Hall - similar to Parr Hall, can get more information if required > > Spike Island - potential venue for an outdoor show, remember the Stone > Roses years ago? > > Ther are also venues in New Brighton and Southport (nice beach > resorts!?!?). If you would like any further information on any of the > venues give me a shout. > > Mark From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Mar 14 11:56:30 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:56:30 -0500 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: Iain asked... >No one has asked yet, is there camping available ? That would certainly help >get me over from the west country if I knew I didn't have to drive back that >night. > >Is there a campsite nearby ? > >Anyone ? Weird that I'm contributing to this, but on the way from Dover to London for the Hawkestra gig, I tent-camped within walking distance (~2 miles due east) of the centre of Canterbury, along Bekesbourne Road. Nice big place with all sorts of amenities (washers and driers!), which was really nice considering on the way in I walked through a steady downpour from the Bekesbourne station. Which was a major mistake by the way...better to go one more stop to Canterbury East, even though the subsequent walking distance is about the same. 'Cause there's virtually no margin/shoulder along Bekesbourne road and several dark corners where I expected to be nailed by any number of automobiles. Esp. dangerous considering I kept forgetting which lane they'd be travelling in. The husband and wife who run the place were very nice to me...of course, I was the only one there silly enough to be camping in a tent in a monsoon, but they pointed me to a spot that would be relatively high and dry, and in the morning I ran all the wet stuff through the drier, so I was good to go. IIRC, I found the place via the 'Camping and Caravanning Club' (or something) website, of which they're a part. I gather caravan is the English name for what we call in the US a camper or RV. Coincidence that Caravan, the band, is from Canterbury? Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Stay away from the power lines overhead if you have fears of stray radiation. :) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Mar 14 12:18:12 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:18:12 -0600 Subject: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >I remember reading ages ago in a hawkwind fanzine there was this interview >with Dave Brock and he mentioned that Hawkwind had done some music to >accompany a set of tarot cards. Anyone know anything about this? And could >they shed some light on the track listing/format etc? > >cheers Colm seems like Walter Wegmuller's tarot, with the cosmic couriers....... the LP set is worth a ton, and they did a reissue CD box set now as well... can't imagine HW doing that for real, as I'm sure they are well familiar with it.... mc PS--it's great in my opinion... From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Wed Mar 14 12:27:05 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:27:05 -0600 Subject: Off Re: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? Message-ID: Also on a similar note is Mike Batt's "Tarot Suite" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Coleman" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:18 AM Subject: Re: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? > > > >I remember reading ages ago in a hawkwind fanzine there was this interview > >with Dave Brock and he mentioned that Hawkwind had done some music to > >accompany a set of tarot cards. Anyone know anything about this? And could > >they shed some light on the track listing/format etc? > > > >cheers Colm > > > seems like Walter Wegmuller's tarot, with the cosmic couriers....... > > the LP set is worth a ton, and they did a reissue CD box set now as well... > > can't imagine HW doing that for real, as I'm sure they are well familiar > with it.... > > > mc > > PS--it's great in my opinion... > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Mar 14 12:24:13 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:24:13 -0500 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock Message-ID: Jon amazingly says... >> Yeah, but can you see the Top Ten Of Space Rock getting made? I couldn't >> name 10 space rock bands that Joe Public would've heard of. At least this >> way we're getting a few minutes of HW documentary on the telly for the first >> time. > > Yes, but who would it be? I'd have to include Farflung, DarXtar >and the Ozrics along with Hawkwind, also ST37 because I'm just that way, >but who else really? Are there ten really good space-rock groups? Have >there been? I think a full ten would have to include some real lame >ones. Yours, Oh, come now. You can't seriously believe that! Of course, it depends on whether you limit it to 'space-themed spacerock groups' or include 'musically-speaking spacerock groups' as well. Since the BBC show did only classic prog rock (i.e., 70s-based), I'd say the equivalent space rock show should be... Hawkwind Amon Duul II Gong Nektar Eloy Guru Guru Can Here 'n' Now Chrome Ash Ra Tempel/Cosmic Jokers (question whether Pink Floyd should be included...perhaps so) Although the 80s/90s could easily be... darXtar The Spacious Mind Korai Orom Ozric Tentacles Porcupine Tree Sky Cries Mary Farflung/Pressurehed Alien Planetscapes Circle 7% Solution or Melting Euphoria or ST37 or Quimby or Dead Flowers or... and that's without even really trying. Of course, of this list, only the Ozrics and PTree are that well known. But who are the 'real lame' ones out of this list! Grakkl (FAA) From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 13:03:01 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:03:01 +0000 Subject: Off Re: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? In-Reply-To: <007a01c0acab$fd759320$e400e03f@m8v3c0> Message-ID: In article <007a01c0acab$fd759320$e400e03f at m8v3c0>, Dan Witt writes >Also on a similar note is Mike Batt's "Tarot Suite" And Steve Hackett's 'Voyage of the Acolyte' -- David Blair From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Mar 14 13:16:07 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:16:07 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 100 Album Covers Message-ID: LoL. Yeah if Q have changed into a tabloid format newspaper, i'd be surprised. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Magnusson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:05 AM Subject: Re: HW: Top 100 Album Covers > I think it was in Q. > > >In one of the papers today there was a top 100 album covers thing, and Space > >Ritual was in the top 50 with it's own picture. ;-) > >The paper was flashed at me by a work colleague, and I was trying to do 50 > >things at once so I missed exactly which paper it was. > > > >Rich W > > > >rich.warren at btinternet.com > > ------- > Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ > The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Mar 14 12:13:15 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:13:15 EDT Subject: Canterbury festival In-Reply-To: <200103141707.MAA06891@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On 14 Mar 2001, at 11:56, K Henderson wrote: > Iain asked... > > >No one has asked yet, is there camping available ? That would > >certainly > help >get me over from the west country if I knew I didn't have to > drive back that >night. > >Is there a campsite nearby ? > >Anyone ? > > Weird that I'm contributing to this, but on the way from Dover to > London for the Hawkestra gig, I tent-camped within walking distance > (~2 miles due east) of the centre of Canterbury, along Bekesbourne > Road. I hate to introduce such a bummer, but is there a chance that the current calamity over foot-and-mouth disease will cast a pall on outdoor concerts this summer, and possibly lead to their cancellation? Does anyone know how this restricts movement from one country to another, esp. in the EU? I'm planning to be in Eur. in a couple months, and wonder if I should cancel my tickets? theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Mar 14 13:18:26 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:18:26 -0600 Subject: OFF: New Software Allows Recordings of Internet Radio Message-ID: Read the whole article here: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/music010314.html Excerpts: "The Audio Mill's RadioActive Tuner, due to be released in a beta test version this week . . . " "RadioActive Tuner isn't the first tool for stream ripping. There's a free program called "Streamripper" for Windows and Linux that does the trick, but only for streams from broadcasters Shoutcast and Live365 in MP3 format ? no other broadcasters, and certainly not RealAudio or Windows Media streams. Putnam said RadioActive will handle MP3 and RealAudio streams from as many broadcasters as possible, in an easy-to-use manner." From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Mar 14 14:03:22 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:03:22 -0000 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: I posted this to the group a few days back... -----Original Message----- From: Nick Lee To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Date: 12 March 2001 19:05 Subject: HW: Not such a long walk after all > >-----Original Message----- >From: MandVPow at cs.com >To: nick.lee2 at virgin.net >Date: 11 March 2001 20:27 >Subject: Re: Information request from www.CanterburySoundFestival.com > > >>Thank you for your enquiry >> >>There is no camping at the festival, however there are campsites within 2 >>miles from the site. Details of these will be on the website when it is up >>and running in another seven days or so. It will be under links to "Tourist >>information". >> >>Regards >> >>Canterbury Sound Festival Team >> > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Mar 14 14:22:09 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:22:09 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind CD's Message-ID: i made some enquries today and the result is that we should have ltd quantities of the CD's 'Alien 4', 'Captured Rotation', 'Sonic Attack', the 'Love In Space' CD single, and something else I've foirgotten....oh yes, the 'White Zone' CD, here in stock at CDS towers by end of week, if anyone wants any of these,OK. This has been the usual message and it won't self-destruct in 5 seconds, Andy Garibaldi andygee at dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: colm mcwilliams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 5:11 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! I've seen Alien 4 recently in tower records in picadilly london if that helps? colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Joe Loehr Sent: 14 March 2001 00:37 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! In a message dated 3/13/01 5:56:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: So anyone know where I can get Alien 4 and/or Love In Space? -- Well, CDZone (www.cdzone.co.uk) has Alien 4 listed . . . Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Mar 14 14:26:02 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:26:02 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! Message-ID: see my earlier posting tonight on 'Alien 4' availability but the Love In Space album is definitely out of print but NOT deleted as they do intend to reissue it at some point in time. Only the single is available. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Loehr To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! In a message dated 3/13/01 5:56:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: So anyone know where I can get Alien 4 and/or Love In Space? -- Well, CDZone (www.cdzone.co.uk) has Alien 4 listed . . . Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Mar 14 14:46:32 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:46:32 -0000 Subject: HW: (non)-availability Message-ID: We have been told that Weird 6 is NOT deleted - just out of print - Voiceprint apparently do intend to press more - just a question of 'when' and the reason it's out I think is that it sold better, but if there's been any legal problem, then I don't know about it. As to catalogues, if you are covering a vast range of stock ( and we do a dozen different genre catalogiues)that you do intend to keep in on the shelves, there's no mail order around that can run catalogues and keep everything on the shelf at all times - there has to be out of stocks, but in our case we try and keep delays down to a minimum but if your supplier lets you down you can do nothing but let people know, although again, with us, by and large people are happy to keep things going because they know they are not going to find it elsewhere and are happy to let us beaver away knowing that if the item is around, we will get it. Just a matter of choice and patience, really, for the customer - each to their own. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 7:07 AM Subject: Re: HW: (non)-availability > Nick sed... > > >It intrigues me that online stores can get away with this. > > "This" being publishing (esp. online, but also in print) ridiculously > inflated catalogues of stuff that they have no intention of keeping in > stock, and for which they really have no idea (until an order comes in) > whether they can actually attain for you. > > The answer is...they get away with it only if people keep ordering from > them. Personally, I put up with this exactly once, and then I recognise > them for what they are, and they are on my shitlist thereafter. I search > GEMM.com regularly, and invariably whenever a particular title comes in with > 8 or so responses, I can bet that 6 of them are the same group of vendors > (allstars is one that claims to offer *everything*...there are others) that > are worthless dead ends (well, I never actually *tried* allstars, esp. since > they're in Europe...but I can guess the outcome)...and overpriced to boot. > > Of course, I just put in an order (which I fully expected to end up as it > did) with cdnow.com for Weird #6, and the backorder lasted about 10 days > before the order was outright cancelled. > > And so now the question is....who the hell *has* Weird #6 (if anybody) in > the US. www.cdnow.com *had* been able to get a few rare-ish things for me > in the past (even with the wait), but obviously not this rare one. > > So, what's the deal with this one, anyway? Why is it already deleted and > ridiculously hard to find when it's only been out about 6 months? Did they > print fewer copies, or is it just so much more fabulous than the others? > I'm baffled. > > Grakkl (FAA) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Mar 14 14:39:00 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:39:00 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 Space Rock Message-ID: well my top ten are marked ++ but a list to consider is: ++Krel ++Spacehead ++Farflung Darxtar ++Starfield ++Bethany Curve (Ok - the 'Gold' album anyway) ++Architectural Metaphor ++Amon Duul 2 Helios Creed ++Quarkspace Falcon Project ++F/i ++Hawkwind High Tide Nektar Omnia Opera Strobe Vocokesh Alien Planetscapes Presurehed Monster Magnet (at a rather big push) Magic Mushroom Band The Moor Dark Sun and the psych contingent: Tribe Of Cro Ozrics Mr Quimbys Beard Ship Of Fools Melting Euphoria Korai Orom Anyone else? Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 3:12 PM Subject: Re: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Nick Lee wrote: > > > Yeah, but can you see the Top Ten Of Space Rock getting made? I couldn't > > name 10 space rock bands that Joe Public would've heard of. At least this > > way we're getting a few minutes of HW documentary on the telly for the first > > time. > > Yes, but who would it be? I'd have to include Farflung, DarXtar > and the Ozrics along with Hawkwind, also ST37 because I'm just that way, > but who else really? Are there ten really good space-rock groups? Have > there been? I think a full ten would have to include some real lame > ones. Yours, > Jon > > -- > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > =================================================================== > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 14:46:32 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:46:32 +0000 Subject: Canterbury festival In-Reply-To: <3AAF6E6C.6571.109F22B@localhost> Message-ID: In article <3AAF6E6C.6571.109F22B at localhost>, Ted Jackson writes >On 14 Mar 2001, at 11:56, K Henderson wrote: > >> Iain asked... >> >> >No one has asked yet, is there camping available ? That would >> >certainly >> help >get me over from the west country if I knew I didn't have to >> drive back that >night. > >Is there a campsite nearby ? > >Anyone ? >> >> Weird that I'm contributing to this, but on the way from Dover to >> London for the Hawkestra gig, I tent-camped within walking distance >> (~2 miles due east) of the centre of Canterbury, along Bekesbourne >> Road. > >I hate to introduce such a bummer, but is there a chance that the >current calamity over foot-and-mouth disease will cast a pall on >outdoor concerts this summer, and possibly lead to their >cancellation? Does anyone know how this restricts movement from >one country to another, esp. in the EU? I'm planning to be in Eur. in >a couple months, and wonder if I should cancel my tickets? We've just cancelled a trip to Ireland on advice from relatives over there, where there are some restrictions (religious services, sporting events cancelled, nightclubs closed) but I think that only affects rural areas where a lot of the economy is based around farming. The Irish government is also advising people not to travel from the UK unless they have to. In the UK there are currently no restrictions on travel, although several sporting fixtures have been cancelled - though a lot of that may be because the Irish team pulled out of the Rugby. AFAIK there's only been one reported case in another EU country (France), so I'd be surprised if there's any restrictions on travel in the EU yet. If there's currently no restrictions on where you want to go, and there's still a couple of months until you go, I'd wait and see if it gets any worse/better before cancelling. -- David Blair From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Mar 14 15:00:27 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:00:27 GMT Subject: HW: Top 100 Album Covers Message-ID: It was the Daily Mail. It featured the top 100 record covers (including singles)as judged by 'Q' magazine. Space Ritual was no.35. No. 1 was 'God Save The Queen' by the Sex Pistols. Mick > LoL. Yeah if Q have changed into a tabloid format newspaper, i'd be >surprised. > >Rich W >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kenneth Magnusson" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:05 AM >Subject: Re: HW: Top 100 Album Covers > > > I think it was in Q. > > >In one of the papers today there was a top 100 album covers thing, and >Space > >Ritual was in the top 50 with it's own picture. ;-) > >The paper was flashed at me by a work colleague, and I was trying to do >50 > >things at once so I missed exactly which paper it was. > > > >Rich W > > > >rich.warren at btinternet.com > > ------- > Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ > The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor > -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Mar 14 15:11:16 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:11:16 -0500 Subject: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:18:12 -0600, Mike Coleman wrote: >seems like Walter Wegmuller's tarot, with the cosmic couriers....... ... with Manuel Gottsching & Harmut Enke from Ash Ra Tempel, Klaus Schulze, Dieter Dirks & a host of other krautrock all-stars. >the LP set is worth a ton, and they did a reissue CD box set now as well... ... which also, unfortunately, costs a ton. >PS--it's great in my opinion... One of the best krautrock albums ever IMO. Much more "song"-oriented than any of the other Cosmic Jokers etc. stuff, and incredibly diverse (bits of funk and folk and heavy rock and "new age" all seamlessly fit together). And the Tarot cards included with the set (which is probably what makes the price so high) ARE thoroughly gorgeous (and the artwork is quite lysergic); Wegmuller is/was a very well established Swiss artist (a former flatmate, of Swiss descent herself, saw the set in my collection and said, "wow! I had no idea he made an album!"). The cards show considerable talent in that area. The longer I've owned the set, the more I think that it actually *is* worth the high price ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 15:14:34 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:14:34 -0000 Subject: Hawklords Footage and Top 10 Prog Rock Message-ID: I remember reading that Bob Harris hated Hawkwind - hence no OGWT shows Dave -----Original Message----- From: Mark Von Bargen To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 09 March 2001 07:39 Subject: Hawklords Footage and Top 10 Prog Rock >Hi, > >I vaguely remember a rumour that the Hawklords were to be featured on the >Old Grey Whistle Test in UK about the time of the album and tour. If they >did appear I didn't catch the programme even though I watched it for a few >weeks before losing interest cos most of the stuff on it was dire >(according to me). I also remember that Annie Nightingale had taken over as >presenter from Bob Harris at this time and the emphasis was shifting >towards 'new wave' artists. > >One thing I did catch on the show was the UK TV debut of Tubeway Army (Gary >Numan's band). I thought at the time that Numan was very heavily influenced >by Bob Calvert and on the show he looked very similar to Calvert in the >Hawklord's clip on the Top 10 show. > >I finally went back and looked at the rest of the show on video a couple of >days ago. Most of the rest of the bands I found to be highly embarassing >(but it does make me wonder what the average viewer made of Hawkwind). > >A couple of thoughts struck me though. Most of the other bands came across >as typical public school boy types trying to be outrageous (worst of all >Genesis, although I'm biased as I have never liked them). > >Also interesting was the fact that there were no direct contributions from >any Floyd members. It must have been a real downer for the show's makers >not to get anything back form their number 1 group. > >Mark > > >On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:26:12 +0800, William Duffy wrote: > >>Hi there >> >>The clip is in colour with sound, & appears to have been filmed >specifically >>for video (it may be the clip others are referring to), & also has >Automaton >>as the lead in to it. >>I seem to recall Calvert sitting on a stool in the clip? >> >>William >> >> > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 15:55:47 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:55:47 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 100 Album Covers Message-ID: I bought this today: buy it! If only for the revelations that the alternate title for Space Ritual was Miss Stacia, nd, that Stacia now lives in Ireland. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Magnusson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 14 March 2001 08:05 Subject: Re: HW: Top 100 Album Covers >I think it was in Q. > >>In one of the papers today there was a top 100 album covers thing, and Space >>Ritual was in the top 50 with it's own picture. ;-) >>The paper was flashed at me by a work colleague, and I was trying to do 50 >>things at once so I missed exactly which paper it was. >> >>Rich W >> >>rich.warren at btinternet.com > >------- >Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ >The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor > From starfield at SUPANET.COM Wed Mar 14 16:22:48 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:22:48 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 100 Album Covers Message-ID: What? And you believe them? ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:55 PM Subject: Re: HW: Top 100 Album Covers > I bought this today: buy it! If only for the revelations that the alternate > title for Space Ritual was Miss Stacia, nd, that Stacia now lives in > Ireland. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Magnusson > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 14 March 2001 08:05 > Subject: Re: HW: Top 100 Album Covers > > > >I think it was in Q. > > > >>In one of the papers today there was a top 100 album covers thing, and > Space > >>Ritual was in the top 50 with it's own picture. ;-) > >>The paper was flashed at me by a work colleague, and I was trying to do 50 > >>things at once so I missed exactly which paper it was. > >> > >>Rich W > >> > >>rich.warren at btinternet.com > > > >------- > >Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ > >The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor > > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Mar 14 16:35:34 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:35:34 -0500 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi Message-ID: Since my favorite SF authors tend to be the likes of Ballard, Spinrad, PK Dick, etc. I tend to mostly agree with the sentiments expressed here by MM. Others may be disturbed to see some of their favorite authors slagged, but either way, you gotta respect him for expressing his views ... "If I were sitting in a tube train and all the people opposite me were reading Mein Kampf with obvious enjoyment and approval it probably wouldn't disturb me much more than if they were reading Heinlein, Tolkein or Richard Adams." (obligatory HW-related content: what about recording readings from 'Mein Kampf' over Wagner?) "All this visionary fiction seems to me to have a great deal in common. Utopian fiction has been predominantly reactionary in one form or another (as well as being predominantly dull) since it began. Most of it warns the world of 'decadence' in its contemporaries and the alternatives are usually authoritarian and sweeping -- not to say simple-minded. A look at the books on sale to Cienfuegos customers shows the same old list of Lovecraft and Rand, Heinlein and Niven, beloved of so many people who would be horrified to be accused of subscribing to the Daily Telegraph or belonging to the Monday Club and yet are reading with every sign of satisfaction views by writers who would make Telegraph editorials look like the work of Bakunin and Monday Club members sound like spokesmen for the Paris Commune." full essay at: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/3998/Moorcock.html -Doug ceres at sirius.com From pat at THE-MILLS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 16:43:16 2001 From: pat at THE-MILLS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Pat Bloomfield) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:43:16 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind CD's Message-ID: Can these be bought by mail order? Pat Bloomfield --------------------------------------- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI Subject: Re: Hawkwind CD's Date: 14/03/2001 7:22:09 pm --------------------------------------- i made some enquries today and the result is that we should have ltd quantities of the CD's 'Alien 4', 'Captured Rotation', 'Sonic Attack', the 'Love In Space' CD single, and something else I've foirgotten....oh yes, the 'White Zone' CD, here in stock at CDS towers by end of week, if anyone wants any of these,OK. This has been the usual message and it won't self-destruct in 5 seconds, Andy Garibaldi andygee at dial.pipex.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 16:38:13 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:38:13 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 100 Album Covers Message-ID: Perhaps not, but it got me laughing! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 14 March 2001 21:24 Subject: Re: HW: Top 100 Album Covers >What? And you believe them? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: david hall >To: >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:55 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Top 100 Album Covers > > >> I bought this today: buy it! If only for the revelations that the >alternate >> title for Space Ritual was Miss Stacia, nd, that Stacia now lives in >> Ireland. >> >> Dave >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kenneth Magnusson >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >> Date: 14 March 2001 08:05 >> Subject: Re: HW: Top 100 Album Covers >> >> >> >I think it was in Q. >> > >> >>In one of the papers today there was a top 100 album covers thing, and >> Space >> >>Ritual was in the top 50 with it's own picture. ;-) >> >>The paper was flashed at me by a work colleague, and I was trying to do >50 >> >>things at once so I missed exactly which paper it was. >> >> >> >>Rich W >> >> >> >>rich.warren at btinternet.com >> > >> >------- >> >Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ >> >The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor >> > > > From joe.e at TELIA.COM Wed Mar 14 17:05:41 2001 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:05:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawklords LP's PROMO vs STOCK... Message-ID: My Hawklords Psi Power 12" came's with a lyric sheet in the (in Scandinavia very odd) US Letter format (actually three identical copies). I don't remember it being mentioned elsewhere. Is it common, or is it known to hawkdome at all? I mean I could have been fooled by the previous owner, possible a lyric freak with a typewriter... It starts with these lines: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - PSI POWER Robert Calvert & Dave Brock THE HAWKLORDS >From their Charisma/Polydor Album CA 1-2203 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ...and concludes with a (Funny noises at the end) line. .joe At 22:08 2001-03-13 -0600, you wrote: >>In a message dated 3/13/01 11:57:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, >>ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: >> >>> You've actually found one that's NOT a promo? Obviously, Phonogram (the US >>> distributors for Charisma at the time) put some real degree of effort into >>> promoting the thing (given the tons of promo copies, >> > > >since Doug said (to me privately), that one thing about me is I do know HW >stuff....I'll bump in here and say.....there are 3 different pressing runs >of the stock copy (which is MUCH RARER than the promo) there are 2 >different pressing runs of the promo that I know of....possibly 3 on this >as well.....the second one I have is VERY RARE and the gold embossed promo >emblem on the back is different to most you will find..... > >another difference between all these is the darkness and texture of the >printing on the covers......some are very dark and beautful...(if you like >that cover!!!) > >in the USA, promos are not a big deal, as in many cases with Hawkwind, >especially the 45's...they made lots, but didn't actually press many >stocks!!! > >just try to find the stock "Kings Of Speed" WITH Motorhead......VERY RARE... > >I have 2 different versions of this...I suspect there's at least 3.... > > >It's all so insane and beautiful..... > >PS..on the other hand....if you get promos/demo copies of British >LP's...you have truly got a rarity.... > > >ok....back to my corner > >mike c > From joe.e at TELIA.COM Wed Mar 14 17:05:42 2001 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:05:42 +0100 Subject: HW: (non)-availability Message-ID: >And so now the question is....who the hell *has* Weird #6 (if anybody) in >the US. www.cdnow.com *had* been able to get a few rare-ish things for me >in the past (even with the wait), but obviously not this rare one. > >So, what's the deal with this one, anyway? Why is it already deleted and >ridiculously hard to find when it's only been out about 6 months? Did they >print fewer copies, or is it just so much more fabulous than the others? >I'm baffled. > >Grakkl (FAA) was weird 008 released on CD? if not, why? .joe From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Mar 14 17:54:33 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:54:33 -0000 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: I have a very dear friend in the farming 'industry' - this is the message she posted to me tonight ( I have deleted place names) and it sends chills down my spine for the future of this country: ---------------------------------------------- The situation here is horrid- I saw the smoke yeaterday from the burning animals 10 miles south at M******...! We are just hoping and would be praying, if we did! (see last late night conversation) What is more worrying is major shut down of the rural economy and possible resulting political decisions. Animal vaccinations etc very great concerns about long term future of agriculture because population find slaughter unacceptable.....oooeeerrr???? -------------------------------- Despite what our government says, this situation IS serious and COULD lead to cancellations of everything outdoors if something isn't really done soon. Only now they've gone and said 'yes' to local elections for totally political reasons knowing that they have effectively quarrantined everyone who is likely to be voting against them!!!! Scandalous or what........ Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Jackson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Canterbury festival > On 14 Mar 2001, at 11:56, K Henderson wrote: > > > Iain asked... > > > > >No one has asked yet, is there camping available ? That would > > >certainly > > help >get me over from the west country if I knew I didn't have to > > drive back that >night. > >Is there a campsite nearby ? > >Anyone ? > > > > Weird that I'm contributing to this, but on the way from Dover to > > London for the Hawkestra gig, I tent-camped within walking distance > > (~2 miles due east) of the centre of Canterbury, along Bekesbourne > > Road. > > I hate to introduce such a bummer, but is there a chance that the > current calamity over foot-and-mouth disease will cast a pall on > outdoor concerts this summer, and possibly lead to their > cancellation? Does anyone know how this restricts movement from > one country to another, esp. in the EU? I'm planning to be in Eur. in > a couple months, and wonder if I should cancel my tickets? > > > theo > > xxxxxxxxx > > "Wherever you go, there you are." > --B. Banzai From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Mar 14 18:02:44 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:02:44 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind CD's Message-ID: yes - e.mail me privately with your own e.mail address at: andygee at dial.pipex.com or agcdser at aol.com and I will give you details but it's just like any other mail order - give us all the details (card, address, etc) and we will get what you want to you but if you have any questions, just call....... Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Bloomfield" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind CD's > Can these be bought by mail order? > > Pat Bloomfield > > --------------------------------------- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI > Subject: Re: Hawkwind CD's > Date: 14/03/2001 7:22:09 pm > --------------------------------------- > i made some enquries today and the result is that we should have ltd quantities of the CD's 'Alien 4', 'Captured Rotation', 'Sonic Attack', the 'Love In Space' CD single, and something else I've foirgotten....oh yes, the 'White Zone' CD, here in stock at CDS towers by end of week, if anyone wants any of these,OK. > This has been the usual message and it won't self-destruct in 5 seconds, > Andy Garibaldi > andygee at dial.pipex.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 17:51:34 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:51:34 -0000 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted Jackson To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Canterbury festival > I hate to introduce such a bummer, but is there a chance that the > current calamity over foot-and-mouth disease will cast a pall on Hopefully by August and Canterbury the worst will be over and any camping restrictions lifted. However anything planned for May or June may well be in jeopardy since it is only 3 weeks since the start of the outbreak and with an incubation period of 3 weeks, and cases still rising in number and speading, any outdoor festivals are going to be out of the question until it's clearly confined again. Also given that Cumbria is one of the areas at greatest risk just now the Lake District is going to be out of bounds for quite a while I'd have thought. Conversely, however, once it *is* over I guess they'll be delighted to have a Festival somewhere, if only to bring some much needed money into the area. It's just as well Glastonbury has already been cancelled this year. My guess is that it would have been very unlikely to go ahead if that had originally been the intention. In fact I hope Michael Eavis's cows are ok! A show in London will be no risk at all but Devon has major problems just now. I don't know if Dave (Hawkwind) will be affected by this? Anyone? jill From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 14 18:13:06 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:13:06 EST Subject: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! Message-ID: Your cynicism is well founded. Checking for availability before you order sounds like a good idea, if they give you a straight answer. They might just have a few copies left around somewhere. I think that's what happened when I ordered my copy from insound.com. I checked their list the next day after ordering, I think, and they had removed Alien 4 from their list. Guess I lucked out and got their last copy. Luck to you in your Quest! Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Wed Mar 14 18:18:37 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:18:37 -0500 Subject: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? Message-ID: From: "Douglas Pearson" > And the Tarot cards included with the set (which is probably what makes the > price so high) ARE thoroughly gorgeous (and the artwork is quite lysergic); > Wegmuller is/was a very well established Swiss artist (a former flatmate, > of Swiss descent herself, saw the set in my collection and said, "wow! I > had no idea he made an album!"). The cards show considerable talent in > that area. How much are the cards worth? I found them listed New Age Tarot Deck - $25 AUS New Age (Neuzeit) Tarot Deck - $36 AUS www.mindbodyspirit.com.au Jerry From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 14 18:24:53 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:24:53 EST Subject: HW: (non)-availability/ delay punishment Message-ID: In a message dated 3/14/01 2:29:14 AM US Eastern Standard Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > It's because Dave wants full-total commitment and dedication, and when we > try to split our attention /funds between HW and Pearl Jam,,,,,we get > punished... > > > Why am I being punished, I don't like Pearl Jam! True, I do buy other CDs, and I just bought a new 12-string geetar, but that's only so I can more effectively better play Hawk songs. So maybe can Cap'n Dave send me Weird #6? (hint, hint, nudge, nudge, wink, wink) Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed Mar 14 19:09:37 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:09:37 -0500 Subject: RE HW: IRC Chat Update Message-ID: ++GREETINGS STAR WARRIORS All lifeforms are encouraged to access IRC DALNET Channel #Hawkwind.org.uk in the next few days. The band will soon be holding a live chat with Hawkfans, and welcome your participation. To access IRC, you will need an IRC program such as mIRC, available from www.mirc.com. ++MESSAGE ENDS From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Mar 14 19:49:32 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:49:32 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawklords LP USA 12" Promo. In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.20010314225028.1f8fde42@m1.171.telia.com> Message-ID: Johan Edlundh asked about the Promo sheet: OK! the previous Hawklords LP's I was bellowing about were the long play records, but you know that...... The 12" Promo USA is actually not real uncommon, BUT ALAS!!!!! BOB CALVERT shines upon you.....IT IS RARE WITH THAT SHEET........ I have about 10-12 copies lying around here... ..none of them came with the sheet.... a friend of Bob Lennon's has one with the sheet......it's the only one we've heard of!!! any chance of trading/copying/selling one of your 3?????? if not...I'll go bug Dave (bob's friend)..think he said he'd sell it.... awaiting... mc From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Mar 14 19:55:43 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:55:43 -0600 Subject: HW: weird tapes/ collins?????? In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.20010314225030.1f8f65d8@m1.171.telia.com> Message-ID: >>And so now the question is....who the hell *has* Weird #6 ........ Jim Collins popped up briefly this morning on the "viso" screen to say he was supplying my friend with weird 6, then vanished without trace, leaving it a mystery whether or not he has the helmet on his head...... mc From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Mar 14 20:07:14 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:07:14 -0600 Subject: HW:weird 6-non punish In-Reply-To: <104.3f0825.27e157c5@aol.com> Message-ID: Why am I being punished, I don't like Pearl Jam! True, I do buy other CDs, and I just bought a new 12-string geetar, but that's only so I can more effectively better play Hawk songs. So maybe can Cap'n Dave send me Weird #6? (hint, hint, nudge, nudge, wink, wink) Joe AHHH but your NOT!! yours will find it's way to you!!! try jim Collins...I posted his email earlier, and it does work....also.... sounds like Andy G has revealed there is no real panic, the voiceprint folks just took an extra holiday and will press more...... From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 20:06:10 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:06:10 +0000 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi In-Reply-To: <200103142135.QAA25795@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200103142135.QAA25795 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >Since my favorite SF authors tend to be the likes of Ballard, Spinrad, PK >Dick, etc. I tend to mostly agree with the sentiments expressed here by >MM. Others may be disturbed to see some of their favorite authors slagged, >but either way, you gotta respect him for expressing his views ... >full essay at: > >http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/3998/Moorcock.html Alternatively it's in the book 'Wizardry And Wild Romance', which is basically Moorcock's personal survey of fantasy fiction, and is an informative, provocative read. Having said that, despite always having been a sci-fi fan, I've never enjoyed any sword-and-sorcery stuff (apart from Lord Of The Rings when I was about 13). I like the Cornelius books for example but- dons flameproof suit- I've never had the urge to read Elric. Agree with Doug's list of top authors above though. Surprised more Hawkfans don't rave about P.K. Dick- surely the ultimate sci-fi-delic author. -- Nick Medford From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Mar 14 20:44:06 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:44:06 -0600 Subject: on irc Message-ID: hey gang, come join us chatting on irc.dal.net in #hawkwind.org.uk (thanks again rik....) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 20:43:37 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:43:37 +0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock In-Reply-To: <200103141734.MAA12832@mail5.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: In message <200103141734.MAA12832 at mail5.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K Henderson writes >Of course, it depends on >whether you limit it to 'space-themed spacerock groups' or include >'musically-speaking spacerock groups' as well. Exactly, and in order for such a programme to have any chance of getting made, it'd have to be the latter approach. > >Since the BBC show It was Channel 4 rather than the Beeb > did only classic prog rock (i.e., 70s-based), I'd say the >equivalent space rock show should be... > >Hawkwind >Amon Duul II >Gong >Nektar >Eloy >Guru Guru >Can >Here 'n' Now >Chrome >Ash Ra Tempel/Cosmic Jokers >(question whether Pink Floyd should be included...perhaps so) I would certainly have Floyd in there- musically they were more space than prog, certainly up until 'Animals'- OK, all these labels are arbitrary and perhaps meaningless in the end, but it's only a bit o' fun innit... If the same criterion as in the C4 show- i.e. UK commercial success- was used to determine the ranking, then my list would look something like: 1. Pink Floyd 2. The Orb 3. Tangerine Dream 4. Hawkwind 5. Gong 6. Can 7. Soft Machine 8. Ozric Tentacles 9. Eloy 10. Porcupine Tree I emphasise this is NOT how I would rank these bands on merit, and possibly I've wildly over or underestimated some of these groups' sales. Would people consider Magma (who I've never heard- something I really need to rectify) spacerock? What about softer stuff like Focus? What about BOC?? The presence of the Orb will probably irk the purists but they're definitely space (admittedly not very rock!) The bands above are all well known, in the sense that anyone who reads the music press will have heard of them, although it's fair to say that en masse they're considerably less famous than the "Top 10 prog bands", and I couldn't honestly see this particular show getting made. I could imagine a krautrock documentary in one of the arts slots on the BBC though... rightly or wrongly the kosmische bands have always been seen as a more "serious culture"-type phenomenon. BTW, anyone going to see Damo Suzuki's band in London next week? Don't think I'm going to be able to make it, but still thinking of trying to rearrange things so I can. -- Nick Medford From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 14 20:53:30 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:53:30 EST Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock Message-ID: Top 10 of SpaceRock 1. Hawkwind 2. Bedouin 3. Starfields 4. Farflung 5. Ozric Tentacles 6. Amon Duul 2 7. Gong 8. Darxtar 9. Spacehead 10. Mr. Quimby's Beard That was easy, and I was just getting warmed up. I'm sure I could do a top 20 and not come up with any less than awesome bands. Peaceout, Eli From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Mar 14 22:31:01 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:31:01 -0500 Subject: Hawkdiscs - IN STOCK! Message-ID: Hey Now! I have these Hawkdiscs to trade or sell: Anthology Vol II - Samurai (CD)039 DOREMI FASOL LATIDO - One Way Records CDLL 57475 Levitation - Griffin GCD230-2 The Hawklords Live - Griffin GN 03921-2 The Chronicle of The Black Sword - Griffin GCDHA-0142-2 Live Chronicles - Griffin GCDHA-0136-2 Palace Springs - RoadRacer RRD 9303 Electric Tepee - Griffin GN0931-2 Future Reconstructions - Emergency Broadcast System EBSSCD 117 Quark, Strangeness & Charm CD Single - EBCD110 1) Uncle Sam's on Mars(Red Planet Radio Mix) 2) Quark, Strangeness & Charm 3) Black Sun (9:34 minutes) 4) Uncle Sam's On Mars (Martian Conquest Mix) Alan Davey ~ Captured Rotation - Digipak EBSSCD 122 Keith, I'll take that Ozrix that you have..... Please send a note if you still have it ") Mike, Apology accepted brother! No need to be down ") Just send the disc and all is forgotten. Smile: Space IS There! Anyone who needs any of the discs above, just send me a note. All are mint. Peace, Darrin np: Hendrix 1/1/70 Early Show _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Wed Mar 14 17:33:34 2001 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Sara Zaza) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:33:34 -0000 Subject: HW:Top 10 space rock Message-ID: i'd have to say: hawkwind amon duul 2 gong ash ra tempel popol vuh f/i tangerine dream (early stuff at least) pink floyd cluster can anyone heard the latest boredoms release "vision creation newsun"? brilliant, should appeal to many on this list, it's a complete ashra/hw/can tripout. j stanton From CultJacket at AOL.COM Wed Mar 14 23:37:46 2001 From: CultJacket at AOL.COM (Chris Martin) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:37:46 EST Subject: BOC: Remastered CDs (+ speculation) Message-ID: Jason, The quad LP's rule surpreme. Although T/M is the better of the 2 to get if you can find them. T/M is like 100 times better than the great LP it is.] Chris M. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 15 00:33:17 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:03:17 +1030 Subject: HW: Top 10 Space Rock Message-ID: >> Anyone else? Alien Dream comes to mind 8>B ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:09 AM Subject: Re: HW: Top 10 Space Rock > well my top ten are marked ++ but a list to consider is: > ++Krel > ++Spacehead > ++Farflung > Darxtar > ++Starfield > ++Bethany Curve (Ok - the 'Gold' album anyway) > ++Architectural Metaphor > ++Amon Duul 2 > Helios Creed > ++Quarkspace > Falcon Project > ++F/i > ++Hawkwind > High Tide > Nektar > Omnia Opera > Strobe > Vocokesh > Alien Planetscapes > Presurehed > Monster Magnet (at a rather big push) > Magic Mushroom Band > The Moor > Dark Sun > > and the psych contingent: > Tribe Of Cro > Ozrics > Mr Quimbys Beard > Ship Of Fools > Melting Euphoria > Korai Orom > Anyone else? > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Jarrett" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock > > > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Nick Lee wrote: > > > > > Yeah, but can you see the Top Ten Of Space Rock getting made? I couldn't > > > name 10 space rock bands that Joe Public would've heard of. At least > this > > > way we're getting a few minutes of HW documentary on the telly for the > first > > > time. > > > > Yes, but who would it be? I'd have to include Farflung, DarXtar > > and the Ozrics along with Hawkwind, also ST37 because I'm just that way, > > but who else really? Are there ten really good space-rock groups? Have > > there been? I think a full ten would have to include some real lame > > ones. Yours, > > Jon > > > > -- > > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > > =================================================================== > > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 15 00:49:29 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:19:29 +1030 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: I read previously someone said hire an Island How about my Island :) (((get it)) nudge - nudge; wink - wink; say no more O>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Strobridge To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: Re: Canterbury festival > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ted Jackson > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 5:13 PM > Subject: Re: Canterbury festival > > > > I hate to introduce such a bummer, but is there a chance that the > > current calamity over foot-and-mouth disease will cast a pall on > > Hopefully by August and Canterbury the worst will be over and any > camping restrictions lifted. However anything planned for May or > June may well be in jeopardy since it is only 3 weeks since the > start of the outbreak and with an incubation period of 3 weeks, and > cases still rising in number and speading, any outdoor festivals are > going to be out of the question until it's clearly confined again. > Also given that Cumbria is one of the areas at greatest risk just > now the Lake District is going to be out of bounds for quite a while > I'd have thought. Conversely, however, once it *is* over I guess > they'll be delighted to have a Festival somewhere, if only to bring > some much needed money into the area. > > It's just as well Glastonbury has already been cancelled this year. > My guess is that it would have been very unlikely to go ahead if > that had originally been the intention. In fact I hope Michael > Eavis's cows are ok! > > A show in London will be no risk at all but Devon has major problems > just now. I don't know if Dave (Hawkwind) will be affected by > this? Anyone? > > jill > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 15 00:50:37 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:20:37 +1030 Subject: Hawkwind CD's Message-ID: Stuff ther tax man put me down for ALEN 4 the millisecond it arrives Andy!! Thanks Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 5:52 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind CD's i made some enquries today and the result is that we should have ltd quantities of the CD's 'Alien 4', 'Captured Rotation', 'Sonic Attack', the 'Love In Space' CD single, and something else I've foirgotten....oh yes, the 'White Zone' CD, here in stock at CDS towers by end of week, if anyone wants any of these,OK. This has been the usual message and it won't self-destruct in 5 seconds, Andy Garibaldi andygee at dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: colm mcwilliams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 5:11 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! I've seen Alien 4 recently in tower records in picadilly london if that helps? colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Joe Loehr Sent: 14 March 2001 00:37 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! In a message dated 3/13/01 5:56:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: So anyone know where I can get Alien 4 and/or Love In Space? -- Well, CDZone (www.cdzone.co.uk) has Alien 4 listed . . . Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 15 00:51:50 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:21:50 +1030 Subject: HW: (non)-availability/ delay punishment Message-ID: Are we being punished for something - Hey , I wasn't even there man ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Loehr To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:54 AM Subject: Re: HW: (non)-availability/ delay punishment In a message dated 3/14/01 2:29:14 AM US Eastern Standard Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: It's because Dave wants full-total commitment and dedication, and when we try to split our attention /funds between HW and Pearl Jam,,,,,we get punished... Why am I being punished, I don't like Pearl Jam! True, I do buy other CDs, and I just bought a new 12-string geetar, but that's only so I can more effectively better play Hawk songs. So maybe can Cap'n Dave send me Weird #6? 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Pete ;) At 18:18 14/03/01 -0500, you wrote: >From: "Douglas Pearson" > > > And the Tarot cards included with the set (which is probably what makes >the > > price so high) ARE thoroughly gorgeous (and the artwork is quite >lysergic); > > Wegmuller is/was a very well established Swiss artist (a former flatmate, > > of Swiss descent herself, saw the set in my collection and said, "wow! I > > had no idea he made an album!"). The cards show considerable talent in > > that area. > > How much are the cards worth? I found them listed >New Age Tarot Deck - $25 AUS >New Age (Neuzeit) Tarot Deck - $36 AUS > >www.mindbodyspirit.com.au > >Jerry From dahl at AROS.NET Thu Mar 15 01:55:01 2001 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:55:01 -0700 Subject: BOC: Remastered CDs (+ speculation) Message-ID: > Also, has anyone on the list heard the quad LPs? how do they compare? I had the quad LP for ST (and may still have it somewhere). It sounded very different than the stereo version. You could really tell on the vocals for Career of Evil, a lot of serparation. So am I to understand that all the current ST CD's have the skip problem in Cagey Cretins? What up with that? ST will probably be the first remaster I buy. Brad Dahl From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Thu Mar 15 02:39:24 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:39:24 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 Space Rock Message-ID: Bit further off the beaten track...........but does anyone know what happened to 'Back to the Planet'. One time xlnt support band of Hawkwind?????? Lead singer had an unbelievably great voice and I've got an album or two of theirs somewhere but can't remember details. Just remember dancing long and hard to them!! Samantha Kirwan -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: 15 March 2001 05:33 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Top 10 Space Rock >> Anyone else? Alien Dream comes to mind 8>B ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:09 AM Subject: Re: HW: Top 10 Space Rock > well my top ten are marked ++ but a list to consider is: > ++Krel > ++Spacehead > ++Farflung > Darxtar > ++Starfield > ++Bethany Curve (Ok - the 'Gold' album anyway) > ++Architectural Metaphor > ++Amon Duul 2 > Helios Creed > ++Quarkspace > Falcon Project > ++F/i > ++Hawkwind > High Tide > Nektar > Omnia Opera > Strobe > Vocokesh > Alien Planetscapes > Presurehed > Monster Magnet (at a rather big push) > Magic Mushroom Band > The Moor > Dark Sun > > and the psych contingent: > Tribe Of Cro > Ozrics > Mr Quimbys Beard > Ship Of Fools > Melting Euphoria > Korai Orom > Anyone else? > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Jarrett" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock > > > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Nick Lee wrote: > > > > > Yeah, but can you see the Top Ten Of Space Rock getting made? I couldn't > > > name 10 space rock bands that Joe Public would've heard of. At least > this > > > way we're getting a few minutes of HW documentary on the telly for the > first > > > time. > > > > Yes, but who would it be? I'd have to include Farflung, DarXtar > > and the Ozrics along with Hawkwind, also ST37 because I'm just that way, > > but who else really? Are there ten really good space-rock groups? Have > > there been? I think a full ten would have to include some real lame > > ones. Yours, > > Jon > > > > -- > > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > > =================================================================== > > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Thu Mar 15 03:03:27 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:03:27 +0000 Subject: HW: (non)-availability In-Reply-To: <000501c0acbf$fe28ed80$9797bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: At 19.46 +0000 14.3.2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >We have been told that Weird 6 is NOT deleted - just out of print - >Voiceprint apparently do intend to press more - just a question of 'when' >and the reason it's out I think is that it sold better, but if there's been >any legal problem, then I don't know about it. I assume it's because it's "the Lemmy years" one, and if people were going to buy just one of the Weird CDs and hadn't ever heard them (and that's probably a lot of people), then they would pick number 6. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Mar 15 03:04:59 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:04:59 +0000 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi In-Reply-To: <200103142135.QAA25795@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Moorcock would be a bit left-wing, then ... ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Mar 15 03:29:11 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:29:11 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > irk the purists :-) R. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Thu Mar 15 03:35:20 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:35:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, >Would people consider Magma (who I've never heard- something I really >need to rectify) spacerock? I don't think they're are space-rock band in the classical sense (especially if you compare them to the other bands on the list). Though their lyrics (if you can understand Kobaian ) are space-related their music definitely is more of a Jazz-Fusion-Rock mixture (also called Zeuhl-music). Thus one could call them Semi-Space-Rock ;-). That's only my opinion of course, and I'm sure other people here have differing ones. (c)AIO D+R np: Magma "Kohntarkosz" -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 15:45:33 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:45:33 +0000 Subject: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? In-Reply-To: <200103142011.PAA25344@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200103142011.PAA25344 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes > >One of the best krautrock albums ever IMO. Much more "song"-oriented than >any of the other Cosmic Jokers etc. Who were utterly fantastic. > >The longer I've owned the set, the more I think that it actually *is* worth >the high price ... drool, drool.. .... Hmm...is there actually a Krautrock list anywhere? There isn't a newsgroup that I can find. A lot of this stuff is a pig to find, let alone afford, when your collecting nearly _an entire country_! Anyone up for trading CD-R's? (which I will pay for when I source an original, or delete. *Of course*) -- Jon From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Thu Mar 15 05:28:00 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:28:00 +0100 Subject: HW:Top 10 space rock Message-ID: Hawkwind Ozric tentacles Mantric Muse Alien Planetscapes Korai ?r?m Architectural Metaphor Dark Sun Spacious Mind Ole Lukk?ye GONG scott ObCD: Scorched Earth-Fed to the head (UK 2001) From r.burton at HW.AC.UK Thu Mar 15 05:48:54 2001 From: r.burton at HW.AC.UK (Rob Burton) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:48:54 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind CD's Message-ID: any chance of keeping a copy of captured rotation until the end of month and payday. rob ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 14 March 2001 19:22 Subject: Re: Hawkwind CD's i made some enquries today and the result is that we should have ltd quantities of the CD's 'Alien 4', 'Captured Rotation', 'Sonic Attack', the 'Love In Space' CD single, and something else I've foirgotten....oh yes, the 'White Zone' CD, here in stock at CDS towers by end of week, if anyone wants any of these,OK. This has been the usual message and it won't self-destruct in 5 seconds, Andy Garibaldi andygee at dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: colm mcwilliams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 5:11 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! I've seen Alien 4 recently in tower records in picadilly london if that helps? colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Joe Loehr Sent: 14 March 2001 00:37 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! In a message dated 3/13/01 5:56:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: So anyone know where I can get Alien 4 and/or Love In Space? -- Well, CDZone (www.cdzone.co.uk) has Alien 4 listed . . . Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat at THE-MILLS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Mar 15 07:47:12 2001 From: pat at THE-MILLS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Patrick Bloomfield) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:47:12 +0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 14 Mar 2001 to 15 Mar 2001 - Special issue (#2001-103) Message-ID: Subject: Re: HW: Top 100 Album Covers It was the Daily Mail. It featured the top 100 record covers (including singles)as judged by 'Q' magazine. Space Ritual was no.35. No. 1 was 'God Save The Queen' by the Sex Pistols. Mick I was roaming round one of the web sites recommended in the "digest collectables" thread (thanks for all comments) and check out the price of Sex Pistols material. "God save the Queen" is worth a stagering ?2000! No wonder I never found one at a car boot, eventually got Silver Machine though, although not quite in the same league value wise :-) Pat Bloomfield _______________________________________________________________________ FSmail - Get your free web-based email from Freeserve: www.fsmail.net From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Mar 15 07:55:43 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 06:55:43 -0600 Subject: nomads Message-ID: Anyone know if Nomads of the time stream has an email address? STEPHE From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Mar 15 08:05:31 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:05:31 -0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 14 Mar 2001 to 15 Mar 2001 - Special issue (#2001-103) In-Reply-To: <20010315124712.20394.qmail@fsmail.net> Message-ID: > "God save the Queen" is > worth a stagering ?2000! Only the unreleased A&M version. R. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Mar 11 09:22:16 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:22:16 -0000 Subject: BOC: Remastered CDs (+ speculation) Message-ID: > Also, has anyone on the list heard the quad LPs? how do they compare? I still have my copy of TM in SQ quadraphonic. Back in the seventies I had the whole quad deal, and I remember the first time I played it in SQ it was just mind blowing!. Even when replayed in just plain stereo it was far superior to the original mix. Such a superb album, that really benefited from quad mixing. GARY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 15 08:22:24 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:22:24 +0000 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Carl Edlund Anderson writes >Moorcock would be a bit left-wing, then ... ;) Well he generally styles himself an anarchist and I think the essay Doug quoted was in some anarchist journal originally. He has also written that the most important thing is to be a feminist first and anything else second. He's apparently a big fan of radical feminist Andrea Dworkin. To be honest- dons flameproof suit again- his political moralising is one of the things that puts me off his writing. In the aforementioned essay, while he rightly comments on the far-right nature of certain sci-fi writers, he also basically says that one shouldn't read any of this stuff, and that the political thrust of a piece of writing is more important than anything else about it. To me that's dangerously close to the PC-gone-mad argument that if you like (say) Shakespeare then you must be a racist, 'cos he's a Dead White European Male etc. etc. Or if you're interested in Nietzsche then you must be a Nazi, because Hitler liked him too. I dunno, I used to read MM a lot, and after a while I just felt I was being beaten over the head with the same none-too-subtle arguments rather too much. "The Entropy Tango" retains a special place in my heart though. -- Nick Medford From CCollins54 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 15 09:23:07 2001 From: CCollins54 at AOL.COM (CCollins54 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:23:07 EST Subject: HW:weird 6-non punish Message-ID: Hello all: I have all the weird tapes in stock along with Spacebrock, Atomhenge, Paradogs, Family Tree etc. They are $20.00 each including shipping - send order to P. O. Box 307, Crete, Illinois 60417. Peace and Love, Jim Collins From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Mar 15 10:13:49 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:13:49 -0500 Subject: BOC: Remastered CDs (+ speculation) Message-ID: > So am I to understand that all the current ST CD's have the skip > problem in > Cagey Cretins? What up with that? > During the guitar solo, there is a wavering of the sound - sounds sort of like someone leaned on the tape real for a half second and caused it to slow down briefly. Bolle says it was caused by some dirt or something on the tape real that slightly interfered with the tape mechanism, and that by baking the master tapes first, this will be corrected. Note: The Axekiller package of Tyranny and Mutation and Secret Treaties fixed this flaw as well, so it certainly can be done. John From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 15 10:48:58 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:48:58 +0000 Subject: nomads In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6CF7@HERMES> Message-ID: In article <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6CF7 at HERMES>, Stephen Lindas writes >Anyone know if Nomads of the time stream has an email address? STEPHE Yup, John Davey who runs Nomads can be found at JaydeDesign at compuserve.com -- Jon From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Mar 15 10:50:31 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:50:31 -0600 Subject: nomads Message-ID: I thought it was run by D.J.ROWE in Scotland. That is who I am trying to contact. Is John Davey the U.S. Nomads? THANKS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Jon Browne [mailto:jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:49 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: nomads In article <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6CF7 at HERMES>, Stephen Lindas writes >Anyone know if Nomads of the time stream has an email address? STEPHE Yup, John Davey who runs Nomads can be found at JaydeDesign at compuserve.com -- Jon From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Thu Mar 15 11:26:38 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:26:38 -0700 Subject: HW:weird 6-non punish Message-ID: Jim. Would you be willing to hold a copy of #3 & #6 for me? I need to get up some fundage. Pam CCollins54 at AOL.COM wrote: > Hello all: > > I have all the weird tapes in stock along with Spacebrock, Atomhenge, Paradogs, Family Tree etc. They are $20.00 each including shipping - send order to P. O. Box 307, Crete, Illinois 60417. > > Peace and Love, > > Jim Collins -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace David Blair wrote: >I'd be >surprised if there's any restrictions on travel in the EU yet. If >there's currently no restrictions on where you want to go, and there's >still a couple of months until you go, I'd wait and see if it gets any >worse/better before cancelling. There are no restrictions on EU travel yet- people can travel freely but their sandwiches can't. Stansted is plastered with notices that people should eat or bin anything containing meat or dairy produce before they fly, and Genoa airport has signs advising anyone carrying meat or dairy stuff to dispose of it somewhere it can't be got at by animals. I think the most danger to the festival comes not from international travel restrictions but from the control of movement on farm land. Does anyone know if the festival site is on farmland or is accessed by paths or roads that run through farmland? Mark NP: ICU- Newanatomy From micci at SCI.FI Thu Mar 15 12:33:01 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:33:01 +0200 Subject: OFF:Dark Sun News Message-ID: Hi! Important Dark Sun news. Dark Sun homesite has been removed ! More details, go to Finnwind/ Official Finnish Hawkwind Association pages: http://www.sci.fi/~micci ps. If anyone like to join Official Finnish Hawkwind Association, contact finn.wind at sci.fi Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From micci at SCI.FI Thu Mar 15 12:33:06 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:33:06 +0200 Subject: HW: Hawklords LP USA 12" Promo. Message-ID: Strange, my 12" is with sheet too. I bought it from sweden. >Johan Edlundh asked about the Promo sheet: >>OK! the previous Hawklords LP's I was bellowing about were the long play >records, but you know that...... >The 12" Promo USA is actually not real uncommon, BUT ALAS!!!!! BOB >CALVERT shines upon you.....IT IS RARE WITH THAT SHEET........ >I have about 10-12 copies lying around here... ..none of them came with the >sheet.... >a friend of Bob Lennon's has one with the sheet......it's the only one >we've heard of!!! >any chance of trading/copying/selling one of your 3?????? Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 15 12:07:20 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:07:20 +0000 Subject: nomads In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6CFC@HERMES> Message-ID: In article <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6CFC at HERMES>, Stephen Lindas writes >I thought it was run by D.J.ROWE in Scotland. That is who I am trying to >contact. Is John Davey the U.S. Nomads? THANKS STEPHE True, I've sent cheques to DJ for stuff, but any correspondence I've had has been with John, who is in London. John is Mike's Special Editor. I don't have DJ's address, I'm not even sure he's online as he's never posted to the Nomads list, whereas John posts Nomad-news fairly regularly. If DJ's reachable that way, John will be able to tell you. JaydeDesign at compuserve.com -- Jon From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Mar 15 13:54:53 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:54:53 -0000 Subject: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? Message-ID: try www.krautrock.org Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Browne" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:45 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? > In article <200103142011.PAA25344 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson > writes > > > >One of the best krautrock albums ever IMO. Much more "song"-oriented than > >any of the other Cosmic Jokers etc. > > Who were utterly fantastic. > > > > >The longer I've owned the set, the more I think that it actually *is* worth > >the high price ... > > drool, drool.. .... > > > Hmm...is there actually a Krautrock list anywhere? There isn't a > newsgroup that I can find. A lot of this stuff is a pig to find, let > alone afford, when your collecting nearly _an entire country_! Anyone up > for trading CD-R's? (which I will pay for when I source an original, or > delete. *Of course*) > > -- > Jon From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Mar 15 14:00:56 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:00:56 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind CD's Message-ID: no problem whatsoever - will do so yuo just remind me when yuo want it, OK. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Burton To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind CD's any chance of keeping a copy of captured rotation until the end of month and payday. rob ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 14 March 2001 19:22 Subject: Re: Hawkwind CD's i made some enquries today and the result is that we should have ltd quantities of the CD's 'Alien 4', 'Captured Rotation', 'Sonic Attack', the 'Love In Space' CD single, and something else I've foirgotten....oh yes, the 'White Zone' CD, here in stock at CDS towers by end of week, if anyone wants any of these,OK. This has been the usual message and it won't self-destruct in 5 seconds, Andy Garibaldi andygee at dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: colm mcwilliams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 5:11 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! I've seen Alien 4 recently in tower records in picadilly london if that helps? colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Joe Loehr Sent: 14 March 2001 00:37 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkwind PXR5 Album Very rare CD on ebay!!! In a message dated 3/13/01 5:56:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: So anyone know where I can get Alien 4 and/or Love In Space? -- Well, CDZone (www.cdzone.co.uk) has Alien 4 listed . . . Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 15 13:53:04 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:53:04 +0000 Subject: HW : found on alt.music.progressive Message-ID: some of you might need some of this stuff. I have no connection to them. (and as I'm building an extension to the shop at the moment, no cash to spend either!) Jon _______________________________________________________________ > HAWKWIND TITLE DETAILS CAT No. UK PND 7" SINGLES 1 Kerb Crawler uk CB 289 8 2 Motorway City uk ps FLS 025 5 3 Motorhead uk ps FLS 205 5 4 needle gun uk ps fls 032 6 5 PSI Power uk CB 323 8 6 Quark, Strangers & Charm uk CB 305 8 7 shot down in the night uk ps ex.vg bro98 4 8 Silver Machine uk UP 35381 3 9 Silver Machine uk pic disc UPP 35381 8 10 social alliance - d brock uk ps fls024 8 11 Urban Guerrilla uk UP 35566 10 12 who's gonna win the war - hawklords uk ps ex.vg fls209 4 13 wind of change - lloyd langton uk ps fls021 7.5 14 Your last chance e.p. uk ps FLS 214 5 15 zones - dr technical & machines uk ps hwfb1 10 LP's 16 the rock file - 7trks uk ps lbr1012 6 17 live 70 to 73 - 10trks uk ps dojolp11 5 18 hawkwind 1973 - bring me the head.... uk ps dm002 8 19 the text of festival - 10trks dble LP uk ps jams 29 12 20 anthology vol 2 - 8trks uk ps samr039 8 21 anthology vol 3 - 9trks uk ps samr040 8 22 sonic attack - 10 trks uk ps rcalp6004 18 23 masters of the universe - 6trks uk ps fa3008 5 24 hawkwind - 7trks uk ps 1972921 5 25 friends and relations - 8 trks uk ps sharp 107 8 26 friends and relations vol 3 - 8trk uk ps sharp024 8 27 elegy - 10trks - lloyd langton group uk ps llg77 10 28 blakes new jerusalem - 5 trks france ps with insert 90288 20 29 the xenon codex - 10trks die cut ps gwlp26 8 30 doremi fasol latido uk ps k22p246 20 31 utopia 1984 - 10trk belgium ps skull8369 8 32 undisclosed files w.label fan club release uk ps white label 15 33 zones - 10trk uk ps sharp014 9 34 live: the business trip - 16trk dble LP uk ps ebslp111 20 35 hall of the mountain grill - 8trk uk ps lbg29672 6 36 space bandits - 7trk uk ps gwlp103 8 37 live 79 - 7trk uk ps bron527 8 38 out and intake - 11trk uk ps sharp040 5 39 space rituals - 10trk dble LP uk ps apk8 14 40 black sword - 11trk uk ps sharp033 10 41 live chronicles - 23trk dble LP uk ps gwsp1 8 42 church of hawkwind - 12 trk uk ps rcalp9004 20 43 this is hawkwind do not panic - 9trk dble LP uk ps sharp022 14 44 space ritual, live - 16trk dble LP uk ps uad60037 30 45 choose your masques - 10trk uk ps rcalp6055 18 46 independent days - 6trk 10" uk ps sharp 019 10 47 stasis: the u.a. years 71-75 - 11trk uk ps nts300 8 48 the text of festival, live 70-7210trk dble LP uk ps jams29 12 49 hawkwind uk p.disc 1972921 15 50 roadhawks - 8trks - no stickers gtfld ps uak29919 10 51 the collection - 18trks dble LP gtfld ps ccslp148 7.5 52 lucky leif & longships 11trks robert calvert gtfld ps golp2 5 53 captain locheed & starfighters rob calvert gtfld ps uag29507 25 54 fresh blood- steve swindells uk ps k50738 10 55 the agents of chaos- 11trk - dave brock uk ps sharp042 10 56 like an arrow through the heart 11trk l langton uk ps gas4014 10 57 outside the law 8trk & single lloyd langton uk ps sharp015 12.5 58 night air- 10trk - lloyd langton grp uk ps sharp026 10 59 time space and llg- 10trk - lloyd langton grp uk ps gwlp27 10 60 earthed to the ground - 9trk - dave brock uk ps sharp018 9 61 hawkfan 12 uk ps bag badge 12 75 12" SINGLES 62 25 years - hawklords uk grey vinyl ps 2004 15 63 silver machine - 3 trks uk ps hw12001 5 64 silver machine - 2trks uk ps 12up35381 8 65 hurry on sundown - 3trks uk ps flep100 10 66 night of the hawks- 2trk uk ps flep104 10 67 dreams that fade away- 2trk- lloyd langton grp uk ps 12huw1 6 68 seven light years- 2trk- underground zero uk ps under001 10 69 zoo - 3trk uk ps flep100 10 CD ALBUMS 70 text of the festival live 1970 - 72 9trks uk ps tb068 5 71 statis - ua years 71 to 75 - 15trks uk ps 7466942 8 72 distant horizons - 11trks uk ps ebs139 10 73 strange trips& pipe dreams 13trks d brock uk digi ps ebs116 10 CD SINGLES 74 gimme shelter ft samantha fox gimme shelter cd 80576 5 75 love in space 3 mixes uk promo card ps ebcd106 5 76 love in space 3 mixes uk card ps ebcd106 5 BOOKS & MAGAZINES etc 77 orbit fanzine no9 1 78 orbit fanzine no10 1 79 hawkfan fanzine 11 2 80 hawkfan fanzine 13 2 81 hawkfan fanzine 14 2 82 hawkfan fanzine 15 2 83 hawkfan fanzine 16 2 84 hawkfan fanzine 17 2 85 hawkfan fanzine 18 2 86 hawkfan fanzine 19 2 87 hawkfan fanzine 20 2 88 hawkfan fanzine 21 2 89 hawkfan fanzine 22 2 90 hawkfan fanzine 23 2 91 hawkfrendz fanzine win93 2 92 ground zero 6 x fanzines various 4 93 world tour ticket & tour mag norwich uea 08.10.97 7.5 94 ticket stubb brixton academy 14 aug 4 95 ticket stubb brixton academy 21.10.95 4 96 ticket stubb hammersmith 13 mar 2 97 tour programme earth ritual 1984 10 98 tour programme the tour 1988 7.5 99 tour programme levitation tour 1980 10 100 tour programme chronicle of black sword 1985 10 >GUARANTEE & CONDITIONS. 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Phone and fax (44) 01603 630130. email. martin at circularsound.demon.co.uk WEBPAGE. circularsound.demon.co.uk -- Jon Browne From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Mar 15 13:42:28 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:42:28 -0000 Subject: HW: ICU Blood & Bone 12" for sale Message-ID: Hi, Title says it all really. Please e-mail me if interested or require further details jeremy at dacombe.fsnet.co.uk Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 15 14:13:06 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:13:06 +0000 Subject: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? In-Reply-To: <00b901c0ad82$d5bd98a0$6b9abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: In article <00b901c0ad82$d5bd98a0$6b9abc3e at s8d3c4>, ANDREW GARIBALDI writes >try >www.krautrock.org um, is it me or what ....? -- Jon From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Mar 15 14:46:21 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:46:21 -0500 Subject: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:45:33 +0000, Jon Browne wrote: >Hmm...is there actually a Krautrock list anywhere? isi-l is the krautrock mailing list. I'm not sure what the subscription/domain details are, though. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Mar 15 14:54:52 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:54:52 -0500 Subject: HW: Top 10 Space Rock Message-ID: My 2 cents: Hawkwind Gong Amon Du?l II Neu Cosmic Jokers Chrome F/i Alien Planetscapes Metabolismus ST37 -Doug ceres at sirius.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Mar 15 15:00:57 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:00:57 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 Space Rock Message-ID: >Bit further off the beaten track...........but does anyone know what >happened to 'Back to the Planet'. One time xlnt support band of >Hawkwind?????? Lead singer had an unbelievably great voice and I've got an >album or two of theirs somewhere but can't remember details. Just remember >dancing long and hard to them!! > >Samantha Kirwan Last I can remember seeing them was before Nik's Space Ritual '94 gig in the Rainbow Dragon tent at Glastonbury, can't think of hearing much of them since. Nick From joe.e at TELIA.COM Thu Mar 15 17:20:17 2001 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:20:17 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawklords LP USA 12" Promo. Message-ID: At 18:49 2001-03-14 -0600, you wrote: >Johan Edlundh asked about the Promo sheet: > >OK! the previous Hawklords LP's I was bellowing about were the long play >records, but you know that...... > >The 12" Promo USA is actually not real uncommon, BUT ALAS!!!!! BOB >CALVERT shines upon you.....IT IS RARE WITH THAT SHEET........ > > >I have about 10-12 copies lying around here... ..none of them came with the >sheet.... > >a friend of Bob Lennon's has one with the sheet......it's the only one >we've heard of!!! > >any chance of trading/copying/selling one of your 3?????? well, if I could find any of the others. actually, I don't remember if I've sold/traded/gave away any of the spare copies earlier. but give me a week or two to wade through all my asorted hw papers, and let's see. If I don't find any of those extra originals, I can surely copy the one that's now together with the vinyl, but you'll receive it in A4 format. I can add my HW/Van der Graaf insert sheet Swedish to English translation to that, which might be of interest too. my copy is the only one that I've seen with this sheet (Record Heaven/Malmoe bought) - and I think I've seen about 10 different copies, all in Sweden. peace, .joe >if not...I'll go bug Dave (bob's friend)..think he said he'd sell it.... > > >awaiting... > >mc From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 15 17:23:33 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:23:33 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawklords LP USA 12" Promo-EVIL EYE In-Reply-To: <200103151733.f2FHX6o10868@vasta.saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: >Strange, my 12" is with sheet too. I bought it from sweden. Thats because we in USA are just "Buffalo Herds"..haha... I need a copy from one of you!! From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 15 17:36:03 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:36:03 -0600 Subject: HW: Top 10 wicked trixxx In-Reply-To: <200103151954.OAA02757@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: seconded on the NEU! the devil's down with that NEU!! essentially has to be there......... my 10 list was going to be all the HW offshoots, but I figured you all are aNEU'd enough.... RRRAAAHHHHH!!!! oH and THE COURIERS THE COURIERS!!!!! after all the jacks are in their boxes (joke! joke!).... I'd even put Steve Hillage....but I guess thats cause I just bought the transcription LP's....in the mood.... so ....TOMMY doesn't have RAVEN THAT ATE THE MOON Huh??? Doug...where can 2 copies of this be obtained (please , sir, if you know)...... >My 2 cents: > >Hawkwind >Gong >Amon Du?l II >Neu >Cosmic Jokers >Chrome >F/i >Alien Planetscapes >Metabolismus >ST37 > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From coral at APORT.RU Thu Mar 15 18:47:01 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:47:01 +0300 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? My list: Electric Tepee Warrior On The Edge Of Time Hawklords - 25 Years On Live Chronicles Xenon Codex ----- Alissa From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Mar 15 19:03:31 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:03:31 -0000 Subject: top five hawk albums In-Reply-To: <000501c0adaa$3ca892a0$f544efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: mine would be: Quark, strangeness and charm Astounding sounds Warrior on the edge of time hall of the mountain grill 25 years on what about a top 10 ten list of favorite hawkwind songs or better still what if you where asked to compile the epoch 3 cd set what songs would you have put on it? Colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Alissa Sent: 15 March 2001 23:47 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: top five hawk albums What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? My list: Electric Tepee Warrior On The Edge Of Time Hawklords - 25 Years On Live Chronicles Xenon Codex ----- Alissa From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 15 18:59:46 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:59:46 +0000 Subject: top five hawk albums In-Reply-To: <000501c0adaa$3ca892a0$f544efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: In message <000501c0adaa$3ca892a0$f544efc3 at ghostwheel2>, Alissa writes >What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? Space Ritual Hall Of The Mountain grill Quark strangeness and charm PXR5 Warrior on the Edge -- Nick Medford From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 15 19:09:14 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:09:14 -0600 Subject: top five hawk albums -**** In-Reply-To: <000501c0adaa$3ca892a0$f544efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: I'm not even going there........ when you pile them all together.....they become the "many who are one"...... mike c ps--hi alissa, don't know you, but hi...!! >What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? > >My list: > >Electric Tepee >Warrior On The Edge Of Time >Hawklords - 25 Years On >Live Chronicles >Xenon Codex > >----- >Alissa From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Thu Mar 15 19:07:43 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:07:43 -0800 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Ok, here goes: Warrior on the Edge of Time Quark Strangeness & Charm 25 Years On Space Ritual Hall of the Mountain Grill scorch From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Thu Mar 15 19:27:31 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:27:31 -0500 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: > What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? Hall of the Mountain Grill Palace Springs Space Ritual Warrior on the Edge of Time Quark Strangeness and Charm John Majka jmajka2 at hotmail.com From mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET Thu Mar 15 19:41:52 2001 From: mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET (Mark Robertson) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:41:52 -0000 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Depends upon the hour of the day! Mark All words are one word All albums are one album All songs are one song.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Majka" To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:27 AM Subject: Re: top five hawk albums > > What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? > > Hall of the Mountain Grill > Palace Springs > Space Ritual > Warrior on the Edge of Time > Quark Strangeness and Charm > > John Majka > jmajka2 at hotmail.com From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 15 20:25:51 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:25:51 EST Subject: HW:weird 6-non punish Message-ID: Act'lly, I'm STILL waiting to hear from Voiceprint about #6. ihopeiohpeihope Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 15 20:55:59 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:25:59 +1030 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: > What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? > > My list: > > Electric Tepee > Warrior On The Edge Of Time > Hawklords - 25 Years On > Live Chronicles > Xenon Codex > Alissa Mine would be: Levitation Electric Tepee Chronicle of the Black Sword PXR5 It Is The Business Of The Future To Be Dangerous 6>) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 15 20:56:46 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:26:46 +1030 Subject: top five hawk albums -**** Message-ID: Thats a fair comment ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: Re: top five hawk albums -**** > I'm not even going there........ > > > when you pile them all together.....they become the "many who are one"...... > > > mike c > > > ps--hi alissa, don't know you, but hi...!! > > > >What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? > > > >My list: > > > >Electric Tepee > >Warrior On The Edge Of Time > >Hawklords - 25 Years On > >Live Chronicles > >Xenon Codex > > > >----- > >Alissa From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 15 21:00:39 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:30:39 +1030 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: How about stace.... ritual 8>B ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Regenbrecht To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 11:40 AM Subject: Re: top five hawk albums > Hi, > > >What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? > > I'm a bit of a Calvert-fan, so the first 3 are easy: > > Quark Strangeness and Charm > Hawklords - 25 Years On > PXR5 > > The last two are a bit more tricky and mostly depend upon my mood. At the > moment: > > Warrior otEoT > Space Ritual (or should I better say "Ms Stacia" ;^) > > (c)IAO > > D+R > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 15 21:01:39 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:01:39 -0600 Subject: A Pointless Question-Nosecones??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Who (or is it whom?) was driving the Starship Hawkwind on the cover of >Hall of the Mountain Grill? I hope they had insurance. Joe Barney Bubbles and Kevin Sommers... anyone ever look to see that the nose-cone was originally drawn in??? you can see the faint outline....more prevalent on some copies... also...what are the floating purple thingy's...they seem like blue/purple microdots to me...NOT exhaust.... rocknroll shews From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 15 21:02:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:32:27 +1030 Subject: A Pointless Question Message-ID: That was me - damn tailgaters - and I stress - it was not my fault!!!! ((tee hee hee hee hee)) - my infamous scooby doo laugh! ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Loehr To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: A Pointless Question Who (or is it whom?) was driving the Starship Hawkwind on the cover of Hall of the Mountain Grill? I hope they had insurance. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 15 21:09:15 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:09:15 +0000 Subject: OFF: krautrock sites Message-ID: Is it just me.. but www.krautrock.org seems to redirect to a Japanese site with no English version Anyway the following sites have all the krautrock links any man, woman or giant insect could want: http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb/krautrock/ http://members.tripod.com/~septimus7/musique.html -- Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 15 21:44:59 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:44:59 +0000 Subject: OFF: krautrock sites In-Reply-To: <$ohQEZALXXs6Ewkn@hermit0.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: In message <$ohQEZALXXs6Ewkn at hermit0.demon.co.uk>, Nick Medford writes >Is it just me.. but www.krautrock.org seems to redirect to a Japanese site >with no English version Aha! I missed the .uk off the end of the url. -- Nick Medford From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Mar 15 22:15:53 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:15:53 -0700 Subject: A Pointless Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: TECHNICIANS OF SPACESHIP EARTH We are all co-pilots of Spaceship Earth We are out of control We have lost control Our airlocks are threatened by cosmic rays Invasions from the wounded galaxies By the ectoplasmic leeches of pure enthusiasm And the souls of erection joy Our portholes daubed with mind-eating acids That corrode the perspex shields of vision Our computers have gone crazy And are in need of electrotherapy Our fuel tanks dream of explosion Taste and scent phones send messages Of peace from long lost Earth We are all co-pilots of spaceship Earth Soul brothers in a coma We have lost control Technicians of Spaceship Earth Your captain is dead Your captain is speaking Your captain is dead This is your captain speaking Your captain is dead -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Joe Loehr Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:51 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: A Pointless Question Who (or is it whom?) was driving the Starship Hawkwind on the cover of Hall of the Mountain Grill? 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(o\//^\\/o) . . .`: . .| | | | ,-----''\(|/^\|)/''-----. `': | | | | . . . |:)---'):\|/^\|/:('---(:|,._.='` . | | | | |:| (: |/^\| :).-''|:|-'`` | | | | __|:| (: |/^\| :).-'|:|__ | | |/`'.________====_)___(:__`-Y-'__:)___(_====_______.'`\| cjr `'./_________~~~7/_________^_________\F~~~________\.'` -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Mike Coleman Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 7:02 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: A Pointless Question-Nosecones??? >Who (or is it whom?) was driving the Starship Hawkwind on the cover of >Hall of the Mountain Grill? I hope they had insurance. Joe Barney Bubbles and Kevin Sommers... anyone ever look to see that the nose-cone was originally drawn in??? you can see the faint outline....more prevalent on some copies... also...what are the floating purple thingy's...they seem like blue/purple microdots to me...NOT exhaust.... rocknroll shews From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 15 23:29:26 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:29:26 -0600 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: dear beloved BOC chat personell...... since I am in a hurry to compose a friendly letter to the local police for my front door, dig into my 12 Heinekens , and kick way back for an intimate evening of wonderous private entertainment in loserville, just me, Doug Pearson's Jasret 2CD set-deluxxxe, beer, me, beer, me, Steve Hillage, beer, KHAN, me, smoke, etc...... I make the following goofy post to these fellow listers, in order that it be known that these fellows have now been officially attended to..money despatched, items, and articles SENT! Roll Call: 1) JD (Jeremy)-95 quid the fast way 2) Karl--langton cash is THERE tomorrows sunrise....(or shortly thereafter) 3) Larry Boyd...EGBDF CDR's outta here MANNN 4)Marc Sperhauk...Star Nation comming to get you 5)Darrin Mckeehan T-shirt and Bainbridge priority mail (what do I get now?) (joking) (a blacker eye??) (friendship will totally due) 6) Kevin Sommers...partial despatch....one T-shirt on the way.... and the rest of you I send my love until I get yours out as well....... Rik RXXX PLEASE PLEASE bridge the gap between me and Capt. Rizz's cellphone.... can I help you with your collection....I Have a lot still....and I don't screw mission control around..(smarter than that!) goodnight all.....if your out of drink or smoke, have a slavery to attend early,etc.., I'll consume in cheerful spirit for you...... mike c From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 15 23:55:31 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:25:31 +1030 Subject: A Pointless Question Message-ID: The Lithium crystals overloaded and created an intense sense of wellbeing and calmness - we were too slow to react - tailgaiters took out our port nuclear Trilythium reactors and we had know other course but to attempt a landing on some foul planet......... We have failed you captain Stay tuned for next weeks exciting episode HAWKS IN SPACE!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Loehr To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:33 PM Subject: Re: A Pointless Question In a message dated 3/15/01 9:00:50 PM US Eastern Standard Time, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: - damn tailgaters Just remember: that's what the aft torpedo tubes are for. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Thu Mar 15 23:59:14 2001 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:59:14 +1100 Subject: HW:hawkwind.com updated Message-ID: Hi just checked Hawkwind.com and its been updated with a nice intro graphic. Checking the band page it lists the core band as 5 members :- Dave,Richard,Ron, Jerry & CAPTAIN BLACK- member since 2000 and frequent guests Simon,Harvey,Alan & Captain Rizz + So Captain Black Congratulations and Fellow mysteron's plead with you to talk the band into coming back down under, remember there's a few beers in it for you! regards Marty From grodog at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Mar 16 00:44:48 2001 From: grodog at EARTHLINK.NET (Allan T. Grohe, Jr.) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:44:48 -0800 Subject: nomads Message-ID: > In article <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6CFC at HERMES>, Stephen > Lindas writes > >I thought it was run by D.J.ROWE in Scotland. That is who I am trying to > >contact. Is John Davey the U.S. Nomads? THANKS STEPHE > > True, I've sent cheques to DJ for stuff, but any correspondence I've had > has been with John, who is in London. John is Mike's Special Editor. > > I don't have DJ's address, I'm not even sure he's online as he's never > posted to the Nomads list, whereas John posts Nomad-news fairly > regularly. If DJ's reachable that way, John will be able to tell you. You can also check out http://multiverse.org (which has the official Nomads web site on it). Allan. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan T. Grohe Jr. Visit the Dreaming City-- grodog at earthlink.net http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr I am gray. I stand between the candle, and the star. We are gray. We stand between the darkness, and the light. --- "And The Sky Full of Stars," _Babylon 5_ From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Mar 16 03:20:29 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:20:29 -0700 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Help! I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is surely near. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Mike Coleman Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:29 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post dear beloved BOC chat personell...... since I am in a hurry to compose a friendly letter to the local police for my front door, dig into my 12 Heinekens , and kick way back for an intimate evening of wonderous private entertainment in loserville, just me, Doug Pearson's Jasret 2CD set-deluxxxe, beer, me, beer, me, Steve Hillage, beer, KHAN, me, smoke, etc...... I make the following goofy post to these fellow listers, in order that it be known that these fellows have now been officially attended to..money despatched, items, and articles SENT! Roll Call: 1) JD (Jeremy)-95 quid the fast way 2) Karl--langton cash is THERE tomorrows sunrise....(or shortly thereafter) 3) Larry Boyd...EGBDF CDR's outta here MANNN 4)Marc Sperhauk...Star Nation comming to get you 5)Darrin Mckeehan T-shirt and Bainbridge priority mail (what do I get now?) (joking) (a blacker eye??) (friendship will totally due) 6) Kevin Sommers...partial despatch....one T-shirt on the way.... and the rest of you I send my love until I get yours out as well....... Rik RXXX PLEASE PLEASE bridge the gap between me and Capt. Rizz's cellphone.... can I help you with your collection....I Have a lot still....and I don't screw mission control around..(smarter than that!) goodnight all.....if your out of drink or smoke, have a slavery to attend early,etc.., I'll consume in cheerful spirit for you...... mike c From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Fri Mar 16 04:19:19 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:19:19 +1300 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Help! I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is surely near. I always though it was Confucius (devotion to family & ancestral spirits) for he said "Man with hand in cookie jar not necessarily fu*king crackers" and for the opposite sex he said "Woman who fly upside down in airplane not necessarily have crack up". Oh and I think Confucius would have had a sense of humour as well for he always smiling with his laughing eyes. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Mar 16 04:16:20 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:16:20 +0000 Subject: top five hawk albums In-Reply-To: <000501c0adaa$3ca892a0$f544efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: At 02.47 +0300 16.3.2001, Alissa wrote: >What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? In no order: Doremi Space Ritual Hall of the Mountain Grill Palace Springs After that it gets hard ... there's stuff on Electric Teepee I think is utterly excellent, but there are also too many "filler" tracks for me to rate the album well as a whole :( Maybe: QS&C or even Live Chronicles! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 16 04:54:59 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:24:59 +1030 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post Message-ID: > Help! I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is surely > near. > > KevinSommers Oh crikey ! And I've neved tried a prawn vindalloo......... and i've never read........... a book!!! Oh my whiskers my ears!! From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Mar 16 04:53:41 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:53:41 +0000 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Top, hard pushed for this. so for today its PXR5 25 Years Quark Strangness & Charm Sonic Attack The Business Trip regards iain From coral at APORT.RU Fri Mar 16 04:53:51 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:53:51 +0300 Subject: top five hawk albums -**** Message-ID: > > when you pile them all together.....they become the "many who are > one"...... Yes, and faves can be changed with a time. > > ps--hi alissa, don't know you, but hi...!! Hi :). Alissa From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 16 05:02:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:32:45 +1030 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post Message-ID: Blasphemous sinners!!! Repent thy evil ways Join the TRUE!!!! Church of GOD* and read the TRUE scriptures Yeah the book of CYRIL** doth say: "......even though thou art damned for all eternity and sinners a little while after, ye shall still be allowed to grovell at my feet ...... and sniff the true scent of repentence...." * (( all characters and events are fictional & mostly just not true at all )) ** ((ditto)) 8>B ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Stockwell To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 7:49 PM Subject: Re: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post > > Help! I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is surely > near. > > I always though it was Confucius (devotion to family & ancestral spirits) > for he said "Man with hand in cookie jar not necessarily fu*king crackers" > and for the opposite sex he said "Woman who fly upside down in airplane not > necessarily have crack up". > Oh and I think Confucius would have had a sense of humour as well for he > always smiling with his laughing eyes. > > Regards > > Richard > Cranium Music > http://www.cranium.co.nz > http://www.cranium-music.com > From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Fri Mar 16 05:21:40 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:21:40 +1300 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post In-Reply-To: <002601c0ae00$40657d80$7cd0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: > "......even though thou art damned for all eternity and sinners a little while after, ye shall still be allowed to grovell at my feet ...... and > sniff the true scent of repentence...." At least take those smelly socks off first. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From andy.ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK Fri Mar 16 05:25:03 2001 From: andy.ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK (Andy Ball) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:25:03 +0000 Subject: top five hawk albums -**** In-Reply-To: <004401c0adff$02728820$bf03efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: Here are my top 5 HW albums for today... (in no particular order) Space Ritual Levitation Love in Space Quark Hall of the Mountain Grill Cheers, Andy From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 16 05:43:30 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:13:30 +1030 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post Message-ID: Wot socks? 8>B ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Stockwell To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 8:51 PM Subject: Re: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post > > "......even though thou art damned for all eternity and sinners a little > while after, ye shall still be allowed to grovell at my feet ...... and > > sniff the true scent of repentence...." > > At least take those smelly socks off first. > > Regards > > Richard > Cranium Music > http://www.cranium.co.nz > http://www.cranium-music.com > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Mar 16 05:43:27 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:43:27 +0000 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: It might just be me......but I thought that Alien 4 was a bit....erm.......below the usual standards. Am I alone on that one? As for top five Hawkwind albums, it's have to be; Live Chronicles, Hawkwind, Doremi, Hall of the Mountain Grill, In search of Space. Though I wouldn't put it in the top 5, I do also Love Astounding sounds, amazing music.......and Space Ritual. The two albums I always Loved aswell are Lucky Leaf and the Long Ships, and Captain Lockheid and the Star Fighters. Fantastic!! I could listen to them for hours!! Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/16/01 01:55am >>> > What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? > > My list: > > Electric Tepee > Warrior On The Edge Of Time > Hawklords - 25 Years On > Live Chronicles > Xenon Codex > Alissa Mine would be: Levitation Electric Tepee Chronicle of the Black Sword PXR5 It Is The Business Of The Future To Be Dangerous 6>) From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Mar 16 05:46:38 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 04:46:38 -0600 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post Message-ID: Religion is the prevention of the experience of GOD STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:55 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post > Help! I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is surely > near. > > KevinSommers Oh crikey ! And I've neved tried a prawn vindalloo......... and i've never read........... a book!!! Oh my whiskers my ears!! From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Fri Mar 16 06:03:05 2001 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:03:05 +0000 Subject: A Pointless Question Message-ID: Readers letter in last months VIZ - I was driving down the A5 the other day when I noticed a white van driving really close in my rear view mirror. I tried accelerating away and then putting the brakes on lightly to shake him off but he stuck close to my tail. Imagine my embarrassment when I pulled into a layby to discover it was my own caravan that I was towing... Sorry! M at xine Date sent: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:32:27 +1030 From: Michael W Blackman Subject: Re: A Pointless Question > That was me - damn tailgaters - and I stress - it was not my fault!!!! > > ((tee hee hee hee hee)) - my infamous scooby doo laugh! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Loehr > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:21 PM > Subject: A Pointless Question > > > Who (or is it whom?) was driving the Starship Hawkwind on the cover of Hall > of the Mountain Grill? > > I hope they had insurance. > > Joe > From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Mar 16 06:01:32 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:01:32 -0600 Subject: A Pointless Question Message-ID: ROOBY DOO -----Original Message----- From: Maxine Wesley [mailto:maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:03 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: A Pointless Question Readers letter in last months VIZ - I was driving down the A5 the other day when I noticed a white van driving really close in my rear view mirror. I tried accelerating away and then putting the brakes on lightly to shake him off but he stuck close to my tail. Imagine my embarrassment when I pulled into a layby to discover it was my own caravan that I was towing... Sorry! M at xine Date sent: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:32:27 +1030 From: Michael W Blackman Subject: Re: A Pointless Question > That was me - damn tailgaters - and I stress - it was not my fault!!!! > > ((tee hee hee hee hee)) - my infamous scooby doo laugh! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Loehr > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:21 PM > Subject: A Pointless Question > > > Who (or is it whom?) was driving the Starship Hawkwind on the cover of Hall > of the Mountain Grill? > > I hope they had insurance. > > Joe > From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Fri Mar 16 06:12:17 2001 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:12:17 +0000 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Choose Your Masques 25 Years Space Ritual Warriors on the Edge of Time Astoria - Live 2000 (wishfull thinking?) or if you won't allow that one - Electric Teepee M at xine From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 16 06:52:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:22:27 +1030 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post Message-ID: No... I think people are the prevention the experience of God(dess) religion should just be a tool to aid in that experience sadly some people worship their tools merely because they are more tangible than a Goddess that is not quite so tangible to the average person the more the tool is worshipped the further they get away from the experience they seek - the experience of a closeness with their deity - dig it ?? I think we just had a sermon folks - whoops Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 9:16 PM Subject: Re: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post > Religion is the prevention of the experience of GOD > STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:55 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post > > > > Help! I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is surely > > near. > > > > KevinSommers > > > Oh crikey ! And I've neved tried a prawn vindalloo......... > > and i've never read........... > > > > a book!!! > > Oh my whiskers my ears!! From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Mar 16 06:52:39 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:52:39 -0600 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post Message-ID: blessed be in frith and troth -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:52 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post No... I think people are the prevention the experience of God(dess) religion should just be a tool to aid in that experience sadly some people worship their tools merely because they are more tangible than a Goddess that is not quite so tangible to the average person the more the tool is worshipped the further they get away from the experience they seek - the experience of a closeness with their deity - dig it ?? I think we just had a sermon folks - whoops Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 9:16 PM Subject: Re: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post > Religion is the prevention of the experience of GOD > STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:55 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post > > > > Help! I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is surely > > near. > > > > KevinSommers > > > Oh crikey ! And I've neved tried a prawn vindalloo......... > > and i've never read........... > > > > a book!!! > > Oh my whiskers my ears!! From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Mar 16 04:18:19 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:18:19 -0000 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post Message-ID: > Help! I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is surely near. U R Sam -----Original Message----- From: Richard Stockwell [mailto:richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ] Sent: 16 March 2001 09:19 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post > Help! I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is surely near. I always though it was Confucius (devotion to family & ancestral spirits) for he said "Man with hand in cookie jar not necessarily fu*king crackers" and for the opposite sex he said "Woman who fly upside down in airplane not necessarily have crack up". Oh and I think Confucius would have had a sense of humour as well for he always smiling with his laughing eyes. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Mar 16 05:58:41 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:58:41 -0000 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Good point on Alien 4 Layla, Love in Space is in that category too. Since when did Hawkwind do Lovey-Dovey - almost as bad as Sam Fox & Bridgette Wishart singing for them. Sweet Mistress of Pain (Kissing the Velvet Whip) is the closest Hawkwind seriously get to 'Lurve' - but obviously only in a top Sado- style!! Lockheed is BRILLIANT though - saw one of Bob's last gigs at the Wheatsheaf in Dunstable many years ago. Still brings a tear to my eye thinking about it!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: 16 March 2001 10:43 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: top five hawk albums It might just be me......but I thought that Alien 4 was a bit....erm.......below the usual standards. Am I alone on that one? As for top five Hawkwind albums, it's have to be; Live Chronicles, Hawkwind, Doremi, Hall of the Mountain Grill, In search of Space. Though I wouldn't put it in the top 5, I do also Love Astounding sounds, amazing music.......and Space Ritual. The two albums I always Loved aswell are Lucky Leaf and the Long Ships, and Captain Lockheid and the Star Fighters. Fantastic!! I could listen to them for hours!! Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/16/01 01:55am >>> > What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? > > My list: > > Electric Tepee > Warrior On The Edge Of Time > Hawklords - 25 Years On > Live Chronicles > Xenon Codex > Alissa Mine would be: Levitation Electric Tepee Chronicle of the Black Sword PXR5 It Is The Business Of The Future To Be Dangerous 6>) *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Mar 16 02:08:53 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:08:53 -0000 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Doremi Fasol Latido Astounding Sounds Levitation Live Chronicles Hall of the Mountain Grill ....really only 5??????? Can't we have 25!! 30 maybe..... I'm going to feel really bad now all day as I think of all the albums I chopped off my list..... oh well go with the instincts. Top track has to be Psypower but I don't think it's on any of my 5 albums - what's a girl to do???? Sam -----Original Message----- From: Alissa [mailto:coral at APORT.RU] Sent: 15 March 2001 23:47 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: top five hawk albums What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? My list: Electric Tepee Warrior On The Edge Of Time Hawklords - 25 Years On Live Chronicles Xenon Codex ----- Alissa *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Mar 16 02:13:38 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:13:38 -0000 Subject: A Pointless Question-Nosecones??? Message-ID: Who let that drama queen Delenn drive then?? Sam -----Original Message----- From: Joe Loehr [mailto:JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM] Sent: 16 March 2001 02:09 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: A Pointless Question-Nosecones??? In a message dated 3/15/01 9:00:04 PM US Eastern Standard Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: anyone ever look to see that the nose-cone was originally drawn in??? you can see the faint outline....more prevalent on some copies... I assume the nosecone is on the end sticking up? I seem to see a faint outline there, now that youse mention it. also...what are the floating purple thingy's...they seem like blue/purple microdots to me...NOT exhaust.... Maybe they belong to the Dentrassi? Joe *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 16 09:47:01 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:47:01 -0600 Subject: OFF.."The Stacia Nuptual" In-Reply-To: <001901c0ae0f$93ab6680$36cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: My friend michael b., of whom I grow to like more and more said: (snip) "sadly some people worship their tools merely because they are more tangible than a Goddess that is not quite so tangible to the average person" (snip) This is my Evil philosophy given me straight from his temptership, not the mass legions of lower caste below-me's....... "Close the book, shut your mouth, get your ass off the pew, and go feed some starving kids, or help walk a senior across the street" Too bad I'm too firmly caught in the clutches of Heineken to follow the Devils own good advice.... pit sniper sermon mode:off From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Mar 16 09:49:26 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:49:26 +0000 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post In-Reply-To: <001801c0adff$2b12ec20$7cd0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: >> Help! I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is surely >> near. >> >> KevinSommers Well, here's a clue. It has something to do with Horus. Head for the feeling, Kev. -- Swami Jon From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Mar 16 09:43:17 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:43:17 -0600 Subject: OFF.."The Stacia Nuptual" Message-ID: RELIGION IS THE OPIUM OF THE MASSES AND THE BLIND WILL FOLLOW LIKE SHEEP -----Original Message----- From: Mike Coleman [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 8:47 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF.."The Stacia Nuptual" My friend michael b., of whom I grow to like more and more said: (snip) "sadly some people worship their tools merely because they are more tangible than a Goddess that is not quite so tangible to the average person" (snip) This is my Evil philosophy given me straight from his temptership, not the mass legions of lower caste below-me's....... "Close the book, shut your mouth, get your ass off the pew, and go feed some starving kids, or help walk a senior across the street" Too bad I'm too firmly caught in the clutches of Heineken to follow the Devils own good advice.... pit sniper sermon mode:off From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Fri Mar 16 11:02:02 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:02:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi Message-ID: Nick Medford wrote: > Having said that, despite always having been a sci-fi fan, > I've never enjoyed any sword-and-sorcery stuff (apart from Lord Of The > Rings when I was about 13). I like the Cornelius books for example but- > dons flameproof suit- I've never had the urge to read Elric. You might want to try Tanya Huff's _Wizard of the Grove_. It's a twofer repackaging of _Child of the Grove_ and _The Last Wizard_. I picked it up because the back cover blurb on _Child of the Grove_ said it was set in the time when the race of Man was created as a plaything for Lord Death. At page 100 I was marvelling that she'd already covered more plot ground than most authors put in a trilogy. Everything I've read by her has been very good, but _Wizard of the Grove_ is the most sword-and-sorcery. When I checked Amazon to make sure I got the title right I discovered she has a new book out. Have to stop at the book store on the way home. (-8 John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Mar 16 12:52:03 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:52:03 +0000 Subject: Canterbury festival In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Richard Lockwood wrote: > And producers of some of the finest xenophobic and homophobic ads ever. > > "Shepherd Neame Spitfire - Downed all over Kent. Just Like The Luftwaffe" > "Shepherd Neame Spitfire - only tail-gunners drink lager" > > I have friends (neither German nor gay) who find them quite offensive. > > I laugh my arse off (if you see what I mean), and it's a top pint... My favourite one was just a bottle of Spitfire (which is a top pint as you say though the best ever is still Young's Ramrod) with the legend "Der der-der der der-der-der-der, der der-der der der-der-der-der", which I thought was absolutely great. Offensive yes, but how many people who would have been offended by it would have worked it out? Ah, the fun of ignoring political correctness, yours, Jon ObCD: No Man - _Drycleaning Ray_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Mar 16 12:53:52 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:53:52 +0000 Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: <997CDAC4BBC5D211BE0B0008C70D298F02AE8DAE@lnnt47.london.entoil.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Thomas, Guy wrote: > Austin - great place! Visited twice in the 90's on business > > First beer I ever had in America was a Young's "Ram 'n' Special" in a great > bar called Maggie Mae's, back in 1989 Excellent choice sir! But what on earth was it doing in Texas? It's hard enough to find outside of London! Jealous, yours, Jon (in Cambridge, which boasts no Youngs pubs) -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Mar 16 12:55:09 2001 From: markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM (mark cotton) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:55:09 -0000 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: For what it's worth, my top 5: Hawkwind Warrior on the Edge of Time Quark Strangeness & Charm Live Chronicles (2CD Import) Space Ritual This still misses out fave trax Reefer Madness and Valium 10. Also, Capt. Lockheed is essential, but to me the jury is out on Lucky Leif. Would also like to include as solo's Pipe Dreams, New Jerusalem, Spiral Realms and anything by Alan Davey/Bedouin, who in my humble opinion blows away Lemmy as he did at Brixton Goodnite each Mr. C. >From: Sam Kirwan >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: top five hawk albums >Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:08:53 -0000 > >Doremi Fasol Latido >Astounding Sounds >Levitation >Live Chronicles >Hall of the Mountain Grill > >....really only 5??????? Can't we have 25!! 30 maybe..... I'm going to >feel really bad now all day as I think of all the albums I chopped off my >list..... oh well go with the instincts. > >Top track has to be Psypower but I don't think it's on any of my 5 albums - >what's a girl to do???? > >Sam > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alissa [mailto:coral at APORT.RU] >Sent: 15 March 2001 23:47 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: top five hawk albums > > >What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? > >My list: > >Electric Tepee >Warrior On The Edge Of Time >Hawklords - 25 Years On >Live Chronicles >Xenon Codex > >----- >Alissa > > >*********************************************************************************** >The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files >transmitted >with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the >personal attention >of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, >disclosure or >copying of this document is unauthorised. > >Thank you >NTL >*********************************************************************************** _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Mar 16 12:57:03 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:57:03 +0000 Subject: OFF: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? In-Reply-To: <7a.113c0a6a.27d16a2e@aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Bob Lennon wrote: > In a message dated 3/2/01 10:24:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, > rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM writes: > > > Possession is nine tenths of the law. (So why did I get busted?) > > cause it's the law? Only nine-tenths of it. (But I can't get a-hold of it...) Speaking of which, is anyone clued up enough to remember what Charlie Kennedy said about legalising cannabis after that little spat in the papers between the Tory tokers and Anne Widdicombe? I thought he said the Lib Dems would legalise it (just as the conference has been voting for the last fifteen years) but the website seems to have let that oen slip through the policy-recording cracks... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Mar 16 13:00:20 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:00:20 +0000 Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Arin Komins wrote: > UK folks, anyone happen to know if it is possible for a nonEuro member > to get a job over there? All the *.gov.uk sites I looked at > made it seem highly unlikely...... Arin, it's certainly possible, because list-member Carl Anderson is doing it in Cambridge (which is nice enough, but has no useful music scene and only limited music shops though books and scenery we have in spades); but he made the careful step of getting the job before he moved so that they (eventually) sorted out his work permit. If you trust to the efficiency of the Home Office alone... well, just don't, really. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Mar 16 13:02:33 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:02:33 +0000 Subject: HW:MANDRAGORA LIGHTSHOW SOCIETY/NIK TURNER In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Mike Coleman wrote: > The Mandragora Lightshow Society CD with Nik guesting has been released on > CD here in Texas ...... Mike, if the Devil will leave you alone a minute, can you post the title of that there album for the old files there? Many thanks, yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Mar 16 13:20:16 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:20:16 +0000 Subject: HW Footage In-Reply-To: <200103042050.VAA28695@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > Here are the tapes we have where UG was played > > 27.05.1973, LONDON, WEMBLEY STADIUM > gaga / in the egg / orgone accumulator / wage war / urban guerilla / master > of the universe / welcome / sonic attack / silver machine > > 25.07.1973, SOUTHAMPTON, TOP RANK > gaga / eternal champion / born to go / down through the night / it's so ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > easy / brainbox pollution / black corridor / space is deep / watcher / > warriors / brainstorm / seven by seven / sonic attack / time we left / > master of the universe / standing at the edge / urban guerilla / seeing it > as you really are Bernhard, can you satisfy my curiosity? What's this `Eternal Champion'? A poem I take it, but it doesn't seem to be in the lyrics files I have. Some variant on `Warriors'? Thanks, yours, Jon ObCD: _Sonic Attack_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Mar 16 13:50:47 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:50:47 -0500 Subject: OFF: Shepherd Neame Spitfire (was Re: Canterbury festival) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: These ads can be downloaded as wallpaper at: http://www.shepherd-neame.co.uk/news/index.html?116 I write for an advertising agency, and I think most of the ads on their site are excellent. Brian > On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Richard Lockwood wrote: >> And producers of some of the finest xenophobic and homophobic ads ever. >> >> "Shepherd Neame Spitfire - Downed all over Kent. Just Like The Luftwaffe" >> "Shepherd Neame Spitfire - only tail-gunners drink lager" Jon Jarrett replied: > My favourite one was just a bottle of Spitfire (which is a top > pint as you say though the best ever is still Young's Ramrod) with the > legend "Der der-der der der-der-der-der, der der-der der der-der-der-der", > which I thought was absolutely great. Offensive yes, but how many people > who would have been offended by it would have worked it out? Ah, the fun > of ignoring political correctness, yours, From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Mar 16 14:06:25 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:06:25 -0500 Subject: HW: Top 10 Space Rock Message-ID: Doug P'd... >Hawkwind >Gong >Amon Du?l II >Neu >Cosmic Jokers >Chrome >F/i >Alien Planetscapes >Metabolismus Hey, coincidentally, I just picked up 'SpreiBwartsdrall' or whatever it's called. It really is very good, even though several tracks are obvious 'ripoffs' of Can and Cluster. (And so I'd argue that either of *those* bands would more likely warrant inclusion, but hey...) So, is that the only CD they have out? Grakkl (FAA) P.S. The track 'Blinker' (?) I've already selected for an upcoming a-i.com show on postrock. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Mar 16 14:29:22 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:29:22 -0000 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: 1, In Search Of Space 2.Live '79 3. Space Ritual 4. It's The Business 5 = Xenon Codex Spacebrock Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alissa" To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 11:47 PM Subject: top five hawk albums > What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? > > My list: > > Electric Tepee > Warrior On The Edge Of Time > Hawklords - 25 Years On > Live Chronicles > Xenon Codex > > ----- > Alissa From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Mar 16 14:40:40 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:40:40 -0000 Subject: OFF: krautrock sites Message-ID: OK - got it wrong - will get back to y'all........ Andy Garibaldi P.S. Alien 4 CD NOW IN STOCK at CDS Towers!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 2:09 AM Subject: OFF: krautrock sites > Is it just me.. but www.krautrock.org seems to redirect to a Japanese site > with no English version > > Anyway the following sites have all the krautrock links any man, woman or > giant insect could want: > > http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb/krautrock/ > > http://members.tripod.com/~septimus7/musique.html > > -- > Nick Medford From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Mar 16 14:20:24 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:20:24 -0500 Subject: OFF: Krautrock Message-ID: FYI... The krautrock mailing list is isi at kuci.org, the listowner is Brian MacDonald. I'm guessing the subscription signup is to send the word subscribe in the body of a message sent to the following address... majordomo at kuci.org (This is based on the 'unsubscribe' methodology, with just the 'un' removed.) For Jon, et al., who are frustrated about not being able to find certain CD's of klassik krautrock.... I might be convinced to 'trade' CD-R's of certain titles that are *truly* bordering-on-impossible to find, and that includes all the Germanofon releases that haven't subsequently been reissued by legitimate labels (which *IS* happening now). Like Kraan and Neu! are in the process of becoming legit (soon I'm told), so no need to do those. So you can send a list of particular ones that you absolutely cannot find, and *maybe* I can help you out (I don't want to get into the habit). I've probably got 400 or so krautrock discs to work from, so... Grakkl (FAA) P.S. A note about 'isi'...for some reason, the default response mode is to put the sender of the email you're replying to in the TO: line (at least in Eudora), as opposed to entering the list address (like here, and all the other lists I'm on). It's rather stupid, and takes awhile to remember to switch it every time, lest you have your posts go to just one individual. From bart at ENGAGE.NU Fri Mar 16 14:48:12 2001 From: bart at ENGAGE.NU (Bart Brugmans) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:48:12 +0100 Subject: top five hawk albums In-Reply-To: <00d401c0ae51$58f7e940$7b18bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: 1. DoReMi 2. Warrior on the Edge of Time 3. Space Ritual 4. Space Bandits 5.Electric Tepee --BArt | "Sometimes good guys don't wear white!" | | Visit the Climate IMC: http://www.climateconference.org | | ENGAGE! Tactical Media | Bemuurde Weerd WZ3 NL-3513 BH Utrecht | tel: +31 (0)30 2387516 gsm: +31 (0)6 24798780 | fax: +31 (0)30 2387517 http://www.engage.nu From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Fri Mar 16 15:08:50 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:08:50 +0100 Subject: HW Footage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jon At 18:20 16.03.2001 +0000, you wrote: >> 25.07.1973, SOUTHAMPTON, TOP RANK >> gaga / eternal champion / born to go / down through the night / > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Bernhard, can you satisfy my curiosity? What's this `Eternal >Champion'? A poem I take it, but it doesn't seem to be in the >lyrics files I have. >Some variant on `Warriors'? Its very difficult to say what it is. The tape is not very clear. And I am not a specialist in English language. But in my oppinion it is a mixture of the well known Moorcock poems (WARRIORS, WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF TIME, STANDING AT THE EDGE) At the End MM says: ....ETERNAL CHAMPION....., .....WE ARE THE VETERANS OF A 1000 PSYCHIC WARS...... and .....WE NEED YOU! I do not know if this poem is identical with the poem on the CHICAGO 1974 double CD Hope that helps Bernhard From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Mar 16 15:44:33 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:44:33 +0000 Subject: OFF: krautrock sites In-Reply-To: <00d501c0ae51$59969a40$7b18bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: In message <00d501c0ae51$59969a40$7b18bc3e at s8d3c4>, ANDREW GARIBALDI writes >Alien 4 CD NOW IN STOCK at CDS Towers!!!! pant... slaver... drool... Can I have one? Please pretty please? I sent you an email offlist, not sure if you got it? -- Nick Medford From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Mar 16 15:51:56 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:51:56 -0500 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Just to be different ... Text of Festival (complete 2-LP version, not the incomplete CD!) Space Ritual (2-CD remaster) The 1999 Party (2-CD) Atomhenge 76 (2-CD) Live 77/78 (2-CD) Of course, the last one doesn't exist, but its track list is as follows: disc 1 ------ intro / Reefer Madness Forge of Vulcan / Brainstorm / Steppenwolf Fable of a Failed Race Wind of Change / Jack of Shadows Waiting For My Man / Paranoia Master of the Universe / Welcome to the Future disc 2 ------ intro / Hassan i Sahba Quark, Strangeness and Charm / High Rise / Robot Spirit of the Age / Sonic Attack / Damnation Alley Uncle Sam's on Mars / Iron Dream Death Trap (in other words, the complete repertoire of the Brock / Calvert / House / Shaw / King lineup) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Fri Mar 16 16:00:52 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:00:52 -0000 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: > What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? 1) Space Ritual 2) Hall of the Mountain Grill 3) In Search of Space 4) Astounding Sounds 5) Doremi Dave From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Mar 16 16:10:05 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:10:05 -0500 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > At 02.47 +0300 16.3.2001, Alissa wrote: > >> What about Top Five Hawkwind Albums? > 25 yrs on Electric Teepee Chroncles Live Levitation Alien 4 (!) Mike in Troy NY -- "The Future is something which everyone reaches at the rate of sixty minutes an hour, whatever he does, whoever he is." -- C. S. Lewis From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Mar 16 16:10:35 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:10:35 +0000 Subject: top five hawk albums In-Reply-To: <200103162051.PAA11408@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200103162051.PAA11408 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >Just to be different ... > >Text of Festival (complete 2-LP version, not the incomplete CD!) >Space Ritual (2-CD remaster) >The 1999 Party (2-CD) >Atomhenge 76 (2-CD) >Live 77/78 (2-CD) > >Of course, the last one doesn't exist, Ah, I didn't realise we could vote for non-existent CDs. In which case I'd like to vote for the "Heroes Of The Astral Bong" box-set, that wonderful recording of the legendary jam sessions featuring (amongst others) the Hawks, Can, Jimi Hendrix and J.S.Bach, recorded in quadrophonic audio- visual sensurround at the Festival At The End Of Time. Bob Calvert's rendition of 'Purple Haze' is among the more memorably surreal moments, and the packaging includes a (highly collectible) miniature drug cabinet to aid enjoyment. In fact it's almost as good as 'Space Ritual'. -- Nick Medford From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Mar 16 16:21:32 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:21:32 -0500 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:10:35 +0000, Nick Medford wrote: >Ah, I didn't realise we could vote for non-existent CDs. In which case I'd >like to vote for the "Heroes Of The Astral Bong" box-set, that wonderful >recording of the legendary jam sessions featuring (amongst others) the >Hawks, Can, Jimi Hendrix and J.S.Bach, recorded in quadrophonic audio- >visual sensurround at the Festival At The End Of Time. Bob Calvert's >rendition of 'Purple Haze' is among the more memorably surreal moments, >and the packaging includes a (highly collectible) miniature drug cabinet to >aid enjoyment. > >In fact it's almost as good as 'Space Ritual'. What's the recording date? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Mar 16 16:17:45 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:17:45 -0600 Subject: OFF: A Unique Gift Collection Of Magic Mushroom Lamps & Waterfalls. Message-ID: Fun site of the day . . . http://www.magicmushroomlamps.com/ -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Mar 16 16:28:44 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:28:44 -0500 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Douglas Pearson wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:10:35 +0000, Nick Medford > wrote: > >> Ah, I didn't realise we could vote for non-existent CDs. In which case I'd >> like to vote for the "Heroes Of The Astral Bong" box-set, that wonderful >> recording of the legendary jam sessions featuring (amongst others) the >> Hawks, Can, Jimi Hendrix and J.S.Bach, recorded in quadrophonic audio- >> visual sensurround at the Festival At The End Of Time. Bob Calvert's >> rendition of 'Purple Haze' is among the more memorably surreal moments, >> and the packaging includes a (highly collectible) miniature drug cabinet to >> aid enjoyment. >> >> In fact it's almost as good as 'Space Ritual'. > > > What's the recording date? > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > > The 12th of Never? -- "The Future is something which everyone reaches at the rate of sixty minutes an hour, whatever he does, whoever he is." -- C. S. 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Peace and Love, Jim Collins From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Mar 16 17:08:36 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:08:36 -0000 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Did you get the limited edition blotting paper sleeve with yours then, or the USA promo edition featuring a real mink skin wallet containing used $100.00 bills? ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: Re: top five hawk albums > In message <200103162051.PAA11408 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson > writes > >Just to be different ... > > > >Text of Festival (complete 2-LP version, not the incomplete CD!) > >Space Ritual (2-CD remaster) > >The 1999 Party (2-CD) > >Atomhenge 76 (2-CD) > >Live 77/78 (2-CD) > > > >Of course, the last one doesn't exist, > > Ah, I didn't realise we could vote for non-existent CDs. In which case I'd > like to vote for the "Heroes Of The Astral Bong" box-set, that wonderful > recording of the legendary jam sessions featuring (amongst others) the > Hawks, Can, Jimi Hendrix and J.S.Bach, recorded in quadrophonic audio- > visual sensurround at the Festival At The End Of Time. Bob Calvert's > rendition of 'Purple Haze' is among the more memorably surreal moments, > and the packaging includes a (highly collectible) miniature drug cabinet to > aid enjoyment. > > In fact it's almost as good as 'Space Ritual'. > -- > Nick Medford From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 16 18:31:06 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:31:06 EST Subject: A Pointless Question-Nosecones??? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/16/01 8:55:36 AM US Eastern Standard Time, samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM writes: > Who let that drama queen Delenn drive then?? > > > Damn Minbari, sticking their bony ridges into everything! Only ones who are worse are the fu*king Vorlons! 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I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is surely > near. > > KevinSommers Hail Eris And make mine a BIG yellow submarine ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Mar 16 19:08:13 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:08:13 -0000 Subject: A Pointless Question and a very silly answer - but hey it's Friday Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Loehr To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 1:51 AM Subject: A Pointless Question > Who (or is it whom?) was driving the Starship Hawkwind on the cover of Hall > of the Mountain Grill? > I hope they had insurance. > Joe The Hour Has Come At Last That I Kan Now Reveal The Real Truth. The craft on the cover of the Hall of the Mountain Grill is in fact a large chunk of Mir that came crashing down to Earth and ended up somwhere in a yet to be determined trackless wilderness - most likely someplace in Western Australia. The panic and hysteria caused by the descent of this enormous fragment initiated a massive encaphalic aural energy surge so powerful that it disrupted the fabric of the spacetime continuum and blasted backwards in time conveying an image map so intense that it was picked up by Barney Bubbles while he was dozing in a deckchair in his back garden one hot English summer afternoon. He immediately made the painting and turned it into a cover so that Hawkwind could distribute it with their new album and the whole world would be warned in time. Wonder if it worked? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 16 19:13:27 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:13:27 EST Subject: A Pointless Question and a very silly answer - but hey it's Friday Message-ID: In a message dated 3/16/01 7:11:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time, jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > The Hour Has Come At Last That I Kan Now Reveal The Real Truth. > > The craft on the cover of the Hall of the Mountain Grill is in fact > a large chunk of Mir that came crashing down to Earth and ended up > somwhere in a yet to be determined trackless wilderness - most > likely someplace in Western Australia. The panic and hysteria > caused by the descent of this enormous fragment initiated a massive > encaphalic aural energy surge so powerful that it disrupted the > fabric of the spacetime continuum and blasted backwards in time > conveying an image map so intense that it was picked up by Barney > Bubbles while he was dozing in a deckchair in his back garden one > hot English summer afternoon. He immediately made the painting > and turned it into a cover so that Hawkwind could distribute it with > their new album and the whole world would be warned in time. > > Ah, cool. Mystery solved! Thanks, Jill Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Mar 16 20:14:15 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:14:15 +0000 Subject: top five hawk albums In-Reply-To: <003c01c0ae65$a8575700$150c28d5@starfield> Message-ID: In message <003c01c0ae65$a8575700$150c28d5 at starfield>, Captain Bl at ck writes >Did you get the limited edition blotting paper sleeve with yours then, or >the USA promo edition featuring a real mink skin wallet containing used >$100.00 bills? Neither! Mine is the Japanese audiophile remaster, which comes with live-in Geisha girls and a mighty Samurai sword. It does, of course, include the Philosopher's Stone novelty pendant which I believe is standard on all releases. -- Nick Medford From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Fri Mar 16 20:23:01 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:23:01 -0800 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: > >Did you get the limited edition blotting paper sleeve with yours then, or > >the USA promo edition featuring a real mink skin wallet containing used > >$100.00 bills? > > Neither! Mine is the Japanese audiophile remaster, which comes with live-in > Geisha girls and a mighty Samurai sword. It does, of course, include the > Philosopher's Stone novelty pendant which I believe is standard on all > releases. And in mine I found the special coupon redeemable for Nik Turner. I'm considering putting it up on EBay..... scorch From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Mar 16 20:42:44 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:42:44 +0000 Subject: top five hawk albums In-Reply-To: <200103170123.RAA02432@bob.te-cats.com> Message-ID: In message <200103170123.RAA02432 at bob.te-cats.com>, John H. McCartney writes >And in mine I found the special coupon redeemable for Nik Turner. >I'm considering putting it up on EBay..... Cool! I'd consider a bid- but what would one feed Nik on? Any other points to consider regarding his general upkeep? I'll tell you one thing though- I'm not letting him near my Geishas. It occurred to me that one disadvantage might be having to listen to him practice his sax, but then I remembered- he never practices. -- Nick Medford From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Mar 16 20:13:59 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:13:59 -0700 Subject: top five hawk albums In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Simple: loads and loads of drugs. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Nick Medford Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 6:43 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: top five hawk albums In message <200103170123.RAA02432 at bob.te-cats.com>, John H. McCartney writes >And in mine I found the special coupon redeemable for Nik Turner. >I'm considering putting it up on EBay..... Cool! I'd consider a bid- but what would one feed Nik on? ............ From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 16 22:33:09 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:33:09 -0600 Subject: HW:MANDRAGORA LIGHTSHOW SOCIETY/NIK TURNER In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The title to the Mandragora Lightshow Society is: Beyond The Mushroom Gates....... there you are Jon!!! From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 16 22:38:59 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:38:59 -0600 Subject: HW: Doug Pearson -Jasret In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Attn All Star Warriors.... the following trans: All Be advised to tune into Doug Pearson's JASRET 2CD set.... disc 2 will KILL YOUR HEAD.........BADLY..... you DON'T want to live without this....... I kid you NOT.... mc Congratulations Doug....this is an instant Cool Mill.......(should be) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 16 22:51:01 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:51:01 -0600 Subject: HW..nosecone?, tailpod? + religion In-Reply-To: <62.cc7a18d.27e40627@aol.com> Message-ID: dear folks.....SURVEY!!!! RE: MT GRILL ALBUM COVER: VOTE COUNT NOSECONE :___________ VOTE COUNT TAILPOD: _____________ and this......if anyone thinks I have "slammed" GOD, and love,...then they misunderstood my weird humor.... GOD BLESS......ALL GOOD PEOPLE! bye mc From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 16 23:31:38 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:31:38 -0600 Subject: HW (off) Nik Turner practice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nick Medford wrote: "It occurred to me that one disadvantage might be having to listen to him practice his sax, but then I remembered- he never practices." He practiced in my home here,,,,,,, we need to get a smaller home........but now it's sacred ground....HMMMMMM....this is a problem indeed... also...we could use a new van.......but he made that sacred tooo...... in a predicament.... darn..... mike c *again...please forgive* From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 16 23:48:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:18:45 +1030 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: > ....really only 5??????? Can't we have 25!! 30 maybe..... I'm going to > feel really bad now all day as I think of all the albums I chopped off my > list..... oh well go with the instincts I was preparing to suggest a top 50 Hawkwind album list either that or we could just submit another 5 each day! Mb From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 16 23:51:31 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:21:31 +1030 Subject: OFF.."The Stacia Nuptual" Message-ID: ha ha ha ((demonic echo)) ha ha ha ((demonic echo)) ha ha ha ((demonic echo)) ha ha ha ((demonic echo)) signed Arioch ~ Duke Of Hell ~ ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 1:17 AM Subject: Re: OFF.."The Stacia Nuptual" > My friend michael b., of whom I grow to like more and more said: > > (snip) > "sadly some people worship their tools merely because they are more tangible > than a Goddess that is not quite so tangible to the average person" (snip) > > This is my Evil philosophy given me straight from his temptership, not the > mass legions of lower caste below-me's....... > > > "Close the book, shut your mouth, get your ass off the pew, and go feed > some starving kids, or help walk a senior across the street" > > Too bad I'm too firmly caught in the clutches of Heineken to follow the > Devils own good advice.... > > > pit sniper sermon mode:off From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 16 23:53:18 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:23:18 +1030 Subject: OFF.."The Stacia Nuptual" Message-ID: Keep the qoutes coming ~ we'll start the ULTRA NEW IMPROVED Bible for the 21st century! ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 1:13 AM Subject: Re: OFF.."The Stacia Nuptual" > RELIGION IS THE OPIUM OF THE MASSES AND THE BLIND WILL FOLLOW LIKE SHEEP > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Coleman [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 8:47 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF.."The Stacia Nuptual" > > > My friend michael b., of whom I grow to like more and more said: > > (snip) > "sadly some people worship their tools merely because they are more tangible > than a Goddess that is not quite so tangible to the average person" (snip) > > This is my Evil philosophy given me straight from his temptership, not the > mass legions of lower caste below-me's....... > > > "Close the book, shut your mouth, get your ass off the pew, and go feed > some starving kids, or help walk a senior across the street" > > Too bad I'm too firmly caught in the clutches of Heineken to follow the > Devils own good advice.... > > > pit sniper sermon mode:off > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 17 00:02:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:32:01 +1030 Subject: OFF: krautrock sites Message-ID: > P.S. Alien 4 CD NOW IN STOCK at CDS Towers!!!! sweeeeeeettttttt!!!!! Now I will meditate upon the full LOVE IN SPACE album & WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF TIME becoming available..... :) Mb From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 17 00:04:39 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:34:39 +1030 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: just make sure we have a little advance warning now chaps - I'd like to reserve a little of my time for that one!! 8>B ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 7:59 AM Subject: Re: top five hawk albums > In message <200103162121.QAA11735 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson > writes > > >What's the recording date? > > The end of time of course! I can't tell you exactly when that's coming up, > wouldn't want to start a panic... > -- > Nick Medford From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 17 00:06:41 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:36:41 +1030 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: > Did you get the limited edition blotting paper sleeve with yours then, or > the USA promo edition featuring a real mink skin wallet containing used > $100.00 bills? awwww man an I thought that was just a lame sales gimmick and passed it up! 8>B From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 17 00:09:33 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:39:33 +1030 Subject: A Pointless Question and a very silly answer - but hey it's Friday Message-ID: Would you like tro collaborate on some spaqced out science fiction space rock fantasy novells hee hee ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Loehr To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: Re: A Pointless Question and a very silly answer - but hey it's Friday In a message dated 3/16/01 7:11:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time, jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: The Hour Has Come At Last That I Kan Now Reveal The Real Truth. The craft on the cover of the Hall of the Mountain Grill is in fact a large chunk of Mir that came crashing down to Earth and ended up somwhere in a yet to be determined trackless wilderness - most likely someplace in Western Australia. The panic and hysteria caused by the descent of this enormous fragment initiated a massive encaphalic aural energy surge so powerful that it disrupted the fabric of the spacetime continuum and blasted backwards in time conveying an image map so intense that it was picked up by Barney Bubbles while he was dozing in a deckchair in his back garden one hot English summer afternoon. He immediately made the painting and turned it into a cover so that Hawkwind could distribute it with their new album and the whole world would be warned in time. Ah, cool. Mystery solved! Thanks, Jill Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 17 00:44:44 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:14:44 +1030 Subject: HW..nosecone?, tailpod? + religion Message-ID: The peice pointing in the air is the nose cone man Take my word for it cause I was flying the fricking thing when that tailgaiter caused me to ditch on the planet Cannabis ((see back cover - they only LOOK like pine trees - but they're not!!)) They also have many cloned space rock bands which is why I found it so difficult when my "rescue" was dipatched......... ....have you hugged your fantasy today........ ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 2:21 PM Subject: Re: HW..nosecone?, tailpod? + religion > dear folks.....SURVEY!!!! > > RE: MT GRILL ALBUM COVER: > > > VOTE COUNT NOSECONE :___________ > > > VOTE COUNT TAILPOD: _____________ > > > and this......if anyone thinks I have "slammed" GOD, and love,...then they > misunderstood my weird humor.... > > > GOD BLESS......ALL GOOD PEOPLE! > > > bye > > mc From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 17 00:46:51 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:16:51 +1030 Subject: HW (off) Nik Turner practice Message-ID: > > mike c *again...please forgive* thou art forgiven ~ art forgiven ~ art forgiven ~ art forgiven ~ forgiven ~ forgiven ~ forgiven ~ forgiven ~ forgiven ~ From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sat Mar 17 03:29:28 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:29:28 -0700 Subject: HW:weird 6-non punish Message-ID: I should have the money by the end of next week-It should go out on Friday:) If not before. I drive a cab, and my CD money comes out of my tips!!! Yes! St. Patrick's day combined with NCAA folx here in Boise is going to make for an interesting day tomorrow night! Wheeee! I appreciate this! Pam CCollins54 at AOL.COM wrote: > How long should I hold them for? > > Peace and Love, > > Jim Collins -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace ok - like that...... next five: Quark Strangeness & Charm In Search of Space Sonic Attack Space Ritual Business of the...... (though not in any particular order) Sam -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: 17 March 2001 04:49 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: top five hawk albums > ....really only 5??????? Can't we have 25!! 30 maybe..... I'm going to > feel really bad now all day as I think of all the albums I chopped off my > list..... oh well go with the instincts I was preparing to suggest a top 50 Hawkwind album list either that or we could just submit another 5 each day! Mb *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Sat Mar 17 06:13:53 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:13:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Tim BLake _not_ playing at Croydon Message-ID: Hi folks, here's an excerpt from a mail I got from Tim this morning : >It's Official ! >Tim will not be playing with our friends 'HAWKWIND' on the 25 March at >Croydon. >If you have bought a ticket JUST to see Tim, our ONLY suggestion is that You >send it back for 100% re-emboursement. Though I think no one here will give back his ticket (I suppose some of use want to see HW, too ), it might be interesting to know that Tim isn't playing. (c)IAO D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Sat Mar 17 06:31:05 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:31:05 -0000 Subject: HW (off) Nik Turner practice Message-ID: It's not fair - I haven't got a Nik - I want one!!!! (Stamping foot quite a lot now!!) I'll feed him Starflakes and won't let him near the cabinet key I promise. I'll even Paint my Windows but I really want the all-new(!) Spiky Sax playing Nik. And I promise it won't be a fad - I'll still take him out to play in years to come - where do I send me cheque??? Sam P.S. - Can I get a refund on this Lemmy!!! -----Original Message----- From: Mike Coleman [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: 17 March 2001 04:32 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW (off) Nik Turner practice Nick Medford wrote: "It occurred to me that one disadvantage might be having to listen to him practice his sax, but then I remembered- he never practices." He practiced in my home here,,,,,,, we need to get a smaller home........but now it's sacred ground....HMMMMMM....this is a problem indeed... also...we could use a new van.......but he made that sacred tooo...... in a predicament.... darn..... mike c *again...please forgive* *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Mar 17 06:52:43 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:52:43 -0600 Subject: HW: PINK SLIP TO NIK In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D9035E31CA@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: Sam Kirwan "threw a tantrum": It's not fair - I haven't got a Nik - I want one!!!! (Stamping foot quite a >lot now!!) >I'll feed him Starflakes and won't let him near the cabinet key I promise. >I'll even Paint my Windows but I really want the all-new(!) Spiky Sax >playing Nik. And I promise it won't be a fad - I'll still take him out to >play in years to come - where do I send me cheque??? > >Sam > >P.S. - Can I get a refund on this Lemmy!!! I have his home phone.....ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT A PET OF THIS DEMEANER????? The "hair goup" can be hell on the shower drains...especially if they don't function 100%..... also...if you do not BUST THE LOCK, and THROW AWAY THE CABINET KEY FOREVER, I assure you, Nik will stray within 15 minutes........ If you are still interested, contact me privately, I'll do an interview, MAKE SURE you include SEXY photo, and if you make it through the strict regiments, I will give you the P.O. BOX where payment can be sent.... ufo shoes From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Mar 17 07:37:11 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:37:11 +0000 Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 18.00 +0000 16.3.2001, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Arin Komins wrote: >> UK folks, anyone happen to know if it is possible for a nonEuro member >> to get a job over there? All the *.gov.uk sites I looked at >> made it seem highly unlikely...... > >it's certainly possible, because list-member Carl Anderson >is doing it in Cambridge (which is nice enough, but has no useful music >scene and only limited music shops though books and scenery we have in >spades); but he made the careful step of getting the job before he moved >so that they (eventually) sorted out his work permit. If you trust to the >efficiency of the Home Office alone... well, just don't, really. The only thing that's as difficult as being an American trying to get permission to work in Europe is being a European trying to get permission to work in the US ;) You've an easier time getting established in Britain as a Balkan refugee sneaking in to claim political asylum than as an educated, skilled, productive citizen of a non-EU first world nation. Likewise, getting established in the US is best accomplished by swimming the Rio Grande, taking a raft from Cuba, or whatever. At least you'll get sympathetic media coverage. IMO, the people responsible for this stuff should be taken out and shot (if they're already dead, they should be dug up and shot). That said, obviously it can be done, or I wouldn't be here. One technique is to get into a multinational outfit and finagle your way towards an overseas posting. Another is to know people in an overseas company/institution and have them pulling for you with their bosses. Cambridge is indeed bereft of a music scene or any good record shops, but it could be worse. I expect I'll be here a while -- at least to ride out the current/coming economic mess. Though in the longer term, I might move elsewhere in Britain or Europe, and I might even go back to the US, I suppose. Can't rule it out. Anyone in Scandinavia need a native-English-speaking technical writer? :) Scotland might be nice, too. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sat Mar 17 07:18:38 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:18:38 +0000 Subject: top five hawk albums In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 10.43 +0000 16.3.2001, Layla Thompson wrote: >It might just be me......but I thought that Alien 4 was a >bit....erm.......below the usual standards. Am I alone on that one? Well, it wasn't *great*, but I thought "Alien" and "Sputnik" were cool tracks. And looks quite good next to, say, Distant Horizons or Space Bandits ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sat Mar 17 07:24:37 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:24:37 +0000 Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 17.53 +0000 16.3.2001, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Thomas, Guy wrote: >> Austin - great place! Visited twice in the 90's on business >> First beer I ever had in America was a Young's "Ram 'n' Special" in a great >> bar called Maggie Mae's, back in 1989 > > Excellent choice sir! But what on earth was it doing in >Texas? It's hard enough to find outside of London! Lots of UK beer gets imported to the US in bottled form (some of it is extremely dodgy, but some of it is quite decent for bottled imports). It's a hell of a lot easier to find certain UK brands in the large US city of your choice than anywhere in Britain outside the brewery's catchment area. You're shafted for variety here! ;) Cheers, Carl ps - of course, you get into those big in-between spaces in the US and you might as well drink Coke, since the choice of beer is limited to Budmilloors! -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sat Mar 17 07:26:52 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:26:52 +0000 Subject: OFF: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 17.57 +0000 16.3.2001, Jon Jarrett wrote: >Speaking of which, is anyone clued up enough to remember what >Charlie Kennedy said about legalising cannabis after that little spat in >the papers between the Tory tokers and Anne Widdicombe? I thought he said >the Lib Dems would legalise it (just as the conference has been voting for >the last fifteen years) but the website seems to have let that oen slip >through the policy-recording cracks... Oh, come now ... I mean, they are _politicians_. They only say things to score points off their rivals or in hopes of suckering you. Or both. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Mar 17 07:45:46 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:45:46 +0000 Subject: top five hawk albums In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 21.10 +0000 16.3.2001, Nick Medford wrote: >Ah, I didn't realise we could vote for non-existent CDs. But now that we can, I'll vote for the _Earth Ritual_ album that I've been plugging for since my earliest days of Hawkfandom. It will be recorded by Dave, Alan, Richard, and Simon House. And produced by Lemmy, I think :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sat Mar 17 07:59:18 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:59:18 -0000 Subject: OFF: good places to live? Message-ID: I've been working in dotcom companies for the past 18-24 months in the UK and have found an incredibly large number of Australians, New Zealanders, Canadians and South Africans working in them. Very few Americans though. The bars in London are all staffed by antipodeans (AU, NZ and SA) - a lot seem to come over on student visas, extend them as long as possible, and don't actually do any studying... If anyone does know how to go about finding work in the US (preferably still in the Internet arena), then please let me know 'cause I'm thinking of jumping ship from the UK as soon as I can. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:37 PM Subject: Re: OFF: good places to live? > At 18.00 +0000 16.3.2001, Jon Jarrett wrote: > >On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Arin Komins wrote: > >> UK folks, anyone happen to know if it is possible for a nonEuro member > >> to get a job over there? All the *.gov.uk sites I looked at > >> made it seem highly unlikely...... > > > >it's certainly possible, because list-member Carl Anderson > >is doing it in Cambridge (which is nice enough, but has no useful music > >scene and only limited music shops though books and scenery we have in > >spades); but he made the careful step of getting the job before he moved > >so that they (eventually) sorted out his work permit. If you trust to the > >efficiency of the Home Office alone... well, just don't, really. > > The only thing that's as difficult as being an American trying to get > permission to work in Europe is being a European trying to get > permission to work in the US ;) You've an easier time getting > established in Britain as a Balkan refugee sneaking in to claim > political asylum than as an educated, skilled, productive citizen of > a non-EU first world nation. Likewise, getting established in the US > is best accomplished by swimming the Rio Grande, taking a raft from > Cuba, or whatever. At least you'll get sympathetic media coverage. > > IMO, the people responsible for this stuff should be taken out and > shot (if they're already dead, they should be dug up and shot). > > That said, obviously it can be done, or I wouldn't be here. One > technique is to get into a multinational outfit and finagle your way > towards an overseas posting. Another is to know people in an overseas > company/institution and have them pulling for you with their bosses. > > Cambridge is indeed bereft of a music scene or any good record shops, > but it could be worse. I expect I'll be here a while -- at least to > ride out the current/coming economic mess. Though in the longer > term, I might move elsewhere in Britain or Europe, and I might even > go back to the US, I suppose. Can't rule it out. Anyone in > Scandinavia need a native-English-speaking technical writer? :) > Scotland might be nice, too. > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:cea at carlaz.com > http://www.carlaz.com/ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Mar 17 09:32:27 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 14:32:27 +0000 Subject: OFF : The one true religion for Kev Message-ID: If it helps, you could try http://www.selectsmart.com/RELIGION/ which has an easy "find your religion" quiz. Here are my results below. which are clearly Bastard HarborMASTAH! Neo-pagan, my foot! This week I have mostly been a Mao Shan Taoist, concentrating on their use of and worship of a marijuana deity, "the unique visionary cosmology, bodily symbolism, astral journeys, internal alchemy, meditational techniques, and ritual practices of the Mao-shan or Shang-chi'ing (Great Purity) movement" I would go for Horus but who wants to be a War God all the time? Thoth is a more interesting godform to identify, with but having the head of an ibis is a bugger when you're down the pub, for more than one reason. Neo-Pagan ... (score=100) New Age ... (score=100) New Thought ... (score=91) Unitarian Universalist ... (score=90) Scientology ... (score=85) Mahayana Buddhist ... (score=85) Hindu ... (score=81) Liberal Quaker ... (score=72) Theravada Buddhist ... (score=70) Christian Science ... (score=70) Taoism... (score=67) Mainline to Liberal Protestant... (score=59) Humanist ... (score=54) Reform Judaism ... (score=48) Sikhism ... (score=46) Orthodox Quaker ... (score=41) Jainism ... (score=39) Bah?? ... (score=29) Latter Day Saints... (score=23) Atheist/Agnostic... (score=21) Orthodox Judaism ... (score=20) Jehovahs Witness ... (score=16) Seventh Day Adventist ... (score=16) Eastern Orthodox ... (score=10) Islam ... (score=10) Roman Catholic ... (score=10) have fun and freak out -- Skinny Crosslegged Jon in His Pants. From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Sat Mar 17 09:31:12 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 08:31:12 -0600 Subject: OFF : The one true religion for Kev Message-ID: Happy St.(kill the pagans)Patick day. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Browne [mailto:jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 8:32 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF : The one true religion for Kev If it helps, you could try http://www.selectsmart.com/RELIGION/ which has an easy "find your religion" quiz. Here are my results below. which are clearly Bastard HarborMASTAH! Neo-pagan, my foot! This week I have mostly been a Mao Shan Taoist, concentrating on their use of and worship of a marijuana deity, "the unique visionary cosmology, bodily symbolism, astral journeys, internal alchemy, meditational techniques, and ritual practices of the Mao-shan or Shang-chi'ing (Great Purity) movement" I would go for Horus but who wants to be a War God all the time? Thoth is a more interesting godform to identify, with but having the head of an ibis is a bugger when you're down the pub, for more than one reason. Neo-Pagan ... (score=100) New Age ... (score=100) New Thought ... (score=91) Unitarian Universalist ... (score=90) Scientology ... (score=85) Mahayana Buddhist ... (score=85) Hindu ... (score=81) Liberal Quaker ... (score=72) Theravada Buddhist ... (score=70) Christian Science ... (score=70) Taoism... (score=67) Mainline to Liberal Protestant... (score=59) Humanist ... (score=54) Reform Judaism ... (score=48) Sikhism ... (score=46) Orthodox Quaker ... (score=41) Jainism ... (score=39) Bah?? ... (score=29) Latter Day Saints... (score=23) Atheist/Agnostic... (score=21) Orthodox Judaism ... (score=20) Jehovahs Witness ... (score=16) Seventh Day Adventist ... (score=16) Eastern Orthodox ... (score=10) Islam ... (score=10) Roman Catholic ... (score=10) have fun and freak out -- Skinny Crosslegged Jon in His Pants. From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Mar 17 10:28:23 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:28:23 -0500 Subject: HW: IRC Test Online NOW !! Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS A TEST IS CURRENTLY ONGOING FOR THE NEXT FEW HOURS ON IRC DALNET CHANNEL #Hawkwind.org.uk Get access to the channel by getting an IRC client such as mIRC from www.mirc.com The band will be holding an onlline chat in a matter of days so to make sure you are not left out of the discussion log on and make sure your connection is set up correctly..... ++MESSAGE ENDS From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sat Mar 17 10:36:16 2001 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:36:16 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE set-list 15.03.01 Message-ID: Tilburg, 013, 15/03/01: Even Less Slave Called Shiver Shesmovedon Up The Downstair Sleep Of No Dreaming Lightbulb Sun Russia On Ice Pure Narcotic Where We Would Be Last Chance To Evacuate... Hate Song Tinto Brass Encore: Voyage 34 Signify total: 100 min Support Act: Karnataka from South Wales Andreas From micci at SCI.FI Sat Mar 17 13:02:33 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:02:33 +0200 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Hi! Mine would be: Alien4 Palace Springs Electric Tepee Doremi.. Hall Of The.. and all the rest over 100 album Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sat Mar 17 13:21:12 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:21:12 -0000 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Electric Tepee Hall of the Mountain Grill Live Chronicles Quark, Strangeness and Charm Alien 4 --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Miikka Wagner To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:02 PM Subject: Re: top five hawk albums > Hi! > > Mine would be: > > Alien4 > Palace Springs > Electric Tepee > Doremi.. > Hall Of The.. > > and all the rest over 100 album > > Miikka Wagner > email: micci at sci.fi > http://www.sci.fi/~micci From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sat Mar 17 13:29:37 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:29:37 -0600 Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: <006601c0aee2$15bca3a0$176aa8c0@alien8.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Kevin Perry wrote: :Subject: Re: OFF: good places to live? : :I've been working in dotcom companies for the past 18-24 months in the UK :and have found an incredibly large number of Australians, New Zealanders, :Canadians and South Africans working in them. Very few Americans though. : :The bars in London are all staffed by antipodeans (AU, NZ and SA) - a lot :seem to come over on student visas, extend them as long as possible, and :don't actually do any studying... : :If anyone does know how to go about finding work in the US (preferably still :in the Internet arena), then please let me know 'cause I'm thinking of :jumping ship from the UK as soon as I can. : well, hey, if you do systems admin (for either NT or Unix) then we have an opening.... ;-) It turns out that my boss freaked out when I suggested that I might be leaving and she convinced me to stay. that said, I found a place in oak park (a chicago burb) to rent. thanks all for the pointers and tips on jobs and moving. double thanks for doug for the possible offer for a place (chuck -- I won't stand in your way on this one ;-) ). At the Astoria, there was a couple I met at the after-party who said that they were from oak park. if you are on the list, email me? if not -- anyone remember who they were? (in the chaos, i managed to forget their names.) on more random notes -- Chicago Hawkwind fans -- where are you? I know that there are some on the list...... Get together for a party sometime? Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Mar 17 14:25:28 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:25:28 -0000 Subject: OFF: good places to live? Message-ID: Lol. Seems I'm not the only one who wants to bail out of the UK then. I've had enough of burning sheep and train crashes. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:29 PM Subject: Re: OFF: good places to live? > On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Kevin Perry wrote: > > :Subject: Re: OFF: good places to live? > : > :I've been working in dotcom companies for the past 18-24 months in the UK > :and have found an incredibly large number of Australians, New Zealanders, > :Canadians and South Africans working in them. Very few Americans though. > : > :The bars in London are all staffed by antipodeans (AU, NZ and SA) - a lot > :seem to come over on student visas, extend them as long as possible, and > :don't actually do any studying... > : > :If anyone does know how to go about finding work in the US (preferably still > :in the Internet arena), then please let me know 'cause I'm thinking of > :jumping ship from the UK as soon as I can. > : > > well, hey, if you do systems admin (for either NT or Unix) then > we have an opening.... ;-) > > It turns out that my boss freaked out when I suggested that I might be > leaving and she convinced me to stay. > > that said, I found a place in oak park (a chicago burb) to rent. > > thanks all for the pointers and tips on jobs and moving. double > thanks for doug for the possible offer for a place (chuck -- I > won't stand in your way on this one ;-) ). > > At the Astoria, there was a couple I met at the after-party who > said that they were from oak park. if you are on the list, email > me? if not -- anyone remember who they were? (in the chaos, i managed > to forget their names.) > > on more random notes -- Chicago Hawkwind fans -- where are you? > I know that there are some on the list...... > > Get together for a party sometime? > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Mar 17 15:19:20 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:19:20 EST Subject: OFF: Motorhead spotted on WWF Again Message-ID: ...this time the band themselves were seen up-front just before the Triple H (whose theme song is something like "Play the Game" by MH) and Kane match-up. Triple H shook their hands as he walked by and the announcers actually mentioned that "Motorhead is here!". Thing is, Triple H was against Kane, who was filling in for his brother the Undertaker-- whose recent angle is that he's a BIKER. Oh well... Chuck From qsoroaddog at YAHOO.COM Sat Mar 17 17:17:53 2001 From: qsoroaddog at YAHOO.COM (RoadDog) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 14:17:53 -0800 Subject: Lookin for rare and live BOC Message-ID: Hi everybody! I am on a fairly futile quest to find more music from one of my favorite bands, Blue Oyster Cult. If anyone has BOC they would like to trade, please contact me off list. I have some stuff, just not much BOC. Also, in my searching, I have found there are many rare bsides and live tracks by BOC. Has anyone ever made a compilation of these hard to find tracks? On a Hawkwind note, I am really into Rock and Sci-Fi. I even like some of Moorecocks stuff. People are always telling me that I would really dig Hawkwind. Twice now I have borrowed tapes from people and came to the conclusion that they sucked. I am wondering if I just didn't hear their best stuff. Its hard to tell with the imaginary albums, but it looks like there is a ton of stuff. Maybe you fans that know it all could steer me towards some really kick ass HW. Besides BOC, I listen to Sabbath,Floyd,Funkadelic,Jimi and Neil Young among others. You can email off list, or discuss this in a public forum. With all the interesting posts about HW, and the cool album and song titles, there must be some good shit out there for me, but I don't want to guess if I am going to buy something. Harvester of Eyes RoadDog QSO __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 17 17:39:46 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:39:46 -0500 Subject: Distant Horizons Message-ID: This may be a daft question but did all copies of the Distant Horizons CD have "Love in Space" missing or was it just a few? COLIN From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Mar 17 18:03:45 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:03:45 -0000 Subject: Distant Horizons Message-ID: Its on mine, all be it an instrumental version. ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Allen To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 10:39 PM Subject: Distant Horizons > This may be a daft question but did all copies of the Distant Horizons CD > have "Love in Space" missing or was it just a few? > > COLIN From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 17 18:28:07 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:28:07 -0000 Subject: Distant Horizons Message-ID: I didn't realise that was meant to be "Love in Space" but then I hardly ever listen to that CD! My CD has only 10 tracks compared with the 11 on the sleeve; is "Taxi For Max" the whistling bit at the end of Kauai? COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:03 PM Subject: Re: Distant Horizons > Its on mine, all be it an instrumental version. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colin Allen > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 10:39 PM > Subject: Distant Horizons > > > > This may be a daft question but did all copies of the Distant Horizons CD > > have "Love in Space" missing or was it just a few? > > > > COLIN > From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Mar 17 18:36:04 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:36:04 -0000 Subject: Distant Horizons Message-ID: That's the one! ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Allen To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:28 PM Subject: Re: Distant Horizons > I didn't realise that was meant to be "Love in Space" but then I hardly ever > listen to that CD! > My CD has only 10 tracks compared with the 11 on the sleeve; is "Taxi For > Max" the whistling bit at the end of Kauai? > > COLIN > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:03 PM > Subject: Re: Distant Horizons > > > > Its on mine, all be it an instrumental version. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Colin Allen > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 10:39 PM > > Subject: Distant Horizons > > > > > > > This may be a daft question but did all copies of the Distant Horizons > CD > > > have "Love in Space" missing or was it just a few? > > > > > > COLIN > > From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 17 18:40:56 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:40:56 -0000 Subject: Distant Horizons Message-ID: Ah!!! Many thanks Captain! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Distant Horizons > That's the one! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colin Allen > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:28 PM > Subject: Re: Distant Horizons > > > > I didn't realise that was meant to be "Love in Space" but then I hardly > ever > > listen to that CD! > > My CD has only 10 tracks compared with the 11 on the sleeve; is "Taxi For > > Max" the whistling bit at the end of Kauai? > > > > COLIN > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:03 PM > > Subject: Re: Distant Horizons > > > > > > > Its on mine, all be it an instrumental version. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Colin Allen > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 10:39 PM > > > Subject: Distant Horizons > > > > > > > > > > This may be a daft question but did all copies of the Distant Horizons > > CD > > > > have "Love in Space" missing or was it just a few? > > > > > > > > COLIN > > > > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Mar 17 18:57:34 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:57:34 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Tonight at 5pm PST Message-ID: Just a reminder...thanks, Chuck "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7 (or 8) pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 17 21:14:03 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:44:03 +1030 Subject: OFF : The one true religion for Kev Message-ID: Neo-Pagan ...click to learn more (score=100) Unitarian Universalist ...click to learn more (score=84) Hindu ...click to learn more (score=83) New Age ...click to learn more (score=79) Liberal Quaker ...click to learn more (score=76) Sikhism ...click to learn more (score=76) Mahayana Buddhist ...click to learn more (score=74) Mainline to Liberal Protestant...click to learn more (score=70) Bah?? ...click to learn more (score=67) Reform Judaism ...click to learn more (score=66) Jainism ...click to learn more (score=59) Orthodox Judaism ...click to learn more (score=58) Theravada Buddhist ...click to learn more (score=54) New Thought ...click to learn more (score=50) Islam ...click to learn more (score=49) Latter Day Saints...click to learn more (score=49) Scientology ...click to learn more (score=49) Humanist ...click to learn more (score=47) Jehovahs Witness ...click to learn more (score=43) Orthodox Quaker ...click to learn more (score=43) Christian Science ...click to learn more (score=34) Eastern Orthodox ...click to learn more (score=34) Roman Catholic ...click to learn more (score=34) Seventh Day Adventist ...click to learn more (score=34) Taoism...click to learn more (score=33) Atheist/Agnostic...click to learn more (score=29) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Browne To: Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 1:02 AM Subject: OFF : The one true religion for Kev > If it helps, you could try > > http://www.selectsmart.com/RELIGION/ > > which has an easy "find your religion" quiz. Here are my results below. > which are clearly Bastard HarborMASTAH! Neo-pagan, my foot! > > This week I have mostly been a Mao Shan Taoist, > concentrating on their use > of and worship of a marijuana deity, > > "the unique visionary cosmology, bodily symbolism, astral journeys, > internal alchemy, meditational techniques, and ritual practices of the > Mao-shan or Shang-chi'ing (Great Purity) movement" > > I would go for Horus but who wants to be a War God all the time? > Thoth is a more interesting godform to identify, with but having the > head of an ibis is a bugger when you're down the pub, for more than one > reason. > > > Neo-Pagan ... (score=100) > New Age ... (score=100) > New Thought ... (score=91) > Unitarian Universalist ... (score=90) > Scientology ... (score=85) > Mahayana Buddhist ... (score=85) > Hindu ... (score=81) > Liberal Quaker ... (score=72) > Theravada Buddhist ... (score=70) > Christian Science ... (score=70) > Taoism... (score=67) > Mainline to Liberal Protestant... (score=59) > Humanist ... (score=54) > Reform Judaism ... (score=48) > Sikhism ... (score=46) > Orthodox Quaker ... (score=41) > Jainism ... (score=39) > Bah?? ... (score=29) > Latter Day Saints... (score=23) > Atheist/Agnostic... (score=21) > Orthodox Judaism ... (score=20) > Jehovahs Witness ... (score=16) > Seventh Day Adventist ... (score=16) > Eastern Orthodox ... (score=10) > Islam ... (score=10) > Roman Catholic ... (score=10) > > > have fun and freak out > -- > Skinny Crosslegged Jon in His Pants. > From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Mar 17 21:40:11 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 21:40:11 -0500 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Hey Now! Gotta chime in on this one ") top five hawk albums: 1) Warrior On the Edge of Time 2) Hall of The Mountain Grill 3) Space Ritual 4) Levitation 5) Electric Tepee ** (6) Live Chronicles just edged out It's pretty tough to limit yourself to 5! Space Ritual Vol. II: Best version of Master Of the Universe! worst five hawk albums: 1) Bring Me The Head.... 2) Anything else released by Dave Anderson! 3) Distant Horizons (flame away!) 4) Several of The "live" Voiceprint Releases.... Friday Night Rock Show: Favorite version of Magnu>Angels Of Death! Best Live HW cover band: FarFlung w/ NIK! Best HW Studio Release of the '90's: Electric Tepee! (Alien 4 ain't too shabby either) Best HW bassist since Lemmy: Alan Davey Best HW solo member release: Captured Rotation Best AMERICAN SPACEROCK band: FARFLUNG D-Rider (Darrin) np: Electric Tepee (Snake Dance) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Mar 17 22:15:57 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:15:57 EST Subject: OFF : The one true religion for Kev Message-ID: now, what the hell I want to know is how could anyone score anything above 0% when every question was answered 100% against any supreme being/superstition of any kind? this thing is not accurate at all (that is after the 1st line below) Atheist/Agnostic...click to learn more (score=100) 100% intelect, 0% superstition. Humanist ...click to learn more (score=100) o.k. barely slips through for credibility Unitarian Universalist ...click to learn more (score=94) means you don't have the balls to say out loud you really don't believe Theravada Buddhist ...click to learn more (score=72) not a religion Liberal Quaker ...click to learn more (score=49) yeah right! Neo-Pagan ...click to learn more (score=30) dance around naked in woods...cool o.k. I'll give them this one. anything below here are real religions....oh pa-lease..... Mainline to Liberal Protestant...click to learn more (score=22) Taoism...click to learn more (score=21) New Age ...click to learn more (score=6) Bah?? ...click to learn more (score=0) Christian Science ...click to learn more (score=0) Eastern Orthodox ...click to learn more (score=0) Hindu ...click to learn more (score=0) Islam ...click to learn more (score=0) Jainism ...click to learn more (score=0) Jehovahs Witness ...click to learn more (score=0) Latter Day Saints...click to learn more (score=0) Mahayana Buddhist ...click to learn more (score=0) Mainline to Conservative Protestant...click to learn more (score=0) New Thought ...click to learn more (score=0) Orthodox Judaism ...click to learn more (score=0) Orthodox Quaker ...click to learn more (score=0) Reform Judaism ...click to learn more (score=0) Roman Catholic ...click to learn more (score=0) Scientology ...click to learn more (score=0) Seventh Day Adventist ...click to learn more (score=0) disclaimer...the above testament was not meant to offend anyone of these faiths....just making fun of this survey thing.... bob From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Mar 18 03:39:35 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 03:39:35 -0500 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums(err,,,) Message-ID: err..... I spoke incorrectly about the Magnu>Angels from Reading '86..... It's the Dream Worker that kicks it!! Some many great albums.. It's tough to pick just five.... back in about '96... I discovered that it was nice to have some of "the kind" w/ the lady and then curl up in ecstasy listing to The White Zone and Business of The Future.... OO La La ") The Utopia '84>Social Alliance>Sonic Attack>Dream Worker from Zones is pretty darn killer Taboot! Bernard, what show is that again? Also, I enjoy the Brock/Turner/Langton(?) riff during Sonic Attack where it jams like this... Is there a precise window when the band performed Sonic Attack w/ this jam...? From....? To...? Do Not Panic! D-Rider 3:30 AM np: Zones _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Mar 18 04:21:42 2001 From: other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM (No Digest) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 09:21:42 +0000 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums Message-ID: In no particular order............. Hall of the Mountain Grill Warrior on the Edge of Time Space Ritual Live Chronicles Quark, Strangeness and Charm and my fave song of all time................. Damnation Alley Mark > ** Original Subject: HW: top five hawk albums > ** Original Sender: Darrin McKeehen > ** Original Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:43:03 +0000 > ** Original Message follows... > > Hey Now! > > Gotta chime in on this one ") > > top five hawk albums: > 1) Warrior On the Edge of Time > 2) Hall of The Mountain Grill > 3) Space Ritual > 4) Levitation > 5) Electric Tepee > ** (6) Live Chronicles just edged out > > It's pretty tough to limit yourself to 5! > > Space Ritual Vol. II: > Best version of Master Of the Universe! > > worst five hawk albums: > 1) Bring Me The Head.... > 2) Anything else released by Dave Anderson! > 3) Distant Horizons (flame away!) > 4) Several of The "live" Voiceprint Releases.... > > Friday Night Rock Show: > Favorite version of Magnu>Angels Of Death! > > Best Live HW cover band: FarFlung w/ NIK! > > Best HW Studio Release of the '90's: Electric Tepee! > (Alien 4 ain't too shabby either) > > Best HW bassist since Lemmy: Alan Davey > > Best HW solo member release: Captured Rotation > > Best AMERICAN SPACEROCK band: FARFLUNG > > D-Rider > (Darrin) > > np: Electric Tepee (Snake Dance) > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Interviewer: 'you've been looking at the stars all your life. Is there any truth in astrology?' Arthur. C. Clarke: 'It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so of course I'm sceptical.' Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sun Mar 18 07:57:15 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:57:15 GMT Subject: HW: top five hawk albums(err,,,) Message-ID: Darrin wrote: > >Also, I enjoy the Brock/Turner/Langton(?) riff during Sonic Attack where it >jams like this... >Is there a precise window when the band performed Sonic Attack w/ this >jam...? For me the eighties versions of Sonic Attack with 'music' just didn't work. I much preferred the 70's and 90's versions with menacing vocals and FX. The live 97 Sonic Attack is my second fav after Ritual. Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Mar 18 08:16:00 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:16:00 -0000 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles Message-ID: Hi, It continually surprises me how highly rated the Live Chronicles LP is. For me, the studio LP was/is fabulous, this was backed up by a great live show, however the magic failed to be captured on the recorded live release. I seem to be in the minority here, but there you go. Ritual, Space Rock, 1999, Atomhenge, Hawklords Live, Live 79, Do Not Panic, Reading, California, Palace, Business Trip, Weird CDs etc etc all get more of an airing than Live Chronicles. If anyone is chasing for a vinyl copy of Live Chronicles, then mine is up for grabs or I'll swap for double CD release of the same. (the one with the Morrcock stuff on). 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Most stuff on the ZONES LP is from 2 gigs: - London Lewisham Odeon, 18.12.80 - Bristol, Colston Hall, 31.10.82 The above tracks are from the Bristol gig cheers Bernhard From joe.e at TELIA.COM Sun Mar 18 09:12:04 2001 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:12:04 +0100 Subject: top five hawk albums; conclusion Message-ID: if I'll add my top 5 for today; Warrior 25 Years On Levitation Quark Hall of the we'll find 25 valid 'votes' the last week(s). Then if we give 'voted highest' 5 pts, and a falling scale 4-3-2-1 below - and 2.5 pts each on those contributions who is said to be "...in no particular order", we've got the following statistics: Total points/(Number of appearances)/Title 46 (15) Space Ritual 44,5 (13) Warrior On The Edge Of Time 37 (14) Hall of the Mountain Grill 34 (12) Quark Strangeness & Charm 28 (8) 25 Years On 24 (8) Electric Teepee 24 (7) Doremi Fasol Latido 19,5 (7) Live Chronicles 17,5 (6) Levitation 12 (4) PXR5 10 (3) Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music 10 (3) Palace Springs 9 (4) Alien 4 9 (3) In Search of Space 9 (2) Hawkwind 6 (2) Choose Your Masques 5 (1) Text of Festival 4 (1) Live '79 3 (2) It Is The Business Of The Future To Be Dangerous 3 (1) Chronicle of the Black Sword 3 (1) The 1999 Party 2,5 (1) Love in Space 2 (2) Xenon Codex 2 (1) Atomhenge 76 2 (1) Sonic Attack 2 (1) Space Bandits 1 (1) The Business Trip Average voter seems to be John H. McCartney, who's the only one that had the same Top Five as in the above list. It seems like I had a boring Sunday morning, peace, .joe From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sun Mar 18 09:21:04 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:21:04 +0000 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums(err,,,) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 03.39 -0500 18.3.2001, Darrin McKeehen wrote: >err..... >I spoke incorrectly about the Magnu>Angels from Reading '86..... >It's the Dream Worker that kicks it!! Certainly the best version of Dream Worker that I can recall. (The version masquerading as "Acid Test" on Palace Springs is a pathetic blot on an otherwise superb album.) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From coral at APORT.RU Sun Mar 18 10:49:32 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:49:32 +0300 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: Hello! I need help on Spacebrock. What is the tracklisting on the correct cd (not the one with missing tracks)? thanks, Alissa From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Mar 18 11:15:34 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:15:34 +0800 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: Hi I have a question about it as well. Are the versions of Lifeform & Some People Never Die the same as the original Hawkwind versions (they sound it)? Also, Kauai & Earth Calling seem shorter than the versions on Distant Horizons & The Remix Project CD's. Are they the same but shorter? And on another question regarding the remasters. I have Space Bandits & Xenon Codex. They both have letters from the band's name on each spine. Can someone give a full list of what CD's have which letters on the spines, so that we no which ones we need to feel the gaps? William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alissa" To: Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 11:49 PM Subject: spacebrock > Hello! > > I need help on Spacebrock. > > What is the tracklisting on the correct cd (not the one with missing > tracks)? > > thanks, > Alissa > From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Mar 18 11:00:14 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:00:14 -0600 Subject: OFF: Nukli Message-ID: Nukli - The Time Factory Wow. What a CD! I can't believe I haven't listened to this CD sooner. That's what I get for missing an issue of Aural Innovations! >>From A-I: > Anyone who loves Hawkwind, Here and Now, Gong or any Steve Hillage release from the 70's will like Nukli. Loads of > trippy effects, glissando guitar and psychedelic cutups. >>From Delerium: > The UK Festival scene has yet more secrets to reveal, and one of the best kept > secrets has to be Nukli, a band who have circulated many tapes on the > underground circuit, featuring key Ozric Tentacles' members amongst their ranks and > yet have never released an album... that is until the Delerium team sniffed them out > of their secret bunker on Salisbury plain. "The Time Factory" is an album that has > taken over three years to put together, during which time the master tapes were > sent to Canada and back to have the ex-pat keyboard player add his parts and > supervise the final mixes. The results of this long and exacting attention to detail are > an incredible progressive psychedelic rock album that flows like an intricately > detailed tapestry through the mind. You can imagine a cross between Steve Hillage > at his best, Camel and Spirit's "Future Games" then you're halfway there. A definite > classic... Web Site http://www.delerium.co.uk/bands/nukli/framesetnew.html Review: http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue7/nukli.html Vendor: http://www.cranium.co.nz/catalog/A_859.htm Rock on! Karen -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sun Mar 18 11:28:34 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:28:34 +0000 Subject: top five hawk albums; conclusion In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.20010318145723.107fbf28@m1.171.telia.com> Message-ID: I'm sort of surprised, but pleased, to see Electric Teepee do so well. I'm not going to argue that LSD, Secret Agent, Mask of Morning, Right to Decide, and even Snake Dance and Sadness Runs Deep aren't all top-notch spacerock tracks, though! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Mar 18 11:45:41 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:45:41 -0500 Subject: top five hawk albums; conclusion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I love the entire feel of Electric Teepee. Some Rock. Some Space. Some Space Rock. I like the way Dave or the producer set the song order as well. I think this one is the best example of this period of Hawkwind. :::-----Original Message----- :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :::Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson :::Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 11:29 AM :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :::Subject: Re: top five hawk albums; conclusion ::: ::: :::I'm sort of surprised, but pleased, to see Electric Teepee do so :::well. I'm not going to argue that LSD, Secret Agent, Mask of Morning, :::Right to Decide, and even Snake Dance and Sadness Runs Deep aren't :::all top-notch spacerock tracks, though! :) ::: :::Cheers, :::Carl ::: :::-- :::Carl Edlund Anderson :::mailto:scylding at carlaz.com :::http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ ::: From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Sun Mar 18 14:08:10 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (mark licht) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:08:10 -0700 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: Now that we know what the favorite albums are, what percentage of the time listening to recorded music (lp, cd, tape) does Hawkwind represent? For myself it's probably 50% Hawkwind 25% Klaus Schulze 10% Gong 15% everything else The other Mark L From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Mar 18 15:11:36 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:11:36 -0000 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: Hell thats alot of Klaus Schulze. 40% Hawkwind 10% Gong 10% Ozrics 10% Dolphin and Whalesong(!) lol does this count? 10% Rosetta Stone 10% Banco De Gaia 10% Astralasia (But thats just today) ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark licht" To: Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 7:08 PM Subject: Re: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll > Now that we know what the favorite albums are, what percentage of the time > listening to recorded music (lp, cd, tape) does Hawkwind represent? > > For myself it's probably > > 50% Hawkwind > 25% Klaus Schulze > 10% Gong > 15% everything else > > The other Mark L > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Mar 18 18:13:28 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:13:28 -0000 Subject: OFF: Nukli Message-ID: yes - but even better is the Omnia Opera CD on the same label called 'Red Shift' Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kusic" To: Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 4:00 PM Subject: OFF: Nukli > Nukli - The Time Factory > > Wow. What a CD! I can't believe I haven't listened to this CD sooner. > That's what I get for missing an issue of Aural Innovations! > > >From A-I: > > Anyone who loves Hawkwind, Here and Now, Gong or any Steve Hillage release from the 70's will like Nukli. Loads of > > trippy effects, glissando guitar and psychedelic cutups. > > >From Delerium: > > The UK Festival scene has yet more secrets to reveal, and one of the best kept > > secrets has to be Nukli, a band who have circulated many tapes on the > > underground circuit, featuring key Ozric Tentacles' members amongst their ranks and > > yet have never released an album... that is until the Delerium team sniffed them out > > of their secret bunker on Salisbury plain. "The Time Factory" is an album that has > > taken over three years to put together, during which time the master tapes were > > sent to Canada and back to have the ex-pat keyboard player add his parts and > > supervise the final mixes. The results of this long and exacting attention to detail are > > an incredible progressive psychedelic rock album that flows like an intricately > > detailed tapestry through the mind. You can imagine a cross between Steve Hillage > > at his best, Camel and Spirit's "Future Games" then you're halfway there. A definite > > classic... > > Web Site > http://www.delerium.co.uk/bands/nukli/framesetnew.html > > Review: > http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue7/nukli.html > > Vendor: > http://www.cranium.co.nz/catalog/A_859.htm > > Rock on! > > Karen > > -- > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > - Frank Zappa From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Mar 18 18:15:48 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:15:48 +0000 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll In-Reply-To: <01c0afde$c6547c40$LocalHost@home> Message-ID: In article <01c0afde$c6547c40$LocalHost at home>, mark licht writes >Now that we know what the favorite albums are, what percentage of the time >listening to recorded music (lp, cd, tape) does Hawkwind represent? > >For myself it's probably > >50% Hawkwind >25% Klaus Schulze >10% Gong >15% everything else > >The other Mark L I am passionately lustful for the new 50 CD Klaus Shulze 5 x 10 Box-Sets-Set I want to impatiently rip off its flimsy cellophane shrink-wrap, flinging it away, fan all the discs carelessly over the rug, and slip one at random into the player. I can get it wholesale off Greyhound for only 300 quid plus VAT ooohhh... the temptation! -- Jon From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Sun Mar 18 18:33:51 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (mark licht) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:33:51 -0700 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: Better hurry, the next 10 cd set, Contemporary Works, is out... the other Mark L >I am passionately lustful for the >new 50 CD Klaus Shulze 5 x 10 Box-Sets-Set > >I want to impatiently rip off its flimsy cellophane shrink-wrap, >flinging it away, fan all the discs carelessly over the rug, and slip >one at random into the player. > >I can get it wholesale off Greyhound for only 300 quid plus VAT > >ooohhh... the temptation! >-- >Jon > From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Sun Mar 18 18:41:09 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:41:09 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind Tree update Message-ID: No, this is not about Ron, but I did promise a freely available set of Brixton Hawkestra to anyone interested back in January. It's not forgotten, and I think I'm just about ready to begin taking signups. I've had some burner troubles, in which discs recorded DAO were getting very tiny (0.01 of a second) micro-gaps between tracks. I think I've finally solved this by putting a laser lens cleaner through the cd burner drive. Anyways, if not 100% it seems to be fixed about 95% of the time. So, to begin this tree, we need the following: 1) master branches for each continent. These people would get discs directly from me, and would set up trades with their leaves beneath them. No selling please! Freely trade, even if you have to do it for blanks, and be prepared to question any leaf to make certain that they understand this is not to be sold! I believe I already have master branches for Western USA, Eastern USA, England, and Australia, but I'd need to verify that they did not grow impatient and that they are still willing to serve. I still need a master branch with a good burner and DAO capability in Europe, if I recall correctly. 2) Does anybody have the setlists for the Bedouin, Tim Blake, and Simon House gigs from that evening? I'm trying to work on some artwork and there might be a couple songs where I'd like confirmation that I've got the right ideas as to what was played. 3) Speaking of artwork, I've got some "Brixton in a Box" artwork for the 3 Hawkwind discs that may work (which is awesome), but if anybody wants to volunteer their artistic skills, please feel free to send jpg images to my email address (limit your attachments to under 1 meg, though, please). 4) I still need to get the final artwork posted on to a webpage, and then I'll also try to post some samples in mp3 format. Please remember that we are not distributing mp3 music due to quality losses, but it will give people an idea of the quality in case they already have another version and would like to compare qualities. 5) After the information begins to get posted, then the official signups will take place. In the future, I hope to get things going a lot faster, but I didn't expect to have some technical details to work on, so please forgive the delays this time. Thanks again, Bryan Young Saskatchewan, Canada From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Mar 18 18:46:38 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:46:38 -0000 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: Hi, Oh dear, once again I appear to in the minority here. I sometimes have whole saturation weeks of 100% HW, but then 3 weeks might pass with not a bleep or swoosh within ear-shot! HW: 30% Following make up remainder(ish): Led Zep Deep Purple Black Sabbath Genesis Jethro Tull King Crimson Lynyrd Skynyrd Motorhead Pink Floyd 1977 Punk bands Uriah Heep Neil Young As for Herr Schulze, got Irrlicht & Black Dance on vinyl, played neither in past 10 years! Maybe these aren't representative of his works, but then again, maybe he's just not my cup of tea! Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Browne To: Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 11:15 PM Subject: Re: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll > In article <01c0afde$c6547c40$LocalHost at home>, mark licht > writes > >Now that we know what the favorite albums are, what percentage of the time > >listening to recorded music (lp, cd, tape) does Hawkwind represent? > > > >For myself it's probably > > > >50% Hawkwind > >25% Klaus Schulze > >10% Gong > >15% everything else > > > >The other Mark L > > I am passionately lustful for the > new 50 CD Klaus Shulze 5 x 10 Box-Sets-Set > > I want to impatiently rip off its flimsy cellophane shrink-wrap, > flinging it away, fan all the discs carelessly over the rug, and slip > one at random into the player. > > I can get it wholesale off Greyhound for only 300 quid plus VAT > > ooohhh... the temptation! > -- > Jon > From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Mar 18 18:53:00 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:53:00 +0000 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles In-Reply-To: <002d01c0afad$bbc31060$e107883e@jezd> Message-ID: In message <002d01c0afad$bbc31060$e107883e at jezd>, J D writes > > Hi, > It continually surprises me how highly rated the Live Chronicles LP is. > For me, the studio LP was/is fabulous, this was backed up by a great live show, > however the magic failed to be captured on the recorded live release. > I seem to be in the minority here, but there you go. I agree, it's probably the only HW live release where very few of the songs are as good as the original studio versions, like you I prefer the studio Chronicle album. 'Moonglum' and 'Dreaming City' are good though. -- Nick Medford From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Mar 18 19:00:08 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:00:08 -0500 Subject: top five hawk albums-part ll In-Reply-To: <000f01c0b005$c9e00240$f944883e@jezd> Message-ID: Hmmm..... Hawkwind probably 33% to 25%. NO WAY to figure the other percentages. BUT I have been listening to the following recently. In no order what so ever. Amon Duul II (just got Phallus Dei on VINYL) Pierre Moerlin's Gong (Time is the Key is nearly a religious experience) Ozric Tentacles (earlier than later) Monster Magnet (the new one rocks) BOC (Heaven Forbid and first three recently) Spice Girls (hee hee... NOT!!) Camel (Mostly live and Rajaz) Steve Hackett (Tokyo Tapes gets good rotation) Porcupine Tree IQ (Forever Live is AMAZING) Mike in Troy NY From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Mar 18 19:02:04 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:02:04 -0500 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: and I totally disagree LOL I got the Live before the studio and being a monster Moorcock fan I love the extra additions and the live renditions of Chronicles Live. The studio leaves me cold. Even the Vinyl.... Mike in troy NY :::-----Original Message----- :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :::Behalf Of Nick Medford :::Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 6:53 PM :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :::Subject: Re: HW: Live Chronicles ::: ::: :::In message <002d01c0afad$bbc31060$e107883e at jezd>, J D writes :::> :::> Hi, :::> It continually surprises me how highly rated the Live :::Chronicles LP is. :::> For me, the studio LP was/is fabulous, this was backed up :::by a great live show, :::> however the magic failed to be captured on the recorded :::live release. :::> I seem to be in the minority here, but there you go. ::: :::I agree, it's probably the only HW live release where very few :::of the songs :::are as good as the original studio versions, like you I prefer the studio :::Chronicle album. 'Moonglum' and 'Dreaming City' are good though. ::: :::-- :::Nick Medford ::: From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sun Mar 18 19:28:33 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill Freeman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:28:33 +0800 Subject: A Pointless Question and a very silly answer - but hey it's Friday Message-ID: Us West Aussies are at this very moment digging very deep. Our State seems to be the dumping ground for "past-its-used-by-date" space-stations. We look to the sky with a mixture of awe and horror (and beer)... Cheers Bill Jill said: > The Hour Has Come At Last That I Kan Now Reveal The Real Truth. > > The craft on the cover of the Hall of the Mountain Grill is in fact > a large chunk of Mir that came crashing down to Earth and ended up > somwhere in a yet to be determined trackless wilderness - most > likely someplace in Western Australia. The panic and hysteria > caused by the descent of this enormous fragment initiated a massive > encaphalic aural energy surge so powerful that it disrupted the > fabric of the spacetime continuum and blasted backwards in time > conveying an image map so intense that it was picked up by Barney > Bubbles while he was dozing in a deckchair in his back garden one > hot English summer afternoon. He immediately made the painting > and turned it into a cover so that Hawkwind could distribute it with > their new album and the whole world would be warned in time. > > Wonder if it worked? From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Sun Mar 18 22:59:55 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:59:55 -0500 Subject: OFF: Klaus Schulze Message-ID: I have the 50 CD Klaus Schulze set and it's delightful! Literally days of listening pleasure! As is to be expected with any set this gargantuan, there are a few bits here and there that don't thrill me that much, but overall I am utterly astounded that there is so much previously unreleased brilliance from this musical icon! John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > I am passionately lustful for the > new 50 CD Klaus Shulze 5 x 10 Box-Sets-Set > > I want to impatiently rip off its flimsy cellophane shrink-wrap, > flinging it away, fan all the discs carelessly over the rug, and slip > one at random into the player. > > I can get it wholesale off Greyhound for only 300 quid plus VAT > > ooohhh... the temptation! > -- > Jon From chrisr at TIAC.NET Sun Mar 18 23:18:37 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:18:37 -0500 Subject: OFF: Nukli Message-ID: I have an old Psy Nukli cassette, called Psychelektra Trip Projecta. I think from 1983. Poor quality sound, but the music is incredible. It is interspersed with talking of some sort. I would love to hear a quality cd of this recording. I have another tape from Nukli called At Last, I have not heard it lately. I was underwhelmed by the Time Factory cd. I thought the cassettes were better music. Chris ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > > yes - but even better is the Omnia Opera CD on the same label called 'Red > Shift' > Andy Garibaldi From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Sun Mar 18 23:41:49 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:41:49 -0600 Subject: OFF: Skye Klad Message-ID: Just a heads up for anybody near the Twin Cities. Saturday April 14th Skye Klad have a gig warming up for Savage Aural Hotbed in First Avenue's mainroom in Minneapolis. Doors at 5pm, $8.00. Also Skye Klad have a CD release show scheduled for May 4th in the 7th Street Entry, which of course they will headline. I believe the new CD is finished now. dan From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Mar 19 00:18:04 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:48:04 +1030 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: An average rating would look like this 60% Hawkwind 10% Doors 10% Led Zeppelin 10% Jimi Hendrix 10% other assorted groovy stuffff Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: mark licht To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 5:38 AM Subject: Re: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll > Now that we know what the favorite albums are, what percentage of the time > listening to recorded music (lp, cd, tape) does Hawkwind represent? > > For myself it's probably > > 50% Hawkwind > 25% Klaus Schulze > 10% Gong > 15% everything else > > The other Mark L From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Mar 19 02:15:53 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:15:53 -0000 Subject: HW: PINK SLIP TO NIK Message-ID: Cheque's in the Post Luv Minney Mouse -----Original Message----- From: Mike Coleman [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: 17 March 2001 11:53 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: PINK SLIP TO NIK Sam Kirwan "threw a tantrum": It's not fair - I haven't got a Nik - I want one!!!! (Stamping foot quite a >lot now!!) >I'll feed him Starflakes and won't let him near the cabinet key I promise. >I'll even Paint my Windows but I really want the all-new(!) Spiky Sax >playing Nik. And I promise it won't be a fad - I'll still take him out to >play in years to come - where do I send me cheque??? > >Sam > >P.S. - Can I get a refund on this Lemmy!!! I have his home phone.....ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT A PET OF THIS DEMEANER????? The "hair goup" can be hell on the shower drains...especially if they don't function 100%..... also...if you do not BUST THE LOCK, and THROW AWAY THE CABINET KEY FOREVER, I assure you, Nik will stray within 15 minutes........ If you are still interested, contact me privately, I'll do an interview, MAKE SURE you include SEXY photo, and if you make it through the strict regiments, I will give you the P.O. BOX where payment can be sent.... ufo shoes *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 02:25:58 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 02:25:58 EST Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? Message-ID: Its intersting that a lot of list people listen to Ozrics and gong also...(Not just from the few recent posts but from previous discussions)....Alot of us appear to be into the ( very loosely defined ) Genre of "Space Rock" and not just HW freaks. Which beggars the question...How do you define space rock ? is it anything with a sci fi element to it ? ..If so then that opens the door to a lot of crud....(just think of it...Intergalactic Touring band comes to mind..and while they shared the prog top ten with us , The Moodys are responsible for one or two awful Sci fi touches to there worst moments (dont get me wrong...I like some Moodys stuff)..Or UFO at there worst (flame on if you must !.....Just let me point out I like some of UFOs stuff too...I just think some of there earlier sci fi touches are cringe making). The Top 10 Space rock lists have shown some individuals Ideas of space rock, but too me, theyve highlighted the fact that theres a lot of room for individual interpretation in the label. Me I find it hard to label most things i like...And how important is it too label it anyway ?...I just thought it would be fun to see what individuals interpretations of the label are. Is the definition the sound ? what makes that sound ? is it the bleebs, swooshes ( oh,good word !!), and other assorted synthi effects, or is it the rythmns (Or isnt that " Blanga"). Anyway, HW s style and sound changes so frequently , when are they space rock ? Anyone want to play ? From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Mar 19 02:35:53 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:35:53 -0000 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: Hmmm...... thinking now: Hawkwind 50% Jethro/Floyd/ASF/other alternative dancey stuff - 10% Dre/NWA/Eminem Rap stuff - 20% Jungle/Techno - 20% Sam -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: 19 March 2001 05:18 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll An average rating would look like this 60% Hawkwind 10% Doors 10% Led Zeppelin 10% Jimi Hendrix 10% other assorted groovy stuffff Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: mark licht To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 5:38 AM Subject: Re: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll > Now that we know what the favorite albums are, what percentage of the time > listening to recorded music (lp, cd, tape) does Hawkwind represent? > > For myself it's probably > > 50% Hawkwind > 25% Klaus Schulze > 10% Gong > 15% everything else > > The other Mark L *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Mar 19 02:53:55 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:53:55 -0600 Subject: HW:Space rock...IT IS! DRUMROLL PLEASE!!! In-Reply-To: <31.11faa0c7.27e70e86@aol.com> Message-ID: even though I think I may be the discarded joker from the deck....you force my big mouth: 49% :HAWKWIND 51% :THE ATOMIC JUDGE TREV........ everthing else just falls into the more mundane, blandish, catagories of COSMIC, SPACEY, SPACE, TRANCEY, SLEEPY, OUTRIGHT BORING, etc. etc.. NO SERIOUSLY FOLKS...you know there is only the one answer:..... HAWKWIND invented it, and are still BEST at it........ frightened little hawkhogg.. m From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Mar 19 02:56:30 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:56:30 -0000 Subject: HW:Space rock...IT IS! DRUMROLL PLEASE!!! Message-ID: With you on that - take every other sound away - leave me Hawkwind - Always is,was,and will be. My ears would just curl up and cry (die) with out a regular Hawkdose. V.Frightened Hawkslug living under a rock Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mike Coleman [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: 19 March 2001 07:54 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW:Space rock...IT IS! DRUMROLL PLEASE!!! even though I think I may be the discarded joker from the deck....you force my big mouth: 49% :HAWKWIND 51% :THE ATOMIC JUDGE TREV........ everthing else just falls into the more mundane, blandish, catagories of COSMIC, SPACEY, SPACE, TRANCEY, SLEEPY, OUTRIGHT BORING, etc. etc.. NO SERIOUSLY FOLKS...you know there is only the one answer:..... HAWKWIND invented it, and are still BEST at it........ frightened little hawkhogg.. m *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Mon Mar 19 02:57:33 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:57:33 -0700 Subject: OFF: Klaus Schulze Message-ID: John, You're making me drool, slaver, and otherwise make a fool of myself! I'm also finding myself a touch jealous Pam John Majka wrote: > I have the 50 CD Klaus Schulze set and it's delightful! Literally days of > listening pleasure! As is to be expected with any set this gargantuan, > there are a few bits here and there that don't thrill me that much, but > overall I am utterly astounded that there is so much previously unreleased > brilliance from this musical icon! > John Majka > jmajka2 at home.com > > > I am passionately lustful for the > > new 50 CD Klaus Shulze 5 x 10 Box-Sets-Set > > > > I want to impatiently rip off its flimsy cellophane shrink-wrap, > > flinging it away, fan all the discs carelessly over the rug, and slip > > one at random into the player. > > > > I can get it wholesale off Greyhound for only 300 quid plus VAT > > > > ooohhh... the temptation! > > -- > > Jon -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Hawkwind top 5 albums; so difficult even leaving out compilations. 1. Space Ritual 2. WOTEOT 3. Distant Horizons 4. 25 Years On 5. Quark Strangeness & Charm but so many could have made it top 5. Also, due to storage constraints I may soon have some LP's that I need to dispose of; mostly Hawkwind; many are in less than perfect condition (they have all been played to death and some of them I bought second hand). Hell, I don't even possess a turntable these days. I will post more details when I start going the boxes. Time to start work now. Mark From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Mon Mar 19 03:03:20 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:03:20 -0700 Subject: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: I'd have to say Hawkwind about 30% of the time. The others: Solaris Rush Eloy IQ Ozric Tentacles Camel Marillion (Prefer Fish era, But Hogarth is pretty ok too. Renaissance Pendragon Pallas, Jeez, I could go on forever! I've a collection that ranges from New Age to Led Zeppelin, with lots of grooooovy stuph in between! Then I get really tweaky & dig out the Magma on occasion:) Pam Michael Habiby wrote: > Hmmm..... > > Hawkwind probably 33% to 25%. > > NO WAY to figure the other percentages. BUT I have been listening to the > following recently. In no order what so ever. > > Amon Duul II (just got Phallus Dei on VINYL) > Pierre Moerlin's Gong (Time is the Key is nearly a religious experience) > Ozric Tentacles (earlier than later) > Monster Magnet (the new one rocks) > BOC (Heaven Forbid and first three recently) > Spice Girls (hee hee... NOT!!) > Camel (Mostly live and Rajaz) > Steve Hackett (Tokyo Tapes gets good rotation) > Porcupine Tree > IQ (Forever Live is AMAZING) > > Mike in Troy NY -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Message-ID: IMO, the more it sounds like Lemmy playing the Dr. Who theme, the more spacerock it is ;) Cheers, Carl ObCD: Gjallarhorn, _Sjofn_. -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 03:10:59 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 03:10:59 EST Subject: HW:top 10 Message-ID: Oh..And just out of interest my HW top 10 is; 1 Space Ritual 2 Hawklords 25 yrs 3 QSC 4 Mountain Grill 5 Love in Space 6 1999 party live 7 Electric teepee 8 In your Area ( Yes I do like it a lot...For now) 9 Undisclosed Files 10 Space Ritual 2 All the above are just a snapshot in time of my current HW tastes,Except for Space ritual ,which IMHO is THE greatest album ever made , bar none !!!!....and QSC and Hawklords will always complete my all time favourite top 3. My least fave is always going to be Yuri Gagarin and all its bastard children, despite the excellent wage war ( ithink the appalling recording quality adds a sort of "Subversiveness " to it). My Top Non HW Artistes are ; 1 Alan Stivell 2 Man 3 Bevis Frond 4 Gong / Daevid Allen 5 Miles Davies (Well the Bitches brew / Live evil era) 6 Nektar 7 Afro Celt Sound System 8 Banco Da Gaia 9 Ozrics 10 Tom Rapp / Pearls before Swine As with the HW the above is a bit of a snapshot, but Afrocelts, Gong, Alan Stivell and Tom Rapp, and Bevis are ALWAYS there. And while im in a list mood 10 current most played albums 1 Alan Stivell..Back to Breizh 2 Ozrics...Jurassic shift 3 Man..Back to the future 4 Pearls before swine ..Balaclava (If youve never heard this I urge you to seek it out) 5 Nektar...Tab in the Ocean (See above !!) 7 Bevis Frond...Any Gas Faster (also see above !!) 8 Orb ..Cydonia 9 Banco Da Gaia...Igizeh 10 AfroCelt Sound System... Vol 2 And my most played HW related albums are EVERYTHING by Bob.(esp live at QEH) Oh well hope I havent bored you all.... Any Alan Stivell fans out there, or am I the only one on the list ? Interesting thought....What are the least likely , least HW connected bands appreciated by list members? Hows that for a topic ? Do I win with Alan Stivell ? ...I nearly suggested that Miles davies would win it, but I recall that he was an influence on NIk once upon a time I think.. Cheers for now chaps...Im off to work then off to Catch the Lev's on tour. All the best Alistair From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 03:13:29 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 03:13:29 EST Subject: Apologies Message-ID: Just noticed my Address book BOC-L entry automatically picked a few names for the copy to box...I apologise if anyone got 2 copies of rec ent posts ...error has been corrected. From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 03:22:48 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 03:22:48 EST Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? Message-ID: Yes...I like Carls definition ..Lemmy playing the Dr Who theme...Can I suggest we adopt that as a definitive description ? (Nice one Carl !!) From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 03:25:27 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 03:25:27 EST Subject: HW:Space rock...IT IS! DRUMROLL PLEASE!!! Message-ID: I think Samantha just won the suggested " least similar to HW but also listened to by Hawkfans award " for the NWA and Eminem bit !! From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Mar 19 03:34:05 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 02:34:05 -0600 Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Yes...I like Carls definition ..Lemmy playing the Dr Who theme...Can I >suggest we adopt that as a definitive description ? > (Nice one Carl !!) I'm down with that as well, but shouldn't we give Alan a twang at it, before we disturb Lemmy's hectic schedule...???? m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Mar 19 03:37:27 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 02:37:27 -0600 Subject: HW:Space Rocked apart In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I think Samantha just won the suggested " least similar to HW but also >listened to by Hawkfans award " for the NWA and Eminem bit !! but I like Kid Rock and Pimpadelic! yea..that was cool that she had the guts,,,,,I like her.... m From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Mon Mar 19 03:43:30 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:43:30 +0000 Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 02.34 -0600 19.3.2001, Mike Coleman wrote: >> Yes...I like Carls definition ..Lemmy playing the Dr Who theme...Can I >>suggest we adopt that as a definitive description ? >> (Nice one Carl !!) > > I'm down with that as well, but shouldn't we give Alan a twang at it, >before we disturb Lemmy's hectic schedule...???? But since Alan's interpretation would be so heavily informed by a kind of Platonic ideal of Lemmy's interpretation .... it seemed to best to go to the source :) Cheers, Carl ps - which is not to say Bedouin shouldn't start playing it in concert immediately, though it doesn't really fit in with Alan's "No Sleep 'til Mecca" image ;) -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Mar 19 03:48:05 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:48:05 -0000 Subject: HW:Space Rocked apart Message-ID: Stop it now - I'll go all bashful. Honestly, I'll listen to anything - virtually (no abstract jazz!!) and I think in the past 5 or so years even the commercial scene has improved - I think more people appreciate more variance now - people aren't so segregated in their tastes. I mean Carlos Santana won awards last year - how late was that in coming???!!?? Obviously, I've got little time for boy/girl bands and the boom-de-boom scene but their are some astounding voices (particularly female) and lyricists out there. I used to be totally HW orientated but besides missing out on some great music I realised it's pointless listening to progressive rock if you're not willing to progress yourself. Is that too profound for this early in the day? Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mike Coleman [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: 19 March 2001 08:37 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW:Space Rocked apart > I think Samantha just won the suggested " least similar to HW but also >listened to by Hawkfans award " for the NWA and Eminem bit !! but I like Kid Rock and Pimpadelic! yea..that was cool that she had the guts,,,,,I like her.... m *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Mar 19 03:54:38 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 02:54:38 -0600 Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carl Anderson "illuminated": >But since Alan's interpretation would be so heavily informed by a >kind of Platonic ideal of Lemmy's interpretation .... it seemed to >best to go to the source :) >ps - which is not to say Bedouin shouldn't start playing it in >concert immediately, though it doesn't really fit in with Alan's "No >Sleep 'til Mecca" image ;) YOU GOT IT MAN! I Tip my HAT to that!!!! mike PS...seems HW fans I know DO LOVE that theme ...I really wish they would cover it!!!!! From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Mar 19 04:01:40 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 03:01:40 -0600 Subject: HW:Space Rocked apart..WAIT SAM In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D9035E31D1@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: OH NO!! DON'T BE ROUGE FACED!!!!!! what about me and my going on the limb after you!!!! even if I don't count as "people" , it's still gutsy ..... and PS...I was thinking about getting Eminem for my local drinking buddy who likes that....but I'm afraid that'll be what gets my window broken by the police for sure.... hey DOUG! thats how I'll score the tape of one of my encounters! lightbulb mode: ON m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Mar 19 04:17:46 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 03:17:46 -0600 Subject: OFF..overpost In-Reply-To: Message-ID: please forgive if i overposted/annoyed....(again, again, etc.) i know the world doesn't belong to me.... mike c From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Mar 19 05:58:46 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 05:58:46 -0500 Subject: Non Hawky stuff Message-ID: Lemme see, non Hawky stuff on heavy rotation at present are; Billy Cobham (as always) Atomic Bitchwax UFO b**tlegs Makaveli (Toss It Up, Toss It Up, nhh!) Supernaut by Black Sabbath (which I have on on my discman on repeat play - 2 days now:-) That difficult 3rd Magma album Jerry Lee Lewis - Me & Bobby McGhee Tommy James doing a cover version of I Love You Love Me Love, and The Best of Chet Baker sings. Stuart From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Mar 19 05:59:37 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 05:59:37 -0500 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: Where, when, its less than a week now! The George? What time. Stuart From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 07:07:02 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:07:02 +0000 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A In-Reply-To: <9.128712cc.27e71913@aol.com> Message-ID: My top ten non-HW bands that begin with A are: AC/DC AFRICAN HEAD CHARGE AGITATION FREE ANDROMEDA ANDWELLA'S DREAM ASH RA TEMPEL ASTRALASIA ATARI TEENAGE RIOT ATTACK, THE AXELROD, DAVID AYREON close runners-up: ANIMATED EGG APOLLO 440 ACTION, THE (I am counting ALLEN, DAVID as GONG) I strongly suspect I am going to like ATOMIC ROOSTER when I get their stuff, as JOHN DU CANN was in both THE ATTACK and ANDROMEDA. I *really* like ANDROMEDA! (Cream-style heavy blues/psyche) Favourite non-existent Hawkwind tribute band beginning with A THE ANDROID REPLICAS -- Jon From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Mar 19 07:32:06 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:32:06 -0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A In-Reply-To: Message-ID: They're all good, but so are AMON DUUL AMON DUUL II ATOM GODS ANDROIDS OF MU A SILVER MT ZION AND YOU WILL KNOW US BY THE TRAIL OF DEAD AGNOSTIC FRONT and I used to like ALL ABOUT EVE, too, but it was 1988... -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Jon Browne > Sent: 19 March 2001 12:07 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A > > > My top ten non-HW bands that begin with A are: > > AC/DC > AFRICAN HEAD CHARGE > AGITATION FREE > ANDROMEDA > ANDWELLA'S DREAM > ASH RA TEMPEL > ASTRALASIA > ATARI TEENAGE RIOT > ATTACK, THE > AXELROD, DAVID > AYREON > > > close runners-up: > > ANIMATED EGG > APOLLO 440 > ACTION, THE > > (I am counting ALLEN, DAVID as GONG) > I strongly suspect I am going to like ATOMIC ROOSTER when I get their > stuff, as JOHN DU CANN was in both THE ATTACK and ANDROMEDA. > I *really* like ANDROMEDA! (Cream-style heavy blues/psyche) > > > Favourite non-existent Hawkwind tribute band beginning with A > > THE ANDROID REPLICAS > -- > Jon > > From pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 07:53:07 2001 From: pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Peter Wibrew) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:53:07 -0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: ANDROIDS OF MU Havn't heard that name in a long, long, long time. I have a compilation of stuff of theirs from the Fuck off tapes somewhere in a box, I must dig it out and listen again.......God only knows where it is! Peter http://www.geocities.com/pwibrew/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gilham" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A > They're all good, but so are > > AMON DUUL > AMON DUUL II > ATOM GODS > ANDROIDS OF MU > A SILVER MT ZION > AND YOU WILL KNOW US BY THE TRAIL OF DEAD > AGNOSTIC FRONT > > and I used to like ALL ABOUT EVE, too, but it was 1988... > > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Jon Browne > > Sent: 19 March 2001 12:07 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A > > > > > > My top ten non-HW bands that begin with A are: > > > > AC/DC > > AFRICAN HEAD CHARGE > > AGITATION FREE > > ANDROMEDA > > ANDWELLA'S DREAM > > ASH RA TEMPEL > > ASTRALASIA > > ATARI TEENAGE RIOT > > ATTACK, THE > > AXELROD, DAVID > > AYREON > > > > > > close runners-up: > > > > ANIMATED EGG > > APOLLO 440 > > ACTION, THE > > > > (I am counting ALLEN, DAVID as GONG) > > I strongly suspect I am going to like ATOMIC ROOSTER when I get their > > stuff, as JOHN DU CANN was in both THE ATTACK and ANDROMEDA. > > I *really* like ANDROMEDA! (Cream-style heavy blues/psyche) > > > > > > Favourite non-existent Hawkwind tribute band beginning with A > > > > THE ANDROID REPLICAS > > -- > > Jon > > > > From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Mar 19 07:58:43 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:58:43 -0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Alien Sex Fiend - Top Acid Psychedelia often forgotten! Can't count to ten without taking shoes and socks off........... Sam -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] Sent: 19 March 2001 12:32 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A They're all good, but so are AMON DUUL AMON DUUL II ATOM GODS ANDROIDS OF MU A SILVER MT ZION AND YOU WILL KNOW US BY THE TRAIL OF DEAD AGNOSTIC FRONT and I used to like ALL ABOUT EVE, too, but it was 1988... -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Jon Browne > Sent: 19 March 2001 12:07 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A > > > My top ten non-HW bands that begin with A are: > > AC/DC > AFRICAN HEAD CHARGE > AGITATION FREE > ANDROMEDA > ANDWELLA'S DREAM > ASH RA TEMPEL > ASTRALASIA > ATARI TEENAGE RIOT > ATTACK, THE > AXELROD, DAVID > AYREON > > > close runners-up: > > ANIMATED EGG > APOLLO 440 > ACTION, THE > > (I am counting ALLEN, DAVID as GONG) > I strongly suspect I am going to like ATOMIC ROOSTER when I get their > stuff, as JOHN DU CANN was in both THE ATTACK and ANDROMEDA. > I *really* like ANDROMEDA! (Cream-style heavy blues/psyche) > > > Favourite non-existent Hawkwind tribute band beginning with A > > THE ANDROID REPLICAS > -- > Jon > > *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 08:07:15 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:07:15 +0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Andy Gilham writes >They're all good, but so are > >AMON DUUL >AMON DUUL II darn, how could I forget them? They'd easily make top Ten over ANDWELLA'S DREAM....have to go and do it all over again now. pah! -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 08:10:20 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:10:20 +0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D9035E31E2@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: In article <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D9035E31E2 at mast- lu0-se02.private.ntl.com>, Sam Kirwan writes >Alien Sex Fiend - Top Acid Psychedelia often forgotten! > >Can't count to ten without taking shoes and socks off........... >Sam heh! I was seriously thinking of Alien Sex Fiend, but thought it would be disingenuous as I haven't bought anything since "Lips Can't Go!" Besides, they're very rood! "Ride my rocket up Uranus, baby, yeah!" - disgraceful. -- Jon From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 08:17:59 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:17:59 -0500 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:10:20 +0000, Jon Browne wrote: >In article <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D9035E31E2 at mast- >lu0-se02.private.ntl.com>, Sam Kirwan writes >>Alien Sex Fiend - Top Acid Psychedelia often forgotten! Indeed! Are they still around? "I'm livin' in a nightmare zone They took my cat, now I'm on my own" priceless From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Mar 19 08:19:11 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:19:11 -0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: We walk the line........ Sam -----Original Message----- From: Jon Browne [mailto:jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: 19 March 2001 13:10 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A In article <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D9035E31E2 at mast- lu0-se02.private.ntl.com>, Sam Kirwan writes >Alien Sex Fiend - Top Acid Psychedelia often forgotten! > >Can't count to ten without taking shoes and socks off........... >Sam heh! I was seriously thinking of Alien Sex Fiend, but thought it would be disingenuous as I haven't bought anything since "Lips Can't Go!" Besides, they're very rood! "Ride my rocket up Uranus, baby, yeah!" - disgraceful. -- Jon *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 08:27:08 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:27:08 -0500 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Fave ASF chucklesome moment: On the sleeve of one of their EPs, I forget which, there's a parody of the Sisters Of Mercy logo. You may recall that every Sisters record bore the legend "A Merciful Release". So ASF had a pic of a giant turd, captioned "A Merciful Relief". Oh how I sniggered. From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Mar 19 08:26:48 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:26:48 -0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Not sure - is it likely considering the amount of EVERYTHING they used to do???? 'All Our Yesterdays' and 'Another Planet' are two of my all time favourite albums and Nik & Mrs Fiend will always have a special place - truly one of the loony tunes. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Nick Medford [mailto:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: 19 March 2001 13:18 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:10:20 +0000, Jon Browne wrote: >In article <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D9035E31E2 at mast- >lu0-se02.private.ntl.com>, Sam Kirwan writes >>Alien Sex Fiend - Top Acid Psychedelia often forgotten! Indeed! Are they still around? "I'm livin' in a nightmare zone They took my cat, now I'm on my own" priceless *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 08:28:07 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:28:07 +0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Astralasia Abysinians Asian dub foundation Ash Afro celtic sound system Alien sex fiend Anti pasti all about ave GG Allin - dirty bastard Air ( ever noticed how the 1st track on their album changes into a very close, almost identical Assault and Battery from the Warrior album). Its what made me buy it.... Sam Kirwan wrote: > Alien Sex Fiend - Top Acid Psychedelia often forgotten! > > Can't count to ten without taking shoes and socks off........... > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] > Sent: 19 March 2001 12:32 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A > > They're all good, but so are > > AMON DUUL > AMON DUUL II > ATOM GODS > ANDROIDS OF MU > A SILVER MT ZION > AND YOU WILL KNOW US BY THE TRAIL OF DEAD > AGNOSTIC FRONT > > and I used to like ALL ABOUT EVE, too, but it was 1988... > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Jon Browne > > Sent: 19 March 2001 12:07 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A > > > > > > My top ten non-HW bands that begin with A are: > > > > AC/DC > > AFRICAN HEAD CHARGE > > AGITATION FREE > > ANDROMEDA > > ANDWELLA'S DREAM > > ASH RA TEMPEL > > ASTRALASIA > > ATARI TEENAGE RIOT > > ATTACK, THE > > AXELROD, DAVID > > AYREON > > > > > > close runners-up: > > > > ANIMATED EGG > > APOLLO 440 > > ACTION, THE > > > > (I am counting ALLEN, DAVID as GONG) > > I strongly suspect I am going to like ATOMIC ROOSTER when I get their > > stuff, as JOHN DU CANN was in both THE ATTACK and ANDROMEDA. > > I *really* like ANDROMEDA! (Cream-style heavy blues/psyche) > > > > > > Favourite non-existent Hawkwind tribute band beginning with A > > > > THE ANDROID REPLICAS > > -- > > Jon > > > > > > *********************************************************************************** > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > *********************************************************************************** From bwaje at CLARANET.FR Mon Mar 19 08:35:10 2001 From: bwaje at CLARANET.FR (bwaje) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:35:10 +0100 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 12:07 19/03/01 +0000, you wrote: >My top ten non-HW bands that begin with A are: > >AC/DC >AFRICAN HEAD CHARGE >AGITATION FREE >ANDROMEDA >ANDWELLA'S DREAM >ASH RA TEMPEL >ASTRALASIA >ATARI TEENAGE RIOT >ATTACK, THE >AXELROD, DAVID >AYREON > > >close runners-up: > >ANIMATED EGG >APOLLO 440 >ACTION, THE > >(I am counting ALLEN, DAVID as GONG) >I strongly suspect I am going to like ATOMIC ROOSTER when I get their >stuff, as JOHN DU CANN was in both THE ATTACK and ANDROMEDA. >I *really* like ANDROMEDA! (Cream-style heavy blues/psyche) > > >Favourite non-existent Hawkwind tribute band beginning with A > >THE ANDROID REPLICAS >-- >Jon Not forgetting ABOU-KHALIL, RABIH APHRODITE'S CHILD ATOLL AYERS, KEVIN Olivier Boigey www.bwaje.com Hawkzone The stars are matter, we are matter, but it doesn't matter - Don Van Vliet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Mar 19 08:31:12 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:31:12 -0600 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: The only thing GG Allin was good for was throwing his shit at the audience.Glad I never saw him live!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: iain ferguson [mailto:iainferguson at AOL.COM] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:28 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A Astralasia Abysinians Asian dub foundation Ash Afro celtic sound system Alien sex fiend Anti pasti all about ave GG Allin - dirty bastard Air ( ever noticed how the 1st track on their album changes into a very close, almost identical Assault and Battery from the Warrior album). Its what made me buy it.... Sam Kirwan wrote: > Alien Sex Fiend - Top Acid Psychedelia often forgotten! > > Can't count to ten without taking shoes and socks off........... > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] > Sent: 19 March 2001 12:32 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A > > They're all good, but so are > > AMON DUUL > AMON DUUL II > ATOM GODS > ANDROIDS OF MU > A SILVER MT ZION > AND YOU WILL KNOW US BY THE TRAIL OF DEAD > AGNOSTIC FRONT > > and I used to like ALL ABOUT EVE, too, but it was 1988... > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Jon Browne > > Sent: 19 March 2001 12:07 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A > > > > > > My top ten non-HW bands that begin with A are: > > > > AC/DC > > AFRICAN HEAD CHARGE > > AGITATION FREE > > ANDROMEDA > > ANDWELLA'S DREAM > > ASH RA TEMPEL > > ASTRALASIA > > ATARI TEENAGE RIOT > > ATTACK, THE > > AXELROD, DAVID > > AYREON > > > > > > close runners-up: > > > > ANIMATED EGG > > APOLLO 440 > > ACTION, THE > > > > (I am counting ALLEN, DAVID as GONG) > > I strongly suspect I am going to like ATOMIC ROOSTER when I get their > > stuff, as JOHN DU CANN was in both THE ATTACK and ANDROMEDA. > > I *really* like ANDROMEDA! (Cream-style heavy blues/psyche) > > > > > > Favourite non-existent Hawkwind tribute band beginning with A > > > > THE ANDROID REPLICAS > > -- > > Jon > > > > > > **************************************************************************** ******* > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > **************************************************************************** ******* From bart at ENGAGE.NU Mon Mar 19 08:42:29 2001 From: bart at ENGAGE.NU (Bart Brugmans) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:42:29 +0100 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010319143449.00a37ec0@pop.bwaje.com> Message-ID: And how about: Antrhrax Art of Noise Artzte --BArt From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Mar 19 08:54:17 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:54:17 -0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: As appeared also on the front of the banned 'Smells like Sh1t' album. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Nick Medford [mailto:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: 19 March 2001 13:27 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A Fave ASF chucklesome moment: On the sleeve of one of their EPs, I forget which, there's a parody of the Sisters Of Mercy logo. You may recall that every Sisters record bore the legend "A Merciful Release". So ASF had a pic of a giant turd, captioned "A Merciful Relief". Oh how I sniggered. *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Mar 19 09:49:44 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:49:44 +0800 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Hi I'd also go with AMON DUUL AMON DUUL II ANUBIAN LIGHTS APHRODITE'S CHILD That's all I can think of at the moment William From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 10:53:51 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:53:51 EST Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A///OFF: G.G.A. -_- Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/01 8:41:27 AM, LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << The only thing GG Allin was good for was throwing his shit at the audience.Glad I never saw him live!!!!!!!! >> ===== well, his brother has turned him into some kinda mail-order cottage industry... "i'm selling my brother i'm pimping my son [reference to Al Hendrix] i'm screwing the princess i'll let you know when i'm done" [==unfinished song, "selling my brother", begun a few days before the death of princess Diana; i subsequently discarded the idea.] === my band Disarray played the Living Room in Providence in '82, apparently a day or two after ol' G.G. played there....we were told how folks in the crowd were bombing him w/plastic beer cups full of...something other than beer. leaving it like that, this one remains... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 11:02:54 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:02:54 EST Subject: Non Hawky stuff Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/01 5:59:22 AM, stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK writes: << Tommy James doing a cover version of I Love You Love Me Love, >> ===== LOLOLOLOLOLOL tommy goes glitter! "<>" now playing: all there is on my current playlist... the last 2 Natacha Atlas cd's plus her Remix Collection, all purchased in the last week.... "<>" From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Mar 19 10:58:10 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:58:10 -0600 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A///OFF: G.G.A. -_- Message-ID: I used to have a friend that was a GG fan.I bet he wouldn't be very happy if threw piss and shit at him. He would probably like it from GG. Its a scumfuc tradition.Excuse my language!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 9:54 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A///OFF: G.G.A. -_- In a message dated 3/19/01 8:41:27 AM, LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << The only thing GG Allin was good for was throwing his shit at the audience.Glad I never saw him live!!!!!!!! >> ===== well, his brother has turned him into some kinda mail-order cottage industry... "i'm selling my brother i'm pimping my son [reference to Al Hendrix] i'm screwing the princess i'll let you know when i'm done" [==unfinished song, "selling my brother", begun a few days before the death of princess Diana; i subsequently discarded the idea.] === my band Disarray played the Living Room in Providence in '82, apparently a day or two after ol' G.G. played there....we were told how folks in the crowd were bombing him w/plastic beer cups full of...something other than beer. leaving it like that, this one remains... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 11:08:32 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:08:32 EST Subject: Non Hawky stuff//"busted flat in Baton Rouge..." Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/01 5:59:22 AM, stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK writes: << Jerry Lee Lewis - Me & Bobby McGee >> === i believe 'king of the road' Roger Miller was the first to release that song as a single ['69], followed by a version by Kris Kristofferson...and then..well, you know. unfortunate that she didnt live to do another take of those vocals; she wouldnt've okayed that take. "<>" From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Mar 19 11:17:36 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:17:36 -0500 Subject: HW: Daniel Lanois Message-ID: I don't know if this has been discussed here before, but I discovered that Daniel Lanois, who has worked with U2, Peter Gabriel, etc. has a song called "Where the Hawkwind Kills" on his first album, "Acadie" from '89. Any connection to HW beyond the name? AllMusic describes the album as a cross between "ethereal" folk and New Orleans R&B. Brian From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 11:35:31 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:35:31 -0500 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:54:17 -0000, Sam Kirwan wrote: >As appeared also on the front of the banned 'Smells like Sh1t' album. > Didn't know there was such an album. But the song 'Smells Like...' is a classic gonzoid acid-punk number... how my friend and I used to enjoy watching Tory politicians being interviewed on TV while we bellowed 'smells like shiiiitt!!!" in a razor-gargling Nik Fiend kind of way. What with this and the GG Allin debate, the list is getting pretty shitty this afternoon. I thought GG was tedious and horrible: anti-music, anti- life, anti-everything: seems a very childish form of rebellion to me, but each to his own I s'pose. Did people like him 'cos being completely unacceptable will always win you some fans ("he throws shit at the audience?? That's like, totally cool, dude!!") or were there deeper reasons? No intention of offending anyone here (unlike GG), just curious... From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 11:49:23 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:49:23 EST Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with AAAACCCCKKKKKKKKKKK ?!?!?! Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/01 11:35:57 AM, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: << I thought GG was tedious and horrible: anti-music, anti- life, anti-everything: seems a very childish form of rebellion to me, but each to his own I s'pose. Did people like him 'cos being completely unacceptable will always win you some fans ("he throws shit at the audience?? That's like, totally cool, dude!!") or were there deeper reasons? No intention of offending anyone here (unlike GG), just curious... >> ====== laugh/sigh dont get me wrong; i thought he was abysmal. just a freak show in axion. as such, not missed. "<>" From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Mar 19 11:43:29 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:43:29 -0600 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: GG is dead now,I think from an overdose.I used to be a punk,20 years ago,and GG has nothing important to say. He was a waste of life,had no talent.I mean who wants to hear about masterbation. GG, I think was just trying to get attention in a sick and perverted way. I think he ripped off WAYNE COUNTY and the ELECTRIC CHAIRS. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Nick Medford [mailto:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:36 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:54:17 -0000, Sam Kirwan wrote: >As appeared also on the front of the banned 'Smells like Sh1t' album. > Didn't know there was such an album. But the song 'Smells Like...' is a classic gonzoid acid-punk number... how my friend and I used to enjoy watching Tory politicians being interviewed on TV while we bellowed 'smells like shiiiitt!!!" in a razor-gargling Nik Fiend kind of way. What with this and the GG Allin debate, the list is getting pretty shitty this afternoon. I thought GG was tedious and horrible: anti-music, anti- life, anti-everything: seems a very childish form of rebellion to me, but each to his own I s'pose. Did people like him 'cos being completely unacceptable will always win you some fans ("he throws shit at the audience?? That's like, totally cool, dude!!") or were there deeper reasons? No intention of offending anyone here (unlike GG), just curious... From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 11:52:34 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:52:34 +0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Ni Nick, I mentioned GG allin cos my genuine list of A's only came to 9. I bought a video of GG allin Live about 5 years ago in the US. I have yet to play it !!! I just cant bring myself to watching shit throwing hahaha ROTFL. sorry i'm splitting mysides just typing this !! I know nothing of the guy other than the cover of the Video, Sorry to bring the Hawkwind discussion down to the level of GG Allin. It was in the end a joke regards iain ( not so proud owner of one soiled ? video ) Nick Medford wrote: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:54:17 -0000, Sam Kirwan > wrote: > > >As appeared also on the front of the banned 'Smells like Sh1t' album. > > > > Didn't know there was such an album. But the song 'Smells Like...' is a > classic gonzoid acid-punk number... how my friend and I used to enjoy > watching Tory politicians being interviewed on TV while we bellowed 'smells > like shiiiitt!!!" in a razor-gargling Nik Fiend kind of way. > > What with this and the GG Allin debate, the list is getting pretty shitty > this afternoon. I thought GG was tedious and horrible: anti-music, anti- > life, anti-everything: seems a very childish form of rebellion to me, but > each to his own I s'pose. Did people like him 'cos being completely > unacceptable will always win you some fans ("he throws shit at the > audience?? That's like, totally cool, dude!!") or were there deeper reasons? > > No intention of offending anyone here (unlike GG), just curious... From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 12:03:11 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:03:11 EST Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/01 11:53:34 AM, LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << GG is dead now,I think from an overdose. >> ===== eeeek! forgive me for remembering this shwa. mr.Allin attempted to die onstage-in new york i believe- but it didnt work, and he died later that day. the gig, like most of his gigs, ended in shambles. but G.G. and Darby Crash were then able to discuss onstage overdoses, and the vagaries of trying to die onstage, from the afterlife, or sub-afterlife, or..... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 12:05:21 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:05:21 EST Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/01 11:53:34 AM, LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << I think he ripped off WAYNE COUNTY and the ELECTRIC CHAIRS. >> ==== nah..... that was a decade previous, and WAYNE had become JAYNE by then. "<>" From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Mar 19 12:04:18 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:04:18 -0600 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Darby was just Self-destructive,he was entertaining when he wasn't too wasted.He was a victim of his environment. Most of the punks back then were that way. The song "I was wrong" by SOCIAL DISTORTION is a good example of that time period. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 11:03 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A In a message dated 3/19/01 11:53:34 AM, LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << GG is dead now,I think from an overdose. >> ===== eeeek! forgive me for remembering this shwa. mr.Allin attempted to die onstage-in new york i believe- but it didnt work, and he died later that day. the gig, like most of his gigs, ended in shambles. but G.G. and Darby Crash were then able to discuss onstage overdoses, and the vagaries of trying to die onstage, from the afterlife, or sub-afterlife, or..... "<>" From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Mar 19 12:06:15 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:06:15 -0600 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: I was thinking of the songs 'toilet love' and 'if you don't want to f*** me,f*** off.STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 11:05 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A In a message dated 3/19/01 11:53:34 AM, LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << I think he ripped off WAYNE COUNTY and the ELECTRIC CHAIRS. >> ==== nah..... that was a decade previous, and WAYNE had become JAYNE by then. "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 12:22:25 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:22:25 EST Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A//OFF: darby crash Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/01 12:14:44 PM, LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << Darby was just Self-destructive,he was entertaining when he wasn't too wasted.>> === be that as it may, he made a lot of noise re: his onstage suicide, announced the day quite a bit in advance...though he balked, and ended up dying anyway [though not onstage] now playing, somewhere: "rock and roll suicide", Zig Bowie "<>" From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 12:36:47 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:36:47 -0500 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:52:34 +0000, iain ferguson wrote: >Ni Nick, Ni there! > >I mentioned GG allin cos my genuine list of A's only came to 9. Then I heartily commend the mighty AFRICAN HEAD CHARGE to you!! Check out the albums 'My Life In A Hole In The Ground' or 'Drastic Season'... more fun than flingin' the faeces any day! From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 12:41:42 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:41:42 EST Subject: OFF: in "A", a couple more [dung-flingers excluded] Message-ID: *The Adverts and a new one, just this week: *Natacha Atlas "<>" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Mar 19 12:39:55 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:39:55 -0500 Subject: HW: OFF: Top everything Message-ID: Hi Folks... The damn university server was down again (happens every spring break it seems), so I'm just catching up with hundreds of messages... Let's see, where to start... Top 5 HW albums... 1. Warrior on the Edge of Time 2. Levitation 3. Space Ritual 4. Quark, Strangeness, and Charm 5. Electric Tepee (since Palace Springs is more 'old' stuff) Top 10 non-Hawkwind* bands beginning with the letter Q Queensryche Queens of the Stone Age Queen Quarkspace Quatermass (Mr.) Quimby's Beard Quidam The Quill Quantum Jump Quiet Sun *how could it be otherwise? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ SPACE ROCK is exactly what *I* say it is. :) Actually, it's whatever Marc Power says it is in his Space Rock Manifesto, so he gets blamed for it. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I can't believe people listen to as much as 30%-50% of Hawkwind....that's crazy! :) I suppose I listen to Hawkwind CDs (on average) about as much as my other CDs, and my Hawkwind CDs (including solo works, but not Motorhead) probably only represent about 7-8% of my collection. But then I've been listening to many of these albums since 1980 (when I heard them *a lot* more, since I had many fewer things), whereas now at least 50% of my collection is stuff from just the last 4 years or so. But still, even spending 20% or more on any given band to me is bordering on obsession. :) To each his own, I suppose...I have known people (even 'intelligent' adults...not just teenagers) who will play the same song over about 4 times in a row (and I don't mean musicians trying to learn it, or transcribe it...just for enjoyment). That would drive me nuts! I've done it just a few times to try to write down the lyrics...it's risky 'cause I threaten becoming extremely bored with it in no time. I wish I was that addicted to Hawkwind alone...then I would be happy with just a couple hundred CDs. :) My listening profile (as of today).... Hawkwind, 'trad. space rock', free festy bands - 20% Electronic Post-rock - 15% ('cause it's a relatively new part of my collection') Krautrock - 10% Stoner rock - 10% Classic rock - 10% Heavy Metal - 10% Progressive - 10% Shoegazer/Dream-space - 5% Alternative - 5% Folk, Pop, Reggae, Jazz, Jam - 5% so about 50% SPACE ROCK, given the most generalized description...but again, only a fraction is Hawkwind. That doesn't mean it's not head-and-shoulders about the rest (I think it is, but for a few other select bands, namely Gong, Amon Duul II, and AgFree)....I just feel the need to hear it less and less as the years go by. And I get much more enjoyment hearing Space Ritual Remastered once every few months (when I say to myself...."Ah, you know, this other new stuff I've been hearing all the time, as good as it is, isn't quite like this old masterpiece") than if I played it to death still (twenty years after hearing it for the first time). I once lived in a house dubbed 'Terrapin Station', and so I know what happens to some people when they become *way* too obsessed with one (not-very-good) band...and that is, they no longer become 'music' fans, but just 'fans for the sake of being fans'. Whatever that means. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. I'd actually moved out of the house before I even knew what Terrapin Station referred to...not that I hadn't heard enough Dead by then to make me vomit. From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Mar 19 13:25:30 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:25:30 -0000 Subject: HW: Daniel Lanois In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I remember this coming up several years ago - the "Hawk Wind" in question may or may not be the cold wind off the lake that blows through Chicago... the album's not bad, from what I've heard, but I really like the album he produced for Emmylou Harris, WRECKING BALL. -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Brian Halligan > Sent: 19 March 2001 16:18 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: Daniel Lanois > > > I don't know if this has been discussed here before, but I discovered that > Daniel Lanois, who has worked with U2, Peter Gabriel, etc. has a > song called > "Where the Hawkwind Kills" on his first album, "Acadie" from '89. > > Any connection to HW beyond the name? AllMusic describes the album as a > cross between "ethereal" folk and New Orleans R&B. > > Brian > > From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Mon Mar 19 14:31:28 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:31:28 +0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 12.32 +0000 19.3.2001, Andy Gilham wrote: >and I used to like ALL ABOUT EVE, too, but it was 1988... Hey, the acoustic version of AAE I saw last month was extremely cool, though admitedly not as cool as they would have been had they been electric. Julie Regan can still sing :) Then again, I've seldom been good at listening to music from the correct decade :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Mon Mar 19 14:37:17 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:37:17 +0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D9035E31E6@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: I'll throw in my votes for: ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND AMORPHIS ANNBJ?RG LIEN (no weakling alphabetization by last name for us!) and even the ALBION BAND (my street cred was toast long ago :) ACRIMONY while I'm at it (R.I.P). Oh, and ALAN DAVEY, why not (still no weakling alphabetization by last name for us! :) Cheers, Carl ps - the first ANUBIAN LIGHTS albums tweren't bad, though the second was tedious. -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Mon Mar 19 14:44:42 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:44:42 +0000 Subject: HW: OFF: Top everything In-Reply-To: <200103191750.MAA24158@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: >I can't believe people listen to as much as 30%-50% of Hawkwind....that's >crazy! :) No lie, bwana! Admittedly, periods of time will pass during which I listen to nothing but HW, but then I won't listen to HW for ages. My listening habits tend to shift dramatically with the season, weather, and whatever I'm doing at the moment. >P.S. I'd actually moved out of the house before I even knew what Terrapin >Station referred to...not that I hadn't heard enough Dead by then to make me >vomit. I still like the Dead :) though am not as attached to them as I was in my teens. But I don't think I've ever gone off music that I once liked. Pretty much, when I like something, I like it forever. In fact, I've been thinking I finally need to get around to replacing my GDead vinyl with CD .... :) it might happen eventually :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 19 14:50:35 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:50:35 -0500 Subject: OFF : The one true religion for Kev Message-ID: On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:15:57 EST, Bob Lennon wrote: >now, what the hell I want to know is how could anyone score anything >above 0% when every question was answered 100% against any supreme >being/superstition of any kind? this thing is not accurate at all ... > >disclaimer...the above testament was not meant to offend anyone of these >faiths....just making fun of this survey thing.... Sounds a lot like the (I think it's called) "shortest political quiz" that's floating around on some libertarian website. No matter what your answers to the quiz are, it will tell you that you are (surprise surprise) actually a libertarian, and you never knew it the whole time! -Doug (who worships neither Yahweh nor Ayn Rand) ceres at sirius.com From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 14:52:26 2001 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (blueskin69) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:52:26 +0000 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: Hi Alissa The full track list for the correct Spacebrock CD is as follows : LIFE FORM SOME PEOPLE NEVER DIE DREAMERS EARTH BREATH YOU BURN ME UP THE RIGHT WAY SEX DREAMS TO BE OR NOT KAUAI EARTH CALLING STARKNESS OF THE CAPSULE BEHIND THE FACE SPACEBROCK SPACE PILOTS 1st LANDING THE JOURNEY DO YOU WANT THIS BODY Hope that helps. Cheers. Gordon. Alissa wrote: > Hello! > > I need help on Spacebrock. > > What is the tracklisting on the correct cd (not the one with missing > tracks)? > > thanks, > Alissa From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Mar 19 15:09:29 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:09:29 -0500 Subject: HW: Daniel Lanois In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Andy Gilham wrote: > I remember this coming up several years ago - the "Hawk Wind" in question > may or may not be the cold wind off the lake that blows through Chicago... > the album's not bad, from what I've heard, but I really like the album he > produced for Emmylou Harris, WRECKING BALL. The Chicago theory seems plausible. It is after all the "windy city." On the other hand, AllMusic says he's from Hull, Quebec and moved with his family to a suburb of Hamilton, Ontario. So maybe a Hawk Wind is related to Hamilton--a nickname for a weather system akin to the "Alberta Clippers" or "NorEasters" the Northeast US gets hit with from time to time. In any case, I don't see a Hawkwind connection in the lyrics I just found online: The suburb walls are closing in I've looked at you and I've seen you through your curtain With a naked eye from not far, I've shed a tear for you, a flowing fountain Flaming trees, I'm lost in fields of your hair >From where the hawkwinds kill and the blood runs thin I'll go now, fly I will >From inside the gates of the stripping yard I can't touch you, I can't feel for this thunder town I want you now while my body is young, my mind is strong away from thunder town >From where the hawkwind kills and the dam runs deep In this land of heaven, not so sweet I turn my back to a godless night I hear the mighty stranger over thunder hill >From where the hawkwinds kill and the blood runs thin I'll go now, fly I will... Over the mountain I must go To see the valley below Thunder town... From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Mon Mar 19 15:33:59 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:33:59 -0500 Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? Message-ID: Al Ogilvy wrote: > Its intersting that a lot of list people listen to Ozrics and gong > also...(Not just from the few recent posts but from previous > discussions)....Alot of us appear to be into the ( very loosely defined ) > Genre of "Space Rock" and not just HW freaks. > Which beggars the question...How do you define space rock ? is it anything > with a sci fi element to it ? ..If so then that opens the door to a lot of > crud....(just think of it...Intergalactic Touring band comes to mind..and > while they shared the prog top ten with us , The Moodys are responsible for > one or two awful Sci fi touches to there worst moments (dont get me wrong...I > like some Moodys stuff)..Or UFO at there worst (flame on if you must > !.....Just let me point out I like some of UFOs stuff too...I just think some > of there earlier sci fi touches are cringe making). > The Top 10 Space rock lists have shown some individuals Ideas of space rock, > but too me, theyve highlighted the fact that theres a lot of room for > individual interpretation in the label. > Me I find it hard to label most things i like...And how important is it too > label it anyway ?...I just thought it would be fun to see what individuals > interpretations of the label are. > Is the definition the sound ? what makes that sound ? is it the bleebs, > swooshes ( oh,good word !!), and other assorted synthi effects, or is it the > rythmns (Or isnt that " Blanga"). > Anyway, HW s style and sound changes so frequently , when are they space > rock ? > Anyone want to play ? > > Even the GEPR calls Space Rock sub-genre: "Like space fusion but without the jazz edge, more of a straight forward type of space rock. Hawkwind were almost the be all and end all of this genre and were the innovators. " Mike -- "The Future is something which everyone reaches at the rate of sixty minutes an hour, whatever he does, whoever he is." -- C. S. Lewis From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Mon Mar 19 15:35:18 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:35:18 -0500 Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? Message-ID: Second try: Even the GEPR wimps out and says this about "Space Rock" sub - genre: "Like space fusion but without the jazz edge, more of a straight forward type of space rock. Hawkwind were almost the be all and end all of this genre and were the innovators. " Mike -- "The Future is something which everyone reaches at the rate of sixty minutes an hour, whatever he does, whoever he is." -- C. S. Lewis From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Mon Mar 19 15:38:09 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:38:09 -0500 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: It is completely impossible for me to throw percentages on my listening, but for the sake of argument I'll attempt to join in the fun... Hawkwind 40% Klaus Schulze 10% various dreampop (Cocteau Twins, Pale Saints, My Bloody Valentine etc.) 20% various indie rock (Husker Du, Thin White Rope, Jets to Brazil, Fugazi, Guided By Voices etc) 30% John Majka jmajka2 at home.com From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Mon Mar 19 15:48:20 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:48:20 -0500 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: I don't know that GG was ever punk, in the strictest sense of the term. Really it was just a lot of sensationalism of the worst kind and anti-everything attitude, which is pretty much 180 degrees from the ideology of punk, which has always identified itself as more of a thinking-person's music. GG was counter to intellectualism in every way... not too far different from mainstream rockstars, just on an underground scale. The lamest of the lame. As a side note, my band played one time at a club somewhere in Michigan which was being run by someone associated with GG, and it was the seediest dive I've ever been to... upstairs there were all these heroin addicts just lying around on beanbag chairs listening to hardcore 7" singles on one of those toy record players you used to have when you were in elementary school. Ugly people in an ugly room with nothing going on.... just sitting there staring at the gray floor, totally zonked out.... utterly depressing. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > GG is dead now,I think from an overdose.I used to be a punk,20 years ago,and > GG has nothing important to say. He was a waste of life,had no talent.I mean > who wants to hear about masterbation. GG, I think was just trying to get > attention in a sick and perverted way. I think he ripped off WAYNE COUNTY > and the ELECTRIC CHAIRS. > STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Medford [mailto:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:36 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A > > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:54:17 -0000, Sam Kirwan > wrote: > > >As appeared also on the front of the banned 'Smells like Sh1t' album. > > > > Didn't know there was such an album. But the song 'Smells Like...' is a > classic gonzoid acid-punk number... how my friend and I used to enjoy > watching Tory politicians being interviewed on TV while we bellowed 'smells > like shiiiitt!!!" in a razor-gargling Nik Fiend kind of way. > > What with this and the GG Allin debate, the list is getting pretty shitty > this afternoon. I thought GG was tedious and horrible: anti-music, anti- > life, anti-everything: seems a very childish form of rebellion to me, but > each to his own I s'pose. Did people like him 'cos being completely > unacceptable will always win you some fans ("he throws shit at the > audience?? That's like, totally cool, dude!!") or were there deeper reasons? > > No intention of offending anyone here (unlike GG), just curious... > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 19 16:27:22 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:27:22 -0500 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums(err,,,) Message-ID: On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:21:04 +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >At 03.39 -0500 18.3.2001, Darrin McKeehen wrote: >>err..... >>I spoke incorrectly about the Magnu>Angels from Reading '86..... >>It's the Dream Worker that kicks it!! > >Certainly the best version of Dream Worker that I can recall. I picked up the Friday Rock Show/Reading CD fairly recently and although it's one of my least-fave Hawkwind albums (the excellent bass playing doesn't make up for the plodding drumming, unfocused lead guitar, simplistic keyboards & not enough rhythm guitar ... IMHO), the version of "Dream Worker" DOES make it entirely worthwhile for me. I like Huw's playing (which I'm ordinarily not a big fan of) quite a bit when he does that kind of stuff ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 19 16:29:02 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:29:02 -0500 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:07:02 +0000, Jon Browne wrote: >Favourite non-existent Hawkwind tribute band beginning with A > >THE ANDROID REPLICAS Mine is AD HAWK (but that's 'cause it was my band!). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 16:34:58 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:34:58 EST Subject: HW: Daniel Lanois Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/01 8:15:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > Any connection to HW beyond the name? AllMusic describes the album as a > cross between "ethereal" folk and New Orleans R&B. > > Brian > Of course...Eno plays on the album, and his synth can be heard (barely, of course) on this very track ("Where the HW Kills"). One of my all-time favorite albums, I think the ethereal folk/N. Orleans R'n'B is a decent description, better than I could have done. Chuck From mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET Mon Mar 19 16:46:33 2001 From: mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET (Mark Robertson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:46:33 -0000 Subject: HW: Ultimate fame Message-ID: Tonight's 'Nevermind the Buzzcocks' featured in the Guess the intro round a rendition of Silver Machine by Sean Hughes and Miles Hunt... not guessed by any one! (me included!!!) Mark From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Mar 19 16:50:58 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:50:58 -0000 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: Does anyone have a track listing for the mispress? ----- Original Message ----- From: blueskin69 To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:52 PM Subject: Re: spacebrock > Hi Alissa > > The full track list for the correct Spacebrock CD is as follows : > LIFE FORM > SOME PEOPLE NEVER DIE > DREAMERS > EARTH BREATH > YOU BURN ME UP > THE RIGHT WAY > SEX DREAMS > TO BE OR NOT > KAUAI > EARTH CALLING > STARKNESS OF THE CAPSULE > BEHIND THE FACE > SPACEBROCK > SPACE PILOTS > 1st LANDING > THE JOURNEY > DO YOU WANT THIS BODY > > Hope that helps. > Cheers. > > Gordon. > > Alissa wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > I need help on Spacebrock. > > > > What is the tracklisting on the correct cd (not the one with missing > > tracks)? > > > > thanks, > > Alissa From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 16:50:45 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:50:45 EST Subject: OFF!!: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: okay, you guys asked for it... (well, sort of) 1.Artillery 2.Agent Steel 3.Annihilator 4.Atrophy 5.Anacrusis 6.Asphyx 7.Assassin 8.Attacker 9.Accused (w/Umlaut) 10.Abbatoir :):):):) Metal Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 16:58:01 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:58:01 EST Subject: OFF: 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Not even A, actually, but with all the GGA stuff, I thought I'd mention (at the risk of being spammed...I can handle anything over the computer) that I'm probably the only Mentors/El Duce fan on the list. Sort of a less-serious, more tongue-in-cheek (yeah, I know...) version of GG perhaps... He was hit by a train in (of all places) Riverside a few years ago... Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 16:59:48 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:59:48 EST Subject: HW: top five hawk albums(err,,,) Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/01 1:27:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > I picked up the Friday Rock Show/Reading CD fairly recently and although > it's one of my least-fave Hawkwind albums (the excellent bass playing > doesn't make up for the plodding drumming, unfocused lead guitar, > simplistic keyboards & not enough rhythm guitar ... IMHO), the version > of "Dream Worker" DOES make it entirely worthwhile for me. I like Huw's > playing (which I'm ordinarily not a big fan of) quite a bit when he does > that kind of stuff ... > > -Doug totally agreed, though perhaps the "You've got to be there...or BE SQUARE" line taints it a bit, but that's Harvey for ya... Chuck From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Mar 19 17:52:20 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:52:20 -0500 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post In-Reply-To: <00f501c0ae71$6f6c9b60$f536883e@jds>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 11:32:49PM -0000 Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 11:32:49PM -0000, Jill Strobridge wrote: > From: Kevin Sommers > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 8:20 AM > > > > Help! I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is > surely > > near. > > Hail Eris All Hail Discordia > And make mine a BIG yellow submarine Assorted, hold the tomatoes :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Mar 19 17:49:07 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:49:07 -0500 Subject: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble Message-ID: Hiya... FYI...interesting news - I'd been looking for this for quite awhile - glad I didn't find a crappy vinyl copy before I read this. :) THE BLACK SUN ENSEMBLE - S/T - Australia's Camera Obscura label has finally made us very happy by reissuing the first LP by this Arizona band led by some of the most utterly indescribable and magic guitar playing I've ever encountered. Note that there is another self-titled BSE album that some think was a bigger label reissue of this one but that is a completely different record. This was pressed by the band in very small numbers, discovered by psych collectors and hidden away in collections around the world. The sound has a certain middle eastern sort of Al Bassim vibe in places but where Bassim moves in jazz directions this moves into the vast open spaces of the desert. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Now, does anybody know about this other self-titled BSE disc? I have (or have heard) three studio albums (including the 2000 release) and a live CD (that seems like it might be kinda rare as well). So is the complete BSE (perhaps an unfortunate abbreviation) discography total six full-length-type releases? Grakkl (FAA) NP: The Roots of Orchis - When the Mosquito Stung the Crocodile From qsoroaddog at YAHOO.COM Mon Mar 19 18:01:30 2001 From: qsoroaddog at YAHOO.COM (RoadDog) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:01:30 -0800 Subject: HW:bands that start with the letter Q for 1000 please Message-ID: Hi everybody! I don't know about the bands below, but QUASI STELLULAR OBJECT is the king of bands that start with the letter Q. Now I'm not saying they are better than Queen, but wouldn't they be the queen of bands that start with the letter Q? Top 10 non-Hawkwind bands beginning with the letter Q Queensryche Queens of the Stone Age Queen Quarkspace Quatermass (Mr.) Quimby's Beard Quidam The Quill Quantum Jump Quiet Sun Harvester of Eyes RoadDog "Breaker, Breaker, it looks like we got a busload of hippies comin over HWY 17. Looks like they're high on LSD"-Live Free or Die, Quasi Stellular Object __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Mon Mar 19 18:16:14 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:16:14 -0800 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Well, haven't seen this one go by yet: Angel'in Heavy Syrup I just wish that all their releases were available on cd, I only have III. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Mar 19 18:19:05 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:19:05 -0500 Subject: OFF: Farflung Message-ID: On The Belief Module... Of course, we all predicted that this one would become rare quite quickly, due to the fact that the Bad Acid zine/label lived such a short life. But then I think Andy Gee said quite a few were laying around from the original pressing. Anybody know where they all went? I think I got mine from meteorcity.com, but I just checked there (well, stonerrock.com now is where the store is currently residing) and it's not listed any longer. www.nrgmusic.com was one place that lists it, but I remember that they were one of those places that I ordered a disc from (Korai Orom it was) and it was backordered for like six years. :) I think the order may still be pending actually. By the time they get it in stock, the price will be really good...what with decades of inflation and all. :) Actually, GEMM.com lists their fill rate at 66%, so perhaps a chance it might be had from them. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. The Myth of Solid Ground...ever released? (other than the initial run of 30 CD-Rs) Does Big Jesus (the supposed label of choice) have any web presence? From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 18:41:23 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:41:23 +0000 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums(err,,,) In-Reply-To: <65.116b4788.27e7db54@aol.com> Message-ID: In message <65.116b4788.27e7db54 at aol.com>, Chuck Rosenberg writes >In a message dated 3/19/01 1:27:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM >writes: > >> I picked up the Friday Rock Show/Reading CD fairly recently and although >> it's one of my least-fave Hawkwind albums (the excellent bass playing >> doesn't make up for the plodding drumming, unfocused lead guitar, >> simplistic keyboards & not enough rhythm guitar ... IMHO), the version >> of "Dream Worker" DOES make it entirely worthwhile for me. I like Huw's >> playing (which I'm ordinarily not a big fan of) quite a bit when he does >> that kind of stuff ... >> >> -Doug > >totally agreed, though perhaps the "You've got to be there...or BE SQUARE" >line taints it a bit, but that's Harvey for ya... Chuck Sounds like I need to get this- I LOVE the version on Zones with the ghostly guitar sound and Nik's eerie, robotic delivery... is this in a similar vein? -- Nick Medford From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 19:18:56 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:18:56 +0000 Subject: OFF!!: top 10 beginning with A In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Chuck Rosenberg writes >okay, you guys asked for it... (well, sort of) > >1.Artillery >2.Agent Steel >3.Annihilator >4.Atrophy >5.Anacrusis >6.Asphyx >7.Assassin >8.Attacker >9.Accused (w/Umlaut) >10.Abbatoir > >:):):):) Metal Chuck bravo! encore! Chuck roolZ! -- Jon From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 19:20:32 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:20:32 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 3/17/01 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm (sometimes 8) PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck TO everyone who called this week: Thanks for making Space a little less lonely!!!!! 3/17 1.Lithium X-mas-- "Jump Into the Fire" (Bad Karma) 2.Alchemysts/Simeon-- "Interstellar 1-2-5" (ST'd) 3.Fuxa-- "Some Soviet Station" (Accretion) 4.Cosmic Courriers-- title track (Other Places) 5.Defender-- "Sin the Sizer" (promo) 6.Hawkwind-- "10 Seconds of Forever/Brainstorm" (Space Ritual 2) 7.Third Eye Foundation-- "I Have Known Love" (Electronic Evocations: a Tribute to the Silver Apples) 8.Systems Theory-- "Under Oriental Skies" (Demos '99--'00; thanks to SDM!) 9.Kopecky-- "Magic Room" (Serpentine Kaleidoscope; thanks to Karen!) 10.Spirits Burning-- "The Ticking of Science" (New Worlds by Design) 11.Throbbing Gristle-- "Convincing People" (20 Jazz Funk Greats; dedicated to Krissy) 12.Pressurehed-- "Bluff Creek, and Beyond" (Explaining the Unexplained) 13.Lothars-- "The Coronation of King Lothar" (Serotonin Ronin II comp) 14.Guru Guru-- "Electric Junk" (Hinten; Space Ship:the Best of) 15.Farflung-- "Vision of Infinity" (So Many Minds, So Little Time; Space Box comp; dedicated to Hardy) 16.Chrome-- "Slip It to the Android" (Alien Soundtracks; Chrome Box; dedicated to AllDataLost) 17.Cluster-- title-track (Sowiesoso) 18.Aslan's-- "Mother Monarch" (Bloomington Electronic Music Coalition Vol. 2 comp) 19.Circle-- "Back to Pori" (Pori) 20.Silver Apples-- "Ruby" (Contact) 21.Vas Deferens Organization-- "The Matmos" (Sweat Your Cheeses...) 22.Residents-- "Farmers" (Hell!) 23.Census of Hallucinations-- "Planetary Allignment" (ST'd) 24.Hawkwind-- "Born to Go" (Acid Daze/Anthology edit; dedicated to CoolChick) thanks, Chuck From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 19:21:40 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:21:40 EST Subject: OFF..overpost Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/01 4:15:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > i know the world doesn't belong to me.... > > No, but I'm sure we could set up some very agreeable lease terms and payments. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 19:27:25 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:27:25 EST Subject: OFF: Farflung Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/01 3:31:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > Grakkl (FAA) > > P.S. The Myth of Solid Ground...ever released? (other than the initial run > of 30 CD-Rs) Does Big Jesus (the supposed label of choice) have any web > presence? Not sure if you'd heard yet, but a local SoCal label/distributor (Falcata Galia, located in Rialto of all places!!) is supposed to be releasing their next album... Chuck PS: Was Raven That Ate the Moon released on Flipside? Is it really rare? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Mar 19 14:41:07 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:41:07 -0000 Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? Message-ID: no - count me out unless you want the discussion group answer to 'War And Peace' - I think it would be kinder to the rest of you if I passed on this one........... Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Ogilvy" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:25 AM Subject: Re: HW:Space rock...What it is ? > Its intersting that a lot of list people listen to Ozrics and gong > also...(Not just from the few recent posts but from previous > discussions)....Alot of us appear to be into the ( very loosely defined ) > Genre of "Space Rock" and not just HW freaks. > Which beggars the question...How do you define space rock ? is it anything > with a sci fi element to it ? ..If so then that opens the door to a lot of > crud....(just think of it...Intergalactic Touring band comes to mind..and > while they shared the prog top ten with us , The Moodys are responsible for > one or two awful Sci fi touches to there worst moments (dont get me wrong...I > like some Moodys stuff)..Or UFO at there worst (flame on if you must > !.....Just let me point out I like some of UFOs stuff too...I just think some > of there earlier sci fi touches are cringe making). > The Top 10 Space rock lists have shown some individuals Ideas of space rock, > but too me, theyve highlighted the fact that theres a lot of room for > individual interpretation in the label. > Me I find it hard to label most things i like...And how important is it too > label it anyway ?...I just thought it would be fun to see what individuals > interpretations of the label are. > Is the definition the sound ? what makes that sound ? is it the bleebs, > swooshes ( oh,good word !!), and other assorted synthi effects, or is it the > rythmns (Or isnt that " Blanga"). > Anyway, HW s style and sound changes so frequently , when are they space > rock ? > Anyone want to play ? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Mar 19 14:44:01 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:44:01 -0000 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Auburn Lull (sort of) - superb though!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Brugmans" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 1:42 PM Subject: Re: HW:top 10 beginning with A > And how about: > > Antrhrax > Art of Noise > Artzte > > --BArt From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Mar 19 20:04:00 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:04:00 -0000 Subject: OFF: Nukli Message-ID: absolutely spot on - and there is a third Nukli casseette too but I've completely forgotten the title - just as good as the other two though. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Raymond" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 4:18 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Nukli > I have an old Psy Nukli cassette, called Psychelektra Trip Projecta. I > think from 1983. Poor quality sound, but the music is incredible. It is > interspersed with talking of some sort. I would love to hear a quality > cd of this recording. I have another tape from Nukli called At Last, I > have not heard it lately. I was underwhelmed by the Time Factory cd. I > thought the cassettes were better music. > Chris > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Mar 19 20:07:36 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:07:36 -0000 Subject: OFF: Klaus Schulze Message-ID: dunno about Greyhound but I think we're about ?225 at CDS but if yuo want me to check I can let you know (and you get the seventeen and a half percent deduction off our price whatever it turns out to be, too if you're outside EEC) Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff & Pam Wheaton" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:57 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Klaus Schulze > > > I am passionately lustful for the > > > new 50 CD Klaus Shulze 5 x 10 Box-Sets-Set > > > > > > I want to impatiently rip off its flimsy cellophane shrink-wrap, > > > flinging it away, fan all the discs carelessly over the rug, and slip > > > one at random into the player. > > > > > > I can get it wholesale off Greyhound for only 300 quid plus VAT > > > > > > ooohhh... the temptation! > > > -- > > > Jon > > -- > Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton > _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace > 0 0 E-mail: cwheaton at TransWestTaxi.com > URL:http://www.TransWestTaxi.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Mar 19 20:09:14 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:09:14 -0000 Subject: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: ah yes Magma - the new triple CD box set is out now and it's just awesome!!!!!! Andy Garibaldi andygee at dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff & Pam Wheaton" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:03 AM Subject: Re: top five hawk albums-part ll > Then I get really tweaky & dig out the Magma on occasion:) > Pam > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Mar 19 20:17:58 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:17:58 -0000 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: ooops- you've got the wrong ones there, my son.....if yuo want the ultimate Schulze album in one easy sitting then it has to be either 'Moondawn' or 'Mirage' or the best of the lot, 'X' - don't like those, then KS is not for you, old fruit. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "J D" To: Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 11:46 PM Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll > As for Herr Schulze, got Irrlicht & Black Dance on vinyl, played neither in > past 10 years! > Maybe these aren't representative of his works, but then again, maybe he's > just not my cup of tea! > > Jez > From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Mon Mar 19 22:28:04 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:28:04 -0500 Subject: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble Message-ID: From: "K Henderson" > FYI...interesting news - I'd been looking for this for quite awhile - glad I > didn't find a crappy vinyl copy before I read this. :) > > THE BLACK SUN ENSEMBLE - S/T - Australia's Camera Obscura label has > finally made us very happy by reissuing the first LP by this Arizona > band led by some of the most utterly indescribable and magic guitar > playing I've ever encountered. Note that there is another self-titled > BSE album that some think was a bigger label reissue of this one but > that is a completely different record. This was pressed by the band in > very small numbers, discovered by psych collectors and hidden away in > collections around the world. The sound has a certain middle eastern > sort of Al Bassim vibe in places but where Bassim moves in jazz > directions this moves into the vast open spaces of the desert. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Now, does anybody know about this other self-titled BSE disc? I have (or > have heard) three studio albums (including the 2000 release) and a live CD > (that seems like it might be kinda rare as well). So is the complete BSE > (perhaps an unfortunate abbreviation) discography total six full-length-type > releases? Are they talking about their first lp Called "First LP"? Looks like the same band members playing on both. All I have is Lambent Flame and Elemental Forces (and it's been a while since I listened to them - have to give them a spin soon). Jerry From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 22:34:06 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:34:06 EST Subject: HW: top five hawk albums(err,,,) Message-ID: In a message dated 3/19/01 3:43:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > > > >> I picked up the Friday Rock Show/Reading CD fairly recently and although > >> it's one of my least-fave Hawkwind albums (the excellent bass playing > >> doesn't make up for the plodding drumming, unfocused lead guitar, > >> simplistic keyboards & not enough rhythm guitar ... IMHO), the version > >> of "Dream Worker" DOES make it entirely worthwhile for me. I like Huw's > >> playing (which I'm ordinarily not a big fan of) quite a bit when he does > >> that kind of stuff ... > >> > >> -Doug > > > >totally agreed, though perhaps the "You've got to be there...or BE SQUARE" > >line taints it a bit, but that's Harvey for ya... Chuck > > Sounds like I need to get this- I LOVE the version on Zones with the > ghostly guitar sound and Nik's eerie, robotic delivery... is this in a > similar > vein? > -- Nah, this is more of a song-like version, sung awesomely by Harvey... Just listened to Zones again for the first time in a while...still not too impressed, except for "The Island". > Nick Medford > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Mar 19 23:18:20 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:48:20 +1030 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A///OFF: G.G.A. -_- Message-ID: Trhowing CRAP into the audience?? Are you serious? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 2:28 AM Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A///OFF: G.G.A. -_- > I used to have a friend that was a GG fan.I bet he wouldn't be very happy if > threw piss and shit at him. He would probably like it from GG. Its a scumfuc > tradition.Excuse my language!!!!!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 9:54 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A///OFF: G.G.A. -_- > > > In a message dated 3/19/01 8:41:27 AM, LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM writes: > > << The only thing GG Allin was good for was throwing his shit at the > > audience.Glad I never saw him live!!!!!!!! > > >> > ===== > well, his brother has turned him into some kinda mail-order cottage > industry... > > "i'm selling my brother > i'm pimping my son [reference to Al Hendrix] > i'm screwing the princess > i'll let you know when i'm done" > > [==unfinished song, "selling my brother", begun a few days before the death > of princess Diana; i subsequently discarded the idea.] > === > my band Disarray played the Living Room in Providence in '82, apparently a > day or two after ol' G.G. played there....we were told how folks in the > crowd > were bombing him w/plastic beer cups full of...something other than beer. > > leaving it like that, this one remains... > > "<>" > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Mar 19 23:21:05 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:51:05 +1030 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A///OFF: G.G.A. -_- Message-ID: I'd imagine there has never been a tribute band then? ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 2:28 AM Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A///OFF: G.G.A. -_- > I used to have a friend that was a GG fan.I bet he wouldn't be very happy if > threw piss and shit at him. He would probably like it from GG. Its a scumfuc > tradition.Excuse my language!!!!!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 9:54 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A///OFF: G.G.A. -_- > > > In a message dated 3/19/01 8:41:27 AM, LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM writes: > > << The only thing GG Allin was good for was throwing his shit at the > > audience.Glad I never saw him live!!!!!!!! > > >> > ===== > well, his brother has turned him into some kinda mail-order cottage > industry... > > "i'm selling my brother > i'm pimping my son [reference to Al Hendrix] > i'm screwing the princess > i'll let you know when i'm done" > > [==unfinished song, "selling my brother", begun a few days before the death > of princess Diana; i subsequently discarded the idea.] > === > my band Disarray played the Living Room in Providence in '82, apparently a > day or two after ol' G.G. played there....we were told how folks in the > crowd > were bombing him w/plastic beer cups full of...something other than beer. > > leaving it like that, this one remains... > > "<>" > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Mar 19 23:36:08 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:06:08 +1030 Subject: HW: OFF: Top everything Message-ID: > >I can't believe people listen to as much as 30%-50% of Hawkwind....that's > >crazy! :) No - its heavenly!! --(i've sussed out that delete button - see - no mess underneath huh huh!!!! tee hee Mb 8>B From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Mar 19 23:40:22 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:10:22 +1030 Subject: OFF..overpost Message-ID: >>i know the world doesn't belong to me.... >>No, but I'm sure we could set up some very agreeable lease terms and >> payments. Sorry but Bill Gates has that one patented not that theres anything wrong with that! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Loehr To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:51 AM Subject: Re: OFF..overpost In a message dated 3/19/01 4:15:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: i know the world doesn't belong to me.... No, but I'm sure we could set up some very agreeable lease terms and payments. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Tue Mar 20 01:41:46 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:41:46 EST Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Ok...How about: Alquin Automatic man Please own up...some of these names are made up arent they ? From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 20 01:44:52 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:14:52 +1030 Subject: naked hawks Message-ID: This is something I had been debating on asking the list for some time now - but have not done so untill now after reading the FANTSTIC book by Kris Tait!!! A few years back - Friend & mentor (Roy 'Spider' Godfrey) - who sadly passed on a few years back - related a story of a Hawkwind concert he and his then girlfriend had gone to see a cocert where the Hawks had performed nude. I think he said it was around 1970 - 71 It wasn't untill I read in Kris' book a newspaper clipping - Group pops up in the nude that I thought I'd mention it Anyone else have any recollections of this event - media response? audience participation? Freaky happenings? The Kurious Katt Mb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Tue Mar 20 01:44:05 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:44:05 EST Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: cant wait till we start on Z !!! From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Mar 20 02:09:22 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:09:22 -0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: WooHoo - love African Head Charge - only got an old festie tape though - been played many.....many.....times. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Nick Medford [mailto:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: 19 March 2001 17:37 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:52:34 +0000, iain ferguson wrote: >Ni Nick, Ni there! > >I mentioned GG allin cos my genuine list of A's only came to 9. Then I heartily commend the mighty AFRICAN HEAD CHARGE to you!! Check out the albums 'My Life In A Hole In The Ground' or 'Drastic Season'... more fun than flingin' the faeces any day! *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Mar 20 01:30:16 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:30:16 -0500 Subject: A Pointless Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 08:51 PM 3/15/01 EST, Joe Loehr wrote: >Who (or is it whom?) was driving the Starship Hawkwind on the cover of Hall >of the Mountain Grill? > >I hope they had insurance. The cover of "Space Bandits" should have the answer... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Mar 20 02:16:55 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 02:16:55 -0500 Subject: BOC/HW link? (was naked hawks) In-Reply-To: <001001c0b109$54e3a140$c9cb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: At 05:14 PM 3/20/01 +1030, Michael W Blackman wrote: > This is something I had been debating on asking the list for some time >now - but have not done so untill now after reading the FANTSTIC book by >Kris Tait!!! & I think he said it was around 1970 - 71 It wasn't >untill I read in Kris' book a newspaper clipping - Group pops up in the >nude that I thought I'd mention it audience participation? Freaky >happenings? Well, if we needed another link between Hawkwind and BOC, BOC has often performed at nudist resorts and IIRC got signed to Columbia following contacts made at one of these gigs... don't know if they ever performed nude, though... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Mar 20 02:25:24 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:25:24 -0000 Subject: naked hawks Message-ID: Oh Dear - busting ribs and rolling round clutching stomach now. That should give me something to grin inanely about all day. I've read the book too but I must have zoned off at some point and missed that. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: 20 March 2001 06:45 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: naked hawks This is something I had been debating on asking the list for some time now - but have not done so untill now after reading the FANTSTIC book by Kris Tait!!! A few years back - Friend & mentor (Roy 'Spider' Godfrey) - who sadly passed on a few years back - related a story of a Hawkwind concert he and his then girlfriend had gone to see a cocert where the Hawks had performed nude. I think he said it was around 1970 - 71 It wasn't untill I read in Kris' book a newspaper clipping - Group pops up in the nude that I thought I'd mention it Anyone else have any recollections of this event - media response? audience participation? Freaky happenings? The Kurious Katt Mb *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Mar 20 02:27:04 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:27:04 -0000 Subject: A Pointless Question Message-ID: Is that the one with the big ugly demon looking bloke on the front - not at home can't check?? If it is - you're probably right. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Apold [mailto:mordru at FLITE.NET] Sent: 20 March 2001 06:30 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: A Pointless Question At 08:51 PM 3/15/01 EST, Joe Loehr wrote: >Who (or is it whom?) was driving the Starship Hawkwind on the cover of Hall >of the Mountain Grill? > >I hope they had insurance. The cover of "Space Bandits" should have the answer... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 20 02:56:54 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:26:54 +1030 Subject: naked hawks Message-ID: It doesn't say they were nude just that they might ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Kirwan To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 5:55 PM Subject: Re: naked hawks > Oh Dear - busting ribs and rolling round clutching stomach now. That should > give me something to grin inanely about all day. I've read the book too but > I must have zoned off at some point and missed that. > > > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: 20 March 2001 06:45 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: naked hawks > > > This is something I had been debating on asking the list for some time now - > but have not done so untill now after reading the FANTSTIC book by Kris > Tait!!! > > A few years back - Friend & mentor (Roy 'Spider' Godfrey) - who sadly passed > on a few years back - related a story of a Hawkwind concert he and his then > girlfriend had gone to see a cocert where the Hawks had performed nude. I > think he said it was around 1970 - 71 > It wasn't untill I read in Kris' book a newspaper clipping - Group pops up > in the nude that I thought I'd mention it > Anyone else have any recollections of this event - media response? audience > participation? > Freaky happenings? > > The Kurious Katt > > Mb > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** ******* > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > **************************************************************************** ******* > From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 02:57:03 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 02:57:03 -0500 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Top 10 Bands Beginning with A Might I add ANTHRAX. Any band that can combine Judge Dredd and Public Enemy in their career deserves attention. As they said EFILNIKCUFECIN; read it backwards. And some of their stuff is so damn HEAVY. Mark From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Mar 20 02:58:56 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:58:56 -0000 Subject: naked hawks Message-ID: Sorry - still a great thought though!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: 20 March 2001 07:57 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: naked hawks It doesn't say they were nude just that they might ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Kirwan To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 5:55 PM Subject: Re: naked hawks > Oh Dear - busting ribs and rolling round clutching stomach now. That should > give me something to grin inanely about all day. I've read the book too but > I must have zoned off at some point and missed that. > > > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: 20 March 2001 06:45 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: naked hawks > > > This is something I had been debating on asking the list for some time now - > but have not done so untill now after reading the FANTSTIC book by Kris > Tait!!! > > A few years back - Friend & mentor (Roy 'Spider' Godfrey) - who sadly passed > on a few years back - related a story of a Hawkwind concert he and his then > girlfriend had gone to see a cocert where the Hawks had performed nude. I > think he said it was around 1970 - 71 > It wasn't untill I read in Kris' book a newspaper clipping - Group pops up > in the nude that I thought I'd mention it > Anyone else have any recollections of this event - media response? audience > participation? > Freaky happenings? > > The Kurious Katt > > Mb > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** ******* > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > **************************************************************************** ******* > *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Mar 20 03:41:13 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 02:41:13 -0600 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A//OFF: darby crash Message-ID: HERE LIES DARBY CRASH WITH AN ARROW THROUGH HIS HEAD -----Original Message----- From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 11:22 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A//OFF: darby crash In a message dated 3/19/01 12:14:44 PM, LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << Darby was just Self-destructive,he was entertaining when he wasn't too wasted.>> === be that as it may, he made a lot of noise re: his onstage suicide, announced the day quite a bit in advance...though he balked, and ended up dying anyway [though not onstage] now playing, somewhere: "rock and roll suicide", Zig Bowie "<>" From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 03:59:38 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:59:38 -0000 Subject: ledge of darkness graphic novel Message-ID: Hi, I just got the Hawkwind 25 years book set yesterday and it came with the "ledge of darkness" graphic novel. Very good it all is too! I have a question though. I can work out what hawkwind members are which characters in the book except one. The scantily clad female dancer who accompanies the hawklords through most of the story. I don't think she's Stacia. If not who is she. She's the one with the nuns habit and is bare breasted. cheers *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Mar 20 04:17:27 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:17:27 -0500 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A In-Reply-To: <00dc01c0b0dc$fa9d9960$599cbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: wot? no Accept? (after flak dies down) Amon Duul, tho... and Ash Ra Temple... here's predicting we won't get past "B" ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 20 05:03:06 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:33:06 +1030 Subject: naked hawks Message-ID: he heh ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Kirwan To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:28 PM Subject: Re: naked hawks > Sorry - still a great thought though!! > > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: 20 March 2001 07:57 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: naked hawks > > > It doesn't say they were nude just that they might > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sam Kirwan > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 5:55 PM > Subject: Re: naked hawks > > > > Oh Dear - busting ribs and rolling round clutching stomach now. That > should > > give me something to grin inanely about all day. I've read the book too > but > > I must have zoned off at some point and missed that. > > > > > > Sam > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > > Sent: 20 March 2001 06:45 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: naked hawks > > > > > > This is something I had been debating on asking the list for some time > now - > > but have not done so untill now after reading the FANTSTIC book by Kris > > Tait!!! > > > > A few years back - Friend & mentor (Roy 'Spider' Godfrey) - who sadly > passed > > on a few years back - related a story of a Hawkwind concert he and his > then > > girlfriend had gone to see a cocert where the Hawks had performed nude. I > > think he said it was around 1970 - 71 > > It wasn't untill I read in Kris' book a newspaper clipping - Group pops up > > in the nude that I thought I'd mention it > > Anyone else have any recollections of this event - media response? > audience > > participation? > > Freaky happenings? > > > > The Kurious Katt > > > > Mb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > ******* > > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files > transmitted > > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the > personal attention > > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, > disclosure or > > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > > > Thank you > > NTL > > > **************************************************************************** > ******* > > > > > **************************************************************************** ******* > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > **************************************************************************** ******* From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Tue Mar 20 07:44:55 2001 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:44:55 EST Subject: naked hawks Message-ID: Hi Michael, If you read the Captain's LOG that came with the In Search Of Space Album, Im sure Its says about an incident where the band got arrested ( in leeds i think) for playing naked and handing out Droogs). I interviewed the band a number of years ago and asked them about it but none could rememebr what happened regards iain PS to all... i didnt mean to clog up the listserv with GG Allin stuff... honest it was a joke, i'm just so suprised that so many people know about him.... From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Mar 20 08:03:20 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:03:20 -0600 Subject: naked hawks/ CLOTHED S, KING In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I thought it was just Terry Ollis who used to like to get "A Freak On", fall off the drumstool. and play in the nude...... also....on another tangent....it occured to me.....wonder if anyone has the art that was on Simon Kings old 70's drumhead...... is THAT not the coolest piece of Bubbles(?) artwork??.......wouldn't that make a Hawkwind poster to fall off a drumstool for if a "logo" were added??? sitting, waiting, hoping, praying, needing, wanting, craving, wishing.....for MC in inboxxx.... tweak-ness From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Mar 20 08:17:23 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:17:23 -0500 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:41:46 EST, Al Ogilvy wrote: >Ok...How about: > >Alquin >Automatic man > > Please own up...some of these names are made up arent they ? Can I claim alhabetic precedence with: AARDVARK - Demented early prog-rockers, somewhere between early Caravan & Quatermass (M entry for Q *g*) - eponymous album on DERAM/NOVA ChrisW From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Mar 20 08:20:04 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:20:04 -0500 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:44:05 EST, Al Ogilvy wrote: > cant wait till we start on Z !!! Can I get last as well as first with ZZEBRA (OK, depending on sort sequence I may get beaten by ZZ Top...) Am I getting obsessive/excessively obscure here?.... ChrisW From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Mar 20 08:24:20 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:24:20 -0000 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Don't forget Zarozania's Zany Slug Band! (well maybe) Sam -----Original Message----- From: Chris Warburton [mailto:desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM] Sent: 20 March 2001 13:20 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW:top 10 beginning with A On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:44:05 EST, Al Ogilvy wrote: > cant wait till we start on Z !!! Can I get last as well as first with ZZEBRA (OK, depending on sort sequence I may get beaten by ZZ Top...) Am I getting obsessive/excessively obscure here?.... ChrisW *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Mar 20 08:43:22 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:43:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Daniel Lanois In-Reply-To: <31.12058888.27e7d582@aol.com> Message-ID: Chuck wrote: > Of course...Eno plays on the album, and his synth can be heard (barely, of > course) on this very track ("Where the HW Kills"). One of my all-time > favorite albums, I think the ethereal folk/N. Orleans R'n'B is a decent > description, better than I could have done. Chuck Sounds like an album I could get into, though I'm having a hard time reconciling "ethereal" and New Orleans R&B. Maybe that's what's cool about it though? Brian ob New Orleans R&B> Little Georgie and the Shuffling Hungarians "Live from Styleen's Rhythm Palace, Syracuse, NY" ob HW> How about a full-blown spacey/R&B horn section for the next incarnation of HW? Sort of Spacerock meets Chicago's "25 or 6 to 4." OK, forget I mentioned it. ;-) From chrisr at TIAC.NET Tue Mar 20 08:58:56 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:58:56 -0500 Subject: HW: Zones Message-ID: It is very interesting to hear that Zones is not well liked. I think that tracks 2 and 3 are very special - Dangerous Visions and Running Through the Back Brain. Chris From tclark at PETRONET.NET Tue Mar 20 09:07:59 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:07:59 -0600 Subject: HW: Zones Message-ID: I agree....those are about the only two songs on the album that make it worthwhile getting, IMO....though Moorcocks vocals make me want to cringe towards the end of Back Brain.....(that is MM, innit?) Chris Raymond wrote: > It is very interesting to hear that Zones is not well liked. I think > that tracks 2 and 3 are very special - Dangerous Visions and Running > Through the Back Brain. > Chris From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Mar 20 09:16:06 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:16:06 -0600 Subject: HW: Zones/ SECONDED/THIRDED/FOURTHED In-Reply-To: <3AB76220.1FC1F475@tiac.net> Message-ID: My reaction to Chris R's comment:SECONDED/THIRDED/FOURTHED t is very interesting to hear that Zones is not well liked. I think that tracks 2 and 3 are very special - Dangerous Visions and Running Through the Back Brain. Chris From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Mar 20 09:25:32 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:25:32 -0600 Subject: HW: Zones/ FIFTHED/SIXTHED/SEVENTHED In-Reply-To: Message-ID: the whole album is a mindblower (twink? frond? m. eye?)....anyway.....ESPECIALLY THE MOORCOCK additions..... in a nice way....I say.... drop acid in the morning... From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Mar 20 09:28:40 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:28:40 +0800 Subject: OFF: Ozzy & Kim Message-ID: Hi there Can anyone tell me the name of the rather dreadful song Ozzy Ozbourne recorded with Kim Basinger, & who it's credited to? And on another similar concept, what about a list of suprizing collaborations that have been recorded? William From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Mar 20 09:18:02 2001 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:18:02 -0000 Subject: where's the meet b4 Croydon? Message-ID: Alright cadets?Yad here to tell you I was talking to HUW on Sunday and he says he was down in Devon with Capt.Dave!(rehursing)I hope he plays with the band as he really is on top form (as he showed on Sunday in West Ken.)and should be forgiven for HAWKESTRA!He blew my tits off!The man is ace and my no.1 Hawks man gone Solo.His playing was the best I've seen in years and he deserves more credit for being part of the greatist ever Hawkwind line up!SO there! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Mar 20 09:25:43 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:25:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Zones In-Reply-To: <3AB76220.1FC1F475@tiac.net> Message-ID: Hi, At 14:58 20.03.2001, Chris Raymond wrote: >It is very interesting to hear that Zones is not well liked. It's in fact my least liked of all the official main releases. It's kind of too disjointed IMO and I don't really like the RCA-era stuff anyway. Furthermore the sound quality of some of the songs isn't the best. Especially the songs from London 1980 sound worse than those on "This is HW, DnP" though they were recorded at the same gig (at least on my Anagram CD). >I think that tracks 2 and 3 are very special - Dangerous Visions and Running >Through the Back Brain. ACK, they're not bad, but not stand-out HW-songs. BTW, has anyone here a pic of Keith Hale? He's the only Hawksperson I've never seen a pic of. (c)IAO D+R np: Simon House, "Spiral Galaxy Revisited" -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Mar 20 09:31:14 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:31:14 -0000 Subject: HW: Zones/ FIFTHED/SIXTHED/SEVENTHED Message-ID: Zones is manic............luvvit Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mike Coleman [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: 20 March 2001 14:26 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Zones/ FIFTHED/SIXTHED/SEVENTHED the whole album is a mindblower (twink? frond? m. eye?)....anyway.....ESPECIALLY THE MOORCOCK additions..... in a nice way....I say.... drop acid in the morning... *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Mar 20 09:35:32 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:35:32 +0800 Subject: A Pointless Question Message-ID: Wasn't it a Red Indian? William > Is that the one with the big ugly demon looking bloke on the front - not at > home can't check?? If it is - you're probably right. > > Sam > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Apold [mailto:mordru at FLITE.NET] > Sent: 20 March 2001 06:30 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: A Pointless Question > > > At 08:51 PM 3/15/01 EST, Joe Loehr wrote: > >Who (or is it whom?) was driving the Starship Hawkwind on the cover of Hall > >of the Mountain Grill? > > > >I hope they had insurance. > > The cover of "Space Bandits" should have the answer... > > > ============================= > "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to > be subject to the works of those mighty > among dreamers." > > - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" > > Andrew Apold > > > **************************************************************************** ******* > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > **************************************************************************** ******* > From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Tue Mar 20 09:41:00 2001 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:41:00 +0000 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: > wot? no Accept? And no Aerosmith :-( M at xine From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Mar 20 09:46:32 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:46:32 -0000 Subject: A Pointless Question Message-ID: oops - could well have been - 'Black Elk Speaks' (top track) and all that. How's about it's a Red Indian licking a Cane Toad and therefore looking a bit demonic!!!!!!!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: William Duffy [mailto:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] Sent: 20 March 2001 14:36 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: A Pointless Question Wasn't it a Red Indian? William > Is that the one with the big ugly demon looking bloke on the front - not at > home can't check?? If it is - you're probably right. > > Sam > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Apold [mailto:mordru at FLITE.NET] > Sent: 20 March 2001 06:30 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: A Pointless Question > > > At 08:51 PM 3/15/01 EST, Joe Loehr wrote: > >Who (or is it whom?) was driving the Starship Hawkwind on the cover of Hall > >of the Mountain Grill? > > > >I hope they had insurance. > > The cover of "Space Bandits" should have the answer... > > > ============================= > "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to > be subject to the works of those mighty > among dreamers." > > - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" > > Andrew Apold > > > **************************************************************************** ******* > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > **************************************************************************** ******* > *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Mar 20 09:53:16 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:53:16 -0600 Subject: HW:little smidget more/re ZONES In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ther real reason I got excited about Chris Raymond's statement, is that it echoed my own thoughts EXACTLY, that I have had OVER AND OVER, when I see that LP get shagged....... TO ME, it is Keith Hales(sp?, right musicnaut?) vocals, that make these hawktracks QUITE UNIQUE, not only ASS KICKINGLY GOOD, but very eerily emotional, in a Brockish quality level, but yet different......THESE are what make this special!!!! I wish there was 45" 7 inch singles with Keith from this LP for me to fight over.......(other fans) and lets not forget that GORGEOUS LP jacket....perfect hawkwind artwork... OK..,,,,, standby mode: REACTIVATED mc From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Mar 20 09:52:22 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:52:22 +0100 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, At 15:41 20.03.2001, Maxine Wesley wrote: >And no Aerosmith :-( Wahhhhhhhhhh hh h h . *running away in agony* *blocking his ears* (c)IAO D+SCNR From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Mar 20 09:59:43 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:59:43 -0600 Subject: HW:Woops! Zones In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Woops,,,,that would be just one track...right??? so it's Hail! ----------- Hayle/Moorcock beye/ From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Tue Mar 20 10:26:55 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:26:55 EST Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Ah...Sam, youve forgotten that they split and reformed as zarozinias zygote slug army !! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 20 10:42:31 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 02:12:31 +1030 Subject: HW: Zones Message-ID: Zones is cool - nothing wrong with that little gem o' mine! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Raymond To: Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:28 AM Subject: HW: Zones > It is very interesting to hear that Zones is not well liked. I think > that tracks 2 and 3 are very special - Dangerous Visions and Running > Through the Back Brain. > Chris From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 20 10:44:04 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 02:14:04 +1030 Subject: HW: Zones/ FIFTHED/SIXTHED/SEVENTHED Message-ID: If I had any acid I'd prefer to have it at dusk nudge nudge - wink wink - say no more - SAY NO MORE Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:55 AM Subject: Re: HW: Zones/ FIFTHED/SIXTHED/SEVENTHED > the whole album is a mindblower (twink? frond? m. > eye?)....anyway.....ESPECIALLY THE MOORCOCK additions..... > > > in a nice way....I say.... > > > drop acid in the morning... From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Mar 20 10:58:58 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:58:58 -0600 Subject: HW: Zones/ but then you couldn't In-Reply-To: <002801c0b154$985ee920$54cb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: RUN THROUGH THE BACK BRAIN IN THE MORNING!!!! (and it's important coded information) as fer meself....as you can tell ...had plenty, but jist supposin, I did some today, I'd wait till sundown....(actually, after midnight,...NO LOUD STEREO though....) Thanks for the pic of the dogs arse michael, ...I still await feedback from my friends that got victimized.... m c anti-migraine vessel deconstricter....25 From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Mar 20 11:22:26 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:22:26 -0600 Subject: BOOTLEGS,,,public statement #9 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jim Collins sells 'em!!!! GO GET 'EM!!!!! (hahahahahah_) IT's A JOKE!!!! and I AM Laughing!!!!! so Jim...your STILL DIRECTING BOOTLEG REQUESTS to me.......you know I'm the true Spawn of SATAN!!! what am I to do with you???.....lucky I love you and Carol.... so here's the deal..... back when I found out it was a BIG NO NO, before I knew better, I had a few, and I IMMEDIATELY SHELVED the remaining ones where they have remained to this day........ I have a couple vinyls of ASSASSINS OF ALLAH, and CYBERSPACE CONSPIRACY....I think I may have a couple "Live St Albans" CD's buried deep... These I would trade with anything I don't have, or If someone could make Dave or Rik RXX, an actual friend of mine...give 'em to ya..... They DID cost me.... I've been frightened of them all this time...... Mike Coleman PS,,,Need help reaching Capt Rizz...........RIK RIK RIK........... please at least pop in with some clever BS... peace...otherwise I have to go trip...over a rock..... From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Mar 20 11:21:55 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:21:55 -0600 Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? In-Reply-To: <00db01c0b0dc$f7ffbd00$599cbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: :Subject: Re: HW:Space rock...What it is ? : :no - count me out unless you want the discussion group answer to 'War And :Peace' - I think it would be kinder to the rest of you if I passed on this :one........... :Andy Garibaldi. [snip query of "what's space rock?"] Andy -- I'd be fairly interested in your response. I've had nil time to contribute anything of late, but I still enjoy reading stuff ;-) Arin (mmm, space rock & peace) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Mar 20 10:27:16 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:27:16 EDT Subject: BOOTLEGS,,,public statement #9 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 20 Mar 2001, at 10:22, Mike Coleman wrote: > so here's the deal..... > > back when I found out it was a BIG NO NO, before I knew better, I had > a few, and I IMMEDIATELY SHELVED the remaining ones where they have > remained to this day........ > For your pennance, say ten hail marys, and go and sin no more... theo From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 11:31:13 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:31:13 -0000 Subject: HW: Zones/ FIFTHED/SIXTHED/SEVENTHED Message-ID: Acid.........take one tab three times a day after meals. If after two weeks reality persists increase dosage accordingly. THERE ARE NO BAD HAWKWIND ALBUMS ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: 20 March 2001 14:25 Subject: Re: HW: Zones/ FIFTHED/SIXTHED/SEVENTHED > the whole album is a mindblower (twink? frond? m. > eye?)....anyway.....ESPECIALLY THE MOORCOCK additions..... > > > in a nice way....I say.... > > > drop acid in the morning... > > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Mar 20 12:50:08 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:50:08 -0000 Subject: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble Message-ID: Ah yes 'lambent flame', famously described as Jimi Hendrix being dragged backwards through a hedge on a bad hair day. Well thats the music press for you lol. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Guizar" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 3:28 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble > From: "K Henderson" > > > FYI...interesting news - I'd been looking for this for quite awhile - glad > I > > didn't find a crappy vinyl copy before I read this. :) > > > > THE BLACK SUN ENSEMBLE - S/T - Australia's Camera Obscura label has > > finally made us very happy by reissuing the first LP by this Arizona > > band led by some of the most utterly indescribable and magic guitar > > playing I've ever encountered. Note that there is another self-titled > > BSE album that some think was a bigger label reissue of this one but > > that is a completely different record. This was pressed by the band in > > very small numbers, discovered by psych collectors and hidden away in > > collections around the world. The sound has a certain middle eastern > > sort of Al Bassim vibe in places but where Bassim moves in jazz > > directions this moves into the vast open spaces of the desert. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Now, does anybody know about this other self-titled BSE disc? I have (or > > have heard) three studio albums (including the 2000 release) and a live CD > > (that seems like it might be kinda rare as well). So is the complete BSE > > (perhaps an unfortunate abbreviation) discography total six > full-length-type > > releases? > > Are they talking about their first lp Called "First LP"? Looks like the > same band > members playing on both. All I have is Lambent Flame and Elemental Forces > (and > it's been a while since I listened to them - have to give them a spin soon). > > Jerry > From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Tue Mar 20 12:55:15 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:55:15 -0000 Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? Message-ID: To me it's the psychedelic nature of the music- music that spends a lot of time speaking directly to the backbrain- together with the vocal or conceptual obsession with inner and outer space. Mark From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Mar 20 13:15:18 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:15:18 EST Subject: HW: Daniel Lanois Message-ID: In a message dated 3/20/01 8:40:51 AM, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: << ob HW> How about a full-blown spacey/R&B horn section for the next incarnation of HW? Sort of Spacerock meets Chicago's "25 or 6 to 4." OK, forget I mentioned it. ;-) == mentioned _what_? heh. "<>" From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 11:55:18 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:55:18 +0000 Subject: naked hawks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Iain Ferguson writes >I interviewed the band a number of years ago and asked them about it but none >could rememebr what happened I had a photograph, I think in Classic Rock, years ago of Bob strutting his funky naked stuff in Richmond Park. That would have been 71, maybe 72. They haven't had a festival since! -- Jon From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Mar 20 13:35:15 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:35:15 -0500 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:44:05 EST, Al Ogilvy wrote: >> cant wait till we start on Z !!! > >Can I get last as well as first with ZZEBRA (OK, depending on sort sequence >I may get beaten by ZZ Top...) > >Am I getting obsessive/excessively obscure here?.... No, I've got an old Zzebra LP....from my obsessive Deep Purple family tree (twice- or thrice-removed) daze. John McCoy and Liam Genockey I think were the connection in this case (to Gillan), right? Grakkl (FAA) Zao (France...there's a new Zao touring these days) Zarathustra (Germany...one of the two) Zauner, Stefan Zebra Zendik Orgaztra/Tribe Band Zephyr (hey, another Deep Purple connection) Zone Six Zyma (Germany, not to be confused with the beverage or a Russian winter) Zzebra ZZ Top That wasn't hard (I didn't even need Zager & Evans)...who can do 'X' now? From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Tue Mar 20 14:18:11 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:18:11 -0500 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Al Ogilvy wrote: > Ok...How about: > > Alquin > Automatic man > > Please own up...some of these names are made up arent they ? I have albums by both of those bands. (-8 John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 14:41:49 2001 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (blueskin69) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:41:49 +0000 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: Track list for the misspress is as follows : Dreamers Earth Breath You Burn Me Up The Right Way Sex Dreams Damage of Life To Be or Not Kauai Earth Calling The Starkness of the Capsule Behind the Face Spacebrock Space Pilots 1st Landing The Journey Cheers. Gordon. "Captain Bl at ck" wrote: > Does anyone have a track listing for the mispress? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: blueskin69 > To: > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:52 PM > Subject: Re: spacebrock > > > Hi Alissa > > > > The full track list for the correct Spacebrock CD is as follows : > > LIFE FORM > > SOME PEOPLE NEVER DIE > > DREAMERS > > EARTH BREATH > > YOU BURN ME UP > > THE RIGHT WAY > > SEX DREAMS > > TO BE OR NOT > > KAUAI > > EARTH CALLING > > STARKNESS OF THE CAPSULE > > BEHIND THE FACE > > SPACEBROCK > > SPACE PILOTS > > 1st LANDING > > THE JOURNEY > > DO YOU WANT THIS BODY > > > > Hope that helps. > > Cheers. > > > > Gordon. > > > > Alissa wrote: > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > I need help on Spacebrock. > > > > > > What is the tracklisting on the correct cd (not the one with missing > > > tracks)? > > > > > > thanks, > > > Alissa From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Mar 20 15:31:58 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:31:58 -0500 Subject: OFF: Ozzy & Kim Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:28:40 +0800, William Duffy wrote: >... what about a list of suprizing collaborations that have been >recorded? It would have to include ... Lemmy & Wendy O. Williams "Stand By Your Man" and, of course ... Hawkwind (Richard Chadwick) & Samatha Fox "Gimme Shelter" Plus either the Dictators (Adny Shernoff & Hansome Dick Manitoba) or Tiny Tim (with himself!) doing "I Got You, Babe". -Doug ceres at sirius.com From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Tue Mar 20 15:30:14 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:30:14 +0000 Subject: HW: Zones/ FIFTHED/SIXTHED/SEVENTHED In-Reply-To: <000201c0b15b$c4ea3ec0$0854883e@e6o4t3> Message-ID: At 16.31 +0000 20.3.2001, Cerberus wrote: >THERE ARE NO BAD HAWKWIND ALBUMS Must be some imposters playing on the bad albums I have credited to Hawkwind then ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 15:39:51 2001 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (blueskin69) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:39:51 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind & Friends compilation Message-ID: Here's one for you all, what would be your choice of tracks for a Hawkwind & Friends compilation tape. Here's one i've just done for a friend : side 1 Prophecy Watching the Grass Grow - Nik Turner / Prophets of Time Raping Robots in the Street - Dave Brock Lord of Light ( live ) - Hawkwind / Love in Space single Kingdom of Reality Energise - Starfield / Return to Earth Lunar sea - Spiral Realms / Solarwind Voice Inside my Head ( live ) - Hawkwind / Bonus track on Chronicles CD Damage of Life - Dave Brock ( Hawkwind ) / Spacebrock side 2 Working down a diamond mine ( live ) - Robert Calvert / Queen Elizabeth Hall Heading : Cygnus X-1 - Harvey Bainbridge / Intersteller Chaos Earthed to the Ground - Dave Brock / Earthed to the Ground Just Fucking do it - Star Nation / Star Nation Terror Mystica - Hawkwind Blue Skin - Spacehead / Escape Velocity " Preview " Nebula - Alan Davey / Captured Rotation Cheers Gordon From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Mar 20 15:43:02 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:43:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: Ozzy & Kim Message-ID: >On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:28:40 +0800, William Duffy wrote: >>... what about a list of suprizing collaborations that have been >>recorded? > >It would have to include ... > >Lemmy & Wendy O. Williams "Stand By Your Man" >Hawkwind (Richard Chadwick) & Samatha Fox "Gimme Shelter" > >Plus either the Dictators (Adny Shernoff & Hansome Dick Manitoba) or Tiny >Tim (with himself!) doing "I Got You, Babe". I have an Andrew Lloyd-Webber album with a whole slew of classic British rockers, like Gary Moore, Rod Argent, and Jon Hiseman (Colosseum). I've completely forgotten what it's like. And didn't Lemmy just do an album with the guys from Stray Cats? Tho' I guess that's not such a surprising thing after all. Grakkl (FAA) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Mar 20 15:59:33 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:59:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble Message-ID: Hmmm ... I was in the middle of replying to this post yesterday afternoon when the rolling blackout hit ... BTW this is an utterly brilliant album. Anyone into atmospheric psychedelic guitar work or spacious "desert" sounds absolutely NEEDS this album. Much credit goes to Camera Obscura Records in Australia (Tony IS sending promo copies to AI these days, Keith?) for fulfilling this public service. On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:49:07 -0500, K Henderson wrote: >FYI...interesting news - I'd been looking for this for quite awhile - >glad I didn't find a crappy vinyl copy before I read this. :) Actually, there are apparently a couple songs on the vinyl version for which the master tapes were lost, so they aren't on the CD (which replaces them with, I believe, a couple tracks from the band's cassette releases around the same time as the first LP). I'm not positive, since I haven't picked up this reissue yet (but I played a track on KFJC last week). >THE BLACK SUN ENSEMBLE - S/T - Australia's Camera Obscura label has >finally made us very happy by reissuing the first LP by this Arizona >band led by some of the most utterly indescribable and magic guitar >playing I've ever encountered. Note that there is another self-titled >BSE album that some think was a bigger label reissue of this one but >that is a completely different record. Correct. The second self-titled album was BSE's first release on Reckless, followed by 'Lambent Flame' and ... uh ...(I think) the one with the carp on it. The s/t album on Reckless sounds much closer to this first one (they're the only two that are all-instrumental IIRC) than their subsequent albums do. >Now, does anybody know about this other self-titled BSE disc? I have (or >have heard) three studio albums (including the 2000 release) and a live CD >(that seems like it might be kinda rare as well). So is the complete BSE >(perhaps an unfortunate abbreviation) discography total six full-length- >type releases? I believe that is correct, since there's been the more recent studio album on Camera Obscura and the live one. Again, this is a GREAT album! If the description sounds at all appealing, you definitely want to pick up a copy ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 20 14:39:47 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:39:47 -0000 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: o ye of little faith - not been round the block long enough, I suspect. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Ogilvy" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:41 AM Subject: Re: HW:top 10 beginning with A > Ok...How about: > > Alquin > Automatic man > > Please own up...some of these names are made up arent they ? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 20 14:40:31 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:40:31 -0000 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with Z Message-ID: Zorch Zen Guitar Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Ogilvy" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:44 AM Subject: Re: HW:top 10 beginning with A > cant wait till we start on Z !!! From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 20 14:46:06 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:46:06 -0000 Subject: HW: Daniel Lanois Message-ID: of course that brings us right back to Magma. Magma? Space-rock? hardly, but when they get the electric bass, drums, keys and horns going on the new live version of 'Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh' on the new triple, that rocks alright - so maybe for Hawkwind, in their parallel universe, that's not so far-fethched after all. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 1:43 PM Subject: Re: HW: Daniel Lanois > ob HW> How about a full-blown spacey/R&B horn section for the next > incarnation of HW? Sort of Spacerock meets Chicago's "25 or 6 to 4." OK, > forget I mentioned it. ;-) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 20 16:49:48 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:49:48 -0000 Subject: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble Message-ID: The very first album was on Reckless Records as vinyl and this is the cD of it but with two tracks of the original vinyl missing as they have 'lost' them and two previously unreleased tracks in place, so collectors may still want the vinyl after all. They went under the name of Black Sun Legion later on and apart from Elemental Forces and Lambent Flame, did an album Sky Pilot as Black Sun Legion and then Psych Master El as Black Sun Legion and these as far as I know are the five albums. A 12" single by Black Sun Project has nothing to do with this band whatsoever. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Guizar" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 3:28 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble > From: "K Henderson" > > > FYI...interesting news - I'd been looking for this for quite awhile - glad > I > > didn't find a crappy vinyl copy before I read this. :) > > > > THE BLACK SUN ENSEMBLE - S/T - Australia's Camera Obscura label has > > finally made us very happy by reissuing the first LP by this Arizona > > band led by some of the most utterly indescribable and magic guitar > > playing I've ever encountered. Note that there is another self-titled > > BSE album that some think was a bigger label reissue of this one but > > that is a completely different record. This was pressed by the band in > > very small numbers, discovered by psych collectors and hidden away in > > collections around the world. The sound has a certain middle eastern > > sort of Al Bassim vibe in places but where Bassim moves in jazz > > directions this moves into the vast open spaces of the desert. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Now, does anybody know about this other self-titled BSE disc? I have (or > > have heard) three studio albums (including the 2000 release) and a live CD > > (that seems like it might be kinda rare as well). So is the complete BSE > > (perhaps an unfortunate abbreviation) discography total six > full-length-type > > releases? > > Are they talking about their first lp Called "First LP"? Looks like the > same band > members playing on both. All I have is Lambent Flame and Elemental Forces > (and > it's been a while since I listened to them - have to give them a spin soon). > > Jerry From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 20 16:52:53 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:52:53 -0000 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: christ - my night to dominate tonight - according to our database the fist self-titled album is still available as a USA import on the Subterranean CD label and describes them as 'a noisier version of Lush' so if that's true, then can't be bad!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "John H. McCartney" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 11:16 PM Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A > Well, haven't seen this one go by yet: > > Angel'in Heavy Syrup > > I just wish that all their releases were available on cd, > I only have III. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 20 17:04:51 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:04:51 -0000 Subject: HW: OFF: Top everything Message-ID: Yeh - I can relate to that but I go even further out - I suppose to many I have what may be termed a 'dream job' - I review CD's for the CDS catalogues (among other things - if I did that all day every day I'd be deaf as a post by now) but it's only a 'dream job' if you have a genuine musical taste that is wider than even Keith's here. One of the most asked questions about the ten or so catalogues for which I do the reviews is 'well, they're all good reviews - of course you have to sell the things so you can't surely genuinely like everything can you?'.......to which the answer is 'yes I darned well can' and to this day from my point of view as chief but not sole reviewer, it only goes into a catalogue if I like it and that's the only criteria I use. So, for those who want the job, as long as you can extol the virtues of Alien Dreaming, Dar Williams, Devin Townsend, Ian Boddy, Glasshammer (not the prog band), Judie Tzuke, Swag, Tori Amos, Circle and Faust in one day then there's hope for you yet. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 5:39 PM Subject: HW: OFF: Top everything > My listening profile (as of today).... > Hawkwind, 'trad. space rock', free festy bands - 20% > Electronic Post-rock - 15% ('cause it's a relatively new part of my collection') > Krautrock - 10% > Stoner rock - 10% > Classic rock - 10% > Heavy Metal - 10% > Progressive - 10% > Shoegazer/Dream-space - 5% > Alternative - 5% > Folk, Pop, Reggae, Jazz, Jam - 5% From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 20 17:08:48 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:08:48 -0000 Subject: OFF: Farflung Message-ID: anyone fed up with hearing from me tonight yet? Actually, coincidentally, I checked with Freak Emporium today (yes, we do speak to each other!!!) and they don't have any 'Belief Module' left either - but then I'd love to get myy hands on the guy from Bad Acid mag who released this 'coz he ripped me off of thirty quid and then diappeared. I think the stocks of the album had pretty well run out by this time anyway ansd he won;t be doing any more so I reckon this is now officially a 'collectors item', but did the band see the due royalties - I'd love to know. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 11:19 PM Subject: OFF: Farflung > On The Belief Module... > > Of course, we all predicted that this one would become rare quite quickly, > due to the fact that the Bad Acid zine/label lived such a short life. But > then I think Andy Gee said quite a few were laying around from the original > pressing. Anybody know where they all went? > > I think I got mine from meteorcity.com, but I just checked there (well, > stonerrock.com now is where the store is currently residing) and it's not > listed any longer. > > www.nrgmusic.com was one place that lists it, but I remember that they were > one of those places that I ordered a disc from (Korai Orom it was) and it > was backordered for like six years. :) I think the order may still be > pending actually. By the time they get it in stock, the price will be > really good...what with decades of inflation and all. :) > > Actually, GEMM.com lists their fill rate at 66%, so perhaps a chance it > might be had from them. > > Grakkl (FAA) > > P.S. The Myth of Solid Ground...ever released? (other than the initial run > of 30 CD-Rs) Does Big Jesus (the supposed label of choice) have any web > presence? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 20 17:30:35 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:30:35 -0000 Subject: HW-Ghost Of Dave Anderson Message-ID: OK _ for my final one tonight let me tell you about a new release and reopen a debate in the process. Just out on DTK Metronome is a Hawkwind album called 'The Legends Collection', part of a series that includes Santana, Jimi Hendrix, Sex Gang Children, Elvis Presley (honest- no word of a lie) and loads more. The Hawk album is a double CD and features: Gaga/In The Egg/Orgone Accumulator/Wage War/Urban Guerilla/Master Of The Universe/Welcome To The Future/Sonic Attack/Silvere Machine/Hurry On Sundown/Space/Accumulator/Upside-Down Sonic Attack/Time We Left/Ten Seconds Of Forever/Brainstorm/Seven-By-Seven/Master of The Universe/Welcome To The Future written exactly as listed in the promo blurb we received. Best bit too is the price - a staggeringly low.....?4.49!!! Now this is clearly more DA stuff and I would imagine the group won't see a bean from it - at that price it's a wonder anyone will see anything from it. Now I know there will be some of you out there who feel they have to have it, and I know I will be ordered to stock it, but I wonder if everyone boycotted the darned thing and stuck two cheesy fingers up to DA and the crew to say 'enough is enough', would this make any difference or what - how much longer can this stuff get recycled and the band see nothing back? I would be happy if I didn't sell a single copy to be honest, but when you're in music retail you're there for the customer, and maybe you think I am talking tripe in this case, anyway. What do you think??? Andy Garibaldi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Mar 20 17:42:14 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:42:14 -0500 Subject: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:49:48 -0000, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >The very first album was on Reckless Records as vinyl and >this is the cD of it BZZZZT! Nope. The first album and the self-titled album on Reckless are similar, but are definitely NOT the same album! The "real" first album, as reissued on Camera Obscura is definitely superior. >but with two tracks of the original vinyl missing as they have 'lost' >them and two previously unreleased tracks in place, so collectors may still >want the vinyl after all. Yes, the original private press vinyl (extremely rare), NOT the one on Reckless (which can't be all that rare). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Mar 20 16:44:46 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:44:46 EDT Subject: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble In-Reply-To: <200103202242.RAA11408@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 20 Mar 2001, at 17:42, Douglas Pearson wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:49:48 -0000, ANDREW GARIBALDI > wrote: > >The very first album was on Reckless Records as vinyl and > >this is the cD of it > > BZZZZT! Nope. The first album and the self-titled album on Reckless > are similar, but are definitely NOT the same album! The "real" first > album, as reissued on Camera Obscura is definitely superior. > Does anyone know if BSE material is avail. in the US? theo From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Tue Mar 20 17:49:33 2001 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:49:33 +1100 Subject: HW: Zones Message-ID: BTW, has anyone here a pic of Keith Hale? He's the only Hawksperson I've never seen a pic of. There was one on the backcovers of one of the early hawkfans - maybe No 5. Perhaps a Toyah related site will have something on him - he co-wrote "it's a mystery" I believe. regards Marty From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Mar 20 17:56:14 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:56:14 -0500 Subject: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble Message-ID: Theo asked.... >On 20 Mar 2001, at 17:42, Douglas Pearson wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:49:48 -0000, ANDREW GARIBALDI >> wrote: >> >The very first album was on Reckless Records as vinyl and >> >this is the cD of it >> >> BZZZZT! Nope. The first album and the self-titled album on Reckless >> are similar, but are definitely NOT the same album! The "real" first >> album, as reissued on Camera Obscura is definitely superior. >> >Does anyone know if BSE material is avail. in the US? No, all British beef has been banned from the US. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Oh, wait, not *that* BSE. Well, considering the band is from Arizona, I should certainly think so. That said, the last two releases have been on Camera Obscura in Oz (I do hope they send promos to us....tho' Jerry would get them, not me), but then they have pretty good distribution in the US. So I would expect Sky Pilot (the 'new' one) and the two latter Reckless releases (Lambent Flame and Elemental Forces) to be pretty easily had (Reckless has presence in both the UK and US - Chicago and/or San Fran?). I see them in used outlets, and in online lists quite regularly. I have 'sold' some at Strange Daze in the past. Shall I look out for these again? On the other hand, I have never seen either of the self-titled releases, and the only copy of the live CD I've seen is the one I bought. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 20 18:33:54 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:33:54 -0000 Subject: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble Message-ID: tell me more - I hate not having the whole story, Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Jackson" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:44 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble > On 20 Mar 2001, at 17:42, Douglas Pearson wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:49:48 -0000, ANDREW GARIBALDI > > wrote: > > >The very first album was on Reckless Records as vinyl and > > >this is the cD of it > > > > BZZZZT! Nope. The first album and the self-titled album on Reckless > > are similar, but are definitely NOT the same album! The "real" first > > album, as reissued on Camera Obscura is definitely superior. > > > > Does anyone know if BSE material is avail. in the US? > > theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Mar 20 17:14:34 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:14:34 EDT Subject: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble In-Reply-To: <200103202307.SAA13950@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On 20 Mar 2001, at 17:56, K Henderson wrote: > P.S. Oh, wait, not *that* BSE. Well, considering the band is from > Arizona, I should certainly think so. That said, the last two > releases have been on Camera Obscura in Oz (I do hope they send promos > to us....tho' Jerry would get them, not me), but then they have pretty > good distribution in the US. So I would expect Sky Pilot (the 'new' > one) and the two latter Reckless releases (Lambent Flame and Elemental > Forces) to be pretty easily had Hell, you can get 'em from CD Now. Hey, Brian, how;d these guys escape you? theo From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Mar 20 18:29:32 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:29:32 -0500 Subject: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:33:54 -0000, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >tell me more - I hate not having the whole story, Well, I'm not sure I know the whole story, but thinking that the Reckless s/t album was the first BSE album is a common misconception that (hopefully) this new CD reissue will alleviate. Lots of people bought the Reckless s/t album thinking it was their debut, as they'd never seen the "real" first one due to its obscurity. The first LP (the one just reissued on Camera Obscura) was a very limited (500 copies?) private pressing that got thoroughly *raved* about by the notable publications of the day (Forced Exposure, Bucketfull of Brains [back in the Nigel Cross days], The Bob [which sorta mutated into Magnet] ... the same folks that also clued me into the early Frond LP's on Woronzow). I believe the band also did a couple of cassette releases at the time, but I'd have to check some of those old 'zines to verify the accuracy of that assertion. For whatever reason, when Reckless signed Black Sun Ensemble, instead of reissuing the debut album, they had the band *re-record* it. But of course it's not an exact re-recording and is not as good as the "real" (private press) debut. And, for whatever reason, Reckless further confused matters by making it *another* self-titled album. Reckless, the label, has not existed for many years, so all their material is technically "out-of-print", but they had fairly large production runs, so their releases are not that uncommon (although some, like the early Bevis Frond stuff, is pretty in-demand). The Reckless store in San Francisco closed shortly after Amoeba opened up down the street (anyone who's been *inside* Amoeba will understand why!); I have no idea what's up with the other stores of that name. Hope this helps clear the mystery a bit ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com P.S. Andy - CD's are going out to you today! >----- Original Message ----- >> On 20 Mar 2001, at 17:42, Douglas Pearson wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:49:48 -0000, ANDREW GARIBALDI >> > wrote: >> > >The very first album was on Reckless Records as vinyl and >> > >this is the cD of it >> > >> > BZZZZT! Nope. The first album and the self-titled album on Reckless >> > are similar, but are definitely NOT the same album! The "real" first >> > album, as reissued on Camera Obscura is definitely superior. From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Mar 20 18:38:46 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:38:46 EST Subject: A Pointless Question Message-ID: In a message dated 3/20/01 2:28:26 AM US Eastern Standard Time, samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM writes: > Is that the one with the big ugly demon looking bloke on the front - not at > home can't check?? If it is - you're probably right. > > yeah, that's the one, but I think the guy's an Indian shaman, or something. might explain it--too much peyote! Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Mar 20 18:47:19 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:47:19 EST Subject: ledge of darkness graphic novel Message-ID: She is identified as Anqet. In the book, she's the dancer for the Hawklords. Whether she was with the Hawklords, in real life, I do not know. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 19:00:10 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:00:10 -0000 Subject: HW-Ghost Of Dave Anderson Message-ID: Andy - I would have no problem at all if you didn't stock this one and told me that you weren't going to. But that could be because I know the situation I guess. I already have more than enough copies of these tracks and consider it despicable that they are still being reproduced. It's a bit like stalking really - a wierd kind of obsessive harrassment with these tracks being reissued over and over again. Very strange. No. I will not ask you to stock this one. I have no doubt that at some point in the future, I shall see it in a second hand shop and will probably pick it up then, since any money I then pay will go to no-one but the shop keeper. But if I don't I shall not lose any sleep about it! jill ---------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:30 PM Subject: Re: HW-Ghost Of Dave Anderson OK _ for my final one tonight let me tell you about a new release and reopen a debate in the process. Just out on DTK Metronome is a Hawkwind album called 'The Legends Collection', part of a series that includes Santana, Jimi Hendrix, Sex Gang Children, Elvis Presley (honest- no word of a lie) and loads more. The Hawk album is a double CD and features: Gaga/In The Egg/Orgone Accumulator/Wage War/Urban Guerilla/Master Of The Universe/Welcome To The Future/Sonic Attack/Silvere Machine/Hurry On Sundown/Space/Accumulator/Upside-Down Sonic Attack/Time We Left/Ten Seconds Of Forever/Brainstorm/Seven-By-Seven/Master of The Universe/Welcome To The Future written exactly as listed in the promo blurb we received. Best bit too is the price - a staggeringly low.....?4.49!!! Now this is clearly more DA stuff and I would imagine the group won't see a bean from it - at that price it's a wonder anyone will see anything from it. Now I know there will be some of you out there who feel they have to have it, and I know I will be ordered to stock it, but I wonder if everyone boycotted the darned thing and stuck two cheesy fingers up to DA and the crew to say 'enough is enough', would this make any difference or what - how much longer can this stuff get recycled and the band see nothing back? I would be happy if I didn't sell a single copy to be honest, but when you're in music retail you're there for the customer, and maybe you think I am talking tripe in this case, anyway. What do you think??? Andy Garibaldi From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Tue Mar 20 19:48:14 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:48:14 -0500 Subject: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble Message-ID: From: "Ted Jackson" > > BZZZZT! Nope. The first album and the self-titled album on Reckless > > are similar, but are definitely NOT the same album! The "real" first > > album, as reissued on Camera Obscura is definitely superior. > > > > Does anyone know if BSE material is avail. in the US? CDNow has the Camera Obscura release listed at $14.49 From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Mar 20 20:00:41 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:00:41 -0500 Subject: OFF: Top 10 beginning with G Message-ID: Grakkl (FAA) P.S. I'd actually moved out of the house before I even knew what Terrapin Station referred to...not that I hadn't heard enough Dead by then to make me vomit. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ better get that gag reflex checked into.... ") My top ten non-HW bands that begin with G are: Grateful Dead Grateful Dead Grateful Dead Grateful Dead Grateful Dead Grateful Dead Grateful Dead Grateful Dead Grateful Dead Grateful Dead The bus came by..... ....and I got on.....That's where it all began There was Cowboy Neal at the wheel..... The bus to never ever land Gotta go! "That 70's Show" is coming on np: ORB Live '93 Darrin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Mar 20 20:08:17 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:08:17 -0600 Subject: HW: offish/me and Jim/cowboy boot-legs In-Reply-To: <01d001c0b196$3b0ea480$2f18bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: reflecting.....this post must be done,,,,, my CLOSE FRIEND JIM COLLINS might have freaked out on me with earlier post.... DON'T JIM DON'T!!!! he is a family member to us.... it's just a running joke from back in the days when rumours were everywhere, and no-one could trust no-one... he's known about my LP stash, and has "occasionally" had a few ask if I had any non-descript items to turn loose...(knowing it was then my problem...and he knows I am big enough boy to handle it...theoretically, anyway) FOR GOD SAKES..... "ain't none of us going against the King, not against the wind"..... So that off todays Colemanoia, would somebody do a Texas tour so we can get our beloved Jim Collins back??? WE MISS HIM !!! If you could just send Steve Pond and the "SUPERJUDGE",,,,I think that would get it.... your BOCL air is clear..... I must rest... the nervy one From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 20 21:39:35 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:09:35 +1030 Subject: HW: Zones/ FIFTHED/SIXTHED/SEVENTHED Message-ID: > Acid.........take one tab three times a day after meals. If after two weeks > reality persists increase dosage accordingly. > > > THERE ARE NO BAD HAWKWIND ALBUMS got that straight! From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Mar 21 00:30:02 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:30:02 -0500 Subject: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <005401c0acd9$52b44340$d732883e@jds>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 10:51:34PM -0000 Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 10:51:34PM -0000, Jill Strobridge wrote: > It's just as well Glastonbury has already been cancelled this year. > My guess is that it would have been very unlikely to go ahead if > that had originally been the intention. In fact I hope Michael > Eavis's cows are ok! I was just checking the web site. Glastonbury proper is *just* outside one of the "infected areas" ... for now ... so I suspect you're right. Stonehenge is closed, and it's rather farther from any infected areas. > A show in London will be no risk at all but Devon has major problems > just now. I don't know if Dave (Hawkwind) will be affected by > this? Anyone? Honiton's not listed at the moment, but it's less than 10 miles from an infected area. And of course I have no idea where their place is in relation to the village. Dave, Kris: I don't know whether you folks keep livestock. If you do, my fingers are crossed! FYI, here's the British Agriculture Ministry's Foot & Mouth "hub" page: http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/diseases/fmd/default.htm Their information on "infected areas" (ie. areas so declared by the Ministry -- they don't use the word "quarantine", but that's pretty much the gist of it): http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/diseases/fmd/areas.htm -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Wed Mar 21 03:01:46 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:01:46 -0000 Subject: HW-Ghost Of Dave Anderson Message-ID: Down with that Andy - 110%. Screw the Capitalists!!!!! (Sorry - bit over-zealous there - I'll calm down again) Sam -----Original Message----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI [mailto:andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM] Sent: 20 March 2001 22:31 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW-Ghost Of Dave Anderson OK _ for my final one tonight let me tell you about a new release and reopen a debate in the process. Just out on DTK Metronome is a Hawkwind album called 'The Legends Collection', part of a series that includes Santana, Jimi Hendrix, Sex Gang Children, Elvis Presley (honest- no word of a lie) and loads more. The Hawk album is a double CD and features: Gaga/In The Egg/Orgone Accumulator/Wage War/Urban Guerilla/Master Of The Universe/Welcome To The Future/Sonic Attack/Silvere Machine/Hurry On Sundown/Space/Accumulator/Upside-Down Sonic Attack/Time We Left/Ten Seconds Of Forever/Brainstorm/Seven-By-Seven/Master of The Universe/Welcome To The Future written exactly as listed in the promo blurb we received. Best bit too is the price - a staggeringly low.....?4.49!!! Now this is clearly more DA stuff and I would imagine the group won't see a bean from it - at that price it's a wonder anyone will see anything from it. Now I know there will be some of you out there who feel they have to have it, and I know I will be ordered to stock it, but I wonder if everyone boycotted the darned thing and stuck two cheesy fingers up to DA and the crew to say 'enough is enough', would this make any difference or what - how much longer can this stuff get recycled and the band see nothing back? I would be happy if I didn't sell a single copy to be honest, but when you're in music retail you're there for the customer, and maybe you think I am talking tripe in this case, anyway. What do you think??? Andy Garibaldi *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Tue Mar 20 14:46:27 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:46:27 -0000 Subject: Letters on Castle reissue spines Message-ID: >And on another question regarding the remasters. I have Space Bandits & >Xenon Codex. They both have letters from the band's name on each spine. >Can >someone give a full list of what CD's have which letters on the spines, so >that we no which ones we need to feel the gaps? > >William HA Live '79 W Levitation K Xenon Codex W Space Bandits IN Palace Springs D It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous And a miniature of the front cover on Electric Teepee Mark From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Tue Mar 20 14:54:52 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:54:52 -0000 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: If anyone wants to meet before the Croydon gig on Sunday- As Stuart Hamilton suggested, I think The George (17-21 George St, Croydon- runs between the Drummond shopping centre and East Croydon Station, try www.multimap.com for a map, and I believe it's a Wetherspoons pub) is a good place. I guess I'll be there from 6.30ish. I don't know if anyone can suggest a good way of identifying each other. I don't have a HW T shirt but I'm 6'2" with brown-blond hair, I'll be with two guys of 6' and 5'11" both black haired, neither wearing HW T shirts, but all three of us will be wearing glasses. And drinking from them. Can't wait, Mark From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Mar 21 04:26:17 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 04:26:17 -0500 Subject: OFF: Ozzy and Kim Basinger Message-ID: That would be "Shake Your Head" by Was Not Was released in 1992, was a minor hit single in the UK. See you in the Grorge on Sunday. Stuart From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Wed Mar 21 04:34:12 2001 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:34:12 +0000 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: > At 15:41 20.03.2001, Maxine Wesley wrote: > > >And no Aerosmith :-( > > Wahhhhhhhhhh hh h h . Heh that's one of my favourite tracks...... > *running away in agony* > *blocking his ears* Your response however is inappropriate in case of sonic attack........ M at xine From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Mar 21 07:12:29 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:12:29 -0000 Subject: HW: Amon Duul II Live In London for sale Message-ID: Hi Anyone interested in a UA vinyl copy of Amon Duul II live? Full details on request. It's got that great Rodney Matthews sleeve on a helmeted spider/locust/scorpion rampaging through London. Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's rather good. > And didn't Lemmy just do an album with the guys from Stray Cats? Tho' I > guess that's not such a surprising thing after all. > He also did a record with the Nolan Sisters. William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Mar 21 10:07:10 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:07:10 +0800 Subject: OFF: Top 10 beginning with G Message-ID: Gong Gong Maison Golden Earring Gillan Genesis (before they became three) Goodies And there's probably more William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrin McKeehen" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:00 AM Subject: OFF: Top 10 beginning with G > Grakkl (FAA) > > P.S. I'd actually moved out of the house before I even knew what Terrapin > Station referred to...not that I hadn't heard enough Dead by then to make me > vomit. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > better get that gag reflex checked into.... ") > > My top ten non-HW bands that begin with G are: > > Grateful Dead > Grateful Dead > Grateful Dead > Grateful Dead > Grateful Dead > Grateful Dead > Grateful Dead > Grateful Dead > Grateful Dead > Grateful Dead > > The bus came by..... > > ....and I got on.....That's where it all began > > There was Cowboy Neal at the wheel..... > > The bus to never ever land > > Gotta go! "That 70's Show" is coming on > > np: ORB Live '93 > > Darrin > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 21 11:00:28 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:30:28 +1030 Subject: irc Message-ID: Anyone going online soon im getting so sleeoy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/21/01 04:00pm >>> Anyone going online soon im getting so sleeoy From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Mar 21 12:06:14 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:06:14 -0600 Subject: irc Message-ID: BY the time this reaches europe,I wiil be going home from work.HAVE A GOOD DAY,STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:42 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: irc I'm here. Dunno if that's any help like, but I am here!!! Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/21/01 04:00pm >>> Anyone going online soon im getting so sleeoy From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 21 12:17:18 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:47:18 +1030 Subject: irc Message-ID: cool - lets get naked then!! ha ha Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 3:11 AM Subject: Re: irc > I'm here. > > Dunno if that's any help like, but I am here!!! > > > Layla > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/21/01 04:00pm >>> > Anyone going online soon im getting so sleeoy From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 21 12:18:21 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:48:21 +1030 Subject: irc Message-ID: WAKE UPPPPPPP!! 8>B ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 3:02 AM Subject: Re: irc Everyone is sleeping its almost noon -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:00 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: irc Anyone going online soon im getting so sleeoy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Mar 21 12:13:29 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:13:29 EDT Subject: irc In-Reply-To: <006301c0b22a$c8efc060$dccd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On 22 Mar 2001, at 3:47, Michael W Blackman wrote: > cool - lets get naked then!! > > ha ha > > Mb What a charmer! theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From christmu at EUNET.NO Wed Mar 21 13:38:27 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:38:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: Black Sorcery Message-ID: A Disease of The Mind has updated the Scenes of Black Sorcery page.Follow eyeball from http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/ . Be sure to check out the Hawkwind Electric Library. Chr. ObTape: Voivod, Hartford, CT 1987 "From 42nd Street to Washington Square, Marijuana is smoked everywhere." - Ancient Proverb of The Blasphemers of Sodom From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Wed Mar 21 13:51:47 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:51:47 +0000 Subject: OFF: Top 10 beginning with G In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Grateful Dead Well, I do quite like the Dead, but certainly on my list are: Garmarna Gas Giant The Gathering Gjallarhorn and of course Gov't Mule. With special no-weak-last-name-alphabetization award to George Thorogood :) If I were alphabetising by last name, I'd certainly include Edvard Grieg -- but of course I'm not ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From micci at SCI.FI Wed Mar 21 13:58:35 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:58:35 +0200 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: Hi! No HW yet, but 70% Amorphis. New Am Universe album is great! Others: Far East Family Band Ozric.. Dark Sun- J?? Rituaali Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Wed Mar 21 13:57:17 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:57:17 +0000 Subject: irc Message-ID: Ain't got time for all that. I get to go home in five minutes too!! >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/21/01 05:17pm >>> cool - lets get naked then!! ha ha Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 3:11 AM Subject: Re: irc > I'm here. > > Dunno if that's any help like, but I am here!!! > > > Layla > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/21/01 04:00pm >>> > Anyone going online soon im getting so sleeoy From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed Mar 21 13:59:42 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:59:42 -0800 Subject: OFF: Top 10 beginning with G Message-ID: throwing a few more into the mix - Gridnolog Gilgamesh Gentle Giant Greenslade Peter Gabriel and a joke entry: Guiffra (ow! stop that!) scorch From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Mar 21 13:00:20 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:00:20 EDT Subject: OFF: Top 10 beginning with G In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 21 Mar 2001, at 18:51, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >Grateful Dead > > Well, I do quite like the Dead, but certainly on my list are: > > Garmarna > Gas Giant > The Gathering > Gjallarhorn > and of course Gov't Mule. > Gamma... theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Mar 21 14:25:58 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:25:58 -0000 Subject: irc In-Reply-To: <3AB8A8F7.23074.14B0078@localhost> Message-ID: > > cool - lets get naked then!! > > > > ha ha > > > > Mb > > What a charmer! Well, he's an Aussie. That passes for subtle... ;)) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Mar 21 14:59:07 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:59:07 -0000 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: Well it's pretty bad up here, I work just round the corner from the main auction mart in carlisle, and next door to Maff here, it's swarming with troops, and they've trebled the size of the maff offices, the pub where that senior Government vet was getting slow handclapped is where I go for lunch. The whole area is on a downer. Our receptionist is a farmers wife, and they're one of the farms infected. If I go up to my mums which is a bit nearer the countryside you can smell the burning sheep :-( It's dire. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Siegerman" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 5:30 AM Subject: Foot & Mouth > On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 10:51:34PM -0000, Jill Strobridge wrote: > > It's just as well Glastonbury has already been cancelled this year. > > My guess is that it would have been very unlikely to go ahead if > > that had originally been the intention. In fact I hope Michael > > Eavis's cows are ok! > > I was just checking the web site. Glastonbury proper is *just* > outside one of the "infected areas" ... for now ... so I suspect > you're right. > > Stonehenge is closed, and it's rather farther from any infected > areas. > > > A show in London will be no risk at all but Devon has major problems > > just now. I don't know if Dave (Hawkwind) will be affected by > > this? Anyone? > > Honiton's not listed at the moment, but it's less than 10 miles > from an infected area. And of course I have no idea where their > place is in relation to the village. > > Dave, Kris: I don't know whether you folks keep livestock. If > you do, my fingers are crossed! > > > FYI, here's the British Agriculture Ministry's Foot & Mouth "hub" > page: > http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/diseases/fmd/default.htm > > Their information on "infected areas" (ie. areas so declared by > the Ministry -- they don't use the word "quarantine", but that's > pretty much the gist of it): > http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/diseases/fmd/areas.htm > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > necessarily a good idea. > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Mar 21 13:58:22 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:58:22 EDT Subject: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <001201c0b241$63a12f20$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: On 21 Mar 2001, at 19:59, Rich Warren wrote: > Well it's pretty bad up here, I work just round the corner from the > main auction mart in carlisle, and next door to Maff here, it's > swarming with troops, and they've trebled the size of the maff > offices, the pub where that senior Government vet was getting slow > handclapped is where I go for lunch. The whole area is on a downer. > Our receptionist is a farmers wife, and they're one of the farms > infected. > > If I go up to my mums which is a bit nearer the countryside you can > smell the burning sheep :-( > > It's dire. > We're holding our collective breath over here--and not to avoid the smell! Only good thing I can see coming from it is they've stop bullfights in Spain... theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Mar 21 15:33:33 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:33:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: Top 10 beginning with G Message-ID: Hmmm ... 1/3 Japanese bands and 1/3 blues bands ... Gaseneta Gasoline Ghost Gibson Bros. Go Commando Godz (NYC!) Gories Groundhogs Guided By Voices Gun Club -Doug ceres at sirius.com Gratuitous-equal-airtime-for-opposing-views-lyric: "Bring me the head of Jerry Garcia He plays guitar like diarreha He's dumb as a doorknob And a ton overweight That's why we call him The dreadful grate" -Iron Prostate, "Bring Me The Head Of Jerry Garcia" From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Wed Mar 21 17:02:39 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:02:39 EST Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: Mikka mentioned Far east family band.....I used to have Tenkujin (I think thats what its called) and I,ve been looking for stuff by this lot for years...Does anyone know where I can find their albums for sale on the net ? uncounted searches have produced nothing !! Please someone help !...Even any sites with info about the band would help . Thanks Alistair From ChStier at AOL.COM Wed Mar 21 17:58:41 2001 From: ChStier at AOL.COM (Chris Stier) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:58:41 EST Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Question Message-ID: Hi Folks, Here's a letter I got from a friend of mine in the UK looking for info on the works of Barney Bubbles for an exhibit he is working on. If you have a difinitive list or any other accurate info, drop me a line and I will pass it on to him. His message follows... Thanks! Chris chstier at aol.com >>>okay, whats this email about? well, i am currently researching an exhibition that i intend to put on in london of the work that barney bubbles did for hawkwind and the underground press like i.t. and friends. and work barney did for hawkwind-related projects like inner-city-unit and imperial pompadours. but only barney bubbles stuff. so the exhibition will include: album covers (inserts) singles (where the covers of them aren't re-hashes of album artwork) posters other ephemera (like promo stickers, masks, cardboard rockets etc) ads tour programmes anything that represents barneys input into the stage sets and light shows underground press artwork as i'm working with trevor hughes on this, his archive should contain alot of this stuff. however, at this stage, information is the precious commodity, not physical stuff. so i was wondering if you knew anything about what stuff barney did? the thing is, it has to be definitely accurate information. i know how busy things are for you, so don't think too hard about it. but if there is anything you know, i'd be really interseted to hear it. i have been talking to a few people in the u.k. about this, but the best strike so far was with jonathan smeeton (liquid len). he's actually in the states (near you), he gave me a call after i left a message for him at the company he works with. he's busy at the moment, but said to call him in a couple weeks. so here's hoping! well, best wishes, your friend, mike<<< From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Mar 21 18:30:05 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:30:05 -0000 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: I think we have got Nipponjin in Stock now, as well as tenkujin, but I will have to check back at the office. The phenomenal 'Parallel World' CD is deleted yet again (keeps popping up every so often) so if yuo see that, grab it, and 'Cave Down To Earth' is on CD but it's taken off a vinyl master from what I can gather, so be wary there. I always stock FEFB when I can get it. Andy G (CD Services) andygee at dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Ogilvy" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll > Mikka mentioned Far east family band.....I used to have Tenkujin (I think > thats what its called) and I,ve been looking for stuff by this lot for > years...Does anyone know where I can find their albums for sale on the net ? > uncounted searches have produced nothing !! Please someone help !...Even any > sites with info about the band would help . > Thanks > Alistair From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Mar 21 18:34:07 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:34:07 -0000 Subject: OFF: Top 10 beginning with G Message-ID: Grobschnitt Guru Guru Genf Global Noise Attack Glod Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "John H. McCartney" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Top 10 beginning with G > throwing a few more into the mix - > > Gridnolog > Gilgamesh > Gentle Giant > Greenslade > Peter Gabriel > > and a joke entry: > Guiffra > > (ow! stop that!) > > > > > scorch From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Mar 21 18:20:04 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:20:04 -0000 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Question In-Reply-To: <51.912f577.27ea8c22@aol.com> Message-ID: I don't know if this is any use to you, as I can't find a definitive list of his work, but there's some eulogies on Phil Franks' site at http://www.ibiblio.org/mal/MO/philm/friends/barney.html Apart from Hawkwind, of course, and I know you're concentrating on his HW-related stuff, he was best known for designing the Blockheads' logo (http://www.nenne.com/typography/bb1.html), and for album covers for the likes of Elvis Costello (IMPERIAL BEDROOM - http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000024FQK/o/qid=985216537/sr=2-4/0 26-9799151-6849267), Nick Lowe (JESUS OF COOL), Graham Parker (http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/8678/ac29_37.html) and Peter Hammill (http://www.sofasound.com/phcds/ph7cd.htm). Christ, even Wang Chung... http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/redirect/leaf=switch/from=sr-1106460/ta rget=buyweb_purchase/ddcn=SD-2066+4004+2 Meanwhile, while websearching, here's a Space Ritual review from Head Heritage: http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/reviews/index.php?reviews=60 -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Chris Stier > Sent: 21 March 2001 22:59 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Question > > > Hi Folks, > > Here's a letter I got from a friend of mine in the UK looking for > info on the works of Barney Bubbles for an exhibit he is working > on. If you have a difinitive list or any other accurate info, > drop me a line and I will pass it on to him. His message follows... > > Thanks! > > Chris > chstier at aol.com > > >>>okay, whats this email about? well, i am currently researching > an exhibition > that i intend to put on in london of the work that barney bubbles did for > hawkwind and the underground press like i.t. and friends. and work barney > did for hawkwind-related projects like inner-city-unit and imperial > pompadours. but only barney bubbles stuff. > > so the exhibition will include: > album covers (inserts) > singles (where the covers of them aren't re-hashes of album artwork) > posters > other ephemera (like promo stickers, masks, cardboard rockets etc) > ads > tour programmes > anything that represents barneys input into the stage sets and light shows > underground press artwork > > as i'm working with trevor hughes on this, his archive should contain alot > of this stuff. > > however, at this stage, information is the precious commodity, > not physical > stuff. so i was wondering if you knew anything about what stuff > barney did? > the thing is, it has to be definitely accurate information. > > i know how busy things are for you, so don't think too hard about > it. but if > there is anything you know, i'd be really interseted to hear it. > > i have been talking to a few people in the u.k. about this, but the best > strike so far was with jonathan smeeton (liquid len). he's actually in the > states (near you), he gave me a call after i left a message for him at the > company he works with. he's busy at the moment, but said to call him in a > couple weeks. so here's hoping! > > well, best wishes, > > your friend, > > mike<<< > > From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Mar 21 18:20:18 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:20:18 +0000 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Question In-Reply-To: <51.912f577.27ea8c22@aol.com> Message-ID: In article <51.912f577.27ea8c22 at aol.com>, Chris Stier writes >however, at this stage, information is the precious commodity, not physical >stuff. so i was wondering if you knew anything about what stuff barney did? >the thing is, it has to be definitely accurate information. don't know if this is the sort of info you're after, but it would seem that Alphonse Mucha (regarded by many as the creator of Art Nouveau) was quite a big influence - the mid 70's 'Love and Peace' poster is very similar in style to his work, and the faces of the cat-like creatures on the front of the Space Ritual are an almost exact copy of those on 'Emerald' from Mucha's 'The Four Jewels' -- David Blair From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Wed Mar 21 20:00:16 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:00:16 +0000 Subject: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <001201c0b241$63a12f20$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: Of course, I have yet to hear any good explanation of why everyone is in such a tizzy over a disease that is -- from what I understand, not that there's been much clarification -- not particularly fatal to the animals, difficult for humans to contract, and extremely mild even if humans do manage to catch it. But hey, that's the gov't for ya ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Wed Mar 21 20:01:21 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:01:21 +0000 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll In-Reply-To: <200103211858.f2LIwZo02545@vasta.saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: At 20.58 +0200 21.3.2001, Miikka Wagner wrote: >No HW yet, but 70% Amorphis. New Am Universe album is great! Has the general European release happened, or is it still Finland only? Cheers, Carl ObCD: Amorphis, _The Story_ :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Mar 21 20:38:28 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:38:28 -0500 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: As I understand it, although the disease is not *fatal* to animals, it renders them *economically* worthless (or at least less valuable - I'm not clear on the reasons for this, but I would assume that it causes the animals to "waste away" to some extent, decreasing milk production or amount of usable meat), which, to a farmer/rancher, IS essentially the same as killing it. The other factor being that it *spreads* incredibly easily (through the regular air), so that a small outbreak can easily lead to a large one, which would therefore have large-scale economic consequences. It only *affects* hoofed animals, but any animate (or, apparently, inanimate!) object can *carry* it. So the disease does carry the potential to devastate meat-based farming economies where it hits; just one more reason why we should all be vegetarians, I suppose ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:00:16 +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >Of course, I have yet to hear any good explanation of why everyone is >in such a tizzy over a disease that is -- from what I understand, not >that there's been much clarification -- not particularly fatal to the >animals, difficult for humans to contract, and extremely mild even if >humans do manage to catch it. But hey, that's the gov't for ya ... > >Cheers, >Carl From coral at APORT.RU Wed Mar 21 21:10:04 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:10:04 +0300 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: > >No HW yet, but 70% Amorphis. New Am Universe album is great! > > Has the general European release happened, or is it still Finland only? Great one! Here in Russia it's already released! Alissa From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Mar 21 22:58:12 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:58:12 EST Subject: HW: Daniel Lanois Message-ID: In a message dated 3/20/01 5:40:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > Sounds like an album I could get into, though I'm having a hard time > reconciling "ethereal" and New Orleans R&B. Maybe that's what's cool about > it though? > > Brian well, there are some pure folk/blues songs (though these are great, too), but the "ethereal folk"...well, you'll just have to hear it. His other album, though, I'm not too crazy about (can't remember the title)...naked girl on the front cover. Chuck From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 21 23:12:34 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:42:34 +1030 Subject: irc Message-ID: Subtle is my other middle name........ ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:55 AM Subject: Re: irc > > > cool - lets get naked then!! > > > > > > ha ha > > > > > > Mb > > > > What a charmer! > > Well, he's an Aussie. That passes for subtle... > > ;)) > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 21 23:13:46 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:43:46 +1030 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: sounds bizzare - chaotic ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Warren To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 6:29 AM Subject: Re: Foot & Mouth > Well it's pretty bad up here, I work just round the corner from the main > auction mart in carlisle, and next door to Maff here, it's swarming with > troops, and they've trebled the size of the maff offices, the pub where that > senior Government vet was getting slow handclapped is where I go for lunch. > The whole area is on a downer. Our receptionist is a farmers wife, and > they're one of the farms infected. > > If I go up to my mums which is a bit nearer the countryside you can smell > the burning sheep :-( > > It's dire. > > Rich W > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Siegerman" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 5:30 AM > Subject: Foot & Mouth > > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 10:51:34PM -0000, Jill Strobridge wrote: > > > It's just as well Glastonbury has already been cancelled this year. > > > My guess is that it would have been very unlikely to go ahead if > > > that had originally been the intention. In fact I hope Michael > > > Eavis's cows are ok! > > > > I was just checking the web site. Glastonbury proper is *just* > > outside one of the "infected areas" ... for now ... so I suspect > > you're right. > > > > Stonehenge is closed, and it's rather farther from any infected > > areas. > > > > > A show in London will be no risk at all but Devon has major problems > > > just now. I don't know if Dave (Hawkwind) will be affected by > > > this? Anyone? > > > > Honiton's not listed at the moment, but it's less than 10 miles > > from an infected area. And of course I have no idea where their > > place is in relation to the village. > > > > Dave, Kris: I don't know whether you folks keep livestock. If > > you do, my fingers are crossed! > > > > > > FYI, here's the British Agriculture Ministry's Foot & Mouth "hub" > > page: > > http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/diseases/fmd/default.htm > > > > Their information on "infected areas" (ie. areas so declared by > > the Ministry -- they don't use the word "quarantine", but that's > > pretty much the gist of it): > > http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/diseases/fmd/areas.htm > > > > -- > > > > | | /\ > > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > > | | / > > With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > > necessarily a good idea. > > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 21 23:17:19 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:47:19 +1030 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: Maybe it makes the beef taste like chicken ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:30 AM Subject: Re: Foot & Mouth > Of course, I have yet to hear any good explanation of why everyone is > in such a tizzy over a disease that is -- from what I understand, not > that there's been much clarification -- not particularly fatal to the > animals, difficult for humans to contract, and extremely mild even if > humans do manage to catch it. But hey, that's the gov't for ya ... > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:scylding at carlaz.com > http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 21 23:21:15 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:51:15 +1030 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: > inanimate!) object can *carry* it. So the disease does carry the potential > to devastate meat-based farming economies where it hits; just one more > reason why we should all be vegetarians, I suppose ... and they should stick to grain feeding cattle From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Mar 21 23:43:47 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:43:47 EST Subject: OFF: Top 10 beginning with G Message-ID: In a message dated 3/21/01 12:34:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > Gaseneta > Gasoline > Ghost > Gibson Bros. > Go Commando > Godz (NYC!) > Gories > Groundhogs > Guided By Voices > Gun Club > > -Doug Forgot one, Doug--Glands of External Secretion. And you even played with 'em for God's sake! :) Chuck NP: God--"God's Greatest Hits Vol. 2" (hey, this ain't bad--anyone else heard 'em yet?) From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Mar 22 00:06:39 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill Freeman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:06:39 +0800 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Freeman To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2001 11:48 AM Subject: Re: Re: Foot & Mouth > > Doug said: > > > > to devastate meat-based farming economies where it hits; just one more > > reason why we should all be vegetarians, I suppose ... > > > > -Doug > > ceres at sirius.com > > > I'm a vegetarian of sorts - I only eat animals that eat grass....:-) > > Bill > From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Thu Mar 22 01:29:41 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:29:41 EST Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Apologies about the made up comment......I do own albums by both alquin and Automatic man.....The "Made Up" Comment was just a joke, however there were many names mentioned I'd never heard of, and I look forward to listening to many of them. However....As Ive only got one Alquin album ( which I love) ...Its "Marks" by the way, Can anyone out there advise of any other albums by them ? Also...Tassavallan Presidentii....I possess Milky Way Moses and its very poor condition (I got it second hand and i play it a lot) and I want it on Cd....Also wouldnt mind any other Tassavallan albums....Any one help out there ? PS thanks for the help on FEFB Andy G....I'll score those off you soon (Promise !) From multiverse at ONEBOX.COM Thu Mar 22 01:44:21 2001 From: multiverse at ONEBOX.COM (Berry Sizemore AKA Jhary-a-Conel) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:44:21 -0800 Subject: multiverse.org's Elric Essay Contest Message-ID: It's simple. Warner Aspect have graciously provided 5 copies of THE DREAMTHIEF'S DAUGHTER, which have been autographed by Mr. Moorcock. You might win a copy if you participate in the multiverse.org Elric Essay Contest. Visit http://www.multiverse.org/ for the details of the contest and your chance to win one of these fine books. As always, Champion, Jhary-a-Conel __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Thu Mar 22 02:30:59 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:30:59 -0000 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: Don't quote me - I don't want to kick off agricultural anarchy but haven't Argentina been living with it for years?? Maybe that explains Corned Beef! I'm even less sure about this bit but I think it's all such a panic because we'll lose our 'Disease Free Status'. LOL Disease Free - Have they seen our Government!!!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:scylding at CARLAZ.COM] Sent: 22 March 2001 01:00 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Foot & Mouth Of course, I have yet to hear any good explanation of why everyone is in such a tizzy over a disease that is -- from what I understand, not that there's been much clarification -- not particularly fatal to the animals, difficult for humans to contract, and extremely mild even if humans do manage to catch it. But hey, that's the gov't for ya ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Thu Mar 22 02:47:08 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:47:08 -0500 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: Hi, A couple of the more easily understood descriptions are that: Foot & Mouth is extremely virulant and does not affect just one animal. A number of reports have described it as similar to Human 'flu, spreading like wildfire. OK, it does not kill the animals but just think what a bad dose of flu does to you and me. Another recent report suggests that the mass burning of the slaughtered animals is 'spreading a "cloud of death" across the UK'. Mark From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Thu Mar 22 03:00:11 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:00:11 -0500 Subject: HW (ish): Bands Beginning with any letter Message-ID: Hi, All this talk about other bands made me wonder about a couple of bands that I chanced upon through my Hawklinks. Does anybody know what happened to any of the following bands: Poisoned Electick Head Ship Of Fools Here & Now and one that I saw supporting the Hawks years ago at the Anti-Heroin show at Crystal Palace .... Balaam & the Angel .... and it was Dame Vera Lynn's birthday this week (tenuous link alert) Just wondering!! Mark From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Thu Mar 22 03:47:08 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:47:08 +1200 Subject: HW (ish): Bands Beginning with any letter In-Reply-To: <200103220800.DAA19621@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > Ship Of Fools Some of the members of Ship of Fools are/were in Nine Invisibles who had an album out on the Delerium label. Ship of Fools were a darn fine band and its a shame they didn't carry on. Their two album/CD releases they put out are much sought after. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Mar 22 03:42:41 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:42:41 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <200103220138.UAA17875@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: At 20.38 -0500 21.3.2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: >As I understand it, although the disease is not *fatal* to animals, it >renders them *economically* worthless (or at least less valuable - I'm not >clear on the reasons for this, but I would assume that it causes the >animals to "waste away" to some extent, decreasing milk production or >amount of usable meat), which, to a farmer/rancher, IS essentially the same >as killing it. And at 02.47 -0500 22.3.2001, Mark Von Bargen wrote: >A couple of the more easily understood descriptions are that: >Foot & Mouth is extremely virulant and does not affect just one animal. >A number of reports have described it as similar to Human 'flu, spreading >like wildfire. >OK, it does not kill the animals but just think what a bad dose of flu does >to you and me. OK. So like with a bad case of flu, first the cow gets sick, then the cow gets better. Meanwhile, surely a slightly peaky cow is more useful than a dead one? From what I understand, you can cook and eat a critter that was absolutely rife with foot-and-mouth perfectly safely, and even if you are unlucky enough to catch something from it, it's going to be nothing compared to the foul cold you caught staggering in the end-of-winter cold and wet. Thank heavens no one shoots me and burns me when I get the flu and can't make it in to work. "Not clear on the reasons for this" I think sums it up. What about this paltry little disease that makes spazzing over it worth 9 *billion* quid is entirely unclear, and any explanation is completely absent in gov't statements or media coverage while they all wrestle back and forth over what to kill when. I think that's what really irks me abou this. Hmmm, I'm waaay off topic. I think this issue has just put some kinda burr under me saddle. Everyone is being led along by the nose (or foot, or mouth ;) without ever asking why. Besides: durn it, these days my taxes go to pay for this sort of folly. I'm not sure whether this is better or worse than the bombs my former US taxes paid for ;) Cheers, Carl ObCD: Hawkwind, _Electric Teepee_, "Right to Decide". -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Thu Mar 22 03:25:26 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:25:26 +0000 Subject: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <005c01c0b287$89e095e0$decb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: At 14.51 +1030 22.3.2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: >> inanimate!) object can *carry* it. So the disease does carry the >potential >> to devastate meat-based farming economies where it hits; just one more >> reason why we should all be vegetarians, I suppose ... > > >and they should stick to grain feeding cattle Or (radical suggestion) grass! ;) I mean, it's not as if the UK doesn't import most of its food anyway, so they may as well require decent organic farming here. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Thu Mar 22 03:28:39 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:28:39 +0000 Subject: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D9035E3202@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: At 07.30 +0000 22.3.2001, Sam Kirwan wrote: >Don't quote me - I don't want to kick off agricultural anarchy but haven't >Argentina been living with it for years?? Maybe that explains Corned Beef! >I'm even less sure about this bit but I think it's all such a panic because >we'll lose our 'Disease Free Status'. Err, disease-free apart from highly publicised outbreaks of disease? ;) >LOL Disease Free - Have they seen our >Government!!!! There's that, too ;) But then, that's true of most all governments! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Thu Mar 22 03:43:57 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:43:57 +0000 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll In-Reply-To: <000901c0b275$3eda8540$0745efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: At 05.10 +0300 22.3.2001, Alissa wrote: >> >No HW yet, but 70% Amorphis. New Am Universe album is great! >> >> Has the general European release happened, or is it still Finland only? > >Great one! >Here in Russia it's already released! Ah, that suggests the general European release has indeed happened. Time to head to the online CD shops! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 22 05:28:56 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:28:56 -0600 Subject: irc In-Reply-To: <001901c0b286$537c7100$decb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: I've been excited by this ever since!!! how big is it Mike?? are you cute Layla?? can I listen in?? mike subtle in teJas >Subtle is my other middle name........ > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Andy Gilham >To: >Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:55 AM >Subject: Re: irc > > >> > > cool - lets get naked then!! >> > > >> > > ha ha >> > > >> > > Mb >> > >> > What a charmer! >> >> Well, he's an Aussie. That passes for subtle... >> >> ;)) >> >> -- Andy >> >> www.andygilham.com From dahl at AROS.NET Thu Mar 22 05:35:53 2001 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:35:53 -0700 Subject: This just in, or out as the case may be Message-ID: Wednesday March 21 7:57 AM ET Sex-Starved Moose Defecates on Car OSLO (Reuters) - A sex-starved moose in Norway mistook a small, yellow car for a would-be partner, but defecated on it after it got no response. Leif Borgersen, owner of the Ford Ka model, told the Norwegian regional daily Telemarksavisa Tuesday that he found his car bathed in lick marks, saliva and moose excrement. Borgersen says the moose left its mark on the front yard of his home in Lardal, about 125 miles southwest of Oslo. ``The front yard was simply transformed into an outdoor toilet,'' he said. ``I'm a bit uncertain whether I should take the risk of letting the car stand alone and defenseless on the front yard from now on.'' There was no damage to the car apart from the sideview mirror that was bent backwards. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 22 05:59:41 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:59:41 -0600 Subject: This just in...GG moose In-Reply-To: <00cc01c0b2bc$0b39b160$4d19adcf@sony> Message-ID: well....so much for any frisky morning moods....that blew it all to hell... So GG came back as a moose eh? m c the 2 "I"'s? From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 06:53:54 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:53:54 +0000 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: I am a vegitarian, have been since I was 6. And I am a lot healthier than most of my meat-eating counterparts. I had it proven!!! (I was young and bored!!) If foot and mouth has much the same effect on cows and stuff as the flu does on humans, why don't they slaughter us when we have the flu!!!??!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!? (sorry, I'm not trying to be obnoxious. This whole thing just buggs me a lot) >>> scylding at CARLAZ.COM 03/22/01 08:25am >>> At 14.51 +1030 22.3.2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: >> inanimate!) object can *carry* it. So the disease does carry the >potential >> to devastate meat-based farming economies where it hits; just one more >> reason why we should all be vegetarians, I suppose ... > > >and they should stick to grain feeding cattle Or (radical suggestion) grass! ;) I mean, it's not as if the UK doesn't import most of its food anyway, so they may as well require decent organic farming here. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 06:56:29 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:56:29 GMT Subject: HW: Warrior "hair"/re-revisited In-Reply-To: Mike Coleman's message of Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:33:33 -0600 Message-ID: Mike Coleman writes: > JD---The "Golden Goose" made your Warrior.....can we please turn it into > "My Warrior"??? just ask your friends if theirs have the hair.....bet you > get a yes...MOST DO! less don't...but none are that big of a > deal......just to people like me that can't find the lady...... And they said gonzo was dead! FoFP From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 06:58:37 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:58:37 +0000 Subject: This just in...GG moose Message-ID: nuts, eh. A moose spoilt all your fun!!!! Layla >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 03/22/01 10:59am >>> well....so much for any frisky morning moods....that blew it all to hell... So GG came back as a moose eh? m c the 2 "I"'s? From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 06:59:06 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:59:06 +0000 Subject: irc Message-ID: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 03/22/01 10:28am >>> I've been excited by this ever since!!! how big is it Mike?? are you cute Layla?? can I listen in?? mike subtle in teJas >Subtle is my other middle name........ > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Andy Gilham >To: >Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:55 AM >Subject: Re: irc > > >> > > cool - lets get naked then!! >> > > >> > > ha ha >> > > >> > > Mb >> > >> > What a charmer! >> >> Well, he's an Aussie. That passes for subtle... >> >> ;)) >> >> -- Andy >> >> www.andygilham.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 07:23:47 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:23:47 GMT Subject: footage In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:05:50 -0000 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01C0A670.7583E520 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > RE: footageSpoke to one of our customers today who was at the gig at = > which the Hawlords stuff was shot in '78 and he reckons that it was an = > Italian TV crew who filmed the whole concert > Now that outs the cat among the pigeons - after all in the '70's there = > were Italian film crews all over Europe shooting everything in sight Was that why Bob was wearing a bulletproof jacket? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 07:25:31 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:25:31 GMT Subject: HW: footage In-Reply-To: Michael Crook's message of Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:58:55 GMT Message-ID: Michael Crook writes: > Good luck with this quest Steve! Maybe the BBC (favorite source I > reckon) filmed about 'a half hour' (as they did for Silver Machine) so > that footage could have been used for TOTP if Urban Geurilla had not > been withdrawn. Of course I hope they filmed the > entire Gig! > Perhaps they might put you on to somone who could uncover that IoW > clip with Terry Ollis - that must be part of somthing bigger. I heard > the BBC won't do an individual research service, but now that the band > themselves are interested... There's also a half hour of tape from the Live Aid gig in Norwich in 1985. It was one of the local TV stations who got this. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 07:46:24 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:46:24 GMT Subject: Hawklords Footage and Top 10 Prog Rock In-Reply-To: Melvyn Vincent's message of Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:11:45 +0000 Message-ID: Melvyn Vincent writes: > >Y'know - it's a wierd thing - but way back whenever, I remember > >watching The Old Grey Whistle Test (very, very quietly 'cos my folks > >were asleep immediately above and there was some very strange music > >I didn't want them to hear me listening to!) and right at the > >beginning of the programme it was announced that they were going to > >have Hawkwind on the show. This was wonderful to me because I > >had never had a chance to see the band play and I was fascinated to > >see what they were like. So I watched the entire programme and > >there was absolutely no sign nor mention of anything Hawkwind at all > >of any kind whatsoever. So by the end of the show I was utterly > >fed up and just anxious to go to bed and had pretty much stopped > >paying attention and then I think - just as the final credits rolled > >up - they played a video clip. Sadly my memory is fairly hazy on > >this point but I'm fairly sure it was just the Silver Machine clip > >because I can remember feeling exceedingly cheated that that's all > >it was! Exactly *why* they were playing Silver Machine I'm not > >sure - later rational tells me that it was possibly one of the > >re-issues of that single which would make it probably 1978. But > >if anyone can add to this I'd be glad to hear about it. Rupert Murdoch, Global Media, and the IRA have been involved in a 30 year plan to prevent Hawkwind storming the planet. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 07:54:15 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:54:15 GMT Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:42:41 +0000 Message-ID: > > OK. So like with a bad case of flu, first the cow gets sick, then the > cow gets better. Meanwhile, surely a slightly peaky cow is more > useful than a dead one? From what I understand, you can cook and eat > a critter that was absolutely rife with foot-and-mouth perfectly > safely, and even if you are unlucky enough to catch something from > it, it's going to be nothing compared to the foul cold you caught > staggering in the end-of-winter cold and wet. Thank heavens no one > shoots me and burns me when I get the flu and can't make it in to > work. > > "Not clear on the reasons for this" I think sums it up. What about > this paltry little disease that makes spazzing over it worth 9 > *billion* quid is entirely unclear, and any explanation is completely > absent in gov't statements or media coverage while they all wrestle > back and forth over what to kill when. I think that's what really > irks me abou this. It's pretty simple: an animal with Foot and Mouth loses about 20% productive capacity and is infectious to other animals. A country with endemic disease loses export markets which adds losses on top of the 20% assuming that the local populace doesn't absorb all output. So basically if you have to kill less than 20% of your animals to eliminate the disease then you're ahead on the economics. In 1967 when the outbreak lasted less than a year, the UK killed less than 1% of animals. 20% currently qould be around 16 million animals. If they get anywhere close to that they'll have lost to the disease anyway. ObWierd: Being in Times Square New York and seeing a ticker for the number of F&M sheep in the UK. ObWonder: We haven't seen any animal rights folks lamenting the poor widdle sheep. From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Thu Mar 22 08:02:22 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:02:22 +1200 Subject: Sale time In-Reply-To: <200103221246.MAA10081@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: There is a sale currently on at Cranium Music for the next two weeks. Not much Hawkwind in stock but plenty of other psychedelic, spacerock and krautrock music for your head. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 07:55:45 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:55:45 GMT Subject: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:25:26 +0000 Message-ID: > >> inanimate!) object can *carry* it. So the disease does carry the > >> potential to devastate meat-based farming economies where it hits; > >> just one more reason why we should all be vegetarians, I suppose > >> ... In much the same way that car accidents mean we should all be pedestrians. FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 22 08:16:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:46:01 +1030 Subject: irc Message-ID: Calm down mike.... He's really not the antichrist - just a naughty boy! ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:29 PM Subject: Re: irc > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? > > >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 03/22/01 10:28am >>> > I've been excited by this ever since!!! > > how big is it Mike?? > > are you cute Layla?? > > can I listen in?? > > > mike subtle in teJas > > >Subtle is my other middle name........ > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Andy Gilham > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:55 AM > >Subject: Re: irc > > > > > >> > > cool - lets get naked then!! > >> > > > >> > > ha ha > >> > > > >> > > Mb > >> > > >> > What a charmer! > >> > >> Well, he's an Aussie. That passes for subtle... > >> > >> ;)) > >> > >> -- Andy > >> > >> www.andygilham.com > From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Mar 22 08:17:00 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:17:00 -0600 Subject: irc Message-ID: He needs to get spanked very badly -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 7:16 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: irc Calm down mike.... He's really not the antichrist - just a naughty boy! ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:29 PM Subject: Re: irc > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? > > >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 03/22/01 10:28am >>> > I've been excited by this ever since!!! > > how big is it Mike?? > > are you cute Layla?? > > can I listen in?? > > > mike subtle in teJas > > >Subtle is my other middle name........ > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Andy Gilham > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:55 AM > >Subject: Re: irc > > > > > >> > > cool - lets get naked then!! > >> > > > >> > > ha ha > >> > > > >> > > Mb > >> > > >> > What a charmer! > >> > >> Well, he's an Aussie. That passes for subtle... > >> > >> ;)) > >> > >> -- Andy > >> > >> www.andygilham.com > From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Thu Mar 22 08:18:52 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:18:52 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Can I just take this opportunity to say..............HAWKWIND!!!!!!! Sam *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Thu Mar 22 08:22:26 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:22:26 -0000 Subject: irc Message-ID: poivert.... Sam -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Lindas [mailto:LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM] Sent: 22 March 2001 13:17 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: irc He needs to get spanked very badly -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 7:16 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: irc Calm down mike.... He's really not the antichrist - just a naughty boy! ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:29 PM Subject: Re: irc > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? > > >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 03/22/01 10:28am >>> > I've been excited by this ever since!!! > > how big is it Mike?? > > are you cute Layla?? > > can I listen in?? > > > mike subtle in teJas > > >Subtle is my other middle name........ > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Andy Gilham > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:55 AM > >Subject: Re: irc > > > > > >> > > cool - lets get naked then!! > >> > > > >> > > ha ha > >> > > > >> > > Mb > >> > > >> > What a charmer! > >> > >> Well, he's an Aussie. That passes for subtle... > >> > >> ;)) > >> > >> -- Andy > >> > >> www.andygilham.com > *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Mar 22 08:34:29 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:34:29 -0500 Subject: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <003401c0b28d$e11422e0$7d4d3bcb@rvjcaish> Message-ID: >> Doug said: >> >> >>> to devastate meat-based farming economies where it hits; just one more >>> reason why we should all be vegetarians, I suppose ... >>> >>> -Doug >>> ceres at sirius.com Bill replied: >> I'm a vegetarian of sorts - I only eat animals that eat grass....:-) >> >> Bill Here's an interesting interview with "The Crocodile Hunter" from the April issue of Scientific American. He explains why he eventually decided not to become a vegetarian. http://www.scientificamerican.com/2001/0401issue/0401scicit3box2.html Brian P.S. I'm going to Ireland late this summer. Any reason I should be concerned about foot and mouth in the South ruining the trip? From starcannibal at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Mar 22 08:35:06 2001 From: starcannibal at HOTMAIL.COM (Star Cannibal) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:35:06 -0000 Subject: New band promoting hashish Message-ID: That would be S Club 7 then http://musicgoeson.com/news "They told Radio One: "We have been stupid and know that we've made a big mistake. We feel that we have let a lot of people down, and have learned our lesson the hard way"." I hope they're talking about their music here, and not a bit of harmless dopesmoking. May be the guys were killing time waiting 'til Croydon on Sunday... ---------------------------- Enigmatic one we cannot kill _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Mar 22 08:36:48 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:36:48 -0500 Subject: irc In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6D44@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: => He needs to get spanked very badly No, he (and others of similar persuasion) should be forced to sign up to BOC-L in DIGEST mode and have to scroll past the same old repeated messages with a single line of "content" prepended---that is, until he learns to trim his posts. (Either that, or I'm going to have to take a leaf out of Andy Gilham's book and finally figure out how to use something like procmail...:) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Mar 22 09:06:09 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:06:09 -0500 Subject: META: Proper headings in subject line Message-ID: Hi all Gosh I hate to be a pain but could we all go back to toeing the line on the protocol for the subject lines. Since the server is so smart as to be able to edit out all the messages a subscriber doesn't want I think it is just fair and polite to put OFF or HW or BOC in the headers. We seem to be missing mostly OFF recently........... I am as guilty as the next guy recently too.... Thanks in Advance. From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 09:42:53 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:42:53 +0000 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: only eat animals that eat grass. Ha, ha,ha. (sarcasm) >>> blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM 03/22/01 01:34pm >>> >> Doug said: >> >> >>> to devastate meat-based farming economies where it hits; just one more >>> reason why we should all be vegetarians, I suppose ... >>> >>> -Doug >>> ceres at sirius.com Bill replied: >> I'm a vegetarian of sorts - I only eat animals that eat grass....:-) >> >> Bill Here's an interesting interview with "The Crocodile Hunter" from the April issue of Scientific American. He explains why he eventually decided not to become a vegetarian. http://www.scientificamerican.com/2001/0401issue/0401scicit3box2.html Brian P.S. I'm going to Ireland late this summer. Any reason I should be concerned about foot and mouth in the South ruining the trip? From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Mar 22 10:11:08 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:11:08 -0600 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: Only eat animals that are already dead. -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:43 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Foot & Mouth only eat animals that eat grass. Ha, ha,ha. (sarcasm) >>> blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM 03/22/01 01:34pm >>> >> Doug said: >> >> >>> to devastate meat-based farming economies where it hits; just one more >>> reason why we should all be vegetarians, I suppose ... >>> >>> -Doug >>> ceres at sirius.com Bill replied: >> I'm a vegetarian of sorts - I only eat animals that eat grass....:-) >> >> Bill Here's an interesting interview with "The Crocodile Hunter" from the April issue of Scientific American. He explains why he eventually decided not to become a vegetarian. http://www.scientificamerican.com/2001/0401issue/0401scicit3box2.html Brian P.S. I'm going to Ireland late this summer. Any reason I should be concerned about foot and mouth in the South ruining the trip? From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 10:24:15 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:24:15 GMT Subject: multi-album CD's? Message-ID: I saw something called something like "The Hawkwind Collection" in Denver. It appeared to be simply a couple of the Anderson albums sold as a package. Maybe In the Beginning and Space Ritual II> Does anyone have this, and the actual collection title so that I can confirm this? Also, what was the exact title and contents of the recent Stonehenge collection multi CD package? What was the correct title contents of The Entire and Infinite Universe? Has anyone a summary of the details of all multi-CD packages? Just to add these to the discography and codex... FoFP (who collects the CD's but not repeats of 'em) From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Mar 22 10:32:27 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:32:27 -0600 Subject: multi-album CD's? Message-ID: THE Stonehenge collectoin is zones and this is hawkwind do not panic, I don't remember the exact title. The other one I think is the family box. 2 of the cds are the same with different titles. You probably have everything on that. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:24 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: multi-album CD's? I saw something called something like "The Hawkwind Collection" in Denver. It appeared to be simply a couple of the Anderson albums sold as a package. Maybe In the Beginning and Space Ritual II> Does anyone have this, and the actual collection title so that I can confirm this? Also, what was the exact title and contents of the recent Stonehenge collection multi CD package? What was the correct title contents of The Entire and Infinite Universe? Has anyone a summary of the details of all multi-CD packages? Just to add these to the discography and codex... FoFP (who collects the CD's but not repeats of 'em) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 10:37:25 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:37:25 GMT Subject: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? In-Reply-To: Douglas Pearson's message of Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:11:16 -0500 Message-ID: Speaking of Tarot, and harking back to Zelazny, did anyone ever make an Amber tarot deck? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 10:43:47 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:43:47 GMT Subject: Canterbury festival In-Reply-To: Michael W Blackman's message of Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:19:29 +1030 Message-ID: Michael W Blackman writes: > I read previously someone said hire an Island Fernando Poo! FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 22 10:53:27 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:53:27 -0600 Subject: multi-album CD's? In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6D4C@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: I thought he referred to the Family box as well, but I think maybe he means "year 2000: codename hawkwind".....(or the previous 2CD ANDERSON jobber)(with the blotter art NO LESS) apologies my CRS is bad these days, as I'm drowning my attentions on LP's lately, and my CD's are for 4:45 AM, or thereabouts, when drunkeness, and wet hands from beer-bottles has to figure in.... I have all those mike....if listmates don't spring to rescue..... coleman From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 10:55:42 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:55:42 GMT Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:22:24 +0000 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > In message , Carl Edlund Anderson > >Moorcock would be a bit left-wing, then ... ;) > Well he generally styles himself an anarchist and I think the essay > Doug quoted was in some anarchist journal originally. He has also > written that the most important thing is to be a feminist first and > anything else second. He's apparently a big fan of radical feminist > Andrea Dworkin. Bizarre, and more than a little dated. It's kinda weird to hear a writer making pro-censorship arguments. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 11:02:45 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:02:45 GMT Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post In-Reply-To: Richard Stockwell's message of Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:19:19 +1300 Message-ID: Richard Stockwell writes: > > Help! I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is surely > near. In Kleinism, there is no End. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 11:06:05 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:06:05 GMT Subject: top five hawk albums In-Reply-To: Sam Kirwan's message of Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:58:41 -0000 Message-ID: Sam Kirwan writes: > Good point on Alien 4 Layla, Love in Space is in that category too. Since > when did Hawkwind do Lovey-Dovey - almost as bad as Sam Fox & Bridgette > Wishart singing for them. KILL The UNBELIEVER!!! > Sweet Mistress of Pain (Kissing the Velvet Whip) > is the closest Hawkwind seriously get to 'Lurve' Nah. "Sadness Runs Deep". > Sam FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 11:07:32 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:07:32 GMT Subject: OFF.."The Stacia Nuptual" In-Reply-To: Mike Coleman's message of Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:47:01 -0600 Message-ID: Mike Coleman writes: > Too bad I'm too firmly caught in the clutches of Heineken to follow the > Devils own good advice.... It's the worst case of Interstella Artois I've ever seen.... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 11:10:44 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:10:44 GMT Subject: OFF: Space Ritual studio tapes on Ebay? In-Reply-To: Jon Jarrett's message of Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:57:03 +0000 Message-ID: Jon Jarrett writes: > Speaking of which, is anyone clued up enough to remember what > Charlie Kennedy said about legalising cannabis after that little spat in > the papers between the Tory tokers and Anne Widdicombe? I thought he said > the Lib Dems would legalise it He said they'd have a Royal Commission look into it. Mike "As if their driving isn't bad enough" Holmes From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 11:11:47 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:11:47 GMT Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: Jon Jarrett's message of Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:00:20 +0000 Message-ID: Jon Jarrett writes: > On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Arin Komins wrote: > > > UK folks, anyone happen to know if it is possible for a nonEuro member > > to get a job over there? All the *.gov.uk sites I looked at > > made it seem highly unlikely...... > > Arin, > it's certainly possible, because list-member Carl Anderson > is doing it in Cambridge (which is nice enough, but has no useful music > scene and only limited music shops though books and scenery we have in > spades); but he made the careful step of getting the job before he moved > so that they (eventually) sorted out his work permit. If you trust to the > efficiency of the Home Office alone... well, just don't, really. Yours, People here have usually had no problem getting a work permit if supported by an employer. FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 22 11:15:12 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:15:12 -0600 Subject: OFF: VERY OFF OFF SO OFF NONE-MORE OFF to 11 In-Reply-To: <200103221602.QAA12664@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: 3 Cheers to Kleinism!!!!! the answer is FOUND!!!! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 11:19:34 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:19:34 GMT Subject: A Pointless Question-Nosecones??? In-Reply-To: Joe Loehr's message of Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:31:06 EST Message-ID: Joe Loehr writes: > > Who let that drama queen Delenn drive then?? > Damn Minbari, sticking their bony ridges into everything! > Only ones who are worse are the fu*king Vorlons! Damn straight. Their whirtles are starlight wintered armchairs. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 11:25:52 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:25:52 GMT Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:37:11 +0000 Message-ID: > Cambridge is indeed bereft of a music scene or any good record shops, > but it could be worse. I expect I'll be here a while -- at least to > ride out the current/coming economic mess. So we'll be coming to your retirement party then? Or does anyone really believe that a record 54 year inflation will be cured by a couple of quarters of low economic growth? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 11:35:09 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:35:09 GMT Subject: OFF: Sick of politicians In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:26:52 +0000 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > >Speaking of which, is anyone clued up enough to remember what > >Charlie Kennedy said about legalising cannabis after that little spat in > >the papers between the Tory tokers and Anne Widdicombe? I thought he said > >the Lib Dems would legalise it (just as the conference has been voting for > >the last fifteen years) but the website seems to have let that oen slip > >through the policy-recording cracks... > > Oh, come now ... I mean, they are _politicians_. They only say things > to score points off their rivals or in hopes of suckering you. Or > both. Just got back from the US. They speak (roughly) the same language there but are they ever different? The TV is *still* constantly about the Clintons (nary a mention of the new President except to say that he's around somewhere as a street huckster saying "Buddy I could spare a trillion". To say it's bizarre would qualify for understatement of the year. I can't blame Bill Clinton for being baffled. The guy can get blowjobs from the help after passing laws specifically outlawing it and still get plaudits from the National Organisation of Women. He can grope his secrretary when she comes for help on the day of her husband's suicide and a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy gets blamed. He can flash his dick at campaign operatives and *they'll* be the ones smeared by the press. And he can bomb the only aspirin plant in a foreign country and his own party switches from "Impeach" to "Support" in nought to five seconds. How in hell was the guy supposed to know that the whole country would draw the line if he stole a sofa from the White House? Mike "No Bill. That's going too far" Holmes From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 11:36:35 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:36:35 +0000 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: Only eat animals if you're going to die otherwise!!! And only then if you're extremely pushed!!!! >>> LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM 03/22/01 03:11pm >>> Only eat animals that are already dead. -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:43 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Foot & Mouth only eat animals that eat grass. Ha, ha,ha. (sarcasm) >>> blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM 03/22/01 01:34pm >>> >> Doug said: >> >> >>> to devastate meat-based farming economies where it hits; just one more >>> reason why we should all be vegetarians, I suppose ... >>> >>> -Doug >>> ceres at sirius.com Bill replied: >> I'm a vegetarian of sorts - I only eat animals that eat grass....:-) >> >> Bill Here's an interesting interview with "The Crocodile Hunter" from the April issue of Scientific American. He explains why he eventually decided not to become a vegetarian. http://www.scientificamerican.com/2001/0401issue/0401scicit3box2.html Brian P.S. I'm going to Ireland late this summer. Any reason I should be concerned about foot and mouth in the South ruining the trip? From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 22 11:43:23 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:43:23 -0600 Subject: Re OFF..completely OFF (stella artois beer ritual) In-Reply-To: <200103221607.QAA14381@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: in a transmission FoFP emitted: "It's the worst case of Interstella Artois I've ever seen...." Me too......that's why I farflung it at ya. author impact -0 From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 11:44:19 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:44:19 GMT Subject: multi-album CD's? In-Reply-To: Mike Coleman's message of Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:53:27 -0600 Message-ID: Mike Coleman writes: > I thought he referred to the Family box as well, but I think maybe he means > "year 2000: codename hawkwind".....(or the previous 2CD ANDERSON > jobber)(with the blotter art NO LESS) > > apologies my CRS is bad these days, as I'm drowning my attentions on LP's > lately, and my CD's are for 4:45 AM, or thereabouts, when drunkeness, and > wet hands from beer-bottles has to figure in.... > > I have all those mike....if listmates don't spring to rescue..... Could you post: A) The titles of the collections B) A list of the CD's they comprise C) Any track additions or changes (there probably aren't any or I'd have bought the collections). Thanks FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 22 12:14:41 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:14:41 -0600 Subject: OFF reply to CD list request In-Reply-To: <200103221644.QAA00080@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In a message Michael Holmes requested Free sharing of acquired knowledge: "could you post:" >A) The titles of the collections-( I have that ability) > >B) A list of the CD's they comprise-(just call me Merlin) > >C) Any track additions or changes (there probably aren't any or I'd have bought the collections).-(don't call me Merlin) "C" will have to be left for one of my higher-up's.......... upon intaking sustenance, I will look for replies to these....if not attended...will email you private at later time... where's that cassette.....(joke) FleshFondue From markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Mar 22 12:26:31 2001 From: markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM (mark cotton) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:26:31 -0000 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Talking of 'HawkLurv', what about 'Infinity' and 'Zarozinia'? PS Has anybody managed to get hold of any tickets for the Leeds gig yet? Mr C. >From: M Holmes >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: top five hawk albums >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:06:05 GMT > >Sam Kirwan writes: > > > Good point on Alien 4 Layla, Love in Space is in that category too. >Since > > when did Hawkwind do Lovey-Dovey - almost as bad as Sam Fox & Bridgette > > Wishart singing for them. > >KILL The UNBELIEVER!!! > > > Sweet Mistress of Pain (Kissing the Velvet Whip) > > is the closest Hawkwind seriously get to 'Lurve' > >Nah. "Sadness Runs Deep". > > > Sam > >FoFP _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 22 12:38:56 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:38:56 -0600 Subject: OFF THE A-Z BAND LIST In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It was very interesting to see all those bands you gifted people have listed.... for the sake of people like me that got "snarred" into spending 10 years with Hawkwind alone....would the more gifted aspect of yourselves consider holding a high imperial "circle of eldrin" council, and refine the "MUST GET EXPOSED TO" artists that would on some level be appropriate to the lover of Hawklore??? THANK YOU! plan 9, and 10...... From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 12:43:18 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:43:18 GMT Subject: OFF : The one true religion for Kev In-Reply-To: Douglas Pearson's message of Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:50:35 -0500 Message-ID: Douglas Pearson writes: > Sounds a lot like the (I think it's called) "shortest political quiz" > that's floating around on some libertarian website. No matter what your > answers to the quiz are, it will tell you that you are (surprise surprise) > actually a libertarian, and you never knew it the whole time! Weirdly enough I did this years ago when I didn't know there were such things as libertarians and it turned out I'd been one the whole time. Of course in my case this was accurate: I'd been at odds with the left for years over their tendency to tell people what to do wity their money (and purloin it for such purposes) and the right for telling people what to do with their bodies, their social life, and damn near everything but their money. > -Doug (who worships neither Yahweh nor Ayn Rand) Mike (Ditto: you don't need to be a Rand fan to be a libertarian, you just need to think that maybe people know what's best for their lives more than the state does). From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Mar 22 12:49:57 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:49:57 -0500 Subject: OFF: was Kev, now Libertarians Message-ID: FoFP responds... >Douglas Pearson writes: > >> Sounds a lot like the (I think it's called) "shortest political quiz" >> that's floating around on some libertarian website. No matter what your >> answers to the quiz are, it will tell you that you are (surprise surprise) >> actually a libertarian, and you never knew it the whole time! (Are you sure this isn't a $cyentologie site?) :) Must be a eLRon creation. >Weirdly enough I did this years ago when I didn't know there were such >things as libertarians and it turned out I'd been one the whole time. I have always been confused by libertarianism...I mean, to me, the idea of a 'libertarian politician' is oxymoronic. I couldn't imagine the libertarian platform ever being an important factor in US politics, 'cause all of the people who might be behind it are the kind of people (like me) who are so cynical and so apolitical, they would have zero organization and completely unable to voice a mass opinion. I assume that I'm 'libertarian' at heart as well, but I really have no idea what the party is truly all about, nor do I care. They do have a visible champion in Bill Maher though (a guy that is at times quite funny and insightful, but whose show is nearly always rubbish)...but my guess is that when he attacks the left, the Republicans go 'Yeah!' and when he attacks the right, the Dems go 'Yeah!' and neither budges from their loyalty to one or the other. Grakkl (FAA) ObHWtrack: Right to Decide From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Mar 22 13:11:06 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:11:06 +0000 Subject: PINK FAIRIES In-Reply-To: <14bNxE-1An0fQC@fwd02.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Rainer Wangler wrote: > I`m sure that Lemmy and Nik played with Pink Fairies but it was at 13 july 1975 > Roundhouse. I have 85 min of this gig. > The gig are also released in parts and called Live at the Roundhouse I have the CD of which this album is part... > Tracks city kids / do it / free previous from our seconds / the snake / lucille > / waiting for my man + / uncle harry`s + / street urchin +/ bye bye johnny + > /going down +/ > + this tracks are with lemmy and nik And okay, there's a bass player even if it doesn't sound like Lemmy, but there is certainly no sax on `Waiting for my Man', `Uncle Harry's Freakout' and `Going Down', all of which are on the CD. If they did play with this Fairies incarnation, I don't think it was at this gig. Are you sure it's the same gig as is on the album? Yours, Jon ObCD: Motorhead - _Bomber_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Mar 22 13:19:53 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:19:53 +0000 Subject: PINK FAIRIES/ Piggyphobia In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Mike Coleman wrote: > SAY BOY!! don't you know flyin' piggies are people too, just wear dark > shades.... And have the glorious red white and yellow dimmed in my eyes? Never! > But seriously..... > > Larry is at work on his new album...... Now that there is a serious allegation as if it be true it will cause me to spend money. Can you provide any substantiation there Citizen Coleman? Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Mar 22 14:02:59 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:02:59 +0000 Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: <200103221611.QAA15872@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 16.11 +0000 22.3.2001, M Holmes wrote: >People here have usually had no problem getting a work permit if >supported by an employer. Well, I was supported by my employer, of course -- it's just that they didn't have any experience with the enormous quantity of red tape that the Home Office generates. So it took 6 months to get a work permit -- and 6 months is a *very* long time to not know whether one is going to have the job you were offered or whether you are about to move to a different continent! ;) Still, it could be worse. The Home Office spent _9_ months deciding whether to stamp and sign my request (which I hand delivered to them) to spend more time as an overseas student haemoraging money into the UK economy ;) Mind you, I have absolute confidence in the US Dept of Immigration to equal these feats! I wonder if other EU countries are as bad? (Probably ...) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Mar 22 14:04:14 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:04:14 -0000 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: exactly - who the hell in the UK is there left to vote for in terms of political parties - christ, we may have the power to vote but honestly what the hell use is it right now if you don't want he Conservatives Mk 1 (the real Conservatives), the Conservatives Mark 2 (Labour), the Conservatives Mark 3 (Liberal), the no-hopers (Scottish/Welsh Nationalists) or the loonies (practically everyone else including the Green Party) - hell, at least America had a choice!!!! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Foot & Mouth > At 07.30 +0000 22.3.2001, Sam Kirwan wrote: > >Don't quote me - I don't want to kick off agricultural anarchy but haven't > >Argentina been living with it for years?? Maybe that explains Corned Beef! > >I'm even less sure about this bit but I think it's all such a panic because > >we'll lose our 'Disease Free Status'. > > Err, disease-free apart from highly publicised outbreaks of disease? ;) > > >LOL Disease Free - Have they seen our > >Government!!!! > > There's that, too ;) But then, that's true of most all governments! > > Cheers, > Carl > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:scylding at carlaz.com > http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Mar 22 14:24:46 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:24:46 -0000 Subject: New band promoting hashish Message-ID: the big mistake was getting caught - thought the press might latch onto that - only good thing about this is that it will probably ruin their career now - the drugs really do work!!!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Star Cannibal" To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 1:35 PM Subject: New band promoting hashish > That would be S Club 7 then > > http://musicgoeson.com/news > > "They told Radio One: "We have been stupid and know that we've made a big > mistake. We feel that we have let a lot of people down, and have learned our > lesson the hard way"." > > I hope they're talking about their music here, and not a bit of harmless > dopesmoking. > > May be the guys were killing time waiting 'til Croydon on Sunday... > > ---------------------------- > Enigmatic one we cannot kill > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Mar 22 14:27:10 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:27:10 -0000 Subject: multi-album CD's? Message-ID: no - the Family box is a lot more complex than that - esentially a vehicle for Cleoptra to stick in a remarkable array of overstock CD's - we've had more than six different sets/combinations of four CD's so far, all in the same packaging - totally bizarre!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lindas" To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 3:32 PM Subject: Re: multi-album CD's? > THE Stonehenge collectoin is zones and this is hawkwind do not panic, I > don't remember the exact title. The other one I think is the family box. 2 > of the cds are the same with different titles. You probably have everything > on that. CHEERS STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:24 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: multi-album CD's? > > > I saw something called something like "The Hawkwind Collection" in > Denver. It appeared to be simply a couple of the Anderson albums sold as > a package. Maybe In the Beginning and Space Ritual II> Does anyone have > this, and the actual collection title so that I can confirm this? > > Also, what was the exact title and contents of the recent Stonehenge > collection multi CD package? > > What was the correct title contents of The Entire and Infinite Universe? > > Has anyone a summary of the details of all multi-CD packages? > > Just to add these to the discography and codex... > > FoFP (who collects the CD's but not repeats of 'em) From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Mar 22 14:29:06 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:29:06 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <200103221254.MAA12785@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 12.54 +0000 22.3.2001, M Holmes wrote: >A country with >endemic disease loses export markets which adds losses on top of the 20% >assuming that the local populace doesn't absorb all output. Though why the UK exports produce when it doesn't produce enough to feed itself is equally mysterious to me -- thank heavens I'm no economist! :) Since farming is such a tiny part of the UK's economy, the real damage seems to be to the tourist industry, which just adds an extra layer of surrealality to the whole thing. And, of course, farmers don't usually vote Labour, so perhaps that explains the gov't's haphazard approach to the whole thing ;) Luckily, no one confiscates your computer and burns it if it contracts a virus, even if it temporarily slows down your productivity :) Cheers, Carl ObHawkwind: "Psychedelic Warlords (Disappear in Smoke)". -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Mar 22 14:22:49 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:22:49 +0000 Subject: OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: <200103221625.QAA21130@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 16.25 +0000 22.3.2001, M Holmes wrote: >> Cambridge is indeed bereft of a music scene or any good record shops, >> but it could be worse. I expect I'll be here a while -- at least to >> ride out the current/coming economic mess. > >So we'll be coming to your retirement party then? Or does anyone really >believe that a record 54 year inflation will be cured by a couple of >quarters of low economic growth? Well, working on the assumption that the current economic hangover is largely the result of everyone getting drunk on the internet stuff ... the computing industry cycle has historically been a bunch of years of growth followed by a few years of downturn and shakeout. I remember trying to get a job after university in the early 90s in the US, and things haven't gotten anything like that tough yet. So my guess is that things will continue to get worse and stay worse for a couple of years and then they'll get better. Of course, I could be wrong and we're gonna be plunged into the Son of the Great Depression. In which case, it's a good thing I already have the Hawkwind EMI remasters, since I won't have a job from which to retire! (Hey, it's a priorities thing :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 22 14:31:06 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:31:06 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Carl Edlund Anderson writes > >OK. So like with a bad case of flu, first the cow gets sick, then the >cow gets better. Meanwhile, surely a slightly peaky cow is more >useful than a dead one? I discussed this with a friend of mine who's a vet i.e. he knows something about it, unlike 99% of the people airing their opinions in the media. I append some of his comments below: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. I suppose it's like a bad cold, if your bad colds give you inch-wide ragged bleeding ulcers in your mouth and make your fingernails slough off - bearing in mind that ungulates are supposed to stand on their fingernails. Imagine your nailbeds were the size of a cow's and then you had to stand on them for a month. 2. Although FMD doesn't kill, the animals get so fucked that 5-10% die of super-infection. 3. Animals become *very* debilitated after getting FMD and when the ministry say they lose their productivity, that is a bit of an understatement. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So it would seem that this stuff about it being "like a bout of flu" is pretty wide of the mark. That doesn't address all the points about vaccination, the slowness of the official response etc. but worth knowing I thought. -- Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 22 14:34:13 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:34:13 +0000 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi In-Reply-To: <200103221555.PAA09685@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In message <200103221555.PAA09685 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Nick Medford writes: >> Well he generally styles himself an anarchist and I think the essay >> Doug quoted was in some anarchist journal originally. He has also >> written that the most important thing is to be a feminist first and >> anything else second. He's apparently a big fan of radical feminist >> Andrea Dworkin. > >Bizarre, and more than a little dated. It's kinda weird to hear a writer >making pro-censorship arguments. Indeed. This was mid-80s, whether he holds the same views now I don't know, but I suspect he does- he wrote an effusive introduction to Dworkin's book 'Intercourse', although I haven't read the book (read the intro in the bookshop and was thoroughly put off exploring further). -- Nick Medford From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Mar 22 14:46:10 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:46:10 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <019e01c0b308$c4013e60$c018bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: At 19.04 +0000 22.3.2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >exactly - who the hell in the UK is there left to vote for in terms of >political parties - christ, we may have the power to vote but honestly what >the hell use is it right now if you don't want he Conservatives Mk 1 (the >real Conservatives), the Conservatives Mark 2 (Labour), the Conservatives >Mark 3 (Liberal), the no-hopers (Scottish/Welsh Nationalists) or the loonies >(practically everyone else including the Green Party) - hell, at least >America had a choice!!!! Yeah, and shot it down in the primaries! The US gave itsself a choice between between Rich Daddy's Boy Party Hack One and Rich Daddy's Boy Party Hack Two, neither of whom were particularly palatable. No wonder that election turnout tumbled and the results were so close and so confused. Unfortunately, UK poltics seems to be headed down exactly the same road. Labour are pretty hopeless, but the Tories are probably worse, and who knows what the Lib Dems will do? Like in the States, any real choice has been lost in a mire of career politicians playing one-upsmanship party-politics games. Meanwhile, there aren't any teachers, trains, hospitals, sheep, etc. I would admire the Lib Dems for saying that they think taxes actually need to be raised -- since the UK does occupy this weird, disfunctional middle ground between the US's low-tax low-public-services and Europe's high-tax high-public-services -- except that I have absolute confidence that they would waste them just as well as Labour or the Tories. Ah, well, at least they're all more or less centrists ... On the other hand, being a dodgy foreign national, I don't get a say in who wastes my taxes, though I can vote for American politicians who will waste someone else's taxes. Go figure ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Mar 22 15:32:27 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:32:27 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: => Luckily, no one confiscates your computer and burns it if it => contracts a virus, even if it temporarily slows down your => productivity :) Actually, you've just hit on an excellent idea there! It sure would get rid of a lot of Windows machines... >;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Mar 22 15:51:13 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:51:13 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: => Unfortunately, UK poltics seems to be headed down exactly the same => road. Labour are pretty hopeless, but the Tories are probably worse, => and who knows what the Lib Dems will do? Like in the States, any => real choice has been lost in a mire of career politicians playing => one-upsmanship party-politics games. Meanwhile, there aren't any => teachers, trains, hospitals, sheep, etc. Don't forget the morass of dodgy campaign contributions, either! I'm pretty much convinced after the last US election that US politics isn't about winning per se, but about making sure the other guy loses. I don't recall seeing a single campaign ad that told me what a candidate was for; they just spent all the time saying what a crummy lot the other guy is, and how all your Hawkwind albums would burst into flames come election day if you voted for him. Some of the Virginia senate ads were masterful examples of high propaganda. I still don't know what the issues were on which that George Allen (and his irritating perma-smile) ascended to victory, other than *this time* he didn't campaign on the platform of "my daddy coached the Washington Redskins..." :-) => On the other hand, being a dodgy foreign national, I don't get a say => in who wastes my taxes, though I can vote for American politicians => who will waste someone else's taxes. Go figure ... Just because you cannot legally vote does not mean you can't be involved in politics and have a say in who wastes your taxes. There is nothing stopping you speaking out and influencing those who can vote, or even affecting those doing the taxes wasting. This is especially true in this day and age of excessive reliance on opinion polls. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 22 12:03:12 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:03:12 GMT Subject: HW: Croydon In-Reply-To: Zeitgeist's message of Mon, 19 Mar 2001 05:59:37 -0500 Message-ID: Zeitgeist writes: > Where, when, its less than a week now! The George? What time. I can probably get there between 3 and 4. Who's all gonna be there? FoFP From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Mar 22 16:14:52 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:14:52 -0500 Subject: PINK FAIRIES/ Piggyphobia Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:19:53 +0000, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Mike Coleman wrote: >> But seriously..... >> >> Larry is at work on his new album...... > > Now that there is a serious allegation as if it be true it will >cause me to spend money. Can you provide any substantiation there Citizen >Coleman? It's mentioned on his website: http://www.pinkfairies.co.uk/ -Doug ceres at sirius.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 22 16:56:50 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:56:50 -0600 Subject: PINK FAIRIES/ Piggyphobia con't In-Reply-To: <200103222114.QAA25628@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Jon Jarrett asked for proof about Larry Wallis: I had a few emails to and fro with him....... hope he recovers his sanity....... AND as Doug P said,,,,,it's on the site...... Citezen Coleman--god bless you Jon..... From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 22 17:31:00 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:31:00 EST Subject: Weird #6 Message-ID: Greetings, Hawkwind lovers: Just got my copy of #6 in the mail today, from Voiceprint themselves, of all places. Anybuddy what wants one could try e-mailing Victoria at Voiceprint_mailorder at compuserve.com Don't know if they have any more lying around, but if they get bombarded my tons of mail saying, "hey, can I have a copy of Weird #6?", they might do a fast reprint! Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Mar 22 17:37:04 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:37:04 -0000 Subject: PINK FAIRIES Message-ID: They certainly did not play at the gig on the "Live at the Roundhouse" CD. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: Re: PINK FAIRIES > On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Rainer Wangler wrote: > > > I`m sure that Lemmy and Nik played with Pink Fairies but it was at 13 july 1975 > > Roundhouse. I have 85 min of this gig. > > The gig are also released in parts and called Live at the Roundhouse > > I have the CD of which this album is part... > > > Tracks city kids / do it / free previous from our seconds / the snake / lucille > > / waiting for my man + / uncle harry`s + / street urchin +/ bye bye johnny + > > /going down +/ > > + this tracks are with lemmy and nik > > And okay, there's a bass player even if it doesn't sound like > Lemmy, but there is certainly no sax on `Waiting for my Man', `Uncle > Harry's Freakout' and `Going Down', all of which are on the CD. If they > did play with this Fairies incarnation, I don't think it was at this > gig. Are you sure it's the same gig as is on the album? Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: Motorhead - _Bomber_ > -- > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > =================================================================== > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 22 17:43:15 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:43:15 EST Subject: No subject Message-ID: In a message dated 3/22/01 8:20:29 AM US Eastern Standard Time, samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM writes: > Can I just take this opportunity to say..............HAWKWIND!!!!!!! > > Sam > > > Well spoken, Dear Lady! Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coral at APORT.RU Thu Mar 22 17:50:35 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:50:35 +0300 Subject: Weird #6 Message-ID: > Don't know if they have any more lying around, but if they get bombarded my > tons of mail saying, "hey, can I have a copy of Weird #6?", they might do a > fast reprint! What is so special about this #6? Alissa From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Mar 22 18:03:02 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:03:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: Damon and Naomi ... and KURIHARA UK tour Message-ID: from another list ... >This just in - the UK leg of Damon and Naomi's tour with Kurihara >(KURIHARA!!!). I do believe the Field Mice are on the same bill. Please >feel free to help spread the word.... > > >>13-May-01 Sun THE FLEECE BRISTOL >>15-May-01 Tue LITTLE CIVIC WOLVERHAMPTON >>16-May-01 Wed THE GARAGE LONDON >>17-May-01 Thu HOP & GRAPES MANCHESTER >>18-May-01 Fri FIBBERS YORK >>19-May-01 Sat ROADMENDERS NORTHAMPTON >>(these gigs on the 18th and 19th may be reversed in the end. . . .) >>20-May-01 Sun KING TUTS GLASGOW >> >>Then on to the continent, so far Holland and Spain. Damon and Naomi are the former rhythm section from Galaxie 500 (and Magic Hour), and, to be honest, nothing to get at all excited about (IMO). HOWEVER, Michio Kurihara is one of the most amazing, mind-blowing guitarists alive on planet Earth at the moment. His work with the likes of White Heaven, Ghost and Overhang Party is brilliantly melodic and stunningly psychedelic. Fans of "west coast" psychedelic guitar style (John Cippolina, Deke Leonard, etc.) will NOT want to miss an opportunity to see him in action! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 22 18:18:43 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:18:43 EST Subject: Weird #6 Message-ID: In a message dated 3/22/01 5:53:14 PM US Eastern Standard Time, coral at APORT.RU writes: > What is so special about this #6? > > Dunno, other than it's OOP after, I guess, a short period of time. It's "Live-- Space aces from 1970-73 An interplanetary mission of gripping and exciting action!" Halfway through listening to it now -- so far so good! Tack lists is: Make What You Can (73)-- never heerd of this one, before. Born to Go (72)--12-odd minute version; from Galstonbury or Greasy Truckers, innit? Master of the Universe (72)--version from EMI remaster Space Ritual (encore?) Jam (72)--?? sounds familiar; maybe the jam from the end of You Shouldn't Do That, SR encore version? Hurry on Sundown (70)--same version that's on the Anthology/Acid Daze/ Anthology 1967-1982 Come Home (70)--ditto We Do It (70)--ditto again, i think 70 line up: Dave B., Nik, DikMik, Huw, Terry, John Harrison 72 line up: Dave, Bob, Nik, Lemmy,, DikMik, Simon King No line up is given for 73, but I would assume it's the same as the 73, except it sound like Dave is singing lead. But that doesn't necessarily mean that Bob wasn't lurking nearby. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Mar 22 18:24:22 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:24:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Weird #6 Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:18:43 EST, Joe Loehr wrote: >It's "Live-- Space aces from 1970-73 An interplanetary mission of >gripping and exciting action!" > >Halfway through listening to it now -- so far so good! >Tack lists is: >Make What You Can (73)-- never heerd of this one, before. So this is the only track that isn't available elsewhere (SR remaster, Anthology/Acid Daze)? Can anyone verify this? Thanks! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 22 18:29:42 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:29:42 EST Subject: HW: Weird #6 Message-ID: In a message dated 3/22/01 6:24:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > So this is the only track that isn't available elsewhere (SR remaster, > Anthology/Acid Daze)? Can anyone verify this? Thanks! > > 'taint on the SR remaster(I got), and as I've heard that the Anthology 1967-1982( what I got) is a (mostly) repackage of the Anthology/Acid Daze set(I no got either) I have no idea if it's been released before. $23 odd dollars for one song Hmm . . . . Joe PS Sorry for the primitive English--I was having a Tarzan flashback -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Mar 22 18:47:53 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:47:53 -0000 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Halligan To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Foot & Mouth > > P.S. I'm going to Ireland late this summer. Any reason I should be concerned > about foot and mouth in the South ruining the trip? Some sheep were imported to a Northern Ireland farm from one of the affected English markets. These turned out to have the virus so all that could be found were destroyed. However several remained untraced (at the time, though they might have been located by now). Unfortunately today the first cases in the Republic have just been identified on the next door farm just over the border so it seems to have gained a foothold. Let's hope it won't go any further. jill > From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Mar 22 19:08:19 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:08:19 +0000 Subject: Weird #6 In-Reply-To: <93.88f9f35.27ebe253@aol.com> Message-ID: In article <93.88f9f35.27ebe253 at aol.com>, Joe Loehr writes > In a message dated 3/22/01 5:53:14 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > coral at APORT.RU writes: > > >> What is so special about this #6? > > > > Dunno, other than it's OOP after, I guess, a short period of time. > > It's "Live-- Space aces from 1970-73 An interplanetary mission of > gripping > and exciting action!" > > Halfway through listening to it now -- so far so good! > Tack lists is: > Make What You Can (73)-- never heerd of this one, before. > Born to Go (72)--12-odd minute version; from Galstonbury or Greasy > Truckers, > innit? Yes > Master of the Universe (72)--version from EMI remaster Space Ritual > (encore?) Greasy Truckers > Jam (72)--?? sounds familiar; maybe the jam from the end of You > Shouldn't Do > That, SR encore version? No, the full version of that is on 'the best and the rest of HW live', a shorter version on 'Roadhawks' and probably other compilations. This one is again (I think) Greasy Truckers. Copies are still available - got a mail from cdzone today, they're sending me a copy (took them 2 months to get it though) -- David Blair From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Mar 22 19:06:26 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:06:26 -0000 Subject: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 1:00 AM Subject: Re: Foot & Mouth > Of course, I have yet to hear any good explanation of why everyone is > in such a tizzy over a disease that is -- from what I understand, not > that there's been much clarification -- not particularly fatal to the > animals, Not quite true. It's fatal to lambs and can be one of the first signs that something is wrong if the illness strikes a sheep flock at lambing time and all the lambs that are born are dead. When that happens an immediate test for foot and mouth may well prove positive. Interestingly I've just been reading a book about the wool trade in 14th century England when there were a terrible couple of years when wool production collapsed because of a "murrain" among the sheep. The author suggested it was foot rot but I wonder if there was a major outbreak of foot and mouth away back then. off-subjectively jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Thu Mar 22 19:21:15 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:21:15 +0000 Subject: HW: Weird #6 In-Reply-To: <63.13810052.27ebe4e6@aol.com> Message-ID: >In a message dated 3/22/01 6:24:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time, >ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > > > >So this is the only track that isn't available elsewhere (SR remaster, >Anthology/Acid Daze)? Can anyone verify this? Thanks! > > > > > >'taint on the SR remaster(I got), and as I've heard that the Anthology >1967-1982( what I got) is a (mostly) repackage of the Anthology/Acid Daze >set(I no got either) >I have no idea if it's been released before. > >$23 odd dollars for one song > >Hmm . . . . > >Joe > Well..........hardly worth a re-press if you ask me. What a waste of money for a load of stuff that most of us 'die hards' have heard before! mel. From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 22 19:17:41 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:17:41 EST Subject: Weird #6 Message-ID: In a message dated 3/22/01 7:09:43 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK writes: > got a mail from cdzone today, they're > sending me a copy (took them 2 months to get it though) > -- > That's about how long it took me to get #6 from Voiceprint! Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coral at APORT.RU Thu Mar 22 19:16:53 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 03:16:53 +0300 Subject: HW: Weird #6 Message-ID: > Well..........hardly worth a re-press if you ask me. What a waste of money > for a load of stuff that most of us 'die hards' have heard before! That is why I didn't order it... Alissa From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 22 19:28:45 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:28:45 EST Subject: HW: Weird #6 Message-ID: In a message dated 3/22/01 7:14:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time, mel at MVA.U-NET.COM writes: > Well..........hardly worth a re-press if you ask me. What a waste of money > for a load of stuff that most of us 'die hards' have heard before! > > That's kind of what I was thinking. But then, the Weird Tapes came out in the early 80's, right? Back before the "load of stuff" had been compilated to death. Also another reason I'm semi-disappointed about the content of the Weird CDs. I thought that they would be 'something completely other'. A large chunk of it is stuff I have on other CDs. I mean, how many live versions of Master of the Universe does one really need? Especially if they're all the same versions! If it's a special version, say, that DikMik sang lead on, well, alright. But otherwise, I feel that one live version of a song is pretty much the same as another. Of course, the above doesn't mean I want to sell my copies . . . Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Thu Mar 22 19:34:48 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:34:48 -0000 Subject: HW: footage In-Reply-To: <200103221225.MAA29705@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Anglia TV. I think they broadcast 1 song from each of several acts the following day, don't remember which HW tune. Alasdair On 22 Mar 01, at 12:25, M Holmes wrote: > Michael Crook writes: > > > Good luck with this quest Steve! Maybe the BBC (favorite source I > > reckon) filmed about 'a half hour' (as they did for Silver Machine) so > > that footage could have been used for TOTP if Urban Geurilla had not > > been withdrawn. Of course I hope they filmed the > entire Gig! > > Perhaps they might put you on to somone who could uncover that IoW > > clip with Terry Ollis - that must be part of somthing bigger. I heard > > the BBC won't do an individual research service, but now that the band > > themselves are interested... > > There's also a half hour of tape from the Live Aid gig in Norwich in > 1985. It was one of the local TV stations who got this. > > FoFP > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Mar 22 19:50:48 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:50:48 -0000 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Alasdair Macdonald To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:34 AM Subject: Re: HW: footage > Anglia TV. I think they broadcast 1 song from each of several acts > the following day, don't remember which HW tune. > > Alasdair I wrote to Anglia once to ask about this and they told me that it was not their policy to keep tapes and they had nothing in storage. It was a definitely negative response. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- > On 22 Mar 01, at 12:25, M Holmes wrote: > > > Michael Crook writes: > > > > > Good luck with this quest Steve! Maybe the BBC (favorite source I > > > reckon) filmed about 'a half hour' (as they did for Silver Machine) so > > > that footage could have been used for TOTP if Urban Geurilla had not > > > been withdrawn. Of course I hope they filmed the > entire Gig! > > > Perhaps they might put you on to somone who could uncover that IoW > > > clip with Terry Ollis - that must be part of somthing bigger. I heard > > > the BBC won't do an individual research service, but now that the band > > > themselves are interested... > > > > There's also a half hour of tape from the Live Aid gig in Norwich in > > 1985. It was one of the local TV stations who got this. > > > > FoFP > > > From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Mar 22 19:59:00 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:59:00 -0500 Subject: OFF: Digest Mode & moe. Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 Paul Mather wrote: No, he (and others of similar persuasion) should be forced to sign up to BOC-L in DIGEST mode and have to scroll past the same old repeated messages with a single line of "content" prepended---that is, until he learns to trim his posts. (Either that, or I'm going to have to take a leaf out of Andy Gilham's book and finally figure out how to use something like procmail...:) Cheers, Paul. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Once again Paul, you set (some of) us straight. Could not have said it better my humble self ") Also, The listing of Grateful Dead ten times was to see if I could make Keith vomit ") BTW, I see Gary Davis has 3 reissues by NEU! Here's a more accurate version of my Top 10 beginning with G (in no certain order): Gang Of Four Golden Earring Genesis (before they became three) Jerry Garcia Band Grateful Dead Gov't Mule Peter Gabriel Gamma Grobschnitt Peter Green tied w/ Rory Gallagher Mike C. I recommend: most anything by Farflung everything by The Spacious Mind Sun Dial - Other Way out Omnia Opera - Red Shift anything by DarXtar anything by Mr. Quimby's Beard (and offshoots: see Jerry Kranitz ") King Crimson - Thrakattak Bozio, Levin & Stevens - both releases Liquid Tension Experiment Monster Magnet - Dopes To Infinity Nektar - Journey To The Center Of The Eye Nektar - A Tab In The Ocean Nektar - Recycled Eloy - 1st 4 or 5 releases Miles Davis - Bitches Brew Captain Beyond - S/T (back together and about to tour!) Elektrum: Live At The Opera Alien Planetscapes - Life On Earth Porcupine Tree - Coma Divine (a good place to start) Echolyn - not sure where to start...? Tangle Edge is cool, but I can not track down much. I hear Ship Of Fools is good, but can not track them down. And I have been perpetually looking for DarXtar - Darker. (HELP!) I know some folks on the list don't like PHISH, but "The Siket Disc" is all instrumental ambient space jams. It's only available through their mail order "Dry-Goods". Most all you spacerockers would love it (if you would give it a chance)..... Also, for the BOC fans..... You might enjoy: Blue Oyster Cult S/T Tyranny & Mutation Secret Treaties Spectres Mirrors Cultosaurus Erectus Fire Of Unknown Origin They lost me after that..... If you like DRUMZ..... ...like tribal DRUMZ .... from a drum circle.. Think Grateful Dead - Woodstock type parking lot scene... Mickey Hart has some cool stuff out there with world class drummers from all around the world: Drumming At The Edge Planet Drum Diga Rhythm Band Rhythm Devils is very cool! It's the soundtrack for the movie "Apocalypse Now" Most male potheads love this movie for some reason.... moe. is considered a jamband, but they can go WAY out in trippy, floaty la la land and rip it too. On 10/31/00 they played a flawless Dark Side Of The Moon from beginning to end. I have seen them do Interstellar Overdrive, Godzilla and Don't Fear The Reaper. I have also seen them cover a song by Ween called Voodoo Lady, which started with all members playing drums and percussion and was really cool. And at that same 10/31/00 show they played a 39 minute version of their song called MEAT! No, they are not a heavy metal band and neither is Widespread Panic, but both bands can get pretty intense like Gov't Mule. If you wanna check out some live stuff, I have plenty of crisp DAT masters. PS Les Claypool's Frog Brigade ain't too damn bad either! Shine On! Darrin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Mar 22 20:23:06 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:23:06 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: ; from paul@GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 03:32:27PM -0500 Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 03:32:27PM -0500, Paul Mather wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > => Luckily, no one confiscates your computer and burns it if it > => contracts a virus, even if it temporarily slows down your > => productivity :) > > Actually, you've just hit on an excellent idea there! It sure would get > rid of a lot of Windows machines... >;-) Don't have to burn it; just confiscate it, install a decent OS, and return it. If I recall, the Alexandria Library had a policy like that. Any ship that came in, they'd grab all the books, copy them, and return them. Imagine the RIAA's hysterics if anyone tried that now for CDs... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Mar 22 20:37:49 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:37:49 -0500 Subject: HW: Weird #6 Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:28:45 EST, Joe Loehr wrote: >In a message dated 3/22/01 7:14:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time, >mel at MVA.U-NET.COM writes: >> >> Well..........hardly worth a re-press if you ask me. >> What a waste of money for a load of stuff that most >> of us 'die hards' have heard before! > >That's kind of what I was thinking. But then, the Weird Tapes came >out in the early 80's, right? Back before the "load of stuff" had >been compilated to death. Exactly. I always assumed that the Weird tapes were the main source for much of the Friends&Relations/Anthology/Acid Daze material that came out in the subsequent 5 years or so. I posted a lengthy list of duplications/similarities/differences, at least for volumes 1-5, to the list several months ago; check the archives. I believe that vol.4 (Hawklords live) is the ONLY volume with no previously-released-exact- duplicates on it (but see below...). >I mean, how many live versions of Master of >the Universe does one really need? Me? At least one version by each one of my favorite (pre-79) lineups, and at least one by each subsequent *major* lineup change (with Huw vs. without Huw, Dave vocals vs. Nik vocals vs. Ron vocals, etc.). Or take "Silver Machine" as an example - there are different versions sung by Bob, Lemmy, Dave, Nik AND Ron (did I miss anyone? Alan, maybe?). I need 'em all! >Especially if they're all the same versions! I'm with you on that (BUT, for instance, I NEED the Weird Tapes version of "Spirit of the Age" even though I already have the same version on 'Friends & Relations vol.2' because the Weird version includes the outro that flows into "Sonic Attack"). >If it's a special version, say, that DikMik sang lead on, well, >alright. But otherwise, I feel that one live version of a song >is pretty much the same as another. No way! Take "Quark, Strangeness & Charm" and contrast the Weird/Acid Daze live version with the 'Business Trip' live version. A *completely* differently-arranged song. Or the chugging version of "Urban Guerilla" on (sorry!) 'Yuri Gagarin' vs. the over-the-top-punked-out version on Weird vol.4 (even though the *arrangement* of the song done a year later released as the "Shot Down In The Night" B-side is virtually the same, the outcome is very different because the vocals are Dave instead of Bob, and Huw's lead guitar is added). Or even the differences between the early version of "Psychedelic Warlords" on 'The 1999 Party' and the final studio version recorded a few months later for HotMG. One of the great things about Hawkwind is that they're *always* willing to re-invent their own songs down the line, and NOT just turn out carbon copies of the studio version. The Astoria version of "Levitation" with its lengthy solos and breakdowns is (IMO) a brilliant example. I'll freely admit that multiple live versions of the same song *from the same tour* usually ARE redundant (which prevents Weird vol.4 'Hawklords live' from being completely unique, since there are different recordings of some of the same songs on the Dojo/Griffin 'Hawklords live' CD, but then again, the "power cut" version of "Death Trap" on that CD is still pretty unique!). But even a short amount of time can make a big difference - witness the versions of "Uncle Sam's On Mars" on 'Atomhenge 76'/'Thrilling Adventures', Weird vol.5 (or is it 3?) & 'PXR5'; and THOSE lineups are essentially the same (except for Rudolph being replaced by Ade Shaw). Perhaps this philosophy is not for everyone (perhaps its' just the Kollektor/Kompleatist in me), but *I* say, "bring on the multiple live versions of the same song"! And while you're at it, how about a double CD 'live 77/78' with the entire repertoire of the Calvert/Brock/House/Shaw/King lineup? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Mar 22 20:52:57 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:52:57 -0500 Subject: Top 10 beginning with G In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Right On Darren!! :::-----Original Message----- :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :::Behalf Of Darrin McKeehen :::Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 8:01 PM :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :::Subject: OFF: Top 10 beginning with G ::: ::: :::Grakkl (FAA) ::: :::P.S. I'd actually moved out of the house before I even knew what Terrapin :::Station referred to...not that I hadn't heard enough Dead by :::then to make me :::vomit. ::: :::~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :::better get that gag reflex checked into.... ") ::: :::My top ten non-HW bands that begin with G are: ::: :::Grateful Dead :::Grateful Dead :::Grateful Dead :::Grateful Dead :::Grateful Dead :::Grateful Dead :::Grateful Dead :::Grateful Dead :::Grateful Dead :::Grateful Dead ::: :::The bus came by..... ::: :::....and I got on.....That's where it all began ::: :::There was Cowboy Neal at the wheel..... ::: :::The bus to never ever land ::: :::Gotta go! "That 70's Show" is coming on ::: :::np: ORB Live '93 ::: :::Darrin :::_________________________________________________________________ :::Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ::: From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Mar 22 20:54:08 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:54:08 -0500 Subject: HW: Zones/ FIFTHED/SIXTHED/SEVENTHED In-Reply-To: <000901c0b1b0$2b455b60$5fd0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: :::-----Original Message----- :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :::Behalf Of Michael W Blackman :::Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:40 PM :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :::Subject: Re: HW: Zones/ FIFTHED/SIXTHED/SEVENTHED ::: ::: :::> Acid.........take one tab three times a day after meals. If after two :::weeks :::> reality persists increase dosage accordingly. :::> :::> :::> THERE ARE NO BAD HAWKWIND ALBUMS ::: ::: :::got that straight! ::: Yea but In and Outake is close...... OOPS INNER VOICE.. sorry :) From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Mar 22 21:01:21 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:01:21 -0500 Subject: HW: Weird #6 In-Reply-To: <25.12a6fb2d.27ebf2bd@aol.com> Message-ID: For the Kompleatist they are a must. I have 2 and 4. Just ordered 1 and 3. I love listening to all these live shows. Kind of like having bootlegs, but they cost more, but then again hey are usually of better quality. Fact: 2 and 4 are MUCH better quality than parts of "the collector series" vol 1 and 2. PLUS The artwork ROCKS. BESIDES They support a very hard working musician(s) that just never got the credit he/they deserved...... Mike -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Joe Loehr Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 7:29 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Weird #6 In a message dated 3/22/01 7:14:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time, mel at MVA.U-NET.COM writes: Well..........hardly worth a re-press if you ask me. What a waste of money for a load of stuff that most of us 'die hards' have heard before! That's kind of what I was thinking. But then, the Weird Tapes came out in the early 80's, right? Back before the "load of stuff" had been compilated to death. Also another reason I'm semi-disappointed about the content of the Weird CDs. I thought that they would be 'something completely other'. A large chunk of it is stuff I have on other CDs. I mean, how many live versions of Master of the Universe does one really need? Especially if they're all the same versions! If it's a special version, say, that DikMik sang lead on, well, alright. But otherwise, I feel that one live version of a song is pretty much the same as another. Of course, the above doesn't mean I want to sell my copies . . . Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Mar 22 21:06:45 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:06:45 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: ; from cea@CARLAZ.COM on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 08:42:41AM +0000 Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 08:42:41AM +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > OK. So like with a bad case of flu, first the cow gets sick, then the > cow gets better. Not quite. From a Canadian Government page on the disease (http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hpb/lcdc/osh/fam_e.html): > All affected animals become weakened and debilitated, and > secondary bacterial infections can occur. The most serious > effects of the disease, however, are seen in dairy cattle. Loss > of milk yield, abortion, sterility, chronic mastitis and > chronic lameness occur. Carl: > Everyone is being led along by the nose (or foot, or mouth ;) > without ever asking why. Well, other governments too take it pretty seriously: - Last fall (ie. before the current outbreak began), there was a joint Canadian/American/Mexican Foot and Mouth fire drill: http://www.cfia-acia.agr.ca/english/anima/heasan/simulation/commu_e.shtml - Just about every gov't web site I hit last night while trying to learn something has a "Foot and Mouth" link on its home page; no need to go digging. (Little useful info, as you say, but the fact that *so* many feature it *so* prominently indicates something.) - The University of Guelph is known for its agricultural programs. Do a search on "foot and mouth" from their home page (www.uoguelph.ca), to see how other recent outbreaks have been handled. So, while the reaction may be excessive (I'm not really competent to judge), there's evidence that it's not a case of the British Government's being, all alone in the world, completely over the top. Here's something I found on the UoG site (it's a digest; look for the "Ancient Killer" article): http://www.plant.uoguelph.ca/safefood/archives/animalnet/2000/4-2000/an-04-06-00-01.txt This makes the symptoms sound worse, and the disease more dangerous, than does anything else I've read, but makes airborne spread sound less likely than news reports and other sources do. Go figure. It also says: > the meat is of such a poor condition that it would never find > its way to market. Between that, milk degradation, and sterility, one can see why farmers are scared of it, why countries don't want to import it -- and why that's bad for countries which lose their disease-free status. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Mar 22 21:16:32 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:16:32 -0500 Subject: Canterbury festival In-Reply-To: <200103221543.PAA03959@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from fofp@HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 03:43:47PM +0000 Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 03:43:47PM +0000, M Holmes wrote: > Michael W Blackman writes: > > > I read previously someone said hire an Island > > Fernando Poo! Isn't that some Scandinavian guy's front lawn? (I'm thinking of a moose, and an Abba song...) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Mar 22 21:28:49 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:28:49 -0500 Subject: Canterbury festival In-Reply-To: <20010322211632.K1022@telepres.com> Message-ID: :::> Michael W Blackman writes: :::> :::> > I read previously someone said hire an Island :::> :::> Fernando Poo! I am fnord seeing many more fnords with Bush mega-fnord in the fnord Whitehouse. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 22 21:35:51 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:05:51 +1030 Subject: OFF Message-ID: OK I'll be good from now on ;> ) ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael S. Habiby To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: META: Proper headings in subject line > Hi all > > Gosh I hate to be a pain but could we all go back to toeing the line on > the protocol for the subject lines. Since the server is so smart as to > be able to edit out all the messages a subscriber doesn't want I think > it is just fair and polite to put OFF or HW or BOC in the headers. > > We seem to be missing mostly OFF recently........... > > I am as guilty as the next guy recently too.... > > Thanks in Advance. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Mar 22 21:34:23 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:34:23 -0500 Subject: OFF: (was: Canterbury festival) Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:28:49 -0500, Michael Habiby wrote: > I am seeing many more with Bush in the Whitehouse. Seeing many more of *what?* with Bush in the Whitehouse? From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 22 21:41:02 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:11:02 +1030 Subject: OFF can't get more off than this Message-ID: What - Like the ones on the side of the road - dead? hmmmmm Kangaroo stew ((lots of those around)) Possum pate` sorry - dead pan mode disabled... ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:41 AM Subject: Re: Foot & Mouth > Only eat animals that are already dead. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:43 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Foot & Mouth > > > only eat animals that eat grass. > > > Ha, ha,ha. (sarcasm) > > > > >>> blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM 03/22/01 01:34pm >>> > >> Doug said: > >> > >> > >>> to devastate meat-based farming economies where it hits; just one more > >>> reason why we should all be vegetarians, I suppose ... > >>> > >>> -Doug > >>> ceres at sirius.com > > Bill replied: > >> I'm a vegetarian of sorts - I only eat animals that eat grass....:-) > >> > >> Bill > > Here's an interesting interview with "The Crocodile Hunter" from the April > issue of Scientific American. He explains why he eventually decided not to > become a vegetarian. > > http://www.scientificamerican.com/2001/0401issue/0401scicit3box2.html > > Brian > > > P.S. I'm going to Ireland late this summer. Any reason I should be concerned > about foot and mouth in the South ruining the trip? > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 22 21:43:20 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:13:20 +1030 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: No - not him! Someone else.... and I said hire my island!! any takers - going cheep ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:13 AM Subject: Re: Canterbury festival > Michael W Blackman writes: > > > I read previously someone said hire an Island > > Fernando Poo! > > FoFP > From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Mar 22 21:43:25 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:43:25 -0500 Subject: OFF: (was: Canterbury festival) In-Reply-To: <200103230234.VAA28234@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Seeing more of the fnords man When you are illuminated you see the fnords.... it is the static that the "ruling classes" use in the media to keep the hoy paloy in line... Referencing back to the Fernando Poo comment, which is taken from the Illuminati Trilogy... :::-----Original Message----- :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :::Behalf Of Douglas Pearson :::Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:34 PM :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :::Subject: Re: OFF: (was: Canterbury festival) ::: ::: :::On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:28:49 -0500, Michael Habiby ::: :::wrote: :::> I am seeing many more with Bush in the Whitehouse. ::: :::Seeing many more of *what?* with Bush in the Whitehouse? ::: From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Mar 22 21:44:20 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:44:20 -0500 Subject: OFF: (was: Canterbury festival) In-Reply-To: <200103230234.VAA28234@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: OH I missed the clever point of your responce.. duh.. tired... Mike :::-----Original Message----- :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :::Behalf Of Douglas Pearson :::Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:34 PM :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :::Subject: Re: OFF: (was: Canterbury festival) ::: ::: :::On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:28:49 -0500, Michael Habiby ::: :::wrote: :::> I am seeing many more with Bush in the Whitehouse. ::: :::Seeing many more of *what?* with Bush in the Whitehouse? ::: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 22 21:48:00 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:18:00 +1030 Subject: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post Message-ID: In the book of Cyril it says - "Yeah and the LSD did trip us out and we thought the end was nigh so we all got naked & took a dip in the creek and felt much better - so much so that we began to feast upon many things: chicken pate, lobster, peanut butter sandwiches & those furry little things that taste something like cheese? yea ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:32 AM Subject: Re: OFF..another cheesadelic coleman post > Richard Stockwell writes: > > > > Help! I need to figure which is THE true religion, for the End is surely > > near. > > In Kleinism, there is no End. > > FoFP > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 22 21:49:47 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:19:47 +1030 Subject: OFF: VERY OFF OFF SO OFF NONE-MORE OFF to 11 Message-ID: heretics wheres my lighter ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:45 AM Subject: Re: OFF: VERY OFF OFF SO OFF NONE-MORE OFF to 11 > 3 Cheers to Kleinism!!!!! > > > the answer is FOUND!!!! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 22 22:17:55 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:47:55 +1030 Subject: off political parties Message-ID: same deal here - who to vote for? they are all the same gits with a different brand name same old lies same old smegg ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:34 AM Subject: Re: Foot & Mouth > exactly - who the hell in the UK is there left to vote for in terms of > political parties - christ, we may have the power to vote but honestly what > the hell use is it right now if you don't want he Conservatives Mk 1 (the > real Conservatives), the Conservatives Mark 2 (Labour), the Conservatives > Mark 3 (Liberal), the no-hopers (Scottish/Welsh Nationalists) or the loonies > (practically everyone else including the Green Party) - hell, at least > America had a choice!!!! > Andy Garibaldi. From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Thu Mar 22 22:20:22 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:20:22 -0500 Subject: Sale time Message-ID: From: "Richard Stockwell" > There is a sale currently on at Cranium Music for the next two weeks. Not > much Hawkwind in stock but plenty of other psychedelic, spacerock and > krautrock music for your head. Does Datura have a new album out yet? Their last album is getting more play time here than anything else, but I'm starting to get withdrawal symptoms :) I need another fix soon. Jerry From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 22 22:31:05 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:01:05 +1030 Subject: Canterbury festival Message-ID: Put your false teeth back in man!! 8>B Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Habiby To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Canterbury festival > :::> Michael W Blackman writes: > :::> > :::> > I read previously someone said hire an Island > :::> > :::> Fernando Poo! > > > > I am fnord seeing many more fnords with Bush mega-fnord in the fnord > Whitehouse. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 22 22:32:33 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:02:33 +1030 Subject: OFF: (was: Canterbury festival) Message-ID: This is all some kind of communist code innit?? Dang ruskkies and their new fangled codes...... 8>B ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Habiby To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:13 PM Subject: Re: OFF: (was: Canterbury festival) > Seeing more of the fnords man > > When you are illuminated you see the fnords.... it is the static that the > "ruling classes" use in the media to keep the hoy paloy in line... > > Referencing back to the Fernando Poo comment, which is taken from the > Illuminati Trilogy... > > > > :::-----Original Message----- > :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > :::Behalf Of Douglas Pearson > :::Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:34 PM > :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > :::Subject: Re: OFF: (was: Canterbury festival) > ::: > ::: > :::On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:28:49 -0500, Michael Habiby > ::: > :::wrote: > :::> I am seeing many more with Bush in the Whitehouse. > ::: > :::Seeing many more of *what?* with Bush in the Whitehouse? > ::: > From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Mar 23 02:29:02 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:29:02 -0000 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: Point taken - love and slugs always.xx Sam -----Original Message----- From: mark cotton [mailto:markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: 22 March 2001 17:27 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: top five hawk albums Talking of 'HawkLurv', what about 'Infinity' and 'Zarozinia'? PS Has anybody managed to get hold of any tickets for the Leeds gig yet? Mr C. >From: M Holmes >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: top five hawk albums >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:06:05 GMT > >Sam Kirwan writes: > > > Good point on Alien 4 Layla, Love in Space is in that category too. >Since > > when did Hawkwind do Lovey-Dovey - almost as bad as Sam Fox & Bridgette > > Wishart singing for them. > >KILL The UNBELIEVER!!! > > > Sweet Mistress of Pain (Kissing the Velvet Whip) > > is the closest Hawkwind seriously get to 'Lurve' > >Nah. "Sadness Runs Deep". > > > Sam > >FoFP _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Fri Mar 23 02:45:54 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:45:54 +1200 Subject: Datura/Lamp of the Universe In-Reply-To: <007001c0b348$3246eca0$63a4a918@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: > Does Datura have a new album out yet? Their last album is getting more play time here than anything else, but I'm starting to get withdrawal symptoms > :) I need another fix soon. Jerry do you mean a new album since "Visions for the Celestial" ? Just the two Datura releases so far ..."Allisone" and the one mentioned. However Craig Williamson (Bass player, vocals, writer) has a new CD out under the name Lamp of the Universe called "The Cosmic Union". Very psychedelic. Go to either of the two URL's below and click on "Free MP3's" and there is a full length track (Tantra Asana) from the CD plus there are three other sound samples on the Lamp of the Universe catalogue page. Check it out as its selling like hotcakes and only 500 numbered copies are available. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Mar 23 02:52:23 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:52:23 -0000 Subject: OFF: (was: Canterbury festival) Message-ID: The pitbull is out of the cage.... REPEAT The pitbull is out of the cage. We came in peace for all mankind....shoot to kill, shoot to kill!!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: 23 March 2001 03:33 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: (was: Canterbury festival) This is all some kind of communist code innit?? Dang ruskkies and their new fangled codes...... 8>B ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Habiby To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:13 PM Subject: Re: OFF: (was: Canterbury festival) > Seeing more of the fnords man > > When you are illuminated you see the fnords.... it is the static that the > "ruling classes" use in the media to keep the hoy paloy in line... > > Referencing back to the Fernando Poo comment, which is taken from the > Illuminati Trilogy... > > > > :::-----Original Message----- > :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > :::Behalf Of Douglas Pearson > :::Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:34 PM > :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > :::Subject: Re: OFF: (was: Canterbury festival) > ::: > ::: > :::On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:28:49 -0500, Michael Habiby > ::: > :::wrote: > :::> I am seeing many more with Bush in the Whitehouse. > ::: > :::Seeing many more of *what?* with Bush in the Whitehouse? > ::: > *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Mar 23 03:04:46 2001 From: Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE (Rainer Wangler) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:04:46 +0100 Subject: PINK FAIRIES Message-ID: My information is,the Fairies are played two gigs at this day . Any parts from my tape are the same wich are on the CD. Rainer Jon Jarrett schrieb: > On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Rainer Wangler wrote: > > > I`m sure that Lemmy and Nik played with Pink Fairies but it was at 13 july > 1975 > > Roundhouse. I have 85 min of this gig. > > The gig are also released in parts and called Live at the Roundhouse > > I have the CD of which this album is part... > > > Tracks city kids / do it / free previous from our seconds / the snake / > lucille > > / waiting for my man + / uncle harry`s + / street urchin +/ bye bye johnny + > > /going down +/ > > + this tracks are with lemmy and nik > > And okay, there's a bass player even if it doesn't sound like > Lemmy, but there is certainly no sax on `Waiting for my Man', `Uncle > Harry's Freakout' and `Going Down', all of which are on the CD. If they > did play with this Fairies incarnation, I don't think it was at this > gig. Are you sure it's the same gig as is on the album? Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: Motorhead - _Bomber_ > -- > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > =================================================================== > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Mar 23 03:25:58 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:25:58 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 15.51 -0500 22.3.2001, Paul Mather wrote: >Don't forget the morass of dodgy campaign contributions, either! >I don't recall seeing a single campaign ad that told me what a candidate >was for; they just spent all the time saying what a crummy lot the other >guy is, Ah, yes! Soft money and negative ads -- how could I forget? >Just because you cannot legally vote does not mean you can't be involved >in politics and have a say in who wastes your taxes. There is nothing >stopping you speaking out and influencing those who can vote, or even >affecting those doing the taxes wasting. All we need now is someone worth voting for ;) Meanwhile, vote for louder guitars! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Mar 23 03:44:27 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:44:27 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <20010322210645.J1022@telepres.com> Message-ID: At 21.06 -0500 22.3.2001, Eric Siegerman wrote: >So, while the reaction may be excessive (I'm not really competent >to judge), there's evidence that it's not a case of the British >Government's being, all alone in the world, completely over the >top. I'm perfectly willing to believe that most governments are way over the top ;) I'm certainly not competant to judge what the correct repsonse to the crisis is -- not least because there's so little information about what it is -- which is why my taxes theoretically employ people who are competant. But people have to dig around the net and asking their mates who are vetrinarians simply to find out what the cause of this crisis _is_. We pay for this goverment, so where's our customer service? Can I demand my taxes back when the product doesn't live up to its advertising? But I think what really makes me nervous is not whether the government's policy is right or not, it's that they're saying "We *must* do X! It's the only way!" without any to explanation of why. Rocky economic times, systems collapse, politicians saying "You have do this!"....it's all vaguely worrisome. Whose to stop people putting some madman in power who promises to make the trains run on time ....? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Mar 23 04:59:29 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 03:59:29 -0600 Subject: MORE MOORCOCK Message-ID: I need help!!!! I just got mikes -concerts and rehearsals tape. Does anyone have a track listing for this gem.THANKS STEPHE From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Mar 23 05:52:38 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 04:52:38 -0600 Subject: MOORCOCK Message-ID: Can someone,please tell me what the track list is on MICHAEL MOORCOCK-concerts and rehearsals? THANK YOU STEPHE From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 07:06:40 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:06:40 GMT Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:17:58 -0000 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > As for Herr Schulze, got Irrlicht & Black Dance on vinyl, played neither in > > past 10 years! > ooops- you've got the wrong ones there, my son..... Uh? I reckon Blackdance is one of his best albums. > if yuo want the ultimate > Schulze album in one easy sitting then it has to be either 'Moondawn' or > 'Mirage' or the best of the lot, 'X' - don't like those, then KS is not for > you, old fruit. Copy on that, though some of his more melodic stuff ought to be tried. I'd reccommend Timewind (his top album IMHO), Bodylove and Picture Music. P.S Andy: are the Bodylove albums available on CD now? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 07:09:11 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:09:11 GMT Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A///OFF: G.G.A. -_- In-Reply-To: Michael W Blackman's message of Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:51:05 +1030 Message-ID: Michael W Blackman writes: > > The only thing GG Allin was good for was throwing his shit at the > > audience.Glad I never saw him live!!!!!!!! > I'd imagine there has never been a tribute band then? There was, but they used to throw someone else's shit at the audience. Mike "Our drummer exploded" Holmes From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 07:12:42 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:12:42 GMT Subject: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: I've been meaning for a while to give these bands a spin. My electronic music tastes run to mid-period Tangerine Dream (Rybycon until Hyperborea), Tim Blake, the more melodic stuff of Klaus Schulze, Ian Boddy, Software... What would you folks reccommend? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 07:23:02 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:23:02 GMT Subject: HW-Ghost Of Dave Anderson In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:30:35 -0000 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_015C_01C0B18D.617C1200 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > OK _ for my final one tonight let me tell you about a new release and = > reopen a debate in the process. > Just out on DTK Metronome is a Hawkwind album called 'The Legends = > Collection', part of a series that includes Santana, Jimi Hendrix, Sex = > Gang Children, Elvis Presley (honest- no word of a lie) and loads more. > The Hawk album is a double CD and features: > Gaga/In The Egg/Orgone Accumulator/Wage War/Urban Guerilla/Master Of The = > Universe/Welcome To The Future/Sonic Attack/Silvere Machine/Hurry On = > Sundown/Space/Accumulator/Upside-Down Sonic Attack/Time We Left/Ten = > Seconds Of Forever/Brainstorm/Seven-By-Seven/Master of The = > Universe/Welcome To The Future I.E It's Yuri Gagarin and Space Ritual II with Hurry On Sundown thrown in? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 07:28:30 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:28:30 GMT Subject: HW: Croydon In-Reply-To: Mark Jermy's message of Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:54:52 -0000 Message-ID: Mark Jermy writes: > If anyone wants to meet before the Croydon gig on Sunday- > As Stuart Hamilton suggested, I think The George (17-21 George St, Croydon- > runs between the Drummond shopping centre and East Croydon Station, try > www.multimap.com for a map, and I believe it's a Wetherspoons pub) is a good > place. I guess I'll be there from 6.30ish. I don't know if anyone can > suggest a good way of identifying each other. I don't have a HW T shirt but > I'm 6'2" with brown-blond hair, I'll be with two guys of 6' and 5'11" both > black haired, neither wearing HW T shirts, but all three of us will be > wearing glasses. And drinking from them. I'll be there. I'll wear either the BOC-L shirt or an "Official Woody Creek Tavern Bar Fly" one. Mike "Freak Power" Holmes From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Mar 23 06:37:33 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 07:37:33 EDT Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 23 Mar 2001, at 8:44, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > But I think what really makes me nervous is not whether the > government's policy is right or not, it's that they're saying "We > *must* do X! It's the only way!" without any to explanation of why. I have no idea what the answer is either, but I do know that the disease spreads so quickly that action needs be swift... > > Rocky economic times, systems collapse, politicians saying "You have > do this!"....it's all vaguely worrisome. Whose to stop people putting > some madman in power who promises to make the trains run on time ....? > Or let our kids pray in school--that'll fix everything up for us.. theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 07:44:38 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:44:38 GMT Subject: OFF: was Kev, now Libertarians In-Reply-To: K Henderson's message of Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:49:57 -0500 Message-ID: K Henderson writes: > FoFP responds... > >> Sounds a lot like the (I think it's called) "shortest political > >> quiz" that's floating around on some libertarian website. No > >> matter what your answers to the quiz are, it will tell you that you > >> are (surprise surprise) actually a libertarian, and you never knew > >> it the whole time! > >Weirdly enough I did this years ago when I didn't know there were > >such things as libertarians and it turned out I'd been one the whole > >time. > I have always been confused by libertarianism...I mean, to me, the > idea of a 'libertarian politician' is oxymoronic. In the current political system, that's true to an extent. In a more reasonable system a libertarian politician would just be someone who wanted to organise something and invited folks to join in with effort or funds, rather than the current sort who appropriates your funds whether you want to help or not. The problem is of course that to get from here to there, someone has to dirty their hands by playing the game. > I couldn't imagine > the libertarian platform ever being an important factor in US > politics, 'cause all of the people who might be behind it are the kind > of people (like me) who are so cynical and so apolitical, they would > have zero organization and completely unable to voice a mass opinion. The way that most minor parties succeed is through changing the climate of opinion enough that the major parties see swing votes being avaioable through appropriating parts of their platform. That's pretty much how the Greens have worked. The LP in the US has actually surprised me by succeeding at the local level. Then you have folks who are libertarian but who work through the major parties. Gary Johnson in New Mexixo is doing pretty well to redefine the War on Drugs as a medical rather than a legal problem for example. If you don't want to vote then don't (I attend regularly and scrawl "None of the Above" because I refuse to be labelled "Too apathetic to vote"). However there's always the risk that your vote might just occasionally help the right candidate. Personally I'd vote for Gary Johnson in a heartbeat. > I assume that I'm 'libertarian' at heart as well, but I really have no > idea what the party is truly all about P.J O'Rourke described the US Libertarian Party as "a bunch of math professors arguing about how to privatise the sidewalks". This is neither entirely unfair nor entirely fair. > nor do I care. They do have a > visible champion in Bill Maher though (a guy that is at times quite > funny and insightful, but whose show is nearly always rubbish)...but > my guess is that when he attacks the left, the Republicans go 'Yeah!' > and when he attacks the right, the Dems go 'Yeah!' and neither budges > from their loyalty to one or the other. If you want a fun way to find out about the idea then try P.J.O'Rourke's "Parliament of Whores". I'll buy your copy if you don't guffaw out loud at least a dozen times. On the basic principles side, David Friedman's "The Machinery of Freedom" is a good read, not least because he identifies the difficult problems and admits that libertarians don't have all the answers. This and other books of his convinced me that I'm an anarchocapitalist sort of libertarian (yeah, we have subsects but usually we still buy each other beer. I'm with Doug on the Randians though - I simply just don't get it). > Grakkl (FAA) FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 07:52:33 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:52:33 GMT Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:46:10 +0000 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > At 19.04 +0000 22.3.2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > >exactly - who the hell in the UK is there left to vote for in terms > >of political parties - christ, we may have the power to vote but > >honestly what the hell use is it right now if you don't want he > >Conservatives Mk 1 (the real Conservatives), the Conservatives Mark 2 > >(Labour), the Conservatives Mark 3 (Liberal) That's pretty unfair. The Liberals are now unabashedly socialist. They want to increase tax (though primarily for people other than themselves) and they've hardly seen anything apart from cannabis that they don't want to either ban or make compulsory. > At least the US had a choice. > Yeah, and shot it down in the primaries! The US gave itsself a choice > between between Rich Daddy's Boy Party Hack One and Rich Daddy's Boy > Party Hack Two And both funded primarily by the oil business, with a lot thrown in from the nuclear industry for the supposedly Green One (and he wondered why some would rather vote Nader?) > Unfortunately, UK poltics seems to be headed down exactly the same > road. Labour are pretty hopeless, but the Tories are probably worse, They ought to be stung up for providing no opposition whatsoever to the most authoritarian government in my lifetime. > and who knows what the Lib Dems will do? Like in the States, any real > choice has been lost in a mire of career politicians playing > one-upsmanship party-politics games. Meanwhile, there aren't any > teachers, trains, hospitals, sheep, etc. Just as long as we rely on politicians to provide these, we'll get what we're getting. However there still remains a belief here that somehow our politicians are better than Soviet politicians and that if we put them in charge of something we'll somehow escape queues and shortages. > Cheers, Carl FoFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Mar 23 07:02:08 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:02:08 EDT Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 22 Mar 2001, at 15:51, Paul Mather wrote: > Don't forget the morass of dodgy campaign contributions, either! I'm > pretty much convinced after the last US election that US politics > isn't about winning per se, but about making sure the other guy loses. That's true, but the smart PACs actually give money to BOTH candidates so as to cover all bets. The game is rigged from the git- go... > I don't recall seeing a single campaign ad that told me what a > candidate was for; they just spent all the time saying what a crummy > lot the other guy is, I'd disagree but only a bit. Gore actually did make some policy statements, but Bush said absolutely nothing concrete--no details, just the most broad, nebulous concepts...[and bad ones at that!] theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 08:06:02 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:06:02 GMT Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:22:49 +0000 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > At 16.25 +0000 22.3.2001, M Holmes wrote: > >> Cambridge is indeed bereft of a music scene or any good record shops, > >> but it could be worse. I expect I'll be here a while -- at least to > >> ride out the current/coming economic mess. > > > >So we'll be coming to your retirement party then? Or does anyone really > >believe that a record 54 year inflation will be cured by a couple of > >quarters of low economic growth? > > Well, working on the assumption that the current economic hangover is > largely the result of everyone getting drunk on the internet stuff The real bubble in the US is not the internet one. It's the real estate one. In bubbles the secret is, as always, to follow the money, or credit where a bubble is concerned. The credit has been almost totally created in the government sponsored mortgage companies "Fannie Mae" and Freddie Mac" (no, I'm not making this up). Some of it went into internet stocks, but a lot more went into real estate. >From my reading of things though, that bubble won't burst until us foreigners take our cash out of US bonds and the Dollar starts to collapse through the US trade deficit (an amazing one billion Dollars per day and counting). After that, it'll be interesting to see whether those government sponsored companies carry a guarantee that the taxpayer will bail out their reckless credit spree. As they've sold on the risk to damn near every bank and finance company on the planet though, it won't matter much either way. I remember that at the end of the Tokyo boom in 1989 (yeah, I've been obsessed by manias and crashes for quite some time) they started recycling paper profits from the property bubble into the stocks bubble and paper profits from the stocks bubble into the property bubble. It's more than a little woryying that as Greenspan drops rates in the US, folks are remortgaging and taking out equity to put into stocks at the same time as folks with stock options have been buying expensive properties. I suspect that the US in the next ten years will be what Japan has been in the last ten as a result. > ... the computing industry cycle has historically been a bunch of > years of growth followed by a few years of downturn and shakeout. I > remember trying to get a job after university in the early 90s in the > US, and things haven't gotten anything like that tough yet. So my > guess is that things will continue to get worse and stay worse for a > couple of years and then they'll get better. > Of course, I could be wrong and we're gonna be plunged into the Son > of the Great Depression. In terms of total capitalisation of stocks versus GDP, 2000 produced overvaluation of 2.5 times as much as 1929. Storm's comin'... > Carl FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 08:07:10 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:07:10 GMT Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:34:13 +0000 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > Indeed. This was mid-80s, whether he holds the same views now I don't > know, but I suspect he does- he wrote an effusive introduction to Dworkin's > book 'Intercourse', although I haven't read the book (read the intro in the > bookshop and was thoroughly put off exploring further). Obviously an earlier era. For sure it'd be called "Outercourse" these days. FoFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Mar 23 07:08:01 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:08:01 EDT Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 22 Mar 2001, at 19:46, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Yeah, and shot it down in the primaries! The US gave itsself a choice > between between Rich Daddy's Boy Party Hack One and Rich Daddy's Boy > Party Hack Two, neither of whom were particularly palatable. No wonder > that election turnout tumbled and the results were so close and so > confused. > I agree that the 2 major parties in the US offer little in the way of choice, as our society is so middle-of-the-road. But to compare Al Gore to Bush as spoilt rich kids is way off. The Bushes are Billionaires. Gore is a lifelong politician, the son of another lifelong politician. Gore Sr. made less than 50 grand a year his entire life. Al jr only slightly more. He is not a wealthy person by any means... [well, compared to me he's rich]... theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 08:12:44 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:12:44 GMT Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:29:06 +0000 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > At 12.54 +0000 22.3.2001, M Holmes wrote: > >A country with > >endemic disease loses export markets which adds losses on top of the 20% > >assuming that the local populace doesn't absorb all output. > > Though why the UK exports produce when it doesn't produce enough to > feed itself is equally mysterious to me -- thank heavens I'm no > economist! :) An economist called Ricardo covered that one a while back. Basically he said that even if one country produces absolutely everything cheaper than another country, they'll both get richer if both specialise and trade. It always looks like there has to be some kind of cheating involved, but the math works out. > Since farming is such a tiny part of the UK's economy, > the real damage seems to be to the tourist industry, which just adds > an extra layer of surrealality to the whole thing. That's if the tourists actually stop coming. If they just stay in the towns then there's no reason to suppose they'll just sit in their hotel rooms rather than go out and spend money. Why farmers are treated like royalty pretty much everywhere but Zimbabwe is another mystery, but it's possibly related to national defence and worries about blockades. > And, of course, > farmers don't usually vote Labour, so perhaps that explains the > gov't's haphazard approach to the whole thing ;) You have something there I suspect. > Luckily, no one confiscates your computer and burns it if it > contracts a virus, even if it temporarily slows down your > productivity :) Yet. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 08:15:55 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:15:55 GMT Subject: HW: footage In-Reply-To: Jill Strobridge's message of Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:50:48 -0000 Message-ID: Jill Strobridge writes: > > Anglia TV. I think they broadcast 1 song from each of several acts > > the following day, don't remember which HW tune. > > > > Alasdair > > I wrote to Anglia once to ask about this and they told me that it > was not their policy to keep tapes and they had nothing in storage. > It was a definitely negative response. There's some kind of industry wide agreement to respond to these requests with "We burned the tapes". FoFP From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Mar 23 08:25:37 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:25:37 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carl wrote: > All we need now is someone worth voting for ;) Meanwhile, vote for > louder guitars! In the utopian Cities on Flame With Rock and Roll, Marshall will buoy but Fender control. Vote for Fender "A chicken in every pot and a band in every garage!" Brian > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:cea at carlaz.com > http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 08:23:57 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:23:57 GMT Subject: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Jill Strobridge's message of Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:47:53 -0000 Message-ID: Jill Strobridge writes: > > P.S. I'm going to Ireland late this summer. Any reason I should be > > concerned about foot and mouth in the South ruining the trip? > Some sheep were imported to a Northern Ireland farm from one of the > affected English markets. These turned out to have the virus so all > that could be found were destroyed. However several remained untraced > (at the time, though they might have been located by now). This gets more surreal by the minute. It turns out that in Ireland (and everyone suspects damn near everywhere else in the EU) there's a habit of driving sheep around in the middle of the night called "Bed and Breakfasting" wherein the sheep spend a day as guests at another farm. The reason for this is that EU subsidies are based on numbers of sheep and so farmers are prone to inflate these numbers to reap subsidies. The EU, being wise to this if practically nothing else, send inspectors to count sheep and produce a healthy market in sheep tourism. Needless to say this doesn't help contain sheep-borne disease. The missing 60+ sheep from Jill's above statement are suspected to have been of a kind of sheep tour of Ireland with the EU inspector following them around like a demented Hawkwind fan. Mike "Say that sheep sure looks familiar" Holmes From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 08:31:23 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:31:23 GMT Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:44:27 +0000 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > Rocky economic times, systems collapse, politicians saying "You have > do this!"....it's all vaguely worrisome. Whose to stop people > putting some madman in power who promises to make the trains run on > time ....? Richard Branson? FoFP From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Mar 23 08:34:01 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:34:01 +0000 Subject: Can and Neu - which albums? In-Reply-To: <200103231212.MAA13757@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <200103231212.MAA13757 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >I've been meaning for a while to give these bands a spin. My electronic >music tastes run to mid-period Tangerine Dream (Rybycon until >Hyperborea), Tim Blake, the more melodic stuff of Klaus Schulze, Ian >Boddy, Software... > >What would you folks reccommend? Dunno, never heard either of them, but Can are on TOTP2 on BBC2 tomorrow afternoon at 5:45 -- David Blair From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 08:35:46 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:35:46 GMT Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Ted Jackson's message of Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:08:01 EDT Message-ID: Ted Jackson writes: > On 22 Mar 2001, at 19:46, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > > > Yeah, and shot it down in the primaries! The US gave itsself a choice > > between between Rich Daddy's Boy Party Hack One and Rich Daddy's Boy > > Party Hack Two, neither of whom were particularly palatable. No wonder > > that election turnout tumbled and the results were so close and so > > confused. > > > I agree that the 2 major parties in the US offer little in the way of > choice, as our society is so middle-of-the-road. But to compare Al > Gore to Bush as spoilt rich kids is way off. The Bushes are > Billionaires. Gore is a lifelong politician, the son of another lifelong > politician. Gore Sr. made less than 50 grand a year his entire life. Render unto me a break. When Gore senior was on senate committees it was know that a bill couldn't be considered unless the supplicant attended an auction at his ranch. Fore senior would regularly evince amazement that bulls could be sold for so much. However the real funding for Gore junior's campaign comes from Armand Hammer (I.e oil money) and the Tennessee Valley Authority (I.E nuclear power). Gore was groomed from childhood to be President. > theo FoFP From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Mar 23 09:03:31 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:03:31 +0000 Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival In-Reply-To: <006701c0a99d$f1302dc0$c149893e@jds> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Jill Strobridge wrote: > One thing I did catch in that radio show is the fact that the > Canterbury Festival site is SEVEN MILES from the nearest railway > station and there is no taxi service. (or was that just no taxi > service on Sundays - please tell me it's just Sundays that comment > refers to). My chance of a lift would appear to be blwon. Anyone else succeeding in patching anything together? Hey, let's just hire a Dormobile and do this properly :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: _Church of Hawkwind_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Mar 23 09:06:26 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:06:26 -0500 Subject: OFF: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <200103231323.NAA20074@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Jill Strobridge writes: >> Some sheep were imported to a Northern Ireland farm from one of the >> affected English markets. These turned out to have the virus so all >> that could be found were destroyed. However several remained untraced >> (at the time, though they might have been located by now). Mike Holmes replied: > The missing 60+ sheep from Jill's above statement are suspected to have > been of a kind of sheep tour of Ireland with the EU inspector following > them around like a demented Hawkwind fan. Thanks for the info Jill and Mike. I just read yesterday that there are now one or two confirmed cases in the republic as well. I'll be crossing my fingers for August.... EU Presents SHEEP "No Sheep 'Till.... Tour 2001" Belfast Dublin Cork Limerick Killarney Derry Buy your tickets soon, the buzz is spreading from hoof to mouth. Brian From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 23 09:10:04 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:40:04 +1030 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A///OFF: G.G.A. -_- Message-ID: What the hell did they do before a gig? Eat heaps of mexican or Indian food and sh*t in a bucket?? aaaagaggggghhhhhh Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 10:39 PM Subject: Re: HW: top 10 beginning with A///OFF: G.G.A. -_- > Michael W Blackman writes: > > > > The only thing GG Allin was good for was throwing his shit at the > > > audience.Glad I never saw him live!!!!!!!! > > > I'd imagine there has never been a tribute band then? > > There was, but they used to throw someone else's shit at the audience. > > Mike "Our drummer exploded" Holmes From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Fri Mar 23 09:51:17 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:51:17 +0000 Subject: Can and Neu - which albums? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >In article <200103231212.MAA13757 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes > writes >>I've been meaning for a while to give these bands a spin. My electronic >>music tastes run to mid-period Tangerine Dream (Rybycon until >>Hyperborea), Tim Blake, the more melodic stuff of Klaus Schulze, Ian >>Boddy, Software... >> >>What would you folks reccommend? > >Dunno, never heard either of them, but Can are on TOTP2 on BBC2 tomorrow >afternoon at 5:45 > >-- >David Blair What do you mean you never heard of either of them????? I've got Neu (1st album with a foreword penned by Dave Brock on the back cover) Vinyl LP..............and Neu 2 ( 2nd vinyl LP naturally ). Neu 2 is the best for one 12 minute track only.....'fuerimmer' or Forever in english. The first album though is a bit more consistant in overall quality but very 'chilled......dark.....depressing' if you're in the mood. The 3rd LP was 'Neu 75' (released 1975 of course!!!) But I've never heard this one. I don't know what it is about the Germans but a lot of the progressive music that came from them in the 70's always conjured up images in my imagination of dark,depressing,deserted industrial landscapes and cities..........know what I mean?????? mel From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Mar 23 08:45:01 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:45:01 EDT Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <200103231335.NAA27360@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 23 Mar 2001, at 13:35, M Holmes wrote: > Render unto me a break. When Gore senior was on senate committees it > was know that a bill couldn't be considered unless the supplicant > attended an auction at his ranch. Fore senior would regularly evince > amazement that bulls could be sold for so much. > > However the real funding for Gore junior's campaign comes from Armand > Hammer (I.e oil money) and the Tennessee Valley Authority (I.E nuclear > power). > > Gore was groomed from childhood to be President. > And Bush Lite is supposed to redeem his father's pathetic attempt at leadership. No matter how you cut it, the Bush family is infinitely more wealthy than the Gores. There is no comparison. BTW, Gore Sr. was thrown out of office for opposing the Vietnam war, so apparently the extent of his graft didn't reach as far as you think... theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Fri Mar 23 09:54:33 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:54:33 -0000 Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: Mike asked: >I've been meaning for a while to give these bands a spin. My electronic >music tastes run to mid-period Tangerine Dream (Rybycon until >Hyperborea), Tim Blake, the more melodic stuff of Klaus Schulze, Ian >Boddy, Software... What would you folks reccommend? Well, I can't comment on Neu myself, but am also intrigued. I understand their albums are being re-issued v. soon on CD so I'd appreciate recommendations too. As for Can, I guess my personal faves are "Tago Mago", "Future Days" & "Soon Over Babaluma", but others have their moments, even if they're not quite as consistent (e.g. "Soundtracks" (for the awesome "Mother Sky"), "Ege Bamyasi", "Monster Movie" and even "Saw Delight"). Beware, though. There are a few that should be avoided. These include the dire "Out Of Reach" and also "Can" (aka "Inner Space"). Their re-formation album "Rite Time" was also a huge disappointment IMHO. To be honest, a good bet would probably be to start with "Cannibalism 1", a comp. which I don't have but seem to recall contains many of the truly great Can moments. And then there's always Holger Czukay's solo stuff................ Whilst we're on the subject, anyone here heard the Can BBC sessions or remix CDs (the latter's called "Sacrilege" I think)? If so, opinions welcome from me too. Dave From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 09:54:16 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:54:16 +0000 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: Why don't you all do something really cheesy? Like, all wear a red carnation; or all wear deelie-boppers; or all wear a red shirt; or something equally as daft. Good idea, I thought!!! Layla >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 03/23/01 12:28pm >>> Mark Jermy writes: > If anyone wants to meet before the Croydon gig on Sunday- > As Stuart Hamilton suggested, I think The George (17-21 George St, Croydon- > runs between the Drummond shopping centre and East Croydon Station, try > www.multimap.com for a map, and I believe it's a Wetherspoons pub) is a good > place. I guess I'll be there from 6.30ish. I don't know if anyone can > suggest a good way of identifying each other. I don't have a HW T shirt but > I'm 6'2" with brown-blond hair, I'll be with two guys of 6' and 5'11" both > black haired, neither wearing HW T shirts, but all three of us will be > wearing glasses. And drinking from them. I'll be there. I'll wear either the BOC-L shirt or an "Official Woody Creek Tavern Bar Fly" one. Mike "Freak Power" Holmes From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 10:06:24 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:06:24 GMT Subject: OFF: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Brian Halligan's message of Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:06:26 -0500 Message-ID: Brian Halligan writes: > EU Presents > > SHEEP > > "No Sheep 'Till.... Tour 2001" Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes. Anyway, what rock songs have sheep themes? A Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Sheep (from Pink Floyd) From micci at SCI.FI Fri Mar 23 10:13:32 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:13:32 +0200 Subject: HW:top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: Hi! > Also...Tassavallan Presidentii....I possess Milky Way Moses and its very >poor condition (I got it second hand and i play it a lot) and I want it on >Cd....Also wouldnt mind any other Tassavallan albums....Any one help out >there ? Go to: http://cc.joensuu.fi/~mmerilai/pressa/ Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From micci at SCI.FI Fri Mar 23 10:13:50 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:13:50 +0200 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: Hi! >Mikka mentioned Far east family band.....I used to have Tenkujin (I think >thats what its called) and I,ve been looking for stuff by this lot for >years...Does anyone know where I can find their albums for sale on the net ? >uncounted searches have produced nothing !! Please someone help !...Even any >sites with info about the band would help . Far Out (pre far east..) - far out is reissued, just saw it in record store. Magnificent album. "the Cave" Down To The Earth is great too. I have germany CD, so I think it?s not so hard to find. I also have Germany pressing LP from The Cave. Little bit different than original japan and it?s Shculze mixed! Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From micci at SCI.FI Fri Mar 23 10:13:59 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:13:59 +0200 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: >At 20.58 +0200 21.3.2001, Miikka Wagner wrote: >>No HW yet, but 70% Amorphis. New Am Universe album is great! > >Has the general European release happened, or is it still Finland only? 100% sure. btw. just hear that Amorphis will go to USA. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From micci at SCI.FI Fri Mar 23 10:14:19 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:14:19 +0200 Subject: OFF:Ozric Tentacles Message-ID: Hi! Ozric will arrive in Finland summer! They will play at Imatra Big Band Festival! Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Fri Mar 23 10:24:49 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:24:49 -0500 Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: Here goes... >------Original Message------ >From: David Bottomley >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Sent: March 23, 2001 2:54:33 PM GMT >Subject: Re: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? > >Mike asked: > >>I've been meaning for a while to give these bands a spin. My >>electronic music tastes run to mid-period Tangerine Dream >>(Rybycon until Hyperborea), Tim Blake, the more melodic stuff >>of Klaus Schulze, Ian Boddy, Software... What would you folks >>reccommend? I'm not really sure that I'd call Can "electronic" since virtually everything was done on conventional instruments, I don't think Irmin Schmidt even used synths per se, though I think they did use the odd oscillator here and there. Holger Czukay was in to tape manipulation early on in a "musique concrete" fashion, and there are incidences of "found sound" (e.g. random radio reception) here and there. Jaki Liebezeit would probably paradiddle on your head until your skull cracked if you suggested they'd used drum machines *g* > >Well, I can't comment on Neu myself, but am also intrigued. I >understand their albums are being re-issued v. soon on CD so >I'd appreciate recommendations too. I remember Neu! quite fondly, though I don't actually possess any of their albums... >As for Can, I guess my personal faves are "Tago Mago", For a fan, THE album to have I'd say. >"Future Days" & "Soon Over Babaluma", These two, particularly "Future Days" are the easy way in to Can, much the most approachable material. >but others have their moments, even if they're not quite as >consistent (e.g. "Soundtracks" (for the awesome "Mother Sky"), No arguments there >"Ege Bamyasi", "Monster Movie" and even "Saw Delight"). "Saw Delight" is a bit iffy IMHO, but the other two are stone classics that sit on the right & left hand of the mighty "Tago Mago". IIRC, "Landed" is pretty good too. >Beware, though. There are a few that should be avoided. These >include the dire "Out Of Reach" Dire may be too kind a word... >and also "Can" (aka "Inner Space"). Slightly better, but not much >Their re-formation album "Rite Time" was also a huge >disappointment IMHO. I wasn't impressed enough to buy it! >To be honest, a good bet would probably be to start with >"Cannibalism 1", a comp. which I don't have but seem to recall >contains many of the truly great Can moments. Yes, an excellent compilation that covers the prime UA period of the band very well indeed. >And then there's always Holger Czukay's solo stuff..... A slightly different kettle of fish to Can proper, but I love it... especially "Movies". The first album of soundtrack music by Irmin Schmidt is pretty impressive - a bit more like Can proper. >Whilst we're on the subject, anyone here heard the Can BBC >sessions or remix CDs (the latter's called "Sacrilege" I >think)? If so, opinions welcome from me too. Dunno about the BBC stuff, though if it contains the "OGWT" performance it'll be worth having - tragic that that got faded out on the broadcast! "Sacrilege": some would say that it is; I found it interesting, but maybe a little pointless, since most of the stuff was done direct to two track, limiting the options rather! Hope that helps, Mike. ChrisW From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Mar 23 10:25:39 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:25:39 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <3ABB0301.11144.2E53A4@localhost> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: => > I don't recall seeing a single campaign ad that told me what a => > candidate was for; they just spent all the time saying what a crummy => > lot the other guy is, => => I'd disagree but only a bit. Gore actually did make some policy => statements, but Bush said absolutely nothing concrete--no details, => just the most broad, nebulous concepts...[and bad ones at that!] Yes, but in South-West Virginia there were no presidential campaign ads shown (at least none that I saw), only local and senate ads. I presume that's because SW VA was considered a lock for Bush (as was the whole of VA, really: the only real race was between Allen and Robb for senate), so why spend the money? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 10:37:10 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:37:10 GMT Subject: HW: Croydon In-Reply-To: Layla Thompson's message of Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:54:16 +0000 Message-ID: Layla Thompson writes: > Why don't you all do something really cheesy? Like, all wear a red > carnation; or all wear deelie-boppers; or all wear a red shirt; or > something equally as daft. We could all turn up at the pub naked? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 10:40:27 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:40:27 GMT Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? In-Reply-To: Chris Warburton's message of Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:24:49 -0500 Message-ID: Chris Warburton writes: Thanks. So how are you folks fixed for similar advice on Popol Vuh? FoFP > >As for Can, I guess my personal faves are "Tago Mago", > > For a fan, THE album to have I'd say. > > >"Future Days" & "Soon Over Babaluma", > > These two, particularly "Future Days" are the easy way in to Can, > much the most approachable material. > > >but others have their moments, even if they're not quite as > >consistent (e.g. "Soundtracks" (for the awesome "Mother Sky"), > > No arguments there > > >"Ege Bamyasi", "Monster Movie" and even "Saw Delight"). > > "Saw Delight" is a bit iffy IMHO, but the other two are stone classics that sit on the right & left hand of the mighty "Tago Mago". IIRC, "Landed" is pretty good too. > > >Beware, though. There are a few that should be avoided. These > >include the dire "Out Of Reach" > > Dire may be too kind a word... > > >and also "Can" (aka "Inner Space"). > > Slightly better, but not much > > >Their re-formation album "Rite Time" was also a huge > >disappointment IMHO. > > I wasn't impressed enough to buy it! > > >To be honest, a good bet would probably be to start with > >"Cannibalism 1", a comp. which I don't have but seem to recall > >contains many of the truly great Can moments. > > Yes, an excellent compilation that covers the prime UA period of the band very well indeed. > > >And then there's always Holger Czukay's solo stuff..... > > A slightly different kettle of fish to Can proper, but I love it... especially "Movies". The first album of soundtrack music by Irmin Schmidt is pretty impressive - a bit more like Can proper. > > >Whilst we're on the subject, anyone here heard the Can BBC > >sessions or remix CDs (the latter's called "Sacrilege" I > >think)? If so, opinions welcome from me too. > > Dunno about the BBC stuff, though if it contains the "OGWT" performance it'll be worth having - tragic that that got faded out on the broadcast! "Sacrilege": some would say that it is; I found it interesting, but maybe a little pointless, since most of th> e stuff was done direct to two track, limiting the options rather! > > Hope that helps, Mike. > > ChrisW > From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Mar 23 10:47:58 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:47:58 -0000 Subject: OFF: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: Don't be a sheep....don't be a sheep......bah...bah...bah...bahhhhh!!! Hawkwind (Business Album but I'll be b0lloxed if I can remember the track title! Sam -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] Sent: 23 March 2001 15:06 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Foot & Mouth Brian Halligan writes: > EU Presents > > SHEEP > > "No Sheep 'Till.... Tour 2001" Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes. Anyway, what rock songs have sheep themes? A Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Sheep (from Pink Floyd) *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Mar 23 11:02:00 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:02:00 +0000 Subject: OFF: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <200103231506.PAA10366@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <200103231506.PAA10366 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Brian Halligan writes: > >> EU Presents >> >> SHEEP >> >> "No Sheep 'Till.... Tour 2001" > >Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes. > > >Anyway, what rock songs have sheep themes? > >A Lamb Lies Down on Broadway >Sheep (from Pink Floyd) Weird Al Yankowicz (AC/DC parody) - dirty deeds (Done with sheep) -- David Blair From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 23 11:03:28 2001 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:03:28 EST Subject: OFF: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: Obvious one for this list... I'm On The Lamb (But I Ain't No Sheep!) (B?C) In a message dated 03/23/2001 9:06:34 AM Central Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > Brian Halligan writes: > > > EU Presents > > > > SHEEP > > > > "No Sheep 'Till.... Tour 2001" > > Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes. > > > Anyway, what rock songs have sheep themes? > > A Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Mar 23 11:05:25 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:05:25 +0000 Subject: Can and Neu - which albums? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Melvyn Vincent writes >>In article <200103231212.MAA13757 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes >> writes >>>I've been meaning for a while to give these bands a spin. My electronic >>>music tastes run to mid-period Tangerine Dream (Rybycon until >>>Hyperborea), Tim Blake, the more melodic stuff of Klaus Schulze, Ian >>>Boddy, Software... >>> >>>What would you folks reccommend? >> >>Dunno, never heard either of them, but Can are on TOTP2 on BBC2 tomorrow >>afternoon at 5:45 >> >>-- >>David Blair > >What do you mean you never heard of either of them????? I don't - I said I'd never heard them, not never heard _of_ them. (But I've only ever heard of them cos of some interview where Brock said he quite liked them) -- David Blair From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Mar 23 11:14:19 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:14:19 -0500 Subject: OFF: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <200103231506.PAA10366@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Mike Holmes wrote: > Anyway, what rock songs have sheep themes? > > A Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Sheep (from Pink Floyd) Old old old skool: "Mares eat oats and does eat oats and little lambs eat ivy." Brian -------- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_law1.html From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 11:12:23 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:12:23 +0000 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: Why has there been a fasination with nakedness on this list recently? If you do all go naked, you'll just get arrested and end up missing the gig!! So, that's not such a good idea. (though if that did happen, you could call me and I could come and use your ticket!??) >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 03/23/01 03:37pm >>> Layla Thompson writes: > Why don't you all do something really cheesy? Like, all wear a red > carnation; or all wear deelie-boppers; or all wear a red shirt; or > something equally as daft. We could all turn up at the pub naked? FoFP From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Mar 23 11:13:56 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:13:56 -0600 Subject: OFF: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: I heard a version of acdc-dirty deeds done dirt cheap,but this was dirty deeds done with sheep. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM [mailto:Rocker22 at AOL.COM] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 10:03 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Foot & Mouth Obvious one for this list... I'm On The Lamb (But I Ain't No Sheep!) (B?C) In a message dated 03/23/2001 9:06:34 AM Central Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: Brian Halligan writes: > EU Presents > > SHEEP > > "No Sheep 'Till.... Tour 2001" Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes. Anyway, what rock songs have sheep themes? A Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Sheep (from Pink Floyd) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Mar 23 11:16:20 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:16:20 +0000 Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? In-Reply-To: <200103231540.PAA02975@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In message <200103231540.PAA02975 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Thanks. So how are you folks fixed for similar advice on Popol Vuh? The absolutely essential albums are the 'Aguirre' soundtrack and 'In Den Garten Der Pharaoh' (apologies to all German speakers if I've rendered that incorrectly)- these are mesmeric, almost ritualistic, but always beautiful. There's a double CD available which has all of Pharaoh and some of Aguirre, plus a lengthy Florian Fricke solo piano piece which I personally like although some folks seem not to. Later Vuh is often really just Fricke solo, and while I haven't heard much of it, reviewers tend to compare it unfavourably with the early 70s albums or even dismiss it as New Age fluff. That said, one album I would love to hear is 'Tantric Songs' which sounds fascinating: any comments on that one? Re. Can- agree with much of what's been said: 'Future Days' definitely a good starting point, 'Tago Mago' and 'Ege Bamyasi' less accessible but stand up as all-time greats once you've acquired the taste for them. The live CD is pretty damn great too (think it's called 'Concerts '72-'77', not sure as my copy has no packaging). Of the post-Damo albums my favourite is 'Landed', which is a really underrated album. 'Soon Over Babaluma' is good-ish but a bit overrated IMHO. As for Neu, can't comment, never heard them, like you I feel the need to rectify this soon. -- Nick Medford From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 11:26:00 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:26:00 GMT Subject: OFF: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Sam Kirwan's message of Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:47:58 -0000 Message-ID: Sam Kirwan writes: > Don't be a sheep....don't be a sheep......bah...bah...bah...bahhhhh!!! > Hawkwind (Business Album but I'll be b0lloxed if I can remember the track > title! That's a refrain from the middle of The Camera That Could Lie. Of course Hawkwind's real contribution to this controversial issue is "Burn Me Up". FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 23 11:28:48 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:58:48 +1030 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: Ha ha ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 2:42 AM Subject: Re: HW: Croydon > Why has there been a fasination with nakedness on this list recently? > > If you do all go naked, you'll just get arrested and end up missing the gig!! So, that's not such a good idea. (though if that did happen, you could call me and I could come and use your ticket!??) > > > >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 03/23/01 03:37pm >>> > Layla Thompson writes: > > > Why don't you all do something really cheesy? Like, all wear a red > > carnation; or all wear deelie-boppers; or all wear a red shirt; or > > something equally as daft. > > We could all turn up at the pub naked? > > FoFP > From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Mar 23 11:32:58 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:32:58 -0000 Subject: OFF: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: That it is..... Thank U Sam -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] Sent: 23 March 2001 16:26 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Foot & Mouth Sam Kirwan writes: > Don't be a sheep....don't be a sheep......bah...bah...bah...bahhhhh!!! > Hawkwind (Business Album but I'll be b0lloxed if I can remember the track > title! That's a refrain from the middle of The Camera That Could Lie. Of course Hawkwind's real contribution to this controversial issue is "Burn Me Up". FoFP *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 23 11:43:10 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 03:13:10 +1030 Subject: OFF: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: Good night all - have a sweete tweet smoke me a kipper - I'll be back for XMAS hayoooo Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 2:56 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Foot & Mouth > Sam Kirwan writes: > > > Don't be a sheep....don't be a sheep......bah...bah...bah...bahhhhh!!! > > Hawkwind (Business Album but I'll be b0lloxed if I can remember the track > > title! > > That's a refrain from the middle of The Camera That Could Lie. > > Of course Hawkwind's real contribution to this controversial issue is > "Burn Me Up". > > FoFP From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Fri Mar 23 12:02:59 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:02:59 -0500 Subject: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: The first Neu album ("Neu"--the red and white one) and the third Neu album ("Neu 75"--black and white) are the best ones. The second one, "Neu 2" has a couple of genuine songs, but the rest is just filler, like the same track played backwards, the same track played at 16 speed or 78 speed. This was their vengeance at meeting contractual obligations, so they fleshed out the album with crap. As far as Can goes, seeing what musical artists you listed, I would say your best place to begin is probably with "Future Days" which has more of a dreamy atmosphere about it. After that, the other Can essentials are (in order of importance): "Tago Mago," "Ege Bamyasi," "Soundtracks," and "Monster Movie." Everything released later on in Can's career, although pretty good, is nowhere near the brilliance of these earlier albums. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > I've been meaning for a while to give these bands a spin. My electronic > music tastes run to mid-period Tangerine Dream (Rybycon until > Hyperborea), Tim Blake, the more melodic stuff of Klaus Schulze, Ian > Boddy, Software... > > What would you folks reccommend? > > FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 23 12:09:24 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:09:24 GMT Subject: HW: Croydon In-Reply-To: Michael W Blackman's message of Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:58:48 +1030 Message-ID: > > Why has there been a fasination with nakedness on this list recently? I dunno, but in conjunction to the sheep thing, it's worrying. FoFP From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Mar 23 12:02:08 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:02:08 -0500 Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: Hi there... Well, no great need to post this, as my opinions pretty much match those who have already spoken...but... For Can, yes, of course, the Damo-period "Tago Mago" through "Ege Bamyasi" and "Future Days" is the place to go. And even then, this stuff takes a little while to get used to...or at least it did for me when I first heard some of it back in the early 80s. Damo is great - though just once I'd like to see a lyric sheet containing what he *thinks* he is singing. I do have all the cheap bootleg Neu! CDs that came out years ago, but now (as has been said) the 'real' ones are just appearing. The one to get is the first Neu! (pink on white), and then Neu! '75 (white on black) second. As great as it is to listen to, it's even more amazing to see now (in retrospect) how important the first Neu! album really was, or rather still is. Having only heard it for the first time in 1996, it seemed to foreshadow so much that's happened since, that 90s music didn't really seem all that new anymore. They only really did three albums (the '4th' being a mid-80s hodgepodge), with Rother going off and joining up with Cluster (actually this happened after '2', and '75 was a reunion effort I think) to create Harmonia (still don't have those albums, though 'Sehr Kosmisch' is on that Cleopatra Space Box thingy), and then Dinger (and his brother) formed La Dusseldorf, which was a rather fun little punky-pop outfit based on the Neu!/Kraftwerk motorik motif. "Cha Cha 2000" gets a bit tedious on the second La Dusseldorf called "Viva", so I'd stick to the first self-titled one. They're all available on Captain Trip, again some other extraneous 80s releases attributed to various similar entities. And even more recently there's La? Neu! stuff that essentially solo Dinger I imagine. The live Neu! '72 is also out there, but I've heard disappointing reviews about the sound quality, and never bought one as a result. The first two Kraftwerk's (Kraftwerk 1 and 2) with the green and red road cones are also part of this same experimental/motorik movement, though they are even moreso absent from the marketplace. "Ruckzuck" and "Klingklang" are classics of the genre. Rother and Dinger both appear on '2' I think, just as they were splintering off to form Neu!, so the cross-pollination is evident. 'Ralf and Florian' was next (never found that one), and then the breakthrough 'Autobahn' represents the transition into pleasant humming synth-pop territory. Not bad, but they soon turned into a bit of a parody of themselves IMHO. (Tone Float by Organisation, the pre-Kraftwerk Ralf & Florian band, is also out there in the legitimate marketplace, usu. attributed to Kraftwerk. Not critical to own IMHO.) And then, of course, you all need Faust IV, and now that you can get both on one cheap CD, 'Faust/So Far'. And Cluster's Sowiesoso...absolutely marvelous. Nothing else from Cluster really moves me so much...this one is essential. Grakkl (FAA) From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Mar 23 12:37:31 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:37:31 -0500 Subject: OFF: foot and mouth Message-ID: FOOT-AND-MOUTH BELIEVED TO BE FIRST VIRUS UNABLE TO SPREAD THROUGH MICROSOFT OUTLOOK http://www.satirewire.com/news/0103/outlook.shtml Brian -------- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_law1.html From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Fri Mar 23 12:45:54 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:45:54 -0500 Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: Nick Medford wrote: > In message <200103231540.PAA02975 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes > writes > >Thanks. So how are you folks fixed for similar advice on Popol Vuh? > > Later Vuh is often really just Fricke solo, and while I haven't heard much of > it, reviewers tend to compare it unfavourably with the early 70s albums or > even dismiss it as New Age fluff. "Fluff" is an apt description of "City Raga" and another album on Milan that I'm blanking on the title thereof. However, despite the dodgy title I do like "Sing, For Song Drives The Wolf Away." As for Can, when I wanted to buy my first Can album based on reviews rather than hearing the music, the friendly record store clerk tried desperately to stop me from buying "Monster Movie" as he feared it might turn me off Can forever. His suggestions were "Soon Over Babaluma" or "Landed". However, I insisted on "Monster Movie" due to the title and the cover. It's still my favorite Can album. (-8 However, since the vocalist is only on that album and "1968 Slight Delay" (from the same session as "Monster Movie") and possibly that cassette of the first Can session (can't remember if Malcolm is on that or not), "Monster Movie" is probably not the best starting place. As for Neu, definitely the first album, although you may want to wait until the legitimate release comes out. Definitely stay away from anything past "Neu 75" as those are just poorly recorded rehearsal tapes. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Fri Mar 23 13:01:56 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:01:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: K Henderson wrote: > > The first two Kraftwerk's (Kraftwerk 1 and 2) with the green and red road > cones are also part of this same experimental/motorik movement, though they > are even moreso absent from the marketplace. "Ruckzuck" and "Klingklang" > are classics of the genre. Rother and Dinger both appear on '2' I think, > just as they were splintering off to form Neu!, so the cross-pollination is > evident. Dinger is on the first Kraftwerk album. Rother is not on any Kraftwerk albums. The only recording I know of that has Rother on it is "Truckstop Gondolier" from the German Beat Club TV show which is the trio version of Kraftwerk as Ralf is missing. There are at least two bootleg versions of the early Kraftwerk albums. One version has bonus cuts from the Cologne radio broadcast, the other does not. But the version without the bonus cuts was made from a better vinyl source. The version with bonus cuts has some pretty bad surface noise, especially on the second album. > (Tone Float by Organisation, the pre-Kraftwerk Ralf & > Florian band, is also out there in the legitimate marketplace, usu. > attributed to Kraftwerk. Not critical to own IMHO.) I haven't seen a legitimate CD, but the bootleg I have does have the Beat Club track as a bonus. > And Cluster's Sowiesoso...absolutely > marvelous. Nothing else from Cluster really moves me so much...this one is > essential. The earlier incarnation of Cluster as Kluster (with Conrad Schnitzler) is pretty rough. Not much in the way of melody and German spoken word on top. But Cluster II is wonderful dark electronic music, comparable to Tangerine Dream's _Sorcerer_ or Djam Karet's _Suspension and Displacement_. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Fri Mar 23 13:58:42 2001 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:58:42 -0500 Subject: OFF:Re: Popol - which albums? Message-ID: Hosianna Mantra Sei Still Wisse Ich Bin Letzte Tage Letzte Nachte Although the best way to go might be to see the remake of the movie Nosferatu (Hertzog version) for the brilliant introduction scene/music Jeff From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Mar 23 14:20:56 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:20:56 +0000 Subject: OFF:Re: Popol - which albums? In-Reply-To: <200103231858.NAA06058@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200103231858.NAA06058 at listserv.spc.edu>, Jeff P writes >Hosianna Mantra >Sei Still Wisse Ich Bin >Letzte Tage Letzte Nachte Can someone post English translations of these last 2 titles? Apologies for my ignorance. (second one has something to do with day and night?) -- Nick Medford From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Fri Mar 23 14:20:33 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:20:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: > Mike asked: > > >I've been meaning for a while to give these bands a spin. My electronic > >music tastes run to mid-period Tangerine Dream (Rybycon until > >Hyperborea), Tim Blake, the more melodic stuff of Klaus Schulze, Ian > >Boddy, Software... What would you folks reccommend? Well, if you like Rubycon, an obvious suggestion is the previous album Phaedra. >From the later period, Underwater Sunlight is a lovely album. Hmm, Rubycon through Hyperborea,ehh? Does that include Cyclone? (-8 If Tim Blake's vocals don't put you off his albums, you might want to give Gong a try. On most of the Gong albums that he's on, Tim is credited as High Ti Moonweed or some approximation thereof. (-8 John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Mar 23 14:50:32 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:50:32 -0500 Subject: PINK FAIRIES Message-ID: According to the recently-released Fuz#2 'zine, the last time Hawkwind and the Pink Fairies played together was at the Roundhouse in FEBRUARY, 1975. This would have been the trio Pink Fairies (Wallis/Sanderson/Hunter), while the 'Live at the Roundhouse' reunion album was recorded at the July date by a 5-piece Fairies (Wallis/Rudolph/Sanderson/Hunter/Alder). So presumably, the show w/Nik & Lemmy guesting would've been February. It wouldn't make sense for both Nik & Lemmy to have guested in July, since Lemmy had been kicked out of Hawkwind by then. -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:04:46 +0100, Rainer Wangler wrote: > My information is,the Fairies are played two gigs at this day . >Any parts from my tape are the same wich are on the CD. >Rainer > >Jon Jarrett schrieb: >> On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Rainer Wangler wrote: >> >> > I`m sure that Lemmy and Nik played with Pink Fairies but it was >> > at 13 july 1975 >> > Roundhouse. I have 85 min of this gig. >> > The gig are also released in parts and called Live at the Roundhouse >> >> I have the CD of which this album is part... >> >> > Tracks city kids / do it / free previous from our seconds / >> > the snake / lucille / >> > waiting for my man + / uncle harry`s + / street urchin + / >> > bye bye johnny + /going down +/ >> > + this tracks are with lemmy and nik >> >> And okay, there's a bass player even if it doesn't sound like >> Lemmy, but there is certainly no sax on `Waiting for my Man', `Uncle >> Harry's Freakout' and `Going Down', all of which are on the CD. If they >> did play with this Fairies incarnation, I don't think it was at this >> gig. Are you sure it's the same gig as is on the album? Yours, >> Jon From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Mar 23 14:59:23 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:59:23 -0500 Subject: HW: Calvert Revenge Message-ID: For those who asked, the Calvert disk has the folowing trax: 1}Revenge 2}Fascism/Futurism 3}Bugatti 4}Isadora Track 4 features Simon House From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Mar 23 15:02:43 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:02:43 -0500 Subject: PINK FAIRIES Message-ID: arrrrggghhhh I waz at all those gigs and cant remember a bloody thing !!! hahahahaha !!!!!.... From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Mar 23 15:06:07 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:06:07 -0000 Subject: HW: Calvert Revenge In-Reply-To: <200103231959.OAA06470@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: I've been thinking off buying it. In your honest opinion what is it like?? cheers Colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Rik Rx Sent: 23 March 2001 19:59 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Calvert Revenge For those who asked, the Calvert disk has the folowing trax: 1}Revenge 2}Fascism/Futurism 3}Bugatti 4}Isadora Track 4 features Simon House From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Mar 23 15:12:30 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:12:30 -0500 Subject: OFF:Re: Popol - which albums? Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:20:56 +0000, Nick Medford wrote: >In message <200103231858.NAA06058 at listserv.spc.edu>, Jeff P > writes >>Hosianna Mantra >>Sei Still Wisse Ich Bin >>Letzte Tage Letzte Nachte I concur 100%. These are excellent albums, and a great place to start with Popol Vuh. Tough to go wrong with any of their 70's output, but some of the albums are more "transitional" while others are more "refined". >Can someone post English translations of these last 2 titles? Apologies for >my ignorance. (second one has something to do with day and night?) Last Days, Last Nights -Doug ceres at sirius.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Mar 23 17:10:56 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:10:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet tour dates Message-ID: FYI The Monster Magnet tour dates are up at http://www.monstermagnet.net/ And according to The Cult Homepage: http://www.coastnet.com/~jtaylor/cult.html Monster Magnet will open for The Cult between June 8th and August 4th Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_law1.html From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Mar 23 17:12:29 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:12:29 -0000 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general Message-ID: Hi, For me, the Weird tapes/CDs have some of the best HW material ever on them. I just love 'em to death. At least 4 or 5 of them would fit into by top 20 HW releases. The live 76/77/78 material is astounding. As someone correctly pointed out, the Weirdo tapes were the originals of much of the stuff that has since appeared of numerous compilations, so it's a bit unfair to level that critisism at them. It's just unfortunate that these took so long to see the light of day on CD. Admittedly there's half a dozen songs that you just don't want to buy again (Douglas, Over The Top, Valium, Sundown, Do It etc (due to repetition (not quality))), but these are far outweighed by the other material. I'm no completest, but these are all musts. These and Atomhenge/Thrilling are easily the best releases for years (it's just a shame that the music's 25 years old). Live 73 & 75 material are realistically the only years not represented on HW releases now. Has anyone ever compiled a list of live HW releases (songs and sources) in chronological order? Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Pearson To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:37 AM Subject: Re: HW: Weird #6 > On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:28:45 EST, Joe Loehr wrote: > >In a message dated 3/22/01 7:14:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > >mel at MVA.U-NET.COM writes: > >> > >> Well..........hardly worth a re-press if you ask me. > >> What a waste of money for a load of stuff that most > >> of us 'die hards' have heard before! > > > >That's kind of what I was thinking. But then, the Weird Tapes came > >out in the early 80's, right? Back before the "load of stuff" had > >been compilated to death. > > Exactly. I always assumed that the Weird tapes were the main source for > much of the Friends&Relations/Anthology/Acid Daze material that came out in > the subsequent 5 years or so. I posted a lengthy list of > duplications/similarities/differences, at least for volumes 1-5, to the > list several months ago; check the archives. I believe that vol.4 > (Hawklords live) is the ONLY volume with no previously-released-exact- > duplicates on it (but see below...). > > >I mean, how many live versions of Master of > >the Universe does one really need? > > Me? At least one version by each one of my favorite (pre-79) lineups, and > at least one by each subsequent *major* lineup change (with Huw vs. without > Huw, Dave vocals vs. Nik vocals vs. Ron vocals, etc.). Or take "Silver > Machine" as an example - there are different versions sung by Bob, Lemmy, > Dave, Nik AND Ron (did I miss anyone? Alan, maybe?). I need 'em all! > > >Especially if they're all the same versions! > > I'm with you on that (BUT, for instance, I NEED the Weird Tapes version > of "Spirit of the Age" even though I already have the same version > on 'Friends & Relations vol.2' because the Weird version includes the outro > that flows into "Sonic Attack"). > > >If it's a special version, say, that DikMik sang lead on, well, > >alright. But otherwise, I feel that one live version of a song > >is pretty much the same as another. > > No way! Take "Quark, Strangeness & Charm" and contrast the Weird/Acid Daze > live version with the 'Business Trip' live version. A *completely* > differently-arranged song. Or the chugging version of "Urban Guerilla" on > (sorry!) 'Yuri Gagarin' vs. the over-the-top-punked-out version on Weird > vol.4 (even though the *arrangement* of the song done a year later released > as the "Shot Down In The Night" B-side is virtually the same, the outcome > is very different because the vocals are Dave instead of Bob, and Huw's > lead guitar is added). Or even the differences between the early version > of "Psychedelic Warlords" on 'The 1999 Party' and the final studio version > recorded a few months later for HotMG. One of the great things about > Hawkwind is that they're *always* willing to re-invent their own songs down > the line, and NOT just turn out carbon copies of the studio version. The > Astoria version of "Levitation" with its lengthy solos and breakdowns is > (IMO) a brilliant example. > > I'll freely admit that multiple live versions of the same song *from the > same tour* usually ARE redundant (which prevents Weird vol.4 'Hawklords > live' from being completely unique, since there are different recordings of > some of the same songs on the Dojo/Griffin 'Hawklords live' CD, but then > again, the "power cut" version of "Death Trap" on that CD is still pretty > unique!). But even a short amount of time can make a big difference - > witness the versions of "Uncle Sam's On Mars" on 'Atomhenge 76'/'Thrilling > Adventures', Weird vol.5 (or is it 3?) & 'PXR5'; and THOSE lineups are > essentially the same (except for Rudolph being replaced by Ade Shaw). > > Perhaps this philosophy is not for everyone (perhaps its' just the > Kollektor/Kompleatist in me), but *I* say, "bring on the multiple live > versions of the same song"! And while you're at it, how about a double > CD 'live 77/78' with the entire repertoire of the > Calvert/Brock/House/Shaw/King lineup? > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Fri Mar 23 17:28:50 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:28:50 -0000 Subject: Sort of OT: Sonic Attack Message-ID: I was reading an article on BBC news online today about Hman Variant CJD (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1235000/1235525.stm) and read this paragraph: "Symptoms start with pains in the joints and headaches, and progress to loss of co-ordination, tremor, uncontrollable laughing and dementia." Doesn't this sound like sonic attack? --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 23 18:06:54 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:06:54 EST Subject: HW: Weird #6 Message-ID: In a message dated 3/22/01 8:38:58 PM US Eastern Standard Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > . One of the great things about > Hawkwind is that they're *always* willing to re-invent their own songs down > the line, and NOT just turn out carbon copies of the studio version. I agree. That's sort of what I meant by "special version" (though I didn't have the specific versions you mentioned in mind; I'd forgotten about the Business Trip version of QS&C). If it's a different arrangement, diff (new) solos, or like that, then, OK. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Can BBC CD is just awsome - the 'Bakerloo' improv with Suzuki is simply magical - darned thing's deleted now too, so get around those used shops, ladies and gentlemen. 'Tago Mago' is the ultimate Can album but 'You Doo Right' off Monster Movie is the ultimate Can track. I saw them in concert at a cold and dingy Wolverhampton Civic Hall in '75, I think, and while the place held about 1500+, there were only about 100-150 of us in the sudience spread as best we could in the first few rows. The group came on stage, peered around, clearly thought ' shine on, it's going to be one of those nights' , plugged in and proceeded to play. The first number ended and feedback guitar faded to a halt. There was the briefest of stone-cold silences as the track ended and the band nervously waited for a response. We cheered and clapped and stomped like 1500 at what had been a fantastic opener. The band grinned broadly, swiped up their instruments and proceeded to play one of THE most fantastic 2 hour concerts I've witnesed - they put their heart and soul into every bit and the audience responed accordingly - electrifying just wasn't the word. Awesome stuff. Take my advice and get the video with the box set if you can find one, also. As to Neu, all CD's remastered and a ltd edition box set of them too, all due out very soon. Back to the original electronic point, you could do worse to check out the CDS electronic highlights of 2000 at: www.andygee.dial.pipex.com/synth.htm and see if any of my recommendations grab you. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Warburton" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:24 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? > > >------Original Message------ > >From: David Bottomley > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Sent: March 23, 2001 2:54:33 PM GMT > >Subject: Re: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? > > > >Mike asked: > > > >>I've been meaning for a while to give these bands a spin. My > >>electronic music tastes run to mid-period Tangerine Dream > >>(Rybycon until Hyperborea), Tim Blake, the more melodic stuff > >>of Klaus Schulze, Ian Boddy, Software... What would you folks > >>reccommend? > > I'm not really sure that I'd call Can "electronic" since virtually everything was done on conventional instruments, I don't think Irmin Schmidt even used synths per se, though I think they did use the odd oscillator here and there. Holger Czukay was in to tape manipulation early on in a "musique concrete" fashion, and there are incidences of "found sound" (e.g. random radio reception) here and there. Jaki Liebezeit would probably paradiddle on your head until your skull cracked if you suggested they'd used drum machines *g* From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Mar 23 18:26:08 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:26:08 -0000 Subject: HW: footage Message-ID: ahh - but the BBC claimed not to have had tapes of things that an insider there actually found out they did indeed have, so who's to know the truth - maybe they just don't wabt us poking our grubby little nosess into all of this? Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:50 AM Subject: Re: HW: footage > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alasdair Macdonald > To: > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:34 AM > Subject: Re: HW: footage > > > > Anglia TV. I think they broadcast 1 song from each of several acts > > the following day, don't remember which HW tune. > > > > Alasdair > > I wrote to Anglia once to ask about this and they told me that it > was not their policy to keep tapes and they had nothing in storage. > It was a definitely negative response. > > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > On 22 Mar 01, at 12:25, M Holmes wrote: > > > > > Michael Crook writes: > > > > > > > Good luck with this quest Steve! Maybe the BBC (favorite > source I > > > > reckon) filmed about 'a half hour' (as they did for Silver > Machine) so > > > > that footage could have been used for TOTP if Urban Geurilla > had not > > > > been withdrawn. Of course I hope they filmed the > entire > Gig! > > > > Perhaps they might put you on to somone who could uncover that > IoW > > > > clip with Terry Ollis - that must be part of somthing bigger. > I heard > > > > the BBC won't do an individual research service, but now that > the band > > > > themselves are interested... > > > > > > There's also a half hour of tape from the Live Aid gig in > Norwich in > > > 1985. It was one of the local TV stations who got this. > > > > > > FoFP > > > > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Mar 23 18:30:14 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:30:14 -0000 Subject: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll Message-ID: yes - Body Love albums are on CD. If anyone wants to try his best album from the dodgy '90's then 'In Blau' is a highly underestimated example of being great at a time when you are mostly crap. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: HW: top five hawk albums-part ll > ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > > > As for Herr Schulze, got Irrlicht & Black Dance on vinyl, played neither in > > > past 10 years! > > > ooops- you've got the wrong ones there, my son..... > > Uh? I reckon Blackdance is one of his best albums. > > > if yuo want the ultimate > > Schulze album in one easy sitting then it has to be either 'Moondawn' or > > 'Mirage' or the best of the lot, 'X' - don't like those, then KS is not for > > you, old fruit. > > Copy on that, though some of his more melodic stuff ought to be tried. > I'd reccommend Timewind (his top album IMHO), Bodylove and Picture > Music. > > P.S Andy: are the Bodylove albums available on CD now? > > FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Mar 23 18:36:52 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:36:52 -0000 Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? Message-ID: so give me three good reasons why we don't all just move to France and have done with it. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:06 PM Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Mar 23 18:34:28 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:34:28 -0000 Subject: HW-Ghost Of Dave Anderson Message-ID: thank you - didn't have the time to work it out myself. One actually arrived today (too late - it's been nabbed by Coleman) and each CD insert is completely blank inside (Intentionally), and the 2 CD's are each in their own jewel cases inside a slip case and the sound quality is as bad as it ever was on the ones that are....eerrrrrrr......bad sound quality. Even only ?4.49 for this double bizarrely seems like a rip-off (which of course technically, it is!!!) Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: Re: HW-Ghost Of Dave Anderson > ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_015C_01C0B18D.617C1200 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > OK _ for my final one tonight let me tell you about a new release and = > > reopen a debate in the process. > > Just out on DTK Metronome is a Hawkwind album called 'The Legends = > > Collection', part of a series that includes Santana, Jimi Hendrix, Sex = > > Gang Children, Elvis Presley (honest- no word of a lie) and loads more. > > The Hawk album is a double CD and features: > > Gaga/In The Egg/Orgone Accumulator/Wage War/Urban Guerilla/Master Of The = > > Universe/Welcome To The Future/Sonic Attack/Silvere Machine/Hurry On = > > Sundown/Space/Accumulator/Upside-Down Sonic Attack/Time We Left/Ten = > > Seconds Of Forever/Brainstorm/Seven-By-Seven/Master of The = > > Universe/Welcome To The Future > > I.E It's Yuri Gagarin and Space Ritual II with Hurry On Sundown thrown in? > > FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Mar 23 18:38:37 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:38:37 -0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: now there's a thought - how about Charlie Dimmock as deputy PM? Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:31 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth > Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > > > Rocky economic times, systems collapse, politicians saying "You have > > do this!"....it's all vaguely worrisome. Whose to stop people > > putting some madman in power who promises to make the trains run on > > time ....? > > Richard Branson? > > FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Mar 23 18:43:21 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:43:21 -0000 Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: Popol Vuh; A collection in five albums: Affenstunde Aguirre Wrath Of God (ONLY THE ORIGINAL - none of yer dodgy compilation jobs) Einsjager Und Siebenjager Brude Des Schattens, Sohne Des Lichts Nosferatu Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:40 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? > Chris Warburton writes: > > Thanks. So how are you folks fixed for similar advice on Popol Vuh? > > FoFP > > > >As for Can, I guess my personal faves are "Tago Mago", > > > > For a fan, THE album to have I'd say. > > > > >"Future Days" & "Soon Over Babaluma", > > > > These two, particularly "Future Days" are the easy way in to Can, > > much the most approachable material. > > > > >but others have their moments, even if they're not quite as > > >consistent (e.g. "Soundtracks" (for the awesome "Mother Sky"), > > > > No arguments there > > > > >"Ege Bamyasi", "Monster Movie" and even "Saw Delight"). > > > > "Saw Delight" is a bit iffy IMHO, but the other two are stone classics that sit on the right & left hand of the mighty "Tago Mago". IIRC, "Landed" is pretty good too. > > > > >Beware, though. There are a few that should be avoided. These > > >include the dire "Out Of Reach" > > > > Dire may be too kind a word... > > > > >and also "Can" (aka "Inner Space"). > > > > Slightly better, but not much > > > > >Their re-formation album "Rite Time" was also a huge > > >disappointment IMHO. > > > > I wasn't impressed enough to buy it! > > > > >To be honest, a good bet would probably be to start with > > >"Cannibalism 1", a comp. which I don't have but seem to recall > > >contains many of the truly great Can moments. > > > > Yes, an excellent compilation that covers the prime UA period of the band very well indeed. > > > > >And then there's always Holger Czukay's solo stuff..... > > > > A slightly different kettle of fish to Can proper, but I love it... especially "Movies". The first album of soundtrack music by Irmin Schmidt is pretty impressive - a bit more like Can proper. > > > > >Whilst we're on the subject, anyone here heard the Can BBC > > >sessions or remix CDs (the latter's called "Sacrilege" I > > >think)? If so, opinions welcome from me too. > > > > Dunno about the BBC stuff, though if it contains the "OGWT" performance it'll be worth having - tragic that that got faded out on the broadcast! "Sacrilege": some would say that it is; I found it interesting, but maybe a little pointless, since most of th> e stuff was done direct to two track, limiting the options rather! > > > > Hope that helps, Mike. > > > > ChrisW > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Mar 23 18:40:05 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:40:05 -0000 Subject: OFF: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: the old hit from the '70's, "I get a kick out of ewe"!!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:06 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Foot & Mouth > Brian Halligan writes: > > Anyway, what rock songs have sheep themes? > > A Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Sheep (from Pink Floyd) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Mar 23 18:46:02 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:46:02 -0000 Subject: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: never heard Neu 75????????? You are missing out on the best one!!!! Side two track two - awesome. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melvyn Vincent" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:51 PM Subject: Re: Can and Neu - which albums? > >In article <200103231212.MAA13757 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes > > writes > The 3rd LP was 'Neu 75' (released 1975 of course!!!) But I've never heard > this one. > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Mar 23 18:41:52 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:41:52 -0500 Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:12:42 GMT, M Holmes wrote: >I've been meaning for a while to give these bands a spin. My electronic >music tastes run to mid-period Tangerine Dream (Rybycon until >Hyperborea), Tim Blake, the more melodic stuff of Klaus Schulze, Ian >Boddy, Software... For this type of music, I would check out Harmonia's first album, 'Music von Harmonia', which is a collaboration between folks from Neu and Cluster. More electronic than Neu, more rhythmically propulsive than Cluster. Another excellent Neu spinoff was La Dusseldorf; I'd recommend their first (self-titled) album. >What would you folks reccommend? Keith Henderson and John McIntyre did a great job of covering Can & Neu recommendations. To reiterate, I'd say start with the first and/or third ('Neu! 75') Neu albums, since the second isn't really a complete album. For Can, I'd most strongly recommend 'Tago Mago' or 'Soundtracks' to start, but everything they did for UA (up until about '76, I think) is fantastic. BTW in the latest issue of 'Aural Innovations', I reviewed the recent LP reissue of the cassette of Can's very first rehearsal. And John, since you were asking, the vocalist is not Malcolm Mooney, but someone who preceded him. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Fri Mar 23 19:07:29 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:07:29 -0700 Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: <01cd01c0b3f4$46375f40$811cbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: - so give me three good reasons why we don't all just move to France and have done with it. Andy Garibaldi - Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? 1. Because it's full of French people? :-) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Mar 23 19:10:45 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:10:45 -0500 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:55:42 GMT, M Holmes wrote: >Nick Medford writes: > >> In message , Carl Edlund Anderson > >> >Moorcock would be a bit left-wing, then ... ;) > >> Well he generally styles himself an anarchist and I think the essay >> Doug quoted was in some anarchist journal originally. He has also >> written that the most important thing is to be a feminist first and >> anything else second. He's apparently a big fan of radical feminist >> Andrea Dworkin. > >Bizarre, and more than a little dated. It's kinda weird to hear a writer >making pro-censorship arguments. Can you quote me one of the spots in the essay where he makes pro- censorship arguments? (URL again) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/3998/Moorcock.html I just re-read it and couldn't find anyplace where he comes remotely close to saying that certain books should not be sold or published. He certainly talks about books he doesn't like because of their ideology, but that's hardly the same as advocating censorship. I certainly wouldn't want to see 'Atlas Shrugged' banned, although I find its ideology repugnant (and its "literary" qualities to be less than non-existent). Or, to use a far harsher example, 'Mein Kampf' (does this mean that I've devolved into the standard Internet "reasoning" of comparing everyone you disagree with to Nazis?). At worst, I see MM displaying a sort of smugness along the lines of, "you think you're some kind of left-wing progressive, yet you don't have a clue that your favorite fiction espouses the sort of right-wing ideals that you purport to despise". But there are plenty of people on all sides of the ideological spectrum who embrace conflicting ideas; I see no problem with pointing out the contradictions (or, in some cases, outright hypocrisy) of such an outlook. On the other hand, who am I (or who is anyone else!) to complain if a self-professed pacifist enjoys unwinding by reading Tom Clancy novels (as long as, I suppose, mr./ms. s-p.p. understands the inherent contradiction)? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Fri Mar 23 19:13:48 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:13:48 -0700 Subject: Sort of OT: Sonic Attack In-Reply-To: <011201c0b3e8$a3671400$176aa8c0@alien8.co.uk> Message-ID: Kevin Perry wrote: I was reading an article on BBC news online today about Human Variant CJD (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1235000/1235525.stm) and read this paragraph: "Symptoms start with pains in the joints and headaches, and progress to loss of co-ordination, tremor, uncontrollable laughing and dementia." Doesn't this sound like sonic attack? --- I recall that the ads for the Space Ritual Tour in the Los Angeles Times said listening to Hawkwind would cause permanent brain damage... The Mark L (as corrected by Herr Coolman) From tclark at PETRONET.NET Fri Mar 23 19:34:39 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:34:39 -0600 Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? Message-ID: Vancouver BC has always been my fave...next to Austin, TX. (Turns out Del Dettmar lived there or still does) Austin at one time (maybe still) was a sort of destination with a definite music culture happening...then again, there is always "Christiania" in Copenhagen (gets a bit cold up there, though! ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > so give me three good reasons why we don't all just move to France and have > done with it. > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M Holmes" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:06 PM > Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Mar 23 20:48:37 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:48:37 -0500 Subject: BOC: no, it's not by Patti Message-ID: Review of the recent reissue of the '72 4-song live EP: http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0112/smith.shtml -Doug ceres at sirius.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 23 20:52:56 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:22:56 +1030 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 3:39 AM Subject: Re: HW: Croydon > > > Why has there been a fasination with nakedness on this list recently? > > I dunno, but in conjunction to the sheep thing, it's worrying. > > FoFP > BBBBBAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 23 20:59:55 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:29:55 +1030 Subject: HW: Weird #6 Message-ID: >BESIDES >They support a very hard working musician(s) that just never got the credit >he/they deserved...... >That's what I was thinking about after I wrote the mail. Dave is getting a >good chunk of the money from the Weird CDs, right? I don't mind the cost for >re-tread (so to speak) songs, if Dave & Co. are benefiting. I can go with that! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 23 21:03:05 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:33:05 +1030 Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? Message-ID: Isn't France full of french people not that theres anything wrong with that mind you <> ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 10:06 AM Subject: Re: VERY OFF: good places to live? > so give me three good reasons why we don't all just move to France and have > done with it. > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M Holmes" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:06 PM > Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 23 21:03:50 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:33:50 +1030 Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? Message-ID: birds of a feather ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Licht To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: Re: VERY OFF: good places to live? > - > > so give me three good reasons why we don't all just move to France and have > done with it. > Andy Garibaldi > - > Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? > > > 1. Because it's full of French people? :-) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Mar 23 21:10:44 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:10:44 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <200103231312.NAA14982@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from fofp@HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK on Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 01:12:44PM +0000 Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 01:12:44PM +0000, M Holmes wrote: > That's if the tourists actually stop coming. Which in turn depends on where HW's playing, doesn't it? (Too bad I'll be missing Croydon, but I can't justify a trip to England *every* time...) > Why farmers are treated like royalty pretty much everywhere but Zimbabwe Well, I presume some farmers are treated like royalty even there -- if they happen to satisfy the prejudices of the day. > is another mystery, but it's possibly related to national defence and > worries about blockades. Don't know about other places, but in Canada they're overrepresented in both the federal and provincial parliaments -- rural ridings have significantly fewer people than urban ones, so a rural vote counts for more than an urban one. One of many stupid things that it seems impossible to change, alas. (For the non-Commonwealth'ers, "riding" is our term for an electoral district.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Fri Mar 23 21:22:00 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:22:00 -0500 Subject: HW vinyl search Message-ID: Hey gang, I'm looking to fill a few holes in my Hawkwind vinyl collection, so I'm wondering if anyone might have some spares of the following LP's (hopefully mint condition): Love in Space (double album) It is the Business of the Future.... (double album) Space Bandits (on GWR, not on Roadrunner) Masters of the Universe (the original one from 1977) Thanks, John Majka jmajka2 at home.com http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Mar 23 21:48:48 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:48:48 -0500 Subject: OFF: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <01cf01c0b3f4$47d97680$811cbc3e@s8d3c4>; from andygee@DIAL.PIPEX.COM on Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 11:40:05PM -0000 Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 11:40:05PM -0000, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > the old hit from the '70's, "I get a kick out of ewe"!!!! (Blisters are currently) Big Amongst Sheep The Sheep Cook Up We Goat'ta Get Out of This Place -- by the Animals, woo hoo! Don't Let Me Be Misudderstood We Took The Wrong Sheep Years Ago Goat Willow Sheep of a Thousand Tears Wastelands Of (no) Sheep And there's been much disappearing in smoke of late... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Mar 23 21:55:13 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:55:13 EST Subject: HW: Weirdos in general Message-ID: In a message dated 3/23/01 2:16:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK writes: > As someone correctly pointed out, the Weirdo tapes were the originals of > much of the stuff that has since appeared of numerous compilations, so it's > a bit unfair to level that critisism at them. well, it _is_, since as someone said, the die-hards have about %90 of it already. Then again, some one else pointed out that at least Brock/HW are supposed to get royalties this time, which means that Kollecticism aside, maybe we should all go sell all our "repeat" discs and buy these... > It's just unfortunate that these took so long to see the light of day on CD. > Admittedly there's half a dozen songs that you just don't want to buy again > (Douglas, Over The Top, Valium, Sundown, Do It etc (due to repetition (not > quality))), but these are far outweighed by the other material. > I'm no completest, but these are all musts. Really?? I bought #1 and only about %25 percent was previously heard (not that I have everything) and I thought that was a pretty _high_ percentage compared to a couple other listings i've seen. Chuck From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Sat Mar 24 04:19:55 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 09:19:55 -0000 Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? Message-ID: Damn, I was going to say that......OK 2) how about it's full of Citroen 2CVs. carrying round dodgy cheeses. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mark Licht [mailto:mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM] Sent: 24 March 2001 00:07 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: VERY OFF: good places to live? - so give me three good reasons why we don't all just move to France and have done with it. Andy Garibaldi - Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? 1. Because it's full of French people? :-) *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sat Mar 24 08:21:54 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:21:54 -0000 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general Message-ID: Hi, Well, if your main criteria is to avoid duplication wherever possible then your priority should be: 5,7,4,3,2,1,6 (top priority first). This is only a rough order, I've not compared minutes of duplication. Besides it depends on what you already own (surprisingly enough). Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Rosenberg To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 2:55 AM Subject: Re: HW: Weirdos in general > In a message dated 3/23/01 2:16:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, > Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK writes: > > > As someone correctly pointed out, the Weirdo tapes were the originals of > > much of the stuff that has since appeared of numerous compilations, so it's > > a bit unfair to level that critisism at them. > > well, it _is_, since as someone said, the die-hards have about %90 of it > already. Then again, some one else pointed out that at least Brock/HW are > supposed to get royalties this time, which means that Kollecticism aside, > maybe we should all go sell all our "repeat" discs and buy these... > > > It's just unfortunate that these took so long to see the light of day on > CD. > > Admittedly there's half a dozen songs that you just don't want to buy again > > (Douglas, Over The Top, Valium, Sundown, Do It etc (due to repetition (not > > quality))), but these are far outweighed by the other material. > > I'm no completest, but these are all musts. > > Really?? I bought #1 and only about %25 percent was previously heard (not > that I have everything) and I thought that was a pretty _high_ percentage > compared to a couple other listings i've seen. > Chuck > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Mar 24 05:55:31 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 10:55:31 -0000 Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? Message-ID: thanks alot Arin - always good to be appreciated. Sadly, time doth not allow for this right now, but maybe one day, perhaps. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 4:21 PM Subject: Re: HW:Space rock...What it is ? > On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > > :Subject: Re: HW:Space rock...What it is ? > : > :no - count me out unless you want the discussion group answer to 'War And > :Peace' - I think it would be kinder to the rest of you if I passed on this > :one........... > :Andy Garibaldi. > > [snip query of "what's space rock?"] > > Andy -- I'd be fairly interested in your response. > > I've had nil time to contribute anything of late, but I still enjoy > reading stuff ;-) > > Arin > (mmm, space rock & peace) > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Mar 24 06:12:42 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:12:42 -0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: maybe the band in the '80's (whose name I forget) that did the album 'The Culling Is Coming' got it 15 years too early!!! Maybe it's coming now............the earth fights back!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 7:46 PM Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth > At 19.04 +0000 22.3.2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > >exactly - who the hell in the UK is there left to vote for in terms of > >political parties - christ, we may have the power to vote but honestly what > >the hell use is it right now if you don't want he Conservatives Mk 1 (the > >real Conservatives), the Conservatives Mark 2 (Labour), the Conservatives > >Mark 3 (Liberal), the no-hopers (Scottish/Welsh Nationalists) or the loonies > >(practically everyone else including the Green Party) - hell, at least > >America had a choice!!!! > > Yeah, and shot it down in the primaries! The US gave itsself a choice > between between Rich Daddy's Boy Party Hack One and Rich Daddy's Boy > Party Hack Two, neither of whom were particularly palatable. No > wonder that election turnout tumbled and the results were so close > and so confused. > > Unfortunately, UK poltics seems to be headed down exactly the same > road. Labour are pretty hopeless, but the Tories are probably worse, > and who knows what the Lib Dems will do? Like in the States, any > real choice has been lost in a mire of career politicians playing > one-upsmanship party-politics games. Meanwhile, there aren't any > teachers, trains, hospitals, sheep, etc. > > I would admire the Lib Dems for saying that they think taxes actually > need to be raised -- since the UK does occupy this weird, > disfunctional middle ground between the US's low-tax > low-public-services and Europe's high-tax high-public-services -- > except that I have absolute confidence that they would waste them > just as well as Labour or the Tories. Ah, well, at least they're all > more or less centrists ... > > On the other hand, being a dodgy foreign national, I don't get a say > in who wastes my taxes, though I can vote for American politicians > who will waste someone else's taxes. Go figure ... > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:cea at carlaz.com > http://www.carlaz.com/ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Mar 24 06:17:33 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:17:33 -0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: when someone comes along who cares about people as much as about economics and politics, then we may have someone to vote for. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 8:44 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth > At 21.06 -0500 22.3.2001, Eric Siegerman wrote: > >So, while the reaction may be excessive (I'm not really competent > >to judge), there's evidence that it's not a case of the British > >Government's being, all alone in the world, completely over the > >top. > > I'm perfectly willing to believe that most governments are way over the top ;) > > I'm certainly not competant to judge what the correct repsonse to the > crisis is -- not least because there's so little information about > what it is -- which is why my taxes theoretically employ people who > are competant. But people have to dig around the net and asking their > mates who are vetrinarians simply to find out what the cause of this > crisis _is_. We pay for this goverment, so where's our customer > service? Can I demand my taxes back when the product doesn't live up > to its advertising? > > But I think what really makes me nervous is not whether the > government's policy is right or not, it's that they're saying "We > *must* do X! It's the only way!" without any to explanation of why. > > Rocky economic times, systems collapse, politicians saying "You have > do this!"....it's all vaguely worrisome. Whose to stop people > putting some madman in power who promises to make the trains run on > time ....? > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:cea at carlaz.com > http://www.carlaz.com/ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Mar 24 06:38:32 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:38:32 -0000 Subject: HW: Weird #6 Message-ID: all this works well with a band like Hawkwind, but the subtleties and nuances of having forty versions of Pink Floyd's 'Echoes' on live tapes, is vastly outweighed by the yawn factor. See also: 'Supper's Ready', 'Close to The Edge', etc..... Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Pearson" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:37 AM Subject: Re: HW: Weird #6 > On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:28:45 EST, Joe Loehr wrote: > >In a message dated 3/22/01 7:14:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > >mel at MVA.U-NET.COM writes: > >> > > Me? At least one version by each one of my favorite (pre-79) lineups, and > at least one by each subsequent *major* lineup change (with Huw vs. without > Huw, Dave vocals vs. Nik vocals vs. Ron vocals, etc.). Or take "Silver > Machine" as an example - there are different versions sung by Bob, Lemmy, > Dave, Nik AND Ron (did I miss anyone? Alan, maybe?). I need 'em all! > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Mar 24 07:13:02 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:13:02 -0000 Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: Of the 'new' Neu stuff, the essential trio of albums are: La Neu!-Rembrandt(God Strikes Back)/Year Of The Tiger/Blue and also 1-A Dusseldorf-Fettleber Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Mar 24 09:15:25 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:15:25 +0000 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi In-Reply-To: <200103240010.TAA08586@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200103240010.TAA08586 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:55:42 GMT, M Holmes >wrote: >> >>Bizarre, and more than a little dated. It's kinda weird to hear a writer >>making pro-censorship arguments. > >Can you quote me one of the spots in the essay where he makes pro- >censorship arguments? I'm sure Mike H. will answer for himself, but I think he was referring to MM's endorsement of Dworkin (who is famously pro-censorship) rather than anything in the essay you referenced. >At worst, I see MM displaying a sort of smugness along the lines >of, "you think you're some kind of left-wing progressive, yet you don't >have a clue that your favorite fiction espouses the sort of right-wing >ideals that you purport to despise". Well, I think the problem is in the idea that the political views of an author are the most important thing about his/her writing. I don't buy that at all. It's entirely possible that HP Lovecraft, say, held racist/supremacist views, and it's pretty certain that he was a rather sad and disturbed individual- none of this alters the fact that he wrote some great short stories. It's as simple as that really. My reading of Moorcock's essay is different from yours- he doesn't come right out and say 'look, you shouldn't be reading this stuff', but the implication seems to be there... or maybe I am over-interpreting it. -- Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Mar 24 09:18:03 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:18:03 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <025501c0b46a$bc2ef160$180fbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: In message <025501c0b46a$bc2ef160$180fbc3e at s8d3c4>, ANDREW GARIBALDI writes >maybe the band in the '80's (whose name I forget) that did the album 'The >Culling Is Coming' That would be 23 Skidoo. -- Nick Medford From micci at SCI.FI Sat Mar 24 09:35:56 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:35:56 +0200 Subject: HW vinyl search Message-ID: Hi! >I'm looking to fill a few holes in my Hawkwind vinyl collection, so I'm >wondering if anyone might have some spares of the following LP's (hopefully >mint condition): > Space Bandits (on GWR, not on Roadrunner) Just curious, is there any differenses? I have rr (holland) pressing. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Mar 24 10:31:22 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 10:31:22 -0500 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Nick Medford wrote: => Well, I think the problem is in the idea that the political views of an author => are the most important thing about his/her writing. I don't buy that at all. => It's entirely possible that HP Lovecraft, say, held racist/supremacist views, => and it's pretty certain that he was a rather sad and disturbed individual- => none of this alters the fact that he wrote some great short stories. It's as => simple as that really. I agree. It's kind of like the old thread of our favourite musicians oftentimes being tossers in person, but that doesn't stop them from putting on a blinder of a show. We should also remember that people and their views change over time. In the case of Lovecraft, for example, he'd pretty much done a 180 on all that right-wing stuff by the end of his life, and was actually a bit of a lefty! So to say "Lovecraft believes in X," or "Lovecraft is an X," should probably be qualified in time. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Mar 24 10:40:30 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 10:40:30 -0500 Subject: HW: Weird #6 In-Reply-To: <025b01c0b46a$c1384f80$180fbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: => all this works well with a band like Hawkwind, but the subtleties and => nuances of having forty versions of Pink Floyd's 'Echoes' on live tapes, is => vastly outweighed by the yawn factor. See also: 'Supper's Ready', 'Close to => The Edge', etc..... I disagree. Someone recently compiled a collection of as many covers they could find of the tune "Afro Blue" done to this date by Gov't Mule. ("Afro Blue" was popularised by John Coltrane.) It's something like 7 or 8 CDs. It's great to hear the different takes on the song, varying between acoustic and electric; various guests; various lengths: different interpretations. It's a really popular set doing the rounds right now. I agree it would be fairly uninteresting if a band pretty much played the same song the same arrangement every time. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Mar 24 12:02:51 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:02:51 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <200103231331.NAA24308@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 13.31 +0000 23.3.2001, M Holmes wrote: >Carl Edlund Anderson writes: >> Rocky economic times, systems collapse, politicians saying "You have >> do this!"....it's all vaguely worrisome. Whose to stop people >> putting some madman in power who promises to make the trains run on >> time ....? > >Richard Branson? Nah, the Virgin trains were pretty bad to begin with! Though I've had good success with the airline :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sat Mar 24 12:10:23 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:10:23 +0000 Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: <01cd01c0b3f4$46375f40$811cbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: >so give me three good reasons why we don't all just move to France and have >done with it. I'm not going through that work permit business again anytime soon! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sat Mar 24 12:01:54 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:01:54 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 08.25 -0500 23.3.2001, Brian Halligan wrote: >Vote for Fender >"A chicken in every pot and a band in every garage!" A good slogan, but my vote goes to Gibson :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sat Mar 24 12:13:46 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:13:46 +0000 Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D904AAA5DE@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: At 09.19 +0000 24.3.2001, Sam Kirwan wrote: >Damn, I was going to say that......OK 2) how about it's full of Citroen >2CVs. carrying round dodgy cheeses. But very fine cider and pastries :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sat Mar 24 12:12:07 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:12:07 +0000 Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? In-Reply-To: <3ABBEB9E.9A983631@petronet.net> Message-ID: At 18.34 -0600 23.3.2001, Tom Clark wrote: >then again, there >is always "Christiania" in Copenhagen (gets a bit cold up there, though! Nah, Denmark doesn't get particularly cold. Considerably milder winters than in New England, that's for sure! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Mar 24 13:07:23 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:07:23 EST Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven Message-ID: Hello, Mike Coleman wishes to express that his hard drive has been removed (technical mumbo jumbo removed) and he will be giving us a break for a bit. I am relating his own words here and I guess his computer (like mine) is pining for silicon heaven. Any hot urgent messages needed to go to Mikey can be sent to me and I will make sure he gets them. bob From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 24 14:21:21 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:21:21 -0000 Subject: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: CAN -Tago Mago Neu - Neu 1 For an entertaining read get yer mitts on Julian Cope's Krautrocksampler. Dave -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 23 March 2001 12:12 Subject: Can and Neu - which albums? >I've been meaning for a while to give these bands a spin. My electronic >music tastes run to mid-period Tangerine Dream (Rybycon until >Hyperborea), Tim Blake, the more melodic stuff of Klaus Schulze, Ian >Boddy, Software... > >What would you folks reccommend? > >FoFP > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 24 14:27:43 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:27:43 -0000 Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? (Popol Vuh) Message-ID: Blimey, Where do you start - PV-rerelease hell. Andy G should put something together on this lot. Personal faves - Aguirre CD and Nosferatu (both soundtracks). Aguirre, brilliant film, brilliant....Klaus Kinski, barking mad. Dave -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 23 March 2001 15:40 Subject: Re: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? >Chris Warburton writes: > >Thanks. So how are you folks fixed for similar advice on Popol Vuh? > >FoFP > >> >As for Can, I guess my personal faves are "Tago Mago", >> >> For a fan, THE album to have I'd say. >> >> >"Future Days" & "Soon Over Babaluma", >> >> These two, particularly "Future Days" are the easy way in to Can, >> much the most approachable material. >> >> >but others have their moments, even if they're not quite as >> >consistent (e.g. "Soundtracks" (for the awesome "Mother Sky"), >> >> No arguments there >> >> >"Ege Bamyasi", "Monster Movie" and even "Saw Delight"). >> >> "Saw Delight" is a bit iffy IMHO, but the other two are stone classics that sit on the right & left hand of the mighty "Tago Mago". IIRC, "Landed" is pretty good too. >> >> >Beware, though. There are a few that should be avoided. These >> >include the dire "Out Of Reach" >> >> Dire may be too kind a word... >> >> >and also "Can" (aka "Inner Space"). >> >> Slightly better, but not much >> >> >Their re-formation album "Rite Time" was also a huge >> >disappointment IMHO. >> >> I wasn't impressed enough to buy it! >> >> >To be honest, a good bet would probably be to start with >> >"Cannibalism 1", a comp. which I don't have but seem to recall >> >contains many of the truly great Can moments. >> >> Yes, an excellent compilation that covers the prime UA period of the band very well indeed. >> >> >And then there's always Holger Czukay's solo stuff..... >> >> A slightly different kettle of fish to Can proper, but I love it... especially "Movies". The first album of soundtrack music by Irmin Schmidt is pretty impressive - a bit more like Can proper. >> >> >Whilst we're on the subject, anyone here heard the Can BBC >> >sessions or remix CDs (the latter's called "Sacrilege" I >> >think)? If so, opinions welcome from me too. >> >> Dunno about the BBC stuff, though if it contains the "OGWT" performance it'll be worth having - tragic that that got faded out on the broadcast! "Sacrilege": some would say that it is; I found it interesting, but maybe a little pointless, since most of th> e stuff was done direct to two track, limiting the options rather! >> >> Hope that helps, Mike. >> >> ChrisW >> > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 24 14:29:04 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:29:04 -0000 Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? Message-ID: I agree spot on. >The absolutely essential albums are the 'Aguirre' soundtrack and 'In Den >Garten Der Pharaoh' (apologies to all German speakers if I've rendered that >incorrectly)- these are mesmeric, almost ritualistic, but always beautiful. >There's a double CD available which has all of Pharaoh and some of >Aguirre, plus a lengthy Florian Fricke solo piano piece which I personally >like although some folks seem not to. > >Later Vuh is often really just Fricke solo, and while I haven't heard much of >it, reviewers tend to compare it unfavourably with the early 70s albums or >even dismiss it as New Age fluff. That said, one album I would love to hear >is 'Tantric Songs' which sounds fascinating: any comments on that one? > >Re. Can- agree with much of what's been said: 'Future Days' definitely a >good starting point, 'Tago Mago' and 'Ege Bamyasi' less accessible but stand >up as all-time greats once you've acquired the taste for them. The live CD is >pretty damn great too (think it's called 'Concerts '72-'77', not sure as my >copy has no packaging). Of the post-Damo albums my favourite is 'Landed', >which is a really underrated album. 'Soon Over Babaluma' is good-ish but a >bit overrated IMHO. > >As for Neu, can't comment, never heard them, like you I feel the need to >rectify this soon. >-- >Nick Medford > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 24 14:32:18 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:32:18 -0000 Subject: Sort of OT: Sonic Attack Message-ID: An unpleasant way to go - a colleague of mine died a year or so ago from it. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Perry To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 23 March 2001 22:20 Subject: Sort of OT: Sonic Attack >I was reading an article on BBC news online today about Hman Variant CJD >(http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1235000/1235525.stm) and read >this paragraph: > >"Symptoms start with pains in the joints and headaches, and progress to loss >of co-ordination, tremor, uncontrollable laughing and dementia." > >Doesn't this sound like sonic attack? > >--- >Kevin Perry >Sonic Energy Authority >http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > >"It is the business of the future to be dangerous; >and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its >duties." > From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Mar 24 14:50:01 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:50:01 -0500 Subject: OFF: Glenn Hughes Message-ID: Hey Now! My friend Jon posted this to another list and I thought some of you folks would be intersted..... Anyone that gets a good recording, please LMK ") "In for the kill!" Peace, Darrin np: moe: 2/22/01 I master ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I saw Glenn Hughes ("the god of voice") last night in NJ and was blown away by the show; great stripped-down 3 piece band, set list covering everything from his TRAPEZE days to DEEP PURPLE to THRALL/HUGHES to solo albums. That guy's voice is superhuman, I urge ya to check him out! According to his website, http://www.glennhughes.com these are the confirmed dates on the tour: USA March 22 - The Birch Hill, Old Bridge, NJ March 23 - Jaxx, Springfield, VA March 24 - The Voodoo Lounge, Queens, NY Europe May 28 - Bloodstock Festival, Derby, UK May 29 - Astor Theatre, Deal (Kent), UK May 31 - De Kade, Zaandam, The Netherlands June 1 - Biebob, Vosselaar, Belgium June 2 - Podium, Hardenberg, The Netherlands June 3 - Plato, Helmond, The Netherlands June 6 - Proxima, Warsaw, Poland June 8 - Sweden Rock Festival, S?lvesborg, Sweden June 9 - Nostori, Helsinki, Finland _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 24 14:41:47 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:41:47 -0000 Subject: HW: The printed word Message-ID: I was browsing in bookshop today and came across a couple of things. "On the road with David Bowie" details the Lodger tour which featured Simon House...one or two nice photos of Simon. One classic scene is described Simon, Bowie, and others listening to tapes of Dire Straits and Hawkwind. Bowie (on Hawkwind) "I haven't heard them for ages" ...and makes off with the tape! Simon Napier Bell's book describes Hawkwind as half hippy half punk. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From novadrive at HOME.COM Sat Mar 24 16:42:27 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:42:27 -0700 Subject: HW: Weird #6 In-Reply-To: <025b01c0b46a$c1384f80$180fbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Agreed! Now, I like Yes, and have seen them a few times, but if you were to do a listening test between the version of 'Close To The Edge' (or 'Roundabout' or 'Starship Trooper' or 'The Gates of Delirium' or....) that they played on their 2000 Masterworks tour, and any version of these songs since '72 (or '71 or '75 or...) I would be hard-pressed to tell the difference. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 4:39 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Weird #6 all this works well with a band like Hawkwind, but the subtleties and nuances of having forty versions of Pink Floyd's 'Echoes' on live tapes, is vastly outweighed by the yawn factor. See also: 'Supper's Ready', 'Close to The Edge', etc..... Andy Garibaldi > From novadrive at HOME.COM Sat Mar 24 16:45:34 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:45:34 -0700 Subject: HW: Weird #6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've thought of (and actually started) a variation of this idea: A CD-R set of a version of 'Brainstorm' from every year since '72 (I think '98 is the only year that will have to be skipped), and they are all VERY different. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Paul Mather Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:40 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Weird #6 On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: => all this works well with a band like Hawkwind, but the subtleties and => nuances of having forty versions of Pink Floyd's 'Echoes' on live tapes, is => vastly outweighed by the yawn factor. See also: 'Supper's Ready', 'Close to => The Edge', etc..... I disagree. Someone recently compiled a collection of as many covers they could find of the tune "Afro Blue" done to this date by Gov't Mule. ("Afro Blue" was popularised by John Coltrane.) It's something like 7 or 8 CDs. It's great to hear the different takes on the song, varying between acoustic and electric; various guests; various lengths: different interpretations. It's a really popular set doing the rounds right now. I agree it would be fairly uninteresting if a band pretty much played the same song the same arrangement every time. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Mar 24 18:14:50 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 18:14:50 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Reminder Message-ID: ...the reminder thing again... BEWARE... (drums of doom)... "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" (looks so much more _important_ w/the quotes, eh?) will broadcast this evening @ 5pm PST!! You've got to be there... The Web-Radio info ya need: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm (sometimes 8) PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck From rdc at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Mar 24 20:19:43 2001 From: rdc at NTLWORLD.COM (Richard Crossley) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:19:43 +0100 Subject: Neu In-Reply-To: <4f.93b7b6c.27ee846a@aol.com> Message-ID: I have to tell someone ! Just heard Neu Negativeland for the first time and this is amazing. Sort off early HW, jamming with joy division perhaps, wonderful. The Heineken Export fuelled one. From rdc at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Mar 24 20:22:15 2001 From: rdc at NTLWORLD.COM (Richard Crossley) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:22:15 +0100 Subject: "Space Does Not Care" Reminder In-Reply-To: <4f.93b7b6c.27ee846a@aol.com> Message-ID: How about times in GMT instead, my maths never works out and miss half the show ! > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Chuck Rosenberg > Sent: 24 March 2001 23:15 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Reminder > > > ...the reminder thing again... > > BEWARE... (drums of doom)... "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" (looks so much more > _important_ w/the quotes, eh?) will broadcast this evening @ 5pm > PST!! You've > got to be there... > The Web-Radio info ya need: > > "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm > (sometimes 8) PST on > 88.3fm KUCR. > TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html > For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing > list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck > From christmu at EUNET.NO Sat Mar 24 20:31:49 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 03:31:49 +0200 Subject: OFF: Slaughtering monks Message-ID: I know this is off topic, but does anybody know where on the net I can find the famous Viet Nam war pic of the guy getting his brains blown out? cheers, Chr. ObCD: Voivod - Rrrrroooooaaaaarrrr From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Mar 25 01:20:20 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:20:20 -0500 Subject: OFF: Glenn Hughes Message-ID: Darrin reposted... >I saw Glenn Hughes ("the god of voice") last night in NJ and was blown away >by the show; great stripped-down 3 piece band, set list covering everything >from his TRAPEZE days to DEEP PURPLE to THRALL/HUGHES to solo albums. > >That guy's voice is superhuman, I urge ya to check him out! I think Medusa, the second Trapeze album with pre-Deep Purple Hughes, pre-Whitesnake Galley, and pre-Judas Priest Holland is absolutely brilliant. Been one of my favourites for years. Everything that Hughes has done since (which is virtually everything, period) I couldn't really care about. I dunno, his voice sounds great on Medusa, but from Deep Purple on, he sounds pinched and screechy. Although now that I think about it, he appeared on that pretty good Iommi solo album that passed for a Black Sabbath album, Seventh Star or something. He sounded ok on that one. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. The Glenn Hughes that died a week ago was the guy from the Village People, not this one. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Mar 25 01:50:00 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:50:00 -0500 Subject: OFF: Amorphis US minitour Message-ID: Hi Folks... Found these on the Relapse site... April 6 Asbury Park, NJ Metal Meltdown III April 7 Toronto, CAN Kathedral Room April 8 Montreal, CAN Fou-Founes April 10 Springfield, VA Jaxx April 11 Detroit, MI I-Rock April 12 Chicago, IL House Of Blues April 13 Cleveland, OH Agora Ballroom April 14 Worchester, MA Palladium (Metalfest) Unfortunately, the close date (4/13) conflicts with Quarkspace here in town. Oh, well... Grakkl (FAA) From mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET Sun Mar 25 05:50:29 2001 From: mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET (Mark Robertson) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:50:29 +0100 Subject: OFF: Slaughtering monks Message-ID: Go here for a low res version and details of the shot (sic) http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/museums/images/pgallery/gallery5.htm If you need it bigger I've a copy I could scan in for you. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "christmu at eunet.no" To: Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 2:31 AM Subject: OFF: Slaughtering monks > I know this is off topic, but does anybody know where on the net I can find > the famous Viet Nam war pic of the guy getting his brains blown out? > > cheers, > Chr. > > ObCD: Voivod - Rrrrroooooaaaaarrrr From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Mar 25 07:59:05 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 07:59:05 EST Subject: OFF: 'Slaughtering' monks ? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/25/01 5:52:18 AM, mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET writes: << the famous Viet Nam war pic of the guy getting his brains blown out? >> ====== ...the one of that general{?} casually executing a VC{?} head shot at close range? he werent no monk; those wacky monks were into self-immolation, not getting a cap in the head. and that had more to do w/the early '60s than the vietnam conflict. anyway, there was no 'slaughtering' of monks in the vietnam war era. why do you seek such a picture anyway? "<>" From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Mar 25 07:58:58 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:58:58 +0100 Subject: CROYDON NOW! Message-ID: Got our shit together and leaving for Croydon now!. For all star warriors attending tonight's PSYCHADELIC soir?e lets make it a good one. See you there...... GARY & ANNA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Mar 25 08:27:26 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:27:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird #6 Message-ID: I agree with you there - not quite the point I was making - I agree that there are a lot of bands who can play a track from one year to the next and inject something new in there every time, but equally there are the examples I mentioned that surely must be so mundane even to the committed fan, as tracks, although for each band I am sure there are other tracks that may have changed, although with the compositional stritjacket that is the 'prog-rock' genre, they must be few and far between. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mather" To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 4:40 PM Subject: Re: HW: Weird #6 > On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > > => all this works well with a band like Hawkwind, but the subtleties and > => nuances of having forty versions of Pink Floyd's 'Echoes' on live tapes, is > => vastly outweighed by the yawn factor. See also: 'Supper's Ready', 'Close to > => The Edge', etc..... > > I disagree. Someone recently compiled a collection of as many covers > they could find of the tune "Afro Blue" done to this date by Gov't Mule. > ("Afro Blue" was popularised by John Coltrane.) It's something like 7 > or 8 CDs. It's great to hear the different takes on the song, varying > between acoustic and electric; various guests; various lengths: > different interpretations. It's a really popular set doing the rounds > right now. > > I agree it would be fairly uninteresting if a band pretty much played > the same song the same arrangement every time. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa From novadrive at HOME.COM Sun Mar 25 17:50:48 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:50:48 -0700 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight Wanting Infiltration and Nocturnal Destruction Message-ID: Just when you thought all the marvelous uses of the Internet were exhausted: http://www.brunching.com/toys/toy-cyborger.html KevinSommers From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Mar 25 18:00:10 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:00:10 EST Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight Wanting Infiltration... Message-ID: o.k. here's what Bob means: Being Optimized for Battle you're right kevin, or: Kinetic Electronic Violence and Infiltration Neohuman the uses of the internet haven't been exhausted. so there In a message dated 3/25/01 2:53:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, novadrive at HOME.COM writes: > Just when you thought all the marvelous uses of the Internet were exhausted: > http://www.brunching.com/toys/toy-cyborger.html > > KevinSommers Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sun Mar 25 18:50:25 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:50:25 +0100 Subject: First with Croydon report Message-ID: I'm going to kill the sound engineer if I ever get my hands on him. Much as I love Alan's playing, being able to hear that to the virtual exclusion of all else for most of the gig is somewhat frustrating - Dave's guitar was inaudible and Jerry's was most of the time. Technical hitch (what did happen to Richard?) was unfortunate, but the version of High Rise they pulled off was good, followed by some great Space Ritual poetry ad hoc from Ron - I still think they could do without him (especially since they had up to 10 people on-stage tonight at some point...), but he's getting better each gig I see him. If he just concentrated on the Calvert stuff, I think I'd enjoy seeing him full-time. Getting back to Croydon...I can't recall the entire set-list, but there was definitely (and in probably the wrong order too): Assault & Battery/Golden Void (crap mix) ? - off In Your Area - recognised it but forget name (even crapper mix) Hippy (getting better) Space Is Deep Flying Doctor (good) High Rise Angels Of Death Better Believe It (high poiunt for me) Hassan I Sahba Spirit Of The Age Spiral Galaxy Motorway City Hurry On Sundown --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK Sun Mar 25 19:02:10 2001 From: sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:02:10 +0100 Subject: Croydon Show Message-ID: Just back. Cool show. Very relax. Everybody seemed to be enjoying themselves. Complete cock-up of High Rise. But they laughed it off. Dave seemed to be taking the micky out of everybody, especially Simon. Line-Up: Dave, Ron, Richard, Alan, Jerry, Simon, Captain Bl at ck. Huw for The last part of the show and Rizz on Hassan and the encore. Plus the new Sax/flute player who`s name I tried to remember but I`m afraid it`s gone again, same guy as Astoria. Jerry I thought was great tonight. It`s the first time I`ve actually been able to hear him properly live. Much impressed. Sound MUCH better then last time in Croydon. I think it makes a huge difference to where in the room you are at his venue. It had a few problems at first but settled to being pretty clear where I was. Support from Alan/Bedoiun and a short accoustic bit by Huw which ran straight into the bands set. Tracks, not complete and in totally the wrong order, sorry: Assault.. Golden Void Spirit Of the Age Hassan Hippy Gremlin High Rise (sort of...) You Better Believe It (!) Hurry On Sundown Angel Of Death Couple of Poems Spiral Galaxy Space Is Deep Flying Doctor The second track was familiar, can`t place it but was very good! Best Si The Alice Cooper Trivia File: http://www.alicecoopertrivia.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tindex.html From sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK Sun Mar 25 19:06:44 2001 From: sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:06:44 +0100 Subject: First with Croydon report Message-ID: Subject: First with Croydon report > I'm going to kill the sound engineer if I ever get my hands on him. Much as > I love Alan's playing, being able to hear that to the virtual exclusion of > all else for most of the gig is somewhat frustrating - Dave's guitar was > inaudible and Jerry's was most of the time. Hmm. I had very good sound almost all night. Could hear Everyone. 7 rows back right in front of the PA on the left(not bad considering I got my tickets about 7:15pm!). I think it`s definitly where you are in this place. Same thing happened last year. I had awful sound all night but others said it was fine. Si From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Mar 25 19:33:13 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:33:13 +0100 Subject: Croydon Show In-Reply-To: <005801c0b588$040092a0$0100a8c0@kermitz> Message-ID: The set: Assault and battery The Golden Void Clouded Vision Spacebrock Space is Deep Hippy Flying Doctor ? new song Angels Of Death High Rise The Awakening/Standing On The Edge You Better Believe It Song of The Gremlin Spirit Of The Age Hassan I Sabbah Encores: Spiral Galaxy Motorway City Hurry On Sundown The verdict: Bloody great. The key moment was a couple of minutes into 'Golden Void': up to then everyone was sitting down, there was no atmosphere;- then a few people jumped out of their seats- security tried to dissuade them but suddenly there was huge surge to the front, security withdrew- everyone was on their feet, we had passion, we had fervour, we had a proper Hawkwind gig on our hands. Soon after Ron asked security to stop hassling people and they disappeared, to leave band and audience to enjoy each other's company. There were scrappy moments: God knows what was going on in the messy, drumless rendition of High Rise, but Simon House saved the day with some sublime soloing. But the highlights were many: a rip-roaring Flying Doctor, a lengthy, pounding Spacebrock with vocals from Ron, a beautiful reworking of Clouded Vision, and best of all an incredible You Better Believe It which comes close to being the greatest five minutes of live Hawkwind I've seen. Rizz popped up on Hassan and Spiral Galaxy and seemed less out-of-place than when I've seen him previously. His lunatic dancing set against the barrage of strobes added something to the visuals, at any rate. And the lightshow was great: no crummy video footage of kids playing space invaders tonight: just wall-to-wall psychedelic back projections and effective lasers and strobes. Hurry On Sundown, with the invincible three-guitar blanga of Dave, Jerry and Huw- great end to a great gig. Special mentions to Brock, who still has the strongest voice in the band, and Captain Black Keith Kniveton who drenched everything in some superlative whirling swoosh. The overall sound is probably the loudest, densest and heaviest than at any time since Space Ritual. Here's to the next time! In message <005801c0b588$040092a0$0100a8c0 at kermitz>, Si Halley writes >Just back. > >Cool show. Very relax. Everybody seemed to be enjoying themselves. Complete >cock-up of High Rise. But they laughed it off. Dave seemed to be taking the >micky out of everybody, especially Simon. > >Line-Up: Dave, Ron, Richard, Alan, Jerry, Simon, Captain Bl at ck. Huw for The >last part of the show and Rizz on Hassan and the encore. Plus the new >Sax/flute player who`s name I tried to remember but I`m afraid it`s gone >again, same guy as Astoria. > >Jerry I thought was great tonight. It`s the first time I`ve actually been >able to hear him properly live. Much impressed. > >Sound MUCH better then last time in Croydon. I think it makes a huge >difference to where in the room you are at his venue. It had a few problems >at first but settled to being pretty clear where I was. > >Support from Alan/Bedoiun and a short accoustic bit by Huw which ran >straight into the bands set. > >Tracks, not complete and in totally the wrong order, sorry: > >Assault.. >Golden Void >Spirit Of the Age >Hassan >Hippy >Gremlin >High Rise (sort of...) >You Better Believe It (!) >Hurry On Sundown >Angel Of Death >Couple of Poems >Spiral Galaxy >Space Is Deep >Flying Doctor >The second track was familiar, can`t place it but was very good! > >Best > >Si > > >The Alice Cooper Trivia File: >http://www.alicecoopertrivia.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tindex.html -- Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Mar 25 19:36:52 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:36:52 +0100 Subject: First with Croydon report In-Reply-To: <005c01c0b588$a669b8a0$0100a8c0@kermitz> Message-ID: In message <005c01c0b588$a669b8a0$0100a8c0 at kermitz>, Si Halley writes >Subject: First with Croydon report > > >> I'm going to kill the sound engineer if I ever get my hands on him. Much >as >> I love Alan's playing, being able to hear that to the virtual exclusion of >> all else for most of the gig is somewhat frustrating - Dave's guitar was >> inaudible and Jerry's was most of the time. > >Hmm. I had very good sound almost all night. Could hear Everyone. 7 rows >back right in front of the PA on the left(not bad considering I got my >tickets about 7:15pm!). I think it`s definitly where you are in this place. >Same thing happened last year. I had awful sound all night but others said >it was fine. > >Si Yeah I agree: I had good sound; there were occasions when the bass was overwhelming (Spiral Galaxy became a low-end thudfest with Simon House barely audible) but mostly it was fine. Couldn't always hear Ron though, although he doesn't half mumble at times- when he let himself go he was pretty audible all right. -- Nick Medford From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Sun Mar 25 19:47:24 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:47:24 +0100 Subject: Croydon Show - Set List ammendment. In-Reply-To: <005801c0b588$040092a0$0100a8c0@kermitz> Message-ID: Don't forget Spacebrock....which was also included in the set list. This track is normally instrumental....however tonight we had Ron singing over it....which I didn't think worked very well. I thought it was a great show.....although I'm not sure about some very long 'pregnant' pauses between some of the songs......I much prefer the synthesised sounds that gently filled the gaps between songs ( like they did in the ole' days ). Thats Keith Knivetons job really...isn't it? The show started off really strong, and apart from a few 'iffy' patches built to a really good climax at the end. Good on ya! mel From rdc at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Mar 25 20:05:12 2001 From: rdc at NTLWORLD.COM (Richard Crossley) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:05:12 +0100 Subject: Croydon Show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Highlight of the gig was being asked half way through Flying Doctor, "Why are they singing about Canada Geese ?" From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Sun Mar 25 20:30:44 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:30:44 -0500 Subject: Croydon Show Message-ID: I'm excited to hear that "You'd Better Believe It" is in the set list! This is one of my all-time favorite Hawkwind tunes! John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Just back. > > Cool show. Very relax. Everybody seemed to be enjoying themselves. Complete > cock-up of High Rise. But they laughed it off. Dave seemed to be taking the > micky out of everybody, especially Simon. > > Line-Up: Dave, Ron, Richard, Alan, Jerry, Simon, Captain Bl at ck. Huw for The > last part of the show and Rizz on Hassan and the encore. Plus the new > Sax/flute player who`s name I tried to remember but I`m afraid it`s gone > again, same guy as Astoria. > > Jerry I thought was great tonight. It`s the first time I`ve actually been > able to hear him properly live. Much impressed. > > Sound MUCH better then last time in Croydon. I think it makes a huge > difference to where in the room you are at his venue. It had a few problems > at first but settled to being pretty clear where I was. > > Support from Alan/Bedoiun and a short accoustic bit by Huw which ran > straight into the bands set. > > Tracks, not complete and in totally the wrong order, sorry: > > Assault.. > Golden Void > Spirit Of the Age > Hassan > Hippy > Gremlin > High Rise (sort of...) > You Better Believe It (!) > Hurry On Sundown > Angel Of Death > Couple of Poems > Spiral Galaxy > Space Is Deep > Flying Doctor > The second track was familiar, can`t place it but was very good! > > Best > > Si > > > The Alice Cooper Trivia File: > http://www.alicecoopertrivia.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tindex.html > From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Sun Mar 25 21:35:24 2001 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:35:24 -0500 Subject: OFF:Re: Popol - which albums? Message-ID: Ok Doug, has done one (the EASY one). Sei Still Wisse Ich Bin comes out as something like You Know I Am Quiet/I Know I Am Quiet. (unless you can do better with "Is Quiet Knows I Am"). I may once have recorded a song in German but that doesn't mean I have much of an idea what they mean! Better off not knowing sometimes I suspect (Although I did dig into Novalis' Wer Schmetterlinge Lachen Hort and Udo Lindengerbs "Ich Bin Rocker" is hard pressed to hold illusions as to the profound meaningfulness of its title.) Jeff From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Mar 26 01:17:00 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:17:00 EST Subject: OFF:Re: Popol - which albums? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/25/01 6:35:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, jperkins at MAILCITY.COM writes: > Better off not knowing sometimes I suspect (Although I did dig into Novalis' > Wer Schmetterlinge Lachen Hort and Udo Lindengerbs "Ich Bin Rocker" is hard > pressed to hold illusions as to the profound meaningfulness of its title.) > > Jeff I'm still dying to get a translation of "Deutsch Nepal" by Amom Duul II. Scott Telles of ST 37 (who covered the track) said he thought it was a parody of a German war general shouting orders to troops or something... Chuck NP: Vas Deferens Organization--Amon Doo and Popul Poo (yeah, I wish...) From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Mar 26 02:39:28 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:39:28 +0100 Subject: OFF:Re: Popol - which albums? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm still dying to get a translation of "Deutsch Nepal" by Amom Duul II. http://www.andygilham.com/amonduul2/ad2words.htm#wolf -- Andy www.andygilham.com From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Mon Mar 26 03:26:49 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 03:26:49 EST Subject: HW:Croydon...Mission debrief Message-ID: Wow...What a night. (and for me that was the hassle of not knowing wether getting there was on or not...and when we finally decided , the hassle of actually getting there.....Same county, but without a car easier to get to the other side of the planet) But despite the above....Wow what a night. Dont expect a set list....still adjusting my mind...plus there were a couple of things I didnt recognise. Bedouin were Brilliant....Even tighter than brixton...Roll on 7th april at Putney ! Huw...Seemed a little out of it, but a good solo set none the less....rocky paths unplugged .. HW.....What can I say...A real festival vibe about the whole thing ..That indescribable atmosphere of informal chaos, but when the engines kicked in...as tight as any gig I can recall. " One big happy family" dave said as everyone came down to the front of stage , and I reckon he was right. Musically, with apologies for interstellar jetlag....Assault and battery / Golden void ...A couple of things I didnt recognise, but one of my travelling companions said Brockspace was in there.....Something with lyrics that went " I dont know whats in store for me"..Im sorry, i really didnt recognise it but it was briliant...Whatever it was can someone post the lyrics ?...What else can i recalll...Hmmm ..High Rise was excellent (drum free version).....Spirit of the age, absolutely Blinding...One of the best I can remember......I also recollect Ron reading Owl and the Pusseycat over something " what a beautiful pussy you are" Indeed. Excuse confusion but I've had 3 hours sleep, got my kids off to school, and Im struggling to get ready for work....got to go...Oh yeh, final word...Louise, who was a total HW virgin till last night...After the gig ,on the train said ..."Wow...Brilliant...Can we go to Aldershot next week ?"......And, Y'Know, I think we might !! ( One more conversion to the Church of Hawkwind !!...Praise the Spaceborne spirit of Bob !!).... From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Mar 26 04:28:01 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:28:01 -0500 Subject: Croydon Show Message-ID: Overall, a very good show; the technical problems during High Rise didn't affect things too much and allowed us to hear Simon as he should be heard. Am I the only person who actually thought that the sound was best in the middle of the set and then tailed off towards the end? Rizz's vocals over Spiral Galaxy really annoyed me as I love that piece, especially Simon's playing. You'd Better Believe It was magical; utterly superb!!!!!!!!! It was good to see Huw on form and having a good time; roll on Aldershot!!! COLIN From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Mar 26 05:35:36 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:35:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: Damon and Naomi ... and KURIHARA UK tour Message-ID: >from another list ... > >>This just in - the UK leg of Damon and Naomi's tour with Kurihara >>(KURIHARA!!!). I do believe the Field Mice are on the same bill. Please >>feel free to help spread the word.... >HOWEVER, Michio Kurihara is one of the most amazing, mind-blowing >guitarists alive on planet Earth at the moment. His work with the likes of >White Heaven, Ghost and Overhang Party is brilliantly melodic and >stunningly psychedelic. Grakkl (FAA) ObKuriharaCD: Cosmic Invention - Help your Sartori Mind (sp?) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Mar 26 05:39:08 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:39:08 -0500 Subject: OFF:Re: Popol - which albums? Message-ID: Note that the third "Gila" album, entitled "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee" is as much a Popol Vuh album (Florian Fricke is very prominent) as it is a Gila (Conny Veit) album. And it has just been reissued on CD (legitimately) on the Garden of Delights label. We have a couple copies at aural-innovations.com available in case anyone's interested. I can't compare it to much else from Popol Vuh, as I only have the 'Garden of Pharaohs' and Sei Still, wisse Ich bin albums. Grakkl (FAA) From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Mar 26 06:57:28 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:57:28 +0100 Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? Message-ID: The French are 'orrible!! They refuse to speek English, then if you try to speek French, they just take the piss when you get it wrong!! I Know this to be true!!!! Wouldn't live there for all the Hawkwind LP's in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd like to live in Scotland though, or perhaps Pheonix. (?) >>> samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM 03/24/01 09:19am >>> Damn, I was going to say that......OK 2) how about it's full of Citroen 2CVs. carrying round dodgy cheeses. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mark Licht [mailto:mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM] Sent: 24 March 2001 00:07 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: VERY OFF: good places to live? - so give me three good reasons why we don't all just move to France and have done with it. Andy Garibaldi - Subject: VERY OFF: good places to live? 1. Because it's full of French people? :-) *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Mar 26 07:47:49 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:17:49 +0930 Subject: festival fever Message-ID: Hey duudes - getting some nice support for the festival check out what the voters have had to say.... http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/hawkwind_votes.htm Michael Blackman The Elecetric Tepee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Mar 26 08:09:43 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:09:43 +0100 Subject: TEN SECONDS OVER CROYDON Message-ID: Standing in the Fairfield halls after the gig. As the equipment is packed away, you can still feel the electric in the air....the after-vibe of the musical miracle that is Hawkwind. This show was outstanding. Sure there were faults, but that's what makes it so real......a chaotic happening that comes out of nowhere and wastes your head, and that is what you went for.....I hope. So it goes, the band have the uncanny ability to freeze time and transport you to the higher ground.....this ain't no lie people. During "You better believe it" overdrive kicked in.....the swirling vortex on the projection backdrop just absorbed the neural circuitry and shorted out the brain. Images of Ron silhouetted against shafts of light cutting through the smoke are something that quickly become engraved in the subconscious. The sensation as the bands warp-drive take our already frazzled consciousness to the higher plains should be preserved and bottled until time is no more. You cant touch this.....all else is gaslight. Got a sense of humour?, lets aim the smoke machine at the orange clad security (sic) staff, and smoke them out!.....its about anarchy on so many levels that it just sends your head spinning. The Ken Barlow Druidic mantra should be rush released immediately, as it must surely be the basis for a new "Ritual" recording. Still taking time to assimilate all that went on, but can definitely say that we had a really brilliant night. The band were tight, the smoke in abundance, the lights constantly dancing, and the audience in good humour and complete homage, a really friendly, chaotic, spaced vibe, making for another gig to remember. Our thanks to Kris, Dave and the Band for their kindness and hospitality. And our pleasure in having the opportunity to enjoy all this with our good friends Eli and Paula. See you at Aldershot next weekend.........for the next instalment of the Captain's Chronicles. GARY&ANNA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK Mon Mar 26 08:38:29 2001 From: pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Peter Wibrew) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:38:29 +0100 Subject: festival fever Message-ID: Hi I can see on the list of support for the festival, a message from Dick Cubitt, are you on this list Dick, if so hows it going?? We havn't spoken for like, best part of 10yrs ( since the H&N Secrets time ) and would love to speak, Hey if you get a chance mail me. All the best and thanx everybody for your time. Peter http://www.geocities.com/pwibrew/index.html PS I also am 100% behind the idea of this frolic in the countryside you can count on my help in whatever way possible. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael W Blackman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 1:47 PM Subject: festival fever Hey duudes - getting some nice support for the festival check out what the voters have had to say.... http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/hawkwind_votes.htm Michael Blackman The Elecetric Tepee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Mar 26 08:48:11 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:48:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > At 08.25 -0500 23.3.2001, Brian Halligan wrote: >> Vote for Fender >> "A chicken in every pot and a band in every garage!" Carl replied: > A good slogan, but my vote goes to Gibson :) Finally, an election we can't lose either way! Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_law1.html From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 26 08:57:07 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:57:07 -0500 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight Wanting Infiltration... Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:00:10 EST, Bob Lennon wrote: >o.k. >here's what Bob means: >Being Optimized for Battle >you're right kevin, or: >Kinetic Electronic Violence and Infiltration Neohuman >the uses of the internet haven't been exhausted. >so there Nick = Networked Individual Calibrated for Killing and I tried my surname too- Medford = Mechanical Electronic Device Fabricated for Online Repair and Destruction ... which is quite similar really. So it must be true. How did you get it to take 'Hawkwind'- wouldn't let me put in anything over 7 letters. NM From novadrive at HOME.COM Mon Mar 26 09:03:49 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:03:49 -0700 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight Wanting Infiltration... In-Reply-To: <200103261357.IAA19974@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: OK, you got me; I cheated. I put in Hwkwind, then added the 'and' myself. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Nick Medford Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 6:57 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight Wanting Infiltration... On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:00:10 EST, Bob Lennon wrote: >o.k. >here's what Bob means: >Being Optimized for Battle >you're right kevin, or: >Kinetic Electronic Violence and Infiltration Neohuman >the uses of the internet haven't been exhausted. >so there Nick = Networked Individual Calibrated for Killing and I tried my surname too- Medford = Mechanical Electronic Device Fabricated for Online Repair and Destruction ... which is quite similar really. So it must be true. How did you get it to take 'Hawkwind'- wouldn't let me put in anything over 7 letters. NM From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Mar 26 10:02:49 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:02:49 +0100 Subject: Croydon Show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Richard Crossley wrote: > Highlight of the gig was being asked half way through Flying Doctor, "Why > are they singing about Canada Geese ?" Silly - the line in question is *blatantly* 'covered in bees' I was slightly amused to discover that Jon (Jarrett) hadn't realised that the new song owed so much to 'The Owl and the Pussycat' - excellent stuff! Kirsten p.s. *good* swoosh -- Kirsten Procter ghoti NP: Hawkwind - Hall of the Mountain Grill From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Mar 26 11:44:09 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:44:09 +0100 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight Wanting Infiltration and Nocturnal Destruction Message-ID: R.I.C.H.A.R.D.: Robotic Intelligent Construct Hardwired for Accurate Repair and Destruction LoL - Thats Pretty Close Rich W From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 26 11:40:15 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:40:15 +0100 Subject: Croydon Show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Kirsten Procter writes >On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Richard Crossley wrote: > >> Highlight of the gig was being asked half way through Flying Doctor, "Why >> are they singing about Canada Geese ?" > > Silly - the line in question is *blatantly* 'covered in bees' > > I was slightly amused to discover that Jon (Jarrett) hadn't realised >that the new song owed so much to 'The Owl and the Pussycat' - >excellent stuff! I'm impressed that anyone could hear what Ron was on about. Couldn't make out a single word. Music sounded good though. Not sure whether to blame him or the sound - he was perfectly clear on the other spoken word stuff. Fantastic gig but Mr Tree had a patchy night IMHO. Did the vocals really add anything to Spacebrock? How come he sounds so in command- and does actually sing in tune- on some songs, but groans like a walrus with toothache on others? Lest I provoke a rash of anti-Ron posts, it's worth remembering that Saint Bob himself was extremely erratic in the singing-in-tune department. FWIW I like RT- because of his evident spirit. (Nice one for setting the security straight). I'd far rather see an old punk firebrand of dubious musicality like Ron in the Hawk-family than some tedious old prog-rocker like Jon Wetton or someone (apologies to all the Asia fans out there, if there are any, which I doubt). But I wouldn't object if RT polished things up a teeny bit, and nor would Capt. Brock I suspect. -- Nick Medford From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Mar 26 11:44:01 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:44:01 -0600 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight Wanting Infiltration and Nocturnal Destruction In-Reply-To: <005001c0b613$fac19b80$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Rich Warren wrote: :R.I.C.H.A.R.D.: Robotic Intelligent Construct Hardwired for Accurate Repair :and Destruction : :LoL - Thats Pretty Close heh. I got: A.R.I.N.: Artificial Robotic Infiltration Neohuman K.O.M.I.N.S.: Kinetic Obedient Machine Intended for Nocturnal Sabotage (obedient?!?) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Mon Mar 26 12:56:18 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:56:18 -0500 Subject: SLOTERDIJK seeks Cellist(s) for summer shows Message-ID: Hello, this is Mike Burro of Sloterdijk. I am seeking a cellist with an experimental "feel" for live shows during our spring/summer dates. The role of the cellist here would be one of considerable improvisation. I want the cello to sort of fill out the compositions, lending nuances which just would not happen otherwise. Basically this would be an interpretive role, and interested individuals are encouraged to apply. This advertisement also applies to more than one cellist, so if there are two cellists who are interested in getting involed in this, that's fine...Please contact me privately for more details....Peace, MIke www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Mar 26 13:00:10 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:00:10 +0100 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction Message-ID: Ha!Ha! I'm a Lifelike Android Yearning for Logical Assassination Sounds about right to me!! I know exactly who I'm yearning to assassinate as well!!! Layla >>> novadrive at HOME.COM 03/25/01 11:50pm >>> Just when you thought all the marvelous uses of the Internet were exhausted: http://www.brunching.com/toys/toy-cyborger.html KevinSommers From john at JMAIL.FSBUSINESS.CO.UK Mon Mar 26 13:08:30 2001 From: john at JMAIL.FSBUSINESS.CO.UK (John Rennie) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:08:30 +0100 Subject: Croydon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I didn't get there (I didn't even know about it :-( ) and am now deeply regretting it. However I have to say that the set seems to owe a lot to the pre 1980 albums. Fair enough, since that's my favourite Hawkwind era too, but apart from a few exceptions there just don't seem to be that many classic tracks from the post 1980 stuff. I'd be interested to hear what others regard as post-1980 classic tracks, or even post 1980 classic albums. JR From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Mar 26 14:00:53 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:00:53 +0100 Subject: Croydon Message-ID: in my honest opinion alot of hawkwinds's post 79's output is pretty good, but when u start comparing it to anything they did prior to 1980 it just pales in comparrison. colm ----- Original Message ----- From: John Rennie To: Sent: 26 March 2001 19:08 Subject: Croydon > I didn't get there (I didn't even know about it :-( ) and am now deeply > regretting it. However I have to say that the set seems to owe a lot to the > pre 1980 albums. Fair enough, since that's my favourite Hawkwind era too, > but apart from a few exceptions there just don't seem to be that many > classic tracks from the post 1980 stuff. I'd be interested to hear what > others regard as post-1980 classic tracks, or even post 1980 classic albums. > > JR > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Mar 26 14:13:45 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:13:45 +0100 Subject: Croydon In-Reply-To: <002e01c0b61f$c49897f0$0100a8c0@rattus> Message-ID: At 19.08 +0100 26.3.2001, John Rennie wrote: >I didn't get there (I didn't even know about it :-( ) and am now deeply >regretting it. However I have to say that the set seems to owe a lot to the >pre 1980 albums. Fair enough, since that's my favourite Hawkwind era too, >but apart from a few exceptions there just don't seem to be that many >classic tracks from the post 1980 stuff. I'd be interested to hear what >others regard as post-1980 classic tracks, or even post 1980 classic albums. A lot of the stuff on _Electric Teepee_ I regard as fairly classic -- the rockier tracks, anyway. "Out of the Shadows" live was a storming track (though the studio version was pretty weak; I consider that the most dramatic transformation of a track in HW history). "Treadmill" on Palace Springs is extremely good (even if it does rework old Brock material). "Alien I Am" and "Sputnik Stan" are fairly awesome. I do like quite a lot of the CotBS and XC stuff, too, actually ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 26 15:29:42 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:29:42 +0100 Subject: Croydon In-Reply-To: <002e01c0b61f$c49897f0$0100a8c0@rattus> Message-ID: In message <002e01c0b61f$c49897f0$0100a8c0 at rattus>, John Rennie writes >I didn't get there (I didn't even know about it :-( ) and am now deeply >regretting it. However I have to say that the set seems to owe a lot to the >pre 1980 albums. Fair enough, since that's my favourite Hawkwind era too, >but apart from a few exceptions there just don't seem to be that many >classic tracks from the post 1980 stuff. I'd be interested to hear what >others regard as post-1980 classic tracks, or even post 1980 classic albums. Well, they threw a few new numbers into the set, but I think most fans of the band would accept that '70-'79 were the classic years- responses to the top 5 albums thread reflect that. The studio output since then has been patchy but the live shows- and live albums- remain top quality. 'Electric Tepee' would be my pick as best studio Hawkwind album of the last 20 years. Ten great Hawk-tracks of the last two decades (in no particular order): Damage Of Life Ghost Dance LSD Treadmill Angels Of Death Dream Worker Space Is Their Palestine Hippy Levitation TV Suicide ...there are others... How many of these would get in my all-time HW top 10? No more than a couple. But worth remembering that the band continually re-invent the old classics too... see any live show for confirmation. FWIW I think the main weakness of the more recent output is not the quality of the good stuff- which remains superb- but the lack of quality control, with too much second-rank or filler material finding its way onto the albums. But, I'm grateful that the band still exist as a quality outfit and haven't lapsed into self-parody or bloated middle age like so many of their 70s peers. That in itself is an achievement. -- Nick Medford From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Mon Mar 26 15:30:57 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:30:57 EST Subject: HW: Croydon debrief Message-ID: Anyone back from Croydon with a detailed set list yet ? Love to know what the tracks I didnt recognise were ! Al From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Mar 26 15:35:47 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:35:47 +0100 Subject: Croydon Message-ID: . But, I'm grateful that the band still exist as a quality outfit and > haven't lapsed into self-parody or bloated middle age like so many of their > 70s peers. That in itself is an achievement. > -- > Nick Medford > i whole heartly agree with that!!! colm From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 26 15:43:42 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:43:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Croydon debrief In-Reply-To: <50.134ed7b5.27f10101@aol.com> Message-ID: In message <50.134ed7b5.27f10101 at aol.com>, Al Ogilvy writes > Anyone back from Croydon with a detailed set list yet ? Love to know what >the tracks I didnt recognise were ! > Al Posted set last night- in case you missed it tho: The set: Assault and battery The Golden Void Clouded Vision Spacebrock Space is Deep Hippy Flying Doctor ? new song Angels Of Death High Rise The Awakening/Standing On The Edge You Better Believe It Song of The Gremlin Spirit Of The Age Hassan I Sabbah Encores: Spiral Galaxy Motorway City Hurry On Sundown Maybe someone can enlighten us further re. the new song? Lyrics based on The Owl and the Pussycat apparently. -- Nick Medford From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Mar 26 16:16:54 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:16:54 -0500 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight Wanting Infiltration... In-Reply-To: ; from novadrive@HOME.COM on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:03:49AM -0700 Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:03:49AM -0700, Kevin Sommers wrote: > OK, you got me; I cheated. I put in Hwkwind, then added the 'and' myself. The "a" should clearly be "anthropoid"! Dave Brock = Device Assembled for Violence and Exploration Biomechanical Replicant Optimized for Calculation and Killing And for what it's worth, Lemmy = Lifeform Engineered for Mathematics and Mandatory Yardwork I'm sure he'd be thrilled :-/ -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 26 16:18:58 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:18:58 -0500 Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:00:53 +0100, bedroom trancer wrote: >in my honest opinion alot of hawkwinds's post 79's output is pretty good, >but when u start comparing it to anything they did prior to 1980 it just >pales in comparrison. I think that sums it up pretty well (along with the other messages that said it's good that they reinvent older songs on a frequent basis and that they're not a middle-aged self-parody the way too many other bands that have stuck around are). >----- Original Message ----- >From: John Rennie >To: >Sent: 26 March 2001 19:08 >Subject: Croydon > > >> ... I have to say that the set seems to owe a lot to >> the pre 1980 albums. Fair enough, since that's my favourite Hawkwind >> era too, but apart from a few exceptions there just don't seem to be >> that many classic tracks from the post 1980 stuff. I'd be interested >> to hear what others regard as post-1980 classic tracks, or even post >> 1980 classic albums. Some of my post-'Levitation' favorites (including ones that have been included in the live set over the last couple of years): Angels of Death Living on a Knife Edge (I don't think 'Church of Hawkwind' is a classic Hawkwind album; anyway, it's really a Dave Brock solo album) Arrival In Utopia Dream Worker Night of the Hawk Green-Finned Demon Watching the Grass Grow (I say that this one counts!) Needle Gun (I don't think 'Xenon Codex' is a classic album) Back in the Box Images TV Suicide Out of the Shadows (I seem to like 'Space Bandits' more than many people here) Right to Decide L.S.D. (I don't think 'IitBotFtbD' is a classic Hawkwind album; anyway, it's really a "Richard Chadwick solo album" ;^) Alien I Am Sputnik Stan Wheels Reptoid Vision Hippy Hmmm ... couldn't fit that "greatest hits" package on a single CD ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Mar 26 16:40:07 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:40:07 +0100 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm a Functional Unit Calibrated for Killing and Efficient Repair apparently -- Jon From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Mon Mar 26 16:45:25 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:45:25 EST Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration ... Message-ID: C.A.L.V.E.R.T.--Cybernetic Artificial Lifeform Viable for Efficient Repair and Troubleshooting -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Mar 26 17:02:08 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:02:08 -0500 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration ... In-Reply-To: <67.1199757b.27f11275@aol.com>; from JLoehr4299@AOL.COM on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:45:25PM -0500 Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:45:25PM -0500, Joe Loehr wrote: > C.A.L.V.E.R.T.--Cybernetic Artificial Lifeform Viable for Efficient Repair > and Troubleshooting ...whose android replica is acting up again. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Mar 26 17:07:45 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:07:45 -0500 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration ... In-Reply-To: <20010326170208.H6167@telepres.com>; from erics@TELEPRES.COM on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 05:02:08PM -0500 Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 05:02:08PM -0500, Eric Siegerman wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:45:25PM -0500, Joe Loehr wrote: > > C.A.L.V.E.R.T.--Cybernetic Artificial Lifeform Viable for Efficient Repair > > and Troubleshooting > > ...whose android replica is acting up again. So's my brain! Ignore last transmission... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Mon Mar 26 18:39:59 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:39:59 EST Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration ... Message-ID: In a message dated 3/26/01 5:02:22 PM US Eastern Standard Time, erics at TELEPRES.COM writes: > > C.A.L.V.E.R.T.--Cybernetic Artificial Lifeform Viable for Efficient Repair > > and Troubleshooting > > ...whose android replica is acting up again. > > It's no joke! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chrisr at TIAC.NET Mon Mar 26 18:42:21 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:42:21 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawklords etc. Message-ID: I think the most dramatic transformation of a HW track is PSI Power. From the excellent Hawklords version to the killer version on Do Not Panic. You would almost not even they are the same song, but I would hate to do without either one. I have been playing the Hawklords CD lately and it really sounds as good as ever to me. I had not played it for quite a while. I have discovered that it sounds good loud. I guess I had better start listening to PXR5 again! One other note: The 1999 Party CD, I played a couple of times when it was first released, and put it down. I remember the feedback at the time that it was not mixed well and that it was a 1990s mix on a 1970s record. I have recently played that a couple of times and it is an incredible musical document. I do not know how it stands up musically to the tapes of that period, but to hear Dave Brock electric on The Watcher and Simon House on some of the other tracks is a real treat. I need to visit this gem more often, Chris Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > A lot of the stuff on _Electric Teepee_ I regard as fairly classic -- > the rockier tracks, anyway. "Out of the Shadows" live was a storming > track (though the studio version was pretty weak; I consider that the > most dramatic transformation of a track in HW history). Cheers, > Carl > > -- From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Mon Mar 26 18:56:51 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 00:56:51 +0100 Subject: Whatever Happened to Andy Dunkley??? In-Reply-To: <200103262118.QAA22079@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Here's one for the older Hawknuts out there! During the 70's, Andy Dunkley used to be HW's very own resident/on tour DJ....playing music and making announcements to the audience before the gig and during intervals. Does anyone know what became of him? I'm pretty certain it's him doing the intro at the beginning of the 1999 Party CD( before Nik Turners 'Edge of Time' narrative). mel From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Mon Mar 26 20:53:58 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:53:58 -0500 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction Message-ID: J.E.R.R.Y.: Journeying Electronic Replicant Responsible for Yardwork G.U.I.Z.A.R.: General Unit Intended for Zealous Assassination and Repair AKA D.E.L.E.R.I.: Digital Electronic Lifeform Engineered for Repair and Infiltration From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 26 21:54:28 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:54:28 -0500 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:15:25 +0000, Nick Medford wrote: >I'm sure Mike H. will answer for himself, but I think he was referring to >MM's endorsement of Dworkin (who is famously pro-censorship) rather than >anything in the essay you referenced. Yes, she definitely is. THAT I would never dispute. >Well, I think the problem is in the idea that the political views of an >author are the most important thing about his/her writing. I don't buy >that at all. Nor do I, but I think they're important to know about in order to know where a writer is coming from. Just as knowing about, say, an author's childhood, can give insights or (somewhat) "objective" perspective on the themes in the author's writing. Sometimes a good story is just a good story, but sometimes it's also an allegory ... >It's entirely possible that HP Lovecraft, say, held >racist/supremacist views, I don't dislike him for those views (which I can certainly believe he held, although I'm no expert on the man, given the fascination with "subhuman" races he exhibits in many of his stories); I dislike him because his prose strikes me as extremely ponderous. But what might strike me as ponderous may come across as dramatic to others (and undeniably contributes to the creepy atmosphere of his stories whether you like the style or not), so certainly to each his own ... >and it's pretty certain that he was a rather >sad and disturbed individual-none of this alters the fact that he wrote >some great short stories. Being a sad and disturbed individual can frequently be quite beneficial to an author (in an artistic sense) - look at Philip K. Dick! No one can write about schizophrenia (or general themes of identity loss/confusion) like an actual schizophrenic. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 26 22:00:12 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:00:12 -0500 Subject: OFF: (was: Canterbury festival) Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:43:25 -0500, Michael Habiby wrote: >Seeing more of the man > >When you are illuminated you see the .... it is the static that the >"ruling classes" use in the media to keep the hoy paloy in line... When I'm illuminated, I see the WHAT?!? What the heck are you talking about? I can't see anything between "the" and "it"? There's Nothing There! I CAN'T SEE IT! I CAN'T SEE IT! IF I DON'T SEE IT THEN IT CAN'T EAT ME! IF I DON'T SEE IT THEN IT CAN'T EAT ME! IF I DON'T SEE THE FNORD THEN IT CAN'T EAT ME! Oh. Much better. On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:43:25 -0500, Michael Habiby wrote: >Seeing more of the fnords man > >When you are illuminated you see the fnords.... it is the static that the >"ruling classes" use in the media to keep the hoy paloy in line... > >Referencing back to the Fernando Poo comment, which is taken from the >Illuminati Trilogy... ;^) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Mar 26 22:38:46 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:38:46 -0500 Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) In-Reply-To: <200103262118.QAA22079@listserv.spc.edu>; from ceres@SIRIUS.COM on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:18:58PM -0500 Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 04:18:58PM -0500, Douglas Pearson wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:00:53 +0100, bedroom trancer > wrote: > >in my honest opinion alot of hawkwinds's post 79's output is pretty good, > >but when u start comparing it to anything they did prior to 1980 it just > >pales in comparrison. > > I think that sums it up pretty well (along with the other messages that > said it's good that they reinvent older songs on a frequent basis and that > they're not a middle-aged self-parody the way too many other bands that > have stuck around are). The two points aren't completely unrelated. The problem with the MASP bands is that they keep doing the same sh*t over and over. Avoiding that trap requires that one keep experimenting. Sometimes experiments fail -- perhaps most of the time. But if you stop trying, guess what? You're stagnating. I mean really; if HW's next studio album contained 10 "new" songs that all sounded like Space-Ritual outtakes, wouldn't we all be wondering if they'd finally lost it? Live's another story of course -- we all want to hear the hits (well, you know what I mean :-) ... but even there, a lot of what *made* the Astoria gig for me was the stuff they don't usually play live. A lot of those songs aren't my favourites; some of them I didn't even recognize (shame on me!) Despite that, it was still bloody refreshing not to be hearing just the same old "standards" yet again. I do have to admit, though: I'm glad to see some seldom-played 70s things like Space is Deep, Hurry on Sundown, and SG28948 (when SR isn't opening) slipping onto the regular set list. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Mar 27 00:24:39 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 00:24:39 EST Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: In a message dated 3/26/01 1:19:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > Hmmm ... couldn't fit that "greatest hits" package on a single CD ... > > -Doug we did this awhile ago, though i think it was just '80s. Lemme see what comes off the top of my head this time... 1.Ghost Dance 2.Cajun Jinx 3.L.S.D. (why is this the _only track_ I like on Etepee?? either i'm crazy or the rest of you are...:) 4.Sputnik Stan 5.Hippy 6.Alchemy 7.Assassins/Space is Their Palestine (not quite pure post-'70s, but things get jumbled w/the reworkings, which is cool) 8.Angels of Death 9.Void City 10.Light Specific Data (Brock or HW, Church is prob. my fave of the '80s) 11.Phenomenon of Luminosity 12.Arioch 13.Rocky Paths 14.Shade Gate 15.Dream Worker 16.Nuclear Drive 17.Mists of Meridin 18.White Zone (I know these last two are basically Psyche Warriors, but like the "Brock"/"Hawklords" business, it's all Hawk 'n' Roll to me) 19.War I Survived 20.The Day a Wall Came Down well, since i obviously couldn't limit it to 10, i guess I Iike the post-'70s stuff pretty damn okay...fave album of the '90s is Bus. Trip. hmm...just came up with a good excuse for another comp tape... Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Mar 27 00:33:26 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 00:33:26 EST Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: In a message dated 3/26/01 9:26:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, Chuckrecs at AOL.COM writes: > 1.Ghost Dance > 2.Cajun Jinx > 3.L.S.D. (why is this the _only track_ I like on Etepee?? either i'm crazy > or > the rest of you are...:) > 4.Sputnik Stan > 5.Hippy > 6.Alchemy > 7.Assassins/Space is Their Palestine (not quite pure post-'70s, but things > get jumbled w/the reworkings, which is cool) > 8.Angels of Death > 9.Void City > 10.Light Specific Data (Brock or HW, Church is prob. my fave of the '80s) > 11.Phenomenon of Luminosity > 12.Arioch > 13.Rocky Paths > 14.Shade Gate > 15.Dream Worker > 16.Nuclear Drive > 17.Mists of Meridin > 18.White Zone (I know these last two are basically Psyche Warriors, but like > the "Brock"/"Hawklords" business, it's all Hawk 'n' Roll to me) > 19.War I Survived > 20.The Day a Wall Came Down > > well, since i obviously couldn't limit it to 10, i guess I Iike the post-' > 70s > stuff pretty damn okay...fave album of the '90s is Bus. Trip. hmm...just > came > up with a good excuse for another comp tape... > > Chuck oops, i forgot two very important tracks: Levitation (esp. live Do Not Panic) and Stonehenge Decoded! no '80s HW-comp would be complete w/out those 2... Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Mar 27 01:12:48 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:12:48 EST Subject: OFF:Re: Popol - which albums? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/25/01 11:39:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, email at ANDYGILHAM.COM writes: > > I'm still dying to get a translation of "Deutsch Nepal" by Amom Duul II. > > http://www.andygilham.com/amonduul2/ad2words.htm#wolf > > -- Andy > danke, Andy. Ich solst weissen haben... (ja?? nein!!! i'll never get the verbs right) oopsee, Chuck From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Mar 27 01:43:51 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:43:51 +0100 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingI nfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction Message-ID: Synthetic Artificial Machine!! Think I'll go and buy a life now - v.depressing!! Wouldn't let me put in Samantha - I'll console myself with that thought. Sam (or the synthetic,artificial one to ther friends, : -( ) -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: 26 March 2001 19:00 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction Ha!Ha! I'm a Lifelike Android Yearning for Logical Assassination Sounds about right to me!! I know exactly who I'm yearning to assassinate as well!!! Layla >>> novadrive at HOME.COM 03/25/01 11:50pm >>> Just when you thought all the marvelous uses of the Internet were exhausted: http://www.brunching.com/toys/toy-cyborger.html KevinSommers *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Mar 27 01:51:23 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:51:23 +0100 Subject: Croydon Message-ID: Agree with that entirely. On the Emergency Broadcast Album (might be collection - can't remember) there is the harshest most industrialised most spankingly top version of Shouldn't Do That. It's amazing, I couldn't praise the track enough, no other version since the original has affected me as much. Tracks lik Black Elk Speaks on Space Bandits and Sputnik Stan shouldn't be cast off either and the whole of Xenon Codex, Business of the Future, Electric Teepee even Palace Springs has moments. As a final point 'cos I'm no expert but I don't know of many bands that can turn out more than ten top class, blinding albums in a lifetime. Hawkwind have loads....... Sam -----Original Message----- From: Nick Medford [mailto:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: 26 March 2001 21:30 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Croydon In message <002e01c0b61f$c49897f0$0100a8c0 at rattus>, John Rennie writes >I didn't get there (I didn't even know about it :-( ) and am now deeply >regretting it. However I have to say that the set seems to owe a lot to the >pre 1980 albums. Fair enough, since that's my favourite Hawkwind era too, >but apart from a few exceptions there just don't seem to be that many >classic tracks from the post 1980 stuff. I'd be interested to hear what >others regard as post-1980 classic tracks, or even post 1980 classic albums. Well, they threw a few new numbers into the set, but I think most fans of the band would accept that '70-'79 were the classic years- responses to the top 5 albums thread reflect that. The studio output since then has been patchy but the live shows- and live albums- remain top quality. 'Electric Tepee' would be my pick as best studio Hawkwind album of the last 20 years. Ten great Hawk-tracks of the last two decades (in no particular order): Damage Of Life Ghost Dance LSD Treadmill Angels Of Death Dream Worker Space Is Their Palestine Hippy Levitation TV Suicide ...there are others... How many of these would get in my all-time HW top 10? No more than a couple. But worth remembering that the band continually re-invent the old classics too... see any live show for confirmation. FWIW I think the main weakness of the more recent output is not the quality of the good stuff- which remains superb- but the lack of quality control, with too much second-rank or filler material finding its way onto the albums. But, I'm grateful that the band still exist as a quality outfit and haven't lapsed into self-parody or bloated middle age like so many of their 70s peers. That in itself is an achievement. -- Nick Medford *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Mar 27 02:08:19 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:08:19 +0100 Subject: Croydon Message-ID: Just dawned on me - how many I've missed - well where to start, Levitation, one of the best albums in the world ever, Out & Intake Chronicles & Live, both amazing for different reasons, Church, Joker at the Gate and the other one, Night of the Hawks (top version of Psypower), The Codex. Hawkwind were about the only band chucking out anything worth listening to in the 80's and I was but a wee teenager then!!! Sam - still sure I've forgot some. -----Original Message----- From: Sam Kirwan [mailto:samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM] Sent: 27 March 2001 07:51 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Croydon Agree with that entirely. On the Emergency Broadcast Album (might be collection - can't remember) there is the harshest most industrialised most spankingly top version of Shouldn't Do That. It's amazing, I couldn't praise the track enough, no other version since the original has affected me as much. Tracks lik Black Elk Speaks on Space Bandits and Sputnik Stan shouldn't be cast off either and the whole of Xenon Codex, Business of the Future, Electric Teepee even Palace Springs has moments. As a final point 'cos I'm no expert but I don't know of many bands that can turn out more than ten top class, blinding albums in a lifetime. Hawkwind have loads....... Sam -----Original Message----- From: Nick Medford [mailto:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: 26 March 2001 21:30 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Croydon In message <002e01c0b61f$c49897f0$0100a8c0 at rattus>, John Rennie writes >I didn't get there (I didn't even know about it :-( ) and am now deeply >regretting it. However I have to say that the set seems to owe a lot to the >pre 1980 albums. Fair enough, since that's my favourite Hawkwind era too, >but apart from a few exceptions there just don't seem to be that many >classic tracks from the post 1980 stuff. I'd be interested to hear what >others regard as post-1980 classic tracks, or even post 1980 classic albums. Well, they threw a few new numbers into the set, but I think most fans of the band would accept that '70-'79 were the classic years- responses to the top 5 albums thread reflect that. The studio output since then has been patchy but the live shows- and live albums- remain top quality. 'Electric Tepee' would be my pick as best studio Hawkwind album of the last 20 years. Ten great Hawk-tracks of the last two decades (in no particular order): Damage Of Life Ghost Dance LSD Treadmill Angels Of Death Dream Worker Space Is Their Palestine Hippy Levitation TV Suicide ...there are others... How many of these would get in my all-time HW top 10? No more than a couple. But worth remembering that the band continually re-invent the old classics too... see any live show for confirmation. FWIW I think the main weakness of the more recent output is not the quality of the good stuff- which remains superb- but the lack of quality control, with too much second-rank or filler material finding its way onto the albums. But, I'm grateful that the band still exist as a quality outfit and haven't lapsed into self-parody or bloated middle age like so many of their 70s peers. That in itself is an achievement. -- Nick Medford **************************************************************************** ******* The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL **************************************************************************** ******* *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Mar 27 02:33:10 2001 From: markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM (mark cotton) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:33:10 -0000 Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: 70's and earlier good, eh? What about that pop song 'Jack of Shadows' - with a boppy chorus for Christ's sake! Mr C. >From: Douglas Pearson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) >Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:18:58 -0500 > >On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:00:53 +0100, bedroom trancer > wrote: > >in my honest opinion alot of hawkwinds's post 79's output is pretty good, > >but when u start comparing it to anything they did prior to 1980 it just > >pales in comparrison. > >I think that sums it up pretty well (along with the other messages that >said it's good that they reinvent older songs on a frequent basis and that >they're not a middle-aged self-parody the way too many other bands that >have stuck around are). > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: John Rennie > >To: > >Sent: 26 March 2001 19:08 > >Subject: Croydon > > > > > >> ... I have to say that the set seems to owe a lot to > >> the pre 1980 albums. Fair enough, since that's my favourite Hawkwind > >> era too, but apart from a few exceptions there just don't seem to be > >> that many classic tracks from the post 1980 stuff. I'd be interested > >> to hear what others regard as post-1980 classic tracks, or even post > >> 1980 classic albums. > >Some of my post-'Levitation' favorites (including ones that have been >included in the live set over the last couple of years): > >Angels of Death >Living on a Knife Edge >(I don't think 'Church of Hawkwind' is a classic Hawkwind album; anyway, >it's really a Dave Brock solo album) >Arrival In Utopia >Dream Worker >Night of the Hawk >Green-Finned Demon >Watching the Grass Grow (I say that this one counts!) >Needle Gun >(I don't think 'Xenon Codex' is a classic album) >Back in the Box >Images >TV Suicide >Out of the Shadows >(I seem to like 'Space Bandits' more than many people here) >Right to Decide >L.S.D. >(I don't think 'IitBotFtbD' is a classic Hawkwind album; anyway, it's >really a "Richard Chadwick solo album" ;^) >Alien I Am >Sputnik Stan >Wheels >Reptoid Vision >Hippy > >Hmmm ... couldn't fit that "greatest hits" package on a single CD ... > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Tue Mar 27 04:33:15 2001 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:33:15 +0000 Subject: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list Message-ID: Insomnia reigned over the weekend and feeling desirous of listening to something unfamiliar/distracting I got out the copy of Alien 4 which hadn't been played since being purchased a couple of years ago (initial play of album not fully appreciated!) -I subsequently played it a few more times over the weekend just to make sure it wasn't delirium induced appreciation. It has now been elevated to one of my favourite albums (fickle or what!.) - especially for times where total immersion is required. M at xine Mechanical Android eXperienced in Infiltration and Nocturnal Exploration How very apt! From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Tue Mar 27 03:44:37 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:44:37 +0100 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration... Message-ID: K.E.I.T.H.: Kinetic Electronic Infiltration and Troubleshooting Humanoid or K.E.E.F.: Killing and Efficient Exploration Facsimile Hmmm, quite accurate really... From markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Mar 27 03:48:09 2001 From: markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM (mark cotton) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:48:09 -0000 Subject: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list Message-ID: I, too, think that 'Alien4' is a superb album. Mr C. >From: Maxine Wesley >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:33:15 +0000 > >Insomnia reigned over the weekend and feeling desirous of listening to >something unfamiliar/distracting I got out the copy of Alien 4 which hadn't >been played since being purchased a couple of years ago (initial play of >album not fully appreciated!) -I subsequently played it a few more times >over the weekend just to make sure it wasn't delirium induced appreciation. >It has now been elevated to one of my favourite albums (fickle or what!.) - >especially for times where total immersion is required. > >M at xine >Mechanical Android eXperienced in Infiltration and Nocturnal Exploration >How very apt! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Tue Mar 27 04:07:22 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 04:07:22 EST Subject: HW:Re Croydon Message-ID: An unexpected plus from the Croydon Gig...I've just played distant horizons for the first time since i first brought it....I hated it in '97....played it once and filed it and forgot about it....I've only just dug it out now because of Clouded Vision (Didnt recognise it at Croydon !!..) This time around its much better....Clouded vision is really quite a strong song and hopefully the version played live at Croydon will surface again...Wheels also repays more listening As do the "Brock Solo " pieces, I especially like Taxi for Max, but IMHO the Album still has to be the most disjointed ragbag of bits and pieces to appear under the HW name OFFICIALLY and with Daves full blessing , that I've heard so far. Playing it now it seems more like a collection of Solo pieces than an album. The current core line up of the band is ,again in my humble etc only, the best for many years. I've always loved Simons contributions to the band, and Alan is a Bass god. Ron, as I've said before, I think is the best thing to happen to HW since Bob died, and I was saddenned to hear some twats yelling abuse at him at croydon. He's not a Bob clone , Yes there are many similarities and it would appear that Bob is an inspiration to him , but whats wrong with that? I'd just love to see more new material with Rons lyrics. I reckon the Time has come for a definitive HW studio album. The ingredients are there at present.....Great Musicians , more than one creative writer , enthusiasm and enjoyment (Witness the fun being had on stage, not just Croydon but Brixton (And Astoria apparently) )...and Kieth is the perfect Synth man to continue the Del tradition...He looks and sounds as though he's been part of the band for years...I cant imagine the Band without him now. Hawkwind...The next generation ? Anyway, I'll probably get flamed for my opinions about DH ( and deservedly for not recognising Clouded visions live !!!) ( At least I admit it with no excuses). (Sorry Dave....It was great at Croydon ..Keep it in the set please !!) See you all at Aldershot....I'll probably be wearing that appalling red jacket again ( It keeps me warm !!)....Any Pub suggestions yet ? . From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Mar 27 05:22:16 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:22:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: Can and Neu - which albums? In-Reply-To: John McIntyre's message of Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:20:33 -0500 Message-ID: John McIntyre writes: > > Mike asked: > > > > >I've been meaning for a while to give these bands a spin. My electronic > > >music tastes run to mid-period Tangerine Dream (Rybycon until > > >Hyperborea), Tim Blake, the more melodic stuff of Klaus Schulze, Ian > > >Boddy, Software... What would you folks reccommend? > > Well, if you like Rubycon, an obvious suggestion is the previous album Phaedra. > >From the later period, Underwater Sunlight is a lovely album. > > Hmm, Rubycon through Hyperborea,ehh? Does that include Cyclone? (-8 Yep. I really like Cyclone. > If Tim Blake's vocals don't put you off his albums I wouldn't go that far, but they're OK on the actual NJ track. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Mar 27 05:33:55 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:33:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:17:33 -0000 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > when someone comes along who cares about people as much as about economics > and politics, then we may have someone to vote for. I'm not so sure about that. We might end up with a government by the sorts of people who currently run the social work departments - lots of carinmg about people allied with generalised disorganisation and inattention to costs. Perosnally I'd like to see a government that cares about economics; doesn't give a damn about politics; and believes that the economy is there to serve people rather than the other way around. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Mar 27 05:37:12 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:37:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:15:25 +0000 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > >>Bizarre, and more than a little dated. It's kinda weird to hear a writer > >>making pro-censorship arguments. > > > >Can you quote me one of the spots in the essay where he makes pro- > >censorship arguments? > > I'm sure Mike H. will answer for himself, but I think he was referring to > MM's endorsement of Dworkin (who is famously pro-censorship) rather than > anything in the essay you referenced. That's about it. > >At worst, I see MM displaying a sort of smugness along the lines of, > >"you think you're some kind of left-wing progressive, yet you don't > >have a clue that your favorite fiction espouses the sort of > >right-wing ideals that you purport to despise". > Well, I think the problem is in the idea that the political views of > an author are the most important thing about his/her writing. I don't > buy that at all. It's also a weird argument to make in an SF context since it generally deals with "What if?" rather than "What is?". FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Mar 27 05:38:57 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:38:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:02:51 +0000 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > At 13.31 +0000 23.3.2001, M Holmes wrote: > >Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > >> Rocky economic times, systems collapse, politicians saying "You have > >> do this!"....it's all vaguely worrisome. Whose to stop people > >> putting some madman in power who promises to make the trains run on > >> time ....? > > > >Richard Branson? > > Nah, the Virgin trains were pretty bad to begin with! I meant to imply that Richard Branson could certainly save us from some madman in power making the trains run on time. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Mar 27 05:39:58 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:39:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven In-Reply-To: Bob Lennon's message of Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:07:23 EST Message-ID: Bob Lennon writes: > Hello, > Mike Coleman wishes to express that his hard drive has been removed Weren't all the platters working? FoFP ;-) From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Tue Mar 27 05:52:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:52:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Opal Butterfly Message-ID: Just a quick note for other fans of Simon King: the lead guitarist from Opal Butterfly has contacted me with offers of their early singles and photos from the 60s.... I'll post more when I've got something new to download. _______________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield "Simon King and Hawkwind", http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Tue Mar 27 06:01:33 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:01:33 +0200 Subject: Opal Butterfly Message-ID: please aks him about unreleased music as well. This is most important.. Where are those recordings with Lemmy... scott -----Original Message----- From: Steve Litchfield [mailto:slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK] Sent: 27. marts 2001 12:52 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Opal Butterfly Just a quick note for other fans of Simon King: the lead guitarist from Opal Butterfly has contacted me with offers of their early singles and photos from the 60s.... I'll post more when I've got something new to download. _______________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield "Simon King and Hawkwind", http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Tue Mar 27 07:18:53 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:18:53 -0500 Subject: Croydon Message-ID: Sam, I'd be interested to know which album contains that version of 'You Shouldn't Do That'. I'm trying to find as many versions of it as I can but I don't have many of the albums from recent years. Thanks, Alastair. On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:51:23 +0100, Sam Kirwan wrote: >Agree with that entirely. On the Emergency Broadcast Album (might be >collection - can't remember) there is the harshest most industrialised most >spankingly top version of Shouldn't Do That. It's amazing, I couldn't >praise the track enough, no other version since the original has affected me >as much. Tracks lik Black Elk Speaks on Space Bandits and Sputnik Stan >shouldn't be cast off either and the whole of Xenon Codex, Business of the >Future, Electric Teepee even Palace Springs has moments. As a final point >'cos I'm no expert but I don't know of many bands that can turn out more >than ten top class, blinding albums in a lifetime. Hawkwind have >loads....... > >Sam > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Nick Medford [mailto:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] >Sent: 26 March 2001 21:30 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Croydon > > >In message <002e01c0b61f$c49897f0$0100a8c0 at rattus>, John Rennie > writes >>I didn't get there (I didn't even know about it :-( ) and am now deeply >>regretting it. However I have to say that the set seems to owe a lot to >the >>pre 1980 albums. Fair enough, since that's my favourite Hawkwind era too, >>but apart from a few exceptions there just don't seem to be that many >>classic tracks from the post 1980 stuff. I'd be interested to hear what >>others regard as post-1980 classic tracks, or even post 1980 classic >albums. > >Well, they threw a few new numbers into the set, but I think most fans of >the band would accept that '70-'79 were the classic years- responses to the >top 5 albums thread reflect that. The studio output since then has been >patchy but the live shows- and live albums- remain top quality. 'Electric >Tepee' would be my pick as best studio Hawkwind album of the last 20 >years. > >Ten great Hawk-tracks of the last two decades (in no particular order): > >Damage Of Life >Ghost Dance >LSD >Treadmill >Angels Of Death >Dream Worker >Space Is Their Palestine >Hippy >Levitation >TV Suicide > >...there are others... > >How many of these would get in my all-time HW top 10? No more than a >couple. But worth remembering that the band continually re-invent the old >classics too... see any live show for confirmation. > >FWIW I think the main weakness of the more recent output is not the >quality of the good stuff- which remains superb- but the lack of quality >control, with too much second-rank or filler material finding its way onto >the albums. But, I'm grateful that the band still exist as a quality outfit >and >haven't lapsed into self-parody or bloated middle age like so many of their >70s peers. That in itself is an achievement. >-- >Nick Medford > > >*************************************************************************** ******** >The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted >with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention >of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or >copying of this document is unauthorised. > >Thank you >NTL >*************************************************************************** ******** From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Mar 27 08:26:35 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:26:35 +0100 Subject: OFF:Very, but I need help!! Message-ID: Hello everyone, I know that this has absolutley nothing to do with Hawkwind, but I'm stuck with this and it's really starting to piss me off.... Please could someone out there try and open this file/make it work. It won't let me on this computer and I can't figure out why!!! It's a fish screen saver... Cheers Layla. From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Mar 27 08:31:56 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:31:56 +0100 Subject: Very, but I need help!! Message-ID: wot file m8? Sam -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: 27 March 2001 14:27 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF:Very, but I need help!! Hello everyone, I know that this has absolutley nothing to do with Hawkwind, but I'm stuck with this and it's really starting to piss me off.... Please could someone out there try and open this file/make it work. It won't let me on this computer and I can't figure out why!!! It's a fish screen saver... Cheers Layla. *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Mar 27 08:51:51 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:51:51 +0100 Subject: Croydon Message-ID: check out Emergency Broadcast Systems on Amazon.co.uk and it's the only album they have. Think it's called Samples or something like that. I might be able to get a copy of the CD off to you if u need. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Alastair Lee Sumner [mailto:als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK] Sent: 27 March 2001 13:19 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Croydon Sam, I'd be interested to know which album contains that version of 'You Shouldn't Do That'. I'm trying to find as many versions of it as I can but I don't have many of the albums from recent years. Thanks, Alastair. On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:51:23 +0100, Sam Kirwan wrote: >Agree with that entirely. On the Emergency Broadcast Album (might be >collection - can't remember) there is the harshest most industrialised most >spankingly top version of Shouldn't Do That. It's amazing, I couldn't >praise the track enough, no other version since the original has affected me >as much. Tracks lik Black Elk Speaks on Space Bandits and Sputnik Stan >shouldn't be cast off either and the whole of Xenon Codex, Business of the >Future, Electric Teepee even Palace Springs has moments. As a final point >'cos I'm no expert but I don't know of many bands that can turn out more >than ten top class, blinding albums in a lifetime. Hawkwind have >loads....... > >Sam > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Nick Medford [mailto:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] >Sent: 26 March 2001 21:30 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Croydon > > >In message <002e01c0b61f$c49897f0$0100a8c0 at rattus>, John Rennie > writes >>I didn't get there (I didn't even know about it :-( ) and am now deeply >>regretting it. However I have to say that the set seems to owe a lot to >the >>pre 1980 albums. Fair enough, since that's my favourite Hawkwind era too, >>but apart from a few exceptions there just don't seem to be that many >>classic tracks from the post 1980 stuff. I'd be interested to hear what >>others regard as post-1980 classic tracks, or even post 1980 classic >albums. > >Well, they threw a few new numbers into the set, but I think most fans of >the band would accept that '70-'79 were the classic years- responses to the >top 5 albums thread reflect that. The studio output since then has been >patchy but the live shows- and live albums- remain top quality. 'Electric >Tepee' would be my pick as best studio Hawkwind album of the last 20 >years. > >Ten great Hawk-tracks of the last two decades (in no particular order): > >Damage Of Life >Ghost Dance >LSD >Treadmill >Angels Of Death >Dream Worker >Space Is Their Palestine >Hippy >Levitation >TV Suicide > >...there are others... > >How many of these would get in my all-time HW top 10? No more than a >couple. But worth remembering that the band continually re-invent the old >classics too... see any live show for confirmation. > >FWIW I think the main weakness of the more recent output is not the >quality of the good stuff- which remains superb- but the lack of quality >control, with too much second-rank or filler material finding its way onto >the albums. But, I'm grateful that the band still exist as a quality outfit >and >haven't lapsed into self-parody or bloated middle age like so many of their >70s peers. That in itself is an achievement. >-- >Nick Medford > > >*************************************************************************** ******** >The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted >with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention >of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or >copying of this document is unauthorised. > >Thank you >NTL >*************************************************************************** ******** *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Tue Mar 27 09:24:38 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:24:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: >check out Emergency Broadcast Systems on Amazon.co.uk and it's the only >album they have. Think it's called Samples or something like that. I might >be able to get a copy of the CD off to you if u need. Sam There is such a thing as the "Emergency Broadcast Systems Samples" CD, but it *doesn't* feature "You Shouldn't Do That". I think the version you're referring to must be that on "The Business Trip" (which *is* a cracking, if all-too-brief, version). Hope that helps Dave From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 27 09:36:54 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:06:54 +0930 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction Message-ID: Who! Who!! Please tell Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 3:30 AM Subject: Re: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction > Ha!Ha! > > I'm a Lifelike Android Yearning for Logical Assassination > > Sounds about right to me!! > > I know exactly who I'm yearning to assassinate as well!!! > > Layla > > >>> novadrive at HOME.COM 03/25/01 11:50pm >>> > Just when you thought all the marvelous uses of the Internet were exhausted: > http://www.brunching.com/toys/toy-cyborger.html > > KevinSommers From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 27 09:46:38 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:16:38 +0930 Subject: Croydon Message-ID: Theres heaps of classic stuff from the 1980 + era ((I dont claim to be all that knowledgable on Hawkwind history or Hawklore etc butI would list the following as serious classics - Levitation - Motorway City - Dust Of Time - Fifth Second of Forever - Right To Decide - Love In Space - Space is their Palestine - Images - Wings - Out Of The Shadows - { Every track on the chronicle of The Black Sword Studio & Live } - Back In The Box - Treadmill - Arrival In Utopia - Choose Your Masques - LSD - Rocky Paths - etc etc etc Thats all I have to say about that for now...... Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: John Rennie To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 3:38 AM Subject: Croydon > I didn't get there (I didn't even know about it :-( ) and am now deeply > regretting it. However I have to say that the set seems to owe a lot to the > pre 1980 albums. Fair enough, since that's my favourite Hawkwind era too, > but apart from a few exceptions there just don't seem to be that many > classic tracks from the post 1980 stuff. I'd be interested to hear what > others regard as post-1980 classic tracks, or even post 1980 classic albums. > > JR From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Mar 27 09:49:41 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:49:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) In-Reply-To: <001c01c0b6c9$abeea780$fe3b70c2@merlinas> Message-ID: In article <001c01c0b6c9$abeea780$fe3b70c2 at merlinas>, David Bottomley writes >>check out Emergency Broadcast Systems on Amazon.co.uk and it's the only >>album they have. Think it's called Samples or something like that. I >might >>be able to get a copy of the CD off to you if u need. > >Sam > >There is such a thing as the "Emergency Broadcast Systems Samples" CD, but >it *doesn't* feature "You Shouldn't Do That". It might - there are two versions. If you search on Emergency Broadcast System (Not systems) you get to the UK release, which definitely doesn't have it. The one Sam's search (Emergency Broadcast Systems, plural) leads to is an import - but amazon.co.uk doesn't give a track listing for it. -- David Blair From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 27 09:56:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:26:01 +0930 Subject: Croydon Message-ID: I would like to say that I respect your opinion 100% but feel compelled to say that I disagree & Love all of it but mostly late 70's +...... Peace & freedom of expression rox.... Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: bedroom trancer To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 4:30 AM Subject: Re: Croydon > in my honest opinion alot of hawkwinds's post 79's output is pretty good, > but when u start comparing it to anything they did prior to 1980 it just > pales in comparrison. > > > colm > From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Tue Mar 27 10:07:30 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:07:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: Fair enough - I was blissfully unaware of the import version. Anyone know if it has a different track listing to the UK version? Dave >>There is such a thing as the "Emergency Broadcast Systems Samples" CD, but >>it *doesn't* feature "You Shouldn't Do That". > >It might - there are two versions. If you search on Emergency Broadcast >System (Not systems) you get to the UK release, which definitely doesn't >have it. > >The one Sam's search (Emergency Broadcast Systems, plural) leads to is >an import - but amazon.co.uk doesn't give a track listing for it. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 27 10:12:46 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:42:46 +0930 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction Message-ID: YARDWORK - thats the best they could come up with for Y? scmeggg! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Guizar To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: Re: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction > J.E.R.R.Y.: Journeying Electronic Replicant Responsible for Yardwork > G.U.I.Z.A.R.: General Unit Intended for Zealous Assassination and Repair > > AKA > > D.E.L.E.R.I.: Digital Electronic Lifeform Engineered for Repair and > Infiltration From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Mar 27 11:20:40 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:20:40 +0100 Subject: Very, but I need help!! Message-ID: nuts. it doesn't seem to have done that either!! (this isn't my day!) Hang on, I'm going to try again. Layla >>> samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM 03/27/01 02:31pm >>> wot file m8? Sam -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: 27 March 2001 14:27 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF:Very, but I need help!! Hello everyone, I know that this has absolutley nothing to do with Hawkwind, but I'm stuck with this and it's really starting to piss me off.... Please could someone out there try and open this file/make it work. It won't let me on this computer and I can't figure out why!!! It's a fish screen saver... Cheers Layla. *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Tue Mar 27 11:35:32 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:35:32 -0500 Subject: HW: 70's versus now Message-ID: I think that post-1979 Hawkwind has produced as much classic stuff as the 70's era. Let's see... Levitation--I can't say a bad thing about it! Masterpieces in every track! Sonic Attack--a much more patchy album, but it still has "Angels of Death" and "Rocky Paths" and "Living on a Knife Edge" all of which are great, I think. There are a few tracks that don't interest me much, but hey, when a band is as consistently great as Hawkwind, I forgive them for penning a few mediocre tracks every now and then! Their track record is still WAY better than that of the average band. Overall this is probably my least favorite Hawkwind record, but I still like to listen to it. Church of Hawkwind--this is a much weirder album, but after all, that's what I like about Hawkwind: the fact that they aren't afraid to experiment. Sometimes when they venture out on a limb it might not be the greatest thing ever, but I certainly appreciate the fact that they try to stretch themselves a bit. I would hate it if they were mired in a "Doremi Fasol Latido / Space Ritual" mindset. Luckily they aren't! Stonehenge: This is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic--I love this album! In fact it's one of my very favorites. That version of Psi Power is incredible! Choose Your Masques--another very solid record. It's got well-constructed songs just dripping with psychedelia... you have to love Harvey's "If you want to get into it, you've got to get out of it" refrain at the end of the first album side... wisdom for the ages! Zones--some of the production sounds like it could be a home studio recording, but it doesn't matter a bit. After all, Guided By Voices are brilliant and most of their albums are recorded on 4-tracks or just a handheld recorder. Highlights: that great Huw Lloyd-Langton lead on "The Island," Moorcock's dementedly inflectionless "Running Through the Backbrain" and of course a great rendition of "Social Alliance." And you people badmouth this album?!? Chronicle of the Black Sword-- at the time of its release it was seen as sort of a "rebirth" of Hawkwind, implying that they had somehow faltered along the way which wasn't true at all! This is a really great album, but I feel that it is hampered by Danny Thompson's awful plodding drums and some of the heavy metal-isms of the day (like Brock's extremely metal vocals on "Song of the Swords"). That's OK though. All is forgiven, because it's still a wonderful album and it gave us... Live Chronicles--a fine double concept album. It would have been better if Hawkwind could have had a more skillful drummer at the time, but aside from that, I can't really complain about this record at all! Another masterpiece of sorts, really! Out and Intake--I bought this the day of its release and just thought "Wow!" when I heard it, because it was so relatively psychedelic compared to the Black Sword album that preceded it. "Cajun Jinx" is one of my all-time favorite HW songs! Xenon Codex--when I bought this one I thought, "How do Hawkwind keep being so brilliant over such a long career?" I couldn't believe how good it was. Again, the plodding drums of Danny Thompson don't really help things, but I love this record. Huw Lloyd-Langton's best-ever lead is on "Lost Chronicles" and this album has bunches of great songs. Space Bandits--The opening track blew me away because it was my first introduction to Richard Chadwick, and what a difference he makes (especially after enduring Danny Thompson)! "Images" was relentless in its uncharacteristic energies--with those stops and starts and those incredible leads from Simon and Dave, and the contributions of Bridget--a really great song in the Hawkwind catalog! And the fun doesn't stop there! In fact I love every song on this record! Palace Springs--This might be my favorite Hawkwind record ever. Is it really that good? Yes, it is! "Treadmill" is one of the best-ever Hawkwind songs (even if it does recycle some lyrics from one of Dave Brock's solo albums)... I just love the dynamics on that one as it builds into that moody and crazy keyboard extravaganza from Harvey! The dynamics are equally intense on the live recordings, particularly "Golden Void" and "Damnation Alley" where we heard that reggae bit for the first time (which was subsequently inserted into about half a dozen other songs live). A testament to the greatness of Hawkwind! Electric Tepee--A masterpiece, and a double at that! The only low point for me is "Sadness Runs Deep" which I've always felt belonged on a Dave Brock solo album and not here, where it seems so out of place. The many instrumentals on this one are amazing--"Going to Hawaii" is quite a psychic journey, and then the final bit, "Electric Tepee" is an ultimate statement of the Hawkwind credo! It Is The Business of the Future to Be Dangerous--brilliant title, and an equally brilliant album! A more psychedelic, rambling and instrumental affair than previous efforts, nevertheless this is one of my favorites as well. Low on guitar work, but high on keyboard and drum wizardry. The closing track "Avante" is again one of those tracks that seems to sum up the whole ethos of Hawkwind in a couple of minutes of pure molten psychedelia! The Business Trip--This album has my favorite drum production sound, absolutely perfect! This is definitely one of my favorite albums, and it proves that even as a 3-piece Hawkwind were mopping the floor with most other pretenders to the throne of space rock. It is potentially a little over-produced as regards the carefully overdubbed audience noise at key moments, but that's really my only complaint, and it's a very small one! What a fantastic batch of music! Alien 4--This album has some greatness: "Alien I Am" and "Sputnik Stan" and "Blue Skin" (which is really just "I am the eye that looks within" with vocals) and "Journey" (which I have heard people criticize but I think it's an interesting instrumental). I could probably live without "Xenomorph" and the couple of Ron things right before it, but once again I'll forgive Hawkwind for stumbling a little since they do it so rarely in their career! I felt as if the last four tracks or so were just sort of "tacked on" to the end of the record, as they don't really fit in with the theme of the album. "Festivals" in particular should have been on a Brock solo album...it doesn't really seem to fit here. Love in Space--another double live album. Of all the Hawkwind live albums, this one is probably my least favorite. It's OK... but just not that exciting, and I'm not sure why... the performances just seem a little "canned" I guess... Distant Horizons--This album is a bit of a hodge podge, but overall it's really very good. "Phetamine Street" is my favorite track from this one, with "Wheels" being a close second. In Your Area--low on "new" material but heavy on revitalized live and reworked studio stuff, this album is very solid! That performance of "Love in Space" segueing into "Aerospaceage Inferno" is one of the most beautiful things anywhere... Well after having summarized each album I feel that I haven't really said that much but have really just devolved into fanboy slobbering, which is fine since it shows how loved these records are.... basically I am just saying that post-1979 Hawkwind is just as valuable as that of the 1970's. In fact, I probably listen to and enjoy the newer Hawkwind more than the older Hawkwind. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Theres heaps of classic stuff from the 1980 + era ((I dont claim to be all > that knowledgable on Hawkwind history or Hawklore etc butI would list the > following as serious classics - > > Levitation - Motorway City - Dust Of Time - Fifth Second of Forever - Right > To Decide - Love In Space - Space is their Palestine - Images - Wings - Out > Of The Shadows - { Every track on the chronicle of The Black Sword Studio & > Live } - Back In The Box - Treadmill - Arrival In Utopia - Choose Your > Masques - LSD - Rocky Paths - etc etc etc > > Thats all I have to say about that for now...... > > Mb > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Rennie > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 3:38 AM > Subject: Croydon > > > > I didn't get there (I didn't even know about it :-( ) and am now deeply > > regretting it. However I have to say that the set seems to owe a lot to > the > > pre 1980 albums. Fair enough, since that's my favourite Hawkwind era too, > > but apart from a few exceptions there just don't seem to be that many > > classic tracks from the post 1980 stuff. I'd be interested to hear what > > others regard as post-1980 classic tracks, or even post 1980 classic > albums. > > > > JR > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Mar 27 11:35:39 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:35:39 +0100 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless KnightWantingInfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction Message-ID: I want to kill my boss. He a tight arsed twat and I hate him with a vengance!! I'm the youngest member of staff here. One of only two full time members of staff (me and the boss!). And he takes advantage of that all the time. I am tret like shit at work and I hate it. I want him DEAD!!!!!!!! DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahem, anyway. Now you know who I want to kill. I'm only staying here cause I get fairly good pay. Everyone......repeat after me...... "Ian Hey is a little piece of shit and we will all wish death upon him" Thank you, Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/27/01 03:36pm >>> Who! Who!! Please tell Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 3:30 AM Subject: Re: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight WantingInfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction > Ha!Ha! > > I'm a Lifelike Android Yearning for Logical Assassination > > Sounds about right to me!! > > I know exactly who I'm yearning to assassinate as well!!! > > Layla > > >>> novadrive at HOME.COM 03/25/01 11:50pm >>> > Just when you thought all the marvelous uses of the Internet were exhausted: > http://www.brunching.com/toys/toy-cyborger.html > > KevinSommers From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Mar 27 11:58:48 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:58:48 -0600 Subject: CALVERT Message-ID: Can anyone tell me the full length of the CALVERT recording-centigrade 232 readings? THANKS STEPHE From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Mar 27 12:09:16 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:09:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven Message-ID: It won't let me send it. (My fish file) Says, "service is unavailable. server has permanent fatal errors" Bugger. I really want to know why it won't work!! I hate computers when they won't work. Anyone know? it says "File can not be opened. It is not a fax image" when I try to open it. I have tried opening it through everything!!!!!!!!!! I'm going to go into a dark corner now, and take deep breaths. Layla From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Mar 27 12:09:20 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:09:20 -0500 Subject: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list Message-ID: Yes I have NEVER understood what people didn't like about Alien 4. I have loved it since the first day. Especially the mid to end of the CD. Simply outstanding work. Mike Maxine Wesley wrote: > Insomnia reigned over the weekend and feeling desirous of listening to > something unfamiliar/distracting I got out the copy of Alien 4 which hadn't > been played since being purchased a couple of years ago (initial play of > album not fully appreciated!) -I subsequently played it a few more times > over the weekend just to make sure it wasn't delirium induced appreciation. > It has now been elevated to one of my favourite albums (fickle or what!.) - > especially for times where total immersion is required. > > M at xine > Mechanical Android eXperienced in Infiltration and Nocturnal Exploration > How very apt! > > -- "Look at me: I worked my way up from nothing to a state of extreme poverty." -- Groucho Marx From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Mar 27 12:12:07 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:12:07 +0100 Subject: CALVERT In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6D83@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: In article <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6D83 at hermes.marketday.co m>, Stephen Lindas writes >Can anyone tell me the full length of the CALVERT recording-centigrade 232 >readings? THANKS STEPHE And who's reading them - the ones I've heard definitely aren't Bob Calvert. -- David Blair From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Mar 27 12:11:19 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:11:19 -0600 Subject: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list Message-ID: I think the ALIEN lp is the best lp since SPACE BANDITS, probably my fav of the 90's STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Michael S. Habiby [mailto:mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 11:09 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list Yes I have NEVER understood what people didn't like about Alien 4. I have loved it since the first day. Especially the mid to end of the CD. Simply outstanding work. Mike Maxine Wesley wrote: > Insomnia reigned over the weekend and feeling desirous of listening to > something unfamiliar/distracting I got out the copy of Alien 4 which hadn't > been played since being purchased a couple of years ago (initial play of > album not fully appreciated!) -I subsequently played it a few more times > over the weekend just to make sure it wasn't delirium induced appreciation. > It has now been elevated to one of my favourite albums (fickle or what!.) - > especially for times where total immersion is required. > > M at xine > Mechanical Android eXperienced in Infiltration and Nocturnal Exploration > How very apt! > > -- "Look at me: I worked my way up from nothing to a state of extreme poverty." -- Groucho Marx From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Mar 27 12:12:37 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:12:37 -0600 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven Message-ID: Sound like computer suicide to me. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 11:09 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven It won't let me send it. (My fish file) Says, "service is unavailable. server has permanent fatal errors" Bugger. I really want to know why it won't work!! I hate computers when they won't work. Anyone know? it says "File can not be opened. It is not a fax image" when I try to open it. I have tried opening it through everything!!!!!!!!!! I'm going to go into a dark corner now, and take deep breaths. Layla From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Mar 27 12:13:48 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:13:48 -0600 Subject: CALVERT Message-ID: Are you serious? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Tigger [mailto:Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 11:12 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: CALVERT In article <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6D83 at hermes.marketday.co m>, Stephen Lindas writes >Can anyone tell me the full length of the CALVERT recording-centigrade 232 >readings? THANKS STEPHE And who's reading them - the ones I've heard definitely aren't Bob Calvert. -- David Blair From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue Mar 27 12:18:39 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:18:39 EST Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven Message-ID: uh, what's a platter? bob In a message dated 3/27/01 5:40:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > Bob Lennon writes: > > > Hello, > > > Mike Coleman wishes to express that his hard drive has been removed > > Weren't all the platters working? > > FoFP ;-) > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Mar 27 12:26:12 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:26:12 -0600 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Layla Thompson wrote: :Subject: Re: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven : :It won't let me send it. (My fish file) : :Says, "service is unavailable. server has permanent fatal errors" : :Bugger. : :I really want to know why it won't work!! I hate computers when they won't work. : :Anyone know? it says "File can not be opened. It is not a fax image" when I try to open it. : :I have tried opening it through everything!!!!!!!!!! : :I'm going to go into a dark corner now, and take deep breaths. : :Layla Layla, It sounds like the file is of the wrong mime type. Are you running MacOS, Windows, Unix, or other? If on a MacOS machine, try hitting (open apple key) i, then change the association (you may need a disk file editor for this.) on a windows machine, try renaming the file extension to .exe. For a unix machine, it would depend on what X server (and screen saver) you were running. Failing all of that, see if you can open up the file in a Text Editor. Is it ascii or if binary, the first few lines may include a correct file format. If that doesn't work, see if you can hunt down a decent hex editor. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From john at JMAIL.FSBUSINESS.CO.UK Tue Mar 27 12:45:44 2001 From: john at JMAIL.FSBUSINESS.CO.UK (John Rennie) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:45:44 +0100 Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A few years ago when I first got a CDR I put together a "best of" album with just tracks from the pre Calvert albums. I had to leave some off because my favourites wouldn't fit into 74 minutes! I've finally managed to find CDs of all the Calvert albums except PXR5 and in due course I'll make a "best of" compilation from the Calvert albums. Incidently if anyone knows where I can get a copy of PXR5 on CD, preferably the Virgin UK release, please let me know! Actually the best of album didn't work as well as I thought. I think it's too much having all your favourite tracks one after the other. You need some less well loved tracks in between to provide some contrast. Mind you I don't know if anyone remembers the compilation album Repeat Performance released by Charisma some time around 1979. This is pretty close to being a definitive best of the Calvert albums. Sadly it never made it to CD. JR -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Chuck Rosenberg Sent: 27 March 2001 06:25 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) In a message dated 3/26/01 1:19:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > Hmmm ... couldn't fit that "greatest hits" package on a single CD ... > > -Doug we did this awhile ago, though i think it was just '80s. Lemme see what comes off the top of my head this time... 1.Ghost Dance ... From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 27 13:13:56 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:13:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth Message-ID: you just say it better than I do - neatly summed up. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 11:33 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth > ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > > when someone comes along who cares about people as much as about economics > > and politics, then we may have someone to vote for. > > I'm not so sure about that. We might end up with a government by the > sorts of people who currently run the social work departments - lots of > carinmg about people allied with generalised disorganisation and > inattention to costs. > > Perosnally I'd like to see a government that cares about economics; > doesn't give a damn about politics; and believes that the economy is > there to serve people rather than the other way around. > > FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 27 13:28:38 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:28:38 +0100 Subject: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless KnightWantingInfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction Message-ID: wow!!!!! Can't think of anyone I've felt that way about although I came close with a guy I used to work with one time - they hoisted him on me way back, and I was in an office for a year with very little heating and no windows that opened, trapped with a guy who played nothing - and I mean NOTHING - but the Smiths and the Macc Lads, day in day out.. How I did not strangle him is actually a minor miracle. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless KnightWantingInfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction > I want to kill my boss. > > He a tight arsed twat and I hate him with a vengance!! > > I'm the youngest member of staff here. One of only two full time members of staff (me and the boss!). And he takes advantage of that all the time. > > I am tret like shit at work and I hate it. I want him DEAD!!!!!!!! > > DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Ahem, anyway. Now you know who I want to kill. > > I'm only staying here cause I get fairly good pay. > > Everyone......repeat after me...... "Ian Hey is a little piece of shit and we will all wish death upon him" > > Thank you, > > Layla > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/27/01 03:36pm >>> > Who! Who!! > > Please tell > > Mb > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Layla Thompson > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 3:30 AM > Subject: Re: Off: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D.: Hydraulic And Wireless Knight > WantingInfiltration and Nocturnal Destruction > > > > Ha!Ha! > > > > I'm a Lifelike Android Yearning for Logical Assassination > > > > Sounds about right to me!! > > > > I know exactly who I'm yearning to assassinate as well!!! > > > > Layla > > > > >>> novadrive at HOME.COM 03/25/01 11:50pm >>> > > Just when you thought all the marvelous uses of the Internet were > exhausted: > > http://www.brunching.com/toys/toy-cyborger.html > > > > KevinSommers From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Mar 27 13:30:43 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:30:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven Message-ID: say what? Glad it's not me having to figure this lot out. Andy 'luddite' Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 6:26 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven > On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Layla Thompson wrote: > > :Subject: Re: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven > : > :It won't let me send it. (My fish file) > : > :Says, "service is unavailable. server has permanent fatal errors" > : > :Bugger. > : > :I really want to know why it won't work!! I hate computers when they won't work. > : > :Anyone know? it says "File can not be opened. It is not a fax image" when I try to open it. > : > :I have tried opening it through everything!!!!!!!!!! > : > :I'm going to go into a dark corner now, and take deep breaths. > : > :Layla > > Layla, > > It sounds like the file is of the wrong mime type. Are you running MacOS, > Windows, Unix, or other? > > If on a MacOS machine, try hitting (open apple key) i, then change the > association (you may need a disk file editor for this.) > > on a windows machine, try renaming the file extension to .exe. > > For a unix machine, it would depend on what X server (and screen > saver) you were running. > > Failing all of that, see if you can open up the file in a Text Editor. > Is it ascii or if binary, the first few lines may include a correct file > format. > > If that doesn't work, see if you can hunt down a decent hex editor. > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Mar 27 13:20:28 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:20:28 +0100 Subject: CALVERT Message-ID: The copy I have came from Harbour Publications, and is signed by Bob. There's no question that he reads it, if in a somewhat subdued delivery. Its on two sides of a C60 and (from memory) covers all the poems in the book. I undertand that Harbour were also offering Earth Ritual in a similar vein - although I got the book, the tapes I ordered never materialised and then Bob died soon after. Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 5:58 PM Subject: CALVERT > Can anyone tell me the full length of the CALVERT recording-centigrade 232 > readings? THANKS STEPHE From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Mar 27 13:35:10 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:35:10 +0100 Subject: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list Message-ID: This is weird but I listened to this album twice when I bought it then put it away, it does seem far better than I remembered it. Actually good. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark cotton" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list > I, too, think that 'Alien4' is a superb album. > > Mr C. > > > >From: Maxine Wesley > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list > >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:33:15 +0000 > > > >Insomnia reigned over the weekend and feeling desirous of listening to > >something unfamiliar/distracting I got out the copy of Alien 4 which hadn't > >been played since being purchased a couple of years ago (initial play of > >album not fully appreciated!) -I subsequently played it a few more times > >over the weekend just to make sure it wasn't delirium induced appreciation. > >It has now been elevated to one of my favourite albums (fickle or what!.) - > >especially for times where total immersion is required. > > > >M at xine > >Mechanical Android eXperienced in Infiltration and Nocturnal Exploration > >How very apt! > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Mar 27 13:48:18 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:48:18 -0500 Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: JR said... >Mind you I >don't know if anyone remembers the compilation album Repeat Performance >released by Charisma some time around 1979. Yeah, I'm sure there's nobody here who has a copy of that! :) I don't actually have one, myself, it being redundant, but I know my brother has one. >This is pretty close to being a >definitive best of the Calvert albums. Sadly it never made it to CD. Well, Tales from Atomhenge fills that void easily. Nearly twice the length, too. Grakkl (FAA) ObCD: The Black Sun Ensemble (yeah, we got a promo from Tony) ObotherCD: Black Sun Ensemble - Tragic Magic (the live one, that has the rest of the mid-80s demos as well, I now see) From christmu at EUNET.NO Tue Mar 27 14:59:27 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:59:27 +0200 Subject: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D. Message-ID: C.H.R.I.S.: Cybernetic Humanoid Responsible for Infiltration and Sabotage M.U.M.F.O.R.D.: Mechanical Upgraded Machine Fabricated for Online Repair and Destruction I can live with this :) Chr. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Mar 27 14:14:43 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:14:43 EDT Subject: H.A.W.K.W.I.N.D. In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010327215606.00953930@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 404 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Mar 27 15:35:04 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:35:04 -0500 Subject: HW:Re Croydon Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 04:07:22 EST, Al Ogilvy wrote: > ...I've just played distant horizons >for the first time since i first brought it....I hated it in '97.... >played it once and filed it and forgot about it....I've only just >dug it out now because of Clouded Vision ... This time >around its much better....Clouded vision is really quite a strong >song and hopefully the version played live at Croydon will surface >again...Wheels also repays more listening As do the "Brock Solo " >pieces, I especially like Taxi for Max, but IMHO the Album still >has to be the most disjointed ragbag of bits and pieces to appear >under the HW name OFFICIALLY and with Daves full blessing , that >I've heard so far. Playing it now it seems more like a >collection of Solo pieces than an album. Second most disjointed. 'Distant Horizons' still doesn't hold a candle to 'Out & Intake' (although at least the title of that one makes no pretentions of being anything BUT...). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Mar 27 15:39:08 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:39:08 -0500 Subject: Croydon Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:51:51 +0100, Sam Kirwan wrote: >check out Emergency Broadcast Systems on Amazon.co.uk and it's the only >album they have. Think it's called Samples or something like that. I >might be able to get a copy of the CD off to you if u need. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alastair Lee Sumner [mailto:als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK] >Sent: 27 March 2001 13:19 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Croydon > > >Sam, I'd be interested to know which album contains that version of 'You >Shouldn't Do That'. I'm trying to find as many versions of it as I can but >I don't have many of the albums from recent years. Would it be the short version (aka "Do That", so they didn't have to credit the -ahem- original co-author) on 'The Business Trip'? That's a pretty ripping version of at least the main riff. I wish it went on for longer ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Mar 27 15:49:32 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:49:32 -0500 Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: That's a great song! One of the things I like most about the 77/78 lineup is the superb sense of melodicism that Simon House and Adrian Shaw (co- authors of "Jack of Shadows" IIRC) brought to the band. Very evident in Simon's compositions ("High Rise", "Damnation Alley" midsection, and the various instrumentals). And Adrian Shaw's bass playing is as diametrically opposed to the Lemmy/Davey model as you could possibly imagine. Yet, he fit in with Hawkwind perfectly. Just another example of the band being willing to re-invent themselves and not stay stuck in the same old rut ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:33:10 -0000, mark cotton wrote: >70's and earlier good, eh? What about that pop song 'Jack of Shadows' - >with a boppy chorus for Christ's sake! From novadrive at HOME.COM Tue Mar 27 17:05:39 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:05:39 -0700 Subject: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list In-Reply-To: <3AC0C940.3080500@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: And I'd LOVE to hear 'Beam Me Up' live! KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Michael S. Habiby Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 10:09 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list Yes I have NEVER understood what people didn't like about Alien 4. I have loved it since the first day. Especially the mid to end of the CD. Simply outstanding work. Mike Maxine Wesley wrote: > Insomnia reigned over the weekend and feeling desirous of listening to > something unfamiliar/distracting I got out the copy of Alien 4 which hadn't > been played since being purchased a couple of years ago (initial play of > album not fully appreciated!) -I subsequently played it a few more times > over the weekend just to make sure it wasn't delirium induced appreciation. > It has now been elevated to one of my favourite albums (fickle or what!.) - > especially for times where total immersion is required. > > M at xine > Mechanical Android eXperienced in Infiltration and Nocturnal Exploration > How very apt! > > -- "Look at me: I worked my way up from nothing to a state of extreme poverty." -- Groucho Marx From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Mar 27 17:24:46 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:24:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Weirdo 5 CD Sources Message-ID: Hi, Can anyone confirm the sources of the tracks on Weird 5 ? Original promo material for the tape says : Flying Dr - Hawklords July 78 Streets - Ham Nov 76 Lagoons (Skyway) - Ham 76 Paranoia - Ham 76 Streets - Ham 76 Assassins - Dunstable 77 Vulcan - Dunstable 77 Steppenwolf - Oxford 77 Where Are They Now? - Hawklords July 77 I'm assuming that the inclusion of Streets twice was a typo error. 2nd version of tape then issued for which I have Streets - Ham 76 Lagoons (Skyway) - Ham 76 Brainstorm - Ham 77 Wind - Ham 77 Assassins - Ham 77 Vulcan - Ham 77 Steppenwolf - Ham 77 Where? - HL - Summer 78 CD has same track list as 2nd version of tape, although we have the US Radio advert for QS&C inserted after Steppenwolf. I guess my question has to be is Assassins / Vulcan & Steppenwolf the same on both tapes? If so, which venues should be take as being the correct ones? Any thoughts on year of Where Are They Now? ? Don't bother telling me what it says on any printed material that comes with the tapes or CD. I may as well ask my 18 month old son! Anyone got the ears for this sort of thing? (Doug, Bernhard)? Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 27 23:21:53 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:51:53 +0930 Subject: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list Message-ID: My copy of Alien 4 arrived in the mail today.... Yipeee Indeed it is a cool album I suppose one day I'll be like most folks here - that have heard it all and eagerly await a new release Still a few to go yet :) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael S. Habiby To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 2:39 AM Subject: Re: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list > Yes I have NEVER understood what people didn't like about Alien 4. I > have loved it since the first day. Especially the mid to end of the > CD. Simply outstanding work. > > Mike > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Mar 27 23:19:56 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:49:56 +0930 Subject: OFF the boss is a smegghead Message-ID: Maybe he thinks your a babe but is scared of all that sexual harrasment in the workplace stuff so he gives you shit to cover it up?? Or maybe he's very frustrated in more ways than one?? Or maybe his wife spends a bit too much time with the football team?? I don't know - just a guess...... Instead of wishing death upon him ...... try this Send him these items: (1) Flowers (2) A dirty magazine (3) quality lube gel His possible reactions would be thus: (1) He will be touched by the flowers and get a laugh out of the magazine and gel as he throws the smutty gear away and places the flowers into a vase (2) He'll throw the flowers away and delve into the smutty gear with a vengence Either way it should make an improvement on his demeanor Unless of course he's allergic to flowers and gets bad hayfever & he is impotent and finds the dirty mags etc to be some sort of a cruel joke - then he will be shittier than ever........ Thats a tough one Layla :>| Mb From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 28 00:04:42 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:34:42 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind - festival fever revisited Message-ID: Hi Star Warriors!!!! Great news!!! The petition I started on the electric tepee is getting noticed!!!! It sounds like it is having a positive effect on the potential POSITIVE verdict..... So If you think that you are just one person & won't make a difference you are WRONG!!!! You & Her & Him & Them and ME adding our wishes together on that magic list will make all the difference - It's allready starting to happen. If you LOVE HAWKWIND [({ and I know you DO!!! })] (as much as I do and everyone else that has taken the time to add their comments / c'mon - I know your getting around to it!) Then Join in and have your say now: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/hawkwind_votes.htm One more thing - Who would rather have the festival in the summer or in January I think it would be better in the summer? If we don't pull together and say what we want then it may well go ahead in January.... Its up to us now ladies & gents...... "First you must see it in your minds eye - Then project it out into reality by way of action - and there it is......................" ........it's so easy......... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Wed Mar 28 01:10:47 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:10:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: Apologies!!! Right album - wrong track title - can't help being blonde. Went home last night and dug it out - the track is Sonic Destruction (Advent Re-mix) lifted from 'Rituals of the Solstice'. It's still a banging track though just make sure you listen to it uncomfortably loudly! Agian sorry for being a thickie!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: David Bottomley [mailto:merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK] Sent: 27 March 2001 16:08 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) Fair enough - I was blissfully unaware of the import version. Anyone know if it has a different track listing to the UK version? Dave >>There is such a thing as the "Emergency Broadcast Systems Samples" CD, but >>it *doesn't* feature "You Shouldn't Do That". > >It might - there are two versions. If you search on Emergency Broadcast >System (Not systems) you get to the UK release, which definitely doesn't >have it. > >The one Sam's search (Emergency Broadcast Systems, plural) leads to is >an import - but amazon.co.uk doesn't give a track listing for it. *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Wed Mar 28 02:08:27 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:08:27 -0500 Subject: HW:Vinyl Trade Help Required Message-ID: Hi, Some advice required. I have recently retrieved my entire vinyl collection and need to dispose of it for two main reasons. 1. I have no space to store the things. 2. I have no record player these days and have no plans to get one in the future. I am planning to advertise the complete collection here. It may take some time 'cause I have a lot of albums and 12" singles to check through. Having never traded any items before and not wanting to rip anybody off (myself included) I need some advice. Should I just produce a long list of all the items and then wait for enquiries to flood in - this will take some time as I only have email access at work? Should I advertise the items in batches (say 5 at a time) and deal with them before I advertise the next batch? Also, I haven't got a clue about gradings; I know the terms mint, excellent, good, fair etc.. but don't really have anything to compare against. And... how about mailing things out. How should I organise things? A few examples just to whet the appetites: Hawkwind by Hawkwind - gatefold sleeve on Liberty records. The catch is that I bought this second hand and there are some transfers (1 or 2 words) on the cover. In Search of Space by Hawkwind - fold out cover on UA; with the log book if I can trace it. Again, it was bought second hand and is only in fair condition. A couple of 12" singles by Balaam & the Angel - may be worth a few bob? Tell me ..... Should do that.... Shouldn't do that! Now time to get on my Silver Machine and back to work. Mark From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Mar 28 03:21:11 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:21:11 +0100 Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: John, Repeat Performance is an absolute stunner of a compilation album. I also love the picture of the Baron on the back. Now if I could get that picture in a 10 X 8, I'd get it signed by the man and frame it. Regards Iain John Rennie wrote: > A few years ago when I first got a CDR I put together a "best of" album with > just tracks from the pre Calvert albums. I had to leave some off because my > favourites wouldn't fit into 74 minutes! I've finally managed to find CDs > of all the Calvert albums except PXR5 and in due course I'll make a "best > of" compilation from the Calvert albums. > > Incidently if anyone knows where I can get a copy of PXR5 on CD, preferably > the Virgin UK release, please let me know! > > Actually the best of album didn't work as well as I thought. I think it's > too much having all your favourite tracks one after the other. You need > some less well loved tracks in between to provide some contrast. Mind you I > don't know if anyone remembers the compilation album Repeat Performance > released by Charisma some time around 1979. This is pretty close to being a > definitive best of the Calvert albums. Sadly it never made it to CD. > > JR > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Chuck Rosenberg > Sent: 27 March 2001 06:25 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) > > In a message dated 3/26/01 1:19:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, > ceres at SIRIUS.COM > writes: > > > Hmmm ... couldn't fit that "greatest hits" package on a single CD ... > > > > -Doug > > we did this awhile ago, though i think it was just '80s. Lemme see what > comes > off the top of my head this time... > > 1.Ghost Dance > ... From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Wed Mar 28 03:22:40 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:22:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: I'm going to kill the sound engineer if I ever get my hands on him. Much as I love Alan's playing, being able to hear that to the virtual exclusion of all else for most of the gig is somewhat frustrating - Dave's guitar was inaudible and Jerry's was most of the time. Technical hitch (what did happen to Richard?) was unfortunate, but the version of High Rise they pulled off was good, followed by some great Space Ritual poetry ad hoc from Ron - I still think they could do without him (especially since they had up to 10 people on-stage tonight at some point...), but he's getting better each gig I see him. If he just concentrated on the Calvert stuff, I think I'd enjoy seeing him full-time. Getting back to Croydon...I can't recall the entire set-list, but there was definitely (and in probably the wrong order too): Hmm. I had very good sound almost all night. Could hear Everyone. 7 rows back right in front of the PA on the left(not bad considering I got my tickets about 7:15pm!). I think it`s definitly where you are in this place. Same thing happened last year. I had awful sound all night but others said it was fine. Si gig/sound/meeting/Bedouin guitarist ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr Mark Jermy Automotive, Combustion and Energy Engineering School of Mechanical Engineering Cranfield University Cranfield, Beds, MK43 0AL, Great Britain Tel +44 1234 754680 Fax +44 1234 750425 http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/sme/aeod/homepage.htm From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Wed Mar 28 03:32:07 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:32:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: My humble apologies for the jumbled quotes and appended crap I've just sent. Pressed the Send button too early. Croydon was fantastic. I'd not heard Bedouin before, they were great, walked on stage and the blanga just STARTED. Who is the guitarist? The sound quality seems to have varied for people.. near the front, I got mostly Alan's bass, which I'm not complaining about. I couldn't make out Dave though, and Ron's vocal clarity varied. The atmosphere was superb, friendly, good humour. I loved the point at which the security realised they were trapped and outnumbered between two anything but hostile forces! Plus the Ken Barlow mantra- seek inner peace through soap operas. Sorry I didn't make the meet in the George- I'd not picked up emails for a couple of days and the only person I was expecting/looking out for was Stuart Hamilton.. sorry Stuart if you were there, I didn't recognise you. Did nayone else meet up? Cheers, Mark From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Mar 28 05:32:04 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:32:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven In-Reply-To: Bob Lennon's message of Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:18:39 EST Message-ID: Bob Lennon writes: > > > Mike Coleman wishes to express that his hard drive has been > > > removed > > Weren't all the platters working? > uh, what's a platter? Before your time. FoFP From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Mar 28 06:06:13 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:06:13 +0100 Subject: Croydon In-Reply-To: <001f01c0b761$9348b3e0$8f38fa8a@resnet.cranfield.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Croydon was fantastic. I'd not heard Bedouin before, they were > great, walked > on stage and the blanga just STARTED. Who is the guitarist? New boy Glenn Povey. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Mar 28 06:17:50 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:17:50 -0600 Subject: CALVERT Message-ID: HI, Could it be possible that each side of the tape is the same? My copy is 20 minutes long,and seems to go on forever.60 minutes is an awful long time, or is there really that much poetry,for it to go that long? CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck [mailto:starfield at SUPANET.COM] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:20 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: CALVERT The copy I have came from Harbour Publications, and is signed by Bob. There's no question that he reads it, if in a somewhat subdued delivery. Its on two sides of a C60 and (from memory) covers all the poems in the book. I undertand that Harbour were also offering Earth Ritual in a similar vein - although I got the book, the tapes I ordered never materialised and then Bob died soon after. Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 5:58 PM Subject: CALVERT > Can anyone tell me the full length of the CALVERT recording-centigrade 232 > readings? THANKS STEPHE From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 28 07:05:53 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:35:53 +0930 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: i'LL BET SOME FOLKS SAID THE SAME SORT OF STUFF ABOUT bOB cALVERT WHEN HE FIRST GOT UP AND STARTED doing his thing All opinions respected 100% So heres mine They aint nothing wrong with RonTree ( He's cool man) Let the man have his space to be creative and express himself is all I say Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Jermy To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: HW: Croydon > I'm going to kill the sound engineer if I ever get my hands on him. Much as > I love Alan's playing, being able to hear that to the virtual exclusion of > all else for most of the gig is somewhat frustrating - Dave's guitar was > inaudible and Jerry's was most of the time. > > Technical hitch (what did happen to Richard?) was unfortunate, but the > version of High Rise they pulled off was good, followed by some great Space > Ritual poetry ad hoc from Ron - I still think they could do without him > (especially since they had up to 10 people on-stage tonight at some > point...), but he's getting better each gig I see him. If he just > concentrated on the Calvert stuff, I think I'd enjoy seeing him full-time. > > Getting back to Croydon...I can't recall the entire set-list, but there was > definitely (and in probably the wrong order too): > > Hmm. I had very good sound almost all night. Could hear Everyone. 7 rows > back right in front of the PA on the left(not bad considering I got my > tickets about 7:15pm!). I think it`s definitly where you are in this place. > Same thing happened last year. I had awful sound all night but others said > it was fine. > > Si > > gig/sound/meeting/Bedouin guitarist > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dr Mark Jermy > Automotive, Combustion and Energy Engineering > School of Mechanical Engineering > Cranfield University > Cranfield, Beds, MK43 0AL, Great Britain > Tel +44 1234 754680 Fax +44 1234 750425 > http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/sme/aeod/homepage.htm > From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Wed Mar 28 07:06:45 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:06:45 -0500 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: Sam, now I'm really confused :) So it isn't a version of 'You Shouldn't Do That' under a different name or anything? I might get the CD anyway, it's only a fiver on Amazon. Does anyone know of any other versions of 'You Shouldn't Do That' that I may not know about? The ones that I can remember off the top of my head are: In Search Of Space original version. RoadHawks version on Space Ritual CD and other places. Text Of Festival, at least on the vinyl edition. The Business Trip Live, great modern version but miles too short. Any others? Regards, Alastair. On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:10:47 +0100, Sam Kirwan wrote: >Apologies!!! Right album - wrong track title - can't help being blonde. >Went home last night and dug it out - the track is Sonic Destruction (Advent >Re-mix) lifted from 'Rituals of the Solstice'. It's still a banging track >though just make sure you listen to it uncomfortably loudly! > >Agian sorry for being a thickie!! > >Sam > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Bottomley [mailto:merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK] >Sent: 27 March 2001 16:08 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) > > >Fair enough - I was blissfully unaware of the import version. Anyone know if >it has a different track listing to the UK version? > >Dave > >>>There is such a thing as the "Emergency Broadcast Systems Samples" CD, but >>>it *doesn't* feature "You Shouldn't Do That". >> >>It might - there are two versions. If you search on Emergency Broadcast >>System (Not systems) you get to the UK release, which definitely doesn't >>have it. >> >>The one Sam's search (Emergency Broadcast Systems, plural) leads to is >>an import - but amazon.co.uk doesn't give a track listing for it. > > >*************************************************************************** ******** >The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted >with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention >of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or >copying of this document is unauthorised. > >Thank you >NTL >*************************************************************************** ******** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Wed Mar 28 07:13:58 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: Get the CD - definitely, whilst listening to it again last night I remembered what I'd been missing and may well be at Aldershot this weekend!! Haven't seen them since Xmas after all. What's the longest time anyone's gone between HW gigs I wonder. Mine's 20 months I'm desperately ashamed to say - never again, NEVER!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Alastair Lee Sumner [mailto:als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK] Sent: 28 March 2001 13:07 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) Sam, now I'm really confused :) So it isn't a version of 'You Shouldn't Do That' under a different name or anything? I might get the CD anyway, it's only a fiver on Amazon. Does anyone know of any other versions of 'You Shouldn't Do That' that I may not know about? The ones that I can remember off the top of my head are: In Search Of Space original version. RoadHawks version on Space Ritual CD and other places. Text Of Festival, at least on the vinyl edition. The Business Trip Live, great modern version but miles too short. Any others? Regards, Alastair. On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:10:47 +0100, Sam Kirwan wrote: >Apologies!!! Right album - wrong track title - can't help being blonde. >Went home last night and dug it out - the track is Sonic Destruction (Advent >Re-mix) lifted from 'Rituals of the Solstice'. It's still a banging track >though just make sure you listen to it uncomfortably loudly! > >Agian sorry for being a thickie!! > >Sam > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Bottomley [mailto:merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK] >Sent: 27 March 2001 16:08 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) > > >Fair enough - I was blissfully unaware of the import version. Anyone know if >it has a different track listing to the UK version? > >Dave > >>>There is such a thing as the "Emergency Broadcast Systems Samples" CD, but >>>it *doesn't* feature "You Shouldn't Do That". >> >>It might - there are two versions. If you search on Emergency Broadcast >>System (Not systems) you get to the UK release, which definitely doesn't >>have it. >> >>The one Sam's search (Emergency Broadcast Systems, plural) leads to is >>an import - but amazon.co.uk doesn't give a track listing for it. > > >*************************************************************************** ******** >The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted >with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention >of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or >copying of this document is unauthorised. > >Thank you >NTL >*************************************************************************** ******** *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Mar 28 07:19:29 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:19:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) In-Reply-To: Alastair Lee Sumner's message of Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:06:45 -0500 Message-ID: Alastair Lee Sumner writes: > I might get the CD anyway, it's only a fiver on Amazon. Does anyone > know of any other versions of 'You Shouldn't Do That' that I may not > know about? The ones that I can remember off the top of my head are: > In Search Of Space original version. RoadHawks version on Space > Ritual CD and other places. Text Of Festival, at least on the vinyl > edition. The Business Trip Live, great modern version but miles too > short. > Any others? >From the Codex: You Shouldn't Do That 1 X In Search Of Space 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] L 2 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 L 2 a In The Beginning L 2 a The Text Of Festival L 2 a Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 L 3 The Text of Festival LP {Sound Shouldn't Improvise} L 3 The Text of Festival CD {Improvise, Comprise, Reprise} L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II CD L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] L 4 Acid Daze Vol. III L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. III LP L 4 The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind L 4 Night Riding L 4 The Hawkwind Collection LP L 4 Space Is Deep L 4 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) L 4 a Roadhawks L 4 a Stasis L 4 a (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords L 4 a Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] L 4 a Space Ritual Alive [remastered CD only] L 4 b Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] L 5 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II {Watchfield Festival} L 5 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] {Watchfield Festival} L 5 Acid Daze Vol. II {Watchfield Festival} L 6 Glastonbury 90 {Shouldn't Do That} L 7 Rock City L 8 The Business Trip {Do That} * Two versions of this on Text Of Festival The CD track is misnamed for another track on the album. * 2a is a cut of 2 * On 4-4b You Shouldn't Do That formed the 1st half of a segue with Seeing It As You Really Are as the encore to Space Ritual Alive * 4 is the complete version plus intro * 4a is version 4 with a cut intro * 4b is version 4 with no intro * The Watchfield festival track is a jam starting with You Shouldn't Do That * This occurs twice on the Anthology albums since it's also part of the track Watchfield Festival From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Mar 28 07:28:50 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:28:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: Longest break, Was unfortunately from the 97 ? tour ( distant horizons) The tour after the Alien tour anyway,where I saw them at Newport till the Hawkestra. last OCtober, so I think thats 3 years ( oh god is it really that long). Hopefully the guys will come to Bristol or the Bath Pavillion soon. regards Iain Sam Kirwan wrote: > Get the CD - definitely, whilst listening to it again last night I > remembered what I'd been missing and may well be at Aldershot this weekend!! > Haven't seen them since Xmas after all. What's the longest time anyone's > gone between HW gigs I wonder. Mine's 20 months I'm desperately ashamed to > say - never again, NEVER!! > > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alastair Lee Sumner [mailto:als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK] > Sent: 28 March 2001 13:07 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) > > Sam, now I'm really confused :) So it isn't a version of 'You Shouldn't Do > That' under a different name or anything? > > I might get the CD anyway, it's only a fiver on Amazon. Does anyone know of > any other versions of 'You Shouldn't Do That' that I may not know about? > The ones that I can remember off the top of my head are: > > In Search Of Space original version. > RoadHawks version on Space Ritual CD and other places. > Text Of Festival, at least on the vinyl edition. > The Business Trip Live, great modern version but miles too short. > > Any others? > > Regards, > Alastair. > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:10:47 +0100, Sam Kirwan > wrote: > > >Apologies!!! Right album - wrong track title - can't help being blonde. > >Went home last night and dug it out - the track is Sonic Destruction > (Advent > >Re-mix) lifted from 'Rituals of the Solstice'. It's still a banging track > >though just make sure you listen to it uncomfortably loudly! > > > >Agian sorry for being a thickie!! > > > >Sam > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David Bottomley [mailto:merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK] > >Sent: 27 March 2001 16:08 > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) > > > > > >Fair enough - I was blissfully unaware of the import version. Anyone know > if > >it has a different track listing to the UK version? > > > >Dave > > > >>>There is such a thing as the "Emergency Broadcast Systems Samples" CD, > but > >>>it *doesn't* feature "You Shouldn't Do That". > >> > >>It might - there are two versions. If you search on Emergency Broadcast > >>System (Not systems) you get to the UK release, which definitely doesn't > >>have it. > >> > >>The one Sam's search (Emergency Broadcast Systems, plural) leads to is > >>an import - but amazon.co.uk doesn't give a track listing for it. > > > > > >*************************************************************************** > ******** > >The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files > transmitted > >with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the > personal attention > >of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, > disclosure or > >copying of this document is unauthorised. > > > >Thank you > >NTL > >*************************************************************************** > ******** > > *********************************************************************************** > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > *********************************************************************************** From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 28 07:36:43 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:06:43 +0930 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: If you live in England and don't go to EVERY Hawkwind concert available you should be mighty ashamed of yourselves - Perhaps a mind swap could be arranged (like in red dwarf) on those nights when Hawkwind play and the shameless ones could swap?? tee hee See yaaaa ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Kirwan To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > Get the CD - definitely, whilst listening to it again last night I > remembered what I'd been missing and may well be at Aldershot this weekend!! > Haven't seen them since Xmas after all. What's the longest time anyone's > gone between HW gigs I wonder. Mine's 20 months I'm desperately ashamed to > say - never again, NEVER!! > > Sam > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alastair Lee Sumner [mailto:als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK] > Sent: 28 March 2001 13:07 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) > > > Sam, now I'm really confused :) So it isn't a version of 'You Shouldn't Do > That' under a different name or anything? > > I might get the CD anyway, it's only a fiver on Amazon. Does anyone know of > any other versions of 'You Shouldn't Do That' that I may not know about? > The ones that I can remember off the top of my head are: > > In Search Of Space original version. > RoadHawks version on Space Ritual CD and other places. > Text Of Festival, at least on the vinyl edition. > The Business Trip Live, great modern version but miles too short. > > Any others? > > Regards, > Alastair. > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:10:47 +0100, Sam Kirwan > wrote: > > >Apologies!!! Right album - wrong track title - can't help being blonde. > >Went home last night and dug it out - the track is Sonic Destruction > (Advent > >Re-mix) lifted from 'Rituals of the Solstice'. It's still a banging track > >though just make sure you listen to it uncomfortably loudly! > > > >Agian sorry for being a thickie!! > > > >Sam > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David Bottomley [mailto:merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK] > >Sent: 27 March 2001 16:08 > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) > > > > > >Fair enough - I was blissfully unaware of the import version. Anyone know > if > >it has a different track listing to the UK version? > > > >Dave > > > >>>There is such a thing as the "Emergency Broadcast Systems Samples" CD, > but > >>>it *doesn't* feature "You Shouldn't Do That". > >> > >>It might - there are two versions. If you search on Emergency Broadcast > >>System (Not systems) you get to the UK release, which definitely doesn't > >>have it. > >> > >>The one Sam's search (Emergency Broadcast Systems, plural) leads to is > >>an import - but amazon.co.uk doesn't give a track listing for it. > > > > > >*************************************************************************** > ******** > >The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files > transmitted > >with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the > personal attention > >of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, > disclosure or > >copying of this document is unauthorised. > > > >Thank you > >NTL > >*************************************************************************** > ******** > > > **************************************************************************** ******* > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > **************************************************************************** ******* From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Wed Mar 28 07:37:58 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:37:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: Told you - not worthy.... Sam (The humble one) -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: 28 March 2001 13:37 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? If you live in England and don't go to EVERY Hawkwind concert available you should be mighty ashamed of yourselves - Perhaps a mind swap could be arranged (like in red dwarf) on those nights when Hawkwind play and the shameless ones could swap?? tee hee See yaaaa ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Kirwan To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > Get the CD - definitely, whilst listening to it again last night I > remembered what I'd been missing and may well be at Aldershot this weekend!! > Haven't seen them since Xmas after all. What's the longest time anyone's > gone between HW gigs I wonder. Mine's 20 months I'm desperately ashamed to > say - never again, NEVER!! > > Sam > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alastair Lee Sumner [mailto:als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK] > Sent: 28 March 2001 13:07 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) > > > Sam, now I'm really confused :) So it isn't a version of 'You Shouldn't Do > That' under a different name or anything? > > I might get the CD anyway, it's only a fiver on Amazon. Does anyone know of > any other versions of 'You Shouldn't Do That' that I may not know about? > The ones that I can remember off the top of my head are: > > In Search Of Space original version. > RoadHawks version on Space Ritual CD and other places. > Text Of Festival, at least on the vinyl edition. > The Business Trip Live, great modern version but miles too short. > > Any others? > > Regards, > Alastair. > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:10:47 +0100, Sam Kirwan > wrote: > > >Apologies!!! Right album - wrong track title - can't help being blonde. > >Went home last night and dug it out - the track is Sonic Destruction > (Advent > >Re-mix) lifted from 'Rituals of the Solstice'. It's still a banging track > >though just make sure you listen to it uncomfortably loudly! > > > >Agian sorry for being a thickie!! > > > >Sam > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David Bottomley [mailto:merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK] > >Sent: 27 March 2001 16:08 > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) > > > > > >Fair enough - I was blissfully unaware of the import version. Anyone know > if > >it has a different track listing to the UK version? > > > >Dave > > > >>>There is such a thing as the "Emergency Broadcast Systems Samples" CD, > but > >>>it *doesn't* feature "You Shouldn't Do That". > >> > >>It might - there are two versions. If you search on Emergency Broadcast > >>System (Not systems) you get to the UK release, which definitely doesn't > >>have it. > >> > >>The one Sam's search (Emergency Broadcast Systems, plural) leads to is > >>an import - but amazon.co.uk doesn't give a track listing for it. > > > > > >*************************************************************************** > ******** > >The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files > transmitted > >with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the > personal attention > >of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, > disclosure or > >copying of this document is unauthorised. > > > >Thank you > >NTL > >*************************************************************************** > ******** > > > **************************************************************************** ******* > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > **************************************************************************** ******* *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Mar 28 07:37:18 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:37:18 -0600 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: I haven't seen HAWKWIND in almost 4 years.BOO HOO. They never come here. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 6:37 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? If you live in England and don't go to EVERY Hawkwind concert available you should be mighty ashamed of yourselves - Perhaps a mind swap could be arranged (like in red dwarf) on those nights when Hawkwind play and the shameless ones could swap?? tee hee See yaaaa ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Kirwan To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > Get the CD - definitely, whilst listening to it again last night I > remembered what I'd been missing and may well be at Aldershot this weekend!! > Haven't seen them since Xmas after all. What's the longest time anyone's > gone between HW gigs I wonder. Mine's 20 months I'm desperately ashamed to > say - never again, NEVER!! > > Sam > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alastair Lee Sumner [mailto:als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK] > Sent: 28 March 2001 13:07 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) > > > Sam, now I'm really confused :) So it isn't a version of 'You Shouldn't Do > That' under a different name or anything? > > I might get the CD anyway, it's only a fiver on Amazon. Does anyone know of > any other versions of 'You Shouldn't Do That' that I may not know about? > The ones that I can remember off the top of my head are: > > In Search Of Space original version. > RoadHawks version on Space Ritual CD and other places. > Text Of Festival, at least on the vinyl edition. > The Business Trip Live, great modern version but miles too short. > > Any others? > > Regards, > Alastair. > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:10:47 +0100, Sam Kirwan > wrote: > > >Apologies!!! Right album - wrong track title - can't help being blonde. > >Went home last night and dug it out - the track is Sonic Destruction > (Advent > >Re-mix) lifted from 'Rituals of the Solstice'. It's still a banging track > >though just make sure you listen to it uncomfortably loudly! > > > >Agian sorry for being a thickie!! > > > >Sam > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David Bottomley [mailto:merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK] > >Sent: 27 March 2001 16:08 > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) > > > > > >Fair enough - I was blissfully unaware of the import version. Anyone know > if > >it has a different track listing to the UK version? > > > >Dave > > > >>>There is such a thing as the "Emergency Broadcast Systems Samples" CD, > but > >>>it *doesn't* feature "You Shouldn't Do That". > >> > >>It might - there are two versions. If you search on Emergency Broadcast > >>System (Not systems) you get to the UK release, which definitely doesn't > >>have it. > >> > >>The one Sam's search (Emergency Broadcast Systems, plural) leads to is > >>an import - but amazon.co.uk doesn't give a track listing for it. > > > > > >*************************************************************************** > ******** > >The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files > transmitted > >with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the > personal attention > >of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, > disclosure or > >copying of this document is unauthorised. > > > >Thank you > >NTL > >*************************************************************************** > ******** > > > **************************************************************************** ******* > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > **************************************************************************** ******* From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Wed Mar 28 07:50:57 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:50:57 -0500 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: A few years for me. I went off their modern stuff mid 90s. Last time I saw them was when they had that robot on stage and sang the song. The other week I saw that program on tv and that instantly inspired me to get back into them again, no wonder I was never able to find any other music I really liked in the intervening years. I went to see them last Sunday in Croydon and despite them playing some modern stuff which I just can't get into I thought it was pretty good overall, especially Flying Doctor, Spiral Galaxy and Hurry On Sundown which I don't think I've ever heard them play before. So despite my criticism of some of their modern stuff they still always manage to surprise me at the concerts. Now I'm trying to discover a drug that will keep Dave Brock alive at least until I die. Alastair. On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100, Sam Kirwan wrote: >Get the CD - definitely, whilst listening to it again last night I >remembered what I'd been missing and may well be at Aldershot this weekend!! >Haven't seen them since Xmas after all. What's the longest time anyone's >gone between HW gigs I wonder. Mine's 20 months I'm desperately ashamed to >say - never again, NEVER!! > >Sam > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alastair Lee Sumner [mailto:als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK] >Sent: 28 March 2001 13:07 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) > > >Sam, now I'm really confused :) So it isn't a version of 'You Shouldn't Do >That' under a different name or anything? > >I might get the CD anyway, it's only a fiver on Amazon. Does anyone know of >any other versions of 'You Shouldn't Do That' that I may not know about? >The ones that I can remember off the top of my head are: > >In Search Of Space original version. >RoadHawks version on Space Ritual CD and other places. >Text Of Festival, at least on the vinyl edition. >The Business Trip Live, great modern version but miles too short. > >Any others? > >Regards, >Alastair. > > >On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:10:47 +0100, Sam Kirwan >wrote: > >>Apologies!!! Right album - wrong track title - can't help being blonde. >>Went home last night and dug it out - the track is Sonic Destruction >(Advent >>Re-mix) lifted from 'Rituals of the Solstice'. It's still a banging track >>though just make sure you listen to it uncomfortably loudly! >> >>Agian sorry for being a thickie!! >> >>Sam >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: David Bottomley [mailto:merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK] >>Sent: 27 March 2001 16:08 >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >>Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) >> >> >>Fair enough - I was blissfully unaware of the import version. Anyone know >if >>it has a different track listing to the UK version? >> >>Dave >> >>>>There is such a thing as the "Emergency Broadcast Systems Samples" CD, >but >>>>it *doesn't* feature "You Shouldn't Do That". >>> >>>It might - there are two versions. If you search on Emergency Broadcast >>>System (Not systems) you get to the UK release, which definitely doesn't >>>have it. >>> >>>The one Sam's search (Emergency Broadcast Systems, plural) leads to is >>>an import - but amazon.co.uk doesn't give a track listing for it. >> >> >>************************************************************************** * >******** >>The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files >transmitted >>with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the >personal attention >>of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, >disclosure or >>copying of this document is unauthorised. >> >>Thank you >>NTL >>************************************************************************** * >******** > > >*************************************************************************** ******** >The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted >with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention >of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or >copying of this document is unauthorised. > >Thank you >NTL >*************************************************************************** ******** From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Mar 28 07:58:00 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:58:00 -0500 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100, Sam Kirwan wrote: >What's the longest time anyone's >gone between HW gigs I wonder. Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. Terrible but true. Used to see them regularly in the '80s, Hammersmith Odeon '89 being the last time... then didn't see 'em again until Croydon '99. Why? Thought they were washed up- didn't rate Xenon Codex or Space Bandits, in fact I was greatly saddened by Space Bandits- I just thought, well, the best band in the world have finally lost it, and I preferred to let my Hawk- appreciation rest in peace. It was years before I finally heard some of the 90's material and realised they were still doing the business. I still don't particularly like either of the above albums although they don't upset me as much as they once did! Other people love them, I know, but there you go. Three gigs in the last 5 months have gone some way to making up for this appalling lapse. From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Mar 28 08:06:27 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:06:27 -0600 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: If you listen to the albums they do grow on you,it took me a while to get into them, now I love all the 90's material.STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Nick Medford [mailto:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 6:58 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100, Sam Kirwan wrote: >What's the longest time anyone's >gone between HW gigs I wonder. Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. Terrible but true. Used to see them regularly in the '80s, Hammersmith Odeon '89 being the last time... then didn't see 'em again until Croydon '99. Why? Thought they were washed up- didn't rate Xenon Codex or Space Bandits, in fact I was greatly saddened by Space Bandits- I just thought, well, the best band in the world have finally lost it, and I preferred to let my Hawk- appreciation rest in peace. It was years before I finally heard some of the 90's material and realised they were still doing the business. I still don't particularly like either of the above albums although they don't upset me as much as they once did! Other people love them, I know, but there you go. Three gigs in the last 5 months have gone some way to making up for this appalling lapse. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Mar 28 08:10:07 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:10:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? In-Reply-To: Alastair Lee Sumner's message of Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:50:57 -0500 Message-ID: Alastair Lee Sumner writes: > A few years for me. I went off their modern stuff mid 90s. Last time I saw > them was when they had that robot on stage and sang the song. The other > week I saw that program on tv and that instantly inspired me to get back > into them again, no wonder I was never able to find any other music I > really liked in the intervening years. I went to see them last Sunday in > Croydon and despite them playing some modern stuff which I just can't get > into I thought it was pretty good overall, especially Flying Doctor, Spiral > Galaxy and Hurry On Sundown which I don't think I've ever heard them play > before. So despite my criticism of some of their modern stuff they still > always manage to surprise me at the concerts. Now I'm trying to discover a > drug that will keep Dave Brock alive at least until I die. We'll just put their heads in jars and wire 'em up to the machinery... FoFP From chrisr at TIAC.NET Wed Mar 28 08:24:23 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:24:23 -0500 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: I have not seen HW since 1997. I am from the USA so the chances of me seeing them again without going overseas seems slimmer than ever. I am really grateful for the times that I have seem HW live, so even if they do not come back to America. I will have the memories of a lifetime. And if HW cdr trees continue to be made available then I will be more than content. The sound on Astoria Totalrock was superb. Can't wait for the full release! Chris Sam Kirwan wrote: > What's the longest time anyone's > gone between HW gigs I wonder. Mine's 20 months I'm desperately ashamed to > say - never again, NEVER!! > > Sam > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Wed Mar 28 08:41:51 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:41:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: i haven't been to a Hawkwind concert in 18 years!!!! (IE: I've never been to one!!) poor ol' me. Layla >>> nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK 03/28/01 01:58pm >>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100, Sam Kirwan wrote: >What's the longest time anyone's >gone between HW gigs I wonder. Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. Terrible but true. Used to see them regularly in the '80s, Hammersmith Odeon '89 being the last time... then didn't see 'em again until Croydon '99. Why? Thought they were washed up- didn't rate Xenon Codex or Space Bandits, in fact I was greatly saddened by Space Bandits- I just thought, well, the best band in the world have finally lost it, and I preferred to let my Hawk- appreciation rest in peace. It was years before I finally heard some of the 90's material and realised they were still doing the business. I still don't particularly like either of the above albums although they don't upset me as much as they once did! Other people love them, I know, but there you go. Three gigs in the last 5 months have gone some way to making up for this appalling lapse. From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Mar 28 08:55:23 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:55:23 -0500 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Layla wrote: > i haven't been to a Hawkwind concert in 18 years!!!! > > (IE: I've never been to one!!) I'm in the same boat. 26 years and counting. Though I could have seen them in St. Catherines, Ontario in '95(?) but blew the chance. :-( I've only been a fan since 1994 though, so maybe it's not so bad...the first 20 years don't count, really. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionaly http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Wed Mar 28 08:53:51 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:53:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: That's terrible - you poor luv. Can't imagine life without m'big HW blowout every few months. I won't even try and explain - it compares to nothing else - anywhere- - in the universe!!!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: 28 March 2001 14:42 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? i haven't been to a Hawkwind concert in 18 years!!!! (IE: I've never been to one!!) poor ol' me. Layla >>> nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK 03/28/01 01:58pm >>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100, Sam Kirwan wrote: >What's the longest time anyone's >gone between HW gigs I wonder. Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. Terrible but true. Used to see them regularly in the '80s, Hammersmith Odeon '89 being the last time... then didn't see 'em again until Croydon '99. Why? Thought they were washed up- didn't rate Xenon Codex or Space Bandits, in fact I was greatly saddened by Space Bandits- I just thought, well, the best band in the world have finally lost it, and I preferred to let my Hawk- appreciation rest in peace. It was years before I finally heard some of the 90's material and realised they were still doing the business. I still don't particularly like either of the above albums although they don't upset me as much as they once did! Other people love them, I know, but there you go. Three gigs in the last 5 months have gone some way to making up for this appalling lapse. *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Mar 28 09:02:34 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:02:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: GO as soon as you get a chance, Hawkwind live is the REAL experience. All other bands are pants in comparison..... Just let the Blagha take over and the strobes kick in... Nothing... but nothing comes even close. regards Iain Layla Thompson wrote: > i haven't been to a Hawkwind concert in 18 years!!!! > > (IE: I've never been to one!!) > > poor ol' me. > > Layla > > >>> nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK 03/28/01 01:58pm >>> > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100, Sam Kirwan > wrote: > > >What's the longest time anyone's > >gone between HW gigs I wonder. > > Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. > > Terrible but true. Used to see them regularly in the '80s, Hammersmith > Odeon '89 being the last time... then didn't see 'em again until Croydon > '99. > > Why? Thought they were washed up- didn't rate Xenon Codex or Space Bandits, > in fact I was greatly saddened by Space Bandits- I just thought, well, the > best band in the world have finally lost it, and I preferred to let my Hawk- > appreciation rest in peace. > > It was years before I finally heard some of the 90's material and realised > they were still doing the business. > > I still don't particularly like either of the above albums although they > don't upset me as much as they once did! Other people love them, I know, > but there you go. > > Three gigs in the last 5 months have gone some way to making up for this > appalling lapse. From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Mar 28 09:06:40 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:06:40 -0600 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: WHAT does BLAGHA mean? I keep seeing it but it is unfamiliar to me?????STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: iain ferguson [mailto:iainferguson at AOL.COM] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 8:03 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? GO as soon as you get a chance, Hawkwind live is the REAL experience. All other bands are pants in comparison..... Just let the Blagha take over and the strobes kick in... Nothing... but nothing comes even close. regards Iain Layla Thompson wrote: > i haven't been to a Hawkwind concert in 18 years!!!! > > (IE: I've never been to one!!) > > poor ol' me. > > Layla > > >>> nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK 03/28/01 01:58pm >>> > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100, Sam Kirwan > wrote: > > >What's the longest time anyone's > >gone between HW gigs I wonder. > > Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. > > Terrible but true. Used to see them regularly in the '80s, Hammersmith > Odeon '89 being the last time... then didn't see 'em again until Croydon > '99. > > Why? Thought they were washed up- didn't rate Xenon Codex or Space Bandits, > in fact I was greatly saddened by Space Bandits- I just thought, well, the > best band in the world have finally lost it, and I preferred to let my Hawk- > appreciation rest in peace. > > It was years before I finally heard some of the 90's material and realised > they were still doing the business. > > I still don't particularly like either of the above albums although they > don't upset me as much as they once did! Other people love them, I know, > but there you go. > > Three gigs in the last 5 months have gone some way to making up for this > appalling lapse. From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Mar 28 09:17:28 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:17:28 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: I take it as the pounding 4/4 beat from the drums, the bass and guitar.. Stephen Lindas wrote: > WHAT does BLAGHA mean? I keep seeing it but it is unfamiliar to > me?????STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: iain ferguson [mailto:iainferguson at AOL.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 8:03 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > > GO as soon as you get a chance, Hawkwind live is the REAL experience. All > other > bands are pants in comparison..... Just let the Blagha take over and the > strobes > kick in... > > Nothing... but nothing comes even close. > > regards > > Iain > > Layla Thompson wrote: > > > i haven't been to a Hawkwind concert in 18 years!!!! > > > > (IE: I've never been to one!!) > > > > poor ol' me. > > > > Layla > > > > >>> nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK 03/28/01 01:58pm >>> > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100, Sam Kirwan > > wrote: > > > > >What's the longest time anyone's > > >gone between HW gigs I wonder. > > > > Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. > > > > Terrible but true. Used to see them regularly in the '80s, Hammersmith > > Odeon '89 being the last time... then didn't see 'em again until Croydon > > '99. > > > > Why? Thought they were washed up- didn't rate Xenon Codex or Space > Bandits, > > in fact I was greatly saddened by Space Bandits- I just thought, well, the > > best band in the world have finally lost it, and I preferred to let my > Hawk- > > appreciation rest in peace. > > > > It was years before I finally heard some of the 90's material and realised > > they were still doing the business. > > > > I still don't particularly like either of the above albums although they > > don't upset me as much as they once did! Other people love them, I know, > > but there you go. > > > > Three gigs in the last 5 months have gone some way to making up for this > > appalling lapse. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Mar 28 09:21:03 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:21:03 EST Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/28/01 7:58:18 AM, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: << >What's the longest time anyone's >gone between HW gigs I wonder. Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. >> ============= PHILADELPHIA '74 NYC '91 17 years "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Mar 28 09:24:52 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:24:52 EST Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question??//Att: Carl A. Message-ID: In a message dated 3/28/01 9:18:34 AM, iainferguson at AOL.COM writes: << WHAT does BLAGHA mean? >> ===== um... do you mean "BLANGA"? "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Mar 28 09:35:17 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:35:17 EST Subject: OFF/not music: send out the clowns.... Message-ID: Bozo the Clown Bows Out After 40 Years on TV Reuters CHICAGO (March 26) - Bozo the Clown, who goofed off on a Chicago television stage for 40 years, will bow out and make way for a modern version of the carrot-topped character, the creators of the show said on Friday. Chicago's version of the small-scale circus, featuring Bozo and various sidekicks such as Cooky and Oliver O. Oliver, debuted on Chicago's WGN-TV in 1960 and later aired nationally via WGN-TV's cable channel. The show has now stopped production and will air its last special on Aug. 26, WGN-TV said. The Tribune Co.-owned station said changing viewing habits -- particularly children not going home for lunch to watch the show that once aired every weekday -- and competitors for young viewers from cable channels such as Nickelodeon and the Disney Channel led it to cancel the vintage Bozo. An updated version, aimed at the national entertainment marketplace and featuring the latest video tricks, will likely begin production soon, said a spokesman for Larry Harmon Pictures Corp., which owns the rights to Bozo. ''On a national scale, we've wanted to launch a new kind of production of 'Bozo' for some time now, but our commitments in Chicago have prevented us from moving forward,'' Larry Harmon said in a statement from Los Angeles. Bozo, which original creator Alan Livingston introduced on children's records in the 1940s, was later syndicated for television, and shows were produced in 183 cities around the world. The first televised Bozo aired in Los Angeles in 1949, but was canceled a year later, according to WGN. WGN said its Bozo was the longest-running children's show in the country and the last of the locally produced Bozo shows, although the Harmon Pictures spokesman said there were a few other cities with shows still in production. The Chicago version changed little over the years, featuring tame circus acts and children's games beloved by Baby Boomers such as the ''Grand Prize Game'' where bigger and bigger prizes were awarded for tossing a ping-pong ball in successively numbered pails. Tickets to the show at WGN's studio were desperately sought after by parents and some children grew up while awaiting their chance to attend, a WGN spokeswoman said. More than 200 actors were trained to play Bozo, though only two donned the make-up in Chicago, including the late Bob Bell who played the clown for 23 years. 07:46 03-26-01 From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Mar 28 09:46:17 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:46:17 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question??//Att: Carl A. Message-ID: My Mum always said I was rubbish at spelling. Cheers iain DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 3/28/01 9:18:34 AM, iainferguson at AOL.COM writes: > > << WHAT does BLAGHA mean? >> > ===== > um... > do you mean "BLANGA"? > > "<>" From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Wed Mar 28 09:50:24 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:50:24 -0700 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? In-Reply-To: <105.e867ed.27f34d4f@aol.com> Message-ID: >What's the longest time anyone's >gone between HW gigs I wonder. ============= PHILADELPHIA '74 NYC '91 17 years "<>" Same for me, sorry to say. Starwood, Hollywood '78? to Slims, San Francisco '95 another Mark L From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 28 09:59:23 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:59:23 EST Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: My longest gap between Hawkwind gigs was pretty long. After seeing The Bottom Line shows in New York in 1978 I waited until 1989 for the band to return to America. I'm sure that 11 year gap is shared by many American fans. A lot of Europeans seem to not realize that Hawkwind basically stopped touring America for the entire '80's. Eli Friedman From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 28 10:56:49 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:56:49 EST Subject: OFF/not music: send out the clowns.... Message-ID: ah yes i remember my mom taking me to westgate mall in brockton; must have been 1969/70; to wait in line to met bozo and get his pic signed. it was actually one of the more disappointing experiences of my childhood. after about an hour on line, wich is an eternity to a 6 yr old, it was my turn to face the great man and offer my copy of his promo pic for him to scribble on. i looked up into his face...and said, 'You're not BOZO!' my mom scooted me out of line, autographed pic in hand...of course the imposter denied it. but i knew...I KNEW... some other phony-bozo...a pseudo-bozo... a stand-in...a blasphemous FAKE...was impersonating my hero. he was signing the real bozos name on the real bozo's picture... no i don't still have the picture, and you might be surprized, because if you know me, you know i keep such things from impotant periods of my life (OK-- and some from not-so-important-periods...), but i discarded this defiled picture as soon as i got back in the car. no tears that day; just the cold realization that life is cruel, and that things are not always what they seem. I resumed my kidhood, somehow older and wiser... you couldn't get anything past the young bobm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Mar 28 11:50:39 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:50:39 -0500 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: I saw Ron once. In '97. He was just awesome. He was in white paint from head to jeans.. and stood in front of a black light. Therefore he was PURPLE all show. Very cool. Loved his Sonic Attack. But then I am so open minded I enjoyed Capt. Rizz too. But then again I love Reggae so there ya go. Enough rambling. -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "A truly great man never puts away the simplicity of a child. " --Chinese Proverb Michael W Blackman wrote: > i'LL BET SOME FOLKS SAID THE SAME SORT OF STUFF ABOUT bOB cALVERT WHEN HE > FIRST GOT UP AND STARTED doing his thing > > All opinions respected 100% > > So heres mine > > They aint nothing wrong with RonTree ( He's cool man) > > Let the man have his space to be creative and express himself is all I say > > Mb > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Jermy > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 5:52 PM > Subject: HW: Croydon > > >> I'm going to kill the sound engineer if I ever get my hands on him. Much > > as > >> I love Alan's playing, being able to hear that to the virtual exclusion of >> all else for most of the gig is somewhat frustrating - Dave's guitar was >> inaudible and Jerry's was most of the time. >> >> Technical hitch (what did happen to Richard?) was unfortunate, but the >> version of High Rise they pulled off was good, followed by some great > > Space > >> Ritual poetry ad hoc from Ron - I still think they could do without him >> (especially since they had up to 10 people on-stage tonight at some >> point...), but he's getting better each gig I see him. If he just >> concentrated on the Calvert stuff, I think I'd enjoy seeing him full-time. >> >> Getting back to Croydon...I can't recall the entire set-list, but there > > was > >> definitely (and in probably the wrong order too): >> >> Hmm. I had very good sound almost all night. Could hear Everyone. 7 rows >> back right in front of the PA on the left(not bad considering I got my >> tickets about 7:15pm!). I think it`s definitly where you are in this > > place. > >> Same thing happened last year. I had awful sound all night but others said >> it was fine. >> >> Si >> >> gig/sound/meeting/Bedouin guitarist >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Dr Mark Jermy >> Automotive, Combustion and Energy Engineering >> School of Mechanical Engineering >> Cranfield University >> Cranfield, Beds, MK43 0AL, Great Britain >> Tel +44 1234 754680 Fax +44 1234 750425 >> http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/sme/aeod/homepage.htm >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Wed Mar 28 12:42:12 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:42:12 EST Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven Message-ID: In a message dated 3/28/01 5:32:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > Bob Lennon writes: > > > > > Mike Coleman wishes to express that his hard drive has been > > > > removed > > > > Weren't all the platters working? > > > uh, what's a platter? > > Before your time. > > FoFP o.k. I believe you, but when was before my time, and what's a platter? (unless it's of course something simple like the thing you get for dinner or something...) bob From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 28 13:07:22 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 03:37:22 +0930 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: why on earth not my dear?? ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 11:11 PM Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > i haven't been to a Hawkwind concert in 18 years!!!! > > > (IE: I've never been to one!!) > > poor ol' me. > > Layla > > >>> nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK 03/28/01 01:58pm >>> > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100, Sam Kirwan > wrote: > > >What's the longest time anyone's > >gone between HW gigs I wonder. > > Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. > > Terrible but true. Used to see them regularly in the '80s, Hammersmith > Odeon '89 being the last time... then didn't see 'em again until Croydon > '99. > > Why? Thought they were washed up- didn't rate Xenon Codex or Space Bandits, > in fact I was greatly saddened by Space Bandits- I just thought, well, the > best band in the world have finally lost it, and I preferred to let my Hawk- > appreciation rest in peace. > > It was years before I finally heard some of the 90's material and realised > they were still doing the business. > > I still don't particularly like either of the above albums although they > don't upset me as much as they once did! Other people love them, I know, > but there you go. > > Three gigs in the last 5 months have gone some way to making up for this > appalling lapse. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 28 13:25:30 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 03:55:30 +0930 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: > That's terrible - you poor luv. Can't imagine life without m'big HW blowout > every few months. I won't even try and explain - it compares to nothing > else - anywhere- - in the universe!!!! > > Sam ET TU SAM ET TU ** From Poor disadvantaged Canadian fella living in Australia ((Probably spelled et tu wrong huh?)) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 28 13:31:29 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 04:01:29 +0930 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: Praise the keeper of the multiverse that I made it to the Hawkestra Words seem rather limp & vague when trying to impart the experience of seeing Hawkwind perform live - A few more experiences - please!!! You really have to be there to get it...... me thinks Limp - Now theres a word many occasions ----- Original Message ----- From: iain ferguson To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 11:32 PM Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > GO as soon as you get a chance, Hawkwind live is the REAL experience. All other > bands are pants in comparison..... Just let the Blagha take over and the strobes > kick in... > > Nothing... but nothing comes even close. > > regards > > Iain > > Layla Thompson wrote: > > > i haven't been to a Hawkwind concert in 18 years!!!! > > > > (IE: I've never been to one!!) > > > > poor ol' me. > > > > Layla > > > > >>> nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK 03/28/01 01:58pm >>> > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100, Sam Kirwan > > wrote: > > > > >What's the longest time anyone's > > >gone between HW gigs I wonder. > > > > Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. > > > > Terrible but true. Used to see them regularly in the '80s, Hammersmith > > Odeon '89 being the last time... then didn't see 'em again until Croydon > > '99. > > > > Why? Thought they were washed up- didn't rate Xenon Codex or Space Bandits, > > in fact I was greatly saddened by Space Bandits- I just thought, well, the > > best band in the world have finally lost it, and I preferred to let my Hawk- > > appreciation rest in peace. > > > > It was years before I finally heard some of the 90's material and realised > > they were still doing the business. > > > > I still don't particularly like either of the above albums although they > > don't upset me as much as they once did! Other people love them, I know, > > but there you go. > > > > Three gigs in the last 5 months have gone some way to making up for this > > appalling lapse. > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 28 13:35:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 04:05:01 +0930 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: Well 32 years for me (first gig Hawkestra) age 32 Of course thats not icluding incarnations from alternate universes and previous lives etc Can't wait to attend some more in this lifetime & then again in the next.......... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 11:51 PM Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > In a message dated 3/28/01 7:58:18 AM, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > > << > >What's the longest time anyone's > >gone between HW gigs I wonder. > > Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. > >> > ============= > PHILADELPHIA '74 > NYC '91 > > 17 years > > "<>" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 28 13:40:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 04:10:45 +0930 Subject: OFF/not music: send out the clowns.... Message-ID: ahhhh good ole clowns & childhood memories On my sons 5th or 6th birthday we hired a clown for his party By the end of his gig he had been reduced from a happy clown to a somewhat depressed clown Why - the birthday boy kept scowling at him & looking at him as if he was a rather silly human being "No dignity" etc He has lightened up alot since then hoever ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert C. Mayo To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:26 AM Subject: Re: OFF/not music: send out the clowns.... ah yes i remember my mom taking me to westgate mall in brockton; must have been 1969/70; to wait in line to met bozo and get his pic signed. it was actually one of the more disappointing experiences of my childhood. after about an hour on line, wich is an eternity to a 6 yr old, it was my turn to face the great man and offer my copy of his promo pic for him to scribble on. i looked up into his face...and said, 'You're not BOZO!' my mom scooted me out of line, autographed pic in hand...of course the imposter denied it. but i knew...I KNEW... some other phony-bozo...a pseudo-bozo... a stand-in...a blasphemous FAKE...was impersonating my hero. he was signing the real bozos name on the real bozo's picture... no i don't still have the picture, and you might be surprized, because if you know me, you know i keep such things from impotant periods of my life (OK-- and some from not-so-important-periods...), but i discarded this defiled picture as soon as i got back in the car. no tears that day; just the cold realization that life is cruel, and that things are not always what they seem. I resumed my kidhood, somehow older and wiser... you couldn't get anything past the young bobm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Wed Mar 28 13:39:09 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:39:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: Cause when I was younger they never played anywhere near me. When I got old enough to travel places, I've never had the opportunity nor the cash. Now I've got the cash, and the time!!! (sometimes). I can't wait for the Lake district festival!!! If it doesn't happen, heads are gonna roll!!! Layla. >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/28/01 07:07pm >>> why on earth not my dear?? ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 11:11 PM Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > i haven't been to a Hawkwind concert in 18 years!!!! > > > (IE: I've never been to one!!) > > poor ol' me. > > Layla > > >>> nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK 03/28/01 01:58pm >>> > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100, Sam Kirwan > wrote: > > >What's the longest time anyone's > >gone between HW gigs I wonder. > > Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. > > Terrible but true. Used to see them regularly in the '80s, Hammersmith > Odeon '89 being the last time... then didn't see 'em again until Croydon > '99. > > Why? Thought they were washed up- didn't rate Xenon Codex or Space Bandits, > in fact I was greatly saddened by Space Bandits- I just thought, well, the > best band in the world have finally lost it, and I preferred to let my Hawk- > appreciation rest in peace. > > It was years before I finally heard some of the 90's material and realised > they were still doing the business. > > I still don't particularly like either of the above albums although they > don't upset me as much as they once did! Other people love them, I know, > but there you go. > > Three gigs in the last 5 months have gone some way to making up for this > appalling lapse. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 28 13:55:06 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 04:25:06 +0930 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: You have to love the directions Hawkwind have taken - its what makes them truly special If you really listen to all Hawkwind music - you'll find those special elements that made all the early material so amazing as well as something distinctly new and refreshing with each progressive album Artists are allways seeking a new expression - That ultimate creation - The ultimate trip.... hawkwind is the real Magical Mystery Tour - dig it man Thats how I feel anyway because Im allways driving myself nuts with my own personal creative expressions (But my wife keeps me grounded) nighty night Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael S. Habiby To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 2:20 AM Subject: Re: HW: Croydon I saw Ron once. In '97. He was just awesome. He was in white paint from head to jeans.. and stood in front of a black light. Therefore he was PURPLE all show. Very cool. Loved his Sonic Attack. But then I am so open minded I enjoyed Capt. Rizz too. But then again I love Reggae so there ya go. Enough rambling. -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "A truly great man never puts away the simplicity of a child. " --Chinese Proverb Michael W Blackman wrote: i'LL BET SOME FOLKS SAID THE SAME SORT OF STUFF ABOUT bOB cALVERT WHEN HEFIRST GOT UP AND STARTED doing his thingAll opinions respected 100%So heres mineThey aint nothing wrong with RonTree ( He's cool man)Let the man have his space to be creative and express himself is all I sayMb----- Original Message -----From: Mark Jermy To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 5:52 PMSubject: HW: Croydon I'm going to kill the sound engineer if I ever get my hands on him. Much as I love Alan's playing, being able to hear that to the virtual exclusion ofall else for most of the gig is somewhat frustrating - Dave's guitar wasinaudible and Jerry's was most of the time.Technical hitch (what did happen to Richard?) was unfortunate, but theversion of High Rise they pulled off was good, followed by some great Space Ritual poetry ad hoc from Ron - I still think they could do without him(especially since they had up to 10 people on-stage tonight at somepoint...), but he's getting better each gig I see him. If he justconcentrated on the Calvert stuff, I think I'd enjoy seeing him full-time.Getting back to Croydon...I can't recall the entire set-list, but there was definitely (and in probably the wrong order too):Hmm. I had very good sound almost all night. Could hear Everyone. 7 rowsback right in front of the PA on the left(not bad considering I got mytickets about 7:15pm!). I think it`s definitly where you are in this place. Same thing happened last year. I had awful sound all night but others saidit was fine.Sigig/sound/meeting/Bedouin guitarist~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Dr Mark JermyAutomotive, Combustion and Energy EngineeringSchool of Mechanical EngineeringCranfield UniversityCranfield, Beds, MK43 0AL, Great BritainTel +44 1234 754680 Fax +44 1234 750425http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/sme/aeod/homepage.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Mar 28 13:59:28 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 04:29:28 +0930 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: We need lots a more names on my petition It is being noticed...... You'r a feisty little chickadee huh!! ((Head are gonna roll)) Mb (Mister NagWind) ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 4:09 AM Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > Cause when I was younger they never played anywhere near me. > When I got old enough to travel places, I've never had the opportunity nor the cash. > > Now I've got the cash, and the time!!! (sometimes). I can't wait for the Lake district festival!!! If it doesn't happen, heads are gonna roll!!! > > Layla. > > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/28/01 07:07pm >>> > why on earth not my dear?? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Layla Thompson > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 11:11 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > > > > i haven't been to a Hawkwind concert in 18 years!!!! > > > > > > (IE: I've never been to one!!) > > > > poor ol' me. > > > > Layla > > > > >>> nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK 03/28/01 01:58pm >>> > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100, Sam Kirwan > > wrote: > > > > >What's the longest time anyone's > > >gone between HW gigs I wonder. > > > > Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. > > > > Terrible but true. Used to see them regularly in the '80s, Hammersmith > > Odeon '89 being the last time... then didn't see 'em again until Croydon > > '99. > > > > Why? Thought they were washed up- didn't rate Xenon Codex or Space > Bandits, > > in fact I was greatly saddened by Space Bandits- I just thought, well, the > > best band in the world have finally lost it, and I preferred to let my > Hawk- > > appreciation rest in peace. > > > > It was years before I finally heard some of the 90's material and realised > > they were still doing the business. > > > > I still don't particularly like either of the above albums although they > > don't upset me as much as they once did! Other people love them, I know, > > but there you go. > > > > Three gigs in the last 5 months have gone some way to making up for this > > appalling lapse. > From john at JMAIL.FSBUSINESS.CO.UK Wed Mar 28 14:07:40 2001 From: john at JMAIL.FSBUSINESS.CO.UK (John Rennie) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:07:40 +0100 Subject: Repeat Performance (was RE: HW: 80s and beyond) In-Reply-To: <3AC19EF7.71640E61@aol.com> Message-ID: Me too :-) Is Calvert in a fit state to sign anything these days? The last I heard he had kind of lost it. If/when I can find PXR5 on CD I'd be in a position to reconstruct a CD of Repeat Performance ... JR -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of iain ferguson Sent: 28 March 2001 09:21 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) John, Repeat Performance is an absolute stunner of a compilation album. I also love the picture of the Baron on the back. Now if I could get that picture in a 10 X 8, I'd get it signed by the man and frame it. Regards Iain John Rennie wrote: > A few years ago when I first got a CDR I put together a "best of" album with > just tracks from the pre Calvert albums. I had to leave some off because my > favourites wouldn't fit into 74 minutes! I've finally managed to find CDs > of all the Calvert albums except PXR5 and in due course I'll make a "best > of" compilation from the Calvert albums. > > Incidently if anyone knows where I can get a copy of PXR5 on CD, preferably > the Virgin UK release, please let me know! > > Actually the best of album didn't work as well as I thought. I think it's > too much having all your favourite tracks one after the other. You need > some less well loved tracks in between to provide some contrast. Mind you I > don't know if anyone remembers the compilation album Repeat Performance > released by Charisma some time around 1979. This is pretty close to being a > definitive best of the Calvert albums. Sadly it never made it to CD. > > JR > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Chuck Rosenberg > Sent: 27 March 2001 06:25 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) > > In a message dated 3/26/01 1:19:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, > ceres at SIRIUS.COM > writes: > > > Hmmm ... couldn't fit that "greatest hits" package on a single CD ... > > > > -Doug > > we did this awhile ago, though i think it was just '80s. Lemme see what > comes > off the top of my head this time... > > 1.Ghost Dance > ... From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Mar 28 13:52:12 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:52:12 +0100 Subject: HW - Barney Bubbles Message-ID: If anyone has any stories or info or anything on Barney Bubbles and his relations with the Underground Press and Hawkwind, can you contact Mike Heath on culture.shock at virgin.net This has been a public service announcement Andy Garibaldi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Wed Mar 28 15:39:02 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:39:02 +1200 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >What's the longest time anyone's > >gone between HW gigs I wonder. from the beginning of man's time on earth until 2000 AD and from 2000 AD until now ..... and counting ! Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Wed Mar 28 15:46:55 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:46:55 -0500 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: The detail is much appreciated. So it seems there are around 8 different versions if I am deciphering it correctly. BTW, what does the 'L' mean? I've got alot of catching up to do with all the CD releases in the last decade so I'll aim to get one version of each. Cheers, Alastair. >>From the Codex: > > >You Shouldn't Do That > 1 X In Search Of Space > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 2 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 > L 2 a In The Beginning > L 2 a The Text Of Festival > L 2 a Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 3 The Text of Festival LP {Sound Shouldn't Improvise} > L 3 The Text of Festival CD {Improvise, Comprise, Reprise} > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II CD > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 4 Acid Daze Vol. III > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. III LP > L 4 The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind > L 4 Night Riding > L 4 The Hawkwind Collection LP > L 4 Space Is Deep > L 4 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) > L 4 a Roadhawks > L 4 a Stasis > L 4 a (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > L 4 a Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > L 4 a Space Ritual Alive [remastered CD only] > L 4 b Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 5 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II {Watchfield Festival} > L 5 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] {Watchfield Festival} > L 5 Acid Daze Vol. II {Watchfield Festival} > L 6 Glastonbury 90 {Shouldn't Do That} > L 7 Rock City > L 8 The Business Trip {Do That} > > * Two versions of this on Text Of Festival > The CD track is misnamed for another track on the album. > * 2a is a cut of 2 > * On 4-4b You Shouldn't Do That formed the 1st half of a segue > with Seeing It As You Really Are as the encore to Space Ritual Alive > * 4 is the complete version plus intro > * 4a is version 4 with a cut intro > * 4b is version 4 with no intro > * The Watchfield festival track is a jam starting with You Shouldn't > Do That > * This occurs twice on the Anthology albums since it's also part > of the track Watchfield Festival From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Mar 28 16:31:19 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:31:19 +0100 Subject: Repeat Performance (was RE: HW: 80s and beyond) In-Reply-To: <001501c0b7ba$707108f0$0100a8c0@rattus> Message-ID: In message <001501c0b7ba$707108f0$0100a8c0 at rattus>, John Rennie writes > Is Calvert in a fit state to sign anything these days? The last >I heard he had kind of lost it. I'm guessing that you really don't know if you've been away from the Hawk- temple for years- sad to say, Bob died of a heart attack in 1988. But his memory lives on, notably at the remarkable "Spirit Of The Page" website: http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/ -- Nick Medford From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Mar 28 17:30:20 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:30:20 -0500 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices Message-ID: Hi Folks... Well, this kind of links up to an earlier thread ending with some discussion of libertarianism. On that note, the local grocery store chain (Kroger's) that I've shopped at for years suddenly introduced this ridiculous "Plus Card" (tm) that appears to save you money and make it seem like they think you're important to their business. Well, my immediate scepticism (and my abrupt "No!" when asked if I would like to sign up for one...."But it only takes a minute.") was based on a couple simple facts....1. Weren't there already sale prices for certain grocery items *already* before the card came into existence?, and 2. If it's free, then why have it at all? If it's actually *worth* something, perhaps I'd be willing to pay for it, but I just don't see what benefit it has. So, obviously, noting that you were required to fill out a name/address/etc., and then that each was barcoded specifically for you such that it was passed before the 'evil eye' during checkout, I was certain that the card has one (and only one) real purpose. A forced market research campaign. It effectively replaces the worthless paper marketing surveys that they occasionally send in the mail (where they would try to entice you to fill it out, by entering you in some lottery drawing for a cruise or something like that). Of course, hardly anyone wastes the time and postage to return those. These are much better! Near total participation, completely automated, and great long-term data from individual repeat customers! Well, it's disgusting, and I won't do it. Unfortunately, Big Bear down the street has the same bloody thing, and Meijer (that doesn't *yet* have it) is quite a drive away. But at least Big Bear doesn't have *all* their sales linked up to the card, so I have temporarily switched to that store. But I did write them a nasty letter too. I also wrote to www.privacyfoundation.org, which I learned about from the TiVo scandal, and they sent a reply back saying basically, 'Yep, you're right. They do only want to peer into your buying habits. And if you want to have a little fun with them, you can swap cards with somebody else every so often.' :) They also told me about this other site, which is the home to CASPIAN, Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering. They are my heroes! :) http://www.nocards.org And because of Kroger's new card, they have a special response, which is quite interesting. You're paying for their market research! :) http://www.nocards.org/savings/krogerads.shtml Well, that's enough ranting from me, lest you think I've gone all loopy in the head. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Have these things gone nationwide? Worldwide? They should be banned quicker than human cloning! :) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Mar 28 18:01:39 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:01:39 -0500 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: <200103282241.RAA03796@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 05:30:20PM -0500 Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 05:30:20PM -0500, K Henderson wrote: > P.S. Have these things [market-research cards] gone nationwide? Worldwide? They should be banned > quicker than human cloning! :) Well, they're here (Canada). Chapters (the country's *only* big book-store chain -- small economies suck!) does this. They always ask if I want a discount card. Fortunately they're polite when I say no; I'd hate to have to flame some poor sales-peon. I'm willing to put up with HMV's. It's a loyalty scheme where you buy 10 CDs and get one free. The cards aren't barcoded; they only get my name when I trade in a full card and fill out a form. So they only learn 1/11th of my purchases -- actually less, since CDs under $16.99 aren't eligible. And I make a point of scrawling the form even more illegibly than my usual handwriting :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Mar 28 18:18:42 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:18:42 -0500 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: <200103282241.RAA03796@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Keith, This has been going on for quite some time. I recall when I was a GTA for the Professionalism in Computing class here I screened some sort of video called "They Know Where You Live" (or something similar), which was about Direct Marketing. It's all about the quest for data. More specifically, purchase histories. Some supermarkets actually started with store credit cards, so they could tie register data with individuals. You can probably blame data mining for the increase in all this lately. Having done a data mining class, and looked at some of the algorithms and approaches used, it is just as useful to know that X bought these items together, rather than Keith Henderson of Ohio bought these items together. That's why they're not fanatical about verifying your information. The name and address only come in handy for them if they decide to start sending you "targeted promotions." :-) Incidentally, haven't you realised that WWW sites have been doing this for ages (assuming you have cookies enabled)? It is becoming more prevalent as folks jump on the "personalisation" bandwagon. To answer your question about how widespread this is, I can say our Kroger introduced it at least a year ago. I was fairly miffed because their "buy one get one free" type promotions now only apply when using the Kroger Plus card, and there are now many "Kroger Plus" savings which only apply when using the card. But, as I filled out my application in the name of J. R. "Bob" Dobbs of Dallas, TX, I don't lose too much sleep over it. Food Lion introduced this here much before Kroger. (Food Lion have the "MVP Card;" what an ego boost every day!;) I still have my (now dog-eared) temporary card, and so don't even have a fictitious ID registered with them. The cashiers occasionally do a double-take at it every now and then (it is not even plastic, like the real ["permanent?"] cards). Mind you, Food Lion do sometimes run lottery promotions, such as free groceries for a year, and cash prizes, etc., so I have wondered if I've ever won any of these and had it go unclaimed. :-) => And because of Kroger's new card, they have a special response, which is => quite interesting. You're paying for their market research! :) Are you saying your Kroger Plus card offers no benefits? I get good savings with the one I use. (BTW, at our Kroger, coupons up to 50 cents are *always* doubled when using the Kroger Plus card, which is a big saver.) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Mar 28 18:22:55 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:22:55 +0800 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: Stephen Lindas said: > I haven't seen HAWKWIND in almost 4 years.BOO HOO. They never come here. > STEPHE I haven't seen Hawkwind at ALL :-( Bill From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Mar 28 18:26:45 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:26:45 +0800 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: Sam wrote: > > >What's the longest time anyone's > >gone between HW gigs I wonder. > From September 1958 to March 29, 2001 Bill From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Wed Mar 28 18:38:27 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:38:27 -0500 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices Message-ID: From: "K Henderson" > On that note, the local grocery store chain (Kroger's) that I've shopped at > for years suddenly introduced this ridiculous "Plus Card" (tm) that appears > to save you money and make it seem like they think you're important to their > business. Well, my immediate scepticism (and my abrupt "No!" when asked if I > would like to sign up for one...."But it only takes a minute.") was based on > a couple simple facts....1. Weren't there already sale prices for certain > grocery items *already* before the card came into existence?, and 2. If it's > free, then why have it at all? If it's actually *worth* something, perhaps > I'd be willing to pay for it, but I just don't see what benefit it has. There's a grocery store here that does the same thing. It really pisses me off. The only way to get items on sale is if you have their "Gold" card. I don't like it because they have the number linked to you, and everytime you use it they know when you shopped (what days/times - how often) and what you buy, how much you spend, and possibly if you use large bills. I can see something similar coming with (cable TV) set-top boxes. I better stop before I start ranting.... Jerry From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Mar 28 18:55:45 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:55:45 -0500 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:26:45 +0800, Bill & Cynthia wrote: >Sam wrote: >> >> >What's the longest time anyone's >> >gone between HW gigs I wonder. >> > From September 1958 to March 29, 2001 Are you allowed to count back before 1969, since seeing Hawkwind before then would have required a time machine? ;^) If I start counting from the point at which I discovered Hawkwind (fall '84), it would be almost exactly 5 years (to fall '89). Since then, the longest strech would be 4-1/2 years (fall '90 to spring '95). And now it's been almost 3 (or 4, depending on how you count the Brock-less performance at Strange Daze '98) ... time to get that US Passport ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Wed Mar 28 23:09:15 2001 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:09:15 -0800 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yeah, All this new technology is bullcrap. I don't know why we put up with it. DO away with it all. And fleurine. Who needs flowery water anyways? Heh, even those fricking keyboards and synthesizers are too much. OOps, went to faaaaar. . . . . . Technology marches on, but you gotta pay the piper. Just make sure you come out ahead. At 06:18 PM 3/28/01 -0500, you wrote: >Keith, > >This has been going on for quite some time. I recall when I was a GTA >for the Professionalism in Computing class here I screened some sort of >video called "They Know Where You Live" (or something similar), which >was about Direct Marketing. It's all about the quest for data. More >specifically, purchase histories. Some supermarkets actually started >with store credit cards, so they could tie register data with >individuals. > >You can probably blame data mining for the increase in all this lately. >Having done a data mining class, and looked at some of the algorithms >and approaches used, it is just as useful to know that X bought these >items together, rather than Keith Henderson of Ohio bought these items >together. That's why they're not fanatical about verifying your >information. The name and address only come in handy for them if they >decide to start sending you "targeted promotions." :-) > >Incidentally, haven't you realised that WWW sites have been doing this >for ages (assuming you have cookies enabled)? It is becoming more >prevalent as folks jump on the "personalisation" bandwagon. > >To answer your question about how widespread this is, I can say our >Kroger introduced it at least a year ago. I was fairly miffed because >their "buy one get one free" type promotions now only apply when using >the Kroger Plus card, and there are now many "Kroger Plus" savings which >only apply when using the card. But, as I filled out my application in >the name of J. R. "Bob" Dobbs of Dallas, TX, I don't lose too much sleep >over it. > >Food Lion introduced this here much before Kroger. (Food Lion have the >"MVP Card;" what an ego boost every day!;) I still have my (now >dog-eared) temporary card, and so don't even have a fictitious ID >registered with them. The cashiers occasionally do a double-take at it >every now and then (it is not even plastic, like the real ["permanent?"] >cards). Mind you, Food Lion do sometimes run lottery promotions, such >as free groceries for a year, and cash prizes, etc., so I have wondered >if I've ever won any of these and had it go unclaimed. :-) > >=> And because of Kroger's new card, they have a special response, which is >=> quite interesting. You're paying for their market research! :) > >Are you saying your Kroger Plus card offers no benefits? I get good >savings with the one I use. (BTW, at our Kroger, coupons up to 50 cents >are *always* doubled when using the Kroger Plus card, which is a big >saver.) > >Cheers, > >Paul. > >e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > >"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Mar 28 20:27:47 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:27:47 -0500 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:18:42 -0500, Paul Mather wrote: >This has been going on for quite some time... In California, the major supermarkets have had the "discount" cards for some time (around 5 years, maybe?). However, the backlash has set in, and of the two major chains with presence in Northern California, one (Albertson's, including former Lucky stores) has dropped them, preferring to advertise "the same low prices for EVERYONE". Safeway still has the cards. Guess which one I shop at? Of course, I've probably already *)&%&*$#ed up by using the "Beverages & More" card, so there's a computer out there somewhere that has a pretty accurate record of my alcohol consumption. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Mar 28 20:54:23 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:54:23 -0500 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:37:12 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >It's also a weird argument to make in an SF context since it generally >deals with "What if?" rather than "What is?". I think it IS an interesting (if not necessarily important) argument to make in an SF context since "What if?" frequently means "What do I want?" or (equally importantly) "What do I NOT want?". Although perhaps this is a good place to draw the line between "science fiction" and "speculative fiction", since the latter category ("What do I NOT want?") seems to be frequently employed by authors NOT of the science-fiction "genre" dabbling in "science fiction"-like situations in order to make a political point. Cases in point: '1984' (the obvious one!) - anti-communist/anti-fascist middle-bureaucrat socialist author creates world where socialist government is entirely co- opted by communist/fascist-type authoritarians who oppress middle- bureaucrats. 'The Turner Diaries' - rascist author creates world run by "degenerate mullato" types who oppress those of "the master race". 'The Handmaid's Tale' - feminist author creates world run by male- supremacist fundamentalist christians who oppress women. 'Atlas Shrugged' - ultra-capitalist/right-wing-libertarian creates world where socialist governments have destroyed the economy and oppress capitalist types (who are the only ones can get it up?!). All extremely heavy-handed in their presentation, and only one ('1984') with *remotely* non-cardboard characters (heroes OR villains, and even those in 1984 are hardly well-rounded). "Literary" values all over the maps, however (in those examples). One of the reasons I like Spinrad's 'Iron Dream' so much is that it's a hilarious parody (on several levels) of this sort of "masochist's wet dream" negative-utopia-story. Perhaps because "true" SF authors are more steeped in considering "alternative realities", they're able to do so in a more (not necessarily objective) subtle(?), non-encompassing(?) manner (groping for a description here, sorry). Or, it could just be that to them, the main point is telling a story, not "making a point". For example - back to Moorcock - one can certainly see anti-royalist and anti-militarist sentiments at the heart of the Elric and Jerry Cornelius series', respectively. But those political viewpoints are nowhere near the main focus of any of those stories (or so it strikes me). Me, I'd rather consider the kind of world I DO want (not that I know what it is!). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Mar 28 22:42:14 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:42:14 -0500 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices Message-ID: Paul said, >This has been going on for quite some time. I recall when I was a GTA >for the Professionalism in Computing class here I screened some sort of >video called "They Know Where You Live" (or something similar), which >was about Direct Marketing. It's all about the quest for data. More >specifically, purchase histories. Some supermarkets actually started >with store credit cards, so they could tie register data with >individuals. Yeah, and I've always paid cash for everything (under a reasonable $ amount), including groceries. [Not really because of privacy, but rather just because I hate being surprised about huge cc bills showing up when I only think about the one or two major purchases I made, and forget the 10 $20 purchases I made. So I use cash for those, so I don't tend to overspend.] I assume that the possibility exists for collecting data on anyone who has been regularly paying with a debit/credit card. Maybe why those have been more easily accepted at grocery stores in recent years as well? >You can probably blame data mining for the increase in all this lately. >Having done a data mining class, and looked at some of the algorithms >and approaches used, it is just as useful to know that X bought these >items together, rather than Keith Henderson of Ohio bought these items >together. It's Heath Mackendrick, actually. :) At least that's what it says in the phone book. :) (I get the jump on telemarkers, given there's no such person. And I don't have to pay the phone company the money to keep my name off the lists they sell to those bastards.) >That's why they're not fanatical about verifying your >information. The name and address only come in handy for them if they >decide to start sending you "targeted promotions." :-) Yes, I realize that. But I don't really care about my *specific* privacy in regards to grocery items I buy (what the hell do I really care if they know what I've purchased?...Froot Loops, mostly) :) It's the fact that they're making it 'mandatory,' and doing it in a way that intends to be subversive. So I don't want them succeeding in getting data from me, whether they know it's me or not. So using an alias in this case wouldn't actually make me feel better. Now, exchanging the cards with somebody else every month, which would pretty much turn their data into random numbers (people becoming vegan suddenly, and then not), would please me greatly. Of course, 50% of the people with the cards would need to do it, so..... >Incidentally, haven't you realised that WWW sites have been doing this >for ages (assuming you have cookies enabled)? It is becoming more >prevalent as folks jump on the "personalisation" bandwagon. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But I've been free to make that choice, and decided that I'm not bothered by it so much. I don't feel blackmailed by it. >To answer your question about how widespread this is, I can say our >Kroger introduced it at least a year ago. I was fairly miffed because >their "buy one get one free" type promotions now only apply when using >the Kroger Plus card, and there are now many "Kroger Plus" savings which >only apply when using the card. But, as I filled out my application in >the name of J. R. "Bob" Dobbs of Dallas, TX, I don't lose too much sleep >over it. Slacker. >Food Lion introduced this here much before Kroger. (Food Lion have the >"MVP Card;" what an ego boost every day!;) I still have my (now >dog-eared) temporary card, and so don't even have a fictitious ID >registered with them. The cashiers occasionally do a double-take at it >every now and then (it is not even plastic, like the real ["permanent?"] >cards). Mind you, Food Lion do sometimes run lottery promotions, such >as free groceries for a year, and cash prizes, etc., so I have wondered >if I've ever won any of these and had it go unclaimed. :-) > >=> And because of Kroger's new card, they have a special response, which is >=> quite interesting. You're paying for their market research! :) > >Are you saying your Kroger Plus card offers no benefits? I get good >savings with the one I use. (BTW, at our Kroger, coupons up to 50 cents >are *always* doubled when using the Kroger Plus card, which is a big >saver.) I don't believe for one minute that the average price paid for the average grocery item purchased with using the Plus card is any less than it was before the thing was introduced. The website I forwarded did a simple price comparison (hardly enough items to be absolutely certain), and determined that you actually paid a little more after the card came into effect. So, I believe that unless you specifically purchase groceries based on what the *very best* deals are, that the cost savings are virtually zilch. I mean, for what possible reason could groceries end up being cheaper just because they decided to say so? What, they all took pay cuts or something? They only way you *don't* benefit is if you don't get the card! Which is f*cking crap. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. I'm surprised that Columbus was *late* in the game on this front. (I had seen these actually in California three years ago, but didn't understand what the hell it was for...still don't). 'Cause Columbus is often a market research town, supposedly represents 'middle America.' From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Mar 28 22:49:30 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:49:30 -0500 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices Message-ID: Jerry said... >> 1. Weren't there already sale prices for certain >> grocery items *already* before the card came into existence?, and 2. If >> it's free, then why have it at all? If it's actually *worth* something, >> perhaps I'd be willing to pay for it, but I just don't see what benefit it >> has. > >There's a grocery store here that does the same thing. It really pisses >me off. The only way to get items on sale is if you have their "Gold" card. I >don't like it because they have the number linked to you, and everytime you use >it they know when you shopped (what days/times - how often) and what >you buy, how much you spend, and possibly if you use large bills. Um, yeah. >I can see something similar coming with (cable TV) set-top boxes. Gee, even I, who is normally out of the loop with such things, have heard about the flack over TiVo, the digital cable service that is defending itself over the cries of privacy invasion in regards to their collecting preference data from their customers. They claim (I think) that they don't actually tie individual's names to the information. But, as I was saying in the other post, that still isn't good enough. Each individual customer should have the option of saying 'yes' or 'no' to their information being collected whatsoever, and without any financial penalty. Like checking the box on your tax form about whether you want to donate $1 to the presidential election fund, or whatever. I'd like to donate $1 to the presidential impeachment fund, perhaps.... Grakkl (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Mar 28 23:09:20 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:09:20 -0500 Subject: HW: Sonic Attack Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1420083988 Alright, which one of you posed for this! :) Grakkl (FAA) ObLP for sale... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1420138708 In the words of Dave Brock..."Don't be a sheep...Baaaahhh...Baaaaahhhh" P.S. Why does this Japanese Live '79 have 15 tracks? Is this another version of the Levitation/Live '79 package? I've got one of those, but it's two CD's in a double-wide carrier. (And I would've thought that would be a few more than 15 tracks anyway.) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1419741718 From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Mar 29 00:43:54 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:43:54 -0600 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: <200103290353.WAA21832@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, K Henderson wrote: :Subject: Re: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices : :It's Heath Mackendrick, actually. :) At least that's what it says in the :phone book. :) (I get the jump on telemarkers, given there's no such :person. And I don't have to pay the phone company the money to keep my name :off the lists they sell to those bastards.) I do this too. I'm in the book as Ali Arin. Good way of telling who is the telemarketer and what mail is complete junk. :Yes, I realize that. But I don't really care about my *specific* privacy in :regards to grocery items I buy (what the hell do I really care if they know :what I've purchased?...Froot Loops, mostly) :) It's the fact that they're :making it 'mandatory,' and doing it in a way that intends to be subversive. :So I don't want them succeeding in getting data from me, whether they know :it's me or not. So using an alias in this case wouldn't actually make me :feel better. Now, exchanging the cards with somebody else every month, :which would pretty much turn their data into random numbers (people becoming :vegan suddenly, and then not), would please me greatly. Of course, 50% of :the people with the cards would need to do it, so..... I tend to go for the "too much information" route (use 10 cards and keep as many different identities as you can get away with ;-) ) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Thu Mar 29 00:45:45 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:45:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: Ron's great and Rizz is just wonderful. I agree entirely. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Michael S. Habiby [mailto:mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM] Sent: 28 March 2001 17:51 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Croydon I saw Ron once. In '97. He was just awesome. He was in white paint from head to jeans.. and stood in front of a black light. Therefore he was PURPLE all show. Very cool. Loved his Sonic Attack. But then I am so open minded I enjoyed Capt. Rizz too. But then again I love Reggae so there ya go. Enough rambling. -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "A truly great man never puts away the simplicity of a child. " --Chinese Proverb Michael W Blackman wrote: i'LL BET SOME FOLKS SAID THE SAME SORT OF STUFF ABOUT bOB cALVERT WHEN HE FIRST GOT UP AND STARTED doing his thing All opinions respected 100% So heres mine They aint nothing wrong with RonTree ( He's cool man) Let the man have his space to be creative and express himself is all I say Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Jermy To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: HW: Croydon I'm going to kill the sound engineer if I ever get my hands on him. Much as I love Alan's playing, being able to hear that to the virtual exclusion of all else for most of the gig is somewhat frustrating - Dave's guitar was inaudible and Jerry's was most of the time. Technical hitch (what did happen to Richard?) was unfortunate, but the version of High Rise they pulled off was good, followed by some great Space Ritual poetry ad hoc from Ron - I still think they could do without him (especially since they had up to 10 people on-stage tonight at some point...), but he's getting better each gig I see him. If he just concentrated on the Calvert stuff, I think I'd enjoy seeing him full-time. Getting back to Croydon...I can't recall the entire set-list, but there was definitely (and in probably the wrong order too): Hmm. I had very good sound almost all night. Could hear Everyone. 7 rows back right in front of the PA on the left(not bad considering I got my tickets about 7:15pm!). I think it`s definitly where you are in this place. Same thing happened last year. I had awful sound all night but others said it was fine. Si gig/sound/meeting/Bedouin guitarist ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr Mark Jermy Automotive, Combustion and Energy Engineering School of Mechanical Engineering Cranfield University Cranfield, Beds, MK43 0AL, Great Britain Tel +44 1234 754680 Fax +44 1234 750425 http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/sme/aeod/homepage.htm *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Thu Mar 29 00:48:53 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:48:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: wow - that's profound. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Richard Stockwell [mailto:richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ] Sent: 28 March 2001 21:39 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > >What's the longest time anyone's > >gone between HW gigs I wonder. from the beginning of man's time on earth until 2000 AD and from 2000 AD until now ..... and counting ! Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Thu Mar 29 00:55:01 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:55:01 +0100 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices Message-ID: What's the TiVo scandal?? Must have missed that one...... Sam -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson [mailto:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] Sent: 28 March 2001 23:30 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices Hi Folks... Well, this kind of links up to an earlier thread ending with some discussion of libertarianism. On that note, the local grocery store chain (Kroger's) that I've shopped at for years suddenly introduced this ridiculous "Plus Card" (tm) that appears to save you money and make it seem like they think you're important to their business. Well, my immediate scepticism (and my abrupt "No!" when asked if I would like to sign up for one...."But it only takes a minute.") was based on a couple simple facts....1. Weren't there already sale prices for certain grocery items *already* before the card came into existence?, and 2. If it's free, then why have it at all? If it's actually *worth* something, perhaps I'd be willing to pay for it, but I just don't see what benefit it has. So, obviously, noting that you were required to fill out a name/address/etc., and then that each was barcoded specifically for you such that it was passed before the 'evil eye' during checkout, I was certain that the card has one (and only one) real purpose. A forced market research campaign. It effectively replaces the worthless paper marketing surveys that they occasionally send in the mail (where they would try to entice you to fill it out, by entering you in some lottery drawing for a cruise or something like that). Of course, hardly anyone wastes the time and postage to return those. These are much better! Near total participation, completely automated, and great long-term data from individual repeat customers! Well, it's disgusting, and I won't do it. Unfortunately, Big Bear down the street has the same bloody thing, and Meijer (that doesn't *yet* have it) is quite a drive away. But at least Big Bear doesn't have *all* their sales linked up to the card, so I have temporarily switched to that store. But I did write them a nasty letter too. I also wrote to www.privacyfoundation.org, which I learned about from the TiVo scandal, and they sent a reply back saying basically, 'Yep, you're right. They do only want to peer into your buying habits. And if you want to have a little fun with them, you can swap cards with somebody else every so often.' :) They also told me about this other site, which is the home to CASPIAN, Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering. They are my heroes! :) http://www.nocards.org And because of Kroger's new card, they have a special response, which is quite interesting. You're paying for their market research! :) http://www.nocards.org/savings/krogerads.shtml Well, that's enough ranting from me, lest you think I've gone all loopy in the head. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Have these things gone nationwide? Worldwide? They should be banned quicker than human cloning! :) *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Thu Mar 29 01:00:33 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:00:33 +0100 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices Message-ID: That's what I do all day - fix digital STB's. Oh & watch TV Sam -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson [mailto:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] Sent: 29 March 2001 04:50 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices Jerry said... >> 1. Weren't there already sale prices for certain >> grocery items *already* before the card came into existence?, and 2. If >> it's free, then why have it at all? If it's actually *worth* something, >> perhaps I'd be willing to pay for it, but I just don't see what benefit it >> has. > >There's a grocery store here that does the same thing. It really pisses >me off. The only way to get items on sale is if you have their "Gold" card. I >don't like it because they have the number linked to you, and everytime you use >it they know when you shopped (what days/times - how often) and what >you buy, how much you spend, and possibly if you use large bills. Um, yeah. >I can see something similar coming with (cable TV) set-top boxes. Gee, even I, who is normally out of the loop with such things, have heard about the flack over TiVo, the digital cable service that is defending itself over the cries of privacy invasion in regards to their collecting preference data from their customers. They claim (I think) that they don't actually tie individual's names to the information. But, as I was saying in the other post, that still isn't good enough. Each individual customer should have the option of saying 'yes' or 'no' to their information being collected whatsoever, and without any financial penalty. Like checking the box on your tax form about whether you want to donate $1 to the presidential election fund, or whatever. I'd like to donate $1 to the presidential impeachment fund, perhaps.... Grakkl (FAA) *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Mar 29 01:16:23 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:16:23 +0800 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: Bill said: From September 1958 to March 29, 2001 Doug wrote: > Are you allowed to count back before 1969, since seeing Hawkwind before > then would have required a time machine? ;^) > A time machine they may have. Already Hawkwind's possessions are: 1) An anti-radiation machine 2) Needle Gun 3) Orgone Accumulator 4) Nuclear Drive 5) Robot 6) Silver Machine and of course the Mothership (long may she fly) Bill From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Thu Mar 29 01:15:39 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:15:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: What about the guns in their cellar Sam -----Original Message----- From: Bill & Cynthia [mailto:freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU] Sent: 29 March 2001 07:16 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Bill said: From September 1958 to March 29, 2001 Doug wrote: > Are you allowed to count back before 1969, since seeing Hawkwind before > then would have required a time machine? ;^) > A time machine they may have. Already Hawkwind's possessions are: 1) An anti-radiation machine 2) Needle Gun 3) Orgone Accumulator 4) Nuclear Drive 5) Robot 6) Silver Machine and of course the Mothership (long may she fly) Bill *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 29 01:18:40 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:48:40 +0930 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: Hi Bill, You guys live in Perth right?? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 8:52 AM Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > Stephen Lindas said: > > > I haven't seen HAWKWIND in almost 4 years.BOO HOO. They never come here. > > STEPHE > > I haven't seen Hawkwind at ALL :-( > > Bill From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 29 01:20:43 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:50:43 +0930 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices Message-ID: Technology for creative endeavours YES From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Mar 29 01:45:04 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:45:04 +0800 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: Lol. Can't forget them! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Kirwan" To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 2:15 PM Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > What about the guns in their cellar > > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill & Cynthia [mailto:freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU] > Sent: 29 March 2001 07:16 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > > > Bill said: From September 1958 to March 29, 2001 > > Doug wrote: > > Are you allowed to count back before 1969, since seeing Hawkwind before > > then would have required a time machine? ;^) > > > A time machine they may have. Already Hawkwind's possessions are: > 1) An anti-radiation machine > 2) Needle Gun > 3) Orgone Accumulator > 4) Nuclear Drive > 5) Robot > 6) Silver Machine > and of course the Mothership (long may she fly) > > Bill > > > **************************************************************************** ******* > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > **************************************************************************** ******* > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Mar 29 01:48:28 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:48:28 +0800 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: Michael said: > Hi Bill, > > You guys live in Perth right?? > Hi Michael Yes we do live in Perth. Bill From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Mar 29 01:54:12 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:54:12 +0800 Subject: HW: A Question r Message-ID: I've been meaning for a while to ask whether Hawkwind has ever done this song - "The Weighing of the Heart and Negative Confession?" I found it on Napster and downloaded it. It certainly sounds like HW. It goes BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA.... Can anyone tell me anything about it. Cheers Bill From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Thu Mar 29 01:52:12 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:52:12 -0500 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: Hello, I ain't had a taste of the live experience since 1997. Having seen the band more than 60 times between 1977 and 1997, it has been hard to take a 4 year gap. Records, vids and rare radio/TV appearances keep me going.. The problem is that the lack of a full UK tour has coincided with the following events in my life: Marriage New house Daughter Job change LACK OF MONEY Family Commitments Some days I wished I lived in London or close by..... But then the might Liverpool Football Club would be 200 miles away. Life is tuff! Mark From joe.e at TELIA.COM Thu Mar 29 02:47:31 2001 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:47:31 +0200 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: At 14:16 2001-03-29 +0800, you wrote: >Bill said: From September 1958 to March 29, 2001 > >Doug wrote: >> Are you allowed to count back before 1969, since seeing Hawkwind before >> then would have required a time machine? ;^) >> > A time machine they may have. Already Hawkwind's possessions are: >1) An anti-radiation machine >2) Needle Gun >3) Orgone Accumulator >4) Nuclear Drive >5) Robot >6) Silver Machine >and of course the Mothership (long may she fly) The Time Machine had to be captured from the Grand Funk Railroad's arsenal. >Bill .joe From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Thu Mar 29 03:12:03 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:12:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Careful use of the saxophone Message-ID: Hi folks, a question for those who've seen Jez Huggett on stage with HW: what do you think of the way he plays the sax? I like the presence of the sax, but I think he plays it in a very different way to Nik. Of course, Jez is bound to come in for some criticism because he'll always be compared to Nik, and he will always do things in his own style i.e. slightly differently. However, I feel there is a fundamental difference: Nik always played coherent muscial structures, usually going smoothly up and down that scale (this is true also of his playing with ICU), whereas Jez' style seems more like jazz sax which includes dissonant leaps over large parts of the scale. I've never found this very pleasant, it seems gratituous to me. What do you think folks? Does anyone know if Jez plays the flute? I thought I saw a flute in his rack on stage at Croydon but don't remember it being played. Much underestimated rock instrument I think. I've always liked Nik's flute contributions, as well as Ian Anderson's in Jethro Tull. I liked Huw's set at Croydon. A bit of mellow acoustic guitar between two solid blocks of blanga provided a nice contrast, to my taste. Cheers, Mark From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Thu Mar 29 03:18:53 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:18:53 +0200 Subject: HW: A Question r In-Reply-To: <001f01c0b81d$1d5efa60$8cb23bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: Hi, >I've been meaning for a while to ask whether Hawkwind has ever done this >song - "The Weighing of the Heart and Negative Confession?" >I found it on Napster and downloaded it. It certainly sounds like HW. >It goes BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA.... >Can anyone tell me anything about it. It's not a "real" HW-song, but a Nik Turner-solo. It can be found on Nik's "Sphynx" CD. (c)IAO D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Thu Mar 29 03:33:56 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:33:56 +0100 Subject: Careful use of the saxophone Message-ID: I think he looks like a member of Madness, UB40 - something like that. Definitely a square peg. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mark Jermy [mailto:m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK] Sent: 29 March 2001 09:12 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Careful use of the saxophone Hi folks, a question for those who've seen Jez Huggett on stage with HW: what do you think of the way he plays the sax? I like the presence of the sax, but I think he plays it in a very different way to Nik. Of course, Jez is bound to come in for some criticism because he'll always be compared to Nik, and he will always do things in his own style i.e. slightly differently. However, I feel there is a fundamental difference: Nik always played coherent muscial structures, usually going smoothly up and down that scale (this is true also of his playing with ICU), whereas Jez' style seems more like jazz sax which includes dissonant leaps over large parts of the scale. I've never found this very pleasant, it seems gratituous to me. What do you think folks? Does anyone know if Jez plays the flute? I thought I saw a flute in his rack on stage at Croydon but don't remember it being played. Much underestimated rock instrument I think. I've always liked Nik's flute contributions, as well as Ian Anderson's in Jethro Tull. I liked Huw's set at Croydon. A bit of mellow acoustic guitar between two solid blocks of blanga provided a nice contrast, to my taste. Cheers, Mark *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Mar 29 03:43:18 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:43:18 +0800 Subject: HW: A Question r Message-ID: Thanks Denis, I'll have to look out for that one. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Regenbrecht" To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 4:18 PM Subject: Re: HW: A Question r > Hi, > > >I've been meaning for a while to ask whether Hawkwind has ever done this > >song - "The Weighing of the Heart and Negative Confession?" > >I found it on Napster and downloaded it. It certainly sounds like HW. > >It goes BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA.... > >Can anyone tell me anything about it. > > It's not a "real" HW-song, but a Nik Turner-solo. It can be found on Nik's > "Sphynx" CD. > > (c)IAO > > D+R > > -- > "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" > Hassan I Sabbah > > www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 29 05:23:27 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:23:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven In-Reply-To: Bob Lennon's message of Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:42:12 EST Message-ID: Bob Lennon writes: > In a message dated 3/28/01 5:32:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, > fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > > > Bob Lennon writes: > > > > > > > Mike Coleman wishes to express that his hard drive has been > > > > > removed > > > > > > Weren't all the platters working? > > > > > uh, what's a platter? > > > > Before your time. > > > > FoFP > o.k. I believe you, but when was before my time, and what's a platter? > (unless it's of course something simple like the thing you get for dinner or > something...) Hard disks used to be composed of a number of layers known as "platters" which were read independently by multiple heads. Hie thee to a tech museum and have a look. Or pop into my office. I have one under the desk here. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 29 05:28:37 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:28:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That (Was Re: Croydon) In-Reply-To: Alastair Lee Sumner's message of Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:46:55 -0500 Message-ID: Alastair Lee Sumner writes: > The detail is much appreciated. So it seems there are around 8 different > versions if I am deciphering it correctly. BTW, what does the 'L' mean? Live. > I've got alot of catching up to do with all the CD releases in the last > decade so I'll aim to get one version of each. Here's the key: Key: Tracks are listed by name. Different versions of tracks are listed by number and by the albums which feature them. An attempt has been made to arrange the numbered versions chronologically. Where one version of a track is derived from, or very similar to another this is indicated by an alphabetic character. Where tracks have a different title on a particular album, this is indicated by enclosing the title in curly brackets. Where a track appears only on a particular medium, this is indicated in square brackets. Where tracks are live, this is indicated by an "L". Where a track name has been reused for a different song this is denoted by seperate entries indexed by an alphabetic letter in angle brackets after the track name. Other notes are indicated by asterisks. > >From the Codex: > > > > > >You Shouldn't Do That > > 1 X In Search Of Space > > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > > L 2 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 > > L 2 a In The Beginning > > L 2 a The Text Of Festival > > L 2 a Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > > L 3 The Text of Festival LP {Sound Shouldn't Improvise} > > L 3 The Text of Festival CD {Improvise, Comprise, Reprise} > > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II CD > > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > > L 4 Acid Daze Vol. III > > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. III LP > > L 4 The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind > > L 4 Night Riding > > L 4 The Hawkwind Collection LP > > L 4 Space Is Deep > > L 4 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) > > L 4 a Roadhawks > > L 4 a Stasis > > L 4 a (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > > L 4 a Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > > L 4 a Space Ritual Alive [remastered CD only] > > L 4 b Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > > L 5 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II {Watchfield > Festival} > > L 5 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] {Watchfield > Festival} > > L 5 Acid Daze Vol. II {Watchfield > Festival} > > L 6 Glastonbury 90 {Shouldn't Do That} > > L 7 Rock City > > L 8 The Business Trip {Do That} > > > > * Two versions of this on Text Of Festival > > The CD track is misnamed for another track on the album. > > * 2a is a cut of 2 > > * On 4-4b You Shouldn't Do That formed the 1st half of a segue > > with Seeing It As You Really Are as the encore to Space Ritual > Alive > > * 4 is the complete version plus intro > > * 4a is version 4 with a cut intro > > * 4b is version 4 with no intro > > * The Watchfield festival track is a jam starting with You > Shouldn't > > Do That > > * This occurs twice on the Anthology albums since it's also part > > of the track Watchfield Festival > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 29 05:48:50 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:48:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi In-Reply-To: Douglas Pearson's message of Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:54:23 -0500 Message-ID: Douglas Pearson writes: > I think it IS an interesting (if not necessarily important) argument to > make in an SF context since "What if?" frequently means "What do I want?" > or (equally importantly) "What do I NOT want?". Although perhaps this is a > good place to draw the line between "science fiction" and "speculative > fiction", since the latter category ("What do I NOT want?") seems to be > frequently employed by authors NOT of the science-fiction "genre" dabbling > in "science fiction"-like situations in order to make a political point. > > Cases in point: > '1984' (the obvious one!) - anti-communist/anti-fascist middle-bureaucrat > socialist author creates world where socialist government is entirely co- > opted by communist/fascist-type authoritarians who oppress middle- > bureaucrats. > 'The Turner Diaries' - rascist author creates world run by "degenerate > mullato" types who oppress those of "the master race". > 'The Handmaid's Tale' - feminist author creates world run by male- > supremacist fundamentalist christians who oppress women. > 'Atlas Shrugged' - ultra-capitalist/right-wing-libertarian creates world > where socialist governments have destroyed the economy and oppress > capitalist types (who are the only ones can get it up?!). I can add some more: "The Secret of the League" - ultra-capitalist tale of socialist government destroying late-Victorian economy of Britain and oppressing capitalist types who go on strike. Pallas - ultra-libertarian tale of escape to free society of a denizen of a socialist work camp, and his subsequent adventures there. The Probability Broach - tale of two parallel worlds, one a socialist and politically correct future US where the economy and ecology is in tatters and one future US where freedom reigns and gun-toting anarchocapitalists in league with intelligent dolphins drive the future forward. A cop from the former stumbles on a plot of socialists to invade and destroy the latter. The Enemy of the State - libertarian Robin Hood subverts a corporatist empire strangling the galaxy. Mirror Maze - the plot to assassinate the first libertarian US President at his inauguration. IMHO Enemy of the State is the true classic in all of these (F.Paul Wilson). The Probability Broach is good, but Smith dodges the key question asked by the socialist plotters: "If it's a free society which permits ownership and use of weapons, then why shouldn't we be permitted free immigration with a nuclear weapon of our choice?". Best short story in this category is far and away "The Ungoverned" by Vernor Vinge: a story of a future free country invaded by the statist one to the south (Texas and Mexico I suspect - though the future is so different it doesn't matter). The statists are perplexed when informed by a local copco that there's no central authority which can surrender on behalf of everyone and annoyed when a farmer nukes the tanks crossing his land without permission. On remonstrating with the captured cop about this: "Hell, don't blame me. He's not one of my customers." And of course I must plug Ken Macleod's "Norlonto" in "The Star Fraction". In a future UK where every political movement has carved out its own ministate, North London Town is the place where the libertarian Space and Freedom Party plot their role in the next republican socialist revolution. Smart Drugs, Smart Guns and Smart Women. > Perhaps because "true" SF authors are more steeped in > considering "alternative realities", they're able to do so in a more (not > necessarily objective) subtle(?), non-encompassing(?) manner (groping for a > description here, sorry). Or, it could just be that to them, the main > point is telling a story, not "making a point". As with Ken, sometimes it's both and sometimes it's just to play around with the ideas. FoFP From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Mar 29 05:52:29 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:52:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: I signed that petition thing ages ago!! You sent me a mail to say "Cheers for signing my petition" Then it never appeared on the page!!!!!! I'll sign it again though. And get everyone I can think of too as well. Cheers, Layla. (I'm dying for a drink.......some.....erm......ohh........I just fancy a bottle of Bud actually.......ummmmmmm....) >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/28/01 07:59pm >>> We need lots a more names on my petition It is being noticed...... You'r a feisty little chickadee huh!! ((Head are gonna roll)) Mb (Mister NagWind) ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 4:09 AM Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > Cause when I was younger they never played anywhere near me. > When I got old enough to travel places, I've never had the opportunity nor the cash. > > Now I've got the cash, and the time!!! (sometimes). I can't wait for the Lake district festival!!! If it doesn't happen, heads are gonna roll!!! > > Layla. > > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/28/01 07:07pm >>> > why on earth not my dear?? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Layla Thompson > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 11:11 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? > > > > i haven't been to a Hawkwind concert in 18 years!!!! > > > > > > (IE: I've never been to one!!) > > > > poor ol' me. > > > > Layla > > > > >>> nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK 03/28/01 01:58pm >>> > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:13:58 +0100, Sam Kirwan > > wrote: > > > > >What's the longest time anyone's > > >gone between HW gigs I wonder. > > > > Errrmmm... 10 years in my case. > > > > Terrible but true. Used to see them regularly in the '80s, Hammersmith > > Odeon '89 being the last time... then didn't see 'em again until Croydon > > '99. > > > > Why? Thought they were washed up- didn't rate Xenon Codex or Space > Bandits, > > in fact I was greatly saddened by Space Bandits- I just thought, well, the > > best band in the world have finally lost it, and I preferred to let my > Hawk- > > appreciation rest in peace. > > > > It was years before I finally heard some of the 90's material and realised > > they were still doing the business. > > > > I still don't particularly like either of the above albums although they > > don't upset me as much as they once did! Other people love them, I know, > > but there you go. > > > > Three gigs in the last 5 months have gone some way to making up for this > > appalling lapse. > From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 29 06:41:59 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:41:59 -0500 Subject: HW: Careful use of the saxophone Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:12:03 +0100, Mark Jermy wrote: >Hi folks, >a question for those who've seen Jez Huggett on stage with HW: what do you >think of the way he plays the sax? I think he's great. Just to be contrary, I think he plays far more 'musically' than Nik. Of course we all love good ole Uncle Nik, but on the 2 occasions I've seen Mr Huggett I thought he added an extra dimension that Nik wouldn't have done. 'Angels Of Death' and 'Hassan I sabbah' are now at their best ever IMHO. Also liked his playing on 'Hurry On Sundown'- made the riff go with a bit more swing. Don't know if he plays flute but he certainly plays clarinet on Hassan. As for his 'look'- does it matter?? He looks like a cool jazzman, nothing wrong with that. I think he played with Ian Dury and the Blockheads before, and they were a fantastic live band by all accounts. Personally I hope he'll be in the live HW line-up for some time to come. Cheers Nick From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 29 06:46:13 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:46:13 -0500 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:54:23 -0500, Douglas Pearson wrote: [snip some interesting obsevations on dystopian fiction] >For example - back to Moorcock - one can certainly see anti-royalist and >anti-militarist sentiments at the heart of the Elric and Jerry Cornelius >series', respectively. But those political viewpoints are nowhere near the >main focus of any of those stories (or so it strikes me). Have you read 'The Rituals Of Infinity'? That's one Moorcock book where the political message seems heavy-handed to me, rather overwhelms the actual story. From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Thu Mar 29 06:39:42 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:39:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: >Bill said: From September 1958 to March 29, 2001 > A time machine they may have. Already Hawkwind's possessions are: >1) An anti-radiation machine >2) Needle Gun >3) Orgone Accumulator >4) Nuclear Drive >5) Robot >6) Silver Machine >and of course the Mothership (long may she fly) Yes, but orgone accumulators have been around since the 30s, you can build one yourself http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/woorgone.htm . And Silver Machine is a bicycle http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/calquo.htm#silver . Scumsucking robots are taking over California! (For $500 you can buy a robot that cleans your swimming pool). Cheers, Mark From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Mar 29 06:44:08 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 05:44:08 -0600 Subject: A Question r Message-ID: ISNT THAT A NIK TURNER TUNE? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Bill & Cynthia [mailto:freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 12:54 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: A Question r I've been meaning for a while to ask whether Hawkwind has ever done this song - "The Weighing of the Heart and Negative Confession?" I found it on Napster and downloaded it. It certainly sounds like HW. It goes BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA.... Can anyone tell me anything about it. Cheers Bill From chrisr at TIAC.NET Thu Mar 29 08:36:10 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:36:10 -0500 Subject: NIK: Dark Sun Ice Ritual/ Scandinavian Space Message-ID: I just received Dark Sun - Ice Ritual with Nik Turner on some of the tracks. This is alive CD of Hawkwind songs. Excellent sound quality and good music. The best part of it for me was the bonus studio track. It is about 9.5 minutes long and it really good. The price was right too, $14.00 including shipping! I look forward to more Dark Sun in the future. To venture further off topic, is there anything new from Pseudo Sun? Stll have my fingers crossed that eventually DarXtar's Tombola or whatever the new album was called will be released someday. I also hope that the Spacious Mind - Mind of a Brother did well enough that they will put out a new one as well! Chris From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Mar 29 08:54:40 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:54:40 -0500 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: <200103282241.RAA03796@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Grakkl (FAA) wrote: > the local grocery store chain (Kroger's) that I've shopped at > for years suddenly introduced this ridiculous "Plus Card" (tm) that appears > to save you money and make it seem like they think you're important to their > business. > P.S. Have these things gone nationwide? Worldwide? They should be banned > quicker than human cloning! :) Oh, now you've done it. ;-) They've had them here in Rochester, NY for 2 or 3 years. I totally agree with you. Of course, in a metro area of about 1 million people, Rochester has only 2 major supermarket chains. One is Wegmans (which is based here and probably has 70% of the market), and the other is Topps which is a chain out of Buffalo. They both have the cards. Other results of this duopoly are that many poor city residents aren't served by a supermarket *at all*. Unfortunately, the company that's coming in to "help" these people is Wal-Mart, who are opening a superstore with a complete grocery in a part of the city not served by Wegmans or Topps. Speaking of Wal-Mart and their ilk, on we go to another dilemma. Stores and plazas are being built everywhere, all the time, yet the population of the area is stagnant. We're basically creating a landscape of deserted Wal-Marts and Home Depots that shift from section to section of the ever-increasing sprawl. And I bet a lot of the other cities in the Northeast are the same way. One more thing about the cards. Sure, they save you money but they also entice you to buy things you wouldn't have even thought about buying otherwise, or in larger quantities than you normally would. So, in a way, there also contributing to America's weight problem. :-) Ah, that felt good. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Thu Mar 29 08:56:18 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:56:18 +0200 Subject: HW: Careful use of the saxophone In-Reply-To: <200103291141.GAA12368@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi, >I think he's great. Just to be contrary, I think he plays far more >'musically' than Nik. Of course we all love good ole Uncle Nik, but on the >2 occasions I've seen Mr Huggett I thought he added an extra dimension that >Nik wouldn't have done. 'Angels Of Death' and 'Hassan I sabbah' are now at >their best ever IMHO. Also liked his playing on 'Hurry On Sundown'- made >the riff go with a bit more swing. Totally ACK! >Don't know if he plays flute but he certainly plays clarinet on Hassan. He definitely does. He played a nice (improvised?) part during Free Fall at the Astoria gig. >As for his 'look'- does it matter?? Nope. HW isn't a shitty boyband. Look is totally irrelevant, only the music is of importance! >Personally I hope he'll be in the live HW line-up for some time to come. I hope that, too. I also hope that the current line-up (are Simon & Alan back for good, or "just" permanent guests?), which is fabulous and the best in years, will start recording a studio album. If they put as much energy and effort into it as they put into the last gigs, it will be real masterpiece. (c)IAO D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Mar 29 09:03:33 2001 From: buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM (Rus Hall) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:03:33 -0500 Subject: BOC: Rhino Handmade Message-ID: Has any gotten their handmade CDs from Rhino yet? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Thu Mar 29 09:02:24 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:02:24 +0100 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices Message-ID: They've all got loyalty cards over here and for pretty much the same reasons. Best thing is to mess them up as much as possible. At least 4 people use my card every week - Supermarket must think I'm feeding the British Army and every few months when they send me vouchers I spunk 'em all on Brandy. An alcoholic feeding the British Army!! I think it's quite amusing the way these large companies spend bucket loads on marketing and promotions - have you seen the adverts - they are learning nothing!!!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Brian Halligan [mailto:blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM] Sent: 29 March 2001 14:55 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices Grakkl (FAA) wrote: > the local grocery store chain (Kroger's) that I've shopped at > for years suddenly introduced this ridiculous "Plus Card" (tm) that appears > to save you money and make it seem like they think you're important to their > business. > P.S. Have these things gone nationwide? Worldwide? They should be banned > quicker than human cloning! :) Oh, now you've done it. ;-) They've had them here in Rochester, NY for 2 or 3 years. I totally agree with you. Of course, in a metro area of about 1 million people, Rochester has only 2 major supermarket chains. One is Wegmans (which is based here and probably has 70% of the market), and the other is Topps which is a chain out of Buffalo. They both have the cards. Other results of this duopoly are that many poor city residents aren't served by a supermarket *at all*. Unfortunately, the company that's coming in to "help" these people is Wal-Mart, who are opening a superstore with a complete grocery in a part of the city not served by Wegmans or Topps. Speaking of Wal-Mart and their ilk, on we go to another dilemma. Stores and plazas are being built everywhere, all the time, yet the population of the area is stagnant. We're basically creating a landscape of deserted Wal-Marts and Home Depots that shift from section to section of the ever-increasing sprawl. And I bet a lot of the other cities in the Northeast are the same way. One more thing about the cards. Sure, they save you money but they also entice you to buy things you wouldn't have even thought about buying otherwise, or in larger quantities than you normally would. So, in a way, there also contributing to America's weight problem. :-) Ah, that felt good. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Thu Mar 29 09:22:36 2001 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:22:36 -0800 Subject: NIK,OFF: Dark Sun Ice Ritual/ Scandinavian Space Message-ID: I've got to get that new Dark Sun CD. Loved _Feed Your Mind_. Do they have any other releases? Same question for Darxtar & Pseudo Sun. I have the 4 Darxtar CDs (is the Hawxtar CD still available anywhere?), and _Future Memoirs_ by Pseudo Sun - am I missing anything else? I seem to recall some cassette released by PS... What other Spacious Mind CDs are available? (I know they put out a few LP-only releases.) I have _Mind of a Brother_ and _Cosmic Minds at Play_. Anyone have anything good to say about _A New & Exact Map_, the latest from Subarachnoid Space? BTW, I want to thank everyone here who turned me on to Bevis Frond. I now have _Vavona Burr_, _North Circular_, and _Live at GAMH_. All really great and highly recommended - especially VB. Looking forward to the US reissues of BF's earlier stuff. MWood NP: _Inside_ - Eloy (remastered!) >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:36:10 -0500 >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >From: Chris Raymond >Subject: NIK: Dark Sun Ice Ritual/ Scandinavian Space >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >I just received Dark Sun - Ice Ritual with Nik Turner on some of the >tracks. This is alive CD of Hawkwind songs. Excellent sound quality and >good music. The best part of it for me was the bonus studio track. It is >about 9.5 minutes long and it really good. The price was right too, >$14.00 including shipping! I look forward to more Dark Sun in the >future. > >To venture further off topic, is there anything new from Pseudo Sun? >Stll have my fingers crossed that eventually DarXtar's Tombola or >whatever the new album was called will be released someday. >I also hope that the Spacious Mind - Mind of a Brother did well enough >that they will put out a new one as well! >Chris ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From nexus at PANIX.COM Thu Mar 29 09:23:22 2001 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:23:22 -0500 Subject: BOC: Rhino Handmade In-Reply-To: from "Rus Hall" at Mar 29, 2001 09:03:33 AM Message-ID: >Has any gotten their handmade CDs from Rhino yet? Not I. JB >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Mar 29 09:26:39 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:26:39 -0600 Subject: Rhino Handmade Message-ID: Which one's are they??????? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Rus Hall [mailto:buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 8:04 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: BOC: Rhino Handmade Has any gotten their handmade CDs from Rhino yet? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 29 09:40:48 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:10:48 +0930 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven Message-ID: You have a museum? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 7:53 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven > Bob Lennon writes: > > > In a message dated 3/28/01 5:32:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > > > > > Bob Lennon writes: > > > > > > > > > Mike Coleman wishes to express that his hard drive has been > > > > > > removed > > > > > > > > Weren't all the platters working? > > > > > > > uh, what's a platter? > > > > > > Before your time. > > > > > > FoFP > > > o.k. I believe you, but when was before my time, and what's a platter? > > (unless it's of course something simple like the thing you get for dinner or > > something...) > > Hard disks used to be composed of a number of layers known as "platters" > which were read independently by multiple heads. Hie thee to a tech > museum and have a look. Or pop into my office. I have one under the desk > here. > > FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 29 09:50:47 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:20:47 +0930 Subject: OFF alien dream Message-ID: Hi there Star warriors & Galactic Nomads of The Time Streams Just wanted to let you know that my CD has been officially released and is currently available thru CD Services http://www.cd-services.com It has been reviewed as "Superb Instrumental Space-Rock/Psych" The CD is comprised of 11 tracks totaling 52 mintues of instrumental Spaced Rock.... If you are curious there is a small sample mp3 download follow this link: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Alien_Dream/Alien_Dream_Index.htm as well as a link for a free mp3 player for you computer ((win amp)) Hope you like!!! Michael "Alien Dream" Blackman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Mar 29 10:06:47 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:06:47 GMT Subject: BOC: Stalk Forrest Shipping Date Message-ID: > > no one should have received their copy of the Stalk Forrest Group disc yet > because the shipping date is 18 April 2001, according to the website. > > our days are numbered (after all, we do use a calendar) > Jason > --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From chrisr at TIAC.NET Thu Mar 29 10:48:43 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:48:43 -0500 Subject: NIK,OFF: Dark Sun Ice Ritual/ Scandinavian Space Message-ID: Aural Innovations has the Dark Sun for $14.00 shipping included. As far as Pseudo Sun, I have a CDr that was put out called Captains Log. I think it is one person on the Cd and not a band effort, but great space twiddling any way. Spacious Mind has a few out Organic Mind Solution - Cosmic Minds at Play are a couple on CD. I am not at home so I don't remember all of them. I have some on cassette Sailing the Seagaoat?? and Butterflys and??? Bevis Frond has a great wealth of material. Did you see them in Boston a year or 2 ago. They toured when that live album came out. It was very strange. It was at TT and the Bears and there were 3 backup bands. The whole audience it seemed was the backup bands members and friends. There were not hundreds of Bevis fans there! It was great to talk to Nick Soloman of Bevis and (Outskirts of Infinity) and Adrian Shaw formerly of Hawkwind. It was a night to remember. Nick Soloman bending guitar strings about 2.5 feet from where I was standing. Chris Marshall Wood wrote: > I've got to get that new Dark Sun CD. Loved _Feed Your Mind_. Do > they have any other releases? > > Same question for Darxtar & Pseudo Sun. I have the 4 Darxtar CDs (is > the Hawxtar CD still available anywhere?), and _Future Memoirs_ by > Pseudo Sun - am I missing anything else? I seem to recall some > cassette released by PS... > > What other Spacious Mind CDs are available? (I know they put out a > few LP-only releases.) I have _Mind of a Brother_ and _Cosmic Minds > at Play_. > > Anyone have anything good to say about _A New & Exact Map_, the > latest from Subarachnoid Space? > > BTW, I want to thank everyone here who turned me on to Bevis Frond. > I now have _Vavona Burr_, _North Circular_, and _Live at GAMH_. > All really great and highly recommended - especially VB. Looking > forward to the US reissues of BF's earlier stuff. > > MWood > > NP: _Inside_ - Eloy (remastered!) > > >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:36:10 -0500 > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >From: Chris Raymond > >Subject: NIK: Dark Sun Ice Ritual/ Scandinavian Space > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > >I just received Dark Sun - Ice Ritual with Nik Turner on some of the > >tracks. This is alive CD of Hawkwind songs. Excellent sound quality and > >good music. The best part of it for me was the bonus studio track. It is > >about 9.5 minutes long and it really good. The price was right too, > >$14.00 including shipping! I look forward to more Dark Sun in the > >future. > > > >To venture further off topic, is there anything new from Pseudo Sun? > >Stll have my fingers crossed that eventually DarXtar's Tombola or > >whatever the new album was called will be released someday. > >I also hope that the Spacious Mind - Mind of a Brother did well enough > >that they will put out a new one as well! > >Chris > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- > http://www.deja.com/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Mar 29 10:53:54 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:53:54 -0500 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven In-Reply-To: <200103291023.LAA14479@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, M Holmes wrote: => Hard disks used to be composed of a number of layers known as "platters" => which were read independently by multiple heads. Hie thee to a tech => museum and have a look. Or pop into my office. I have one under the desk => here. Hard disks are still like that. Take a screwdriver to one if you don't believe me. :-) You are probably thinking of the ol' removable hard disks, wherein you would load a large, bulky disk pack into your equally large, bulky, noisy drive unit to get a pitifully small amount of disk space by today's standards. They're good for working the upper body, though. :-) Someone made me a wall clock made out of a disk platter out of a unit that'd suffered a head crash. The platter even cooperated to the point of having the surface gouging roughly outside where the clock numerals go, making a nice border. Yes, I know: geek chic. :-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 29 11:09:07 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:09:07 -0500 Subject: HW: Careful use of the saxophone Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:56:18 +0200, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: >>Don't know if he plays flute but he certainly plays clarinet on Hassan. > >He definitely does. He played a nice (improvised?) part during Free Fall at >the Astoria gig. Did he? Can't remember that.. trying hard to visualise the scene... no it's gone. Post-gig amnesia: common problem I find. > >>As for his 'look'- does it matter?? > >Nope. >HW isn't a shitty boyband. No it's more of an old-geezerband! >I also hope that the current line-up (are Simon & Alan back for good, or >"just" permanent guests?), which is fabulous and the best in years, will >start recording a studio album. If they put as much energy and effort into >it as they put into the last gigs, it will be real masterpiece. Absolutely spot on. Lock the boys (sorry geezers) in the studio when these gigs have finished, and don't let them out until a prime 2001 Space Rock odyssey masterpiece has been completed. (Nourishment breaks to be allowed at a rate of, say, one meal per riff. I am a reasonable man and wouldn't want them to suffer.) On a more serious note, is there any news on the Astoria live release? Cos that would do very nicely to be going on with. Anyone? From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Mar 29 11:09:19 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:09:19 -0500 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Brian Halligan wrote: => One more thing about the cards. Sure, they save you money but they also => entice you to buy things you wouldn't have even thought about buying => otherwise, or in larger quantities than you normally would. So, in a way, => there also contributing to America's weight problem. :-) But shops are designed to make you buy things you wouldn't have thought about buying otherwise. The cards are no different in that respect to coupons, store promotions, buy-one-get-one-free, and all those other enticements to purchase things you maybe shouldn't. (In fact, these cards may actually discourage some people from buying because the item is blighted by the Evil Mark Of The Card[TM].) Because we are all intelligent and discriminating Hawkwind or BOC fans on here, I would assume we all would utilise that inherent superiority and would carefully weight up whether or not an item was in fact what is known in some circles as "a bargain" before purchasing it. ;-) ("I didn't want to buy that, Honey. The CARD made me do it!";) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From bart at ENGAGE.NU Thu Mar 29 11:32:26 2001 From: bart at ENGAGE.NU (Bart Brugmans) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:32:26 +0200 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: -- please distribute this eMail widely -- SAVE THE CLIMATE TREATY ! FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! >Stop President Bush from betraying the UN climate change treaty! Last year the US blocked progress at negotiations in The Netherlands, now Texas oil-man President George W. Bush wants to destroy the Kyoto Protocol on climate change. Friends of the Earth asks people around the world to electronically flood the White House with protest E-mails. Let?s give President Bush a taste of what climate change means and how much people are concerned about it. ========================= Please cut and paste the message below into a new E-mail and send it to: PRESIDENT BUSH: president at whitehouse.gov Please CC to: protest at foeeurope.org or go to http://www.foeeurope.org/climate ========================= Dear President Bush, I call on you as President of the USA not to betray the Kyoto Protocol. The United States must live up to its commitment to the UN negotiations to prevent global warming. Sabotaging the Kyoto Protocol puts the USA into a position of environmental isolationism and makes it responsible for climate catastrophe. The US has the highest per capita CO2 emissions in the world. People around the world already faced with the first signs of climate change, suffering from floods and hurricanes, expect your country to be in the forefront of tackling climate change. An enormous potential of creativity, innovation and efficiency is there to be harvested once we have decided to really reduce CO2 emission. If you fail to reverse your decision to kill the Kyoto Protocol, future generations will not forgive you. President Bush, the science is proven and the international political will is there to tackle climate change. The US must join the world in tackling climate change. Sincerely, X ===================== Background: - Bush's campaign for presidency was backed and financed by major US oil giants, which campaigned against the international treaty to prevent global warming. - The US promised to cut their climate changing gases by 7% over 1990 levels before 2012 at the latest, but US emissions in fact rose by more than 10% between 1990 and 2000. - A White House spokesman said: "The president has been unequivocal. He does not support the Kyoto treaty." The Swedish Environment Minister described the move as ?appalling and provocative?. For more information visit http://www.foeeurope.org/climate or e-mail protest at foeeurope.org The Climate Team @ Friends of the Earth -- Email President Bush ! - Save the Climate Treaty ! | "Sometimes good guys don't wear white!" | | Visit the Climate IMC: http://www.climateconference.org | | ENGAGE! Tactical Media | Bemuurde Weerd WZ3 NL-3513 BH Utrecht | tel: +31 (0)30 2387516 gsm: +31 (0)6 24798780 | fax: +31 (0)30 2387517 http://www.engage.nu From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Thu Mar 29 11:42:23 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:42:23 -0600 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: No offense, but Global Warming is fiction. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Brugmans" To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 10:32 AM Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! > -- please distribute this eMail widely -- > > SAVE THE CLIMATE TREATY ! > > FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! > > >Stop President Bush from betraying the UN climate change treaty! > > Last year the US blocked progress at negotiations in The Netherlands, > now > Texas oil-man President George W. Bush wants to destroy the Kyoto > Protocol > on climate change. > > Friends of the Earth asks people around the world to electronically > flood the White House with protest E-mails. > > Let's give President Bush a taste of what climate change means and > how > much people are concerned about it. > > ========================= > Please cut and paste the message below into a new E-mail and send it > to: > > PRESIDENT BUSH: > president at whitehouse.gov > Please CC to: protest at foeeurope.org > or go to http://www.foeeurope.org/climate > ========================= > > Dear President Bush, > > I call on you as President of the USA not to betray the Kyoto > Protocol. > > The United States must live up to its commitment to the UN > negotiations to > prevent global warming. Sabotaging the Kyoto Protocol puts the USA > into a > position of environmental isolationism and makes it responsible for > climate catastrophe. > > The US has the highest per capita CO2 emissions in the world. People > around the world already faced with the first signs of climate > change, > suffering from floods and hurricanes, expect your country to be in > the > forefront of tackling climate change. > > An enormous potential of creativity, innovation and efficiency is > there to > be harvested once we have decided to really reduce CO2 emission. If > you > fail to reverse your decision to kill the Kyoto Protocol, future > generations will not forgive you. > > President Bush, the science is proven and the international political > will > is there to tackle climate change. The US must join the world in > tackling > climate change. > > Sincerely, > X > > ===================== > > Background: > > - Bush's campaign for presidency was backed and financed by major US > oil > > giants, which campaigned against the international treaty to prevent > global warming. > > - The US promised to cut their climate changing gases by 7% over 1990 > levels before 2012 at the latest, but US emissions in fact rose by > more > than 10% between 1990 and 2000. > > - A White House spokesman said: "The president has been unequivocal. > He > does not support the Kyoto treaty." The Swedish Environment Minister > described the move as "appalling and provocative". > > For more information visit http://www.foeeurope.org/climate > or e-mail protest at foeeurope.org > > The Climate Team @ Friends of the Earth > -- > Email President Bush ! - Save the Climate Treaty ! > > | "Sometimes good guys don't wear white!" > | > | Visit the Climate IMC: http://www.climateconference.org > | > | ENGAGE! Tactical Media > | Bemuurde Weerd WZ3 NL-3513 BH Utrecht > | tel: +31 (0)30 2387516 gsm: +31 (0)6 24798780 > | fax: +31 (0)30 2387517 http://www.engage.nu > From bart at ENGAGE.NU Thu Mar 29 11:40:25 2001 From: bart at ENGAGE.NU (Bart Brugmans) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:40:25 +0200 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: <005001c0b86f$3aec01c0$860ee03f@m8v3c0> Message-ID: On 29 Mar 2001, at 10:42, Dan Witt wrote: > No offense, but Global Warming is fiction. Yes, u do offend me. but, hey keep yr eyes closed and kill the Third World (cause they suffer most from climate change!) --BArt From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Mar 29 11:41:09 2001 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:41:09 +0200 Subject: NIK,OFF: Dark Sun Ice Ritual/ Scandinavian Space Message-ID: Marshall Wood wrote: > Same question for Darxtar & Pseudo Sun. I have the 4 Darxtar CDs (is > the Hawxtar CD still available anywhere?), and _Future Memoirs_ by > Pseudo Sun - am I missing anything else? I seem to recall some > cassette released by PS... The Pseudo Sun cassette is called "Aliens only", released in 98 on Mick Magic?s Music & Elsewhere label. 5 tracks, 40 min. A 2nd CD was recorded in 98 called "Atomic dogs don?t bark". Sadly the band didn?t find a label to release it. It?s a bloody good recording in fabulous sound quality with 6 songs including my favourite tunes "Mutiny" and "Signs of Life". Apart from that PS are pretty active doing gigs mostly in Sweden, appeared at last year?s HW fest in Hamburg and did a short tour with Nik T exactly 1 year ago. Andreas (a Pseudo Sun fan) From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Mar 29 11:41:08 2001 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:41:08 +0200 Subject: HW: Sonic Attack Message-ID: K Henderson wrote: > P.S. Why does this Japanese Live '79 have 15 tracks? Is this another > version of the Levitation/Live '79 package? I've got one of those, but it's > two CD's in a double-wide carrier. (And I would've thought that would be a > few more than 15 tracks anyway.) It?s indeed another Levitation/Live `79 version, a single CD (75 min) omitting Motorway City (the live version). Andreas From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Mar 29 11:51:12 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:51:12 EST Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven & his platter Message-ID: In a message dated 3/29/01 5:23:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > Bob Lennon writes: > > > In a message dated 3/28/01 5:32:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > > > > > Bob Lennon writes: > > > > > > > > > Mike Coleman wishes to express that his hard drive has been > > > > > > removed > > > > > > > > Weren't all the platters working? > > > > > > > uh, what's a platter? > > > > > > Before your time. > > > > > > FoFP > > > o.k. I believe you, but when was before my time, and what's a platter? > > (unless it's of course something simple like the thing you get for dinner > or > > something...) > > Hard disks used to be composed of a number of layers known as "platters" > which were read independently by multiple heads. Hie thee to a tech > museum and have a look. Or pop into my office. I have one under the desk > here. > > FoFP well thanks muchly for the info. that must have been way before my time. I only started using computer in the 70's ....on the tail end of using punch cards and right before I used cassette tapes for storing files. I am not at all nostalgic for those days. of course I never pulled the things apart so it could have been one year ago and I wouldn't have known the difference. bob From kruch7 at HOME.COM Thu Mar 29 11:46:31 2001 From: kruch7 at HOME.COM (Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:46:31 -0500 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: not believing in global; warming is like not believing in fairies or elves. , how can you be offended when some one doesn't believe in some thing that is made up? ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Brugmans" > > Yes, u do offend me. > > but, hey keep yr eyes closed and kill the Third World > > (cause they suffer most from climate change!) > > --BArt From nexus at PANIX.COM Thu Mar 29 12:07:56 2001 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:07:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: from "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks" at Mar 29, 2001 11:46:31 AM Message-ID: >not believing in global; warming is like not believing in fairies or elves. >, how can you be offended when some one doesn't believe in some thing that >is made up? Citation please. >Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. Gygax is to gaming what Gates is to desktop OS. JB From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Mar 29 12:11:47 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:11:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: <005001c0b86f$3aec01c0$860ee03f@m8v3c0> Message-ID: In article <005001c0b86f$3aec01c0$860ee03f at m8v3c0>, Dan Witt writes >No offense, but Global Warming is fiction. That's been established beyond doubt, has it? -- Jon From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 29 12:20:55 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:20:55 +0100 Subject: Help on Urban Guerilla? Message-ID: There's a French CD called Urban Guerilla which is a rerelease of Yuri Gagarin. Does anyone know which label it's on? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 29 12:22:00 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:22:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven In-Reply-To: Michael W Blackman's message of Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:10:48 +0930 Message-ID: Michael W Blackman writes: > You have a museum? Yeah. I have an Apple IIe and several flavours of BBC micro in it. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 29 12:24:54 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:24:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Sonic Attack In-Reply-To: Andreas Stuewe's message of Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:41:08 +0200 Message-ID: Andreas Stuewe writes: > K Henderson wrote: > > > P.S. Why does this Japanese Live '79 have 15 tracks? Is this another > > version of the Levitation/Live '79 package? I've got one of those, but it's > > two CD's in a double-wide carrier. (And I would've thought that would be a > > few more than 15 tracks anyway.) > > It?s indeed another Levitation/Live `79 version, a single CD (75 min) omitting > Motorway City (the live version). Anyone know which label this is on? FoFP From kruch7 at HOME.COM Thu Mar 29 12:34:51 2001 From: kruch7 at HOME.COM (Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:34:51 -0500 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: I shall provide as much fact and proven evidence the global warming doesn't exist as you have that is does. there is no 100% all every one agrees fact on what global warming is or what causes it if indeed it exist, but if find some I will be more then happy to provide my sources Ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Berry" To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 12:07 PM Subject: Re: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! > >not believing in global; warming is like not believing in fairies or elves. > >, how can you be offended when some one doesn't believe in some thing that > >is made up? > > Citation please. > > >Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. > > Gygax is to gaming what Gates is to desktop OS. > > JB From kruch7 at HOME.COM Thu Mar 29 12:36:05 2001 From: kruch7 at HOME.COM (Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:36:05 -0500 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: as much as the fact that global warming does exist and that industrial nation are the cause of it, and that is isn't a natural reoccurring phenomenon yes Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Browne" To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 12:11 PM Subject: Re: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! > In article <005001c0b86f$3aec01c0$860ee03f at m8v3c0>, Dan Witt > writes > >No offense, but Global Warming is fiction. > > That's been established beyond doubt, has it? > > -- > Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Mar 29 12:34:56 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:34:56 +0100 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Jon Browne wrote: > Not that it's got anything to do with anything, but did you know there > are actually 40 abandoned stations on the Tube? > > Like King William Street, which was closed over 100 years ago, which > still has posters on its wall but is only accessible down a manhole in > the basement of Regis House, with breathing gear coz the air's gone bad? I knew there were three at least, but I didn't know it was as many as forty... You come through two of them (Lords and Marylebone Road) on the way into Baker Street on the Metropolitan, they're not too difficult to spot although most of the platforms have been cleared out. And of course Everyone Knows there's one under Buck House to evacuate the Royals with in the case of son^H^H^Hnuclear attack. Honestguvplainasthernoseon- yerfaceinnitnah. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Mar 29 12:43:52 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:43:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury tales In-Reply-To: <001d01c0aa76$27dc8480$66f2893e@jds> Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Jill Strobridge wrote: > Things to do on a Sunday afternoon: > 1. Find out where Hernhill near Faversham is. Actually it > sounds amazingly civilized........ > > "Local Attractions > > Hernhill - The Local Village ... with a delightful 14th century > village pub (overlooking the green) serving a wide range of good > food, to suit all tastes, and for variety there are two more pubs > within 1.5 miles, both offering good food. " > > This sounds like fun after all 8-))) Actually, it must be said that the actual venue, if it still be open (which given it's a stately home most of the time with as far as I know no ungulates featured it should be I hope) is not actually so very close to Faversham either. It's about three-quarters of a mile or a mile of the way _back_ to Canterbury from Hernhill. So if you reach Hernhill you've probably gone too far, pubs or no pubs... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From nexus at PANIX.COM Thu Mar 29 12:46:55 2001 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:46:55 -0500 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: from "Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks" at Mar 29, 2001 12:34:51 PM Message-ID: >I shall provide as much fact and proven evidence the global warming doesn't >exist as you have that is does. there is no 100% all every one agrees fact >on what global warming is or what causes it if indeed it exist, but if find >some I will be more then happy to provide my sources >Ken http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/intro/hansen.08/ Your turn. JB From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Mar 29 12:47:08 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:47:08 +0100 Subject: HW: Codex - phew In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Andy Gilham wrote: > > I don't know what the situation is now but two or three years > > ago, Doug, as > > EBS, had the name of Hawkwind copyrighted - this means that > > no-one anywhere > > can repress anything without his permission, although I wondered > > at the time > > where Dave came into this, but that was a while back, but presumably still > > applies. > > As I understand it, Dave has the sole right to trade under the name > Hawkwind, having done so for practically his entire career. A fine > distinction, admittedly... Yes, but that isn't the whole story is it? There's also the matter of who actually owns the stuff. And we have to face the sad fact that though Hawkwind's management own EBS, the minute EBS get their hands on something, that's the last we see of it. Ethically it should be Hawkwind's management who own the material, at least in business terms. But when even the band have to go to another label than their own to actually get things released, well, something's up with that IMO. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 29 12:48:58 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:48:58 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD Message-ID: Quite a few years ago there was a triple CD box set released. Can anyone remember which 3 CDs were in this? FoFP From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Mar 29 12:52:46 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:52:46 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: Touchy!! Have to say that I am 100% on your side though. Anyone who truly thinks that global warming is fiction is either incredibly selfish, or incredibly stupid. Layla >>> bart at ENGAGE.NU 03/29/01 05:40pm >>> On 29 Mar 2001, at 10:42, Dan Witt wrote: > No offense, but Global Warming is fiction. Yes, u do offend me. but, hey keep yr eyes closed and kill the Third World (cause they suffer most from climate change!) --BArt From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Mar 29 13:15:22 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:15:22 +0100 Subject: HW / MotorHead / OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Richard Lockwood wrote: > Have just found another cover version of Motorhead to add to my growing > collection. This one by Lawnmower Deth. Quite remarkable! Are you aware of the Corduroy version? Also, in its way quite remarkable. Although the Lawnmower Deth one does sound more, well, true to the spirit of the original :-) Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Mar 29 13:38:04 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:38:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Anyone who truly thinks that global warming is fiction is either > incredibly selfish, or incredibly stupid. Or American. And this isn't a slag of Americans, it's just that Europeans get told it's a fact and that the Americans are bad, and Americans get told it's a European lie designed to hurt American competitiveness. It's certainly easy for Europeans to be holier-than-thou about cutting emissions, seeing as the UK shut down all its heavy industry in the Thatcher years, Germany shut down all the uneconomic (and highly polluting) stuff in the old East Germany, and France generates nearly all its power from nuclear (which is suddenly very green). Personally I suspect it's been exaggerated, as these things often are, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't take sensible measures to prevent it happening. Flooding the President with spam seems futile, though. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Mar 29 13:44:20 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:44:20 -0500 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Andy Gilham wrote: => that doesn't mean we shouldn't take sensible measures to prevent it => happening. Flooding the President with spam seems futile, though. I think the futility is especially true if people simply cut-n-paste the given message rather than someone writing his or her own. Forwarding a form letter will probably not strike any recipient as a strong indicator of commitment. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Mar 29 14:15:47 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:15:47 -0500 Subject: OFF: Brian Young please email me privately Message-ID: Thanks (sorry for using up group bandwidth) Mike -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "A truly great man never puts away the simplicity of a child. " --Chinese Proverb From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Mar 29 14:17:05 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:17:05 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD In-Reply-To: <200103291748.SAA15487@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: 'Hawkwind - 3 Originals' (Castle CLA BX 911) CONTAINS 'Live 79' 'Levitation' and 'Space Bandits' Is that the one? KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 10:49 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Hawkwind triple CD Quite a few years ago there was a triple CD box set released. Can anyone remember which 3 CDs were in this? FoFP From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Mar 29 14:20:06 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:20:06 -0500 Subject: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc In-Reply-To: <008201c0b860$aff341e0$b0cb223f@michaelangelo68>; from michaelangelo68@OZEMAIL.COM.AU on Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 12:28:16AM +0930 Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 12:28:16AM +0930, Michael W Blackman wrote: > Since my return from the Hawkestra Concert last October I have dabbled over the idea for an official > BOC/Hawkwind discussion list badge that can be worn to all pre concert gatherings etc We did T-shirts several years ago. Maybe it's time for another run? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Mar 29 14:42:24 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:42:24 -0500 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:22:00 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >Michael W Blackman writes: > >> You have a museum? > >Yeah. I have an Apple IIe ... Got one of those in the back of my closet still ... -Doug (who bought his first computer since then less than a year ago) ceres at sirius.com From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Thu Mar 29 14:44:23 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:44:23 -0700 Subject: HW: Careful use of the saxophone In-Reply-To: <200103291609.LAA14408@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > >>As for his 'look'- does it matter?? At the Astoria while Jez H. was standing in the wings, waiting to come on, he stood so still that from my perspective in the balcony I thought he was one of Ron's props Definitely the other Mark L From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Mar 29 14:50:00 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:50:00 EST Subject: HW: A Question r Message-ID: In a message dated 3/29/01 12:40:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU writes: > Thanks Denis, > I'll have to look out for that one. > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denis Regenbrecht" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 4:18 PM > Subject: Re: HW: A Question r > > > > Hi, > > > > >I've been meaning for a while to ask whether Hawkwind has ever done this > > >song - "The Weighing of the Heart and Negative Confession?" > > >I found it on Napster and downloaded it. It certainly sounds like HW. > > >It goes BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA.... > > >Can anyone tell me anything about it. > > > > It's not a "real" HW-song, but a Nik Turner-solo. It can be found on Nik's > > "Sphynx" CD. > > I'd guess the reason that this turned up under the name "Hawkwind" is because it was included on Cleopatra's HW comp CD "Lord of Light" (labeled as a remix from the "Sphynx" version, though I never noticed the difference...) It also has a couple Lockheed tunes on it. Chuck From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Thu Mar 29 15:01:42 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:01:42 -0600 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 11:52 AM Subject: Re: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! > > Anyone who truly thinks that global warming is fiction is either incredibly selfish, or incredibly stupid. > > Oh, well I'm not too selfish. But I do tend to be a moron. And I'll be so happy when the earth is a desert. Or is it dessert? I aint smart enuf to know which is right. I'm pert near ignarnt enuf to not be offended when someone dissergrees with me two. Start's to remind me though of Uncle Sam's on Mars. I really like that song. Also a valid song dealing with the dangers of pollution. I think we've really turned the corner on conservation and pollution issues, thankfully. Too, Pollution is not the same as global warming. However, global warming is a dangerous scheme. If you believe in it, fine. And if you like, blast ol' G.W. with a form email. From joe.e at TELIA.COM Thu Mar 29 14:59:11 2001 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:59:11 +0200 Subject: Help on Urban Guerilla? Message-ID: At 18:20 2001-03-29 +0100, you wrote: >There's a French CD called Urban Guerilla which is a rerelease of Yuri >Gagarin. Does anyone know which label it's on? > >FoFP #18 in the series Les G?nies du Rock: Urban Guerilla ?ditions Atlas RK CD 418. Came as far as I understand with a magazine entitled as just "?ditions Atlas", but I might have misunderstood things. .joe From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Mar 29 14:58:19 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:58:19 EST Subject: OFF: The Spacious Mind Message-ID: In a message dated 3/29/01 7:49:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, chrisr at TIAC.NET writes: > Spacious Mind has a few out Organic Mind Solution - Cosmic Minds at Play are > a couple on CD. I am not at home so I don't remember all of them. I have > some > on cassette Sailing the Seagaoat?? and Butterflys and??? > Lessee... Cosmic Minds at Play CD (Garageland), Organic Mind Solution CD (Garageland), Sleepy Eyes and Butterflies double LP (Wild Places; half of which is directly from CMaP) , Sailing the Seagoat CD (Garageland), Mind of a Brother CD (Delerium)... did i forget anything? That's what I have anyway... Organic Mind Solution is the best, IMO, always accompanies me to the station in case of interplanetary emergencies... Chuck NP: Mind of a Brother From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Mar 29 15:03:31 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:03:31 -0500 Subject: OFF: The Spacious Mind Message-ID: >In a message dated 3/29/01 7:49:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, chrisr at TIAC.NET >writes: > >> Spacious Mind has a few out Organic Mind Solution - Cosmic Minds at Play are >> a couple on CD. I am not at home so I don't remember all of them. I have >> some >> on cassette Sailing the Seagaoat?? and Butterflys and??? >> > >Lessee... Cosmic Minds at Play CD (Garageland), Organic Mind Solution CD >(Garageland), Sleepy Eyes and Butterflies double LP (Wild Places; half of >which is directly from CMaP) non-Welsh Man?>, Sailing the Seagoat CD (Garageland), Mind of a Brother CD >(Delerium)... > >did i forget anything? That's what I have anyway... Organic Mind Solution is >the best, IMO, always accompanies me to the station in case of interplanetary >emergencies... "Garden of a Well-fed Hed" or something like that. I think it's a live LP on Lone Starfighter (Texas), but am not exactly sure. From what I remember from hearing it once, it's fantastic. I thought there was supposed to be a CD release, but haven't seen it out yet. I'd rather wait, if in fact it does appear. Chameleon and Holy River Family Band are related, and I think there's one more act from that family, can't remember the name. Grakkl (FAA) From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Mar 29 15:23:03 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:23:03 EST Subject: OFF: The Spacious Mind Message-ID: In a message dated 3/29/01 12:15:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > "Garden of a Well-fed Hed" or something like that. I think it's a live LP > on Lone Starfighter (Texas), but am not exactly sure. From what I remember > from hearing it once, it's fantastic. I thought there was supposed to be a > CD release, but haven't seen it out yet. I'd rather wait, if in fact it > does appear. > > Chameleon and Holy River Family Band are related, and I think there's one > more act from that family, can't remember the name. > > Grakkl is it Cauldron? Never heard any. I tasted your HRFB double-disc last summer, but just wasn't sure. Haida Deities has its moments, though. Chuck From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Mar 29 15:19:43 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:19:43 -0500 Subject: OFF: Igra Staklenih Perli Message-ID: Hi Folks... I've just been reading up about this interesting-sounding band that I'd never heard of before. I imagine that *someone* here has heard them, so I'd like to know if it's worth checking into. The S/T LP does go for about $80-95 according to the two mentions on gemm.com, so I'm not intersted in that! Elsewehere, the CD was listed as being a bootleg, and I guess that's the one mentioned here (below) also. Does anyone have it? If it's not considered amoral, I would consider trading for a CD-R with a CD-R of similar out-of-print-ness. Grakkl (FAA) Igra Staklenih Perli [Yugoslavia] Igra Staklenih Perli (79), Vrt Svetlosti (80), Inner Flow (9?, recorded '75), Soft Explosion Live (9?,recorded '78), Drives (9?, recorded '78) This band was from Zagreb and this was part of Yugoslavia when they recorded their LPs. Igra Staklenih Perli (79) is a real collectors item here in Europe, and you have to pay some $100 if you find a mint copy of it. But it's worth that! They made some Psych-Prog stuff, maybe like Hawkwind, but much more intense and with better vocals (somewhere i read they have trippy guitars and a spacy organ!). There is also a bit of Pink Floyd (Meddle) in this music, but nevertheless they are quite unique. Highly recommended!! (if you can't find the original, there was also a repro available by Kalemegdan Disc one or two years ago!). Vrt Svetlosti (80) is said to be quite bad, but its impossible to find, so i can't tell you more about it. -- Achim Breiling Avant-garde space-rock, compared to Can. First 3 are archival material released in the '90s. From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Mar 29 15:33:59 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:33:59 -0600 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven In-Reply-To: <200103291942.OAA17019@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: :Subject: Re: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven : :On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:22:00 +0100, M Holmes wrote: :>Michael W Blackman writes: :> :>> You have a museum? :> :>Yeah. I have an Apple IIe ... : :Got one of those in the back of my closet still ... Me too! ...and a cute little SE sitting next to my Sun at work ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Mar 29 15:36:01 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:36:01 -0600 Subject: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc In-Reply-To: <20010329142006.B19806@telepres.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Eric Siegerman wrote: :Subject: Re: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc : :On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 12:28:16AM +0930, Michael W Blackman wrote: :> Since my return from the Hawkestra Concert last October I have dabbled over the idea for an official :> BOC/Hawkwind discussion list badge that can be worn to all pre concert gatherings etc : :We did T-shirts several years ago. Maybe it's time for another :run? Yes! I didn't manage to get a shirt, and keep eyeing the ones I've seen Jill and Mike wear ;-) Arin (who will also take a badge from Michael B., who just does neat stuff....) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Thu Mar 29 15:06:30 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:06:30 -0700 Subject: FLOOD DOOFAS BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: <3AC37FBA.31571.1E89447E@localhost> Message-ID: Got this response back regarding drilling in the Arctic Nat'l Wildlife Refuge: "Thank you for emailing President Bush. Your ideas and comments are very important to him. Unfortunately, because of the large volume of email received, the President cannot personally respond to each message. However, the White House Staff reviews every email message and reports citizen ideas and concerns to President Bush. Again, thank you for your email. Your interest in the work of President Bush and the new administration is appreciated. Sincerely, The White House Office of E-Correspondence" On Democracy Now! yesterday they reported that maps are being removed from government web pages that show caribou populations, migratory bird routes and other environmental factors that will be affected by drilling. Fortunately, the maps are being reposted on other sites such as www.savearcticrefuge.org www.maptricks.com Another Mark L From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Mar 29 16:14:45 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:14:45 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" 3/24 (No SDNC this Sat) Message-ID: NOTE: No SDNC this week, 3/31...at least not until the very late hours... (listen in anyway, esp. for "Audio Alchemy" at 9pm PST) "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm (sometimes past 7) PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck 3/24/01 (5-9pm PST) 1.Spiral Realms-- title track (Trip to G9) 2.Helios Creed-- "Late Bloomer" (The Last Laugh) 3.Mr. Quimby's Beard-- "The Forest Song" (ST'd--dedicated to Hardy and Jerry) 4.Mazinga Phazer-- "Afflux II" (Disatisfied Customers of Hallucination) 5.F/i-- "Full Meddle Eddie" (Helioscopium) 6.Hawkwind-- "D-Rider" (Hall of the Mountain Grill; request by Krissy) 7.Pressurehed-- "Hedstrap" (Infadrone) 8.Farflung-- "Solar Electrique" (25,000 Ft per Second) 9.Flowchart-- "Lovefingers" (Electronic Evocations: A Tribute to the Silver Apples) 10.Fuxa-- "Spruce" (Accretion) 11.Faust-- "The Sad Skinhead" (IV) 12.Shalabi Effect-- "On the Bowery" (ST'd) 13.Lithium X-mas-- "Green Tambourine" (Bad Karma) 14.Vine Sweetland and the Forefathers of the New Millenium-- excerpt from Light Shining in the Distance) 15.Chrome-- "All Data Lost" (Alien Soundtracks; request by AllDataLost) 16.Neu!-- "After Eight" (Neu! '75) 17.Cluster-- "Dem Wanderer" (Sowiesoso) 18.Circle-- "Promenaadikeskus" (Pori) 19.Spirits Burning-- "ARC - A Real Creeper" (New Worlds By Design) 20.Defender-- "Feel It Pt 1" (Promo) 21.Hovercraft-- "Quiet Room 44" (Akathisia) 22.Systems Theory-- "Breakdance in Hell" (Demos '99-'00) 23.SubArachnoid Space-- "Something Wicked/Lidocaine" (Delicate Membrane) 24.King Crimson-- "21st Century Schizoid Man" (In the Court of the Crimson King) 25.Nik Turner-- "Dream Worker" (Past or Future) 26.Frank Zappa/Mothers-- "Florentine Pogen" (One Size Fits All) 27.Frank Zappa/Mothers-- "Who are the Brain Police?" (Freak Out!) 28.Triple Zero-- "Part One..." (Crypto Sensus) (above set interspersed w/Zappa's "When Yuppies Go to Hell" 29.Kopeikin-- "Headstone Lane" (Soundtrap) w/Twin Peaks samples mix This week's voice-overs over Twin Peaks Soundtrack (Angelo Badalamenti) thanks, Chuck From hw at CY-B.ORG Thu Mar 29 17:16:26 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:16:26 -0500 Subject: HW: IRC LIVE Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS Hawkwind will be talking LIVE on DALnet channel #Hawkwind.org.uk at 17.30 GMT Tomorrow (Friday) Please see details on Mission Control Updates page for how to log on. To get an IRC program visit www.mirc.com Mission Control is at www.hawkwind.org.uk ++MISSION ENDS From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Mar 29 17:54:50 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:54:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Codex - phew In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Yes, but that isn't the whole story is it? There's also the matter > of who actually owns the stuff. And we have to face the sad fact that > though Hawkwind's management own EBS, the minute EBS get their hands on > something, that's the last we see of it. Ethically it should be Hawkwind's > management who own the material, at least in business terms. But when even > the band have to go to another label than their own to actually get things > released, well, something's up with that IMO. Yours, Well... EBS isn't Hawkwind management. Hawkwind don't have a management as such. EBS was a joint venture between several parties, including Dave and Doug. Without taking sides, I think it's fair to say there was a difference of opinion a while back which made it hard for them all to work together; so EBS kind of went into suspended animation. It's no individual's fault. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Mar 29 18:31:50 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:31:50 -0500 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:46:55 -0500, Jeff Berry wrote: >>I shall provide as much fact and proven evidence the global warming >>doesn't exist as you have that is does. there is no 100% all every one >>agrees fact on what global warming is or what causes it if indeed it >>exist, but if find some I will be more then happy to provide my sources >>Ken > >http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/intro/hansen.08/ > >Your turn. Yes. We're waiting. Although one can argue that the scientific theory which holds that human- emitted greenhouse gasses (CO2 etc.) are responsible for a global warming trend that could potentially render the planet uninhabitable is not CONCLUSIVELY proven, the evidence supporting it appears to be stronger than any evidence contradicting it. And, the likelihood is, by the time the theory is conclusively proven, well, the key word will be "conclusive". As in, the conclusion of life on earth as we know it. That's the issue - possible short-term economic loss versus possible FINAL CONCLUSION. Regardless of the science involved, the politics involved seem pretty obvious. Florida didn't hand the election to Bush like it was "supposed" to, and Florida would be the first state in the USA to be *catastrophically* affected by the effects of global warming (since the vast majority of the state is only a few feet above sea level ... at least Hawaii has some mighty tall mountains to retreat to). Sounds like payback time to me! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Mar 29 18:44:36 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:44:36 -0500 Subject: HW: Repeat Performance (was: 80s and beyond) Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:21:11 +0100, iain ferguson wrote: >Repeat Performance is an absolute stunner of a compilation album. >I also love the picture of the Baron on the back. Now if I could get >that picture in a 10 X 8, I'd get it signed by the man and frame it. Yes! At the time it was quite essential, since it was the only place you could find "Back On The Streets" and the single versions of "25 Years" & "Psi Power" (the last of which has *still* never been released on CD!). >John Rennie wrote: >> Mind you I don't know if anyone remembers the compilation album >> Repeat Performance released by Charisma some time around 1979. >> This is pretty close to being a definitive best of the Calvert albums. >> Sadly it never made it to CD. Like Keith H said, the 'Tales From Atomhenge' collection (and before that, the 'Spirit of the Age' collection on Virgin) was a good compilation of the Calvert / Charisma era, despite a few serious glaring omissions ("Death Trap"!!). Also the only place to get the P.X.R.5 LP version of "High Rise" on CD, since there's a different version of the P.X.R.5 CD. Of course, they're *all* out of print now (except for the few tracks on 'Epoch Eclipse'). WHY?!?!?!! -Doug ceres at sirius.com P.S. Recently made a 74-minute CD-R "best of" for that era (76-78). Tracklist: Reefer Madness Steppenwolf Kerb Crawler Back on the Streets Spirit of the Age Quark, Strangeness & Charm Hassan i Sahba Death Trap Robot Psi Power (single version - mastered from a 12" vinyl copy) 25 Years (single version) Flying Doctor Valium Ten (7" single edited version aka part 1) Who's Gonna Win The War (single version) From starfield at SUPANET.COM Thu Mar 29 19:47:59 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:47:59 +0100 Subject: CALVERT Message-ID: I played my tape tonight and there is indeed the best part of 60 minutes worth on it. Sides 1 and 2 are different, and the tape covers all 49 poems in the book. ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: Re: CALVERT > HI, Could it be possible that each side of the tape is the same? My copy is > 20 minutes long,and seems to go on forever.60 minutes is an awful long time, > or is there really that much poetry,for it to go that long? CHEERS STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Captain Bl at ck [mailto:starfield at SUPANET.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:20 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: CALVERT > > > The copy I have came from Harbour Publications, and is signed by Bob. > There's no question that he reads it, if in a somewhat subdued delivery. > > Its on two sides of a C60 and (from memory) covers all the poems in the > book. > > I undertand that Harbour were also offering Earth Ritual in a similar vein - > although I got the book, the tapes I ordered never materialised and then Bob > died soon after. > > Captain Bl at ck. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Lindas > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 5:58 PM > Subject: CALVERT > > > > Can anyone tell me the full length of the CALVERT recording-centigrade 232 > > readings? THANKS STEPHE From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Thu Mar 29 23:25:35 2001 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:25:35 -0800 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: <200103292331.SAA18844@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hmmm, One thing I remember during the days of my youth was being told that mankind was polluting the environment, which was going to cloud out the sun and cause another ice age. So, all in all, I prefer a "Hot" age. At least you can wear shorts. Think of all the solar power that would be available. And all the neat mutations that would occur. Especially gills for bad actors who skim the seas on funky catamarans. But let me make this perfectly clear, I am against pollution. And bad acting. And any kind of self-righteous wacko, from whichever spectrum they come. At 06:31 PM 3/29/01 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:46:55 -0500, Jeff Berry wrote: >>>I shall provide as much fact and proven evidence the global warming >>>doesn't exist as you have that is does. there is no 100% all every one >>>agrees fact on what global warming is or what causes it if indeed it >>>exist, but if find some I will be more then happy to provide my sources >>>Ken >> >>http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/intro/hansen.08/ >> >>Your turn. > >Yes. We're waiting. > >Although one can argue that the scientific theory which holds that human- >emitted greenhouse gasses (CO2 etc.) are responsible for a global warming >trend that could potentially render the planet uninhabitable is not >CONCLUSIVELY proven, the evidence supporting it appears to be stronger than >any evidence contradicting it. And, the likelihood is, by the time the >theory is conclusively proven, well, the key word will be "conclusive". As >in, the conclusion of life on earth as we know it. That's the issue - >possible short-term economic loss versus possible FINAL CONCLUSION. > >Regardless of the science involved, the politics involved seem pretty >obvious. Florida didn't hand the election to Bush like it was "supposed" >to, and Florida would be the first state in the USA to be >*catastrophically* affected by the effects of global warming (since the >vast majority of the state is only a few feet above sea level ... at least >Hawaii has some mighty tall mountains to retreat to). Sounds like payback >time to me! > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 29 20:26:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (the devil) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:26:57 -0600 Subject: off/FoFP/new 2CD hawkdiscs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mike+...fellow listers... when you asked what 2CD set you saw in a shop ........ it's a new castle comp, titled the "Legends Collection"... kevin Sommers has a copy of this......not sure if it's out in UK yet.....(we got it first in USA) I didn't buy the copy I found as the outer box wasn't perfect..it was squeezed into an anti-theft pack... made store owner fetch me his other copy which I haven't picked up yet.... (I AM HERE)..... From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 29 20:58:54 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:28:54 +0930 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: You DON'T believe in elves - We don't believe in you!!!! tee hee ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 2:16 AM Subject: Re: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! > not believing in global; warming is like not believing in fairies or elves. > , how can you be offended when some one doesn't believe in some thing that > is made up? > ken > > Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. > Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bart Brugmans" > > > > Yes, u do offend me. > > > > but, hey keep yr eyes closed and kill the Third World > > > > (cause they suffer most from climate change!) > > > > --BArt > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 29 21:06:02 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:36:02 +0930 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven Message-ID: hee hee ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 2:52 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven > Michael W Blackman writes: > > > You have a museum? > > Yeah. I have an Apple IIe and several flavours of BBC micro in it. > > FoFP > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 29 21:19:40 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:49:40 +0930 Subject: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc Message-ID: I'd like one! Wanna badge to go with your shirt? 8>) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Siegerman To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 4:50 AM Subject: Re: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc > On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 12:28:16AM +0930, Michael W Blackman wrote: > > Since my return from the Hawkestra Concert last October I have dabbled over the idea for an official > > BOC/Hawkwind discussion list badge that can be worn to all pre concert gatherings etc > > We did T-shirts several years ago. Maybe it's time for another > run? > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > necessarily a good idea. > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 29 21:21:36 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:51:36 +0930 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: Pollution, tho , does add to the effect ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Witt To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 5:31 AM Subject: Re: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Layla Thompson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 11:52 AM > Subject: Re: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! > > > > > > Anyone who truly thinks that global warming is fiction is either > incredibly selfish, or incredibly stupid. > > > > > > Oh, well I'm not too selfish. But I do tend to be a moron. And I'll be so > happy when the earth is a desert. Or is it dessert? I aint smart enuf to > know which is right. I'm pert near ignarnt enuf to not be offended when > someone dissergrees with me two. > > Start's to remind me though of Uncle Sam's on Mars. I really like that > song. Also a valid song dealing with the dangers of pollution. I think > we've really turned the corner on conservation and pollution issues, > thankfully. Too, Pollution is not the same as global warming. > > However, global warming is a dangerous scheme. If you believe in it, fine. > And if you like, blast ol' G.W. with a form email. > From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 29 21:22:54 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:22:54 EST Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Message-ID: remember the ice age? well, i don't really mean to ask if you remember it...but let's start there... what melted all that ice? global warming, to be sure...but certainly not such caused by polution/greenhouse gasses. it was (is) a natural cycle of climate change, yes? continuing as we speak. and even if it were true that the ice caps will melt, etc, why would that cause flooding, necessarily? when the ice in a glass of icewater melts,the glass doesn't overflow; the 'new' water takes up (nearly) the same space as the ice that it used to be...did. much achoo about nothing bobm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 29 21:33:33 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:33:33 EST Subject: wwf/motorhead Message-ID: from www.imotorhead.com; This weekend will see the largest pay-per-view event unleashed upon the world to date! Straight out of houston, TX, the latest installment of Wrestlemania will include one very special addition - MOTORHEAD! That is right - Motorhead will be performing the theme for HHH as part of theWrestlemania festivities! Be sure to check it out! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 29 21:43:07 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:13:07 +0930 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Message-ID: I have made a vow to cut down on my refried BEAN consumption therefore reducing my methane contribution to the atmosphere Just being playfull - please don't flame me (Stand at a distance if you do 8>) beans??? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert C. Mayo To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:52 AM Subject: Re: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING remember the ice age? well, i don't really mean to ask if you remember it...but let's start there... what melted all that ice? global warming, to be sure...but certainly not such caused by polution/greenhouse gasses. it was (is) a natural cycle of climate change, yes? continuing as we speak. and even if it were true that the ice caps will melt, etc, why would that cause flooding, necessarily? when the ice in a glass of icewater melts,the glass doesn't overflow; the 'new' water takes up (nearly) the same space as the ice that it used to be...did. much achoo about nothing bobm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 29 21:51:08 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:21:08 +0930 Subject: wwf/motorhead Message-ID: Wrestlemania!!!!!!......... Wrestlemania!!!!!!......... AGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHFGHGHFGHGHFGHGFHHFGHGF hmmmm aagagahgahgahgahgahghghghghghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh They need to upgrade their 1920's movie style fight actin' hosse It really sucks!!! Sorry that was outta line to be more precise it completely and utterly sucks the big bonzo ha ha Be good to see Lemmy tho! Then off goes the TV Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert C. Mayo To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:03 PM Subject: wwf/motorhead from www.imotorhead.com; This weekend will see the largest pay-per-view event unleashed upon the world to date! Straight out of houston, TX, the latest installment of Wrestlemania will include one very special addition - MOTORHEAD! That is right - Motorhead will be performing the theme for HHH as part of theWrestlemania festivities! Be sure to check it out! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Mar 29 22:03:24 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:03:24 -0500 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:22:54 EST, Robert C. Mayo wrote: >and even if it were true that the ice caps will melt, etc, why would that >cause flooding, necessarily? when the ice in a glass of icewater melts,the >glass doesn't overflow; the 'new' water takes up (nearly) the same space as >the ice that it used to be...did. That would be an accurate analogy IF the ice caps on Earth were floating in the oceans like ice cubes in a glass of water - in that case, 80-90% of the ice caps would already be below sea level, so yes, melting them would have little effect on the sea level worldwide. But that only holds true for icebergs, an infintesmal percentage of the amount of ice in the ice caps. The ice caps on Earth are mostly ABOVE sea level (on the continent of Antarctica, the island of Greenland, or on sheets ON TOP the ocean, held up by their connection to Antarctica or Greenland or Canada or Siberia). >much achoo about nothing ... I wish that was the case ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Thu Mar 29 22:12:04 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:12:04 -0500 Subject: NIK,OFF: Dark Sun Ice Ritual/ Scandinavian Space Message-ID: From: "Marshall Wood" > What other Spacious Mind CDs are available? (I know they put out a > few LP-only releases.) I have _Mind of a Brother_ and _Cosmic Minds > at Play_. I have them plus "Sailing The Seagoat", "Organic Mind Solution" on CD and "Sleepy Eyes and Butterflies" double LP. Jerry From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Mar 29 22:18:32 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:18:32 -0500 Subject: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc In-Reply-To: <00a301c0b8bf$e0c8e360$0fcb223f@michaelangelo68>; from michaelangelo68@OZEMAIL.COM.AU on Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:49:40AM +0930 Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:49:40AM +0930, Michael W Blackman wrote: > I'd like one [boc-l shirt]! > > Wanna badge to go with your shirt? 8>) Sure. Actually, I want a UK shirt, too; I only got N.Am. ones. Do the t-shirt silkscreens still exist? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Thu Mar 29 22:36:14 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:36:14 +1200 Subject: Spacious Mind In-Reply-To: <00b801c0b8c7$327f9a80$63a4a918@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: > I have them plus "Sailing The Seagoat", "Organic Mind Solution" on CD and "Sleepy Eyes and Butterflies" double LP. Sailing the Seagoat (Garageland records) is now deleted. The LP on Lone Starfighter Records (Garden of a Well Fed Head)will be released on CD once the last copies of the LP have sold out Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com > > What other Spacious Mind CDs are available? (I know they put out a > > few LP-only releases.) I have _Mind of a Brother_ and _Cosmic Minds > > at Play_. > > > Jerry > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Mar 29 22:32:30 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:02:30 +0930 Subject: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc Message-ID: I know nothing about the t-shirts for the BOC/hawkwind but the badges - that I do know :) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Siegerman To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:48 PM Subject: Re: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc > On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:49:40AM +0930, Michael W Blackman wrote: > > I'd like one [boc-l shirt]! > > > > Wanna badge to go with your shirt? 8>) > > Sure. Actually, I want a UK shirt, too; I only got N.Am. ones. > > Do the t-shirt silkscreens still exist? > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > necessarily a good idea. > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) > From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Mar 30 01:14:30 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:14:30 +0100 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: That's major cool - can we hold huge parties in them?? Sam -----Original Message----- From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] Sent: 29 March 2001 18:35 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Jon Browne wrote: > Not that it's got anything to do with anything, but did you know there > are actually 40 abandoned stations on the Tube? > > Like King William Street, which was closed over 100 years ago, which > still has posters on its wall but is only accessible down a manhole in > the basement of Regis House, with breathing gear coz the air's gone bad? I knew there were three at least, but I didn't know it was as many as forty... You come through two of them (Lords and Marylebone Road) on the way into Baker Street on the Metropolitan, they're not too difficult to spot although most of the platforms have been cleared out. And of course Everyone Knows there's one under Buck House to evacuate the Royals with in the case of son^H^H^Hnuclear attack. Honestguvplainasthernoseon- yerfaceinnitnah. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Mar 30 01:20:11 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:20:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Careful use of the saxophone Message-ID: lol - I saw that - should have seen my face when the bugger moved!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mark Licht [mailto:mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM] Sent: 29 March 2001 20:44 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Careful use of the saxophone > >>As for his 'look'- does it matter?? At the Astoria while Jez H. was standing in the wings, waiting to come on, he stood so still that from my perspective in the balcony I thought he was one of Ron's props Definitely the other Mark L *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Mar 30 01:27:40 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:27:40 +0100 Subject: wwf/motorhead Message-ID: Any chance of paying Lemmy to beat Stephanie McMahon about the head?? Sam Oh and if anyone hears of tickets for Earls Court on May 8th (lol - likely!) - e-mail me please. -----Original Message----- From: Robert C. Mayo [mailto:RMayo19761 at AOL.COM] Sent: 30 March 2001 03:34 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: wwf/motorhead from www.imotorhead.com; This weekend will see the largest pay-per-view event unleashed upon the world to date! Straight out of houston, TX, the latest installment of Wrestlemania will include one very special addition - MOTORHEAD! That is right - Motorhead will be performing the theme for HHH as part of theWrestlemania festivities! Be sure to check it out! *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Mar 30 01:28:44 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:28:44 +0100 Subject: wwf/motorhead Message-ID: But it's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo funny. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: 30 March 2001 03:51 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: wwf/motorhead Wrestlemania!!!!!!......... Wrestlemania!!!!!!......... AGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHFGHGHFGHGHFGHGFHHFGHGF hmmmm aagagahgahgahgahgahghghghghghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh They need to upgrade their 1920's movie style fight actin' hosse It really sucks!!! Sorry that was outta line to be more precise it completely and utterly sucks the big bonzo ha ha Be good to see Lemmy tho! Then off goes the TV Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert C. Mayo To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:03 PM Subject: wwf/motorhead from www.imotorhead.com ; This weekend will see the largest pay-per-view event unleashed upon the world to date! Straight out of houston, TX, the latest installment of Wrestlemania will include one very special addition - MOTORHEAD! That is right - Motorhead will be performing the theme for HHH as part of theWrestlemania festivities! Be sure to check it out! *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 01:58:36 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:58:36 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD Message-ID: There was another three CD box set released by Castle (or one of their other names) that was a triple compilation. The contents were mostly numbers that had previously been released by Castle on other one and two CD compilations. Each CD did contain a pretty nifty cover booklet with some very good photos. I have this somewhere and can dig out more details if you need them. Mark On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:17:05 -0700, Kevin Sommers wrote: >'Hawkwind - 3 Originals' (Castle CLA BX 911) CONTAINS 'Live 79' 'Levitation' >and 'Space Bandits' >Is that the one? > >KevinSommers > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of M Holmes >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 10:49 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Hawkwind triple CD > > >Quite a few years ago there was a triple CD box set released. Can anyone >remember which 3 CDs were in this? > >FoFP From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 02:06:58 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 02:06:58 -0500 Subject: OFF: Mikey looks into silicon heaven & his platter Message-ID: Hi, Having worked in the computer world since the 70's when that world was dominated by IBM and ICL mainframes (remember them), I remember the day when some 'clown' first brought a PC into the computer centre. Oh how we laughed and scoffed. That will never catch on we said, typewriter with a screen, send it back. Hmm! How life changes. Now I use my PC to access the mainframes as infrequently as I can get away with. God, I remember disk units that you could walk into. One thing though, the band has never changed, still pumping out Hawkwind to the uneducated masses whenever I can but now I can do it from my 'typewriter with a screen'!! See Ya Mark From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 02:14:36 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 02:14:36 -0500 Subject: wwf/motorhead Message-ID: Hi, But you got to admit that WWF has been the marketing success story of the last few years. Here in the UK they are even interviewing ex British wrestlers of the 70's on serious sports radio stations - Mick McManus was in the studio this week. If only Hawkwind had access to their marketing department, perhaps Lemmy could make the introduction, then you might get your American tour.... Hawkwind featuring Triple H (or such like wrestler) on WWF style reggae rap .... UNREAL!!! From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Mar 30 02:44:54 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:44:54 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: <200103271038.LAA24746@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 11:38 +0100 27.3.2001, M Holmes wrote: >I meant to imply that Richard Branson could certainly save us from some >madman in power making the trains run on time. Ah! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Mar 30 02:47:08 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:47:08 +0100 Subject: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6D85@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: At 11:11 -0600 27.3.2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: >I think the ALIEN lp is the best lp since SPACE BANDITS, probably my fav of >the 90's Dunno, I might give _Electric Teepee_ the edge over _A4_. Not that there _were_ that many albums of the 90s :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Fri Mar 30 02:50:32 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:50:32 +0100 Subject: NIK: Dark Sun Ice Ritual/ Scandinavian Space In-Reply-To: <3AC33A4A.650335F8@tiac.net> Message-ID: At 8:36 -0500 29.3.2001, Chris Raymond wrote: >I just received Dark Sun - Ice Ritual with Nik Turner on some of the >tracks. This is alive CD of Hawkwind songs. Excellent sound quality and >good music. The best part of it for me was the bonus studio track. It is >about 9.5 minutes long and it really good. The price was right too, >$14.00 including shipping! I look forward to more Dark Sun in the >future. Definitely. Find their first album (Feed Your Mind) if you can -- it's excellent. Blows away _Ice Ritual_, actually :) >To venture further off topic, is there anything new from Pseudo Sun? They had a track on a Man tribute recently. >Stll have my fingers crossed that eventually DarXtar's Tombola or >whatever the new album was called will be released someday. >I also hope that the Spacious Mind - Mind of a Brother did well enough >that they will put out a new one as well! Amen. Mind of a Brother was a great album! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Fri Mar 30 02:53:38 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:53:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Spacious Mind In-Reply-To: <200103292014.PAA09276@mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: At 15:03 -0500 29.3.2001, K Henderson wrote: >"Garden of a Well-fed Hed" or something like that. I think it's a live LP >on Lone Starfighter (Texas), but am not exactly sure. From what I remember >from hearing it once, it's fantastic. I thought there was supposed to be a >CD release, but haven't seen it out yet. I'd rather wait, if in fact it >does appear. _Garden..._ is not live, or at least it has some studio stuff on it, but is very cool. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 03:15:53 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:15:53 +0100 Subject: HW: IRC LIVE Message-ID: oh....poo!! Just got that thing downloaded yesterday, but I'll not be on anymore at 5:30. I wanted to have a go Nuts. Layla. >>> hw at CY-B.ORG 03/29/01 11:16pm >>> ++STAR WARRIORS Hawkwind will be talking LIVE on DALnet channel #Hawkwind.org.uk at 17.30 GMT Tomorrow (Friday) Please see details on Mission Control Updates page for how to log on. To get an IRC program visit www.mirc.com Mission Control is at www.hawkwind.org.uk ++MISSION ENDS From wrightm at BRE.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 03:24:55 2001 From: wrightm at BRE.CO.UK (Wright, Mike) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:24:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Message-ID: That is true, if the ice is floating (see previous rebuttal) but the thing about global warming is that it makes the sea water warmer, causing it to expand, thus raising the sea level. Or so I have read. Mike w -----Original Message----- From: Robert C. Mayo [mailto:RMayo19761 at AOL.COM] Sent: 30 March 2001 03:23 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING remember the ice age? well, i don't really mean to ask if you remember it...but let's start there... what melted all that ice? global warming, to be sure...but certainly not such caused by polution/greenhouse gasses. it was (is) a natural cycle of climate change, yes? continuing as we speak. and even if it were true that the ice caps will melt, etc, why would that cause flooding, necessarily? when the ice in a glass of icewater melts,the glass doesn't overflow; the 'new' water takes up (nearly) the same space as the ice that it used to be...did. much achoo about nothing bobm Privileged and confidential information and/or copyright material may be contained in this e-mail. The information and material is intended for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee you may not copy or deliver it to anyone else or use it in any unauthorised manner. To do so is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you. From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 03:46:05 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:46:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Message-ID: Robert C. Mayo wrote: >remember the ice age? well, i don't really mean to ask if you remember >it...but let's start there... >what melted all that ice? global warming, to be sure...but certainly not such >caused by polution/greenhouse gasses. it was (is) a natural cycle of climate >change, yes? continuing as we speak. Correct in as much as there is a natural and an anthropomorphic (Latin, 'the fault of the George Bush' ;-) ) global warming effect, and the two add together. We may be experiencing natural warming, but do we wish to accelerate the process? Besides which, if even there was no anthropomorphic greenhouse effect, if we continue to rely on fossil fuel we will run out. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but what about our children's lifetimes? Academic and industrial opinion is rapidly approaching a concensus that using hydrogen as a way of transporting energy is the best solution. You can generate it in many ways, from fossil or renewable energy sources, you can use it in a number of ways, and the wast product is water. >and even if it were true that the ice caps will melt, etc, why would that >cause flooding, necessarily? when the ice in a glass of icewater melts,the >glass doesn't overflow; the 'new' water takes up (nearly) the same space as >the ice that it used to be...did. Why does ice float? Because it's less dense than water. Floating ice (e.g. the Arctic and the coast of Antarctica) may not raise much water above sea level, but ice on land masses does (e.g. Antarctica, Greenland, northern Eurasia and America). Melt the ice, return it to the sea, raise the sea level. Plus there is the thermal expansion of water. Heat the oceans, expand the sea. Mark From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Mar 30 04:11:04 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:11:04 -0600 Subject: CALVERT Message-ID: THANK YOU for taking the time to check that for me. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck [mailto:starfield at SUPANET.COM] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:48 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: CALVERT I played my tape tonight and there is indeed the best part of 60 minutes worth on it. Sides 1 and 2 are different, and the tape covers all 49 poems in the book. ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: Re: CALVERT > HI, Could it be possible that each side of the tape is the same? My copy is > 20 minutes long,and seems to go on forever.60 minutes is an awful long time, > or is there really that much poetry,for it to go that long? CHEERS STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Captain Bl at ck [mailto:starfield at SUPANET.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:20 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: CALVERT > > > The copy I have came from Harbour Publications, and is signed by Bob. > There's no question that he reads it, if in a somewhat subdued delivery. > > Its on two sides of a C60 and (from memory) covers all the poems in the > book. > > I undertand that Harbour were also offering Earth Ritual in a similar vein - > although I got the book, the tapes I ordered never materialised and then Bob > died soon after. > > Captain Bl at ck. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Lindas > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 5:58 PM > Subject: CALVERT > > > > Can anyone tell me the full length of the CALVERT recording-centigrade 232 > > readings? THANKS STEPHE From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Fri Mar 30 10:22:43 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:22:43 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD In-Reply-To: <200103291748.SAA15487@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I think I've got this one. I remember one of the disks was a Dave Brock interview, think the other two were compilations of some sort. Are you ready for the Electronica tapes yet and is there anything else you want? Where shall I send them? My address for the video is 2 Furlong Way Great Amwell HERTS SG12 9TF Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 29 March 2001 12:49 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Hawkwind triple CD Quite a few years ago there was a triple CD box set released. Can anyone remember which 3 CDs were in this? FoFP From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Fri Mar 30 10:34:44 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:34:44 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD In-Reply-To: <000a01c0b92d$444b0d10$207ce4d4@thrupoint.net> Message-ID: Just realised mine are vinyl not disk, but the interview's good anyway. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of ejobson Sent: 30 March 2001 10:23 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkwind triple CD I think I've got this one. I remember one of the disks was a Dave Brock interview, think the other two were compilations of some sort. Are you ready for the Electronica tapes yet and is there anything else you want? Where shall I send them? My address for the video is 2 Furlong Way Great Amwell HERTS SG12 9TF Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 29 March 2001 12:49 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Hawkwind triple CD Quite a few years ago there was a triple CD box set released. Can anyone remember which 3 CDs were in this? FoFP From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 04:51:47 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:51:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Message-ID: you lot all seem to be very knowledgeable on this stuff. Congrats to you! (Unless of course you're just copying from the internet!!!) Layla. >>> m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK 03/30/01 09:46am >>> Robert C. Mayo wrote: >remember the ice age? well, i don't really mean to ask if you remember >it...but let's start there... >what melted all that ice? global warming, to be sure...but certainly not such >caused by polution/greenhouse gasses. it was (is) a natural cycle of climate >change, yes? continuing as we speak. Correct in as much as there is a natural and an anthropomorphic (Latin, 'the fault of the George Bush' ;-) ) global warming effect, and the two add together. We may be experiencing natural warming, but do we wish to accelerate the process? Besides which, if even there was no anthropomorphic greenhouse effect, if we continue to rely on fossil fuel we will run out. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but what about our children's lifetimes? Academic and industrial opinion is rapidly approaching a concensus that using hydrogen as a way of transporting energy is the best solution. You can generate it in many ways, from fossil or renewable energy sources, you can use it in a number of ways, and the wast product is water. >and even if it were true that the ice caps will melt, etc, why would that >cause flooding, necessarily? when the ice in a glass of icewater melts,the >glass doesn't overflow; the 'new' water takes up (nearly) the same space as >the ice that it used to be...did. Why does ice float? Because it's less dense than water. Floating ice (e.g. the Arctic and the coast of Antarctica) may not raise much water above sea level, but ice on land masses does (e.g. Antarctica, Greenland, northern Eurasia and America). Melt the ice, return it to the sea, raise the sea level. Plus there is the thermal expansion of water. Heat the oceans, expand the sea. Mark From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 30 05:57:49 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Killfile Deletion) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:57:49 -0600 Subject: Lockheed Remaster/ Sham 69/Greek 4track EP In-Reply-To: <000a01c0b92d$444b0d10$207ce4d4@thrupoint.net> Message-ID: Capatain Lockheed (calvert),,,,,is now residing in Dallas, in remastered CD form with "faithfully restored artwork" from BGO...... sounded cosmic to me....... come in Andy G, R-U-RECEIVING????? why did this await me here???? did they do Lucky Leif???? SHAM 69 "The Game" on CD with bonus cuts........couldn't resist it as NIK is credited by Adrian Parr as being on this.....could someone provide knowledge??? I have to be beer buzzed to deal with this one, and I'm just not hearing that sax.....WASSUP??? (didn't complete the listen, but have the LP) Finally got Greek 4-track Promo CD EP, titled "The Hawkwind EP"... this is the first delicious taste of "Kings Of Speed" in remastered form....that being EMI remastered form...(I'm pretty darn sure)!!?? The CD is marked "Promo" but on it it says "file under Space Rock"....this confuses me slightly..... do they file promos in Greece??? thanks to: ALL at mission control, Jerry, and Keith.....a slight ponder should reveal why.... the unfathomable, unthinkable, unspeakable, black, black, black, un-nameable, horror. that even now (thats all the Lovecraft I can remember)... mdc PS--OH YEAH, looks like calvert FREQ + 2 has been redone....not got it yet.....or seen.... From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 30 06:22:44 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:52:44 +0930 Subject: wwf/motorhead Message-ID: I'll concede that ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Kirwan To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:58 PM Subject: Re: wwf/motorhead > But it's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo funny. > > > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: 30 March 2001 03:51 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: wwf/motorhead > > > Wrestlemania!!!!!!......... > > Wrestlemania!!!!!!......... > > AGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHFGHGHFGHGHFGHGFHHFGHGF > > hmmmm > > aagagahgahgahgahgahghghghghghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh > > They need to upgrade their 1920's movie style fight actin' hosse > > It really sucks!!! > > Sorry that was outta line > > to be more precise it completely and utterly sucks the big bonzo > > ha ha > > Be good to see Lemmy tho! > Then off goes the TV > Mb > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert C. Mayo > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:03 PM > Subject: wwf/motorhead > > from www.imotorhead.com ; > > > This weekend will see the largest pay-per-view event unleashed upon the > world > to date! Straight out of houston, TX, the latest installment of Wrestlemania > > will include one very special addition - MOTORHEAD! > > That is right - Motorhead will be performing the theme for HHH as part of > theWrestlemania festivities! Be sure to check it out! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************************** ******* > The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted > with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention > of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or > copying of this document is unauthorised. > > Thank you > NTL > **************************************************************************** ******* > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 30 06:25:20 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:55:20 +0930 Subject: wwf/motorhead Message-ID: and someone could secretly spike the wrestlers juice with massive doses of LSD Just imagine the chaos LOL all those wretlers pretending to fight phantom hallucinations beating up the umpire etc etc etc Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Von Bargen To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 4:44 PM Subject: Re: wwf/motorhead > Hi, > > But you got to admit that WWF has been the marketing success story of the > last few years. Here in the UK they are even interviewing ex British > wrestlers of the 70's on serious sports radio stations - Mick McManus was > in the studio this week. > > If only Hawkwind had access to their marketing department, perhaps Lemmy > could make the introduction, then you might get your American tour.... > Hawkwind featuring Triple H (or such like wrestler) on WWF style reggae rap > .... UNREAL!!! > From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Mar 30 06:21:18 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 05:21:18 -0600 Subject: Lockheed Remaster/ Sham 69/Greek 4track EP Message-ID: HI UNCLE NIK plays sax on TELL THE CHILDREN. It is a great cd if you like 70's style punk. He also plays on Jimmy Pursey (singers solo lp)-IMflamable material CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Killfile Deletion [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 4:58 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Lockheed Remaster/ Sham 69/Greek 4track EP Capatain Lockheed (calvert),,,,,is now residing in Dallas, in remastered CD form with "faithfully restored artwork" from BGO...... sounded cosmic to me....... come in Andy G, R-U-RECEIVING????? why did this await me here???? did they do Lucky Leif???? SHAM 69 "The Game" on CD with bonus cuts........couldn't resist it as NIK is credited by Adrian Parr as being on this.....could someone provide knowledge??? I have to be beer buzzed to deal with this one, and I'm just not hearing that sax.....WASSUP??? (didn't complete the listen, but have the LP) Finally got Greek 4-track Promo CD EP, titled "The Hawkwind EP"... this is the first delicious taste of "Kings Of Speed" in remastered form....that being EMI remastered form...(I'm pretty darn sure)!!?? The CD is marked "Promo" but on it it says "file under Space Rock"....this confuses me slightly..... do they file promos in Greece??? thanks to: ALL at mission control, Jerry, and Keith.....a slight ponder should reveal why.... the unfathomable, unthinkable, unspeakable, black, black, black, un-nameable, horror. that even now (thats all the Lovecraft I can remember)... mdc PS--OH YEAH, looks like calvert FREQ + 2 has been redone....not got it yet.....or seen.... From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Mar 30 06:36:51 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:36:51 +0800 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: > >Bill said: From September 1958 to March 29, 2001 > > A time machine they may have. Already Hawkwind's possessions are: > >1) An anti-radiation machine > >2) Needle Gun > >3) Orgone Accumulator > >4) Nuclear Drive > >5) Robot > >6) Silver Machine > >and of course the Mothership (long may she fly) Mark said: > Yes, but orgone accumulators have been around since the 30s, you can build > one yourself http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/woorgone.htm . LOL They don't work that well do they. The common cold and cancers are still around. Every hospital should have one. Machine is a bicycle> Yes I know, but wouldn't it be great to own this one! I had several bikes as a kid and not one of them could "fly sideways through time." Cheers Bill From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 06:38:25 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:38:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: Andy Gilham's message of Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:38:04 +0100 Message-ID: > Anyone who truly thinks that global warming is fiction is either > incredibly selfish, or incredibly stupid. Translation: "Anyone who dares to disagree with me is obviously either less smart than I am or has nefarious motives." Of course the smart thing to do would be to collect evidence of global warming and if we find some, identify whether the cause is climate, the variable star known as Sol, or our activities. If it's our activities then the yanks are almost certainly correct in that trading pollution credits would solve the problem more efficiently than any amount of government edicts. Certainly a flood of email to George Bush's mailbox will achieve absolutely zilch. Given that Greenpeace were dead wrong on Brent Spar and are almost certainly wrong on genetic enhancement, I'm not about to believe them on global warming until they pony up hard proof. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 06:39:30 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:39:30 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD In-Reply-To: Kevin Sommers's message of Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:17:05 -0700 Message-ID: Kevin Sommers writes: > > Quite a few years ago there was a triple CD box set released. Can anyone > remember which 3 CDs were in this? > 'Hawkwind - 3 Originals' (Castle CLA BX 911) CONTAINS 'Live 79' 'Levitation' > and 'Space Bandits' > Is that the one? Not sure. Did the box have a grid on it? FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 30 06:43:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:13:45 +0930 Subject: HW: IRC LIVE Message-ID: awwwww - why not? MB ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: Re: HW: IRC LIVE > oh....poo!! > > Just got that thing downloaded yesterday, but I'll not be on anymore at 5:30. > > I wanted to have a go > > Nuts. > > > Layla. > > > > >>> hw at CY-B.ORG 03/29/01 11:16pm >>> > ++STAR WARRIORS > > Hawkwind will be talking LIVE on DALnet channel #Hawkwind.org.uk > at 17.30 GMT Tomorrow (Friday) Please see details on Mission Control > Updates page for how to log on. > > To get an IRC program visit www.mirc.com > > Mission Control is at www.hawkwind.org.uk > > ++MISSION ENDS From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 06:43:30 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:43:30 +0100 Subject: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:36:01 -0600 Message-ID: > :We did T-shirts several years ago. Maybe it's time for another > :run? > > Yes! I didn't manage to get a shirt, and keep eyeing the ones I've > seen Jill and Mike wear ;-) I could check with the shop to see if they still have the screens. I could use a couple of fresh ones anyway. I'd also wondered whether doing black on white would be good. FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 30 06:47:12 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:17:12 +0930 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Message-ID: No - it's my intuition you see less refried beans - less methane gas - less green house effect Well - i've had a productive day - indeed Tally Hooooooooo Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:21 PM Subject: Re: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING > you lot all seem to be very knowledgeable on this stuff. > > Congrats to you! (Unless of course you're just copying from the internet!!!) > > > Layla. > > >>> m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK 03/30/01 09:46am >>> > Robert C. Mayo wrote: > >remember the ice age? well, i don't really mean to ask if you remember > >it...but let's start there... > > >what melted all that ice? global warming, to be sure...but certainly not > such > >caused by polution/greenhouse gasses. it was (is) a natural cycle of > climate > >change, yes? continuing as we speak. > Correct in as much as there is a natural and an anthropomorphic (Latin, 'the > fault of the George Bush' ;-) ) global warming effect, and the two add > together. We may be experiencing natural warming, but do we wish to > accelerate the process? > > Besides which, if even there was no anthropomorphic greenhouse effect, if we > continue to rely on fossil fuel we will run out. Maybe not in our lifetimes, > but what about our children's lifetimes? > > Academic and industrial opinion is rapidly approaching a concensus that > using hydrogen as a way of transporting energy is the best solution. You can > generate it in many ways, from fossil or renewable energy sources, you can > use it in a number of ways, and the wast product is water. > > >and even if it were true that the ice caps will melt, etc, why would that > >cause flooding, necessarily? when the ice in a glass of icewater melts,the > >glass doesn't overflow; the 'new' water takes up (nearly) the same space as > >the ice that it used to be...did. > > Why does ice float? Because it's less dense than water. Floating ice (e.g. > the Arctic and the coast of Antarctica) may not raise much water above sea > level, but ice on land masses does (e.g. Antarctica, Greenland, northern > Eurasia and America). Melt the ice, return it to the sea, raise the sea > level. Plus there is the thermal expansion of water. Heat the oceans, expand > the sea. > > Mark > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 30 06:51:25 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:21:25 +0930 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: So - does this mean that I can eat all the refried beans I like?? Guilt free? tee hee ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:08 PM Subject: Re: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! > > Anyone who truly thinks that global warming is fiction is either > > incredibly selfish, or incredibly stupid. > > Translation: "Anyone who dares to disagree with me is obviously either > less smart than I am or has nefarious motives." > > Of course the smart thing to do would be to collect evidence of global > warming and if we find some, identify whether the cause is climate, the > variable star known as Sol, or our activities. If it's our activities > then the yanks are almost certainly correct in that trading pollution > credits would solve the problem more efficiently than any amount of > government edicts. > > Certainly a flood of email to George Bush's mailbox will achieve > absolutely zilch. > > Given that Greenpeace were dead wrong on Brent Spar and are almost > certainly wrong on genetic enhancement, I'm not about to believe them on > global warming until they pony up hard proof. > > FoFP > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 06:49:20 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:49:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: Douglas Pearson's message of Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:31:50 -0500 Message-ID: Douglas Pearson writes: > Although one can argue that the scientific theory which holds that human- > emitted greenhouse gasses (CO2 etc.) are responsible for a global warming > trend that could potentially render the planet uninhabitable is not > CONCLUSIVELY proven, the evidence supporting it appears to be stronger than > any evidence contradicting it. And, the likelihood is, by the time the > theory is conclusively proven, well, the key word will be "conclusive". As > in, the conclusion of life on earth as we know it. That's the issue - > possible short-term economic loss versus possible FINAL CONCLUSION. > > Regardless of the science involved, the politics involved seem pretty > obvious. Florida didn't hand the election to Bush like it was "supposed" > to I thought it did? There was never any point at which he was behind in Florida, though there was admittedly a point at which the idiot media stated he'd lost Florida. It was kinda weird to leave my boss's house with Gore being declared President to arrive at my house to hear Bush declared President and then wake up to hear you guys admit you had no idea who was President. I'm sure you'll install better equipment by next time. The option will be to hear Hilary Clinton whining on TV for 53 days. The rest of us would all rather get together and nuke you rather than face that. > and Florida would be the first state in the USA to be > *catastrophically* affected by the effects of global warming (since the > vast majority of the state is only a few feet above sea level ... at least > Hawaii has some mighty tall mountains to retreat to). Sounds like payback > time to me! People in glass houses Doug: would the last person to leave California please switch out the lights :-) > -Doug FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 30 06:52:38 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:22:38 +0930 Subject: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc Message-ID: I'd love to see the art for that!!! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:13 PM Subject: Re: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc > > :We did T-shirts several years ago. Maybe it's time for another > > :run? > > > > Yes! I didn't manage to get a shirt, and keep eyeing the ones I've > > seen Jill and Mike wear ;-) > > I could check with the shop to see if they still have the screens. I > could use a couple of fresh ones anyway. I'd also wondered whether doing > black on white would be good. > > FoFP From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Mar 30 06:57:29 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:57:29 +0800 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: Yep. Plus the fact of wanton destruction of old growth forests don't help much. Already weeds are writing scriptures in the sand. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 1:52 AM Subject: Re: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! > Touchy!! > > > Have to say that I am 100% on your side though. > > Anyone who truly thinks that global warming is fiction is either incredibly selfish, or incredibly stupid. > > > Layla > > >>> bart at ENGAGE.NU 03/29/01 05:40pm >>> > On 29 Mar 2001, at 10:42, Dan Witt wrote: > > > No offense, but Global Warming is fiction. > > Yes, u do offend me. > > but, hey keep yr eyes closed and kill the Third World > > (cause they suffer most from climate change!) > > --BArt > From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Mar 30 06:57:41 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 05:57:41 -0600 Subject: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc Message-ID: I want a shirt too. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 5:43 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc > :We did T-shirts several years ago. Maybe it's time for another > :run? > > Yes! I didn't manage to get a shirt, and keep eyeing the ones I've > seen Jill and Mike wear ;-) I could check with the shop to see if they still have the screens. I could use a couple of fresh ones anyway. I'd also wondered whether doing black on white would be good. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 07:00:55 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:00:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: dhuggins's message of Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:25:35 -0800 Message-ID: dhuggins writes: > Hmmm, > > One thing I remember during the days of my youth was being told that > mankind was polluting the environment, which was going to cloud out the sun > and cause another ice age. I had a Canadian teacher in 1968 so I got an early version of the Greenhouse effect. A little later the second report to the Club of Rome (Meadows) came out and we all got the Limits to Growth stuff thrown at us in high school. Alongside all this most of our parents' generation were telling us that a nuclear war was inevitable and sometime later they thought up nuclear winter. Then it was ice ages in general. Now we're back to greenhouses with a little bit of asteroid strike, supervolcanoe eruption, or 1000 foot Tsunami caused by the collapse of a volcanic shelf on some piddling island off the Atlantic that I can't even remember the name of. For my money we should at least build Spacewatch and research the best defence against asteroid strike. The reason being that it will definitely happen sooner or later; it happens more often than we'd like to think; and doing space stuff is interesting and useful to long term survival anyway. I can't see what we could do about supervolcanoes or tsunamis. Nukes can't be uninvented and so political solutions are needed there; and there's no point in trashing the world economy (particularly not at the low point of the K-wave - Bush is correct on that) until we have solid evidence of a problem and what's causing it. > So, all in all, I prefer a "Hot" age. At least > you can wear shorts. Think of all the solar power that would be available. > And all the neat mutations that would occur. Especially gills for bad > actors who skim the seas on funky catamarans. We'd be best not to get into a runaway greenhouse cycle, but we could almost certainly delay it by banging up large mylar sheets at the Earth-Sol lagrange points - at least long enough to work on the problem. Of course that requires better space infrastructure and so back to Spacewatch. > But let me make this perfectly clear, I am against pollution. Pollution is just food for nanocritters. We've just gotta invent the nanocritters. Believe it or not though, there's *already* a group protesting nanotech and incipient AI. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 07:03:25 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:03:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: Robert C. Mayo's message of Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:22:54 EST Message-ID: Robert C. Mayo writes: > and even if it were true that the ice caps will melt, etc, why would that > cause flooding, necessarily? when the ice in a glass of icewater melts,the > glass doesn't overflow; the 'new' water takes up (nearly) the same space as > the ice that it used to be...did. Good analysis but I have Bad News: while the arctic ice is sea ice, most of the antarctic ice is on a shelf, as are the mountain glaciers. What happens if you have a full glass with ice on a soap dish above it, and then you melt the ice? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 07:05:47 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:05:47 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD In-Reply-To: Mark Von Bargen's message of Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:58:36 -0500 Message-ID: Mark Von Bargen writes: > There was another three CD box set released by Castle (or one of their > other names) that was a triple compilation. The contents were mostly > numbers that had previously been released by Castle on other one and two CD > compilations. > Each CD did contain a pretty nifty cover booklet with some very good photos. > I have this somewhere and can dig out more details if you need them. Thanks, but I have the Castle triple. There was another one that I didn't buy. FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 30 07:10:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:40:27 +0930 Subject: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc Message-ID: I have no idea who is doing the shirts? Is it you Mike H.? I mean I could do an iron on transfer but if someone allready has screens made up? Would be better...yes? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:27 PM Subject: Re: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc > I want a shirt too. STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 5:43 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc > > > > :We did T-shirts several years ago. Maybe it's time for another > > :run? > > > > Yes! I didn't manage to get a shirt, and keep eyeing the ones I've > > seen Jill and Mike wear ;-) > > I could check with the shop to see if they still have the screens. I > could use a couple of fresh ones anyway. I'd also wondered whether doing > black on white would be good. > > FoFP > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 30 07:12:03 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:42:03 +0930 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Message-ID: >I had a Canadian teacher in 1968 so I got an early version of the >Greenhouse effect. A little later the second report to the Club of Rome I had a Canadian birth in 1968..... Vancouver mannn! Hey From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 07:11:25 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:11:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: Mark Jermy's message of Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:46:05 +0100 Message-ID: Mark Jermy writes: > Besides which, if even there was no anthropomorphic greenhouse effect, if we > continue to rely on fossil fuel we will run out. Maybe not in our lifetimes, > but what about our children's lifetimes? Does anyone really believe that we won't get nuclear fusion working within our children's lifetimes? > Academic and industrial opinion is rapidly approaching a concensus that > using hydrogen as a way of transporting energy is the best solution. You can > generate it in many ways, from fossil or renewable energy sources, you can > use it in a number of ways, and the wast product is water. Even the major car manufacturers admit that hydrogen fuel cells will be commonplace by 2030. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 07:12:35 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:12:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: Layla Thompson's message of Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:51:47 +0100 Message-ID: Layla Thompson writes: > you lot all seem to be very knowledgeable on this stuff. > > Congrats to you! (Unless of course you're just copying from the internet!!!) I'm copying it out of stuff I once read in books. Is that bad? > Layla. FoFP From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Fri Mar 30 07:30:24 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:30:24 +1200 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: <200103301211.NAA05538@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >>Does anyone really believe that we won't get nuclear fusion working within our children's lifetimes? Aren't you meaning cold fusion ? Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Fri Mar 30 08:05:35 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:05:35 +0200 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: <200103301200.NAA02788@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Mike, hi group, >Believe it or not though, there's *already* a group protesting nanotech >and incipient AI. Isn't there _always_ a group against something? Here in Germany for example there are activist groups who oppose wind power, because the "swoosh" of the rotor blades is too loud and will confuse birds! Or there's another group that pickets the local Max Planck-Institute every now and then because it is doing research in fusion technology (and fusion is Bad [TM] 'cause it meddles with nuclei and that stuff). *shaking head* (c)IAO D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 30 08:12:07 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:12:07 EST Subject: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc Message-ID: I'll add my name to those who would be interested in a reprinting of the NetHawks shirt. I didn't get in on the first run. I'm sure my wife would want one as well. Peace out all, Eli Friedman From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 08:39:44 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:39:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: Richard Stockwell's message of Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:30:24 +1200 Message-ID: Richard Stockwell writes: > >>Does anyone really believe that we won't get nuclear fusion working within > our children's lifetimes? > > Aren't you meaning cold fusion ? Nah, I like mine hot, in a magnetic jar - just like on the front of the Quark album. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 09:01:08 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:01:08 +0100 Subject: FAO: Mr Dawson. Message-ID: That's a great site you got there with the piccies and details of Hawkwind releases. It'd be good if we could all get together and send scans and info to fill in the gaps... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 09:11:48 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:11:48 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD In-Reply-To: Kevin Sommers's message of Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:17:05 -0700 Message-ID: Kevin Sommers writes: > 'Hawkwind - 3 Originals' (Castle CLA BX 911) CONTAINS 'Live 79' 'Levitation' > and 'Space Bandits' > Is that the one? Got it: There was a 3CD Castle "Anthology" box - confusingly not the same Anthology set which appears in various guises and box sets as "Anthology", "Approved History" and "Acid Daze". P.S: Anyone know what the double LP and double CD Live '79/Levitation title was? Was this just "Two Originals" or am I kidding myself? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 09:19:43 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:19:43 +0100 Subject: Gong 25th Anniversary CD set Message-ID: Does anyone know if there are any Tim Blake solo tracks on this? FoFP From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 09:30:24 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:30:24 +0100 Subject: HW: IRC LIVE Message-ID: I gotta go home. I'm only on here when I'm at work. And Friday is the only day I get to go home early. I finish at 5. Gotta get home quick too cause I got lotsa stuff to do, I'm going to a ball tomorrow!! So, between now and then, I've got to try desparatly to try to make myself look like all the other toff students that are going. Otherwise pals will moan!!!! Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/30/01 12:43pm >>> awwwww - why not? MB ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: Re: HW: IRC LIVE > oh....poo!! > > Just got that thing downloaded yesterday, but I'll not be on anymore at 5:30. > > I wanted to have a go > > Nuts. > > > Layla. > > > > >>> hw at CY-B.ORG 03/29/01 11:16pm >>> > ++STAR WARRIORS > > Hawkwind will be talking LIVE on DALnet channel #Hawkwind.org.uk > at 17.30 GMT Tomorrow (Friday) Please see details on Mission Control > Updates page for how to log on. > > To get an IRC program visit www.mirc.com > > Mission Control is at www.hawkwind.org.uk > > ++MISSION ENDS From Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Mar 30 09:31:59 2001 From: Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE (Rainer Wangler) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:31:59 +0200 Subject: HW: Sonic Attack Message-ID: M Holmes schrieb: > Andreas Stuewe writes: > > > K Henderson wrote: > > > > > P.S. Why does this Japanese Live '79 have 15 tracks? Is this another > > > version of the Levitation/Live '79 package? I've got one of those, but > it's > > > two CD's in a double-wide carrier. (And I would've thought that would be a > > > few more than 15 tracks anyway.) > > > > It?s indeed another Levitation/Live `79 version, a single CD (75 min) > omitting > > Motorway City (the live version). > > Anyone know which label this is on? >I have a one on the Jap. Bronze label. Released in 1989 TECP- 18018 Rainer > FoFP From Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Mar 30 09:35:06 2001 From: Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE (Rainer Wangler) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:35:06 +0200 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD Message-ID: M Holmes schrieb: > Quite a few years ago there was a triple CD box set released. Can anyone > remember which 3 CDs were in this? > > FoFP Anthology 3 CD box from Castle ESBCD 168 1991 ????? From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 09:37:06 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:37:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Message-ID: TISH!!!!! I'll let you off with that one. At least you're remembering stuff, which is 1 million times better than a quick copy & paste!!! Layla >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 03/30/01 01:12pm >>> Layla Thompson writes: > you lot all seem to be very knowledgeable on this stuff. > > Congrats to you! (Unless of course you're just copying from the internet!!!) I'm copying it out of stuff I once read in books. Is that bad? > Layla. FoFP From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 09:39:45 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:39:45 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD Message-ID: Mike asked: >P.S: Anyone know what the double LP and double CD Live '79/Levitation >title was? Was this just "Two Originals" or am I kidding myself? Almost there. The CD is one of those double-jewel jobbies and has the legends "Hawkwind - Levitation" and "Hawkwind - Live" on the case spines as well as on the CDs themselves and the insert front. The latter also includes a "That's Original" logo. In other words, the two CDs are individually titled & there appears to be no overall title as such for the package. Hope this helps Dave From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Mar 30 09:37:00 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:37:00 +0100 Subject: HW: IRC LIVE Message-ID: Top fun - can we go?? Sam -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: 30 March 2001 15:30 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: IRC LIVE I gotta go home. I'm only on here when I'm at work. And Friday is the only day I get to go home early. I finish at 5. Gotta get home quick too cause I got lotsa stuff to do, I'm going to a ball tomorrow!! So, between now and then, I've got to try desparatly to try to make myself look like all the other toff students that are going. Otherwise pals will moan!!!! Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/30/01 12:43pm >>> awwwww - why not? MB ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: Re: HW: IRC LIVE > oh....poo!! > > Just got that thing downloaded yesterday, but I'll not be on anymore at 5:30. > > I wanted to have a go > > Nuts. > > > Layla. > > > > >>> hw at CY-B.ORG 03/29/01 11:16pm >>> > ++STAR WARRIORS > > Hawkwind will be talking LIVE on DALnet channel #Hawkwind.org.uk > at 17.30 GMT Tomorrow (Friday) Please see details on Mission Control > Updates page for how to log on. > > To get an IRC program visit www.mirc.com > > Mission Control is at www.hawkwind.org.uk > > ++MISSION ENDS *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Mar 30 09:42:21 2001 From: Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE (Rainer Wangler) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:42:21 +0200 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD Message-ID: Levitation + Live 1979 M Holmes schrieb: > Kevin Sommers writes: > > > 'Hawkwind - 3 Originals' (Castle CLA BX 911) CONTAINS 'Live 79' 'Levitation' > > and 'Space Bandits' > > Is that the one? > > Got it: There was a 3CD Castle "Anthology" box - confusingly not the > same Anthology set which appears in various guises and box sets as > "Anthology", "Approved History" and "Acid Daze". > > P.S: Anyone know what the double LP and double CD Live '79/Levitation > title was? Was this just "Two Originals" or am I kidding myself? > > FoFP From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Mar 30 09:43:50 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:43:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: ooo. sounds very philosophical. Layla >>> freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU 03/30/01 12:57pm >>> Yep. Plus the fact of wanton destruction of old growth forests don't help much. Already weeds are writing scriptures in the sand. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 1:52 AM Subject: Re: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! > Touchy!! > > > Have to say that I am 100% on your side though. > > Anyone who truly thinks that global warming is fiction is either incredibly selfish, or incredibly stupid. > > > Layla > > >>> bart at ENGAGE.NU 03/29/01 05:40pm >>> > On 29 Mar 2001, at 10:42, Dan Witt wrote: > > > No offense, but Global Warming is fiction. > > Yes, u do offend me. > > but, hey keep yr eyes closed and kill the Third World > > (cause they suffer most from climate change!) > > --BArt > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 10:22:56 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:22:56 -0500 Subject: Careful use of the saxophone Message-ID: I have found most of Nik's playing since about 1978 to be irksome at best and downright awful at times! Jez is a really good sax player, far more controlled than Nik, and he does play the flute (he played it at the Astoria). Colin From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Mar 30 10:31:25 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:31:25 -0600 Subject: Careful use of the saxophone Message-ID: Thats crazy NIK is a sax GOD. His crazy style is what makes him unique. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen [mailto:colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:23 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Careful use of the saxophone I have found most of Nik's playing since about 1978 to be irksome at best and downright awful at times! Jez is a really good sax player, far more controlled than Nik, and he does play the flute (he played it at the Astoria). Colin From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Mar 30 10:38:08 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:38:08 +0100 Subject: Careful use of the saxophone In-Reply-To: <200103301522.KAA26890@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Colin Allen wrote: > I have found most of Nik's playing since about 1978 to be irksome at best > and downright awful at times! Jez is a really good sax player, far more > controlled than Nik, and he does play the flute (he played it at the > Astoria). He played it at Croydon. And yes, he is good. I'm just not entirely convinced that he fits in as well as he might. He did at the Astoria better than at Croydon, and I think this is becaus ethey decided they nededed to make more use of him. I could be wrong though. I don;t think anyone's disupting that Nik's playing could be irksome, but he has a style which seems more in keeping somehow. Not that I'm suggesting a return of Nik, really. Kirsten From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Fri Mar 30 10:54:02 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:54:02 -0700 Subject: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc Message-ID: I could use one, maybe two myself:) Pam Eli Friedman wrote: > I'll add my name to those who would be interested in a reprinting of the > NetHawks shirt. I didn't get in on the first run. I'm sure my wife would want > one as well. Peace out all, > Eli Friedman -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Hi Mike. I don't have it in front of me, but I'm fairly certain that there is not a solo Blake piece per se on the Gong Birthday double CD. On the other hand there are a bunch of instrumental sections from the trilogy albums that are quite synthesizer dominated, and the CD opens, (after an intro by Thom the Poet) with a synth dominated instrumental called I believe "Floating Into A Birthday Gig." The 2nd CD starts with a remake of "Sprinkling of Clouds" called "Clouds Again" which I thought was really very good. If you like Tim's playing it is very well showcased on this set, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't take a solo turn. I actually think that they're all very much band tracks. Hope that helps. Yours, Eli From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Mar 30 11:00:08 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:00:08 -0600 Subject: chat Message-ID: hey gang, come chat. irc (dal.net), channel #hawkwind.org.uk Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Mar 30 10:51:35 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:51:35 -0500 Subject: Gong 25th Anniversary CD set Message-ID: >Does anyone know if there are any Tim Blake solo tracks on this? The old one? No, I'm sure that's all Gong proper. But there was always supposed to be a followup disc (or two) that was to be a compilation of all the other Gong-related acts that played that weekend. But it never showed up. Guess it's too late now. :( Grakkl (FAA) From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 11:06:13 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:06:13 -0500 Subject: Careful use of the saxophone Message-ID: > He played it at Croydon. You're right! He did; I had forgotten. >And yes, he is good. I'm just not entirely >convinced that he fits in as well as he might. He did at the Astoria >better than at Croydon, and I think this is because they decided they >nededed to make more use of him. I could be wrong though. I agree with fitting in better at the Astoria. >I don;t think anyone's disupting that Nik's playing could be irksome, >but he has a style which seems more in keeping somehow. Not that I'm >suggesting a return of Nik, really. Given HW's many changes over the decades, Jez will find his niche and fit in just fine! > Kirsten From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 11:07:50 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:07:50 -0500 Subject: Careful use of the saxophone Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:31:25 -0600, Stephen Lindas wrote: >Thats crazy NIK is a sax GOD. His crazy style is what makes him unique. >STEPHE Unique....Yes. God.......I am an atheist! From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 11:23:23 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:23:23 -0500 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:52:12 -0500, Mark Von Bargen wrote: >But then the might Liverpool Football Club would be 200 miles away. >Life is tuff! Hey, I frequently make that 400 mile round trip to worship at the boots of Michael Owen (and Ian Rush before him, and Kenny Dalglish before him, and Kevin Keegan before him!). Colin From micci at SCI.FI Fri Mar 30 11:26:42 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:26:42 +0300 Subject: OFF: The Spacious Mind Message-ID: Hi! >Chameleon and Holy River Family Band are related, and I think there's one >more act from that family, can't remember the name. >Grakkl (FAA) There is more: The Brotherhood of Eternal Love- Green Morning Baby (GRCD 025) Cauldron- The Sanctuary Suit (The Wild Places Wild006) Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From micci at SCI.FI Fri Mar 30 11:26:49 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:26:49 +0300 Subject: NIK,OFF: Dark Sun Ice Ritual/ Scandinavian Space Message-ID: >I've got to get that new Dark Sun CD. Loved _Feed Your Mind_. Do >they have any other releases? Yes and No. Cassettes are: 1993 DEMO "IN THE COPPER BEAMS OF A SUNSET ANDROID MEETS THE AION" , BOOKLET 1993 DEMO "MACHINE LOVER" , BOOKLET 1995 DEMO "LIVE AT KAISANIEMI" 1995 DEMO "DARK SUN"; HAWKWIND SONGS: ASSAULT & BATTERY, GOLDEN VOID, RIGHT STUFF Lone gone. Dont ask, I don?t sell them. cd-r Electric Dreams promo. 2 different versions; 2 or 3 song (not available, don?t ask). Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From micci at SCI.FI Fri Mar 30 11:34:13 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:34:13 +0300 Subject: HW:FinnWind Message-ID: Hi! If somebody is interested here is info: Annual subscription 26 EUROS includes newsletters plus 1 t-shirt. No cheques, no IMOs, send only well hidden cash. Newsletters etc. in finnish (sorry!) English summary only at website (coming!) Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind Box 67, 00531 Helsinki Finland- Europe E- Mail: finn.wind at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Mar 30 11:55:02 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:55:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: <200103301211.NAA05538@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, M Holmes wrote: => Does anyone really believe that we won't get nuclear fusion working => within our children's lifetimes? I thought we already had! Mind you, the energy of a hydrogen bomb is a little difficult to direct for constructive purposes... ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Mar 30 11:58:57 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:58:57 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD In-Reply-To: <200103301411.PAA18641@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: It's hard to say what the title was...the cover says: 'That's Original Hawkwind Levitation Hawkwind Live 2 Great Albums For The Price Of 1' KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:12 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkwind triple CD Kevin Sommers writes: > 'Hawkwind - 3 Originals' (Castle CLA BX 911) CONTAINS 'Live 79' 'Levitation' > and 'Space Bandits' > Is that the one? Got it: There was a 3CD Castle "Anthology" box - confusingly not the same Anthology set which appears in various guises and box sets as "Anthology", "Approved History" and "Acid Daze". P.S: Anyone know what the double LP and double CD Live '79/Levitation title was? Was this just "Two Originals" or am I kidding myself? FoFP From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Mar 30 12:10:04 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:10:04 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD In-Reply-To: <200103301139.MAA25366@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Errm, kind of three red, segmented grids coming from (going to?) a vanishing point, with a couple of twisty curved grids floating amongst them, and with a spacesuit helmet (?) with strange hieroglyphics on it streaking out of the leading edge of the front grid sweeping behind it a series of random equation segments and variables.; then in the lower right corner is an ancient-looking scroll which says '3 Originals.' Is that it? KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 4:40 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkwind triple CD Kevin Sommers writes: > > Quite a few years ago there was a triple CD box set released. Can anyone > remember which 3 CDs were in this? > 'Hawkwind - 3 Originals' (Castle CLA BX 911) CONTAINS 'Live 79' 'Levitation' > and 'Space Bandits' > Is that the one? Not sure. Did the box have a grid on it? FoFP From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Fri Mar 30 12:21:46 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:21:46 -0500 Subject: autographed cd giveaway!!! Message-ID: Hello friends, An mp3 station which will only be online for three days, is offering an autographed copy of Sloterdijk's "Integration" CD. I know this is legitimate, because I provided the disc several months ago..If you want to take a chance on winning it, go to: www.mp3.com/stations/promo-play or go to www.mp3.com/sloterdijk, select "fan stations", and choose Promo-Play I'd be interested to find out who the winner is: Peace, Mike www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 12:31:21 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:31:21 +0100 Subject: chat Message-ID: cheers to the band for putting up with a barrage of questions! that was cool!!! Learned that baby doc has remixed "masters of the universe" and that william orbit has approched the band to do some remixing too!!! also some free festival appearances for the summer are planned!!!! the futures looking bright!!! colm ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: 30 March 2001 17:00 Subject: chat > hey gang, > > come chat. > > irc (dal.net), channel #hawkwind.org.uk > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Mar 30 12:36:09 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:36:09 -0500 Subject: HW: IRC LIVE In-Reply-To: <200103292216.RAA18499@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Rik Rx wrote: => ++STAR WARRIORS => => Hawkwind will be talking LIVE on DALnet channel #Hawkwind.org.uk => at 17.30 GMT Tomorrow (Friday) Please see details on Mission Control => Updates page for how to log on. => => To get an IRC program visit www.mirc.com => => Mission Control is at www.hawkwind.org.uk => => ++MISSION ENDS I'd love to be there, but at 1730 GMT I will have had Gov't Mule kicking my ASS for about half an hour at Ziggy's in Winston-Salem, NC!! I hope the Hawkwind IRC chat is not a one-off, and I can perhaps catch the next one. By all accounts, last night's tour opener by the Mule was a real solid two sets of mostly Mule material and familiar covers, letting us know that this is Gov't Mule, and not some project/supergroup of Warren + Matt + Dave + Chuck. Someone at the gig was on a cell phone phoning his wife the setlist as it unfolded who, in turn, e-mailed it to the mailing list as she got it. Someone else has digital pics up of the gig today. Talk about up to date information! (Croydon attendees take note.;) :-) I have to say it's odd to see a Fender bass on stage at a Gov't Mule show, but, then again, this is the New School of Gov't Mule... :-) I can't wait for Ziggy's tonight! Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Fri Mar 30 12:38:49 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:38:49 +0200 Subject: chat In-Reply-To: <008101c0b93f$3d6e7060$7a5d893e@bedroomt> Message-ID: Hi, >cheers to the band for putting up with a barrage of questions! >that was cool!!! Learned that baby doc has remixed "masters of the universe" >and that william orbit has approched the band to do some remixing too!!! >also some free festival appearances for the summer are planned!!!! >the futures looking bright!!! As I'm behind a f#cking firewall I couldn't take part in that chat session. Will there be a chat-script available any time soon? (c)IAO D'interested'+R From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Mar 30 12:42:49 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:42:49 -0500 Subject: HW: IRC LIVE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Paul Mather wrote: => I'd love to be there, but at 1730 GMT I will have had Gov't Mule kicking => my ASS for about half an hour at Ziggy's in Winston-Salem, NC!! I hope => the Hawkwind IRC chat is not a one-off, and I can perhaps catch the next => one. Paul should wait until he's had more coffee before he posts. :-) Despite phoning the UK quite regularly, and having to deal with the 5 hour time shift, he seems to have mixed his +/- here. Oh well, missed this one, hope to catch the next one! Did any one keep a transcript (Arin??). Still looking forward to Ziggy's, though. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Mar 30 12:38:40 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:38:40 -0500 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Message-ID: Mike said... >> and even if it were true that the ice caps will melt, etc, why would that >> cause flooding, necessarily? when the ice in a glass of icewater melts,the >> glass doesn't overflow; the 'new' water takes up (nearly) the same space as >> the ice that it used to be...did. > >Good analysis but I have Bad News: while the arctic ice is sea ice, Incidentally, and coincidentally, it was just recently discovered (published in Nature just this past week, actually) that the Arctic 'sea ice' (~3m thick) was effectively replaced by a massive floating 'ice sheet' (I don't think we have a name for this sort of structure actually) of roughly 1 km thickness as recently as the last 'ice age' (perhaps 60-80K or so?). Ice grounding features from the Lomonosov Ridge discovered here (upstairs actually) indicate that the northern extent of the Canadian Archipelago ice must have produced some sort of 'runaway' ice shelf that extended all the way across the Arctic Ocean basin (or at least halfway). Must've made for some impressive icebergs in the Fram Strait. I don't know any more details than that. I haven't even seen the article - I'm just going by what Leonid (the lead author) told me a year ago. My suspicion is that it would not have been an influence on eustatic sea level changes, as even though it would have been 'attached' to land-based ice, it would still have been supported moreso by buoyant forces atop another km or two of liquid water. But then physics was never my strong suit... Of course, I imagine that this evidence will be used to argue even more strongly for the new popular concept of the 'snowball' Earth, which some researchers have suggested occurred just before the Cambrian Explosion (of new lifeforms). >most of the antarctic ice is on a shelf 'Shelf' meaning land I assume you mean. An ice shelf is a whole other ballgame. >What happens if you have a full glass with ice on a soap dish above it, and >then you melt the ice? The water tastes like crap from all the soap scum. Grakkl (FAA) From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 13:06:42 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:06:42 +0100 Subject: HW: IRC chat & the Hawkestra Message-ID: Nice to chat with the band there for a while there. Some interesting stuff as Colm has already posted. But surprised to hear (read ?) Dave say that the band don't have the tapes from the Hawkestra and that they haven't even been paid for the gig. I think maybe we can kiss goodbye to that triple live CD/DVD Hawkestra experience. Cynics might say that they knew this would happen all along............. A great pity. It may not have been the most musically satisfying HW recording ever (tho' there are some stunning moments in the bits I've heard recently), but as a record of an awesome one-off event, it would have been essential. I hope they can resolve whatever differences there are. Dave From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Mar 30 13:22:46 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:52:46 +0930 Subject: chat Message-ID: yes ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Regenbrecht To: Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 3:08 AM Subject: Re: chat > Hi, > > >cheers to the band for putting up with a barrage of questions! > >that was cool!!! Learned that baby doc has remixed "masters of the universe" > >and that william orbit has approched the band to do some remixing too!!! > >also some free festival appearances for the summer are planned!!!! > >the futures looking bright!!! > > As I'm behind a f#cking firewall I couldn't take part in that chat session. > Will there be a chat-script available any time soon? > > (c)IAO > > D'interested'+R > From coral at APORT.RU Fri Mar 30 13:25:53 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:25:53 +0400 Subject: HW: url to IRC chat log Message-ID: Hello! This is the url to the site with IRC chat log, unedited. cheers, Alissa From coral at APORT.RU Fri Mar 30 13:28:53 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:28:53 +0400 Subject: HW: url to IRC chat log! Message-ID: Hello! This is the url to the site with IRC chat log, unedited. http://hawkwind.newmail.ru/ cheers, Alissa P.S. Sorry, forgot to include the url last time :). From Mariej at BIGWIG.NET Fri Mar 30 13:28:36 2001 From: Mariej at BIGWIG.NET (Marie Jenkinson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:28:36 +0100 Subject: HW:Leeds support change Message-ID: Late news from Mr Dibs: The support band for the Leeds Irish Centre gig has been changed from Bedouin to Spacehead. It will be a thinned down Spacehead consisting of Mr Dibs, Martyn Hasbeen and Craig Dewberry (although Craig is the only thinned down member of these three!) Bedouin are still the support for Aldershot and Nottingham AFAIK. Marie, now recovered from great night in Croydon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Mar 30 13:58:51 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:58:51 -0600 Subject: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc In-Reply-To: <200103301143.MAA26883@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, M Holmes wrote: :Subject: Re: a groovy badge for all pre concert gatherings etc : :> :We did T-shirts several years ago. Maybe it's time for another :> :run? :> :> Yes! I didn't manage to get a shirt, and keep eyeing the ones I've :> seen Jill and Mike wear ;-) : :I could check with the shop to see if they still have the screens. I :could use a couple of fresh ones anyway. I'd also wondered whether doing :black on white would be good. might work nicely, but the white on black looks quite good as well..... Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Fri Mar 30 14:35:06 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:35:06 +0200 Subject: HW: url to IRC chat log! In-Reply-To: <001d01c0b947$46aaf740$6904efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: Hi, >This is the url to the site with IRC chat log, unedited. >http://hawkwind.newmail.ru/ >cheers, >Alissa >P.S. Sorry, forgot to include the url last time :). Thanks a lot Alissa (or better: bolshoje spasibo)! (c)IAO D'5 years of Russian in school '+R From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Mar 30 14:50:05 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:50:05 -0500 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:49:20 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >Douglas Pearson writes: >> Florida didn't hand the election to Bush like it was "supposed" to > >I thought it did? Uh, no. It was the Supreme Court who had to step in to tell Florida to. Remember? Florida *might* have, if it had the chance to (re-)count everything properly (or, it might not have, depending on how the count went), which is of course what they should have done from the start ... >I'm sure you'll install better equipment by next time. They'd better, since at least one of the newspaper-recount-consortiums is *still* counting. >The option will >be to hear Hilary Clinton whining on TV for 53 days. The rest of us >would all rather get together and nuke you rather than face that. Actually, one of the current simmering-under-the-headlines news stories is how ever since she assumed office, we've hardly heard a peep from her. Definitely a good thing if it's saving us from nuclear destruction (not that I could really blame the nuke perps in that case)! >> and Florida would be the first state in the USA to be >> *catastrophically* affected by the effects of global warming ... >> ... Sounds like payback time to me! > >People in glass houses Doug: would the last person to leave California >please switch out the lights :-) Just one more area in which it's post-election payback time ;^) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Mar 30 15:04:53 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:04:53 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind triple CD Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:34:44 -0500, ejobson wrote: >Just realised mine are vinyl not disk, but the interview's good anyway. Aha. That identifies it. It was the triple LP box that Flicknife put out. I don't have it, so I don't remember what the other two LP's were (previously-released Flicknife stuff, maybe 'Out and Intake' or CotBS or 'Zones'?). Yeah, it's a pretty good interview of Dave Brock by Brian Tawn (with, I think, Kris and Frenchy Flicknife in the background). AFAIK, the only place the interview LP has been released on CD is on the Cleopatra/Purple Pyramid 'Golden Void' double-CD (which also compiles the "Hurry On Sundown", "Valium Ten", Sonic Assassins & 'Night of the Hawk/Earth Ritual Preview' 12"EP's, and a few miscellaneous Hawkwind/Hawklords tracks from 'Friends & Relations' vol.1 & 2). Not the same as the triple CD Mike was originally asking about ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of ejobson >Sent: 30 March 2001 10:23 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Hawkwind triple CD > >I think I've got this one. I remember one of the disks was a Dave Brock >interview, think the other two were compilations of some sort. > >Eddie. > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of M Holmes >Sent: 29 March 2001 12:49 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Hawkwind triple CD > > >Quite a few years ago there was a triple CD box set released. Can anyone >remember which 3 CDs were in this? > >FoFP From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Mar 30 16:37:20 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:37:20 +0100 Subject: Gong 25th Anniversary CD set Message-ID: Not on the original. Theyre doing a second vol with all the support acts on which theyre compiling at the minute. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:19 PM Subject: Gong 25th Anniversary CD set > Does anyone know if there are any Tim Blake solo tracks on this? > > FoFP > From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Mar 30 16:38:49 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:38:49 -0500 Subject: HW: IRC Chatlog (Edited) Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS An edited version of the first IRC HawkChat is available on Mission Control Updates Page > www.hawkwind.org.uk Thanks to all those who participated ++MESSAGE ENDS From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Mar 30 18:07:22 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:07:22 +0100 Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases Message-ID: I see that www.strange-trips.com have some new releases - Harvey live 2000, Anubian Lights live '99, and Farflung & Nik live at Strange Daze '99. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From coral at APORT.RU Fri Mar 30 18:06:29 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:06:29 +0400 Subject: HW: url to IRC chat log! Message-ID: > D'5 years of Russian in school '+R Wow! And you still remember something? :) Alissa From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Fri Mar 30 18:54:06 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:54:06 +0100 Subject: William Orbit/Hawkwind Message-ID: I am so excited about the prospect of William Orbit doing some remix work with HW. The future certainly is brighter! mel From kruch7 at HOME.COM Fri Mar 30 18:48:47 2001 From: kruch7 at HOME.COM (Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:48:47 -0500 Subject: Fw: [gygax_talk] russ taylor Message-ID: Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you. > Sorry, only found one URL on global warming, related to the claim that > increase evaporation would lower sea level: > > --- > Atmospheric water content is not much of an issue, because of the > following rough proportions: > > Water in the air: > 1 part > > Water in the glaciers and ice caps: > 1,900 parts > > Water in the ground and on land masses, other than the above: > 660 parts > > Water in the oceans: > 100,000 parts > > Another tidbit for you, from http://wwwga.usgs.gov/edu/earthhowmuch.html: > > The total water supply of the world is 326 million cubic miles (a cubic > mile is an imaginary cube (a square box) measuring one mile on each > side). A cubic mileof water equals more than one trillion gallons. > > About 3,100 cubic miles of water, mostly in the form of water vapor, is > in the atmosphere at any one time. If it all fell as precipitation at > once, the Earth would be covered with only about 1 inch of water. > --- > > > > -- > Russ Taylor (http://www.cmc.net/~rtaylor/) > CMC Tech Support Manager > > "OK, if you guys are so evil, why don't you just...EAT THIS KITTEN!" > From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Fri Mar 30 23:49:14 2001 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:49:14 -0800 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Paul I do believe that nucleur fusion is ultimately the answer for large scale energy needs. As a weird twist of fate, that's what I wrote my freshman thesis-thingie on -fusion by laser implosion- when I was a physics major at your same institution (VATECH). This was MANY moons ago, and according to the plans at the time, should have been a reality by now. hehehe. For all interested, some links I dug up lately: Try http://fusedweb.pppl.gov/ for US gov sponsored info and http://www.sierraclub.org/policy/conservation/nuc%2Dpower.asp for the opposing view BTW, the half-life of tritium is really not all that bad, 12 years. Just got to be careful with it. As always, I must warn, don't try this at home. At 11:55 AM 3/30/01 -0500, you wrote: >On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, M Holmes wrote: > >=> Does anyone really believe that we won't get nuclear fusion working >=> within our children's lifetimes? > >I thought we already had! Mind you, the energy of a hydrogen bomb is a >little difficult to direct for constructive purposes... ;-) > >Cheers, > >Paul. > >e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > >"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Fri Mar 30 21:15:56 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:15:56 -0600 Subject: Fw: Hawkwind Message-ID: Hey, check this out -- I bid on a Hawkwind video ("Night of the Hawks" -- ebay Item #1418898350) on ebay, and a couple days later I got this email from another person completely. The auction hasn't closed yet, and I've been outbid so I'm glad I got this warning before I went back to rebid... Take it for what it's worth, as I can't verify the accuracy of the statements below. Sounds scary, though, as I certainly don't condone the sale of non-official Hawkwind items. Bryan Young ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 3:31 PM Subject: Hawkwind > Just a friendly warning. The seller peng8378 is selling low quality bootleg > videos and not originals as he claims. He has been suspended from ebay over > 14 different times for selling copied tapes each time with a different screen > name. Every time he gets suspended, he creates a new account and comes back > to rip off a few more honest members. The quality is terrible as I have > gotten videos from him in the past. He also scans covers from other peoples > auctions and makes homemade video covers out of them. > For proof go to yahoo.com and hit yahoo auctions. Then highlight advanced > search and highlight seller search. Type in myvideocollection as the seller > and read his feedback profile. This is the same guy. He uses several > different names as well. His real name is Tony Giannone. He also goes by Lou > Gian and has also used female names as well. He is a real con-man. > He is suspended from selling in the U.S., so now he sells in the UK. Why > else would a person from the U.S. sell items out of the UK? I hope that you > research this information so you are not ripped off by this person. There is > a group of about 20 of us that watch out for this guy. Whenever we find a new > account we warn other bidders. > > Thanks for your time, > Ruth > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Mar 31 03:28:37 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:28:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: <4.1.20010330203740.02d87e00@mail.hypernova.net> Message-ID: At 20:49 -0800 30.3.2001, dhuggins wrote: >BTW, the half-life of tritium is really not all that bad, 12 years. Just >got to be careful with it. As always, I must warn, don't try this at home. Darn -- and I was just about to heat up some coffee with my tritium! :) Cheers, Carl ObCD: Spiritual Beggars, _Another Way to Shine_ -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 03:38:06 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:38:06 +0100 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D904AAA60B@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: In article <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D904AAA60B at mast- lu0-se02.private.ntl.com>, Sam Kirwan writes >That's major cool - can we hold huge parties in them?? > >Sam The Post Office tunnels used to be so easy to get into, The New Statesmen magazine held their Christmas Party down there, in 1983. -- Jon From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sat Mar 31 05:26:27 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:26:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Beehive identity parade! Message-ID: Hi, So, who actually appeared on Ch4's Top 10 prog during their Beehive footage? I recognised Bob Paterson but no-one else. Of the unmost unimportance, just idly curious! Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Mar 31 05:42:38 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:42:38 +0100 Subject: HW: url to IRC chat log! In-Reply-To: <001d01c0b947$46aaf740$6904efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: In message <001d01c0b947$46aaf740$6904efc3 at ghostwheel2>, Alissa writes >Hello! > >This is the url to the site with IRC chat log, unedited. > >http://hawkwind.newmail.ru/ > >cheers, >Alissa > >P.S. Sorry, forgot to include the url last time :). Thanks for posting this! I was at work and couldn't join in. Mind you it looks like it was enough of a task for the band to juggle the barrage of questions as it was. Well done Arin for restoring some order in the ranks. I was struck by Jerry's comment "we would like to do both S&M" - only when I re-read it did I realise he was referring to Sydney and Melbourne... and there was me thinking it had something to do with the kiss of the velvet whip. Ahem. -- Nick Medford From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat Mar 31 06:27:17 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:27:17 +0200 Subject: HW: Beehive identity parade! In-Reply-To: <010301c0b9cd$22673fc0$f603883e@jezd> Message-ID: Hu At 11:26 31.03.2001 +0100, you wrote: >So, who actually appeared on Ch4's Top 10 prog during their >Beehive footage? >I recognised Bob Paterson but no-one else. I could identify the sister from Denis Regenbrecht and Jim Lascko Bernhard From haystack at ALLTEL.NET Sat Mar 31 06:35:34 2001 From: haystack at ALLTEL.NET (Steve Hayes) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 06:35:34 -0500 Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases Message-ID: These "releases" are hodgepodge recordings compiled by strangetrips, from sound board tapes, "mastered" sometimes unsatisfactorily by strangetrips, and released on cdr....can you say bootleg? these should be aquired through trading not buying!!!in my humble opinion! From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Sat Mar 31 07:15:46 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:15:46 +0200 Subject: HW: url to IRC chat log! In-Reply-To: <000901c0b96e$179bc700$4d44efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: Hi, > >D'5 years of Russian in school '+R > >Wow! And you still remember something? :) Not very much (my last Russian lesson was 6 years ago), but there's one word I'll never forget [again in bad transcrition]: dostoprimetshatjelnost' (that's "sight" for all non-Russian-speakers ). (c)IAO D+R From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Sat Mar 31 07:08:54 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:08:54 +0200 Subject: HW: Beehive identity parade! In-Reply-To: <200103311127.NAA16007@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: Hi, >I could identify the sister from Denis Regenbrecht and Jim Lascko CooL! I definitively need a copy of that show! (c)IAO D+R From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Mar 31 07:44:58 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:44:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozrics in Record Collector Message-ID: Ozrics Have an Interview and Discography in record Collector this month, nice big feature. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mather" To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 6:42 PM Subject: Re: HW: IRC LIVE > On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Paul Mather wrote: > > => I'd love to be there, but at 1730 GMT I will have had Gov't Mule kicking > => my ASS for about half an hour at Ziggy's in Winston-Salem, NC!! I hope > => the Hawkwind IRC chat is not a one-off, and I can perhaps catch the next > => one. > > Paul should wait until he's had more coffee before he posts. :-) > Despite phoning the UK quite regularly, and having to deal with the 5 > hour time shift, he seems to have mixed his +/- here. > > Oh well, missed this one, hope to catch the next one! Did any one keep > a transcript (Arin??). > > Still looking forward to Ziggy's, though. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Sat Mar 31 07:44:26 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 06:44:26 -0600 Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases Message-ID: I have each one of those and they are great quality.The sound is fantastic as well as the artwork. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 5:07 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases I see that www.strange-trips.com have some new releases - Harvey live 2000, Anubian Lights live '99, and Farflung & Nik live at Strange Daze '99. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat Mar 31 09:05:13 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:05:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Beehive identity parade! In-Reply-To: Bernhard Pospiech's message of Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:27:17 +0200 Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech writes: > Hu > > At 11:26 31.03.2001 +0100, you wrote: > >So, who actually appeared on Ch4's Top 10 prog during their >Beehive footage? > >I recognised Bob Paterson but no-one else. Andy G was seen sitting at one of the tables. Jim Lascko was there with the old geezer who befriended us on exiting the loos. FoFP From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 31 09:10:35 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:10:35 EST Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases Message-ID: Hi Everybody. Happy Saturday (I'll hope.) Below I've reprinted 2 different responses from this morning to Andy Gilham's request for feedback on the 3 new live Strange Trips releases on CDR. The first response came from Steve Hayes (haystack) apparently and I'm pleased for him that Steve managed to ID his response as just his "humble opinion" as opposed to his UNBIASED opinion. Anyway, my biased opinion, since I'm friends with Jim Lascko, is more aligned with the response printed below from Stephe. I think all 3 releases: Farflung with Nik Turner, Anubian Lights with Nik Turner, and the solo Harvey Bainbridge set, are classic sets of live music taken from crisp soundboard recordings and remastered with great care. I don't think any fan would be disappointed with them on the basis of sound quality. Yes they're "live", but the sound is excellent in all cases. I also thought that the packaging on all 3 was really attractive. Where else have fans been offered the opportunity to obtain high quality live sets by these 3 acts? Knowing Jim and his ethics, the way that I do, I'm sure that all the artists involved have consented to these releases, and will share in any profits from them. That doesn't sound like a "bootleg" to me. All 3 releases represent, as far as I'm concerned, some of the peak performances from America's premier space rock festival. Anybody that enjoyed any of Nik's live Cleopatra releases in the 90's will love the Nik and Farflung set. I should mention that the beginning of Farflung's set is material without Nik, and is really awesome live renditions of some great Farflung material. That's my humble, biased opinion. These 3 are great. If you like Harvey, if you like Nik, if you like Farflung you will love these. I wouldn't wait for the major label release though. Get them from Strange Trips. With bias and malice aforethought, love Eli Friedman In a message dated 3/31/01 6:46:11 AM, haystack at ALLTEL.NET writes: << These "releases" are hodgepodge recordings compiled by strangetrips, from sound board tapes, "mastered" sometimes unsatisfactorily by strangetrips, and released on cdr....can you say bootleg? these should be aquired through trading not buying!!!in my humble opinion! >> In a message dated 3/31/01 7:47:40 AM, LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << I have each one of those and they are great quality.The sound is fantastic as well as the artwork. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 5:07 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases I see that www.strange-trips.com have some new releases - Harvey live 2000, Anubian Lights live '99, and Farflung & Nik live at Strange Daze '99. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat Mar 31 09:13:10 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:13:10 +0200 Subject: HW: Beehive identity parade! In-Reply-To: <200103311405.PAA18693@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi At 15:05 31.03.2001 +0100, you wrote: >> >So, who actually appeared on Ch4's Top 10 prog during their >Beehive footage? >> >I recognised Bob Paterson but no-one else. > >Andy G was seen sitting at one of the tables. Jim Lascko was there with >the old geezer who befriended us on exiting the loos. Yeah, and there was MICHAEL BLACKMAN from OZ Bernhard From coral at APORT.RU Sat Mar 31 09:15:23 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:15:23 +0400 Subject: HW: happy day - SpaceBrock Message-ID: Hello! Yesterday was a very happy evening - I've talked to the best band on IRC! And today is also a happy day - I received Spacebrock album! Listening to it now. Well, first of all - it's a very good album. The second - I will consider it HAWKWIND album as I think about The Church Of Hawkwind. They are both based on Brock solo stuff and they are both Hawkwind anyway. And they are both excellent! I have question - in the booklet (BTW this booklet is really good! Not common thing in Hawkwind albums) it's says "Hawkman - Bass, Violin", who is it? Is it another Dave's incarnation like Dr. Technical, etc.? cheers, Alissa From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 31 09:41:16 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:41:16 EST Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases Message-ID: Dear Folks, I was in error about something in my previous post about the new trio of Strange Trips live releases. I suggested that they were all live from the Strange Daze festival, and in looking over the packaging, I can see that I was wrong about that. Instead they are live from various club shows, from the tours that the respective artists did right around the time of their Strange Daze appearances, and with sets very similar to those played at the festival itself. That's what mixed me up. Sorry for the confusion. They're still great. You still want them. Yours , Eli From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 31 10:33:47 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 01:03:47 +0930 Subject: HW: Beehive identity parade! Message-ID: I was in it - I was eating "something" :) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: J D To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 7:56 PM Subject: HW: Beehive identity parade! Hi, So, who actually appeared on Ch4's Top 10 prog during their Beehive footage? I recognised Bob Paterson but no-one else. Of the unmost unimportance, just idly curious! Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 31 10:36:36 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 01:06:36 +0930 Subject: HW: url to IRC chat log! Message-ID: It can be difficult for everyone - you have to consider lag time , typing time, thinking time, the excitement etc Its not quite the same as a conversation at the coffee table..... Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 8:12 PM Subject: Re: HW: url to IRC chat log! > In message <001d01c0b947$46aaf740$6904efc3 at ghostwheel2>, Alissa > writes > >Hello! > > > >This is the url to the site with IRC chat log, unedited. > > > >http://hawkwind.newmail.ru/ > > > >cheers, > >Alissa > > > >P.S. Sorry, forgot to include the url last time :). > > Thanks for posting this! I was at work and couldn't join in. Mind you it > looks like it was enough of a task for the band to juggle the barrage of > questions as it was. Well done Arin for restoring some order in the ranks. > > I was struck by Jerry's comment "we would like to do both S&M" - only > when I re-read it did I realise he was referring to Sydney and Melbourne... > and there was me thinking it had something to do with the kiss of the > velvet whip. Ahem. > -- > Nick Medford > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 31 10:48:03 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 01:18:03 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind a big thankyou Message-ID: A huge THANKYOU to: RikRx Kris Tait Dave Brock Alan Davey Richard Chadwick Ron Tree Jeremy Richards Arin Komins and all you fellow chatters at the IRC link up last night (Friday) Extra special thanks to the BAND for taking the time, after rehearsal, to answer our questions!!! As fast and furious, at times, as they were!!! Extra special thanks to Kris & Rik for the organisation Extra special thanks to Arin Komins for keeping us all in line!! :>) I hope there hasn't been anyone left out? Sincerely Michael Blackman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From novadrive at HOME.COM Sat Mar 31 11:05:40 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:05:40 -0700 Subject: Beehive identity parade! In-Reply-To: <010301c0b9cd$22673fc0$f603883e@jezd> Message-ID: And immediately after Michael B eating something, is my shirt, with my head cropped for purposes of not scaring the kiddies....although could I look scarier than Nik? KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of J D Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 3:26 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Beehive identity parade! Hi, So, who actually appeared on Ch4's Top 10 prog during their Beehive footage? I recognised Bob Paterson but no-one else. Of the unmost unimportance, just idly curious! Jez From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sat Mar 31 11:14:36 2001 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:14:36 +0200 Subject: HW: Sonic Attack Message-ID: > > It?s indeed another Levitation/Live `79 version, a single CD (75 min) > omitting > > Motorway City (the live version). > > Anyone know which label this is on? > > FoFP Teichiko Records in Japan, 1989 From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 31 11:19:11 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 01:49:11 +0930 Subject: hawkwind calling all Australian FANS Message-ID: Hello Australian / New Zealand FANS.... It's time to unite! It's time to ignite!! If you want to party with Hawkwind One of these fine NIGHTS!!!!!!! ((Or two.....or threeee....or four......etc)) Do any of the following apply to you??? (1) You have not seen HAWKWIND in action and are hanging out to do so....... (2) You HAVE seen HAWKWIND in action and want more........ (3) You want to do everything in your power to get Hawkwind over to Australia / New Zealand again!!! WELL THEN: Get in touch now!!! Let us BRAINSTORM together and work something out michaelangelo68 at ozemail.com.au or http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Electric_Tepee.htm Michael B South OZ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Mar 31 11:24:28 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:24:28 +0100 Subject: HW: url to IRC chat log! In-Reply-To: <001701c0b9f8$5fa746c0$9fcd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: In message <001701c0b9f8$5fa746c0$9fcd223f at michaelangelo68>, Michael W Blackman writes >It can be difficult for everyone - you have to consider lag time , typing >time, thinking time, the excitement etc > >Its not quite the same as a conversation at the coffee table..... Hey, I wasn't criticising, it's perfectly understandable. When I read the announcement about the irc session I immediately realised there was no way I'd be at the computer at that time, but I was really curious to see how it turned out. When I read the chat log though, I realised it was probably better that the whole of boc-l hadn't all logged on at once! :-) So anyway you must be pretty pleased about the band coming back to your part of the world eh? -- Nick Medford From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 31 11:37:39 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 02:07:39 +0930 Subject: HW: url to IRC chat log! Message-ID: Hi Nick Pleased, excited, overwhelmed - Can't wait -but i'll have to Peace Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 1:54 AM Subject: Re: HW: url to IRC chat log! > In message <001701c0b9f8$5fa746c0$9fcd223f at michaelangelo68>, Michael > W Blackman writes > >It can be difficult for everyone - you have to consider lag time , typing > >time, thinking time, the excitement etc > > > >Its not quite the same as a conversation at the coffee table..... > > Hey, I wasn't criticising, it's perfectly understandable. When I read the > announcement about the irc session I immediately realised there was no > way I'd be at the computer at that time, but I was really curious to see how > it turned out. When I read the chat log though, I realised it was probably > better that the whole of boc-l hadn't all logged on at once! :-) > > So anyway you must be pretty pleased about the band coming back to your > part of the world eh? > -- > Nick Medford > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 31 12:05:52 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 02:35:52 +0930 Subject: hawkwind t shirts Message-ID: Just made a nifty Chronicle of the Black sword tshirt for myself from the album artwork Does anyone make or sell them anywhere in the world? Curious Mb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Mar 31 13:13:49 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:13:49 -0500 Subject: HW: IRC Chat Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS IRC chat transcription now in HTML format... Follow link from Mission Control Updates www.hawkwind.org.uk ++MESSAGE ENDS From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Mar 31 13:28:26 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 03:58:26 +0930 Subject: HW: IRC Chat Message-ID: Hey KOOOOOL RIK!!! Looks groovy man!!! Once again you're doing a groovy job their Boss Thanks! Michael_IN_OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Rx To: Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 3:43 AM Subject: Re: HW: IRC Chat > ++STAR WARRIORS > > IRC chat transcription now in HTML format... > Follow link from Mission Control Updates > www.hawkwind.org.uk > > ++MESSAGE ENDS > From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Mar 31 13:27:05 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:27:05 -0500 Subject: HW: IRC Stuff Message-ID: Just a note to say that when the IRC channel gets busy next time a chat is on, we will set the channel to 'moderated'. This just means that while everyone will be able to see the chat, only those given 'voice' will be able to ask questions. Everyone will then be selected in rotation to ask questions. This is why we chose IRC over web based chats. Hope this clears up any concerns etc. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Mar 31 13:36:52 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:36:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Arthur Brown (was: Gig advertising) In-Reply-To: <008401c0ab32$ee89d9e0$6f35883e@jds> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Jill Strobridge wrote: > Oh yes - Dracfest is one of the highlights in my Festival memories. > Arthur Brown gave an amazing performance and it's such a shame it > was never (to the best of my knowledge) recorded on video. That > guy has a really powerful stagepresence! But equally to my > regret he did a surprisingly understated solo performance at > Glastonbury so who can say how he will be feeling at > Canterbury...... Last Canterbury he was excellent, as I posted at the time; would have completely stolen the show if Gong had not been yet to play. Since then, well here's a review of a recent London gig I was at for you: -- Subject: The Crazy World of Arthur Brown/The Lucky Bishops, 22/02/01 @ The Standard, Walthamstow. "The actual bands I was there to see, at least who were on the bill, were The Lucky Bishops and The Crazy World of Arthur Brown. The Lucky Bishops I've seen there before, and they're a perfectly competent, faintly psychedelic, indie pop band somewhere betwen Supergrass and Blur. Not really as good as either but their psych pop influences are slightly different and when they leave off the happy bouncy verse-chorus-verse-chorus numbers (which are probably very nice but I don't really get pop live, I would probably like this lot better on record) and actually let their quite good musical ability have front of stage for a few moments they're much more engaging to me. They seemed to do this more towards the end but that may have been the beer getting a hold. They're good, anyway, but not good enough to make it when there are such big bands in the same vein already out there. "But Arthur Brown, well. He was better at Canterbury, it has to be said, and some of the stage patter was little modified from then, but he was still pretty bloody good. He seemed to have trouble with a few top notes (this was most noticeable in `Love is the Spirit', and I think he made the absolute most of it because it's a song largely about the amount of suffering he can take and so having him apparently killing off his own voice to deliver it was quite moving) and he couldn't hold the crowd, but many of them I thought were amazed to see this many Arthur Brown fans in one place and had to talk to each other a lot in case they decided they were dreaming it. But he was good. There's a certain something about any gig that starts with eerie viola and the lead performer coming on in a long coat and broad-brimmed hat, carrying a staff taller than he is and a lantern, with his entire head swathed in black cloth so that none of his features are visible. It was an up-close-and-personal kind of gig, he responded to a lot of the crowd's calls (as well as spraying the front rows with baby powder), made a note of what songs were being called for and even, when someone yelled for `Traffic Light Song' (which you can't do without at least one more instrumentalist than he had and another singer, really) stepped straight up to the microphone and delivered a highly scatalogical four-line refrain from earlier in the same album which left the bloke in question well chuffed. The band were also pretty good, his viola-/ guitar-player particularly but also the organist (who was playing seated on the floor and was thus invisible to me for most of the gig; I'm still not convinced the bass wasn't on tape as I could see no such musician). The percussionist was in no way shabby either. But you don't go to see Arthur Brown for the band, you go and see him, and he was pretty good. Things of note were the first number, `Hard Rain Gonna Fall' sung through black cloth and very eldritch, `I Put A Spell on You', which was less terrifying than at Canterbury but brought out the pain of the song very much more, and an excellent `Hoochie Coochie Man' (never heard that with a Hammond before), as well as a new one of his own which is at least the equal of most of the other stuff he played, called I think `Bridge Over the River of Dreams'. And of course he did `Fire', a song which was sampled by the Prodigy and is the only reason any of you know whom I'm talking about, and which as he observed afterwards used to get him thrown out of clubs as a devil-worshipper and is now played in supermarkets. He made a fuss about doing it as usual, which was in itself pretty inspired: AB: Well, there comes a time in a man's life... where you have to do your hit. (Cheers from crowd) AB: I might just not do it! [Saying the which he looks around and then gives a highly inspired version of the lead-in, `Prelude', and then... ] AB: I AM - [looks round at all the cheering faces in disgust] - No. AB: Perhaps it's time for a rest? Yes? No? (Cries of "No!" from the crowd) AB: In that case definitely yes. [Lies down on the stage] AB: You know, lying here reminds me of the old days, sitting on the cabin porch with my uncle Cephus. He would sit there with his guitar and smoke himself silly, and imagine he was, say, John Williams playing some classical piece or other... [The guitarist produces a fine little take on a stoned version of what I think was Mozart] AB: And then he would imagine, say, that he was Jimi Hendrix on the Isle of Wight... [The guitarist turns on all the pedals and manages to still sound like a stoned no-good] AB: And then his wife would come in, and she would say, "You ain't no good! If you was any good, you could pretend you was Sylvester Stallone, playing the Verve's version of, of, Buddy Holly's hit, `That'll Be the Day'!" [The guitarist's take on this is very difficult to describe, but for all I know that's what it would sound like...] AB, standing up: Sylvester Stallone, ladies and gentlemen, THE GOD OF HELL FIRE! [and thus the song... ] "So yeah he was pretty good really." -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Mar 31 15:45:47 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:45:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury Festival In-Reply-To: <200103141210.MAA13351@cedar.dcs.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Merrick Martin French wrote: > We're in the planning stage at the moment but will plan in a taxi service if its > needed. Any news on this? The website remains uninformative... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Mar 31 16:01:16 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:01:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Richard Lockwood wrote: > Alien Planetscapes? > > > > > Yeah, but can you see the Top Ten Of Space Rock getting made? I couldn't > > > name 10 space rock bands that Joe Public would've heard of. At > > least this > > > way we're getting a few minutes of HW documentary on the telly > > for the first > > > time. > > > > Yes, but who would it be? I'd have to include Farflung, DarXtar > > and the Ozrics along with Hawkwind, also ST37 because I'm just that way, > > but who else really? Are there ten really good space-rock groups? Have > > there been? I think a full ten would have to include some real lame > > ones. Yours, They're quite high up on my list of things to check out. However, having been effectively skint for the last two years or more, they haven't yet received the attention I'm assured they deserve. But let's count them in for the moment, unless they start to sound like Quarkspace or melting Euphoria in which case enough already, I find personally. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Mar 31 16:09:44 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:09:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? In-Reply-To: <200103142011.PAA25344@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:18:12 -0600, Mike Coleman > wrote: > >seems like Walter Wegmuller's tarot, with the cosmic couriers....... > > ... with Manuel Gottsching & Harmut Enke from Ash Ra Tempel, Klaus Schulze, > Dieter Dirks & a host of other krautrock all-stars. > > >the LP set is worth a ton, and they did a reissue CD box set now as well... > > ... which also, unfortunately, costs a ton. > > The longer I've owned the set, the more I think that it actually *is* worth > the high price ... Doug, where did you find it? I shan't have the money for bulk music for a while, but when I do I might be able to cover that. And I have to know where to look even if only to drool... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Mar 31 16:15:05 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:15:05 +0100 Subject: HW:Top 10 space rock In-Reply-To: <029201c0acd6$cfc2c1c0$8256f7a5@default> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Sara Zaza wrote: > hawkwind > amon duul 2 > gong > ash ra tempel > popol vuh > f/i > tangerine dream (early stuff at least) > pink floyd > cluster > can Lots of the responses to this have included Krautrock bands, which is fine by me; Ash Ra Tempel and early TD are most definitely space, if possibly not rock in the case of the latter, but the aim's the same, isn't it, musical liftoff into the far spheres of the mind etc etc. But: Pink Floyd? Love 'em though I do, which is to say, love everything up to _The Wall_ and then wonder slightly about whether I was ripped off for the rest, are they space-rock? Even in part? A few songs off the first two albums maybe. Afetr that? No, I think you have to draw the line between porgressive and space somewhere and Fliyd and King Crimson fall on the prog side of it. To my mind anyway. This isn't to say that you couldn't perfectly describe space-rock by playing `Interstellar Overdrive' at someone of course. It's one of those `best songs that Hawkwind never recorded', although now they have not that it's exactly easy to find. The other one is Sabbath's `Into the Void' of course; isn't it just as quintessentially genre-setting as `Born to Go'? I would love to hear Hawkwind cover that. But that I think is probably right out, isn't it. The royalties would be a fair bit I imagine... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Mar 31 16:17:50 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:17:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi In-Reply-To: <6uzxlJACWBs6Ewkz@hermit0.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > Agree with Doug's list of top authors above though. Surprised more > Hawkfans don't rave about P.K. Dick- surely the ultimate sci-fi-delic author. I love Philip K. Dick. It was a great source of annoyance to me that the local library only had six or seven of his books. I thought that was a lot until I found out how many there were. Still, it was more than they had of Asimov. [1] Wht, why, why, hasn't Dick's work inspired more music? Does the Bladerunner soundtrack count? Do we care? I must start reading his work in order in a dedicated fashion again and then pen a vast number of lyrics. Yours, Jon [1] The same was true county-wide. Beyond that cost money. -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Mar 31 16:21:22 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:21:22 +0100 Subject: BOC: Remastered CDs (+ speculation) In-Reply-To: <00c801c0ad1c$f217a7e0$5119adcf@sony> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Brad Dahl wrote: > So am I to understand that all the current ST CD's have the skip problem in > Cagey Cretins? What up with that? > > ST will probably be the first remaster I buy. This is the case for me also. Alone of the old CDs it seems only to be available on import in the UK, so I've never quite bought it, considering 14 quid to be too much for eight songs I already have. The remaster would clinch it of course. On the other hand if the sound isn't dramatically improved or if it fails to arrive for several years (just like a real BOC album should) I shall eventually get the old one just so as to play D&S at more people (as I get older and more jaded I seem to find more people to whom it seems appropriate to play it :-) so I'd like to know if there's a particular batch that skip as described or if one just has to put up with it... Any information anyone? Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Sat Mar 31 17:17:15 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:17:15 -0500 Subject: hawkwind t shirts Message-ID: *jealous* I don't suppose you'd want to sell one of those shirts to me would you? John Majka jmajka2 at home.com Just made a nifty Chronicle of the Black sword tshirt for myself from the album artwork Does anyone make or sell them anywhere in the world? Curious Mb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sat Mar 31 17:41:51 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:41:51 +0100 Subject: smashy and nicey: The end of an era Message-ID: just watched this on channel 4. Noticed that the harry enfield(smashy) had a hawkwind patch on the top right hand side of his jacket. The patch was the cover of the griffin "lord of light" compilation. colm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Mar 31 17:36:37 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:36:37 -0500 Subject: BOC: Seen on USENET Message-ID: Forwarding only...I take no responsibility. :) Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Funny he forgot to mention the date...actually he realized it and put it in another message...Friday, May 11th. Hi all, Last year my band(Chain Reaction),opened for BOC at Toad's Place in New Haven Ct and we offered free tix to that show.Although many of you were skeptical about the validity of this,the response was great and found out that I really wasn't kidding.Well,BOC are playing Toad's once again(300 York St New Haven Ct)and once again,I'm offering FREE tix to anyone interested.Opening the show will be Earth(Black Sabbath tribute band)and my newest band,Megahertz.MHZ play a bunch of 80's metal covers(very much like my last band Chain Reaction).Feel free to contact us,give your name,snail mail address and how many you'd like and we'll send them to you with no obligation and the ONLY catch is that you have to get to Toad's by 10pm to get in for free(after 10 you'll pay only $4.99 which is still cheaper than if you but your tix anywhere else).Please take full advantage of this offer as you'd not only be helping us by using our tix but saving yourself a lot of money.Hope to hear from you soon E-Mail Jim Mad4strngr at aol.com Jorge WICKEDSIN at worldnet.att.net Website MHZROCK.com Big Jim MHZ Guitarist From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Mar 31 18:02:06 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:02:06 -0500 Subject: HW: NIK: Strange Trips releases Message-ID: Eli answers Steve "Star Nation" Hayes with... >Hi Everybody. Happy Saturday (I'll hope.) >Below I've reprinted 2 different responses from this morning to Andy Gilham's >request for feedback on the 3 new live Strange Trips releases on CDR. The >first response came from Steve Hayes (haystack) apparently and I'm pleased >for him that Steve managed to ID his response as just his "humble opinion" as >opposed to his UNBIASED opinion. Anyway, my biased opinion, since I'm friends >with Jim Lascko, is more aligned with the response printed below from Stephe. >I think all 3 releases: Farflung with Nik Turner, Anubian Lights with Nik >Turner, and the solo Harvey Bainbridge set, are classic sets of live music >taken from crisp soundboard recordings and remastered with great care. I >don't think any fan would be disappointed with them on the basis of sound >quality. Yes they're "live", but the sound is excellent in all cases. > I also thought that the packaging on all 3 was really attractive. Where >else have fans been offered the opportunity to obtain high quality live sets >by these 3 acts? Knowing Jim and his ethics, the way that I do, I'm sure that >all the artists involved have consented to these releases, and will share in >any profits from them. That doesn't sound like a "bootleg" to me. All 3 >releases represent, as far as I'm concerned, some of the peak performances >from America's premier space rock festival. Anybody that enjoyed any of Nik's >live Cleopatra releases in the 90's will love the Nik and Farflung set. I >should mention that the beginning of Farflung's set is material without Nik, >and is really awesome live renditions of some great Farflung material. That's >my humble, biased opinion. These 3 are great. If you like Harvey, if you like >Nik, if you like Farflung you will love these. I wouldn't wait for the major >label release though. Get them from Strange Trips. With bias and malice >aforethought, love Eli Friedman > >In a message dated 3/31/01 6:46:11 AM, haystack at ALLTEL.NET writes: > ><< These "releases" are hodgepodge recordings compiled by strangetrips, from >sound board tapes, "mastered" sometimes unsatisfactorily by strangetrips, >and released on cdr....can you say bootleg? these should be aquired through >trading not buying!!!in my humble opinion! Well, OK, this obviously appears to be on the verge of becoming a sensitive subject. I would hate for this issue to end up devolving into any namecalling and such, but I think we need to have some more inside information spewed out before the public, so that we know just what would be the right thing to do. I sense that Mr. Hayes might be holding his tongue here a bit (I'm aware that Jim does puruse the WWW archive board from time to time), but if he could tell us just why it is that he uses the bootleg word, then I would understand the situation better. Is it in reference to perceived quality of the package, or rather the validity of its release? I think we should all expect everyone to be out in the open about this issue. I tend to think like Eli and assume that it would make zero sense for Strange Trips to alienate those who they've put their neck on the line for in the past to support. But I don't wish to pay out $ for a release that the artists don't 'believe' in either. So, can somebody say for sure whether Nik, Harvey, Tommy, et al., are on board with this? (Did Tommy/Len mention this/sell this at the Anubian Lights gig in Cal., Chuck?) Patiently yours...Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Since they are *not* apparently Strage Daze recordings, I assume then that you did not actually do the recordings themselves, right Steve? I remember you saying that these high-quality recordings you had done of previous SD's ('98 and '99) were just collecting dust. I surmise that it might be your opinion that the wrong recordings were released, is that correct? (Wouldn't be the first time!) I don't wish to put words into your mouth, but I'd like to fully understand what's going on here. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sat Mar 31 18:53:53 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:53:53 -0500 Subject: BOC: Remastered CDs (+ speculation) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jon queried: >find more people to whom it seems appropriate to play it :-) so I'd like >to know if there's a particular batch that skip as described or if one >just has to put up with it... Any information anyone? After using school t-1 connections for purely non academic use (grin), on the BOC newsgroup there was talk about this -- it boils down to essentially there being an error on the tape (dust, etc) at that point in cagey cretins (and from other posts along this thread, there were some in 7 Screaming Diz busters, supposeduly Bolle gregamar has a list of about a dozen or so warbles etc. that are the result of unclean tapes and the like. So all will be cleaned as they should be for the re-mastered set. Also, no lyrics will be included in the remasters. Fun anecdote: saw someone besdies me looking through the BOC section at the mall-o-tainment outlet (F.Y.E.) and cheerfully told the fellow to save his money for the summer when sony is remastering the whole collection. Browsing through the Blood sweat and Tears section, too, i noticed they have received a similar treatment (remastered+extra trax). (second to) Lastly, a word of warning, the David Spade film "joe Dirt" purports in the commerical to feature music from Blue Oyster Cult, among others from that fascinating odd decade o' the seventies. Now playing: Valedictory Songs - Bevis Frond. For everyone near a borders, it appears that Rubric Records has a deal with Borders. so yay to them for gettin' the woid out. Jason From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 19 18:31:54 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:31:54 -0500 Subject: OFF: Black Sun Ensemble Message-ID: This album absolutely totally amazingly mindf*ckingly rules ... you need a copy of it NOW! On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:49:07 -0500, K Henderson wrote: >FYI...interesting news - I'd been looking for this for quite awhile - >glad I didn't find a crappy vinyl copy before I read this. :) Actually, there's one or two songs on the original vinyl for which the master tapes were lost and don't appear on this CD reissue. My vinyl copy did not come cheaply, but was worth every penny. >THE BLACK SUN ENSEMBLE - S/T - Australia's Camera Obscura label has >finally made us very happy by reissuing the first LP by this Arizona >band led by some of the most utterly indescribable and magic guitar >playing I've ever encountered ... >Now, does anybody know about this other self-titled BSE disc? I have (or >have heard) three studio albums (including the 2000 release) and a live CD >(that seems like it might be kinda rare as well). So is the complete BSE >(perhaps an unfortunate abbreviation) discography total six full-length- >type releases? The aforementioned CD on Camera Obscura reissues (self-released) album #1 (I believe there were also a couple of cassette releases around this time). The next self-titled album, originally on Reckless, was album #2; it's the most similar to this one, but not as good. 'Lambent Flame', also on Reckless, was #3, and there was a third album on Reckless whose title I forget that was #4. Hope this helps. And again, buy this CD! -Doug ceres at sirius.com P.S. Keith - I think you posted on something that I had an answer for a week or two ago but now I can't remember! Arrgh! From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Mar 19 18:23:58 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:23:58 -0500 Subject: HW: top 10 beginning with A Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:16:14 -0800, John H. McCartney wrote: >Well, haven't seen this one go by yet: > >Angel'in Heavy Syrup I was just thinking that, too ... >I just wish that all their releases were available on cd, >I only have III. Their first album is available domestically (USA) on Subterranean records. Far cheaper than Japanese imports on Alchemy! -Doug ceres at sirius.com