From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 00:46:42 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:16:42 +0930 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: I believe you and you have my utmost sympathies!!!! Sounds like an occassion for a Indian Curry induced case of severe flatulence 8>) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:20 AM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > > BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish man". And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > > (any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event will scar me til the end of my days) > > Layla. > > >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> > Mark Von Bargen writes: > > > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a VERY > > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > > > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > > > > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and then > > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! > > She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. > > FoFP > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 00:48:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:18:01 +0930 Subject: HW: In Australia (was Hairy Warriors) Message-ID: 100% spot on! I'll be thar too! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:48 AM Subject: HW: In Australia (was Hairy Warriors) > > So what are we gonna do about getting Hawkwind over here in Adelaide and > > there in Perth? > > > There are quite a number of Hawkwind fans in Perth. When it gets a little > closer to the world tour (an announcement) I'll place an advert in the > papers and see if I can drum up numbers. > Being a business they will only come across if there's a good crowd. They > have to cover costs and make enough for it to be worthwhile. > > Regardless of where Hawkwind play in Australia I WILL BE THERE > > Bill From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 00:48:56 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:18:56 +0930 Subject: In Australia (was Hairy Warriors) Message-ID: Oh - if I could only impart the details - but alas a I have none to impart :( Big smiles soon i'm sure!!! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:46 AM Subject: Re: In Australia (was Hairy Warriors) > I've only heard rumours but any clues on when this world tour might take > place.CHEERS STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill & Cynthia [mailto:freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU] > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:19 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: In Australia (was Hairy Warriors) > > > > So what are we gonna do about getting Hawkwind over here in Adelaide and > > there in Perth? > > > There are quite a number of Hawkwind fans in Perth. When it gets a little > closer to the world tour (an announcement) I'll place an advert in the > papers and see if I can drum up numbers. > Being a business they will only come across if there's a good crowd. They > have to cover costs and make enough for it to be worthwhile. > > Regardless of where Hawkwind play in Australia I WILL BE THERE > > Bill From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 00:51:15 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:21:15 +0930 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: I'll look out for it! Just scored ANOTHER copy of DO RE MI.... from our local Big Star - it has some extra bonus tracks and is in a fold out thing... Ooooh - lucky me I hear someone saying ...... Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:02 AM Subject: Re: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind > Michael B wrote: > > I would be liking a copy of this ROADHAWKS yes!! > > You'll love it. Has the greatest version of "You Shouldn't Do That" > > Do yourself a favour and find one.... > > Bill From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 01:18:10 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:48:10 +0930 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: giggleski's - Russian for "How rude!" :) You trying to steal Mike's dream woman man? hee h.... I mean - the nerve! ----- Original Message ----- From: Trev (Judge) To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > Dear Layla, > > How would you like an all-expenses-paid trip to see me wiggle me hips in > hamburg germany? > > You would be carried around the site on strong shoulders with flowers in > your hair and trumpets playing. > > Mike c has ...i can't say it... oh...horrible scabs all over his body...and > there is worse... oh god god > > Hows about it then my Hawkbeauty? > > > >From: "Trev (Judge)" > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:55:31 -0000 > > > >DEAR LAYLA - YOU'RE THE ONLY GIRL WHO LIKES HAWKWIND AND I LUV YOU > > > >JUDGE TREV > > > >SO THERE > > > > > >>From: Layla Thompson > >>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >>Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > >>Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 > >> > >>HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > >> > >> > >>BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on > >>the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish > >>man". > >>And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > >> > >>(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event > >>will scar me til the end of my days) > >> > >>Layla. > >> > >> >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> > >>Mark Von Bargen writes: > >> > >> > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a > >>VERY > >> > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > >> > >> > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > >> > > >> > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and > >>then > >> > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! > >> > >>She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. > >> > >>FoFP > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 01:23:08 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Sweaty Salmon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:53:08 +0930 Subject: Off on a fishing trip Message-ID: This is a teat ooops I mean a test its only a test SCRATCH HERE >>>> ,<<<<<< and sniff what do you smell? Mind those bears........ From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jun 1 02:19:38 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:19:38 -0000 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: he dosn't deserve her i'm lonely he's also a very very ugly chap >From: "Mich at el B" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:48:10 +0930 > >giggleski's - Russian for "How rude!" :) > >You trying to steal Mike's dream woman man? > >hee h.... > >I mean - the nerve! > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Trev (Judge) >To: >Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:12 AM >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > > Dear Layla, > > > > How would you like an all-expenses-paid trip to see me wiggle me hips in > > hamburg germany? > > > > You would be carried around the site on strong shoulders with flowers in > > your hair and trumpets playing. > > > > Mike c has ...i can't say it... oh...horrible scabs all over his >body...and > > there is worse... oh god god > > > > Hows about it then my Hawkbeauty? > > > > > > >From: "Trev (Judge)" > > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:55:31 -0000 > > > > > >DEAR LAYLA - YOU'RE THE ONLY GIRL WHO LIKES HAWKWIND AND I LUV YOU > > > > > >JUDGE TREV > > > > > >SO THERE > > > > > > > > >>From: Layla Thompson > > >>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > >>Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > >>Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 > > >> > > >>HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > >> > > >> > > >>BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was >on > > >>the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish > > >>man". > > >>And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > > >> > > >>(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this >event > > >>will scar me til the end of my days) > > >> > > >>Layla. > > >> > > >> >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> > > >>Mark Von Bargen writes: > > >> > > >> > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating >a > > >>VERY > > >> > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > > >> > > >> > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > > >> > > > >> > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else >and > > >>then > > >> > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! > > >> > > >>She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. > > >> > > >>FoFP > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Fri Jun 1 02:29:07 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 02:29:07 -0400 Subject: HW. Calvert Carlisle Stars & Stripes Message-ID: On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 01:28:29 +0100, Ben Fagin wrote: >Hello, > >Can anybody tell me where the carlisle stars & stripes gig is posted if it >is still there? > >Cheers > >Ben aka linuxchaos Ben, Try looking at Steve Pond's site (www.innercityunit.com). Click on the All MP3's Listed tag and its at the bottom. Mark From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Fri Jun 1 02:44:15 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 02:44:15 -0400 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: On Wed, 30 May 2001 22:58:13 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >Blackpool Winter Gdns Aug 12th headlined by Turner's mob posing as H******d >circa '70 plus String Driven Thing's main man, some obscure group called The Body fom way back, a guy from Tractor, and a whole load of other acts >they've 'dug up' for the occasion - and technically the CD Services Sales >stand if we can get enough stock together by then (all disapppeared when the >recent cat came out). >Andy Garibaldi The obscure band called The Body were featured in the Liverpool Echo recently. They are trying to locate one of their original members to get him to play at this show. The story related that they will be supporting HAWKWIND (the Echo's word - not mine) in Blackpool this August. The lost soul was last known to be somewhere in the South West of England! Two pictures of this band (one from 70's, one from NOW) were featured. The NOW picture mase them look like some sort of cabaret band that makes a living going round doing lots of 70's heavy rock covers. Come to think of it they looked a bit like the current line up of Deep Purple or Whitesnake or somebody like that. I wonder if they know what they are letting themselves in for? Mark From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jun 1 04:13:40 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 02:13:40 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: a drooling old man said: he dosn't deserve her (NO, I DON'T) i'm lonely (BOLLOCKS) he's also a very very ugly chap (YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN ME) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jun 1 04:22:40 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 02:22:40 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Back Stabber says: "Dear Layla, How would you like an all-expenses-paid trip to see me wiggle me hips in hamburg germany? You would be carried around the site on strong shoulders with flowers in your hair and trumpets playing. Mike c has ...i can't say it... oh...horrible scabs all over his body...and there is worse... oh god god Hows about it then my Hawkbeauty?" watch out Layla...... if you accept this offer, there won't be any funds left for ANYTHING else. Layla knows about the harmless Meth exit places.....they are not all over. there isn't worse. I was thinking of dealing with the poverty factor of being a musician. THIS is dicouraging. Poor girl....I'm sorry I told you were cute Layla......when they get out of hand, I can destroy them through and through....just you sit back and watch.... m From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Fri Jun 1 03:32:56 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 01:32:56 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Hey, I'm a girl & love Hawkwind:) I need more. Even tho 50 CD's or so of my collection is Hawkwind:) Rock on! Pam "Trev (Judge)" wrote: > Dear Layla, > > How would you like an all-expenses-paid trip to see me wiggle me hips in > hamburg germany? > > You would be carried around the site on strong shoulders with flowers in > your hair and trumpets playing. > > Mike c has ...i can't say it... oh...horrible scabs all over his body...and > there is worse... oh god god > > Hows about it then my Hawkbeauty? > > >From: "Trev (Judge)" > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:55:31 -0000 > > > >DEAR LAYLA - YOU'RE THE ONLY GIRL WHO LIKES HAWKWIND AND I LUV YOU > > > >JUDGE TREV > > > >SO THERE > > > > > >>From: Layla Thompson > >>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >>Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > >>Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 > >> > >>HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > >> > >> > >>BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on > >>the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish > >>man". > >>And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > >> > >>(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event > >>will scar me til the end of my days) > >> > >>Layla. > >> > >> >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> > >>Mark Von Bargen writes: > >> > >> > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a > >>VERY > >> > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > >> > >> > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > >> > > >> > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and > >>then > >> > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! > >> > >>She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. > >> > >>FoFP > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace I have one for PSYCHEDELIC WARLORDS on cleopatra. Haven't seen that mentioned yet. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: J D [mailto:Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:11 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: US Long boxes Hi, Anybody know which US |long boxes exist for various HW CDs? I've got a couple .... Hawkwind & Doremi ... just curious about others. Do they still make long boxes in general (HW or otherwise)? Never saw the point in them myself, although Bush would no doubt relish the prospect of another opportunity to waste natural resources! Jez From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jun 1 05:03:06 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:03:06 -0600 Subject: US Long boxes In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A038@HERMES> Message-ID: stay tuned...... making list... m From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 1 04:01:30 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:01:30 -0500 Subject: US Long boxes Message-ID: I just remembered I also have DOREMI and HAWKWIND s/t too. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Lindas [mailto:Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:50 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: US Long boxes I have one for PSYCHEDELIC WARLORDS on cleopatra. Haven't seen that mentioned yet. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: J D [mailto:Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:11 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: US Long boxes Hi, Anybody know which US |long boxes exist for various HW CDs? I've got a couple .... Hawkwind & Doremi ... just curious about others. Do they still make long boxes in general (HW or otherwise)? Never saw the point in them myself, although Bush would no doubt relish the prospect of another opportunity to waste natural resources! Jez From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 04:15:24 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:15:24 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: nooooooooo............ I was thinking of the farting actualy....... but if I was wrong I didn't want to offend anyone!!! Layla (And don't you be so crude!!) >>> kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET 05/31/01 06:16pm >>> It probably invloves marrows or cucumbers... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > >>> colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK 05/31/01 05:05pm >>> > On Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100, Layla Thompson > wrote: > > >HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > > > > >BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on > the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish man". > And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > > > >(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event > will scar me til the end of my days) > > > >Layla. > > Ah! But we veggies are rumoured to have our own forms of revenge! > > Colin > > > We do?? > > I hope that you are not referring to what I think you are referring to??? > > Are you?? > > Please, tell me what you are getting at..... before I say something embarrassing that is COMPLETELY different to what you were thinking of! > > ARG!!! I am starting to confuse myself now!!!! > > but, tell me anyway! > > > Layla. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jun 1 05:17:06 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:17:06 -0600 Subject: US Long boxes In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A038@HERMES> Message-ID: The longboxes, which in retro, are to die for (just kidding) are: 1) palace springs 2) the xenon codex 3) psychedelic warlords 4) space bandits 5) out and intake 6) hawklords live 7) 1st album 8) ISOS 9) doremi 10) space ritual 11) hall of mt. grill 12) warrior (just checking to see if you are awake)!!!! OK...I think I got them all..... now I have a question.... with memory loss...I am having a video crisis..... I have a video that I marked "Electric Tepee" pt 2, and I THINK it's a dupilicate of my original "Bournemouth" tape that I made, but I can't find part 1. My part 2 starts with "back in the box", and it appears it was extras that are like the "promo collection" videos...... could someone clear up what the 1st part of this is, and what is the original artwork.... also, I have some extra lonbox stuff that awaits, guess what? MINT HAIRLESS WARRIOR FOLDOUT SLEEVE,,,,,, or damn close..... mike From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 04:28:38 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:28:38 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: can we stop all this now please.... I don't like sarcasm.......... and since when was I anyone's "dream woman"..................?! Layla. >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/01/01 06:18am >>> giggleski's - Russian for "How rude!" :) You trying to steal Mike's dream woman man? hee h.... I mean - the nerve! ----- Original Message ----- From: Trev (Judge) To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > Dear Layla, > > How would you like an all-expenses-paid trip to see me wiggle me hips in > hamburg germany? > > You would be carried around the site on strong shoulders with flowers in > your hair and trumpets playing. > > Mike c has ...i can't say it... oh...horrible scabs all over his body...and > there is worse... oh god god > > Hows about it then my Hawkbeauty? > > > >From: "Trev (Judge)" > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:55:31 -0000 > > > >DEAR LAYLA - YOU'RE THE ONLY GIRL WHO LIKES HAWKWIND AND I LUV YOU > > > >JUDGE TREV > > > >SO THERE > > > > > >>From: Layla Thompson > >>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >>Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > >>Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 > >> > >>HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > >> > >> > >>BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on > >>the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish > >>man". > >>And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > >> > >>(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event > >>will scar me til the end of my days) > >> > >>Layla. > >> > >> >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> > >>Mark Von Bargen writes: > >> > >> > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a > >>VERY > >> > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > >> > >> > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > >> > > >> > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and > >>then > >> > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! > >> > >>She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. > >> > >>FoFP > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 04:28:26 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:28:26 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: ermmm... What exactly did I do to deserve all of this then..... I haven't killed anything in ages!? I would LOVE to be carried around on strong shoulders with flowers in my hair.......... but, unfortunatly I am not so much a big fan of trumpets........ sorry about that. And stop slagging off me texan buddie!!!! I'm not gonna stand for any of that!!!! NOT AT ALL!!! You have been warned..... Why are you "wiggling your hips" in Hamburg?????????? I'm sure you can find yourself another girly to tempt over there to eat sausage? (tee hee!) (sorry about that, but I couldn't resist it.... ) Layla. >>> judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM 06/01/01 01:42am >>> Dear Layla, How would you like an all-expenses-paid trip to see me wiggle me hips in hamburg germany? You would be carried around the site on strong shoulders with flowers in your hair and trumpets playing. Mike c has ...i can't say it... oh...horrible scabs all over his body...and there is worse... oh god god Hows about it then my Hawkbeauty? >From: "Trev (Judge)" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:55:31 -0000 > >DEAR LAYLA - YOU'RE THE ONLY GIRL WHO LIKES HAWKWIND AND I LUV YOU > >JUDGE TREV > >SO THERE > > >>From: Layla Thompson >>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >>Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? >>Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 >> >>HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee >> >> >>BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on >>the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish >>man". >>And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... >> >>(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event >>will scar me til the end of my days) >> >>Layla. >> >> >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> >>Mark Von Bargen writes: >> >> > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a >>VERY >> > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) >> >> > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. >> > >> > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and >>then >> > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! >> >>She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. >> >>FoFP > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 04:55:57 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Sweaty Salmon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:25:57 +0930 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Is this the start of Chaos Fight?? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:43 PM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > a drooling old man said: > > he dosn't deserve her (NO, I DON'T) > > i'm lonely (BOLLOCKS) > > he's also a very very ugly chap (YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN ME) > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jun 1 05:54:25 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:54:25 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "can we stop all this now please...." Layla.... seriously....you are honored. these are the gods come to you.....(even if one is naughty) I don't like sarcasm.......... (you and I have a good go at it) and since when was I anyone's "dream woman"..................?! (since I saw you, actually before, but it's not nasty....it's nature...) elemental rolling of tides, pulled by moonlit gravity........ something about a hand, and a beach, at night, since sunlight makes me squint. so here..here's a harmless Teeexasss "kissie" SSSSSmack!! m From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 04:56:30 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:56:30 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Why doesn't he exactly?????????????????????????????????? He can't be all that ugly....... nobody can be that sweet AND ugly.... it's just not possible.................... and if you've got a guitar.......... you can't be all that lonely.. Get a few drinks inside you... and I have found that they can hold rather intelligent conversation!!! lol. Layla >>> judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM 06/01/01 07:19am >>> he dosn't deserve her i'm lonely he's also a very very ugly chap >From: "Mich at el B" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:48:10 +0930 > >giggleski's - Russian for "How rude!" :) > >You trying to steal Mike's dream woman man? > >hee h.... > >I mean - the nerve! > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Trev (Judge) >To: >Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:12 AM >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > > Dear Layla, > > > > How would you like an all-expenses-paid trip to see me wiggle me hips in > > hamburg germany? > > > > You would be carried around the site on strong shoulders with flowers in > > your hair and trumpets playing. > > > > Mike c has ...i can't say it... oh...horrible scabs all over his >body...and > > there is worse... oh god god > > > > Hows about it then my Hawkbeauty? > > > > > > >From: "Trev (Judge)" > > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:55:31 -0000 > > > > > >DEAR LAYLA - YOU'RE THE ONLY GIRL WHO LIKES HAWKWIND AND I LUV YOU > > > > > >JUDGE TREV > > > > > >SO THERE > > > > > > > > >>From: Layla Thompson > > >>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > >>Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > >>Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 > > >> > > >>HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > >> > > >> > > >>BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was >on > > >>the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish > > >>man". > > >>And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > > >> > > >>(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this >event > > >>will scar me til the end of my days) > > >> > > >>Layla. > > >> > > >> >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> > > >>Mark Von Bargen writes: > > >> > > >> > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating >a > > >>VERY > > >> > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > > >> > > >> > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > > >> > > > >> > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else >and > > >>then > > >> > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! > > >> > > >>She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. > > >> > > >>FoFP > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 04:58:39 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:58:39 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 06/01/01 09:22am >>> Back Stabber says: "Dear Layla, How would you like an all-expenses-paid trip to see me wiggle me hips in hamburg germany? You would be carried around the site on strong shoulders with flowers in your hair and trumpets playing. Mike c has ...i can't say it... oh...horrible scabs all over his body...and there is worse... oh god god Hows about it then my Hawkbeauty?" watch out Layla...... if you accept this offer, there won't be any funds left for ANYTHING else. Layla knows about the harmless Meth exit places.....they are not all over. there isn't worse. I was thinking of dealing with the poverty factor of being a musician. THIS is dicouraging. Poor girl....I'm sorry I told you were cute Layla......when they get out of hand, I can destroy them through and through....just you sit back and watch.... m I am sure that I can take care of myself Michael...... though I would very much like to know what it is that you would plan to do?? Layla. xx From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 05:03:13 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Sweaty Salmon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:33:13 +0930 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Mike Coleman is a dude indeed ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 7:24 PM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > "can we stop all this now please...." > > > Layla.... > > seriously....you are honored. > > these are the gods come to you.....(even if one is naughty) > > I don't like sarcasm.......... > > (you and I have a good go at it) > > > and since when was I anyone's "dream woman"..................?! > > (since I saw you, actually before, but it's not nasty....it's nature...) > > elemental rolling of tides, pulled by moonlit gravity........ > > something about a hand, and a beach, at night, since sunlight makes me squint. > > so here..here's a harmless Teeexasss "kissie" SSSSSmack!! > > m From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 05:04:23 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:04:23 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: a drooling old man??? How old are we talking here?? Layla >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 06/01/01 09:13am >>> a drooling old man said: he dosn't deserve her (YES, I DO) i'm lonely (BOLLOCKS) he's also a very very ugly chap (YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN ME) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jun 1 06:19:38 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:19:38 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: a drooling old man??? How old are we talking here?? I don't want to embarrass him..... lets put it this way....I'm 36...... thats an old man to you..... I am trying to get him to come join us in America, and become my legal guardian, since I am cracking up. so NO....it's NOT the start of Chaos fight. m From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 05:28:52 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Sweaty Salmon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:58:52 +0930 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: Has anyone had a birthday recently Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best wishes etc Mb From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 05:29:35 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Sweaty Salmon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:59:35 +0930 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: a Blinding light >>> LSD?? heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 7:49 PM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > a drooling old man??? > > How old are we talking here?? > > I don't want to embarrass him..... > > lets put it this way....I'm 36...... > > thats an old man to you..... > > I am trying to get him to come join us in America, and become my legal > guardian, > since I am cracking up. > > so NO....it's NOT the start of Chaos fight. > > m From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 05:38:07 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:38:07 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: that isn't an old man to me....... about 60 is an old man to me... tell me how old he is!!!!!????? Layla >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 06/01/01 11:19am >>> a drooling old man??? How old are we talking here?? I don't want to embarrass him..... lets put it this way....I'm 36...... thats an old man to you..... I am trying to get him to come join us in America, and become my legal guardian, since I am cracking up. so NO....it's NOT the start of Chaos fight. m From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 05:38:56 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:38:56 +0100 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: awwwwwwwwwww that'd be really sweet! I say yes! (though my birthday isn't until April!!! lol) >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/01/01 10:28am >>> Has anyone had a birthday recently Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best wishes etc Mb From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 05:49:07 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:49:07 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 06/01/01 10:54am >>> "can we stop all this now please...." Layla.... seriously....you are honored. these are the gods come to you.....(even if one is naughty) I don't like sarcasm.......... (you and I have a good go at it) and since when was I anyone's "dream woman"..................?! (since I saw you, actually before, but it's not nasty....it's nature...) elemental rolling of tides, pulled by moonlit gravity........ something about a hand, and a beach, at night, since sunlight makes me squint. so here..here's a harmless Teeexasss "kissie" SSSSSmack!! m ermmm.... you have lost me now babe........ (sorry) Layla.. (sat in total confusion......) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jun 1 06:53:47 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:53:47 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Samanfa: that isn't an old man to me.......(36 right?) about 60 is an old man to me...(thats him) tell me how old he is!!!!!????? (the Impial Pompadours are young and good looking) so you are going for my "Dad" then???...oh yeah, Lemmy's dad, Trev's "Uncle Trev"..... m From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 06:00:46 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Sweaty Salmon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:30:46 +0930 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: who me? ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > that isn't an old man to me....... > > about 60 is an old man to me... > > > tell me how old he is!!!!!????? > > > Layla > > >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 06/01/01 11:19am >>> > a drooling old man??? > > How old are we talking here?? > > I don't want to embarrass him..... > > lets put it this way....I'm 36...... > > thats an old man to you..... > > I am trying to get him to come join us in America, and become my legal > guardian, > since I am cracking up. > > so NO....it's NOT the start of Chaos fight. > > m From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 06:01:20 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Sweaty Salmon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:31:20 +0930 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: I'm an April baby to!!! 22/4/ ???? ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 7:08 PM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > awwwwwwwwwww > > that'd be really sweet! > > > I say yes! > > (though my birthday isn't until April!!! lol) > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/01/01 10:28am >>> > Has anyone had a birthday recently > > Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best wishes etc > > Mb From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jun 1 07:28:12 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 05:28:12 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Samanfa: "ermmm.... you have lost me now babe........ (sorry)" what it means is, after I get an "Go Ahead" email from Kris and God, to lay out the UNHOLY anount of bucks for the MINT FRENCH HASSAN that is now available to me, I will be an unstoppable temptation to your father, a convenient large collecter of the Hawkpeople. When it is time for us to make our move, cut and run, I will have all the power needed to pull of "The Bribe". all the crap. for you. the end. Mike From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 06:51:20 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:51:20 +0100 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: 10/04/1982 that's me!! lets all party together next April!! Layla. >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/01/01 11:01am >>> I'm an April baby to!!! 22/4/ ???? ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 7:08 PM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > awwwwwwwwwww > > that'd be really sweet! > > > I say yes! > > (though my birthday isn't until April!!! lol) > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/01/01 10:28am >>> > Has anyone had a birthday recently > > Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best wishes etc > > Mb From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Jun 1 06:37:24 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:37:24 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Easy tiger!! There's hundred's of us girlie Hawkwind fans out here. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Trev (Judge) [mailto:judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: 31 May 2001 22:56 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? DEAR LAYLA - YOU'RE THE ONLY GIRL WHO LIKES HAWKWIND AND I LUV YOU JUDGE TREV SO THERE >From: Layla Thompson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 > >HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > >BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on >the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish man". >And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > >(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event >will scar me til the end of my days) > >Layla. > > >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> >Mark Von Bargen writes: > > > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a >VERY > > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > > > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > > > > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and >then > > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! > >She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. > >FoFP _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 06:52:33 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:52:33 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: I want to know how old "judge Trev" is..... apparently he is an "old Man" but I want to know EXACTLY how old. How come U didn't say what year you were born in?? Enquiring minds wanna know! Layla. >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/01/01 11:00am >>> who me? ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > that isn't an old man to me....... > > about 60 is an old man to me... > > > tell me how old he is!!!!!????? > > > Layla > > >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 06/01/01 11:19am >>> > a drooling old man??? > > How old are we talking here?? > > I don't want to embarrass him..... > > lets put it this way....I'm 36...... > > thats an old man to you..... > > I am trying to get him to come join us in America, and become my legal > guardian, > since I am cracking up. > > so NO....it's NOT the start of Chaos fight. > > m From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 07:01:42 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Riger Mortis Rat) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:31:42 +0930 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Ok here it is 22/4/1968 T'was a marvelous year Thou art a youngin ey Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > I want to know how old "judge Trev" is..... apparently he is an "old Man" but I want to know EXACTLY how old. > > How come U didn't say what year you were born in?? > > Enquiring minds wanna know! > > Layla. > > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/01/01 11:00am >>> > who me? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Layla Thompson > To: > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > > that isn't an old man to me....... > > > > about 60 is an old man to me... > > > > > > tell me how old he is!!!!!????? > > > > > > Layla > > > > >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 06/01/01 11:19am >>> > > a drooling old man??? > > > > How old are we talking here?? > > > > I don't want to embarrass him..... > > > > lets put it this way....I'm 36...... > > > > thats an old man to you..... > > > > I am trying to get him to come join us in America, and become my legal > > guardian, > > since I am cracking up. > > > > so NO....it's NOT the start of Chaos fight. > > > > m > From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Jun 1 06:49:30 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:49:30 +0100 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: This is a really sad story. It was my 30th birthday on 29th December 2000. Ring any bells - yep, Astoria, Charing Cross Road - should have been the best day of my life. I've been going to see Hawkwind as often as poss. for 15years now and just my luck that this would be my sh1t gig. We were let down with the happy beans - I felt rough so couldn't even have a drink and then we got one of the worst places in the place to sit (yes it was that bad I was actually sitting at a Hawkwind gig). I was soooooooo sad the next day - everyone else seemed to have had a great time and I'd had a really pants time - gutted. It was probably partially my own fault - I'd really built myself up for it and was convinced it would be as good as Brixton the previous month. Oh well - Hawkwind were not at fault that much I do know but I never want to turn 30 again!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Sweaty Salmon [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: 01 June 2001 10:29 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Has anyone had a birthday recently Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best wishes etc Mb The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jun 1 07:04:40 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:04:40 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Er...where? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samantha Kirwan" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:37 AM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > Easy tiger!! There's hundred's of us girlie Hawkwind fans out here. > > Sam > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Trev (Judge) [mailto:judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM] > Sent: 31 May 2001 22:56 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > DEAR LAYLA - YOU'RE THE ONLY GIRL WHO LIKES HAWKWIND AND I LUV YOU > > JUDGE TREV > > SO THERE > > > >From: Layla Thompson > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 > > > >HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > > > > >BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on > >the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish man". > >And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > > > >(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event > >will scar me til the end of my days) > > > >Layla. > > > > >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> > >Mark Von Bargen writes: > > > > > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a > >VERY > > > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > > > > > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > > > > > > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and > >then > > > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! > > > >She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. > > > >FoFP > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. > > ntl Group Limited From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 07:15:25 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:15:25 +0100 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind In-Reply-To: Bill & Cynthia's message of Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:32:12 +0800 Message-ID: Bill & Cynthia writes: > Michael B wrote: > > I would be liking a copy of this ROADHAWKS yes!! > > You'll love it. Has the greatest version of "You Shouldn't Do That" >From the Space Ritual encore. My favourite moment is when Seeing It As You Really Are, which ends YSDT is sequed into the opening of the Silver Machine single, later rerealeased in this version in 1975. How come Roadhawks never made it to CD? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 07:20:06 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:20:06 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: Layla Thompson's message of Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 Message-ID: Layla Thompson writes: > HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I > was on the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the > "smelly fish man". And, little old me being a veggie and all only > made it worse...... > (any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this > event will scar me til the end of my days) That's quite a tail and you're right to carp about the smell, which probably went off the scale. My sympathies are solely reserved for you. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 07:20:58 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:20:58 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: Colin Allen's message of Thu, 31 May 2001 12:05:22 -0400 Message-ID: Colin Allen writes: > Ah! But we veggies are rumoured to have our own forms of revenge! I *knew* there must be some explanation for the existence of tofu. FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 07:25:54 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Riger Mortis Rat) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:55:54 +0930 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: Ahhhhh - but ye were there! Think of my sorry ass sitting all the way over here in South Oz - Tears welling up in me eyes LOL But it was a bummer tho Re: B'days - the numbers don't really mean all that much - just celebrate your arrival in the same general time period as the Amazing Hawkwind Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Samantha Kirwan To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > This is a really sad story. It was my 30th birthday on 29th December 2000. > Ring any bells - yep, Astoria, Charing Cross Road - should have been the > best day of my life. I've been going to see Hawkwind as often as poss. for > 15years now and just my luck that this would be my sh1t gig. We were let > down with the happy beans - I felt rough so couldn't even have a drink and > then we got one of the worst places in the place to sit (yes it was that bad > I was actually sitting at a Hawkwind gig). I was soooooooo sad the next day > - everyone else seemed to have had a great time and I'd had a really pants > time - gutted. It was probably partially my own fault - I'd really built > myself up for it and was convinced it would be as good as Brixton the > previous month. Oh well - Hawkwind were not at fault that much I do know > but I never want to turn 30 again!! > > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sweaty Salmon [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: 01 June 2001 10:29 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > Has anyone had a birthday recently > > Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best wishes > etc > > Mb > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. > > ntl Group Limited From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 07:32:30 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Riger Mortis Rat) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:02:30 +0930 Subject: Off Dear Vegetarians Message-ID: First we are going to eat all the vegatables then wait for you all to become too lethatrgic to run away then we will eat you signed The Carnivores From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Jun 1 07:41:35 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:41:35 +0100 Subject: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians Message-ID: On behalf of all us Vegetarians I'd just like to warn you Michael that it looks like either BSE or Foot & Mouth has already gotten hold of you judging by your spelling Love, Peace and Vegetables iain Riger Mortis Rat wrote: > First we are going to eat all the vegatables > then wait for you all to become too lethatrgic to run away > then we will eat you > > signed > The Carnivores From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 07:53:54 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:53:54 +0100 Subject: Off on a fishing trip Message-ID: what was it supposed to smell of?????? Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/01/01 06:23am >>> This is a teat ooops I mean a test its only a test SCRATCH HERE >>>> ,<<<<<< and sniff what do you smell? Mind those bears........ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 07:58:19 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Riger Mortis Rat) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:28:19 +0930 Subject: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians Message-ID: f'n smart assed vegetarians!!! That does it! One more smart comment and the feeding will commence! 8>K ----- Original Message ----- From: iain ferguson To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:11 PM Subject: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians > On behalf of all us Vegetarians I'd just like to warn you Michael that > it looks like either BSE or Foot & Mouth has already gotten hold of you > judging by your spelling > > Love, Peace and Vegetables > iain > > Riger Mortis Rat wrote: > > > First we are going to eat all the vegatables > > then wait for you all to become too lethatrgic to run away > > then we will eat you > > > > signed > > The Carnivores From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jun 1 08:27:28 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:27:28 -0400 Subject: Off Dear Vegetarians Message-ID: On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:02:30 +0930, Riger Mortis Rat wrote: >First we are going to eat all the vegatables >then wait for you all to become too lethatrgic to run away >then we will eat you > >signed >The Carnivores You will all be dead from VCJD or any number of other nasty diseases long before then! signed, The Veggies From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 1 08:23:11 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 07:23:11 -0500 Subject: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians Message-ID: HOW ABOUT SOME "BLOTWURST"? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Riger Mortis Rat [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:58 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians f'n smart assed vegetarians!!! That does it! One more smart comment and the feeding will commence! 8>K ----- Original Message ----- From: iain ferguson To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:11 PM Subject: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians > On behalf of all us Vegetarians I'd just like to warn you Michael that > it looks like either BSE or Foot & Mouth has already gotten hold of you > judging by your spelling > > Love, Peace and Vegetables > iain > > Riger Mortis Rat wrote: > > > First we are going to eat all the vegatables > > then wait for you all to become too lethatrgic to run away > > then we will eat you > > > > signed > > The Carnivores From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jun 1 08:33:12 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:33:12 -0400 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:20:58 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >Colin Allen writes: > >> Ah! But we veggies are rumoured to have our own forms of revenge! > >I *knew* there must be some explanation for the existence of tofu. > >FoFP Nothing wrong with tofu; I use it in place of putty for my windows! From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 1 08:33:39 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 07:33:39 -0500 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: I can eat veggies ok, but tofu tastes awful. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen [mailto:colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 7:33 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:20:58 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >Colin Allen writes: > >> Ah! But we veggies are rumoured to have our own forms of revenge! > >I *knew* there must be some explanation for the existence of tofu. > >FoFP Nothing wrong with tofu; I use it in place of putty for my windows! From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Jun 1 09:00:46 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:00:46 +0800 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: 13/09/58. 43 this year. But I feel YOUNG. Feel great! It's because I am an omnivore! I have the BEST of both worlds. I have colour on my cheeks; spring in my step and an ACHE IN THE PELVIC REGION. My android replica is playing up again that's no joke cos you can't do this, can't do that; can't go forward and you can't go back........ But I do wish I was 30 again. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sweaty Salmon" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:28 PM Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Has anyone had a birthday recently Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best wishes etc Mb From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Fri Jun 1 09:34:58 2001 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:34:58 -0700 Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights Naz Bar Message-ID: So, AndyG (or anyone else who has heard it) - what else do you have to say about the new Anubian Lights CD? I gather from the apology you issued to people who had pre-ordered it that there is something I should know before attempting to track it down... MWood NP: Farflung w/Nik - Strange Daze '99 ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 10:35:35 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:05:35 +0930 Subject: Off Dear Vegetarians Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Allen To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:57 PM Subject: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:02:30 +0930, Riger Mortis Rat > wrote: > > >First we are going to eat all the vegatables > >then wait for you all to become too lethatrgic to run away > >then we will eat you > > > >signed > >The Carnivores > > > You will all be dead from VCJD or any number of other nasty diseases long > before then! > > signed, > The Veggies > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 10:37:52 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:07:52 +0930 Subject: Off Dear Vegetarians Message-ID: oooops - sorry about that last 'empty' post - I errrrrrrrr slippped anyway to the point LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Allen To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:57 PM Subject: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:02:30 +0930, Riger Mortis Rat > wrote: > > >First we are going to eat all the vegatables > >then wait for you all to become too lethatrgic to run away > >then we will eat you > > > >signed > >The Carnivores > > > You will all be dead from VCJD or any number of other nasty diseases long > before then! > > signed, > The Veggies > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 1 10:38:47 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:08:47 +0930 Subject: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians Message-ID: Like.......Bloated burgers, man? ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:53 PM Subject: Re: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians > HOW ABOUT SOME "BLOTWURST"? STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Riger Mortis Rat [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:58 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians > > > f'n smart assed vegetarians!!! > > That does it! > > One more smart comment and the feeding will commence! > > 8>K > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: iain ferguson > To: > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:11 PM > Subject: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians > > > > On behalf of all us Vegetarians I'd just like to warn you Michael that > > it looks like either BSE or Foot & Mouth has already gotten hold of you > > judging by your spelling > > > > Love, Peace and Vegetables > > iain > > > > Riger Mortis Rat wrote: > > > > > First we are going to eat all the vegatables > > > then wait for you all to become too lethatrgic to run away > > > then we will eat you > > > > > > signed > > > The Carnivores > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jun 1 10:40:24 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:40:24 -0400 Subject: Off Dear Vegetarians Message-ID: On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:05:35 +0930, Mich at el B wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: Colin Allen >To: >Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:57 PM >Subject: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians > > >> On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:02:30 +0930, Riger Mortis Rat >> wrote: >> >> >First we are going to eat all the vegatables >> >then wait for you all to become too lethatrgic to run away >> >then we will eat you >> > >> >signed >> >The Carnivores >> >> >> You will all be dead from VCJD or any number of other nasty diseases long >> before then! >> >> signed, >> The Veggies >> See!!! It is having an effect already! From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 1 10:39:43 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:39:43 -0500 Subject: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians Message-ID: No,its blood sausage. Someone german needs to explain because I forgot. Its entrails or something not very appealling. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:39 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians Like.......Bloated burgers, man? ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:53 PM Subject: Re: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians > HOW ABOUT SOME "BLOTWURST"? STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Riger Mortis Rat [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:58 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians > > > f'n smart assed vegetarians!!! > > That does it! > > One more smart comment and the feeding will commence! > > 8>K > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: iain ferguson > To: > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:11 PM > Subject: off: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians > > > > On behalf of all us Vegetarians I'd just like to warn you Michael that > > it looks like either BSE or Foot & Mouth has already gotten hold of you > > judging by your spelling > > > > Love, Peace and Vegetables > > iain > > > > Riger Mortis Rat wrote: > > > > > First we are going to eat all the vegatables > > > then wait for you all to become too lethatrgic to run away > > > then we will eat you > > > > > > signed > > > The Carnivores > From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Fri Jun 1 11:28:36 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:28:36 -0400 Subject: last minute gig reminder Message-ID: SLOTERDIJK tonight in Philadelphia!!!! see the calendar section of our mp3 site for details..www.mp3.com/sloterdijk Other upcoming shows: July 1: Philadelphia, PA August 3rd: Amityville, Long Island (NY) details TBA as they arrive Sometime in August or September: Cleveland Ohio..Venue and details TBA www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 11:50:31 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:50:31 +0100 Subject: last minute gig reminder In-Reply-To: SLOTERDIJK's message of Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:28:36 -0400 Message-ID: SLOTERDIJK writes: > SLOTERDIJK tonight in Philadelphia!!!! > > Other upcoming shows: > > August 3rd: Amityville The horror! The horror! FoFP From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Jun 1 12:38:34 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:38:34 -0500 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF In-Reply-To: <007d01c0ea7d$46170820$22cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Sweaty Salmon wrote: :Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF : :Has anyone had a birthday recently : :Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there :Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best wishes etc well, I turn 30 on 3 July. ...although I hope that I have a better time than Sam did..... Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Jun 1 07:29:47 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:29:47 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Oh that's tragic - you're probably right though - Hawkwind have never been great ones for dancing round handbags. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Perry [mailto:kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET] Sent: 01 June 2001 12:05 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Er...where? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samantha Kirwan" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:37 AM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > Easy tiger!! There's hundred's of us girlie Hawkwind fans out here. > > Sam > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Trev (Judge) [mailto:judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM] > Sent: 31 May 2001 22:56 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > DEAR LAYLA - YOU'RE THE ONLY GIRL WHO LIKES HAWKWIND AND I LUV YOU > > JUDGE TREV > > SO THERE > > > >From: Layla Thompson > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 > > > >HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > > > > >BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on > >the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish man". > >And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > > > >(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this event > >will scar me til the end of my days) > > > >Layla. > > > > >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> > >Mark Von Bargen writes: > > > > > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a > >VERY > > > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > > > > > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > > > > > > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and > >then > > > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! > > > >She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. > > > >FoFP > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. > > ntl Group Limited The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jun 1 13:17:54 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:17:54 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Not tragic...it'd just be nice to have a conversation about HW with someone who hasn't got a beard :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samantha Kirwan" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:29 PM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > Oh that's tragic - you're probably right though - Hawkwind have never been > great ones for dancing round handbags. > > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Perry [mailto:kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET] > Sent: 01 June 2001 12:05 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > Er...where? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Samantha Kirwan" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:37 AM > Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > > Easy tiger!! There's hundred's of us girlie Hawkwind fans out here. > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Trev (Judge) [mailto:judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM] > > Sent: 31 May 2001 22:56 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > > > > DEAR LAYLA - YOU'RE THE ONLY GIRL WHO LIKES HAWKWIND AND I LUV YOU > > > > JUDGE TREV > > > > SO THERE > > > > > > >From: Layla Thompson > > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 > > > > > >HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > > > > > > > >BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was on > > >the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish > man". > > >And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > > > > > >(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this > event > > >will scar me til the end of my days) > > > > > >Layla. > > > > > > >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> > > >Mark Von Bargen writes: > > > > > > > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating a > > >VERY > > > > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > > > > > > > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > > > > > > > > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and > > >then > > > > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! > > > > > >She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. > > > > > >FoFP > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal > attention > > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the > intended > > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any > attachments is > > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. > Any > > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to > contract. > > > > ntl Group Limited > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. > > ntl Group Limited From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Jun 1 14:05:17 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:05:17 -0400 Subject: HW. Calvert Interview Message-ID: Thanks Doug and David, I wasn't after anything specific, I just wanted to hear it again, its a fascinating archive, a real gem. Cheers Mick > On Thu, 31 May 2001 19:17:03 -0400, Michael Crook >wrote: >Has anyone got the web site address of Tim Gadd's (from Tazmania IIRC) >fantastic Calvert interview, only I've lost it. > >It WAS at: >http://www.faof.org/~lupercal/radio/calvert/front.html > >But I was unable to connect right now. > >I have some (but not all) of the files downloaded; contact me off-list if >you'd like me to send them. > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jun 1 14:58:16 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:58:16 -0000 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Dear Mike Toddler, First, you spread malicious rumours about my age - then you make improper advances towards my beautiful new blushing bride. Yes, Layla and I were married yesterday - and I told her my true age - 28 - and if you get any more "upity" ideas - I'm becoming a mormon and I;m marrying Samantha as well! So there Young Trev _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM Fri Jun 1 16:02:59 2001 From: other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM (No Digest) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:02:59 +0000 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: And I'm 33 on 26th June.... Mark > ** Original Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > ** Original Sender: Arin Komins > ** Original Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:41:03 +0100 > ** Original Message follows... > > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Sweaty Salmon wrote: > > :Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > : > :Has anyone had a birthday recently > : > :Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > :Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best wishes etc > > well, I turn 30 on 3 July. ...although I hope that I have a better time > than Sam did..... > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Interviewer: 'you've been looking at the stars all your life. Is there any truth in astrology?' Arthur. C. Clarke: 'It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so of course I'm sceptical.' Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jun 1 15:08:46 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:08:46 EDT Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1 Jun 2001, at 18:58, Trev (Judge) wrote: > Dear Mike Toddler, > > First, you spread malicious rumours about my age - then you make > improper advances towards my beautiful new blushing bride. > > Yes, Layla and I were married yesterday - and I told her my true age - > 28 > > - and if you get any more "upity" ideas - I'm becoming a mormon and > I;m marrying Samantha as well! > Mighty considerate of you, sharing yourself with so many women. I'm sure they're all honored. Hope this doesn't lead to any catfights! theo From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Jun 1 15:22:04 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (MSH) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:22:04 -0400 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF In-Reply-To: <20010601190526.BYJ4151.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@[169.254.168.93]> Message-ID: The big 40 on Sept 23 of this year. Never felt younger, and I mean that. Mike in Troy NY From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Jun 1 15:46:06 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:46:06 -0700 Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights - Naz Bar In-Reply-To: <02c001c0e887$92d908e0$f716bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Pretty harsh words, I thought. Then I received it, and played it...... KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:11 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Andy Garibaldi oh - and apologies to everyone who bought the new Anubian Lights studio CD from CD Services - I do assure you all that if I had played the thing before last week and found out just how much it sucked, I would have warned you all. I will try and make sure this sort of thing does not happen again. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jun 1 15:49:01 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:49:01 -0400 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D904AAA770@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com>; from samantha.kirwan@NTL.COM on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 11:49:30AM +0100 Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 11:49:30AM +0100, Samantha Kirwan wrote: > This is a really sad story. It was my 30th birthday on 29th December 2000. > Ring any bells - yep, Astoria, Charing Cross Road - should have been the > best day of my life. I've been going to see Hawkwind as often as poss. for > 15years now and just my luck that this would be my sh1t gig. We were let > down with the happy beans - I felt rough so couldn't even have a drink and > then we got one of the worst places in the place to sit (yes it was that bad > I was actually sitting at a Hawkwind gig). I was soooooooo sad the next day > - everyone else seemed to have had a great time and I'd had a really pants > time - gutted. It was probably partially my own fault - I'd really built > myself up for it and was convinced it would be as good as Brixton the > previous month. Oh well - Hawkwind were not at fault that much I do know > but I never want to turn 30 again!! I can sympathize, Sam, believe me! That's pretty much how I felt after the Hawkestra. No birthday, but I'd been waiting *decades* to hear Lemmy and Simon H play with HW, and flew from Toronto for the occasion, and ... had a mediocre time. Besides the problems a lot of people had with that gig, I had shitty foam earplugs chopping out all the highs and midrange; I was right at the back; as you say, I'd built it up into something the band couldn't possibly live up to (in retrospect, rereading Time of the Hawklords was a BIG mistake); I was probably already fighting the flu that clobbered me a couple of days later; I was in a bad mood because of stuff that had happened the previous week ... Fuck, if I'm honest, that night wasn't mediocre, it was pretty lousy for me. Part of why the Astoria was so excellent, brilliant, amazing by contrast: Brixton got the anticipointment out of my system. Oh yeah, it also convinced me to stop procrastinating and buy good earplugs in time for the Astoria gig. Hideously expensive ones, but the best $300 ($200-ish U.S.) I've spent in years. BTW, 26-May-58, as mentioned. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Fri Jun 1 16:41:31 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:41:31 -0400 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: From: "Kevin Perry" > Not tragic...it'd just be nice to have a conversation about HW with someone > who hasn't got a beard :-) What's wrong with a beard? That's the only place on my head where hair will grow....well not counting nose, ears, and teeth :) Jerry ObLP: Captain Lockheed & The Starfighters UAG 29507 From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jun 1 17:19:05 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:19:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights Naz Bar Message-ID: well it's like this.......... a)Andy G personal viewpoint: avoid it for it is the devil's work!! b)Andy G's professional viewpoint: avoid it for it is the devil's work (no offence Tommy and Len) c) a customer's viewpoint this week: I thought it was actually so bad that I found it quite entertaining ("dunno what he was on"-AG) d) another customer's viewpoint this week: you've got to hear these things when they're this bad just out of curiosity ("what the hell are you lot on right now????"=AG) For now I can say no more for speechless with it, I am (the famous Yoda impression) or it's actually a stab at commerciality - what thye've essentially done is taken the Anubian Lights instrumental concept onto a sort of commercial ambient dance arena, injected it with some summery vibes and world music influences, sort of Latino and Salsa through a looming tube, and come up with something that they and the label think will probably sell by the truckload. On intetesting fact so far is that the vinyl is actually outselling the CD in the UK and that, of the total CD sales in the UK, we've actually done half of them. Got some nice freee giveaway stickers from the label for it,though, more to be added to the bulging 'free stickers' drawer where half a ton of the old 'Alien 4' cards still reside. Ah what fun - heard today that our Davey album has still not yet hit the pressing plant because Dave can;t do it without the appropriate MCPS form, he ran out and they have yet to send some more, so sorry for the delay. All who registered for the Night Of The Hawks DVD will get it on time, and the good news for you USA people is that you will get an NTSC version from us so you can actually play the thing. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marshall Wood" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights Naz Bar > So, AndyG (or anyone else who has heard it) - what else do > you have to say about the new Anubian Lights CD? I gather > from the apology you issued to people who had pre-ordered > it that there is something I should know before attempting > to track it down... > > MWood > > NP: Farflung w/Nik - Strange Daze '99 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- > http://www.deja.com/ From coral at APORT.RU Fri Jun 1 17:16:36 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:16:36 +0400 Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights - Naz Bar Message-ID: > Pretty harsh words, I thought. Then I received it, and played it...... So... what's wrong with it?! Alice From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Fri Jun 1 18:45:05 2001 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:45:05 -0700 Subject: Back once again.. Message-ID: Hi all.. Back on the list again after a long absence. Some may remember me, been a boc-l'er off and on since, oh, probably '96 or so. I figured it was about time to re-subscribe to get in on the discussions of the new BOC album due out in a few days. I'm sort of excited about it. Here's to hoping it turns out better than HF did. I have high hopes (and a little grain of salt) because of the title.. (hmm.. wonder what AB thinks about the rather obvious _Imaginos_ inspired album title?) I'm hoping it will be a little "deeper" than HF was. I have purposely avoided hearing any of the new CD, I'd rather take it all in at once when I buy it and I missed the last tour so I haven't even heard "Pocket" yet. Anyways, looking forward to my first digest.. Joe From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jun 1 20:46:09 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:46:09 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Mike (collecter) First, you spread malicious rumours about my age - then you make improper advances towards my beautiful new blushing bride. Yes, Layla and I were married yesterday - and I told her my true age - 28 - and if you get any more "upity" ideas - I'm becoming a mormon and I;m marrying Samantha as well! So there Dear Trev, yes, I suppose it is only "the right thing" for me to do, to let you spend your bed-ridden, last days of old age and poverty, with a little sunlight, in the form of someone pretty that can sponge your fevered brow, and lift the soup to your jabbering shakey lips, then wipe your chin and change your bib, until the cold winds of the north come and bring peace to the valley once more. OK..."Do As Thou WilT"... "better by you, better than me" anyway. I have guitars to play, and hips to shake. don't worry, I won't tell Nik what you said, go on and enjoy your feeble years in some pleasure. From dave.bunn at NTLWORLD.COM Fri Jun 1 21:15:53 2001 From: dave.bunn at NTLWORLD.COM (Babylon Hythe) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:15:53 +0100 Subject: off Re: Musical Jokes In-Reply-To: <3B165629.BE790AD2@aol.com> Message-ID: A few oldies: What's the difference between a drummer and a drum machine? With a drum machine you only have to punch the rhythm in once. Why do groups have drummers? To translate between the musicians and the roadcrew. How do you know if there is a singer at the door? Because he has the wrong key, and comes in through the window If you are trapped in lift with Adolf Hitler, Charlie Manson and a drummer, and you have a gun with 2 bullets, what do you do? Shoot the drummer twice, just to make sure. What's the difference between a drummer and a roadie? Drumsticks. What has an IQ of 76? A drummers convention. What do you call a musician without a girlfriend? Homeless. Sorry about the delay in posting this, but you know....... Dave From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jun 1 21:41:09 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:41:09 -0400 Subject: off Re: Musical Jokes Message-ID: On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:15:53 +0100, Babylon Hythe wrote: >A few oldies: > > [... snip ...] > > Sorry about the delay in posting this, but you know....... ... You're a drummer? ;^) Have a great weekend all ... -Doug (still waiting for synth-player jokes, dammit!) jasret at mindspring.com From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Jun 1 22:30:01 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 03:30:01 +0100 Subject: HW. Calvert Carlisle Stars & Stripes In-Reply-To: <000201c0e985$e0c4f420$412fe518@msns.sm.ptd.net> Message-ID: Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Project2501 Sent: 31 May 2001 04:58 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW. Calvert Carlisle Stars & Stripes Try: http://208.50.7.128/icu/calvert.html Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Subject: Re: HW. Calvert Carlisle Stars & Stripes > > Hello, > Can anybody tell me where the carlisle stars & stripes gig is > posted if it is still there? From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 2 00:58:57 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:28:57 +0930 Subject: last minute gig reminder OFF Message-ID: arrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhh gurrrggggllllllleeeeee drip - splat - ahhhhhhchooooo ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 1:20 AM Subject: Re: last minute gig reminder > SLOTERDIJK writes: > > > SLOTERDIJK tonight in Philadelphia!!!! > > > > Other upcoming shows: > > > > August 3rd: Amityville > > The horror! The horror! > > FoFP > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 2 01:03:08 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:33:08 +0930 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: Looks like you are going to be the first to get the Birthday Wishes this year! ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 2:08 AM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Sweaty Salmon wrote: > > :Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > : > :Has anyone had a birthday recently > : > :Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > :Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best wishes etc > > well, I turn 30 on 3 July. ...although I hope that I have a better time > than Sam did..... > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 2 01:04:53 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:34:53 +0930 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: I don't have a beard - but then I don't have any boobs either - well girlie kinda ones anyway ;>) signed ACE ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Perry To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 2:47 AM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > Not tragic...it'd just be nice to have a conversation about HW with someone > who hasn't got a beard :-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Samantha Kirwan" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:29 PM > Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > > Oh that's tragic - you're probably right though - Hawkwind have never been > > great ones for dancing round handbags. > > > > Sam > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Perry [mailto:kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET] > > Sent: 01 June 2001 12:05 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > > > > Er...where? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Samantha Kirwan" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:37 AM > > Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > > > > > Easy tiger!! There's hundred's of us girlie Hawkwind fans out here. > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Trev (Judge) [mailto:judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM] > > > Sent: 31 May 2001 22:56 > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > > > > > > > DEAR LAYLA - YOU'RE THE ONLY GIRL WHO LIKES HAWKWIND AND I LUV YOU > > > > > > JUDGE TREV > > > > > > SO THERE > > > > > > > > > >From: Layla Thompson > > > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:50:06 +0100 > > > > > > > >HA HA!! funny.... her plaice,,,,, tee hee > > > > > > > > > > > >BUT.... you REALLY would not believe just how smelly that was!!! I was > on > > > >the thing from Birmingham to Portsmouth..... next to the "smelly fish > > man". > > > >And, little old me being a veggie and all only made it worse...... > > > > > > > >(any sympathy at this point would be gratefully accepted.... as this > > event > > > >will scar me til the end of my days) > > > > > > > >Layla. > > > > > > > > >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 05/31/01 04:05pm >>> > > > >Mark Von Bargen writes: > > > > > > > > > > (Last time I was on one... I was sat next to a "large" man eating > a > > > >VERY > > > > > smelly fish sandwich the whole way!!! YUCK) > > > > > > > > > That's either a big fish sandwich or a short coach trip. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe if he had SMOKED fish you could have SMOKED something else and > > > >then > > > > > the large man and his fish may have seemed less YUCKY! > > > > > > > >She'd then have invited him back to her plaice. > > > > > > > >FoFP > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal > > attention > > > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the > > intended > > > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any > > attachments is > > > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the > message. > > Any > > > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to > > contract. > > > > > > ntl Group Limited > > > > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal > attention > > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the > intended > > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any > attachments is > > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. > Any > > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to > contract. > > > > ntl Group Limited > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 2 01:09:22 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:39:22 +0930 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: Ahhhh - another lucky soul fortunate enought to be beamed in Earth year 1968 Greetings brother ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: No Digest To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 5:32 AM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > And I'm 33 on 26th June.... > > Mark > > > > ** Original Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > ** Original Sender: Arin Komins > > ** Original Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:41:03 +0100 > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Sweaty Salmon wrote: > > > > :Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > : > > :Has anyone had a birthday recently > > : > > :Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > > :Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best wishes etc > > > > well, I turn 30 on 3 July. ...although I hope that I have a better time > > than Sam did..... > > > > Arin > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > Web Systems Administrator > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > > > > > Interviewer: 'you've been looking at the stars all your life. Is there any truth in astrology?' > Arthur. C. Clarke: 'It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so of course I'm sceptical.' > > Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 2 01:10:07 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:40:07 +0930 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: Thats the spirit!! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: MSH To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 4:52 AM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > The big 40 on Sept 23 of this year. > > Never felt younger, and I mean that. > > Mike in Troy NY From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 2 01:19:51 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:49:51 +0930 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: Just missed Erics birthday by a week HAPPY BIRTHDAY Regarding dissapointm,ents mentioned below - REMEMBER that you should never build up an event with expectations of what it will be, how it will be or anything. It almost allways leads to disapointment because our imaginations are very creative Personally I prefer to undertake such adventures without any thought of what will or won't be That's why I'll never go up in a plane with the intent of jumping out with a parachute- I've been very creative with that one 8>) also have a friend that survived a failed parachute opening screw that and it's also why I had such a ball at the Hawkestra. Peace ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Siegerman To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 5:19 AM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 11:49:30AM +0100, Samantha Kirwan wrote: > > This is a really sad story. It was my 30th birthday on 29th December 2000. > > Ring any bells - yep, Astoria, Charing Cross Road - should have been the > > best day of my life. I've been going to see Hawkwind as often as poss. for > > 15years now and just my luck that this would be my sh1t gig. We were let > > down with the happy beans - I felt rough so couldn't even have a drink and > > then we got one of the worst places in the place to sit (yes it was that bad > > I was actually sitting at a Hawkwind gig). I was soooooooo sad the next day > > - everyone else seemed to have had a great time and I'd had a really pants > > time - gutted. It was probably partially my own fault - I'd really built > > myself up for it and was convinced it would be as good as Brixton the > > previous month. Oh well - Hawkwind were not at fault that much I do know > > but I never want to turn 30 again!! > > I can sympathize, Sam, believe me! That's pretty much how I felt > after the Hawkestra. No birthday, but I'd been waiting *decades* > to hear Lemmy and Simon H play with HW, and flew from Toronto for > the occasion, and ... had a mediocre time. Besides the problems > a lot of people had with that gig, I had shitty foam earplugs > chopping out all the highs and midrange; I was right at the back; > as you say, I'd built it up into something the band couldn't > possibly live up to (in retrospect, rereading Time of the > Hawklords was a BIG mistake); I was probably already fighting the > flu that clobbered me a couple of days later; I was in a bad mood > because of stuff that had happened the previous week ... Fuck, if > I'm honest, that night wasn't mediocre, it was pretty lousy for > me. > > Part of why the Astoria was so excellent, brilliant, amazing by > contrast: Brixton got the anticipointment out of my system. Oh > yeah, it also convinced me to stop procrastinating and buy good > earplugs in time for the Astoria gig. Hideously expensive ones, > but the best $300 ($200-ish U.S.) I've spent in years. > > BTW, 26-May-58, as mentioned. > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > necessarily a good idea. > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 2 01:20:40 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:50:40 +0930 Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights - Naz Bar Message-ID: Are you willing to do a uncensored review? ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Sommers To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 5:16 AM Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights - Naz Bar > Pretty harsh words, I thought. Then I received it, and played it...... > > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:11 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > > Andy Garibaldi > oh - and apologies to everyone who bought the new Anubian Lights studio CD > from CD Services - I do assure you all that if I had played the thing before > last week and found out just how much it sucked, I would have warned you > all. I will try and make sure this sort of thing does not happen again. > From novadrive at HOME.COM Sat Jun 2 02:13:48 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:13:48 -0700 Subject: off Re: Musical Jokes In-Reply-To: <200106020141.VAA21617@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: How many synth-players does it take to, uh, program, urrr, a synth MIDI thing? I don't know? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Doug Pearson Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:41 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: off Re: Musical Jokes On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:15:53 +0100, Babylon Hythe wrote: >A few oldies: > > [... snip ...] > > Sorry about the delay in posting this, but you know....... ... You're a drummer? ;^) Have a great weekend all ... -Doug (still waiting for synth-player jokes, dammit!) jasret at mindspring.com From novadrive at HOME.COM Sat Jun 2 02:20:31 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:20:31 -0700 Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights - Naz Bar In-Reply-To: <007601c0eb23$c40330a0$b6cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: Quick & dirty: Naz Bar sounds to me like they're jumping on the cocktail music craze of a year ago, with a World Music slant.........it definitely does NOT sound like anything I would identify as Grenas/Del Rio stuff....think cheesy. KevinSommers p.s. Maybe 'cheesy' was their intention?..... -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Mich at el B Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:21 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Anubian Lights - Naz Bar Are you willing to do a uncensored review? ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Sommers To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 5:16 AM Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights - Naz Bar > Pretty harsh words, I thought. Then I received it, and played it...... > > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:11 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > > Andy Garibaldi > oh - and apologies to everyone who bought the new Anubian Lights studio CD > from CD Services - I do assure you all that if I had played the thing before > last week and found out just how much it sucked, I would have warned you > all. I will try and make sure this sort of thing does not happen again. > From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Jun 2 02:35:39 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:35:39 -0400 Subject: OFF:setlist, June 1, "Rockers", Philadelphia, PA Message-ID: Horrible sound system, with no monitors caused me to not be able to hear much of anything!! Very strange venue..The stage is a small balcony above the spectators.. As a result of the first band's extremely long set, I was hurried, and consequently the set was much shorter than intented...Nonetheless I tried my best under the circumstances..Did meet some nice people..As often happens, the recording didn't come out. Mike setlist The Thunderbirds Uranium Zone Hassan I Sabha (Assassins of Allah) Fred Goldman's Mustache Golden Void www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Sat Jun 2 04:42:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:42:00 +0100 Subject: HW: RoadHawks, Book, Opal Butterfly Message-ID: With all this talk of RoadHawks never having been released on CD and also rare on vinyl, note that I (and probably several others) have the facilities to take a vinyl record and digitally remaster it onto CD. Anyone out there with the vinyl that wants to get in touch? While I'm here, the only lead I had for a spare copy (or willingness to let me photocopy theirs) of Kris' "This is Hawkwind, do not panic" has dropped out - can anyone else help me with this? More updates to the Opal Butterfly page online too, including the revelation that Lemmy didn't play on Groupie Girl or Gigging Song, neither did he appear in the movie! All true. ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Jun 2 05:48:14 2001 From: other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM (No Digest) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:48:14 +0000 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: And on the day I was born, "Jumpin' Jack Flash" was number 1.... :-) > ** Original Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > ** Original Sender: "Mich at el B" > ** Original Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 06:09:19 +0100 > ** Original Message follows... > > Ahhhh - another lucky soul fortunate enought to be beamed in Earth year 1968 > > Greetings brother > > ;) > ----- Original Message -----From: No Digest > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 5:32 AM > Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > And I'm 33 on 26th June.... > > > > Mark > > > > > > > ** Original Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to > Komply OFF > > > ** Original Sender: Arin Komins > > > ** Original Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:41:03 +0100 > > > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Sweaty Salmon wrote: > > > > > > :Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > : > > > :Has anyone had a birthday recently > > > : > > > :Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > > > :Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best > wishes etc > > > > > > well, I turn 30 on 3 July. ...although I hope that I have a better time > > > than Sam did..... > > > > > > Arin > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > > Web Systems Administrator > > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > > > > > > > > > Interviewer: 'you've been looking at the stars all your life. Is there > any truth in astrology?' > > Arthur. C. Clarke: 'It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so of > course I'm sceptical.' > > > > Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com > > >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Interviewer: 'you've been looking at the stars all your life. Is there any truth in astrology?' Arthur. C. Clarke: 'It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so of course I'm sceptical.' Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Sat Jun 2 05:55:38 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 05:55:38 -0400 Subject: HW: RoadHawks, Book, Opal Butterfly Message-ID: Steve, If I can find my copy of the book then you are welcome to borrow it. If somebody has digital scanning facilities then the book could be published online (on Mission Control, perhaps - Kris, Dave what would you think). If nobody has the facilities then I will try a couple of contacts I know in the industry (after I get the right permissions). Mark On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:42:00 +0100, Steve Litchfield wrote: [snip] >While I'm here, the only lead I had for a spare copy (or willingness to >let me photocopy theirs) of Kris' "This is Hawkwind, do not panic" has >dropped out - can anyone else help me with this? > >Steve Litchfield >Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 2 06:02:17 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:32:17 +0930 Subject: HW: RoadHawks, Book, Opal Butterfly Message-ID: Just a quick question? If I may...... Looking at this from a legal moral viewpoint here: If an album was completely unavailable via the normal record outlets etc ((not including ebay or 2nd hand gear)) and there was no immenent release dates available - would it be morrally and legally acceptable for someone to make a cdr copy from a Hawkfan who has a vinyl copy? On that note, if such a venture did occur, does anyone know how Dave, Kris and the whole gang might feel about it?? I mean would we be branded scabs of humanity or something?? Or would they know that we are LOYAL and loving fans who would happily turn the cdr into a beer coaster once the album was re-released and safely amidst our collections?? signed Groo the WONDERER ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Litchfield To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 6:12 PM Subject: HW: RoadHawks, Book, Opal Butterfly > With all this talk of RoadHawks never having been released on CD and also > rare on vinyl, note that I (and probably several others) have the > facilities to take a vinyl record and digitally remaster it onto CD. > Anyone out there with the vinyl that wants to get in touch? > > While I'm here, the only lead I had for a spare copy (or willingness to > let me photocopy theirs) of Kris' "This is Hawkwind, do not panic" has > dropped out - can anyone else help me with this? > > More updates to the Opal Butterfly page online too, including the > revelation that Lemmy didn't play on Groupie Girl or Gigging Song, neither > did he appear in the movie! All true. > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Jun 2 07:50:30 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 05:50:30 -0600 Subject: OFF:(mike h in n.y.) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: please except apology if my smart ass nature went improper regarding CDR's on ebay the other day. I should have done that differently. I only thought Dave and Kris might like to see what people were up to..... that was my underlying intention. mike c From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Sat Jun 2 07:59:47 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:59:47 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 06/02/01 01:46am >>> Dear Mike (collecter) First, you spread malicious rumours about my age - then you make improper advances towards my beautiful new blushing bride. Yes, Layla and I were married yesterday - and I told her my true age - 28 - and if you get any more "upity" ideas - I'm becoming a mormon and I;m marrying Samantha as well! HEY!!! I never said it was okay for you to marry Samanfa too!! Have you asked her about this???? I think that she has a BIG thing for Mike anyway...... so, you would probably have a large problem getting her!!! Anyway... stop being so greedy!! So there Dear Trev, yes, I suppose it is only "the right thing" for me to do, to let you spend your bed-ridden, last days of old age and poverty, with a little sunlight, in the form of someone pretty that can sponge your fevered brow, and lift the soup to your jabbering shakey lips, then wipe your chin and change your bib, until the cold winds of the north come and bring peace to the valley once more. OK..."Do As Thou WilT"... "better by you, better than me" anyway. I have guitars to play, and hips to shake. don't worry, I won't tell Nik what you said, go on and enjoy your feeble years in some pleasure. PS: Angel......I still love you.... he may have my body........ but he'll never have my heart and soul............! Layla From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat Jun 2 09:40:30 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:40:30 -0400 Subject: OFF:(mike h in n.y.) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: NO problemo brother Ive been very busy so just in reading mode mostly No offence taken.. this is what this forum is about.. free exchange of ideas Mike -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 7:51 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF:(mike h in n.y.) please except apology if my smart ass nature went improper regarding CDR's on ebay the other day. I should have done that differently. I only thought Dave and Kris might like to see what people were up to..... that was my underlying intention. mike c From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Jun 2 10:54:23 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:54:23 EDT Subject: OFF: SHOW NEAR ALLENTOWN PA... Message-ID: Hello, this is parts of an email from Jim Lascko regarding a show near Allentown. most of the email snipped out: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% The Solar Fire Lightshow is doing a show with Quarkspace, Nucleon, and Arttek near Allentown, Pa next Saturday on the 9th. This is Cheff Geoff's (the SD festivals caterer) show and I would like for it to be successful. It should be a good time! From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Jun 2 11:24:52 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:24:52 +0800 Subject: Tony Ashton R.I.P. Message-ID: HI all Just found this sad bit of news on the Deep Purple web site. william Tony Ashton 1946-2001 Tony Ashton passed away peacefully at home on the morning of May 28, 2001. His wife Sandra and daughter Indira were at his side. Shortly before passing away Tony sent this message: Dear everyone, Thanks for all the messages and enquiries - recent tests show the cancer has spread and I've decided to refuse further treatment and come home. So - thanks to all, have a drink for me - cheers and bollox - Tony Ashton. This special commemorates Tony Ashton's unique talents, with particular focus on his connections to Deep Purple. Walid Itayim runs an excellent Tony Ashton web site with more details on the man in general. May his memory live with us forever. Tony Ashton first entered Deep Purple history when his band Ashton, Gardener & Dyke supported Deep Purple in the early 1970s. He became friends with Jon Lord and they teamed up for the "First Of The Big Bands" album from 1974. This project was launched with a single gig at London's Paladium the same year and the live album of that show titled "First Of The Big Bands, BBC Live In Concert 1974" is a tour-de-force groovy, rhythm & blues, boogie piano, big band fest. Nothing less! Tony Ashton appeared on several of Jon Lord's solo albums - "Gemini Suite", "Windows" and "Before I Forget". Together they also composed the soundtrack for "The Last Rebel" movie in 1971. Tony also contributed to Roger Glover's "Butterfly Ball" project and Eddie Hardin's "Wizards Convention" album. Please visit the Tony Ashton website for a comprehensive discography of his work. Tony Ashton's most prominent role in the history of Deep Purple came when he got together with Jon Lord and Ian Paice in 1976 for the excellent but short-lived Paice Ashton Lord project. Their only album "Malice In Wonderland" is a classic in its own right, showing off not just Jon Lord and Ian Paice at their very best, but in particular Tony Ashton and his peculiar and unique style of singing. The album is a powerful and diverse showcase of the band's special and elaborate twin-keyboard musical style. Sadly, touring activities were confined to a few shows in the UK and efforts to put together a second album were aborted. A few surviving tracks have finally seen the light of day as bonus tracks on a recent re-issue of "Malice In Wonderland" on Purple Records. This special is best enjoyed with a pint and a loud Tony Ashton CD. He would have loved it that way. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jun 2 12:24:49 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:24:49 EDT Subject: Tony Ashton R.I.P...".The Resurrection Shuffle" Message-ID: ....Ashton, Gardner & Dyke had one US top 40 hit in 1971, "The Resurrection Shuffle", which was pretty cool; an lp followed [i looked at in in the record store]..... === Doug P. must be able to elaborate..... "<>" From soltanic at YAHOO.COM Sat Jun 2 14:18:10 2001 From: soltanic at YAHOO.COM (Allen Shaw) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:18:10 -0700 Subject: ACTION MAN Hawkwind connection? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Perhaps Calvert. Maybe Bishop. reminds me of parts of Night of the Hawks. Doesn't sound like Dave at all. --- Jon Jarrett wrote: > On Tue, 1 May 2001, K Henderson wrote: > > > Roger Neville-Neil (aka Nostra-Rogus) you're > talking about, eh? Yeah, he > > wrote the lyrics for "Heads" ("In glass booths > they're wired" really? I > > never woulda guessed that that's what he was > saying!). And to connect up > > with the Farflung thread, he wrote the lyrics also > to "The Raven Ate the > > Moon." In fact, he was at Strange Daze '99 when > Farflung played. For those > > of you there that didn't know, he was the odd chap > in the Secret Agent garb > > (trenchcoat and hat), which made me think that he > wrote that one as well. > > (I'm not sure, but I don't think so.) He's a > really nice guy, as we shared > > a table at the Sunday night indoor show at the > Symposium. He lives in > > Portland, OR and walks great distances at times to > see shows, as he doesn't > > own a car (or at least didn't back in '99). (I > know we had a thread about > > that awhile back also.) He's the one that turned > us at AI onto King Black > > Acid (from Portland also). Roger is also a > photography buff who I'm sure > > has a lot of tasty photos of many cool groups. In > fact, I think he shot > > some for SD'99 (check our review page). > > Keith, I think Roger is not entitled to any > claim on `Secret > Agent'. The person who might be is Bob Calvert, > whose `On The Case' from > the musical _The Kid from Silicon Gulch_ has some of > the same phrases, > including the `tight spot' bit as a throwaway; but > even there there's not > so much resemblance. However, the use of that song > does suggest to me that > Dave had all the source he needed for those words > already. Yours, > > Jon > > P.S. that musical was supposed to be getting a > revival some time last > year, wasn't it? I never heard anything about it, I > assume it never > happened? > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Jun 2 14:51:49 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rx) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:51:49 -0400 Subject: HW: Back Catalogue Message-ID: Those of you who are in need of boosting your HW collection: chekkout the following prices and titles: www.towerrecords.co.uk Alien 4 ?9.88 Levitation ?7.39 Live 79 ?7.39 Palace Springs ?7.39 SonicBoomKillers ?7.39 (Remixes of singles & b sides etc) Space Bandits ?7.39 Lord of Light ?8.45 (remixes and stuff inc.single mix of paradox etc) Golden Void ?10.56 (2cd compilation & interview) Out & Intake ?10.56 Best of Friends & Relations ?3.16 (!!!!!) ------------------------------------------------- www.cow.co.uk WEIRD 6 ?12.32 Undisclosed File ?11.32 Choose your Masques ?11.20 California Brainstorm ?12.48 Electric Tepee ?8.60 Elf and the Hawk ?11.62 Ambient Anarchists ?8.81 ------------------------------------------------- www.hmv.co.uk Hawkwind (1st Album) ?8.49 Live Chronicles ?8.49 (2cd issue - 2nd disc is compilation/remixes) Family Tree ?11.49 From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Jun 2 14:52:03 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:52:03 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 5/26 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck 5/26 (5-9pm) 1.Farflung-- "When I Awoke to Sleep No More" (Myth of Solid Ground) 2.Cluster-- "Umleitung" (Sowiesoso; Gyroscope/Sky Records) 3.Census of Hallucinations-- "Back Lash/Carry an Attractive Crystal Ball Around with You" (The 4th Dimension; Stone Premonitions Records) 4.Hawkwind-- "Void City" (Choose Your Masques; RCA Records) 5.Quarkspace-- "Fujita" (Spacefolds 7; Eternity's Jest Records) 6.Helios Creed-- "Spider/Cat Fight" (Your Choice Live; Your Choice Records) 7.Chrome-- "Informations" (No Humans Allowed) 8.Vas Deferens Organization-- "Tao City Hovercraft" (Sweat Your Cheeses...; Charnel Records) 9.Magnasparagus-- Track #7 (ST'd; Orange Entropy Records) 10.Pink Fairies-- "The Snake" (Golden Years; Cleopatra Records) 11.Anubian Lights-- "The Fire Breathes" (Live w/Nik Turner; Strange Trips Records) 12.Saddar Bazaar-- "Arc of Ascent pt. 2" (Conference of the Birds; Delerium Records) 13.Saturnia-- "Borealis" (II) 14.Tangerine Dream-- "Journey Through a Burning Brain" (Electronic Meditation; Sequel Records) 15.The Colored Plank-- "Black Ferris Wheel" (Psychedelic Psauna comp; Delerium) 16.Man (UK)-- "The Future Hides its Face" (Revelation/The Early Years; Dojo Records) 17.Ozone Player-- "Warezz" (Insane Logic; Visual Power Records) 18.Hawkwind-- "Blue Skin" (Alien 4; EBS Records) 19.F/i-- "Electric Waltz" (Why Not Now? Alan!/Out of Space and Out of Time; RRRecords) 20.Premiata Forniera Marconi-- "La Carroza di Hans" (Storia di un Minuto) 21.Escapade-- "Crawlspace" (Remembrance of Things Uknown; Mother West Records) 22.Jean-Francois Pauvros-- "La Chanson du Cure-dent" (Ubu et la Merdre comp; Musea/Gazul Records) 23.Amanita/Groomlake Danceband/Anubian Lights/Apollo II (COLLAGE) 24.Robert Calvert-- "The Right Stuff" (Capt. Lockheed and the Starfighters; BGO Records) 25.Frank Zappa-- "Didja Get Any on Ya?" (Weazels Ripped My Flesh; Rykodisc Records) 26.Conrad Schnitzler-- "Contrapuntal Interstellar Radars" (Space Box comp; Cleopatra Records) 27.Brainstorm-- "#6" (Space Box; Cleopatra) 28.Helios Creed-- "I Condemn You" (Cosmic Assault; Cleopatra) 29.Therion-- title track (Ho Drakon Ho Megas: Symphony Masses; Pavement Records) 30.Cookin' with Kurt-- "Soup du Jour" (ST'd; Innerspace Records) 31.Fripp and Eno-- "An Index of Metals" (Evening Star; Editions EG Records) thanks, Chuck From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Sat Jun 2 15:41:17 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:41:17 -0400 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question Message-ID: On Wed, 30 May 2001 15:36:40 -0400, Stephan Forstner wrote: >I think the Flicknife single versions of LotH and TGatR are the bonus >tracks >on the Cleopatra CD reissue of Freq (and the credits on that list Lemmy as >playing bass on one of the 2 tracks). The Hawkwind Connection versions of >these 2 songs are the same as the versions on the See For Miles CD reissue >of Hype (will double-check that tonight). ... Just checked my copy of 'Hawkwind Connection'. The versions of "Greenfly" and "Hornets" are definitely NOT the Flicknife single versions that were on the Cleopatra 'Freq Revisited' CD (as has already been surmised). They are also not -exactly- the same as the 'Hype' album versions, but sound like rough/preliminary/partial mixes of those versions. The "rhythm" tracks sound exactly the same, but there are sounds on the 'Hype' album versions that aren't on the 'Hawkwind Connection' versions, which leads me to believe that these (HC versions) are early, rough mixes of the tracks (if they actually were originally "demos", they were still used as the basis for the final tracks - not an uncommon practice - some Who songs, for instance, started as Townshend demos that were simply overdubbed by the rest of the band to finish them). The 'Hype' album versions are definitely better than the HC versions IMO, being that they're the "completed" versions. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jun 2 16:24:41 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 21:24:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan Message-ID: What is the current issue of Hawkfan and price? Dave From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jun 2 16:32:47 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 21:32:47 +0100 Subject: Roadhawks ( Re: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind) Message-ID: Roadhawks- ah, yes superb. The number of people I lent that to who subsequently came to gigs!! The early eighties: Roadhawks and Levitation - the pincer movement PR. Dave -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 01 June 2001 12:17 Subject: Re: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind How come >Roadhawks never made it to CD? > >FoFP > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Sat Jun 2 15:50:46 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:50:46 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights - Naz Bar Message-ID: On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:20:31 -0700, Kevin Sommers wrote: >Quick & dirty: Naz Bar sounds to me like they're jumping on the cocktail >music craze of a year ago, with a World Music slant.........it definitely >does NOT sound like anything I would identify as Grenas/Del Rio >stuff....think cheesy. Keep in mind that they *do* play techno/rave-type events where they're *definitely* not making spacerock. And that Grenas is the "extra" (offstage) member of "DJ Me DJ You" (formerly Sukia), who sound quite a bit like what you're describing ... (Actually, the "cocktail lounge" music craze - Combustible Edison et. al. [who were actually good when they were an alternarock band called Christmas] - was more like five years ago ... most of the SF bands working that genre called it quits well over a year ago.) >p.s. Maybe 'cheesy' was their intention?..... Whether or not 'cheesy' was the intention, I'm sure that the overall sound IS intentional. Give 'em credit for diversity, but saving your pennies for the next Farflung CD is probably the best course of action ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Sat Jun 2 16:37:20 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:37:20 -0500 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan Message-ID: You know, it's actually been a couple of years since I've heard from Brian Tawn. Has anyone corresponded with him lately? Since the advent of the internet (and since Brian didn't have a computer the last time I talked to him) it seems like, sadly, he is no longer in the fore in terms of Hawk news. I hope he's doing well. For at least 15 years he was the #1 source for all information concerning Hawkwind and we shouldn't ever forget that. I don't even know if he's still producing "Hawkfan"... I remember he didn't send out issues 27 and 28 to overseas fans (that would include me) and I forget what his reasoning was, but to this day I regret not getting those issues! Maybe he still has some lying around that he can mail out. My last issue was 26. Anyone know anything? Is Hawkfan still being produced? If Brian still doesn't have a computer, we should all be good sports and chip in and buy him one, in repayment for all he's done for the Hawkwind community. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com What is the current issue of Hawkfan and price? Dave From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Jun 2 18:56:50 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:56:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Back Catalogue Message-ID: well it looks to me that they clearly haven't checked the availability of items that are not in stock yet they say can still be ordered for you. Could let down a few folk if unaware - the dangers of having a web site you can't keep up to date!! Many of the prices are close to normal ones (well, our normal anyway), and they don't appear to have anything we can't supply at CDS, so I guess you pay your money, decide on whether you'd like to deal with a human being who's real on the other end of your line, etc, etc. Still, handy for some, I suppose. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rx" To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 7:51 PM Subject: Re: HW: Back Catalogue > Those of you who are in need of boosting your > HW collection: chekkout the following prices and titles: > > www.towerrecords.co.uk > > Alien 4 ?9.88 > Levitation ?7.39 > Live 79 ?7.39 > Palace Springs ?7.39 > SonicBoomKillers ?7.39 (Remixes of singles & b sides etc) > Space Bandits ?7.39 > Lord of Light ?8.45 (remixes and stuff inc.single mix of paradox etc) > Golden Void ?10.56 (2cd compilation & interview) > Out & Intake ?10.56 > Best of Friends & Relations ?3.16 (!!!!!) > > ------------------------------------------------- > > www.cow.co.uk > > WEIRD 6 ?12.32 > Undisclosed File ?11.32 > Choose your Masques ?11.20 > California Brainstorm ?12.48 > Electric Tepee ?8.60 > Elf and the Hawk ?11.62 > Ambient Anarchists ?8.81 > > ------------------------------------------------- > > www.hmv.co.uk > > Hawkwind (1st Album) ?8.49 > Live Chronicles ?8.49 (2cd issue - 2nd disc is compilation/remixes) > Family Tree ?11.49 From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jun 2 18:49:10 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:49:10 -0000 Subject: NEW ICU/ JUDGE TREV/NIK TURNER CDs AVAILABLE Message-ID: NEW ICU/ JUDGE TREV/NIK TURNER CD?s AVAILABLE >From http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk - our new website. Formerly ?Judgement Records? JUDGEMENT AND THUNDER 2 Inner City Unit/Imperial Pompadours More hits from Judge Trev and Nik Turner including the highly illegal ?Insolence across the Nation? REVOLUTION AND REBELLION Inner City Unit/Atomgods The revolutionary works of Judge trev ? masterpiece! Jerry Kranitz - Aural Innovations radio show........................Love it man! Mike Coleman Deltawave distribution????????????? also.....popped the CD "revolution and rebellion" by Trev in, just to see if he really put tunes on my copy, and I kid you NOT.....everything in the room including me, got bashed over the head...... couldn't turn the thing off for the life of me, despite it being daytime, and no beer..... I say this stuff, not because he (judge) insults me with language even the nastiest of we Americans don't even use, but because it's a rip-roaring great CD........ It's got perfect transitions between songs, and includes wonderful stuff not before on disc........... it includes tracks from the VERY RARE "WOW" LP, not the least of which is the track "Atlantic Waves", and, aside from being magnificent, has a WONDERFUL DOSE of Nik Turner flute in it....... I thought at least one of you might like to know this....... m c -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright ? 2001 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved. Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help Also ?Now You Know the Score? Judge Trevs ICU 1997 ?7.99 each + postage Send check, PO, IMO to: Real Festival Music 34a Upper Lewes Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN23FH UK Postage 1 CD UK 44p Europe 96p Rest of World ?1.32p 2 CDs UK 66p Europe ?1.50p Rest of World ?2.30p 3 CDs UK 87p Europe ?2.00p Rest of World ?3.00p Ron Tree, Judge Trev, Dino Ferari, and Trips are appearing with their new band ?VAGINA? at the Hamburg hawkfest 23 June ? other gigs to be announced. Coming soon? ?GOD AND MAN? new major album from Judge Trev, Featuring Nik Turner, Harvey Bainbridge, Ron Tree, Dino Ferari >From: ANDREW GARIBALDI >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Back Catalogue >Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:56:50 +0100 > >well it looks to me that they clearly haven't checked the availability of >items that are not in stock yet they say can still be ordered for you. >Could >let down a few folk if unaware - the dangers of having a web site you >can't >keep up to date!! >Many of the prices are close to normal ones (well, our normal anyway), and >they don't appear to have anything we can't supply at CDS, so I guess you >pay your money, decide on whether you'd like to deal with a human being >who's real on the other end of your line, etc, etc. >Still, handy for some, I suppose. >Andy Garibaldi >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rx" >To: >Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 7:51 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Back Catalogue > > > > Those of you who are in need of boosting your > > HW collection: chekkout the following prices and titles: > > > > www.towerrecords.co.uk > > > > Alien 4 ?9.88 > > Levitation ?7.39 > > Live 79 ?7.39 > > Palace Springs ?7.39 > > SonicBoomKillers ?7.39 (Remixes of singles & b sides etc) > > Space Bandits ?7.39 > > Lord of Light ?8.45 (remixes and stuff inc.single mix of paradox etc) > > Golden Void ?10.56 (2cd compilation & interview) > > Out & Intake ?10.56 > > Best of Friends & Relations ?3.16 (!!!!!) > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > www.cow.co.uk > > > > WEIRD 6 ?12.32 > > Undisclosed File ?11.32 > > Choose your Masques ?11.20 > > California Brainstorm ?12.48 > > Electric Tepee ?8.60 > > Elf and the Hawk ?11.62 > > Ambient Anarchists ?8.81 > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > www.hmv.co.uk > > > > Hawkwind (1st Album) ?8.49 > > Live Chronicles ?8.49 (2cd issue - 2nd disc is compilation/remixes) > > Family Tree ?11.49 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jun 2 19:52:10 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:52:10 -0000 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan Message-ID: hear hear >From: John Majka >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan >Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:37:20 -0500 > >You know, it's actually been a couple of years since I've heard from Brian >Tawn. Has anyone corresponded with him lately? Since the advent of the >internet (and since Brian didn't have a computer the last time I talked to >him) it seems like, sadly, he is no longer in the fore in terms of Hawk >news. I hope he's doing well. For at least 15 years he was the #1 source >for all information concerning Hawkwind and we shouldn't ever forget that. >I don't even know if he's still producing "Hawkfan"... I remember he didn't >send out issues 27 and 28 to overseas fans (that would include me) and I >forget what his reasoning was, but to this day I regret not getting those >issues! Maybe he still has some lying around that he can mail out. My >last >issue was 26. Anyone know anything? Is Hawkfan still being produced? If >Brian still doesn't have a computer, we should all be good sports and chip >in and buy him one, in repayment for all he's done for the Hawkwind >community. >John Majka >jmajka2 at home.com > > >What is the current issue of Hawkfan and price? > >Dave _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Jun 2 21:44:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:44:57 -0600 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: good idea....I have thought of that in past...... let's do it......(FOR REAL...he DOES DESERVE IT) mike c >>You know, it's actually been a couple of years since I've heard from Brian >>Tawn. Has anyone corresponded with him lately? Since the advent of the >>internet (and since Brian didn't have a computer the last time I talked to >>him) it seems like, sadly, he is no longer in the fore in terms of Hawk >>news. I hope he's doing well. For at least 15 years he was the #1 source >>for all information concerning Hawkwind and we shouldn't ever forget that. >>I don't even know if he's still producing "Hawkfan"... I remember he didn't >>send out issues 27 and 28 to overseas fans (that would include me) and I >>forget what his reasoning was, but to this day I regret not getting those >>issues! Maybe he still has some lying around that he can mail out. My >>last >>issue was 26. Anyone know anything? Is Hawkfan still being produced? If >>Brian still doesn't have a computer, we should all be good sports and chip >>in and buy him one, in repayment for all he's done for the Hawkwind >>community. >>John Majka >>jmajka2 at home.com From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jun 2 21:32:38 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 01:32:38 -0000 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan Message-ID: mike c stinks >From: mike c >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan >Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:44:57 -0600 > > good idea....I have thought of that in past...... > >let's do it......(FOR REAL...he DOES DESERVE IT) > >mike c > > >>You know, it's actually been a couple of years since I've heard from >Brian > >>Tawn. Has anyone corresponded with him lately? Since the advent of the > >>internet (and since Brian didn't have a computer the last time I talked >to > >>him) it seems like, sadly, he is no longer in the fore in terms of Hawk > >>news. I hope he's doing well. For at least 15 years he was the #1 >source > >>for all information concerning Hawkwind and we shouldn't ever forget >that. > >>I don't even know if he's still producing "Hawkfan"... I remember he >didn't > >>send out issues 27 and 28 to overseas fans (that would include me) and I > >>forget what his reasoning was, but to this day I regret not getting >those > >>issues! Maybe he still has some lying around that he can mail out. My > >>last > >>issue was 26. Anyone know anything? Is Hawkfan still being produced? >If > >>Brian still doesn't have a computer, we should all be good sports and >chip > >>in and buy him one, in repayment for all he's done for the Hawkwind > >>community. > >>John Majka > >>jmajka2 at home.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM Sat Jun 2 22:15:37 2001 From: spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM (Space Wreck) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:15:37 -0700 Subject: HW: Brixton Caption Competition In-Reply-To: <000e01c0ea16$f1b00a40$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: --- Rich Warren wrote: > <> > > http://www.btinternet.com/~rich.warren/brixton1.jpg > > Come up with a good caption for the picture on the > link "Seriously guys, does this haircut make me look stupid?" "My jealous wife would only let me out of the house if I wore my chick repellant suit." "But my mom told me I looked cool!" MWood __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Sun Jun 3 00:32:54 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 00:32:54 EDT Subject: Tony Ashton R.I.P...".The Resurrection Shuffle" Message-ID: paice, ashton, and lord also released a few lps in the mid/late 70's...relevant to deep purple fans as collectibles only... bobm From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sun Jun 3 03:48:24 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 09:48:24 +0200 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan In-Reply-To: <001501c0eba3$d2c9a1c0$e7d1b718@cc177845c> Message-ID: Hi At 15:37 02.06.2001 -0500, you wrote: >What is the current issue of Hawkfan ? It's number 28 Bernhard From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Jun 3 07:19:19 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (P. Echelon) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 05:19:19 -0600 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: <20010603021537.42142.qmail@web12705.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear admirers of Starship HW>>>> I just got a phone call from a large collecter of HW in Germany who asked me to post for any INFO on the US Forces Transcription Service LP, "Dragonfly", that is a comp of "Jefferson Starship and Hawkwind"..... can anyone provide any real useful info where this is concerned, such as.....what does the sleeve look like????? whatever.....has anyone SEEN this item...... I know it DOES exist... Please help on this if you are able........... eye watching From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sun Jun 3 06:52:36 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:52:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan Message-ID: Brian Tawn is alive and well, and continues to mail out newletters whenever there is anything of value to report. Long may he continue to do so! Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:37 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan > You know, it's actually been a couple of years since I've heard from Brian > Tawn. Has anyone corresponded with him lately? Since the advent of the > internet (and since Brian didn't have a computer the last time I talked to > him) it seems like, sadly, he is no longer in the fore in terms of Hawk > news. I hope he's doing well. For at least 15 years he was the #1 source > for all information concerning Hawkwind and we shouldn't ever forget that. > I don't even know if he's still producing "Hawkfan"... I remember he didn't > send out issues 27 and 28 to overseas fans (that would include me) and I > forget what his reasoning was, but to this day I regret not getting those > issues! Maybe he still has some lying around that he can mail out. My last > issue was 26. Anyone know anything? Is Hawkfan still being produced? If > Brian still doesn't have a computer, we should all be good sports and chip > in and buy him one, in repayment for all he's done for the Hawkwind > community. > John Majka > jmajka2 at home.com > > > What is the current issue of Hawkfan and price? > > Dave From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Jun 3 08:17:09 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:47:09 +0930 Subject: OFF: SHOW NEAR ALLENTOWN PA... Message-ID: I have family living in the States so I really hope it all goes well for you guys cause I'll eventually make it back one day and would love to catch a show!! It was a Buzz to meet Jim at the BeeHive - He's a very cool dude!! All the BEST!! Michael Blackman ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Lennon To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 12:24 AM Subject: OFF: SHOW NEAR ALLENTOWN PA... > Hello, this is parts of an email from Jim Lascko regarding a show near > Allentown. > most of the email snipped out: > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > The Solar Fire Lightshow is doing a show with Quarkspace, Nucleon, and > Arttek near Allentown, Pa next Saturday on the 9th. > > This is Cheff Geoff's (the SD > festivals caterer) show and I would like for it to be successful. It > should be a good time! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Jun 3 08:35:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:05:01 +0930 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan Message-ID: I only recently learned of this GREAT and knowledgable man - having limited ((make that NO))contact with the worlds legions of Hawkfans - untill the discovery of computers - Internet & BOC/Hawkwind etc. And I would imagine there is a lot I still do not know. Anyway - If Brian has no Computer and there was a legitimate way to pool the dosh together to get the dude one Let us know - I'll be in it for sure - Just as soon as the spare cash becomes available and after I have posted some fine deserving people there goodies........ ** Nearly everything is packed and waiting those little postage stamps to be licked and stuck Peace ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 6:07 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan > You know, it's actually been a couple of years since I've heard from Brian > Tawn. Has anyone corresponded with him lately? Since the advent of the > internet (and since Brian didn't have a computer the last time I talked to > him) it seems like, sadly, he is no longer in the fore in terms of Hawk > news. I hope he's doing well. For at least 15 years he was the #1 source > for all information concerning Hawkwind and we shouldn't ever forget that. > I don't even know if he's still producing "Hawkfan"... I remember he didn't > send out issues 27 and 28 to overseas fans (that would include me) and I > forget what his reasoning was, but to this day I regret not getting those > issues! Maybe he still has some lying around that he can mail out. My last > issue was 26. Anyone know anything? Is Hawkfan still being produced? If > Brian still doesn't have a computer, we should all be good sports and chip > in and buy him one, in repayment for all he's done for the Hawkwind > community. > John Majka > jmajka2 at home.com > > > What is the current issue of Hawkfan and price? > > Dave > From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Jun 3 08:55:37 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:55:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: Crowley deck In-Reply-To: <3AE7AA5E.5EF173E9@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: I've got it as good as new!! Also most of his books never read mint What can you swap for them? Ben -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of linuxchaos Sent: 26 April 2001 05:56 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Crowley deck "christmu at eunet.no" wrote: > Anyone know where I can order the Crowley Tarot deck per cash or cheque? > Can't use credit cards otherwise I'd get it from Amazon or somewhere. > Chr. > > ObCD: Suicide - Suicide From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Jun 3 08:56:40 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:56:40 +0100 Subject: HW: New video Footage In-Reply-To: <001f01c0ccee$dcd986e0$e7d1b718@cc177845c> Message-ID: A few guys in the states now have this as NTSC -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of John Majka Sent: 24 April 2001 19:46 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: New video Footage Hey there... This is a video that interests me, but I am in the USA however, so I would require the NTSC format, which I am guessing you can't do? John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > I have an hour of footage filmed myself as follows: > > 30 Mins Huw Lloyd Langton (Acoustic) March 2001 London > 3 Mins Huwey at Croydon Fairfield halls 2001 > > Following Hawkwind Tracks Croydon 2001 > > Golden Void > Assasins of allah > Spiral Galaxy > Motorway city > Hurry on sundown > > Shot from front row! > > If anyone wants copies email me please. > > Ben From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Jun 3 08:59:46 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:29:46 +0930 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan Message-ID: Hail Captn Bl at ck!! Does he have a kom - pooter ((Brian)) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 8:22 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan > Brian Tawn is alive and well, and continues to mail out newletters whenever > there is anything of value to report. > > Long may he continue to do so! > > Captain Bl at ck. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Majka > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan > > > > You know, it's actually been a couple of years since I've heard from Brian > > Tawn. Has anyone corresponded with him lately? Since the advent of the > > internet (and since Brian didn't have a computer the last time I talked to > > him) it seems like, sadly, he is no longer in the fore in terms of Hawk > > news. I hope he's doing well. For at least 15 years he was the #1 source > > for all information concerning Hawkwind and we shouldn't ever forget that. > > I don't even know if he's still producing "Hawkfan"... I remember he > didn't > > send out issues 27 and 28 to overseas fans (that would include me) and I > > forget what his reasoning was, but to this day I regret not getting those > > issues! Maybe he still has some lying around that he can mail out. My > last > > issue was 26. Anyone know anything? Is Hawkfan still being produced? If > > Brian still doesn't have a computer, we should all be good sports and chip > > in and buy him one, in repayment for all he's done for the Hawkwind > > community. > > John Majka > > jmajka2 at home.com > > > > > > What is the current issue of Hawkfan and price? > > > > Dave > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sun Jun 3 09:12:01 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:12:01 +0800 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: You nearly gave me a heart attack! I HAVE an album by Jefferson Starship called "Dragon Fly" released in 1974 but no Hawkwind on it. alas. The closest it gets to a Hawkwind number is a song called "Hyperdrive" which goes for a length of 7:39....written by Grace Slick and Pete Sears. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Echelon" To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 7:19 PM Subject: Re: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" > Dear admirers of Starship HW>>>> > > I just got a phone call from a large collecter of HW in Germany who asked > me to post for any INFO on the US Forces Transcription Service LP, > "Dragonfly", that is a comp of "Jefferson Starship and Hawkwind"..... > > can anyone provide any real useful info where this is concerned, such > as.....what does the sleeve look like????? > > whatever.....has anyone SEEN this item...... > > I know it DOES exist... > > > Please help on this if you are able........... > > > eye watching > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Jun 3 09:33:31 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Skidmark On the Underpants Of Humanity) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 23:03:31 +0930 Subject: Off XXX - dirty - filthy - XXX - OFF Message-ID: Hi Due to popular request I have been asked to appear in charachter that some may find rather disgusting But perhaps some will get a chuckle signed me From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Jun 3 10:44:24 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Yum Yum Veggies) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:44:24 -0600 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: <039301c0ec2e$c7866ba0$88a13bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: Sorry Bill...SERIOUSLY!!!!! but the LP we discuss is REAL@!!!! maybe the title isn't "Dragonfly", I thought it was, but it is an IMPOSSIBLY RARE split LP, issued within the US Armed Forces, with one side of HW, and one side JS...... It won't be a regular record by any means..... I believe Roger Neville Neil(sp?) got one, and it ended up in the clutches of the "higher hawks"..... it's real!!!! PS...my mom (this for you Wilfried) has a friend who has an Uncle that was a drummer in JS, or something like this, and she checked with him, and he checked with other JS personnel, but it came back a disappointing "dry run". m From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Jun 3 10:02:28 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 23:32:28 +0930 Subject: An apology to all vegetarians Message-ID: Sorry if any felt threatened by the impending doom of being deprived of vegetable matter and then subsequently being eaten while you lay in lethargic heaps from lack of nutrition..... It was all but a mere fantasy.... signed the Carniverous Peoples front of judea From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Jun 3 10:16:54 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:16:54 EDT Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: In a message dated 6/3/01 6:07:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > > > > I just got a phone call from a large collecter of HW in Germany who asked > > me to post for any INFO on the US Forces Transcription Service LP, > > "Dragonfly", that is a comp of "Jefferson Starship and Hawkwind"..... > > > > can anyone provide any real useful info where this is concerned, such > > as.....what does the sleeve look like????? > > > > whatever.....has anyone SEEN this item...... > > I haven't seen this title, but at record shows I've seen dozens of titles in the series, and most of them were super plain, black & white with text naming the performers/songs, or like black & orangish-brown covers. the last show I was at, this table had a few boxes of the US forces records, and I held my breath as I looked for Hawkwind on each one.... most of them were just pop bands from the 60's or like Sammy Davis jr and stuff. this one is a good catch if you find it bob From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sun Jun 3 10:33:47 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:33:47 +0800 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: Hi Mike Yes SERIOUSLY.... I do know that the above mentioned album is a double album. I've had this album for so long it's starting to fossilize so who to say how readily available the USAFTS album was when I got "Firefly." Maybe the Dragonfly release that I have is the Jefferson Starship side of the HW/JS USAFTS album. It does say on the album that it was released previously and gives that serial number of the previous release. Maybe someone on the list can give the serial number of the "real" album and see if it matches the serial number that IS mentioned on the album. Then I will know if it's the JS side of the USAFTS album. Then my next question will be, why wasn't the HW side of the album released on its own like JS did for their fans? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yum Yum Veggies" To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 10:44 PM Subject: Re: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" > Sorry Bill...SERIOUSLY!!!!! > > but the LP we discuss is REAL@!!!! maybe the title isn't "Dragonfly", I > thought it was, but it is an IMPOSSIBLY RARE split LP, issued within the US > Armed Forces, with one side of HW, and one side JS...... > > It won't be a regular record by any means..... > > I believe Roger Neville Neil(sp?) got one, and it ended up in the clutches > of the "higher hawks"..... > > it's real!!!! > > PS...my mom (this for you Wilfried) has a friend who has an Uncle that was > a drummer in JS, or something like this, and she checked with him, and he > checked with other JS personnel, but it came back a disappointing "dry run". > > m > From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Sun Jun 3 10:51:37 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 09:51:37 -0500 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: I've actually seen the Jefferson Airplane / Hawkwind split LP. There was someone at Strange Daze 1998 who had one for sale, but I had foolishly not come prepared to lay out the major cash for such an item. Honestly I don't recall what the cover looked like. There wasn't anything "unreleased" on it, by the way. It just contained some studio tracks from "Hall of the Mountain Grill." John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > > > > > > I just got a phone call from a large collecter of HW in Germany who asked > > > me to post for any INFO on the US Forces Transcription Service LP, > > > "Dragonfly", that is a comp of "Jefferson Starship and Hawkwind"..... > > > > > > can anyone provide any real useful info where this is concerned, such > > > as.....what does the sleeve look like????? > > > > > > whatever.....has anyone SEEN this item...... > > > > > I haven't seen this title, but at record shows I've seen dozens of titles in > the series, and most of them were super plain, black & white with text naming > the performers/songs, or like black & orangish-brown covers. > the last show I was at, this table had a few boxes of the US forces records, > and I held my breath as I looked for Hawkwind on each one.... > most of them were just pop bands from the 60's or like Sammy Davis jr and > stuff. > this one is a good catch if you find it > bob From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Jun 3 13:11:21 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:11:21 -0600 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: <002101c0ec3c$b11dffa0$e7d1b718@cc177845c> Message-ID: John PLEASE TELL ME THERE IS SOMETHING MISSING HERE!!!!! I was at SD98, and I recall John Zsigray(great dude)(friend of Lascko) was there selling his records, where I got my test-press of Doremi, which I considered to be the pick of the litter.......and made the trip worthwhile aside of the music...... I recall John telling me there was a guy at the next SD(where I was NOT), that spoke of having one, and would consider selling it, but the last I heard the guy never came through...... can you shed more light on WHO was selling this, and WHERE they were selling it????? John was up at the tables, and other than Jim and Carol Collins, I didn't really see others offering vinyl....... If that LP was there....I would have gotten it......even with a body trail if necessary (embarrassingly)..(and jokingly).....(but I almost ALWAYS pull it off) are you POSITIVE it was SD98???????? Mike...who now is miserable, having had a bad connection and just lost a Greek Space Ritual auction.... I need something to break.....BAD! m From rdc at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Jun 3 12:11:36 2001 From: rdc at NTLWORLD.COM (Richard Crossley) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:11:36 +0100 Subject: Norwich e1 festival In-Reply-To: <002101c0ec3c$b11dffa0$e7d1b718@cc177845c> Message-ID: Does any one know if HW will be playing at the Norwich e1 festival, Mission Control mentions it but there is no reference to them on the festival web site [http://www.festivalsrus.co.uk]. Cheers, Richard. From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Sun Jun 3 12:31:15 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:31:15 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 2 Jun 2001 to 3 Jun 2001 (#2001-224) Message-ID: I already mentioned to Arin that I work for a Digital Print Company, if this is a goer then I could scan the book, and pass it back as PDF, onlyt in greyscale though owing to my machine limitations (Printers not PC's) It would be at 300 or 600 DPI and ti could even be made searchable using my collection of Adobe products !! Let me know the plan guys if this gets Okayed. Mark (Hasbeen). > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 05:55:38 -0400 > From: Mark Von Bargen > Subject: Re: HW: RoadHawks, Book, Opal Butterfly > > Steve, > > If I can find my copy of the book then you are welcome to > borrow it. If > somebody has digital scanning facilities then the book could > be published > online (on Mission Control, perhaps - Kris, Dave what would > you think). > > If nobody has the facilities then I will try a couple of > contacts I know in > the industry (after I get the right permissions). > > Mark From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Jun 3 11:30:18 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:30:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: Summer Solstice Spacefest 2001 Message-ID: Hey... Wish this was in the 'east.' :( Doug, tell me how it goes. Grakkl (FAA) "Summer Solstice Spacefest 2001" Friday, June 15, 8:00 pm at CELL Space CELL is located at 2050 Bryant Street, between 18th & 19th Sts., in the Northeast Mission, San Francisco Admission is $8-12 sliding scale, however... Joining the Bike Coalition ($20) that night gets you in for free! Bands featured represent the entire spectrum of "space" music: SubArachnoid Space (space rock) Mushroom (eclectic jazz psychedelic jams) Cookin' w/ Kurt (ambient and 70's analog synth grooves) The Neurohumors (space jazz) Jai Young Kim (ambient) These acts will be accompanied by multi-screen visuals, including the public premier of the video "Crystal Mysteries" by Bill Kaunitz. This event will also be a benefit for the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition and their efforts to create the Mission Creek Bikeway and Greenbelt, which would pass within a few blocks of CELLspace. Info and maps of the proposed route will be on display during the show. From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Sun Jun 3 13:29:11 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 12:29:11 -0500 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: Ah yes, John whatever-his-name-is was selling some fantastic treasures... I bought all that I could afford but there were many more. Specifically, he had some posters I wanted, and a vinyl "Glastonbury Fayre" as well as a number of odd 12" singles and vinyl rarities like the japanese "Doremi" which has Silver Machine on it, I believe. A shame I didn't run into you there, Mike, as I had actually bought any number of records off of you years previously back in those halcion days before Cleopatra existed and Brian Perera could get some interesting artifacts... I remember chatting with you on the phone a couple hours after Nik and Del had left your house....wish I would've been able to talk to them! But I digress--! Anyway I don't know who the guy was with the record, but he was one of the more inconspicuous vendors there, kind of on the side where the concession area was. I'd love to go to another Hawk-related festival purely for the merchandise available at such a show, even the Hawks don't make it! Chuck Johnson, another Hawk fan I've traded with for ages was also at SD98 though we never met one another. In fact, the whole time I was there I didn't talk to another single person that I had known previously, although in retrospect they were all there! Just general reclusiveness I suppose. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > John PLEASE TELL ME THERE IS SOMETHING MISSING HERE!!!!! > > I was at SD98, and I recall John Zsigray(great dude)(friend of Lascko) was > there selling his records, where I got my test-press of Doremi, which I > considered to be the pick of the litter.......and made the trip worthwhile > aside of the music...... > > I recall John telling me there was a guy at the next SD(where I was NOT), > that spoke of having one, and would consider selling it, but the last I > heard the guy never came through...... > > can you shed more light on WHO was selling this, and WHERE they were > selling it????? > > John was up at the tables, and other than Jim and Carol Collins, I didn't > really see others offering vinyl....... > > If that LP was there....I would have gotten it......even with a body trail > if necessary (embarrassingly)..(and jokingly).....(but I almost ALWAYS pull > it off) > > are you POSITIVE it was SD98???????? > > Mike...who now is miserable, having had a bad connection and just lost a > Greek Space Ritual auction.... > > I need something to break.....BAD! > > m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Jun 3 15:12:52 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:12:52 -0600 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: <000f01c0ec52$b423eaa0$e7d1b718@cc177845c> Message-ID: John!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol !!!!!! AHA AHA AHA!!!! I thought that was you, but wasn't positive!!!! and didn't want to embarrass myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I missed speaking to you, but was afraid to get back in touch when "the smoke" cleared,,,,(and as you came to know, it had a habit of returning)..... man you were great, I just couldn't keep up, too instable, as now, but different....... I hope it's truly forgiven...... the Jap Doremi sold there was one of mine previously, that I believe is now owned by Darrin McKeehan,,,,,,,,,, I saw the posters....I was too late on a couple,(the ones I would've wanted) and I had to save beer money since beer was my food for A WEEK!!!!!(arghh!!) I was a complete zombified wastoid, and in a way, I'm glad you didn't "encounter" me there, as it was embarrasing, and I always had alot of respect where you were concerned,,,,,,,,, GOD BLESS I'M GLAD YOU FINALLY revealed that IS you!!!!! Now I have to go get my blankie and shutter that I lost that LP there, and a Greek Space Ritual today!!!! Karma!!!! how it works!!! (maybe)??? More when I thaw out... mike c Chuck Johnson..the same!!! where is he??? not on the list??? I did meet him there, but I probably sprayed beer foam on him....... I DID get to spend time with Doug Bates, who like you, I knew!!!!! and LIke You is a great human being. From steve.readhead at BIGFOOT.COM Sun Jun 3 14:37:25 2001 From: steve.readhead at BIGFOOT.COM (Steve) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 19:37:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan Message-ID: Excellent idea! Brian has done some brilliant work for the Hawkwind cause, I have been getting his newsletters and fanzines since day one and would certainly like to help him out. So lets do something to help, it does not need to be anything all singing and dancing, we could properly pool all the spare bit and pieces that everybody always seems to keep around in case the are needed and build him one I have some bits and an spare printer (old but better than nothing). First ask Brian, he might not want one does any know him? Steve... From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Jun 3 15:04:24 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:04:24 -0400 Subject: OFF: Summer Solstice Spacefest 2001 Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:30:18 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >Doug, tell me how it goes. Will do! Unfortunately, I won't be able to catch all of the event since my dad's going to be in town that weekend. But I will be performing with Mushroom ... >"Summer Solstice Spacefest 2001" Friday, June 15, 8:00 pm at CELL Space > >Bands featured represent the entire spectrum of "space" music: > >SubArachnoid Space (space rock) >Mushroom (eclectic jazz psychedelic jams) >Cookin' w/ Kurt (ambient and 70's analog synth grooves) >The Neurohumors (space jazz) >Jai Young Kim (ambient) And don't forget that it benefits a good cause (San Francisco Bicycle Coalition) ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Jun 3 15:10:42 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:10:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 5/26 Message-ID: On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:52:03 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >15.The Colored Plank-- "Black Ferris Wheel" (Psychedelic Psauna comp; >Delerium) This odd band has always been a favorite of mine (they sound somewhat like a garage/R&B band who've been dosed with some really BAD strychnine-laced LSD and are trying to claw their way back from the "World of..."). I believe their only other release was on a giveaway (either vinyl 7" or flexi) record with 'Freakbeat' magazine, before the editors gave it up and became Delerium / Freak Emporium. If anyone knows ANYTHING about The Coloured Plank, I'd love to hear it ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Sun Jun 3 15:34:31 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 20:34:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan In-Reply-To: <00b001c0ec5c$3d105200$d3dfff3e@steve> Message-ID: I know Brian. He lives just 15 miles from me. If you piece together what you want to say to him I could give him a call one evening. Alasdair On 3 Jun 01, at 19:37, Steve wrote: > Excellent idea! > > Brian has done some brilliant work for the Hawkwind cause, I have been getting his newsletters and fanzines since day one and would certainly like to help him out. > So lets do something to help, it does not need to be anything all singing and dancing, we could properly pool all the spare bit and pieces that everybody always seems to keep around in case the are needed and build him one I have some bits and an spare printer (old but better than nothing). > > First ask Brian, he might not want one does any know him? > > Steve... > From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Sun Jun 3 16:15:54 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:15:54 EDT Subject: HW: tour programmes Message-ID: Dear Bernhard Wow , thats a pretty comprehensive list of programmes, just got one more to add... I have a copy of the Treworgey Tree Fayre Programme (HW played twice), but I've not looked at it in a while and I'm not sure how much HW are mentioned in it. I'll Dig it out and find out in due course. Love N'Peace N' All things Hawkwind Alistair From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jun 3 17:18:53 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:18:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan Message-ID: Brian has, as far as I'm aware, have e-mail. The last e-mail from Marion L-L also winged its way to Brian. As all agree Brian was/is the main man has far as Hawknews. I remember sending off a letter to the address in WotEoT in 78 and getting a whole stack of stuff from Brian. Hawkfan mags were always worth the wait, although it has to be said that Brian always remained tight-lipped with regard to the "juicier" rumours. Brians letters and mags along with Trev Hughes letters in the early eighties kept the flag flying albeit in different ways. Dave From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jun 3 17:24:55 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:24:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: Is this gig still going to happen? Will there be a Scottish gig? I intend to go to the Newcastle gig - anyone else? Dave From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sun Jun 3 23:12:34 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 23:12:34 -0400 Subject: BOC: further remaster delay? Message-ID: Popped on Amazon, just for shucks and it said that the 4 remasters are out the 3rd of July. can anyone confirm this? Jason From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Jun 3 23:09:52 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:39:52 +0930 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan Message-ID: I have some spare parts but some is somewhat outdated I have some 16mb, 8mb & 4mb fpm RAM (is that right? FPM) i'm pretty sure one of the 16mb ram is EDO hey - theres a box of stuff anyway - some of it is probably crap but - whatever Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:07 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan Excellent idea! Brian has done some brilliant work for the Hawkwind cause, I have been getting his newsletters and fanzines since day one and would certainly like to help him out. So lets do something to help, it does not need to be anything all singing and dancing, we could properly pool all the spare bit and pieces that everybody always seems to keep around in case the are needed and build him one I have some bits and an spare printer (old but better than nothing). First ask Brian, he might not want one does any know him? Steve... From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Mon Jun 4 02:40:33 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 02:40:33 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 2 Jun 2001 to 3 Jun 2001 (#2001-224) Message-ID: Mark, I don't recall any colour text or photos within the book so greyscale would probably be ok. I'm going from memory so if somebody who has the book closer to hand than me could confirm this it would help. Otherwise I am going to search for my copy tonight. Mark (The scouse german one) On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:31:15 +0100, Mark Lee wrote: >I already mentioned to Arin that I work for a Digital >Print Company, if this is a goer then I could scan the >book, and pass it back as PDF, onlyt in greyscale though >owing to my machine limitations (Printers not PC's) >It would be at 300 or 600 DPI and ti could even be made >searchable using my collection of Adobe products !! > >Let me know the plan guys if this gets Okayed. > >Mark (Hasbeen). From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Jun 4 03:08:22 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:08:22 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: ahem - which Samantha?? Sam -----Original Message----- From: Trev (Judge) [mailto:judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: 01 June 2001 19:58 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Dear Mike Toddler, First, you spread malicious rumours about my age - then you make improper advances towards my beautiful new blushing bride. Yes, Layla and I were married yesterday - and I told her my true age - 28 - and if you get any more "upity" ideas - I'm becoming a mormon and I;m marrying Samantha as well! So there Young Trev _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Jun 4 03:25:59 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 03:25:59 -0400 Subject: HW: Back Catalogue Message-ID: Ah but you get a much better range at; http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=HAWKWIND&s=1151 With prices starting at ?2.27! And going up to STRANGE DAZE '97 ?40.82 Japan double CD For the rich amongst us Stuart:-) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:51:49 -0400 From: Rx Subject: Re: HW: Back Catalogue Those of you who are in need of boosting your HW collection: chekkout the following prices and titles: www.towerrecords.co.uk Alien 4 ?9.88 Levitation ?7.39 Live 79 ?7.39 Palace Springs ?7.39 SonicBoomKillers ?7.39 (Remixes of singles & b sides etc) Space Bandits ?7.39 Lord of Light ?8.45 (remixes and stuff inc.single mix of paradox etc) Golden Void ?10.56 (2cd compilation & interview) Out & Intake ?10.56 Best of Friends & Relations ?3.16 (!!!!!) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 4 04:41:24 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Tom Mahler) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 02:41:24 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D904AAA77B@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: ahem - which Samantha?? Sam ******************************************************************************** Trev! oh Trev!!!!! (Judge) you can put down the bottle and the bi-polar meds!!! you've got mail!!! (or more correctly, FEMALE!!). hi sam! From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Jun 4 03:44:34 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:44:34 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: This discussion list seems to degenerate each weekend - I wonder sometimes what I'm missing - maybe I should join the list from home - then again maybe not - my digibox would probably go into meltdown. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Tom Mahler [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: 04 June 2001 09:41 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? ahem - which Samantha?? Sam **************************************************************************** **** Trev! oh Trev!!!!! (Judge) you can put down the bottle and the bi-polar meds!!! you've got mail!!! (or more correctly, FEMALE!!). hi sam! The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 4 05:00:40 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Tom Mahler) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 03:00:40 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D904AAA77C@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: This discussion list seems to degenerate each weekend - I wonder sometimes what I'm missing - maybe I should join the list from home - then again maybe not - my digibox would probably go into meltdown. Sam you're right,,,,,it's an awful bore... c'ya hon...I sure know who IS NOT a friend... thanks for o. i will NEVER interfere in your affair again. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 4 05:32:01 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 03:32:01 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This discussion list seems to degenerate each weekend - I wonder sometimes what I'm missing - maybe I should join the list from home - then again maybe not - my digibox would probably go into meltdown."" I apologize on behalf of T. Mohler...... he gets "uppity" without thinking...... misunderstanding AND "truth hurts" hands back over face....(I'll peek out later) Mike c From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 4 04:28:35 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 03:28:35 -0500 Subject: ANUBIAN LIGHTS Message-ID: HI EVERYONE, I had a chance to listen to the new AL-NAZ BAR cd this weekend. I think it is really good. I don't see anything wrong with it. It has the same groove as all their other releases. It does have a more latin sound, than the eastern thing they've been doing. I think any of the people that liked the other stuff will still like this. Get it and decide for yourself!!!!!! STEPHE From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Jun 4 05:00:37 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:00:37 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: oh the bright lights..... Watched the video of Love in Space this weekend - didn't even know it existed before then - not bad, not bad at all really. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mike C [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: 04 June 2001 10:32 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? This discussion list seems to degenerate each weekend - I wonder sometimes what I'm missing - maybe I should join the list from home - then again maybe not - my digibox would probably go into meltdown."" I apologize on behalf of T. Mohler...... he gets "uppity" without thinking...... misunderstanding AND "truth hurts" hands back over face....(I'll peek out later) Mike c The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK Mon Jun 4 05:39:26 2001 From: m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK (Merrick Martin French) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:39:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan Message-ID: If some one can get an answer from brian I can probable supply {for free} an older pc with software (MS i'm afraid) and possible a modem for connection. let me know love, light and peace Merrick French From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 4 07:20:49 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 05:20:49 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D904AAA77E@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: " oh the bright lights..... Watched the video of Love in Space this weekend - didn't even know it existed before then - not bad, not bad at all really". Sam.....I gather you own the FREQ recording.????, and this is in reference to Tom's previous fame, prior to being shot (twice now, actually).....rather than Mike Coleman's sunshine intolerance????? the serious part is..:does anyone have any info regarding the supposed recent UK rerelease of this CD.....??? mike From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 4 06:19:41 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:19:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights Naz Bar In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:19:05 +0100 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > All who registered for the Night Of The Hawks DVD will get it on time, and > the good news for you USA people is that you will get an NTSC version from > us so you can actually play the thing. Hah. True Kollectors never play their kollection. FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 4 07:25:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 05:25:57 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: " Sam.....I gather you own the FREQ recording.????, and this is in reference to HYPE spin 'em around... excuse please. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 4 06:35:58 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:35:58 +0100 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: P. Echelon's message of Sun, 3 Jun 2001 05:19:19 -0600 Message-ID: P. Echelon writes: > Dear admirers of Starship HW>>>> > > I just got a phone call from a large collecter of HW in Germany who asked > me to post for any INFO on the US Forces Transcription Service LP, > "Dragonfly", that is a comp of "Jefferson Starship and Hawkwind"..... Eh? Isn't Dragonfly just an ordinary Jefferson Airplane album? FoFP From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Jun 4 06:38:16 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:38:16 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: adjusting Babel Fish - testing, testing.......no - not working!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mike C [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: 04 June 2001 12:26 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? " Sam.....I gather you own the FREQ recording.????, and this is in reference to HYPE spin 'em around... excuse please. The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 4 07:43:02 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 05:43:02 -0600 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: <200106041035.LAA04231@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: "Eh? Isn't Dragonfly just an ordinary Jefferson Airplane album?" seems so Mike.... I somewhow saw that title connected to the "slit" LP dunno.. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 4 06:41:38 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:41:38 +0100 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: Bill & Cynthia's message of Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:33:47 +0800 Message-ID: Bill & Cynthia writes: > Hi Mike > Yes SERIOUSLY.... > I do know that the above mentioned album is a double album. I've had this > album for so long it's starting to fossilize so who to say how readily > available the USAFTS album was when I got "Firefly." > Maybe the Dragonfly release that I have is the Jefferson Starship side of > the HW/JS USAFTS album. It does say on the album that it was released > previously and gives that serial number of the previous release. > Maybe someone on the list can give the serial number of the "real" album and > see if it matches the serial number that IS mentioned on the album. Then I > will know if it's the JS side of the USAFTS album. The US Forces album has 4 tracks from Hall of the Mountain Grill on one side and some tracks from Jefferson Airplane on the other side. I really doubt that it's called "Dragonfly". Odds are that it doesn't have a title. Maybe it's similar to the BBC disks in that they were made for radio broadcast to forces serving overseas and then smashed for copyright reasons or stashed by DJ's with an eye to the future. Is there a Jefferson Airplane list we could post to ask if they know any more than we do? FoFP From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Jun 4 06:40:12 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:40:12 +0100 Subject: Bob Calvert & the Toyota Ad Message-ID: Has anyone here in GB seen the new Toyota Roadster advert with the guy on his knees beating himself with a birch and going on about the Ying of Desire and the Yang of Performance and sounding far too like the Great Captain Lockheed for words - or is it just me?? Sam The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 4 07:52:35 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 05:52:35 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D904AAA781@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: "adjusting Babel Fish - testing, testing.......no - not working!!": it meant: DO YOU OWN HYPE?? ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE TOM MAHLER CHARACTER?? did you make a "funny" on that level???? (if you get the first 2, the third can be deduced by me) mike.... From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Jun 4 07:06:46 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:06:46 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: non, no & no I think - but I'm blonde and therefore allowed occasional thickness!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mike C [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: 04 June 2001 12:53 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? "adjusting Babel Fish - testing, testing.......no - not working!!": it meant: DO YOU OWN HYPE?? ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE TOM MAHLER CHARACTER?? did you make a "funny" on that level???? (if you get the first 2, the third can be deduced by me) mike.... The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Jun 4 07:14:02 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 04:14:02 -0700 Subject: Off Dear Vegetarians Message-ID: You are what you eat, eat well! Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: Riger Mortis Rat To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 4:32 AM Subject: Off Dear Vegetarians First we are going to eat all the vegatables then wait for you all to become too lethatrgic to run away then we will eat you signed The Carnivores From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 4 08:36:06 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (One More!!) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:36:06 -0600 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D904AAA783@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: "non, no & no I think - but I'm blonde and therefore allowed occasional thickness!!" You sure are!!!! and I am not either!!!(not familiar) I only read the back of the LP cover..... I have the book....maybe I should go read it instead of bothering this list??? (in future, after I send items to friends) can I give you updates on my progress privately???? (of the book reading) maybe the knowledge therein will make the music even cooler, for when we hear it??? just realized you are British!!! bye Samantha....!! babel tower (OFF) lol From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Jun 4 08:05:14 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 05:05:14 -0700 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: I'm also an April birthday person, heres a curious piece of trivia that I read in a newspaper about a year ago that I have been unable to confirm nor discredit - In the month of April, more geniuses, crimminals, and lunatics are born than all the other months combined. I've always considered myself a little bit of each and the other Aprilians I know consider themselves pretty much the same thing and a sort of species unique to themselves. I guess it takes one to know one. Gee, it's nice to be special = Enjoy, Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:38 AM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > awwwwwwwwwww > > that'd be really sweet! > > > I say yes! > > (though my birthday isn't until April!!! lol) > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/01/01 10:28am >>> > Has anyone had a birthday recently > > Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best wishes etc > > Mb From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Jun 4 08:17:37 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 05:17:37 -0700 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: Bill, I'm 43 also, as well as an omnivore. I feel younger than my age most of the time - but my android replica is flawed. I know you and Cynthia feel more deprived than us U.S.ers for HW gigs (THEY DO EXIST - FOR I HAVE SEEN THEM!) but it looks like you'll have an opportunity to see them sometime in the fairly near future while I'll most likely go to my grave before I see them back here - now who's most deprived? Enjoy - Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:00 AM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > 13/09/58. 43 this year. > But I feel YOUNG. Feel great! It's because I am an omnivore! I have the BEST > of both worlds. I have colour on my cheeks; spring in my step and an ACHE IN > THE PELVIC REGION. My android replica is playing up again that's no joke cos > you can't do this, can't do that; can't go forward and you can't go > back........ > > But I do wish I was 30 again. > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sweaty Salmon" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:28 PM > Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > Has anyone had a birthday recently > > Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best wishes > etc > > Mb From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 4 08:22:05 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:52:05 +0930 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: That spare a nickel was popular then - If I only had a nickel for every time it was recycled :) >>>>got any booze man?............<<<< Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Samantha Kirwan To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > ahem - which Samantha?? > > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Trev (Judge) [mailto:judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM] > Sent: 01 June 2001 19:58 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > Dear Mike Toddler, > > First, you spread malicious rumours about my age - then you make improper > advances towards my beautiful new blushing bride. > > Yes, Layla and I were married yesterday - and I told her my true age - 28 > > - and if you get any more "upity" ideas - I'm becoming a mormon and I;m > marrying Samantha as well! > > So there > > Young Trev > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. > > ntl Group Limited > From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Mon Jun 4 08:25:26 2001 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:25:26 +0200 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan Message-ID: Well all you guys & girls, Just to informe you Brain Tawn does have a computor and e-mail adress,but doesn't want to be on the list as he has for the moment other priorities.He's a family man and is building a minature tram(not train) landscape(?) for his grandchildren and really into that for the moment. Brain is always interested in info about trams.So if you have anything,send it to him and he'll be the happiesed man in the world. I can understand he put his priorities on something else for the moment as he's already given all of us already so much about Hawkwind.That man is really a gas.I love the guy. greetings filip hawknut ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mich at el B" To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 2:35 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan > I only recently learned of this GREAT and knowledgable man - having limited > ((make that NO))contact with the worlds legions of Hawkfans - untill the > discovery of computers - Internet & BOC/Hawkwind etc. > And I would imagine there is a lot I still do not know. > Anyway - If Brian has no Computer and there was a legitimate way to pool the > dosh together to get the dude one > > Let us know - I'll be in it for sure - Just as soon as the spare cash > becomes available > and after I have posted some fine deserving people there goodies........ > > ** Nearly everything is packed and waiting those little postage stamps to be > licked and stuck > > Peace > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Majka > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 6:07 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan > > > > You know, it's actually been a couple of years since I've heard from Brian > > Tawn. Has anyone corresponded with him lately? Since the advent of the > > internet (and since Brian didn't have a computer the last time I talked to > > him) it seems like, sadly, he is no longer in the fore in terms of Hawk > > news. I hope he's doing well. For at least 15 years he was the #1 source > > for all information concerning Hawkwind and we shouldn't ever forget that. > > I don't even know if he's still producing "Hawkfan"... I remember he > didn't > > send out issues 27 and 28 to overseas fans (that would include me) and I > > forget what his reasoning was, but to this day I regret not getting those > > issues! Maybe he still has some lying around that he can mail out. My > last > > issue was 26. Anyone know anything? Is Hawkfan still being produced? If > > Brian still doesn't have a computer, we should all be good sports and chip > > in and buy him one, in repayment for all he's done for the Hawkwind > > community. > > John Majka > > jmajka2 at home.com > > > > > > What is the current issue of Hawkfan and price? > > > > Dave > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 4 08:35:00 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:05:00 +0930 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? Message-ID: Its more of a wave ~ or a roller coaster ride ~~~~~~ mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Samantha Kirwan To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > This discussion list seems to degenerate each weekend - I wonder sometimes > what I'm missing - maybe I should join the list from home - then again maybe > not - my digibox would probably go into meltdown. > > Sam > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Mahler [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] > Sent: 04 June 2001 09:41 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > > ahem - which Samantha?? > > Sam > **************************************************************************** > **** > Trev! oh Trev!!!!! (Judge) > > you can put down the bottle and the bi-polar meds!!! you've got mail!!! > (or more correctly, FEMALE!!). > > hi sam! > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. > > ntl Group Limited > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 4 08:39:54 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:09:54 +0930 Subject: Off Dear Vegetarians Message-ID: who wrote that |<8 <> 8>| thing about veggies ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Moody To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:44 PM Subject: Re: Off Dear Vegetarians > You are what you eat, eat well! > Steve The Moonman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Riger Mortis Rat > To: > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 4:32 AM > Subject: Off Dear Vegetarians > > > First we are going to eat all the vegatables > then wait for you all to become too lethatrgic to run away > then we will eat you > > signed > The Carnivores From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 4 08:42:12 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:12:12 +0930 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: well if you are into star signs and stuff - and you are an Aprilian Taurean like me then you just know how it feels to be the on top of the world - hey! 8>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Moody To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:35 PM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > I'm also an April birthday person, heres a curious piece of trivia that I > read in a newspaper about a year ago that I have been unable to confirm nor > discredit - In the month of April, more geniuses, crimminals, and lunatics > are born than all the other months combined. I've always considered myself a > little bit of each and the other Aprilians I know consider themselves pretty > much the same thing and a sort of species unique to themselves. I guess it > takes one to know one. Gee, it's nice to be special = Enjoy, Steve The > Moonman > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Layla Thompson > To: > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:38 AM > Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > awwwwwwwwwww > > > > that'd be really sweet! > > > > > > I say yes! > > > > (though my birthday isn't until April!!! lol) > > > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/01/01 10:28am >>> > > Has anyone had a birthday recently > > > > Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > > Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best > wishes etc > > > > Mb > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 4 08:53:25 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:23:25 +0930 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: We need a plan - a plan to take over the worlds banks - the true world power as it stands today - and make Hawkwind the rulers of planet TERRA!!! King Dave Brock & Queen Kris Tait! Barons, (all deserving Hawk members as decreed by our wise and noble King UTOPIA......... ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Moody To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:47 PM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > Bill, > I'm 43 also, as well as an omnivore. I feel younger than my age most of the > time - but my android replica is flawed. I know you and Cynthia feel more > deprived than us U.S.ers for HW gigs (THEY DO EXIST - FOR I HAVE SEEN THEM!) > but it looks like you'll have an opportunity to see them sometime in the > fairly near future while I'll most likely go to my grave before I see them > back here - now who's most deprived? > Enjoy - Steve The Moonman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill & Cynthia > To: > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:00 AM > Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > 13/09/58. 43 this year. > > But I feel YOUNG. Feel great! It's because I am an omnivore! I have the > BEST > > of both worlds. I have colour on my cheeks; spring in my step and an ACHE > IN > > THE PELVIC REGION. My android replica is playing up again that's no joke > cos > > you can't do this, can't do that; can't go forward and you can't go > > back........ > > > > But I do wish I was 30 again. > > > > Bill > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sweaty Salmon" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:28 PM > > Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > > > Has anyone had a birthday recently > > > > Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > > Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best > wishes > > etc > > > > Mb From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Jun 4 09:07:44 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:07:44 -0700 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: Good morning(?!) Michael! Actually I'm an Aries, but in April its all good. Later on this week I'll start on a record to cd tramsfer of Warrior, I've am bombed with job interviews this week but will try to get it at least started and get into the mixing by next week, if you need a copy you are more than welcome to one. I'll let you know when I've finished. The lp I have is the U.S.Atco version, I'd have rather had a U.K. version but I'm used to being stepchild so I will make due. What I miss is my Roadhawks poster - another casualty of my ex - I can't believe that in addition to taking everything else, taking that too and yours trully allowing such an insidious monster to remain at large and unchecked. I must be getting old. Steve The Mooman ----- Original Message ----- From: Mich at el B To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:42 AM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > well if you are into star signs and stuff - and you are an Aprilian Taurean > like me > then you just know how it feels to be the on top of the world - hey! > > 8>) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Moody > To: > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:35 PM > Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > I'm also an April birthday person, heres a curious piece of trivia that I > > read in a newspaper about a year ago that I have been unable to confirm > nor > > discredit - In the month of April, more geniuses, crimminals, and lunatics > > are born than all the other months combined. I've always considered myself > a > > little bit of each and the other Aprilians I know consider themselves > pretty > > much the same thing and a sort of species unique to themselves. I guess it > > takes one to know one. Gee, it's nice to be special = Enjoy, Steve The > > Moonman > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Layla Thompson > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:38 AM > > Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > > > > awwwwwwwwwww > > > > > > that'd be really sweet! > > > > > > > > > I say yes! > > > > > > (though my birthday isn't until April!!! lol) > > > > > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/01/01 10:28am >>> > > > Has anyone had a birthday recently > > > > > > Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > > > Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best > > wishes etc > > > > > > Mb > > From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Jun 4 09:19:56 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:19:56 +0100 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: xlnt - u b Mr Orange, I'm Miss Purple - we need some more colourful people and then someone with a masterplan, I may have a plan B or C but I've yet to think of it. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: 04 June 2001 13:53 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF We need a plan - a plan to take over the worlds banks - the true world power as it stands today - and make Hawkwind the rulers of planet TERRA!!! King Dave Brock & Queen Kris Tait! Barons, (all deserving Hawk members as decreed by our wise and noble King UTOPIA......... ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Moody To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:47 PM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > Bill, > I'm 43 also, as well as an omnivore. I feel younger than my age most of the > time - but my android replica is flawed. I know you and Cynthia feel more > deprived than us U.S.ers for HW gigs (THEY DO EXIST - FOR I HAVE SEEN THEM!) > but it looks like you'll have an opportunity to see them sometime in the > fairly near future while I'll most likely go to my grave before I see them > back here - now who's most deprived? > Enjoy - Steve The Moonman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill & Cynthia > To: > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:00 AM > Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > 13/09/58. 43 this year. > > But I feel YOUNG. Feel great! It's because I am an omnivore! I have the > BEST > > of both worlds. I have colour on my cheeks; spring in my step and an ACHE > IN > > THE PELVIC REGION. My android replica is playing up again that's no joke > cos > > you can't do this, can't do that; can't go forward and you can't go > > back........ > > > > But I do wish I was 30 again. > > > > Bill > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sweaty Salmon" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:28 PM > > Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > > > Has anyone had a birthday recently > > > > Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > > Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best > wishes > > etc > > > > Mb The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jun 4 09:27:48 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:27:48 +0800 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: M. Holmes wrote: > Eh? Isn't Dragonfly just an ordinary Jefferson Airplane album? > > FoFP A Jefferson Starship album strongly featuring Slick/Kanther. It says on the album that it was released previously as BXL1-0717. I thought this album may have been the JS release of the USAFTS with Hawkwind, but obviously (due to the lack of response from the list) it isn't. Ah well, I thought I might have had something there.... Bill (realising he'll never be a Kollector like Mike C.) > From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Mon Jun 4 09:40:43 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:40:43 -0400 Subject: Norwich e1 festival Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:11:36 +0100, Richard Crossley wrote: >Does any one know if HW will be playing at the Norwich e1 festival, Mission >Control mentions it but there is no reference to them on the festival web >site [http://www.festivalsrus.co.uk]. > >Cheers, > >Richard. Last time I looked there was a little reference on the website to the possibility of HW playing. They are playing as far as I know. Perhaps the details just haven't been finalised or the website hasn't been updated. Alastair. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jun 4 09:49:32 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:49:32 +0800 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: Steve M wrote: > Bill, > I'm 43 also, as well as an omnivore. I feel younger than my age most of the > time - but my android replica is flawed. I know you and Cynthia feel more > deprived than us U.S.ers for HW gigs (THEY DO EXIST - FOR I HAVE SEEN THEM!) > but it looks like you'll have an opportunity to see them sometime in the > fairly near future while I'll most likely go to my grave before I see them > back here - now who's most deprived? > Enjoy - Steve The Moonman Hi Steve I hope you don't go to your grave without seeing the Masters of the Universe again. If they do a world tour maybe they'll stop somewhere near you. Here's hoping. I'm sure the Australian shows will be taped. If videoed I'll be the 43 y/o on my knees facing my Mecca :-) Cheers Bill From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Mon Jun 4 09:43:53 2001 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (Tony HydraulicOrganismGeneratedforAccurateRepair,Destruction) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:43:53 -0500 Subject: ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply Message-ID: Arin Komins: >> well, I turn 30 on 3 July. ...although I hope that I have a >> better time than Sam did..... Mich at el B: > Looks like you are going to be the first to get the Birthday Wishes > this year! Oh it pains me to speak of it, but I'll steal the dubious thunder and admit that I'll be 30 on June 29th. -Hogard From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 4 11:08:43 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:38:43 +0930 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: Hi Steve! Yes April is good! I hope you are on top of the world? Sad to hear about the gear you lost - Hope it gets replaced soon one day. When you get the Warrior LP done up I would be very interested in a copy - at least untill the next re-issue, then I'll buy it! I could send you a cdr and postal reimbursment - just let me know when :) I think my wife thinks I take my Hawkwind a little to seriously - CD's - LP's - singles - posters - shirts - {{autographs and books (which my 12 year old helped to arrange for me)}} Overseas concerts 8>) "........wasn't Brixton enough for one lifetime?......" NOPE!!! More..... more!! Yes it is just turned morning here & I realize I must snooze - so take care and lets have a drink at the next HawkFest!! Peace Pipes Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Moody To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > Good morning(?!) Michael! > Actually I'm an Aries, but in April its all good. Later on this week I'll > start on a record to cd tramsfer of Warrior, I've am bombed with job > interviews this week but will try to get it at least started and get into > the mixing by next week, if you need a copy you are more than welcome to > one. I'll let you know when I've finished. The lp I have is the U.S.Atco > version, I'd have rather had a U.K. version but I'm used to being stepchild > so I will make due. What I miss is my Roadhawks poster - another casualty of > my ex - I can't believe that in addition to taking everything else, taking > that too and yours trully allowing such an insidious monster to remain at > large and unchecked. > I must be getting old. Steve The Mooman > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mich at el B > To: > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:42 AM > Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > well if you are into star signs and stuff - and you are an Aprilian > Taurean > > like me > > then you just know how it feels to be the on top of the world - hey! > > > > 8>) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Steve Moody > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:35 PM > > Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > > > > I'm also an April birthday person, heres a curious piece of trivia that > I > > > read in a newspaper about a year ago that I have been unable to confirm > > nor > > > discredit - In the month of April, more geniuses, crimminals, and > lunatics > > > are born than all the other months combined. I've always considered > myself > > a > > > little bit of each and the other Aprilians I know consider themselves > > pretty > > > much the same thing and a sort of species unique to themselves. I guess > it > > > takes one to know one. Gee, it's nice to be special = Enjoy, Steve The > > > Moonman > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Layla Thompson > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:38 AM > > > Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > > > > > > > awwwwwwwwwww > > > > > > > > that'd be really sweet! > > > > > > > > > > > > I say yes! > > > > > > > > (though my birthday isn't until April!!! lol) > > > > > > > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/01/01 10:28am >>> > > > > Has anyone had a birthday recently > > > > > > > > Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > > > > Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best > > > wishes etc > > > > > > > > Mb > > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 4 11:13:02 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:43:02 +0930 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: I like your color!! The color of passion!! However mine would defiantly have to be at least three shades of sapphire blue with white and silver lightning streaks through it and don't forget the Hawk emblem ! Sweaty ----- Original Message ----- From: Samantha Kirwan To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:49 PM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > xlnt - u b Mr Orange, I'm Miss Purple - we need some more colourful people > and then someone with a masterplan, I may have a plan B or C but I've yet to > think of it. > > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: 04 June 2001 13:53 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > We need a plan - > > a plan to take over the worlds banks - the true world power as it stands > today - > > and make Hawkwind the rulers of planet TERRA!!! > > King Dave Brock & Queen Kris Tait! > > Barons, (all deserving Hawk members as decreed by our wise and noble King > > UTOPIA......... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Moody > To: > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:47 PM > Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > Bill, > > I'm 43 also, as well as an omnivore. I feel younger than my age most of > the > > time - but my android replica is flawed. I know you and Cynthia feel more > > deprived than us U.S.ers for HW gigs (THEY DO EXIST - FOR I HAVE SEEN > THEM!) > > but it looks like you'll have an opportunity to see them sometime in the > > fairly near future while I'll most likely go to my grave before I see them > > back here - now who's most deprived? > > Enjoy - Steve The Moonman > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill & Cynthia > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:00 AM > > Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > > > > 13/09/58. 43 this year. > > > But I feel YOUNG. Feel great! It's because I am an omnivore! I have the > > BEST > > > of both worlds. I have colour on my cheeks; spring in my step and an > ACHE > > IN > > > THE PELVIC REGION. My android replica is playing up again that's no joke > > cos > > > you can't do this, can't do that; can't go forward and you can't go > > > back........ > > > > > > But I do wish I was 30 again. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sweaty Salmon" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:28 PM > > > Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > > > > > > Has anyone had a birthday recently > > > > > > Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > > > Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best > > wishes > > > etc > > > > > > Mb > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. > > ntl Group Limited > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 4 11:14:42 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:44:42 +0930 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: I'll be right next to 'im 8>) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:19 PM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > Steve M wrote: > > Bill, > > I'm 43 also, as well as an omnivore. I feel younger than my age most of > the > > time - but my android replica is flawed. I know you and Cynthia feel more > > deprived than us U.S.ers for HW gigs (THEY DO EXIST - FOR I HAVE SEEN > THEM!) > > but it looks like you'll have an opportunity to see them sometime in the > > fairly near future while I'll most likely go to my grave before I see them > > back here - now who's most deprived? > > Enjoy - Steve The Moonman > > Hi Steve > > I hope you don't go to your grave without seeing the Masters of the Universe > again. If they do a world tour maybe they'll stop somewhere near you. Here's > hoping. > I'm sure the Australian shows will be taped. If videoed I'll be the 43 y/o > on my knees facing my Mecca :-) > > Cheers > Bill > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 4 11:20:34 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:50:34 +0930 Subject: ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply Message-ID: Ohhhh - its all uphill from there!! Trust me! - Ive been a member of the thirty something club going on three years now - Rock n roll Saw Hawkwind live at 32 opened my recording studio @ 30 Officially created Alien Dream @ 32 Recorded 3 original other cd's at 30 - 33 etc etc all sorts of good things happening Thirties rocks! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony HydraulicOrganismGeneratedforAccurateRepair,Destruction To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:13 PM Subject: Re: ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply > Arin Komins: > > >> well, I turn 30 on 3 July. ...although I hope that I have a > >> better time than Sam did..... > > Mich at el B: > > > Looks like you are going to be the first to get the Birthday Wishes > > this year! > > Oh it pains me to speak of it, but I'll steal the dubious > thunder and admit that I'll be 30 on June 29th. > > -Hogard From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 4 11:20:01 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:20:01 -0500 Subject: ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply Message-ID: Once you hit 35 age doesn't matter anymore. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:21 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply Ohhhh - its all uphill from there!! Trust me! - Ive been a member of the thirty something club going on three years now - Rock n roll Saw Hawkwind live at 32 opened my recording studio @ 30 Officially created Alien Dream @ 32 Recorded 3 original other cd's at 30 - 33 etc etc all sorts of good things happening Thirties rocks! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony HydraulicOrganismGeneratedforAccurateRepair,Destruction To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:13 PM Subject: Re: ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply > Arin Komins: > > >> well, I turn 30 on 3 July. ...although I hope that I have a > >> better time than Sam did..... > > Mich at el B: > > > Looks like you are going to be the first to get the Birthday Wishes > > this year! > > Oh it pains me to speak of it, but I'll steal the dubious > thunder and admit that I'll be 30 on June 29th. > > -Hogard From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 4 12:37:55 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:37:55 -0600 Subject: ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A060@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: Once you hit 35 age doesn't matter anymore. STEPHE so agreed.....I hope what they say about "life beginning at 40" is true for me..... but mainly....this thread is cracking me up......... except now it lost it's OFF..... m c From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 4 11:40:45 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:40:45 -0500 Subject: ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply Message-ID: I hope thats true too. That must be when you start forgetting things. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: mike c [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:38 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply Once you hit 35 age doesn't matter anymore. STEPHE so agreed.....I hope what they say about "life beginning at 40" is true for me..... but mainly....this thread is cracking me up......... except now it lost it's OFF..... m c From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 4 11:55:37 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:25:37 +0930 Subject: ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply Message-ID: Yeah - so it has - I can certainly see that :) ahem ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:07 AM Subject: Re: ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply > Once you hit 35 age doesn't matter anymore. STEPHE > > so agreed.....I hope what they say about "life beginning at 40" is true for > me..... > > but mainly....this thread is cracking me up......... > > except now it lost it's OFF..... > > m c From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 4 11:45:34 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:45:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me Layla. xx >>> dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK 06/03/01 10:24pm >>> Is this gig still going to happen? Will there be a Scottish gig? I intend to go to the Newcastle gig - anyone else? Dave From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 4 12:27:31 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:27:31 -0400 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: and me!!! (Will I need a passport going north of the Thames?) From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Mon Jun 4 12:55:32 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:55:32 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A03F@hermes.marketday. com> Message-ID: I've eaten... But I decided that censoring myself was the only decent thing to do at this point.... ChrisW NP: YSDT from SR(Rm) At 13:33 01/06/01, you wrote: >I can eat veggies ok, but tofu tastes awful. STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Colin Allen [mailto:colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK] >Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 7:33 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Off:Re: spare a nickel? > > >On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:20:58 +0100, M Holmes wrote: > > >Colin Allen writes: > > > >> Ah! But we veggies are rumoured to have our own forms of revenge! > > > >I *knew* there must be some explanation for the existence of tofu. > > > >FoFP > > >Nothing wrong with tofu; I use it in place of putty for my windows! "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Mon Jun 4 10:53:06 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:53:06 +0100 Subject: HW: off topic In-Reply-To: <018601c0e956$28582b20$261cbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: I got (both) of mine, thanks... And now that Helen's gone home, I'll be able to listen to them properly *G* Chris("Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me...) Ace prezzies : Cope Julian's "The Modern Antiquarian" & Miles' "The Complete Live At The Plugged Nickel 1965" At 23:15 30/05/01, you wrote: >To one and all - >is there someone on this list waiting for me at CD Services to mail to them >a copy of the new Magma 3CD box set - it's just that we have it back now and >one spare that we can't think who on earth it was for!!! >If so, just mail me at: >agcdser at aol.com >Thanks alot, >Andy G (CDS) "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Mon Jun 4 12:49:47 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:49:47 +0100 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF In-Reply-To: <008801c0ea9a$e0f83540$88a13bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: At 14:00 01/06/01, Bill wrote: >13/09/58. 43 this year. >But I feel YOUNG. Feel great! It's because I am an omnivore! I have the BEST >of both worlds. I have colour on my cheeks; spring in my step and an ACHE IN >THE PELVIC REGION. My android replica is playing up again that's no joke cos >you can't do this, can't do that; can't go forward and you can't go >back........ > >But I do wish I was 30 again. I don't, 'coz then I'd have to relive 10 years of the marriage from hell, and I'd have to g through being 37 all over again... ChrisW NP: MotU (SR Rm - 2nd version) "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Mon Jun 4 12:57:36 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:57:36 +0100 Subject: Off:Re: spare a nickel? In-Reply-To: <002001c0eadb$3eee0ea0$63a4a918@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: Me too (except for the teeth - and they're fighting a losing battle with black coffee, black tea & tobacco!) ChrisW At 21:41 01/06/01, you wrote: >From: "Kevin Perry" > > > Not tragic...it'd just be nice to have a conversation about HW with someone > > who hasn't got a beard :-) > > What's wrong with a beard? That's the only place on my head where >hair will grow....well not counting nose, ears, and teeth :) > >Jerry > >ObLP: Captain Lockheed & The Starfighters UAG 29507 "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Mon Jun 4 13:06:08 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:06:08 +0100 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF In-Reply-To: <004201c0eb21$74cb42e0$b6cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: No, me pleeeeeease....45 today ChrisW At 06:03 02/06/01, you wrote: >Looks like you are going to be the first to get the Birthday Wishes this >year! > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Arin Komins >To: >Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 2:08 AM >Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Sweaty Salmon wrote: > > > > :Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > : > > :Has anyone had a birthday recently > > : > > :Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > > :Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best >wishes etc > > > > well, I turn 30 on 3 July. ...although I hope that I have a better time > > than Sam did..... > > > > Arin > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > Web Systems Administrator > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 4 15:01:30 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 20:01:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: Har, Har Yes, if you wish to enter the European part of the UK (the North and Scotland) - ooh, topical Dave -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 04 June 2001 17:27 Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig >and me!!! (Will I need a passport going north of the Thames?) > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jun 4 15:07:46 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:07:46 -0400 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:41:38 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >The US Forces album has 4 tracks from Hall of the Mountain Grill on one >side and some tracks from Jefferson Airplane on the other side. Jefferson Starship, actually. >I really doubt that it's called "Dragonfly". Odds are that it doesn't >have a title. Yes. Exactly. Mr. Holmes is 100% correct here. The LP has one side of Hawkwind tracks, all previously released on 'Hall of the Mountain Grill', and the other side is Jefferson Starship tracks, all previously released on their debut[*] album, which is indeed called 'Dragonfly'. 'Dragonfly' is NOT the title of the US Forces album, but rather the Jefferson Starship album from which their tracks on said US Forces album are taken. It would be just as misleading to refer to the US Forces album as 'Hall of the Mountain Grill'. There are no "unreleased" or "rare" tracks on the album by either band; being a hardkore kollektor (i.e. Mike & Mike) is the ONLY reason to own the album. Got it? >Is there a Jefferson Airplane list we could post to ask if they know any >more than we do? That might be a good way to find someone who actually owns the album. -Doug (Airplane = good ; Starship = sucks) jasret at mindspring.com [*] unless you count 'Blows Against the Empire', which is credited to "Jefferson Starship", but is really a Paul Kantner solo album with extensive Grace Slick participation and guest appearences by other Airplane members and various San Francisco luminaries (Garcia, Crosby, etc.); none of the later members of Jefferson Starship appear on the album. Unlike the "real" Jefferson Starship albums, this one doesn't suck. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jun 4 15:10:06 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:10:06 -0400 Subject: HW: RoadHawks, Book, Opal Butterfly Message-ID: On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:42:00 +0100, Steve Litchfield wrote: >More updates to the Opal Butterfly page online too, including the >revelation that Lemmy didn't play on Groupie Girl or Gigging Song, neither >did he appear in the movie! All true. So is he on ANY Opal Butterfly records? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jun 4 15:15:26 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:15:26 -0000 Subject: GOODBYE FRIENDS Message-ID: I JUDGE, LOVER OF LIFE AND TRUTH FAREWELL OH GENTLE HOBBITS WHO SLEEP AND HAVE TWO BREAKFASTS. THE CYCLE WILL COME ROUND. IT IS THE LAW. YOU BURY YOUR LOVING HEADS INSIDE BUT MAYA IS AND OF MAYA YOU ARE. NOW OUR THIRD GENERATION RISE. WE WHO'S WOMEN AND CHILDREN SUFFERED THE TRUNCHEONS OF THE ORCS AND THE BURNING OF OUR HEARTHS AND SUCCOUR. WE WHO STAND IN WILDERNESS WHEN OUR FINGERS CAN TOUCH GOLD. WE OF THE EARTH MOTHER WHO FACE THE SUN WITH EYES WIDE OPEN. LOOK TO LIFE AND NOT TO LISTS FOR LISTS DO NOT EXIST IN HERE AND NOW. ONLY HURT AND LOVE MAKES CHANGE AND NOW I MUST GO FOR I MUST AND ONLY LOVE IS GOOD FAREWELL JUDGE TREV _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 4 16:41:08 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Stinkbomb) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:41:08 -0600 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: <200106041907.PAA14634@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Doug P.: Yes. Exactly. Mr. Holmes is 100% correct here. The LP has one side of Hawkwind tracks, all previously released on 'Hall of the Mountain Grill', and the other side is Jefferson Starship tracks, all previously released on their debut[*] album, which is indeed called 'Dragonfly'. 'Dragonfly' is NOT the title of the US Forces album, but rather the Jefferson Starship album from which their tracks on said US Forces album are taken. It would be just as misleading to refer to the US Forces album as 'Hall of the Mountain Grill'. There are no "unreleased" or "rare" tracks on the album by either band; being a hardkore kollektor (i.e. Mike & Mike) is the ONLY reason to own the album. Got it? But Doug....he credited Airplane......what percentage of correct is he EXACTLY???? (I lost that capability) and I agree about your Airplane/Starship O-Meter........hahahahaha have you seen that VH1 special where Grace is drunk off her toosh, and bitching at the German audience .....in a HORRID singing voice (hair on end).... The label for the above LP is listed as AFRTS 1974...if that is really the label or not, can't say, but that's how Tawn lists it.... I also, seem to remember John Zsigray said it had a "rudimentary" cover, from having talked to an owner at SD 99........ **snip** From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Jun 4 16:11:05 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:11:05 -0400 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye In-Reply-To: <000201c0ecf1$b2cfa500$49a308d4@d8o7x0> Message-ID: At 14:25 6.4.01 +0200, you wrote: >Well all you guys & girls, > >Just to informe you Brain Tawn does have a computor and e-mail adress,but >doesn't want to be on the list as he has for the moment other >priorities. He is much better off for not being on this list as of late. And congratulations to Judge Trev for coming to his senses. to sadly paraphrase Springsteen: over 50 emails and there's nothing on. Jason From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jun 4 16:20:16 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:20:16 +0100 Subject: ANUBIAN LIGHTS Message-ID: HALLELUJAH - A fan!!!!! OK - I admit it's not as bad as I said - it's worse (just kidding). Anyway, just goes to show that people's tastes are a wonderful and varied thing. I have to say I still don't like it much at all. While I'm at it, we've had a Magma back cat delivery so if you want several live and studio renditions of 'Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh' spread across five or six CD's, then we're yer man. I LOVE Magma - hadn't you guessed!!. Next subject (shut yer ears Dave): guess what I can announce? I got the call today to say that on Sunday 21st October in London there will be 'Greasy Truckers Festival 2001' (no word of a lie) featuring The Deviants and ex-Pink Fairies; (and I quote) 'members of the Hawkestra'; Inner City Unit; and Man. Tickets will be on sale in two to three weeks. More news to follow soon, no doubt. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lindas" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:28 AM Subject: ANUBIAN LIGHTS > HI EVERYONE, I had a chance to listen to the new AL-NAZ BAR cd this weekend. > I think it is really good. I don't see anything wrong with it. It has the > same groove as all their other releases. It does have a more latin sound, > than the eastern thing they've been doing. I think any of the people that > liked the other stuff will still like this. Get it and decide for > yourself!!!!!! STEPHE From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Jun 4 16:40:03 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:40:03 -0700 Subject: ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply Message-ID: Remember all you 30+ gentleman, you never really lose your hair - it simply migrates to your back. Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:37 AM Subject: Re: ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply > Once you hit 35 age doesn't matter anymore. STEPHE > > so agreed.....I hope what they say about "life beginning at 40" is true for > me..... > > but mainly....this thread is cracking me up......... > > except now it lost it's OFF..... > > m c From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Jun 4 16:45:47 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:45:47 EDT Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010604161105.00699a08@acmenet.net> Message-ID: On 4 Jun 2001, at 16:11, Jason Scruton wrote: > He is much better off for not being on this list as of late. > And congratulations to Judge Trev for coming to his senses. > Well, I suspect that the tenor of this list should improve a bit tomorrow... theo From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 4 17:57:59 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:57:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye Message-ID: Hurrah, sense at last - there's been too much pish and not enough Hawkwind on the list recently. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Ted Jackson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 04 June 2001 21:46 Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye On 4 Jun 2001, at 16:11, Jason Scruton wrote: > He is much better off for not being on this list as of late. > And congratulations to Judge Trev for coming to his senses. > Well, I suspect that the tenor of this list should improve a bit tomorrow... theo From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 4 18:13:15 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:13:15 +0100 Subject: Greasy Truckers 2001 Message-ID: I take it Dave Brock is not involved in this. Is this another Nik-wind aka Pinkwind or "we're all pissed off that we're not in Hawkwind"-wind? Although I'd be interested to see this lot in action - going to the gig would have the feel of going to see a covers band . No Dave Brock - no Hawkwind: end of story. I'd like to see Nik put out a solo LP, or band LP, that didn't consist primarily of Hawkwind covers. Apart from ICU(even Passout had renditions of Brainstorm and MotU) I don't think he's done this since the excellent Xitintoday. In saying that I'd like to see some output from Hawkwind, soon. Maybe the bold Captain Black can catalyse that. Dave -----Original Message----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 04 June 2001 20:59 Subject: Re: ANUBIAN LIGHTS >>Next subject (shut yer ears Dave): guess what I can announce? >I got the call today to say that on Sunday 21st October in London there will >be 'Greasy Truckers Festival 2001' (no word of a lie) featuring The Deviants >and ex-Pink Fairies; (and I quote) 'members of the Hawkestra'; Inner City >Unit; and Man. Tickets will be on sale in two to three weeks. >More news to follow soon, no doubt. >Andy Garibaldi From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 4 18:34:31 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Coleman) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:34:31 -0600 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye In-Reply-To: <3B1BBB38.17354.20B1D35@localhost> Message-ID: Theo: "Well, I suspect that the tenor of this list should improve a bit" tomorrow.." dear Bocl "Maturity" and "Master" Pearson.... I sincerely do, Once again, apologize for my part in submitting too many e-mails to this list..... I must consolidate//// especially you Doug....I'm sorry for degrading your list a bit..... I spoke with Judge Trev today...... he's just going to rock out...it's time......I don't think he is as full of hate where the list is concerned, but I don't know......what I *DO* know, is that he has not pulled the plug on the Yahoo Hawkwind list that Bob Lennon has...... he's basically cracking down to work...... I will "knock 'em down"..(the email quantity) I really will... peace! (Mike Coleman) oh and Samanfa= Layla Samantha= Samantha..... PS--I really *DO* sleep m From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Jun 4 17:38:21 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:38:21 EDT Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4 Jun 2001, at 16:34, Coleman wrote: > Theo: > > "Well, I suspect that the tenor of this list should improve a bit" > tomorrow.." > > > dear Bocl "Maturity" and "Master" Pearson.... > I sincerely do, Once again, apologize for my part in submitting too > many e-mails to this list..... I must consolidate//// > Who the hell you callin' 'mature,' buddy? Why don't you just say something bad about my mother? I was merely thinking that perhaps, seeing as how BOC release a new disc tomorrow... theo From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Mon Jun 4 17:57:12 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:57:12 -0500 Subject: Greasy Truckers 2001 Message-ID: Well he wrote or co-wrote a lot of what he plays. If he's going to play live, he's gonna do his hits so to speak. When Nik came through the US with Helios Creed on guitar it was the best versions I've ever seen of the space ritual songs, and I certainly didn't think of him as just a cover band. Arguably the biggest and best space anthems HW ever did had Nik involved. I'm quite thankful to have Nik around performing, I think he's played four times the number of gigs HW has in the US since 95. And when I go to one I want to hear the HW hits. But I'll listen to whatever he does. I would like to see him write new material as well though, I think it would be good stuff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "david hall" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Greasy Truckers 2001 > I take it Dave Brock is not involved in this. Is this another Nik-wind aka > Pinkwind or "we're all pissed off that we're not in Hawkwind"-wind? Although > I'd be interested to see this lot in action - going to the gig would have > the feel of going to see a covers band . No Dave Brock - no Hawkwind: end of > story. I'd like to see Nik put out a solo LP, or band LP, that didn't > consist primarily of Hawkwind covers. Apart from ICU(even Passout had > renditions of Brainstorm and MotU) I don't think he's done this since the > excellent Xitintoday. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 4 18:51:20 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Coleman) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:51:20 -0600 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye In-Reply-To: <3B1BC78A.13667.23B4052@localhost> Message-ID: "Who the hell you callin' 'mature,' buddy? Why don't you just say something bad about my mother? I was merely thinking that perhaps, seeing as how BOC release a new disc tomorrow..." uh oh... I meant I am "Immature"...I SWEAR TO GOD!!!!!! it was a snotty way to present it, but it WAS an attack on ME....Please do realize they are not ALL my fault.....but I did cram the server.... I wouldn't dare talk about someone's mom. Here in Dallas you can easily take a bullet for such a thing, and I apply that notion everywhere. It was a SERIOUS apology, although please don't take me out all alone....misery loves SOME company!!!!! woops woops ooops gimme three steps...1.........2........... mc From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Jun 4 17:53:47 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:53:47 EDT Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4 Jun 2001, at 16:51, Coleman wrote: > "Who the hell you callin' 'mature,' buddy? Why don't you just say > something bad about my mother? I was merely thinking that perhaps, > seeing as how BOC release a new disc tomorrow..." > > uh oh... > > I meant I am "Immature"...I SWEAR TO GOD!!!!!! > > it was a snotty way to present it, but it WAS an attack on > ME....Please do realize they are not ALL my fault.....but I did cram > the server.... > Hey dude, I was just ball-breaking. I like your posts... tj From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jun 4 17:54:24 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:54:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:11:05 -0400, Jason Scruton wrote: >And congratulations to Judge Trev for coming to his senses. > >to sadly paraphrase Springsteen: >over 50 emails and there's nothing on. Uh ... I counted only 6 messages from Trev in the first week of June, 2001. And some of them were even on-topic (hey, he IS playing at a Hawkwind fan fest in a couple weeks ... I'll certainly cut someone slack for THAT! ... especially since it lets me keep THIS message vaguely on- topic). Perhaps you're thinking of someone else who might have posted over 40 (but not over 50 ... YET) messages during the same time span? (No, not you, mr. C! You haven't even hit 30!) -Doug (who IS looking forward to reading some BOC reviews tomorrow!) jasret at mindspring.com P.S. handy reference here: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind0106a&L=boc-l&F=&S=&O=A&H=0&D=0&T=1 From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jun 4 18:35:28 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:35:28 +0100 Subject: Greasy Truckers 2001 Message-ID: .Yes - not a Brock job As to who the cryptic 'members of Hawkestra' refers, we do not have that info at present. Re-Turner output - everything on its merits - despite the quality, the 'Deeply Vale' CD is, in my opinion, really great, although it has to be said, primarily for the guitar playing!!! Don't mind if he does do Hawk stuff as long as it is done well - and that is arguable on some of his output of past years, but still, at least he's there - just a shame he's on the wrong side of the fence. Wouldn't we all like to see more Hawk output! Still, that's musicians for you (just kidding, Dave) Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "david hall" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:13 PM Subject: Re: Greasy Truckers 2001 > I take it Dave Brock is not involved in this. Is this another Nik-wind aka > Pinkwind or "we're all pissed off that we're not in Hawkwind"-wind? Although > I'd be interested to see this lot in action - going to the gig would have > the feel of going to see a covers band . No Dave Brock - no Hawkwind: end of > story. I'd like to see Nik put out a solo LP, or band LP, that didn't > consist primarily of Hawkwind covers. Apart from ICU(even Passout had > renditions of Brainstorm and MotU) I don't think he's done this since the > excellent Xitintoday. > > In saying that I'd like to see some output from Hawkwind, soon. Maybe the > bold Captain Black can catalyse that. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 04 June 2001 20:59 > Subject: Re: ANUBIAN LIGHTS > > > >>Next subject (shut yer ears Dave): guess what I can announce? > >I got the call today to say that on Sunday 21st October in London there > will > >be 'Greasy Truckers Festival 2001' (no word of a lie) featuring The > Deviants > >and ex-Pink Fairies; (and I quote) 'members of the Hawkestra'; Inner City > >Unit; and Man. Tickets will be on sale in two to three weeks. > >More news to follow soon, no doubt. > >Andy Garibaldi From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jun 4 18:37:07 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:37:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye Message-ID: Does anyone out there, apart from me, actually own something that Coleman hasn;t got? Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:54 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:11:05 -0400, Jason Scruton wrote: > >And congratulations to Judge Trev for coming to his senses. > > > >to sadly paraphrase Springsteen: > >over 50 emails and there's nothing on. > > Uh ... I counted only 6 messages from Trev in the first week of June, > 2001. And some of them were even on-topic (hey, he IS playing at a > Hawkwind fan fest in a couple weeks ... I'll certainly cut someone slack > for THAT! ... especially since it lets me keep THIS message vaguely on- > topic). > > Perhaps you're thinking of someone else who might have posted over 40 (but > not over 50 ... YET) messages during the same time span? (No, not you, mr. > C! You haven't even hit 30!) > > -Doug (who IS looking forward to reading some BOC reviews tomorrow!) > jasret at mindspring.com > > P.S. handy reference here: > http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind0106a&L=boc-l&F=&S=&O=A&H=0&D=0&T=1 From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jun 4 18:47:38 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:47:38 +0100 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: now if it was Airplane stuff, then it might be worth having, if only to hear Kaukonen's guitar work - man, that guy can play. But we've been here before I think..... Hey, that's it - get Hawkwind to do a JA cover - ah, but which one? Andy Garibaldi (still coming down from hearing this incredible album today, the title of which and artist completely escapes me - next time!!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stinkbomb" To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: Re: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" > Doug P.: > > Yes. Exactly. Mr. Holmes is 100% correct here. The LP has one side of > Hawkwind tracks, all previously released on 'Hall of the Mountain Grill', > and the other side is Jefferson Starship tracks, all previously released on > their debut[*] album, which is indeed called 'Dragonfly'. 'Dragonfly' is > NOT the title of the US Forces album, but rather the Jefferson Starship > album from which their tracks on said US Forces album are taken. It would > be just as misleading to refer to the US Forces album as 'Hall of the > Mountain Grill'. There are no "unreleased" or "rare" tracks on the album > by either band; being a hardkore kollektor (i.e. Mike & Mike) is the ONLY > reason to own the album. Got it? > > > But Doug....he credited Airplane......what percentage of correct is he > EXACTLY???? (I lost that capability) > > and I agree about your Airplane/Starship O-Meter........hahahahaha > > have you seen that VH1 special where Grace is drunk off her toosh, and > bitching at the German audience .....in a HORRID singing voice (hair on > end).... > > The label for the above LP is listed as AFRTS 1974...if that is really the > label or not, can't say, but that's how Tawn lists it.... > > I also, seem to remember John Zsigray said it had a "rudimentary" cover, > from having talked to an owner at SD 99........ > > **snip** From nick at NETPHD.NET Mon Jun 4 18:47:40 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:47:40 -0400 Subject: BOC: Here it comes Message-ID: I haven't gotten to the point of ticking off the minutes yet, but I'm roughly 17 hours away from popping "Curse of the Hidden Mirror" into my CD player. Technically I could go to one of the local music stores that opens for a couple hours at midnight every Monday, but I think I can wait. --Nick From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jun 4 19:18:42 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:18:42 +0800 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: Happy Birthday Chris. Have a good one.... Bill PS Can you re send your ICQ number to me. I got hit by a virus a couple of months ago and wiped the hard drive. My ICQ# is 74775809 - hawkwindfish, thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Warburton" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:06 AM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > No, me pleeeeeease....45 today > > ChrisW > > At 06:03 02/06/01, you wrote: > >Looks like you are going to be the first to get the Birthday Wishes this > >year! > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Arin Komins > >To: > >Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 2:08 AM > >Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Sweaty Salmon wrote: > > > > > > :Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > : > > > :Has anyone had a birthday recently > > > : > > > :Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > > > :Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best > >wishes etc > > > > > > well, I turn 30 on 3 July. ...although I hope that I have a better time > > > than Sam did..... > > > > > > Arin > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > > Web Systems Administrator > > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - > Bierce > > So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jun 4 19:27:51 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:27:51 +0800 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: Doug said: > -Doug (Airplane = good ; Starship = sucks) LOL My meter goes JA - good; JS - fair; (they have some good albums) Starship - the pits Bill From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jun 4 19:33:11 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:33:11 -0400 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: <039301c0ec2e$c7866ba0$88a13bcb@freeaqua>; from freeaqua@IINET.NET.AU on Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:12:01PM +0800 Message-ID: On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:12:01PM +0800, Bill & Cynthia wrote: > The closest it gets to a Hawkwind number is a song called "Hyperdrive" which > goes for a length of 7:39....written by Grace Slick and Pete Sears. Any good? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jun 4 19:58:34 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:58:34 -0400 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:47:38 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >Hey, that's it - get Hawkwind to do a JA cover - ah, but which one? "Have You Seen The Saucers?", of course! >Andy Garibaldi (still coming down from hearing this incredible album today, >the title of which and artist completely escapes me - next time!!!) do tell ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jun 4 20:14:27 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:14:27 +0800 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye/Bill's sad story Message-ID: Mike C. wrote: > It was a SERIOUS apology, although please don't take me out all > alone....misery loves SOME company!!!!! > That it does. I stand beside you with guilt. Even tho you're not replying to my posts..... But I wish for more Hawkwind content too. Although I have been a fan for over 26 years I know very little compared with some on the list. I grew up in a coastal country town 600 miles from Perth and the only way I heard of new Hawkwind albums was reading the Independent Charts in 18 month old New Musical Express and Melody Maker magazines. Then the LPs had to be ordered in and that took weeks. This by a chemist store who was also a gift shop and record shop. By people who would say, " Led Zeppelin - yes, he's good isn't he." I knew nothing of bootlegs, taped live shows, rare records or collectables - but I do own every "officially sanctioned" album they have put out except Spacebrock and Family Tree. Bill From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jun 4 20:40:52 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:40:52 +0800 Subject: OFF. Jefferson Starship - Dragonfly Message-ID: > On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:12:01PM +0800, Bill & Cynthia wrote: > > The closest it gets to a Hawkwind number is a song called "Hyperdrive" which > > goes for a length of 7:39....written by Grace Slick and Pete Sears. > > Any good? Had to play it to boost the old memory. I haven't played any JS since they changed their name to "Starship" and released that atrocity called "Knee Deep in the Hoopla." If you like Grace Slick's voice you'll like this. I'm also of the opinion that any album Paul Kanther is on is a good album. Slick did a few solo albums of which IMO "Dreams" is the best. Bill > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > necessarily a good idea. > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) > From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Jun 4 22:24:10 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:24:10 -0700 Subject: OFF. Jefferson Starship - Dragonfly Message-ID: Bill & Cynthia, Would you believe that J.S. bassist Brett Bloomfield graduated with me in 1976 from Antioch High (CA)? One of the nicest guys you could ever hope to meet and he was also Val Victorian! Who said rockers have the I.Q's of oranges. I just was notified of our 25th class reunion - our 15th was so screwed up (no others before it) it was held our 16th year - found out that we had a class mortality rate of about 20 percent(out of a graduating class of 500+!) decided we better have one our 20th year in case there were no others left for the 25th (yes, there were more decreases, but not too bad!) lets see whats left on the shelf this year. I'll let you all know - Steve The Moonman - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:40 PM Subject: Re: OFF. Jefferson Starship - Dragonfly > > On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:12:01PM +0800, Bill & Cynthia wrote: > > > The closest it gets to a Hawkwind number is a song called "Hyperdrive" > which > > > goes for a length of 7:39....written by Grace Slick and Pete Sears. > > > > Any good? > > Had to play it to boost the old memory. I haven't played any JS since they > changed their name to "Starship" and released that atrocity called "Knee > Deep in the Hoopla." > > If you like Grace Slick's voice you'll like this. I'm also of the opinion > that any album Paul Kanther is on is a good album. Slick did a few solo > albums of which IMO "Dreams" is the best. > > Bill > > > > -- > > > > | | /\ > > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > > | | / > > With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > > necessarily a good idea. > > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) > > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Jun 4 23:05:05 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:05:05 EDT Subject: NIK (and Farflung) Message-ID: I'm quite thankful to have Nik around performing, I think he's played four > times the number of gigs HW has in the US since 95. And when I go to one I > want to hear the HW hits. But I'll listen to whatever he does. > > I would like to see him write new material as well though, I think it would > be good stuff. > Apparently the new Nik Turner double-CD was just "released" today on Transparency Records , on which there's supposed to be some "new" stuff. Hope so. As much as I love Nik's HW revivals, there are now enough versions of those tunes on record. Also heard some of the forthcoming Farflung (sorry I forgot the title AGAIN!) out on Falcata-Galia/Transparency in "about a month": Expect something much different--you can no longer rely on FF for pure ball-squashing spacerock...much more mellow...still it sounded good...though i miss Tommy's old singing style...oh well... Chuck PS: I like the new Anubian Lights! From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Mon Jun 4 23:41:14 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:41:14 -0500 Subject: NIK: new album Message-ID: Is anyone here carrying the new album? From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jun 4 23:46:30 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:46:30 +0800 Subject: OFF. Jefferson Starship - Dragonfly Message-ID: Steve Wrote: > Bill & Cynthia, > Would you believe that J.S. bassist Brett Bloomfield graduated with me in > 1976 from Antioch High (CA)? One of the nicest guys you could ever hope to > meet and he was also Val Victorian! Who said rockers have the I.Q's of > oranges. \ Wow. You rub shoulders with the greats.... Brett Bloomfield was officially Starship's bassist between 1988 - 1990, then in 1991 - 1992 backed up Ian Gillan of Deep Purple fame. Bill From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Tue Jun 5 03:00:58 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 03:00:58 -0400 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye/Bill's sad story Message-ID: Bill, The Family Tree album is well worth it; get it if you can. Spacebrock - can't comment yet as I'm waiting for my copy to arrive. Mark From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jun 5 03:48:57 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:48:57 +0800 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye/Bill's sad story Message-ID: Mark Von Bargen wrote: > Bill, > > The Family Tree album is well worth it; get it if you can. > Spacebrock - can't comment yet as I'm waiting for my copy to arrive. > > Mark I read Andy G's review of Family Tree and I am certainly excited about it. I'm still waiting for Spacebrock. Have been for a while. Can't get Family Tree until work picks up. Sitting at home twiddling my thumbs due to our glorious government wisdom in setting up a GST. The collapse of a major insurer hasn't helped the building trade either. Ah well, got me (my) music. Bill NP - Omega - Time Robber From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 5 04:22:22 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:52:22 +0930 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: HaPPy BirthDAY to YOU! HaPPy BirthDAY to YOU! HaPPy BirthDAYYYYYYYYYyyyyyyyYYYYYYYyyyyy ChriS HaPPy BirthDAY ay AY hip hip hiroooo Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Warburton To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:36 AM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > No, me pleeeeeease....45 today > > ChrisW > > At 06:03 02/06/01, you wrote: > >Looks like you are going to be the first to get the Birthday Wishes this > >year! > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Arin Komins > >To: > >Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 2:08 AM > >Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Sweaty Salmon wrote: > > > > > > :Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > > > : > > > :Has anyone had a birthday recently > > > : > > > :Anyone wanna start a Birthday thing - whereby everyone submits there > > > :Birthday - year not necessary and on the special day we all send best > >wishes etc > > > > > > well, I turn 30 on 3 July. ...although I hope that I have a better time > > > than Sam did..... > > > > > > Arin > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > > Web Systems Administrator > > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - > Bierce > > So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jun 5 05:21:58 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Coleman) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 03:21:58 -0600 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye/Bill's sad story In-Reply-To: <019f01c0ed54$7cc38cc0$c2c53bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: Bill and Cynthia: "That it does. I stand beside you with guilt. Even tho you're not replying to my posts....." Bill if I didn't, I would like to have, but I was so "busy". Look my friend, your knowledge is great, I mean, what kind of fool am I not to know the Dragonfly LP, I mean, after all, they were a good bunch of freaks from my own country, even if they were all too fixed on Grace to get a good LP out......*I agree too with your O-meter, as I know THAT much** we "love" (you man) (as Kevin Sommers taught me how to say that without being stupid).. your posts NEVER seem immature, and I never see too many of them...... Mike From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jun 5 05:06:46 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 05:06:46 -0400 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye Message-ID: I did but it is on its way to him now! From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jun 5 05:09:47 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 05:09:47 -0400 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: Passport is all up to date! I will bring my sister-in-law as a translator (her being a Geordie n'all!). COLIN From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Jun 5 05:21:04 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 05:21:04 -0400 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: Well, if there's no Scottish gig, lets hire a minibus and travel from Scotland en-masse:-) We could all sing Summer Holiday, play travel games and moon passers by. Stuart Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:45:34 +0100 From: Layla Thompson Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me Layla. xx >>> dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK 06/03/01 10:24pm >>> Is this gig still going to happen? Will there be a Scottish gig? I intend to go to the Newcastle gig - anyone else? Dave ------------------------------ From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Jun 5 05:26:33 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 05:26:33 -0400 Subject: OFF. Jefferson Starship - Dragonfly Message-ID: Founder member of JA, Bob Harvey recently put out a CD under the banner of San Francisco Blue, prior to having a heart attack:-( Top qulaity music and hopefully theres more to come post bypass http://www.sfblue.co.uk Stuart From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jun 5 07:36:16 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Coleman) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 05:36:16 -0600 Subject: OFF. Judge T. In-Reply-To: <200106050926.FAA19856@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: just a comment that I thought JT's insanity when he was around was a "cracker"..... uniquely bizzare with a distinct flavor all his own..... what a rocker... come back after Hamburg please. m From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 5 07:30:09 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 12:30:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:37:07 +0100 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > Does anyone out there, apart from me, actually own something that Coleman > hasn;t got? Oh yes, and Mike cries himself to sleep every night because of it... -- A Friend of Fernando Poo From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 5 07:33:18 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 12:33:18 +0100 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: Doug Pearson's message of Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:58:34 -0400 Message-ID: Doug Pearson writes: > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:47:38 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI > wrote: > >Hey, that's it - get Hawkwind to do a JA cover - ah, but which one? > > "Have You Seen The Saucers?", of course! Nah, gotta be a blanga version of White Rabbit. FoFP From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jun 5 07:50:05 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:50:05 -0400 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: I have a great live version of White Rabbit by the Murmurs. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jun 5 07:52:33 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:52:33 -0400 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: They also did a good studio version. From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jun 5 07:51:54 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 12:51:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: Please pick me up from borders. Will be standing on A68 with newspaper under arm and rose in buttonhole. Rob >From: Zeitgeist >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig >Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 05:21:04 -0400 > >Well, if there's no Scottish gig, lets hire a minibus and travel from >Scotland en-masse:-) > >We could all sing Summer Holiday, play travel games and moon passers by. > >Stuart > >Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:45:34 +0100 >From: Layla Thompson >Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig > >me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me >me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me >me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me >me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me >me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me >me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me >me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > > >Layla. xx > > > >>> dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK 06/03/01 10:24pm >>> >Is this gig still going to happen? >Will there be a Scottish gig? >I intend to go to the Newcastle gig - anyone else? > >Dave > >------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jun 5 07:54:32 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:54:32 -0400 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: Shouldn't you be in a railway hotel with gun oil on the sheets or a man in a homburg waiting in the street? From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jun 5 08:56:48 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Coleman) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 06:56:48 -0600 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye In-Reply-To: <200106051130.MAA00350@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: "Oh yes, and Mike cries himself to sleep every night because of it...": Mike Holmes is the King. he has "The Item". I had managed to block it from my head, but he just put it back in. I am missing TONS of stuff.......mostly posters, badges, etc........ I don't have the original "Hurry On" 45, and I just traded away my blue label first LP..... somehow I feel good about these things..... also, my sources aren't as good anymore,,,, Karma. payback. blackness. self bad concious. breakdown. instability age. possible slight retardation. dog rot. wasn't tough, didn't "get going". From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Jun 5 08:39:12 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:39:12 -0400 Subject: BOC: Here it comes In-Reply-To: <200106042247.SAA29065@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: Nick wrote: > I haven't gotten to the point of ticking off the > minutes yet, but I'm roughly 17 hours away from > popping "Curse of the Hidden Mirror" into my CD > player. > > Technically I could go to one of the local music stores > that opens for a couple hours at midnight every Monday, > but I think I can wait. I'm wondering what the store clerk will think as I stride up to the counter with the new Blue Oyster Cult and the new album by The Cult, "Beyond Good and Evil," which is also released today. If the clerk starts singing, "We understand, we understand..." I'm going to freak out. ;-) Brian Hey, any new albums by Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam? -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio A veritable WAX MUSEUM http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Jun 5 09:06:49 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 09:06:49 -0400 Subject: BOC: Pocket on the radio Message-ID: >From blueoystercult.com > "Pocket" makes most-added list for 2nd week > > Blue ?yster Cult's new single, "Pocket," was again listed as a top 5 > Most-Added track on rock radio, according to FMQB.com. The single has been > getting some heavy airplay and excellent feedback from listeners and DJs > alike. This is some great news. Unfortunately, I haven't heard it on my local classic rock station. Maybe I just haven't been listening at the right time though.... Has anyone heard it on the radio? Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio It's MP3 POEtry http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From hne at INETNOW.NET Tue Jun 5 09:22:22 2001 From: hne at INETNOW.NET (Keith Hopkins) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:22:22 +0900 Subject: BOC: Imaginos Message-ID: I'm doing a little globe trotting next week. Specifically to Paris on Sat/Sun and then on to Lyon and Grenoble. I've heard it said on the list that pristine copies of Imaginos are still be found produced in France. Does anyone happen to know of a shop where I could find one of these beauties, or at least who is publishing/pressing it? Roaming somewhere in Tokyo, Keith From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 5 09:50:54 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:50:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig In-Reply-To: Zeitgeist's message of Tue, 5 Jun 2001 05:21:04 -0400 Message-ID: Zeitgeist writes: > Well, if there's no Scottish gig, lets hire a minibus and travel from > Scotland en-masse:-) I could run a minibus from Edinburgh. I used to do that for the Glasgow gigs anyway. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 5 09:51:27 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:51:27 +0100 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: Colin Allen's message of Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:50:05 -0400 Message-ID: Colin Allen writes: > I have a great live version of White Rabbit by the Murmurs. MP3! MP3! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 5 09:53:59 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:53:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye In-Reply-To: Coleman's message of Tue, 5 Jun 2001 06:56:48 -0600 Message-ID: Coleman writes: > "Oh yes, and Mike cries himself to sleep every night because of it...": > I don't have the original "Hurry On" 45 Damn. I saw one of those on sale in the main street in Brussells quite recently. Anyone know the name of the really good vinyl shop on the main boulevard so that Mike can write them a nice letter? FoFP From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Tue Jun 5 10:29:50 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (Jean-Charles Moriaud) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:29:50 +0200 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <3B1CDD0E.6030507@inetnow.net> Message-ID: I would suggest big stores like FNAC or Vigin Megastore, both in the "champ Elysees". Have a good stay in Paris. JCMoriaud France (not quite in Paris...) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jun 5 11:19:28 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:19:28 -0400 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: Mike (& anyone else really) You can download the mp3s from http://www.idrive.com The username is colinjallen, password Napoleon The Murmurs, for those who have not heard of them, were Leisha Hailey and Heather Grody; they made 4 albums in the 1990s and are my favourite non- space rock band. Generally their music was somewhat girl band in style with a punky, anarchic edge to it. Leisha is probably best known as kd langs ex-girlfriend and Heather's girlfriend is the woman who plays the cute female doctor in ER. They were big on the Gay Pride circuit in the US. Cheers, COLIN From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jun 5 10:50:18 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:50:18 +0100 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010604180540.00c0dcf0@pop.madasafish.com> Message-ID: In article <4.3.2.7.0.20010604180540.00c0dcf0 at pop.madasafish.com>, Chris Warburton writes >No, me pleeeeeease....45 today > >ChrisW Happy Birthday, Chris! -- Jon From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jun 5 11:05:01 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:05:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: Has this ever happened to you? Message-ID: Hi Folks... June 4th, 2001...a date that will live in infamy! Without Used Kids here in town, there's no reason to go on living! :( If Amoeba ever goes up in flames too, that's it! I moving to Europe! :) Grakkl (FAA) Landmark music store burns; 70,000 titles lost Used Kids Records opened in 1986 in a basement storefront Tuesday, June 5, 2001 Alice Thomas Columbus Dispatch Higher Education Reporter A pile of charred music drew a crowd of scavengers and mourners to the sidewalk outside Used Kids Records yesterday after an early-morning fire. The scene was a fitting tribute to a store whose unique inventory attracted bargain-hunting college students and serious collectors for 15 years. "It's a family is what it is -- a really open family of people who care about music," said Keith Hanson, an English major at Ohio State University. "You hear what people are saying when they see this. They act like it's a death -- and it is." Since it opened in 1986 in a basement storefront at 1992 N. High St., Used Kids had become a hard-to-see landmark in an era when independent businesses along the busy street are dwindling. Now, its future is uncertain. A short in the ceiling wiring at the adjacent Used Kids Annex caught fire about 2:45 a.m., said Kelly McGuire, spokeswoman for the Columbus Division of Fire. "The main thing right now is the loss of income," co-owner Dan Dow said. "We're looking into maybe relocating temporarily." Gone are tens of thousands of records and CDs -- and a favorite hangout of music lovers. Hanson, who lives next door in an apartment above Buckeye Donuts, said he dropped into Used Kids about five times a week to look for music and chat with friends. That's not unusual. The store survived because of its regulars, who'd stop in to get money or trade credit for CDs and check out ever-changing offerings. "It's a total downer," OSU freshman Conor McCarthy said as he walked past the pile. "They've also got a lot of CDs that other places don't have, like imports." But the feeling wasn't all gloom and doom. Store manager Ron House had a quick, sarcastic answer for a group of curiosity-seekers who stopped to ask what had happened. "There was this hard-core band down here and they were really (expletive) hot," House said with a smile. "They burned the place down!" Used Kids' patrons were accustomed to a healthy dose of punk rock-style cynicism. In the wake of recent riotous parties in the off-campus area, the store advertised discounts to customers who brought in plastic "knee-knocker" pellets fired by police. But it also had a serious side: Used Kids had a reputation among record collectors who bought and sold rare albums and 45s at the store and, in recent years, via the Internet. Included among the estimated 70,000 CDs and records lost were rarities such as a John Lennon/Yoko Ono album that came with a special calendar, as well as valuable rock-art posters. Also destroyed was a collection of about 1,000 jazz records bought last week, employee Tom Shannon said. "The amount of vinyl coming off the streets -- it shrinks every year," Shannon said. "It's just less and less common." Estimating the value of the loss is difficult, he said. "It takes a long, long time just to build up an inventory of stuff." Since Campus Partners began its effort to revitalize the area, many stores along High Street -- particularly south of Used Kids -- have disappeared. Campus Partners isn't interested in the Used Kids property, said Terry Foegler, president of the nonprofit group. The structure can be saved, but other businesses in the building -- the Pita Pit and the Great Wall Chinese restaurant -- also were damaged. McGuire said the total damage to the building is estimated at $133,000. From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Tue Jun 5 12:25:05 2001 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (Tony HydraulicOrganismGeneratedforAccurateRepair,Destruction) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:25:05 -0500 Subject: OFF an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply Message-ID: Chris Warburton: > No, me pleeeeeease....45 today Feliz cumplea?os! -Hogard From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 5 12:35:31 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (tyrone shoelaces) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:05:31 +0930 Subject: can you spare a square?? Im all out and in a dilemma Off Message-ID: Hey Mike C pass that mofo here..... twwwwwwwffffffffffffffffffffhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhtttttthhhhhhhhhhhhh k kkKK kkkKKKKHHHHHH kkkkkkKKKKKKAAAAAAACHHHHHHHHH kooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh kooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh kooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh kooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh kooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhhhh kinda grab ya by the boo boo huh? teee heee sorry I wasted all these digital dooodads for such a weird message but heyyyyyyy From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Tue Jun 5 12:19:02 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 12:19:02 -0400 Subject: BOC: I got it-- a tentative review/overview Message-ID: The packaging is cool. The production is miles better as a whole because its consistent., HF was not. The band has definately found a tempo it likes to play in in this configuration. Buck is good. Eric's voice I almsot didnt recognize on Showtime. Do not pay attention to the lyrics to closely. some are rather BAD. -- "exactly" is not a good word to put in a song about old gods returning. emphasizing it doesnt help either. I just like to be bad is not that much better for verbiage. Pocket, is a rocket. Dance on stilts, here comes that feeling are pure well honed Buckpop Out of the darkness -- moody Bloom (hehe) Stone of Love - very Meltzery words. and crisp riff Eye of the Hurricane - power chord o rama. but with lots of lil riff changing. "theres an eye in my hurricane" - a lyric. (sigh) Good to feel hungry - sounds almost like they used to be with jazzy sound. "good to be angry when youre ready to yell." The song credits: Dance on Stilts - Shirley/Roeser Showtime - Bloom/Trivers The Old Gods Return - shirley/bloom/roeser Pocket - shirley/roeser One step ahead of the devil - shirley/bloom/roeser/miranda/rondinelli i just like to be bad- shirley/bloom/ B. Neumeister (who is that??) Here comes that feeling - D. Trismen (who is that ??)/Roeser Out of the darkness - shirley/miranda/bloom/roeser stone of love - meltzer/roeser. (will he actually get royalties now?) eye of the hurricane - shirley/bloom/B.Neumeister/Roeser/Rondinelli Good to feel hungry - shirley/miranda/bloom/roeser More later than sooner. must listen. Jason (under the cover of internship From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jun 5 12:51:07 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:51:07 +0100 Subject: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade In-Reply-To: <200105071037.GAA23341@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 May 2001, Zeitgeist wrote: > Well I know it died a death (still waiting for tape 1), but Juba sent > me his track listing and it's beside the others at; > > http://the-rocker.freeservers.com/bitter/boc2000.html Actually, I have so nearly got round to sending my first tape on over the last few months; it should happen any day now. Just for the sake of geting it out of the way... That should prompt Alun to send mine on obviously and then it'll all start moving again. Sure it will :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: Porcupine Tree - _Signify_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 5 13:03:37 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (tyrone shoelaces) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:33:37 +0930 Subject: goodnight champions of the bubbly bong Off Message-ID: Goodnight and good day Mb From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Jun 5 13:02:06 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 12:02:06 -0500 Subject: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Jon Jarrett wrote: :Subject: Re: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade : :On Mon, 7 May 2001, Zeitgeist wrote: : :> Well I know it died a death (still waiting for tape 1), but Juba sent :> me his track listing and it's beside the others at; :> :> http://the-rocker.freeservers.com/bitter/boc2000.html : : Actually, I have so nearly got round to sending my first tape on :over the last few months; it should happen any day now. Just for the sake :of geting it out of the way... That should prompt Alun to send mine on :obviously and then it'll all start moving again. Sure it will :-) Yours, : :Jon well, I was also holding it up, and as I've done up one of my own, I just sent along the ones I had received last week.... Arin (sorry!) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Tue Jun 5 13:25:06 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:25:06 -0700 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: >No, me pleeeeeease....45 today > >ChrisW Alas, I tick over 43 on Thursday. Followed on Monday by my first medical exam since 30, sigh. Geezers Unite! scorch From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jun 5 13:39:47 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:39:47 EDT Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF In-Reply-To: <200106051725.KAA22995@bob.te-cats.com> Message-ID: On 5 Jun 2001, at 10:25, John H. McCartney wrote: > >No, me pleeeeeease....45 today > > > >ChrisW > > > Alas, I tick over 43 on Thursday. Followed on Monday by my > first medical exam since 30, sigh. > > Geezers Unite! Oohh. Watch that colon cancer exam! And the prostate exam! theo [47!] From StevenTice at AOL.COM Tue Jun 5 13:41:08 2001 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:41:08 EDT Subject: BOC: I got it-- a tentative review/overview Message-ID: In a message dated 06/05/2001 12:37:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US writes: > Here comes that feeling - D. Trismen (who is that ??)/Roeser > Dick Trismen wrote the lyrics to "Madness to the Method" on Club Ninja. SET From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Tue Jun 5 13:57:56 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:57:56 -0400 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question Message-ID: Hello Doug, > Just checked my copy of 'Hawkwind Connection'. The versions >of "Greenfly" and "Hornets" are ... > ... also not -exactly- the same as the 'Hype' album >versions, but sound like rough/preliminary/partial mixes of those >versions. The "rhythm" tracks sound exactly the same, but there are sounds >on the 'Hype' album versions that aren't on the 'Hawkwind Connection' >versions, which leads me to believe that these (HC versions) are early, >rough mixes of the tracks (if they actually were originally "demos", they >were still used as the basis for the final tracks ... > The 'Hype' album versions are definitely better than the HC versions > IMO, being that they're the "completed" versions. Are you sure about this? The Hype versions definitely sound way better, but I think thats just the difference between a professional mastering job from master tapes vs. copying tracks onto a CD from old scratchy vinyl. I've spent an hour listening to these tracks back-to-back and side-by-side, and it's not just the rhythm that's the same, the vocal tracks are the same too, and I can't pinpoint any synth swoosh or burble that doesn't appear on both the Connection and the Hype versions - could you point me at some of the differences you hear? Help! What am I missing!? I did notice that the HC version seems to be a bit faster than the Hype version, but I think that's just an artifact of the original vinyl->CD transfer, or maybe of my own playback. Incidently, the Spirit of the P/Age offers this lyric for Greenfly - 'As their tiny jaws / munch on plan and cause' - I think a case could be made for 'munch on planet cores' as well. Stephan P.S. Any word on when we can expect the next Lexicon Devil F/i reissues? P.P.S. So far this week my (snail)mailbox has disgorged Circle - Taantumus, Pharaoh Overlord - #1, and Fluorescent Tunnelvision (includes Circle, Ektroverde, and Tree Sine)... whew, I'm Finnished... From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jun 5 13:45:15 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:45:15 +0100 Subject: BOC-L 2000 Tape Trade In-Reply-To: <200105081238.NAA05806@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 May 2001, bart wrote: > Still waiting on your tape Alun :-) Yeah, come on Alun, send him mine if nothing else, he'll like that one :-P Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From nick at NETPHD.NET Tue Jun 5 14:00:37 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:00:37 -0400 Subject: BOC: I got it-- a tentative review/overview In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F65EA@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: Quoting "Scruton, Jason" : > The packaging is cool. > The production is miles better as a whole because its consistent., HF was > not. I haven't heard the whole thing yet. . . I'm about halfway through it. I have to say that so far I think it's MILES beyond Heaven Forbid. In fact, after hearing what I've heard of the new one, I appreciate HF a lot LESS than I did even just yesterday. I think the songwriting (music-wise) is FANTASTIC this time out, but I too noticed some lyrics that made me cringe. I would think Buck, Eric and Allen would recognize the stuff that sticks out so prominently. Of course Allen doesn't even have a single solitary songwriting credit. I think these days they just give him a time and he shows up. But this is definitely a winner. I'm loving it so far. --Nick From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jun 5 14:13:38 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:13:38 EDT Subject: BOC: I got it-- a tentative review/overview In-Reply-To: <200106051800.OAA22447@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: On 5 Jun 2001, at 14:00, Nick English wrote: > I think the songwriting (music-wise) is FANTASTIC this > time out, but I too noticed some lyrics that made me > cringe. I would think Buck, Eric and Allen would > recognize the stuff that sticks out so prominently. Good point. I'm often amazed at some of the lyrics they let slip by... Of > course Allen doesn't even have a single solitary > songwriting credit. I think these days they just give > him a time And a carton of smokes! and he shows up. > > But this is definitely a winner. I'm loving it so far. > Getting mine in about 2 hours... theo From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jun 5 13:12:37 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:12:37 -0400 Subject: was RE: calvert question, now OFF: Circle Message-ID: Stephan said... >P.P.S. So far this week my (snail)mailbox has disgorged Circle - Taantumus, Oh, so the 'new one' Richard was talking about is really the new one that Jussi had sent me before (seeing that Taantumus is Track 9 on what I have). How do you like that "Lyhytaallosta" track...awesome, eh? Who has released this one? Metamorphos is gone, so I guess Ektro (Jussi's label). Is it/will it be on tUMULt here in the US as well? I guess I will have to find out. >Pharaoh Overlord - #1, and Fluorescent Tunnelvision (includes Circle, >Ektroverde, and Tree Sine)... whew, I'm Finnished... All good stuff though. Haven't heard Pharaoh Overlord yet though. Wonder why Frustram Quartet didn't make it on that one. Grakkl (FAA) From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Tue Jun 5 14:29:31 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:29:31 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion Message-ID: >hearing what I've heard of the new one, I appreciate HF >a lot LESS than I did even just yesterday. > >I think the songwriting (music-wise) is FANTASTIC this >time out, The band has benefited from playing together as much as they have live. They sound like a functioning unit. and Bobby R's drumming is gathering some courage to syncopate. What strikes me as ironic though, about the whole album, is its named after a song written by two people who are (to varying degrees and in varying ways) estranged from the band today. Go figure. BUT its promising that more than two of the tracks are collaborative songwriting efforts. after all, Rondinelli is the first drummer since Albert B. to be in a writing credit, right? Kasim From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 5 14:48:31 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:48:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye/Bill's sad story Message-ID: if Mark is waiting for his 'Spacebrock' from CD Services, please confirm on: agcdser at aol.com otherwise just ignore me Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:48 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye/Bill's sad story > Mark Von Bargen wrote: > > Bill, > > > > The Family Tree album is well worth it; get it if you can. > > Spacebrock - can't comment yet as I'm waiting for my copy to arrive. > > > > Mark > > I read Andy G's review of Family Tree and I am certainly excited about it. > I'm still waiting for Spacebrock. Have been for a while. Can't get Family > Tree until work picks up. Sitting at home twiddling my thumbs due to our > glorious government wisdom in setting up a GST. The collapse of a major > insurer hasn't helped the building trade either. Ah well, got me (my) music. > > Bill > NP - Omega - Time Robber From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 5 16:34:22 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:34:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye Message-ID: dog rot?????????????? per-lease!!!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coleman" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:56 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye > "Oh yes, and Mike cries himself to sleep every night because of it...": > > Mike Holmes is the King. he has "The Item". > > I had managed to block it from my head, but he just put it back in. > I am missing TONS of stuff.......mostly posters, badges, etc........ > > I don't have the original "Hurry On" 45, and I just traded away my blue > label first LP..... > > somehow I feel good about these things..... > > also, my sources aren't as good anymore,,,, > > Karma. > > payback. > > blackness. > > self bad concious. > > breakdown. > > > instability > > > age. > > possible slight retardation. > > dog rot. > > wasn't tough, didn't "get going". From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 5 16:42:16 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:42:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig..no, make that Balckpool...or Canterbury Message-ID: is it just me who's completely lost with al of this or have I missed something? Today's news is that the organisers of the "Bash at Blackpool" on 12th August have got these great two colour flyers (great because they look good) to promote the thing so if anyone is prepared to donate a wadge to local record shops or similar, anywhere in the country, then just send me an e.mail to agcdser at aol.com with 'flyers' in the subject line, your name and address and I will get some sent to you free of charge. We've also got half a ton of flyers for the real Hawkwind's gig at Canterbury on 18th if anyone wants to do the same with those. Toodle pip, Andy Garibaldi (who's just spent ALL DAY listening to space music - christ, where's that Cradle Of Filth album!!!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 12:54 PM Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig > Shouldn't you be in a railway hotel with gun oil on the sheets or a man in > a homburg waiting in the street? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 5 16:43:07 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:43:07 +0100 Subject: NIK: new album Message-ID: yes - as soon as they deliver it (which shouldn't be too long now). Andy Garibaldi (CD Services) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Witt" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:41 AM Subject: NIK: new album > Is anyone here carrying the new album? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 5 16:45:36 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:45:36 +0100 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: shine on....forgot to check - it's on Dave's desk - talk about heavy, intense, driving instrumental rock/psych/prog.....man, that bass!!!! Tomorrow - definitely tomorrow. Andy Garibaldi (posting for all he's worth tonight) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 12:58 AM Subject: Re: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:47:38 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI > wrote: > >Hey, that's it - get Hawkwind to do a JA cover - ah, but which one? > > "Have You Seen The Saucers?", of course! > > >Andy Garibaldi (still coming down from hearing this incredible album today, > >the title of which and artist completely escapes me - next time!!!) > > do tell ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 5 16:50:19 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:50:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: Has this ever happened to you? Message-ID: jeez- hope they had insurance!!!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:05 PM Subject: OFF: Has this ever happened to you? > Hi Folks... > > June 4th, 2001...a date that will live in infamy! > > Without Used Kids here in town, there's no reason to go on living! :( > If Amoeba ever goes up in flames too, that's it! I moving to Europe! :) > > Grakkl (FAA) > > Landmark music store burns; 70,000 titles lost > > Used Kids Records opened in 1986 in a basement storefront > > Tuesday, June 5, 2001 > Alice Thomas > Columbus Dispatch Higher Education Reporter > > A pile of charred music drew a crowd of scavengers and mourners to the > sidewalk outside Used Kids Records yesterday after an early-morning fire. > > The scene was a fitting tribute to a store whose unique inventory attracted > bargain-hunting college students and serious collectors for 15 years. > > "It's a family is what it is -- a really open family of people who care about > music," said Keith Hanson, an English major at Ohio State University. "You > hear what people are saying when they see this. They act like it's a death > -- and it is." > > Since it opened in 1986 in a basement storefront at 1992 N. High St., Used > Kids had become a hard-to-see landmark in an era when independent businesses > along the busy street are dwindling. > > Now, its future is uncertain. > > A short in the ceiling wiring at the adjacent Used Kids Annex caught fire > about 2:45 a.m., said Kelly McGuire, spokeswoman for the Columbus Division > of Fire. > > "The main thing right now is the loss of income," co-owner Dan Dow said. > "We're looking into maybe relocating temporarily." > > Gone are tens of thousands of records and CDs -- and a favorite hangout of > music lovers. > > Hanson, who lives next door in an apartment above Buckeye Donuts, said he > dropped into Used Kids about five times a week to look for music and chat > with friends. > > That's not unusual. The store survived because of its regulars, who'd stop in > to get money or trade credit for CDs and check out ever-changing offerings. > > "It's a total downer," OSU freshman Conor McCarthy said as he walked past > the pile. "They've also got a lot of CDs that other places don't have, like > imports." > > But the feeling wasn't all gloom and doom. Store manager Ron House had a > quick, sarcastic answer for a group of curiosity-seekers who stopped to ask > what had happened. > > "There was this hard-core band down here and they were really (expletive) > hot," House said with a smile. "They burned the place down!" > > Used Kids' patrons were accustomed to a healthy dose of punk rock-style > cynicism. In the wake of recent riotous parties in the off-campus area, the > store advertised discounts to customers who brought in plastic > "knee-knocker" pellets fired by police. > > But it also had a serious side: Used Kids had a reputation among record > collectors who bought and sold rare albums and 45s at the store and, in > recent years, via the Internet. > > Included among the estimated 70,000 CDs and records lost were rarities such > as a John Lennon/Yoko Ono album that came with a special calendar, as well > as valuable rock-art posters. > > Also destroyed was a collection of about 1,000 jazz records bought last > week, employee Tom Shannon said. > > "The amount of vinyl coming off the streets -- it shrinks every year," Shannon > said. "It's just less and less common." > > Estimating the value of the loss is difficult, he said. > > "It takes a long, long time just to build up an inventory of stuff." > > Since Campus Partners began its effort to revitalize the area, many stores > along High Street -- particularly south of Used Kids -- have disappeared. > > Campus Partners isn't interested in the Used Kids property, said Terry > Foegler, president of the nonprofit group. > > The structure can be saved, but other businesses in the building -- the Pita Pit > and the Great Wall Chinese restaurant -- also were damaged. > > McGuire said the total damage to the building is estimated at $133,000. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 5 16:56:24 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:56:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: ah, but what if they moon back!!!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zeitgeist" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:21 AM Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig > Well, if there's no Scottish gig, lets hire a minibus and travel from > Scotland en-masse:-) > > We could all sing Summer Holiday, play travel games and moon passers by. > > Stuart > > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:45:34 +0100 > From: Layla Thompson > Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig > > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > > > Layla. xx > > > >>> dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK 06/03/01 10:24pm >>> > Is this gig still going to happen? > Will there be a Scottish gig? > I intend to go to the Newcastle gig - anyone else? > > Dave > > ------------------------------ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 5 17:01:50 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:01:50 +0100 Subject: HW:(Darxtar sort of) Message-ID: Hi, If anyone out there knows where I can lay my hands on ten or fifteen copies of Darxtar's 'SJU' CD, e.mail me at: agcdser at aol.com with details. Thanks, Andy Garibaldi (coz the Scandinavian crew have gone home) ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:51 PM Subject: Re: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" > Colin Allen writes: > > > I have a great live version of White Rabbit by the Murmurs. > > > MP3! MP3! From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jun 5 17:42:40 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:42:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: Count me in! Dave -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 05 June 2001 14:51 Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig >Zeitgeist writes: > >> Well, if there's no Scottish gig, lets hire a minibus and travel from >> Scotland en-masse:-) > >I could run a minibus from Edinburgh. I used to do that for the Glasgow >gigs anyway. > >FoFP > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jun 5 17:59:47 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Burp) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:59:47 -0600 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye In-Reply-To: <01d201c0ee03$222f1f40$c70abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: "dog rot??????????????" I just like the ring of it????? if it could be applied to itchy red scaling skin, then maybe my application was appropriate, seeing as how one nurse at a doc-in-the box told me it looked like "mange".......(another scabies) (oh those were the good old days of hope and light) THAT would have been a blessing..... 5 years and still wondering......... don't get too close to the saucers......it's dangerous..... so if there is a British meaning, or any 'ol actual meaning I am ignorant of, then I've failure........... please "Adjust Me" m c From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Jun 5 17:05:51 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:05:51 -0700 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF Message-ID: I know I'm going to be violated when they put on those damn gloves! Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted Jackson To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: Re: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF > On 5 Jun 2001, at 10:25, John H. McCartney wrote: > > > >No, me pleeeeeease....45 today > > > > > >ChrisW > > > > > > Alas, I tick over 43 on Thursday. Followed on Monday by my > > first medical exam since 30, sigh. > > > > Geezers Unite! > > Oohh. Watch that colon cancer exam! And the prostate exam! > > theo > [47!] From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jun 5 18:20:42 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Papules) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:20:42 -0600 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF In-Reply-To: <001e01c0ee03$707b1140$2fc0b3d1@kathleens> Message-ID: "I know I'm going to be violated when they put on those damn gloves! Steve The Moonman" it'll be a dissap-ointment. From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Jun 5 17:10:00 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:10:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye Message-ID: Hi, Oh, you mean that old 45rpm single. Bought myself a copy a few years back. Here's how it happened .... Me: I'm a big HW fan My Boss: Oh I've got one of their singles from the 70's Me: Silver Machine I expect, has it got the sleeve? My Boss: Can't remember, I'll dig it out tonight and bring it in tomorrow (Next Day) My Boss: Here's the single I was talking about Me: Gulp (quaking in boots at thought of possibly scoring a copy of HoS) (Thinks: Stay calm Dacombe, act cool, just show casual interest) Oh right, yeah, Hurry On Sundown, that's their first single, shame it's not Silver Machine. I'll buy it off you if you like. My Boss: Yeah, OK, how about ?1? Me: (Producing ?1 quicker than something that produces something very quick). There you go, ta. (Had to remain calm for the rest of the day ..... failed dismally) Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Coleman To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:56 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye > "Oh yes, and Mike cries himself to sleep every night because of it...": > > Mike Holmes is the King. he has "The Item". > > I had managed to block it from my head, but he just put it back in. > I am missing TONS of stuff.......mostly posters, badges, etc........ > > I don't have the original "Hurry On" 45, and I just traded away my blue > label first LP..... > > somehow I feel good about these things..... > > also, my sources aren't as good anymore,,,, > > Karma. > > payback. > > blackness. > > self bad concious. > > breakdown. > > > instability > > > age. > > possible slight retardation. > > dog rot. > > wasn't tough, didn't "get going". > From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Jun 5 17:35:36 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:35:36 +0100 Subject: OFF. Jefferson Starship - Dragonfly In-Reply-To: <01e201c0ed58$2f630f60$c2c53bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: I'm rather fond of "Baron von Tollbooth...." meself. And I'm another who thinks thnat "Blows..." is the only good thing went out as a "(Jefferson) Starship" album... now, if I could find another copy of "Bless Its Pointed Little Head"...... ChrisW ObCD: Miles Davis At The Plugged Nickel (Disk 5) At 01:40 05/06/01, you wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:12:01PM +0800, Bill & Cynthia wrote: > > > The closest it gets to a Hawkwind number is a song called "Hyperdrive" >which > > > goes for a length of 7:39....written by Grace Slick and Pete Sears. > > > > Any good? > >Had to play it to boost the old memory. I haven't played any JS since they >changed their name to "Starship" and released that atrocity called "Knee >Deep in the Hoopla." > >If you like Grace Slick's voice you'll like this. I'm also of the opinion >that any album Paul Kanther is on is a good album. Slick did a few solo >albums of which IMO "Dreams" is the best. > >Bill > > > > -- > > > > | | /\ > > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > > | | / > > With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > > necessarily a good idea. > > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) > > "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Jun 5 17:43:19 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:43:19 +0100 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: <200106051133.MAA02809@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Th mind is well and truly boggled....... ChrisW At 12:33 05/06/01, you wrote: >Doug Pearson writes: > > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:47:38 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI > > wrote: > > >Hey, that's it - get Hawkwind to do a JA cover - ah, but which one? > > > > "Have You Seen The Saucers?", of course! > >Nah, gotta be a blanga version of White Rabbit. > >FoFP "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jun 5 18:48:59 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (yellow teeth) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:48:59 -0600 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye In-Reply-To: <00be01c0ee05$391fb3c0$9906883e@jezd> Message-ID: Dear JD, of whom I will add to your credit (you know I can actually mail things)(cause I know you want me to die of the now infamous vomitting accident that the legions are lining up to witness) as much as I guess that means you won't part with that crackly old thing that only has the color blue on it, to TRY to get a little pleasure from..... as always, it's you!!!! BUT!!!!!!! BUT!!!! drumroll please!!!! it's not "THE ITEM"!!!! m From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jun 5 18:00:49 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:00:49 -0400 Subject: OFF. Jefferson Starship - Dragonfly Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:35:36 +0100, Chris Warburton wrote: >I'm rather fond of "Baron von Tollbooth...." meself. Me, too. I find that one to be a mixed bag, but the good parts are *very* good. "Your Mind Has Left Your Body" is one of the best psychedelic recordings ever, and (I am NOT a Dead fan BTW) Jerry's steel guitar on that one is especially trippy (as is the whatever-the-weird-chimy-ethnic- percussion-instrument-is played by Mickey Hart). And as for Grace Slick solo albums, 'Manhole' (post-Airplane, pre-Starship, recorded slightly before 'Baron Tollbooth') is the good one. >And I'm another who thinks thnat "Blows..." is the only good thing went >out as a "(Jefferson) Starship" album... now, if I could find another copy >of "Bless Its Pointed Little Head"...... Have you heard the 'Fillmore' live CD (from '68 IIRC) that was recently released? Very similar to, and possibly better than, 'Pointed Head'. Essential for Airplane fans (like me) ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Jun 5 18:04:27 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:04:27 +0100 Subject: an intimate post ofF Under Constant pressure to Komply OFF In-Reply-To: <200106051725.KAA22995@bob.te-cats.com> Message-ID: Happy birthday, dude.... And thanks to everybody who sent me their good wishes.... ChrisW (Still playing my b'day CD - yes, the Miles Davis set) At 18:25 05/06/01, you wrote: > >No, me pleeeeeease....45 today > > > >ChrisW > > >Alas, I tick over 43 on Thursday. Followed on Monday by my >first medical exam since 30, sigh. > >Geezers Unite! > > > >scorch "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Tue Jun 5 18:11:37 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 15:11:37 -0700 Subject: new in the Toolbox Message-ID: So, had my first listen to the new Tool, _Lateralus_, last night. First impression - yow, good stuff! Lots of crunch, some really nice blanga, and of course the obligatory Tool wierdness. A real highlight is the "booklet"... All the regular info & such is on a plastic sleeve over the jewelcase, while the rest is pure art, all printed on clear plastic sheeting. There's a great spirally thing on the sheet under the clear disc tray, and the booklet itself is a spacey adaptation of one of those layered human anatomy things you might remember from textbooks, where you turn each page to get deeper into the body. This will probably be the best cd artwork of the year. Jo-jo the mutant gives this one four thumbs up. scorch From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 5 18:40:24 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:40:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye Message-ID: actually it's be a great name for a band. Hawkwind supported by Dog Rot - kinda got a ring to it, that one Alan Davey's Dog Rot?? (OK, stop laughing at the back - and you thought Coleman's e.mails were bad......) - I don't think so. Andy Garibaldi (bored to death tonight - shows doesn't it) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burp" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:59 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye > "dog rot??????????????" > > I just like the ring of it????? > > if it could be applied to itchy red scaling skin, then maybe my application > was appropriate, seeing as how one nurse at a doc-in-the box told me it > looked like "mange".......(another scabies) (oh those were the good old > days of hope and light) > > THAT would have been a blessing..... > > 5 years and still wondering......... > > don't get too close to the saucers......it's dangerous..... > > > so if there is a British meaning, or any 'ol actual meaning I am ignorant > of, then I've failure........... > > please "Adjust Me" > > > m c From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Jun 5 18:14:08 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:14:08 +0100 Subject: OFF. Jefferson Starship - Dragonfly In-Reply-To: <200106052200.SAA25068@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: At 23:00 05/06/01, you wrote: >On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:35:36 +0100, Chris Warburton > wrote: > >And as for Grace Slick solo albums, 'Manhole' (post-Airplane, pre-Starship, >recorded slightly before 'Baron Tollbooth') is the good one. Wasn't too keen on that, but then again, I haven't heard it for about 20 years, so I might think differently now... > >And I'm another who thinks thnat "Blows..." is the only good thing went > >out as a "(Jefferson) Starship" album... now, if I could find another copy > >of "Bless Its Pointed Little Head"...... > >Have you heard the 'Fillmore' live CD (from '68 IIRC) that was recently >released? Very similar to, and possibly better than, 'Pointed Head'. >Essential for Airplane fans (like me) ... Hmm... wallet itch again.... Cheers, ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 5 18:42:07 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:42:07 +0100 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: with Bridget on vocals? or Sam?? - hey, I feel a good idea coming on here..... Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Warburton" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:43 PM Subject: Re: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" > Th mind is well and truly boggled....... > > ChrisW > > At 12:33 05/06/01, you wrote: > >Doug Pearson writes: > > > > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 23:47:38 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI > > > wrote: > > > >Hey, that's it - get Hawkwind to do a JA cover - ah, but which one? > > > > > > "Have You Seen The Saucers?", of course! > > > >Nah, gotta be a blanga version of White Rabbit. > > > >FoFP > > > "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - > Bierce > > So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 5 18:42:52 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:42:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: and possibly me Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "david hall" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:42 PM Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig > Count me in! > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: M Holmes > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 05 June 2001 14:51 > Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig > > > >Zeitgeist writes: > > > >> Well, if there's no Scottish gig, lets hire a minibus and travel from > >> Scotland en-masse:-) > > > >I could run a minibus from Edinburgh. I used to do that for the Glasgow > >gigs anyway. > > > >FoFP > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 5 18:44:25 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:44:25 +0100 Subject: OFF. Jefferson Starship - Dragonfly Message-ID: actually I've got a couple of corking JA concert tapes from '67 or thereabouts, so I would have time to do one CD-R if anyone wants it and then it's up to you. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:00 PM Subject: Re: OFF. Jefferson Starship - Dragonfly > On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:35:36 +0100, Chris Warburton > wrote: > >I'm rather fond of "Baron von Tollbooth...." meself. > > Me, too. I find that one to be a mixed bag, but the good parts are *very* > good. "Your Mind Has Left Your Body" is one of the best psychedelic > recordings ever, and (I am NOT a Dead fan BTW) Jerry's steel guitar on that > one is especially trippy (as is the whatever-the-weird-chimy-ethnic- > percussion-instrument-is played by Mickey Hart). > > And as for Grace Slick solo albums, 'Manhole' (post-Airplane, pre-Starship, > recorded slightly before 'Baron Tollbooth') is the good one. > > >And I'm another who thinks thnat "Blows..." is the only good thing went > >out as a "(Jefferson) Starship" album... now, if I could find another copy > >of "Bless Its Pointed Little Head"...... > > Have you heard the 'Fillmore' live CD (from '68 IIRC) that was recently > released? Very similar to, and possibly better than, 'Pointed Head'. > Essential for Airplane fans (like me) ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 5 18:46:51 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:46:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye Message-ID: and with that to make me feel really bad, I'm signing off tonight.......can't stand any more - back to the cosmic goop. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "yellow teeth" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:48 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye > Dear JD, of whom I will add to your credit (you know I can actually mail > things)(cause I know you want me to die of the now infamous vomitting > accident that the legions are lining up to witness) > > as much as I guess that means you won't part with that crackly old thing > that only has the color blue on it, to TRY to get a little pleasure > from..... > > as always, it's you!!!! BUT!!!!!!! BUT!!!! drumroll please!!!! > > it's not "THE ITEM"!!!! > > m From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Tue Jun 5 19:03:44 2001 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:03:44 -0700 Subject: BOC: Mirror Message-ID: Finally, some BOC content.. whoopee! Oh say it ain't so. Thats what I found lacking on HF. I was wondering specifically which lyrics are the painful ones (I'll hear for myself soon enough.. off work in 5 min.) I'm guessing its the Shirly lyrics.. Damn.. There's gotta be someone else out there, doesn't there? With some bands, lyrics are not too important and I can overlook poor ones but dammit, BOC has never been one of those bands. The lyrics matter. Oh well.. Times ain't what they used to be. By the way, this list has gone to shit in my absence. I hate to be a grouch but really.. the sig to noise ratio is beyond belief. (Yes, I've turned off NIK and HW which don't interest me but they keep coming thru the digest anyway.) I don't know how long I'm gonna last here (flame away if you like). JB -=-Snip-=- Do not pay attention to the lyrics to closely. some are rather BAD. -- "exactly" is not a good word to put in a song about old gods returning. emphasizing it doesnt help either. I just like to be bad is not that much better for verbiage. Pocket, is a rocket. Dance on stilts, here comes that feeling are pure well honed Buckpop Out of the darkness -- moody Bloom (hehe) Stone of Love - very Meltzery words. and crisp riff Eye of the Hurricane - power chord o rama. but with lots of lil riff changing. "theres an eye in my hurricane" - a lyric. (sigh) Good to feel hungry - sounds almost like they used to be with jazzy sound. "good to be angry when youre ready to yell." The song credits: Dance on Stilts - Shirley/Roeser Showtime - Bloom/Trivers The Old Gods Return - shirley/bloom/roeser Pocket - shirley/roeser One step ahead of the devil - shirley/bloom/roeser/miranda/rondinelli i just like to be bad- shirley/bloom/ B. Neumeister (who is that??) Here comes that feeling - D. Trismen (who is that ??)/Roeser Out of the darkness - shirley/miranda/bloom/roeser stone of love - meltzer/roeser. (will he actually get royalties now?) eye of the hurricane - shirley/bloom/B.Neumeister/Roeser/Rondinelli Good to feel hungry - shirley/miranda/bloom/roeser More later than sooner. must listen. Jason (under the cover of internship ------------------------------ From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jun 5 18:01:51 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:01:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw Message-ID: Check out the H L-L site for some new photos. Dave From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jun 5 15:52:57 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 20:52:57 +0100 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20010605175756.006c78ec@pop.pipeline.com> Message-ID: >Incidently, the Spirit of the P/Age offers this lyric for Greenfly - 'As >their tiny jaws / munch on plan and cause' - I think a case could be made >for 'munch on planet cores' as well. There are a few surprising errors on that otherwise superb site- the most glaring one is in "Ten seconds of Forever", wherein the forests of Venus have become 'duned', rather than 'jewelled' like they used to be in the 70s. Maybe some space bandits stole all the jewels, leaving only sand.... -- Nick Medford From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Jun 5 20:43:39 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 20:43:39 -0400 Subject: BOC: The inerview if you missed it. Message-ID: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Comment from USATODAY.com Host: We're here with Eric. Let's go. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Jackson, MS: Which tour is the most memorable in your career and what group toured with you that year? Blue Oyster Cult: I'd say the most fun tour was the earliest tour supporting Alice Cooper in 1972. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Comment from Blue Oyster Cult: We really learned a lot from touring with Alice. He really invented the blending of theater and rock and roll. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Boston, MA: Which songs from the new album do you plan to play live, and are you considering playing any of the songs from the recently released Stalk-Forrest Group CD live? Bring the show back to Boston please! John "BOCFAQMAN" Swartz Blue Oyster Cult: We're considering playing some of the Stalk Forrest material live, but we haven't been able to rehearse the songs. Currently, we can play Eye of the Hurricane, Dance on Stilts, Pockets, and a couple more. We can play at least half the record at this time. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Comment from Blue Oyster Cult: Oh, another song -- Old Gods Return. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- bryn mawr pa: Have you seen that Saturday Night Live sketch about you guys playing Don't Fear the Reaper with the cowbell? What did you think of it? And did you think that it was an accurate portrayal of what went on in the studio? Blue Oyster Cult: Hahaha! A lot of people have asked me that. Yes, I saw it, and I was floored by the send-up SNL did of us. It's completely fictional, but still funny. My own sister called me and asked if anyone from the band had passed away, because in the sketch they mention a guy who died. But it's complete fiction. (I had a friend who's well connected in show business call the SNL people to ask if they wanted us to come on sometime in the future to replicate the sketch with the real Blue Oyster Cult, but the reply was negative. We thought it would have been really hilarious). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- San Antonio, TX: The new CD is great!! Gonna do a video soon? Blue Oyster Cult: It's unlikely that MTV or VH1 would play a BOC video, so probably not, although there's talk now about doing a live DVD in 2002. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- San Francisco, CA: Did your parents ever finally accept your "jobs" and if so, when and how? Blue Oyster Cult: Hahahaha! I don't think my mother ever thought I was making a living until she came to Madison Square Garden to see us play. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Comment from Blue Oyster Cult: Go to the blueoystercult.com site to check out our tour schedule. We start a worldwide tour in May that will go on throughout the year and will include Europe. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Dave from Hoboken, N.J.: What is your collective opinion on the state of music today? I'm glad to see many of the bands from the 70s and 80s still around, but what does that say about today's groups? Blue Oyster Cult: I think every generation has the kind of music they like. We've been lucky enough to have enough fans to stick by us for 10, 20, 30 years. Plus we have a lot of teens just discovering us, and liking the music we play. I personally get e-mail from people under 21 asking if I can get them in to concerts that are 21+, so I know young people like us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Castle Rock, CO: When are you going to do a Behind the Music? Blue Oyster Cult: That's really not up to us. VH-1 has to get in touch with us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Dubuque, Iowa: Whats so controversial about "Don't Fear the Reaper"? Blue Oyster Cult: Everyone reads into that song what they want to. Religious types have insinuated that it's about suicide, but I know from talking to Buck (who wrote the song) that it's about love continuing from beyond the grave. People try to read false things into it, that's all, although I suppose people can interpret it that way. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Jonkoping, Sweden, Europe: 1. Me and my friends are all huge fans (that's why they're my friends;=) and we were all kinda wondering why they didn't buy the song "Godzilla" for the movie with that same name.. you guys have any info on that? 2. Astronomy, Imaginos, ITPOAW, I Love The Night, Nosferatu.. those songs are easily as good (or better) as/than Don't Fear the Reaper.. (not to mention a whole lot better than what today's so called musicians release. can you please have the reporters realize you've released lots of albums? Lars Jeansson, the one you warned me of. Blue Oyster Cult: The director of Godzilla certainly knew about the song, and refused to use it. Of course we were disappointed, but that was his choice. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Comment from Blue Oyster Cult: I thought it would have been perfect, if only played on a boombox by a guy on the street in the movie. But Roland Emmerich wasn't interested. Of course, by not using the song, he doomed the movie. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Macau, SAR China: 'Everyones' ' favourite pop BOC song is 'Don't Fear the Reaper' which I was listening to just yesterday. What are some favourite songs, by BOC and other bands, of BOC members? Blue Oyster Cult: Most people who know about BOC who aren't hardcore fans know Burning for You, Don't Fear the Reaper or Godzilla. But of course we've made 17 albums of other music. I think everyone in the band would pick a different favorite. My personal favorites include Take Me Away, Veteran of the Psychic Wars (which was in the movie Heavy Metal), and a few other tunes on the new album that was released today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Nantucket Mass: How do you try to reach new listeners considering the constricted playlists of radio nowadays? Blue Oyster Cult: Very good question. Radio in America is extremely restricted to mostly hits. The only place where new music or album cuts get played is college radio. I'm hoping that satellite radio which starts later this year will allow deeper cuts on albums to be played (besides the hits). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Comment from Blue Oyster Cult: Living in New York, I know from personal experience how backward commercial radio is. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Philadelphia Pa: Why no lyrics with the new CD? Blue Oyster Cult: In our history, we rarely printed the lyrics, so people would have to listen to the songs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Zenman in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada: I've already listened to COTHM 4 times today, and absolutely love it; what songs off of it can we expect to hear in concert? Blue Oyster Cult: We're currently playing the first single, which is Pocket, Dance on Stilts, Old Gods Return, and Eye of the Hurricane. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Tulsa Oklahoma: The new album is great and Thanks for making a tour stop in Tulsa this Friday. I have been counting the days!!! Shortly after the time Buck's solo album came out (which is fantastic) I had heard that Eric was to have a solo project coming. I have never heard anymore about it. Is there any plans for any solo releases from anyone in the band in the future? By the way, my girlfriend says she might leave me if she doesn't hear you guys play Astronomy this Friday....if you could help a fella out I would appreciate it!!!! Blue Oyster Cult: Hahaha! I'll try to remember to play Astronomy. As far as solo projects go, certainly anyone in the band can take the time to do one if they want to. I think by this time in our career, we found that we make our best music together. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Winnipeg, MB: "I Just Like To Be Bad" from COTHM sounds like a tribute to early Who and the Ramones. What are your influences on the new album? Blue Oyster Cult: Kudos to you for picking up the Who reference. That was a conscious effort. Everyone in the band is a product of all the bands that went before us. The writing for this record started in early 2000, and we realized that a lot of the songs we were coming up with had a "classic" sound. Instead of moving away from that, we embraced it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Waterbury CT: What are your expectations for this album? A renewed superstardom, or just a great record for the hardcore fans? Blue Oyster Cult: All the above. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Comment from Blue Oyster Cult: Thanks to all the hardcore fans for sticking by us all these years, a few of which I personally thank in the CD jacket. Also, we think we've made a really good new album, and we hope that people all around the world realize we're still hard at work making new music. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jun 5 21:09:33 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:09:33 +0800 Subject: BOC: The inerview if you missed it. Message-ID: By > the way, my girlfriend says she might leave me if she doesn't hear you guys > play Astronomy this Friday....if you could help a fella out I would > appreciate it!!!! > > Blue Oyster Cult: Hahaha! > > I'll try to remember to play Astronomy. Great interview and interesting read. They should do "Astronomy" as an encore so she has to wait for it :-) Bill From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Jun 5 21:16:08 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:16:08 EDT Subject: can you spare a square?? Im all out and in a dilemma Off Message-ID: In a message dated 6/5/01 9:32:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > kooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh > kooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh > kooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh > kooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh > kooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh > > ahhhhhhhhhhh > > kinda grab ya by the boo boo huh? > "Up in Smoke"?? Chuck From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 6 00:22:57 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:52:57 +0930 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: then we switch to plan B ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:26 AM Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig > ah, but what if they moon back!!!! > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zeitgeist" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:21 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig > > > > Well, if there's no Scottish gig, lets hire a minibus and travel from > > Scotland en-masse:-) > > > > We could all sing Summer Holiday, play travel games and moon passers by. > > > > Stuart > > > > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:45:34 +0100 > > From: Layla Thompson > > Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig > > > > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > > me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me > > > > > > Layla. xx > > > > > > >>> dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK 06/03/01 10:24pm >>> > > Is this gig still going to happen? > > Will there be a Scottish gig? > > I intend to go to the Newcastle gig - anyone else? > > > > Dave > > > > ------------------------------ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 6 00:29:42 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:59:42 +0930 Subject: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye Message-ID: sell it for 2 squids? duck - yikes!!!! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: J D To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:40 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye > Hi, > Oh, you mean that old 45rpm single. > Bought myself a copy a few years back. > Here's how it happened .... > > Me: I'm a big HW fan > My Boss: Oh I've got one of their singles from the 70's > Me: Silver Machine I expect, has it got the sleeve? > My Boss: Can't remember, I'll dig it out tonight and bring it in tomorrow > (Next Day) > My Boss: Here's the single I was talking about > Me: Gulp (quaking in boots at thought of possibly scoring a copy of HoS) > (Thinks: Stay calm Dacombe, act cool, just show casual interest) > Oh right, yeah, Hurry On Sundown, that's their first single, shame > it's not Silver Machine. > I'll buy it off you if you like. > My Boss: Yeah, OK, how about ?1? > Me: (Producing ?1 quicker than something that produces something very > quick). > There you go, ta. > (Had to remain calm for the rest of the day ..... failed dismally) > Jez > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Coleman > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:56 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Brian Tawn/Hawkfan/Trev's goodbye > > > > "Oh yes, and Mike cries himself to sleep every night because of it...": > > > > Mike Holmes is the King. he has "The Item". > > > > I had managed to block it from my head, but he just put it back in. > > I am missing TONS of stuff.......mostly posters, badges, etc........ > > > > I don't have the original "Hurry On" 45, and I just traded away my blue > > label first LP..... > > > > somehow I feel good about these things..... > > > > also, my sources aren't as good anymore,,,, > > > > Karma. > > > > payback. > > > > blackness. > > > > self bad concious. > > > > breakdown. > > > > > > instability > > > > > > age. > > > > possible slight retardation. > > > > dog rot. > > > > wasn't tough, didn't "get going". > > > From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Jun 6 03:00:09 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 03:00:09 -0400 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: The I'm afraid we all turn round:-( (Kiss - Donington - make up - Love Gun - the flashbacks - no - no......) Stuart http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk From: ANDREW GARIBALDI Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig ah, but what if they moon back!!!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zeitgeist" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:21 AM Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig > Well, if there's no Scottish gig, lets hire a minibus and travel from > Scotland en-masse:-) > > We could all sing Summer Holiday, play travel games and moon passers by. > > Stuart From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Jun 6 03:31:21 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 03:31:21 -0400 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig Message-ID: Well I don't drive, but I'm happy to collate names, dates, locations, bottom sizes and pass to Mr Holmes for preparation of itinerary. Private e-mail to info at zeitgeist-scot.co.uk Stuart http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:50:54 +0100 From: M Holmes Subject: Re: HW: Newcastle gig Zeitgeist writes: > Well, if there's no Scottish gig, lets hire a minibus and travel from > Scotland en-masse:-) I could run a minibus from Edinburgh. I used to do that for the Glasgow gigs anyway. FoFP From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Jun 6 06:00:33 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:00:33 -0500 Subject: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: I just got a recording of CALVERTS--KID FROM SILICON GULCH. Is this rare? Anyone know how many times this was performed? STEPHE From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 6 06:26:04 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:26:04 +0100 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:42:07 +0100 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > > > >Hey, that's it - get Hawkwind to do a JA cover - ah, but which > > > > >one? > > >Nah, gotta be a blanga version of White Rabbit. > with Bridget on vocals? or Sam?? - hey, I feel a good idea coming on > here..... Bridget would be good. How about a charity single? Wasn't there an infamous Brit documentary about the homeless called "Ask Alice" way back in the mid 60's? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 6 06:31:43 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:31:43 +0100 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Tue, 5 Jun 2001 20:52:57 +0100 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > >Incidently, the Spirit of the P/Age offers this lyric for Greenfly - 'As > >their tiny jaws / munch on plan and cause' - I think a case could be made > >for 'munch on planet cores' as well. > > There are a few surprising errors on that otherwise superb site- the most > glaring one is in "Ten seconds of Forever", wherein the forests of Venus > have become 'duned', rather than 'jewelled' like they used to be in the 70s. > Maybe some space bandits stole all the jewels, leaving only sand.... Reality is even more prosaic. I saw some documentary about the Venus radar mapper probe. They found the tops of some mountains were like really really radar reflective. Looking at the temperature of 300 plus degrees centigrade (or thereabouts, physical chemists feel free to correct me) at that altitude, their best guess was that titanium(?) which had melted and evaporated into the atmosphere as a gas, was cooling at altitude and forming snowflakes which then dropped onto the mountaintops. So I guess "The silvered mountains of Venus" might work as an accurate description. FoFP From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jun 6 06:32:52 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:32:52 -0000 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: lemmys problem is he can play a bass ,do ray me has the best brainstorm,but then it is one to beat the 1999 party .epoch a to good though,ambiant anarchists sonick attack sounds better than the original,sometimes!.masters of the universe must have been 2000s party blue cover back of head picture one,though the modern one has about 20 tracks on >From: david hall >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy >Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 01:03:41 +0100 > >I remember at Hawkon that the various band members were a tad pissed off >about Alan Davey joining - not with regard to Alan himself or his ability - >but that Dave "forgot" to consult them!! > >Dave >-----Original Message----- >From: Moonglum >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Date: 24 May 2001 19:53 >Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > >Dear Elric > > > >1. What about Brainstorm on Live 79...he starts off OK but... > >2. Your commas etc are all perfectly formed! > > > >Love, > > > >Moonglum > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Mich at el B > >To: > >Sent: 24 May 2001 04:28 > >Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > > > >> I've never heard any bad bass playing from the man > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: Ian Abrahams > >> > To: > >> > Sent: 23 May 2001 18:57 > >> > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > >> > > >> > > > >> > > I think Harvey always struggled a bit with the HW Bass >parts...didn't > >> Huw > >> > > have to play some bass on Choose Your Masques because of this? > >> > > > >> > > Ian > >> > > > >> > > >> > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 6 06:45:52 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:45:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Newcastle gig In-Reply-To: Zeitgeist's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2001 03:31:21 -0400 Message-ID: Zeitgeist writes: > I could run a minibus from Edinburgh. I used to do that for the Glasgow > gigs anyway. > Well I don't drive, but I'm happy to collate names, dates, locations, > bottom sizes and pass to Mr Holmes for preparation of itinerary. OK, feel free. Minibuses take between 12 and 16 folks. You generally have to hire 'em with a driver (and we'll all want to drink anyway?) which bumps up the cost. Hopefully we'd be able to do Edinburgh-Newcastle and back for around 30 Pounds each but I'd really need to check since it's a while since I've done this. The big advantage (unless we got a really mean driver) would be a party on the bus on the way there and by organising a whipround for a driver's tip, they usually drop folks off individually on the way back. We've had some fine Hawkwind parties in minibuses over the years. Although one had me rather worried. 5 seats had been advertised by flysheeting the Hawkwind bins in record shops here. We got a crew from Penicuik. They turned up at the bus with a kit for making a bong 3 feet high with a load of tubes coming out of it and as far as I could tell, they'd borrowed half the stash of the Furry Freak Brothers. The rest of us were all pretty tolerant and the driver either didn't notice the smell, or affected not to. By halfway to Glasgow the bus must have looked like something out of Cheech and Chong with smoke pouring out of it. There were serious worries about how much the driver would take in secondhand. The rest of us were definitely experiencing seconhand effects. Then it turned out that due to a Euro leaders meeting in Edinburgh (the entourage of which had held us up crossing Edinburgh) the cops had roadblocks and were checking vehicles coming into Edinburgh late at night. I was beginning to see headlines by the time we were past this. A fine time was had by all (and the driver got a pretty good tip to divert to Penicuik on his way home) and that motorway bridge that they light up in different colours has never looked quite so pretty since. FoFP From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jun 6 06:47:27 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:47:27 -0000 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question Message-ID: you should examine all of the variations of master of the universe ,was it diferant band members attitude or differant times ,or the seer not being so fucked up every where he goes or got his head together and saw who the real fuckers are ,ie,sector 63,hawkwind are humanitys last hope. a mangy cur not a red kirk >From: M Holmes >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: RE: calvert question >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:31:43 +0100 > >Nick Medford writes: > > > >Incidently, the Spirit of the P/Age offers this lyric for Greenfly - >'As > > >their tiny jaws / munch on plan and cause' - I think a case could be >made > > >for 'munch on planet cores' as well. > > > > There are a few surprising errors on that otherwise superb site- the >most > > glaring one is in "Ten seconds of Forever", wherein the forests of Venus > > have become 'duned', rather than 'jewelled' like they used to be in the >70s. > > Maybe some space bandits stole all the jewels, leaving only sand.... > >Reality is even more prosaic. I saw some documentary about the Venus >radar mapper probe. They found the tops of some mountains were like >really really radar reflective. Looking at the temperature of 300 plus >degrees centigrade (or thereabouts, physical chemists feel free to >correct me) at that altitude, their best guess was that titanium(?) >which had melted and evaporated into the atmosphere as a gas, was >cooling at altitude and forming snowflakes which then dropped onto the >mountaintops. So I guess "The silvered mountains of Venus" might work >as an accurate description. > >FoFP _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jun 6 07:12:44 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:12:44 EDT Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: <200106061026.LAA18554@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 6 Jun 2001, at 11:26, M Holmes wrote: > Bridget would be good. How about a charity single? Wasn't there an > infamous Brit documentary about the homeless called "Ask Alice" way > back in the mid 60's? > Wasn't there a 'youth culture' exploitation flick entitled 'Go Ask Alice' back in the 60s? theo From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jun 6 07:21:55 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:21:55 -0400 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: I thought it was "Kathy Come Home", or maybe that was a different one! COLIN From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 6 07:26:45 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:26:45 +0100 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" In-Reply-To: Colin Allen's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:21:55 -0400 Message-ID: Colin Allen writes: > I thought it was "Kathy Come Home", or maybe that was a different one! Nah, you could be right. I was quite young then. FoFP From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Wed Jun 6 07:28:44 2001 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:28:44 +0100 Subject: BOC: The inerview if you missed it. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Mike wrote: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Comment from Blue Oyster Cult: Go to the blueoystercult.com site to check > out our tour schedule. We start a worldwide tour in May that will go on > throughout the year and will include Europe. Whee! I just checked through that tour database at blueoystercult.com and I was puzzled to find that there were no Bristol dates listed for 1978 or 1979. I definitely saw the maxi-laser show in Bristol during that period. Does anyone else remember that date? Awesome scented smoke clouds with laser tunnels into nowhere cutting through them. I almost thought that I saw BOC on the stage at one point, too :) - Mike Godwin From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Jun 6 08:38:25 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:38:25 -0400 Subject: BOC: I got it-- a tentative review/overview Message-ID: A few comments... > > The packaging is cool. I was in the minority of fans that actually liked the cover of Heaven Forbid, but this is definitely way better... > The production is miles better as a whole because its consistent., HF was > not. Yes - the recording for HF was done over a period of many years. Also, the band that performed the songs also wrote them - HF had stuff performed by Chuck Burgi and Jon Rogers, who weren't in the band when it was released. > Buck is good. He's better than that! > Eric's voice I almsot didnt recognize on Showtime. At the beginning of the song, I would agree. However he is definitely most recognizeable on the rest of the songs he sings. He sounds particularly good on "One Step Ahead Of The Devil", although I'll be it would have been even better if he could have recorded vocals for that track about 15 years ago. > Do not pay attention to the lyrics to closely. some are rather BAD. > -- "exactly" is not a good word to put in a song about old gods returning. > emphasizing it doesnt help either. I just like to be bad is not that much > better for verbiage. They work o.k. for me. We've cited examples of bad BOC lyrics before. And John Shirley is what he is as far as a lyricist goes. > > Pocket, is a rocket. Definitely my favorite track on the album at this point. Sweet guitar, lots of movement in the bass, and a nice up-tempo feel-good singing from Buck -- very fresh-sounding. Crank this one up loud in the car with the windows down! > Dance on stilts, here comes that feeling are pure well honed Buckpop HCTF is SWEET! And Dance on Stilts has a nice edge to it that shows "Buckpop" has come a long way since *Flat Out*. > Out of the darkness -- moody Bloom (hehe) "Moody Bloom" is sounding pretty good -- you seem to be a bit overly critical of the guy in this review. > Stone of Love - very Meltzery words. and crisp riff The original demo (can be heard on the Buck Dharma Archive CDs) didn't impress me so much, but this version is excellent. > Eye of the Hurricane - power chord o rama. but with lots of lil riff > changing. > "theres an eye in my hurricane" - a lyric. (sigh) "She got less than you or I - She got less than me..." Another example of a cool song with less-than-stellar lyrics. Stop sighing and crank it up! > Good to feel hungry - sounds almost like they used to be with jazzy sound. > "good to be angry when youre ready to yell." An interesting, rather un-BOC-like song for sure. But cool. > > The band has benefited from playing together as much as they have live. They > sound like a functioning unit. and Bobby R's drumming is gathering some > courage to syncopate. Several of the songs definitely have a "live" feel to them. John PS: "One Step Of The Devil" has a really cool riff - sounds a bit like Motley Crue to me (or, rather, BOC showing Motley Crue how it's done) From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jun 6 08:48:43 2001 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:48:43 -0000 Subject: Jule's pub Bangkok Message-ID: Hello cadets,there's a bar in Bangkok run by a guy called Kim Fletcher and this guy and his mate 'Big Dave' are big Hawkwind fans.It's an ex-pat bar well worth a visit if you're in Thailand,and Kim loves chatting about and showing folk's his collectoin of 'gumph'(not a derogatary? term!).Does anyone know of any other places around the planet where you can 'Bump into'Hawkwind Fanatics?I'd be very interested to hear about them!The world IS getting smaller! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 6 08:57:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:27:01 +0930 Subject: off - lend a hand - off Message-ID: Can someone out there recomend some good software for editing music copied from vinyl? thanks michael b From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Jun 6 10:16:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Haskell Rascal) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:16:57 -0600 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >lemmys problem is he can play a bass ,do ray me has the best brainstorm,but >then it is one to beat the 1999 party .epoch a to good though,ambiant >anarchists sonick attack sounds better than the original,sometimes!.masters >of the universe must have been 2000s party blue cover back of head picture >one,though the modern one has about 20 tracks on agreed 2000's one cant see silhouette wel side of box difecult. Back of head nice egg boil. Stil, sword manonkliff dizzy on yell ohh cardbored. fish typee babel endall not him their. From mlooney20 at HOME.COM Wed Jun 6 11:20:05 2001 From: mlooney20 at HOME.COM (Mike Looney) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:20:05 -0700 Subject: BOC: The inerview if you missed it. Message-ID: > By > the way, my girlfriend says she might leave me if she doesn't hear you guys > play Astronomy this Friday....if you could help a fella out I would > appreciate it!!!! > > Blue Oyster Cult: Hahaha! > > I'll try to remember to play Astronomy. Ghod I hope they do. I'm going to be at that show. Astronomy is one of my favorite songs of theirs. Speaking of which any other list members going to be at that show? From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Wed Jun 6 09:30:17 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:30:17 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM Message-ID: >I was in the minority of fans that actually liked the cover of Heaven >Forbid, but this is definitely way better... Its also nice that they had put in memoriam to some fans who have passed. Speaking of that, (sort of), does anyone know the easiest way to order the Helen Wheels Tribute album (it was released yesterday (or today), right?. My computer here at work only has intranet access so I cant pop onto cellsum.com. >most recognizable on the rest of the songs he sings. He sounds >particularly good on "One Step Ahead Of The Devil", although I'll be it >would have been even better if he could have recorded vocals for that >track about 15 years ago. Such a feat would only be possible in a world run by Douglas Adams (grin), where rock stars can be dead for a year for tax reasons. Showtime has a nice groove. >They work o.k. for me. We've cited examples of bad BOC lyrics before. >And John Shirley is what he is as far as a lyricist goes. yeah, you're right.Maybe that was part of the reason the words were not included in the booklet this time 'round. >> Dance on stilts, here comes that feeling are pure well honed Buckpop >HCTF is SWEET! And Dance on Stilts has a nice edge to it that shows >"Buckpop" has come a long way since *Flat Out*. Yes indeed. It shows he works much better in a band, people to play off of/with. If anything, I think Buck's definitely got his creative juices flowing again after years of touring forever, in the shadow of "best of" CDs and the split with Columbia (+ the hugeness of Imaginos). Dance on Stilts has a far better deployment of "elevation" than the U2 song, which almost sounds like it rocks but ... they just cant quite make that committment. Speaking of Buck's guitar work -- Is it just me or does this album sound more like he's mixing up his soloing style, compared to Cult Classic and HF? > Out of the darkness -- moody Bloom (hehe) > >"Moody Bloom" is sounding pretty good -- you seem to be a bit overly >critical of the guy in this review. Hehe... well, that's probably true. But I will give points to the guy for trying to extend his repertoire of sounds after all this time. It reminds me of a Harley version of I love the Night. If they ever do this song live, they should back it with Donovans monkey, saying "here's another song about family values". hehe -- speaking of which, good question on the interview John. back to OotD, What does he say... "I am the dimfold"? I cant quite get what he says. >> Eye of the Hurricane - power chord o rama. but with lots of lil riff >> changing. >> "theres an eye in my hurricane" - a lyric. (sigh) >"She got less than you or I - She got less than me..." Funny thing about Teen Archer, is that I think I read somewhere that Richard actually like the words to this song. shows ya how odd this world is. >Another example of a cool song with less-than-stellar lyrics. Stop >sighing and crank it up! eh? cant hear ya! I've got a Buck Dharma solo in my ear! >> Good to feel hungry - sounds almost like they used to be >with jazzy sound. > >An interesting, rather un-BOC-like song for sure. But cool. I wouldn't have expected it to close the album. >Several of the songs definitely have a "live" feel to them. They have more of a groove now, like a '01 resurrection of the slippery/swaggering feel they had in the early days, but modified according to the differences in personnel. I wish the Hammond organ was mixed higher, because Allen's a great Kybd. player. Just dig his work from SFG. he provides a cool bed of swerve (?) over which the band do things. Also interesting is the slow, but returning use of background vocals that aren't just Buck overdubs to the material on this album. Its hep! >PS: "One Step Of The Devil" has a really cool riff - sounds a bit like >Motley Crue to me (or, rather, BOC showing Motley Crue how it's done) I'll have to go back and check it out, right now BOC is competing with the Cults new album. For what it's worth, They really wanted to rock without all the "guitar overdubs for guitar pyrotechnic's sake" that marked Sonic Temple etc. And, its loud. What's quite promising is the fact it did not take so long to put out this album -- HF hasn't been out all that long. It'll be very cool if BOC does come through with a live DVD next year. Hopefully CotHM will sell enough to spur said process on. Only downside to that is having to buy a dvd player :) (aren't we all hankerin' for another version of Reaper after all? hehehe) one step ahead of evil, but my shoe's untied. What is the riff after the chorus and before the guitar solo 2:39 into the song in "one step ahead of the Devil" from? I swear I've heard it before! Jason PS: The beginning riff and the closing riff in "I cant keep from crying sometimes" by the Blues Project (on the album Projections) is the start/end (even has the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 counting Albert does in the Surgeon's version) of "Baby Ice Dog" -- makes sense, since Buck and Albert were a cover band for those cats. diggin' the groove From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Jun 6 09:49:48 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:49:48 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM Message-ID: Short review: I like it, and I like it more every time I listen to it. Thoughts: My biggest impression is that the band has succeeded where they had failed with Club Ninja. Release CotHM in 1986 and the boys would have had two more Top 40 hits (Pocket and Here Comes That Feeling) and there wouldn't have been a 10 year recording hiatus. Buck could teach Aerosmith a thing or two about power ballads. ;-) They really do sound like a complete band, with Bobby and Danny adding a lot to every tune. Dance on Stilts: I had the impression that this song was going to be heavier, so its pop rock tendencies surprised me. I think that's why it took a little while for me to get used to the "elevate me" harmonies.... This is the tune that's come the furthest for me on repeated listens. Showtime: Yeah BOC! Let's hear that groove! Subject wise, this is a close cousin to Power Underneath Despair but the music is just so much cooler. You know, Eric's voice sounds a little like it does on the SFG album, more high-pitched and thin. And he shows a lot more range on this album than on HF--I had flashbacks to VotPW and Divine Wind. Old Gods Return: This is the kind of imagery that drew me to BOC in the first place, and which is somewhat lacking on this album. The "exactly" bit doesn't bother me too much, although that whole section would sound better done as a madman's rant, somewhere between Eric in Godzilla and Iggy Pop in The Cult's "New York City" on their Sonic Temple album. In the video, Eric could be wearing one of those full body "The end is near" signs. ;-) Buck's solo is f-ing amazing, as well as the little twiddley he snakes around the power chords. Brilliant. Pocket: Can I be the first to praise some lyrics on this album? These lyrics are pretty good! And the music is even better--Is that Allen on the 1st guitar solo? I can see why this is doing well on the radio. I can also see why my particular classic rock station might not be playing it. It's a little too pop for a station that fixates on Led Zeppelin and AC/DC. One Step Ahead of the Devil: Great Gods of riff! My head threatened to bang. But then I would have hit it on the steering wheel as I drove from the record store. ;-) This would be a great tune if the chorus was different. I think its that particular harmony more so than the lyrics, which are OK. Eric sounds particularly cool on this tune (chorus excepted). I Just Like to Be Bad: Didn't like this one at first. I need to give it more listens and see if it grows on me at all. Here Comes That Feeling: Why was this song never released before? It's incredible! It would also fit nicely on a "Totally '80s" or "Monster Ballads" compilation. ;-) HCTF is definitely a song from a specific place and time. Buck in his element.... Out of the Darkness: This is BOC? I mean, I like it, but it's not what I expected. To clarify: Showtime was unexpected in a good way, OOtD was unexpected in a head scratching way. Still, for what it is I enjoy it. I just don't crank it so the neighbors can hear.... Stone of Love: There isn't anything that really sticks out for me except the interesting lyrics. I enjoy it, but not as much as HCTF. Eye of the Hurricane: Another tune I thought would be heavier. It's an OK song, the keyboards give it a hint of the FoUO sound. The lyrics get in the way for the most part, but I think that it's partly due to the way Eric delivers them--Like he's cramming them into the song structure haphazardly (aka Elvis Costello disease. ;-) Good to Feel Hungry: I really like the jazzy style of this one. I haven't had a really intense listen to the song, so I can't remember if the lyrics worked or not. It was nice to hear Danny get a little space to do his thing. Overall, this is a really solid album and should ensure we'll see more albums through CMC in the future. I'll always like the "old" BOC more than the "new" one, but CotHM is a great representation of the band as it is today. Now I just need to go check the new tour dates on the official site.... Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Un-cursed. Well rehearsed. http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Jun 6 10:08:43 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:08:43 +0800 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: > agreed 2000's one cant see silhouette wel side of box difecult. Back of > head nice egg boil. Stil, sword manonkliff dizzy on yell ohh cardbored. > fish typee babel endall not him their. > hehehe hahaha LMAO From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Jun 6 11:07:20 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:07:20 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM on Amazon.com Message-ID: CotHM is #110 on the Amazon.com sales rankings! The site's "Top Sellers" link lists the top 100. It would be pretty amazing to see BOC on that list. I don't know where HF topped out, but I don't think it was anywhere near #110.... Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jun 6 09:52:18 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:52:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: Chef Geoff (Allentown) fest Message-ID: Hey there... A note from Paul Williams that I saw on r.m.p., important for those planning to attend. I just saw Babylonian Tiles for the second time here in Columbus, and they were really hot. They're a 'space-prog-goth' trio from California and are very technically sound. Keyboardist/lead vocalist Brynna Golden has quite an odd voice (not surprising given that she's wheelchairbound and oh, perhaps 75 pounds - that's 5 1/2 stone), but you get used to it in due time and it actually works well within the music. They would be a good fit for these other bands, better than the space-doom of Nucleon, who if you've been to a Strange Daze or two, you've seen already. Enjoy... Grakkl (FAA) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Quarkspace with ArtTek (a tangerine dream influenced group) with The Solar Fire Lightshow providing the visuals. also the most excellent psych band Babylonian Tiles, MAY play this show as well, filling for Nucleon who unfortunately had to cancel. The festivities will be held Sat. June 9th at Planet Trog 3578 MacArthur Blvd. (RT 145, methinks) Whitehall PA 18052 The music starts at 8. I am pretty sure the ticket prices are $10, but don't hold me to that. Also, a fresh reminder that Spacefolds 7 has been released by Quarkspace. The latest opinions from quite a few feel it to be our best yet. I agree that it is our most symphonic... trippy, symphonic improv. One of the days soon, mp3.com will make available the two SF7 samples I uploaded 3 weeks ago. There should also be some samples up on amazon.com within the next couple of daze. Thanks for the bandwidth, PW From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Jun 6 11:29:03 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:29:03 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM on Amazon.com Message-ID: You are all welcome.. I know that it was MY PREORDER that got it to 110 from 111!!! LOL Mike Brian Halligan wrote: > > CotHM is #110 on the Amazon.com sales rankings! The site's "Top Sellers" > link lists the top 100. It would be pretty amazing to see BOC on that list. > I don't know where HF topped out, but I don't think it was anywhere near > #110.... > > Brian > > -- > Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower > MP3 Radio > Updated Semi-Occasionally > http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jun 6 11:45:23 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:45:23 EDT Subject: BOC: CotHM on Amazon.com In-Reply-To: <3B1E4C3F.43860F10@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: On 6 Jun 2001, at 11:29, Mike Habiby wrote: > You are all welcome.. > > I know that it was MY PREORDER that got it to 110 from 111!!! > > LOL > So, where's your review? Got my copy last night, but I won't be able to hear it 'til after work today. And I got a new Marshall yesterday, so my attention is a little split at present... theo From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Jun 6 12:16:20 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:16:20 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM on Amazon.com Message-ID: Amazon's email told me it wouldn't arrive till tomorrow at the earliest. I did the preorder so I wouldn't space the release date but now I wish I had just gone to the bloody store and gotten it. Mike +++++++++++++++++++++ Ted Jackson wrote: > > On 6 Jun 2001, at 11:29, Mike Habiby wrote: > > > You are all welcome.. > > > > I know that it was MY PREORDER that got it to 110 from 111!!! > > > > LOL > > > So, where's your review? Got my copy last night, but I won't be > able to hear it 'til after work today. And I got a new Marshall > yesterday, so my attention is a little split at present... > > theo From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Jun 6 13:51:31 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (MSH) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:51:31 -0400 Subject: HW: Spiral Galaxy Message-ID: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 6 14:07:25 2001 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:07:25 +0100 Subject: HW:Bedouin/AoS gigs Message-ID: Here are some Bedouin gigs that have been confirmed. Expect more to be added later. June 15th The Break, Bury St Edmonds. 01284 766444. Ace of Spades July 20th Axe and Cleaver, 16, West Street, Boston.01205 367300. Bedouin August 3rd The Gander, 2, Holdenhurst Road, Bournemouth. 01202 290294. Bedouin Sept 8th The Mars Bar, 12 Pierpoint Street, Worcester 01905 613336. Bedouin 28th Esquires Club, Greyfriars Road, Bedford. 01234 217171. Bedouin October 5th Uplands Tavern, 42,Uplands Cres., Swansea.01792 458242. Bedouin Neil From soltanic at YAHOO.COM Wed Jun 6 14:58:03 2001 From: soltanic at YAHOO.COM (Allen Shaw) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:58:03 -0700 Subject: SILICON GULCH In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A07A@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: 3 times I think --- Stephen Lindas wrote: > I just got a recording of CALVERTS--KID FROM SILICON > GULCH. Is this rare? > Anyone know how many times this was performed? STEPHE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Wed Jun 6 15:35:48 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:35:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Circle, Pharaoh Overlord, Paul Chain Message-ID: Well, I've only had a chance to listen to them thru once - its going to take a lot more listens to properly digest these, but here's some comments: >>Circle - Taantumus > >Oh, so the 'new one' Richard was talking about is really the new one that >Jussi had sent me before (seeing that Taantumus is Track 9 on what I have). >How do you like that "Lyhytaallosta" track...awesome, eh? > On the release I have here Taantumus is Track 11 (of 12), so there must have been some rearranging or additions in the meantime. The title track is beautiful, laid-back and melancholy (or at least laid-back for Circle). Lyhytaallosta by contrast is thoroughly freaky! I love that huge fuzzy bass in there. And the following track Ranta is over the top, 30 seconds of yelling over a wall of noise. I think the high points on this album (and there are a lot) are the equal of the best of Circle's previous output (and that's saying a lot), but first impression is that the album as a whole misses being a masterpiece on the order of Zopalki, Pori, or Prospekt: those 3 were more cohesive collections of music. This is still some pretty fantastic stuff. >Who has released this one? Metamorphos is gone, so I guess Ektro (Jussi's >label). Is it/will it be on tUMULt here in the US as well? I guess I will >have to find out. > Taantumus is on Bad Vugum, but I think andee of tUMULt has said that he will be releasing it in the US. >>Pharaoh Overlord - #1 >> This one is on Ektro,and it is outstanding. The drums have a lighter feel than Circle, but they take a page from that band, sounding completely rock-steady while at the same time continually changing in proper Circle fashion. Unlike Circle though, where the percussion tends to drive the song forward, here it's the guitars that pull the pieces along while the drums seem more static, acting as an anchor for the fantastic guitar fest riding on top of them. Reviews I've seen compare the guitars to Ash Ra Tempel and I agree, there is that feel to them, or like a more structured and melodic SubArachnoid Space. I think this album does attain the heights of the Circle trinity I mentioned above, although by a somewhat different, and maybe a simpler, path. I think this is more accessible than Circle as well, and this is one of those rare cases where that is not a bad thing. Did I mention I think this is outstanding? > > Wonder why Frustram Quartet didn't make it on that one. > If we're lucky, maybe we'll get a whole CD's worth some time in the future. Paul Chain - Signs from Space Richard was plugging this earlier, and he is right: these guys really do have the spirit, if not quite the chops, of '72 Hawkwind. Note, I am not a critic or musician, so take all that I say with a grain of salt - hopefully we will get more qualified people giving their reviews of these titles. Stephan From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Wed Jun 6 15:35:47 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:35:47 -0400 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question Message-ID: >>Incidently, the Spirit of the P/Age offers this lyric for Greenfly - 'As >>their tiny jaws / munch on plan and cause' - I think a case could be made >>for 'munch on planet cores' as well. And on Lord of the Hornets, I believe the line should be 'Laying antennae-ed troops armed with stings in a paper mine' ^^^^^^^^^^ > >There are a few surprising errors on that otherwise superb site- > Superb is right, this is one of the best web-sites I have ever come across in terms of design/presentation/use of hyperlinks/etc, let alone the content. I'm sure everyone on the list already has this URL but here it is anyway > the most >glaring one is in "Ten seconds of Forever", wherein the forests of Venus >have become 'duned', rather than 'jewelled' like they used to be in the 70s. >Maybe some space bandits stole all the jewels, leaving only sand.... Venus must be the home of the protagonists of Fable of a Failed Race, where 'this land / That once was green (and) is now all sand'! Stephan From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Jun 6 16:07:39 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:07:39 +0100 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20010606193547.006e6898@pop.pipeline.com> Message-ID: In article <1.5.4.32.20010606193547.006e6898 at pop.pipeline.com>, Stephan Forstner writes >>>Incidently, the Spirit of the P/Age offers this lyric for Greenfly - 'As >>>their tiny jaws / munch on plan and cause' - I think a case could be made >>>for 'munch on planet cores' as well. > >And on Lord of the Hornets, I believe the line should be >'Laying antennae-ed troops armed with stings in a paper mine' > ^^^^^^^^^^ >> >>There are a few surprising errors on that otherwise superb site- >> >Superb is right, this is one of the best web-sites I have ever come across >in terms of design/presentation/use of hyperlinks/etc, let alone the >content. I'm sure everyone on the list already has this URL but here it is >anyway > >> the most >>glaring one is in "Ten seconds of Forever", wherein the forests of Venus >>have become 'duned', rather than 'jewelled' like they used to be in the 70s. >>Maybe some space bandits stole all the jewels, leaving only sand.... > >Venus must be the home of the protagonists of Fable of a Failed Race, where >'this land / That once was green (and) is now all sand'! That's Earth in the future (Based on Brian Aldiss' 'The Failed Men') -- David Blair From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jun 6 15:22:10 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:22:10 -0400 Subject: OFF: Circle, Pharaoh Overlord, Paul Chain Message-ID: Stephan said... >Well, I've only had a chance to listen to them thru once - its going to take >a lot more listens to properly digest these, but here's some comments: > >>>Circle - Taantumus >> >>Oh, so the 'new one' Richard was talking about is really the new one that >>Jussi had sent me before (seeing that Taantumus is Track 9 on what I have). >>How do you like that "Lyhytaallosta" track...awesome, eh? >> >On the release I have here Taantumus is Track 11 (of 12), so there must have >been some rearranging or additions in the meantime. Yeah, there are also 12 tracks on what I have (Lyhy... is #6, Ranta #8), so obviously they've been reordered for some reason. But the album is certainly the same. >but first impression is that the album as a whole >misses being a masterpiece on the order of Zopalki, Pori, or Prospekt: those >3 were more cohesive collections of music. This is still some pretty >fantastic stuff. Yeah, Pori is great, and a good one to start for the uninitiated. "Kartano" is a can't miss for Hawkwind fans. (And the first half of Andexelt is also great.) Zopalki is interesting to this of as 'cohesive,' 'cause I've never heard more contrast from one track to the next as I have between tracks 1 and 2 on that album! Of course, it's the best part! I just wish the version of Valerian on Zopalki was as transcedent as the live version on the split CD with Marble Sheep (who put that on their boc-l tape trade CDR? Awesome choice! Thanks to Arin for sending those along...I'll try to return the favor.) Oh, by the way, I just saw on the SubArachnoid site that they and Circle are also doing a split CD together soon. My guess is that it'll be a joint Charnel/Ektro release. Cool. Oh yeah, the new Mother West 2xCD compilation is just coming out, and it's got all sorts of Circle-related music on it (as well as lots of other great bands). That's another great way to find out about these guys quickly and easily. Haven't heard any of it yet, but can't imagine it being anything other than spectacular. >Paul Chain - Signs from Space >Richard was plugging this earlier, and he is right: these guys really do >have the spirit, if not quite the chops, of '72 Hawkwind. I remember seeing this name awhile back...what label is it on? Grakkl (FAA) From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Wed Jun 6 17:09:11 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:09:11 -0400 Subject: OFF: Chef Geoff (Allentown) fest Message-ID: The info I saw has it running from 8pm - 2am. Tickets at $12 ($15 at the door). I wanted to go mainly to see Quarkspace and I talked a few friends into going for the light show. Just wish I knew what the playing order was - I'm getting too old to make it thru all 6 hours without help:) I'll wear my BOC-L shirt tho. From: "K Henderson" > Hey there... > > A note from Paul Williams that I saw on r.m.p., important for those planning > to attend. I just saw Babylonian Tiles for the second time here in > Columbus, and they were really hot. They're a 'space-prog-goth' trio from > California and are very technically sound. Keyboardist/lead vocalist Brynna > Golden has quite an odd voice (not surprising given that she's > wheelchairbound and oh, perhaps 75 pounds - that's 5 1/2 stone), but you get > used to it in due time and it actually works well within the music. They > would be a good fit for these other bands, better than the space-doom of > Nucleon, who if you've been to a Strange Daze or two, you've seen already. > > Enjoy... > > Grakkl (FAA) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Quarkspace > with ArtTek (a tangerine dream influenced group) > > with The Solar Fire Lightshow providing the visuals. > > also the most excellent psych band Babylonian Tiles, MAY play this > show as well, filling for Nucleon who unfortunately had to cancel. > > The festivities will be held Sat. June 9th at > > Planet Trog > 3578 MacArthur Blvd. (RT 145, methinks) > Whitehall PA 18052 > > The music starts at 8. I am pretty sure the ticket prices are $10, > but don't hold me to that. > > Also, a fresh reminder that Spacefolds 7 has been released by > Quarkspace. The latest opinions from quite a few feel it to be our > best yet. I agree that it is our most symphonic... trippy, symphonic > improv. One of the days soon, mp3.com will make available the two > SF7 samples I uploaded 3 weeks ago. There should also be some samples > up on amazon.com within the next couple of daze. From nick at NETPHD.NET Wed Jun 6 18:27:11 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:27:11 -0400 Subject: BOC: MIRROR Message-ID: Well, I've had roughly a day to digest the new album, and it hasn't worn thin on me yet. I LOVE this disc. It's so much better than Heaven Forbid in so many ways, and I think that's probably why it blew me away so much. This is a band that's still vital and still ROCKS. If only the album could find its way past today's radio programmers and consultants and onto the airwaves, I see several songs that oughta be hits. Just this morning, I caught myself singing the chorus to Pocket while changing an especially stinky diaper. This album attached itself to me immediately, and by God, IT'S GROWING!!! The Old Gods have indeed returned. --Nick From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jun 6 19:10:20 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:10:20 -0400 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:57:56 -0400, Stephan Forstner wrote: >Are you sure about this? The Hype versions definitely sound way better, but >I think thats just the difference between a professional mastering job from >master tapes vs. copying tracks onto a CD from old scratchy vinyl. I've >spent an hour listening to these tracks back-to-back and side-by-side, and >it's not just the rhythm that's the same, the vocal tracks are the same too, >and I can't pinpoint any synth swoosh or burble that doesn't appear on both >the Connection and the Hype versions - could you point me at some of the >differences you hear? Help! What am I missing!? Hi Stephan, Upon further listening of the HC version (been too lazy to pull out the 'Hype' vinyl for a strict A/B, so you're better-informed than I anyway ... it's a great album that I *really* need to pick up on CD), I think that you're correct and I was wrong. Sorry that my first impression wound up being misleading. Seems kind of pointless to include the exact same versions on a boot, but there are far more glaring incosistencies on the "official" releases! >P.S. Any word on when we can expect the next Lexicon Devil F/i reissues? No idea yet. Brian Wensing says that he's been remastering all the old albums for those, so I hope it's soon. I haven't communicated with Dave of Lexicon Devil recently, so I don't know what he's up to ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Jun 6 19:34:07 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:34:07 -0700 Subject: CotHM on Amazon.com In-Reply-To: <3B1E5754.227144E4@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: I hate to say it, but I also pre-ordered it through Amazon, and got it Monday.... KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Mike Habiby Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:16 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: BOC: CotHM on Amazon.com Amazon's email told me it wouldn't arrive till tomorrow at the earliest. I did the preorder so I wouldn't space the release date but now I wish I had just gone to the bloody store and gotten it. Mike +++++++++++++++++++++ Ted Jackson wrote: > > On 6 Jun 2001, at 11:29, Mike Habiby wrote: > > > You are all welcome.. > > > > I know that it was MY PREORDER that got it to 110 from 111!!! > > > > LOL > > > So, where's your review? Got my copy last night, but I won't be > able to hear it 'til after work today. And I got a new Marshall > yesterday, so my attention is a little split at present... > > theo From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Jun 6 19:33:41 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:33:41 EDT Subject: OFF: Has this ever happened to you? Message-ID: In a message dated 6/5/01 9:18:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > Hi Folks... > > June 4th, 2001...a date that will live in infamy! > > Without Used Kids here in town, there's no reason to go on living! :( > If Amoeba ever goes up in flames too, that's it! I moving to Europe! :) > > Grakkl (FAA) Keith, my condolensces to you, Jerry K and Columbus-ites. I do remember the place well from my visit last summer and now I wish I hadn't been so cheap and bought something there. Chuck (finally finishing up my last review for AI! sorry for the delay...I'll make sure next time that I don't bite off more albums than I can chew) From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 6 19:40:53 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 00:40:53 +0100 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20010606193547.006e6898@pop.pipeline.com> Message-ID: In message <1.5.4.32.20010606193547.006e6898 at pop.pipeline.com>, Stephan Forstner writes >> the most >>glaring one is in "Ten seconds of Forever", wherein the forests of Venus >>have become 'duned', rather than 'jewelled' like they used to be in the 70s. >>Maybe some space bandits stole all the jewels, leaving only sand.... > >Venus must be the home of the protagonists of Fable of a Failed Race, where >'this land / That once was green (and) is now all sand'! That's the one... I _knew_ there was a salient Calvert lyric somewhere in the canon, but couldn't put my finger on it. Great minds etc. -- Nick Medford From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Wed Jun 6 21:56:26 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:56:26 -0700 Subject: off - lend a hand - off Message-ID: Michael, Probably the most commonly used software is Adobe Easy CD Creator and it is usually included with the purchase of a cd writer, unfortunately it is the minimal version which is quite limited unless you order the full - for about $100. My favorite is Digital CD Recording Studio which has all the capabilities of the full version of Adobe, is easier to use and only cost me $10 (got it from a discount software bin at the local Fry's). A little advice about recording cd's - set your read and write speed to 1 to 1, it cuts back on flutter when recording especially on cd to cd music transfers and if at all possible transfer the music to your hard drive first (HD space allowing of course) than transfer from there to your cd. I'm sure most people have IDE hard drives and IDE cd writers, for best professional results SCSI is the way to go, better error correction, faster transfers, etc. and are what is used in the recording industry. Unfortunately, SCSI cd writers, audio/video hard drives, controlers and cd roms are considerably more expensive than their IDE counterparts. SCSI cd writers are about $300, drives have come down but still around $300 or so, a SCSI controler (Adaptec) is about $200, a SCSI cd rom is about $100 ( I recommend Toshiba cd roms and cd writers, they have the best specifications in the industry).Also - PC sound cards. The benchmark of PC professional sound cards has been the high end Turtle Beach series at around $500+ but there are now some that are their rivals, the top end Yamaha is rated highly and the Layla has gained an incredible following among musicians, its 32 track virtual mixer and especially its analog simulated sound is supossedly the best of all, a good friend of mine is a lady drummer who also works at a major music store chain introduced me to it and it will be my next audio card - and is only $300 (it still hurts!). I myself still have a ways to go - have the SCSI audio/video drives and controller and a decent sound card - Diamond Monster 3 but the remainder of my equipment is IDE. A small consolation for all you out there is that the mass produced better sound cards, Yamaha, Creative Labs, etc are better than the professional sound cards of just 5 years ago. Hope it helps - Steve The Moonman ---- Original Message ----- From: Mich at el B To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:57 AM Subject: off - lend a hand - off Can someone out there recomend some good software for editing music copied from vinyl? thanks michael b From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 6 22:18:06 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:48:06 +0930 Subject: CotHM on Amazon.com Message-ID: pardon my toopid twestion but what is CotHM When Im told I know I'll feel dunmb but - what the hey ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Sommers To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:04 AM Subject: Re: CotHM on Amazon.com > I hate to say it, but I also pre-ordered it through Amazon, and got it > Monday.... > > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Mike Habiby > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:16 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: BOC: CotHM on Amazon.com > > > Amazon's email told me it wouldn't arrive till tomorrow at the earliest. > > I did the preorder so I wouldn't space the release date but now I wish I > had just gone to the bloody store and gotten it. > > Mike > > +++++++++++++++++++++ > > Ted Jackson wrote: > > > > On 6 Jun 2001, at 11:29, Mike Habiby wrote: > > > > > You are all welcome.. > > > > > > I know that it was MY PREORDER that got it to 110 from 111!!! > > > > > > LOL > > > > > So, where's your review? Got my copy last night, but I won't be > > able to hear it 'til after work today. And I got a new Marshall > > yesterday, so my attention is a little split at present... > > > > theo > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 6 22:21:00 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:51:00 +0930 Subject: off - lend a hand - off Message-ID: Hi Steve and thanks for the excellent list of info! Yes I use SCSSI and love it my quaint little studio and me Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Moody To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:26 AM Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > Michael, > Probably the most commonly used software is Adobe Easy CD Creator and it is > usually included with the purchase of a cd writer, unfortunately it is the > minimal version which is quite limited unless you order the full - for about > $100. My favorite is Digital CD Recording Studio which has all the > capabilities of the full version of Adobe, is easier to use and only cost me > $10 (got it from a discount software bin at the local Fry's). A little > advice about recording cd's - set your read and write speed to 1 to 1, it > cuts back on flutter when recording especially on cd to cd music transfers > and if at all possible transfer the music to your hard drive first (HD space > allowing of course) than transfer from there to your cd. I'm sure most > people have IDE hard drives and IDE cd writers, for best professional > results SCSI is the way to go, better error correction, faster transfers, > etc. and are what is used in the recording industry. Unfortunately, SCSI cd > writers, audio/video hard drives, controlers and cd roms are considerably > more expensive than their IDE counterparts. SCSI cd writers are about $300, > drives have come down but still around $300 or so, a SCSI controler > (Adaptec) is about $200, a SCSI cd rom is about $100 ( I recommend Toshiba > cd roms and cd writers, they have the best specifications in the > industry).Also - PC sound cards. The benchmark of PC professional sound > cards has been the high end Turtle Beach series at around $500+ but there > are now some that are their rivals, the top end Yamaha is rated highly and > the Layla has gained an incredible following among musicians, its 32 track > virtual mixer and especially its analog simulated sound is supossedly the > best of all, a good friend of mine is a lady drummer who also works at a > major music store chain introduced me to it and it will be my next audio > card - and is only $300 (it still hurts!). I myself still have a ways to > go - have the SCSI audio/video drives and controller and a decent sound > card - Diamond Monster 3 but the remainder of my equipment is IDE. A small > consolation for all you out there is that the mass produced better sound > cards, Yamaha, Creative Labs, etc are better than the professional sound > cards of just 5 years ago. Hope it helps - Steve The Moonman > ---- Original Message ----- > From: Mich at el B > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:57 AM > Subject: off - lend a hand - off > > > Can someone out there recomend some good software for editing music copied > from vinyl? > > thanks > michael b From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Jun 6 22:48:18 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:48:18 -0400 Subject: CotHM on Amazon.com In-Reply-To: <009d01c0eef8$176ea080$a3cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: At 11:48 6.7.01 +0930, you wrote: >pardon my toopid twestion > >but what is CotHM Curse of the Hidden Mirror, the new album by Blue Oyster Cult on CMC Records. From chrisr at TIAC.NET Wed Jun 6 22:38:31 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:38:31 -0400 Subject: CotHM on Amazon.com Message-ID: Curse of the Hidden Mirror - Blue Oyster Cults new album that was just released. Chris NP Paul Kossoff - Back Street Crawler "Mich at el B" wrote: > > pardon my toopid twestion > > but what is CotHM > > When Im told I know I'll feel dunmb > > but - what the hey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kevin Sommers > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:04 AM > Subject: Re: CotHM on Amazon.com > > > I hate to say it, but I also pre-ordered it through Amazon, and got it > > Monday.... > > > > KevinSommers > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Mike Habiby > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:16 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: BOC: CotHM on Amazon.com > > > > > > Amazon's email told me it wouldn't arrive till tomorrow at the earliest. > > > > I did the preorder so I wouldn't space the release date but now I wish I > > had just gone to the bloody store and gotten it. > > > > Mike > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Ted Jackson wrote: > > > > > > On 6 Jun 2001, at 11:29, Mike Habiby wrote: > > > > > > > You are all welcome.. > > > > > > > > I know that it was MY PREORDER that got it to 110 from 111!!! > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > > So, where's your review? Got my copy last night, but I won't be > > > able to hear it 'til after work today. And I got a new Marshall > > > yesterday, so my attention is a little split at present... > > > > > > theo > > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Jun 6 23:45:52 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Haskell Rascal) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:45:52 -0600 Subject: CotHM on Amazon.com In-Reply-To: <009d01c0eef8$176ea080$a3cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: pardon my toopid twestion "but what is CotHM" we must be stunted together Mikey, as Mikewind confuses here.... I was bending my mind trying to make "Night Of The Hawk" DVD fit, but I just couldn't.....so I say....the abbreviations get "too cutesy" for myself,,,,,but who cares...so long as the good people are enjoying their "total" "HW experience", this is whats most important, and if it gives them a sense of enjoyment to abbreviate in a manner of "familiarity" then this outweighs the usual moments of confusion (i) undergo trying to make sense of it....... guess we'll know soon. m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Jun 7 01:03:04 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 23:03:04 -0600 Subject: CotHM on Amazon.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh yeah..sorry....the list *IS* a BOC dedicated one...and if any could be in abbreviations, ought to be them I guess!!! Why O Why did the lasers have to get shipped elsewhere, when my anxious little 14 year old mind was SO EXCITED.......(on DEC.7 1979,AT DALLAS CONVENTION CENTER) WAS IT THE FAULT OF THE CITY ORDINANCE??? things could have been different..... ******************************************************************************** pardon my toopid twestion "but what is CotHM" we must be stunted together Mikey, as Mikewind confuses here.... I was bending my mind trying to make "Night Of The Hawk" DVD fit, but I just couldn't.....so I say....the abbreviations get "too cutesy" for myself,,,,,but who cares...so long as the good people are enjoying their "total" "HW experience", this is whats most important, and if it gives them a sense of enjoyment to abbreviate in a manner of "familiarity" then this outweighs the usual moments of confusion (i) undergo trying to make sense of it....... guess we'll know soon. m From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Jun 7 00:16:16 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:16:16 -0700 Subject: off - lend a hand - off Message-ID: Michael, a little extra info- The Digital Cd Recording Studio software I use has excellent adjustable scratch reduction for lp transfers, the ability to add delay, adjust pitch, reverb, gain, amplitude etc , as well as being able to loop and splice tracks. Nice to know you know the benefits of SCSI, I bet you have a great home studio - I'll keep working on mine and labor to be worthy. Enjoy Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: Mich at el B To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:21 PM Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > Hi Steve > > and thanks for the excellent list of info! > > Yes I use SCSSI and love it > > my quaint little studio and me > > Michael B > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Moody > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:26 AM > Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > > > > Michael, > > Probably the most commonly used software is Adobe Easy CD Creator and it > is > > usually included with the purchase of a cd writer, unfortunately it is the > > minimal version which is quite limited unless you order the full - for > about > > $100. My favorite is Digital CD Recording Studio which has all the > > capabilities of the full version of Adobe, is easier to use and only cost > me > > $10 (got it from a discount software bin at the local Fry's). A little > > advice about recording cd's - set your read and write speed to 1 to 1, it > > cuts back on flutter when recording especially on cd to cd music transfers > > and if at all possible transfer the music to your hard drive first (HD > space > > allowing of course) than transfer from there to your cd. I'm sure most > > people have IDE hard drives and IDE cd writers, for best professional > > results SCSI is the way to go, better error correction, faster transfers, > > etc. and are what is used in the recording industry. Unfortunately, SCSI > cd > > writers, audio/video hard drives, controlers and cd roms are considerably > > more expensive than their IDE counterparts. SCSI cd writers are about > $300, > > drives have come down but still around $300 or so, a SCSI controler > > (Adaptec) is about $200, a SCSI cd rom is about $100 ( I recommend Toshiba > > cd roms and cd writers, they have the best specifications in the > > industry).Also - PC sound cards. The benchmark of PC professional sound > > cards has been the high end Turtle Beach series at around $500+ but there > > are now some that are their rivals, the top end Yamaha is rated highly and > > the Layla has gained an incredible following among musicians, its 32 track > > virtual mixer and especially its analog simulated sound is supossedly the > > best of all, a good friend of mine is a lady drummer who also works at a > > major music store chain introduced me to it and it will be my next audio > > card - and is only $300 (it still hurts!). I myself still have a ways to > > go - have the SCSI audio/video drives and controller and a decent sound > > card - Diamond Monster 3 but the remainder of my equipment is IDE. A small > > consolation for all you out there is that the mass produced better sound > > cards, Yamaha, Creative Labs, etc are better than the professional sound > > cards of just 5 years ago. Hope it helps - Steve The Moonman > > ---- Original Message ----- > > From: Mich at el B > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:57 AM > > Subject: off - lend a hand - off > > > > > > Can someone out there recomend some good software for editing music > copied > > from vinyl? > > > > thanks > > michael b From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Jun 7 02:43:07 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 07:43:07 +0100 Subject: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" Message-ID: dunno - but it's a good idea all the same. Andy G.(CDS) ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:26 AM Subject: Re: HW:U.S.A.F.T.S. "Dragonfly" > ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > > > > > >Hey, that's it - get Hawkwind to do a JA cover - ah, but which > > > > > >one? > > > > >Nah, gotta be a blanga version of White Rabbit. > > > with Bridget on vocals? or Sam?? - hey, I feel a good idea coming on > > here..... > > Bridget would be good. How about a charity single? Wasn't there an > infamous Brit documentary about the homeless called "Ask Alice" way back > in the mid 60's? > > FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 7 06:54:15 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:54:15 +0100 Subject: off - lend a hand - off In-Reply-To: Mich@el B's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:27:01 +0930 Message-ID: Mich at el B writes: > Can someone out there recomend some good software for editing music = > copied from vinyl? For writing I use the Feurio download available at www.Feurio.com For editing I use Cooledit Pro. For cleaning up I use Dart Pro. I've heard good things about Soundforge but last time I checked, the price was out of my league. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 7 06:57:52 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:57:52 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind poster Message-ID: I was chatting to someone last night who designed the poster for a Hawkwind gig in Aberdeen, Scotland for a gig in the early 70's. The poster, for which he still has the print blank, was of a woman with wings. He's curious as to the date of the gig. Does anyone who keeps lists of that sort of thing know when it might have been? FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 7 07:39:48 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:09:48 +0930 Subject: CotHM on Amazon.com Message-ID: Oh - I don't feel quite so toopid after all TEe HEee ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Raymond To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 12:08 PM Subject: Re: CotHM on Amazon.com > Curse of the Hidden Mirror - Blue Oyster Cults new album that was just > released. > Chris > NP Paul Kossoff - Back Street Crawler > > "Mich at el B" wrote: > > > > pardon my toopid twestion > > > > but what is CotHM > > > > When Im told I know I'll feel dunmb > > > > but - what the hey > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kevin Sommers > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:04 AM > > Subject: Re: CotHM on Amazon.com > > > > > I hate to say it, but I also pre-ordered it through Amazon, and got it > > > Monday.... > > > > > > KevinSommers > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > > Behalf Of Mike Habiby > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:16 AM > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > Subject: BOC: CotHM on Amazon.com > > > > > > > > > Amazon's email told me it wouldn't arrive till tomorrow at the earliest. > > > > > > I did the preorder so I wouldn't space the release date but now I wish I > > > had just gone to the bloody store and gotten it. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > Ted Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > On 6 Jun 2001, at 11:29, Mike Habiby wrote: > > > > > > > > > You are all welcome.. > > > > > > > > > > I know that it was MY PREORDER that got it to 110 from 111!!! > > > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > > > > So, where's your review? Got my copy last night, but I won't be > > > > able to hear it 'til after work today. And I got a new Marshall > > > > yesterday, so my attention is a little split at present... > > > > > > > > theo > > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 7 07:42:42 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:12:42 +0930 Subject: CotHM on Amazon.com Message-ID: isn't BOC one of those naughty evil devil worshiping bands? teee heee sorry\ ----- Original Message ----- From: Haskell Rascal To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:15 PM Subject: Re: CotHM on Amazon.com > pardon my toopid twestion > > "but what is CotHM" > > we must be stunted together Mikey, as Mikewind confuses here.... > I was bending my mind trying to make "Night Of The Hawk" DVD fit, but I > just couldn't.....so I say....the abbreviations get "too cutesy" for > myself,,,,,but who cares...so long as the good people are enjoying their > "total" "HW experience", this is whats most important, and if it gives them > a sense of enjoyment to abbreviate in a manner of "familiarity" then this > outweighs the usual moments of confusion (i) undergo trying to make sense > of it....... > > guess we'll know soon. > > m From spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM Thu Jun 7 07:41:58 2001 From: spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 07:41:58 -0400 Subject: HW,NIK: Nuclear Waste single on eBay Message-ID: I see that the Nuclear Waste single in the special packaging is up for grabs on eBay. Just thought I'd point it out, because back when I got mine and mentioned it on the list, several people seemed very interested. Anyway, it is item #1435518633. MWood NP: Jethro Tull - _The American Trip '99_ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Jun 7 08:37:39 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:37:39 -0400 Subject: BOC: MIRROR In-Reply-To: <200106062227.SAA32055@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: Nick wrote: > I LOVE this disc. > It's so much better than Heaven Forbid in so many ways, > and I think that's probably why it blew me away so much. With my 20/20 hindsight glasses on...Heaven Forbid seems like everyone was trying to find their own ground, and figure out how to make the most of the band's strengths. On Curse, they nailed it (musically at least). It reminds me of Deep Purple's last two albums. Purpendicular was all over the place and had a raw edge to it. Abandon was more of a band album, and much smoother in its themes and the music itself. The only difference is that I like Purpendicular better for Deep Purple, while Curse is a truckload better than Heaven Forbid. > If > only the album could find its way past today's radio > programmers and consultants and onto the airwaves, I > see several songs that oughta be hits. Yeah, the hits are definitely there, but I don't think there's a station format that these tunes fit into very well. It seems like classic rock stations play 5 bands and 10 songs total, modern rock stations wouldn't touch BOC with a 10 ft. chronos symbol, the '80s stations don't play new stuff by the old bands (not the station here, anyway). I think if the album were released back during the Club Ninja days it would have been a huge seller. That's when songs like Here Comes That Feeling would've fit perfectly on the radio. > Just this morning, I caught myself singing the chorus > to Pocket while changing an especially stinky diaper. I bet you wish you were somewhere else in that "particular second." ;-) Pocket is stuck in my head too. What a great tune! Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio As of last night--Updates galore http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jun 7 09:48:05 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:48:05 -0400 Subject: off - lend a hand - off In-Reply-To: <001301c0eef5$17225ca0$08c3b3d1@kathleens> Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Steve Moody wrote: => Probably the most commonly used software is Adobe Easy CD Creator and it is => usually included with the purchase of a cd writer, unfortunately it is the => minimal version which is quite limited unless you order the full - for about => $100. My favorite is Digital CD Recording Studio which has all the => capabilities of the full version of Adobe, is easier to use and only cost me => $10 (got it from a discount software bin at the local Fry's). A little Sound Forge seems to be the most widely used digital audio editing package, in my experience (based on the text files of shows I receive). Alas, it is not free, but some CD writers come bundled with stripped down versions. CoolEdit is also widely favoured, mostly because you can use it in demo version for free and still get work done if you plan your tasks ahead. (The version I used would only enable two feature sets in any given session.) => more expensive than their IDE counterparts. SCSI cd writers are about $300, => drives have come down but still around $300 or so, a SCSI controler => (Adaptec) is about $200, a SCSI cd rom is about $100 ( I recommend Toshiba => cd roms and cd writers, they have the best specifications in the => industry). I think these prices are way off now. I bought my 8x SCSI Yamaha 8824 CD-RW brand new a year or so ago and it was less than $200. Similarly, a good bus-mastering PCI SCSI controller can be had for way less than $200 (even Adaptec!), and can be picked up REALLY cheap if you buy from eBay. In my experience, the names Plextor and Yamaha are always mentioned when recommending CD-ROM and CD-R{W} drives. Almost everyone reckons that Plextor make hands down the best SCSI CD-ROM drives, especially for digital audio extraction. Yamaha have a long history in CD-R{W}. => Also - PC sound cards. The benchmark of PC professional sound => cards has been the high end Turtle Beach series at around $500+ but there => are now some that are their rivals, the top end Yamaha is rated highly and => the Layla has gained an incredible following among musicians, its 32 track => virtual mixer and especially its analog simulated sound is supossedly the => best of all, a good friend of mine is a lady drummer who also works at a => major music store chain introduced me to it and it will be my next audio => card - and is only $300 (it still hurts!). I myself still have a ways to => go - have the SCSI audio/video drives and controller and a decent sound => card - Diamond Monster 3 but the remainder of my equipment is IDE. A small => consolation for all you out there is that the mass produced better sound => cards, Yamaha, Creative Labs, etc are better than the professional sound => cards of just 5 years ago. Hope it helps - Steve The Moonman The inside of a PC is a terrible, noisy environment (especially now that processor clock speeds are crossing the GHz boundary, and other bus speeds are in the high tens of MHz: the FCC only stipulate what interference is permitted to *leave* the computer case, not what can go on inside it:). For that reason, lots of people serious/anal about transferring analogue to digital will utilise an outboard A/D converter and then use a digital input on a soundcard to get the data into the computer for editing. Bonus points are to be had for using a soundcard that *does not unecessarily resample* its digital input. One such card verified "clean" in this respect is the now-discontinued Zoltrix Nightingale, which can be had for <$30 online! Be aware, though, that the Nightingale is only really good for doing digital in (e.g., from a DAT deck or an outboard A/D converter): its analogue capabilities are poor. But, as a cheap solution for getting digital sounds onto your hard drive, it can't be beaten for price performance. Of course, implicit in this approach is having a good A/D converter somewhere in your audio chain that can feed digital out to the digital in of your sound card... DAT-Heads is probably a good place to look for information about sound cards and doing transfers to digital. If you're not particularly worried about sound quality, or the artifacts of heavily processing the result, though, then probably any sound card will do. Cheers, Paul. PS: Some DDS DAT drives---notably those for SGI---have firmware support for reading digital audio from tapes directly, making the DAT > HD route fairly easy. The real trick is to find an inexpensive drive that *has* the firmware support. :-( e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Jun 7 09:48:40 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:48:40 -0500 Subject: HW,NIK: Nuclear Waste single on eBay Message-ID: ITs the cdsingle with sting!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Wood [mailto:spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 6:42 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW,NIK: Nuclear Waste single on eBay I see that the Nuclear Waste single in the special packaging is up for grabs on eBay. Just thought I'd point it out, because back when I got mine and mentioned it on the list, several people seemed very interested. Anyway, it is item #1435518633. MWood NP: Jethro Tull - _The American Trip '99_ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 7 10:04:34 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:04:34 +0100 Subject: off - lend a hand - off In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:48:05 -0400 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: > In my experience, the names Plextor and Yamaha are always mentioned when > recommending CD-ROM and CD-R{W} drives. Almost everyone reckons that > Plextor make hands down the best SCSI CD-ROM drives, especially for > digital audio extraction. Yep. In line with prior recommendations by Paul I got a SCSI Plextor CD writer and a Digital Island Fiji Soundcard. I've been very happy with the performance of both items (When I tested the noise level of the Fiji against my then Soundblaster Live card on a blank input, noise levels were around 3% in the Fiji compared to the Soundblaster on A/D conversion.) FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 7 10:13:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Pumpkin HEAD) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:43:01 +0930 Subject: Freak Brothers poetry ogg Message-ID: Im Fat Freddies cat and I'm mean n tough I wont take no guff when I strutt my stuff Im an Ornery cuss and im so full of piss If I don't like your looks I'll hit you with this *{{Razor blade*}} *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy *Cat* Im fat freddies cat - I aint no kitty *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy *Cat* Dont embarass me in the middle of the city *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy *Cat* I can make it rough on you if your gonna be shitty - I'll track your records up with my paws and pop your waterbed with my claws I'll shed more fur every time you sweep and sit on your face when your asleep I'll shit in your shoes and pee in your hat and spray the whole house with essence of cat By Fat Freddies Cat~ From spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM Thu Jun 7 10:13:12 2001 From: spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:13:12 -0400 Subject: HW,NIK: Nuclear Waste single on eBay Message-ID: What's the difference? From the liner notes, I got the impression that Sting was on the original version, before he became a household name. This release was made later to capitalize on his name (it says "Sting in a Tin" on the front). What's the full story? MWood NP: _Acid Jam 2_ 6/7/2001 9:48:40 AM, Stephen Lindas wrote: >ITs the cdsingle with sting!!!!!!!! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Marshall Wood [mailto:spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 6:42 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW,NIK: Nuclear Waste single on eBay > > >I see that the Nuclear Waste single in the special packaging is up for grabs >on eBay. Just >thought I'd point it out, because back when I got mine and mentioned it on >the list, several >people seemed very interested. Anyway, it is item #1435518633. > >MWood > >NP: Jethro Tull - _The American Trip '99_ > > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 7 10:15:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Pumpkin HEAD) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:45:45 +0930 Subject: off - lend a hand - off Message-ID: Do you have a recording studio Mike H? Mike B ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:34 PM Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > Paul Mather writes: > > > In my experience, the names Plextor and Yamaha are always mentioned when > > recommending CD-ROM and CD-R{W} drives. Almost everyone reckons that > > Plextor make hands down the best SCSI CD-ROM drives, especially for > > digital audio extraction. > > Yep. In line with prior recommendations by Paul I got a SCSI Plextor CD > writer and a Digital Island Fiji Soundcard. I've been very happy with > the performance of both items (When I tested the noise level of the Fiji > against my then Soundblaster Live card on a blank input, noise levels > were around 3% in the Fiji compared to the Soundblaster on A/D conversion.) > > FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 7 10:17:33 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:47:33 +0930 Subject: Freak Brothers poetry ogg ooops i meant off Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Pumpkin HEAD To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: Freak Brothers poetry ogg > Im Fat Freddies cat > and I'm mean n tough > I wont take no guff > when I strutt my stuff > Im an Ornery cuss > and im so full of piss > If I don't like your looks > I'll hit you with this *{{Razor blade*}} > > *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy > > *Cat* Im fat freddies cat - I aint no kitty > > *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy > > *Cat* Dont embarass me in the middle of the city > > *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy > > *Cat* I can make it rough on you if your gonna be shitty - > > I'll track your records up with my paws > > and pop your waterbed with my claws > > I'll shed more fur every time you sweep > > and sit on your face when your asleep > > I'll shit in your shoes and pee in your hat > > and spray the whole house with essence of cat > > By Fat Freddies Cat~ > From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Jun 7 10:07:44 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:07:44 -0500 Subject: Freak Brothers poetry ogg Message-ID: THAT IS FAR OUT MAN!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Pumpkin HEAD [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:13 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Freak Brothers poetry ogg Im Fat Freddies cat and I'm mean n tough I wont take no guff when I strutt my stuff Im an Ornery cuss and im so full of piss If I don't like your looks I'll hit you with this *{{Razor blade*}} *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy *Cat* Im fat freddies cat - I aint no kitty *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy *Cat* Dont embarass me in the middle of the city *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy *Cat* I can make it rough on you if your gonna be shitty - I'll track your records up with my paws and pop your waterbed with my claws I'll shed more fur every time you sweep and sit on your face when your asleep I'll shit in your shoes and pee in your hat and spray the whole house with essence of cat By Fat Freddies Cat~ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 7 10:25:54 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:55:54 +0930 Subject: Freak Brothers poetry ogg Message-ID: Straight from the comic - ahhh the memories ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Freak Brothers poetry ogg > THAT IS FAR OUT MAN!!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pumpkin HEAD [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:13 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Freak Brothers poetry ogg > > > Im Fat Freddies cat > and I'm mean n tough > I wont take no guff > when I strutt my stuff > Im an Ornery cuss > and im so full of piss > If I don't like your looks > I'll hit you with this *{{Razor blade*}} > > *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy > > *Cat* Im fat freddies cat - I aint no kitty > > *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy > > *Cat* Dont embarass me in the middle of the city > > *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy > > *Cat* I can make it rough on you if your gonna be shitty - > > I'll track your records up with my paws > > and pop your waterbed with my claws > > I'll shed more fur every time you sweep > > and sit on your face when your asleep > > I'll shit in your shoes and pee in your hat > > and spray the whole house with essence of cat > > By Fat Freddies Cat~ > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Jun 7 11:24:16 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Nux Vomica) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:24:16 -0600 Subject: HW,NIK: Nuclear Waste single on eBay In-Reply-To: <200106071411.KAA28269@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: MW: "What's the difference? From the liner notes, I got the impression that Sting was on the original version, before he became a household name. This release was made later to capitalize on his name (it says "Sting in a Tin" on the front). What's the full story?" it's my understanding that it is a recording done before he got famous, along with Hillage, Williamson, etc..... it was originally released as a very limited 45, on the Virgin/Nuke label, and this mix of the song and 45, are the rarest.....it then was issued again a couple more times, one of them by Charly records (I think the last issue), and now latest on the CD of interest here. The CD version has a mix of it's own (I believe), which is slightly different than any of the 45's, which all differ a little I believe. The CD version came in a silver tin, AND a blue colored tin (that I know/have), and there is also a jewel case version. mike c From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Jun 7 10:21:02 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:21:02 -0500 Subject: HW,NIK: Nuclear Waste single on eBay Message-ID: MY copy has a radiation symbol on it. There is nothing wrong with it. Its actually good. Steve hillage is on it too. SPHYNX band maybe????? I was hoping for INNER CITY UNIT, thats why I said that. I liked sting until the POLICE broke up. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Wood [mailto:spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:13 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW,NIK: Nuclear Waste single on eBay What's the difference? From the liner notes, I got the impression that Sting was on the original version, before he became a household name. This release was made later to capitalize on his name (it says "Sting in a Tin" on the front). What's the full story? MWood NP: _Acid Jam 2_ 6/7/2001 9:48:40 AM, Stephen Lindas wrote: >ITs the cdsingle with sting!!!!!!!! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Marshall Wood [mailto:spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM] >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 6:42 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW,NIK: Nuclear Waste single on eBay > > >I see that the Nuclear Waste single in the special packaging is up for grabs >on eBay. Just >thought I'd point it out, because back when I got mine and mentioned it on >the list, several >people seemed very interested. Anyway, it is item #1435518633. > >MWood > >NP: Jethro Tull - _The American Trip '99_ > > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 7 10:41:10 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:41:10 +0100 Subject: off - lend a hand - off In-Reply-To: Pumpkin HEAD's message of Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:45:45 +0930 Message-ID: Pumpkin HEAD writes: > Do you have a recording studio Mike H? No. How much does one cost? FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 7 10:50:39 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:20:39 +0930 Subject: off - lend a hand - off Message-ID: Well it just so happens that I have one right here going for a cool 25 G's Jos Keeding mon! Unless you REALLY want it - You'll have to send a self stamped addressed envelope tho :) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:11 AM Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > Pumpkin HEAD writes: > > > Do you have a recording studio Mike H? > > No. How much does one cost? > > FoFP > From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Jun 7 10:34:15 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:34:15 +0200 Subject: Hawkwind poster In-Reply-To: <200106071057.LAA23807@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Mike Here are all known shows from the 70ies in Aberdeen At 11:57 07.06.2001 +0100, you wrote: >I was chatting to someone last night who designed the poster for a >Hawkwind gig in Aberdeen, Scotland for a gig in the early 70's. The >poster, for which he still has the print blank, was of a woman with >wings. He's curious as to the date of the gig. Does anyone who keeps >lists of that sort of thing know when it might have been? TOWN: HALL: DATE: Aberdeen Cowdray Hall 08.12.1971 Aberdeen Music Hall 24.11.1972 Aberdeen Music Hall 19.12.1973 Aberdeen Capitol 22.09.1976 cheers Bernhard From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Thu Jun 7 11:21:08 2001 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:21:08 EDT Subject: BOC: The inerview if you missed it. Message-ID: In a message dated 06/06/2001 8:30:13 AM Central Daylight Time, mlooney20 at HOME.COM writes: > Speaking of which any other list members going to be at that show? > I'm planning on it... Anyone know who made the request? From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jun 7 11:35:28 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:35:28 +0100 Subject: SILICON GULCH In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A07A@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: Dont know, but I'd love a copy......... -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Stephen Lindas Sent: 06 June 2001 11:01 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: SILICON GULCH I just got a recording of CALVERTS--KID FROM SILICON GULCH. Is this rare? Anyone know how many times this was performed? STEPHE From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jun 7 11:36:01 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:36:01 +0100 Subject: off - lend a hand - off In-Reply-To: <000a01c0ee88$2eefbc00$88d0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: Cool edit pro, definately. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Mich at el B Sent: 06 June 2001 13:57 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: off - lend a hand - off Can someone out there recomend some good software for editing music copied from vinyl? thanks michael b From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 7 11:43:51 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:13:51 +0930 Subject: off - lend a hand - off Message-ID: cheers signing off now - no no -don't get upset - I still love you all I jest needs my beauty sleep s'all hee heee heee heeee do'oh ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Fagin To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:06 AM Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > Cool edit pro, definately. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Mich at el B > Sent: 06 June 2001 13:57 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: off - lend a hand - off > > > Can someone out there recomend some good software for editing music copied > from vinyl? > > thanks > michael b From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Thu Jun 7 11:41:24 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:41:24 -0600 Subject: Freak Brothers poetry ogg Message-ID: Now I'm gonna have to go digging for the comics thsat are buried someplace here. I love those! Pam "Mich at el B" wrote: > Straight from the comic - ahhh the memories > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Lindas > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:37 PM > Subject: Re: Freak Brothers poetry ogg > > > THAT IS FAR OUT MAN!!!! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pumpkin HEAD [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:13 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Freak Brothers poetry ogg > > > > > > Im Fat Freddies cat > > and I'm mean n tough > > I wont take no guff > > when I strutt my stuff > > Im an Ornery cuss > > and im so full of piss > > If I don't like your looks > > I'll hit you with this *{{Razor blade*}} > > > > *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy > > > > *Cat* Im fat freddies cat - I aint no kitty > > > > *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy > > > > *Cat* Dont embarass me in the middle of the city > > > > *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy > > > > *Cat* I can make it rough on you if your gonna be shitty - > > > > I'll track your records up with my paws > > > > and pop your waterbed with my claws > > > > I'll shed more fur every time you sweep > > > > and sit on your face when your asleep > > > > I'll shit in your shoes and pee in your hat > > > > and spray the whole house with essence of cat > > > > By Fat Freddies Cat~ > > -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace [Message 052250 deleted by moderator at the author's request] From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Thu Jun 7 11:44:11 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:44:11 -0400 Subject: BOC: MIRROR v. Mirrors -- who wins? Message-ID: >Yeah, the hits are definitely there, but I don't think there's >a station >format that these tunes fit into very well. It seems like classic rock >stations play 5 bands and 10 songs total, > modern rock stations wouldn't touch BOC with a 10 ft. chronos symbol, Its odd how the some of the modern rock stations around here play old Aerosmith at times, along with Scott era AC/DC. strikes me as... odd. But yeah... the idea that BOC has a new album of new material is impossible for programmers to grasp. Last time I heard non Reaper/Godzilla/Burnin for You was in the early 90's on a short-lived attempt to have a metal station in Syracuse. they played Red and the black, Golden age of leather and something else from the non singles collection. oh yeah, Cities on Flame. Sad its gone. >seller. That's when songs like Here Comes That Feeling would've fit >perfectly on the radio. Yes. What's also cool about this is it seems CMC gave BOC a bigger budget to work with -- I mean that album art is really really good -- its got the aesthetic sensibility of their classic album covers (up to Revolution by Night). Here's hoping to rock out more. I do wish though that the in memoriam included Helen Wheels. But that's neither here nor there. Jason PS: heheh. yeah that subject line is Bad. my vote goes to Curse of.. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jun 7 12:01:14 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:01:14 -0400 Subject: off - lend a hand - off In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Ben Fagin bizarrely responded: => you can download a fully working copy of the latest nero burning rom => => here => => www.gulli.com I'm not sure why my posting prompted a link to a German "warez" site in response, or even what Nero has to do with transferring vinyl sources. Anyway... FWIW, you can actually obtain a time-limited "fully working copy" of Nero from the official WWW site. However, most people I know recommend Feurio! for burning audio on Windows, and its demo is not crippled in any way. For myself, I use the public domain cdrecord under NetBSD/alpha for all my data and audio burning needs. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 7 12:20:57 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:50:57 +0930 Subject: off - lend a hand - off Message-ID: cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Fagin To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:20 AM Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > you can download a fully working copy of the latest nero burning rom > > here > > www.gulli.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Paul Mather > Sent: 07 June 2001 14:48 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Steve Moody wrote: > > => Probably the most commonly used software is Adobe Easy CD Creator and it > is > => usually included with the purchase of a cd writer, unfortunately it is > the > => minimal version which is quite limited unless you order the full - for > about > => $100. My favorite is Digital CD Recording Studio which has all the > => capabilities of the full version of Adobe, is easier to use and only cost > me > => $10 (got it from a discount software bin at the local Fry's). A little > > Sound Forge seems to be the most widely used digital audio editing > package, in my experience (based on the text files of shows I receive). > Alas, it is not free, but some CD writers come bundled with stripped > down versions. CoolEdit is also widely favoured, mostly because you can > use it in demo version for free and still get work done if you plan your > tasks ahead. (The version I used would only enable two feature sets in > any given session.) > > => more expensive than their IDE counterparts. SCSI cd writers are about > $300, > => drives have come down but still around $300 or so, a SCSI controler > => (Adaptec) is about $200, a SCSI cd rom is about $100 ( I recommend > Toshiba > => cd roms and cd writers, they have the best specifications in the > => industry). > > I think these prices are way off now. I bought my 8x SCSI Yamaha 8824 > CD-RW brand new a year or so ago and it was less than $200. Similarly, > a good bus-mastering PCI SCSI controller can be had for way less than > $200 (even Adaptec!), and can be picked up REALLY cheap if you buy from > eBay. > > In my experience, the names Plextor and Yamaha are always mentioned when > recommending CD-ROM and CD-R{W} drives. Almost everyone reckons that > Plextor make hands down the best SCSI CD-ROM drives, especially for > digital audio extraction. Yamaha have a long history in CD-R{W}. > > => Also - PC sound cards. The benchmark of PC professional sound > => cards has been the high end Turtle Beach series at around $500+ but > there > => are now some that are their rivals, the top end Yamaha is rated highly > and > => the Layla has gained an incredible following among musicians, its 32 > track > => virtual mixer and especially its analog simulated sound is supossedly the > => best of all, a good friend of mine is a lady drummer who also works at a > => major music store chain introduced me to it and it will be my next audio > => card - and is only $300 (it still hurts!). I myself still have a ways to > => go - have the SCSI audio/video drives and controller and a decent sound > => card - Diamond Monster 3 but the remainder of my equipment is IDE. A > small > => consolation for all you out there is that the mass produced better sound > => cards, Yamaha, Creative Labs, etc are better than the professional sound > => cards of just 5 years ago. Hope it helps - Steve The Moonman > > The inside of a PC is a terrible, noisy environment (especially now that > processor clock speeds are crossing the GHz boundary, and other bus > speeds are in the high tens of MHz: the FCC only stipulate what > interference is permitted to *leave* the computer case, not what can go > on inside it:). For that reason, lots of people serious/anal about > transferring analogue to digital will utilise an outboard A/D converter > and then use a digital input on a soundcard to get the data into the > computer for editing. Bonus points are to be had for using a soundcard > that *does not unecessarily resample* its digital input. One such card > verified "clean" in this respect is the now-discontinued Zoltrix > Nightingale, which can be had for <$30 online! Be aware, though, that > the Nightingale is only really good for doing digital in (e.g., from a > DAT deck or an outboard A/D converter): its analogue capabilities are > poor. But, as a cheap solution for getting digital sounds onto your > hard drive, it can't be beaten for price performance. Of course, > implicit in this approach is having a good A/D converter somewhere in > your audio chain that can feed digital out to the digital in of your > sound card... > > DAT-Heads is probably a good place to look for information about sound > cards and doing transfers to digital. > > If you're not particularly worried about sound quality, or the artifacts > of heavily processing the result, though, then probably any sound card > will do. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > PS: Some DDS DAT drives---notably those for SGI---have firmware support > for reading digital audio from tapes directly, making the DAT > HD route > fairly easy. The real trick is to find an inexpensive drive that *has* > the firmware support. :-( > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 7 12:21:32 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:51:32 +0930 Subject: Freak Brothers poetry ogg Message-ID: They're so funny :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:11 AM Subject: Re: Freak Brothers poetry ogg > Now I'm gonna have to go digging for the comics thsat are buried > someplace here. I love those! > Pam > > "Mich at el B" wrote: > > > Straight from the comic - ahhh the memories > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Stephen Lindas > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:37 PM > > Subject: Re: Freak Brothers poetry ogg > > > > > THAT IS FAR OUT MAN!!!! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Pumpkin HEAD [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > > > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:13 AM > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > Subject: Freak Brothers poetry ogg > > > > > > > > > Im Fat Freddies cat > > > and I'm mean n tough > > > I wont take no guff > > > when I strutt my stuff > > > Im an Ornery cuss > > > and im so full of piss > > > If I don't like your looks > > > I'll hit you with this *{{Razor blade*}} > > > > > > *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy > > > > > > *Cat* Im fat freddies cat - I aint no kitty > > > > > > *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy > > > > > > *Cat* Dont embarass me in the middle of the city > > > > > > *Fat Freddy* Heeeere kiiiiiittttyyyyy kitttttyyyyyyy > > > > > > *Cat* I can make it rough on you if your gonna be shitty - > > > > > > I'll track your records up with my paws > > > > > > and pop your waterbed with my claws > > > > > > I'll shed more fur every time you sweep > > > > > > and sit on your face when your asleep > > > > > > I'll shit in your shoes and pee in your hat > > > > > > and spray the whole house with essence of cat > > > > > > By Fat Freddies Cat~ > > > > > -- > Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton > _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace > 0 0 E-mail: cwheaton at TransWestTaxi.com > URL:http://www.TransWestTaxi.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jun 7 13:16:50 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:16:50 EDT Subject: BOC: MIRROR In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F6606@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: On 7 Jun 2001, at 11:44, Scruton, Jason wrote: > What's also cool about this is it seems CMC gave BOC a bigger budget > to work with -- I mean that album art is really really good -- its got > the aesthetic sensibility of their classic album covers (up to > Revolution by Night). Here's hoping to rock out more. > Good point! The album art is first rate, and rivals any of their best--it may actually be their best alubum art. YMMV. Kind of reminds me of Spectres, eh? And beyond the artwork, the budget is apparent in the sound quality, isn't it? This disc sounds much better than HF, no? Still no review yet--haven't played it enough, but I like Showtime's use of vibrato guitar on the verses. Some of the lyrics are really bad, but I'm hoping they'll make more sense on repeated listenings. I really like EB's vox on this disc. Sounds like he's back to the old days, vocally... theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Jun 7 13:23:35 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:23:35 -0400 Subject: BOC: Pocket on the charts Message-ID: Some good news from Friday Morning Quarterback: http://www.fmqb.com/ Pocket is #77 on the "Hot Trax 100." It's currently playing on 24 stations (6 were added last week) It's had 238 "spins," up from 206 last week. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Thu Jun 7 13:53:21 2001 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 18:53:21 +0100 Subject: BOC: SFG & recycled riffs? Message-ID: I dunno about CotHM - maybe I'll pick it up sometime, but I'm sure glad I nabbed a copy of the Rhino SFG remaster disc. Great job by Rhino, but the real star is the playing on some of the tracks - it sounds so accomplished ! A question though. While I'm listening to the songs, a few parts sounded really familiar, like they were subsequently used on BOC songs. The main one that springs to mind is the killer lead break @ 2.00 into Curse of the Hidden Mirror - has Buck slotted that into one of his extended live solos or am I mistaken ? The other part was the outro to Gil Blanco County maybe ? Tim ObCD (for some time now): Tool, _Lateralus_ From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Thu Jun 7 14:12:59 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:12:59 -0400 Subject: BOC: SFG & recycled riffs? Message-ID: The other part was the outro to Gil >Blanco County >maybe ? It ends the live version of Reaper. jason From starfield at SUPANET.COM Thu Jun 7 14:54:52 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:54:52 +0100 Subject: off - lend a hand - off Message-ID: Too true. Midiman's new Audiophile 2496 is one such card and I can say as a user that it's excellent. Expect to pay around ?170 for one. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Mather To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:48 PM Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > Bonus points are to be had for using a soundcard > that *does not unecessarily resample* its digital input. From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Jun 7 15:37:36 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:37:36 -0700 Subject: off - lend a hand - off Message-ID: Forgot about the Plextor CD Rom, it does have the best performance and has SCSI Ultra Wide Interface, I stand corrected. Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: Pumpkin HEAD To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 7:15 AM Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > Do you have a recording studio Mike H? > > Mike B > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M Holmes > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:34 PM > Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > > > > Paul Mather writes: > > > > > In my experience, the names Plextor and Yamaha are always mentioned when > > > recommending CD-ROM and CD-R{W} drives. Almost everyone reckons that > > > Plextor make hands down the best SCSI CD-ROM drives, especially for > > > digital audio extraction. > > > > Yep. In line with prior recommendations by Paul I got a SCSI Plextor CD > > writer and a Digital Island Fiji Soundcard. I've been very happy with > > the performance of both items (When I tested the noise level of the Fiji > > against my then Soundblaster Live card on a blank input, noise levels > > were around 3% in the Fiji compared to the Soundblaster on A/D > conversion.) > > > > FoFP From mlooney20 at HOME.COM Thu Jun 7 17:45:27 2001 From: mlooney20 at HOME.COM (Mike Looney) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:45:27 -0700 Subject: BOC: The inerview if you missed it. Message-ID: Rocker22 at AOL.COM wrote: > > In a message dated 06/06/2001 8:30:13 AM Central Daylight Time, > mlooney20 at HOME.COM writes: > > > Speaking of which any other list members going to be at that show? > > > > I'm planning on it... > > Anyone know who made the request? No clue. I'll be warring my 25th anv. BOC "On Tour Forever" tee shirt, just BTW. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 7 15:56:25 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 05:26:25 +0930 Subject: off - lend a hand - off Message-ID: will have to suss those gizmos out Thanks for the help - I hadn't heard of that brand of CD rom before g'Nite mAAA - Paaaa - Jim bob - Juniper Berry - G'nite Agnes - Cyril - Popeye - Fat Freddy - Ohhhhhhh guinness n weed - time for bed~ I hope that cheese wasn't to old man...... yo ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Moody To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 5:07 AM Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > Forgot about the Plextor CD Rom, it does have the best performance and has > SCSI Ultra Wide Interface, I stand corrected. > Steve The Moonman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pumpkin HEAD > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 7:15 AM > Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > > > > Do you have a recording studio Mike H? > > > > Mike B > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: M Holmes > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:34 PM > > Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off > > > > > > > Paul Mather writes: > > > > > > > In my experience, the names Plextor and Yamaha are always mentioned > when > > > > recommending CD-ROM and CD-R{W} drives. Almost everyone reckons that > > > > Plextor make hands down the best SCSI CD-ROM drives, especially for > > > > digital audio extraction. > > > > > > Yep. In line with prior recommendations by Paul I got a SCSI Plextor CD > > > writer and a Digital Island Fiji Soundcard. I've been very happy with > > > the performance of both items (When I tested the noise level of the Fiji > > > against my then Soundblaster Live card on a blank input, noise levels > > > were around 3% in the Fiji compared to the Soundblaster on A/D > > conversion.) > > > > > > FoFP > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 7 15:57:16 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 05:27:16 +0930 Subject: BOC: The inerview if you missed it. Message-ID: Mike Looney? Is that you man? Or someone else? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Looney To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:15 AM Subject: Re: BOC: The inerview if you missed it. > Rocker22 at AOL.COM wrote: > > > > In a message dated 06/06/2001 8:30:13 AM Central Daylight Time, > > mlooney20 at HOME.COM writes: > > > > > Speaking of which any other list members going to be at that show? > > > > > > > I'm planning on it... > > > > Anyone know who made the request? > > No clue. I'll be warring my 25th anv. BOC "On Tour Forever" tee > shirt, just BTW. From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Thu Jun 7 20:05:35 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:05:35 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawk Logs Master Series Message-ID: Those who already got their Hawk Logs can go here for preliminary scans of the first six (those still waiting, I am on #10): www.pipeline.com/~stemfors I say preliminary because these are just default jpg saves of the original 300 dpi TIF images which are about 20 Megs in size and so can't be posted. They look a bit crappy but when they are printed they are about as good as the originals, which seem to have been created on a PC printer to start with (at least the early ones), so I may not be able to improve them much. Try printing one out and see if its acceptable, if not I will try again - I will eventually get this right. Also note that the early back inserts were a bit too small and don't properly fill the width of the tray-back. Any suggestions for improvements would be appreciated. Stephan From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Thu Jun 7 20:05:33 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:05:33 -0400 Subject: OFF: Circle, Pharaoh Overlord, Paul Chain Message-ID: >Yeah, Pori is great, and a good one to start for the uninitiated. "Kartano" >is a can't miss for Hawkwind fans. (And the first half of Andexelt is also >great.) Zopalki is interesting to this of as 'cohesive,' 'cause I've never >heard more contrast from one track to the next as I have between tracks 1 >and 2 on that album! Of course, it's the best part! Well, its very subjective I know, but to me some releases seem more like 'albums' and some seem more like 'collections of songs/musical pieces'. Although the tracks on Zopalki cover a wide stylistic ground, they all seem to come from the same spiritual/emotional/intellectual wellspring and end up creating a complete picture - the contrast between tracks 1 and 2 that you mention is an integral part of the experience of listening to the album, and something would almost certainly be lost if you were to play the CD in shuffle mode for example. Pori also has great variation in its tracks, but again they all hang together as a whole. On first listen I don't get that feeling from Taantumus, it seems more like a group of (quite fine, even excellent) individual pieces. I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with this, but to take Hawkwind as an example, I see all the UA releases as albums, while the Charisma releases are mostly collections of songs, with the exception of Astounding which is somewhere in between but closer to an album. I don't see an album as being intrinsically superior to a collection, but I think it is more difficult to create as the artist has to maintain a certain feeling across the entire length of a work that may include many differnt kinds of pieces. Or I could be full of crap, you decide. To bore you with yet another example, I consider Ace of Spades to be an album, as I discovered when I got the (otherwise excellent) Castle remaster - they futzed with the track order to put the 'hit' Ace of Spades up first and destroyed the 1-2 punch of Chase/Reptile. If AoS were just a collection of great songs, you could pretty much play them in any order. Same thing with Another Perfect Day, although there they may have had some justification, as the painted tracklist on the back cover didn't tally with the vinyl song order. Sorry for the profuse verbiage. > Oh, by the way, I just saw on the SubArachnoid site that they >and Circle are also doing a split CD together soon. My guess is that it'll >be a joint Charnel/Ektro release. Cool. I've seen this news too, and that'll be something to look for. >>Paul Chain - Signs from Space >>Richard was plugging this earlier, and he is right: these guys really do >>have the spirit, if not quite the chops, of '72 Hawkwind. > >I remember seeing this name awhile back...what label is it on? Beard of Stars - get it (and Circle/Pharaoh Overlord) from www.cranium.co.nz - hi Richard -is my payola in the mail? On a related note, has anyone heard Ufomammut and/or Thumlock and want to give their opinions? Stephan From sebastian at WELTON.DE Thu Jun 7 19:56:05 2001 From: sebastian at WELTON.DE (Sebastian Welton) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:56:05 +0200 Subject: HW: Bored while watching the election online Message-ID: While watching the count come I decided to trawl the web looking for Hawkwind and related stuff that doesn't seem to have been mentioned here: - Hawkwind (along with Abba) were used as the soundtrack to a Swedish/Danish/Italian film called Tillsammans directed by Lukas Moodysson in 2000 (I think I might have seen this actually) - There's a very nice poster called Fantasy by Peter Pracownik based on Hawkwind (DM23 from www.poster.de) - There are 2 Burg Herzberg CD's available of which the first contains Hawkwind playing Love In Space (also includes Gong, Guru Guru, Faust, etc.) - There's a 700W horn system (at DM13,340) and a 1800W bass reflex speaker (at DM5,742) under the model range Hawkwind and there' a PA system called Hawkwind - You can get a nice poster of the line-up of the Hot Rock Night festival (1973) featuring Hawkwind and others (from www.rockart.de) - Jimmy Cauty (he of KLF fame) released a remake of Silver Machine calling himself Scourge Of The Earth which is available on the I Don't Know What You Want But I Can't Give It Any More sampler (any other versions of this as this is only a radio edit? And I wouldn't mind a copy) - There's a track on the album Nani Nani by Dekoboko Hajime called Bad Hawkwind - A cover version of Silver Machine by Payola/Sissies/Smoke Blow on the 10" album The Good, The Bad And The Ugly That's enough crap...looks like Labour have done it again...time for bed... MfG / Regards Sebastian Welton - sebastian at welton.de ************************************** www.welton.de +++++++ 0049 171 8880522 From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jun 7 20:09:43 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:09:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: Circle, Pharaoh Overlord, Paul Chain In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20010608000533.007118d4@pop.pipeline.com> Message-ID: In message <1.5.4.32.20010608000533.007118d4 at pop.pipeline.com>, Stephan Forstner writes >I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with this, but to take Hawkwind as an >example, I see all the UA releases as albums, while the Charisma releases >are mostly collections of songs, with the exception of Astounding which is >somewhere in between but closer to an album. I know what you mean, and I agree about the UA albums, although "Hall" doesn't quite fit the bill IMHO, with the mix of live and studio (although it's my favourite HW album after Space Ritual). But I can't really agree on the Charisma LPs: Quark and Hawklords are definite albums to my way of thinking, while ASAM is a bit of a ragbag. And... uh... well that's it really, just thought I'd confirm your suspicion that people would disagree :) -- Nick Medford From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jun 7 22:00:52 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 03:00:52 +0100 Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F65F2@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Scruton, Jason wrote: > >hearing what I've heard of the new one, I appreciate HF > >a lot LESS than I did even just yesterday. > > > >I think the songwriting (music-wise) is FANTASTIC this > >time out, This is all getting a bit much to take. You're aware over there that it's not out in the UK until the 18th, are you? No, neither was I until I tried to buy it. So I have to wait. Grr... > The band has benefited from playing together as much as they have live. They > sound like a functioning unit. and Bobby R's drumming is gathering some > courage to syncopate. > > What strikes me as ironic though, about the whole album, is its named after > a song written by two people who are (to varying degrees and in varying > ways) estranged from the band today. Go figure. > > BUT its promising that more than two of the tracks are collaborative > songwriting efforts. after all, Rondinelli is the first drummer since Albert > B. to be in a writing credit, right? Does he make a difference to it? But yes, I think letting the non-3 guys into the band like this is a step they should have taken ages ago, So glad to see Danny especially getting a toehold. Yours, Jon P.S. Although Neal Smith gets a credit on `Shadow of California', no? -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jun 7 22:08:21 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 03:08:21 +0100 Subject: HW: RE: calvert question In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20010605175756.006c78ec@pop.pipeline.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Stephan Forstner wrote: > Incidently, the Spirit of the P/Age offers this lyric for Greenfly - 'As > their tiny jaws / munch on plan and cause' - I think a case could be made > for 'munch on planet cores' as well. It doesn't settle the question of course, but that's how I've always heard it. I actually like the first line you give better though :-) Yours, Jon ObListening: election results on Radio 4 -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jun 7 22:18:31 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 03:18:31 +0100 Subject: OFF. Jefferson Starship - Dragonfly In-Reply-To: <200106052200.SAA25068@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Doug Pearson wrote: > Have you heard the 'Fillmore' live CD (from '68 IIRC) that was recently > released? Very similar to, and possibly better than, 'Pointed Head'. > Essential for Airplane fans (like me) ... Is this the same as a thing I've got called _Through the Looking Glass_? If not, does anyone know what this is? It doesn't seem like a boot, it has a label address (in Italy) and a full band bio, but nothing actually specific to the actual release beyond a back-cover tracklist. It's *great*, but I'd like to know it's in some sense legit. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jun 7 22:40:24 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 03:40:24 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <013501c0d369$50bd8b80$341c883e@jds> Message-ID: On Thu, 3 May 2001, Jill Strobridge wrote: > My ticket for Canterbury arrived the other day! Not that it > proves anything since I also had a ticket for the Buxton Festival > which was cancelled at the last minute. Kent hasn't had a FMD > case since 2nd April and restrictions have been lifted now. Mind > you restrictions were lifted in Somerset and I see they've just had > a new case confirmed so it's still a bit of a risky venture. > Wouldn't like to be one of the organisers. Good luck folks! Is there any other news? Not so much the actual event, which as far as I can ascertain is going on fine, but list-type arrangements for getting there? Kirsten and I are looking into really cheap B&Bs in the area but we don't know whether anyone else is planning things, and there was some talk of a bus? Anyone? Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jun 8 01:44:41 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:44:41 -0400 Subject: OFF. Jefferson Starship - Dragonfly Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 03:18:31 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Doug Pearson wrote: > >> Have you heard the 'Fillmore' live CD (from '68 IIRC) that was recently >> released? Very similar to, and possibly better than, 'Pointed Head'. >> Essential for Airplane fans (like me) ... > > Is this the same as a thing I've got called _Through the Looking Glass_? No, it's 'Live at the Fillmore East', released in 1998 on RCA (well, really BMG). Recorded 3 & 4 May 1968. Similar to 'Pointed Head' (the jam similar to "Bear Melt" is entitled "Thing"), but with more songs from 'After Bathing At Baxter's' (my fave JA album) & 'Crown of Creation'. >If not, does anyone know what this is? It doesn't seem like a >boot, it has a label address (in Italy) and a full band bio, but nothing >actually specific to the actual release beyond a back-cover >tracklist. It's *great*, but I'd like to know it's in some sense >legit. An Italian address makes things a bit suspicious ... I would *hope* that I'd heard of it if it really was legit. Does it have good sound? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Jun 8 02:40:49 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 02:40:49 -0400 Subject: OFF: NIK: Nuclear Waste single on eBay Message-ID: As an aside, VH1 showed the Police Behind The Music recently, which includes interview segments with the legendary Mike Howlett Stuart The Hawkwind Shop http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=HAWKWIND&s=1151 -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Wood [mailto:spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:13 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW,NIK: Nuclear Waste single on eBay What's the difference? From the liner notes, I got the impression that Sting was on the original version, before he became a household name. This release was made later to capitalize on his name (it says "Sting in a Tin" on the front). What's the full story? MWood From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Jun 8 02:44:14 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 02:44:14 -0400 Subject: BOC: MIRROR Message-ID: You have no idea how sick this discussion makes me:-( Another 10 days before the UK release. Bastards, bastards, bastards. Stuart The Hawkwind Shop http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=HAWKWIND&s=1151 n 7 Jun 2001, at 11:44, Scruton, Jason wrote: > What's also cool about this is it seems CMC gave BOC a bigger budget > to work with -- I mean that album art is really really good -- its got > the aesthetic sensibility of their classic album covers (up to > Revolution by Night). Here's hoping to rock out more. > Good point! The album art is first rate, and rivals any of their best--it may actually be their best alubum art. YMMV. Kind of reminds me of Spectres, eh? And beyond the artwork, the budget is apparent in the sound quality, isn't it? This disc sounds much better than HF, no? Still no review yet--haven't played it enough, but I like Showtime's use of vibrato guitar on the verses. Some of the lyrics are really bad, but I'm hoping they'll make more sense on repeated listenings. I really like EB's vox on this disc. Sounds like he's back to the old days, vocally... theo From hne at INETNOW.NET Fri Jun 8 04:40:17 2001 From: hne at INETNOW.NET (Keith Hopkins) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:40:17 +0900 Subject: BOC: MIRROR Message-ID: Hey Stuart, This might make you feel a little better...I'm in Japan. I haven't seen it in the stores (HMV/Virgin) and they don't seem to know when it will be available here. :-( Keith Zeitgeist wrote: > You have no idea how sick this discussion makes me:-( Another 10 days > before the UK release. Bastards, bastards, bastards. > > Stuart > The Hawkwind Shop > http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=HAWKWIND&s=1151 > > > n 7 Jun 2001, at 11:44, Scruton, Jason wrote: > > >> What's also cool about this is it seems CMC gave BOC a bigger budget >> to work with -- I mean that album art is really really good -- its got >> the aesthetic sensibility of their classic album covers (up to >> Revolution by Night). Here's hoping to rock out more. >> > > Good point! The album art is first rate, and rivals any of their best--it > may actually be their best alubum art. YMMV. Kind of reminds me > of Spectres, eh? And beyond the artwork, the budget is apparent in > the sound quality, isn't it? This disc sounds much better than HF, > no? > > Still no review yet--haven't played it enough, but I like Showtime's > use of vibrato guitar on the verses. Some of the lyrics are really > bad, but I'm hoping they'll make more sense on repeated listenings. > > I really like EB's vox on this disc. Sounds like he's back to the old > days, vocally... > theo From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Jun 8 05:50:51 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 05:50:51 -0400 Subject: OFF: Spaceritual Message-ID: The truth is out there; http://www.spaceritual.co.uk From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jun 8 07:28:58 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 07:28:58 EDT Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8 Jun 2001, at 3:00, Jon Jarrett wrote: > This is all getting a bit much to take. You're aware over > there > that it's not out in the UK until the 18th, are you? No, neither was I > until I tried to buy it. So I have to wait. Grr... > '...Ah feel yer pain...' But you guys on the other side of the pond got the new Monster Magnet a month or so before we did, and our version doesn't include the best song they did, 'Down in the Jungle...' >> Does he make a difference to it? But yes, I think letting the > non-3 guys into the band like this is a step they should have taken > ages ago, So glad to see Danny especially getting a toehold. Yours, > Danny's playing is boffo on CotHM...excellent throughout the disc... theo From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 08:19:07 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:19:07 -0400 Subject: HW: Bored while watching the election online Message-ID: I was half-watching a late night kung-fu film on satellite tv once. During one of the fight scenes I noticed that the backgound music was from 'Pictures at an Exhibition' by Isao Tomita (One of my favourite musicians). That was unusual enough. This was then imediately followed by 'Masters of the Universe' by Hawkwind. By this time I was checking to see if my hi-fi had come on by accident or someone else was playing it in the house. Freaked me right out. Alastair. On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:56:05 +0200, Sebastian Welton wrote: >While watching the count come I decided to trawl the web looking for >Hawkwind and related stuff that doesn't seem to have been mentioned here: > >- Hawkwind (along with Abba) were used as the soundtrack to a >Swedish/Danish/Italian film called Tillsammans directed by Lukas Moodysson >in 2000 (I think I might have seen this actually) > >- There's a very nice poster called Fantasy by Peter Pracownik based on >Hawkwind (DM23 from www.poster.de) > >- There are 2 Burg Herzberg CD's available of which the first contains >Hawkwind playing Love In Space (also includes Gong, Guru Guru, Faust, etc.) > >- There's a 700W horn system (at DM13,340) and a 1800W bass reflex speaker >(at DM5,742) under the model range Hawkwind and there' a PA system called >Hawkwind > >- You can get a nice poster of the line-up of the Hot Rock Night festival >(1973) featuring Hawkwind and others (from www.rockart.de) > >- Jimmy Cauty (he of KLF fame) released a remake of Silver Machine calling >himself Scourge Of The Earth which is available on the I Don't Know What You >Want But I Can't Give It Any More sampler (any other versions of this as >this is only a radio edit? And I wouldn't mind a copy) > >- There's a track on the album Nani Nani by Dekoboko Hajime called Bad >Hawkwind > >- A cover version of Silver Machine by Payola/Sissies/Smoke Blow on the 10" >album The Good, The Bad And The Ugly > >That's enough crap...looks like Labour have done it again...time for bed... > >MfG / Regards > >Sebastian Welton - sebastian at welton.de >************************************** >www.welton.de +++++++ 0049 171 8880522 From bwaje at CLARANET.FR Fri Jun 8 08:44:54 2001 From: bwaje at CLARANET.FR (bwaje) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:44:54 +0200 Subject: HW: Bored while watching the election online In-Reply-To: <200106081219.IAA11928@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Everyone should lobby film directors, hollywood, cineccitta and indian studios to use HW in their soundtracks; let's start with John Woo, The Coen Bros. Wallace & Gromit authors Wim Venders and Ry Cooder to make a documentary... Olivier At 08:19 08/06/2001 -0400, you wrote: >I was half-watching a late night kung-fu film on satellite tv once. During >one of the fight scenes I noticed that the backgound music was >from 'Pictures at an Exhibition' by Isao Tomita (One of my favourite >musicians). That was unusual enough. This was then imediately followed >by 'Masters of the Universe' by Hawkwind. By this time I was checking to >see if my hi-fi had come on by accident or someone else was playing it in >the house. Freaked me right out. > >Alastair. > >On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:56:05 +0200, Sebastian Welton >wrote: > > >While watching the count come I decided to trawl the web looking for > >Hawkwind and related stuff that doesn't seem to have been mentioned here: > > > >- Hawkwind (along with Abba) were used as the soundtrack to a > >Swedish/Danish/Italian film called Tillsammans directed by Lukas Moodysson > >in 2000 (I think I might have seen this actually) > > > >- There's a very nice poster called Fantasy by Peter Pracownik based on > >Hawkwind (DM23 from www.poster.de) > > > >- There are 2 Burg Herzberg CD's available of which the first contains > >Hawkwind playing Love In Space (also includes Gong, Guru Guru, Faust, etc.) > > > >- There's a 700W horn system (at DM13,340) and a 1800W bass reflex speaker > >(at DM5,742) under the model range Hawkwind and there' a PA system called > >Hawkwind > > > >- You can get a nice poster of the line-up of the Hot Rock Night festival > >(1973) featuring Hawkwind and others (from www.rockart.de) > > > >- Jimmy Cauty (he of KLF fame) released a remake of Silver Machine calling > >himself Scourge Of The Earth which is available on the I Don't Know What >You > >Want But I Can't Give It Any More sampler (any other versions of this as > >this is only a radio edit? And I wouldn't mind a copy) > > > >- There's a track on the album Nani Nani by Dekoboko Hajime called Bad > >Hawkwind > > > >- A cover version of Silver Machine by Payola/Sissies/Smoke Blow on the 10" > >album The Good, The Bad And The Ugly > > > >That's enough crap...looks like Labour have done it again...time for bed... > > > >MfG / Regards > > > >Sebastian Welton - sebastian at welton.de > >************************************** > >www.welton.de +++++++ 0049 171 8880522 Olivier Boigey www.bwaje.com Hawkzone The stars are matter, we are matter, but it doesn't matter - Don Van Vliet From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jun 8 08:51:51 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:51:51 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion In-Reply-To: <3B207EB8.24597.111DE1@localhost> Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: => '...Ah feel yer pain...' But you guys on the other side of the pond got => the new Monster Magnet a month or so before we did, and our => version doesn't include the best song they did, 'Down in the Jungle...' I picked up _God Says No_ last week in the used bins. Mine says on the back it includes a bonus track, "Silver Future." Does this mean the USA version has that but the European one doesn't? I noticed one bizarre thing when buying it. There were three copies in the bin, and one of them was the "clean version." "Monster Magnet clean version" seems the ultimate oxymoron to me. I never knew they pandered to that loathesome practice. The only apparent thing to differentiate the two versions outwardly was the presence of the "Parental Advisory, Explicit Content" label in the bottom right of the "unclean" version. Luckily, the Record Exchange had thoughtfully put a hand-written "This is the clean version" warning sticker on the front of the "clean" copy. I would probably have missed this had it not been pointed out. I have to admit, I was a might intrigued at what a "cleaned up" Monster Magnet album might sound like. Do they just bleep out the naughty bits, or do they actually record different lyrics (kind of like how they heavy-handedly dub "clean" words over "unclean" ones in films, and hope the audience doesn't notice the mouth is saying something entirely different to what is emitting:)? However, even $3 seemed a bit steep at the time... :-) For those that don't know, I believe this "clean version" bandwagon got started by huge retailers like Wal-Mart, who wanted to maintain the facade of a good, wholesome "family friendly" image (whilst sticking it to those same families by destroying their local small businesses >:). As for the album itself, I enjoyed it well enough, but it seemed very slick and mellower compared to previous outings. I got the impression Dave was trying to expand musically into the mainstream. But, I'm a _Spine of God_ and _25.....Tab_ fanatic, so feel free to ignore all that. However, I much prefer the direction Ed Mundell is taking in his solo project (even if it might be less original) to the current Monster Magnet. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 8 08:54:53 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 07:54:53 -0500 Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion Message-ID: Maybe dave is mellowing out because he's not stoned anymore. If so, I sure hope he doesn't go in the direction of dave mustaine.STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Paul Mather [mailto:paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:52 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: => '...Ah feel yer pain...' But you guys on the other side of the pond got => the new Monster Magnet a month or so before we did, and our => version doesn't include the best song they did, 'Down in the Jungle...' I picked up _God Says No_ last week in the used bins. Mine says on the back it includes a bonus track, "Silver Future." Does this mean the USA version has that but the European one doesn't? I noticed one bizarre thing when buying it. There were three copies in the bin, and one of them was the "clean version." "Monster Magnet clean version" seems the ultimate oxymoron to me. I never knew they pandered to that loathesome practice. The only apparent thing to differentiate the two versions outwardly was the presence of the "Parental Advisory, Explicit Content" label in the bottom right of the "unclean" version. Luckily, the Record Exchange had thoughtfully put a hand-written "This is the clean version" warning sticker on the front of the "clean" copy. I would probably have missed this had it not been pointed out. I have to admit, I was a might intrigued at what a "cleaned up" Monster Magnet album might sound like. Do they just bleep out the naughty bits, or do they actually record different lyrics (kind of like how they heavy-handedly dub "clean" words over "unclean" ones in films, and hope the audience doesn't notice the mouth is saying something entirely different to what is emitting:)? However, even $3 seemed a bit steep at the time... :-) For those that don't know, I believe this "clean version" bandwagon got started by huge retailers like Wal-Mart, who wanted to maintain the facade of a good, wholesome "family friendly" image (whilst sticking it to those same families by destroying their local small businesses >:). As for the album itself, I enjoyed it well enough, but it seemed very slick and mellower compared to previous outings. I got the impression Dave was trying to expand musically into the mainstream. But, I'm a _Spine of God_ and _25.....Tab_ fanatic, so feel free to ignore all that. However, I much prefer the direction Ed Mundell is taking in his solo project (even if it might be less original) to the current Monster Magnet. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jun 8 09:02:19 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:02:19 EDT Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8 Jun 2001, at 8:51, Paul Mather wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: > > => '...Ah feel yer pain...' But you guys on the other side of the pond > got => the new Monster Magnet a month or so before we did, and our => > version doesn't include the best song they did, 'Down in the > Jungle...' > > I picked up _God Says No_ last week in the used bins. Mine says on > the back it includes a bonus track, "Silver Future." Does this mean > the USA version has that but the European one doesn't? > I'm pretty sure the euro version does include Silver Future... >> As for the album itself, I enjoyed it well enough, but it seemed very > slick and mellower compared to previous outings. I got the impression > Dave was trying to expand musically into the mainstream. But, I'm a > _Spine of God_ and _25.....Tab_ fanatic, so feel free to ignore all > that. However, I much prefer the direction Ed Mundell is taking in > his solo project (even if it might be less original) to the current > Monster Magnet. > I prefer Dopes to Infinity to Powertrip, but I like God Says No the best of all. I actually prefer the slicker sound. Dopes does feature some excellent Tony Iommi-inspired guitar work that borders on plagiarism--not that that's a bad thing, mind you! From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jun 8 09:08:35 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:08:35 EDT Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A0AF@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: On 8 Jun 2001, at 7:54, Stephen Lindas wrote: > Maybe dave is mellowing out because he's not stoned anymore. If so, I > sure hope he doesn't go in the direction of dave mustaine.STEPHE No shit? Dave's on the wagon? Sad to hear. I doubt there's any chance DW will wind up like Mustaine. Wyndorf's got way too good a sense of humor... theo From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 8 09:35:21 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:05:21 +0930 Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion Message-ID: How do you know Dave doesn't get stoned anymore? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:24 PM Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion > Maybe dave is mellowing out because he's not stoned anymore. If so, I sure > hope he doesn't go in the direction of dave mustaine.STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Mather [mailto:paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU] > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:52 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion > > > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: > > => '...Ah feel yer pain...' But you guys on the other side of the pond got > => the new Monster Magnet a month or so before we did, and our > => version doesn't include the best song they did, 'Down in the Jungle...' > > I picked up _God Says No_ last week in the used bins. Mine says on the > back it includes a bonus track, "Silver Future." Does this mean the USA > version has that but the European one doesn't? > > I noticed one bizarre thing when buying it. There were three copies in > the bin, and one of them was the "clean version." "Monster Magnet clean > version" seems the ultimate oxymoron to me. I never knew they pandered > to that loathesome practice. The only apparent thing to differentiate > the two versions outwardly was the presence of the "Parental Advisory, > Explicit Content" label in the bottom right of the "unclean" version. > Luckily, the Record Exchange had thoughtfully put a hand-written "This > is the clean version" warning sticker on the front of the "clean" copy. > I would probably have missed this had it not been pointed out. > > I have to admit, I was a might intrigued at what a "cleaned up" Monster > Magnet album might sound like. Do they just bleep out the naughty bits, > or do they actually record different lyrics (kind of like how they > heavy-handedly dub "clean" words over "unclean" ones in films, and hope > the audience doesn't notice the mouth is saying something entirely > different to what is emitting:)? However, even $3 seemed a bit steep at > the time... :-) > > For those that don't know, I believe this "clean version" bandwagon got > started by huge retailers like Wal-Mart, who wanted to maintain the > facade of a good, wholesome "family friendly" image (whilst sticking it > to those same families by destroying their local small businesses >:). > > As for the album itself, I enjoyed it well enough, but it seemed very > slick and mellower compared to previous outings. I got the impression > Dave was trying to expand musically into the mainstream. But, I'm a > _Spine of God_ and _25.....Tab_ fanatic, so feel free to ignore all > that. However, I much prefer the direction Ed Mundell is taking in his > solo project (even if it might be less original) to the current Monster > Magnet. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 8 09:24:40 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:24:40 -0500 Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion Message-ID: Maybe he's just trying to be more professional. Dave mustaine used to be so cool. Dave wyndorfs been sober a couple years now i think. I don't even remember where I heard this. I think it was in a local rag that interviewed him on the powertrip tour. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Ted Jackson [mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:09 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion On 8 Jun 2001, at 7:54, Stephen Lindas wrote: > Maybe dave is mellowing out because he's not stoned anymore. If so, I > sure hope he doesn't go in the direction of dave mustaine.STEPHE No shit? Dave's on the wagon? Sad to hear. I doubt there's any chance DW will wind up like Mustaine. Wyndorf's got way too good a sense of humor... theo From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 8 09:27:24 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:27:24 -0500 Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion Message-ID: HE Admitted it in an interview unless he was lying!! STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:35 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion How do you know Dave doesn't get stoned anymore? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:24 PM Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion > Maybe dave is mellowing out because he's not stoned anymore. If so, I sure > hope he doesn't go in the direction of dave mustaine.STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Mather [mailto:paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU] > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:52 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion > > > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: > > => '...Ah feel yer pain...' But you guys on the other side of the pond got > => the new Monster Magnet a month or so before we did, and our > => version doesn't include the best song they did, 'Down in the Jungle...' > > I picked up _God Says No_ last week in the used bins. Mine says on the > back it includes a bonus track, "Silver Future." Does this mean the USA > version has that but the European one doesn't? > > I noticed one bizarre thing when buying it. There were three copies in > the bin, and one of them was the "clean version." "Monster Magnet clean > version" seems the ultimate oxymoron to me. I never knew they pandered > to that loathesome practice. The only apparent thing to differentiate > the two versions outwardly was the presence of the "Parental Advisory, > Explicit Content" label in the bottom right of the "unclean" version. > Luckily, the Record Exchange had thoughtfully put a hand-written "This > is the clean version" warning sticker on the front of the "clean" copy. > I would probably have missed this had it not been pointed out. > > I have to admit, I was a might intrigued at what a "cleaned up" Monster > Magnet album might sound like. Do they just bleep out the naughty bits, > or do they actually record different lyrics (kind of like how they > heavy-handedly dub "clean" words over "unclean" ones in films, and hope > the audience doesn't notice the mouth is saying something entirely > different to what is emitting:)? However, even $3 seemed a bit steep at > the time... :-) > > For those that don't know, I believe this "clean version" bandwagon got > started by huge retailers like Wal-Mart, who wanted to maintain the > facade of a good, wholesome "family friendly" image (whilst sticking it > to those same families by destroying their local small businesses >:). > > As for the album itself, I enjoyed it well enough, but it seemed very > slick and mellower compared to previous outings. I got the impression > Dave was trying to expand musically into the mainstream. But, I'm a > _Spine of God_ and _25.....Tab_ fanatic, so feel free to ignore all > that. However, I much prefer the direction Ed Mundell is taking in his > solo project (even if it might be less original) to the current Monster > Magnet. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Thu Jun 7 11:58:26 2001 From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:58:26 +0100 Subject: off - lend a hand - off Message-ID: [Message 052287 deleted by moderator at the author's request] From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jun 8 09:45:26 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:45:26 EDT Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A0B0@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: On 8 Jun 2001, at 8:24, Stephen Lindas wrote: > Maybe he's just trying to be more professional. Dave mustaine used to > be so cool. Dave wyndorfs been sober a couple years now i think. I > don't even remember where I heard this. I think it was in a local rag > that interviewed him on the powertrip tour. STEPHE > Well, maybe there's hope for sobriety after all! theo From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 8 09:42:45 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:42:45 -0500 Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion Message-ID: Theres nothing wrong with being sober. It does change peoples views on life. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Ted Jackson [mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:45 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion On 8 Jun 2001, at 8:24, Stephen Lindas wrote: > Maybe he's just trying to be more professional. Dave mustaine used to > be so cool. Dave wyndorfs been sober a couple years now i think. I > don't even remember where I heard this. I think it was in a local rag > that interviewed him on the powertrip tour. STEPHE > Well, maybe there's hope for sobriety after all! theo From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Fri Jun 8 10:08:21 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:08:21 +1200 Subject: Circle/Paul Chain/Payola In-Reply-To: <200106080900.FAA11533@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >Beard of Stars - get it (and Circle/Pharaoh Overlord) from www.cranium.co.nz - hi Richard -is my payola in the mail? Yep I hear the payola these days consists of rubber duckies, tickets to "My Fair Lady", a slow death by eating at McDonalds for a month and frequent flyer points to the next speech given by Bush. If I were me ... no no ... if you were me ... nope ... if I were you (don't you love the English language)I'd skip the payola and take the bag. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 8 10:19:37 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:49:37 +0930 Subject: Circle/Paul Chain/Payola Message-ID: A bag of what Richard ?? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Stockwell To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 11:38 PM Subject: Re: Circle/Paul Chain/Payola > >Beard of Stars - get it (and Circle/Pharaoh > Overlord) from www.cranium.co.nz - hi Richard -is my payola in the mail? > > Yep I hear the payola these days consists of rubber duckies, tickets to "My > Fair Lady", a slow death by eating at McDonalds for a month and frequent > flyer points to the next speech given by Bush. If I were me ... no no ... if > you were me ... nope ... if I were you (don't you love the English > language)I'd skip the payola and take the bag. > > Regards > > Richard > Cranium Music > http://www.cranium.co.nz > http://www.cranium-music.com > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 8 10:20:26 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:50:26 +0930 Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion Message-ID: Our Dave doesn't lie - we all know that - so there it is Thanks Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:57 PM Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion > HE Admitted it in an interview unless he was lying!! STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:35 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion > > > How do you know Dave doesn't get stoned anymore? > > Mb > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Lindas > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:24 PM > Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion > > > > Maybe dave is mellowing out because he's not stoned anymore. If so, I sure > > hope he doesn't go in the direction of dave mustaine.STEPHE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul Mather [mailto:paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU] > > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:52 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion > > > > > > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: > > > > => '...Ah feel yer pain...' But you guys on the other side of the pond got > > => the new Monster Magnet a month or so before we did, and our > > => version doesn't include the best song they did, 'Down in the Jungle...' > > > > I picked up _God Says No_ last week in the used bins. Mine says on the > > back it includes a bonus track, "Silver Future." Does this mean the USA > > version has that but the European one doesn't? > > > > I noticed one bizarre thing when buying it. There were three copies in > > the bin, and one of them was the "clean version." "Monster Magnet clean > > version" seems the ultimate oxymoron to me. I never knew they pandered > > to that loathesome practice. The only apparent thing to differentiate > > the two versions outwardly was the presence of the "Parental Advisory, > > Explicit Content" label in the bottom right of the "unclean" version. > > Luckily, the Record Exchange had thoughtfully put a hand-written "This > > is the clean version" warning sticker on the front of the "clean" copy. > > I would probably have missed this had it not been pointed out. > > > > I have to admit, I was a might intrigued at what a "cleaned up" Monster > > Magnet album might sound like. Do they just bleep out the naughty bits, > > or do they actually record different lyrics (kind of like how they > > heavy-handedly dub "clean" words over "unclean" ones in films, and hope > > the audience doesn't notice the mouth is saying something entirely > > different to what is emitting:)? However, even $3 seemed a bit steep at > > the time... :-) > > > > For those that don't know, I believe this "clean version" bandwagon got > > started by huge retailers like Wal-Mart, who wanted to maintain the > > facade of a good, wholesome "family friendly" image (whilst sticking it > > to those same families by destroying their local small businesses >:). > > > > As for the album itself, I enjoyed it well enough, but it seemed very > > slick and mellower compared to previous outings. I got the impression > > Dave was trying to expand musically into the mainstream. But, I'm a > > _Spine of God_ and _25.....Tab_ fanatic, so feel free to ignore all > > that. However, I much prefer the direction Ed Mundell is taking in his > > solo project (even if it might be less original) to the current Monster > > Magnet. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Paul. > > > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > > From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Fri Jun 8 10:15:09 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:15:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Bristol 31/10/82 Message-ID: The discs for the Bristol 31/10/82 show have reached me (thanks Bill Knispel, CDs arrived safe and sound today) and will be on their way to Alasdair Macdonald early next week. Cheers, Mark NP: Simon House' Yassassim From micci at SCI.FI Fri Jun 8 12:28:57 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:28:57 +0300 Subject: was RE: calvert question, now OFF: Circle Message-ID: I live here in finland and had not never here these titles, so thanks for this info. Tomorrow will be my shopping day :-) Last Circle gig was really great. It?s was like mini space ritual universe. NP:lehtisalofamily- interplay (ektro-003) btw. circles meronia vinyl contains one song which is vinyl version only. It?s call low-pursed >>P.P.S. So far this week my (snail)mailbox has disgorged Circle - Taantumus, >Oh, so the 'new one' Richard was talking about is really the new one that >Jussi had sent me before (seeing that Taantumus is Track 9 on what I have). >How do you like that "Lyhytaallosta" track...awesome, eh? > >Who has released this one? Metamorphos is gone, so I guess Ektro (Jussi's >label). Is it/will it be on tUMULt here in the US as well? I guess I will >have to find out. > >>Pharaoh Overlord - #1, and Fluorescent Tunnelvision (includes Circle, >>Ektroverde, and Tree Sine)... whew, I'm Finnished... > >All good stuff though. Haven't heard Pharaoh Overlord yet though. Wonder >why Frustram Quartet didn't make it on that one. > >Grakkl (FAA) > Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.sci.fi/~micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jun 8 12:53:19 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:53:19 -0700 Subject: OFF: ST 37 news Message-ID: Not sure if there's any list folk in Austin, but this event is (obviously) a VERY worthy cause ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:43:29 -0700 (PDT) >From: Scott Telles >Subject: ST 37 news >To: scotttelles at yahoo.com >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1524725896-991975409=:27211" > >Hello all! > > I wanted to draw your attention to a very special event this Sunday: > >A Benefit for the Roky Erickson Trust > >June 10 > >The Red Eyed Fly > >709 Red River, Austin TX > >Winslow (9.30) > >ST 37 (10.30) > >Pong (11.30) > >Please try to come out and support this very worthy cause. Roky is >receiving treatment for the first time in years and is doing better >already but needs some financial help to get through this difficult time. >All the bands have special Roky-related surprises for you musically as well! > >In other ST 37 news, be on the lookout in July for the release of the new >Pip Proud CD "A Yellow Flower" on Emperor Jones records. ST 37 is featured >on the track "Good Time". This is one of Pip's finest efforts! Other >musicians on the CD include Alastair Galbraith and Tom Carter of Charalambides. > > > >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Personal >Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jun 8 13:36:19 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:36:19 +0100 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A07A@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > I just got a recording of CALVERTS--KID FROM SILICON GULCH. Is this rare? > Anyone know how many times this was performed? STEPHE Now, ordinarily I'm slow to suggest things like this, but for heaven's sake let's tree this thing. I didn't even know it was recorded and if I could adequately decsribe how much I'd like to hear it I'd blow all your mailboxes. What format have you got it in? What's the quality like? Questions questions a thousand questions! [1]. Yours, Jon [1] Bonus points for anyone who spots that one :-) ObCD: Monster Magnet - _Dopes to Infinity_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jun 8 13:55:03 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:55:03 +0100 Subject: BOC: SFG & recycled riffs? In-Reply-To: <200106071753.SAA01110@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, bart wrote: > I dunno about CotHM - maybe I'll pick it up sometime, but I'm sure glad I > nabbed a copy of the Rhino SFG remaster disc. Great job by Rhino, but the real > star is the playing on some of the tracks - it sounds so accomplished ! I really like this CD. Some of it is absolutely beautiful, the jamming mostly. Al's drumming and Buck's guitar make it very much a band of two virtuosos; I don't really notice Alan. Winters wasn't bad either was he? And the lyrics are mostly genius. John Shirley please take note. One thing that does strike me though is how much their songwriting imporved with age. The only songs I find really memorable for their structure or tune are `Gil Blanco County' and `What is Quicksand'. `St Cecilia' and `Arthur Comics' on the other hand have almost no shape to them. I don't think it's bad, quite the reverse, but they really did put songs together better as BOC. I'm not sorry BOC came about however good this disc is, basically :-) > A question though. While I'm listening to the songs, a few parts sounded > really familiar, like they were subsequently used on BOC songs. > The main one that springs to mind is the killer lead break @ 2.00 into Curse > of the Hidden Mirror - has Buck slotted that into one of his extended live > solos or am I mistaken ? The other part was the outro to Gil Blanco County > maybe ? My copy's at home, but I heard the opening chords of `Baby Ice Dog' about halfway through the first album's worth last time I played it, somewhere... Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jun 8 14:06:32 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:06:32 +0100 Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D904AAA6BB@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 4 May 2001, Sam Kirwan wrote: > If u know 1 I'd be amazed - there are no men like that - they don't have the > genetic make up for it - they have the genes for plenty of other fun stuff - > a woman could not have conceived Hawkwind for instance - but looking after > more than themselves.......... > > (No offence lads - we luv u dearly for what u r) This has been hanging round my INBOX for more than a month now, and I'm still not exactly happy about it. This may have something to do with the fact that I've been kind of busy looking after a near bed-ridden girlfriend and still-perfectly-healthy toddler whilst trying to keep a part-time job and part-time Ph.D. running at the same time. And that Bedouin gig happened in there too. So might I gently suggest that there are more (wo)men in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your generalisation, which despite your happy little disclaimer I still find pretty offensive. I know some pretty good female-led tripper bands too. Maybe you could have a fresh take at your gendertyping. Yours, Jon > -----Original Message----- > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > Sent: 03 May 2001 21:53 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - > ooooopppsy's > > Ha!! Ha!! That's good! > I don't know many blokes that could do it!!! > > Layla -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 14:13:27 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:13:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: Teapots over London.... Gong at the RFH Message-ID: GONG - UK Tour, October/November UK tour starts with a very special London gig with the Orb and Acid Temple Mothers at the Royal Festival Hall. And as an added bonus this will be one of those rare, but oh so wonderful occasions when both Didier and Theo will both be in the band. Wednesday 3rd Oct - London, Royal Festival Hall, tel 0207 960 4242 Info: http://www.rfh.org.uk ---------------------------------- I'm going. Who else? -- Nick Medford From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Fri Jun 8 14:14:29 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:14:29 -0400 Subject: BOC: SFG & recycled riffs? Message-ID: > I really like this CD. Some of it is absolutely beautiful, the >jamming mostly. Al's drumming and Buck's guitar make it very >much a band of two virtuosos; I don't really notice Alan. Winters wasn't bad either >was he? And the lyrics are mostly genius. John Shirley please take note. The biggest difference between BOC lyrical direction and SFG/70s BOC is that Shirley doesn't like to be enigmatic in his words--he's a story tellin' kinda joe, which when you think (or at least when I did when I read this email), fits in perfectly to the kind of songs that Buck likes writing. -- think Deadline,Reaper,Shooting Shark,etc... etc.. > One thing that does strike me though is how much their >songwriting imporved with age. The only songs I find really memorable for their >structure or tune are `Gil Blanco County' and `What is Quicksand'. `St >Cecilia' and `Arthur Comics' on the other hand have almost no shape to >them. I don't think it's bad, quite the reverse, but they >really did put >songs together better as BOC. I'm not sorry BOC came about however good >this disc is, basically :-) INdividually, thats true too -- case in point Bucks better buckpop since Flat Out and Last Days of May, not to mention the prolific output of Albert B. on his solo endeavours -- I'm going to see tBS gig tonight in NYC. Review will be coming. ROCK OUT! If you compare the studio Workshop of the Telescopes to what came out on the "live bootleg" promo, they're competly different -- very tight song structure and a pre-figured, non jamming solo (but on the live one, Lanier's kybds. do some fun contrapuntal moves)Then again, they channelled their jamming into songs like Bucks Boogie, I ain't got you (well, the end of that one), the ends of D and S,Flaming Telepaths, the five man guitar freakouts in live ME 262 and... dang! what was the other tunes they did that to?, 7 screaming DBs, and any song where the end is faded out in the studio. mailing lists-look productive in writing to one with out all the hassles of the Man! Jason From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jun 8 14:24:03 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:24:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree at Shepherd's Bush Empire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 12 May 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > Anyone else go to this? I know a number of boc-l'ers who were musing on > the idea of going, don't know if anyone did. I did mean to but in the end there wasn't the money; I'd already had to go to London once that week and I don't make that much at the moment. Ah well. > Got there rather late, caught the end of the support band's set (who were > they?) which closed with a faithful-but-dull cover of "Comfortably Numb"- > hardly an adventurous choice in this setting. Well, apart from the risk of breathing the name Pink Floyd anywhere near Steven Wilson :-) > Seemed like a long wait for PT, I must give a mention to the extremely > minimalist hypnotic electro played through the PA - very effective, no idea > what it was. Finally Wilson and co. take the stage, I won't attempt to list > the whole set as much of it was unfamiliar to me, but overall impressions: > the loud instrumental passages are always good and sometimes quite brilliant: > the band play with tremendous power and- praise be!- manage to do this > without sacrificing clarity of sound. Aside from SW's excellent, varied lead > guitar work, I was particularly impressed by the bassist who really motored > some of the trancier passages along, and whenever the band when into > psychedelic freakout mode they showed great use of rhythm. Colin Edwin really shows himself well live. Steve's bass-playing isn't as interesting but it's what's used to write the songs. `The Sky Moves Sideways' particularly has a lot more life to it live because of this. Has anyone investigated Colin's side project The Ex-Wise Heads? > I'm still unconvinced by the lighter side of PT's music: in particular, an > "acoustic interlude" where they played "Pure Narcotic" and one other left > me pretty cold. I dunno: with that sugar-coated, West Coast-style stuff, I > can appreciate the skill and the way the songs are crafted, but it just does > nothing for me. In addition, Wilson isn't quite the songwriter he perhaps > imagines himself to be: after all, if you want to make it as a bard of angst, > there's some pretty tough competition to live up to. His lyrics aren't _bad_ > exactly, but feel predictable, rarely inspired. Ach, they did this sort of singles hour bit the last time I saw them. Porcupine Tree's singles, bar the last two which were OK, are generally nothing special. Sticking them all together in the set while Steven jangles away on an acosutic and Colin and Richard stand with their arms folded only goes to emphasise this to my way of thinking, I wish they'd stop. In fact I wish he'd stop writing them and get back to the exploratory psych. But enough of that. I do rather like _Lightbulb Sun_, more so than _Stupid Dream_. > But the weaker moments were far outweighed by the good-to-great: a > pounding "Up The Downstair" with irresistible rolling bassline, the > extarordinary guitar meltdown of "Russia On Ice", and a blistering extended > "Signify" were some of the highlights. Best of all was the remarkable > rendition of "Voyage 34" - faster and rockier than the original and totally > hypnotic. > > So a fine gig overall, apparently it was being recorded for a live album so > expect that to be the next PT release. Hmph. I'd rather more studio material first. I suppose three albums would be enough for some people but the coverage will be too similar to _Coma Divine_ I reckon. > One thing that struck me was that they do inhabit a world closer to the > mainstream than most other bands I would go and see. SW had a pop at > boy-bands, Britney Spears et al by way of introducing "Hate Song", and > while one couldn't argue with what he said, it struck me that one would > never hear Dave Brock bothering to make such obvious observations: > Hawkwind aren't even in the same cosmos as chart-fodder, it just wouldn't > be relevant. Still the crowd (average age rather less than at a HW gig!) > cheered anyway. He's never hidden that he'd like to make money from music. I guess he figures these are the people stopping him doing it... Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 14:31:46 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:31:46 +0100 Subject: OTHER: Steve Hillage vinyl for sale Message-ID: I'm trying to make some space on the record shelves and I found the following two 12" records which were PRODUCED by Steve Hillage: Dubh Chapter: Touch & Go / Hibiscus Town / Sleep & Be Thankful / Touch & Go (7" edit) Dubh Chapter: Happy Is The Bride (extended mix) / Who Decides? / Happy Is The Bride / Pain (Is A Warning). Both have a date on them of 1990, and have been hardly played. I'm looking for a nice easy option here, ?5 for both inc P&P to UK, else ?6 to Europe, else ?7 ROW. Apologies for waste of bandwidth; replies OFF-LIST please (I won't see them if they go to the list as "OTHER". Alasdair From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 8 14:44:05 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:44:05 -0500 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WOULD WANT ME TO DO A TREE HERE? Only thing is I can't burn cd's in large quantity. My reciever is from the 70's and isn't very compatable with modern components. I'm usually a cassette only guy. This is on a maxell XL2 110min tape. The quality is around 7 out of 10. It maybe 8, but there is some distortion on the songs. It is the whole performance going by the tracklist. 11 tracks total. It is from theatrespace LONDON 5/1/81. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:36 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > I just got a recording of CALVERTS--KID FROM SILICON GULCH. Is this rare? > Anyone know how many times this was performed? STEPHE Now, ordinarily I'm slow to suggest things like this, but for heaven's sake let's tree this thing. I didn't even know it was recorded and if I could adequately decsribe how much I'd like to hear it I'd blow all your mailboxes. What format have you got it in? What's the quality like? Questions questions a thousand questions! [1]. Yours, Jon [1] Bonus points for anyone who spots that one :-) ObCD: Monster Magnet - _Dopes to Infinity_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Jun 8 15:14:50 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:14:50 +0100 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: I have a program guide for this show somewhere, complete with lyrics. Maybe you should include it in the artwork? ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:44 PM Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WOULD WANT ME TO DO A TREE HERE? Only thing is I > can't burn cd's in large quantity. My reciever is from the 70's and isn't > very compatable with modern components. I'm usually a cassette only guy. > This is on a maxell XL2 110min tape. The quality is around 7 out of 10. It > maybe 8, but there is some distortion on the songs. It is the whole > performance going by the tracklist. 11 tracks total. It is from theatrespace > LONDON 5/1/81. CHEERS STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:36 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > > > I just got a recording of CALVERTS--KID FROM SILICON GULCH. Is this rare? > > Anyone know how many times this was performed? STEPHE > > Now, ordinarily I'm slow to suggest things like this, but for > heaven's sake let's tree this thing. I didn't even know it was recorded > and if I could adequately decsribe how much I'd like to hear it I'd blow > all your mailboxes. What format have you got it in? What's the quality > like? Questions questions a thousand questions! explosion and flames in left channel>[1]. Yours, > Jon > > [1] Bonus points for anyone who spots that one :-) > ObCD: Monster Magnet - _Dopes to Infinity_ > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Fri Jun 8 15:20:48 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:20:48 +0200 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A0BD@hermes.marketday. com> Message-ID: >HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WOULD WANT ME TO DO A TREE HERE? Only thing is I >can't burn cd's in large quantity. My reciever is from the 70's and isn't >very compatable with modern components. I'm usually a cassette only guy. >This is on a maxell XL2 110min tape. The quality is around 7 out of 10. It >maybe 8, but there is some distortion on the songs. It is the whole >performance going by the tracklist. 11 tracks total. It is from theatrespace >LONDON 5/1/81. CHEERS STEPHE yes i'm interested in that tree but only on cdr. andre >-----Original Message----- >From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] >Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:36 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > > >On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > > > I just got a recording of CALVERTS--KID FROM SILICON GULCH. Is this rare? > > Anyone know how many times this was performed? STEPHE > > Now, ordinarily I'm slow to suggest things like this, but for >heaven's sake let's tree this thing. I didn't even know it was recorded >and if I could adequately decsribe how much I'd like to hear it I'd blow >all your mailboxes. What format have you got it in? What's the quality >like? Questions questions a thousand questions! explosion and flames in left channel>[1]. Yours, > Jon > >[1] Bonus points for anyone who spots that one :-) >ObCD: Monster Magnet - _Dopes to Infinity_ >-- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 15:23:36 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:23:36 -0400 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: Stephe, I could transfer it to CDR and remaster it to improve the sound quality. COLIN From sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 16:58:12 2001 From: sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:58:12 +0100 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > >HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WOULD WANT ME TO DO A TREE HERE? Only thing is I > >can't burn cd's in large quantity. My reciever is from the 70's and isn't > >very compatable with modern components. I'm usually a cassette only guy. > >This is on a maxell XL2 110min tape. The quality is around 7 out of 10. It > >maybe 8, but there is some distortion on the songs. It is the whole > >performance going by the tracklist. 11 tracks total. It is from theatrespace > >LONDON 5/1/81. CHEERS STEPHE > > yes i'm interested in that tree but only on cdr. Another one here! si From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 17:07:06 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:07:06 +0100 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH In-Reply-To: <005b01c0f05d$dd6b5ec0$0100a8c0@kermitz> Message-ID: In article <005b01c0f05d$dd6b5ec0$0100a8c0 at kermitz>, Si Halley writes >Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > > >> >HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WOULD WANT ME TO DO A TREE HERE? Only thing is >I >> >can't burn cd's in large quantity. My reciever is from the 70's and isn't >> >very compatable with modern components. I'm usually a cassette only guy. >> >This is on a maxell XL2 110min tape. The quality is around 7 out of 10. >It >> >maybe 8, but there is some distortion on the songs. It is the whole >> >performance going by the tracklist. 11 tracks total. It is from >theatrespace >> >LONDON 5/1/81. CHEERS STEPHE >> >> yes i'm interested in that tree but only on cdr. > >Another one here! And another -- David Blair From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 17:24:44 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:24:44 -0400 Subject: OFF: Teapots over London.... Gong at the RFH Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:13:27 +0100, Nick Medford wrote: >GONG - UK Tour, October/November >UK tour starts with a very special London gig with the Orb and Acid >Temple Mothers at the Royal Festival Hall. And as an added bonus this >will be one of those rare, but oh so wonderful occasions when both >Didier and Theo will both be in the band. > >Wednesday 3rd Oct - London, Royal Festival Hall, tel 0207 960 4242 >Info: http://www.rfh.org.uk >---------------------------------- > >I'm going. Who else? >-- >Nick Medford I'm there already! Alastair. From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Jun 8 17:34:50 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:34:50 EDT Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: I would love to be in on any tree for the Silicon Gulch recording. This sounds extra cool. A real archival treasure. Do I sound excited. Excitedly yours, Eli Friedman From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Fri Jun 8 17:43:15 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:43:15 +0200 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH In-Reply-To: <5QnmOVA65TI7EwDE@puddytat.fsnet.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi, > >Another one here! >And another And here! (c)IAO D+R From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jun 8 19:15:03 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (just me) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:15:03 -0600 Subject: OFF: ST 37 news In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.1.20010608095116.00ad5c10@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: Doug P: "Please try to come out and support this very worthy cause. Roky is receiving treatment for the first time in years and is doing better already but needs some financial help to get through this difficult time. All the bands have special Roky-related surprises for you musically as well!In other ST 37 news, be on the lookout in July for the release of the new Pip Proud CD "A Yellow Flower" on Emperor Jones records. ST 37 is featured on the track "Good Time". This is one of Pip's finest efforts! Other musicians on the CD include Alastair Galbraith and Tom Carter of Charalambides". my fried Pierre and I were at a record convention in Austin, and busily scouring for the odd nice Hawkwind LP, and there is Roky, trying to shop, but getting asked for autographs....... he systematically refused to sign any, 1 by 1, waving them off...... he "gravitated" himself to me and Pierre, as he could tell we were safe....... we talked and talked and he seemed so interested in US!!!!! so we went with him outside to wait for his mom to come get him........ mike c From chrisr at TIAC.NET Fri Jun 8 18:15:58 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:15:58 -0400 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: If this is tree'd. I would love to be a branch! Chris Stephen Lindas wrote: > > HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WOULD WANT ME TO DO A TREE HERE? Only thing is I > can't burn cd's in large quantity. My reciever is from the 70's and isn't > very compatable with modern components. I'm usually a cassette only guy. > This is on a maxell XL2 110min tape. The quality is around 7 out of 10. It > maybe 8, but there is some distortion on the songs. It is the whole > performance going by the tracklist. 11 tracks total. It is from theatrespace > LONDON 5/1/81. CHEERS STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:36 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > > > I just got a recording of CALVERTS--KID FROM SILICON GULCH. Is this rare? > > Anyone know how many times this was performed? STEPHE > > Now, ordinarily I'm slow to suggest things like this, but for > heaven's sake let's tree this thing. I didn't even know it was recorded > and if I could adequately decsribe how much I'd like to hear it I'd blow > all your mailboxes. What format have you got it in? What's the quality > like? Questions questions a thousand questions! explosion and flames in left channel>[1]. Yours, > Jon > > [1] Bonus points for anyone who spots that one :-) > ObCD: Monster Magnet - _Dopes to Infinity_ > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 18:19:10 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:19:10 +0100 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: My version exists on 2 x 60 minute tapes and I'm sure it's a copy but I don't know what generation it is. The quality is good but the venue sounds empty! I'm almost afraid to play my tapes in case they get damaged so I'd love a CD version of it! I'm sure I remember that a while ago somone decided to get a theatre group together and bring the play to a stage in London. But maybe it didn't work out. Something it would be fun to go and see though. Is anyone on the list into drama or know of an acting group who would be willing to do this? There's always the Edinburgh Festival Fringe if they wanted a venue and a potential audience! jill Happy to have a healthy computer again - it needed major transplant surgery 8-((( ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:44 PM Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WOULD WANT ME TO DO A TREE HERE? Only thing is I > can't burn cd's in large quantity. My reciever is from the 70's and isn't > very compatable with modern components. I'm usually a cassette only guy. > This is on a maxell XL2 110min tape. The quality is around 7 out of 10. It > maybe 8, but there is some distortion on the songs. It is the whole > performance going by the tracklist. 11 tracks total. It is from theatrespace > LONDON 5/1/81. CHEERS STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:36 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > > > I just got a recording of CALVERTS--KID FROM SILICON GULCH. Is this rare? > > Anyone know how many times this was performed? STEPHE > > Now, ordinarily I'm slow to suggest things like this, but for > heaven's sake let's tree this thing. I didn't even know it was recorded > and if I could adequately decsribe how much I'd like to hear it I'd blow > all your mailboxes. What format have you got it in? What's the quality > like? Questions questions a thousand questions! explosion and flames in left channel>[1]. Yours, > Jon > > [1] Bonus points for anyone who spots that one :-) > ObCD: Monster Magnet - _Dopes to Infinity_ > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ==================================================================== = > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" > From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 18:38:01 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:38:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Biro removal Message-ID: Hi, Has anyone ever come across an effective way of removing ball point pen markings from record labels? I'm hoping it will be easy with the correct liquid as the label is so thin that the pen hardly makes a groove in the label itself. Any 2nd record restorers out there? Jez From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 19:08:38 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:08:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: Teapots over London.... Gong at the RFH Message-ID: Me! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair Lee Sumner" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:24 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Teapots over London.... Gong at the RFH > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:13:27 +0100, Nick Medford > wrote: > > >GONG - UK Tour, October/November > >UK tour starts with a very special London gig with the Orb and Acid > >Temple Mothers at the Royal Festival Hall. And as an added bonus this > >will be one of those rare, but oh so wonderful occasions when both > >Didier and Theo will both be in the band. > > > >Wednesday 3rd Oct - London, Royal Festival Hall, tel 0207 960 4242 > >Info: http://www.rfh.org.uk > >---------------------------------- > > > >I'm going. Who else? > >-- > >Nick Medford > > I'm there already! > > Alastair. > From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 19:09:07 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:09:07 +0100 Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion In-Reply-To: <002101c0f026$2a811520$e0cb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: In message <002101c0f026$2a811520$e0cb223f at michaelangelo68>, Mich at el B writes >Our Dave doesn't lie - we all know that - so there it is I could be wrong but I have the impression there are crossed wires here. Michael: The "Dave" that everyone else was talking about, who apparently doesn't indulge any more, was Dave Wyndorf of Monster Magnet, not Baron Brock. Apologies if you knew that already. -- Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 19:11:30 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:11:30 +0100 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH In-Reply-To: <7c.16ee1eb6.28529efa@aol.com> Message-ID: In message <7c.16ee1eb6.28529efa at aol.com>, Eli Friedman writes >I would love to be in on any tree for the Silicon Gulch recording. This >sounds extra cool. >A real archival treasure. Do I sound excited. >Excitedly yours, Eli Friedman Me too, me too! Can't burn cdr's though I'm afraid, so I would have to be a humble leaf rather than a mighty branch. -- Nick Medford From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jun 8 20:16:39 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (just me) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:16:39 -0600 Subject: HW: Biro removal In-Reply-To: <006d01c0f06c$2bf6c260$ee04883e@jezd> Message-ID: Hi, Has anyone ever come across an effective way of removing ball point pen markings from record labels? I'm hoping it will be easy with the correct liquid as the label is so thin that the pen hardly makes a groove in the label itself.>Any 2nd record restorers out there? Jez aside from my usual art erasers, toothpicks, watercolor pens, pencils, q-tips, hypodermic needles(careful scraping in minute dot-by-dot surgery,), "goo-gone", paper tissues, towells, razor blades, etc...... of all things, names or initials on labels don't drive me to the edge of suicide like the LP covers do..... I hate finger-grease on my black RCA labels though.....ANYWAY,,,,were it me, I should think an intense and "terse" session of outright insanity with a combination of a q-tip, with some of it's cotton removed for acutenesss, combined with a tiny amount of a name brand label remover such as "Goo-Gone" (but there are others) would make a good point to start. Then small amounts of work with an art eraser(shaped like a pencil, that you shave to a tip), tiny scrapes with razor blade MAYBE, and a few prayers to your preferred higher power, may see it faded so much that it is acceptable....... the potential for "smear:" is what worries me...... no doubt the professional label remover is a good choice as this DOES remove ink quite nicely (it has lemon juice in it I believe),,,,,you could also rub it with a tissue with some of that on it in increments.....(combined with your own creativity/inventiveness of other applications,,,,, sounds frightening but reducible certainly........possibly eradicatible... ****LONG EXHALE*** PS -for those of you who ever need stickers off, and have never used label-remover,..,..you'll love it.......must have....much better than bic lighters, or dry peels..... P_SS--will a fairly large "MADE IN UK", or "MADE IN ENGLAND" sticker cover the area???? I fing that UK records often have had stickers with the country on the label/....Just a thought expulsion..... From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 19:31:07 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:31:07 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree at Shepherd's Bush Empire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Jon Jarrett writes > > Ach, they did this sort of singles hour bit the last time I saw >them. Porcupine Tree's singles, bar the last two which were OK, are >generally nothing special. Sticking them all together in the set while >Steven jangles away on an acosutic and Colin and Richard stand with their >arms folded only goes to emphasise this to my way of thinking, I wish >they'd stop. In fact I wish he'd stop writing them and get back to the >exploratory psych. Absolutely. He is far better at freakout music than he is at writing songs. Unfortunately I don't think he himself sees it that way. To be fair, I don't think many of his excitable young fans would agree with me or thee either. > But enough of that. I do rather like _Lightbulb Sun_, >more so than _Stupid Dream_. I beg to differ. I hadn't heard LS prior to the gig and bought it afterwards as I thought the songs from it sounded pretty good live. But I think it's by far the weakest PT album: the title track is great... perhaps the most successful fusion of psych and pop they've achieved, and the second half of Russia On Ice is very fine too, but everything else is average to downright crap IMO: "The Rest Will Flow" and "Where Would We Be" are two of the most embarrassingly sterile overblown neo-prog efforts I've heard in a long while. And as for "Last Chance..", fusing a lightweight love song with samples from the Heaven's Gate cult leader is just crass. It just doesn't work and he ends up looking like a schoolboy trying to shock. Whereas "Stupid Dream" has grown on me... there are some excellent tracks: Even Less, Slave Called Shiver, Baby Dream and Tinto Brass are all among their best. The weakest track is "Pure Narcotic" and even that is considerably better than some of the Lightbulb Sun stuff.... IMHO of course. The other thing is that the mournful lyrics and vocals, which were starting to wear a bit thin on Stupid Dream, blossom into total self-parody on LS. To call it sixth-form angst is almost too kind. However the next studio PT album will allegedly be darker, stranger and have more guitars, so it should be a good 'un. -- Nick Medford From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 19:45:33 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:45:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Bored while watching the election online In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010608143944.00afae00@pop.bwaje.com> Message-ID: I got the CD ep which was released as a promo only > I'd be willing to do you a copy... > >- Jimmy Cauty (he of KLF fame) released a remake of Silver Machine calling > >himself Scourge Of The Earth which is available on the I Don't Know What >You > >Want But I Can't Give It Any More sampler (any other versions of this as > >this is only a radio edit? And I wouldn't mind a copy) > > > >- The stars are matter, we are matter, but it doesn't matter - Don Van Vliet From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Fri Jun 8 20:06:15 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:06:15 +1200 Subject: The Bag In-Reply-To: <200106081923.PAA14589@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >A bag of what Richard ?? :) Oh you never know what's in the bag. "The money or the bag folks. What should he/she do"? A thousand voices cry out from the audience "take the bag". "So he/she (insert name)what will it be the money or the bag". He/she in a unsure and in a meek voicei'll take the money. "OK the money it is. This is what you would have got if you'd taken the bag". Opens the bag. "A trip for you and your family all expenses paid AND 5 nights accomadation to Disneyland. .... he/she's life would never be the same again after the local Blackball Evening Gazette splashed their picture on the front page about how local hero made the wrong choice on "Its in the Bag" by only taking the money. Or in the bag might be one leftfoot smelly red sock .... he/she's life would never be the same after the local Blackball Evening Gazette splashed their picture on the front page about how local hero wins $100 from "Its in the Bag". This has been a glimpse of life and upbringing in New Zealand. Now what was that about payola :} Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Jun 8 20:02:43 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:02:43 EDT Subject: Acoustic Dave Message-ID: Hello all, a question: When Cap'n Dave does acoustic numbers (I'm thinking of 'Space is Deep' and 'The Demented Man,' specifically) does he finger-pick or use a pick? Joe From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Fri Jun 8 20:14:06 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:14:06 -0500 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: I'd love to have a copy of SILICON GULCH! John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WOULD WANT ME TO DO A TREE HERE? Only thing is I > can't burn cd's in large quantity. My reciever is from the 70's and isn't > very compatable with modern components. I'm usually a cassette only guy. > This is on a maxell XL2 110min tape. The quality is around 7 out of 10. It > maybe 8, but there is some distortion on the songs. It is the whole > performance going by the tracklist. 11 tracks total. It is from theatrespace > LONDON 5/1/81. CHEERS STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:36 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > > > I just got a recording of CALVERTS--KID FROM SILICON GULCH. Is this rare? > > Anyone know how many times this was performed? STEPHE > > Now, ordinarily I'm slow to suggest things like this, but for > heaven's sake let's tree this thing. I didn't even know it was recorded > and if I could adequately decsribe how much I'd like to hear it I'd blow > all your mailboxes. What format have you got it in? What's the quality > like? Questions questions a thousand questions! explosion and flames in left channel>[1]. Yours, > Jon > > [1] Bonus points for anyone who spots that one :-) > ObCD: Monster Magnet - _Dopes to Infinity_ > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jun 8 21:22:45 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:22:45 -0400 Subject: OFF: ST 37 news Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:15:03 -0600, just me wrote: >(from ST37 via) Doug P: >>"Please try to come out and support this very worthy cause. Roky is >>receiving treatment for the first time in years and is doing better >>already but needs some financial help to get through this difficult >>time. All the bands have special Roky-related surprises for you >>musically as well! ... > >my fried Pierre and I were at a record convention in Austin, and busily >scouring for the odd nice Hawkwind LP, and there is Roky, trying to shop, >but getting asked for autographs....... > >he systematically refused to sign any, 1 by 1, waving them off...... >he "gravitated" himself to me and Pierre, as he could tell we were >safe....... >we talked and talked and he seemed so interested in US!!!!! so we went >with him outside to wait for his mom to come get him........ I wouldn't believe that story coming from most people. But I easily believe, without a doubt, that Roky would consider Mike Coleman to be a kindred spirit and someone "safe"! (... imagining Mike playing Hawkwind albums for Roky while Roky puts horror/sci-fi movie tapes in the VCR for Mike to watch ... all in the midst of an in-depth discussion of UFO theories ...) ... my favorite Roky story comes from the guys in ST37, some of whom used to work at the Austin State (mental) Hospital, including one of the times Roky was staying there. Apparently they found Roky's diagnosis, which included the statement, "... has delusions of being a rock star ..." So they marched into the doctor's office, arms full of Thirteenth Floor Elevators and Roky solo albums (and maybe even a few press clippings), and confronted the M.D. with, "he doesn't have DELUSIONS of being a rock star, he IS a rock star!" -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Jun 9 01:48:07 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:48:07 -0600 Subject: OFF: ST 37 news In-Reply-To: <200106090122.VAA16435@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Doug P: "... my favorite Roky story comes from the guys in ST37, some of whom used to work at the Austin State (mental) Hospital, including one of the times Roky was staying there. Apparently they found Roky's diagnosis, which>included the statement, "... has delusions of being a rock star ..." So they marched into the doctor's office, arms full of Thirteenth Floor>Elevators and Roky solo albums (and maybe even a few press clippings), and confronted the M.D. with, "he doesn't have DELUSIONS of being a rock star, he IS a rock star!"" online for a minute... Doug,,,thanks for responding. I hate untruth. in my story, it was my friend Pierre, who he came up to, and mostly talked with, and while he was comfortable, it was Pierre. I was only there listening. I only wanted to tell of it. I am sorry to all........that know what I mean.... I have been such a fool. (nothing to do with above) must go. m PS,,great hospital story Doug. From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sat Jun 9 02:46:16 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:46:16 -0600 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: Me Too!!!! Pam Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > Hi, > > > >Another one here! > >And another > > And here! > > (c)IAO > > D+R -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace There are many solvents available that will remove ink. There are some problems though. 1. Getting the solvents - difficult if you don't work in a lab 2. The solvents may also attack the vinyl 3. The solvents may attack the printed ink. If you're fortunate and get some solvents - always try it first on a piece of paper. Chloroform and dichloromethane are pretty good, but will turn the vinyl to jelly - if spilled. Chloronated solvents also have health and safety implications. Try some acetone, or even ethanol - you should be able to get absolute alcohol (i.e. pure ethanol) from a chemist, failing that methylated spirits or surgical spirits are easily available. But remember always try some experiments before: to see if the solvent removes ink and, the effect the solvent has on vinyl. Dave -----Original Message----- From: J D To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 08 June 2001 23:46 Subject: HW: Biro removal Hi, Has anyone ever come across an effective way of removing ball point pen markings from record labels? I'm hoping it will be easy with the correct liquid as the label is so thin that the pen hardly makes a groove in the label itself. Any 2nd record restorers out there? Jez From g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK Sat Jun 9 05:28:13 2001 From: g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK (g.m.wright) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:28:13 +0100 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: If you doin a tree then please count me in! Thanks geoff geoff wright g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: John Majka To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 09 June 2001 02:09 Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH >I'd love to have a copy of SILICON GULCH! >John Majka >jmajka2 at home.com > > >> HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WOULD WANT ME TO DO A TREE HERE? Only thing is I >> can't burn cd's in large quantity. My reciever is from the 70's and isn't >> very compatable with modern components. I'm usually a cassette only guy. >> This is on a maxell XL2 110min tape. The quality is around 7 out of 10. It >> maybe 8, but there is some distortion on the songs. It is the whole >> performance going by the tracklist. 11 tracks total. It is from >theatrespace >> LONDON 5/1/81. CHEERS STEPHE >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] >> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:36 PM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >> Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH >> >> >> On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: >> >> > I just got a recording of CALVERTS--KID FROM SILICON GULCH. Is this >rare? >> > Anyone know how many times this was performed? STEPHE >> >> Now, ordinarily I'm slow to suggest things like this, but for >> heaven's sake let's tree this thing. I didn't even know it was recorded >> and if I could adequately decsribe how much I'd like to hear it I'd blow >> all your mailboxes. What format have you got it in? What's the quality >> like? Questions questions a thousand questions! > explosion and flames in left channel>[1]. Yours, >> Jon >> >> [1] Bonus points for anyone who spots that one :-) >> ObCD: Monster Magnet - _Dopes to Infinity_ >> -- >> Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> ===================================================================== >> "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" >> > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 9 06:19:28 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:49:28 +0930 Subject: OFF: Teapots over London.... Gong at the RFH Message-ID: In SPIRIT In Spirit..... Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 3:43 AM Subject: OFF: Teapots over London.... Gong at the RFH > GONG - UK Tour, October/November > UK tour starts with a very special London gig with the Orb and Acid > Temple Mothers at the Royal Festival Hall. And as an added bonus this > will be one of those rare, but oh so wonderful occasions when both > Didier and Theo will both be in the band. > > Wednesday 3rd Oct - London, Royal Festival Hall, tel 0207 960 4242 > Info: http://www.rfh.org.uk > ---------------------------------- > > I'm going. Who else? > -- > Nick Medford From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 9 06:32:12 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 20:02:12 +0930 Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion Message-ID: Nah thats cool man Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 8:39 AM Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion > In message <002101c0f026$2a811520$e0cb223f at michaelangelo68>, > Mich at el B writes > >Our Dave doesn't lie - we all know that - so there it is > > I could be wrong but I have the impression there are crossed wires here. > > Michael: The "Dave" that everyone else was talking about, who apparently > doesn't indulge any more, was Dave Wyndorf of Monster Magnet, not Baron > Brock. > > Apologies if you knew that already. > -- > Nick Medford From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 9 06:34:59 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 20:04:59 +0930 Subject: The Bag Message-ID: Ohhhh - I thought it was a big bag o weed tee hee ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Stockwell To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:36 AM Subject: Re: The Bag > >A bag of what Richard ?? :) > > Oh you never know what's in the bag. "The money or the bag folks. What > should he/she do"? A thousand voices cry out from the audience "take the > bag". "So he/she (insert name)what will it be the money or the bag". He/she > in a unsure and in a meek voicei'll take the money. "OK the money it is. > This is what you would have got if you'd taken the bag". Opens the bag. "A > trip for you and your family all expenses paid AND 5 nights accomadation to > Disneyland. .... he/she's life would never be the same again after the local > Blackball Evening Gazette splashed their picture on the front page about how > local hero made the wrong choice on "Its in the Bag" by only taking the > money. Or in the bag might be one leftfoot smelly red sock .... he/she's > life would never be the same after the local Blackball Evening Gazette > splashed their picture on the front page about how local hero wins $100 from > "Its in the Bag". > This has been a glimpse of life and upbringing in New Zealand. Now what > was that about payola :} > > Regards > > Richard > Cranium Music > http://www.cranium.co.nz > http://www.cranium-music.com From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat Jun 9 06:30:59 2001 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:30:59 +0200 Subject: HW:Mountain Grill Photo Message-ID: Hello, Took a photo of the Mountain Grill in Portobello Road at six in the morning when there weren't any stalls before it. (yes,I woke up early to do that). Also took a photo of a shop called Gong in the same street. Anyone wants it? I don't want to attach it as some people don't like that. E-mail me and I send it to you filip.vanhuyse at yucom.be greetings filip hawknut From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Jun 9 06:56:32 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:56:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Bored while watching the election online In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Sebastian Welton wrote: > While watching the count come I decided to trawl the web looking for > Hawkwind and related stuff that doesn't seem to have been mentioned here: > > - Jimmy Cauty (he of KLF fame) released a remake of Silver Machine calling > himself Scourge Of The Earth which is available on the I Don't Know What You > Want But I Can't Give It Any More sampler (any other versions of this as > this is only a radio edit? And I wouldn't mind a copy) Only issued per se as a promo single, on the back of _EpochEclipse_, but the 1-disc version of that has the radio edit, and the 3-disc the full version. > That's enough crap...looks like Labour have done it again...time for bed... All change for no change. Yours, Jon ObTape: Orbital - _InSides_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Jun 9 07:00:07 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:00:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Voiceprint CD In-Reply-To: <200105140821.EAA28673@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 May 2001, Colin Allen wrote: > Well, my free CD arrived from Voiceprint this morning and, guess what, it > IS the mis-pressed Spacebrock which I already have! As this mispressing > happened after the anouncement of the "free CD", one wonders what the > original freebie was meant to be. > > Does this strike anyone else as a cynical move to shift some dodgy CDs? I > do hope that no-one from the band was involved in this decision as it is > really cheap IMHO! I expect they were hoping that Dave would pull some archive stuff out of the barrel and when he showed them the bottom already scraped for _Glastonbury 1990_ they had to make shift. Or, in the more cynical version, the bunch of cowboys never had any idea what the thing would be as the release schedule only just made 10 when the Series started and they weren't expecting it to be an issue for ages. Then this fell into their laps. What can you do, a real record label would demand some real band work. Sorry, this Election has made me cynical. Sorry, more cynical. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Sat Jun 9 08:13:33 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 13:13:33 +0100 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: >> yes i'm interested in that tree but only on cdr. > >Another one here! Yep - & yet another. Dave From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sat Jun 9 08:25:36 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 20:25:36 +0800 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: Me too. But cdr like Andre. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 3:20 AM Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > >HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE WOULD WANT ME TO DO A TREE HERE? Only thing is I > >can't burn cd's in large quantity. My reciever is from the 70's and isn't > >very compatable with modern components. I'm usually a cassette only guy. > >This is on a maxell XL2 110min tape. The quality is around 7 out of 10. It > >maybe 8, but there is some distortion on the songs. It is the whole > >performance going by the tracklist. 11 tracks total. It is from theatrespace > >LONDON 5/1/81. CHEERS STEPHE > > yes i'm interested in that tree but only on cdr. > > andre > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] > >Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:36 PM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > > > > > >On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > > > > > I just got a recording of CALVERTS--KID FROM SILICON GULCH. Is this rare? > > > Anyone know how many times this was performed? STEPHE > > > > Now, ordinarily I'm slow to suggest things like this, but for > >heaven's sake let's tree this thing. I didn't even know it was recorded > >and if I could adequately decsribe how much I'd like to hear it I'd blow > >all your mailboxes. What format have you got it in? What's the quality > >like? Questions questions a thousand questions! >explosion and flames in left channel>[1]. Yours, > > Jon > > > >[1] Bonus points for anyone who spots that one :-) > >ObCD: Monster Magnet - _Dopes to Infinity_ > >-- > > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > ===================================================================== > > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 9 10:38:10 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:08:10 +0930 Subject: HW:Mountain Grill Photo Message-ID: Anyone out there? This is SPACE calling............... This is SPACE calling............... This is SPACE calling............... This is SPACE calling............... This is SPACE calling............... This is SPACE calling............... This is SPACE calling............... This is SPACE calling............... ----- Original Message ----- From: Filip Vanhuyse To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 8:00 PM Subject: HW:Mountain Grill Photo Hello, Took a photo of the Mountain Grill in Portobello Road at six in the morning when there weren't any stalls before it. (yes,I woke up early to do that). Also took a photo of a shop called Gong in the same street. Anyone wants it? I don't want to attach it as some people don't like that. E-mail me and I send it to you filip.vanhuyse at yucom.be greetings filip hawknut From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jun 9 11:52:52 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 16:52:52 +0100 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: Me too, please! Dave -----Original Message----- From: g.m.wright To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 09 June 2001 10:24 Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH >If you doin a tree then please count me in! >Thanks > geoff >geoff wright From mlooney20 at HOME.COM Sat Jun 9 11:34:04 2001 From: mlooney20 at HOME.COM (mike looney) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:34:04 -0500 Subject: BOC Tulsa Show Message-ID: OK, just got back from the Tulsa "River Fest" show. Crowd of 1500-2000 or so. (large open air concert, $5.00 tickets, largish turn out). There was a rain storm right before they came on, which might have effected the crowd size. The show was longer that the last 3 I have seen, with lots of stuff I had not seen live. Set List: 1) ETI 2) Dance on Stilts * ** 3) Harvester of Eyes 4) Burning for You 5) Buck's Boogie 6) Cities on Flame 7) The Vigil ** 8) Pocket * ** 9) Take Me Away 10) Flaming Telepathy 11) ME 262 ** 12) Last Days of May (with a "Buck Speed Metal" solo in the middle of it. Nice. Odd, but Nice) ** 13) Godzilla, with the now traditional long Base and Drum solo 14) Random bits of Buckness 15) Don't Fear the Reaper 16) [Encore] Dominance and Submission. All in all a great show. And for $5.00 it was a _really_ great show. They did NOT do Astronomy, which they had sort of said they were going to do. Some body had his girl break up with him because of that, if we can trust the USA Today chat. :-) * New CD songs ** things I had never heard live before, or at least can't recall hearing live. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 9 11:31:41 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:01:41 +0930 Subject: spare a dime for the needy? off Message-ID: Kerrrrrboookiiiii get it? From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Sat Jun 9 14:28:04 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 14:28:04 -0400 Subject: HW: Newcastle trip Message-ID: Just heard from one in the know that; "It looks like Mr Quimby's Beard may be supporting Hawkwind at The Newcastle Opera House on November 14th. This may be as far north as they travel." So if you want to be on the southbound mini bis drop me a line at info at the-rocker.co.uk Stuart The Hawkwind Shop - http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=HAWKWIND&s=1151 The Equine Lizard Conspiracy - http://www.spaceritual.co.uk From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sat Jun 9 16:17:36 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 16:17:36 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Rocking Don Hill's 6/8/01 Message-ID: For me, at least, this show was a long time coming -- last time I saw Albert B. and Co. was in Rochester NY 4 years ago, when Billy Hilfiger and Peter Bohevesky handled guitar duties and the band did an extended jam on "Name Your Monster." Great times. I really didn't know what to expect of the band's live sound as a threepiece, and that's a good thing. At this show, I felt as if I was experiencing the band for the very first time, all the way back at the Rongovian Embassy in the fall of '94 when everyone was new to everyone else and "Mad Dude" was played twice. But at the wonderfully chock full-o-character bar/performance space of Don Hill's, the threepiece of Albert, Deborah and David marshalled a fmaliar,but phoenix-like NEW kind of Surgeonsound. The rhythm section, Albert+whoever was on Bass duty for a song, was completley in sync (of course, not the boy band! Shudder to think such a thought!) brazenly strident, marshalling both well known tBS tracks and new tunes in a strident, "we're here to kick out the jams, mf'ers!!", kind of way. The tunes? They played a tight set, consisting of: Last Angry Woman (Deborah vox & guitar, David bass) Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll (Deborah guitar, David bass, Albert vox) Time Will Take Care of You (same as Cities... Sinful Love (Deborah bass, David guitar, Albert vox) Room to Rage (same as Sinful Love) Medusa (Deborah guitar, David Bass) St. Vitus Dance (Deboarh bass, David guitar) Godzilla (Godjira drums, Debroah Guitar, David bass, 2 audience members vox) Obviously, the highlights of the set were the performances of Sinful Love and Room to Rage, which were used to advertise the upcoming Helen Wheels tribute CD (whose proceeds are all going to charity). If you have not heard the MP 3 of "Sinful Love" availible (linked to on www.celsum.com) DO IT NOW. It has a completely different feel than what you're used to on BOC's Agents of Fortune. It's cool and loud and reckless. I loved it. Having heard Helen Wheels and the Skeleton Crew play twice, the excellent rendition of her barnburnin' Room to Rage was very touching and, above all, performed in a Surgeonish way, but retaining all of the punk attitude on heard on Archetype. Their repect for Helen as a close friend and a musical talent brightly burns through the Surgeons' delivery. Godzilla, on the other hand, was the most familiar to me from my BOC collection, but in the hands of Deborah,Albert and Dave, the funk-ish drum pattern which marked the original is expanded upon and coupled with a good loud guitar. To boot, this re-arragnement included the use of back vocals to ill out the more familiar Donald Roeser note bends on the original(this is also true of St. Vitus Dance). Not one to let a possibility for audience rabble rousing pass by, the band extended the middle bit of the song (right after Albert did his warnings in Japanese) to allow for the left side of the stage shouting "god", the right "zilla", which soon broke into the mighty appearance of the drumming beast himself - repsplendent in strobe lights a and peerless kineticism on the skins. Almost as if on cue, as the verses rerturned to close out the song, massive tendrils of smoke from the bar occupants clouded the stage -- despite the "health benefits" of the smoke, the visual effect was rather cool -- Greenwich Ave. really was on Flame. Indeed, this was THE band to do it. Deborah's guitar playing has shifted the weight of the material into a rougher, tougher terrain than the well honed, craftily bent notes of Bohevesky and Hilfiger. Live show chestnuts like Time Will take care of You, Medusa and St. Vitus Dance (the latter has always been one of my favorite tunes of theirs, and it still holds true after last night) had a more leering swagger and urgency which wasn't as apparent on the first threee CDs. Deborah's been able to hand the transition for vox to vocalist/guitar player incredibly well and she's improved gratly since joinin on Dominance and Submission in the olde days. The same is true of Last Angry Woman... For all intents and purposes, this band was a new band which had been around since Eponymous -- but only now have the power trio really seemed to find a groove they havent been to. One of the things I've alwys written about in the past when recounting tales of the Brain Surgeons, was that This Band Has Fun on stage, and again, it's almost a metaphysical certitude that hits you like a guitar solo and leaves you gasping for air (well, it left me gasping for air -- when the urge to dance hits, you dance! others were so inclined to, and the band fed off the collective imitiations of whilring dervishes)-- that's the best reason to do this crazy thing called rock and roll, isn't it? Thanks once again for making rock and roll happen all over again, guys. It does the soul good. Look out summer tour locations -- you WILL be blown away. Black heart of soul, Jason PS: The Philadelpia date has been cancelled. From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Sat Jun 9 16:23:49 2001 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 16:23:49 EDT Subject: BOC Tulsa Show Message-ID: Read Mikes review and agreed with his analysis. The thing that surprised me most about the show was Allen's keyboard playing. Or should I say lack thereof. Allen only played keys on Bucks Boogie, and a couple of other songs. All other times I've seen them, he spent probably 75/25 keys/guitar. This was probably 80/20 guitar/keys. Eric played keys on several of the songs in Allen's place. Great show. Approx 100 min. Cost me $8 instead of $5 because I didn't get my ticket in advance. Worth every $. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Jun 9 17:01:12 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:01:12 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 6/2/01 Message-ID: NOTE: I'LL BE ON FOR 4 HOURS TONIGHT (5-9pm PST)!!! E-MAIL A REQUEST NOW??? "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck 6/2/01 1.Hawkwind-- "You Shouldn't Do That" (In Search of Space; United Artists/One Way/EMI Records) 2.Farflung-- "Breach of I" (The Myth of Solid Ground; unreleased) 3.Quarkspace-- "Chocolate Space Cookies" (Spacefolds 4; Eternity's Jest Records) 4.Twink-- "Suicide" (Think Pink, Do It!; Total Energy Records) 5.The Deviants-- "Garbage" (Ptooff!) 6.Pink Floyd-- "Astronomy Domine" (Piper at the Gates of Dawn; EMI/Harvest Records) 7.Thirteenth Floor Elevators-- "Roller Coaster" (The Psychedelic Sounds of...; Collectables Records) 8.Defender-- excerpt (3/15/01 Live at the Empty Bottle) 9.Doldrums-- "Mao's Revelation in the Great Hall" (Acupuncture/Kranky Records) 10.Fuxa-- "Outer Drive" (Very Well Organized; Mind Expansion Records) 11.Amon Duul II-- "Ballad of the Shimmering Sand" (Carnival in Babylon; United Artists/Repitoirre Records) 12.Ashra Tempel-- "Interplay of Forces" (Starring Rosi; Ohr/Purple Pyramid Records) 13.Cluster-- "Zum Wohl" (Sowiesoso; Sky Records) 14.F/i-- "23 Ohm" (Blue Star; RRRecords) 15.Hawkwind-- title track (PXR 5; Charisma/Virgin Records) thanks, Chuck From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sat Jun 9 18:06:49 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 18:06:49 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Rocking Don Hill's 6/8/01 In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010609161736.0069259c@acmenet.net> Message-ID: >Last Angry Woman (Deborah vox & guitar, David bass) D'oh ... I just realized somehing cool --- last Angrry Woan does a female take of the lyrics of Bo Diddley's "Who do You Love?" Fun stuff!! Of the 3 bands that were ahead of the surgeons that night, the First one -- Devils County Death Cult (they werent as gothic as the latter half of the name alludes to)- appropriated riffs from TNT by Ac/DC and Kick out the Jams by the MC5. THere may have been more but it made them more fun to listen to (like a puz,le or game show almost). Jason From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jun 9 18:22:33 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:22:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 6/2/01 Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Rosenberg Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 10:01 PM Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 6/2/01 > NOTE: I'LL BE ON FOR 4 HOURS TONIGHT (5-9pm PST)!!! > "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Sorry to be ignorant but: am = ante meridiem pm = post meridiem EST = Eastern Standard Time(?) CET = Central European Time GMT = Greenwich Mean Time BST = British Summer Time PST = ??? thanks jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Jun 9 21:29:26 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:29:26 -0400 Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 6/2/01 In-Reply-To: <004b01c0f132$b05e4200$0136883e@jds> Message-ID: On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Jill Strobridge wrote: => am = ante meridiem => pm = post meridiem => EST = Eastern Standard Time(?) => CET = Central European Time => GMT = Greenwich Mean Time => BST = British Summer Time => PST = ??? Pacific Standard Time. The US time zones are (east -> west): Eastern, Central, Mountain, and Pacific. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From nick at NETPHD.NET Sat Jun 9 23:49:41 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:49:41 -0400 Subject: BOC: ERIC'S VOICE Message-ID: I remember a couple years ago everybody was talking about Eric's vocal problems and whether or not he'd ever recover. I think it's pretty obvious from "Curse" that he did. . . and did he ever! Eric sounds amazing on this disc. Some of his growls and yells take me right back to the early '70s. . . even though I didn't become a fan until the early '80s. He even makes the reggae beat work in Showtime. . . although it would probably look more authentic if he were singing it with his old afro. Perhaps done up in dreadlocks. . . ? --Nick From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Jun 10 01:36:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:06:27 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind related re Camp and Festivals Message-ID: This is from Florida USA a hawkwind festival should be a permenant annual holiday...like christmas or your birthday.. and if i have to i will walk on my resin filled lungs to anywhere its being held FROM GARE IN FLORIDA Mb From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Sun Jun 10 03:21:32 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 03:21:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 6/2/01 Message-ID: From: "Jill Strobridge" > PST = ??? Pacific Standard Time. EST - 3 hours From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Jun 10 07:28:15 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:58:15 +0930 Subject: Off - we are the kanigitts who say NICHE - and the geeks who talk about musical equipment with enthusiasm.... Message-ID: Hi NON techo phobic friends and assorted souls from the cosmic chaos of Kerchhhuiiii! {{** Note slight babble here : not really necessary to read it : - I have been working all day on other peoples vinyl - to put on cd - this is perhaps an explanation as to why this email may be perceived as - overly creative in an overly eccentric way. but if I end up out of debt somehow soon my eccentricities will no doubt be appreciated to their fullest}} Now I've forgotten what I was gonna say :( oh yes musical stuff I have just put together a platform with wheels in order to move my MARSHALL VS100 around with ease anyone here ever put together remote control gear before? I thought it might be novell to have a remote controlled platform to drive my marshall from place to place - vehicle to venue > venue to vehicle ha ha serious tho - maybe? Love Mikey From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Jun 10 09:36:36 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 08:36:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: streaming spacerock Message-ID: Hi Everyone! Got this message from the e-prog mailing list. Looks like some good stuff! Karen Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:09:58 -0000 From: "Rob" Subject: (unknown) Hi Everyone! I thought that those who may not be members of The Progressive Music Society may nevertheless be interested in the following links, which will give you access to some streaming Space Rock playlists that we put together to aid our discussion of this genre at the club. It's a great way to get introduced to new bands and perhaps some older ones that a few here may not have heard yet: http://www.myplay.com/mp/playlist/now_playing.jsp?plid=416053&start=1 http://www.myplay.com/mp/playlist/now_playing.jsp?plid=415700&start=1 The links will be good for two weeks, and the stream-speed is dial-up modem user friendly. I hope you enjoy it, as it took a lot of work to put it together. By the way - anyone who might have observations on these tracks and who wants to join in the discussion at PMS will be able to find us at: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/theprogressivemusicsociety All are welcome - the emphasis is on new or obscure prog, and it's a very friendly club. This month's genre discussion is Space Rock. Rob ps: I haven't prepared a printed playlist for the second of these links, but the first is as follows: (format is Track/Artist/Album/Time) Assault & Battery/The Golden Void - Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time - 10:10 - Eternal Guidance - Ship Of Fools - Out There Somewhere - 6:40 - Revolve - 7% Solution - All About Satellites And Spaceships - 7:07 - Eternal Wheel - Ozric Tentacles - Erpland - 8:20 -The Circle - Quarkspace - Deepest Trips - 7:00 - Stonehenge. Nik Turner - Mysterious Encounters - 7:37 - You Never Blow Yr Trip Forever - Gong- You -11:22 Restless Skylight-Transistor-Child - Amon Duul II - Tanz Der Lemminge - 19:33 - Let There Be More Light - Pressurehed - The Other Side of Pink: A Tribute to Pink Floyd 5:59 - Arwr Rhithwelediad - Melting Euphoria - Inside The Gardens Of The Mind - 4:45 - Your Kingdom, Your World - 7% Solution - All About Satellites And Spaceships - 7:03 - Oh Yeah - 7% Solution - Gabriel's Waltz (Ltd. Edition) - 6:27 - Interstellar Overdrive - Spiral Realms - Solar Winds - 8:49 - Silverbird - Mastodon - Pressurehed - Space Daze -- Disk 2 - 3:34 - Mysticum Arabicola - Ozric Tentacles - Erpland - 9:15 - Dislocated Day - Porcupine Tree - The Sky Moves Sideways - 5:24 - Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth - Porcupine Tree - Lightbulb Sun - 4:48 - Threshold - 7% Solution - Gabriel's Waltz (Ltd. Edition) - 7:25 - Perfect Mystery - Gong - You - 2:26 - Plurnstyle - Ozric Tentacles - Become The Other - 7:48 Der Lauf der Giraffen - Ash Ra Temple - The Private Tapes - 3:27 - Vibuthi - Ozric Tentacles - Become The Other - 10:51 - Opa-Loca - Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time - 5:13 - Gabriel's Waltz - 7% Solution -Gabriel's Waltz (Ltd. Edition) - 5:59 - A Sprinkling of Clouds - Gong - You - 8:57 - Happy - 7% Solution - All About Satellites And Spaceships - 7:06 - Amplified Ohm - Melting Euphoria - Inside The Gardens Of The Mind - 7:04 - Master Of The Universe - Hawkwind - In Search Of Space - 6:15 - Spiral Galaxy 28948 - Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time - 3:46 - Dreaming Waves Engulf My ... - Melting Euphoria - Inside The Gardens Of The Mind - 6:22 - >>From Time - Ship Of Fools - Out There Somewhere - 15:08 - Ayurvedism - Ozric Tentacles - Pungent Effulgent - 19:03 - The Psychedelic Warlords (Disappear in Smoke) - Hawkwind - Hall of the Mountain Grill - 7:19 -You Know You're Only Dreaming - Hawkwind - In Search Of Space - 6:38 - Trip to 69 - Spiral Realms - Trip to 69 - 6:50 - To Shade My Mad Existence - Melting Euphoria - Inside The Gardens Of The Mind -8:41 - The Sky Suspended - 7% Solution - All About Satellites And Spaceships - 5:14 - Careful with that Axe Eugene - Nik Turner - A Saucerful of Pink: A Tribute - 9:08 - Ayurvedic - Ozric Tentacles - Pungent Effulgent - 10:57 - Web Weaver- Hawkwind - Hall of the Mountain Grill - 3:07 - From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Jun 10 15:40:08 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:40:08 +0100 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: Hey i'm interested too. Am i too late???? :-( Sorry i didn't reply straight away as i've been moving and i didn't get the phone on till this weekend. cheers Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 Currently listening to: Captain lockhead and the starfighters ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Regenbrecht" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:43 PM Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > Hi, > > > >Another one here! > >And another > > And here! > > (c)IAO > > D+R > From nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM Sun Jun 10 16:40:41 2001 From: nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM (Joseph Sardo) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:40:41 -0700 Subject: BRAIN: Rocking Don Hill's 6/8/01 In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010609161736.0069259c@acmenet.net> Message-ID: Hey Jason Saw neither hide nor hair of you and Jeff after surgery. For those who stayed for the rest of the bands, Al, Dave and Deb filled the time mostly by talking to fans. As usual, they were accessible, informative and gracious. The bands to play post-op tBS were considerably better then what we heard before (I even bought a CD from a band called "Daddy", very gothic, in the spirit of Black Sabbath in their infancy). Not my kind of thing, but it sounded real good that night. I've seen tBS 5 times now. Expecting the worst because of their self-description on their web site, Don Hill's was by far tBS best venue I have witnessed. The lounge itself is comfortably large - (large enough to walk around in without having to climb over a chair or table), acoustically good (darn better then where I?ve heard them before ? this might be just the right minimum size place for our surgeons to operate), and the patrons and employees civil (extremely civil for a Fri in NYC and I was well maintained by the waitress who made sure I got their tBS flier, a nice 18*24 suitable for framing). I believe the band has gotten better. I?ve seen them as a trio all but once and I remember telling Al after a show last year they were getting better. Now they are certainly tighter and more powerful than ever. (Albert said they have been practicing more and recording their practices) Their vocal harmonies (Al and Dave) have improved. Ms. D?s musicianship has improved. I don?t know enough about it to be a bass critic, but Dave is certainly doing fine with that horrid green bass guitar, suitable for painting (just kidding, Dave). But Dave loves to play his 6 string. He has fun up there no matter, but didn?t you see his eyes sparkle a bit (no, much) more when he played lead guitar? He was quite smooth, more comfortable and animated playing it this last time out. He?s been practicing. All you people out there are really going to enjoy this tour. Yes, Jason, they certainly have fun up there. And it radiates. And the good news is that there just could be a return to them thar Hill?s. Of course nothing is certain, but after the summer tour something might happen at Don Hill?s again. Behave responsibly and vote republican. Regards, Joe Sardo Volts to Ungodly Pigeons!!! PS: Are you staying in Syracuse during summer recess? --- Jason Scruton wrote: > For me, at least, this show was a long time coming > -- last time I saw > Albert B. and Co. was in Rochester NY 4 years ago, > when Billy Hilfiger and > Peter Bohevesky handled guitar duties and the band > did an extended jam on > "Name Your Monster." Great times. I really didn't > know what to expect of > the band's live sound as a threepiece, and that's a > good thing. At this > show, I felt as if I was experiencing the band for > the very first time, all > the way back at the Rongovian Embassy in the fall of > '94 when everyone was > new to everyone else and "Mad Dude" was played > twice. > > But at the wonderfully chock full-o-character > bar/performance space of Don > Hill's, the threepiece of Albert, Deborah and David > marshalled a > fmaliar,but phoenix-like NEW kind of Surgeonsound. > The rhythm section, > Albert+whoever was on Bass duty for a song, was > completley in sync (of > course, not the boy band! Shudder to think such a > thought!) brazenly > strident, marshalling both well known tBS tracks and > new tunes in a > strident, "we're here to kick out the jams, > mf'ers!!", kind of way. The tunes? > They played a tight set, consisting of: > > Last Angry Woman (Deborah vox & guitar, David bass) > Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll (Deborah guitar, > David bass, Albert vox) > Time Will Take Care of You (same as Cities... > Sinful Love (Deborah bass, David guitar, Albert vox) > Room to Rage (same as Sinful Love) > Medusa (Deborah guitar, David Bass) > St. Vitus Dance (Deboarh bass, David guitar) > Godzilla (Godjira drums, Debroah Guitar, David bass, > 2 audience members vox) > > Obviously, the highlights of the set were the > performances of Sinful Love > and Room to Rage, which were used to advertise the > upcoming Helen Wheels > tribute CD (whose proceeds are all going to > charity). If you have not > heard the MP 3 of "Sinful Love" availible (linked to > on www.celsum.com) DO > IT NOW. It has a completely different feel than what > you're used to on > BOC's Agents of Fortune. It's cool and loud and > reckless. I loved it. > Having heard Helen Wheels and the Skeleton Crew play > twice, the excellent > rendition of her barnburnin' Room to Rage was very > touching and, above all, > performed in a Surgeonish way, but retaining all of > the punk attitude on > heard on Archetype. Their repect for Helen as a > close friend and a musical > talent brightly burns through the Surgeons' > delivery. > > Godzilla, on the other hand, was the most familiar > to me from my BOC > collection, but in the hands of Deborah,Albert and > Dave, the funk-ish drum > pattern which marked the original is expanded upon > and coupled with a good > loud guitar. To boot, this re-arragnement included > the use of back vocals > to ill out the more familiar Donald Roeser note > bends on the original(this > is also true of St. Vitus Dance). Not one to let a > possibility for audience > rabble rousing pass by, the band extended the middle > bit of the song (right > after Albert did his warnings in Japanese) to allow > for the left side of > the stage shouting "god", the right "zilla", which > soon broke into the > mighty appearance of the drumming beast himself - > repsplendent in strobe > lights a and peerless kineticism on the skins. > Almost as if on cue, as the > verses rerturned to close out the song, massive > tendrils of smoke from the > bar occupants clouded the stage -- despite the > "health benefits" of the > smoke, the visual effect was rather cool -- > Greenwich Ave. really was on > Flame. Indeed, this was THE band to do it. > > Deborah's guitar playing has shifted the weight of > the material into a > rougher, tougher terrain than the well honed, > craftily bent notes of > Bohevesky and Hilfiger. Live show chestnuts like > Time Will take care of > You, Medusa and St. Vitus Dance (the latter has > always been one of my > favorite tunes of theirs, and it still holds true > after last night) had a > more leering swagger and urgency which wasn't as > apparent on the first > threee CDs. Deborah's been able to hand the > transition for vox to > vocalist/guitar player incredibly well and she's > improved gratly since > joinin on Dominance and Submission in the olde days. > The same is true of > Last Angry Woman... For all intents and purposes, > this band was a new band > which had been around since Eponymous -- but only > now have the power trio > really seemed to find a groove they havent been to. > One of the things > I've alwys written about in the past when recounting > tales of the Brain > Surgeons, was that This Band Has Fun on stage, and > again, it's almost a > metaphysical certitude that hits you like a guitar > solo and leaves you > gasping for air (well, it left me gasping for air -- > when the urge to dance > hits, you dance! others were so inclined to, and the > band fed off the > collective imitiations of whilring dervishes)-- > that's the best reason to > do this crazy thing called rock and roll, isn't it? > Thanks once again for > making rock and roll happen all over again, guys. It > does the soul good. > > Look out summer tour locations -- you WILL be blown > away. > > Black heart of soul, > Jason > > PS: The Philadelpia date has been cancelled. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jun 10 17:21:01 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:21:01 +0100 Subject: OFF. Jefferson Starship - Dragonfly In-Reply-To: <200106080544.BAA10621@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Doug Pearson wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 03:18:31 +0100, Jon Jarrett > wrote: > >On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Doug Pearson wrote: > > > >> Have you heard the 'Fillmore' live CD (from '68 IIRC) that was recently > >> released? Very similar to, and possibly better than, 'Pointed Head'. > >> Essential for Airplane fans (like me) ... > > > > Is this the same as a thing I've got called _Through the Looking Glass_? > > No, it's 'Live at the Fillmore East', released in 1998 on RCA (well, really > BMG). Recorded 3 & 4 May 1968. Similar to 'Pointed Head' (the jam similar > to "Bear Melt" is entitled "Thing"), but with more songs from 'After > Bathing At Baxter's' (my fave JA album) & 'Crown of Creation'. > > >If not, does anyone know what this is? It doesn't seem like a > >boot, it has a label address (in Italy) and a full band bio, but nothing > >actually specific to the actual release beyond a back-cover > >tracklist. It's *great*, but I'd like to know it's in some sense > >legit. > > An Italian address makes things a bit suspicious ... I would *hope* that > I'd heard of it if it really was legit. Does it have good sound? The sound is not at all bad; certainly it would be acceptable on a legit live release if a bit muddy on a couple of numbers. Now I look at it again, the label is not Italian, the distributor is (?); the label is English, and called Almafame Ltd.. The catalogue no. is AlmaCD005, so it can't be utterly fly-by-night. As far as I can tell from my limited knowledge of Airplania it's all pre-Baxters, although several things don't seem ever to have got an album release and I don't think it's all from the same gig by a long way. Tracklist is: High Flyin' Bird / Today / She Has Funny Cars /Don't Slip Away / Plastic Fantastic Lover / 3/5 of a Mile in Ten Seconds / Ride / Get Together / It's No Scret / Somebody To Love / Other Side of this Life / White Rabbit / My Best Friend. Most of it is very good; the performances are tip-top. `Other Side of this Life' is Airplane blanga - it doesn't let up even slightly :-) Not at all sure about `Today' or `My Best Friend' but there we go. Does that all leave you any the wiser? Yours, Jon ObCD: ST37 - _Invisible College_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Jun 10 18:11:06 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:11:06 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Rocking Don Hill's 6/8/01 In-Reply-To: <20010610204041.22709.qmail@web3201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: :)>>-----Original Message----- :)>>From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :)>>Behalf Of Joseph Sardo :)>>Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 4:41 PM :)>>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :)>>Subject: Re: BRAIN: Rocking Don Hill's 6/8/01 :)>>Behave responsibly and vote republican. HUH? Is this a joke? Mike in Troy NY __ ______________________ `'-.,________,,..- ___ \________ > `'-.,_____,,.-`<_>\ )__ `\ > `'-._ _)____ \ > _.-'` _______ `\ | > _,,..--'''``` `'-.\| >-'`` `' From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jun 10 18:10:15 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:10:15 +0100 Subject: BOC: CotHM review/overview/discussion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Paul Mather wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: > > => '...Ah feel yer pain...' But you guys on the other side of the pond got > => the new Monster Magnet a month or so before we did, and our > => version doesn't include the best song they did, 'Down in the Jungle...' > > I picked up _God Says No_ last week in the used bins. Mine says on the > back it includes a bonus track, "Silver Future." Does this mean the USA > version has that but the European one doesn't? Still haven't got it myself: money been too tight. Someone burnt me a copy to tide me over till I can. From this I say, no, `Silver Future' is also on the European release also flagged as a bonus track... Does that make `Down in the Jungle' the last track, which sounds like nothing so much as a track written in the wake of them covering `Kick out the Jams' and going, "But that's easy! Any fool could write this! Look, I'll do it now!" I think the best thing on there is either the opener or `Cry' myself. > As for the album itself, I enjoyed it well enough, but it seemed very > slick and mellower compared to previous outings. I got the impression > Dave was trying to expand musically into the mainstream. But, I'm a > _Spine of God_ and _25.....Tab_ fanatic, so feel free to ignore all > that. However, I much prefer the direction Ed Mundell is taking in his > solo project (even if it might be less original) to the current Monster > Magnet. I considered it and _Powertrip_ together and wrote this on another forum, which since I'm not doing caffeine today I'm sure you will forgive my shameless copy-and-pasting: "Monster Magnet. We've had _Powertrip_, we've had _God Says No_. These are both a lot more commercially-aimed compared to the older stuff, I think anyone would agree, but the former strikes me as much more of a band effort. It's also more straighforward, but you get that. The latter has more interesting stuff on it but a lot of it seems to have been put together by Dave Wyndorf in his room with a computer and someone programming drums for him. The whole band doesn't seem to have worked together much." It struck me that for a man who's said, "I would be Dave Brock, but it's already been done", he's heading down the same road... Yours, Jon ObCD: Pressurehed - _Sudden Vertigo_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Jun 10 18:17:38 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:17:38 -0400 Subject: BOC: Auto E-mail from Amazon. Message-ID: Got this auto e-mail thingy from amazon.com. cute eh? What do you all think of this album? Would someone who likes BOC like this album or is their computer speaking out of it's you know what? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dear Michael S Habiby, We have noticed that many of our customers who have purchased "Curse of the Hidden Mirror" also enjoy music by The Cult. For this reason, you might like to know that the new CD by The Cult, "Beyond Good and Evil," has recently hit the shelves. (followed by blah blah blah buy blah buy buy amazon blah blah blah) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Mike ________________________ `'-.,________,,..- ___ \________ > `'-.,_____,,.-`<_>\ )__ `\ > `'-._ _)____ \ > _.-'` _______ `\ | > _,,..--'''``` `'-.\| >-'`` `' From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jun 10 18:18:46 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:18:46 +0100 Subject: OFF: Teapots over London.... Gong at the RFH In-Reply-To: <4uWx1EAHXRI7Ewhi@hermit0.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > GONG - UK Tour, October/November > UK tour starts with a very special London gig with the Orb and Acid > Temple Mothers at the Royal Festival Hall. And as an added bonus this > will be one of those rare, but oh so wonderful occasions when both > Didier and Theo will both be in the band. > > Wednesday 3rd Oct - London, Royal Festival Hall, tel 0207 960 4242 > Info: http://www.rfh.org.uk > ---------------------------------- > > I'm going. Who else? Subject to money, health and commitments (the phenomenon not the band) I hope to make it as unmissable for me personally as it sounds... which is nearly a yes :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: Pressurehed - _Sudden Vertigo_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Jun 10 18:29:09 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:29:09 +0100 Subject: BOC: MIRROR Message-ID: Japan eh? If you are willing to help me out at CD Services with the answers to a few questions that only someone in Japan can help us with, can you e.mail me off list at: agcdser at aol.com and we will shoot them in your direction. Thanks Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Hopkins" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: Re: BOC: MIRROR > Hey Stuart, > > This might make you feel a little better...I'm in Japan. I haven't seen it in > the stores (HMV/Virgin) and they don't seem to know when it will be available > here. :-( > > Keith > > Zeitgeist wrote: > > > You have no idea how sick this discussion makes me:-( Another 10 days > > before the UK release. Bastards, bastards, bastards. > > > > Stuart > > The Hawkwind Shop > > http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=HAWKWIND&s=1151 > > > > > > n 7 Jun 2001, at 11:44, Scruton, Jason wrote: > > > > > >> What's also cool about this is it seems CMC gave BOC a bigger budget > >> to work with -- I mean that album art is really really good -- its got > >> the aesthetic sensibility of their classic album covers (up to > >> Revolution by Night). Here's hoping to rock out more. > >> > > > > Good point! The album art is first rate, and rivals any of their best--it > > may actually be their best alubum art. YMMV. Kind of reminds me > > of Spectres, eh? And beyond the artwork, the budget is apparent in > > the sound quality, isn't it? This disc sounds much better than HF, > > no? > > > > Still no review yet--haven't played it enough, but I like Showtime's > > use of vibrato guitar on the verses. Some of the lyrics are really > > bad, but I'm hoping they'll make more sense on repeated listenings. > > > > I really like EB's vox on this disc. Sounds like he's back to the old > > days, vocally... > > theo From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Jun 10 18:37:59 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:37:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree at Shepherd's Bush Empire Message-ID: Flamin' well better be - I thought LS was too weak and insipid by half (Dave did most of the review in our catalogue in case anyone was figuring!!!) and that 'Stupid Dream' walks all over it (I did that one), Daft part is, Wilson, genius that he is, just won't accept the band for what it is and keeps striving for some unattainable 'chart' goal. If you want that, oh great god Wilson, it's either get fashionable or do a cover version. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 12:31 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Porcupine Tree at Shepherd's Bush Empire > In message rg.uk>, Jon Jarrett writes > > However the next studio PT album will allegedly be darker, stranger and > have more guitars, so it should be a good 'un. > -- > Nick Medford From nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM Sun Jun 10 21:18:40 2001 From: nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM (Joseph Sardo) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:18:40 -0700 Subject: BRAIN: Rocking Don Hill's 6/8/01 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't know what you mean "huh is this a joke" Joe Sardo Ghent, down the road from Troy, NY --- Mike Habiby wrote: > :)>>-----Original Message----- > :)>>From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > :)>>Behalf Of Joseph Sardo > :)>>Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 4:41 PM > :)>>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > :)>>Subject: Re: BRAIN: Rocking Don Hill's 6/8/01 > > > > :)>>Behave responsibly and vote republican. > > > HUH? Is this a joke? > > Mike in Troy NY __ > ______________________ > `'-.,________,,..- ___ \________ > > `'-.,_____,,.-`<_>\ )__ `\ > > `'-._ _)____ \ > > _.-'` _______ `\ | > > _,,..--'''``` `'-.\| > >-'`` `' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Jun 10 22:25:30 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:25:30 -0600 Subject: Mystical Warrior Sighting (no hairs) In-Reply-To: <014901c0f207$bd23b260$b79cbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Ladies and Gentlemen, for anyone interested in the "fabled", "legendary", "hairless Warrior" here it is: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1437705876 take special note of the "powdery" print on the inside of shield.... this is another characteristic trait (in varying amounts) of the correct one..... this one isn't good enough for me.....now you see it, please hurry and sell it.....(your better copies) I'll pay good, and I'll pay fast..... NOOOOO JOKE Mike Coleman From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Sun Jun 10 21:46:51 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:46:51 -0600 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: Maybe we should move over to neoquark and set this up as an official tree. It sounds like quite a few people want it, so that's probably the best way. If you're not a neoquark member, contact me offlist and I can send you an invitation. So, the questions we'd need answered are: 1) Who's got the best sounding version of this show? 2) Who wants to digitize it to cdr? 3) Who wants to take official sign-ups and collect addresses to administer a tree? Any volunteers? Regards, Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: colm mcwilliams To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > Hey i'm interested too. > > Am i too late???? :-( > Sorry i didn't reply straight away as i've been moving and i didn't get the > phone on till this weekend. > > cheers > > > > Colm McWilliams > ICQ: #62753543 > Currently listening to: Captain lockhead and the starfighters > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denis Regenbrecht" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:43 PM > Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > > > > Hi, > > > > > >Another one here! > > >And another > > > > And here! > > > > (c)IAO > > > > D+R > > From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Mon Jun 11 01:31:14 2001 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:31:14 +0200 Subject: Mountain Grill/Gong photos Message-ID: Hello, Could all who asked me to send the photos,e-mail their full adress not only their name,so I can send them all at ones. Takes less time for me. so like this: filip.vanhuyse at yucom.be thanks filip From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Jun 11 03:39:38 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:39:38 +0100 Subject: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's Message-ID: LOL - Top banana!! Hope the girlfriend's feeling better. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] Sent: 08 June 2001 19:07 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - ooooopp psy's On Fri, 4 May 2001, Sam Kirwan wrote: > If u know 1 I'd be amazed - there are no men like that - they don't have the > genetic make up for it - they have the genes for plenty of other fun stuff - > a woman could not have conceived Hawkwind for instance - but looking after > more than themselves.......... > > (No offence lads - we luv u dearly for what u r) This has been hanging round my INBOX for more than a month now, and I'm still not exactly happy about it. This may have something to do with the fact that I've been kind of busy looking after a near bed-ridden girlfriend and still-perfectly-healthy toddler whilst trying to keep a part-time job and part-time Ph.D. running at the same time. And that Bedouin gig happened in there too. So might I gently suggest that there are more (wo)men in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your generalisation, which despite your happy little disclaimer I still find pretty offensive. I know some pretty good female-led tripper bands too. Maybe you could have a fresh take at your gendertyping. Yours, Jon > -----Original Message----- > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > Sent: 03 May 2001 21:53 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Snivelling New Age Guys...... :) Off on a tangent - > ooooopppsy's > > Ha!! Ha!! That's good! > I don't know many blokes that could do it!!! > > Layla -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Jun 11 06:36:30 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:36:30 -0400 Subject: OFF: Who's the daddy? Message-ID: Well it must be either me or Andy G. The June 2001 issue of Get Rhythm has a third of a page each devoted to me (Zeitgeist) and Andys CD Services. Available at all major UK newstands (HMV and Virgin too) for a humbel ?2.95 (humbel looks so much better spelt that way). So you'd better speak to Andy and myself now, before we isolate ourselves in our respective Hollywood Hills mansions, and are too coked up to remember (or indeed care) who you are. Stuart From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 11 07:21:02 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:21:02 -0500 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: OK, Lets do this through the neo-quark group. I will take official sign ups there. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: BL Young [mailto:blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 8:47 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH Maybe we should move over to neoquark and set this up as an official tree. It sounds like quite a few people want it, so that's probably the best way. If you're not a neoquark member, contact me offlist and I can send you an invitation. So, the questions we'd need answered are: 1) Who's got the best sounding version of this show? 2) Who wants to digitize it to cdr? 3) Who wants to take official sign-ups and collect addresses to administer a tree? Any volunteers? Regards, Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: colm mcwilliams To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > Hey i'm interested too. > > Am i too late???? :-( > Sorry i didn't reply straight away as i've been moving and i didn't get the > phone on till this weekend. > > cheers > > > > Colm McWilliams > ICQ: #62753543 > Currently listening to: Captain lockhead and the starfighters > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denis Regenbrecht" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:43 PM > Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > > > > Hi, > > > > > >Another one here! > > >And another > > > > And here! > > > > (c)IAO > > > > D+R > > From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 11 07:41:51 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:41:51 -0500 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: THANK YOU for the offer. I will let you do that. I will need to send a copy but I won't be able to do it til later in the week. I'm done with your tapes and should have them mailed today or tomorrow. I will contact you later about SILICON GULCH. THANKS COLIN. Cheers STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen [mailto:colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:24 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH Stephe, I could transfer it to CDR and remaster it to improve the sound quality. COLIN From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 09:00:50 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:00:50 +0100 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: Is there just no one on the list at all... Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! Layla. From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 11 08:55:10 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:55:10 -0500 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: I'm here STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: What's happening?? Is there just no one on the list at all... Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! Layla. From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Mon Jun 11 09:06:37 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:06:37 +0200 Subject: What's happening?? In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A0D6@hermes.marketday. com> Message-ID: At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: >I'm here STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: What's happening?? > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. hi layla well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out hawkwind...........!!! but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. your inbox will be filled with......... andre From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 11 10:11:04 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:41:04 +0930 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: Hiya! ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 PM Subject: What's happening?? > Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Jun 11 10:17:41 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:17:41 EDT Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... Message-ID: TERRE HAUTE, Ind. (June 11) - The government Timothy McVeigh so despised executed him by chemical injection Monday, taking his life in exchange for the 168 lives lost when he blew up the Oklahoma City federal building six years ago. He died silently, with his eyes open. Instead of making an oral statement, McVeigh, 33, issued a copy of the 1875 poem ''Invictus,'' which concludes with the lines: ''I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.'' He was pronounced dead at 8:14 a.m. EDT by Warden Harley Lappin, becoming the first federal prisoner executed in 38 years. In Oklahoma City, 232 survivors and victims' relatives watched a closed-circuit TV broadcast of the execution, sent from Terre Haute in a feed encrypted to guard against interception. Others embraced each other at the memorial marking the bombing site. The lethal injection was administered to McVeigh's right leg. McVeigh made eye contact with his four witnesses, then with the 10 media witnesses, then squinted toward the tinted window shielding the 10 victims' witnesses from his view. McVeigh, wearing a white T-shirt, khaki pants and slip-on sneakers, looked pale as he awaited death. His hair was cropped short. A white sheet was pulled up tightly to his chest as he lay on the gurney. When the first drug was administered, he let out a couple of deep breaths, then a fluttery breath. His head moved back, his gaze fixed on the ceiling, and his eyes were glassy. In a recent letter to the Buffalo News, McVeigh said his body would be released to one his attorneys and cremated, and his ashes would be scattered in an undisclosed location. In Oklahoma City, Kathleen Treanor, whose 4-year-old daughter, Ashley, and her husband's parents died in the bombing, watched the execution on closed-circuit TV. Afterward, she held up a picture of her daughter and said: ''I thought of her every step of the way.'' She said there was no display of emotion in the room as the execution took place. She said some of the victims were chuckling that they knew McVeigh was dead before the hordes of media outside did. ''I don't think anything can bring me any peace or anything from this. I'll always face the loss of my daughter. I'll never get over that,'' said Treanor, 38. ''When I die and they lay me in my grave is when I'll have closure. That's when I'll stop grieving for my daughter.'' Larry Whicher, the brother of a bombing victim, said McVeigh looked into the camera with cold, blank stare in the moments before he died. ''He had a look of defiance and that if he could, he'd do it all over again,'' Whicher said. He added: ''I don't think he gave himself to the Lord. I don't think he repented and personally I think he's in hell.'' Janice Smith, whose brother Lanny Scroggins died in the bombing, prayed with her children at the Oklahoma City National Memorial, then left after getting word that McVeigh was dead. ''It's over,'' she said. ''We don't have to continue with him anymore.'' The day before McVeigh's execution, his attorneys said that he was sorry for those who suffered but that he didn't regret detonating a massive bomb at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building - the worst act of terrorism on U.S. soil. ''He never, I think, has been the type of guy to tell people what he thinks that they want to hear,'' attorney Robert Nigh said. ''I think that he tries to be honest about his true feeling of sympathy and empathy without being inaccurate about them.'' The U.S. Bureau of Prison's 50-page protocol for the execution outlined every detail, including the words the warden must say to the U.S. marshal before the injection began: ''We are ready.'' Before that, McVeigh had four minutes to make a statement. McVeigh received a mixture of sodium thiopental, to sedate him, pancuronium bromide, a muscle relaxant that collapses the diaphragm and lungs; and potassium chloride, which stops the heart. Among those allowed to witness were 10 victims' representatives, 10 news media members, including one from The Associated Press, and McVeigh's personal witnesses - Nigh, defense attorney Nathan Chambers, former defense team member Cate McCauley and Buffalo News reporter Lou Michel, who co-wrote a recent book on the bomber. No members of McVeigh's family traveled to Terre Haute, at his request. Defiant to the end, McVeigh had told those close to him in his final days that he still considered himself the victor in his one-man war against a government he labeled a bully for its disastrous raids at Waco, Texas, and Ruby Ridge in Idaho. Prison officials said the decorated Gulf War veteran spent Sunday writing letters, sleeping, watching television and meeting with Nigh and Chambers. McVeigh was served his final requested meal at 1 p.m. EDT Sunday, eating two pints of mint-chocolate chip ice cream. Less than 24 hours before his death, McVeigh's mood had been upbeat, his attorneys said. ''He continues to be affable,'' Chambers said. ''He continues to be rational in his discourse. He maintains his sense of humor.'' McVeigh was transferred from his 8-by-10-foot cell to an isolation cell near the death chamber at 5:10 a.m. EDT Sunday. ''He was able to look up in the sky and see the moon for the first time in a number of years,'' Nigh said. McVeigh, he added, slept a few hours Saturday night and planned to do the same before the execution. McVeigh was born in Pendleton, N.Y., near Buffalo, in 1968 and raised Roman Catholic in a middle-class environment. At a young age, he developed a keen interest in guns from his grandfather. As he grew up, he developed a distrust of the government, yet he joined the Army and went on to serve in the Gulf War. He returned more disillusioned with the United States, viewing its treatment of the Iraqi people as that of a schoolyard bully. Drifting across the country and taking on an increasingly survivalist mentality, he stewed over what he saw as government encroachment on the right to bear arms. The federal raids at the Branch Davidian compound at Waco and the cabin of white separatist Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge brought his hatred to a head. He decided it was time for action, not words. McVeigh set his sights on the Oklahoma City federal building. He packed a Ryder truck with explosives, lit the fuses, parked it outside the federal building and walked away without looking back. He was condemned to die for the deaths of eight federal law enforcement agents buried in the rubble, but jurors in the death penalty phase of his 1997 trial labeled him responsible for all 168 deaths. McVeigh's original execution date was May 16, but it was delayed after the FBI revealed it had withheld more than 4,500 documents from the defense during McVeigh's trial. The Justice Department said nothing in the documents cast doubt on the bomber's guilt. Defense attorneys sought an additional delay but were turned down. McVeigh then decided to halt all appeals. After McVeigh's death, officials at the Terre Haute prison - which houses the remaining 19 federal death row inmates - must prepare for another execution. Drug kingpin and convicted murderer Juan Raul Garza is scheduled to die June 19. AP-NY-06-11-01 0923EDT From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon Jun 11 10:17:10 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:17:10 -0400 Subject: BOC: ERIC'S VOICE Message-ID: > I remember a couple years ago everybody was talking > about Eric's vocal problems and whether or not he'd > ever recover. I think it's pretty obvious from "Curse" > that he did. . . and did he ever! Yes, Eric's vocal issues have been put to rest. :-) > > Eric sounds amazing on this disc. Some of his growls > and yells take me right back to the early '70s. . . > even though I didn't become a fan until the early '80s. "One Step Of The Devil" is particularly good. > > He even makes the reggae beat work in Showtime. . . > although it would probably look more authentic if he > were singing it with his old afro. Perhaps done up in > dreadlocks. . . ? I heard from Melne that the original version of "Showtime" was even more reggae-ish than what was done on COTHM. John From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Jun 11 10:32:12 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:32:12 -0400 Subject: BOC: ERIC'S VOICE In-Reply-To: <3B24D2D5.33B535BE@mitre.org> Message-ID: Nick wrote: >> He even makes the reggae beat work in Showtime. . . >> although it would probably look more authentic if he >> were singing it with his old afro. Perhaps done up in >> dreadlocks. . . ? John replied: > I heard from Melne that the original version of "Showtime" was even more > reggae-ish than what was done on COTHM. For those of us without the Buck archive series, how do the other old tunes (Here Comes That Feeling, Stone of Love) compare to the originals? I remember you writing that Stone of Love sounded better, but how so? I can't get enough of HCTF. It's just an incredible '80s-style pop tune. Stone of Love has grown on me. I liked Meltzer's lyrics from the beginning, but the arrangement took a little while to click with me. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 11 11:36:17 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:36:17 -0600 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Timothy Mcveigh is dead... no no no no.... he's on the outside looking in..... From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Mon Jun 11 10:40:18 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:40:18 -0400 Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal? Message-ID: We might as well have a whip round (its really lovely ill keep it and cherish it forever) for Eric since we've done best guitar solo etc. every oyster boy has his day, no? >> Eric sounds amazing on this disc. Some of his growls >> and yells take me right back to the early '70s. . . >> even though I didn't become a fan until the early '80s. > >"One Step Of The Devil" is particularly good. > For me, its the scream at the end of Donovan's Monkey, followed closely by his Harvester of Eyes rap on ST, (which is coincidentally tied with "Hey! Alright! Get down!" off of OYF's Harvester) and the take you to helllllllllllllllllllllllll... bit on Divine Wind off o' Cultosaurus. my fave singing part by Mr. Bloom is all of SFG takes where he sings- so much more vibrant and on key. But I would say Astronomy is the cake taker for the BOC era (though, Deborah's take on the tune is Astounding with a capital A -- Especially, the transition lines of nexus of the crisis and origin of storms.." and just to place to hopelessly encounter time and then came me".) Jason PS: dare we poll for "best stun guitar songs?" hehe From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Jun 11 10:43:43 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:43:43 EDT Subject: BOC: ERIC'S VOICE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 11 Jun 2001, at 10:32, Brian Halligan wrote: > Nick wrote: > >> He even makes the reggae beat work in Showtime. . . > >> although it would probably look more authentic if he > >> were singing it with his old afro. Perhaps done up in > >> dreadlocks. . . ? > EB's vox is back big time, but he should have some SONGS to sing. Some of the lyrics on EB's songs have left me scratching my head. I Want to be Bad and Out of the Darkness are almost painful to listen to due to the lyrics. The music's just fine. Anyone else get the sense that CotHM is Flat Out, part 2? It's full of great stuff, but doesn't sound like a B?C disc. The sound quality and recording are great, IMHO, and the overall feel of the disc is great. But there isn't a real killer B?C tune on the order of SYiB or HM from HF, but overall, I'd rate it a better disc than HF. Very pop-ish, on the BD songs. I honestly think BD would be a great pop producer, if he ever feels like retiring from the road... theo From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 10:55:56 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:55:56 +0100 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: Hello Stephe!!! >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> I'm here STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: What's happening?? Is there just no one on the list at all... Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! Layla. From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 10:58:53 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:58:53 +0100 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: I'm on that list too!!!! Nothing much happening there either!! Layla >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: >I'm here STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: What's happening?? > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. hi layla well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out hawkwind...........!!! but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. your inbox will be filled with......... andre From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 11 10:53:06 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:53:06 -0500 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? Hello Stephe!!! >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> I'm here STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: What's happening?? Is there just no one on the list at all... Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! Layla. From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Mon Jun 11 11:02:58 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:02:58 -0400 Subject: BOC:was eric's voice now Buckpop Message-ID: >Anyone else get the sense that CotHM is Flat Out, part 2? It's full >of great stuff, but doesn't sound like a B?C disc. The sound quality >and recording are great, IMHO, and the overall feel of the disc is >great. But there isn't a real killer B?C tune on the order of SYiB or >HM from HF, but overall, I'd rate it a better disc than HF. If you put all the BD tunes on one tape/disc from Heaven Forbid and CotHM you'd have an awesome 2nd album by Mr. Roeser. >Very pop-ish, on the BD songs. I honestly think BD would be a >great pop producer, if he ever feels like retiring from the road... Interestingly though, its a different notion of pop, I think, than whats pop today -- thinking of Britney Spears, the remake of Lady Marmalade, etc. What Buck does is far more of the weird amalgam of honest good songcraft and accessibility charateristic of the age in which he grew up listening to rock and roll radio. he'd kick arse, yes. Imagine the Foo Fighters under a Dharma tutelage. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 11 11:08:54 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:38:54 +0930 Subject: off Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: Oh - orgies - explosions - fancy dress - you name it its happened today tee hee Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:23 AM Subject: Re: What's happening?? > HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS > STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > Hello Stephe!!! > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> > I'm here STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: What's happening?? > > > Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 11 11:14:05 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:14:05 -0400 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: I would be happy to digitise it. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 11 11:15:56 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:15:56 -0400 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: Cool! Your CDs should be done by Wednesday:). COLIN From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 11 11:10:35 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:10:35 -0500 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many lists. EEEEEKK -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm on that list too!!!! Nothing much happening there either!! Layla >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: >I'm here STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: What's happening?? > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. hi layla well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out hawkwind...........!!! but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. your inbox will be filled with......... andre From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 11 11:16:50 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:16:50 -0500 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: EXCELLENT. I will probably let you know near the end of the week. I will probably have you and someone else do it. Then I will tree the best one. So far you are the one. No one else has offered. THANK YOU STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen [mailto:colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:14 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH I would be happy to digitise it. From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 11 11:17:24 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:17:24 -0500 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH Message-ID: COOL CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen [mailto:colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:16 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH Cool! Your CDs should be done by Wednesday:). COLIN From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 11:29:56 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:29:56 +0100 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: I'm off home in 30 mins!!! Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? Hello Stephe!!! >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> I'm here STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: What's happening?? Is there just no one on the list at all... Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! Layla. From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 11:30:43 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:30:43 +0100 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: bombarded with mail from where??!?! What am I missing!?? Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many lists. EEEEEKK -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm on that list too!!!! Nothing much happening there either!! Layla >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: >I'm here STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: What's happening?? > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. hi layla well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out hawkwind...........!!! but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. your inbox will be filled with......... andre From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 11:31:12 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:31:12 +0100 Subject: off Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: really???? Was it fun?? Tell me ALL about it! Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/11/01 04:08pm >>> Oh - orgies - explosions - fancy dress - you name it its happened today tee hee Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:23 AM Subject: Re: What's happening?? > HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS > STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > Hello Stephe!!! > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> > I'm here STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: What's happening?? > > > Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 11 11:33:52 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:03:52 +0930 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: Hey hey hey!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:28 AM Subject: Re: What's happening?? > I'm on that list too!!!! > > Nothing much happening there either!! > > Layla > > > >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> > At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: > >I'm here STEPHE > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > Layla. > > hi layla > > well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. > they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out hawkwind...........!!! > but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. > go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. > your inbox will be filled with......... > > andre > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 11:36:59 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:36:59 +0100 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: hi mikey >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/11/01 03:11pm >>> Hiya! ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 PM Subject: What's happening?? > Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 11 11:38:07 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:38:07 -0500 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left alone. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm off home in 30 mins!!! Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? Hello Stephe!!! >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> I'm here STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: What's happening?? Is there just no one on the list at all... Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! Layla. From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 11 11:41:37 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:41:37 -0500 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: I'm on 5 different lists, plus friends are usually getting on their pc's about now. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? bombarded with mail from where??!?! What am I missing!?? Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many lists. EEEEEKK -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm on that list too!!!! Nothing much happening there either!! Layla >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: >I'm here STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: What's happening?? > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. hi layla well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out hawkwind...........!!! but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. your inbox will be filled with......... andre From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 12:05:13 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:13 +0100 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: yeah, i know the feeling!! work sucks. It's like being in a cold hell, with pay! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:38pm >>> I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left alone. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm off home in 30 mins!!! Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? Hello Stephe!!! >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> I'm here STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: What's happening?? Is there just no one on the list at all... Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! Layla. From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 12:05:45 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:45 +0100 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: five lists??!?! All to the one email address?? That would drive me nuts! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:41pm >>> I'm on 5 different lists, plus friends are usually getting on their pc's about now. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? bombarded with mail from where??!?! What am I missing!?? Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many lists. EEEEEKK -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm on that list too!!!! Nothing much happening there either!! Layla >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: >I'm here STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: What's happening?? > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. hi layla well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out hawkwind...........!!! but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. your inbox will be filled with......... andre From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 12:06:22 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:06:22 +0100 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: Hey hey hey!!!!! What??!?!! >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/11/01 04:33pm >>> Hey hey hey!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:28 AM Subject: Re: What's happening?? > I'm on that list too!!!! > > Nothing much happening there either!! > > Layla > > > >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> > At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: > >I'm here STEPHE > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > Layla. > > hi layla > > well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. > they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out hawkwind...........!!! > but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. > go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. > your inbox will be filled with......... > > andre > From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 11 12:07:34 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:07:34 -0500 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: Yes It is nuts. I'm about to drop 2 of them and just keep the HAWKWIND ones. I had 168 messages this morning. All from a 20 hour period. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:06 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? five lists??!?! All to the one email address?? That would drive me nuts! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:41pm >>> I'm on 5 different lists, plus friends are usually getting on their pc's about now. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? bombarded with mail from where??!?! What am I missing!?? Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many lists. EEEEEKK -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm on that list too!!!! Nothing much happening there either!! Layla >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: >I'm here STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: What's happening?? > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. hi layla well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out hawkwind...........!!! but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. your inbox will be filled with......... andre From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Mon Jun 11 12:19:03 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:19:03 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Rocking Don Hill's 6/8/01 Message-ID: >Saw neither hide nor hair of you and Jeff after >surgery. For those who stayed for the >rest of the >bands, Al, Dave and Deb filled the time mostly by >talking to fans. As usual, they were accessible, >informative and gracious. I'm sure they were. They are the three friendliest rock people I know. I wish I could have stayed to chat, but my usual "cutting a rug" (whose umm... uniqueness Brian and Theo can attest to) + the lack of O2 and other fun medical things made it necessary to go and breathe for a bit, nto to mention collapse into slumber soon after departing. Got home around 4 nonetheless. a good hour to come home to - the dawn was on the verge of breaking. >The bands to play post-op tBS were considerably better >then what we heard before (I even bought a CD from a >band called "Daddy", very gothic, in the spirit of >Black Sabbath in their infancy). Not my kind of thing, >but it sounded real good that night. Cool! That does sound like a fun band. > >I've seen tBS 5 times now. Expecting the worst >because of their self-description on their web site, >Don Hill's was by far tBS best venue I have witnessed. Including Don Hill's, it marks my 6th time out to see the band,in all 3 tiers of the great empire state no less! The Haunt in Ithaca was a great locale too. Nice quirkful (?) atmosphere. -- the show they did the day after Christmas in 97(?) was a KILLER. Everyone was on full throttle, get set list, and a jam packed floor with fans. someone video taped that. They're in their element with an appreciative audience. The second show there was good too -- heard Vera Gemini live and perennial list fave "Needle Gun" was awesome (after all, Deb let me sing the chorus heheheh! man that was cool!) >to operate), and the patrons and employees civil (extremely civil for a Fri in NYC and I >was well maintained by the waitress who made sure I got their tBS flier, a nice 18*24 >suitable for framing). Well, we were at a waitress svc. only table :)But yes, the service was attentive and the decor was quite cool. the poster was similar to the Meow Mix postcard -- but with Medusa's heade from Trepanation on a guitar playing body. In colour! (just like the dire "Batman: the movie" w/Adam West that I caught on the TV yesterday. yikes!) >(Albert said they have been practicing more and recording their practices) Good idea! >critic, but Dave is certainly doing fine with that >horrid green bass guitar, suitable for painting (just kidding, Dave). My favorite description of Mr. Hirschberg was said by Albert, "He's a jamming fool!" >guitar? He was quite smooth, more comfortable and >animated playing it this last time out. He's been>practicing. The songs he did play guitar on had a good swing to get into on guitar duty, too. Lucky guy! besides, How could you NOT enjoy playing Sinful Love? >And the good news is that there just could be a return >to them thar Hill's. Of course nothing is certain, but >after the summer tour something might happen at Don Hill's again. 'Twould be super if so. and, last but not least Good meeting you, Joe! Jason - Blasting the rafters in Albany since 1998. NP: Archetype - Helen Wheels. If it hasn't been said here, Jack Rigg is a consummate guitar player. His work on here, Imaginos, and David Roter Method is tasteful, punchy and a perfet fit for whatever kind of song he's playing on. I can feel the thunder. I can hear the roar! From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 11 12:13:18 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:13:18 -0500 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: MY JOB doesn't suck or i would have quit years ago. HA!HA!HA! I like what I do. I am a forklift driver. it can get boring though. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:05 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? yeah, i know the feeling!! work sucks. It's like being in a cold hell, with pay! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:38pm >>> I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left alone. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm off home in 30 mins!!! Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? Hello Stephe!!! >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> I'm here STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: What's happening?? Is there just no one on the list at all... Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! Layla. From bart at ENGAGE.NU Mon Jun 11 12:28:18 2001 From: bart at ENGAGE.NU (Bart Brugmans) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:28:18 +0200 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: oke everybody, for the sake of this list (and my health ;-), could we all please USE OFF: in the subject-line when we are not posting anything relevant? my mailfilters won't work, and that annoys me just a little bit too much. I am on over 25 maillists, so filtering is essential. thanx a lot, Bart On 11 Jun 2001, at 17:05, Layla Thompson wrote: Date sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:45 +0100 Send reply to: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List From: Layla Thompson Subject: Re: What's happening?? To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > five lists??!?! All to the one email address?? > > > That would drive me nuts! > > Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:41pm >>> > I'm on 5 different lists, plus friends are usually getting on their > pc's about now. CHEERS STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > bombarded with mail from where??!?! > > What am I missing!?? > > > Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> > EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many > lists. EEEEEKK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > I'm on that list too!!!! > > Nothing much happening there either!! > > Layla > > > >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> > At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: > >I'm here STEPHE > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > Layla. > > hi layla > > well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. > they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out > hawkwind...........!!! > but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. > go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. > your inbox will be filled with......... > > andre | Nothing to do this summer? | http://www.tao.ca/~ridefree/summithop/ | | ENGAGE! Tactical Media | Bemuurde Weerd WZ3 NL-3513 BH Utrecht | tel: +31 (0)30 2387516 gsm: +31 (0)6 24798780 | fax: +31 (0)30 2387517 http://www.engage.nu From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Mon Jun 11 12:27:21 2001 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:27:21 EDT Subject: BOC Tulsa Show Message-ID: One other thing about the Tulsa show... On Reaper, towards the end of the song, a roadie was kneeling on the stage behind Bobby playing a cowbell into one of the mikes! After the SNL sendup, I was hardpressed to keep from laughing at the sight! From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Jun 11 13:06:10 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:06:10 +0100 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A0E8@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: In article <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A0E8 at hermes.marketday.co m>, Stephen Lindas writes >EXCELLENT. I will probably let you know near the end of the week. I will >probably have you and someone else do it. Then I will tree the best one. So >far you are the one. No one else has offered. THANK YOU STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Colin Allen [mailto:colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:14 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: SILICON GULCH > > >I would be happy to digitise it. > I can convert it to CD and improve the quality if you want 2 versions for comparison. -- David Blair From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Jun 11 13:12:18 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:12:18 -0400 Subject: BOC Tulsa Show In-Reply-To: <22.174a533f.28564b69@aol.com> Message-ID: Rocker22 wrote: > One other thing about the Tulsa show... > > On Reaper, towards the end of the song, a roadie was kneeling on the stage > behind Bobby playing a cowbell into one of the mikes! > > After the SNL sendup, I was hardpressed to keep from laughing at the sight! Last year when a bunch of us BOC-Lers met up in Albany, NY, an audience member brought a cow bell and kept banging it all through the song (as a send-up to the SNL skit, I'm sure). The band looked mildly annoyed, but resigned to it. It was a pretty funny at first, but I ended up a little more than mildly annoyed.... So anyway, I guess the band finally decided to fight fire with fire. ;-) Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 11 13:29:20 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:59:20 +0930 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: girlies :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:06 AM Subject: Re: What's happening?? > hi mikey > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/11/01 03:11pm >>> > Hiya! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Layla Thompson > To: > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 PM > Subject: What's happening?? > > > > Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > > HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > Layla. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 11 13:29:59 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:59:59 +0930 Subject: off Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: one day ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:01 AM Subject: Re: off Re: What's happening?? > really???? > > > Was it fun?? > > Tell me ALL about it! > > Layla > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/11/01 04:08pm >>> > Oh - orgies - explosions - fancy dress - you name it its happened today > > tee hee > > Mb > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Lindas > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:23 AM > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS > > STEPHE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > Hello Stephe!!! > > > > > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> > > I'm here STEPHE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > > Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > > HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > Layla. > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 11 13:30:33 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:00:33 +0930 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: Why? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:08 AM Subject: Re: What's happening?? > I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left > alone. STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > I'm off home in 30 mins!!! > > Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! > > > Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> > HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS > STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > Hello Stephe!!! > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> > I'm here STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: What's happening?? > > > Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 11 13:31:41 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:01:41 +0930 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: hey hey hey - here I am to liven up your day! hey ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:36 AM Subject: Re: What's happening?? > Hey hey hey!!!!! What??!?!! > > > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/11/01 04:33pm >>> > Hey hey hey!!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Layla Thompson > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:28 AM > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > I'm on that list too!!!! > > > > Nothing much happening there either!! > > > > Layla > > > > > > >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> > > At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: > > >I'm here STEPHE > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > > > Layla. > > > > hi layla > > > > well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. > > they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out > hawkwind...........!!! > > but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. > > go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. > > your inbox will be filled with......... > > > > andre > > > From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Jun 11 13:32:50 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:32:50 -0400 Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal? In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F6615@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: Jason wrote: > We might as well have a whip round (its really lovely ill keep it and > cherish it forever) for Eric since we've done best guitar solo etc. every > oyster boy has his day, no? Best Eric vocal moments: "Hey, Alright, Get down" from live Harvester Original Astronomy and Astronomy live from Some Enchanted Evening Veteran of the Psychic Wars (Don't let these shakes go onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...) The Japanese bit in Godzilla Tatoo Vampire (ah-ah-ah-ah-Vampire photo suckin' the skin!) The distorted voice of the black blade: "My master is my slave. ha ha ha ha" (I assume this was Eric?) Best stun guitar songs: Subhuman live Lips in the Hills (I think Eric's on the intro chords) Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 11 13:34:05 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:04:05 +0930 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: imagine if everyone on all his lists replied to him to say Ok man - no problem - I'll do it just for you tee hee read below if necessary>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bart Brugmans To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:58 AM Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > oke everybody, for the sake of this list (and my health ;-), could we > all please USE OFF: in the subject-line when we are not posting > anything relevant? > > my mailfilters won't work, and that annoys me just a little bit too > much. I am on over 25 maillists, so filtering is essential. > > thanx a lot, > Bart > > On 11 Jun 2001, at 17:05, Layla Thompson wrote: > > Date sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:45 +0100 > Send reply to: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > From: Layla Thompson > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > five lists??!?! All to the one email address?? > > > > > > That would drive me nuts! > > > > Layla > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:41pm >>> > > I'm on 5 different lists, plus friends are usually getting on their > > pc's about now. CHEERS STEPHE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > bombarded with mail from where??!?! > > > > What am I missing!?? > > > > > > Layla > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> > > EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many > > lists. EEEEEKK > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > I'm on that list too!!!! > > > > Nothing much happening there either!! > > > > Layla > > > > > > >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> > > At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: > > >I'm here STEPHE > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > > > Layla. > > > > hi layla > > > > well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. > > they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out > > hawkwind...........!!! > > but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. > > go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. > > your inbox will be filled with......... > > > > andre > > > > | Nothing to do this summer? > | http://www.tao.ca/~ridefree/summithop/ > | > | ENGAGE! Tactical Media > | Bemuurde Weerd WZ3 NL-3513 BH Utrecht > | tel: +31 (0)30 2387516 gsm: +31 (0)6 24798780 > | fax: +31 (0)30 2387517 http://www.engage.nu From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Mon Jun 11 13:38:53 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:38:53 -0400 Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal? Message-ID: >Best Eric vocal moments: >"Hey, Alright, Get down" from live Harvester >Original Astronomy and Astronomy live from Some Enchanted Evening >Veteran of the Psychic Wars (Don't let these shakes go >onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...) >The Japanese bit in Godzilla >Tatoo Vampire (ah-ah-ah-ah-Vampire photo suckin' the skin!) >The distorted voice of the black blade: "My master is my >slave. ha ha ha ha" >(I assume this was Eric?) I forgot to include his strange lounge act-ish vocals on Workshop of the Telescopes off of the Bootleg EP. I think the distorted Blade voice is Eric. From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Mon Jun 11 13:42:11 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:42:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: Please please please can you people reply off-list to one another if you don't have something to say that generally concerns Hawkwind and or BOC? There have been hundreds of mails recently that quote an entire off-topic message and then reply with only one or two words... John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > imagine if everyone on all his lists replied to him to say > > Ok man - no problem - I'll do it just for you > > tee hee > > read below if necessary>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bart Brugmans > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:58 AM > Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > > > > oke everybody, for the sake of this list (and my health ;-), could we > > all please USE OFF: in the subject-line when we are not posting > > anything relevant? > > > > my mailfilters won't work, and that annoys me just a little bit too > > much. I am on over 25 maillists, so filtering is essential. > > > > thanx a lot, > > Bart > > > > On 11 Jun 2001, at 17:05, Layla Thompson wrote: > > > > Date sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:45 +0100 > > Send reply to: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > > From: Layla Thompson > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > > five lists??!?! All to the one email address?? > > > > > > > > > That would drive me nuts! > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:41pm >>> > > > I'm on 5 different lists, plus friends are usually getting on their > > > pc's about now. CHEERS STEPHE > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > bombarded with mail from where??!?! > > > > > > What am I missing!?? > > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> > > > EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many > > > lists. EEEEEKK > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > I'm on that list too!!!! > > > > > > Nothing much happening there either!! > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > > >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> > > > At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: > > > >I'm here STEPHE > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > > > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > > > > > Layla. > > > > > > hi layla > > > > > > well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. > > > they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out > > > hawkwind...........!!! > > > but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. > > > go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. > > > your inbox will be filled with......... > > > > > > andre > > > > > > > > | Nothing to do this summer? > > | http://www.tao.ca/~ridefree/summithop/ > > | > > | ENGAGE! Tactical Media > > | Bemuurde Weerd WZ3 NL-3513 BH Utrecht > > | tel: +31 (0)30 2387516 gsm: +31 (0)6 24798780 > > | fax: +31 (0)30 2387517 http://www.engage.nu > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jun 11 13:51:05 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:21:05 +0930 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: thats why we have off in the subject line peace ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:12 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > Please please please can you people reply off-list to one another if you > don't have something to say that generally concerns Hawkwind and or BOC? > There have been hundreds of mails recently that quote an entire off-topic > message and then reply with only one or two words... > John Majka > jmajka2 at home.com > > > > > imagine if everyone on all his lists replied to him to say > > > > Ok man - no problem - I'll do it just for you > > > > tee hee > > > > read below if necessary>>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bart Brugmans > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:58 AM > > Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > oke everybody, for the sake of this list (and my health ;-), could we > > > all please USE OFF: in the subject-line when we are not posting > > > anything relevant? > > > > > > my mailfilters won't work, and that annoys me just a little bit too > > > much. I am on over 25 maillists, so filtering is essential. > > > > > > thanx a lot, > > > Bart > > > > > > On 11 Jun 2001, at 17:05, Layla Thompson wrote: > > > > > > Date sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:45 +0100 > > > Send reply to: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > > > > From: Layla Thompson > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > > > > five lists??!?! All to the one email address?? > > > > > > > > > > > > That would drive me nuts! > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:41pm >>> > > > > I'm on 5 different lists, plus friends are usually getting on their > > > > pc's about now. CHEERS STEPHE > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM > > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > bombarded with mail from where??!?! > > > > > > > > What am I missing!?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> > > > > EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many > > > > lists. EEEEEKK > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM > > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm on that list too!!!! > > > > > > > > Nothing much happening there either!! > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> > > > > At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >I'm here STEPHE > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > > > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > > > > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > > > > > > > Layla. > > > > > > > > hi layla > > > > > > > > well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. > > > > they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out > > > > hawkwind...........!!! > > > > but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. > > > > go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. > > > > your inbox will be filled with......... > > > > > > > > andre > > > > > > > > > > > > | Nothing to do this summer? > > > | http://www.tao.ca/~ridefree/summithop/ > > > | > > > | ENGAGE! Tactical Media > > > | Bemuurde Weerd WZ3 NL-3513 BH Utrecht > > > | tel: +31 (0)30 2387516 gsm: +31 (0)6 24798780 > > > | fax: +31 (0)30 2387517 http://www.engage.nu > > From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Jun 11 13:49:49 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:49:49 +0100 Subject: Donington Message-ID: In a vain attempt to bring the list back to some semblance of reality, is anyone on here going to Donington next week? Captain Bl at ck. From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 14:09:28 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:09:28 +0100 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: WOW!!!! What other lists are you on?? Anything interesting?? Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 05:07pm >>> Yes It is nuts. I'm about to drop 2 of them and just keep the HAWKWIND ones. I had 168 messages this morning. All from a 20 hour period. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:06 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? five lists??!?! All to the one email address?? That would drive me nuts! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:41pm >>> I'm on 5 different lists, plus friends are usually getting on their pc's about now. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? bombarded with mail from where??!?! What am I missing!?? Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many lists. EEEEEKK -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm on that list too!!!! Nothing much happening there either!! Layla >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: >I'm here STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: What's happening?? > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. hi layla well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out hawkwind...........!!! but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. your inbox will be filled with......... andre From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 14:11:17 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:11:17 +0100 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: How come you're on the net in a forklift truck!??!?!?!?! Am I missing something here?? Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 05:13pm >>> MY JOB doesn't suck or i would have quit years ago. HA!HA!HA! I like what I do. I am a forklift driver. it can get boring though. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:05 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? yeah, i know the feeling!! work sucks. It's like being in a cold hell, with pay! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:38pm >>> I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left alone. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm off home in 30 mins!!! Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? Hello Stephe!!! >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> I'm here STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: What's happening?? Is there just no one on the list at all... Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! Layla. From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 14:13:20 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:13:20 +0100 Subject: off Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: awwwww.....spoil my fun! >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/11/01 06:29pm >>> one day ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:01 AM Subject: Re: off Re: What's happening?? > really???? > > > Was it fun?? > > Tell me ALL about it! > > Layla > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/11/01 04:08pm >>> > Oh - orgies - explosions - fancy dress - you name it its happened today > > tee hee > > Mb > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Lindas > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:23 AM > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS > > STEPHE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > Hello Stephe!!! > > > > > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> > > I'm here STEPHE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > > Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > > HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > Layla. > > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jun 11 14:59:27 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:59:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: HW - Who's the daddy? -Vote Andy G!!! Message-ID: hey Stuart - dunno what you wrote - can't wait to see it - actually, dunno what I wrote either - I thought I was writing it for some 100 circulation fanzine before they told me it was a National Mag - hope it reads OK but we'll see - as to the Hollywood Mansion and coke, a villa in the South of Spain with a Tequila Sunrise will do me just fine.... .........and to Layla, plenty of Hawkwind gossip right here at CDS Towers, but nothing repeatable right now as it's all just rumours.... .........and to Doug Pearson, the rip-roaring, brain-mincing, railroad of a CD that is deafening me to the hilt right now, for which I forgot who it was last week, is the new CD by Maximum Indifference with an incredibly pretentious title but just mind-blowing and in stock at CDS any day. Toodle-pips Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zeitgeist" To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:36 AM Subject: OFF: Who's the daddy? > Well it must be either me or Andy G. > > The June 2001 issue of Get Rhythm has a third of a page each devoted to me > (Zeitgeist) and Andys CD Services. > > Available at all major UK newstands (HMV and Virgin too) for a humbel ?2.95 > (humbel looks so much better spelt that way). > > So you'd better speak to Andy and myself now, before we isolate ourselves > in our respective Hollywood Hills mansions, and are too coked up to > remember (or indeed care) who you are. > > > Stuart From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jun 11 15:01:47 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:01:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: sorreeee- will attempt to comply! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Brugmans" To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:28 PM Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > oke everybody, for the sake of this list (and my health ;-), could we > all please USE OFF: in the subject-line when we are not posting > anything relevant? > > my mailfilters won't work, and that annoys me just a little bit too > much. I am on over 25 maillists, so filtering is essential. > > thanx a lot, > Bart > > On 11 Jun 2001, at 17:05, Layla Thompson wrote: > > Date sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:45 +0100 > Send reply to: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > From: Layla Thompson > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > five lists??!?! All to the one email address?? > > > > > > That would drive me nuts! > > > > Layla > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:41pm >>> > > I'm on 5 different lists, plus friends are usually getting on their > > pc's about now. CHEERS STEPHE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > bombarded with mail from where??!?! > > > > What am I missing!?? > > > > > > Layla > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> > > EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many > > lists. EEEEEKK > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > I'm on that list too!!!! > > > > Nothing much happening there either!! > > > > Layla > > > > > > >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> > > At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: > > >I'm here STEPHE > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > > > Layla. > > > > hi layla > > > > well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. > > they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out > > hawkwind...........!!! > > but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. > > go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. > > your inbox will be filled with......... > > > > andre > > > > | Nothing to do this summer? > | http://www.tao.ca/~ridefree/summithop/ > | > | ENGAGE! Tactical Media > | Bemuurde Weerd WZ3 NL-3513 BH Utrecht > | tel: +31 (0)30 2387516 gsm: +31 (0)6 24798780 > | fax: +31 (0)30 2387517 http://www.engage.nu From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jun 11 15:04:52 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:04:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: actually I must admit I don't mind the 'irrelevant' postings one bit - entertaining and fun - you can't have facts all the time - and what else is the delete button there for, anyway?? Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mich at el B" To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:34 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > imagine if everyone on all his lists replied to him to say > > Ok man - no problem - I'll do it just for you > > tee hee > > read below if necessary>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bart Brugmans > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:58 AM > Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > > > > oke everybody, for the sake of this list (and my health ;-), could we > > all please USE OFF: in the subject-line when we are not posting > > anything relevant? > > > > my mailfilters won't work, and that annoys me just a little bit too > > much. I am on over 25 maillists, so filtering is essential. > > > > thanx a lot, > > Bart > > > > On 11 Jun 2001, at 17:05, Layla Thompson wrote: > > > > Date sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:45 +0100 > > Send reply to: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > > From: Layla Thompson > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > > five lists??!?! All to the one email address?? > > > > > > > > > That would drive me nuts! > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:41pm >>> > > > I'm on 5 different lists, plus friends are usually getting on their > > > pc's about now. CHEERS STEPHE > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > bombarded with mail from where??!?! > > > > > > What am I missing!?? > > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> > > > EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many > > > lists. EEEEEKK > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > I'm on that list too!!!! > > > > > > Nothing much happening there either!! > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > > >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> > > > At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: > > > >I'm here STEPHE > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > > > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > > > > > Layla. > > > > > > hi layla > > > > > > well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. > > > they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out > > > hawkwind...........!!! > > > but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. > > > go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. > > > your inbox will be filled with......... > > > > > > andre > > > > > > > > | Nothing to do this summer? > > | http://www.tao.ca/~ridefree/summithop/ > > | > > | ENGAGE! Tactical Media > > | Bemuurde Weerd WZ3 NL-3513 BH Utrecht > > | tel: +31 (0)30 2387516 gsm: +31 (0)6 24798780 > > | fax: +31 (0)30 2387517 http://www.engage.nu From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 14:41:05 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:41:05 +0100 Subject: Donington In-Reply-To: Captain Bl@ck's message of Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:49:49 +0100 Message-ID: Captain Bl at ck writes: > In a vain attempt to bring the list back to some semblance of reality, = > is anyone on here going to Donington next week? Is it this weekend? Which night are the Hawks playing, and are they definitely playing? FoFP From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Jun 11 14:59:53 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:59:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? In-Reply-To: <012d01c0f2a9$65d31120$4711bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: => actually I must admit I don't mind the 'irrelevant' postings one bit - => entertaining and fun - you can't have facts all the time - and what else is => the delete button there for, anyway?? Don't you know? The delete button is there to trim away the parts below "----- Original Message -----" that are not pertinent to the reply, Andy. Try it some time. I've always found the "use the delete button" a specious argument at the best of times. My delete button has been taking a hammering lately, which is worrying: my computer is an old DEC 3000/300 system, and I don't think you can get DEC LK201 keyboards anymore. So, once my delete key wears out, I'm up the creek... :-( => From: "Mich at el B" => Subject: Re: OFF: Re: What's happening?? => => > imagine if everyone on all his lists replied to him to say => > => > Ok man - no problem - I'll do it just for you => > => > tee hee That was so funny, I wet myself. But actually, that would be great, if they kept their promise. I'm sure he'd brook a short term inconvenience to alleviate a long term improvement in the signal to noise ratio. Personally, I've found procmail to be my saviour as of late. It's cut down a lot of the "irrelevant postings" coming from this list. When I read up on the scoring function, I'm sure I'll be able to tweak it to be a bit less heavy handed with the redirection to /dev/null, but there's no hurry as far as I'm concerned... :-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Mon Jun 11 15:14:09 2001 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:14:09 -0700 Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal? Message-ID: I've always enjoyed Eric's rap in "R.U. Ready 2 Rock" on SEE; "We come down here to Atlanta just for one reason. Thats to ask you this question...", the "Hey, alright" bit from OYFOOYK. And last but not least, also from OYFOOYK, "I know Lucifer so well, I can call him by his first name..." As far as straight ahead vocal performance (in studio) goes, for Eric, I'd have to say either Black Blade, Joan Crawford or ETI. Stun guitar? If the intro to the ST version of Harvester was Eric, then I choose that.. Or the little intro (or was it an outro from the previous song?) to & Screamning diz-busters on Tyranny & Mutation. Dunno if it was EB or not but it sure sounds like "stun" guitar to me :) JB Trim your posts, its the right thing to do and us digest folks will love you. "This is a song about vegetables. They keep you regular and they're really good for you..." - FZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:32:50 -0400 From: Brian Halligan Subject: Re: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal? Jason wrote: > We might as well have a whip round (its really lovely ill keep it and > cherish it forever) for Eric since we've done best guitar solo etc. every > oyster boy has his day, no? Best Eric vocal moments: "Hey, Alright, Get down" from live Harvester Original Astronomy and Astronomy live from Some Enchanted Evening Veteran of the Psychic Wars (Don't let these shakes go onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...) The Japanese bit in Godzilla Tatoo Vampire (ah-ah-ah-ah-Vampire photo suckin' the skin!) The distorted voice of the black blade: "My master is my slave. ha ha ha ha" (I assume this was Eric?) Best stun guitar songs: Subhuman live Lips in the Hills (I think Eric's on the intro chords) Brian From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Jun 11 15:26:22 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:26:22 EDT Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal? In-Reply-To: <4973895A322CD411A6B000A0C96E96112074E4@C2> Message-ID: On 11 Jun 2001, at 12:14, Joseph Brooks wrote: > I've always enjoyed Eric's rap in "R.U. Ready 2 Rock" on SEE; "We come > down here to Atlanta just for one reason. Thats to ask you this > question...", the "Hey, alright" bit from OYFOOYK. And last but not > least, also from OYFOOYK, "I know Lucifer so well, I can call him by > his first name..." As far as straight ahead vocal performance (in > studio) goes, for Eric, I'd have to say either Black Blade, Joan > Crawford or ETI. > Most [in]famous: The legalize weed/change the speed limit rap ca. 1976, and captured on Live '76... > Stun guitar? If the intro to the ST version of Harvester was Eric, > then I choose that.. Or the little intro (or was it an outro from the > previous song?) to & Screamning diz-busters on Tyranny & Mutation. > Dunno if it was EB or not but it sure sounds like "stun" guitar to me > :) My best stun-guitar experiences would have to be live ones. At the head of the list would be a performance at Saratoga, early on, either the Secret Treaties tour or OYFooYK. EB's stun guitar on Flaming Telepaths was skin-peeling. He was cranking through a Hi-Watt stack that day, and he must have borrowed it from Townshend or Ritchie Blackmore, because my ear was buzzing for a week! BTW, anyone know why BD's guitar is frequently not as loud as EB's or AL's at concerts? theo From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Mon Jun 11 15:26:16 2001 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (blueskin69) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:26:16 +0100 Subject: Donington Message-ID: Yes i'm going, cant wait, hope it's a good one. Cheers Gordon. "Captain Bl at ck" wrote: > In a vain attempt to bring the list back to some semblance of reality, is anyone on here going to Donington next week? > > Captain Bl at ck. From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Mon Jun 11 15:29:31 2001 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (blueskin69) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:29:31 +0100 Subject: Donington Message-ID: It's not this weekend it's a week on Thursday coming that the campsite opens and Hawkwind are playing on the Friday night thats the 22nd. Cheers Gordon. M Holmes wrote: > Captain Bl at ck writes: > > > In a vain attempt to bring the list back to some semblance of reality, = > > is anyone on here going to Donington next week? > > Is it this weekend? Which night are the Hawks playing, and are they > definitely playing? > > FoFP From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jun 11 15:50:29 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:50:29 -0400 Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal? Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:26:22 EDT, Ted Jackson wrote: >Most [in]famous: The legalize weed/change the speed limit rap ca. >1976, and captured on Live '76... I'll second that one! Heck, I like that one so much that I've delivered it from stage, myself. But it sure felt weird to be talking about writing a letter to mr. Carter there in the White House in 1999! And hey, one out of two in the course of 20 years ain't so bad ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jun 11 18:06:20 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:06:20 -0400 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... Message-ID: I for one am glad that McVeigh is on dead and a crispy critter!! I think they should show the execution of this rat bastard scumbag of ultimate proportions on all 3 major networks during prime time hours. Maybe, that would send a message to any others w/ such ideas that we show no sympathy toward terrorists. I hope someone w/ a gas powered leaf blower shows up when they are spreading his ashes. I will be driving through Terra Haute next month. Maybe, I will get outta my car and dance a jig. No Remorse! D _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jun 11 19:16:51 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:16:51 -0600 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "NO REGRET!" WE DON'T CARE"!! "WHAT IT MEANT!" "ANOTHER DAY!" "ANOTHER DEATH!" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Jun 11 22:07:52 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:07:52 EDT Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... Message-ID: Well. ================== In a message dated 6/11/01 6:06:54 PM, dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM writes: << for one am glad that McVeigh is on dead and a crispy critter!!>> even had he been electrocuted, he would not have been rendered unto ash. he received a lethal injexion. === <> ==== last fall, in afghanistan, 15,000 people filled a stadium for the public execution of a woman; a mother of 7 who took a sledgehammer to her husband one night as he slept. i gotta believe her living hell was finally over. ====== <> ===== comrade, this will=not=matter. islamic militants believe that their death is their ticket to heaven. they laugh at your 'sympathy'. (qualified by noting Mcveigh was not an islamic militant; he'll wind up in the same sentence as 'waco' and 'ruby ridge') ====== <> ==== what does Terre Haute have to do with this? ==== <> == you're not done hearing from him; i refer back to today's subject title. == other than BOC-L, i spend a lot of time at a place called the Underground Serb Cafe...basically where i go to fight the haters, the anti-semites, the sick and twisted... that's where i go to _fight_; not a nice place at all. but Mcveigh will be a hero to portions of that world. that's the kind of world it is. closer than we think; ask they who found out in okc. "<>" ====== Underground Serbian Cafe #1 kim-spy: Intelligence and CounterIntelligence Kolisrael.com [news, etc.] From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jun 12 02:08:07 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:08:07 -0000 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors Message-ID: hawkwinds,warrior on the edge of time,with black knight on 1 edge of cliffs,what do you want.18/22,6,2001,i am on holiday,can pick it up,klkirk64 at hotmail.com >From: "Trev (Judge)" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors >Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:28:57 -0000 > >yeah you got both and they're both crap > > >>From: mike c >>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >>Subject: Re: HW: Hairy Warriors >>Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:46:54 -0600 >> >> have copies of both of these (if I wasn't clear....possibly only 1 or 2 >>red-shift) >> where's hairless warrior....???? >>kering thort kirk >> >> "curse and damn you, all you fall by the hands of the sinner"... >>time = ss/pc ratio >> (but I'll lift you out of the pit when the Warrior is delivered) >>i have 21 albums and need it on cd lost vinal >> mike c, who is JOKING ....(but not about bainbridge stash) >>i have his so fucked up every where i go keith p.s. that kid >> >>******************************************************************************** >>I confess.....this is the strangest post I have ever seen.. >> >>I thought I was weird. >> >>m >> >>no hairless warrior to trade for CD then??? > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 12 03:32:57 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:02:57 +0930 Subject: Donington Message-ID: campsite? ----- Original Message ----- From: blueskin69 To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:59 AM Subject: Re: Donington > It's not this weekend it's a week on Thursday coming that the campsite opens > and Hawkwind are playing on the Friday night thats the 22nd. > > Cheers > Gordon. > > M Holmes wrote: > > > Captain Bl at ck writes: > > > > > In a vain attempt to bring the list back to some semblance of reality, = > > > is anyone on here going to Donington next week? > > > > Is it this weekend? Which night are the Hawks playing, and are they > > definitely playing? > > > > FoFP > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jun 12 04:28:09 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:28:09 -0400 Subject: Donington Message-ID: Yes, me! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 12 05:24:11 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:54:11 +0930 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... Message-ID: the devils music martha - the devils muzak \ ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:46 AM Subject: Re: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... > "NO REGRET!" > WE DON'T CARE"!! > > "WHAT IT MEANT!" > > "ANOTHER DAY!" > "ANOTHER DEATH!" From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jun 12 05:29:59 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:29:59 -0500 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: NO I have an office too!!! Not sure why but I won't complain. I load trucks when I first come in and then I do my paperwork. I should have said I'm a warehouse worker, but mostly I work on a forklift. Does that make more sense? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:11 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? How come you're on the net in a forklift truck!??!?!?!?! Am I missing something here?? Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 05:13pm >>> MY JOB doesn't suck or i would have quit years ago. HA!HA!HA! I like what I do. I am a forklift driver. it can get boring though. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:05 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? yeah, i know the feeling!! work sucks. It's like being in a cold hell, with pay! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:38pm >>> I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left alone. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm off home in 30 mins!!! Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? Hello Stephe!!! >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> I'm here STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: What's happening?? Is there just no one on the list at all... Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! Layla. From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Tue Jun 12 05:52:43 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:52:43 +0100 Subject: Donington Message-ID: "Captain Bl at ck" wrote: > In a vain attempt to bring the list back to some semblance of reality, is anyone on here going to Donington next week? > > Captain Bl at ck. If work will let me have the time off then I'll be there... Shall we meet up? Keef From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 12 07:15:54 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:15:54 +0100 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... In-Reply-To: Darrin McKeehen's message of Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:06:20 -0400 Message-ID: Darrin McKeehen writes: > I for one am glad that McVeigh is on dead and a crispy critter!! > > I think they should show the execution of this rat bastard scumbag of > ultimate proportions on all 3 major networks during prime time hours. I'm reservedly in favour of that. If the yanks are happy for their government to kill people in their name, then watching it might be salutory. My reservations are that there are some folks just as twisted as McVeigh was who would not only enjoy this, they'd watch it again and again on tape. And if you're not as angry as McVeigh was that your government killed people, including children, at Ruby Ridge and Waco, then you have problems too. > Maybe, that would send a message to any others w/ such ideas that we > show no sympathy toward terrorists. No, it'd show them someone who they regarded as a martyr. Just imagine that someone had video of JC on the cross and you'll get the idea how it would play. And the idea that the death penalty would stop terrorists is risible at best. The death penalty doesn't even stop drug smugglers in those countries that do this. > > I hope someone w/ a gas powered leaf blower shows up when they are > spreading > his ashes. He's dead. Revenge stops there by definition. All you'd achieve by this is upsetting his family and they're legally IB's. > I will be driving through Terra Haute next month. Maybe, I will get > outta my car and dance a jig. McVeigh's an easy test. Let's see you do it when you execute a retard or a kid. > No Remorse! That's what McVeigh said. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 12 07:23:41 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:23:41 +0100 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... In-Reply-To: DASLUD@AOL.COM's message of Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:07:52 EDT Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > In a message dated 6/11/01 6:06:54 PM, dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM writes: >> for one am glad that McVeigh is on dead and a crispy critter!! > last fall, in afghanistan, 15,000 people filled a stadium for the > public execution of a woman; a mother of 7 who took a sledgehammer to > her husband one night as he slept. A few weeks ago in Iran they executed a woman as a harlot for sleeping with someone while not being married to them. It was public, and she was executed by burying her up to her neck in the ground and allowing the public to throw stones at her face and head until they killed her. >> Maybe, that would send a message to any others w/ such ideas that we >> show no sympathy toward terrorists. Somehow I think the Iranians have got a better handle on tapping into public anger than the yanks. When the yanks can take their invite to Terre Haute and throw stones at a 17 year old girl because she had sex, then we'll be able to take this posturing "pour encourager les autres" as anything more than juvenile. I understand that Newt Gingrinch wanted the death penalty for drug misuse. Do you reckon televising that would show American teenagers what it's really about? FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jun 12 08:25:36 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:25:36 -0600 Subject: HW: Hairy Warriors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "hawkwinds,warrior on the edge of time,with black knight on 1 edge of cliffs,what do you want.18/22,6,2001,i am on holiday,can pick it up,klkirk64 at hotmail.com" Finally, after 26 years, sword-manonkliff leap in bound, go nite nite in happy polystyrene... m From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Jun 12 07:18:22 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:18:22 +0100 Subject: off: RE: What's happening?? Message-ID: Makes lots of sense to me Stephe, I drive a fork-lift and then spend the rest of the day on a PC doing paperwork, yet another cog in the wheels of this monster I work for - Hawkwind should write an album about us. (Then again they may have already done so!!) Sam -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Lindas [mailto:Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM] Sent: 12 June 2001 10:30 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? NO I have an office too!!! Not sure why but I won't complain. I load trucks when I first come in and then I do my paperwork. I should have said I'm a warehouse worker, but mostly I work on a forklift. Does that make more sense? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:11 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? How come you're on the net in a forklift truck!??!?!?!?! Am I missing something here?? Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 05:13pm >>> MY JOB doesn't suck or i would have quit years ago. HA!HA!HA! I like what I do. I am a forklift driver. it can get boring though. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:05 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? yeah, i know the feeling!! work sucks. It's like being in a cold hell, with pay! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:38pm >>> I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left alone. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm off home in 30 mins!!! Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? Hello Stephe!!! >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> I'm here STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: What's happening?? Is there just no one on the list at all... Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! Layla. The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jun 12 07:35:19 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:35:19 -0500 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: There probably is. I will think of it and let you know. All hell is breaking loose now. NO PAPERWORK, DRIVERS WAITING. And its not my fault. HA!HA!HA! STEPHE (mutation zone!!!!) -----Original Message----- From: Samantha Kirwan [mailto:samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:18 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: off: RE: What's happening?? Makes lots of sense to me Stephe, I drive a fork-lift and then spend the rest of the day on a PC doing paperwork, yet another cog in the wheels of this monster I work for - Hawkwind should write an album about us. (Then again they may have already done so!!) Sam -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Lindas [mailto:Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM] Sent: 12 June 2001 10:30 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? NO I have an office too!!! Not sure why but I won't complain. I load trucks when I first come in and then I do my paperwork. I should have said I'm a warehouse worker, but mostly I work on a forklift. Does that make more sense? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:11 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? How come you're on the net in a forklift truck!??!?!?!?! Am I missing something here?? Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 05:13pm >>> MY JOB doesn't suck or i would have quit years ago. HA!HA!HA! I like what I do. I am a forklift driver. it can get boring though. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:05 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? yeah, i know the feeling!! work sucks. It's like being in a cold hell, with pay! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:38pm >>> I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left alone. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm off home in 30 mins!!! Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? Hello Stephe!!! >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> I'm here STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: What's happening?? Is there just no one on the list at all... Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! Layla. The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Jun 12 07:44:54 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:44:54 +0100 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: ooooooooooooo I get ya!! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/12/01 10:29am >>> NO I have an office too!!! Not sure why but I won't complain. I load trucks when I first come in and then I do my paperwork. I should have said I'm a warehouse worker, but mostly I work on a forklift. Does that make more sense? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:11 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? How come you're on the net in a forklift truck!??!?!?!?! Am I missing something here?? Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 05:13pm >>> MY JOB doesn't suck or i would have quit years ago. HA!HA!HA! I like what I do. I am a forklift driver. it can get boring though. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:05 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? yeah, i know the feeling!! work sucks. It's like being in a cold hell, with pay! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:38pm >>> I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left alone. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? I'm off home in 30 mins!!! Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? Hello Stephe!!! >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> I'm here STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: What's happening?? Is there just no one on the list at all... Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! Layla. From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Tue Jun 12 07:59:59 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:59:59 -0400 Subject: BOC: King Biscuit and Paul Orofino Message-ID: One would think that with the deluge of BOC discs out this spring/summer that King Biscuit would jump on the bandwagon and get their disc on the marketplace sometime soon. Has anyone heard anything? Btw, we should definitely not forget to applaud Paul Orofino for his work on this and HF -- It looks like the Oyster Boys have found the ideal studio and sound engineer for their sound. Tattoo Vampire by Helen Wheels and the X Brothers was recorded by him too. About time they had a really good engineer, it's like Martin Birch days all over again. Let's hope this continues into the future. Jason From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 12 08:16:31 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:46:31 +0930 Subject: OFF - I think the acid is wearing off - all quiet on the front? OFF Niiiiiiiiche!!! Message-ID: I want you to go accross the street.... and buy me some ORANGE SHEEEEEERRRRBEEERRRRTT!!! From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jun 12 08:31:39 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:31:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: So, Layla, i'm lost abit here. It's Stephe whose driving fork lifts and you're filling your days up at the university of central lancashire.Just guessing. Rob, deep in the Wastelands of Sleep. >From: Layla Thompson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:44:54 +0100 > >ooooooooooooo I get ya!! > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/12/01 10:29am >>> >NO I have an office too!!! Not sure why but I won't complain. I load trucks >when I first come in and then I do my paperwork. I should have said I'm a >warehouse worker, but mostly I work on a forklift. Does that make more >sense? STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:11 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >How come you're on the net in a forklift truck!??!?!?!?! > >Am I missing something here?? > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 05:13pm >>> >MY JOB doesn't suck or i would have quit years ago. HA!HA!HA! I like what I >do. I am a forklift driver. it can get boring though. STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:05 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >yeah, i know the feeling!! > >work sucks. > >It's like being in a cold hell, with pay! > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:38pm >>> >I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left >alone. STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >I'm off home in 30 mins!!! > >Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! > > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> >HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS >STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >Hello Stephe!!! > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> >I'm here STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: What's happening?? > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 12 08:59:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:29:01 +0930 Subject: hawkwind related - spare a dime for an ex leper? and a joke to entertain those not applying to this post Message-ID: Hello all *** {{{ HERES THE JOKE }}} Mickey mouse files for a divorce from Minnie mouse The Judge says - You can't divorce minnie just because she's stoooopid?? Mickey replies - I didn't say she was stooopid, I said she was fuckin GOOFEY! anyway read on: there are a few people out there {{ you know who you are }} who are awaiting some goods from Moi!! Well just to let you know - I did a big postal mail out today Trades etc - all mailed out today - you WILL be receiving witihn the next week - depending on the mail pheeeeeewwwwww - its been a while for you kind souls and I apologise very sincerely for the wait but I have had some stuff to deal with myself here. The patience and understanding shown by you all is a credit to how cool you are!!! Alas - the wait is at an end Regards Michael 'Serious' From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Tue Jun 12 09:16:50 2001 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:16:50 +0100 Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal? In-Reply-To: <200106111950.PAA01995@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: I like that one about Jeff Beck and Elton John in wheelchairs in the nursing home. Has that ever been released officially? - Mike Godwin From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jun 12 09:24:31 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:24:31 EDT Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12 Jun 2001, at 14:16, Michael R Godwin wrote: > I like that one about Jeff Beck and Elton John in wheelchairs in the > nursing home. Has that ever been released officially? > Haven't heard that. How's it go? Kinda funny since JB's all of 3 years older than EB! theo From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Tue Jun 12 09:25:17 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:25:17 -0400 Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal? Message-ID: > >I like that one about Jeff Beck and Elton John in wheelchairs in the >nursing home. Has that ever been released officially? > >- Mike Godwin If its the same one about selling eric's soulto a man in the shark skin suit, then it could be the one going to be released on the Tyranny remaster. But i cant remember exactly. From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Tue Jun 12 09:43:16 2001 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (Tony HydraulicOrganismGeneratedforAccurateRepair,Destruction) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:43:16 -0500 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... Message-ID: Larry Boyd: > you're not done hearing from him; i refer back to today's subject > title. Then why do you keep wasting bandwith on the twisted monster? It's over. -Hogard From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jun 12 10:10:06 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:10:06 EDT Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... Message-ID: ....havent we been here before.....? really, if you wish to press the issue, i'd rather have 40 or 50 of these off-topic "what's happening?" posts...-_- which d'you spose consumed more bandwith? =========== "<>" Virtual Toke From christmu at EUNET.NO Tue Jun 12 10:18:24 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:18:24 +0200 Subject: OFF: Scenes of Black Sorcery Message-ID: Go unto here for recent additions to the Black Book: http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/tubrok.html Also follow links to the Hawkwind Electric Library and A Disease of The Mind, a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. Chr. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jun 12 11:28:00 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:28:00 -0600 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... In-Reply-To: <108.128de9e.28577cbe@aol.com> Message-ID: I think we "Rebels" should pioneer interactive "executions" on pay-per view...... kinda serve up Death ala "Dave Lee Roth's" ass... things like, gas -button "A", chemicals-button "B", vommiting accident- "C" electrofry-"D" m From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 12 11:22:51 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:52:51 +0930 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... Message-ID: MIKE!!!! what about the >> rabid gerbil - up the gazoo << punishment? ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:58 AM Subject: Re: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... > I think we "Rebels" should pioneer interactive "executions" on pay-per > view...... > > kinda serve up Death ala "Dave Lee Roth's" ass... > > things like, gas -button "A", chemicals-button "B", vommiting accident- "C" > > electrofry-"D" > > m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jun 12 12:35:24 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:35:24 -0600 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... In-Reply-To: <002e01c0f353$8c476c20$4fcb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: -----original message--- "Mich at el B" > rabid gerbil - up the gazoo < The SCOTs used to sow people up in cow corpses and let the maggots eat them to death. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: mike c [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:35 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... -----original message--- "Mich at el B" > rabid gerbil - up the gazoo < > what about the >> rabid gerbil - up the gazoo < > You've just inspired me... > skip the Deaths,,they're too controversial.... > it's interactive punishments on TV with neverending creative flair.... > NO drug offenders of any kind on this though,,,,, > only child molesters PROVEN, killers, violent burglars, etc..... > starting with rat-on-a-string...... > > m how about an ill tempered rat on a string From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 12 11:58:56 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 01:28:56 +0930 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... Message-ID: ooooohhh awright ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 1:08 AM Subject: Re: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... > The SCOTs used to sow people up in cow corpses and let the maggots eat them > to death. STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike c [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:35 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever > oughta been... > > > -----original message--- > "Mich at el B" > "MIKE!!!! > what about the >> rabid gerbil - up the gazoo < > You've just inspired me... > skip the Deaths,,they're too controversial.... > it's interactive punishments on TV with neverending creative flair.... > NO drug offenders of any kind on this though,,,,, > only child molesters PROVEN, killers, violent burglars, etc..... > starting with rat-on-a-string...... > > m > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Jun 12 12:38:52 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:38:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: Why do you guess the University of Central Lancashire??! Layla >>> rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM 06/12/01 01:31pm >>> So, Layla, i'm lost abit here. It's Stephe whose driving fork lifts and you're filling your days up at the university of central lancashire.Just guessing. Rob, deep in the Wastelands of Sleep. >From: Layla Thompson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:44:54 +0100 > >ooooooooooooo I get ya!! > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/12/01 10:29am >>> >NO I have an office too!!! Not sure why but I won't complain. I load trucks >when I first come in and then I do my paperwork. I should have said I'm a >warehouse worker, but mostly I work on a forklift. Does that make more >sense? STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:11 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >How come you're on the net in a forklift truck!??!?!?!?! > >Am I missing something here?? > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 05:13pm >>> >MY JOB doesn't suck or i would have quit years ago. HA!HA!HA! I like what I >do. I am a forklift driver. it can get boring though. STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:05 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >yeah, i know the feeling!! > >work sucks. > >It's like being in a cold hell, with pay! > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:38pm >>> >I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left >alone. STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >I'm off home in 30 mins!!! > >Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! > > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> >HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS >STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >Hello Stephe!!! > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> >I'm here STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: What's happening?? > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jun 12 12:38:48 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:38:48 -0400 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... Message-ID: Subject: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:07:52 EDT << for one am glad that McVeigh is on dead and a crispy critter!!>> even had he been electrocuted, he would not have been rendered unto ash. he received a lethal injexion. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Larry, By "crispy critter" I was alluding to the fact that his remaining corpse was to be cremated. Mike, That's the song that I had in mind ") Back to serious lurk mode. Digester D _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jun 12 12:41:21 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:41:21 -0500 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: I was wondering!! How old are you? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:39 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Why do you guess the University of Central Lancashire??! Layla >>> rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM 06/12/01 01:31pm >>> So, Layla, i'm lost abit here. It's Stephe whose driving fork lifts and you're filling your days up at the university of central lancashire.Just guessing. Rob, deep in the Wastelands of Sleep. >From: Layla Thompson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:44:54 +0100 > >ooooooooooooo I get ya!! > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/12/01 10:29am >>> >NO I have an office too!!! Not sure why but I won't complain. I load trucks >when I first come in and then I do my paperwork. I should have said I'm a >warehouse worker, but mostly I work on a forklift. Does that make more >sense? STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:11 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >How come you're on the net in a forklift truck!??!?!?!?! > >Am I missing something here?? > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 05:13pm >>> >MY JOB doesn't suck or i would have quit years ago. HA!HA!HA! I like what I >do. I am a forklift driver. it can get boring though. STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:05 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >yeah, i know the feeling!! > >work sucks. > >It's like being in a cold hell, with pay! > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:38pm >>> >I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left >alone. STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >I'm off home in 30 mins!!! > >Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! > > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> >HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS >STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >Hello Stephe!!! > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> >I'm here STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: What's happening?? > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 12 12:57:43 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 02:27:43 +0930 Subject: To Kill a Killer - whos gonna kill the killer of the killer - is he justified - who judges who? OFF Message-ID: Ill tempered, starving rats I say - spread jam on em and let the rats go fruity!! on a serious note - I have mixed feelings on the whole issue ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrin McKeehen To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 2:08 AM Subject: Re: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... > Subject: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:07:52 EDT > > << for one am glad that McVeigh is on dead and a crispy critter!!>> > > even had he been electrocuted, he would not have been rendered unto ash. he > received a lethal injexion. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Larry, > > By "crispy critter" I was alluding to the fact that his remaining corpse was > to be cremated. > > Mike, > > That's the song that I had in mind ") > > Back to serious lurk mode. > > Digester > > D > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Tue Jun 12 13:53:30 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:53:30 -0400 Subject: HW Donington Message-ID: zzzzzzzzz... huh what someone mention Hawkwind? Captain Black wrote: > In a vain attempt to bring the list back to some semblance of reality, is anyone on here going to Donington next week? I believe the tickets are ?30 for the two nights, anyone know if tickets are available for just one night ie the night HW are on of course? coz I won't want to see the other bands. Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Jun 12 14:07:16 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:07:16 +0100 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: how old am I??? I am 19. Why? How old are you??! I don't go to uni by the way, I just work here! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/12/01 05:41pm >>> I was wondering!! How old are you? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:39 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Why do you guess the University of Central Lancashire??! Layla >>> rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM 06/12/01 01:31pm >>> So, Layla, i'm lost abit here. It's Stephe whose driving fork lifts and you're filling your days up at the university of central lancashire.Just guessing. Rob, deep in the Wastelands of Sleep. >From: Layla Thompson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:44:54 +0100 > >ooooooooooooo I get ya!! > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/12/01 10:29am >>> >NO I have an office too!!! Not sure why but I won't complain. I load trucks >when I first come in and then I do my paperwork. I should have said I'm a >warehouse worker, but mostly I work on a forklift. Does that make more >sense? STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:11 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >How come you're on the net in a forklift truck!??!?!?!?! > >Am I missing something here?? > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 05:13pm >>> >MY JOB doesn't suck or i would have quit years ago. HA!HA!HA! I like what I >do. I am a forklift driver. it can get boring though. STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:05 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >yeah, i know the feeling!! > >work sucks. > >It's like being in a cold hell, with pay! > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:38pm >>> >I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left >alone. STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >I'm off home in 30 mins!!! > >Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! > > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> >HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS >STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >Hello Stephe!!! > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> >I'm here STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: What's happening?? > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Jun 12 14:14:32 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:14:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: OFF Message-ID: Any one else pissed off with the OFF posts which are just too off. Stuart The crotchety old bastard working a night shift who really wishes that someone would talk about HW and BOC rather than "dude, thats cool". From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jun 12 14:10:57 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:10:57 -0500 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: I'm 37. I was just curious. No real reason. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:07 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: What's happening?? how old am I??? I am 19. Why? How old are you??! I don't go to uni by the way, I just work here! Layla >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/12/01 05:41pm >>> I was wondering!! How old are you? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:39 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Why do you guess the University of Central Lancashire??! Layla >>> rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM 06/12/01 01:31pm >>> So, Layla, i'm lost abit here. It's Stephe whose driving fork lifts and you're filling your days up at the university of central lancashire.Just guessing. Rob, deep in the Wastelands of Sleep. >From: Layla Thompson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:44:54 +0100 > >ooooooooooooo I get ya!! > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/12/01 10:29am >>> >NO I have an office too!!! Not sure why but I won't complain. I load trucks >when I first come in and then I do my paperwork. I should have said I'm a >warehouse worker, but mostly I work on a forklift. Does that make more >sense? STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:11 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >How come you're on the net in a forklift truck!??!?!?!?! > >Am I missing something here?? > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 05:13pm >>> >MY JOB doesn't suck or i would have quit years ago. HA!HA!HA! I like what I >do. I am a forklift driver. it can get boring though. STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:05 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >yeah, i know the feeling!! > >work sucks. > >It's like being in a cold hell, with pay! > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:38pm >>> >I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am left >alone. STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >I'm off home in 30 mins!!! > >Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! > > >Layla > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> >HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS >STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > >Hello Stephe!!! > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> >I'm here STEPHE > >-----Original Message----- >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: What's happening?? > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > Layla. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Tue Jun 12 14:27:08 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:27:08 -0400 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD Message-ID: OK. Back to Hawkwind related talk. Just curious to see which version of the song "Motorhead" people like. The HW version w/Dave singing, with Lemmy, the original Lemmy/Larry Wallis version etc. And why? Dr. Dan From prjt2501 at PTD.NET Tue Jun 12 15:06:58 2001 From: prjt2501 at PTD.NET (Project2501) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:06:58 -0400 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD In-Reply-To: <4327A1883D21D311AC9400508B0A1B9E06AFB0E6@ntguslaexs1.global.jnj.com> Message-ID: Of all the versions I've heard, I think I personally prefer the version of Warrior. I don't know that I have a reason why. I think the fact that Simon House and Nik are on it has something to do with it. I just like thrashing along on my bass to that version more than any of the other versions I have. Just my two cents :-) Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] On Behalf Of Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:27 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW/MOTORHEAD > > > OK. Back to Hawkwind related talk. Just curious to see > which version of the song "Motorhead" people like. The HW > version w/Dave singing, with Lemmy, the original Lemmy/Larry > Wallis version etc. And why? > > Dr. Dan > From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Tue Jun 12 20:17:45 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:17:45 -0400 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD In-Reply-To: <000001c0f372$db324520$412fe518@msns.sm.ptd.net> Message-ID: You mean the Kings of Speed B side? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Project2501 Sent: 12 June 2001 15:07 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW/MOTORHEAD Of all the versions I've heard, I think I personally prefer the version of Warrior. I don't know that I have a reason why. I think the fact that Simon House and Nik are on it has something to do with it. I just like thrashing along on my bass to that version more than any of the other versions I have. Just my two cents :-) Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] On Behalf Of Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:27 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW/MOTORHEAD > > > OK. Back to Hawkwind related talk. Just curious to see > which version of the song "Motorhead" people like. The HW > version w/Dave singing, with Lemmy, the original Lemmy/Larry > Wallis version etc. And why? > > Dr. Dan > From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Tue Jun 12 15:23:24 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:23:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Bristol 31/10/82 vine Message-ID: The .shn disc arrived with me this morning - I seem to be the final stop. Could the originator of this please contact me to let me know what he would like done with the disc(s) now. I've hunted around my e- mail folders and don't seem to be able to find any related info, sorry. Alasdair From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Jun 12 15:37:08 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:37:08 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Jun 2001 - Special issue (#2001-241) In-Reply-To: <200106121805.OAA07440@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Yep, I'm on digest. After 7 years on this list, I don't have the patience to deal with 50+ nonsense messages every day. IT'S A MAILING LIST, GUYS, NOT A FUCKING CHAT ROOM. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jun 12 15:39:55 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:39:55 -0400 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:27:08 -0400, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] wrote: >OK. Back to Hawkwind related talk. Yes, PLEASE! >Just curious to see which version of the song "Motorhead" people like. >The HW version w/Dave singing, with Lemmy, the original >Lemmy/Larry Wallis version etc. And why? Oh man, that's a tough one! EVERY version of that song that Lemmy's on has some redeeming factor that other versions don't have ... * The original "Kings of Speed" B-side (that was also on the US Griffin 'Warrior' CD) has the original Lemmy vocals, and great swirling sax/violin lines that would seem to be out-of-place on the song that was sort of the "blueprint" for Motorhead (the band), but still sound amazingly cool, and unmistkably Hawkwind. * The Flicknife/Dave-sung version has the fantastic tweeter-popping synth noises (Korg MS-20?) that none of the other versions benefit from (and a synth solo that sounds almost like a direct transcription of the guitar solo Eddie Clarke would play on the song). Also undeniably Hawkwind- sounding. * The 'On Parole' (Wallis) version has the best beginning (the revving motorcycle engine leading into the band breaking loose), and Larry contributes the best backing/co-vocals of any of Lemmy's collaborators. * And finally, the live 'No Sleep 'Til Hammersmith' (Clarke) version shreds more than any previous version, and really shows off the song's potential as one of the great HEAVY METAL anthems. So count me as "undecided". But I think I have even more versions of "City Kids" in my music library ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Jun 12 15:54:45 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:54:45 -0400 Subject: OFF: OFF Message-ID: Yea I am. For blah blah I subscribe to the Yahoo Hawkwind group.. and delete most of the messages.. Here I expect music news and talk. Not a glorified chatroom. Mikey Zeitgeist wrote: > > Any one else pissed off with the OFF posts which are just too off. > > Stuart > > The crotchety old bastard working a night shift who really wishes that > someone would talk about HW and BOC rather than "dude, thats cool". -- ___________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Tue Jun 12 16:04:39 2001 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:04:39 -0700 Subject: OFF: TRIM YOUR POSTS!!!! Message-ID: Please, please please... PLEASE.. Trim your posts. Its driving me mad. If you are unaware, those of use who receive this list in digest form get it as one continuous email. That means we are forced to scroll through long threads over and over each time someone replies to it. I don't really mind the off-topic stuff but PLEASE.. there is no need to quote the entire thread just to add a one-liner. If you must quote, please do a kindness and trim away all but what is relevant to your reply. In the last digest I read about some guy's forklift driving job at least 6 times (maybe more, I lost count). Basically, the digests lately have consisted of the same 3 or 4 threads repeated over and over in their entirety, one for each reply. It makes searching through for the few messages that I want to read a thankless and time consuming task. I was tempted to leave in the quotes from the last digest so you guilty ones could see just how bad it is but would then be guilty of the very thing I'm pissing and moaning about so I refrained. Please, I beg you.. Take a few extra moments, be considerate.. TRIM YOUR POSTS! Thanks :) From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Tue Jun 12 16:21:24 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:21:24 -0400 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD Message-ID: Excellent commentary Doug! I just found one of my earlier attempts at playing bass. At the time I had an old Fostex 4 Track and I did my own version of Motorhead; an instrumental version thank God!! Bass playing, C-; Guitar playing...B. Anyone else ever do their own version? Dr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Doug Pearson [SMTP:jasret at MINDSPRING.COM] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:40 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW/MOTORHEAD On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:27:08 -0400, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] wrote: >OK. Back to Hawkwind related talk. Yes, PLEASE! >Just curious to see which version of the song "Motorhead" people like. >The HW version w/Dave singing, with Lemmy, the original >Lemmy/Larry Wallis version etc. And why? Oh man, that's a tough one! EVERY version of that song that Lemmy's on has some redeeming factor that other versions don't have ... * The original "Kings of Speed" B-side (that was also on the US Griffin 'Warrior' CD) has the original Lemmy vocals, and great swirling sax/violin lines that would seem to be out-of-place on the song that was sort of the "blueprint" for Motorhead (the band), but still sound amazingly cool, and unmistkably Hawkwind. * The Flicknife/Dave-sung version has the fantastic tweeter-popping synth noises (Korg MS-20?) that none of the other versions benefit from (and a synth solo that sounds almost like a direct transcription of the guitar solo Eddie Clarke would play on the song). Also undeniably Hawkwind- sounding. * The 'On Parole' (Wallis) version has the best beginning (the revving motorcycle engine leading into the band breaking loose), and Larry contributes the best backing/co-vocals of any of Lemmy's collaborators. * And finally, the live 'No Sleep 'Til Hammersmith' (Clarke) version shreds more than any previous version, and really shows off the song's potential as one of the great HEAVY METAL anthems. So count me as "undecided". But I think I have even more versions of "City Kids" in my music library ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Jun 12 16:18:02 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:18:02 +0200 Subject: OFF: Korg 700 Message-ID: Hi, IIRC there was some talk about about that cool synth some time ago and someone mentioned that he owns one. Could that person (I unfortunately forgot who he was - Doug perhaps?) please contact me by PM? I could need a sample or two for a project I'm currently working on. thanx in advance & (c)IAO D:+R np: Katatonia, "Disposession" -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From prjt2501 at PTD.NET Tue Jun 12 16:34:56 2001 From: prjt2501 at PTD.NET (Project2501) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:34:56 -0400 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD In-Reply-To: <000501c0f39e$458e4d30$bc102cc3@thrupoint.net> Message-ID: Umm...I guess so. I have to say that I'm not familiar with hW vinyl...I'm only 28, not a huge collector by any stretch of the imagination. It's the version on my CD copy of Warrior on the Edge Of Time...I would guess that this is one and the same? Apologies for the ignorance, everyone :-) Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] On Behalf Of ejobson > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:18 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW/MOTORHEAD > > > You mean the Kings of Speed B side? From spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM Tue Jun 12 16:41:11 2001 From: spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM (Space Wreck) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:41:11 -0700 Subject: OFF: OFF In-Reply-To: <3B267385.D0C3BD4F@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: Here here! Anyone have anything to say about the new Simon House, _Spiral Galaxy Revisited_? Serious reuse is rampant in the Hawkwind camp - of the 8 tracks, only 3 are new...but it's still good! Gotta listen a coupla more times. MWood NP: Farflung - _The Myth of Solid Ground_ --- Mike Habiby wrote: > Yea I am. > > For blah blah I subscribe to the Yahoo Hawkwind group.. and delete most > of the messages.. > > Here I expect music news and talk. Not a glorified chatroom. > > Zeitgeist wrote: > > > > Any one else pissed off with the OFF posts which are just too off. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Jun 12 16:36:11 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:36:11 +0200 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD In-Reply-To: <4327A1883D21D311AC9400508B0A1B9E06AFB0E7@ntguslaexs1.globa l.jnj.com> Message-ID: Hi, >Excellent commentary Doug! AOL >I just found one of my earlier attempts at playing bass. At the >time I had an old Fostex 4 Track and I did my own version of >Motorhead; an instrumental version thank God!! Bass playing, >C-; Guitar playing...B. ;-) >Anyone else ever do their own version? Yep. Most of my bass-beginner's-days playing is very funny to listen to nowadays. It was recorded directly onto MD and every now and then I play the disc just to laugh about how bad I was (some people say I'm still bad, but hey...). It's also a good way to realize the progress you've really made IMO, because sometimes you practice and practice but can't notice the slightest improvement in skill. (I hope you know I mean...) I'm currently recording some kind of a demo-CDR and I think I will also put one or two HW-covers on it (High Rise definitely), hopefully those'll sound better than my earlier attempts...;-) (c)IAO D+R From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Jun 12 17:21:33 2001 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (blueskin69) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:21:33 +0100 Subject: Donington Message-ID: Why the ? about the campsite "Mich at el B" wrote: > campsite? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: blueskin69 > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:59 AM > Subject: Re: Donington > > > It's not this weekend it's a week on Thursday coming that the campsite > opens > > and Hawkwind are playing on the Friday night thats the 22nd. > > > > Cheers > > Gordon. > > > > M Holmes wrote: > > > > > Captain Bl at ck writes: > > > > > > > In a vain attempt to bring the list back to some semblance of reality, > = > > > > is anyone on here going to Donington next week? > > > > > > Is it this weekend? Which night are the Hawks playing, and are they > > > definitely playing? > > > > > > FoFP > > From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jun 12 17:56:17 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:56:17 -0400 Subject: SIGNOFF BOC-L Message-ID: Hey Now! Time I Left.... This list today....... I am outta here!! Yes, I know that I need to send a note elsewhere to signoff. I am doing that immediately after I send this note. To all the cool folks: Thanx for the Hawks! And BOC too ") Keith, I would love to keep up on Spacerock news, if you care to send it my way. Bernhard, I have enjoyed all of your posts!! You are a great wealth of Hawk knowledge. Please keep posting to the neo-quark list ") I recently had a great phone conversation w/ Tommy Grenas that I was going to share w/ you all, but......that JC comment did it for me. After 4 years, the Pro's just don't outweigh the cons anymore. In Search of Space Darrin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Tue Jun 12 18:33:12 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moon Glum) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:33:12 -0400 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:21:24 -0400, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] wrote: >Excellent commentary Doug! > >I just found one of my earlier attempts at playing bass. At the >time I had an old Fostex 4 Track and I did my own version of >Motorhead; an instrumental version thank God!! Bass playing, >C-; Guitar playing...B. > >Anyone else ever do their own version? > >Dr. Dan Not of Motorhead, no, but I too once had a Fostex 4-track and attempted cover versions of Death Trap, Brainstorm, Robot and 1 other which i no longer recall. this was in the privacy of my own bedroom and i chose those particular songs because i thought HW had never done them as well as they could be done. and then i found out that a 4-track, a guitar, a few cheap effects and a miniature casio keyboard weren't going to enable me to surpass DB's efforts in a 24-track studio. my conscience is however clear as i am 99.99% certain that the master tape has been destroyed. Moonglum From nick at NETPHD.NET Tue Jun 12 18:37:55 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:37:55 -0400 Subject: BOC: Rolling Stone on "Curse" Message-ID: Here's what Rolling Stone.com had to say about Curse of the Hidden Mirror. I meant to send this in about a week ago. . . Blue Oyster Cult Curse of the Hidden Mirror (CMC International-Sanctuary) At this point, remakes, repackages and live albums outpace new material in the land of Blue Oyster Cult. But as they enter their fourth decade of service, BOC are still trying to tap the hot rail to relevancy. Curse of the Hidden Mirror follows up 1998's Heaven Forbid with plenty of utilitarian riffage from the hard rock troika of Eric Bloom, Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser and Allen Lanier. BOC's trademarks - over-amped boogie riffs, squealing high-note guitar solos and vibrato- torqued lead vocals wrapped around lyrics of gothic origin -- are all lodged firmly in place. As is the band's schizophrenia. Resigned to walking the tightrope between hard rock and full-on heavy metal, the band one minute traps itself in the dungeon of darkness ("One Step Ahead of the Devil") only to work its way back to the power-chord surface for the radio-friendly "Here Comes That Feeling." Surely, at this late date, any similarities to Spinal Tap (the organ solo in "Good to Be Hungry," for starters) are purely coincidental . . . and ultimately unavoidable. (ROB O'CONNOR) From nick at NETPHD.NET Tue Jun 12 18:51:27 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:51:27 -0400 Subject: BOC: Sorry, Theo :( Message-ID: Before I say this, I just want it to be known that I respect Theo and enjoy his posts more than probably anyone else's on this list. That said. . . I think you were way off the mark, Theo, in labeling CotHM "Flat Out 2". Don't misunderstand me, there's no anger or vitriol of any kind in this post. I'm just offering a dissenting view. I say Curse is totally a BOC disc, and I think it's a great one. Sure, in some ways it's adjusted to the march of time, but I love it. It's got all the hallmarks of a great BOC album. . . most importantly, it throws you for a total loop on some songs. I can only think back on songs like "Monsters", "Sinful Love" and "Debbie Denise", and how bizarre I thought they were when I first heard them. I suppose that if I were a BOC fan from 1972-1975, "Reaper" would also fit into this category. This was a band that took amazing musical risks throughout its career, and the tone of Curse is a return to that carefree style. Even the "Buckpop" tunes are closer to BOC than to solo Dharma if you ask me. . . with the possible exception of Here Comes That Feeling. I hope we can all agree on at least one thing: This album is damn good. Although I'm worried that maybe part of the reason I like it so much is because my expectations were lowered by Heaven Forbid. Shamefully, I was just not expecting much in the way of vitality from these guys anymore. On HF, with the exception of SYIB and HM, I had to kind of search through all the songs to find what I liked about them. But on the new album, every single song sought ME out. --Nick From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue Jun 12 19:04:38 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:04:38 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Jun 2001 - Special issue (#2001-241) Message-ID: I'm with u on this one Andy - I got a biz to run too !! We got the IRC channel and Yahoo chat for the off-topic yak BTW I'll be uploading a special HW version of mIRC to Mission Control shortly. It configures itself and puts you right on the channel. Just download and run. That might help out :} Rx From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jun 12 19:22:33 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:22:33 +0800 Subject: OFF: HMTL text Message-ID: Are my messages going thru in HMTL text? I was just told this by another list I'm on. Strange too as I have been a member of that list for a long time. Cheers Bill From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jun 12 20:39:12 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:39:12 -0600 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Jun 2001 - Special issue (#2001-241) In-Reply-To: <200106122304.TAA09725@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: thanks Rik.. to all...got the message where I am concerned (as far as "death" chat that I took part in)...(on Bocl list..THIS LIST) Yahoo seems to be teetering on the edge of something.....maybe a birth, I dunno... Stuart...I tried to email you privately about any knowledge you may or may not be willing to share regarding "Odd" Hawkwind pressings of CD's/LP's??? any Scottish items???? anyway, it wouldn't go through, maybe you have me killfiled?? I would like to see a "Nonsense" HW list for people like myself that are post-happy, but need time to hen-peck, and think.... peace peace peace I hope hope hope Mike C (relative Bocl "newbie", I guess) From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Jun 12 20:54:57 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:54:57 EDT Subject: off: RE: What's happening?? Message-ID: In a message dated 6/12/01 6:34:49 AM US Eastern Standard Time, samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM writes: > Hey, me too!! When I get bored, I drive fast, laugh maniacally, and see how many people I can scare the ROYAL PISS out of! Joe 'Trying to be the first fork-lift to break the sound barrier' From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jun 12 20:58:52 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 01:58:52 +0100 Subject: HW: SILICON GULCH In-Reply-To: <09d401c0f069$0b2859c0$6f24883e@jds> Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Jill Strobridge wrote: > I'm sure I remember that a while ago somone decided to get a theatre > group together and bring the play to a stage in London. But maybe > it didn't work out. Something it would be fun to go and see > though. Is anyone on the list into drama or know of an acting > group who would be willing to do this? There's always the > Edinburgh Festival Fringe if they wanted a venue and a potential > audience! The Fringe only gets you an audience if you have a small fortune to spend on publicity. Otherwise you can be playing to an empty house because there's so much competition. Or so I'm told by persistent inFringers. But, nonetheless, I know people who might want to do this. Maybe. Are the scripts available anywhere? Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Jun 12 21:04:27 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:04:27 EDT Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD Message-ID: In a message dated 6/12/01 2:20:11 PM US Eastern Standard Time, ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET writes: > You mean the Kings of Speed B side? > > Prolly speaking of the Dojo/Griffin issue of the CD, what has B side on as special track. Actually, I like all three. Joe From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jun 12 21:18:40 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 02:18:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree at Shepherd's Bush Empire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:31:07 +0100 > From: Nick Medford > Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: Porcupine Tree at Shepherd's Bush Empire > > In message rg.uk>, Jon Jarrett writes > > > But enough of that. I do rather like _Lightbulb Sun_, > >more so than _Stupid Dream_. > > I beg to differ. I hadn't heard LS prior to the gig and bought it afterwards as > I thought the songs from it sounded pretty good live. But I think it's by far > the weakest PT album: the title track is great... perhaps the most successful > fusion of psych and pop they've achieved, and the second half of Russia On > Ice is very fine too, but everything else is average to downright crap IMO: > "The Rest Will Flow" and "Where Would We Be" are two of the most > embarrassingly sterile overblown neo-prog efforts I've heard in a long while. > And as for "Last Chance..", fusing a lightweight love song with samples from > the Heaven's Gate cult leader is just crass. It just doesn't work and he ends > up looking like a schoolboy trying to shock. But doesn't it so outstrip the *apalling* self-pity of `Stop Swimming'? That line about the map is terrible. It's one of the only PT songs I consider to be actually bad. `The Rest Will Flow', `Where We Would Be' and `Feel So Low' are none of them good, but not worse than filler to me. I actually like `Last Chance', at least, once it gets out of the song bit and into the jam. I think that one just went on in the studio and they didn't like to cut it so Steven arranged samples over it instead. I would nominate as items of particular worth, however, `Russia On Ice' (obviously - though predictably it's better live with blue lights), `How is Your Life Today?' (if they'd made this the only love-song on the album it would look so much better - as it is I find it refreshingly different, in musical terms only), and `Hatesong', all three bits of it, the Edwin funky bass-line bit with the words, the Muslimgauze knocking-on- pipes noises bit and especially the crunchy guitar NIN-a-like bit. I thoroughly enjoy this song. And `4 Chords' is all right too, as is `Shesmovedon', a marked upturn in single quality I thought. > Whereas "Stupid Dream" has grown on me... there are some excellent > tracks: Even Less, Slave Called Shiver, Baby Dream and Tinto Brass are all > among their best. The weakest track is "Pure Narcotic" and even that is > considerably better than some of the Lightbulb Sun stuff.... IMHO of course. Hmm, we must be different people here. `Even Less' is great. `Tinto Brass' I find OK. `Slave' and `Baby Dream' do nothing for me. I do massively like `A Smart Kid' (I don't mind Steven being sentimental when he does it like this, and I would have loved to write the line, "There was a war but I must have won."), but after that bar the medium quality `Piano Lessons' there's nothing I'd save; and I'd junk `Baby Dream' and `Slave' also. > The other thing is that the mournful lyrics and vocals, which were starting > to wear a bit thin on Stupid Dream, blossom into total self-parody on LS. > To call it sixth-form angst is almost too kind. Again I don't agree. I think the worst of this is on _Stupid Dream_. I also think that that disc was far too long in the coming; everything on it sounds overdone and sterile to me. I find _Lightbulb Sun_ fresh by comparison, and more varied. Less time to grow old in the studio. I also find _Stupid Dream_ uneasily caught in the move from prog to pop, I think it lumbers whereas _Lightbulb Sun_ goes about being a pop album in PT style quite merrily. Basically, I really don't very much like _Stupid Dream_. > However the next studio PT album will allegedly be darker, stranger and > have more guitars, so it should be a good 'un. Hard to see how it could be bad with that description, at least we agree on this :-) Yours, Jon ObCassette: Blue Oyster Cult - _Some Enchanted Evening_ (it's the best there is) -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jun 12 21:23:20 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:23:20 -0400 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:21:24 -0400, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] wrote: >Excellent commentary Doug! Thanks, Dan! >I just found one of my earlier attempts at playing bass. At the >time I had an old Fostex 4 Track and I did my own version of >Motorhead; an instrumental version thank God!! Bass playing, >C-; Guitar playing...B. Heh heh ... for me, the two grades would have to be reversed. >Anyone else ever do their own version? I've never attempted to record a version of "Motorhead", but Lemmy undeniably wrote some the greatest bass riffs ever! "The Watcher" is another big fave of mine, and despite the fact that they're really cool & interesting sounding, neither one is that difficult to play (unless you're playing "Motorhead" at a 'No Sleep Til Hammersmith' tempo). I still haven't decided which one will be used to "innagurate" my 4004LK when it arrives later this year ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From prjt2501 at PTD.NET Tue Jun 12 21:48:19 2001 From: prjt2501 at PTD.NET (Project2501) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:48:19 -0400 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD In-Reply-To: <110.e8e81c.2858161b@aol.com> Message-ID: Yep...the Griffin issue of the CD. Like I said, I'm more of a new-ish HW fan...started listening to them in 95-ish fairly much. Before that, some Space Ritual in college when I was working at the college radio station. Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Subject: Re: HW/MOTORHEAD > > In a message dated 6/12/01 2:20:11 PM US Eastern Standard > Time, ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET writes: > > > You mean the Kings of Speed B side? > > Prolly speaking of the Dojo/Griffin issue of the CD, what has > B side on as special track. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jun 12 22:14:06 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 03:14:06 +0100 Subject: HW: irc channel In-Reply-To: <200104271512.QAA29565@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, M Holmes wrote: > Could someone post an idiot's step by step, guide on how to do this for > those of us who wouldn't know a chatroom from the inside of the Tardis? Maybe. Try this. (1) Locate and install an IRC client. I'm using the one Rik recommended, mIRC, which I think is free to download at but I may remember wrong. It runs under Windows and is 16-bit or Win32s-capable, I don't know which. If it goes on my machine no-one else should have a problem with it. (2) configure the various user options, especially the nickname; mIRC seems to have fairly sensible defaults but some things it obviously needs to know. (3) dial up, if you do, and connect to an IRC server; mIRC gives you a lists, several of which selected a random server on a particular network. I use "Random EU DALnet server" and that works for me. (3) when it connects to the server, add the channel #hawkwind.org.uk to the list you get given, and click join once it's listed. (4) type as you would on a talker: conventions include using ; as a prefix to emoting, so that typing "this is pants compared to Usenet" (quotes mine) gets you, e.g. "fofp `this is pants compared to Usenet" in the channel window, but ";thinks this is pants compared to Usenet" gets you "fofp thinks this is pants compared to Usenet". (5) this is what makes AOL and WebTV great remember; how hard can it be? > Us old-timers use usenet doncha know. Not anywhere I do you don't... Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 12 23:30:03 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:00:03 +0930 Subject: Donington Message-ID: Was curious for data - You are refereing to a campsite to stay for the show - not the Hawk-Camp summer special? ----- Original Message ----- From: blueskin69 To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:51 AM Subject: Re: Donington > Why the ? about the campsite > > "Mich at el B" wrote: > > > campsite? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: blueskin69 > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:59 AM > > Subject: Re: Donington > > > > > It's not this weekend it's a week on Thursday coming that the campsite > > opens > > > and Hawkwind are playing on the Friday night thats the 22nd. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Gordon. > > > > > > M Holmes wrote: > > > > > > > Captain Bl at ck writes: > > > > > > > > > In a vain attempt to bring the list back to some semblance of reality, > > = > > > > > is anyone on here going to Donington next week? > > > > > > > > Is it this weekend? Which night are the Hawks playing, and are they > > > > definitely playing? > > > > > > > > FoFP > > > > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jun 12 22:49:45 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:49:45 -0400 Subject: OFF: New Aural Innovations issue Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com The June issue of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock Exploration is now online. Aural Innovations covers spacerock, psychedelia, electronic music, plus more eclectic forms of jazz and progressive rock. New radio shows are on the way. We're pleased to announce that The Kozmik Ken Experience has joined Aural Innovations and Ken's first show with us with debut later this week. Announcement: I continue to mention this but everyone should note that Strange Trips will be bringing Harvey Bainbridge and Mr Quimby's Beard to the USA in late October or early November. In place of the full weekend outdoor Strange Daze festival, this year a smaller event will take place in Cleveland. Keep your eyes on www.strange-trips.com for the latest information. There will also be a tour in the weeks around the Cleveland event so anyone who thinks they can host a show should contact Jim Lascko at jmfinity at strange-trips.com. The new issue includes: Sloterdijk (review/interview) Blue Lily Commission/Stephen Palmer (review/interview) Bret Hart/InstrumenTales (reviews/interview) What Exactly Comes After Post-Rock? Part One of an Audio Journey: The Hypnotists (article and audio) Nik Fest (Space Rock COMIX) Live show reviews Recent Releases From Strange Recordings Recent Releases From innerSPACE Records TRIPLABS Artists at Mp3.com Releases From Audiofile RoundTapes Recent Releases From Eternity's Jest Records Recent Releases From Szum Records Releases From Electroshock Records Releases From Fleece Records Recent Releases From Cenotaph Audio Releases From Accretions Recent Releases From Dark Symphonies Plus loads of general reviews!!! You can go directly to the new issue at: http://aural-innovations.com/issues/issue16/issue16.html The Aural Innovations mail order catalog has been growing in leaps and bounds!!! Thanks to all who have taken the plunge. Check it out for CD's by some of the best bands that you have, and maybe haven't, heard of. New in stock is Flourescent Tunnelvision, a 2-CD compilation of some of space rock and psychedelia's more adventurous bands. This is the long awaited follow up to 1999's Turn Century Turn: Space Rock & Psychedelia From Around The Globe. Other new items include the second CD from Daevid Allen's University Of Errors, the CD release of Mushroom's Compared To What with bonus tracks not on the LP, Quarkspace's new Spacefolds 7, plus much much more. All the above can be found by setting your vessel's controls for http://Aural-Innovations.com From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Wed Jun 13 00:43:19 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:43:19 -0400 Subject: OFF: gig announcement: acoustic SLOTERDIJK: 6/28 Riverside, New Jersey Message-ID: acoustic SLOTERDIJK will perform at: 'Marymaker's' 414 Pavillion Ave Riverside New Jersey (856 764-1155 We will be playing an extended set when the house trio and guests take a break. Any musicians, fell free to bring instruments for a full scale jam session. Be eclectic and have fun: sign up time: 7PM Sloterdijk will go on between 8:30? We will be playing a least one new tune, as well as several which have not played for some time..Come join the fun..It is ladies niight!!!! Peace, Mike (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jun 13 04:26:56 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:26:56 +0100 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD Message-ID: The acapella version that we're about to unleash on people at our first gig Wednesday week :-) --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:27 PM Subject: Re: HW/MOTORHEAD > OK. Back to Hawkwind related talk. Just curious to see which version of > the song > "Motorhead" people like. The HW version w/Dave singing, with Lemmy, the > original > Lemmy/Larry Wallis version etc. And why? > > Dr. Dan From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Wed Jun 13 05:46:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:46:00 +0100 Subject: HW: SpaceBrock Message-ID: Err... sorry if this was posted ages ago and I missed it, but what's the track listing (15 tracks) of the mis-pressed SpaceBrock, as sent out by VoicePrint? I'm having a hard time matching it all up! Cheers ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Wed Jun 13 05:56:58 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 02:56:58 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: There seem to be Killjoys amongst our happy family - They need to take their seditives and Exlax, get mellow and regular, then learn to appreciate and enjoy the special brand of humor of all the colorful characters of this website. Steve the Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:04 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > actually I must admit I don't mind the 'irrelevant' postings one bit - > entertaining and fun - you can't have facts all the time - and what else is > the delete button there for, anyway?? > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mich at el B" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > > > > imagine if everyone on all his lists replied to him to say > > > > Ok man - no problem - I'll do it just for you > > > > tee hee > > > > read below if necessary>>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bart Brugmans > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:58 AM > > Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > oke everybody, for the sake of this list (and my health ;-), could we > > > all please USE OFF: in the subject-line when we are not posting > > > anything relevant? > > > > > > my mailfilters won't work, and that annoys me just a little bit too > > > much. I am on over 25 maillists, so filtering is essential. > > > > > > thanx a lot, > > > Bart > > > > > > On 11 Jun 2001, at 17:05, Layla Thompson wrote: > > > > > > Date sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:45 +0100 > > > Send reply to: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > > > > From: Layla Thompson > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > > > > five lists??!?! All to the one email address?? > > > > > > > > > > > > That would drive me nuts! > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:41pm >>> > > > > I'm on 5 different lists, plus friends are usually getting on their > > > > pc's about now. CHEERS STEPHE > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM > > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > bombarded with mail from where??!?! > > > > > > > > What am I missing!?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> > > > > EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many > > > > lists. EEEEEKK > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM > > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm on that list too!!!! > > > > > > > > Nothing much happening there either!! > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> > > > > At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >I'm here STEPHE > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > > > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > > > > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > > > > > > > Layla. > > > > > > > > hi layla > > > > > > > > well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. > > > > they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out > > > > hawkwind...........!!! > > > > but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. > > > > go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. > > > > your inbox will be filled with......... > > > > > > > > andre > > > > > > > > > > > > | Nothing to do this summer? > > > | http://www.tao.ca/~ridefree/summithop/ > > > | > > > | ENGAGE! Tactical Media > > > | Bemuurde Weerd WZ3 NL-3513 BH Utrecht > > > | tel: +31 (0)30 2387516 gsm: +31 (0)6 24798780 > > > | fax: +31 (0)30 2387517 http://www.engage.nu From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Wed Jun 13 06:00:40 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 03:00:40 -0700 Subject: What's happening?? Message-ID: Michae, You are truly the Girlie Mon! Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: Mich at el B To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM Subject: Re: What's happening?? > hey hey hey - here I am to liven up your day! > > hey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Layla Thompson > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:36 AM > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > Hey hey hey!!!!! What??!?!! > > > > > > > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/11/01 04:33pm >>> > > Hey hey hey!!!!! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Layla Thompson > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:28 AM > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > I'm on that list too!!!! > > > > > > Nothing much happening there either!! > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > > >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> > > > At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: > > > >I'm here STEPHE > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > > > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > > > > > Layla. > > > > > > hi layla > > > > > > well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. > > > they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out > > hawkwind...........!!! > > > but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. > > > go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. > > > your inbox will be filled with......... > > > > > > andre > > > > > From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Jun 13 06:53:32 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:53:32 +0100 Subject: OFF: Korg 700 In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010612220109.02351ec0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: In article <5.0.2.1.0.20010612220109.02351ec0 at kommsrv.rz.unibw- muenchen.de>, Denis Regenbrecht writes >Hi, > >IIRC there was some talk about about that cool synth some time ago and >someone mentioned that he owns one. >Could that person (I unfortunately forgot who he was - Doug perhaps?) >please contact me by PM? I could need a sample or two for a project I'm >currently working on. go to http://www.vintagesynth.com/ click the Korg link and select the Minikorg 700s - that page has some (Fairly limited) realaudio samples. If you need any more I can sample my 700s for you. -- David Blair From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 13 07:39:32 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:09:32 +0930 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: I agree - I get 50 -90 emails a day some get the delete key asap most i enjoy sometimes I forget the off thing mostly I remember there is a filter in our email programs that can remove unwanted emails such as OFF you just need to set it up suss the menus I understand the frustrations expressed but there are ways around it Peace herbal remedies Mike B ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Moody To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > There seem to be Killjoys amongst our happy family - They need to take their > seditives and Exlax, get mellow and regular, then learn to appreciate and > enjoy the special brand of humor of all the colorful characters of this > website. > Steve the Moonman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI > To: > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:04 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > > > > actually I must admit I don't mind the 'irrelevant' postings one bit - > > entertaining and fun - you can't have facts all the time - and what else > is > > the delete button there for, anyway?? > > Andy Garibaldi > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mich at el B" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:34 PM > > Subject: Re: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > imagine if everyone on all his lists replied to him to say > > > > > > Ok man - no problem - I'll do it just for you > > > > > > tee hee > > > > > > read below if necessary>>> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bart Brugmans > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:58 AM > > > Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > oke everybody, for the sake of this list (and my health ;-), could we > > > > all please USE OFF: in the subject-line when we are not posting > > > > anything relevant? > > > > > > > > my mailfilters won't work, and that annoys me just a little bit too > > > > much. I am on over 25 maillists, so filtering is essential. > > > > > > > > thanx a lot, > > > > Bart > > > > > > > > On 11 Jun 2001, at 17:05, Layla Thompson wrote: > > > > > > > > Date sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:45 +0100 > > > > Send reply to: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > > > > > > From: Layla Thompson > > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > > > > > > five lists??!?! All to the one email address?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That would drive me nuts! > > > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:41pm >>> > > > > > I'm on 5 different lists, plus friends are usually getting on their > > > > > pc's about now. CHEERS STEPHE > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM > > > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bombarded with mail from where??!?! > > > > > > > > > > What am I missing!?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> > > > > > EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many > > > > > lists. EEEEEKK > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM > > > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm on that list too!!!! > > > > > > > > > > Nothing much happening there either!! > > > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> > > > > > At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > >I'm here STEPHE > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > > > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > > > > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > > > > > > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Layla. > > > > > > > > > > hi layla > > > > > > > > > > well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. > > > > > they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out > > > > > hawkwind...........!!! > > > > > but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. > > > > > go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. > > > > > your inbox will be filled with......... > > > > > > > > > > andre > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | Nothing to do this summer? > > > > | http://www.tao.ca/~ridefree/summithop/ > > > > | > > > > | ENGAGE! Tactical Media > > > > | Bemuurde Weerd WZ3 NL-3513 BH Utrecht > > > > | tel: +31 (0)30 2387516 gsm: +31 (0)6 24798780 > > > > | fax: +31 (0)30 2387517 http://www.engage.nu From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Jun 13 07:49:51 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 06:49:51 -0500 Subject: Lemmy in Nina Hagen = Punk + Glory (1999) Message-ID: This sounds interesting! Has anyone seen it? http://us.imdb.com/Title?0220666 From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jun 13 08:03:22 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:03:22 EDT Subject: BOC: CotHM In-Reply-To: <200106122251.SAA19143@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: On 12 Jun 2001, at 18:51, Nick English wrote: > Before I say this, I just want it to be known that I > respect Theo and enjoy his posts more than probably > anyone else's on this list. That said. . . > Uh, oh... > I think you were way off the mark, Theo, in labeling > CotHM "Flat Out 2". Don't misunderstand me, there's no > anger or vitriol of any kind in this post. I'm just > offering a dissenting view. > I made the mistake of phrasing it like I thought it was a bad thing. I LOVED Flat Out, and considered it a reaction to the direction imposed upon the group by Pearlman. I don't think we can underestimate the sort of yin/yang dialectic that operated in BOC's early days: the struggle between BD's pop sensibilities on one side, and SP's notion that BOC become some sort of uber metal band. Add to that RM's demented [and great] lyrics, and AB's unique and eclectic approach to songwriting, and, I think, the resulting mixture swirls with influences, and, to some extent, underlines the paranoia of the early 70s... > I say Curse is totally a BOC disc, and I think it's a > great one. I think it's a great album too, but I do find some things to pick on. Overall, it's a very consistent album, which HF was not. OTOH, HF had 2 classic BOC tunes, SYiB and HM. CotHM has, I think, only one: Stone of Love. OTOH, the rest of HF was, sad to say, pretty weak, and, to my ears, filler material that had been hanging around, that the group didn't want to waste. CotHM has no weak tracks at all [apart from some lyrics that I can't fathom--I hope it's my ignorance that keeps me from 'getting' OotD and IJWtbB] but musically and production-wise, CotHM is very strong indeed... Sure, in some ways it's adjusted to the > march of time, but I love it. It's got all the > hallmarks of a great BOC album. . . most importantly, > it throws you for a total loop on some songs. > > I can only think back on songs like "Monsters", "Sinful > Love" and "Debbie Denise", and how bizarre I thought > they were when I first heard them. I suppose that if I > were a BOC fan from 1972-1975, "Reaper" would also fit > into this category. Absolutely! My friends and I were all total BOC freaks back then, and we were dumbstruck when AoF came out. But after awhile, we were raving about it. Now, I still don't listen to Debbie Denise, Lonely Teardrops and a few others, wheras the first 3 albums get played all the way through... This was a band that took amazing > musical risks throughout its career, and the tone of > Curse is a return to that carefree style. > > Even the "Buckpop" tunes are closer to BOC than to solo > Dharma if you ask me. . . with the possible exception > of Here Comes That Feeling. My objection to a lot of CotHM involves the lack of guitar solos, which is, perhaps a nod to the current trend in pop music that seems to eschew solos... > I hope we can all agree on at least one thing: This > album is damn good. Although I'm worried that maybe > part of the reason I like it so much is because my > expectations were lowered by Heaven Forbid. I agree. I think we can forgive them for HF. It was a huge gap between albums, and some of the songs were weak. Also, it was BD's first full effort at production. Obviously, Buck has figured it out in a hurry! > Shamefully, I was just not expecting much in the way of > vitality from these guys anymore. On HF, with the > exception of SYIB and HM, I had to kind of search > through all the songs to find what I liked about them. Me too. After that long wait, I was loathe to criticize HF too much, but I admit I don't listen to it much, apart from the 2 songs you mentioned, which are boffo... > But on the new album, every single song sought ME out. > Well put. I have problems with some of the lyrics, but the production and musicianship bails those songs out. It has a really professional sound to it, which, sadly, HF did not... theo From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Wed Jun 13 08:23:34 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:23:34 -0400 Subject: OFF: HMTL text Message-ID: From: "Bill & Cynthia" > Are my messages going thru in HMTL text? I was just told this by another > list I'm on. Strange too as I have been a member of that list for a long > time. This one didn't. Are you using Outlook? I've noticed if I reply to HTML/Rich Text, it tends to use the same format. Jerry From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Wed Jun 13 08:29:09 2001 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:29:09 +0100 Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal? In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F6622@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: > >I like that one about Jeff Beck and Elton John in wheelchairs in the > >nursing home. Has that ever been released officially? > >- Mike Godwin On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Scruton, Jason wrote: > If its the same one about selling eric's soulto a man in the shark skin > suit, then it could be the one going to be released on the Tyranny remaster. > But i cant remember exactly. Yes, I think that's the one. Look out for it! - Mike "you've got to sign it - in blood!" Godwin From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jun 13 08:37:08 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:37:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: University Central Lancashire. Academic. UK = UCLAN.AC.UK, Surely. Rob >From: Layla Thompson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:38:52 +0100 > >Why do you guess the University of Central Lancashire??! > >Layla > > > >>> rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM 06/12/01 01:31pm >>> >So, Layla, i'm lost abit here. It's Stephe whose driving fork lifts and >you're filling your days up at the university of central lancashire.Just >guessing. > >Rob, deep in the Wastelands of Sleep. > > > >From: Layla Thompson > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:44:54 +0100 > > > >ooooooooooooo I get ya!! > > > >Layla > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/12/01 10:29am >>> > >NO I have an office too!!! Not sure why but I won't complain. I load >trucks > >when I first come in and then I do my paperwork. I should have said I'm a > >warehouse worker, but mostly I work on a forklift. Does that make more > >sense? STEPHE > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:11 PM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > >How come you're on the net in a forklift truck!??!?!?!?! > > > >Am I missing something here?? > > > >Layla > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 05:13pm >>> > >MY JOB doesn't suck or i would have quit years ago. HA!HA!HA! I like what >I > >do. I am a forklift driver. it can get boring though. STEPHE > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:05 AM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > >yeah, i know the feeling!! > > > >work sucks. > > > >It's like being in a cold hell, with pay! > > > >Layla > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:38pm >>> > >I got 45 mins. Work doesn't bother me. I have no friends here, so I am >left > >alone. STEPHE > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:30 AM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > >I'm off home in 30 mins!!! > > > >Finish 2 whole hours early today!!!! YAY!!!! Are you jelous??! > > > > > >Layla > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 03:53pm >>> > >HELLO, Whats going on? I'm at work for another hour and a half. CHEERS > >STEPHE > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:56 AM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > >Hello Stephe!!! > > > > > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 01:55pm >>> > >I'm here STEPHE > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > Layla. > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Jun 13 08:35:54 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:35:54 -0500 Subject: Lemmy in Nina Hagen = Punk + Glory (1999) Message-ID: IT was in the MOTORHEADBANGERS fanzine. It didn't say if it was worth getting or not. Personally I don't care for nina's music anymore. Just to get it for LEMMY would be my only reason for getting it. LEMMY is on so much stuff its amazing. If you are looking for this it may be easier to find from some German record stores. Never saw a copy myself. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Karen Kusic [mailto:kkusic at EXECPC.COM] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:50 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Lemmy in Nina Hagen = Punk + Glory (1999) This sounds interesting! Has anyone seen it? http://us.imdb.com/Title?0220666 From nick at NETPHD.NET Wed Jun 13 09:06:53 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:06:53 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM In-Reply-To: <3B271E48.16684.2F8040@localhost> Message-ID: > ignorance that keeps me from 'getting' OotD and IJWtbB] I don't know. . . I think OOTD is very strong. I mean, on one hand, it's just the average "your parents hate me" thing, but at the same time, there's such determination in that song, both in the parents' desperation to keep Eric away and his determination to be with the girl. You kind of have to wonder what makes this guy so bad. I guess with a little imagination you can turn it into something a little less banal. As for IJLTBB, I think it's fun. Kind of reminiscent of "You're Not the One I Was Looking For", which is a guilty pleasure of mine. I enjoy when they get a little mischievous. Speaking of which, I notice that the backing vocals in Stone of Love sound disctinctly like the Bouchard brothers are back in the mix. I have a hard time believing that wasn't intentional. --Nick From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Wed Jun 13 09:08:07 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:08:07 -0400 Subject: OFF: Quarkspace Message-ID: Vacation's almost over :( I went to the 1st Intergalactic Spacerock Concert and Light Show Saturday. Anyone else on the list go? I had my nethawks shirt on. It looked like there was maybe 50 people there. I guess Jim couldn't get any lasers for the light show. The good points: the music was excellent. I managed to grab the 3 new strange trips CD's (worth going just to get them), 3 CDs from Theater of the Mind, and 6 of Quarkspace. I went outside between bands and met Paul Williams. Embarassed myself by asking him who he played for. Shared a little smoke until someone from the club said it wasn't cool. Paul said it was the first time they've played that part of PA. I hope the crowd size doesn't discourage them from coming there (or NE PA) in the future. I thought I heard someone mention Harvey being in the area this October (maybe Chef Geoff). Can't wait. Jerry obCD Quarkspace-The Hidden Moon From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jun 13 09:19:25 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:19:25 EDT Subject: BOC: CotHM In-Reply-To: <200106131306.JAA05187@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: On 13 Jun 2001, at 9:06, Nick English wrote: > > ignorance that keeps me from 'getting' OotD and > IJWtbB] > > I don't know. . . I think OOTD is very strong. I mean, > on one hand, it's just the average "your parents hate > me" thing, but at the same time, there's such > determination in that song, both in the parents' > desperation to keep Eric away and his determination to > be with the girl. You kind of have to wonder what > makes this guy so bad. I guess with a little > imagination you can turn it into something a little > less banal. > Here's my problem with OotD: I know there's a difference between a song's narrative voice and the person actually singing, but come on, EB's over 50 years old. Any person he's dating...well, their parents would probably be dead anyway, or so old they probably wouldn't care much. And anyone he would be seeing would have to be well past 30, and probably wouldn't care too awful much what their parents thought about anything! theo From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Jun 13 10:00:06 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:00:06 +0800 Subject: OFF: HMTL text Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Guizar" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: Re: OFF: HMTL text > From: "Bill & Cynthia" > > > Are my messages going thru in HMTL text? I was just told this by another > > list I'm on. Strange too as I have been a member of that list for a long > > time. > > This one didn't. Are you using Outlook? I've noticed if I reply to > HTML/Rich Text, it tends to use the same format. > > Jerry Hi Jerry. Yes I am using Outlook. Thanks to Jill S. I've just learnt about Rich Text and Plain Text in the Format thingy; and my mistake was not through the settings I did on the computer, but when replying to a post. My apologies to all hawkpeople if previous replies to posts were in Rich Text. Bill From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Wed Jun 13 10:06:40 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:06:40 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM and other things Message-ID: >As for IJLTBB, I think it's fun. Kind of reminiscent >of "You're Not the One I Was Looking For", which is a >guilty pleasure of mine. I enjoy when they get a >little mischievous. > The intro to the song reminds me of Rainbow's "I need a lover that won't drive me crazy", and that drives me nuts. if it will ever be played live, its a slight chance, because under amped-up conditions even that intro might sound cool. What works for me about "You're not the one..." is it not so heavy handed in portraying the main character, while IJLTBB is laying it on way too THICK -"first names only and one night stands??" At least when the lyrics in the old days were full of supreme weirdness, they kept it obscure enough from writing the songs as if they feel its necessary to say "Hi! We're the Blue Oyster Cult and here's a song where we show how in tune we are with the dark forces!" or in IJLTBB's case, its "Hi! we're BOC and in keeping with such a cool and ominous band name, we keenly document the seedy underside of office workers who have libidinous urges!" Which is why "Harvest Moon" is cool because you never really know what the evil power is supposed to be. Funnily enough, its why I like Let Go, because it takes a fun filled pot shot at B!O!C! "We got the B! we got the O! and the C!" in keeping with the pot shot-ness of "stairway to the stars." On another BOC related note, I was listening to Wings Wetted Down the MoFi version and I gotta say, the band layered that puppy a lot instrument-wise. Very cool makes it seem even more asking to a very strong effort to do a concise, choreographed ditty, compared to the jam-ness of 7SdB, OD'd, Teen Archer fer instance. {click) Talking about stuff in live shows, almost all of this new album would probably fit well into a live set. throw in "X Ray Eyes" , "Damaged" and "sib" + other tunes from the real back catalog (not ETI) and you'd have a kickin show. However, I think they do need to keep the Buck Dharma guitar solo feature songs down a bit (what????) -- bucks boogies on top of the usual lDoM/Astron/VotPW and its a bit buck heavy, and I love what he does on the 6 string. if they ever get around to throwing in a SFg tune into the set, St.Cecilia or Donovans Monkey would be cool in place of the others for the more collective improv nature of the solo spots and because they require a different kind of solo than the usual speed metally thing he does. Or better yet, why not do Gil Blanco County? they have already memorized the end of the song, and it's one of A.Lanier's compositions too. feel the thunder of the midnight ride of Paul revere and the raiders Jason From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jun 13 10:26:47 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:26:47 EDT Subject: BOC: CotHM and other things In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F662E@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: On 13 Jun 2001, at 10:06, Scruton, Jason wrote: What works for me about "You're not > the one..." is it not so heavy handed in portraying the main > character, while IJLTBB is laying it on way too THICK -"first names > only and one night stands??" > Yes! Shirley's use of straightforward narrative drives me nuts. Who would buy one of his novels if his song lyrics are so unimaginative? Has this guy ever heard of metaphors? > At least when the lyrics in the old days were full of supreme > weirdness, they kept it obscure enough from writing the songs as if > they feel its necessary to say "Hi! We're the Blue Oyster Cult and > here's a song where we show how in tune we are with the dark forces!" Yeah, but back then, they had the likes of SP and RM contributing lyrics... > or in IJLTBB's case, its "Hi! we're BOC and in keeping with such a > cool and ominous band name, we keenly document the seedy underside of > office workers who have libidinous urges!" > Cut! Print! Bolts, you've hit it on the head... > > Which is why "Harvest Moon" is cool because you never really know what > the evil power is supposed to be. Well, I speculate that it's WWII which destroyed America's innocence, or possibly Vietnam, esp. given that America's farmlands and rustbelt town withered after the 70s... Funnily enough, its why I like Let > Go, because it takes a fun filled pot shot at B!O!C! "We got the B! we > got the O! and the C!" in keeping with the pot shot-ness of "stairway > to the stars." > Sure...Let Go was a spoof, no doubt... > {click) > Talking about stuff in live shows, almost all of this new album would > probably fit well into a live set. throw in "X Ray Eyes" , "Damaged" > and "sib" + other tunes from the real back catalog (not ETI) and > you'd have a kickin show. However, I think they do need to keep the > Buck Dharma guitar solo feature songs down a bit (what????) -- bucks > boogies Buck's Boogie is in there to give the voices a rest, I bet. I've got no problem with BB. Always great to witness a BD guitar freakout. But apart from that, I agree that the guitar hero stuff could use a rest, replaced by a few more 'out' tunes... theo From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Jun 13 10:27:31 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:27:31 EDT Subject: Harvey Tour tee hee hee Message-ID: >>>>Announcement: I continue to mention this but everyone should note that Strange Trips will be bringing Harvey Bainbridge and Mr Quimby's Beard to the USA in late October or early November. In place of the full weekend outdoor Strange Daze festival, this year a smaller event will take place in Cleveland. Keep your eyes on www.strange-trips.com for the latest information. There will also be a tour in the weeks around the Cleveland event so anyone who thinks they can host a show should contact Jim Lascko at jmfinity at strange-trips.com<<<<< Is this Harvey guy cute?..tee hee heee? Can I get a pic?...tee hee hee. Does he have hair ...tee hee? If I go, will someone buy me a drink?..tee hee hee. If I show up will someone blow me? teehee. I'll contct Lascko only if he sends me a CUTE pic...tee hee. Scuse me while I go have a real good PUKE!!! tee hee hee Best tee hee hee regards Bill tee hee hee Stewart From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 13 10:40:08 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:10:08 +0930 Subject: Harvey Tour tee hee hee Message-ID: Munchin on the ole peyote button Bill? Niccchhhhee!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Stewart To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:57 PM Subject: Harvey Tour tee hee hee > >>>>Announcement: I continue to mention this but everyone should note that > Strange Trips will be bringing Harvey Bainbridge and Mr Quimby's Beard to > the USA in late October or early November. In place of the full weekend > outdoor Strange Daze festival, this year a smaller event will take place in > Cleveland. Keep your eyes on www.strange-trips.com for the latest > information. There will also be a tour in the weeks around the Cleveland > event so anyone who thinks they can host a show should contact Jim Lascko at > jmfinity at strange-trips.com<<<<< > > Is this Harvey guy cute?..tee hee heee? Can I get a pic?...tee hee hee. Does > he have hair ...tee hee? If I go, will someone buy me a drink?..tee hee hee. > If I show up will someone blow me? teehee. I'll contct Lascko only if he > sends me a CUTE pic...tee hee. > > Scuse me while I go have a real good PUKE!!! tee hee hee > > Best tee hee hee regards > Bill tee hee hee Stewart > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Jun 13 11:39:58 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:39:58 -0600 Subject: Harvey Tour tee hee hee In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ROLLING LMAO...your the worst Bill (tee hee hee) now THAT is THE, MOST ENTERTAINING POST....EVER. PERIOD. GAME OVER. mc From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 13 10:46:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:16:01 +0930 Subject: Harvey Tour tee hee hee Message-ID: you got my vote!! tee heee ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: Re: Harvey Tour tee hee hee > ROLLING LMAO...your the worst Bill (tee hee hee) > now THAT is THE, MOST ENTERTAINING POST....EVER. PERIOD. GAME OVER. > mc > From chip at PCC.COM Wed Jun 13 12:40:51 2001 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:40:51 -0400 Subject: Megadeth/BOC - For Whom The Bell Tolls? In-Reply-To: <3A080875.9E2B9D4A@mitre.org> from "John A. Swartz" at Nov 07, 2000 08:49:44 AM Message-ID: Grabbed a cover of "For Whom the Bell Tolls" from gnapster that supposedly features BOC and Megedeth. At first listen, the lead vocals do sound a lot like Bloom and there's a fill or two that could be Buck. Or not. Anyone know what it is that I'm really hearing? -- Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com Physician's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip 1 Main Street * Work:800-722-7708 Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: 802-846-8178 From starfield at SUPANET.COM Wed Jun 13 13:54:10 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:54:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: Korg 700 Message-ID: That would be me, Denis. Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Regenbrecht To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:18 PM Subject: OFF: Korg 700 > Hi, > > IIRC there was some talk about about that cool synth some time ago and > someone mentioned that he owns one. > Could that person (I unfortunately forgot who he was - Doug perhaps?) > please contact me by PM? I could need a sample or two for a project I'm > currently working on. > > thanx in advance & (c)IAO > > D:+R > > np: Katatonia, "Disposession" > > -- > "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" > Hassan I Sabbah > > www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jun 13 12:54:55 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:54:55 -0400 Subject: OFF: Quarkspace Message-ID: Jerry said... > The good points: the music was excellent. I managed to grab the >3 new strange trips CD's (worth going just to get them), 3 CDs >from Theater of the Mind, and 6 of Quarkspace. I went outside >between bands and met Paul Williams. So who all played? Did this 'Theater of the Mind' fill in for Nucleon? (I'm guessing Babylonian Tiles didn't make it?) Who are they and what are they like? Grakkl (FAA) From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Jun 13 14:15:36 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:15:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: Quarkspace Message-ID: WHAT HAPPENED TO NUCLEON? I love them. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson [mailto:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:55 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Quarkspace Jerry said... > The good points: the music was excellent. I managed to grab the >3 new strange trips CD's (worth going just to get them), 3 CDs >from Theater of the Mind, and 6 of Quarkspace. I went outside >between bands and met Paul Williams. So who all played? Did this 'Theater of the Mind' fill in for Nucleon? (I'm guessing Babylonian Tiles didn't make it?) Who are they and what are they like? Grakkl (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jun 13 13:23:41 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:23:41 -0400 Subject: OFF: Quarkspace Message-ID: >WHAT HAPPENED TO NUCLEON? I love them. STEPHE I think they just had to cancel for some reason. Not sure why. Perhaps some sort of conflict or something. Yeah, the first time I saw Nucleon (at SD'98 I guess), I wasn't so impressed. I thought they were just loud and unrefined. But they've really improved their songwriting over these last couple of years, and I think they've grown spacier perhaps due to their experiences at events like SD and seeing all the other bands. Stoner-type space-metal with synthesized bass doesn't sound like it would work, but it really does give them a unique character. Check out their first CD, 'Hyper Emitter' or whatever it's called...very good stuff, if kind of a muddy recording. Manic Moon is the label. I think nucleon.cjb.net is the band's website. Grakkl (FAA) From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Wed Jun 13 14:45:03 2001 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (blueskin69) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:45:03 +0100 Subject: Donington Message-ID: Yes, I was refering to the campsite at the Rock and Blues. Cheers Gordon. "Mich at el B" wrote: > Was curious for data - You are refereing to a campsite to stay for the > show - not the Hawk-Camp > summer special? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: blueskin69 > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:51 AM > Subject: Re: Donington > > > Why the ? about the campsite > > > > "Mich at el B" wrote: > > > > > campsite? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: blueskin69 > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:59 AM > > > Subject: Re: Donington > > > > > > > It's not this weekend it's a week on Thursday coming that the campsite > > > opens > > > > and Hawkwind are playing on the Friday night thats the 22nd. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Gordon. > > > > > > > > M Holmes wrote: > > > > > > > > > Captain Bl at ck writes: > > > > > > > > > > > In a vain attempt to bring the list back to some semblance of > reality, > > > = > > > > > > is anyone on here going to Donington next week? > > > > > > > > > > Is it this weekend? Which night are the Hawks playing, and are they > > > > > definitely playing? > > > > > > > > > > FoFP > > > > > > From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Wed Jun 13 10:38:32 2001 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (Tony Still Comes Around on the Downbeat) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:38:32 -0500 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD Message-ID: Dr. Dan Ductor: > Anyone else ever do their own version? I'm meaning to get around to it one of these days... I've always thought "Motorhead" would be great as a bluegrass jam. -Hogard From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jun 13 14:54:12 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:54:12 -0400 Subject: Lemmy in Nina Hagen = Punk + Glory (1999) Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:35:54 -0500, Stephen Lindas wrote: >IT was in the MOTORHEADBANGERS fanzine. It didn't say if it was worth >getting or not. Personally I don't care for nina's music anymore. Just to >get it for LEMMY would be my only reason for getting it... Wow! Lemmy AND Klaus Kinski together ... two utterly unique individuals whose "real lives" actually live up to their images (unlike most celebrity poseur frauds) ... for better or worse ... Whether it's any "good" or not, it sure must be interesting ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com >-----Original Message----- >From: Karen Kusic [mailto:kkusic at EXECPC.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:50 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Lemmy in Nina Hagen = Punk + Glory (1999) > > >This sounds interesting! Has anyone seen it? > >http://us.imdb.com/Title?0220666 From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jun 13 15:27:52 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:27:52 -0400 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:38:32 -0500, Tony Still Comes Around on the Downbeat wrote: >I'm meaning to get around to it one of these days... I've >always thought "Motorhead" would be great as a bluegrass >jam. Thanks for reminding me! Yeah, the Bad Livers have done a bluegrass-ish version of, I think, "Ace of Spades"? Some Lemmy/Motorhead song, anyway ... sounded pretty cool when I heard it at KFJC several years ago ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Jun 13 15:33:52 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:33:52 -0400 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD In-Reply-To: <200106131927.PAA17194@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Doug Pearson wrote: => On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:38:32 -0500, Tony Still Comes Around on the Downbeat => wrote: => >I'm meaning to get around to it one of these days... I've => >always thought "Motorhead" would be great as a bluegrass => >jam. => => Thanks for reminding me! Yeah, the Bad Livers have done a bluegrass-ish => version of, I think, "Ace of Spades"? Some Lemmy/Motorhead song, => anyway ... sounded pretty cool when I heard it at KFJC several years ago ... When I saw Cephas and Wiggins in Menai Bridge years ago, they played an old Piedmont-style acoustic blues number, and I swear the riff was the spitting image of the one from "Lost Johnny!" It was a really surreal moment, I can tell you. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Wed Jun 13 16:06:24 2001 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:06:24 +0100 Subject: BOC: CotHM and other things In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F662E@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: Scruton, Jason wrote: >The intro to the song reminds me of Rainbow's "I need a lover that won't >drive me crazy" I don't recall any Rainbow song of that title. Are you thinking of something else, or is my memory fading with old age? -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Wed Jun 13 16:06:43 2001 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:06:43 +0100 Subject: BOC: CotHM and other things In-Reply-To: <3B273FE6.9116.B2D49C@localhost> Message-ID: Ted Jackson wrote: >Yes! Shirley's use of straightforward narrative drives me nuts. Who >would buy one of his novels if his song lyrics are so unimaginative? >Has this guy ever heard of metaphors? I'd love to see the next album have lyrics by someone like Ken Hite, who could boggle the minds of the people that thought they understood Imaginos. -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jun 13 16:03:17 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:03:17 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM and other things Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:06:24 +0100, Tim Hall wrote: >Scruton, Jason wrote: >>The intro to the song reminds me of Rainbow's "I need a lover that won't >>drive me crazy" > >I don't recall any Rainbow song of that title. Are you thinking of >something else, or is my memory fading with old age? Johnny Cougar Mellencamp? (and did Joan Jett cover that one or am I the one with faulty memory?) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From CultJacket at AOL.COM Wed Jun 13 16:04:20 2001 From: CultJacket at AOL.COM (Chris Martin) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:04:20 -0400 Subject: Buck Interview on COTHM Message-ID: I interviewed Buck at the end of May of COTHM and the future of BOC. The interview is at BOC Online http://www.j-and-a.com/cjinterview.html From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Wed Jun 13 16:25:22 2001 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:25:22 +0100 Subject: BOC: CotHM and other things In-Reply-To: <200106132003.QAA17630@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: >Johnny Cougar Mellencamp? Vaguely rings a bell, but no more than that. While I do own all the Joe Lyn Turner Rainbow albums, I haven't played them for years, which is why I can't remember 100% what all the tracks were - Unlike the Dio-era stuff (and BOC, of course) they haven't really stood the test of time. > (and did Joan Jett cover that one or am I the >one with faulty memory?) Don't ask me :) I can only name one JJ song. Still another two weeks before we can get CotHM over here :( -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Jun 13 16:16:19 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:16:19 -0400 Subject: OFF: Moderators opinion Message-ID: A perfect example of the nonsense we have to put up with. I'm no Killjoy, just fed up reading crap:=( Read this and pay attention. "Note - in the moderator's opinion (that's me, folks, in case anyone forgot... :-), this is probably the best summary of what's ok for off-topic discussions. I think one other factor is that they're generally for things that are not considered serious topics somewhere else, so major, world-shaking, news-breaking events, usually don't get consideration here since there's probably already at least 1 other place where they would be better discussed. Anyone who didn't read this when it came around should take a moment and do so... [Heck, even if you did read it the first time around, give it another shot. :-)] Ben Cohen, Moderator, BOC-L >My understanding of the "off-topic" was that it was a musical one so >that the occasional non Hawkwind or BOC related bands could be chattered >about for a few messages without raising dust from folk complaining that >a new discussion group ought to be formed or that the talk should be >taken off-line or whatever. This was also extended to cover topics >that only tenuously related to the bands. However I think it was the >general understanding that discussion on off-topics should (a) be >restricted to only a few messages (b) that generally speaking it should >relate, however tenuously, to aspects of music or to the bands in >question and (c) if the discussion went on at any length it should be >taken off-list to be continued elsewhere. > >This has in practice meant the occasional fascinating observations on >all sorts of topics ranging from warfare through philosophy and religion >and politics, social and economic studies and heaven knows what. >There are occasions where off-topic discussions have gone on for such >length that they have almost taken over the list. But this is >rare. Mostly when someone asks for a topic to be moved then the >discussion shifts elsewhere." Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 02:56:58 -0700 From: Steve Moody Subject: Re: OFF: Re: What's happening?? There seem to be Killjoys amongst our happy family - They need to take their seditives and Exlax, get mellow and regular, then learn to appreciate and enjoy the special brand of humor of all the colorful characters of this website. Steve the Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:04 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > actually I must admit I don't mind the 'irrelevant' postings one bit - > entertaining and fun - you can't have facts all the time - and what else is > the delete button there for, anyway?? > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mich at el B" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > > > > imagine if everyone on all his lists replied to him to say > > > > Ok man - no problem - I'll do it just for you > > > > tee hee > > > > read below if necessary>>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bart Brugmans > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:58 AM > > Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > oke everybody, for the sake of this list (and my health ;-), could we > > > all please USE OFF: in the subject-line when we are not posting > > > anything relevant? > > > > > > my mailfilters won't work, and that annoys me just a little bit too > > > much. I am on over 25 maillists, so filtering is essential. > > > > > > thanx a lot, > > > Bart > > > > > > On 11 Jun 2001, at 17:05, Layla Thompson wrote: > > > > > > Date sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:05:45 +0100 > > > Send reply to: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > > > > From: Layla Thompson > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > > > > five lists??!?! All to the one email address?? > > > > > > > > > > > > That would drive me nuts! > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:41pm >>> > > > > I'm on 5 different lists, plus friends are usually getting on their > > > > pc's about now. CHEERS STEPHE > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:31 AM > > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > bombarded with mail from where??!?! > > > > > > > > What am I missing!?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > >>> Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM 06/11/01 04:10pm >>> > > > > EVERYONE is asleep on here. I'm being bombarded with mail. Too many > > > > lists. EEEEEKK > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:59 AM > > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > Subject: Re: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm on that list too!!!! > > > > > > > > Nothing much happening there either!! > > > > > > > > Layla > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> cosmos at WANADOO.NL 06/11/01 02:06pm >>> > > > > At 07:55 11-6-01 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >I'm here STEPHE > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > > > > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:01 AM > > > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > >Subject: What's happening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Is there just no one on the list at all... > > > > > > > > > > Or have I stopped getting the mail?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >HELP ME!!! Need Hawkwind imput!! > > > > > > > > > > Layla. > > > > > > > > hi layla > > > > > > > > well if you need hawkwind output go to the mailinglist on yahoo. > > > > they are about between 75-110 messages each day with out > > > > hawkwind...........!!! > > > > but it's still called hawkwind mailinglist. > > > > go to yahoo and search for hawkwind and take subscription. > > > > your inbox will be filled with......... > > > > > > > > andre > > > > > > > > > > > > | Nothing to do this summer? > > > | http://www.tao.ca/~ridefree/summithop/ > > > | > > > | ENGAGE! Tactical Media > > > | Bemuurde Weerd WZ3 NL-3513 BH Utrecht > > > | tel: +31 (0)30 2387516 gsm: +31 (0)6 24798780 > > > | fax: +31 (0)30 2387517 http://www.engage.nu From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed Jun 13 16:20:24 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:20:24 -0700 Subject: BOC: CotHM and other things Message-ID: > >>The intro to the song reminds me of Rainbow's "I need a lover that won't > >>drive me crazy" > > > >I don't recall any Rainbow song of that title. Are you thinking of > >something else, or is my memory fading with old age? > > Johnny Cougar Mellencamp? (and did Joan Jett cover that one or am I the > one with faulty memory?) John Cougar's Melon Camp - the original Pat Benatar - the 'hit' cover From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Jun 13 16:51:20 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:51:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Concert Attendance Message-ID: There is a virus about - it's called 'poor concert attendance'. Over here in the UK we have always had the idea that the USA events such as this would pull in more of an audience, but this now seems to be so rampant a situatiion everywhere. On the electronic music front, an annual event in Holland previously called Klem, now 'E-live' has been canceleled this year due to poor ticket sales - 4 years ago they were getting over 1000 people. The partner event, Alpha Centauri, only got 600+ people this year by getting Rick Wakeman to headline. In the UK, you couldn't put on the annual electronic music festivals we used to do without reckoning on around 125 people where it used to be 300-400+. On the space-rock front, Alan Davey's gigs are getting better attended but the average audience is rarely into three figures, low even for some of the small venues played, while Spacehead and Dr Hasbeen havea similar situation. Yet Hawkwind still do it wherever they go, obviously the known name that people put themselves out for. The theory runs that those of a 'certain age' or income bracket are either jaundiced of all the small conceerts and only go to big ones - or if they have to travel distance to the gigs,then the expensive peripherals make it all too much - and so on. So, are the up and coming bands, even the known ones, doomed to play to such small audiences and is there no way of redressing this situation? Just a thought for all........... Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Guizar" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 2:08 PM Subject: OFF: Quarkspace > Vacation's almost over :( I went to the 1st Intergalactic Spacerock > Concert and Light Show Saturday. Anyone else on the list go? I had > my nethawks shirt on. It looked like there was maybe 50 people > there. From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Jun 13 17:08:57 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:08:57 +0100 Subject: HW: SpaceBrock Message-ID: Steve, The mis-pressed SB differs from the correct one as follows: Omits: Life Form, Assassination, Do You Want This Body Additional: Damage Of Life (subtly different mix to the TAT & Church versions) Nothing to get excited about basically. Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Litchfield To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: HW: SpaceBrock > Err... sorry if this was posted ages ago and I missed it, but what's the > track listing (15 tracks) of the mis-pressed SpaceBrock, as sent out by > VoicePrint? I'm having a hard time matching it all up! > > Cheers > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ > From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Jun 13 18:52:16 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:52:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? In-Reply-To: <200106131956.PAA17440@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > There seem to be Killjoys amongst our happy family - They need to > take their > seditives and Exlax, get mellow and regular, then learn to appreciate and > enjoy the special brand of humor of all the colorful characters of this > website. > Steve the Moonman OK. Enough with the insults. Everything you post here goes to several hundred people. Some of them are at work, some run their own businesses. I've made close personal friends of several people on the list. I've been part of this happy family since 1994. This does not mean I want my inbox full of 50 messages of bullshit every day. If you want to flirt, take it off list. That's what I've always done. Once more, IT'S NOT A FUCKING CHAT ROOM. And don't quote the ENTIRE FUCKING MESSAGE every time. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Wed Jun 13 20:23:39 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:23:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: Quarkspace Message-ID: From: "K Henderson" > > The good points: the music was excellent. I managed to grab the > >3 new strange trips CD's (worth going just to get them), 3 CDs > >from Theater of the Mind, and 6 of Quarkspace. I went outside > >between bands and met Paul Williams. > > So who all played? Did this 'Theater of the Mind' fill in for Nucleon? > (I'm guessing Babylonian Tiles didn't make it?) Who are they and what are > they like? I'm not sure who the first band was (2 guys doing techno) - I was outside when they started. The second band was Arttek and the third was Quarkspace. http://artists2.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/Theatre_of_the_Mind/ has a little bio and some samples in mp3 and real. Jerry From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jun 14 04:39:30 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:39:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Andy Gilham writes > >Once more, IT'S NOT A FUCKING CHAT ROOM. > >And don't quote the ENTIRE FUCKING MESSAGE every time. > >-- Andy I agree 100%. And while we're on the subject, an example of OFF: e.g. HW : Bob Calvert's work with Amon Duul The follow up might then be: OFF : Amon Duul's Best LP's I love OFF posts. I have discovered loads of great psyche and krautrock through the guys here. It's about spacerock and psychedelic music. Please, no politics here. I have my opinions and thoughts but they are not appropriate here. Neither are yours, gringo. BOC-L was the first thing I subscribed to seven years ago. I don't want to un-sub. Let's keep it coherent and relevant, yeah? cheers -- Jon From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Jun 14 05:12:42 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 04:12:42 -0500 Subject: Lemmy in Nina Hagen = Punk + Glory (1999) Message-ID: NinaHagen is like a female KLAUS NOMI!!! It really would be an interesting combo. If any one ever hears this PLEASE let me know. I am very curious. HAS TO BE VERY WEIRD!!!! STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Doug Pearson [mailto:jasret at MINDSPRING.COM] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 1:54 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Lemmy in Nina Hagen = Punk + Glory (1999) On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:35:54 -0500, Stephen Lindas wrote: >IT was in the MOTORHEADBANGERS fanzine. It didn't say if it was worth >getting or not. Personally I don't care for nina's music anymore. Just to >get it for LEMMY would be my only reason for getting it... Wow! Lemmy AND Klaus Kinski together ... two utterly unique individuals whose "real lives" actually live up to their images (unlike most celebrity poseur frauds) ... for better or worse ... Whether it's any "good" or not, it sure must be interesting ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com >-----Original Message----- >From: Karen Kusic [mailto:kkusic at EXECPC.COM] >Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 6:50 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Lemmy in Nina Hagen = Punk + Glory (1999) > > >This sounds interesting! Has anyone seen it? > >http://us.imdb.com/Title?0220666 From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Jun 14 05:18:08 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 04:18:08 -0500 Subject: OFF: Quarkspace Message-ID: I have the cd, its great. The last time they played, about a month ago, they were at each others throat. I hope they aren't finished. I was planning on seeing them in a few weeks at the NE OHIO arts and musics festival. Paul the space bass player used to be in the band SPACECORE. They opened up for HAWKWIND in 95 at Cleveland. They were fairly heavy space rock. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson [mailto:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:24 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Quarkspace >WHAT HAPPENED TO NUCLEON? I love them. STEPHE I think they just had to cancel for some reason. Not sure why. Perhaps some sort of conflict or something. Yeah, the first time I saw Nucleon (at SD'98 I guess), I wasn't so impressed. I thought they were just loud and unrefined. But they've really improved their songwriting over these last couple of years, and I think they've grown spacier perhaps due to their experiences at events like SD and seeing all the other bands. Stoner-type space-metal with synthesized bass doesn't sound like it would work, but it really does give them a unique character. Check out their first CD, 'Hyper Emitter' or whatever it's called...very good stuff, if kind of a muddy recording. Manic Moon is the label. I think nucleon.cjb.net is the band's website. Grakkl (FAA) From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Jun 14 05:53:49 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:53:49 +0200 Subject: Donnington Message-ID: Hi folks Anyone out there who will tape the DONNINGTON gig ? (video or audio) I am (of course) interested in a copy cheers Bernhard From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Jun 14 06:11:11 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:11:11 +0100 Subject: HW:He's Looking For Life... Message-ID: Did anyone check out Mars last night? It was in conjuction with Earth and the Sun for the first time in 12 years. With a small telescope you can see the ice cap and surface markings. Look low down to the south, you can't miss it and it's getting bigger each night! It reaches it's closest approach on 21st and 22nd June when it'll only be 41million miles away. Hey Dave, Wouldn't it be apt to play "Uncle Sam's on Mars" at Donington? Keef From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 14 06:15:50 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:45:50 +0930 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? Message-ID: well a few of us have been banned from yahoo groups without even a warning > >Once more, IT'S NOT A FUCKING CHAT ROOM. > > > >And don't quote the ENTIRE FUCKING MESSAGE every time. > > But I see it just fine to say FUCK on the lists tho ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Browne To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 6:09 PM Subject: OFF: What's happening?? > In article , Andy > Gilham writes > > > >Once more, IT'S NOT A FUCKING CHAT ROOM. > > > >And don't quote the ENTIRE FUCKING MESSAGE every time. > > > >-- Andy > > > I agree 100%. > > > > And while we're on the subject, an example of OFF: > > e.g. HW : Bob Calvert's work with Amon Duul > > The follow up might then be: > > OFF : Amon Duul's Best LP's > > I love OFF posts. I have discovered loads of great psyche and krautrock > through the guys here. It's about spacerock and psychedelic music. > > Please, no politics here. I have my opinions and thoughts but they are > not appropriate here. Neither are yours, gringo. > > BOC-L was the first thing I subscribed to seven years ago. I don't want > to un-sub. Let's keep it coherent and relevant, yeah? > > cheers > -- > Jon > From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Thu Jun 14 06:10:44 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:10:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Concerts, hmmm. Message-ID: Gotta say this is so true, even I admit to being guilty on occasion of suffering from the same 'virus'. I used to go to gigs regularly in my younger days and found some really excellent groups that way. Bands like ours (Dr Hasbeen) and Spacehead amongst others suffer from the fact that we don't play mainstream music, which appears to what 99.9% of venues want, even when we play a 'rock' oriented venue we still get asked the same question, "do ya do any other covers mate". Without sufficient funds to promote ourselves in the way that some of the mediocre mainstream stuff is pushed at us it's a case of doing what we can, when we can afford it, even people like Alan must suffer when they travel 200+ miles to do a gig and find 20-30 people there. It don't even pay the petrol... I can't think of a way to change the system for the better, if I could then we'd all be megastars now ! We do it because we enjoy it, and if on occasion we make a couple of beers out of it, whoopeee. My only hope is that some of the people on this list like Mr Dibs continue to make the efforts they do to keep us fed with the musical food we enjoy, the BADAMS of this world are few and far between. One day The Hawk will cease in it's current incarnation, it seems that due in part to the virus mentioned there is little chance of a 'live' band taking on the mantle, any band. We'll probably end up cocooned in our little virtual world having to be satisfied with studio only stuff, sad but most likely true. Anyway, I feel better now that I got that off my chest, back to the grindstone... Mark (Hasbeen) -------Original Message-------- Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:51:20 +0100 From: ANDREW GARIBALDI Subject: Re: OFF: Concert Attendance [snip] On the space-rock front, Alan Davey's gigs are getting better attended but the average audience is rarely into three figures, low even for some of the small venues played, while Spacehead and Dr Hasbeen havea similar situation. Yet Hawkwind still do it wherever they go, obviously the known name that people put themselves out for. The theory runs that those of a 'certain age' or income bracket are either jaundiced of all the small conceerts and only go to big ones - or if they have to travel distance to the gigs,then the expensive peripherals make it all too much - and so on. So, are the up and coming bands, even the known ones, doomed to play to such small audiences and is there no way of redressing this situation? Just a thought for all........... Andy Garibaldi From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Jun 14 06:16:43 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:16:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? In-Reply-To: <001e01c0f4ba$fd492ea0$f5d0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: > But I see it just fine to say FUCK on the lists tho I like to think we're all grownups here. -- Andy ObCD: Pretty Vacant - _No Vacancies_ www.andygilham.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Jun 14 07:19:59 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 05:19:59 -0600 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? In-Reply-To: <001e01c0f4ba$fd492ea0$f5d0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: "well a few of us have been banned from yahoo groups without even a warning:" Please allow me this slip in people,,,,, Micheal, we are not certain that we have been banned. I admit it seems a strong possibility, but we are not 100% certain that it's not malfunctioning... m From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Jun 14 06:20:20 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 05:20:20 -0500 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? Message-ID: That is a latin word. Doesn't the pope speak latin!!!!!STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:17 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: What's happening?? > But I see it just fine to say FUCK on the lists tho I like to think we're all grownups here. -- Andy ObCD: Pretty Vacant - _No Vacancies_ www.andygilham.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jun 14 07:23:51 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:23:51 EDT Subject: OFF: What's happening?? Message-ID: In a message dated 6/14/01 6:28:04 AM, Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << F*CK on the lists tho >> ==== didnt it come from the german word 'fick' as in 'fich dich'? "<>" From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Jun 14 07:29:01 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:29:01 +0100 Subject: NIK: Nik/Deviants in London! Message-ID: Part of an e-mail I got from Mick Farren this morning: ---- I'll be coming to the UK on around October 17th., for the publication of the book "Give The Anarchist A Cigarette" which is a kind of cultural autobiography covering the sixties and seventies. The Deviants will be with me, but unfortunately we will be playing just one show at the Astoria in London double billed with Nik Turner's band (essentially Hawkwind in everything but name.) [...] Tickets should go on sale for that in about a month. [...] As details are resolved they will be posted on the Funtopia website -- http://www.thanatosoft.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm ---- In related news, I just got a copy of Andy Colquhoun's PICK UP THE PHONE AMERICA, featuring Mick, Philthy Animal Taylor, Russell Hunter and Duncan Sanderson... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 14 07:48:10 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:18:10 +0930 Subject: HW:He's Looking For Life... Message-ID: I saw that last night big ole mars - thought it looked extra big hey Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 7:41 PM Subject: HW:He's Looking For Life... > Did anyone check out Mars last night? > It was in conjuction with Earth and the Sun for the first time in 12 > years. > With a small telescope you can see the ice cap and surface markings. > Look low down to the south, you can't miss it and it's getting bigger > each night! > It reaches it's closest approach on 21st and 22nd June when it'll only > be 41million miles away. > > Hey Dave, Wouldn't it be apt to play "Uncle Sam's on Mars" at Donington? > > Keef > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 14 07:45:25 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:45:25 +0100 Subject: OFFish: Mars Rising In-Reply-To: Keith Barton's message of Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:11:11 +0100 Message-ID: Keith Barton writes: > Did anyone check out Mars last night? I couldn't see it for Murphy's Magellanic Nebula. I did see it rising from our cottage in the Highlands a couple of weeks back. Very blood red in a deep blue sky. > It was in conjuction with Earth and the Sun for the first time in 12 > years. > With a small telescope you can see the ice cap and surface markings. > Look low down to the south, you can't miss it and it's getting bigger > each night! > It reaches it's closest approach on 21st and 22nd June when it'll only > be 41million miles away. If the clouds ever disappear, I'll be getting my Nexstar out. FoFP From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Jun 14 07:38:56 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 06:38:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? Message-ID: I thought it was the latin word for animal fornication. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 6:24 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: What's happening?? In a message dated 6/14/01 6:28:04 AM, Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << F*CK on the lists tho >> ==== didnt it come from the german word 'fick' as in 'fich dich'? "<>" From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 14 07:47:10 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:47:10 +0100 Subject: Donnington In-Reply-To: Bernhard Pospiech's message of Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:53:49 +0200 Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech writes: > Hi folks > > Anyone out there who will tape the DONNINGTON gig ? > (video or audio) > > I am (of course) interested in a copy I tried this last time but in general the talking in the crowds make this less than worthwhile in terms of results. If anyone knows of a way to get a desk tape done then that would be better. FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 14 07:51:21 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:21:21 +0930 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? Message-ID: does the pope shit in the woods? do bears have hairs? Niche! ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: Re: OFF: What's happening?? > That is a latin word. Doesn't the pope speak latin!!!!!STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:17 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: What's happening?? > > > > But I see it just fine to say FUCK on the lists tho > > I like to think we're all grownups here. > > -- Andy > > ObCD: Pretty Vacant - _No Vacancies_ > > www.andygilham.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jun 14 07:53:10 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:53:10 EDT Subject: BOC: Lyrics--Good? In-Reply-To: <3uhfit8uh9pnuie4s8es4fmtp7o2k8bbco@4ax.com> Message-ID: On 13 Jun 2001, at 21:06, Tim Hall wrote: > Ted Jackson wrote: > > >Yes! Shirley's use of straightforward narrative drives me nuts. Who > >would buy one of his novels if his song lyrics are so unimaginative? > >Has this guy ever heard of metaphors? > > I'd love to see the next album have lyrics by someone like Ken Hite, > who could boggle the minds of the people that thought they understood > Imaginos. -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com > I've been listening to CotHM a bit more, and it seems I'm only taking shots at JS, and not giving credit where he deserves praise. I'm not saying ALL his lyrics are bad, and in fact, some are pretty good indeed: TOGR: Vintage BOC stuff. Pocket: Great song in all respects, lyrics included EotH: Again, good lyrics, and very BOC-ish GtFH: Not the greatest, but still good, and plenty quirky. Could you give some examples of Hite's stuff? I'm not familiar with his work... theo From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Thu Jun 14 08:04:35 2001 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:04:35 +0100 Subject: BOC: Lyrics--Good? Message-ID: Theo wrote: > Could you give some examples of Hite's stuff? > I'm not familiar with his work... AFAIK he's never written any song lyrics (yet!), but check out " Supressed Transmission", published by Steve Jackson Games. -- Tim Hall http://www.kalyr.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Jun 14 08:05:28 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:05:28 +0100 Subject: BOC: Lyrics--Good? In-Reply-To: <3B286D64.3312.25DDE6@localhost> Message-ID: > I've been listening to CotHM a bit more, and it seems I'm only taking > shots at JS, and not giving credit where he deserves praise. I'm not > saying ALL his lyrics are bad, and in fact, some are pretty good > indeed: > TOGR: Vintage BOC stuff. Not convinced - "Sweep our cities"? And the opening - "Now is the time/the stars are in align/...ment" is a bit clumsy, if you ask me. > Pocket: Great song in all respects, lyrics included I think DR does a fantastic job of making the lyrics work! I think it's a bit long for a pop song, I find the "in this particular second" backing vox a bit wearing the fifth time around, but it and "Stone of Love" are the two best tracks for me. On the other side of the coin, I present for your enjoyment: "She'd process words to the dance music station." In fact I find "I Just Like To Be Bad" frankly awful in all respects. I'm actually rather disappointed with CotHM, overall. Although some of these will be killer live, I'm sure! -- Andy www.andygilham.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 14 08:10:13 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:40:13 +0930 Subject: off - test Message-ID: Has anyone here (who is on the Hawkwind at yahoo groups ) been getting ANY mail at all from the yahoo group? Love Mike B From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Thu Jun 14 08:06:41 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:06:41 -0400 Subject: BOC: Lyrics--Good? Message-ID: >> I'd love to see the next album have lyrics by someone like Ken Hite, >> who could boggle the minds of the people that thought they understood >> Imaginos. -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com Speaking of which, has Pearlman ever stated what songs/poems were in _Soft Doctrines of Imaginos_? Would be interesting to get his take on the setup for the song cycle, since we have Albert's rendition of the "events" in the story (available via the BOC FAQ). >I've been listening to CotHM a bit more, and it seems I'm only taking >shots at JS, and not giving credit where he deserves praise. I'm not >saying ALL his lyrics are bad, and in fact, some are pretty good intranet -only laden as I am at work, I can't actually read Shirley's words which, from what I gather on alt.music.blueoystercult, are posted now on the official BOC site. I do like (gasp!) the reference to wearing the all white suit in one of the songs Buck sings on Curse. Q: when was the last time Buck wore the all white Getup? and when did he start to wear the all black one he dons (no pun intended) now? Also, Theo,(and for all you Robin Trower fans out there), a recent issue of Guitar One special on classic guitarists, (march I think) did an interview with Mr. T(rower). a snippet is linked to on www.procolharum.com/whatsnew.htm -- and the tenuous space rock link for all you digest readers is that the supergroup "STMP" (members of spock's beard, dream theater among others) on their Transatlantic album did a cover of the 17 min. procol harum '68 opus "In Held Twas In I." "If you don't know the words, sing the lyrics" - overheard at the Highland games in Syracuse from the entertainment tent. Jason From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Jun 14 08:13:34 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:13:34 +0100 Subject: off - test Message-ID: "Mich at el B" wrote: > Has anyone here (who is on the Hawkwind at yahoo groups ) been getting ANY mail at all from the > yahoo group? Yep. I get several digests per day - very little, if any, Hawkwind content recently though! P.S. My UNIX box has just thrown up the following message: Need to figure out intelligence stuff... Need to figure out intelligence stuff... Need to figure out intelligence stuff... Need to figure out intelligence stuff... Hmmm, I've been thinking that for years! Keef From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Jun 14 08:07:49 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:07:49 -0500 Subject: off - test Message-ID: I think I'm still getting it.STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 7:10 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: off - test Has anyone here (who is on the Hawkwind at yahoo groups ) been getting ANY mail at all from the yahoo group? Love Mike B From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 14 08:24:33 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:54:33 +0930 Subject: off - test Message-ID: I aint getting shit - and I can't upload either messages that ius Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: Re: off - test > "Mich at el B" wrote: > > > Has anyone here (who is on the Hawkwind at yahoo groups ) been getting ANY mail at all from the > > yahoo group? > > Yep. I get several digests per day - very little, if any, Hawkwind content recently though! > > P.S. My UNIX box has just thrown up the following message: > > Need to figure out intelligence stuff... > Need to figure out intelligence stuff... > Need to figure out intelligence stuff... > Need to figure out intelligence stuff... > > > Hmmm, I've been thinking that for years! > > Keef > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jun 14 08:28:15 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:28:15 EDT Subject: BOC: Lyrics--Good? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 14 Jun 2001, at 13:05, Andy Gilham wrote: > > I've been listening to CotHM a bit more, and it seems I'm only > > taking shots at JS, and not giving credit where he deserves praise. > > I'm not saying ALL his lyrics are bad, and in fact, some are pretty > > good indeed: TOGR: Vintage BOC stuff. > > Not convinced - "Sweep our cities"? And the opening - "Now is the > time/the stars are in align/...ment" is a bit clumsy, if you ask me. > Well, I'm trying to cut the guy a break... > > Pocket: Great song in all respects, lyrics included > > I think DR does a fantastic job of making the lyrics work! I think > it's a bit long for a pop song, I find the "in this particular second" > backing vox a bit wearing the fifth time around, Yeah, that and the aforementioned '...exactly from TOGR...' but it and "Stone of > Love" are the two best tracks for me. > > On the other side of the coin, I present for your enjoyment: "She'd > process words to the dance music station." In fact I find "I Just > Like To Be Bad" frankly awful in all respects. > Music's okay, but the lyrics...ugh... > I'm actually rather disappointed with CotHM, overall. Although some > of these will be killer live, I'm sure! > I can only say that it gets better and better, the more I listen to it. Generally, I'm pretty impressed with it, given some reservations. I do wish BD had let loose a bit more on his solos. A couple of songs, the solos are killer, but too short. I still like it way better than HF... theo From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jun 14 08:31:21 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:31:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, mike c wrote: => "well a few of us have been banned from yahoo groups without even a warning:" => => Please allow me this slip in people,,,,, => Micheal, we are not certain that we have been banned. I admit it seems a => strong possibility, but we are not 100% certain that it's not => malfunctioning... Wise words indeed, Mike. For one, folks should check they're not sending mail in HTML format to mailing lists/groups that may have been (recently) configured to reject it. Secondly, it may be that the mail relay you use has appeared in one of the RBL databases (e.g., as an "open relay"), and so you should complain to your ISP about that one. (Doug Pearson and Keith Henderson abruptly dropped off BOC-L due to that.) Having said all that, some list owners might see an incessant barrage of repeated quoted messages with "me too!" or "LOL!" prepended as a denial of service attack on their list, and take appropriate steps... >;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jun 14 08:37:23 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:37:23 EDT Subject: BOC: Lyrics--Good? In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F6635@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: On 14 Jun 2001, at 8:06, Scruton, Jason wrote: > I do like (gasp!) the reference to wearing the all white suit in one > of the songs Buck sings on Curse. > > Q: when was the last time Buck wore the all white Getup? and when did > he start to wear the all black one he dons (no pun intended) now? > Good question. Did the white suit predate the Buck Rogers outfit? I'm almost sure it did. I know on Live '76, EB intros Buck's Boogie with a reference to '...the man in the white suit...' I'm thinking the Buck Rogers outfit happened, maybe after Spectres? I know that he wore it around the time he started using Giuliano's guitars, and there's a credit for Juli's guitars on the Mirrors album...The black clothes? He's been wearing black on all recent tours, not sure when it started. Is BD wearing a moustache again? > Also, Theo,(and for all you Robin Trower fans out there), a recent > issue of Guitar One I've got that one. Short but sweet interview with a great player... theo From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 14 08:46:53 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:16:53 +0930 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? Message-ID: > > Having said all that, some list owners might see an incessant barrage of > repeated quoted messages with "me too!" or "LOL!" prepended as a denial > of service attack on their list, and take appropriate steps... >;-) > EVEN email that has a perfectly legitimate topic etc and sensible dialogue? I have had three such posts disapear? From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jun 14 08:43:36 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:43:36 -0400 Subject: Donnington In-Reply-To: <200106141147.MAA16778@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, M Holmes wrote: => I tried this last time but in general the talking in the crowds make => this less than worthwhile in terms of results. If anyone knows of a way => to get a desk tape done then that would be better. At the last Allman Brothers Band gig I went to there was this taper with a seemingly never-ending mic stand that he extended about 20 feet into the air above the crowd around him. Great for minimising chit chat on your recordings, I guess. :-) Then again, the ABB allow taping, so you can get better recordings than with bands that forbid it. Speaking of chit chat, I was listening to a recording of the Hawkwind 1975 Reading Festival show yesterday, and had to chuckle at the taper and his friend editorialising whilst watching the gig. I doubt he realised his comments would be immortalised for posterity. I particularly liked the part where he was pontificating on exactly when he would do the tape flip (a great tension-builder!:). I never thought I'd hear a taper discuss that on tape... ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Thu Jun 14 08:32:34 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:32:34 -0400 Subject: BOC: Lyrics--Good? Words -- bad? :) Message-ID: >Not convinced - "Sweep our cities"? demon janitors -- now that's a song topic :) >On the other side of the coin, I present for your enjoyment: >"She'd process words to the dance music station." In fact I find "I Just >Like To Be Bad" frankly awful in all respects. Yes. >I'm actually rather disappointed with CotHM, overall. Although some of >these will be killer live, I'm sure! The comparativist in me thinks of HF and CotHM like this -- they function in the way that Eponymous and Trepanation worked in my ears. HF, like Eponymous by tBS, was BOC's semi-present incarnation's attempt to feel out what it would be like to play in a studio together after being "on tour forever". After all, the Miranda/Rondinelli lineup wasn't the one that blessed us all with Cult Classic. besides CC and the Steve Schenck produced tracks on HF (like Still Burnin' -- which if they redid it with this lineup would likely sound a lot better) had they ever really spend big productive time in the studio? Either way, its their attempt, on the tracks that did have Miranda and Bobby R, to find a tentative way to communicate in such a different environment than the live venue, where they can rely on playing tunes X,y,z as common grounds. But new material?thats new to everyone. So, with this new one (getting back to my point (I had a point)?), its shows BOC as a stable unit for the first time since...'86? feeling at least More comfortable in the studio than they had been in the previous outing. Yet, they still don't' quite have the hang of going in and saying "hey guys, let's rock out for a few hours and see what happens." Trepanation had that same kinda feel -- like "man, we're getting to know each others grooves but we're not quite ready to blow your amps." This new set of BOC material is much more "written" sounding than old BOC, maybe because of Eric's writing style. Curse is a step in the right direction though. so cheers to that. for me, CotHM is a good, workmanlike effort. if god gave rock and roll to you, what kind of guitar and amp does He use? Jason From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Thu Jun 14 09:10:13 2001 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:10:13 EDT Subject: Donnington Message-ID: Hi At the fairport convention festival ( cropredy) There are many people recording, This is done by having a pole with a flag on the end of it, the mics are attached at the top, recording quality is pretty good from the tapes i've listen to. regards Iain From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Jun 14 09:21:26 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:21:26 -0400 Subject: Megadeth/BOC - For Whom The Bell Tolls? Message-ID: > Grabbed a cover of "For Whom the Bell Tolls" from gnapster that > supposedly features BOC and Megedeth. At first listen, the lead > vocals do sound a lot like Bloom and there's a fill or two that > could be Buck. > > Or not. > > Anyone know what it is that I'm really hearing? What you are hearing is Eric Bloom on vocals, and Al Pitrelli (who filled in for Allen Lanier w/BOC in late 99/early 2000) on guitar. John From AgentOF at AOL.COM Thu Jun 14 09:26:59 2001 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:26:59 EDT Subject: BOC: Lyrics--Good? Message-ID: In a message dated 6/14/01 5:37:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: > >>He's been wearing black on all recent tours, not sure > when it started. Is BD wearing a mustache again? > No Stache. As a matter of fact, Buck, as well as I, isn't sporting much hair anywhere these days :-) chuck The Buzz loves the Houston Heat From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jun 14 09:31:04 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:31:04 EDT Subject: Megadeth/BOC - For Whom The Bell Tolls? In-Reply-To: <3B28BA56.B17B4C0A@mitre.org> Message-ID: On 14 Jun 2001, at 9:21, John A. Swartz wrote: > > Grabbed a cover of "For Whom the Bell Tolls" from gnapster > > that supposedly features BOC and Megedeth. At first listen, > > the lead vocals do sound a lot like Bloom and there's a fill > > or two that could be Buck. > > > > Or not. > > > > Anyone know what it is that I'm really hearing? > > > What you are hearing is Eric Bloom on vocals, and Al Pitrelli (who > filled in for Allen Lanier w/BOC in late 99/early 2000) on guitar. > And who is now in Megadeth, I believe... theo From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Thu Jun 14 09:32:03 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:32:03 -0600 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? In-Reply-To: <12d.58ff4.2859f8c7@aol.com> Message-ID: Is that where that song lyric comes from: "Oh, what a dich. She smell's just like a fich?" TML -----Original Message----- In a message dated 6/14/01 6:28:04 AM, Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << F*CK on the lists tho >> ==== didnt it come from the german word 'fick' as in 'fich dich'? "<>" From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 13 06:07:06 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:07:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: OFF In-Reply-To: <200106121814.OAA07532@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200106121814.OAA07532 at listserv.spc.edu>, Zeitgeist writes >Any one else pissed off with the OFF posts which are just too off. > >Stuart Yup. BOC-L was the first thing I signed to seven or eight years ago, and is a home from home alright. It would be a shame to un-sub, but I'm thinking about it. OFF is for related music, not any old shit. I like OFF posts. I've heard of loads of good psychedelic bands, krautrock etc from OFF posts, but it's about music yeah? -- Jon From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 14 11:04:20 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:34:20 +0930 Subject: OFF: OFF Message-ID: Dear Loyal fellow Hawkfans ( Ladies included now!!) I can see that the recent posts have caused much a stir amongst our ranks and out of respect for you all and they whom we adore (HAWKWIND) i hereby promise to keep my input to a legitimate nature namely Hawkwind and related matter all other matters will be conducted privately or in other forums This list rules as does Hawkwind at yahoo !! So please find it in your hearts to welcome the prodigal sons & daughters (no particular order) back within the ranks once again? Regards Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Browne To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 7:37 PM Subject: Re: OFF: OFF > In article <200106121814.OAA07532 at listserv.spc.edu>, Zeitgeist > writes > >Any one else pissed off with the OFF posts which are just too off. > > > >Stuart > > > Yup. > > BOC-L was the first thing I signed to seven or eight years ago, and is a > home from home alright. It would be a shame to un-sub, but I'm thinking > about it. > > OFF is for related music, not any old shit. > > I like OFF posts. I've heard of loads of good psychedelic bands, > krautrock etc from OFF posts, but it's about music yeah? > > -- > Jon From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Jun 14 11:04:18 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:04:18 +0100 Subject: HW:Xmas Party Message-ID: Does anyone know the current status of the Astoria CD? i.e is it going to get released? Keef From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jun 14 11:08:06 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:08:06 EDT Subject: OFF: OFF In-Reply-To: <00b001c0f4e3$4af07500$e4cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On 15 Jun 2001, at 0:34, Mich at el B wrote: > Dear Loyal fellow Hawkfans ( Ladies included now!!) > > I can see that the recent posts have caused much a stir amongst our > ranks > > and out of respect for you all and they whom we adore (HAWKWIND) > i hereby promise to keep my input to a legitimate nature > > namely Hawkwind and related matter > > all other matters will be conducted privately or in other forums > > This list rules as does Hawkwind at yahoo !! > > So please find it in your hearts to welcome the prodigal sons & > daughters (no particular order) back within the ranks once again? > No problem...As long as you say 10 Hail Marys, 10 Our Fathers and ten Rosaries while climbing the Vatican stairs on your knees... And have a nice day, and thanks for using Confession.com...If your future needs involve forgiveness, we hope you'll call confession.com again... theo From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 14 11:16:56 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:46:56 +0930 Subject: HW:Xmas Party Message-ID: Kris said it would! Kris -oh Kris where for art thou? Is this ok guys? The Humbled Looney ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:34 AM Subject: HW:Xmas Party > Does anyone know the current status of the Astoria CD? > i.e is it going to get released? > > Keef > From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Jun 14 11:29:12 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:29:12 +0100 Subject: NIK: Greasy Truckers 2001 Message-ID: Well, a little bit of web-fu later, and it turns out tickets are now on sale for this event, on Sunday October 21st at the London Astoria at 18:30, with the Deviants, Nik & co, Man and ICU. So naturally I've ordered mine already. All the usual outlets should have them, www.wayahead.com and www.ticketmaster.co.uk do for sure. See a lot of you there, I expect! -- Andy www.andygilham.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jun 14 12:12:52 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:12:52 -0400 Subject: NIK: Greasy Truckers 2001 Message-ID: My ticket is on its way too! Should be a fun night! From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jun 14 12:39:15 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:39:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: Quarkspace et al. Message-ID: SL says... >I have the cd, its great. The last time they played, about a month ago, they >were at each others throat. I hope they aren't finished. I was planning on >seeing them in a few weeks at the NE OHIO arts and musics festival. See below...I guess the issue was not internal strife. >Paul the space bass player used to be in the band SPACECORE. They opened up for >HAWKWIND in 95 at Cleveland. They were fairly heavy space rock. STEPHE Oh, Wow...SpaceCore! Geez, I remember them, but I'm sure it was earlier than the '95 tour. That was the big show at the Agora! I can't remember who it was that opened that show (seems like there may have been no opener?), but I'm pretty sure it wasn't the SpaceCore guys. (I've been wrong before though.) It just seems like longer ago when I saw them, and in a smaller club. Let's see, '89 was at the Phantasy Theater w/ My Dad Is Dead (plus annoying rap-like music over the PA for about 90 minutes before HW finally came out). '90 w/ Bridgett they played two consecutive shows at the Empire. I think Sosumi opened one of those shows (worst band ever!), and perhaps SpaceCore the other? And then in '91 (again at the Empire?) was the trio HW, and I think one of those two bands opened that show also. I'm sure I saw SpaceCore twice (also Sosumi twice sadly), but can't be sure if both times were with Hawkwind. I remember they wore white jumpsuits or something...I don't remember them being anywhere near as heavy as Nucleon (more 'widdly'), and I'm surprised to hear that Paul Resnik hailed from that band. OK, folks, what was the strangest opening act you've seen for Hawkwind? My vote would have to go to either A. Sex Kittens, at the Thirsty Whale in suburban Chicago (although there was only one Sex Kitten, the lead singer (the rest being men), who was actually at the HW show the previous night at the Cubby Bear, in full 'Sex Kitten' attire), or B. the Limelight Cage Dancer, similarly attired. (More interesting than Braindance anyway, as Dave Kuznik (I think) and I spent most of the time trying to determine the gender of the lead guitarist (Vora Vor is her name, I now know), which wouldn't have been an issue if it weren't for the questionable genders of many of the other local attendees to the club, not including Bill Stewart.) Funny, it seemed to me that both my choices attracted extended attention from one particular Elfin bass player. >>WHAT HAPPENED TO NUCLEON? I love them. STEPHE > >I think they just had to cancel for some reason. Not sure why. Perhaps >some sort of conflict or something. Paul W. tells me... Nucleon: They had some gear recently stolen, thus the non-appearance. They are supposedly going to be playing with us (Quarkspace) at the Robin Hood Inn in Kent on July 21st (Sat.). SFLS doing the lights. BTW, The first band (a trip-hop duo) was called Bug Light. Paul says that despite less than stellar attendence, they enjoyed playing the show and that the club owner liked them, and they hope to come back for a show there with Harvey & Quimby. Philly and NY folks should make their plans to visit Allentown early! Grakkl (FAA) From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Jun 14 13:57:24 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:57:24 -0500 Subject: OFF: Quarkspace et al. Message-ID: YES I swear they opened at the agora 95. They blew me away. Before that they were a thrash band called DESTRUCTOR. Some of NUCLEONS equipment is still marked such. I got one of the tapes they threw into the audience. Maybe they opened more than once. I only saw SPACECORE that one time. IS HARVEY playing in KENT. Thats like 15min from my house. I'll see you there JUL 21st. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson [mailto:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 11:39 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Quarkspace et al. SL says... >I have the cd, its great. The last time they played, about a month ago, they >were at each others throat. I hope they aren't finished. I was planning on >seeing them in a few weeks at the NE OHIO arts and musics festival. See below...I guess the issue was not internal strife. >Paul the space bass player used to be in the band SPACECORE. They opened up for >HAWKWIND in 95 at Cleveland. They were fairly heavy space rock. STEPHE Oh, Wow...SpaceCore! Geez, I remember them, but I'm sure it was earlier than the '95 tour. That was the big show at the Agora! I can't remember who it was that opened that show (seems like there may have been no opener?), but I'm pretty sure it wasn't the SpaceCore guys. (I've been wrong before though.) It just seems like longer ago when I saw them, and in a smaller club. Let's see, '89 was at the Phantasy Theater w/ My Dad Is Dead (plus annoying rap-like music over the PA for about 90 minutes before HW finally came out). '90 w/ Bridgett they played two consecutive shows at the Empire. I think Sosumi opened one of those shows (worst band ever!), and perhaps SpaceCore the other? And then in '91 (again at the Empire?) was the trio HW, and I think one of those two bands opened that show also. I'm sure I saw SpaceCore twice (also Sosumi twice sadly), but can't be sure if both times were with Hawkwind. I remember they wore white jumpsuits or something...I don't remember them being anywhere near as heavy as Nucleon (more 'widdly'), and I'm surprised to hear that Paul Resnik hailed from that band. OK, folks, what was the strangest opening act you've seen for Hawkwind? My vote would have to go to either A. Sex Kittens, at the Thirsty Whale in suburban Chicago (although there was only one Sex Kitten, the lead singer (the rest being men), who was actually at the HW show the previous night at the Cubby Bear, in full 'Sex Kitten' attire), or B. the Limelight Cage Dancer, similarly attired. (More interesting than Braindance anyway, as Dave Kuznik (I think) and I spent most of the time trying to determine the gender of the lead guitarist (Vora Vor is her name, I now know), which wouldn't have been an issue if it weren't for the questionable genders of many of the other local attendees to the club, not including Bill Stewart.) Funny, it seemed to me that both my choices attracted extended attention from one particular Elfin bass player. >>WHAT HAPPENED TO NUCLEON? I love them. STEPHE > >I think they just had to cancel for some reason. Not sure why. Perhaps >some sort of conflict or something. Paul W. tells me... Nucleon: They had some gear recently stolen, thus the non-appearance. They are supposedly going to be playing with us (Quarkspace) at the Robin Hood Inn in Kent on July 21st (Sat.). SFLS doing the lights. BTW, The first band (a trip-hop duo) was called Bug Light. Paul says that despite less than stellar attendence, they enjoyed playing the show and that the club owner liked them, and they hope to come back for a show there with Harvey & Quimby. Philly and NY folks should make their plans to visit Allentown early! Grakkl (FAA) From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Jun 14 14:18:44 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:18:44 EDT Subject: OFF: Quarkspace et al. Message-ID: In a message dated 6/14/2001 1:52:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: << Paul says that despite less than stellar attendence, they enjoyed playing the show and that the club owner liked them, and they hope to come back for a show there with Harvey & Quimby. Philly and NY folks should make their plans to visit Allentown early! >> What!! No NY show. Regards, Bill Stewart From starfield at SUPANET.COM Thu Jun 14 14:18:59 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:18:59 +0100 Subject: HW:He's Looking For Life... Message-ID: What a cracking idea, Grommit! However I suspect the set list to be already decided, but I'll mention it to him anyway. Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 11:11 AM Subject: HW:He's Looking For Life... > Did anyone check out Mars last night? > It was in conjuction with Earth and the Sun for the first time in 12 > years. > With a small telescope you can see the ice cap and surface markings. > Look low down to the south, you can't miss it and it's getting bigger > each night! > It reaches it's closest approach on 21st and 22nd June when it'll only > be 41million miles away. > > Hey Dave, Wouldn't it be apt to play "Uncle Sam's on Mars" at Donington? > > Keef From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Thu Jun 14 14:23:14 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:23:14 -0600 Subject: HW:strangest opening acts (was OFF: Quarkspace et al.) In-Reply-To: <200106141752.NAA11458@mail5.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Hopefully, someone can provide the identity of the male acoustic guitar playing singer that opened at the Space Ritual show at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium (12/73) and again at the Space 1999 Party at the Embassy Auditorium, Los Angeles before Man's set ('74.) Apparently, a friend of the band, but not of the audience as he was cut short with boo's and a hail of marshmallows. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of K Henderson >snip OK, folks, what was the strangest opening act you've seen for Hawkwind? My vote would have to go to either A. Sex Kittens or B. the Limelight Cage Dancer... From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Thu Jun 14 14:42:19 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:42:19 +0100 Subject: HW:strangest opening acts (was OFF: Quarkspace et al.) Message-ID: "Out On Blue SIx" at the Lyceum 1980. They pretty much got bottled off and almost deserved it. ----- Original Message ----- > >snip > > OK, folks, what was the strangest opening act you've seen for Hawkwind? My > vote would have to go to either > A. Sex Kittens or > B. the Limelight Cage Dancer... > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Jun 14 16:51:20 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:51:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: space-rock that isn't Hawkwind Message-ID: too right it's about music - so my recommendation to one all tonight is the Spacehopper album on the eclectic Stone Premonitions label - if you only get one album off that label, for space-rock, this has to be it - superb stuff; and stay on Jon - you know it makes sense!! Andy Gaibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Browne" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:07 AM Subject: Re: OFF: OFF > In article <200106121814.OAA07532 at listserv.spc.edu>, Zeitgeist > writes OFF is for related music, not any old shit. > > I like OFF posts. I've heard of loads of good psychedelic bands, > krautrock etc from OFF posts, but it's about music yeah? > > -- > Jon From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Jun 14 16:53:57 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:53:57 +0100 Subject: HW:Xmas Party Message-ID: Lat I heard it was supposed to be with Voiceprint but after the......errr....'conflict' about the 'free' CD, I'm not sure if this is the case any more - and the Hawkwind Nott '90 that we were told would be out beginning June is still not yet assigned a release date, so it's all the usual mystery I'm afraid. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barton" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 4:04 PM Subject: HW:Xmas Party > Does anyone know the current status of the Astoria CD? > i.e is it going to get released? > > Keef From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Jun 14 16:29:31 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:29:31 EDT Subject: HW Line-up Message-ID: Who will be in the line-up for the Hawks at Donnington? regards, Bill Stewart From starfield at SUPANET.COM Thu Jun 14 17:15:03 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:15:03 +0100 Subject: HW Line-up Message-ID: Expect to see the usual crew plus Huw, who's in fine form at the moment, actually. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Stewart To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 9:29 PM Subject: HW Line-up > Who will be in the line-up for the Hawks at Donnington? > > regards, > Bill Stewart From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Jun 14 17:34:45 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:34:45 +0100 Subject: HW: ICU video Message-ID: Hi, I was having a clear out of my videos the other day and came across one labelled as ICU & Bob. I assumed it was a 2nd copy of the Dingwalls 85 2 hour video but thought I'd just check and discovered that this is actually a 1 hour video of ICU & Bob playing a gig presumably in 85 as it includes Paint Your Windows White. Band members include Nik, Bob, Fred, Steve & the drummer from 85. The quality is excellent with multiple camera angles and close ups etc but thankfully no special effects like the ones on the Dingwalls video. The venue itself may well be Dingwalls for all I know but it definitely isn't the aforementioned video. No Dave Anderson to start off with. The quality is good enough for me to think that it well be semi-official. Anybody any ideas as to date and venue? Track list = Watching The Grass Grow, Raj Neesh, Damnation Alley, Fallout, Space Invaders, The Times They Are A Changing, Solitary Ashtray, Spirit Of The Age, Paint Your Windows White, Acid Rain, World Of LSD, Ejection, Little Black Egg (edit) Jez From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jun 14 17:55:53 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:55:53 +0100 Subject: HW:strangest opening acts (was OFF: Quarkspace et al.) Message-ID: LOL My Sister saw Hawkwind a few years back when Ron and his freeaking Robot were supporting, I think hes qualified as the strangest opening act. I saw K-REL as support and while not strange they were the biggest bunch of Space Pirates I've ever seen ;-) They played Better than Hawkwind that night. Rich W From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jun 14 18:23:41 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:23:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Legalise Cannabis gig Message-ID: So are HW playing or not? No details on the link. Makes a big difference as to whether we go or down... --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jun 14 17:12:12 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:12:12 -0400 Subject: HW: Cleveland Shows Message-ID: Stephe says... >YES I swear they (SpaceCore) opened at the agora 95. They blew me away. OK, I believe you...that musta been the other time I saw them. Which would mean that Sosumi opened the '91 Empire show. (?) Ugh. So, to tabulate Cleveland HW gigs since 1978... Yr Venue HW lineup Opener(s) '89 Phantasy Theater 4-piece w/ Harvey My Dad Is Dead (plus awful 'rap') '90 Empire (2 shows) 5-piece w/ Bridgett Sosumi & SpaceCore '91 Empire Trio Sosumi '95 Agora 4-piece w/ Ron SpaceCore '97 ?* Ditto? ?* '98 Nelson Ledges JR/ST/SH/RC/CR N/A '02 We can only hope * dunno...was out of the country Anyone disagree? >IS HARVEY playing in KENT. Thats like 15min from my house. I'll see you there >JUL 21st. Well, that's a completely different show - long before Harvey comes (October?). And I think I remember Paul saying that the guy who booked the show at the Robin Hood was fired, so don't expect any more spacerock/prog shows there (sadly). Grakkl (FAA) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Jun 14 19:37:13 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:37:13 -0600 Subject: HW: Cleveland Shows In-Reply-To: <200106142225.SAA07698@mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: "YES I swear they (SpaceCore) opened at the agora 95. They blew me away." I am suffering serious sleep deprivation at this point....but in case it matters..I was at that show as well as Stephe, and it was Spacecore there. m From chrisr at TIAC.NET Thu Jun 14 18:48:35 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:48:35 -0400 Subject: HW: Cleveland Shows Message-ID: Did Steve Taylor play in Space Core? I saw him a couple of times with Sun Machine in Cleveland. I thought they were great! Is Steve Taylor in a band right now? Also is Nik Riff still around OH. I thought they were real good at SD 97, and have not heard anything from them since then, Chris K Henderson wrote: > > Stephe says... > > >YES I swear they (SpaceCore) opened at the agora 95. They blew me away. > > OK, I believe you...that musta been the other time I saw them. Which would > mean that Sosumi opened the '91 Empire show. (?) Ugh. > > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Jun 14 19:02:13 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:02:13 -0400 Subject: HW: Cleveland Shows Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:12:12 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >So, to tabulate Cleveland HW gigs since 1978... > >Yr Venue HW lineup Opener(s) >'89 Phantasy Theater 4-piece w/ Harvey My Dad Is Dead ... >'90 Empire (2 shows) 5-piece w/ Bridgett Sosumi & SpaceCore >'91 Empire Trio Sosumi >'95 Agora 4-piece w/ Ron SpaceCore The '95 lineup was Brock/Davey/Chadwick/Tree >'97 ?* Ditto? ?* The '97 lineup was Brock/Richards/Tree/Chadwick. The opening band in Cleveland at the Phantasy was Einstein's Secret Orchestra (who played at Strange Daze a couple years later, and are notable for including Chas Smith, who played with the Pagans and the [Radio Alarm] Clocks). The New York City show that year (Coney Island High) definitely had one of the stranger Hawkwind-openers in the Bunnybrains. >'98 Nelson Ledges JR/ST/SH/RC/CR N/A >'02 We can only hope >* dunno...was out of the country > >Anyone disagree? See above ;^) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Jun 14 19:05:24 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:05:24 -0400 Subject: HW Line-up Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:15:03 +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >Expect to see the usual crew plus Huw ... (Not that I'll be there :^(, but ...) Does "the usual crew" include Alan, Harvey and/or Simon, since they've played most of the last few shows, despite not currently being among the "official" members (DB/JR/RT/KK/RC)? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Thu Jun 14 19:15:48 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:15:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Quarkspace et al. Message-ID: From: "K Henderson" > Paul says that despite less than stellar attendence, they enjoyed playing > the show and that the club owner liked them, and they hope to come back for > a show there with Harvey & Quimby. Philly and NY folks should make their > plans to visit Allentown early! I can't wait. I'll definately go to that one. Jerry obCD: Quarkspace Debut CD From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Jun 14 20:24:55 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:24:55 +0100 Subject: HW: ICU video In-Reply-To: <000b01c0f51a$05d3df20$1d13883e@jezd> Message-ID: In article <000b01c0f51a$05d3df20$1d13883e at jezd>, J D writes > Hi, >I was having a clear out of my videos the other day and came across one labelled >as ICU & Bob. >I assumed it was a 2nd copy of the Dingwalls 85 2 hour video but thought I'd >just check and discovered that this is actually a 1 hour video of ICU & Bob >playing a gig presumably in 85 as it includes Paint Your Windows White. >Band members include Nik, Bob, Fred, Steve & the drummer from 85. >The quality is excellent with multiple camera angles and close ups etc but >thankfully no special effects like the ones on the Dingwalls video. >The venue itself may well be Dingwalls for all I know but it definitely isn't >the aforementioned video. No Dave Anderson to start off with. >The quality is good enough for me to think that it well be semi-official. >Anybody any ideas as to date and venue? >Track list = Watching The Grass Grow, Raj Neesh, Damnation Alley, Fallout, Space >Invaders, The Times They Are A Changing, Solitary Ashtray, Spirit Of The Age, >Paint Your Windows White, Acid Rain, World Of LSD, Ejection, Little Black Egg >(edit) >Jez > I have a list somewhere, but I can't find it... if no-one else knows, you could try asking oldhitz records in Newcastle (www.oldhitz.co.uk), apparently the owner used to be ICUs sound engineer, and they released ICUs Passout CD and some videos in the 80s, it could be one of their productions. -- David Blair From CCollins54 at AOL.COM Thu Jun 14 23:44:41 2001 From: CCollins54 at AOL.COM (CCollins54 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:44:41 EDT Subject: Pyramidion new Ozric cd Message-ID: Hi All: If anyone is interested in the new Ozric CD Pyramidion, I have it in stock and it is $20.00 which includes postage. You can either e-mail me or write. Peace and Love, Jim Collins P. O. Box 307 Crete, IL 60417 From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Jun 15 04:21:46 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:21:46 +0100 Subject: ICU video Message-ID: When you find out the origin of this vid please let me know - I want one, want one, want one more!!!!!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: J D [mailto:Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK] Sent: 14 June 2001 22:35 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: ICU video Hi, I was having a clear out of my videos the other day and came across one labelled as ICU & Bob. I assumed it was a 2nd copy of the Dingwalls 85 2 hour video but thought I'd just check and discovered that this is actually a 1 hour video of ICU & Bob playing a gig presumably in 85 as it includes Paint Your Windows White. Band members include Nik, Bob, Fred, Steve & the drummer from 85. The quality is excellent with multiple camera angles and close ups etc but thankfully no special effects like the ones on the Dingwalls video. The venue itself may well be Dingwalls for all I know but it definitely isn't the aforementioned video. No Dave Anderson to start off with. The quality is good enough for me to think that it well be semi-official. Anybody any ideas as to date and venue? Track list = Watching The Grass Grow, Raj Neesh, Damnation Alley, Fallout, Space Invaders, The Times They Are A Changing, Solitary Ashtray, Spirit Of The Age, Paint Your Windows White, Acid Rain, World Of LSD, Ejection, Little Black Egg (edit) Jez The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 15 05:33:22 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 04:33:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Cleveland Shows Message-ID: Steve Taylor is doing the STAR NATION thing last I talked to him in Oct. I don't think he was in SPACECORE. I saw SUN MACHINE once. They were great. If it weren't for the singer, you could swear it was HAWKWIND. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Chris Raymond [mailto:chrisr at TIAC.NET] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:49 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Cleveland Shows Did Steve Taylor play in Space Core? I saw him a couple of times with Sun Machine in Cleveland. I thought they were great! Is Steve Taylor in a band right now? Also is Nik Riff still around OH. I thought they were real good at SD 97, and have not heard anything from them since then, Chris K Henderson wrote: > > Stephe says... > > >YES I swear they (SpaceCore) opened at the agora 95. They blew me away. > > OK, I believe you...that musta been the other time I saw them. Which would > mean that Sosumi opened the '91 Empire show. (?) Ugh. > > From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Jun 14 09:09:27 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:09:27 -0400 Subject: BOC: Lyrics--Good? In-Reply-To: <3B28759D.924.45FCB5@localhost> Message-ID: Andy Gilham wrote RE: Old Gods: >> Not convinced - "Sweep our cities"? And the opening - "Now is the >> time/the stars are in align/...ment" is a bit clumsy, if you ask me. Once I got past my initial cringe, I think the lyrics to Old Gods are pretty funny. They're a cousin of "direction (starlight) creation (star bright) foundation (we crossed the Einstein bridge tonight." ;-) BTW, has anyone else read the book the lyrics to Heavy Metal came from? The title's in the FAQ somewhere. I borrowed it from my college library a few years ago and it was pretty interesting (more fiction than science). A lot of the lyrics come from the chapter titles. Re: Pocket: >> I think it's a bit long for a pop song, Maybe the single version is edited down? It's interesting how they end a pop song with a pseudo live ending (drums, power chord). Maybe it's a natural result of it being played out for a long time before it was recorded? >> On the other side of the coin, I present for your enjoyment: "She'd >> process words to the dance music station." In fact I find "I Just >> Like To Be Bad" frankly awful in all respects. Theo replied: > Music's okay, but the lyrics...ugh... Agreed. Since reading the fan's comment on Like to Be Bad in the interview/chat with Eric, I can kind of hear the Who influence in the verses. I still don't like the song though. > I do wish BD had let loose a bit more on his solos. Make up your mind! You want them cut down live and built up in the studio? ;-) > I still like it way better > than HF... I think that's one thing we can all come to a consensus on. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jun 15 07:14:56 2001 From: markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM (mark cotton) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:14:56 -0000 Subject: HW:strangest opening acts (was OFF: Quarkspace et al.) Message-ID: I saw 'The Softies' open for the Hawks at Peterborough during the early eighties. They were a duo featuring a spitting skinhead vocalist and a Texan guitarist of doubtful persuasion. Needless to say the bar was well patronised during their set! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Fri Jun 15 07:52:33 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:52:33 -0400 Subject: BOC: Lyrics--Good? (veering OFF) Message-ID: >>> On the other side of the coin, I present for your enjoyment: "She'd >>> process words to the dance music station." In fact I find "I Just >>> Like To Be Bad" frankly awful in all respects. > >Theo replied: >> Music's okay, but the lyrics...ugh... > >Agreed. Since reading the fan's comment on Like to Be Bad in the >interview/chat with Eric, I can kind of hear the Who influence in the >verses. I still don't like the song though. > Speaking of the Who, there's just been released a Who tribute album called "Substitute" with tracks by D.Bowie (Pictures of Lily), and other notable to semi obscure bands. I don't hear the Who sound in like to be bad, myself. the song isn't as flexible as a townsend two chord riff. If its the same thing I heard overhead between sets at Don Hills, some girl rock group do a storming version of I Can See For Miles. Speaking of Covers, Sleater-Kinney have done a remake of Boston's "More than a Feeling." BTW, Govt. Mule Fans, they're playing in the capital region/Mohawk valley area as part of some bigger festival thing by Terrapin productions (or is it concerts?) I ll find out more if needed. if BOC ever end up doing TV these days, they should go on Conan o Brien's show playing "pocket" or Dance on Stilts, (though SYiB would be a great way to rile up the crowd with the way the song ends heavily and furiously)-- after all he had the 7 piece King Crimson on playing Dinosaur! there once was a note, listen Jason From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Fri Jun 15 08:27:57 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:27:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Query ? Message-ID: Any idea what's happening with the tree for the 3 CD set ? Mark (Hasbeen) From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Jun 15 08:50:16 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:50:16 -0500 Subject: BOC: PROGRESSIVE WORLD: Blue =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D6yster?= Cult - Curse Of The Hidden Mirror Message-ID: http://www.progressiveworld.net/boc.html Reviewed by: RIPZ, June 2001 Blue ?yster Cult makes no excuses for doing the Classic Rock thing. While Curse Of The Hidden Mirror doesn't contain really "classic" BOC songs like "Don't Fear The Reaper" or "Astronomy," it is a certain degree better than their comeback CD, the patchy Heaven Forbid. The new one is a bit more lightweight than Heaven Forbid and those looking for 70s style hard rock might be disappointed. What does make Curse Of The Hidden Mirror a novelty is how good the band (represented by the creative core of the original band) can do their 70s sound so well, singing included. Usually the singer's pipes are the first thing to go. I used to be a fan of BOC. I've seen them open for T Rex way back when Bolan was as plump as Lesley (Mountain) West. What was interesting about the early BOC - their sensuous exploration of the esoteric - was missing in the 80s and also in their last CD. It's nice to have them back, but where are the mystical meandering of great albums like Secret Treaties and Spectres? Where's that absolute brilliance of tracks like "Don't Fear The Reaper" and "I Love The Night"? About the only song that comes close to being a classic is track 8, "Out Of The Darkness". Most of the rest of the material is typical AOR, neither great, nor bad. The last half of the album has a smoother, less riff oriented feel. Though the keys are underplayed most of the time, track ten "Eye Of The Hurricane" has some effective synth work and great Hammond. As far as rocking, BOC doesn't have the jams to do the metal thing now. There's just so much great stuff out there from fresher younger bands. But Lanier, Bloom and company have the experience of life (and death); one expects some really mature things from them. Why is Classic Rock important in the Prog arena? Because in a way, Prog evolved from that Classic Rock sound. BOC, Tull, Ash, Heep, Cooper, Deep Purple all straddled both venues; some leaning and evolving away from prog, others more into it. In a sense, the two were like twins separated at birth. One went onto bigger, more complex and better things, eventually to become an underground obsession (Prog), and the other (Classic Rock), died a slow and painful death, only to survive in the minds of those who remember the glory days. I applaud BOC for waving the Classic Rock banner. But I know they still can do it better than this. More about Curse Of The Hidden Mirror: Track Listing: Dance on Stilts / Showtime / The Old Gods Return / Pocket / One Step Ahead Of The Devil / I Just Like To Be Bad / Here Comes That Feeling / Out Of The Darkness / Stone Of Love / Eye of the Hurricane / Good to Feel Hungry Musicians: Eric Bloom - vocals, guitars and keyboards Buck Dharma - vocals, guitars and keyboards Allen Lanier - guitars and keyboards Danny Miranda - bass, vocals and keyboards Bobby Rondinelli - Drums Contact: Website: www.blue?ystercult.com Note: will open new browser window Email: webmaster at blue?ystercult.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jun 15 08:51:29 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:51:29 -0400 Subject: HW: Query ? Message-ID: If you are referring to the Brixton CDs they are now with the first recipients and should start moving out along the branches within days. COLIN From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Jun 15 08:57:33 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:57:33 -0400 Subject: BOC: Lyrics--Good? (veering OFF) In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F6640@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: Jason wrote: > I don't hear the Who sound in like to be bad, myself. > the song isn't as flexible as a townsend two chord riff. It's more in the singing and the "feel" of the verses than the chords I think. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Jun 15 08:54:17 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:54:17 -0400 Subject: HW: Query ? Message-ID: If you mean the Hawkestra project over on neo_quark is in the hands of the Master Branches at this point. Bryan just sent them out. If you are referring to another set please accept my aplogies. Mike Mark Lee wrote: > > Any idea what's happening with the tree for the 3 CD set ? > > Mark (Hasbeen) -- ___________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Fri Jun 15 09:14:18 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:14:18 -0400 Subject: BOC: PROGRESSIVE WORLD on Curse Message-ID: > About the only song that comes close to being a classic is track 8, >"Out> Of The Darkness". Wow, that's a comment I wouldn't have expected anyone to say. > As far as rocking, BOC doesn't have the jams to do the metal thing > now. There's just so much great stuff out there from fresher younger > bands. But Lanier, Bloom and company have the experience of life > (and death); one expects some really mature things from them. Whose death could the reviewer be referring to? With the sad exception of Helen Wheels, has anyone else passed away in the constellation of friends and relations of the BOC universe? > Why is Classic Rock important in the Prog arena? Because in a way, > Prog evolved from that Classic Rock sound. BOC, Tull, Ash, Heep, I love it "Ash Heep" -- there's a supergroup title waiting to happen. ha! Jason From christmu at EUNET.NO Fri Jun 15 12:40:26 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:40:26 +0200 Subject: HW:strangest opening acts (was OFF: Quarkspace et al.) Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >OK, folks, what was the strangest opening act you've seen for Hawkwind? My >vote would have to go to either >A. Sex Kittens or >B. the Limelight Cage Dancer... The Limelight Cage Dancer was great - not only because it reminded me of my previous girlfriend at the time who was a dancer at a go-go bar, but because it harkened back to the anarchy of the old days I suppose. I thought Braindance were awful, Finally Balanced were pretty good (anyone have a full list of opening bands from the Limelight 95 show??) A local act called Diamond Dogs opened up for Hawkwind when they played Oslo in '91, I remember them playing an outstanding version of "2000 Lightyears From Home". Those are the only times I've seen 'em, they ought to play Oslo again as they've played in Norway only twice - Bergen 1974 and Oslo 1991. Chr. NP: an unidentified Germs/Bad Brains cassette From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Jun 15 13:21:45 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:21:45 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: What's happening?? Message-ID: No Insult is intended, just trying to make light of the situtuation with good natured humor. Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 3:52 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Re: What's happening?? > > There seem to be Killjoys amongst our happy family - They need to > > take their > > seditives and Exlax, get mellow and regular, then learn to appreciate and > > enjoy the special brand of humor of all the colorful characters of this > > website. > > Steve the Moonman > > OK. Enough with the insults. > > Everything you post here goes to several hundred people. Some of them are > at work, some run their own businesses. > > I've made close personal friends of several people on the list. I've been > part of this happy family since 1994. > > This does not mean I want my inbox full of 50 messages of bullshit every > day. > > If you want to flirt, take it off list. That's what I've always done. > > Once more, IT'S NOT A FUCKING CHAT ROOM. > > And don't quote the ENTIRE FUCKING MESSAGE every time. > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Fri Jun 15 14:16:33 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:16:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Legalise Cannabis gig Message-ID: I asked the question when the band were on the IRC channel. They said they're not playing there. Moonglum PS you still looking for a copy of the Holy Book? You can borrow mine... ----- Original Message ----- > So are HW playing or not? No details on the link. Makes a big difference > as to whether we go or down... > > --- > Kevin Perry > Sonic Energy Authority > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jun 15 14:45:30 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:45:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Legalise Cannabis gig Message-ID: Bollocks I think is the phrase. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Moonglum To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: Re: HW: Legalise Cannabis gig > I asked the question when the band were on the IRC channel. They said > they're not playing there. > > Moonglum > > PS you still looking for a copy of the Holy Book? You can borrow mine... > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > So are HW playing or not? No details on the link. Makes a big difference > > as to whether we go or down... > > > > --- > > Kevin Perry > > Sonic Energy Authority > > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Jun 15 15:13:59 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:13:59 +0100 Subject: HW Line-up Message-ID: Alan and Simon should be there, Harvey and Tim will not. ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Pearson To: Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: Re: HW Line-up > On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:15:03 +0100, Captain Bl at ck > wrote: > >Expect to see the usual crew plus Huw ... > > (Not that I'll be there :^(, but ...) Does "the usual crew" include Alan, > Harvey and/or Simon, since they've played most of the last few shows, > despite not currently being among the "official" members (DB/JR/RT/KK/RC)? > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Fri Jun 15 17:13:20 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:13:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Legalise Cannabis gig Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:23:41 +0100, Kevin Perry wrote: >So are HW playing or not? No details on the link. Makes a big difference >as to whether we go or down... > I don't think Hawkwind are playing at Brockwell Park tomorrow, but I might go down anyway. Regards, Alastair. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jun 15 18:13:43 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:13:43 +0100 Subject: HW:strangest opening acts (was OFF: Quarkspace et al.) Message-ID: .............and they will again, one day - believe me!!!! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warren" To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:55 PM Subject: Re: HW:strangest opening acts (was OFF: Quarkspace et al.) > I saw K-REL as support and while not strange they were the biggest bunch of > Space Pirates I've ever seen ;-) They played Better than Hawkwind that > night. > > Rich W From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jun 15 18:31:21 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:31:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury Sound Festival Message-ID: The Canterbury Sound Festival Web page http://www.canterburyfestival.com/ is looking interesting and there are brief biographies for each band - which is unusual (I've added the Hawkwind one below!) There is definitely no camping on site but there are accommodation web page links. So. All that's needed now is guaranteed warm weather and sunshine, though I would settle for warm weather. Surely by August........ jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- HAWKWIND -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Hawkwind are perhaps one of the best loved of the British bands to emerge in the late sixties. Although subject to numerous line-up changes, the band are still led by their visionary Dave Brock and they have been enthralling audiences for more than a quarter of a century with their psychedelic visions and can truly be hailed as the inventors of "Space Rock". Beginning with their self-titled debut album in 1970, Hawkwind released a series of classic albums throughout the decade; "X In Search of Space", "Do Re Mi Fasol Latido", "Space Ritual", "Hall of the Mountain Grill", "Warrior on the Edge of Time", "Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music", "Quark Strangeness and Charm" and "PXR 5". In 1972 the band scored with a huge international hit single, "Silver Machine", before embarking on the ambitious "Space Ritual" tour with a line-up featuring poet Robert Calvert and Lemmy. The eighties saw further chart success with albums such as "Live 79", "Levitation" (featuring Ginger Baker on drums), "Sonic Attack", "Church of Hawkwind", "Chronicle of the Black Sword", "Live Chronicles" and "Xenon Codex" and the band reached a new audience with the emergence of ambient acts such as The Orb acknowledging Hawkwind's influence. The band performed through the nineties with album releases such as "Space Bandits", "Palace Springs", "Electric Teepee", "It Is The Business of the Future to be Dangerous", "The Business Trip", "Alien 4", "Love in Space" and "Distant Horizons". Last year saw the band stage the highly successful "Hawkestra" event at Brixton Academy which saw many past members reunited on stage for one of the most memorable concerts ever staged in the history of the group. With a nucleus of Dave Brock, Ron Tree, Jerry Richards and Richard Chadwick, it is with great pleasure that The Canterbury Sound Festival welcomes Hawkwind. Further information on Hawkwind can be found at: www.hawkwind.com www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Fri Jun 15 18:50:12 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:50:12 -0700 Subject: HW label blues... Message-ID: So, while reading the Canterbuty Hawks bio I was suddenly hit by a shower of quarks, causing a strange thought. The trouble the Hawks have with record labels is legendary, with the label either flaking out and/or ripping the band off. So, said the strangeness, perhaps The Captain & crew should approach the illustrious Robert Fripp and align themselves with his Discipline Global Mobile label. DGM are fervently protective of the rights of the artist, which is something the Hawks truly need and have excellent distribution throughout the world. Besides, perhaps some interesting cross-fertilization with others on the label could occur? The possibilities are boggling..... scorch From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jun 15 17:42:26 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:42:26 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: Igra Staklenih Perli Message-ID: Hi Folks... I apologize in advance to those who use the HW: prefix since there's nothing specifically Hawkwind about this post. But I thought I'd give everyone the opportunity to join in, and anyway if you like HW, you should *really* like this band. :) OK, I started the ISP thread about 6 weeks ago, when I knew absolutely nothing about the group, and found no commercial CD's in the marketplace to purchase. Luckily, boc-l'er Karen K. rummaged up a hastily done crackly vinyl transfer of their first S/T LP (1978) that I immediately fell in love with! It's very spaced-out krautrockish stuff, along the lines of Floating/Inside-era Eloy with a bit more lysergic touch (a la Saucerful of Secrets) I'd say. The band is/was Jugoslavian, and recorded two studio albums (the second in 1980), and then three archive releases were put out on an obscure German vinyl label around 1990-92. Since getting the subpar vinyl transfer of the s/t, I've since obtained the now rare Germanofon (i.e., unofficial boot) CD release that is a far superior vinyl transfer (though hardly up to top standards I'm guessing). I think I related the story of why it's only 28 minutes long (apparently the studio engineers misplaced two of the master tapes before the album was released). Anyway, so I also recently got (awesome luck) one of the three vinyl releases (seemingly mint/unplayed), a live recording (titled Soft Explosion Live) from the same period (1978) as the self-titled release. (Oh, BTW, word is that the 1980 release isn't nearly so good as this stuff.) And it has six tracks, the two on side one I'm guessing may have been the same songs as the two lost (?). The sound is remarkably good considering it was just a friend of the band taping it with a handheld or something. So anyway, again with the assistance of Karen K. (and her brother) this album has been converted to CD-R (only indexed as a single track, but you'll get over it), and so now I have clean copies of both albums, neither of which exist in the current marketplace. *So*, because I can burn both onto a single CD-R (28 + 42 minutes = 70), I thought I might offer to begin a tree of this stuff. Because this stuff *REALLY* needs to be heard by a larger audience...it's really outstanding. I'm hoping that communication amongst us will lead to somebody important getting around to an official rerelease on CD. So, I've never started one of these things, but I'm guessing it's not too hard. Those interested should just send me (via personal e-mail) their details (s- and e-mail addy's), whether they can burn and are willing to be a 'branch' (and for how many other folks), and then I'll work out a plan. Branches and leaves can work amongst themselves to determine if blank + postage is ok or if trades want to transpire. I'll do the same with those who are the branches. I'll try to put the Euro's together and the 'Australasians' together to make it easier. I don't know how to deal with artwork. I have cover and back-insert card scans for the Soft Explosion Live album alone, and I can scan the graphics from the s/t one as well. If someone offers to web-host these images for everyone to snag and print themselves, that would be cool. Then you all can do whatever you like...I'd really rather not make two-CDR sets to make the graphics issue more simple. I figure if you really want to, those with burners could split them up themselves if they so desired. OK, who wants in? Grakkl (FAA) henderson.120 at osu.edu P.S. Igra Staklenih Perli translates to The Game of Glass Pearls, which I believe is the title of a Hermann Hesse novel. Correct me if I'm wrong. From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jun 15 19:10:04 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:10:04 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: Igra Staklenih Perli Message-ID: > P.S. Igra Staklenih Perli translates to The Game of Glass Pearls, which I > believe is the title of a Hermann Hesse novel. Correct me if I'm wrong. Known (in translation) as "The Glass Bead Game" actually "Das Glasperlenspiel" and, yes, it's time I read it again (although Hesse has a most irritating lecturing style). thanks for the reminder! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jun 16 02:28:06 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:28:06 +0100 Subject: HW:Xmas Party Message-ID: When I spoke to Alan at a Bedouin gig not so long ago he said that the Astoria recording was not up to scratch for release. He did say that there was quality video footage which they were hoping to do something with by synching it with recordings from the recent mini-tour. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 4:04 PM Subject: HW:Xmas Party > Does anyone know the current status of the Astoria CD? > i.e is it going to get released? > > Keef From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Sat Jun 16 04:43:25 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:43:25 +0100 Subject: HW: irc channel Message-ID: My version of instructions for getting onto IRC. Someone else has actually used these and succeeded so I feel justified in posting them :-) 1. Download the MIRC32 client from http://www.mirc.com 2. Install the client 3. Go online via your usual (dial-up) connection 4. Start MIRC32 (from desktop icon, programs menu or command line) 5. When the stupid author's info dialog box comes up, click the 'x' icon in the top right hand corner to get rid of it 6. In mIRC options dialog box, set IRC Servers to DALnet 7. In 2nd drop-down field select DALnet: EU, UK, London, or whatever's geographically closest to you (this is just a list of servers for the previous selection) 8. Complete the name fields. Make sure you give yourself a decent nickname & alternative otherwise you end up appearing as guest5463734 or something. Some nicknames are already registered, try alternative spellings if the one you want isn't available. 9. From the menu select File;Connect 10. In mIRC Channels dialog box type in #Hawkwind.org.uk (it doesn't appear in the list of channels) 11. Click on the Join button 12. A new window opens & you're there Having said all this, mIRC is a crap client (look at the number of times you have to click things and select things and type things before you can get on) and Rik, the Mission Control webmaster, is putting together an IRC client which will take you straight into #hawkwind.org.uk. When that's available it will be much better. Minor facts about using (m)IRC: ------------------------------------------- Sometimes the #hawkwind.org.uk window opens and doesn't look right. Wait for a minute or 2 and it should refresh with the Chanserv header information, which gives you the message "\'\'elcome to Mission Control" Sometimes it's difficult to connect. The mIRC client will keep retrying for you, you will eventually get in. Also, IRC just seems to crap out on you sometimes for no apparent reason. All you can do is reconnect. Every 20 or so uses, a message comes up about using an unregistered copy, your browser is invoked and you are taken to www.mirc.com so you can register and pay the author $20. I wouldn't recommend to anyone that they should register or pay, due to the poor user interface of mIRC. You can just close the browser and carry on with the mIRC client....;>) Hope to see you there Moonglum ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Jarrett To: Sent: 13 June 2001 03:14 Subject: Re: HW: irc channel > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, M Holmes wrote: > > > Could someone post an idiot's step by step, guide on how to do this for > > those of us who wouldn't know a chatroom from the inside of the Tardis? > > Maybe. Try this. > > (1) Locate and install an IRC client. I'm using the one Rik recommended, > mIRC, which I think is free to download at but > I may remember wrong. It runs under Windows and is 16-bit or > Win32s-capable, I don't know which. If it goes on my machine no-one else > should have a problem with it. > > (2) configure the various user options, especially the nickname; mIRC > seems to have fairly sensible defaults but some things it obviously needs > to know. > > (3) dial up, if you do, and connect to an IRC server; mIRC gives you a > lists, several of which selected a random server on a particular > network. I use "Random EU DALnet server" and that works for me. > > (3) when it connects to the server, add the channel #hawkwind.org.uk to > the list you get given, and click join once it's listed. > > (4) type as you would on a talker: conventions include using ; as a > prefix to emoting, so that typing "this is pants compared to > Usenet" (quotes mine) gets you, e.g. "fofp `this is pants compared to > Usenet" in the channel window, but ";thinks this is pants compared to > Usenet" gets you "fofp thinks this is pants compared to Usenet". > > (5) this is what makes AOL and WebTV great remember; how hard can it be? > > > Us old-timers use usenet doncha know. > > Not anywhere I do you don't... Yours, > Jon > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 16 05:37:14 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:07:14 +0930 Subject: potential name change may be imminent HwAnarchy Hawkwind Anarchists Message-ID: Hi good people A short note from the HwAnarchy Co-Moderator (hope its not to long but worth a read) I know this will get to BOC/Hawkwind but unsure about Hawkwind at yahoogroups as quite a few similar related emails from days ago up till now have vanished? anyway We are in the process of organising a poll in favour of a name change to accomadate the wishes of some members of other groups We are not trying to destroy other groups - merely accomadate the more outrageous members need for madness! In a fun way. Oh yeah - we only moderate things such as Porn - and sicko sites such as child perverts and (SICK STUFF)) Of course sick stuff is open to personal interpretation - which is why we will be open to member input - voting and polls etc We certainly won't moderate a member without sincere and severely good cause While im on that - we've only been open a couple of days - barely - (so I don't see how anyone could be so sensitive as the one mentioned below.) Tim somebody or other - man that was a weird email? What drugs are you on man? mine are tame in comparrison - you can KEEP them - I never want what you are on hombrey!! YIKES! You must be really sensitive to want to quit after one day - I have seen the mail so whats the problem. If you feel a need for a change in HwAnarchy TALK to us about it Don't bad mouth us and use false accusations in other forums - Several members here have tried to present our good intentions on Hawkwind group but none have seen the light of day - What can we do? As I stated in a mail recently to Hawkwind groups (that got lost in the system?) We will use our group ((HwAnarchy)) for long winded - looney mail - thereby freeing up the other two groups for serious 100% Hawkwind input We would like to feel we are still welcome in the groups (BOC & HWYahoo) as you are all welcome with us - anytime. Any comments or feelings from readers of this mail will be welcomed anytime So there it is. Let Peace reign supreme Very Sincerely Michael B HwAnarchy Co-Moderator * From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jun 16 08:08:06 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:08:06 EDT Subject: potential name change may be imminent HwAnarchy Hawkwind Anarchists Message-ID: the delete-o-matic was wearing down...oy... ....quit after about 6 hrs, first day. dont miss me all at once. "<>" From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat Jun 16 09:35:58 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:35:58 -0400 Subject: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) In-Reply-To: <200105252142.RAA26663@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: :)>>-----Original Message----- :)>>From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :)>>Behalf Of Rik Rx :)>>Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 5:43 PM :)>>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :)>>Subject: Re: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) :)>> :)>> :)>>Weird #6 appears to be in stock here.... :)>> :)>>https://secure.wsa.u-net.com/www.cow.co.uk/scripts/blue.cgi :)>> :)>>change the search criteria to 1000 items :)>> :)>>Rx :)>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dear Michael S Habiby, This is a status update on your recent order, number 101052714. HAWKWIND - WEIRD TAPES 6 LIVE 1970-73 UNI-HAWKVP11CD CD 10.49 CNCL 12/06/2001 Key to item status CNCL = it was cancelled. WEIRD TAPES 6 LIVE 1970-73: This item has still not been released. There are problems with the master tapes which has meant that the release date has been indefinitely postponed. We are therefore cancelling this order. We will notify you when we hear of a definite date for release. Your credit card is only debited when items are SENT, and these debits will appear as C.O.W. Mail Order on your credit card statement. Your order is now completed, thank you. Please visit us again. Regards, C.O.W. From jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE Sat Jun 16 10:34:23 2001 From: jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE (jc) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:34:23 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: Igra Staklenih Perli In-Reply-To: <200106152255.SAA15179@mail5.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Hi there! You are right, Igra Staklenih Perli is a fantastic band! A German label called Kalemegdan Disk reissued their 3 vynils (i believe they only released two by the time but kalemegdan found some additional recordings) : soft live explosion, ISD drives and Inner Flow. I've got all of them if it can help Herman Hesse 's book is called the Glass Bead Game. Cheers jean From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Jun 16 17:55:33 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:55:33 -0600 Subject: potential name change may be imminent HwAnarchy Hawkwind Anarchists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: well, here's my miss you...... m From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 16 17:02:14 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 06:32:14 +0930 Subject: potential name change may be imminent HwAnarchy Hawkwind Anarchists Message-ID: huh? whadya mean bro? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:25 AM Subject: Re: potential name change may be imminent HwAnarchy Hawkwind Anarchists > well, > > here's my miss you...... > > m > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Jun 16 18:02:20 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:02:20 -0600 Subject: potential name change may be imminent HwAnarchy Hawkwind Anarchists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Bocl.. VERY SORRY,,,hangover,,,,,the "miss you" to Larry was supposed to be private... I made da boobie.... I'm sorry I cant think of any HW info that I am good for at moment..... mc JD if you are seeing this....be in touch shortly..... From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jun 16 17:26:35 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:26:35 EDT Subject: potential name change may be imminent HwAnarchy Hawkwind Anarchists Message-ID: In a message dated 6/16/01 5:00:08 PM, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: << "miss you" to L*rry >> aw, shucks, 'twerent nothin' === boc-l, in persistence. sorta.... "<>" From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Jun 16 19:11:42 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:11:42 -0400 Subject: HW: IRC FILE ON MC Message-ID: ATTENTION ALL LIFEFORMS:::::::::::::::: Some people had problems connectinfg to the IRC channel / setting up a client; so, A customised HW IRC Program is now available on Mission Control Once downloaded and run, it sets itself up by asking a few basic questions. Please answer all the questions, even if you enter rubbish as the answers. We have put in loads of new helpfiles, but once it has set itself up, all you will ever need to do to get on the channel is to open the program and click on the little lightning flash on the top left. Things to note: When you hit the connect button (lightning flash) it may take up to 30 seconds to connect to a server and launch the channel. Please be patient, the program has been set to do everything for you. You can reset the program to put in new user details at any time by entering /setup in any window. Please read all the helpfiles that are available in any window by right clicking and choosing a topic. This is a WINDOWS version - others will follow soon ! :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Have fun in cyberspace !! From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Jun 16 21:14:43 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:14:43 -0400 Subject: OFF: New A-I.com radio shows...Kozmik Ken Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Aural Innovations Radio has just uploaded two new shows in streaming RealAudio. (You can also download them if you prefer.) Aural Innovations is an online web-zine covering all forms of spacerock, psychedelia, electronica, and more eclectic forms of jazz and progressive rock. Our web site is LOADED with reviews, interviews, and articles. Announcement (June 16, 2001): We are pleased to welcome the Kozmik Ken Experience to Aural Innovations radio. Welcome Ken! Also, Aural Innovations radio continues to evolve thanks to listener feedback. We have discovered the means to increase the sound quality of our low bandwidth shows without an increase in file size. This means we've gone back to one version of the show. The new shows may not be a crisp as the high quality shows we've been uploading, but they're LIGHTYEARS ahead of the low quality shows. Not having to upload the enourmous files we were for the past few shows removes a huge burden. (Thanks David!!!) Let us know what you think. Here are the playlists for the new radio shows: The Kozmik Ken Experience Paradogs - ?Nile? (from Paradogs) Tidal Flood - ?Hellum? (from 7 Tide demo) Ozric Tentacles - ?Pyramidion? (from Pyramidion) Paupers - ?South Down The Road? (from Ellis Island/Magic People) Census Of Hallucinations - ?Manifest Your Magick? (from The 4th Dimension) Vibravoid - ?Ballspeaker? (from Vibravoid) Aunt Mary - ?Stumblin? Stone? (from The Best Of Aunt Mary) Please - ?The Road? (from Seeing Stars) Korai ?r?m - ?Track Four? (from Korai ?r?m) Chicken Bones - ?Water? (from Hardrock In Concert) Alien Planetscapes - ?Love Shack Radio? (from Life On Earth) Aural Innovations Radio (Show #28) Krypt?sthesie - ?An Evening Following A Cuttle-Fish? (from Inner Whirl) Dr. Rajah Von Zeetar - ?Burning Flame? (from Mp3.com site) Relativity Machine - ?Ganesh? (from Mp3.com site) F/i - ?Quantum Foam? (from Fluorescent Tunnelvision) Joshua Charles - ?The Start? (from A Positive Flow: The Start Of J.C. Bosco) JFK Jr Royal Airforce - ?Ridicule? (from Ridicule EP) Bevis Frond - ?Temple Falls? (from Vavona Burr) Pharoah Overlord - ?Landslide Non Stop? (from s/t) Rick Ray - ?Bomb Day? (from Abnormal Road) Loons In The Monastery - ?I-Spy? (from Stranger Than Truth: Live Recordings 1999) The Echo Orbiter - ?She Seldomly Joked? (from Laughing All The While) Cyrille Verdeaux - ?Moraga Hall? (from Journey To Tantraland) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. http://Aural-Innovations.com From novadrive at HOME.COM Sun Jun 17 04:03:02 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:03:02 -0700 Subject: OFF: FW: you must first be verry veryy fuzzie then turn up the audio before you click on this link! Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: JoshuaTree [mailto:joshuatree at pangeatech.com] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:42 AM To: Kevin Sommers Subject: you must first be verry veryy fuzzie then turn up the audio before you click on this link! http://www.once-upon-a-forest.com/ From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Sun Jun 17 08:14:39 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:14:39 +0100 Subject: HW: IRC FILE ON MC Message-ID: I've tried it. It's excellent. 4mb download but well worth it....it allows Rik to insult you far more graphically while you're on IRC! Moonglum ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Rx To: Sent: 17 June 2001 00:11 Subject: Re: HW: IRC FILE ON MC > ATTENTION ALL LIFEFORMS:::::::::::::::: > > Some people had problems connectinfg to the IRC channel / > setting up a client; so, > > A customised HW IRC Program is now available on Mission Control From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Jun 17 08:48:56 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:18:56 +0930 Subject: HW: IRC FILE ON MC Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Moonglum To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 9:44 PM Subject: Re: HW: IRC FILE ON MC > I've tried it. It's excellent. 4mb download but well worth it....it allows > Rik to insult you far more graphically while you're on IRC! > > Moonglum > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rik Rx > To: > Sent: 17 June 2001 00:11 > Subject: Re: HW: IRC FILE ON MC > > > > ATTENTION ALL LIFEFORMS:::::::::::::::: > > > > Some people had problems connectinfg to the IRC channel / > > setting up a client; so, > > > > A customised HW IRC Program is now available on Mission Control > > From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Jun 17 10:31:42 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:31:42 -0500 Subject: OFF: FW: you must first be verry veryy fuzzie then turn up theaudio before you click on this link! Message-ID: Thanks for sending this! BOC-Lers . . . check it out if you haven't already. This site should win an award if it hasn't already. Found this comment by the author in the code comments: "Did your world exist from the beginning, or was it somehow created by the very act of thinking about it ? The question may well be meaningless; time may be an illusion, and reality may require no more than belief to give it substance. Somewhere, somehow, every possible event or combination of events has taken place. Every alternate history ever imagined, every world of illusion ever dreamed of, all, all have concrete reality, somewhere." Maruto : Celestial Architect Kevin Sommers wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: JoshuaTree [mailto:joshuatree at pangeatech.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:42 AM > To: Kevin Sommers > Subject: you must first be verry veryy fuzzie then turn up the audio before > you click on this link! > > http://www.once-upon-a-forest.com/ From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jun 17 11:48:30 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:48:30 -0000 Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind Message-ID: stonehenge 1984 ,the giant bee chasing the racing cars at the base of the stage ,now that turned me on to a hawkwind trip .besides that do ray me workes well. >From: Rat On A Stick >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Chronicles Of The Black Bong Hawkwind >Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:05:16 +0930 > >Hey Hawkpersons > >Which Hawkwind song(s) reeled you in, captured your imagination and turned >you on to the whole trip??? and why? > >For me I think it was: The Fifth Second of Forever & Dust Of Time on the >Levitation album > >because of the beautiful acoustic section with the sfx and those trippy >synthi swirly sounds that so gracefully changed to an excellent space rock >number >then back to acoustic then back to space rock etc > >Incredible _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jun 17 13:02:54 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:02:54 -0000 Subject: HW/MOTORHEAD Message-ID: moterhead was best done by hawkwind,lemmys starts with just in case ,lemmy also joind with those wires lost jonny ,was or is somebody else ,but then we are probably just the figment of somebodys immagination.ker. >From: Doug Pearson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW/MOTORHEAD >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:27:52 -0400 > >On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:38:32 -0500, Tony Still Comes Around on the Downbeat > wrote: > >I'm meaning to get around to it one of these days... I've > >always thought "Motorhead" would be great as a bluegrass > >jam. > >Thanks for reminding me! Yeah, the Bad Livers have done a bluegrass-ish >version of, I think, "Ace of Spades"? Some Lemmy/Motorhead song, >anyway ... sounded pretty cool when I heard it at KFJC several years ago >... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jun 17 13:18:02 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:18:02 -0000 Subject: BOC: PROGRESSIVE WORLD: Blue Öyster Cult - Curse Of The Hidden Mirror Message-ID: blue oyster cult was better in the days of dont fear the reaper and black blade from . >From: Karen Kusic >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: BOC: PROGRESSIVE WORLD: Blue ?yster Cult - Curse Of >The Hidden Mirror >Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:50:16 -0500 > >http://www.progressiveworld.net/boc.html > >Reviewed by: RIPZ, June 2001 > > Blue ?yster Cult makes no excuses for doing the Classic Rock thing. > While Curse Of The Hidden Mirror doesn't contain really "classic" BOC > songs like "Don't Fear The Reaper" or "Astronomy," it is a certain > degree better than their comeback CD, the patchy Heaven Forbid. The > new one is a bit more lightweight than Heaven Forbid and those > looking for 70s style hard rock might be disappointed. What does make > Curse Of The Hidden Mirror a novelty is how good the band > (represented by the creative core of the original band) can do their >70s > sound so well, singing included. Usually the singer's pipes are the >first > thing to go. > > I used to be a fan of BOC. I've seen them open for T Rex way back > when Bolan was as plump as Lesley (Mountain) West. What was > interesting about the early BOC - their sensuous exploration of the > esoteric - was missing in the 80s and also in their last CD. It's nice >to > have them back, but where are the mystical meandering of great > albums like Secret Treaties and Spectres? Where's that absolute > brilliance of tracks like "Don't Fear The Reaper" and "I Love The > Night"? > > About the only song that comes close to being a classic is track 8, >"Out > Of The Darkness". Most of the rest of the material is typical AOR, > neither great, nor bad. The last half of the album has a smoother, less > riff oriented feel. Though the keys are underplayed most of the time, > track ten "Eye Of The Hurricane" has some effective synth work and > great Hammond. > > As far as rocking, BOC doesn't have the jams to do the metal thing > now. There's just so much great stuff out there from fresher younger > bands. But Lanier, Bloom and company have the experience of life > (and death); one expects some really mature things from them. > > Why is Classic Rock important in the Prog arena? Because in a way, > Prog evolved from that Classic Rock sound. BOC, Tull, Ash, Heep, > Cooper, Deep Purple all straddled both venues; some leaning and > evolving away from prog, others more into it. In a sense, the two were > like twins separated at birth. One went onto bigger, more complex and > better things, eventually to become an underground obsession (Prog), > and the other (Classic Rock), died a slow and painful death, only to > survive in the minds of those who remember the glory days. > > I applaud BOC for waving the Classic Rock banner. But I know they still > can do it better than this. > > More about Curse Of The Hidden Mirror: > > Track Listing: Dance on Stilts / Showtime / The Old Gods Return / > Pocket / One Step Ahead Of The Devil / I Just Like To Be Bad / Here > Comes That Feeling / Out Of The Darkness / Stone Of Love / Eye of the > Hurricane / Good to Feel Hungry > > Musicians: > Eric Bloom - vocals, guitars and keyboards > Buck Dharma - vocals, guitars and keyboards > Allen Lanier - guitars and keyboards > Danny Miranda - bass, vocals and keyboards > Bobby Rondinelli - Drums > > Contact: > > Website: www.blue?ystercult.com > Note: will open new browser window > > Email: webmaster at blue?ystercult.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jun 17 13:29:43 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:29:43 -0000 Subject: OFF: FW: you must first be verry veryy fuzzie then turn up theaudio before you click on this link! Message-ID: funzie is next to fettler next to fetler a lost ISE GOT a MAP as atlas has the world on his shoulders. >From: Karen Kusic >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: OFF: FW: you must first be verry veryy fuzzie then turn up > theaudio before you click on this link! >Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:31:42 -0500 > >Thanks for sending this! > >BOC-Lers . . . check it out if you haven't already. > >This site should win an award if it hasn't already. > >Found this comment by the author in the code comments: > >"Did your world exist from the beginning, or was it somehow created by >the very act of thinking about it ? The question may well be >meaningless; time may be an illusion, and reality may require no more >than belief to give it substance. > >Somewhere, somehow, every possible event or combination of events has >taken place. Every alternate history ever imagined, every world of >illusion ever dreamed of, all, all have concrete reality, somewhere." > >Maruto : Celestial Architect > > >Kevin Sommers wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JoshuaTree [mailto:joshuatree at pangeatech.com] > > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 12:42 AM > > To: Kevin Sommers > > Subject: you must first be verry veryy fuzzie then turn up the audio >before > > you click on this link! > > > > http://www.once-upon-a-forest.com/ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jun 17 15:42:01 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:42:01 +0100 Subject: HW, NIK: streaming spacerock In-Reply-To: <3B2377E4.B2FF18B1@execpc.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Karen Kusic wrote: > Got this message from the e-prog mailing list. > Looks like some good stuff! And somewhere in that stuff is this: > ps: I haven't prepared a printed playlist for the second of these > links, but the first is as follows: > (format is Track/Artist/Album/Time) > > Assault & Battery/The Golden Void - Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of > Time - 10:10 - > Eternal Guidance - Ship Of Fools - Out There Somewhere - 6:40 - > Revolve - 7% Solution - All About Satellites And Spaceships - 7:07 - > Eternal Wheel - Ozric Tentacles - Erpland - 8:20 -The Circle - > Quarkspace - Deepest Trips - 7:00 - Stonehenge. Nik Turner - > Mysterious Encounters - 7:37 - This one here. What the blazes is this, anyone know? I'm guessing the Cleopatra `Stonehenge Decoded' from a comp. but I'd rather be right than plausible. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jun 17 15:50:43 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:50:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree at Shepherd's Bush Empire In-Reply-To: <014901c0f207$bd23b260$b79cbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > Flamin' well better be - I thought LS was too weak and insipid by half (Dave > did most of the review in our catalogue in case anyone was figuring!!!) and > that 'Stupid Dream' walks all over it (I did that one), Daft part is, > Wilson, genius that he is, just won't accept the band for what it is and > keeps striving for some unattainable 'chart' goal. > If you want that, oh great god Wilson, it's either get fashionable or do a > cover version. I've noticed that every PT fan seems to like one but not the other of the two pop albums; as I've said I prefer LS because it seems happier being what it is than the rather overloaded and under-varied SD. But it's just my opinion; I know people who disagree with me diametrically and a few who agree with me. But everyone it seems will be glad to hear them get back to electronischefreakoutmusik such as they are good at. On the other hand, Queens of the Stone Age might be held as an example of the possibility of getting chart exposure without doing over-much to compromise one's authentic rock credentials? Or is _Rated R_ a sell-out too in the critical opinion of those here reading? Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Jun 17 18:25:21 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:25:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) Message-ID: NOT BEEN RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unbelievable..................and these people call themselves retailers.......propped up by money they can't earn.....bizarre. Andy Garibaldi (still the leading voice of Hawkwind Mail Order) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Habiby" To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 2:35 PM Subject: Re: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) > Dear Michael S Habiby, > > This is a status update on your recent order, number 101052714. > > HAWKWIND - WEIRD TAPES 6 LIVE 1970-73 UNI-HAWKVP11CD CD 10.49 CNCL > 12/06/2001 > > Key to item status > CNCL = it was cancelled. > > WEIRD TAPES 6 LIVE 1970-73: This item has still not been released. There > are problems with the master tapes which has meant that the release date > has been indefinitely postponed. We are therefore cancelling this order. > We will notify you when we hear of a definite date for release. > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Jun 17 18:34:34 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:34:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree at Shepherd's Bush Empire Message-ID: far from it - I like the idea of any of these bands attainign commercial success - the more the merrier - I just don't think that it can happen to PT simply because, no matter how hard Wilson and Delerium try to have it otherwise,they are seen by the media as a prog-rock band, and therfore suffer all the commercial pitfalls that such a tag entails - no matter how many singles they put out,they won;t get radio one on their side. However, they may get radio two (for USA readers the equivalent of a semi-serious seventies/eighties station that still also can't get its feet out of the '50's and '60's) to play things but that is far from the minds of labels and group - they want to be 'now' and 'trendy' but as a PT fan, this just won't work for this band. I suppose the same would apply to Hawkwind really. As to Queens, well, since Jo Whiley made a single by them her record of the week,they have been deemed radio friendly. Roll on someone finding Anathema. The power of the UK DJ in all its glory. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 8:50 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Porcupine Tree at Shepherd's Bush Empire > On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > > > Flamin' well better be - I thought LS was too weak and insipid by half (Dave > > did most of the review in our catalogue in case anyone was figuring!!!) and > > that 'Stupid Dream' walks all over it (I did that one), Daft part is, > > Wilson, genius that he is, just won't accept the band for what it is and > > keeps striving for some unattainable 'chart' goal. > > If you want that, oh great god Wilson, it's either get fashionable or do a > > cover version. > > I've noticed that every PT fan seems to like one but not the other > of the two pop albums; as I've said I prefer LS because it seems happier > being what it is than the rather overloaded and under-varied SD. But it's > just my opinion; I know people who disagree with me diametrically and a > few who agree with me. But everyone it seems will be glad to hear them get > back to electronischefreakoutmusik such as they are good at. > > On the other hand, Queens of the Stone Age might be held as an > example of the possibility of getting chart exposure without doing > over-much to compromise one's authentic rock credentials? Or is _Rated R_ > a sell-out too in the critical opinion of those here reading? Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jun 17 18:29:56 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:29:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) Message-ID: Very strange. I've certainly got Wierd 6. However I do not seem to have a copy of Wierd 5 (I think I somehow managed to acquire two 4s instead). Is this still available? jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:25 PM Subject: Re: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) > NOT BEEN RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Unbelievable..................and these people call themselves > retailers.......propped up by money they can't earn.....bizarre. > Andy Garibaldi (still the leading voice of Hawkwind Mail Order) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Habiby" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 2:35 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) > > > > Dear Michael S Habiby, > > > > This is a status update on your recent order, number 101052714. > > > > HAWKWIND - WEIRD TAPES 6 LIVE 1970-73 UNI-HAWKVP11CD CD 10.49 CNCL > > 12/06/2001 > > > > Key to item status > > CNCL = it was cancelled. > > > > WEIRD TAPES 6 LIVE 1970-73: This item has still not been released. There > > are problems with the master tapes which has meant that the release date > > has been indefinitely postponed. We are therefore cancelling this order. > > We will notify you when we hear of a definite date for release. > > > From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Jun 17 18:50:59 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:50:59 -0400 Subject: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) In-Reply-To: <004b01c0f77d$0a22cf40$c21d883e@jds> Message-ID: OK so where CAN I get Weird 6. Gary at artist-shop says he can't get it... Mike in Troy NY :)>>-----Original Message----- :)>>From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :)>>Behalf Of Jill Strobridge :)>>Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 6:30 PM :)>>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :)>>Subject: Re: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) :)>> :)>> :)>>Very strange. I've certainly got Wierd 6. However I do not :)>>seem to have a copy of Wierd 5 (I think I somehow managed to acquire :)>>two 4s instead). Is this still available? :)>> :)>>jill :)>>----------------------------------------------------------------- :)>>Jill Strobridge :)>>----------------------------------------------------------------- :)>> :)>>----- Original Message ----- :)>>From: ANDREW GARIBALDI :)>>To: :)>>Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:25 PM :)>>Subject: Re: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) :)>> :)>> :)>>> NOT BEEN RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)>>> Unbelievable..................and these people call themselves :)>>> retailers.......propped up by money they can't earn.....bizarre. :)>>> Andy Garibaldi (still the leading voice of Hawkwind Mail Order) :)>>> ----- Original Message ----- :)>>> From: "Mike Habiby" :)>>> To: :)>>> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 2:35 PM :)>>> Subject: Re: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) :)>>> :)>>> :)>>> > Dear Michael S Habiby, :)>>> > :)>>> > This is a status update on your recent order, number 101052714. :)>>> > :)>>> > HAWKWIND - WEIRD TAPES 6 LIVE 1970-73 UNI-HAWKVP11CD CD 10.49 :)>>CNCL :)>>> > 12/06/2001 :)>>> > :)>>> > Key to item status :)>>> > CNCL = it was cancelled. :)>>> > :)>>> > WEIRD TAPES 6 LIVE 1970-73: This item has still not been :)>>released. There :)>>> > are problems with the master tapes which has meant that the :)>>release date :)>>> > has been indefinitely postponed. We are therefore cancelling :)>>this order. :)>>> > We will notify you when we hear of a definite date for release. :)>>> > :)>>> :)>> From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Jun 17 19:18:04 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:18:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) Message-ID: yes - still OK - can order one for you for end of week if required. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:29 PM Subject: Re: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) > Very strange. I've certainly got Wierd 6. However I do not > seem to have a copy of Wierd 5 (I think I somehow managed to acquire > two 4s instead). Is this still available? > > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:25 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) > > > > NOT BEEN RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Unbelievable..................and these people call themselves > > retailers.......propped up by money they can't earn.....bizarre. > > Andy Garibaldi (still the leading voice of Hawkwind Mail Order) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Habiby" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 2:35 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) > > > > > > > Dear Michael S Habiby, > > > > > > This is a status update on your recent order, number 101052714. > > > > > > HAWKWIND - WEIRD TAPES 6 LIVE 1970-73 UNI-HAWKVP11CD CD 10.49 > CNCL > > > 12/06/2001 > > > > > > Key to item status > > > CNCL = it was cancelled. > > > > > > WEIRD TAPES 6 LIVE 1970-73: This item has still not been > released. There > > > are problems with the master tapes which has meant that the > release date > > > has been indefinitely postponed. We are therefore cancelling > this order. > > > We will notify you when we hear of a definite date for release. > > > > > From nick at NETPHD.NET Sun Jun 17 20:15:54 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:15:54 -0400 Subject: BOC: I still love it Message-ID: Well, everyone's else's criticisms notwithstanding, I still love "Curse" almost unreservedly. And believe me, I'm not trying to make anyone feel like they should love the album as much as I do, or whatever. I'm just VERY happy with the disc they put out. I like the whole thing, basically. Even the lyrics are palatable. . . at least more so than HF's. Even "She processed words to the dance music station" follows in a kind of corny/funny tradition that the band established years ago. One thing I find interesting though, is that in all the articles I've read about BOC over the last three years, they always refer to Buck, Eric and Allen as the "creative core" of the band, or something to that effect. I guess it's not hard to understand why the band would try to perpetuate that story, given the fact that they're the only ones left. But I would have to think that Al, Joe, Sandy and the often-contemptible Meltzer would have something to say about that. --Nick From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Jun 18 00:40:50 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:40:50 +0100 Subject: BOC: I still love it In-Reply-To: <200106180015.UAA09024@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: > One thing I find interesting though, is that in all the > articles I've read about BOC over the last three years, > they always refer to Buck, Eric and Allen as > the "creative core" of the band, or something to that > effect. I expect that it's a case of lazy journalists just copying from the press release. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK Mon Jun 18 04:28:10 2001 From: pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Peter Wibrew) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:28:10 +0100 Subject: still searching for wierd6 Message-ID: Hiyall I don't know how likely those that still need it are to get it, but Victoria at Voiceprint ( what a Gem) has just pulled one out of the closet for me.......Way to go Victoria....... Wishing you luck in your search All the best Peter From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jun 18 05:59:41 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:59:41 +0100 Subject: Hw: lives! Message-ID: attention! Hawkwind lives only because of one man, Brock. lest ye forget, o sinners, the time of the Hawk is nigh! turn your barbed words into a thousand cheers, and cast the unbelievers into dark oblivion, death to false idols! down with the infedels! let the bottom lippers see the way, for 'tis written that when the gates of hell are upon us, only the righteously stoned shall dance on the graves of the unholy, and the sulkers shall sulk for all eternity. so remember, in the case of chronic attack of the "why can't it be 1972's?", technology so far has no reached the point where the dead r ressurrected, and people who weren't much good in the day, suddenly find new talents to amaze and enthrall us, (unlike the PRESENT DAY HERE AND NOW LINE_UP) So it is , and so shall it be, Hail Eris! A veteran of a thousand Psychic Whores From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jun 18 06:00:46 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:00:46 -0500 Subject: explanation Message-ID: I have a problem. This guy wants to know what HAWKWIND sounds like. I am at a lose for words here. I don't even know where to start. Anyone here who can come up with a brief discription, I would truly appreciate it. THANK YOU in advance!!!! STEPHE From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Jun 18 06:37:45 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:37:45 +0100 Subject: explanation Message-ID: Like every music you've ever liked but all at once in the same place at the same time!!!! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Lindas [mailto:Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM] Sent: 18 June 2001 11:01 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: explanation I have a problem. This guy wants to know what HAWKWIND sounds like. I am at a lose for words here. I don't even know where to start. Anyone here who can come up with a brief discription, I would truly appreciate it. THANK YOU in advance!!!! STEPHE The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 18 06:44:19 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 06:44:19 -0400 Subject: HW:Xmas Party Message-ID: What? Even worse than Glastonbury 90? *grin* From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Jun 18 06:47:16 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:47:16 +0100 Subject: explanation no. 2 Message-ID: Psychedelic/space rock with a splash of reggae/folk/punk/busking........... most importantly the best dance music ever created. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Lindas [mailto:Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM] Sent: 18 June 2001 11:01 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: explanation I have a problem. This guy wants to know what HAWKWIND sounds like. I am at a lose for words here. I don't even know where to start. Anyone here who can come up with a brief discription, I would truly appreciate it. THANK YOU in advance!!!! STEPHE The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jun 18 07:07:42 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:07:42 +0800 Subject: explanation Message-ID: With each new album so much different to the previous release it's a hard one. So I asked my wife and this is what she came up with - bearing in mind, she claims she's had to suffer Hawkwind for 20 years, and while not a diehard fan I've finally started to wear her down. Earlier stuff - Drug induced psychedelic techno - something to listen to at the end of the universe. Newer stuff - interim metal/rock. (She says the newer HW is easier on the ears) Incidentally Hurry on Sundown is one of her favourite 5 all time songs. Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lindas" To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 6:00 PM Subject: explanation > I have a problem. This guy wants to know what HAWKWIND sounds like. I am at > a lose for words here. I don't even know where to start. Anyone here who can > come up with a brief discription, I would truly appreciate it. THANK YOU in > advance!!!! STEPHE > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 18 07:18:18 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:18:18 +0100 Subject: Donnington Rock & Blues: who goes there? Message-ID: Looks like I'll be heading down Friday. Does anyone know what time Hawkwind are playing? It's a long way from here and I'd hate to miss 'em. So are us hawkfans meeting up in the beer tent or whatever? Should we collect mobile numbers to arrange a Conjunction of the Peers? FoFP From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 18 07:31:33 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:31:33 -0400 Subject: HW, NIK: streaming spacerock Message-ID: It is Stonehenge Who Knows? From m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK Mon Jun 18 08:13:02 2001 From: m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK (Merrick Martin French) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:13:02 +0100 Subject: Donnington Rock & Blues: who goes there? Message-ID: dear Donnington fans, well me and Jules are there but we havn't got a mobile so if you see something's that are colourful in the sea of denim and leather its us. (Jill are you going as I normally spot you at these gigs for some reason probable because your not a large beer swilling biker dresssed in denim and leather !! [no offence]) Julie and Merrick French From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon Jun 18 08:39:41 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:39:41 -0400 Subject: I still love it Message-ID: > Subject: BOC: I still love it > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:15:54 -0400 > From: Nick English > > Well, everyone's else's criticisms notwithstanding, I > still love "Curse" almost unreservedly. And believe > me, I'm not trying to make anyone feel like they should > love the album as much as I do, or whatever. I'm just > VERY happy with the disc they put out. I like the > whole thing, basically. Even the lyrics are > palatable. . . at least more so than HF's. My thoughts exactly - this album just "flat out" rocks... :-) > > One thing I find interesting though, is that in all the > > articles I've read about BOC over the last three years, > > they always refer to Buck, Eric and Allen as > > the "creative core" of the band, or something to that > > effect. > > I expect that it's a case of lazy journalists just copying from the press > release. Probably. It's easier for journalists who may have never really had a clue as to the bulk of the band's creative energy back in the 70's - of course, Buck did write all the Top-40 hits so he already had name recognition. But, back in the 70's fans and probably journalists alike knew that the "creative core" was a different group. And of course, it makes for good press to advertise that after 30 years, three-fifths of the band is still intact. And, with "Stone of Love", Meltzer can boast that he's STILL providing lyrics for the band even though that they've had so little to do with him for probably over 20 years? John From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 18 08:49:01 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:49:01 +0100 Subject: Donnington Rock & Blues: who goes there? In-Reply-To: Merrick Martin French's message of Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:13:02 +0100 Message-ID: Merrick Martin French writes: > dear Donnington fans, > > well me and Jules are there but we havn't got a mobile so if you see something's > that are colourful in the sea of denim and leather its us. > > (Jill are you going as I normally spot you at these gigs for some reason > probable because your not a large beer swilling biker dresssed in denim and > leather !! [no offence]) Jill's not going. I'll be there and will almost certainly be the only person with a Woody Creek Tavern baseball cap. FoFP From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jun 18 09:12:43 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:12:43 -0400 Subject: OFF: A-I.com radio Message-ID: Hi Folks... Sorry to burden the list with this, but it looks like Jerry needs some feedback (not literally) to suss out the problem. Grakkl (FAA) His message below.... Hello all, A regular listener has reported that he can't stream or download my new shows (Kozmik Ken and AI #28). My log files have limited info but do indicate several people may be trying several times. Could those of you who do listen to AI radio let me know the results of your streams and/or downloads? This would be most helpful as I'm trying to determine if this my ISP or general internet problems. BIG thanks. Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) Aural Innovations SpaceRock e-zine http://Aural-Innovations.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 18 10:43:02 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:43:02 -0400 Subject: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) Message-ID: Short of begging one from Voiceprint (if they have any left) you cannot any more:(. If you would like a CDR let me know. COLIN From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jun 18 11:15:15 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:15:15 +0100 Subject: HW: lives , it does, honest Message-ID: attention! Breathe no more the voice of dissent! Infedels! all power to the Believers, have faith in the mothership, o doubters of the sacred Hawk, and revel in the sublime noise emanating from sound systems everywhere! wibble no more on the subject of the one true Hawkwind, and dance the dance of tyme, lest ye become the victims of the savage tooth, and no brush in the world of tears (sic) can rid thee of that stain I am the Warrior on the Edge of your minds Be seeing you From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Mon Jun 18 11:21:44 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:21:44 +0100 Subject: BOC: Wows Message-ID: I was trundling around the web in a fit of boredom and found this web page prefixed with this text. Don't know if it's any use to any of you chaps/chapesses. Mark (Hasbeen) http://home.freeuk.net/boydan/tapelist.html I use maxell xl11 or tdk sa tape, real time etc.My main wants are; ROY HARPER (anything, any quality acceptable), AL STEWART, WINGS, GAYE BYKERS ON ACID, POP WILL EAT ITSELF, PSYCHIC TV, THROBBING GRISTLE, HAWKWIND, NICO, BAUHAUS, DAVID J, SOFT CELL, MARC AND THE MAMBAS, LOU REED(`74-80), TWISTED SISTER. MARC BOLAN, DAVID ESSEX, FRANKIE VALLI & FOUR SEASONS, BILL WYMAN, BOWIE(`67-83) JUDAS PRIEST(`74-78), DAVID JOHANSEN, BUSTER POINDEXTER, JOHNNY THUNDERS. IGGY(`77-82), UB40(`79-`82), JOHN COOPER CLARKE, DANNY KORTCHMAR, ALICE COOPER, DEEP PURPLE(`70-`73), THIN LIZZY, PAUL JONES( not blues band-especially early manfreds) m is a master tape.qualitys are r tape.tape quality ratings are subjective, and lengths approximate. Tapes are for swaps with other tapes only-not for sale. 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Message-ID: Dear Hawkwind Cult: (I.E. "Enthusiastic Appreciaters" The following is a post I sent to the YAHOO Hawkwind list.....it is about the listowner Bob Lennon (one of my best friends) and I thought some of you here that are friends to him as well, but not participaters of the Yahoo list may find it of concern. ******************************************************************************** This is a weird time right now..... as I sat here this morning contemplating the lifespan of my friend and his girlfriend,,,,,,, I got this call..... Bob Lennon has been involved in some SERIOUS SERIOUS SERIOUS shit.... he is lucky he and his family are ALIVE!!! that's right........ I was going to tell you people that he lived on a second floor apartment, and if he got flooded, then it's a BAD FLOOD. It has happened before, and he has had to be rescued by boat. This time is MUCH WORSE. It seems there were some REAL FREAKED OUT STORMS going on here in the states............. I didn't want to stick my neck out as I have done in past, but he's OK'd me to tell you his story...... They had 15 feet of water. that was only the beginning. There was an explosion of unknown origin that completely blew up the building next door to him - (8 apartment UNITS) People died. People are still missing. Flames billowed out at Bob's apartment. Bob has lost ALL his furniture, among the usual household things. I asked about his records(couldn't help to).....he lost the first 2 rows of his record collection, but luckily NOT his Hawkwind collection which he keeps up at the topmost shelves...... His CD's of Hawkwind survived. His digital one-of-a kind videos and such are history however. They are investigating the explosion, and the flooding is so bad, no-one is allowed (or can) get in to work on salvaging anything...... I may fly up there if I can to help them when it calms down a bit...... I was thinking maybe some of us might pitch in to help him with furniture, etc., as he has no insurance......... Lucky his wife and child were not there at the time. Bob told me he almost got pulled under the water, and could have drowned. I think he said he grabbed a tree, but I am not certain. Mike Coleman From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 18 13:56:52 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:56:52 +0100 Subject: [Hawkwind] Bob Lennon taked a hiatus... Message-ID: Is that a result of the flooding in Houston or is this elsewhere? I've been watching some of the CNN reports. It looks scarey and sounds as if the water rose with almost no warning. I've also heard that some folk died trapped in cars and the like so I'm glad to hear that Bob's safe. Good luck to you sir. And if there's anything it would be useful to do to help just say! best wishes jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: gman
To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:52 AM Subject: [Hawkwind] Bob Lennon taked a hiatus... > A quick note for a friend, Bob Lennon [hawkwinder at aol.com]: > > His home has been flooded over this past weekend and will most likely > be absent from the list for a short time. Though, knowing him, he'll most > likely > find a computer somewhere and try to keep in touch... > > wish him good luck, > Dave > > > > > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: Hawkwind at onelist.com > Subscribe: Hawkwind-subscribe at onelist.com > Unsubscribe: Hawkwind-unsubscribe at onelist.com > List owner: Hawkwind-owner at onelist.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/Hawkwind > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 18 14:28:56 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:28:56 +0100 Subject: Donnington Rock & Blues: who goes there? Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Merrick Martin French To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Donnington Rock & Blues: who goes there? > (Jill are you going as I normally spot you at these gigs for some reason > probable because your not a large beer swilling biker dresssed in denim and > leather !! [no offence]) With my innocent granny-like appearance as, hunched over, with walking stick clutched in one hand, a glass of beer in the other, peering owl-like through binocular thick glasses, I am doddering my way to the front of the stage muttering in a high pitched whine "I'm sure I heard that Hawkwind are playing here somewhere... " Nope - I can't get to Donnington but am definitely planning trips to Norwich and Canterbury - if the youth rejuvenation process goes well 8-). jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From hw at CY-B.ORG Mon Jun 18 14:35:52 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:35:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Mission Control Updates Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Latest information on Donnington is now on Mission Control Updates/Tour pages.......... www.hawkwind.org.uk PLEASE NOTE WE WILL BE HAVING ANOTHER ONLINE IRC CHAT IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.... DETAILS TO FOLLOW ASAP To be a part of it, get the program now: www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/irc/HW-IRC.zip ++MESSAGE ENDS From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jun 18 13:29:45 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:29:45 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bob Lennon takes a hiatus... Message-ID: Jill asks... >Is that a result of the flooding in Houston or is this elsewhere? Bob lives in Philadelphia. But YES, this is the very same storm, Allison, that has now flooded half the US seemingly. All the way from Houston, through the south to the coast, and most recently eastern PA and probably much of Jersey and the area surrounding the City. It is already the worst (monetarily) non-hurricane tropical storm in the nation's history. Billions of dollars in damage. I did hear about the explosion...amazing that it happened right there in a boc-ler's neighborhood! As an ex-Philadelphia resident, I can only say that hope everyone that I once knew there is ok. Good to hear Bob & his family made it through with only a story to tell, and only replacable items lost. Well, the HW video collection notwithstanding. Grakkl (FAA) From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Mon Jun 18 15:27:17 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:27:17 -0400 Subject: Donnington Rock & Blues: who goes there? Message-ID: Anyone know if you can pay at the gate? I'm still hoping to go. I also see the line up is on Mission Control - No Ron mentioned - just an omission or is he involved with his side projects? Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jun 18 16:13:19 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:13:19 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bob Lennon takes a hiatus... Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:29:45 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >Bob lives in Philadelphia. But YES, this is the very same storm, Allison, >that has now flooded half the US seemingly. All the way from Houston, >through the south to the coast, and most recently eastern PA and probably >much of Jersey and the area surrounding the City. It is already the worst >(monetarily) non-hurricane tropical storm in the nation's history. >Billions of dollars in damage. Man! Poor Bob ... the last time I was in Philadelphia, about 1-1/2 years ago, he had just had his house flooded by a (non-hurricaine) storm! I think he might need to move away from the river ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 18 16:25:20 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:25:20 +0100 Subject: Bob's story Fw: [Hawkwind] floods Message-ID: This just arrived on the Yahoo groups board so I'm forwarding it here as well in case there are those concerned about him who don't get access to that group. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 9:13 PM Subject: [Hawkwind] floods > Hello, > I was typing my last message off to the list about having to go move my cars > away from the coming flood. I got knocked off line cause the phones went down > just as I was clicking the send button. > I am at a friends house right now who let me use the computer. > I'm only on for a few minutes because I have to head back and try to get > inside the police line and attempt to salvage some personal belongings. > I haven't had time to read any emails yet so if you don't hear from me for a > while, I have no place to go for now, and the neighbors place we're staying > at temporarily has no power or phones (or hot water). > we're staying close to the scene to grab the first oportunity to get in and > at least save some clothes to wear. > I was forcibly evacuated saturday night (or early sunday morning) because we > were under water and the building a few yards away exploded and went up into > flames. > they wouldn't let me even put on a pair of shoes so I was walking around > barefeet with muddy pants and a soaked t-shirt until last night. > I saw myself on tv (the next morning at someone's house) hanging out a window > dropping into a rubber rescue boat. > Andy Warhol's 1/15 of a second of fame i guess. > we lost almost everything. all furniture & clothes etc, and thankfully most > cd's are safe several hundred records did go under though. > My son lost all his clothes, toys and video systems/games. Although his > cartoon videotapes survived. So kids out there the lesson to be learned here: > clean your toys off the floor when your done playing. > yesterday I defied the police and rescued my 3 cats and a neighbors cat and > got written up and chastised by them for going behind police lines. > They are treating it as a crime scene until they prove it was an accident, so > we're not able to cross the yellow tape for now. > All my shit is sitting in water and growing spores or something. > we are all safe and eating. I took a nice cold shower last night so I'm now > not covered in sewage water. > I had no idea when I'd get a chance to get online so thanks to Mike & Dave > for posting a message for me. > If my computer survived I'll be back on regularly in a few weeks (hopefully) > when we're able to move back in. Until then ...we'll see. > Although I didn't want to do it, my neighbors asked me to video tape the > plight of the elderly people in the next building crying for help while their > building was burning. They insisted because when they called 911, the > operator was rude and not helpful. I think they wanted "evidence" of what 911 > was blowing off. The video is pretty scary and I'm not giving it to the tv > stations, I don't think anyone should see it. > > The fire department coudln't get to the scene because that building was under > 15 foot of water. > several people are still missing and they've found a few bodies that they > can't identify. > One of the 3 buildings is completely gone, the other 2 are burnt down. > > I'll check in the next time I am near a computer. > so long and thanks for all the fish > bob > From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Jun 18 16:35:59 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:35:59 +0100 Subject: Off: Fink Ployd Message-ID: Does anybody on here know of a website that has some good 1970's Pink Floyd concert photos on it? From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Jun 18 17:03:08 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:03:08 -0500 Subject: HW: irc channel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Jon Jarrett wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: irc channel : :On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, M Holmes wrote: : :> Could someone post an idiot's step by step, guide on how to do this for :> those of us who wouldn't know a chatroom from the inside of the Tardis? : : Maybe. Try this. : :(1) Locate and install an IRC client. I'm using the one Rik recommended, :mIRC, which I think is free to download at but :I may remember wrong. It runs under Windows and is 16-bit or :Win32s-capable, I don't know which. If it goes on my machine no-one else :should have a problem with it. Try ircle (www.ircle.com) for macintosh (if you have one of those.) I like ircII (http://www.eterna.com.au/ircii/) for Unix. (my .ircrc for ircII: /server irc.dal.net /nick ArinK /msg nickserv at services.dal.net identify thepasswordhere /join #hawkwind.org.uk pretty easy) The www.dal.net site has a bunch of clients listed: http://www.dal.net/software/index.php3 (There are also assorted java based irc clients, but I don't know if any of them are any good or not.) :(3) dial up, if you do, and connect to an IRC server; mIRC gives you a :lists, several of which selected a random server on a particular :network. I use "Random EU DALnet server" and that works for me. irc.dal.net is a round-robin server, so you might just be able to connect to that. :(3) when it connects to the server, add the channel #hawkwind.org.uk to :the list you get given, and click join once it's listed. : :(4) type as you would on a talker: conventions include using ; as a :prefix to emoting, so that typing "this is pants compared to :Usenet" (quotes mine) gets you, e.g. "fofp `this is pants compared to :Usenet" in the channel window, but ";thinks this is pants compared to :Usenet" gets you "fofp thinks this is pants compared to Usenet". In ircII, use /me to emote, and type normally to talk. :> Us old-timers use usenet doncha know. heh. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Jun 18 17:22:36 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:22:36 -0500 Subject: HW: donnington Message-ID: Hi folks, Something that just came up on irc (#hawkwind.org.uk)... HW donnington appearance is on Friday (not Saturday) Details should be up on MC website.... Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Mon Jun 18 17:05:48 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:05:48 +0200 Subject: Off: Fink Ployd In-Reply-To: <005001c0f836$4e2f0280$d91028d5@starfield> Message-ID: Hi Captain, >Does anybody on here know of a website that has some good 1970's Pink >Floyd concert photos on it? One of the best Floyd-sites I know ist . You can find a lot of pictures in the "band"-section of the site. (c)IAO D+R np: Inner City Unit, "Passout" From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Jun 18 17:35:52 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:35:52 -0500 Subject: HW: official irc band chat Message-ID: Hullo folks, more word from the irc channel at the moment. There will be an official band chat on this upcoming Wednesday at 18:00 GMT. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jun 18 17:40:42 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:40:42 +0100 Subject: Hw: lives! Message-ID: Yes indeed - Hawkwind lives because of Dave for sure but for me one of the most important aspects is Dave's Frank Zappa type role in being able to surround himself with the best musicians for the job at the time while still having a firm hand on the rudder - there are still a lot of musicians along the way without whom Hawkwind simply wouldn't have been the same and while this is in no way to diminish the stature of Dave, is the whole greater than the sum of the parts.............. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Jackson" To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:59 AM Subject: Hw: lives! > attention! Hawkwind lives only because of one man, Brock. lest ye forget, o > sinners, the time of the Hawk is nigh! > turn your barbed words into a thousand cheers, and cast the unbelievers into > dark oblivion, death to false idols! down with the infedels! let the bottom > lippers see the way, for 'tis written that when the gates of hell are upon > us, only the righteously stoned shall dance on the graves of the unholy, and > the sulkers shall sulk for all eternity. > so remember, in the case of chronic attack of the "why can't it be 1972's?", > technology so far has no reached the point where the dead r ressurrected, > and people who weren't much good in the day, suddenly find new talents to > amaze and enthrall us, (unlike the PRESENT DAY HERE AND NOW LINE_UP) > So it is , and so shall it be, Hail Eris! > A veteran of a thousand Psychic Whores From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jun 18 17:44:45 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:44:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) Message-ID: the $64,000 question............... as I said in an e.mail to Blackman this weekend, there's an awful lot of Hawkwind back catalogue now disappearing at a rate of knots....much of it to remain sadly extinct. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Habiby" To: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:50 PM Subject: Re: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) > OK so where CAN I get Weird 6. Gary at artist-shop says he can't get it... > > Mike in Troy NY > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jun 18 17:46:12 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:46:12 +0100 Subject: still searching for wierd6 Message-ID: ah yes......the Voiceprint closet - luckily open to fans but sadly closed to dealers............ Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Wibrew" To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 9:28 AM Subject: still searching for wierd6 > Hiyall > > I don't know how likely those that still need it are to get it, but Victoria > at Voiceprint ( what a Gem) has just pulled one out of the closet for > me.......Way to go Victoria....... > > Wishing you luck in your search > All the best > Peter From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jun 18 17:57:53 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:57:53 -0000 Subject: HW: lives , it does, honest Message-ID: in my mind i am not a warrior on the edg of time,nor was i shot down in the knight,an angel of death and of light :maybe.waiting for tomorrow,hopeing for freedom from that SONIC ATTACK,remembering moterhead,wanting a hash cake,with full knowlidge that church of hawkwind spoke of sector 63 ,with nuclear drive,and those star cannibals,know a lot from that quark strangeness and charm ,want it to hurry on sundown,due to a wind of change ,causing CONFRONTATION,well it a no goat willow,or a lost johnny,who can dissapear in smoke,now is that a brainstorm,causing paronia,or would you say it shouldant do that,well remember D-Rider,paradox,and of course that snake dance,by a secret agent,at l.s.d.,makes me remember DAZED AND CONFUSED by Led Zeppelin... >From: Daniel Jackson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: lives , it does, honest >Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:15:15 +0100 > >attention! Breathe no more the voice of dissent! Infedels! all power to the >Believers, have faith in the mothership, o doubters of the sacred Hawk, and >revel in the sublime noise emanating from sound systems everywhere! >wibble no more on the subject of the one true Hawkwind, and dance the dance >of tyme, lest ye become the victims of the savage tooth, and no brush in >the >world of tears (sic) can rid thee of that stain >I am the Warrior on the Edge of your minds >Be seeing you _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jun 18 18:07:55 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:07:55 +0100 Subject: HW RE:HW lives Message-ID: attention! ah the venerable Mr. G, speaker of truths, supplier of noises sweet, of course there have been many great musicians passing thru the Shade Gates, we at Prozac towers cry! But the sweet horn of ffate decrees that tempus fugit, and it fugits at a fair old pace, i xcan tell you, so hear the clarion cry, and let forth the Hawks of yore, to smite ye mightily smiterly, me old muckers, see u on the dawn of the solstice, grooving to the sound of the mighty Hawk, Space is deep, bleep bleep! The Sailore on ther sea of dates From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jun 18 18:08:33 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:08:33 -0000 Subject: Hw: lives! Message-ID: lest ye forget a paradox did strike dave ,yet at the same time it struck nicdicmicectectect,creating manny a parrelels,possibaly even a whole new parrelel earth. >From: ANDREW GARIBALDI >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Hw: lives! >Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:40:42 +0100 > >Yes indeed - Hawkwind lives because of Dave for sure but for me one of the >most important aspects is Dave's Frank Zappa type role in being able to >surround himself with the best musicians for the job at the time while >still >having a firm hand on the rudder - there are still a lot of musicians along >the way without whom Hawkwind simply wouldn't have been the same and while >this is in no way to diminish the stature of Dave, is the whole greater >than >the sum of the parts.............. >Andy Garibaldi >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel Jackson" >To: >Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:59 AM >Subject: Hw: lives! > > > > attention! Hawkwind lives only because of one man, Brock. lest ye >forget, >o > > sinners, the time of the Hawk is nigh! > > turn your barbed words into a thousand cheers, and cast the unbelievers >into > > dark oblivion, death to false idols! down with the infedels! let the >bottom > > lippers see the way, for 'tis written that when the gates of hell are >upon > > us, only the righteously stoned shall dance on the graves of the unholy, >and > > the sulkers shall sulk for all eternity. > > so remember, in the case of chronic attack of the "why can't it be >1972's?", > > technology so far has no reached the point where the dead r >ressurrected, > > and people who weren't much good in the day, suddenly find new talents >to > > amaze and enthrall us, (unlike the PRESENT DAY HERE AND NOW LINE_UP) > > So it is , and so shall it be, Hail Eris! > > A veteran of a thousand Psychic Whores _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jun 18 18:18:22 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:18:22 -0000 Subject: HW RE:HW lives Message-ID: mite not make stonehendg,but today i ordered the 84 stonehendg video and a cronicle of the black sword dvd and bought antholigy double compilation cd .37 today.hope to make the stones ,hopefully not hitchin. >From: Daniel Jackson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW RE:HW lives >Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:07:55 +0100 > >attention! ah the venerable Mr. G, speaker of truths, supplier of noises >sweet, of course there have been many great musicians passing thru the >Shade >Gates, we at Prozac towers cry! But the sweet horn of ffate decrees that >tempus fugit, and it fugits at a fair old pace, i xcan tell you, so hear >the >clarion cry, and let forth the Hawks of yore, to smite ye mightily >smiterly, >me old muckers, see u on the dawn of the solstice, grooving to the sound of >the mighty Hawk, >Space is deep, bleep bleep! >The Sailore on ther sea of dates _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jun 18 18:21:49 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:21:49 -0000 Subject: HW RE:HW lives Message-ID: >From: Daniel Jackson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW RE:HW lives >Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:07:55 +0100 > >attention! ah the venerable Mr. G, speaker of truths, supplier of noises >sweet, of course there have been many great musicians passing thru the >Shade >Gates, we at Prozac towers cry! But the sweet horn of ffate decrees that >tempus fugit, and it fugits at a fair old pace, i xcan tell you, so hear >the >clarion cry, and let forth the Hawks of yore, to smite ye mightily >smiterly, >me old muckers, see u on the dawn of the solstice, grooving to the sound of >the mighty Hawk, >Space is deep, bleep bleep! >The Sailore on ther sea of dates _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Mon Jun 18 18:34:01 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:34:01 EDT Subject: explanation Message-ID: In a message dated 6/18/01 5:08:29 AM US Eastern Standard Time, Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM writes: > I once described it as "psychedelic heavy jazz." From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Jun 18 18:40:22 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:40:22 +0100 Subject: explanation In-Reply-To: <123.7ac6ad.285fdbd9@aol.com> Message-ID: In article <123.7ac6ad.285fdbd9 at aol.com>, Joe Loehr writes >In a message dated 6/18/01 5:08:29 AM US Eastern Standard Time, >Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM writes: > > >> > >I once described it as "psychedelic heavy jazz." > I always liked Dave Brocks description (On the flicknife interview disc IIRC) 'British tribal rhythms with things shooting off' -- David Blair From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jun 18 19:12:53 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:12:53 -0000 Subject: Hawkdiscs Message-ID: i will by or trade please reply how or where >From: Darrin McKeehen >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Hawkdiscs >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:58:15 -0400 > >Hey Now! > >I have these Hawkdiscs to trade or sell: > >Anthology Vol II - Samurai (CD)039 >DOREMI FASOL LATIDO - One Way Records CDLL 57475 >Levitation - Griffin GCD230-2 >The Hawklords Live - Griffin GN 03921-2 >The Chronicle of The Black Sword - Griffin GCDHA-0142-2 >Live Chronicles - Griffin GCDHA-0136-2 >Palace Springs - RoadRacer RRD 9303 >Electric Tepee - Griffin GN0931-2 >Future Reconstructions - Emergency Broadcast System EBSSCD 117 > >Quark, Strangeness & Charm CD Single - EBCD110 >1) Uncle Sam's on Mars(Red Planet Radio Mix) >2) Quark, Strangeness & Charm >3) Black Sun (9:34 minutes) >4) Uncle Sam's On Mars (Martian Conquest Mix) > >Alan Davey ~ Captured Rotation - Digipak EBSSCD 122 > >Anyone who needs any of the discs above, just send me a note < >hawkwind at medione.net > All are mint. > >I am looking for Farflung: The Raven....and The Belief Module and various >Hawkwind releases. > >Peace, > >Darrin >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Mon Jun 18 19:29:54 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:29:54 -0600 Subject: HW: irc channel Message-ID: My attempt to download the Hawkwind-IRC.zip has stalled and timed out at 66% complete. What do I do now? Oh wait, it is up to 67% now. It has timed out 3 times already. Fortunately, Real download can resume where it left off. Make that 4 times it has timed out. Maybe tomorrow the planetary alignment will be more favorable. Anyone else experiencing any difficulties? TML mlicht at cybermesa.com From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jun 18 20:03:49 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:03:49 +0800 Subject: OFF :Omega Message-ID: Hi Does anyone know anything about the group "Omega?" The album I have is "Time Robber" recorded in 1976 at Europa-sound-Studios in Germany. I was wondering if they released any other material as Omega, or now involved in other projects? Musicians are: Janos Kobor: Lead Vocal/Percussion Laszio Benko: Moog synthesizer/Vocals Tamas Mihaly: Bass/Vocal Gyorgy Moinar: Guitars/12 String Guitar/Acoustic Guitar Ferenc Debreceni: Drums/percussion This is a good album Thanks in advance Bill From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jun 18 20:16:00 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:16:00 +0800 Subject: HW: irc channel Message-ID: Mark wrote: > My attempt to download the Hawkwind-IRC.zip has stalled and timed out at 66% > complete. What do I do now? Oh wait, it is up to 67% now. It has timed > out 3 times already. Fortunately, Real download can resume where it left > off. Make that 4 times it has timed out. Maybe tomorrow the planetary > alignment will be more favorable. Anyone else experiencing any > difficulties? Mine downloaded 100%. After installing and unzipping it I couldn't find it - LOL I had to go into "Search" from the "Start" menu to find it. It's in a folder on its own called HW-IRC. Works fine tho. Cheers Bill From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Mon Jun 18 20:33:53 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:33:53 EDT Subject: Hw: lives! Message-ID: In a message dated 6/18/2001 5:49:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: << attention! Hawkwind lives only because of one man, Brock. lest ye forget, o > sinners, the time of the Hawk is nigh! > turn your barbed words into a thousand cheers, and cast the unbelievers into > dark oblivion, death to false idols! down with the infedels! let the bottom > lippers see the way, for 'tis written that when the gates of hell are upon > us, only the righteously stoned shall dance on the graves of the unholy, and > the sulkers shall sulk for all eternity. > so remember, in the case of chronic attack of the "why can't it be 1972's?", > technology so far has no reached the point where the dead r ressurrected, > and people who weren't much good in the day, suddenly find new talents to > amaze and enthrall us, (unlike the PRESENT DAY HERE AND NOW LINE_UP) > So it is , and so shall it be, Hail Eris! > A veteran of a thousand Psychic Whores I like the cut of your jib!! regards, Bill Stewart From chip at PCC.COM Mon Jun 18 20:35:38 2001 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:35:38 -0400 Subject: BOC: "I Love The Night" MUZAK In-Reply-To: <3A080875.9E2B9D4A@mitre.org> from "John A. Swartz" at Nov 07, 2000 08:49:44 AM Message-ID: I was in a hotel gift shop this weekend waiting to buy some gum when I realized I recognized the little "arpeggio" coming out of the tinny speaker playing Musak. It was "I Love The Night" by Blue Oyster Cult. At first, I didn't believe it. People in the store thought I was weird as I hunted around the walls and ceiling looking for the music source and waited underneath to confirm. Yes, most definitely. "I Love the Night" in Muzak form! The guitarist(s) did a wonderful job on the solo and some great Buck-esque fills at the end. In fact, I'd say the whole damn thing sounded great. It wasn't cheezy, even. Just excellent. Of course, it wasn't quite an ideal listening experience. I'd **LOVE** to get a copy of this. a) Anyone have ANY idea how to track such a thing down? b) Anyone have ANY idea how many other BOC tracks have been Muzak-ed? We know DFTR has been done (and I've heard that). -- Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com Physician's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip 1 Main Street * Work:800-722-7708 Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: 802-846-8178 From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jun 18 20:55:26 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:55:26 +0100 Subject: HW: lives Message-ID: Djsatan, actually, Bill. Andy G was merely adding to the jollitea. More wailings from the depths of oblivion to follow If you wanna get into it, you gotta get out of it I'm an urban guerilla, I make bongs in me cellar From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Mon Jun 18 21:52:24 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:52:24 -0400 Subject: "I Love The Night" MUZAK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Since Muzak is a copywrited thingy try writing them or search the web... Maybe they have a web site. Just my two cents Mike :)>>-----Original Message----- :)>>From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :)>>Behalf Of Chip Hart :)>>Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:36 PM :)>>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :)>>Subject: BOC: "I Love The Night" MUZAK :)>> :)>> :)>> I was in a hotel gift shop this weekend waiting to buy some gum :)>> when I realized I recognized the little "arpeggio" coming out of :)>> the tinny speaker playing Musak. :)>> :)>> It was "I Love The Night" by Blue Oyster Cult. :)>> :)>> At first, I didn't believe it. People in the store thought I :)>> was weird as I hunted around the walls and ceiling looking for :)>> the music source and waited underneath to confirm. Yes, most :)>> definitely. "I Love the Night" in Muzak form! The :)>> guitarist(s) did a wonderful job on the solo and some great :)>> Buck-esque fills at the end. In fact, I'd say the whole damn :)>> thing sounded great. It wasn't cheezy, even. Just excellent. :)>> :)>> Of course, it wasn't quite an ideal listening experience. :)>> :)>> I'd **LOVE** to get a copy of this. :)>> :)>> a) Anyone have ANY idea how to track such a thing down? :)>> b) Anyone have ANY idea how many other BOC tracks have been :)>> Muzak-ed? We know DFTR has been done (and I've heard that). :)>> :)>> :)>>-- :)>>Chip Hart * :)>>chip @ pcc.com :)>>Physician's Computer Company * :)>>http://www.pcc.com/~chip :)>>1 Main Street * :)>>Work:800-722-7708 :)>>Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: :)>>802-846-8178 :)>> From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jun 18 20:59:01 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:59:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: Omega Message-ID: Bill asked... >Does anyone know anything about the group "Omega?" The album I have is "Time >Robber" recorded in 1976 at Europa-sound-Studios in Germany. I was wondering >if they released any other material as Omega, or now involved in other >projects? >Musicians are: > >Janos Kobor: Lead Vocal/Percussion >Laszio Benko: Moog synthesizer/Vocals >Tamas Mihaly: Bass/Vocal >Gyorgy Moinar: Guitars/12 String Guitar/Acoustic Guitar >Ferenc Debreceni: Drums/percussion Yeah, they existed (maybe even still do!?) for many years, and put out lots of albums. I only have one, purchased just recently actually. One of their earliest works, from 1969 or so (entitled "1000 " - can't even remember the title). A Hungarian progressive rock band. I like it well enough, and plan to pick up more in the future. They have a big entry in Jerry Lucky's ProgRock guide (published by CG Publishing, which is essentially Griffin), with a complete discography. I'll check it out tonight if I remember. All I can say is that 'glam-rock' outfits they're wearing in the lone group photo in this book is a total gas! (Just like Angel, K.K.) :) Grakkl (FAA) From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Mon Jun 18 22:30:23 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:30:23 -0400 Subject: OFF :Omega In-Reply-To: <000201c0f853$f0fa8da0$a9a13bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: Yes an Hungarian band. My best buddy from college was of Hungarian descent and had some cousin send him a few LP's from Hungary. Great prog. We collected a few in English and I suppose he still has the Hungarian ones. I have Omega, Time Robber, Sky Rover and Hall of the Floaters of the Sky on Vinyl. All in English. Weird lyrics but they are translated from Hungarian I suppose. Highly recommended. Mike in Troy NY ________________________ `'-.,________,,..- ___ \________ > `'-.,_____,,.-`<_>\ )__ `\ > `'-._ _)____ \ > _.-'` _______ `\ | > _,,..--'''``` `'-.\| >-'`` `' :)>>-----Original Message----- :)>>From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :)>>Behalf Of Bill & Cynthia :)>>Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:04 PM :)>>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :)>>Subject: OFF :Omega :)>> :)>> :)>>Hi :)>> :)>>Does anyone know anything about the group "Omega?" The album I :)>>have is "Time :)>>Robber" recorded in 1976 at Europa-sound-Studios in Germany. I :)>>was wondering :)>>if they released any other material as Omega, or now involved in other :)>>projects? :)>>Musicians are: :)>> :)>>Janos Kobor: Lead Vocal/Percussion :)>>Laszio Benko: Moog synthesizer/Vocals :)>>Tamas Mihaly: Bass/Vocal :)>>Gyorgy Moinar: Guitars/12 String Guitar/Acoustic Guitar :)>>Ferenc Debreceni: Drums/percussion :)>> :)>>This is a good album :)>> :)>>Thanks in advance :)>> :)>>Bill :)>> From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jun 18 21:16:57 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:16:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Igra Staklenih Perli tree Message-ID: Hey Folks... Well, so far, I've only had a mild response (nine definites) to my tree offer and feel that it would make more sense to have at least 20 or so to make it worthwhile. I know hardly any of you have any idea what this group is like, but trust me, it's can't miss stuff! Out of 2500 CDs (or whatever I have), I'd already put this stuff up into the top 50. Easy. And maybe since there's been other trees going on here, perhaps folks are feeling a little 'treed' out. But I can say that some boc-lers have already heard (the crappy copy of) the self-titled and so far everyone has come back to me and said that it *is* truly great stuff. So, as it only takes a few dollars and half-an-hour of time to pack up a blank and send it off, well then, I suggest you consider hopping in. You won't be disappointed. These are people I've heard from and are on my list...most have burners so it'll be easy to arrange. mlicht cosmos chrisr jguizar Lwitt1 pwibrew13 m.french m.jermy spacewreck2001 Doug P., Darrin (if he's still here), and AndyGee, you'll get copies in any case. From me, if not from someone else. Any more? Would it be appropriate to post this over to the neo-Quark list? I'm not on there, and don't know if non-HW things are forbidden. But if not, I'd let those people join in, if someone could post my original offer message over there. (Write me, if you don't have it saved.) Grakkl (FAA) ObBonusCD: Monster Magnet - Viva Las Vegas From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Jun 18 23:22:34 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:22:34 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-lists 6/9 and 6/16 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck #6 arrived in the mail today from the wonderful Victoria! I'll be after the other weird tapes collection soon! ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:14 AM Subject: Re: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) > the $64,000 question............... > as I said in an e.mail to Blackman this weekend, there's an awful lot of > Hawkwind back catalogue now disappearing at a rate of knots....much of it to > remain sadly extinct. > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Habiby" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 11:50 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) > > > > OK so where CAN I get Weird 6. Gary at artist-shop says he can't get it... > > > > Mike in Troy NY > > > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jun 19 00:14:14 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:14:14 +0800 Subject: OFF :Omega Message-ID: Mike Habiby replied: > Yes an Hungarian band. My best buddy from college was of Hungarian descent > and had some cousin send him a few LP's from Hungary. Great prog. We > collected a few in English and I suppose he still has the Hungarian ones. > > I have Omega, Time Robber, Sky Rover and Hall of the Floaters of the Sky on > Vinyl. All in English. Weird lyrics but they are translated from Hungarian > I suppose. > > Highly recommended. > > Mike in Troy NY Thanks Mike. Yes, I can certainly recommend Time Robber, which is in English. I'm pleased to know that they were around a few years before TR. Kollector Mode switched ::on:: Cheers Bill From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jun 19 00:15:13 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:15:13 +0800 Subject: OFF: Omega Message-ID: K Henderson replied: > Yeah, they existed (maybe even still do!?) for many years, and put out lots > of albums. I only have one, purchased just recently actually. One of their > earliest works, from 1969 or so (entitled "1000 " - can't even > remember the title). A Hungarian progressive rock band. I like it well > enough, and plan to pick up more in the future. > > Grakkl (FAA) Ah excellent! Thank you :-) I've had this LP a while and only dragged it out a week ago to have a listen. An Accountant's Dream is one of the songs on the album which kinda reminded me it's tax time soon ::gloom::: If you and Mike are pursuing this band as well, I'll have to get cracking and see how many I can find Down Under. Cheers Bill From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 19 00:14:41 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:44:41 +0930 Subject: Hw: lives! Message-ID: YAY!!! I think Dave is King - but the Hawk is the sum of its parts indeed! Mike B ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:10 AM Subject: Re: Hw: lives! > Yes indeed - Hawkwind lives because of Dave for sure but for me one of the > most important aspects is Dave's Frank Zappa type role in being able to > surround himself with the best musicians for the job at the time while still > having a firm hand on the rudder - there are still a lot of musicians along > the way without whom Hawkwind simply wouldn't have been the same and while > this is in no way to diminish the stature of Dave, is the whole greater than > the sum of the parts.............. > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Jackson" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:59 AM > Subject: Hw: lives! > > > > attention! Hawkwind lives only because of one man, Brock. lest ye forget, > o > > sinners, the time of the Hawk is nigh! > > turn your barbed words into a thousand cheers, and cast the unbelievers > into > > dark oblivion, death to false idols! down with the infedels! let the > bottom > > lippers see the way, for 'tis written that when the gates of hell are upon > > us, only the righteously stoned shall dance on the graves of the unholy, > and > > the sulkers shall sulk for all eternity. > > so remember, in the case of chronic attack of the "why can't it be > 1972's?", > > technology so far has no reached the point where the dead r ressurrected, > > and people who weren't much good in the day, suddenly find new talents to > > amaze and enthrall us, (unlike the PRESENT DAY HERE AND NOW LINE_UP) > > So it is , and so shall it be, Hail Eris! > > A veteran of a thousand Psychic Whores From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 19 00:31:50 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:01:50 +0930 Subject: HW RE:HW lives Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Jackson To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:37 AM Subject: HW RE:HW lives > attention! ah the venerable Mr. G, speaker of truths, supplier of noises > sweet, of course there have been many great musicians passing thru the Shade > Gates, we at Prozac towers cry! But the sweet horn of ffate decrees that > tempus fugit, and it fugits at a fair old pace, i xcan tell you, so hear the > clarion cry, and let forth the Hawks of yore, to smite ye mightily smiterly, > me old muckers, see u on the dawn of the solstice, grooving to the sound of > the mighty Hawk, > Space is deep, bleep bleep! > The Sailore on ther sea of dates See you at the Summer Camp me ole Hawksmith! Aye From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 19 00:45:50 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:15:50 +0930 Subject: HW: lives Message-ID: I'm an urban guerilla, I grow herbs in my cellar ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Jackson To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:25 AM Subject: HW: lives > Djsatan, actually, Bill. Andy G was merely adding to the jollitea. > More wailings from the depths of oblivion to follow > If you wanna get into it, you gotta get out of it > I'm an urban guerilla, I make bongs in me cellar From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 19 00:59:42 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:29:42 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind Related Message-ID: I'm no use to Hawkwind and space rock here in Australia..... Considering moving to where its at!!! Very seriously Mr Hawkspin inc From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 19 01:09:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:39:45 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind Related Message-ID: I can hear the roar of approval allready!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mich at el B To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 2:29 PM Subject: Hawkwind Related I'm no use to Hawkwind and space rock here in Australia..... Considering moving to where its at!!! Very seriously Mr Hawkspin inc From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 19 01:19:11 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:49:11 +0930 Subject: hawkwind - Newcastle feedback - 14th November Message-ID: Hi There should be a Hawkwind concert once a week! I could live with that!!! Every Hawkwind fan in the UK should rally behind the chance for any opportunity to spend a night with the greatest band ever!!! If i'm there in time, I'll be there...... Michael B From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Tue Jun 19 01:55:50 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:55:50 -0600 Subject: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) Message-ID: I should have mine soon!! I ordered mine from her about 2 weeks ago... Got the rest! Fun stuph:) Pam "Mich at el B" wrote: > #6 arrived in the mail today from the wonderful Victoria! > > I'll be after the other weird tapes collection soon! > -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Does anyone know whether HW are headlining on friday or what? It's fairly academic to me as I doubt I'll be back in the country until friday night now anyway, but I might push to get home thursday if they're topping the bill. Nick From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Jun 19 04:23:37 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 04:23:37 -0400 Subject: Donnington Rock & Blues: who goes there? Message-ID: Well I should have been there after arranging a convoluted train / bus / car / walk trip via the NE of England, but as always a link in the chain has failed. I me how inconsiderate can you get. Just because his wife gave birth last night he won't be driving me to Donington. Bastard:-( Stuart Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:18:18 +0100 From: M Holmes Subject: Donnington Rock & Blues: who goes there? Looks like I'll be heading down Friday. Does anyone know what time Hawkwind are playing? It's a long way from here and I'd hate to miss 'em. So are us hawkfans meeting up in the beer tent or whatever? Should we collect mobile numbers to arrange a Conjunction of the Peers? FoFP From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Jun 19 04:25:07 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 04:25:07 -0400 Subject: Possible gig at Newcastle Opera House Message-ID: Forwarded from HWAnarchy at request of Sonnie Remember, am planning to run a bus from Scotland and the North Stuart From: "Sonnie Kenney" Date: Mon Jun 18, 2001 5:29 pm Subject: Possible gig at Newcastle Opera House Not long dove into Mission control to check up on Hawkwind free festivals this year and noticed that they were wanting feedback on the Newcastle Opera House via BOC as to possibility of a future gig. Now not quite knowing what sort of feedback in particular they were after but I do know that it is fast becoming a popular venue for some reason. If anybody is in the BOC list do you think you could do me a favour and pass the information on, especially as the NE is general is getting starved of Hawkwind. Sonnie P.S. The bar quotes a fine selection of real ales as well. From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Jun 19 04:49:52 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 04:49:52 -0400 Subject: Woronzow News Message-ID: WORONZOW NEWS Hi everyone, hope you're having a good summer. What's going on with the = weather, then? End of the world, or just bloody horrible? Oh well, first = things first; Ade, as you may know, has recently undergone six months of = treatment for Hepatitis C. Very unpleasant. Injecting himself every = other day, and more or less feeling like shit as a result. Nasty side = effects too. However, it all seems to have been worthwhile, because it = appears to have worked, and it looks like he's cured. This is, needles = to say, great news, not just for the boy himself, but for his family and = friends as well. So hooray! Ade and I have just returned from an acoustic tour of the USA, which was = absolutely fantastic. Great responses all round, so thanks to everyone = who helped with or attended the shows, you did us proud. We met a lot of = old mates, Stu Pope, Mary Lou Lord, Wayne and John of Brother JT, Aamir, = The Green Pajamas to name but a few. We also played the last four gigs = with our American drummer mate, Joe Propatier (now resident in New = York). We'd do the first 45 minutes as an acoustic duo, then take a five = minute break, and come back as a hopefully rocking electric three piece. = It seemed to work a treat. Thanks should go to 'Mat Pond PA' for letting = us use their equipment. So what's up at home? Well, we've got two new = albums ready (more about those in a moment), and coming soon the long = awaited Gadsby & Skol masterpiece, a superb new set from The Green = Pajamas, and fabulous second outing from The Lucky Bishops. All 3 are = essential, and we'll let you know all about them as soon as they're = ready. Fresh from the pressing plant, and sitting in our respective halls as I = write, are the new CDs from Tony Hill and thebrotheregg. Tony's CD is = his first ever solo effort. I'm sure you know that he was the guitarist = with, among others, The Misunderstood and High Tide. It's full of great = songs, all brand new, written specially for this project. His singing is = wonderful, and his guitar playing is totally unique. We were also very = ar playing was as good as ever. He was a little less sure of his ability to write songs again, but = before long he'd amassed a really wonderful selection of brand new = archetypical material. Basically, it sounded like he was picking up = where the second High Tide album ended. We then called up original High = Tide bassist Pete Pavli, who came down from his nest in West Wales and = played on three tracks. Ace violinist, Matt Kelly contributed some = searing violin passages, while Andy Ward laid down rock solid drums. Ade = supplied bass to the tracks Pete didn't play on, and I added occasional = keyboards and guitar. The sessions went superbly well, Tony was in fine = form both vocally and (instru)mentally. The result is 'Inexactness', his = first ever solo album, and first appearance on record for well over a = decade. I can honestly say that for all concerned it's a dream come = true. We reckon it's a work of rare genius, and we're pretty sure you = will too. Inexactness is simply Tony doing what Tony does best, singing = great songs and playing killing guitar. Forget those spurious out-takes = and rehearsal albums with added drum machine that were put together in = the eighties. This is the logical successor to the High Tide legacy. The = unique and unmistakable sound of Tony Hill flying high once again. And = not before time! Available on CD only. Price; =A311 plus postage. UK; =A31, Europe; =A32, USA and elsewhere; = =A33. Write to; WORONZOW, 75 MELVILLE ROAD, WALTHAMSTOW, LONDON E17 6QT, UK. Please note; Eurocheques are no longer acceptable in the UK. If you prefer, you can order over the net via our credit card facility. Go to; www.woronzow.co.uk e-mail;info at woronzow.co.uk SPECIAL OFFER; Buy both CDs and postage is FREE anywhere. thebrotheregg:=20 snowflake & fingerprint machine What can you say about a new album from a relatively unknown band that = doesn't sound like a load of hype? Only that if we didn't think it was a = masterpiece, we wouldn't have put it out. Let's face it, Woronzow is a = small company and every title we issue is to some degree a bit of a = gamble. Therefore, we can only commit ourselves to projects that we = genuinely adore. You've probably never heard of thebrotheregg. Well, = they're from Portland, Oregon, and they've been in existence for several = years. They supported The Frond the first time we played there back in = 1998, and were extremely friendly and helpful to us. Our van had broken = down in Montana, and we'd had to leave much of our equipment (and our = roadie) there, while it was being repaired. We arrived in Portland in a = hired jeep. thebrotheregg lent us their equipment, and even ran the = merchandise stall for us. As a result we stayed in touch. Earlier this = year, a demo CD plopped through the Woronzow letter box. It was = thebrotheregg's new album. They'd sent it around and had no response, = and wondered what we thought. To be honest, we had no idea what to = expect, as the line-up was completely different apart from their = mainman, Adam Goldman. Within ten minutes of sticking it on the CD = player, we knew we had to put it out on Woronzow. 'Snowflake & = Fingerprint Machine' is a stone cold work of genius. One of the best = thing we've heard for years. It's as simple as that. Adam's been working = on this album for two whole years! And it shows. It's complex without = being too anal, it's beautifully produced. The songs are strange, = twisted ballads full of odd imagery and unexpected tangents, but always = fantastically melodic. Great harmonies, and wonderful playing on an = array of usual and unusual instruments. You've got your guitars, = keyboards, bass (mostly upright string bass) and drums, but also brass = sections, theremins, electronic effects, string sections, analogue = synths and lot more. It's a magnificent piece of work which we truly = believe dumps all over Mercury Rev, Flaming Lips, Sparklehorse and all = that. Who's nominating albums for the Mercury Prize these days? They = ought to give this a listen. Then again maybe not; we couldn't have a = winner who hasn't been promoted at all, who hasn't been the poodle of = the press, and who isn't on a wealthy label now, could we? As we've said = already, this is something very special. But don't take our word for it, = find out for yourself. We promise you won't be disappointed. Available on CD only. Price =A311 plus postage. UK; =A31. Europe; =A32, USA and elsewhere; = =A33. Write to; WORONZOW, 75 MELVILLE ROAD, WALTHAMSTOW, LONDON=20 E17 6QT, UK. Please note; Eurocheques are no longer acceptable in the UK. If you prefer you can order over the net via our credit card facility. Go to;www.woronzow.co.uk e-mail;info at woronzow.co.uk=20 SPECIAL OFFER; Buy both CDs and postage is FREE anywhere. From m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK Tue Jun 19 05:07:50 2001 From: m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK (Merrick Martin French) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:07:50 +0100 Subject: Donnington Rock & Blues: who goes there? Message-ID: stuart, if you can get to sheffield for earlyish thursday we'll give you a lift to donnington and back to sheffield on sunday if thats any help - no dogs, no babies though !! Julie and Merrick French From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Tue Jun 19 05:20:06 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:20:06 +0100 Subject: Donington Rock & Blues: who goes there? Message-ID: > So are us hawkfans meeting up in the beer tent or whatever? Should we > collect mobile numbers to arrange a Conjunction of the Peers? I reckon I'm going to do the train/bus thing. Would London -> Derby then catching a bus be the best bet? If so which bus and where from? Any guidance will be gratefully received. Anyone else going from London? Keef P.S. Read in the paper this morning about enormous plagues of locusts causing havoc around the globe - "The Greenfly & The Rose" or what?!! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 19 05:51:23 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:21:23 +0930 Subject: HW: Weird 6 (& other goodies) Message-ID: I could have danced a merry little jig when I opened mine - knowing how hard they are to find!!! I love the world peace message on your emails!! We should all get together one year at Stonehenge and have a group meditation on that very thought: WORLD PEACE!! > I should have mine soon!! I ordered mine from her about 2 weeks ago... Got the > rest! Fun stuph:) > Pam > > "Mich at el B" wrote: > > > #6 arrived in the mail today from the wonderful Victoria! > > > > I'll be after the other weird tapes collection soon! > > > > -- > Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton > _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace > 0 0 E-mail: cwheaton at TransWestTaxi.com > URL:http://www.TransWestTaxi.com > From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Jun 19 06:01:31 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:01:31 +0100 Subject: still searching for wierd6 & other Hawkwindy stuff Message-ID: A fortnight ago Victoria at Voiceprint had only two copies and she very nicely sold one to me (just got to get the other 6 now). Since then I'm sure I've seen someone on the list mention they've ordered a copy from her so I think that's it from the Voiceprint people. Sam Oh on another little matter, someone asked a few weeks ago about delivery times on stuff from Hawkwind 'direct'. Well that lovely woman Kris has finally sent me my copy of Live '97 and I wrote the cheque in February or March, might even have been April.....shows the strength of my short term memory!! I don't really care though - I console myself with the idea that they must be really busy working on a studio album. p.p.s - I've just got a job working for much nicer people in a much better company so I'll be signing off for a while in about three weeks - I only have internet access at work (that's a lie too, I have TV internet but if any of you have ever used it.........) so as soon as I have a new email address at my new job place (new,new,new - have I said that yet) I'll be back. Peace Love & Hawkwind - always. Sam -----Original Message----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI [mailto:andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM] Sent: 18 June 2001 22:46 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: still searching for wierd6 ah yes......the Voiceprint closet - luckily open to fans but sadly closed to dealers............ Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Wibrew" To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 9:28 AM Subject: still searching for wierd6 > Hiyall > > I don't know how likely those that still need it are to get it, but Victoria > at Voiceprint ( what a Gem) has just pulled one out of the closet for > me.......Way to go Victoria....... > > Wishing you luck in your search > All the best > Peter The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 19 06:33:41 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:33:41 +0100 Subject: Very OFF: weird shit Message-ID: Channel 5 here had one of those "SF and Aliens" nights where they show cheesy SF films (Close Encounters) and even cheesier "documentaries" about aliens, Roswell, and how the yanks faked the Moon landings. Still, being a sucker for cheesy SF and liking a laugh at conspiracy theories, I naturally watched some of this. So imagine my surprise when video was shown of a "UFO" over Phoenix a few years back and I realised that this is the same damn thing I saw on the west coast of Scotland a couple of years ago and could never really figure out what the hell it was (not of course that the documentary had anything more to offer than that it might be extraterrestrial visitors). I can already sense the guffaws rising in throats. I'd point out that those who know me well realise that I'm a pretty extreme rationalist and that I know enough about astronomy to both know what I'm looking at in the sky, and just how difficult interstellar logistics would be. I also know that I saw something that isn't part of the usual panoply of things seen in the sky at night. IMHO it's some sort of military hardware that they don't want folks to know about (the west coast of Scotland isn't exactly densely populated). Admittedly flying it over Phoenix for a few hundred people to watch seems at odds with this. So on the plus side, I'm not the only person who's ever seen this thing. On the minus side, a number of the other folks are fully fledged nuts. It's kind of annoying when I had a perfectly workable skeptical gig going and I'd just about persuaded myself that I saw a line of NOSS satellites. FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 19 06:58:07 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:28:07 +0930 Subject: Very OFF: weird shit Message-ID: The bastards won't come out and play for me!! I'm sure there just messin with my head LOL!!! But I hear ya Mike! I have a friend who is a very straight and of an extremly sober disposition who saw a similar event only at a much closer view - extreme close encounter! Would have been late 60's to early 70's Monahans Texas - ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:03 PM Subject: Very OFF: weird shit > Channel 5 here had one of those "SF and Aliens" nights where they show > cheesy SF films (Close Encounters) and even cheesier "documentaries" > about aliens, Roswell, and how the yanks faked the Moon landings. > > Still, being a sucker for cheesy SF and liking a laugh at conspiracy > theories, I naturally watched some of this. > > So imagine my surprise when video was shown of a "UFO" over Phoenix a > few years back and I realised that this is the same damn thing I saw on > the west coast of Scotland a couple of years ago and could never really > figure out what the hell it was (not of course that the documentary had > anything more to offer than that it might be extraterrestrial visitors). > > I can already sense the guffaws rising in throats. I'd point out that > those who know me well realise that I'm a pretty extreme rationalist and > that I know enough about astronomy to both know what I'm looking at in > the sky, and just how difficult interstellar logistics would be. > > I also know that I saw something that isn't part of the usual panoply of > things seen in the sky at night. IMHO it's some sort of military > hardware that they don't want folks to know about (the west coast of > Scotland isn't exactly densely populated). Admittedly flying it over > Phoenix for a few hundred people to watch seems at odds with this. > > So on the plus side, I'm not the only person who's ever seen this thing. > On the minus side, a number of the other folks are fully fledged nuts. > It's kind of annoying when I had a perfectly workable skeptical gig > going and I'd just about persuaded myself that I saw a line of NOSS > satellites. > > FoFP > From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Tue Jun 19 12:01:54 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:01:54 -0400 Subject: This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic Message-ID: I played the above vinyl album the other night (for the first time in about 10 years) and quite enjoyed the first Lp. I then played side 3 (Stonehenge Decoded) and it reminded me of many concerts in particular the last and only Stonehenge festival I attended in 1984, which I think was where that recording was from. The sound was awesome and it made me feel like I was there again. When I went to turn the record over to side 4 I realised I'd been listening to it on the wrong speed. So I upped it to 45 and listened again, but it wasn't as good! Go on try it. Eddie Jobson From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Tue Jun 19 07:21:09 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:21:09 +0100 Subject: This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic Message-ID: ejobson wrote: > I played the above vinyl album the other night (for the first time in about > 10 years) and quite enjoyed the first Lp. I then played side 3 (Stonehenge > Decoded) and it reminded me of many concerts in particular the last and only > Stonehenge festival I attended in 1984, which I think was where that > recording was from. The sound was awesome and it made me feel like I was > there again. When I went to turn the record over to side 4 I realised I'd > been listening to it on the wrong speed. So I upped it to 45 and listened > again, but it wasn't as good! I've done exactly the same thing in the past - by mistake of course! I honestly didn't notice until Dave's vocals came in. Go on, try it - you know you want to! Keef From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Tue Jun 19 12:43:20 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:43:20 -0400 Subject: This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic In-Reply-To: <3B2F35A5.E787557F@cinesite.co.uk> Message-ID: Daves vocals made you feel instantly stoned at 33rpm though, didn't they? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Keith Barton Sent: 19 June 2001 07:21 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic ejobson wrote: > I played the above vinyl album the other night (for the first time in about > 10 years) and quite enjoyed the first Lp. I then played side 3 (Stonehenge > Decoded) and it reminded me of many concerts in particular the last and only > Stonehenge festival I attended in 1984, which I think was where that > recording was from. The sound was awesome and it made me feel like I was > there again. When I went to turn the record over to side 4 I realised I'd > been listening to it on the wrong speed. So I upped it to 45 and listened > again, but it wasn't as good! I've done exactly the same thing in the past - by mistake of course! I honestly didn't notice until Dave's vocals came in. Go on, try it - you know you want to! Keef From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Tue Jun 19 07:49:14 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:49:14 +0100 Subject: This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic Message-ID: ejobson wrote: > Daves vocals made you feel instantly stoned at 33rpm though, didn't they? I was stoned already - that's why it was on 33!! Keef From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Tue Jun 19 08:37:31 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:37:31 -0400 Subject: explanation Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:00:46 -0500, Stephen Lindas wrote: >I have a problem. This guy wants to know what HAWKWIND sounds like. I am at >a lose for words here. I don't even know where to start. Anyone here who can >come up with a brief discription, I would truly appreciate it. THANK YOU in >advance!!!! STEPHE Unconventional rock music with electronics. Alastair. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 19 08:57:19 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:27:19 +0930 Subject: explanation Message-ID: Give the feller some samples to listen to If you don't have a burner I'll do it for ya say two or three songs? Let me know which ones you would want him to hear - I can cater!! and your address! Always willing to help the uninitiated!!! Hope thats cool DAVE?? Kris ?? Just a few tracks to bring a new fan into the fold? Enjoy the experience?? Regards Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Alastair Lee Sumner To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:07 PM Subject: Re: explanation > On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:00:46 -0500, Stephen Lindas > wrote: > > >I have a problem. This guy wants to know what HAWKWIND sounds like. I am at > >a lose for words here. I don't even know where to start. Anyone here who > can > >come up with a brief discription, I would truly appreciate it. THANK YOU in > >advance!!!! STEPHE > > Unconventional rock music with electronics. > > Alastair. > From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jun 19 09:18:43 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:18:43 -0400 Subject: HW: official irc band chat Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:35:52 -0500, Arin Komins wrote: >There will be an official band chat on this upcoming Wednesday at 18:00 >GMT. Definitely GMT? So in other words it will be 7pm here in the UK, given that we're now on British Summer Time? From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jun 19 09:59:10 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:59:10 -0400 Subject: This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:49:14 +0100, Keith Barton wrote: >ejobson wrote: > >> Daves vocals made you feel instantly stoned at 33rpm though, didn't they? > >I was stoned already - that's why it was on 33!! > >Keef Also, try playing side 4 ("Watching the Grass Grow") at 33. Talk about doom metal... Sabbath eat yer hearts out. BTW am I correct in thinkong that the person who introduces the Hawks at the start of WTGG is none other than Roy Harper? Anyone else here attend Harper's 60th birthday concert the other night? A great night. From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jun 19 10:11:46 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:11:46 -0500 Subject: explanation Message-ID: If he doesnt reply to me I will have lost touch. Thanks for the offer. If I hear back I'll let you know. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:57 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: explanation Give the feller some samples to listen to If you don't have a burner I'll do it for ya say two or three songs? Let me know which ones you would want him to hear - I can cater!! and your address! Always willing to help the uninitiated!!! Hope thats cool DAVE?? Kris ?? Just a few tracks to bring a new fan into the fold? Enjoy the experience?? Regards Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Alastair Lee Sumner To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:07 PM Subject: Re: explanation > On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:00:46 -0500, Stephen Lindas > wrote: > > >I have a problem. This guy wants to know what HAWKWIND sounds like. I am at > >a lose for words here. I don't even know where to start. Anyone here who > can > >come up with a brief discription, I would truly appreciate it. THANK YOU in > >advance!!!! STEPHE > > Unconventional rock music with electronics. > > Alastair. > From novadrive at HOME.COM Tue Jun 19 10:39:05 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:39:05 -0700 Subject: This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic In-Reply-To: <002601c0f8da$18b30bc0$c5102cc3@thrupoint.net> Message-ID: Oh I 'tried' it (quite by accident) when I first got the vinyl 17 years ago... I think I'll record the version from the CD onto the AutoMind, then use Cool Edit to slow it down appropriately, then...listen to it without pops, I guess. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of ejobson Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:02 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic I played the above vinyl album the other night (for the first time in about 10 years) and quite enjoyed the first Lp. I then played side 3 (Stonehenge Decoded) and it reminded me of many concerts in particular the last and only Stonehenge festival I attended in 1984, which I think was where that recording was from. The sound was awesome and it made me feel like I was there again. When I went to turn the record over to side 4 I realised I'd been listening to it on the wrong speed. So I upped it to 45 and listened again, but it wasn't as good! Go on try it. Eddie Jobson From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 19 10:45:25 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:15:25 +0930 Subject: HW: official irc band chat Message-ID: that'll be 3 - 4pm in the am for us ozzies I'll set the alarms I'll be the one with the red eyes!! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:48 PM Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat > On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:35:52 -0500, Arin Komins > wrote: > > >There will be an official band chat on this upcoming Wednesday at 18:00 > >GMT. > > Definitely GMT? So in other words it will be 7pm here in the UK, given that > we're now on British Summer Time? > From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Jun 19 10:46:37 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Samantha Kirwan) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:46:37 +0100 Subject: HW: official irc band chat Message-ID: 3-4pm in the am - nope - still trying to work that one out - brain chronology into overload.....cease....cease....cease Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: 19 June 2001 15:45 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat that'll be 3 - 4pm in the am for us ozzies I'll set the alarms I'll be the one with the red eyes!! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:48 PM Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat > On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:35:52 -0500, Arin Komins > wrote: > > >There will be an official band chat on this upcoming Wednesday at 18:00 > >GMT. > > Definitely GMT? So in other words it will be 7pm here in the UK, given that > we're now on British Summer Time? > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. ntl Group Limited From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Tue Jun 19 10:51:43 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:51:43 -0400 Subject: OFF :Omega Message-ID: Bill & Cynthia wrote: > Does anyone know anything about the group "Omega?" The album I have is "Time > Robber" recorded in 1976 at Europa-sound-Studios in Germany. I was wondering > if they released any other material as Omega, or now involved in other > projects? > Musicians are: > > Janos Kobor: Lead Vocal/Percussion > Laszio Benko: Moog synthesizer/Vocals > Tamas Mihaly: Bass/Vocal > Gyorgy Moinar: Guitars/12 String Guitar/Acoustic Guitar > Ferenc Debreceni: Drums/percussion They've released quite a few albums. A complete discography would be complicated as several of their albums are available in Hungarian editions (with Hungarian lyrics) and English editions. Sometimes the English releases are pieced together from several Hungarian albums. _Time Robbers_ is my favorite of theirs, but similar ones would be _Hall Of Floaters In The Sky_ and _Two Thousand Year War_. Others tend to be more straight ahead rock, but none are bad. I've got one Hungarian LP with a sheet metal cover. (-8 John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Tue Jun 19 11:03:29 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:03:29 +0200 Subject: OFF :Omega In-Reply-To: <3B2F66FF.41302707@pa.msu.edu> Message-ID: > > Does anyone know anything about the group "Omega?" The album I have is > "Time > > Robber" recorded in 1976 at Europa-sound-Studios in Germany. I was > wondering > > if they released any other material as Omega, or now involved in other > > projects? > > Musicians are: > > > > Janos Kobor: Lead Vocal/Percussion > > Laszio Benko: Moog synthesizer/Vocals > > Tamas Mihaly: Bass/Vocal > > Gyorgy Moinar: Guitars/12 String Guitar/Acoustic Guitar > > Ferenc Debreceni: Drums/percussion > >They've released quite a few albums. A complete discography would be >complicated as several of their albums are available in Hungarian editions >(with >Hungarian lyrics) and English editions. Sometimes the English releases are >pieced together from several Hungarian albums. > >_Time Robbers_ is my favorite of theirs, but similar ones would be _Hall Of >Floaters In The Sky_ and _Two Thousand Year War_. Others tend to be more >straight ahead rock, but none are bad. > >I've got one Hungarian LP with a sheet metal cover. (-8 > >John McIntyre >Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept >Michigan State University >mcintyre at pa.msu.edu ok surf to http://gammapolis.de/ and you will find all the information you need about this wonderful band. got many of their albums and specially the early releases are very essential. have fun. andre From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Jun 19 11:05:24 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:05:24 -0500 Subject: HW: official irc band chat In-Reply-To: <200106191318.JAA20323@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Nick Medford wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat : :On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:35:52 -0500, Arin Komins : wrote: : :>There will be an official band chat on this upcoming Wednesday at 18:00 :>GMT. : :Definitely GMT? So in other words it will be 7pm here in the UK, given that :we're now on British Summer Time? It should be at 6pm your time tomorrow (noonish my time.) (Rik, correct me if I'm wrong.....) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 19 11:12:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:42:27 +0930 Subject: HW: official irc band chat Message-ID: oh smegg - don't I feel rather silly now :>} tee hee I meant 3 - 4 in the am sorry! Mb :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Samantha Kirwan To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:16 AM Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat > 3-4pm in the am - nope - still trying to work that one out - brain > chronology into overload.....cease....cease....cease > > Sam > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mich at el B [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: 19 June 2001 15:45 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat > > > that'll be 3 - 4pm in the am for us ozzies > > I'll set the alarms > > I'll be the one with the red eyes!! :) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nick Medford > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat > > > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:35:52 -0500, Arin Komins > > wrote: > > > > >There will be an official band chat on this upcoming Wednesday at 18:00 > > >GMT. > > > > Definitely GMT? So in other words it will be 7pm here in the UK, given > that > > we're now on British Summer Time? > > > > > The contents of this email and any attachments are sent for the personal attention > of the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If you are not the intended > addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this email and any attachments is > unauthorised - please notify the sender by return and delete the message. Any > representations or commitments expressed in this email are subject to contract. > > ntl Group Limited > From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jun 19 11:09:20 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:09:20 -0500 Subject: HW: official irc band chat Message-ID: Wouldn't Chicago be +7 hours from GMT? -----Original Message----- From: Arin Komins [mailto:akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:05 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Nick Medford wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat : :On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:35:52 -0500, Arin Komins : wrote: : :>There will be an official band chat on this upcoming Wednesday at 18:00 :>GMT. : :Definitely GMT? So in other words it will be 7pm here in the UK, given that :we're now on British Summer Time? It should be at 6pm your time tomorrow (noonish my time.) (Rik, correct me if I'm wrong.....) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Jun 19 11:49:15 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:49:15 -0500 Subject: HW: official irc band chat In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A1F8@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat : :Wouldn't Chicago be +7 hours from GMT? : chicago is gmt -6, althought with daylight savings time, we may be at gmt -5. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Tue Jun 19 11:57:44 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:57:44 -0400 Subject: HW: official irc band chat Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:49:15 -0500, Arin Komins wrote: >On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > >:Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat >: >:Wouldn't Chicago be +7 hours from GMT? >: > >chicago is gmt -6, althought with daylight savings time, we may be at gmt >-5. > >Arin I know that Indiana is 5 hours behind GMT and 6 hours behind the UK, which is on BST - British Summer Time, at the moment. Just remember that the UK is currently one hour ahead of GMT. Alastair. >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu >Manager of Web Systems Architecture >University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 >1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 >------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Jun 19 11:58:00 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:58:00 -0500 Subject: HW: official irc band chat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Arin Komins wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat : :On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: : ::Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat :: ::Wouldn't Chicago be +7 hours from GMT? :: : :chicago is gmt -6, althought with daylight savings time, we may be at gmt :-5. : we are gmt -6. with our daylight savings time and your british summer time cancelling out ;-) (talking to a uk'er on irc now to help confirm ;-) ) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jun 19 12:30:01 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:30:01 -0500 Subject: HW: official irc band chat Message-ID: I used to be in the navy and every logbook had to be in gmt. VERY CONFUSING. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Arin Komins [mailto:akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:49 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat : :Wouldn't Chicago be +7 hours from GMT? : chicago is gmt -6, althought with daylight savings time, we may be at gmt -5. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Tue Jun 19 13:18:06 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:18:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide Message-ID: Great news about the new Tony Hill album! But... > >... Forget those spurious out-takes and rehearsal albums with added >drum machine that were put together in the eighties. This is the >logical successor to the High Tide legacy... > The High Tide - Precious Cargo release (1970 rehearsals) is fantastic, despite dodgy sound quality. I am certainly NOT going to forget about that. Anyone who knows and admires the first two official releases should give this one a try - its more melodic, less heavy, and Simon House's violin playing is beautiful - in fact all the musicians are in great form. The Interesting Times 80's reunion release DOES suffer from drum machines and slick production, but still has some quite good material on it as well (including versions of songs that appear on Precious Cargo). So, no amnesia for these 2 titles at least... There are also a bunch of '80s and '90s releases (Flood, Ancient Gates, Reason of Success(?), etc.) that I haven't heard. Does anyone know what these sound like? Stephan From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jun 19 13:22:03 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:22:03 -0500 Subject: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide Message-ID: The flood and reason for success, I didn't feel were that appealing as the first 2. Some other guy plays violin and it didn't have the same feel as when Simon was there. I think he plays 1 or 2 tracks on those. Does anyone on here know if there was actually a cassette called HIGH TIDE 3? It was listed in a discography and I wondered if it DID EXIST. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Stephan Forstner [mailto:stemfors at PIPELINE.COM] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:18 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide Great news about the new Tony Hill album! But... > >... Forget those spurious out-takes and rehearsal albums with added >drum machine that were put together in the eighties. This is the >logical successor to the High Tide legacy... > The High Tide - Precious Cargo release (1970 rehearsals) is fantastic, despite dodgy sound quality. I am certainly NOT going to forget about that. Anyone who knows and admires the first two official releases should give this one a try - its more melodic, less heavy, and Simon House's violin playing is beautiful - in fact all the musicians are in great form. The Interesting Times 80's reunion release DOES suffer from drum machines and slick production, but still has some quite good material on it as well (including versions of songs that appear on Precious Cargo). So, no amnesia for these 2 titles at least... There are also a bunch of '80s and '90s releases (Flood, Ancient Gates, Reason of Success(?), etc.) that I haven't heard. Does anyone know what these sound like? Stephan From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Jun 19 13:42:10 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:42:10 +0200 Subject: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A1FD@hermes.marketday. com> Message-ID: Hi, >The flood and reason for success, I didn't feel were that appealing as the >first 2. Some other guy plays violin and it didn't have the same feel as >when Simon was there. I think he plays 1 or 2 tracks on those. Does anyone >on here know if there was actually a cassette called HIGH TIDE 3? It was >listed in a discography and I wondered if it DID EXIST. STEPHE Speaking of High Tide: I saw both "Sea Shanties" and "High Tide" in a music store the other day. I nearly bought both of them, but decided against when I saw those Neu! remasters. But as I might buy them the next time, I'm interested what I have to expect from High Tide. It should be great music, with both Simon House and Pete Pavli, but I haven't heard any songs by HT yet. So anyone here, who could tell me what HT sound like? (c)IAO D+R np: Univers Zero, "Heresie" -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jun 19 13:42:07 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:42:07 -0500 Subject: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide Message-ID: Kind of like heavy acid rock with violin. Those 2 are the best in my opinion. If you like Simon House and Hawkwind, I don't think you will be disappointed. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Denis Regenbrecht [mailto:denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:42 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide Hi, >The flood and reason for success, I didn't feel were that appealing as the >first 2. Some other guy plays violin and it didn't have the same feel as >when Simon was there. I think he plays 1 or 2 tracks on those. Does anyone >on here know if there was actually a cassette called HIGH TIDE 3? It was >listed in a discography and I wondered if it DID EXIST. STEPHE Speaking of High Tide: I saw both "Sea Shanties" and "High Tide" in a music store the other day. I nearly bought both of them, but decided against when I saw those Neu! remasters. But as I might buy them the next time, I'm interested what I have to expect from High Tide. It should be great music, with both Simon House and Pete Pavli, but I haven't heard any songs by HT yet. So anyone here, who could tell me what HT sound like? (c)IAO D+R np: Univers Zero, "Heresie" -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Jun 19 13:59:17 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:59:17 -0400 Subject: HW: official irc band chat In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A1F8@hermes.marketday.com>; from Lindas@MARKETDAY.COM on Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 10:09:20AM -0500 Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 10:09:20AM -0500, Stephen Lindas wrote: > Wouldn't Chicago be +7 hours from GMT? Nope, that'd be Bangkok. But Nick's original question stands: are we sure it's 18:00 GMT and not BST? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Jun 19 14:06:28 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:06:28 +0100 Subject: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide Message-ID: I've seen some high tide stuff mainly in second hand record stores, can anyone add to the information already given and recommend some good albums by them to start off with. many thanks Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lindas" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide > Kind of like heavy acid rock with violin. Those 2 are the best in my > opinion. If you like Simon House and Hawkwind, I don't think you will be > disappointed. STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denis Regenbrecht [mailto:denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:42 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide > > > Hi, > > >The flood and reason for success, I didn't feel were that appealing as the > >first 2. Some other guy plays violin and it didn't have the same feel as > >when Simon was there. I think he plays 1 or 2 tracks on those. Does anyone > >on here know if there was actually a cassette called HIGH TIDE 3? It was > >listed in a discography and I wondered if it DID EXIST. STEPHE > > Speaking of High Tide: I saw both "Sea Shanties" and "High Tide" in a music > store the other day. I nearly bought both of them, but decided against when > I saw those Neu! remasters. > But as I might buy them the next time, I'm interested what I have to expect > from High Tide. It should be great music, with both Simon House and Pete > Pavli, but I haven't heard any songs by HT yet. So anyone here, who could > tell me what HT sound like? > > (c)IAO > > D+R > > np: Univers Zero, "Heresie" > > -- > "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" > Hassan I Sabbah > > www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de > From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Jun 19 14:01:40 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:01:40 -0400 Subject: HW: official irc band chat In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A1FA@hermes.marketday.com>; from Lindas@MARKETDAY.COM on Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:30:01AM -0500 Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:30:01AM -0500, Stephen Lindas wrote: > I used to be in the navy and every logbook had to be in gmt. VERY CONFUSING. Less confusing than if it was in local time, and then two weeks later you were on the other side of the world reading the log and going "damn, what time *was* it this was written?"! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jun 19 14:02:18 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:02:18 -0500 Subject: HW: official irc band chat Message-ID: I guess thats why they do it that way!!! STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Eric Siegerman [mailto:erics at TELEPRES.COM] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 1:02 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:30:01AM -0500, Stephen Lindas wrote: > I used to be in the navy and every logbook had to be in gmt. VERY CONFUSING. Less confusing than if it was in local time, and then two weeks later you were on the other side of the world reading the log and going "damn, what time *was* it this was written?"! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jun 19 14:28:08 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:28:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer Message-ID: Re. the Magazine box-set- if anyone was wondering about the end of the story (especially those kind people who offered to buy it from me)- well I finally made it to the shop today, the box-set was still there, but when i tried to buy it I was told that it was a mistake and it shouldn't have been in the "Sale" section! Bloody cheek. I did however get a cheap single CD called "Where The Power Is" which claims to be the definitive guide to Magazine, although doubtless there'll now be a deluge of mails explaining why this claim is false... haven't played it yet. On the subject of cheap CDs, the shop at the Royal Festival Hall has a number of Wayne Kramer CDs for a fiver apiece at the mo. I picked up "Citizen Wayne" last weekend, there are still a few others left... -- Nick Medford From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue Jun 19 15:12:11 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:12:11 -0400 Subject: HW: IRC GMT/BST Message-ID: arrrrgghhhhh.... It has rightfully been pointed out that the IRC chat is promoted as being 18:00 GMT, and sgould have read 18:00 BST (Daylight saving in operation here) Perhaps we should have stated internet time :} Rx From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jun 19 16:03:42 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:03:42 -0400 Subject: OTHER: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:06:28 +0100, colm mcwilliams wrote: >I've seen some high tide stuff mainly in second hand record stores, can >anyone add to the information already given and recommend some good albums >by them to start off with. > >many thanks > >Colm McWilliams Pretty much to reiterate what's already been said ... The two "original" High Tide albums, 'Sea Shanties' (the first), and 'High Tide' (the second), are fantastic! As is the 'Interesting Times' album of 1970-era outtakes. DEFINITELY start with one of those three. Of the three, I'd say that 'Interesting Times' in the most melodic, 'High Tide' is the most psychedelic (with 3 extended tracks), and 'Sea Shanties' is the heaviest, but all are excellent. I'd describe the band as a post- Cream/Hendrix type heavy/acid rock trio, PLUS the addition of Simon House's violin. If you like both of those ingredients, you'll probably like High Tide very much (if you don't, I probably wouldn't bother). Tony Hill's voice can take a bit to get used to (although it's not nearly as extreme as Dave Thomas/Pere Ubu or Captain Beefheart, for instance), but it's probably worth it. And don't forget that High Tide bassist Pete Pavli is also connected to Hawkwind by being Michael Moorcock's main man (on bass, cello and keys/synths) in the Deep Fix. And that prior to High Tide, Tony Hill was in the most excellent Misunderstood. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 19 17:35:56 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:35:56 +0100 Subject: OFF :Omega Message-ID: Actually, the band have recorded a whole stack of albums and are apparently still going. We recently had a fair few of their Hungarian output at CD Services, so if anyone would like a complete list, to which I do not have access here, then e.mail me at: agcdser at aol.com and put 'Omega list' in the title box and I will e.mail it back to you with any opinions where appropriate altho' I think Dave, who does their reviews, didn't get through all of them. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 5:14 AM Subject: Re: OFF :Omega > Mike Habiby replied: > > > Yes an Hungarian band. My best buddy from college was of Hungarian descent > > and had some cousin send him a few LP's from Hungary. Great prog. We > > collected a few in English and I suppose he still has the Hungarian ones. > > > > I have Omega, Time Robber, Sky Rover and Hall of the Floaters of the Sky > on > > Vinyl. All in English. Weird lyrics but they are translated from > Hungarian > > I suppose. > > > > Highly recommended. > > > > Mike in Troy NY > > Thanks Mike. > Yes, I can certainly recommend Time Robber, which is in English. I'm > pleased to know that they were around a few years before TR. > > Kollector Mode switched ::on:: > > Cheers > Bill From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jun 19 18:08:25 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:08:25 +0100 Subject: Off HW, Tony Hill, High Tide Message-ID: Just to let everyone know, the new High Tide comp with some previously unreleased tracks on it is now in stock at CD Services on CD (we sold out of the vinyl right away biut more due in next week) so can be ordered and despatched immediately. Thanks to all Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lindas" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: Re: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide > The flood and reason for success, I didn't feel were that appealing as the > first 2. Some other guy plays violin and it didn't have the same feel as > when Simon was there. I think he plays 1 or 2 tracks on those. Does anyone > on here know if there was actually a cassette called HIGH TIDE 3? It was > listed in a discography and I wondered if it DID EXIST. STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephan Forstner [mailto:stemfors at PIPELINE.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:18 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: OFF: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide > > > Great news about the new Tony Hill album! But... > > > >... Forget those spurious out-takes and rehearsal albums with added > >drum machine that were put together in the eighties. This is the > >logical successor to the High Tide legacy... > > > The High Tide - Precious Cargo release (1970 rehearsals) is fantastic, > despite dodgy sound quality. I am certainly NOT going to forget about that. > Anyone who knows and admires the first two official releases should give > this one a try - its more melodic, less heavy, and Simon House's violin > playing is beautiful - in fact all the musicians are in great form. The > Interesting Times 80's reunion release DOES suffer from drum machines and > slick production, but still has some quite good material on it as well > (including versions of songs that appear on Precious Cargo). So, no amnesia > for these 2 titles at least... > There are also a bunch of '80s and '90s releases (Flood, Ancient Gates, > Reason of Success(?), etc.) that I haven't heard. Does anyone know what > these sound like? > Stephan From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jun 19 18:31:27 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:31:27 +0800 Subject: OFF :Omega Message-ID: Andy G wrote: > Actually, the band have recorded a whole stack of albums and are apparently > still going. We recently had a fair few of their Hungarian output at CD > Services, so if anyone would like a complete list, to which I do not have > access here, then e.mail me at: > agcdser at aol.com > and put 'Omega list' in the title box and I will e.mail it back to you with > any opinions where appropriate altho' I think Dave, who does their reviews, > didn't get through all of them. According to the website Andre introduced us too, they are still touring and releasing stuff. It looks like they're doing something similar to "The Weird Tapes." A three cd release or something. I'll have to have a proper read later.Glad to know you have some in stock Andy. Cheers Bill From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Tue Jun 19 19:49:40 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:49:40 -0400 Subject: This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic + Neu! Question Message-ID: >>...When I went to turn the record over to side 4 I realised I'd >>been listening to it on the wrong speed. So I upped it to 45 and >>listened again, but it wasn't as good! > >Also, try playing side 4 ("Watching the Grass Grow") at 33. Talk >about doom metal... Sabbath eat yer hearts out. The first time I did this it was by accident and it was the b-side of the Motorhead single Eat the Rich (Cradle to the Grave / Just Cos You've Got the Power...) It sounded quite good but the vocals come in fairly early and clued me in - still I went on and listened to the whole thing, Power in particular was doomy beyond belief and it has long instrumental stretches (unusual for MH) so the effect was very convincing. I spent the next few days playing all my singles at 33rpm to find more hidden goodies, but that one still sticks in my mind as the best. Also, as I'm sure everyone is aware, Neu!'s 2nd album (Neu! 2) has a second half consisting of various speed versions of tracks played at normal speed in the first half (plus a cassette-eating version too). I own the (illegal?) CDs from a few years back and I was wondering if the legit re-issues differ in any major way (besides hopefully giving the artists royalties). Stephan From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Jun 19 20:13:35 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:13:35 -0500 Subject: OFF: Scientist finds fungus that eats through compact discs Message-ID: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=001851641145319&rtmo=lzFklAlt&atmo=rrrrrrrq&pg=/et/01/6/18/wfung18.html Scientist finds fungus that eats through compact discs By Robert Uhlig, Technology Correspondent FIRST there was the computer virus. Now scientists have found a fungus that eats compact discs. Victor Cardenes, of Spain's leading scientific research body, stumbled across the microscopic creature two years ago, while visiting Belize. Friends complained that in the hot and sticky Central American climate, a CD had stopped working and had developed an odd discoloration that left parts of it virtually transparent. Dr Cardenes and colleagues at the Superior Council for Scientific Research in Madrid discovered a fungus was steadily eating through the supposedly indestructible disc. The fungus had burrowed into the CD from the outer edge, then devoured the thin aluminum layer and some of the data-storing polycarbonate resin. Dr Cardenes said: "It completely destroys the aluminum. It leaves nothing behind." Biologists at the council had never seen this fungus, but concluded that it belonged to a common genus called geotrichum. Philips, the Dutch electronics company that invented the compact disc, said it believed the Belize case was probably a freak incident caused by extreme weather conditions. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jun 19 20:20:09 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:20:09 -0400 Subject: This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic + Neu! Question Message-ID: >Also, as I'm sure everyone is aware, Neu!'s 2nd album (Neu! 2) has a second >half consisting of various speed versions of tracks played at normal speed >in the first half (plus a cassette-eating version too). I own the (illegal?) >CDs from a few years back and I was wondering if the legit re-issues differ >in any major way (besides hopefully giving the artists royalties). Reposted from the 'isi' Krautrock list, courtesy of Fred Mills, Associate Editor of Magnet Magazine. Grakkl (FAA) Someone asked if the Neu reissues were from master tapes; below is Rother's answer to that question when I posed it to him. (Note that he subtly misunderstood my use of the word "remixing". I meant remix in the way the Who remixed Who's Next for the latest reissues, while he took it to mean something along the lines of the Can multi-artist remix project.) After his answer is Dinger's reply. --Fred MAGNET: Tell me about the reissues themselves: have they been remastered from the original tapes, and was there any remixing involved? ROTHER: For the mastering we were able to use the original 2 track master tapes. Fortunately the master tapes have survived 30 years without any decrease in audio quality and still are in a perfect condition. Another lucky circumstance was that they had not been lost at the record company as has happened with the original artwork elements. Metronome returned the master tapes to me in 1996 shortly before this sub-company was shut down by Polygram (now Universal Music). As to the artwork we were able to reconstruct that from original vinyl copies which I had kept in my archives. Our aim is to re-release the original music and artwork on CD and vinyl in the highest possible quality but without changing the characteristics or the feeling of the originals. So far Klaus and I have not yet agreed on any remixing project. Quite a few musicians are in fact interested in doing remixes for us, some have already sent me their ideas but due to new controversies we decided to concentrate on the originals for the time being. Generally I am interested in hearing what other musicians nowadays come up with when they work on NEU! material but, of course, the release of the originals is our main goal. MAGNET: Tell me about the reissues themselves: have they been remastered from the original tapes, and was there any actual remixing involved? DINGER: Yes, four times. First Herbert Groenemeyer remastered the original master tapes at Metropolis, London, with Tim Young in October 2000. Michael praised the result; I couldn't. In February 2001 the second attempt was with John Cremer (ex-EMI) in his studio near Cologne. This time Michael and me and Herbert were there as consultants. I introduced Andreas Reiuse, of Kriedler (and La! Neu?) and Kazuyuki Onouchi, a young Japanese guy with whom I'm working together very closely on two La Dusseldorf productions, a Viva remix, and a new Japandorf, due the end of 2001. With the result of this attempt, nobody was pleased, so we (Neu!, Herbert, Andreas and Kazu) had our third attempt, at Metropolis with Tim Young; this was still in February. Which came very close, except for three titles, which Herbert and Tim slightly changed soon afterwards. The vinyl reissues won't be remastered -- they are 1:1 from the original tapes. Remixing, not yet, but we're talking about it. Kazu made an interesting experiment that everybody liked except Michael. Also, regarding new Neu! material, Herbert made a great offer, but Michael so far can't agree. From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Jun 19 22:33:01 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:33:01 -0700 Subject: explanation Message-ID: Stephen, My response would be that hawkwind picks up where Pink Floyd and just about everybody else left off. Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 3:00 AM Subject: explanation > I have a problem. This guy wants to know what HAWKWIND sounds like. I am at > a lose for words here. I don't even know where to start. Anyone here who can > come up with a brief discription, I would truly appreciate it. THANK YOU in > advance!!!! STEPHE From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 19 23:06:04 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:36:04 +0930 Subject: HW: official irc band chat Message-ID: Hi Arin - popped into irc chat last night - saw your name there - I said Hi and a few seconds later you disapeared - I knew I shoulda grabbed a mint :) Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:19 AM Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > > :Subject: Re: HW: official irc band chat > : > :Wouldn't Chicago be +7 hours from GMT? > : > > chicago is gmt -6, althought with daylight savings time, we may be at gmt > -5. > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jun 19 23:31:11 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:01:11 +0930 Subject: explanation Message-ID: Mine would be that Hawkwinds leaves every other band for smegg - theres just no substitute and the live shows - from my one experience - just unbelievable - unbelievable!!! Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Moody To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:03 PM Subject: Re: explanation > Stephen, > My response would be that hawkwind picks up where Pink Floyd and just about > everybody else left off. > Steve The Moonman > ----- Original Message ----- From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Jun 20 03:54:28 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 03:54:28 -0400 Subject: Donnington Rock & Blues: who goes there? Message-ID: Aah!. Boo hoo! So near and yet so far. Damn me for getting the digest:- ( I've already agreed to pull an overnighter for a colleague. But thank you so much for the kind offer. Z Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:07:50 +0100 From: Merrick Martin French Subject: Re: Donnington Rock & Blues: who goes there? stuart, if you can get to sheffield for earlyish thursday we'll give you a lift to donnington and back to sheffield on sunday if thats any help - no dogs, no babies though !! Julie and Merrick French From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Jun 20 03:56:41 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 03:56:41 -0400 Subject: OFF: Stonehenge 2001 - The Odyssey Continues Message-ID: The Solstice Experiment - June20th - All night ? 8pm-9am A unique collaboration between English Heritage (our govenment) & the community at large. A brave experiment in healing the past, & embracing our future After the ground breaking gathering at Stonehenge Solstice experiment 2000,English Heritage have agreed to allow full access for all to the stones again this year from 8pm on the night of the 20th June till 9am on the morning of the 21st ? This open access has been gained through years of delicate painstaking negotiations between English Heritage and interested parties in the community, we believe that there is a sincere desire for this ?free and open access to all? to continue and grow, but it is dependent on us to keep to the agreements that have been made (see terms of access) and to leave promptly without fuss at 9am. **IMPORTANT INFO ** This ?managed access? is anacoustic event, sound systems will be confiscated if any attempt is made to setup. Contrary to the rumours that have been circulating, there is NO LEGAL PARTY that has been sanctioned by the authorities, Both Wiltshire and Hampshire police have stated that there will be zero tolerance towards any attempt to setup an illegal party in either county. Please accept this situation so that we can continue with the journey toward more and more access to the stones. Dogs will not be allowed inthe area of the stones You are invited andencouraged to bring acoustic instruments and creative toys and projects toshare with the gathering. Bring warm and waterproof clothing . There will be food stands vegetarianand otherwise The terms of access can befound at http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/news-events/news/ExpandedResult.asp? Id=229 The actual solstice is around 8:30am on the 21st, the dawn around 4:00 am. Last year about 8000 of us danced and rejoiced all night in torrential rain, wewere self policed and it took only 40 police to be present throughout thegathering, and they mostly stood by and watched - this was a tremendous stepforward considering the history of this gathering - years of riot police andprohibition. www.thewarpexperience.org/stonehenge This step forward due to a tremendous amount of dedicated negotiation fromindividuals on all sides of the equation, with give and take from everyone throughthe truth and reconciliation commission for Stonehenge (TRC) http://www.greenleaf.demon.co.uk/trc.htm For the interactive Stonehenge peace egroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stonehengepeace We are moving into a new era- after a thousand yearsof war the human race is reaching beyond our scars, our pain, ourcynicism for the possibility that we can live together on this planet in a way that works for all of us. The "Summer Solstice Experiment" is ametaphor for our aspiration, and an exercise in bringing that possibility into three-dimensional reality. No matter what has come before, our future is created by the possibility that we embrace in the present moment. By embracing the optimum possibility for this Stonehenge event, we increase the likelihood of it beingsuccessful, adding one more grain of sand to the scales that hold the balance for our global future ? Remember at certain point, one grain of sand can tip the scales one way or the other, Your input right now may be that grain of sand. www,thewarpexperience.org/Stonehenge Soon to be www.infinitepossibility.org From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Tue Jun 19 13:09:50 2001 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:09:50 +0100 Subject: HW sightings In-Reply-To: <200106181835.OAA13072@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Anyone else see the programme on record collectors ("Vinyl") on UK Horizons last week? Some geezer with a blue Hawkwind's Galactic Tour t-shirt was featured, then later on someone showing off fold-out Space Ritual and Warrior sleeves. Okay, not very interesting, I know, but someone might care about such things! Dave From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jun 20 07:52:27 2001 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:52:27 -0000 Subject: Levitation Levitation Levitation !!! Message-ID: I totally agree mister,and it was Huw's guitar playing over Dave Brock's that tuned me in to a new way of life! Before I was into Punk in a big way and seeing Hawkwind live in '84 was a revelation!Levitation was my Revelation!YAD _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 20 08:05:10 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:35:10 +0930 Subject: Hey dudes - Hawkwind related irc time kadoodle? Message-ID: What is BST? british standard time? - :>} I need to work out the time difference Sorry for those receiving this message twice and even sorrier for those getting it in triplet Will you respect me in the morning? :} From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Jun 20 08:14:41 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:14:41 +0100 Subject: HW sightings Message-ID: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK wrote: > Anyone else see the programme on record collectors ("Vinyl") on UK Horizons > last week? Some geezer with a blue Hawkwind's Galactic Tour t-shirt was > featured, then later on someone showing off fold-out Space Ritual and > Warrior sleeves. Okay, not very interesting, I know, but someone might > care about such things! Anyone spot the snippet of 'Silver Machine' on C4's Banzai last night? It was during the game where two old ladies played chicken in electric mobility carts! Keef From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 20 08:25:19 2001 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:25:19 +0100 Subject: HW sightings/Banzai! Silver Machine Message-ID: Yes, that was very funny. Alan Davey has the complete series of Banzai! on video, which he subjected us too last time we visited. I almost choked from laughing so much for 3 hours, as I hadn't seen it before. Will bass player dare to speak in far eastern accent on Friday??? Place bet NOW!!!! Neil. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barton" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:14 PM Subject: Re: HW sightings > gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK wrote: > > > Anyone else see the programme on record collectors ("Vinyl") on UK Horizons > > last week? Some geezer with a blue Hawkwind's Galactic Tour t-shirt was > > featured, then later on someone showing off fold-out Space Ritual and > > Warrior sleeves. Okay, not very interesting, I know, but someone might > > care about such things! > > Anyone spot the snippet of 'Silver Machine' on C4's Banzai last night? > It was during the game where two old ladies played chicken in electric > mobility carts! > > Keef From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Jun 20 08:25:57 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:25:57 +0100 Subject: Hey dudes - Hawkwind related irc time kadoodle? Message-ID: "Mich at el B" wrote: > What is BST? > British Summer Time is between March and October of each year. In March clocks are set one hour forward of GMT at 1 am, and are re-set back to GMT in October at 2am. From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Wed Jun 20 09:10:27 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:10:27 -0400 Subject: OTHER: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide Message-ID: Since High Tide is the current topic, I just want to reminisce about how I discovered them. It was back around 1972 - 73, and I was taking Beginning Audio Production from what was then called the Television - Radio Department. (It's now Telecommunication.) We had to practice cueing up records and for practice material we had the rejects from the campus radio station, one of which was "Sea Shanties" by High Tide with the drawing of an old schooner on the cover. I was expecting it to be a collection of old sailing songs and was totally blown away when I heard the music. It reconfirmed my opinion of the intelligence of the radio station's staff that they would discard such a gem. (In fairness not all the DJs were bad guys. Dave Dimartino, who later went on to become editor of Creem was one of them. Dick Rosemont went on to start a great used record store called Flat Black & Circular and was the inadvertent source for the great Michigan Nuggets collection, although he did have a few lapses. One of his throwaways when he was culling the station's collection was Arzachel and he sold me a copy of Organisation's "Tone Float" as just another French import without realizing it was pre-Kraftwerk. (-8) John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 20 09:22:16 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:52:16 +0930 Subject: satisfy me you big ape lol ooops OFF Message-ID: sorry Anyone out there confirm for me is it now 2:15pm in the UK ? just so I dont wake up and discover the chatter is finished I'll be getting my shots in a minute - calm peace argggg ah thats better Mb From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Jun 20 09:37:08 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:37:08 +0100 Subject: OFF:Re: satisfy me you big ape lol ooops OFF Message-ID: "Mich at el B" wrote: > sorry > > Anyone out there confirm for me is it now > > 2:15pm in the UK ? > > just so I dont wake up and discover the chatter is finished This mail is going out at 2.37pm BST From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 20 11:29:15 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:29:15 +0100 Subject: IRC chat Message-ID: I gotta go see The Hobbit on stage so I'll miss this. I'd be grateful if someone could try to discover the time that Hawkwind will take the stage on Friday though. Cheers FoFP From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Wed Jun 20 11:39:19 2001 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (blueskin69) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:39:19 +0100 Subject: Donington Rock & Blues: who goes there? Message-ID: There are no buses from Derby to anywhere near the site you would have to get a taxi, hope this helps. Cheers. Gordon. Keith Barton wrote: > > So are us hawkfans meeting up in the beer tent or whatever? Should we > > collect mobile numbers to arrange a Conjunction of the Peers? > > I reckon I'm going to do the train/bus thing. > Would London -> Derby then catching a bus be the best bet? > If so which bus and where from? Any guidance will be gratefully received. > > Anyone else going from London? > > Keef > > P.S. Read in the paper this morning about enormous plagues of locusts causing > havoc around the globe - "The Greenfly & The Rose" or what?!! From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Wed Jun 20 11:44:54 2001 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (blueskin69) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:44:54 +0100 Subject: Donnington Rock & Blues: who goes there? Message-ID: Yes you can get tickets at the gate ?30 Cheers. Gordon. Michael Crook wrote: > Anyone know if you can pay at the gate? I'm still hoping to go. I also see the line up is on Mission Control - No Ron mentioned - just an omission or is he involved with his side projects? > > Mick > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Jun 20 11:52:16 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:52:16 +0100 Subject: Donington Rock & Blues: who goes there? Message-ID: blueskin69 wrote: > There are no buses from Derby to anywhere near the site you would have to get a > taxi, hope this helps. Thanks Gordon. Right then - Plan B - Hire car it is. Anyone going from North London want a lift? Keef From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Wed Jun 20 12:12:02 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:12:02 -0400 Subject: OFF: Neu! Question, isi Kratrock list Message-ID: Thanks for the info Grakkl, > >Reposted from the 'isi' Krautrock list... > I did a websearch and found instructions for joining this list: Send an e-mail to Majordomo at kuci.org with subscribe isi-digest in the body of the e-mail. I couldn't find any archives or other info though. I will try out this list anyway, but I would also be interested in what anyone else thinks of it. Stephan From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Wed Jun 20 12:26:22 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:26:22 EDT Subject: HW:Stonehenge...Who knows? Message-ID: Hi...If anyone out there lives in London / south East England Stonehenge is open tonight 8pm till 9am free to anyone....Just found out..If you know already please ignore this if you dont...you still got time to get there !!...Parking 1km from Stones, road by stones closed till 10 am next AM ...Anyone going ? See you there !! From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jun 20 12:41:34 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:41:34 EDT Subject: OTHER: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide Message-ID: In a message dated 6/19/01 4:04:01 PM, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: << Of the three, I'd say that 'Interesting Times' in the most melodic, 'High Tide' is the most psychedelic (with 3 extended tracks), and 'Sea Shanties' is the heaviest, but all are excellent. I'd describe the band as a post- Cream/Hendrix type heavy/acid rock trio, PLUS the addition of Simon House's violin. >> ====== well, anyway, to drop names... i got the 1st high tide LP sent from Jello Biafra [i hadnt heard of them] he characterized them as :"Sabbath fronted by Morrison", Cream/Hendrix didnt _at all_ come to mind pour moi. hey, where's that rmayo guy? i dunno if 'metallic' is the right, chronologically-appropriate word, but for their time high tide was unusually 'hard/heavy' ====== "<>" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 20 13:46:57 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:16:57 +0930 Subject: HW:Stonehenge...Who knows? Message-ID: I wish :} ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Ogilvy To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 1:56 AM Subject: HW:Stonehenge...Who knows? > Hi...If anyone out there lives in London / south East England Stonehenge is > open tonight 8pm till 9am free to anyone....Just found out..If you know > already please ignore this if you dont...you still got time to get there > !!...Parking 1km from Stones, road by stones closed till 10 am next AM > ...Anyone going ? > See you there !! From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Jun 20 14:25:31 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:25:31 -0500 Subject: HW: band irc chat transcript Message-ID: Hi folks, Once again, please forgive the lousy formatting on this. Rik will have up a nice one shortly up on MC. Thanks! Arin ps. In the meanwhile here it is: hi folks!! Hi all! Hi Magnu hi Collin hi all What are we waoting for ;-))))) oops WAITING I think others to turn up ;-)) No idea! Thought I'd just come in and hang around *grin* whew. coworkers finally left ;-) We've been doing enough time cjecks over the past few days to get a good idea of the timezones across the globe I mean checks cjecks sounds better:) indeed. timezones are frequently annoying. Well it probably does after a few beers collin LOL Hi DREAM Hey dreamworker. See you made it allo dreamworker Evening magnu, leftear, AriK and others Hi dreamworker I think Alissa will be joining us as well Hi Mike Hello? Oh wow! Hi Mike This is working? mike -- you made it? Hi Mike!!!! hi FOFP hi mike I'm a virgin at anyt5hing but Usenet yep, it's working ;-) welcome to the wonderful timewasting world of irc. So what else can I do but type text? 1L 2a 3u 4 5g 6h 7s 9O 8u 10t 13L 14o 15u 12d I remeber the first time I came in here I was like that as well FOFP Or this could all be an illusion Is there a way to send private backchat? What does +o mean? i'm trying to send you one at the moment FOFP mike: type /msg nick stuff and what does all that red and black text on the right mean? red text is a channel operator. black is normal user. folks, i believe that rik wants to run this as a moderated chat today. so what's a channel operator? He mentioned that a few days ago when those of us that were in last time asked him about that Sounds OK to me Good evening Hawkperson and Hawkbot See your in as well Hawkbot Can this pick up sound like Yahoo chat? Yo Hawkbot <^HawkBot^> arin watch the clones hiya rik. <^HawkBot^> hi hell forgot. yes Hi Hawkperson Hi hawkperson & hawkbot <^HawkBot^> hahaha rik: one of them is just logging. The other is using your mIRC client, in case anyone needs help (but is otherwise idle) So who's expected from the band? <^HawkBot^> the bot has clone kill set as auto - i'll turn it off Hi guest see you made it as well hello alan 90% of this conversation is totally lost on me! I know how u feel lol at mike! Looks like the weather should be good for Fri's gig colin you're not the only one. Anybody tries to talk teccy with me my brain just wants to go into a corner and cry hullo gromit. hi Gromit. Well the room is filling up now Perhaps I should have made one of my teccies stay here with me to translate! There's not room to swing a cat <^HawkBot^> woops hello everyone what's happened rik <^HawkBot^> the bot has loads of channle protect stuff set - i gotta turn it all off Oh. Ah, some nice Spiral Realms on the CD player, a glass of wine and Hawkwind people, what could be better? Looks like talking unix there Lots of money in the Bank collin being at a HW concert ;-) That will happen on Friday ArinK:) FoFP: I, at least, am a unix geek by trade. I still read muy mail in unix True Left! * ArinK is excessively jealous at everyone going to Donnington. errrmmm...what is unix? hiya keef! which is why all that HTML tagging on the list drives me demented * ArinK does as well. hi Keef glad you could make it Hi keef! Hi Keef! Hey! This is Earth calling....... Whooooo! Hi Dave hello dave-the-hat Hi Dave hi all * ArinK agrees with FoFP about html tagging Hi Dave the Hat! hello paul. Hey Spacerock see you made it Hi Spacerock! Anyone see Spiral Realms when they supported Nik Turner in the US in 1995? Hopefully I have the right time Hi Paul If not we will all look a bit stupid Paul where are you spacerock? I'm in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia On the Trail of The Lonesome Pine? on the trail of the lonesome pine by any chance? 1L 2a 3u 4 5g 6h 7s 9O 8u 10t 13L 14o 15u 12d you serious spacerock? <^HawkBot^> on the trail... lol Have I missed anything yet?????? <^HawkBot^> band will be in in 2 mins The aliens landed, but then left again Yes, on the trail, but losing to the Gypsy moths. :-) Not yet Lucid Locusts you mean? The US has floods and plagues of locusts apparently plan & cause or planet cores? No, the scourge right now is Gypsy moths. Makes the Blue Ridge Parkway look like forest fires have hit. hullo hawkwindfish That's what you get when you elect Bush! Hey Hawkwindfish see you made it as well hi Arin ? Hi fish! wouldn't miss it for the world hi Magnu Pardon spacerock? Well I heard that Lucidsound 1L 2a 3u 4 5g 6h 7s 9O 8u 10t 13L 14o 15u 12d what's that all about? Hi Sonic! hi sonic Hello sonicassassin hiya sonic hi sonic Just testing... That was worth waiting for, LucidSound How did you do that Lucid? We do try our best, old boy. Hello Hawks Hello Hawkperson hi Hawkperson hullo hawkperson Hi hawkperson!!!! <^HawkBot^> fast fingers hi hawkperson <^HawkBot^> pow hiya Hello Hawkperson(s) keep talking folks ;-) This is Earth calling........ Why Arin. you on an ISP package like me? Ich weiss nicht was ich sagen solle Hello Keef...ARAB!! mich auch The Magic Theatre's that way mate -> Und Warum ist das spacerock? leftear: hmmmm? Salaam aleykum Hi RX Que? Hello Folks hi RX Hi Rx Hi rx hi hawkpeople. Thats better Hello then Hawkpeople Welcome to the future hi hawkpeople Damn. Just got this going and I gotta go see a Hobbit Anyone going on Friday? Yo Ande dude! hi ande Hi ande hi magnu yup! hi ande. have a good time at the hobbit, mike. Yes me! So how about a meet at the beer tent at 7.00? I'll be the loud Scottish guy (as usual) Well LucidSounds will be there... sounds good hey mike Welcome to the living Undead Will wear the BOC-L t-shirt and a Woody Creek Tavern baseball cap what up ande hehehe I will probably only get there about 8:30-9:00 hullo undead-c Hello Ron here ah. Or catch me in the beer tent after the gig Yo Ron hello ron. hi Ron chat yeah talk oh oh yeahy whew <^HawkBot^> PLEASE NOTE: THE CHANNEL WILL NOW BE SET TO MODERATED, EACH PERSON WILL GET A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT OTHERS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO WRITE TO THE CHANNEL WHILE IT IS IN THIS MODE. Are you bringing your scroll again on Friday? Chitty chatter chomp ? <^HawkBot^> Arin: YOU HAVE FIRST QUESTION > On behalf of FoFP who had to leave....do you happen to know when Hawkwind takes the stage on Friday at Donnington? Yes 9.30 pm > thanks! <^HawkBot^> ok colinjallen Hi hawkpeople. Is there any news on the AStoria CD? Jerry is now here too1 Hi Jerry! hi jerry. <^HawkBot^> Hi hawkpeople. Is there any news on the AStoria CD? Th artwork is being completed - any questions for Alan & Simon as they have to leave soon <^HawkBot^> ok keef what's your question(s) Simon, any cahnce of you playing some Spiral Realms gigs soon? So.. you like Banzai! Alan are you now a permanent member ? What's the latest with the summer camp? I'm looking for an Agent Alan - yes I am Hooray! GREAT!!! Summercamp: foot and mouth delayed it Is the World tour happing next year? And is a new album being released to accompany the tour? Any clues as to who the guests are on Friday? <^HawkBot^> hawkwindfish: you have voice What the guest list? no the special guests is the world tour happening next year and is an album being released to accompany the tour? We are optimistic on world tour Simon: Any chance to see you play CHRONOGLIDE SKYWAY with Hawkwind ?? What the special backstage guests <^HawkBot^> DREAMWORKER: you have voice Not this time, come to SR gig He means 'who is guesting on stage with hawkwind' Will Lemmy be showing up? No Lemmy, guest list too big Thanks. I'd like to echo hawkwindfish's question about a new album. Anything planned over and above the Astoria live album? There is a plan in motion for a studio album Cheers. <^HawkBot^> Elric: you can ask a question any news on the Aussie tour justt woke up blink blink Here present are...Simon, Jerry, Huw, Alan, Ron No, can you organise it...Ron says its a long way to get sent back! <^HawkBot^> -=? 13Leftearmissing ?=-: you have voice hi all is the Newcastle gig a definite or a maybe? YES - you can stay at my place ok!!?? <^HawkBot^> GinGoblin: you have voice mayeb been covered already, but what about some Scottish dates??!! Pretty definite, phone the promoter for details and tell him you are looking forward to it...tell everyone to phone the promoter! it';s bonny up ere! Any chance for some gigs in Germany ? I also am getting the impresssion that a Summer Camp has been put off for this year at least. Scottish gigs maybe, German gigs waiting to here <^HawkBot^> ok guset - you have access Summer camp too expensive, winter camp would be cheaper whats the word there? Winter camp would be colder though. Thermals on standby can i just say that you are all stars. I'll look forward to seeing you in Scotland if you make it. I have photos of you at leeds, would you like copies?? Yes, what sort of photographs? photos taken from the front of the stage. I was providing part of the light show during the encore? There's a few rockin shots We would like to see photographs Cheers, hawkpeople, I'll arrange for them to go to the Hawkmerchandise address Ok? Jerry: Wonderfull guitar playing during the OZ tour !!! Why didn't you do that this way again in March/April ? Any last questions for Simon as he is leaving now? simon: any chance we'll be seeing some more spiral realms sometime soon? Will Bertie be there? Are you a permanent member now SIMON ?? Yes more SR Who's Bertie? dont you mean WHOIS bertie ;-) Bertie not here No, its WHATIS Bertie! ? Permanent member, Bertie not hi folks -- dave-the-hat, guest, keef, and sonic assassin currently have voice. any idea for the line up at newcastle gig any thig special planned Will there be any new songs on Friday? We always have something special up our sleeves, come to gig and see what it is undead-c now has voice I'll be there no prob about that thanks, just listening in hello everyone Simon gone <^HawkBot^> woopsie Last questions for Ron and Jerry? <^HawkBot^> the channel is set open now Plans for the future? when are the pigs gonna let bands play at stonehenge again? Who will be playing on the new studio album?? Simon? Huw? Ron and Jerry off to Stonehenge Any more Paradogs releases coming out soon? Is anyone going to Stonehenge tonight? I wish ah, lucky lucky people! Other than the druids Keef? good for them! I express jealousy.... JERRY: What is your favorite HAWKWIND gig ? me too no releases scheduled at the moment but we working on new stuff, thanks to all who bought record welcome back colm. Has any new material been written for the new studio album. This lineup has enormous potential whats the feel on the new studio album - juicy goss? Jerry says there hasn't been one yet what sorta bribe should i offer fer you t' do PARADOX live??? ;) LOL had a few probs with mirc, sorted now though! Hi everyone! Bye bye from Ron and Jerry bye heroes sincerely bye ron an jerry! hawkpeople, what're you rehearsing just now? Have a great time tonight! bye bye Ron, Jerry. Have fun at Stonehenge! Tell Huw we are still trying to find him a hat. Bye Ron and Jerry. Look after yourselves now OK Brilliant new songs in the can, all will be new have fun for me Hey Huw - When are you playing the Fox, Rattle & Hum again? <^HawkBot^> hey I got a gr8 pic of him in your hat hawkpeople: any further detail on the silliness with Brixton not paying you? I must see that pic! Who is playing on the new songs in the can so far? <^HawkBot^> hang on Huw...no F,R and Hum again..1 year was enough! All people who were at Astoria on new album Huw: Any London gigs? Still fighting for justice * ArinK expresses sympathy over lack of justice. No solid London gigs oplanned yet for Huw, kreep looking at website Dave here now too Hawkpeople - who is the talent on the new studio album? Huw gonna be there? <^HawkBot^> CHANNEL REMODERATED When will the Astoria CD be released? Exact date PLEASE!! Hi Dave! Hello Davce Dave Huw will be there :} Hawks: who is the talent on the new studio album gonna be? Huw?? hi Dave. Dave any plans for a solo project for the future? Ask Voiceprint about Astoria Thanks Hawkbot! Is this a joke ? Hi Dave, What's your current guitar & amp setup? Do you still use that Coloursound Wah? Yes solo by Dave in september DAVE: What about other releases like ATOMEHENGE 76. Maybe from 1975 or 1977 ? Dave you ever going to take the agents of chaos on the road again? Have not used that since 1970 something or other, otherwise same guitar and amp used for the last 10 years No more agents of Chaos Does Hawkwind have an official policy towards audience fan taping and trading of live shows (strictly noncommercial)? It seems it would give the band great exposure Yes Huw on new album thats a shame! also this keeps getting asked but how about re-releasing the charisma material? Dave... any chance of Paradox being resurrected for the live set?? Unfortunately taping puts off major record labels from doing deals with us one of my all time faves y'see Seems like the free promos would make them happy :-) Doug Smith has Charisma tapes, so I have no idea No Paradox What will be the next official release?? Lots of bands like Phish have become massive on the backs of tapers and traders, and the major labels have reaped the rewards Question for Hawkpeople: Would you look favourably on a Hawkwind tribute band? Phish were not established before There are a few...as long as its not Nik Turner no i wasn't thinking of inviting nik turner 1L 2a 3u 4 5g 6h 7s 9O 8u 10t 13L 14o 15u 12d Last questions, still here, Alan, Huw, Dave Question for Dave Brock: Which of the early albums were mixed under the influence of LSD? DAVE: Which HAWKWIND period is your favorite/least favorite ? 1st, 2nd and 3rd impossible to answer thanks Leaving in couple of minutes Bye bye all Hawkpeople leaving hope to see you in Australia next year Please do a great git at DONNIGTON !!!! i'm goin too... just wanna say thanks for the great music over and the years, and i look forward to seeing you live soon! Is Alan on the new album? Thanks HAWKWIND!!! Dave et al, you are an inspiration!. Sad to say I sometimes get emotional when I see you play. Dave & all you are heroes to us all - see ya soon whereever it may be BYE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bye Bye! bye bye bye! bye hawpeople thanks! Thankyou HAWKWIND!!!! encore now unmoderated. thanks guys! cheers! :-) see ya bye the audience turns to leave. No more coats etc out and intake! hooray!!!! bye Hawkpeople Bye Keef, we're off now... arin will you post a transcipt for us johhny-come-latelies? See ya on Friday! HAWKWIND HAWKWIND HAWKWIND HAWKWIND yes, I will. See ya Huw - look forward to the new album i just logged on. can we start over? Later Keith!!! I'll await the log sheet thing - an HOUR laait arrrg who's getting the beers in? so what was the goss in the first hour people? Michael B. -- I've got a log of what was said. I'll post it soon. bye hawkfolks! Ive got some herb but itll be hard to share Off to get some scran now... thanks Arin - you are a gem!!! * ^HawkBot^ sets mode: +coffee Hi Bernhard just got back in time to ask my question...phew! hi Michael! me too ali popped moments before you Bernhard - I set my alarms an hour too late - mein gott!!! :} how are ya mate? aha now i know who is michael b Ali: Check your e-mail!!!! where's Michael B? Arin I'm (Mark) on now thanks to your help ok bernhard Michael B here the one with all the witty questions umm Wonder if they're going to do the same stunt as they did last time and hang around to see what we're saying? mark! nice to see that you made it! How about that - ehy - Huw on the new album - outta sight owwwww did they do that leftear? they did last time. The words bar stewards sort of lept to mind then ok who said dave anderson should be reinstated? I guess I'll have to wait for the transcript to see what transpired Who is going to Donnington, and who will tape this gig ???? but at least you made it now...... <^HawkBot^> transcript will be up in an hour or so Yeah, I'm pretty amazed ...and will be posted soon. IRC log ended Wed Jun 20 13:15 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From ChStier at AOL.COM Wed Jun 20 15:33:26 2001 From: ChStier at AOL.COM (Chris Stier) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:33:26 EDT Subject: Off: My Trip To New York City Message-ID: Hi folks, I early July I'll be heading out to New York City for about a week. I was hoping those of you who live there could give me some tips on great record stores, book stores, pubs / bars and other items of interest that shouldn't be missed. I'll be staying near Central Park on 98th. Please reply off list. Thanks! Chris chstier at aol.com From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jun 20 17:02:24 2001 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:02:24 -0400 Subject: BOC/Brain: "To Helen With Love" available now In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The Helen Wheels Tribute record is in stock ahead of schedule. The quickest way to get it is to go to cellsum.com and order online from the merch page. Because we're going on the road in two weeks there might be a delay in any orders we get during those three weeks we're away. It will be in record stores but the stores won't get it for at least another three weeks. From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed Jun 20 17:42:06 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:42:06 -0400 Subject: HW: IRC Chat Transcript up on MC Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS: An edited transcript of tonight's IRC HawkChat is up on Mission Control - link via updates www.hawkwind.org.uk MESSAGE ENDS++ From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Jun 20 20:45:10 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:45:10 -0400 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: H.Weels disc listing Message-ID: to futher whet your appetite and stir your capitalist urges, here's the lowdown from cellsum.com: Cellsum Records is especially proud to offer To Helen With Love, featuring the first studio reunion of Buck Dharma, Albert and Joe Bouchard in two decades. Many other B?C collaborators, rock legends and dear friends contributed heart and soul to this homage to a great talent: The Brain Surgeons, The Dictators, Sandy Roeser, Neal Smith and Dennis Dunaway of Alice Cooper, Jack Secret, Jack Rigg, Crispin Cioe, Felice Rosser, Skeleton Crew, Tish and Snooky. All profits from this project will go to animal charities. 1. Helen Wheels - 00:33 (HD Manitoba) Handsome Dick Manitoba: vocal 2. Lover's Loan - 02:55 (Wheels, A Bouchard) published by Barking Bush Music; Felice Rosser: vocal; Scott Kempner: lead guitar; Crispin Cioe: sax; Buck Dharma: rhythm guitar; Joe Bouchard: bass; Albert Bouchard: drums 3. Sinful Love - 03:37 (Wheels, A Bouchard) published by Sony ATV Tunes; Deborah Frost: bass; Crispin Cioe: Saxes; Adny Shernoff: harmony vocal; Tish and Snooky: harmony vocals; David Hirschberg: guitar; Albert Bouchard: vocal, drums, guitar 4. Elle Sol - 03:28 (Wheels, J Bouchard) published by Joe Bouchard Music; Buck Dharma: vocals, guitar; Joe Bouchard: bass; Tommy Mandel: piano, organ; Albert Bouchard: drums, slide guitar 5. Niagara Falls - 04:12 (Wheels, Morrongiello) published by 2helenback Music; Deborah Frost: vocals, bass; David Hirschberg: guitars, vocals; Albert Bouchard: drums, vocals 6. Will to Survive - 03:32 (Wheels, J Bouchard) published by Joe Bouchard Music; Jack Secret: vocals; Joe Bouchard: guitar, bass; Albert Bouchard: drums, guitar, harmonica 7. Fallen Angel - 04:38 (Wheels, J Bouchard) published by Sony ATV Tunes; Joe Bouchard: vocals, guitar; Dennis Dunaway: bass; Neal Smith: drums; Matt Smith: slide guitar 8. Room to Rage - 03:24 (Wheels, R Aaronson) published by 2helenback Music; Jack Secret: vocal; Adny Shernoff: second vocal; Deborah Frost: bg vocal; David Hirschberg: bg vocal; Ross the Boss: lead guitar; Joe Bouchard: guitar, bass; Albert Bouchard: drums, bg vocal 9. Hero - 03:33 (Wheels, A Bouchard, M Barkan) published by Pam-Bar Ltd / Barking Bush Music; Sandy Roeser: vocals; Buck Dharma: guitars, vocals; Joe Bouchard: bass; Albert Bouchard: drums 10. St. Vitus - 03:54 (Wheels, A Bouchard, D Frost) published by Barking Bush Music; Deborah Frost: vocals, guitars; David Hirschberg: bass, vocals; Albert Bouchard: drums, vocals 11. Goodbye Joe - 03:04 (Wheels, J Bouchard) published by Joe Bouchard Music; Jack Rigg: vocal, lead guitar; Buck Dharma: rhythm guitar; Tommy Mandel: piano; Joe Bouchard: bass; Albert Bouchard: drums 12. As I Bleed - 04:41 (Wheels, Draheim, Shayler); Cathi Lee Otis: vocals; Kim Draheim: guitar ; Ron Shayler: bass; Bob Birmingham: drums 13. Chimes of Freedom - 04:22 (Bob Dylan) published by Warner Bros Music; Scott Kempner: guitar, vocal; Deborah Frost: bass, vocals; Albert Bouchard: tambourine, mandocaster, vocals From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Jun 21 03:43:27 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:43:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Solstice Message-ID: Solstice is at 10.00am BST today. Everybody go Aauuuuummmm........ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 21 04:31:15 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:31:15 +0100 Subject: Off: My Trip To New York City In-Reply-To: Chris Stier's message of Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:33:26 EDT Message-ID: Chris Stier writes: > Hi folks, > > I early July I'll be heading out to New York City for about a week. I was hoping those of you who live there could give me some tips on great record stores, book stores, pubs / bars and other items of interest that shouldn't be missed. I'll be staying n> ear Central Park on 98th. Our Humble Moderator knows a great Italian restaurant. Well worth the visit if you get the chance. FoFP From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Jun 21 04:59:27 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:59:27 +0100 Subject: OFF:Re:Solstice Message-ID: Aaaaauuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............... From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 21 05:20:46 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:50:46 +0930 Subject: HW: Solstice Message-ID: kennnnnnn baaarrrrllllooooowwww not original - but hey? ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:13 PM Subject: HW: Solstice > Solstice is at 10.00am BST today. > > Everybody go Aauuuuummmm........ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 21 05:23:16 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:53:16 +0930 Subject: mike coleman Message-ID: Starting to worry about Mike C - Out of 45 emails today none were from Mike anyone know if he's ok? Michael B From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jun 21 08:24:36 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:24:36 +0100 Subject: Happy Solstice Everyone! Message-ID: 14,000 PEOPLE CELEBRATE SOLSTICE AT STONEHENGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALI ALI ALI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARTHURMIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KEN BARLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! THE WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF YOUR MINDS. From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Jun 21 08:23:42 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 05:23:42 -0700 Subject: This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic Message-ID: Hey Guys, Try the Gray Metallic Disc a so called 45 speed 10 inch record (it has PXR5, 25 Years and It's Only The Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid on 33 speed. I still prefer Dead Dreams at 33, and used to love to torture a vicious ex-roommate by waking her up with it - such a perfect fit for the feeling I felt when she entered the room. Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 4:49 AM Subject: Re: This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic > ejobson wrote: > > > Daves vocals made you feel instantly stoned at 33rpm though, didn't they? > > I was stoned already - that's why it was on 33!! > > Keef From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 21 09:33:59 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:03:59 +0930 Subject: Happy Solstice Everyone! Message-ID: Did you attend Stonehenge Daniel? ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Jackson To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 9:54 PM Subject: Happy Solstice Everyone! > 14,000 PEOPLE CELEBRATE SOLSTICE AT > STONEHENGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > ALI ALI ALI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > ARTHURMIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > KEN BARLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! > > THE WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF YOUR MINDS. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Jun 21 11:27:42 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:27:42 EDT Subject: OFF: Neu! Question, isi Kratrock list Message-ID: In a message dated 6/20/01 8:58:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, stemfors at PIPELINE.COM writes: > I did a websearch and found instructions for joining this list: > Send an e-mail to Majordomo at kuci.org with > subscribe isi-digest > in the body of the e-mail. I couldn't find any archives or other info > though. I will try out this list anyway, but I would also be interested in > what anyone else thinks of it. > Stephan surprisingly little activity. though if you ask a question, you'll usually get a few answers and maybe even a conversation. The people are knowledgable. But all told i get an average of one message per day, if that. I'm also a little disappointed with the spacerockers list, about the same amount of traffic. definitely taught me not to take boc-l for granted... Chuck From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Jun 21 11:42:04 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:42:04 -0500 Subject: OFF: Neu! Question, isi Kratrock list Message-ID: The OZRICSODDITIES list is about the same. I signed up a couple weeks ago and have only gotten 3 messages. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Rosenberg [mailto:Chuckrecs at AOL.COM] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:28 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Neu! Question, isi Kratrock list In a message dated 6/20/01 8:58:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, stemfors at PIPELINE.COM writes: > I did a websearch and found instructions for joining this list: > Send an e-mail to Majordomo at kuci.org with > subscribe isi-digest > in the body of the e-mail. I couldn't find any archives or other info > though. I will try out this list anyway, but I would also be interested in > what anyone else thinks of it. > Stephan surprisingly little activity. though if you ask a question, you'll usually get a few answers and maybe even a conversation. The people are knowledgable. But all told i get an average of one message per day, if that. I'm also a little disappointed with the spacerockers list, about the same amount of traffic. definitely taught me not to take boc-l for granted... Chuck From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Thu Jun 21 15:39:18 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:39:18 +0200 Subject: sale trade In-Reply-To: <002501c0fa56$d4514040$90cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: hello i'm cleaning out some music out of my collection. make me an offer on any of these (rare) items. take a look at http://home.wanadoo.nl/cosmos/sale-trade.htm andre From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jun 21 15:51:47 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:51:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Solstice In-Reply-To: <004901c0fa33$74add7c0$4bcb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: In article <004901c0fa33$74add7c0$4bcb223f at michaelangelo68>, Mich at el B writes >kennnnnnn baaarrrrllllooooowwww > >not original - but hey? ken barlooooooooooooooowwwwwww! -- Jon From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Jun 21 18:39:52 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Timothy E Elliott) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:39:52 -0400 Subject: OFF: Neu! Question, isi Kratrock list Message-ID: you want a pile of stuff,sign up for `overnight sensation'the motorhead letter list,get a giant e-mail once a week...lots of weird people.lotta fun to read,and occasionally respond to.e-mail Stephen Lindas wrote: > > The OZRICSODDITIES list is about the same. I signed up a couple weeks ago > and have only gotten 3 messages. STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Rosenberg [mailto:Chuckrecs at AOL.COM] > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:28 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: Neu! Question, isi Kratrock list > > > In a message dated 6/20/01 8:58:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > stemfors at PIPELINE.COM writes: > > > I did a websearch and found instructions for joining this list: > > Send an e-mail to Majordomo at kuci.org with > > subscribe isi-digest > > in the body of the e-mail. I couldn't find any archives or other info > > though. I will try out this list anyway, but I would also be interested > in > > what anyone else thinks of it. > > Stephan > > surprisingly little activity. though if you ask a question, you'll usually > get a few answers and maybe even a conversation. The people are > knowledgable. > But all told i get an average of one message per day, if that. > I'm also a little disappointed with the spacerockers list, about the same > amount of traffic. definitely taught me not to take boc-l for granted... > > Chuck From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Jun 21 19:16:37 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:16:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: Neu! Question, isi Kratrock list Message-ID: goddamn Krautrockers - all facts no fun!!! Andy G (Krautrocker with attitude) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Rosenberg" To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:27 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Neu! Question, isi Kratrock list > In a message dated 6/20/01 8:58:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > stemfors at PIPELINE.COM writes: > > surprisingly little activity. though if you ask a question, you'll usually > get a few answers and maybe even a conversation. The people are knowledgable. > But all told i get an average of one message per day, if that. > I'm also a little disappointed with the spacerockers list, about the same > amount of traffic. definitely taught me not to take boc-l for granted... > > Chuck From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Jun 22 05:25:45 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:25:45 -0400 Subject: OFF: Neu! Question, isi Kratrock list Message-ID: Or go to Yahoo Groups and sign up for the Motorhead list co-moderated by yours truly http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MOTORHEAD/join Z Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:39:52 -0400 From: Timothy E Elliott Subject: Re: OFF: Neu! Question, isi Kratrock list you want a pile of stuff,sign up for `overnight sensation'the motorhead letter list,get a giant e-mail once a week...lots of weird people.lotta fun to read,and occasionally respond to.e-mail Stephen Lindas wrote: From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Fri Jun 22 07:58:26 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:58:26 -0400 Subject: OFF: O'Connor and Hooker Message-ID: Sad day - caroll o' connor and john lee hooker have passed away. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jun 22 08:42:29 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:42:29 EDT Subject: OFF: Hooker and O'Connor Message-ID: In a message dated 6/22/01 7:58:41 AM, GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US writes: << caroll o' connor and john lee hooker have passed away. >> ===== together again for the last time! == genuine childhood memories, circa '71 of lying in bed w/ the radio listening to the 15 min version of "boogie chillun #2" he did, backed by canned heat on the 'hooker and heat' lp life determining stuff, ah tell you. "<>" From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jun 22 08:45:21 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:45:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:28:08 +0100, Nick Medford wrote: I did however get a cheap single CD >called "Where The Power Is" which claims to be the definitive guide to >Magazine, although doubtless there'll now be a deluge of mails explaining >why this claim is false... haven't played it yet. Well, I have now. The first half-dozen or so tracks are superb. Astonishing, in fact. And "The Light Pours Out Of Me" has to be one of the best song titles ever. It goes downhill a bit thereafter, and it's interesting to note that the later tracks are the ones that sound a bit dated. It's also odd that it includes nothing at all from the album "Play" which several people have cited as their best. Perhaps I'll get that next. Any thoughts from those who responded earlier? From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jun 22 08:55:01 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:55:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree at Shepherd's Bush Empire Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:50:43 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: > I've noticed that every PT fan seems to like one but not the other >of the two pop albums; as I've said I prefer LS I may have been a little harsh on LS, you are right in saying "Hatesong" is a very strong track, I had sort of overlooked that on the first few listens, but yeah it's good... there are still some atrocious tracks on that album though IMHO. BTW as regards "Stupid Dream", I don't know why I said "Baby Dream" was a standout track, I was getting it mixed up with "A Smart Kid". The first bit of Baby Dream, with the treated vocals, reminds me of Aoxomoxoa-era Dead though, which is a (reasonably) good thing. I actually quite like "Stop Swimming" too... one would need a heart of stone not to laugh at the maudlin self-pity of some recent PT lyrics but that song doesn't strike me as the worst offender... From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jun 22 09:01:28 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:01:28 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree at Shepherd's Bush Empire In-Reply-To: <200106221255.IAA03904@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:50:43 +0100, Jon Jarrett > wrote: > > > I've noticed that every PT fan seems to like one but not the other > >of the two pop albums; as I've said I prefer LS Except me. I rather like them both equally. > BTW as regards "Stupid Dream", I don't know why I said "Baby Dream" was a > standout track, I was getting it mixed up with "A Smart Kid". The first bit > of Baby Dream, with the treated vocals, reminds me of Aoxomoxoa-era Dead > though, which is a (reasonably) good thing. I actually quite like "Stop > Swimming" too... one would need a heart of stone not to laugh at the > maudlin self-pity of some recent PT lyrics but that song doesn't strike me > as the worst offender... > Exactly. I rather like "Stop Swimming" in the same way I rather like, oh, I don't know, the version of "Hurry on Sundown" on Early Daze, or pink hair extensions - it's a self-indulgent, matters not what you think thing :) Kirsten -- Kirsten Procter ghoti NP: Hawkwind - Early Daze From doremi at KEEPAHOLD.COM Fri Jun 22 11:15:17 2001 From: doremi at KEEPAHOLD.COM (Dave H) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:15:17 +0100 Subject: HW: Newcastle Concert In-Reply-To: <3B31A59F.E816C3EB@cinesite.co.uk> Message-ID: Looks like the Newcastle Concert if definitely on. The Newcastle Opera House is Advertising the concert in the Evening Chronicle (Newcastle's Local Paper) The Newcastle Opera House Westgate Road NE1 4AG Tel: (0191) 2320899 Fax (0191) 2611735 Wednesday 14th November ?12.50/15.50 http://www.newcastleoperahouse.com -- Dave H From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jun 22 10:28:04 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:28:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree Message-ID: >On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:50:43 +0100, Jon Jarrett > wrote: > >> I've noticed that every PT fan seems to like one but not the other >>of the two pop albums; as I've said I prefer LS Put me down as a Stupid Dream supporter, even though I have serious problems with the way it was (over) produced. Good songs though, just not always performed/recorded/mixed in the way I would have liked. The live shows were excellent though! OTOH, LS just sits there for me. "Russia on Ice" was a major disappointment, a couple cool passages but not interesting overall. The tracks I liked were the ones that were left off (like "Ambulance Chasing"), so now that Recordings is out, perhaps I'll like that better. Grakkl (FAA) From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jun 22 12:17:16 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:17:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer In-Reply-To: <200106221245.IAA03766@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200106221245.IAA03766 at listserv.spc.edu>, Nick Medford writes >The first half-dozen or so tracks are superb. Astonishing, in fact. And >"The Light Pours Out Of Me" has to be one of the best song titles ever. > >It goes downhill a bit thereafter, and it's interesting to note that the >later tracks are the ones that sound a bit dated. > >It's also odd that it includes nothing at all from the album "Play" which >several people have cited as their best. Perhaps I'll get that next. Any >thoughts from those who responded earlier? only that "the Light.." is from Real Life, their first, which is the best IMO. I really would get that first. Magic LP. Then Secondhand Daylight. You can take it or leave it after that, but the first two are a triumph, especially considering the context i.e. what you were "allowed" to do or not in 1979. Prog punk. An act not many pulled off. Listening to it again the other day, it's funny but they remind me more of Alex Harvey than anyone else these days, which was definitely not the case until recently. Brilliant lyrics, eh? Has your comp got Great Beautician In The Sky on it? BTW Bauhaus covered "Light". Managed to make it sound histrionic and OTT. heh. I saw Magazine live once, they were unreal. They were supported by an unsigned band from Glasgow called Simple Minds, who were actually pretty good at the time, although they owed a little bit to X-Ray Spex early on. Sniff. Kids today etc. -- Jon From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jun 22 14:23:10 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:23:10 -0400 Subject: OFF: reissue problems Message-ID: Here's a link to an interesting article about the loss of invaluable material from record company vaults due to various circumstances. Hawkwind fans can sympathise and visualise _Warrior..._ in this unfortunate scenario... http://www.chezmarianne.com/bholland/words/vault.html You never miss the water until the well runs dry. Cheers, Paul. NP: Blue Oyster Cult, _Curse of the Hidden Mirror_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jun 22 14:36:42 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:36:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: reissue problems In-Reply-To: ; from paul@GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 02:23:10PM -0400 Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 02:23:10PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: > [...] the loss of invaluable > material from record company vaults due to various circumstances. Re. disintegrating tapes, and more to the point, how to fix them, see: http://www.josephson.com/bake_tape.html http://www.wendycarlos.com/news.html#baketape -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Jun 22 14:41:42 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:41:42 -0400 Subject: A fan Message-ID: According to an e-mail conversation I have just had with a Yes fan from San Francisco Jello Biafra (ex Dead Kennedys, green party presidential candidate) is a big hawkwind fan. go figure. Mike -- ___________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1/ corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill From bart at ENGAGE.NU Fri Jun 22 14:55:06 2001 From: bart at ENGAGE.NU (Bart Brugmans) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:55:06 +0200 Subject: HW: Re: A fan In-Reply-To: <3B339166.88D4A19D@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: Thats cool! > Jello Biafra (ex Dead Kennedys, green party > presidential candidate) is a big hawkwind fan. And of course there are a lot Hawkwind fans who are also Dead Kennedys fans :) Bart (Who unfortunately missed Jello Biafra performing in Gothenburg) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 22 14:59:09 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 04:29:09 +0930 Subject: OFF: reissue problems Message-ID: I have a question and it would help upgrade my Hawkwind knowledge greatly Q- are you saying the record company lost the master tapes to Warrior? The reel to teel multitracks? Thanks Learning ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Mather To: Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 3:53 AM Subject: OFF: reissue problems > Here's a link to an interesting article about the loss of invaluable > material from record company vaults due to various circumstances. > Hawkwind fans can sympathise and visualise _Warrior..._ in this > unfortunate scenario... > > http://www.chezmarianne.com/bholland/words/vault.html > > You never miss the water until the well runs dry. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > NP: Blue Oyster Cult, _Curse of the Hidden Mirror_ > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jun 22 14:58:07 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:58:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Greasy Truckers revisited? Message-ID: I just found this announced on the Way Ahead mailing list. Anyone know what's involved here? http://www.wayahead.com/tixonlinemaj/event.asp?e|artist=greasy+truck ers+party&filler1=tixol Event GREASY TRUCKERS PARTY Astoria London SUN 21/10/2001 18:30 order -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Page 1 of 1 curiously jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Fri Jun 22 15:02:50 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:02:50 -0500 Subject: HW A fan Message-ID: Yes. Jello also sings back up on Silver Machine, on Nik Turner's Past or Future release. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Habiby" To: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:41 PM Subject: A fan > According to an e-mail conversation I have just had with a Yes fan from > San Francisco Jello Biafra (ex Dead Kennedys, green party presidential > candidate) is a big hawkwind fan. > > go figure. > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jun 22 16:16:04 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:16:04 -0600 Subject: A fan In-Reply-To: <3B339166.88D4A19D@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: Mike H: "According to an e-mail conversation I have just had with a Yes fan from San Francisco Jello Biafra (ex Dead Kennedys, green party presidential candidate) is a big hawkwind fan". it's true......he wrote to me for a catalog once, I think via Larry Boyd, not positive though, and I never answered him as I was too wasted to bother with mail, and mostly just dealt with phone callers, AND, I didn't care who he was..... but I now regret it. mc *peaking out* From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jun 22 16:04:29 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:04:29 EDT Subject: A fan Message-ID: In a message dated 6/22/01 3:13:53 PM, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: << San Francisco Jello Biafra (ex Dead Kennedys, green party presidential candidate) is a big hawkwind fan". >> ========= yeah, _he_ wrote _me_ in '86, because of a reference to hw in a boston scene review, incl/dsra, in Maximum Rock and Roll (MRR). we corresponded on and off for a decade or so; he said he did see hw once in the uk, but the evening [to him] was spoiled by "boring Ginger Baker solos" but imagine him as a high school stoner, blasting 'doremi/space ritual' on his stereo....all that 'punque' stuff a few years away yet... ====== "<>" similar to what i did, now that you mention it... From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Jun 22 16:32:16 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:32:16 -0400 Subject: A fan + some other things too Message-ID: All your responses have been most interesting regarding Jello. Personally having grown up in the bay area and been a college DJ in the LA market in the early 80's I had NO TIME for the Punk movement when it started. No offense to those who like that kind of stuff. I recognize Jello and some other's abilities especially lyrically (the guy from X as well) but never liked the music. However it is not the first time I have heard that the 'wind had a strong influence on the early Punk movement in the US and UK. Interesting to note that I discovered Hawkind due to a fantastic prog rock show in the mid to late '70s in the bay area called "stone trek" on from 9 to midnight sunday nights on a San Jose radio station who will go nameless due to it's present programming.. Just wondering due to our relatively similar ages (I'm 40) if that is where Jello heard of them.. Just speculating. On a different note I posted to neo-quark and prog-cdr a request for anyone who might have some audience or sb recordings from the Pierre Moerlin Gong period to contact me off list if you would be so kind. CD-R preferably. Just can't get enough of this period of Gong. And a third note: I have now listed to the Hawkestra set a few times and marvel at the quality of the music (not the recording though that is really great) and the set list. YES reading the set lists as they were posted when it happened was great.. but actually hearing the show.. simply astounding. I had heard lots of shuffling of feet and apologizing from the boys that musically they were not on.. I wasn't there but they sure sounded on to me. I am a big "Hawklords" fan and really enjoyed the cuts from those albums. Now I hope from hopes that a "professional" version of Brixon or Astoria CD or Video or DVD comes out so I can have it!!! That is all for now. out Mike H Mike Habiby wrote: > > According to an e-mail conversation I have just had with a Yes fan from > San Francisco Jello Biafra (ex Dead Kennedys, green party presidential > candidate) is a big hawkwind fan. > > go figure. > > Mike > -- > ___________ > Mike Habiby > AIM: MSHabiby > MSN: MikeH12182 > www.geocites.com/mhabiby1/ > corwyn at nycap.rr.com > _____________ > > "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in > peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill -- ___________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1/ corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jun 22 17:07:01 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:07:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: Song titles Message-ID: wot - even better than 'The Song Of McGuillicudie the Puscillanimous (or Don't Worry James Your Socks are hanging in the cellar with Thomas)" from the very first Egg album Always a good one when you're talking great song titles! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:28:08 +0100, Nick Medford > "The Light Pours Out Of Me" has to be one of the best song titles ever. > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jun 22 17:15:04 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:15:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: reissue problems Message-ID: that's the commonly held theory although I personally don;t believe it - I think that something exists and I think that 'warrior' will appear evenntually - whether I can find out for sure is another matter - but as I so often say on this group, EMI do have in their vaults video foortage from the 'Space Ritual' tour - and that's a fact. Whether we'll ever seee any of it remains open to debate. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mich at el B" To: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:59 PM Subject: Re: OFF: reissue problems > I have a question > > and it would help upgrade my Hawkwind knowledge greatly > > Q- are you saying the record company lost the master tapes to Warrior? > > The reel to teel multitracks? > > Thanks > > Learning > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Mather > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 3:53 AM > Subject: OFF: reissue problems > > > > Here's a link to an interesting article about the loss of invaluable > > material from record company vaults due to various circumstances. > > Hawkwind fans can sympathise and visualise _Warrior..._ in this > > unfortunate scenario... > > > > http://www.chezmarianne.com/bholland/words/vault.html > > > > You never miss the water until the well runs dry. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Paul. > > > > NP: Blue Oyster Cult, _Curse of the Hidden Mirror_ > > > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > > --- Frank Vincent Zappa From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jun 22 17:23:23 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:23:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Greasy Truckers revisited? Message-ID: not sure what you mean Jill, but I would imagine that Ozit haven;t got the tickets on sale at many if any 'established' outlets just yet, but Chris has still confirmed that this event will take place. In fact CD Services should be doing a mail-out on it within a week or two's time when the two Davey albums are near to ready. By the way, it's looking very likely that Dead Earnest and CD Services should be poresent at the Blackpool gig if anyone' coming along, but whtehr we can get to Cantebury depends on CD releases being met. Will keep you posted, Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:58 PM Subject: HW: Greasy Truckers revisited? > I just found this announced on the Way Ahead mailing list. Anyone > know what's involved here? > http://www.wayahead.com/tixonlinemaj/event.asp?e|artist=greasy+truck > ers+party&filler1=tixol > > Event > GREASY TRUCKERS PARTY Astoria London SUN 21/10/2001 18:30 order > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------ > Page 1 of 1 > > curiously > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Fri Jun 22 16:59:21 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:59:21 -0400 Subject: HW: Greasy Truckers revisited? Message-ID: This is taken from http://www.hawkwind.com/dates.htm. October 21st Greasy Truckers 2001 London Astoria Mick Farren and the Deviants Nik & co Man Inner City Unit Tickets ?16 (plus booking fee) from the usual agents: www.ticketmaster.co.uk / www.wayahead.com Alastair. On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:58:07 +0100, Jill Strobridge wrote: >I just found this announced on the Way Ahead mailing list. Anyone >know what's involved here? >http://www.wayahead.com/tixonlinemaj/event.asp?e|artist=greasy+truck >ers+party&filler1=tixol > >Event >GREASY TRUCKERS PARTY Astoria London SUN 21/10/2001 18:30 order >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >------------ > Page 1 of 1 > >curiously >jill >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Jill Strobridge >----------------------------------------------------------------- From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jun 22 18:10:25 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Devon Hoof) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:10:25 -0600 Subject: OFF: reissue problems Message-ID: but the absolute worst has to be the extended versions and missing bits that went to the cutting room floor....... OUCH!!!!! m From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jun 22 18:15:45 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:15:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: reissue problems Message-ID: Interesting article. I came very close to getting a job as Assistant Mastertape Librarian at Polygram records in London, got down to the last 2 people, and didn't get it. Devestating :-( I got a tour round the recording studios, they let me have a look at some of the tapes by one of my fave bands(All About Eve). There was stuff stacked everywhere, and piled on the floor in the corner was like Elton Johns entire mastertape back catalog, WHERE IT BELONGS LOL A Fascinating Experience. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mather" To: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:23 PM Subject: OFF: reissue problems > Here's a link to an interesting article about the loss of invaluable > material from record company vaults due to various circumstances. > Hawkwind fans can sympathise and visualise _Warrior..._ in this > unfortunate scenario... > > http://www.chezmarianne.com/bholland/words/vault.html > > You never miss the water until the well runs dry. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > NP: Blue Oyster Cult, _Curse of the Hidden Mirror_ > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jun 22 19:46:21 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:46:21 -0400 Subject: A fan + some other things too Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:32:16 -0400, Mike Habiby wrote: >All your responses have been most interesting regarding Jello. > > ... However it is not the first time I >have heard that the 'wind had a strong influence on the early Punk >movement in the US and UK. Other examples: * Greg Ginn & Dez Cadena of Black Flag (I think it's in 'Flipside' magazine where Dez interviewed Hawkwind back in '89 or '90 and talks about Black Flag's first UK tour, where, when they had a night off, their hosts asked, "so, who do you want to go see - Damned? UK Subs? Stranglers? Exploited?" etc., to which they answer, "we wanna see HAWKWIND", very much to the confusion of their hosts). * John Lydon of the Sex Pistols (mentioned in his auto-bio ... too bad the rumor that he was a roadie for them isn't true!) * Throbbing Gristle (of course, Genesis P. Orridge is on the same Nik album that J.B. is) >Interesting to note that I discovered Hawkind due to a fantastic prog >rock show in the mid to late '70s in the bay area called "stone trek" on >from 9 to midnight sunday nights on a San Jose radio station who will go >nameless due to it's present programming.. Just wondering due to our >relatively similar ages (I'm 40) if that is where Jello heard of them.. Not likely, since he grew up in the Denver area. However, he DID get his band's name from one in Cleveland ... >Mike Habiby wrote: >> >> According to an e-mail conversation I have just had with a Yes fan from >> San Francisco Jello Biafra (ex Dead Kennedys, green party presidential >> candidate) is a big hawkwind fan. But he really hates Yes (and will inform you if he sees you wearing one of their t-shirts)! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Jun 22 20:20:33 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Timothy E Elliott) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:20:33 -0400 Subject: HAWKESTRA/BRIXTON Message-ID: yeah, what a great set of music. glad i sprung for the cd-r on e-bay-but you're right, a full length official cd & vhs would be the best. by,the way,if someone has a copy of the set list they could post,i would appreciate it; have managed to identify most of the song,but can't get a couple.thanx in advance... by the way-what's opinions of `...hidden mirror'...?? finally able to pick it up today...don't sell it in this county,had to go to `the big city' to get a copy. into track 3,so far so good,really dug `dance on stilts' heathcliff1313 From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jun 22 21:25:32 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:25:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: Hooker and O'Connor Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:42:29 EDT, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >In a message dated 6/22/01 7:58:41 AM, GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US writes: > ><< caroll o' connor and john lee hooker have passed away. > > >> >===== >together again for the last time! >== > >genuine childhood memories, circa '71 >of lying in bed w/ the radio >listening to the 15 min version of "boogie chillun #2" he did, >backed by canned heat >on the 'hooker and heat' lp While watching 'All In The Family'? ;^) Found an Inner City Unit rendition of "Boom Boom" to listen to last night ... -Doug (livin' with the blues...) jasret at mindspring.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jun 22 22:24:09 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:24:09 EDT Subject: OFF: Hooker and O'Connor Message-ID: In a message dated 6/22/01 9:25:56 PM, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: << While watching 'All In The Family'? ;^) >> ooohhhhhhh puhhhhhhh-leeeeeze.... 'All in the family' was saturday night; not a school night...heh.... ===== so 'boom boom' , covered by pat travers etc, was a song by hooker tambien? "<>" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 23 00:37:44 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 14:07:44 +0930 Subject: OFF: reissue problems Message-ID: how about a commando style raid - go in - get the goods ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 6:45 AM Subject: Re: OFF: reissue problems > that's the commonly held theory although I personally don;t believe it - I > think that something exists and I think that 'warrior' will appear > evenntually - whether I can find out for sure is another matter - but as I > so often say on this group, EMI do have in their vaults video foortage from > the 'Space Ritual' tour - and that's a fact. Whether we'll ever seee any of > it remains open to debate. > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mich at el B" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 7:59 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: reissue problems From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sat Jun 23 03:29:32 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 08:29:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Greasy Truckers revisited? In-Reply-To: <003701c0fb4d$4716bd20$ca23883e@jds> Message-ID: Well, last week I posted this under the heading "NIK: Nik/Deviants in London": > > Part of an e-mail I got from Mick Farren this morning: > > ---- > I'll be coming to the UK on around October 17th., for the > publication of the > book "Give The Anarchist A Cigarette" which is a kind of cultural > autobiography covering the sixties and seventies. The Deviants > will be with > me, but unfortunately we will be playing just one show at the Astoria in > London double billed with Nik Turner's band (essentially Hawkwind in > everything but name.) [...] Tickets should go on sale for > that in about a month. > > [...] > > As details are resolved they will be posted on the Funtopia website -- > http://www.thanatosoft.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm > ---- and then I found this: http://www.alive-totalenergy.com/deviants.html and then posted about the tickets being on sale at Way Ahead... I already booked mine. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Jun 23 08:43:03 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 07:43:03 -0500 Subject: OFF: Fan Converts Home Into 'Star Trek' Spaceship Message-ID: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010622/re/britain_startrek_dc_1.html From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jun 23 13:04:42 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:04:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Greasy Truckers revisited? Message-ID: Sorry Hadn't made the connection. thanks jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 8:29 AM Subject: Re: HW: Greasy Truckers revisited? > Well, last week I posted this under the heading "NIK: Nik/Deviants in > London": > > > > > Part of an e-mail I got from Mick Farren this morning: > > > > ---- > > I'll be coming to the UK on around October 17th., for the > > publication of the > > book "Give The Anarchist A Cigarette" which is a kind of cultural > > autobiography covering the sixties and seventies. The Deviants > > will be with > > me, but unfortunately we will be playing just one show at the Astoria in > > London double billed with Nik Turner's band (essentially Hawkwind in > > everything but name.) [...] Tickets should go on sale for > > that in about a month. > > > > [...] > > > > As details are resolved they will be posted on the Funtopia website -- > > http://www.thanatosoft.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm > > ---- > > and then I found this: > > http://www.alive-totalenergy.com/deviants.html > > and then posted about the tickets being on sale at Way Ahead... I already > booked mine. > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sat Jun 23 13:54:25 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 13:54:25 -0400 Subject: BRAIN/BOC: a reivew of the Helen Wheels CD Message-ID: It's beautiful. It rocks. From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Jun 23 17:52:52 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:52:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Silver Capri Message-ID: Any1 else see the 1974 retro prog on bbc 2 tonight? "I got a Silver Capri......" surreal Rx btw any1 got gig feedback from donington? From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Sat Jun 23 21:50:05 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:50:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: Hooker and O'Connor Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:24:09 EDT, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >===== >so 'boom boom' , covered by pat travers etc, was a song by hooker tambien? Dunno about Pat Travers, but the Animals & Yardbirds, yes. It was also the name of the club in San Francisco he lent his name to ("the Boom Boom Room"). But I forgot about one of the J.L. Hooker songs most relavent to the list (if not actually "on-topic") - "Groundhog", including the cover by the band who named themselves after it ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jun 23 22:15:49 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:15:49 EDT Subject: OFF: Hooker and O'Connor Message-ID: In a message dated 6/23/01 9:50:20 PM, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: << Dunno about Pat Travers, >> ===== guaranteed, his version of 'boom boom' (out go the lights)' got more then-contemporary FM airplay than all the other versions combined. circa '79-80 or so. which is not to say i particularly liked it... "<>" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jun 24 10:02:05 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 15:02:05 +0100 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Darrin McKeehen wrote: > I for one am glad that McVeigh is on dead and a crispy critter!! > > I think they should show the execution of this rat bastard scumbag of > ultimate proportions on all 3 major networks during prime time hours. > > Maybe, that would send a message to any others w/ such ideas that we show no > sympathy toward terrorists. And it would be: "That's such a cool way to get on TV nationwide", wouldn't it? > I hope someone w/ a gas powered leaf blower shows up when they are spreading > his ashes. > > I will be driving through Terra Haute next month. Maybe, I will get outta my > car and dance a jig. Well, since I guess you're not religious, and therefore you don't suppose McVeigh will care, or indeed those he killed, I hope you enjoy yourself, though I'm not sure how his death actually profits you in any way. > No Remorse! A sentiment which the bomber himself exemplified till the end, and which I'm sure he'd be glad to see you sharing. Yours, Jon Jarrett ObCD: The Brain Surgeons - _Trepanation_, or, I need this like a hole in the head... -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jun 24 10:03:21 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 15:03:21 +0100 Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal?/ CotHM in England at last In-Reply-To: <3B24E319.15364.1C2E975@localhost> Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: > On 11 Jun 2001, at 12:14, Joseph Brooks wrote: > > > I've always enjoyed Eric's rap in "R.U. Ready 2 Rock" on SEE; "We come > > down here to Atlanta just for one reason. Thats to ask you this > > question...", the "Hey, alright" bit from OYFOOYK. And last but not > > least, also from OYFOOYK, "I know Lucifer so well, I can call him by > > his first name..." As far as straight ahead vocal performance (in > > studio) goes, for Eric, I'd have to say either Black Blade, Joan > > Crawford or ETI. > > > Most [in]famous: The legalize weed/change the speed limit rap ca. > 1976, and captured on Live '76... For me it has to be the bit in the middle of the ETL `Roadhouse Blues'; "I knew room service was closed so I couldn't get no breakfast... " Stunning example of Eric's ability to work a crowd. And these days one might even believe him when he says the new album's coming out some time next year... > BTW, anyone know why BD's guitar is frequently not as loud as > EB's or AL's at concerts? Both times I've seen them over here Buck's guitar has been louder than everything else; never quite enough to drown the others out but enough that one couldn't hear the keys clearly while he soloed. On the other hand I was in the first few rows of Buck's side of the audience on both occasions, shouting "We understand!" every now and then so I was probably hearing his amps more than the PA... I now have _Curse of the Hidden Mirror_, anyway, and well, perhaps this is going to be a national divide but I'm really not that impressed. I do agree that the playing and the sense of the band as a unit is much improved, but where other people are saying there's no *great* songs on it, I'm finding there's only a few good ones. `Old Gods Return' and `Eye of the Hurricane' I like; `Stone of Love' I will admit to liking in charitable company, and I can manage to like `Here Comes that Feeling' and `Out of the Darkness'. But the rest of it does nothing for me, including `Pocket' which I'm just simply not getting, and not including `I Just Like To Be Bad' which is *awful*. Partly it's the Shirley lyrics, which are, well, better than last time out but still very dull sledgehammers to crack fairly obvious nuts. I mean, it's like this: (Trad.) Hickory dickory dock The mouse ran up the clock The clock struck one The mouse fell down Hickory dickory dock (or: by John Shirley) I'm a real heavy mouse With a clock and a hunch I've got to climb my house And get back before lunch (for comparison: by Richard Meltzer) Hockety dockety dick! Murine craziness a-go-go Clockmaker can't make it out But that first strike's sure a no-no (and lastly: by Sandy Pearlman) The bells will end the hour Mice running like witch's blood The clouds have gathered the storm Suzy's watch touches the time (chorus of phased chants of `It came from the sea!') I mean, we all know what we want here, no? Shirley's lyrics are always telling you what's going on as if you might have missed it. If Pearlman had written `(Now is the Time) The Old Gods Return' those words would very likely not feature and they sure as Lovecraft wouldn't be the only ones in the chorus... But, that isn't the problem. My real problem with appreciating what's good on here is the sound. What? I hear you say, but the production's _gorgeous_! You could hear a pin drop! They don't fluff a note! It's so clear, so straightforward (pardon me while I add my own spin now), so honest, so down-at-home, so _normal_. Yes, excuse me, why are my favourite heavy metal legends sounding like a country band? Where's Alan? I can't hear him *anywhere* on this disc, no spooky Hammond, no keyboard / guitar duels like we got in `Damaged', not even any guitar that couldn't be Buck or Eric. Was he there at all? Even on the "band" numbers (which it is good to see happening at last) his input doesn't seem to have been worth recognising. And more to the point, what's *with* this sound? It's got no EDGE, no ATTACK, it's not SCARY. There's no fuzz, almost no effects (bit of echo on some of the vocals?), they sound like a well-heeled bunch of C&W sidemen sitting down in a living room full of soft cushions with big grape sodas. I can't deal with this at all. `Old Gods' should be at least as scary-sounding as `See You in Black' if not more, but it's not, it's soft-rock played very well by an uninterested band. If I want to prove to people that BOC are still alive and kicking I can't do it with this disc, despite its many merits. I did get the new Clutch album the same day which may not have helped. In order to get the sense of _Curse_ more fully I've been playing the rest of the back catalogue and the result has been that I now feel I've underestimated _Mirrors_ and _Spectres_ a touch. Though I still don't like _Club Ninja_. But _Curse_ is almost certainly going to be in my BOC bottom five. Ah well. Yours, Jon ObCD: The Brain Surgeons - _Eponymous_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sun Jun 24 10:39:28 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:39:28 +0800 Subject: OFF/NOT MUSIC: more of a media celebrity than he ever oughta been... Message-ID: Jon Jarrett wrote: . Darrin wrote: > > Maybe, that would send a message to any others w/ such ideas that we show no > > sympathy toward terrorists. > John wrote: > And it would be: "That's such a cool way to get on TV nationwide", > wouldn't it? This is the problem isn't it? There's too much media hype! They act it out like a bloody soapie, where the governor is the baddie and the defence lawyers and protestors are the good guys. There should be complete media black-out. These people should not be made to look like martyrs. Bill From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Sun Jun 24 14:56:16 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:56:16 -0400 Subject: OFF: Savatage Message-ID: I recently bought the latest from Savatage (Poets and madmen)... and was a bit disappointed. I was expecting something more along the lines of their last few albums, which were amazing, and instead it seems to me that they attempted a return to their earlier style, mixed in with their more recent prog-oriented metal. Mind you, I don't own any of their earlier work, so this is mostly a guess based on what I've read on this list and elsewhere, since I was told they used to be a trash band. Now "Poets" isn't trash, of course, don't make me say what I haven't said *grin* but there are (too) many moments where the band uses guitar riffs and drum beats typical to trash. I could be wrong, I'm not a specialist on the subject, but what I do know is that I don't always like what I hear - most of the time in the chorus. Now, there are parts I like in almost every song. There are a few I dislike from start to finish, though (ie. "Drive" - and even the lyrics are stupid on that one; not to mention, I can't see how this piece fits in with the rest of the plot). And then, there is the _one_ exception... the epic "Morphine child" which left me stunned and speechless. Without doubt one of their best pieces ever. Wouldn't throw away a single note in that one :-) Also, this was my first opportunity to hear an album with Jon Oliva on lead vocals. Hmmm.... What can I say? That I understand why he stopped singing? :-) I'm not saying he's a bad singer, mind you, he actually sings quite well, it's just that I don't think he has an interesting voice, its a bit bland. Although I can imagine him well screaming on trash pieces, his voice is great for that *laughs* He does show quite some talent on "Morphine child", though, just wish all the songs were like that one. But anyway, all this does have a point. No, seriously :-) I've been attracted to two older Savatage albums for a long time, namely "Gutter ball" & "Hall of the mountain king". In both cases I'd say it's mostly because of the album covers and also the title for the second. But I'm not sure whether I'd like them or not. Soooo... since I now own "Poets and madmen" perhaps someone can tell me, based on the above comments, if you think I'd like any of the two mentioned albums - and which songs could they be compared to (if any) off the new album... ? OK, I'll stop ranting now and be quiet already :-) Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Jun 24 16:11:40 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:11:40 -0600 Subject: OFF: Savatage In-Reply-To: <200106241856.OAA20362@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: THE DUNGEONS ARE CALLING SIRENS can't be beat in small hours at tweeter blowing volume to show the neighbors that power failures just can't keep a good drunk down... *growl* ps..Mt. King wasn't bad. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Jun 24 15:45:01 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 15:45:01 -0400 Subject: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal?/ CotHM in England at last Message-ID: On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 15:03:21 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: >I mean, it's like this: > >(Trad.) > Hickory dickory dock > The mouse ran up the clock > The clock struck one > The mouse fell down > Hickory dickory dock > >(or: by John Shirley) > I'm a real heavy mouse > With a clock and a hunch > I've got to climb my house > And get back before lunch > >(for comparison: by Richard Meltzer) > Hockety dockety dick! > Murine craziness a-go-go > Clockmaker can't make it out > But that first strike's sure a no-no > >(and lastly: by Sandy Pearlman) > The bells will end the hour > Mice running like witch's blood > The clouds have gathered the storm > Suzy's watch touches the time > (chorus of phased chants of `It came from the sea!') ROTFLMAO Ab-so-fuggin'-lutle-ly BRILLIANT, Jon! Got any more stored up for the band to use? (And I love the way the "Meltzer" and "Pearlman" lyrics *feel* like they would fit perfectly with the music of, say, "Cagey Cretins" and "Astronomy", repsectively.) >... they sound like a >well-heeled bunch of C&W sidemen sitting down in a living room full of >soft cushions with big grape sodas. Just like on "Redeemed"? (sorry, couldn't resist) -Doug (sorry for the quote:content ratio) jasret at mindspring.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jun 24 16:35:22 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:35:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind in Norwich? Message-ID: Sulking at home 'cos I couldn't get to Donnington I've been scanning webpages. Here's the address for Sun in the East free festival in Norwich (also called e1 on the efestivals webpage - I'm assuming it's the same?). It's taking place in Earlham Park, Norwich. http://www.festivalsrus.co.uk/ Celtica are listed for the main stage but I don't see any mention of Hawkwind - is the band still planning to go there? It looks like great fun - fire performers, historical re-enactments (Viking village!) and some good Celtic-Rock bands but at the moment the mix seems more multicultural than space rock - though the band called "Loveless" sound worth hearing Is there any further info before I make plans to travel 600+ miles south? thanks jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From rdc at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Jun 24 18:09:34 2001 From: rdc at NTLWORLD.COM (Richard Crossley) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:09:34 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind in Norwich? In-Reply-To: <002b01c0fced$31b88980$93ce883e@jds> Message-ID: I Emailed the organisers about this a couple of weeks ago... Hawkwind are not able to play at this years event due to prior commitments, but please come and join us anyway it will be great day out!!!!! Personally, I'll probably still go just for Celtica, but I haven't got a 600 mile trip ! Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Jill Strobridge > Sent: 24 June 2001 21:35 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: Hawkwind in Norwich? > > > Sulking at home 'cos I couldn't get to Donnington I've been scanning > webpages. Here's the address for Sun in the East free festival in > Norwich (also called e1 on the efestivals webpage - I'm assuming > it's the same?). It's taking place in Earlham Park, Norwich. > http://www.festivalsrus.co.uk/ > > Celtica are listed for the main stage but I don't see any mention of > Hawkwind - is the band still planning to go there? It looks like > great fun - fire performers, historical re-enactments (Viking > village!) and some good Celtic-Rock bands but at the moment the mix > seems more multicultural than space rock - though the band called > "Loveless" sound worth hearing > > Is there any further info before I make plans to travel 600+ miles > south? > thanks > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jun 24 19:19:08 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 00:19:08 +0100 Subject: IRC chat Message-ID: That Dio gig in Edinburgh was a few weeks ago, you're late! Dave -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 20 June 2001 16:30 Subject: IRC chat >I gotta go see The Hobbit on stage so I'll miss this. I'd be grateful if >someone could try to discover the time that Hawkwind will take the stage >on Friday though. > >Cheers > >FoFP > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Jun 24 20:58:47 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:58:47 -0400 Subject: OFF: Asteroid #4 Message-ID: Hi Folks... Here's some news/upcoming gigs from the Philly "60s psych/modern space" hybrid band Asteroid #4 from their website http://www.asteroidno4.com. They have a new CD out, entitled "King Richard's Collectibles" which I have yet to hear, so can't tell you anything about it. But you might look out for these shows if they're in your neighborhood. Grakkl (FAA) July 31, 2001 IPO Festival, Los Angeles Knitting Factory 7021 Hollywood Blvd. Los Angeles CA. 323-463-0204 http://www.knittingfactory.com/KFLA/ August 1, 2001 Los Angeles Silverlake Lounge w/Yume Bitsu, The Warlocks and The Fletcher Pratt 2906 Sunset Blvd. Los Angeles, California 90026 http://www.casenet.com/music/silverlakefoldcalendar.htm August 4, 2001 Voodoo Lounge, San Francisco Bay Area Pop Festival 2937 Mission Street San Francisco, CA 94110 415.285.3369 http://www.voodoolounge-sf.com U.K. Mini-Tour The date for this event has not yet been scheduled, although it is being planned for the week of August 20th. Most likely it will be taking place at the Monarch, for another Rainbow Quartz blow-out night with labelmates Myracle Brah, and The Gallygows. A second show is being planned for Cardiff, Wales, at a venue to be determined. There are also plans for radio and instore appearances. We will keep you informed of the latest events as they occur. From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Jun 25 04:36:55 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:36:55 +0100 Subject: BRAIN/BOC: To Helen With Love Message-ID: Arrived this morning - now that's what I call service! More when I've had a proper listen, but this sure sounds like the real deal to me. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 05:52:21 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 05:52:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:17:16 +0100, Jon Browne wrote: > >only that "the Light.." is from Real Life, their first, which is the >best IMO. I really would get that first. Magic LP. Well, the best tracks on the comp all seem to be from that, so that one may well be the next port of call.. >Prog punk. An act not many pulled off. Hard to think of many others. Depends how loosely one applies the term I suppose. Penetration? Joy Div? Bauhaus (see below)?? None of them really fit the bill (though JD- still one of the greats IMO) >Listening to it again the other day, it's funny but they remind me more >of Alex Harvey than anyone else these days, Must admit that's not a comparison that would ever have occurred to me, though I can sort of see what you mean. I'm still struggling to decide how I would explain the sound to anyone else... the Tubes comparison someone made earlier isn't a million miles away, but there's so much more bite and edge to Magazine's sound, and then there's.. >Brilliant lyrics, eh? .. the lyrics. For someone- i.e. me- who sets great store by lyrics, this band is a major discovery. Even on the limited exposure of hearing one comp, it's clear that Devoto has to go in somewhere near the very top of my wordsmith's list. Favourite line so far: "I know the meaning of life, and it doesn't help me a bit" plus of course the chorus to Permafrost which I won't quote here, as some may be of sensitive disposition. Has your comp got Great >Beautician In The Sky on it? Nope, but with a title like that I have to hear it! > >BTW Bauhaus covered "Light". Managed to make it sound histrionic and >OTT. Really? Who'd have thought it ;-) They had their moments though. > >I saw Magazine live once, they were unreal. They were supported by an >unsigned band from Glasgow called Simple Minds, who were actually pretty >good at the time, although they owed a little bit to X-Ray Spex early >on. ???!! Must've changed a bit en route to stadium status then! cheers for the response Jon NM From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 05:57:57 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 05:57:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Song titles Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:07:01 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >wot - even better than >'The Song Of McGuillicudie the Puscillanimous (or Don't Worry James Your >Socks are hanging in the cellar with Thomas)" >from the very first Egg album >Always a good one when you're talking great song titles! Pretty striking I grant you. Of course there's always the old Floyd standby, "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave and Grooving With A Pict". However while such titles score highly on the wack-o-meter, I was thinking more of titles which are like a slogan or buzzy phrase that rattle round your head for days on end. I always liked the Psychedelic Furs' title "Into You Like A Train" though the song was nothing special. NM From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 08:34:21 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:34:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 05:52:21 -0400, Nick Medford wrote: >>Prog punk. An act not many pulled off. EXACTLY. When Nick asked the original question ("wot's...uh..the deal?") that was the answer we were all looking for! Well done JJ ---------- >I'm still struggling to decide how >I would explain the sound to anyone else... the Tubes comparison someone >made earlier isn't a million miles away, but there's so much more bite and >edge to Magazine's sound, and then there's.. > I did me best! Also mentioned pre-Ure Ultravox but Magazine out-power them without any difficulty. (Both bands have songs called Rhythm of Cruelty, not the same I am sure.) I would endorse the earlier comments about Real Life and Secondhand Daylight (first 2 albums) being their best ones. A favourite track is "Give Me Everything", the best power chords anyone is ever likely to hear! It is only now obtainable on that 3-CD compilation I believe. That compilation & everything else they did is reviewed here: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Bos620roac48p From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 08:54:16 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:54:16 -0400 Subject: A fan + some other things too Message-ID: >> ... However it is not the first time I >>have heard that the 'wind had a strong influence on the early Punk >>movement in the US and UK. > >Other examples: >* Greg Ginn & Dez Cadena of Black... >* John Lydon of the Sex Pistols... >* Throbbing Gristle... > One I'd like to add: Pete Shelley of the Buzzcocks is said to have admitted to Bob Calvert that Hawkwind was what inspired him to get a band together. Can't remember where I read/heard this. Oh, and Devo! I think they covered MOTU. 1st album is v.HW influenced, check out "Mongoloid". Hawkwind apparently played 3 or 4 times in the Cleveland/Akron area (Ohio) in 73-74, & this was the source of the influence. >>...I discovered Hawkind due to a fantastic prog >>rock show in the mid to late '70s in the bay area called "stone trek" on >>from 9 to midnight sunday nights on a San Jose radio station who will go >>nameless due to it's present programming.. Just wondering due to our >>relatively similar ages (I'm 40) if that is where Jello heard of them.. > >Not likely, since he grew up in the Denver area. However, he DID get his >band's name from one in Cleveland ... ---- Friend of mine was a college DJ at UCSC (Santa Cruz, not that far from San Jose) in mid/late 70's & apparently knew Jello there. In 1985 (?) I went into a record shop in Santa Cruz and saw they had the Hawklords grey vinyl 12" EP there. The shop had tagged a note to it, which said "Yes meets the Dead Boys". Excellent description! Moonglum From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Jun 25 08:52:47 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:52:47 -0500 Subject: OFF: Omega tune Message-ID: Hi Guys! I know a couple people were discussing Omega recently on the list. I asked the host of the prog show that I maintain the website for to play an Omega track last night. You can download or stream the file to listen to it. Playlist and links here: http://claim.to/prog/tablelist062401.html (will be cross-referencing this playlist in the Band Index in a couple days ...) Karen aka "Bubbles" the Planet Prog Webmaster From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Jun 25 09:10:04 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:10:04 +0100 Subject: BRAIN/BOC: To Helen With Love In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, I think this really is the real deal. Crying shame that it took these circumstances to get DR and the Bouchards in the studio together, but on this evidence they should do it more often. "Elle Sol" with DR guitar and lead vox may be the standout track; "Fallen Angel" with Joe is really heavy and nasty (in a good way), "Sinful Love" sounded great on mp3 through my pc's tinny speakers and is magnificent on the stereo. Even though there's a variety of musicians, it hangs together as an album - Albert's near-constant presence on the drum stool is part of that, but it's also the solid production, I'm sure. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Jun 25 09:13:45 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:13:45 EDT Subject: A fan + some other things too Message-ID: In a message dated 6/25/01 8:54:49 AM, moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK writes: << "Mongoloid". Hawkwind apparently played 3 or 4 times in the Cleveland/Akron area (Ohio) in 73-74, & this was the source of the influence. >> ==== at this point , the devo bros. said they'd written 'mongoloid' in 1969, when they were just 'sprouts'... berhard, how often had hawkwind played cleveland/akron? you had the 73 and 74 tours. (once in '73; x2 in 74?) but '3 or 4 times'? this one politely disputes this... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Jun 25 09:16:40 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:16:40 EDT Subject: A fan + some other things too Message-ID: In a message dated 6/25/01 8:54:49 AM, moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK writes: << However, he DID get his >band's name from one in Cleveland ... ---- >> say what? "<>" From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Mon Jun 25 09:29:04 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:29:04 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse of the Curse of the Hidden Mirror Message-ID: > For me it has to be the bit in the middle of the ETL `Roadhouse >Blues'; "I knew room service was closed so I couldn't get no >breakfast... " Stunning example of Eric's ability to work a crowd. And >these days one might even believe him when he says the new >album's coming out some time next year... Hehe... well, we did in '93 (and 94... and...). I hear now manages to sell bridges at concerts. > I now have _Curse of the Hidden Mirror_, anyway, and >well, perhaps>this is going to be a national divide but I'm really not that >impressed. I>do agree that the playing and the sense of the band as a unit is much >improved, but where other people are saying there's no *great* songs on >it, I'm finding there's only a few good ones. The other differnece between this album and Mirrors or Spectrs is that there is a much more continuous tempo to all the Curse tunes. Most BOC albums of Olde had songs with contrastings rhythms song by song, also whats missing is the Sgt. Pepper-y running together of album tracks a la T&M and ST. THough Agents of Fortune didnt do that much, it still ghad the weird newspaper voice on Morning final blending into the synthy Tenderloin. >If Pearlman had written `(Now is the Time) The Old Gods Return' we'd have at least a handful of references to Imaginos or Del Rio or whatever Pearlman decided to hide him as. > But, that isn't the problem. My real problem with appreciating >what's good on here is the sound. What? I hear you say, but the >production's _gorgeous_! You could hear a pin drop! They don't fluff a >note! It's so clear, so straightforward (pardon me while I add >my own spin now), so honest, so down-at-home, so _normal_. Yes, excuse me, >why are my >favourite heavy metal legends sounding like a country band? Well, they did sound like a strange psychadelic country on SFG. I can see what you mean though, there's no jaggedness to the sound. Even "true confessions" which is probably the country-est they got (excluding Redeemed which just gets weird with the "wont be long long long " freakout at the end) had that kind of we're playing our honkytonkiest BOC number and let Allan sing on it. so there! kinda edge to it. This BOC version in the studio sounds more like it took its tricks from X Ray Eyes than See You in Black (lets not forget that lil ditty was cool for BOC because it had the non standard time signature and it was busy, loud and eric yelling "in black!!" with a bit of convincingness at the end). >Where's >Alan? I can't hear him *anywhere* on this disc, no spooky Hammond, no >keyboard / guitar duels like we got in `Damaged', not even any >guitar that >couldn't be Buck or Eric. Was he there at all? Well some songs had keys buried in the mix. need headphones to hear a hammond peep out here an' there. >Gods' should be at least as scary-sounding as `See You in Black' if not >more, but it's not, it's soft-rock played very well by an uninterested >band. Hmm... do you (as in plural listwide you) think BOC's gotten riffier as time went on? To prove BOC exists, I use a bootleg of the song Harvest Moon. Thats heavier than what was on HF. >the rest of the back catalogue and the result has been that I now feel >I've underestimated _Mirrors_ and _Spectres_ a touch. Though I still >don't like _Club Ninja_. For me, spectres was a more adventurous AoF because they did a lot more non-"first three" album kind of sounds all over the place successfully for the mostpart. Examples: the a capalla opening to Golden age, which is a pretty long, complex, but uptempo tune like Astronomy, but with even more backup vocals and band unison needed. And then you gots your odd funk/disco/rock thing in Searching for Celine, The out-Eagle-ing of the country rock phenom. with more feeling and technical ability in Death Valley Nights (I love the keys in that song. was it Allan? if so, he doesnt play like that anymore) and the Sheer Epic Power of Nosferatu --which is the most killer thanks to Joe's eerie vocals, the cool piano and mellotron attack ,the rock riffing in "mortal terror reigned" section to the storming Buck solo to close out the song. its also the first album cover where the band really appear on it (ST, after all, had only a sketch and AoF's band photo was inside the cover, not On the front proper). >ObCD: The Brain Surgeons - _Eponymous_ good album. you should definately get the Helen Wheels tribute though-- great performances throughout and Fallen Angel IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT musicwise than Cultosaurus; its a differnt kinda vibe and everything it rolls much more like as thundercould in a two lane sky I think. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Jun 25 09:28:20 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:28:20 EDT Subject: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer, the Beans Message-ID: In a message dated 6/25/01 8:34:35 AM, moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK writes: << the Tubes comparison someone >made earlier isn't a million miles away, but there's so much more bite and >edge to Magazine's sound>.. => >> ===== at no point was magazine 'theatrical' as the tubes were; c'mon now... when i was a freshman in high school in tempe arizona [71-2], the coolest/'freakiest' local band was understood to be "the beans"; i've got about a song and a half on a crumbling cassette. this is where fee waybill came from, maybe other tubes tambien... the beans went frisco 'way, and combined w/a band called [i tink] arizona and went on to become the tubes.... "<>" From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 08:50:55 2001 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:50:55 +0100 Subject: A fan In-Reply-To: <3B339166.88D4A19D@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: I read an i/v with Jello in the early 90's where he mentioned going to see HW on a recent tour. He raved about it, saying he'd been worried that they might be old and past-it, but in fact were still excellent. So it's not just "old" HW he's into. Personally I don't find it surprising at all that he's into them. He (generally) has good taste and HW are great... a perfect match! Playing a certain type of music doesn't stop people liking other types of music... obvious I know, but I often detect surprise with this sorta thing. How about the Exploited being HW fans... never thought that possible eh?!? But true nonetheless! Ah well, back to the medication... Dave At 14:41 22/06/01 -0400, you wrote: >According to an e-mail conversation I have just had with a Yes fan from >San Francisco Jello Biafra (ex Dead Kennedys, green party presidential >candidate) is a big hawkwind fan. > >go figure. > >Mike >-- >___________ >Mike Habiby >AIM: MSHabiby >MSN: MikeH12182 >www.geocites.com/mhabiby1/ >corwyn at nycap.rr.com >_____________ > >"In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in >peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 10:03:48 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:03:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer, the Beans In-Reply-To: <36.17c1e31b.28689674@aol.com> Message-ID: In message <36.17c1e31b.28689674 at aol.com>, DASLUD at AOL.COM writes >at no point was magazine 'theatrical' as the tubes were; c'mon now... I had a feeling someone would pick this up as it's a pretty, umm, oblique comparison... but there are vague musical similarities here and there But yeah, from listening to Magazine it's impossible (and that's putting it mildly) to imagine them having the kind of stage-show for which the Tubes were celebrated. > >when i was a freshman in high school in tempe arizona [71-2], the >coolest/'freakiest' local band was understood to be "the beans"; i've got >about a song and a half on a crumbling cassette. >this is where fee waybill came from, maybe other tubes tambien... > >the beans went frisco 'way, and combined w/a band called [i tink] arizona >and went on to become the tubes.... White Punks On Broad Beans... or something... I feel this thread lurching Beefheart-wards... What happened to the Tubes anyway? They descended into AOR hell in the 80s IIRC.. did they ever clamber out again? -- Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 10:06:18 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:06:18 +0100 Subject: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer In-Reply-To: <200106251234.IAA16585@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200106251234.IAA16585 at listserv.spc.edu>, Moonglum writes > >EXACTLY. When Nick asked the original question ("wot's...uh..the deal?") surreptitious Floyd ref duly noted >that was the answer we were all looking for! Well done JJ It was JB not JJ! Pay your Arabs and pay your dues.. > > >http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Bos620roac48p Nice pointer Steve, cheers -- Nick Medford From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 25 10:10:56 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:10:56 +0100 Subject: Brief Donnington report Message-ID: We arrived not long before the gig due to an idiot coal lorry driver holding traffic down to 15mph going over the Carter Bar and into Newcastle. I did bfiefly meet up with Julie and Merrick, and Steve Ibbet just before the show, but couldn't find 'em afterwards. The tracks that I can remember were: Assault and Battery The Golden Void The Money Tree Spiral Galaxy Deathtrap Sonic Attack (with Dumpy guesting on vocals) Rocky Paths Moonglum Hassan I Sabha/Space is Their Palestine Hurry On Sundown (encore) Maybe some of the others will fill in the gaps. The Money Tree is of course the new track and I have to say that it sounds just like Ron's other punk efforts and that maybe the law of diminishing returns is operating here. The crew were brock, Langton, Richards, Chadwick, Davey, House and Captain Black, with Dumpy guesting vocals on Sonic Attack. Kollector's Corner: I also established that Hawkwind are on the official videos of the 1995 (Interview with Brock and Davey, Hassan I Sabha/Space is Their Palestine) and 1999 (Silver Machine) shows. FoFP From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Mon Jun 25 11:59:01 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:59:01 -0400 Subject: A fan + some other things too Message-ID: I spoke to Mark Mothersbaugh of DEVO a couple of years ago while waiting in line to see Cluster. The subject of Hawkwind came up in our conversation and he did admit to liking not only Hawkwind, but also Motorhead!! He told me about how, during DEVO's first tour of England, how they went to a Motorhead show and were totally blown away! Who would of thought??! -----Original Message----- From: Moonglum [SMTP:moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 5:54 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: A fan + some other things too >> ... However it is not the first time I >>have heard that the 'wind had a strong influence on the early Punk >>movement in the US and UK. > >Other examples: >* Greg Ginn & Dez Cadena of Black... >* John Lydon of the Sex Pistols... >* Throbbing Gristle... > One I'd like to add: Pete Shelley of the Buzzcocks is said to have admitted to Bob Calvert that Hawkwind was what inspired him to get a band together. Can't remember where I read/heard this. Oh, and Devo! I think they covered MOTU. 1st album is v.HW influenced, check out "Mongoloid". Hawkwind apparently played 3 or 4 times in the Cleveland/Akron area (Ohio) in 73-74, & this was the source of the influence. >>...I discovered Hawkind due to a fantastic prog >>rock show in the mid to late '70s in the bay area called "stone trek" on >>from 9 to midnight sunday nights on a San Jose radio station who will go >>nameless due to it's present programming.. Just wondering due to our >>relatively similar ages (I'm 40) if that is where Jello heard of them.. > >Not likely, since he grew up in the Denver area. However, he DID get his >band's name from one in Cleveland ... ---- Friend of mine was a college DJ at UCSC (Santa Cruz, not that far from San Jose) in mid/late 70's & apparently knew Jello there. In 1985 (?) I went into a record shop in Santa Cruz and saw they had the Hawklords grey vinyl 12" EP there. The shop had tagged a note to it, which said "Yes meets the Dead Boys". Excellent description! Moonglum From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jun 25 11:48:55 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:48:55 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: Big Amongst Sheep Message-ID: Hi Folks... Someone wrote to me asking me whatever happened to the members of Big Amongst Sheep, in particular one Ian Bone. Does anyone know where he might currently reside? I know they were from the northern part of England, which I only know as Cumbria, but I guess you lot more often call it the 'Lake District'. (?) For those that don't know what I'm talking about, BAS were a 'fun' spacerocky sort of band that had Nik Turner guesting on a number of tracks. One album and a couple EP's were perhaps their only output, c. 1982 or so. Having a 'Big Night Out in the Big Bad Universe'.... Grakkl (FAA) From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Mon Jun 25 13:32:56 2001 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:32:56 EDT Subject: HW: OFF: Big Amongst Sheep Message-ID: Hi There, Ian Bone if its the same one lives in southville in bristol very near me. The Ian Bone that I know was the editor ( and started up ) the Class War newspaper. He was dubbed "the most evil man in britain" by some tabloids. Is this the same Ian Bone that was in Big Amongst Sheep ? Certainly I will ask him next time I see him at the freinds of stalin show us your bottom pub quiz , or more likley at the checkout at Lidl. Ian was also the Southville community centre administrator for a number of years until funding ran out. Let me know Regards Iain From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 13:59:09 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:59:09 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: Big Amongst Sheep In-Reply-To: <27.1765227d.2868cfc8@aol.com> Message-ID: In message <27.1765227d.2868cfc8 at aol.com>, Iain Ferguson writes >Hi There, > >Ian Bone if its the same one lives in southville in bristol very near me. The >Ian Bone that I know was the editor ( and started up ) the Class War >newspaper. Hmm. I was always suspicious that whoever was behind Class War was being controlled by MI5 or similar. Normally I scoff at such conspiracy theories, but CW's kindergarten yah-boo "politics" and constant appeals to thuggery and brutality undermined any chance of radical UK politics getting anywhere in the 80s and 90s. Presumably Mr Bone would wish me strung up for expressing such sentiments, as an example of CW's concept of "street justice", and then he and his friends could make up a jolly little song about the killing which they could sing down the phone to my relatives (cf Keith Blakelock). Anyway, when you next see him at the checkout, ask him who is/was pulling his strings. Inquiring minds want to know. -- Nick Medford From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Mon Jun 25 14:08:50 2001 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:08:50 EDT Subject: HW: OFF: Big Amongst Sheep Message-ID: Nick, No strings. ian is an independant man.... he is not under anyones pressure... i can assure you of that.. Regards Iain From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jun 25 14:35:18 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:35:18 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hooker and O'Connor Message-ID: yeh - Travers did it - originally the B-side of some single or other back in the '70's - quite a steaming little version too - great guitar work but he would go and open his mouth - now there's a guitarist who needed a lead vocalist!!! (like so many of them) Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 2:50 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Hooker and O'Connor > On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:24:09 EDT, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > >===== > >so 'boom boom' , covered by pat travers etc, was a song by hooker tambien? > > Dunno about Pat Travers, but the Animals & Yardbirds, yes. It was also the From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jun 25 14:46:00 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:46:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: Song titles Message-ID: sorry to hearken back, but on that last bit you mean, I always liked (and here we go back to that Egg album), 'They laughed When I Sat Down At The Piano' - conjured many a vision over the years that one has - and if anyone's seen Dave Stewart lately tell him I want my Egg tapes back!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:57 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Song titles > However while such titles score highly on the wack-o-meter, I was thinking > more of titles which are like a slogan or buzzy phrase that rattle round > your head for days on end. I always liked the Psychedelic Furs' title "Into > You Like A Train" though the song was nothing special. > > NM From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 14:44:50 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:44:50 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: Big Amongst Sheep In-Reply-To: <99.16c5f586.2868d832@aol.com> Message-ID: In message <99.16c5f586.2868d832 at aol.com>, Iain Ferguson writes >Nick, > >No strings. ian is an independant man.... he is not under anyones pressure... >i can assure you of that.. I suppose I could go into full paranoia mode here and assume that you're working for THEM too, but that way lies madness if we're not there already, so let political apathy (and music discussion of course) prevail here as it did nationwide a few weeks ago... take care Iain -- Nick Medford From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Mon Jun 25 15:01:18 2001 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:01:18 EDT Subject: HW: OFF: Big Amongst Sheep Message-ID: Hi Nick, I'm no fan of Anarchy, I thought I did when I much younger but it just not for me.... Unless its floating free anarchy i just know ian from the pub, and is a genuinly funny & all round nice bloke, you'd never have thought that 10years ago he was one of the most hated men in the UK. He even disowns it now... ( ie changed from the original idea). Love & peace iain From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jun 25 15:06:55 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:06:55 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dead Kennedys (was: A fan + some other things too) Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:16:40 EDT, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >In a message dated 6/25/01 8:54:49 AM, moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK writes: > ><< However, he DID get his >>band's name from one in Cleveland ... > >---- >> > >say what? Yes, the FIRST band to be called the "Dead Kennedys" were NOT the one from the Bay Area with Jello Biafra, Klaus Fluoride and East Bay Ray. They were (along with the Pagans) one of the first punk rock bands in Cleveland, including mr. Chris Yarmuch (later of the Easter Monkeys, along with Jim Jones of Pere Ubu, Mirrors [who did the earliest Hawkwind cover I'm aware of - actually a cover of "Ejection" in 1974 ... Cleveland was a hotbed of Hawkwind fandom in those days, as also mentioned wrt Devo] and, more recently, Speaker\Cranker & Translunar Express) on vocals and Gary Lupico (later of country-rockers California Speedbag) on guitar. They were written up in Cle magazine, which was distributed nationally, and read by one Eric B. (no not Bloom!) of Boulder, CO. The Cleveland DK's soon changed their name to the Kneecappers, after (as Gary Lupico recounted when I interviewed him several years ago) being told numerous times, "with all the Irish bartenders in Cleveland, you'll NEVER get a gig with THAT name!" He found it amusing and flattering that someone else used the name after he discarded it. Unfortunately, the Kneecappers never released a record during their short career, but a 12"EP retrospective titled 'Urban Kill' (after one of their best songs) came out a few years ago. Essential if you're into 'Killed By Death'-type '77 punk. Enough history (with obligatory spacerock connections) for ya? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 15:19:40 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:19:40 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind in Norwich? Message-ID: Bother - and I've provisionally booked holiday as well. Serves me right for not checking first. Thanks for posting that info. I'm tempted by Celtica but..... jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Crossley To: Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind in Norwich? > I Emailed the organisers about this a couple of weeks ago... > > > Hawkwind are not able to play at this years event due to prior commitments, but please come and join us anyway it will be great day out!!!!! > > > Personally, I'll probably still go just for Celtica, but I haven't got a 600 mile trip ! > > Richard > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Jill Strobridge > > Sent: 24 June 2001 21:35 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: HW: Hawkwind in Norwich? > > > > > > Sulking at home 'cos I couldn't get to Donnington I've been scanning > > webpages. Here's the address for Sun in the East free festival in > > Norwich (also called e1 on the efestivals webpage - I'm assuming > > it's the same?). It's taking place in Earlham Park, Norwich. > > http://www.festivalsrus.co.uk/ > > > > Celtica are listed for the main stage but I don't see any mention of > > Hawkwind - is the band still planning to go there? It looks like > > great fun - fire performers, historical re-enactments (Viking > > village!) and some good Celtic-Rock bands but at the moment the mix > > seems more multicultural than space rock - though the band called > > "Loveless" sound worth hearing > > > > Is there any further info before I make plans to travel 600+ miles > > south? > > thanks > > jill > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jill Strobridge > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Mon Jun 25 15:28:03 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:28:03 -0400 Subject: A fan + some other things too Message-ID: If you listen to the first two DEVO albums they are very "hard". Not like the "hits" of later years. Mike "Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]" wrote: > > I spoke to Mark Mothersbaugh of DEVO a couple of years ago while waiting in > line to see > Cluster. The subject of Hawkwind came up in our conversation and he did > admit to liking not > only Hawkwind, but also Motorhead!! He told me about how, during DEVO's > first tour of England, how > they went to a Motorhead show and were totally blown away! Who would of > thought??! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Moonglum [SMTP:moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK] > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 5:54 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: A fan + some other things too > > >> ... However it is not the first time I > >>have heard that the 'wind had a strong influence on the early Punk > >>movement in the US and UK. > > > >Other examples: > >* Greg Ginn & Dez Cadena of Black... > >* John Lydon of the Sex Pistols... > >* Throbbing Gristle... > > > One I'd like to add: Pete Shelley of the Buzzcocks is said to have > admitted > to Bob Calvert that Hawkwind was what inspired him to get a band > together. > Can't remember where I read/heard this. > > Oh, and Devo! I think they covered MOTU. 1st album is v.HW > influenced, > check out "Mongoloid". Hawkwind apparently played 3 or 4 times in > the > Cleveland/Akron area (Ohio) in 73-74, & this was the source of the > influence. > > >>...I discovered Hawkind due to a fantastic prog > >>rock show in the mid to late '70s in the bay area called "stone > trek" on > >>from 9 to midnight sunday nights on a San Jose radio station who > will go > >>nameless due to it's present programming.. Just wondering due to > our > >>relatively similar ages (I'm 40) if that is where Jello heard of > them.. > > > >Not likely, since he grew up in the Denver area. However, he DID > get his > >band's name from one in Cleveland ... > > ---- > > Friend of mine was a college DJ at UCSC (Santa Cruz, not that far > from San > Jose) in mid/late 70's & apparently knew Jello there. > > In 1985 (?) I went into a record shop in Santa Cruz and saw they had > the > Hawklords grey vinyl 12" EP there. The shop had tagged a note to > it, which > said "Yes meets the Dead Boys". Excellent description! > > Moonglum -- ___________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1/ corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 25 18:01:33 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:01:33 +0100 Subject: Items for sale or trade Message-ID: Items I bought but which turned out to have no Hawkwind content: Custom Bikeshow Video 2000 Brand new official video from the Derby lads. Bands featured are Motorhead, The Levellers, Impotent Sea Snakes, Doctor Feelgood, Climax Blues Band, Rainbow Rising and Limehouse Lizzie, as well as custom bikes and the ever infamous Miss Wet T-Shirt competition. - 10 Pounds or equivalent trade. Monsters of Rock programme of unknown year. Some scuffing but reasonable condition. Features Rainbow, Cozy Powell, Judas Priest, The Scorpions and Saxon, with articles on all but the latter. Trade for a CD or equivalent. FoFP From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 18:48:19 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:48:19 -0400 Subject: Audio Generators Message-ID: Hi folks, can someone explain to me exactly what an audio generator is? The type used in the old days by Hawkwind. I've always wanted to know. I know about synthesisers but nothing about electronics. Is it possible to buy one ready made or would you have to build it? Regards, Alastair. From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 19:08:48 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:08:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Your Captain Is Speaking Message-ID: Dave Brock came onto the IRC channel #hawkwind.org.uk at about 10.15pm BST tonight. The following transcript has been edited for clarity: *** Joins: HAWKPEOPLE good evening HAWKPEOPLE hi hawkpeople hi Hawkpeople Hello hawkpeople, how was donington? Great weather, shame about curfew and low flying aircraft How long did HW play for? 1? hours did the mighty 'Wind' rock a fat one Got a bit weird towards end of set, had to rush, too much smoke, too many people on side of stage ... and what was the set like? Set was good, MC will put up setlist soon similar set to spring tour?... because THAT was f**king great! did you get a good reception? Yes, lots of Hawkfans there :-) Were there any numbers played that we didn't get at Croydon or Aldershot? Yes, a few I'm not sure I want you to tell me what I missed !! Moonglum, Rocky Paths Aaargh I love Moonglum (not you, Steve) <`Alice> moonglum is great :) <`Alice> any new songs played? Money Tree <`Alice> Huw was playing with you? Yes Huw played Dave here any quick questions? what's the next concert in line? Maybe Sun in East, but they are playing silly games with us and we have given them Wed deadline to confirm, if not, Canturbury cool, i should make Canterbury Lots of people would love you to come back to Camberley .... hi dave do you still have coloursound phaser u used on quark tour, i'll give you ?100 for it It doesn't work but ?100 would be ok thanks...send chq to Hawkwind merchandising address? Yes, colour sound thing still working i'll send cash for coloursound thankyouverymuch any possible concerts in manchester Maybe Manchester 12th Nov Actually, think Manchester is 10th where in manchester, acadamy No university any other dates lined up <`Alice> is a release date for Astoria set already? is the psychedelia weekend going ahead? Royal F Hall? As far as we know is that the same weekend as Gong and cid Mothers etc? Ok Dave will search it out now! Could be the following w'end gong are on with the orb, altogether would be pretty awesome Yeah Gong with the Orb is a night not to be missed ok, i thought it might be part of the same festival dave, gtr question...which pickup do you use on yr westone? Humbucker Dave what do you listen to these days? Various music <`Alice> Dave, what synth do you use on concerts? ems synth <`Alice> ems... the expensive thing I guess... <`Alice> what synth can you advice for beginning for a space psychedelic band? audio generators with an echo unit are they cheap to buy/build? They are cheap to buy, should be able to ghet them in Russia easily <`Alice> Dave, I hope... will look for them, thank you! a question for dave, is it a working farm he owns/runs A lot of hard work farm, horses, chickens and dogs, nothing that is killed and eaten! no trouble with the devil ass foot & mouth i hope dave, what amp do you use? your tone is unique...amp sounds like a Dumble on full crunch Special Roland amp <`Alice> Dave, you said there will be your new solo album, Memos and Demos, so when it will be released? In September I hope <`Alice> good! I am waiting for the artwork to be finished is it along the same lines of Weird #7 by any chance? Bit different or strange trips & pipe dreams, which i really like? Yes similar to stapd Do we type faster than everyone else then? Hawkwind type faster than all other bands <`Alice> really :) <`Alice> article about Hawkwind is finished and soon will be published in a magazine what about new 'Wind' material, do you have a deal Have material, no good deal as yet <`Alice> is there any chance for a a re-release of Warrior on the edge of time? Warrior question answered in chat the other day how do you feel about the unofficial releases Rather sad because the artist is usually paying to play Dave I would like to say that i really enjoyed Hawkestra even though I know you were disappointed by it in some ways. Not a question, just wanted to say that. ditto, fantastic atmosphere! would you advise people to boycott the cheap unofficial releases then I would say so personalli i hate going to the hawkwind section in the shop and wading through all these tacky unofficial compilations and rehashes <`Alice> Will your solo album be released on Voiceprint? Most probably i still have yet to send off my passport aplication, are you still sorting them Yes passport applications still being accepted We have to go now, where !! thanks for talking to us captain goodnight, take care bye Dave cheers, take it easy !! <`Alice> thank you for talking with us, good night! I'll write my questions down for next time you come in when I remember them * `Alice listening to wastelands of sleep, great song you have the same er problem as me, i think and me, i've been following that man for 26 years and he pops up on my screen...cosmic some of mine would be hard to answer I think because the answer would change over the years this is my second time on, what timing lol.....yeah, that wasn't bad Jazz *** Quits: HAWKPEOPLE (Quit: Space Is Deep.. h?WK?????t) there, he was watching us! like a hawk! my phone bill is justified <`Alice> internet is a weird and wonderful thing for such happenings... thought I hate it <`Alice> though can i just say F**K ME THAT WAS F**KING GREAT!!!! From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jun 25 19:19:57 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:19:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Audio Generators Message-ID: I've posted on this in the not-too-distant past, but I'm *always* up for expounding on analog musical electronics ... On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:48:19 -0400, Alastair Lee Sumner wrote: >Hi folks, can someone explain to me exactly what an audio generator is? Exactly what the name says: an electronic device that generates an audio signal (that is to say, a periodic wave in the range of approximately 20Hz to 20kHz, the range of human hearing). >The type used in the old days by Hawkwind. DikMik used equipment from his job as a TV/radio repairman. >I've always wanted to know. I know >about synthesisers but nothing about electronics. The main components of a synthesizer (of the analog variety) are: VCO (voltage-controller oscillator - the tone generator), VCF (voltage- controlled filter - controls the timbre, or brightness, of the tone), and VCA (voltage-controlled amplifier - sets the output volume or loudness of the synthesizer). An audio generator is a VCO without the other two parts (although it may have a volume control); the important thing is that it has a knob to set or sweep the output frequency (a synthesizer's "coarse tuning" knob would have the same effect, as would the pitch bend wheel IF the pitch wheel can be set to span several octaves - ideally all 10 audio range octaves). Twisting the knob gives you those wonderful DikMik sounds (especially if you run the output through a delay unit, especially an old tape delay like the WEM Copicat [the model that DikMik used]). >Is it possible to buy one >ready made or would you have to build it? Yes, you can buy audio generators; they're a standard piece of test equipment. Most electronic equipment dealers would carry several models. In the UK, try Farnell; in the US, Mouser or Allied. However, many (all?) modern audio generators have only digital controls, with little buttons or switches to set the frequency, and no actual frequency *knob*, which makes them useless as musical instruments (in the Hawkwind sense). You may have better luck checking out any surplus electronic equipment shops, or even asking places that do TV/radio repair if they have any old, obselete test equipment. However, my audio generator has been permanently relegated to the workbench (except for the time a friend took it across Europe on tour) ever since I got a Triwave Picogenerator: http://members.rotfl.com/soundshimmer/triwave.html Not one, but TWO independent VCO's, AND three LFO's (low-frequency oscillators) to modulate them. Any non-musician can create HOURS of unique, shifting tones with one of these, and easily figure out how to make many of DikMik's (and Del's) classic Hawkwind sounds. Again, a delay unit (tape, analog, digital - it's ALL good!) only adds to the fun! On top of that, it's barely larger than the average guitar FX pedal (unfortunately, the inside is too full of electronics to fit batteries, so you'll still need a power connection). Mine has been used on several albums and gone across the USA on tour. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Jun 25 19:22:30 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Timothy E Elliott) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:22:30 -0400 Subject: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer, the Beans,tubes Message-ID: re:the tubes-no not really,thought they did a reunion tour & cd in 2000. versions of `don't touch me there',`mondo bondage',& `white punks...' not to bad,but of course nothing beats the orginals-look for `t.r.a.s.h.' cd in used cd shops,all the great pre-80s stuff. heathcliff Nick Medford wrote: > > In message <36.17c1e31b.28689674 at aol.com>, DASLUD at AOL.COM > writes > >at no point was magazine 'theatrical' as the tubes were; c'mon now... > > I had a feeling someone would pick this up as it's a pretty, umm, oblique > comparison... but there are vague musical similarities here and there > > But yeah, from listening to Magazine it's impossible (and that's putting it > mildly) to imagine them having the kind of stage-show for which the Tubes > were celebrated. > > > >when i was a freshman in high school in tempe arizona [71-2], the > >coolest/'freakiest' local band was understood to be "the beans"; i've got > >about a song and a half on a crumbling cassette. > >this is where fee waybill came from, maybe other tubes tambien... > > > >the beans went frisco 'way, and combined w/a band called [i tink] arizona > >and went on to become the tubes.... > > White Punks On Broad Beans... or something... I feel this thread lurching > Beefheart-wards... > > What happened to the Tubes anyway? They descended into AOR hell in > the 80s IIRC.. did they ever clamber out again? > -- > Nick Medford From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Mon Jun 25 19:28:32 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:28:32 -0700 Subject: Audio Generators Message-ID: > Hi folks, can someone explain to me exactly what an audio generator is? The > type used in the old days by Hawkwind. I've always wanted to know. I know > about synthesisers but nothing about electronics. Is it possible to buy one > ready made or would you have to build it? Well, you can build one fairly easily with either a kit, or a plan and parts; just takes some skill with a soldering iron. Or check out a shop that sells used electronic test equipment and find one there. What you'll want is a signal generator, making sure you get one that can be set to cover the audio range (20 Hz - 20,000 Hz). They'll usually go a lot higher, and maybe a bit lower, and you usually have a choice or output waveforms: classic sine wave, triangle, square, pulse (variable square), and maybe something else like ramp. Next, get an amp to run it through, and an echo unit and maybe some other effects - guitar stomp boxes and pedals are good. A volume pedal is really handy, keeps you from having to fade it in/out with your hand, which will be needed for other knobs. Hmmm, time to dust mine off and plug it into the new vocoder that the post just delivered. (musiciansfriend.com has Electrix filter modules and vocoder for $99 each right now, usually >$300) scorch From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Jun 25 20:03:17 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Timothy E Elliott) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:03:17 -0400 Subject: boc-happy birthday Message-ID: ...and a happy 55th to allen lanier... From jbrooks1 at HOME.COM Mon Jun 25 20:55:25 2001 From: jbrooks1 at HOME.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:55:25 -0700 Subject: BOC: Volume In-Reply-To: <200106250900.FAA15928@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > BTW, anyone know why BD's guitar is frequently not as loud as > EB's or AL's at concerts? Its because EB's amp goes to 11... (Sorry, couldn't resist...) JB From jbrooks1 at HOME.COM Mon Jun 25 21:09:01 2001 From: jbrooks1 at HOME.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:09:01 -0700 Subject: BOC: CotHM In-Reply-To: <200106250900.FAA15928@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Fantastic review.. Very well put. If you see any review of CotHM this summer, see this one! Unfortunately, this is exactly what I would have written were I as eloquent. I especially like the part about the good ol' spooky/scary BOC that we all loved. They're dead and gone I guess. The new BOC is just way too homogenized. CotHM is better than HF but not by much. When I reviewed HF here, on its release, someone on the list (accurately) criticized me for wanting "Secret Treaties II and having sour grapes when I didn't get it. I guess I can't really argue that anymore. What I've come to realize though is that after all these years, this incarnation of BOC just isn't capable of doing anything close to "Secret Treaties II". This is a sad realization for me.. I've been a fan since 1974 and BOC will always hold a soft spot in my black heart for no other reason than being the creators of the soundtrack of my life.. But I find the current incarnation of BOC to be bland, uninteresting and unintentionally funny (like a B-Movie). You can't go back, I guess... JB "If the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" - Phish ----------Quote edited for brevity----- Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 15:03:21 +0100 From: Jon Jarrett Subject: Re: BOC: What's your favorite bloom growl/yell/vocal?/ CotHM in England at last I now have _Curse of the Hidden Mirror_, anyway, and well, perhaps this is going to be a national divide but I'm really not that impressed. I do agree that the playing and the sense of the band as a unit is much improved, but where other people are saying there's no *great* songs on it, I'm finding there's only a few good ones. `Old Gods Return' and `Eye of the Hurricane' I like; `Stone of Love' I will admit to liking in charitable company, and I can manage to like `Here Comes that Feeling' and `Out of the Darkness'. But the rest of it does nothing for me, including `Pocket' which I'm just simply not getting, and not including `I Just Like To Be Bad' which is *awful*. Partly it's the Shirley lyrics, which are, well, better than last time out but still very dull sledgehammers to crack fairly obvious nuts. I mean, it's like this: (Trad.) Hickory dickory dock The mouse ran up the clock The clock struck one The mouse fell down Hickory dickory dock (or: by John Shirley) I'm a real heavy mouse With a clock and a hunch I've got to climb my house And get back before lunch (for comparison: by Richard Meltzer) Hockety dockety dick! Murine craziness a-go-go Clockmaker can't make it out But that first strike's sure a no-no (and lastly: by Sandy Pearlman) The bells will end the hour Mice running like witch's blood The clouds have gathered the storm Suzy's watch touches the time (chorus of phased chants of `It came from the sea!') From dahl at AROS.NET Tue Jun 26 02:33:35 2001 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:33:35 -0600 Subject: BOC: Re: boc-happy birthday Message-ID: >>>...and a happy 55th to allen lanier...'' and he doesn't look a day over 79! Best to ya Allen! by the way, I love the new album. One solid hour of good rockin' fun. Brad From other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM Tue Jun 26 04:57:24 2001 From: other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM (No Digest) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:57:24 +0000 Subject: boc-happy birthday Message-ID: I didn't know he had the same birthday as me - cool! :-) Mark > ** Original Subject: boc-happy birthday > ** Original Sender: Timothy E Elliott > ** Original Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 01:24:27 +0100 > ** Original Message follows... > > ....and a happy 55th to allen lanier... >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Interviewer: 'you've been looking at the stars all your life. Is there any truth in astrology?' Arthur. C. Clarke: 'It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so of course I'm sceptical.' Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Tue Jun 26 07:42:51 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:42:51 -0400 Subject: A fan + some other things too Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:13:45 EDT, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >berhard, how often had hawkwind played cleveland/akron? >you had the 73 and 74 tours. (once in '73; x2 in 74?) >but '3 or 4 times'? > >this one politely disputes this... > ...and there's nothing wrong with a polite dispute or two. Awaiting Bernhard's verdict! Moonglum From starcannibal at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jun 26 07:52:00 2001 From: starcannibal at HOTMAIL.COM (Star Cannibal) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:52:00 -0000 Subject: HW:Spider website photos Message-ID: Found this website http://www.whisperingspider.co.uk/maincats.htm with some photos, none of the links work but they might put more up sometime by the looks of it. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jun 26 08:04:47 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:04:47 EDT Subject: BOC: CotHM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 25 Jun 2001, at 18:09, Joseph Brooks wrote: > When I reviewed HF here, on its release, someone on the list > (accurately) criticized me for wanting "Secret Treaties II and having > sour grapes when I didn't get it. I guess I can't really argue that > anymore. What I've come to realize though is that after all these > years, this incarnation of BOC just isn't capable of doing anything > close to "Secret Treaties II". Yeah, same way the Stones will never make another Beggar's Banquet, ZZ Top will never remake Tres Hombres, on and on... Name one band that's still making stuff that compares to their classic albums? Personally, I think Jeff Beck's new stuff stands real tall, but he's changed directions several times, and I suspect that a lot of old fans hate his 'techno' stuff and bemoan that it's not 'Truth...' The sad fact of being a fan of classic rockers is that you have to compromise a bit. Most people simply run out of ideas over time, and considering that B?C lost so many crucial songwriting contributors over the years, it's surprising they can put out albums at all. Remember, after 30 years in the business, most people don't have the same fire for writing. As their lives change and become more mature and loaded with responsibilities, their approach to songwriting changes. Except Lemmy, but let's face it, if you own one Motorhead album, you've got 'em all... This is a sad realization for me.. I've > been a fan since 1974 and BOC will always hold a soft spot in my black > heart for no other reason than being the creators of the soundtrack of > my life.. But I find the current incarnation of BOC to be bland, > uninteresting and unintentionally funny (like a B-Movie). > Hmm...do you think their live shows are bad too? I agree with a lot of what you say, but I think you're expectations are unreasonably high... > You can't go back, I guess... > > JB > No, you can't. But consider this: how pathetic would it be if B?C intentionally tried to recreate Secret Treaties? At least CotHM isn't afraid to explore new stuff. For that matter, B?C in their heyday never came close to Secret Treaties, even when AB, JB, RM and SP were still aboard. Times change, and you have to decide if there's enough interesting music left for you to enjoy. For me, there is. BD's playing is better than it's ever been, esp. live, there's no comparison. the only real objection I've got to CotHM is some of the lyrics, not all of them. True, there's a lot of power pop on it, but I bet most of us liked Flat Out when it was released! theo From nick at NETPHD.NET Tue Jun 26 08:27:59 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:27:59 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM In-Reply-To: <3B38421D.27674.32F378@localhost> Message-ID: Thank you, Theo, for bringing things back to the positive side. It's been kind of a downer lately the way people have been expressing their disappointment with Curse. Not that I think their opinions are "wrong". . . it's just that I like this album -- even though it's not "Secret Treaties II" -- and I'm kinda sad that more fans aren't celebrating what's good about it, which is actually quite a bit if you ask me. In addition to classic rockers changing over time, I think classic rock FANS change over time as well. We can't wear our mullets forever, after all. I'm in such a different place than I was when I first became a BOC fan. I've got two youngsters running around, a mortgage, two car payments, etc. I'm not looking for rock and roll to fulfill my life in any way -- just make it a little more fun. And -- horror of horrors -- I could not possibly care less what the saga of Imaginos is about, what order the songs should be in or what may have happened to him after the album ended. I do, however, think it's an extremely cool album. I also think Curse is an extremely cool album. And I'm going to continue to do so. --Nick > The sad fact of being a fan of classic rockers is that you have to > compromise a bit. Most people simply run out of ideas over time, > and considering that B?C lost so many crucial songwriting > contributors over the years, it's surprising they can put out albums > at all. Remember, after 30 years in the business, most people don't > have the same fire for writing. As their lives change and become > more mature and loaded with responsibilities, their approach to > songwriting changes. Except Lemmy, but let's face it, if you own > one Motorhead album, you've got 'em all... > > > This is a sad realization for me.. I've > > been a fan since 1974 and BOC will always hold a soft spot in my black > > heart for no other reason than being the creators of the soundtrack of > > my life.. But I find the current incarnation of BOC to be bland, > > uninteresting and unintentionally funny (like a B- Movie). > > > Hmm...do you think their live shows are bad too? I agree with a lot > of what you say, but I think you're expectations are unreasonably > high... > > > > You can't go back, I guess... > > > > JB > > > No, you can't. But consider this: how pathetic would it be if B?C > intentionally tried to recreate Secret Treaties? At least CotHM isn't > afraid to explore new stuff. For that matter, B?C in their heyday > never came close to Secret Treaties, even when AB, JB, RM and > SP were still aboard. Times change, and you have to decide if > there's enough interesting music left for you to enjoy. For me, there > is. BD's playing is better than it's ever been, esp. live, there's no > comparison. the only real objection I've got to CotHM is some of > the lyrics, not all of them. True, there's a lot of power pop on it, but > I bet most of us liked Flat Out when it was released! > > theo > From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Tue Jun 26 08:21:03 2001 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:21:03 +0100 Subject: off: Ben Fagin... you out there??! In-Reply-To: <4b.d3284d0.2864fecd@aol.com> Message-ID: Apologies for sending this to the list, but I'm getting no replies to me private e-mails and figure maybe the address has changed. Anyway, Ben, if you read this, I have your video ready to send... but no address to send it to. Please reply and we can get it sorted. cheers, Dave From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Tue Jun 26 08:53:23 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:53:23 -0400 Subject: BRAIN/BOC: To Helen With Love, a fuller review Message-ID: Having digested it now like a good meal, here's a perspective on the Brain Surgeons and Friends. Buy it if you have yet to do so. Tack-by-Track: The intro Handsome Dick Manitoba gives sets the tone of the album - "we love you," and the manner in which the following tracks are performed by its wide cast of characters speaks to that. lover's loan is an interesting lil rocker, in that it smacks of something 1950's in the performance, probably the Sax by Crispin Cioe (which is done very well); its like that reconfiguring of 1950's rock and roll that Bruce Springsteen always tried to do but never quite got right. But in this case it works well. Its the first track on the disc to feature Buck and the Bouchards, which makes it historically significant for all you BOC fans out there. Was this the first song that the three of them recorded for the album? Sinful Love is just a flat out rocker, its harsher and sleazier than the agents of Fortune performance, replete with horns and a cranking it up a notch of 5 on the main riff. Well played live, I might add. Elle Sol is a really touching ballad - "she is the sun/ we'll be so dark without her" featuring vocals by D. Roeser and the Bouchards + Tommy Mandel (he was on Imaginos right?)on a good solid piano accompaniment. Cool organ solo break. A very tight, solid tune that expresses sadness in a positive, forward looking way. Niagara Falls is again done by the Brain Surgeons, (first time was on Archetype). Having seen them perform this with Helen on stage, along with Tattoo Vampire was an unforgettable and a joyful experience; a song performed by close friends for all who want to listen. This time round it appears in the three piece stripped down rendition (To these ears the rhythm guitar track is clearer, and its all David Hirschberg this time.) Excellent backing vox by Albert and Dave. Deborah gives a heartfelt rendition of the lyrics, a comparable performance to what she does in Biloxi. Awesome song and fun. "I can feel the thunder I can hear the roar, I can see the shore so far below...... Niagara falls" is a pure fun chorus to have the audience to sing along with. and Dave's got tasty guitar solos, kids. Its all good. Albert's drumming in general on this disc is very tight, groove heavy, with really tasty, subtle drum fills. he plays according to what the song dictates. Will to Survive has Jack Secret on main vocals and the Bouchard Bros. on duty. Its a cool bluesy rocker with good cowbell and harmonica to add to the heavy sound and feel of the track. Would be a cool live number. Creepy chorus : "Why haven't I died? it's the will to survive". a good defiant attitude track. Who does the organ in the song? Fallen angel is like I said earlier, a drastic rearrangement of the song from CE. Longer, more "majestic" rolling rhythm on which the lyrics and song rest on. A good track. No, a great track. If you liked the CE version, this will make your jaw drop. Room to Rage, IMHO, is Helen's personalization of "Kick out the Jams." it's loud. it's crude. it's in your face and great fun to rock out to. A second jack secret vocal on this track, and he does it very well. Hero is a wacky track. with Buck, Sandy Roeser and the Bouchards alone. A mix of styles from a bluesy rap thing by D.Roeser(!) in the beginning to a cool melody line and performance by Sandy. all in all a complex amalgam of well honed pop and rock. The tune is also notable for sporting the return of Buck and Albert's backup vocal sound. I like this song a lot. What strikes me most about Helen 's music most of all is how accessible the tunes are to the prime directive of rock -- dancing. By the way, Hero has an oh-so-recognizable Buck solo -- but what's interesting in comparison to Curse, is how much this solo doesn't sound like what he does there. I can't quite explain it. St. Vitus -- what can I say about this that people don't already know from Box of Hammers or from catching the Brain Surgeons live when it was their opening number? Well, for one, the bass drum is clearer in the mix and it keeps a cooool funky heartbeat rhythm in a different way,without that the wall of guitars which tore through it's predecessor on BoH; Deb's vocal delivery is different than on BoH; more focussed in a good way. The overall delivery is more stripped down as Deb is guitar on the track and the "black hearts of soul" chorus is modified; the guitar line that follows it is sung this time but A.Bouchard. I LOVE THIS TRACK and always WILL. I see it this way: when something rocks, how can you NOT love to ROCK with it? "Goodbye Joe" feels like a J.Bouchard number... its atmospheric and the riff has this nice lumbering, but ominous swagger to it. Another Buck and Bouchard Brothers track, but with Tommy Mandel + "Dr.Music" Jack Rigg on vox and lead guitar. He's really good at vocals and guitar (it never really struck me how good a guitar player he was till I got the David Roter Method Live video). This would also make a good live track for the riff alone, and the lyrics are haunting, too. As I Bleed is performed by Helen's "Skeleton Crew" as they were called when in performance with her. But you may know them in the Central NY region as Static Cling. They're a very good 4 piece -- when I saw them with Helen a few years ago, they turned in great renditions of classic surf instrumentals as the opening number and, with Helen, blasted many a rafter with a ride down MC5's "Shakin' Street." The track here is again an interesting mix of strong melody line and rock attitude. The bass break(I think its a bass! need more coffee to help my ears acclimate) has a great guitar solo as the band kicks it up a notch. Cathi Lee Otis' vox is strong and fits the song very, very well. The lil' jazzy guitar ending is a nice touch. Chimes of Freedom is like a party song, one that's played at the end of a night around a bonfire where everyone knows they've had a lot of fun and have stumbled upon, by good fortune of a few guitar players and everyone knowing the words, with a way to celebrate the joyful night that has passed and give thanks to the dawn that is ahead. Although not a Helen Lyric, one can hear how it fits into the album and why she'd like it. To Helen With Love a tribute album as it really should be done, because acts like the title says it does. Thanks should go out to all who committed themselves in making this album as good as it is. Jason From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Tue Jun 26 09:54:41 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 09:54:41 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Helen wheels Message-ID: Listening to Lovers Loan, does the riff before the vocal line kicks in remind anyone else of "Gimme Shelter"? Either way, fun. crazy fast, Jason From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Tue Jun 26 10:20:21 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:20:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: Audio Generators Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > > >Is it possible to buy one > >ready made or would you have to build it? > > Yes, you can buy audio generators; they're a standard piece of test > equipment. Most electronic equipment dealers would carry several models. > In the UK, try Farnell; in the US, Mouser or Allied. > > However, many (all?) modern audio generators have only digital controls, > with little buttons or switches to set the frequency, and no actual > frequency *knob*, which makes them useless as musical instruments (in the > Hawkwind sense). Not all. I just checked the Pasco and Sargent - Welch catalogs, and they both have knobs to control the frequency. (Sargent - Welch has both coarse and fine tuning knobs.) Just to confuse matters, they call them function generators. One thing to take into consideration is how the frequency is displayed. On the old Pasco function generators, the display was a frequency counter: rotate the tuning knob to a new frequency and there would be a sometimes quite noticeable time lag before the display would lock into the new frequency. With the new Pasco Digital Function Generator the tuning follows the display, making it much easier to play in tune. Of course, we are talking Hawkwind here... (-8 John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From colin_w at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jun 26 11:47:01 2001 From: colin_w at HOTMAIL.COM (Colin Watt) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:47:01 -0400 Subject: HW: Newcastle Concert Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:15:17 +0100, Dave H wrote: >Looks like the Newcastle Concert if definitely on. > >The Newcastle Opera House is Advertising the concert >in the Evening Chronicle (Newcastle's Local Paper) > >The Newcastle Opera House >Westgate Road >NE1 4AG > >Tel: (0191) 2320899 >Fax (0191) 2611735 > >Wednesday 14th November >?12.50/15.50 > >http://www.newcastleoperahouse.com > >-- >Dave H Good !! - that's really close to a good pub (The Bodega) which serves some top ales - saves rushing to the venue at the last moment. see you there From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jun 26 13:05:58 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:05:58 +0100 Subject: BOC: CotHM In-Reply-To: <200106261227.IAA12515@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Nick English wrote: > Thank you, Theo, for bringing things back to the > positive side. It's been kind of a downer lately the > way people have been expressing their disappointment > with Curse. Not that I think their opinions > are "wrong". . . it's just that I like this album -- > even though it's not "Secret Treaties II" -- and I'm > kinda sad that more fans aren't celebrating what's good > about it, which is actually quite a bit if you ask me. yes, I'd agree with you to a certain extent, but it just doesn't feel like BOC at their best to even me. It's pleasant enough but it's not *special*,itjust didn't live up to expectations. > In addition to classic rockers changing over time, I > think classic rock FANS change over time as well. We > can't wear our mullets forever, after all. > True. And every new generation of rock fans changes the way rock works. But Idon't think Curse lives up to that well. Having said that, I don't dislike the album and will continue to listen to it, I just hoped for more. Kirsten -- Kirsten Procter ghoti NP:Farflung - the Myth of Solid Ground From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Tue Jun 26 13:21:31 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:21:31 -0400 Subject: BOC: COTHM Message-ID: > by the way, I love the new album. One solid hour of good rockin' fun. > EXACTLY! Frankly I was getting a bit tired of the complaints here about COTHM. Too much living in the past for my tastes. This album is getting LOTS of play in my CD player, and consensus of non-BOC-L fans is that this album is much better than Heaven Forbid. Doesn't measure up to Secret Treaties? That was 18 years ago! Give it a rest - enjoy the album, or don't. But unless you've been living under a rock for 10 years, you'd probably realize that this album represents who BOC is TODAY very accurately. If it's not the band you fell in love with in the 1970's so be it - go to their concerts and listen to the oldies, or buy the remasters and repackaged compilations. "In the pocket OF THE MOMENT", John From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Tue Jun 26 13:24:13 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:24:13 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM: what it is, what it could be, what it ain't Message-ID: >> even though it's not "Secret Treaties II" -- and I'm >> kinda sad that more fans aren't celebrating what's good >> about it, which is actually quite a bit if you ask me. At this point in time, I don't think they're capable of a secret treaties style album for the simple fact that they don't have that band image anymore. If 3OC had managed to keep that slick, conceptually driven and WEIRD packaging/lyric accepting ethos through the 80's it would be possible. Although AoF and its successors weren't as running-track-together-bound-by-Pearlman's-hoohah they still managed to present a different, but similar BOC image -- they still were a thinking band but more human than full of dizbuster and Nazi-related (non-existent label even when such a change could be levelled at them) oddballism. Part of it is the band's fault too. Look what happened on the heels of FoUO --- they gave us Revolution by Night with "eyes on fire" -- say bye bye to image conscious/overall package sensitive band. we've been waiting for STII since 1981. Sure, its cover art was kinda neat... but the content of the album just wasn't as together was it? it didn't get any better to say the least in Club Ninja daze. to the extent that CoTHM has an image to project- its the biker bloom and pop dharma show. Eric singing how bad*ss he can be in various Shirley created roles, not to mention all the bike stuff in eye of the hurricane, and Buck doing the sensitive quirk/residue of ambiguity riff, with A.Lanier doing something in the background. what it is, the world will never know. Having said that, I really like bucks song stylings these days. his songs are more suited to a buck dharma sideproject or Brain Surgeons Equivalent than the 30 yr. Spectres of B.O.C. >True. And every new generation of rock fans changes the way rock >works. But Idon't think Curse lives up to that well. chances are it wont fare much better than HF does in set list representation in a few years. who knows. gimme room to rage Jason From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jun 26 13:38:08 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:38:08 EDT Subject: BOC: COTHM In-Reply-To: <3B38C49B.F1BC5C82@mitre.org> Message-ID: On 26 Jun 2001, at 13:21, John A. Swartz wrote: > > by the way, I love the new album. One solid hour of good rockin' > > fun. > > > > EXACTLY! Frankly I was getting a bit tired of the complaints here > about COTHM. Too much living in the past for my tastes. This album > is getting LOTS of play in my CD player, and consensus of non-BOC-L > fans is that this album is much better than Heaven Forbid. Doesn't > measure up to Secret Treaties? That was 18 years ago! Give it a rest > - enjoy the album, or don't. And, BTW, 'exactly' who has put out an album to measure up to ST in those 18 years? But unless you've been living under a > rock for 10 years, you'd probably realize that this album represents > who BOC is TODAY very accurately. If it's not the band you fell in > love with in the 1970's so be it - go to their concerts and listen to > the oldies, or buy the remasters and repackaged compilations. > Well put as usual! We all need to remember that the band, even back then, was uneasy with SP's image manipulation of the band, and they were eager to write their own stuff. Witness the huge left turn of AoF after the sainted ST, when the band was starting to write things their own way and discarding the stuff SP encouraged. Musicians change, grow and evolve, and we have to decide for ourselves if we like the 'new' band... theo From bert at APPRENTICEIS.COM Tue Jun 26 13:38:34 2001 From: bert at APPRENTICEIS.COM (Bert Edens) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:38:34 -0500 Subject: BOC: COTHM In-Reply-To: <3B38C49B.F1BC5C82@mitre.org> Message-ID: At 13:21 6/26/01 -0400, you wrote: > > by the way, I love the new album. One solid hour of good rockin' fun. > >EXACTLY! Frankly I was getting a bit tired of the complaints here about >COTHM. Too much living in the past for my tastes. This album is >getting LOTS of play in my CD player, and consensus of non-BOC-L fans is >that this album is much better than Heaven Forbid. Doesn't measure up >to Secret Treaties? That was 18 years ago! Give it a rest - enjoy the Eighteen years? Man, I knew I was dazed and tried to forget some of those albums, but I think it was longer than that :-) - Bert From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Tue Jun 26 13:48:30 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:48:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: COTHM Message-ID: >Eighteen years? Man, I knew I was dazed and tried to forget >some of those >albums, but I think it was longer than that :-) > I think its 27 years old. ST came out in 1974 right? From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jun 26 13:54:11 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:54:11 EDT Subject: BOC: SoL [sic] In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F669C@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: Someone was bemoaning the lack of AL's contributions on CotHM. I think AL might have done some guitar leads on SoL? The last solo doesn't sound 'exactly' like BD, does it? And after the first solo [obviously BD] there's a second section that sounds like it could be AL. Anyone know for sure? theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jun 26 14:05:05 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:05:05 EDT Subject: BOC: A.L. In-Reply-To: <3B389038.20002.16419D1@localhost> Message-ID: ...And while we're at it, the keyboard solo in GtFH sounds like it would fit perfectly on T&M... theo From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Tue Jun 26 14:52:56 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:52:56 +0200 Subject: A fan + some other things too In-Reply-To: <200106261142.HAA22556@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi there At 07:42 26.06.2001 -0400, you wrote: >>berhard, how often had hawkwind played cleveland/akron? >>you had the 73 and 74 tours. (once in '73; x2 in 74?) >>but '3 or 4 times'? >> >>this one politely disputes this... >> >...and there's nothing wrong with a polite dispute or two. Awaiting >Bernhard's verdict! Here are the requested informations: TOWN: HALL: DATE: DAY: Akron University 27.11.1973 Tue Akron University 26.10.1974 Sat Cleveland Allen Theatre 08.09.1974 Sun Cleveland Allen Theatre 22.03.1974 Fri Cleveland Allen Theatre 16.05.1975 Fri Cleveland Phantasy Club 30.09.1989 Sat Cleveland Empire 05.12.1990 Wed Cleveland Empire 06.12.1990 Thu Cleveland Empire 19.05.1991 Sun Cleveland Agora 07.04.1995 Fri Cleveland Phantasy Theatre 26.08.1997 Tue Hope that helps cheers Bernhard From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jun 26 14:17:22 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:17:22 -0400 Subject: HW: A fan + some other things too Message-ID: Bernhard said... >TOWN: HALL: DATE: DAY: >Cleveland Phantasy Club 30.09.1989 Sat >Cleveland Phantasy Theatre 26.08.1997 Tue To be really anal about this... But these should be the other way around. The '89 show was in the Phantasy Theatre (the big place) - (I was there, so I'm sure of that), and I assume that the '97 show was in the upstairs Night Club (the one with the ship). Although I can't say for sure 'cause I wasn't there. But I don't think the Theatre part has been used in quite a long time. Grakkl (FAA) From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Tue Jun 26 15:33:50 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:33:50 +0200 Subject: HW: A fan + some other things too In-Reply-To: <200106261930.PAA29039@mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Hi At 14:17 26.06.2001 -0400, you wrote: >Bernhard said... > >>TOWN: HALL: DATE: DAY: >>Cleveland Phantasy Club 30.09.1989 Sat >>Cleveland Phantasy Theatre 26.08.1997 Tue > >To be really anal about this... > >But these should be the other way around. The '89 show was in the Phantasy >Theatre (the big place) - (I was there, so I'm sure of that), and I assume >that the '97 show was in the upstairs Night Club (the one with the ship). >Although I can't say for sure 'cause I wasn't there. But I don't think the >Theatre part has been used in quite a long time. Thanks for this info. I'll update my database! cheers Bernhard From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jun 26 15:33:08 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:33:08 EDT Subject: A fan + some other things too Message-ID: In a message dated 6/26/01 3:14:10 PM, bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE writes: << but '3 or 4 times'? >> >>this one politely disputes this... >> >> ===== and having politely disputed, moves on.... 4x in 73-74 not that i rememer the original question... = now playing: "i put a spell on you" NATACHA ATLAS... "<>" From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jun 26 15:49:30 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:49:30 -0400 Subject: HW: A fan + some other things too Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:17:22 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >Bernhard said... > >>TOWN: HALL: DATE: DAY: >>Cleveland Phantasy Club 30.09.1989 Sat >>Cleveland Phantasy Theatre 26.08.1997 Tue > >To be really anal about this... > >But these should be the other way around. The '89 show was in the Phantasy >Theatre (the big place) - (I was there, so I'm sure of that), and I assume >that the '97 show was in the upstairs Night Club (the one with the ship). >Although I can't say for sure 'cause I wasn't there. But I don't think the >Theatre part has been used in quite a long time. BZZT! (Sorry, Keith.) I was at the '97 show, and it WAS at the downstairs Phantasy Theatre. I do remember someone mentioning that this may have been the first time it had been used in several years (I'm sure Jim Lascko could verify any details) ... However, I assume that you're correct about the '89 show also being in the Theatre (I wasn't at that one!). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Jun 26 16:36:30 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 16:36:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: Reissues Message-ID: http://legacyrecordings.com/boc/flash.html The Flash programmer must have been reading BOC-L lately. Why else would the intro contain the words, "God save Blue Oyster Cult from themselves?"* Anyway, the first four reissues are supposedly out now and the above is a nice overhaul of the site SONY used to promote the Workshop of the Telescopes set. * No, really, I like Curse of the Hidden Mirror...It has it's downside, but I enjoy it as a whole and it's a lot better than Heaven Forbid. And even HF was better than Club Ninja or most of Revolution By Night. Brian NP> New Race "The First and The Last" (but looking forward to "To Helen With Love") -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jun 26 16:44:27 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 16:44:27 EDT Subject: BOC: Reissues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 26 Jun 2001, at 16:36, Brian Halligan wrote: > * No, really, I like Curse of the Hidden Mirror...It has it's > downside, but I enjoy it as a whole and it's a lot better than Heaven > Forbid. And even HF was better than Club Ninja or most of Revolution > By Night. > > Brian there seems quite a bit of antipathy toward tRBN. When it came out, I was pretty happy with it, though I don't listen to it much anymore, primarily because I don't have it on CD--waiting for the reissue! theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Jun 26 17:03:38 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:03:38 -0400 Subject: BOC: Reissues In-Reply-To: <3B38BBE5.31055.20EBE67@localhost> Message-ID: Theo wrote: > there seems quite a bit of antipathy toward tRBN. When it came > out, I was pretty happy with it, though I don't listen to it much > anymore, primarily because I don't have it on CD--waiting for the > reissue! I listen to RbN for Take Me Away and Shadow of California. Shooting Shark is OK, but I just can't get too excited about it. RbN also has Let Go and Eyes on Fire, two of my least favorite BOC tunes of all time. Substitute Here Comes That Feeling and Stone of Love and the album would have been a lot higher on my list. I wonder what the bonus tracks will be on the reissue. Any ideas? I will say about Curse that I automatically hear it as an '80s album rather than one released in 2001. I can't help it. It all just sounds very '80s to my ears. For all the problems with Heaven Forbid, it sounded more contemporary. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jun 26 17:08:45 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:08:45 EDT Subject: BOC: Reissues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 26 Jun 2001, at 17:03, Brian Halligan wrote: > I listen to RbN for Take Me Away and Shadow of California. Shooting > Shark is OK, but I just can't get too excited about it. RbN also has > Let Go and Eyes on Fire, two of my least favorite BOC tunes of all > time. No argument over EoF, which is horrible, but Let Go was a joke all the way, hence acceptable... Substitute Here Comes That Feeling and Stone of Love and the > album would have been a lot higher on my list. I wonder what the bonus > tracks will be on the reissue. Any ideas? > > I will say about Curse that I automatically hear it as an '80s album > rather than one released in 2001. I can't help it. It all just sounds > very '80s to my ears. For all the problems with Heaven Forbid, it > sounded more contemporary. > Interesting observation. I think CotHM is very slick and modern sounding, maybe too polished a production. HF simply had too few good songs to keep me interested, and seemed a bit stale, because it consisted mainly of old songs that weren't given enough time or budget [in the studio] to gestate properly. And, I think BD has taken a huge leap as a producer over the span of the 2 discs... theo From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Jun 26 17:12:21 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:12:21 +0100 Subject: BOC: Reissues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And I see that amazon.co.uk list them for just ?7.99 a pop, so even though I got that BOC/T&M reissue I'm still tempted to get these too (but ST and AoF first!) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jun 26 16:28:39 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 16:28:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: Roots of Orchis Message-ID: Hi Folks... A cool experimental post-rock band from San Diego that I rather like is touring soon...you might check 'em out if you wish. Grakkl (FAA) The Roots of Orchis US TOUR '2001 7.18.01 San Francisco CA, The Bottom of the Hill w/ IQU and FCS North (415) 621-4455, http://bottomofthehill.com 7.20.01 Oakland CA, The Portlite w/ The Velvet Teen and The Ghost, 21+, $5, http://www.portlite.net 7.21.01 Chico CA, The Blue Room w/ The Velvet Teen 7.22.01 Portland OR, The Meow Meow w/ Kind of Like Spitting, Doug Shepard and The Velvet Teen, All Ages, $6, 9pm, http://www.themeowmeow.com 7.23.01 Seattle WA, Graceland 7.24.01 Boise ID, Sotano 7.25.01 Salt Lake City UT Kilby Court, All Ages 7.26.01 Denver CO, 15th St. Tavern, 21+, 9pm, 623 15th Street, http://15thsttavern.com/ 7.27.01 Chicago IL, The Fireside Bowl, COPPER PRESS SHOWCASE with The Potomac Accord, Hubcap, The Double and Haymarket Riot, All Ages 7.28.01 Day off 7.29.01 Chicago IL, The Empty Bottle w/ Volta Do Mar and Goldsmith Jones, 21+ - $5 - EARLY SHOW! @ 7pm, http://emptybottle.com/ 7.30.01 Cleveland OH, Speak In Tongues w/ The Six Parts Seven, All Ages 7.31.01 Pittsburgh PA, Mr. Roboto Project w/ The Six Parts Seven All Ages - $5, - 7pm, http://cenotaph.org/roboto/shows.html 8.01.01 Boston MA, The Middle East 8.02.01 Providence RI, ?We Need Help? 8.03.01 New Jersey NJ, ?We Need Help? 8.04.01 New York NY, ?We Need Help? 8.05.01 New York NY, Brownies 8.06.01 Washington DC, The Black Cat, http://wwww.blackcatdc.com 8.07.01 Greenville NC, Percolater Coffee House, All Ages 8.08.01 Knoxville TN, Pilot Light, http://www.thepilotlight.com 8.09.01 New Orleans LA, Mermaid Lounge, http://turducken.net/ 8.10.01 Austin TX, Emos w/ Pinback and Knife in the Water All Ages 8.11.01 Houston TX, Rice University, Sammy's Coffee House All Ages 8.13.01 Albuquerque NM, ?We Need Help? 8.14.01 Phoenix AZ, Modified, All Ages 8.15.01 Los Angeles CA, The Smell, w/ Aspects of Physics All Ages 8.16.01 Santa Ana CA, Koo's Cafe, w/ Oma Yang + more All Ages 8.17.01 San Diego CA, The Che Cafe, w/ The Album Leaf and Oma Yang All Ages http://www.checafe.com 8.18.01 San Diego CA, The Casbah, w/ Tristeza and Pleasure Forever 21+, $7, http://www.casbahmusic.com From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jun 26 20:03:51 2001 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:03:51 -0400 Subject: BRAIN/BOC: To Helen With Love, a fuller review In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F6691@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: >lover's loan is an interesting lil rocker, Its the first track on >the disc to feature Buck and the >Bouchards, which makes it historically significant for all you BOC fans out >there. Was this the first song that the three of them recorded for the >album? Yes, it was. >Will to Survive has Jack Secret on main vocals and the Bouchard Bros. on >duty. Its a cool bluesy rocker with good cowbell and harmonica to add to the >heavy sound and feel of the track. Would >be a cool live number. Creepy chorus : "Why haven't I died? it's the will >to survive". a good defiant attitude track. Who does the organ in the song? I played some "sweetening" keys in WTS (I was going for that "Mr. Soul" sound from Buffalo Springfield Again), NF and COF. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jun 26 20:04:31 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:04:31 -0400 Subject: OFF: Summer Solstice Spacefest 2001 (brief belated review) Message-ID: Space Music was alive and well in San Francisco the previous friday (6/19), with the Summer Solstice Spacefest held at the warehouse/gallery CELLspace, as a benefit for the SF Bicycle Coalition (a great cause if there ever was one!). Unfortunately, I missed the first band, the Neurohumors (described as space jazz ... the JAZZ orientation seems to be as much a common thread through these bands as the space one), and arrived in the middle of Subarachnoid Space's set. I've seen the band probably a dozen times (they're ALWAYS on the bill when good space/psych bands come through town), so I'm probably a bit more jaded on them than folks who have only heard their albums are. That being said, they turned out one of the best sets I've seen them do, with a lot of variety from sparse melodic stuff to heavy-duty CRUNCH. And guitarist Mason Jones is up to TWO huge pedalboards now ... FX galore! pictures can be seen at: http://www.unpronounceable.com/digital/subarachnoidspace/thumbnails.html Up next was Cookin' With Kurt - Kurt Stenzo and his collection of synths, along with a jazzy (there we go again!) rhythm section. I was quite pleased with the groove the rhythm section had going, occasionally delving into more of a krautrock than a jazz vibe. Interesting and well-played throughout. The final band was Mushroom. I'll withold commentary due to lack of unbiased perspective. Console yourself with the photos here (yes, that's yrs truly in the lab coat): http://www.unpronounceable.com/digital/mushroom/ Closing the show was Jai Young Kim, playing ambient/minimalist sampler, synth & software synth. The start of his set was almost too minimal (although I suppose that's a good way to close the show at the end of the night), but once he started adding a bit of dynamicism beyond constant drones, his music sounded quite cool. In addition to the music, there were multiple projections in the room, randing from original abstract computer-generated psychedelic images to clips from classic (or B-grade) sci-fi films, which certainly contributed to the overall vibe. Attendance probably could have been better, but there was still a good crowd, who were obviously enjoying spacing out. Wish y'all could've been there ... (the next like event might even be worth the trip up for southern CA space music fans) ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Tue Jun 26 20:49:34 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Timothy E Elliott) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:49:34 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM Message-ID: couldn't agree more...at least they're not doing the oldies classic rock thing...nice in it's place, but also good to see a few bands (boc&hawk)that still put out albums. who knows,10 years from know you may be saying...`but it's not as classic as COtHm!! heathcliff Nick English wrote: > > Thank you, Theo, for bringing things back to the > positive side. It's been kind of a downer lately the > way people have been expressing their disappointment > with Curse. Not that I think their opinions > are "wrong". . . it's just that I like this album -- > even though it's not "Secret Treaties II" -- and I'm > kinda sad that more fans aren't celebrating what's good > about it, which is actually quite a bit if you ask me. > > In addition to classic rockers changing over time, I > think classic rock FANS change over time as well. We > can't wear our mullets forever, after all. > > I'm in such a different place than I was when I first > became a BOC fan. I've got two youngsters running > around, a mortgage, two car payments, etc. I'm not > looking for rock and roll to fulfill my life in any > way -- just make it a little more fun. And -- horror > of horrors -- I could not possibly care less what the > saga of Imaginos is about, what order the songs should > be in or what may have happened to him after the album > ended. I do, however, think it's an extremely cool > album. > > I also think Curse is an extremely cool album. And I'm > going to continue to do so. > > --Nick > > > > The sad fact of being a fan of classic rockers is > that you have to > > compromise a bit. Most people simply run out of > ideas over time, > > and considering that B?C lost so many crucial > songwriting > > contributors over the years, it's surprising they can > put out albums > > at all. Remember, after 30 years in the business, > most people don't > > have the same fire for writing. As their lives > change and become > > more mature and loaded with responsibilities, their > approach to > > songwriting changes. Except Lemmy, but let's face > it, if you own > > one Motorhead album, you've got 'em all... > > > > > > This is a sad realization for me.. I've > > > been a fan since 1974 and BOC will always hold a > soft spot in my black > > > heart for no other reason than being the creators > of the soundtrack of > > > my life.. But I find the current incarnation of BOC > to be bland, > > > uninteresting and unintentionally funny (like a B- > Movie). > > > > > Hmm...do you think their live shows are bad too? I > agree with a lot > > of what you say, but I think you're expectations are > unreasonably > > high... > > > > > > > You can't go back, I guess... > > > > > > JB > > > > > No, you can't. But consider this: how pathetic > would it be if B?C > > intentionally tried to recreate Secret Treaties? At > least CotHM isn't > > afraid to explore new stuff. For that matter, B?C in > their heyday > > never came close to Secret Treaties, even when AB, > JB, RM and > > SP were still aboard. Times change, and you have to > decide if > > there's enough interesting music left for you to > enjoy. For me, there > > is. BD's playing is better than it's ever been, esp. > live, there's no > > comparison. the only real objection I've got to > CotHM is some of > > the lyrics, not all of them. True, there's a lot of > power pop on it, but > > I bet most of us liked Flat Out when it was released! > > > > theo > > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jun 26 21:22:53 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:22:53 EDT Subject: OFF: When the well runs dry (was: BOC: CotHM) Message-ID: In a message dated 6/26/01 8:51:24 PM, ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: << Remember, after 30 years in the business, > most people don't > > have the same fire for writing. As their lives > change and become > > more mature and loaded with responsibilities, their > approach to > > songwriting changes. ====== well, song ideas kinda just pop out of your head [to which one may have been accustomed] or they do not. and when they dont, one might think "what's wrong? where did they go? what have i done" ==== lolol Duke Ellington was apparently an exception to this.... but rock music is generally not scored on paper. i dont understand why such an ability would be _finite_, and yet... i wrote about 4 lp's worth of stuff [as if y'all noticed] it's not as if this hinges upon financial "success" that would _not_ be a condition of one doing it. but there's a lot to be said for paying the bills, so... i have yet to figure it all out. ==== no viagra for rock songwriters... "<>" From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Jun 26 21:57:46 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:57:46 -0400 Subject: BOC: BOC Moment Message-ID: Watching Witchblade tonight. They played almost all of Don't Fear the Reaper over the ending sequences of the show. Cool Mike From mlooney20 at HOME.COM Tue Jun 26 22:08:26 2001 From: mlooney20 at HOME.COM (mike looney) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:08:26 -0500 Subject: BOC: Random BOC pop culture reference Message-ID: The TNT show "Witchblade" today ended the show with "Don't fear the Reaper" as the back ground music for the last scene. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue Jun 26 22:25:32 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:25:32 -0400 Subject: BOC: Lemmy on the dots Message-ID: According to this special issue of Q magazine on album covers, in the Motorhead "Bomber" Article, Lemmy cites ripping the infamous O punctuation off of Blue Oyster Cult. From rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM Tue Jun 26 22:29:21 2001 From: rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM (RPManny) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:29:21 -0400 Subject: BOC: Reissues Message-ID: Dear Brian, Thanks for the reminding me about the new releases. Picked 'em up tonight. Wow. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:36 PM Subject: BOC: Reissues > http://legacyrecordings.com/boc/flash.html > > The Flash programmer must have been reading BOC-L lately. Why else would the > intro contain the words, "God save Blue Oyster Cult from themselves?"* > > Anyway, the first four reissues are supposedly out now and the above is a > nice overhaul of the site SONY used to promote the Workshop of the > Telescopes set. > > > > * No, really, I like Curse of the Hidden Mirror...It has it's downside, but > I enjoy it as a whole and it's a lot better than Heaven Forbid. And even HF > was better than Club Ninja or most of Revolution By Night. > > Brian > NP> New Race "The First and The Last" > (but looking forward to "To Helen With Love") > > -- > Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower > MP3 Radio > Updated Semi-Occasionally > http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue Jun 26 22:28:07 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:28:07 -0400 Subject: BOC: Reissues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A recon of the local For Your Entertainment, Best Buy and Borders had no remasters.. though the touchscreen music index at FYE listed the remasters as released 6/26. printers devil Jason From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jun 26 12:57:25 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:57:25 +0100 Subject: Brief Donnington report Message-ID: Hi to Keith, Neil, Marie and all the others I met, sorry to have missed you Mike, well, managed to get my weekend home from Germany sorted out at the last minute, but with project sign uder way it was touch and go as to whether I'd actually be on the plane or not, and I'm glad I made it. > Assault and Battery > The Golden Void > The Money Tree > Spiral Galaxy > Deathtrap > Sonic Attack (with Dumpy guesting on vocals) > Rocky Paths > Moonglum > Hassan I Sabha/Space is Their Palestine > Hurry On Sundown (encore) The full set list (I think) was: Assault & Battery Golden Void Money Tree Death Trap Moonglum Rocky Paths Needle Gun Angels of Death Sonic Attack Flying Doctor Hassan I Sabha/Space Is Their Palestine Encore: Spiral Galaxy (without Dave) Motorway City Hurry On Sundown Huw was on top form that night, after a slightly shaky start to Moonglum (caused by feedback problems his vocal mike being switched off). Easily the best I've seen him play in a long time. Jerry was much more prominent in the mix too, giving a scorching solo in Golden Void. Needle Gun was good to hear again, Blackheath having been the only other time I'd heard it played in the last 10 years or so. Sonic Attck provided the only weak point for me, as drifted into the musical eighties album version rather than the threatening sonic assault it should be. Top gig indeed, and good to hear a strong selection from the eighties, although I did miss the likes of You'd Better Believe It and Space is Deep. Still, there was a curfew. Roll on Canterbury, I'll definitely not be making it to Norwich. Nick From dahl at AROS.NET Wed Jun 27 02:30:49 2001 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 00:30:49 -0600 Subject: BOC: tRBN Message-ID: >>>there seems quite a bit of antipathy toward tRBN. When it came out, I was pretty happy with it, though I don't listen to it much anymore, primarily because I don't have it on CD--waiting for the reissue! It is my least favorite BOC album, and the only one (pre HF) that I don't have on vinyl. Thanks to this list and Theo, I will listen to it on my way to work tomorrow and report back. Does anybody know if BOC ever played "I am the Storm" live? When I first got Mirrors I figured it was the most rockin' song on there and would for sure be a part of the set. I even think it was the first song to get radio play in LA off the album. Who would have thought that Dr. Music would have been the song from that album to stand the test of time in the set list? Brad From wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET Wed Jun 27 02:42:53 2001 From: wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET (Warrick Bell) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 02:42:53 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM, some analysis and comment Message-ID: Well, I got this about a week ago, and on first listen it didn't even catch as much as HF did. I have to say it's growing on me though. To me it seems that there are very definite attempts to regain some sounds and harmonies that were in the 'old' BOC, though it seems at times to suffer from a desire to sound like a generic unimaginative hard-rock band. I think in part the more 'riff-like' sound stems from some unimaginative choruses, but it's also in part driven by Rondinelli's drumming; however I don't think it's all his fault. Now, I think Bobby's a competent drummer, but there are times to use double pedals on the bass and times to not. To me it seems he hasn't quite settled into a comfortable spot with the rest of the band yet, in the way that Miranda has. There are a few scattered time changes here and there on the album but I don't think the band has tried to exercise Bobby too much with these yet--has Rainbow ever been known for the intricacies of its time signatures? I like the complexity of some of the harmonies on this album very much. One Step Ahead of the Devil even has Bouchard-esque high-pitched backing vocals! And yes, Eric's voice is certainly in wonderful form, if only he had something decent to sing. I think most people have agreed so far that many of the lyrics on this album really aren't up to much. I don't have a problem with Pocket's "particular second" harmonies, though the first time through they gave me pause. I think that's part of the interest of Pocket and those lyrics: you stop and listen and try to figure out what's going on. I quite like it as a lyric, as a textural sound, and for adding an interesting lyric rhythm to the song. Something I don't quite yet understand about this album is the title. The only reference to it I've been able to hear is a mention of "tears on my mirror" in Here Comes That Feeling. No mention of curses, and nothing really hidden anywhere. So why the title? The cover art fits with the title and with some of the tracks but doesn't really work if you take the album as a whole construction; that said, it's their best cover art for some time. With great art and a great title like that, and a legacy to base it on, some really impressive ideas for songs and production ideas leap up and scream at you but it seems to me that the title isn't really connected to most of the album tracks. Which brings us to the production. Clean and tight. Bright and shiny. Slick and polished. As someone else said recently, there's very little grit and fuzz. Mess it up a little, Buck! We can take it! (Dare we hope for a return of the stun guitar??) I doubt this album is being released on vinyl but probably not even that would improve the sound quality and mix enough to make this sound like a really fine record. Still, this one's a little more "put together" than HF, as other writers have already noted. Now a few song comments: -There's not really any acceptable justification for I Just Like to be Bad. Is this the worst BOC song of all time? Not even White Flags and Make Rock Not War make me cringe this much. -Good to Feel Hungry, even though its bass riff gets a little tiresome after a while, has some old-BOC feel; those keyboards are great!! I think they're mostly Allen; if they are, he's in great form and the band has really let him go for it (if it's Allen and he's jamming, why doesn't he get a writing credit?). -The Old Gods Return has something of a CE/FoUO feel to it, though the keyboards should be more prominent to make it truly spooky. Eric manages to get in a few fine shouts and it could become a great BOC track given time and perhaps some reworking in a live setting. -I found myself humming Pocket to myself earlier today; it's growing on me more and more, as seems to happen with a lot of Buck's songs. -I also like Dance on Stilts a lot, and I think it works quite well as an album opener. Again, more of Allen's subtle magic here would bring this one up to being a really great track. -Eye of the Hurricane is a fine track with some nice wordplay in the lyrics and a strong chorus section that actually benefits from some repetition. And lastly: Do I just not /get/ The Brain Surgeons? Am I missing something somewhere? I have the mp3 files from mp3.com and I have Eponymous, but they just don't do anything to me. Can anyone tell me what I'm supposed to get excited about? And if you want to pick apart silly, awkward lyrics, you've got to look at tBS as well as J. Shirley! Warrick Bell "Census Makes Gains in Reducing Number of People Not Counted" --New York Times, 14 February 2001 From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 04:33:09 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:33:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer, the Beans In-Reply-To: <97DggBAET0N7EwYm@hermit0.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <97DggBAET0N7EwYm at hermit0.demon.co.uk>, Nick Medford writes >But yeah, from listening to Magazine it's impossible (and that's putting it >mildly) to imagine them having the kind of stage-show for which the Tubes >were celebrated. inasmuch as Devoto didn't get his nob out onstage and ask if anyone wanted to fight him, no! -- Jon From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 27 04:46:55 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:16:55 +0930 Subject: big happy smiles everybody!!! off Message-ID: you heard me!!! 8>) Michael From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 04:53:06 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:53:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer In-Reply-To: <200106251234.IAA16585@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200106251234.IAA16585 at listserv.spc.edu>, Moonglum writes >>>Prog punk. An act not many pulled off. > >EXACTLY. When Nick asked the original question ("wot's...uh..the deal?") >that was the answer we were all looking for! Well done JJ cheers, but me am different Jon. me am Bizarro Jon. -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 05:03:42 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:03:42 +0100 Subject: A fan + some other things too In-Reply-To: <4327A1883D21D311AC9400508B0A1B9E06AFB12D@ntguslaexs1.global.jnj.com> Message-ID: In article <4327A1883D21D311AC9400508B0A1B9E06AFB12D at ntguslaexs1.global. jnj.com>, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] writes >I spoke to Mark Mothersbaugh of DEVO a couple of years ago while waiting in >line to see >Cluster. That's got a bit a ring to it, hasn't it? "I spoke to Mark Mothersbaugh in a line for Cluster" nice -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 05:05:49 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:05:49 +0100 Subject: A fan In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010625134120.01988100@easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <4.2.0.58.20010625134120.01988100 at easynet.co.uk>, gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK writes >How about the Exploited being HW fans... never thought that possible >eh?!? But true nonetheless! >Ah well, back to the medication... > >Dave and The Damned, as you are no doubt aware, Dave. -- Jon From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 27 05:26:10 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:26:10 +0100 Subject: Brief Donnington report In-Reply-To: Nick Lee's message of Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:57:25 +0100 Message-ID: Nick Lee writes: > Hi to Keith, Neil, Marie and all the others I met, sorry to have missed you > Mike, I did see you, but was in a bit of a hurry to get positioned for taping. Sorry. Catcha for a chat next time... > well, managed to get my weekend home from Germany sorted out at the last > minute, but with project sign uder way it was touch and go as to whether I'd > actually be on the plane or not, and I'm glad I made it. > > > Assault and Battery > > The Golden Void > > The Money Tree > > Spiral Galaxy > > Deathtrap > > Sonic Attack (with Dumpy guesting on vocals) > > Rocky Paths > > Moonglum > > Hassan I Sabha/Space is Their Palestine > > Hurry On Sundown (encore) > > The full set list (I think) was: > > Assault & Battery > Golden Void > Money Tree > Death Trap > Moonglum > Rocky Paths > Needle Gun > Angels of Death > Sonic Attack > Flying Doctor > Hassan I Sabha/Space Is Their Palestine > > Encore: > > Spiral Galaxy (without Dave) > Motorway City > Hurry On Sundown Hard to believe I forgot about Flying Doctor! Thanks for the list. FoFP From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Jun 27 05:39:39 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 04:39:39 -0500 Subject: HW: A fan + some other things too Message-ID: NO!NO! The 97 show was in the THEATRE. I was there too!!STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Doug Pearson [mailto:jasret at MINDSPRING.COM] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:50 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: A fan + some other things too On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:17:22 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >Bernhard said... > >>TOWN: HALL: DATE: DAY: >>Cleveland Phantasy Club 30.09.1989 Sat >>Cleveland Phantasy Theatre 26.08.1997 Tue > >To be really anal about this... > >But these should be the other way around. The '89 show was in the Phantasy >Theatre (the big place) - (I was there, so I'm sure of that), and I assume >that the '97 show was in the upstairs Night Club (the one with the ship). >Although I can't say for sure 'cause I wasn't there. But I don't think the >Theatre part has been used in quite a long time. BZZT! (Sorry, Keith.) I was at the '97 show, and it WAS at the downstairs Phantasy Theatre. I do remember someone mentioning that this may have been the first time it had been used in several years (I'm sure Jim Lascko could verify any details) ... However, I assume that you're correct about the '89 show also being in the Theatre (I wasn't at that one!). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jun 27 07:28:22 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:28:22 EDT Subject: BOC: tRBN In-Reply-To: <007201c0fed2$b5a43a00$8d19adcf@sony> Message-ID: On 27 Jun 2001, at 0:30, Brad Dahl wrote: > Does anybody know if BOC ever played "I am the Storm" live? When I > first got Mirrors I figured it was the most rockin' song on there and > would for sure be a part of the set. I even think it was the first > song to get radio play in LA off the album. Who would have thought > that Dr. Music would have been the song from that album to stand the > test of time in the set list? > I'm pretty sure they did play IAtS live on the Mirrors tour, but I can't swear to it... theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jun 27 08:03:47 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:03:47 EDT Subject: BOC: Reissues In-Reply-To: <001301c0feb0$fb5c4000$16062526@newmicronpc> Message-ID: On 26 Jun 2001, at 22:29, RPManny wrote: > Dear Brian, > Thanks for the reminding me about the new releases. Picked 'em up > tonight. Wow. > I got 2 last night. Somebody posted a source for getting them really cheap. Could you please re-post it? Haven't listened to them yet, but Media Play had all 4, but were changing 13 'bucks' for them. Seemed a little steep... theo From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Jun 27 08:08:17 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:08:17 +0100 Subject: BOC: Reissues In-Reply-To: <3B399364.15277.3680BD@localhost> Message-ID: > I got 2 last night. Somebody posted a source for getting them really > cheap. Could you please re-post it? That was probably me, amazon.co.uk have them at 7.99 but that's UK pounds not dollars (the listserv changed the pound sign to a question mark). Still cheap by our standards though... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Wed Jun 27 08:09:52 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:09:52 -0400 Subject: BOC: Reissues Message-ID: The Sony site I think listed them as 11.98 or so a disc. Best Busy is carrying CoTHM for 14 or so. >Haven't listened to them yet, but Media Play had all 4, but were >changing 13 'bucks' for them. Seemed a little steep... >theo BTW, that Q magazine thing about the Best album covers and Space Ritual in it, and a reference to Calvert's Lockheed under Motorhead's "Bomber" cover. nice. From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Jun 27 09:02:21 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:02:21 -0400 Subject: BOC: Reissues In-Reply-To: <3B38C198.12538.224FF67@localhost> Message-ID: > On 26 Jun 2001, at 17:03, Brian Halligan wrote: >> RbN also has >> Let Go and Eyes on Fire, two of my least favorite BOC tunes of all >> time. Theo replied: > Let Go was a joke all the way, hence acceptable... If I want blatant comedy in my rock 'n' roll, I'll go listen to Spinal Tap, or (666) Devil Got Your Mother. ;-) >> CotHM sounds very '80s to my ears. For all the problems with Heaven Forbid, >> it sounded more contemporary. >> > Interesting observation. I think CotHM is very slick and modern > sounding, maybe too polished a production. I agree about the production. It's more the instrumentation and harmonies. For some reason Heaven Forbid didn't strike me that way. > I think BD has taken a huge leap as a producer over the span of the 2 discs... Agreed. Brian NP> "To Helen With Love" The Brain Surgeons and Friends -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 09:22:16 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moon Glum) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:22:16 -0400 Subject: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:53:06 +0100, Jon Browne wrote: >In article <200106251234.IAA16585 at listserv.spc.edu>, Moonglum > writes >>>>Prog punk. An act not many pulled off. >> >>EXACTLY. When Nick asked the original question ("wot's...uh..the deal?") >>that was the answer we were all looking for! Well done JJ > >cheers, but me am different Jon. > >me am Bizarro Jon. >-- >Jon Browne ------------------------ So you are...my apologies...(Nick already rapped my knuckles) Moonglum From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Jun 27 09:40:44 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:40:44 -0400 Subject: BRAIN/BOC: CotHM, some analysis and comment In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20010627023800.009f2480@mail2.gis.net> Message-ID: Warrick Bell wrote: > Do I just not /get/ The Brain Surgeons? Am I missing something > somewhere? I don't think there's by any means a direct correlation between liking BOC and liking the Surgeons. So I can see how you might not be into them. I mean, what is it that you like about BOC? To me the Surgeons represent the weird, fun side of the original band. I also dig the Surgeons because they're funky, each album has featured different sounds within them (and between each album), the singing and playing have a rough edge (read: attitude), and the lyrics are quirky. Also, they're not as polished or even as commercial as BOC are today, but the Surgeons always throw in something unexpected into their songs. A rhythm, a lyric, Beavis & Butthead.... I like being surprised--it's the one common thread in almost all the music I enjoy. > And if you want to pick apart silly, awkward lyrics, > you've got to look at tBS as well as J. Shirley! Examples? OK, Eponymous is a little out there, but I don't hear anything close to being as clunky has I Just Like to Be Bad. The reason I don't like most of Shirley's lyrics is because they're too straightforward. I would say the Surgeons' lyrics (Deb's and those by Helen Wheels, R. Meltzer, Patty Smith, etc.) are more well thought out and fit better within the arrangements--even the silly ones. No...especially the silly ones. For example: Your bounty distracts me Ooh this kielbasa! And you're lookin' so fine Heh heh. Fun lines that fit really well within "Hansel & Gretel" from Trepanation. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Jun 27 09:44:53 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:44:53 -0400 Subject: ADMIN: Missing messages Message-ID: Hello Ben, I've been seeing replies to a lot of messages that I never received in the first place. Are some bouncing? I'm signed up for BOC, HW, and OFF, why am I not getting all of these? Let me know if there's anything I need to do on my end. Thanks, Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Jun 27 09:47:53 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:47:53 -0400 Subject: BOC: COTHM Message-ID: > > > by the way, I love the new album. One solid hour of good rockin' fun. > > > >EXACTLY! Frankly I was getting a bit tired of the complaints here about > >COTHM. Too much living in the past for my tastes. This album is > >getting LOTS of play in my CD player, and consensus of non-BOC-L fans is > >that this album is much better than Heaven Forbid. Doesn't measure up > >to Secret Treaties? That was 18 years ago! Give it a rest - enjoy the > > > > Eighteen years? Man, I knew I was dazed and tried to forget some of those > albums, but I think it was longer than that :-) > > I think its 27 years old. > ST came out in 1974 right? > Ah s**t, I meant to say 28 - which of course would still have been off by a year. The FAQ MAN has been spanked... John From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Wed Jun 27 10:00:13 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:00:13 -0400 Subject: BOC: COTHM Message-ID: >The FAQ MAN has been spanked... > (cough) Shouldn't that be an OFF topic? :) From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Jun 27 10:01:30 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:01:30 EDT Subject: OFF: Skinny Puppy Message-ID: The remains of Skinny Puppy will be playing in Houston TX tonite. The show billed as 'Ohgr' played dallas last night, did mikey go? Caught the show at the Limelight in NY last week...was great! The band will be heading off to the west coast to finish..not to be missed!! Regards, Bill Stewart From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Jun 27 10:02:22 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:02:22 EDT Subject: Porcupine Tree Message-ID: Tonite Bottom Line NYC ...door 6PM Bill From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 10:34:35 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:34:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Magazine, Wayne Kramer, the Beans Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:33:09 +0100, Jon Browne wrote: > >inasmuch as Devoto didn't get his nob out onstage and ask if anyone >wanted to fight him, no! I once saw Genesis P-Orridge get his nob out onstage and ask if anyone wanted to blow him (there weren't any takers on that occasion). Does that count? From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 27 10:39:58 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:09:58 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind ON subject Operah House gig Message-ID: Hi Hawk friends would some kind soul out there please give me any info on the Opera house gig coming up - which I believe is in (November? or late october?) I've been told the tickets have gone on sale..... More data please!!! url to the ticketing outlet even?? Michael B From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Jun 27 10:44:23 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:44:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind ON subject Operah House gig In-Reply-To: <005a01c0ff17$0ab8fc80$08cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: > would some kind soul out there please give me any info on the > Opera house gig coming up - which I believe is in (November? or > late october?) I've been told the tickets have gone on sale..... > > More data please!!! > > url to the ticketing outlet even?? This was posted yesterday: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0106d&L=boc-l&F=&S=&P=734 -- Andy www.andygilham.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Jun 27 11:03:08 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:03:08 EDT Subject: A fan Message-ID: In a message dated 6/27/01 2:07:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > >How about the Exploited being HW fans... never thought that possible > >eh?!? But true nonetheless! > >Ah well, back to the medication... > > > >Dave > > and The Damned, as you are no doubt aware, Dave. > -- > Jon ...not at all punk, but about five years ago I read an interview w/the Swedish (I think) band Tiamat and when asked what he (the lead-guy) was asked what music he'd been listening to, he simply replied "Hawkwind". They were a great band for a while, btw, the album Clouds is excellent, at times spacey, Euro-doom-death (barely much of the latter). Kinda fits in with the whole Amorphis vibe (who covered "Levitation", of course). Interesting to finally see some more metal/HW cross-over, but if figures that metal first had to start up the whole industrial/gothic off-shoots as it began to around '90 (though Floyd was always the band refered to by metal critics and musicians whenever something was atmspheric or spacey). And then there's the classic fantasy-metal band of the '80s Manilla Road (who Scott Heller interviewed back in the day). The Shark (MR's mainman) is a monster HW fan, and lets it leak out in his lyrics occasionally... a wide range of music fans that HW can appeal to... Chuck From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 27 11:08:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:38:45 +0930 Subject: HW: Hawkwind ON subject Operah House gig Message-ID: Cheers Andy - Tickets ordered!! yee hooo - more dates around November would be geeroovy!! More more!!! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:14 AM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind ON subject Operah House gig > > would some kind soul out there please give me any info on the > > Opera house gig coming up - which I believe is in (November? or > > late october?) I've been told the tickets have gone on sale..... > > > > More data please!!! > > > > url to the ticketing outlet even?? > > This was posted yesterday: > > http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0106d&L=boc-l&F=&S=&P=734 > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 11:05:08 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:05:08 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind ON subject Operah House gig In-Reply-To: <005a01c0ff17$0ab8fc80$08cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: In article <005a01c0ff17$0ab8fc80$08cd223f at michaelangelo68>, Mich at el B writes >Hi Hawk friends > >would some kind soul out there please give me any info on the Opera house gig >coming up - which I believe is in (November? or late october?) I've been told >the tickets have gone on sale..... > >More data please!!! > >url to the ticketing outlet even?? http://www.newcastleoperahouse.com/hawkwind.htm -- David Blair From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 11:44:45 2001 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:44:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: Skinny Puppy In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:01:30 EDT." <127.9df74e.286b413a@aol.com> Message-ID: > The remains of Skinny Puppy will be playing in Houston TX tonite. The show > billed as 'Ohgr' played dallas last night, did mikey go? Caught the show at > the Limelight in NY last week...was great! The band will be heading off to > the west coast to finish..not to be missed!! Surely its just Nivek Ogre these days ? I've seen the Oghr CD in the shops - what phase of SP does it resemble ( I dig Mind:TPI but didn't much care for Too Dark Park) What does cevin key do these days ? Its been a while since the excellent download III album Tim From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Wed Jun 27 11:57:50 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:57:50 -0400 Subject: BOC: ST and AoF remaster first go-round Message-ID: Great job soundwise. The extra tracks ROCK. I cannot capitalize that word enough... FoUO's first verison sounds nothing like its 1980's counterpart. Its a lot different, as is Sally from the Brain Surgeons rendition. more later. must rock out now. Jason From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 12:10:50 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:10:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: Song titles In-Reply-To: <200106250957.FAA16159@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200106250957.FAA16159 at listserv.spc.edu>, Nick Medford writes >I always liked the Psychedelic Furs' title "Into >You Like A Train" though the song was nothing special. > >NM d00d! Its a BRILLIANT song! -- Jon From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 12:48:05 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:48:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: Song titles Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:10:50 +0100, Jon Browne wrote: "Into >>You Like A Train" though the song was nothing special. >d00d! Its a BRILLIANT song! Is it? It must be at least a decade since I played that album, can't even remember the LP title. I tried with the Furs, honest I did, but was never convinced... could never acquire the taste for the vocals for one thing (and as an Ubu fan I'm pretty open-minded on such things...)... "Dumb Waiters" and "All Of This and Nothing" were good 'uns, but not much else grabbed me. Maybe a re-evaluatory spin is in order. Re-evaluatory spins are great. Very illuminating. (Although sometimes they result in ego-crushing trips to the Record and Tape Exchange to brave the sneers of the ultra-hip staff as one sheepishly asks "how much for these?", while gingerly pushing a clutch of Yes albums across the counter.) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 27 12:52:07 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:52:07 +0100 Subject: Tips on selling on Ebay? Message-ID: I'm considering selling or auctioning some items on Ebay. Can anyone offer tips on how to go about this efficiently? Ta. FoFP From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 12:17:33 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:17:33 +0100 Subject: HW: getting your nob out onstage In-Reply-To: <200106271434.KAA02190@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200106271434.KAA02190 at listserv.spc.edu>, Nick Medford writes > >> >>inasmuch as Devoto didn't get his nob out onstage and ask if anyone >>wanted to fight him, no! > >I once saw Genesis P-Orridge get his nob out onstage and ask if anyone >wanted to blow him (there weren't any takers on that occasion). Does that >count? I saw Iggy Pop go a whole gig with his nob INSIDE his troo's. I used to have a pic of Bob Calvert strutting his funky nekkid ass at a HW gig. It was captioned as being in Richmond Park, but I've lived in Richmond all my life and there's never been any gigs since I can remember. This was around 1972 so it would have been before my time, however. -- Jon, with his nob out. Rock 'n 'Roll. From kruch7 at HOME.COM Wed Jun 27 13:06:14 2001 From: kruch7 at HOME.COM (Joseph Elric Smith: Servant of Arioch: Lord of the Seven Darks) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:06:14 -0400 Subject: Tips on selling on Ebay? Message-ID: don't give us a chance first?. but other wise be honest, and provide as much detail as possible, and use a pay service like paypal, to speed up your payment, and be quick to give good feed back, when it is warranted. Ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics. Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 12:52 PM Subject: Tips on selling on Ebay? > I'm considering selling or auctioning some items on Ebay. Can anyone > offer tips on how to go about this efficiently? > > Ta. > > FoFP From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Jun 27 13:04:20 2001 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:04:20 -0700 Subject: BOC: CotHM (long) Message-ID: Well, I may be negative but at least I got people talking about BOC again, eh? (this is, after all, BOC-L, right?) Ok, here we go. Quoting from various replies from digest... -=snip=- Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:04:47 EDT From: Ted Jackson Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM Yeah, same way the Stones will never make another Beggar's Banquet, ZZ Top will never remake Tres Hombres, on and on... Name one band that's still making stuff that compares to their classic albums? Personally, I think Jeff Beck's new stuff stands real tall, but he's changed directions several times, and I suspect that a lot of old fans hate his 'techno' stuff and bemoan that it's not 'Truth...' -=snip=- Very true. My expectations may be unreasonable and if they were reading this, the band would get my most sincere apologies for this. You have to understand what an impact BOC had on my early years. I can't help but have unrealistic expectations. I was 14 when I first saw the band back in '74.. Those first few years of BOC fanhood left an indelible (excuse my spelling, still on first cup of coffee) mark on my musical soul more than any other band that I can think of. So much so that nearly 3 decades later, I'm still trying to recapture that feeling. It may not be fair to the band but there it is... -=snip=- The sad fact of being a fan of classic rockers is that you have to compromise a bit. Most people simply run out of ideas over time, and considering that B?C lost so many crucial songwriting contributors over the years, it's surprising they can put out albums at all. -=snip=- I realize this but that doesn't mean I can accept it on an emotional level. I don't REALLY expect "Secret Treaties II" (I just used that to make a point) but that doesn't mean that I don't WANT it. I just wish they could at least come close, not in style neccesarly but in intensity, class and pure inspiration. We all want to recapture our youth. BOC, for me, totally represents my youth.. I want it back, dammit! (toothless grin). -=snip=- Except Lemmy, but let's face it, if you own one Motorhead album, you've got 'em all... -=snip=- Bad example (for me anyway). I consider even HF/CotHM or Club Ninja lyrics to be vastly better than any Lemmy/Hawkwind lyric I've ever heard (admittedly, I haven't heard that much. The hackneyed psuedo poetry of "Space Ritual" was enough to convince me of that.. Apologies to all you Hawkies out there...) -=snip=- Hmm...do you think their live shows are bad too? I agree with a lot of what you say, but I think you're expectations are unreasonably high... -=snip=- No, I still enjoy them live, the last few times I've seen them.. (its been about 2 years). But again, you must understand, I am a natural born critic and rip into everything, regardless of how much I like it. I can find something wrong with *anything*. Its just my opinionated nature and bad taste to spout off about it in public. That being said, even live, I find the shows to be predictable and somewhat stale. Buck, Eric.. suprise us.. Drop the BIG 3 for a year and see how it goes... -=snip=- > You can't go back, I guess... > > JB > No, you can't. But consider this: how pathetic would it be if B?C intentionally tried to recreate Secret Treaties? At least CotHM isn't afraid to explore new stuff. -=snip=- Pretty pathetic, I fear. And thats the crux of it I guess and why I get my ninnies all rigid about it. I want BOC to have a career (of Evil?). I WANT to like CotHM.. I really do. I'm trying. I just can't get away from the feeling that they're just going through the motions. Not that I blame them.. If the muse has fled, what are they supposed to do? Can you picture EB as a manager at Sears? An insurance salesman? (ok, maybe a Car salesman... ;). (Hows that for working in 3 BOC lyrics into one inane paragraph? hehe) -=snip=- For that matter, B?C in their heyday never came close to Secret Treaties, even when AB, JB, RM and SP were still aboard. Times change, and you have to decide if there's enough interesting music left for you to enjoy. For me, there is. BD's playing is better than it's ever been, esp. live, there's no comparison. the only real objection I've got to CotHM is some of the lyrics, not all of them. True, there's a lot of power pop on it, but I bet most of us liked Flat Out when it was released! theo -=snip=- Oh my god.. You've made me think that for all these years, I've been not a BOC fan but a Pearlman/Meltzer/Bouchard fan? Hmmm... Nah... Good post, Theo. Thanks for making me think. -=snip=- Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:27:59 -0400 From: Nick English Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM In addition to classic rockers changing over time, I think classic rock FANS change over time as well. We can't wear our mullets forever, after all. -=snip=- I never wore a mullet, thank you. Long and stringy was my hair gig... :) -=snip=- I'm in such a different place than I was when I first became a BOC fan. I've got two youngsters running around, a mortgage, two car payments, etc. I'm not looking for rock and roll to fulfill my life in any way -- just make it a little more fun. -=snip=- Ditto on the adulthood thing. Maybe thats my problem? DO I expect too much from my music at this late date? -=snip=- And -- horror of horrors -- I could not possibly care less what the saga of Imaginos is about, what order the songs should be in or what may have happened to him after the album ended. I do, however, think it's an extremely cool album. -=snip=- My first though when Imaginos came out was.. "They're back!" and all was right with the world. I just love that album. To be honest, except for Imaginos which was sort of a psuedo-BOC album, I've been disappointed with everything they've done since CE. But I hang on for some demented reason (see above) and hope... -=snip=- Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:05:58 +0100 From: Kirsten Procter Subject: Re: BOC: CotHM True. And every new generation of rock fans changes the way rock works. But Idon't think Curse lives up to that well. Having said that, I don't dislike the album and will continue to listen to it, I just hoped for more. Kirsten -- Kirsten Procter ghoti NP:Farflung - the Myth of Solid Ground -=snip=- I couldn't say it any better... -=snip=- Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:21:31 -0400 From: "John A. Swartz" Subject: BOC: COTHM > by the way, I love the new album. One solid hour of good rockin' fun. > EXACTLY! Frankly I was getting a bit tired of the complaints here about COTHM. Too much living in the past for my tastes. -=snip=- BOC has its roots in my past. How can I do otherwise? Should we blindly accept without reservations or criticism? I know I'm negative but its not as easy as you think for me to rip into a band that has been with me for 30 years. Its a dirty job but someone has to do it... I'm just saying it how I see it. I can't help the way I feel about it. Mom always said, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. But I don't think thats appropriate here. Do you? -=snip=- This album is getting LOTS of play in my CD player, and consensus of non-BOC-L fans is that this album is much better than Heaven Forbid. Doesn't measure up to Secret Treaties? That was 18 years ago! Give it a rest - enjoy the album, or don't. -=snip=- Agreed (that its better than HF) but all artists will forever be held up to the yardstick of their greatest work. Its inevetable.. All bands have their swan song and spend the rest of their careers trying to live up to that moment. Some come close, some fail miserably, few surpass. -=snip=- But unless you've been living under a rock for 10 years, you'd probably realize that this album represents who BOC is TODAY very accurately. -=snip=- Sadly, you are correct, sir. Damn, there were a few more I wanted to reply to but my boss is giving me the fish-eye so I'm outta time! (I know, thats probably a *good* thing :) JB From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jun 27 13:08:22 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:08:22 EDT Subject: BOC: ST and AoF remaster first go-round In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F66A3@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: On 27 Jun 2001, at 11:57, Scruton, Jason wrote: > Great job soundwise. > The extra tracks ROCK. I cannot capitalize that word enough... > > FoUO's first verison sounds nothing like its 1980's counterpart. Its a > lot different, as is Sally from the Brain Surgeons rendition. > I've got ST at home, haven't heard it yet. BOC, one spin so far, and it's great, esp. the vocals. Anyone else? theo From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 13:10:56 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:10:56 -0400 Subject: HW: getting your nob out onstage Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:17:33 +0100, Jon Browne wrote: >I saw Iggy Pop go a whole gig with his nob INSIDE his troo's. WHAT?? Outrage! Tsk, tsk. Don't these people realise that youngsters see them as role models? > > >I used to have a pic of Bob Calvert strutting his funky nekkid ass at a >HW gig. It was captioned as being in Richmond Park, but I've lived in >Richmond all my life and there's never been any gigs since I can >remember. This was around 1972 so it would have been before my time, >however. >-- >Jon, with his nob out. Rock 'n 'Roll. I saw the estimable Capt. Sensible in the buff onstage. Actually that's not quite true- he kept his beret and shades on, much to my relief. Some things are sacred, after all, and I wouldn't want to see him doing anything undignified. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jun 27 12:02:07 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:02:07 -0400 Subject: HW: getting your nob out onstage Message-ID: Jon the Nob answered Nick with... >>I once saw Genesis P-Orridge get his nob out onstage and ask if anyone >>wanted to blow him (there weren't any takers on that occasion). Does that >>count? Does GP-O still have a nob these days? I thought he decided to give another gender a try. >I saw Iggy Pop go a whole gig with his nob INSIDE his troo's. Um...troo? Should I know that term (thinking now really intensely to figure it out on my own through 'context,' but failing - wondering now if I'm too much a prude....silly thought) Grakkl (FAA), who was priviledged enough to witness Daevid Allen's nob, though the one person who was so overcome by emotion to go up onstage after the song to give him a (nope, not that! Just a) hug was a guy! Lucky him. From spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jun 27 13:31:17 2001 From: spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM (Space Wreck) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:31:17 -0700 Subject: Tips on selling on Ebay? In-Reply-To: <200106271652.RAA20742@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Here are a few things off the top of my head... Make sure you list the item in the appropriate category, since a lot of people just search by category. Spell everything correctly, since eBay searches won't find an item by Hakwwind. Use other key words in your item description that will pull in other bidders. For example, a listing for Dark Sun might not get much attention, but if you just add "sounds like Hawkwind meets Pink Floyd", the floodgates will open. Use an online pay service, like www.paypal.com, to enable bidders to pay by credit card. Clearly indicate all of the payment methods that you will accept. Provide prompt positive feedback for winners. Never leave negative feedback too quickly. Don't leave neutral feedback if the transaction was successful, but you had a minor quibble. Put a counter on the page. I believe eBay provides this as a free option now. This is mostly for your use, so that you can measure the popularity of the item. I think anything over 35 hits is pretty good. Protect yourself. Require the bidder to purchase insurance for valuable items. In the US, we have a delivery confirmation service that allows you to track the package on line at www.usps.gov, and it only costs 45 cents. No signature required on delivery. Must be something similar in the UK? Be sure to indicate in the auction text where you are willing to send the item. Do you really want to send it to Chile? Don't pay the extra charge for a 10-day auction, it really doesn't drive the bidding any higher, unless the item is incredibly rare. That's all I can think of! Be sure to post a pointer to your auction on BOC-L. MWood NP: Hawkwind - Dunstable, 1983 --- M Holmes wrote: > I'm considering selling or auctioning some items on Ebay. Can anyone > offer tips on how to go about this efficiently? > > Ta. > > FoFP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 13:34:17 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:34:17 -0400 Subject: HW: getting your nob out onstage Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:02:07 -0400, K Henderson wrote: > >Does GP-O still have a nob these days? I thought he decided to give another >gender a try. Well he definitely had one in the late 80s- it was adorned with a remarkable amount of metalwork and used to regularly appear in piercing magazines etc. However I did read that he and his current companion "Mistress Jackie" had embarked on a programme of surgery to become identical androgynous creatures, so I don't know his current packet-status. (This struck me as a little self-indulgent, even by Gen's high standards). > >Grakkl (FAA), who was priviledged enough to witness Daevid Allen's nob, >though the one person who was so overcome by emotion to go up onstage after >the song to give him a (nope, not that! Just a) hug was a guy! Lucky him. Yeah I read on the Gong newsgroup that the Alien banana had been exposed a number of times on the recent U of E tour. Some people were actually rather upset by this, which I found extraordinary, but there you go. (BTW troos= trousers, or "trahsers" if you come from London, "pants" if you come from the US). From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Wed Jun 27 13:31:06 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:31:06 -0400 Subject: BOC: a Remaster speculation. Message-ID: I noticed that the catalog no's. listed in the booklet of the remasters match up with the remasters. Since Imaginos isn't on the list, I take it we won't see a Blue Oyster Cult Collection version of the disc. Club Ninja isn't in the roster either. Workshop, Career of Evil: the Metal Years, Super hits,and DFtR: the Best of... are all noted. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jun 27 13:34:10 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:34:10 EDT Subject: BOC: CotHM (long) In-Reply-To: <4973895A322CD411A6B000A0C96E9611207504@C2> Message-ID: On 27 Jun 2001, at 10:04, Joseph Brooks wrote: > Very true. My expectations may be unreasonable and if they were > reading this, the band would get my most sincere apologies for this. > You have to understand what an impact BOC had on my early years. I > can't help but have unrealistic expectations. I was 14 when I first > saw the band back in '74.. Those first few years of BOC fanhood left > an indelible (excuse my spelling, still on first cup of coffee) mark > on my musical soul more than any other band that I can think of. So > much so that nearly 3 decades later, I'm still trying to recapture > that feeling. It may not be fair to the band but there it is... > Oh, I knew all along the source of your discomfort--it's the same for me. I was 19 when I discoverd B?C in earnest, and they had the exact same impact on me. I felt guilty in a way, because B?C caused me to rethink what music meant to me, and, as a result, made me abandon a lot of other bands that I'd previously doted on! And, hell yeah, they changed my life too, in a big way... > Bad example (for me anyway). I consider even HF/CotHM or Club Ninja > lyrics to be vastly better than any Lemmy/Hawkwind lyric I've ever > heard (admittedly, I haven't heard that much. The hackneyed psuedo > poetry of "Space Ritual" was enough to convince me of that.. Apologies > to all you Hawkies out there...) > Well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad! CN's hard to defend, and I had feelings similar to yours on CofHM when it came out. Own up, Brian, are you related to Rob Halligan--he's from Syracuse? I like Lemmy's lyrics big time for their simplicity, humor and visceral impact. Granted nobody's going to confuse it with WooT! Musically? Not enough lead playing on Motorhead's stuff to addict me, but I buy 'em when I see them in used shops... That being said, > even live, I find the shows to be predictable and somewhat stale. > Buck, Eric.. suprise us.. Drop the BIG 3 for a year and see how it > goes... No arguments here. Quality of the performances live is boffo, material selection isn't. But if they keep Teen Archer and Flaming Telepaths in the set, I'll go home happy even if I have to endure Godzilla. That song's a double problem for me: not only do B?C keep playing it live, but I was in a band that did it to death, and I had to play it about a hundred times when I was learning it, then playing it at countless gigs... > Pretty pathetic, I fear. And thats the crux of it I guess and why I > get my ninnies all rigid about it. I want BOC to have a career (of > Evil?). I WANT to like CotHM.. I really do. I'm trying. I just can't > get away from the feeling that they're just going through the motions. Hey, I totally respect where you're coming from, and appreciate it a lot more than if you were some mindless fanboy saying that everything B?C touches is gold--it isn't... Going thru the motions? No, I don't think so. I do think they're somehow blocked on the lyrics [though HM's lyrics are as good as anything the group's ever done] but the music's pretty sharp these days... > For that matter, B?C in their heyday > never came close to Secret Treaties, even when AB, JB, RM and > SP were still aboard. > > Oh my god.. You've made me think that for all these years, I've been > not a BOC fan but a Pearlman/Meltzer/Bouchard fan? Hmmm... Nah... > Well, it's possible...Al's had his share of misfires, but for sheer musical output, he's mighty prolific. RM? Huge impact on the band, and SP [ducking for cover]? Well, the early stuff's always been my fave, and it's got SP's stamp all over it. Maybe we're all bigger SP fans than we'd like to admit? > Good post, Theo. Thanks for making me think. Same back to ya, JB... I'm in such a different place than I was when I first > became a BOC fan. I've got two youngsters running > around, a mortgage, two car payments, etc. I'm not > looking for rock and roll to fulfill my life in any > way -- just make it a little more fun. > -=snip=- > > Ditto on the adulthood thing. Maybe thats my problem? DO I expect too > much from my music at this late date? > It's a tall order for a band to prolong our youth eh? > My first though when Imaginos came out was.. "They're back!" and all > was right with the world. I just love that album. To be honest, except > for Imaginos which was sort of a psuedo-BOC album, I've been > disappointed with everything they've done since CE. But I hang on for > some demented reason (see above) and hope... > Imaginos blew my mind when it came out. I was pretty crushed when I found out it wasn't a B?C album, and that the orig. group played very little on it. Still great stuff, and AB and SP's vindication... > > BOC has its roots in my past. How can I do otherwise? Should we > blindly accept without reservations or criticism? I know I'm negative > but its not as easy as you think for me to rip into a band that has > been with me for 30 years. Its a dirty job but someone has to do it... > I'm just saying it how I see it. I can't help the way I feel about it. Quite true. We should not accept without criticism. You have nothing to apologize for. It's obvious from your posts that your reservations are rooted in your admiratioin for the band. And, anyone who's been a fan since '74 has earned a right to criticize! theo From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 13:05:03 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:05:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: Song titles In-Reply-To: <200106271648.MAA03306@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200106271648.MAA03306 at listserv.spc.edu>, Nick Medford writes >Is it? It must be at least a decade since I played that album, can't even >remember the LP title. Talk Talk Talk, their 2nd. >I tried with the Furs, honest I did, but was never >convinced... could never acquire the taste for the vocals for one thing Fair enough. I can certainly understanding people not liking his voice. First two albums are terrific though, I reckon. First track on the first LP is devastating! India........ Only the first two LP's are *really* good, after that returns diminish rapidly, They played with Hawkwind, around 1980, and then again the next week with Inner City Unit. I missed both gigs. Chagrin is eternal. -- Jon 2 From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Jun 27 13:59:31 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:59:31 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM (long) In-Reply-To: <3B39E0D2.18134.16503CB@localhost> Message-ID: Theo wrote: > Own up, Brian, are > you related to Rob Halligan--he's from Syracuse? Not related, even though our families are from roughly the same area--although my Dad once told a girl in college that he was related to Dick Halligan of Blood Sweat & Tears (who *is* related to Bob Halligan). He wouldn't say if it got him anywhere.... And my parents own a Bob Halligan solo album and one from his new band Ceili Rain. Then again, my parents aren't really music fans. ;-) I will own up to having a soft spot in my heart for "Beat 'em Up." Yeah, I know, how can I hate "Let Go" and still like a Halligan tune? Beats me. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jun 27 14:08:14 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:08:14 EDT Subject: BOC: CotHM (long) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 27 Jun 2001, at 13:59, Brian Halligan wrote: > Theo wrote: > > Own up, Brian, are > > you related to Rob Halligan--he's from Syracuse? > > Not related, even though our families are from roughly the same > area--although my Dad once told a girl in college that he was related > to Dick Halligan of Blood Sweat & Tears (who *is* related to Bob > Halligan). He wouldn't say if it got him anywhere.... > > And my parents own a Bob Halligan solo album and one from his new band > Ceili Rain. Then again, my parents aren't really music fans. ;-) > > I will own up to having a soft spot in my heart for "Beat 'em Up." > Yeah, I know, how can I hate "Let Go" and still like a Halligan tune? > Beats me. > I went to high school with him! But he was a grade older--never knew him personally... theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Jun 27 14:23:12 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:23:12 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bob Halligan (was Re: CotHM (long)) In-Reply-To: <3B39E8CD.3645.18430CD@localhost> Message-ID: Theo wrote > I went to high school with him! But he was a grade older--never > knew him personally... Yeah, I remember you saying something about that a while back. Not your favorite songwriter/musician even back then IIRC.... So who's worse, Bob Halligan or John Shirley? I'd have to say Halligan was worse, because his tunes never came close to Shirley's lyrics for Pocket. On the other hand, Bob was a terrible writer for BOC, but give his BOC tunes to KISS (whom he also wrote for) and they're not as bad. I've never heard his stuff for Judas Priest. Any good? I Just Like to Be Bad wouldn't work for anyone that I can think of. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From Rob at JAZZBOX.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 13:46:46 2001 From: Rob at JAZZBOX.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Robert Robinson) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:46:46 +0100 Subject: BOC,and the Reaper is... Message-ID: Sebastian Bach???? >From the Totalrock newsletter: >Sebastian Bach is to appear in an episode of VH-1's series 'Strange Frequency'. The former Skid Row frontman will play the Reaper in an episode called 'Don't Fear The Reaper'. Apparently Sebastian had to spend three hours every day of the shoot being made up - and of course learning the words to the Blue Oyster Cult classic of the same title.< This sounds pretty scary to me already... cheers Rob From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Jun 27 14:29:38 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:29:38 -0400 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: Newcastle Opera House Anybody interested in information on The Newcastle Opera House try diving into http://www.newcastleoperahouse.com . The webpage for Hawkwind is http://www.newcastleoperahouse.com/hawkwind.htm . Could somebody please pass the URLs onto the BOC list. Sonnie Remember, anyone wanting to join in the bus trip from Edinburghandthenorth, private e-mail to info at the-rocker.co.uk From nick at NETPHD.NET Wed Jun 27 15:30:44 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:30:44 -0400 Subject: BOC,and the Reaper is... In-Reply-To: <004801c0ff35$c3a51760$3160893e@default> Message-ID: > >Sebastian Bach is to appear in an episode of VH-1's series 'Strange > Frequency'. The former Skid Row frontman will play the Reaper in an episode > called 'Don't Fear The Reaper'. Apparently Sebastian had to spend three > hours every day of the shoot being made up - and of course learning the > words to the Blue Oyster Cult classic of the same title.< > > This sounds pretty scary to me already... > cheers > Rob I think Bach has played the lead in Phantom of the Opera on stage, so there might actually be something to his acting ability. I just hope he doesn't SING Reaper. . . That might hurt. --Nick From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 15:53:06 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:53:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Newcastle Opera House Message-ID: Anybody interested in information on The Newcastle Opera House try diving into http://www.newcastleoperahouse.com . The webpage for Hawkwind is http://www.newcastleoperahouse.com/hawkwind.htm From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Jun 27 16:02:47 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:02:47 -0500 Subject: HW: november tour dates Message-ID: Hiya folks, In the first irc chat, it was mentioned that HW would be attempting to do a 10 date minitour in November. Out of curiosity, does anyone know what dates HW is playing in november and when? (14th at newcastle, 8th in birmingham, something in late october, but are any other dates (other than newcastle) confirmed? I'm attempting to plan vacation ;-) Also -- is Newcastle gettable by public transportation easily, or would it be better to rent a car or somesuch? (...and if it's better to rent a car, anyone want to go in for renting a van or something? haul around the country with a bunch of fans?) Thanks, Arin (from mission control, on the updates page) ADDITIONAL TOUR INFO : Later in the year we will be playing the Birmingham Sanctuary on 8th Nov, which is an all day thing with Ozrics etc. as well as the Royal Festival Hall in late October ('psychedelic weekend') We are also hoping to fit in Liverpool, Manchester and Newcastle around these dates to hopefully get about a 10 date mini-tour....... Complete details, more dates etc. to follow very shortly.....stay tuned -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Jun 27 14:14:15 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:14:15 +0100 Subject: ADMIN: Missing messages Message-ID: Me too - I think I'm missing a fair few. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: ADMIN: Missing messages > Hello Ben, > > I've been seeing replies to a lot of messages that I never received in the > first place. Are some bouncing? I'm signed up for BOC, HW, and OFF, why am I > not getting all of these? > > Let me know if there's anything I need to do on my end. > > Thanks, > Brian > > -- > Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower > MP3 Radio > Updated Semi-Occasionally > http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Jun 27 16:09:16 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:09:16 +0100 Subject: HW: november tour dates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Also -- is Newcastle gettable by public transportation easily, or would it > be better to rent a car or somesuch? Newcastle (upon Tyne) is one of the biggest cities in the country - if you're unfamiliar with the place, or unused to driving on the left, it'll be much easier by public transport, I'd have thought. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Jun 27 16:23:49 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:23:49 -0400 Subject: BOC: a Remaster speculation Message-ID: > I noticed that the catalog no's. listed in the booklet of the remasters > match up with the remasters. > Since Imaginos isn't on the list, I take it we won't see a Blue Oyster Cult > Collection version of the disc. Club Ninja isn't in the roster either. > Workshop, Career of Evil: the Metal Years, Super hits,and DFtR: the Best > of... are all noted. Not so sure about Imaginos - I think it wasn't listed because it currently is out of print - same with Club Ninja (although it was re-released by Koch). So, don't panic yet! John From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Jun 27 16:24:39 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:24:39 -0400 Subject: CotHM (long) Message-ID: > > by the way, I love the new album. One solid hour of good rockin' fun. > > > > EXACTLY! Frankly I was getting a bit tired of the complaints here about > COTHM. Too much living in the past for my tastes. > > -=snip=- > > BOC has its roots in my past. How can I do otherwise? Should we blindly > accept without reservations or criticism? I know I'm negative but its not as > easy as you think for me to rip into a band that has been with me for 30 > years. Its a dirty job but someone has to do it... I'm just saying it how I > see it. I can't help the way I feel about it. Mom always said, if you can't > say anything nice, don't say anything at all. But I don't think thats > appropriate here. Do you? Well, most people know I tend to focus on the positive. I've been accused in the past of being a "boot-licker" (albeit an "equal opportunity boot-licker"), and that may be true. Perhaps I tend to err on the side of "if you can't say anything nice..." But my point is really in that I think the negativity expressed is against some mythical standard of what BOC "ought" to be - which is why the term "Secret Treaties II" gets used. People seem to have a hard time taking the current band at face value, and enjoying it for what it is - rather than holding it up against it's greatest work and being disappointed when it doesn't measure up. > ... but all artists will forever be held up to > the yardstick of their greatest work. Its inevetable.. All bands have their > swan song and spend the rest of their careers trying to live up to that > moment. Some come close, some fail miserably, few surpass. I try and take the album for what it is - and don't pretend to assume that COTHM is BOC attempting to recreate Secret Treaties. Let it stand (or fall) on its own. > > -=snip=- > But unless you've been living under a rock for 10 > years, you'd probably realize that this album represents who BOC is > TODAY very accurately. > -=snip=- > > Sadly, you are correct, sir. > IMHO, not sad at all. Further, since I feel like I've known what this band is over the past 10 years, I'm not let down by this offering. If we all thought that Heaven Forbid WAS "Secret Treaties II", then maybe COTHM would be a letdown - but, as I said, "unless you've been living under a rock for 10 years..." I mean, after Revolution By Night, Club Ninja, and Heaven Forbid (deliberately skipping Imaginos since was only put out because Albert did so much work on it), COTHM isn't exactly a major deviation into left field for this band. John From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Jun 27 16:31:12 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:31:12 +0100 Subject: BOC: CotHM (long) In-Reply-To: <3B3A4109.76CDD2EA@mitre.org> Message-ID: > Perhaps I tend to err > on the side of "if you can't say anything nice..." I gotta say, this is why I've been fairly quiet on the topic! :) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Jun 27 16:59:58 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:59:58 EDT Subject: HW: getting your nob out onstage Message-ID: In a message dated 6/27/2001 1:17:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: << Does GP-O still have a nob these days? I thought he decided to give another gender a try. >> At the very start of the OGHR show (last week)GP-O came out to implore the audience to get guns and put a bullet in George Bush's head! 'He' was outfitted like Austin Powers with the same type of hairdo. Last time I saw him 'he' was Genny. Very entertaining. The Limelight closed the following day, never to be opened again. sigh regards, Bill ' I still got my nob' Stewart From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jun 27 17:14:14 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 06:44:14 +0930 Subject: HW: getting your nob out onstage Message-ID: thats a filthy habit and you should be ashamed!!! broooooouggggghhhhhhhp ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 3:04 AM Subject: Re: HW: getting your nob out onstage > On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:02:07 -0400, K Henderson > wrote: > > > > >Does GP-O still have a nob these days? I thought he decided to give > another > >gender a try. > > Well he definitely had one in the late 80s- it was adorned with a > remarkable amount of metalwork and used to regularly appear in piercing > magazines etc. > > However I did read that he and his current companion "Mistress Jackie" had > embarked on a programme of surgery to become identical androgynous > creatures, so I don't know his current packet-status. (This struck me as a > little self-indulgent, even by Gen's high standards). > > > > >Grakkl (FAA), who was priviledged enough to witness Daevid Allen's nob, > >though the one person who was so overcome by emotion to go up onstage after > >the song to give him a (nope, not that! Just a) hug was a guy! Lucky him. > > Yeah I read on the Gong newsgroup that the Alien banana had been exposed a > number of times on the recent U of E tour. Some people were actually rather > upset by this, which I found extraordinary, but there you go. > > (BTW troos= trousers, or "trahsers" if you come from London, "pants" if you > come from the US). From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Jun 27 19:13:54 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Timothy E Elliott) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:13:54 -0400 Subject: OFF:e-bay Message-ID: just a question. is anybody else having trouble accessing e-bay lately?? for about the last week,everytime i try to access,about 55-85%downloaded and everything locks up and i have to reboot. whats up with that? heathcliff From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 19:59:52 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:59:52 +0100 Subject: OFF:e-bay Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy E Elliott To: Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:13 AM Subject: OFF:e-bay > just a question. is anybody else having trouble accessing e-bay lately?? for about > the last week,everytime i try to access,about 55-85%downloaded and everything > locks up and i have to reboot. whats up with that? > heathcliff Same here I've been having a similar kind of problem but in my case I just get the header, some code and then a blank screen. I can't decide whether it just doesn't like my password (although I can't raise that page that will allow me to change it either) or whether there's something wrong in the loading of the pages. Maybe I should just re-register and start again. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Thu Jun 28 05:45:59 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:45:59 +0100 Subject: OFF:e-bay In-Reply-To: <018f01c0ff65$443b7160$3e1d883e@jds> Message-ID: e-bay was working fine for me all day Wednesday & Thursday. Alasdair On 28 Jun 01, at 0:59, Jill Strobridge wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Timothy E Elliott > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:13 AM > Subject: OFF:e-bay > > > > just a question. is anybody else having trouble accessing e-bay > lately?? for about > > the last week,everytime i try to access,about 55-85%downloaded and > everything > > locks up and i have to reboot. whats up with that? > > heathcliff > > > Same here I've been having a similar kind of problem but in my case > I just get the header, some code and then a blank screen. I can't > decide whether it just doesn't like my password (although I can't > raise that page that will allow me to change it either) or whether > there's something wrong in the loading of the pages. Maybe I should > just re-register and start again. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 28 06:32:56 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:32:56 +0100 Subject: HW: november tour dates In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:02:47 -0500 Message-ID: Arin Komins writes: > Hiya folks, > > In the first irc chat, it was mentioned that HW would be attempting to do > a 10 date minitour in November. > > Out of curiosity, does anyone know what dates HW is playing in november > and when? (14th at newcastle, 8th in birmingham, something in late > october, but are any other dates (other than newcastle) confirmed? > > I'm attempting to plan vacation ;-) > > Also -- is Newcastle gettable by public transportation easily, or would it > be better to rent a car or somesuch? > > (...and if it's better to rent a car, anyone want to go in for renting a > van or something? haul around the country with a bunch of fans?) I could organise a minibus from Edinburgh to Newcastle and back on the night. Making the cost reasonable pretty much depends on filling it though. FoFP From snurmela at UTU.FI Thu Jun 28 06:54:17 2001 From: snurmela at UTU.FI (Sami Nurmela) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:54:17 +0300 Subject: HW: Weird 6 CD available Message-ID: Hi all Kollektors, a local music store has a copy of Hawkwind Weird 6 CD available. If anyone on this list would like to get it, I can go and buy it, and trade it for any HW CD I don't have (Love In Space, Friday Rock Show, White Zone, or maybe even Weird 1 or Distant Horizons although these two are available locally). Possible replies off-list as I am not signed on BOC-L during holidays. Bye, /sami - sami.nurmela at utu.fi (Finland) From starfield at SUPANET.COM Thu Jun 28 07:09:41 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:09:41 +0100 Subject: Off: Fink Ployd Message-ID: Thanks Denis, some nice stuff there. Regards Keith K. ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Regenbrecht To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:05 PM Subject: Re: Off: Fink Ployd > Hi Captain, > > >Does anybody on here know of a website that has some good 1970's Pink > >Floyd concert photos on it? > > One of the best Floyd-sites I know ist . You > can find a lot of pictures in the "band"-section of the site. > > (c)IAO > > D+R > > np: Inner City Unit, "Passout" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jun 28 07:24:51 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:54:51 +0930 Subject: Off: Fink Ployd Message-ID: Hiya Captain!! I hope I see you in November - I'll buy you a beer? Cheers Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Off: Fink Ployd > Thanks Denis, some nice stuff there. > > Regards > > Keith K. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denis Regenbrecht > To: > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:05 PM > Subject: Re: Off: Fink Ployd > > > > Hi Captain, > > > > >Does anybody on here know of a website that has some good 1970's Pink > > >Floyd concert photos on it? > > > > One of the best Floyd-sites I know ist . You > > can find a lot of pictures in the "band"-section of the site. > > > > (c)IAO > > > > D+R > > > > np: Inner City Unit, "Passout" > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jun 28 07:38:33 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:38:33 EDT Subject: BOC : Re: CotHM In-Reply-To: <3B3A4109.76CDD2EA@mitre.org> Message-ID: On 27 Jun 2001, at 16:24, John A. Swartz wrote: But my point > is really in that I think the negativity expressed is against some > mythical standard of what BOC "ought" to be - which is why the term > "Secret Treaties II" gets used. People seem to have a hard time > taking the current band at face value, and enjoying it for what it is > - rather than holding it up against it's greatest work and being > disappointed when it doesn't measure up. > Which is unfair to the band, esp. its new members. Anyone besides me impressed by the work that DM and BR have contributed to CotHM? Those 2 guys are monster players... theo From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Thu Jun 28 11:36:56 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:36:56 -0400 Subject: last minute gig reminders: Message-ID: Tonight!! June 28th..Acoustic Sloterdijk will appera at 'Marymakers' in Riverside New Jersey. Lineup will include: Mike Burro: acoustic guitar and vocals Jay Adcock: Djembe, brushed snare Robert McConnell: bass guitar Sunday, July 1: 'The Pontiac", Philadelphia, PA Sloterdijk will perform a full electric set that evening including material from the new 'Uranium Zone' CD lineup will include: Mike Burro, guitars, synth, programming & vocals Jay Adcock: guitars, synth Robert McConnell: bass guitar For complete info regarding these and all other schduled shows, please visit the calendar section of our website at: www.mp3.com/sloterdijk Hope to catch some of you there, Mike Burro, (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 28 13:28:32 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:28:32 +0100 Subject: Yet another Master of the Universe CD Message-ID: The CD Best of Hawkwind (1994) has been rereleased under this title on the Castle/Pulse label. I think that's now 6 different albums called "Master of the Universe". FoFP From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Jun 28 13:52:11 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:52:11 -0400 Subject: BOC: extra remaster fun Message-ID: I nominate Mommy for having the most violent lyrics possible. nevertheless, Eric did a good job with the song I think. It would be a killer on stage I think... Eric in full "evil leer!" He hasnt been that evil lately. Would be a nice change. After all the song sounds like it was done "live" for the most part doesnt it? The current BOC could put Mes Dams Serat in the set, after all there arent that many Alan songs they do.Its definately the most rocking of them (tied with Gil Blanco maybe, but still. it really rocks.) The liner notes remind me of A.Levy's liner notes to Career of Evil: the Metal Years style. What does anyone else think of 'em so far? From dahl at AROS.NET Thu Jun 28 14:07:50 2001 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:07:50 -0600 Subject: BOC : Re: CotHM and tRBN Message-ID: >>>Anyone besides me impressed by the work that DM and BR have contributed to CotHM? Those 2 guys are monster players... Being a bass player and part-time drummer, I find there playing quite good. Very appropriate for the songs with just enough flash to keep it interesting. Maybe I'm just growing tolerant in my old age, but I find little to complain about with the new album. Great songs, great performances. If you don't like it, that's cool. I'm just glad that I love it! Now, thanks to Theo, I listened to tRBN yesterday. My conclusion is that the songs are actually pretty good. It's the production that makes it, how would you say, lame? This album was produced and mixed for the shopping mall. The guitars (esp lead) and drums are so far down in the mix. When the drums do stand out, it's when the electronic drums are used. I realize that this was the rave of the early 80's and actually like a lot of the sounds going on then, but I don't think it works for these songs. These songs cry for guitars, bass and drums. Let Go is cheesy, but it's probably the most "real" sounding song on the disc. It actually sounds like people were there when it was recorded. Just my opinion, Brad From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Jun 28 14:12:23 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:12:23 -0400 Subject: BOC : Re: CotHM and tRBN Message-ID: tRBN.. I love that album. The Mix was PERFECT for the times. Does it sound dated now? YEA But is it bad? NO Compared to my two personal least faves which are.. MIRRORS and CLUB NINJA retch.... Just my humble opinion..... Mike in Troy NY -- ___________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1/ corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill Brad Dahl wrote: > > >>>Anyone besides me impressed by the work that DM and BR have > contributed to CotHM? Those 2 guys are monster players... > > Being a bass player and part-time drummer, I find there playing quite good. > Very appropriate for the songs with just enough flash to keep it > interesting. > > Maybe I'm just growing tolerant in my old age, but I find little to complain > about with the new album. Great songs, great performances. If you don't > like it, that's cool. I'm just glad that I love it! > > Now, thanks to Theo, I listened to tRBN yesterday. My conclusion is that > the songs are actually pretty good. It's the production that makes it, how > would you say, lame? > > This album was produced and mixed for the shopping mall. The guitars (esp > lead) and drums are so far down in the mix. When the drums do stand out, > it's when the electronic drums are used. I realize that this was the rave > of the early 80's and actually like a lot of the sounds going on then, but I > don't think it works for these songs. These songs cry for guitars, bass and > drums. Let Go is cheesy, but it's probably the most "real" sounding song on > the disc. It actually sounds like people were there when it was recorded. > > Just my opinion, > > Brad From nick at NETPHD.NET Thu Jun 28 17:30:29 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:30:29 -0400 Subject: BOC : Re: CotHM In-Reply-To: <3B3ADEF8.2812.1A2603@localhost> Message-ID: > Which is unfair to the band, esp. its new members. Anyone > besides me impressed by the work that DM and BR have > contributed to CotHM? Those 2 guys are monster players... > > > theo I agree totally. I was intrigued when I saw how many songs they'd contributed to. . . and was impressed by their playing on the disc. Especially Bobby, whose drumming is leaps and bounds ahead of anything he did on Heaven Forbid. I don't know how many albums Blue Oyster Cult has left in it, but with Buck playing better than ever, Eric getting his voice back with a vengeance and Bobby and Danny showing that they're more than glorified studio musicians, I only expect things to improve. --Nick From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Thu Jun 28 18:24:38 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:24:38 -0400 Subject: HW: Kris's Book Message-ID: On Sat, 19 May 2001 16:00:16 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >Mr. Sumner said... > >>In the back of the book it says that 'volume II will follow soon'. Was >>there ever a follow up? I remember seeing one with a black cover instead of >>red but was that just volume I with a different colour cover? >> >>I have a copy autographed by various past and present members of the band, >>from Mick Slattery to Alan Davey and...oh! Who's is that autograph? Looks >>like my little brother's handwriting...didn't know he was in Hawkwind. > >Is it Gordon? That might be worth something! :) > >Grakkl (FAA) A bit slow I know but I just got the joke :) Alastair. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Jun 28 18:39:48 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:39:48 -0400 Subject: HW: Kris's Book In-Reply-To: <200106282224.SAA11279@listserv.spc.edu>; from als@POSTMASTER.CO.UK on Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 06:24:38PM -0400 Message-ID: On Sat, 19 May 2001 16:00:16 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >Mr. Sumner said... >>Looks like my little brother's handwriting...didn't know he was in >>Hawkwind. > >Is it Gordon? That might be worth something! :) Anagram of "Gordon (Sting) Sumner" is "grunted minor songs" :-) Amazing the random stuff a Google search'll turn up... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From hw at CY-B.ORG Thu Jun 28 19:12:31 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:12:31 -0400 Subject: HW: Tour Dates Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS Please visit Mission Control for some important new Tour Date Announcements www.hawkwind.org.uk (Tour/Updates pages) WE WILL NOW **NOT** BE DOING THE SUN IN THE EAST - NORWICH IN AUGUST ! ++MESSAGE ENDS From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Fri Jun 29 04:37:14 2001 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 04:37:14 EDT Subject: HW: Royal Festival Hall. Message-ID: Just contacted theRoyal festival hall. No tickets available yet :-( hopefully soon.... regards Iain From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Fri Jun 29 06:30:45 2001 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:30:45 +0100 Subject: We were born to go... Message-ID: Due to the logistics of not having regular access to a PC for the next few months - I am going off the list. I know lurkers are rarely missed but I thought I'd big my farewells anyway. To folks I have met through the year, adios for now. It's been one tremendous year for Hawkwind gigs... fraid I missed a lot of Donnington as by the time they came on stage I was a bit wobbly, never mind I have vague, warm and fuzzy recollections of the gig. Maybe catch up with tricks in 2002. All the best & many thanks to Hawkwind for providing some of the best entertainment to be had legally.! ttfn M at xine From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Jun 29 07:42:00 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:42:00 -0400 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: Ticket arrived complete with cheap beer tokens. Mike - bus idea still on - co-ordination required - still happy to do my bit. Z From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Fri Jun 29 09:00:04 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:00:04 -0400 Subject: BOC: a question about the ST remaster Message-ID: Is it me, or did they misspell one of the words in the "Rossignol" blurb on the remaster? I no longer have my old copy of ST on disc to check it out. A word on "FoUO" bonus version: A really nice haunting feel to the song. The question though I have is if it's the Demo from Albert, do the listed writing credits reflect the modifications that were made for its appearance on FoUO (the album) or was it really that collaborative in its composition? I really dig the Ping-Pong ball-like organ bit in Sally. Its much more groovy (as in having a groove, not "groovy, man! I can see finger trails!") than tBS's take, which has a punkier bounce.. Fun song either way. Who is doing the spoken vocal lines at the end of the song? and what is being said? Jason From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri Jun 29 09:21:15 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:21:15 -0400 Subject: BOC - various Message-ID: I've finished listening to the first round of BOC remasters and they are KILLER! Excellent sound and packaging and the bonus tracks are great. A few comments on them: Donovan's Monkey, What is Quicksand, A Fact About Sneakers - these were all actually recorded BEFORE the "St. Cecilia" recordings, when the band tried to get a deal with Columbia which was rejected at the time. Not as strong as the versions recorded for "St. Cecilia" - but still good (the "St. Cecilia" CD probably spoils the "surprise value" of these tracks) Betty Lou's Got a New Pair of Shoes - smokin' cover - BOC could cook even back in 1969. Cities on Flame (live) - from the "Bootleg EP" Buck's Boogie (studio) - nice, although not as polished as the live version from OYFOOYK - good keys though - Allen doesn't seem to shine as much these days on this tune - I think they should give him a bit more soloing time in this one like they did in the old days... Dizbusters, O.D'd (live) - from the "Live in the West" bootleg tape - you can hear the sound quality drop off noticeably when you get to these tracks, but it's still great to hear these, esp. Eric's rap about the "dude in the sharkskin suit" on Dizbusters Boorman the Chauffer - Smokin' Joe Bouchard track that really should have been on the album. Mommy - nasty lyrics - and we thought BOC were just Nazi's... ;-) Mes Dames Sarat - need to listen to this a bit more... Born to be Wild - if you got the Workshop of the Telescopes compilation, you know how this one goes - BOC's "Heard it through the grapevine" version... Career of Evil - Single version with tamed lyrics. "Do it like ya oughta..." Fire of Unknown Origin - Very different music - more simplistic than what ultimately came out, but interesting to hear. Sally - Neat, although tBS version on *Eponymous* blows this away - but you can hear the beginnings of a really great song. Reaper (demo) - good stuff - some have heard this before - it's on the Buck Dharma Archive CDs - The "drums" are actually Buck pounding on a book as well as saying "Pssssshh" for a cymbal - amazing how well it sounds! Dance the Night Away - Jim Carroll eventually released a version of this. I need to listen to this a bit more... And now for a few comments to your postings... > Anyone > besides me impressed by the work that DM and BR have > contributed to CotHM? Those 2 guys are monster players... Indeed they are. Whether you want to argue that they don't have the same finesse as the Bouchards or not, they are definitely great players. They give the band a harder sound than what they had in the 1980's - less subtle in times, but it definitely works well for them live. > The liner notes remind me of A.Levy's liner notes to Career of Evil: the > Metal Years style. What does anyone else think of 'em so far? A little bit, although I'm liking them better. Some of the writings though make you wonder if BOC put as much thought into the meaning of their stuff as some of us did. Listen to this from the Tyranny notes: "There was something Copernican in the Cult's worldview, themselves included. Where some bands attempted to rabble-rouse, BOC's concerns were more scientific, each song an abstract tale rather than a personal, emotionally wrenching narrative. If this detachment sometimes made the band seem like characters in their own play, it allwed them to ride their "Hot Rails to Hell" along the edge of the malebolge and escape unscathed, singed but hardly consumed by the flames they'd unleashed over the City." > Maybe I'm just growing tolerant in my old age, but I find little to complain > about with the new album. Great songs, great performances. If you don't > like it, that's cool. I'm just glad that I love it! Well said. Perhaps I too am less demanding as I age (or, increase in "old fartidude"...) > I agree totally. I was intrigued when I saw how many > songs they'd contributed to. . . and was impressed by > their playing on the disc. Especially Bobby, whose > drumming is leaps and bounds ahead of anything he did > on Heaven Forbid. FYI, Bobby played on only one track on HF (Live for Me) - all other drums were Chuck Burgi. John From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Jun 29 10:18:18 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:18:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin mp3 Message-ID: There's an mp3 from the forthcoming album to download at www.bedouinfo.com - "Vision Quest" - check it out and ask yourself, does this kick large amounts of arse or what!! -- Andy www.andygilham.com From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Jun 29 10:26:14 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:26:14 -0400 Subject: HW Biker review Message-ID: Last but not least Hawkwind - not a band but an experience best loved at full tilt, in a dark field, with lights, lazers, mystic firebreathing women, dancers, strobe lights, backing tracks, ENORMOUS amounts of smoke all creating this ambient atmosphere, whether you were under the influence or not you soon felt it! Dumpy played a guest spot without his Rusty Nuts, guitar happily resting on his ever increasing gut looking like Father Xmas on acid with his rapidly greying beard (Dumpy we still love you, you're an institution now!). It was lovely seeing all the families watching Hawkwind when the parents must have been kids themselves when they first experienced the band, and no they didn't play Silver Machine - resting on your laurels eh! Big disappointment also was the inability to get the late stage license and the bands were off at 11.10pm so it was a rapid exit to our Cyber Cafe or the dance tent (or dance exhibition centre, not quite a tent) if you could find it as folk were off looking for a marquee Z From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Fri Jun 29 10:45:47 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:45:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin mp3 Message-ID: Andy Gilham wrote: > There's an mp3 from the forthcoming album to download at www.bedouinfo.com - > "Vision Quest" - check it out and ask yourself, does this kick large amounts > of arse or what!! > Yeah! This kicks *large* amount of arse then buries it in the sand! I believe this track's been knocking around for about 5 years in one form of another cos it's mentioned here in Alan's web based interview from 96/7: http://www.hawkwind.com/i_view2.htm And for those of you in black and white: Name: Keith Barton Location: Huddersfield, UK Question: What happened to "Hearts And Stars", "Head Craft", "Tune Your Head" and "Vision Quest"? Were these reworked with Ron then retitled,or are you just keeping them from us? ;-) AD: All the titles you mentioned were re-worked as you assumed, except "Visionquest" which I'm still having! It'll appear on the next Hawkwind LP I think. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 29 11:11:07 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (FALSE TEETH) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:41:07 +0930 Subject: HW: Bedouin mp3 Message-ID: Just finished the download - gonna give it a whirl!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 12:15 AM Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin mp3 > Andy Gilham wrote: > > > There's an mp3 from the forthcoming album to download at www.bedouinfo.com - > > "Vision Quest" - check it out and ask yourself, does this kick large amounts > > of arse or what!! > > > > Yeah! This kicks *large* amount of arse then buries it in the sand! > I believe this track's been knocking around for about 5 years in one form of > another cos it's mentioned here in Alan's web based interview from 96/7: > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 29 12:05:35 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (SGT STEDANKO) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 01:35:35 +0930 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: does that mean there will be hot haggis served during the trip? heh has there ever been a vegetarian version of a hagis? hmmmmm talking about trip.....ssssss nahhh just kidding.... Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Z E Itgeist To: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: HW - Newcastle > Ticket arrived complete with cheap beer tokens. > > Mike - bus idea still on - co-ordination required - still happy to do my > bit. > > Z > > From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 29 12:16:19 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:16:19 -0500 Subject: stonehenge 84 Message-ID: Does anyone know if ROY HARPER introduced HAWKWIND at STONEHENGE 84? THANKS STEPHE From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jun 29 12:35:19 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:35:19 +0100 Subject: HW - Newcastle In-Reply-To: SGT STEDANKO's message of Sat, 30 Jun 2001 01:35:35 +0930 Message-ID: SGT STEDANKO writes: > does that mean there will be hot haggis served during the trip? They're out of season until the 12th. It's the breeding season you see. > heh > has there ever been a vegetarian version of a hagis? hmmmmm It's easy enough to get vegetarian haggis around here. Obviously that's all year because they don't need to shoot any haggii. FoFP From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 29 12:33:05 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:33:05 -0500 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: Does it taste like chicken? or what? I never tried it. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 11:35 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle SGT STEDANKO writes: > does that mean there will be hot haggis served during the trip? They're out of season until the 12th. It's the breeding season you see. > heh > has there ever been a vegetarian version of a hagis? hmmmmm It's easy enough to get vegetarian haggis around here. Obviously that's all year because they don't need to shoot any haggii. FoFP From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jun 29 12:45:43 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:45:43 -0400 Subject: stonehenge 84 Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:16:19 -0500, Stephen Lindas wrote: >Does anyone know if ROY HARPER introduced HAWKWIND at STONEHENGE 84? THANKS >STEPHE I asked this here recently, response came there none, but I'm pretty sure that's him introducing them before "Watching the Grass Grow" on Do Not Panic. Presumably some people here were there, although memories of such events can be a little hazy... From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 29 12:47:03 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:47:03 -0500 Subject: stonehenge 84 Message-ID: Do you know what day that was? Thats what I was told but On my tape of it it sounds like NIK. I will listen to DO NOT PANIC to compare. THANK YOU STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Nick Medford [mailto:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 11:46 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: stonehenge 84 On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:16:19 -0500, Stephen Lindas wrote: >Does anyone know if ROY HARPER introduced HAWKWIND at STONEHENGE 84? THANKS >STEPHE I asked this here recently, response came there none, but I'm pretty sure that's him introducing them before "Watching the Grass Grow" on Do Not Panic. Presumably some people here were there, although memories of such events can be a little hazy... From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Fri Jun 29 13:00:06 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 18:00:06 +0100 Subject: stonehenge 84 Message-ID: Nick Medford wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:16:19 -0500, Stephen Lindas > wrote: > > >Does anyone know if ROY HARPER introduced HAWKWIND at STONEHENGE 84? THANKS > >STEPHE > > I asked this here recently, response came there none, but I'm pretty sure > that's him introducing them before "Watching the Grass Grow" on Do Not > Panic. > > Presumably some people here were there, although memories of such events > can be a little hazy... That was my very first festival and very first Hawkwind gig. I was 14 and went with my older brother who was supposed to be the responsible one while our folks were on holiday! I remember The Cardiacs and The Enid played aswell as Roy Harper. Not being very tall and being a little nervous of some of the folk there meant that I was near the back with a crap view! Keef From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jun 29 13:00:58 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:00:58 -0400 Subject: stonehenge 84 Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:47:03 -0500, Stephen Lindas wrote: >Do you know what day that was? Don't know, sorry Thats what I was told but On my tape of it it >sounds like NIK. Someone (Roy Harper, if I'm right, but it DEFINITELY isn't Nik) says "I'd like to present to you the night, and the... and the future." Someone shouts "Hawks!" Roy (?) continues "and maybe... the Hawks!" At which point Nik comes in with "We are the survivors! The eternal survivors..." etc. by way of intro to Watching the Grass Grow. Oh and the vinyl has the words "Watching the Grass Smoke" etched on the run- off groove. Hope this helps NM From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jun 29 13:10:06 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:10:06 -0400 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:35:19 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >SGT STEDANKO writes: > >> does that mean there will be hot haggis served during the trip? > >They're out of season until the 12th. It's the breeding season you see. > >> heh >> has there ever been a vegetarian version of a hagis? hmmmmm > >It's easy enough to get vegetarian haggis around here. Obviously that's >all year because they don't need to shoot any haggii. > >FoFP Mike what's your favourite part of the haggis? Are you a leg man, a breast man, or what? From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jun 29 13:10:01 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:10:01 EDT Subject: HW - Newcastle In-Reply-To: <024c01c100b5$55951a00$6fcb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On 30 Jun 2001, at 1:35, SGT STEDANKO wrote: Damn! I'm wracking my brain over this. Who was Sgt. Stedanko? I know I've heard it before... theo From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 29 13:10:51 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:10:51 -0500 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: Thats the cop in CHEECH AND CHONG skits. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Ted Jackson [mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:10 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle On 30 Jun 2001, at 1:35, SGT STEDANKO wrote: Damn! I'm wracking my brain over this. Who was Sgt. Stedanko? I know I've heard it before... theo From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Fri Jun 29 13:19:12 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:19:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: acoustic Sloterdijk; setlist 6/28 Message-ID: (Don't Fear) The Reaper Hurry On Sundown Uranium Zone: (dedicated to the people of Vieques, and to those who were exposed to depleted ranium during the NATO Balkan campaign) L.A. Lady: ( first time played live; written by Punky Meadows) Hassan I Sabha (Assassins of Allah) Golden Void lineup: Mike Burro: acoustic guitar and vocals Jay Adcock: djembe and bass guitar Robert McConnell: bass guitar and djembe This was a really enjoyable gig..The venue was nice and spacious with excellent air circulation. There were lots of great players there including Philadelphia Jazz legend Bootsie Barnes, who advised me to "keep the group together", and added "it's hard to find loyal players today".. The crowd was diverse and tolerant..In addition to performing ith Sloterdijk Jay, sat in with the house jam on drumkit and djembe. Bob also backed up several players with bass. I myself even joined the fray for a full tilt boogie/blues jam. There were about 4 or 5 others on stage when I grabbed the djembe, slung it over my soulder and headed for the closest available microphone.. truly relaxing, Peace, MIke www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Jun 29 13:19:36 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:19:36 -0500 Subject: stonehenge 84 Message-ID: This is so weird!! My tape doesn't match what your saying here. Watching the grass grow is the 4th track. Someone saying something like hows everyone doing tonight, then NIK says this is an old INNER CITY UNIT number. Maybe ROY's intro was a different gig. I know my tapes labeled correctly, and WTGG was only played the 1st night. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Nick Medford [mailto:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: stonehenge 84 On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:47:03 -0500, Stephen Lindas wrote: >Do you know what day that was? Don't know, sorry Thats what I was told but On my tape of it it >sounds like NIK. Someone (Roy Harper, if I'm right, but it DEFINITELY isn't Nik) says "I'd like to present to you the night, and the... and the future." Someone shouts "Hawks!" Roy (?) continues "and maybe... the Hawks!" At which point Nik comes in with "We are the survivors! The eternal survivors..." etc. by way of intro to Watching the Grass Grow. Oh and the vinyl has the words "Watching the Grass Smoke" etched on the run- off groove. Hope this helps NM From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jun 29 13:39:55 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:39:55 EDT Subject: HW - Newcastle In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A2BE@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: On 29 Jun 2001, at 12:10, Stephen Lindas wrote: > Thats the cop in CHEECH AND CHONG skits. STEPHE > Thank You!! theo From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jun 29 14:33:21 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:33:21 +0100 Subject: stonehenge 84 In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A2BF@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: In message <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A2BF at herm es.marketday.com>, Stephen Lindas writes >This is so weird!! My tape doesn't match what your saying here. Hmm. I dunno... maybe it's a different gig, except I'm pretty damn sure it IS Harper doing the intro, so chances are it'd have to be a festival, even if it wasn't Stonehenge... Or maybe the intro is from another night at Stonehenge and was spliced together with the song for the album... Can't think of any other suggestions right now. Surely somebody here must know? -- Nick Medford From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jun 29 14:40:45 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:40:45 -0400 Subject: HW: november tour dates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Andy Gilham wrote: => > Also -- is Newcastle gettable by public transportation easily, or would it => > be better to rent a car or somesuch? => => Newcastle (upon Tyne) is one of the biggest cities in the country - if => you're unfamiliar with the place, or unused to driving on the left, it'll be => much easier by public transport, I'd have thought. Newcastle also has an excellent local public transportation system---the Tyneside Metro---which integrates with the local bus system. Newcastle has a major rail station, and also has an airport with (if memory serves) a station on the aforementioned Metro system. It is entirely feasible to fly into Newcastle via, say, London Heathrow or Gatwick. (I have flown Roanoke, VA -> ... -> Newcastle, UK, checking my luggage only at Roanoke!) Teesside Airport, near Middlesbrough, is another close regional airport, if you want more options. It has a railway station (or more accurately, a halt:), and you could fairly painlessly take the train up to Newcastle from there. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From dave.bunn at NTLWORLD.COM Fri Jun 29 21:31:24 2001 From: dave.bunn at NTLWORLD.COM (Babylon Hythe) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 02:31:24 +0100 Subject: stonehenge 84 In-Reply-To: <200106291645.MAA15154@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >Presumably some people here were there, although memories of such events >can be a little hazy... I was there and I doubt I was able to remember my own name at the time, so I cant help, sorry. (I had a REALLY great time though) Dave (another reality gypsy) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 29 21:48:10 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:18:10 +0930 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: Cooool!!! Put me down for two serves of NON Hairy vegetarian Haggiis and a big mug of ale!~ Save the Haggii!! - Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 2:05 AM Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle > SGT STEDANKO writes: > > > does that mean there will be hot haggis served during the trip? > > They're out of season until the 12th. It's the breeding season you see. > > > heh > > has there ever been a vegetarian version of a hagis? hmmmmm > > It's easy enough to get vegetarian haggis around here. Obviously that's > all year because they don't need to shoot any haggii. > > FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 29 21:49:49 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:19:49 +0930 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: Nahhh it tastes like shit - but you get used to it mauauahah ha haha Mb'' (Im going to see the hawks at Newcastle etc so this off mail is warranted - so there) ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 2:03 AM Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle > Does it taste like chicken? or what? I never tried it. STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 11:35 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle > > > SGT STEDANKO writes: > > > does that mean there will be hot haggis served during the trip? > > They're out of season until the 12th. It's the breeding season you see. > > > heh > > has there ever been a vegetarian version of a hagis? hmmmmm > > It's easy enough to get vegetarian haggis around here. Obviously that's > all year because they don't need to shoot any haggii. > > FoFP > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 29 21:59:03 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:29:03 +0930 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: Hagii have tits? I thought they were all gutt? with little spidly legs? and beady eyes? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 2:40 AM Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle > On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:35:19 +0100, M Holmes wrote: > > >SGT STEDANKO writes: > > > >> does that mean there will be hot haggis served during the trip? > > > >They're out of season until the 12th. It's the breeding season you see. > > > >> heh > >> has there ever been a vegetarian version of a hagis? hmmmmm > > > >It's easy enough to get vegetarian haggis around here. Obviously that's > >all year because they don't need to shoot any haggii. > > > >FoFP > > Mike what's your favourite part of the haggis? Are you a leg man, a breast > man, or what? > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jun 29 22:02:42 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:32:42 +0930 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: Yeah - the one that cheech accidently pees on at the US-mexican border bathroom and then again at the police station when they meet those chicks and try to score some dope from their cop friend in up in smoke !!! he also turns into a big green lizard in Nice Dreams Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lindas To: Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 2:40 AM Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle > Thats the cop in CHEECH AND CHONG skits. STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Jackson [mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:10 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle > > > On 30 Jun 2001, at 1:35, SGT STEDANKO wrote: > > Damn! I'm wracking my brain over this. Who was Sgt. Stedanko? > I know I've heard it before... > > theo From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Sat Jun 30 07:22:45 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:22:45 +0100 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: I had a veggie Haggis once....... tasted bloody awful!! Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/29/01 05:05pm >>> does that mean there will be hot haggis served during the trip? heh has there ever been a vegetarian version of a hagis? hmmmmm talking about trip.....ssssss nahhh just kidding.... Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Z E Itgeist To: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: HW - Newcastle > Ticket arrived complete with cheap beer tokens. > > Mike - bus idea still on - co-ordination required - still happy to do my > bit. > > Z > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jun 30 08:37:31 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 22:07:31 +0930 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: I can only imagine!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 8:52 PM Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle > I had a veggie Haggis once....... > > tasted bloody awful!! > > > > Layla > > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 06/29/01 05:05pm >>> > does that mean there will be hot haggis served during the trip? heh > has there ever been a vegetarian version of a hagis? hmmmmm > > talking about trip.....ssssss > > nahhh just kidding.... > > Michael B > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Z E Itgeist > To: > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:12 PM > Subject: HW - Newcastle > > > > Ticket arrived complete with cheap beer tokens. > > > > Mike - bus idea still on - co-ordination required - still happy to do my > > bit. > > > > Z > > > > > From achad13 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jun 30 12:13:31 2001 From: achad13 at HOTMAIL.COM (dave evans) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:13:31 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 29 Jun 2001 to 30 Jun 2001 (#2001-266) Message-ID: Hi All > >re: Stonehenge 84 > Does anyone know if ROY HARPER introduced HAWKWIND at STONEHENGE 84? THANKS > STEPHE > yeah; remember it well; Roy Harper played a long solo acoustic set in the late evening as darkness fell, and his last song was "1984" ; just before this Huw had been setting up his amps in the background and wandered on stage with his guitar, and after a few moments of head-down chat and Roy showing Huw the chord shapes, he (Huw) joined in with some pretty cool ad-libbed atmospherics while the rest of the Hawks set up their gear. Roy and Huw finsihed the song and then Roy did his "i present to you the night and the ..." etc etc speech. The Hawks played a pretty manic set and went off for a bit, coming back in the wee small hours to do a mixed-up electronic jam with some songs blended into it to welcome the dawn- this is also on tape and record in various places; the voice of Nik asking everyone to clear the front because something special is going to happen. Nik also played a solo set; flute music stuff, in the middle of the night, either the next night or the one after that. This was Alan Davey's first gig; what a way to start...... I remember this particularly well because I helped Harvey Bainbridge carry some of his gear back to camp after the morning set and spent a few happy hours talking and chilling with the Hawks and Frenchy (of Flicknife Records). Happy Days : ) This is offlist; but related to the question: Plug time; try www.royharper.com it's a good site for any interested folk dave homepage http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/SpiritSt/achad13/index.html Tibet is not China www.tibet.org for every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. -- h. l. mencken From rdc at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Jun 30 13:29:34 2001 From: rdc at NTLWORLD.COM (Richard Crossley) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 18:29:34 +0100 Subject: HW: House - Turner GLR Interview In-Reply-To: <3B3C8526.4410.1669892@localhost> Message-ID: Just found a tape of an interview with Simon House and Nik Turner on GLR radio from, or so it says on the tape sleeve, September 1999. For a short time it can be downloaded from http://explode.mine.nu/hw. The two files are identical, just varying in quality. Please report any problems downloading to mailto:webmaster at explode.mine.nu rather than to the list. Richard. From christmu at EUNET.NO Sat Jun 30 20:32:36 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 02:32:36 +0200 Subject: HW: for Jon Browne Message-ID: Jon, I saw your reply to my post in alt.music.psychedelic. Didn't have time to answer before my server deleted the message though. Anyway, to answer your question, I saw Hawkwind live in Oslo 1991 and New York 1995. Both excellent fucking shows... Chr. --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. "Buddha was a black gentleman who thought all Deadheads were Chinamen." From christmu at EUNET.NO Sat Jun 30 20:24:00 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 02:24:00 +0200 Subject: HW: Brixton set Message-ID: I just got the 3 CDRs from the Brixton Hawkwstra show. The sound isn't so great but there are some worthwile versions of classic songs old and new. Steve Swindells sure does some awful vocals though. Good to hear Huw doing "Rocky Paths" again, and "Hurry On Sundown" would be a welcome oldie in their current punkier sets as well, but too bad one of my favorites, "Arrival In Utopia" dissolved to sheer drivel on the Brixton set. The sound recording quality doesen't help, but then again, judging from the CDRs it wasn't excactly Hawkind's peak as a live band. With such a broad group of old and new (and poorly rehearsed?) musicians coming and going onstage etc. how could it be anything but? Long may the Hawks fly though! Chr. ObCD: Turbonegro tribute - Alpha Motherfuckers --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. "Buddha was a black gentleman who thought all Deadheads were Chinamen."