From Crasher at TESCO.NET Sun Jul 1 04:02:22 2001 From: Crasher at TESCO.NET (Phil Brown) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 09:02:22 +0100 Subject: HW - Newcastle In-Reply-To: <3B3C7E24.3766.14B37B8@localhost> Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:10:01 EDT, Ted Jackson wrote: 'Lardass' from 'Up in Smoke' >On 30 Jun 2001, at 1:35, SGT STEDANKO wrote: > >Damn! I'm wracking my brain over this. Who was Sgt. Stedanko? >I know I've heard it before... > >theo > From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jul 1 05:03:21 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 09:03:21 -0000 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Jul 1 06:10:16 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 19:40:16 +0930 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: im not fat that was me by the way ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Brown To: Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 5:32 PM Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle > On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:10:01 EDT, Ted Jackson wrote: > 'Lardass' from 'Up in Smoke' > > >On 30 Jun 2001, at 1:35, SGT STEDANKO wrote: > > > >Damn! I'm wracking my brain over this. Who was Sgt. Stedanko? > >I know I've heard it before... > > > >theo > > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jul 1 07:54:37 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 12:54:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles/ Pink Fairies In-Reply-To: <00d101c0dfbd$7c3f2560$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: On Fri, 18 May 2001, Rich Warren wrote: > I'm off to see OT in Glagow next Friday yippeee. I haven't seen them since > 93. > > Anyone seen them this year yet, are they on form? Okay, it may have taken me more than a month to find the relevant review and a mail session at the same time, but YES. As by now hopefully you know. For the others though I take the liberty of subjoining a review of their Cambridge gig... "Subject: Ozric Tentacles, Cambridge Junction, 09/05/01 Set-list: Astro Cortex/ Vita Voom/ Pixel Dream/ Pyramidion/ Saucers/ Stretchy/ ?/ Cat DNA/ Xingu Xingu/ Sunscape/ Eternal Wheel/ Sploosh!/ Vibuthi// White Rhino Tea/ Throbbe It was a top gig. It really was. I'd forgotten the reaction the Ozrics live produce in me, they are a happy-making band. I feel wonderfully cheerful within ten seconds of them starting up (although undeniably I needed this gig). They have lots of fun, too, but there were a number of things that were impressive about this gig. Firstly they seemed bloody well drilled. There were long slides between the songs which could have been jammed except that John, flautist and whirling dervish, knew where the pauses were going to be and other such indications that it was rehearsed. Secondly, though John and Zia (bass) were perfectly competent (John even playing actual tunes into the mike), the others were on brilliant form, including the new drummer, who goes by the moniker of Schoo (causing John to observe to the section of the crowd that were shouting for him, "It's no use mate, Schoo's out of his box."), the others being Seaweed (electronics), who was playing some quite unusual noises and who is always so pleased with himself when a routine comes off, and especially Ed (guitar, synths). He was on smashing form, I've never seen him play so well. Thirdly, generally more performance effort. Ed and John both used more than one instrument, usually they don't change in the course of a set. Ed changed guitars twice in the course of one of the songs. Despite this, they were having a laugh. The new single (`Pyramidion') is a massively intense dance-festi crossover piece with a bpm that wouldn't disgrace a slightly out-of-date dancefloor, lots of exciting squelch and not one but several catchy little tunes in it. If I'd recorded it I'd release it as a single too. (It's their second ever... ) and the set definitely improved once they'd successfully played it, which John gave us to understand was a risky venture. Schoo, lastly. He's a lot better than Rad, not necessarily technically, but for the band. Rad was a rock drummer, and has left the band due to unspecified personal problems which I think must be to do with spending seven years in the army and then six in the Ozrics without a break. But Schoo has been a fan forever, apparently, and he clearly remembers the old days when the Ozrics were more, well, tribal. And now he drums that way and they are again, the whole thing being a lot more breathlessly intense despite (or perhaps even because of) being so well-prepared. If you have a chance to see them this tour (there's still some left) do it. They're really good now. Best of the bunch. Really. 20/20." Then, further down the same message:0 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich Warren" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 6:02 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Isle of Wight > > > > I must of heard the wrong Pink Fairies albums ;-) That's unfortunately easy to do: only on of the original three has a CD release (the excellent _Kings of Oblivion_) although there are now a crop of indistinguishable compilations which also have the live material that gives it all context; yes, they were a kick-ass band at writing genuine four-minute rock and roll (and much sillier things too) but until you've heard the Glastonbury Fayre vrsion of `Uncle Harry's Last Freakout' your mental picture of psychedelic freakout music (tm pat pending) is incomplete IMO. But basically the picture is this, with which a few people will no doubt disagree if only because they have the first two albums whereas I've only got bits of them: 1970: Band lineup features Paul Rudolph & Twink, Paul and the other two being freshly ex-Deviants; the first single is `The Snake'/`Do It' and the album it comes from is _Never Never Land_ (isn't it?); these are excellent though Twink's material is a little sub-par in terms of power and impact; or, you can see as shade to the light; the Glastonbury Fayre material and a few other bits are from this and show how the two drummer thing should work... (compilations you can trust (r, pat pending) are _Do It! The Golden years 1969 - 1971_ which has Twink solo stuff on it too and _Mandies and Mescalines round at Uncle Harry's_ which has BBC sessions on as well from the next phase... Later in the year Twink leaves due (according to drummer Russell Hunter) to being unable to make Hunter leave instead and the three-piece produces _What A Bunch of Sweeties_; this is similarly good, maybe better even, and live they sometimes have Trevor Burden from The Move with them which is in some ways a pity as Paul Rudolph doesn't barnstorm as much but certainly gives them even more pace; the BBC sessions on _Mandies_ sows this nicely. 1971 Paul Rudolph quits and the other to grab a guitarist called James Wayne for one single (`Well Well Well') which is excellent if a bit more blues than before, before finding Larry Wallis and drafting him in instead they produce _Kings of Oblivion_,. which shockingly has more drawn-out guitar pieces on it and sounds faintly like early Motorhead :-) but is still great, just not quite as R'n'R. There's also some `lost' tracks from a notional next album that appeared on a mini-LP later on (_Previously Unreleased_, compiled onto CD with the _Live at the Roundhouse_ LP from 1975) which I think are from this period. But the band finally goes foom! in early 1972 and they never appear as recordings from a functional band. They're OK but not great. 1975 Everyone except Wayne is gathered back for a reunion, and this generates the _Live at the Roundhouse_ LP which is under-rehearsed and has two VU/Lou Reed covers on it but still smokes more than a bit; sadly it is not the slightly earlier gig of the same year featuring Lemmy and Nik. The band implodes again soon after however (the Roundhouse gig seems to show that Wallis and Rudolph have trouble letting each other front?). Wallis goes solo and then joins Motorhead (or the other way round?), the rythym section rejoin the Deviants and Rudolph joins Hawkwind and sessions for Eno. 1977 Twink and Rudolph and I believe some others release an EP as Twink and the Fairies, starting a long series of releases whereby Twink attempts to fly himself using the Fairies name. It's got one rework (the title track, `Do It `77', which Twink now claims is is own work) and two originals, is OK and is compiled on the same CD as _Live at the Roundhouse_ and _Previously Unreleased_. 1987 Another reformation featuring Wallis, Sanderson (bass), Twink & Hunter and ex-Deviants Andy Colquhun who was never in the Pink Fairies before. The album produced is called _Kill 'Em and Eat 'em_ and is OK 80s rock with sadly _Xenon Codex_-like production values, but it's not really what one expects from the PF moniker. The band rapidly disintegrates again. 1995 (I'm still not sure about this bit but I've seen the album listed on the web so I use the information I have even if it is from _The Great Rock Discography_) Rudolph and Twink gather a fresh band in Canada and issue an album called _Out of the Blue and Into the Pink_; I have no idea what it sounds like. However: 1996 (back on firm ground here) this time without the rest of the band they issue a follow-up called _Pleasure Island_ which is mostly lousy except for the long title track which is multi-layered and builds up quite well (or so says Jill); 1997 a third album called _No Picture_ which has no redeeming merits at all being flaccid, badly played and containing no worthwhile material and has an `offensive lyrics' sticker on it to garner more sales from the existence of the heavily distorted use of a sampled f-word in one track two or three times. I should say that Andy Garibaldi completely disagrees with me over the quality of this album but I can only assume that whatever they're putting in his water is better than what they're putting in mine; I think it's awful. It must have been at about this point that Larry Wallis sued Twink (and I can see why) and Twink is now only allowed to bill whatever band he's using as Twink's LA Pink Fairies or something. Larry has a solo album in the works which will probably be quite Fairies-like for some values of that term but no idea when it'll be finished. Twink's credits meanwhile include subtle references like `The Fairy' on Bevis & Twink's _Magic Eye_ (excellent album) and _You Need a Fairy Godfather_ with Plasticland (also excellent or so says Doug P. So there you have it. Throughout this mail I've been listening to Scorched Earth's _Fed to Your Head_ and so should you be. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sun Jul 1 08:32:06 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 13:32:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles/ Pink Fairies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: V comprehensive! There was also the single "Between the Lines"/"Spoiling for a Fight" which came out on Stiff, the second ever 7" on the label in fact, which means it must have been '76 or thereabouts: Larry, Russell, Sandy and Martin "Mad Dog" Stone. Sandy then started the fantastic Lightning Raiders, who toured with Motorhead in early '78, and made two essential singles ("Psychedelic Musik"/"Views" and "Criminal World"/"Citizens"). An album kept being rumoured but afaik was never released... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Jul 1 08:41:09 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 13:41:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles/ Pink Fairies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Jon Jarrett writes >1970: Band lineup features Paul Rudolph & Twink, Paul and the other two >being freshly ex-Deviants; the first single is `The Snake'/`Do It' and the >album it comes from is _Never Never Land_ (isn't it?) Well the b-side is- and it's one of the Fairies' finest moments, but "The Snake" isn't on the album. It is however on the Polydor compilation (called, er, "Pink Fairies") which I think has been re-issued on CD. >1971 Paul Rudolph quits and the other to grab a guitarist called James >Wayne for one single (`Well Well Well') This track also appears on the aforementioned comp. >1975 Everyone except Wayne is gathered back for a reunion, and this >generates the _Live at the Roundhouse_ LP then in 1976: you might not have known that they reformed briefly- indeed there were sporadic reformations throughout the late 70s- with Wallis, Sanderson, Hunter plus guitarist Martin 'Mad Dog' Stone, and released a single on Stiff, "Between The Lines"/"Spoiling For A Fight". The a-side is punked-up rockabilly, the b-side is almost a foretaste of the kind of material on "Kill Em and Eat Em" but is very good with it. I've got the original picsleeve 45, the cover is brilliant, if I ever get a scanner I'll happily scan it in for folks who are interested. > >1987 Another reformation featuring Wallis, Sanderson (bass), Twink & >Hunter and ex-Deviants Andy Colquhun who was never in the Pink Fairies >before. The album produced is called _Kill 'Em and Eat 'em_ and is OK 80s >rock with sadly _Xenon Codex_-like production values, but it's not really >what one expects from the PF moniker. I rather like that album, certainly not very psychedelic but Wallis has a real knack as a raunch'n'roll songwriter. The Mick Farren lyrics on a couple of tracks are a bonus too. Certainly I like it better than the "Previously Unreleased" mini-album to which you refer elsewhere. -- Nick Medford From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Sun Jul 1 11:43:16 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 11:43:16 -0400 Subject: HW: MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD Message-ID: ************************************* MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD / STRANGE TRIPS NEWS We are pleased to announce that Mr Quimby's Beard in partnership with Strange Trips http://www.Strange-Trips.com will be doing a US Tour this fall (late October / early November) with Hawkwind's Harvey Bainbridge and the amazing Solar Fire Lightshow. A 2 Day Indoor Fest will take place at The Beachland Ballroom http://www.Beachlandballroom.com/ in Cleveland, Ohio late October or early November. This event will replace the annual Strange Daze Festival which was previously held as an outdoor camping event during the month of August for the past 4 years. Many more acts will be announced soon! Harvey Bainbridge toured the US last year with Strange Trips and enjoyed himself so much that he's going back to do it once more. He promises some surprises and we are certainly looking forward to the chance of working with Harvey. >>From Jim Lascko of Strange Trips: "I recently caught a Mr. Quimby's Beard show when I was in England and they are absolutely killer live! They have a full, beautiful, sound with lots and lots of mushroom magic in it. Bridging the gap between space travel and earth magic they occupy the space/time continuum that exists between Hawkwind http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/ and the Ozric Tentacles http://www.ozrics.com/ ....but with their own original music and very unique style. They were extremely powerful and had quite a nice variety in their set. The crowd was very enthusiastic and seemed to love and respond to them very well. They are certainly one of the freshest and strongest acts I have seen in a long, long, time! Please don't miss this great opportunity to see them LIVE in the US". There are plans in the works to beef up The Solar Fire Lightshow http://www.solarfirelightshow.com/ for this new tour. They will be adding new gels, more strobes, smoke, a new Opti Kinetics projector or two and hopefully (keep your fingers crossed) some laser light action will be forth coming in time for the tour. The Cleveland show will also have video projections incorporated into the lightshow. Watch for future updates on http://www.btinternet.com/~freakyfungi/FreakyFungiNews.htm or http://www.Strange-Trips.com Any promoters, venues, or bands interested in booking this full production show into their city should contact Jim Lascko at (216) 252-6148 or email him at: jmfinity at Strange-Trips.com for more info and details. Check out the recent Strange Recordings releases at http://www.strange-trips.com/new.html . These are all good strong recordings from board DAT or better, pumped up and made to flow with nice artwork. I believe that most fans who hear them will be pretty pleased with what they are - a documentation of some of the Strange Trips shows with good live performances at a reasonable cost! Z From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sun Jul 1 11:56:27 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 16:56:27 +0100 Subject: BOC: ST, AoF remasters Message-ID: Well, I think the remastering is well worth it - both of these sound very crisp and new, and a definite improvement. (I expect Steve to say he thinks the original mastering was better though :)) Extra tracks - I do tend to feel a bit of trepidation about the tracks which weren't considered good enough for the original release; I mean, the track was wasn't as good as "Debbie Denise"? The "proper" extras, the finished tracks, though, are really good - "Boorman" probably the pick from the two albums, a Joe classic with a real "Hot Rails" vibe. "Fire of Unknown Origin" definitely is better than "Debbie Denise" and should have been on the album - a bit of a Brain Surgeons feel to the arrangement, maybe? Though "Sally" isn't as good as the Brain Surgeons' version! The demos on AoF are a bit poor, though, as are the rather tinny "Born to be Wild" and the utterly unnecessary single edit of "Career of Evil." Interesting, yes, but you'll get up and change the disc before these most times you play it. Still, very high marks for these, if rather overdue, and at a good price too. I'll definitely pick up the other two, and see who wants to buy the BOC/T&M disc I've got... :) So, are there plans to remaster the entire catalogue? Not that I'm absolutely certain I want a remastered MIRRORS, with the rough demo of "You're Not the One," but you know... :) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Jul 1 12:55:42 2001 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 18:55:42 +0200 Subject: TEST Message-ID: Seems like I'm getting no e-mails through? From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Sun Jul 1 13:15:03 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 13:15:03 -0400 Subject: BOC: ram Message-ID: http://www.electricbasement.com/boc_hurricane.ram Z From StevenTice at AOL.COM Sun Jul 1 14:08:33 2001 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 14:08:33 EDT Subject: BOC: ST, AoF remasters Message-ID: In a message dated 07/01/2001 11:56:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, email at ANDYGILHAM.COM writes: > Well, I think the remastering is well worth it - both of these sound very > crisp and new, and a definite improvement. (I expect Steve to say he thinks > the original mastering was better though :)) > > Extra tracks - I do tend to feel a bit of trepidation about the tracks which > weren't considered good enough for the original release; I mean, the track > was wasn't as good as "Debbie Denise"? The "proper" extras, the finished > tracks, though, are really good - "Boorman" probably the pick from the two > albums, a Joe classic with a real "Hot Rails" vibe. "Fire of Unknown > Origin" definitely is better than "Debbie Denise" and should have been on > the album - a bit of a Brain Surgeons feel to the arrangement, maybe? > Though "Sally" isn't as good as the Brain Surgeons' version! > > The demos on AoF are a bit poor, though, as are the rather tinny "Born to be > Wild" and the utterly unnecessary single edit of "Career of Evil." > Interesting, yes, but you'll get up and change the disc before these most > times you play it. > > Still, very high marks for these, if rather overdue, and at a good price > too. I'll definitely pick up the other two, and see who wants to buy the > BOC/T&M disc I've got... :) > > So, are there plans to remaster the entire catalogue? Not that I'm > absolutely certain I want a remastered MIRRORS, with the rough demo of > "You're Not the One," but you know... :) > > -- Andy > To respond to the latter observation first...if nothing else, Mirrors would present an opportunity for everyone to hear The Devil's Hangnail, which is the original song that metamorphosed into The Vigil and had some nasty Patti Smith lyrics. As for rejected songs being lesser than songs that make an album, that is not always the case. There are any number of reasons a song might be dropped from an album. Sometimes the song just doesn't quite fit in with the rest of the songs...so no matter how good it is, it gets cut. This happened fairly frequently with Jethro Tull, for instance...and where BOC is concerned, both The Girl Love Made Blind and the version of Gil Blanco County intended for Imaginos are great tracks but both a bit different in style from the rest of Imaginos. I personally am hoping that both of those tracks plus Albert's demo of Half Life Time will appear on a remastered Imaginos...if they DO remaster Imaginos. Steven Tice Calliope Comics 519 Valentine Hill Road Bellefonte, PA 16823 814-355-9830 Musings Online: www.geocities.com/calliopecomics/index.html From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Jul 1 13:27:46 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Timothy E Elliott) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 13:27:46 -0400 Subject: TEST Message-ID: received here ok Filip Vanhuyse wrote: > > Seems like I'm getting no e-mails through? From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jul 1 21:58:50 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 01:58:50 -0000 Subject: OFF: Song titles Message-ID: beware of the haggis hunters,beaware that their rifels shoot around corners due to the bend in the barrel,mangy kur . >From: Nick Medford >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: OFF: Song titles >Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 05:57:57 -0400 > >On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:07:01 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI > wrote: > > >wot - even better than > >'The Song Of McGuillicudie the Puscillanimous (or Don't Worry James Your > >Socks are hanging in the cellar with Thomas)" > >from the very first Egg album > >Always a good one when you're talking great song titles! > >Pretty striking I grant you. Of course there's always the old Floyd >standby, "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A >Cave and Grooving With A Pict". > >However while such titles score highly on the wack-o-meter, I was thinking >more of titles which are like a slogan or buzzy phrase that rattle round >your head for days on end. I always liked the Psychedelic Furs' title "Into >You Like A Train" though the song was nothing special. > >NM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jul 1 22:10:55 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 02:10:55 -0000 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: one of the cheech and chong is actually D.E.A. a mangy kur. >From: "Mich at el B" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle >Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:32:42 +0930 > >Yeah - the one that cheech accidently pees on at the US-mexican border >bathroom and then again at the police station when they meet those chicks >and try to score some dope from their cop friend in up in smoke !!! > >he also turns into a big green lizard in Nice Dreams > >Mb > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Stephen Lindas >To: >Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 2:40 AM >Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle > > > > Thats the cop in CHEECH AND CHONG skits. STEPHE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ted Jackson [mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] > > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:10 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle > > > > > > On 30 Jun 2001, at 1:35, SGT STEDANKO wrote: > > > > Damn! I'm wracking my brain over this. Who was Sgt. Stedanko? > > I know I've heard it before... > > > > theo _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 2 02:13:12 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 07:13:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles/ Pink Fairies Message-ID: > the army and then six in the Ozrics without a break. But Schoo has been a > fan forever, apparently, and he clearly remembers the old days when the > Ozrics were more, well, tribal. And now he drums that way and they are > again, the whole thing being a lot more breathlessly intense despite (or > perhaps even because of) being so well-prepared. If you have a chance to > see them this tour (there's still some left) do it. They're really good > now. Best of the bunch. Really. 20/20." Not seen them since he joined permanently, but Schoo (Stuart to his mum, I believe) formerly of the Rhythmites (festi-reggae types who opened for HW regularly in the '88-'89 era) guested with them couple of years back in Milton Keynes, when Rad had put his back out. Rather than cancel the gig they got the phone to him and he drove across, apparently listening to Ozrics tapes all the way and walked straight on stage and started playing, the gig only starting an hour or so late. Playing to cues from Zia he slotted in perfectly and the jammed/improvised nature of the gig made for one the best Ozrics gigs I'd seen in years, harking back to the more rambling free-form gigs of their earlier days. Nick From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jul 2 04:41:04 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 09:41:04 +0100 Subject: HW: for Jon Browne In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010701022818.009596c0@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: In article <4.2.0.58.20010701022818.009596c0 at pop.eunet.no>, christmu at eunet.no writes >Jon, I saw your reply to my post in alt.music.psychedelic. Didn't have time >to answer before my server deleted the message though. Anyway, to answer >your question, I saw Hawkwind live in Oslo 1991 and New York 1995. Both >excellent fucking shows... > >Chr. > yeah, d00d. I run across you on Usenet surprisingly frequently. I'm enjoying your visits to alt.magick, too, Charlie. Almost broke my silence! cheers -- Jon From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Jul 2 08:09:41 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 05:09:41 -0700 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: Michael, Your description sounds like my ex wife. If by some chance she's on your side of the pond I pity all you poor bastards. Warning - attempting to copulate with that insidious she-troll will most likely cause you sterilty, possibly change your sexual orientation ( at the very least comtemplation of celibacy) and cause your pee pee to burn. Of course, if their shooting cows for Mad Cow Disease, I'm sure that someone could terninate that vermin as a public service and justifiable disease control - just don't send it back, extinction can be a good thing, think Pollio. Enjoy - Steve The Moonman. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mich at el B To: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle > Hagii have tits? > > I thought they were all gutt? with little spidly legs? > > and beady eyes? > > Mb > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nick Medford > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 2:40 AM > Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle > > > > On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:35:19 +0100, M Holmes > wrote: > > > > >SGT STEDANKO writes: > > > > > >> does that mean there will be hot haggis served during the trip? > > > > > >They're out of season until the 12th. It's the breeding season you see. > > > > > >> heh > > >> has there ever been a vegetarian version of a hagis? hmmmmm > > > > > >It's easy enough to get vegetarian haggis around here. Obviously that's > > >all year because they don't need to shoot any haggii. > > > > > >FoFP > > > > Mike what's your favourite part of the haggis? Are you a leg man, a breast > > man, or what? > > From daniel.wikdahl at HOME.SE Mon Jul 2 09:18:31 2001 From: daniel.wikdahl at HOME.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 15:18:31 +0200 Subject: OFF: Hi Message-ID: OK, I'm back. I've missed you guys... it has been three years... h?lsningar // daniel wikdahl ps If Scott Heller still is out there somewhere... I feel guilty, is there anything I can do for you? ds From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jul 2 09:54:05 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 23:24:05 +0930 Subject: OFF: Hi Message-ID: Hi there~ Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Wikdahl To: Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 10:48 PM Subject: OFF: Hi > OK, I'm back. > I've missed you guys... it has been three years... > > h?lsningar // daniel wikdahl > > ps If Scott Heller still is out there somewhere... I feel guilty, > is there anything I can do for you? ds > From rtolsha at WPGATE.SHS.ILSTU.EDU Mon Jul 2 09:40:35 2001 From: rtolsha at WPGATE.SHS.ILSTU.EDU (Richard Olshak) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 08:40:35 -0500 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 1 Jul 2001 to 2 Jul 2001 (#2001-268) Message-ID: BOC: Lyrics Forgive me if this has already been asked. Are the lyrics from "Curse of the Hidden Mirror" available anywhere? Thanks, Rick Olshak From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 2 10:20:38 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 15:20:38 +0100 Subject: HW - Newcastle In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:10:06 -0400 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:35:19 +0100, M Holmes wrote: > > >SGT STEDANKO writes: > > > >> does that mean there will be hot haggis served during the trip? > > > >They're out of season until the 12th. It's the breeding season you see. > > > >> heh > >> has there ever been a vegetarian version of a hagis? hmmmmm > > > >It's easy enough to get vegetarian haggis around here. Obviously that's > >all year because they don't need to shoot any haggii. > > > >FoFP > > Mike what's your favourite part of the haggis? Are you a leg man, a breast > man, or what? A leg man really. I like the downhill legs because they're longer. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 2 10:23:20 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 15:23:20 +0100 Subject: stonehenge 84 In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:45:43 -0400 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:16:19 -0500, Stephen Lindas > wrote: > > >Does anyone know if ROY HARPER introduced HAWKWIND at STONEHENGE 84? THANKS > >STEPHE > > I asked this here recently, response came there none, but I'm pretty sure > that's him introducing them before "Watching the Grass Grow" on Do Not > Panic. > > Presumably some people here were there, although memories of such events > can be a little hazy... Yeah, Roy Harper was on just before Hawkwind. FoFP From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Jul 2 10:49:06 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 10:49:06 -0400 Subject: BOC: Finding lyrics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rick wrote: > Forgive me if this has already been asked. Are the lyrics from "Curse > of the Hidden Mirror" available anywhere? Go to http://www.blueoystercult.com./Studio-main.html Click on the album cover Then click on the song titles Happy hunting! Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jul 2 05:28:40 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 10:28:40 +0100 Subject: stonehenge 84 In-Reply-To: <3B3CB416.FAFBA654@cinesite.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <3B3CB416.FAFBA654 at cinesite.co.uk>, Keith Barton writes >I remember The Cardiacs and The Enid played aswell as Roy Harper. >Keef I just got back from Tim Smith from Cardiacs' 40th birthday party just this Saturday night at his place in the country. Camping, bands, the works. wow fun! "What time are the Hawks on?" was a running one liner. Quite a few Henge vets were there! -- Jon From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Mon Jul 2 11:56:06 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 11:56:06 -0400 Subject: BOC: Finding lyrics Message-ID: Speaking of those things, any rumblings out there if the lyrics will be added to the official site for the bonus tunes heretofore unreleased? What I love about BOC's Mk. I lineup (shout out to all you DP fans who know this kinda fun group labeling)) is that they so heavily represented a melting pot of the American rock and roll scene up to that time. Even comparing the live 7SDb to the album version and the OYF take of the tune shows that this band when it was on, were open to playing in any style possible, and their arrangements were open enough that you could have Beachboys like vox harmonies on top of jazz with the pyschadelic incorporation of the mideastern "style" and sheer Chuck berry-would-be-proud monster chording, althewhile playing with a leer and an ofkitler step, like its a group that can step back while in the middle of playing a song and go "man, this groove we're cookin' on is good. lets see where it takes us." ROCK ROCK ROCK (and roll) Jason From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jul 2 13:14:24 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:14:24 +0100 Subject: newmail Message-ID: dib235 at another.com spacehead at stonedvisionary.com please ignore any mail coming from mrdibs at another.com and spacehead at spacestation.co.uk they have been infiltrated by an ex-member of the band, and may be being used for heinious purposes. spacehead would like to apologise in advance of any offense that may be caused, we have no control over this at the moment. Dibs. From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Mon Jul 2 13:16:50 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 13:16:50 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bucks Boogie credits. Message-ID: Umm... call me crazy but I thought that it was written by A.Bouchard and D. Roeser after taking the music from Arthur Comics. The remaster lists "S. Pearlman, E. Bloom and A Bouchard" in the writing credits for the studio version. Odd. The plot thickens? Jason From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jul 2 13:06:21 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 13:06:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul II returns? Message-ID: Hi All... Looks like I'm not going to go to Burg Herzberg sadly, as the airline tickets were not so cheap for then. However, there *were* in fact good deals from Pittsburgh to Frankfurt in August, and I just found out about this other fest that Kalle's doing! And with Amon Duul II apparently! Wonder who all's included in this lineup. Anybody know? Andy G(ilham)...did you know about this? Some other good bands too...none of which I've ever seen. Mother Jane is 'members of Jane' I've heard. And Suzuki/Karoli would be fun! My brother (it's his fault I heard Hawkwind in 1980) is planning to go to Germany in August (he lives in Pittsburgh), and so with some stroke of luck, we *might* make mutually-rewarding plans. And idea of going to both Canterbury (the week beforehand) and this one...well, that would be too good to be true now, wouldn't it? As a side note, I'm hoping to move (temporarily) to Bern, Switzerland next year so it would be nice to check out the 'area.' (Not that Frankfurt is so close.) Well, just thought I'd let people know that this other cool German fest exists, and to see if anyone else was going! Grakkl (FAA) NotObCD: Porcupine Tree - Recordings (Skip it.) Think Progressive Tel.: +49 (0)6684 919388 Hofbieberer Str. 9 Fax: +49 (0)6684 919390 36167 Morles e-mail:think.progressive at t-onlien.de (I'm guessing this is a typo, and it should be online of course, KH This is Kalle Becker's deal, obviously.) Kloster Cornberg Open-Air - The Herzberg Classics 24./25/26. August 2001 Bisher wurden folgende Bands best?tigt: Kraan Man Epitaph Mother Jane Damo Suzuki`s Network feat. Karoli Mila Mare Blues Power Universal Supersession Amon D??l 2 Weitere Best?tigungen folgen Der Vorverkauf hat begonnen. Tickets 55,- DM + VVK-Geb?hr ?ber unsere Hotline Liebe Freundinnen und Freunde, Think Progressive hat im Rahmen eines Vertrages mit der Gemeinde Cornberg, die Durchf?hrung von Konzerten in der Naturb?hne Cornberg Federf?hrend ?bernommen. Kloster Cornberg liegt Zentral zwischen Kassel, Fulda, Eschwege und Eisenach. Das mittelalterliche Kloster wurde in den 80ern restauriert und der Innenhof dieses atmosph?rischen Geb?udes ist in den Sommermonaten st?ndig mit einer B?hne best?ckt. In unmittelbarer N?he zum Kloster liegt ein alter Steinbruch mit einem kleinen See. Dieser Steinbruch wurde von der Gemeinde in dreij?hriger Arbeit zu einer Naturb?hne umgebaut. So entstand hier, ohne zu ?bertreiben, eine der sch?nsten Rock-Arenen der Republik. Direkt an das Gel?nde grenzen gro?e Wiesenfl?chen, die w?hrend der Veranstaltungen zum campen genutzt werden k?nnen. Das Fassungsverm?gen der Naturb?hne liegt bei etwa 7 000 Besuchern. In diesem Sommer werden wir hier vier Veranstaltungen durchf?hren. Unter anderem wird es am Wochenende 24.-26. August ein Open-Air veranstalten. Das ganze steht so ein bisschen unter dem Motto ?Back to the roots - Herzbergclassics? , was f?r uns auf der eine Seite soviel hei?t, die Atmosph?re des alten Burg Herzberg Open-Airs der fr?hen 90er wieder herzustellen. Auf der anderen Seite wollen wir das produzieren, was uns am Herzberg an Bands beeindruckt hat, bzw. was wir dort immer schon mal machen wollten, aber aus irgendwelchen Gr?nden nicht geklappt hat Das Konzept ist wie gehabt, eine Mischung aus der alten Rockszene und der Neopsychedelic. Auf der Klosterb?hne werden wir neuen Bands der Prog-Szene die M?glichkeit f?r einen Auftritt geben. From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Jul 2 12:59:18 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 12:59:18 -0400 Subject: BOC: musical melting pot (was Re: BOC: Finding lyrics) In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F66CA@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: > What I love about BOC's Mk. I lineup (shout out to all you DP fans who know > this kinda fun group labeling)) is that they so heavily represented a > melting pot of the American rock and roll scene up to that time. Blue Oyster Cult Representing the thinking man's postmodern musical, anti-classification, rock 'n' roll hegemony at a concert hall, public house, or racetrack near you! I'm sure there are bands who did more genre-shifting than BOC ever did. But the boys were definitely one of the best at it. It's only rock 'n' roll with excursions into pop, metal, jazz, blues, punk, psych, prog, country, and show tunes...but I like it, like it, yes I do! Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Jul 2 15:16:37 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 20:16:37 +0100 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between Coronation Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically about his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section playing on the soundtrack. Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. No joke. From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Mon Jul 2 15:21:37 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 15:21:37 -0400 Subject: musical melting pot (was Re: BOC: Finding lyrics) Message-ID: Dance the Night Away, speaking of melting(?), feels like Debbie Denise but done from A.Lanier's pov with the whole waiting at home while out rolling with one's band. A lil more haunting, but I think that its just as much due to the unfamiliarity of Allen's singing and the non-production of the demo track as it is the song itself. It would be a cool venture, and probably one that wont' result in money loss, if BOC authorized Bolle to do a "Bolle's Picks" bootleg series of the shows he has (and the band member's show archives too) akin to the collector series that King Crim has of bootlegged shows gone by. I think we would all want the complete Live in the west, given the two samples on T&M alone. What are the rest of the tracks on the album/tape by the way? the limo man kept on driving, Jason From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jul 2 15:35:02 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 05:05:02 +0930 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: ha ha! wish i could see that!~! Tee hee - tape it?? Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:46 AM Subject: HW: What The... There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between Coronation Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically about his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section playing on the soundtrack. Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. No joke. From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Jul 2 16:11:58 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 21:11:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul II returns? In-Reply-To: <200107021820.OAA14266@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: > with Amon Duul II apparently! Wonder who all's included in this lineup. > Anybody know? Andy G(ilham)...did you know about this? News to me - I'll drop various folks a line and see what's up! -- Andy www.andygilham.com From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon Jul 2 17:21:00 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 17:21:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: High Tide, Tony Hill, Simon House, Pete Pavli, Ade Shaw, Long Message-ID: I've spent part of the weekend listening to 2 new releases from the High Tide camp: High Tide - Open Season, on Black Widow Records, via CDServices, and Tony Hill - Inexactness, direct from Woronzow, and here's a bit of a description of them. Open Season is 2 new tracks bracketing a compilation of older material. The new stuff probably shouldn't be called High Tide material - the 1st track is really a Tony Hill solo piece, the last is a Pete Pavli solo piece, each backed up by Adrian Shaw on Bass/Drums and Drums respectively, but they are definitely good whatever they choose to call it. The artwork is nice, a thorough copy of, I mean homage to, Sea Shanties. Everything from the layout and artwork on the front and back covers to the sailing ship inner art mimics Sea Shanties - I rather like the overall effect. Artists appearing are: Tony Hill - TH - gtr, vox Simon House - SH - violin Peter Pavli - PP - bass, cello Roger Hadden - RH - drums Android Funnel - AF - gtr Drachen Theaker - DrT - drums Dave Tomlin - DvT - violin, bass Adrian Shaw - AS - bass, drums Info on the tracks: 1. Open Season 2000 - TH/AS Tony still has it. 2. Unearthed 3. Static in the Attic 4. The Ballad of Norris Mill 5. The Great Universal Confidence Trick 1970 - TH/SH/PP/RH Original lineup. This material has better sound quality than the Precious Cargo Live Jam, but the material is very similar - in fact, a version of track #5 (TGUCT) appears on Precious Cargo where it's titled 'Exploration'. This is fine stuff. 6. Icarus Phoenix 7. Unhinged 8. All of One Race 1971 - TH/AF/PP/DrT This continues in the vein of the previous tracks from '70 - if it weren't for the absence of Simon House and the noticeably differnt drummer it might almost sound like it was from the same sessions. PP plays cello on one track making up for the lack of violin, and this is more fine material. 9. Resonance 1974 - TH/DvT/PP/DrT This track is a bit of a return to the heavier prog/psych sound of Sea Shanties and High Tide. An excellent piece. 10. Turn Yourself Down 1990 - TH/PP/DvT/DrT Wow. This is absolutely fantastic. A 24 minute instrumental piece with PP playing orchestral-style keyboards as a very effective backdrop to TH's amazing guitar explorations. Very space/jazz/rock. If High Tide was putting out more of this kind of music at this time, then I am mightily pissed at having missed it. 11. Light Your Torch 12. Steady in E 1976 - TH/PP/DrT Again, this is similar to the other 70's material, but the arrangements sound more stripped-down, presumably the result of being down to a trio and no apparent multi-tracking. 13. Garage Gods 1990 - TH/SH/DrT 1990 seems to have been a very good year for High Tide. This is yet another fantastic piece, in a completely differnt vein from Turn Yourself Down. The slightly jazzy touch on TYD is replaced by a very spacerock, Hawkwind 'Warrior' feel. This track is also very reminiscent of the material on Interesting Times, but the presence of a live drummer addresses one of the minor problems I had with that release. 14. Spindle 2000 - PP/AS So, all the 70's material is excellent stuff, mostly in the more melodic/folkish vein of Precious Cargo, rather than the heavy psych/prog of the 1st 2 releases. The real surprise for me here was the 90's material. As I understand it, all the material except #1 and #14 was compiled from various High Tide releases - The Flood ('70-'76), and Ancient Gates/A Fierce Nature/Reason of Success (all '90), and maybe the Tony Hill solo LP Playing for Time, none of which I've heard. I've listed all the tracks/years/players above partly in the hope that someone who owns these albums will tell us what is on them - for example, is all of the material from The Flood here? And is the 1990 material on Open Season representative of the other music on the '90 releases? Which albums did these tracks appear on? etc. Also, depending on the answers to these questions, I'd like to know if anyone knows where one can get copies of those releases. The Tony Hill release (Inexactness) has the following players: Tony Hill - gtr, vox Pete Pavli - bass on 3 tracks Ade Shaw - bass Andy Ward - drums Matt Kelly - violin/viola Nick Saloman - gtr/organ/synth I went into this one hoping for more of the great guitar excursions which Tony Hill/Andy Ward/Ade Shaw had produced on the 2 tracks 'High' and 'Tide' for Acid Jam 2. So initialy I was a bit disappointed - here, only the 1st track and the 14-minute 'Of Foundries, Ships, and Steeples' follows that general pattern. Most of the rest of the pieces here begin to approach a standard-song-like structure - much more so than just about anything I have yet heard from Tony Hill. Still this is Tony Hill we're talking about and when I say approach, that means it's still pretty far from a pop song. Some of what makes me call them song-like are more vocals than usual, lyrics that seem to be a bit more staightforward in some cases, and a tendency of the musicians to find a groove and stay with it. High Tide often found a groove as well, but they never stayed with it long, jumping out and going off exploring, maybe to return to the groove later, or to find another groove altogether. That said, this one has definitely grown on me quite a bit, and pretty rapidly too. After discarding my preconceptions and listening to this for what it is and not what I want it to be, I'll admit that these are pretty strong songs and well worth getting. There are also plenty of High Tide moments scattered throughout - just don't expect to hear High Tide from beginning to end - something Woronzow has apparently anticipated by releasing this as a Tony Hill rather than a High Tide release, even if Tony Hill pretty much is High Tide like DB is Hawkwind or Lemmy is Motorhead. So to sum up, these are 2 excellent releases. I would say Open Season is pretty much essential for High Tide fans if, like me, they don't have the hard-to-find releases containing material that dates from after the early 70s. And the Tony Hill disc may actually appeal to a wider audience since the progressive tendencies of most of Tony's material is tempered by the Woronzow crew's straight-ahead rocking psychedelic predilections. Stephan From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon Jul 2 17:21:03 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 17:21:03 -0400 Subject: BOC: ST, AoF remasters, + Mirrors, Jethro Tull, even HW Message-ID: > ...if nothing else, > Mirrors would present an opportunity for everyone to hear The > Devil's Hangnail, which is the original song that metamorphosed > into The Vigil and had some nasty Patti Smith lyrics. Although I can somewhat understand it, I have to put up a (small) protest to the slagging Mirrors occasionally takes here. Sure, it's got its share of dogs (Dr. Music) and somewhat boring stuff (Moon Crazy, Lonely Teardrops), but The Great Sun Jester is definitely one of my all-time favorite BOC pieces, The Vigil is likewise great, I am the Storm is pretty good, and I really like In Thee, which I take at face value as a completely non-ironic statement and love it for both its sentiment and its presentation. Admittedly the album is a very mixed bag, but the good tracks here are really good, in several different ways. Maybe the fact that they seem to be all over the place turns people off? Or is it that this was too 'pop'-py an album? > As for rejected songs being lesser than songs that make an album, that > is not always the case. There are any number of reasons a song > might be dropped from an album. Sometimes the song just doesn't > quite fit in with the rest of the songs...so no matter how good it > is, it gets cut. This happened fairly frequently with Jethro Tull, > for instance... As was amply demonstrated with the fantastic 20 Year (5 LP/3 CD) boxed set that collected lots of these 'extra' tracks, and, to a much lesser extent, disc 2 of Nightcap. Many of those unreleased songs were really good, as good as the prviously released 'official' material, in some cases even better. I think though that some cleanup and additions were done for some of those tracks before they were let out for the boxed set. Incidently, the BBC DJ who appears doing voiceover on some of the early live tracks collected for the JT 20 year set (Brian Matthews) can also be heard on the 2 Hawkwind tracks from the BBC transcription disc (collected on the Dawn of Hawkwind boot). Hey, now I've linked 3 of my favorite bands - HW, JT, and BOC - in one post - without stretching - I feel all tingly. Woohoo! Stephan From AgentOF at AOL.COM Mon Jul 2 19:05:00 2001 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 19:05:00 EDT Subject: BOC: ST, AoF remasters, + Mirrors, Jethro Tull, even HW Message-ID: << The slagging Mirrors occasionally takes here. Sure, it's got its share of dogs (Dr. Music) and somewhat boring stuff (Moon Crazy, Lonely Teardrops), >> Yikes! 3 reasons why I like Mirrors! I can remember it well...when Mirrors first came out, I loved it and played it as much as I am Curse of the Hidden Mirror now. To me, the weakest tracks on Mirrors were In Thee and Mirrors. Of course, if I throw in on, I'm not skipping over either one of those! (Can't say that about One Step Ahead of the Devil and I Just Want to be Bad.) chuck From coral at APORT.RU Tue Jul 3 02:58:10 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:58:10 +0400 Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong Message-ID: Hello! Listening to the Queen's song "Headlong" and hear a lot of similarities with the HW song Needle Gun. Long ago I wanted to ask is it only me who hear that Queen stole music from Hawkwind? cheers, Alice From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jul 3 03:54:44 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:54:44 +0100 Subject: HW: What The... In-Reply-To: <00b301c1032c$b036a4a0$9d1428d5@starfield> Message-ID: In article <00b301c1032c$b036a4a0$9d1428d5 at starfield>, Captain Bl at ck writes > >Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. > >No joke. playing with all sweetness and sensitivity, too. Brilliant advert. very funny. -- Jon From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jul 3 04:37:26 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 16:37:26 +0800 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: Captain Bl at ck wrote: > >Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. > > > >No joke. Jon wrote: > playing with all sweetness and sensitivity, too. Brilliant advert. > very funny. > -- > Jon > How come you guys get all the good ads? First the Mazda ad, then this.... Bill From jxvin at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 3 07:59:41 2001 From: jxvin at HOTMAIL.COM (Jas Viner) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 12:59:41 +0100 Subject: Hw Gig Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Jul 3 08:21:16 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:21:16 -0400 Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong In-Reply-To: <006601c1038d$861ffd40$e703efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: Alice wrote: > Listening to the Queen's song "Headlong" and hear a lot of similarities with > the HW song Needle Gun. Long ago I wanted to ask is it only me who hear that > Queen stole music from Hawkwind? I think they're both just straight-ahead rock songs, so there's going to be a similarity in the riffs. The "blanga blanga" thing. The melodies aren't very similar to my ears though. I doubt there's any blatant rip-off. Other than that, the only similarities I can hear are that they're both kind of cheezy--and I like them. ;-) Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jul 3 08:52:45 2001 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 13:52:45 +0100 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: So, Keith, you admit to watching 'Coronation Street' then do you??? I presume this is simply to worship the spirits of the one known as Khenbaaarloooooo, and not because you are an incurable soap fan. Neil. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:16 PM Subject: HW: What The... There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between Coronation Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically about his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section playing on the soundtrack. Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. No joke. From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Tue Jul 3 09:06:45 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 09:06:45 -0400 Subject: BOC: Lots o' Stuff Message-ID: > Umm... call me crazy but I thought that it was written by A.Bouchard and D. > Roeser after taking the music from Arthur Comics. > The remaster lists "S. Pearlman, E. Bloom and A Bouchard" in the writing > credits for the studio version. Odd. > The plot thickens? Yes, I think this was an obvious mistake - hell, this doesn't even list BUCK as having written Buck's Boogie. Probably a cut and paste error from another song - the "Workshop of the Telescopes" compilation finally got it right (according to Bolle) - previously it was credited only to Buck, but the compilation credited it to both Buck and Albert. Besides, exactly what part of Buck's Boogie could be attributed to Sandy Pearlman - he only supplied lyrics! "The plot thickens?" Nah, don't be so cynical. > What I love about BOC's Mk. I lineup (shout out to all you DP fans who know > this kinda fun group labeling)) Hey, has anyone ever done one of those "tree diagrams" showing all the incarnations of BOC and where various members came from or went to? > It would be a cool venture, and probably one that wont' result in money > loss, if BOC authorized Bolle to do a "Bolle's Picks" bootleg series of the > shows he has (and the band member's show archives too) akin to the > collector series that King Crim has of bootlegged shows gone by. Indeed. However, I suspect that much of "Bolle's Picks" are being handled with these remasters as I believe he made some suggestions to Sony as to what should/could be included. So, with these remasters and the SFG album (oh, and the Buck Dharma Archive stuff too), you're really getting some of the best of the best stuff out there. Perhaps after all the Remasters come out we could take stock of what stuff is still out there that should see the light of day (SWU demos perhaps?). > I think we would all want the complete Live in the west, given the two > samples on T&M alone. Agreed. > What are the rest of the tracks on the album/tape by the way? Funny you should ask - I'm adding the "Live in the West" to the FAQ - here's the entry that will be in the next revision (due out in August, I hope): *Live In The West* (Also known as *BOC In The West* - Soundboard Recording, Tape Only) 1. Stairway To The Stars 2. O.D.'d On Life Itself 3. Harvester Of Eyes 4. Flaming Telepaths 5. Dominance And Submission 6. The Subhuman 7. 7 Screaming Diz-Busters 8. Astronomy 9. Cities On Flame With Rock And Roll 10. Buck's Boogie 11. Hot Rails To Hell 12. Maserati GT Notes: Strictly speaking, this is not a "bootleg", but a live tape. What distinguishes it from other BOC live tapes is that this recording was produced by the band (actually by soundman George Geranios) and circulated among family and friends. It was created from shows done during a week in July of 1975, in Washington, Oregon and California, and has been traded extensively by fans since that time. It is perhaps most noted for it's version of "7 Screaming Diz-Busters" which features an extended "rap" by Eric telling the story of selling his soul to the Devil to become a rock star, and forseeing his future in a nursing home for old rock stars when the Devil comes calling for his soul. This track, along with "O.D.'d On Life Itself" were released by Columbia/Legacy on the *Tyranny And Mutation* re-master as bonus tracks. > the limo man kept on driving, Don't you just LOVE this track?!?! > Although I can somewhat understand it, I have to put up a (small) protest to > the slagging Mirrors occasionally takes here. Sure, it's got its share of > dogs (Dr. Music) and somewhat boring stuff (Moon Crazy, Lonely Teardrops), > but The Great Sun Jester is definitely one of my all-time favorite BOC > pieces, The Vigil is likewise great, I am the Storm is pretty good, and I > really like In Thee, which I take at face value as a completely non-ironic > statement and love it for both its sentiment and its presentation. > Admittedly the album is a very mixed bag, but the good tracks here are > really good, in several different ways. Maybe the fact that they seem to be > all over the place turns people off? Or is it that this was too 'pop'-py an > album? Sigh - anytime Mirrors, Revolution By Night, or (esp.) Club Ninja gets degraded in any way (even if IN JEST!!!), someone always rushes to its defense. There IS good stuff on the album - even the tracks you mentioned not liking (Dr. Music, Moon Crazy, Lonely Teardrops) are enjoyable to me - but as a whole the album has its problems. Bolle has said that Mirrors nearly singlehandedly destroyed the fanclub in the 70s - not his words, but he did say that the "membership" dropped WAY off after Mirrors came out. > > > As for rejected songs being lesser than songs that make an album, that > > is not always the case. There are any number of reasons a song > > might be dropped from an album. Sometimes the song just doesn't > > quite fit in with the rest of the songs...so no matter how good it > > is, it gets cut. This happened fairly frequently with Jethro Tull, > > for instance... "Boorman the Chauffer" is a great example, IMHO. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jul 3 10:06:05 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:06:05 EDT Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong Message-ID: In a message dated 7/3/01 8:18:09 AM, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: << Alice wrote: > Listening to the Queen's song "Headlong" and hear a lot of similarities with > the HW song Needle Gun. Long ago I wanted to ask is it only me who hear that > Queen stole music from Hawkwind? >> [========= dunno whether if it's 'only you' but it aint me babe. i would say no, Queen didnt steal from hawkwind. any number of bands could have done something as outrageously SIMPLE as 'needle gun' which, as it is, isnt too terribly far from 'kings of speed' ===== "<>" From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Tue Jul 3 10:11:15 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:11:15 -0400 Subject: BOC:(more) Lots o' Stuff Message-ID: >Besides, exactly what part of Buck's Boogie could be >attributed to Sandy >Pearlman - he only supplied lyrics! (chuckle) maybe he was the first to coin the term "boogie" as a song title, that great visionary he is.(smirk) Or, he could have said "Donald, play the song like Buck Dharma would play it." After all, this is the only track where B.Dharma is given writing credits (on OYF).. is it? >Hey, has anyone ever done one of those "tree diagrams" showing all the >incarnations of BOC and where various members came from or went to? Funnily enough, a few years ago I did do that, by combing through the FAQ for dates personnel etc. Its actually quite BIG once you throw in the numerous drummers the band had in the 90's (like Micelli, Rondinelli, Burgi.... huh, I just noticed that odd affinity for a vowel ending) I'll see If I can dig it up, clean it off and scan it somewhere. There's well over a dozen incarnations of BOC's numerous memberships (including SFG and SWU and Oaxaca etc) T'would be fun. Would have to update it to include the current tBS lineup changes, the Dunaway Smith and Bouchard band, and the Helen Wheels BouchardBouchardRoeser co. >the Remasters come out we could take stock of what stuff is still out >there that should see the light of day (SWU demos perhaps?). There is that annoyingly tantalizing BOC remaster sampler disc with the demo of Hot Rails to Hell and "John L Sullivan" from SWU (referred to in Meltzer's Aesthetics of Rock as "John L. Sullivan Readymade, whose "words" (his term) Meltzer wrote.) Cant remember the page number, but SWU is in the index. >Funny you should ask - I'm adding the "Live in the West" to the FAQ - >here's the entry that will be in the next revision (due out in >August, I hope): Coool! This is by far the summer for BOC, in all its incarnations. How rare is that for a band? >*Live In The West* (Also known as *BOC In The West* - Soundboard >Recording, Tape Only) [snip] That's quite a tasty collection of tunes. Though I wont rest till I hear a Live Quicklime Girl. heheh. By any chance does harvester/telepaths include the musicbox intro? >> the limo man kept on driving, >Don't you just LOVE this track?!?! Yes. yes I do. If the X Bros ever reappear on the live stage, Joe MUST PLAY this track. What I think is coolest about Boorman above all is that it has everyone doing something in the tune, Alan's monster Hammond, alternating Joe and Eric Vocals, the always interesting background vocals of the brothers Bouchard and Dharma and a cool guitar solo tempo change thing at the end of the song on top of the topnotch percussion/rhythm section from Clayton NY. Speaking of which, the cool twistin' guitar solo/drum fill part at the end of Mommy is just awesome in that this band was so attuned to itself in this time period. They really did rock well. enough complements... :) >- not his words, but he did say that the "membership" dropped WAY off >after Mirrors came out. The back cover alone would make me think twice heheh. What sticks out in my head about the Schism between Mirrors and what passed before is that the production of the album is much less.... what's the word, "slithery" and stark. By this, I mean that if you listen to the first one, BOC at least tentatively put its musical stake in not simply sounding heavy a la vanilla fudge, Sabbath, but sounding arid.... like they were playing their music in a place/sound that was desolate. the production/songs of the first one reflected that. ON top of it, like the way wind creates cool swirling patterns in kicked up sand, you have the collective jamming on top of the basic riffery of the tunes (the first 5 studio LPs, and fortified image/expectation wise by OYF and SEE's Astronomy especially). but with Mirrors, it was Stripppppped down, man. and Tom Werman's production ethos was IMHO, "Hi. I like to sound as friendly as possible no matter what the song." I am the Storm is a good song, yes. but it didnt sound stormy enough. THe vigil only worked really well on the album because I think Buck likees clean sound, as his production of CotHM attests to. (The version Werman produced of The Cult's "Soldier Blue" available on the Rare Cult Box set (the British "The Cult", sorry to be possibly confusing) is similarly made anemic in comparison to the Bob Rock version). To be fair though, I think what was problematic for Mirrors is that it had to come after the scope of the band's playing and compositional skills had greatly expanded into what Spectres had on it, and having to deal with the question "OK where do we go from here?" >"Boorman the Chauffer" is a great example, IMHO. If they left it in, S.P. probably would have said something like Boorman was Imaginos' brief stint as a limo driver taking some band (The Dave Clark Five?) with cosmic significance to the song cycle to an important point in history, like Altamont -- a sort of "simultaneous temporal maneuvering" between his role in WWII (whatever that was! :) ) and the Transmaniacon MC which still culminates in whatever Astronomy concludes with. Yeah. uh huh. Time to stop drinking Dunkin Donuts Coffee. OD'd on BOC,SFG,tBS and Helen Wheels, Jason From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Tue Jul 3 10:48:18 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:48:18 -0400 Subject: BOC: new(!) lyrics to OD'd on Life itself? Message-ID: Just randomly started to look at the lyrics in the liners for T&M and did it surprise anyone else to read "the power of powers and once luminous spell".. and "Crumpled like grave cloths and hipped to the help and you've OD on life, life itself" I noticed that no source was given for the lyrics given either. I don't ever remember reading these in the BOC Fan Club lyric book, so are these from the original lyric sheets? Can you say cool? jason From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Tue Jul 3 11:01:13 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 11:01:13 -0400 Subject: BOC: extra OD'd lyric update(!) Message-ID: Unless I'm wrong, those wacky Pearlmanisms are what is being said in the nearly inaudible background "chatter" in the chorus each time. yay. That's a mystery that's always been bugging me, too! Back to.... work? what's that? Json From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jul 3 12:28:52 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:28:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton set In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010701021039.009589a0@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: In article <4.2.0.58.20010701021039.009589a0 at pop.eunet.no>, christmu at eunet.no writes >The sound >recording quality doesen't help, but then again, judging from the CDRs it >wasn't excactly Hawkind's peak as a live band. It *really* depends which way you look at it, and what you want from a live band, as opposed to a recording of a live band. I've been seeing HW for longer now than is decent. For me, it was very much a peak experience. Very much up there with the Henge 84 set, and the Lyceum '80 shows. -- Jonny Karma From buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 3 12:44:18 2001 From: buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM (Rus Hall) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 12:44:18 -0400 Subject: HW: Propably Already Been Mentioned, but . . . Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Jul 3 12:54:38 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 11:54:38 -0500 Subject: HW: Propably Already Been Mentioned, but . . . Message-ID: Cool! I did not know this. On "God Says No"? Will have to take another look! I'm going to see Monster Magnet tonight at Summerfest in Milwaukee, WI. http://www.summerfest.com Rock on! Karen Rus Hall wrote: > > I haven't been up on my note reading lately. > > Just picked up the latest Monster Magnet CD. > > Dave Wndorf is wearing a Hawkwind t-shirt under his vest. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jul 3 13:03:56 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 13:03:56 EDT Subject: HW: Propably Already Been Mentioned, but . . . In-Reply-To: <3B41F8CE.D34065C@execpc.com> Message-ID: On 3 Jul 2001, at 11:54, Karen Kusic wrote: > Cool! I did not know this. On "God Says No"? Will have to take > another look! > > I'm going to see Monster Magnet tonight at Summerfest in Milwaukee, > WI. http://www.summerfest.com > Lucky Devil! Post a review [if you remember the show!]... theo From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Jul 3 13:24:21 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 18:24:21 +0100 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: yeah I saw that advert... Laughed my ass off to which my boyfriend replied... "what's funny? Who's that?" Oh why oh why!?!?!??!?!?!!??!?! Stupid boy.... Layla. >>> freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU 07/03/01 09:37am >>> Captain Bl at ck wrote: > >Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. > > > >No joke. Jon wrote: > playing with all sweetness and sensitivity, too. Brilliant advert. > very funny. > -- > Jon > How come you guys get all the good ads? First the Mazda ad, then this.... Bill From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jul 3 13:43:44 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 13:43:44 -0400 Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:06:05 EDT, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >In a message dated 7/3/01 8:18:09 AM, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > ><< Alice wrote: >> Listening to the Queen's song "Headlong" and hear a lot of similarities >> with the HW song Needle Gun. Long ago I wanted to ask is it only me who >> hear that Queen stole music from Hawkwind? > >> >[========= >dunno whether if it's 'only you' but >it aint me babe. > >any number of bands could have done something >as outrageously SIMPLE >as 'needle gun' > >which, as it is, isnt too terribly far from >'kings of speed' ... or any of Hawkwind's numerous other songs that are re-writes of "Silver Machine" ... However, as for a Hawkwind/Queen connection ... producer Roy Thomas Baker, who worked on 'Captain Lockheed' as well as several Queen albums ... (suddenly I'm struck with the horrible thought of trying to create "Bohemian Rhapsody"-style massive harmony vocal overdubs using only Bob Calvert's voice!) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jul 3 14:05:55 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:05:55 EDT Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong Message-ID: In a message dated 7/3/01 1:44:04 PM, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: << . producer Roy Thomas Baker, who worked on 'Captain Lockheed' as well as several Queen albums ... (suddenly I'm struck with the horrible thought of trying to create "Bohemian Rhapsody"-style massive harmony vocal overdubs using only Bob Calvert's voice!) >> ======= twas no hw nicked by queen; twas _chic_ nicked by queen..... although--- r. t. baker _did_ have a hand in "you'd better believe it" and "paradox"...we could consider the vocal sound on the lp version [not the 45], a live version tambien; those 'down down and down' vox =on top= of brock's soloing near the end, for one thing [as if that woulda/coulda happened live] "<>" From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jul 3 15:37:59 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 13:37:59 -0600 Subject: Reading Rock Program 77 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hey Bernhard... a little while back you wondered which "Odd" program I had laying around... it's Reading Rock 77, and is newspaper style m c From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Jul 3 15:36:43 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:36:43 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 6/30/01 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck NOTE: I also recommend you stay tuned for Mizzen's program "Audio Alchemy", which airs every Saturday evening after mine, from 8-11pm PST...if you dare... 6/30 1.Moondance Experiment-- intro/"Tonight We Take a New Direction/Let it Rise You Up" (Fall Awake in Your Dreams Tonight; MmmDEEE Records) 2.Daevid Allen's University of Errors-- "Ocean in the Distance" (E squared x 10 = Tenure/Sophomore Effort; InnerSpace Records) 3.Census of Hallucinations-- "55,000 Airmen (The Third Eye; Stone Premonitions Records) 4.Can-- "Mother Sky" (Cannibalism 1; Mute/Spoon Records) 5.Pressurehed-- "God's House" (Sudden Vertigo; Cleopatra Records) 6.Farflung w/Nik Turner-- "The Day of St. Anthony's Fire" (Transglobal Friends and Relations; Transparency Records) 7.Amon Duul II-- "Green Bubble Raincoated Man" (Wolf City; Repetoirre Records) 8.Pink Floyd-- "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun" (Saucerful of Secrets; EMI/Harvest Records) 9.Lamp of the Universe-- "Give Yourself to Love" (The Cosmic Union; Cranium Records) 10.Dead Flowers-- title-track (Altered State Circus; Delerium Records) 11.Psychic Atters-- "Made in Sheffield" (Mystic Minutes; Twink Records) 12.Saddar Bazaar-- "Neelum Blue" (Conference of the Birds; Delerium) 13.Mr. Quimby's Beard-- "Snotty (the Piercing Tiger)" (Definitive Unsolved Mysteries out-take) 14.Mr. Quimby's Beard-- "Quartermass and the Pit" (Science Fiction Movies Project comp; Black Widow Records) 15.Farflung-- "Those Clouds are Solid" (Myth of Solid Ground; unreleased) 16.Hawkwind-- "Assassins of Allah" (Out and Intake; Flicknife/Griffin Records) 17.Afresco Mantis-- "The Universe Shines Tonight" (The Harris Tweed EP; Freaky Fungi Records) 18.Hawkwind-- "Warrior on the Edge of Time" (Out and Intake) 19.Ektroverde-- "Suru" (Flourescent Tunnelvision comp; Submergence/Mother West Records) 20.Brode Tango-- "Ubu Dueu" (Ubu et la Merdre comp; Musea/Gazul Records) 21.Faust-- "No Harm" (So Far; Collector's Music Records) 22.Zappa/Mothers of Invention-- "Help I'm a Rock" (Freak Out!; Rykodisc Records) 23.The Orb-- "A Huge Ever-Growing Pulsating Brain that Rules from the Centre of the Ultraverse " (The Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld; Island Records) thanks, Chuck From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Jul 3 15:56:29 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 20:56:29 +0100 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: Well, er, ahem, one does have to keep tabs on what the 'proles' are up to, dear boy. Incidently, anybody know what's happened to the Lemsters autobiography? Captain Len Fairclough. > So, Keith, you admit to watching 'Coronation Street' then do you??? > > I presume this is simply to worship the spirits of the one known as > Khenbaaarloooooo, and not because you are an incurable soap fan. > > Neil. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:16 PM > Subject: HW: What The... > > > There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between Coronation > Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like Lawrence > Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically about > his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section playing > on the soundtrack. > > Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. > > No joke. From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Jul 3 16:27:25 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 21:27:25 +0100 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: me thickh - wot 'bina?? filterless cigarettee or what? Neil Ward wrote: > So, Keith, you admit to watching 'Coronation Street' then do you??? > > I presume this is simply to worship the spirits of the one known as > Khenbaaarloooooo, and not because you are an incurable soap fan. > > Neil. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:16 PM > Subject: HW: What The... > > There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between Coronation > Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like Lawrence > Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically about > his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section playing > on the soundtrack. > > Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. > > No joke. From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Tue Jul 3 17:27:20 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:27:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Pete Frame's Hawkwind Family Tree Message-ID: I think this originally came with the first few thousand copies of the PXR5 LP. I scanned it from the 'Never Ending Story of the Psychedelic Warlords' book where it was split onto 2 pages. It has lots of interesting gossipy bits of information. I'll leave the scans up at for a few days. If your browser has trouble reading the file (banding) you shouldn't have any problems downloading it and viewing it in any paint program. Stephan From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Tue Jul 3 17:45:10 2001 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:45:10 -0400 Subject: BOC: new(!) lyrics to OD'd on Life itself? In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F66D6@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, "Scruton, Jason" wrote: >Just randomly started to look at the lyrics in the liners for T&M and did it >surprise anyone else to read >"the power of powers and once luminous spell".. >and >"Crumpled like grave cloths and hipped to the help and you've >OD on life, life itself" Could these be some of the infamous Quad Lines that most of us have never heard? If you listen carefully to the original CD (I don't have the remasters yet *sob*) you'll hear a tinny sound that almost sounds like a vocal. If you had the right kind of turntable, you could hear an extra vocal track on the vinyl. -- Jean Lansford oystrgal at bellsouth.net I can't even remember the last time someone cheated ME out of anything. - Yoshimo Baldur's Gate II From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jul 3 18:25:33 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 23:25:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: High Tide,/Nik Turner Message-ID: cool - the High Tide review's better than mine - although I didn't have the luxury of that much space in the new supplement catalogue out this week, so there ya' go - and for everyone else, plenty on the shelf for everyone - heard the new Turner today - promo just before stock arrives - and it's 23 tracks incl 11 Hawkwind covers and better than Turner's 'Space Ritual' and 'Past Or Future' CD's, excellent quality incl 4 studio cuts and all exclusive versions with assorted line-ups '94-2000 - yer in for a treat!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan Forstner" To: Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 10:21 PM Subject: OFF: High Tide, Tony Hill, Simon House, Pete Pavli, Ade Shaw, Long > > Stephan From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jul 3 19:18:15 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 00:18:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: High Tide, Tony Hill, Simon House, Pete Pavli, Ade Shaw, Long In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20010702212100.006cfb44@pop.pipeline.com> Message-ID: In article <1.5.4.32.20010702212100.006cfb44 at pop.pipeline.com>, Stephan Forstner writes >here's a bit of a >description of them. Great post Stephan! cheers! -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jul 3 19:20:53 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 00:20:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 6/30/01 In-Reply-To: <127.ea7ec3.287378cb@aol.com> Message-ID: In article <127.ea7ec3.287378cb at aol.com>, Chuck Rosenberg writes >thanks, Chuck No man, thank *you*! What content! Is this guy a genius or what? -- Jon, in a grateful mood. :) From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jul 3 12:32:01 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:32:01 +0100 Subject: HW: MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD In-Reply-To: <200107011543.LAA21621@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200107011543.LAA21621 at listserv.spc.edu>, Z E Itgeist writes > >MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD / STRANGE TRIPS NEWS I am so puerile, every time I see this band's name I think MR. BEARDY'S QUIM When will I grow up? -- Jon From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 4 06:53:40 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:53:40 +0100 Subject: Sam Fox CD Message-ID: I gather this is out now. Wasn't there some talk of there being video from the Astoria on it? FoFP From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Jul 4 07:03:49 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:03:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam Fox CD In-Reply-To: <200107041053.LAA06582@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > I gather this is out now. Wasn't there some talk of there being video > from the Astoria on it? According to www.samfox.com/diary.shtml, "The album features a second disc (CD Rom) which contains video footage, interviews and live footage of Sam in concert with Lemmy & Hawkwind." You can also order it from the Fox shop - signed if you want... there's one for the kollektors! :) -- Andy ObMP3: The Suffrajets - "Universal Superstar" www.andygilham.com From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Wed Jul 4 12:12:34 2001 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:12:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: Samples in music list URL Message-ID: Since I've contributed a big stack of these in the past (given my perchance for a bit of industrial music), I thought I'd let y'all know about the online database of dialogue samples used in music, found at http://www.sloth.org/samples My last update included some Hawkwind, Zero Gravity, Ship of Fools etc. This all started in about '92 on alt.music.industrial (back in the days when newsgroups were worthwhile) but it lists all types of music provided there's a valid sample. So if you've heard a song and can't place that dialogue snippet - check it out. There's also a contribution interface should you notice something that isn't listed. Tim From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jul 4 13:28:15 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 13:28:15 -0400 Subject: HW: Sam Fox CD Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:03:49 +0100, Andy Gilham wrote: >> I gather this is out now. Wasn't there some talk of there being video >> from the Astoria on it? Academy, not Astoria, presumably. But you knew that. > >According to www.samfox.com/diary.shtml, "The album features a second disc >(CD Rom) which contains video footage, interviews and live footage of Sam in >concert with Lemmy & Hawkwind." You can also order it from the Fox shop - >signed if you want... there's one for the kollektors! :) Yeah, that will be a real test for the obsessives. But how does it work.. she's onstage for what, 10 minutes of a 4 hour gig, she had no part in writing the songs, but she's able to release this stuff on her CD. Meanwhile the Hawks haven't been able to release a thing, and haven't even been paid for performing as far as we are aware. (Is there any progress on this? Still fancy the idea of a day off to come and support the Hawks in court, if it comes to that). Yet I was under the impression that she just turned up to do the band a favour. Would it be correct to assume that Ms Fox has better legal representation than the band? Is is her releasing video footage somehow preventing Hawkwind releasing anything from the event? Also, rather ironic that she's so keen to stress "LEMMY and Hawkwind" when the Lemster has publicly said she shouldn't have come on to sing (see interview at www.aural-innovations.com). From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Jul 4 14:49:41 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 19:49:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam Fox CD Message-ID: ..........and just in case people start to wonder, CD Services has applied to the Fox camp for copies to sell and are awaiting their decision............ Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gilham" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 12:03 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sam Fox CD > > I gather this is out now. Wasn't there some talk of there being video > > from the Astoria on it? > > According to www.samfox.com/diary.shtml, "The album features a second disc > (CD Rom) which contains video footage, interviews and live footage of Sam in > concert with Lemmy & Hawkwind." You can also order it from the Fox shop - > signed if you want... there's one for the kollektors! :) > > -- Andy > > ObMP3: The Suffrajets - "Universal Superstar" > > www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Jul 4 14:29:30 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 19:29:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam Fox CD In-Reply-To: <003401c104ba$16648880$af11bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: > ..........and just in case people start to wonder, CD Services has applied > to the Fox camp for copies to sell and are awaiting their > decision............ But will you be carrying the autographed copies? :) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jul 4 15:49:08 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 20:49:08 +0100 Subject: HW: MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Jon Browne writes >In article <200107011543.LAA21621 at listserv.spc.edu>, Z E Itgeist > writes >> >>MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD / STRANGE TRIPS NEWS > > >I am so puerile, every time I see this band's name I think >MR. BEARDY'S QUIM But isn't that what the name basically means? I thought Mr Quimby's Beard must be another name for the, ah, "cuckoo's nest", as the old Fairport song has it. -- Nick Medford From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Jul 4 17:01:19 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 22:01:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam Fox CD Message-ID: Yes No Maybe she fancies him!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 6:28 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sam Fox CD > On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:03:49 +0100, Andy Gilham wrote: > > Would it be correct to assume that Ms Fox has better legal representation > than the band? Is is her releasing video footage somehow preventing > Hawkwind releasing anything from the event? > > Also, rather ironic that she's so keen to stress "LEMMY and Hawkwind" when > the Lemster has publicly said she shouldn't have come on to sing (see interview at www.aural-innovations.com). From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Jul 4 17:25:18 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 22:25:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam Fox CD Message-ID: as I said, that's in their hands but in tried and trusted fashion, they seem to be making a meal of saying yes or no........... Will keep you posted, Andy Garibaldi (doing his best just to sell an artist's CD's but why do all these people make it so difficult for us!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gilham" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sam Fox CD > > ..........and just in case people start to wonder, CD Services has applied > > to the Fox camp for copies to sell and are awaiting their > > decision............ > > But will you be carrying the autographed copies? :) > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jul 4 17:10:48 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 22:10:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam Fox CD In-Reply-To: <001c01c104cf$d3847820$cc11bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: In message <001c01c104cf$d3847820$cc11bc3e at s8d3c4>, ANDREW GARIBALDI writes >Andy Garibaldi (doing his best just to sell an artist's CD's I thought we were talking about Sam Fox? "Ars-tits" maybe? -- Nick Medford From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Jul 4 17:20:57 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:20:57 -0400 Subject: HW: Sam Fox CD In-Reply-To: <000f01c104cf$872d0320$cc11bc3e@s8d3c4>; from andygee@DIAL.PIPEX.COM on Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 10:01:19PM +0100 Message-ID: It certainly seemed so on the night... On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 10:01:19PM +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > Maybe she fancies him!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nick Medford" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 6:28 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Sam Fox CD > > > Also, rather ironic that she's so keen to stress "LEMMY and Hawkwind" when > > the Lemster has publicly said she shouldn't have come on to sing -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jul 4 17:31:45 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 22:31:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam Fox CD In-Reply-To: <20010704172056.C9877@telepres.com> Message-ID: In message <20010704172056.C9877 at telepres.com>, Eric Siegerman writes >It certainly seemed so on the night... It did look a bit that way, but I suspect the reason Lemmy appears so prominently in the press release is simply that he's a big name, and someone is hoping they can shift a few more CDs by dropping that name. Ever cynical, -- Nick Medford From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Jul 4 18:34:41 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 18:34:41 EDT Subject: HW: Propably Already Been Mentioned, but . . . Message-ID: I saw Monster Magnet last month in NYC at a small club (industry show). Great show! This tour should not to be missed. At the show i saw, Wyndorff, seeing Hawkwind shirts in the crowd, did a real rousing version of Brainstorm halfway through the set. And no, I did not break DWs balls about certain 'Similarities' (for once). Regards, Bill Stewart From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Jul 4 18:37:52 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 18:37:52 EDT Subject: HW OFF:Monster Magnet Message-ID: Monster Magnet will be appearing at Roseland, NYC, July 11 in support of The Cult. Doors: 8PM Usual suspects will be there. Wear Hawkwind shirt and get up front. Bill From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Jul 4 19:35:59 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 18:35:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet delivers a fist-pounding set Message-ID: It was a great show! Flaming guitar and total groove. Perfect setting by Milwaukee's lakefront. When Dave sung the lyrics about "splitting the sky" (can't remember which song) there was a spectacular show of heat lightning for a backdrop. He took a small tumble during the show but seemed to be OK. No Brainstorm in this set but there was Bummer of course and Dinosaur Vacuum. Local paper review here: http://www.jsonline.com/onwisconsin/music/jul01/side04s1070401.asp Contest info here: http://www.monstermagnet.net/html/news.asp Rawk on! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jul 4 23:00:25 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 12:30:25 +0930 Subject: November the 8th Message-ID: Hi Good Hawkpeople Thank you Arin for the infor on the 8th November I have Tickets booked for the 14th Where can I buy tickets for the 8th My airfare is booked and paid for and I will be arriving 5th November Looking for a groovy job now don't wanna come back Peace Michael B From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Thu Jul 5 08:55:31 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 08:55:31 -0400 Subject: HW Newcastle Message-ID: Just a quick note to say it's all change again in the Quimby's Beard camp! They are now infact supporting Hawkwind at the Opera House gig in Newcastle. Sorry for the confusion and hope that all is going extremely well. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jul 5 10:45:17 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 10:45:17 EDT Subject: BOC: Litigation? In-Reply-To: <3B38C49B.F1BC5C82@mitre.org> Message-ID: Listening to the AOF remaster... Can Al B. sue Night Ranger for plagiarism? Sister Christian = Debbie Denise! theo From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Jul 5 15:59:23 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 15:59:23 EDT Subject: HW: Royal Festival Hall. Message-ID: In a message dated 6/29/2001 4:38:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, IainFerguson at AOL.COM writes: << Just contacted theRoyal festival hall. >> What city? Bill From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Jul 5 16:11:16 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 21:11:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Royal Festival Hall. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > << Just contacted theRoyal festival hall. >> > > What city? London, England -- Andy www.andygilham.com From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jul 5 20:17:44 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 01:17:44 +0100 Subject: HW: MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: lol nick!! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Nick Medford Sent: 04 July 2001 20:49 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD In message , Jon Browne writes >In article <200107011543.LAA21621 at listserv.spc.edu>, Z E Itgeist > writes >> >>MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD / STRANGE TRIPS NEWS > > >I am so puerile, every time I see this band's name I think >MR. BEARDY'S QUIM But isn't that what the name basically means? I thought Mr Quimby's Beard must be another name for the, ah, "cuckoo's nest", as the old Fairport song has it. -- Nick Medford From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Thu Jul 5 20:26:45 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 20:26:45 -0400 Subject: special private performance Message-ID: Tomorrow July 6th, SLOTERDIJK will perform a private FREE concert. Showtime is 9PM on the grounds of MIke Burro's farm. People should not arrive any earlier than 7:30 PM There will be campsites and or RV parking on the property, for those who wish to stay the night. (NO FIRES) Quiet hours must be acknowledged between 12-8AM, and everyone must be out by 12PM on saturday. Bring lawn chairs, insect repellent, beer etc.. To obtain directions, respond ASAP to: sloterdijk at webtv.net or sloterdijk at msn.com cheers, Sloterdijk www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Fri Jul 6 00:37:16 2001 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 21:37:16 -0700 Subject: HW: MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have to say, no matter what it refers to (hehe), I am quite impressed with what I heard in the free downloads. So much so, that I have thinking on ordering a CD or two. At 01:17 AM 7/6/01 +0100, you wrote: >lol nick!! > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of Nick Medford >Sent: 04 July 2001 20:49 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD > > >In message , Jon Browne > writes >>In article <200107011543.LAA21621 at listserv.spc.edu>, Z E Itgeist >> writes >>> >>>MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD / STRANGE TRIPS NEWS >> >> >>I am so puerile, every time I see this band's name I think >>MR. BEARDY'S QUIM > >But isn't that what the name basically means? I thought Mr Quimby's Beard >must be another name for the, ah, "cuckoo's nest", as the old Fairport song >has it. >-- >Nick Medford From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Thu Jul 5 22:18:53 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 22:18:53 -0400 Subject: BOC: Lots More o' Stuff Message-ID: I opined... >> Although I can somewhat understand it, I have to put up a (small) >> protest to the slagging Mirrors occasionally takes here. Sure, it's >> got its share of dogs (Dr. Music) and somewhat boring stuff (Moon >> Crazy, Lonely Teardrops) ... and chuck replied... > Yikes! 3 reasons why I like Mirrors! I can remember it well...when > Mirrors first came out, I loved it and played it as much as I am Curse > of the Hidden Mirror now. To me, the weakest tracks on Mirrors were > In Thee and Mirrors. I put them together... So I like the tracks you think are weak, and you like the ones I think are nothing special - together that's 1 vote for Mirrors! while John sighed... >Sigh - anytime Mirrors, Revolution By Night, or (esp.) Club Ninja gets >degraded in any way (even if IN JEST!!!), someone always rushes to its >defense. There IS good stuff on the album - even the tracks you >mentioned not liking (Dr. Music, Moon Crazy, Lonely Teardrops) are >enjoyable to me - but as a whole the album has its problems. Bolle has >said that Mirrors nearly singlehandedly destroyed the fanclub in the 70s >- not his words, but he did say that the "membership" dropped WAY off >after Mirrors came out. I certainly understand your opinion, and I would guess its probably shared by the majority, but I'll expand a little on my feelings here so you know where I'm coming from - first I have to explain that I was introduced to BOC in the early 80's by a friend who had all their previous material, and though I did get my first listens to them more or less in order, the effect on me would definitely be different from that on someone who had been waiting each year for the newest release as they came out. I've previously bored you with my distinction between albums and collections of songs - when I listened to the 1st 3 releases I pretty much felt them to be a unit - not only did I consider each one to be an album but all 3 worked together as a sort of meta-album. Then with Agents, Spectres, and Mirrors, it seemed to me that lots of different ideas from different people were being tossed in as discrete songs with different approaches and no real attempt made to create a unified whole. (The liner notes for the re-release of AoF just out actually seem to agree with me here and indicate this was due to the advent of home-recording equipment allowing everyone to more fully form their ideas in a solo setting before presenting it to the band - a pretty interesting read, and also a nice explanation for what I was hearing). This effect did become more pronounced with each succeeding album, but I was suddenly thinking that, hey, AoF, Spectres, and Mirrors actually sort of hung together as a meta-album in their own right even if none of them could individually be called an album - the odd mix of musical styles, subjects, and lyrical approaches is carried along over all 3 releases. I find it hard to imagine someone liking only 1 of the 1st 3 albums, or dislking 1 and not the others, and I had a similar feeling about these 3 - how could you like Spectres but not Mirrors? Or vice-versa? It would come down to whether you liked specific songs - and since the songs were so varied it would end up being a sort of tote-board deal where the total number of likes/take-it-or-leave-its/dislikes would end up tipping your opinion of the whole release either somewhat positive or somewhat negative. If the fan-club membership suddenly dropped after Mirrors, I would offer as a possible explanation that it was not because Mirrors was suddenly a whole lot worse than the previous releases, but that people who had been holding on and hoping for a return to the 'good old days' suddenly decided that 'nope, they werent coming back, this proves it, lets get out' - the overall count for the last 2 or 3 releases had begun to tip too much negative. Jason adds here... >What sticks out in my head about the Schism between Mirrors and what >passed before is that the production of the album is much less.... >what's the word, "slithery" and stark...... (the first 5 studio LPs, >and fortified image/expectation wise by OYF and SEE's Astronomy >especially). but with Mirrors, it was Stripppppped down, man...... >To be fair though, I think what was problematic for Mirrors is that it had >to come after the scope of the band's playing and compositional skills had >greatly expanded into what Spectres had on it, and having to deal with the >question "OK where do we go from here?" I agree with what you say but think the real break in terms of both production/sound and songwriting/presentation was at Agents, and I hear both Spectres and Mirrors as intensifications of what started there. If you look at it this way, then for some, Mirrors may have been the stalk(forrest) of dried grass that irreparably damaged the dromedary's hump. and I cover my rear... I can certainly see the differing points of view, and don't forget to stick a big IMHO in front of everything I said above. And if you choose to degrade Club Ninja I won't be rushing to its defense. Stephan From laura.waesche at CEXP.COM Thu Jul 5 22:23:41 2001 From: laura.waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 21:23:41 -0500 Subject: HW:Mr.Quimby's Beard Message-ID: Oh, they are wonderful. I just got the Definitive Unsolved Mysteries of.....and it's great! Go buy it! From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Jul 6 03:19:12 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 08:19:12 +0100 Subject: BOC: Lots More o' Stuff In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20010706021853.00716154@pop.pipeline.com> Message-ID: > If > the fan-club > membership suddenly dropped after Mirrors, I would offer as a possible > explanation that it was not because Mirrors was suddenly a whole lot worse > than the previous releases, but that people who had been holding on and > hoping for a return to the 'good old days' suddenly decided that > 'nope, they > werent coming back, this proves it, lets get out' - the overall count for > the last 2 or 3 releases had begun to tip too much negative. Well, since it was my flip comment that kicked off this whole MIRRORS debate: I got into BOC on the back of "Reaper," so did a lot of my friends, and we devoured all the back catalogue, got SOME ENCHANTED EVENING the day it came out and played it to death. If there was a unifying feel between AGENTS and SPECTRES it was that they were a lot slicker, and both had one or two dodgy tracks whereas the first three albums were pure excellence, but they were still terrific albums. Then MIRRORS came out, and just about everybody thought it was rubbish. Sure, people would say, "The Vigil" is OK, or "Great Sun Jester," but that was about it. They still played four nights at Hammersmith, but on the strength of earlier material and live reputation. Me, I was still saying, loyally, BOC can do no wrong, but I knew in my heart they'd blown it; even following it up with two excellent albums didn't restore their reputation. I would have to say that the general opinion was that MIRRORS really was "suddenly a whole lot worse." The contemporary interview where one of the band said they wanted to make their own RUMOURS pretty sums up the whole "sell-out" feel of the record. These days I like the two Lanier tracks the best. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jul 6 07:22:12 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 07:22:12 EDT Subject: BOC: Lots More o' Stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 6 Jul 2001, at 8:19, Andy Gilham wrote: > > If > > the fan-club > > membership suddenly dropped after Mirrors, I would offer as a > > possible explanation that it was not because Mirrors was suddenly a > > whole lot worse than the previous releases, but that people who had > > been holding on and hoping for a return to the 'good old days' > > suddenly decided that 'nope, they werent coming back, this proves > > it, lets get out' - the overall count for the last 2 or 3 releases > > had begun to tip too much negative. > I would offer another scenario: a lot of the 'old' fans were simply getting older. Sad to say, a lot of folks quit listening to music on a serious level after they get out of college, get married, get a 'real' job etc...But Mirrors didn't help the cause either! > Well, since it was my flip comment that kicked off this whole MIRRORS > debate: I got into BOC on the back of "Reaper," so did a lot of my > friends, and we devoured all the back catalogue, got SOME ENCHANTED > EVENING the day it came out and played it to death. If there was a > unifying feel between AGENTS and SPECTRES it was that they were a lot > slicker, and both had one or two dodgy tracks whereas the first three > albums were pure excellence, but they were still terrific albums. > I've been listening to the AOF remaster, and thinking what a truly great album it is...When it came out, my friends and I were pretty well stunned when True Confessions drifted through the speakers the first time! Debbie Denise wasn't exactly what we were looking for either. But the rest of the stuff! Great lyrics, mysterious sound-- classic B?C stuff. Any album that kicks off with a song entitled This Ain't the Summer of Love has to be a classic... > Then MIRRORS came out, and just about everybody thought it wa > rubbish. Sure, people would say, "The Vigil" is OK, or "Great Sun > Jester," but that was about it. They still played four nights at > Hammersmith, but on the strength of earlier material and live > reputation. Me, I was still saying, loyally, BOC can do no wrong, but > I knew in my heart they'd blown it; even following it up with two > excellent albums didn't restore their reputation. > Wll, I agree with the sentiment that they blew it with Mirrors, but I forgave them when CE came out... theo From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri Jul 6 08:39:17 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 08:39:17 -0400 Subject: BOC: Lots More o' Stuff Message-ID: > Listening to the AOF remaster... > > Can Al B. sue Night Ranger for plagiarism? Sister Christian = > Debbie Denise! I assume you're joking - they may have a similar vibe, but musically sound quite different to my ears. > while John sighed... > > >Sigh - anytime Mirrors, Revolution By Night, or (esp.) Club Ninja gets > >degraded in any way (even if IN JEST!!!), someone always rushes to its > >defense. There IS good stuff on the album - even the tracks you > >mentioned not liking (Dr. Music, Moon Crazy, Lonely Teardrops) are > >enjoyable to me - but as a whole the album has its problems. Bolle has > >said that Mirrors nearly singlehandedly destroyed the fanclub in the 70s > >- not his words, but he did say that the "membership" dropped WAY off > >after Mirrors came out. > > I certainly understand your opinion, and I would guess its probably shared > by the majority, but I'll expand a little on my feelings here so you know > where I'm coming from - NO!!!!! ;-) You have just proven my point about people rushing to defend a particular BOC album. Hey - some people LIKE Mirrors; and some people LIKE Club Ninja. It's O.K. - REALLY it is. In fact, I enjoy both those albums too (in moderation). But I always find it humorous that if someone makes a disparaging remark about them, somone feels the need to defend it, and explain their feelings. Feel free if it makes you feel better, but it is not necessary. The album is what it is - some fans really dislike it, some fans think it's great, and most probably will all agree that it has a few good tracks but is overall not on the same level as Secret Treaties (then again, what is?). > in the early 80's by a friend who had all their previous material, and > though I did get my first listens to them more or less in order, the effect > on me would definitely be different from that on someone who had been > waiting each year for the newest release as they came out. Yes, and this is the rub with Mirrors (which Andy also points out) - if you had been a fan in the early 1970's and followed the band up through Some Enchanted Evening (when they were a powerhouse on the road), then Mirrors appears as a dissappointment for many. If you got into the band (as I did) in the early 80's, then looking backward Mirrors may not look so bad (but maybe Club Ninja still does?). To give some "perspective", I'm going to lift a few direct quotes from "Morning Final" - not the song, but the BOC Fanclub newsletter: "There was a lot of interest in the band because of that and I had about 200 fans in the club as a result. ... I eventually had as many as 350 fans but it went downhill from there, and in 1979 when Mirrors came out I had only 15 fans left who wanted to stay on for another year." MF 01 "I think the biggest surprise may come in the Favorite Album Department?not the number one slot, but the runners up: By far the pick albums are #1: Secret Treaties, #2: Imaginos, and #3: Cult?saurus Erectus! This is not at all what I would have expected, but it shows you all have very good taste, by choosing their finest albums!! Also ranking high were #4: Spectres and #5: Fire Of Unknown Origin. Right behind these were, respectively, Agents, Blue ?yster Cult, Tyranny and Mutation and On Your Feet or On Your Knees. All albums received at least a couple votes as a Favorite album with the exception of ETL which received no votes. Least favorite albums were Club Ninja with the most votes, followed by Mirrors" MF 04 "To date, these rehearsals and recordings were the bands most thorough work for any album before or after, with almost 3 months on pre-production alone. And for all that work came the album that most fans put at the bottom of their ?fave album? list; which Eric, in England?s New Musical Express paper, alluded might make good frisbees; and to this day is sometimes referred to as ?Errors.?" MF 08 "After the disappointing Tom Werman-produced Mirrors album, The Cult were looking for something to get themselves back on track again." MF 10 The next quote actually pertains to the recording of Spectres, but I think the perspective translates nicely to Mirrors as well... "In March of 1977, as the Agents Of Fortune 250 date tour ended and the guys got some time off from the road, it was time to start preparing new material for the next album. Lots of decisions had to be made: which direction to follow and what kind of concept to go with on this follow-up to Agents. They had to adjust to a new way of life in the shadow of chart success, and the demand to become hit makers. There were, for the first time, commercial pressures to at least match the success of Agents, and since the hit of ?The Reaper,? they all saw the possibilities of having radio hits. Although in those days they were almost guaranteed a big seller, they had moved up the ladder of commercial success, and almost subconsciously they had a different directional approach to their playing, and the necessity to become more easily accessible is heard in their playing. The clash between Punk and Disco distorted guidelines of Rock & Roll that year ..." MF 11 By the way, all this great info from Morning Final can be YOURS by going to www.bocfanclub.com - Melne has put all the issues of MF in PDF format for download. > I listened to the 1st 3 releases I pretty much felt them to be a unit - not > only did I consider each one to be an album but all 3 worked together as a > sort of meta-album. Most fans, and even the band, would agree with that assessment. > Then with Agents, Spectres, and Mirrors, it seemed to me > that lots of different ideas from different people were being tossed in as > discrete songs with different approaches and no real attempt made to create > a unified whole. (The liner notes for the re-release of AoF just out > actually seem to agree with me here and indicate this was due to the advent > of home-recording equipment allowing everyone to more fully form their ideas > in a solo setting before presenting it to the band - a pretty interesting > read, and also a nice explanation for what I was hearing). Exactly. The band was no longer writing as much as a unit, but working on demos at home so there is much more individual efforts, which yielded more diversity. Also, after "Reaper", the band was more conscious of trying to write a radio "hit". > I would offer as a possible > explanation that it was not because Mirrors was suddenly a whole lot worse > than the previous releases, but that people who had been holding on and > hoping for a return to the 'good old days' suddenly decided that 'nope, they > werent coming back, this proves it, lets get out' - the overall count for > the last 2 or 3 releases had begun to tip too much negative. Probably partly true. But "Some Enchanted Evening" broke up the space between "Spectres" and "Mirrors", so I think that contributed to the more sudden drop-off a the time of "Mirrors". Then again, if you were in high school in 1972-1974, by the time "Mirrors" was coming out, you may have been getting out of college and persuing other interests, so that may have been a factor too... Still, looking BACK in time, I can find enjoyment from the album - but can see how a fan "growing up" on BOC would have had issues with Mirrors. John From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Fri Jul 6 09:06:20 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 09:06:20 -0400 Subject: Eric Bloom signature guitar Message-ID: http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2001/Eric-Bloom-New-Look.html John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Fri Jul 6 09:34:16 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 09:34:16 -0400 Subject: BOC: Lots More o' Stuff Message-ID: John Quoted (now I'll have to get a PDF viewer. thanks for the info on Morning Final!): >"To date, these rehearsals and recordings were the bands most thorough >work for any album before or after, with almost 3 months on >pre-production alone. And for all that work came the album that most fans put >at the bottom of their 'fave album' list; which Eric, in England's New >Musical Express paper, alluded might make good frisbees; >and to this day is sometimes referred to as "Errors."" MF 08 Wow. that's interesting to know. It shows that Werman just wasn't the right producer for the task. Fortunately for BOC, the live performances always pull the band out of the fire... Just listen to their version of "The Vigil" thats been in setlists these last few years-- its much more heavy than the studio track. They really needed someone who was able to do something with the material presented. What artists did Werman produce for? I'd wager money (if i had any) that they were AOR through and through -- sounding clean,pristine and devoid of anything that might be remotely enjoyable (like Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours" sound, which was referred to before on this thread. Makes you wish that people remember Fleetwood Mac for their Blues band/Peter Green formation moreso than the later "stuff" (to put it nicely)). >> I listened to the 1st 3 releases I pretty much felt them to >be a unit - not only did I consider each one to be an album but all 3 worked >together as a sort of meta-album. >Most fans, and even the band, would agree with that assessment. The liner notes of the remastered ST reflect that. Would be curious to hear what pearlman or Krugman have to say about the rerelease of the catalog these days. Speaking of units, any word anywhere on when the next batch of remasters will be set free from their prisons? and if there is, what can we look forward to extratrackwise? (I really hate not having internet access from work. then again, It's nice to be productive once in a (long) while.) >Exactly. The band was no longer writing as much as a unit, but working >on demos at home so there is much more individual efforts, >which yielded >more diversity. Also, after "Reaper", the band was more conscious of >trying to write a radio "hit". Reaper's demo has a more Mideastern tinge to it with the demo, due to the guitar(whose tone reminds me of Jeff Beck's in the Yardbirds' "Shapes of Things" (esp. the guitar solo break)) soloing at the intro and book percussion sound. If AoF didnt convince you of the diversification, the bonus tracks on AoF should do it: Albert's FoUO is quite texturally different than the first 3 (with maybe the exception of the sound of Redeemed; it also blends nicely bridgewise to "Death Valley Nights" (i think Brian said this to me once); Sally has a much "funkier"/James Brown-ish allusion than what we'd be used to from the band, esp. in the "scratches on your knees..." verse sections and the "morning sun was rising", "Scratches on your knees..." and so forth. But then again, look at how ST ended -- Astronomy is a very non- super heavy monster metal riff song in the studio at least. Live is a different matter cuz of the extended, heavier Dharma solo. It may have parts that are like that(astronomy, a star, and the Hey! sections), but the main verse music is very laid back and... different than the firestorm of "Flaming Telepaths" and "Dominance", or the extra tracks for that matter. The 4 tracks accelerated that direction of the group maybe. >Probably partly true. But "Some Enchanted Evening" broke up the space >between "Spectres" and "Mirrors", so I think that contributed to the >more sudden drop-off a the time of "Mirrors". I wonder: did the inclusion of two cover songs on "SEE" probably throw some for a loop as well? I would not have expected (had I been more than a few years older than 3 then) a band with 5 studio albums under their belt, coming off their biggest 2 albums to date, to throw in someone else's material, no matter how cool their version of Kick out the Jams is. Then again, a live version of "Celestial the Queen" (if it was ever done live) probably would have resulted in furrowed eyebrows. >Then again, if you were in high school in 1972-1974, by the time >"Mirrors" was coming out, you may have been getting out of college and >persuing other interests, so that may have been a factor too... Wait a minute, slow down a second, John. There's more to life than BOC??? hypothetical answer: "Yes, Jason. The Brain Surgeons." Jason replies," Whew! You had me worried for a minute!" The world's my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum, Jason From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Jul 6 11:17:47 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 23:17:47 +0800 Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong Message-ID: > In a message dated 7/3/01 8:18:09 AM, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > > << Alice wrote: > > Listening to the Queen's song "Headlong" and hear a lot of similarities with > > the HW song Needle Gun. Long ago I wanted to ask is it only me who hear that > > Queen stole music from Hawkwind? > >> > [========= > dunno whether if it's 'only you' > but > it aint me babe. > > i would say > no, Queen didnt steal from hawkwind. > > any number of bands could have done something > as outrageously SIMPLE > as 'needle gun' > > which, as it is, isnt too terribly far from > 'kings of speed' Which is also similar to 99% of Status Quo's material. From StevenTice at AOL.COM Fri Jul 6 12:45:59 2001 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 12:45:59 EDT Subject: BOC: Lots More o' Stuff Message-ID: In a message dated 07/06/2001 9:34:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US writes: > Wow. that's interesting to know. It shows that Werman just wasn't the right > producer for the task. Fortunately for BOC, the live performances always > pull the band out of the fire... Just listen to their version of "The Vigil" > thats been in setlists these last few years-- its much more heavy than the > studio track. They really needed someone who was able to do something with > the material presented. What artists did Werman produce for? I'd wager > money (if i had any) that they were AOR through and through -- sounding > clean,pristine and devoid of anything that might be remotely enjoyable (like > Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours" sound, which was referred to before on this > thread. Makes you wish that people remember Fleetwood Mac for their Blues > band/Peter Green formation moreso than the later "stuff" (to put it > nicely)). > > In a letter accompanying a tape he made for me, Albert Bouchard noted that the early version of "In Thee" he included was "pre-Werman." It definitely sounds a bit more raw and honest. I wonder if the offhand comment indicates that Albert was not particularly fond of Werman's work... > The world's my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum, > Jason > Nice to see a fellow King Crimson fan here. :-) Steven Tice Calliope Comics 519 Valentine Hill Road Bellefonte, PA 16823 814-355-9830 Musings Online: www.geocities.com/calliopecomics/index.html From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jul 6 14:06:29 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 19:06:29 +0100 Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong Message-ID: .............or AC/DC, one of the few bands on the planet whose tribute albums by other artists are actually better than the real thing!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Duffy" To: Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 4:17 PM Subject: Re: HW: needle gun & headlong > > In a message dated 7/3/01 8:18:09 AM, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > > > > << Alice wrote: > > > Listening to the Queen's song "Headlong" and hear a lot of similarities > with > > > the HW song Needle Gun. Long ago I wanted to ask is it only me who hear > that > > > Queen stole music from Hawkwind? > > >> > > [========= > > dunno whether if it's 'only you' > > but > > it aint me babe. > > > > i would say > > no, Queen didnt steal from hawkwind. > > > > any number of bands could have done something > > as outrageously SIMPLE > > as 'needle gun' > > > > which, as it is, isnt too terribly far from > > 'kings of speed' > > Which is also similar to 99% of Status Quo's material. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jul 6 13:57:01 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 13:57:01 EDT Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong In-Reply-To: <008801c10646$61e29080$ee11bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On 6 Jul 2001, at 19:06, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > .............or AC/DC, one of the few bands on the planet whose > tribute albums by other artists are actually better than the real > thing!!! Andy Garibaldi Well, that is hardly a Herculean achievement! theo From StevenTice at AOL.COM Fri Jul 6 17:16:11 2001 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 17:16:11 EDT Subject: Mystery song Message-ID: Hi, folks. I have a little mystery I'm hoping someone can solve. :-) The other day the power went out and messed up my stereo such that the radio came on when I turned the stereo on. Before I switched it, I became intrigued by the song that was playing. It sounded like fairly contemporary music, but it was a more complex arrangement than I would expect from most current bands, including a fun section with alternating measures in 5 and 7. I jotted a couple of lyric fragments down in hopes that someone would know the band responsible: "any sense of compassion" and "find out the pieces fit." Can anybody help me solve this mystery? Steven Tice Calliope Comics 519 Valentine Hill Road Bellefonte, PA 16823 814-355-9830 Musings Online: www.geocities.com/calliopecomics/index.html From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Jul 6 17:25:50 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 22:25:50 +0100 Subject: Mystery song In-Reply-To: <110.1f66bf1.2877849b@aol.com> Message-ID: I put "any sense of compassion" into www.google.com and this came out top: http://cityguide.jconline.com/fe/stories0531/200105313go_arts991330739.shtml "Tool's 'Lateralus' offers emotional odyssey..." -- Andy ObCD: The New Christs - WOE BETIDE www.andygilham.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 6 16:23:47 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 16:23:47 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: A-I Radio Spam Message-ID: Hi Folks... Here's the latest bit o' spam fo' ya's. I see a Pyramidian cut here...how is that anyway? Sorta off-topic query...did anyone else see A.I. yet, since we're on the topic of AI here? :) I thought it was bizarre and hard-to-sit-through and downright laughable at times....and then since it builds up to a climax about 60% of the way through, and then trails off so slowly and drawn out, it loses half the audience and almost me too. But then, it's such an intriguing concept what Aldiss/Kubrick presents that I found it fabulously worthwhile. It's more fun after it's over than when you're watching it. The three people I went with hated it immensely, but then they're shallow, materialistic people, so... :) Grakkl (FAA) ObCDinthemailtoday: Paul Chain - Sign from Space (Vinyl Magic/Beard of Stars) - how do the others compare? P.S. What is Floralia Vol. 3 that has that Korai Orom track? Is that a comp. or a brand new album? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ http://Aural-Innovations.com Aural Innovations Radio has just uploaded two new shows in streaming RealAudio. (You can also download them if you prefer.) Aural Innovations is an online web-zine covering all forms of spacerock, psychedelia, electronica, and more eclectic forms of jazz and progressive rock. Our web site is LOADED with reviews, interviews, and articles. Announcement (July 6, 2001): Hot on the heels of the Kozmik Ken Experience joining Aural Innovations Radio, we are thrilled to welcome Alchemical Radio, who will also be familiar to fans of Supanova Radio. For those of you who have not heard Alchemical Radio, it?s run by our good friends at the Stone Premonitions label. Also, those of you who tried to listen to last month?s shows in the first two days after they went live may have experienced problems due to issues with my ISP. These were resolved fairly quickly so come on back! The water?s warm and friendly! News: Strange Trips is firming up their schedule for the October/November USA tour for Mr Quimby?s Beard and Harvey Bainbridge. Keep your eyes peeled to http://www.strange-trips.com for the latest information. Anyone who thinks they can host one of these shows should contact Jim Lascko at jmfinity at strange-trips.com. An Atlanta date would be wonderful as they are already scheduled to be in Florida. Here are the playlists for the new radio shows: Alchemical Radio - Part 8 Scapeland Wish - "Brave New World" Ozric Tentacles - "Pyramidian" Saturnia - "Still Life" Punishment Of Luxury - "Alien Contact" Cheese - "Everybody's Gone" Rick Ray - "Distorted Faces (Part 2) Daevid Allen's University Of Errors - "If You Are Changing" Tidal Flood - "7 Wave" Pineapple Thief - "Whatever You Do" Tidal Flood - "Tidal Hew" Aural Innovations Radio (Show #29) Korai ?r?m - untitled (from Floralia Vol 3) Krypt?sthesie - ?Tetano? (from No Age) Ektroverde - ?Orange? (from Integral) Spirits Burning - ?Snakebite Serum? (from New Worlds By Design) Or?nj Climax - ?Offering? (from Fluorescent Tunnelvision) Tubilah Dog - ?O.W.V.? (from In Search Of Plaice) Hawkwind - ?The War I Survived? (from The Xenon Codex) Hawkwind - ?Tides/Heads? (from The Xenon Codex) Defender - untitled (from Live at The Empty Bottle) Trial Balloon - ?Deo Vindice? (from Mp3.com site) Demolition Squad - ?Get On Down? (from Hit It) Inner City Unit - ?Cars Eat With Auto Face? (from Judge Trev: Revolution And Rebellion) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. http://Aural-Innovations.com From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Fri Jul 6 17:42:11 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 17:42:11 -0400 Subject: OFF: The Warp Message-ID: Hi, I was curious as to whether any HW fans on this list have read 'The Warp' by Neil Oram. It consists of 3 books, 'A Storm's Howling through Tiflis', 'Lemmings on the Edge' and 'The Balustrade Paradox'. Ken Campbell staged the play that apparently holds the Guiness record for the longest play (24 hours). It seems like the kind of thing that at least one or two HW fans might have read. Regards, Alastair. From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 6 17:56:54 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 17:56:54 EDT Subject: Eric Bloom signature guitar Message-ID: In a message dated 7/6/01 8:09:09 AM US Eastern Standard Time, mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU writes: > http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2001/Eric-Bloom-New-Look.html > > Man, that axe is too cool! Now I really want one!! Joe From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Jul 6 18:17:57 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 18:17:57 -0400 Subject: BOC: Lots More o' Stuff Message-ID: Interesting,though i read somewhere that the band hated OYFoOYK as a live albun and thought ETL was much better... heathcliff John A. Swartz wrote: > > > Listening to the AOF remaster... > > > > Can Al B. sue Night Ranger for plagiarism? Sister Christian = > > Debbie Denise! > > I assume you're joking - they may have a similar vibe, but musically > sound quite different to my ears. > > > > > while John sighed... > > > > >Sigh - anytime Mirrors, Revolution By Night, or (esp.) Club Ninja gets > > >degraded in any way (even if IN JEST!!!), someone always rushes to its > > >defense. There IS good stuff on the album - even the tracks you > > >mentioned not liking (Dr. Music, Moon Crazy, Lonely Teardrops) are > > >enjoyable to me - but as a whole the album has its problems. Bolle has > > >said that Mirrors nearly singlehandedly destroyed the fanclub in the 70s > > >- not his words, but he did say that the "membership" dropped WAY off > > >after Mirrors came out. > > > > I certainly understand your opinion, and I would guess its probably shared > > by the majority, but I'll expand a little on my feelings here so you know > > where I'm coming from - > > NO!!!!! ;-) > > You have just proven my point about people rushing to defend a > particular BOC album. Hey - some people LIKE Mirrors; and some people > LIKE Club Ninja. It's O.K. - REALLY it is. In fact, I enjoy both those > albums too (in moderation). But I always find it humorous that if > someone makes a disparaging remark about them, somone feels the need to > defend it, and explain their feelings. Feel free if it makes you feel > better, but it is not necessary. The album is what it is - some fans > really dislike it, some fans think it's great, and most probably will > all agree that it has a few good tracks but is overall not on the same > level as Secret Treaties (then again, what is?). > > > > in the early 80's by a friend who had all their previous material, and > > though I did get my first listens to them more or less in order, the effect > > on me would definitely be different from that on someone who had been > > waiting each year for the newest release as they came out. > > Yes, and this is the rub with Mirrors (which Andy also points out) - if > you had been a fan in the early 1970's and followed the band up through > Some Enchanted Evening (when they were a powerhouse on the road), then > Mirrors appears as a dissappointment for many. If you got into the band > (as I did) in the early 80's, then looking backward Mirrors may not look > so bad (but maybe Club Ninja still does?). > > To give some "perspective", I'm going to lift a few direct quotes from > "Morning Final" - not the song, but the BOC Fanclub newsletter: > > "There was a lot of interest in the band because of that and I > had about 200 fans in the club as a result. ... I eventually had as > many as 350 fans but it went downhill from there, and in 1979 > when Mirrors came out I had only 15 fans left who wanted to stay > on for another year." MF 01 > > "I think the biggest surprise may come in the Favorite Album Department?not > the number one slot, but the runners up: By far the pick albums are #1: Secret > Treaties, #2: Imaginos, and #3: Cult?saurus Erectus! This is not at all > what I would > have expected, but it shows you all have very good taste, by choosing > their finest > albums!! Also ranking high were #4: Spectres and #5: Fire Of Unknown Origin. > Right behind these were, respectively, Agents, Blue ?yster Cult, Tyranny > and Mutation > and On Your Feet or On Your Knees. All albums received at least a couple > votes as a Favorite album with the exception of ETL which received no votes. > Least favorite albums were Club Ninja with the most votes, followed by > Mirrors" MF 04 > > "To date, these rehearsals and recordings were the bands most thorough > work for any album before or after, with almost 3 months on pre-production > alone. And for all that work came the album that most fans put > at the bottom of their ?fave album? list; which Eric, in England?s New > Musical Express paper, alluded might make good frisbees; > and to this day is sometimes referred to as ?Errors.?" MF 08 > > "After the disappointing Tom Werman-produced Mirrors album, The Cult > were looking for something to get themselves back on track again." MF 10 > > The next quote actually pertains to the recording of Spectres, but I > think the perspective translates nicely to Mirrors as well... > > "In March of 1977, as the Agents Of Fortune 250 date tour > ended and the guys got some time off from the road, it was > time to start preparing new material for the next album. Lots > of decisions had to be made: which direction to follow and > what kind of concept to go with on this follow-up to Agents. > They had to adjust to a new way of life in the shadow of chart > success, and the demand to become hit makers. There were, > for the first time, commercial pressures to at least match the > success of Agents, and since the hit of ?The Reaper,? they all > saw the possibilities of having radio hits. Although in those > days they were almost guaranteed a big seller, they had > moved up the ladder of commercial success, and almost > subconsciously they had a different directional approach to > their playing, and the necessity to become more easily > accessible is heard in their playing. > The clash between Punk and Disco distorted guidelines of > Rock & Roll that year ..." MF 11 > > > By the way, all this great info from Morning Final can be YOURS by going > to www.bocfanclub.com - Melne has put all the issues of MF in PDF format > for download. > > > > > > > I listened to the 1st 3 releases I pretty much felt them to be a unit - not > > only did I consider each one to be an album but all 3 worked together as a > > sort of meta-album. > > Most fans, and even the band, would agree with that assessment. > > > > Then with Agents, Spectres, and Mirrors, it seemed to me > > that lots of different ideas from different people were being tossed in as > > discrete songs with different approaches and no real attempt made to create > > a unified whole. (The liner notes for the re-release of AoF just out > > actually seem to agree with me here and indicate this was due to the advent > > of home-recording equipment allowing everyone to more fully form their ideas > > in a solo setting before presenting it to the band - a pretty interesting > > read, and also a nice explanation for what I was hearing). > > Exactly. The band was no longer writing as much as a unit, but working > on demos at home so there is much more individual efforts, which yielded > more diversity. Also, after "Reaper", the band was more conscious of > trying to write a radio "hit". > > > > I would offer as a possible > > explanation that it was not because Mirrors was suddenly a whole lot worse > > than the previous releases, but that people who had been holding on and > > hoping for a return to the 'good old days' suddenly decided that 'nope, they > > werent coming back, this proves it, lets get out' - the overall count for > > the last 2 or 3 releases had begun to tip too much negative. > > > Probably partly true. But "Some Enchanted Evening" broke up the space > between "Spectres" and "Mirrors", so I think that contributed to the > more sudden drop-off a the time of "Mirrors". > > Then again, if you were in high school in 1972-1974, by the time > "Mirrors" was coming out, you may have been getting out of college and > persuing other interests, so that may have been a factor too... > > > Still, looking BACK in time, I can find enjoyment from the album - but > can see how a fan "growing up" on BOC would have had issues with Mirrors. > > > John From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Jul 6 18:24:29 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 18:24:29 -0400 Subject: BOC: Lots More o' Stuff & the mac Message-ID: ahh...the old fleetwood mac...still working on getting their music on cd. though i did see the '75 version on their first tour opening for jefferson starship!...blew them off the stage... look for `rock & pop legends-peter green' or `rattlesnake guitar-tribute' cds kick ass heathcliff Scruton, Jason wrote: > > John Quoted (now I'll have to get a PDF viewer. thanks for the info on > Morning Final!): > > >"To date, these rehearsals and recordings were the bands most thorough > >work for any album before or after, with almost 3 months on > >pre-production alone. And for all that work came the album that most fans > put > >at the bottom of their 'fave album' list; which Eric, in England's New > >Musical Express paper, alluded might make good frisbees; > >and to this day is sometimes referred to as "Errors."" MF 08 > Wow. that's interesting to know. It shows that Werman just wasn't the right > producer for the task. Fortunately for BOC, the live performances always > pull the band out of the fire... Just listen to their version of "The Vigil" > thats been in setlists these last few years-- its much more heavy than the > studio track. They really needed someone who was able to do something with > the material presented. What artists did Werman produce for? I'd wager > money (if i had any) that they were AOR through and through -- sounding > clean,pristine and devoid of anything that might be remotely enjoyable (like > Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours" sound, which was referred to before on this > thread. Makes you wish that people remember Fleetwood Mac for their Blues > band/Peter Green formation moreso than the later "stuff" (to put it > nicely)). > > >> I listened to the 1st 3 releases I pretty much felt them to > >be a unit - not only did I consider each one to be an album but all 3 > worked > >together as a sort of meta-album. > >Most fans, and even the band, would agree with that assessment. > > The liner notes of the remastered ST reflect that. Would be curious to hear > what pearlman or Krugman have to say about the rerelease of the catalog > these days. > > Speaking of units, any word anywhere on when the next batch of remasters > will be set free from their prisons? and if there is, what can we look > forward to extratrackwise? > (I really hate not having internet access from work. then again, It's nice > to be productive once in a (long) while.) > > >Exactly. The band was no longer writing as much as a unit, but working > >on demos at home so there is much more individual efforts, > >which yielded >more diversity. Also, after "Reaper", the band was more > conscious of > >trying to write a radio "hit". > Reaper's demo has a more Mideastern tinge to it with the demo, due to the > guitar(whose tone reminds me of Jeff Beck's in the Yardbirds' "Shapes of > Things" (esp. the guitar solo break)) soloing at the intro and book > percussion sound. > > If AoF didnt convince you of the diversification, the bonus tracks on AoF > should do it: Albert's FoUO is quite texturally different than the first 3 > (with maybe the exception of the sound of Redeemed; it also blends nicely > bridgewise to "Death Valley Nights" (i think Brian said this to me once); > Sally has a much "funkier"/James Brown-ish allusion than what we'd be used > to from the band, esp. in the "scratches on your knees..." verse sections > and the "morning sun was rising", "Scratches on your knees..." and so forth. > > But then again, look at how ST ended -- Astronomy is a very non- super heavy > monster metal riff song in the studio at least. Live is a different matter > cuz of the extended, heavier Dharma solo. It may have parts that are like > that(astronomy, a star, and the Hey! sections), but the main verse music is > very laid back and... different than the firestorm of "Flaming Telepaths" > and "Dominance", or the extra tracks for that matter. The 4 tracks > accelerated that direction of the group maybe. > > > >Probably partly true. But "Some Enchanted Evening" broke up the space > >between "Spectres" and "Mirrors", so I think that contributed to the > >more sudden drop-off a the time of "Mirrors". > I wonder: did the inclusion of two cover songs on "SEE" probably throw some > for a loop as well? I would not have expected (had I been more than a few > years older than 3 then) a band with 5 studio albums under their belt, > coming off their biggest 2 albums to date, to throw in someone else's > material, no matter how cool their version of Kick out the Jams is. Then > again, a live version of "Celestial the Queen" (if it was ever done live) > probably would have resulted in furrowed eyebrows. > > >Then again, if you were in high school in 1972-1974, by the time > >"Mirrors" was coming out, you may have been getting out of college and > >persuing other interests, so that may have been a factor too... > > Wait a minute, slow down a second, John. There's more to life than BOC??? > hypothetical answer: "Yes, Jason. The Brain Surgeons." > Jason replies," Whew! You had me worried for a minute!" > > The world's my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum, > Jason From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 6 18:28:17 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 18:28:17 -0400 Subject: OFF: BOC: New York State of reissues Message-ID: Picked up the new reissues of 'Secret Treaties' and 'Ramones' last night (bonus tracks on the latter are pre-album demos, most of which were previously released on the 'All the Stuff' vol.1 CD, a 7" on Norton, and a bootleg 7"EP; it also comes in a nifty slipcase). Nice to see two of the greatest bands from New York getting such splendid back catalog treatment at the same time! Something tells me that I'll have the new CD's of the first three albums by both bands within a couple weeks ... Do BOC and the Ramones have anything else in common besides opening for Dio- era Black Sabbath on subsequent tours (or associations w/Jim Carroll and Patti Smith)? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Jul 6 18:26:30 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 18:26:30 -0400 Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong Message-ID: except pictures of matchstick men... h William Duffy wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/3/01 8:18:09 AM, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > > > > << Alice wrote: > > > Listening to the Queen's song "Headlong" and hear a lot of similarities > with > > > the HW song Needle Gun. Long ago I wanted to ask is it only me who hear > that > > > Queen stole music from Hawkwind? > > >> > > [========= > > dunno whether if it's 'only you' > > but > > it aint me babe. > > > > i would say > > no, Queen didnt steal from hawkwind. > > > > any number of bands could have done something > > as outrageously SIMPLE > > as 'needle gun' > > > > which, as it is, isnt too terribly far from > > 'kings of speed' > > Which is also similar to 99% of Status Quo's material. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Fri Jul 6 19:08:15 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 19:08:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: the mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 18:24 7.6.01 -0400, you wrote: >ahh...the old fleetwood mac...still working on getting their music on cd. though >look for `rock & pop legends-peter green' or `rattlesnake guitar-tribute' cds >kick ass >heathcliff Actually, theres a 6 cd box set: Fleetwood Mac: the Complete Blue Horizon Sessions 1967-1969. Remastered w/ liner notes by their original producer Mike Vernon (also the producer of Focus, among others0) and a ton of extra tracks. every disc is over an hour long I think. Peter Green's Splinter Group is good too. its him in modern times (w/less mental disorders) and with a guitar. has a few albums out with them. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Fri Jul 6 19:22:30 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 19:22:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: liner messups Message-ID: Ick. more mistakes. For one, they said Roni Huffman took the photo on pg.2. Second: Songwriting credits differ on 1. Teen Archer D.Roeser,E.Bloom,R.Meltzer in the lyric book and the MoFi album. its A. Bouchard, E.Bloom, R. Meltzer on p/8 of the rematered booklet. 2. OD'd on Life Itself S. Pearlman, A.Bouchard,J.Bouchard,E. Bloom in lyricbook and MoFi S. Pearlman, A.Bouchard,D. Roeser, E.Bloom on p.6 [order changed to make it easier too see the slipup.] It's that way for the studio listing of it and the bonus live track. 3. Sally excludes P.Smith from the creidts listen in Trepanation. Just fo e the sake of being complete, 4. Buck's Boogie S.Pearlman, A.Bouchard,E.Bloom in remastered T&M B.Dharma, A.Bouchard in all other realities. i don't have BOC's first one in the remastered condition. I didnt see any miscrediting in ST. Ah the fun, Jason From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jul 6 19:28:21 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 00:28:21 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Warp In-Reply-To: <200107062142.RAA12506@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200107062142.RAA12506 at listserv.spc.edu>, Alastair Lee Sumner writes >Hi, >I was curious as to whether any HW fans on this list have read 'The Warp' >by Neil Oram. It consists of 3 books, 'A Storm's Howling through >Tiflis', 'Lemmings on the Edge' and 'The Balustrade Paradox'. Ken Campbell >staged the play that apparently holds the Guiness record for the longest >play (24 hours). It seems like the kind of thing that at least one or two >HW fans might have read. > >Regards, >Alastair. I picked it up when it came out i.e when I was about 15. It looked kind of like the Illuminatus trilogy but um, wasn't. I gave up after about 200 pages. Was it any good then? Yours is the first mention I've ever come across in 20 plus years. I still have my mildewed copies. -- Jonny K "Atheistic humanism is the opiate of the self-described intellectuals." From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Fri Jul 6 19:57:32 2001 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 19:57:32 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: The Surgeons in Raleigh Message-ID: Much fun was had by all despite the small crowd and the lead-in band's attempt to deafen us. And despite guitars that wouldn't stay tuned and many broken strings. And, of course, the video memory ran out in the middle of Godzilla. *sigh* Set list, song order and completeness not guaranteed: Last Angry Woman Cities on Flame Sinful Love Niagara Falls Alpha and Omega Medusa St. Vitus Godzilla Astronomy Curse of the Hidden Mirrors Dominance & Submission The Red and the Black -- Jean Lansford oystrgal at bellsouth.net I can't even remember the last time someone cheated ME out of anything. - Yoshimo Baldur's Gate II From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jul 6 20:30:06 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 01:30:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: the mac Message-ID: yeh - but just out is the dbl CD 'Showbiz Blues' on which the second CD features the WHOLE of their legendary BBC Radio One In Concert Broadcast (only they can't say it's the BBC thing on the sleeve as, presumably like so many around right now, the BBC don't know they've put it out), and the versions of 'Green Manalishi' and 'Rattlesnake Shake/Underway' are just awesome - the only triple guitar lead line-up in the history of rock to go completely bonkers, to boot. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bolts of Ungodly Vision" To: Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 12:08 AM Subject: OFF: the mac > At 18:24 7.6.01 -0400, you wrote: > >ahh...the old fleetwood mac...still working on getting their music on cd. > though > >look for `rock & pop legends-peter green' or `rattlesnake guitar-tribute' cds > >kick ass > >heathcliff > > Actually, theres a 6 cd box set: Fleetwood Mac: the Complete Blue Horizon > Sessions 1967-1969. Remastered w/ liner notes by their original producer > Mike Vernon (also the producer of Focus, among others0) and a ton of extra > tracks. every disc is over an hour long I think. > > Peter Green's Splinter Group is good too. its him in modern times (w/less > mental disorders) and with a guitar. has a few albums out with them. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jul 6 20:35:02 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 01:35:02 +0100 Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong Message-ID: hey - listen to the industrial one on Cleopatra - the thing is, AC/DC wrote some great rock tracks but could never pull them off - in the hands of the industrial crew, they take on a whole new lease of ear-shattering life. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Jackson" To: Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 6:57 PM Subject: Re: HW: needle gun & headlong > On 6 Jul 2001, at 19:06, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > > > .............or AC/DC, one of the few bands on the planet whose > > tribute albums by other artists are actually better than the real > > thing!!! Andy Garibaldi > > Well, that is hardly a Herculean achievement! > > theo From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Jul 6 20:08:51 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 01:08:51 +0100 Subject: Test - ignore Message-ID: I hope I'm back. Cheers, Rich. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Jul 6 20:52:47 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 01:52:47 +0100 Subject: BOC / HW: Test - ignore Message-ID: > I hope I'm back. Oh good, I am. The reason I haven't posted for a while is because the address I originally had for this list now won't let me send email out. I've tried a few times to get resubscribed on a different address, and I've only got read access. Now I can post. Hurrah. (I'm not having a go here, I suspect it was my fault.) :-) Right, a few things I've been trying to talk about - some of which are rather out of date. 1. Many thanks to Kevin "Sonic Authority" Perry for forwarding me the Evening Standard review of Brixton. Cheers Kev! 2. Many thanks to Messrs Gilham and Anderson for a top night out at Girlschool. Anyone who hasn't twigged yet, you NEED to download / see the Suffrajets (Girlschool's support). If you can get over the fact that they need to expand their record collections past "Nevermind" (They're only eighteen ferchrisssake), they're fantastic. 3. Mirrors. I *love* Mirrors. The one track that no-one's mentioned yet is "Mirrors" itself. If anyone who knocks it out there can write a better line than "A mirror is a negative space with a frame" then they're entitled to knock it. Admittedly, it's not Secret Treaties, but what is? The whole album is Blue Oyster Cult doing pop music. If that's a problem, so be it. Led Zep IV was pop music, and I never hear anyone knocking that. 4. Stalk Forrest Group. It's wonderful. I'd only heard "Arthur Comics" and "What is Quicksand?" before, on a tape that a friend gave me and I subsequently lost. And yes, I've waited for the best part of twenty years (from when I first got into BOC) to hear Gil Blanco County. And yes, it's worth it. For what it's worth, the reason I first bought a CD player was because "Beginnings" by Ambrose Slade was rereleased on CD. I bought the CD and then had to go and buy a CD player. Listening to "St. Cecilia...." did the same thing for me as listening to "Beginnings" did. 5. There's a new Half Man Half Biscuit single (actually, I reckon six tracks makes it a mini album) out. Go and buy it. 6. This should really be number one in my list, but hey, I'm a bit drunk. The lovely Gillian did me the great honour the other day of agreeing to become Mrs Lockwood. There's a picture of the most beautiful woman in the world (along with some fat bastard - not sure who he is - oh, that'd be me) at http://pictures.friendsreunited.co.uk/pictures/0046173.jpg 7. Since I've been living with the aforementioned Gillian, my stereo seems to have developed a major fault. I can be listening to "Quark, Strangeness and Charm", then I go to make Gill a coffee. I get back into the living room and discover that the stereo has mysteriously retuned itself to "Dancing Through The 80's With 'Disco' Bloody Danny Petroni". If anyone has any ideas for a fix, they'd be much appreciated. 8. I'm broadcasting a load of bizarre sh*t over the net on Live365.com. Go to www.live365.com and search for "richl". Then go for Beer Powered Radio Frenzy. All kinds of nonsense on there - Motorhead to David Dundas, The Bonzos to The Reynolds Girls. Ironic Radio a-go-go. :-) 9. BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY are on their way back into the rehearsal room. Dates to follow. :-) That's about it for now. Sorry I've banged on for so long, but I've been storing all that lot up for months. Still, I'm back now. (Cue: OH SHIT, NOT HIM AGAIN!) ;-) Cheers,, Rich. ObToonOnBPRF: Demons - The Edgar Broughton Band. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Jul 6 21:05:57 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 02:05:57 +0100 Subject: HW/BOC: Beer Powered Radio Frenzy - Blatent plug Message-ID: Here's the URL http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/mini.cgi?stream=409791&genre=&site=..&url=htt p://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/mini.cgi?stream=409791&genre=&site=.. which is probably split over two or more lines. Hawkwind, Man or Astroman?, Motorhead, BOC, The Bristols, Ivor Biggun, The Bonzos, Rezillos, Ramones and loads of other stuff. Cheers, Rich. ObTrackOnBPRF: Fuck Off - Wayne County and the Electric Chairs From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Jul 6 21:21:31 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 02:21:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: Tish and peshwari naan... me again. We were thinking about doing a gig where all songs would be covers of songs about wanking. So far we've got; Orgasm Addict (Buzzcocks) Turning Japanese (The Vapors) I Touch Myself (The Divinyls) Teenage Kicks (The Undertones) Dancing With Myself (Billy Idol) Get a Grip On Yourself(?) (Semisonic - new single) Another Valentines Day Wank (Beautiful South) Practically, anything by Ivor Biggun and the Red Nosed Burglars or Kevin Bloody Wilson Any other suggestions would be much appreciated. ;-) Cheers, Rich. ObTrackOnBPRF: The Intro And The Outro - The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Fri Jul 6 21:51:10 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 21:51:10 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: The Surgeons in Raleigh In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Set list, song order and completeness not guaranteed: > >Last Angry Woman >Cities on Flame >Sinful Love >Niagara Falls >Alpha and Omega >Medusa >St. Vitus >Godzilla >Astronomy >Curse of the Hidden Mirrors Curse of the Hidden Mirrors?? Oh my god. That is.... well,..... unF*ckingbelievable. wow. Lucky you!:) If a live album ever comes out of the Surgeons camp, this must go on it. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jul 6 21:35:18 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 21:35:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: Mike Watt writes about recording with Gov't Mule (fwd) Message-ID: I don't know if folks know, but Gov't Mule are currently recording a new album featuring a whole boatload of famous bassists. Mike Watt is one of them. It seems from the diary extract below that they came ->THIS CLOSE<- to doing a cover of "The Red and the Black" for the album! Now wouldn't that've been ultra cool? Shame they went with the CCR. Maybe Warren got scared off by the weird lyrics (one of his stated reasons he doesn't do more Zappa)? I believe the album is due out sometime in September this year. It should be a monster. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa >>>>> http://www.hootpage.com/hoot_fog2001-3diary1.html [...] thursday, may 31, 2001 - london, england [...] tuesday was a meeting w/the mule cats about the recording. we talk about doing that b.o.c. tune, "the red and the black," I explained to them john fogerty was the reason I wore flannels, he had such an effect on me as a kid and as well on d. boon. I can't say there was a band more influential on both of us as ccr. we learned every song they did as boys. loved that voice, loved that guitar, loved them tunes - the words too. it just happened also to be john fogerty's birthday. lots of conncetions. afterwards, I meet matt at this b.b. king club in times square to see john entwhistle at some industry trough thing. much respect to b.b. but this pad was the worst, the sound was like a skating rink. what a trip to see mr. entwhistle's fingers go but for watt it got to be another horrid classic rock wank. I enjoyed seeing drummer matt sit in on "johnny b. goode," playing one of those 'cage' kits w/double kick drums. the next day was the recording and that was something. I had been so nervous the last few days before it, kind of petrified and out of my mind really but they were really cool guys and made things nice for me. warren and matt decided on choosing a creedence clearwater revival song, "effigy," and then putting some parts of two other tunes by them, "slip away" and "ramble tamble." the studio was this old yiddish theatre on the lower east side and we recorded right on stage, like a gig. mike from _phish_ was making a movie about the creating of this record so first I had to do some spiel and answer some bass questions. he was great and asked me some happening stuff. I was quite nervous but at least had the little bass right there in my hands, compass and all. then came the recording. the first take had me so stressed, I clammed like crazy so I sat down for the next ones. "effigy" is a heavy tune, words about burning down the palace and shit like that. much respect to creedance but I wanted to take the tune and the mule cats in another way so I let the little bass sing and improvise, trading eights w/the chords and then real going out w/the parts from the other two tunes. matt did too. I found out later they don't do overdubs, just chop tape so that was quite a trip. it was a blast playing w/them though and I have to say I was quite relieved when we got takes three, four and five done cuz they were keepers. each one was like ten minutes long but they said it would end up around eight. I was totally drained and must've sweated like five pounds off but at least we did it. wow, after never playing w/them before in my life. much respect to warren and matt. matt lives in the val, near perk so I want him to come to pedro when there's time and show him the town. man, the bass players on this project. I tried not to let that effect me but there's john entwhistle, jack bruce, george porter, flea, les claypool, john paul jones, roger glover, chris squire, stanley clarke - damn, you name it. quite scary on watt from that angle too. I got through it though and am quite honored they asked me to do it. what a pants-shitter though, I swear I was going to crumble. warren and matt plus producer michael's (felix papalardi's cousin - whoa!) spirits kept me buoyed however. thanks, bros. [...] From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 6 21:54:22 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 21:54:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 02:21:31 +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote: >We were thinking about doing a gig where all songs would be covers of songs >about wanking. > >So far we've got; > >Orgasm Addict (Buzzcocks) >Turning Japanese (The Vapors) >I Touch Myself (The Divinyls) >Teenage Kicks (The Undertones) >Dancing With Myself (Billy Idol) >Get a Grip On Yourself(?) (Semisonic - new single) Any relation to the Stranglers song of the same title? >Another Valentines Day Wank (Beautiful South) >Practically, anything by Ivor Biggun and the Red Nosed Burglars or Kevin >Bloody Wilson > >Any other suggestions would be much appreciated. Pictures of Lily (the Who) Auto-Manipulator (Crispin Hellion Glover - great Beastie Boys parody) hmmm ... I'm surprised I can't think of more offhand ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Fri Jul 6 21:59:46 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 03:59:46 +0200 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help In-Reply-To: <200107070154.VAA14345@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >We were thinking about doing a gig where all songs would be covers of songs > >about wanking. > > > >So far we've got; > > > >Orgasm Addict (Buzzcocks) > >Turning Japanese (The Vapors) > >I Touch Myself (The Divinyls) > >Teenage Kicks (The Undertones) > >Dancing With Myself (Billy Idol) > >Get a Grip On Yourself(?) (Semisonic - new single) > >Any relation to the Stranglers song of the same title? > > >Another Valentines Day Wank (Beautiful South) > >Practically, anything by Ivor Biggun and the Red Nosed Burglars or Kevin > >Bloody Wilson > > > >Any other suggestions would be much appreciated. > >Pictures of Lily (the Who) >Auto-Manipulator (Crispin Hellion Glover - great Beastie Boys parody) > >hmmm ... I'm surprised I can't think of more offhand ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com lou reed - i'm banging on my drum (from rock & roll heart) andre From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Fri Jul 6 22:20:57 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 22:20:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010707035900.009e8ec0@pop.cablewanadoo.nl> Message-ID: >>Pictures of Lily (the Who) Wasn't "Happy Jack" similarly themed? How could anyone forget "My Ding a Ling" by Chuck Berry? heh. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Jul 6 22:23:39 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 03:23:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: > >Orgasm Addict (Buzzcocks) > >Turning Japanese (The Vapors) > >I Touch Myself (The Divinyls) > >Teenage Kicks (The Undertones) > >Dancing With Myself (Billy Idol) > >Get a Grip On Yourself(?) (Semisonic - new single) > >Another Valentines Day Wank (Beautiful South) > >Practically, anything by Ivor Biggun and the Red Nosed Burglars or Kevin > >Bloody Wilson Pictures of Lily (the Who) Auto-Manipulator (Crispin Hellion Glover - great Beastie Boys parody) lou reed - i'm banging on my drum (from rock & roll heart) "My Ding a Ling" by Chuck Berry Mr Bolts of Ungodly has suggested one or two more rather obscure ones, but we'll stick with reasonably well known ones for now... Any more for any more? ;-) Cheers, Rich. ObTrackOnBPRF: Right To Decide - Oh, you know who... From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Jul 6 22:40:05 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 22:40:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: how about `don't touch me there' by the tubes heathcliff Richard Lockwood wrote: > > Tish and peshwari naan... me again. > > We were thinking about doing a gig where all songs would be covers of songs > about wanking. > > So far we've got; > > Orgasm Addict (Buzzcocks) > Turning Japanese (The Vapors) > I Touch Myself (The Divinyls) > Teenage Kicks (The Undertones) > Dancing With Myself (Billy Idol) > Get a Grip On Yourself(?) (Semisonic - new single) > Another Valentines Day Wank (Beautiful South) > Practically, anything by Ivor Biggun and the Red Nosed Burglars or Kevin > Bloody Wilson > > Any other suggestions would be much appreciated. > > ;-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ObTrackOnBPRF: The Intro And The Outro - The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Sat Jul 7 00:31:47 2001 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 00:31:47 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: The Surgeons in Raleigh In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010706215110.0068f4d8@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: >>Set list, song order and completeness not guaranteed: >> >>Last Angry Woman >>Cities on Flame >>Sinful Love >>Niagara Falls >>Alpha and Omega >>Medusa >>St. Vitus >>Godzilla >>Astronomy >>Curse of the Hidden Mirrors > >Curse of the Hidden Mirrors?? >Oh my god. That is.... well,..... unF*ckingbelievable. wow. Lucky you!:) *sob* But there's no video! >If a live album ever comes out of the Surgeons camp, this must go on it. I'm still holding out for a live version of Vera, myself. 8) -- Jean Lansford oystrgal at bellsouth.net I can't even remember the last time someone cheated ME out of anything. - Yoshimo Baldur's Gate II From StevenTice at AOL.COM Sat Jul 7 00:57:14 2001 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 00:57:14 EDT Subject: BRAIN: The Surgeons in Raleigh Message-ID: In a message dated 07/07/2001 12:37:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET writes: > I'm still holding out for a live version of Vera, myself. 8) I have a mini-tape of tBS doing Vera Gemini (Albert on guitar, Peter Bohovesky on drums) as an audience request in Altoona a few years ago...the tape is pretty cruddy and I don't know how to copy it, but if anyone has any suggestions for copying it, I'd like to hear them. :-) SET From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Jul 7 04:31:50 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 09:31:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Warp Message-ID: Neil Oram? Wasn't he the guy who lived in a remote Yorkshire cottage because the cabbages told him to? I'm sure I've seen references to him in relation to Syd Barrett, who stayed at his abode once during his later Pink Floyd period - apparently hanging from the beams. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alastair Lee Sumner To: Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 10:42 PM Subject: OFF: The Warp > Hi, > I was curious as to whether any HW fans on this list have read 'The Warp' > by Neil Oram. It consists of 3 books, 'A Storm's Howling through > Tiflis', 'Lemmings on the Edge' and 'The Balustrade Paradox'. Ken Campbell > staged the play that apparently holds the Guiness record for the longest > play (24 hours). It seems like the kind of thing that at least one or two > HW fans might have read. > > Regards, > Alastair. From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Jul 7 04:34:15 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 09:34:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: A couple spring to mind... Red Guitar - David Sylvian Everyday I Die - Gary Numan And there are some references to this, er, subject in Genesis's Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, particulary Counting Out Time. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Lockwood To: Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 2:21 AM Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help > Tish and peshwari naan... me again. > > We were thinking about doing a gig where all songs would be covers of songs > about wanking. > > So far we've got; > > Orgasm Addict (Buzzcocks) > Turning Japanese (The Vapors) > I Touch Myself (The Divinyls) > Teenage Kicks (The Undertones) > Dancing With Myself (Billy Idol) > Get a Grip On Yourself(?) (Semisonic - new single) > Another Valentines Day Wank (Beautiful South) > Practically, anything by Ivor Biggun and the Red Nosed Burglars or Kevin > Bloody Wilson > > Any other suggestions would be much appreciated. > > ;-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ObTrackOnBPRF: The Intro And The Outro - The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sat Jul 7 08:56:35 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 08:56:35 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: The Surgeons in Raleigh In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>Curse of the Hidden Mirrors?? >>Oh my god. That is.... well,..... unF*ckingbelievable. wow. Lucky you!:) > >*sob* But there's no video! By the way , who sang? did dave Play the guitar on this tune? From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Sat Jul 7 09:33:50 2001 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 09:33:50 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: The Surgeons in Raleigh In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010707085635.0068ff7c@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: >>>Curse of the Hidden Mirrors?? >>>Oh my god. That is.... well,..... unF*ckingbelievable. wow. Lucky you!:) >> >>*sob* But there's no video! > >By the way , who sang? did dave Play the guitar on this tune? Albert sang and played guitar, IIRC, Deb was on drums and Dave was on bass. (Actually, my memory is trying to say Albert still had his mandolin out, but my hubby insists not.) Again IIRC, Dave played guitar on D&S and tR&tB. And another tune or two, but it's all a mite fuzzy. ;) -- Jean Lansford oystrgal at bellsouth.net A question to you, Keldorn: Do good knights ever find cause to sing bawdy songs and tell ribald tales around a campfire, or is dourness an inarguable tenet of the Order? - Yoshimo Baldur's Gate II From jbrooks1 at HOME.COM Sat Jul 7 10:09:57 2001 From: jbrooks1 at HOME.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 07:09:57 -0700 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help In-Reply-To: <200107070900.FAA16092@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: How could we not include: Muscle of Love - Alice Cooper ...and didn't Greenday have a song.. not a fan of theirs so I dunno the title but, it had something about "bite my lip and close my eyes, take me away to paradise" JB -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Automatic digest processor Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 2:00 AM Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 22:20:57 -0400 From: Bolts of Ungodly Vision Subject: Re: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help >>Pictures of Lily (the Who) Wasn't "Happy Jack" similarly themed? How could anyone forget "My Ding a Ling" by Chuck Berry? heh. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 03:23:39 +0100 From: Richard Lockwood Subject: Re: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help > >Orgasm Addict (Buzzcocks) > >Turning Japanese (The Vapors) > >I Touch Myself (The Divinyls) > >Teenage Kicks (The Undertones) > >Dancing With Myself (Billy Idol) > >Get a Grip On Yourself(?) (Semisonic - new single) > >Another Valentines Day Wank (Beautiful South) > >Practically, anything by Ivor Biggun and the Red Nosed Burglars or Kevin > >Bloody Wilson Pictures of Lily (the Who) Auto-Manipulator (Crispin Hellion Glover - great Beastie Boys parody) lou reed - i'm banging on my drum (from rock & roll heart) "My Ding a Ling" by Chuck Berry Mr Bolts of Ungodly has suggested one or two more rather obscure ones, but we'll stick with reasonably well known ones for now... Any more for any more? ;-) Cheers, Rich. ObTrackOnBPRF: Right To Decide - Oh, you know who... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 22:40:05 -0400 From: Tim Subject: Re: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help how about `don't touch me there' by the tubes heathcliff Richard Lockwood wrote: > > Tish and peshwari naan... me again. > > We were thinking about doing a gig where all songs would be covers of songs > about wanking. > > So far we've got; > > Orgasm Addict (Buzzcocks) > Turning Japanese (The Vapors) > I Touch Myself (The Divinyls) > Teenage Kicks (The Undertones) > Dancing With Myself (Billy Idol) > Get a Grip On Yourself(?) (Semisonic - new single) > Another Valentines Day Wank (Beautiful South) > Practically, anything by Ivor Biggun and the Red Nosed Burglars or Kevin > Bloody Wilson > > Any other suggestions would be much appreciated. > > ;-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ObTrackOnBPRF: The Intro And The Outro - The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Jul 7 12:36:37 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 12:36:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: setlist; SLOTERDIJK; private performance (Schillfest 2001) Message-ID: What a wonderful night it was for a psychedelic party!!! Perfect weather, beautiful, clear star filled skies and hydroponic variety, made this a great show!! I had toyed with the idea of playing here for some time, but the opportunity just never realistically presented itself. Next time, we will get the word out in advance, and have ourselves a nice little free festival. For those who were here, thanks for showing up and partying with us. On a lark, we decided to to name the event after the first person who showed up. That person turned out to be Jim Schill. Jim is a friend of mine from college, and was the other half of 'Abraham Stinkin', a project which existed from 1989-?. And thus 'Schillfest' was born...... It was a pleasure to finally have adequate sound etc..I am still drinking coffee in an attempt to bring some clarity to my senses... Peace, Mike Burro setlist: space intro>The Thunderbirds> monologue> Uranium Zone Hassan I Sabha (Assassins of Allah) Fred Goldman's Mustache Integration Iron Lung Golden Void * Sloterdijk I ( joined by Rob Baker on guitar) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Sat Jul 7 15:50:24 2001 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 12:50:24 -0700 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Keeping it in the family, there's Motorheads "Vibrator" (from On Parole, with Larry Wallis) At 10:40 PM 7/6/01 -0400, you wrote: >how about `don't touch me there' by the tubes >heathcliff >Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > > Tish and peshwari naan... me again. > > > > We were thinking about doing a gig where all songs would be covers of songs > > about wanking. > > > > So far we've got; > > > > Orgasm Addict (Buzzcocks) > > Turning Japanese (The Vapors) > > I Touch Myself (The Divinyls) > > Teenage Kicks (The Undertones) > > Dancing With Myself (Billy Idol) > > Get a Grip On Yourself(?) (Semisonic - new single) > > Another Valentines Day Wank (Beautiful South) > > Practically, anything by Ivor Biggun and the Red Nosed Burglars or Kevin > > Bloody Wilson > > > > Any other suggestions would be much appreciated. > > > > ;-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > ObTrackOnBPRF: The Intro And The Outro - The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Jul 7 15:09:53 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 15:09:53 EDT Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: the song isn't _all_ about wanking, but there's a reference or two in Zappa's "Disco Boy" (Zoot Allures)... Chuck ..."just the tip now, just the tip"... From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat Jul 7 17:06:42 2001 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 23:06:42 +0200 Subject: HW:signing off Message-ID: Sorry guys and dolls, but I'm fed up with getting up at 7am every saturdaymorning and cleaning up my e-mails till 10am (I can only read and reply during weekends,due to work) After cleening up I don't have to courage and taste to reply to the ones that interest me. This used to be a very nice discussion group but I'm really fed up with it. All the crap that appears on it? Anyway,have all the fun in the future and I'll keep the personal contacts for the future.(Bernie,Arin,etc....) For those concerned,I'll be at Canterbury(wouldn't miss it for the world) This is the end my friend,my beautiful friend. best wishes filip hawknut From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Jul 7 17:30:30 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 22:30:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Warp In-Reply-To: <007401c106c0$8f383ec0$100c28d5@starfield> Message-ID: In article <007401c106c0$8f383ec0$100c28d5 at starfield>, Captain Bl at ck writes >Neil Oram? Wasn't he the guy who lived in a remote Yorkshire cottage because >the cabbages told him to? He's also the guy whose name sounds a bit like "Marillion" backwards. If you're drunk, anyway. -- Jon From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Jul 7 14:45:00 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 19:45:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles/ Pink Fairies Message-ID: Exactly the opposite for me - thought 'Previously Unreleased' is a real belter rock mini album and 'Kill 'em' is a real disappointment - ah well, that's opinion for you. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 1:41 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Ozric Tentacles/ Pink Fairies . The album produced is called _Kill 'Em and Eat 'em_ and is OK 80s > >rock with sadly _Xenon Codex_-like production values, but it's not really > >what one expects from the PF moniker. > > I rather like that album, certainly not very psychedelic but Wallis has a real > knack as a raunch'n'roll songwriter. The Mick Farren lyrics on a couple of > tracks are a bonus too. Certainly I like it better than the "Previously > Unreleased" mini-album to which you refer elsewhere. > > -- > Nick Medford From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Jul 7 14:42:06 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 19:42:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies Message-ID: Not to be picky, but isn't it Mick Wayne, the guy from Juniors Eyes' 'Battersea Power Station' album? Andy Garibaldi. > >1971 Paul Rudolph quits and the other to grab a guitarist called James > >Wayne for one single (`Well Well Well') From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jul 7 19:07:10 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 00:07:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: And Calvert's Thanks to the Scientists has the great line: Heredity is chosen By anyone who wanks --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Rosenberg To: Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 8:09 PM Subject: Re: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help > the song isn't _all_ about wanking, but there's a reference or two in Zappa's > "Disco Boy" (Zoot Allures)... > > Chuck > > ..."just the tip now, just the tip"... From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sat Jul 7 19:13:27 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 19:13:27 -0400 Subject: BOC: MORE (sigh) liner note incongruities Message-ID: >From compatriot Brian's email to me: BOC liner notes: Before the Kiss (MOFI) S. Pearlman, M. Krugman, A. Lanier, D. Roeser Before the Kiss (SONY) S. Pearlman, D. Roeser Cities on Flame (MOFI) S. Pearlman, D. Roeser, A. Bouchard Cities on Flame (SONY) D. Roeser, A. Bouchard Sez brian,"Amazingly though, even with different writers, the songs all sound the same! ;-) " one would think that someone somewhere would pay attention to this kind of thing. Jason From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sat Jul 7 19:42:42 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 19:42:42 -0400 Subject: BOC: BOC fan on the writing staff of Andromeda? Message-ID: Sadly, was watching the show while eating ravioli (which tasted good) and they had a "ship" called the Starry Wisdom.. I doubt that particular phrase appears too often outside of Imaginos, eh? rah rah shish boom bah Jason From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sat Jul 7 19:41:11 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 00:41:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: > Keeping it in the family, there's Motorheads "Vibrator" (from On Parole, > with Larry Wallis) > Silly me! How could I have missed that!!! :-) Cheers, Rich. From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Sat Jul 7 20:05:26 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 20:05:26 -0400 Subject: OFF: The Warp Message-ID: My story is similar to yours. I got the 3rd one when I was in my final year at school in 1986 I think. I aquired the 1st and the 2nd books 1 or 2 years later. I read and re-read them many many times but have never met anyone who has even heard of them. I did some research on the net and found out that it has become quite a cult thing. This doesn't surprise me at all, they have dubbed it 'The play that changes lives'. For anyone that's interested it's about one man's journey through the underground and alternative culture of 50s, 60s and 70s Britain, starting in a Soho jazz cafe and ending up in a commune in Scotland.It is very intense. The play has been staged a few times in recent years and seems to have found a new generation of fans in the 'Rave' scene. It seems to have gone a little quiet now although I don't think that it's dead. Alastair. On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 00:28:21 +0100, Jon Browne wrote: > >I picked it up when it came out i.e when I was about 15. It looked kind >of like the Illuminatus trilogy but um, wasn't. I gave up after about >200 pages. Was it any good then? Yours is the first mention I've ever >come across in 20 plus years. I still have my mildewed copies. >-- >Jonny K >"Atheistic humanism is the opiate of the self-described intellectuals." >In article <200107062142.RAA12506 at listserv.spc.edu>, Alastair Lee Sumner > writes >>Hi, >>I was curious as to whether any HW fans on this list have read 'The Warp' >>by Neil Oram. It consists of 3 books, 'A Storm's Howling through >>Tiflis', 'Lemmings on the Edge' and 'The Balustrade Paradox'. Ken Campbell >>staged the play that apparently holds the Guiness record for the longest >>play (24 hours). It seems like the kind of thing that at least one or two >>HW fans might have read. >> >>Regards, >>Alastair. > From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Sat Jul 7 20:32:46 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 20:32:46 -0400 Subject: OFF: The Warp Message-ID: Close...I've read that he lives up at Loch Ness in Scotland. Not sure about the Syd Barrett references, I'd be interested though. Alastair. On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 09:31:50 +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >Neil Oram? Wasn't he the guy who lived in a remote Yorkshire cottage because >the cabbages told him to? > >I'm sure I've seen references to him in relation to Syd Barrett, who stayed >at his abode once during his later Pink Floyd period - apparently hanging >from the beams. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Alastair Lee Sumner >To: >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 10:42 PM >Subject: OFF: The Warp > > >> Hi, >> I was curious as to whether any HW fans on this list have read 'The Warp' >> by Neil Oram. It consists of 3 books, 'A Storm's Howling through >> Tiflis', 'Lemmings on the Edge' and 'The Balustrade Paradox'. Ken Campbell >> staged the play that apparently holds the Guiness record for the longest >> play (24 hours). It seems like the kind of thing that at least one or two >> HW fans might have read. >> >> Regards, >> Alastair. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Jul 7 22:24:54 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 03:24:54 +0100 Subject: OFF: New Aural Innovations issue In-Reply-To: <200106130402.AAA09717@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, K Henderson wrote: > New radio shows are on the way. We're pleased to announce that The Kozmik > Ken Experience has joined Aural Innovations and Ken's first show with us > with debut later this week. Hurray! I haven't seen or heard from him for too long. What with you guys and Supanova he's almost an international celebrity now, no? Must get audio sorted out on this PC... Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From christmu at EUNET.NO Sat Jul 7 22:54:58 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 04:54:58 +0200 Subject: Greatest live experiences Message-ID: Ye Wild Oyster and Delerious Hawk Folke, Having pondered a good long while, I thought I'd jam together something of a set of reviews of various live performances which have left a lasting impression on my mind over the years. Yes, I've included my second Hawkwind show so far, so its still actually dangerously on-topic stuff, kids. Anyway, here goes anything..... When I saw Voivod play Oslo in 98, it was quite an awesome experience. The guitarist Piggy played guitar with a raygun! Strangely enough I remember moshing to Voivod's version of "Astronomy Domine", the Syd Barrett classic, sorta getting violent with this dude whom I'd previously met at some other show (Cathedral or Kyuss or... I can't remember). Anyway, I bought the "Phobos" CD and a Voivod shirt off the drummer Away after the show, who otherwise proved to be a talkative fellow. Some local blackmetal band opened the show, they were okay, but Voivod were insane. It was a great night and I didn't get too hammered. I first saw Motorhead at the Stone Pony in '94, and the main event of the night must be when my girlfriend at the time managed to get up on the stage and kiss Sebastian Bach of Skid Row who was guesting with the band. At first it irked me abit, but afterwards I kinda thought it was cool because I assumed Sebastian Bach must have been one of her teen heroes as she was a big metalhead. I'd even gotten her to mooch an autograph off Lemmy who was playing pinball and chatting with fans before the show, and I managed to ask him a couple of questions which he evasively answered. I must have seen Motorhead at least 5-6 times since, and I have to say as far as shows go it sticks in my head mostly as a "romantic" evening (the band weren't as fast and loud that night as they've been at other shows since I've seen em, nothing like that current superfast robotic drummer!) When I witnessed the mighty Hawkwind play the Limelight in New York in 1995, I brought my friend and previous landlord Larry along. My girlfriend at the time couldn't come along so just us two took the the bus to the city out of New Jersey. We finally made it to The Limelight, and I managed to pick up a couple of tour posters. One poster had a band lineup including "Ron Bastard" who I had no idea was. I soon found out after a bunch of ragtag acid jam and progrock bands opened as the band's then new singer Ron Bastard burst on the stage wearing a psychedelic lab coat and blurting out "Master of The Universe" at breakneck speed. It was a kickass energetic set which lasted for a good hour and a half, though we mostly sat up in the rafters smoking pot. The band closed with the jamming "LSD" and another mindblowing experience had been exercised on the mind. When I saw The Legendary Pink Dots play Oslo in 97 I went by myself because nobody I tried inviting wanted to come along. It was an amazing show which really surprised me as I'd never heard them before, it was a truly psychedelic experience. Nothing like it since Hawkwind 91. Anyway I managed to get way up front so I could zone out to the lightshow. The barefooted Edward Ka-Spel's feet really stunk and he was really sweating out the lyrics. I didn't know any of the songs but it kicked ass nonetheless. The high point of the night had to be the song about Y2K (don't know which album its on) which was very theatrically performed. The opening one-man band featuring the drummer Ryan Moore was so over the top bizarre I almost had multiple acid flashbacks. I left the venue after the show in a very elated haze and have since become something of a fan I suppose. I've been to tons of shows over the last decade or so but they have to be some of my more memorable ones. (I usually write better written CD reviews for space/psych zine Aural Innovations and local underground paper Gateavisa here in Norway). I originally posted these reviews to the Legendary Pink Dots list, so now BOC-L got their second coming... If there's a question, I guess it would be if BOC-L'ers could relive their favorite live show experiences/moments, what would they be? Chr. ObCD: Turbonegro tribute - Alpha Motherfuckers (still!) --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. From christmu at EUNET.NO Sat Jul 7 23:25:19 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 05:25:19 +0200 Subject: OFF: Magickal hardcore with Turbonegro... Message-ID: I just picked up the Turbonegro tribute CD, "Alpha Motherfuckers", on the german Bitzcore label. I down't own any of Turbonegro's previous CD's so I thought it would be a good start with this legendary Norwegian band. Its got a surprising list of bands covering their stuff, from Supersuckers, Queens of The Stone Age, Therapy?, Dwarves, Satyricon and more. It kicks ass... Highlights? Too many bands to mention really, but from "Suburban Antichrist" to "I Got Erection" to "Sailor Man" and "Midnight Nambla", its mind demolishing epic and filthy rock'n'roll unheard since Larry Wallis played in the Pink Fairies and Laibach covered Queen. Hell, I'd recommend it to anyone for free and willingly even, and so what if my mother was a heavy metal slut. I still lynched her! (smutty review by Charlie Yuga) --- Visit A Disease of The Mind at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/index.html - a library of rare pulp covers and other fallout from the 20th Century. From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sun Jul 8 05:15:24 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:15:24 +0100 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: ACtually it's Acid Reign (off Freq Revisited) - close. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Perry To: Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 12:07 AM Subject: Re: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help > And Calvert's Thanks to the Scientists has the great line: > > Heredity is chosen > By anyone who wanks > > --- > Kevin Perry > Sonic Energy Authority > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chuck Rosenberg > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 8:09 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help > > > > the song isn't _all_ about wanking, but there's a reference or two in > Zappa's > > "Disco Boy" (Zoot Allures)... > > > > Chuck > > > > ..."just the tip now, just the tip"... From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sun Jul 8 05:16:24 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:16:24 +0100 Subject: BOC: BOC fan on the writing staff of Andromeda? Message-ID: The Great Cthulhu Starry Wisdom band? Pops up in Illuminatus and other Robert Anton Wilson books, as does the phrase Starry Wisdom in general. DOn't know the relative dates to know which one came first. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Bolts of Ungodly Vision To: Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 12:42 AM Subject: BOC: BOC fan on the writing staff of Andromeda? > Sadly, was watching the show while eating ravioli (which tasted good) and > they had a "ship" called the Starry Wisdom.. I doubt that particular phrase > appears too often outside of Imaginos, eh? > > rah rah shish boom bah > Jason From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sun Jul 8 09:08:31 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:08:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Warp Message-ID: I quote from Lost In The Woods: "There was one last brief happy interlude, when Syd, Susie and Peter went to visit poet Neil Oram in his country cottage. Syd, in comfortable unpressured surroundings reminiscent of Earlham Street, with the same friendly faces, was able to shake loose the catatonia and relax. His smile returned as they sat around a hearth fire in the ancient cottage, seated on the floor as the autumnal evening fell. But Syd's smile masked a growing fear and uncertainty. He was unhappy". There is a further reference to 'beams' and 'cabbages' in Pete Anderson's biography of Syd, but I don't have it to hand. Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alastair Lee Sumner To: Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:32 AM Subject: Re: OFF: The Warp > Close...I've read that he lives up at Loch Ness in Scotland. Not sure about > the Syd Barrett references, I'd be interested though. > > Alastair. > > On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 09:31:50 +0100, Captain Bl at ck > wrote: > > >Neil Oram? Wasn't he the guy who lived in a remote Yorkshire cottage > because > >the cabbages told him to? > > > >I'm sure I've seen references to him in relation to Syd Barrett, who stayed > >at his abode once during his later Pink Floyd period - apparently hanging > >from the beams. > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Alastair Lee Sumner > >To: > >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 10:42 PM > >Subject: OFF: The Warp > > > > > >> Hi, > >> I was curious as to whether any HW fans on this list have read 'The Warp' > >> by Neil Oram. It consists of 3 books, 'A Storm's Howling through > >> Tiflis', 'Lemmings on the Edge' and 'The Balustrade Paradox'. Ken > Campbell > >> staged the play that apparently holds the Guiness record for the longest > >> play (24 hours). It seems like the kind of thing that at least one or two > >> HW fans might have read. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Alastair. From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sun Jul 8 10:03:16 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:03:16 EDT Subject: BOC / HW: Test - ignore Message-ID: In a message dated 7/6/01 7:53:12 PM US Eastern Standard Time, rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK writes: > 6. The lovely Gillian did me the great honour the other day of agreeing to > become Mrs Lockwood. There's a picture of the most beautiful woman in the > world Congrats! She's a doll!! > > 7. Since I've been living with the aforementioned Gillian, my stereo seems > to have developed a major fault. I can be listening to "Quark, Strangeness > and Charm", then I go to make Gill a coffee. I get back into the living > room and discover that the stereo has mysteriously retuned itself to > "Dancing Through The 80's With 'Disco' Bloody Danny Petroni". If anyone has > any ideas for a fix, they'd be much appreciated. > I would suggest that anytime you leave the room, you take the lovely Gillian with you, as the spirits that are futzing with the stereo are EVIL INCARNATE!!!!! It wouldn't do to leave her unprotected. To exorcise them, I would suggest a complete playing of all Hawkwind and BOC music at full volume. The sonic onslaught of such superb music will drive away any evil (disco) spirits. Always works for me! Joe From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sun Jul 8 10:05:17 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:05:17 EDT Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: In a message dated 7/6/01 8:22:00 PM US Eastern Standard Time, rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK writes: > We were thinking about doing a gig where all songs would be covers of songs > about wanking. > > What about The Who's 'Pictures of Lilly' Joe From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Jul 8 10:49:46 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:49:46 -0400 Subject: Test Message-ID: Just back from Vac. Seeing if I resubed properly Mike From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jul 8 11:12:54 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 15:12:54 -0000 Subject: Test Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From swann at CUGC.ORG Sun Jul 8 21:06:04 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 21:06:04 -0400 Subject: BOC: ST, AoF remasters Message-ID: Andy sez: > Well, I think the remastering is well worth it - both of > these sound very crisp and new, and a definite improvement. > (I expect Steve to say he thinks the original mastering was > better though :)) Sheesh, have a _little_ faith! ;-) I've always asserted that the older albums were in desperate need of remastering (BOC, ST, and Specters being the worst cases). Oddly enough, even though Tyranny is smack between two of the worst mastered albums, it didn't sound all that bad to me (the remaster does seem to have a little more crunch and a little more bottom end to it, though). Anyway, I've been unsubscribed from BOC-L for quite a while, since about mid-May, so I missed all the discussion surrounding these. I didn't even know they existed until I ran into them in a record store last night. Is the rest of the catalog forthcoming? Final note: the fact that they were mastered by Bruce Dickinson just about killed me. All I could think was, "I NEED MORE COW BELL!" -- Steve Swann | Speak to me in many voices, make them all swann at cugc.org | sound like one - Blue Oyster Cult From erics at TELEPRES.COM Sun Jul 8 21:34:16 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 21:34:16 -0400 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help In-Reply-To: <020101c10683$286ed880$9fed7bd5@bpnf001>; from rich@BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK on Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 02:21:31AM +0100 Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 02:21:31AM +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote: > We were thinking about doing a gig where all songs would be covers of songs > about wanking. She Bop (Cyndi Lauper) I can't think of any offhand, but it's hard to imagine Sparks *not* having done such a song :-) Likewise Cheap Trick. And arguably All I Have to Do is Dream (Everly Bros). It could be more innocent, but if you sing it in this context, nobody'll fail to get it... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Jul 9 01:46:18 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 06:46:18 +0100 Subject: BOC / HW: Test - ignore Message-ID: > > > 6. The lovely Gillian did me the great honour the other day of agreeing to > > become Mrs Lockwood. There's a picture of the most beautiful woman in the > > world > > Congrats! She's a doll!! Many thanks! (I think so!) :-) > > > > > 7. Since I've been living with the aforementioned Gillian, my stereo seems > > to have developed a major fault. I can be listening to "Quark, Strangeness > > and Charm", then I go to make Gill a coffee. I get back into the living > > room and discover that the stereo has mysteriously retuned itself to > > "Dancing Through The 80's With 'Disco' Bloody Danny Petroni". If anyone has > > any ideas for a fix, they'd be much appreciated. > > > I would suggest that anytime you leave the room, you take the lovely Gillian > with you, as the spirits that are futzing with the stereo are EVIL > INCARNATE!!!!! It wouldn't do to leave her unprotected. > To exorcise them, I would suggest a complete playing of all Hawkwind and BOC > music at full volume. The sonic onslaught of such superb music will drive > away any evil (disco) spirits. Always works for me! Right - I'll try that. I suppose I'd better do it all in chronological order just to be on the safe side. Then maybe the ghosts of Chaka Khan and Anita Ward will begone! :-) Cheers, Rich. From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Jul 9 03:27:37 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 03:27:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: Well if you wanted to go even further then ther's always the Regurgutator classic - "I Sucked A Lot Of Cock To Get Where I Am" or anything off the Marc Almond album "Mother Fist and The Five Fingers" Z From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Jul 9 03:32:53 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 03:32:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: Mike Watt writes about recording with Gov't Mule Message-ID: Well of course you should really all be signed up to my news list at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk (e-mail to info at zeitgeist-scot.co.uk gets you added if you bung News List in the subject line) but last week I reported that; Some of the top bassists in the rock and metal world will be appearing on the next album from Government Mule. John Paul Jones, Roger Glover, John Entwistle, Les Claypool, Chris Squire and Jack Bruce all guest on the record, the band's first since the death of four-stringer Allen Woody. The album will also include a guest spot from former Alice In Chains guitarist Jerry Cantrell. Z Subject: OFF: Mike Watt writes about recording with Gov't Mule (fwd) I don't know if folks know, but Gov't Mule are currently recording a new album featuring a whole boatload of famous bassists. Mike Watt is one of them. It seems from the diary extract below that they came ->THIS CLOSE<- to doing a cover of "The Red and the Black" for the album! Now wouldn't that've been ultra cool? Shame they went with the CCR. Maybe Warren got scared off by the weird lyrics (one of his stated reasons he doesn't do more Zappa)? I believe the album is due out sometime in September this year. It should be a monster. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 9 04:58:50 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 09:58:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkestra Tree Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Lee To: BOC-L Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 9:33 AM Subject: HW: Hawkestra Tree Could the details about the current state of the Hawkestra tree be resent to me, please. I'm accessing my mail remotely and don't have access to my old mails at the moment, but I'd like to get my end of this sorted out. Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused to anyone. Nick From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 9 06:00:19 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:00:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Warp In-Reply-To: Alastair Lee Sumner's message of Fri, 6 Jul 2001 17:42:11 -0400 Message-ID: Alastair Lee Sumner writes: > Hi, > I was curious as to whether any HW fans on this list have read 'The Warp' > by Neil Oram. It consists of 3 books, 'A Storm's Howling through > Tiflis', 'Lemmings on the Edge' and 'The Balustrade Paradox'. Ken Campbell > staged the play that apparently holds the Guiness record for the longest > play (24 hours). It seems like the kind of thing that at least one or two > HW fans might have read. I haven't seen it, but am a fan of ken Campbell and would see it if I got the chance. FoFP From john.cartledge at SUNDERLAND.AC.UK Mon Jul 9 06:19:31 2001 From: john.cartledge at SUNDERLAND.AC.UK (John Cartledge) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:19:31 +0100 Subject: HW:Weird 6 Message-ID: I ordered some cd's from Voiceprint the other week and asked about Weird 6 in the vain hope of maybe getting a copy. I was told that it was out of stock, but just about to be repressed. Anyway, much to my suprise, a copy landed on my doormat on Saturday morning. Anyway, for those on the list still looking, here are Voiceprints details: Voiceprint Mail Order, Freepost, DU409, PO Box 50, Houghton le Spring, Tyne & Wear, DH5 5YP Tel (Freephone UK): 0500 829262 E-mail: mailorder at voiceprint.co.uk Cheers John -- --------------------------------------------------------- Systems Programmer School Of Computing, Engineering & Technology University Of Sunderland St Peter's Campus St Peter's Way North Sands Sunderland Tyne & Wear Email : John.Cartledge at sunderland.ac.uk England Tel : 0191 5153638 Room : 207 --------------------------------------------------------- From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 9 06:47:54 2001 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:47:54 +0100 Subject: BOC / HW: Test - ignore Message-ID: I have a similar problem which will be partly excorcised by the playing of Hawkwind and Alan davey Cd,s at full volume tonight. sorry if you are my neighbours. >From: Joe Loehr >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: BOC / HW: Test - ignore >Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:03:16 EDT > >In a message dated 7/6/01 7:53:12 PM US Eastern Standard Time, >rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK writes: > > > > 6. The lovely Gillian did me the great honour the other day of agreeing >to > > become Mrs Lockwood. There's a picture of the most beautiful woman in >the > > world > >Congrats! She's a doll!! > > > > > 7. Since I've been living with the aforementioned Gillian, my stereo >seems > > to have developed a major fault. I can be listening to "Quark, >Strangeness > > and Charm", then I go to make Gill a coffee. I get back into the living > > room and discover that the stereo has mysteriously retuned itself to > > "Dancing Through The 80's With 'Disco' Bloody Danny Petroni". If anyone >has > > any ideas for a fix, they'd be much appreciated. > > >I would suggest that anytime you leave the room, you take the lovely >Gillian >with you, as the spirits that are futzing with the stereo are EVIL >INCARNATE!!!!! It wouldn't do to leave her unprotected. >To exorcise them, I would suggest a complete playing of all Hawkwind and >BOC >music at full volume. The sonic onslaught of such superb music will drive >away any evil (disco) spirits. Always works for me! > >Joe _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Mon Jul 9 07:01:16 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 06:01:16 -0500 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: Don't forget IGGY AND THE STOOGES-COCK IN MY POCKET!!! -----Original Message----- From: Joe Loehr [mailto:JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 9:05 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help In a message dated 7/6/01 8:22:00 PM US Eastern Standard Time, rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK writes: > We were thinking about doing a gig where all songs would be covers of songs > about wanking. > > What about The Who's 'Pictures of Lilly' Joe From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Jul 9 09:14:50 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 09:14:50 EDT Subject: OFF: BOC: New York State of reissues In-Reply-To: <200107062228.SAA12889@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 6 Jul 2001, at 18:28, Doug Pearson wrote: > Do BOC and the Ramones have anything else in common besides opening > for Dio- era Black Sabbath on subsequent tours Uh, just for the record, the Black and Blue tour featured both bands as co-headliners. Sabbath 'opened' for BOC on several of those shows, and this caused much acrimony in both camps, esp. the Sabbath camp... theo From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Jul 9 09:22:10 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 14:22:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: BOC: New York State of reissues In-Reply-To: <3B497609.25506.756250@localhost> Message-ID: > > > On 6 Jul 2001, at 18:28, Doug Pearson wrote: > > > Do BOC and the Ramones have anything else in common besides opening > > for Dio- era Black Sabbath on subsequent tours > Yep - they both have lead singers who are *much* taller than Ronnie James Dio... :-) Cheers, Rich. From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Jul 9 09:25:31 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 14:25:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: BOC: New York State of reissues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Yep - they both have lead singers who are *much* taller than Ronnie James > Dio... > But you could say that about just about any band - well, not Stereophonics, granted :) -- Andy ObCD: The Suffrajets - _Tread Carefully_ www.andygilham.com From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon Jul 9 09:50:24 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 09:50:24 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: The Surgeons in Raleigh Message-ID: > >>Curse of the Hidden Mirrors?? > >>Oh my god. That is.... well,..... unF*ckingbelievable. wow. Lucky you!:) Indeed! > >By the way , who sang? did dave Play the guitar on this tune? > > Albert sang and played guitar, IIRC, Deb was on drums and Dave > was on bass. > Again IIRC, Dave played guitar on D&S and tR&tB. And another tune > or two, but it's all a mite fuzzy. ;) Wow - so does Deb do the "Joe Bouchard bass break" at the end of tR&tB? Man, I wish the tBS could find a gig up here in Boston (according to Deb, they've had no luck dealing with a venue that has a clue - don't know where they've tried to play though now that Mama Kin is gone). Love to see them again (and wouldn't mind jamming with 'em on bass if they want to create that "wall of guitar" sound of years gone by...). John From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Mon Jul 9 10:25:37 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 10:25:37 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: The Surgeons in Raleigh Message-ID: >Wow - so does Deb do the "Joe Bouchard bass break" at the end of tR&tB? I loved the 5 guitars version of the end of the tune way back when. She probably did do the cool bass break. she's definitely building up her guitar chops. > >Man, I wish the tBS could find a gig up here in Boston (according to >Deb, they've had no luck dealing with a venue that has a clue - don't >know where they've tried to play though now that Mama Kin is gone). >Love to see them again (and wouldn't mind jamming with 'em on bass if >they want to create that "wall of guitar" sound of years gone by...). I wonder if they would have better luck getting a gig in Mass. version of liberal college's Mecca and Medina: Amherst and Northampton -- the Iron Horse is a cool place as a venue itself and for its acts. The Bevis Frond (a great gig that! did "Godspeed you to Earth" w/a wonderful heavy jam ending) and Robert Fripp have played there (separately). Of course, you could always have tBS operate in the manner of the Steppenwolf album title, "The Brain Surgeons at Your Birthday Party" heh. What is probably one of the best things about the Surgeons is that they are very willing to shuffle setlists around each tour/gig. Seriously, who would have thought they'd do an SFG tune! Say hello to Mr. Cottonmouth, Jason From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Jul 9 10:36:51 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 10:36:51 EDT Subject: BRAIN: The Surgeons in Raleigh In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F66F6@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: On 9 Jul 2001, at 10:25, Scruton, Jason wrote: > I wonder if they would have better luck getting a gig in Mass. version > of liberal college's Mecca and Medina: Amherst and Northampton -- the > Iron Horse is a cool place as a venue itself and for its acts. The > Bevis Frond (a great gig that! did "Godspeed you to Earth" w/a > wonderful heavy jam ending) and Robert Fripp have played there > (separately). > Hey, they promised another Syracuse show after Stylene's! The club's changed hands, but it's still a great venue for a tBS gig... Rochester's got a couple of good venues, c.f. the Bug Jar... Or, how 'bout something upstate, say the Clayton area for a homecoming gig? I'm seeing a trend here: upstate new york! theo From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Mon Jul 9 10:54:15 2001 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 10:54:15 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: The Surgeons in Raleigh In-Reply-To: <3B49B6A2.8C2EC1A2@mitre.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, John A. Swartz wrote: >> >>Curse of the Hidden Mirrors?? >> >>Oh my god. That is.... well,..... unF*ckingbelievable. wow. Lucky you!:) > >Indeed! *serene smile* >> Again IIRC, Dave played guitar on D&S and tR&tB. And another tune >> or two, but it's all a mite fuzzy. ;) > >Wow - so does Deb do the "Joe Bouchard bass break" at the end of tR&tB? I don't necessarily recall hearing it, but by that point things were a LOT fuzzy. The video camera was long since out of memory and I just headed off into nirvana after that. ;) I did remember to take a couple of stills during Astronomy, though. >Man, I wish the tBS could find a gig up here in Boston (according to >Deb, they've had no luck dealing with a venue that has a clue - don't >know where they've tried to play though now that Mama Kin is gone). >Love to see them again (and wouldn't mind jamming with 'em on bass if >they want to create that "wall of guitar" sound of years gone by...). I wish they could have, too, as I was in Boston the weekend they were trying to schedule a gig for. The friend I was visiting (I'm trying to convert her *g*) was Vary Vary Disappointed that the Boston club owners once again proved to be the flakiest in the world. (Next time I come up, John, we should do lunch.) -- Jean Lansford oystrgal at bellsouth.net You are the worst kind of parasite. The fact that you are fluffy only enhances the level of evil. - Justen, "Still in Love" For this and other stories, check out http://www.gamejag.com/Attic/ From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Jul 9 11:00:32 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:00:32 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: The Surgeons in Raleigh In-Reply-To: <3B498942.15590.C079E4@localhost> Message-ID: Theo wrote: > Hey, they promised another Syracuse show after Stylene's! The > club's changed hands, but it's still a great venue for a tBS gig... Agreed, and the owner would even recite a poem he wrote about the band as an introduction (or at least he did for Guided By Voices...) Oh, and there's always the 64 beers on tap at the Blue Tusk just a short walk away! > Rochester's got a couple of good venues, c.f. the Bug Jar... The Bug Jar is incredible, and not just for the kitchen and living room furniture hanging from the ceiling. I saw the Fleshtones there a couple of weeks ago and the energy was amazing, even with a smallish crowd. Milestones might be a better fit for the Surgeons though, especially as part of a 3-band combo or something similar. The Bug Jar is more indie rock in appeal, while Milestones has more of a hard rock/reggae/traditional bent. > Or, how 'bout something upstate, say the Clayton area for a > homecoming gig? A summer show at Alex Bay would be killer. A little sunshine, a little shoreline, a little scotch on the rocks, a little Surgeons, what could be better? > I'm seeing a trend here: upstate new york! Well, they were originally looking for a gig in Rochester or Buffalo, but apparently that fell through since they're playing in Cleveland instead. You have to remember, this tour is their summer vacation too. It's no fun vacationing in the same place all the time.... Brian obGigMoments> The Fleshtones playing a sped-up Communication Breakdown flowing into the ending of Whole Lotta Love (at the same breakneck speed). And later when they were standing on the bar and playing (in another room), while the drummer remained on stage wailing away. -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Mon Jul 9 11:01:37 2001 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:01:37 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: The Surgeons in Raleigh In-Reply-To: <518ECB498B81754EA93EE1DF5CD8C492035F66F6@sdfy2.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, "Scruton, Jason" wrote: >Of course, you could always have tBS operate in the manner of the >Steppenwolf album title, "The Brain Surgeons at Your Birthday Party" heh. Don't tempt me. 8) >What is probably one of the best things about the Surgeons is that they are >very willing to shuffle setlists around each tour/gig. Heh. For about three songs in a row (after strings started breaking) Deb and Dave were just standing around waiting for Albert to tell them what song they were doing next. He kept wandering around the stage repeating "We know lots of songs!" They got to puzzle it out from the opening bars. *eg* >Seriously, who would have thought they'd do an SFG tune! Al jumped about ten feet in the air when he asked if anyone had bought the SFG reissue and about half the audience cheered. -- Jean Lansford oystrgal at bellsouth.net You are the worst kind of parasite. The fact that you are fluffy only enhances the level of evil. - Justen, "Still in Love" For this and other stories, check out http://www.gamejag.com/Attic/ From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Mon Jul 9 11:12:42 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:12:42 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: The Surgeons in "nobody rocks like Upstate NY rocks" Message-ID: >Or, how 'bout something upstate, say the Clayton area for a >homecoming gig? In the early days, they used to do that. The bar was called O'Brien's (or something similar) if my memory hasn't failed me. If they did, maybe could tempt them to sing the Camp Bouchard anthem again. Although if they played up there, would be cool to see a reunion of the Regal Tones open for 'em :) (bonus BOC trivia points on that one, no?) >I'm seeing a trend here: upstate new york! There's only one cool place in Albany left, and that is Valentine's. Mike Watt has played there twice within the last year and a half. Speaking of him, he played tRandtB, and some audients shouted BOC. Nice. (he also played renditions of TV Eye by the Stooges and Sleater Kinney's All hands on the Bad One.) Guided by Voices, Bad Brains (the renamed incarnation, is it Soul Brains?) have played there recently, too. Second best is in Clifton Park, bout 30 mins. north, where BOC played a few times (Theo and Mike H know of where I speak), as have Motorhead.But that place is odd and Molson's sponsored..... a lot of strange 80's hair metal of late and, get this, Colin Hay of Men at Work and Vanilla Ice have been booked there for summertime gigs. Who says Rock and Roll is dead? (smirk) the QE2 and Bogies, where tBS played on past tour of duties, have changed hands and become The Fuse Box and 515 or something respectively. Both dance oriented clubs this day and age (sigh). Fuse Box has booked *some* bands, but nothing of the rock persuasion. and that ends today's rock venue report. As the Ramones said, "Stay tuned for more rock and roll." Beware of stations with mottos like "classic rock that really rocks" -- does that mean they play "Fly like an Eagle" AND "Abra Cadabra?" Such daring! Jason PS: Very cool about tBS gig. Its' good they know lots of things. Knowledge is power after all. From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Mon Jul 9 14:28:43 2001 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (Tono Detruisto) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:28:43 -0500 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: > covers of songs about wanking. Pink Thing (XTC) Orgy of One (The Meatmen) -Hogard From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Mon Jul 9 15:25:56 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:25:56 -0700 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: I'm really surprised that as of yet no-one's mentioned Devo's "Jerkin' Back and Forth"..... scorch From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jul 9 15:27:27 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:27:27 -0400 Subject: HW:Weird 6 Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:19:31 +0100, John Cartledge wrote: >I ordered some cd's from Voiceprint the other week and asked about Weird >6 in the vain hope of maybe getting a copy. I was told that it was out >of stock, but just about to be repressed. Anyway, much to my suprise, a >copy landed on my doormat on Saturday morning. Whoa! Excellent news if this is true! Can anyone (Andy G?) confirm that it's actually being re-pressed (or did they just manage to dig out another copy from behind somebody's desk)? -Doug (who owns Weird 1-5, but not 6) jasret at mindspring.com From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Mon Jul 9 15:56:47 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:56:47 -0400 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: And also, DEVO's "Praying Hands". -----Original Message----- From: John H. McCartney [SMTP:scorch at TE-CATS.COM] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 12:26 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help I'm really surprised that as of yet no-one's mentioned Devo's "Jerkin' Back and Forth"..... scorch From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Mon Jul 9 17:06:22 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 17:06:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: The Warp Message-ID: I think it's very likely that it is the same guy. The books are fictional but I heard on an online radio documentary that they are based on the author's own life. The main character is a poet and part of the second book is based in a Yorkshire village. Alastair. On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:08:31 +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >I quote from Lost In The Woods: > >"There was one last brief happy interlude, when Syd, Susie and Peter went to >visit poet Neil Oram in his country cottage. Syd, in comfortable unpressured >surroundings reminiscent of Earlham Street, with the same friendly faces, >was able to shake loose the catatonia and relax. His smile returned as they >sat around a hearth fire in the ancient cottage, seated on the floor as the >autumnal evening fell. But Syd's smile masked a growing fear and >uncertainty. He was unhappy". > >There is a further reference to 'beams' and 'cabbages' in Pete Anderson's >biography of Syd, but I don't have it to hand. > >Captain Bl at ck. > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Alastair Lee Sumner >To: >Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:32 AM >Subject: Re: OFF: The Warp > > >> Close...I've read that he lives up at Loch Ness in Scotland. Not sure >about >> the Syd Barrett references, I'd be interested though. >> >> Alastair. >> >> On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 09:31:50 +0100, Captain Bl at ck >> wrote: >> >> >Neil Oram? Wasn't he the guy who lived in a remote Yorkshire cottage >> because >> >the cabbages told him to? >> > >> >I'm sure I've seen references to him in relation to Syd Barrett, who >stayed >> >at his abode once during his later Pink Floyd period - apparently hanging >> >from the beams. >> > >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: Alastair Lee Sumner >> >To: >> >Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 10:42 PM >> >Subject: OFF: The Warp >> > >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> I was curious as to whether any HW fans on this list have read 'The >Warp' >> >> by Neil Oram. It consists of 3 books, 'A Storm's Howling through >> >> Tiflis', 'Lemmings on the Edge' and 'The Balustrade Paradox'. Ken >> Campbell >> >> staged the play that apparently holds the Guiness record for the >longest >> >> play (24 hours). It seems like the kind of thing that at least one or >two >> >> HW fans might have read. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Alastair. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jul 9 16:31:07 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 16:31:07 -0400 Subject: OFF: Alchemysts US tour Message-ID: Holy Crap! I just found out about this tour five minutes ago, just randomly checking the local bar listings, as I commonly do. This is really the first 'serious' thing I caught in seven years of doing it though! The show here (first of the tour I guess) is tomorrow night! Yikes, that was close. Anyway, these dates are from the Rubric site, and it looks like the end of the tour has still got some holes. It also mentions difficulties in getting visas on the site, so if they don't show tomorrow night, I'll know why! And I'll let you all know. Check 'em out...this is a good psych guitar band, in the Bevis/Woronzow family! Dunno Aytobach Kreisor...sounds German tho'. Could be interesting! IIRC, the Alchemysts toured Europe with Bevis about two years ago, so they could be German I guess. Grakkl (FAA) Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor High Five, 1227 N. High St., Columbus, OH Tuesday July 10, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor South Gate House, 24 E. 3rd St., Newport, KY Wednesday July 11, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Loft Party, 1348 W. 18th, Chicago, IL Thursday July 12, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Hairy Mary's, 2307 University Ave., Des Moines, IA Friday July 13, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Knickerbockers, 901 O St., Lincoln, NE Tuesday July 17, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor 15th St. Tavern, 623 15th St., Denver, CO Wednesday July 18, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Jay's Upstairs, 119 W. Main, Missoula, MT Friday July 20, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Graceland, 109 Eastlake Ave. E., Seattle, WA Saturday July 21, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Club Satyricon, 125 NW Sixth Ave., Portland, OR Sunday July 22, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Zephyr Bar, 1074 South Virginia St, Reno, NV Wednesday July 25, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Capitol Garage Coffee Co., 1427 L St., Sacramento, CA Thursday July 26, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor House Party, Davis, CA Saturday July 27, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Knitting Factory, 7021 Hollywood Blvd., Los Angeles, CA Sunday July 29, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Solar Gallery, Tuscon, AZ Monday July 30, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Green Room, Oklahoma City, OK Wednesday August 1, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor T.T. The Bears, 10 Brookline St., Cambridge, MA Thursday August 9, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Knitting Factory, 74 Leonard St., New York, NY Sunday August 12, 2001 From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jul 9 16:35:08 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 16:35:08 -0400 Subject: OFF: U. of Errors tour Message-ID: First dates I've seen for this tour. Daevid Allen's University of Errors/Analogue II Khyber, Philadelphia, PA Tuesday August 21, 2001 Palomas, Baltimore, MD Wednesday August 22, 2001 Millvale Industrial Theater, Pittsburgh, PA Thursday August 23, 2001 Schubas, Chicago, IL Saturday August 25, 2001 More to come surely... Grakkl (FAA) From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Jul 9 18:00:27 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 18:00:27 -0400 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: ...and get yourself a female singer and you can do joan osborne's `right hand man,!! tim Stephen Lindas wrote: > > Don't forget IGGY AND THE STOOGES-COCK IN MY POCKET!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Loehr [mailto:JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM] > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 9:05 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help > > > In a message dated 7/6/01 8:22:00 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK writes: > > > > We were thinking about doing a gig where all songs would be covers of > songs > > about wanking. > > > > > > What about The Who's 'Pictures of Lilly' > > Joe From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jul 9 18:32:57 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 08:02:57 +0930 Subject: Birmingham - Hawkwind Message-ID: Hi Hawk friends Can someone please tell me when and where to get tickets for the 8th November Hawkwind concert Thanks in advance Michael B From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Jul 9 22:25:59 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 22:25:59 -0400 Subject: OFF: sci-fi nostalgia Message-ID: My last message was rejected as spam! Problems with the auto-blocking of email address domains ... Posted from the list page: http://listserv.spc.edu/archives/boc-l.html Message: Gang! Was anyone ever into this Terrahawks sci-fi series? It was a trip. ;) http://www.fab1.net/t-hawks/terrahawks.html Karen From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jul 10 01:17:42 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:17:42 +0800 Subject: OFF: sci-fi nostalgia Message-ID: Hi there Yep, & I've still got some episodes on tape. It was different to previous Gerry Anderson shows, being very much tongue in cheek. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kusic" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:25 AM Subject: OFF: sci-fi nostalgia > My last message was rejected as spam! Problems with the auto-blocking of > email address domains ... Posted from the list page: > > http://listserv.spc.edu/archives/boc-l.html > > Message: > > Gang! > > Was anyone ever into this Terrahawks sci-fi series? It was a trip. ;) > > http://www.fab1.net/t-hawks/terrahawks.html > > Karen > From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jul 10 04:46:20 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:46:20 +0100 Subject: Subject: Spacehead gig Message-ID: Blank s p a c e h e a d B U R L I N G T O N S M A R K E T P L A C E, B U X T O N S U N D A Y 15TH J U L Y 2001 6. PM F R E E ! M O R E D E T A I L S- ian at glo7.freeserve.co.uk From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 10 05:37:19 2001 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Beautiful Foot) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:37:19 +0100 Subject: BOC: BOC fan on the writing staff of Andromeda? Message-ID: "Starry Wisdom" is from Lovecraft, which dates it to the late 1920's, early 1930's. I think it's the most obvious example of Perlman borrowing from Lovecraft. Doesn't make it wrong though..... C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Perry" To: Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: Re: BOC: BOC fan on the writing staff of Andromeda? > The Great Cthulhu Starry Wisdom band? Pops up in Illuminatus and other > Robert Anton Wilson books, as does the phrase Starry Wisdom in general. > DOn't know the relative dates to know which one came first. > > --- > Kevin Perry > Sonic Energy Authority > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bolts of Ungodly Vision > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 12:42 AM > Subject: BOC: BOC fan on the writing staff of Andromeda? > > > > Sadly, was watching the show while eating ravioli (which tasted good) and > > they had a "ship" called the Starry Wisdom.. I doubt that particular > phrase > > appears too often outside of Imaginos, eh? > > > > rah rah shish boom bah > > Jason > From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jul 10 05:49:19 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:49:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies Message-ID: Delia Derbyshire, the musician who first realised Dick Grainger's theme tune for Dr Who, as one of the first fully electronic signature tunes recorded died last week. I find it hard to believe that the original version of the Dr Who music, that captured the imaginations of so many of us in our youths, cannot have been a great influence on the likes of Del Detmar, Dik Mik and Dave. A full obituary can be found at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4217621,00.html Nick From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jul 10 10:01:05 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:01:05 +0800 Subject: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies Message-ID: She also worked on the superb first album by White Noise. Worth grabbing if you ever come across it! William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:49 PM Subject: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies Delia Derbyshire, the musician who first realised Dick Grainger's theme tune for Dr Who, as one of the first fully electronic signature tunes recorded died last week. I find it hard to believe that the original version of the Dr Who music, that captured the imaginations of so many of us in our youths, cannot have been a great influence on the likes of Del Detmar, Dik Mik and Dave. A full obituary can be found at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4217621,00.html Nick From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jul 10 10:15:54 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:15:54 -0500 Subject: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies Message-ID: What kind of music is WHITE NOISE? I never heard of them. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: William Duffy [mailto:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies She also worked on the superb first album by White Noise. Worth grabbing if you ever come across it! William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:49 PM Subject: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies Delia Derbyshire, the musician who first realised Dick Grainger's theme tune for Dr Who, as one of the first fully electronic signature tunes recorded died last week. I find it hard to believe that the original version of the Dr Who music, that captured the imaginations of so many of us in our youths, cannot have been a great influence on the likes of Del Detmar, Dik Mik and Dave. A full obituary can be found at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4217621,00.html Nick From m.french at SHEFFIELD.AC.UK Tue Jul 10 10:40:12 2001 From: m.french at SHEFFIELD.AC.UK (Merrick French) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:40:12 +0100 Subject: Birmingham - Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <00c001c108c7$1aba0fc0$85cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On 10 Jul 01, at 8:02, Mich at el B wrote: > Hi Hawk friends > > Can someone please tell me when and where to get tickets for the 8th November Hawkwind concert > > Thanks in advance > > Michael B I'm confused!! I know that easy but The 8th November, at Birmingham is this an all day thing with the Ozrics? Is the date right? The 8th November is a THURSDAY, not a good day!! Can someone help......pleeeeese Love light and peace Julie and Merrick From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jul 10 10:29:47 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:29:47 +0800 Subject: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies Message-ID: The later albums were more in the style of Tangerine Dream, whereas the first album is rather hard to describe. It uses the same techniques that the BBC Radiophonic Workshop used back in the 60's, with lots of sampled sounds being processed. One of the tracks from this album was used on the soundtrack to the Hammer film Dracula Ad 1972. It's the music used when the young people are having a s?ance in the ruins of an old church. White Noise is David Vorhaus, & he has others working with him on occasions as well. The first album also has Brian Hodgson on it (another member of the BBC Radiophonic Workshop), & was released around 1969. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lindas" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:15 PM Subject: Re: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies > What kind of music is WHITE NOISE? I never heard of them. STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Duffy [mailto:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:01 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies > > > She also worked on the superb first album by White Noise. Worth grabbing if > you ever come across it! > > William > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nick Lee" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:49 PM > Subject: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies > > > Delia Derbyshire, the musician who first realised Dick Grainger's theme tune > for Dr Who, as one of the first fully electronic signature tunes recorded > died last week. I find it hard to believe that the original version of the > Dr Who music, that captured the imaginations of so many of us in our youths, > cannot have been a great influence on the likes of Del Detmar, Dik Mik and > Dave. > A full obituary can be found at: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4217621,00.html > > Nick > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jul 10 13:58:49 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:58:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: Bowie book Message-ID: Had to share this one with you: BOWIE'S NEW BOOK BREAKS THE BANK David Bowie's limited edition autographed book - 'Moon Age Daydream: The Life & Times of Ziggy Stardust' - will soon be available from Genesis Publishing. The bad news is, it will cost around ?280. The book, which was assembled by Bowie and photographer Mick Rock, was conceived to coincide with the upcoming 30th anniversary of Bowie's album 'The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars'. Only 2,500 copies are being printed. 'Moon Age Daydream' features text from Bowie and Rock as well as many rare and previously unseen photos, including pictures of memorabilia such as handwritten lyrics. -------------------- To me when an artist of this stature does this, he: a) proves he doesn't give one almighty toss about his fan base b) his career must be in a mess if he's reduced to this c) if it isn't, let's hope it soon will be Andy Garibaldi P.S. Don't get any ideas Adrian!!! From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jul 10 14:07:24 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:07:24 +0100 Subject: HW:Weird 6 Message-ID: sorry - can't confirm but will check it out - if so, then someone has now agreed to the renewed royalty payment system as that was what the arguments were about, so it wouldn't surprise me. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:27 PM Subject: Re: HW:Weird 6 > On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:19:31 +0100, John Cartledge > wrote: > >I ordered some cd's from Voiceprint the other week and asked about Weird > >6 in the vain hope of maybe getting a copy. I was told that it was out > >of stock, but just about to be repressed. Anyway, much to my suprise, a > >copy landed on my doormat on Saturday morning. > > Whoa! Excellent news if this is true! Can anyone (Andy G?) confirm that > it's actually being re-pressed (or did they just manage to dig out another > copy from behind somebody's desk)? > > -Doug (who owns Weird 1-5, but not 6) > jasret at mindspring.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jul 10 13:59:17 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:59:17 EDT Subject: OFF: Bowie book In-Reply-To: <016b01c1096c$4ca0a940$750abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On 10 Jul 2001, at 18:58, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: b) > his career must be in a mess if he's reduced to this c) if it isn't, > let's hope it soon will be Andy Garibaldi P.S. Don't get any ideas > Adrian!!! His career may be in a mess artistically, but he's loaded beyond belief--one of the wealthiest musicians anywhere, just a notch or 2 behind Sir Paul. I suspect he's doing this simply because he can! theo From laura.waesche at CEXP.COM Tue Jul 10 14:09:52 2001 From: laura.waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:09:52 -0500 Subject: OFF: Bowie book Message-ID: His career may be in a mess artistically, but he's loaded beyond belief--one of the wealthiest musicians anywhere, just a notch or 2 behind Sir Paul. I suspect he's doing this simply because he can! Don't forget the (a) part though. I'm in complete agreement here! The little people should be able to have access to that information as well! And putting out something in that limited release at that price definitely says something about the state of Mr. Bowie's ego. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jul 10 15:24:23 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:24:23 EDT Subject: OFF: Bowie book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10 Jul 2001, at 13:09, Laura Waesche wrote: > His career may be in a mess artistically, but he's loaded beyond > belief--one of the wealthiest musicians anywhere, just a notch or 2 > behind Sir Paul. I suspect he's doing this simply because he can! > > Don't forget the (a) part though. I'm in complete agreement here! The > little people should be able to have access to that information as > well! And putting out something in that limited release at that price > definitely says something about the state of Mr. Bowie's ego. Maybe the Thin White Duke and Ginger Baker ought to put a project together! theo From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 10 17:36:31 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:36:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Camping at Canterbury - Saturday 18 August Message-ID: Dunno if anyone is interested in this but I've done some checking in various guidebooks to try and find what nearby facilities are available as campsites for the Canterbury Mount Ephraim Gardens gig. Sadly there isn't much. On the OS map there's a caravan symbol at a small village called Dunkirk (not the WW2 one). This is only a mile or so from the gig but since I can't find it in any of the guides I suspect that it's for static caravans only and won't do overnight camping (i.e. tents) The guide books have a Caravan and Camping site at Painters Forstal Farm just outside Faversham. It is described as a delightful site, immaculately kept but advance booking is advisable and it would mean a 3 or 4 mile walk to get to Mount Ephraim Gardens There are campsites just outside Canterbury but you'll need to catch a bus or train to get to the gig. There's a caravan site in Graveney about 3 miles north of Mount Ephraim but this again may be caravans only There are 3 or 4 sites on the coast at Whitstable (about 4 miles to the north of Mount Ephraim) but you'll probably have to walk to the site since buses will most likely be going east to Canterbury rather than west but it's country roads and could be quite interesting. Also I'm sure Whitstable, being a coastal resort, will be well stocked with taxis. Apart from that it's B&B in Cantebury I guess. If anyone wants addresses for these places let me know, or, if I get a chance I'll post a list of all of them and people can take pot luck - or whatever. cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Tue Jul 10 19:45:35 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:45:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: HW: Paul Chain - Sign from Space Message-ID: >Grakkl (FAA) >ObCDinthemailtoday: Paul Chain - Sign from Space (Vinyl Magic/Beard of >Stars) - how do the others compare? > I see you got this one - I'm curious what you think of it? If you adjust for the more modern, slightly slicker production and the digital synths, this to me almost has the feel of Hawkwind jamming during the Doremi sessions - the kind of thing that DB might then edit down into a song for release. I did some searching on the web for Paul Chain, and apparently he's been around a while, playing in a doom metal band called Death SS, and continually working with various other people, maybe some experimental stuff, sort of Italy's answer to Justin Broadrick. I'm also wondering what his other material sounds like, but there seems to be a lot of it (very varied too) - I'll wait and see if I can find out a bit more before trying to get a hold of any of it. Stephan From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Tue Jul 10 19:37:17 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:37:17 +0200 Subject: off: fullmoon - euphoria In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20010710234535.006da878@pop.pipeline.com> Message-ID: was just listening to this cd of fullmoon which is called euphoria. still think it's great space guitar music. does anyone have some more information about this band. did they have more releases ? andre From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Tue Jul 10 20:13:25 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:13:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bowie book Message-ID: Ted Jackson wrote: > > On 10 Jul 2001, at 18:58, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > > b) > > his career must be in a mess if he's reduced to this c) if it isn't, > > let's hope it soon will be Andy Garibaldi P.S. Don't get any ideas > > Adrian!!! > > His career may be in a mess artistically, but he's loaded beyond > belief--one of the wealthiest musicians anywhere, just a notch or 2 > behind Sir Paul. I suspect he's doing this simply because he can! theo I vote for `a'. if you remember,he made a big deal about selling shares so his fans could invest and get something back... then all the shares were bought by 1 insurance(i believe) company-as if they needed the extra money and cared about david bowie musically. having read some bowie bios, the underlying theme seems to be that he uses anyone to the extent that they can be used and then are cast off. one book even had a picture froma a concert during the `modern love' tour,and no-one knew who one of the guitarists was because there was no record of him in any of the concert info!! heathcliff > > theo From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Jul 10 21:47:40 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:47:40 EDT Subject: OFF:Psi-Fi/ Seventh Wave Message-ID: Does anyone have info on a late 70s synth combo called 7th Wave and their album Psi-Fi or visa versa? Regards, Bill 'polish those rockets and swallow those pills' Stewart MOnster Magnet tomorrow Roseland NYC From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jul 11 03:24:27 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:24:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies Message-ID: > The later albums were more in the style of Tangerine Dream, whereas the > first album is rather hard to describe. It uses the same techniques that the > BBC Radiophonic Workshop used back in the 60's, with lots of sampled sounds > being processed. > > One of the tracks from this album was used on the soundtrack to the Hammer > film Dracula Ad 1972. It's the music used when the young people are having a > s?ance in the ruins of an old church. > > White Noise is David Vorhaus, & he has others working with him on occasions > as well. The first album also has Brian Hodgson on it (another member of the > BBC Radiophonic Workshop), & was released around 1969. > I'd never heard of White Noise before, I'll certainly check them out. I remember HW being described somewhere once as a 'BBC radiophonic workshop weekend band'. I don't think it was necessarily a compliment but sounded good to me! Incidentally a 60's Dr Who soundtrack was a recommended album of the month in the NME sometime back! Nick From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Wed Jul 11 04:14:27 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 03:14:27 -0500 Subject: OFF:Psi-Fi/ Seventh Wave Message-ID: I have a 7th wave album, bought it for the weird looking cover, the guy with the goggles I believe. I can't remember what it sounded like, so it probably wasn't that good to me. I have a 5 disc prog rock cd set, probably by rhino or somebody like that, 7th wave has a track on there too. If you're really interested I could dig out the album. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Stewart" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 8:47 PM Subject: OFF:Psi-Fi/ Seventh Wave > Does anyone have info on a late 70s synth combo called 7th Wave and their > album Psi-Fi or visa versa? > > Regards, > Bill 'polish those rockets and swallow those pills' Stewart > > MOnster Magnet tomorrow Roseland NYC > From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Wed Jul 11 06:08:24 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:08:24 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 10 Jul 2001 to 11 Jul 2001 (#2001-278) Message-ID: Would that have been Electric Heat ? I only ask because it's only album I've ever seen and that was many many many moons past. Mark (Hasbeen) ----- Original ----- Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:01:05 +0800 From: William Duffy Subject: Re: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies She also worked on the superb first album by White Noise. Worth grabbing if you ever come across it! William From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Wed Jul 11 06:49:08 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:49:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: White Noise (was Re: BOC-L Digest - 10 Jul 2001 to 11 Jul 2001 (#2001-278)) Message-ID: Mark (Hasbeen) asked: >Would that have been Electric Heat ? I only ask because >it's only album I've ever seen and that was many many many >moons past. Almost. The first album is "An Electric Storm" and is well worth getting hold of (but it *is* extremely odd). Hard to describe, so I'll quote the blurb from the sleeve: "Many sounds have never been heard - by humans: some sound waves you don't hear - but they reach you. 'Storm-stereo' techniques combine singers, instrumentalists and complex electronic sound. The emotional intensity is at a maximum." I kid you not. Says it all, really! Don't know if it ever made it to CD. I also have the second album - the imaginatively-titled "White Noise II" (circa 1975, I think). I haven't heard this in years but recall it being absolutely dreadful. There is also a White Noise III from the 80's (or 90's?) I believe, but I never bothered with that given the travesty of the second. Hope that helps. Dave From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Wed Jul 11 06:44:20 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:44:20 +0200 Subject: HW: Paul Chain Message-ID: Hej, I also have recently picked up this Paul Chain CD and some it is very nice early 70's HW influenced space rock for sure. As for Paul's other stuff, Death SS were a very good metal band, if you liked heavy metal bands at this time. His solo stuff is very different. Some is very metal, some is very slow and doomy and some is very gothic almost. He also has some totally experimental stuff, which is just wierd sounds and things. He does a lot of things, most quite well, but he for sure will not be appreicated by everyone. My major complaint with his stuff is it is often not that well recorded. scott ObCD: Jody Grind- Far Canal (UK 1970) From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Wed Jul 11 09:11:42 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 07:11:42 -0600 Subject: White Noise (was Re: BOC-L Digest - 10 Jul 2001 to 11 Jul 2001 (#2001-278)) In-Reply-To: <00c301c109f7$28f37320$1e209dc3@merlinas> Message-ID: I recall hearing or reading that the claim was made to the effect that the musical climax was so intense that the synthesizer transcended human control & played by itself. I probably still have the vinyl somewhere in the vault (i.e.. garage.) Mark L -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Dave Bottomley Subject: OFF: White Noise (was Re: BOC-L Digest - 10 Jul 2001 to 11 Jul 2001 (#2001-278)) Almost. The first album is "An Electric Storm" and is well worth getting hold of (but it *is* extremely odd). Hard to describe, so I'll quote the blurb from the sleeve: "Many sounds have never been heard - by humans: some sound waves you don't hear - but they reach you. 'Storm-stereo' techniques combine singers, instrumentalists and complex electronic sound. The emotional intensity is at a maximum." From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Jul 11 09:53:49 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:53:49 +0800 Subject: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies Message-ID: > I'd never heard of White Noise before, I'll certainly check them out. > I remember HW being described somewhere once as a 'BBC radiophonic workshop > weekend band'. I don't think it was necessarily a compliment but sounded > good to me! > Incidentally a 60's Dr Who soundtrack was a recommended album of the month > in the NME sometime back! > It could be the one with a lot of 60's & early 70's tunes based on the series, including songs by stars of the series, such as Jon Pertwee? William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Jul 11 09:54:50 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:54:50 +0800 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 10 Jul 2001 to 11 Jul 2001 (#2001-278) Message-ID: It's called Electric Storm In Hell. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Lee" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 6:08 PM Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 10 Jul 2001 to 11 Jul 2001 (#2001-278) > Would that have been Electric Heat ? I only ask because > it's only album I've ever seen and that was many many many > moons past. > > Mark (Hasbeen) > > > ----- Original ----- > > Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:01:05 +0800 > From: William Duffy > Subject: Re: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies > > She also worked on the superb first album by White Noise. Worth grabbing if > you ever come across it! > > William > From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jul 11 09:59:53 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:59:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies Message-ID: I'm pretty certain it was a score from a specific story, but can't remember which. Nick > > > It could be the one with a lot of 60's & early 70's tunes based on the > series, including songs by stars of the series, such as Jon Pertwee? > > William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Jul 11 10:03:21 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:03:21 +0800 Subject: OFF: White Noise (was Re: BOC-L Digest - 10 Jul 2001 to 11 Jul 2001 (#2001-278)) Message-ID: > >Would that have been Electric Heat ? I only ask because > >it's only album I've ever seen and that was many many many > >moons past. > > Almost. The first album is "An Electric Storm" and is well worth getting > hold of (but it *is* extremely odd). Hard to describe, so I'll quote the > blurb from the sleeve: > > "Many sounds have never been heard - by humans: some sound waves you don't > hear - but they reach you. 'Storm-stereo' techniques combine singers, > instrumentalists and complex electronic sound. The emotional intensity is at > a maximum." > > I kid you not. Says it all, really! Don't know if it ever made it to CD. I > also have the second album - the imaginatively-titled "White Noise II" > (circa 1975, I think). The full title was "White Noise II - Concerto For Synthesizer by David Vorhaus" > I haven't heard this in years but recall it being > absolutely dreadful. There is also a White Noise III from the 80's (or > 90's?) I believe, but I never bothered with that given the travesty of the > second. Hope that helps. > The 3rd album, "Re-Entry", came out in 1980, & I quite like it (bought the 2nd one after, but probably only heard it once or twice?). "Re-Entry" is more in the style of Larry Fast's Synergy albums, & had one track in particular, "Time Traveller", that would make a great replacement theme for "Doctor Who". I believe there is also a fourth album (and maybe even fifth?) William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Jul 11 10:11:17 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:11:17 +0800 Subject: OFF: BBC sound pioneer dies Message-ID: They released soundtracks to 2 60's stories, "The Tenth Planet" & "Tomb Of The Cybermen". It's probably the latter one, as it was particularly good, & the other has only been released in the last few months. William > I'm pretty certain it was a score from a specific story, but can't remember > which. > > Nick > > > > > > It could be the one with a lot of 60's & early 70's tunes based on the > > series, including songs by stars of the series, such as Jon Pertwee? > > > > William > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jul 11 10:53:19 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:53:19 -0400 Subject: OFF: "Alchemysts" report Message-ID: Well, it figures. Just my luck. The Alchemysts were apparently hanging out in NY waiting for their visas to come in, and so they are missing the first two shows of the tour. And of course, those are the only two I could easily go to. I did turn up to the High Five last night, and discovered right away that Aytobach Kreisor (Rubric labelmates from NYC I learned) was actually there and thought that looked promising for the Alchemysts actually making it as well. But I soon discovered that was not to be. But I still hung around as Rubric is a good label, mostly for being a Woronzow bridge to the USA, and thought maybe Kreisor might be worth hanging around for. The night started strangely as a band from San Diego whose name (I think) was "Drop Science" jumped up at 10:40 PM, and produced a half-hour's worth of featureless loud music....not really punk, nor stoner, nor metal....kinda in between and so rather forgetful. Then after a short break, a different trio of lads climbed up there with a bunch of interesting things including a trash can and two bright lights that backlit the stage from our perspective. The opening six minutes or so was really cool, very throbbing hypnotic synthetic beats and strange noises (guitars played with drumsticks a la glissando) and loopy things added, very much like the stuff on Faust's "Ravvivando" (surprisingly good album). However, that was just the intro (sigh), and the rest of their performance was quite obnoxious industrial music with way too many loud shrieky noises. I think they were called Champagne Kiss (odd name for the type of band they were), and said something about Minneapolis, MN (I assume their hometown)...and there I was missing Joe Mays pitch a perfect inning at the time! :( (Go Twins.) So then Aytobach Kreisor set up and went on at quite a late hour. Probably 12:45 or so. They were a solid power trio band with not much in the way of psychedelia. The drummer was able to do a lot of things, but wasn't particularly sound fundamentally-speaking, so the band was a little loose now and again. But mainly they were just too 'ordinary' for my tastes, but to this point the best group of the night. The strange thing was that the audience (perhaps maxing out at 40 for Champagne Kiss) all drifted out to the back patio and hardly anyone stayed to see them play. This club is normally for the goth crowd (the owner runs a record store just down the street, which is very goth-industrial-oriented...wear black and bits of face-metal with lots of tattoos, and you'll fit right in). Anyway, after their set I learned that indeed the Alchemysts were not there, and sadly would not be in Cincy tonight either (I would have driven down there tonight to see them if so, since it's only 90 minutes and the SouthGate House is a cool place to see a show.) But the AK guy said they should meet up with them tomorrow in Chicago. F*ing annoying I tell you. Well, perhaps that big eight-day gap between Oklahoma and Boston will include a show in Cleveland's Speaking-in-Tongues. I'll keep checking the RubricRecords.com site for any additional dates. Finally, there was one final band that went on at the amazing hour of 1:40 AM. They were actually supposed to be the first band of three (the other two being the Rubric bands), and were local to Columbus. I didn't catch their name, but they were a kinda melodic folkrock trio with keyboards, guitar and an odd drumkit with bongos in place of toms. I actually thought they were the best of the four groups, but I only stayed until 2 AM - not sure how long they played. Everyone came back in from outside so they ended up with a decent group of folks hanging around. I guess what happened is that the first two bands were touring together, came into Columbus to find that the club they were scheduled to play had actually closed down in the last few days (never heard of the place), and so somehow managed to sneak onto the evening's lineup (to the dismay of Aytobach Kreisor) at the High Five. Whatever the case, it was an odd grouping of four completely disparate groups. And no bloody Alchemysts! :( Grakkl (FAA) Alchemysts(NOPE)/Aytobach Kreisor High Five, 1227 N. High St., Columbus, OH Tuesday July 10, 2001 Alchemysts(NOPE)/Aytobach Kreisor South Gate House, 24 E. 3rd St., Newport, KY Wednesday July 11, 2001 Alchemysts(YEP)/Aytobach Kreisor Loft Party, 1348 W. 18th, Chicago, IL Thursday July 12, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Hairy Mary's, 2307 University Ave., Des Moines, IA Friday July 13, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Knickerbockers, 901 O St., Lincoln, NE Tuesday July 17, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor 15th St. Tavern, 623 15th St., Denver, CO Wednesday July 18, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Jay's Upstairs, 119 W. Main, Missoula, MT Friday July 20, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Graceland, 109 Eastlake Ave. E., Seattle, WA Saturday July 21, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Club Satyricon, 125 NW Sixth Ave., Portland, OR Sunday July 22, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Zephyr Bar, 1074 South Virginia St, Reno, NV Wednesday July 25, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Capitol Garage Coffee Co., 1427 L St., Sacramento, CA Thursday July 26, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor House Party, Davis, CA Saturday July 27, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Knitting Factory, 7021 Hollywood Blvd., Los Angeles, CA Sunday July 29, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Solar Gallery, Tuscon, AZ Monday July 30, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Green Room, Oklahoma City, OK Wednesday August 1, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor T.T. The Bears, 10 Brookline St., Cambridge, MA Thursday August 9, 2001 Alchemysts/Aytobach Kreisor Knitting Factory, 74 Leonard St., New York, NY Sunday August 12, 2001 From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Jul 11 15:06:01 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:06:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles exhibition Message-ID: I've just heard about this exhibition, running for a couple of weeks, starting soon: ----- exhibition: barney bubbles - what he did for the underground in the late 60's to the early 70's, and tapping that vein through to the early eighties. dates: 25th july - 9th august, WEEKDAYS ONLY times: 10.00am - 5.30pm address: artomatic+ 13-14 great sutton street london ec1 nearest tube: farringdon ---- As it happens I have a client at 28-29 Great Sutton Street, so I'm sure I'll have an opportunity to check it out at least! -- Andy ObCD: The Suffrajets - _Tread Carefully_ www.andygilham.com From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed Jul 11 15:32:33 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:32:33 -0700 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles exhibition Message-ID: Let us know if there's a catalog, I'm sure that there's more than just myself who'd be interested in aquiring one, since it's a tad far just to drop 'round to see it..... scorch From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jul 11 16:12:22 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:12:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury Tourist Accommodation info Message-ID: Kent Tourist Information Phone Numbers in case anyone would like these: South East English Tourist Board, The Old Brew House, Warwick Park, Tunbridge Wells, Kent TN2 5TU Tel: 01892 540766 Fax: 01892 511008 Email: enquiries at seetb.org.uk Internet: www.SouthEastEnglish.uk.com Canterbury Tourist Information Tel: 01227 766 567 jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Jul 11 18:03:06 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:03:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: HW: Paul Chain - Sign from Space Message-ID: in stock at CD Services now if you want one....and highly recommended by me, I have to say. New Nik Turner space-rock double (the USA one not the UK one) in stock later this week and the UK one out in early August. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan Forstner" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 12:45 AM Subject: OFF: HW: Paul Chain - Sign from Space From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sun Jul 8 03:07:33 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 01:07:33 -0600 Subject: OFF: The Warp Message-ID: Not yet, but they certainly sound interesting. Pam Alastair Lee Sumner wrote: > Hi, > I was curious as to whether any HW fans on this list have read 'The Warp' > by Neil Oram. It consists of 3 books, 'A Storm's Howling through > Tiflis', 'Lemmings on the Edge' and 'The Balustrade Paradox'. Ken Campbell > staged the play that apparently holds the Guiness record for the longest > play (24 hours). It seems like the kind of thing that at least one or two > HW fans might have read. > > Regards, > Alastair. -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace >New Nik Turner space-rock double (the USA one not the UK one) in stock later >this week and the UK one out in early August. Huh? What's the difference? Dave From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Thu Jul 12 06:33:31 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:33:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: White Noise Message-ID: Dave, That's the one - I remembered the blurb as soon as I started reading your email. I've been keeping an eye out for that for years, I wonder if our friend Andy (CDServices) has ever come across it. If anybody on the list can locate a copy please let me know and I'll arrange something with them off-list. I have fond memories of that album . . . I'd like to get the 2nd and 3rd for the sake of it even given your notes because I've never even heard them, we used to alternate between this, Frank Zappa and very heavy 'Dub', Scientists v Spaceinvader stuff most evenings (I was at Uni ?) So, anybody help ? Mark (Hasbeen). ----- Original ----- Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:49:08 +0100 From: Dave Bottomley Subject: OFF: White Noise (was Re: BOC-L Digest - 10 Jul 2001 to 11 Jul 2001 (#2001-278)) Mark (Hasbeen) asked: >Would that have been Electric Heat ? I only ask because >it's only album I've ever seen and that was many many many >moons past. Almost. The first album is "An Electric Storm" and is well worth getting hold of (but it *is* extremely odd). Hard to describe, so I'll quote the blurb from the sleeve: "Many sounds have never been heard - by humans: some sound waves you don't hear - but they reach you. 'Storm-stereo' techniques combine singers, instrumentalists and complex electronic sound. The emotional intensity is at a maximum." I kid you not. Says it all, really! Don't know if it ever made it to CD. I also have the second album - the imaginatively-titled "White Noise II" (circa 1975, I think). I haven't heard this in years but recall it being absolutely dreadful. There is also a White Noise III from the 80's (or 90's?) I believe, but I never bothered with that given the travesty of the second. Hope that helps. From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sat Jul 7 03:55:45 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 01:55:45 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawkestra:):) & other tunage:) Message-ID: Hey all! I got my Hawkestra yesterday (Thanks Chris) and have enjoyed the heck out of the entire set. I have to admit to self-indulgence here. I have a 10-disc changer in my cab. I listened to the Hawkestra and the two new Djam Karet I received as well. Nice day for mail here!! I'd like to thank the folx that put these together. I'm sure it's a poor second to being there, but it sure was nice to hear. A great show there. It's one of the best sounding that I own as well. Good job, guys!! The Djam Karet I recieved were their new release "Ascension" and "Suspension & Displacement" . I've not found a bad DK CD as yet, and these are wonderful.I highly reccommend both, especially "Ascension". Very nice. Rock on!! Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Mark/All >If anybody on the >list can locate a copy please let me know and I'll arrange something with >them off-list. I have fond memories of that album . . . >I'd like to get the 2nd and 3rd for the sake of it even given your notes >because I've never even heard them, we used to alternate between this, >Frank Zappa and very heavy 'Dub', Scientists v Spaceinvader stuff most >evenings (I was at Uni ?) >So, anybody help ? Just visited CD-Zone's web site (cdzone.co.uk) & they claim to be able to get hold of "An Electric Storm" on CD for ?8.67, also "III - Re-Entry" for ?10.79 but also reveal that White Noises VI & V both exist (& apparently still available). Whether or not they can genuinely obtain these is of course another matter. They're still listing both of Harvey's CDs despite telling me several months ago that they were deleted (which of course, they are). BTW, CD-Now also list "An Electric Storm" as available. Good luck. Dave From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jul 12 07:30:17 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:30:17 +0100 Subject: Fw: Subject: Spacehead gig Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Jackson" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:46 AM Subject: Subject: Spacehead gig > Blank s p a c e h e a d > > B U R L I N G T O N S > M A R K E T P L A C E, > B U X T O N > > S U N D A Y 15TH J U L Y 2001 > 6. PM > F R E E ! > > M O R E D E T A I L S- ian at glo7.freeserve.co.uk From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Jul 12 07:50:45 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:50:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: White Noise / CDNow In-Reply-To: <011501c10ac7$ea4effa0$99209dc3@merlinas> Message-ID: > > Just visited CD-Zone's web site (cdzone.co.uk) & they claim to be able to > get hold of "An Electric Storm" on CD for ?8.67, also "III - Re-Entry" for > ?10.79 but also reveal that White Noises VI & V both exist (& apparently > still available). Whether or not they can genuinely obtain these is of > course another matter. They're still listing both of Harvey's CDs despite > telling me several months ago that they were deleted (which of > course, they > are). BTW, CD-Now also list "An Electric Storm" as available. But of course, when CD-Now says "This is available", what they mean is "We know full well we'll never get hold of this in a month of Sundays, we refuse to deliver anything at all to your house, we'll cancel any other you make with us and then refuse to give you a refund. Because we're bastards, and we do it on purpose." Grr. Cheers, Rich. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Jul 12 08:48:58 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:48:58 +0800 Subject: Fw: [neo-quark] HW - Bristol - Colston Hall - 31/10/82 offer Message-ID: > I would like to offer this 2 CD quark to the first 5 people to email me at > freeaqua at iinet.net.au. > Trade or B&P are okay. > > This is a great recording. It Rocks! > > Bill > > > Visit the LSD main page at > http://www.geocities.com/hawklord1999/neoquark.html > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > neo-quark-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Thu Jul 12 10:45:37 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:45:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: More White Noise Message-ID: For all who're interested in White Noise, you might like to visit: http://www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk/whitenoise.html Looks like An Electric Storm is no longer available. Good old CDNow..... Dave From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jul 12 11:02:03 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:02:03 -0400 Subject: HW: Lord of Light Sighting Message-ID: Hi there... Picked up a copy of Negative Reaction's "The Orion Chronicles", a stoner trio from parts unknown (perhaps New York state where it was recorded). There's only two extended pieces on the disc, not particularly interesting stuff...very slow, plodding stuff with bad singing. Reminds me of Sleep from San Francisco who opened for NikT in '94 (was it?). Anyway, there's a bonus track (unlisted)...a five-minute cover of "Lord of Light", which is really darn good musically-speaking, but is completely ruined by some of the worst singing I've ever heard in my life. Beware! www.gametwo.com if you wanna hear it for yourself. Grakkl (FAA) ObSiteForAGoodLaugh: http://jevans.xerox-sbc.com/Signs/1_signs_.htm (The Pork one is quite excellent! Originally I thought it must be Scandinavian (and so an 'innocent' mistake), the work 'Sask' seemingly of Swedish provenance...but no, appears it's short for Saskatchewan, and so the sign must be Canadian and so almost certainly an intended double entendre, especially given the photo. Cheeky monkeys!) From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Jul 12 13:09:52 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:09:52 -0500 Subject: OFF: More Terrahawks - mp3s! Message-ID: More Terrahawks info below from the person hosting the site! (Site: http://www.fab1.net/t-hawks/terrahawks.html) William Duffy's a fan too! Cool. The mp3 files are great. I had to use Internet Explorer to get a good download and then of course, change the extension as instructed in the email. Great stuff! You know, I think Henderson bears an amazing resemblance to Commander Hawkeye! ;) Too bad I can't attach the pics to the list. ;) Hey! Don't we already have a Hawkeye on the list? Karen -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Terrahawks Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:32:51 +0100 From: Phillip S Wright To: Karen Kusic Hi Karen, thanks for the comments :-) I collect all Anderson memorabilia and have an extensive Space 1999 collection as well (some is shown in the space 1999 cyber museum site in the USA). I will check out the themes site (can't remember if I have been b4), but in the meanwhile if you fancy some full quality, full version MP3's .... - you can download them from the following URL's on my site - once downloaded you just need to change the suffix to .MP3 ( from .music). Each one is 3 to 4 Mb in size so will take a while to download if you are on a dial-up internet connection. http://www.fab1.net/t-hawks/music/t-hawks-sos.music http://www.fab1.net/t-hawks/music/th-jap.music http://www.fab1.net/t-hawks/music/zeldasong.music http://www.fab1.net/t-hawks/music/t-hawks-theme.music There is the UK and Japanese themes, the SOS track by Kate Kestrel and a song from one of the episodes with Zelda :-) Cheers Phill At 21:42 09/07/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks so much for the memories! > >I was talking with a friend about Space 1999 the other day and couldn't >help but remember the Terrahawks series too. > >Did you know about this link to Terrahawk theme sound files? > >http://tv.cream.org/themes/themes5.htm > >Rock on! > >Karen From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 12 13:39:31 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:39:31 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawkestra:):) & other tunage:) Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Jul 12 13:56:20 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:56:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: HW: Nik Turner's at it again Message-ID: no, no - sorry - let me explain - the USA Turner double features 23 tracks including 111 Hawk covers and 4 new studio tracks with all tracks recorded live or studio between '94 and 2000 and featuring assorted line-ups that include stalwarts Helios Creed, Alan Powell, Simon House and many more - all performances previously unreleased (bar possibly one track) and it's a great album as I've heard the lot - excellent Turner space-rock for sure, and in stock any day.. The UK one is the live document of the Brock-less gigs the first album-era line-up did autumn of last year, and out August 12th. Out August 20th and available to pre-order through us at an extra discount price (and they are all mid-price not full price anyway as a bonus for those who really want them again) are the JEWEL CASE releases of the first five albums that were previously only in digi-paks, ie Hawkwind, In Search of Space, Doremi, Space Ritual and Hall Of...., although all these (and a lot more) will be on the new supplement that should have gone out this week and I hope to god Dave will get it together for it to go out early next week. Re- Alan Davey - the guy with the artwork and the master for our CD has gone on holiday and not left the stuff with us so that's again delayed and I gather that the Bedouin album now won't be until September - I think we're having a race between the two labels as to who can get their CD out last!!!! Meanwhile, Martin of Krel is finalising the Krel archive and new music CD release, while we're getting ever closer to a finished 'In Space We Trust Vol 2' from Spacehead, PLUS I've found a corking new space-rock band in London called Litmus who are doing a gig down there soon, and judging by the demo they've sent me, the gig should be great and I ought to be signing these guys right now. On the Hawkwind live CD front, though, deathly silence from all corners More news soon. Goddit? Andy Garibaldi (CD Services/Dead Earnest) andygee at dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Bottomley" To: Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:27 AM Subject: Re: OFF: HW: Paul Chain - Sign from Space > >New Nik Turner space-rock double (the USA one not the UK one) in stock > later > >this week and the UK one out in early August. > > > Huh? What's the difference? > > Dave From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Jul 12 13:57:52 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:57:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: White Noise Message-ID: Technically, all White Storm CD's are still available - we can order if anyone wants and you don't have to pay until we get them, as the usual way we work, as long as we have your details. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Bottomley" To: Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: OFF: White Noise > Mark/All > > >If anybody on the > >list can locate a copy please let me know and I'll arrange something with > >them off-list. I have fond memories of that album . . . > >I'd like to get the 2nd and 3rd for the sake of it even given your notes > >because I've never even heard them, we used to alternate between this, > >Frank Zappa and very heavy 'Dub', Scientists v Spaceinvader stuff most > >evenings (I was at Uni ?) > >So, anybody help ? > > > Just visited CD-Zone's web site (cdzone.co.uk) & they claim to be able to > get hold of "An Electric Storm" on CD for ?8.67, also "III - Re-Entry" for > ?10.79 but also reveal that White Noises VI & V both exist (& apparently > still available). Whether or not they can genuinely obtain these is of > course another matter. They're still listing both of Harvey's CDs despite > telling me several months ago that they were deleted (which of course, they > are). BTW, CD-Now also list "An Electric Storm" as available. > > Good luck. > > Dave From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Jul 12 14:05:48 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:05:48 +0100 Subject: Off - Litmus Message-ID: Re- Litmus (see previous e.mail just posted, the gig is at a place called The Garage, in Islington, in London on 2nd August - someone want to be my representative? Let me know and I'll tell the band. Andy Garibaldi From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Jul 12 14:11:30 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:11:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: White Noise / CDNow Message-ID: The problem of having a large website and keeping it updated to the nth degree for music related sales is getting quite a weight around the net retailers necks, mainly because most of the people operating them do not have the luxury of being both financially aware and great at that side of the job, as well as musically aware and great at that side of the job - someone ought to give me the job as I seem to be one of the few dinosaurs that fulfills both criteria - but that aside, I will check out the definite availability of all White Noise CD's tomorrow and report back to the group tomorow noght or over the weekend, OK. Andy Garibaldi. (currently listening to the friggin' excellent album that is the new Portal CD - superb or what) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: Re: OFF: White Noise / CDNow > > > > Just visited CD-Zone's web site (cdzone.co.uk) & they claim to be able to > > get hold of "An Electric Storm" on CD for ?8.67, also "III - Re-Entry" for > > ?10.79 but also reveal that White Noises VI & V both exist (& apparently > > still available). Whether or not they can genuinely obtain these is of > > course another matter. They're still listing both of Harvey's CDs despite > > telling me several months ago that they were deleted (which of > > course, they > > are). BTW, CD-Now also list "An Electric Storm" as available. > > But of course, when CD-Now says "This is available", what they mean is "We > know full well we'll never get hold of this in a month of Sundays, we refuse > to deliver anything at all to your house, we'll cancel any other you make > with us and then refuse to give you a refund. Because we're bastards, and > we do it on purpose." > > Grr. > > Cheers, > > Rich. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jul 12 15:39:08 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Mich@el B) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 05:09:08 +0930 Subject: I need an Island and a few good friends Message-ID: Come back brutha mikey all alone all alone need a friend Any one got an island for sale or rent? preferably deserted with a few coconut trees and a shady spot to sleep under maybe a few herb shruberies and a fresh water pond any one out there wanna keep me company No sleep for me tonight need my friends need my friends Mic Heal B ----- Original Message ----- From: Mich at el B To: mikewind at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 4:32 AM Subject: Re: [mikewind] Re: ALIEN DREAM ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: mikewind at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 4:27 AM Subject: [mikewind] Re: ALIEN DREAM Michael is around now >>>Hi brother Mike!!! tell me of your influences Michael >>> first there was the beatles - then Kiss - Ace Frehley man I wanna play aa guitar!!!! Then I discovered Jimi Hendrix by accident at a Roadhouse diner on a jook box - fuck me - purple haze think I was 14 Then came the Doors - cool shit!!! Then I got right into the blues and some jazz n stuff acid jazz then some heavy metal like Ozzy and Black Sabbath etc Then one fine ev3ning of dropping little bits of blotted paper acid a friend played Levitation and that was it the music - the sound the feeling the way I always dreamed music should sound - but the best part was I loved it even more so when I was straight - sober etc I was duly impressed as everyone else has been. >>> thank you - I feel our music is a celebration of love and life and a serious look at the way the world works or is? Alien Dream on the other hand is a celebration of creation and creativity and the desire to reach out and seek other forms of life and exsistence thruoout the universe!! Renee has great vocals..if that was her....are you an ASH RA TEMPEL fan??? >>> I met Renee in Alice Springs - moved in next door to her when I was 20 (1988) - I was practicing my guitar on the back poorch one day and she was playing and singing a song - sounded really great - went over and said HIYA!! Im always interested in "new" stuff if not, you should be will check it out! Levitation was the first hawkwind LP I ever saw, and it was in a record crate in the back of a friend and co-workers car, named "King Yenowine"- he had a brother named Dallas. they were sooo coool..... I miss that dude he was older lost touch as school and different jobs intervened didn't get to hear Levitation till much later, but always remembered that cover..... how could I forget what is "happening" on that artwork Delta-wave all the way (IMHO) m c wasn't Levitation "Your First Love"???? >>> Indeed LEVITATION was my first Hawkwind Experience and will allways be fondly remembered that way - but since then I have discovered a wealth of incredibly beautiful music from Hawkwind that inspires, and stimulates my senses beyond mere words! I could write way too much on that subject.... To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: mikewind-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Jul 12 17:43:55 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:43:55 -0400 Subject: OFF:HARD TO FIND CDS Message-ID: i often find older(used)and sometimes new at djangos.com they will also notify you if something you're looking for comes in. prices are reasonable too heathcliff From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Thu Jul 12 23:12:42 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:12:42 -0400 Subject: HW:Donnington recording Message-ID: Does anyone have a good quality recording to trade? Eddie Jobson. From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Fri Jul 13 02:10:36 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 00:10:36 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawkestra:):) & other tunage:) Message-ID: Got the Dk from a net-friend in California. Got the HW from the tree:) Pam Fraser Gray wrote: > > > wher d'you get the cd from doods? > >From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: HW: Hawkestra:):) & other tunage:) > >Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 01:55:45 -0600 > > > >Hey all! > >I got my Hawkestra yesterday (Thanks Chris) and have enjoyed the heck > out of > >the entire set. I have to admit to self-indulgence here. I have a > 10-disc > >changer in my cab. I listened to the Hawkestra and the two new Djam > Karet I > >received as well. Nice day for mail here!! > >I'd like to thank the folx that put these together. I'm sure it's a > poor > >second to being there, but it sure was nice to hear. A great show > there. It's > >one of the best sounding that I own as well. Good job, guys!! > > > >The Djam Karet I recieved were their new release "Ascension" and > "Suspension & > >Displacement" . I've not found a bad DK CD as yet, and these are > wonderful.I > >highly reccommend both, especially "Ascension". Very nice. > >Rock on!! > >Pam > > > > > >-- > > Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton > > _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace > > > 0 0 E-mail: cwheaton at TransWestTaxi.com > > URL:http://www.TransWestTaxi.com > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:36:31 +0100, Jill Strobridge wrote: >The guide books have a Caravan and Camping site at Painters Forstal >Farm just outside Faversham. It is described as a delightful >site, immaculately kept but advance booking is advisable and it >would mean a 3 or 4 mile walk to get to Mount Ephraim Gardens > Hi Jill, spoke to you on IRC about a week ago. Four of us from the list are booked on this campsite after a recommendation from someone who went to last years festival. You can pre-book a taxi and there are plenty of taxis at the end of the festival anyway apparently. Regards, Alastair. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 13 07:08:05 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:08:05 +0100 Subject: HW:Donnington recording In-Reply-To: ejobson's message of Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:12:42 -0400 Message-ID: ejobson writes: > Does anyone have a good quality recording to trade? I've got one that missed Sonic Attack and has a bit of crowd noise. I'd planned to run it through the 'puter before trading it though. FoFP From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Fri Jul 13 09:17:33 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:17:33 -0400 Subject: BOC: Official site new stuff(?) Message-ID: snippets: Unsure about how new it is (which is why Blueoystercult.com's "what's new" page should really include changes to the site.) but under "The Road", they've listed the covers BOC has done in concert through the years, the covers of BOC songs done by others on legit releases and bootlegs. Also up there is a publication search engine, by author, publication name, year, etc... and so forth. No article actually comes up, but it at least makes it possible to hunt things down in libraries etc. thirdly, www.bocfanclub.com actually has stuff up there now- esp. good are the PDF file versions of all the Morning Final Issues, which John mentioned in an earlier email. lastly, did anyone hear BOC on "Rockline" on the 11th? If so, anything new and interesting said by the band? "messenger of the absolute heavy ordinance jams," Jason (obviously(?))NP: Brain Surgeons, Box of Hammers (is it me, or does Operation Luv sound like they had an immense amount of fun in the studio?) From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Fri Jul 13 10:55:38 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:55:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Oh Look ! Message-ID: Whilst surfing CD Now's web bits for White Noise stuff I thought I'd have a look under Tangerine Dream, as you do, and look what was in the list of compilations - Strange Daze 2 CD'er. Mmmmmm, Mark (Hasbeen) CD $17.99 List $ 19.97 Add to Cart Save to Wish List TRACK LISTING Disc 1 1. Spacelab - Kraftwerk Kraftwerk 2. A Star Too Far (Lullaby For Syd) - Psychic TV And Thee Angels Ov Light P-Orridge/Thrasher 3. Adjust Me - Hawkwind Hawkwind 4. Blue Room - The Orb Giraudy/H/P/W/W 5. The Point Of No Return - Hellios Creed Creed 6. Evolution (Live) Ka-Spel/K/P/V 7. To The Other Side Of Sky Allen/Blake 8. Dark Matter Delerium 9. Sploosh! Ozric Tentacles 10. Mrs. Fiend Goes To Outer Space Alien Sex Fiend 11. Elements House Disc 2 1. Here Come The Warm Jets - Brian Eno Eno 2. Silver Bird/Mastodon - Pressurehed Phillips 3. Lanky - Syd Barrett Barrett 4. Nasa Arab - Coil Balance/C/H 5. Wie Der Wind Am Ende Einer Strasse - Amoun Duul II Amon Duul II 6. Slo Blo/God Rock (Live) Pressurehed 7. 2,000 Flushes Frey 8. Movements Of A Visionary Tangerine Dream 9. Rain (19.5 Degrees Mix) Howard 10. Eternity Clock DVA NOTES Date: 1995 Label: CLEOPATRA Genre: ELEC CREDITS Production Credits Alien Sex Fiend : Performer Amon D??l II : Performer Angels Ov Light : Performer Syd Barrett : Performer Clock Dva : Performer Coil : Performer Helios Creed : Performer Delerium : Performer Brian Eno : Performer Hawkwind : Performer Kraftwerk : Performer Legendary Pink Dots : Performer The Orb : Performer Ozric Tentacles : Performer Pressurehed : Performer Psychic TV : Performer Sky Cries Mary : Performer Spiral Realms : Performer Tangerine Dream : Performer Nik Turner : Performer From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 13 09:48:41 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:48:41 -0400 Subject: OFF: More on Alchemysts tour Message-ID: New update on www.rubricrecords.com...if you live in or near any of the cities mentioned, go to their webpage for details on the gigs. Well, no details on the four cities at the bottom, but... Oh, Mike already said something about the Philly show, 8/6-7 I think. Apparently not coming back to Ohio. Crap. Grakkl (FAA) ALCHEMYSTS ARRIVE IN THE STATES! Several updates have been made to the tour schedule. The San Francisco date will now be at the Pound-SF. Atlanta and Chapel Hill dates have been added in August with Simeon of the Silver Apples (and Alchemysts & Simeon) fame. Other towns in the works for August are Richmond, Philadelphia, Providence and Northhampton. From corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Jul 13 13:18:13 2001 From: corwyn at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:18:13 -0400 Subject: Blake and Hawkestra Message-ID: Listening FINALLY to the Blake portion of Hawkestra. Fantastic as well. I was a Blake fan before I was aware he had played with Hawkwind and I think I have New Jerusalem and one other on Vinyl somewhere. Anyway great stuff. Thought you all should know. Mike -- __________________________________________ ___[_-,--,-_]___ __[ -~ ~- ]__ I__I __[_-~ ,-- \] /(--)\/\/\/\ __- / / / \ [ 00 ] ======= __/ / [ ] \ ~~~~ //_,,,~~~~,,,_____/ / / >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Mankind is divisible into two great classes: hosts and guests." -Sir Max Beerbohm __________________________________________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 http:/www.geocites.com/mhabiby1/ corwyn at nycap.rr.com __________________________________________ From m.french at SHEFFIELD.AC.UK Fri Jul 13 13:38:25 2001 From: m.french at SHEFFIELD.AC.UK (Merrick French) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:38:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Camping at Canterbury - Saturday 18 August In-Reply-To: <200107131047.GAA09920@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 13 Jul 01, at 6:47, Alastair Lee Sumner wrote: On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:36:31 +0100, Jill Strobridge wrote: >The guide books have a Caravan and Camping site at Painters Forstal >Farm just outside Faversham. It is described as a delightful >site, immaculately kept but advance booking is advisable and it >would mean a 3 or 4 mile walk to get to Mount Ephraim Gardens > Hi Jill, spoke to you on IRC about a week ago. Four of us from the list are booked on this campsite after a recommendation from someone who went to last years festival. You can pre-book a taxi and there are plenty of taxis at the end of the festival anyway apparently. Regards, Alastair. Hello all, We are also booked onto this site, Friday and Saturday Love light and Peace Julie and Merrick Love, light and peace Julie and Merrick From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Jul 13 13:51:00 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:51:00 -0400 Subject: HW: Unexpected Fan Message-ID: I found a website featuring notes from the 1972 Bickershaw festival programme. The Hawkwind notes state that Salvador Dali was 'a great fan'! Anyone know if this was for real? Just think of the cover art he could have contributed. Address if anyone's interested: http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/ebony/546/bickprog-hawkwind.html Mick. May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Jul 13 14:00:31 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:00:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Unexpected Fan Message-ID: He probably just said he was a fan to piss off The Strawbs, after Rick Wakeman had him kicked off the stage. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Crook To: Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 6:51 PM Subject: Re: HW: Unexpected Fan > I found a website featuring notes from the 1972 Bickershaw festival programme. The Hawkwind notes state that Salvador Dali was 'a great fan'! Anyone know if this was for real? Just think of the cover art he could have contributed. > Address if anyone's interested: > > http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/ebony/546/bickprog-hawkwind.html > > Mick. > > > May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 13 12:59:20 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:59:20 -0400 Subject: OFF: Circle Live Dates Message-ID: Hi Folks... Here are some upcoming Circle (Pori, Finland) gigs. Damn! They are *ALSO* playing at Burg Herzberg this year! Real pisser that there weren't cheap flights to Europe this summer like last October. Circle Live... 15.07 Joensuu / Kerubi (Finland) 21.07 Burg Herzberg Festival (Germany) 10.08 ?hlborg / 1000 Fryd (Denmark) 11.08 Emmaboda Festival (Sweden) 18.08 Copenhagen / Loppen (Denmark)* I guess they are still planning to do some shows in the UK this coming December. Apparently, they have something worked out for Glasgow on Dec. 6th, but are interested in making some contact with people who can help them line up shows elsewhere in the country around this time. Anybody? Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Scott H...can you send me a CD-R? :) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 13 14:41:27 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:41:27 -0400 Subject: HW: Unexpected Fan Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:51:00 -0400, Michael Crook wrote: >I found a website featuring notes from the 1972 Bickershaw festival >programme... >Address if anyone's interested: > >http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/ebony/546/bickprog-hawkwind.html This is a cool site (love the Captain Beefheart info!), BUT beware of the fact that it spawns dozens of pop-up ad windows ... you have been warned ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Jul 13 18:11:30 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:11:30 EDT Subject: HW: Oh Look ! Message-ID: In a message dated 7/13/01 8:00:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM writes: > Whilst surfing CD Now's web bits for White Noise stuff I thought > I'd have a look under Tangerine Dream, as you do, and look what > was in the list of compilations - Strange Daze 2 CD'er. > > Mmmmmm, > > Mark (Hasbeen) actually, it's entitled Space Daze....easy to get mixed up w/Strange Daze. It was supposed to originally accompany the book of the same title. it was later released w/"space daze 2000" and a "bonus disc" in a 4-CD box set. i'll bet you can guess the label...that's right, Cleopatra. I don't know if any of the tracks are exclusive to the CDs... Chuck From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jul 13 18:45:33 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 23:45:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Oh Look ! Message-ID: none are exclusive......... Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Rosenberg" To: Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 11:11 PM Subject: Re: HW: Oh Look ! > released w/"space daze 2000" and a "bonus disc" in a 4-CD box set. i'll bet > you can guess the label...that's right, Cleopatra. I don't know if any of the > tracks are exclusive to the CDs... Chuck From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Fri Jul 13 18:21:51 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:21:51 -0700 Subject: OFF: Those wacky Finns Message-ID: We all know the Finns produce some great music, but this is just a bit over the edge of strange..... scorch ------------- Begin Forwarded Message ------------- Having already won cult fame and a medal of appreciation from the pope for translating Elvis Presley into Latin, Finnish Professor Jukka Ammondt has just released his latest Golden Oldie -- a version of "Blue Suede Shoes" in ancient Sumerian, the world's oldest written language. Spoken around 4000 B.C. in what is now Iraq, Sumerian has no precise equivalent for blue suede shoes, so the chorus now translates as "but my sandals of sky-blue leather do not touch." Or as they'd say in the Sumerian: "nigname si'ibakke'en, esir kus-za gingu baratag ge'en." Dressed in blue sandals and the kind of glittery loincloth a Sumerian Elvis might have worn in Las Vegas, Ammondt's premiere performance in Helsinki was the highlight of a recent International Conference of Assyriology and Near Eastern Archaeology. ------------- End Forwarded Message ------------- Hmmm... with the right musical backing it could sound like Magma... From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jul 13 18:48:59 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 23:48:59 +0100 Subject: Blake and Hawkestra Message-ID: I first saw Tim with Gong live in Birmingham in 1973 - a rare concert without Daevid and Gilli but they had not left the band - it was a one-off but not Paragong, so Blake and Hillage did most of the vocals - a bizarre way to start your Ging concert life. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Habiby" To: Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: Blake and Hawkestra > Listening FINALLY to the Blake portion of Hawkestra. Fantastic as well. > > I was a Blake fan before I was aware he had played with Hawkwind and I think I have New > Jerusalem and one other on Vinyl somewhere. > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jul 13 23:03:40 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 23:03:40 -0400 Subject: OFF: New Dr. Who episode online Message-ID: Someone informed me today that there's a new Dr. Who "radio" episode being broadcast online. I just looked on the BBC WWW site, and it seems it's true (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/tv_and_radio/newsid_1436000/1436272.stm). The show can be accessed via http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/death/index.shtml. Sylvester McCoy plays the Doctor. I've not listened to it myself. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Jul 14 02:03:10 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 02:03:10 -0400 Subject: HW: Camping at Canterbury - Saturday 18 August Message-ID: >On 13 Jul 01, at 6:47, Alastair Lee Sumner wrote: > >>The guide books have a Caravan and Camping site at Painters Forstal >>Farm just outside Faversham. It is described as a delightful >>site, immaculately kept but advance booking is advisable and it >>would mean a 3 or 4 mile walk to get to Mount Ephraim Gardens > >Hi Jill, spoke to you on IRC about a week ago. Four of us from the >list are booked on this campsite > >We are also booked onto this site, Friday and Saturday Alright. Damnit...USAir just came up with a $450 RT flight to Brussels and I'm thinking about coming now, and also going to Kloster-Cornberg the following weekend. I'd bring my tent like last year, and so would be interested to know if pre-booking would be necessary for tenting (as opposed to caravanning). There's no website for PF Farm and seems weird to think an about overseas call for that. How is the safety with leaving stuff during the "day" (18th)? Would someone have a vehicle to lock stuff in for those of us train-travelling? What would be the nearest station to the campsite (coming from Dover)? Anyone else going to Kloster-Cornberg (near Bad Hersfeld/Eschwege, Germany) and could tell me similar info (camping onsite at festival? if not, where?), locations of trainstations, etc. - would be much appreciated. Sorry for the self-important diversion. Need to decide *tomorrow* whether to come or not. Grakkl (FAA) From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Sat Jul 14 06:20:31 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 06:20:31 -0400 Subject: HW: Camping at Canterbury - Saturday 18 August Message-ID: Correction needed: On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 06:47:04 -0400, Alastair Lee Sumner wrote: >Hi Jill, spoke to you on IRC about a week ago. Four of us from the list are >booked on this campsite after a recommendation from someone who went to >last years festival. You can pre-book a taxi and there are plenty of taxis >at the end of the festival anyway apparently. ------------------------------ Being one of the aforementioned quartet, I have rechecked the original source of information about the taxis. He said "I think there were a few", not "there are plenty" - book first, folks! Me, I'll be walking back through the country lanes looking at the stars, just like I used to do on the way home from Stonehenge free festival all those years ago. From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Sat Jul 14 06:30:56 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:30:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Camping at Canterbury - Saturday 18 August Message-ID: Grakkl, Can't answer all your questions mate, but here are a few: 1. Rail travel: trains from Dover Priory station to Faversham. Journey time is 30-40 minutes & you don't need to change trains. Timetable info at http://www.railtrack.com You don't need to book a place on the train. 2. From Faversham station to the festival site: there's a free shuttle bus. http://www.canterburyfestival.com has details & you need to let them know ahead of time if you want to use the shuttle bus 3. If you want to go from Faversham station to the campground you'll probably need to get a taxi. 4. Yeah I would say you do need to book for tents. Probably OK to leave stuff in your tent, and your tent all sealed up. Or I might be able to lock stuff in my car (once I've emptied the 4 list members and their camping gear out of it) Sounds like a few of us might be going - what do people think of doing BOC-L badges like Michael B did for Hawkestra? I might post a simple design on http://www.dreamworker.co.uk that people can print off and pin onto themselves Moonglum ============================= ----- Original Message ----- From: K Henderson To: Sent: 14 July 2001 07:03 Subject: Re: HW: Camping at Canterbury - Saturday 18 August > Alright. Damnit...USAir just came up with a $450 RT flight to Brussels and > I'm thinking about coming now, and also going to Kloster-Cornberg the > following weekend. I'd bring my tent like last year, and so would be > interested to know if pre-booking would be necessary for tenting (as opposed > to caravanning). There's no website for PF Farm and seems weird to think an > about overseas call for that. How is the safety with leaving stuff during > the "day" (18th)? Would someone have a vehicle to lock stuff in for those > of us train-travelling? What would be the nearest station to the campsite > (coming from Dover)? > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jul 14 06:55:25 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:55:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Camping at Canterbury - Saturday 18 August Message-ID: Excellent information. Thank you. I guess it's time to get the tent dusted down. I haven't been able to find a taxi contact number anywhere though. Could you make it available? cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Moonglum > > 1. Rail travel: trains from Dover Priory station to Faversham. Journey > time is 30-40 minutes & you don't need to change trains. Timetable info at > http://www.railtrack.com You don't need to book a place on the train. > > 2. From Faversham station to the festival site: there's a free shuttle bus. > http://www.canterburyfestival.com has details & you need to let them know > ahead of time if you want to use the shuttle bus > > 3. If you want to go from Faversham station to the campground you'll > probably need to get a taxi. From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jul 14 07:05:10 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:05:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind at Newcastle Message-ID: Just booked my ticket on the Newcastle Opera House Web page and was browsing through the "How Did You Hear About This Page" section and was impessed to discover, right at the end of the selections, 'I'm on the Band's Mail List' . Guess which selection I chose.... jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sat Jul 14 07:21:10 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:21:10 +0100 Subject: NIK: Greasy Truckers 2001 Message-ID: In case anyone's still not heard about this forthcoming Deviants/Nik Turner show, Mick Farren now has a notice up at http://www.thanatosoft.freeserve.co.uk/news.htm in which he describes it much better then I could... -- Andy ObMP3: The New Christs - "On Top Of Me" www.andygilham.com From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Jul 14 11:10:04 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 23:10:04 +0800 Subject: OFF: New Dr. Who episode online Message-ID: Hi there As it's in Real Audio, is there a way it can be downloaded to listen to later? William PS For others not aware, there is also a company called Big Finish who produce 2 CD sets a month featuring new adventures of Doctor Who as well. Their address is http://www.doctorwho.co.uk/ and they feature many of the actors to have plaid the Doctor in the stories, along with various companions. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mather" To: Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 11:03 AM Subject: OFF: New Dr. Who episode online > Someone informed me today that there's a new Dr. Who "radio" episode > being broadcast online. I just looked on the BBC WWW site, and it seems > it's true > (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/tv_and_radio/newsid_1436000/ 1436272.stm). > The show can be accessed via > http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/death/index.shtml. Sylvester McCoy > plays the Doctor. I've not listened to it myself. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Sat Jul 14 12:24:45 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:24:45 -0400 Subject: HW: A Space Rock Odyssey Message-ID: Anyone wanting to download the leaflet for the 2001 A Space Rock Odyssey show can get it from the front page over at; http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sat Jul 14 14:32:19 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:32:19 EDT Subject: OFF: New Dr. Who episode online Message-ID: The Sci-Fi channel has a Dr. Who movie on Sunday the 15, at 9:00 EST Joe From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sat Jul 14 14:40:11 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 13:40:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: New Dr. Who episode online In-Reply-To: <12.f832e2a.2881ea33@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, Joe Loehr wrote: :Subject: Re: OFF: New Dr. Who episode online : :The Sci-Fi channel has a Dr. Who movie on Sunday the 15, at 9:00 EST It's the american remake though, and although Paul McGann did a good job as the eighth doctor, the writers of that should be taken out and shot. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sat Jul 14 15:36:15 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 15:36:15 EDT Subject: Eric's Reaper Guitar Message-ID: www.harpersguitars.com/bloom.htm Nice close-up of the Reaper graphic Joe From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat Jul 14 16:05:53 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:05:53 -0400 Subject: Eric's Reaper Guitar In-Reply-To: <29.17a2f316.2881f92f@aol.com> Message-ID: Does he play this anymore? http://www.geocities.com/mhabiby1/BOC.html ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::Behalf Of Joe Loehr ::Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 3:36 PM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::Subject: Eric's Reaper Guitar :: :: ::www.harpersguitars.com/bloom.htm :: ::Nice close-up of the Reaper graphic :: ::Joe :: From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Sat Jul 14 15:56:57 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:56:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Camping at Canterbury - Saturday 18 August Message-ID: I don't have any taxi info., I am sure it can all be arranged locally. There must be cabs running from outside Faversham station. And next door to the campsite, I am told there is a pub, whence you can ring for a taxi ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Strobridge To: Sent: 14 July 2001 11:55 Subject: Re: HW: Camping at Canterbury - Saturday 18 August > Excellent information. Thank you. I guess it's time to get the > tent dusted down. I haven't been able to find a taxi contact > number anywhere though. Could you make it available? > cheers > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Moonglum > > > > 1. Rail travel: trains from Dover Priory station to Faversham. > Journey > > time is 30-40 minutes & you don't need to change trains. > Timetable info at > > http://www.railtrack.com You don't need to book a place on the > train. > > > > 2. From Faversham station to the festival site: there's a free > shuttle bus. > > http://www.canterburyfestival.com has details & you need to let > them know > > ahead of time if you want to use the shuttle bus > > > > 3. If you want to go from Faversham station to the campground > you'll > > probably need to get a taxi. > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sat Jul 14 16:18:06 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:18:06 EDT Subject: Eric's Reaper Guitar Message-ID: In a message dated 7/14/01 3:03:47 PM US Eastern Standard Time, mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM writes: > Does he play this anymore? > > http://www.geocities.com/mhabiby1/BOC.html > > Dunno if he still plays that one (looks like a Gibson) but http://members.aol.com/HARPERGTRS/index.html, the Harpers Guitars page has a picture of Eric with a new Kronos guitar that Harper's made for him. Joe From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Jul 14 14:13:43 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 19:13:43 +0100 Subject: OFF:Psi-Fi/ Seventh Wave Message-ID: you can get the album on its own on CD or as a 2-on-1 CD with their other album, both of which are either instock or to order here at CDS towers. Thanks alot, Andy G andygee at dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Stewart" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 2:47 AM Subject: OFF:Psi-Fi/ Seventh Wave > Does anyone have info on a late 70s synth combo called 7th Wave and their > album Psi-Fi or visa versa? > > Regards, > Bill 'polish those rockets and swallow those pills' Stewart From micci at SCI.FI Sun Jul 15 03:08:11 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:08:11 +0300 Subject: off: fullmoon - euphoria Message-ID: Hi! >was just listening to this cd of fullmoon which is called euphoria. >still think it's great space guitar music. >does anyone have some more information about this band. >did they have more releases ? Yeah good band indeed. I have also following item: FULL MOON (VOW 011 NOR-89) This also very good album. Discography: single: Nemesis/ The Eternal Now (lunar?) Albums: Full Moon A Live Encounter (Lunar14) Euphoria (Demi Monde 1031) Archives (Moon FM CD333) Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.sci.fi/~micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Sun Jul 15 06:16:32 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:16:32 +0200 Subject: off: fullmoon - euphoria In-Reply-To: <200107150708.f6F78BA08489@vasta.saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: At 10:08 15-7-01 +0300, you wrote: >Hi! > > >was just listening to this cd of fullmoon which is called euphoria. > >still think it's great space guitar music. > >does anyone have some more information about this band. > >did they have more releases ? > >Yeah good band indeed. I have also following item: >FULL MOON (VOW 011 NOR-89) >This also very good album. > >Discography: >single: >Nemesis/ The Eternal Now (lunar?) > >Albums: >Full Moon >A Live Encounter (Lunar14) >Euphoria (Demi Monde 1031) >Archives (Moon FM CD333) > > > >Miikka Wagner >email: micci at sci.fi thanks miika for the info. andre From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Sun Jul 15 16:58:24 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:58:24 +0200 Subject: hawkorchestra october 2000 Message-ID: hi due to a harddisk crash i have lost the data of the titles of the songs which were played by tim blake, bedouin and simon house. also i can't remember the order in which they performed. btw are there any back covers available of the hawkwind discs. on the yahoo url i can only find the frontcovers. thanks for helping or pointing me in a direction. andre From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Sun Jul 15 18:21:37 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:21:37 +1200 Subject: BOC-L Hawkwind & Spacerock in Sale In-Reply-To: <200107140900.FAA13787@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Well its that time again when we have one of our storewide sales www.cranium-music.com and for this mid summer/winter sale we have 10% off ALL retail prices throughout the entire catalogue. We have had a number of new titles and restocks come in recently and these are also included in the 10% off. Please note that some titles, (especially Sth American) are in only limited supply and may sell out quickly. Please feel free to tell your friends and other music fans in newsgroups and discussion forums you may belong to about our current sale and great selection of PROGRESSIVE, PSYCHEDELIC, SPACEROCK, KRAUTROCK & ELECTRONIC music from around the world. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Sun Jul 15 18:39:13 2001 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 18:39:13 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind releases Message-ID: Hi, folks: The latest Artist Shop Newsletter New releases from Voiceprint Lloyd-Langton Group/Night Air Lloyd-Lang Group/Time, Space & LLG Lloyd-Langton Group/Like An Arrow Huw Lloyd Langton was a founder member and long standing lead guitarist with the psychedelic rock band Hawkwind. He also worked with various bands and musicians including Manfred Mann, Leo Sayer and Widowmaker. Although Huw formed his own band, The Lloyd Langton Group, he continued to perform with Hawkwind. Hawkwind's reunion show at Brixton Academy included Huw in the line up along with Lemmy, and he also played at the Hawkwind Christmas Party at the Astoria London . He also performs solo concerts which attract good reviews. Huw continues to show his versatility as a rock based blues guitarist who plays slow haunting melodies just as easily as complex fast instrumentals. Performing on all guitars and lead vocals Huw is joined on this album by Kenny Wilson (bass), who has performed with 'Dusty', 'Speed Limit' and Ronnie Jones. Drummer John Clark has worked with 'Pretty Things', 'Charlie Witney', and 'Ginger'. These albums have been remastered and feature lovingly chosen artwork. soundbite - future import releases which you'll find at HAWKWIND-DOREMI FASOL LATIDO RM HAWKWIND-HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN GRILL RM HAWKWIND-HAWKWIND RM HAWKWIND-IN SEARCH OF SPACE RM HAWKWIND-SPACE RITUAL (2CD) RM HAWKWIND-1999 PARTY (2CD) RM HAWKWIND-IN YOUR AREA (domestic) The ultimate psychedelic and space rock band returns with their first studio album released in America in four years. Contains 14 brand new tracks, 16-page color booklet with essential Hawkwind material. HAWKWIND-THRILLING HAWKWIND STORIES (domestic) 7 live tracks of Classic Space Rock from the Astounding Sounds Tour in '76. Over 53 minutes in length and tracks include Uncle Sam's on Mars and Sonic Attack. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Jul 16 07:58:29 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:58:29 EDT Subject: Eric's Reaper Guitar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 14 Jul 2001, at 16:05, Mike Habiby wrote: > Does he play this anymore? > > http://www.geocities.com/mhabiby1/BOC.html > I think that guit. was either retired from service or maybe it was stolen. BOC lost a whole bunch of gear once a while back, I'm not sure the Kronos guit. was one of them. He does have a Kronos guit. nowadays, but that's made by Harper, same folks who make his other 2 guitars... theo From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Jul 16 08:40:56 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:40:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Royal Festival Hall tickets on sale now ! Message-ID: Hi folks, just to say I've just booked 3 tickets for the 4th row of this gig on 10th Oct ( weds).... see you there !!! iain From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon Jul 16 13:32:20 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:32:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Oh Look ! Track info request/Pressurehed Message-ID: > actually, it's entitled Space Daze...easy to get mixed up w/Strange > Daze...I don't know if any of the tracks are exclusive to the CDs... Chuck >none are exclusive......... >Andy Garibaldi >2. Silver Bird/Mastodon - Pressurehed I never bothered with this box as I have most of the tracks I'm interested in elsewhere, but I was never sure what the deal was with this Pressurehed track - none of the official CD releases has a track with this title. Can anyone let me know what year it's from/where else it's available/any other info? Stephan From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Mon Jul 16 13:43:01 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 18:43:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Royal Festival Hall tickets on sale now ! Message-ID: iain ferguson wrote: > Hi folks, > > just to say I've just booked 3 tickets for the 4th row of this gig on > 10th Oct ( weds).... I'm on the 4th row too! D11 is the best seat I could get. If it's anything like Croydon I'll only be sat in it for a few minutes though!! You can book online at www.royalfestivalhall.org.uk or phone +44 (0) 20 7960 4242 Keef From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jul 16 14:51:48 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:51:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Oh Look ! Track info request/Pressurehed Message-ID: oops - I thought this was on one of the Pressurehed albums but I've not checked for ages, so maybe I'm wrong - well, there has to be a first time (!!!????!!!) Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan Forstner" To: Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 6:32 PM Subject: Re: HW: Oh Look ! Track info request/Pressurehed > >none are exclusive......... > >Andy Garibaldi > > >2. Silver Bird/Mastodon - Pressurehed > > I never bothered with this box as I have most of the tracks I'm interested > in elsewhere, but I was never sure what the deal was with this Pressurehed > track - none of the official CD releases has a track with this title. Can > anyone let me know what year it's from/where else it's available/any other info? > > Stephan From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 16 15:01:56 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:01:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Oh Look ! Track info request/Pressurehed Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephan Forstner > >2. Silver Bird/Mastodon - Pressurehed > > I never bothered with this box as I have most of the tracks I'm interested > in elsewhere, but I was never sure what the deal was with this Pressurehed > track - none of the official CD releases has a track with this title. Can > anyone let me know what year it's from/where else it's available/any other info? > > Stephan >From the booklet - in case it's of any assistance! "2. Pressurehed - Silver Bird/Mastodon (Philips, Pressurehed) 1994 Cleopatra. Pub. by Brian Squid (EMI) Apparently the boys found the original of this in a local thrift store, a scratchy garage album which lent itself perfectly to Pressurehed's pressure cooker blend of interplanetary savagery. Based in LA, but firmly rooted in the tenets of primal Pinkwind, Pressurehed spent much of 1994 on the road in the US and Europe with Nik Turner, the fuel rods which projected the reborn Ritual into Space - once you've passed their own two alums, catch them on Nik's Prophets of Time as well." jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK Mon Jul 16 15:28:57 2001 From: sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:28:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Royal Festival Hall tickets on sale now ! Message-ID: The Alice Cooper Trivia File: www.sickthingsuk.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barton" To: Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 6:43 PM Subject: Re: HW: Royal Festival Hall tickets on sale now ! > iain ferguson wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > just to say I've just booked 3 tickets for the 4th row of this gig on > > 10th Oct ( weds).... > > I'm on the 4th row too! D11 is the best seat I could get. If it's > anything like Croydon I'll only be sat in it for a few minutes though!! D12 here. I hope this is a proper gig and not a short appearance as part of a charity thing(isn`t this a charity thing?). Now I`ve got a ticket, anybody help me out with info on the gig? I must have missed previous info posted. Si From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 16 16:18:33 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Judge Trev) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 21:18:33 +0100 Subject: Barney Bubbles exhibition Message-ID: There is an exhibition on the life and works of Barney Bubbles 25 july - 9 aug 13 - 14 Gt Sutton St London EC1 He's the one who created most of the Sacred Hawk Artwork, ICU art, Stiff Recs art, and the NME. He was a genius he died years ago He was my friend From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Jul 16 23:01:54 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 23:01:54 -0400 Subject: Blake and Hawkestra In-Reply-To: <3B4F2D55.3A97742B@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: I'd be interested in a copy to trade. I only have the HW set and some Blake from the Astoria. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Mike Habiby Sent: 13 July 2001 13:18 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Blake and Hawkestra Listening FINALLY to the Blake portion of Hawkestra. Fantastic as well. I was a Blake fan before I was aware he had played with Hawkwind and I think I have New Jerusalem and one other on Vinyl somewhere. Anyway great stuff. Thought you all should know. Mike -- __________________________________________ ___[_-,--,-_]___ __[ -~ ~- ]__ I__I __[_-~ ,-- \] /(--)\/\/\/\ __- / / / \ [ 00 ] ======= __/ / [ ] \ ~~~~ //_,,,~~~~,,,_____/ / / >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Mankind is divisible into two great classes: hosts and guests." -Sir Max Beerbohm __________________________________________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 http:/www.geocites.com/mhabiby1/ corwyn at nycap.rr.com __________________________________________ From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jul 17 04:55:56 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (BucketHead) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 02:55:56 -0600 Subject: (OFF?) Oh Look! ICU ICU ICU ICU ICU In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20010716173220.006c65ac@pop.pipeline.com> Message-ID: (new) ICU dedicated newsgroup-chat list. Run by FEE. Serial Nitters get your seniority. Undecided need not apply. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InnerCityUnit From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Jul 17 06:13:52 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 06:13:52 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-lists 7/7 and 7/14 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck NOTE: I also recommend you stay tuned for Mizzen's program "Audio Alchemy", which airs every Saturday evening after mine, from 8-11pm PST...if you DARE... 7/7 1.Pink Floyd-- "Let There Be More Light" (Saucerful of Secrets; EMI/Harvest) 2.Mushroom-- "Foxy Music " (Compared to What EP; InnerSpace Records) 3.Faust-- title track (So Far; Collector's Choice Records) 4.Amon Duul 2-- "Sleepwalker's Timeless Bridge" (Wolf City; Repetoirre Records) 5.F/i-- "One Step Beyond" (Helioscopium; Ceres Records) 6.Nik Turner-- "Sun Jester" (Transglobal Friends and Relations; Transparency Records) 7.Nik Turner-- "Yrckoon" (Transglobal F/R) 8.ST 37-- "Kenny Ray K" (Glare; Electric Jug Records) 9.Tomorrow-- "Revolution /Why/Real Life Permanent Dream " (unreleased studio materal; thanks to Doug Pearson!) 10.Lamp of the Universe-- "Freedom in Your Mind" (Cosmic Union; Cranium Records) 11.Mr. Quimby's Beard-- "Snake Dance" (Out There; Demi Monde Records) 12.Hawkwind-- "Interstellar Overdrive" (??) 13.Monoshock-- "Psychedelic Warlords " (Assassins of Silence/Hundred Watt Violence: Tribute to Hawkwind; Ceres Records) 14.Hawkwind-- "Seeing it as you Really Are" (Text of Festival; Illuminated Records) 15.Pseudo Buddha-- "Calling Quexzalcoatl" (Flourescent Tunnelvision comp; Submergence Records) 16.Pretty Things-- "Death/The Journey" (SF Sorrow; EMI Records) 17.Wallenstein-- "Braintrain" (Mother Universe; Ohr Records) 18.Dead Flowers-- "Warmth Within " (Altered State Circus; Delerium Records) 19.Heavenly Music Corporation-- "Geosynchronous/Sphereless" (Anechoic; Silent Records) 20.Harvey Bainbridge-- "Who's to Say" (Live 2000; Strange Trips Records) 21.Anubian Lights-- "Outerspace Music" (Naz Bar; Crippled Dick Hotwax Records) 22.Chrome-- title track (Half Machine Lip Moves; Touch and Go Records) 23.Twink-- "3 Little Piggies" (Think Pink; Sire Records) 7/14 1.Hawkwind-- "Valium Ten" (b/w "Motorhead" single; Flicknife Records) 2.Bablicon-- "Mary" (The Cat that Was a Dog...; Misra Records) 3.Mushroom-- "Let's Have Sex (Compared to What EP; InnerSpace Records) 4.Defender-- "Defender Man"...errrr, untitled track from Jan/01 live CD-R 5.Faust-- "From the Upper Underworld " (Flourescent Tunnelvision; Submergence Records) 6.Can-- "Halleluwah" (Tago Mago; Mute/Spoon Records) 7.Amon Duul 2-- "Eye-Shaking King" (Live in London; Mystic Records) 8.Pierre Bastien and Meconium-- "la Philanthropie d'Ubu Charpentier" (Ubu et la Merdre comp; Musea/Gazul Records) 9.Barlow/Peterson/Wivinus-- "Entrance" (ST'd; Assymetry/Stick it to the Man Records) 10. Moondance Experiment-- "A Journey on the Space Wave/2nd Melody/Duke's Anthem" (MmmDEee Records) 11.Afresco Mantis-- "In a Place in Time" (Harris Tweed EP; Freaky Fungi Records) 12.King Crimson-- "The Mincer" (Starless and Bible Black) 13.Nik Turner-- "Dream Worker" (Transglobal Friends/Relations; Transparency) 14.Tree Sine-- "Jump to the Moon (Flourescent Tunnelvision comp) 15.F/i-- "Robot" (Assassins of Silence Hawkwind Tribute; Ceres Records) 16.Chrome-- "New Age/Eyes on Mars" (Red Exposure/Chrome Box) 17.Man-- "Bananas" (Be Good to Yourself at Least Once a Day; BGO Records) 18.Pink Floyd-- "Remember a Day" (Saucerful of Secrets/Relics; EMI/Harvest) 19.Tomorrow-- "3 Jolly Little Dwarves" (Top Gear Radio Sessions) 20.Pretty Things-- "She Says Good Morning" (SF Sorrow; EMI) 21.Twink-- "The Coming of the Other One" (Think Pink; Sire Records) 22.Hawkwind-- "You Shouldn't do That" (Roadhawks, Stasis, etc) thanks, Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Jul 17 06:25:57 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 06:25:57 EDT Subject: HW: Oh Look ! Track info request/Pressurehed Message-ID: Pressurehed's "Silver Bird/Mastadon" is definitely not on any P-hed disc I know of. and btw--it's fucking fantastic! What about the Psychic TV cover of "Set the Controls..."? Or the live Legendary Pink Dots track "Evolution"? are these exclusive? I also wonder about the Bowie (w/B. Eno) track "All Saints"--has there been more material like this released? Chuck From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jul 17 10:48:29 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 22:48:29 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind Book? Message-ID: Hi all Anyone heard any news on the Hawkwind Book that was due out at the beginning of the year? I can't recall the title, but it was something along the lines of the Collectors Guide, but on a larger scale. William From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 17 11:16:38 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:16:38 -0000 Subject: NEW ICU/ JUDGE TREV/NIK TURNER CDs Message-ID: NEW ICU/ JUDGE TREV/NIK TURNER CD?s AVAILABLE >From http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk - our new website. ?the cd?s below, and many more festy band cd?s available here. Pay Pal accepted. JUDGEMENT AND THUNDER 2 Inner City Unit/Imperial Pompadours More hits from Judge Trev and Nik Turner including the highly illegal ?Insolence across the Nation? REVOLUTION AND REBELLION Inner City Unit/Atomgods The revolutionary works of Judge trev ? masterpiece! Also ?Now You Know the Score? Judge Trevs ICU 1997 ?7.99 each + postage Send check, PO, IMO to: Real Festival Music 34a Upper Lewes Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN23FH UK Postage 1 CD UK 44p Europe 96p Rest of World ?1.32p 2 CDs UK 66p Europe ?1.50p Rest of World ?2.30p 3 CDs UK 87p Europe ?2.00p Rest of World ?3.00p Coming soon? ?GOD AND MAN? new major album from Judge Trev, Featuring Nik Turner, Harvey Bainbridge, Ron Tree, Dino Ferari _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jul 17 13:55:15 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:55:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Oh Look Architectural Metaphor Message-ID: ............which is a good album, but have you heard the 'Viva' live album yet - now that's just fantastic. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 8:01 PM Subject: Re: HW: Oh Look ! Track info request/Pressurehed > jill > Velvet Void> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jul 17 14:09:02 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:09:02 -0400 Subject: HW: Oh Look ! Track info request/Pressurehed Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 06:25:57 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >I also wonder about the Bowie (w/B. Eno) track "All Saints"--has there been >more material like this released? The three albums Bowie did with Brian Eno are 'Low', 'Heroes' and 'Lodger'. The first has an entire album side of spacey/ambient stuff. And it's even on-topic since Simon House plays on the last. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Jul 17 14:23:06 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:23:06 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Book? In-Reply-To: <001301c10ecf$914630c0$c8b63bcb@xl5jji166w6xlq> Message-ID: Do you mean the Hawkwind Chronicles by Adrian Parr? His web site hasnt been updated all year. Where is he? What of the book? Cheers Ben -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of William Duffy Sent: 17 July 2001 15:48 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Hawkwind Book? Hi all Anyone heard any news on the Hawkwind Book that was due out at the beginning of the year? I can't recall the title, but it was something along the lines of the Collectors Guide, but on a larger scale. William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jul 17 14:28:53 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 02:28:53 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind Book? Message-ID: That's the one! > Do you mean the Hawkwind Chronicles by Adrian Parr? > > His web site hasnt been updated all year. > > Where is he? > What of the book? > > Cheers > > Ben > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of William Duffy > Sent: 17 July 2001 15:48 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Hawkwind Book? > > > Hi all > > Anyone heard any news on the Hawkwind Book that was due out at the beginning > of the year? I can't recall the title, but it was something along the lines > of the Collectors Guide, but on a larger scale. > > William > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 17 16:16:48 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:16:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Oh Look Architectural Metaphor Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:55 PM Subject: Re: HW: Oh Look Architectural Metaphor > ............which is a good album, It is - and it's been ages since I played it. Sadly while I was re-remembering just how good it suddenly became totally scrambled and tracks 5 to the end were unplayable. Having had a close look at the disc it appears unblemished but I note that the label looks like a home-produced variety and I'm afraid that I'm probably a victim of the problem where the label glue has affected the plastic underneath and corrupted the data. Regrettably therefore I am going to have to replace it. More worryingly I'm going to have to replace it with one with a different form of the label. More worryingly still, I suspect no such item exists 8-(. > but have you heard the 'Viva' live album > yet - now that's just fantastic. > Andy Garibaldi. I might just be tempted but I'll mail you separately about this! cheers jill ps: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jul 17 19:03:23 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:03:23 -0600 Subject: Rarest Silver Machine In-Reply-To: <002301c10efd$69184ec0$ed52883e@jds> Message-ID: dear people the usual message that I haven't forgotten about anyone I am currently living in terror of mortality, until hopefully around August 13, and can't function properly (and I never do very well anyway) until I am clear of fear anywho If any of you Hawkwind and Spacerock experts would like to take a peep at the rarest Hawkwind Sliver Machine picture sleeve that you will probably ever get to see, take a peep at my Collecter site (it's IRANIAN) I am not asking you to join or anything, cause I know you all hate me through and through (well, most, not all)......also, you would probably be bored to tears there, unless you have the Hawkwind Kollektor bug REAL bad... our plan is to rotate the homepage picture once every week peace and I AM SORRY for my constant disappearing act and personal inability to live like a Human here it is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OPA-LOKA From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue Jul 17 18:44:34 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:44:34 -0400 Subject: BOC: BOC on the Biscuit!! GEt out your tape decks!! Message-ID: July 14, 2001 Next week, the week of July 16, King Biscuit Radio will be presenting an archive BOC set, including recordings from 1975 - 1986. The show is broadcast on different days depending on the station. A list of stations that carry King Biscuit Radio can be found on the King Biscuit Website. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue Jul 17 19:12:25 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:12:25 -0400 Subject: BOC: BOC on the biscuit -- the site Message-ID: oops, forgot to put the addresss of the site that can tell you who plays it when: http://www.kingbiscuitradio.com/radionew.html also: it was recorded live in Albany, NY October 1975, March 1979 at NYC's Palladium nightclub and in July of 1986. From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Jul 17 18:53:40 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:53:40 EDT Subject: BOC: BOC on the Biscuit!! GEt out your tape decks!! Message-ID: My local classic rock station must be in a time warp. They played it last Saturday. Good show, I thought. Joe From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue Jul 17 19:17:41 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:17:41 -0400 Subject: BOC: BOC on the Biscuit!! GEt out your tape decks!! In-Reply-To: <15.173c9e5e.28861bf4@aol.com> Message-ID: At 18:53 7.17.01 EDT, you wrote: >My local classic rock station must be in a time warp. They played it last >Saturday. > >Good show, I thought. > >Joe Cool... could you privde any clue what the tunes were? As always, Albany doesnt carry the show (or anything cool for that matter), but we do have Vannila ICE and Colin Hay from Men at Work. "Nobody rocks like Albany" (thank god :P) Jason PS: The Fuze Box in albany is starting live bands again during the week (on thrus i think) so all is not quite lost yet. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jul 17 19:18:22 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:18:22 -0400 Subject: BOC: BOC on the biscuit -- the site Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:12:25 -0400, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: >it was recorded live in Albany, NY October 1975, >March 1979 at NYC's Palladium nightclub and in > July of 1986. Didn't the 1986 King Biscuit show contain a performance of "Wings Of Mercury"? (closest thing to an official release ... ?) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Jul 17 19:38:15 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:38:15 EDT Subject: BOC: BOC on the Biscuit!! GEt out your tape decks!! Message-ID: Songs. . .Lemmy remember . . . (har, har) R.U. Ready 2 Rock --SEE era from NY. Eric does the "we've come to [insert city name] for one reason . . ." spiel. I was under the impression the rest were Club Ninja era 1986 from CA, I think White Flags Dancin' in the Ruins Take Me Away Godzilla Wings of Mercury Shadow Warrior (Don't Fear) The Reaper That's roughly the order of play. That's the first time I've heard WoM. Good song! Joe From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Jul 17 19:50:10 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:50:10 EDT Subject: BOC: BOC on the biscuit -- the site Message-ID: In a message dated 7/17/01 6:18:50 PM US Eastern Standard Time, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > Didn't the 1986 King Biscuit show contain a performance of "Wings Of > Mercury"? (closest thing to an official release ... ?) > > Yep, it's there. Joe From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Tue Jul 17 20:53:25 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 20:53:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: SLOTERDIJK to return to Long Island 8/4!!!! Message-ID: We have several dates in the works, but only the following is confirmed: Saturday August 4th: 'The Wrong Way Inn', Amityville, New York (Long Island) www.wrongwayinn.com (613) 798-9132 Other bands to perform: SOS www.sosnyc.com Finally Balanced ( Tentative) (members of Canis Minor) Other dates still to be confimed: Philadelphia: August 7th, in support of 'The Alchemysts' and Aytobach Kreisor. You can help make this one happen by calling 'The Pontiac' and letting them know you are planning to attend!!! (215) 925-4053 Long Branch, New Jersey, 'Hooligans': August 6th with 'The Alchemysts', Aytobach Kreisor, and others. This show is still being worked out. We are hoping to make it happen. If you live along the Jersey coast or the northern part of the state this would be a great time!!!! details will be announced once the show is confirmed. peace, Mike Burro (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 18 07:12:12 2001 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 11:12:12 -0000 Subject: BEN ! I've lost your number! Message-ID: Sorry I aint been in contact with you for a while!My mobile got nicked and your no. was on it!Give me a bell! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Jul 18 19:40:35 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:40:35 BST Subject: HW: Camping at Canterbury - Saturday 18 August Message-ID: I've ordered my ticket for the Canterbury Sound Festival. Could someone kindly give me the name and phone number of the campsite which a few of you have already pre-booked at. Many thanks Mick PS looking at the Festival website, it seems a DVD is to be made of the HW performance. May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Wed Jul 18 15:16:26 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:16:26 -0400 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner Message-ID: >2. Pressurehed - Silver Bird/Mastodon >(Philips, Pressurehed) 1994 Cleopatra. So, this is a cover that doesn't appear elsewhere and its f*ing fantastic - nuts, now I have to get the double CD. With Pressurehed apparently defunct, I guess its unlikely to appear on any band compilations, the way a lot of hard-to-find Farflung stuff popped up on So Many Minds. Incidently, I thought P'Head were one of the rare cases where the use of drum machines didn't really detract from the sound - Len DelRio seemed to have a knack for programming the things. >6.Nik Turner-- "Sun Jester" (Transglobal Friends and Relations; > Transparency Records) >7.Nik Turner-- "Yrckoon" (Transglobal F/R) > Nik Turner-- "Dream Worker" (Transglobal Friends/Relations; > Transparency) Is this the new double '90s collection? Presumably with some tracks having backing by Farflung/Pressurehed? How is it overall? Is Sun Jester like the BOC tune? Is Yrckoon like HW's CotBS? Tell us more - enquiring minds want to know ... or don't - what the hell, we know we're going to get this anyway... Stephan NP: Pharaoh Overlord - #1 hypno-improv-stoner-rock from finland ***** (5 stars) file under psychedelic. the Mystery Shopper enters Slow City, eating Mangrove root and drinking Alcohol warmed over a Blue Flame, while the Transatlantic Landslide continues Non-Stop. oh Yeah. From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jul 18 15:49:18 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:49:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Camping at Canterbury - Saturday 18 August Message-ID: Painters Farm Caravan & Camping site. Map Ref TQ990591 on the OS map no. 178 Painters Forstal, nr Faversham, ME13 0EG Tel: 01796 532995 At least, that's the one I phoned! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Crook To: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: Re: HW: Camping at Canterbury - Saturday 18 August > I've ordered my ticket for the Canterbury Sound Festival. Could someone kindly give me the name and phone number of the campsite which a few of you have already pre-booked at. > > Many thanks > Mick > PS looking at the Festival website, it seems a DVD is to be made of the HW performance. > > May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com > From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Jul 18 16:24:24 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:24:24 +0100 Subject: BEN ! I've lost your number! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ben's numbers: land line: 020 7691 3245 mobile 07980 806488 cheers ben -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of alan day Sent: 18 July 2001 12:12 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: BEN ! I've lost your number! Sorry I aint been in contact with you for a while!My mobile got nicked and your no. was on it!Give me a bell! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Jul 18 17:36:55 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:36:55 +0100 Subject: BEN ! I've lost your number! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh S**t I didnt realise that was to the ENTIRE group!!!!!! Oh well there it is, stupid or what!! Ben -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Ben Fagin Sent: 18 July 2001 21:24 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: BEN ! I've lost your number! ben's numbers: land line: 020 7691 3245 mobile 07980 806488 cheers ben -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of alan day Sent: 18 July 2001 12:12 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: BEN ! I've lost your number! Sorry I aint been in contact with you for a while!My mobile got nicked and your no. was on it!Give me a bell! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Jul 18 17:34:26 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:34:26 -0400 Subject: HW: Camping at Canterbury - Saturday 18 August Message-ID: Thanks Jill, I'll give 'em a ring! Mick > Painters Farm Caravan & Camping site. Map Ref TQ990591 on the OS map >no. 178 >Painters Forstal, nr Faversham, ME13 0EG >Tel: 01796 532995 >At least, that's the one I phoned! >jill -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Thu Jul 19 00:26:37 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 00:26:37 -0400 Subject: Rarest Silver Machine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Looks a bit like my UK one? Limited edition....one of one million!! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of mike c Sent: 17 July 2001 19:03 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Rarest Silver Machine dear people the usual message that I haven't forgotten about anyone I am currently living in terror of mortality, until hopefully around August 13, and can't function properly (and I never do very well anyway) until I am clear of fear anywho If any of you Hawkwind and Spacerock experts would like to take a peep at the rarest Hawkwind Sliver Machine picture sleeve that you will probably ever get to see, take a peep at my Collecter site (it's IRANIAN) I am not asking you to join or anything, cause I know you all hate me through and through (well, most, not all)......also, you would probably be bored to tears there, unless you have the Hawkwind Kollektor bug REAL bad... our plan is to rotate the homepage picture once every week peace and I AM SORRY for my constant disappearing act and personal inability to live like a Human here it is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OPA-LOKA From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Jul 18 21:00:26 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:00:26 -0600 Subject: Rarest Silver Machine In-Reply-To: <000601c1100a$ffe0e250$24122cc3@thrupoint.net> Message-ID: "Looks a bit like my UK one? Limited edition....one of one million!!" yeah, but at least yours isn't purple puke passion!!!!! (lol!) that single from Iran is SOOOOOOO rare..... there will be more flashy stuff up shortly, maybe not as rare!!! cheers ps,,,any info on new releases of IN YOUR AREA (apparently a USA one), the re-released "Best Of" (17 tracker I believe) also wanting info on Calvert Freq +2 recent re-release? thanks in advance mike c From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Jul 18 20:27:14 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 01:27:14 +0100 Subject: Rarest Silver Machine In-Reply-To: <000601c1100a$ffe0e250$24122cc3@thrupoint.net> Message-ID: amazing, what is it's value. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of ejobson Sent: 19 July 2001 05:27 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Rarest Silver Machine Looks a bit like my UK one? Limited edition....one of one million!! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of mike c Sent: 17 July 2001 19:03 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Rarest Silver Machine dear people the usual message that I haven't forgotten about anyone I am currently living in terror of mortality, until hopefully around August 13, and can't function properly (and I never do very well anyway) until I am clear of fear anywho If any of you Hawkwind and Spacerock experts would like to take a peep at the rarest Hawkwind Sliver Machine picture sleeve that you will probably ever get to see, take a peep at my Collecter site (it's IRANIAN) I am not asking you to join or anything, cause I know you all hate me through and through (well, most, not all)......also, you would probably be bored to tears there, unless you have the Hawkwind Kollektor bug REAL bad... our plan is to rotate the homepage picture once every week peace and I AM SORRY for my constant disappearing act and personal inability to live like a Human here it is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OPA-LOKA From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Jul 18 22:27:06 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:27:06 -0600 Subject: Rarest Silver Machine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "amazing, what is it's value.": these are difficult questions, as Hawkwind stuff tends to be even rarer than more mainstream artists, and since that copy is the only one we know to be "known to the western world", I can say that it's minimum value is around $500.00 USA (this is a Mike Coleman pricing) I am not sure what amount was actually traded ..... it's just SOOO RARE that's why I drew attention to it, and in this era of digital camera's....why not? m c From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Jul 18 21:58:56 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 02:58:56 +0100 Subject: Rarest Silver Machine Message-ID: Indeed. I believe I've got one of only three (AFAIK) ever pressed "Huddersfield" editions - the intro (in the run in grooves, rather than the song itself) goes (and this is the best way I can describe it) goes "fssshkkkk-ta-krrr - fsssshkkkk-ta-krrr - pink-fsssshhh - ta - kpkpkp" before the obligatory long "wawawawawaWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWsssshhhhhhhwwawawawawa blanga blanga blanga..." intro. It also carries a sticker saying "Stubbs Second Hand Shop - 70p", which I understand should add a couple of quid to the value. Funnily enough, my copy of Psychadelic Warlords/It's so Easy on UA has no picture sleeve, but (get this!), actually on the centre label, there's a similar sticker, reading "Stubbs Second Hand Shop - 85p". If any readers could advise me as to the value of this item I'd be most interested as I'm getting married next year and may need to realise a few assets. (if it helps, there is sound on the run in grooves on this one too - a sort of "Ivor The Engine" 'FFsshhht'kupf, FFsshht'kupf, FFsshhh'tkupf' sound - I've never heard another version *quite* like it. (Oh, and the cardboard sleeve reads "Sly And The Family Stone".) Is it in the codex? :-) Cheers, Rich. (I only woke up a minute ago, in need of a piss, and some of the details above are only from memory. I'm going back to a nice warm woman now. Aaaahhh, the joys of ADSL...) > "amazing, what is it's value.": > > these are difficult questions, as Hawkwind stuff tends to be even rarer > than more mainstream artists, and since that copy is the only one we know > to be "known to the western world", I can say that it's minimum value is > around $500.00 USA (this is a Mike Coleman pricing) I am not sure what > amount was actually traded ..... > > it's just SOOO RARE > > that's why I drew attention to it, and in this era of digital > camera's....why not? > > m c > From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Jul 18 23:27:06 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:27:06 -0700 Subject: HW: Unelectric Tepee In-Reply-To: <9ipra2+qovv@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On this site's opening page (first picture flashed, and also found after clicking 'tradeshows' then on the flyer) is an image which reminded me of "Electric Tepee" cover.... http://www.katakismet.com/portfolios/index.html KevinSommers From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Jul 19 04:35:15 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Apache Con.) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 02:35:15 -0600 Subject: HW: Unelectric Tepee In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Indeed! what I like is when I go to "tradeshows", and try to enlarge the flyer, it only calls up 3 little arrows, pointing upwards and outwards..... Indian Arrowheads, no doubt.. ("Crazy Force") ******************************************************************************** On this site's opening page (first picture flashed, and also found after clicking 'tradeshows' then on the flyer) is an image which reminded me of Electric Tepee" cover.... http://www.katakismet.com/portfolios/index.html KevinSommers From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Jul 19 04:44:40 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Apache Con.) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 02:44:40 -0600 Subject: Rarest Silver Machine In-Reply-To: <045401c10ff6$5f322da0$6d7d79d5@bpnf001> Message-ID: Rich: "Indeed. I believe I've got one of only three (AFAIK) ever pressed "Huddersfield" editions - the intro (in the run in grooves, rather than the song itself) goes (and this is the best way I can describe it) goes "fssshkkkk-ta-krrr - fsssshkkkk-ta-krrr - pink-fsssshhh - ta - kpkpkp" before the obligatory long "wawawawawaWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWsssshhhhhhhwwawawawawa blanga blanga blanga..." intro." I *really* love the foreign ones, because the vinyl they are made from is extra noisy inherently, and as I age, the 3am drink/rock sessions are fewer, so there is no better way to keep my flag high (in Suburbia) than the bang of the needle PER TRACK and the volume level required to deal with the little devils.... Lol!! you should play yours at the wedding!!!!! m c From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Jul 19 06:18:32 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (The Buggaloos) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 04:18:32 -0600 Subject: Iranian Silver M label In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20010718191626.006af314@pop.pipeline.com> Message-ID: If anybody likes to look at it, the Iranian Silver Machine label is now visible... I just saw it for the first time....I do like the label better than any others I have seen....and I have seen a lot.... there are some pics of patches in the files section, incorrectly listed as Mike C's collection, and these are visible to public, non-members peace mike c From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Jul 19 06:19:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (The Buggaloos) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 04:19:57 -0600 Subject: Iranian Silver M label Message-ID: and the link is this (again) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OPA-LOKA ps-sorry (DAHHH) From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Jul 19 06:24:59 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 11:24:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Iranian Silver M label In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now, if I'd actually seen any second-hand record shops in Tehran, I'd have known what to look for... -- Andy Ob7": The New Christs - "On Top Of Me" c/w "Groovy Times" www.andygilham.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Jul 19 07:39:54 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 05:39:54 -0600 Subject: HW: Iranian Silver M label In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Now, if I'd actually seen any second-hand record shops in Tehran, I'd have known what to look for..." -- Andy yeah really.... the other side is in arabic or arabian or whatever it is (I just found out) that'll be there in next day or 2... I guess my friend is going to put a new thing per day or 2 OK....I annoy you further on this matter NOT. m c From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 19 07:24:02 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:24:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Iranian Silver M label In-Reply-To: Andy Gilham's message of Thu, 19 Jul 2001 11:24:59 +0100 Message-ID: Andy Gilham writes: > Now, if I'd actually seen any second-hand record shops in Tehran, I'd have > known what to look for... But trust me onm this, you do *NOT* want to get stoned there. FoFP From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Jul 19 07:27:52 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:27:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Iranian Silver M label In-Reply-To: <200107191124.MAA10125@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > But trust me onm this, you do *NOT* want to get stoned there. Hey, couple of puffs on a hookah, and I was off with the hashashim... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Jul 19 08:40:05 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:40:05 +0800 Subject: HW: Iranian Silver M label Message-ID: > But trust me onm this, you do *NOT* want to get stoned there. > > FoFP > Get your rocks here; big ones small one.... From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Thu Jul 19 09:12:59 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 15:12:59 +0200 Subject: HW: Darxtar Info Message-ID: Hej, I just got off the phone with Soren from Darxtar. The band still exists and their new CD (no vinyl) will be released in September on the Record Heaven label out of Malmo, Sweden. It is 74 minutes of music. The music was recorded between Dec. 96 and Dec. 98, with some overdubs and playing around added in the years between. He promises that the fans will enjoy this one. As far as the bands back catalog, it is all completely sold out. Record Heaven may release a compilation of their material next year. The band also hopes to play some gigs in 2002, including the Hawkfan Festival in Hamburg Germany and a the SPace Rock Festival, we hope to have in Copenhagen during the Winter. That is all the news. He said he would keep me posted. scott ObCD: Ole Lukkoye- St. Petersburg 2000 From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Thu Jul 19 11:07:09 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (Jean-Charles Moriaud) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:07:09 +0200 Subject: COTHM: wow! In-Reply-To: <117.149460e.28774547@aol.com> Message-ID: I got my copy of COTHM finally at lunchtime yesterday. First, what a shock to see a BOC album in the display where you usually find anything but BOC... Very nice feeling. Then I was nervous when walking back to the car, just trying not to expect too much of this album. I was disappointed, I must admit, by the previous one, lacking great lyrics and typical BOC songs that for me makes BOC so special like Veterans or The Vigil... But hey, this one will stay in my CD player for a while. First, the bass lines! What a fantastic job Danny put together! Second the voice. I was never a fan of Buck singing, and I am not too impressed by "his" songs, but superb job too from Eric. Then the guitars are perfect, just lacking one solo you'll never forget - maybe on the live versions. Allen and Bobby are well here too, nice job. I am truly astonished by the cohesion of the group Being French, I am basically concentrating on the music at first, just because I don't get most of the lyrics until I can read them ;-). They look OK as far as I could understand, but I am sure they are not matching the ones of the earlier albums. Never mind. This album rocks! Anyway, I am happy to be able to share my pleasure with the list. I wish they will tour in Europe as quick as possible. Pardon my french! BOC yours, Jean-Chares Moriaud _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jul 19 11:24:18 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 11:24:18 EDT Subject: COTHM: wow! In-Reply-To: <483579d1beb7ec8670773e842ebe1bbf3b56c7d7@> Message-ID: On 19 Jul 2001, at 17:07, Jean-Charles Moriaud wrote: > First, the bass lines! What a fantastic job Danny put together! You Betcha! Danny is a great bassist. I was hoping he'd make an impact on CotHM, and wasn't disappointed. Catch the dude live some time, and you'll REALLY be blown away... Second > the voice. I was never a fan of Buck singing, and I am not too > impressed by "his" songs, but superb job too from Eric. Then the > guitars are perfect, just lacking one solo you'll never forget - maybe > on the live versions. Allen and Bobby are well here too, nice job. I > am truly astonished by the cohesion of the group > Good point. HF sounded like a bunch of songs with no cohesion. CotHM really sounds like an ALBUM... > Being French, I am basically concentrating on the music at first, just > because I don't get most of the lyrics until I can read them ;-). You won't get a lot of them AFTER you read them! But don't worry, I speak English and I don't get Shirley's lyrics... They > look OK as far as I could understand, but I am sure they are not > matching the ones of the earlier albums. Never mind. This album rocks! > > Anyway, I am happy to be able to share my pleasure with the list. I > wish they will tour in Europe as quick as possible. > > Pardon my french! > Pas de tout! They don't tour much here either, unfortunately. They've been concentrating on outdoor festival shows all summer, and aren't playing anywhere close chez moi... From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Jul 19 11:54:33 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 11:54:33 -0400 Subject: BOC: COTHM: wow! In-Reply-To: <483579d1beb7ec8670773e842ebe1bbf3b56c7d7@> Message-ID: Jean-Charles, you're in luck! > Anyway, I am happy to be able to share my pleasure with the list. I wish > they will tour in Europe as quick as possible. >From http://www.blueoystercult.com/ > July 11, 2001 > > On this week's Rockline interview, Eric Bloom revealed that the band will be > working on a live DVD release for the future. Also he mentioned the band will > be visiting Europe (specifically mentioning England, France and Germany) this > Fall. Specifics aren't yet available. Look for the dates to be posted when > they're announced, in the Road section. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Thu Jul 19 11:56:54 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (Jean-Charles Moriaud) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:56:54 +0200 Subject: COTHM: wow! In-Reply-To: <3B56C361.27586.E424A1@localhost> Message-ID: Hey, where are you? In the UK? I saw them last time they came in Munich (99?) and before in Paris (96) and in Lausanne (86?). Best show was in Lausanne, then Paris, then Munich where they played for a very small audience, in a very small venue, and a very short show. I was quite disappointed, but I still love them and I wish they come for a proper European tour, I mean with ads, press coverage... You never know ;-) Cheers, Jean-Charles _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Thu Jul 19 12:02:08 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (Jean-Charles Moriaud) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:02:08 +0200 Subject: BOC: COTHM: wow! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Jean-Charles, you're in luck! This is great news. I wish they'll do it the proper way. Not like the past two times I saw them (Paris 86, Munich 89). No advertising, no press coverage, small venues... They deserve a better management and marketing. Cheers, Jean-Charles _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Thu Jul 19 13:29:12 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:29:12 -0400 Subject: BOC: COTHM: wow! Message-ID: >> On this week's Rockline interview, Eric Bloom revealed that the band will be >> working on a live DVD release for the future. Also he mentioned the band will >> be visiting Europe (specifically mentioning England, France and Germany) this >> Fall. Specifics aren't yet available. Look for the dates to be posted when >> they're announced, in the Road section. Alright! That would be great to finally get to see them. Never had a chance yet. And hey, Jean-Charles, maybe I'll see you there... I'm French too :-) Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Thu Jul 19 17:14:41 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:14:41 -0400 Subject: Alchemysts/Aytocbach Kreisor, Philadelphia 8/7 Message-ID: I am writing this note to inform you all that this gig is now confirmed, however Sloterdijk has been blackballed from the supporting lineup, due to a poor draw the last time we were there; a monday night, with electrical storms. Nonetheless I encourage you to support these bands.. I have no idea who the girl that does the bookings will add to the lineup. I worked hard to get this booking and I'm glad I could help the others..Perhaps we will still team up with them in NJ. For complete details of this newly confirmed gig, visit www.Rubricrecords.com The venue is 'The Pontiac' 304 South St, Philadelphia PA...(215) 925-4053 Peace, MIke www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From chrisr at TIAC.NET Thu Jul 19 18:06:02 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:06:02 -0400 Subject: HW: Darxtar Info Message-ID: That is great news! I have been waiting to hear something new from Darxtar! Now Scott: Do you have any Bari/Outskirts updates? Please? Chris "SHLL (Scott Heller)" wrote: > > Hej, > > I just got off the phone with Soren from Darxtar. The band still exists and > their new CD (no vinyl) will be released in September on the Record Heaven > label out of Malmo, Sweden. It is 74 minutes of music. The music was > recorded between Dec. 96 and Dec. 98, with some overdubs and playing around > added in the years between. He promises that the fans will enjoy this one. > As far as the bands back catalog, it is all completely sold out. Record > Heaven may release a compilation of their material next year. The band also > hopes to play some gigs in 2002, including the Hawkfan Festival in Hamburg > Germany and a the SPace Rock Festival, we hope to have in Copenhagen during > the Winter. > > That is all the news. He said he would keep me posted. > > scott > > ObCD: Ole Lukkoye- St. Petersburg 2000 From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Jul 20 07:41:57 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 07:41:57 EDT Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner Message-ID: In a message dated 7/18/01 12:00:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, stemfors at PIPELINE.COM writes: > 2. Pressurehed - Silver Bird/Mastodon > >(Philips, Pressurehed) 1994 Cleopatra. > > So, this is a cover that doesn't appear elsewhere and its f*ing fantastic - > nuts, now I have to get the double CD. With Pressurehed apparently defunct, > I guess its unlikely to appear on any band compilations, the way a lot of > hard-to-find Farflung stuff popped up on So Many Minds. Incidently, I > thought P'Head were one of the rare cases where the use of drum machines > didn't really detract from the sound - Len DelRio seemed to have a knack for > programming the things. > Indeed. I think there'a always a chance of a P-Hed reformation...we may have to wait for '90s nostalgia to kick in, but nostalgia is quicker arriving these days... :) Let me know if you can tune in to SDNC this Sat, and I'll play it on the radio for ya... (I know, Sat-night computer-radio...who needs it...) > >6.Nik Turner-- "Sun Jester" (Transglobal Friends and Relations; > > Transparency Records) > >7.Nik Turner-- "Yrckoon" (Transglobal F/R) > > Nik Turner-- "Dream Worker" (Transglobal Friends/Relations; > > Transparency) > > Is this the new double '90s collection? Yes, on Transparency Records. alt. versions of '94 and '95 tours, also FF w/Nik stuff from '97 and a great version of FF's "Day of St Anthony's Fire" from the 2000 Spaceland gig (remember, Doug??). Presumably with some tracks having > backing by Farflung/Pressurehed? How is it overall? Is Sun Jester like the > BOC tune? Is Yrckoon like HW's CotBS? Tell us more - enquiring minds want to > know ... or don't - what the hell, we know we're going to get this anyway... > the double-CD starts off w/four studio tracks from NT band '95. first one is w/A. Powell on vox, pretty good pop-space-rock, sorta Quark-era style... then 3 Moorcock tracks (none w/MM himself). Sun Jester is musically unrelated to BOC, lyrics are the same (like Nik's version w/Darxtar). "Yrckoon" totally jams, based on P-Hed's "Slo Blo"... Chuck > Stephan > From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Jul 20 11:29:14 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (HeyICanWorkThisThingToo) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 08:29:14 -0700 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'd heard rumors a while back about some songs that Nik wrote for 'The Chronicle Of The Black Sword' before he was booted from the band appearing on a CD...could these be them? It would be great to hear some 'new' songs from Nik rather than the constant redoing of the same old Hawkwind tunes... KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Chuck Rosenberg Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 4:42 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner > >6.Nik Turner-- "Sun Jester" (Transglobal Friends and Relations; > > Transparency Records) > >7.Nik Turner-- "Yrckoon" (Transglobal F/R) > > Nik Turner-- "Dream Worker" (Transglobal Friends/Relations; > > Transparency) > > Is this the new double '90s collection? Yes, on Transparency Records. alt. versions of '94 and '95 tours, also FF w/Nik stuff from '97 and a great version of FF's "Day of St Anthony's Fire" from the 2000 Spaceland gig (remember, Doug??). Presumably with some tracks having > backing by Farflung/Pressurehed? How is it overall? Is Sun Jester like the > BOC tune? Is Yrckoon like HW's CotBS? Tell us more - enquiring minds want to > know ... or don't - what the hell, we know we're going to get this anyway... > the double-CD starts off w/four studio tracks from NT band '95. first one is w/A. Powell on vox, pretty good pop-space-rock, sorta Quark-era style... then 3 Moorcock tracks (none w/MM himself). Sun Jester is musically unrelated to BOC, lyrics are the same (like Nik's version w/Darxtar). "Yrckoon" totally jams, based on P-Hed's "Slo Blo"... Chuck > Stephan > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jul 20 18:06:44 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 16:06:44 -0600 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: uh..I am half awake but thought I'd say 'The Great Sun Jester' is a poem performed on the Hawxtar CD. Does this tell anything? if not, whoops, I apologize luv mike c From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Jul 20 18:45:48 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:45:48 -0400 Subject: hawkwind alumnus Message-ID: just found recently in a discount music store (music 4 less) an italian cd by `high tide' called "interesting times" $2.99 american. lo and behold, one of the 2 members of band was simon house. apparently an italian reissue of a 1986 album. 8 of 10 tracks ok,but singer (not simon) really not a good singing voice. 2 bonus tracks written by simon really cook...! cd still available at italian website...$13 + shipping ($4 to n.&s. america) anybody else heard this...what do you think?? From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jul 20 20:07:20 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:07:20 -0600 Subject: hawkwind alumnus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think the "Interesting Times" CD is FANTASTIC, and seeing as you have found the recent re-issued CD in SUPER DELUXE digipak, with new cover artwork which is great, and at that price, I say full steam ahead......GET IT GET IT whoever you are that needs it.... this is the one other HT CD that I value alot, next to the 2 original LP's just my 2 cents mike c ps--the singing can grow on you, as can the eradic guitar pss-I know about the NEW comp, but just ordered it from Andy G From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 20 19:22:33 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 19:22:33 -0400 Subject: HW: hawkwind alumnus Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:45:48 -0400, Tim wrote: >just found recently in a discount music store (music 4 less) an italian cd >by `high tide' called "interesting times" $2.99 american. lo and behold, >one of the 2 members of band was simon house. Actually, that would be one of the FOUR (original) members ... Guitarist Tony Hill had previously been in a GREAT psychedelic band called The Misunderstood (who had a song called "Children of the Sun" that has no connection to the song on XiSoS). Bassist Pete Pavli has been Michael Moorcock's main "Deep Fix" collaborator (often as cellist - the parts of 'New Worlds Fair' with House/violin and Pavli/cello are some of my favorite parts of that album) for years, although he's not directly connected with Hawkwind. The band existed around 69/70, so Simon House was a High Tide alumnus when he joined Hawkwind. Between High Tide and Hawkwind, Simon briefly joined the Third Ear Band for their third album, the soundtrack to Roman Polanski's 'MacBeth' (an especially bloody rendition, as it was Polanski's first directorial effort after Sharon Tate's murder). Previous High Tide discussions on this list can be found in the archives at: http://listserv.spc.edu/ >apparently an italian reissue of a 1986 album. Yes, a half-reunion. >anybody else heard this...what do you think?? It's OK - a bit too much programmed synth backing (like Simon's recent solo efforts) for my taste. The two original High Tide albums, 'Sea Shanties' and 'High Tide' are far better (real band efforts) IMO. And the 'Precious Cargo' album of outtakes/soundtrack work from the band's original incarnation is even better yet. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 20 19:57:33 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 19:57:33 EDT Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner Message-ID: I think someone may have covered this already, but as far as the four studio tracks that open the new incredible Nik Turner Global Friends and Relations CD: The first one DELAY features vocals by Alan Powell and is space pop, an uptempo rock song. The second is SUN JESTER and is the Moorcock poem recited against a musical accompaniment, and as the ever astute Mr.Coleman mentioned earlier it is quite similar to the version on the Hawkxtar CD but with a unique backing music provided here by the Pressurehed crew. The third and fourth are the two tracks Nik wrote for The Chronicles of the Black Sword album, but which were never used after he departed the band. They are YRCKOON, which is not accurate to Moorcock as far as spelling, where it is Yrkoon, Elric's evil cousin. This song is awesome. The other Elric track is THE SEA KING and bears no relation to the track that eventually wound up with that name on the record. The rest of the CD will appeal, I suspect, to many Hawkwind fans, as it is mainly Hawkind covers performed live with various combinations of the Pressurehed/Farflung family as well as Del Dettmar on synth-axe, and Alan Powell on drums for some, and Simon House on violin on a number of tracks. I thought quite a lot of it was superior to the already released Nik Turner Space Ritual thing, and PAST OR FUTURE . The performances range from San Jose California to Holland, Japan, Strange Daze Festival, and quite a few US gigs. There are also performance of a couple of Farflung tunes with Nik playing live with them. Hope that tells you something, Kevin. Peace to all, Eli Friedman In a message dated 7/20/01 10:25:41 AM, novadrive at HOME.COM writes: << I'd heard rumors a while back about some songs that Nik wrote for 'The Chronicle Of The Black Sword' before he was booted from the band appearing on a CD...could these be them? It would be great to hear some 'new' songs from Nik rather than the constant redoing of the same old Hawkwind tunes... KevinSommers >> From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jul 20 21:32:35 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 19:32:35 -0600 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner/Eli F In-Reply-To: Message-ID: dear Eli Thanks for this please keep this up YOU are the man (certainly one of them, and now I am wondering if I should run to get this, and give my second, re-imported copy to one of my friends ..if I can find one!!! hehe!!) m c PLEASE KEEP ME POSTED ON THIS GROUP From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 20 21:01:01 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:01:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 19:57:33 EDT, Eli Friedman wrote: >The performances range from San Jose California ... Does it include the version of "Silver Machine" they did there with the members of SLEEP guesting onstage? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 20 21:45:08 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 01:45:08 +0000 Subject: HOW ABOUT SOME NEW STUFF FOR A CHANGE Message-ID: NEW ICU/ JUDGE TREV/NIK TURNER CD?s AVAILABLE >From http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk - REAL festival music - our new website. ?the cd?s below, and many more festy band cd?s available here. Pay Pal accepted. JUDGEMENT AND THUNDER 2 Inner City Unit/Imperial Pompadours More hits from Judge Trev and Nik Turner including the highly illegal ?Insolence across the Nation? REVOLUTION AND REBELLION Inner City Unit/Atomgods The revolutionary works of Judge Trev ? ! Also ?Now You Know the Score? Judge Trevs ICU 1997 ?7.99 each + postage Send check, PO, IMO to: Real Festival Music 34a Upper Lewes Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN23FH UK Postage 1 CD UK 44p Europe 96p Rest of World ?1.32p 2 CDs UK 66p Europe ?1.50p Rest of World ?2.30p 3 CDs UK 87p Europe ?2.00p Rest of World ?3.00p Coming soon? ?GOD AND MAN? new major album from Judge Trev, Featuring Nik Turner, Harvey Bainbridge, Ron Tree, Dino Ferari _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 20 22:19:34 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 22:19:34 EDT Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner Message-ID: Yes it does indeed include that, and it rages big time. There are 5 tracks all told from that San Jose gig, all Hawkwind covers, all fantastic. They are Orgone Accumulator, You Shouldn't Do That, Silver Machine, D-Rider, and The Right Stuff. I thought that each was about the best Nik Turner 90's versions of these songs that I'd heard. Just great. IMHO, Eli PS You get to hear Nik and Tommy bring the Sleep guys on on the CD. In a message dated 7/20/01 8:02:05 PM, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: << Does it include the version of "Silver Machine" they did there with the members of SLEEP guesting onstage? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com >> From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Jul 20 22:53:17 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 22:53:17 -0400 Subject: HW: hawkwind alumnus Message-ID: thanks for the input,doug. did't realize high tide had been around fron way back when. do you know if the albums you mentioned are available on cd? may have to check them out. tim Doug Pearson wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:45:48 -0400, Tim wrote: > >just found recently in a discount music store (music 4 less) an italian cd > >by `high tide' called "interesting times" $2.99 american. lo and behold, > >one of the 2 members of band was simon house. > > Actually, that would be one of the FOUR (original) members ... > Guitarist Tony Hill had previously been in a GREAT psychedelic band called > The Misunderstood (who had a song called "Children of the Sun" that has no > connection to the song on XiSoS). > Bassist Pete Pavli has been Michael Moorcock's main "Deep Fix" collaborator > (often as cellist - the parts of 'New Worlds Fair' with House/violin and > Pavli/cello are some of my favorite parts of that album) for years, > although he's not directly connected with Hawkwind. > > The band existed around 69/70, so Simon House was a High Tide alumnus when > he joined Hawkwind. Between High Tide and Hawkwind, Simon briefly joined > the Third Ear Band for their third album, the soundtrack to Roman > Polanski's 'MacBeth' (an especially bloody rendition, as it was Polanski's > first directorial effort after Sharon Tate's murder). > > Previous High Tide discussions on this list can be found in the archives at: > http://listserv.spc.edu/ > > >apparently an italian reissue of a 1986 album. > > Yes, a half-reunion. > > >anybody else heard this...what do you think?? > > It's OK - a bit too much programmed synth backing (like Simon's recent solo > efforts) for my taste. The two original High Tide albums, 'Sea Shanties' > and 'High Tide' are far better (real band efforts) IMO. And the 'Precious > Cargo' album of outtakes/soundtrack work from the band's original > incarnation is even better yet. > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Jul 20 23:07:04 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 23:07:04 EDT Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner Message-ID: In a message dated 7/20/2001 10:20:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, EliPXR5 at AOL.COM writes: << I thought that each was about the best Nik Turner 90's versions of these songs that I'd heard. Just great. IMHO, > Pulling back from the edge somewhat, eh pal? You contemplated the penalty for heresy and saw the light! I knew you would! Moses tomorrow...same time same place...I'll call as I cruise by........... B From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Sat Jul 21 04:32:56 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:32:56 +0100 Subject: HW: hawkwind alumnus Message-ID: It's crap. If you are looking for something that sounds like Hawkwind, anyway. Only 1 Simon House song as I recall, and that was OK. The rest of it (Tony Hill's stuff) I did not like at all. Reminded me of bad Bevis Frond. ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Pearson To: Sent: 21 July 2001 00:22 Subject: Re: HW: hawkwind alumnus > On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:45:48 -0400, Tim wrote: > >just found recently in a discount music store (music 4 less) an italian cd > >by `high tide' called "interesting times" $2.99 american. lo and behold, > >one of the 2 members of band was simon house. > >anybody else heard this...what do you think?? > > From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Sat Jul 21 07:27:41 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 06:27:41 -0500 Subject: HW: hawkwind alumnus Message-ID: SHU-FLY records in goldmine sells most of the HIGH TIDE thats available. He got me almost all of mine. If you need an address I can get it for you. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 9:53 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: hawkwind alumnus thanks for the input,doug. did't realize high tide had been around fron way back when. do you know if the albums you mentioned are available on cd? may have to check them out. tim Doug Pearson wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:45:48 -0400, Tim wrote: > >just found recently in a discount music store (music 4 less) an italian cd > >by `high tide' called "interesting times" $2.99 american. lo and behold, > >one of the 2 members of band was simon house. > > Actually, that would be one of the FOUR (original) members ... > Guitarist Tony Hill had previously been in a GREAT psychedelic band called > The Misunderstood (who had a song called "Children of the Sun" that has no > connection to the song on XiSoS). > Bassist Pete Pavli has been Michael Moorcock's main "Deep Fix" collaborator > (often as cellist - the parts of 'New Worlds Fair' with House/violin and > Pavli/cello are some of my favorite parts of that album) for years, > although he's not directly connected with Hawkwind. > > The band existed around 69/70, so Simon House was a High Tide alumnus when > he joined Hawkwind. Between High Tide and Hawkwind, Simon briefly joined > the Third Ear Band for their third album, the soundtrack to Roman > Polanski's 'MacBeth' (an especially bloody rendition, as it was Polanski's > first directorial effort after Sharon Tate's murder). > > Previous High Tide discussions on this list can be found in the archives at: > http://listserv.spc.edu/ > > >apparently an italian reissue of a 1986 album. > > Yes, a half-reunion. > > >anybody else heard this...what do you think?? > > It's OK - a bit too much programmed synth backing (like Simon's recent solo > efforts) for my taste. The two original High Tide albums, 'Sea Shanties' > and 'High Tide' are far better (real band efforts) IMO. And the 'Precious > Cargo' album of outtakes/soundtrack work from the band's original > incarnation is even better yet. > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From chrisr at TIAC.NET Sat Jul 21 07:35:17 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 07:35:17 -0400 Subject: BOC: Remasters Message-ID: Yesterday I finally got some of the BOC Remasters. I picked up Tyranny and Mutation, Secret Treaties and Agents of Fortune for $8.99 each. It is worth that just for the bonus tracks! I have only listened to T&M so far, but what great sound quality. I can't wait to get the first album and see how much that is improved. Chris From laura.waesche at CEXP.COM Sat Jul 21 17:50:53 2001 From: laura.waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:50:53 -0500 Subject: HW: hawkwind alumnus Message-ID: I would appreciate website, address,etc. Thanks! <<< Stephen Lindas 7/21 6:27a >>> SHU-FLY records in goldmine sells most of the HIGH TIDE thats available. He got me almost all of mine. If you need an address I can get it for you. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 9:53 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: hawkwind alumnus thanks for the input,doug. did't realize high tide had been around fron way back when. do you know if the albums you mentioned are available on cd? may have to check them out. tim Doug Pearson wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:45:48 -0400, Tim wrote: > >just found recently in a discount music store (music 4 less) an italian cd > >by `high tide' called "interesting times" $2.99 american. lo and behold, > >one of the 2 members of band was simon house. > > Actually, that would be one of the FOUR (original) members ... > Guitarist Tony Hill had previously been in a GREAT psychedelic band called > The Misunderstood (who had a song called "Children of the Sun" that has no > connection to the song on XiSoS). > Bassist Pete Pavli has been Michael Moorcock's main "Deep Fix" collaborator > (often as cellist - the parts of 'New Worlds Fair' with House/violin and > Pavli/cello are some of my favorite parts of that album) for years, > although he's not directly connected with Hawkwind. > > The band existed around 69/70, so Simon House was a High Tide alumnus when > he joined Hawkwind. Between High Tide and Hawkwind, Simon briefly joined > the Third Ear Band for their third album, the soundtrack to Roman > Polanski's 'MacBeth' (an especially bloody rendition, as it was Polanski's > first directorial effort after Sharon Tate's murder). > > Previous High Tide discussions on this list can be found in the archives at: > http://listserv.spc.edu/ > > >apparently an italian reissue of a 1986 album. > > Yes, a half-reunion. > > >anybody else heard this...what do you think?? > > It's OK - a bit too much programmed synth backing (like Simon's recent solo > efforts) for my taste. The two original High Tide albums, 'Sea Shanties' > and 'High Tide' are far better (real band efforts) IMO. And the 'Precious > Cargo' album of outtakes/soundtrack work from the band's original > incarnation is even better yet. > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Sun Jul 22 09:04:24 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 08:04:24 -0500 Subject: HW: hawkwind alumnus Message-ID: I'm not sure if they have a website. Here is the info I have, email-shufly6 at aol.com, address-SHU-FLY sounds, 142-09 38th ave, Flushing NY 11354, phone-(718)353-9420, fax-(718)888-0120. Hope they have what you need. I haven't ordered in a while, but they were fairly fast to process my orders. GOOD LUCK, CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Laura Waesche [mailto:laura.waesche at CEXP.COM] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 4:51 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: hawkwind alumnus I would appreciate website, address,etc. Thanks! <<< Stephen Lindas 7/21 6:27a >>> SHU-FLY records in goldmine sells most of the HIGH TIDE thats available. He got me almost all of mine. If you need an address I can get it for you. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 9:53 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: hawkwind alumnus thanks for the input,doug. did't realize high tide had been around fron way back when. do you know if the albums you mentioned are available on cd? may have to check them out. tim Doug Pearson wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:45:48 -0400, Tim wrote: > >just found recently in a discount music store (music 4 less) an italian cd > >by `high tide' called "interesting times" $2.99 american. lo and behold, > >one of the 2 members of band was simon house. > > Actually, that would be one of the FOUR (original) members ... > Guitarist Tony Hill had previously been in a GREAT psychedelic band called > The Misunderstood (who had a song called "Children of the Sun" that has no > connection to the song on XiSoS). > Bassist Pete Pavli has been Michael Moorcock's main "Deep Fix" collaborator > (often as cellist - the parts of 'New Worlds Fair' with House/violin and > Pavli/cello are some of my favorite parts of that album) for years, > although he's not directly connected with Hawkwind. > > The band existed around 69/70, so Simon House was a High Tide alumnus when > he joined Hawkwind. Between High Tide and Hawkwind, Simon briefly joined > the Third Ear Band for their third album, the soundtrack to Roman > Polanski's 'MacBeth' (an especially bloody rendition, as it was Polanski's > first directorial effort after Sharon Tate's murder). > > Previous High Tide discussions on this list can be found in the archives at: > http://listserv.spc.edu/ > > >apparently an italian reissue of a 1986 album. > > Yes, a half-reunion. > > >anybody else heard this...what do you think?? > > It's OK - a bit too much programmed synth backing (like Simon's recent solo > efforts) for my taste. The two original High Tide albums, 'Sea Shanties' > and 'High Tide' are far better (real band efforts) IMO. And the 'Precious > Cargo' album of outtakes/soundtrack work from the band's original > incarnation is even better yet. > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Jul 22 09:38:34 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 14:38:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Oh Look ! Track info request/Pressurehed Message-ID: The brand new David Bowie CD is an INSTRUMENTAL 'best of' and it's pretty darned fine by all accounts. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Rosenberg" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 11:25 AM Subject: Re: HW: Oh Look ! Track info request/Pressurehed > I also wonder about the Bowie (w/B. Eno) track "All Saints"--has there been > more material like this released? > > Chuck From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jul 23 05:03:02 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:03:02 +0100 Subject: HW: hawkwind alumnus In-Reply-To: <200107202322.TAA17976@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200107202322.TAA17976 at listserv.spc.edu>, Doug Pearson writes >Guitarist Tony Hill had previously been in a GREAT psychedelic band called >The Misunderstood (who had a song called "Children of the Sun" that has no >connection to the song on XiSoS). and Woronzow is about to issue his first studio album in 20 years! There's a jam track from the sessions on the new Terrascope cover disc. With Adrian Shaw on bass. and Nick S. on organ. go get it. Is there anyone here who doesn't get Terrascope? Surely not? Blimey! -- Jon From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 23 07:44:13 2001 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 11:44:13 +0000 Subject: can anyone help me an my loved one from london 2 canterbury sounds? Message-ID: My names Alan and I'm trying 2 get a lift with some like minded Hawkwind nuts to Canterbury sounds.I live in Wembley and there's me and my girlfriend Andrea.Anyone that can help will be rewarded!thanx! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jul 23 07:59:47 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:29:47 +0930 Subject: can anyone help me an my loved one from london 2 canterbury sounds? Message-ID: I can't help you much but can I have a reward anyway??? tee hee Mike y B ----- Original Message ----- From: alan day To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 9:14 PM Subject: can anyone help me an my loved one from london 2 canterbury sounds? > My names Alan and I'm trying 2 get a lift with some like minded Hawkwind > nuts to Canterbury sounds.I live in Wembley and there's me and my girlfriend > Andrea.Anyone that can help will be rewarded!thanx! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 23 08:32:04 2001 From: buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM (Rus Hall) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:32:04 -0400 Subject: Help Support BOC Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Jul 23 08:46:06 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:46:06 -0400 Subject: Help Support BOC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Right now BOC is in second place. What's worse, they are trailing Nelson. >Aargh! Help right this wrong! Now c'mon Rus, you can't really say there's any shame in that. I mean, they're Ricky Nelson's kids. They're superstars by birth. ;-) Of course if they did an exit poll, BOC would win in a landslide! Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio There is no Dana, only Zuul http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 23 09:07:13 2001 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:07:13 +0100 Subject: BOC: St.Cecilia Message-ID: I've had this CD for about three weeks now, and I'm listening to it twice a day. Oooh. Isn't A Fact About Sneakers the most scathing attack on DJ's you've heard? I shocked when the lyrics sunk in... From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 23 09:23:08 2001 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:23:08 +0100 Subject: Help Support BOC Message-ID: Err, goodness me, suddenly B?C are in the lead. How could that have happened? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rus Hall" To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 1:32 PM Subject: Help Support BOC > http://www.watertownriverfest.com/ > > Calling all BOC fans. Please help me correct a grave injustice. The boys will be playing at the Watertown (WI) Riverfest. The website is listed above. Anyway, there is an interactive poll to vote for your favorite act appearing over the weekend. Right now BOC is in second place. What's worse, they are trailing Nelson. Aargh! Help right this wrong! > > > > BOC on tour forever! > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jul 23 10:00:47 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 22:00:47 +0800 Subject: Help Support BOC Message-ID: 39% Nelson is still too close for comfort. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Allen" To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Help Support BOC > Err, goodness me, suddenly B?C are in the lead. > How could that have happened? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rus Hall" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 1:32 PM > Subject: Help Support BOC > > > > http://www.watertownriverfest.com/ > > > > Calling all BOC fans. Please help me correct a grave injustice. The boys > will be playing at the Watertown (WI) Riverfest. The website is listed > above. Anyway, there is an interactive poll to vote for your favorite act > appearing over the weekend. Right now BOC is in second place. What's > worse, they are trailing Nelson. Aargh! Help right this wrong! > > > > > > > > BOC on tour forever! > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > From GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US Mon Jul 23 10:38:29 2001 From: GG3757 at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:38:29 -0400 Subject: BOC: good to hear some disc jockeys have taste :) Message-ID: I was driving home from Syracuse to Albany last night and a radio station played a block of BOC, starting with "I love the night" followed by the usual two. at the end the jockey quipped its my personal theme song. Definitely a song you don't hear often (if ever) on the radio. Did anyone else on the list manage to hear the king biscuit BOC broadcast? was there any mention of the possibility of (finally) making those recordings available on CD ? Lastly, Bouchard Dunaway and Smith are performing a show in CA according to Cellsum world headquarters. Kick out the Jams, Jason From grodog at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Jul 23 16:29:58 2001 From: grodog at EARTHLINK.NET (Allan T. Grohe, Jr.) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:29:58 -0700 Subject: MOORCOCK Message-ID: Steph--- Sorry for the long-delayed reply, but life's been insane for the past four months. Stephen Lindas wrote: > > HI ALLAN, Do you know if there are any live recordings of the DEEP > FIX out there anywhere? CHEERS STEPHE No, I don't. I've heard that the MM Friends and Relations materials have been pressed to CD, but don't really know any details for sure. Your best bet would be to query the Hawkwind email list--- boc-1 at listserv.spc.edu---and the Nomads of the Time Streams list at nomads at sundancer.oche.de. You might also try www.multiverse.org. If you find anything out, please let me know! ;-) Allan. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan T. Grohe Jr. Visit the Dreaming City-- grodog at earthlink.net http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr I am gray. I stand between the candle, and the star. We are gray. We stand between the darkness, and the light. --- "And The Sky Full of Stars," _Babylon 5_ From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Jul 23 18:02:08 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:02:08 -0400 Subject: Help Support BOC Message-ID: 6:00 pm dst-45% to 30% whoo-hoo!! Bill & Cynthia wrote: > > 39% > Nelson is still too close for comfort. > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Allen" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 9:23 PM > Subject: Re: Help Support BOC > > > > Err, goodness me, suddenly B?C are in the lead. > > How could that have happened? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rus Hall" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 1:32 PM > > Subject: Help Support BOC > > > > > > > http://www.watertownriverfest.com/ > > > > > > Calling all BOC fans. Please help me correct a grave injustice. The > boys > > will be playing at the Watertown (WI) Riverfest. The website is listed > > above. Anyway, there is an interactive poll to vote for your favorite act > > appearing over the weekend. Right now BOC is in second place. What's > > worse, they are trailing Nelson. Aargh! Help right this wrong! > > > > > > > > > > > > BOC on tour forever! > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Jul 23 18:49:54 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:49:54 -0500 Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: Hey folks, I've had a bunch of people ask me now to listen to HW, since I'm so obsessive about them ;-) What album do folks normally use to "turn" on new people to HW? (if you had to pick one of the offical releases....) I tend to hand over QS&C, but that's personal taste ;-) Arin (looking to convert a few people.) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jul 23 19:10:39 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 19:10:39 -0400 Subject: HW: on converting new souls In-Reply-To: ; from akomins@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU on Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 05:49:54PM -0500 Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 05:49:54PM -0500, Arin Komins wrote: > What album do folks normally use to "turn" on new people to HW? > (if you had to pick one of the offical releases....) > I tend to hand over QS&C, but that's personal taste ;-) Depends on the person. Pick something at least a little similar to stuff they already like. QS&C is fine for people into new wave and 80s stuff (it's the one HW song the local "new music" station ever plays -- or did play, back before I got seriously tired of "new music" and tuned them out). If they're into 90s electronica, start them on IITBOTFTBD. If they're Motorhead fans, the date range should be obvious... You get the idea. Plus Space Ritual, of course, whatever else you hand them. > Arin > (looking to convert a few people.) Yes, Hawkwind is indeed a proseletyzing religion :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From novadrive at HOME.COM Mon Jul 23 19:29:26 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:29:26 -0700 Subject: on converting new souls In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That always depends on who/what they are into already. My metalhead brother got a very different mix tape that a Dead Head friend, and yet another for the Pink Floyd, uh, er, Heads. If someone was into Kitaro and Tangerine Dream, I wouldn't throw the "Night Of The Hawks" video at them right away, but I did for a friend into punk... KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Arin Komins Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 3:50 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: on converting new souls Hey folks, I've had a bunch of people ask me now to listen to HW, since I'm so obsessive about them ;-) What album do folks normally use to "turn" on new people to HW? (if you had to pick one of the offical releases....) I tend to hand over QS&C, but that's personal taste ;-) Arin (looking to convert a few people.) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jul 23 20:31:16 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:31:16 -0600 Subject: HW: on converting new souls In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey folks, (from Arin) "I've had a bunch of people ask me now to listen to HW, since I'm so obsessive about them ;-) What album do folks normally use to "turn" on new people to HW?"(snip) It won't work. The general masses are too stupid to accept HW the way we do- they will put on the face of how great it is at first, but you'll later see that their money is going to other artists, and they don't love it the way they acted. Tell people that show an interest that it is now a sacred institution, and it reaches special people, then draws them together. Tell them if the music didn't find THEM, then they are unlucky and not chosen. but since we all must strive forward in this area, especially when questioned about our joy- Quark seems to be a real great one. I personally would try to shove acid down their throat (you know, if it were legal), and play Space Ritual. When I went to the San Diego 89 show, a guy (we'll call him a guy anyway) in the parking lot gave my friends liquid LSD, and I passed on it, since I was driving (and it's not legal, of course), and I had plenty more drinking to do, and I was happy on my Jack Daniels and beer "Springs" ....... meanwhile back at the hotel my Space Ritual cassette came in very handy...... I have never seen such mesmerized brain nothingness later, I was told it was a surreal experience of "Like music was playing, yet not like music was playing" I know what they meant- I call it a sea. An Astral Ocean. mike C From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Mon Jul 23 19:32:19 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:32:19 -0700 Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: And for prog fans, start 'em off with Warrior. That's what I am, and that's what hooked me on Hawkwind. They'll hear those opening Mellotron chords and they'll be lost..... scorch From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon Jul 23 20:59:48 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:59:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide Message-ID: Thanks for all the info - just catching up here. I have computer access only at work, so I couldn't tune in to SDNC for the Pressurehed this Sat, but hopefully that will change before the end of the year. The description of the Turner material sounds fantastic, and if it really is better than 'Past or Future' then it should be truly fine - I thought PoF was a high point of Hawkwind-and-related releases of the 90's. As for High Tide - after my recent acquisition of 'Open Season' I was psyched - so-to-speak - into searching out their later stuff, and have been able to collect quite a bit of info and even acquire a few of the discs. The first 2 releases, 'Sea Shanties' and 'High Tide', were reissued by Repertoire and should be available from CDNow.com and other major online retailers. 'Precious Cargo' and 'Interesting Times' are both available on Akarma Records and can be gotten from as was previously mentioned. I'll also repeat what has been said before - SS, HT, and PC are all exceptional and highly recommended - IT is the weakest of these 4 but I think it still has a lot of good material on it and I like it a lot, despite the drum machines, though YMMV. Then, about 1990 or so, a slew of other releases came out on SPM-WorlWideRecords and it is only recently that I became aware of these. 'The Flood' is a collection of recordings from 70-76, and almost the entire album was compiled onto 'Open Season'. I believe the only 2 tracks that were left off were the title track and a version of Ice Age, an excellent song, but one that is present on both 'Precious Cargo' and 'Interesting Times' in 2 fine versions, so I don't know if an acquisition of this title is warranted if you got 'Open Season'. I did track down 'The Reason of Success' - its an all-instrumental collection - the 1st and last tracks are Garage Gods and Turn Yourself Down, the 2 tracks compiled on 'Open Season' that convinced me that the 1990 material was more-than-worth looking for. These 2 tracks make up slightly more than half of 'Reason', but the remaining 3 tracks are almost as good and I highly recommend this disc. This is serious, and seriously good, music. 'A Fierce Nature' - I got a Russian pressing of this on Ebay - it arrived this morning -and I am listening to it for the first time as I type this - PC speakers so I don't have a proper opinion yet. This one is only Tony Hill and Drachen Theaker, and seems to be split between instrumentals that would sound at home on 'Reason' (i.e. they're great) and song-type pieces. None of these tracks appear on 'Open Season'. Finally there is 'Ancient Gates' - apparently a collaboration with an Indian vocalist, Sushi Krishnamurthi. I haven't found this but did come across this description in the Tapestry of Delights on the Delerium webpage - "The first track Resonance is brilliant, but gets worse with every subsequent track and I defy anyone to listen to it all the way through." Resonance is apparently the track that was compiled on 'Open Season', and its a good one, but based on the above quote I'm not sure if I will get the disc, even if I can find it. Thanks for your time, Stephan NP: High Tide - A Fierce Nature From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jul 23 20:54:02 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:54:02 -0400 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:59:48 -0400, Stephan Forstner wrote: >As for High Tide - after my recent acquisition of 'Open Season' I was >psyched - so-to-speak - into searching out their later stuff, and have >been able to collect quite a bit of info and even acquire a few of the >discs... Thanks for the info/opinions, Stephan! >...Finally there is 'Ancient Gates' - apparently a collaboration with >an Indian vocalist, Sushi Krishnamurthi... ... which reminds me: at around the time they recorded 'Sea Shanties' and 'High Tide' (and, for that matter, 'Precious Cargo'), all four members of the band recorded an album (for a different label - Deram, I think?) backing someone named Denny Gerrard. Anyone have a copy? Anyone know *anything* about this release? Never seen either an original or reissue, myself ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jul 23 22:22:56 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Dave Brock) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:22:56 -0600 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide In-Reply-To: <200107240054.UAA01466@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: re High Tide- but if the REAL truth is told, the first 2 are heavy and rocking, in a psychedelic sea-urchin kind of way, and the others are a TERRIBLE bore that will leave you sick and wanting, and pissed off that you didn't pull out your old forgotten "On Parole" LP, or the like.... sorry, I am in a bad mood, don't take this serious..... I have "Mucic From Macbeth" I just now remembered that I had labelled it years ago as "Music to help get nerve to commit suicide" -glad I remembered that- I have the new comp by High Tide on the way, and I hear this one is pretty good- artwork as well- as for "Precious Cargo", it's been years, and I only own the original 80's CD, and I recall my problem was with the quality of the sound, not the music.... I think that is why I favored "Interesting Times"......which I really do think is pretty darn good, despite drum machines or whatnot..... *end of blah* *sorry* m ps-get ACID JAM 2 INSTEAD or LORD OF THE DARK SKIES by "Outskirts Of Infinity", and skip the whole affair From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jul 23 21:28:39 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:58:39 +0930 Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: I would have to say : LEVITATION first Live Chronicles? Alien 4 signed Mikey B then ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:19 AM Subject: HW: on converting new souls > Hey folks, > > I've had a bunch of people ask me now to listen to HW, since I'm > so obsessive about them ;-) > > What album do folks normally use to "turn" on new people to HW? > > (if you had to pick one of the offical releases....) > > I tend to hand over QS&C, but that's personal taste ;-) > > Arin > (looking to convert a few people.) > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From tgn at GATE.NET Mon Jul 23 21:47:28 2001 From: tgn at GATE.NET (Tim Northrup) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:47:28 -0400 Subject: good to hear some disc jockeys have taste :) Message-ID: > Lastly, Bouchard Dunaway and Smith are performing a show in CA according > to Cellsum world headquarters. > > Kick out the Jams, > Jason Not sure if this is the show Cellsum references, but BD&S are scheduled to appear at the Glen Buxton Memorial Weekend, which is being held in Hollywood August 3-5. -- Tim From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jul 23 22:51:12 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:51:12 -0600 Subject: Dear Dave Brock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: THE REAL ONE!!!! sorry for committing the sin of ALL SINS!!! That High Tide mail wasn't supposed to come in from You!!!!!!! I had borrowed your name (cause we all love it) when forwarding a previous BOC-L list post to an old friend, who is not a BOC-L member to catch his eye I told (that I) was having a bad day, except there wasn't much day, now it's a bad night mike c From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Jul 23 23:07:48 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:07:48 -0600 Subject: HW: on converting new souls In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Hey folks" (re chat-room high council Arin): What album do folks normally use to "turn" on new people to HW? If you'd like the LP's to become vicious and turn on them, you'll probably want to dose them up good, and throw Alien 4 at them, nice and loud, or Distant Horizons tunes like "Reptoid Vision", etc.... m c "I eat you from within" , and such.... From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jul 23 22:56:48 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 22:56:48 -0400 Subject: HW: on converting new souls In-Reply-To: <20010723191039.B3584@telepres.com>; from erics@TELEPRES.COM on Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 07:10:39PM -0400 Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 07:10:39PM -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: > ([QS&C is] the one HW song the local "new music" > station ever plays -- or did play, back before I got seriously > tired of "new music" and tuned them out). Woops, I meant to say "`Spirit of the Age' is the one song..." -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Tue Jul 24 00:00:46 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 00:00:46 EDT Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: Hi Arin, For a while there I found the Stasis CD comp on EMI very useful to introduce people to Hawkwind, but I think an even better more recent choice could be the single disc version of Epocheclipse also on EMI which has just one great tune after another. Hope all is well with you Arin, yours Eli Friedman From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jul 24 04:54:31 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 02:54:31 -0600 Subject: HW: on converting new souls In-Reply-To: <200107232332.QAA08712@bob.te-cats.com> Message-ID: "And for prog fans, start 'em off with Warrior. That's what I am, and that's what hooked me on Hawkwind. They'll hear those opening Mellotron chords and they'll be lost.... scorch" and one more before I try to escape into sleep for a while.... "Quark" for the more conventional minded, "Space Ritual" for the brave experimental, BUT as much as I have found that whatever Hawkwind is playing, that is the Hawkwind it is (and NEVER EVER have a need to skip or eject ANYTHING EVER), and at this point in my ever snowballing appreciation of the worlds greatest psychedelic band and personel, I have to say that Warrior is the ultimate Hawk-gasm.(for lack of a less seedy term) Absolutely amazing. IMHO (of course) This should appeal to anyone with an ear for something special and unique- no matter their tatse, it should at least command a HEALTHY dose of respect. As for the comps, I didn't even consider those- Ambient Anarchists seemed to have a nice mix, I thought, as well as aforementioned ones to which I agree, thanks for your time (if you put your eyes through this course) I cloak. m From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jul 24 06:05:52 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 05:05:52 -0500 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide Message-ID: Ancient gates was reissued a few years ago. I neglected to pick it up for $11. BIG DUH!!!! Now Its outta print. If you find it tell me where so I can get it too. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Doug Pearson [mailto:jasret at MINDSPRING.COM] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 7:54 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:59:48 -0400, Stephan Forstner wrote: >As for High Tide - after my recent acquisition of 'Open Season' I was >psyched - so-to-speak - into searching out their later stuff, and have >been able to collect quite a bit of info and even acquire a few of the >discs... Thanks for the info/opinions, Stephan! >...Finally there is 'Ancient Gates' - apparently a collaboration with >an Indian vocalist, Sushi Krishnamurthi... ... which reminds me: at around the time they recorded 'Sea Shanties' and 'High Tide' (and, for that matter, 'Precious Cargo'), all four members of the band recorded an album (for a different label - Deram, I think?) backing someone named Denny Gerrard. Anyone have a copy? Anyone know *anything* about this release? Never seen either an original or reissue, myself ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jul 24 07:58:23 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 05:58:23 -0600 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D800A32781E@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: "Ancient gates was reissued a few years ago. I neglected to pick it up for>$11. BIG DUH!!!! Now Its outta print. If you find it tell me where so I can get it too. CHEERS STEPHE" Dear Stephe apologies that you get a mail from yourself, but I had to sneak in (hehe) I couldn't sleep yet as usual, and I just had a dig I have these oddball CD's by High Tide, and may consider a swap for something down the road, after I put them through the Heineken test, just one more time 1) Ancient gates 2) A Fierce nature 3) Third Ear Band (minus House) "Magic Music" If you or anyone wants the LP by ATOMGOD "History Re-Written" I believe I am about to get a few new copies (and YES I'll send them after I send everything else out which is in these next days) If you want a CD of this I can get it- or you can- shoot me a mail How the hell are ya??? Mike Coleman- NOT Stephen Lindas hahahahahaha! From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jul 24 07:12:28 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 06:12:28 -0500 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide Message-ID: GIVE ME THAT ATOMGODS. I saw it first. HA!HA!HA! THE real STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Lindas [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:58 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide "Ancient gates was reissued a few years ago. I neglected to pick it up for>$11. BIG DUH!!!! Now Its outta print. If you find it tell me where so I can get it too. CHEERS STEPHE" Dear Stephe apologies that you get a mail from yourself, but I had to sneak in (hehe) I couldn't sleep yet as usual, and I just had a dig I have these oddball CD's by High Tide, and may consider a swap for something down the road, after I put them through the Heineken test, just one more time 1) Ancient gates 2) A Fierce nature 3) Third Ear Band (minus House) "Magic Music" If you or anyone wants the LP by ATOMGOD "History Re-Written" I believe I am about to get a few new copies (and YES I'll send them after I send everything else out which is in these next days) If you want a CD of this I can get it- or you can- shoot me a mail How the hell are ya??? Mike Coleman- NOT Stephen Lindas hahahahahaha! From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jul 24 07:39:48 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 07:39:48 EDT Subject: good to hear some disc jockeys have taste :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 23 Jul 2001, at 21:47, Tim Northrup wrote: > > Lastly, Bouchard Dunaway and Smith are performing a show in CA > > according to Cellsum world headquarters. > > > > Kick out the Jams, > > Jason > > Not sure if this is the show Cellsum references, but BD&S are > scheduled to appear at the Glen Buxton Memorial Weekend, which is > being held in Hollywood August 3-5. > Damn! If this could only become a regular working band. I presume Joe's playing gtr and keys? Wow! One of the great rhythm sections of all time--right up there with the 'killer Bs'... theo From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jul 24 11:25:50 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:25:50 -0500 Subject: MICHAEL MOORCOCKS DEEP FIX Message-ID: I have been wondering. Has anyone on this list seen or happen to have any live recordings of DEEP FIX? Other than concerts and rehearsals. Email me private if you need to. THANK YOU STEPHE From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Tue Jul 24 13:23:41 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:23:41 +0100 Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: Good question Arin, and some good answers. I concur with the "if they're into prog, give 'em Warrior" arguments. But assuming you don't know that much about the tastes of the applicant neophyte, or you just want a general taster to offer to someone... ...what about Palace Spings? Moonglum ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: 23 July 2001 23:49 Subject: HW: on converting new souls > What album do folks normally use to "turn" on new people to HW? From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Tue Jul 24 16:11:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:11:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Simon House Message-ID: Just a quick note to say how much I'm enjoying Simon House's "Spiral Galaxy Revisited" - thanks, CDS, who now have it back in stock (plug, plug). Highly recommended for fans of SH in HW guise. ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jul 24 18:29:50 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:29:50 +0100 Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: It's an interesting one, this, as we tend largely to preach to the converted but shortly intend to do exactly what you are doing but oin a much wider scale so I've had to come up with a sort of essential five albums for the person who hasn't heard the band before. So, at the moment (and I stress 'at the moment') my list is as follows (in no particular order): 1)Ambient Anarchists for the price conscious person who wants a good snapshot of material post-EMI that focuses on songs and instrumental work but nothing too over-the-top, a neat place to start 2)(Cheating slightly)Sonic Boom killers (for chronology and shorter tracks) OR Psychedelic Warlords (for definitive EMI years compilation) OR Masters Of The Universe (Fame version for the EMI years price conscious person) as representing EMI years 3)Alien the modern band 4)Electric Teepee the '80's 5)Space Ritual in with both feet and bulging wallet (altrhough not for too much longer where price is concerned - roll on August 20th!!!!) for the definitive Hawkwind live experience The choice is governed by availability.........and, of course, could change tomorrow but I think that's a fair choice at a fair price. While I'm here, Cherry Red, after a cock-up caused by them, finally delivered the 'Night Of' DVD to us this week, so orders are on the way to eveyone, but there are five left at offer price (UK ones) if anyone wants to take advantage (e.mail me here at andygee at dial.pipex.com ). For USA people the NTSC one is expected any day. That's all folks, Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:49 PM Subject: HW: on converting new souls > Hey folks, > > I've had a bunch of people ask me now to listen to HW, since I'm > so obsessive about them ;-) > > What album do folks normally use to "turn" on new people to HW? > > (if you had to pick one of the offical releases....) > > I tend to hand over QS&C, but that's personal taste ;-) > > Arin > (looking to convert a few people.) > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jul 24 18:36:22 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:36:22 +0100 Subject: OFF: High Tide Message-ID: errrr......yes, Mike -change yer e.mail signature there, I think.....as to High Tide, the first two are essential and having heard the rest and this new 'Open Season' thing I think that this comp has been put together superbly by BW and indeed, with this in your possession, you have the definitive comp of post-first 2 albums High Tide and need seek no more - tell me if I'm wrong when it arrives!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Brock" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:22 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide > re High Tide- > > but if the REAL truth is told, the first 2 are heavy and rocking, in a > psychedelic sea-urchin kind of way, and the others are a TERRIBLE bore that > will leave you sick and wanting, and pissed off that you didn't pull out > your old forgotten "On Parole" LP, or the like.... > > > I have the new comp by High Tide on the way, and I hear this one is pretty > good- > > artwork as well- > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jul 24 18:38:30 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:38:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: High Tide Message-ID: never heard of this - only thing I own of interest I suppose is a tape of the BBC Radio One In Concert broadcast. - I wonder if that's in the BBC archives - would be great if that could be released officially. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:54 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide > On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:59:48 -0400, Stephan Forstner > wrote: > ... which reminds me: at around the time they recorded 'Sea Shanties' > and 'High Tide' (and, for that matter, 'Precious Cargo'), all four members > of the band recorded an album (for a different label - Deram, I think?) > backing someone named Denny Gerrard. Anyone have a copy? Anyone know > *anything* about this release? Never seen either an original or reissue, > myself ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jul 24 19:20:46 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:20:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Simon House Message-ID: you're after my job, aren't you - actually, we sold out of vinyl AND CD yet again today so more back soon for those interested and not yet hearing it - oh, and by the way, look out for a release on CD of his very first album, never before available, coming soon from us (around Sept/Oct) Thanks for the plug Steve - always helps. Andy G (CD Services) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Litchfield" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:11 PM Subject: HW: Simon House > Just a quick note to say how much I'm enjoying Simon House's "Spiral > Galaxy Revisited" - thanks, CDS, who now have it back in stock (plug, > plug). > > Highly recommended for fans of SH in HW guise. > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Tue Jul 24 19:16:18 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:16:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide Message-ID: to stephe: ancient gates available through along with some other high tide cds. interesting store,carry all sorts of import cds,got my copy of `kings of speed,lords of light' through them. the ancient gates is 21.99 + 5.00 shipping(for up to 6(?)(i think) cds. tim Stephen Lindas wrote: > > "Ancient gates was reissued a few years ago. I neglected to pick it up > for>$11. BIG DUH!!!! Now Its outta print. If you find it tell me where so I > can > get it too. CHEERS STEPHE" > > Dear Stephe > > apologies that you get a mail from yourself, but I had to sneak in (hehe) > I couldn't sleep yet as usual, and I just had a dig > > I have these oddball CD's by High Tide, and may consider a swap for something > down the road, after I put them through the Heineken test, just one more time > > 1) Ancient gates > > 2) A Fierce nature > > 3) Third Ear Band (minus House) "Magic Music" > > If you or anyone wants the LP by ATOMGOD "History Re-Written" I believe I > am about to get a few new copies (and YES I'll send them after I send > everything else out which is in these next days) > > If you want a CD of this I can get it- or you can- shoot me a mail > > How the hell are ya??? > > Mike Coleman- NOT Stephen Lindas hahahahahaha! From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Jul 25 05:29:18 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 05:29:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide Message-ID: This is still listed as a German import at; http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=HIGH_TIDE&s=1151 Z Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 05:05:52 -0500 From: Stephen Lindas Subject: Re: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide Ancient gates was reissued a few years ago. I neglected to pick it up for $11. BIG DUH!!!! Now Its outta print. If you find it tell me where so I can get it too. CHEERS STEPHE From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Jul 25 05:33:22 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 05:33:22 -0400 Subject: MICHAEL MOORCOCKS DEEP FIX Message-ID: Um, what kind of live recordings are there apart from concerts and rehearsals? Stuart Not being rude just curious Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:25:50 -0500 From: Stephen Lindas Subject: MICHAEL MOORCOCKS DEEP FIX I have been wondering. Has anyone on this list seen or happen to have any live recordings of DEEP FIX? Other than concerts and rehearsals. Email me private if you need to. THANK YOU STEPHE From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jul 25 05:38:58 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 05:38:58 -0400 Subject: OFF: Alchemysts Message-ID: the Alchemysts utterly ROCKED tonight. I would stronly recommend them if/when they come from your town on this US tour ... schedule at (I think?): http://www.rubricrecords.com -Doug jasret at mindspring.com (AND you won't have to listen to the annoying guy with the whiny voice "ironically" yelling, "play the Wesley Willis version of Freebird") From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Jul 25 05:52:29 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 04:52:29 -0500 Subject: MICHAEL MOORCOCKS DEEP FIX Message-ID: Well, There was a recording that MIKE himself gave out at a SCI-FI convention in Georgia. Titled "CONCERTS AND REHEARSALS" I'm looking for anything other than that one. Sorry for not being precise. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Z E Itgeist [mailto:stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:33 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: MICHAEL MOORCOCKS DEEP FIX Um, what kind of live recordings are there apart from concerts and rehearsals? Stuart Not being rude just curious Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:25:50 -0500 From: Stephen Lindas Subject: MICHAEL MOORCOCKS DEEP FIX I have been wondering. Has anyone on this list seen or happen to have any live recordings of DEEP FIX? Other than concerts and rehearsals. Email me private if you need to. THANK YOU STEPHE From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 25 07:35:39 2001 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:35:39 +0000 Subject: Conversion to the CHURCH Message-ID: I think 'Church of Hawkwind' is the place to start from.It has a great variety of 'Dave Brock'(it being basically a solo effort)tunes and effects.Anyone I've played this to over the years has always wanted to know more!Also '25 years on'(start with 'Flying Doctor'),GRRR8888T!! I was converted by 'Levitation'.I was given a cassette with the 'B'side' on 1st,(Prelude,Who's gonna win the war)and Tim Blakes synth just carried me away!Oh!What memories!Excuse me!!!I must go now and play it(B-side 1st of course!Why did they start with Levitation anyway?Never could understand that!)ALAN _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Jul 25 07:55:59 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:55:59 +0800 Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: Moonglum wrote: > ...what about Palace Spings? > And the Business Trip Live? If they're into metal, give them a taste of Do Not Panic. Bill From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Jul 25 09:57:27 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 06:57:27 -0700 Subject: HW: Simon House In-Reply-To: <01ad01c11497$455fad80$658bbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: That's not "Alan-Davey-soon," is it? Sorry. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 4:21 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Simon House ...and by the way, look out for a release on CD of his very first album, never before available, coming soon from us (around Sept/Oct) Thanks for the plug Steve - always helps. Andy G (CD Services) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Litchfield" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:11 PM Subject: HW: Simon House > Just a quick note to say how much I'm enjoying Simon House's "Spiral > Galaxy Revisited" - thanks, CDS, who now have it back in stock (plug, > plug). > > Highly recommended for fans of SH in HW guise. > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From coral at APORT.RU Wed Jul 25 09:48:37 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:48:37 +0400 Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: > And the Business Trip Live? If they're into metal, give them a taste of Do > Not Panic. Electric Tepee was always the best choice I should say. All the times I started to introduce someone to HW it was Electric Tepee which got them. Also Live Chronicles and late 80's for metal fans. Why ET - it has modern sharp clear sound, it's heavy, it is unbeaten masterpiece of music. From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Jul 25 13:39:13 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:39:13 -0500 Subject: OFF: Novadriver! Message-ID: Novadriver! What a band! I was just blown away listening to them for the first time. Monster Magnet aficionados will dig 'em. Was catching up on my AI radio listening: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/playlist.html#show30 Highly recommended. Karen From jayne at WALLISFAMILY.KAROO.CO.UK Wed Jul 25 13:38:28 2001 From: jayne at WALLISFAMILY.KAROO.CO.UK (JayneWallis) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:38:28 +0100 Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: Hi everyone - new boy. To turn on new victims er...new souls. DOREMI - a gentle introduction to the wonders of Space Ritual and Lemmy's bass. ROADHAWKS - compilation of the best early-mid 70s line-up. QUARK - absolutely essential and also a great introduction to the genius of Bob Calvert. MASQUES - quintessential 80s ' wind. BUSINESS OF THE FUTURE - best 90s album. All of the above are, of course, personal opinions only. I find them to be the best spearhead on the front-line. Go forth and convert. All the best to fans everywhere, Stephen Barron. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jul 25 12:47:45 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:47:45 -0400 Subject: OFF: Novadriver! Message-ID: KK said... >Novadriver! What a band! > >I was just blown away listening to them for the first time. Monster >Magnet aficionados will dig 'em. Previously known as Walk on Water (different singer), who were IMHO a more unique brand of high-octane blue-collar Detroit psychedelia. The 'Solvent-based melodies' CD-EP is brilliant. Novadriver is now just another stoner rock band, albeit a pretty good one. Didn't mean to rain on your parade or anything, K, as I think most folks here would like either entity. And they're cool guys to hang with if you're ever in the So. Michigan area. (Hint: The better stores are in the Royal Oak area.) Grakkl (FAA) From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Jul 25 14:40:27 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:40:27 -0500 Subject: OFF: Novadriver! Message-ID: Great input Keith - They *are* a pretty good stoner band. :) You didn't rain on my parade. I wouldn't even get to hear half this stuff without Aural Innovations. "Walk on Water" is excellent too. Intriguing that they're related bands. Liked WoW a lot too but really love the heaviness of Novadriver. Rock on! Karen K Henderson wrote: > > KK said... > > >Novadriver! What a band! > > > >I was just blown away listening to them for the first time. Monster > >Magnet aficionados will dig 'em. > > Previously known as Walk on Water (different singer), who were IMHO a more > unique brand of high-octane blue-collar Detroit psychedelia. The > 'Solvent-based melodies' CD-EP is brilliant. Novadriver is now just another > stoner rock band, albeit a pretty good one. Didn't mean to rain on your > parade or anything, K, as I think most folks here would like either entity. > And they're cool guys to hang with if you're ever in the So. Michigan area. > (Hint: The better stores are in the Royal Oak area.) > > Grakkl (FAA) From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Jul 25 20:00:30 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:00:30 BST Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: Arin wrote: >What album do folks normally use to "turn" on new people to HW?< Hi Arin, I would just play 'em one track - "Golden Void" from Warrior. If they like it they will be unable to stop themselves from searching out other stuff. I've lent albums in the past and the most common reaction I got was on the lines of - 'Yeah some of the songs sound great but I don't like that wierd bloke talking on it' - If people have been converted to HW by me, it's when they've heard stuff I've been playing and its 'clicked' into place for them - we can all remember when that happend for us I bet! Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Jul 25 17:36:47 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:36:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Simon House Message-ID: nice one - as I am now famous for saying, there seems to be a batlle between CD Service's label owner and Bedouin's label owneer as to which one can release their Alan Davey CD later than the other - altho' what started as a joke comment is on the verge of becoming an embarassment, so point taken and accepted on CDS behalf, but nothing I can do about it. However, the answer to the rhetorical question, and you might not get this but it means the same thing, is 'no, we're actually talking "Black Widow-soon". Andy Garibaldi (full of humour as ever - not bad considering he's upset Daevid Allen, Hugh Hopper, Brian Hopper and Voiceprint all in the same day!!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "KevinSommers" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:57 PM Subject: Re: HW: Simon House > That's not "Alan-Davey-soon," is it? > > Sorry. > > > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 4:21 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Simon House > > ...and by the way, look out for a release on CD of his very first album, > never before available, coming soon from us (around Sept/Oct) > Thanks for the plug Steve - always helps. > Andy G (CD Services) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Litchfield" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:11 PM > Subject: HW: Simon House > > > > Just a quick note to say how much I'm enjoying Simon House's "Spiral > > Galaxy Revisited" - thanks, CDS, who now have it back in stock (plug, > > plug). > > > > Highly recommended for fans of SH in HW guise. > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > Steve Litchfield > > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Jul 25 17:47:46 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:47:46 +0100 Subject: OFF: Novadriver! Message-ID: tip: try the Five Horse Johnson album on Man's Ruin for stoner-blues gone wild - tremendous stuff. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kusic" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Novadriver! > Great input Keith - > > They *are* a pretty good stoner band. :) You didn't rain on my parade. > I wouldn't even get to hear half this stuff without Aural Innovations. > > "Walk on Water" is excellent too. Intriguing that they're related > bands. Liked WoW a lot too but really love the heaviness of Novadriver. > > Rock on! > > Karen > > K Henderson wrote: > > > > KK said... > > > > >Novadriver! What a band! > > > > > >I was just blown away listening to them for the first time. Monster > > >Magnet aficionados will dig 'em. > > > > Previously known as Walk on Water (different singer), who were IMHO a more > > unique brand of high-octane blue-collar Detroit psychedelia. The > > 'Solvent-based melodies' CD-EP is brilliant. Novadriver is now just another > > stoner rock band, albeit a pretty good one. Didn't mean to rain on your > > parade or anything, K, as I think most folks here would like either entity. > > And they're cool guys to hang with if you're ever in the So. Michigan area. > > (Hint: The better stores are in the Royal Oak area.) > > > > Grakkl (FAA) From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Wed Jul 25 17:33:59 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:33:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: Novadriver!-stoner Message-ID: I just saw Bottom from NY here in Minneapolis, they are also on Mans Ruin. I thought they were incredible, kind of babes in toyland meets sabbath crossed with space ritual. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:47 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Novadriver! > tip: try the Five Horse Johnson album on Man's Ruin for stoner-blues gone > wild - tremendous stuff. > Andy Garibaldi From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Jul 25 22:54:42 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:54:42 -0700 Subject: HW: on converting new souls In-Reply-To: <001001c11530$ba43bee0$56b332d4@b5p0y0> Message-ID: How could have I forgotten this one? The 'Live Legends' video! I've played it for a few dozen first-timers through the years, and ALWAYS got enthusiastic responses, usually something like "Why haven't I heard of this band before?!?" And usually just as the closing strains of "Void Of Golden Light" fade away... KevinSommers From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Jul 26 01:27:18 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:27:18 -0700 Subject: OFF: Images Message-ID: There's a new (?) image search engine on the web. I typed (of course) 'Hawkwind' and got this message: "Results 1 - 20 of about 901. Search took 0.40 seconds." http://images.google.com/ KevinSommers From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 26 01:50:12 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 05:50:12 +0000 Subject: HW: Simon House Message-ID: do you meen the label or parashooting spiders and the o no >From: ANDREW GARIBALDI >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Simon House >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:36:47 +0100 > >nice one - as I am now famous for saying, there seems to be a batlle >between >CD Service's label owner and Bedouin's label owneer as to which one can >release their Alan Davey CD later than the other - altho' what started as a >joke comment is on the verge of becoming an embarassment, so point taken >and >accepted on CDS behalf, but nothing I can do about it. >However, the answer to the rhetorical question, and you might not get this >but it means the same thing, is 'no, we're actually talking "Black >Widow-soon". >Andy Garibaldi (full of humour as ever - not bad considering he's upset >Daevid Allen, Hugh Hopper, Brian Hopper and Voiceprint all in the same >day!!!) >----- Original Message ----- >From: "KevinSommers" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:57 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Simon House > > > > That's not "Alan-Davey-soon," is it? > > > > Sorry. > > > > > > KevinSommers > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 4:21 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: HW: Simon House > > > > ...and by the way, look out for a release on CD of his very first album, > > never before available, coming soon from us (around Sept/Oct) > > Thanks for the plug Steve - always helps. > > Andy G (CD Services) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve Litchfield" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:11 PM > > Subject: HW: Simon House > > > > > > > Just a quick note to say how much I'm enjoying Simon House's "Spiral > > > Galaxy Revisited" - thanks, CDS, who now have it back in stock (plug, > > > plug). > > > > > > Highly recommended for fans of SH in HW guise. > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > Steve Litchfield > > > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 26 03:18:18 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 07:18:18 +0000 Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: in england pigs not only fly they have eyes in the sky but dont like people to get hoy ,a pig is a swine those who run the crime then give others time ,yet for those of time ,they make it a crime ,fuckers a they >From: Eric Siegerman >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: on converting new souls >Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 22:56:48 -0400 > >On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 07:10:39PM -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: > > ([QS&C is] the one HW song the local "new music" > > station ever plays -- or did play, back before I got seriously > > tired of "new music" and tuned them out). > >Woops, I meant to say "`Spirit of the Age' is the one song..." > >-- > >| | /\ >|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com >| | / >With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not >necessarily a good idea. > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 26 03:31:53 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 07:31:53 +0000 Subject: on converting new souls Message-ID: >From: KevinSommers >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: on converting new souls >Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:29:26 -0700 > >That always depends on who/what they are into already. My metalhead >brother >got a very different mix tape that a Dead Head friend, and yet another for >the Pink Floyd, uh, er, Heads. >If someone was into Kitaro and Tangerine Dream, I wouldn't throw the "Night >Of The Hawks" video at them right away, but I did for a friend into punk... > >KevinSommers > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of Arin Komins >Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 3:50 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: on converting new souls > > >Hey folks, > >I've had a bunch of people ask me now to listen to HW, since I'm >so obsessive about them ;-) > >What album do folks normally use to "turn" on new people to HW? >space ritual or in search of space >(if you had to pick one of the offical releases....) >masters of the universeI tend to hand over QS&C, but that's personal taste ;-) >brainstorm they have found the centre of the gallaxy ,universe next >Arin >(looking to convert a few people.) >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu >Manager of Web Systems Architecture >University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 >1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 >------------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Jul 26 10:02:08 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 08:02:08 -0600 Subject: on converting new souls In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A Duet of AK, and KK said:(SNIP) "What album do folks normally use to "turn" on new people to HW?" "space ritual or in search of space" "(if you had to pick one of the offical releases....)" "masters of the universe Message-ID: played the 'improviser' yesterday... while not calling Hawkwind to mind per se, as nothing seems to fit that imperial glory in my H.O., it is a killer- as has been said... you people know too much.... what it did, sort of call to mind for me, was the most excellent early Mandragora CD "Head First" (sort of) m great CD's they are- From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Thu Jul 26 11:46:22 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 11:46:22 -0400 Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: What about the souls coming in from a dance tip. Sorted eh! We got the remix singles like Spirit of the Age. I managed to knock that one down on a dance compilation tape a few years back. It got people interested and they wanted more so then I got them on to the orginal stuff via the QS&C album. Seems like if people are interested they are pretty receptive to whatever you feed them. Silver Machine still unlocks a few memories but over here the first reaction tends to be 'Oh thats the car advert innit?!' Personal Fave track sequence would be Spirit of The Age thru Damnation Alley followed by Assuault & Battery thru Golden Void. I defy anyone to fail with either of those. If you fail its because the listner is not worthy! Mark From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Jul 26 11:56:25 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 16:56:25 +0100 Subject: HW: on converting new souls In-Reply-To: <200107261546.LAA09895@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > > What about the souls coming in from a dance tip. > It Is The Business Of The Future To Be Dangerous. Sorted. A few years ago I went out with a *gorgeous* young lady who would only listen to hardcore techno. ("Big box, little box, big box, little box..."). The only thing she would agree to have on in the bedroom (if you see what I mean) was IITBOTFTBD. Champion. :-) Cheers, Rich. ObToon: Vatican Broadside - HMHB, from the "Editor's Recommendation" CD ("Who the f***ing hell are Slipknot?") :-) From micci at SCI.FI Thu Jul 26 12:00:28 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:00:28 +0300 Subject: OFF: Pressurehed, Nik Turner, High Tide Message-ID: Hi! >>...Finally there is 'Ancient Gates' - apparently a collaboration with >>an Indian vocalist, Sushi Krishnamurthi... >... which reminds me: at around the time they recorded 'Sea Shanties' >and 'High Tide' (and, for that matter, 'Precious Cargo'), all four members >of the band recorded an album (for a different label - Deram, I think?) >backing someone named Denny Gerrard. Anyone have a copy? Anyone know >*anything* about this release? Never seen either an original or reissue, >myself ... >-Doug I have original vinyl Denny Gerrard- Sinister Morning (Deram Nove DN10). It?s been long time when I last time play this. HT feeling, if I remember correct. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.sci.fi/~micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Jul 26 18:54:30 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:54:30 +0100 Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: speaking of videos, today I learnt we could have seen the last of Hawkwind on video, certainly as far as Visionary are concerned. Seems that all the Hawkwind videos except 'Chaos' are now out of print and it is extremely unlikely that any will now be remanufactured as videos, but that most, although probably not all, will be done as DVD's as time goes by. So, apart form Voiceprint's 'Festivals' and Griffin's 'Live Legends', and 'Chaos' stocks that are left, if you want a Hawk video, you'd better start ferreting about as you've left it a little late. Andy Garibaldi (public service broadcast) P.S. For once, CD Services can't help - we have no more vids. ----- Original Message ----- From: "KevinSommers" To: Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:54 AM Subject: Re: HW: on converting new souls > How could have I forgotten this one? The 'Live Legends' video! > I've played it for a few dozen first-timers through the years, and ALWAYS > got enthusiastic responses, usually something like "Why haven't I heard of > this band before?!?" And usually just as the closing strains of "Void Of > Golden Light" fade away... > > KevinSommers From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 27 02:39:18 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 06:39:18 +0000 Subject: on converting new souls Message-ID: >From: mike c >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: on converting new souls >Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 08:02:08 -0600 > >A Duet of AK, and KK said:(SNIP) >"What album do folks normally use to "turn" on new people to HW?" >"space ritual or in search of space" >"(if you had to pick one of the offical releases....)" >"masters of the universethers masters of the universe on EMI aswell,it has tracks like orgone >accumilater which is not on the success label ,but on the success label >thers ones like shot down in the knight,quark strangeness and charm. its a >bit like the 1999 PARTY one master of the universe has differant words but >then they do do that quite often.reminds me of after kilminster left when >he did MOTERHEAD he would say just in case,i think hawkwind doing that one >track that starts, your so fucked up every where you go confused >him.ps,years later dave brock asked if i minded that particular track ,i >couldant understand why i believe it to be a perfect resamy >what about the Marble Arch version??? same result?? >m _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 27 03:19:15 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 07:19:15 +0000 Subject: HW - Newcastle Message-ID: >From: M Holmes >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW - Newcastle >Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 15:20:38 +0100 > >Nick Medford writes: > > > On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:35:19 +0100, M Holmes >wrote: > > > > >SGT STEDANKO writes: > > > > > >> does that mean there will be hot haggis served during the trip? > > > > > >They're out of season until the 12th. It's the breeding season you see. > > > > > >> heh > > >> has there ever been a vegetarian version of a hagis? hmmmmm > > > > > >It's easy enough to get vegetarian haggis around here. Obviously that's > > >all year because they don't need to shoot any haggii. > > > > > >FoFP > > > > Mike what's your favourite part of the haggis? Are you a leg man, a >breast > > man, or what? > >A leg man really. I like the downhill legs because they're longer. > >FoFP its not so much the haggis its the special guns they use that i would like to get my hands on .a mangy kur,ps.i do hear inverness is a good place for them guns as for the haggis i bet inverness has a meaning for them _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 27 03:31:58 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 07:31:58 +0000 Subject: stonehenge 84 Message-ID: >From: M Holmes >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: stonehenge 84 >Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 15:23:20 +0100 > >Nick Medford writes: > > > On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:16:19 -0500, Stephen Lindas > > > wrote: > > > > >Does anyone know if ROY HARPER introduced HAWKWIND at STONEHENGE 84? >THANKS > > >STEPHE > > > > I asked this here recently, response came there none, but I'm pretty >sure > > that's him introducing them before "Watching the Grass Grow" on Do Not > > Panic. > > > > Presumably some people here were there, although memories of such events > > can be a little hazy... > >Yeah, Roy Harper was on just before Hawkwind. > >FoFP glad someone remembers i couldant ,dont know if it was the sun rises or sunsets maybe the dots ! but that giant bee chasing those racing cars under the stage was brilliant sounds ,makes me wonder where the band came from especialy when those little twinkly dots where replaced by rain or was that 83 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Jul 27 09:25:21 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:25:21 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 7/21 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: . Thanks, Chuck NOTE: I also recommend you stay tuned for Mizzen's program "Audio Alchemy", which airs every Saturday evening after mine, from 8-11pm PST...if you dare...aaaaahha, ha, ha, ha........ 7/21 CaNNeu!-Wave set: (thanks to Keith Henderson) 1.Neu!-- "Hallo Gallo" (ST'd; Astralwerks Records--buy it, though the insert smells terrible...) 2.American Analog Set-- ""White House" (From Our Living-room to Yours) 3.Tortoise-- "Swung from the Gutters" (TNT) 4.Lilys-- "You Win" (Zero Population Growth; Darla Records) 5.Karamasov-- "Fengan Nemo" (On Arrival) 6.Can-- "Moonshake" (Future Days; Spoon/Mute Records) 7.F/i-- "Full Meddle Eddie" (Helioscopium; Ceres Records) 8.Avey Tare and Panda Bare-- "Chocolate Girl" (Spirit They're Gone Spirit They've Vanished; Animal Records...release another one soon please...) 9.Mr. Quimby's Beard-- "Mystery Pt. 1" (Definitive Unsolved Mysteries; Stone Premonitions Records...thanks to Jerry and Hardy for replacement of stolen copy..."sit back, smoke a joint and return MQB to your local police dep't") 10.Chrome-- "Future Ghosts" (3rd From the Sun/Chrome Box; Cleopatra Records) 11.Residents-- "Infant Tango" (Meet the Residents; Ralph Records) 12.Pink Floyd-- "Heartbeat, Pigmeat" (Zabriskie Point Soundtrack) 13.Molloy-- "Not Even 30" (Naif; Stick it to the Man Records) 14.Vibrasonic-- "Kingsly J" (ST'd; Yep! Records) 15.Hawklords-- "Automaton/25 Years On" (25 Years On; Charisma/Virgin Records) 16.Nik Turner-- "Sea King" (Transglobal Friends/Relations; Transparency Records) 17.Escapade-- "Warningless" (Flourescent Tunnelvsion comp; Submergence Records) 18.Ozric Tentacles-- "Music to Gargle At" (Tantric Obstacles; Dovetail Records...though just reissued on a 2-fer by another label...) 19.Mushroom-- "Martina - Queen of Hamburg"; Inbetweens Records) 20.Quarkspace-- "True Millenium" (Spacefolds 7; Eternity's Jest Records...SF6 still floating in ether of thieves, turning on hidden heads/lips in Riverside hills...) 21.Sub Oslo-- "Mi Familia" (Dubs in the Key of Life; Two-Ohm Hop Records) 22.Space Explosion-- "Taub" (ST'd; Cleopatra Records) 23.Amon Duul 2-- "Dem Guten Schonen Wahren" (Phallus Dei; Sunset/Liberty Records...reissued on ?? Records...look it up, just use the album title for search words...highly recommended...) 24.Frank Zappa/Mothers of Invention-- "Inca Roads/Easy Meat" (Tengo la Minchia Tanta; Rhino Records...otherwise known as "Beat the Boots" boxset) 25.Sonic Assassins-- "Over the Top" (Sonic Asassins EP, Mighty HW Classics, Hawklords Live; Flicknife/Griffin Records) thanks, Chuck From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jul 27 11:02:14 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Watchfield) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:02:14 -0600 Subject: LIVE AND BUZZING In-Reply-To: <96.17a02292.2892c5c1@aol.com> Message-ID: here is some eye-candy??? I always wondered if the bootleggers ran out of proper sleeves, and just made some others- I just saw this today, for my first time- it has the regular Watchfield/Stonehenge boot LP inside! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OPA-LOKA m c ps-If anybody knows the real story behind this, The Bottom Line (LP) with the nuclear reacters on it, or others, do tell!!!! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 27 10:21:13 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:21:13 +0100 Subject: HW - Newcastle In-Reply-To: keith kirk's message of Fri, 27 Jul 2001 07:19:15 +0000 Message-ID: keith kirk writes: > > > Mike what's your favourite part of the haggis? Are you a leg man, > > > a breast man, or what? > >A leg man really. I like the downhill legs because they're longer. > its not so much the haggis its the special guns they use that i would > like to get my hands on .a mangy kur,ps.i do hear inverness is a good > place for them guns The guns that fire around hills? Yes, you can get the ones that fire widdershins in Inverness. If you want to fire the other way, you'd have to get one specially made. > as for the haggis i bet inverness has a meaning > for them Yes, there's a stone circle in the woods outside Inverness where old haggii go to die. FoFP From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Jul 27 11:31:37 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:31:37 -0500 Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com Message-ID: Do you feel that a great personal appearance (style) and a huge personal interest in heavy-duty motors (engines) seem like a contradiction? http://www.rubberburner.com/ From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Jul 27 12:30:29 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:30:29 +0100 Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com Message-ID: so who are these dudes? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kusic" To: Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 4:31 PM Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com > Do you feel that a great personal appearance (style) and a huge personal > interest in heavy-duty motors (engines) seem like a contradiction? > > http://www.rubberburner.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 27 12:28:48 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:28:48 +0100 Subject: Thrilling Hawkwind confusion Message-ID: Does anyone know if there's a difference between: Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures GRF840CD and Thrilling Hawkwind Stories GCD8402 and if so, what the difference is? FoFP From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 27 12:34:42 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:34:42 +0000 Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 27 12:35:41 2001 From: buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM (Rus Hall) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:35:41 -0400 Subject: BOC: Radio Play Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Jul 27 12:46:46 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:46:46 +0100 Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com Message-ID: lol - or burning them at any rate. ----- Original Message ----- From: Fraser Gray To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 5:34 PM Subject: Re: OFF: RubberBurner.com well by the look of the dood in the piccie, they are in serious danger of climbing up their own arses >From: Ben Fagin >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: OFF: RubberBurner.com >Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:30:29 +0100 > >so who are these dudes? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Karen Kusic" >To: >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 4:31 PM >Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com > > > > Do you feel that a great personal appearance (style) and a huge personal > > interest in heavy-duty motors (engines) seem like a contradiction? > > > > http://www.rubberburner.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From laura.waesche at CEXP.COM Fri Jul 27 12:40:57 2001 From: laura.waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:40:57 -0500 Subject: BOC: Radio Play Message-ID: I thought the guy from the Fixx was a hat designer now? >>> Rus Hall 07/27/01 11:35AM >>> From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Jul 27 12:55:57 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:55:57 -0400 Subject: BOC: Radio Play In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rus wrote: > I heard the unmistakable, melodious chorus of Quicklime Girl. I swear I > almost wet myself (granted, my destination is about a hour away, and I had > already downed a Big Gulp (tm)). After th! ! at, they played Before the Kiss. > Then they played a Mountain song and then an excerpt from Monty Python's, Life > of Brian - "Would you all just BUG OFF!" Ye freaking Gods! Life was good > again. Unfortunately, the station faded after that and all I could catch was > "Psychedelic Review", but not a call sign. On the way back they were playing > some rap, so I suspect it was a college station. Sounds like my old college radio show from '94-'97. I once did an all-BOC Halloween Special, and always played some BOC in my set. Hawkwind too, after I had discovered them (thanks to BOC-L). My favorite accomplishment was helping one of my professors rediscover BOC through my show. He had given up after AOF. Unfortunately I couldn't get him to like any later BOC, but I did get him to start listening to the first 3 albums again.... Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio There is no Dana, only Zuul http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 27 13:11:57 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:11:57 +0000 Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Jul 27 13:17:38 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:17:38 -0500 Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com Message-ID: Glad the site was a bit hit! My brother sent it to me today and I had to forward it on ... Knew you guys would get a chuckle out of it. ;) Karen Fraser Gray wrote: > > i once knew a guy who dressed like that, and looked a bit like that > too, he likes to be called > > Helen at the weekends > > >From: Ben Fagin > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: OFF: RubberBurner.com > >Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:46:46 +0100 > > > >lol - or burning them at any rate. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Fraser Gray > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 5:34 PM > > Subject: Re: OFF: RubberBurner.com > > > > > > well by the look of the dood in the piccie, they are in serious > danger of climbing up their own arses > > > > > > > > >From: Ben Fagin > > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > >Subject: Re: OFF: RubberBurner.com > > >Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:30:29 +0100 > > > > > >so who are these dudes? > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Karen Kusic" > > >To: > > >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 4:31 PM > > >Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com > > > > > > > > > > Do you feel that a great personal appearance (style) and a huge > personal > > > > interest in heavy-duty motors (engines) seem like a > contradiction? > > > > > > > > http://www.rubberburner.com/ > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Jul 27 13:22:54 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:22:54 -0700 Subject: OFF: Radio Play In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Was this in the Northeast? Connecticut, specifically? If so, it sounds like WCNI (which is actually 91.1f fm), which is the extremely eclectic station at Conn College, with a site here: http://oak.conncoll.edu/wcni/ KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Rus Hall Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:36 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: BOC: Radio Play Last night I was heading down to a somewhat local place to see The Fixx. Speaking of tangents, its the same place that had Nazareth two nights before (seems there were only 90 people that night and Naz. decided to stay in the bus and say piss off to the meager turn out, but that's another story) Anyway, I was cruising through the radio freqs and getting rather disgusted at the lack of quality music (all talk, rap, gutteral screaming, and schmultz). Finally, with one final jabof the search button I yelled, "Good God! Isn't there anyone out playing REAL %^&*#@! music!". The fates must have smiled because just then the radio stopped on the freq 91.7fm (it was also 9:17pm - another weird coincidence), and I heard the unmistakable, melodious chorus of Quicklime Girl. I swear I almost wet myself (granted, my destination is about a hour away, and I had already downed a Big Gulp (tm)). After th! ! at, they played Before the Kiss. Then they played a Mountain song and then an excerpt from Monty Python's, Life of Brian - "Would you all just BUG OFF!" Ye freaking Gods! Life was good again. Unfortunately, the station faded after that and all I could catch was "Psychedelic Review", but not a call sign. On the way back they were playing some rap, so I suspect it was a college station. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Jul 27 14:23:09 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:23:09 -0600 Subject: Thrilling Hawkwind confusion In-Reply-To: <200107271628.RAA06593@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: 2 be or not 2 be??: Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures GRF840CD and Thrilling Hawkwind Stories GCD8402 I wondered why people referred to this differently... The answer to this question justifies the list it has arisen from. ???????????? m I suspect it's a glitch of distributers, but I am old and decrepit now, and after discovering this Griffin radio promo sampler from Canada, and seeing the Warrior tricks that occured... just might be!!!!! From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Jul 27 13:25:56 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:25:56 -0700 Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com In-Reply-To: <3B618959.875C2081@execpc.com> Message-ID: I saw this site before, having "earned" five L's at: http://www.losers.org/ KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Karen Kusic Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 8:32 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com Do you feel that a great personal appearance (style) and a huge personal interest in heavy-duty motors (engines) seem like a contradiction? http://www.rubberburner.com/ From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 27 13:41:50 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:41:50 +0000 Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 27 14:37:22 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:37:22 -0400 Subject: HW: Thrilling Hawkwind confusion Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:28:48 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >Does anyone know if there's a difference between: > > >Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures GRF840CD and > >Thrilling Hawkwind Stories GCD8402 They would almost certainly be the same. In the US, the last number for an album's UPC code indicates the format. -1 is vinyl, -2 is CD, I think -3 is cassette, and I believe there may be others for DAT etc. So 8402 is probably the US catalog number, and 840CD is probably the Canadian catalog number (the '2' and the 'CD' indicate the same thing), since I don't think the US UPC numbering system is used anywhere else in the world. Of course, that doesn't explain the alternate title or catalog number prefix, but it's a start ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jul 27 15:03:20 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:03:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Thrilling Hawkwind confusion In-Reply-To: <200107271837.OAA14000@listserv.spc.edu>; from jasret@MINDSPRING.COM on Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 02:37:22PM -0400 Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 02:37:22PM -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:28:48 +0100, M Holmes wrote: > >Does anyone know if there's a difference between: > >Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures GRF840CD and > >Thrilling Hawkwind Stories GCD8402 > > So 8402 is probably the US catalog number, and 840CD is probably the > Canadian catalog number > > Of course, that doesn't explain the alternate title or catalog number > prefix, but it's a start ... Lawsuit avoidance? It's clearly a takeoff on the SF pulp "Thrilling Wonder Stories" (gee, where have we seen that before? :-) Maybe Griffin Canada got cold feet. (I'm surprised it wasn't the other way around; presumably TWS was an American publication, in which case getting too close to its name would, if anything, be MORE dangerous in the States than elsewhere.) As for the prefix, gotta get that "CD" in there somewhere :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jul 27 15:13:39 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:13:39 EDT Subject: BOC: Radio Play In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 27 Jul 2001, at 12:55, Brian Halligan wrote: > Rus wrote: > > I heard the unmistakable, melodious chorus of Quicklime Girl. I > > swear I almost wet myself (granted, my destination is about a hour > > away, and I had already downed a Big Gulp (tm)). After th! ! at, > > they played Before the Kiss. Then they played a Mountain song and > > then an excerpt from Monty Python's, Life of Brian - "Would you all > > just BUG OFF!" Ye freaking Gods! Life was good again. > > Unfortunately, the station faded after that and all I could catch > > was "Psychedelic Review", but not a call sign. On the way back they > > were playing some rap, so I suspect it was a college station. > > Sounds like my old college radio show from '94-'97. I once did an > all-BOC Halloween Special, and always played some BOC in my set. > Hawkwind too, after I had discovered them (thanks to BOC-L). > > My favorite accomplishment was helping one of my professors rediscover > BOC through my show. He had given up after AOF. Unfortunately I > couldn't get him to like any later BOC, but I did get him to start > listening to the first 3 albums again.... > Hey, Brian, Rob Halligan is playing a gig in Syracuse this week. Maybe I ought to show up and request Beat em Up? theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Jul 27 15:21:16 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:21:16 -0400 Subject: BOC: Radio Play In-Reply-To: <3B618522.9880.AD67B@localhost> Message-ID: Theo wrote: > Rob Halligan is playing a gig in Syracuse this week. Maybe I ought > to show up and request Beat em Up? You mean, just point at him and yell "Beat 'Em Up"? ;-) Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio There is no Dana, only Zuul http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jul 27 16:51:06 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:51:06 EDT Subject: HW: Thrilling Hawkwind confusion Message-ID: In a message dated 7/27/01 3:03:29 PM, erics at TELEPRES.COM writes: << Lawsuit avoidance? It's clearly a takeoff on the SF pulp "Thrilling Wonder Stories" (gee, where have we seen that before? :-) Maybe Griffin Canada got cold feet. (I'm surprised it wasn't the other way around; presumably TWS was an American publication, in which case getting too close to its name would, if anything, be MORE dangerous in the States than elsewhere.) ==== this one disagrees the title of a [long-dead] pulp couldnt be confused w/ that album, whatever it is.... btw, it's not a deciding factor, but does the pulp still exist? "<>" 3 full days of copyright research at the Library of Congress in the '90s on behalf of New England Comics Press. From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 27 20:06:32 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:06:32 EDT Subject: HW: Thrilling Hawkwind confusion Message-ID: In a message dated 7/27/01 1:38:00 PM US Eastern Standard Time, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures GRF840CD and > > > >Thrilling Hawkwind Stories GCD8402 > > They would almost certainly be the same. > > So 8402 is probably the US catalog number, and 840CD is probably the > Canadian catalog number Just pulled mine out (I mean the CD, nothing else . . .) "Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures" GCD840-2. Made in da USA > Of course, that doesn't explain the alternate title or catalog number > prefix, but it's a start ... > > > Well, like I always say, "Truth is stranger than television." > (Not really apropos of anything, I just like saying it!) > > From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Fri Jul 27 20:30:08 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:30:08 -0400 Subject: OFF: CD Services catalog Message-ID: Just got the latest CD Services psych/space-rock catalog (with High Tide - Open Season in it) and I had a few questions regarding the A-Z list catalog, but since they involve bands that are of interest to at least a few others on this list I am posting them here instead of directly to AndyG... Blue Oyster Cult - For the Heavy Metal Kids (Live NY 72) What is this? I don't recall it being mentioned on the list before. Darxtar - Darxtar/Daybreak Is Daybreak really available? F/i - Earthpipe I think this was an early 90's release but I've never seen (or heard) it - where is this coming from? I assume its not part of the Lexicon Devil reissues as they were covering the earlier material... Farflung - Myth of Solid Ground/When Science Fails Knew the second was coming soon, but had no idea that Myth was finally getting a proper release. Good news! Who is releasing it? High Tide - Ancient Gates Looks like yet another source for this... hey STEPHE, if you do grab this title, let us know if its really as bad as its made out to be... Marble Sheep - Shinjuku Loft I could have sworn this was out-of-print - I have been burning copies of it for trade - looks like I've been doing a bad, bad thing. I had also heard that Captain Trip would soon be deleting the other Marble Sheep mk. I titles (Old From New Heads and Whirl), or is that also not the case? Tangle Edge - In Search of a New Dawn I think this was only on vinyl for a long time - is this really available now on CD? Thanks in advance for any feedback, Stephan From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Fri Jul 27 20:30:09 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:30:09 -0400 Subject: HW: Conversion to the Church Message-ID: Back in the early 80's my friends and I would get together on weekends and listen to all sorts of stuff - from Renaissance, Kate Bush, and Steeleye Span, to Battlefield Band, Horslips, and Jethro Tull, to Genesis, Peter Gabriel, and Gentle Giant, to BOC, Motorhead, and Saxon, to Venom, Mercyful Fate, and Slayer, to Bad Brains, Minor Threat, and the FUs, to you get the picture. Of course not everyone liked everything, and we had some pretty lively discussuions regarding the musical merits of various artists and albums. We listened to quite a bit of punk/hardcore where being 'authentic' was a virtue, and occasionally someone would score a bootleg, so poor sound was never a problem for me as long as something good and/or interesting was to be heard - that's why I like Text of Festival for example (at least the second part). When I got bit by the Hawkwind bug I naturally tried to get the others into it, with varying degrees of success. One friend in particular I tried to convince - our musical tastes overlapped quite a bit and even where they didn't we could usually see where the other guy was coming from - he also happened to be the person who first got me into BOC, though that didn't figure at the time - but he remained indifferent. I threw everything I had at him, but even though he liked prog-rock and Sabbath not even Warrior and Space Ritual were working - I was stymied. Then one day we were lounging around and I put on Bring Me the Head of Yuri Gagarin, and as Bob was howling "Ur-beh-he-he-he-he'an" during Urban Guerrila my friend turned to me and said "Yeah, they actually are pretty cool". Just goes to show you ... I'm not sure WHAT it shows you, but it must show something ... Stephan From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Jul 27 20:19:26 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:19:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com In-Reply-To: <3B61A232.F3A238B2@execpc.com> Message-ID: It's a spoof, I think, but it's so well done... Now I'm not sure about www.pixyland.org ... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Fri Jul 27 20:24:35 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:24:35 -0700 Subject: OFF: RubberBurner.com Message-ID: > > It's a spoof, I think, but it's so well done... Now I'm not sure about > www.pixyland.org ... > Sadly that one's real. It just won a Webby award, in the "Strange" category..... scorch From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 27 21:07:25 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 21:07:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: CD Services catalog Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:30:08 -0400, Stephan Forstner wrote: >Just got the latest CD Services psych/space-rock catalog >and I had a few questions regarding the A-Z list catalog, >but since they involve bands that are of interest to at least a few others >on this list I am posting them here instead of directly to AndyG... > >Blue Oyster Cult - For the Heavy Metal Kids (Live NY 72) >What is this? I don't recall it being mentioned on the list before. A Spanish (Munster Records, I think) release of the 4-song "live" EP. All 4 songs are now available "offically" between the WotT 2-CD set and the new remasters. I have a copy on 10" vinyl ... >F/i - Earthpipe >I think this was an early 90's release but I've never seen (or heard) it - >where is this coming from? I assume its not part of the Lexicon Devil >reissues as they were covering the earlier material... This was a German-released "live" album of their second German tour (the first one had John Frankovic of Plasticland filling in for Richard Franecki before he quit the band, the third German tour was a "Ginger Baker's Hawkwind"-type affair where their ex-drummer put together a fake F/i for the tour!). And to tie in with one of your other questions, it includes a *great* cover of "Flying Hay (like a sheep)" by Marble Sheep (and also an *awful* cover of "2000 Light Years From Home" that the band blame on said ex-drummer). It won't be part of the Lexicon Devil reissue program, although most of the songs originally appeared (studio versions) on albums that will be. It also includes one of their very, very few "vocal" numbers, "Stop At The Left", which orignally appeared on the 'Badger A Go Go' compilation (I have pestered Lexicon Devil about including the studio version as a bonus track, but I think that's up in the air). >Marble Sheep - Shinjuku Loft >I could have sworn this was out-of-print - I have been burning copies of it >for trade - looks like I've been doing a bad, bad thing. I had also heard >that Captain Trip would soon be deleting the other Marble Sheep mk. I >titles (Old From New Heads and Whirl), or is that also not the case? Not sure about that. I can ask folks who would know. Of course, I still wish that someone would reissue the first Marble Sheep album on Alchemy. That's one you don't have to feel guilty about burning copies of! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Jul 27 22:09:15 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 22:09:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: CD Services catalog Message-ID: hey-always looking for new sources for interesting music. how do i get a catalog?? tim Stephan Forstner wrote: > > Just got the latest CD Services psych/space-rock catalog (with High Tide - > Open Season in it) and I had a few questions regarding the A-Z list catalog, > but since they involve bands that are of interest to at least a few others > on this list I am posting them here instead of directly to AndyG... > > Blue Oyster Cult - For the Heavy Metal Kids (Live NY 72) > What is this? I don't recall it being mentioned on the list before. > > Darxtar - Darxtar/Daybreak > Is Daybreak really available? > > F/i - Earthpipe > I think this was an early 90's release but I've never seen (or heard) it - > where is this coming from? I assume its not part of the Lexicon Devil > reissues as they were covering the earlier material... > > Farflung - Myth of Solid Ground/When Science Fails > Knew the second was coming soon, but had no idea that Myth was finally > getting a proper release. Good news! Who is releasing it? > > High Tide - Ancient Gates > Looks like yet another source for this... hey STEPHE, if you do grab this > title, let us know if its really as bad as its made out to be... > > Marble Sheep - Shinjuku Loft > I could have sworn this was out-of-print - I have been burning copies of it > for trade - looks like I've been doing a bad, bad thing. I had also heard > that Captain Trip would soon be deleting the other Marble Sheep mk. I titles > (Old From New Heads and Whirl), or is that also not the case? > > Tangle Edge - In Search of a New Dawn > I think this was only on vinyl for a long time - is this really available > now on CD? > > Thanks in advance for any feedback, > Stephan From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Jul 27 22:13:17 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 22:13:17 -0400 Subject: HW: Conversion to the Church Message-ID: 1)`the vultures fly high..." way too cool (annie haslam-what a babe) 2)`hashish...hashish...hashish...hashishin...'...how can you hear that and not love the hawks??? tim Stephan Forstner wrote: > > Back in the early 80's my friends and I would get together on weekends and > listen to all sorts of stuff - from Renaissance, Kate Bush, and Steeleye > Span, to Battlefield Band, Horslips, and Jethro Tull, to Genesis, Peter > Gabriel, and Gentle Giant, to BOC, Motorhead, and Saxon, to Venom, Mercyful > Fate, and Slayer, to Bad Brains, Minor Threat, and the FUs, to you get the > picture. Of course not everyone liked everything, and we had some pretty > lively discussuions regarding the musical merits of various artists and > albums. We listened to quite a bit of punk/hardcore where being 'authentic' > was a virtue, and occasionally someone would score a bootleg, so poor sound > was never a problem for me as long as something good and/or interesting was > to be heard - that's why I like Text of Festival for example (at least the > second part). When I got bit by the Hawkwind bug I naturally tried to get > the others into it, with varying degrees of success. One friend in > particular I tried to convince - our musical tastes overlapped quite a bit > and even where they didn't we could usually see where the other guy was > coming from - he also happened to be the person who first got me into BOC, > though that didn't figure at the time - but he remained indifferent. I threw > everything I had at him, but even though he liked prog-rock and Sabbath not > even Warrior and Space Ritual were working - I was stymied. Then one day we > were lounging around and I put on Bring Me the Head of Yuri Gagarin, and as > Bob was howling "Ur-beh-he-he-he-he'an" during Urban Guerrila my friend > turned to me and said "Yeah, they actually are pretty cool". Just goes to > show you ... I'm not sure WHAT it shows you, but it must show something ... > Stephan From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 27 21:30:19 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 21:30:19 -0400 Subject: OFF: CD Services catalog Message-ID: >>Marble Sheep - Shinjuku Loft >>I could have sworn this was out-of-print - I have been burning copies of it >>for trade - looks like I've been doing a bad, bad thing. I had also heard >>that Captain Trip would soon be deleting the other Marble Sheep mk. I >>titles (Old From New Heads and Whirl), or is that also not the case? > >Not sure about that. I can ask folks who would know. Of course, I still >wish that someone would reissue the first Marble Sheep album on Alchemy. >That's one you don't have to feel guilty about burning copies of! I got that last year on vinyl, assuming it's the one with the semi-aforementioned Flying Hay (like a bird), and Cement Woman I & II. I guess that was a special vinyl reissue? I think I musta gotten it from Rick Wilkerson of Tombstone Valentine/Aether-Or. Did they release it themselves? Of course, you'd think Ken would release the CD himself if there was a demand for it! It's not like he seems to have any qualms about releasing other's dodgy works (see Neu! 4). I saw a couple Ruins CD's the other day....are they the harsher sort of psychedelia or might I dig them? I've had the same perception (rightly or wrongly) about High Rise. Sometimes Japanese psych seems to go *just* a bit over the top for my tastes. :) I prefer the "watered-down" Cosmic Invention type of stuff. >Tangle Edge - In Search of a New Dawn >I think this was only on vinyl for a long time - is this really available >now on CD? Yeah, not sure when though. Grakkl (FAA) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jul 27 22:55:08 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 22:55:08 EDT Subject: OFF: Renaissance: 'decadence' on tour? Message-ID: In a message dated 7/27/01 10:15:33 PM, ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: << (annie haslam-what a babe) >> option to delete this alleged scandalous gossip =========================== yes, she was a babe and yes, i really liked her voice but the way i heard it, almost 25 years ago, Renaissance brought themselves down because more than one of them contracted syph==syph== nnnggghhh no, i cant do it. sorry. "<>" All Freeware From sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK Sat Jul 28 05:38:02 2001 From: sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 10:38:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Leon Wilkeson Dead at 49 Message-ID: Subject: [acg] OT: Leon Wilkeson Dead at 49 Another candidate for the great gig in the sky :( > Original Lynyrd Skynyrd bassist Leon Wilkeson died in his sleep on Friday. See > story at http://www.pagesix.com/apstories/V8542.htm From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Sat Jul 28 08:40:53 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 07:40:53 -0500 Subject: tubilah dog Message-ID: HI, Can anyone tell me the tracklist from Tubilah dogs LP-Rock in a hard place? Also what year was it released? Did they release any other material? Thanks STEPHE From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Sat Jul 28 11:07:53 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 11:07:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: CD Services catalog Message-ID: From: "K Henderson" > >Tangle Edge - In Search of a New Dawn > >I think this was only on vinyl for a long time - is this really available > >now on CD? > > Yeah, not sure when though. My CD was 1994, Demi Monde DMCD 1009 Jerry From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Sat Jul 28 13:13:33 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 13:13:33 -0400 Subject: OFF: CD Services catalog Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 21:30:19 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >>Of course, I still >>wish that someone would reissue the first Marble Sheep album on Alchemy. > >I got that last year on vinyl, assuming it's the one with the >semi-aforementioned Flying Hay (like a bird), and Cement Woman I & II. That's the one! And with all sorts of (very obviously!) Daevid Allen- inspired art. >I guess that was a special vinyl reissue? I think I musta gotten it >from Rick Wilkerson of Tombstone Valentine/Aether-Or. >Did they release it themselves? >Of course, you'd think Ken would release the CD himself if there was a >demand for it! It's not like he seems to have any qualms about releasing >other's dodgy works (see Neu! 4). Perhaps he thinks it's in his best interest for the album to be a major "collectors item". >I saw a couple Ruins CD's the other day....are they the harsher sort of >psychedelia or might I dig them? I've had the same perception (rightly or >wrongly) about High Rise. Sometimes Japanese psych seems to go *just* a >bit over the top for my tastes. :) I prefer the "watered-down" Cosmic >Invention type of stuff. I'm not sure I'd categorize Ruins under 'Psychedelia' (not even to the extent that the first two High Rise albums are punk/psych "crossover"). They're a pretty harsh (but not nearly as harsh as, say, Zeni Geva) guitar/drums duo with more jazz & "math-rock" influence than psych. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Jul 28 16:29:39 2001 From: other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM (No Digest) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:29:39 +0000 Subject: tubilah dog Message-ID: Do you mean 'Rock in a Weird Place' or 'In Search of Plaice?' The tape of 'Rock in a Weird Place' has: 1. The Other Side of the Sky 2. The Rumour 3. Imhotep 4. City of Tiny Lites 5. Pillars of Fear 6. Step Down 7. Damnation Alley The CD of 'In Search of Plaice' has: 1. Watching (while the revolution dies) 2. Inside the Circle 3. Wyrd Romance 4. Flowers in the Forest 5. Flat, Broke and Busted 6. Friends 7. Domitius 8. O.W.V. Mark > ** Original Subject: tubilah dog > ** Original Sender: Stephen Lindas > ** Original Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 13:50:08 +0100 > ** Original Message follows... > > HI, Can anyone tell me the tracklist from Tubilah dogs LP-Rock in a hard > place? Also what year was it released? Did they release any other material? > Thanks STEPHE >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Interviewer: 'you've been looking at the stars all your life. Is there any truth in astrology?' Arthur. C. Clarke: 'It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so of course I'm sceptical.' Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com From other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Jul 28 16:31:52 2001 From: other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM (No Digest) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:31:52 +0000 Subject: tubilah dog Message-ID: Also - 'In Search of Plaice' was released in 1998. Don't know the years of their other stuff. I have 'Rock In A Weird Place', a live comp called 'Dog Daze', and there were two tracks on the 'Travellers' Aid Trust' album..........don't know about anything else...... Mark > ** Original Subject: tubilah dog > ** Original Sender: Stephen Lindas > ** Original Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 13:50:08 +0100 > ** Original Message follows... > > HI, Can anyone tell me the tracklist from Tubilah dogs LP-Rock in a hard > place? Also what year was it released? Did they release any other material? > Thanks STEPHE >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Interviewer: 'you've been looking at the stars all your life. Is there any truth in astrology?' Arthur. C. Clarke: 'It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so of course I'm sceptical.' Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Sat Jul 28 16:24:49 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 22:24:49 +0200 Subject: tubilah dog In-Reply-To: <20010728193328.MYIO710.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@[169.254.168 .93]> Message-ID: >Do you mean 'Rock in a Weird Place' or 'In Search of Plaice?' > >The tape of 'Rock in a Weird Place' has: > >1. The Other Side of the Sky >2. The Rumour >3. Imhotep >4. City of Tiny Lites >5. Pillars of Fear >6. Step Down >7. Damnation Alley > >The CD of 'In Search of Plaice' has: > >1. Watching (while the revolution dies) >2. Inside the Circle >3. Wyrd Romance >4. Flowers in the Forest >5. Flat, Broke and Busted >6. Friends >7. Domitius >8. O.W.V. > >Mark > > > > ** Original Subject: tubilah dog > > ** Original Sender: Stephen Lindas > > ** Original Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 13:50:08 +0100 > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > HI, Can anyone tell me the tracklist from Tubilah dogs LP-Rock in a hard > > place? Also what year was it released? Did they release any other material? > > Thanks STEPHE >and if you are looking for the cd In Search of Plaice i have a copy here >for sale/trade. andre From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Jul 28 17:21:15 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 22:21:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: Renaissance: 'decadence' on tour? Message-ID: 'Ere, d'ya know Annie was married (might still be) to Roy Wood of Wizard? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 3:55 AM Subject: OFF: Renaissance: 'decadence' on tour? > In a message dated 7/27/01 10:15:33 PM, ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: > > << (annie haslam-what a babe) >> > > option to delete this alleged scandalous gossip > =========================== > yes, she was a babe > and yes, i really liked her voice > > but the way i heard it, almost 25 years ago, > > Renaissance brought themselves down > because more than one of them > contracted syph==syph== > nnnggghhh > > no, i cant do it. sorry. > > "<>" > > > All Freeware From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Sat Jul 28 17:39:43 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 16:39:43 -0500 Subject: tubilah dog Message-ID: It must be rock in a weird place. Last track is Damnation alley. Was it a cassette only release? -----Original Message----- From: No Digest [mailto:other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 3:30 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: tubilah dog Do you mean 'Rock in a Weird Place' or 'In Search of Plaice?' The tape of 'Rock in a Weird Place' has: 1. The Other Side of the Sky 2. The Rumour 3. Imhotep 4. City of Tiny Lites 5. Pillars of Fear 6. Step Down 7. Damnation Alley The CD of 'In Search of Plaice' has: 1. Watching (while the revolution dies) 2. Inside the Circle 3. Wyrd Romance 4. Flowers in the Forest 5. Flat, Broke and Busted 6. Friends 7. Domitius 8. O.W.V. Mark > ** Original Subject: tubilah dog > ** Original Sender: Stephen Lindas > ** Original Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 13:50:08 +0100 > ** Original Message follows... > > HI, Can anyone tell me the tracklist from Tubilah dogs LP-Rock in a hard > place? Also what year was it released? Did they release any other material? > Thanks STEPHE >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Interviewer: 'you've been looking at the stars all your life. Is there any truth in astrology?' Arthur. C. Clarke: 'It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so of course I'm sceptical.' Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Jul 28 20:01:51 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 01:01:51 +0100 Subject: OFF: CD Services catalog Message-ID: just e.mail me your name addresss and phone number (work or home) AND WE SEND ALL THE "HAWKWIND, PSYCH,SPACE--ROCK AND STONER" CATALOGUES WE HAVE ON THE DESK AT THE TIME,ALL FOR FREE. Soooo...................... The BOC 'HM Kids' is one of those that's been around before but this one's a neat digi-pak with great sound. The Marble Sheep - it is deleted - we dug two up in a warehouse but Dave forgot to write 'deleted - 2 only' on it (the same way he forgets to put the impending release date of product not out yet!!!). F/i - total error - not been around for ages but on checking, our flamin' computer says we have one in stock, so that's how it's there (memo to self - redo stock-take!!) Tangle Edge is still available to order, according to Dave Anderson.. Darxtar - we found three at a new wholesaler in Germany but turned out to be stock left on their shelves so three was it - needless to say they went in a flash!! Farflung - yes, 'Myth' is coming out (see not above about Dave not putting dates of forthcoming stuff) and we are actually considering it for release on Centaur or Dead Earnest. Release end of year. Just so you know, I am constantly scouring catalogues and wholesalers lists from around the world and it's amazing what you can dig up but it's always in and out of our place before you know it - often just mentioned on the phone without having to go in any catalogue - that's how we got the 15 copies of 'Levitation' on Griffin (now deleted) with 'Nuclear Toy' on it (going fast, by the way) and all the copies of the BGO vinyl of 'Capt Lockheed', etc, etc. Like I always say about CD Services (not a business owned by me by the way, for anyone thinking otherwise), if it weren't for the fact that they don't advertise, has an ongoing website construction job longer than it took to build the Forth Road Bridge, and let me check all the non-review catalogues before they hit the streets, we could be dangerous!! Still they've had nearly 6 years of the benefit of my genius (modesty never being a strong point) so s'pose they can't complain. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 3:09 AM Subject: Re: OFF: CD Services catalog > > Blue Oyster Cult - For the Heavy Metal Kids (Live NY 72) > > Darxtar - Darxtar/Daybreak > > Is Daybreak really available? > > F/i - Earthpipe > > Farflung - Myth of Solid Ground/When Science Fails > > > > High Tide - Ancient Gates > > Marble Sheep - Shinjuku Loft > > Tangle Edge - In Search of a New Dawn > > I think this was only on vinyl for a long time - is this really available > > now on CD? > > > > Thanks in advance for any feedback, > > Stephan From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Jul 29 01:23:40 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 23:23:40 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Mary Sullivan Bruce In-Reply-To: <003701c117ab$45e58240$611028d5@starfield> Message-ID: got a call from Mary... her mother is GRAVELY ill (outlook BAD) I have the number she is residing- should anyone wish to contact mike c From other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Jul 29 05:48:56 2001 From: other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM (No Digest) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 09:48:56 +0000 Subject: tubilah dog Message-ID: As far as I know....most of their stuff was on tape. Mark > ** Original Subject: Re: tubilah dog > ** Original Sender: Stephen Lindas > ** Original Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 22:47:26 +0100 > ** Original Message follows... > > It must be rock in a weird place. Last track is Damnation alley. Was it a > cassette only release? > > -----Original Message-----From: No Digest [mailto:other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM] > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 3:30 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: tubilah dog > > > Do you mean 'Rock in a Weird Place' or 'In Search of Plaice?' > > The tape of 'Rock in a Weird Place' has: > > 1. The Other Side of the Sky > 2. The Rumour > 3. Imhotep > 4. City of Tiny Lites > 5. Pillars of Fear > 6. Step Down > 7. Damnation Alley > > The CD of 'In Search of Plaice' has: > > 1. Watching (while the revolution dies) > 2. Inside the Circle > 3. Wyrd Romance > 4. Flowers in the Forest > 5. Flat, Broke and Busted > 6. Friends > 7. Domitius > 8. O.W.V. > > Mark > > > > ** Original Subject: tubilah dog > > ** Original Sender: Stephen Lindas > > ** Original Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 13:50:08 +0100 > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > HI, Can anyone tell me the tracklist from Tubilah dogs LP-Rock in a hard > > place? Also what year was it released? Did they release any other > material? > > Thanks STEPHE > > >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > > > > > Interviewer: 'you've been looking at the stars all your life. Is there any > truth in astrology?' > Arthur. C. Clarke: 'It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so of > course I'm sceptical.' > > Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Interviewer: 'you've been looking at the stars all your life. Is there any truth in astrology?' Arthur. C. Clarke: 'It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so of course I'm sceptical.' Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Sun Jul 29 07:45:04 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 06:45:04 -0500 Subject: tubilah dog Message-ID: Thank you for thr info, STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: No Digest [mailto:other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 4:49 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: tubilah dog As far as I know....most of their stuff was on tape. Mark > ** Original Subject: Re: tubilah dog > ** Original Sender: Stephen Lindas > ** Original Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 22:47:26 +0100 > ** Original Message follows... > > It must be rock in a weird place. Last track is Damnation alley. Was it a > cassette only release? > > -----Original Message-----From: No Digest [mailto:other.mark at NTLWORLD.COM] > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 3:30 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: tubilah dog > > > Do you mean 'Rock in a Weird Place' or 'In Search of Plaice?' > > The tape of 'Rock in a Weird Place' has: > > 1. The Other Side of the Sky > 2. The Rumour > 3. Imhotep > 4. City of Tiny Lites > 5. Pillars of Fear > 6. Step Down > 7. Damnation Alley > > The CD of 'In Search of Plaice' has: > > 1. Watching (while the revolution dies) > 2. Inside the Circle > 3. Wyrd Romance > 4. Flowers in the Forest > 5. Flat, Broke and Busted > 6. Friends > 7. Domitius > 8. O.W.V. > > Mark > > > > ** Original Subject: tubilah dog > > ** Original Sender: Stephen Lindas > > ** Original Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 13:50:08 +0100 > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > HI, Can anyone tell me the tracklist from Tubilah dogs LP-Rock in a hard > > place? Also what year was it released? Did they release any other > material? > > Thanks STEPHE > > >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > > > > > Interviewer: 'you've been looking at the stars all your life. Is there any > truth in astrology?' > Arthur. C. Clarke: 'It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so of > course I'm sceptical.' > > Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Interviewer: 'you've been looking at the stars all your life. Is there any truth in astrology?' Arthur. C. Clarke: 'It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so of course I'm sceptical.' Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jul 29 13:59:13 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:59:13 +0000 Subject: BOC: Lots o' Stuff Message-ID: eaval is only 1119 foot high . know of E.T.I.,but as to black blades i wont settle for lies ,so dont fear the reaper,CARRER OF EVAL.,good to see hw,& boc on the same page no floyd but what about magnum.ps could do with one ,well it is that kingdom of madness,how is it a master of disguise. >From: "John A. Swartz" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: BOC: Lots o' Stuff >Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 09:06:45 -0400 > > > Umm... call me crazy but I thought that it was written by A.Bouchard and >D. > > Roeser after taking the music from Arthur Comics. > > The remaster lists "S. Pearlman, E. Bloom and A Bouchard" in the writing > > credits for the studio version. Odd. > > The plot thickens? > >Yes, I think this was an obvious mistake - hell, this doesn't even list >BUCK as having written Buck's Boogie. Probably a cut and paste error >from another song - the "Workshop of the Telescopes" compilation finally >got it right (according to Bolle) - previously it was credited only to >Buck, but the compilation credited it to both Buck and Albert. > >Besides, exactly what part of Buck's Boogie could be attributed to Sandy >Pearlman - he only supplied lyrics! > >"The plot thickens?" Nah, don't be so cynical. > > > > What I love about BOC's Mk. I lineup (shout out to all you DP fans who >know > > this kinda fun group labeling)) > >Hey, has anyone ever done one of those "tree diagrams" showing all the >incarnations of BOC and where various members came from or went to? > > > > It would be a cool venture, and probably one that wont' result in money > > loss, if BOC authorized Bolle to do a "Bolle's Picks" bootleg series of >the > > shows he has (and the band member's show archives too) akin to the > > collector series that King Crim has of bootlegged shows gone by. > > >Indeed. However, I suspect that much of "Bolle's Picks" are being >handled with these remasters as I believe he made some suggestions to >Sony as to what should/could be included. So, with these remasters and >the SFG album (oh, and the Buck Dharma Archive stuff too), you're really >getting some of the best of the best stuff out there. Perhaps after all >the Remasters come out we could take stock of what stuff is still out >there that should see the light of day (SWU demos perhaps?). > > > > I think we would all want the complete Live in the west, given the two > > samples on T&M alone. > >Agreed. > > > What are the rest of the tracks on the album/tape by the way? > >Funny you should ask - I'm adding the "Live in the West" to the FAQ - >here's the entry that will be in the next revision (due out in August, I >hope): > >*Live In The West* (Also known as *BOC In The West* - Soundboard >Recording, Tape Only) > >1. Stairway To The Stars >2. O.D.'d On Life Itself >3. Harvester Of Eyes >4. Flaming Telepaths >5. Dominance And Submission >6. The Subhuman >7. 7 Screaming Diz-Busters >8. Astronomy >9. Cities On Flame With Rock And Roll >10. Buck's Boogie >11. Hot Rails To Hell >12. Maserati GT > >Notes: Strictly speaking, this is not a "bootleg", but a live tape. >What distinguishes it from other BOC live tapes is that this recording >was produced by the band (actually by soundman George Geranios) and >circulated among family and friends. It was created from shows done >during a week in July of 1975, in Washington, Oregon and California, and >has been traded extensively by fans since that time. It is perhaps most >noted for it's version of "7 Screaming Diz-Busters" which features an >extended "rap" by Eric telling the story of selling his soul to the >Devil to become a rock star, and forseeing his future in a nursing home >for old rock stars when the Devil comes calling for his soul. This >track, along with "O.D.'d On Life Itself" were released by >Columbia/Legacy on the *Tyranny And Mutation* re-master as bonus tracks. > > > > the limo man kept on driving, > >Don't you just LOVE this track?!?! > > > > Although I can somewhat understand it, I have to put up a (small) >protest to > > the slagging Mirrors occasionally takes here. Sure, it's got its share >of > > dogs (Dr. Music) and somewhat boring stuff (Moon Crazy, Lonely >Teardrops), > > but The Great Sun Jester is definitely one of my all-time favorite BOC > > pieces, The Vigil is likewise great, I am the Storm is pretty good, and >I > > really like In Thee, which I take at face value as a completely >non-ironic > > statement and love it for both its sentiment and its presentation. > > Admittedly the album is a very mixed bag, but the good tracks here are > > really good, in several different ways. Maybe the fact that they seem to >be > > all over the place turns people off? Or is it that this was too 'pop'-py >an > > album? > > >Sigh - anytime Mirrors, Revolution By Night, or (esp.) Club Ninja gets >degraded in any way (even if IN JEST!!!), someone always rushes to its >defense. There IS good stuff on the album - even the tracks you >mentioned not liking (Dr. Music, Moon Crazy, Lonely Teardrops) are >enjoyable to me - but as a whole the album has its problems. Bolle has >said that Mirrors nearly singlehandedly destroyed the fanclub in the 70s >- not his words, but he did say that the "membership" dropped WAY off >after Mirrors came out. > > > > > > > As for rejected songs being lesser than songs that make an album, that > > > is not always the case. There are any number of reasons a song > > > might be dropped from an album. Sometimes the song just doesn't > > > quite fit in with the rest of the songs...so no matter how good it > > > is, it gets cut. This happened fairly frequently with Jethro Tull, > > > for instance... > >"Boorman the Chauffer" is a great example, IMHO. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jul 29 14:28:33 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:28:33 +0000 Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong Message-ID: what about black sabbath s hole in the sky ! bykers of the watering trough who did not trust hawkwind ,somebody should have told ozzie its not actually 1 hole but 2 holes ,admittingly its the increased strenth of the magnetic fields causing mass of earth to be lost through those 2 holes in the sky ,ozone depletion.!?.surprisingly in the tommorows ,which is today plough shares into swords sounds a most excellant idea !would you believe even the CD players go bye bye when you turn them off ,pitty the wires wont . orral , skelms dale , wiggan , black rod ,. well i gess that for one hour a lot of people wont be happy moterhead remember hawkwind did it first. >From: DASLUD at AOL.COM >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: needle gun & headlong >Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:05:55 EDT > >In a message dated 7/3/01 1:44:04 PM, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > ><< . producer Roy Thomas Baker, >who worked on 'Captain Lockheed' as well as several Queen albums ... >(suddenly I'm struck with the horrible thought of trying to >create "Bohemian Rhapsody"-style massive harmony vocal overdubs using only >Bob Calvert's voice!) >> >======= >twas no hw nicked by queen; >twas _chic_ nicked by queen..... > >although--- >r. t. baker _did_ have a hand in "you'd better believe it" and >"paradox"...we >could consider the vocal sound on the lp version [not the 45], a live >version >tambien; >those 'down down and down' vox =on top= of brock's soloing near the end, >for >one thing >[as if that woulda/coulda happened live] > > >"<>" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Jul 29 16:31:28 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:31:28 EDT Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong Message-ID: In a message dated 7/29/01 2:30:00 PM, klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM writes: << remember hawkwind did it first. >> say _what_? "<>" From hw at CY-B.ORG Sun Jul 29 18:43:12 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:43:12 -0400 Subject: HW: silver Machine (cover band) Message-ID: Did any1 get to see the Silver Machine (hw cover band) at the Standard in Blackhorse Lane (London) last week? Rx From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jul 30 01:05:55 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:35:55 +0930 Subject: HW: silver Machine (cover band) Message-ID: Just wait for the Electric Tepee ((Hawkwind Cover Band)) to be unveiled early next year ((apologies for the silly identity - none of my other ones will work and none that I create will work either - sorry)) Michael Blackman **serious mode enabled** ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Rx To: Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 8:13 AM Subject: Re: HW: silver Machine (cover band) > Did any1 get to see the Silver Machine (hw cover band) > at the Standard in Blackhorse Lane (London) last week? > > Rx > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Jul 30 10:37:40 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:37:40 EDT Subject: CotHM ad! In-Reply-To: <3B5F0441.D0DCEE37@execpc.com> Message-ID: Holy shit! I was at an outlet mall this weekend, and against my better judgement went into Music for a Song, a typical mall-type record shop. Two amazing things happened. First, I found a 'limited tour edition 2 CD set:' Powertrip, with a bonus CD Viva Las Vegas (live in Las Vegas) with six live tunes by Wyndorf et al. Amazing stuff that I dodn't even know existed. I paid for my purchase, and the clerk put an ad flyer in the bag. When I got home I looked over the flyer, just for yucks, and on page touting 'new alternatives' is a thumbnail of CotHM! right between BBMAK and Bond's new releases. Pretty cool indeed seeing BOC taken seriously for a change... theo From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Jul 30 11:58:39 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:58:39 -0500 Subject: CotHM ad! Message-ID: Holy shit is right! Good finds. I found the 'limited tour edition 1 CD set' Powertrip at Music for a Song too awhile back. They even have a website: http://musicforasong.com/ The 2CD cut-out seems to be listed for $9.99! Yup - the live stuff is amazing. Especially when Dave says he wants to play a little "space rock" and the band launches into "Dinosaur Vacuum". Rawk on, Karen Ted Jackson wrote: > > Holy shit! > > I was at an outlet mall this weekend, and against my better > judgement went into Music for a Song, a typical mall-type record > shop. Two amazing things happened. First, I found a 'limited tour > edition 2 CD set:' Powertrip, with a bonus CD Viva Las Vegas (live > in Las Vegas) with six live tunes by Wyndorf et al. Amazing stuff > that I dodn't even know existed. > > I paid for my purchase, and the clerk put an ad flyer in the bag. > When I got home I looked over the flyer, just for yucks, and on > page touting 'new alternatives' is a thumbnail of CotHM! right > between BBMAK and Bond's new releases. Pretty cool indeed > seeing BOC taken seriously for a change... > > theo From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Mon Jul 30 13:32:23 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:32:23 EDT Subject: Hawkwind/Gong gig announcement Message-ID: Hello everybody. While I have not seen any info about this gis on Mission Control or Hawkwind.com over at www.planetgong.co.uk. there is an announcement of a Hawkwind/Gong gig as the end to Gong's month long tour of England, which is to be at Nottingham Rock Garden on Weds. Nov.7. Sounds awesome to this space cadet. What follows is from www.planetgong.co.uk. where the rest of Gong's tour dates are listed as well. Cheers and kisses, Eli Friedman GONG Updated Thursday, July 26, 2001 UK TOUR, OCTOBER/NOVEMBER Below are now the complete UK tour dates. Any more details and links will be added as they come in. The UK tour starts with a spectacular London gig with the Orb, and from Japan - Acid Mothers Temple...and as an added bonus this will be one of those rare, but oh so wonderful occasions when both Didier and Theo will be in the band. Didier will then be on board until the gig in Macclesfield as Theo is busy finishing off his own tour (see above), but from 14th onwards the Theodoplilus Acidopholus one will blow the Gong horn. And the whole UK tour ends in Nottingham with something equally spectacular as the first gig and something people have been wanting to see for a long time, Gong and Hawkwind together. Which is followed by a long list of gigs from early October ending up with: November Wed 07 - Nottingham, Rock Garden with Hawkwind. 0115 941 2544 From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jul 30 14:16:33 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:16:33 +0100 Subject: HW - This just in................ Message-ID: Gong at Edinburgh Liquid Rooms 4/11 and Hawkwind playing at Glasgow Garage 12/11 and Edinburgh Liquid Rooms 13/11 Amdy Garibaldi From jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE Mon Jul 30 14:05:17 2001 From: jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE (jc) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:05:17 +0100 Subject: OFF : 24 hour technicolor dream at Brixton Academy In-Reply-To: <00f401c11923$df625dc0$a40abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: hi there! Can anybody tell me if they're doing the 24-hour technicolor show at the Brixton Academy this year and, if so, when it is happening (usually mid-august) and what bands are playing this year? Thanhs! jean From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 30 17:46:47 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 22:46:47 +0100 Subject: HW - This just in................ Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: Re: HW - This just in................ Nottingham on the 7th > Gong at Edinburgh Liquid Rooms 4/11 > > and > > Hawkwind playing at Glasgow Garage 12/11 and > Edinburgh Liquid Rooms 13/11 and Newcastle's on the 14th.......... It's going to be a lonnnngggg weekend 8-? jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Amdy Garibaldi > From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon Jul 30 20:52:38 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:52:38 -0400 Subject: OFF: Did 'nardo ever sculpt MARBLE SHEEP during the RENAISSANCE? Message-ID: > The Marble Sheep (Shinjuku Loft) - it is deleted - we dug two up in a > warehouse but Dave forgot to write 'deleted - 2 only' on it Phwew, now I fell better. > ....Of course, I still wish that someone would reissue the first Marble > Sheep album on Alchemy. That's one you don't have to feel guilty about > burning copies of! And I sure wish I HAD one to burn copies of! Does anyone out there have this release and the ability to burn a copy? I apologize for my (gr/n)eediness but this title is sitting in lonely splendor at the very top of my wish-list... > 1)`the vultures fly high..." way too cool (annie haslam-what a babe) ... > yes, she was a babe > and yes, i really liked her voice Absolutely - regularly went to see Renaissance at the Bottom Line back in the day - get on line early, grab a seat right up by the stage, then lean back, look up, and worship... > but the way i heard it, almost 25 years ago, > Renaissance brought themselves down > because more than one of them > contracted syph==syph== > nnnggghhh Oh, ouch, more than I wanted to know... Got to get back on topic - "Copernicus had those Renaissance ladies" (lucky sod, but watch out for the syph...syph...nnngh) "I'm on the lamb but I ain't no (Marble) Sheep" (uh, watch out for the foot-and-mouth disease? get off that lamb now!) Stephan From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Jul 31 02:08:44 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:08:44 -0600 Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Keith Kirk: "well i gess that for one hour a lot of people wont be happy moterhead remember hawkwind did it first." still, sword man-on-kliff found busy motorway below cloud-line, no time for Christmas prices rising or battle of the bands, one entire hour was the time I lie, as knights steed must not have watered in haste, lest she got colic, and not cross flyover with Sabbath Bloody Sabbath for party-goers with K.O.S. From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jul 31 03:18:46 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:18:46 +0100 Subject: OT Blatant plug Message-ID: CRMission are playing their first gig at the Trinity in Harrow tomorrow evening (Wednesday 1st August), doors open 7pm, ?2 to get in. We're doing covers of Motorhead and Hurry On Sundown, and are just a tad HW/BOC/Ozrics/Motorhead influenced anyway, so it isn't totally OT! --- Kevin Perry The Mountain Grill http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Jul 31 06:27:50 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 03:27:50 -0700 Subject: Rarest Silver Machine Message-ID: No Mike, we all love you - Steve the Moonman P.S. There is nothing wrong living in a cave, as long as there is electricity to power the Hawkwind. I occupy a lovely Victorian dundgen. ---- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 4:03 PM Subject: Re: Rarest Silver Machine > dear people > > the usual message that I haven't forgotten about anyone > > I am currently living in terror of mortality, until hopefully around August > 13, and can't function properly (and I never do very well anyway) until I > am clear of fear > > anywho > > If any of you Hawkwind and Spacerock experts would like to take a peep at > the rarest Hawkwind Sliver Machine picture sleeve that you will probably > ever get to see, take a peep at my Collecter site (it's IRANIAN) > > I am not asking you to join or anything, cause I know you all hate me > through and through (well, most, not all)......also, you would probably be > bored to tears there, unless you have the Hawkwind Kollektor bug REAL bad... > > our plan is to rotate the homepage picture once every week > > peace > > and I AM SORRY for my constant disappearing act and personal inability to > live like a Human > > here it is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OPA-LOKA From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Jul 31 06:52:55 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 03:52:55 -0700 Subject: HW: on converting new souls Message-ID: The the finest way for new converts - Space Ritual and Clear Light Conversion. Just visited with an old buddy of mine Ray from far north California - way up there, who has collected not only a fair amount of HW memoribilia and a couple of videos and partied with the Great Ones (except Captain Brock) when the other members of HW were touring as The Band Formerly Known As Hawkwind, he still has the poster in his living room as well as other fine morsels of HW fame. The Bastard won't cop them up for yours truly -WHHAAA! He did obtain their phone numbers and addresses - NO!, not for Public disclosure. He told me while rapping with Nik and Simon he told them about the Clear Light adventures we had to such great works such as Warrior and Ritual a quarter of a century ago and they were very surprised as well as pleased to know that we Yanks were in to them so long ago. He also said they hold their own like we Californians do at the Party Table. Of course, I would expect nothing less. Bringing You the News Steve the Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 5:31 PM Subject: Re: HW: on converting new souls > Hey folks, (from Arin) > > "I've had a bunch of people ask me now to listen to HW, since I'm > so obsessive about them ;-) > What album do folks normally use to "turn" on new people to HW?"(snip) > > It won't work. The general masses are too stupid to accept HW the way we do- > they will put on the face of how great it is at first, but you'll later see > that their money is going to other artists, and they don't love it the way > they acted. > > Tell people that show an interest that it is now a sacred institution, and > it reaches special people, then draws them together. > > Tell them if the music didn't find THEM, then they are unlucky and not chosen. > > but since we all must strive forward in this area, especially when > questioned about our joy- > > Quark seems to be a real great one. > > I personally would try to shove acid down their throat (you know, if it > were legal), and play Space Ritual. > > When I went to the San Diego 89 show, a guy (we'll call him a guy anyway) > in the parking lot gave my friends liquid LSD, and I passed on it, since I > was driving (and it's not legal, of course), and I had plenty more drinking > to do, and I was happy on my Jack Daniels and beer "Springs" ....... > > meanwhile back at the hotel my Space Ritual cassette came in very handy...... > > I have never seen such mesmerized brain nothingness > > later, I was told it was a surreal experience of "Like music was playing, > yet not like music was playing" > > I know what they meant- > > I call it a sea. An Astral Ocean. > > mike C From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Jul 31 07:33:51 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 06:33:51 -0500 Subject: FW: [ICU] NIK TURNER demos 75/76 Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Lindas [mailto:lindas at marketday.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:33 AM To: 'innercityunit at yahoogroups.com' Cc: 'listserv.spc.edu' Subject: [ICU] NIK TURNER demos 75/76 Has anyone ever heard, seen or know if demos by NIK, exist from 75/76. I don't think these would be SPHYNX 78 demos. I know about those unless 75/76 are really the same, with wrong dates. CHEERS STEPHE Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Lose 20 lbs by September 24th! To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: InnerCityUnit-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Jul 31 13:20:16 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:20:16 +0100 Subject: Neil Young Message-ID: I KNOW that this has bugger all to do with Hawkwind.. BUT............. It is MUSIC related.... so I am hoping that one of you guys can help...... I need to get my hands on a copy of Neil Youngs "Rock and Roll Cowboys" (for those that might not know.. this is a four CD bootleg box set) I know that it is a hard (somewhat impossible) thing to come by..... But.. If anyone.. (or if anyone knows of anyone..) that has this.. I would be very grateful of a copy of it...... (in exchange for moneys ?) please please oh pretty please..... Can anyone help?? Layla. From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Jul 31 13:19:07 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:19:07 +0100 Subject: Neil Young Message-ID: I KNOW that this has bugger all to do with Hawkwind.. BUT............. It is MUSIC related.... so I am hoping that one of you guys can help...... I need to get my hands on a copy of Neil Youngs "Rock and Roll Cowboys" (for those that might not know.. this is a four CD bootleg box set) I know that it is a hard (somewhat imposible) thing to come by..... But.. If anyone.. (or if anyone knows of anyone..) that has this.. I would be very gratefull of a copy of it...... (in exhange for moneys ?) please please oh pretty please..... Can anyone help?? Layla. From christmu at EUNET.NO Tue Jul 31 17:14:37 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:14:37 +0200 Subject: OFF/HW: A Disease of The Mind... Message-ID: ...has been updated with a music/live review section at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/charlieyuga.html and includes reviews of Hawkwind's "Chronicle of The Black Sword", Inner City Unit's "Passout" and a brief live review of Motorhead, amongst other wildly entertaining and informative pieces of information. Chr. From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 31 18:52:03 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:52:03 +0100 Subject: HW Gigs Message-ID: Tickets for Glasgow and Edinburgh now acquired. Who is up for a pint...or few? Dave From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Tue Jul 31 19:01:35 2001 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:01:35 EDT Subject: Neil Young Message-ID: Hi Layla. I've got it. However, I don't have a burner (yet) although I'm working on one. Check back with me in a couple of weeks offlist and I'll see if I can get you fixed up! In a message dated 07/31/2001 12:17:15 PM Central Daylight Time, lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK writes: > > I KNOW that this has bugger all to do with Hawkwind.. > > BUT............. > > It is MUSIC related.... so I am hoping that one of you guys can help...... > > > I need to get my hands on a copy of Neil Youngs "Rock and Roll Cowboys" > > (for those that might not know.. this is a four CD bootleg box set) > > I know that it is a hard (somewhat imposible) thing to come by..... > > But.. If anyone.. (or if anyone knows of anyone..) that has this.. I would > be very gratefull of a copy of it...... (in exhange for moneys ?) > > please please oh pretty please..... > > > Can anyone help?? > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jul 31 07:09:02 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:39:02 +0930 Subject: HW Gigs Message-ID: uhuh!!! yeah!!! any more details on those concerts - please?? Michael B :) ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 8:30 PM Subject: Re: HW Gigs > david hall writes: > > > Tickets for Glasgow and Edinburgh now acquired. Who is up for a = > > pint...or few? > > I would, but I never ever drink before Hawkwind gigs :-) > > FoFP > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jul 31 08:22:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:52:45 +0930 Subject: HW: Tour dates Message-ID: Hi there Andy to answer your question briefly every dang one!!!!!!!! whooohooo even if I have to thumb a ride !!!! Yeah baby extacy!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:37 PM Subject: HW: Tour dates > Just received this official schedule: > > > HAWKWIND SCHEDULE 2001 > > > 10th October > Royal Festival Hall,London > Tel: 020 7921 0600 > > 3rd November > Wyvern Theatre, Swindon > Tel: 0179 352 4481 > > 6th November > Irish Centre, Leeds > Tel: 0113 248 0613 > > 7th November > Rock City, Nottingham > Tel: 0115 941 2544 > > 8th November > The Sanctuary, Birmingham > Tel: 0121 246 1010 > > 10th November > Manchester University > Tel: 0161 832 1111 > > 11th November > Royal Court Theatre, Liverpool > Tel: 0151 709 4321 > > 12th November > The Garage, Glasgow > Virgin:0141 332 4400 Way Ahead:0141 339 8383 > > 13th November > Liquid Room, Edinburgh > Ripping Records: 0131 226 7010 Virgin Records:0131 220 3234 Way Ahead: 0141 > 339 8383 Way Ahead: 0141 339 8383 Ticket Web: 0207 771 2000 Ticket Web: 0207 > 771 2000 Groucho's Dundee:01382 228496/www.wayahead.com/www.ticketweb.co.uk > > 14th November > Opera House, Newcastle > Tel: 0191 232 0899 > > 16th November > Coal Exchange, Cardiff > Box office: 02920 494 917 Ticketline: 02920 230130 > > 17th November > Hitchin Town Hall > Tel: 01462 456 202 > > 18th November > Poole Arts Centre > Te: 01202 685 222 > > 19th November > City Hall, Salisbury > Tel: 01722 327676 > > 20th November > Princess Theatre, Torquay > Tel: 08702 414120 > > 23rd November > Hastings Pier > Tel: 01424 439858 (10-7 pm) > > 24th November > Walthamstow Assembly Hall > 0208 521 7111 > > My question is, how many of these will Michael B be going to? ;) > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com >