From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 1 03:02:48 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 16:02:48 +0800 Subject: HW: Triple J Radio Tonight at 10:00 pm Eastern Australian time Message-ID: For the aussies (and everyone else :-) ) On radio tonight at 10:00 pm EST, Triple J will be airing a three hour Stoner Rock session which will include: Hawkwind, Kyuss, Black Sabbath, Rollerball, Fu Manchu, Blue Cheer and Monster Magnet - plus the current aussie scene. www.abc.net.au/triplej/jfiles will get you there Cheers Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Thu Feb 1 03:22:43 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:22:43 +0000 Subject: OFF: VH In-Reply-To: <095901c08b8f$84a676e0$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk> Message-ID: >> Yep. And the group complemented Dave's "talent" too. Even though he went >out >> and got a shredder like Steve Vai to play on his first solo albums, it was >> never as good as his VH days. > >Hey, I know I'm rapidly losing all credibility I might ever have had here, >but I loved Eat 'em and Smile... Lose credibility _here_? You'll have to try harder than that ;) Eat 'em and Smile was cheesey, but it was extremely well-made cheese. And tremendous fun :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 1 04:01:16 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:31:16 +1030 Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote Message-ID: Hi there people Feel like a vote Try this one Would desigining a poster of a band that you revere muchos grande then circulating said poster (at no charge) be considered....... (a) Undermining the bands ability to make an income in the poster department (b) promote the band greatly as well as possibly generate more interest for the band (c) a very naughty thing to do (d) ask me later when I'm sober/not quite so stoned curious Michael B -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 1 04:07:44 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:37:44 +1030 Subject: OFF: VH Message-ID: I saw Van Halen when they came to Oz a whiles back I'd still rather pay the hefty sum of money again to travel to London to see Hawkwind perform than van halen any day Theres my mean email for the year - feeling big & bad now - oh yeah watch out world..... ;>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 6:52 PM Subject: Re: OFF: VH > >> Yep. And the group complemented Dave's "talent" too. Even though he went > >out > >> and got a shredder like Steve Vai to play on his first solo albums, it was > >> never as good as his VH days. > > > >Hey, I know I'm rapidly losing all credibility I might ever have had here, > >but I loved Eat 'em and Smile... > > Lose credibility _here_? You'll have to try harder than that ;) Eat > 'em and Smile was cheesey, but it was extremely well-made cheese. And > tremendous fun :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:scylding at carlaz.com > http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 1 04:13:39 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:43:39 +1030 Subject: hawkwind care for a little humour?? Message-ID: Two Nuns Driving home one dark and stormy night, two nuns were shocked when a vampire landed right on the hood of their car. With gleaming yellow eyes and razor-sharp fangs dripping with blood, he slowly scratched on the windshield. The nun who was driving tried to keep the car on the road and screamed to the other nun, "SHOW HIM YOUR CROSS!" The other nun leaned out of the car window and yelled, "GET THE HELL OFF THE HOOD OF THIS CAR!" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Feb 1 06:59:21 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:59:21 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote Message-ID: Hi, I would say, B. Although some bands may not appreciate it, it would most probably just help them out a great deal in the long run. If it was my band, I think that I would appreciate it!! Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 02/01/01 09:01am >>> Hi there people Feel like a vote Try this one Would desigining a poster of a band that you revere muchos grande then circulating said poster (at no charge) be considered....... (a) Undermining the bands ability to make an income in the poster department (b) promote the band greatly as well as possibly generate more interest for the band (c) a very naughty thing to do (d) ask me later when I'm sober/not quite so stoned curious Michael B From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 1 06:25:50 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 07:25:50 EDT Subject: [OT] Roger Waters "In The Flesh" (was: HW: family tree tracklist) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010130235454.00844e30@flite.net> Message-ID: On 30 Jan 01, at 23:54, Andrew Apold wrote: > > And as Nick mentioned in his mail the band > >should have disbanded after the "Final Cut". > > The irony of this statement on a BOC mailing list with Albert on it > is, um.... Well BOC should have disbanded after Al AND Joe were gone. As great as Al is, I think the band could have made a go of things without him, even though they've missed his songwriting immeasurably. But when Joe left, BOC became an instant nostalgia act, I'm afraid... theo From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Thu Feb 1 09:08:19 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (Bryan Young) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:08:19 -0600 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: Greetings to the group, and hope all are doing well. I've got a new link almost ready to be unveiled, and was hoping to get some feedback on how it looks. My old monitor doesn't display 16 million colors, so I'm not sure if the color-coding scheme I've chosed is legible. Here's the link: http://www.geocities.com/hawklord1999/lsdbootlegs.html (And a few people I've traded with will find artwork for the discs I've sent them here) Anyways, the grand opening is coming *soon*, and will include signups for a new tree - the complete 6 cd set of the Hawkestra event in Brixton! The Hawkwind gig is 3 cdrs, and there are additional cdrs for Tim Blake's set, Bedouin's set, and Simon House's gig. Thanks for looking, Bryan Young Saskatchewan, Canada From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Feb 1 09:02:41 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:02:41 EST Subject: OFF:VDGG Box Message-ID: In a message dated 1/31/2001 9:08:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM writes: << >> Van Der Graff Box?? Any details? Bill Stewart From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Feb 1 09:15:30 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:15:30 -0000 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: > I've got a new link almost ready to be unveiled, and was hoping to get some > feedback on how it looks. My old monitor doesn't display 16 million colors, > so I'm not sure if the color-coding scheme I've chosed is legible. Aaaarrrggghhh!!! Lose the background image - the blue links - particularly the dark blue - are illegible. Cheers, Rich. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From iainferguson at CS.COM Thu Feb 1 09:18:23 2001 From: iainferguson at CS.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:18:23 +0000 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: Bryan, I've visted the Web site and it looks good to me. the only thing is that the darker Blue that you have used on some text is a little hard to see. that said I am colour blind . I have never seen hawkwind bootlegs available and i am very interested in joining the tree. I take it that its 1 person copies a couple passes it down, though people in turn do a couple and pass them down and so on. How do I join. I am a manic hawkwind supporter the only bootleg i have is the live at the bottom line vinyl. So if i am required to upload stuff i dont have anything. If you could let me know how i join and participate in this I would be truely grateful. Apart from the Hawkesta CDr's I would love to get hold of the Bristol space banditary one as I was present at both. Love to hear from you regards iain Bryan Young wrote: > Greetings to the group, and hope all are doing well. > > I've got a new link almost ready to be unveiled, and was hoping to get some > feedback on how it looks. My old monitor doesn't display 16 million colors, > so I'm not sure if the color-coding scheme I've chosed is legible. > > Here's the link: > http://www.geocities.com/hawklord1999/lsdbootlegs.html > (And a few people I've traded with will find artwork for the discs I've sent > them here) > > Anyways, the grand opening is coming *soon*, and will include signups for a > new tree - the complete 6 cd set of the Hawkestra event in Brixton! The > Hawkwind gig is 3 cdrs, and there are additional cdrs for Tim Blake's set, > Bedouin's set, and Simon House's gig. > > Thanks for looking, > > Bryan Young > Saskatchewan, Canada From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Feb 1 09:34:54 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:34:54 -0000 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba In-Reply-To: <004901c08c58$6e8b2f80$1f65a58e@jowill> Message-ID: Hmm, I see the "Dragonhead" boot has one of my photos on the front, uncredited of course. Now I know what it feels like to be bootlegged... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Feb 1 09:58:49 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:58:49 -0000 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: Hi bryan The website looks very good. Get an internal internet explorer script error when i first view the page though. Maybe i should switch to netscape? The colour coding sceme just has two colours on my monitor royal blue and light blue. But apart from that you have come up with a brilliant idea and i for one am very gratifull for the all the time and hard work that your putting into this project. cheers colm ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,??? ?`????,??,????` ICQ: 62753543 ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,??? ?`????,??,????` NP: ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,??? ?`????,??,????` -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Young To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 01 February 2001 13:55 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba >Greetings to the group, and hope all are doing well. > >I've got a new link almost ready to be unveiled, and was hoping to get some >feedback on how it looks. My old monitor doesn't display 16 million colors, >so I'm not sure if the color-coding scheme I've chosed is legible. > >Here's the link: >http://www.geocities.com/hawklord1999/lsdbootlegs.html >(And a few people I've traded with will find artwork for the discs I've sent >them here) > >Anyways, the grand opening is coming *soon*, and will include signups for a >new tree - the complete 6 cd set of the Hawkestra event in Brixton! The >Hawkwind gig is 3 cdrs, and there are additional cdrs for Tim Blake's set, >Bedouin's set, and Simon House's gig. > >Thanks for looking, > >Bryan Young >Saskatchewan, Canada > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Feb 1 11:13:38 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:13:38 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote In-Reply-To: <000a01c08c2d$89b60bc0$b4d0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: => Would desigining a poster of a band that you revere muchos grande => then circulating said poster (at no charge) be considered....... => => (a) Undermining the bands ability to make an income in the poster => department => => (b) promote the band greatly as well as possibly generate more => interest for the band => => (c) a very naughty thing to do => => (d) ask me later when I'm sober/not quite so stoned I would say (b), especially if a band were to cite (a) and then not actually put out any posters themselves. (Seems like bands that are not taper-friendly always complain that live tapes "stifle" the market for live recording, yet never seem to have plans to put out good, high-quality live recordings to "tap that market".) But, I could also see that (c) would apply, as it is always better to check first than be hassled later, especially if you want to promote or maintain good relations with the band. I choose (d). ;-) Cheers, Paul. NP: 12th Annual Xmas Jam, Thomas Wolfe Auditorium, Asheville, NC, 2000-12-21 e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Feb 1 11:15:48 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:15:48 -0600 Subject: OFF: Gordon Dickson Message-ID: Hey folks, For those sf fans in the audience, Gordon R. Dickson, author of lots of stuff, but best known for the Dorsai books, died yesterday. sigh. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Feb 1 11:25:09 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:25:09 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote In-Reply-To: <000a01c08c2d$89b60bc0$b4d0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: :Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote : :Hi there people : :Feel like a vote : :Try this one : :Would desigining a poster of a band that you revere muchos grande then circulating said poster (at no charge) be considered....... : :(a) Undermining the bands ability to make an income in the poster department : :(b) promote the band greatly as well as possibly generate more interest for the band : :(c) a very naughty thing to do : :(d) ask me later when I'm sober/not quite so stoned : I vote b, but only with the band's permission. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Feb 1 11:39:29 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 16:39:29 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote Message-ID: Arin Komins wrote: > I vote b, but only with the band's permission. and, I assume, artwork approval prior to distribution. Imagine the can of worms that would be opened if the poster infringed any copyright. The band/management could end up getting dragged through the courts through no fault of their own. Keef From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Feb 1 11:52:05 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:52:05 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote Message-ID: B Michael W Blackman wrote: > Hi there people > > > > Feel like a vote > > > > Try this one > > > > Would desigining a poster of a band that you revere muchos grande then > circulating said poster (at no charge) be considered....... > > > > (a) Undermining the bands ability to make an income in the poster > department > > > > (b) promote the band greatly as well as possibly generate more > interest for the band > > > > (c) a very naughty thing to do > > > > (d) ask me later when I'm sober/not quite so stoned > > > > curious > > > > Michael B > -- "Man can learn nothing except by going from the known to the unknown." - Claude Bernard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Feb 1 12:05:16 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:05:16 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote In-Reply-To: <3A799141.8F2AB228@cinesite.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Keith Barton wrote: => Arin Komins wrote: => => > I vote b, but only with the band's permission. => => and, I assume, artwork approval prior to distribution. => => Imagine the can of worms that would be opened if the poster => infringed any copyright. => => The band/management could end up getting dragged through the => courts through no fault of their own. I don't see how someone distributing his or her own "fan art" could cause a band to become liable for that fan art. If a band says "we don't mind people making posters for their own noncommercial edification" and a person happens to include some copyrighted material in his or her endeavour in that regard, why would the band be liable for that person's breaking the law? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From CultJacket at AOL.COM Thu Feb 1 12:53:16 2001 From: CultJacket at AOL.COM (Chris Martin) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:53:16 -0500 Subject: Santa Cruz Set List Message-ID: 1-31-01 Santa Cruz CA Here it is, Courtesy of BOCFANBOB and BramwellC: E.T.I. Dancing On Stilts The Vigil Bucks Boogie Joan Crawford Cities On Flame Burnin For You Eye Of The Hurricaine Teen Archer Unknown Tongue This Aint The Summer Of Love Veteran Of The Psychic Wars Godzilla Dont Fear The Reaper Domminance And Submission From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Feb 1 12:54:30 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:54:30 EST Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: In a message dated 2/1/01 8:55:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM writes: > Here's the link: > http://www.geocities.com/hawklord1999/lsdbootlegs.html > (And a few people I've traded with will find artwork for the discs I've sent > them here) > Hi Bryan, Looks great. I think a few other people mentioned the color clash of the text with the bg. Are you going to differentiate the actual pirate and/or "bootleg" from the fan generated cdr's? I say this because common usage of the word bootleg often implies mass produced/distributed illegal copies made for profit (responders/detractors, please don't quote the dictionary definition, I know what it is). The fan generated cdr's (like the old days of cassettes) are often one-off runs for friends etc and should be kept separate in some way from the real "boots". I guess the other reason I ask this is because I hate using the term "bootleg" for a cassette tape that's sitting in my closet, that wasn't purchased and will never be sold (by me at least) and I think needs to be segregated from the illegal recordings. Unofficial or unauthorized is more appropriate...anyone agree/disagree? bob From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Feb 1 13:02:03 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:02:03 -0500 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba In-Reply-To: <6e.76009f9.27aafcd6@aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Bob Lennon wrote: => I guess the other reason I ask this is because I hate using the term => "bootleg" for a cassette tape that's sitting in my closet, that wasn't => purchased and will never be sold (by me at least) and I think needs to be => segregated from the illegal recordings. Unofficial or unauthorized is more => appropriate...anyone agree/disagree? I agree. The term "bootleg" has a negative connotation, and often carries a knee-jerk reaction and unwelcome attention and scrutiny when it is used. Personally, I prefer simply "live recording". Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Feb 1 13:18:59 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:18:59 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 1/27/01 Message-ID: ...Currently KUCR is NOT airing on the web, for some strange reason. I'm sure we'll see this rectified soon. MAJOR :(( !!!! Meanwhile, I hope these play-lists will be of some interest anyway. If not, remember to e-mail me if you're sick of reading this shit... SDNC will of course continue to air from 5-7pm PST every Saturday on KUCR, and I will continue the occasional late-night (anywhere from 1-6am Sun mornings) "free-for-all layering freak-outs", for anyone reading who may be w/in regular-radio listening distance (yeah, right)... thanks, Chuck (I will never stop fighting...not until I get tired, anyway) 1/27/01 1.The Shalabi Effect: "Wyoming" (ST'd) 2.Bablicon: "An Orange Moon" (The Orange Tapered Moon) 3.Silver Apples: "Misty Mountain" (ST'd) 4.Tuxedo Moon: "Waterfront Seat" (Subterranean Modern comp) 5.Census of Hallucinations: "The Selfishness of the Thatcher Years" (The 3rd Eye) 6.Dave Brock/Hawkwind: "The Dream part 1/Assassination" (Weird Tapes Vol. I) 7.Nik Turner: "My Armour is Killing Me" (Prophets of Time) 8.Melting Euphoria: "Celestial Hysteria" (Inside the Gardens of the Mind) 9.Japancakes: "Allah Rakha" (If I Could See Dallas) 10.Neutral Milk Hotel: "Oh, Comely" (In the Aeroplane Over the Sea) 11.Pink Floyd: "Matilda Mother" (Piper at the Gates of Dawn) 12.Avey Tare and Panda Bear: "Alvin Row" (Spirit They're Gone Spirit They've Vanished) 13.Schema: "Echolalia...Curvilinear" (ST'd) 14.Thirteenth Floor Elevators: "Never Another" (Bull of the Woods) 15.Malcolm Mooney and the Tenth Planet: "Ol' Ship 2" (ST'd) 16.Tangerine Dream--title track (Alpha Centauri) What VDGG box? What am I missing here? Tracklist anybody? Captain Bl at ck ----- Original Message ----- From: Sara Zaza To: Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 9:05 PM Subject: OFF:VDGG Box > David Hall opined: > > I thought so also, easily worth it for the 1st disc alone. > > John Stanton From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Feb 1 13:38:45 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:38:45 -0000 Subject: HW: bootleg page Message-ID: Hi Bryan/Hi Andy As anyone who was on the list last July will know we made the original Dragonhead limited edition CDR sets - these were limited to 10 original copies with full artwork, including picture discs but we ensured that we only used our own original artwork which is NOT what is on the site, so looks like we have both been "legged"!!! Bryan, nice site though, keep up the good work. Cerberus ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: 01 February 2001 14:34 Subject: Re: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba > Hmm, I see the "Dragonhead" boot has one of my photos on the front, > uncredited of course. Now I know what it feels like to be bootlegged... > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 1 13:57:01 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:57:01 -0500 Subject: OFF: Help with Crohinga/PT? Message-ID: Hi Folks... Are there any subscribers/regular buyers of Crohinga Well and Ptolemaic Terrascope that can help me out? I'm looking for reviews/articles written about releases on the Penner/Garden of Delights record label in Germany...old krautrock stuff for the most part. I have Crohinga Well #14 (1998), where there is a lengthy review of some GoD releases, and they refer back to issue #13 (which I don't have) that has the beginning of the label overview. I don't have any issues since that one, but I imagine they've written more about more recent releases on the label. In Ptolemaic Terrascope #22 (1997), there's a couple paragraphs of stuff about Penner/GoD, and that seems to be the first time the label is mentioned in this 'zine. Does anyone have all the newer issues that can be searched through to find anything else written about GoD? At http://www.aural-innovations.com/god/main.html, there is a list of all the releases on the label if you want to search by album title for reviews and such. Whoever can send me xerox copies of the CW#13 review and some of the other stuff from these two 'zines (assuming there *is* more stuff) will receive my spare copy of Expose #13, that has articles about Hawkwind and interviews with Dave Brock and Simon House separately. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 1 14:15:57 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:15:57 -0500 Subject: OFF: Space Generation? Message-ID: Hi there... Has anybody ever heard of a band called Space Generation? It seems they were from Florida (?), and put out an album called 'Atomic Shelter' in c. 1982. I've just seen it categorized as 'space rock'. I was just wondering if it was one of those 'lost gems' from the '80s that fell through the cracks because of it being the center of the black hole of interesting music. :) Or whether it's useless crap. Atomic Shelter is also apparently the name of a strange political-activist band from Yugoslavia, or whatever that part of Yugoslavia is called this week. I was intrigued by what I read about them, though I couldn't get a sense of what their music is like. Grakkl (FAA) From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Feb 1 14:19:18 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:19:18 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: > On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Keith Barton wrote: > > => Arin Komins wrote: > => > => > I vote b, but only with the band's permission. > => > => and, I assume, artwork approval prior to distribution. > => > => Imagine the can of worms that would be opened if the poster > => infringed any copyright. > => > => The band/management could end up getting dragged through the > => courts through no fault of their own. > > I don't see how someone distributing his or her own "fan art" could > cause a band to become liable for that fan art. If a band says "we > don't mind people making posters for their own noncommercial > edification" and a person happens to include some copyrighted material > in his or her endeavour in that regard, why would the band be liable for > that person's breaking the law? You're correct, assuming the the artwork is for 'personal use' but what would happen if the posters were freely distributed in a public place but with the intention of financial gain, i.e. flyposting runs with the intention of promoting a concert? Sure, we've all seen loads of flyers etc, of this type, usually featuring unsigned local bands, but I'd like to bet that the legal goalposts would move if someone produced (albeit with the best of intentions) promotional goods for a major band which infringred copyright. Sorry if I'm going off on a tangent but I bet this has happened in the past e.g. bootleg T-shirt sellers outside gigs - copyright is there for a very good reason. Hawkwind has probably had more fan art than any other band, some of which the band has approved and used for album artwork etc, (the recent T-shirt competition springs to mind) and then of course there's Trevor's Hawkfrendz, Brian's Hawkfan and Adrian's Hawkeye - all of which, in my opinion, have played an important part of the whole Hawkwind spirit for years - and long may it continue. B gets my vote anyway! Keef From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Feb 1 14:52:10 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:52:10 -0500 Subject: OFF: Stonehenge model Message-ID: Hi Gang! Found this while browsing through a catalog! "accurately scaled archeological model" http://www.designtoscano.com/catalog/prod_12434.html From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Thu Feb 1 15:04:16 2001 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:04:16 +0000 Subject: HW Croydon Message-ID: Howdy folks, Just thinking about ordering my tickets for the Croydon show, and remembered a couple of posts on the list lamenting the venue for this. It's all seated right? Is it a bit of a duff place overall? Please don't tell me it's (horror of horrors) the sorta place where people sit down while watching the band? Horrible security? It's just that it's gonna cost me a fair few quid to see this show, and the thought of it being a disappointment due to the venue is making me wary (though I very much doubt I'll be able to resist the temptation to go no matter what!). Ah but never mind, after 15-odd (very) years of looking I finally got a copy of The Maximum Effect by !CU on lovely vinyl... yee-ha!! Dave From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 1 14:04:15 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:04:15 EDT Subject: OFF: Stonehenge model In-Reply-To: <200102011952.OAA02460@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 1 Feb 01, at 14:52, Karen Kusic wrote: > Hi Gang! > > Found this while browsing through a catalog! > > "accurately scaled archeological model" > > http://www.designtoscano.com/catalog/prod_12434.html 'We've got a Stonehenge monument that's in danger of being crushed by dwarves...I'm sure you think that's funny, but from where I'm standing, I don't find it the least bit amusing...' theo From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Feb 1 15:15:26 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:15:26 -0500 Subject: OFF: Stonehenge model Message-ID: Good job with the Spinal Tap quote! Loved it. More ST quotes here: http://us.imdb.com/Quotes?0088258 On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:04:15 EDT, Ted Jackson jr. wrote: >On 1 Feb 01, at 14:52, Karen Kusic wrote: > >> Hi Gang! >> >> Found this while browsing through a catalog! >> >> "accurately scaled archeological model" >> >> http://www.designtoscano.com/catalog/prod_12434.html > >'We've got a Stonehenge monument that's in danger of being crushed >by dwarves...I'm sure you think that's funny, but from where I'm >standing, I don't find it the least bit amusing...' > >theo From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Feb 1 15:16:05 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:16:05 -0000 Subject: HW: Croydon In-Reply-To: <20010201200416.E7C3D17B3B@amersham.mail.uk.easynet.net> Message-ID: Last time Hawkwind were there, everybody was on their feet down at the front, and the venue were really relaxed about it. -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK > Sent: 01 February 2001 20:04 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW Croydon > > > Howdy folks, > Just thinking about ordering my tickets for the Croydon show, > and remembered a couple of posts on the list lamenting the venue for this. > It's all seated right? Is it a bit of a duff place overall? Please don't > tell me it's (horror of horrors) the sorta place where people sit > down while > watching the band? Horrible security? It's just that it's > gonna cost me a > fair few quid to see this show, and the thought of it being a > disappointment > due to the venue is making me wary (though I very much doubt I'll > be able to > resist the temptation to go no matter what!). > Ah but never mind, after 15-odd (very) years of looking I finally > got a copy > of The Maximum Effect by !CU on lovely vinyl... yee-ha!! > > Dave > > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Feb 1 15:26:36 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:26:36 -0600 Subject: HW: Croydon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: :> Howdy folks, :> Just thinking about ordering my tickets for the Croydon show, :> and remembered a couple of posts on the list lamenting the venue for this. :> It's all seated right? Is it a bit of a duff place overall? Please don't :> tell me it's (horror of horrors) the sorta place where people sit :> down while :> watching the band? Horrible security? It's just that it's [snip] Just putting in my 2 cents here. I frequently like sitting at shows, primarily for two reasons: 1) Length of Show -- I just can't stand for long periods of time anymore without my feet bitching at me. 2) Vision -- I stand a whopping 4'11" high. At the average show, unless I've managed to be supremely lucky, I don't get to see at all unless everyone else is sitting, or I've scarfed one of the seats in the balcony (if available.) It sucks to be short. That said, a good venue, imho, should have both a standing area, and a sitting area (with the sitting area preferably high enough to see), to please everyone ;-) Not like this matters in any way, I'm just avoiding doing real work at the moment ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Thu Feb 1 15:40:55 2001 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 07:40:55 +1100 Subject: HW: Triple J Radio Tonight at 10:00 pm Eastern Australian time Message-ID: I *knew* I should have read my mail last night :-/ S. On 1 Feb 2001, at 16:02, Bill & Cynthia wrote: > For the aussies (and everyone else :-) ) > > On radio tonight at 10:00 pm EST, Triple J will be airing a three hour > Stoner Rock session which will include: Hawkwind, Kyuss, Black > Sabbath, Rollerball, Fu Manchu, Blue Cheer and Monster Magnet - plus > the current aussie scene. > > www.abc.net.au/triplej/jfiles will get you there > > Cheers > Bill > > From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Thu Feb 1 15:42:51 2001 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:42:51 +0000 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: >Just putting in my 2 cents here. I frequently like sitting at shows, >primarily for two reasons: Wasn't putting anyone down that likes sitting... only thinking of myself (my-self, think only of myself etc) ;) Your 2cents dully noted though. >It sucks to be short. I started going to gigs when I was 11, so have experienced being both short and tall(ish). Of the two, being short does indeed suck. :) Dave From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Feb 1 15:55:29 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:55:29 -0000 Subject: HW: Poster Message-ID: Noticed That: www.pushposters.co.uk Actually have Hawkwind Posters - Described as Angel (L) - theres a piccy too. Rich From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Feb 1 15:49:42 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:49:42 -0600 Subject: HW: Croydon In-Reply-To: <20010201204251.55293177E1@amersham.mail.uk.easynet.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: Croydon : :Wasn't putting anyone down that likes sitting... only :thinking of myself (my-self, think only of myself etc) ;) :Your 2cents dully noted though. :-) :>It sucks to be short. : :I started going to gigs when I was 11, so have experienced being both short :and tall(ish). Of the two, being short does indeed suck. :) It's a tall world out there. phooey. ;-) Arin (overtall hobbit) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Feb 1 16:02:28 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:02:28 -0000 Subject: HW: Croydon + Ozrics Message-ID: I used to go out with a girl who was 4ft 8, but that still isn't going to get me any nearer that Hawkwind Gig at Croydon. No Holidays Left ....doh. Ozrics are touring in May if anyones interested, theyre playing Whitley Bay on Saturday 19th(No other dates yet) Rich OBCD: Whirl-y-Waves Vol 2 From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Feb 1 16:24:00 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:24:00 -0600 Subject: HW: Poster In-Reply-To: <001401c08c91$4faf29c0$377479d5@a> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Rich Warren wrote: :Subject: HW: Poster : :Noticed That: : :www.pushposters.co.uk : :Actually have Hawkwind Posters - Described as Angel (L) - theres a piccy :too. That's the Peter Pracownik poster from the Astoria, isn't it? Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Feb 1 16:33:38 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:33:38 -0000 Subject: Real Audio to Wav ???? Message-ID: Does anyone out there know any software that can convert real audio files to wav files??? thanks colm ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,??? ?`????,??,????` ICQ: 62753543 ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,??? ?`????,??,????` NP: ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,??? ?`????,??,????` From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Feb 1 17:06:12 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:06:12 -0000 Subject: HW: Poster Message-ID: On reflection it certainly looks like the same poster. Rich From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 1 17:34:48 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 06:34:48 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote Message-ID: I'm with Arin on this one. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 12:25 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind : take a vote > On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: > > :Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote > : > :Hi there people > : > :Feel like a vote > : > :Try this one > : > :Would desigining a poster of a band that you revere muchos grande then circulating said poster (at no charge) be considered....... > : > :(a) Undermining the bands ability to make an income in the poster department > : > :(b) promote the band greatly as well as possibly generate more interest for the band > : > :(c) a very naughty thing to do > : > :(d) ask me later when I'm sober/not quite so stoned > : > > I vote b, but only with the band's permission. > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Thu Feb 1 17:32:03 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:32:03 -0000 Subject: Real Audio to Wav ???? In-Reply-To: <006701c08c96$a8e46fa0$b16a883e@bedroomt> Message-ID: It's called RA2WAV ... and it costs. Sorry, no url available. Alasdair On 1 Feb 01, at 21:33, bedroom trancer wrote: > Does anyone out there know any software that can convert real audio files to > wav files??? -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Feb 1 17:39:16 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:39:16 -0000 Subject: The time of the hawklords bbok Message-ID: Having recently purchased the hawkwind cd "astounding sounds, amazing music" in the longbox form i have now found myself with 2 copies of "the time of the hawklords" by michael butterworth. One i bought a while back and the other i got in the long box. Seeing that i don't really need both copies i just wondererd if anyone out there would be interested trading something for my old copy? Mail me off list if your interested. BTW i say old but its in quite good condition. cheers colm ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,??? ?`????,??,????` ICQ: 62753543 ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,??? ?`????,??,????` NP: ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,??? ?`????,??,????` From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Feb 1 17:49:15 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:49:15 -0000 Subject: Real Audio to Wav ???? Message-ID: thanks i tried the demo version of that but it annoying puts a robotic vocal over the files you convert :-( colm > It's called RA2WAV ... and it costs. Sorry, no url available. > > Alasdair > > On 1 Feb 01, at 21:33, bedroom trancer wrote: > > > Does anyone out there know any software that can convert real audio files to > > wav files??? > > -- > Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 > Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com > > alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 1 19:04:31 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:04:31 EST Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote Message-ID: In a message dated 2/1/01 4:00:07 AM US Eastern Standard Time, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > Feel like a vote > > Try this one > > Would desigining a poster of a band that you revere muchos grande then > circulating said poster (at no charge) be considered....... > > (a) Undermining the bands ability to make an income in the poster department > > > (b) promote the band greatly as well as possibly generate more interest for > the band > > (c) a very naughty thing to do > > (d) ask me later when I'm sober/not quite so stoned > > curious > > Michael B > > > > I would go for B. I mean, as long as one doesn't "design" a poster that the band already designed, I don't see a problem. Posters made and distributed by the fans are posters that the band doesn't have to pay for. PS I thoughtd of answering D, but thed D key keeps modving aroundd on my keyddbord d. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Feb 1 19:27:31 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:27:31 EST Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote Message-ID: In a message dated 2/1/01 4:06:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM writes: > In a message dated 2/1/01 4:00:07 AM US Eastern Standard Time, > michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > > > > Feel like a vote > > > > Try this one > > > > Would desigining a poster of a band that you revere muchos grande then > > circulating said poster (at no charge) be considered....... > > > > (a) Undermining the bands ability to make an income in the poster > department > > > > > > (b) promote the band greatly as well as possibly generate more interest > for > > the band > > > > (c) a very naughty thing to do > > > > (d) ask me later when I'm sober/not quite so stoned > > > > curious > > > > Michael B this is a no-brainer. when fans go to their own effort & expense to produce something for the cause, there are no negatives associated with it. Although it's only courtesy to at least inform the band of your plans, I guess the only way you could cause harm would be to directly compete with identical merchandise that will lose value if you give it away for nothing. This subject goes to the heart of that "family" feeling or being one of the space brothers & sisters on the Hawkwind mothership, folks distributing at shows, works of art that come from the soul. At the Strange Daze Festivals, there were countless examples of good unselfish people giving of themselves. I'm standing on the runway.... bob Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Thu Feb 1 19:35:53 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:35:53 +0000 Subject: OFF: Gordon Dickson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 10.15 -0600 1.2.2001, Arin Komins wrote: >For those sf fans in the audience, Gordon R. Dickson, author >of lots of stuff, but best known for the Dorsai books, died >yesterday. Bummer. He wrote some good ones. Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Thu Feb 1 22:11:56 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (Bryan Young) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:11:56 -0600 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: Cool, I don't really know where some of this stuff comes from, so it's basically an impossible task to credit everything. But I can certainly use an image editor and put your name on the cover art I have, if you'd like. Not sure if that's a good thing, putting a name on a bootleg item, but it can be done. But just one question -- is it the naked pictures of Naomi Campbell that you shot, or the other image on the front cover of Nik in costume? :) Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu Date: Thursday, February 01, 2001 8:35 AM Subject: Re: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba >Hmm, I see the "Dragonhead" boot has one of my photos on the front, >uncredited of course. Now I know what it feels like to be bootlegged... > >-- Andy > >www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Feb 2 04:31:55 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:31:55 -0000 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba In-Reply-To: <000601c08cc5$ea973d40$b973a58e@jowill> Message-ID: Nah, don't worry, I was being ironic... it was the Nik photo they usedon the cover (see www.andygilham.com/gwyl.htm). -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Bryan Young > Sent: 02 February 2001 03:12 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba > > > Cool, I don't really know where some of this stuff comes from, so it's > basically an impossible task to credit everything. But I can > certainly use > an image editor and put your name on the cover art I have, if you'd like. > Not sure if that's a good thing, putting a name on a bootleg item, but it > can be done. > > But just one question -- is it the naked pictures of Naomi > Campbell that you > shot, or the other image on the front cover of Nik in costume? > > :) > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Gilham > To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu > Date: Thursday, February 01, 2001 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba > > > >Hmm, I see the "Dragonhead" boot has one of my photos on the front, > >uncredited of course. Now I know what it feels like to be bootlegged... > > > >-- Andy > > > >www.andygilham.com > > From iainferguson at CS.COM Fri Feb 2 04:41:22 2001 From: iainferguson at CS.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:41:22 +0000 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: I'm 5foot 2 and dont give a damn. If a tall person is infront of me at a gig ( i get them to move , else stand infront of them . if it means i get to the front well cool, if not i'm happy. The fact is, if you are short like myself, i find tall people most accomodating, if not I set my 5foot penis on them, that usually does the trick. Love and peace ( with a little rude banter) iain gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK wrote: > >Just putting in my 2 cents here. I frequently like sitting at shows, > >primarily for two reasons: > > Wasn't putting anyone down that likes sitting... only > thinking of myself (my-self, think only of myself etc) ;) > Your 2cents dully noted though. > > >It sucks to be short. > > I started going to gigs when I was 11, so have experienced being both short > and tall(ish). Of the two, being short does indeed suck. :) > > Dave From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Fri Feb 2 05:10:55 2001 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:10:55 +0000 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: > Hmm, I see the "Dragonhead" boot has one of my photos on the front, > uncredited of course. Now I know what it feels like to be bootlegged... Are you the one without the bra on? M at xine Multimedia Programmer Media Development Centre University of Portsmouth ext 3187 http://alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk/~mxw/ Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Feb 2 05:28:42 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:28:42 -0000 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Cheeky! ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Maxine Wesley > Sent: 02 February 2001 10:11 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba > > > > Hmm, I see the "Dragonhead" boot has one of my photos on the front, > > uncredited of course. Now I know what it feels like to be bootlegged... > > Are you the one without the bra on? > > M at xine > > > Multimedia Programmer > Media Development Centre > University of Portsmouth > ext 3187 > http://alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk/~mxw/ > Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. > > From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Fri Feb 2 05:34:09 2001 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:34:09 +0000 Subject: HW: Croydon Message-ID: I've found Brixton Academy one of the best venues for the vertically challenged as the 'stalls'/arena area slopes gently to the front. Punk music gigs are generally good for short people as you get to see the band every 2nd beat at least ...boing! Iain - I would definately rather you were standing in front since you are smaller than I am (166.37cm) (and that is the only reason, honest guv) ... M at xine Date sent: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:41:22 +0000 From: iain ferguson Subject: Re: HW: Croydon > I'm 5foot 2 and dont give a damn. If a tall person is infront of me at a gig ( > i get them to move , else stand infront of them . if it means i get to the > front well cool, if not i'm happy. > > The fact is, if you are short like myself, i find tall people most > accomodating, if not I set my 5foot penis on them, that usually does the trick. > > Love and peace ( with a little rude banter) > > iain From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Fri Feb 2 07:52:00 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 07:52:00 -0500 Subject: HW: family tree tracklist Message-ID: Nick Medford wrote: > >np: Roger Waters, "In The Flesh" > > Is this worth getting? I saw one of the shows in the States last year. To be > honest I only went 'cos I was in San Antonio for a few days and purely by > chance discovered RW was playing there, and as a lapsed fan of the old > Floyd stuff I thought there were probably worse ways to spend an evening in > a foreign city. (Also, I'd always been curious to see a big American stadium > show, although the arena wasn't *that* big as it turned out). Anyway I > thought the show was excellent, exceeded my expectations, but whether it > would work without the visuals (i.e. as a live album) I don't know. What say > you? Well, the visuals were very nice, but, yes, it does work as a live album. There's a couple of editing tricks; e.g., the opening song of the second set is the last song on the first disc and the explanation for "Each Small Candle" is missing, but the sound is quite good and the walls will shake if your stereo is up to it. (-8 Over on the Pink Floyd list, they're in the process of offerring audience recordings from every show on the 1999 and 2000 tours. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Feb 2 08:10:09 2001 From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juba N) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:10:09 -0000 Subject: OFF: Help with Crohinga/PT? Message-ID: Hi! I have those magazines. If you?d like I can take a look if there is anything there about P/GoD stuff. Juba >From: Keith Henderson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: OFF: Help with Crohinga/PT? >Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:57:01 -0500 > >Hi Folks... > >Are there any subscribers/regular buyers of Crohinga Well and Ptolemaic >Terrascope that can help me out? > >I'm looking for reviews/articles written about releases on the >Penner/Garden >of Delights record label in Germany...old krautrock stuff for the most >part. > >I have Crohinga Well #14 (1998), where there is a lengthy review of some >GoD releases, and they refer back to issue #13 (which I don't have) that >has >the beginning of the label overview. I don't have any issues since that >one, but I imagine they've written more about more recent releases on the >label. > >In Ptolemaic Terrascope #22 (1997), there's a couple paragraphs of stuff >about Penner/GoD, and that seems to be the first time the label is >mentioned >in this 'zine. Does anyone have all the newer issues that can be searched >through to find anything else written about GoD? > >At http://www.aural-innovations.com/god/main.html, there is a list of all >the releases on the label if you want to search by album title for reviews >and such. > >Whoever can send me xerox copies of the CW#13 review and some of the other >stuff from these two 'zines (assuming there *is* more stuff) will receive >my >spare copy of Expose #13, that has articles about Hawkwind and interviews >with Dave Brock and Simon House separately. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 1 22:59:29 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 14:29:29 +1030 Subject: Hawkwind : take a vote Message-ID: heh heh I'm pleased you found the other keys thanks everybody I did do a little old poster but mailed it to Dave & Kris yesterday - They can do whatever they wan't with it - :) That previous Astoria poster had the OK tho ... Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Loehr To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind : take a vote In a message dated 2/1/01 4:00:07 AM US Eastern Standard Time, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: Feel like a vote Try this one Would desigining a poster of a band that you revere muchos grande then circulating said poster (at no charge) be considered....... (a) Undermining the bands ability to make an income in the poster department (b) promote the band greatly as well as possibly generate more interest for the band (c) a very naughty thing to do (d) ask me later when I'm sober/not quite so stoned curious Michael B I would go for B. I mean, as long as one doesn't "design" a poster that the band already designed, I don't see a problem. Posters made and distributed by the fans are posters that the band doesn't have to pay for. PS I thoughtd of answering D, but thed D key keeps modving aroundd on my keyddbord d. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Feb 2 09:12:02 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:12:02 -0500 Subject: BOC: Santa Cruz Set List In-Reply-To: <200102011753.MAA01594@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Chris Martin wrote: > 1-31-01 Santa Cruz CA > > Here it is, Courtesy of BOCFANBOB and BramwellC: [...] > Eye Of The Hurricaine I think I remember someone here saying this was an Eric tune with an AC/DC-like riff. Does anyone have more details about this one? Brian From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Fri Feb 2 10:36:18 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:36:18 -0500 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: > On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Bob Lennon wrote: > > => I guess the other reason I ask this is because I hate using the term > => "bootleg" for a cassette tape that's sitting in my closet, that wasn't > => purchased and will never be sold (by me at least) and I think needs to be > => segregated from the illegal recordings. Unofficial or unauthorized is more > => appropriate...anyone agree/disagree? > > I agree. The term "bootleg" has a negative connotation, and often > carries a knee-jerk reaction and unwelcome attention and scrutiny when > it is used. > > Personally, I prefer simply "live recording". Over on the Pink Floyd list they call them ROIOs: Recording Of Indeterminate Origin. Sometimes pronounced as "Oreo". John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 2 16:38:13 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 21:38:13 +0000 Subject: Andy calling direct (server gone up the creek) (fwd) Message-ID: Passed on by request... Yours, Jon ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 00:02:20 -0000 From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Andy calling direct (server gone up the creek) Hi Jon - no, you've not touched any nerve as I'm the most laid-back person around, but I love a good dialogue about things like this as I feel it's (a)entertaining and (b) always throws up points that maybe other people reading it never thought about and may even agree with - a lot of your replies on this are very good and thanks for that - but I'd still love to hear what you think of the Starfield. You see at CDS I welcome as much input of opinion from the customers about albums they are buying - just because we do what we do, doesn't mean we can't learn from the punters. It's all about respect and trust. Out now for five days on an important personal mission - see y'all next week, Andy Garibaldi P.S. Simon House new CD arrived yesterday but vinyl already sold out so more next week, no doubt. PASS THIS ON TO BOC-L if you can - havinfg server problems like Keith and all my BOC-L e.mails are just coming right back at me. I will try and get it sorted next week. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Feb 2 17:14:15 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:14:15 +0000 Subject: BOC: Santa Cruz Set List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Chris Martin wrote: >[...] > Eye Of The Hurricaine Presumably a different track than "Konya wa hurricane"? :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Fri Feb 2 17:16:11 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:16:11 +0000 Subject: Andy calling direct (server gone up the creek) (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Passed on by request... Yours, >From: ANDREW GARIBALDI > >Out now for five days on an important personal mission - see y'all next >week, >PASS THIS ON TO BOC-L if you can - havinfg server problems like >Keith and all my BOC-L e.mails are just coming right back at me. I >will try and get it sorted next week. Well, that explains why my attempts buy stuff from CDS have gotten nowhere! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 2 17:41:36 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:41:36 +0000 Subject: H/W: More obscure Hawkwind relations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Sebastian Welton wrote: > For real completists only. There is a very, and I mean very, distant > link to Hawkwind and the Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band via Dave Brock. I > believe that prior to playing with the Dharma Blues Band and after being > a busker, the esteemed Mr. Brock had a stint playing in Bob Kerr's > Whoopee Band (who are still going strong BTW) and Bob Kerr was an early > member of the Bonzo's (or was it that some members of the Bonzos were in > the Whoopee band?) That could then lead real completists right off onto > another path!!! Or you can go Calvert -(_Captain Lockheed_)- Viv Stanshall - Bonzo Dog Doodha Band and get there in two steps. But the long connection strings are always better :-) The above refers, for those who don't know, to the fact that Stanshall was one of the actors on the album. Speaking of which, a freidn of mine found a remaster copy of that just lately. Still on BGO, but wearing the remaster sticker that Castle and their puppet Essential use. Are BGO part of Castle now? If so, can we expect remastered Man? Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Fri Feb 2 18:02:55 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:02:55 -0500 Subject: Sloterdijk news: Message-ID: Just wanted to inform people that the "Integration" CD is now being distributed by Swamproom Records, Germany at: www.swamproom.de There are other great titles there by bands such as: Simeon and the Alchemysts, Adrian Shaw ( Bevis Frond), Hawkwind, Liquid Visions, Mandragora Light Society and many more. Sloterdijk is a new addition to their catalog, and may not yet appear on the titles offered list, but the CD is indeed available there. Secondly, I want to inform you of an upcoming gig which is awaiting final confirmation. The show will tentatively take place at "The Boat Race" http://www.boat-race.co.uk/index.html> , in Cambridge, England, U.K. within the first two weeks of March. Tentative lineup will be: Bedouin (Alan Davey of Hawkwind) ; still awaiting confirmation Woronzow ( Adrian Shaw of Hawkwind, Bevis Frond etc) Not sure if they remain on the schedule at this point. Sloterdijk ( U.K. debut show) Dr. Hasbeen The Alchemysts Now, I am still awaiting word from the Cambridge Rock Society regarding the particulars, and confirmation of this show, but I hope to know a bit more soon. It's really not that far away, so I wanted to be able to at least let the rumor of the show, seep into your collective consciousness. It's possible that YOU might be able to help the rock society's implementation of this gig, by dropping them a note of support, or letting them know that you might be attending at: chiark at greenend.org.uk We need all the support we can get, to make this event a success, once it's off the ground. At this point, it should not be long before a decision and date are finalized. Peace, Mike Burro (Sloterdijk) P.S. Remember this gig is still not confirmed!!! and is still subject to rescheduling, and/or cancellation P.P.S. If anyone can get Alan Davey by telephone or any other way, please tell him that his confirmation or his passing on the date(s) is very much needed in order to tie up the loose ends..If you want Bedouin at the event, help us to get Alan in touch with the Rock Society!!!! www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Feb 2 18:06:57 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:06:57 -0500 Subject: Real Audio to Wav ???? In-Reply-To: <200102012232.WAA11309@avalon.netcom.net.uk>; from alimac@NETCOMUK.CO.UK on Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 10:32:03PM -0000 Message-ID: TotalRecorder also costs, but not much, and you can use it for other things too ... like recording net-radio stuff that asprecorder won't touch. Or http://www.rawavrecorder.homestead.com/ -- never used it, but might be worth a try. On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 10:32:03PM -0000, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > It's called RA2WAV ... and it costs. Sorry, no url available. > > Alasdair > > On 1 Feb 01, at 21:33, bedroom trancer wrote: > > > Does anyone out there know any software that can convert real audio files to > > wav files??? > > -- > Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 > Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com > > alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: Is there anything in astrology? Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm naturally skeptical. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 2 18:16:22 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 23:16:22 +0000 Subject: Sloterdijk news: In-Reply-To: <23677-3A7B3C9F-93@storefull-115.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Message-ID: Mike, some of this needs some word from me I feel... On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, SLOTERDIJK wrote: > Secondly, > I want to inform you of an upcoming gig which is awaiting final > confirmation. > > The show will tentatively take place at "The Boat Race" > http://www.boat-race.co.uk/index.html> , in Cambridge, England, U.K. > within the first two weeks of March. > > Tentative lineup will be: > > Bedouin (Alan Davey of Hawkwind) ; still awaiting confirmation > > Woronzow ( Adrian Shaw of Hawkwind, Bevis Frond etc) Not sure if they > remain on the schedule at this point. The Woronzow band i question is The Alchemysts, which doesn't feature Adrian (or indeed Nick Saloman). Should make that clear at the risk of disappointing people. > Sloterdijk ( U.K. debut show) > > Dr. Hasbeen > > The Alchemysts See above. > Now, I am still awaiting word from the Cambridge Rock Society regarding > the particulars, and confirmation of this show, but I hope to know a > bit more soon. It's really not that far away, so I wanted to be able to > at least let the rumor of the show, seep into your collective > consciousness. Indeed, if this comes off it will be great but we can't yet say it will. > It's possible that YOU might be able to help the rock society's > implementation of this gig, by dropping them a note of support, or > letting them know that you might be attending at: > chiark at greenend.org.uk Now this is the problem. I mean, the e-mail address you give there is incorrect, but it's not up to us at the moment. What *will* help is if anyone on list knows Alan Davey's phone number they can ring him and ask him for all the gods' sake to ring us before we lose our booking on the dates; when Bedouin say whether they can or can't come we can sort the rest almost instantly, but at the moment if they don't confirm one way or the other we'll lose our booking because of waiting. The Society itself has its hands tied at the moment and contacting them will do nothing. > We need all the support we can get, to make this event a success, once > it's off the ground. > At this point, it should not be long before a decision and date are > finalized. > P.P.S. If anyone can get Alan Davey by telephone or any other way, > please tell him that his confirmation or his passing on the date(s) is > very much needed in order to tie up the loose ends..If you want Bedouin > at the event, help us to get Alan in touch with the Rock Society!!!! Thassit. It needs Alan to make one phonecall, then we have a lineup and hopefully a gig. Yours, Jon ObCD: Krel - _Ad Astra_ -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From coral at APORT.RU Fri Feb 2 18:31:12 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 02:31:12 +0300 Subject: Real Audio to Wav ???? Message-ID: There's a good converter Streambox Ripper available on www.streambox.com. Alissa From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Feb 2 19:37:27 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:37:27 +0000 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba In-Reply-To: <3A7AD3F2.BCBFB98E@pa.msu.edu> Message-ID: In message <3A7AD3F2.BCBFB98E at pa.msu.edu>, John McIntyre writes >Over on the Pink Floyd list they call them ROIOs: Recording Of Indeterminate >Origin. I wondered what that stood for. I saw it when I subscribed to alt.music.pink- floyd, but I was only there for one day, during which I received about 450 messages, hardly any of which were related to Floyd- mostly various saddoes slagging each other off- and I immediately unsubscribed. Has it improved? -- Nick Medford From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Feb 2 21:04:59 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 19:04:59 -0700 Subject: Andy calling direct (server gone up the creek) (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Andy has said (I paraphrase) "Get this CD" to which I add "Get this CD now. No, really. Do it. Now." KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Jon Jarrett Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 2:38 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Andy calling direct (server gone up the creek) (fwd) Passed on by request... Yours, Jon ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 00:02:20 -0000 From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Subject: Andy calling direct (server gone up the creek) .... but I'd still love to hear what you think of the Starfield. ..... Out now for five days on an important personal mission - see y'all next week, Andy Garibaldi From CultJacket at AOL.COM Fri Feb 2 22:11:25 2001 From: CultJacket at AOL.COM (Chris Martin) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:11:25 -0500 Subject: Portland Set List 2-1-01 Message-ID: Quicklime Girl B?C Fanatic posted 02-02-2001 01:10 AM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The set: 1) ETI 2) Dance on Stilts 3) The Vigil (!!!) 4) Buck's Boogie 5) Joan Crawford 6) Cities on Flame... 7) Burnin' 8) Harvester of Eyes 9) Now is the time (the old gods return) 10) Subhuman 11) Before the kiss.... 12) Astronomy 13) Zilla 14) Intro/Reaper Encores ME262 Dom&Sub From CultJacket at AOL.COM Fri Feb 2 22:21:42 2001 From: CultJacket at AOL.COM (Chris Martin) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:21:42 EST Subject: BOC: Santa Cruz Set List Message-ID: Brian, If I knew you didnt have Hurricane id have thrown it on your tape. Well its a headbanger tune. Pretty menacing vocals Lots of rather strange parts to the song.Its been changed a bit 3 times ( made longer) Each time.The song takes a different twist from heavy guitar to soft parts at unexpected times.Kinda back and forth ( recent version). especially on the ending. The latest being lots of effect that Buck does on the guitar to simulate storm sounds. The song has been played live with Allen on keys and EB doing the Rhythm Guitar,and played with no keys and AL doing Rhythm and EB melody chourds,with AL and BD trading leads.....Not sure what version will turn out for the CD. AC/DC is a good comparision as its a rather simple song,but it rocks From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sat Feb 3 05:33:37 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 10:33:37 +0000 Subject: Sloterdijk news: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 23.16 +0000 2.2.2001, Jon Jarrett wrote: > Mike, > some of this needs some word from me I feel... >On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, SLOTERDIJK wrote: >> Secondly, >> I want to inform you of an upcoming gig which is awaiting final >> confirmation. >> >> The show will tentatively take place at "The Boat Race" >> http://www.boat-race.co.uk/index.html> , in Cambridge, England, U.K. >> within the first two weeks of March. >> >> Tentative lineup will be: >> >> Bedouin (Alan Davey of Hawkwind) ; still awaiting confirmation My understanding was that because it took Bedouin so long to get back to RockSoc that the early March slots _might_ be gone, and we'd have to try to lever them in on anther date. But this was as of several days ago, so it might well be deprecated info by now! >> Woronzow ( Adrian Shaw of Hawkwind, Bevis Frond etc) Not sure if they >> remain on the schedule at this point. > > The Woronzow band i question is The Alchemysts, which doesn't >feature Adrian (or indeed Nick Saloman). Should make that clear at the >risk of disappointing people. Though the Alchemysts do indeed rock. >> Sloterdijk ( U.K. debut show) >> >> Dr. Hasbeen Hey, much coolness! This would be a gig to kill for :) >> Now, I am still awaiting word from the Cambridge Rock Society regarding >> the particulars, and confirmation of this show, but I hope to know a >> bit more soon. It's really not that far away, so I wanted to be able to >> at least let the rumor of the show, seep into your collective >> consciousness. > > Indeed, if this comes off it will be great but we can't yet say it >will. True. >> It's possible that YOU might be able to help the rock society's >> implementation of this gig, by dropping them a note of support, or >> letting them know that you might be attending at: >> chiark at greenend.org.uk > > Now this is the problem. I mean, the e-mail address you give there >is incorrect, but it's not up to us at the moment. What *will* help is if >anyone on list knows Alan Davey's phone number they can ring him and ask >him for all the gods' sake to ring us before we lose our booking on the >dates; when Bedouin say whether they can or can't come we can sort the >rest almost instantly, but at the moment if they don't confirm one way or >the other we'll lose our booking because of waiting. Yup. > The Society itself has its hands tied at the moment and contacting >them will do nothing. Believe me, the Society's spacerock fan contingent (not an inconsiderable faction) is doing all it can in any case. Besides, many in the Society have seen Bedouin in Cambridge before, and know that they kick arse. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat Feb 3 06:47:33 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:47:33 +0100 Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! Message-ID: Hi folks I need some help with the 1991 May US tour (with Dave, Alan and Richard) Here are the dates I know TOWN: HALL: DATE: New York Marquee 09.May.1991 Philadelphia Ambler 10.May.1991 Asbury Park Fast Lane 11.May.1991 Washington 9:30 Club 12.May.1991 Montreal LeFoufones 14.May.1991 Ottawa Barrymores 15.May.1991 Toronto Spectrum 16.May.1991 St.Catherines Hideaway 17.May.1991 Detroit Latin Quarter 18.May.1991 Cleveland Empire 19.May.1991 Minneapolis First Avenue 21.May.1991 Milwaukee Shank Hall 22.May.1991 Chicago Cabaret Metro 23.May.1991 But now I have received a tape labelled as TONAPAH, AZ. It is NOT identical with the 11 tapes I have from the tour !! But it is indeed from this tour!! Is someone out there who knows if HAWKWIND played some more gigs before the NEW YORK one and after the CHICAGO one ??? Thanks Bernhard From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sat Feb 3 07:12:02 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:12:02 +0000 Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! In-Reply-To: <200102031148.MAA01455@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: At 12.47 +0100 3.2.2001, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: >Is someone out there who knows if HAWKWIND played some more gigs before the >NEW YORK one and after the CHICAGO one ??? I'm certain there was a Cambridge, MA gig. I wasn't, not having heard any Hawkwind until I joined the list in 1992 :) but I had a friend who went. I suspect this gig took place before the NY gig. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat Feb 3 07:36:06 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:36:06 +0100 Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi At 12:12 03.02.2001 +0000, you wrote: >At 12.47 +0100 3.2.2001, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: >>Is someone out there who knows if HAWKWIND played some more gigs before the >>NEW YORK one and after the CHICAGO one ??? > >I'm certain there was a Cambridge, MA gig. I wasn't, not having heard >any Hawkwind until I joined the list in 1992 :) but I had a friend >who went. I suspect this gig took place before the NY gig. Thanks for this info Carl ! Bernhard From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sat Feb 3 08:15:21 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:15:21 +0000 Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! In-Reply-To: <200102031236.NAA02758@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: >At 12:12 03.02.2001 +0000, you wrote: >>At 12.47 +0100 3.2.2001, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: >>>Is someone out there who knows if HAWKWIND played some more gigs before the >>>NEW YORK one and after the CHICAGO one ??? >> >>I'm certain there was a Cambridge, MA gig. I wasn't there, not having heard >>any Hawkwind until I joined the list in 1992 :) but I had a friend >>who went. I suspect this gig took place before the NY gig. > >Thanks for this info Carl ! Actually, you should check that this gig wasn't in a 1990 tour or something. But I definitely remember my friend saying he had just seen Hawkwind, which he described as a "British science-fiction band from the 70s" :) It was while I was at university but before I knew much about Hawkwind, so 1991 sounds right. The gig he went to was at Johnny D's in Davis Square, Cambridge MA. Cheer, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 3 08:43:07 2001 From: Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:43:07 -0000 Subject: Golden Void San Diego In-Reply-To: <200102031148.MAA01455@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: Good Afternoon All I have downloaded a version of my all time fave song via napster it is a very recent version by the sounds of it Does anyone know when it was recorded ? I also got Time for Sale live 76 my life is now complete Thanks Brian From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Feb 3 08:57:45 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:57:45 EST Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! Message-ID: In a message dated 2/3/01 3:48:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE writes: > Philadelphia Ambler 10.May.1991 sorry to be in constant correction mode for this one (for 10 years now, guess I've failed miserably) but the may 1991 show is not in Philadelphia, it is in a town called Ambler, at the Ambler Cabaret. Ambler is a small xtian town in the suburbs of Philadelphia and is not a part of philadelphia. The Ambler Caberet was a tiny pub for local bands on main street, and us locals were shocked as smeg that they even played there. apologies again for being such a bore about one little detail. I figured the completist/perfectionists out there would want this clarified. bob Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From micci at SCI.FI Sat Feb 3 09:09:03 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:09:03 +0200 Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! Message-ID: 26.May Wigan Rugby Ground? Taken from Collector?s Guide book. >Hi folks > >I need some help with the 1991 May US tour (with Dave, Alan and Richard) > >Here are the dates I know > >TOWN: HALL: DATE: >New York Marquee 09.May.1991 >Philadelphia Ambler 10.May.1991 >Asbury Park Fast Lane 11.May.1991 >Washington 9:30 Club 12.May.1991 >Montreal LeFoufones 14.May.1991 >Ottawa Barrymores 15.May.1991 >Toronto Spectrum 16.May.1991 >St.Catherines Hideaway 17.May.1991 >Detroit Latin Quarter 18.May.1991 >Cleveland Empire 19.May.1991 >Minneapolis First Avenue 21.May.1991 >Milwaukee Shank Hall 22.May.1991 >Chicago Cabaret Metro 23.May.1991 > >But now I have received a tape labelled as TONAPAH, AZ. >It is NOT identical with the 11 tapes I have from the tour !! >But it is indeed from this tour!! > >Is someone out there who knows if HAWKWIND played some more gigs before the >NEW YORK one and after the CHICAGO one ??? > >Thanks >Bernhard > Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat Feb 3 09:25:44 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:25:44 +0100 Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! In-Reply-To: <200102031409.f13E93C10445@kauha.saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: Hi Miikka At 16:09 03.02.2001 +0200, you wrote: >26.May Wigan Rugby Ground? > >Taken from Collector?s Guide book. Thats a festival in the UK which never happened Bernhard From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat Feb 3 09:29:17 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:29:17 +0100 Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Carl At 13:15 03.02.2001 +0000, you wrote: >Actually, you should check that this gig wasn't in a 1990 tour or >something. But I definitely remember my friend saying he had just >seen Hawkwind, which he described as a "British science-fiction band >from the 70s" :) It was while I was at university but before I knew >much about Hawkwind, so 1991 sounds right. The gig he went to was at >Johnny D's in Davis Square, Cambridge MA. The gig you are talking about was in 1989 Here is the exact date and venue Somerville, Johnny D's, 27 September 1989 Am I right ? Bernhard From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat Feb 3 09:32:36 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:32:36 +0100 Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! In-Reply-To: <96.f9488b0.27ad6859@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Bob At 08:57 03.02.2001 -0500, you wrote: >> Philadelphia Ambler 10.May.1991 > >sorry to be in constant correction mode for this one (for 10 years now, guess >I've failed miserably) but the may 1991 show is not in Philadelphia, it is in >a town called Ambler, at the Ambler Cabaret. Ambler is a small xtian town in >the suburbs of Philadelphia and is not a part of philadelphia. The Ambler >Caberet was a tiny pub for local bands on main street, and us locals were >shocked as smeg that they even played there. >apologies again for being such a bore about one little detail. >I figured the completist/perfectionists out there would want this clarified. Thanks Bob I suppose that the gig on 30 November 1990 was in the same town/venue ? Bernhard From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Feb 3 10:13:48 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 10:13:48 EST Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! Message-ID: In a message dated 2/3/01 9:33:33 AM, bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE writes: << Here is the exact date and venue Somerville, Johnny D's, 27 September 1989 Am I right ? Bernhard >> ====== yeah... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Feb 3 10:23:14 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 10:23:14 EST Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! Message-ID: In a message dated 2/3/01 6:48:37 AM, bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE writes: << Is someone out there who knows if HAWKWIND played some more gigs before the NEW YORK one and after the CHICAGO one ??? ==== the NY gig began the tour in may '91....mr. brock had a spot of trouble being allowed into the states; custom searches went so far as to [mess] up his guitar, checking inside of it through the 'patchcord hole'... das ludicroix's ian souther was the guitar tech on that tour; i handed him an empty container of potato salad, and he would fashion a 'replacement part', and mr. brock was able to play that guitar that night. . ..am pretty sure that wasnt the only gtr he played on the tour, but you know what they say 'necessity' is.... "<>" From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sat Feb 3 11:23:28 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 10:23:28 -0600 Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! In-Reply-To: <96.f9488b0.27ad6859@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Bob Lennon wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! : :In a message dated 2/3/01 3:48:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, :bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE writes: : :> Philadelphia Ambler 10.May.1991 : :sorry to be in constant correction mode for this one (for 10 years now, guess :I've failed miserably) but the may 1991 show is not in Philadelphia, it is in :a town called Ambler, at the Ambler Cabaret. Ambler is a small xtian town in :the suburbs of Philadelphia and is not a part of philadelphia. The Ambler :Caberet was a tiny pub for local bands on main street, and us locals were :shocked as smeg that they even played there. :apologies again for being such a bore about one little detail. :I figured the completist/perfectionists out there would want this clarified. i concur, having been at that show ;-) Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat Feb 3 11:04:54 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 17:04:54 +0100 Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! In-Reply-To: <97.10bbd020.27ad7c62@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi At 10:23 03.02.2001 -0500, you wrote: >the NY gig began the tour in may '91... Thanks for this important info Larry ! Bernhard From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Sat Feb 3 11:56:59 2001 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:56:59 -0500 Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! In-Reply-To: <200102031433.PAA05920@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: Bernhard, Yes it is. I was at both. ;) Shared a pizza with Richard C. at a place next door to the venue in '90 (well, actually he was stuffed and invited me to dig in after I said hello ;). He is one hell of a great guy. Dave At 03:32 PM 2/3/01 +0100, you wrote: >Hi Bob > >At 08:57 03.02.2001 -0500, you wrote: >>> Philadelphia Ambler 10.May.1991 >> >>sorry to be in constant correction mode for this one (for 10 years now, guess >>I've failed miserably) but the may 1991 show is not in Philadelphia, it is in >>a town called Ambler, at the Ambler Cabaret. Ambler is a small xtian town in >>the suburbs of Philadelphia and is not a part of philadelphia. The Ambler >>Caberet was a tiny pub for local bands on main street, and us locals were >>shocked as smeg that they even played there. >>apologies again for being such a bore about one little detail. >>I figured the completist/perfectionists out there would want this clarified. > > >Thanks Bob > >I suppose that the gig on 30 November 1990 was in the same town/venue ? > > >Bernhard From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sat Feb 3 12:22:40 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 17:22:40 +0000 Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! In-Reply-To: <200102031433.PAA05917@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: At 15.29 +0100 3.2.2001, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: >The gig you are talking about was in 1989 >Here is the exact date and venue >Somerville, Johnny D's, 27 September 1989 >Am I right ? Judging by Larry's comments, I guess so! It must have been _really_ early in my college career. I didn't know I knew the guy that went to the gig that early :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Feb 3 13:24:44 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:24:44 +0000 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Nick Medford writes >>Over on the Pink Floyd list they call them ROIOs: Recording Of Indeterminate >>Origin. > >I wondered what that stood for. I thought it was Recordings of Illegitimate Origin -- Jon From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sat Feb 3 14:02:16 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:02:16 -0000 Subject: Paradogs Message-ID: Picked up the paradogs cd for ?5.00 pounds in MR CD on berwick street today. Didn't see anymore copies in there but it might be worth paying the shop a visit next time any of you are down in oxford street. Oh yeah selectadisc have robert calverts "hype" on cd for ?3.99. Also got my phillips cd-r mp3 player today. colm ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????` ICQ: 62753543 ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????` NP: ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????` -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Sat Feb 3 14:55:19 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:55:19 -0600 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: How about a LUDD? (A live, unauthorized, distributed, disc) Then anybody who trades Hawkwind boots could be called a Luddite! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 6:37 PM Subject: Re: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba > In message <3A7AD3F2.BCBFB98E at pa.msu.edu>, John McIntyre > writes > >Over on the Pink Floyd list they call them ROIOs: Recording Of Indeterminate > >Origin. > > I wondered what that stood for. I saw it when I subscribed to alt.music.pink- > floyd, but I was only there for one day, during which I received about 450 > messages, hardly any of which were related to Floyd- mostly various saddoes > slagging each other off- and I immediately unsubscribed. Has it improved? > > -- > Nick Medford From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Feb 3 16:09:40 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:09:40 -0500 Subject: OFF: ISO Mike Coleman Message-ID: Hey, What the heck happened to Mike Coleman? If anyone is in touch w/ him..... Please have him contact me. Thanx!! Darrin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK Sat Feb 3 16:54:58 2001 From: g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK (g.m.wright) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:54:58 -0000 Subject: What a day!! Message-ID: Hi Lisa, hope you don't mind me posting a replying to your email to the news group, but I thought if I was going to post the name& phone no. of this shop i might as well do it just the once. The shop is Circular Sound & you can speak to Martin on 01603 630130 Cheers Geoff geoff wright g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Halfacre To: g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk Date: 30 January 2001 21:15 Subject: What a day!! >Hi, > >I'm really interested in the shop you know but live miles & miles away. >Any chance you could let me know the name and telephone number so I could >make a few enquiries? > >Thanks > >Lisa > From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sat Feb 3 17:46:34 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:46:34 -0000 Subject: Real Audio to Wav ???? Message-ID: thanks for all the advice people have given me on converting real audio files to .wav. I have finally tracked down a copy of stream box ripper the though i must say the site (www.streambox.com) doesn't have it for download anymore. cheers colm ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,??? ?`????,??,????` ICQ: 62753543 ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,??? ?`????,??,????` NP: ????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,????`????,??,??? ?`????,??,????` ----- Original Message ----- From: Alissa To: Sent: 02 February 2001 23:31 Subject: Re: Real Audio to Wav ???? > There's a good converter Streambox Ripper available on www.streambox.com. > > Alissa > From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Feb 3 18:10:23 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:10:23 EST Subject: HW: 1991 May US tour. Help needed !!! Message-ID: In a message dated 2/3/01 6:33:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE writes: > > Thanks Bob > > I suppose that the gig on 30 November 1990 was in the same town/venue ? > > > Bernhard HI Bernhard, Hawkwind did play in the same town/venue the year before. bob Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Feb 3 18:24:55 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:24:55 EST Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: How about this: on the back of the "Choose Your Masques" Lp there is a little blurb at the bottom left that says "Home Taping is Killing Music" why don't we call it "Home Taping"? or, with cdr's "Home burning" bob In a message dated 2/3/01 12:03:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM writes: > How about a LUDD? > > (A live, unauthorized, distributed, disc) > > Then anybody who trades Hawkwind boots could be called a Luddite! > > :) > Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Feb 3 22:41:31 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:11:31 +1030 Subject: OFF: ISO Mike Coleman Message-ID: I was wondering the same - not a word for ages? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrin McKeehen To: Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 7:39 AM Subject: OFF: ISO Mike Coleman > Hey, > > What the heck happened to Mike Coleman? > > If anyone is in touch w/ him..... > > Please have him contact me. > > Thanx!! > > Darrin > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From CultJacket at AOL.COM Sun Feb 4 03:31:01 2001 From: CultJacket at AOL.COM (Chris Martin) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 03:31:01 -0500 Subject: BOC Tacoma WA set list 2-2-01 Message-ID: 2/2/2001 this aint the summer of love dancin on stilts bucks boogie ETI burnin' for you teen archer eye of the hurricane joan crawford ME262 cities on flame last days of may harvester or eyes unknown tongue zilla reaper dominance and submission From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 4 07:50:03 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:50:03 -0000 Subject: OFF:VDGG Box Message-ID: I'm sure CD Services can oblige - some nice live stuff from 75 and previously unreleased BBC sessions.+ rare and not so rare. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Bill Stewart To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 01 February 2001 14:04 Subject: Re: OFF:VDGG Box >In a message dated 1/31/2001 9:08:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, >prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM writes: > ><< > >> >Van Der Graff Box?? Any details? > >Bill Stewart > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 4 08:11:20 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 13:11:20 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawkestra/Astoria Message-ID: Has anyone got these onto CDR yet? Any chance of a copy? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Feb 4 09:06:17 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:06:17 EST Subject: OFF: ISO Mike Coleman Message-ID: He is alive, and well, and living in Argentina In a message dated 2/3/01 7:40:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > I was wondering the same - not a word for ages? > > Mb > Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Feb 4 09:22:01 2001 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:22:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkestra/Astoria Message-ID: I've got a 3cdr from Brixton. e-mail me privately ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 2:11 PM Subject: HW: Hawkestra/Astoria Has anyone got these onto CDR yet? Any chance of a copy? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Sun Feb 4 11:32:12 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:32:12 -0600 Subject: HW: totalrock cdr chain Message-ID: As I mentioned before, I know have the 30 minute totalrock show on cdr. Those people who are interested and have the ability to burn a cdr can send me a private email. dan From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Sun Feb 4 13:35:26 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:35:26 -0600 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: I remember a Venom lp I had on vinyl years ago with the same phrase "Home Taping is Killing Music" and underneath that was written "So is Venom". I thought that was pretty funny at the time. If we really need acronyms, how about: UFO - unauthorized; fans only DRUG - digital recording unofficially generated FUR - fan's unofficial recordings (so we can find out who's anti-fur on this list) ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Lennon To: Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 5:24 PM Subject: Re: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba > How about this: on the back of the "Choose Your Masques" Lp there is a little > blurb at the bottom left that says "Home Taping is Killing Music" > why don't we call it "Home Taping"? > or, with cdr's "Home burning" > bob > > > In a message dated 2/3/01 12:03:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, > blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM writes: > > > How about a LUDD? > > > > (A live, unauthorized, distributed, disc) > > > > Then anybody who trades Hawkwind boots could be called a Luddite! > > > > :) > > > > > Hawkwind: Time & Space Website > http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Feb 4 14:02:03 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:02:03 EST Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: I LIke UFO and DRUG the best. bob In a message dated 2/4/01 10:36:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM writes: > I remember a Venom lp I had on vinyl years ago with the same phrase "Home > Taping is Killing Music" and underneath that was written "So is Venom". I > thought that was pretty funny at the time. > > If we really need acronyms, how about: > UFO - unauthorized; fans only > DRUG - digital recording unofficially generated > FUR - fan's unofficial recordings (so we can find out who's anti-fur on > this list) > Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sun Feb 4 14:17:40 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 13:17:40 -0600 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: > > > FUR - fan's unofficial recordings (so we can find out who's anti-fur on > > this list) > > Fur burgers are OK! From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 4 14:10:34 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:10:34 -0000 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: We go for DRUG & FUR, with DRUG having the edge ----- Original Message ----- From: BL Young To: Sent: 04 February 2001 18:35 Subject: Re: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba > I remember a Venom lp I had on vinyl years ago with the same phrase "Home > Taping is Killing Music" and underneath that was written "So is Venom". I > thought that was pretty funny at the time. > > If we really need acronyms, how about: > UFO - unauthorized; fans only > DRUG - digital recording unofficially generated > FUR - fan's unofficial recordings (so we can find out who's anti-fur on > this list) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Lennon > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 5:24 PM > Subject: Re: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba > > > > How about this: on the back of the "Choose Your Masques" Lp there is a > little > > blurb at the bottom left that says "Home Taping is Killing Music" > > why don't we call it "Home Taping"? > > or, with cdr's "Home burning" > > bob > > > > > > In a message dated 2/3/01 12:03:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM writes: > > > > > How about a LUDD? > > > > > > (A live, unauthorized, distributed, disc) > > > > > > Then anybody who trades Hawkwind boots could be called a Luddite! > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > Hawkwind: Time & Space Website > > http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html > From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Sun Feb 4 10:19:11 2001 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Sara Zaza) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:19:11 -0000 Subject: OFF:VDGG BOX/ATOMIC SHELTER Message-ID: Hi; A few folks asked about a track lising for the VDGG box, here 'tis: Disc 1 1. People You Were Going To Top Gear 18/11/68 2. Afterwards Top Gear 18/11/68 3. Necromancer Top Gear 18/11/68 4.Refugees BBC Peel Session 14/12/71 5. Darkness (11/11) BBC Top Gear 27/01/70 6. After The Flood BBC Top Gear 27/01/70 7. White Hammer 8. House With No Door 9. Killer 10. Lost (7-10 are the from the orig lps but remastered) Disc 2 11. Theme 1 BBC Black Session 10/06/71 12. W B-side 13. A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers Pawn Hearts version 14. (In The) Black Room/ The Tower 09/08/75 Rimini Italy live 15. Lemmings 09/08/75 Rimini Italy live 16. Man-Erg 09/08/75 Rimini Italy live Disc 3 17. La Rossa 18. Arrow (Edit) 19. My Room (Edit) 20. Sleepwalkers 21. Pilgrims 22. Childlike Faith In... (17-22 are lps versions remastered) 23. Scorched Earth 09/08/75 Rimini Italy live Disc 4 24. Masks 25. Meurglys III (Edit) 26. When She Comes 27. Wondering 28. Wave (24-29 are all the lp versions, remastered) 29. Cat's Eye/ Yellow Fever BBC Peel Session 24/10/77 30. Chemical World from Quiet Zone 31. Door 27/07/77 Virgin Vault 32. Sci-Finance >From "Vital' 33. Sphinx In The Face BBC Peel Session 24/10/77 Comes with a nice book, photos, anecdotes/remarks from everyone, gig listing, etc. Perhaps if there was enough interest, there could be a kind of Hammill/VDGG Collectors Club type of CD subscription service similar to what Robert Fripp offers for Crimson fans via Discipline Global for archival stuff that might not be for the casual fan.....hmmm..... Regarding a few people asking about Atomic Shelter, I thought the lp was fairly leaden generic metal, although there are a few synths now and then, but to call this lp "spacerock" (despite the title "Space Generation") would be deceptive at best. They are a Yugoslavian band, sing in English pretty uninspired stuff all in all. I have a copy of the lp available if anyone is interested, email me off list. Nice spacey/psych cover tho.... John Stanton From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sun Feb 4 16:17:15 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:17:15 -0000 Subject: OFF:VDGG BOX/ATOMIC SHELTER Message-ID: So the BBC session version of Killers and Lost aren't on there then (07/02/70)? These still exist I'm sure, I remember Alan Freeman playing them in 1989 (strong memory associated with that one, but I won't go into it...). Nor is Octopus (29/01/68) or Reawakening (07/09/69). And various others, according to my session list. Pity, I'd have bought it just for the first two. Captain Bl at ck ----- Original Message ----- From: Sara Zaza To: Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 3:19 PM Subject: OFF:VDGG BOX/ATOMIC SHELTER > Hi; > A few folks asked about a track lising for the VDGG box, here 'tis: > Disc 1 > 1. People You Were Going To > Top Gear 18/11/68 > 2. Afterwards > Top Gear 18/11/68 > 3. Necromancer > Top Gear 18/11/68 > 4.Refugees > BBC Peel Session 14/12/71 > 5. Darkness (11/11) > BBC Top Gear 27/01/70 > 6. After The Flood > BBC Top Gear 27/01/70 > 7. White Hammer > 8. House With No Door > 9. Killer > 10. Lost > (7-10 are the from the orig lps but remastered) > Disc 2 > 11. Theme 1 > BBC Black Session 10/06/71 > 12. W > B-side > 13. A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers > Pawn Hearts version > 14. (In The) Black Room/ The Tower > 09/08/75 Rimini Italy live > 15. Lemmings > 09/08/75 Rimini Italy live > 16. Man-Erg > 09/08/75 Rimini Italy live > Disc 3 > 17. La Rossa > 18. Arrow (Edit) > 19. My Room (Edit) > 20. Sleepwalkers > 21. Pilgrims > 22. Childlike Faith In... > (17-22 are lps versions remastered) > 23. Scorched Earth > 09/08/75 Rimini Italy live > Disc 4 > 24. Masks > 25. Meurglys III (Edit) > 26. When She Comes > 27. Wondering > 28. Wave > (24-29 are all the lp versions, remastered) > 29. Cat's Eye/ Yellow Fever > BBC Peel Session 24/10/77 > 30. Chemical World > from Quiet Zone > 31. Door > 27/07/77 Virgin Vault > 32. Sci-Finance > From "Vital' > 33. Sphinx In The Face > BBC Peel Session 24/10/77 > > Comes with a nice book, photos, anecdotes/remarks from everyone, gig > listing, etc. Perhaps if there was enough interest, there could be a kind of > Hammill/VDGG Collectors Club type of CD subscription service similar to what > Robert Fripp offers for Crimson fans via Discipline Global for archival > stuff that might not be for the casual fan.....hmmm..... > > Regarding a few people asking about Atomic Shelter, I thought the lp was > fairly leaden generic metal, although there are a few synths now and then, > but to call this lp "spacerock" (despite the title "Space Generation") would > be deceptive at best. They are a Yugoslavian band, sing in English pretty > uninspired stuff all in all. I have a copy of the lp available if anyone is > interested, email me off list. Nice spacey/psych cover tho.... > > John Stanton From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sun Feb 4 16:26:43 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:26:43 -0000 Subject: HW: Sessions Message-ID: Checking out the VDGG sessions reminded me that there is a number of Hawkwind ones which have yet to come to light: Source: Ken Garner's excellent 'In Session Tonight': 1. Top Gear 19/9/70: Hurry on Sundown/Seeing it As you Really Are/Some of That Stuff. 2. Top Gear 24/04/71: Inwards Out/Dreaming/You Shouldn't Do That. 3. Stuart Henry 27/05/71: Master of the Universe/Dreaming/You Shouldn't Do That. 4. Johnnie Walker 14/08/72: Silver Machine (network session - feat. 'Derek Dettmar') 5. Fri. Rock Show 02/08/85: Magnu-Dreamworker of Time/They've Got Your Number/Assault of the Hawk. 6. John Peel Sunday Concert -5/11/70 - At which a roadie stole a mic leading to the band being temporarily banned! Now, one would guess that the Henry session is on Text of Festival (and elsewhere), and possibly the Johnnie Walker one is from the Brian Mathews session (no mention of Brainstorm here, by the way). The Friday Rock show one is freely available on bootleg no doubt, but what of the others? Captain Bl at ck From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Feb 4 16:37:56 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:37:56 -0500 Subject: OFF:VDGG BOX/ATOMIC SHELTER Message-ID: John said... >Regarding a few people asking about Atomic Shelter, I thought the lp was >fairly leaden generic metal, although there are a few synths now and then, >but to call this lp "spacerock" (despite the title "Space Generation") would >be deceptive at best. They are a Yugoslavian band, sing in English pretty >uninspired stuff all in all. I have a copy of the lp available if anyone is >interested, email me off list. Nice spacey/psych cover tho.... Oh, OK, so there is no band from Florida then called "Space Generation". I found conflicting entries for this album, some attributing it to a band by that name (album called "Atomic Shelter"), and another attributing an album "Space Generation" by Atomic Shelter. When I then found a site for Atomic Shelter, the Yugo band, the discography there didn't list anything called "Space Generation," so I thought there must be two different bands. If you have this album, I guess that pretty much says it all. Thanks for clearing that up... Grakkl (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Feb 4 16:49:55 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:49:55 -0500 Subject: ADMIN: Hey, I'm back! Message-ID: Hi Folks... My last post from my normal e-mail link went through this time! Looks like Ohio State is off the ORBS shitlist for now! :) Hope everyone else gets back soon! Grakkl (FAA) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Feb 4 18:38:54 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:38:54 +0000 Subject: HW: Star Nation In-Reply-To: <001901c07455$bf2837a0$3111bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > As far as I am aware the band put a lot into this and are trying to recoup > that and also as much as they can to finance a full album, and despite the > prices they and CD Services were charging, I'm sure you can all sympathise > with this aim. Also they said it would be limited to 200 only and that > probably justifies it also. Musically, I love it, I have to say. > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Jarrett" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 1:46 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Star Nation > > > > [1] Just to ward off flames, I have done the sums, and though I don't know > > what CDS's cut was even if it was minuscule the income Jerry and Richard > > are getting from this probably doesn't cover a month of my rent each. I do > > appreciate that they're not raking it in, but that just raises the > > question in my mind, why didn't they make more? That mail wasn't meant to sound as if I was accusing CDS of profiteering! I was just trying to stress how even you'd taken a loss on it I didn't see how Richard and Jerry could have made very much. I'm quite prepared to believe they took a loss on it. I've played it enough now to come to an opinion now, and this is that it's very good. I think Hawkwind's attempts to "go techno" have been doomed quite often because they started with rock, and the rhythms aren't the same. Star Nation started with the techno rhythms and built space-rock and some of it's great and all of it's good. I particularly like the bit where `Coup Sticks' disintegrates into noise. I just don't think Jerry can sing very well, and I'm not sure about the quality of the words Steve Hayes got to read. But basically, yes, let there be more, there's a lot that can be done here and I look forward to it on the basis of what I profoundly hope is no more than a sample. Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Feb 4 18:39:12 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:39:12 +0000 Subject: OFF: Top 100 selling albums of 2000 In-Reply-To: <200012281919.OAA27461@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, K Henderson wrote: > Christ! Is it *this* bad? I've always told people who insist that my > musical tastes are just weird-'cause-I-like-to-be-weird that I do buy plenty > of highly popular stuff also. Perhaps I just can't say that anymore. Cause > I'm sure I bought about 100 new albums this year, and I didn't buy a single > one of these. In fact, there are plenty of albums here by familiar bands > that I have never heard of. Like Bon Jovi. He's really popular again? > You're kidding me, when did that happen? And I didn't even know about the > live Floyd album! Or Iron Maiden (they still exist?), or U2 and Metallica > for chrissakes! AC/DC too. And Pearl Jam (they still exist?). And > a-ha...c'mon, how the hell did they resurface?! No way! George Michael? > He's out of jail? :) Iron Maiden went through the usual "Oh no, someone oured blood on the ashes!" bit and have turned out what their fans tell me is a pretty good album. The Floyd album I only knew about because of a brief and masochistic stay on alt.music.roger-waters. Like alt.music-deep-purple, I learned one useful thing in the months I was subscribed and suddenly thought "Why! Why am I doing this to myself?" But if I hadn't been subscribed it would have escaped me too. I must say, I don't know *anyone* who's bought it. The U2 album isn't very good though. Which is a disappointment to me as so far everything they'd done had been quality as far as I was concerned and I had thought they were bankable. But no, it's just a not-bad pop album. > I bet that I have at least *one* of the top 100 from any other year from > 1968 up to the mid-90s at least. Anyway, is there *anybody* here who bought > any of this rubbish? Perhaps I'm not the only one, and popular music has > truly reached a nadir. That's certainly the conclusion I reach whenever I'm forced to listen to a radio. And Lemmy appears to agree with me so I don't let it bother me :-) > 13.U2, "All That You Can't Leave Behind" I got given it for Christmas, anyway. > 35.Radiohead, "Kid A" And that one is good, as we almost all agreed :-) > 86.Green Day, "Warning" And I *will* get this one as they started getting interesting last album rather than just fun. But basically, I'm staying well clear of anything that charts these days. Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 4 18:47:01 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 18:47:01 -0500 Subject: HW: Possible Dates Message-ID: Hawkwind may be playing the following dates: Aldershot April 1st Nottingham April 2nd Cabterbury Festival August ?? From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Sun Feb 4 18:52:43 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:52:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: Top 100 selling albums of 2000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, >The Floyd album I only knew about because of a brief and >masochistic stay on alt.music.roger-waters. Like alt.music-deep-purple, I >learned one useful thing in the months I was subscribed and suddenly >thought "Why! Why am I doing this to myself?" But if I hadn't been >subscribed it would have escaped me too. I must say, I don't know *anyone* >who's bought it. I bought it, even the "special limited edition". ;-) And it's rather good ("The Wall" live), except for some sound problems due to the old tapes. (c)IAO D+R From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Feb 4 19:13:50 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:13:50 +0000 Subject: HW: last few questions for the famous spin-offs file Message-ID: Dear All, just a few more, and then I'll stop, honest. But, can anyone riddle me the following (as I can't)? A - the guest spots file 1. Nik Turner is doing a track on a forthcoming Grand Funk Railroad tribute album - does anyone know what it will be? 2. Salt did an album featuring Huw called _Best of British Rock_ - does anyone know when it came out? 3. Lemmy, Slim Jim and whom? And what was it called? 4. Did Simon House come from Magic Muscle to Hawkwind or direct from High Tide? 5. Roni Size & Reprazent - does the new album feature Clive Deamer and if so what's it called? B. The full list-type file 1. Deviants, _Have Left the Planet_ - what are the names of the 1978 tracks which feature Alan Powell? 2. Tanz der Youth - what was the name of their single single? 3. Mazlyn Jones, Guy Evans, Nik Turner & Friends, S/T - what are the names of the tracks, and which ones are from '92 and which from '95? 4. Hawkwind, _Family Tree_ - what is the date of the HW trio track, `Only the Time Will Tell'? Is Liz Gizzard just Ron, or are any other members featured? Do we know? 5. _Thunderbolt: A Tribute to AC/DC_ - which track features Lemmy and under what name? 6. PXR1 - what is the name of the track on the vinyl version from _Elf & Hawk_ featuring Crum? 7. Christian Boule, _Photomuzik_ - what are the names of the tracks featuring Tim Blake? 8. Asphodel are recording an album featuring Huw, supposedly; is it out and what's it called? 9. Luther Grosvenor (as above) 10. Dark Sun (next album will supposedly feature Nik Turner - is there a title yet?) Thanks for any help. The results will be webbed as soon as I have what you can tell me loaded into the code :-) Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Feb 4 19:52:28 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:52:28 EST Subject: HW: last few questions for the famous spin-offs file Message-ID: In a message dated 2/4/01 7:14:40 PM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: << 4. Did Simon House come from Magic Muscle to Hawkwind or direct from High Tide? >> ====== um, no, but the brain cells arent cooperating; was it a short stint in ash ra temple? dunno, dunno, a similar sounding name? nnnggghhh "<>" From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sun Feb 4 20:08:45 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 01:08:45 -0000 Subject: HW: last few questions for the famous spin-offs file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > 1. Deviants, _Have Left the Planet_ - what are the names of the 1978 > tracks which feature Alan Powell? Only "Let's Loot the Supermarket Again (Like We Did Last Summer)," I think. >From the "Screwed Up" ep. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Feb 4 21:27:37 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:57:37 +1030 Subject: HW: Hawkestra/Astoria Message-ID: I managed to score a cassette of Hawkestra - may put it to cdr one of these fine days Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 11:41 PM Subject: HW: Hawkestra/Astoria Has anyone got these onto CDR yet? Any chance of a copy? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Mon Feb 5 03:24:56 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:24:56 +0000 Subject: HW: last few questions for the famous spin-offs file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 00.13 +0000 5.2.2001, Jon Jarrett wrote: >3. Lemmy, Slim Jim and whom? And what was it called? And who I dunno, since it's in the states (though the info is bound to be online), but I'm pretty sure it was self-titled. >10. Dark Sun (next album will supposedly feature Nik Turner - is there a >title yet?) This is something other than _Ice Ritual_? I've heard nary a rumor. I imagine the thing to do is ask Santtu ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Feb 5 05:23:08 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 05:23:08 -0500 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:10:34 -0000, Cerberus wrote: >We go for DRUG & FUR, with DRUG having the edge Does this mean that people will be offering to trade DRUGs here? :-) From m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK Mon Feb 5 05:44:44 2001 From: m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK (Merrick Martin French) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:44:44 +0000 Subject: hw: cd's wanted Message-ID: Dear all, I am looking for PXR5 and Quark, Strangeness and Charm on CD (joys of record replacement !!) second hand would be fine if anyone has seen copies please let me know. thanks love, light and peace. Merrick French From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 5 08:14:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:44:27 +1030 Subject: hawkwind Re The Electric Tepee Message-ID: Hey the electric tepee has just had a slight face lift - with more to come soon come on over n have a look!!! Michael Blackman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Feb 5 08:56:22 2001 From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juba N) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:56:22 -0000 Subject: HW: last few questions for the famous spin-offs file Message-ID: Hi! >1. Nik Turner is doing a track on a forthcoming Grand Funk Railroad >tribute album - does anyone know what it will be? Due to record companby tactics the song "Into The Sun" was left off the album. >4. Did Simon House come from Magic Muscle to Hawkwind or direct from High >Tide? He played with MM after HT. >>2. Tanz der Youth - what was the name of their single single? The song was called "Sorry,Sorry". _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Mon Feb 5 09:52:05 2001 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:52:05 -0500 Subject: Weird Tapes and other releases Message-ID: Hi, folks: Sorry to be late in getting news out. My wife and I have just brought home a brand new baby boy, William Wallace Davis, and that's made me a tad behind in a lot of things. As ususal you'll find the latest Artist Shop Newsletter in its entirety at . But here are some excerpts for Hawkwind/BOC fans. Recently released from Voiceprint Hawkwind/Weird Tapes The Weird Tapes were originally issued in the early 80's as very limited editions,on cassette only. They are now reissued on cd for the first time. Remastered, with stunning new artwork,credits and bonus tracks. Hawkwind Records is authorised and overseen by original founder member Dave Brock, to release rare and unissued recordings of the band. 1999 saw the band's profile increase with the EMI 3cd set and massive press interest. Hawkwind's anniversary celebrations continue with an All Nite ( 9 - 6 ) show at Brixton Academy on 21st October,with Motorhead playing the next day ! Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 1 ( Sonic Assassins - Dave Brock ) Tracks 1 to 5 were taken from a show at Queens Hall, Barnstaple, Devon. Recorded on 24th December 1977, featuring Bob Calvert on vocals. Track 7 was recorded at Rockfield studio in March 1979, Harvey Bainbridge is featured on bass. Dave Brock plays all instruments on the other tracks,which were laid down for a solo album. soundbite - Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 2 (Hawkwind Live - Hawklords Studio) The first five tracks are taken from the Spirit Of The Age Tour, recorded in 1977, including Bob Calvert, Simon King and Simon House in the line up. The final three tracks are from Rockfield studio, recorded in 1978 and credited to Hawklords. soundbite - Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 3 ( Free Festivals ) Tracks 1 to 5 were recorded at The Stonehenge Free Festival in 1977 with a line up that includes Bob Calvert, Simon House and Simon King. Tracks 6,7 and 8 were recorded at The Watchfield Free Festival in 1975 and include Paul Rudolph and Nik Turner in the line up. soundbite - Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 4 ( Live 1978 ) These tracks were recorded live in 1978. The line up includes Bob Calvert on vocals and generator, with Harvey Bainbridge on vocals and bass. Due to litigation, the band were recording and touring as The Hawklords. soundbite - Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 5 ( Live 1976 - 77 ) Tracks 1, 2 and 8 feature a line up that includes Bob Calvert, Nik Turner, Paul Rudolph and Simon King. These live tracks were recorded in 1976 at Hammersmith Odeon. The other live tracks were recorded in 1977, also at Hammersmith Odeon. Included in the line up are Bob Calvert, Simon House and Simon King. soundbite - Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 7 ( Dave Brock Demos ) All instruments and vocals are played by Dave Brock. They feature demo recordings of future Hawkind tracks and were recorded on Revox and 4 Track Teac, between 1976 and 1981. soundbite - Future releases from Voiceprint and associated labels (pre-order now) Hawkwind/Spacebrock This is the latest studio effort from those intergalactic space rockers with all new tracks and artwork specially commissioned and supervised by Dave Brock. The booklet features the words to each track with atmospheric pictures capturing the mood of this brilliant album. This is Hawkwind's finest album for years, and essential for fans of this well loved group. On our forthcoming imports page : MOTHER GONG/DAEVID ALLEN-WILD CHILD/AUSTRALIA AQUARIA (2CD) UK reissue of two highly acclaimed albums from the ever expanding Gong family tree in a special 2 CD set, showcasing thee talents of Daevid Allen and Gilli Smyth, the 1991 release, 'Australia Aquaria-She' and Mother Gong's 1991 release, 'Wild Child'. Featuring Robert Calvert on tenor and soprano sax, as well as long time collaborator Harry Williamson. Brand new artwork. And now let's get to information on the latest releases to be found at : BLUE OYSTER CULT-TYRANNY & MUTATION + SECRET TREATIES (2CD) Exclusive French coupling of their mythical albums presented in the infamous Axe Killer double leather digipaks. Both CDs have been remastered and feature bonus tracks. 'Tyranny & Mutation' adds 'Cities On Flame With Rock 'N' Roll' while 'Secret Treaties' adds, 'Stairway To The Stars'. Features a 28 page booklet with the bands biography, album lyrics and exclusive photos. MOTORHEAD-ACE OF SPADES 25th anniversary reissue for one of Britain's premier metal bands. Originally issued in 1980, their fifth album packaged in a limited edition miniature LP sleeve. MOTORHEAD-BOMBER 25th anniversary reissue for one of Britain's premier metal bands. Originally issued in 1979, their third album packaged in a limited edition miniature LP sleeve. MOTORHEAD-OVERKILL 25th anniversary reissue for one of Britain's premier metal bands. Originally issued in 1979, their second album packaged in a limited edition miniature LP sleeve. V/A-2001: A SPACE ROCK ODYSSEY (2CD) 31 track space rock compilation, an indirect celebration of the ultimate space-age acid trip movie, '2001 A Space Odyssey'. Artists include the kings of space rock-Hawkwind, the Welsh wonders of prog-Man, Uriah Heep, Atomic Rooster, Stray, CMU, Colosseum, Status Quo and many more. On a personal note, as you can imagine, I have to listen to just about every promo CD that comes in in order to select and make the soundbites for the website. More often than not, I enjoy that. But it's not always the case. Hawkwind has certainly put out a lot of what you might call 'official bootlegs' of iffy quality that has made for some rather tedious listening. And, to be honest, I did approach the Weird Tapes CD's with some trepidation. However, I have to say that I was delightfully surprised by the entire Weird Tapes series. I thought both the sound quality and the material were pretty good and I really enjoyed going over those CD's to pick the soundbites. These CD's will definitely get some more listens from me. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Feb 5 13:09:13 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:09:13 -0500 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond CD Reissues Message-ID: I saw this at http://www.rubricrecords.com/ , Woronzow's US distributor. >Bevis Frond Miasma CD Reissue TBA >Bevis Frond Inner Marshland CD Reissue TBA >Bevis Frond Tryptych CD Reissue TBA >Bevis Frond Bevis Through The Looking Glass CD Reissue TBA >Bevis Frond New River Head Double Expanded CD Reissue TBA >Bevis Frond London Stone CD Reissue TBA I don't know if these will be remastered, but having the complete New River Head in one package will be great on its own. Plus, I've held off on buying the vinyl Miasma and Tryptych (I did buy Inner Marshland), hoping they would get reissued on CD. And here they are! If Rubric follows through with its current pricing policy, each CD will be $14 post paid, with the double being $18. Brian NP> The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries of Mr. Quimby's Beard From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Feb 5 13:08:36 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:08:36 -0000 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: Nick wrote: >Does this mean that people will be offering to trade DRUGs here? Perhaps starting in the new financial year (UK) - April, in the meantime would you like to score some FUR? ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: 05 February 2001 10:23 Subject: Re: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba > On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:10:34 -0000, Cerberus > wrote: > > >We go for DRUG & FUR, with DRUG having the edge > > Does this mean that people will be offering to trade DRUGs here? > > :-) > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 5 13:58:05 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:58:05 GMT Subject: Anyone have Mike Wright's email address? Message-ID: ?? I seem to have lost it. FoFP From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Mon Feb 5 14:06:15 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:06:15 +0100 Subject: Anyone have Mike Wright's email address? In-Reply-To: <200102051858.SAA17801@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi, >I seem to have lost it. The last time I wrote him it was Hope that helps. (c)IAO D+R From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Mon Feb 5 14:28:04 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:28:04 -0000 Subject: OT: Space engineering? Message-ID: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1154000/1154784.stm --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Feb 5 15:39:41 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:39:41 -0000 Subject: HW: Releases Message-ID: Can someone please post up a list of all Hawkwind releases since Love In Space. Regards Tone The Hub -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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MWood >Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:09:13 -0500 >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >From: Brian Halligan >Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond CD Reissues >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >I saw this at http://www.rubricrecords.com/ , Woronzow's US distributor. > >>Bevis Frond Miasma CD Reissue TBA >>Bevis Frond Inner Marshland CD Reissue TBA >>Bevis Frond Tryptych CD Reissue TBA >>Bevis Frond Bevis Through The Looking Glass CD Reissue TBA >>Bevis Frond New River Head Double Expanded CD Reissue TBA >>Bevis Frond London Stone CD Reissue TBA > >I don't know if these will be remastered, but having the complete New River >Head in one package will be great on its own. Plus, I've held off on buying >the vinyl Miasma and Tryptych (I did buy Inner Marshland), hoping they would >get reissued on CD. And here they are! If Rubric follows through with its >current pricing policy, each CD will be $14 post paid, with the double being >$18. > >Brian >NP> The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries of Mr. Quimby's Beard ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Feb 5 16:27:45 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:27:45 -0500 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond CD Reissues In-Reply-To: <200102052059.MAA27641@mail1.bigmailbox.com> Message-ID: Marshall wrote: > Wow, this is great timing for me. I just picked up the "Acid > Jam 2" set, which is fantastic, and now I'd like to get some BF > proper. So, where should I start? The first three albums listed below, at least Inner Marshland and what I've heard from the others, are pretty raw sounding and they're more psychedelic and jam oriented that most of the later albums. My favorite is New River Head. Great tunes, musically diverse, well-produced. The songs on Acid Jam II that are credited to just Saloman are more typical of post-Tryptich Frond. The newest album, Valedictory Songs, is really good but kind of heavy on stretched-out AM Radio pop tunes. No real jams except maybe the excellent "Can't Feel It." It also features Adrian Shaw on bass and Andy Ward on drums--one of the few Frond albums with someone other than Nick playing g,v,b,d. Anybody else feel free to correct me if necessary.... Brian >> I saw this at http://www.rubricrecords.com/ , Woronzow's US distributor. >> >>> Bevis Frond Miasma CD Reissue TBA >>> Bevis Frond Inner Marshland CD Reissue TBA >>> Bevis Frond Tryptych CD Reissue TBA >>> Bevis Frond Bevis Through The Looking Glass CD Reissue TBA >>> Bevis Frond New River Head Double Expanded CD Reissue TBA >>> Bevis Frond London Stone CD Reissue TBA From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Feb 5 16:21:47 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:21:47 -0500 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond CD Reissues Message-ID: Marshall planned... >Wow, this is great timing for me. I just picked up the "Acid >Jam 2" set, which is fantastic, and now I'd like to get some BF >proper. So, where should I start? Try 'Sprawl.' Grakkl (FAA) From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Feb 5 16:35:14 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:35:14 EST Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond CD Reissues Message-ID: you can never go wrong with New River Head bob In a message dated 2/5/01 4:01:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, mwood at MY-DEJA.COM writes: > Wow, this is great timing for me. I just picked up the "Acid > Jam 2" set, which is fantastic, and now I'd like to get some BF > proper. So, where should I start? > > MWood From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Feb 5 16:41:51 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:41:51 -0500 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond CD Reissues In-Reply-To: <200102052059.MAA27641@mail1.bigmailbox.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Marshall Wood wrote: => Wow, this is great timing for me. I just picked up the "Acid => Jam 2" set, which is fantastic, and now I'd like to get some BF => proper. So, where should I start? Here's five to get you started... 1) New River Head 2) Superseeder 3) Vavona Burr 4) It Just Is 5) Inner Marshland (I also recommend squeezing in _Live at the Great American Music Hall_ at your earliest convenience...) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Mon Feb 5 16:56:49 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:56:49 +0000 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond CD Reissues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 16.41 -0500 5.2.2001, Paul Mather wrote: >On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Marshall Wood wrote: > >=> Wow, this is great timing for me. I just picked up the "Acid >=> Jam 2" set, which is fantastic, and now I'd like to get some BF >=> proper. So, where should I start? > >Here's five to get you started... > >1) New River Head >2) Superseeder >3) Vavona Burr >4) It Just Is >5) Inner Marshland > >(I also recommend squeezing in _Live at the Great American Music Hall_ >at your earliest convenience...) I also quite like _Any Gas Faster_, though I'm not going to quibble with NRH or Superseeder! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Feb 5 18:14:30 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:14:30 +0000 Subject: HW:Nikwind gig In-Reply-To: <009301c07729$f713ac40$0824fd3e@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Nick Lee wrote: > Just found this while browsing Ticketweb for the HW Crotdon gig... > > Thursday, March 22 at 8:30 PM > Hawkwind > at Limelight Club > > (NICK TURNER, TERRY OLLIS, HUE LLOYD LANGTON, DIK MIK, THOMAS CRIMBOL) > ?10.00 Hi folks... Does anyone know if this is still on, and if so, where is The Limelight Club? I mean, even the city is obscure to me so all details appreciated. Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Feb 5 18:24:47 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:24:47 +0000 Subject: HW:Nikwind gig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 23.14 +0000 5.2.2001, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Nick Lee wrote: >> Just found this while browsing Ticketweb for the HW Crotdon gig... >> Thursday, March 22 at 8:30 PM >> Hawkwind >> at Limelight Club >> (NICK TURNER, TERRY OLLIS, HUE LLOYD LANGTON, DIK MIK, THOMAS CRIMBOL) >> ?10.00 > > Hi folks... Does anyone know if this is still on, and if so, where >is The Limelight Club? I mean, even the city is obscure to me so all >details appreciated. Well, there is (or at least was) a well-known Limelight in NYC, but I can't imagine Nik has dragged this lot across the pond! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Mon Feb 5 18:44:55 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:44:55 +0000 Subject: HW:Nikwind gig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The Limelight is on Shaftesbury Avenue,virtually next to the junction with Charing Cross Road. It's a nightclub within what used to be an old church. mel. From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Feb 5 18:58:59 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:58:59 -0000 Subject: HW:Nikwind gig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not this one, it's in Crewe ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Melvyn Vincent > Sent: 05 February 2001 23:45 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW:Nikwind gig > > > The Limelight is on Shaftesbury Avenue,virtually next to the junction with > Charing Cross Road. > It's a nightclub within what used to be an old church. > > mel. > > From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Feb 5 19:02:54 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:02:54 -0000 Subject: HW:Nikwind gig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And what's more, according to Ticketweb it's been postponed, but no new date yet. I suspect it'll be rescheduled under another name. ;) Anyway to find the place, the postcode is CW1 3BP and got to www.streetmap.co.uk -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Jon Jarrett > Sent: 05 February 2001 23:15 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW:Nikwind gig > > > On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Nick Lee wrote: > > > Just found this while browsing Ticketweb for the HW Crotdon gig... > > > > Thursday, March 22 at 8:30 PM > > Hawkwind > > at Limelight Club > > > > (NICK TURNER, TERRY OLLIS, HUE LLOYD LANGTON, DIK MIK, THOMAS CRIMBOL) > > ?10.00 > > Hi folks... Does anyone know if this is still on, and if so, where > is The Limelight Club? I mean, even the city is obscure to me so all > details appreciated. Yours, > Jon > > -- > | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | > | ======================================================================| > | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | > | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | > > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Feb 5 19:01:50 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:01:50 -0000 Subject: HW: Sonic Attack inner Message-ID: You do indeed sir! Mail me off-list to make the arrangements. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 05 February 2001 02:27 Subject: Re: HW: Sonic Attack inner Do I win?? :) Allways curious - I'll nab it if its still up fo grabs Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 11:44 PM Subject: HW: Sonic Attack inner Going through my collection the other day I realised that I've got a spare lyric sheet from the original Sonic Attack LP - postage may be more hassle than its worth but it's a freebie for the first to contact me. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Feb 5 19:06:01 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:06:01 -0000 Subject: OFF:VDGG Box Message-ID: complete track list at work - e.mail me at agcdser at aol.com and I can give full details and origins. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Stewart" To: Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: Re: OFF:VDGG Box > In a message dated 1/31/2001 9:08:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, > prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM writes: > > << > >> > Van Der Graff Box?? Any details? > > Bill Stewart From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Feb 5 19:08:45 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:08:45 -0000 Subject: OFF:VDGG BOX/ATOMIC SHELTER Message-ID: I've actually got seven tapes of VDGG/Hammill Radio sessions for my sins. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: Re: OFF:VDGG BOX/ATOMIC SHELTER > So the BBC session version of Killers and Lost aren't on there then > (07/02/70)? These still exist I'm sure, I remember Alan Freeman playing > them in 1989 (strong memory associated with that one, but I won't go into > it...). > > Nor is Octopus (29/01/68) or Reawakening (07/09/69). And various others, > according to my session list. > > Pity, I'd have bought it just for the first two. > > Captain Bl at ck > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sara Zaza > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 3:19 PM > Subject: OFF:VDGG BOX/ATOMIC SHELTER > > > > Hi; > > A few folks asked about a track lising for the VDGG box, here 'tis: > > Disc 1 > > 1. People You Were Going To > > Top Gear 18/11/68 > > 2. Afterwards > > Top Gear 18/11/68 > > 3. Necromancer > > Top Gear 18/11/68 > > 4.Refugees > > BBC Peel Session 14/12/71 > > 5. Darkness (11/11) > > BBC Top Gear 27/01/70 > > 6. After The Flood > > BBC Top Gear 27/01/70 > > 7. White Hammer > > 8. House With No Door > > 9. Killer > > 10. Lost > > (7-10 are the from the orig lps but remastered) > > Disc 2 > > 11. Theme 1 > > BBC Black Session 10/06/71 > > 12. W > > B-side > > 13. A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers > > Pawn Hearts version > > 14. (In The) Black Room/ The Tower > > 09/08/75 Rimini Italy live > > 15. Lemmings > > 09/08/75 Rimini Italy live > > 16. Man-Erg > > 09/08/75 Rimini Italy live > > Disc 3 > > 17. La Rossa > > 18. Arrow (Edit) > > 19. My Room (Edit) > > 20. Sleepwalkers > > 21. Pilgrims > > 22. Childlike Faith In... > > (17-22 are lps versions remastered) > > 23. Scorched Earth > > 09/08/75 Rimini Italy live > > Disc 4 > > 24. Masks > > 25. Meurglys III (Edit) > > 26. When She Comes > > 27. Wondering > > 28. Wave > > (24-29 are all the lp versions, remastered) > > 29. Cat's Eye/ Yellow Fever > > BBC Peel Session 24/10/77 > > 30. Chemical World > > from Quiet Zone > > 31. Door > > 27/07/77 Virgin Vault > > 32. Sci-Finance > > From "Vital' > > 33. Sphinx In The Face > > BBC Peel Session 24/10/77 > > > > Comes with a nice book, photos, anecdotes/remarks from everyone, gig > > listing, etc. Perhaps if there was enough interest, there could be a kind > of > > Hammill/VDGG Collectors Club type of CD subscription service similar to > what > > Robert Fripp offers for Crimson fans via Discipline Global for archival > > stuff that might not be for the casual fan.....hmmm..... > > > > Regarding a few people asking about Atomic Shelter, I thought the lp was > > fairly leaden generic metal, although there are a few synths now and then, > > but to call this lp "spacerock" (despite the title "Space Generation") > would > > be deceptive at best. They are a Yugoslavian band, sing in English pretty > > uninspired stuff all in all. I have a copy of the lp available if anyone > is > > interested, email me off list. Nice spacey/psych cover tho.... > > > > John Stanton From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Feb 5 19:15:21 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:15:21 -0000 Subject: OFF:VDGG Box Message-ID: yes we can if this bloody mesaage gets posted. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "david hall" To: Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: Re: OFF:VDGG Box > I'm sure CD Services can oblige - some nice live stuff from 75 and > previously unreleased BBC sessions.+ rare and not so rare. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Stewart > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 01 February 2001 14:04 > Subject: Re: OFF:VDGG Box > > > >In a message dated 1/31/2001 9:08:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM writes: > > > ><< > > >> > >Van Der Graff Box?? Any details? > > > >Bill Stewart > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Feb 5 19:41:51 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:41:51 -0000 Subject: HW:Nikwind gig Message-ID: and it's cancelled - Spacehead are now doing the gig instead. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gilham" To: Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:58 PM Subject: Re: HW:Nikwind gig > Not this one, it's in Crewe ;) > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Melvyn Vincent > > Sent: 05 February 2001 23:45 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: HW:Nikwind gig > > > > > > The Limelight is on Shaftesbury Avenue,virtually next to the junction with > > Charing Cross Road. > > It's a nightclub within what used to be an old church. > > > > mel. > > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 5 19:31:18 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:01:18 +1030 Subject: Weird Tapes and other releases Message-ID: Congratualations Dad!!!! How about a cyber cigar for the special occasion :>) Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Davis To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:22 AM Subject: Weird Tapes and other releases > Hi, folks: > > Sorry to be late in getting news out. My wife and I have just brought home > a brand new baby boy, William Wallace Davis, and that's made me a tad behind > in a lot of things. As ususal you'll find the latest Artist Shop Newsletter > in its entirety at . But here are some > excerpts for Hawkwind/BOC fans. > > Recently released from Voiceprint > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes > The Weird Tapes were originally issued in the early 80's as very limited > editions,on cassette only. They are now reissued on cd for the first time. > Remastered, with stunning new artwork,credits and bonus tracks. Hawkwind > Records is authorised and overseen by original founder member Dave Brock, to > release rare and unissued recordings of the band. 1999 saw the band's > profile increase with the EMI 3cd set and massive press interest. > Hawkwind's anniversary celebrations continue with an All Nite ( 9 - 6 ) show > at Brixton Academy on 21st October,with Motorhead playing the next day ! > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 1 ( Sonic Assassins - Dave Brock ) > Tracks 1 to 5 were taken from a show at Queens Hall, Barnstaple, Devon. > Recorded on 24th December 1977, featuring Bob Calvert on vocals. Track 7 > was recorded at Rockfield studio in March 1979, Harvey Bainbridge is > featured on bass. Dave Brock plays all instruments on the other > tracks,which were laid down for a solo album. > soundbite - > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 2 (Hawkwind Live - Hawklords Studio) > The first five tracks are taken from the Spirit Of The Age Tour, recorded in > 1977, including Bob Calvert, Simon King and Simon House in the line up. The > final three tracks are from Rockfield studio, recorded in 1978 and credited > to Hawklords. > soundbite - > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 3 ( Free Festivals ) > Tracks 1 to 5 were recorded at The Stonehenge Free Festival in 1977 with a > line up that includes Bob Calvert, Simon House and Simon King. Tracks 6,7 > and 8 were recorded at The Watchfield Free Festival in 1975 and include Paul > Rudolph and Nik Turner in the line up. > soundbite - > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 4 ( Live 1978 ) > These tracks were recorded live in 1978. The line up includes Bob Calvert on > vocals and generator, with Harvey Bainbridge on vocals and bass. Due to > litigation, the band were recording and touring as The Hawklords. > soundbite - > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 5 ( Live 1976 - 77 ) > Tracks 1, 2 and 8 feature a line up that includes Bob Calvert, Nik Turner, > Paul Rudolph and Simon King. These live tracks were recorded in 1976 at > Hammersmith Odeon. The other live tracks were recorded in 1977, also at > Hammersmith Odeon. Included in the line up are Bob Calvert, Simon House > and Simon King. > soundbite - > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 7 ( Dave Brock Demos ) > All instruments and vocals are played by Dave Brock. They feature demo > recordings of future Hawkind tracks and were recorded on Revox and 4 Track > Teac, between 1976 and 1981. > soundbite - > > Future releases from Voiceprint and associated labels (pre-order now) > > > Hawkwind/Spacebrock > This is the latest studio effort from those intergalactic space rockers with > all new tracks and artwork specially commissioned and supervised by Dave > Brock. The booklet features the words to each track with atmospheric > pictures capturing the mood of this brilliant album. This is Hawkwind's > finest album for years, and essential for fans of this well loved group. > > On our forthcoming imports page > : > > MOTHER GONG/DAEVID ALLEN-WILD CHILD/AUSTRALIA AQUARIA (2CD) > UK reissue of two highly acclaimed albums from the ever expanding Gong > family tree in a special 2 CD set, showcasing thee talents of Daevid Allen > and Gilli Smyth, the 1991 release, 'Australia Aquaria-She' and Mother Gong's > 1991 release, 'Wild Child'. Featuring Robert Calvert on tenor and soprano > sax, as well as long time collaborator Harry Williamson. Brand new artwork. > > And now let's get to information on the latest releases to be found at > : > > BLUE OYSTER CULT-TYRANNY & MUTATION + SECRET TREATIES (2CD) > Exclusive French coupling of their mythical albums presented in the infamous > Axe Killer double leather digipaks. Both CDs have been remastered and > feature bonus tracks. 'Tyranny & Mutation' adds 'Cities On Flame With Rock > 'N' Roll' while 'Secret Treaties' adds, 'Stairway To The Stars'. Features a > 28 page booklet with the bands biography, album lyrics and exclusive photos. > > MOTORHEAD-ACE OF SPADES > 25th anniversary reissue for one of Britain's premier metal bands. > Originally issued in 1980, their fifth album packaged in a limited edition > miniature LP sleeve. > > MOTORHEAD-BOMBER > 25th anniversary reissue for one of Britain's premier metal bands. > Originally issued in 1979, their third album packaged in a limited edition > miniature LP sleeve. > > MOTORHEAD-OVERKILL > 25th anniversary reissue for one of Britain's premier metal bands. > Originally issued in 1979, their second album packaged in a limited edition > miniature LP sleeve. > > V/A-2001: A SPACE ROCK ODYSSEY (2CD) > 31 track space rock compilation, an indirect celebration of the ultimate > space-age acid trip movie, '2001 A Space Odyssey'. Artists include the kings > of space rock-Hawkwind, the Welsh wonders of prog-Man, Uriah Heep, Atomic > Rooster, Stray, CMU, Colosseum, Status Quo and many more. > > On a personal note, as you can imagine, I have to listen to just about every > promo CD that comes in in order to select and make the soundbites for the > website. More often than not, I enjoy that. But it's not always the case. > Hawkwind has certainly put out a lot of what you might call 'official > bootlegs' of iffy quality that has made for some rather tedious listening. > And, to be honest, I did approach the Weird Tapes CD's with some > trepidation. However, I have to say that I was delightfully surprised by > the entire Weird Tapes series. I thought both the sound quality and the > material were pretty good and I really enjoyed going over those CD's to pick > the soundbites. These CD's will definitely get some more listens from me. > > Gary > > ************************************************************** > Gary Davis > The Artist Shop The Other Road > http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com > phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 > INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! > ************************************************************** > Artist Shop Radio > Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at > http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From chrisr at TIAC.NET Mon Feb 5 19:52:32 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:52:32 -0500 Subject: Weird Tapes and other releases Message-ID: Hello, Are these Wierd CDs available to order now? I could not figure it out from the website. Anybody else in the USA selling Brockspace or Wierd CDs? I guess the real question I have waiting to ask is, Andy, when can we buy online fron your CDS Towers website? Thanks, Chris > > excerpts for Hawkwind/BOC fans. > > > > Recently released from Voiceprint > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes > > The Weird Tapes were originally issued in the early 80's as very limited > > editions,on cassette only. They are now reissued on cd for the first > time. > > Remastered, with stunning new artwork,credits and bonus tracks. Hawkwind > > Records is authorised and overseen by original founder member Dave Brock, > to > > release rare and unissued recordings of the band. 1999 saw the band's > > profile increase with the EMI 3cd set and massive press interest. > > Hawkwind's anniversary celebrations continue with an All Nite ( 9 - 6 ) > show > > at Brixton Academy on 21st October,with Motorhead playing the next day ! > > > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 1 ( Sonic Assassins - Dave Brock ) > > Tracks 1 to 5 were taken from a show at Queens Hall, Barnstaple, Devon. > > Recorded on 24th December 1977, featuring Bob Calvert on vocals. Track 7 > > was recorded at Rockfield studio in March 1979, Harvey Bainbridge is > > featured on bass. Dave Brock plays all instruments on the other > > tracks,which were laid down for a solo album. > > soundbite - > > > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 2 (Hawkwind Live - Hawklords Studio) > > The first five tracks are taken from the Spirit Of The Age Tour, recorded > in > > 1977, including Bob Calvert, Simon King and Simon House in the line up. > The > > final three tracks are from Rockfield studio, recorded in 1978 and > credited > > to Hawklords. > > soundbite - > > > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 3 ( Free Festivals ) > > Tracks 1 to 5 were recorded at The Stonehenge Free Festival in 1977 with a > > line up that includes Bob Calvert, Simon House and Simon King. Tracks 6,7 > > and 8 were recorded at The Watchfield Free Festival in 1975 and include > Paul > > Rudolph and Nik Turner in the line up. > > soundbite - > > > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 4 ( Live 1978 ) > > These tracks were recorded live in 1978. The line up includes Bob Calvert > on > > vocals and generator, with Harvey Bainbridge on vocals and bass. Due to > > litigation, the band were recording and touring as The Hawklords. > > soundbite - > > > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 5 ( Live 1976 - 77 ) > > Tracks 1, 2 and 8 feature a line up that includes Bob Calvert, Nik Turner, > > Paul Rudolph and Simon King. These live tracks were recorded in 1976 at > > Hammersmith Odeon. The other live tracks were recorded in 1977, also at > > Hammersmith Odeon. Included in the line up are Bob Calvert, Simon House > > and Simon King. > > soundbite - > > > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 7 ( Dave Brock Demos ) > > All instruments and vocals are played by Dave Brock. They feature demo > > recordings of future Hawkind tracks and were recorded on Revox and 4 Track > > Teac, between 1976 and 1981. > > soundbite - > > > > Future releases from Voiceprint and associated labels (pre-order now) > > > > > > Hawkwind/Spacebrock > > This is the latest studio effort from those intergalactic space rockers > with > > all new tracks and artwork specially commissioned and supervised by Dave > > Brock. The booklet features the words to each track with atmospheric > > pictures capturing the mood of this brilliant album. This is Hawkwind's > > finest album for years, and essential for fans of this well loved group. > > > > On our forthcoming imports page > > : > > > > MOTHER GONG/DAEVID ALLEN-WILD CHILD/AUSTRALIA AQUARIA (2CD) > > UK reissue of two highly acclaimed albums from the ever expanding Gong > > family tree in a special 2 CD set, showcasing thee talents of Daevid Allen > > and Gilli Smyth, the 1991 release, 'Australia Aquaria-She' and Mother > Gong's > > 1991 release, 'Wild Child'. Featuring Robert Calvert on tenor and soprano > > sax, as well as long time collaborator Harry Williamson. Brand new > artwork. > > > > And now let's get to information on the latest releases to be found at > > : > > > > BLUE OYSTER CULT-TYRANNY & MUTATION + SECRET TREATIES (2CD) > > Exclusive French coupling of their mythical albums presented in the > infamous > > Axe Killer double leather digipaks. Both CDs have been remastered and > > feature bonus tracks. 'Tyranny & Mutation' adds 'Cities On Flame With Rock > > 'N' Roll' while 'Secret Treaties' adds, 'Stairway To The Stars'. Features > a > > 28 page booklet with the bands biography, album lyrics and exclusive > photos. > > > > MOTORHEAD-ACE OF SPADES > > 25th anniversary reissue for one of Britain's premier metal bands. > > Originally issued in 1980, their fifth album packaged in a limited edition > > miniature LP sleeve. > > > > MOTORHEAD-BOMBER > > 25th anniversary reissue for one of Britain's premier metal bands. > > Originally issued in 1979, their third album packaged in a limited edition > > miniature LP sleeve. > > > > MOTORHEAD-OVERKILL > > 25th anniversary reissue for one of Britain's premier metal bands. > > Originally issued in 1979, their second album packaged in a limited > edition > > miniature LP sleeve. > > > > V/A-2001: A SPACE ROCK ODYSSEY (2CD) > > 31 track space rock compilation, an indirect celebration of the ultimate > > space-age acid trip movie, '2001 A Space Odyssey'. Artists include the > kings > > of space rock-Hawkwind, the Welsh wonders of prog-Man, Uriah Heep, Atomic > > Rooster, Stray, CMU, Colosseum, Status Quo and many more. > > > > On a personal note, as you can imagine, I have to listen to just about > every > > promo CD that comes in in order to select and make the soundbites for the > > website. More often than not, I enjoy that. But it's not always the > case. > > Hawkwind has certainly put out a lot of what you might call 'official > > bootlegs' of iffy quality that has made for some rather tedious listening. > > And, to be honest, I did approach the Weird Tapes CD's with some > > trepidation. However, I have to say that I was delightfully surprised by > > the entire Weird Tapes series. I thought both the sound quality and the > > material were pretty good and I really enjoyed going over those CD's to > pick > > the soundbites. These CD's will definitely get some more listens from me. > > > > Gary > > > > ************************************************************** > > Gary Davis > > The Artist Shop The Other Road > > http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com > > phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 > > INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! > > ************************************************************** > > Artist Shop Radio > > Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at > > http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 5 19:56:03 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:26:03 +1030 Subject: HW - The Electric Tepee Message-ID: Three new pics from Brixton are up a new face for the Tepee as well Any comments? http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Electric_Tepee.htm Michael Blickman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Mon Feb 5 20:07:40 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:07:40 +0000 Subject: Spacebrock?..Hawkwind? In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.20010205145205.009a47f4@gwis.com> Message-ID: I've been listening to Spacebrock for the past 2 weeks and it most definitely (in my opinion) IS NOT A HAWKWIND ALBUM (in the classic sense). It's really a Dave Brock album and the only reason ( I suspect ) that DB has emblazoned 'Hawkwind' on the top of the front cover is simply so that your average record store catalogues it under the 'H' ...'Hawkwind' section where it stands a better chance of being purchased,as opposed to the 'B' section where it could be lost for ages amongst the likes of 'Backstreet Boys,Garth Brooks,Elkie Brooks etc,etc. I've been trying really hard to get into Spacebrock....but I have to admit I'm disappointed overall. I seem to recollect a quote from DB some time ago saying how 'as an artist' you don't regress on your work....you move on. So I find myself asking.....why...why...why do we have two 20 year old tracks included (life form & some people never die)????? Why 'Kauai' ? (from Distant Horizons 4 yrs ago) Why '1st Landing' ? (from In Your Area a year ago) If all these old pieces had been substantially re-worked, then it would be easier to justify their inclusion on this album.....but they haven't. Personally...I think 'Strange Trips & Pipe Dreams' was a better DB solo album overall. Okay...it also included old material such as 'Space is Deep' as well as the more recent 'Death of War' but they were at the very least,noticeably re-worked for inclusion on that album. Spacebrock? Well.....if you cut out the old material and possibly re-engineered and mixed the remaining tracks (as well as their order).......it would be much better! mel From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Feb 5 20:17:23 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:17:23 +0000 Subject: Spacebrock?..Hawkwind? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Melvyn Vincent writes >I've been listening to Spacebrock for the past 2 weeks and it most >definitely (in my opinion) IS NOT A HAWKWIND ALBUM (in the classic sense). >It's really a Dave Brock album I agree, although I like it, with reservations. Regarding the old material: 'First Landing on Medusa' is identical to the In Your Area version, I'm pretty sure about that. However I successfully convinced myself that 'Life Form' and 'Assassination' had been tweaked a bit- does this just reflect the fact that the CD sound is sparklier than my battle-scarred old vinyl? (Although I thought 'Assassination' sounded better on the vinyl- a bit more oomph). Is this just my hi-fi interacting with my imagination? Are they actually the same as the originals? -- Nick Medford From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Feb 5 20:25:19 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:25:19 +0000 Subject: HW:Nikwind gig In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010108182801.009ef180@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Doug Pearson wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:44:11 +0000, Jon Jarrett > wrote: > >On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Doug Pearson wrote: > >> >or maybe it's the drummer from Lords Of The New Church > >> > >> ... and the Barracudas (ontopicness: Lords Of The New Church guitarist = > >> Brian James -> ex-Damned -> Doomed -> bassist=Lemmy ... OR Brian James -> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Am I reading this right? Who is this Doomed and what's Lemmy to > >them that they are midful of him? > > The "Doomed" were a one-off version of the Damned circa '78 who played one > or two shows. I *believe* the lineup was Vanian / Sensible / Lemmy / > Scabies, although this was around the time Rat Scabies was out of the band, > temporarily replaced by (future Culture Club drummer) Jon Moss. This > would've also been one of (if not THE) the first gigs after Brian James > quit and the Captain moved to guitar. > > There's also the Damned's version of "Ballroom Blitz" with Lemmy c.'79. Is > that one on the "Hawkwind spin-offs" list? It is now - many thanks to all informers! Still churning... Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Mon Feb 5 15:59:25 2001 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Sara Zaza) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:59:25 -0000 Subject: OFF: VDGG PRAWN HEARTS Message-ID: Capt wrote: > So the BBC session version of Killers and Lost aren't on there then > (07/02/70)? These still exist I'm sure, I remember Alan Freeman playing > them in 1989 (strong memory associated with that one, but I won't go into > it...). Hammill's notes in the booklet seem to indicate that he was very burned out on Killers at the time and possibly still is. It was the constant audience fave at the time and he seems to indicate that he tired of playing it . Sounds like he may still feel the same way (imho). Darkness on the Maida Vale cd is the stuff...... > > Nor is Octopus (29/01/68) or Reawakening (07/09/69). And various others, > according to my session list. Same here. No Squid either, (tho I do have a mint wlp US Aerosol with it ....). Assuming that the www interface at listserv.spc.edu will allow, here's a couple of answers ... >4. Did Simon House come from Magic Muscle to Hawkwind or direct from >High Tide? Immediately after High Tide (who split in 1971), Simon joined the Third Ear Band for their 'MacBeth' soundtrack (movie: '71, soundtrack: '72). He would have been guesting with Magic Muscle at around the same time. >1. Deviants, _Have Left the Planet_ - what are the names of the 1978 >tracks which feature Alan Powell? As someone else already stated, "Let's Loot The Supermarket (again like we did last summer)" is the only '78 track on 'Have Left the Planet'. The other 3 songs from the "Screwed Up" (title track, "Outrageous Contagious" and "Shock Horror Probe Looming") 7"EP appear on the 'Fragments of Broken Probes' CD. Paul Rudolph is also on all four of those tracks. There's also a new American-released anthology on Total Energy/Alive that includes "Screwed Up" and "Let's Loot the Supermarket...". >2. Tanz der Youth - what was the name of their single single? As someone else already mentioned, "I'm Sorry I'm Sorry" was one side; I'll looke up the other one at home tonight. -Doug (good to be back - sort of!) ceres at sirius.com From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Mon Feb 5 21:50:48 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:50:48 -0500 Subject: Spacebrock?..Hawkwind? Message-ID: I don't yet have the Spacebrock album, but I'm distressed to hear that once again it has a share of recycled material. I'd prefer that we could have a new release with just NEW stuff on it for a change. And to hear the comment that Strange Trips and Pipe Dreams was better... well I didn't really care for that album at all! I think the best Dave Brock solo album is still his first one, Earthed to the Ground, which really broke some ground, offering new material which was different from what Hawkwind was playing at the time. John Majka > I've been listening to Spacebrock for the past 2 weeks and it most > definitely (in my opinion) IS NOT A HAWKWIND ALBUM (in the classic sense). > It's really a Dave Brock album and the only reason ( I suspect ) that DB > has emblazoned 'Hawkwind' on the top of the front cover is simply so that > your average record store catalogues it under the 'H' ...'Hawkwind' section > where it stands a better chance of being purchased,as opposed to the 'B' > section where it could be lost for ages amongst the likes of 'Backstreet > Boys,Garth Brooks,Elkie Brooks etc,etc. > > I've been trying really hard to get into Spacebrock....but I have to admit > I'm disappointed overall. > I seem to recollect a quote from DB some time ago saying how 'as an artist' > you don't regress on your work....you move on. > So I find myself asking.....why...why...why do we have two 20 year old > tracks included (life form & some people never die)????? > Why 'Kauai' ? (from Distant Horizons 4 yrs ago) > Why '1st Landing' ? (from In Your Area a year ago) > If all these old pieces had been substantially re-worked, then it would be > easier to justify their inclusion on this album.....but they haven't. > Personally...I think 'Strange Trips & Pipe Dreams' was a better DB solo > album overall. Okay...it also included old material such as 'Space is Deep' > as well as the more recent 'Death of War' but they were at the very > least,noticeably re-worked for inclusion on that album. > > Spacebrock? Well.....if you cut out the old material and possibly > re-engineered and mixed the remaining tracks (as well as their > order).......it would be much better! > > mel > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Feb 6 02:39:47 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 02:39:47 -0500 Subject: HW: last few questions for the famous spin-offs file Message-ID: Here's some additional info from Rod Goodway's interview with Simon House in 'Ptolemaic Terrascope' #12: >>4. Did Simon House come from Magic Muscle to Hawkwind or direct from >>High Tide? Rod Goodway: "[High Tide] ... split in 1971 and you joined the Third Ear Band ... And then in 1972, while still a member of the Third Ear Band, you made your debut with (and became an honorary member of) Magic Muscle." (Magic Muscle opened for Hawkwind on the 'Space Ritual' tour; whether Simon played with them for any of those shows is unknown to me) >>2. Tanz der Youth - what was the name of their single single? I'm Sorry, I'm Sorry (B. James) b/w Delay (A. Colquhoun / A. Powell) Radar ADA19, 1978 Rock Music / Copyright Control So Al Powell was playing with Brian James in Tanz der Youth at around the same time (early '78) that Lemmy was playing a gig with Brian James' previous band, the Damned! Also from the Terrascope interview - Simon House: "When Turbo [with Simon King] broke up part of it went on to become The Famous Scientists with Chris North on drums, Andy Calhoun on guitar, Ian Anderson on bass and myself on violin and keyboards." Obviously, it's not the famous Ian Anderson, but I suspect it IS the same Andy Colquhoun who was in Tanz der Youth and essentially replaced Paul Rudolph in Mick Farren's post-'78 Deviants and the late-80's ('Kill 'em and Eat 'em') Pink Fairies reunion. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From wrightm at BRE.CO.UK Tue Feb 6 03:49:31 2001 From: wrightm at BRE.CO.UK (Wright, Mike) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:49:31 -0000 Subject: HW: Film Message-ID: Dear all just to say that I have a new email address, and a new job, and a big daily commute, but I can be found at wrightm at bre.co.uk, however onto my HW related snippet. I was watching 'Any given sunday' (Oliver Stone's films about american fotball, with Al Pacino and Cameron Diaz) last weekend, and was glazing over watching the credits roll past, when (and please correct me if this was all a sleep deprivation induced fantasy) during the music credits up sneaks Lifeform, performed and written by Dave Brock. I was hugely surprised at this, but felt there were at least 3 other people in the world who would be interested in this, so I'm hoping they're reading this. Cheers Mike w > -----Original Message----- > From: Denis Regenbrecht [mailto:denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE] > Sent: 05 February 2001 19:06 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Anyone have Mike Wright's email address? > > > Hi, > > >I seem to have lost it. > > The last time I wrote him it was > Hope that helps. > > (c)IAO > > D+R > Privileged and confidential information and/or copyright material may be contained in this e-mail. The information and material is intended for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee you may not copy or deliver it to anyone else or use it in any unauthorised manner. To do so is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 6 06:53:50 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 22:23:50 +1030 Subject: Hawkwind & The Electric Tepee Message-ID: could everyone out there with netscape check out the Electric Tepee and see how it comes up then let me know how itgoes Muchos Gracios Senors~ & Senyoritas :>) Michael Blackman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Feb 6 07:59:38 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:59:38 EST Subject: HW: last few questions for the famous spin-offs file Message-ID: In a message dated 2/6/01 2:45:26 AM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: << -Doug ceres at sirius.com -------- >> yes! third ear band, not ash ra temple! d'oh! -_- "<>" From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Tue Feb 6 08:44:44 2001 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:44:44 -0500 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 5 Feb 2001 - Special issue (#2001-49) Message-ID: At 07:54 PM 2/5/01 -0500, Michael wrote: > >Congratualations Dad!!!! > >How about a cyber cigar for the special occasion :>) > Thanks, Michael. What exactly does one do with a cyber cigar? ;-) And the Chris wrote: >Hello, > >Are these Wierd CDs available to order now? I could not figure it out >from the website. Anybody else in the USA selling Brockspace or Wierd >CDs? > Yes, all have been released (except #6, I'm not quite sure what the story behind that one is). They're all listed on my Voiceprint page at . Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From novadrive at HOME.COM Tue Feb 6 09:47:55 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:47:55 -0700 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: Hello Captain Bl at ck---- Inquiring minds want to know: -What is your musical background/history? -How did you come to join Hawkwind? -What's next for Starfield? -What's next for Hawkwind? -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? KevinSommers From marklicht at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Feb 6 09:52:39 2001 From: marklicht at HOTMAIL.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 06:52:39 -0800 Subject: H/W: More obscure Hawkwind relations Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From micci at SCI.FI Tue Feb 6 10:04:31 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:04:31 +0200 Subject: HW: last few questions for the famous spin-offs file Message-ID: Hi! >10. Dark Sun (next album will supposedly feature Nik Turner - is there a >title yet?) No title yet. Nik will be there if somebody pay expencives ;-) >Lemmy, Slim Jim and whom? And what was it called? Danny B. ? Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Feb 6 10:58:02 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:58:02 +0000 Subject: HW: Possible Dates Message-ID: Hiya, Does anyone actually have any clue as to whether Hawkwind are playing a gig anywhere for definate or not? And where and when it is exactly? I am looking everywhere I can think of but I can't find anything at all! Layla. >>> colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK 02/04/01 11:47pm >>> Hawkwind may be playing the following dates: Aldershot April 1st Nottingham April 2nd Cabterbury Festival August ?? From richard.cutting at JHC.CO.UK Tue Feb 6 11:07:59 2001 From: richard.cutting at JHC.CO.UK (Richard Cutting/JHC) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:07:59 +0000 Subject: HW: Possible Dates Message-ID: Croydon on March 25th seems to be pretty definite ! Layla Thompson cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: HW: Possible Dates BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List 06/02/01 15:58 Please respond to BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Hiya, Does anyone actually have any clue as to whether Hawkwind are playing a gig anywhere for definate or not? And where and when it is exactly? I am looking everywhere I can think of but I can't find anything at all! Layla. >>> colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK 02/04/01 11:47pm >>> Hawkwind may be playing the following dates: Aldershot April 1st Nottingham April 2nd Cabterbury Festival August ?? From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Tue Feb 6 12:45:03 2001 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 12:45:03 -0500 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Uh, What are you talking about? Did he sneak thru the gate without fans like me noticing? At 07:47 AM 2/6/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hello Captain Bl at ck---- >Inquiring minds want to know: > -What is your musical background/history? > -How did you come to join Hawkwind? > -What's next for Starfield? > -What's next for Hawkwind? > -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? > >KevinSommers From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 6 12:44:05 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:44:05 -0000 Subject: Spacebrock?..Hawkwind? Message-ID: >> Spacebrock? Well.....if you cut out the old material and possibly >> re-engineered and mixed the remaining tracks (as well as their >> order).......it would be much better! >> It did occur to me that SpaceBrock might be a merging of the aborted Brock 7696 and Looking For Love In the Lost Land Of Dreams albums which were listed at Mission Control for some time, which would account for the old material. I rather like it. The title track is a storming piece of, well, space(b)rock (it was great at the Astoria). Nick From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Feb 6 12:47:26 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:47:26 +0000 Subject: HW: Possible Dates Message-ID: Croydon? Do you know where? And what time?? (Please) >>> richard.cutting at JHC.CO.UK 02/06/01 04:07pm >>> Croydon on March 25th seems to be pretty definite ! Layla Thompson cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: HW: Possible Dates BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List 06/02/01 15:58 Please respond to BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Hiya, Does anyone actually have any clue as to whether Hawkwind are playing a gig anywhere for definate or not? And where and when it is exactly? I am looking everywhere I can think of but I can't find anything at all! Layla. >>> colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK 02/04/01 11:47pm >>> Hawkwind may be playing the following dates: Aldershot April 1st Nottingham April 2nd Cabterbury Festival August ?? From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Feb 6 13:25:21 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:25:21 EST Subject: HW: Finest Moments Message-ID: ...was listening to Stasis today and caught another one... Live "Space is Deep" from Space Ritual...just after the guitar-and-drums jam has finished and before the Only Dreaming "whewwwwwwwww" part, Brock is just picking away mellowly and suddenly there's an extra layer of "wah" laid on top...really smooth. Yeah? anyone else come up w/any new ones lately? Chuck From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Feb 6 13:27:53 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 18:27:53 +0000 Subject: HW: last few questions for the famous spin-offs file In-Reply-To: <200102060204.VAA19799@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > Assuming that the www interface at listserv.spc.edu will allow, here's a > couple of answers ... > > >4. Did Simon House come from Magic Muscle to Hawkwind or direct from > >High Tide? > > Immediately after High Tide (who split in 1971), Simon joined the Third Ear > Band for their 'MacBeth' soundtrack (movie: '71, soundtrack: '72). He > would have been guesting with Magic Muscle at around the same time. Oh right! I thought TEB was before HT for some reason. Well never mind, that explains why the sequence had gaps in it :-) Many thanks, and also for the Tanz der Youth B-side info. Yours, Jon ObCassette: Das Ludicroix - _Buzz Bomb_ -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 6 14:24:09 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:24:09 -0000 Subject: Weird Tapes and other releases Message-ID: Hi, OK - we are right now in the middle of data changing and checking here at CDS and expect to have the web site up and running by end of Feb - or at least that is the date we are aiming for. It is intended for the site to have secure ordering facilities, but initially it will be more list oriented than review oriented - there will be reviews there but they will be added to regularly and while the web will be an insight into CDS, it will not take the place of the catalogues which remain a priority. It's all a building process and yuo have to start somewhere, especially as only two of us are running it. If anyone wants to order by e.mail you can ( agcdser at aol.com and moiracdser at aol.com ), and don't forget, anyone ordering outside the EEC gets seventeen and a half percent discount as VAT deduction.. Hope that's helped, Andy G. (Album of the Month: Devin Townsend- The Physicist) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Raymond" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 12:52 AM Subject: Re: Weird Tapes and other releases > Hello, > > Are these Wierd CDs available to order now? I could not figure it out > from the website. Anybody else in the USA selling Brockspace or Wierd > CDs? > > I guess the real question I have waiting to ask is, Andy, when can we > buy online fron your CDS Towers website? > Thanks, > Chris > > > > > excerpts for Hawkwind/BOC fans. > > > > > > Recently released from Voiceprint > > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes > > > The Weird Tapes were originally issued in the early 80's as very limited > > > editions,on cassette only. They are now reissued on cd for the first > > time. > > > Remastered, with stunning new artwork,credits and bonus tracks. Hawkwind > > > Records is authorised and overseen by original founder member Dave Brock, > > to > > > release rare and unissued recordings of the band. 1999 saw the band's > > > profile increase with the EMI 3cd set and massive press interest. > > > Hawkwind's anniversary celebrations continue with an All Nite ( 9 - 6 ) > > show > > > at Brixton Academy on 21st October,with Motorhead playing the next day ! > > > > > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 1 ( Sonic Assassins - Dave Brock ) > > > Tracks 1 to 5 were taken from a show at Queens Hall, Barnstaple, Devon. > > > Recorded on 24th December 1977, featuring Bob Calvert on vocals. Track 7 > > > was recorded at Rockfield studio in March 1979, Harvey Bainbridge is > > > featured on bass. Dave Brock plays all instruments on the other > > > tracks,which were laid down for a solo album. > > > soundbite - > > > > > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 2 (Hawkwind Live - Hawklords Studio) > > > The first five tracks are taken from the Spirit Of The Age Tour, recorded > > in > > > 1977, including Bob Calvert, Simon King and Simon House in the line up. > > The > > > final three tracks are from Rockfield studio, recorded in 1978 and > > credited > > > to Hawklords. > > > soundbite - > > > > > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 3 ( Free Festivals ) > > > Tracks 1 to 5 were recorded at The Stonehenge Free Festival in 1977 with a > > > line up that includes Bob Calvert, Simon House and Simon King. Tracks 6,7 > > > and 8 were recorded at The Watchfield Free Festival in 1975 and include > > Paul > > > Rudolph and Nik Turner in the line up. > > > soundbite - > > > > > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 4 ( Live 1978 ) > > > These tracks were recorded live in 1978. The line up includes Bob Calvert > > on > > > vocals and generator, with Harvey Bainbridge on vocals and bass. Due to > > > litigation, the band were recording and touring as The Hawklords. > > > soundbite - > > > > > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 5 ( Live 1976 - 77 ) > > > Tracks 1, 2 and 8 feature a line up that includes Bob Calvert, Nik Turner, > > > Paul Rudolph and Simon King. These live tracks were recorded in 1976 at > > > Hammersmith Odeon. The other live tracks were recorded in 1977, also at > > > Hammersmith Odeon. Included in the line up are Bob Calvert, Simon House > > > and Simon King. > > > soundbite - > > > > > > Hawkwind/Weird Tapes 7 ( Dave Brock Demos ) > > > All instruments and vocals are played by Dave Brock. They feature demo > > > recordings of future Hawkind tracks and were recorded on Revox and 4 Track > > > Teac, between 1976 and 1981. > > > soundbite - > > > > > > Future releases from Voiceprint and associated labels (pre-order now) > > > > > > > > > Hawkwind/Spacebrock > > > This is the latest studio effort from those intergalactic space rockers > > with > > > all new tracks and artwork specially commissioned and supervised by Dave > > > Brock. The booklet features the words to each track with atmospheric > > > pictures capturing the mood of this brilliant album. This is Hawkwind's > > > finest album for years, and essential for fans of this well loved group. > > > > > > On our forthcoming imports page > > > : > > > > > > MOTHER GONG/DAEVID ALLEN-WILD CHILD/AUSTRALIA AQUARIA (2CD) > > > UK reissue of two highly acclaimed albums from the ever expanding Gong > > > family tree in a special 2 CD set, showcasing thee talents of Daevid Allen > > > and Gilli Smyth, the 1991 release, 'Australia Aquaria-She' and Mother > > Gong's > > > 1991 release, 'Wild Child'. Featuring Robert Calvert on tenor and soprano > > > sax, as well as long time collaborator Harry Williamson. Brand new > > artwork. > > > > > > And now let's get to information on the latest releases to be found at > > > : > > > > > > BLUE OYSTER CULT-TYRANNY & MUTATION + SECRET TREATIES (2CD) > > > Exclusive French coupling of their mythical albums presented in the > > infamous > > > Axe Killer double leather digipaks. Both CDs have been remastered and > > > feature bonus tracks. 'Tyranny & Mutation' adds 'Cities On Flame With Rock > > > 'N' Roll' while 'Secret Treaties' adds, 'Stairway To The Stars'. Features > > a > > > 28 page booklet with the bands biography, album lyrics and exclusive > > photos. > > > > > > MOTORHEAD-ACE OF SPADES > > > 25th anniversary reissue for one of Britain's premier metal bands. > > > Originally issued in 1980, their fifth album packaged in a limited edition > > > miniature LP sleeve. > > > > > > MOTORHEAD-BOMBER > > > 25th anniversary reissue for one of Britain's premier metal bands. > > > Originally issued in 1979, their third album packaged in a limited edition > > > miniature LP sleeve. > > > > > > MOTORHEAD-OVERKILL > > > 25th anniversary reissue for one of Britain's premier metal bands. > > > Originally issued in 1979, their second album packaged in a limited > > edition > > > miniature LP sleeve. > > > > > > V/A-2001: A SPACE ROCK ODYSSEY (2CD) > > > 31 track space rock compilation, an indirect celebration of the ultimate > > > space-age acid trip movie, '2001 A Space Odyssey'. Artists include the > > kings > > > of space rock-Hawkwind, the Welsh wonders of prog-Man, Uriah Heep, Atomic > > > Rooster, Stray, CMU, Colosseum, Status Quo and many more. > > > > > > On a personal note, as you can imagine, I have to listen to just about > > every > > > promo CD that comes in in order to select and make the soundbites for the > > > website. More often than not, I enjoy that. But it's not always the > > case. > > > Hawkwind has certainly put out a lot of what you might call 'official > > > bootlegs' of iffy quality that has made for some rather tedious listening. > > > And, to be honest, I did approach the Weird Tapes CD's with some > > > trepidation. However, I have to say that I was delightfully surprised by > > > the entire Weird Tapes series. I thought both the sound quality and the > > > material were pretty good and I really enjoyed going over those CD's to > > pick > > > the soundbites. These CD's will definitely get some more listens from me. > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > ************************************************************** > > > Gary Davis > > > The Artist Shop The Other Road > > > http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com > > > phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 > > > INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! > > > ************************************************************** > > > Artist Shop Radio > > > Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at > > > http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 6 14:28:59 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:28:59 -0000 Subject: HW: Possible Dates Message-ID: Firfield Halls, 8pm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 5:47 PM Subject: Re: HW: Possible Dates > Croydon? Do you know where? And what time?? > > (Please) > > >>> richard.cutting at JHC.CO.UK 02/06/01 04:07pm >>> > Croydon on March 25th seems to be pretty definite ! > > > > > Layla Thompson > LAN.AC.UK> cc: > Sent by: Subject: Re: HW: Possible Dates > BOC/Hawkwind > Discussion > List > V.SPC.EDU> > > > 06/02/01 15:58 > Please respond > to > BOC/Hawkwind > Discussion > List > > > > > > > Hiya, > Does anyone actually have any clue as to whether Hawkwind are playing a gig > anywhere for definate or not? And where and when it is exactly? > > I am looking everywhere I can think of but I can't find anything at all! > > Layla. > > >>> colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK 02/04/01 11:47pm >>> > Hawkwind may be playing the following dates: > > Aldershot April 1st > Nottingham April 2nd > Cabterbury Festival August ?? > From novadrive at HOME.COM Tue Feb 6 17:16:17 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:16:17 -0700 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk In-Reply-To: <4.1.20010206124346.035565e0@mail.hypernova.net> Message-ID: Well, it wasn't TOO sneaky...this from Mission Control, regarding the Hawkestra at the Brixton Academy: "Just a word to update you all on who did what the Hawkestra event; most of the synth playing that could be heard was by Keith Kniveton who had 2 EMS synthesisers linked together and did the electronics on most of the set..." and the HawkXmas at the Astoria: "LINE-UP: The line-up for the HW set included Simon House, Harvey Bainbridge, Ron Tree, Richard Chadwick, Jerry Richards, Keith Kniveton, Dave Brock, Alan Davey, Jez Huggett, Captain Rizz and a few special surprise guests." And with pictures here (top left): http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/y2k-xmas/xmas04.htm# and http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/y2k-xmas/xmas11.htm And who has been posting here fairly regularly. Better watch them gates...... KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of dhuggins Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 10:45 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk Uh, What are you talking about? Did he sneak thru the gate without fans like me noticing? At 07:47 AM 2/6/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hello Captain Bl at ck---- >Inquiring minds want to know: > -What is your musical background/history? > -How did you come to join Hawkwind? > -What's next for Starfield? > -What's next for Hawkwind? > -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? > >KevinSommers From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Tue Feb 6 17:57:59 2001 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:57:59 -0500 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh, I didn't get the connection that Capt. Black = Keith Kniveton. I do recall Keith's name somewhere in the lineups (as you have indicated below). And yes, Capt. Black ;), I second the questions presented before. Dave, Fastidiously watching gates At 03:16 PM 2/6/01 -0700, you wrote: >Well, it wasn't TOO sneaky...this from Mission Control, regarding the >Hawkestra at the Brixton Academy: "Just a word to update you all on who did >what the Hawkestra event; most of the synth playing that could be heard was >by Keith Kniveton who had 2 EMS synthesisers linked together and did the >electronics on most of the set..." and the HawkXmas at the Astoria: >"LINE-UP: The line-up for the HW set included Simon House, Harvey >Bainbridge, Ron Tree, Richard Chadwick, Jerry Richards, Keith Kniveton, Dave >Brock, Alan Davey, Jez Huggett, Captain Rizz and a few special surprise >guests." >And with pictures here (top left): > http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/y2k-xmas/xmas04.htm# >and http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/y2k-xmas/xmas11.htm >And who has been posting here fairly regularly. >Better watch them gates...... > >KevinSommers > > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of dhuggins >Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 10:45 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > > >Uh, > What are you talking about? Did he sneak thru the gate without fans >like >me noticing? > > >At 07:47 AM 2/6/01 -0700, you wrote: >>Hello Captain Bl at ck---- >>Inquiring minds want to know: >> -What is your musical background/history? >> -How did you come to join Hawkwind? >> -What's next for Starfield? >> -What's next for Hawkwind? >> -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? >> >>KevinSommers From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Feb 6 18:08:45 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 18:08:45 -0500 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba In-Reply-To: <3A7AD3F2.BCBFB98E@pa.msu.edu>; from mcintyre@PA.MSU.EDU on Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 10:36:18AM -0500 Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 10:36:18AM -0500, John McIntyre wrote: > Over on the Pink Floyd list they call them ROIOs: Recording Of Indeterminate > Origin. Sometimes pronounced as "Oreo". But here, of course, Unknown Origin would be more appropriate... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: Is there anything in astrology? Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm naturally skeptical. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 6 18:24:30 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:24:30 -0000 Subject: Spacebrock?..Hawkwind? Message-ID: or would you rather have nothing at all - the situation we had for just about 18 months beforehand, except for 'In Your Area' and just after the disappointing ' Distant Horizon' (sorry Dave!!). No, I'd much rather hear something like this ( I being one who actually thinks Spacebrock is a great album of great material - forget where it comes from and just LISTEN to the darned thing). Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melvyn Vincent" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:07 AM Subject: Re: Spacebrock?..Hawkwind? > I've been listening to Spacebrock for the past 2 weeks and it most > definitely (in my opinion) IS NOT A HAWKWIND ALBUM (in the classic sense). > It's really a Dave Brock album and the only reason ( I suspect ) that DB > has emblazoned 'Hawkwind' on the top of the front cover is simply so that > your average record store catalogues it under the 'H' ...'Hawkwind' section > where it stands a better chance of being purchased,as opposed to the 'B' > section where it could be lost for ages amongst the likes of 'Backstreet > Boys,Garth Brooks,Elkie Brooks etc,etc. > > I've been trying really hard to get into Spacebrock....but I have to admit > I'm disappointed overall. > I seem to recollect a quote from DB some time ago saying how 'as an artist' > you don't regress on your work....you move on. > So I find myself asking.....why...why...why do we have two 20 year old > tracks included (life form & some people never die)????? > Why 'Kauai' ? (from Distant Horizons 4 yrs ago) > Why '1st Landing' ? (from In Your Area a year ago) > If all these old pieces had been substantially re-worked, then it would be > easier to justify their inclusion on this album.....but they haven't. > Personally...I think 'Strange Trips & Pipe Dreams' was a better DB solo > album overall. Okay...it also included old material such as 'Space is Deep' > as well as the more recent 'Death of War' but they were at the very > least,noticeably re-worked for inclusion on that album. > > Spacebrock? Well.....if you cut out the old material and possibly > re-engineered and mixed the remaining tracks (as well as their > order).......it would be much better! > > mel From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 6 18:29:02 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:29:02 -0000 Subject: OFF: VDGG PRAWN HEARTS Message-ID: thanks, but that will have to wait for a rainy day - the one thing I have completely lost in all my activities is time for tape trading - I need a 30 hour day and less sleep. Shame but maybe one day - I will keep your details in my little red book. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara Zaza" To: Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: OFF: VDGG PRAWN HEARTS > Andy G. > > I have some nice live VDGG/Hammill shows (mid 70s) taped at the shows by a > friend in London who was a big Hammill/VDGG fan, probably different sound > that ones you may have heard (Vic 75, etc.) plus a few I did meself of K > band era stuff, if interested in trades, etc., contact me off list. > > John Stanton From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 6 18:53:03 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:53:03 -0000 Subject: RE - HW - Dead Earnest/Krel Message-ID: You can now listen to and download Dead Earnest label CD music from Krel, Spacehead, Mooch and Doug Snyder & Bob Thompson at: http://www.uksounds.com but the Snyder track up there at the moment is the wrong one and will be changed to the right one in a week or so's time - apologies for the lack of a Krel photo on this site right now but if you knew Krel, you'd understand. As to Krel, the next album WILL be one of the old ones, but we've not yet decided on what and how - I'm dealing with an artist who has no phone, no fax, no internet and no photos, not an easy task as I'm sure you understand. But right now no Dead Earnest CD's can be released until the new catalogue regime and web site at CD Services are up and running and that is why we are currently in hiatus at Dead Earnest. More news to follow soon, I hope. Andy Garibaldi. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 6 18:16:36 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:16:36 -0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 5 Feb 2001 - Special issue (#2001-49) Message-ID: Naaahhhhhh- number 6 has been released but it's just out of print right now - I presume the label will press more unless there is some unforseen problem or other and some ex-member has slapped an injunction on it or something, in which case it's bye bye baby..... Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Davis" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:44 PM Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 5 Feb 2001 - Special issue (#2001-49) > At 07:54 PM 2/5/01 -0500, Michael wrote: > > > >Congratualations Dad!!!! > > > >How about a cyber cigar for the special occasion :>) > > > > Thanks, Michael. What exactly does one do with a cyber cigar? ;-) > > > And the Chris wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >Are these Wierd CDs available to order now? I could not figure it out > >from the website. Anybody else in the USA selling Brockspace or Wierd > >CDs? > > > > Yes, all have been released (except #6, I'm not quite sure what the story > behind that one is). They're all listed on my Voiceprint page at > . > > Gary > > ************************************************************** > Gary Davis > The Artist Shop The Other Road > http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com > phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 > INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! > ************************************************************** > Artist Shop Radio > Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at > http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 6 21:23:34 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:53:34 +1030 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: > Hello Captain Bl at ck---- > Inquiring minds want to know: > -What is your musical background/history? > -How did you come to join Hawkwind? > -What's next for Starfield? > -What's next for Hawkwind? > -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? > and when is Dave & Kris' Birthday? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Sommers To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:17 AM Subject: HW: The newest Hawk > Hello Captain Bl at ck---- > Inquiring minds want to know: > -What is your musical background/history? > -How did you come to join Hawkwind? > -What's next for Starfield? > -What's next for Hawkwind? > -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? > > KevinSommers From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Tue Feb 6 21:47:31 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (Bryan Young) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:47:31 -0600 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: Here's the latest acronym I came up with: "NO-SALE" - non-offical, shared audio live events The only thing special about this one is that it emphasizes free trading only. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Eric Siegerman To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu Date: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 5:50 PM Subject: Re: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba >On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 10:36:18AM -0500, John McIntyre wrote: >> Over on the Pink Floyd list they call them ROIOs: Recording Of Indeterminate >> Origin. Sometimes pronounced as "Oreo". > >But here, of course, Unknown Origin would be more appropriate... > >-- > >| | /\ >|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com >| | / >Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: >Is there anything in astrology? >Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, >so I'm naturally skeptical. From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue Feb 6 21:41:49 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:41:49 EST Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- a FART in the ointment Message-ID: how about "FART" Free Audio Recording Trades ....bad taste mode cancelled... bob In a message dated 2/6/01 6:34:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM writes: > Here's the latest acronym I came up with: > > "NO-SALE" - non-offical, shared audio live events > > The only thing special about this one is that it emphasizes free trading > only. > > Bryan Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Tue Feb 6 22:11:55 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (Bryan Young) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:11:55 -0600 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- a FART in the ointment Message-ID: That's great! That's the one I want! Who wants to trade for one of my latest projects? Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Bob Lennon To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu Date: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 8:43 PM Subject: Re: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- a FART in the ointment >how about "FART" > >Free >Audio >Recording >Trades > >....bad taste mode cancelled... >bob > > >In a message dated 2/6/01 6:34:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, >blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM writes: > >> Here's the latest acronym I came up with: >> >> "NO-SALE" - non-offical, shared audio live events >> >> The only thing special about this one is that it emphasizes free trading >> only. >> >> Bryan > > >Hawkwind: Time & Space Website >http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From CultJacket at AOL.COM Wed Feb 7 01:32:07 2001 From: CultJacket at AOL.COM (Chris Martin) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:32:07 -0500 Subject: BOC Set list 2-4-01 Message-ID: This was the last show of BOC's 11 shows in 11 days West Coast Run. With only 1 day off and 2 shows in 1 day at 1 venue. This was probably the most grueling run BOC has had in awhile. From NYC to Oklahoma to Eastern OR to W Oregon,down to San Diego up to San Fran to Oregon again to Washington back down near San Deigo up to Los Angeles. Schneck really planned a great tour didnt he?Despite this all shows were about 100-105 mins. With the last show being 2 hrs. Maybe 1 of these days i'll make it to CA to see a show. Thanks to Rob,Judy,Rob Miller and Teri for the set list. Sun Theatre Anaheim CA 2-4-01 > E.T.I. Dancing On Stilts Buck's Boogie Joan Crawford Cities On Flame Burning For You Harvester Of Eyes The Vigil ME262 The Eye Of The Hurricane **Unknown Tongue Last Days Of May Godzilla, Monster Bass Solo, Thunder Drums Solo Intro - Reaper Encore: Golden Age Of Leather Dominance & Submission From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Wed Feb 7 04:11:46 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:11:46 -0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 5 Feb 2001 - Special issue (#2001-49) Message-ID: Yeah, but what about number 8? Dave >Naaahhhhhh- number 6 has been released but it's just out of print right >now - I presume the label will press more unless there is some unforseen >problem or other and some ex-member has slapped an injunction on it or >something, in which case it's bye bye baby..... >Andy G. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gary Davis" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:44 PM >Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 5 Feb 2001 - Special issue (#2001-49) > > >> At 07:54 PM 2/5/01 -0500, Michael wrote: >> > >> >Congratualations Dad!!!! >> > >> >How about a cyber cigar for the special occasion :>) >> > >> >> Thanks, Michael. What exactly does one do with a cyber cigar? ;-) >> >> >> And the Chris wrote: >> >> >Hello, >> > >> >Are these Wierd CDs available to order now? I could not figure it out >> >from the website. Anybody else in the USA selling Brockspace or Wierd >> >CDs? >> > >> >> Yes, all have been released (except #6, I'm not quite sure what the story >> behind that one is). They're all listed on my Voiceprint page at >> . >> >> Gary >> >> ************************************************************** >> Gary Davis >> The Artist Shop The Other Road >> http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com >> phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 >> INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! >> ************************************************************** >> Artist Shop Radio >> Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at >> http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 7 06:41:03 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:41:03 GMT Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba In-Reply-To: Bryan Young's message of Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:47:31 -0600 Message-ID: Bryan Young writes: > The only thing special about this one is that it emphasizes free trading > only. LaSoFaRe FoFP From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Wed Feb 7 07:05:38 2001 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:05:38 +0000 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- a FART in the ointment Message-ID: From: Bob Lennon > how about "FART" > > Free > Audio > Recording > Trades TRASH. : Tape Recorded Amongst Shuffling Hooves (aka Talking ruined a sound hearing) CRAP: Content recorded amongst people or B*******: [1] Better off lavishing loot on corporate sounds M at xine [1] Direct request to the band to release the recorded set of the Astoria gig....... > > > In a message dated 2/6/01 6:34:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, > blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM writes: > > > Here's the latest acronym I came up with: > > > > "NO-SALE" - non-offical, shared audio live events > > > > The only thing special about this one is that it emphasizes free trading > > only. > > > > Bryan > > > Hawkwind: Time & Space Website > http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Feb 7 06:19:14 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:19:14 EDT Subject: BOC Set list 2-4-01 In-Reply-To: <200102070632.BAA25075@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 7 Feb 01, at 1:32, Chris Martin wrote: > This was the last show of BOC's 11 shows in 11 days West Coast Run. > With only 1 day off and 2 shows in 1 day at 1 venue. This was probably > the most grueling run BOC has had in awhile. From NYC to Oklahoma to > Eastern OR to W Oregon,down to San Diego up to San Fran to Oregon > again to Washington back down near San Deigo up to Los Angeles. I'd like to thank Chris for posting all the set lists. Much appreciated! theo From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 7 08:58:55 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 00:28:55 +1030 Subject: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba Message-ID: > > The only thing special about this one is that it emphasizes free trading > > only. I thought the name was pretty special 8>))))) ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 10:11 PM Subject: Re: HW: bootleg page nearing completion -- Brixton tree tba > Bryan Young writes: > > > The only thing special about this one is that it emphasizes free trading > > only. > > LaSoFaRe > > FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 7 09:05:57 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 00:35:57 +1030 Subject: Re HW: Hawkwind at The Brixton Academy & us at the bee hive Message-ID: I need some help folks Would everyone who attended the beehive on the 21/10/2000 please look through my photos - see if you are there - and if so email me the correct spelling of your names so I can add some captions - Most I have allready but for the sake of not embarrasing myself this would be most helpfull!!! http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Electric_Tepee.htm when you get there {(ENTER}) then click on the BeeHive button at the bottom centre of the picture... 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He wasn't clear if Sony may do it,or that it may come from a different sorce. Having heard a lot of stuff that didnt make it to the Albums. I can say that most of it was worthy to be put out. I'll have to find out more about this one. There is lots of talk in the BOC camp to put out a live video this year. I think there is a great chance of this finally happing.There is also some talk about a live CD. In this past these have been brought up before,but this is the 1st time both of these are really being considered. Looks like a big year for Joe Bouchard. More on this soon From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Feb 7 13:39:12 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:39:12 -0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 5 Feb 2001 - Special issue (#2001-49) Message-ID: Not much point I would have thought bearing in mind the crossover with what's gone before - certainly not on the schedule, that's for sure. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bottomley" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:11 AM Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 5 Feb 2001 - Special issue (#2001-49) > Yeah, but what about number 8? > > Dave > > >Naaahhhhhh- number 6 has been released but it's just out of print right From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Feb 7 13:24:08 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:24:08 EDT Subject: BOC Some possible stuff In-Reply-To: <200102071912.OAA26549@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 7 Feb 01, at 14:12, Chris Martin wrote: > Deb Frost posted recently on tBS AOL Board that it looks like a May > realease for the Helen Wheels Tribute CD and still the possibity of a > Tribute Concert > Right on! to both items... > Buck does plan on recording a new solo CD in 2002 or 2003 to be sold > through his web site,he is NOT interested in getting a record deal. Wise man, that Buck... > Les Bronstein SWU vocalist has mentioned that Rhino Records may > realease Stalk Forrest Group and possibily SWU onto CD. Sounds too good to be true, but I'll keep hoping for it... > Eric Bloom has mentioned that its possible that demo's and out takes > from BOC's past might see the light of day. He wasn't clear if Sony > may do it,or that it may come from a different sorce. Having heard a > lot of stuff that didnt make it to the Albums. I can say that most of > it was worthy to be put out. I'll have to find out more about this > one. > This would be great! I hope Sony keep their tentacles off this one... > There is lots of talk in the BOC camp to put out a live video this > year. I think there is a great chance of this finally happing. Again, a great idea. I hope they put some of the new stuff on it, but I guess we'll have to be content with a 'nostalgia' package. Hope they get some closeups of BD's left had during the solos! There is > also some talk about a live CD. In this past these have been brought > up before,but this is the 1st time both of these are really being > considered. Well, CMC certainly has an affinity for live discs, because, I suspect, they have so many nostalgia bands in their stable, and us old geezers seem to soak up stuff like that. I know I'd love a live CD with the current lineup. Imaging getting the current version of Reaper, with the amazing intro, on record. An how's about a live Flaming Telepaths, or maybe Teen Archer, or...hell, I think I had an accident! > Looks like a big year for Joe Bouchard. More on this soon Hope so. Joe's been below the radar far too long! theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Feb 7 14:44:04 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:44:04 -0500 Subject: BOC: Some possible stuff In-Reply-To: <200102071912.OAA26549@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Chris Martin wrote: > Deb Frost posted recently on tBS AOL Board that it looks like a May realease > for the Helen Wheels Tribute CD and still the possibity of a Tribute Concert The Cellsum site doesn't have specifics on the when and where, but there was that big Brain Surgeons, X-Bros., David Roter show at Brownies that went over well. Maybe they'll do it there. > Les Bronstein SWU vocalist has mentioned that Rhino Records may realease Stalk > Forrest Group and possibily SWU onto CD. Wow! If Rhino remasters them and throws in some good liner notes...drool.... > Eric Bloom has mentioned that its possible that demo's and out takes from > BOC's past might see the light of day. I wonder if they'll follow Buck's lead and release them through the BOC Web site? If Buck's had a good response to his Archive Series it's possible BOC may think it's time to release these rare tunes directly to fans. Or, if Rhino does the SFG/SWU CDs, maybe they'll put together a rarities box set? > Looks like a big year for Joe Bouchard. More on this soon According to the Cellsum site, he's playing in LA in early August. Wonder if he's going to be in LA for some other reason as well.... Brian From starfield at SUPANET.COM Wed Feb 7 14:42:36 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:42:36 -0000 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Sommers To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:47 PM Subject: HW: The newest Hawk > Hello Captain Bl at ck---- > Inquiring minds want to know: > -What is your musical background/history? * I started playing Kazoo when I was about 12 and graduated from there. > -How did you come to join Hawkwind? * My guesting at Brixton and Astoria was a prize for winning the 'Funniest Nik Turner Lymeric Competition'. > -What's next for Starfield? * A ?50,000 advance from EMI to re-record Space Ritual using just a paper and comb. > -What's next for Hawkwind? * Well this is just between you and me, but I hear Dave's to be formally recognized in the Queen's birthday honours list, and Richard is to set up an Indian Takeaway Reservation in Bath after winning ?4,000,000 on the National Lottery. > -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? * Dunno, do you know any spare chicks? > > KevinSommers From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Wed Feb 7 15:05:22 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:05:22 EST Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: Now I do like the idea of a funniest Nik Turner limeric competition....Any offers ? (Great idea from the Humerous responses to the "newest Hawk" string).... ...How about this for starters... There once was a sax man called Nik Who knew a terrific be-bop lick When put through an audio generator It sounded much greater And with echo became quite psychedelic.... Or maybe not such a good idea after all....Memo to self...Keep off the special brew when on line !! From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Feb 7 15:22:37 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:22:37 -0500 Subject: BOC: Some possible stuff Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:44:04 -0500, Brian Halligan wrote: >Chris Martin wrote: >> Les Bronstein SWU vocalist has mentioned that Rhino Records may realease >> Stalk Forrest Group and possibily SWU onto CD. > >Wow! If Rhino remasters them and throws in some good liner >notes...drool.... That would be the perfect thing for Rhino to put on their limited- edition "Rhino Homemade" imprint that included the Stooges/Funhouse box set, the live Devo thing, Tim Buckley, etc. Might even be worth sending the folks at Rhino an Email in support of the idea (I have a tape of the SFG boot LP that came out a couple years back - it is well worthy of release and would appeal to 60s/psych collectors as well as BOC fans). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Feb 7 15:30:51 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:30:51 -0500 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: Well, the Hawkwind limerick competition was for real; it ran in Brian Tawn's Hawkfan sometime in the early 80's. The winning entry (IIRC) went something like: I went to the concert at Brum [1] Delighted that Hawkwind had come But at the end of the night I was given a fright By the crazy, bald, sax player's bum [2] [1] That's Birmingham, right? [2] Referring, of course, to Nik's penchant for getting nekkid back in those days. Was that your entry, Keith? I like Al's, too ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:05:22 EST, Al Ogilvy wrote: > There once was a sax man called Nik > Who knew a terrific be-bop lick > When put through an audio generator > It sounded much greater > And with echo became quite psychedelic.... From starfield at SUPANET.COM Wed Feb 7 15:35:55 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:35:55 -0000 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: There once was a man called Nik Turner Who's sax was a nice little earner He'd bleep and he'd blart He'd yowl and he'd fart So its obvious to all he's a learner. ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Pearson To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 8:30 PM Subject: Re: HW:Nik Turner limericks > Well, the Hawkwind limerick competition was for real; it ran in Brian > Tawn's Hawkfan sometime in the early 80's. The winning entry (IIRC) went > something like: > > I went to the concert at Brum [1] > Delighted that Hawkwind had come > But at the end of the night > I was given a fright > By the crazy, bald, sax player's bum [2] > > [1] That's Birmingham, right? > [2] Referring, of course, to Nik's penchant for getting nekkid back in > those days. > > Was that your entry, Keith? I like Al's, too ... > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > > On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:05:22 EST, Al Ogilvy wrote: > > There once was a sax man called Nik > > Who knew a terrific be-bop lick > > When put through an audio generator > > It sounded much greater > > And with echo became quite psychedelic.... From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Feb 7 16:20:42 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:20:42 +0000 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks In-Reply-To: <200102072030.PAA27138@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200102072030.PAA27138 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >Well, the Hawkwind limerick competition was for real; it ran in Brian >Tawn's Hawkfan sometime in the early 80's. The winning entry (IIRC) went >something like: > >I went to the concert at Brum [1] >Delighted that Hawkwind had come >But at the end of the night >I was given a fright >By the crazy, bald, sax player's bum [2] > >[1] That's Birmingham, right? >[2] Referring, of course, to Nik's penchant for getting nekkid back in >those days. > Based on my own memories of being exposed to this hideous sight: There once was a gangling flautist, Of the Hawks, he was hardly the shortest. This crazy old dude Looked rough in the nude As his buttocks- well, they weren't the tautest. -- Nick Medford From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Feb 7 16:52:52 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:52:52 GMT Subject: BOC: a new Meltzer pov. Message-ID: Scott: In the intro to the "Punk" section of your book, you wrote, "I really did want rock to DIE." Richard: At that time, yeah. Scott: I think the interesting word there is "want," 'cause to me that kind of implies that you didn't think it necessarily WAS already dead. So if it wasn't already... Richard: Oh, I wanted the ashes to be burnt; I wanted it to be, uh -- I wanted it to GO AWAY. Scott: How come? Richard: At the time? Scott: Yeah. Richard: It was so on an employment level, it was like, uh, let's talk about capitalism. I mean, once it got set up that writers were there to be shills and FLAKS -- I mean, every review was HYPE, it was quotable in an ad. I did a review of a movie about Hendrix called A Film About Jimi Hendrix, that I actually thought was pretty good, but they took a piece of my review that they used very out of context to hype this movie. And I objected to being used as hype. Scott: They quoted you in the ad? Richard: They quoted me in the ad, but the piece of it they used didn't make sense. But whatever it was, my feeling was simply that my exposure to what you might call the blast furnace, working in the fucking blast furnace of the back rooms of rock promotion, just very much -- just MEETING BANDS, I mean by then it was like, you go to a show, and hang out backstage, and every single fucking member of every band was an ASShole. I mean, who really had it in them to tour forty weeks a year or whatever bands did? And it would turn them into BEASTS. It would make the music completely digital -- it was like MACHINES playing these same songs you were sick of. Blue Oyster Cult, who were my friends, I couldn't stand to see them play anymore. But it really was, it was something absolutely -- from whatever level, I mean, I didn't sit in Madison Square Gardens, I didn't go to arena rock shows too often, but I imagine there are social reasons to go to those things that have very little to do with the music, which is fine. But to be backstage at some of these shows, to have ANY connection to these musicians, by then, these musicians were LOATHsome, and yes, there are exceptions. [snip] I mean, I've always liked anonymous metal bands who were the equivalent of Spinal Tap, but I never liked the glory boys, the front-runners of metal, 'cause I don't see them as different from the Eagles, I don't know why. I mean, the sonic FACT of what they do, is just, how to put it, it doesn't shake me on any level, it doesn't seem to function anymore except as VOLUME. I mean, I remember seeing, there was this band the Dictators, who were managed by the same guy, Sandy Pearlman, who had Blue Oyster Cult, and they were a kind of half-decent, not-quite-a-punk band, they were kind of a Commie/wrestling-based New York band, they were the band in New York between the New York Dolls and Television, say; it was a brief moment. And then Blue Oyster Cult turned up the volume, and so the Dictators had to do the same thing to show their manager they could do it, and everything they did that had any charm to it just became unlistenable volume. And to me, PUNK had so much more -- the kernel of sound from punk -- had SO much more definition, had so much more, y'know, interesting sonic atoms. [snip to a really interesting fencing match:] Scott: I think that video is an afterthought, at least from the band's perspective. Richard: Not the bands that I've talked to. Blue Oyster Cult would literally think, when I was still writing lyrics for them, "Could you give us some songs that we could make videos out of?" Scott: Yeah, Blue Oyster Cult, though, I mean? Richard: They were shit (laughs), but whose isn't? Scott: Not only that, but by the time of the video age I don't know if Blue Oyster Cult really meant anything to anyone, so... Richard: They had an enormous hit with "Burnin' For You," and with a video. Scott: Did you write the lyrics for that one? Richard: Yeah. Scott: And no royalty cheques? Richard: I got some, but certainly not all. --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From starfield at SUPANET.COM Wed Feb 7 16:52:34 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:52:34 -0000 Subject: HW: Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: There once was a man called Nik Turner Who's sax was a nice little earner He'd bleep and he'd blart He'd yowl and he'd fart So its obvious to all he's a learner. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Douglas Pearson > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 8:30 PM > Subject: Re: HW:Nik Turner limericks > > > > Well, the Hawkwind limerick competition was for real; it ran in Brian > > Tawn's Hawkfan sometime in the early 80's. The winning entry (IIRC) went > > something like: > > > > I went to the concert at Brum [1] > > Delighted that Hawkwind had come > > But at the end of the night > > I was given a fright > > By the crazy, bald, sax player's bum [2] > > > > [1] That's Birmingham, right? > > [2] Referring, of course, to Nik's penchant for getting nekkid back in > > those days. > > > > Was that your entry, Keith? I like Al's, too ... > > > > -Doug > > ceres at sirius.com > > > > On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:05:22 EST, Al Ogilvy wrote: > > > There once was a sax man called Nik > > > Who knew a terrific be-bop lick > > > When put through an audio generator > > > It sounded much greater > > > And with echo became quite psychedelic.... > From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed Feb 7 17:15:41 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:15:41 -0500 Subject: HW: On The Ether Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS All HW Crew please login to Mission Control >Updates On The Ether - Important Development Announced www.hawkwind.org.uk ++MESSAGE ENDS From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Feb 7 18:17:11 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:17:11 -0000 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: oh yes......and speaking of Nik Turner, the Dark Sun CD, with Turner, of Hakwind cover versions is now in stock and available to order here at CDS towers. Also, a really bizarre thing - we have come upon ten brand new copies of the Captain Lockheed Lp on vinyl - fold out cover, inner lyric sheets and all - so anyone here interested, better contact me ASAP as they will go right rapid, as they say up north. Toodle pips, Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Ogilvy" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 8:05 PM Subject: Re: HW:Nik Turner limericks > Now I do like the idea of a funniest Nik Turner limeric competition....Any > offers ? > (Great idea from the Humerous responses to the "newest Hawk" string).... > ...How about this for starters... > > There once was a sax man called Nik > Who knew a terrific be-bop lick > When put through an audio generator > It sounded much greater > And with echo became quite psychedelic.... > > Or maybe not such a good idea after all....Memo to self...Keep off the > special brew when on line !! From nick at NETPHD.NET Wed Feb 7 18:11:04 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:11:04 -0500 Subject: BOC Some possible stuff In-Reply-To: <200102071924.OAA22439@syr.edu> Message-ID: > I know I'd love a live CD with > the current lineup. My feelings are mixed on this. If it doesn't interfere with the generation and output of new material, then I say go for it. But if, for instance, our choice for 2002 or 2003 would be live album or new studio album, give me the new studio. There's just been too many years with too little fresh material. Perhaps I'm being greedy, but so be it!!! --Nick From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Feb 7 18:20:35 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:20:35 -0500 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: This is a CD reissue of the 'Ice Ritual' LP, right (half Dark Sun w/Nik, half w/o Nik doing HW covers)? Or something else? I like the fact that Dark Sun w/Nik sounds very different from the Grenas/Del Rio/Farflung/Pressurehed/Space Ritual band w/Nik; both excellent, although I slightly prefer the stretched-out versions by the latter band where Nik gets to solo on and on while the band does an endless rave-up. The Dark Sun versions are short and concise, without being ICU-punkish. On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:17:11 -0000, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >oh yes......and speaking of Nik Turner, the Dark Sun CD, with Turner, of >Hakwind cover versions is now in stock and available to order here at CDS >towers. (I think I've said this before, but Scott Heller & co. did a stunningly- *beautiful* job with that LP, both in terms of packaging AND sonics) >Also, a really bizarre thing - we have come upon ten brand new copies of >Captain Lockheed Lp on vinyl - fold out cover, inner lyric sheets and all - >so anyone here interested, better contact me ASAP as they will go right >rapid, as they say up north. On United Artists (or BGO - I thought the BGO reissue had the gatefold but not the lyric booklet)?!? Damn! That's a find! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Wed Feb 7 18:26:56 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:26:56 +0000 Subject: OFF: Cyberphobia Message-ID: Hey, check these guys out on MP3.com: http://www.mp3.com/Cyberphobia/ Jon Jarrett just pointed me to them, and they're quite good IMO. Industrial-tinged spacerock. Kinda reminds me of Sons of Selina meets Born to Go in a way. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Wed Feb 7 18:59:10 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:59:10 +0000 Subject: HW/OFF: _Ice Ritual_ (was Re: HW:Nik Turner limericks) In-Reply-To: <200102072320.SAA27884@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: At 18.20 -0500 7.2.2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: >This is a CD reissue of the 'Ice Ritual' LP, right (half Dark Sun w/Nik, >half w/o Nik doing HW covers)? Yup. Plus a bonus track of a Dark Sun studio piece not on the LP: "Dream Circuit". >I like the fact that >Dark Sun w/Nik sounds very different from the Grenas/Del >Rio/Farflung/Pressurehed/Space Ritual band w/Nik; both excellent, although >I slightly prefer the stretched-out versions by the latter band where Nik >gets to solo on and on while the band does an endless rave-up. The Dark >Sun versions are short and concise, without being ICU-punkish. Though _Ice Ritual_ doesn't really show off Dark Sun to their best advantage, IMO, worthwhile though the album undeniably is. Dark Sun's one studio CD release so far (_Feed Your Mind_) I think is stunning, and they utterly blew me away in concert a few years ago at the J?nk?ping Spacerock festival (actually, one of the pictures in the CD insert is one I took at the J?nk?ping festival :) I'm really keen to see the current band live and hear more of their original stuff. Hmmm, looks like I'll have to plan a Finland trip! Catch Five Fifteen as well ... :) And maybe Amoprhis ... :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Feb 7 17:33:25 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:33:25 -0500 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >There once was a gangling flautist, >Of the Hawks, he was hardly the shortest. >This crazy old dude >Looked rough in the nude >As his buttocks- well, they weren't the tautest. eh.... Surrounded with science and fact-- the one with whom we made our pact: to spare us the sight if he scarred us that night within a few years he'd be sacked ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 7 19:26:54 2001 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:26:54 EST Subject: BOC Set list 01/25/01 Message-ID: Well, I'm happy for the West Coast folks, but I have to say I was disappointed with the 01/25/01 Concho, OK show. First show of the year, and it was a yawner. Setlist (from memory, so I may have some of the order wrong...) Stairway Before the Kiss ETI Pocket Buck's Boogie The Vigil COF Eric asked for the vote. LDOM (Cheers)/Astronomy (Louder Cheers)/then he said they'd come back to this. He said they were going to play something new. Now Is The Time The Old Gods Return BFY Zilla Intro/Reaper Enc: D&S Really short set. Less than 80 minutes total. No LDOM/A/VOPW. It was like a throwback to the stale setlists they did the last couple of years. Then I see the breathtaking CA setlists and it makes the show that much more disappointing. Maybe next time... Ric In a message dated 02/07/2001 12:32:38 AM Central Standard Time, CultJacket at AOL.COM writes: > This was the last show of BOC's 11 shows in 11 days West Coast Run. With > only 1 day off and 2 shows in 1 day at 1 venue. This was probably the most > grueling run BOC has had in awhile. From NYC to Oklahoma to Eastern OR to W > Oregon,down to San Diego up to San Fran to Oregon again to Washington back > down near San Deigo up to Los Angeles. Schneck really planned a great tour > didnt he?Despite this all shows were about 100-105 mins. With the last show > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Over to you Mr Brock! .....Answers please!? mel From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 7 22:16:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:46:27 +1030 Subject: Hawkwind Re Beehive 21/10/2000 Message-ID: Hi would anyone with photos from the beehive - especially those with studdly photos of my self aheeemm 8>))) - like to email me a copy to have included at the tepee? Michael B -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Feb 7 23:19:44 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:19:44 -0700 Subject: Cyberphobia In-Reply-To: Message-ID: When I was in London to see the HawkXmas show, I stayed with Jerry Bailes, who co-wrote 'Robot Love.' Great chap, great song. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 4:27 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Cyberphobia Hey, check these guys out on MP3.com: http://www.mp3.com/Cyberphobia/ Jon Jarrett just pointed me to them, and they're quite good IMO. Industrial-tinged spacerock. Kinda reminds me of Sons of Selina meets Born to Go in a way. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From chrisr at TIAC.NET Wed Feb 7 23:27:03 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:27:03 -0500 Subject: Off: Sons of Selina Message-ID: I love the Sons of Selina. Have they ever played gigs around the UK? I have the 2 CDs and the EP and one cassette, but I really would like to hear morefrom this band. Are they still together? I guess I should have looked at the Delerium site before writing this. Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 4:27 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: OFF: Cyberphobia > > Hey, check these guys out on MP3.com: http://www.mp3.com/Cyberphobia/ > > Jon Jarrett just pointed me to them, and they're quite good IMO. > Industrial-tinged spacerock. Kinda reminds me of Sons of Selina meets > Born to Go in a way. > > Cheers, > Carl > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:scylding at carlaz.com > http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Feb 8 00:56:40 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:56:40 -0700 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks In-Reply-To: <44.b2e1d82.27b30482@aol.com> Message-ID: Beware of every "Hawkwind" show And check the line-up 'fore you go Expecting the Baron You might be starin' At just Nik & friends, oh no! KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Al Ogilvy Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:05 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW:Nik Turner limericks Now I do like the idea of a funniest Nik Turner limeric competition....Any offers ? (Great idea from the Humerous responses to the "newest Hawk" string).... ...How about this for starters... There once was a sax man called Nik Who knew a terrific be-bop lick When put through an audio generator It sounded much greater And with echo became quite psychedelic.... Or maybe not such a good idea after all....Memo to self...Keep off the special brew when on line !! From CultJacket at AOL.COM Thu Feb 8 01:04:50 2001 From: CultJacket at AOL.COM (Chris Martin) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 01:04:50 EST Subject: BOC Set list 01/25/01 Message-ID: In a message dated 01-02-07 19:38:48 EST, you write: << Really short set. Less than 80 minutes total. No LDOM/A/VOPW. It was like a throwback to the stale setlists they did the last couple of years. Then I see the breathtaking CA setlists and it makes the show that much more disappointing. Maybe next time... Ric >> Ric, I've seen shows like this. For some reason it always seems to be the ones I drive 4 hrs for.Uggggggh Anway there was a report about this show. It was said that the opening band was scratched and BOC took the stage an hour or so early and lots of folks missed most of the show. This would be enough to tick me off. Buck said that the club called them at like 7:30 and said get down here your going on now,and they put a time limit on their show to wrap it up in under 90 mins......I cant figure that out. Dont clubs wanna keep you there longer so they can sale you more booze? Bummer since they dont play OK that much. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 8 01:27:56 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:27:56 +0800 Subject: Spacebrock?..Hawkwind? Message-ID: Mel said: > No.....I would not rather have nothing at all. > But,I think SpaceBrock could still adequately stand on its own two feet > without the regurgitation of old material. >I'm just baffled as to why Dave Brock feels justified in including old >material amongst new > material.....it just doesn't make sense. > If there is some logical reasoning it's inclusion.......fine (I suppose!). > Or perhaps he feels a need to use up all of the audio space on the CD, and > so inserts some old material to pad it out a bit? It could be something as simple as meeting recording contracts/obligations. > Over to you Mr Brock! .....Answers please!? How many new titles on the Spacebrock album? I don't know what songs are on it yet and I'm a little curious. Can someone list them for me? Thanks in advance :-) Bill From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Thu Feb 8 04:35:21 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:35:21 -0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 5 Feb 2001 - Special issue (#2001-49) Message-ID: True, but didn't that also apply to Weird 6? Both 6 & 8 have around 10-15 minutes worth of music not available on CD elsewhere. Maybe Dave's none too keen on having "Down On Her Knees" out there again........... Dave >Not much point I would have thought bearing in mind the crossover with >what's gone before - certainly not on the schedule, that's for sure. >Andy G. > >> Yeah, but what about number 8? >> >> Dave >> >> >Naaahhhhhh- number 6 has been released but it's just out of print right From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 8 00:11:51 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:41:51 +1030 Subject: Hawkwind bee hive related Message-ID: Is Jims last name spelled with an S or a Z in it wanting to update the pix Mb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Feb 8 07:01:16 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:01:16 -0500 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:56:40 -0700, Kevin Sommers wrote: >Beware of every "Hawkwind" show >And check the line-up 'fore you go >Expecting the Baron >You might be starin' >At just Nik & friends, oh no! > >KevinSommers > On the other hand... When the Hawks played the Astoria They fed our hungry sensoria And the audience dug it When a bloke called Jez Huggett Played sax amid the euphoria. Here's another which came to me in the shower this morning: There once was a drummer, Si King He pounded the skins like a Viking But- youngsters take heed- For the booze and the speed He developed too much of a liking. Nick From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Thu Feb 8 07:18:35 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:18:35 -0000 Subject: HW: Mission COntrol, and Cyberphobia Message-ID: Hey folks, is it just me or is there no new announcement on Mission Control? >Hey, check these guys out on MP3.com: http://www.mp3.com/Cyberphobia/ > >Jon Jarrett just pointed me to them, and they're quite good IMO. >Industrial-tinged spacerock. Kinda reminds me of Sons of Selina meets >Born to Go in a way. > >Cheers, >Carl I can second that- I bought the album they have on MP3.com, 'Moon Rock', and all tracks are consistent as good as the 3 tracks they offer for free download. Full throttle blanga. Mark From richard.cutting at JHC.CO.UK Thu Feb 8 07:24:48 2001 From: richard.cutting at JHC.CO.UK (Richard Cutting/JHC) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:24:48 +0000 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: Apologies to Dave B but I couldn't resist it..... The leader of Hawkwind is Brock Who even though ancient can rock With guitar in hand and craggy face He leads the band through outer space And to all their gigs we flock ! ?...I'll get me coat?..... From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Feb 8 07:44:24 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:44:24 -0500 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: There once was a man called Nik T Who cooked up a strange recipe His eyes were on stalks As he told all the Hawks He'd successfully made LSD. Umm..OK...enough already.. Nick From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 8 06:52:58 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 07:52:58 EDT Subject: BOC Some possible stuff In-Reply-To: <200102072311.SAA01436@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: On 7 Feb 01, at 18:11, Nick English wrote: > > I know I'd love a live CD with > > the current lineup. > > > My feelings are mixed on this. If it doesn't interfere > with the generation and output of new material, then I > say go for it. But if, for instance, our choice for > 2002 or 2003 would be live album or new studio album, > give me the new studio. Oh, absolutely! There's just been too many > years with too little fresh material. Perhaps I'm > being greedy, but so be it!!! One new album in 10 years? You're not greedy! theo From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Thu Feb 8 08:03:31 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:03:31 -0000 Subject: BOC Some possible stuff Message-ID: To be honest though I wouldn't mind a live album covering the warrior on the edge of time tour. I think that someone on this list mentioned this already. Colm -----Original Message----- From: Ted Jackson [mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] Sent: 08 February 2001 11:53 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: BOC Some possible stuff On 7 Feb 01, at 18:11, Nick English wrote: > > I know I'd love a live CD with > > the current lineup. > > > My feelings are mixed on this. If it doesn't interfere > with the generation and output of new material, then I > say go for it. But if, for instance, our choice for > 2002 or 2003 would be live album or new studio album, > give me the new studio. Oh, absolutely! There's just been too many > years with too little fresh material. Perhaps I'm > being greedy, but so be it!!! One new album in 10 years? You're not greedy! theo *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. 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From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Feb 8 08:37:51 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:37:51 -0000 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: With golden sax and flute, And silver-hued spacesuit, Nik Turner was there, On the stage with big hair, 'Til Dave B gave him the boot! --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:44 PM Subject: Re: HW:Nik Turner limericks > There once was a man called Nik T > Who cooked up a strange recipe > His eyes were on stalks > As he told all the Hawks > He'd successfully made LSD. > > Umm..OK...enough already.. > > Nick > From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Feb 8 08:42:19 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:42:19 -0500 Subject: BOC: Three more dates announced Message-ID: 3/31/01 Highland, CA (casino) 5/18/01 Richardson, TX (Dallas area festival) 8/03/01 Sheboyagan, WI (a festival) -- "Is not life a hundred times too short for us to bore ourselves? " - Nietzsche From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 8 08:56:48 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:56:48 GMT Subject: Niklyrics Message-ID: We've seen him playing in the sun At festivals of beer and fun He didn't care what time it was He'd just keep playing for the cause Is he out or is he in? Is his playing just a din? Turning up and burning out While subverting from within His course determined by All Stars His momma's Uncle Sam's on Mars His spiky suit appeared to glow As lighted saxophone he'd blow Is he out or is he in? Is his playing just a din? Turning up and burning out While subverting from within His band's name changes with the tide He often joins in for the ride In costumes that are all home-made With psychedelic coloured shades His ad-libbing conciously With continual frequency Would often others irritate And in the end would seal his fate Is he out or is he in? Is his playing just a din? Turning up and burning out While subverting from within From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 8 09:05:19 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:35:19 +1030 Subject: Don't forget: HW Covers Message-ID: Hi Kevin - still haven't uploaded the song yet - does it matter if there is no singing on my cover? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Perry To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:50 PM Subject: Don't forget: HW Covers > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/hwcovers.asp > > And if you have any you'd like to add, drop me an email and I'll give you > instructions. > > --- > Kevin Perry > Sonic Energy Authority > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 8 09:06:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:36:45 +1030 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: also - I have over 500 emails I've been to lazy to sort or delete could you save me a search & email instructions again Thanks Mate Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Perry To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:07 AM Subject: Re: HW:Nik Turner limericks > With golden sax and flute, > And silver-hued spacesuit, > Nik Turner was there, > On the stage with big hair, > 'Til Dave B gave him the boot! > > --- > Kevin Perry > Sonic Energy Authority > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nick Medford > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:44 PM > Subject: Re: HW:Nik Turner limericks > > > > There once was a man called Nik T > > Who cooked up a strange recipe > > His eyes were on stalks > > As he told all the Hawks > > He'd successfully made LSD. > > > > Umm..OK...enough already.. > > > > Nick > > > From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Feb 8 09:15:47 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:15:47 -0000 Subject: Don't forget: HW Covers Message-ID: Nope. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael W Blackman To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Don't forget: HW Covers > Hi Kevin - still haven't uploaded the song yet - does it matter if there is > no singing on my cover? > > Mb > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kevin Perry > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:50 PM > Subject: Don't forget: HW Covers > > > > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/hwcovers.asp > > > > And if you have any you'd like to add, drop me an email and I'll give you > > instructions. > > > > --- > > Kevin Perry > > Sonic Energy Authority > > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > > duties." From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Feb 8 09:51:21 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:51:21 EST Subject: HW: Finest Moments Message-ID: In a message dated 2/6/01 1:27:25 PM, Chuckrecs at AOL.COM writes: << Live "Space is Deep" from Space Ritual...just after the guitar-and-drums jam has finished and before the Only Dreaming "whewwwwwwwww" part, Brock is just picking away mellowly and suddenly there's an extra layer of "wah" laid on top...really smooth. Yeah? >> ========= if you are suggesting a gtr. overdub on top of the live recording...um... i am reminded of the way 'born to go' is followed by 'down through the night'; there are several moments between the two on the audience tape, but on the lp, one fades out whilst the next fades up, creating two guitars, briefly. that brock's vocals on 'down through the night' were redone/overdubbed are another story. "<>" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 8 10:07:23 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:07:23 -0500 Subject: Cyberphobia Message-ID: >When I was in London to see the HawkXmas show, I stayed with Jerry Bailes, >who co-wrote 'Robot Love.' Great chap, great song. Which, to my ears, sounds just a bit like "Flying Doctor" musically speaking. The vocals are quite different. I've discovered a few bands through www.mp3.com, though I'd say that the bands don't always sound like the way they're advertised (through the artist-supplied list of influences and 'soundalikes'). But I learned about the Italian group 'Sunscape' who are a spacey-proggish sort of band, on the lines of Porcupine Tree. And Milo Black, a psych guitar-synth 'band', mostly one guys Miles (Something) from somewhere in the UK. And a couple more I can't remember at the moment. >Carl Edlund Anderson >mailto:scylding at carlaz.com >http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ And then there's this collection of fools that put up their (otherwise) unreleased stuff. I guess I'll have to figure out the whole mp3 thing now that I have a computer with sound. Grakkl (FAA) From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Feb 8 11:22:56 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:22:56 -0500 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: There once was a feller named Huw Who was fond of a beverage or two He turned up at Brixton Totally blitzed on A cocktail of ganja and brew. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 8 11:30:36 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:30:36 -0500 Subject: HW: bee hive related Message-ID: MB asked... >Is Jims last name spelled with an S or a Z in it > >wanting to update the pix Are you talking about Jim Lascko? Grakkl (FAA) From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Feb 8 11:44:23 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:44:23 EST Subject: HW: Finest Moments Message-ID: In a message dated 2/8/01 6:52:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > if you are suggesting a gtr. overdub on top of the live recording...um... ---not really...just that he "flicked a switch" on his guitar or something, to enhance the sound already coming forth...but i have no idea... > i am reminded of the way 'born to go' is followed by 'down through the > night'; there are several moments between the two on the audience tape, but > on the lp, one fades out whilst the next fades up, creating two guitars, > briefly. > that brock's vocals on 'down through the night' were redone/overdubbed are > another story. > Would you like to tell it? Chuck From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Feb 8 12:55:58 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:55:58 +0000 Subject: Off: Sons of Selina In-Reply-To: <3A822017.44E06E64@tiac.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Chris Raymond wrote: > I love the Sons of Selina. Have they ever played gigs around the UK? I have > the 2 CDs and the EP and one cassette, but I really would like to hear > morefrom this band. Are they still together? I guess I should have looked at > the Delerium site before writing this. Um, given that Delerium now moves but rarely and portions of its website haven't been updated for many years (do you know what Vex are doing? Neither do they, but the web-page is still there), I'd go to as first port of call. Even that doesn't answer the question of what they're doing now but I doubt Neil Birchall will ever stop really. They don't tour much or at all. Occasional gigs but only one tour to their credit I think, and that supporting Porcupine Tree (possibly not one of Richard Allen's best ideas?) Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Feb 8 13:28:31 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:28:31 EST Subject: HW: Finest Moments Message-ID: In a message dated 2/8/01 11:45:39 AM, Chuckrecs at AOL.COM writes: << > that brock's vocals on 'down through the night' were redone/overdubbed are > another story.>> > Would you like to tell it? Chuck >> not really; we're talking some 'space ritual' songs being re-sung, in der studio, 'sall. hardly uncommon in the early '70s,not a big deal. [g] "<>" From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 8 13:50:10 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:50:10 GMT Subject: Don't forget: HW Covers In-Reply-To: Kevin Perry's message of Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:20:54 -0000 Message-ID: Kevin Perry writes: > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/hwcovers.asp > > And if you have any you'd like to add, drop me an email and I'll give you > instructions. When I click on the Hawkwind covers link using Explorer 5 I get a "Microsoft JET Database" error. FoFP From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Feb 8 14:03:02 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:03:02 -0000 Subject: Don't forget: HW Covers Message-ID: That's because I'm currently abusing the server :-) Should be OK in 5 minutes or so. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Don't forget: HW Covers > Kevin Perry writes: > > > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/hwcovers.asp > > > > And if you have any you'd like to add, drop me an email and I'll give you > > instructions. > > When I click on the Hawkwind covers link using Explorer 5 I get a > "Microsoft JET Database" error. > > FoFP > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 8 13:57:57 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:57:57 GMT Subject: Tape trading Message-ID: Thanks to everyone who sent me their list after I'd accidentally posted mine up here. I've printed them all off. However, to be fair to folks, I'll have to postpone any trades. At the moment I'm quite a ways behind checking the bunch of CD's released since June against the Codex and Discography. I'm also aware that I'm in the middle of a compilation of the 1999 mini-tour that I still haven't completed (sorry Dan - I really will get this done sooner or later) and others of you will know of a couple of other projects which also need some work. So to be fair to traders, I'll have to decline for the moment. It seems unlikely that I'll really have time to do other than the currently listed projects before the end of March. If you still don't have what you're after from my list by then, remind me about it - I'll be keeping those lists aside for then. I feel it'd be unfair to promise trades and then take forever to get them sent out, and I have had requests for an up to date Codex and it's down to me to get that organised. I apologise if anyone feels hard done by but I gotta prioritise if I'm gonna get this stuff done. Cheers FoFP From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Feb 8 14:07:18 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:07:18 -0000 Subject: Don't forget: HW Covers Message-ID: I've got to rewrite a bit of it so that it accesses the database in a mulithreaded fashion so it's possible to do admin and build the pages at the same time - I'd forgotten how long uploads took, which is really dtupid of me but... --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Don't forget: HW Covers > Kevin Perry writes: > > > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/hwcovers.asp > > > > And if you have any you'd like to add, drop me an email and I'll give you > > instructions. > > When I click on the Hawkwind covers link using Explorer 5 I get a > "Microsoft JET Database" error. > > FoFP > From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Thu Feb 8 14:56:24 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:56:24 +0000 Subject: Cyberphobia In-Reply-To: <200102081517.KAA12341@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: K Henderson muses: >>http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ > >And then there's this collection of fools that put up their (otherwise) >unreleased stuff. I guess I'll have to figure out the whole mp3 thing now >that I have a computer with sound. Oh, you don't want to mess with those recordings! It's just a bunch of suspect spacerock with sound quality rivaled only by dodgy Dave Anderson recordings :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Thu Feb 8 14:52:49 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:52:49 +0000 Subject: Niklyrics In-Reply-To: <200102081356.NAA14854@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 13.56 +0000 8.2.2001, M Holmes wrote: > [Niklyrics omitted] Superior! I think the Nikwind Reunion Band should whip together some music for it and play it ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Feb 8 15:04:46 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:04:46 -0500 Subject: Niklyrics Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:52:49 +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >At 13.56 +0000 8.2.2001, M Holmes wrote: >> [Niklyrics omitted] > >Superior! Haha! Yes! >I think the Nikwind Reunion Band should whip together some >music for it Um ... I'm pretty sure that there's already music (written by Nik back around 1974) to go with it ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Feb 8 15:31:14 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:31:14 -0500 Subject: OFF: Scylding (was Re: Cyberphobia) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > K Henderson muses: >>> http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ >> >> And then there's this collection of fools that put up their (otherwise) >> unreleased stuff. I guess I'll have to figure out the whole mp3 thing now >> that I have a computer with sound. Carl replies: > Oh, you don't want to mess with those recordings! It's just a bunch > of suspect spacerock with sound quality rivaled only by dodgy Dave > Anderson recordings :) I've just been getting into mp3.com lately, and I've found that amid the muck, and a sneaking suspicion it was recorded with a single microphone on the other side of town, "Wolf At the Door" is just a thoroughly rocking tune. That riff stuck in my head like Dinty Moore to a rib. And I like the vocals on the "swooshy" version especially. So Carl, any ideas for a follow-up mp3 extravaganza? C'mon, if Frank Black can record albums on 2-Track.... ;-) Brian OB Scary Solo Intro> "Tear your throat out!" P.S. Do you recommend a particular sHeavy album? Does the new album have anything as good as Supa Hero? > Cheers, > Carl > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:scylding at carlaz.com > http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Feb 8 14:30:23 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:30:23 -0000 Subject: HW live album Message-ID: RE: BOC Some possible stuffthta was scheduled to come out as part of the live double CD trilogy beginning with '1999 Tour' and continuing with 'Atomhenge' although 'Atomhenge wasn't rhe one that EMI had, and ending with Edmonton whihc I presume, and Bernard will no doubt correct me if it isn't, a 'Warrior' tour date one. Maybe one day EMI will see fit........ Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: Colm McWilliams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:03 PM Subject: Re: BOC Some possible stuff To be honest though I wouldn't mind a live album covering the warrior on the edge of time tour. I think that someone on this list mentioned this already. Colm -----Original Message----- From: Ted Jackson [mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] Sent: 08 February 2001 11:53 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: BOC Some possible stuff On 7 Feb 01, at 18:11, Nick English wrote: > > I know I'd love a live CD with > > the current lineup. > > > My feelings are mixed on this. If it doesn't interfere > with the generation and output of new material, then I > say go for it. But if, for instance, our choice for > 2002 or 2003 would be live album or new studio album, > give me the new studio. Oh, absolutely! There's just been too many > years with too little fresh material. Perhaps I'm > being greedy, but so be it!!! One new album in 10 years? You're not greedy! theo *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Feb 8 14:35:03 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:35:03 -0000 Subject: HW:Nik Turner Message-ID: OK - for got to mention the vital bit - it was late!!!! - the Capt Lockheed is on BGO not UA and has this black LP sized booklet (only a few pages) with lyrics in it stapled (or whatever they did) inside the fold-out cover. Dunno if it's rare or what, but it's only about ?7.99 and as I said we have ten of 'em. Exchange for something if you want one, Doug! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Pearson" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:20 PM Subject: Re: HW:Nik Turner limericks > >Also, a really bizarre thing - we have come upon ten brand new copies of > >Captain Lockheed Lp on vinyl - fold out cover, inner lyric sheets and all - > >so anyone here interested, better contact me ASAP as they will go right > >rapid, as they say up north. > > On United Artists (or BGO - I thought the BGO reissue had the gatefold but > not the lyric booklet)?!? Damn! That's a find! > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Feb 8 14:40:21 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:40:21 -0000 Subject: HW: Mission COntrol, and Cyberphobia Message-ID: that's what I thought - what's going on? Andy Garibaldi P.S. Isn't that new live King Crimson triple CD just DREADFUL - what HAS happened to this band!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jermy" To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:18 PM Subject: HW: Mission COntrol, and Cyberphobia > Hey folks, > is it just me or is there no new announcement on Mission Control? From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Feb 8 16:43:10 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:43:10 GMT Subject: OFF: Dreadful KC (-the sunshine band) Message-ID: > that's what I thought - what's going on? > Andy Garibaldi > P.S. Isn't that new live King Crimson triple CD just DREADFUL - what HAS > happened to this band!!!!! intsersting opinion.... i kinda dug the new stuff, i was impressed with how similar the Construction of light tracks sounded like their live versions 9visa versa?) and Heroes was strange... new wrods and such. It has its weak spots. it just doesnt sound like a live ablum... ineed OYForOYK... thats a live album. Jason --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Feb 8 16:52:43 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:52:43 -0600 Subject: HW: Mission COntrol, and Cyberphobia In-Reply-To: <00ac01c09219$db9cd4e0$8297bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: Mission COntrol, and Cyberphobia : :that's what I thought - what's going on? :Andy Garibaldi I saw updates to mission control, just way-the-heck down on the page. (providing, of course, that this is new, and not just old that I missed) Specifically the "On the Ether" section: Canterbury Festival - August , Aldershot April 1st, Nottingham April 2nd - whatever can these dates and places mean? - more data to follow soon.... Chrysalis TV will soon broadcast a programme on Channel 4 (UK) featuring Hawkwind. The 'Top Ten' prog featuring HW will be aired in March on Channel 4. The series has already begun, and the Top Ten of progressive rock is to be programme number 7, and it aires at 9.00pm..... We may be doing a two/three day Hawkwind festival in the Lake District area in the summer... there is also a possibility of hiring a holiday camp.... a kind of Hawkwind weekend getaway..... stay tuned....... [Let's hear it for a holiday camp/Hawkwind weekend getaway!!! -- Arin] There is also the possibility of some gigs in France in May 2001...... We will be holding a live online IRC question and answer session soon.... more details to follow as soon as tests are completed....... An Hawkwind trivia quiz will be online soon too..... A documentary by the BBC (UK) is still in the pipeline.......... The "The Hawkwind Chronicles" book is now completed; awaiting more data. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 8 17:03:49 2001 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:03:49 EST Subject: BOC Set list 01/25/01 Message-ID: In a message dated 02/08/2001 12:06:33 AM Central Standard Time, CultJacket at AOL.COM writes: > Ric, > I've seen shows like this. For some reason it always seems to be the > ones I drive 4 hrs for.Uggggggh > Anway there was a report about this show. It was said that the opening band > was scratched and BOC took the stage an hour or so early and lots of folks > missed most of the show. This would be enough to tick me off. Buck said that > the club called them at like 7:30 and said get down here your going on > now,and they put a time limit on their show to wrap it up in under 90 > mins......I cant figure that out. Dont clubs wanna keep you there longer so > they can sale you more booze? > Bummer since they dont play OK that much. > Thanks for the response, Chris. I called the afternoon of the show to find out what time as it was a 2 hour drive. I was told that the doors open at 7:00 and the band would take the stage around 8:00/8:30. She said there was no opening band unless BOC brought one. I arrived at 8:10, bought a spare ticket (for $5.00!!) from someone who who had friends that didn't make it, hit the bathroom and when I walked out, I heard the Blade Runner intro. Went in, watched the show, left and drove 2 hours back home. BTW, the show was at the Lucky Star casino, an Indian gaming place 30 minutes outside Oklahoma City. Indian gaming facilities around here seldom sell alcohol. 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URL: From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Feb 8 17:27:56 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:27:56 -0500 Subject: HW: Finest Moments In-Reply-To: ; from Chuckrecs@AOL.COM on Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 11:44:23AM -0500 Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 11:44:23AM -0500, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > ---not really...just that he "flicked a switch" on his guitar or something, > to enhance the sound already coming forth...but i have no idea... Delatron Processor, perhaps? :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: Is there anything in astrology? Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm naturally skeptical. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Feb 8 17:48:50 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:48:50 -0500 Subject: OFF: Cyberphobia Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:26:56 +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >Hey, check these guys out on MP3.com: http://www.mp3.com/Cyberphobia/ Thanks for the tip! Pretty good stuff ... >Jon Jarrett just pointed me to them, and they're quite good IMO. >Industrial-tinged spacerock. Kinda reminds me of Sons of Selina meets >Born to Go in a way. I can *definitely* see the Born To Go comparison, both sonically and lyrically (that Bob influence!). Cyberphobia only fall short in terms of the synth work (but it would take something like a Doug Walker / Grant Richter tag team to best "nomuzic" & the "professor") and the @#$^#$ drum machine. Even a well-programmed drum machine screams "cheezy demo" to me in the same way that overuse of digital reverb (ooh! I just got a MIDIverb!) does ... (but we're talking about a one-man project, so you can't have everything, so I should just shut up!). Definitely worth mentioning the good stuff on mp3.com to the list IMO ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Feb 8 18:17:47 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:17:47 -0500 Subject: OFF: Scylding (was Re: Cyberphobia) Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:31:14 -0500, Brian Halligan wrote: >> K Henderson muses: >>>> http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ >>> >>> And then there's this collection of fools that put up their (otherwise) >>> unreleased stuff. I guess I'll have to figure out the whole mp3 thing >>> now that I have a computer with sound. Well worth it IMO ... >Carl replies: >> Oh, you don't want to mess with those recordings! It's just a bunch >> of suspect spacerock with sound quality rivaled only by dodgy Dave >> Anderson recordings :) > >I've just been getting into mp3.com lately, and I've found that amid the >muck, and a sneaking suspicion it was recorded with a single microphone on >the other side of town, "Wolf At the Door" is just a thoroughly rocking >tune ... Yeah, very nice heavy, riffy rock. GREAT drumming from mr. DASLUD <> (if only it was more audible on "Ossian's Way", especially since there's the cool drum break in the middle)! What kind of wah pedal are you using there, Carl? The sound quality isn't even THAT bad (although it would definitely benefit from a more proper "mixing", as the website even says "We haven't ever managed to mix the tracks (!)"). >So Carl, any ideas for a follow-up mp3 extravaganza? C'mon, if Frank Black >can record albums on 2-Track.... ;-) Not to mention the likes of Pavement or Guided By Voices back when they were a lot more interesting than they are now (damn, I feel old!). Given the choice between "good music" and "good sound quality", I'll always pick the former ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From tclark at PETRONET.NET Thu Feb 8 18:24:09 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:24:09 -0600 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: There once was a Hawk named Huw On guitar, he can play quite a lick or two. Went to Brixton to play, Got smashed on the way, Ended up sounding like kakapoo! (just had to throw my two cents in!) Nick Medford wrote: > There once was a feller named Huw > Who was fond of a beverage or two > He turned up at Brixton > Totally blitzed on > A cocktail of ganja and brew. From blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US Thu Feb 8 18:39:02 2001 From: blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US (Brad M. Lauchnor) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:39:02 -0700 Subject: BOC: Another bootleg tree, a little different this time. Message-ID: It has been long enough since the last BOC tree! I have a great bootleg that has been around for a while but is such great quality that I want to make sure everyone gets a copy. I traded for this during the last tree and can't remember who I traded with :( but whoever it was - THANKS! This bootleg is the infamous "The Thing!" The show is excellent and much like ETL. It was recorded live June 18, 1981 in New York City. The track list- DISC 1 1. Dr. Music 2. ETI 3. Burnin' For You 4. Fire of Unknown Origin 5. Cities on Flame* 6. Joan Crawford 7. Flaming Telepaths 8. Veterans* 9. Hot Rails to Hell DISC 2 1. ME 262 2. Heavy Metal 3. Reaper 4. Godzilla 5. Born to be Wild 6. 5 Guitar Jam 7. Roadhouse Blues This tree will be a little different than last time. Since we have so few people that end up getting these shows last time, I will record them for ANYONE that wants a copy. Here is what you will have to do: 1) Email me at lauchnor at hotmail.com and ask for a copy. I'll send you my snail mail address. 2) Send me 2 blank cdr's and enough return postage to get the discs back to you. If you ship w/o jewel cases in a small padded mailer postage will run you about $0.76. 3) Wait by the mailbox 4) Open the package and enjoy. If you have any questions let me know. I am on digest. Thanks, Brad L. From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Feb 8 18:41:21 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:41:21 -0000 Subject: OFF: Psychedelic music Message-ID: http://user.tninet.se/~prv247p/hatt/hatten.swf Presented without comment... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 8 18:48:04 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:18:04 +1030 Subject: HW: bee hive related Message-ID: Yes - thank you sir i would have had it spelled all wrong - cheers Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: K Henderson To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 3:00 AM Subject: Re: HW: bee hive related > MB asked... > > >Is Jims last name spelled with an S or a Z in it > > > >wanting to update the pix > > Are you talking about Jim Lascko? > > Grakkl (FAA) > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Feb 8 19:24:07 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:24:07 -0000 Subject: OFF: Dreadful KC (-the sunshine band) Message-ID: I have to admit that next to 'Construkction' which I LOVED, the live one seems positively flat - ah well, that's KC for you. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bolts of Ungodly Vision" To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: OFF: Dreadful KC (-the sunshine band) > > that's what I thought - what's going on? > > Andy Garibaldi > > P.S. Isn't that new live King Crimson triple CD just DREADFUL - what HAS > > happened to this band!!!!! > intsersting opinion.... i kinda dug the new stuff, i was impressed with how > similar the Construction of light tracks sounded like their live versions 9visa > versa?) and Heroes was strange... new wrods and such. > > It has its weak spots. it just doesnt sound like a live ablum... ineed > OYForOYK... thats a live album. > > Jason > > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. > http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Feb 8 19:26:33 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:26:33 -0000 Subject: HW: Mission COntrol, and Cyberphobia Message-ID: now I thought all that was around last time or am I getting the grapevine early - either way still all a bit non-committal although this weekend is number three of the top ten series if I'm counting orrectly so not long to go...... Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:52 PM Subject: Re: HW: Mission COntrol, and Cyberphobia > On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > > :Subject: Re: HW: Mission COntrol, and Cyberphobia > : > :that's what I thought - what's going on? > :Andy Garibaldi > > I saw updates to mission control, just way-the-heck down on the page. > (providing, of course, that this is new, and not just old that I missed) > > Specifically the "On the Ether" section: > > Canterbury Festival - August , Aldershot April 1st, Nottingham April 2nd - > whatever can these dates and places mean? - more data to follow soon.... > > Chrysalis TV will soon broadcast a programme on Channel 4 (UK) featuring > Hawkwind. The 'Top Ten' prog featuring HW will be aired in March on Channel > 4. The series has already begun, and the Top Ten of progressive > rock is to be programme number 7, and it aires at 9.00pm..... > > We may be doing a two/three day Hawkwind festival in the Lake District > area in the summer... there is also a possibility of hiring a holiday > camp.... a kind of Hawkwind weekend getaway..... stay tuned....... > > [Let's hear it for a holiday camp/Hawkwind weekend getaway!!! -- Arin] > > There is also the possibility of some gigs in France in May 2001...... > > We will be holding a live online IRC question and answer session soon.... > more details to follow as soon as tests are completed....... > > An Hawkwind trivia quiz will be online soon too..... > > A documentary by the BBC (UK) is still in the pipeline.......... > > The "The Hawkwind Chronicles" book is now completed; awaiting more > data. > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Feb 8 19:07:28 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:07:28 -0500 Subject: BOC: Another bootleg tree, a little different this time. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Brad M. Lauchnor wrote: => It has been long enough since the last BOC tree! I have a great => bootleg that has been around for a while but is such great quality => that I want to make sure everyone gets a copy. I traded for this => during the last tree and can't remember who I traded with :( but => whoever it was - THANKS! This bootleg is the infamous "The Thing!" Um... that would be me. I'm glad this is seeing the light of day; it's a great bootleg, and well worth a listen! Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET Thu Feb 8 19:15:26 2001 From: mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET (Mark Robertson) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:15:26 -0000 Subject: OFF: Psychedelic music Message-ID: Watched with open mouth... Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gilham" To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:41 PM Subject: OFF: Psychedelic music > http://user.tninet.se/~prv247p/hatt/hatten.swf > > Presented without comment... > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Thu Feb 8 20:27:37 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 01:27:37 +0000 Subject: HW: On The Ether In-Reply-To: <200102072215.RAA27628@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hey Mr Rik RX How many more "next few days" will we be waiting for the following on mission control. 1) Audio/Video Clips of Hawkestra 2) Synopsis of Hi's & Lo's of Hawkxmas. Its a great website....but the HW camp seem to be forever wetting our appetite with promises of 'this & that'........"within the next few days", but none of which seems to materialise. ????????? mel. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 8 20:31:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:01:27 +1030 Subject: HW: On The Ether Message-ID: its time for a revolution what do we want!!!!! --------- when do we want it NOW!! tee hee MB ----- Original Message ----- From: Melvyn Vincent To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:57 AM Subject: Re: HW: On The Ether > Hey Mr Rik RX > > How many more "next few days" will we be waiting for the following on > mission control. > > 1) Audio/Video Clips of Hawkestra > 2) Synopsis of Hi's & Lo's of Hawkxmas. > > Its a great website....but the HW camp seem to be forever wetting our > appetite with promises of 'this & that'........"within the next few days", > but none of which seems to materialise. > > ????????? > > mel. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Feb 8 20:44:35 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:44:35 -0500 Subject: HW: Film Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:49:31 -0000, Wright, Mike wrote: >I was watching 'Any given sunday' (Oliver Stone's films about american >fotball, with Al Pacino and Cameron Diaz) last weekend, and was glazing >over watching the credits roll past, when (and please correct me if this >was all a sleep deprivation induced fantasy) during the music credits up >sneaks Lifeform, performed and written by Dave Brock. I was hugely >surprised at this, but felt there were at least 3 other people in the >world who would be interested in this, so I'm hoping they're reading this. Damn! This movie has been showing on HBO recently; I actually saw it twice (it's not a very good film IMO, so I wasn't paying that much attention anyway), but missed the credits. While we're on the subject, this is from a review of the Dargio Argento film 'Phenomenon' aka 'Creepers' (1984), that I just ran across at: http://www.darkdreams.org/darkdreams.html "Argento's sloppy concoction is held together in part by crystal clear, almost black and white photography and some great music by the usual team of Claudio Simonetti and Goblin. Other contributions by Hawkwind, Iron Maiden and Andi Sex Gang are intrusive and deflate any suspense Argento is trying to build." There are apparently two "edits" of the movie, one considerably shorter (the one I've seen) than the other, so I assume the Hawkwind music (if this is indeed correct) is only in the longer edit. Has anyone seen the longer edit (and noticed any Hawkwind music)? BTW "Lord of the Hornets" would have been a perfect song to use in this movie, since it's about a teenage girl who can telepathically control insects ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 8 21:12:24 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:42:24 +1030 Subject: HW regarding cover songs & a silver washing machine Message-ID: Hey Captain K - Nice work - sounds like you have some nice toys there to play with!! Check em out hawk doodz http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ I've got one there as well (Ha!) Mb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Feb 8 23:26:16 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:26:16 -0700 Subject: Psychedelic music In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Farfukkinout. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Andy Gilham Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 4:41 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Psychedelic music http://user.tninet.se/~prv247p/hatt/hatten.swf Presented without comment... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Feb 9 00:24:49 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:24:49 -0700 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk In-Reply-To: <009c01c0913e$4b9f39e0$ae1428d5@starfield> Message-ID: If anyone out there doesn't have Starfield's "Return To Earth" yet, you want it. You really want it. Granted, it's no "Space Ritual" remake, and the credits don't list a paper-and-comb player, but it's fantastic. Get it. Do it now. It's that good. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:43 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Sommers To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:47 PM Subject: HW: The newest Hawk > Hello Captain Bl at ck---- > Inquiring minds want to know: > -What is your musical background/history? * I started playing Kazoo when I was about 12 and graduated from there. > -How did you come to join Hawkwind? * My guesting at Brixton and Astoria was a prize for winning the 'Funniest Nik Turner Lymeric Competition'. > -What's next for Starfield? * A ?50,000 advance from EMI to re-record Space Ritual using just a paper and comb. > -What's next for Hawkwind? * Well this is just between you and me, but I hear Dave's to be formally recognized in the Queen's birthday honours list, and Richard is to set up an Indian Takeaway Reservation in Bath after winning ?4,000,000 on the National Lottery. > -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? * Dunno, do you know any spare chicks? > > KevinSommers From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Fri Feb 9 04:04:49 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 02:04:49 -0700 Subject: HW: Weird Cd's Message-ID: Hi all! I mistakenly deleted the link for the site on which to purchase these. Please, send it my way again? Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Message-ID: In article <200102090144.UAA04567 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:49:31 -0000, Wright, Mike wrote: >>I was watching 'Any given sunday' (Oliver Stone's films about american >>fotball, with Al Pacino and Cameron Diaz) last weekend, and was glazing >>over watching the credits roll past, when (and please correct me if this >>was all a sleep deprivation induced fantasy) during the music credits up >>sneaks Lifeform, performed and written by Dave Brock. I was hugely >>surprised at this, but felt there were at least 3 other people in the >>world who would be interested in this, so I'm hoping they're reading this. > >Damn! This movie has been showing on HBO recently; I actually saw it twice >(it's not a very good film IMO, so I wasn't paying that much attention >anyway), but missed the credits. > >While we're on the subject, this is from a review of the Dargio Argento >film 'Phenomenon' aka 'Creepers' (1984), that I just ran across at: > >http://www.darkdreams.org/darkdreams.html > >"Argento's sloppy concoction is held together in part by crystal clear, >almost black and white photography and some great music by the usual team >of Claudio Simonetti and Goblin. Other contributions by Hawkwind, Iron >Maiden and Andi Sex Gang are intrusive and deflate any suspense Argento is >trying to build." > >There are apparently two "edits" of the movie, one considerably shorter >(the one I've seen) than the other, so I assume the Hawkwind music (if this >is indeed correct) is only in the longer edit. Has anyone seen the longer >edit (and noticed any Hawkwind music)? > >BTW "Lord of the Hornets" would have been a perfect song to use in this >movie, since it's about a teenage girl who can telepathically control >insects ... I haven't seen either version, but there is a soundtrack listing on the internet movie database (http://us.imdb.com/Soundtracks?0087909). No Hawkwind, but there is one Motorhead track. (Locomotive) -- David Blair From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Feb 9 04:10:01 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:10:01 +0000 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: So, what's all this then? What's so good about it?? Layla. >>> novadrive at HOME.COM 02/09/01 05:24am >>> If anyone out there doesn't have Starfield's "Return To Earth" yet, you want it. You really want it. Granted, it's no "Space Ritual" remake, and the credits don't list a paper-and-comb player, but it's fantastic. Get it. Do it now. It's that good. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:43 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Sommers To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:47 PM Subject: HW: The newest Hawk > Hello Captain Bl at ck---- > Inquiring minds want to know: > -What is your musical background/history? * I started playing Kazoo when I was about 12 and graduated from there. > -How did you come to join Hawkwind? * My guesting at Brixton and Astoria was a prize for winning the 'Funniest Nik Turner Lymeric Competition'. > -What's next for Starfield? * A #50,000 advance from EMI to re-record Space Ritual using just a paper and comb. > -What's next for Hawkwind? * Well this is just between you and me, but I hear Dave's to be formally recognized in the Queen's birthday honours list, and Richard is to set up an Indian Takeaway Reservation in Bath after winning #4,000,000 on the National Lottery. > -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? * Dunno, do you know any spare chicks? > > KevinSommers From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 04:41:40 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 04:41:40 -0500 Subject: Croydon (fao Kris or Dave in particular) Message-ID: Does anyone else have a ticket for the Croydon gig which names Tim Blake as the support act? Last night, I happened to mention to Tim that I was looking forward to his set at Croydon and his reply was along the lines of "Croydon? Is there something I don't know about?" Perhaps Kris or Dave would clarify if Tim is the support for Croydon and, if he is, possibly let him know! Also, Tim asked me to let Dave and Kris know that he would like to spend a lot more time playing with Hawkwind. Cheers, COLIN From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 05:00:37 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:00:37 -0000 Subject: HW live album Message-ID: theres another atomhenge live recording other than the voiceprint one? What happened to the EMi schedule then? Did the plans to release more hawkwind live stuff fall by the way side because of poor sales? colm thta was scheduled to come out as part of the live double CD trilogy beginning with '1999 Tour' and continuing with 'Atomhenge' although 'Atomhenge wasn't rhe one that EMI had, and ending with Edmonton whihc I presume, and Bernard will no doubt correct me if it isn't, a 'Warrior' tour date one. Maybe one day EMI will see fit........ Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: Colm McWilliams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:03 PM Subject: Re: BOC Some possible stuff To be honest though I wouldn't mind a live album covering the warrior on the edge of time tour. I think that someone on this list mentioned this already. Colm -----Original Message----- From: Ted Jackson [ mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU ] Sent: 08 February 2001 11:53 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: BOC Some possible stuff On 7 Feb 01, at 18:11, Nick English wrote: > > I know I'd love a live CD with > > the current lineup. > > > My feelings are mixed on this. If it doesn't interfere > with the generation and output of new material, then I > say go for it. But if, for instance, our choice for > 2002 or 2003 would be live album or new studio album, > give me the new studio. Oh, absolutely! There's just been too many > years with too little fresh material. Perhaps I'm > being greedy, but so be it!!! One new album in 10 years? You're not greedy! theo *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Fri Feb 9 05:37:32 2001 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:37:32 +0000 Subject: HW:Nik Turner limericks Message-ID: As well as Dave I think you should apologise to Edward Lear (for killing the limmerick) and everyone on boc-l ....... M at xine Date sent: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:24:48 +0000 From: Richard Cutting/JHC Subject: Re: HW:Nik Turner limericks > Apologies to Dave B but I couldn't resist it..... > > The leader of Hawkwind is Brock > Who even though ancient can rock > With guitar in hand and craggy face > He leads the band through outer space > And to all their gigs we flock ! > > ?...I'll get me coat?..... Very wise.... From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 05:40:50 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 05:40:50 -0500 Subject: Croydon (fao Kris or Dave in particular) Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 04:41:40 -0500, Colin Allen wrote: >Does anyone else have a ticket for the Croydon gig which names Tim Blake as >the support act? Yes. Although if it's wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. My tickets for Gong earlier this year promised Here And Now as the support, but come the night they were nowhere to be seen. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 05:59:17 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 05:59:17 -0500 Subject: Croydon (fao Kris or Dave in particular) Message-ID: As Tim knows nothing about it, it looks like yet another piece of chaos has made its way into the organisation(?) of a Hawkwind gig! Oh well, after 25 years of following them I should be used to it! On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 05:40:50 -0500, Nick Medford wrote: >On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 04:41:40 -0500, Colin Allen > wrote: > >>Does anyone else have a ticket for the Croydon gig which names Tim Blake as >>the support act? > >Yes. > >Although if it's wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. My tickets for Gong >earlier this year promised Here And Now as the support, but come the night >they were nowhere to be seen. From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 06:00:26 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:00:26 -0000 Subject: A Question on Bootlegs Message-ID: Having recently acquired some bootlegs of hawkwind gigs through trading. I was wondering what the views of people on this mailing list was on individuals selling bootlegs cd's or tapes? 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URL: From bart at ENGAGE.NU Fri Feb 9 06:04:42 2001 From: bart at ENGAGE.NU (Bart Brugmans) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:04:42 +0100 Subject: A Question on Bootlegs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, afaic selling is bad and tradin is good. --BArt On 9 Feb 2001, at 11:00, Colm McWilliams wrote: Date sent: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:00:26 -0000 Send reply to: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List From: Colm McWilliams Subject: A Question on Bootlegs To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Having recently acquired some bootlegs of hawkwind gigs through > trading. I was wondering what the views of people on this mailing list > was on individuals selling bootlegs cd's or tapes? Also does anyone > know Hawkwinds view on this subject, are they happy with fans trading > and/or selling bootlegs? > > thanks > > Colm > > > *********************************************************** > This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, > copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received > it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and > attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. > From ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO Fri Feb 9 05:06:42 2001 From: ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO (Ketil Svendsen) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:06:42 +0200 Subject: Lemmy: Message-ID: while searching for something else in my web-savvy sherlock on my mac, this popped up: http://www.kabalarians.com/male/lemmy.htm what can one say...? :-) ketil svendsen (who, according to the same poeple, seem to have a "quick, active mind" ...they can't have seen me this morning ;-) From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Feb 9 06:38:21 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:38:21 +0800 Subject: OFF: Psychedelic music Message-ID: Excellent!! More please. Hope they tour soon. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gilham" To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 7:41 AM Subject: OFF: Psychedelic music > http://user.tninet.se/~prv247p/hatt/hatten.swf > > Presented without comment... > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Fri Feb 9 06:54:47 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:54:47 +1300 Subject: OFF: Psychedelic music In-Reply-To: <013401c0927b$94074130$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk> Message-ID: Regards Hey I like the hatte ... one size fits all. We bin hatte or should we throw it in the hatte bin !! Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Richard Lockwood > Sent: Friday, 9 February 2001 10:35 p.m. > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: Psychedelic music > > > And for that we thank you!!! > > ROTFLMAO! > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > http://user.tninet.se/~prv247p/hatt/hatten.swf > > > > Presented without comment... > > > > -- Andy > > > > www.andygilham.co > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Feb 9 06:52:19 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:52:19 +0800 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: Kevin said: > If anyone out there doesn't have Starfield's "Return To Earth" yet, you want > it. You really want it. > Granted, it's no "Space Ritual" remake, and the credits don't list a > paper-and-comb player, but it's fantastic. > Get it. Do it now. It's that good. Starfield and Tim Blake's "Tide of the Century" are brilliant! My top two cd's of the moment. Bill From pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 07:02:43 2001 From: pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Peter Wibrew) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:02:43 -0000 Subject: A Question on Bootlegs Message-ID: Hi Sentiments seconded, I believe trading is the way to go, sharing is the key. In fact I answered a mail asking if anyone wants an astoria boot and it turns out that they want to sell it for a tenner, that IMO STINKS!!! I desperatley want the whole astoria show but will not pay for a boot of it, I don't care how cheap it is. Peter http://www.geocities.com/pwibrew/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Bart Brugmans To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:04 AM Subject: Re: A Question on Bootlegs > Hi, > > afaic selling is bad and tradin is good. > > --BArt > > > On 9 Feb 2001, at 11:00, Colm McWilliams wrote: > > Date sent: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:00:26 -0000 > Send reply to: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > From: Colm McWilliams > Subject: A Question on Bootlegs > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > Having recently acquired some bootlegs of hawkwind gigs through > > trading. I was wondering what the views of people on this mailing list > > was on individuals selling bootlegs cd's or tapes? Also does anyone > > know Hawkwinds view on this subject, are they happy with fans trading > > and/or selling bootlegs? > > > > thanks > > > > Colm > > > > > > *********************************************************** > > This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, > > copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received > > it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and > > attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 9 07:15:17 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:15:17 GMT Subject: RE; Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space In-Reply-To: Colin Allen's message of Fri, 9 Feb 2001 04:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: Colin Allen writes: > Does anyone else have a ticket for the Croydon gig which names Tim Blake as > the support act? > > Last night, I happened to mention to Tim that I was looking forward to his > set at Croydon and his reply was along the lines of "Croydon? Is there > something I don't know about?" Perhaps Kris or Dave would clarify if Tim is > the support for Croydon and, if he is, possibly let him know! > > Also, Tim asked me to let Dave and Kris know that he would like to spend a > lot more time playing with Hawkwind. Speaking of Tim Blake. I had a chat to him at Hawkmas and he said that he had a good copy of the "Waterfalls In Space" tape that's been booted around (though no good quality recordings that I've ever heard of) since 1978. This one was being hawked by GAS at one point in the last couple of decades and is a live tape from the 1978 tour and features several variations on the New Jerusalem theme, mostly without lyrics. Tim said that he'd release it if he could find a way to do so that would cover costs and not involve massive effort. Maybe if we put something together for him then he could be persuaded? How many other Blake fans would be after a CD or CDR release of this? Who's currently in contact with Tim and could liase? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 9 07:17:04 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:17:04 GMT Subject: Croydon (fao Kris or Dave in particular) In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Fri, 9 Feb 2001 05:40:50 -0500 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > Although if it's wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. My tickets for Gong > earlier this year promised Here And Now as the support, but come the night > they were nowhere to be seen. That'll be the famous Gong Spinoff: "Somewhere Else and Later" FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Feb 9 07:56:49 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 23:26:49 +1030 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: Its SHAGADELIC baaaaby Ohhh behave ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Sommers To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 3:54 PM Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > If anyone out there doesn't have Starfield's "Return To Earth" yet, you want > it. You really want it. > Granted, it's no "Space Ritual" remake, and the credits don't list a > paper-and-comb player, but it's fantastic. > Get it. Do it now. It's that good. > > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:43 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kevin Sommers > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:47 PM > Subject: HW: The newest Hawk > > > > Hello Captain Bl at ck---- > > Inquiring minds want to know: > > -What is your musical background/history? > > * I started playing Kazoo when I was about 12 and graduated from there. > > > -How did you come to join Hawkwind? > > * My guesting at Brixton and Astoria was a prize for winning the 'Funniest > Nik Turner Lymeric Competition'. > > > -What's next for Starfield? > > * A ?50,000 advance from EMI to re-record Space Ritual using just a paper > and comb. > > > -What's next for Hawkwind? > > * Well this is just between you and me, but I hear Dave's to be formally > recognized in the Queen's birthday honours list, and Richard is to set up an > Indian Takeaway Reservation in Bath after winning ?4,000,000 on the National > Lottery. > > > -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? > > * Dunno, do you know any spare chicks? > > > > > KevinSommers > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Feb 9 08:10:50 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 23:40:50 +1030 Subject: HW Hawkwind trippy news flash Message-ID: Have you heard the rumour tagged onto the upcoming festival???? 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URL: From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 9 08:06:25 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 08:06:25 -0500 Subject: A Question on Bootlegs In-Reply-To: <001d01c09290$368055a0$b68975c2@e1r6d4> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Peter Wibrew wrote: => Sentiments seconded, I believe trading is the way to go, sharing is the key. => In fact I answered a mail asking if anyone wants an astoria boot and it => turns out that they want to sell it for a tenner, that IMO STINKS!!! I => desperatley want the whole astoria show but will not pay for a boot of it, I => don't care how cheap it is. I also echo the "selling is bad; trading is good" sentiment. But, I'll go one further, and say that I even think it is bad for people to ask for multiple extra media (e.g., 2-for-1, or even more blanks) for a show. This is against all published band "trading policies" that I know of, and is just a hidden way of charging for a show. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 09:01:12 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:01:12 +0000 Subject: Croydon (fao Kris or Dave in particular) In-Reply-To: <200102091217.MAA14103@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <200102091217.MAA14103 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >> Although if it's wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. My tickets for Gong >> earlier this year promised Here And Now as the support, but come the night >> they were nowhere to be seen. > >That'll be the famous Gong Spinoff: "Somewhere Else and Later" > >FoFP Always found it interesting that Here & Now released their "UFOasis" album a full three years before Oasis released "Be Here Now". Of course MOJO and UNCUT both dismissed my theory, that Oasis were just a Here & Now rip-off outfit, as the musings of an idiot. There you go, eh. -- Jon From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 09:36:28 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:36:28 -0500 Subject: A Question on Bootlegs Message-ID: See http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/1831/brock.html for an interview with Dave B which includes his views on bootlegs. To summarise: trading OK, selling not OK. From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Feb 9 10:29:00 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:29:00 +0000 Subject: where has it gone!!!! Message-ID: Can someone please tell me the address of the Hawkwind web page. Cause I can't remember the address, and I can't find it through any search engines!! Please and thank you!! (ASAP if you can!!?) Layla From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Feb 9 10:48:57 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:48:57 -0000 Subject: where has it gone!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well you can probably guess www.hawkwind.com (and Google gets you straight there anyway); for Dave's new page which has more up to date news, www.hawkwind.org.uk -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Layla Thompson > Sent: 09 February 2001 15:29 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: where has it gone!!!! > > > Can someone please tell me the address of the Hawkwind web page. > Cause I can't remember the address, and I can't find it through > any search engines!! > > Please and thank you!! (ASAP if you can!!?) > > > > Layla > > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Feb 9 10:52:42 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:52:42 -0600 Subject: where has it gone!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Layla Thompson wrote: :Subject: where has it gone!!!! : :Can someone please tell me the address of the Hawkwind web page. Cause I can't remember the address, and I can't find it through any search engines!! : :Please and thank you!! (ASAP if you can!!?) Layla, Mission Control is at http://www.hawkwind.org.uk/ Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 11:35:59 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:35:59 -0500 Subject: RE; Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space Message-ID: I will let him know of that idea; perhaps we could just tree it? Regards, COLIN >Speaking of Tim Blake. I had a chat to him at Hawkmas and he said that >he had a good copy of the "Waterfalls In Space" tape that's been booted >around (though no good quality recordings that I've ever heard of) since >1978. This one was being hawked by GAS at one point in the last couple >of decades and is a live tape from the 1978 tour and features several >variations on the New Jerusalem theme, mostly without lyrics. > >Tim said that he'd release it if he could find a way to do so that would >cover costs and not involve massive effort. Maybe if we put something >together for him then he could be persuaded? How many other Blake fans >would be after a CD or CDR release of this? > >Who's currently in contact with Tim and could liase? > >FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 9 11:42:44 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:42:44 GMT Subject: RE; Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space In-Reply-To: Colin Allen's message of Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:35:59 -0500 Message-ID: Colin Allen writes: > I will let him know of that idea; perhaps we could just tree it? Sure, though I'd guess Tim will want to be paid his due so it could involve collecting cash for him too. The other option would be to put it out on Hawkwind's own label, but that would probably take forever. So yeah, see what Tim thinks and I'll help organise a tree to get it out. Cheers Mike From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Fri Feb 9 12:11:51 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:11:51 EST Subject: HW:Ron and generator Message-ID: On the subject of mission control....will someone please explain the story about Ron playing the death Generator...I missed last Glastonbury. I've asked before with no replies, but, apart from the comic book and the aborted Ledge of darkness project what is this allegedly playable death generator, Did Ron really play it at glastonbury and what does it sound like? Irritatingly curious about cryptic entries on Mission control Al From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 12:20:26 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:20:26 -0000 Subject: Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space Message-ID: Mike wrote: >Tim said that he'd release it if he could find a way to do so that would >cover costs and not involve massive effort. Maybe if we put something >together for him then he could be persuaded? How many other Blake fans >would be after a CD or CDR release of this? Well, you can definitely count me in on this. I've had a (dodgy) copy of this tape for years and have to say that it contains some of Tim's best ever work (IMHO). In fact, I *was* just about to transfer this to CDR myself, but if there's a better quality tape out there.........& I'm happy to help in any way possible. What were you thinking of - a CDR tree or something more formalised? Perhaps Keith can advise after is experiences with the Starfield CDR (which I really, really must buy soon)? But maybe Voiceprint can be persuaded to give this a full release? Or would this not cover costs & not involve massive effort? I mean, VP can hardly reject the idea on the grounds of the (poor) sound quality, given the fact that they've been happy to put out such nuggets as "Live at Glastonbury 1990" & "Complete 79" in the past, now can they? Just a thought. Incidentally, I noticed that Tim's "Tide of the Century" hasn't generated that much discussion on-list. FWIW, I think it's excellent, surprisingly so after the relative disappointment of "Magick". Highly recommended, anyway. Dave From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Feb 9 12:22:55 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:22:55 EST Subject: A Question on Bootlegs Message-ID: Colm, I just received an offer to buy cdr's of the Astoria gig. I'm 100% against this. With trading, and no money changes hands, especially if it's not officially released material, I'm all for it. I also don't like calling tape/cdr trades "bootlegs" but the people selling this stuff are turning it into bootlegs. The best way to stomp it out is to not purchase "boots" but get them from someone on the list willing to do a trade. bob In a message dated 2/9/01 5:59:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK writes: > Having recently acquired some bootlegs of hawkwind gigs through trading. I > was wondering what the views of people on this mailing list was on > individuals selling bootlegs cd's or tapes? > Also does anyone know Hawkwinds view on this subject, are they happy with > fans trading and/or selling bootlegs? > > thanks > > Colm From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 9 12:29:42 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:29:42 GMT Subject: Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space In-Reply-To: David Bottomley's message of Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:20:26 -0000 Message-ID: David Bottomley writes: > Mike wrote: > >Tim said that he'd release it if he could find a way to do so that would > >cover costs and not involve massive effort. Maybe if we put something > >together for him then he could be persuaded? How many other Blake fans > >would be after a CD or CDR release of this? > > Well, you can definitely count me in on this. I've had a (dodgy) copy of > this tape for years and have to say that it contains some of Tim's best ever > work (IMHO). Absolutely. > In fact, I *was* just about to transfer this to CDR myself, but > if there's a better quality tape out there.........& I'm happy to help in > any way possible. What were you thinking of - a CDR tree or something more > formalised? Perhaps Keith can advise after is experiences with the Starfield > CDR (which I really, really must buy soon)? > > But maybe Voiceprint can be persuaded to give this a full release? Or would > this not cover costs & not involve massive effort? So long as Tim and Voiceprint could come to agreement sooner than they did with the Magick tour video. > I mean, VP can hardly > reject the idea on the grounds of the (poor) sound quality Tim definitely claimed he had an excellent quality tape of this. Could anyone else interested please register that interest and I'll keep a list. Obviously the more of us there are, the more convincing a case we can make to get this out. > Dave FoFP From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Feb 9 12:36:33 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:36:33 -0600 Subject: Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space In-Reply-To: <200102091729.RAA18371@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, M Holmes wrote: :Subject: Re: Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space : :Could anyone else interested please register that interest and I'll keep :a list. Obviously the more of us there are, the more convincing a case we :can make to get this out. I'll officially register my interest :-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 12:40:16 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:40:16 +0000 Subject: HW:Ron and generator Message-ID: Al Ogilvy wrote: > On the subject of mission control....will someone please explain the story > about Ron playing the death Generator...I missed last Glastonbury. > I've asked before with no replies, but, apart from the comic book and the > aborted Ledge of darkness project what is this allegedly playable death > generator, Did Ron really play it at glastonbury and what does it sound like? I missed it too but I believe its a load of EMS synths linked together. Keef From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Fri Feb 9 12:47:14 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:47:14 -0600 Subject: Off: Re: A Question on Bootlegs Message-ID: > > I also echo the "selling is bad; trading is good" sentiment. But, I'll > go one further, and say that I even think it is bad for people to ask > for multiple extra media (e.g., 2-for-1, or even more blanks) for a > show. This is against all published band "trading policies" that I know > of, and is just a hidden way of charging for a show Charging what? What's a blank disc, 90 cents? You don't think 90 cents is fair, but you expect me depreciate my cdr burner and use my gas to drive to the post office and stand in line to send you a cdr. Be realistic. From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Fri Feb 9 12:58:44 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:58:44 -0600 Subject: HW: totalrock chain monday Message-ID: I just emailed about 10 people asking for your address, please respond by Monday as I am planning making the structure then. If I didn't email you, then I have your address already. The disc will be simple wav files, just copy them to a windows based pc hard drive, then burn them in your favorite program. Then you will mail the wav disc to the next person. From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 12:58:47 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:58:47 +0000 Subject: HW:Ron and generator Message-ID: Keith Barton wrote: > Al Ogilvy wrote: > > > On the subject of mission control....will someone please explain the story > > about Ron playing the death Generator...I missed last Glastonbury. > > I've asked before with no replies, but, apart from the comic book and the > > aborted Ledge of darkness project what is this allegedly playable death > > generator, Did Ron really play it at glastonbury and what does it sound like? > > I missed it too but I believe its a load of EMS synths linked together. I meant I missed Ron playing, not Glastonbury!! Keef From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 9 13:05:10 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:05:10 -0500 Subject: Off: Re: A Question on Bootlegs In-Reply-To: <006901c092c0$56541120$9e0ee03f@m8v3c0> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Dan Witt wrote: => > I also echo the "selling is bad; trading is good" sentiment. But, I'll => > go one further, and say that I even think it is bad for people to ask => > for multiple extra media (e.g., 2-for-1, or even more blanks) for a => > show. This is against all published band "trading policies" that I know => > of, and is just a hidden way of charging for a show => => Charging what? What's a blank disc, 90 cents? You don't think 90 cents is => fair, but you expect me depreciate my cdr burner and use my gas to drive to => the post office and stand in line to send you a cdr. No, I don't "expect" you to do anything. But if you do, I am grateful for it. What difference is there between asking for extra media and asking for a tenner? (And why stop at 2-for-1 in that case?) Spreading the music is about exactly that: free exchange of music to spread it to those to whom you want to expose it. It is a free exchange. Charging for your time/depreciation is just another form of charging for the music. If you're not willing to do it freely (and I'm not saying you aren't), then don't do it. Plain and simple. Besides, in all the trading communities in which I move, N-for-1 trades are considered anathema (officially and unofficially), and you can always find plenty of people prepared to do a 1-for-1 B&P if someone were to require N-for-1. It's only those who don't know any better that fall for the ol' 2-for-1 "trade." Cheers, Paul. PS: My blanks are 60 cents (Mitsuis). :-) e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 9 13:22:49 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:22:49 GMT Subject: Off: Re: A Question on Bootlegs In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:05:10 -0500 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: >> Charging what? What's a blank disc, 90 cents? You don't think 90 >> cents is => fair, but you expect me depreciate my cdr burner and use >> my gas to drive to => the post office and stand in line to send you a >> cdr. > No, I don't "expect" you to do anything. But if you do, I am grateful > for it. > What difference is there between asking for extra media and asking for > a tenner? (And why stop at 2-for-1 in that case?) Spreading the music > is about exactly that: free exchange of music to spread it to those to > whom you want to expose it. It is a free exchange. Excellent communitarian sentiments. > Charging for your > time/depreciation is just another form of charging for the music. No, it's charging for resources used. Not everyone is a communitarian, but that doesn't mean that they're necessarily money-grubbing profiteers either (and remember that some of us are libertarians and regard the word "profit" as veledictory in many contexts). In this context, it's down to the actual price. If someone judges that the price goes so far above costs that it must necessarily be profitting from copyrighted material then they have the option to refuse the deal. They don't call it "free trade" because it's done for nothing; it's because both parties are free to say yay or nay. > If > you're not willing to do it freely (and I'm not saying you aren't), > then don't do it. Plain and simple. And somewhat authoritarian. The band's lawyers may have that power but god helpd us if the fans ever get to do much more than utter stern words of disapproval and refuse to deal. > Besides, in all the trading communities in which I move, N-for-1 > trades are considered anathema And good luck to you all. Not everyone lives in your ideological suburb though. > (officially and unofficially), and you > can always find plenty of people prepared to do a 1-for-1 B&P if > someone were to require N-for-1. It's only those who don't know any > better that fall for the ol' 2-for-1 "trade." I don't see much wrong with that. It means that people with nothing to trade get what tey want, and the other guy gets an extra tape to do more trading with someone else (or do we simply assume that the "profiteer" is always rich enough to buy as many tapes as they want?) in return for their effort. If both parties are happy with such a deal then what's it to anyone else to criticise it? > Paul. FoFP Next Week: Why Mike Should Get Beer at Cost While Barmaids Work For Free From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Feb 9 08:01:48 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 23:31:48 +1030 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: > So, what's all this then? > > What's so good about it?? Its some cool music is what ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > So, what's all this then? > > What's so good about it?? > > Layla. > > >>> novadrive at HOME.COM 02/09/01 05:24am >>> > If anyone out there doesn't have Starfield's "Return To Earth" yet, you want > it. You really want it. > Granted, it's no "Space Ritual" remake, and the credits don't list a > paper-and-comb player, but it's fantastic. > Get it. Do it now. It's that good. > > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:43 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kevin Sommers > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:47 PM > Subject: HW: The newest Hawk > > > > Hello Captain Bl at ck---- > > Inquiring minds want to know: > > -What is your musical background/history? > > * I started playing Kazoo when I was about 12 and graduated from there. > > > -How did you come to join Hawkwind? > > * My guesting at Brixton and Astoria was a prize for winning the 'Funniest > Nik Turner Lymeric Competition'. > > > -What's next for Starfield? > > * A #50,000 advance from EMI to re-record Space Ritual using just a paper > and comb. > > > -What's next for Hawkwind? > > * Well this is just between you and me, but I hear Dave's to be formally > recognized in the Queen's birthday honours list, and Richard is to set up an > Indian Takeaway Reservation in Bath after winning #4,000,000 on the National > Lottery. > > > -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? > > * Dunno, do you know any spare chicks? > > > > > KevinSommers > From CCollins54 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 9 13:49:16 2001 From: CCollins54 at AOL.COM (CCollins54 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:49:16 EST Subject: HW: Weird Cd's Message-ID: We have the weird cd's in stock along with Paradogs, Spacebrock, Atomhenge etc. Please e-mail CCollins54 at aol.com. Peace and Love, Jim Collins From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 9 13:53:14 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:53:14 -0500 Subject: Off: Re: A Question on Bootlegs In-Reply-To: <200102091822.SAA02855@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, M Holmes wrote: => > What difference is there between asking for extra media and asking for => > a tenner? (And why stop at 2-for-1 in that case?) Spreading the music => > is about exactly that: free exchange of music to spread it to those to => > whom you want to expose it. It is a free exchange. => => Excellent communitarian sentiments. Thanks for not answering the question, Mike. :-) If people really charged for their time in B&Ps, we'd be charging a lot more than a tenner! Hawkwind's music does not belong to me. I have no right to sell it to anyone (at least I don't think so; Dave Anderson notwithstanding). => > Besides, in all the trading communities in which I move, N-for-1 => > trades are considered anathema => => And good luck to you all. Not everyone lives in your ideological suburb => though. That is the funniest part, to me. Despite all the "free festivals" ethos surrounding Hawkwind, the Hawkwind "trading" community is the only place I've ever personally encountered a 2-for-1 or cash B&P. I guess that is why my Hawkwind list is tiny compared to other bands I collect where free trading is the norm. Call it "hippy," "communitarian," or whatever word du jour you want, but people just seem to like spreading the music they love in those other circles (kind of like a musical evangelism:). But, like you said, if people are happy to pay money (be it cash or whatever) for bootlegs, and they feel they're getting value from the deal, then that's their business and not mine. (But it is still bootlegging.) => Next Week: Why Mike Should Get Beer at Cost While Barmaids Work For Free Now that is something we can all get behind! :-) Mine's a pint! Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US Fri Feb 9 15:23:02 2001 From: blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US (Brad M. Lauchnor) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:23:02 -0700 Subject: BOC: Tree Message-ID: Yes! It was Paul. Thanks Paul, it's really a great show. Sorry I forgot your name. I hope everyone that is even remotely interested in bootlegs BOC shows will get this. The sound quality is fantastic. Thanks again Paul! Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:07:28 -0500 From: Paul Mather Subject: Re: BOC: Another bootleg tree, a little different this time. On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Brad M. Lauchnor wrote: => It has been long enough since the last BOC tree! I have a great => bootleg that has been around for a while but is such great quality => that I want to make sure everyone gets a copy. I traded for this => during the last tree and can't remember who I traded with :( but => whoever it was - THANKS! This bootleg is the infamous "The Thing!" Um... that would be me. I'm glad this is seeing the light of day; it's a great bootleg, and well worth a listen! Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa ******************************* From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Feb 9 15:25:14 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:25:14 -0500 Subject: HW: Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS For those that missed the On The Ether section of Mission Control: We may be doing a two/three day Hawkwind festival in the Lake District area in the summer... there is also a possibility of hiring a holiday camp.... a kind of Hawkwind weekend getaway..... stay tuned....... Feedback Required. . . . . . . . . . . . ++Message Ends From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Feb 9 16:37:37 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:37:37 -0700 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Details here: http://ds.dial.pipex.com/andygee/album.htm KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Layla Thompson Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 2:10 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk So, what's all this then? What's so good about it?? Layla. >>> novadrive at HOME.COM 02/09/01 05:24am >>> If anyone out there doesn't have Starfield's "Return To Earth" yet, you want it. You really want it. Granted, it's no "Space Ritual" remake, and the credits don't list a paper-and-comb player, but it's fantastic. Get it. Do it now. It's that good. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:43 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Sommers To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:47 PM Subject: HW: The newest Hawk > Hello Captain Bl at ck---- > Inquiring minds want to know: > -What is your musical background/history? * I started playing Kazoo when I was about 12 and graduated from there. > -How did you come to join Hawkwind? * My guesting at Brixton and Astoria was a prize for winning the 'Funniest Nik Turner Lymeric Competition'. > -What's next for Starfield? * A #50,000 advance from EMI to re-record Space Ritual using just a paper and comb. > -What's next for Hawkwind? * Well this is just between you and me, but I hear Dave's to be formally recognized in the Queen's birthday honours list, and Richard is to set up an Indian Takeaway Reservation in Bath after winning #4,000,000 on the National Lottery. > -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? * Dunno, do you know any spare chicks? > > KevinSommers From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 14:14:48 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:14:48 -0000 Subject: HW: totalrock chain monday Message-ID: Dan, Hang on a mo. I'm no techy. I can only make use of an instantly playable CD which I can then do a straight copy of. You've confused me with talk of .WAV files. Cheers, Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Witt To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:58 PM Subject: HW: totalrock chain monday > I just emailed about 10 people asking for your address, please respond by > Monday as I am planning making the structure then. If I didn't email you, > then I have your address already. > > The disc will be simple wav files, just copy them to a windows based pc hard > drive, then burn them in your favorite program. Then you will mail the wav > disc to the next person. > From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 16:52:38 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:52:38 -0000 Subject: HW: In-Reply-To: <200102092025.PAA09392@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: sounds like a good idea, i'm definatley interested i know the techno club "bugged out" did a week-end away before christmass at a butlins type camp colm ++STAR WARRIORS For those that missed the On The Ether section of Mission Control: We may be doing a two/three day Hawkwind festival in the Lake District area in the summer... there is also a possibility of hiring a holiday camp.... a kind of Hawkwind weekend getaway..... stay tuned....... Feedback Required. . . . . . . . . . . . ++Message Ends From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Feb 9 16:59:22 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:59:22 -0600 Subject: HW: In-Reply-To: <200102092025.PAA09392@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Rik Rx wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: : :++STAR WARRIORS : :For those that missed the On The Ether section of Mission Control: : :We may be doing a two/three day Hawkwind festival in the Lake District area :in the summer... there is also a possibility of hiring a holiday camp.... a :kind of Hawkwind weekend getaway..... stay tuned....... : :Feedback Required. . . . . . . . . . . . : Oh, I'd be all for this. Assuming air fares aren't too screamingly ridiculous, I'd love to go! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Fri Feb 9 17:01:24 2001 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 23:01:24 +0100 Subject: HW live album In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > >theres another atomhenge live recording other than the voiceprint >one? What happened to the EMi schedule then? Did the plans to >release more hawkwind live stuff fall by the way side because of >poor sales? > Poor sales ? Well, I dunno, I mean it took me three bleedin' month's to get this album, they didn't seemed to be too eager to sell it. And when I asked Nik to autograph it for me he hadn't seen it yet and he's on the album, seems to me that EMI should get their act together. Kenneth ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Feb 9 16:12:07 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:12:07 -0000 Subject: HW live album Message-ID: RE: BOC Some possible stuffHonest answer - lord knows what happened Opinion - if EMI failed miserably to catapault Hawkwind's career by missing the chance to coincide the release of their biggest hit with the use of that hit in a nationwide month-long advert campaign on national TV, it's no wonder they gave up - 1999 tour party, 30th anniversary album (released late), probable sales of said album well below estimates and - BINGO - lose interest and move on the next AC/DC single, Christ - if I was working for EMI I could have got that one right - whoever put all their faith in that stupid dance mix of S.M wants looking at!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: Colm McWilliams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 10:00 AM Subject: Re: HW live album theres another atomhenge live recording other than the voiceprint one? What happened to the EMi schedule then? Did the plans to release more hawkwind live stuff fall by the way side because of poor sales? colm This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. 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Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layla Thompson" To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > So, what's all this then? > > What's so good about it?? > > Layla. > > >>> novadrive at HOME.COM 02/09/01 05:24am >>> > If anyone out there doesn't have Starfield's "Return To Earth" yet, you want > it. You really want it. > Granted, it's no "Space Ritual" remake, and the credits don't list a > paper-and-comb player, but it's fantastic. > Get it. Do it now. It's that good. > > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:43 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kevin Sommers > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:47 PM > Subject: HW: The newest Hawk > > > > Hello Captain Bl at ck---- > > Inquiring minds want to know: > > -What is your musical background/history? > > * I started playing Kazoo when I was about 12 and graduated from there. > > > -How did you come to join Hawkwind? > > * My guesting at Brixton and Astoria was a prize for winning the 'Funniest > Nik Turner Lymeric Competition'. > > > -What's next for Starfield? > > * A #50,000 advance from EMI to re-record Space Ritual using just a paper > and comb. > > > -What's next for Hawkwind? > > * Well this is just between you and me, but I hear Dave's to be formally > recognized in the Queen's birthday honours list, and Richard is to set up an > Indian Takeaway Reservation in Bath after winning #4,000,000 on the National > Lottery. > > > -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? > > * Dunno, do you know any spare chicks? > > > > > KevinSommers From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Feb 9 17:00:12 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 22:00:12 -0000 Subject: RE; Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space Message-ID: Hang on a minute - Johnny at GAS has the master of this and I've got teo of the darned things and put through a de-hisser, the quality would be fantastic - why does Tim reckon it's going to be so expensive. Also I hgave VP label a sample of four rather fine Blake live tapes from the '70's with a view to putting them out but nothing came of that, so what is really going on!!! I once gave a stunning tape of a Guru Guru gig to a label to release and they passed it on to the drummer who vetoed it on the grounds that the drumming wasn't up to scratch - next thing I know someone goes and releases (actually two different labels) live stuff on CD from the same era most of which was way inferior to the stuff I presented. On the other side of the coin you'll get musicians with little archive stuff who'll release anything of any quality if they think someone will buy it (no names - wouldn't be fair but I'm not referring to any one of a Hawk nature). It's interesting in the case of Can who must have just tons and tons of hours of live and unreleased stuff in the vaults that it takes them 20 years or more to come out with a live set of stuff from the '70's on CD only to find that if yuo read the small print,the recordings didn't come from the group's archives anyway and most of it - surprise surprise - was on bootleg CD's Speaking of which anothe label,on behalf of the groups no doubt, puts out archive live stuff that are literally taken from exisiting bootleg CD's and not from the group's archves, if they have any. In many cases it's down to who out of that group has the archives and who wants to release it - often two different people and that's where it all starts to fall apart. Then you get the BBC sessions - or lack of rthem in some cases - the BBC claimed ages ago not to have most of the '70s' sessions but 'an insider' says that this is tosh and that they have most of it - altho' I do know that they don't haveone of the first Hawkwind ones , the first Caravan and Wishbone Ash In Concert broadcasts and the first Soft Machine sessions. A while back NMC were desperate to obtain a missing Budgie Peel session that the BBC had 'lost' of which I have one track only but they wanted it all or nothing. Just a glimpse into the ever more bizarre world of seventies archive issues!!! Andy Garibaldi (getting way off the point - sorry people) ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:15 PM Subject: RE; Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space > Colin Allen writes: > > > Does anyone else have a ticket for the Croydon gig which names Tim Blake as > > the support act? > > > > Last night, I happened to mention to Tim that I was looking forward to his > > set at Croydon and his reply was along the lines of "Croydon? Is there > > something I don't know about?" Perhaps Kris or Dave would clarify if Tim is > > the support for Croydon and, if he is, possibly let him know! > > > > Also, Tim asked me to let Dave and Kris know that he would like to spend a > > lot more time playing with Hawkwind. > > Speaking of Tim Blake. I had a chat to him at Hawkmas and he said that > he had a good copy of the "Waterfalls In Space" tape that's been booted > around (though no good quality recordings that I've ever heard of) since > 1978. This one was being hawked by GAS at one point in the last couple > of decades and is a live tape from the 1978 tour and features several > variations on the New Jerusalem theme, mostly without lyrics. > > Tim said that he'd release it if he could find a way to do so that would > cover costs and not involve massive effort. Maybe if we put something > together for him then he could be persuaded? How many other Blake fans > would be after a CD or CDR release of this? > > Who's currently in contact with Tim and could liase? > > FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Feb 9 17:04:06 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 22:04:06 -0000 Subject: HW: On The Ether Message-ID: hey, a few days isn't bad, actually - we at Centaur promised the new Alan Davey album three months ago and it's still not gone to the pressing plant yet but at least we've got Kevin S's artwork now (superb) so shouldn't be long now. Just not enough time in the world thesedays. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:31 AM Subject: Re: HW: On The Ether > its time for a revolution > > what do we want!!!!! > > --------- > > when do we want it > > NOW!! > > tee hee > > MB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melvyn Vincent > To: > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:57 AM > Subject: Re: HW: On The Ether > > > > Hey Mr Rik RX > > > > How many more "next few days" will we be waiting for the following on > > mission control. > > > > 1) Audio/Video Clips of Hawkestra > > 2) Synopsis of Hi's & Lo's of Hawkxmas. > > > > Its a great website....but the HW camp seem to be forever wetting our > > appetite with promises of 'this & that'........"within the next few days", > > but none of which seems to materialise. > > > > ????????? > > > > mel. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Feb 9 17:13:42 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:13:42 EST Subject: HW: Starfield Message-ID: In a message dated 2/9/01 2:04:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: > errr.....actually we (or rather me) were first in with this at CDS towers - > the good Captain presented a copy to me and I was just blown away - pure > early seventies Hawks to a tee but so much more than that - and we were > trying to get the fans to buy it a full 2-3 months before he started playing > with the Hawks - anyway it's on my web site at: > http://www.andygee.dial.pipex.com/highlite.htm > and it's there somewhere > and you can buy it for ?9.99 from CDS - all good stuff, eh!!! > andy, there are definitely signs of '70s Hawks here, but I think even more so the '90s Hawks. That may not have as much to do w/the riffs themselves but the tuning of the guitar to make it almost equal to Brock's '90s sound and the synths are also very rem. of the sounds produced by the Hawks in the last decade. Might also indicate that the HW sound itself hasn't changed as much except the production techniques. BUT!!!!!!!! After the first couple tunes (Starfield disc) things began to sound much more removed from that more direct-HW influence...and much more exciting...but then as the Capt. knows I'll have to wait a while for further commentary. :) Not that that's a problem, but I do highly anticipate it... Now, back to J. Jarrett's early point about Brit space-rock bands sounding too much like HW, such as Krel, Spacehead, etc, I think Alan Davey is much as much to blame as anyone, as far as Chaos Delight goes! Chuck Chuck From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Feb 9 17:57:31 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:57:31 -0600 Subject: HW: side effect of listening to HW at work Message-ID: I'm listening to Hurry on Sundown at work. Which is just one of the those songs that I love. Now I have a bunch of curious coworkers wondering what on earth I'm dancing to. ah well. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Feb 9 18:11:05 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 23:11:05 -0000 Subject: HW:Ron and generator Message-ID: The Death Generator is a custom built unit called the Psyclone, and comprises a bank of oscillators, amplifiers and mixer circuits which can be combined together using a 16 x 16 way patch board. It also has an infra-red sensitive Theremin which can control the pitch of the sound, and is operated by placing your hands in relation to its invisible beam. It was built and designed by Steve Smyth, who guested on Distant Horizons. Captain Bl at ck ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Ogilvy To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:11 PM Subject: HW:Ron and generator > On the subject of mission control....will someone please explain the story > about Ron playing the death Generator...I missed last Glastonbury. > I've asked before with no replies, but, apart from the comic book and the > aborted Ledge of darkness project what is this allegedly playable death > generator, Did Ron really play it at glastonbury and what does it sound like? > > Irritatingly curious about cryptic entries on Mission control > Al From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Feb 9 18:13:55 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 23:13:55 -0000 Subject: Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space Message-ID: I'd be happy to assist in any way in seeing this released. I have access to proffessional CDR mastering tools which could be used to tweak it if necessary. I'm also in touch with Tim from time to time. Captain Bl at ck ----- Original Message ----- From: David Bottomley To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:20 PM Subject: Re: Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space > Mike wrote: > > >Tim said that he'd release it if he could find a way to do so that would > >cover costs and not involve massive effort. Maybe if we put something > >together for him then he could be persuaded? How many other Blake fans > >would be after a CD or CDR release of this? > > > Well, you can definitely count me in on this. I've had a (dodgy) copy of > this tape for years and have to say that it contains some of Tim's best ever > work (IMHO). In fact, I *was* just about to transfer this to CDR myself, but > if there's a better quality tape out there.........& I'm happy to help in > any way possible. What were you thinking of - a CDR tree or something more > formalised? Perhaps Keith can advise after is experiences with the Starfield > CDR (which I really, really must buy soon)? > > But maybe Voiceprint can be persuaded to give this a full release? Or would > this not cover costs & not involve massive effort? I mean, VP can hardly > reject the idea on the grounds of the (poor) sound quality, given the fact > that they've been happy to put out such nuggets as "Live at Glastonbury > 1990" & "Complete 79" in the past, now can they? Just a thought. > > Incidentally, I noticed that Tim's "Tide of the Century" hasn't generated > that much discussion on-list. FWIW, I think it's excellent, surprisingly so > after the relative disappointment of "Magick". Highly recommended, anyway. > > Dave From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Fri Feb 9 18:44:35 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 23:44:35 +0000 Subject: HW: Message-ID: Rik Rx wrote: > ++STAR WARRIORS > > For those that missed the On The Ether section of Mission Control: > there is also a possibility of hiring a holiday camp.... a > kind of Hawkwind weekend getaway..... stay tuned....... > > Feedback Required. . . . . . . . . . . . > > ++Message Ends Cool - Minehead or Bognor? D-A-F# :) Keef From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 9 18:56:34 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:56:34 EST Subject: HW:Hawkwind weekend getaway Message-ID: Dear Mission Control As far as feedback on the idea of Holiday camp with the Hawklords we vote: PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN and we will be there. Now how about the scoop on UK gigs in March and April. Inquiring minds want to know. Love In Space, Eli and Paula In a message dated 2/9/01 3:25:30 PM, hw at CY-B.ORG writes: << ++STAR WARRIORS For those that missed the On The Ether section of Mission Control: We may be doing a two/three day Hawkwind festival in the Lake District area in the summer... there is also a possibility of hiring a holiday camp.... a kind of Hawkwind weekend getaway..... stay tuned....... Feedback Required. . . . . . . . . . . . ++Message Ends >> From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 9 19:00:32 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:00:32 EST Subject: RE; Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space Message-ID: I'm totally unfamiliar with this recording, Waterfalls In Space. Add my vote to those interested in seeing it get released. Eli Friedman From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Fri Feb 9 19:12:43 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:12:43 -0500 Subject: Off: Re: A Question on Bootlegs Message-ID: I've been trading bootlegs for about 13 years or so, and every single person I've ever traded with has basically had the same arrangement-- two blanks for one recorded, or 1 for 1 if each person has something of mutual interest to the other. It only seems fair. I would hate it if someone just sent me say 10 blank tapes and expected me to record all 10 for them, without any benefit to me. I mean, it takes a lot of time (90 minutes times 10 tapes) plus all the gas & time involved going to the post office, not to mention the cost of postage. There's no reason why I should take a LOSS just because someone else has demanded my time. Two blanks for one recorded is a generous deal, I think. John Majka http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac/tapes.html > On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, M Holmes wrote: > > => > What difference is there between asking for extra media and asking for > => > a tenner? (And why stop at 2-for-1 in that case?) Spreading the music > => > is about exactly that: free exchange of music to spread it to those to > => > whom you want to expose it. It is a free exchange. > => > => Excellent communitarian sentiments. > > Thanks for not answering the question, Mike. :-) If people really > charged for their time in B&Ps, we'd be charging a lot more than a > tenner! > > Hawkwind's music does not belong to me. I have no right to sell it to > anyone (at least I don't think so; Dave Anderson notwithstanding). > > => > Besides, in all the trading communities in which I move, N-for-1 > => > trades are considered anathema > => > => And good luck to you all. Not everyone lives in your ideological suburb > => though. > > That is the funniest part, to me. Despite all the "free festivals" > ethos surrounding Hawkwind, the Hawkwind "trading" community is the only > place I've ever personally encountered a 2-for-1 or cash B&P. I guess > that is why my Hawkwind list is tiny compared to other bands I collect > where free trading is the norm. Call it "hippy," "communitarian," or > whatever word du jour you want, but people just seem to like spreading > the music they love in those other circles (kind of like a musical > evangelism:). > > But, like you said, if people are happy to pay money (be it cash or > whatever) for bootlegs, and they feel they're getting value from the > deal, then that's their business and not mine. (But it is still > bootlegging.) > > => Next Week: Why Mike Should Get Beer at Cost While Barmaids Work For Free > > Now that is something we can all get behind! :-) > > Mine's a pint! > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 9 20:28:09 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 20:28:09 EST Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: Dear Layla and the rest of you intergalactic dreamers, I said it in my Astoria write up, and I'll say it again. "Starfields" was (outside of Hawkwind's own releases) the space rock CD event of the past year. If you like Hawkwind, if you're on this list, you will more than likely love this to shreds. It evokes the vibes of 70's Hawkwind in a huge way, without copying riffs. Its very original, very well produced with a clear, multi layered sound. The songs are the type that grow on you with repeated visits. Get ahold of Andy at CD Services and let him hook you up with this. And the synth player does look rather dapper in an oversized hat. Very, very recommended. That's my 2 cents, love and peace, Eli In a message dated 2/9/01 4:11:43 AM, lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK writes: << So, what's all this then? What's so good about it?? Layla. >>> novadrive at HOME.COM 02/09/01 05:24am >>> If anyone out there doesn't have Starfield's "Return To Earth" yet, you want it. You really want it. Granted, it's no "Space Ritual" remake, and the credits don't list a paper-and-comb player, but it's fantastic. Get it. Do it now. It's that good. KevinSommers - From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Fri Feb 9 20:45:56 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:45:56 -0600 Subject: HW: totalrock chain monday Message-ID: Ah I think you have a stand alone recorder. This will be a windows disc with wav files. Maybe you could get somebody to put it on their hard drive and make you a copy? If so let me know. take care ----- Original Message ----- From: "J D" To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:14 PM Subject: Re: HW: totalrock chain monday > Dan, > Hang on a mo. > I'm no techy. > I can only make use of an instantly playable CD which I can then do a > straight copy of. > You've confused me with talk of .WAV files. > Cheers, > Jez > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dan Witt > To: > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:58 PM > Subject: HW: totalrock chain monday > > > > I just emailed about 10 people asking for your address, please respond by > > Monday as I am planning making the structure then. If I didn't email you, > > then I have your address already. > > > > The disc will be simple wav files, just copy them to a windows based pc > hard > > drive, then burn them in your favorite program. Then you will mail the > wav > > disc to the next person. > > > From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Fri Feb 9 20:53:28 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:53:28 -0600 Subject: OFF: Re: HW: totalrock chain monday Message-ID: Oops! Sorry for the crap post to the list, made only worse by this post. I just slapped myself. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Witt" To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 7:45 PM Subject: Re: HW: totalrock chain monday > Ah I think you have a stand alone recorder. This will be a windows disc From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 9 20:50:15 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 20:50:15 -0500 Subject: Off: Re: A Question on Bootlegs In-Reply-To: <000f01c092f6$307a37a0$e7d1b718@cc177845c> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, John Majka wrote: => I've been trading bootlegs for about 13 years or so, and every single person => I've ever traded with has basically had the same arrangement-- two blanks => for one recorded, or 1 for 1 if each person has something of mutual interest => to the other. It only seems fair. I would hate it if someone just sent me => say 10 blank tapes and expected me to record all 10 for them, without any => benefit to me. I mean, it takes a lot of time (90 minutes times 10 tapes) => plus all the gas & time involved going to the post office, not to mention => the cost of postage. There's no reason why I should take a LOSS just => because someone else has demanded my time. Two blanks for one recorded is a => generous deal, I think. This seems silly to me. Nobody is forcing you to do anything for anyone. If you choose to B&P a show for someone, that is *your* choice, arrived at after weighing all the options re: available time, facilities, and so on. It's not as if someone can send you dozens of blanks and demand you record something on them. (Can they?:) If you don't have the time to B&P a show for someone, don't agree to do it. If you are worried it will wear out your equipment, don't agree to do it. Nobody is holding a gun to your head. Why stop at 2-for-1? Why not 5-for-1? Why not a "small fee," to cover "inconvenience?" Why not have the extra blanks sent with a store receipt with a thank you written on the back so you can return them for cash if you want? Most newbies are willing to pay for shows, bid ridiculous amounts on eBay, or do 2-for-1 (or more) because they are desperate to get the show and often have no other recourse. Bootlegging is about supply and demand, not sharing the music. I see a B&P as an act of musical charity, not as some kind of business exchange. The reward for me is spreading what I consider to be mighty fine music, and maybe brightening someone's day in the process. Like any charity work, you fit it into your spare time as and when you can. You do it because you want to, not because you have to. I guess other people see it differently, which is okay by me. I just don't trade with those people these days. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Feb 9 21:44:15 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:14:15 +1030 Subject: A Question on Bootlegs Message-ID: Thanks for that - good reading! Michael Blackman ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Medford To: Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 1:06 AM Subject: Re: A Question on Bootlegs > See > > http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/1831/brock.html > > for an interview with Dave B which includes his views on bootlegs. To > summarise: trading OK, selling not OK. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Feb 9 21:51:53 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:21:53 +1030 Subject: HW: Message-ID: I think its a bloody marvelous idea & I am screaming .... AYE... tell me more - tell me more so I can book my flight now cause the fares are low now YES PLEASE yaaa hooo Hows that?? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Rx To: Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 6:55 AM Subject: Re: HW: > ++STAR WARRIORS > > For those that missed the On The Ether section of Mission Control: > > We may be doing a two/three day Hawkwind festival in the Lake District area > in the summer... there is also a possibility of hiring a holiday camp.... a > kind of Hawkwind weekend getaway..... stay tuned....... > > Feedback Required. . . . . . . . . . . . > > ++Message Ends From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Fri Feb 9 21:49:57 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:49:57 -0500 Subject: A Question on Bootlegs Message-ID: A Question on BootlegsFrom: Colm McWilliams >Having recently acquired some bootlegs of hawkwind gigs through trading. I was wondering >what the views of people on this mailing list was on individuals selling bootlegs cd's or tapes? Trades OK. Selling - anything above blank + postage is bad karma (in my opinion). Jerry From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Fri Feb 9 21:51:24 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:51:24 -0500 Subject: RE; Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space Message-ID: From: "M Holmes" > Tim said that he'd release it if he could find a way to do so that would > cover costs and not involve massive effort. Maybe if we put something > together for him then he could be persuaded? How many other Blake fans > would be after a CD or CDR release of this? Raising BOTH hands here :) Jerry From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Feb 9 21:58:05 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:28:05 +1030 Subject: HW: Message-ID: > in the summer... there is also a possibility of hiring a holiday camp.... a > kind of Hawkwind weekend getaway..... stay tuned....... > > Feedback Required. . . . . . . . Its such a brilliant idea I had to vote twice!! Yes Please make this happen - but, I humbly ask, PLEASE get the details ASAP cause the air fares here in OZ are at an all time low at the moment any approximations - I'll book the flight now - no kaka ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Rx To: Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 6:55 AM Subject: Re: HW: > ++STAR WARRIORS > > For those that missed the On The Ether section of Mission Control: > > We may be doing a two/three day Hawkwind festival in the Lake District area > in the summer... there is also a possibility of hiring a holiday camp.... a > kind of Hawkwind weekend getaway..... stay tuned....... > > Feedback Required. . . . . . . . . . . . > > ++Message Ends From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Feb 9 23:33:43 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:33:43 +0800 Subject: Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space Message-ID: Count me in as well Bill > :Subject: Re: Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space > : > :Could anyone else interested please register that interest and I'll keep > :a list. Obviously the more of us there are, the more convincing a case we > :can make to get this out. > > I'll officially register my interest :-) > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Feb 10 02:33:05 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:33:05 +0800 Subject: A Question on Bootlegs Message-ID: Hi all I don't know if it has already been discussed, but has anyone cosidered compiling the bootlegs as MP3 CD's? William From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Sat Feb 10 03:07:11 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 03:07:11 EST Subject: HW: side effect of listening to HW at work Message-ID: Interesting....Where do you work? I 've sneaked my own best of compilation on tape into work and its amazing how many people say "wow...whats this". You tell them HW and they say "Yeh...I remember them...are they still going ?" Lets have a campaign.....Everyone take some Hawks into work and play it to your Co workers....If they like it make them a tape on the basis that they play it to someone, and start a tree ! who needs radio play !! From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sat Feb 10 04:01:08 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 02:01:08 -0700 Subject: Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space Message-ID: Yes, please!!! Count me in. This sounds interesting:) Pam Bill & Cynthia wrote: > Count me in as well > > Bill > > :Subject: Re: Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space > > : > > :Could anyone else interested please register that interest and I'll keep > > :a list. Obviously the more of us there are, the more convincing a case we > > :can make to get this out. > > > > I'll officially register my interest :-) > > > > Arin > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu > > Web Systems Administrator > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace I have fun with these guys! I own & operate a taxicab company, and my taxi has a 10-disc changer in it! I've been treating my cooler customers to all sorts of great tunage, lots of HW included!! I just picked up the Choose Your Masques live double (collectors 2) . It's been in the player for 3 daze now..... Fun stuph!! Pam Al Ogilvy wrote: > Interesting....Where do you work? > I 've sneaked my own best of compilation on tape into work and its amazing > how many people say "wow...whats this". > You tell them HW and they say "Yeh...I remember them...are they still going > ?" > Lets have a campaign.....Everyone take some Hawks into work and play it to > your Co workers....If they like it make them a tape on the basis that they > play it to someone, and start a tree ! > who needs radio play !! -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace I did that (Space Ritual) and got told to take it off becaue it was scaring people! --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Ogilvy To: Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 8:07 AM Subject: Re: HW: side effect of listening to HW at work > Interesting....Where do you work? > I 've sneaked my own best of compilation on tape into work and its amazing > how many people say "wow...whats this". > You tell them HW and they say "Yeh...I remember them...are they still going > ?" > Lets have a campaign.....Everyone take some Hawks into work and play it to > your Co workers....If they like it make them a tape on the basis that they > play it to someone, and start a tree ! > who needs radio play !! From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Feb 10 05:02:17 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:02:17 +0000 Subject: HW: side effect of listening to HW at work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Al Ogilvy writes >Interesting....Where do you work? >I 've sneaked my own best of compilation on tape into work and its amazing >how many people say "wow...whats this". > You tell them HW and they say "Yeh...I remember them...are they still going >?" > Lets have a campaign.....Everyone take some Hawks into work and play it to >your Co workers....If they like it make them a tape on the basis that they >play it to someone, and start a tree ! > who needs radio play !! Working for me, two or three Hawkwind albums EVERY day is just one of the perks of the job. I'm sure the guys will all agree. They find it hard to tell me just which is their favourite album, so I guess they must just like them all. I think we'll listen to the 3 Disc Epoch Eclipse now... -- Jon From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Feb 10 06:12:18 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:12:18 -0000 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: Just a note of gratitude to all of you who've recently said kind words about the Starfield album, including Michael B, Eli, Kevin Sommers, Bill & Cynthia, Andy Garibaldi, Chuck Rosenberg, and anyone else I've missed. I am not worthy! Your Captain. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eli Friedman To: Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 1:28 AM Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > Dear Layla and the rest of you intergalactic dreamers, > I said it in my Astoria write up, and I'll say it again. "Starfields" > was (outside of Hawkwind's own releases) the space rock CD event of the past > year. If you like Hawkwind, if you're on this list, you will more than likely > love this to shreds. It evokes the vibes of 70's Hawkwind in a huge way, > without copying riffs. Its very original, very well produced with a clear, > multi layered sound. The songs are the type that grow on you with repeated > visits. Get ahold of Andy at CD Services and let him hook you up with this. > And > the synth player does look rather dapper in an oversized hat. Very, very > recommended. > That's my 2 cents, love and peace, Eli > > In a message dated 2/9/01 4:11:43 AM, lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK writes: > > << So, what's all this then? > > What's so good about it?? > > Layla. > > >>> novadrive at HOME.COM 02/09/01 05:24am >>> > If anyone out there doesn't have Starfield's "Return To Earth" yet, you want > it. You really want it. > Granted, it's no "Space Ritual" remake, and the credits don't list a > paper-and-comb player, but it's fantastic. > Get it. Do it now. It's that good. > > KevinSommers > > - From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Feb 10 06:39:07 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:39:07 -0000 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk - seriously now... Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Sommers To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:47 PM Subject: HW: The newest Hawk > Hello Captain Bl at ck---- > Inquiring minds want to know: > -What is your musical background/history? I've always been interested in electronics and synthesisers, in fact anything electronic that makes a noise. I built my first synth about 20 years ago, then modified it somewhat. I still use it. Seeing Tim Blake in 1979 with 2 EMS machines turned me on to those - they are incredibly flexible and capable of some unique sounds that you can't get any other way. It seemed like a lot of bands I enjoyed at the time were using EMS stuff - Hawkwind, Gong, Steve Hillage. Musically I'm self taught, but I don't really consider myself a musician, though I know what sounds good and what doesn't. > -How did you come to join Hawkwind? I knew Dave through doing various articles for Hawkfan and also through servicing some of the bands gear. I offered my services as I felt I might have something worthwhile to contibute in terms of that looseness that analogue synths offer, in the style of the early albums. I think its great the way they use sequencers, but sometimes its nice to have a kind of random element to the electronics. I never play anything the same way twice, so its always different for the listener, and I try to do unusual things like feed Dave's guitar through the synths during Space is Deep, so you get an extra layer of sound on top of what he's playing. > -What's next for Starfield? We've got about half an albums worth of stuff in demo form which needs working on, its really just finding the time to do it. It does help to get feedback from people, even if its negative, as it gives you the encouragement to get on and do more things. I have a huge collection of gear here now as well, which we didn't have when we started, although that's not always a good thing - its like, if you only have 1 synth, you get really good at programming it and you really get the best out of it, but if you've got 10, you tend to only skim the surface of what they are capable of. There's so much else to think about as well, like the synth repair side of things and various other projects I'm involved in. I also have an ambient album in the can which I'd like to release at some point. > -What's next for Hawkwind? Hopefully a live album of Astoria and some more gigs this year. Keep checking Mission Control! > -Do the chicks dig a guy in a Big Hat? Actually I've not had much feedback on that one yet. > > KevinSommers From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Feb 10 07:01:49 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:31:49 +1030 Subject: Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space Message-ID: Interest registered! Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space > Count me in as well > > Bill > > :Subject: Re: Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space > > : > > :Could anyone else interested please register that interest and I'll keep > > :a list. Obviously the more of us there are, the more convincing a case we > > :can make to get this out. > > > > I'll officially register my interest :-) > > > > Arin > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu > > Web Systems Administrator > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Feb 10 07:08:32 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:38:32 +1030 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: > Just a note of gratitude to all of you who've recently said kind words about > the Starfield album, including Michael B, Eli, Kevin Sommers, Bill & > Cynthia, Andy Garibaldi, Chuck Rosenberg, and anyone else I've missed. > > I am not worthy! You are worthy - Sir! {([ Salute ])} Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 9:42 PM Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > Just a note of gratitude to all of you who've recently said kind words about > the Starfield album, including Michael B, Eli, Kevin Sommers, Bill & > Cynthia, Andy Garibaldi, Chuck Rosenberg, and anyone else I've missed. > > I am not worthy! > > Your Captain. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eli Friedman > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 1:28 AM > Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > > > > Dear Layla and the rest of you intergalactic dreamers, > > I said it in my Astoria write up, and I'll say it again. > "Starfields" > > was (outside of Hawkwind's own releases) the space rock CD event of the > past > > year. If you like Hawkwind, if you're on this list, you will more than > likely > > love this to shreds. It evokes the vibes of 70's Hawkwind in a huge way, > > without copying riffs. Its very original, very well produced with a clear, > > multi layered sound. The songs are the type that grow on you with repeated > > visits. Get ahold of Andy at CD Services and let him hook you up with > this. > > And > > the synth player does look rather dapper in an oversized hat. Very, very > > recommended. > > That's my 2 cents, love and peace, Eli > > > > In a message dated 2/9/01 4:11:43 AM, lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK writes: > > > > << So, what's all this then? > > > > What's so good about it?? > > > > Layla. > > > > >>> novadrive at HOME.COM 02/09/01 05:24am >>> > > If anyone out there doesn't have Starfield's "Return To Earth" yet, you > want > > it. You really want it. > > Granted, it's no "Space Ritual" remake, and the credits don't list a > > paper-and-comb player, but it's fantastic. > > Get it. Do it now. It's that good. > > > > KevinSommers > > > > - > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Feb 10 07:17:15 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:47:15 +1030 Subject: Hawkwind Message-ID: > I think promtion to Commander Blackman is definitely in order. > Your Captain. Hey hey - its official doods (hah ha) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 10 09:14:22 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:14:22 -0000 Subject: HW: Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Rx To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 8:25 PM Subject: Re: HW: > ++STAR WARRIORS > > For those that missed the On The Ether section of Mission Control: > > We may be doing a two/three day Hawkwind festival in the Lake District area > in the summer... there is also a possibility of hiring a holiday camp.... a > kind of Hawkwind weekend getaway..... stay tuned....... > > Feedback Required. . . . . . . . . . . . > > ++Message Ends > Definitely interested - and it would be much easier to persuade some workmates of mine to come to a festival. They have been, so far, unwilling to travel down to London! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 10 09:21:01 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:21:01 -0000 Subject: RE; Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:15 PM Subject: RE; Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space > Tim said that he'd release it if he could find a way to do so that would > cover costs and not involve massive effort. Maybe if we put something > together for him then he could be persuaded? How many other Blake fans > would be after a CD or CDR release of this? Oh definitely! A clean, quality CD of this would be just excellent. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Feb 10 09:24:40 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:24:40 -0500 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk In-Reply-To: <009301c09352$54fad560$ee1028d5@starfield> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, Captain Bl at ck wrote: => Just a note of gratitude to all of you who've recently said kind words about => the Starfield album, including Michael B, Eli, Kevin Sommers, Bill & => Cynthia, Andy Garibaldi, Chuck Rosenberg, and anyone else I've missed. Does anyone know where one can get ahold of the Starfield album in the US, or is mail-order from the UK the only avenue? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Feb 10 09:59:37 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:59:37 EST Subject: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line Message-ID: The bottom line on this issue is the bottom line. (not the one in NYC) If you're profiting in any way from your fellow Hawkwind fan, you can refer to your tape/cdr/video as a bootleg. If you're doing a one for one swap, call it a tape or cdr. because in reality "bootlegs" are sold. calling tapes etc "bootlegs" (if any one has traded with me knows) is a big no-no. Let me clarify: 1st examples: Hawkwind "Live St Albans" CD - bootleg Hawkwind "The Golden Void" LP - bootleg Hawkwind "Dawn of Hawkwind" cd - bootleg Hawkwind "Orgasmatron" cd - bootleg Hawkwind "Rock City" cd - bootleg etc etc etc I paid around $20-plus on most of these...they are "bootlegs" 2nd examples: Hawkwind "We Are The Ones Who Are Left" - cdr Hawkwind "Nova Drive" - cdr Hawkwind "Live At The Astoria" - cdr Hawkwind "Close Encounters of the First Strike Chicago" - cdr Hawkwind "Choose The Side That You'll Be" - cdr + hundreds of other cdrs/tapes/vids.... paid absolutely nothing for, zippo, zero with a line of zeros after it. all in trades. one for one. no one made a penny from these. I call these: tapes, cdrs etc.. I've only encountered a few people over the years that insist on a 2 for 1 trade, those deals I've avoided. As a few people mentioned earlier, it's your choice, if it's worth sending 2 out to get one back, then do it, I guess, if it's worth $10 for a cdr, then do it, I guess. when are we going into the pirating thread? bob From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Feb 10 10:23:03 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:23:03 +0800 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk - seriously now... Message-ID: > > Hello Captain Bl at ck---- > > Inquiring minds want to know: > Is your favourite TV show a certain Gerry Anderson Production? William From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sat Feb 10 10:32:31 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:32:31 -0600 Subject: HW: side effect of listening to HW at work Message-ID: About 20 years ago, when I was in the Air Force, I played Hawkwind Levitation full blast in our dorm. Someone, apparently thought that it was "druggie" music, and coincidentally or not, I was busted within two weeks and booted from the military for a bag of weed. Actually, it was the best thing that ever happened in my life! :)) Jon Browne wrote: > In article , Al Ogilvy > writes > >Interesting....Where do you work? > >I 've sneaked my own best of compilation on tape into work and its amazing > >how many people say "wow...whats this". > > You tell them HW and they say "Yeh...I remember them...are they still going > >?" > > Lets have a campaign.....Everyone take some Hawks into work and play it to > >your Co workers....If they like it make them a tape on the basis that they > >play it to someone, and start a tree ! > > who needs radio play !! > > Working for me, two or three Hawkwind albums EVERY day is just one of > the perks of the job. I'm sure the guys will all agree. They find it > hard to tell me just which is their favourite album, so I guess they > must just like them all. > > I think we'll listen to the 3 Disc Epoch Eclipse now... > -- > Jon From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Feb 10 10:34:46 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:34:46 EST Subject: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line Message-ID: In a message dated 2/10/01 10:01:21 AM, Hawkwinder at AOL.COM writes: << when are we going into the pirating thread? >> ======== gee, i dunno. seen any _counterfeits_ of officially-released HW, _impersonating_ a legit release? what, if not that, would be a _pirate_? not an audience tape ,or some chucklehead's attempt to turn his cassette into a cd-cdr. pirates=fakes, counterfeits... yes/no? "<>" From novadrive at HOME.COM Sat Feb 10 11:14:15 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:14:15 -0700 Subject: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line In-Reply-To: <9f.1108242c.27b6b996@aol.com> Message-ID: Yes and no. According to "Bootleg: The Secret History Of The Other Recording Industry" by Clinton Heylin, what you described is a counterfeit (think millions of fakes of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" made in China), and a pirate is unauthorized release of official material, but not in it's original form (those same Chinese taking a dozen tracks form albums across The Gloved Perv's whole career and throwing them together, along with a fuzzy press photo as a cover, in a CD called "The All Good Songs from Michael Jackson"). No, I've never seen a Hawkwind counterfeit, but maybe some of the zany completeists out there have stumbled across one? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of DASLUD at AOL.COM Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 8:35 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line In a message dated 2/10/01 10:01:21 AM, Hawkwinder at AOL.COM writes: << when are we going into the pirating thread? >> ======== gee, i dunno. seen any _counterfeits_ of officially-released HW, _impersonating_ a legit release? what, if not that, would be a _pirate_? not an audience tape ,or some chucklehead's attempt to turn his cassette into a cd-cdr. pirates=fakes, counterfeits... yes/no? "<>" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Feb 10 07:06:13 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:36:13 +1030 Subject: HW: side effect of listening to HW at work Message-ID: A patient that comes to our clinic arrived with a Jimi Hendrix tshirt and we started chating & I asked him - did he know Hawkwind - Same thing - are they still going etc Told him I saw them in London at Brixton - wow! - Gave him the whereabouts to order the cd's from the most reliable stores and internet ordering - thats the ticket! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Ogilvy To: Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 6:37 PM Subject: Re: HW: side effect of listening to HW at work > Interesting....Where do you work? > I 've sneaked my own best of compilation on tape into work and its amazing > how many people say "wow...whats this". > You tell them HW and they say "Yeh...I remember them...are they still going > ?" > Lets have a campaign.....Everyone take some Hawks into work and play it to > your Co workers....If they like it make them a tape on the basis that they > play it to someone, and start a tree ! > who needs radio play !! From Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 10 13:16:51 2001 From: Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:16:51 -0000 Subject: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Excellent point. The whole point of trading is to distribute the music as widely as possibble the more copies the less value it is to the commercial bootlegger. The cost of copying a cdr is so little nowadays there can be no justification for selling the to fellow fans. As a sign I once saw at the Stonehenge Festival read Selling Sucks do it for Free Thanks Brian From g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK Sat Feb 10 13:42:27 2001 From: g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK (g.m.wright) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:42:27 -0000 Subject: Off: Re: A Question on Bootlegs Message-ID: I don't have many tapes or cdr's of Hawkwind & would definately like some more. Is there anyone out there who would be willing to do a trade for blank cdr's or blank tapes, or something similar. While we're on the subject, I'd like to say a big thank you to Dan Witt for his generous contribution of hawkwind cdr's via his tree's. May the forest continue to grow ! Thanks Dan Geoff p.s I am willing to pay postage geoff wright g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sat Feb 10 14:02:03 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:02:03 -0600 Subject: HW: side effect of listening to HW at work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, Al Ogilvy wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: side effect of listening to HW at work : :Interesting....Where do you work? :I 've sneaked my own best of compilation on tape into work and its amazing :how many people say "wow...whats this". : You tell them HW and they say "Yeh...I remember them...are they still going :?" : Lets have a campaign.....Everyone take some Hawks into work and play it to :your Co workers....If they like it make them a tape on the basis that they :play it to someone, and start a tree ! : who needs radio play !! Well, I work at the University of Chicago. My coworkers fit into the "too old and staid", "too young", or "just doesn't care" models. I understand that there is a Calvert fan lurking somewhere help desk staff, and a couple of HW fans lurking in the student body, but the great majority of folks just stare at me strangely. None of which was helped by my haring off to England twice for concerts either. ah well. Let them think me strange ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Feb 10 14:25:20 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:25:20 EST Subject: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line Message-ID: In a message dated 2/10/01 11:13:51 AM, novadrive at HOME.COM writes: << Yes and no. According to "Bootleg: The Secret History Of The Other Recording Industry" by Clinton Heylin, what you described is a counterfeit (think millions of fakes of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" made in China), and a pirate is unauthorized release of official material, but not in its original form (those same Chinese taking a dozen tracks form albums across The Gloved Perv's whole career and throwing them together, along with a fuzzy press photo as a cover, in a CD called "The All Good Songs from Michael Jackson"). No, I've never seen a Hawkwind counterfeit, but maybe some of the zany completeists out there have stumbled across one? ===== well. the 'fakes' i recall were cassettes of major-label releases, with a 2-color sleeve, not even trying to look like the original. cheaper price, too. i recall seeing 'em in a couple headshops, one of which was also my source for 'real' lp bootlegs. i bought a fake of...[wait for it]...the 1st America lp as such a tape; might've been my 15th birthday [ducks] ditto went for 'fake' country/western cassettes, at truck stops, etc. i believe the fake cassette stuff of that sort was cleared out by the end of the '70s[?] == yeah, this one can easily imagine those chinese michael jackson counterfeits...and wonder if 60s kids in european communist countries were whipping up some records, too. "<>" From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Feb 10 15:09:04 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 20:09:04 -0000 Subject: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line Message-ID: Some counterfeits of rare items are in existence. I remember some years ago a friend turned up at my house with a mint copy of Sam Gopal's Escalator. What was interesting about that one was although the surface of the disc was pristine, there appeared to be scratches in the recording. I gather the Sonic Attack single was subject to the same process. Captain Bl at ck ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 7:25 PM Subject: Re: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line > In a message dated 2/10/01 11:13:51 AM, novadrive at HOME.COM writes: > > << Yes and no. According to "Bootleg: The Secret History Of The Other > Recording Industry" by Clinton Heylin, what you described is a counterfeit > (think millions of fakes of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" made in China), and > a pirate is unauthorized release of official material, but not in its > original form (those same Chinese taking a dozen tracks form albums across > The Gloved Perv's whole career and throwing them together, along with a > fuzzy press photo as a cover, in a CD called "The All Good Songs from > Michael Jackson"). > No, I've never seen a Hawkwind counterfeit, but maybe some of the zany > completeists out there have stumbled across one? > ===== > well. > the 'fakes' i recall were cassettes of major-label releases, with a 2-color > sleeve, not even trying to look like the original. cheaper price, too. i > recall seeing 'em in a couple headshops, one of which was also my source for > 'real' lp bootlegs. > i bought a fake of...[wait for it]...the 1st America lp as such a tape; > might've been my 15th birthday [ducks] > > ditto went for 'fake' country/western cassettes, at truck stops, etc. > > i believe the fake cassette stuff of that sort was cleared out by the end of > the '70s[?] > == > yeah, this one can easily imagine those chinese michael jackson > counterfeits...and wonder if 60s kids in european communist countries were > whipping up some records, too. > > "<>" From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sat Feb 10 19:34:01 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:34:01 -0600 Subject: OFF: essential gong? Message-ID: Hey folks, Just heard my first Gong album (Angels Egg). Neat stuff. I know I should get the other two Radio Invisible cds, but are there any others that are "musts"? Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Feb 10 19:33:55 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 19:33:55 EST Subject: OFF: KUCR (Space Does Not Care) Back on Web Message-ID: so tune in tonight if you can! 5-7pm PST, and then maybe at 1am again... Chuck From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Feb 10 19:43:25 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 19:43:25 EST Subject: OFF: HW pirates Message-ID: Kevin, talk to Mikey about pirates. he says he has some (or one, I forget) I think it's a Korean Xenon Codex Lp....possibly others. any band with any kind of market has pirate releases of their stuff. A pirate release is an exact copy of the official one, but sold without permission. and sometimes there are cheesy releases of butchered collections, ie: a Russian pirate of Black Sabbath with material from their 1st & 2nd LP mixed together. bob In a message dated 2/10/01 8:13:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, novadrive at HOME.COM writes: > No, I've never seen a Hawkwind counterfeit, but maybe some of the zany > completeists out there have stumbled across one? Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Feb 10 20:21:20 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 01:21:20 +0000 Subject: OFF: essential gong? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Arin Komins writes >Hey folks, > >Just heard my first Gong album (Angels Egg). Neat stuff. >I know I should get the other two Radio Invisible cds, but >are there any others that are "musts"? The earlier ('71) 'Camembert Electrique' is an absolute classic, rawer (almost proto-punk in parts), and even trippier than the Radio Gnome albums. The two studio albums from the reformed band are well worth hearing: 'Shapeshifter' shows the group flirtng with an impressive range of styles, while 'Zero To Infinity' is like an up-to-date take on their classic 70s sound. Daevid Allen's other projects are well worth investigating- most of it comes highly recommended- but the one I have to mention right now is the Planet Gong album "Floating Anarchy '77". PG were an amalgam of Daevid, Gilli Smyth, and the Here And Now band, and this is quite simply one of the greatest albums ever made- a blazing amalgam of tripped-out space rock and punk aggression- as Daevid termed it, 'spunk rock'- featuring the astonishing guitar skills of Stef 'Sharpstrings' Lewry, who out-Hillages even Hillage. Strong and streamin' mate! I could go on for ages but I'll leave it there.. for now.. -- Nick Medford From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Sun Feb 11 02:41:01 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 02:41:01 -0500 Subject: Off: Re: A Question on Bootlegs Message-ID: I listen to one band who's policy is similar to Paul Mathers'. See http://www.donnathebuffalo.com/taping.cfm American roots rock Jerry From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sun Feb 11 07:40:47 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:40:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind original tickets for trade Message-ID: Hi folks I have got here about 10 spare original HAWKWIND tickets for trade. They are: - Mile End, 05.10.72 - Folkestone, 05.03.84 - Ramsgate, 28.05.84 - Manchester, 10.02.85 - York, 13.12.91 - Norwich, 10.05.92 - Tilburg, 25.04.93 - Norwich, 06.11.93 - Tilburg, 27.06.96 - Amsterdam, 19.11.97 If someone is interested, please send me a private e-mail cheers Bernhard From micci at SCI.FI Sun Feb 11 09:59:28 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:59:28 +0200 Subject: OFF: essential gong? Message-ID: Hi! >Just heard my first Gong album (Angels Egg). Neat stuff. >I know I should get the other two Radio Invisible cds, but >are there any others that are "musts"? You (album) is my favourite. I think it?s must every HW fan. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Feb 11 09:49:53 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:49:53 -0000 Subject: HW: Starfield Message-ID: I'm not suer if 'blame' is the right word - are you not implying that it's a bad thing to sound like Hawkwind, by that. Am I the only one who thinks that if a band is doing original material, suitably influenced by their heroes, be it Hawkwind or whoever, that as long as the music 'per se' is quality, that is the bottom line - I have had way, way more positive feedback for the Krel, and about 70-30 on Spacehead from those who've bought it over the duration, so something must be right - if only the sales of the Doug Snyder CD I put out reflected the amazing reaxtions that's getting, I'd be well happy - still, more to come. On that score, the first of the Krel 'old music' on CD has now been planned and negotiations are afoot - news soon, I hope. Andy Garibaldi (Dead Earnest) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Rosenberg" To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 10:13 PM Subject: Re: HW: Starfield > BUT!!!!!!!! After the first couple tunes (Starfield disc) things began to > sound much more removed from that more direct-HW influence...and much more > exciting...but then as the Capt. knows I'll have to wait a while for further > commentary. :) Not that that's a problem, but I do highly anticipate it... > Now, back to J. Jarrett's early point about Brit space-rock bands sounding > too much like HW, such as Krel, Spacehead, etc, I think Alan Davey is much as > much to blame as anyone, as far as Chaos Delight goes! From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 11 08:55:28 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:55:28 -0000 Subject: HW: Lloyd Langton Message-ID: Looking at the notes for Huw's Elegy CD the other day, I was interested in the suggestion that he had worked "with" Hawkwind occasionally during the period in the 70s when he was "between" his two stints with the band. Is there basis in fact for this? Is there any record of him guesting during that period? Ian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Feb 11 12:23:42 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:23:42 -0000 Subject: OFF: essential gong? Message-ID: oh yes - you want: Camembert Electrique (not to be confused with its sister album 'Camembert Eclectique' but that's out of print anyway) Live At Sheffield '74 Gong Live, etc 25th Anniversary Birthday Party Pre-Modernist Wireless plus the three you mentioned and that is the essential Gong collection. >From there, you go to Steve Hillage-Fish Rising, Steve Hillage-Live, Here and Now-Gospel Of Free, and Planet Gong - Live '77 'et voila' - a neat little collection to accompany your Tim Blake albums. Andy Garibaldi.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:34 AM Subject: OFF: essential gong? > Hey folks, > > Just heard my first Gong album (Angels Egg). Neat stuff. > I know I should get the other two Radio Invisible cds, but > are there any others that are "musts"? > > Thanks, > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Feb 11 13:50:11 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:50:11 -0000 Subject: Sloterdijk news: Message-ID: Hi, Any chance of a promo review copy of the CD for me to reviewe for the CD Services catalogues - send to: Andy G, CD Services, 40-42 Brantwood Avenue, Dundee, Tayside, Scotland, DD3 6EW Thanks alot in anticipation, Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SLOTERDIJK" To: Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 11:02 PM Subject: Sloterdijk news: > Just wanted to inform people that the "Integration" CD is now being > distributed by Swamproom Records, Germany at: From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 11 15:16:11 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:16:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Videos Message-ID: Does anyone have any HW videos that they would be willing to trade? From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sun Feb 11 16:19:51 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:19:51 GMT Subject: HW:Hawkwind weekend getaway In-Reply-To: Eli Friedman's message of Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:56:34 EST Message-ID: Eli Friedman writes: > Dear Mission Control > As far as feedback on the idea of Holiday camp with the Hawklords we vote: > PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN and we will be there. If you billet, we will come. FoFP From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Sun Feb 11 16:57:58 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:57:58 -0500 Subject: HW: Videos Message-ID: Speaking of videos, Does CDS have any, or plan on getting any on DVD? Jerry From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Feb 11 06:59:17 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:59:17 -0000 Subject: HW: totalrock chain monday Message-ID: Dan, Just had a chat with my techy mate, who seems to be able to make CDs from tapes and clean them up at the same time and do just about anything with any source. So, any format will be fine. Presumably you'll be sending a CD as opposed to e-mailing me the WAVs which I understand are enormous. A ready to play CD would be easiest for me, but it sounds like I'll be able to do something with WAVs as well (assuming no technical problems). Cheers, Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Witt To: Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 1:45 AM Subject: Re: HW: totalrock chain monday > Ah I think you have a stand alone recorder. This will be a windows disc > with wav files. Maybe you could get somebody to put it on their hard drive > and make you a copy? If so let me know. > > take care > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J D" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:14 PM > Subject: Re: HW: totalrock chain monday > > > > Dan, > > Hang on a mo. > > I'm no techy. > > I can only make use of an instantly playable CD which I can then do a > > straight copy of. > > You've confused me with talk of .WAV files. > > Cheers, > > Jez > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dan Witt > > To: > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:58 PM > > Subject: HW: totalrock chain monday > > > > > > > I just emailed about 10 people asking for your address, please respond > by > > > Monday as I am planning making the structure then. If I didn't email > you, > > > then I have your address already. > > > > > > The disc will be simple wav files, just copy them to a windows based pc > > hard > > > drive, then burn them in your favorite program. Then you will mail the > > wav > > > disc to the next person. > > > > > > From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Sun Feb 11 17:18:13 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:18:13 +0100 Subject: RE; Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space In-Reply-To: <004401c0930c$5e28d9c0$c04a1818@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: Hi, > > Tim said that he'd release it if he could find a way to do so that would > > cover costs and not involve massive effort. Maybe if we put something > > together for him then he could be persuaded? How many other Blake fans > > would be after a CD or CDR release of this? AOL, please! ;-) (c)IAO D+R From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Sun Feb 11 17:43:08 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:43:08 -0600 Subject: HW: totalrock chain monday Message-ID: ok then. the reason for the wav files is so nobody has to bother making a copy of music cd(since many people just can't figure out the right way to do it). your friend should have no problem with a disc of wav files to burn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J D" To: Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 5:59 AM Subject: Re: HW: totalrock chain monday > Dan, > Just had a chat with my techy mate, who seems to be able to make CDs from > tapes and clean them up at the same time and do just about anything with any > source. > So, any format will be fine. > Presumably you'll be sending a CD as opposed to e-mailing me the WAVs which > I understand are enormous. > A ready to play CD would be easiest for me, but it sounds like I'll be able > to do something with WAVs as well (assuming no technical problems). > Cheers, > Jez > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dan Witt > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 1:45 AM > Subject: Re: HW: totalrock chain monday > > > > Ah I think you have a stand alone recorder. This will be a windows disc > > with wav files. Maybe you could get somebody to put it on their hard > drive > > and make you a copy? If so let me know. > > > > take care > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "J D" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:14 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: totalrock chain monday > > > > > > > Dan, > > > Hang on a mo. > > > I'm no techy. > > > I can only make use of an instantly playable CD which I can then do a > > > straight copy of. > > > You've confused me with talk of .WAV files. > > > Cheers, > > > Jez > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Dan Witt > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:58 PM > > > Subject: HW: totalrock chain monday > > > > > > > > > > I just emailed about 10 people asking for your address, please respond > > by > > > > Monday as I am planning making the structure then. If I didn't email > > you, > > > > then I have your address already. > > > > > > > > The disc will be simple wav files, just copy them to a windows based > pc > > > hard > > > > drive, then burn them in your favorite program. Then you will mail > the > > > wav > > > > disc to the next person. > > > > > > > > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Feb 11 20:57:12 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:27:12 +1030 Subject: HW: Hawkwind original tickets for trade Message-ID: I would be interested but I don't know if I have anything worthy of a trade? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernhard Pospiech To: Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 11:10 PM Subject: HW: Hawkwind original tickets for trade > Hi folks > > I have got here about 10 spare original HAWKWIND tickets for trade. > > They are: > > - Mile End, 05.10.72 > - Folkestone, 05.03.84 > - Ramsgate, 28.05.84 > - Manchester, 10.02.85 > - York, 13.12.91 > - Norwich, 10.05.92 > - Tilburg, 25.04.93 > - Norwich, 06.11.93 > - Tilburg, 27.06.96 > - Amsterdam, 19.11.97 > > If someone is interested, please send me a private e-mail > > > cheers > Bernhard > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Feb 11 21:07:40 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:37:40 +1030 Subject: HW:Hawkwind weekend getaway Message-ID: Once again It's a winner Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 7:49 AM Subject: Re: HW:Hawkwind weekend getaway > Eli Friedman writes: > > > Dear Mission Control > > As far as feedback on the idea of Holiday camp with the Hawklords we vote: > > PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN and we will be there. > > If you billet, we will come. > > FoFP From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Feb 11 21:20:59 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:20:59 EST Subject: OFF: essential gong? Message-ID: In a message dated 2/11/01 11:03:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: > oh yes - you want: > Camembert Electrique (not to be confused with its sister album 'Camembert > Eclectique' but that's out of print anyway) > Live At Sheffield '74 > Gong Live, etc > 25th Anniversary Birthday Party > Pre-Modernist Wireless > plus the three you mentioned and that is the essential Gong collection. ...and I always have to put in my vote for Est Mort, a double live album recorded in '77 w/most of the Trilogy line-up: monster album!! Though I wonder if it's worth mentioning since it's been out of print for a while. I still regret not buying the CD when I saw it at import price...but didn't someone say a while back that there was to be a re-issue? Andy Gee, maybe it was you? Chuck BTW: how is Magic Brother/Mystic Sister and the that early soundtrack (forget the name) album? From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Feb 11 21:25:59 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:25:59 EST Subject: HW: Starfield Message-ID: In a message dated 2/11/01 8:15:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: > I'm not suer if 'blame' is the right word - are you not implying that it's a > bad thing to sound like Hawkwind, by that. Am I the only one who thinks that > if a band is doing original material, suitably influenced by their heroes, > be it Hawkwind or whoever, that as long as the music 'per se' is quality, > that is the bottom line - I have had way, way more positive feedback for the > Krel, and about 70-30 on Spacehead from those who've bought it over the > duration, so something must be right - if only the sales of the Doug Snyder > CD I put out reflected the amazing reaxtions that's getting, I'd be well > happy - still, more to come. > On that score, the first of the Krel 'old music' on CD has now been planned > and negotiations are afoot - news soon, I hope. > Andy Garibaldi (Dead Earnest) moi? I thought my take on this was pretty well-balanced. I love Spacehead, Krel, etc, but on the other hand, I can see why some would like to hear something with a bit more individuality. But for me, you're right, it is ultimately "what gets me off"--hey, just look at the play-lists for my radio show! Chuck From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Feb 11 21:31:00 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:31:00 +0000 Subject: OFF: essential gong? In-Reply-To: <11.faffda4.27b8a28b@aol.com> Message-ID: In message <11.faffda4.27b8a28b at aol.com>, Chuck Rosenberg writes > >BTW: how is Magic Brother/Mystic Sister and the that early soundtrack (forget >the name) album? MB/MS: Excellent album, mainly short songs, more (electric) guitar- oriented, but still with that unique Gong surreal whimsy and humour, and not a little weird in places. Continental Circus: Long jams, very much in the Camembert style (in fact one track is almost an alternate version of 'Fohat Digs Holes In Space'), overall not as varied or strong as Camembert but still worth hearing. -- Nick Medford From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Feb 11 22:05:46 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:05:46 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Des Not Care" Play-lists 2/3 and 2/10 Message-ID: And...KUCR us back on the Web...for the time being, let's hope it sticks... "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck 2/3/01 (5-9pm) 1.Ozric Tentacles--Velmwend (Erpsongs) 2.Doldrums--Mahatma Wants His Rice Back (Serotonin Ronin II comp) 3.Ashra--Hauaufgabe (The Private Tapes) 4.Census of Hallucinations--Buttercup Biscuits (The 3rd Eye--thanks to Stone Preomonitions) 5.Architectural Metaphor--March of the Wooden Potatos (Creature of the Welvet Void) 6.Sonic Assassins (Hawkwind)--Freefall/Deathtrap (Sonic Assassins EP, Mighty HW Classics, Weird Tapes Vol. 1) 7.Alman Mulo Band--Antario (Orisha) 8.Tangerine Dream--Wahn (Atem) 9.Holy River Family Band--Fragrance of Flower and Herbs (Haida Deities) 10.Hash Jar Tempo--In the Cells of Walken's Corti (Under Glass) 11.Frank Zappa--Flakes (Shiek Yerbouti--a dedication) 12.Rugburns--Rioting (Morning Wood) 13.Residents--Where Is She? (Whatever Happened to Vileness Fats?; Hell!) 14.Residents--Coming of the Crow (Hell!) 15.Red Temple Spirits--Light of Christ (Dancing to Restore an Eclipsed Moon) 16.Zero Gravity--NRG (Space Does Not Care) 17.Escapade--Prologue/Moving in Limbo (Inner Translucence) 18.Japancakes--Disconnect the Cables (The Sleepy Strange) 19.Hawkwind--Psychedelic Warlords (Hall of the Mt. Grill) 20.TagoMago--Jazz Effect (Prelude for Afternoon) 21.Agitation Free--Looping IV (Last) 22.TagoMago--Shock the Giraffe (Prelude for Afternoon) 23.Zappa/Mothers--Inca Roads/Can't Afford No Shoes (One Size Fits All) 24.Tago Mago (the Can album) and TagoMago (the band) Mix 25.Guru Guru--Der Elektrolurch (ST'd; Spaceship: The Best Of) 26.Gong--Goddess Invocation/OM Riff (Shapeshifter) 2/10 1.SubArachnoid Space--Will You Make My House a Carnival? (Enldess Renovation) 2.Architectural Metaphor--title track (Odysseum Galacti) 3.Starfield--title track (Return to Earth--thanks to Capt. Black) 4.Marble Sheep--track #1 (Split CD w/Circle) 5.Chrome--Jonestown (Red Exposure; Chrome Box) 6.Electric Orange--Electrippity Chapter 99 (Orange Commutation) 7.Schema--Far From Where We Began (Schema) 8.Zappa (huh??)--Fine Girl (Tinseltown Rebellion) 9.ST 37--Whistling in Hell (I Love to Talk, If There's Anything to Talk About) 10.F/i--Boots of Ascension (Space Box comp--dedicated to Karen K) 11.Iron Bong--Took Too Much (Big Hits) 12.MIX of: TagoMago/Schnittstelle/Sabalon Glitz/Zero Gravity/Pressurehed 13.Cosmic Jokers--Galactic Joke (ST'd) Thanks, Chuck PS: Did anyone hear that fantastic 2--5:30am set by me and Mizzen?? From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Mon Feb 12 00:01:16 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:01:16 -0500 Subject: OFF: essential gong? Message-ID: From: "Chuck Rosenberg" > BTW: how is Magic Brother/Mystic Sister and the that early soundtrack (forget > the name) album? Continental Circus? I have it on LP, but haven't listened to it in a while. I seem to remember that it lacks a lot of synths. Probably my least favorite Gong album. Jerry From tclark at PETRONET.NET Mon Feb 12 02:15:30 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 01:15:30 -0600 Subject: OFF: essential gong? Message-ID: I always thought "Shamal" was an OK album, but then again, it was the first Gong record I heard, which I only discovered after hearing Steve Hillage's guitar work on Xitintoday which led me to Gong to begin with......pretty good music to listen late to at night after a weekend burn......whih then led me to Steve Hillage's "Green" album........ Jerry Guizar wrote: > From: "Chuck Rosenberg" > > > BTW: how is Magic Brother/Mystic Sister and the that early soundtrack > (forget > > the name) album? > > Continental Circus? I have it on LP, but haven't listened to it in a > while. I seem > to remember that it lacks a lot of synths. Probably my least favorite Gong > album. > > Jerry From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Feb 12 05:15:33 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 05:15:33 -0500 Subject: RE; Tim Blake. Waterfalls In Space Message-ID: I mentioned this idea to Tim but he wants to retain control of the duplication and distribution, which is understandable; he also said that he would want to work on the recording before releasing it. However, I suspect that we may see it at some stage. He was also unsure if his set at the Astoria was officially recorded; would anyone (Captain Black?) know the answer to that one? Regards, COLIN From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Feb 12 06:44:20 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:44:20 -0500 Subject: HW: We're All Going On A Summer Holiday Message-ID: Well you can count me in:-) But, please, please make sure there's plenty notice. These pesky scottish parliamentarians keep on giving me work to do. Stuart http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Feb 12 08:52:34 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:52:34 EST Subject: OFF: here's Gnutella, etc etc///in the post-napster era? Message-ID: Gnutella etc 'open source' From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Mon Feb 12 09:14:44 2001 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:14:44 +0000 Subject: Croydon (fao Kris or Dave in particular) Message-ID: > Nick Medford writes: > > > Although if it's wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. My tickets for Gong > > earlier this year promised Here And Now as the support, but come the night > > they were nowhere to be seen. > > That'll be the famous Gong Spinoff: "Somewhere Else and Later" I went to see Daevid Allen and the Invisible Tibetan band - guess who didn't show?! Clue: Daevid carried the gig on his own M at xine From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Mon Feb 12 10:14:36 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:14:36 -0500 Subject: Croydon (fao Kris or Dave in particular) Message-ID: : >> Nick Medford writes: >> >>> Although if it's wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. My tickets for Gong >>> earlier this year promised Here And Now as the support, but come the night >>> they were nowhere to be seen. >> >> That'll be the famous Gong Spinoff: "Somewhere Else and Later" > > > > Maxine Wesley wrote > I went to see Daevid Allen and the Invisible Tibetan band - guess > who didn't show?! > > Clue: Daevid carried the gig on his own > > M at xine The Tibetan Band cause they are INVISIBLE? -- "Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves. " -Abraham Lincoln From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Feb 12 11:19:44 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:19:44 -0500 Subject: HW; LPs to trade Message-ID: I have the "Golden Void" (Glasgow 1982) and Stonehenge 1983 boot LPs to trade for tapes, CDs or videos. Anyone interested? COLIN From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Feb 12 12:52:59 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:52:59 +0000 Subject: OFF: "Space Des Not Care" Play-lists 2/3 and 2/10 In-Reply-To: <5d.717f4c5.27b8ad0a@aol.com> Message-ID: In message <5d.717f4c5.27b8ad0a at aol.com>, Chuck Rosenberg writes >13.Residents--Where Is She? (Whatever Happened to Vileness Fats?; Hell!) >14.Residents--Coming of the Crow (Hell!) Alert! A Rez album I've never heard of. So what's "Hell!"?? I have both these tracks (first on "Our Poor..", the second on "The Commercial Album") but I still need to know! > >26.Gong--Goddess Invocation/OM Riff (Shapeshifter) And this... I got the original CD release which didn't include this track- is it live or a remix or what? Thanks -- Nick Medford From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Mon Feb 12 13:05:50 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:05:50 -0500 Subject: HW; LPs to trade Message-ID: Hey Colin, I'd be interested in getting those LPs. I have a list of tapes at http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac/tapes.html John Majka > I have the "Golden Void" (Glasgow 1982) and Stonehenge 1983 boot LPs to > trade for tapes, CDs or videos. Anyone interested? > > COLIN > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Feb 12 14:14:31 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:14:31 -0500 Subject: OFF: "Space Des Not Care" Play-lists 2/3 and 2/10 Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:52:59 +0000, Nick Medford wrote: >In message <5d.717f4c5.27b8ad0a at aol.com>, Chuck Rosenberg > writes >>13.Residents--Where Is She? (Whatever Happened to Vileness Fats?; Hell!) >>14.Residents--Coming of the Crow (Hell!) > >Alert! A Rez album I've never heard of. So what's "Hell!"?? I have both >these tracks (first on "Our Poor..", the second on "The Commercial >Album") but I still need to know! 'Heaven' & 'Hell' were the first-ever Residents CD's. Both are "thematic" compilations of Ralph-era (pre-Rykodisc; these were the first Residents releases on Ryko) material; all the tracks are previously-released (although there are a few "new" edits of longer cuts). I believe they came out around 1986 or 87. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Feb 12 14:24:25 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:24:25 +0000 Subject: OFF: "Space Des Not Care" Play-lists 2/3 and 2/10 In-Reply-To: <200102121914.OAA21138@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200102121914.OAA21138 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:52:59 +0000, Nick Medford O.UK> >wrote: >>In message <5d.717f4c5.27b8ad0a at aol.com>, Chuck Rosenberg >> writes >>>13.Residents--Where Is She? (Whatever Happened to Vileness Fats?; Hell!) >>>14.Residents--Coming of the Crow (Hell!) >> >>Alert! A Rez album I've never heard of. So what's "Hell!"?? I have both >>these tracks (first on "Our Poor..", the second on "The Commercial >>Album") but I still need to know! > >'Heaven' & 'Hell' were the first-ever Residents CD's. Both are "thematic" >compilations of Ralph-era (pre-Rykodisc; these were the first Residents >releases on Ryko) material; all the tracks are previously-released >(although there are a few "new" edits of longer cuts). I believe they came >out around 1986 or 87. Thanks. I can relax now. -- Nick Medford From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Feb 12 14:19:41 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:19:41 -0000 Subject: Sloterdijk news: Message-ID: sorry folks - that should have been off-group (yes, at CDS towers, we really do plead beg AND grovel to get review copies these days, but at least we're good!!!) Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" To: Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Sloterdijk news: > Hi, > Any chance of a promo review copy of the CD for me to reviewe for the CD > Services catalogues - send to: > Andy G, CD Services, 40-42 Brantwood Avenue, Dundee, Tayside, Scotland, DD3 > 6EW > Thanks alot in anticipation, > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SLOTERDIJK" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 11:02 PM > Subject: Sloterdijk news: > > > > Just wanted to inform people that the "Integration" CD is now being > > distributed by Swamproom Records, Germany at: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Feb 12 14:29:13 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:29:13 -0000 Subject: HW: Starfield Message-ID: errrr. sometimes I come over as a lot more 'harsh' with my use of the English language here than perhaps I intended, but I do see what you mean while not exactly agreeing 100%, but your play lists are indeed a wonder to behold and have even introduced me to stuff I wouldn't have otherwise discovered, so it's good all round. At long last the latest Circle CD finally reached my ears today and if that opening track isn't just one of the most explosive opening tracks on any CD around, then I'm in the wrong universe - worth the price for the opener alone!! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Rosenberg" To: Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 2:25 AM Subject: Re: HW: Starfield > In a message dated 2/11/01 8:15:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, > andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: > > > I'm not suer if 'blame' is the right word - are you not implying that it's a > > bad thing to sound like Hawkwind, by that. Am I the only one who thinks > that > > if a band is doing original material, suitably influenced by their heroes, > > be it Hawkwind or whoever, that as long as the music 'per se' is quality, > > that is the bottom line - I have had way, way more positive feedback for > the > > Krel, and about 70-30 on Spacehead from those who've bought it over the > > duration, so something must be right - if only the sales of the Doug Snyder > > CD I put out reflected the amazing reaxtions that's getting, I'd be well > > happy - still, more to come. > > On that score, the first of the Krel 'old music' on CD has now been planned > > and negotiations are afoot - news soon, I hope. > > Andy Garibaldi (Dead Earnest) > > moi? I thought my take on this was pretty well-balanced. I love Spacehead, > Krel, etc, but on the other hand, I can see why some would like to hear > something with a bit more individuality. But for me, you're right, it is > ultimately "what gets me off"--hey, just look at the play-lists for my radio > show! Chuck From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Feb 12 14:25:09 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:25:09 -0000 Subject: OFF: essential gong? Message-ID: yes - it was me and it is available on CD again now and for the princely sum of ?12.99 less your overdeas discount - could even have been ?9.99 but I'm not on the works system right now. Either way it is around and, yes, you are right - it, too, is a corker. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Rosenberg" To: Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 2:20 AM Subject: Re: OFF: essential gong? > In a message dated 2/11/01 11:03:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, > andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: > > > oh yes - you want: > > Camembert Electrique (not to be confused with its sister album 'Camembert > > Eclectique' but that's out of print anyway) > > Live At Sheffield '74 > > Gong Live, etc > > 25th Anniversary Birthday Party > > Pre-Modernist Wireless > > plus the three you mentioned and that is the essential Gong collection. > > ...and I always have to put in my vote for Est Mort, a double live album > recorded in '77 w/most of the Trilogy line-up: monster album!! Though I > wonder if it's worth mentioning since it's been out of print for a while. I > still regret not buying the CD when I saw it at import price...but didn't > someone say a while back that there was to be a re-issue? Andy Gee, maybe it > was you? Chuck > > BTW: how is Magic Brother/Mystic Sister and the that early soundtrack (forget > the name) album? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Feb 12 14:39:04 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:39:04 -0000 Subject: HW: Videos Message-ID: apart from 'Chronicles' there are no plans for any more H'wind DVD's at the moment. I spoke with someone who works as a DVD main man for a major company the other day and it seems that the UK is destined to lag well behind the rest of the world in the DVD releases stakes for some considerable time to come, from what he related to me. Next one of interest for us is the new Magma DVD from the 30 years anniversary - should be a goodie if you're into Magma. Thanks, Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Guizar" To: Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 9:57 PM Subject: Re: HW: Videos > Speaking of videos, Does CDS have any, or plan on getting any > on DVD? > > Jerry From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Feb 12 14:42:54 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:42:54 -0000 Subject: Croydon (fao Kris or Dave in particular) Message-ID: Tell that to the mob I'm e.mailing in Brazil - yep, they are indeed still alive and well with glissando delight still coming out of evey pore. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael S. Habiby" To: Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Croydon (fao Kris or Dave in particular) > > The Tibetan Band cause they are INVISIBLE? > > -- > "Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves. " -Abraham Lincoln From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Feb 12 14:40:54 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:40:54 -0000 Subject: OFF: essential gong? Message-ID: Agreed except for that opening track on side two of the vinyl which is vintage Gong - get it out and listen as I suspect yuo've forgotten just how good that one track is and that it is the reason you still have the album. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Guizar" To: Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 5:01 AM Subject: Re: OFF: essential gong? > From: "Chuck Rosenberg" > > > BTW: how is Magic Brother/Mystic Sister and the that early soundtrack > (forget > > the name) album? > > Continental Circus? I have it on LP, but haven't listened to it in a > while. I seem > to remember that it lacks a lot of synths. Probably my least favorite Gong > album. > > Jerry From frankw at STC.COMM.MOT.COM Mon Feb 12 16:10:42 2001 From: frankw at STC.COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:10:42 -0600 Subject: OFF: Newest Hawkwind fan Message-ID: I have been completely out of touch here for a while, but I have the best excuse in the world. This really doesn't have anything to do with anything here, but I am a Daddy for the first time, so please make allowances :-) My wife gave birth to our first child, a *beautiful* daughter: Helen Clara Weil, 6 lbs 15.2 oz, 19 inches, born at 4:54 PM on 2001 Feb 02. Mother and baby are doing fine now, but the delivery could have gone better. After 11 hours of labor, the doctors decided that a C-Section needed to be done immediately. This caught us off guard, to say the least, since my wife was having an almost textbook-perfect pregnancy up to then! Fortunately, there was enough time for me to put on scrubs and be in the O.R. Helen was born less than an hour after the C-Section was decided. It all still seems vaguely unreal at this point. I haven't tried playing any Hawkwind to her yet, but I have no doubt she will be a big fan. :-) Frank P.S. Who needs illicit drugs when sleep deprivation has such interesting effects! -- Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Feb 12 16:27:38 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:27:38 EST Subject: OFF: Court Rules Against Napster [ap] Message-ID: Court Rules Against Napster on Trading Copyrighted Material Web Site Can Stay Up for Now By RON HARRIS .c The Associated Press SAN FRANCISCO (Feb. 12) - Napster Inc. must stop allowing the millions of music fans who use its free Internet-based service to share copyrighted material, a federal appeals court ruled Monday. In a ruling that Napster officials said could force the file-swapping clearinghouse to shut down, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said Napster must prevent users from gaining access to copyrighted content through the lists of songs archived by its users. ''This is a clear victory. The court of appeals found that the injunction is not only warranted, but required. And it ruled in our favor on every legal issue presented,'' said Hilary Rosen, president and CEO of the Recording Industry Association of America. In a statement, Napster it was ''disappointed'' by the ruling and said it would appeal. ''We look forward to getting more facts into the record. We will pursue every avenue in the courts and the Congress to keep Napster operating.'' In a 58-page opinion, a three-judge panel told a lower court judge to rewrite her injunction to focus more narrowly on the copyrighted material. The panel also directed the Redwood City-based company to remove links to users trading copyrighted songs stored as MP3 files. The appeals court said it was apparent that ''Napster has knowledge, both actual and constructive, of direct infringement.'' Napster has argued it is not to blame for its subscribers' use of copyrighted material, citing the Sony Betamax decision of 1984, in which the Supreme Court refused to hold VCR manufacturers and videotape retailers liable for people copying movies. But the appeals court said no such protection extends to Napster because the company clearly knew its users were swapping copyrighted songs. Napster can stay in business until U.S. District Judge Marilyn Hall Patel retools her injunction, which the appellate court called overly broad. In fact, minutes after the panel's decision, thousands of Napster users were still trading music files on just one of the company's more than 100 servers. ''We, therefore, conclude that the district court made sound findings related to Napster's deleterious effect on the present and future digital download market,'' the appeals court ruled. ''Having digital downloads available for free on the Napster system necessarily harms the copyright holders' attempts to charge for the same downloads.'' Millions of users had flooded the company's computer servers this past weekend to download free music, fearing an immediate shutdown of the service that has changed the face of music. Napster claims to have an estimated 50 million users. Webnoize, which monitors the digital entertainment economy, estimated that 250 million songs were downloaded using Napster over the weekend. Webnoize said that, on average, 1.5 million users were logged on to the system at any one time. Major record labels hope Monday's ruling will force millions of computer users to start paying for music the online music swapping service has allowed them to get for free. The digital music technology Napster made popular is here to stay either way. The recording industry appears stymied by the notion of funneling music to consumers via the Internet for a price while freely available computer applications allow even the computer novice to do it for free. The five largest record labels - Sony, Warner, BMG, EMI and Universal - sued as soon as Napster took off, saying it could rob them of billions of dollars in profits. In May 1999, Napster founder Shawn Fanning released software that made it easy for personal computer users to locate and trade songs they had stored as computer files in the MP3 format, which crunches digital recordings down to manageable lengths without sacrificing quality. The concept of ''peer-to-peer'' song trading quickly proved too popular to contain. As Napster users grew by the millions, other file-sharing programs also popped up, such as Gnutella and Freenet. And the labels themselves are looking to use the same technology, only with paying subscribers and secure digital formats that prevent copying. After the appellate judges began deliberating in October, Napster made agreements with former business foes like Bertelsmann AG, the parent company of the BMG music unit. The German media giant has promised much-needed capital if Napster switches to a subscription-based service that pays artists' royalties. The other four major labels not reached any similar agreement. AP-NY-02-12-01 1517EST From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Feb 12 17:26:53 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:26:53 -0000 Subject: HW: We're All Going On A Summer Holiday Message-ID: Count me in too, but let us know SOON!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zeitgeist" To: Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 11:44 AM Subject: HW: We're All Going On A Summer Holiday > Well you can count me in:-) But, please, please make sure there's plenty > notice. These pesky scottish parliamentarians keep on giving me work to do. > > Stuart > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk > From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Feb 12 17:36:46 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:36:46 -0000 Subject: OFF: Newest Hawkwind fan Message-ID: Many congrats Frank; my own miniature HW fan is now 7 months old. You have an interesting few months in front of you:). COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Weil" To: Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: OFF: Newest Hawkwind fan > I have been completely out of touch here for a while, but I have the best excuse in > the world. This really doesn't have anything to do with anything here, but I am a > Daddy for the first time, so please make allowances :-) > > My wife gave birth to our first child, a *beautiful* daughter: Helen Clara Weil, 6 lbs > 15.2 oz, 19 inches, born at 4:54 PM on 2001 Feb 02. > > Mother and baby are doing fine now, but the delivery could have gone better. After 11 > hours of labor, the doctors decided that a C-Section needed to be done immediately. > This caught us off guard, to say the least, since my wife was having an almost > textbook-perfect pregnancy up to then! Fortunately, there was enough time for me to > put on scrubs and be in the O.R. Helen was born less than an hour after the C-Section > was decided. It all still seems vaguely unreal at this point. > > I haven't tried playing any Hawkwind to her yet, but I have no doubt she will be a big > fan. :-) > > Frank > P.S. Who needs illicit drugs when sleep deprivation has such interesting effects! > > -- > Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com > phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 12 17:49:44 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:19:44 +1030 Subject: OFF: Newest Hawkwind fan Message-ID: > Daddy for the first time, so please make allowances :-) > > My wife gave birth to our first child, a *beautiful* daughter: Helen Clara Weil, 6 lbs congratualations - perhaps a cyber cigar is in order here?? Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Weil To: Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:40 AM Subject: OFF: Newest Hawkwind fan > I have been completely out of touch here for a while, but I have the best excuse in > the world. This really doesn't have anything to do with anything here, but I am a > Daddy for the first time, so please make allowances :-) > > My wife gave birth to our first child, a *beautiful* daughter: Helen Clara Weil, 6 lbs > 15.2 oz, 19 inches, born at 4:54 PM on 2001 Feb 02. > > Mother and baby are doing fine now, but the delivery could have gone better. After 11 > hours of labor, the doctors decided that a C-Section needed to be done immediately. > This caught us off guard, to say the least, since my wife was having an almost > textbook-perfect pregnancy up to then! Fortunately, there was enough time for me to > put on scrubs and be in the O.R. Helen was born less than an hour after the C-Section > was decided. It all still seems vaguely unreal at this point. > > I haven't tried playing any Hawkwind to her yet, but I have no doubt she will be a big > fan. :-) > > Frank > P.S. Who needs illicit drugs when sleep deprivation has such interesting effects! > > -- > Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com > phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 12 17:50:30 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:20:30 +1030 Subject: HW: We're All Going On A Summer Holiday Message-ID: count me in again ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Allen To: Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:56 AM Subject: Re: HW: We're All Going On A Summer Holiday > Count me in too, but let us know SOON!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zeitgeist" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 11:44 AM > Subject: HW: We're All Going On A Summer Holiday > > > > Well you can count me in:-) But, please, please make sure there's plenty > > notice. These pesky scottish parliamentarians keep on giving me work to > do. > > > > Stuart > > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 12 18:04:31 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:34:31 +1030 Subject: OFF: Newest Hawkwind fan Message-ID: My miniture Hawkwind fan is not so miniture anymore (almost13) He is currently practicing some Hawkwind material on the synth - with dear ole dad on the guitar - ;>) He also has some musical interests of his own and even if its not my thing I let him know its cool that he likes it - seems to help keep the generation gap thing from getting tooo biggg ;>) Michael Hawkdaddy ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Allen To: Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:06 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Newest Hawkwind fan > Many congrats Frank; my own miniature HW fan is now 7 months old. You have > an interesting few months in front of you:). > > COLIN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Weil" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 9:10 PM > Subject: OFF: Newest Hawkwind fan > > > > I have been completely out of touch here for a while, but I have the best > excuse in > > the world. This really doesn't have anything to do with anything here, but > I am a > > Daddy for the first time, so please make allowances :-) > > > > My wife gave birth to our first child, a *beautiful* daughter: Helen Clara > Weil, 6 lbs > > 15.2 oz, 19 inches, born at 4:54 PM on 2001 Feb 02. > > > > Mother and baby are doing fine now, but the delivery could have gone > better. After 11 > > hours of labor, the doctors decided that a C-Section needed to be done > immediately. > > This caught us off guard, to say the least, since my wife was having an > almost > > textbook-perfect pregnancy up to then! Fortunately, there was enough time > for me to > > put on scrubs and be in the O.R. Helen was born less than an hour after > the C-Section > > was decided. It all still seems vaguely unreal at this point. > > > > I haven't tried playing any Hawkwind to her yet, but I have no doubt she > will be a big > > fan. :-) > > > > Frank > > P.S. Who needs illicit drugs when sleep deprivation has such interesting > effects! > > > > -- > > Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com > > phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 > > > > From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Mon Feb 12 18:08:52 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:08:52 -0500 Subject: OFF: essential gong? Message-ID: From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" > Agreed except for that opening track on side two of the vinyl which is > vintage Gong - get it out and listen as I suspect yuo've forgotten just how > good that one track is and that it is the reason you still have the album. Still no player, even tho I'm still picking up vinyl :(. I'm waiting until I get my tax refund, then I think I'm going to buy a Rega Planar-2. Is that the track with the motorcycle sounds? Jerry > > Continental Circus? I have it on LP, but haven't listened to it in a > > while. I seem > > to remember that it lacks a lot of synths. Probably my least favorite Gong > > album. > > > > Jerry > From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Feb 12 19:27:47 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:27:47 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind weekend getaway In-Reply-To: <200102092025.PAA09392@listserv.spc.edu>; from hw@CY-B.ORG on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 03:25:14PM -0500 Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 03:25:14PM -0500, Rik Rx wrote: > ++STAR WARRIORS > > For those that missed the On The Ether section of Mission Control: > > We may be doing a two/three day Hawkwind festival in the Lake District area > in the summer... there is also a possibility of hiring a holiday camp.... a > kind of Hawkwind weekend getaway..... stay tuned....... > > Feedback Required. . . . . . . . . . . . > > ++Message Ends eeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeee (well, you said you wanted feedback :-) Seriously, this would be most cool! If it happens, I'll be there! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: Is there anything in astrology? Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm naturally skeptical. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Feb 12 19:35:41 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:35:41 -0500 Subject: HW: side effect of listening to HW at work In-Reply-To: ; from Alogilvy@AOL.COM on Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 03:07:11AM -0500 Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 03:07:11AM -0500, Al Ogilvy wrote: > Lets have a campaign.....Everyone take some Hawks into work and play it to > your Co workers.... "Take your Hawk to Work Week" -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: Is there anything in astrology? Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm naturally skeptical. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Feb 12 19:39:25 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:39:25 -0500 Subject: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line In-Reply-To: <9f.1108242c.27b6b996@aol.com>; from DASLUD@AOL.COM on Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 10:34:46AM -0500 Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 10:34:46AM -0500, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > seen any _counterfeits_ of officially-released HW, _impersonating_ a legit > release? > > what, if not that, would be a _pirate_? How about all those unauthorized compilations that choke the HW section, from which, if I recall correctly, the band don't see any royalties? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: Is there anything in astrology? Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm naturally skeptical. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 12 19:51:51 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:21:51 +1030 Subject: Hawkwind weekend getaway Message-ID: eeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeee > (well, you said you wanted feedback :-) > > Seriously, this would be most cool! If it happens, I'll be there! DITTO DITTO DITTO ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Siegerman To: Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind weekend getaway > On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 03:25:14PM -0500, Rik Rx wrote: > > ++STAR WARRIORS > > > > For those that missed the On The Ether section of Mission Control: > > > > We may be doing a two/three day Hawkwind festival in the Lake District area > > in the summer... there is also a possibility of hiring a holiday camp.... a > > kind of Hawkwind weekend getaway..... stay tuned....... > > > > Feedback Required. . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > ++Message Ends > > eeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeee > (well, you said you wanted feedback :-) > > Seriously, this would be most cool! If it happens, I'll be there! > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: > Is there anything in astrology? > Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, > so I'm naturally skeptical. > From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Tue Feb 13 03:02:48 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 01:02:48 -0700 Subject: OFF: Newest Hawkwind fan Message-ID: Congratulations!! Please give both hugz for me! Yourself too! Pam Frank Weil wrote: > I have been completely out of touch here for a while, but I have the best excuse in > the world. This really doesn't have anything to do with anything here, but I am a > Daddy for the first time, so please make allowances :-) > > My wife gave birth to our first child, a *beautiful* daughter: Helen Clara Weil, 6 lbs > 15.2 oz, 19 inches, born at 4:54 PM on 2001 Feb 02. > > Mother and baby are doing fine now, but the delivery could have gone better. After 11 > hours of labor, the doctors decided that a C-Section needed to be done immediately. > This caught us off guard, to say the least, since my wife was having an almost > textbook-perfect pregnancy up to then! Fortunately, there was enough time for me to > put on scrubs and be in the O.R. Helen was born less than an hour after the C-Section > was decided. It all still seems vaguely unreal at this point. > > I haven't tried playing any Hawkwind to her yet, but I have no doubt she will be a big > fan. :-) > > Frank > P.S. Who needs illicit drugs when sleep deprivation has such interesting effects! > > -- > Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com > phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Hello there, now the calendar shows February 2001, and I want to post a question into this forum. Hawkwind has an enormous creative potential, the Astoria gig showed it one more time. What do you thin. Should the future of Hawkwind consist of many sorts of parties and festivals with the 99th version of Spirit of the Age and another rearrangement of Hurry on Sundown..... ....or will they write an amazing new album to an actual theme of our time? New things grow best on the reflections of the past works. So did the band very often during the years. Remember for example the years between 1982 and 1984 - when Hawkwind came to your town you'd hear Psychedelic Warlords, Utopia, Brainstorm, Moorcock stuff and so on, and so on, and so on.... ..but the came "The chronicle of the black sword"!!!!! Or remember the early nienties. Hawkwind as a trio, ambient stuff and by the time we thought they wouldn't ever create new stuff then came "ALIEN 4"!!!!! What will happen now? Decide the future! Chris From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 03:44:26 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:44:26 -0000 Subject: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line Message-ID: I always wondered do hawkwind get royalties from the countless collections released by castle??? Have you noticed that castle or its sub companies of castle constantly re-release the same collection under different names? colm -----Original Message----- From: Eric Siegerman [mailto:erics at TELEPRES.COM] Sent: 13 February 2001 00:39 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line On Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 10:34:46AM -0500, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > seen any _counterfeits_ of officially-released HW, _impersonating_ a legit > release? > > what, if not that, would be a _pirate_? How about all those unauthorized compilations that choke the HW section, from which, if I recall correctly, the band don't see any royalties? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: Is there anything in astrology? Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm naturally skeptical. *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 06:44:04 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:44:04 -0000 Subject: HW: New plans or not Message-ID: Chris wrote: >Hawkwind has an enormous creative potential, the Astoria gig showed it one >more time. >What do you thin. Should the future of Hawkwind consist of many sorts of >parties and festivals with the 99th version of Spirit of the Age and >another rearrangement of Hurry on Sundown..... I think we need to accept that the days of the 30-date tour are probably pretty much over & that the band will most likely concentrate on a limited number of events such as the Astoria Xmas party. I just hope that (talking about the UK only) they do this in the provinces as well as London (the proposed Lake District festival being a good sign). I know what you're saying re. the above, but I can't tell you how pleased I was to finally hear Hurry On Sundown performed live for the first time ever at Brixton (then the Astoria) after 22 years of seeing Hawkwind live. But point taken, I can quite happily do without Brainstorm/Silver Machine/etc. - it's not as if there's a dearth of other great songs waiting to be performed. In fact, I think that's one of the reasons I loved the Astoria show so much - a not particularly obvious set -list, performed with great energy by a great line-up. >....or will they write an amazing new album to an actual theme of our time? Well, of course I'm sure we'd all love this. And to have Tim, Simon, Harvey involved in the creative process as well as the current band - if indeed there is such as thing as a definitive current band any more - would be fabulous. >Or remember the early nienties. Hawkwind as a trio, ambient stuff and by >the time we thought they wouldn't ever create new stuff then came "ALIEN >4"!!!!! Yeah, but just to be awkward, I preferred the ambient, trippy stuff of 92/93 to Alien 4 (live & studio), but I suspect I'm in a minority here! Dave From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Feb 13 07:27:03 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:27:03 -0500 Subject: OFFish : Please help make the Cambridge show a reality!! Message-ID: Forwarded on behalf of Mike Burro; Hello, I am writing this note with regard to the proposed one day/night festival type event being planned for Cambridge in March. Here's the current situation as it stands ( to my knowledge) The event would take place in March, probably March 15th ( I hope, or I probably won't be able to play). The venue which the Cambridge Rock Society, seems to have secured is, "The Boat Race"; http://www.boat-race.co.uk/index.html Now the lineup of bands is still somewhat unclear, but this is how it is begininng to appear: Bedouin (Alan Davey of Hawkwind). Although Alan has been called a number of times by the organizer, they have not been able to get in touch with him, and or he has not responed to messages or something because he has not confirmed or denied the date(s) March 2nd is also under consideration, but not for me, as I'm teching Philosophy at the local college, and can't get away until the "spring break". Woronzow ( Adrian Shaw, The Bevis Frond etc) I don't know much about the status of Adrian's partipation in this show. Your guess is as good as mine. Sloterdijk: UK debut show. I plan to perfrom a very rocking set, utilizing the harder spacerock tunes from the "Integration" cd, plus several new tunes ( many also quite guitar oriented) from the forthcoming cd "Uranium Zone". "Judge" Trev Thoms ( Inner City Unit) I contacted Trev about getting involved in this event, and he was very interested. That was just a few days ago, and we have not conferred over it again. It is my hope that he will become involved. I don't know how he will approach it, but he will definately be invited to guest with Sloterdijk. Dr. Hasbeen: To my knowledge confirmed The Alchemysts: To my knowledge confirmed; big favorites in Cambridge. Now here's where YOU come in: This gig has been in the planning stages since at least early November, and the time is drawing near. We still don't have a confirmed date etc. I for one, will be needing to make flight arrangements, and I'm sure the other bands would like to be able to mark their calendars as well. So here's what you can do: At the bottom of this page is a link to the Cambridge Rock Society. They have a bulletin board for members only, however you can request to have a non member posting considered via the administrator. Drop the rock society a note and let them know that this show is worth scheduling. Another way to reach them is: rocksoc-committee at chiark.greenend.org.uk If you would like to write to the person who is trying very hard to make the event go, then drop a note of support to: jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Jon has to work around a tremendous amount of red tape, and was "The Person" who first took a stab at making this thing happen. Also, if you'd like you can drop a line to "The Boat Race" telling them that you would like to see this event happen and ask that a confirmed date be released as soon as possible, so that people can begin to get the word out. OFF: Does anyone know any details about who is organizing the proposed "Hawkwind Holiday Weekend" and when and where that event would take place? If so please drop me a line backburner, with some contact info. Peace, MIke (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Feb 13 08:54:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:54:57 -0500 Subject: HW: HAWK-POSTER and Living DEATH appearance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: dear friends..., I mean...MY FRIENDS,,,,,,,,, just to let you know I'm back.....since I keep not dying (nasty habit- ..that-, clinging to life and material hawk-possesions).... anywayhow.......MAJOR THANKS to any who inquired if I OD'd yet (on the Wind, of course!) and cared..... haven't been watching this list so...... I just found a new HAWKWIND poster that is available from "PUSH-POSTERS" in the UK, and although it's a brand new generic one, it's really TASTY!!!!!!! and the price is REAL NICE!! bout 6 bucks USA.....can't even get half my Heineken for that!!!! they're site is WWW.PUSHPOSTERS.COM in case ANDY G doesnt want to sell rolled paper goods!!!! As for my friends like Larry, Doug(s), Darrin, etc ...I'm commin, I commin.... Peace Mike Coleman From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Feb 13 09:18:00 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:18:00 -0000 Subject: OFF: Quake skins Message-ID: I was just wondering if anyone had ever seen or contemplated Lemmy, Dave B or Eric skins for Quake III...? Chortle. Cheers, Rich. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From andy.ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 09:32:52 2001 From: andy.ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK (Andy Ball) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:32:52 +0000 Subject: OFF: Quake skins In-Reply-To: <015501c095c7$c6ceb540$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk> Message-ID: No, but I have a bard character on Everquest called Hawkewind. (Corny I know, it wouldn't let me have Hawkwind) Andy At 14:18 13/02/01 -0000, you wrote: >I was just wondering if anyone had ever seen or contemplated Lemmy, Dave B >or Eric skins for Quake III...? > >Chortle. > >Cheers, > >Rich. > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Feb 13 09:36:38 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:36:38 -0500 Subject: HW: New plans or not In-Reply-To: <005f01c095b2$4b235d20$57209dc3@merlinas> Message-ID: >I think we need to accept that the days of the 30-date tour are probably >pretty much over & that the band will most likely concentrate on a limited >number of events such as the Astoria Xmas party. I just hope that (talking >about the UK only) they do this in the provinces as well as London heh, I have long ago given up hope they will visit the southeastern united states, so how often they tour is not that big a deal to me. >>Or remember the early nienties. Hawkwind as a trio, ambient stuff and by >>the time we thought they wouldn't ever create new stuff then came "ALIEN >>4"!!!!! > > >Yeah, but just to be awkward, I preferred the ambient, trippy stuff of 92/93 >to Alien 4 (live & studio), but I suspect I'm in a minority here! Actually, yeah, I agree with you on that one. I know there are others. Even IITBOTFTBD, which I didn't care for initiually, has grown on me. I liked The Business Trip more than Alien 4... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Feb 13 09:40:14 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:40:14 -0500 Subject: OFF: Quake skins In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010213143252.00970840@pop3> Message-ID: At 02:32 PM 2/13/01 +0000, Andy Ball wrote: >No, but I have a bard character on Everquest called Hawkewind. >(Corny I know, it wouldn't let me have Hawkwind) While there might be someone else who wanted Hawkwind and had it, there was also a character in the Ultima series named Hawkwind, he was a seer you had to visit in Ultima IV to check on your progress towards becoming an avatar. Ultima went on to Ultima Online (which had nothing of virtues), a MMOG, so I suppose it is possible someone who knew the name from that wanted it also. I doubt they'd restrict it because of the band name. I mean, just look at some of the names out there... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 06:56:14 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:56:14 -0000 Subject: New plans or not Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: David Bottomley [mailto:merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK] Sent: 13 February 2001 11:44 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: New plans or not David wrote: >But point taken, I can >quite happily do without Brainstorm/Silver Machine/etc. - it's not as if >there's a dearth of other great songs waiting to be performed. In fact, I >think that's one of the reasons I loved the Astoria show so much - a not >particularly obvious set -list, performed with great energy by a great >line-up. To be honest i wouldn't miss it if they never performed brainstorm again, but for me any way one of the songs i would look for them to play live will always be silver machine. Also maybe the band should continue their web based requests like they did prior to the astoria gig? Then the fans get to hear more of their favourite songs. I myself would dearly love to hear more of the charisma era material. Especially "time for sale" with maybe ron doing calverts vocal parts?? colm *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Feb 13 10:27:45 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:27:45 EST Subject: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line Message-ID: In a message dated 2/12/01 7:39:41 PM, erics at TELEPRES.COM writes: << How about all those unauthorized compilations that choke the HW section, from which, if I recall correctly, the band don't see any royalties? >> ==== well, this material had been legit at _some_ point. but really, speak to the completist devotees who buy the same material over and over, in the name of their completism.... "<>" From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Feb 13 10:31:50 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:31:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: Quake skins In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010213094014.018d9c50@flite.net> Message-ID: Hi, >While there might be someone else who wanted Hawkwind and had it, >there was also a character in the Ultima series named Hawkwind, he >was a seer you had to visit in Ultima IV to check on your progress >towards becoming an avatar. IIRC he also appears in the latest Ultima (Ascension). I'm not sure because the last time I played it was about a year ago, but he is mentioned in the manual of the game. I've always wondered if Richard Garriott is some sort of a HW-fan (I doubt that the character's name is pure coincidence). (c)IAO D'my favourite Computer-games series'+R From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Tue Feb 13 09:16:56 2001 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:16:56 +0100 Subject: HW:Samantha Fox Message-ID: Ok,it's a long time ago,but YES I've bought the "Starfield" CD at the Astoria And It's REALLY VERY VERY GOOD !!!!! That nice lady from Visionary had a copy by the end of the evening. greetings filip hawknut ----- Original Message ----- From: starfield To: Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 8:22 PM Subject: Re: HW:Samantha Fox > Does that mean you'll be buying the Starfield CD then??? > > Yours hopefully, > > Captain Bl at ck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Filip Vanhuyse > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 6:45 PM > Subject: Re: HW:Samantha Fox > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bart Brugmans > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 5:36 PM > Subject: Re: HW:Samantha Fox > > > > On 3 Dec 2000, at 16:03, Filip Vanhuyse wrote: > > > > > Seems like the completists of us have to buy that stuff too. > > ?????? > > > As she has twice a connection with Hawkwind. > > ????? > > did buy everything from ginger baker? and everything from > > everybody that has ever played with nik turner? > > > Sorry Bart,but I'm REALLY that wacko,who goes for everything. > Actually I don't have to say sorry if that's my wish. > The above comes a little bit strong,but that's what I'm into. > And yes I go for the Ginger Baker and Nik Turner albums,just bought a BLOOD > DONOR > 7" with Keith Hale for a nice sum,and it sounds like sh*t. > I don't want to offend you (you can ask anyone who knows me),but I'm really > into everything > that has anything to do with Hawkwind and I must say I've learned a lot of > new bands,like: > Bevis Frond,Spiral Realms etc. > > > > > Funny,me buying "Samantha Fox" records **8---)))))) !!??? > > maybe you just fancy her ;-) > > > > > But as a completist you can't ignore. > > you _can_ ignore, you have free will... > > Yeah sure,I can ignore it,but it's just good clean fun you know. > I buy the record and the salesman says:"Have you seen the boobies ?" > And I say:"No,I only buy it for the Hawkwind connection". > You should see his face,he's thinking:"What kind of animal it that,Hawkwind > ?" > So he never heard of Hawkwind,it's really funny. > And I only pay 50p a record you know,that's not the end of the world. > Wouldn't go to prices like I did just now on an Isralian "Silver Machine" on > e-bay. > Well if you're interested,I've got now 145 times "Silver Machine" on > different 7",12",lp's and cd's. > Not counting bootlegs,tapes and videos.Should do that one time.(If I have > the time) > Anyway if you're interested on my list,let me know,I'll send it to you. > > best wishes > filip hawknut From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Tue Feb 13 09:19:58 2001 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:19:58 +0100 Subject: Completism Message-ID: Ok Keith, I have a very good copy of that BBC program (also have the film "The Final Program") and yes it's the same "Silver Machine".Must say it's PAL-system. greetings filip hawknut ----- Original Message ----- From: starfield To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 8:27 PM Subject: Completism Here's one I'd like the answer to. Some years ago, about 1992 I guess, there used to be a guy called Ande who lived in Bridgwater who dealt in Hawkwind stuff. One of the items he had for sale once was a 7" single called "Oh my Fingers They Do Ache", which apparently was a version of "British Tribal Music" but with vocals. Anybody know anything about this? Also regarding HW film footage, remember the BBC Michael Moorcock program which featured a clip of HW playing Silver Machine? Can someone tell me if that was the TOTP clip, or am I right in thinking the clip was a different one featuring two drummers? Captain Bl at ck. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Feb 13 10:51:48 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:51:48 -0500 Subject: OFF: Quake skins In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010213162754.029ff1a0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenche n.de> Message-ID: >IIRC he also appears in the latest Ultima (Ascension). I'm not sure because >the last time I played it was about a year ago, but he is mentioned in the >manual of the game. >I've always wondered if Richard Garriott is some sort of a HW-fan (I doubt >that the character's name is pure coincidence). I too, doubt it, he put references to the "Eagles" into Ultima II. ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Feb 13 12:01:54 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:01:54 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Des Not Care" Play-lists 2/3 and 2/10 Message-ID: thanks for answering re: Residents, Doug. Nick, in case it wasn't obvious, the "Hell" theme is that it's some of the Residents' harsher/scarier bits... The Shapeshifter bonus track "Goddess Invocation/Om Riff" G. Invo. is an intro of Gylli doing a Gaia-type monologue over numerous gliss/synth, the Om part is about as good as most versions I've heard... thanks for reading :), Chuck From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 13 12:05:05 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:05:05 GMT Subject: Completism In-Reply-To: Filip Vanhuyse's message of Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:19:58 +0100 Message-ID: > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: starfield=20 > > > Here's one I'd like the answer to. > > Some years ago, about 1992 I guess, there used to be a guy called Ande = > who lived in Bridgwater who dealt in Hawkwind stuff. Ande Tucker. He's still around these parts occasionally. > =20 > One of the items he had for sale once was a 7" single called "Oh my = > Fingers They Do Ache", which apparently was a version of "British Tribal = > Music" but with vocals. > =20 > Anybody know anything about this? 'fraid not. > Also regarding HW film footage, remember the BBC Michael Moorcock = > program which featured a clip of HW playing Silver Machine? Time Out of Mind. > Can someone = > tell me if that was the TOTP clip Yes, it was the ToTP clip. I have both on video. FoFP From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Tue Feb 13 12:12:05 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:12:05 -0500 Subject: OFF: The Residents Message-ID: Just Curious: Are there any Hawkwind fans out there who either listen to or collect material by The Residents?? Just wondering- Dr. Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Feb 13 12:27:28 2001 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:27:28 -0500 Subject: OFF: The Residents Message-ID: The Laughing Song? > -----Original Message----- > From: Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] [SMTP:DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:12 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: The Residents > > > Just Curious: > > Are there any Hawkwind fans out there who either listen to or > collect material by The Residents?? > > Just wondering- > > Dr. Dan > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 13 13:52:00 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:52:00 -0000 Subject: OFF: essential gong? Message-ID: no it's the one that sounds like a cross between 'Fohat Dgs Holes In Space' off 'camembert' and the amazing intro jam of ''It's Only The World' off the Glastonbury Fayre album. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Guizar" To: Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 11:08 PM Subject: Re: OFF: essential gong? > From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" > > > Agreed except for that opening track on side two of the vinyl which is > > vintage Gong - get it out and listen as I suspect yuo've forgotten just > how > > good that one track is and that it is the reason you still have the album. > > Still no player, even tho I'm still picking up vinyl :(. I'm waiting > until I get > my tax refund, then I think I'm going to buy a Rega Planar-2. Is that the > track with the motorcycle sounds? > > Jerry > > > > Continental Circus? I have it on LP, but haven't listened to it in a > > > while. I seem > > > to remember that it lacks a lot of synths. Probably my least favorite > Gong > > > album. > > > > > > Jerry > > From micci at SCI.FI Tue Feb 13 14:09:31 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:09:31 +0200 Subject: HW: Starfield/Circle Message-ID: Hi! >At long last the latest Circle CD finally reached my ears today and if that >opening track isn't just one of the most explosive opening tracks on any CD >around, then I'm in the wrong universe - worth the price for the opener >alone!! Prospekt (album). Track tree is my favorit. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 15:13:19 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:13:19 +0000 Subject: OFF: The Residents In-Reply-To: <4327A1883D21D311AC9400508B0A1B9E01DF4F9A@ntguslaexs1.global.jnj.com> Message-ID: In message <4327A1883D21D311AC9400508B0A1B9E01DF4F9A at ntguslae xs1.global.jnj.com>, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] writes > > Just Curious: > > Are there any Hawkwind fans out there who either listen to or > collect material by The Residents?? Yes. Me. Although I'm not a completist collector of any band. There may even be others who love both the Hawks and the Rez- Chuck and Doug may be among them, maybe? I have no idea what the Residents' fanbase is like. When they played in London on the Wormwood tour, part of the fascination was looking around the crowd and thinking "...so these are the people who like the Residents!" And what did they look like? Well, like people at a gig really. -- Nick Medford From marklicht at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Feb 13 15:12:52 2001 From: marklicht at HOTMAIL.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:12:52 -0800 Subject: OFF: The Residents Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 15:18:10 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:18:10 +0000 Subject: OFF: "Space Des Not Care" Play-lists 2/3 and 2/10 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Chuck Rosenberg writes >the "Hell" theme is that it's some of the Residents' harsher/scarier bits... Plenty to choose from then! Only a single CD you say?! >The Shapeshifter bonus track "Goddess Invocation/Om Riff" >G. Invo. is an intro of Gylli doing a Gaia-type monologue over numerous >gliss/synth, the Om part is about as good as most versions I've heard... Sounds good, I'd really like to hear that, but I refuse to buy the album again for one track! (lightweight of me, eh?) -- Nick Medford From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Feb 13 15:24:10 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:24:10 EST Subject: OFF: The Residents Message-ID: In a message dated 2/13/01 3:14:08 PM, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: << > Just Curious: > > Are there any Hawkwind fans out there who either listen to or > collect material by The Residents?? ==== yeah, big time, late '70s into the 80s...as far back as 'beyond the valley of a day in the life', up to 'eskimo' circa 81-82 my band used to take the stage to an excerpt from their "not available" lp. "<>" From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Tue Feb 13 15:24:18 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:24:18 -0500 Subject: OFF: The Residents Message-ID: And, if anybody wants to check out a REALLY weird DVD, check out the Resident's new one called Icky Flix. Some really disturbing images and great visuals. Plus, any fan from the '70s should check it out. They have re-recording some stuff going all the way back to '72. It's certainly worth a look and a listen. Also, they'll be touring soon. That is show you don't want to miss. Dr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Mark Licht [SMTP:marklicht at HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:13 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: The Residents I use to listen to them alot in the 70's The other Mark L >Just Curious: > >Are there any Hawkwind fans out there who either listen to or >collect material by The Residents?? > >Just wondering- > >Dr. Dan _____ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Feb 13 15:41:35 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:41:35 -0000 Subject: Completism Message-ID: I had a reply from Simon King, of all people, to this query. He tells me there was a recording made of British Tribal Music with vocals, apparently when the band were in, er, high spirits. But it was never officially released, so someone must have obtained a copy and pressed it up. Captain Bl at ck ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Completism > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > From: starfield=20 > > > > > > Here's one I'd like the answer to. > > > > Some years ago, about 1992 I guess, there used to be a guy called Ande = > > who lived in Bridgwater who dealt in Hawkwind stuff. > > Ande Tucker. He's still around these parts occasionally. > > > =20 > > One of the items he had for sale once was a 7" single called "Oh my = > > Fingers They Do Ache", which apparently was a version of "British Tribal = > > Music" but with vocals. > > =20 > > Anybody know anything about this? > > 'fraid not. > > > Also regarding HW film footage, remember the BBC Michael Moorcock = > > program which featured a clip of HW playing Silver Machine? > > Time Out of Mind. > > > Can someone = > > tell me if that was the TOTP clip > > Yes, it was the ToTP clip. I have both on video. > > FoFP From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 15:50:07 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:50:07 +0000 Subject: HW: New plans or not In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010213093638.018d1610@flite.net> Message-ID: In message <3.0.6.32.20010213093638.018d1610 at flite.net>, Andrew Apold writes >Even IITBOTFTBD, which I didn't care for initiually, has grown on me. Same here, in fact I think the first 3 tracks rank among their best work of the last 20 years. There's some fairly uninspired stuff elsewhere on the album, but I'd rather have a mix of great stuff and poor stuff than an album like 'Distant Horizons', where everything is OK but nothing really stands out. -- Nick Medford From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Feb 13 15:54:20 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:54:20 EST Subject: OFF: The Residents Message-ID: In a message dated 2/13/01 12:14:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > Yes. Me. Although I'm not a completist collector of any band. There may > even be others who love both the Hawks and the Rez- Chuck and Doug > may be among them, maybe? > Definitely some of their stuff, though I've prob. only heard a smattering of what's out there. --it seems their better works tend to be about 1-2 munutes long! one thing's for damn sure--this is truly one of the most original groups of all time... > I have no idea what the Residents' fanbase is like. When they played in > London on the Wormwood tour, part of the fascination was looking around > the crowd and thinking "...so these are the people who like the Residents!" > > And what did they look like? Well, like people at a gig really. > -- No cyclopses, eh? Chuck From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 16:13:09 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:13:09 +0000 Subject: Completism In-Reply-To: <003501c095fe$34709880$7c1528d5@starfield> Message-ID: Whoa, is time looping back on itself, am I having a deja-vu attack, what? Didn't these exact same posts appear a few weeks ago? Whas'appenin'? In message <003501c095fe$34709880$7c1528d5 at starfield>, Captain Bl at ck writes >I had a reply from Simon King, of all people, to this query. He tells me >there was a recording made of British Tribal Music with vocals, apparently >when the band were in, er, high spirits. But it was never officially >released, so someone must have obtained a copy and pressed it up. > >Captain Bl at ck > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: M Holmes >To: >Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:05 PM >Subject: Re: Completism > > >> > ----- Original Message -----=20 >> > From: starfield=20 >> > >> > >> > Here's one I'd like the answer to. >> > >> > Some years ago, about 1992 I guess, there used to be a guy called Ande >= >> > who lived in Bridgwater who dealt in Hawkwind stuff. >> >> Ande Tucker. He's still around these parts occasionally. >> >> > =20 >> > One of the items he had for sale once was a 7" single called "Oh my = >> > Fingers They Do Ache", which apparently was a version of "British Tribal >= >> > Music" but with vocals. >> > =20 >> > Anybody know anything about this? >> >> 'fraid not. >> >> > Also regarding HW film footage, remember the BBC Michael Moorcock = >> > program which featured a clip of HW playing Silver Machine? >> >> Time Out of Mind. >> >> > Can someone = >> > tell me if that was the TOTP clip >> >> Yes, it was the ToTP clip. I have both on video. >> >> FoFP -- Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 16:18:51 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:18:51 +0000 Subject: OFF: The Residents In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Chuck Rosenberg writes >Definitely some of their stuff, though I've prob. only heard a smattering of >what's out there. --it seems their better works tend to be about 1-2 munutes >long! Some truth in that- 'The Commercial Album' is one of their greatest- although check out 'Eskimo' for some top-notch longer works (but be sure to follow the instructions before you listen!) > >No cyclopses, eh? > Now what IS the plural of cyclops? Can it be plural? The kind of dilemma which would make ideal subject matter for a Residents song, in fact. -- Nick Medford From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Feb 13 16:35:26 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:35:26 -0500 Subject: HW: New plans or not In-Reply-To: <005f01c095b2$4b235d20$57209dc3@merlinas>; from merlinas@DIRCON.CO.UK on Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 11:44:04AM -0000 Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 11:44:04AM -0000, David Bottomley wrote: > I think we need to accept that the days of the 30-date tour are probably > pretty much over & that the band will most likely concentrate on a limited > number of events such as the Astoria Xmas party. I just hope that (talking > about the UK only) they do this in the provinces as well as London (the > proposed Lake District festival being a good sign). I rather suspect you're right. Combining that with what I once heard about Dave not liking to fly just for a single gig, I've pretty much given up hope of seeing them in North America any more. (Please let me be proved wrong!) That's why I seem to have become willing to spend huge amounts of money to see them in England. That said, almost every chance I've had to see them, I've figured it was very likely my last -- that the next thing I'd hear is that they'd decided to call it quits. (Multiple gigs on the same tour count as one "chance".) Though I admit to getting a bit blase in the mid-90s, during that glorious decade from '89 to '98 when when either Hawkwind or Nikwind was here every couple of years at most. But now, every concert feels like a gift. > [...] I can't tell you how pleased I was to finally hear > Hurry On Sundown performed live for the first time ever at Brixton (then the > Astoria) after 22 years of seeing Hawkwind live. But point taken, I can > quite happily do without Brainstorm/Silver Machine/etc. Likewise! For me, Sundown was pretty much the highlight of both shows. (Alas, not *quite* as many years in my case -- but only for lack of opportunity.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: Is there anything in astrology? Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm naturally skeptical. From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue Feb 13 16:41:22 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:41:22 EST Subject: OFF: The Residents, Live Message-ID: Yes, and they are playing Philadelphia (I think this week) a rare live performance by these eyeball heads bob In a message dated 2/13/01 12:14:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM writes: > Just Curious: > > Are there any Hawkwind fans out there who either listen to or > collect material by The Residents?? > > Just wondering- > > Dr. Dan > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Feb 13 17:07:44 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:07:44 -0600 Subject: OFF: The Residents In-Reply-To: <3ljCntA7Sai6Ewl$@hermit0.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Nick Medford wrote: :> :>No cyclopses, eh? :> : :Now what IS the plural of cyclops? Can it be plural? : :The kind of dilemma which would make ideal subject matter for a Residents :song, in fact. It can be plural. either cyclopes or cyclopses. >From the oxford english dictionary: OED Entry Search [1][leftarrow.sm.gif] Next Search (return to the search form) Term: cyclops Found: one match _________________________________________________________________ 1. Cyclops Cyclops . Also Cyclop. Pl. Cyclopes ; also Cyclops, Cyclopses. a. L. Cyclo+ps, -o+pem, a. Gr. Kuklwy(gr.) lit. `round-eyed', f. kuklo-j(gr.) circle + -wy(gr.) eye. In Ital. and Sp. Ciclope, Pg. and Fr. Cyclope, whence Eng. Cyclop. 1. One of a race of one-eyed giants in ancient Greek mythology, who forged thunderbolts for Zeus. Hence often used allusively. a(gr.). sing. Cyclops, pl. Cyclopes; but the latter in early use may be like F. Cyclopes, pl. of Cyclope. * 1513 Douglas neis iii. x. 39 A huge peple we se Of Ciclopes cum hurland to the port. * 1561 T. Norton Calvin's Inst. i. 7 Vnlesse the Epicureans like the Giauntes Cyclopes would..make warre against God. * 1645 Milton Tetrach. (1851) 234 Such an obdurat Cyclops, to have but one eye for this text. * 1802 Wordsw. Daisy iv, A little cyclops, with one eye Staring to threaten and defy. * 1883 Liddell Scott Gr. Lex. (ed. 7) s.v., In Hesiod Theogony 140, we find three Cyclopes..who forged the thunderbolts for Zeus. b(gr.). sing. Cyclop, pl. Cyclops. F. Cyclope, -s. * 1592 R. D. Hypnerotomachia 3 b, Achemenides being afraide of the horrible Cyclops. * 1602 Shaks. Ham. ii. ii. 511. * 1697 Dryden Virg. Georg. iv. 245 The Cyclops, at th' Almighty Nod, New Thunder hasten for their angry God. * 1725 Pope Odyss. ix. 473 The Cyclops all that round him dwell. * 1725 Pope Odyss. 484 The Cyclop from his den replies. * 1819 Shelley Cyclops 111 Cyclops, who live in caverns, not in houses. * 1855 Macaulay Hist. IV. xix. 321 In front of the helmet was a huge glass eye like that of a cyclop. g(gr.). pl. Cyclopses. * 1681 Rycaut Critick 206 What shall I say of so many Cyclopses? * 1819 Shelley Cyclops 25 The one-eyed children of the Ocean God, The man-destroying Cyclopses. 2. Zool. A genus of small fresh-water copepods, having an eye (apparently single, but really double) situated in the middle of the front of the head. * 1849-52 Todd Cycl. Anat. IV. 967/1 The metamorphosis of the eyes in..Cyclops. * 1860 Gosse Rom. Nat. Hist. 63 Tiny cyprides and cyclopes disporting in the umbrageous groves of their world. 3. attrib. and Comb. (Cf. cyclope a.) * 1682 Dryden Medal 226 Then, Cyclop like, in humane Flesh to deal. * 1687 Third Coll. Poems, A Warning (1689) 29/1 His Cyclop Priests will make you truckle under. * 1803 Sarrett New Pict. London 177 A Cyclops pig..because it has only one eye..placed in the middle of the forehead. _________________________________________________________________ [2]Greek alphabet transliteration table [3][leftarrow.sm.gif] Next Search (return to the search form) References 1. http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/OED/oed.form.html 2. http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/OED/greektab.html 3. http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/OED/oed.form.html Arin (exploiting university resources) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 17:25:41 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:25:41 +0000 Subject: OFF: The Residents In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Seeing there's all this interest in the Residents here, and given that lots of people here like Gong, perhaps I can put a question to the assembled sages of boc-l. I've asked this a couple of times on the Gong newsgroup, and never had a response, but then no-one there has ever even admitted to having heard of the Residents, so I'm a bit more optimistic now. On the cassette release of Planet Gong "Floating Anarchy '91" (note: '91 not '77), Daevid Allen says at one point- "now you may have heard about this band called the Residents, well we've had our connections with them over the years, and we're ready to be influenced by them.." - the band then play a song called "Teeth" which I think may be a cover of a song off "Mark of the Mole" (one of the few Residents albums I've never heard). I'd like to know if this really is a Residents song, but what I REALLY want to know is: what are the 'connections' that D.A. refers to? I can think of one connection: Chris Cutler appears on the NY Gong album, also on Daevid's "N'Existe Pas", and he's done some stuff with the R's, but that's pretty tenuous and one feels there's something a bit more substantial being hinted at. Anybody? Also: a further mystery- on the inside back cover of the "Our Poor, Our Tired, Our Huddled Masses" CD booklet, there's a small pic of the eye-guys, plus a bearded man who's sporting an impressive pair of breasts (really). I recognise this hermaphrodite image: it's taken from the Aphex Twin's "Windowlicker" video. Which implies there's some connection there as well. Any ideas? Perhaps this is all part of the enduring (and endearing) enigma of the Residents, which I have no desire to see undermined, but I can't help being curious... From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 17:28:15 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:28:15 +0000 Subject: OFF: The Residents In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Arin Komins writes >On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > >:> >:>No cyclopses, eh? >:> >: >:Now what IS the plural of cyclops? Can it be plural? >: >:The kind of dilemma which would make ideal subject matter for a Residents >:song, in fact. > >It can be plural. either cyclopes or cyclopses. > >>From the oxford english dictionary: > > > OED Entry Search > > [1][leftarrow.sm.gif] Next Search (return to the search form) > >Term: cyclops > > Found: one match Fascinating! And Percy Bysshe Shelley makes another appearance on boc-l. Why, he's getting to be a regular. -- Nick Medford From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Feb 13 17:54:07 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:54:07 -0500 Subject: OFF: The Residents Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:25:41 +0000, Nick Medford wrote: >Seeing there's all this interest in the Residents here, and given that >lots of people here like Gong, perhaps I can put a question to the >assembled sages of boc-l ... Guilty on both counts! Although I've only seen the Residents once, on their "Cube E" (American blues/country roots music & Elvis tunes) tour ... I remember I picked up a copy of the 'Subterranean Modern' LP at the show, with (as-of-then) otherwise-unreleased tracks by the Residents, MX-80 Sound, Tuxedomoon and Chrome (with one of their best-ever songs, "Meet You In The Subway"). >On the cassette release of Planet Gong "Floating Anarchy '91" (note: '91 >not '77), Hmm ... I've never heard (or heard of) this one ... >Daevid Allen says at one point- "now you may have heard about >this band called the Residents, well we've had our connections with them >over the years, and we're ready to be influenced by them.." - the band then >play a song called "Teeth" which I think may be a cover of a song off "Mark >of the Mole" (one of the few Residents albums I've never heard). I'd like >to know if this really is a Residents song, Probably "Smack Your Lips (Clap your Teeth)" from the second album of the "Mole" trilogy, 'Tunes of Two Cities'. >but what I REALLY want to know >is: what are the 'connections' that D.A. refers to? I'm sure there are many. One thing about the Residents is that half the original lineup left the band after the "Mole" tour in the early 80's, and all subsequent Residents tours have used numerous guest musicians. None of the guest musicians whose identities I'm aware of have worked directly with Daevid Allen AFAIK, they can be closely related to folks who have. >I can think of one connection: Chris Cutler appears on the NY Gong >album, also on Daevid's "N'Existe Pas", and he's done some stuff with the >R's, but that's pretty tenuous and one feels there's something a bit more >substantial being hinted at. Anybody? Snakefinger worked with the Residents and a ton of other people, but I can't think of a direct connection to Allen/Gong. I could probably arrange to ask Daevid next time he's in SF (but last time was only a couple months ago, so who know when the next will be?). >Also: a further mystery- on the inside back cover of the "Our Poor, Our >Tired, Our Huddled Masses" CD booklet, there's a small pic of the eye-guys, >plus a bearded man who's sporting an impressive pair of breasts (really). I >recognise this hermaphrodite image: it's taken from the Aphex Twin's >"Windowlicker" video. Which implies there's some connection there as well. >Any ideas? Could be, but I've seen plenty of instances of the same graphic coincidentally being used for album art by different, completely unrelated bands. But I'd be pretty surprised if mr. James isn't well aware of the Residents. >Perhaps this is all part of the enduring (and endearing) enigma of the >Residents, which I have no desire to see undermined, but I can't help being >curious... More information on the eyeballed ones can be found at: http://www.residents.com/ -Doug ceres at sirius.com From sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 18:39:08 2001 From: sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:39:08 -0000 Subject: Brain Surgeons CD`s in the UK Message-ID: I managed to grab a couple of Brain Surgeons tracks from mp3.com and am intriged. Anybody out there had any experience getting hold of the Brain Surgeons cd`s in the UK at a reasonable price? Or even from the US without getting hammered for import tax etc? Amazon.co.uk list four of them but at silly prices and they say it`ll take a month. Artist-shop has them at a far more reasonable price but I have no experience of ordering direct from the states and have heard a package of 5 cd`s may get stopped at customs and have a load of charges added on that`ll double the cost anyway. Also Amazon don`t have Mappratice which I especially want (for the Hawkwind connection). Any help or suggestions would be appriciated. Si ------ The Alice Cooper Trivia File: http://www.alicecoopertrivia.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tindex.html From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 18:45:25 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:45:25 +0000 Subject: Brain Surgeons CD`s in the UK In-Reply-To: <00cb01c09616$2e946d20$0100a8c0@kermitz> Message-ID: In message <00cb01c09616$2e946d20$0100a8c0 at kermitz>, Si Halley writes > I have no experience >of ordering direct from the states and have heard a package of 5 cd`s may >get stopped at customs and have a load of charges added on that`ll double >the cost anyway. For albums which are only available on import it's well worth the risk. I've ordered CDs from the US many times, only twice have I been unlucky enough to get clobbered for import duty, and even then the total price was cheaper than buying UK imports. -- Nick Medford From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 19:17:19 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:17:19 +0000 Subject: OFF: The Residents In-Reply-To: <3ljCntA7Sai6Ewl$@hermit0.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <3ljCntA7Sai6Ewl$@hermit0.demon.co.uk>, Nick Medford writes >> >>No cyclopses, eh? >> > >Now what IS the plural of cyclops? Can it be plural? Oh C'mon! Clearly, cyclops is a plural already. The singular is cyclop. Jeez. -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 19:20:27 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:20:27 +0000 Subject: Completism In-Reply-To: <200102131705.RAA06474@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <200102131705.RAA06474 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >> Some years ago, about 1992 I guess, there used to be a guy called Ande = >> who lived in Bridgwater who dealt in Hawkwind stuff. > >Ande Tucker. He's still around these parts occasionally. thought he lived in Calif. these days? -- Jon From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 13 21:11:04 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:41:04 +1030 Subject: HW: HAWK-POSTER and Living DEATH appearance Message-ID: Thanks Bud Ordered one just now!! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:24 AM Subject: Re: HW: HAWK-POSTER and Living DEATH appearance > dear friends..., I mean...MY FRIENDS,,,,,,,,, > > just to let you know I'm back.....since I keep not dying (nasty habit- > ..that-, clinging to life and material hawk-possesions).... > > anywayhow.......MAJOR THANKS to any who inquired if I OD'd yet (on the > Wind, of course!) and cared..... > > > haven't been watching this list so...... > > > I just found a new HAWKWIND poster that is available from "PUSH-POSTERS" in > the UK, and although it's a brand new generic one, it's really TASTY!!!!!!! > and the price is REAL NICE!! bout 6 bucks USA.....can't even get half my > Heineken for that!!!! > > they're site is WWW.PUSHPOSTERS.COM in case ANDY G doesnt want to sell > rolled paper goods!!!! > > As for my friends like Larry, Doug(s), Darrin, etc ...I'm commin, I commin.... > > > Peace Mike Coleman > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 13 21:14:54 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:44:54 +1030 Subject: OFF: Quake skins Message-ID: No but sounds interesting How about some politician skins for the monsters & evil guys inc. Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Lockwood To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:48 AM Subject: OFF: Quake skins > I was just wondering if anyone had ever seen or contemplated Lemmy, Dave B > or Eric skins for Quake III...? > > Chortle. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 13 21:15:44 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:45:44 +1030 Subject: OFF: Quake skins Message-ID: I have a Diablo 2 Charachter named SirHawkwind Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Ball To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:02 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Quake skins > No, but I have a bard character on Everquest called Hawkewind. > (Corny I know, it wouldn't let me have Hawkwind) > > Andy > > > > > > At 14:18 13/02/01 -0000, you wrote: > >I was just wondering if anyone had ever seen or contemplated Lemmy, Dave B > >or Eric skins for Quake III...? > > > >Chortle. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Rich. > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 13 21:19:24 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:49:24 +1030 Subject: OFF: The Residents Message-ID: RE: OFF: The ResidentsThe Who? :>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:42 AM Subject: Re: OFF: The Residents Just Curious: Are there any Hawkwind fans out there who either listen to or collect material by The Residents?? Just wondering- Dr. Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 13 18:10:53 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:10:53 +0000 Subject: OFF: The Residents In-Reply-To: <200102132254.RAA28029@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200102132254.RAA28029 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >I remember I picked up a copy of the 'Subterranean Modern' LP at the show, >with (as-of-then) otherwise-unreleased tracks by the Residents, MX-80 >Sound, Tuxedomoon and Chrome (with one of their best-ever songs, "Meet You >In The Subway"). I've got that album too- a real obscurity nowadays- in fact I thought mine might be the only copy :-) > >>On the cassette release of Planet Gong "Floating Anarchy '91" (note: '91 >>not '77), > >Hmm ... I've never heard (or heard of) this one ... It was a GAS tape release, although apparently it's also been released on CD with extra tracks and cleaned-up sound. I can post track details etc. if you're interested. > >>Daevid Allen says at one point- "now you may have heard about >>this band called the Residents, well we've had our connections with them >>over the years, and we're ready to be influenced by them.." - the band then >>play a song called "Teeth" which I think may be a cover of a song off "Mark >>of the Mole" (one of the few Residents albums I've never heard). I'd like >>to know if this really is a Residents song, > >Probably "Smack Your Lips (Clap your Teeth)" from the second album of >the "Mole" trilogy, 'Tunes of Two Cities'. Yeah, sorry, that's the one I meant. I've seen the track listing but never heard the album. > >>but what I REALLY want to know >>is: what are the 'connections' that D.A. refers to? > >I'm sure there are many. One thing about the Residents is that half the >original lineup left the band after the "Mole" tour in the early 80's That's if you believe the Cryptic Corporation guys were actually the Residents, which I do, but not everyone does. > I could probably arrange >to ask Daevid next time he's in SF Yes please! >>Also: a further mystery- on the inside back cover of the "Our Poor, Our >>Tired, Our Huddled Masses" CD booklet, there's a small pic of the eye-guys, >>plus a bearded man who's sporting an impressive pair of breasts (really). I >>recognise this hermaphrodite image: it's taken from the Aphex Twin's >>"Windowlicker" video. Which implies there's some connection there as well. >>Any ideas? > >Could be, but I've seen plenty of instances of the same graphic >coincidentally being used for album art by different, completely unrelated >bands. Yeah but the bearded guy in question is actually Richard James (with digitally-enhanced chest region). > But I'd be pretty surprised if mr. James isn't well aware of the >Residents. Likewise. -- Nick Medford From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 13 22:12:44 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:42:44 +1030 Subject: OFF: The Residents Message-ID: > >Now what IS the plural of cyclops? Can it be plural? > > Oh C'mon! Clearly, cyclops is a plural already. > > The singular is cyclop. What about a room full of cycloptic individuals? Cyclosis - the rare condition where an entitiy has but one eye on "it's" forehead!! Wherths my falth teeff damnit :>)))) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Browne To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:47 AM Subject: Re: OFF: The Residents > In article <3ljCntA7Sai6Ewl$@hermit0.demon.co.uk>, Nick Medford > writes > >> > >>No cyclopses, eh? > >> > > > >Now what IS the plural of cyclops? Can it be plural? > > Oh C'mon! Clearly, cyclops is a plural already. > > The singular is cyclop. > > Jeez. > -- > Jon From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Feb 13 22:43:36 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:43:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: The Residents In-Reply-To: <019101c0962e$11688b60$0bcd223f@michaelangelo68>; from michaelangelo68@OZEMAIL.COM.AU on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 12:49:24PM +1030 Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 12:49:24PM +1030, Michael W Blackman wrote: > RE: OFF: The ResidentsThe Who? > > :>) No, no, not The Who! The Residents! :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: Is there anything in astrology? Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm naturally skeptical. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Feb 13 22:45:32 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:45:32 -0500 Subject: OFF: The Residents In-Reply-To: <01d301c09634$5fa9c040$0bcd223f@michaelangelo68>; from michaelangelo68@OZEMAIL.COM.AU on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 01:42:44PM +1030 Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 01:42:44PM +1030, Michael W Blackman wrote: > Cyclosis - the rare condition where an entitiy has but one eye on "it's" > forehead!! I thought cyclosis was the condition of wrecked knees you get from riding a way-too-small bike :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: Is there anything in astrology? Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm naturally skeptical. From CultJacket at AOL.COM Wed Feb 14 02:52:57 2001 From: CultJacket at AOL.COM (Chris Martin) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:52:57 -0500 Subject: Stallk Forrest CD Avaliable Now Message-ID: The Stallk Forrest Group CD is available now by order from Rhino Records It comes with a 16 page booklet as well. There are only 5000 copys and thats it. So if you want to order do it soon. The price is 19.98. All major credit cards accepted and it will only be sold on line from. To order or for info http://rhinohandmade.com/RHIP/7716/index.html From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Wed Feb 14 01:37:10 2001 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (Thomas Rickert) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:37:10 -0600 Subject: Stallk Forrest CD Avaliable Now Message-ID: Is it worth getting? Can someone give a rundown on what it sounds like? t Chris Martin wrote: > The Stallk Forrest Group CD is available now by order from Rhino Records > It comes with a 16 page booklet as well. There are only 5000 copys and thats it. > So if you want to order do it soon. The price is 19.98. All major credit cards accepted and it will only be sold on line from. > To order or for info > http://rhinohandmade.com/RHIP/7716/index.html From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Feb 14 03:41:48 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:41:48 -0500 Subject: HW: RUSSIAN CD ROM AND ASSORTED YAKKK In-Reply-To: <011f01c0962b$63267a00$0bcd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: AHHHHHHHH The air is clear ...and full of hate..........breathing deep the gathering gloom..... MMMMMMMMM just the way I like it..... Would anyone be willing to say if there has been any new weird hawkwind comps that have snuck through the cracks in the past couple months ??? PLEASE?? PRETTY PLEASE WITH HASSAN ON TOP???? (ELI?? ANDY??? ANYONE???) does anyone care to say what their feelings/comments are about the Russian CD-ROM anthology that just creeped up on EBAY!!! piece of shit?? cool as hell?? inbetween??? (item# 1409954146) (don't forget your happy bidding and good luck....VOMIT) Got this Wilfried??? (you know I know you do) (me too) (OF COURSE) JD...they say 3 strikes and your out.....are you open to being begged for a third... I'll not fail....will make it home..... apologies namedrops but I like it.....I like it....so be a friend and let me drop more....all you....(maybe?) (no?) (NO!!)?? ---still gonna hoard no matter what!!....records are my best friend anyway....ALWAYS... I saw a listing for a CD called "The Legends Collection".......is this for real....or a lame listing??? 2 more plugs....DOUG P......it's here....I haven't eaten my meal yet......will pay....GOD SMILES DOWN ON YOU.(or up, sideways, simultaneus directions instantaniously and frozen eternities...it's emotionally based/charged )...THIS IS TRUE...... RENEE BLACKMAN IS MY FRIEND .......I've NOT a negative vibe......TO THE CONTRARY...... Mike From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Wed Feb 14 06:15:32 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:15:32 -0000 Subject: BOC: Cheap CDs Message-ID: Thought some of you might be interested: If you're looking to get hold of some hard-to-find BOC CDs, have a look at CDZone's website (www.cdzone.co.uk). They're currently offering the first album for ?5.72, Tyranny & Mutation for ?5.18 (both French imports) and even claim to have Imaginos (?10.25). I've stuck in an order, but naturally I'll believe it when I see it/them. Past experience with this lot has been mixed. Watch this space. Dave From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 14 06:16:53 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:16:53 GMT Subject: Completism In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:13:09 +0000 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > Whoa, is time looping back on itself, am I having a deja-vu attack, what? > Didn't these exact same posts appear a few weeks ago? Whas'appenin'? It's Groundhogs Day. > In message <003501c095fe$34709880$7c1528d5 at starfield>, Captain Bl at ck > writes > >I had a reply from Simon King, of all people, to this query. He tells me > >there was a recording made of British Tribal Music with vocals, apparently > >when the band were in, er, high spirits. But it was never officially > >released, so someone must have obtained a copy and pressed it up. > >> > Some years ago, about 1992 I guess, there used to be a guy > >> > who lived in Bridgwater who dealt in Hawkwind stuff. > >> Ande Tucker. He's still around these parts occasionally. > >> > =20 One of the items he had for sale once was a 7" single > >> > called "Oh my = > >> > Fingers They Do Ache", which apparently was a version of "British > >> > Tribal > >> > Music" but with vocals. Anybody know anything > >> > about this? > >> 'fraid not. > >> > Also regarding HW film footage, remember the BBC Michael > >> > Moorcock = > >> > program which featured a clip of HW playing Silver Machine? > >> Time Out of Mind. > >> > Can someone = tell me if that was the TOTP clip > >> Yes, it was the ToTP clip. I have both on video. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 14 06:19:24 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:19:24 GMT Subject: Completism In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:20:27 +0000 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > >Ande Tucker. He's still around these parts occasionally. > > thought he lived in Calif. these days? I'd meant these virtual parts. geography just confuses things. FoFP From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 14 08:09:56 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:09:56 -0500 Subject: HW: More Vinyl to Trade Message-ID: Hi, My sort-out is now complete; all vinyl has been transferred to CD and I have the following vinyl left if anyone is interested in trading for live recordings, videos etc: Dave Brock: Earthed to the Ground Agents of Chaos Huw Lloyd Langton: Outside the Law Like an Arrow Night air Inner City Unit: Punkadelic The Presidents Tapes Blood & Bone EP Underground Zero: Through The Looking Glass Never Reach the Stars All are in excellent condition. From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Feb 14 09:21:14 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:21:14 -0500 Subject: BOC: News from the wire Message-ID: ---- STALK FORREST GROUP CD TO BE RELEASED Rhino Handmade Records announces the soon-to-be-released CD of the Stalk Forrest Group recordings! 30+ years later, the long languishing recordings that the band made as the Stalk Forrest Group are coming to light in a limited-edition release by Rhino Handmade Records. 18 tracks have been compiled for the CD. Although it won't be released until April, you can pre-order it now. Probably a good idea, considering the probable sales. Go here: http://rhinohandmade.com/RHIP/7716/index.html -- "Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves. " -Abraham Lincoln From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Feb 14 09:48:28 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:48:28 -0500 Subject: Stallk Forrest CD Avaliable Now In-Reply-To: <3A8A2796.6E24B57B@utarlg.uta.edu> Message-ID: At 12:37 AM 2/14/01 -0600, Thomas Rickert wrote: >Is it worth getting? Can someone give a rundown on what it sounds like? If you are seriously into BOC, it is an essential look into the history of the band. It is *NOT* the band as they were molded into trying to be Columbia's black sabbath, but I feel it is a key element of what they came to be. Its more kind of a trippy blusey sound, a very different sound than even the first album. Well, perhaps "Sir Rastus Bear" sounds like it a bit. You'll definitely pick out certain riffs that they recycled on later songs. ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Feb 14 09:32:17 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:32:17 EDT Subject: Stallk Forrest CD Avaliable Now In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010214094828.017df2f0@flite.net> Message-ID: On 14 Feb 01, at 9:48, Andrew Apold wrote: > If you are seriously into BOC, it is an essential look into the > history of the band. It is *NOT* the band as they were molded into > trying to be Columbia's black sabbath, but I feel it is a key element > of what they came to be. Its more kind of a trippy blusey sound, a > very different sound than even the first album. Well, perhaps "Sir > Rastus Bear" sounds like it a bit. You'll definitely pick out certain > riffs that they recycled on later songs. Already ordered it! And what about the other half of the fan club mail? BOC's back catalog finally getting remastered, supposedly with bonus tracks etc! Damn, this might actually be something worthwhile... theo From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Wed Feb 14 11:00:28 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:00:28 -0500 Subject: BOC: Another bootleg tree, a little different this time. Message-ID: Brad, I mailed the blanks yesterday. I included a third blank as a spare in case something goes wrong with the burn. If all goes well, please keep the extra disc with my compliments. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Wed Feb 14 11:11:29 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:11:29 -0500 Subject: BOC: Re: Stallk Forrest CD Avaliable Now Message-ID: >> If you are seriously into BOC, it is an essential look into the >> history of the band. It is *NOT* the band as they were molded into >> trying to be Columbia's black sabbath, but I feel it is a key element >> of what they came to be. Its more kind of a trippy blusey sound, a >> very different sound than even the first album. Well, perhaps "Sir >> Rastus Bear" sounds like it a bit. You'll definitely pick out certain >> riffs that they recycled on later songs. > >Already ordered it! Ditto! Man, and here I was thinking these old tracks were lost forever... Heh. This is very neat! Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Wed Feb 14 11:51:02 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:51:02 -0500 Subject: Cambridge gig pushed back until at least late April: Message-ID: I received word from The Cambridge Rock Society this morning, informing me that they have lost the date(s) for March due to their ongoing negotiations with Bedouin. They are now talking about scheduling the show in late April, but what will really happen, is I think anyone's guess... Thanks for all the support regarding the staging of this show. I cannot guarantee whether or not Sloterdijk will still be part of this event if and when it happens, and I certainly can't speak for any of the other artists. I will try to make it, if at all possible. I look forward to playing in the UK, and hope to find the opportunity soon, maybe still in Cambridge, maybe somewhere else.. All the best to everyone, Peace, Mike Burro (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Feb 14 13:10:41 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:10:41 -0500 Subject: Completism Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:16:53 GMT, M Holmes wrote: >It's Groundhogs Day. In that case, I'll have to split. From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Feb 14 13:41:44 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:41:44 -0600 Subject: OFF: astralasia/magma question Message-ID: Hiya guys, I just finished listening to Astralasia's Unveria Zekt (thank you CDS). Is this album remixes of Magma's Univeria Zekt? (I figure that it must be magma related somehow, since the track listing is: unveria zekt (kobaian love chant) unveria zekt (fur dihhel) unveria zekt (wlasik steuhn abcension mix) unveria zekt (mekanik mix) unveria zekt (1001 mix) ...and kobaian is the mythical magma language, isn't it? A little judicious web searching revealed a Magma album by the name of Univeria Zekt, which is close ;-) ) ....and is the original Magma as good as the remixes? Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Feb 14 14:04:13 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:04:13 -0500 Subject: HW: RUSSIAN CD ROM AND ASSORTED YAKKK In-Reply-To: ; from deltawave@METRONET.COM on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 03:41:48AM -0500 Message-ID: Looks like a disk full of MP3s. What a scam! On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 03:41:48AM -0500, Mike Coleman wrote: > AHHHHHHHH > > > The air is clear ...and full of hate..........breathing deep the gathering > gloom..... MMMMMMMMM just the way I like it..... > > > Would anyone be willing to say if there has been any new weird hawkwind > comps that have snuck through the cracks in the past couple months ??? > PLEASE?? PRETTY PLEASE WITH HASSAN ON TOP???? (ELI?? ANDY??? ANYONE???) > > does anyone care to say what their feelings/comments are about the Russian > CD-ROM anthology that just creeped up on EBAY!!! piece of shit?? cool as > hell?? inbetween??? (item# 1409954146) (don't forget your happy bidding > and good luck....VOMIT) > > Got this Wilfried??? (you know I know you do) (me too) (OF COURSE) > > JD...they say 3 strikes and your out.....are you open to being begged for a > third... > > > I'll not fail....will make it home..... > > > apologies namedrops but I like it.....I like it....so be a friend and let > me drop more....all you....(maybe?) (no?) (NO!!)?? ---still gonna hoard no > matter what!!....records are my best friend anyway....ALWAYS... > > > I saw a listing for a CD called "The Legends Collection".......is this for > real....or a lame listing??? > > > 2 more plugs....DOUG P......it's here....I haven't eaten my meal > yet......will pay....GOD SMILES DOWN ON YOU.(or up, sideways, simultaneus > directions instantaniously and frozen eternities...it's emotionally > based/charged )...THIS IS TRUE...... > > RENEE BLACKMAN IS MY FRIEND .......I've NOT a negative vibe......TO THE > CONTRARY...... > > > Mike -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: Is there anything in astrology? Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm naturally skeptical. From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Wed Feb 14 14:06:23 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:06:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: astralasia/magma question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Arin, >I just finished listening to Astralasia's Unveria Zekt >(thank you CDS). > >Is this album remixes of Magma's Univeria Zekt? [...] >A little judicious web searching revealed a Magma album >by the name of Univeria Zekt, which is close ;-) ) Univeria Zekt (it's the band's name btw, the album's name is "The Unnamables") is not a "real" Magma-album. It's a side project to introduce newcomers to the Magma-sound. The tracklisting is: You Speak and Speak Colegram / Altcheringa / Clementine / Something's Cast A Spell / Ourania / Africa Anteria / Undia Vander I haven't heard the Astralasia tracks, si I don't know if they are remixes, cover-versions or totally different songs. >...and kobaian is the mythical magma language, isn't it? Yup, it is. >....and is the original Magma as good as the remixes? I don't know those remixes, but Magma is a great band IMO. The music however is not for everyone (my mother for example says it's music for mentally disturbed persons ). As an introduction to the band I would recommend the live-album "Hhai". It's very good and should be available even in the US (if you buy Magma-CDs try to get the 7th-Records ones and not those from the Tomato-label). There's also a whole gig available from the "House of Blues" (LA) web-site (www.hob.com). hamtai D+R np: Magma, "K?hntark?sz" From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Feb 14 14:21:16 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:21:16 -0500 Subject: HW: RUSSIAN CD ROM CON'T...... In-Reply-To: <20010214140413.A18242@telepres.com> Message-ID: >Looks like a disk full of MP3s. What a scam! that was my assumption........mine goes into a box........never to be heard from....only looked at...... BUT! maybe if David Brock is still reading posts he'll save the day and have his manager(s) shake 'em up, and shake 'em down.... ...... don't want to see more of these myself.........not too many anyway... so Dave if you're reading, will you step up to the BOC mic soon.....just say some stuff....doesn't really matter what..... I'll get what I came for.... Peacecheers.... From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 14 14:44:43 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:44:43 -0000 Subject: OFF: The Residents Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- >On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Nick Medford wrote: >>> >>No cyclopses, eh? >> > >Now what IS the plural of cyclops? Can it be plural? Bi focals. jill (The ayes have it) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From coral at APORT.RU Wed Feb 14 16:04:12 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:04:12 +0300 Subject: HW: RUSSIAN CD ROM CON'T...... Message-ID: > >Looks like a disk full of MP3s. What a scam! > > > > that was my assumption........mine goes into a box........never to be > heard from....only looked at...... Well... it's russia, the cd piracy is in its fine form here. And there's no law about mp3... If they make pirate cds - they can be charged, but not for mp3. And I guess all of these mp3s can be downloaded via Napster from a lot of users. If someone buy this compilation of mp3s (of not so good quality) and one likes some albums - one can buy them on original cds. Though - of course, this company shouldn't make these mp3 cds for sale :( Alice From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 14 16:14:07 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:14:07 -0000 Subject: HW; LPs to trade Message-ID: John, The Lps went off to you today. Regards, COLIN From coral at APORT.RU Wed Feb 14 16:15:44 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:15:44 +0300 Subject: HW: RUSSIAN CD ROM CON'T...... Message-ID: Just looked at the price of this mp3 cd on ebay.com. They are crazy... They sell it for $14,5. But here in Russia these mp3 cds cost about $2. best regards, Alice From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Wed Feb 14 17:20:17 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:20:17 -0500 Subject: HW: More Vinyl to Trade Message-ID: Oh my! I could certainly use all the Huw Lloyd-Langton LPs and the Dave Brock "Earthed to the Ground" LP. Let me know what you think. John Majka > Hi, > > My sort-out is now complete; all vinyl has been transferred to CD and I have > the following vinyl left if anyone is interested in trading for live > recordings, videos etc: > > Dave Brock: > Earthed to the Ground > Agents of Chaos > > Huw Lloyd Langton: > Outside the Law > Like an Arrow > Night air > > Inner City Unit: > Punkadelic > The Presidents Tapes > Blood & Bone EP > > Underground Zero: > Through The Looking Glass > Never Reach the Stars > > All are in excellent condition. From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 14 18:07:47 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:07:47 -0000 Subject: HW: More Vinyl to Trade Message-ID: Hi John, I think that "Like an Arrow" has gone as has "Earthed" but Outside the Law and Night Air are stll around. Both are in beautiful condition (sleeve and vinyl); if the others fall through I will let you know straight away but in the meantime I will put the 2 HLL ones aside for you. Regards, COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Majka" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:20 PM Subject: Re: HW: More Vinyl to Trade > Oh my! I could certainly use all the Huw Lloyd-Langton LPs and the Dave > Brock "Earthed to the Ground" LP. Let me know what you think. > John Majka > > > > Hi, > > > > My sort-out is now complete; all vinyl has been transferred to CD and I > have > > the following vinyl left if anyone is interested in trading for live > > recordings, videos etc: > > > > Dave Brock: > > Earthed to the Ground > > Agents of Chaos > > > > Huw Lloyd Langton: > > Outside the Law > > Like an Arrow > > Night air > > > > Inner City Unit: > > Punkadelic > > The Presidents Tapes > > Blood & Bone EP > > > > Underground Zero: > > Through The Looking Glass > > Never Reach the Stars > > > > All are in excellent condition. > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Feb 14 18:40:40 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:40:40 -0500 Subject: OFF:VDGG Box Message-ID: Any VDGG fans here seen this website? http://www.fuzzlogic.com/vdgg/ -Doug ceres at sirius.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 14 20:04:32 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:34:32 +1030 Subject: HW: RUSSIAN CD ROM AND ASSORTED YAKKK Message-ID: If you need some poetry visit my poets corner http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/poetry.htm You will be filled with the joy of ages long forgotten..... Your hemroyds will cease to feel rotten You will see that the world is not sodden We will live in peace no longer downtrodden and the answer to the question that has plagued mankind thru the ages Is it too big.... is it too small?? Have I too much.... or not enough at all??? Michael Blackbean ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:11 PM Subject: HW: RUSSIAN CD ROM AND ASSORTED YAKKK > AHHHHHHHH > > > The air is clear ...and full of hate..........breathing deep the gathering > gloom..... MMMMMMMMM just the way I like it..... > > > Would anyone be willing to say if there has been any new weird hawkwind > comps that have snuck through the cracks in the past couple months ??? > PLEASE?? PRETTY PLEASE WITH HASSAN ON TOP???? (ELI?? ANDY??? ANYONE???) > > does anyone care to say what their feelings/comments are about the Russian > CD-ROM anthology that just creeped up on EBAY!!! piece of shit?? cool as > hell?? inbetween??? (item# 1409954146) (don't forget your happy bidding > and good luck....VOMIT) > > Got this Wilfried??? (you know I know you do) (me too) (OF COURSE) > > JD...they say 3 strikes and your out.....are you open to being begged for a > third... > > > I'll not fail....will make it home..... > > > apologies namedrops but I like it.....I like it....so be a friend and let > me drop more....all you....(maybe?) (no?) (NO!!)?? ---still gonna hoard no > matter what!!....records are my best friend anyway....ALWAYS... > > > I saw a listing for a CD called "The Legends Collection".......is this for > real....or a lame listing??? > > > 2 more plugs....DOUG P......it's here....I haven't eaten my meal > yet......will pay....GOD SMILES DOWN ON YOU.(or up, sideways, simultaneus > directions instantaniously and frozen eternities...it's emotionally > based/charged )...THIS IS TRUE...... > > RENEE BLACKMAN IS MY FRIEND .......I've NOT a negative vibe......TO THE > CONTRARY...... > > > Mike > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Feb 14 20:41:20 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 01:41:20 +0000 Subject: OFF: Newest Hawkwind fan In-Reply-To: <200102122110.PAA17438@overlord.stc.comm.mot.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Frank Weil wrote: > Mother and baby are doing fine now, but the delivery could have gone better. After 11 > hours of labor, the doctors decided that a C-Section needed to be done immediately. > This caught us off guard, to say the least, since my wife was having an almost > textbook-perfect pregnancy up to then! Fortunately, there was enough time for me to > put on scrubs and be in the O.R. Helen was born less than an hour after the C-Section > was decided. It all still seems vaguely unreal at this point. Sounds like a nasty labour but with a good result! Congratulations! > I haven't tried playing any Hawkwind to her yet, but I have no doubt she will be a big > fan. :-) It's a matter of in utero conditioning :-) We had Benedict dancing to Monster Magnet in the womb :-) > P.S. Who needs illicit drugs when sleep deprivation has such interesting effects! These are words by which I all too frequently live. You have a while to get used to it coming :-/ Best wishes, yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Wed Feb 14 21:22:26 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:22:26 -0500 Subject: OFF:VDGG Box Message-ID: From: "Douglas Pearson" > Any VDGG fans here seen this website? > > http://www.fuzzlogic.com/vdgg/ Interesting. I just started getting into them a little more. Started with Peter Hammil in the mid-late 70's (Nadirs Big Chance, pH7, one other). Jerry From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 15 08:43:17 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:13:17 +1030 Subject: HW Regarding Nagmeister 2001 Message-ID: Hi - it's NAG-Mesiter 2001 Details on the Festival would be so groovy & cruisy ..... please - please - let us know - when where & how and any other relavent details ....... Oh glorious leaders!! Hail Hawkwind!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Feb 15 09:26:51 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:26:51 -0500 Subject: Stallk Forrest CD Avaliable Now In-Reply-To: <3A8A2796.6E24B57B@utarlg.uta.edu> Message-ID: Thomas Rickert wrote: > Is it worth getting? Can someone give a rundown on what it sounds like? From http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Acnnnsnpnntjsnnnj "Of course this is of considerable interest to fans of Blue Oyster Cult, but general psychedelic collectors with little or no love for that band will find this worth seeking as well. Imagining a poppier Love with higher vocals and instrumental arrangements more akin to Doorsy guitars and organs gets you a little close to picturing the Stalk-Forrest Group sound." When I've played it for fans of The Doors or the Grateful Dead, they've all liked it. Brian > > Chris Martin wrote: > >> The Stallk Forrest Group CD is available now by order from Rhino Records >> It comes with a 16 page booklet as well. There are only 5000 copys and thats >> it. >> So if you want to order do it soon. The price is 19.98. All major credit >> cards accepted and it will only be sold on line from. >> To order or for info >> http://rhinohandmade.com/RHIP/7716/index.html From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Feb 15 10:19:43 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:19:43 -0500 Subject: HW: Even more vinyl!!!!! Message-ID: Hi, Having looked in another cupboard I also have the following to trade for live recordings/videos if anyone is interested: Hawkwind: PXR5 Church of Hawkwind (including booklet) 1st Album (picture disk) Friends & Relations Friends & Relations - Twice Upon a Time Friends & Relations Volume 3 Robert Calvert: Test Tube Conceived All are in excellent condition (both sleeves and vinyl). Regards, COLIN From robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK Thu Feb 15 10:27:07 2001 From: robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK (Stuckey, Robert) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:27:07 -0000 Subject: HW: Dreams bed centre Message-ID: Me and my girlfriend have just moved to a house in the west country, we had to get a new bed and one place we looked in was Dreams bed centre in Chippenham. I couldn't belive that they have a range of beds called Hawkwind!!!? Bizarre! bye - Rob -- This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 15 11:15:50 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:15:50 GMT Subject: HW: Dreams bed centre In-Reply-To: Stuckey, Robert's message of Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:27:07 -0000 Message-ID: Stuckey, Robert writes: > Me and my girlfriend have just moved to a house in the west country, > we had to get a new bed and one place we looked in was Dreams bed > centre in Chippenham. > I couldn't belive that they have a range of beds called Hawkwind!!!? That'll be related to the rare "Nocturnal" CD compilation which had the tracklist: Nocturne Down Through The Night In the Mood 3 Or 4 Erections In the Course of a Night Space Sex Pipe Dreams Dreaming City Dream Worker Wastelands of Sleep Machine Dream The Iron Dream Sleep of 1000 Tears Dream Dancers You Know You're Only Dreaming Ship of Dreams Empty Dreams Sword of Dawn The Awakening Mask of Morning From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Feb 15 11:19:42 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:19:42 EST Subject: OFF: The Residents Message-ID: In a message dated 2/13/01 7:01:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > >I remember I picked up a copy of the 'Subterranean Modern' LP at the show, > >with (as-of-then) otherwise-unreleased tracks by the Residents, MX-80 > >Sound, Tuxedomoon and Chrome (with one of their best-ever songs, "Meet You > >In The Subway"). Heeeeeey...you must mean "Anti-Fade", rather???? well, we never did agree on everything... > > I've got that album too- a real obscurity nowadays- in fact I thought mine > might be the only copy :-) I'd like to say that I found it, but I only found it in my station's library. Really dig the Tuxedo Moon stuff I found there as well. There are several other TM albums there...I wonder if these songs are representative... Chuck From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Feb 15 11:36:08 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:36:08 EST Subject: OFF: The Residents// Rozz-Tox Manifesto Message-ID: i used to get my residents vinyl straight from ralph; on the inside back page of their catalog was something called "The Rozz-Tox Manifesto", writ by a fellow named Gary Panter. i wasnt converted or convinced into anything = it reflected much of what i was thinking already = but it remained taped to my wall for years. check it out, why dontcha! "<>" The ROZZ-TOX Manifesto From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Thu Feb 15 12:28:19 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:28:19 -0000 Subject: HW: Meet up before Croydon gig? Message-ID: Hi folks, anyone want to meet up before the Croydon gig on the 25th? multimap.com lists two pubs nearby, The George and Yates Wine Lodge (dress code: white stilletos compulsory), both a couple of streets away. Anyone know the area? Cheers, Mark From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Feb 15 14:12:07 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:12:07 -0000 Subject: OFF: astralasia/magma question Message-ID: apart from sounding a bit like the Magma vocal line off something or other which presumably they've sampled or tried to copy, the rest of it has absolutely nothing at all to do with Magma in anyway, shape or form. But if you want to be seduced by Magma, get 'Attahk' and if you want your head blown apart by the band get 'Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh'. Thier latest double CD is a double CD of drum solos - now who the hell else would do that!!! What a band. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:41 PM Subject: OFF: astralasia/magma question > Hiya guys, > > I just finished listening to Astralasia's Unveria Zekt > (thank you CDS). > > Is this album remixes of Magma's Univeria Zekt? > > (I figure that it must be magma related somehow, > since the track listing is: > > unveria zekt (kobaian love chant) > unveria zekt (fur dihhel) > unveria zekt (wlasik steuhn abcension mix) > unveria zekt (mekanik mix) > unveria zekt (1001 mix) > > ...and kobaian is the mythical magma language, isn't it? > > A little judicious web searching revealed a Magma album > by the name of Univeria Zekt, which is close ;-) ) > > ....and is the original Magma as good as the remixes? > > Thanks, > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Thu Feb 15 14:29:34 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:29:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: astralasia/magma question In-Reply-To: <025101c09786$0f20e600$7c16bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Hi, >But if you want to be seduced by Magma, get 'Attahk' and if you want your >head blown apart by the band get 'Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh'. ACK. Almost every Magma-album is excellent, the only album to stay away from IMO is "Merci" (although it has its moments, too). >Thier latest double CD is a double CD of drum solos - now who the hell >else would >do that!!! What a band. BTW, has anyone here already listened to the new 3CD Box-Set of the Theusz-Hamtaahk Trilogy? I'm interested in buying it, but don't know if it's worth the money (260 Francs which is about 45$). (c)IAO D+R np: Magma, "Mekanik Destruktiw Kommand?h" -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Feb 15 07:53:38 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 07:53:38 -0500 Subject: BOC: "recognizing genius" Message-ID: If you feel like setting up an altar for the glorification of Sandy Pearlman after following this link, http://www.mb5.com/bios/pearlman/ you should probably start listening to the Brain Surgeons. ah the fun Jason From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Feb 15 15:04:55 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:04:55 -0500 Subject: Stallk Forrest CD Avaliable Now Message-ID: Wouldn't it sound a bit like _Redeemed_? Thought that had that psychedelic feel to it..... Mike -- "Out of the quarrel with others we make rhetoric; out of the quarrel with ourselves we make poetry. " --W. B. Yeats Brian Halligan wrote: > Thomas Rickert wrote: > >> Is it worth getting? Can someone give a rundown on what it sounds like? > > > From > http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Acnnnsnpnntjsnnnj > > "Of course this is of considerable interest to fans of Blue Oyster Cult, but > general psychedelic collectors with little or no love for that band will > find this worth seeking as well. Imagining a poppier Love with higher vocals > and instrumental arrangements more akin to Doorsy guitars and organs gets > you a little close to picturing the Stalk-Forrest Group sound." > > When I've played it for fans of The Doors or the Grateful Dead, they've all > liked it. > > Brian > > >> Chris Martin wrote: >> >>> The Stallk Forrest Group CD is available now by order from Rhino Records >>> It comes with a 16 page booklet as well. There are only 5000 copys and thats >>> it. >>> So if you want to order do it soon. The price is 19.98. All major credit >>> cards accepted and it will only be sold on line from. >>> To order or for info >>> http://rhinohandmade.com/RHIP/7716/index.html >> From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Feb 15 15:30:12 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:30:12 -0500 Subject: Stallk Forrest CD Avaliable Now In-Reply-To: <3A8C3667.2040703@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: Mike Habiby wrote: > Wouldn't it sound a bit like _Redeemed_? Thought that had that > psychedelic feel to it..... It does sound like SFG in a way, especially Gil Blanco County, which has that country tinge. I'd say Redeemed comes closest musically to the SFG of any BOC tunes. Although lyrically, She's As Beautiful As a Foot is probably a better example. Brian > Mike > > -- > "Out of the quarrel with others we make rhetoric; out of the quarrel with > ourselves we make poetry. " --W. B. Yeats From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Feb 15 15:31:47 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:31:47 +0000 Subject: BOC: "recognizing genius" In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010215075338.006b5f6c@acmenet.net> Message-ID: In message <3.0.3.32.20010215075338.006b5f6c at acmenet.net>, Bolts of Ungodly Vision writes >If you feel like setting up an altar for the glorification of Sandy >Pearlman after following this link, > >http://www.mb5.com/bios/pearlman/ Did he write this stuff himself or merely pay someone else to do it? A few points: 'heavy metal' is a long established term in chemistry, it was used by William Burroughs as far back as the 50s (a 'heavy metal kid' was a typically Burroughsian twisted sci-fi creature, being someone with a dependency on said substances), and appears in Steppenwolf's 'Born To Be Wild' ('heavy metal thunder'). Where the claim that Pearlman 'coined' the term fits into all this I'm not sure, although maybe he did use it in a new context. Also: the Dictators- the 'first punk record'? Ever heard of the MC5? And so on. No altar has been raised in _my_ living room. -- Nick Medford From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Feb 15 16:15:15 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:15:15 -0500 Subject: BOC: "recognizing genius" Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:31:47 +0000, Nick Medford wrote: >In message <3.0.3.32.20010215075338.006b5f6c at acmenet.net>, Bolts of >Ungodly Vision writes >>If you feel like setting up an altar for the glorification of Sandy >>Pearlman after following this link, >> >>http://www.mb5.com/bios/pearlman/ > >Did he write this stuff himself or merely pay someone else to do it? Reads like a typical "keynote speaker" bio, which is what it is. >A few points: 'heavy metal' is a long established term in chemistry, it >was used by William Burroughs as far back as the 50s (a 'heavy metal kid' >was a typically Burroughsian twisted sci-fi creature, being someone with a >dependency on said substances), and appears in Steppenwolf's 'Born To Be >Wild' ('heavy metal thunder'). ... none of which refer to a style of music ... >Where the claim that Pearlman 'coined' the term fits into all this I'm >not sure, although maybe he did use it in a new context. I have no idea who first used the term to apply to music ... Hapdash and the Colored Coat perhaps? But it's probably safe to say that all subsequent usage of the term was inspired by/borrowed from Burroughs (and it would probably be a not-too-risky bet to make that even if Pearlman was one of the first to apply the term to music, that he got the idea from Meltzer). >Also: the Dictators- the 'first punk record'? Ever heard of the MC5? The Wailers (Seattle, not Kingston) were making records in the 50's. And 'Here Are The Sonics' was at least 5 years before "Looking At You". But hey, much better to say the Dictators made the first punk record than to say that the Sex Pistols (or, more accurately, the Damned - them again!) did. At least Jac Holzman (Elektra, signed the MC5 & Stooges) has never claimed (to the best of my knowledge, anyway) to have "discovered" or "invented" punk rock. Unlike Malcolm McClaren (not even Pearlman is egotistical enough to have claimed to "invent" it!). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Feb 15 17:52:55 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:52:55 +0000 Subject: BOC: "recognizing genius" In-Reply-To: <200102152115.QAA08007@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200102152115.QAA08007 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >> >>Did he write this stuff himself or merely pay someone else to do it? > >Reads like a typical "keynote speaker" bio, which is what it is. Maybe, I just thought there were some pretty arbitrary claims ('the first punk record', 'the first Goth record') being touted as objective facts. > >>A few points: 'heavy metal' is a long established term in chemistry, it >>was used by William Burroughs as far back as the 50s (a 'heavy metal kid' >>was a typically Burroughsian twisted sci-fi creature, being someone with a >>dependency on said substances), and appears in Steppenwolf's 'Born To Be >>Wild' ('heavy metal thunder'). > >... none of which refer to a style of music ... True, but that's the distinction I was making- between coining a term, and applying it in a new way. I mean, I don't know who first used the word 'bubblegum' to denote a genre of music, but whoever it was I doubt they'd claim to have invented the word itself. I know, I'm being pedantic, but bubbles (gum or otherwise) are there to be burst. > >>Where the claim that Pearlman 'coined' the term fits into all this I'm >>not sure, although maybe he did use it in a new context. > >I have no idea who first used the term to apply to music ... Hapdash and >the Colored Coat perhaps? But it's probably safe to say that all >subsequent usage of the term was inspired by/borrowed from Burroughs Indeedy. When in doubt, blame bad Uncle Bill! :-) > (and >it would probably be a not-too-risky bet to make that even if Pearlman was >one of the first to apply the term to music, that he got the idea from >Meltzer). > >>Also: the Dictators- the 'first punk record'? Ever heard of the MC5? > >The Wailers (Seattle, not Kingston) were making records in the 50's. >And 'Here Are The Sonics' was at least 5 years before "Looking At You". Yeah, I didn't really mean the MC5 were the first, I was just pointing up the arbitrariness of saying this or that was the first punk record. Although the news that there was something that could be called punk in the 50s surprises me! So who or what were the Wailers? >But hey, much better to say the Dictators made the first punk record than >to say that the Sex Pistols (or, more accurately, the Damned - them again! Their 'New Rose' single is often cited as the first UK punk record- again, completely arbitrary. >) >did. At least Jac Holzman (Elektra, signed the MC5 & Stooges) has never >claimed (to the best of my knowledge, anyway) to have "discovered" >or "invented" punk rock. Unlike Malcolm McClaren (not even Pearlman is >egotistical enough to have claimed to "invent" it!). Yeah, Maclaren would be a tough guy to beat in a battle of the egos. I once saw him in my local supermarket when I lived in Ladbroke Grove. He was buying a tin of Campbell's soup (and nothing else). I wondered if this was an impromptu piece of Situationist performance art (knowing Warhol reference etc.) although if it was, I suspect it was lost on the checkout girl. Actually it was lost on me too. Regards Nick -- Nick Medford From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Feb 15 18:27:39 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:27:39 -0500 Subject: BOC: "recognizing genius" Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:52:55 +0000, Nick Medford wrote: >In message <200102152115.QAA08007 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson > writes >>Reads like a typical "keynote speaker" bio, which is what it is. > >Maybe, I just thought there were some pretty arbitrary claims ('the first >punk record', 'the first Goth record') being touted as objective facts. In that context ("keynote speaker" or "board member"-type bios), you'll frequently see instances of exactly that. For instance, crediting Bob Moog with "inventing" the synthesizer (he was certainly instrumental in getting them mass-produced and profitably sold, and unquestionably did ground- breaking work, but Don Buchla and several others were equally or more involved in the actual "invention"). >>>A few points: 'heavy metal' is a long established term in chemistry, it >>>was used by William Burroughs as far back as the 50s (a 'heavy metal kid' >>>was a typically Burroughsian twisted sci-fi creature, being someone with a >>>dependency on said substances), and appears in Steppenwolf's 'Born To Be >>>Wild' ('heavy metal thunder'). >> >>... none of which refer to a style of music ... > >True, but that's the distinction I was making- between coining a term, and >applying it in a new way. I mean, I don't know who first used the word >'bubblegum' to denote a genre of music, but whoever it was I doubt they'd >claim to have invented the word itself. Gotcha. No argument there! >I know, I'm being pedantic, but bubbles (gum or otherwise) are there to be >burst. Pop away! At least it's a lot easier to say who "invented" bubblegum music (Kastenatz & Katz, of course, who created the Lemon Pipers, 1910 Fruitgum Company, Archies, etc. etc.) than who "invented" heavy metal music (got me!). >>>Also: the Dictators- the 'first punk record'? Ever heard of the MC5? >> >>The Wailers (Seattle, not Kingston) were making records in the 50's. >>And 'Here Are The Sonics' was at least 5 years before "Looking At You". > >Yeah, I didn't really mean the MC5 were the first, I was just pointing up >the arbitrariness of saying this or that was the first punk record. They were definitely one of the first. And still one of the best. >Although the news that there was something that could be called punk in >the 50s surprises me! So who or what were the Wailers? The first punk band, of course ;^)! From Tacoma (about an hour from Seattle IIRC), actually. See: http://thefabulouswailers.com/biowailers1.html They ripped! 'The Fabulous Wailers' and their next couple albums are highly recommended ... I guess they could be considered more "garage" than "punk", but I always considered "garage" just to be the term for 60s punk. If you're familiar with folks like Billy Childish (Thee Headcoats etc.), you've probably heard a cover of one (or more) of their songs somewhere down the line. >>But hey, much better to say the Dictators made the first punk record than >>to say that the Sex Pistols (or, more accurately, the Damned - them again! > >Their 'New Rose' single is often cited as the first UK punk record- again, >completely arbitrary. I don't know of any *70's* UK punk record that preceded it. But in the 60's, there were the likes of the Pretty Things and Johns Children (and the Deviants) to contend with ... >Yeah, Maclaren would be a tough guy to beat in a battle of the egos. I can't even think of who would be a worthy challenger (despite the "bio", SP doesn't come close!). >I once saw him in my local supermarket when I lived in Ladbroke Grove. >He was buying a tin of Campbell's soup (and nothing else). I wondered if >this was an impromptu piece of Situationist performance art (knowing >Warhol reference etc.) although if it was, I suspect it was lost on the >checkout girl. Actually it was lost on me too. How recently? Maybe he was gonna auction it on eBay ("A McClaren Original!"). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From swann at CUGC.ORG Thu Feb 15 19:10:09 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:10:09 -0500 Subject: Off: Re: A Question on Bootlegs In-Reply-To: ; from Paul Mather on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 08:50:15PM -0500 Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 08:50:15PM -0500, Paul Mather wrote: > > Why stop at 2-for-1? Why not 5-for-1? Why not a "small fee," to cover > "inconvenience?" Why not have the extra blanks sent with a store > receipt with a thank you written on the back so you can return them for > cash if you want? Most newbies are willing to pay for shows, bid > ridiculous amounts on eBay, or do 2-for-1 (or more) because they are > desperate to get the show and often have no other recourse. > Bootlegging is about supply and demand, not sharing the music. It's funny you should mention that. Years ago when I was attempting to break into the Tragically Hip trape trading ring, I couldn't find anyone who would dupe the stuff I wanted. I didn't have anything of interest to trade, and their "code of ethics" wouldn't allow them to sell me the stuff outright. I ended up buying a CD-R from a known "profiteer", and got roundly criticized on all sides for "supporting that kind of behavior". It sort of soured me on the whole thing. :-} Steve From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Thu Feb 15 19:19:14 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:19:14 -0600 Subject: Off: Re: A Question on Bootlegs Message-ID: they are > > desperate to get the show and often have no other recourse. > > Bootlegging is about supply and demand, not sharing the music. > > It's funny you should mention that. Years ago when I was attempting > to break into the Tragically Hip trape trading ring, I couldn't find > anyone who would dupe the stuff I wanted. I didn't have anything of > interest to trade, and their "code of ethics" wouldn't allow them to > sell me the stuff outright. I ended up buying a CD-R from a known > "profiteer", and got roundly criticized on all sides for "supporting > that kind of behavior". > > It sort of soured me on the whole thing. :-} > evil doer. From swann at CUGC.ORG Thu Feb 15 19:42:12 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:42:12 -0500 Subject: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line In-Reply-To: <003901c0939d$53b519e0$161828d5@starfield>; from Captain Bl@ck on Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 08:09:04PM -0000 Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 10, 2001 at 08:09:04PM -0000, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > Some counterfeits of rare items are in existence. I remember some years ago > a friend turned up at my house with a mint copy of Sam Gopal's Escalator. > What was interesting about that one was although the surface of the disc was > pristine, there appeared to be scratches in the recording. > > I gather the Sonic Attack single was subject to the same process. I am more than half convinced that my vinyl copy of _Spine of God_ (which I paid a mint for) is a counterfeit. The front cover of the sleeve slightly out of focus, like it was taken from a photograph of the real album cover... Steve From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Feb 15 19:43:39 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:43:39 EST Subject: OFF:VDGG Box Message-ID: Doug, actually, yes. most extensive, that's why I included it as my entry for VDGG on my ultimate bandlist site. great family tree bob In a message dated 2/14/01 3:41:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > > Any VDGG fans here seen this website? > > http://www.fuzzlogic.com/vdgg/ > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Feb 15 19:46:05 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:46:05 EST Subject: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line Message-ID: In a message dated 2/15/01 4:42:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, swann at CUGC.ORG writes: > I am more than half convinced that my vinyl copy of _Spine of God_ > (which I paid a mint for) is a counterfeit. The front cover of the > sleeve slightly out of focus, like it was taken from a photograph of > the real album cover... > > Steve Steve, I think that's how the official release looked like. Unless every copy I've seen since it came out were all pirates. Didn't one of the cd re-issues look like that also? bob Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From chip at PCC.COM Thu Feb 15 20:04:42 2001 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:04:42 -0500 Subject: The term "Heavy Metal" In-Reply-To: <200102152115.QAA08007@listserv.spc.edu> from "Douglas Pearson" at Feb 15, 2001 04:15:15 PM Message-ID: > >A few points: 'heavy metal' is a long established term in chemistry, it > >was used by William Burroughs as far back as the 50s (a 'heavy metal kid' > >was a typically Burroughsian twisted sci-fi creature, being someone with a > >dependency on said substances), and appears in Steppenwolf's 'Born To Be > >Wild' ('heavy metal thunder'). ...fwiw, I once read a P.G. Wodehouse novel with the term "heavy metal" (to describe a "tough guy"), dating the term to the late 30s! Just an aside :-) -- Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com Physician's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip 1 Main Street * Work:800-722-7708 Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: 802-846-8178 From swann at CUGC.ORG Thu Feb 15 20:27:20 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:27:20 -0500 Subject: OFF: A Question on Bootlegs vs trading - the bottom line In-Reply-To: <72.7deb7d5.27bdd24d@aol.com>; from Bob Lennon on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 07:46:05PM -0500 Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 07:46:05PM -0500, Bob Lennon wrote: > In a message dated 2/15/01 4:42:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, swann at CUGC.ORG > writes: > > I am more than half convinced that my vinyl copy of _Spine of God_ > > (which I paid a mint for) is a counterfeit. The front cover of the > > sleeve slightly out of focus, like it was taken from a photograph of > > the real album cover... > Steve, > I think that's how the official release looked like. Unless every copy I've > seen since it came out were all pirates. Didn't one of the cd re-issues look > like that also? > bob Really? It's on the german "Glitterhouse" label. Sort of a funny name for a label putting out grunge/stoner metal stuff like _Spine of God_. :) Anyway, thanks for the info! That's kind of a relief, since being sort of a hardcore MM fan at the time, I shelled out big bucks for it. And although I don't give a damn for the "resale" value of it, I more than a little put out about getting (apparently) scammed. Can't speak for the CD reissues - mine looks sort of crappy, but it's so reduced that it looks more in-focus than the LP cover. Did anyone ever remaster that album so it doesn't sound so tinny? One of my all-time favorite records, but it sounds like it was recorded with the microphone inside a garbage bin. :) Steve From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 15 20:50:16 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:20:16 +1030 Subject: HW: Dreams bed centre Message-ID: I wanna get me that cd and the bed - allwrighty Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:45 AM Subject: Re: HW: Dreams bed centre > Stuckey, Robert writes: > > > Me and my girlfriend have just moved to a house in the west country, > > we had to get a new bed and one place we looked in was Dreams bed > > centre in Chippenham. > > I couldn't belive that they have a range of beds called Hawkwind!!!? > > That'll be related to the rare "Nocturnal" CD compilation > which had the tracklist: > > > Nocturne > Down Through The Night > In the Mood > 3 Or 4 Erections In the Course of a Night > Space Sex > Pipe Dreams > Dreaming City > Dream Worker > Wastelands of Sleep > Machine Dream > The Iron Dream > Sleep of 1000 Tears > Dream Dancers > You Know You're Only Dreaming > Ship of Dreams > Empty Dreams > Sword of Dawn > The Awakening > Mask of Morning From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 15 20:51:56 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:21:56 +1030 Subject: HW: Meet up before Croydon gig? Message-ID: I'll be thinking of ya's ya lucky so & so & so & etc etc etc Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Jermy To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:58 AM Subject: HW: Meet up before Croydon gig? > Hi folks, > anyone want to meet up before the Croydon gig on the 25th? multimap.com > lists two pubs nearby, The George and Yates Wine Lodge (dress code: white > stilletos compulsory), both a couple of streets away. Anyone know the area? > > Cheers, > Mark From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Feb 15 21:21:33 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:21:33 -0500 Subject: Off: Re: A Question on Bootlegs In-Reply-To: <20010215191009.18105@cugc.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Stephen Swann wrote: => It's funny you should mention that. Years ago when I was attempting => to break into the Tragically Hip trape trading ring, I couldn't find => anyone who would dupe the stuff I wanted. I didn't have anything of => interest to trade, and their "code of ethics" wouldn't allow them to => sell me the stuff outright. I ended up buying a CD-R from a known => "profiteer", and got roundly criticized on all sides for "supporting => that kind of behavior". It's odd that their "code of ethics" didn't extend to B&Ping shows for people. Even years ago, when CD recorders were relatively scarce and cassette and DAT trading was the norm, I got my Gov't Mule CD collection started with kind folks doing B&Ps for me, and my signing onto trees as a leaf. Those 'hip folks don't sound so hip to me. :-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Feb 15 21:37:01 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 02:37:01 +0000 Subject: OFFish : Please help make the Cambridge show a reality!! In-Reply-To: <200102131227.HAA24988@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Zeitgeist sent what Mike Burro wrote: > I am writing this note with regard to the proposed one day/night > festival type event being planned for Cambridge in March. > > Here's the current situation as it stands ( to my knowledge) > > The event would take place in March, probably March 15th ( I hope, or I > probably won't be able to play). > > The venue which the Cambridge Rock Society, seems to have secured is, > "The Boat Race"; > http://www.boat-race.co.uk/index.html It will certainly be there when and if it happens. However... > Now the lineup of bands is still somewhat unclear, but this is how it is > begininng to appear: > > Bedouin (Alan Davey of Hawkwind). Although Alan has been called a number > of times by the organizer, they have not been able to get in touch with > him, and or he has not responed to messages or something because he has > not confirmed or denied the date(s) March 2nd is also under > consideration, but not for me, as I'm teching Philosophy at the local > college, and can't get away until the "spring break". We waited for two weeks for Alan to call because we do need a band that will draw a crowd and were hoping Bedouin were it. As a result of this waiting and an over-long chain of communication we lost the March slot. We're now trying to regroup for something in April, but don't yet know whether Bedouin are interested. I'm trying other possibilities too. Part of the problem (apart from Alan not picking up the bloody phone) is that we want something in term-time to maximise the crowd; Mike of course doesn't, because then he'll not be able to make it. Hopefully we can find a good gap. > Woronzow ( Adrian Shaw, The Bevis Frond etc) > I don't know much about the status of Adrian's partipation in this show. > Your guess is as good as mine. I hoped I'd sorted this one out, but: Woronzow is a label, _not_ a band. Adrian Shaw is part of the label but _won't_ be playing, and probably not present though he did ask what the beer was at the venue (Flower's, FWIW). We are trying to get one of the bands on Woronzow, The Alchemysts, to play as they kick arse. Not sure what the new situation is there though. > Sloterdijk: UK debut show. I plan to perfrom a very rocking set, > utilizing the harder spacerock tunes from the "Integration" cd, plus > several new tunes ( many also quite guitar oriented) from the > forthcoming cd "Uranium Zone". I would like to see this and this is one of the reasons why I'm trying to hedge dates so it can be done, but I can only work with the dates I'm offered. > "Judge" Trev Thoms ( Inner City Unit) > I contacted Trev about getting involved in this event, and he was very > interested. That was just a few days ago, and we have not conferred over > it again. It is my hope that he will become involved. I don't know how > he will approach it, but he will definately be invited to guest with > Sloterdijk. I've let Trev know what's going on; he was talking about doing an acoustic set or jamming with another band, which would be nice but I think given the size of the venue and what sort of time they're prepared to give us I doubt we can get Trev on as a separate appearance, and thus maybe not at all. On the other hand if Bedouin can't make it but ICU can, well :-) > Dr. Hasbeen: To my knowledge confirmed Mark has been kind enough to say they'll come, yes, but with the new timeframe I don't yet know if this is still true. > The Alchemysts: To my knowledge confirmed; big favorites in Cambridge. Well, Carl and I like them :-) I don't know that anyone else has heard of them. But yes, they're in subject to availability on the new date. > At the bottom of this page is a link to the Cambridge Rock Society. They > have a bulletin board for members only, however you can request to have > a non member posting considered via the administrator. Drop the rock > society a note and let them know that this show is worth scheduling. > Another way to reach them is: rocksoc-committee at chiark.greenend.org.uk Right, can I say, please DON'T do this. The guy I'm working with on the Committee is doing everything he can for this event (among a number of others). Mails of support from people who would come are useful information but I'm not sure that the reaction to large numbers of unsolicited mail urging us to do something that isn't in our hands will help the attitude of the committee. > If you would like to write to the person who is trying very hard to make > the event go, then drop a note of support to: > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > Jon has to work around a tremendous amount of red tape, and was "The > Person" who first took a stab at making this thing happen. Also appreciated, but it won't make me work any harder ;-) > Also, if you'd like you can drop a line to "The Boat Race" telling them > that you would like to see this event happen and ask that a confirmed > date be released as soon as possible, so that people can begin to get > the word out. Well, we could have had March 15th if we'd had a lead band, but we didn't. Mailing them can't do any harm at least, but they haven't so far been a problem. Wait till the money comes in for that I imagine :-( Anyway, that's how it is at the moment. Hopefully I can find out from Alan very soon what the state of play is and from the Boat Race what other dates they can offer us. Thanks for the interest (if you had any), yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Feb 15 21:40:32 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:40:32 EST Subject: Off: Re: A Question on Bootlegs un-hip traders Message-ID: In a message dated 2/15/01 6:25:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: > => It's funny you should mention that. Years ago when I was attempting > => to break into the Tragically Hip trape trading ring, I couldn't find > => anyone who would dupe the stuff I wanted. I didn't have anything of > => interest to trade, and their "code of ethics" wouldn't allow them to > => sell me the stuff outright. I ended up buying a CD-R from a known > => "profiteer", and got roundly criticized on all sides for "supporting > => that kind of behavior". > It's odd that their "code of ethics" didn't extend to B&Ping shows for > people. Even years ago, when CD recorders were relatively scarce and > cassette and DAT trading was the norm, I got my Gov't Mule CD collection > started with kind folks doing B&Ps for me, and my signing onto trees as > a leaf. Those 'hip folks don't sound so hip to me. :-) > > Cheers, > > Paul. I agree, I found it easy as sin to break into trading, and this is many years before using the www, and since then have offered just about anyone with nothing to trade to send me blanks and return postage. I don't know where all these blue meenies are from... bob From swann at CUGC.ORG Thu Feb 15 22:18:40 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:18:40 -0500 Subject: Off: Re: A Question on Bootlegs un-hip traders In-Reply-To: <50.117153de.27bded20@aol.com>; from Bob Lennon on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 09:40:32PM -0500 Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 09:40:32PM -0500, Bob Lennon wrote: > In a message dated 2/15/01 6:25:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, > paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: > > => anyone who would dupe the stuff I wanted. I didn't have anything of > > => interest to trade, and their "code of ethics" wouldn't allow them to > > => sell me the stuff outright. I ended up buying a CD-R from a known > > => "profiteer", and got roundly criticized on all sides for "supporting > > => that kind of behavior". > > > It's odd that their "code of ethics" didn't extend to B&Ping shows for > > people. Even years ago, when CD recorders were relatively scarce and > > cassette and DAT trading was the norm, I got my Gov't Mule CD collection > > started with kind folks doing B&Ps for me, and my signing onto trees as > > a leaf. Those 'hip folks don't sound so hip to me. :-) > > I agree, I found it easy as sin to break into trading, and this is many years > before using the www, and since then have offered just about anyone with > nothing to trade to send me blanks and return postage. I don't know where all > these blue meenies are from... The Tragically Hip usenet newsgroup circa 6 or 7 years ago. I was polite with my inquiries, as well - I *knew* I was asking for a favor, so it's not like they dissed me because I was too demanding or anything. It just seemed like nobody could be bothered duping for the moral satisfaction of helping a newbie, but they *also* couldn't be bothered doing it for blanks (I offered one guy a 10-for-1 trade, and he declined), or for cash (he seemed offended at the suggestion). It was weird. Not *everybody* were such hard cases, of course. I eventually found a couple of traders who would dupe me the "basic set" of live Hip material: the double suicide Highway Girl, the "killer whale tank and nautical disaster mixes of New Orleans is Sinking, etc. But of course, even having that doesn't enable you to "get into the club", because that's the basic material, and everybody already has that... :-} Steve From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Feb 16 00:38:06 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:08:06 +1030 Subject: regarding covers (hawkwind) Message-ID: Everyone check out the covers @ the mountain grill - theres some cool stuff there power to us - people Mb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And that would be a double cd Very good Mike Bill > That'll be related to the rare "Nocturnal" CD compilation > which had the tracklist: > > > Nocturne > Down Through The Night > In the Mood > 3 Or 4 Erections In the Course of a Night > Space Sex > Pipe Dreams > Dreaming City > Dream Worker > Wastelands of Sleep > Machine Dream > The Iron Dream > Sleep of 1000 Tears > Dream Dancers > You Know You're Only Dreaming > Ship of Dreams > Empty Dreams > Sword of Dawn > The Awakening > Mask of Morning > From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Feb 16 05:10:34 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 05:10:34 -0500 Subject: HW: Meet up before Croydon gig? Message-ID: I'll be there (and dragging along someone who hasn't seen HW since the Chronicle Tour). Been in both, Yates is shite, George is OK ( a Wetherspoons pub, much like the Beehive). I'd go for the George. It's only 5 minutes to the Fairfield Halls). Stuart http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk From: Mark Jermy To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:58 AM Subject: HW: Meet up before Croydon gig? > Hi folks, > anyone want to meet up before the Croydon gig on the 25th? multimap.com > lists two pubs nearby, The George and Yates Wine Lodge (dress code: white > stilletos compulsory), both a couple of streets away. Anyone know the area? > > Cheers, > Mark From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Feb 16 05:16:33 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:16:33 -0000 Subject: HW: Meet up before Croydon gig? Message-ID: > I'll be there (and dragging along someone who hasn't seen HW since the > Chronicle Tour). > > Been in both, Yates is shite, George is OK ( a Wetherspoons pub, much like > the Beehive). I'd go for the George. It's only 5 minutes to the Fairfield > Halls). > And the George is HUGE. Cheers, R. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Fri Feb 16 06:51:58 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:51:58 -0000 Subject: off: Nearly on topic ? Cambridge Gig Message-ID: Well then, [some judicious snipping of the original message has occurred below] FWIW, We (Dr Hasbeen) are happy to change the date at this point, our only concern is that we get enough notice to 'get it together' re transport and such. Personally, March and April are complete PITA months for me due to me having to prepare Council Tax bills for about half of the bloody UK ! so a weekend (Fri/Sat) is my best time. April shouldn't be a problem but we are booked to play on the 28th (Sat)in Derby at The White House (hint hint) but we could do most other dates no problem. I must say I like the sound of the lineup at least and the idea of meeting some more of the guys/gals of this group appeals so I hope it all comes together. We had said that we were going to take a few months off owing to extreme personal pressures some of the members are experiencing but obviously if there is the chance to further the cause of our music we'll get stuck in. Mark (Hasbeen). Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 02:37:01 +0000 From: Jon Jarrett Subject: Re: OFFish : Please help make the Cambridge show a reality!! On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Zeitgeist sent what Mike Burro wrote: > I am writing this note with regard to the proposed one day/night > festival type event being planned for Cambridge in March. > > Here's the current situation as it stands ( to my knowledge) > > The event would take place in March, probably March 15th ( I hope, or I > probably won't be able to play). > > The venue which the Cambridge Rock Society, seems to have secured is, > "The Boat Race"; > http://www.boat-race.co.uk/index.html It will certainly be there when and if it happens. However... > Bedouin (Alan Davey of Hawkwind). Although Alan has been called a number > of times by the organizer, they have not been able to get in touch with > him, and or he has not responed to messages or something because he has > not confirmed or denied the date(s) March 2nd is also under > consideration, but not for me, as I'm teching Philosophy at the local > college, and can't get away until the "spring break". We waited for two weeks for Alan to call because we do need a band that will draw a crowd and were hoping Bedouin were it. As a result of this waiting and an over-long chain of communication we lost the March slot. We're now trying to regroup for something in April, but don't yet know whether Bedouin are interested. I'm trying other possibilities too. > Woronzow ( Adrian Shaw, The Bevis Frond etc) > I don't know much about the status of Adrian's partipation in this show. > Your guess is as good as mine. I hoped I'd sorted this one out, but: Woronzow is a label, _not_ a band. Adrian Shaw is part of the label but _won't_ be playing, and probably not present though he did ask what the beer was at the venue (Flower's, FWIW). We are trying to get one of the bands on Woronzow, The Alchemysts, to play as they kick arse. Not sure what the new situation is there though. > Sloterdijk: UK debut show. I plan to perfrom a very rocking set, > utilizing the harder spacerock tunes from the "Integration" cd, plus > several new tunes ( many also quite guitar oriented) from the > forthcoming cd "Uranium Zone". I would like to see this and this is one of the reasons why I'm trying to hedge dates so it can be done, but I can only work with the dates I'm offered. > "Judge" Trev Thoms ( Inner City Unit) > I contacted Trev about getting involved in this event, and he was very > interested. That was just a few days ago, and we have not conferred over > it again. It is my hope that he will become involved. I don't know how > he will approach it, but he will definately be invited to guest with > Sloterdijk. I've let Trev know what's going on; he was talking about doing an acoustic set or jamming with another band, which would be nice but I think given the size of the venue and what sort of time they're prepared to give us I doubt we can get Trev on as a separate appearance, and thus maybe not at all. On the other hand if Bedouin can't make it but ICU can, well :-) > Dr. Hasbeen: To my knowledge confirmed Mark has been kind enough to say they'll come, yes, but with the new timeframe I don't yet know if this is still true. > The Alchemysts: To my knowledge confirmed; big favorites in Cambridge. Well, Carl and I like them :-) I don't know that anyone else has heard of them. But yes, they're in subject to availability on the new date. From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Feb 16 07:24:33 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:24:33 -0500 Subject: BOC: "recognizing genius" Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:27:39 -0500, Douglas Pearson wrote: > >http://thefabulouswailers.com/biowailers1.html Interesting link. See what you mean about punk, ol' Rockin' Robin Roberts looks pretty f**kin' hardcore!! :-) >>I once saw him in my local supermarket when I lived in Ladbroke Grove. >>He was buying a tin of Campbell's soup (and nothing else). I wondered if >>this was an impromptu piece of Situationist performance art (knowing >>Warhol reference etc.) although if it was, I suspect it was lost on the >>checkout girl. Actually it was lost on me too. > >How recently? Maybe he was gonna auction it on eBay ("A McClaren >Original!"). LOL! Wouldn't put it past him. Although this was about 10 years ago, but maybe he's just awaiting the moment... From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Fri Feb 16 09:33:21 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:33:21 GMT Subject: BOC/BRAIN: im an unofficial homepage guy Message-ID: If you clicks yer browsers to rockcritics.com (a good site with loads o rock cirtic type itnerviews an' such,You'll fin: ***Kerouac never drove so he never drove alone. (This isn't an official Richard Meltzer site, but it IS a treasure trove of Meltzer articles, all linked from one place. Dandy.) [02/14/01] O' course, that website B mine to look at that darling piece o hoohah o mine: http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/ungodlyvision/rants/article7.htm I also put a link to Rhino Rec's. for the Stalk Forrest Group thing there, since he always seemed to dig What is Quicksand? o'er a chunk of BOCS output in time. Yay. Visit and make my counter count like a crazed coutning thing. Jason --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Feb 16 10:32:39 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:32:39 +0000 Subject: VDGG Message-ID: Can someone please tell me what VDGG stands for? Layla. From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Feb 16 10:44:20 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:44:20 -0000 Subject: VDGG Message-ID: Very Dull Grinding Guitars. (DUCK!!!) :-) Cheers, Rich. ObToon. King Kurt - Destination Zululand. > Can someone please tell me what VDGG stands for? > > Layla. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Fri Feb 16 10:45:40 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:45:40 -0000 Subject: VDGG Message-ID: van der graff generator Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: 16 February 2001 15:33 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: VDGG Can someone please tell me what VDGG stands for? Layla. *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Fri Feb 16 10:46:49 2001 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:46:49 +0000 Subject: BOC: "recognizing genius" In-Reply-To: <200102152115.QAA08007@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > I have no idea who first used the term to apply to music ... Hapdash and > the Colored Coat perhaps? But it's probably safe to say that all > subsequent usage of the term was inspired by/borrowed from Burroughs (and > it would probably be a not-too-risky bet to make that even if Pearlman was > one of the first to apply the term to music, that he got the idea from > Meltzer). IIRC, the first Hapshash record came out in 67 or maybe 68 and was credited to "Hapshash and the Coloured Coat featuring the Human Host and the Heavy Metal Kids". I don't think there was any claim that the _music_ was heavy metal - the title just namechecked William Burroughs. I remember bands like Spooky Tooth at that time being described as heavy, but not heavy metal. I almost believe that Pearlman was the first to use the term to describe a musical style, but I think there were probably others before him. As for the BOC claim to have written "about half of their catalog" - my recollection is that the Pearlman writing credits fall off after the first couple of albums. And they are all co-credits (presumably as lyricist) - I don't think he has ever written a complete song. - Mike Godwin From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Feb 16 10:58:05 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:58:05 -0600 Subject: VDGG Message-ID: VDGG? Virtual DemiGod Gents IMHO. Hey! Remember that comp with Hawkwind/Van Der Graaf Generator/Amon D??l? Does anyone have this? Seems like it could be worth a listen. Karen -------------------------------------------------------------- Hawkwind/Van Der Graaf Generator/Amon D??l: Anthology Of Cosmic Music -------------------------------------------------------------- Track Listing: 01. Space Is Deep 02. Orgone Accumulator 03. Upside Down 04. Sonic Attack 05. Time We Left This World T 06. Ten Seconds Of Forever 07. Brainstorm 08. Saigon Roulette 09. Gentlemen Prefer Blues 10. Main Slide 11. Tropic Of Conversation 12. Spooks 13. Epilogue 14. Liquidator 15. Rift Valley 16. Tarzan 17. Coil Night 18. Time Vaults 19. It All Went Up 20. Faint & Forsaken 21. Big Wheel 22. Urban Indian 23. Adrenaline Rush 24. Visions Of Fire 25. Drawn To The Flame Pt.1 26. They Call It Home 27. Die Losung 28. Drawn To The Flame Pt.2 -------------------------------------------------------------- Layla Thompson wrote: > > Can someone please tell me what VDGG stands for? > > Layla. -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Feb 16 11:03:16 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:03:16 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: Hello folks! We urgently need: 1) The outside of the Brixton Academy on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over the entrance") 2) A scan of the Brixton ticket 3) Any adverts for the Brixton gig. Thanks D&K -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tgn at GATE.NET Fri Feb 16 11:05:34 2001 From: tgn at GATE.NET (Tim Northrup) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:05:34 -0500 Subject: BOC: References in Richie Scarlet news ... Message-ID: Some BOC info in this post regarding Richie Scarlet, found on the Alice Cooper Group mailing list. -- Tim > I talked to Richie Scarlet last night. He's still waiting to put the final > touches on his CD, but Blue Oyster Cult is in the studio now so he has to > wait until they are done. Shouldn't be much longer.. He moved recently too, > after 16 years in Danbury, he's officially a Wise Guy from New York again. > He's on tour with Leslie West again shortly, and I'll be seeing him on March > 9 at Jaxx. Also, here's some more information you might want to send around > cause I'm sure there's a lot of fans on the lists that want to know about > these gigs and go see him. > > Jeff > > PS- We've been doing a lot of behind the scenes work for promotion both in > the US and Europe when the new CD comes out. It would be great if everyone > knew to call radio stations asking for songs and record stores to stock it. > This one will have Neal and Dennis on it too as well as Ace Frehley, > Sebastian Bach, Buck Dharma and more, so if we can give it a boost, it might > be the one to make a dent for a guy that really deserves all success. From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Feb 16 11:10:09 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:10:09 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: > 1) The outside of the Brixton Academy on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over the entrance") What - the whole outside? I know a mate with a JCB who might be tempted for a fee... :-) And sadly, I hoyed my ticket out a couple of weeks ago when I got a new wallet... :-( Cheers, R. ObToon: HMHB - Lock up your Mountain Bikes _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Feb 16 11:18:07 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:18:07 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: Ha...ha.ha......No just the entrance with the word "HAWKWIND" over the door! :-} ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Lockwood To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:10 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawk help > > 1) The outside of the Brixton Academy on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over the > entrance") > > What - the whole outside? I know a mate with a JCB who might be tempted for > a fee... > > :-) > > And sadly, I hoyed my ticket out a couple of weeks ago when I got a new > wallet... :-( > > Cheers, > > R. > > ObToon: HMHB - Lock up your Mountain Bikes > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Feb 16 11:19:27 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:19:27 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawk help In-Reply-To: <001601c09831$fc319060$d29393c3@default> Message-ID: > Hello folks! We urgently need: 1) The outside of the Brixton >Academy on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over the entrance") 2) A scan of the >Brixton ticket 3) Any adverts for the Brixton gig. Thanks D&K TADA!!! I have a full unused BRIXTON TICKET if you don't get 1000 other offers your-side in next 5 minutes.... Frycase From andy.ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK Fri Feb 16 11:25:01 2001 From: andy.ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK (Andy Ball) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:25:01 +0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help In-Reply-To: <001601c09831$fc319060$d29393c3@default> Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 947 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Fri Feb 16 11:02:52 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:02:52 -0000 Subject: VDGG Message-ID: personally I've never heard anything by them can anyone tell me what they sound like? Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: Karen Kusic [mailto:kkusic at EXECPC.COM] Sent: 16 February 2001 15:58 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: VDGG VDGG? Virtual DemiGod Gents IMHO. Hey! Remember that comp with Hawkwind/Van Der Graaf Generator/Amon D??l? Does anyone have this? Seems like it could be worth a listen. Karen -------------------------------------------------------------- Hawkwind/Van Der Graaf Generator/Amon D??l: Anthology Of Cosmic Music -------------------------------------------------------------- Track Listing: 01. Space Is Deep 02. Orgone Accumulator 03. Upside Down 04. Sonic Attack 05. Time We Left This World T 06. Ten Seconds Of Forever 07. Brainstorm 08. Saigon Roulette 09. Gentlemen Prefer Blues 10. Main Slide 11. Tropic Of Conversation 12. Spooks 13. Epilogue 14. Liquidator 15. Rift Valley 16. Tarzan 17. Coil Night 18. Time Vaults 19. It All Went Up 20. Faint & Forsaken 21. Big Wheel 22. Urban Indian 23. Adrenaline Rush 24. Visions Of Fire 25. Drawn To The Flame Pt.1 26. They Call It Home 27. Die Losung 28. Drawn To The Flame Pt.2 -------------------------------------------------------------- Layla Thompson wrote: > > Can someone please tell me what VDGG stands for? > > Layla. -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bart at ENGAGE.NU Fri Feb 16 11:27:47 2001 From: bart at ENGAGE.NU (Bart Brugmans) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:27:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawk help In-Reply-To: <001601c09831$fc319060$d29393c3@default> Message-ID: Hi, On 16 Feb 2001, at 16:03, XXX wrote: > We urgently need: > > 1) The outside of the Brixton Academy on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over > the entrance") I get the picture next week.... 2) A scan of the Brixton ticket can do that (mine wasn't thorn by the security !) 3) Any adverts for the Brixton gig. Nope, do not have that. --BArt | "Sometimes good guys don't wear white!" | | Visit the Climate IMC: http://www.climateconference.org | | ENGAGE! 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Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 750 bytes Desc: not available URL: From IainFerguson at CS.COM Fri Feb 16 11:37:57 2001 From: IainFerguson at CS.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:37:57 EST Subject: HW: Hawk help ( brixton exterior) Message-ID: Hawkwind, You have a scan of the Brixton exterior on your web site Its in the middle of your Video Stills Hope thats not being too obvious Best of luck iain From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Feb 16 11:48:25 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:48:25 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help ( brixton exterior) Message-ID: Ahh, but the one Andy just pointed us to is better!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:37 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawk help ( brixton exterior) > Hawkwind, > > You have a scan of the Brixton exterior on your web site Its in the middle of > your Video Stills > Hope thats not being too obvious > > Best of luck > iain > From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Fri Feb 16 11:47:34 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:47:34 GMT Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! Message-ID: sez the BOC Web Page (2/10/01): CBS/SONY is going to be re-releasing the entire BOC catalog, remastered with extra bonus unreleased tracks. The first of these releases are slated for early summer. I guess "it will be time" after all! Jason --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Feb 16 11:43:26 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:43:26 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: Hello! >We urgently need: > >1) The outside of the Brixton Academy on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over the >entrance") I took a photo but it was near dusk, so it's a little grainy and hard to read Hawkwind. >2) A scan of the Brixton ticket I have one, and I'll send it to you offlist if you give me an address to send it to. Contact: henderson.120 at osu.edu Keith H. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 16 10:53:13 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:53:13 EDT Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! In-Reply-To: <200102161647.f1GGlYI03196@shell.acmenet.net> Message-ID: On 16 Feb 2001, at 16:47, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > sez the BOC Web Page (2/10/01): > CBS/SONY is going to be re-releasing the entire BOC catalog, > remastered with extra bonus unreleased tracks. The first of these > releases are slated for early summer. > > I guess "it will be time" after all! > I wonder what the bonus tracks will be? And I hope they aren't the stuff that's on BD's archive CDs! theo From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Feb 16 11:59:15 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:59:15 -0500 Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! Message-ID: Well I guess I get full credit for the catalog being reissued cause... I JUST UPGRADED MY EARLY LP'S TO CD. SHIEST Mike ;-) Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > sez the BOC Web Page (2/10/01): > CBS/SONY is going to be re-releasing the entire BOC catalog, remastered with > extra bonus unreleased tracks. The first of these releases are slated for early > summer. > > I guess "it will be time" after all! > > Jason > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. > http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ > > -- "Out of the quarrel with others we make rhetoric; out of the quarrel with ourselves we make poetry. " --W. B. Yeats From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Feb 16 12:02:52 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:02:52 -0500 Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! In-Reply-To: <3A8D14A8.22896.5F9C36@localhost> Message-ID: Theo wrote: > I wonder what the bonus tracks will be? And I hope they aren't the > stuff that's on BD's archive CDs! Lonely Teardrops (TV Mix) I'm outta here, ;-) Brian From andy.ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK Fri Feb 16 12:02:24 2001 From: andy.ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK (Andy Ball) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:02:24 +0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help ( brixton exterior) In-Reply-To: <007101c09838$4a15b120$d29393c3@default> Message-ID: I would just like to say that the link I posted earlier is to a French guy's website, so copywright/acknowledgements may be in order. There are lots of other good pics on this site too! Worth checking out even if you can't speak\read French! Cheers, Andy At 16:48 16/02/01 -0000, you wrote: >Ahh, but the one Andy just pointed us to is better!!!!! > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:37 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Hawk help ( brixton exterior) > > >> Hawkwind, >> >> You have a scan of the Brixton exterior on your web site Its in the middle >of >> your Video Stills >> Hope thats not being too obvious >> >> Best of luck >> iain >> > From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Fri Feb 16 12:18:13 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:18:13 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: I've got a review from the Evening Standard if you haven't seen that. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: XXX To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:03 PM Subject: HW: Hawk help Hello folks! We urgently need: 1) The outside of the Brixton Academy on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over the entrance") 2) A scan of the Brixton ticket 3) Any adverts for the Brixton gig. Thanks D&K From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Feb 16 12:32:27 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:32:27 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: Ooh - I'd like to see that! :-) Could you mail me a copy at R.C.Lockwood at BTInternet.com please Kevin? Cheers, Rich. > I've got a review from the Evening Standard if you haven't seen that. > > > > Hello folks! > > We urgently need: > > 1) The outside of the Brixton Academy on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over the > entrance") > 2) A scan of the Brixton ticket > 3) Any adverts for the Brixton gig. > > Thanks > > D&K _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Fri Feb 16 12:41:51 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:41:51 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: I'll try scanning it in and posting on mountaingrill.co.uk - watch this space :-) --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Lockwood To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 5:32 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawk help > Ooh - I'd like to see that! :-) > > Could you mail me a copy at R.C.Lockwood at BTInternet.com please Kevin? > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > I've got a review from the Evening Standard if you haven't seen that. > > > > > > > > > > Hello folks! > > > > We urgently need: > > > > 1) The outside of the Brixton Academy on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over the > > entrance") > > 2) A scan of the Brixton ticket > > 3) Any adverts for the Brixton gig. > > > > Thanks > > > > D&K > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Feb 16 12:43:57 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:43:57 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: Cheers. BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington Crescent, Limerick Game, or Saucy Lady sticker collecting, please (please!) try my server at http://ponyegg.hn.org/rich.bpmcf.asp I need as many testers as I can get. Cheers, Rich. ObSundayMorningHangoverMusic: HMHB - Some Call It Godcore. > I'll try scanning it in and posting on mountaingrill.co.uk - watch this > space :-) > > --- > Kevin Perry > Sonic Energy Authority > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Lockwood > To: > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 5:32 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Hawk help > > > > Ooh - I'd like to see that! :-) > > > > Could you mail me a copy at R.C.Lockwood at BTInternet.com please Kevin? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > I've got a review from the Evening Standard if you haven't seen that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello folks! > > > > > > We urgently need: > > > > > > 1) The outside of the Brixton Academy on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over > the > > > entrance") > > > 2) A scan of the Brixton ticket > > > 3) Any adverts for the Brixton gig. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > D&K > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Feb 16 12:49:31 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:49:31 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: Hi Rich, Just popped along to the page. Result below:-) Cheers. BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington Crescent, Limerick Game, or Saucy Lady sticker collecting, please (please!) try my server at http://ponyegg.hn.org/rich.bpmcf.asp I need as many testers as I can get. Cheers, Rich. ObSundayMorningHangoverMusic: HMHB - Some Call It Godcore. The page cannot be found The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Please try the following: If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly. Open the ponyegg.hn.org home page, and then look for links to the information you want. Click the Back button to try another link. HTTP 404 - File not found Internet Information Services ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Technical Information (for support personnel) More information: Microsoft Support From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Feb 16 12:53:39 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:53:39 -0000 Subject: VDGG Message-ID: RE: VDGGDifficult to describe. Try downloading something off Napster - I'd recommend anything from 'Pawn Hearts' or 'H to He Who Am the Only One'. Depends on whether you can stand Hammill's vocals. Bit Peter Gabriel-ish with a much higher range, while the music is heavily driven by Organ, Drums and Sax. Actually I always thought early Marillion sounded more like VDGG than Genesis. Hugely influential band they were too. Captain Bl at ck ----- Original Message ----- From: Colm McWilliams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:02 PM Subject: Re: VDGG personally I've never heard anything by them can anyone tell me what they sound like? Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: Karen Kusic [mailto:kkusic at EXECPC.COM] Sent: 16 February 2001 15:58 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: VDGG VDGG? Virtual DemiGod Gents IMHO. Hey! Remember that comp with Hawkwind/Van Der Graaf Generator/Amon D??l? Does anyone have this? Seems like it could be worth a listen. Karen -------------------------------------------------------------- Hawkwind/Van Der Graaf Generator/Amon D??l: Anthology Of Cosmic Music -------------------------------------------------------------- Track Listing: 01. Space Is Deep 02. Orgone Accumulator 03. Upside Down 04. Sonic Attack 05. Time We Left This World T 06. Ten Seconds Of Forever 07. Brainstorm 08. Saigon Roulette 09. Gentlemen Prefer Blues 10. Main Slide 11. Tropic Of Conversation 12. Spooks 13. Epilogue 14. Liquidator 15. Rift Valley 16. Tarzan 17. Coil Night 18. Time Vaults 19. It All Went Up 20. Faint & Forsaken 21. Big Wheel 22. Urban Indian 23. Adrenaline Rush 24. Visions Of Fire 25. Drawn To The Flame Pt.1 26. They Call It Home 27. Die Losung 28. Drawn To The Flame Pt.2 -------------------------------------------------------------- Layla Thompson wrote: > > Can someone please tell me what VDGG stands for? > > Layla. -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. 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URL: From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Feb 16 12:57:41 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:57:41 -0500 Subject: Anthology of Cosmic Music Message-ID: Those with web access can point their URL to; http://listserv.spc.edu and do a search Was discussed last Octoberish when I managed to obtain a few copies for list folk. Concensus was good. Calvert & Amon Duul tracks esp. Stuart http://www.the-rocker.co.uk From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 16 12:12:19 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:12:19 EDT Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! In-Reply-To: <3A8D5C63.70003@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: On 16 Feb 2001, at 11:59, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > Well I guess I get full credit for the catalog being reissued cause... > > I JUST UPGRADED MY EARLY LP'S TO CD. > > SHIEST > > Mike ;-) Hey, Mike, thanks from all of us! I figured that when I bought them all, it would be like 're-issue insurance!' theo From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Feb 16 13:20:22 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:20:22 -0000 Subject: VDGG Message-ID: Peter Hammill supporting Marillion in 81/82 was interesting. Many cries of "we're here to see you Peter" during his set (as indeed we were!). Last time I saw PH was about 10 years ago in King Tuts's Wah Wah Hut in Glasgow - and tonight (Mathew) that's where I'll be for the Porcupine Tree gig. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 16 February 2001 17:55 Subject: Re: VDGG Difficult to describe. Try downloading something off Napster - I'd recommend anything from 'Pawn Hearts' or 'H to He Who Am the Only One'. Depends on whether you can stand Hammill's vocals. Bit Peter Gabriel-ish with a much higher range, while the music is heavily driven by Organ, Drums and Sax. Actually I always thought early Marillion sounded more like VDGG than Genesis. Hugely influential band they were too. Captain Bl at ck ----- Original Message ----- From: Colm McWilliams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:02 PM Subject: Re: VDGG personally I've never heard anything by them can anyone tell me what they sound like? Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: Karen Kusic [mailto:kkusic at EXECPC.COM] Sent: 16 February 2001 15:58 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: VDGG VDGG? Virtual DemiGod Gents IMHO. Hey! Remember that comp with Hawkwind/Van Der Graaf Generator/Amon D??l? Does anyone have this? Seems like it could be worth a listen. Karen -------------------------------------------------------------- Hawkwind/Van Der Graaf Generator/Amon D??l: Anthology Of Cosmic Music -------------------------------------------------------------- Track Listing: 01. Space Is Deep 02. Orgone Accumulator 03. Upside Down 04. Sonic Attack 05. Time We Left This World T 06. Ten Seconds Of Forever 07. Brainstorm 08. Saigon Roulette 09. Gentlemen Prefer Blues 10. Main Slide 11. Tropic Of Conversation 12. Spooks 13. Epilogue 14. Liquidator 15. Rift Valley 16. Tarzan 17. Coil Night 18. Time Vaults 19. It All Went Up 20. Faint & Forsaken 21. Big Wheel 22. Urban Indian 23. Adrenaline Rush 24. Visions Of Fire 25. Drawn To The Flame Pt.1 26. They Call It Home 27. Die Losung 28. Drawn To The Flame Pt.2 -------------------------------------------------------------- Layla Thompson wrote: > > Can someone please tell me what VDGG stands for? > > Layla. -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wilfried at MUENSTER.DE Fri Feb 16 13:32:10 2001 From: wilfried at MUENSTER.DE (Wilfried Sch=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=FCsler?=) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:32:10 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: I have an A3 sized poster for the Hawkestra (thanks to a record shop in Camden Town). It's orange and says "tickets on sale here". From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Fri Feb 16 14:18:40 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:18:40 -0700 Subject: VDGG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: RE: VDGG -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: VDGG personally I've never heard anything by them . can anyone tell me what they sound like? Colm McWilliams Like Jackson Browne on a bad acid trip...and they're great! The other Mark L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK Fri Feb 16 11:10:07 2001 From: cmcwilliams at CIL.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:10:07 -0000 Subject: Hawk help Message-ID: I have an A3 poster advertising the gig. Its on orange paper with the graphics/text in black. Looks similar to the ticket. But it Has a fold down the middle though. Colm McWilliams Estimator CIL INTERNATIONAL Tel: Switchboard +44 [0]20 7272 0222 Tel: Direct Line +44 [0]20 7561 6455 Fax: +44 [0]20-7561 6406 -----Original Message----- From: XXX [mailto:boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK] Sent: 16 February 2001 16:03 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Hawk help Hello folks! We urgently need: 1) The outside of the Brixton Academy on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over the entrance") 2) A scan of the Brixton ticket 3) Any adverts for the Brixton gig. Thanks D&K *********************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact us immediately. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses using Trend ScanMail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 16 06:23:17 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:23:17 GMT Subject: HW: Meet up before Croydon gig? In-Reply-To: Richard Lockwood's message of Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:16:33 -0000 Message-ID: Richard Lockwood writes: > > I'll be there (and dragging along someone who hasn't seen HW since the > > Chronicle Tour). > > > > Been in both, Yates is shite, George is OK ( a Wetherspoons pub, much like > > the Beehive). I'd go for the George. It's only 5 minutes to the > Fairfield > > Halls). > And the George is HUGE. My vote goes for the George. Let's hope they do food this time though. Now, will the trains take 4 hours extra or maybe just 3 hours extra... FoFP From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Feb 16 16:31:00 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:31:00 -0500 Subject: HW: Tour Dates Confirmed Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS HW TOUR DATES NOW CONFIRMED... All crew please log in to Mission Control for updates..... more data to be released over the next few days... stay tuned....... www.hawkwind.org.uk MESSAGE ENDS++ From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Fri Feb 16 16:28:42 2001 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:28:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Even more vinyl!!!!! Message-ID: Hello Colin, I might be interested in your "Friends & Relations" disc if it's the white sleeve,not the grey one Also what Prx5 version is it (label + sleeve) Otherwise I can send you my lists.Maybe there's something I have you don't have. greetings filip hawknut ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Allen To: Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:19 PM Subject: HW: Even more vinyl!!!!! > Hi, > > Having looked in another cupboard I also have the following to trade for > live recordings/videos if anyone is interested: > > Hawkwind: > > PXR5 > Church of Hawkwind (including booklet) > 1st Album (picture disk) > Friends & Relations > Friends & Relations - Twice Upon a Time > Friends & Relations Volume 3 > > Robert Calvert: > > Test Tube Conceived > > All are in excellent condition (both sleeves and vinyl). > > Regards, > > COLIN From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Fri Feb 16 17:03:39 2001 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (blueskin69) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:03:39 +0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: Hi I can do you a scan of the Brixton ticket ( signed by Harvey & Alan ). I only have one advert but, i could do you a scan of this also. Unfortuley i cant get the scans done until the 27th feb. Let me know. Cheers. Gordon. XXX wrote: > Hello folks! We urgently need: 1) The outside of the Brixton Academy > on 21st Oct.(With "Hawkwind over the entrance")2) A scan of the > Brixton ticket3) Any adverts for the Brixton gig. Thanks D&K -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 16 18:58:12 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:58:12 +0000 Subject: HW: New plans or not In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > In message <3.0.6.32.20010213093638.018d1610 at flite.net>, Andrew Apold > writes > > >Even IITBOTFTBD, which I didn't care for initiually, has grown on me. > > Same here, in fact I think the first 3 tracks rank among their best work of > the last 20 years. There's some fairly uninspired stuff elsewhere on the > album, but I'd rather have a mix of great stuff and poor stuff than an album > like 'Distant Horizons', where everything is OK but nothing really stands > out. I see this last opinion a lot, and I always feel I'm getting something wrong because to me, though _Distant Horizons_ is a thrown together sort of thing, some of the stuff on it is to my mind pretty bloody good. I like `Phetamine Street' a lot, I like `Kauai' a lot better here than I do on _Spacebrock_ (but still I have to admit not a hell of a lot), and I think `Wheels' is absolute class. I mean, it's a one-riff song with a key change about two minutes in for no clear reason and some kicking bass synth work as well as blistering Brock-type guitar from both guitarists. If it were Monster Magnet we'd all acclaim it as genius! Okay, the speech in the middle is a bit cringeworthy, but such is life. This is one place where Rizz improved a song. But I still love it. And `Alchemy' and `Reptoid Vision' seem pretty good to me too. The remaining stuff is nothing special, I grant you, but I have no problem with any of it bar the `Love in Space' version and that's better than the single version that had the vocals on. I just think this album gets a poorer press than it deserves. There weren't that many good songs on _Alien4_ after all. Anyway, I'll stop now. Yours, Jon n/p Disarray - `22 Minutes' -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET Fri Feb 16 19:00:29 2001 From: mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET (Mark Robertson) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:00:29 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: Ahh it's here: http://ponyegg.hn.org/rich/bpmcf.asp a test of cunning and deceit no doubt. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zeitgeist" To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 5:49 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent > Hi Rich, > > Just popped along to the page. Result below:-) > > Cheers. > > BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington Crescent, > Limerick Game, or Saucy Lady sticker collecting, please (please!) try my > server at http://ponyegg.hn.org/rich.bpmcf.asp > > I need as many testers as I can get. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ObSundayMorningHangoverMusic: HMHB - Some Call It Godcore. > > The page cannot be found > The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, > or is temporarily unavailable. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > Please try the following: > > If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is > spelled correctly. > > Open the ponyegg.hn.org home page, and then look for links to the > information you want. > Click the Back button to try another link. > HTTP 404 - File not found > Internet Information Services > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > Technical Information (for support personnel) > > More information: > Microsoft Support From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 16 19:07:42 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:07:42 +0000 Subject: OFF: The Residents In-Reply-To: <200102132254.RAA28029@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > Snakefinger worked with the Residents and a ton of other people, but I > can't think of a direct connection to Allen/Gong. I could probably arrange > to ask Daevid next time he's in SF (but last time was only a couple months > ago, so who know when the next will be?). Well, I was in contact with The University of Errors about this Cambridge gig in November or so and they said then that once Daevid finished this recent Gong tour he was going home to Oz with Gilli and not leaving till July at least as he seemed to have spent the last year on tour and wanted a rest. He did seem pretty tired at the Cambridge gig. Didn't let it show really but you got the impression that if he relaxed the rush of air into the space where his personality had been would have caused a small sonic boom. If you see what I mean. Anyway, yeah, expect no immediate activity in the Allen camp. Yours, Jon n/p: Disarray - `My Intimate Friend' -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Feb 16 19:18:58 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:18:58 -0500 Subject: OFF: The Residents Message-ID: On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:07:42 +0000, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: >> Snakefinger worked with the Residents and a ton of other people, but I >> can't think of a direct connection to Allen/Gong. I could probably >> arrange to ask Daevid next time he's in SF (but last time was only a >> couple months ago, so who know when the next will be?). > > Well, I was in contact with The University of Errors Pat, Michael, or other? >... they said then that once Daevid >finished this recent Gong tour he was going home to Oz with Gilli and not >leaving till July at least as he seemed to have spent the last year on >tour and wanted a rest. He did seem pretty tired at the Cambridge >gig. Didn't let it show really but you got the impression that if he >relaxed the rush of air into the space where his personality had been >would have caused a small sonic boom. If you see what I mean. He seemed shockingly subdued when he played in SF with Mushroom in December (AFTER the Gong tour, so presumably on his way back to Oz). I think it's the *only* time I've ever seen him where he wasn't completely stealing the show! Perhaps that's why it was billed as Mushroom and not UofE (even though bassist Michael Clare, who usually *doesn't* play w/Mushroom was the bassist for that gig). >Anyway, yeah, expect no immediate activity in the Allen camp. I'm sure you're quite correct, but I'd be shocked if he didn't make another appearence in San Francisco within the year ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Feb 16 19:30:52 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:30:52 -0500 Subject: HW: New plans or not Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:58:12 +0000, Jon Jarrett wrote: >... I always feel I'm getting something wrong because to me, though >_Distant Horizons_ is a thrown together sort of thing, some of the >stuff on it is to my mind pretty bloody good... I must agree with Jon here. "Phetamine Street", "Wheels", "Reptoid Vision" & "Alchemy" are all extremely worthy Hawkwind numbers in my book. And "Kaui" is one of Dave's nicer ambient bits. Even the title track is pretty interesting (reminiscent of the more percussive stuff on IitBotFtbD). The main problem is that it wasn't properly mixed/mastered (and the ugly booklet), which is why it has the "thrown together" feel. >There weren't that many good songs on _Alien4_ after all. And once again, too many remakes ("Death Trap" - although Ron's performance makes its inclusion a non-waste, "Are You Losing Your Mind" = "Iron Dream", "Blue Skin" = "Eye That Looks Within" [from the Griffin box set] - I get the impression that perhaps Ron's "audition" for HW was to be given the original track and told to come up with lyrics/vocals for it). "Sputnik Stan" was good, but that's now a Bedouin song. That pretty much leaves only the title track, which IS a great one ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Feb 16 19:41:06 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:41:06 -0500 Subject: HW: Finest Moments Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:25:21 EST, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >Live "Space is Deep" from Space Ritual...just after the guitar-and-drums >jam has finished and before the Only Dreaming "whewwwwwwwww" part, Brock >is just picking away mellowly and suddenly there's an extra layer of "wah" >laid on top...really smooth. Yeah? Yeah! I *love* the sound of the Coloursound wah/fuzz that Dave used in the early 70s. Very unlike the more common Crybaby's, Vox's, Morleys, etc. One interesting thing about those is that there's no way to turn the wah OFF; the switch only turns the fuzz part on & off. You "deactivate" the wah by turning all the way "up" (toe down, heel up). >anyone else come up w/any new ones lately? As a matter of fact ... "Spirit of the Age", at the beginning of the first verse. Simon King is playing (mostly) a sparse, krautrock-type rhythm through the intro, then adds three ABSOLUTELY PERFECT accents as Bob sings "I should have liked you to have been DEEP FRO-ZEN too...", before he slips back into the normal beat. That's the kind of feeling and sensitivity that a great drummer *should* have, but that no amount of knowledge of "chops" and "fills" will impart. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 16 20:10:17 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 01:10:17 +0000 Subject: H/W remix & Thrilling Adventures. In-Reply-To: <007401c0856f$e7006240$1d11bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > It's interesting this - how people listen to music. I jhave long since said > that musicians have completely different ears from the average listener and > tend to listen to hear music in a completely different way from most of us. > But it never really occurred to me that the complete and utter fanatics of a > band or artist's work will also be listening in an unusual way - all the > time it will be with an ear as to echoes of what has gone before, to the > minutest detail in many cases, and I feel sure that this only clouds the > issue of just putting something on, forgetting what its origins are, whether > or not it's been out before in any way, shape or form and just experiencing > a complete offering without comparisons or such things. > What was it - turn on, tune in and drop out - how about just tuning in!!! Yeah, but by that argument if _Yuri Gagarin_ were any good it would be fine for Dave Anderson to re-release it countless times and flood the market as it would still be a valid listening experience. My problem is not so much that we've already paid for the ability to hear some of this stuff once (or in some cases twice), but that is a factor. It smacks a little bit of exploiting the fan-base, though I mean most of us are happy to be exploited - if Dave said to us all, "Can you send me a couple of quid?" we'd many of us do it I imagine, and this way we get something for paying Dave probably no more than that. More of my attitude is down to a fear that this recycling indicates creativity problems chez Brock and I'd much rather there was something happening than what looks like a machine winding down. I know there's a lot of Hawkwind out there now; but it's still not enough :-) Yours, Jon n/p Disarray - `Down at the Mall' -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From bart at ENGAGE.NU Fri Feb 16 21:25:02 2001 From: bart at ENGAGE.NU (Bart Brugmans) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 03:25:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Operation Solsttice Message-ID: Hi, today i bought the video Operation Solstice I must say I was shocked by the images of police smashing up the vans of travellers and the beating up of travellers going to the Stonehenge Free Festival. If you can find it, buy it! It is an important piece of history. My respect goes out to all of those who were there. --BArt From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Feb 16 23:41:17 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 15:11:17 +1030 Subject: VDGG Message-ID: I was to afraid to answer that one - I thought I might get hurled into some murky abyss, like on Monty Pythons Holy Grail, If I got it wrong ((whisper)) I still do not know the air speed velocity of an african/European swallow? ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Lockwood To: Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 2:14 AM Subject: Re: VDGG > Very Dull Grinding Guitars. > > > (DUCK!!!) > > > :-) > > > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ObToon. King Kurt - Destination Zululand. > > > > > Can someone please tell me what VDGG stands for? > > > > Layla. > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From CultJacket at AOL.COM Sat Feb 17 01:47:20 2001 From: CultJacket at AOL.COM (Chris Martin) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 01:47:20 EST Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! Message-ID: No we will get songs that were recorded as BOC for the remaster's. IE: Boorman The Chauffeur- Secret Treaties etc. The BD Archieves were Buck's Home Demo's. Its about time. God knows we didnt need another Comp. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 17 04:13:26 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 04:13:26 -0500 Subject: HW: Astoria & Nottingham 90 releases Message-ID: Yesterday, I had a chat to CDS and they informed me that the double CD release of the Astoria gig and the long awaited Nottingham 90 set should be out in time for the March/April mini-tour. Hip-hooray!!!!!!! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Feb 17 05:19:14 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:49:14 +1030 Subject: HW: Astoria & Nottingham 90 releases Message-ID: Hey allll right Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Allen To: Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 7:43 PM Subject: HW: Astoria & Nottingham 90 releases > Yesterday, I had a chat to CDS and they informed me that the double CD > release of the Astoria gig and the long awaited Nottingham 90 set should be > out in time for the March/April mini-tour. > > Hip-hooray!!!!!!! From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Sat Feb 17 08:17:52 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:17:52 -0000 Subject: HW and VDGG/Anthology of Cosmic Music Message-ID: The track listing at the bottom sounds excellent but be careful folks: I bought something called the 'Anthology of Cosmic Music- the Gold collection' and got a single disc containing: AD: Three good tracks the title of which I can't remember AD: Visions of Fire HW: Brainstorm HW: Masters of the Universe VDGG: Time Vaults VDGG: Faint and Forsaken Which is a decent disc but not the value for money I was expecting (since I thought I was getting the tracklist below). Cheers, Mark Original message: Hawkwind/Van Der Graaf Generator/Amon Duul: Anthology Of Cosmic Music -------------------------------------------------------------- Track Listing:=20 01. Space Is Deep=20 02. Orgone Accumulator=20 03. Upside Down=20 04. Sonic Attack=20 05. Time We Left This World T=20 06. Ten Seconds Of Forever=20 07. Brainstorm=20 08. Saigon Roulette=20 09. Gentlemen Prefer Blues=20 10. Main Slide=20 11. Tropic Of Conversation=20 12. Spooks=20 13. Epilogue=20 14. Liquidator=20 15. Rift Valley=20 16. Tarzan=20 17. Coil Night=20 18. Time Vaults=20 19. It All Went Up=20 20. Faint & Forsaken=20 21. Big Wheel=20 22. Urban Indian=20 23. Adrenaline Rush=20 24. Visions Of Fire=20 25. Drawn To The Flame Pt.1=20 26. They Call It Home=20 27. Die Losung=20 28. Drawn To The Flame Pt.2=20 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr Mark Jermy Automotive, Combustion and Energy Engineering School of Mechanical Engineering Cranfield University Cranfield, Beds, MK43 0AL, Great Britain Tel +44 1234 754680 Fax +44 1234 750425 http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/sme/aeod/homepage.htm From roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 17 09:04:24 2001 From: roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Roger Elmer) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:04:24 -0000 Subject: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC1 tonight Message-ID: Hi all - just noticed this 1977 sci-fi film is on BBC1 tonight at 12.20..... R -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 17 09:07:36 2001 From: roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Roger Elmer) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:07:36 -0000 Subject: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight Message-ID: Hi all - just noticed a 1977 sci-fi film Damnation Alley is on BBC1 tonight at 12.20..... 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Seems like it could be worth a listen. > > Karen > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hawkwind/Van Der Graaf Generator/Amon D??l: Anthology Of Cosmic Music > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Track Listing: > 01. Space Is Deep > 02. Orgone Accumulator > 03. Upside Down > 04. Sonic Attack > 05. Time We Left This World T > 06. Ten Seconds Of Forever > 07. Brainstorm > 08. Saigon Roulette > 09. Gentlemen Prefer Blues > 10. Main Slide > 11. Tropic Of Conversation > 12. Spooks > 13. Epilogue > 14. Liquidator > 15. Rift Valley > 16. Tarzan > 17. Coil Night > 18. Time Vaults > 19. It All Went Up > 20. Faint & Forsaken > 21. Big Wheel > 22. Urban Indian > 23. Adrenaline Rush > 24. Visions Of Fire > 25. Drawn To The Flame Pt.1 > 26. They Call It Home > 27. Die Losung > 28. Drawn To The Flame Pt.2 > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Layla Thompson wrote: > > > > Can someone please tell me what VDGG stands for? > > > > Layla. > > -- > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > - Frank Zappa From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Feb 17 08:47:53 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:47:53 -0000 Subject: HW -Canterbury Connection? Message-ID: in my dim and distant memory I seem to recal that a really early Soft machine track from somewhere netween '67 and '69 was the first to use the phrase 'heavy metal' in this context, but just not got the time to go checking this out - anyone here an expert who may know. On Feb 26th the six classic seventies Caravan albums are out, remastered to perfection with loads of bonus tracks, and at mid-price too (usual CDS towers availability), and on that date the band are receiving some kind of award in London and announcing the line-up for this year's Canterbury Music Festival to be held in August. A while ago, I heard a rumour that Hawkwind might be headlining, so watch out for the news just in case it was true. I must stress that this is not inside info being leaked, merely exactly what I say - a rumour I was told about,. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael R Godwin" To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: Re: BOC: "recognizing genius" > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > > I have no idea who first used the term to apply to music ... Hapdash and > > the Colored Coat perhaps? But it's probably safe to say that all > > subsequent usage of the term was inspired by/borrowed from Burroughs (and > > it would probably be a not-too-risky bet to make that even if Pearlman was > > one of the first to apply the term to music, that he got the idea from > > Meltzer). > > IIRC, the first Hapshash record came out in 67 or maybe 68 and was > credited to "Hapshash and the Coloured Coat featuring the Human Host and > the Heavy Metal Kids". I don't think there was any claim that the _music_ > was heavy metal - the title just namechecked William Burroughs. I remember > bands like Spooky Tooth at that time being described as heavy, but not > heavy metal. I almost believe that Pearlman was the first to use the term > to describe a musical style, but I think there were probably others before > him. > > As for the BOC claim to have written "about half of their catalog" - my > recollection is that the Pearlman writing credits fall off after the first > couple of albums. And they are all co-credits (presumably as lyricist) - I > don't think he has ever written a complete song. > > - Mike Godwin From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Feb 17 11:16:18 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:16:18 -0600 Subject: HW...RXXX Rik Message-ID: dear master of our ceremony...CULT... Please fill my hollow soul by taking a survey of the members of the Hawkcraft, seeing which, if any, have a willingness to participate in the cyber-realm,... and finding a fan in the computer sales avenue willing to do a package deal on a lot of machinery..... need more,,,,eat, sleep, drink....etc..... feed us! more! MORE! FEED US!! ODE TO LIFE From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 17 11:49:44 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 16:49:44 -0000 Subject: HW -Canterbury Connection? Message-ID: According to the HW website, it is true:). ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" To: Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 1:47 PM Subject: Re: HW -Canterbury Connection? > in my dim and distant memory I seem to recal that a really early Soft > machine track from somewhere netween '67 and '69 was the first to use the > phrase 'heavy metal' in this context, but just not got the time to go > checking this out - anyone here an expert who may know. > On Feb 26th the six classic seventies Caravan albums are out, remastered to > perfection with loads of bonus tracks, and at mid-price too (usual CDS > towers availability), and on that date the band are receiving some kind of > award in London and announcing the line-up for this year's Canterbury Music > Festival to be held in August. A while ago, I heard a rumour that Hawkwind > might be headlining, so watch out for the news just in case it was true. I > must stress that this is not inside info being leaked, merely exactly what I > say - a rumour I was told about,. > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael R Godwin" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:46 PM > Subject: Re: BOC: "recognizing genius" > > > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > > > I have no idea who first used the term to apply to music ... Hapdash and > > > the Colored Coat perhaps? But it's probably safe to say that all > > > subsequent usage of the term was inspired by/borrowed from Burroughs > (and > > > it would probably be a not-too-risky bet to make that even if Pearlman > was > > > one of the first to apply the term to music, that he got the idea from > > > Meltzer). > > > > IIRC, the first Hapshash record came out in 67 or maybe 68 and was > > credited to "Hapshash and the Coloured Coat featuring the Human Host and > > the Heavy Metal Kids". I don't think there was any claim that the _music_ > > was heavy metal - the title just namechecked William Burroughs. I remember > > bands like Spooky Tooth at that time being described as heavy, but not > > heavy metal. I almost believe that Pearlman was the first to use the term > > to describe a musical style, but I think there were probably others before > > him. > > > > As for the BOC claim to have written "about half of their catalog" - my > > recollection is that the Pearlman writing credits fall off after the first > > couple of albums. And they are all co-credits (presumably as lyricist) - I > > don't think he has ever written a complete song. > > > > - Mike Godwin > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Feb 17 12:04:49 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 12:04:49 EST Subject: HW -Canterbury Connection? Message-ID: In a message dated 2/17/01 11:49:41 AM, Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << in my dim and distant memory I seem to recal that a really early Soft > machine track from somewhere netween '67 and '69 was the first to use the > phrase 'heavy metal' in this context, but just not got the time to go > checking this out - anyone here an expert who may know. === dinna look at moi, squire, i'm just waiting for the expert to show up. if the soft machine had beaten steppenwolf to the use of phrase 'heavy metal' i think we would have heard about it, over 30 years later. dontcha think? "<>" gee, these expert's chairs are really comfy; might just take myself a nap.... From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Feb 17 14:08:47 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 19:08:47 -0000 Subject: HW Motorheasd on Daytime radio Message-ID: For those of you who don't tune in to Radio One all day every day, yuo missed a supreme moment in musical history yesterday. Daytime DJ, Simin Mayo, a longstanding presenter at Radio One, delivered his last show for the station as he is moving on. After three hours that included Bowie and the Ramones, he came to the last record, with the word going something like, 'I thought a lot about the last record I would play, something that would sum up my feelings at presenting the music here for and on behalf of you listeners out there.....but then I thought 'cobblers to that' and at that point in races 'Ace Of Spades' roaring on daytime radio like you've rarely heard. Bless the DJ - long may he run, wherever he goes. Magic. 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Message-ID: >On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > >> It's interesting this - how people listen to music. I jhave long since said >> that musicians have completely different ears from the average listener and >> tend to listen to hear music in a completely different way from most of us. >> But it never really occurred to me that the complete and utter fanatics of a >> band or artist's work will also be listening in an unusual way - all the >> time it will be with an ear as to echoes of what has gone before, to the >> minutest detail in many cases, and I feel sure that this only clouds the >> issue of just putting something on, forgetting what its origins are, whether >> or not it's been out before in any way, shape or form and just experiencing >> a complete offering without comparisons or such things. >> What was it - turn on, tune in and drop out - how about just tuning in!!! > > Yeah, but by that argument if _Yuri Gagarin_ were any good it >would be fine for Dave Anderson to re-release it countless times and flood >the market as it would still be a valid listening experience. My problem >is not so much that we've already paid for the ability to hear some of >this stuff once (or in some cases twice), but that is a factor. It >smacks a little bit of exploiting the fan-base, though I mean most of >us are happy to be exploited - if Dave said to us all, "Can you send >me a couple of quid?" we'd many of us do it I imagine, and this way we get >something for paying Dave probably no more than that. More of my attitude >is down to a fear that this recycling indicates creativity problems chez >Brock and I'd much rather there was something happening than what looks >like a machine winding down. I know there's a lot of Hawkwind out there >now; but it's still not enough :-) Yours, > Jon > I personally don't consider personal projects as recycling, though I do see your point, but then I like to hear different versions of songs. I can't help but wonder how much time Hawkwind spend trying to stop these unofficial releases and wish this time could be spent more productively on creating new music rather than sorting the old. Your bang-on about fronting Dave a couple of quid should he ask for it, wouldn't we all, for a band who've given us so many good times? I am disappointed about the lack of new material, but then I think thats because of the two mamoth gigs we've just had. These have got to be two of the rare occasions where we were not presented with an abundance of new material and I would have been amazed what with all of the work that must had gone into rehearsing if we had. Hearing a new hw number is still the greatest buzz I get, here's hoping for some completely new material a.s.a.p. geoff g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sat Feb 17 19:22:41 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 19:22:41 EST Subject: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight Message-ID: In a message dated 2/17/01 9:08:12 AM US Eastern Standard Time, roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > Hi all - just noticed a 1977 sci-fi film Damnation Alley is on BBC1 tonight > at 12.20..... > R > > I don't know, but I say, save yer time, skip the movie, and read the book instead! Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Sat Feb 17 20:32:24 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:32:24 +0100 Subject: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: <7c.11c7a514.27c06fd1@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi, >I don't know, but I say, save yer time, skip the movie, and read the book >instead! ACK, you're totally right, the book's many times better. BTW: The first time I watched this flick I wasn't well versed in Hawklore (that was years ago mind you). I only knew that both the Quark-album and DA were released in 1977. I thought that this couldn't be coicidental and thus was waiting for some HW-tunes to show up the whole time the movie was playing. When the end-titles began I couldn't believe that there was not even one HW-song in the whole thing. ;-) (c)IAO D+R nr: Roger Zelazny, "This Immortal" From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Sat Feb 17 21:20:54 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:20:54 +0000 Subject: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010218022216.009f4ec0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: In article <5.0.2.1.0.20010218022216.009f4ec0 at kommsrv.rz.unibw- muenchen.de>, Denis Regenbrecht writes >Hi, > >>I don't know, but I say, save yer time, skip the movie, and read the book >>instead! > >ACK, you're totally right, the book's many times better. > >BTW: The first time I watched this flick I wasn't well versed in Hawklore >(that was years ago mind you). I only knew that both the Quark-album and DA >were released in 1977. I thought that this couldn't be coicidental and thus >was waiting for some HW-tunes to show up the whole time the movie was >playing. When the end-titles began I couldn't believe that there was not >even one HW-song in the whole thing. ;-) The only similarity between the film and the book/song seems to have been the title. -- David Blair From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Feb 17 21:43:30 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:43:30 +0000 Subject: OFF: The Residents Message-ID: There's an excellent retrospective on the band in the most recent issue of The Wire magazine. -- Nick Medford From mordru at FLITE.NET Sun Feb 18 02:12:24 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:12:24 -0500 Subject: OFF: All Your Base In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Anyone know what group did this? It came up in a gaming forum I was in recently... whoever it is, it appears to be cheesy anime-scifi inspired... (the link is to a lengthy song w/ images apparently entitled "all your base belong to us" http://www.stileproject.com/base.swf warning - if you remove the "base.swf" you get a site you would not want to bring up on a work computer... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Sun Feb 18 02:18:24 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:18:24 -0500 Subject: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC1 tonight In-Reply-To: <008d01c098ea$fbfb6620$0d5a883e@roger> Message-ID: At 02:04 PM 2/17/01 -0000, Roger Elmer wrote: > Hi all - just noticed this 1977 sci-fi film is on BBC1 tonight at >12.20..... R The film was a major dissapointment. Calvert's song was far truer to the book than the movie was. Somehow Roscoe Tanner, tough guy rebel biker, becomes a clean cut military haircut character and there are four of them on the trip. Most of it was a waste, the only sequence that was effective was the carniverous roaches bit.... the visual effects were interesting, but hardly convincing... That part I could've forgiven (Zelazny was often quite unscientific, or rather, turned more towards inner sciences than external ones) if they hadn't butchered the character, which was the main part of interest in the novella... (Zelazny once stated that he preferred the short novella to the full length book he later expanded it into, which he did because his agent told him they might get a movie deal if he did)... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Feb 18 05:26:06 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:26:06 -0000 Subject: OFF: Porcy Tree tonight in Northampton Message-ID: Forgot this was tonight? Anyone else going to see Porcupine Tree at the Roadmenders in Northampton tonight? Nick From novadrive at HOME.COM Sun Feb 18 08:46:38 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 06:46:38 -0700 Subject: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: <7c.11c7a514.27c06fd1@aol.com> Message-ID: Seconded: Fantastic book; really, really dumb movie. KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Joe Loehr Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 5:23 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In a message dated 2/17/01 9:08:12 AM US Eastern Standard Time, roger at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: Hi all - just noticed a 1977 sci-fi film Damnation Alley is on BBC1 tonight at 12.20..... R I don't know, but I say, save yer time, skip the movie, and read the book instead! Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 18 10:39:40 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:39:40 -0500 Subject: HW: Croydon, Aldershot & Nottingham (FAO Dave & Kris) Message-ID: What will the attitude be towards audio/video taping of these gigs? Will there be an official recording of this mini-tour? Regards, COLIN From mail at SUPER-TUNES.DE Sun Feb 18 11:52:28 2001 From: mail at SUPER-TUNES.DE (Chris Appelt) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:52:28 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: Hi Dave & Kris, I shot a pic from the ACADEMY which I can send you - but to which adress? You can see a very low quality scan at http://www.super-tunes.de/hawkwind.htm Please let me know if you're interested, and I will send you a copy. Chris From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Feb 18 13:30:17 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:30:17 +0000 Subject: Out of the Shad^H^H^H^HWoodwork In-Reply-To: <200101241228.MAA24502@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, M Holmes wrote: > The Pied Piper of Hamlyn. Now *there's* a concept album. It could be > done with just so much more menace... Arthur Brown had kids running round after him at the last Canterbury Festival. I can see how it was done now... He should certainly be cast in any film that's made of the dark version described above :-) Yours, Jon P.S. Anyone else thinking of the child-catcher from _Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang_? No? Just me then, OK. ObCD: Kyuss - _Welcome to Sky Valley_ -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sun Feb 18 14:03:42 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 19:03:42 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help Message-ID: To Chris, Nice photos on that site. By the way, please note that I played with the Hawks that night also - I can give you a list of which numbers I did if you are interested. Captain Bl at ck ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Appelt To: Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 4:52 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawk help > Hi Dave & Kris, > > > I shot a pic from the ACADEMY which I can send you - but to which adress? > > You can see a very low quality scan at > > http://www.super-tunes.de/hawkwind.htm > > > Please let me know if you're interested, and I will send you a copy. > > Chris From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Feb 18 13:03:14 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:03:14 -0000 Subject: OFF: magma question/Brockspace demo Message-ID: Not out yet - so, no I haven't. Oh, by the way, I finally got around to comparing my review copy of 'Brockspace' CD with the official release and mine has 14 tracks and lasts 42 mons against the real one that has 17 tracks and 52 mins - do any of those that got the mis-pressed version that was on sale at the Astoria know how many tracks are on that one and if it's the same length as the one I have, for which the missing tracks are the first three on the 'real' album - confused? You will be..... Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Regenbrecht" To: Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: Re: OFF: astralasia/magma question > BTW, has anyone here already listened to the new 3CD Box-Set of the > Theusz-Hamtaahk Trilogy? I'm interested in buying it, but don't know if > it's worth the money (260 Francs which is about 45$). > > (c)IAO > > D+R > > np: Magma, "Mekanik Destruktiw Kommand?h" > > -- > "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" > Hassan I Sabbah > > www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Sun Feb 18 16:58:34 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 21:58:34 -0000 Subject: OFF: magma question/Brockspace demo Message-ID: Andy Garibaldi asked: >Oh, by the way, I finally got around to comparing my review copy of >'Brockspace' CD with the official release and mine has 14 tracks and lasts >42 mons against the real one that has 17 tracks and 52 mins - do any of >those that got the mis-pressed version that was on sale at the Astoria know >how many tracks are on that one and if it's the same length as the one I >have, for which the missing tracks are the first three on the 'real' album - >confused? Yep - the mis-pressed version has 15 tracks. It misses out tracks 1, 2 & 17 (Life Form, Some People Never Die & Do You Want This Body) from the official release, but inserts Damage of Life between Sex Dreams & To Be Or Not To Be. Total time is 45 mins. BTW, has anyone heard back from Voiceprint re. the free CD yet? How do people feel about this offer? What I want to know is, what were they originally planning on offering as the free CD (assuming that they hadn't planned on mis-pressing Spacebrock!)? Dave From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Feb 18 18:17:08 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:17:08 -0000 Subject: OFF: magma question/Brockspace demo Message-ID: great question to which we will probably never know the answer. I will ask Rob but don;t expect miracles, Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bottomley" To: Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 9:58 PM Subject: Re: OFF: magma question/Brockspace demo > BTW, has anyone heard back from Voiceprint re. the free CD yet? How do > people feel about this offer? What I want to know is, what were they > originally planning on offering as the free CD (assuming that they hadn't > planned on mis-pressing Spacebrock!)? > > Dave From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Feb 18 22:08:58 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:38:58 +1030 Subject: I need some new sounds - hep meh Message-ID: Hi Star Warriors My poor ole wavestation wants some new sound cards or PCM cards can anyone help me or direct me to a source - I will pay or even sell my body parts if necessary ((hee hee)) Somebody hep meh please -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Held who's entirely unconnected), and The Scourge of the Earth, under which alter-egos he's remixed two Hawkwind singles and in one case at least done a hugely entertaining job. So, all the Timelords are Hawkwind-connected at one or two removes and this must logically include the good Doctor. On-topic :-) And, more seriously, if anyone can draw a sharp line between the concepts of Dr. Who and Moorcock's Time Corps I shall be duly impressed. Yours, Jon [1] And since the car was the only member of the band that appeared when they played Top of the Pops I guess it was actually their frontman. ObCD: Anubian Lights - _The Eternal Sky_ -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 19 06:45:55 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:45:55 GMT Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: Richard Lockwood's message of Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:43:57 -0000 Message-ID: Richard Lockwood writes: > BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington Crescent, Does it do both Standard Rules and the Chiswick Rules (Amended) Game? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 19 07:08:00 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:08:00 GMT Subject: Out of the Shad^H^H^H^HWoodwork In-Reply-To: Jon Jarrett's message of Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:30:17 +0000 Message-ID: Jon Jarrett writes: > On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, M Holmes wrote: > > > The Pied Piper of Hamlyn. Now *there's* a concept album. It could be > > done with just so much more menace... > > Arthur Brown had kids running round after him at the last > Canterbury Festival. I can see how it was done now... He should certainly > be cast in any film that's made of the dark version described above > :-) Yours, > > P.S. Anyone else thinking of the child-catcher from > _Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang_? No? Just me then, OK. My favourite character! That was such a sweet movie and I liked the way it turned into a nightmare after all the kids escaped. FoFP From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Feb 19 07:22:50 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:22:50 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <200102191145.LAA00847@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yep - and takes the Finsbury Option as Standard. There's also built in functionality for the Holland Park 2000 ruleset. Cheers, Rich. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 19 February 2001 11:46 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent Richard Lockwood writes: > BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington Crescent, Does it do both Standard Rules and the Chiswick Rules (Amended) Game? FoFP _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Feb 19 06:27:01 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 07:27:01 EDT Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 17 Feb 2001, at 1:47, Chris Martin wrote: > No we will get songs that were recorded as BOC for the remaster's. IE: > Boorman The Chauffeur- Secret Treaties etc. The BD Archieves were > Buck's Home Demo's. Its about time. God knows we didnt need another > Comp. What do you think the chances are for a few new live tunes? That would follow the pattern Sony has pursued with other bands getting the re-master treatment... theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Feb 19 06:30:26 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 07:30:26 EDT Subject: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010218022216.009f4ec0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: On 18 Feb 2001, at 2:32, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > Hi, > > >I don't know, but I say, save yer time, skip the movie, and read the > >book instead! > > ACK, you're totally right, the book's many times better. > Well, I never read the book, and the movie isn't exactly Citizen Kane, but remember, it does feature Warren Oates and Peter Fonda in the same flick, so perhaps we should be preapared to cut it a little slack... theo From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 19 07:35:07 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:35:07 GMT Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: Richard Lockwood's message of Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:22:50 -0000 Message-ID: Richard Lockwood writes: > > BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington Crescent, > > Does it do both Standard Rules and the Chiswick Rules (Amended) Game? > Yep - and takes the Finsbury Option as Standard. There's also built in > functionality for the Holland Park 2000 ruleset. I've always wondered: how does this treat the Eurotunnel link? FoFP From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Feb 19 08:45:56 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:45:56 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <200102191235.MAA24107@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington Crescent, > > Does it do both Standard Rules and the Chiswick Rules (Amended) Game? > Yep - and takes the Finsbury Option as Standard. There's also built in > functionality for the Holland Park 2000 ruleset. I've always wondered: how does this treat the Eurotunnel link? Ignored, unless overground lines - including Silverlink - are specifically allowed or brought into play. Then it counts as a standard line in quadrant 4 until the actual tunnel, which is the extent of the allowable moves. A standard token weighting of two red applies, and a Becks coefficient of at least three is generally regarded as the safest minimum to avoid the possibility of putting yourself in spoon or wrench. Cheers, Rich. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 19 09:16:41 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:16:41 GMT Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: Richard Lockwood's message of Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:45:56 -0000 Message-ID: Richard Lockwood writes: > > > BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington Crescent, > > > > Does it do both Standard Rules and the Chiswick Rules (Amended) Game? > > > Yep - and takes the Finsbury Option as Standard. There's also built in > > functionality for the Holland Park 2000 ruleset. > > I've always wondered: how does this treat the Eurotunnel link? > > Ignored, unless overground lines - including Silverlink - are specifically > allowed or brought into play. Then it counts as a standard line in quadrant > 4 until the actual tunnel, which is the extent of the allowable moves. A > standard token weighting of two red applies, and a Becks coefficient of at > least three is generally regarded as the safest minimum to avoid the > possibility of putting yourself in spoon or wrench. That's most interesting. However Garden, in his 1998 exposition of the Paddington Gambit, argued that the downside risk could be mitigated by a blocking move at Camden South supported by a feint at the Angel. It's undoubtedly true that even limited availability of the Chunnel Link in overground games (and to a certain extent Docklands Light Railway) has destabilised conventional approaches to aggressive strategy to the extent where a whole new approach may be required. What's needed is an experienced attacker with a theoretical bent to provide the basics of this. Unfortunately there seems to be no player of Garden's reknown who's willing to make a start at such a worthy endeavour. It's quite criminal that no National Lottery funds have been allocated to supported local clubs playing the Great Game. If this drift continues, mark my words, we'll be overtaken by some bastardised American variation based on the "Subway" and it'll be Rounders all over again. > Rich. FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Feb 19 09:24:29 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:24:29 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <200102191416.OAA04547@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >Richard Lockwood writes: > >> > > BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington Crescent, >> > >> > Does it do both Standard Rules and the Chiswick Rules (Amended) Game? >> >> > Yep - and takes the Finsbury Option as Standard. There's also built in >> > functionality for the Holland Park 2000 ruleset. >> >> I've always wondered: how does this treat the Eurotunnel link? >> >> Ignored, unless overground lines - including Silverlink - are specifically >> allowed or brought into play. Then it counts as a standard line in quadrant >> 4 until the actual tunnel, which is the extent of the allowable moves. A >> standard token weighting of two red applies, and a Becks coefficient of at >> least three is generally regarded as the safest minimum to avoid the >> possibility of putting yourself in spoon or wrench. > >That's most interesting. However Garden, in his 1998 exposition of the >Paddington Gambit, argued that the downside risk could be mitigated by a >blocking move at Camden South supported by a feint at the Angel. It's >undoubtedly true that even limited availability of the Chunnel Link in >overground games (and to a certain extent Docklands Light Railway) has >destabilised conventional approaches to aggressive strategy to the >extent where a whole new approach may be required. What's needed is an >experienced attacker with a theoretical bent to provide the basics of >this. Unfortunately there seems to be no player of Garden's reknown >who's willing to make a start at such a worthy endeavour. It's quite >criminal that no National Lottery funds have been allocated to supported >local clubs playing the Great Game. > >If this drift continues, mark my words, we'll be overtaken by some >bastardised American variation based on the "Subway" and it'll be >Rounders all over again. > >> Rich. > >FoFP hello Michael "Friend oFP" Bastardized American From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Feb 19 09:32:41 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:32:41 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <200102191416.OAA04547@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > > BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington Crescent, > > > > Does it do both Standard Rules and the Chiswick Rules (Amended) Game? > > > Yep - and takes the Finsbury Option as Standard. There's also built in > > functionality for the Holland Park 2000 ruleset. > > I've always wondered: how does this treat the Eurotunnel link? > > Ignored, unless overground lines - including Silverlink - are specifically > allowed or brought into play. Then it counts as a standard line in quadrant > 4 until the actual tunnel, which is the extent of the allowable moves. A > standard token weighting of two red applies, and a Becks coefficient of at > least three is generally regarded as the safest minimum to avoid the > possibility of putting yourself in spoon or wrench. >That's most interesting. However Garden, in his 1998 exposition of the >Paddington Gambit, argued that the downside risk could be mitigated by a >blocking move at Camden South supported by a feint at the Angel. It's >undoubtedly true that even limited availability of the Chunnel Link in >overground games (and to a certain extent Docklands Light Railway) has >destabilised conventional approaches to aggressive strategy to the >extent where a whole new approach may be required. What's needed is an >experienced attacker with a theoretical bent to provide the basics of >this. Unfortunately there seems to be no player of Garden's reknown >who's willing to make a start at such a worthy endeavour. It's quite >criminal that no National Lottery funds have been allocated to supported >local clubs playing the Great Game. Mrs Trellis perhaps? Garden's theories have always been fascinating - but remember, this is referring to Holland Park 2000, which obviously was only in a very early draft in 1998, and wasn't at that stage greatly different from the Chalk Farm 1984 ruleset, with which Garden was far more familiar. > >If this drift continues, mark my words, we'll be overtaken by some >bastardised American variation based on the "Subway" and it'll be >Rounders all over again. Don't tempt fate! :-) Cheers, R. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Feb 19 09:42:06 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:42:06 +0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: what do you mean by, "it'll be Rounders all over again"? Layla >>> rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM 02/19/01 02:32pm >>> > > > BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington Crescent, > > > > Does it do both Standard Rules and the Chiswick Rules (Amended) Game? > > > Yep - and takes the Finsbury Option as Standard. There's also built in > > functionality for the Holland Park 2000 ruleset. > > I've always wondered: how does this treat the Eurotunnel link? > > Ignored, unless overground lines - including Silverlink - are specifically > allowed or brought into play. Then it counts as a standard line in quadrant > 4 until the actual tunnel, which is the extent of the allowable moves. A > standard token weighting of two red applies, and a Becks coefficient of at > least three is generally regarded as the safest minimum to avoid the > possibility of putting yourself in spoon or wrench. >That's most interesting. However Garden, in his 1998 exposition of the >Paddington Gambit, argued that the downside risk could be mitigated by a >blocking move at Camden South supported by a feint at the Angel. It's >undoubtedly true that even limited availability of the Chunnel Link in >overground games (and to a certain extent Docklands Light Railway) has >destabilised conventional approaches to aggressive strategy to the >extent where a whole new approach may be required. What's needed is an >experienced attacker with a theoretical bent to provide the basics of >this. Unfortunately there seems to be no player of Garden's reknown >who's willing to make a start at such a worthy endeavour. It's quite >criminal that no National Lottery funds have been allocated to supported >local clubs playing the Great Game. Mrs Trellis perhaps? Garden's theories have always been fascinating - but remember, this is referring to Holland Park 2000, which obviously was only in a very early draft in 1998, and wasn't at that stage greatly different from the Chalk Farm 1984 ruleset, with which Garden was far more familiar. > >If this drift continues, mark my words, we'll be overtaken by some >bastardised American variation based on the "Subway" and it'll be >Rounders all over again. Don't tempt fate! :-) Cheers, R. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 19 09:47:03 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:47:03 GMT Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: Richard Lockwood's message of Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:32:41 -0000 Message-ID: Richard Lockwood writes: > > > > BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington > > > > Crescent, > > > Does it do both Standard Rules and the Chiswick Rules (Amended) > > > Game? > > > Yep - and takes the Finsbury Option as Standard. There's also > > > built in functionality for the Holland Park 2000 ruleset. > > I've always wondered: how does this treat the Eurotunnel link? > > Ignored, unless overground lines - including Silverlink - are > > specifically allowed or brought into play. Then it counts as a > > standard line in quadrant 4 until the actual tunnel, which is the > > extent of the allowable moves. A standard token weighting of two > > red applies, and a Becks coefficient of at least three is generally > > regarded as the safest minimum to avoid the possibility of putting > > yourself in spoon or wrench. > >That's most interesting. However Garden, in his 1998 exposition of > >the Paddington Gambit, argued that the downside risk could be > >mitigated by a blocking move at Camden South supported by a feint at > >the Angel. It's undoubtedly true that even limited availability of > >the Chunnel Link in overground games (and to a certain extent > >Docklands Light Railway) has destabilised conventional approaches to > >aggressive strategy to the extent where a whole new approach may be > >required. What's needed is an experienced attacker with a > >theoretical bent to provide the basics of this. Unfortunately there > >seems to be no player of Garden's reknown who's willing to make a > >start at such a worthy endeavour. It's quite criminal that no > >National Lottery funds have been allocated to supported local clubs > >playing the Great Game. > Mrs Trellis perhaps? Well, while she's quite brilliant, she's unconventional when not actually eccentric. While she certainly has the experience (I've heard she plays as many as 5 games every day with her maiden aunt) I'm unconvinced that she has the aggressive streak necessary to develop a new attack theory. Conversely, having developed her own variation on the game (though quite shockingly not following purist traditions) she clearly has the passion and intellect necessary, as well as the spare time denied to us armchair fans. > Garden's theories have always been fascinating - > but remember, this is referring to Holland Park 2000, which obviously > was only in a very early draft in 1998, and wasn't at that stage > greatly different from the Chalk Farm 1984 ruleset, with which Garden > was far more familiar. Well quite. This is of course why I believe that the game will move forward only through encouragement to draw in younger players. Sadly, with the decline of the Daily Game on the wireless, I have to wonder if today's teenagers will even have heard of Mornington Crescent. Soon they'll start to believe that it's just another Tube Station that's always closed at weekends. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 19 09:49:16 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:49:16 GMT Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: Layla Thompson's message of Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:42:06 +0000 Message-ID: Layla Thompson writes: > what do you mean by, "it'll be Rounders all over again"? We're all still quite upset at a perfectly sensible game like Rounders being turned into the hoo-ha that is its poor cousin Baseball. Next thing you know, the yanks will be letting women play soccer. > Layla FoFP From iainferguson at CS.COM Mon Feb 19 09:57:31 2001 From: iainferguson at CS.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:57:31 +0000 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent (please) Message-ID: Folks, can you re-title your subject line please. I'm downloading stuff that has nought to do with Hawkwind help. or Hawkwind. many thanks iain M Holmes wrote: > Richard Lockwood writes: > > > > > > BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington > > > > > Crescent, > > > > > Does it do both Standard Rules and the Chiswick Rules (Amended) > > > > Game? > > > > > Yep - and takes the Finsbury Option as Standard. There's also > > > > built in functionality for the Holland Park 2000 ruleset. > > > > I've always wondered: how does this treat the Eurotunnel link? > > > > Ignored, unless overground lines - including Silverlink - are > > > specifically allowed or brought into play. Then it counts as a > > > standard line in quadrant 4 until the actual tunnel, which is the > > > extent of the allowable moves. A standard token weighting of two > > > red applies, and a Becks coefficient of at least three is generally > > > regarded as the safest minimum to avoid the possibility of putting > > > yourself in spoon or wrench. > > > >That's most interesting. However Garden, in his 1998 exposition of > > >the Paddington Gambit, argued that the downside risk could be > > >mitigated by a blocking move at Camden South supported by a feint at > > >the Angel. It's undoubtedly true that even limited availability of > > >the Chunnel Link in overground games (and to a certain extent > > >Docklands Light Railway) has destabilised conventional approaches to > > >aggressive strategy to the extent where a whole new approach may be > > >required. What's needed is an experienced attacker with a > > >theoretical bent to provide the basics of this. Unfortunately there > > >seems to be no player of Garden's reknown who's willing to make a > > >start at such a worthy endeavour. It's quite criminal that no > > >National Lottery funds have been allocated to supported local clubs > > >playing the Great Game. > > > Mrs Trellis perhaps? > > Well, while she's quite brilliant, she's unconventional when not > actually eccentric. While she certainly has the experience (I've heard > she plays as many as 5 games every day with her maiden aunt) I'm > unconvinced that she has the aggressive streak necessary to develop a > new attack theory. Conversely, having developed her own variation on the > game (though quite shockingly not following purist traditions) she > clearly has the passion and intellect necessary, as well as the spare > time denied to us armchair fans. > > > Garden's theories have always been fascinating - > > but remember, this is referring to Holland Park 2000, which obviously > > was only in a very early draft in 1998, and wasn't at that stage > > greatly different from the Chalk Farm 1984 ruleset, with which Garden > > was far more familiar. > > Well quite. This is of course why I believe that the game will move > forward only through encouragement to draw in younger players. Sadly, > with the decline of the Daily Game on the wireless, I have to wonder if > today's teenagers will even have heard of Mornington Crescent. Soon > they'll start to believe that it's just another Tube Station that's > always closed at weekends. > > FoFP From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Feb 19 10:08:04 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:08:04 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <200102191447.OAA19374@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > > > BTW - if anyone fancies playing a bit of online Mornington > > > > Crescent, > > > Does it do both Standard Rules and the Chiswick Rules (Amended) > > > Game? > > > Yep - and takes the Finsbury Option as Standard. There's also > > > built in functionality for the Holland Park 2000 ruleset. > > I've always wondered: how does this treat the Eurotunnel link? > > Ignored, unless overground lines - including Silverlink - are > > specifically allowed or brought into play. Then it counts as a > > standard line in quadrant 4 until the actual tunnel, which is the > > extent of the allowable moves. A standard token weighting of two > > red applies, and a Becks coefficient of at least three is generally > > regarded as the safest minimum to avoid the possibility of putting > > yourself in spoon or wrench. > >That's most interesting. However Garden, in his 1998 exposition of > >the Paddington Gambit, argued that the downside risk could be > >mitigated by a blocking move at Camden South supported by a feint at > >the Angel. It's undoubtedly true that even limited availability of > >the Chunnel Link in overground games (and to a certain extent > >Docklands Light Railway) has destabilised conventional approaches to > >aggressive strategy to the extent where a whole new approach may be > >required. What's needed is an experienced attacker with a > >theoretical bent to provide the basics of this. Unfortunately there > >seems to be no player of Garden's reknown who's willing to make a > >start at such a worthy endeavour. It's quite criminal that no > >National Lottery funds have been allocated to supported local clubs > >playing the Great Game. > Mrs Trellis perhaps? >Well, while she's quite brilliant, she's unconventional when not >actually eccentric. While she certainly has the experience (I've heard >she plays as many as 5 games every day with her maiden aunt) I'm >unconvinced that she has the aggressive streak necessary to develop a >new attack theory. Conversely, having developed her own variation on the >game (though quite shockingly not following purist traditions) she >clearly has the passion and intellect necessary, as well as the spare >time denied to us armchair fans. Hmm. Of course the mighty Ruttsborough was always good for a new attacking strategy (See "The Ongar Denial With Spikes" - 1947, "Controlling Your Quadrant Through Fear And Intimidation" - 1948, and his classic article in the International MC Journal (Spring 1950 edition), "The Suspect Package and where to buy the nails"). > Garden's theories have always been fascinating - > but remember, this is referring to Holland Park 2000, which obviously > was only in a very early draft in 1998, and wasn't at that stage > greatly different from the Chalk Farm 1984 ruleset, with which Garden > was far more familiar. >Well quite. This is of course why I believe that the game will move >forward only through encouragement to draw in younger players. Sadly, >with the decline of the Daily Game on the wireless, I have to wonder if >today's teenagers will even have heard of Mornington Crescent. Soon >they'll start to believe that it's just another Tube Station that's >always closed at weekends. Hence my joy at the growth of the game on the internet. :-) Cheers, Rich. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 19 10:23:37 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:23:37 GMT Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: Richard Lockwood's message of Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:08:04 -0000 Message-ID: Richard Lockwood writes: > Hmm. Of course the mighty Ruttsborough was always good for a new attacking > strategy (See "The Ongar Denial With Spikes" - 1947, "Controlling Your > Quadrant Through Fear And Intimidation" - 1948, and his classic article in > the International MC Journal > (Spring 1950 edition) Yes. His untimely death was a great blow to the Game. And it turned out that the steamroller didn't even have right of way. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 19 10:26:47 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:26:47 GMT Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: iain ferguson's message of Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:57:31 +0000 Message-ID: iain ferguson writes: > Folks, > > can you re-title your subject line please. I'm downloading stuff that has > nought to do with Hawkwind help. or Hawkwind. It's not until the final move of our cunning game of Obscure Hawkwind Links that all will be revealed. I'm sure Jon Jarret will be happy to administer the coup de grace... FoFP From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Feb 19 11:08:56 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:08:56 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <200102191449.OAA20314@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Layla Thompson writes: > >> what do you mean by, "it'll be Rounders all over again"? FoFP replied: > We're all still quite upset at a perfectly sensible game like Rounders > being turned into the hoo-ha that is its poor cousin Baseball. Be careful you don't start an international incident. North Americans get your bats! :-) Chip, Larry, Theo, Andrew...you with me? > Next thing you know, the yanks will be letting women play soccer. Ouch! I heard that Soccer is nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. Interesting for a game that promotes fanatic nationalism and incites violence in the streets. Truly a noble game. Maybe next time they'll nominate U.S. air strikes? ;-) Brian From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Feb 19 11:22:08 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:22:08 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <200102191449.OAA20314@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >Be careful you don't start an international incident. North Americans get your >bats! :-) > >Chip, Larry, Theo, Andrew...you with me? >I heard that Soccer is nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. Interesting for a >game that promotes fanatic nationalism and incites violence in the streets. >Truly a noble game. Yes, I realize I just set up baseball for the same accusations. :-) Brian From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Feb 19 10:24:40 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:24:40 EDT Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 19 Feb 2001, at 11:08, Brian Halligan wrote: > > Layla Thompson writes: > > > >> what do you mean by, "it'll be Rounders all over again"? > > FoFP replied: > > We're all still quite upset at a perfectly sensible game like > > Rounders being turned into the hoo-ha that is its poor cousin > > Baseball. > > Be careful you don't start an international incident. North Americans > get your bats! :-) > > Chip, Larry, Theo, Andrew...you with me? What, deride a sport where the pitcher [er, is it 'bowler'?] actually wants the batter to hit the ball? Nope, you're on your own here... > > Next thing you know, the yanks will be letting women play soccer. > Those were women??? Holy shit... > Ouch! > > I heard that Soccer is nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. > Interesting for a game that promotes fanatic nationalism and incites > violence in the streets. Truly a noble game. > Right! When's the last time us savage Americans had a spectator killed at a game, or had the fans tear the stadium apart? 'Course that's only because soccer's so damned boring that the fans have all this built-up frustration, etc... How could the same people have invented the hallowed game of golf? theo From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 19 11:32:29 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:32:29 GMT Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: Ted Jackson's message of Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:24:40 EDT Message-ID: Ted Jackson writes: > > I heard that Soccer is nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. > > Interesting for a game that promotes fanatic nationalism and incites > > violence in the streets. Truly a noble game. > > > Right! When's the last time us savage Americans had a spectator > killed at a game, or had the fans tear the stadium apart? It probably concentrates the mind a little when folks realise that the other fans are probably armed. I advocate that for the UK too of course, but must declare an interest: the more dead soccer fans, the less demand for the TV stations to cancel Buffy The Vampire Slayer just because they couldn't get some damned football game finished on time. FoFP From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Feb 19 11:38:51 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:38:51 EST Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: In a message dated 2/19/01 11:26:21 AM, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: << Chip, Larry, Theo, Andrew...you with me? >> ===== not sure which 'larry' you mean, or if'n there's a 'which'.... *little league:1969-73 *high school baseball: one inning in '74, as a junior. that's right; one-half inning to be specific. ...was on-deck for bottom of the inning but game over/we won. ....was a much better player in little league. == "<>" hoo-hah! freshman football '71 6th man, sophomore basketball, '72 === spring training! yesssss! From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Feb 19 12:29:54 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:29:54 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <3A910277.17039.E30AC4@localhost> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: => Right! When's the last time us savage Americans had a spectator => killed at a game, or had the fans tear the stadium apart? 'Course => that's only because soccer's so damned boring that the fans have => all this built-up frustration, etc... It seems, in my experience, US fans reserve the violence and mayhem for after the match, particularly if their team has won an important victory. "Hey, we just won the championship, let's go downtown and bust some shop windows and turn over a couple of cars!" ;-) (This seems more prevalent of fans of college teams.:) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Feb 19 12:41:34 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:41:34 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawk help / OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <75.1079589c.27c2a61b@aol.com> Message-ID: <> wrote: > << Chip, Larry, Theo, Andrew...you with me? >> > ===== > not sure which 'larry' you mean, or if'n there's a 'which'.... I meant you, <>, because I remember that you were part of the "death of baseball" discussion and I assumed from your comments that you were a fan. > *high school baseball: one inning in '74, as a junior. > that's right; one-half inning to be specific. > ...was on-deck for bottom of the inning but game over/we won. Just like "Moonlight Graham" in Field of Dreams. ;-) > spring training! > yesssss! Where the crack of the bat and the "whump" of Chuck Knoblauch hitting a bystander with an errant throw signal the end of our winter doldrums. Go Jays! Brian From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Mon Feb 19 13:22:31 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:22:31 -0600 Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight Message-ID: > Well, I never read the book, and the movie isn't exactly Citizen > Kane, but remember, it does feature Warren Oates and Peter Fonda > in the same flick, so perhaps we should be preapared to cut it a > little slack... > > theo I haven't seen Damnation Alley, but I know Warren Oates and Peter Fonda are not in it. Warren Oates is my favorite actor. I believe you might be thinking of Race With The Devil, Oates, Fonda, Loretta Switt, (where they see a satanic cult sacrifice somebody and spend the rest of the movie running away in a motor home). From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Feb 19 12:33:45 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:33:45 EDT Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: <005a01c09aa0$ec8296c0$ea02e03f@m8v3c0> Message-ID: On 19 Feb 2001, at 12:22, Dan Witt wrote: > I haven't seen Damnation Alley, but I know Warren Oates and Peter > Fonda are not in it. Warren Oates is my favorite actor. I believe > you might be thinking of Race With The Devil, Oates, Fonda, Loretta > Switt, (where they see a satanic cult sacrifice somebody and spend the > rest of the movie running away in a motor home). Absolutely right, sir. That's the one. Who is in Damnation Alley, and how did I make such an extrapolation? That's with George Peppard, right? Goddamned Alzheimers...BTW, I'm a fan of Oates' as well, esp. his collaborations with Peckinpah... theo From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Feb 19 13:35:12 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:35:12 +0000 Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight Message-ID: what's this movie about then? Damnation Alley I mean. I'm presuming it has nothing to do with Hawkwind...... Who IS in it? >>> Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET 02/19/01 06:22pm >>> > Well, I never read the book, and the movie isn't exactly Citizen > Kane, but remember, it does feature Warren Oates and Peter Fonda > in the same flick, so perhaps we should be preapared to cut it a > little slack... > > theo I haven't seen Damnation Alley, but I know Warren Oates and Peter Fonda are not in it. Warren Oates is my favorite actor. I believe you might be thinking of Race With The Devil, Oates, Fonda, Loretta Switt, (where they see a satanic cult sacrifice somebody and spend the rest of the movie running away in a motor home). From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Feb 19 13:47:54 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:47:54 -0000 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: > iain ferguson writes: > > > Folks, > > > > can you re-title your subject line please. I'm downloading stuff that has > > nought to do with Hawkwind help. or Hawkwind. > > It's not until the final move of our cunning game of Obscure Hawkwind > Links that all will be revealed. I'm sure Jon Jarret will be happy to > administer the coup de grace... > > FoFP Does it involve the Ladbroke Grove over and underpass - or am I thinking of some other game? jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Mon Feb 19 14:13:05 2001 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:13:05 +0000 Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! In-Reply-To: <3A90CAC5.13694.971AB@localhost> Message-ID: Ted Jackson wrote: >What do you think the chances are for a few new live tunes? That >would follow the pattern Sony has pursued with other bands getting >the re-master treatment... I'd love to hear the complete set for Some Enchanted Evening. Are there any hidden gems in unreleased songs? The recent series of Uriah Heep remasters included some outtake songs which were far better than much of the stuff that made it on to the actual albums. -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Feb 19 13:13:29 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:13:29 EDT Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 19 Feb 2001, at 19:13, Tim Hall wrote: > Ted Jackson wrote: > > >What do you think the chances are for a few new live tunes? That > >would follow the pattern Sony has pursued with other bands getting > >the re-master treatment... > > I'd love to hear the complete set for Some Enchanted Evening. > Was that all from one show? I don't have it with me, but I was under the impression that it was pieced together from various concerts... theo From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Mon Feb 19 14:09:31 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:09:31 +0100 Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, >what's this movie about then? Damnation Alley I mean. The movie's based upon a novel by Roger Zelazny. In short, it's about the adventures of some guys in a post-nuclear-war world. They have to travel from California to Boston and encounter a lot of strange things (e.g. giant mutated spiders) during their journey. > I'm presuming it has nothing to do with Hawkwind...... Only indirectly, both the movie and the song are based on the same novel. >Who IS in it? George Peppard, Jan Michael Vincent, Paul Winfield for example more info can be found here: http://us.imdb.com/Details?0075909 (c)IAO D+R From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Mon Feb 19 15:21:13 2001 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (Tony Hogard) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:21:13 -0600 Subject: OFF: Out of the Shad^H^H^H^HWoodwork Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, M Holmes wrote: > The Pied Piper of Hamlyn. Now *there's* a concept album. It could > be done with just so much more menace... Coincidentally, I've just been writing some songs about the old Rattenf?nger. It's a horrible legend if you take it literally: the mass abduction of 130 children. Hogard From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Mon Feb 19 15:29:30 2001 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:29:30 +0000 Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! In-Reply-To: <3A912A07.20526.17D9CA4@localhost> Message-ID: Ted Jackson wrote: >Was that all from one show? I don't have it with me, but I was under >the impression that it was pieced together from various concerts... I know :) But judging by the dates, it was all the same tour. I suppose what I meant was an album with the whole set for that tour. IIRC, two songs were recorded on the British leg of the tour - what's the chance of ever seeing them over here again? -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Mon Feb 19 16:27:34 2001 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:27:34 -0500 Subject: I need some new sounds - hep meh In-Reply-To: <004701c09a21$4e093b40$72d0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: Captain, Sorry about not noticing you slipping thru the gates. I found a few locations that might have what you are looking for: http://www.masterbits.de/rom_e.htm http://www.voicecrystal.com/korg.htm http://pro-rec.com/synthsounds.html?122,10#WS Also what appears to be a good site for Wavestation Homegrown Patches http://www.zycha.com//trading.html And some info on all the available offboard, computer-based editors (for a price;) http://hem.fyristorg.com/twilek/wseditors.htm Please, no body parts. I really would like a VCS3 though. Dave At 01:38 PM 2/19/01 +1030, you wrote: > > Hi Star Warriors > > My poor ole wavestation wants some new sound cards or PCM cards > > can anyone help me or direct me to a source - I will pay > > or even sell my body parts if necessary ((hee hee)) > > Somebody hep meh please > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mordru at FLITE.NET Mon Feb 19 16:08:43 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:08:43 -0500 Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010219200155.026d81d0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenche n.de> Message-ID: At 08:09 PM 2/19/01 +0100, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: >Hi, > >>what's this movie about then? Damnation Alley I mean. > >The movie's based upon a novel by Roger Zelazny. In short, it's about the >adventures of some guys in a post-nuclear-war world. They have to travel >from California to Boston and encounter a lot of strange things (e.g. giant >mutated spiders) during their journey. The novel, instead, has one character, an outlaw biker who takes the job because he has no choice (a couple others try to set out with them but he ditches them early on). Part of the novel was that it took someone like Tanner to do this job, which was completely lost by replacing him with some rather decent, upstanding community-minded individuals. ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Feb 19 17:13:36 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:13:36 -0000 Subject: HW: Mornington Crescent Message-ID: Regents Street. Your move. From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Mon Feb 19 17:27:55 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:27:55 -0000 Subject: HW: Mornington Crescent Message-ID: I'd like to point out that Mornington Crescent was *originally* called Finchley Central and was invented years before it became popular on Radio 4. It really annoys when people play MC rather than FC and don't give the original author any credit - I just wish I could remember his name too. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:13 PM Subject: HW: Mornington Crescent > Regents Street. > > Your move. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Feb 19 18:14:57 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:14:57 -0000 Subject: off Magma Message-ID: Magma fans with a sense of humour who know who Steve Davis is might get a chuckle from the new intro to my web site at: http://www.andygee.dial.pipex.com Andy Garibaldi. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: In a message dated 2/19/01 6:26:41 PM US Eastern Standard Time, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes: > which? and where have they appeared? thanks > Godzilla & We Gotta Get Out of This Place--June 1st, 1978, New Castle City Hall, New Castle, England Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Feb 19 19:01:19 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:01:19 -0000 Subject: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i remember that the british SF comic 2000AD did a really cool version of the story damnation alley called "the cursed earth" with judge dread. Check it out, i think you can still get the series on graphic novel. Btw Judge dread was accompanied by a biker throught the story called spike harvey rotten. colm icq 62753543 -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Layla Thompson Sent: 19 February 2001 18:35 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight what's this movie about then? Damnation Alley I mean. I'm presuming it has nothing to do with Hawkwind...... Who IS in it? >>> Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET 02/19/01 06:22pm >>> > Well, I never read the book, and the movie isn't exactly Citizen > Kane, but remember, it does feature Warren Oates and Peter Fonda > in the same flick, so perhaps we should be preapared to cut it a > little slack... > > theo I haven't seen Damnation Alley, but I know Warren Oates and Peter Fonda are not in it. Warren Oates is my favorite actor. I believe you might be thinking of Race With The Devil, Oates, Fonda, Loretta Switt, (where they see a satanic cult sacrifice somebody and spend the rest of the movie running away in a motor home). From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Feb 19 19:07:25 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:07:25 +0000 Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010219160843.017f0760@flite.net> Message-ID: In message <3.0.6.32.20010219160843.017f0760 at flite.net>, Andrew Apold writes >Part of the novel was that it took someone like >Tanner to do this job, which was completely lost by replacing him with >some rather decent, upstanding community-minded individuals. Wasn't there a 70s tennis player called Roscoe Tanner? I assume that's a complete coincidence, or had he actually changed his name inspired by the book? Seems pretty unlikely but you never know... -- Nick Medford From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Feb 19 19:22:38 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:22:38 -0500 Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! In-Reply-To: <8e.11592390.27c3093b@aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Joe Loehr wrote: => Godzilla & We Gotta Get Out of This Place--June 1st, 1978, New Castle City => Hall, New Castle, England That should be "Newcastle," not "New Castle" (it's spelled incorrectly in the booklet). Cheers, Paul "Geordie git" Mather. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Mon Feb 19 19:35:00 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:35:00 +0000 Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Joe Loehr wrote: > >=> Godzilla & We Gotta Get Out of This Place--June 1st, 1978, New Castle City >=> Hall, New Castle, England > >That should be "Newcastle," not "New Castle" (it's spelled incorrectly >in the booklet). Count it as revenge for the BBC pronouncing "Maryland" as ... er, as it's spelled! :) Cheers, Carl ObCD: Gjallarhorn, _Sjofn_. -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Feb 19 19:56:05 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:56:05 +0000 Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: <6E0RfAA9Ubk6EwGe@hermit0.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <6E0RfAA9Ubk6EwGe at hermit0.demon.co.uk>, Nick Medford writes >In message <3.0.6.32.20010219160843.017f0760 at flite.net>, Andrew Apold > writes >>Part of the novel was that it took someone like >>Tanner to do this job, which was completely lost by replacing him with >>some rather decent, upstanding community-minded individuals. > >Wasn't there a 70s tennis player called Roscoe Tanner? I assume that's a >complete coincidence, or had he actually changed his name inspired by the >book? Seems pretty unlikely but you never know... It's been a while since I've read the book, but I don't remember him (The character, not the tennis player) ever being called Roscoe - his name was Hell Tanner. -- David Blair From rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM Mon Feb 19 20:10:01 2001 From: rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM (RPManny) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:10:01 -0500 Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Jackson" To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 1:13 PM Subject: Re: BOC: Re Masters!! > On 19 Feb 2001, at 19:13, Tim Hall wrote: > > > Ted Jackson wrote: > > > > >What do you think the chances are for a few new live tunes? That > > >would follow the pattern Sony has pursued with other bands getting > > >the re-master treatment... > > > > I'd love to hear the complete set for Some Enchanted Evening. > > > Was that all from one show? I don't have it with me, but I was under > the impression that it was pieced together from various concerts... > > theo I was at the Atlanta show and absent from the album are: ME262, This Ain't the Summer of Love (5 guitars), Stairway to the Stars and Born to be Wild (also, Harvester of Eyes may have been on the list, I don't recall though). I'm certain that there were several more tunes, but these were the ones that jumped out at me. I had hoped to hear I love the Night and Golden Age of Leather, but those tunes didn't make, although I understand that they were in the rotation. Best regards, Richard From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Feb 19 20:15:18 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:15:18 +0000 Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Tigger writes >It's been a while since I've read the book, but I don't remember him >(The character, not the tennis player) ever being called Roscoe - his >name was Hell Tanner. Ah... OK. I'm sure someone said it was Roscoe earlier in this thread. If not, then there's no coincidence to explain! Haven't read the book, or anything else by Zelazny: what's a good one to start with? -- Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Feb 19 20:26:05 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:26:05 +0000 Subject: Spacebrock?..Hawkwind? In-Reply-To: <000f01c09198$46b69040$40b73bcb@cynthiaf> Message-ID: In message <000f01c09198$46b69040$40b73bcb at cynthiaf>, Bill & Cynthia writes > > >How many new titles on the Spacebrock album? I don't know what songs are on >it yet and I'm a little curious. Can someone list them for me? Thanks in >advance :-) Life Form Assassination (aka Some People Never Die) Dreamers Earth Breath You Burn Me Up The Right Way SexDreams To Be Or Not Kauai Earth Calling The Starkness Of The Capsule Behind The Face Space Brock Space Pilots First Landing (On Medusa) The Journey Do You Want This Body -- Nick Medford From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Feb 19 20:27:37 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:27:37 -0600 Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: <4zShyJAmUck6Ew0I@hermit0.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Nick Medford wrote: :Subject: Re: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight : :In message , Tigger : writes :>It's been a while since I've read the book, but I don't remember him :>(The character, not the tennis player) ever being called Roscoe - his :>name was Hell Tanner. : :Ah... OK. I'm sure someone said it was Roscoe earlier in this thread. If not, :then there's no coincidence to explain! Haven't read the book, or anything :else by Zelazny: what's a good one to start with? Lord of Light (just uniformly good, imho) (or if you want more fluffy reading, try the Amber Chronicles (beginning with Nine Princes in Amber)). any of a whole bunch of short stories.... A Night in the Lonesome October (a homage to pulp and horror writers) just to start ;-) Arin (who owns all of them, so might not be too biased ;-) ) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From mordru at FLITE.NET Mon Feb 19 21:15:41 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:15:41 -0500 Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 12:56 AM 2/20/01 +0000, Tigger wrote: >In article <6E0RfAA9Ubk6EwGe at hermit0.demon.co.uk>, Nick Medford > writes >>In message <3.0.6.32.20010219160843.017f0760 at flite.net>, Andrew Apold >> writes >>>Part of the novel was that it took someone like >>>Tanner to do this job, which was completely lost by replacing him with >>>some rather decent, upstanding community-minded individuals. >> >>Wasn't there a 70s tennis player called Roscoe Tanner? I assume that's a >>complete coincidence, or had he actually changed his name inspired by the >>book? Seems pretty unlikely but you never know... > >It's been a while since I've read the book, but I don't remember him >(The character, not the tennis player) ever being called Roscoe - his >name was Hell Tanner. it was a mess-up on my part. I said Roscoe as a slip, I was subconsciously thinking of the Tennis Player, obviously. ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Mon Feb 19 21:33:48 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:33:48 -0500 Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: <4zShyJAmUck6Ew0I@hermit0.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: At 01:15 AM 2/20/01 +0000, Nick Medford wrote: >In message , Tigger > writes >>It's been a while since I've read the book, but I don't remember him >>(The character, not the tennis player) ever being called Roscoe - his >>name was Hell Tanner. > >Ah... OK. I'm sure someone said it was Roscoe earlier in this thread. If not, >then there's no coincidence to explain! Haven't read the book, or anything >else by Zelazny: what's a good one to start with? heh. It depends. You got me started... If you read only one book, it must be "Lord of Light". For starters, it also has a Hawkwind connection. It is also one of the finest works, of any genre, that I have ever read. A working knowledge of hinduism and buddhism is useful but not essential. If you think you might want to read several and get a full effect, it is in some ways better to start with his short stories (in particular: Doors of His Face, Rose for Ecclesiastes, Graveyard Heart, a couple others of that time period) and then take his early novels in order, "This Immortal" (vt "And Call Me Conrad") followed by "The Dream Master" (vt "He Who Shapes") and then go to "Lord of Light". Because Lord of Light is so good it gets expectations so high it's hard for anything else to live up to it after that. Something which plagued Zelazny throughout the rest of his career. Aside from all that are his fantasy "Amber" novels, starting with "Nine Princes in Amber" and going on for another nine books (two groups of 5). All are classic works of fantasy, amongst the most loved in the field. But again, I cannot iterate it enough, Zelazny's SF was the ultimate. It is hard for me to be objective at all about Lord of Light. Others of note, all good but not quite up there with the others are: Doorways in the Sand Roadmarks Frost and Fire (short story col, esp "24 views of Mt Fuji, by Hokusai") Creatures of Light and Darkness Jack of Shadows (another Hawkwind tie) Damnation Alley Eye of Cat Isle of the Dead I'm probably omitting a bunch of worthy titles... Some of his other stuff, especially his non-Amber fantasies (Dilvish the Damned, the Changeling, etc) are okay, but nothing spectacular. I'm currently reading "Donnerjack", which was co-written by Jane Liskold and published after Zelazny's death. I'm withholding judgement on that one until I'm done. ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 19 22:18:20 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:48:20 +1030 Subject: I need some new sounds - hep meh Message-ID: ggeeeerrrrrooovyyy Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: dhuggins To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:57 AM Subject: Re: I need some new sounds - hep meh Captain, Sorry about not noticing you slipping thru the gates. I found a few locations that might have what you are looking for: http://www.masterbits.de/rom_e.htm http://www.voicecrystal.com/korg.htm http://pro-rec.com/synthsounds.html?122,10#WS Also what appears to be a good site for Wavestation Homegrown Patches http://www.zycha.com//trading.html And some info on all the available offboard, computer-based editors (for a price;) http://hem.fyristorg.com/twilek/wseditors.htm Please, no body parts. I really would like a VCS3 though. Dave At 01:38 PM 2/19/01 +1030, you wrote: Hi Star Warriors My poor ole wavestation wants some new sound cards or PCM cards can anyone help me or direct me to a source - I will pay or even sell my body parts if necessary ((hee hee)) Somebody hep meh please -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Feb 20 00:50:15 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:50:15 -0500 Subject: OFF: Listening, Slice of the R&R Life, Elevator (was Re: H/W remix & Thrilling Adventures.) In-Reply-To: ; from jjarrett@CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK on Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 01:10:17AM +0000 Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 01:10:17AM +0000, Jon Jarrett wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > > > It's interesting this - how people listen to music. I jhave long since said > > that musicians have completely different ears from the average listener and > > tend to listen to hear music in a completely different way from most of us. Literally true. I read once that for most of us, listening is more a right-brain activity, but for musicians, it's more left-brain. Having just sat with most of the Mean Red Spiders, listening to them deconstructing that awful old Bill Shatner record (MacArthur Park, Lucy in the Sky, "To be or not to be", something from Henry V, etc. -- all of it grossly overacted, with a mostly cheeeezy musical accompaniment) I'm inclined to believe it. We were all rolling on the floor, but they were constantly picking bits out and examining them, where I was just hearing the gestalt. We *should* have been in St. Catharines, setting up for a gig (me to help Steve Lindsey do visuals as part of our General Chaos thing). But the van broke down just out of Toronto. Seven people standing by the side of the post-rush-hour freeway with a van's worth of gear piled on the grass, waiting for the tow-truck and then for a ride back into town. Too bad nobody had a camera; it'd have made a great CD cover! So Steve's going it alone fx-wise, for the headline act, Elevator -- who I can highly recommend, btw. I haven't heard their recorded stuff, but live, they rock! The set list they gave us before Friday's show described the songs as mostly "heavy", "dreamy", or "normal" -- with a "chaotic" or two thrown in for good measure. NP: Pat Benatar, "In the Heat of the Night" 1. So shoot me 2. I've always been a sucker for Mike Chapman's production 3. Elevator'd be on, but that'd mean excavating my turntable from under a pile of CDs -- too much like work at this time of night... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: Is there anything in astrology? Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm naturally skeptical. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Feb 20 01:02:43 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:02:43 -0500 Subject: Out of the Shad^H^H^H^HWoodwork In-Reply-To: <200102191208.MAA11463@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from fofp@HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK on Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 12:08:00PM +0000 Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 12:08:00PM +0000, M Holmes wrote: > [_Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang_] was such a sweet movie and I liked the way it turned into a > nightmare after all the kids escaped. I mostly hated it for how far it departed from one of my favourite books at that age. But then, it suffered no worse a fate than Ian Fleming's other books. Turns out the movie was produced by one Albert R. Broccoli; that explains a lot of things :-/ -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Interviewer: You've been looking at the stars all your life: Is there anything in astrology? Arthur C. Clarke: It's utter nonsense. But I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm naturally skeptical. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 20 01:19:32 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:19:32 +0800 Subject: Spacebrock?..Hawkwind? Message-ID: I said: > >How many new titles on the Spacebrock album? I don't know what songs are on > >it yet and I'm a little curious. Can someone list them for me? Thanks in > >advance :-) Nick Medford answered: > Life Form > Assassination (aka Some People Never Die) > Dreamers > Earth Breath > You Burn Me Up > The Right Way > SexDreams > To Be Or Not > Kauai > Earth Calling > The Starkness Of The Capsule > Behind The Face > Space Brock > Space Pilots > First Landing (On Medusa) > The Journey > Do You Want This Body > -- > Nick Medford Thanks Nick Song titles - Lifeform, Assassination and Earth Calling - I have only in vinyl. There are plenty of original tracks on Spacebrock so I shall be adding it to my collection :-) I downloaded Space Brock (the song) off Napster and liked it. Cheers Bill From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 20 02:58:19 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:28:19 +1030 Subject: Spacebrock?..Hawkwind? Message-ID: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/hawkwind_album_page_11.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Spacebrock?..Hawkwind? > I said: > > >How many new titles on the Spacebrock album? I don't know what songs are > on > > >it yet and I'm a little curious. Can someone list them for me? Thanks in > > >advance :-) > > Nick Medford answered: > > > Life Form > > Assassination (aka Some People Never Die) > > Dreamers > > Earth Breath > > You Burn Me Up > > The Right Way > > SexDreams > > To Be Or Not > > Kauai > > Earth Calling > > The Starkness Of The Capsule > > Behind The Face > > Space Brock > > Space Pilots > > First Landing (On Medusa) > > The Journey > > Do You Want This Body > > -- > > Nick Medford > > Thanks Nick > Song titles - Lifeform, Assassination and Earth Calling - I have only in > vinyl. There are plenty of original tracks on Spacebrock so I shall be > adding it to my collection :-) > I downloaded Space Brock (the song) off Napster and liked it. > > Cheers > Bill > From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Tue Feb 20 03:42:02 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:42:02 -0000 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: For our non-UK cousins, perhaps I should explain that the strange Mornington Crescent discussion concerns a UK parlour game in which the participants, without betraying any outward sign of humour, exchange intricate and highly technical bullshit. It's a game I used to play in my spare time but now I work for a research organisation, we charge a hefty hourly rate for it and call it consultancy. Mark From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Feb 20 04:20:13 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 04:20:13 -0500 Subject: OFF: Uriah Heep Message-ID: I take it everyone knows that the Heep are touring the UK next month with Nazareth and Stray? I'm off to Glasgow for that one:-) Uriah Heep / Nazareth / Stray March 14 Folkestone Lees Cliff Hall UK March 15 Portsmouth Pyramid Centre UK March 16 Bristol Uni UK March 17 Manchester Uni UK March 19 Wolverhampton Wulfrun Hall UK March 20 Leeds Met Uni UK March 21 Glasgow Garage UK March 23 London Astoria UK Stuart http://www.the-rocker.co.uk Ted Jackson wrote: >What do you think the chances are for a few new live tunes? That >would follow the pattern Sony has pursued with other bands getting >the re-master treatment... I'd love to hear the complete set for Some Enchanted Evening. Are there any hidden gems in unreleased songs? The recent series of Uriah Heep remasters included some outtake songs which were far better than much of the stuff that made it on to the actual albums. -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Feb 20 05:54:16 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:54:16 -0000 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <001301c09b18$ff24dc20$fb38fa8a@resnet.cranfield.ac.uk> Message-ID: Tish and Peshwari Naan. Rev. Bernard Henderson (1940 - 1983) put forward that view at the 1983 World Championships, and look what happened to him! Cheers, Rich. > > For our non-UK cousins, perhaps I should explain that the strange > Mornington > Crescent discussion concerns a UK parlour game in which the participants, > without betraying any outward sign of humour, exchange intricate > and highly > technical bullshit. > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Tue Feb 20 06:11:39 2001 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:11:39 +0000 Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Robert C. Mayo wrote: > > IIRC, two songs were recorded on the British leg of the tour - what's > > the chance of ever seeing them over here again? And talking of 'Some Enchanted Evening', I went to one UK gig, many years ago, when they played Cream's "I feel free" - great performance, I never saw Cream play it live. Was this song ever recorded / released? - Mike Godwin PS I just received a track listing from Rhino for the Stalk Forrest CD. Has anyone posted it? If not, I am happy to oblige. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 20 06:22:17 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:22:17 GMT Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: Dan Witt's message of Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:22:31 -0600 Message-ID: Dan Witt writes: > I haven't seen Damnation Alley, but I know Warren Oates and Peter Fonda are > not in it. Warren Oates is my favorite actor. I believe you might be > thinking of Race With The Devil, Oates, Fonda, Loretta Switt, (where they > see a satanic cult sacrifice somebody and spend the rest of the movie > running away in a motor home). I remember seeing that as a kid. Neat ending. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 20 06:24:44 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:24:44 GMT Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: Jill Strobridge's message of Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:47:54 -0000 Message-ID: Jill Strobridge writes: > > It's not until the final move of our cunning game of Obscure > > Hawkwind Links that all will be revealed. I'm sure Jon Jarret will > > be happy to administer the coup de grace... > Does it involve the Ladbroke Grove over and underpass - or am I > thinking of some other game? Of course Jerry Cornelius won the Mornington Crescent world Championship in 2048 with a classic move involving the Transatlantic Tunnel Link. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 20 06:26:16 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:26:16 GMT Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: Denis Regenbrecht's message of Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:09:31 +0100 Message-ID: Denis Regenbrecht writes: > Hi, > > >what's this movie about then? Damnation Alley I mean. > > The movie's based upon a novel by Roger Zelazny. In short, it's about the > adventures of some guys in a post-nuclear-war world. They have to travel > from California to Boston and encounter a lot of strange things (e.g. giant > mutated spiders) during their journey. Escape From New York was essentially the movie that Damnation Alley should have been if it were true to the book. Kurt Russell would have made a pretty good Hell Tanner too. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 20 06:40:03 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:40:03 GMT Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:27:37 -0600 Message-ID: Arin Komins writes: > :>It's been a while since I've read the book, but I don't remember him > :>(The character, not the tennis player) ever being called Roscoe - his > :>name was Hell Tanner. > : > :Ah... OK. I'm sure someone said it was Roscoe earlier in this thread. If not, > :then there's no coincidence to explain! Haven't read the book, or anything > :else by Zelazny: what's a good one to start with? > > Lord of Light (just uniformly good, imho) > > (or if you want more fluffy reading, try the Amber Chronicles (beginning > with Nine Princes in Amber)). The Amber stories are great. It's a kind of fantasy I Claudius but with a magic system that is reasonably limited. The trick here is to ensure that you read the first Amber series and not the second one, which introduces all sorts of new magic systems and buggers up the best feature of the first stories. They are: Nine Princes in Amber The Guns of Avalon Sign of the Unicorn The Hand of Oberon The Courts of Chaos The basic plot is that a guy wakes up in hospital with no memory. He slowly realises that he's one of Nine Princes from the central probability world called "Amber" by its denizens. The King is posted missing and the Princes are tooling up to fight for the throne. They can cross probability worlds by mentally manipulating scenery to match where they're going. Earth just happens to be a favourite of a few of them. The magic system is based primarily on a tarot deck featuring the princes, princesses and a few key sites in Amber. These facilitate telepathic communication and teleportation. The rest of it is based around royal politics and raising armies from some local probability worlds in order to make a play for the throne. It's swords and sorcery because gunpowder doesn't explode in Amber. It's not great writing but the main characters are reasonably well drawn for SF and the plotlines are pretty good. It'd make for a much better film series than almost all of the fantasy that has been filmed. FoFP From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Feb 20 06:41:23 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:41:23 -0000 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <200102201124.LAA07037@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: As Moorcock documented in "The Empress Of London and The Dollis Hill Holding Loop". Cheers, R. > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: 20 February 2001 11:25 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent > > > Jill Strobridge writes: > > > > It's not until the final move of our cunning game of Obscure > > > Hawkwind Links that all will be revealed. I'm sure Jon Jarret will > > > be happy to administer the coup de grace... > > > Does it involve the Ladbroke Grove over and underpass - or am I > > thinking of some other game? > > Of course Jerry Cornelius won the Mornington Crescent world Championship > in 2048 with a classic move involving the Transatlantic Tunnel Link. > > FoFP _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 20 06:49:26 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:49:26 GMT Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight In-Reply-To: Andrew Apold's message of Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:33:48 -0500 Message-ID: Andrew Apold writes: On Zelazny... > If you read only one book, it must be "Lord of Light". For starters, > it also has a Hawkwind connection. It is also one of the finest > works, of any genre, that I have ever read. A working knowledge of > hinduism and buddhism is useful but not essential. > If you think you might want to read several and get a full effect, it > is in some ways better to start with his short stories (in particular: > Doors of His Face, Rose for Ecclesiastes, Graveyard Heart, a couple > others of that time period) and then take his early novels in order, > "This Immortal" (vt "And Call Me Conrad") followed by "The Dream > Master" (vt "He Who Shapes") and then go to "Lord of Light". Because > Lord of Light is so good it gets expectations so high it's hard for > anything else to live up to it after that. Something which plagued > Zelazny throughout the rest of his career. > Aside from all that are his fantasy "Amber" novels, starting with > "Nine Princes in Amber" and going on for another nine books (two > groups of 5). All are classic works of fantasy, amongst the most > loved in the field. > But again, I cannot iterate it enough, Zelazny's SF was the ultimate. > It is hard for me to be objective at all about Lord of Light. > Others of note, all good but not quite up there with the others are: > Doorways in the Sand Roadmarks Frost and Fire (short story col, esp > "24 views of Mt Fuji, by Hokusai") Creatures of Light and Darkness > Jack of Shadows (another Hawkwind tie) Damnation Alley Eye of Cat Isle > of the Dead > I'm probably omitting a bunch of worthy titles... read "This Immortal" before Isle of the Dead IIRC because it introduces the Francis Sandow character (surely the most likeable god in SF?). The other great novel that's missing here is "Today We Choose Faces" which is a very clever story based on a guy who has been using tech over the years to erase parts of his identity. A crisis means that he has to start restoring parts from backup until he has the knowledge to solve it... I'd put more emphasis on his short stories too. On a good day he's up there with Arthur C. Clarke, A.E.Van Vogt and John Wyndham (most of whose shorts went under John Benyon and another name that escapes me for the moment). Ah, the pleasures of throwing over the school syllabus and reading shorts by those authors to use them for my exams. My teacher truly didn't understand, but fortunately her prediction of failure didn't pan out. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 20 06:52:59 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:52:59 GMT Subject: Out of the Shad^H^H^H^HWoodwork In-Reply-To: Eric Siegerman's message of Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:02:43 -0500 Message-ID: Eric Siegerman writes: > On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 12:08:00PM +0000, M Holmes wrote: > > [_Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang_] was such a sweet movie and I liked the > > way it turned into a nightmare after all the kids escaped. > I mostly hated it for how far it departed from one of my favourite > books at that age. But then, it suffered no worse a fate than Ian > Fleming's other books. Turns out the movie was produced by one Albert > R. Broccoli; that explains a lot of things :-/ Yeah, I'll always wonder what would have happened if they'd accepted Patrick McGoohan's stipulation of no guns and no women for the James Bond series and he'd taken the role. We'd probably have had a stylish cross between Smiley's People and Danger Man and Sean Connery would probably be delivering my milk. FoFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 20 06:38:28 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:38:28 EDT Subject: BOC: Re Masters!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 20 Feb 2001, at 11:11, Michael R Godwin wrote: > And talking of 'Some Enchanted Evening', I went to one UK gig, many > years ago, when they played Cream's "I feel free" - great performance, > I never saw Cream play it live. Was this song ever recorded / > released? > I saw them perform I Feel Free once as well. They did a GREAT version of it. If only that one could see light of day amidst the reissued stuff... theo From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Feb 20 08:50:34 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:50:34 +0000 Subject: HW: New release or re-release? Message-ID: Got a mail from cdzone last night informing me of a new release 'Silver Machine - Live!' The website only says it's a Dutch import, released 19th Feb, and costs ?2.43. Given the price, I think it's probably another of those masters of the universe/lord of light/silver machine/ best and the rest of type compilation. Anyone know what's on it or if it's worth getting? -- David Blair From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Tue Feb 20 11:33:31 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:33:31 +0000 Subject: mr cd Berwick street Message-ID: bedroom trancer wrote: > if anyone's interested I popped into mr cd on Berwick street, off > oxford street London today, looking for more bargains and downstairs > under the H section I saw the 2 cd atomhenge 76 cd for 5 pounds. I > didn't buy it as I already have it. Don't know if it will still be > there on Monday when it opens again. Check the actual CD's though. I bought a 'full price' copy of this from Mr CD a couple of weeks ago. The first two tracks on CD2 were unplayable and closer inspection revealed a blemish on the disk's surface under the plastic coating. Needless to say I took it back and the guy behind the counter was happy to exchange it for another copy - unfortunately this also had the same mark on CD2 and had the same playback problem. Could there be a dodgy batch lurking out there? Keef From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Feb 20 11:58:40 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:58:40 +0000 Subject: OFF: magma question/Brockspace demo In-Reply-To: <000801c099f5$f298a0a0$bb209dc3@merlinas> Message-ID: On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, David Bottomley wrote: > BTW, has anyone heard back from Voiceprint re. the free CD yet? How do > people feel about this offer? What I want to know is, what were they > originally planning on offering as the free CD (assuming that they hadn't > planned on mis-pressing Spacebrock!)? I have to admit, with my usual less-than-charitable impression of Voiceprint, I assumed they'd no idea what the bonus CD would be and have leapt at the mispressing as an answer to a question about to become tricky. I find it hard to believe they could be sitting on anything even remotely saleable and not selling it. Yours, Jon ObTape: Deep Purple - _In Rock_ -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Feb 20 12:21:58 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:21:58 -0600 Subject: HW: New release or re-release? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Got a mail from cdzone last night informing me of a new release 'Silver >Machine - Live!' The website only says it's a Dutch import, released >19th Feb, and costs ?2.43. > >Given the price, I think it's probably another of those masters of the >universe/lord of light/silver machine/ best and the rest of type >compilation. Anyone know what's on it or if it's worth getting? >-- >David Blair Thanks for this info....it is mandatory in Dallas...... Like BASEBALL cards....only PLAYABLE!!!!!! m From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 20 12:24:42 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:24:42 GMT Subject: HW: New release or re-release? In-Reply-To: Mike Coleman's message of Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:21:58 -0600 Message-ID: Mike Coleman writes: > Like BASEBALL cards....only PLAYABLE!!!!!! Maybe there should be some gum with every Hawkwind CD. FoFP From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Feb 20 12:28:51 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:28:51 +0000 Subject: HW: New release or re-release? Message-ID: yeah, good idea. Might make some 13 year old buy one, just for the gum, and then fall in Love with Hawkwind instead of S Club 7!!!! You never know. >>> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK 02/20/01 05:24pm >>> Mike Coleman writes: > Like BASEBALL cards....only PLAYABLE!!!!!! Maybe there should be some gum with every Hawkwind CD. FoFP From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 20 12:42:03 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:42:03 -0500 Subject: OFF: All Your Base Message-ID: On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:12:24 -0500, Andrew Apold wrote: >Anyone know what group did this? It came up in a gaming >forum I was in recently... Well, at the end of the 'film' there are credits- music: 'Attack of the Gabber Robots' by The Laziest Men On Mars. Then loads of other credits, presumably to the software artists. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Feb 20 13:25:22 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:25:22 -0600 Subject: HW: New release and FoFP In-Reply-To: <200102201724.RAA25066@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >Mike Coleman writes: > >> Like BASEBALL cards....only PLAYABLE!!!!!! > >Maybe there should be some gum with every Hawkwind CD. > >FoFP Oh that's fabulous, since flattened hashish sticks would never make it..... and in response to your question yesterday......it's hangin "Straight Down The Middle", thanks....I'm real proud of my anti-drift locking docking.... have a great vacation , and please come visit me sometime....I hope you can let one silly "Texas Dude" into the private circle.....m From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Tue Feb 20 13:34:29 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:34:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Channel 4, Top Ten Progressive Rock Message-ID: Hi folks The following mail I received today from Nicole Dudley (Channel 4) Subject: New TX date for Top Ten Progressive Rock Hello, I thought I'd let everyone know that Channel 4 have now moved Top Ten Progressive Rock forward to Saturday March 3rd. Thank you everybody for taking part. Enjoy the show! Best wishes, Nicole From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 20 14:05:46 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:05:46 -0000 Subject: OFF: magma question/Brockspace demo Message-ID: Ho ho ho ho ho Couldn't possibly comment. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:58 PM Subject: Re: OFF: magma question/Brockspace demo > On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, David Bottomley wrote: > > > BTW, has anyone heard back from Voiceprint re. the free CD yet? How do > > people feel about this offer? What I want to know is, what were they > > originally planning on offering as the free CD (assuming that they hadn't > > planned on mis-pressing Spacebrock!)? > > I have to admit, with my usual less-than-charitable impression of > Voiceprint, I assumed they'd no idea what the bonus CD would be and have > leapt at the mispressing as an answer to a question about to become > tricky. I find it hard to believe they could be sitting on anything even > remotely saleable and not selling it. Yours, > Jon > > ObTape: Deep Purple - _In Rock_ > -- > | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | > | ======================================================================| > | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | > | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 20 14:09:34 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:09:34 -0000 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: Now that one I like....... By the way people, I was told today that this coming Saturday night Channel Four TV at 9pm is THE prog top ten programme that features Hawkwind so you know what you have to do for all our foreign cousins. I will be cowering behind my sofa hoping it is not too much of an embarassment. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jermy" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:42 AM Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent > For our non-UK cousins, perhaps I should explain that the strange Mornington > Crescent discussion concerns a UK parlour game in which the participants, > without betraying any outward sign of humour, exchange intricate and highly > technical bullshit. > > It's a game I used to play in my spare time but now I work for a research > organisation, we charge a hefty hourly rate for it and call it consultancy. > > Mark From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 20 14:19:20 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:19:20 -0000 Subject: HW: Channel 4, Top Ten Progressive Rock Message-ID: Odd - I was told today that it was billed in the TV guides as this Saturday - I shall now have to check this out as I do assume that Channel 4 have gotr it right and my source will be down in the dungeons from tomorrow on nothing but bread and water (or haggis as they call it up here). Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Pospiech" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 6:34 PM Subject: HW: Channel 4, Top Ten Progressive Rock > Hi folks > > The following mail I received today from Nicole Dudley (Channel 4) > > > > Subject: New TX date for Top Ten Progressive Rock > > Hello, > > I thought I'd let everyone know that Channel 4 have now moved Top Ten > Progressive Rock forward to Saturday March 3rd. > > Thank you everybody for taking part. Enjoy the show! > > Best wishes, > > Nicole From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Feb 20 14:15:32 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:15:32 -0000 Subject: HW: Channel 4, Top Ten Progressive Rock Message-ID: I can think of a better place to stuff that haggis. Tum-Tum-Toodle-Ooh. CB ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:19 PM Subject: Re: HW: Channel 4, Top Ten Progressive Rock > Odd - I was told today that it was billed in the TV guides as this > Saturday - I shall now have to check this out as I do assume that Channel 4 > have gotr it right and my source will be down in the dungeons from tomorrow > on nothing but bread and water (or haggis as they call it up here). > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernhard Pospiech" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 6:34 PM > Subject: HW: Channel 4, Top Ten Progressive Rock > > > > Hi folks > > > > The following mail I received today from Nicole Dudley (Channel 4) > > > > > > > > Subject: New TX date for Top Ten Progressive Rock > > > > Hello, > > > > I thought I'd let everyone know that Channel 4 have now moved Top Ten > > Progressive Rock forward to Saturday March 3rd. > > > > Thank you everybody for taking part. Enjoy the show! > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Nicole From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Feb 20 14:19:09 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:19:09 -0000 Subject: Virus Alert??? Message-ID: Can someone explain why I've received 5 messages containing the text 'Its All In the Mix' from participants of this group? Captain Bl at ck. From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Feb 20 14:39:04 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:39:04 -0000 Subject: HW: Channel 4, Top Ten Progressive Rock In-Reply-To: <00e201c09b72$074f7a00$181abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: No, this coming Saturday it's: --- TOP TEN Holiday Hits 22:10 24 February This week, comedian Roy Chubby Brown presents a celebration of sun, sea and debauchery with the best-selling holiday hit singles. The sun burnt countdown includes Black Lace's Agadoo, Los del Rio's Macarena, Sylvia's Y Viva Espana, The Birdie Song by the Tweets, and Whigfield's Saturday Night. --- at least according to Channel 4's web site... -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI > Sent: 20 February 2001 19:19 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Channel 4, Top Ten Progressive Rock > > > Odd - I was told today that it was billed in the TV guides as this > Saturday - I shall now have to check this out as I do assume that > Channel 4 > have gotr it right and my source will be down in the dungeons > from tomorrow > on nothing but bread and water (or haggis as they call it up here). > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernhard Pospiech" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 6:34 PM > Subject: HW: Channel 4, Top Ten Progressive Rock > > > > Hi folks > > > > The following mail I received today from Nicole Dudley (Channel 4) > > > > > > > > Subject: New TX date for Top Ten Progressive Rock > > > > Hello, > > > > I thought I'd let everyone know that Channel 4 have now moved Top Ten > > Progressive Rock forward to Saturday March 3rd. > > > > Thank you everybody for taking part. Enjoy the show! > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Nicole > > From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Tue Feb 20 15:34:14 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:34:14 EST Subject: HW: Mornington Crescent Message-ID: OK I give in...I know very little about mornington crescent,except for its radio origins,....Please someone post an address where I can find the rules . (PS I accidently deleted the original mail that started all this off..can someone please repost the original HW related address...Thanks) From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Feb 20 14:17:22 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:17:22 -0000 Subject: HW: Spacebrock - a few comments Message-ID: Hi, Well, after giving Spacebrock more than a few spins recently, I've got this to say about it .... HW have always thrived on ambiguity, chaos, obscurity and general vagueness but this release surely takes the biscuit. Is it really representative to call it a "Hawkwind" CD? To me it sounds it sounds more of a Dave solo offereing in the vein of Church & Pipe Dreams, despite the participation of Crum, Chadwick & Griffin plus a few unknowns (to me). As for the track listing, that's a minefield in itself. At a first glance you may say to yourself "Some People Never Die", oh no, not again! in which case you'd be right, it doesn't appear on the CD at all, other than on the rear sleeve listing. Similarly the first track "Life Form" is also absent. The final track "Do You Want This Body" is also missing, however Damage Of Life has been snuck in without any mention on the sleeve. Of the remaining tracks that are both on the sleeve and actually on the CD, you can choose your own title of at least 3 of the songs as the words in the booklet are listed under different titles to the rear. Take your pick between : To Be Or Not / To Be The Starkness Of The Capsule / Pressing You 1st Landing / The First Landing On Medusa Wonderfully confusing, intentional or just a mass cock-up? Despite all these comments on what is largely unimportant anyway, I actually quite like the CD. Don't expect a HW CD but think of a cross of Church, Agents & Pipe Dreams (I've purposely omitted Earthed). Who is providing the female voice for Dreamers, The Right Way & Sex Dreams etc? References to other earlier HW/DB songs........ Earth Calling includes the "child choir" voices found on one of the first 2 tracks on IITBOTFTBD or was it just on the tour that I remember them? And I swear the final few seconds of the song consists of live sounds from early 70s. Could be the end of Earth Calling on Ritual (but maybe I'm being influenced by the song title). Behind The Face - what the heck's all that about? - Never thought I'd hear "quack, quack" in a HW song! First Landing sounds like a cross between Holgar Czukay and Daevid Allen. The final song "The Journey" is a beautiful piece but sadly too short. Oh yeah, forgot to mention, the "Ladies & Gentlemen" announcement (before the throw-up) from Pipe (or is it on White Zone?) also gets an airing somewhere on the CD. So that's it, quite a bizarre CD all in all ! Why did I feel the need to mention all this? Cheers, Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Feb 20 15:57:26 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:57:26 -0000 Subject: HW: Odd HW tracks Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone have a listing of those odd HW tracks that have cropped up on non-HW CDs or just as bonus tracks : I'm thinking of stuff like: Space Sex (Alien vinyl?) Theta Orinis (have I imagined this one) Bonus tracks on California Brainstorm The Pink Floyd Encyclopedia thingy Isn't there a live Love In Space on Ambient Anarchists? I'm sure there's many others which is why I'm after some sort of pre-compiled list. Failing this, where can I locate the latest online Codex? Cheers, Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Feb 20 16:01:32 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:01:32 -0600 Subject: JD/SPACEBROCK In-Reply-To: <002601c09b7e$22667b20$3c44883e@jezd> Message-ID: dear JD! please consider letting me have Andy G send you a properly pressed copy for your mispressed copy,,, how about if I throw in another CD of your choice,,, it'll go on a CC, so no delay in reaching you.. sorry all these posts people.....maybe I'll get a friend here soon....or a job...did I say job...slap me,,,mc From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Feb 20 16:10:03 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:10:03 -0600 Subject: HW: JD/SPACEBROCK Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:01:32 -0600 >To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >From: deltawave at metronet.com >Subject: Re:JD/SPACEBROCK >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > > dear JD! > > > please consider letting me have Andy G send you a properly pressed copy >for your mispressed copy,,, > >how about if I throw in another CD of your choice,,, > >it'll go on a CC, so no delay in reaching you.. > > >sorry all these posts people.....maybe I'll get a friend here soon....or a >job...did I say job...slap me,,,mc > > > > sorry if this went twice From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Feb 20 16:20:32 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:20:32 -0600 Subject: HW:OFF- MIKE FoFP Message-ID: Mike ....get off my Greek CD, or I'm waiting for you just outside the PUB,,,,, PS-I run real fast after I hit hard.... save your dough for the drinks and your head for your life,,,, m From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Feb 20 16:35:41 2001 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (blueskin69) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:35:41 +0000 Subject: HW: Spacebrock - a few comments Message-ID: Hi Jez There are two diffrent versions of spacebrock out there the one you have is the same one that they were selling at the Brixton gig and then there is the one with all tracks listed are on the CD i think that the ones that were pressed wrong are now a rarity dont take all of this as gospel but one of my friends has the same as you and another has the full version Cheers. Gordon. J D wrote: > Hi,Well, after giving Spacebrock more than a few spins recently, I've > got this to say about it .... HW have always thrived on ambiguity, > chaos, obscurity and general vagueness but this release surely takes > the biscuit.Is it really representative to call it a "Hawkwind" CD?To > me it sounds it sounds more of a Dave solo offereing in the vein of > Church & Pipe Dreams, despite the participation of Crum, Chadwick & > Griffin plus a few unknowns (to me).As for the track listing, that's a > minefield in itself.At a first glance you may say to yourself "Some > People Never Die", oh no, not again! in which case you'd be right, it > doesn't appear on the CD at all, other than on the rear sleeve > listing.Similarly the first track "Life Form" is also absent.The final > track "Do You Want This Body" is also missing, however Damage Of Life > has been snuck in without any mention on the sleeve.Of the remaining > tracks that are both on the sleeve and actually on the CD, you can > choose your own title of at least 3 of the songs as the words in the > booklet are listed under different titles to the rear.Take your pick > between :To Be Or Not / To BeThe Starkness Of The Capsule / Pressing > You1st Landing / The First Landing On MedusaWonderfully confusing, > intentional or just a mass cock-up?Despite all these comments on what > is largely unimportant anyway, I actually quite like the CD.Don't > expect a HW CD but think of a cross of Church, Agents & Pipe Dreams > (I've purposely omitted Earthed).Who is providing the female voice for > Dreamers, The Right Way & Sex Dreams etc?References to other earlier > HW/DB songs........Earth Calling includes the "child choir" voices > found on one of the first 2 tracks on IITBOTFTBD or was it just on the > tour that I remember them? And I swear the final few seconds of the > song consists of live sounds from early 70s.Could be the end of Earth > Calling on Ritual (but maybe I'm being influenced by the song > title).Behind The Face - what the heck's all that about? - Never > thought I'd hear "quack, quack" in a HW song!First Landing sounds like > a cross between Holgar Czukay and Daevid Allen.The final song "The > Journey" is a beautiful piece but sadly too short.Oh yeah, forgot to > mention, the "Ladies & Gentlemen" announcement (before the throw-up) > from Pipe (or is it on White Zone?) also gets an airing somewhere on > the CD.So that's it, quite a bizarre CD all in all !Why did I feel the > need to mention all this?Cheers,Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Feb 20 17:07:24 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:07:24 -0500 Subject: Out of the Shad^H^H^H^HWoodwork In-Reply-To: <200102201152.LAA24155@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from fofp@HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK on Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 11:52:59AM +0000 Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 11:52:59AM +0000, M Holmes wrote: > Yeah, I'll always wonder what would have happened if they'd accepted > Patrick McGoohan's stipulation of no guns and no women for the James > Bond series and he'd taken the role. Well, that wouldn't have been exactly true to Fleming either... > We'd probably have had a stylish > cross between Smiley's People and Danger Man and Sean Connery would > probably be delivering my milk. Which would have been a shame -- he's done some good work since (eg. Robin and Marian). -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Feb 20 17:27:03 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:27:03 -0600 Subject: HW: that three day festival thing Message-ID: Hey folks, Is that three day festival thing sometime this summer still a possible go? ...and is there a website for the Canterbury Festival? Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Tue Feb 20 18:01:43 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:01:43 +0000 Subject: ADMIN: Scott Heller's BOC-L troubles Message-ID: Is Ben Cohen out there? Scott Heller asked me to forward this, since he's having trouble with his subscriptions .... >"SHLL (Scott Heller)" wrote: >> >> Hej, >> >> Can you help me out? I am trying to >> reach Ben Cohen the admin for the Boc-l to help me out. They changed our >> email at work and now I am locked out from posting, unsubscribing anything. >> The listserv won'?t recognize me. The email address I have for ben from >> subscribing does not work. I am stuck.. You can post this to the list if you >> have to and hopefully he will contact me. >> >> I still get all the digests but i am >> completely locked out from posting or changing my settings because the >> listserv won't recognize my new mail. I could just resubscribe from my new >> mail address but then Iwill endless continue to get the forwarded one. >> >> Thanks. >> >> scott Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Tue Feb 20 18:46:57 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:46:57 -0600 Subject: Off: Re: Virus Alert??? Message-ID: Because. It's all in the mix. bwahahahahahahahhahahah ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:19 PM Subject: Virus Alert??? > Can someone explain why I've received 5 messages containing the text 'Its > All In the Mix' from participants of this group? > > Captain Bl at ck. > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 20 18:58:31 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:58:31 EST Subject: Off: Re: HW:Damnation Alley film on BBC tonight Message-ID: In a message dated 2/19/01 8:16:53 PM US Eastern Standard Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > Haven't read the book, or anything > else by Zelazny: what's a good one to start with? > Damnation Alley is a good one to start with! The Amber series is most excellent! Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Feb 20 19:30:52 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:30:52 -0500 Subject: OFF: Listening, Slice of the R&R Life, Elevator (was Re: H/W remix & Thrilling Adventures.) Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:50:15 -0500, Eric Siegerman wrote: >... deconstructing that awful old Bill Shatner record (MacArthur >Park, Lucy in the Sky, "To be or not to be", something from Henry >V, etc. -- all of it grossly overacted, with a mostly cheeeezy >musical accompaniment) ... ooh (AND "Mr. Tambourine Man") ... 'The Transformed Man'! Listening to Michael Moorcock's singing voice is a less-painful proposition. > But the van broke down just out of Toronto. Seven >people standing by the side of the post-rush-hour freeway with a >van's worth of gear piled on the grass, waiting for the tow-truck >and then for a ride back into town. Too bad nobody had a camera; >it'd have made a great CD cover! Somewhere in Japan, there's a video tape of me smoking a cigarette (something I normally do NOT do!), watching my car going up in flames by the side of the freeway. Fortunately, although the band was in my car, all their equipment was in a different one. The time the van blew a tire at 90mph on the freeway west of Chicago (about 6 hours out of Minneapolis), we didn't have time to think of photos since we were supposed to be at the Pittsburgh airport in another 10 hours ... >NP: Pat Benatar, "In the Heat of the Night" >1. So shoot me Last week, I wound up seeing a particularly theatrical metal band closing their set with "Hell Is For Children", during which the singer pulls a baby (doll) out of a stroller (pram for you Brits), impales it on a pitchfork and lights it on fire! Rock and Roll! >2. I've always been a sucker for Mike Chapman's production Me, too (Blondie at right around the same time). And songwriting (at least one person on this list has heard me croak out "A.C.D.C."). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Feb 20 19:33:17 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:33:17 -0500 Subject: HW: Odd HW tracks Message-ID: >Hi, >Does anyone have a listing of those odd HW tracks that have cropped up on >non-HW CDs or just as bonus tracks : >I'm thinking of stuff like: > >Space Sex (Alien vinyl?) >Theta Orinis (have I imagined this one) Terror (sic) Mystica, from the boot CD entitled Theta Orionis, I believe you mean. Terra Mystica it should be, innit? The single Gimme Shelter w/ Sam Fox was on that one as well. There was also a live Lord of Light (left off of Love in Space) on a vinyl EP or something, right? Then there's the blanga track with the long title from the 25 Years On boxset. And of course, Honky Dorky and Dreams of Isis and Nuclear Toy and Raping Robots in the Street and .... >Bonus tracks on California Brainstorm >The Pink Floyd Encyclopedia thingy >Isn't there a live Love In Space on Ambient Anarchists? There are a couple of otherwise unseen versions of tracks on AA, three or four I think. >I'm sure there's many others which is why I'm after some sort of pre-compiled >list. >Failing this, where can I locate the latest online Codex? This will certainly have all the info you need...I forget where it's currently residing...it was a recent thread on the yahoo list. Grakkl (FAA) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Feb 20 20:21:29 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:21:29 -0500 Subject: HW: Odd HW tracks Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:33:17 -0500, K Henderson wrote: >>Does anyone have a listing of those odd HW tracks that have cropped up on >>non-HW CDs or just as bonus tracks : >>I'm thinking of stuff like: >> >>Space Sex (Alien vinyl?) Correct. >>Theta Orinis (have I imagined this one) > >Terror (sic) Mystica, from the boot CD entitled Theta Orionis, I believe >you mean. Terra Mystica it should be, innit? Yes, "Terra Mystica" from the vinyl 'Business Trip' double-LP. >The single Gimme Shelter w/ Sam Fox was on that one as well. > >There was also a live Lord of Light (left off of Love in Space) on a vinyl >EP or something, right? >From the "Love In Space" CD5; there's also a weird version of "Sonic Attack" on the CD single (my best guess is Calvert's vocal track from the Dojo/Griffin 'Hawklords Live' version with new instrumentation). Was there ever a 12" vinyl version of that single? >Then there's the blanga track with the long title from the 25 Years On >boxset. "I am the Eye that Looks Within", I think. Which was then re-used as the backing track for "Blue Skin" (as I think I mentioned last week). >And of course, Honky Dorky and Dreams of Isis and Nuclear Toy and Raping >Robots in the Street and .... The 'Decide Your Future' and 'Quark Strangeness & Charm' CDEP's ... >>Bonus tracks on California Brainstorm Just the live version of "Images" that's on the UK 'California Brainstorm' but not the US one. >>The Pink Floyd Encyclopedia thingy "Interstellar Overdrive" >>Isn't there a live Love In Space on Ambient Anarchists? There's a live "Love In Space" on that German 'Herzberg' (sp?) double-CD that also has tracks from Faust, Guru Guru, etc. Sounds almost identical to the title track of the HW double live to me. I think that covers it, at least for the 90's ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Feb 20 20:27:54 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:27:54 -0500 Subject: OFF: Listening, Slice of the R&R Life, Elevator (was Re: H/W remix & Thrilling Adventures.) In-Reply-To: <200102210030.TAA07603@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: At 07:30 PM 2/20/01 -0500, Douglas Pearson wrote: >On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:50:15 -0500, Eric Siegerman >wrote: >>... deconstructing that awful old Bill Shatner record (MacArthur >>Park, Lucy in the Sky, "To be or not to be", something from Henry >>V, etc. -- all of it grossly overacted, with a mostly cheeeezy >>musical accompaniment) ... > >ooh (AND "Mr. Tambourine Man") ... 'The Transformed Man'! Listening to >Michael Moorcock's singing voice is a less-painful proposition. I lived upon the edge of chance for 20 years or more... and this is what my friends all mean.... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Wed Feb 21 03:08:18 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:08:18 +0000 Subject: HW: Odd HW tracks In-Reply-To: <200102210121.UAA07847@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: The sudden explosion of odd live versions at the rate of one per CD contributed strongly to the effective death of my Hawkwind record purchasing in the last few years (along with general skintness). I mean, I was never a Kollector, but did my best to get a copy of as many of the actual recordings as I could. But there has been an absolute avalanche of dodgy releases, it seems to me, in the last few years (usually live, somewhere, recorded on a piece of tin foil) and many a random compilation with perhaps one otherwise unavailable track (usually a live version of "Love in Space" ;) ... ... and I just threw my hands up in the air in surrender! Thank the gods I haven't felt the need to track down a video copy of the Mazda advert :) Still, I suppose I'll slowly track down most of these releases, depending on how fast it takes me to become stupendously wealthy ;) Cheers, Carl ObCD: HotMg! :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Feb 21 03:37:06 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:37:06 -0000 Subject: HW: Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <48.11b89fd4.27c42ec6@aol.com> Message-ID: I can do no better than to point you in the direction of the Encyclopaedia Morningtonia, at http://madeira.physiol.ucl.ac.uk/people/jim/mc_em.html Cheers, Rich. > > OK I give in...I know very little about mornington crescent,except for its > radio origins,....Please someone post an address where I can find > the rules . > (PS I accidently deleted the original mail that started all this off..can > someone please repost the original HW related address...Thanks) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Feb 21 04:00:28 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:00:28 -0000 Subject: HW: that three day festival thing Message-ID: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * FORTHCOMING CANTERBURY- Any of this any use to you Arin??? Andy Garibaldi RELATED CONCERTS * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * [for more info : check out the 'Concerts' page of CALYX] http://perso.club-internet.fr/calyx/index/concerts.html ==> CARAVAN <============================================================ Jul 22 - BURG-HERZBERG Festival (Germany) Info: mailto:think.progressive at t-online.de Held between July 19-22, 2001, the festival will also feature Magma, Porcupine Tree, Ozric Tentacles, Anekdoten, Keef Hartley Band, Embryo, RPWL and Birth Control. Aug 18 - CANTERBURY Festival Other plans for CARAVAN include dates in Italy and Southern France during the Spring, and an appearance at MexProg Festival (Mexico) in September 2001. Line-up: Pye Hastings, Dave Sinclair, Richard Coughlan, Geoff Richardson, Doug Boyle, Jim Leverton, Simon Bentall ==> GONG <=============================================================== Apr 15 - OSAKA (Japan), Club Quattro / Apr 16 - TOKYO (Japan), Club Quattro / Apr 17 - TOKYO (Japan), Star Pine's Cafe ==> DIDIER MALHERBE & HADOUK TRIO <====================================== Mar 09/10 - PARIS, Sunset / Mar 23 - VILLEBON-SUR-YVETTE, MJC Bobby Lapointe / Apr 05 - TRAPPES, Le Grenier A Sel / Apr 24 - QUIMPER, Theatre de Cornouailles with Loy Ehrlich (hajaj & synth) & Steve Shehan (percussion) More info: http://www.malherbedidier.com ======================================================================== * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * AND OTHER GOOD GIGS... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ==> BILL BRUFORD'S EARTHWORKS <========================================== Info: http://www.bbprod.demon.co.uk/news.html ==> JOHN ETHERIDGE [ex-Soft Machine guitarist] <========================= Info: http://www.johnetheridge.f9.co.uk ==> SCOTT McGILL's HAND FARM <=========================================== Apr 04 - NEW YORK CITY (NY), Wetlands Preserve / Apr 07 - BALTIMORE (MD), Orion Sound Studios Line-up: Scott McGill (guitar), Michael Manring (bass), Vic Stevens (drums) These shows coincide with the release of the band's new album "Addition By Subtraction", released on The Laser's Edge. (http://www.lasercd.com) Band info: http://www.ghostland.com/handfarm ==> ALLAN HOLDSWORTH TRIO <============================================== Mar 19 - VIENNA (Austria), Reigen / Mar 20 - NANCY (France), Academie Internationale de Musique / Mar 21 - HELLENDOORN (Netherlands), De Lantaarn / Mar 22 - ZOETERMEER (Netherlands), Boerderije / Mar 24 - BERLIN (Germany), Quasimodo Mar 26-31 - LONDON, Ronnie Scott's Club Apr 01 - CORTEMAGGIORE PC (Italy), Fillmore / Apr 02 - INNSBRUCK (Austria), Treibhaus / Apr 04-05 - ROMA (Italy), Big Mama / Apr 06-07 - STOCKHOLM (Sweden), Fasching Jazzklubb / Apr 08 - GOTEBORG (Sweden), Nefertiti Jazz Club with Dave Carpenter (bass) and Joel Taylor (drums) Info: http://www.allanholdsworth.com ==> MAGMA <============================================================== Feb 23 - SAINT-ETIENNE (France), Hall C / Feb 25 - PORTE-LES-VALENCE (France) / Feb 28 - SETE (France), Theatre / Mar 01 - TOULOUSE (France), Le Bikini / Mar 02 - PAU (France) / Mar 03 - CARCASSONNE (France) / Mar 09 - POITIERS (France), La Blaiserie / Mar 10 - ORLEANS or TOURS (France) / Mar 29 - DIJON (France) / Mar 30 - FRIBOURG (Germany), Fri-Son / Mar 31 - VITRY LE FRANCOIS (France), L'Orange Bleue / Apr 19 - NANCY (France), Salle Poirel / Apr 20 - St.PETERSBURG (Russia), Festival / Apr 27 - BORDEAUX (France), Salle du Vigean / Apr 28 - AGEN (France) May 29 - OSAKA (Japan), Club Quattro / May 30/31 - TOKYO (Japan), On Air West Jul 21 - BURG-HERZBERG Festival (Germany) More info: http://www.seventhrecords.com ==> MARSHALL - TRAVIS - WOOD <=========================================== Feb 28 - LEEDS, The Wardrobe [info: 0113 2742486] ==> MUJICIAN <=========================================================== Feb 15 - BASINGSTOKE, The Anvil / Feb 21 - TOTNES, Dartington Arts / Feb 22 - SOUTHEND-ON-SEA, The Cliffs Pavillion / Feb 23 - MANCHESTER, The Royal Northern College of Music Line-up: Keith Tippett (piano), Paul Dunmall (sax), Paul Rogers (bass), Tony Levin (drums) ==> NEARFEST 2001 <====================================================== Jun 23/24 - BETHLEHEM, PA (USA), Lehigh University Featuring: Banco, Porcupine Tree, After Crying, The Underground Railroad, Under the Sun, Deus Ex Machina, California Guitar Trio, Djam Karet, White Willow and Birdsongs of the Mesozoic. More info: http://www.nearfest.com ==> B.THOMPSON'S PARAPHERNALIA <========================================= Mar 02 - LUZERN (Austria), Stadtkeller / Mar 03 - DORNBIRN (Austria), Conrad-Sohm-Halle / Mar 05 - INNSBRUCK (Austria), Treibhaus / Mar 06 - WORGL (Austria), Komma / Mar 07 - HALLEIN (Austria), Stadttheater / Mar 08 - KLAGENFURT (Austria), Kamot / Mar 09 - OSLIP (Austria), Cselley-Muhle / Mar 10 - St.POLTEN (Austria), Buhne im Hof / Mar 12 - VIENNA (Austria), Szene / Mar 13 - SPIELBERG (Austria), Kulturzentrum / Mar 14 - GRAZ (Austria), Orpheum / Mar 15 - LINZ (Austria), Posthof / Mar 17 - ZWETTL (Austria), Gasthof Dichter Hamerling / Mar 18 - BUDAPEST (Hungary), Darshan Culture Centre Mar 20 - ROTH (Germany), Kulturfabrik / Mar 22 - TUBINGEN (Germany), Mensa / Mar 23 - STUTTGART (Germany), Liederhalle-Mozartsaal / Mar 24 - ELSOFF (Germany), Lasterbachhalle / Mar 25 - KARLSRUHE (Germany), Tollhaus / Mar 26 - FRANKFURT (Germany), Mousonturm / Mar 27 - WOLFSBURG (Germany), Congress Park / Mar 29 - KIEL (Germany), Pumpe / Mar 30 - HANNOVER (Germany), Pavillion Apr 02-07 - LONDON, Ronnie Scott's Club ==> THEO TRAVIS <======================================================== Feb 18 - KINGSTON, Surrey Boaters [with Simon Carter Trio] / Feb 23 - BRISTOL, Bebop Club [with Andy Hague Quartet] / Mar 29 - OXFORD, Wheatsheaf Hotel [with Pete Oxley Trio] Info: http://www.travis33.demon.co.uk ======================================================================== ======================================================================== END OF ISSUE 176 _________________________________________________________________________ WHAT'S RATTLIN'? - WHAT'S RATTLIN'? - WHAT'S RATTLIN'? _________________________________________________________________________ CALYX - The Canterbury Website http://perso.club-internet.fr/calyx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:27 PM Subject: HW: that three day festival thing > Hey folks, > > Is that three day festival thing sometime this summer still a possible go? > > ...and is there a website for the Canterbury Festival? > > Thanks, > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 20 13:13:26 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:13:26 -0000 Subject: Spacebrock?..Hawkwind? Message-ID: >Song titles - Lifeform, Assassination and Earth Calling - I have only in >vinyl. There are plenty of original tracks on Spacebrock so I shall be >adding it to my collection :-) >I downloaded Space Brock (the song) off Napster and liked it. Earth Calling on SpaceBrock has only its title in common with the Space Ritual, or any other, version (that I've heard anyway). Nick From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 21 05:45:10 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:45:10 GMT Subject: HW: Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: Al Ogilvy's message of Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:34:14 EST Message-ID: Al Ogilvy writes: > OK I give in...I know very little about mornington crescent,except for > its radio origins,....Please someone post an address where I can find > the rules . Which set of rules? Are you a fan of the purist game or of variations? FoFP From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Feb 21 05:43:05 2001 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas, Guy) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:43:05 -0000 Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL Message-ID: Just browsing the Monsters web site : http://www.monstermagnet.net/html/ Noticed on their 1991 LP, there's a track called "Snake Dance". Is this a cover of Dave/Harvey's song from Electric Teepee? (Not forgetting that it was originally generally known as OOTS-part 2). MM and Dave Wyndorf in particular, are well know HW fans. Their version of Brainstorm is possibly better than the original (waiting for Andy G to arrange my assassination!) Have a look at the fold-out cover on the new CD "God Says No". You'll see Dave is wearing a DoReMi T-shirt. (There's also a very tasty Damned T-shirt too, same logo as on their 1977 freebie single.) A bit about KREL: Just noticed AndyG's website too! Great news indeed about the KREL retrospective CD. I've heard some of the material, a lot of it previously unreleased, and it really is superb. A lot of the material was played live, when they supported HW on the 1992 Teepee tour, so if anybody witnessed them - you're in for a treat! Knowing how well the "Ad Astra" CD was received, then the new CD really should be part of every HW fan's collection Best wishes, Guy T. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 21 05:58:21 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:58:21 GMT Subject: HW: Spacebrock - a few comments In-Reply-To: J D's message of Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:17:22 -0000 Message-ID: J D writes: > The final track "Do You Want This Body" is also missing, however Damage = > Of Life has been snuck in without any mention on the sleeve. > Of the remaining tracks that are both on the sleeve and actually on the = > CD, you can choose your own title of at least 3 of the songs as the = > words in the booklet are listed under different titles to the rear. > Take your pick between : > To Be Or Not / To Be > The Starkness Of The Capsule / Pressing You > 1st Landing / The First Landing On Medusa > Wonderfully confusing, intentional or just a mass cock-up? Dave: Hey Richard - logged the net lately? Richard: Yeah. Dave: What's happening? Richard: Oh. The usual. They're playing Meta Mornington Crescent now. Dave: These guys are amazing. Any new files? Richard: Nah. But there's been talk of a new Codex. Dave: I can't believe anyone could sit and listen to variations of all the tracks. Richard: They probably don't. They're just making it up. Dave: Nah. I think they really do this. Richard: Let's run a test: make things tricky and see if they catch on. Dave: Like how? Richard: How about having several albums all called the same name? Dave: Nah. We've done that one. We're now up to 5 Masters of the Universe and 4 Silver Machines. Richard: How about listing tracks that aren't on the album? Dave: Done that too, and got the t-shirts printed. Richard: Not listing tracks that are there? Dave: Been there, done that. Richard: Putting the same track twice? Dave: Done. Richard: Used the lyrics for one track in another track? Dave. Done. Richard: Used the music for one track in another track? Dave: Done. Richard: There's nothing for it but to start doing these in various combinations. Maybe we could get Dave Anderson in on it. He's pretty good at that sort of thing. Dave: Good plan! Where's my mobile? From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 21 05:59:56 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:59:56 GMT Subject: HW:OFF- MIKE FoFP In-Reply-To: Mike Coleman's message of Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:20:32 -0600 Message-ID: Mike Coleman writes: > Mike ....get off my Greek CD, or I'm waiting for you just outside the PUB,,,,, > > PS-I run real fast after I hit hard.... > > save your dough for the drinks and your head for your life,,,, So what happened? The auction was cancelled? Is this some dastardly scheme of yours to avoid a fair fight? FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 21 06:08:43 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:38:43 +1030 Subject: HW: that three day festival thing Message-ID: It'll be on the Mission Control updates when its happening - theres some neat stuff on the way from the mission by the way!!! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:30 PM Subject: Re: HW: that three day festival thing > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * FORTHCOMING CANTERBURY- > Any of this any use to you Arin??? > Andy Garibaldi > > > > > RELATED CONCERTS * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > [for more info : check out the 'Concerts' page of CALYX] > http://perso.club-internet.fr/calyx/index/concerts.html > > ==> CARAVAN <============================================================ > > Jul 22 - BURG-HERZBERG Festival (Germany) > > Info: mailto:think.progressive at t-online.de > > Held between July 19-22, 2001, the festival will also feature Magma, > Porcupine Tree, Ozric Tentacles, Anekdoten, Keef Hartley Band, Embryo, RPWL > and Birth Control. > > Aug 18 - CANTERBURY Festival > > Other plans for CARAVAN include dates in Italy and Southern France during > the Spring, and an appearance at MexProg Festival (Mexico) in September > 2001. > > Line-up: Pye Hastings, Dave Sinclair, Richard Coughlan, Geoff Richardson, > Doug Boyle, Jim Leverton, Simon Bentall > > ==> GONG <=============================================================== > > Apr 15 - OSAKA (Japan), Club Quattro / Apr 16 - TOKYO (Japan), Club Quattro > / Apr 17 - TOKYO (Japan), Star Pine's Cafe > > ==> DIDIER MALHERBE & HADOUK TRIO <====================================== > > Mar 09/10 - PARIS, Sunset / Mar 23 - VILLEBON-SUR-YVETTE, MJC Bobby > Lapointe / Apr 05 - TRAPPES, Le Grenier A Sel / Apr 24 - QUIMPER, Theatre > de Cornouailles > > with Loy Ehrlich (hajaj & synth) & Steve Shehan (percussion) > > More info: http://www.malherbedidier.com > > ========================================================================= > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * AND OTHER GOOD GIGS... * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > ==> BILL BRUFORD'S EARTHWORKS <========================================== > > Info: http://www.bbprod.demon.co.uk/news.html > > ==> JOHN ETHERIDGE [ex-Soft Machine guitarist] <========================= > > Info: http://www.johnetheridge.f9.co.uk > > ==> SCOTT McGILL's HAND FARM <=========================================== > > Apr 04 - NEW YORK CITY (NY), Wetlands Preserve / Apr 07 - BALTIMORE (MD), > Orion Sound Studios > > Line-up: Scott McGill (guitar), Michael Manring (bass), > Vic Stevens (drums) > > These shows coincide with the release of the band's new album "Addition By > Subtraction", released on The Laser's Edge. (http://www.lasercd.com) > > Band info: http://www.ghostland.com/handfarm > > ==> ALLAN HOLDSWORTH TRIO <============================================== > > Mar 19 - VIENNA (Austria), Reigen / Mar 20 - NANCY (France), Academie > Internationale de Musique / Mar 21 - HELLENDOORN (Netherlands), De Lantaarn > / Mar 22 - ZOETERMEER (Netherlands), Boerderije / Mar 24 - BERLIN > (Germany), Quasimodo > > Mar 26-31 - LONDON, Ronnie Scott's Club > > Apr 01 - CORTEMAGGIORE PC (Italy), Fillmore / Apr 02 - INNSBRUCK (Austria), > Treibhaus / Apr 04-05 - ROMA (Italy), Big Mama / Apr 06-07 - STOCKHOLM > (Sweden), Fasching Jazzklubb / Apr 08 - GOTEBORG (Sweden), Nefertiti Jazz > Club > > with Dave Carpenter (bass) and Joel Taylor (drums) > > Info: http://www.allanholdsworth.com > > ==> MAGMA <============================================================== > > Feb 23 - SAINT-ETIENNE (France), Hall C / Feb 25 - PORTE-LES-VALENCE > (France) / Feb 28 - SETE (France), Theatre / Mar 01 - TOULOUSE (France), Le > Bikini / Mar 02 - PAU (France) / Mar 03 - CARCASSONNE (France) / Mar 09 - > POITIERS (France), La Blaiserie / Mar 10 - ORLEANS or TOURS (France) / Mar > 29 - DIJON (France) / Mar 30 - FRIBOURG (Germany), Fri-Son / Mar 31 - VITRY > LE FRANCOIS (France), L'Orange Bleue / Apr 19 - NANCY (France), Salle > Poirel / Apr 20 - St.PETERSBURG (Russia), Festival / Apr 27 - BORDEAUX > (France), Salle du Vigean / Apr 28 - AGEN (France) > > May 29 - OSAKA (Japan), Club Quattro / May 30/31 - TOKYO (Japan), On Air > West > > Jul 21 - BURG-HERZBERG Festival (Germany) > > More info: http://www.seventhrecords.com > > ==> MARSHALL - TRAVIS - WOOD <=========================================== > > Feb 28 - LEEDS, The Wardrobe [info: 0113 2742486] > > ==> MUJICIAN <=========================================================== > > Feb 15 - BASINGSTOKE, The Anvil / Feb 21 - TOTNES, Dartington Arts / Feb 22 > - SOUTHEND-ON-SEA, The Cliffs Pavillion / Feb 23 - MANCHESTER, The Royal > Northern College of Music > > Line-up: Keith Tippett (piano), Paul Dunmall (sax), > Paul Rogers (bass), Tony Levin (drums) > > ==> NEARFEST 2001 <====================================================== > > Jun 23/24 - BETHLEHEM, PA (USA), Lehigh University > > Featuring: Banco, Porcupine Tree, After Crying, The Underground Railroad, > Under the Sun, Deus Ex Machina, California Guitar Trio, Djam Karet, White > Willow and Birdsongs of the Mesozoic. > > More info: http://www.nearfest.com > > ==> B.THOMPSON'S PARAPHERNALIA <========================================= > > Mar 02 - LUZERN (Austria), Stadtkeller / Mar 03 - DORNBIRN (Austria), > Conrad-Sohm-Halle / Mar 05 - INNSBRUCK (Austria), Treibhaus / Mar 06 - > WORGL (Austria), Komma / Mar 07 - HALLEIN (Austria), Stadttheater / Mar 08 > - KLAGENFURT (Austria), Kamot / Mar 09 - OSLIP (Austria), Cselley-Muhle / > Mar 10 - St.POLTEN (Austria), Buhne im Hof / Mar 12 - VIENNA (Austria), > Szene / Mar 13 - SPIELBERG (Austria), Kulturzentrum / Mar 14 - GRAZ > (Austria), Orpheum / Mar 15 - LINZ (Austria), Posthof / Mar 17 - ZWETTL > (Austria), Gasthof Dichter Hamerling / Mar 18 - BUDAPEST (Hungary), Darshan > Culture Centre > > Mar 20 - ROTH (Germany), Kulturfabrik / Mar 22 - TUBINGEN (Germany), Mensa > / Mar 23 - STUTTGART (Germany), Liederhalle-Mozartsaal / Mar 24 - ELSOFF > (Germany), Lasterbachhalle / Mar 25 - KARLSRUHE (Germany), Tollhaus / Mar > 26 - FRANKFURT (Germany), Mousonturm / Mar 27 - WOLFSBURG (Germany), > Congress Park / Mar 29 - KIEL (Germany), Pumpe / Mar 30 - HANNOVER > (Germany), Pavillion > > Apr 02-07 - LONDON, Ronnie Scott's Club > > ==> THEO TRAVIS <======================================================== > > Feb 18 - KINGSTON, Surrey Boaters [with Simon Carter Trio] / Feb 23 - > BRISTOL, Bebop Club [with Andy Hague Quartet] / Mar 29 - OXFORD, Wheatsheaf > Hotel [with Pete Oxley Trio] > > Info: http://www.travis33.demon.co.uk > > ========================================================================= > ========================================================================= > > END OF ISSUE 176 > _________________________________________________________________________ > > WHAT'S RATTLIN'? - WHAT'S RATTLIN'? - WHAT'S RATTLIN'? > _________________________________________________________________________ > > CALYX - The Canterbury Website > http://perso.club-internet.fr/calyx > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arin Komins" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:27 PM > Subject: HW: that three day festival thing > > > > Hey folks, > > > > Is that three day festival thing sometime this summer still a possible go? > > > > ...and is there a website for the Canterbury Festival? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Arin > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > Web Systems Administrator > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Feb 21 06:32:00 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 05:32:00 -0600 Subject: HW:OFF- MIKE FoFP In-Reply-To: <200102211059.KAA05201@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >So what happened? The auction was cancelled? Is this some dastardly >scheme of yours to avoid a fair fight? > >FoFP Mike,,,,it wasn't me this time.....If you were not paying me back for my twisted and DASTARDLY (it was DASTARDLY, wasn't it!) scheming on the BBC, I think I may know who it might have been... Have you found out yet???? and PS--I wouldn't fight you fair because you'd win.....if we ever fight it'll have to be with money, as I couldn't beat you without a suckercrunch from a beerbottle.... But it was a joke..you know that.... off to go try to raise hell don't they know this boy never sleeps..... Mike...I ACTUALLY HOPE YOU GOT IT...because if you did not, it means I have TRULY BEEN DECEIVED>>>>>>>>>>>> From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Feb 21 07:22:47 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 06:22:47 -0600 Subject: HW:OFF-Coleman/Holmes public fight laundry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>So what happened? The auction was cancelled? Is this some dastardly >>scheme of yours to avoid a fair fight? >> >>FoFP Mike....much to my delight, it appears that the user has been kicked off EBAY, rather than unfair play on any of our behalves..... So "I WIN:"....unless you decide to do evil....and if you do...it will be very costly evil!!! (YES, MONITARY COSTLY)...... I DID LEARN MY LESSON ON THE LAST TIME ... BUT!!!...You were a little deceptive yourself megood lordship friend of Fernando, as you were feeling me out for your fair maiden Jilly to move in for the kill....(hi Jill...I like you still!!) SOOO...Love to us all, and I MEANT IT, that I respect you 2.....no worries,,,I play fair and square with you at Hawkjousting on Ebay, and I hope at the end of the days tournament, we go to same pub for Merriment!!!! From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Feb 21 06:23:45 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:23:45 EDT Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL In-Reply-To: <997CDAC4BBC5D211BE0B0008C70D298F02AE8D86@lnnt47.london.entoil.com> Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 950 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 21 07:34:06 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:34:06 GMT Subject: HW:OFF-Coleman/Holmes public fight laundry In-Reply-To: Mike Coleman's message of Wed, 21 Feb 2001 06:22:47 -0600 Message-ID: Mike Coleman writes: > >>So what happened? The auction was cancelled? Is this some dastardly > >>scheme of yours to avoid a fair fight? > > Mike....much to my delight, it appears that the user has been kicked off > EBAY, rather than unfair play on any of our behalves..... Yeah. Any Idea what happened? Who was the seller? Who got the item? I'm afraid I didn't. Does anyone know which Greek magazine had the Hawkwind CD? FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Feb 21 07:46:55 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 06:46:55 -0600 Subject: HW:OFF-Coleman/Holmes public fight laundry In-Reply-To: <200102211234.MAA24572@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Mike...the deal is this....my friend in Germany (hey friend in Germany-stop growling at me...you won't be much longer).. We have dibs on additional copies, and if this CD is left to go to the rightful winner, free of evil tamper-offers, one will be there for you.....(thanks to me, for slobbering at their feet, of course!).... M. FoWS From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Feb 21 08:05:02 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:05:02 -0000 Subject: HW: Odd HW tracks Message-ID: Hi, Thanx for the responses to my request for list of "odd" HW tracks appearing here & there. I'm the kind of collector who likes to have all official HW releases but wouldn't stretch to buying live Festival CDs just to get one song. Consequently TAT & Herzburg are absent from my collection. The CD EPs count as valid inclusions in my books, hence Love In Space, Quark, Right To Decide are present but couldn't stomach Spirit Of The Age (Solstice) and never got round to getting Gimme Shelter. I thought that the Floyd thing had 2 or 3 tracks, but only IO has been verified, wasn't there something called Brock's Hyperspace/drive? Can anybody confirm what otherwise unobtainable HW tracks are on Ambient Anarchists? Not interested in whatever Mr Salt-Talk, Astralasia, KLF etc think they can do with HW songs! So, to summarise the 90's releases that fit the bill .... Space Sex - Alien vinyl Terra Mystica - Business Trip vinyl Theta Orionis CD Gimme Shelter - EP CD & Theta Orionis CD I am the Eye that Looks Within - 25 Years On box set Images - UK California Brainstorm Interstellar Overdrive - Pink Floyd Encyclopedia Love In Space (live) & 3 or 4 others - Ambient Anarchists Love In Space (live) German 'Herzberg' CD Plus Love In Space / Quark / Right To Decide / Spirit (Solstice) CD EPs. I guess the final 6 songs on Family Tree kinda fit the bill as it's not really a HW CD to my way of thinking! Can anybody add to this or correct any errors? Cheers, Jez From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Feb 21 08:10:20 2001 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas, Guy) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:10:20 -0000 Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL Message-ID: Ted - on a scale of 1 to 10, I'd say that "God Says No" is probably a 12! Guy -----Original Message----- From: Ted Jackson [mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] Sent: 21 February 2001 11:24 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL On 21 Feb 2001, at 10:43, Thomas, Guy wrote: > Just browsing the Monsters web site : > > http://www.monstermagnet.net/html/ > > > Noticed on their 1991 LP, there's a track called "Snake Dance". Is > this a cover of Dave/Harvey's song from Electric Teepee? (Not > forgetting that it was originally generally known as OOTS-part 2). > > MM and Dave Wyndorf in particular, are well know HW fans. Their > version of Brainstorm is possibly better than the original (waiting > for Andy G to arrange my assassination!) > > Have a look at the fold-out cover on the new CD "God Says No". You'll > see Dave is wearing a DoReMi T-shirt. (There's also a very tasty > Damned T-shirt too, same logo as on their 1977 freebie single.) > That hasn't been released in the US has it? What's the verdict on it? theo From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Feb 21 08:19:52 2001 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas, Guy) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:19:52 -0000 Subject: Odd HW tracks Message-ID: Jez - I largely agree with you! (never heard Space Sex yet!) In fact, I made up my own compilation mini-disc of most of these tracks, as well as the "extra" tracks that appear on Church of Hawkwind! Much better than wading through loads of random CDs! Guy (I'm posting that cheque to you for Nik's Space Ritual - if you still want to sell it - shoulkd get it in the morning) -----Original Message----- From: J D [mailto:Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK] Sent: 21 February 2001 13:05 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Odd HW tracks Hi, Thanx for the responses to my request for list of "odd" HW tracks appearing here & there. I'm the kind of collector who likes to have all official HW releases but wouldn't stretch to buying live Festival CDs just to get one song. Consequently TAT & Herzburg are absent from my collection. The CD EPs count as valid inclusions in my books, hence Love In Space, Quark, Right To Decide are present but couldn't stomach Spirit Of The Age (Solstice) and never got round to getting Gimme Shelter. I thought that the Floyd thing had 2 or 3 tracks, but only IO has been verified, wasn't there something called Brock's Hyperspace/drive? Can anybody confirm what otherwise unobtainable HW tracks are on Ambient Anarchists? Not interested in whatever Mr Salt-Talk, Astralasia, KLF etc think they can do with HW songs! So, to summarise the 90's releases that fit the bill .... Space Sex - Alien vinyl Terra Mystica - Business Trip vinyl Theta Orionis CD Gimme Shelter - EP CD & Theta Orionis CD I am the Eye that Looks Within - 25 Years On box set Images - UK California Brainstorm Interstellar Overdrive - Pink Floyd Encyclopedia Love In Space (live) & 3 or 4 others - Ambient Anarchists Love In Space (live) German 'Herzberg' CD Plus Love In Space / Quark / Right To Decide / Spirit (Solstice) CD EPs. I guess the final 6 songs on Family Tree kinda fit the bill as it's not really a HW CD to my way of thinking! Can anybody add to this or correct any errors? Cheers, Jez From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Feb 21 07:40:35 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:40:35 EDT Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL In-Reply-To: <997CDAC4BBC5D211BE0B0008C70D298F02AE8D89@lnnt47.london.entoil.com> Message-ID: On 21 Feb 2001, at 13:10, Thomas, Guy wrote: > Ted - on a scale of 1 to 10, I'd say that "God Says No" is probably a > 12! > Damn! Anyone know why they've delayed releasing it in the US for so long? theo From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 21 10:41:57 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:41:57 GMT Subject: HW: Odd HW tracks In-Reply-To: J D's message of Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:05:02 -0000 Message-ID: J D writes: > Hi, > Thanx for the responses to my request for list of "odd" HW tracks appearing > here & there. > I'm the kind of collector who likes to have all official HW releases but > wouldn't stretch to buying live Festival CDs just to get one song. > Consequently TAT & Herzburg are absent from my collection. > The CD EPs count as valid inclusions in my books, hence Love In Space, > Quark, Right To Decide are present but couldn't stomach Spirit Of The Age > (Solstice) and never got round to getting Gimme Shelter. > I thought that the Floyd thing had 2 or 3 tracks, but only IO has been > verified, wasn't there something called Brock's Hyperspace/drive? Hyperdrive Reprise is the 2nd track. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 21 10:42:45 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:42:45 GMT Subject: HW:OFF-Coleman/Holmes public fight laundry In-Reply-To: Mike Coleman's message of Wed, 21 Feb 2001 06:46:55 -0600 Message-ID: Mike Coleman writes: > Mike...the deal is this....my friend in Germany (hey friend in > Germany-stop growling at me...you won't be much longer).. > > We have dibs on additional copies, and if this CD is left to go to the > rightful winner, free of evil tamper-offers, one will be there for > you.....(thanks to me, for slobbering at their feet, of course!).... Excellent! Thanks. Keep me posted on Progress. Do you have a tracklist for the CD? FoFP From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Feb 21 10:59:06 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:59:06 EST Subject: HW: Odd HW tracks Message-ID: In a message dated 2/20/01 5:21:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > >And of course, Honky Dorky and Dreams of Isis and Nuclear Toy and Raping > >Robots in the Street and .... > > The 'Decide Your Future' and 'Quark Strangeness & Charm' CDEP's ... > HUH?? I have both these EP's and neither contain any of the above four tracks. I know Honky and Dreams are on the Griffin ASAM (which I still sooo regret not picking up..), Nuke Toy is on the Griffin Levitation and some other BS-comp... and of course the orig. Weird version on the new CD. Raping I have no version of either. Quark EP has "Black Sun". Decide has "The Camera That Would Not Die" (ha!). Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Feb 21 11:03:38 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:03:38 EST Subject: HW: Odd HW tracks Message-ID: In a message dated 2/21/01 8:00:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, Chuckrecs at AOL.COM writes: > HUH?? I have both these EP's and neither contain any of the above four > tracks. I know Honky and Dreams are on the Griffin ASAM (which I still sooo > regret not picking up..), Nuke Toy is on the Griffin Levitation and some > other BS-comp... and of course the orig. Weird version on the new CD. Raping > I have no version of either. > Quark EP has "Black Sun". Decide has "The Camera That Would Not Die" (ha!). > > Chuck Hi, Chuck. Yes, good point, good point. A Q I forgot to ask re: the Decide Your Future EP: "The Camera That Would Not Lie" (mistitled as above): where did this appear orig. or is it exclusive to this EP? And I assume "Right to Decide" is the same that's on ET (a CD I haven't really listened to much)? thanks, Chuck From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Wed Feb 21 11:34:26 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:34:26 EST Subject: HW: Mornington Crescent Message-ID: OK...Hangar lane, on an out of date travelcard (Zone 3), with a copy of last years xmas private eye and utilising a half eaten fishpaste sandwich, Implementing the Heimlich Manouvre somewhere between south ruislip and perivale ( Not stopping at Greenford ( temporary platform closure),), and with on train travel announcements out of order. Game set and match, I feel, gents. From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Feb 21 11:52:10 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:52:10 -0000 Subject: HW: Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <7c.11e687df.27c54812@aol.com> Message-ID: Not bad - but you've overlooked the fact that *Goodge Street* with a peg on the Northern Line will block that, and put you in spoon. Nice try though! :-) Cheers, R. > > OK...Hangar lane, on an out of date travelcard (Zone 3), with a copy of > last years xmas private eye and utilising a half eaten fishpaste sandwich, > Implementing the Heimlich Manouvre somewhere between south ruislip and > perivale ( Not stopping at Greenford ( temporary platform closure),), and > with on train travel announcements out of order. > Game set and match, I feel, gents. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Feb 21 12:02:02 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:02:02 -0600 Subject: HW: that three day festival thing In-Reply-To: <003901c09be5$389e7a20$a997bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: that three day festival thing : :* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * :* FORTHCOMING CANTERBURY- :Any of this any use to you Arin??? :Andy Garibaldi : : [snip] thanks for the info, Andy! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Wed Feb 21 12:00:59 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:00:59 -0500 Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL Message-ID: I'm in full agreement with Guy. It's an excellent record. I'm looking forward to the tour. I saw MM when they played the Troubadour in Hollywood during the Power Trip tour. I was blown away! I only wished that they had played Brainstorm! Dan -----Original Message----- From: Thomas, Guy [SMTP:Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 5:10 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL Ted - on a scale of 1 to 10, I'd say that "God Says No" is probably a 12! Guy -----Original Message----- From: Ted Jackson [mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] Sent: 21 February 2001 11:24 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL On 21 Feb 2001, at 10:43, Thomas, Guy wrote: > Just browsing the Monsters web site : > > http://www.monstermagnet.net/html/ > > > Noticed on their 1991 LP, there's a track called "Snake Dance". Is > this a cover of Dave/Harvey's song from Electric Teepee? (Not > forgetting that it was originally generally known as OOTS-part 2). > > MM and Dave Wyndorf in particular, are well know HW fans. Their > version of Brainstorm is possibly better than the original (waiting > for Andy G to arrange my assassination!) > > Have a look at the fold-out cover on the new CD "God Says No". You'll > see Dave is wearing a DoReMi T-shirt. (There's also a very tasty > Damned T-shirt too, same logo as on their 1977 freebie single.) > That hasn't been released in the US has it? What's the verdict on it? theo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 21 12:36:40 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:36:40 GMT Subject: HW: Odd HW tracks In-Reply-To: Chuck Rosenberg's message of Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:59:06 EST Message-ID: You could use the Codex to identify odd tracks as they'll be listed only as single versions. FoFP From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Feb 21 13:32:14 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:32:14 -0000 Subject: HW: Where is the Codex? Message-ID: Hi, Keen to verify all the details regarding "odd" HW tracks. So where can I find the Codex? Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Feb 21 13:54:22 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:54:22 -0600 Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL Message-ID: > > the new CD "God Says No". > That hasn't been released in the US has it? What's the verdict on it? Verdict is thumbs up! Give it a listen when you have the chance. Personally, I think the record label made a *major* mistake by not releasing it in the US at the same time as Europe. I would have bought it. So, instead, I got the whole thing from Napster and found the cover art online as well. Do I feel guilty? Maybe a little but I *would* have purchased it if I could have got it locally. Found out later than it can be ordered online from amazon.de. (the German Amazon site) -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Feb 21 15:00:11 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:00:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:43:05 -0000, Thomas, Guy wrote: >Just browsing the Monsters web site : > > http://www.monstermagnet.net/html/ > >Noticed on their 1991 LP, there's a track called "Snake Dance". Is this a >cover of Dave/Harvey's song from Electric Teepee? (Not forgetting that it >was originally generally known as OOTS-part 2). No relation whatsoever. Along with "Nod Scene", that was (I think) one of the songs that MM re-did for 'Spine of God' after it originally came out on that eponymous 5-song 12"/6-song CD on Glitterhouse, which (IIRC) came out before 'Electric Teepee'. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Feb 21 15:16:57 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:16:57 -0500 Subject: HW: Odd HW tracks Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:03:38 EST, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >In a message dated 2/21/01 8:00:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, >Chuckrecs at AOL.COM writes: > >> HUH?? I have both these EP's and neither contain any of the above four >> tracks. I know Honky and Dreams are on the Griffin ASAM (which I still >> sooo regret not picking up..), Nuke Toy is on the Griffin Levitation >> and some other BS-comp... and of course the orig. Weird version on the >> new CD. Oops! Wasn't referring to Charisma/Bronze-era rarities when I mentioned those 90's EP's (I think I said something to the effect that I was only discussing 90's material). I think the only never-released-on-CD Charisma (or Bronze, for that matter) material would be the "Damnation Alley part II" single edit and *both* "Psi Power" single edits (the "regular" single edit that's on all the singles, and the edit-of-the-edit that's only on the US promo 7"). >A Q I forgot to ask re: the Decide Your Future EP: "The Camera That >Would Not Lie" (mistitled as above): where did this appear orig. or >is it exclusive to this EP? "The Camera That Could Lie" appears on 'IitBotFtbD'. I think that the EP and album versions are the same (time to check the codex!). >And I assume "Right to Decide" is the >same that's on ET (a CD I haven't really listened to much)? There are two versions of "Right To Decide" on the EP, the 'Electric Tepee' version, and the radio edit remix version. There's also "Assassin", but that's another remix thing. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Wed Feb 21 16:49:10 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:49:10 EST Subject: HW: Mornington Crescent Message-ID: Oh yeh ? Even with a bifurcated Snerge co-efficient whilst in knip ? From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Wed Feb 21 17:16:56 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:16:56 +0000 Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL In-Reply-To: <3A940EDE.A209943E@execpc.com> Message-ID: At 12.54 -0600 21.2.2001, Karen Kusic wrote: >> > the new CD "God Says No". > >> That hasn't been released in the US has it? What's the verdict on it? > >Verdict is thumbs up! Give it a listen when you have the chance. > >Found out later than it can be ordered online from amazon.de. >(the German Amazon site) Quite cheap, as things go, from the German amazon site. I got it some while ago, and also give it the thumbs up -- it's still very much the high-end slick production from Powertrip, maybe not quite as radio friendly (but, hey, I'm no expert there). I think it migh be a bit more interesting than Powertrip, but it doesn't pull anything that grabbed me as quite the monster riffing of tracks like Dopes, nor the outrageous spacerock of tracks like Dinosaur Vacumn ... but not bad. I thought it worked better live than on album -- live, it was clear that "Cry" was "Spine of God" for the year 2000, though that's much less blatant on the studio version ;) Mine claims to be the "UK Edition" whatever that means. The last two tracks are "bonus", whatever that means :) Cheers, Carl, who now has one of his guitars back with him and feels pretty good about that :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Feb 21 17:22:39 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:22:39 -0000 Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Carl, who now has one of his guitars back with him and feels pretty > good about that :) This means I'm going to have to dust off my synth, doesn't it... ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Feb 21 14:36:26 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:36:26 -0000 Subject: HW: Spacebrock - a few comments Message-ID: wonderful- you should be writing my reviews - love it - more please. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:58 AM Subject: Re: HW: Spacebrock - a few comments > J D writes: > > > The final track "Do You Want This Body" is also missing, however Damage = > > Of Life has been snuck in without any mention on the sleeve. > > Of the remaining tracks that are both on the sleeve and actually on the = > > CD, you can choose your own title of at least 3 of the songs as the = > > words in the booklet are listed under different titles to the rear. > > Take your pick between : > > To Be Or Not / To Be > > The Starkness Of The Capsule / Pressing You > > 1st Landing / The First Landing On Medusa > > Wonderfully confusing, intentional or just a mass cock-up? > > Dave: Hey Richard - logged the net lately? > > Richard: Yeah. > > Dave: What's happening? > > Richard: Oh. The usual. They're playing Meta Mornington Crescent now. > > Dave: These guys are amazing. Any new files? > > Richard: Nah. But there's been talk of a new Codex. > > Dave: I can't believe anyone could sit and listen to variations of all > the tracks. > > Richard: They probably don't. They're just making it up. > > Dave: Nah. I think they really do this. > > Richard: Let's run a test: make things tricky and see if they catch on. > > Dave: Like how? > > Richard: How about having several albums all called the same name? > > Dave: Nah. We've done that one. We're now up to 5 Masters of the > Universe and 4 Silver Machines. > > Richard: How about listing tracks that aren't on the album? > > Dave: Done that too, and got the t-shirts printed. > > Richard: Not listing tracks that are there? > > Dave: Been there, done that. > > Richard: Putting the same track twice? > > Dave: Done. > > Richard: Used the lyrics for one track in another track? > > Dave. Done. > > Richard: Used the music for one track in another track? > > Dave: Done. > > Richard: There's nothing for it but to start doing these in various > combinations. Maybe we could get Dave Anderson in on it. He's > pretty good at that sort of thing. > > Dave: Good plan! Where's my mobile? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Feb 21 18:24:20 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:24:20 -0000 Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL Message-ID: which Andy G? I'm not exactly the greatest MM fan in the world - right now I am just listening to daily rotations of the Votiva Lux EP - now THERE's a guitar EP for you!!! (see: http://www.andygee.dial.pipex.com/albummar ) Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas, Guy" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL > Just browsing the Monsters web site : > > http://www.monstermagnet.net/html/ > > Noticed on their 1991 LP, there's a track called "Snake Dance". Is this a > cover of Dave/Harvey's song from Electric Teepee? (Not forgetting that it > was originally generally known as OOTS-part 2). > > MM and Dave Wyndorf in particular, are well know HW fans. Their version of > Brainstorm is possibly better than the original (waiting for Andy G to > arrange my assassination!) > > Have a look at the fold-out cover on the new CD "God Says No". You'll see > Dave is wearing a DoReMi T-shirt. (There's also a very tasty Damned T-shirt > too, same logo as on their 1977 freebie single.) > > > > A bit about KREL: > > Just noticed AndyG's website too! Great news indeed about the KREL > retrospective CD. I've heard some of the material, a lot of it previously > unreleased, and it really is superb. A lot of the material was played live, > when they supported HW on the 1992 Teepee tour, so if anybody witnessed them > - you're in for a treat! > > Knowing how well the "Ad Astra" CD was received, then the new CD really > should be part of every HW fan's collection > > Best wishes, > > > Guy T. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Feb 21 18:46:53 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:46:53 -0500 Subject: OFF: quoting messages (was: Monster Magnet - KREL) Message-ID: OK, sorry to be in nag mode (I'm not normally this uptight! really!) ... On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:24:20 -0000, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >which Andy G? >I'm not exactly the greatest MM fan in the world - Well, if you quoted only the part of the message relevant to your query, instead of quoting the whole thing, it would have been obvious: On Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:43 AM, "Thomas, Guy" wrote: >> [big snip of all that Monster Magnet stuff that was of interest to Andy Gilham but not Andy Garibaldi - oh, those snips are so nice!] >> >> A bit about KREL: >> >> Just noticed AndyG's website too! Great news indeed about the KREL >> retrospective CD. I've heard some of the material, a lot of it previously >> unreleased, and it really is superb. How many AndyG's have KREL info on their websites?!? It's very difficult to follow a thread when the people contributing to it don't make it clear which part of the previous message they're responding to. Please, folks (not just Andy - sorry to single you out here!), quoting ONLY the part of the message you're replying to makes the boc-l experience much more positive for everyone. Again, apologies for the uptightness ... to demonstrate that I mean no ill whatsoever to mr. Garibaldi, I'll quote some more from the part of mr. Thomas' (most favorable!) message about Krel: >> Knowing how well the "Ad Astra" CD was received, then the new CD >> really should be part of every HW fan's collection And I'll shut up now ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 21 18:52:48 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:52:48 -0000 Subject: HW:OFF-Coleman/Holmes public fight laundry Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: HW:OFF-Coleman/Holmes public fight laundry > I DID LEARN MY LESSON ON THE LAST TIME ... BUT!!!...You were a little > deceptive yourself megood lordship friend of Fernando, as you were feeling > me out for your fair maiden Jilly to move in for the kill....(hi Jill...I > like you still!!) ======================================= Hi Mike That occasion 'Twas on my own behalf! FoFP just told me it existed on Ebay so I made an attempt at it. I pulled out as soon as I realised the seriousness of the other players! cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 21 20:01:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:31:45 +1030 Subject: HW: Where is the Codex? Message-ID: Hawkman disks the link is @ Hawkwind wecome to the future www.hawkwind.com and probably @ mission controll as well hope is a help Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: J D To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 5:02 AM Subject: HW: Where is the Codex? Hi, Keen to verify all the details regarding "odd" HW tracks. So where can I find the Codex? Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 21 20:49:17 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:19:17 +1030 Subject: hawkwind festival Message-ID: more details please Mr flibble is getting very cross his little beady eyes are begining to turn red 8>))) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Feb 22 00:31:26 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:31:26 -0600 Subject: HW: space brock Message-ID: Well, it might be rehashed from other albums, but I'm listening to the mispress of Space Brock, and I quite like it. I know it's primarily a Brock release, but then again, I've liked all of the Brock solo (or mostly solo stuff). ...and, well, Damage of Life just rocks. ...and I can't wait for them to get a good copy of the Astoria out, so I can hear it again. (re: the conversation a few days ago about rehash vs. new studio material.... Well, if they put it out, and it's good, I'll get it. While I like new studio stuff, there is something to be said for new versions of old stuff. Particularly at a concert. But I digress ;-) ) Arin (just a few random thoughts.) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 22 01:32:47 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:02:47 +1030 Subject: HW: space brock Message-ID: > Well, if they put it out, and it's good, I'll get it. While I like > new studio stuff, there is something to be said for new versions of old > stuff. I also love to hear different versions of old material - Motorway city & Psychedelic warlords are two that spring to mind Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 4:01 PM Subject: HW: space brock > Well, it might be rehashed from other albums, but I'm > listening to the mispress of Space Brock, and I quite like it. > > I know it's primarily a Brock release, but then again, I've > liked all of the Brock solo (or mostly solo stuff). > > ...and, well, Damage of Life just rocks. ...and I can't > wait for them to get a good copy of the Astoria out, so > I can hear it again. > > (re: the conversation a few days ago about rehash vs. new studio > material.... > > Well, if they put it out, and it's good, I'll get it. While I like > new studio stuff, there is something to be said for new versions of old > stuff. > > Particularly at a concert. But I digress ;-) ) > > Arin > (just a few random thoughts.) > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Feb 22 02:29:19 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:29:19 -0600 Subject: HW: MONSTER MAGNET/mission control In-Reply-To: <002101c09c99$45ffdf60$77cb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: In response to posts on MM lately...I add my usual unnecessary weirdness: while I am with Andy G, and don't usually pay full attention although I love the guys personalities.....the band just being a bit drastic for my own Spacerock taste.... I have to give respect where it's due...... he (dave w) hit super-rock level in my room just the other day with his lyric from a song on a comp CD from "THE CROW", called "Big God"....where he says something like "no need to suck your thumb so tight, I believe there is room for one more on my tail"....(this makes him rock god) (haha) not to mention his previous stuff about telephone tractorism...definately a satanic drug thing...... I caught the drummer and Ed(isn't it??...long hair dude)...lighting fireworks on the side of the club, back when they had just broke through....they were really really nice, but I unfortunately had my good friend Eric with me, a real alcohol "Beastie Boy"...and they passed their bottle of Jack Daniels to him, and he drank it in one fell swoop (it wasn't full).......they freaked!!! (hahahahahah) so did I!!!! I think I kicked his ass out in the parking lot for something that we don't remember, we were so drunk, but he was beat up, and it must have been me, but we just couldn't figure it out when we got home,,,weird,,,only true memory block I have ever had,,,,,, m PS...the previous post request to the Master of ceremony was directed at the mission control master of ceremony(both MC's)...and it meant that I would like to see more hawkwind members come in for a chat if they are willing.... I really could use a Langton huge, gigantic, poster pin-up, and it would be so cool to be a friend of his...... And surely fun to see Alan, Richard, and cyborg reptile Ron come on at least once in a while...... I'm still DYING to find out if Richard will allow one goon to be on his friendship list.....He saw the real me and it hurt..... m From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Feb 22 03:27:13 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:27:13 +0000 Subject: OFF: quoting messages (was: Monster Magnet - KREL) In-Reply-To: <200102212346.SAA13217@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Missed this previously ... >>> Knowing how well the "Ad Astra" CD was received, then the new CD >>> really should be part of every HW fan's collection The Spiritual Beggars' _Ad Astra_? Or ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Feb 22 03:30:30 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:30:30 +0000 Subject: HW: MONSTER MAGNET/mission control In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 01.29 -0600 22.2.2001, Mike Coleman wrote: >he (dave w) hit super-rock level in my room just the other day with his >lyric from a song on a comp CD from "THE CROW", called "Big God".... That's also on a CD-single from the _Powertrip_ album, though I forget which one. Quite decent track, I thought. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Thu Feb 22 03:33:23 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:33:23 +0000 Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 22.22 +0000 21.2.2001, Andy Gilham wrote: >> Carl, who now has one of his guitars back with him and feels pretty >> good about that :) > >This means I'm going to have to dust off my synth, doesn't it... ;) Mmmm, I'm busy trying to scam some recording software. Come another paycheck, it'll be time to start thinking about a new amp. I'm pretty sure I have a local volunteer drummer ... I think it will take some time to assemble the pieces, so the dust is probably safe on your synth for some months yet, but ... but ... :) In space we trust, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Thu Feb 22 04:13:59 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:13:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet Message-ID: Album is due out in April. A&M / MM have been trying to sort out a suitable tour for the album & MM have been promoting it in Europe and RoW first. Stuart http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Thu Feb 22 05:16:10 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 05:16:10 -0500 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet Message-ID: And don't forget to check out Ed Mundells other band, the thoroughly splendid Atomic Bitchwax at http://www.teepeerecords.com/theatomicbitchwax/index.html Utterly top notch stoner rock, replete with a killer cover of "Play The Game" by Atomic Rooster. Plsu guset appearance by Warren Haynes (who is now apparently back in the ALlman Brothers Band). Rock and roll! Stuart http://www.the-rocker.co.uk From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 22 05:26:47 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:26:47 GMT Subject: HW: space brock In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:31:26 -0600 Message-ID: Arin Komins writes: > Well, it might be rehashed from other albums, but I'm > listening to the mispress of Space Brock, and I quite like it. So what is the difference between the mispress and the actual release? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 22 05:45:47 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:45:47 GMT Subject: Black Sword DVD Message-ID: I've just installed a Pioneer DVD player into the 'puter. Playing the Black Sword video results in extremely low volume, even at max on the DVD player software and upping it in the audio control panel. Can anyone confirm that it's the equipment and not the Black Sword disc itself? Better still, can anyone suggest what the problem might be, or a solution? The setup is: Win 95 550 MHx Pentium system Pioneer U04S SCSI DVD player Fiji soundcard ASUSDVD software player FoFP From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Feb 22 05:54:51 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:54:51 -0000 Subject: quoting messages (was: Monster Magnet - KREL) In-Reply-To: <200102212346.SAA13217@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > [big snip of all that Monster Magnet stuff that was of interest to Andy > Gilham but not Andy Garibaldi - oh, those snips are so nice!] Huh? I quite like MM, they're fun live, but I don't feel the need to own any more of their albums... and I haven't really been following this thread either!!! -- Andy www.andygilham.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 22 06:24:52 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:24:52 EDT Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet In-Reply-To: <200102220913.EAA15046@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 22 Feb 2001, at 4:13, Zeitgeist wrote: > Album is due out in April. A&M / MM have been trying to sort out a > suitable tour for the album & MM have been promoting it in Europe and > RoW first. > I hope that tour thoroughly covers the northeast. I've never seen MM live, and can't wait... theo theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 22 06:26:20 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:26:20 EDT Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet In-Reply-To: <200102221016.FAA15211@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 22 Feb 2001, at 5:16, Zeitgeist wrote: > And don't forget to check out Ed Mundells other band, the thoroughly > splendid Atomic Bitchwax at > http://www.teepeerecords.com/theatomicbitchwax/index.html > > Utterly top notch stoner rock, replete with a killer cover of "Play > The Game" by Atomic Rooster. Plsu guset appearance by Warren Haynes > (who is now apparently back in the ALlman Brothers Band). Rock and > roll! > > Stuart > http://www.the-rocker.co.uk Does anyone know the website that's sort of a clearinghouse for stoner rock? It was mentioned in a Guitar World article last fall, but I can't find it [heh, heh]... theo theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 22 06:28:28 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:28:28 EDT Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet In-Reply-To: <200102221016.FAA15211@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 22 Feb 2001, at 5:16, Zeitgeist wrote: Plsu guset appearance by Warren Haynes > (who is now apparently back in the ALlman Brothers Band). No kidding? Is it Warren and Jimmy Herring, or has Dickie done enough pennance and now back in ABB? theo theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 22 07:50:55 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:20:55 +1030 Subject: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix Message-ID: Hey - anyone ou there ever read the Fab. Freak Brothers? I found the sight where I can order the whole set for $45 I used to have them years ago Hee hee good stuff Mb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 22 06:55:38 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:55:38 EDT Subject: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix In-Reply-To: <001401c09cce$18e17a40$d2d0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On 22 Feb 2001, at 23:20, Michael W Blackman wrote: > Hey - anyone ou there ever read the Fab. Freak Brothers? > Hell yeah! Still have a couple in the archives, and some Zaps and bents and who knows what-all else... theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Feb 22 07:53:49 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:53:49 +0000 Subject: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix Message-ID: I've never heard of the Freak Brothers. What's it? Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 02/22/01 12:50pm >>> Hey - anyone ou there ever read the Fab. Freak Brothers? I found the sight where I can order the whole set for $45 I used to have them years ago Hee hee good stuff Mb From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 22 08:19:10 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:49:10 +1030 Subject: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix Message-ID: Its a really cool comic series about three hippies and the cat and their adventures - really funny stuff http://www.ripoffpress.com/ check it out Michael Blackman ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 11:23 PM Subject: Re: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix > I've never heard of the Freak Brothers. > > What's it? > > Layla > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 02/22/01 12:50pm >>> > Hey - anyone ou there ever read the Fab. Freak Brothers? > > I found the sight where I can order the whole set for $45 > > I used to have them years ago > > Hee hee good stuff > > Mb From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Feb 22 09:10:22 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:10:22 GMT Subject: BRAIN/BOC: Helen Wheels tribute news Message-ID: >From www.cellsum.com: Many artists have been contributing to the Helen Wheels Tribute album. Buck Dharma recorded one lead vocal and several overdub guitar tracks as well as recording basics with the Bouchard Brothers. Crispin Cioe blessed us with some fine horn parts. Scott "Top Ten" Kempner recorded a new track. Jack Secret sang a couple powerful lead vocals. Ross the Boss recorded one fantastic lead guitar part and the Brain Surgeons recorded four new songs. Felice Rosser is a great singer who has sung on Brain Surgeons albums as well as the new Helen Wheels Tribute. Check out Felice's band Faith. Adny Shernoff and Tish and Snookie contributed solid backing vocals. Sandy Roeser recorded an inspiring lead vocal for one of Helen's songs. Helen's band from Ithaca, Static Cling, recorded a track of the last song Helen wrote. And brother Joe Bouchard recorded a great new version of "Fallen Angel" with Alice Cooper alumni Neal Smith and Dennis Dunaway. We're still planning on a Spring 2001 release date --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Feb 22 09:23:26 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:23:26 GMT Subject: BOC: A BOC BOOK!!! Message-ID: >From rockcritics.com interview with martin popoff: Blue Oyster Cult Explained (est. Q4 2000: self-publishing) does this make 2001: the most new product-filled year in BOC's existence? YAY J --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Feb 22 09:28:07 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:28:07 GMT Subject: BOC: A BOC BOOK!!! Message-ID: > >From rockcritics.com interview with martin popoff: > > Blue Oyster Cult Explained (est. Q4 2000: self-publishing) from martinpopoff.com: i'd also like to get the 110 pages of truly fascinating info I've amassed on Blue Oyster Cult finally dusted off and put into (self-published) book form. My pie-in-the-sky plan is to print this at the same time as The NWOBHM singles. I'll likely just do 500 of each to start. This BOC thing won't exactly be a bio, more like detailed analysis of each album, including pretty much each and every song, including critical blathering by me, but mostly explanations culled from the many interviews I've done with the band. One other thing I've started and left idle is a reviews book of all the Yes albums and the members' solo albums. Yeah, alright, alright, I'll get to it. > does this make 2001: the most new product-filled year in BOC's existence? Maybe :) Jason --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 22 13:58:10 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:58:10 -0500 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet Message-ID: Theo asked... >Does anyone know the website that's sort of a clearinghouse for >stoner rock? It was mentioned in a Guitar World article last fall, but >I can't find it [heh, heh]... www.meteorcity.com? Grakkl (FAA) From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Feb 22 14:17:11 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:17:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL Message-ID: > > > That hasn't been released in the US has it? What's the verdict on it? > > theo Count me in the major thumbs up too Ted. This thing is fantastic. I too got it lock stock and barrel off of Napster (though I won't miss Napster) I will buy it when it comes out in the US. I love how they use keyboards/mellotron in the album (yes I still call it an album). Mike H Troy NY -- "It is a good thing to follow the first law of holes; if you are in one stop digging. " -- Denis Healey From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 22 13:17:46 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:17:46 EDT Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet In-Reply-To: <200102221908.OAA02500@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On 22 Feb 2001, at 13:58, K Henderson wrote: > Theo asked... > > >Does anyone know the website that's sort of a clearinghouse for > >stoner rock? It was mentioned in a Guitar World article last fall, > >but I can't find it [heh, heh]... > > www.meteorcity.com? > No, that's not it, but I am enjoying it right now. Thanks for the link... theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 22 13:30:23 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:30:23 EDT Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL In-Reply-To: <3A9565B7.2010003@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: On 22 Feb 2001, at 14:17, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > I love how they use keyboards/mellotron in the album (yes I still call > it an album). I've never understood why 'album' ceased being used with the advent of the CD. Album only means a collection of things, like a photo album, after all. So keep right on calling them that! BTW, Mike, isn't some other stoner band playing Northern Lights this week or next? theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Feb 22 16:00:28 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:00:28 -0500 Subject: BRAIN/BOC: Helen Wheels tribute news In-Reply-To: <200102221410.f1MEAM001576@shell.acmenet.net> Message-ID: Jason wrote: > From www.cellsum.com: [...] > Helen's band from Ithaca, > Static > Cling, recorded a track of the last song Helen wrote. Static Cling rocked when they played as Helen's "Skeleton Crew." They had tons of energy and attitude and some great "garagey" guitar. I wonder if there are any tapes around of their gigs together? > And brother Joe Bouchard > recorded a great new version of "Fallen Angel" with Alice Cooper alumni Neal > Smith and Dennis Dunaway. Ooooh...that's going to be good. I can't wait to hear the album. Brian obCD> Cultosaurus Erectus! From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Feb 22 16:16:55 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:16:55 -0500 Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL Message-ID: Ted Jackson wrote: > On 22 Feb 2001, at 14:17, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > >> I love how they use keyboards/mellotron in the album (yes I still call >> it an album). > > > I've never understood why 'album' ceased being used with the advent > of the CD. Album only means a collection of things, like a photo > album, after all. So keep right on calling them that! BTW, Mike, > isn't some other stoner band playing Northern Lights this week or > next? > > theo > > xxxxxxxxx > > "Wherever you go, there you are." > --B. Banzai > No one interesting Friday the 23rd is Conehead Buddah Sat the 24th is a Metallica "tribute" band Fri the 2nd is Orgy Sat the 3rd is a Kiss "tribute" band. Not sure if anyone is playing on any other days. I just called them.... Mike H. -- "It is a good thing to follow the first law of holes; if you are in one stop digging. 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I love the spoken sample at the beginning and would be interested to find out where(what film) Dave Brock got it from. mel From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Feb 22 16:43:26 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:43:26 GMT Subject: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix Message-ID: If I remember correctly - without digging out my vinyl, the Freak brothers get a mention in the credits of 'In search of Space' under 'Good Vibes and Goodies' Mick > Its a really cool comic series about three hippies and the cat and their >adventures - really funny stuff > >http://www.ripoffpress.com/ > >check it out > >Michael Blackman > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Layla Thompson >To: >Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 11:23 PM >Subject: Re: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix > > > I've never heard of the Freak Brothers. > > What's it? > > Layla > > > michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 02/22/01 12:50pm > > Hey - anyone ou there ever read the Fab. Freak Brothers? > > I found the sight where I can order the whole set for $45 > > I used to have them years ago > > Hee hee good stuff > > Mb May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 22 16:46:43 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:46:43 EST Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet/Allmans Message-ID: In a message dated 2/22/01 7:29:07 AM, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: << No kidding? Is it Warren and Jimmy Herring, or has Dickie done enough pennance and now back in ABB? theo >> The current guitar team is at this moment Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks at least until the end of March and then???? Eli From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Feb 22 18:06:33 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:06:33 -0600 Subject: HW: space brock In-Reply-To: <200102221026.KAA19334@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, M Holmes wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: space brock : :Arin Komins writes: : :> Well, it might be rehashed from other albums, but I'm :> listening to the mispress of Space Brock, and I quite like it. : :So what is the difference between the mispress and the actual release? Mike, See: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0102c&L=boc-l&F=&S=&P=12011 (was posted last week, and since I haven't cross-compared the two ;-) ) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From hw at CY-B.ORG Thu Feb 22 18:16:50 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:16:50 -0500 Subject: HW: Tour Updates Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS Tour Info Updated on Mission Control >Updates www.hawkwind.org.uk Also, xmas T-Shirt competition submission gallery is online - follow HAWKXMAS FEEDBACK link from updates........ ++MESSAGE ENDS From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Feb 22 17:41:24 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:41:24 -0000 Subject: HW: space brock Message-ID: Hi, Dunno, having never seen the correct one. See my previous e-mail for detail of mispressing though. Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 10:26 AM Subject: Re: HW: space brock > Arin Komins writes: > > > Well, it might be rehashed from other albums, but I'm > > listening to the mispress of Space Brock, and I quite like it. > > So what is the difference between the mispress and the actual release? > > FoFP > From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Feb 22 18:03:50 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:03:50 -0000 Subject: HW: Codex - phew Message-ID: Hi, Just spend the best part of 2 hours combing the Codex in some detail. Whilst it's answered loads of questions for me, it's also raised even more, so can anyone answer of the following for me please. 1. Is The Golden Void merely a vinyl copy of the Glasgow 82 BBC show? 2. Is The Cyberspace Conspiracy a vinyl or CD bootleg of Bedrock (Nottingham 90)? If so is it from the TV or video (which I believe had Wind Of Change as an extra track)? 3. Is the Theta Orionis bootleg of a gig or a mish-mash of rare tracks? 4. Strange Daze 97 - is this a compilation of bands, if so, what's the HW tracks? 5. Is Burn Me Up from Elf & Hawk the same as the Brockspace song? 6. I'm confused with the various releases of Live Chronicles. I've got the first GWR CD release which is the same as the vinyl, but is the double the one with the pink/orange/white Elric sleeve? And what's the version with the bonus CD all about? 7. Is the track on Xenon EMG or EMC (and what does it mean?)? 8. Strange Daze 98 (see point 4 above) 9 Is Love In Space the only HW track on Wir Sind Der Kinder? 10. What unique stuff is on Ambient Anarchists? 11. Can anybody run me off a copy of the first cassette release of Weird 105 (with Paranoia). I should have made a note as I was going through it, but I notice that there are a handful of tracks (4 or 5) that have never made it onto CD - stuff like Zones, Processed, Raping Robots, When The Going Gets Tough etc. As for the Codex itself, an absolutely magnificent document incorporating humungus amounts of time & effort. Had Mike & Jill not done this, then HW fans would be even more in the dark and totally confused about releases than we already are! Keep up the good work. Will the Weird CDs be added (Doug Pearson did a fine job of analysing them)? Presumably Family Tree & Brockspace & Atomhenge will also be added? It would be a great shame to let things slip having kept on top of releases thus far. Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Feb 22 18:45:55 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:45:55 -0000 Subject: BOC: Me 262, Prince of turbojets Message-ID: Well, I can't find it on line, but it was in todays' Times... apparently the Me 262 was the first plane to break the sound barrier. This old guy, Hans Guido something, he's 79 now, was an Me 262 pilot, and he made a screaming dive to join a dogfight and his speedo jammed at 1100 kph, and rivets started flying out of his wings etc... Can anyone find something on line to back this up? -- Andy www.andygilham.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Feb 22 18:54:12 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:54:12 -0600 Subject: HW: Codex -some quick answers JD In-Reply-To: <007501c09d28$26222b00$cb17883e@jezd> Message-ID: > Hi, Just spend the best part of 2 hours combing the Codex in some >detail. Whilst it's answered loads of questions for me, it's also raised >even more, so can anyone answer of the following for me please. 1. Is >The Golden Void merely a vinyl copy of the Glasgow 82 BBC show? YES!! 2. >Is The Cyberspace Conspiracy a vinyl or CD bootleg of Bedrock (Nottingham >90)(vinyl WANT ONE??) ? If so is it from the TV or video(VIDEO!) (which >I believe had Wind Of Change as an extra track)? 3. Is the Theta Orionis >bootleg of a gig or a mish-mash of rare tracks?(MISH MASH) 4. Strange >Daze 97 - is this a compilation of bands, if so, what's the HW >tracks?(NOT IN FRONT OF ME-JIM LASCKO??) 5. Is Burn Me Up from Elf & Hawk >the same as the Brockspace song?(YES BUT DIFFERENT) 6. I'm confused with >the various releases of Live Chronicles. I've got the first GWR CD >release which is the same as the vinyl, but is the double the one with the >pink/orange/white Elric   sleeve?(YES..INCLUDING MOORCOCK POEMS) >And what's the version with the bonus CD all about?(THE BONUS IS >MISHMASH-NOTHING NEW) 7. Is the track on Xenon EMG or EMC (and what does >it mean?)(SECONDED-GOOD QUESTION)? 8. Strange Daze 98(THIS WASN'T PUT OUT >OFFICIALLY) (see point 4 above) 9 Is Love In Space the only HW track on >Wir Sind Der Kinder?(YES)( 10. What unique stuff is on Ambient >Anarchists?(NOTHING REALLY-RCA TRACKS THOUGH) 11. Can anybody run me off a >copy of the first cassette release of Weird 105 (with Paranoia)(ME TOO). >I should have made a note as I was going through it, but I notice that >there are a handful of tracks (4 or 5) that have never made it onto CD - >stuff like Zones, Processed, Raping Robots, When The Going Gets Tough >etc. As for the Codex itself, an absolutely magnificent document >incorporating humungus amounts of time & effort. Had Mike & Jill not >done this, then HW fans would be even more in the dark and totally >confused about releases than we already are! Keep up the good work. Will >the Weird CDs be added (Doug Pearson did a fine job of analysing them)? >Presumably Family Tree & Brockspace & Atomhenge will also be added? It >would be a great shame to let things slip having kept on top of releases >thus far. Jez also...mike Holmes post of fictitious conversation between Rich. and Dave hilarious.....m From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Feb 22 19:13:44 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:13:44 +0000 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet In-Reply-To: <200102221016.FAA15211@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: At 05.16 -0500 22.2.2001, Zeitgeist wrote: >And don't forget to check out Ed Mundells other band, the thoroughly >splendid Atomic Bitchwax at >http://www.teepeerecords.com/theatomicbitchwax/index.html > >Utterly top notch stoner rock, replete with a killer cover of "Play The >Game" by Atomic Rooster. Plsu guset appearance by Warren Haynes (who is >now apparently back in the ALlman Brothers Band). Rock and roll! What!!?? Madness! Still, i suppose he needs a paycheck. The ABB may do good live shows, but, mmm, have singularly lacked new material since Warren and Allen's departure ... But, well, damn, if Warren is on the Atomic Bitchwax, then that's the last excuse I needed to get their recordings! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Feb 22 19:53:48 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:53:48 -0500 Subject: HW: Codex - phew Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:03:50 -0000, J D wrote: >4. Strange Daze 97 - is this a compilation of bands, if so, what's the HW >tracks? Don't have the CD in front of me, but I think there's about 4-5 Hawkwind tracks, all of which are ones that have appeared on other live albums (I think even other live albums with the same lineup - IYA & HW97). It *does* have the only officially-released recording with both Brock & Turner since 'This Is Hawkwind: Do Not Panic' & 'Out & Intake' in the mid-80s. >7. Is the track on Xenon EMG or EMC Of this, I'm not sure. >(and what does it mean?)? EMC - no idea EMG - brand of guitar pickups >I should have made a note as I was going through it, but I notice that >there are a handful of tracks (4 or 5) that have never made it onto CD - >stuff like Zones, Processed, Raping Robots, When The Going Gets Tough etc. Aren't those all Brock solo tracks? There's a few more that haven't made it to CD (I mentioned the Charisma-era single edits in a recent message, but the unavailability of that era's albums is UTTERLY CRIMINAL, imho). >Will the Weird CDs be added (Doug Pearson did a fine job of >analysing them)? Thanks! I hope so, since I'd hate to see my efforts go to waste ;^) (especially since my research turned up a couple of minor errors in the Codex). >Presumably Family Tree & Brockspace & Atomhenge will also be added? And the other Collectors Series live albums, too (Complete 79, Masques Live, Glastonbury 90)? But (I would presume), only the Hawkwind tracks, not solo recordings by Brock or other members. >It would be a great shame to let things slip having kept on top of >releases thus far. Agreed, but doing the Weird CD's analysis really showed how much work is involved (okay, let's see if the same bit of microphone feedback occurs at the same point in these two different live versions of "Spirit of the Age"? It does? Must be the same; now let's compare versions of "Robot" ...) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Feb 22 21:49:13 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:49:13 -0700 Subject: HW: Codex -some quick answers JD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Some clarifications: 4. On the untracklisted Disc 2 is Introduction/Kauai, Assassins of Allah/Space Is Their (Palestine) and Brainstorm/Hawkwind In Your Area. A fantastic compilation of American Space Rock; if you don't have it, you need it (from Jim Lascko: http://www.strange-trips.com/docs/merchandise.html ) 7. The track is 'EMC' and perhaps only Harvey knows what it means.... 8. "THIS WASN'T PUT OUT OFFICIALLY" means that no record company made money on it (actually no one did, and in fact like most things surrounding Strange Daze, fans' money was lost), but had the blessing of all bands on it. The Hawkwind track on it is 'Starfire Mountain Dreaming' 10. Actually the version of 'Love In Space' on it is unique - it's the guitar-drenched live version from the VH-1 appearance, my favorite version of all! KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Mike Coleman Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 4:54 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Codex -some quick answers JD > Hi, Just spend the best part of 2 hours combing the Codex in some >detail. Whilst it's answered loads of questions for me, it's also raised >even more, so can anyone answer of the following for me please. 1. Is >The Golden Void merely a vinyl copy of the Glasgow 82 BBC show? YES!! 2. >Is The Cyberspace Conspiracy a vinyl or CD bootleg of Bedrock (Nottingham >90)(vinyl WANT ONE??) ? If so is it from the TV or video(VIDEO!) (which >I believe had Wind Of Change as an extra track)? 3. Is the Theta Orionis >bootleg of a gig or a mish-mash of rare tracks?(MISH MASH) 4. Strange >Daze 97 - is this a compilation of bands, if so, what's the HW >tracks?(NOT IN FRONT OF ME-JIM LASCKO??) 5. Is Burn Me Up from Elf & Hawk >the same as the Brockspace song?(YES BUT DIFFERENT) 6. I'm confused with >the various releases of Live Chronicles. I've got the first GWR CD >release which is the same as the vinyl, but is the double the one with the >pink/orange/white Elric   sleeve?(YES..INCLUDING MOORCOCK POEMS) >And what's the version with the bonus CD all about?(THE BONUS IS >MISHMASH-NOTHING NEW) 7. Is the track on Xenon EMG or EMC (and what does >it mean?)(SECONDED-GOOD QUESTION)? 8. Strange Daze 98(THIS WASN'T PUT OUT >OFFICIALLY) (see point 4 above) 9 Is Love In Space the only HW track on >Wir Sind Der Kinder?(YES)( 10. What unique stuff is on Ambient >Anarchists?(NOTHING REALLY-RCA TRACKS THOUGH) 11. Can anybody run me off a >copy of the first cassette release of Weird 105 (with Paranoia)(ME TOO). >I should have made a note as I was going through it, but I notice that >there are a handful of tracks (4 or 5) that have never made it onto CD - >stuff like Zones, Processed, Raping Robots, When The Going Gets Tough >etc. As for the Codex itself, an absolutely magnificent document >incorporating humungus amounts of time & effort. Had Mike & Jill not >done this, then HW fans would be even more in the dark and totally >confused about releases than we already are! Keep up the good work. Will >the Weird CDs be added (Doug Pearson did a fine job of analysing them)? >Presumably Family Tree & Brockspace & Atomhenge will also be added? It >would be a great shame to let things slip having kept on top of releases >thus far. Jez also...mike Holmes post of fictitious conversation between Rich. and Dave hilarious.....m From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 22 22:49:45 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:49:45 +0800 Subject: Fw: HW Odd HW Tracks - Hawkwind codex ex M Holmes Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 8:20 PM Subject: Hawkwind codex > I've still to do some late 2000 stuff but this is the most up to date > copy currently available. > > FoFP (Keeoer of the Codex) > > The Hawkwind Codex: Version 4.5 3/8/2000 > ========================================= > > (C) April 1993 by Mike Holmes and Jill Strobridge > > > Key: Tracks are listed by name. > Different versions of tracks are listed by number and by the > albums which feature them. > An attempt has been made to arrange the numbered versions > chronologically. > Where one version of a track is derived from, or very similar to > another this is indicated by an alphabetic character. > Where tracks have a different title on a particular album, this is > indicated by enclosing the title in curly brackets. > Where a track appears only on a particular medium, this is > indicated in square brackets. > Where tracks are live, this is indicated by an "L". > Other notes are indicated by asterisks. > > > > > 3 or 4 Erections in the Course of a Night > 1 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > 25 Years > 1 Hawklords > 1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > 2 25 Years/ PXR5/ Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid 12" EP > 2 25 Years/Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid 7" > 2 Repeat Performance > 2 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 2 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > 2 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 3 The Hawklords Live > 5/4 > 1 Out And Intake > A Day > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > 1 The Agents of Chaos LP > > * This contains Nocturne and the lyrics from Treadmill > > Abducted > 1 Alien4 > 1 The Ambient Anarchists > L 2 Love In Space > Acid Test > SEE: Dream Worker > Adjust Me > 1 X In Search Of Space > 1 (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > Aerospaceage Inferno > L 1 Hawkwind 1997 > L 2 In Your Area > The Age Of The Micro Man > 1 Hawklords > L 2 Weird 104 - Hawklords/Hawkwind Live 1978 {Micro Man} > Alchemy > 1 Distant Horizons > L 2 Hawkwind 1997 > L 3 In Your Area > Alien (I Am) > 1 Alien4 > 1 a Area S4 EP > 1 a Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > L 2 Love In Space > > * 1a is an edit of 1 > Aliens > SEE: Alien (I Am) > Altair > SEE: Wave Upon Wave > Am I Fooling > 1 White Zone > Announcements > L 1 Greasy Truckers {unlisted} > L 1 Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 {unlisted} > L 1 Assassins of Allah {unlisted} > L 1 Dawn of Hawkwind CD > Angel Voices > 1 Angels of Death > 1 Church of Hawkwind > Angels Of Death > L 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock {Angels of Life} > L 1 British Tribal Music > L 1 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II > L 1 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 1 Acid Daze Vol. II > L 1 The Hawkwind Collection > L 1 Ironstrike > L 1 Masters of The Universe [Marble Arch Rock CD] > L 1 Night Riding > L 1 Silver Machine Live 12" EP > L 1 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > L 1 Best of Hawkwind > L 1 Space Is Deep > L 1 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > L 1 Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] > L 1 Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > L 2 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic > L 2 Independent Days, Vol. II > L 2 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD > L 2 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) > L 2 The Stonehenge Collection > L 3 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette] > 4 Sonic Attack > 4 Angels of Death > 4 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 4 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > 4 a Angels of Death/ Trans Dimensional Man 7" > 4 a Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > L 5 The Golden Void > L 5 a Live 1982 > L 6 Orgasmatron > L 7 Live Chronicles > L 7 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 8 Live At Reading '86 > L 9 Undisclosed Files > L 9 The Emergency Broadcast System Samples > L 10 Glastonbury 90 > > * 4a is a cut of 4 > * 5a is from the same tour as 5 > > Angels of Life > SEE: Angels of Death > Are You Losing Your Mind? > SEE: The Iron Dream > Arioch > 1 Independent Days, Vol. II > 1 Needle Gun 12" EP > 1 Needle Gun/ Arioch 7" > 1 The Chronicle Of The Black Sword [Flicknife and Griffin CD only] > Arrival In Utopia > 1 Choose Your Masques > 1 Angels of Death > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 2 Live 1982 > L 3 Live At Reading '86 {Utopia} > L 4 The Cyberspace Conspiracy > L 5 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > Assassin (Magick Carpet Mix) > 1 Decide Your Future > > * 1 is a mix done by Swordfish/Astralasia > > Assassination > 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins {The Dream I;Assassination;The Dream II} > 2 Church of Hawkwind {Some People Never Die} > 2 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > 2 Earthed to the Ground > 2 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology {Some People Never Die} > > * 2 is based on demo version 1 > > Assassins of Allah > SEE: Hassan I Sabha > Assault And Battery > 1 Warrior On The Edge Of Time > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 Hawkwind Mind Journey > L 3 Zarozinia/ Assault and Battery 7" > L 3 Zarozinia 12" EP > L 3 Independent Days, Vol. II > L 3 The Chronicle Of The Black Sword [Flicknife CD only] > L 3 Live Chronicles [2CD set only] > L 4 Live At Reading '86 > L 5 The Cyberspace Conspiracy > L 6 Palace Springs {Lives of Great Men} > L 6 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus comp. CD] {Lives of Great Men} > L 6 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 7 Rock City {misnamed track: SEE Letting in the Past} > > * This track appears both on Live Chronicles and on the bonus > compilation CD accompanying the Castle release > > The Aubergine That Ate Rangoon > 1 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music > Automation > 1 Hawklords > L 2 Hawklords Live 1978 > Avante > 1 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > L 2 Rock City CD > The Awakening > L 1 Space Ritual Alive > L 1 Stasis CD > L 2 The 1999 Party > 3 In Your Area {First Landing on Medusa} > > * This track was misnamed on In Your Area > * See also: Over The Top > > > Back in the Box > L 1 Palace Springs > L 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 2 Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] > L 3 The Never Ending Story of The Psychedelic Warlords > L 3 a California Brainstorm > > * Lyrics borrowed from "In The Office" and "Words of a Song" > * Versions 3 and 3a are from the same tour > > Back on the Streets > 1 Back on the Streets/ The Dream of Isis 7" > 1 Repeat Performance > 1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music [Griffin CD] > 1 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures > L 3 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 > Bay of Bengal > 1 White Zone > Beam Me Up > 1 Alien4 > Berlin Axis > 1 Strange Trips and Pipe Dreams {Gateway} > L 1 a The Business Trip > > * Version 1a appeared first on album and is an edit of 1 > with added audience noise and acoustic guitar ending > > Be Yourself > 1 Hawkwind > L 2 The Text of Festival LP {Improvise, Comprise, Reprise} > The Black Corridor > L 1 BBC Transcription Disc LP > L 1 Space Rock From London > L 1 a BBC Radio - Live in Concert CD > L 2 Space Ritual Alive > L 2 Stasis > > * 1a is a remix of 1 > > Black Elk Speaks > 1 Space Bandits > 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 Glastonbury 90 {Magic of the Earth} > Black Sun > 1 Quark Strangeness and Charm CD single > Blue Dreamer > SEE: Dream Worker > Blue Shift > 1 Electric Teepee > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 2 The Never Ending Story of The Psychedelic Warlords > L 3 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > Blue Skin > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD set] {I Am The Eye That Looks Within} > 2 Alien4 > L 3 Love In Space > L 4 Hawkwind 1997 > Bombed Out > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > Born To Go > L 1 Greasy Trucker's Party > L 1 Assassins of Allah LP > L 1 Dawn of Hawkwind CD > L 1 Space Ritual Alive [remastered CD only] > L 1 a Lord of Light/ Born to Go 7" > L 1 a Silver Machine/7 by 7/Lord of Light/Born to Go German double 7" EP > L 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II CD > L 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 1 a Acid Daze Vol. III > L 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. III LP > L 1 a The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind > L 1 a The Early Years Live EP > L 1 a Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 1 a The Hawkwind Collection > L 1 a Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > L 1 a Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 > L 1 a Best of Hawkwind > L 1 a X In Search of Space [remastered CD only] > L 1 a Live & Rare (Onward Flies the Bird) > L 1 a Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > L 1 a Sonic Boom Killers > L 2 BBC Transcription Disc LP > L 2 Space Rock from London > L 2 a BBC Radio - Live In Concert CD > L 3 Space Ritual Alive > L 3 Stasis CD > L 3 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > > * 1a is cut version of 1 > * versions 1 and 3 both feature on remastered Space Ritual Alive 2CD > * 2a is a remix of 2 > > Bosnia > SEE: Death Of War > Bottle Up > 1 Dawn of Hawkwind [Voiceprint CD] > > Brainbox Pollution > L 1 The 1999 Party > 2 Stasis > 2 Urban Guerilla/ Brainbox Pollution 7" > 2 (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > 2 Doremi Fasol Latido [remastered CD only] > 2 Sonic Boom Killers > 2 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > Brainstorm > 1 Doremi Fasol Latido > 1 Masters of the Universe [UA Compilation] > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 BBC Transcription Disc - The Brian Matthews Show > L 2 Dawn of Hawkwind > L 3 BBC Transcription Disc LP > L 3 Space Rock from London > L 3 a BBC Radio - Live In Concert CD > L 4 Space Ritual Alive > L 4 (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > L 5 Space Ritual II > L 5 Ridicule > L 5 Hawkwind Live [Imtrat] > L 5 Hawkwind: The Masters > L 5 Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 6 The 1999 Party > L 7 Acid Daze Vol II {Watchfield Festival} > L 7 Hawkwind Anthology Vol.II {Watchfield Festival} > L 7 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] {Watchfield Festival} > L 8 Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures > L 9 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 [Second release of tape only] > L 10 Hawkwind Live at the Bottom Line > L 11 Live '79 > L 11 Ironstrike > L 11 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > L 11 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 11 a The Complete '79 > L 12 Live 1982 > 13 Zones > 13 Zones/Stonehenge CD > 13 The Stonehenge Collection > L 14 Orgasmatron > L 15 Live Chronicles {Wizards of Pan Tang} > L 16 Live At Reading '86 > L 17 Chronicle of the Black Sword [Dojo & Griffin CD]{Voice Inside My Head} > L 18 Traveller's Aid Trust > L 19 Glastonbury 90 > L 20 California Brainstorm > L 21 Strange Daze '97 > L 22 Hawkwind 1997 > L 23 In Your Area > > * 3a is a remix of 3 > * Versions 4 and 5 are from the same tour > * Version 7 contains just the intro at the end of a jam > * 11a is from the same tour as 11 > * Version 15 is the middle of Brainstorm with extra lyrics overlaid > > Bring It On Home > 1 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. III LP > 1 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > 1 Acid Daze Vol. III > 1 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 > 1 The Hawkwind Collection > 1 Night Riding > 1 Space Is Deep > 1 Hawkwind [remastered CD only] > 1 Dawn of Hawkwind [Voiceprint CD] > > * version 1 is identical to the one originally issued on > the "Buskers" compilation album > > British Tribal Music > 1 The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind > 1 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I > 1 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > 1 Acid Daze Vol. I > 1 Best of Hawkwind > 1 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > 1 Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > 1a Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] > 1a Castle Masters Collection > 1a British Tribal Music > > * version 1a starts with an explosion that properly > belongs to the end of a previous track (SEE High Rise) > > Burn Me Up > 1 The Elf and The Hawk > Cajun Jinx > 1 Out And Intake > 1 Night of the Hawk CD > Cake Out > L 1 The Hawkwind Collection {Hash Cake '77} > L 1 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II {Hash Cake '77} > L 1 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] {Hash Cake '77} > L 1 Acid Daze Vol. II {Hash Cake '77} > L 1 Space Is Deep {Hash Cake} > L 1 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) {Hash Cake '77} > L 1 a Weird 103 - Free Festivals > L 1 a Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield > L 1 a Castle Masters Collection {Hash Cake '77} > L 1 a Best of Hawkwind {Hash Cake '77} > L 1 a Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] {Hash Cake} > L 1 a Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] {Hash Cake '77} > > * 1a is a cut of 1 without the intro > > Came Home > L 1 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. III LP > L 1 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 1 Acid Daze Vol. III > L 1 Castle Masters Collection > L 1 Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 > > * this track is listed on In the Beginning LP and CD (also > issued as Masters of the Universe CD) and Text of Festival LP > and CD but does not exist on either. > > The Camera That Could Lie > SEE: Processed > Chaos Army > 1 The Chronicle Of The Black Sword > Children Of The Sun > 1 X In Search Of Space > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > Choose Your Masks > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > L 2 Live 1982 {Choose Your Masques} > 3 Choose Your Masques > 3 Angels of Death > 3 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 4 The Golden Void > L 5 Live Chronicles > L 5 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] > > * This track appears both on Live Chronicles and on the bonus > compilation CD accompanying the Castle release > > The Chronicle of the Black Sword > L 1 Live Chronicles [2CD set only] > > * version 1 is a narration > > Chronoglide Skyway > 1 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music > 2 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976/77 > The Church > 1 Church of Hawkwind > Circles > SEE: The Fifth Second of Forever > City Of Lagoons > 1 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music > Clouded Vision > 1 Distant Horizons > Coded Languages > 1 Sonic Attack > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 The Golden Void > 2 a Out And Intake CD > L 2 b Live 1982 > L 3 Undisclosed Files [LP Only] > L 3 a Undisclosed Files [CD Only] > L 3 a The Emergency Broadcast System Samples > > * 2a and 2b are from the same tour as 2 > * 3 and 3a are from the same tour > * EBSS version doesn't have the talk intro > > Come On > 1 Dawn of Hawkwind [Voiceprint CD] > Confrontation > 1 Out And Intake > 1 Night Of The Hawk > 1 The Ambient Anarchists > Conjuration Of Magnu > L 1 Live Chronicles > Countdown > L 1 BBC Transcription Disc LP > L 1 Hawkfan 12" > L 1 Space Rock From London > L 1 The Elf and The Hawk > L 1 a BBC Radio - Live In Concert CD > > * 1a is a remix of 1 > > Cymbaline > 1 Hawkwind [remastered CD only] > 1 Dawn of Hawkwind [Voiceprint CD] > > * this track is a cover of the original Pink Floyd track > > D-Rider > L 1 The 1999 Party > 2 Hall Of The Mountain Grill > 2 a Psychedelic Warlords/Hall of the Mountain Grill/D-Rider/Wind of Change US EP > > * 2a is an edit of 2 > > Damage of Life > 1 Traveller's Aid Trust > 2 Church of Hawkwind [CD only] > > * 2 is a studio edit and remix of 1 > > Damnation Alley > 1 Quark Strangeness And Charm > 1 Rock On - with Hawkwind and Van Der Graaf Generator > 1 a Hassan I Sabha/Damnation Alley Part 2 Italian 7" > L 2 Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield > L 2 Weird 103 - Free Festivals > L 3 The Cyberspace Conspiracy > L 4 Palace Springs > L 4 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > > * 1a is a cut from the last part of 1 > > Damned By The Curse of Man > L 1 Undisclosed Files > Dangerous Vision > 1 Zones > 1 Zones/Stonehenge CD > 1 The Stonehenge Collection > The Dark Lords > L 1 Live Chronicles > Dawn/Sunrise > L 1 Dawn of Hawkwind CD > A Day > 1 The Agents of Chaos > 1 Dave Brock & The Agents of Chaos CD > The Day A Wall Came Down > L 1 The Business Trip > Days Of The Underground > 1 Quark Strangeness And Charm > 1 Rock On - with Hawkwind and Van Der Graaf Generator > Dead God's Homecoming > L 1 Live Chronicles [2CD set only] > > * version 1 is a narration > > Dealing With The Devil > 1 Dawn of Hawkwind [Voiceprint CD] > L 2 * Dawn of Hawkwind [Voiceprint CD] {Diamond Ring} > 3 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > 3 Castle Masters Collection > 3 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. III LP > 3 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > 3 Acid Daze Vol. III > 3 The Hawkwind Collection > 3 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 > 3 Best of Hawkwind > 3 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > 3 Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > > * 2 includes a voiceover intro by Dave Brock > * This track appears twice on the Dawn of Hawkwind CD > > Death of War > 1 Electric Teepee > 2 Strange Trips And Pipe Dreams {Bosnia} > Death Trap > L 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock > L 1 Sonic Assassins 12" EP > L 1 Victoria double album > L 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 > L 1 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > 2 PXR5 > 2 Psi Power/ Deathtrap 7" > 2 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 3 Weird 104 - Hawklords/Hawkwind Live 1978 > L 3 a The Hawklords Live > L 4 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic > L 4 Zones/Stonehenge CD > L 4 The Stonehenge Collection > 5 Area S4 EP > 5 Alien4 > L 6 Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] > L 7 Love In Space > > > * 3 and 3a are from the same tour > > The Demented Man > 1 Warrior On The Edge Of Time > The Demise > 1 The Chronicle Of The Black Sword > 1 Live Chronicles {Lords of Chaos} > Diamond Ring > SEE: Dealing With The Devil > Diana Park > 1 In Your Area > Disintegration > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock {unlisted} > 1 a Sonic Attack > > * 1a is a remix of 1 > > Distant Horizons > 1 Distant Horizons > Don't Understand > 1 Electric Teepee > The Door > L 1 Glastonbury 90 > Do That > SEE: You Shouldn't Do That > Douglas In The Jungle > 1 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II > 1 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > 1 Acid Daze Vol. II > 1 The Hawkwind Collection > 1 Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords > 1 Castle Masters Collection > 1 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) > 1 a Best of Hawkwind > 1 a Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > 1 a Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > > * 1a is a cut version of 1 > > Down on Her Knees > 1 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 > Down Through The Night > 1 Doremi Fasol Latido > 1 (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > L 2 Space Ritual Alive > L 2 Stasis CD > Dragons & Fables > 1 The Earth Ritual Preview EP > 1 Independent Days, Vol. II > 1 Utopia 1984 > 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD > 1 Golden Void 1969-1979 CD > L 2 Live Chronicles > L 3 Undisclosed Files > Dragon Song > L 1 Live Chronicles [2CD set only] > > * version 1 is a narration > > The Dream > SEE: Assassination > Dream Dancers > 1 Independent Days, Vol. II > 1 The Earth Ritual Preview EP > 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 > 1 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD > 1 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > The Dream II > SEE: Assassination > The Dream Goes On > SEE: The Iron Dream > The Dream Has Ended > SEE: You Know You're Only Dreaming > Dream Worker > 1 Choose Your Masques > L 2 Live 1982 > 3 Zones > 3 Zones/Stonehenge CD > 3 The Stonehenge Collection > L 4 Live At Reading '86 > L 5 Travellers Aid Trust {Blue Dreamer} > L 6 Palace Springs {Acid Test} > L 7 Glastonbury 90 > The Dream of Isis > 1 Back on the Streets/ The Dream of Isis 7" > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > 1 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music [Griffin CD] > Dreaming City > L 1 Live Chronicles > L 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > Drug Cabinet Key > SEE: Flying Doctor > Dust Of Time > 1 Levitation > 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > 1 Ironstrike > 1 Masters of the Universe [Marble Arch Rock CD] > 1 Spirit of the Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > 1 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > 1 a Night Riding > L 2 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette] > L 3 The Golden Void > L 4 Live 1982 > > * The 1a version contains a guitar intro from a previous track > > Dying Seas > 1 Warrior On The Edge Of Time > Earth Calling > L 1 BBC Transcription Disc LP > L 1 Space Rock From London > L 1 a BBC Radio - Live in Concert CD > L 2 Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 > L 2 a Friends And Relations II (Twice Upon A Time) > L 2 a Hawkwind Friends And Relations - The Rarities CD > L 2 a Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > L 2 b British Tribal Music > L 2 b Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > L 2 b The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II > L 2 b The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 2 b Acid Daze Vol. II > L 2 b The Hawkwind Collection > L 2 b Best of Hawkwind > L 2 b Live & Rare (Onward Flies the Bird) > L 2 b Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > L 2 b Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] > L 2 b Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > L 3 Space Ritual Alive > L 3 Stasis CD > > * 1a is an edit of 1 > * 2a is a cut of 2 > * 2b is a cut of 2a > > Earthed To The Ground > 1 Earthed to the Ground > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > 1 a Friends & Relations III {Wired Up For Sound} > 1 a Best of Hawkwind Friends&Relations CD [Flicknife] {Wired Up For Sound} > > * 1a is based on 1 > > Ejection > 1 Doremi Fasol Latido [remastered CD only] > L 2 Hawkfan 12" > L 2 The Elf and The Hawk > L 2 a Live 1982 > L 3 Solstice at Stonehenge 1983 > 4 Night of the Hawk CD > 4 Out And Intake > L 5 Undisclosed Files > L 6 The Cyberspace Conspiracy > L 7 Glastonbury 90 > L 8 California Brainstorm > L 9 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > L 10 Hawkwind 1997 > > * version 1 is a remastered version of the original 7" single solo > release by Bob Calvert > * 2a is from the same tour as 2 > > Electric Teepee > 1 Electric Teepee > Electronic #1 > L 1 Space Ritual Alive > L 1 a Space Ritual II {Space} > L 1 a Hawkwind Live [Imtrat] > L 1 a Hawkwind: The Masters > L 1 a Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > > * 1 and 1a are from the same tour > > Elements > L 1 Acid Daze Vol II {Watchfield Festival} > L 1 Hawkwind Anthology Vol.II {Watchfield Festival} > L 1 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] {Watchfield Festival} > L 1 a Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield > L 1 a Weird 103 - Free Festivals > > * 1a is an edit of the live track with extra noises and lyrics > overlaid > > Elfin > L 1 Love In Space > Elric The Enchanter > 1 The Chronicle of the Black Sword > > Elric The Enchanter Part 1 > L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] {Narration} > L 2 Live Chronicles [2CD set] > > * version 2 is a narration of the first half of version 1 > > Elric The Enchanter Part 2 > L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] {Elric the Enchanter} > L 2 Live Chronicles [2CD set] > > * version 2 is the second half of version 1 > > EMG > 1 The Xenon Codex > Empty Dreams > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > 1 The Agents of Chaos > Encounters > 1 Strange Trips And Pipe Dreams > Eons > SEE: Snake Dance > > * This track could be the name of the Wishart song that was > edited out of California Brainstorm. > Etchanatae > L 1 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 > Experiment with Destiny [See also Virgin of the World] > 1 Church of Hawkwind > > * 1 is an instrumental version only. The printed lyrics are not used > > Fable Of A Failed Race > 1 Quark Strangeness And Charm > 1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > ? 1 Hassan I Sabha/Fable of a Failed Race 7" > Fahrenheit 451 > 1 Angels of Death > 1 Choose Your Masques > Fall of Earth City > 1 Church of Hawkwind > Fantasy > SEE: Your Fantasy > Festivals > 1 Alien4 > The Fifth Second Of Forever > L 1 Weird 103 - Free Festivals {Circles} > L 1 Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield {Circles} > 2 Levitation > 2 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > 2 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > 3 Weird 107 - Dave Brock {Circles} > L 4 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic {Circles} > L 4 Utopia 1984 {Circles} > L 4 Zones/Stonehenge CD {Circles} > L 4 The Stonehenge Collection {Circles} > Fight Sequence > L 1 Live Chronicles > The Final Fight > L 1 Live Chronicles [2CD set only] > > * version 1 is a narration > > First Landing on Medusa > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > > * See also: The Awakening > > Flight to Maputo > 1 Out And Intake > 1 Night of the Hawk CD > Flying Doctor > 1 Hawklords > 1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > 2 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 [First release of tape only] > 2 Friends And Relations III {Drug Cabinet Key} > The Forge Of Vulcan > 1 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 > 2 Quark Strangeness And Charm > 2 Quark, Strangeness, and Charm/ The Forge of Vulcan 7" > 2 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 2 The Ambient Anarchists > 2 Sonic Boom Killers > Free Fall > L 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock > L 1 Sonic Assassins 12" EP > L 1 Victoria double album > L 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 > L 1 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > 2 Hawklords > L 3 Weird 104 - Hawklords/Hawkwind Live 1978 > Frenzzy > 1 White Zone > 1 The Emergency Broadcast System Samples > Frisco Jam > L 1 Dawn of Hawkwind CD > Gaga > L 1 Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Garagin > L 1 Early Daze > L 1 Silver Machine CD [Legend Compilation] > L 1 Hawkwind Live [Brilliant CD] > > * This track doesn't appear on the tracklist of the Silver Machine > Or Early Daze CD's. > Garden Pests > 1 Electric Teepee > Gateway > SEE: Berlin Axis > Get Yourself Together > L 1 Dawn of Hawkwind [Voiceprint CD] > Ghost Dance > L 1 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I > L 1 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 1 Acid Daze Vol. I > L 1 British Tribal Music > L 1 The Hawkwind Collection LP > L 1 The Hawkwind Anthology 3CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 1 Castle Masters Collection [CD only] > L 1 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > L 1 Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] > L 1 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] > L 1 a Best of Hawkwind > L 1 a Out and Intake > L 1 a Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > L 1 a Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > L 2 The Golden Void > L 3 Undisclosed Files - Addendum [CD Only] > L 3a Hawkfan 12" > L 3a The Elf and The Hawk > > * 1a is a cut version of 1 > * 3a is an edit of 3 > > Gimme Shelter > 1 Gimme Shelter charity rock CD > 1 Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] > 1 a It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > 1 a Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] > > * 1a is a remix of 1 without Samantha Fox > * Theta Orionis contains the whole track and then a section of > the track is repeated on the following track > > Goat Willow > 1 Hall Of The Mountain Grill > Going to Hawaii > 1 Electric Teepee > The Golden Void > 1 Warrior On The Edge Of Time > 1 Roadhawks > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 Hawkwind Mind Journey > L 3 Friends And Relations I > L 3 Victoria double album > L 3 Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD [Anagram] > L 3 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > L 4 The Golden Void > L 5 The Cyberspace Conspiracy > L 6 Palace Springs {Void of Golden Light} > L 6 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus comp. CD] {Void of Golden Light} > L 6 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 7 Glastonbury 90 > L 8 California Brainstorm {Void's End} > L 9 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > L 10 Rock City > L 11 The Business Trip {Void of Golden Light} > > * Version 8 contains no vocals. Version 8 is a cut from the end > of a live track > > Good Evening > 1 The Xenon Codex > Green Finned Demon > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > 1 Earthed to the Ground > 2 The Earth Ritual Preview EP > 2 Night Of The Hawk > 2 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 > 2 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > 2 a Night of the Hawk/ Green Finned Demon 7" > L 3 Rock City > L 4 The Business Trip > L 4 The Emergency Broadcast System Samples > L 4 The Ambient Anarchists > > * 2 is based on demo track 1 > * 2a is a cut of 2 > > Gremlin part II > L 1 Hawkwind 1997 > Hades Deep > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > 1 The Agents of Chaos LP > Hall Of The Mountain Grill > 1 Hall Of The Mountain Grill > 1 Psychedelic Warlords/Hall of the Mountain Grill/D-Rider/Wind of Change US EP > 1 The Best of Hawkwind [EMI Metal Classics cassette] > 1 US Forces Radio album featuring Hawkwind & Jefferson Starship > Hash Cake '77 > SEE: Cake Out > Hassan I Sabha > 1 Quark Strangeness And Charm > 1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > 1 a Hassan I Sabha/Damnation Alley Part 2 Italian 7" > 1 a Hassan I Sabha/Fable of a Failed Race 7" > L 2 a Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 {Assassins of Allah} > L 2 b Hawkwind Live at the Bottom Line > 3 Out And Intake {Assassins of Allah} > 3 Night Of The Hawk {Assassins of Allah} > L 4 Live At Reading '86 > L 4 Italian "Vinile" freebie single {Assassins of Allah} > L 4 Assassins of Allah LP > L 5 Glastonbury 90 {Assassins of Allah} > L 6 The Never Ending Story of The Psychedelic Warlords {Assassins of Allah} > L 6 a California Brainstorm {Assassins of Allah} > L 7 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > L 8 Rock City {Hashish} > L 9 Love In Space {Assassins} > L 9 The Ambient Anarchists {Assassin} > L 10 Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] > L 11 Strange Daze '97 > > * 1a is an edit of 1 > * 2a and 2b are from the same tour > * 6 and 6a are from the same tour > * 9 is the segue at the end of Space Is Their Palestine > > Hawkwind In Your Area > L 1 Strange Daze '97 > L 2 Hawkwind 1997 > L 3 In Your Area > Heads > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > 1 The Agents of Chaos LP > 2 The Xenon Codex > 2 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 3 Undisclosed Files > L 4 Palace Springs > Hearing Aid Test > 1 Strange Trips And Pipe Dreams > Heart Attack > 1 White Zone > Hi Tech Cities > 1 The Agents of Chaos LP > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > L 2 The Never Ending Story of The Psychedelic Warlords > High Rise > L 1 Weird 103 - Free Festivals > L 1 Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield > L 1 a The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind > L 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I > L 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 1 a Acid Daze Vol. I > L 1 a Best of Hawkwind > L 1 a Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) > L 1 a Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > L 1 a Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > L 1 b Castle Masters Collection > L 1 b Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > 2 PXR5 [LP only] > 2 Repeat Performance > 2 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 2 Tales From Atom Henge > 2 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 3 PXR5 [CD only] > 3 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > 4 Hawkwind Live at the Bottom Line > 5 The Hawklords Live > > * 1a is a remix of 1 > * versions 1,2 and 3 are from the same tour > * Version 2 appeared on the PXR5 LP. Version 3 appeared > on the PXR5 CD. > * 1b the sound of an explosion at the end of version 1 and 1a > has been cut out in editing (see British Tribal Music) > * This track is listed but not present on The Ambient Anarchists > > Hippy > L 1 Strange Daze '98 {Starfire Mountain Dreaming} > 2 In Your Area > Honky Dorky > 1 Kerb Crawler/ Honky Dorky 7" > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > 1 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music [Griffin CD] > Horn Of Destiny > SEE: Horn of Fate > Horn Of Fate > 1 The Chronicle Of The Black Sword {Horn of Destiny} > L 2 Live Chronicles [1CD version] > L 2 Live Chronicles [2CD set] {Horn of Fate (Destiny)} > L 2 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > Hurry On Sundown > 1 Hawkwind Zoo 12" EP > 1 Last Chance 7" EP > 1 Motorhead/Hurry On Sundown 7" > 1 Victoria Double Album > 1 Independent Days Vol 1 > 1 Night of the Hawk > 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-85 > 1 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > 1 Dawn of Hawkwind [Voiceprint CD] > 1 a Hawkwind [remastered CD only] > 1 a Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 In The Beginning {Hurry On a Sundown} > L 2 Live 70-73 {Hurry On a Sundown} > L 2 Welcome To The Future {Mausoleum LP] {Hurry On a Sundown} > L 2 The Text of Festival {Hurry On a Sundown} > L 2 Early Daze {Hurry On a Sundown} > L 2 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD > ?L 2 Silver Machine [Legend CD] > L 2 Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 2 a Weird 106 - Hawkwind Live 1970-73 > L 2 a The Hawkwind Anthology Vol III LP > L 2 a The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 2 a Acid Daze Vol III > L 2 a British Tribal Music > L 2 a Castle Masters Collection > L 2 a Hawkwind Anthology 3CD box set (Castle Communications) > L 2 a Best of Hawkwind > L 2 a Space Is Deep > L 2 a Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > L 2 a Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] > L 2 a Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > 3 Hawkwind > 3 Hurry on Sundown / Mirror of Illusion 7" > 3 (The Best of The Psychedelic Warlords) > 3 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 3 Sonic Boom Killers > 3 a Roadhawks > 3 b US double 7" EP > > * 1a is an edit of 1. > * versions 1 and 1a both feature on the remastered Hawkwind CD > * 2a is an edit and cut of 2. > * 3a is segued into Paranoia on the Roadhawks album > * 3b is a cut version of 3 > > Hyperdrive Reprise > Pink Floyd Tribute CD > I Am The Eye That Looks Within > SEE: Blue Skin > I Am The Reptoid > SEE: Reptoid Vision > Identimate > 1 Church of Hawkwind [CD only] > I Do It > SEE: We Do It > Illusions > SEE: Mirror of Illusion > Images > 1 Space Bandits > 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 2 Glastonbury 90 > L 3 Orgasmatron > L 4 The Never Ending Story of The Psychedelic Warlords > L 4 California Brainstorm [Cyclone CD only] > Improvise..Compromise..Reprise. > The Text Of Festival LP - SEE: You Shouldn't Do That > The Text Of Festival CD - SEE: Be Yourself, Paranoia > > * This track was misnamed for another track on the CD > > Interstellar Overdrive > Pink Floyd Tribute CD > In The Egg > L 1 Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Garagin > L 1 Early Daze > L 1 Live '70/'73 > L 1 Welcome To The Future [Mausoleum LP] > L 1 Silver Machine [Legend CD] > L 1 Hawkwind Live [Brilliant CD] > In the Office > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > 1 The Agents of Chaos LP > Infinity > 1 PXR5 > In Search of Shangrila > 1 White Zone > Into the Realms > 1 The Agents of Chaos LP > It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > 1 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > The Iron Dream > 1 Quark Strangeness And Charm > 1 Quark, Strangeness, and Charm/ The Iron Dream 7" > L 2 Weird 104 - Hawklords/Hawkwind Live 1978 > L 3 The Business Trip {The Dream Goes On} > 4 Area S4 EP {Are You Losing Your Mind?} > 4 Alien4 {Are You Losing Your Mind?} > L 5 Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] {The Dream Goes On} > L 6 Love In Space {Are You Losing Your Mind?} > > * versions 4 onwards have lyrics added > > > The Island > 1 Zones > 1 Zones/Stonehenge CD > 1 The Stonehenge Collection > L 2 Live Chronicles {Dust of Time} > L 3 Live At Reading '86 {unlisted} > > * This is the instrumental section only from Dust of Time. No lyrics. > * Version 1 includes the guitar solo from 5 Seconds of Forever > * Version 3 is part of a segue. > > It's Never Too Late > 1 Strange Trips And Pipe Dreams > It's So Easy > L 1 The 1999 Party > L 2 Psychedelic Warlords/ It's so Easy 7" > L 2 Masters of the Universe [Compilation] > L 2 (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > L 2 Hall of the Mountain Grill [remastered CD only] > L 2 Sonic Boom Killers > Jack Of Shadows > 1 PXR5 > 1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > Jam > SEE: Seeing It As You Really Are > The Joker At The Gate > 1 Angels of Death > 1 Church of Hawkwind > 1 The Ambient Anarchists > Journey > 1 Alien4 > 1 The Emergency Broadcast System Samples > Kadu Flyer > 1 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music > Kapal > 1 Alien4 > L 2 Love In Space > Kauai > 1 Distant Horizons > L 2 Strange Daze '97 > Keeper of The Reptoid > SEE: Reptoid Vision > Kerb Crawler > 1 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music > 1 Kerb Crawler/ Honky Dorky 7" > 1 Repeat Performance > 1 Rock On - with Hawkwind and Van Der Graaf Generator > 1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > Kings Of Speed > 1 Hawkwind Zoo 12" EP > 1 Independent Days, Vol. II > 1 Victoria double album > 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 > 1 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD > 1 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > 2 Warrior On The Edge Of Time LP [United Artists] > 2 Warrior On The Edge Of Time CD [Dojo] > 2 a Kings of Speed/ Motorhead 7" > 2 a Kings of Speed/Kings of Speed US 7" > 2 a Warrior On The Edge Of Time LP [Atco] > 2 a Warrior On The Edge Of Time CD [Griffin] > 2 a Sonic Boom Killers > > * 2a is an edit of 2 > * The US single is stereo on one side and mono on the other > > Kiss of the Velvet Whip > SEE: Sweet Mistress of Pain > The Last Messiah > 1 Church of Hawkwind [LP and CD] > 1 Angels of Death > 1 The Ambient Anarchists > La Forge > 1 Strange Trips And Pipe Dreams > Let Barking Dogs Lie > 1 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > Letting In The Past > SEE: Looking in the Future > Levitation > L 1 The Complete '79 > 2 Levitation > 2 Ironstrike > 2 Masters of The Universe [ Marble Arch Rock CD] > 2 Night Riding > 2 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > 2 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > 2 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > 2 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 3 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic > L 3 Zones/Stonehenge CD > L 3 Utopia 1984 > L 3 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 3 The Stonehenge Collection} > L 4 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > Life Form > 1 PXR5 > 1 The Ambient Anarchists > Light Specific Data > 1 Church of Hawkwind > Lighthouse > L 1 Live '79 > L 1 a Live - St.Albans 1979 > L 1 b The Complete '79 > > * 1a is a poorer mix of 1 > * 1b is from the same tour as 1 > > Live and Let Live > 1 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 > Lives of Great Men > SEE: Assault And Battery > Living On A Knife Edge > 1 Angels of Death > 1 Sonic Attack > > * Some of the lyrics from this track used in "Processed" > > Looking In The Future > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > 1 a Angels of Death > 1 a Church of Hawkwind > 2 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous {Letting in the Past} > L 3 Rock City {Assault And Battery Part 1} > > * 1a is a remix of 1 > > Lord Of Light > 1 Doremi Fasol Latido > 1 Stasis > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 a Lord of Light/ Born to Go 7" > 1 a Silver Machine/7 by 7/Lord of Light/Born to Go German double 7" EP > 1 a Doremi Fasol Latido [remastered CD only] > L 2 Space Ritual Alive > L 2 Lord of Light > L 3 Love in Space EP > > * 1a is an edit of 1 > * versions 1 and 1a both feature on the remastered > Doremi Fasol Latido CD > > Lords Of Chaos > SEE: The Demise > Lost Chances > 1 Sonic Attack > Lost Chronicles > 1 The Xenon Codex > 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > 1 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] > Lost Johnny > 1 Hall Of The Mountain Grill > 1 Masters of the Universe [Compilation] > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > Love in Space > 1 White Zone > L 2 Love In Space > 3 Love in Space EP > 3 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > 3 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > 3 a Distant Horizons > L 4 The Ambient Anarchists > L 5 Wir sind Kinder der Revolte > L 6 Hawkwind 1997 > L 7 In Your Area {Rat Race} > > * 2 is a substantially reworked version of 1 with lyrics added > * 3a is an edit of 3 without lyrics > * In 7 Rat Race contains added lyrics to the track > LSD > 1 Electric Teepee > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 2 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > L 3 The Business Trip > L 3 a The Emergency Broadcast Samples {unlisted} > L 3 a The Ambient Anarchists {unlisted} > L 3 b Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] > > * 3a is a cut from 3 appearing as a segue at the end of Processed > * Versions 3, 3a and 3b are from the same tour > > Luxotica > 1 In Your Area > Machine Dream > 1 Earthed to the Ground > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > Magnu > 1 Warrior On The Edge Of Time > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock > L 2 British Tribal Music > L 2 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II > L 2 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 2 Acid Daze Vol. II > L 2 Castle Masters Collection > L 2 Night Riding {unlisted} > L 2 Masters of the Universe [Marble Arch] {unlisted} > L 2 Spirit of the Age [Elite compilation] {unlisted} > L 2 The Hawkwind Collection {unlisted} > L 2 Ironstrike {unlisted} > L 2 Best of Hawkwind {unlisted} > L 2 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) > L 2 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] {unlisted} > L 2 Silver Machine Live 12" EP > L 2 Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] > L 2 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] > L 2 Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] {unlisted} > L 2 a Silver Machine/Magnu 7" > L 2 a Silver Machine/Magnu 7" motorbike shaped pic disk > L 3 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette] > L 4 The Golden Void > L 4 a Live 1982 > L 5 Orgasmatron > L 6 Live Chronicles > L 7 Live At Reading '86 > > * Magnu is not listed on the tracklist of some albums but appears > as part of the Magnu/Angels of Death live version. > * 2a is a faded cut of 2 > * This track appears both on Live Chronicles and on the Bonus > compilation CD which accompanied the Castle release > > Make What You Can > 1 Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 > Mask of Morning > 1 Electric Teepee > L 2 Orgasmatron > > * Lyrics taken from "Mirror of Illusion" > > Master Of The Universe > L 1 In The Beginning > L 1 The Text Of Festival > L 1 Welcome To The Future [Mausoleum LP] > L 1 Live '70/'73 > L 1 Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 1 a Dawn of Hawkwind [Voiceprint CD] > 2 X In Search of Space > 2 Masters of the Universe [UA Compilation] > 2 (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > 2 The Best of Hawkwind [EMI Metal Classics cassette] > 2 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 2 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > 2 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > 2 a US double 7" EP > L 3 Orgasmatron > L 4 Greasy Trucker's Party > L 4 Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 > L 4 Assassins of Allah LP > L 4 Dawn of Hawkwind CD > L 4 Space Ritual Alive [remastered CD only] > L 5 BBC Transcription Disc LP > L 5 Space Rock from London > L 5 a BBC Radio - Live In Concert CD > L 6 Space Ritual Alive > L 6 a Space Ritual II > L 6 a Hawkwind Live [Imtrat] > L 6 a Ridicule > L 6 a Hawkwind: The Masters > L 6 a Early Daze > ?L 6 a Silver Machine [Legend CD] > L 6 a Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 7 The 1999 Party > L 8 Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Garagin > L 8 Hawkwind Live [Brilliant CD] > L 9 Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords > L 10 Live '79 > L 10 a The Complete '79 {Masters of the Universe} > L 11 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette] > L 12 Live 1982 {Masters of the Universe} > L 13 Solstice at Stonehenge 1983 > L 14 Motorway City/ Master of the Universe 7" > L 14 Ironstrike > L 14 Castle Masters Collection > L 14 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > L 14 The Hawkwind Collection > L 14 Masters of The Universe [ Marble Arch Rock CD] > L 14 Night Riding > L 14 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I > L 14 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 14 Acid Daze Vol. I > L 14 Best of Hawkwind > L 14 Space Is Deep > L 14 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) (Masters of the Universe) > L 14 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > L 14 Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > L 15 Live Chronicles > L 15 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 15 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] > L 16 Bristol Custom Bike Show > L 16 Assassins of Allah LP > L 16 Dawn of Hawkwind CD > L 17 Live At Reading '86 > L 18 Undisclosed Files [LP Only] > > * 1a has a voiceover intro by Dave Brock > * 2a is a cut version of 2 > * versions 4 and 6 both feature on the remastered Space Ritual Alive 2CD > * 5a is a remixed version of 5 > * 6a is a different mix from 6 > * 10a is from the same tour as 10 > * there are two versions of Masters of the Universe on Assassins > of Allah LP and Dawn of Hawkwind CD > * This appears in the same version both on Live Chronicles and > on the bonus compilation CD accompanying the Castle release > > > Mind Journey > L 1 Hawkwind Mind Journey > Mirror Of Illusion > L 1 Dawn of Hawkwind [Voiceprint CD] {Illusions} > 2 Hawkwind > 2 (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > 2 a Hurry on Sundown/ Mirror of Illusion 7" > > * 2a is a cut of 2 > * The lyrics for this song are also used in Mask Of Morning > > Mists of Meridin > 1 Church of Hawkwind [CD only] > Moonbean > 1 White Zone > Moonglum > L 1 Live Chronicles > L 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > Motherless Children > 1 Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD > 1 Friends And Relations II LP (Twice Upon A Time) > Motorhead > 1 Kings of Speed/ Motorhead 7" > 1 Warrior On the Edge of Time CD > 1 The Ambient Anarchists > 1 Sonic Boom Killers > 1 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > 2 British Tribal Music > 2 Independent Days, Vol. I > 2 Ironstrike > 2 Masters of The Universe [ Marble Arch Rock CD] > 2 Motorhead/ Valium 10 12" single > 2 Motorhead/ Hurry on Sundown 7" > 2 Motorhead/ Valium Ten 7" > 2 Castle Masters Collection > 2 Night Riding > 2 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > 2 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II > 2 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > 2 Acid Daze Vol. II > 2 The Hawkwind Collection > 2 Night Of The Hawk > 2 Victoria double album > 2 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 > 2 Best of Hawkwind > 2 Space Is Deep > 2 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD > 2 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) > 2 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > 2 Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] > 2 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > 2 Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > Motorway City > L 1 Live '79 > L 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 1 a Live - St.Albans 1979 > L 1 b The Complete '79 > 2 Levitation > 2 Ironstrike > 2 Night Riding > 2 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > 2 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 2 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > 2 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > 2 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 3 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette] > L 4 Solstice at Stonehenge 1983 > 5 Motorway City/ Master of the Universe 7" > 5 Zones > 5 Zones/Stonehenge CD > 5 Independent Days, Vol. I > 5 Night Of The Hawk > 5 Utopia 1984 > 5 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD > 5 The Stonehenge Collection > L 6 Undisclosed Files > L 6 The Ambient Anarchists > > * 1a is a poorer mix of 1 > * 1b is from the same tour as 1 > > Mountain in the Sky > 1 The Agents of Chaos LP > Mutation Zone > 1 The Xenon Codex > My Baby's Gone > 1 Dawn of Hawkwind [Voiceprint CD] > Narration > SEE: Elric the Enchanter > The Nazca > 1 In Your Area > Needle Gun > 1 The Chronicle Of The Black Sword > 1 Night of the Hawk > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > 1 a Needle Gun/ Arioch 7" > 1 a Needle Gun 12" EP > L 2 Dawn of Hawkwind CD > L 3 Live Chronicles > L 3 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 3 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 4 Live At Reading '86 > L 5 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > > * 1a is an edited version of 1. > > Neon Skyline > 1 The Xenon Codex > 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > New Jerusalem > L 1 The Complete '79 > L 1 a Orgasmatron > L 1 b Live - St.Albans 1979 > > * 1a and 1b are from the same tour as 1 > > Night Of The Hawk > 1 The Earth Ritual Preview EP > 1 Night of the Hawk/ Green Finned Demon 7" > 1 Independent Days, Vol. II > 1 Night of the Hawk > 1 Utopia 1984 > 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 > 1 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD > 1 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > 1 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] > L 3 California Brainstorm > L 4 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > > * Version 2 contains extra lyrics from Bridget Wishart > > Nocturne > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > 1 The Agents of Chaos > > * This track is also the first part of "A Day" on the > Agents of Chaos album. > > Now Is The Winter Of Our Discontent > SEE: Winter of Discontent > Nuclear Drive > 1 Church of Hawkwind > 1 Angels of Death > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > > * Based on the music from version 1 of Nuclear Toy > > Nuclear Toy > 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock > 2 Who's Gonna Win the War?/ Nuclear Toy 7" > 2 Levitation [Griffin CD Only] > 2 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > On The Case > 1 Earthed to the Ground > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > One Change > 1 Doremi Fasol Latido > The Only Ones > 1 Hawklords > 1 Repeat Performance > (Only) The Dead Dreams Of The Cold War Kid > 1 Hawklords > 1 25 Years/ PXR5/ Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid 12" EP > 1 25 Years/Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid 7" > 1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > Opa-Loka > 1 Warrior On The Edge Of Time > Orgone Accumulator > L 1 Space Ritual Alive > L 1 Masters of the Universe [UA Compilation] > L 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 1 a US double 7" EP > L 2 Space Ritual II > L 2 Hawkwind Live [Imtrat] > L 2 Hawkwind: The Masters > L 2 Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 2 a Live '70/'73 > L 2 a Welcome To The Future [Mausoleum LP] > L 2 b Early Daze > L 2 b Silver Machine [Legend CD] > L 3 Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Garagin > L 3 Hawkwind Live [Brilliant CD] > L 4 Undisclosed Files > > * 1a is a cut version of 1 > * 2a is a cut version of 2 > * 2b is a cut version of 2a > * Versions 1 and 2 are from the same tour > > Oscillations > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > 1 Earthed to the Ground > Out Of The Shadows > 1 Space Bandits > 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > 1 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 2 The Cyberspace Conspiracy > L 3 California Brainstorm > L 4 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > Over the Top > L 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock > L 1 Sonic Assassins 12" EP > L 1 Independent Days, Vol. I > L 1 Victoria double album > L 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 > L 1 The Hawklords Live > L 1 Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD [Anagram] > L 1 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD > L 1 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > > * This also includes The Awakening > > PXR5 > 1 PXR5 > 1 The Ambient Anarchists {High Rise} > 1 a 25 Years/ PXR5/ Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid 12" EP > L 2 The Complete '79 > > * 1a is a cut version of 1 > > Paradox > L 1 The 1999 Party > L 2 Hall Of The Mountain Grill > L 2 US Forces Radio album featuring Hawkwind & Jefferson Starship > L 2 a Paradox/ You'd Better Believe It 7" > L 2 a Stasis > L 2 a Lord of Light > L 2 a Hall of the Mountain Grill [remastered CD only] > L 2 a Sonic Boom Killers > L 3 Hawkwind Mind Journey > > * 2a is a cut of 2 > * Versions 2 and 2a both feature on the > Hall of the Mountain Grill remastered CD > > Paranoia > 1 Hawkwind > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 a Roadhawks > 1 a (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > 1 a Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 In The Beginning > L 2 The Text Of Festival > L 2 Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 3 The Text Of Festival LP {Improvise, Comprise, Reprise} > L 4 BBC Transcription Disc LP > 4 Space Rock from London > L 4 a BBC Radio - Live In Concert CD > L 5 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 [First release of tape only] > L 6 The Never Ending Story of The Psychedelic Warlords {Paranoia II} > L 7 Bristol Custom Bike Show {Silver Machine/Paranoia} > L 7 Dawn of Hawkwind CD {Silver Machine/Paranoia} > L 7 Assassins of Allah LP > L 8 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > > * 1a is Part II only > * Paranoia occurs twice on The Text of Festival LP > * 6 is the intro only > * 7 Paranoia is not separately listed on the Bristol Custom Bike Show > > Parasites Are Here On Earth > 1 Strange Trips And Pipe Dreams > 1 The Ambient Anarchists {Earth} > The Phenomenon of Luminosity > L 1 The Complete '79 {Satellite} > 2 Church of Hawkwind [LP and CD] > 2 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock {Satellite} > Phetamine Street > 1 Distant Horizons > L 2 Hawkwind 1997 > Photo Encounter > L 1 Love In Space > Pipe Dreams > 1 White Zone > 1 Strange Trips And Pipe Dreams > Population Overload > 1 Distant Horizons > Prairie > 1 In Your Area > Prelude > 1 Levitation > 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > 1 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > Processed > 1 Zones/ Processed 7" > 2 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous {The Camera That Could Lie} > 2 Decide Your Future EP and CD single {The Camera That Could Lie} > L 3 The Business Trip {The Camera That Could Lie} > L 3 The Emergency Broadcast System Samples {The Camera That Could Lie} > L 3 The Ambient Anarchists {The Camera That Could Lie > L 3 a Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] > > * Lyrics taken from "Living on a Knife Edge" > * Versions 3 and 3a are from the same tour > > Psi Power > 1 Hawklords > 1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > 1 a Psi Power/ Deathtrap 7" > 1 a Psi Power/Psi Power US 12" > 1 a Repeat Performance > 1 a Psi Power/Psi Power US 7" > 1 b Psi Power/Psi Power US 7" > L 2 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette] > L 3 Zones/Stonehenge CD {Psy Power} > L 3 Night Of The Hawk {Psychic Power} > L 3 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic {Psy Power} > L 3 Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD [Anagram] > L 3 The Stonehenge Collection {Psy Power} > > * 1a is an edit of 1 > * 1b is an edit of 1a > * The US 7" contains both the long and short single edits > > Psychedelia Lives > SEE: Shot Down in the Night > Psychedelic Warlords > L 1 Tha 1999 Party > 2 Hall Of The Mountain Grill > 2 US Forces Radio album featuring Hawkwind & Jefferson Starship > 2 The Best of Hawkwind [EMI Metal Classics cassette] > 2 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 2 a Psychedelic Warlords/ It's so Easy 7" > 2 a Psychedelic Warlords/Hall of the Mountain Grill/D-Rider/Wind of Change US EP > 2 a Stasis > 2 a (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > 2 a Hall of the Mountain Grill [remastered CD only] > 2 a Sonic Boom Killers > 2 a Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > 2 a Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 3 Hawkwind Mind Journey > 4 Silver Machine 10th Anniversary 7" EP > 4 Choose Your Masques [CD only] > 4 The Ambient Anarchists > L 5 The Golden Void > L 5 a Live 1982 {Psychedelic Warrior} > L 6 Solstice at Stonehenge 1983 > L 7 Rock City > > * 2a is an edit of 2 > * Versions 2 and 2a both feature on the remastered > Hall of the Mountain Grill CD > * 5a is from the same tour as 5 > > Psychic Power > SEE: Psi Power > Psychosis > 1 Levitation > 1 Ironstrike > 1 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > 1 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > L 2 This Is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic > L 2 Zones/Stonehenge CD > L 2 Utopia 1984 > L 2 The Stonehenge Collection > Psychosonia > 1 Sonic Attack > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > The Pulsing Cavern > 1 The Chronicle Of The Black Sword > L 2 Live Chronicles > L 2 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 3 Live At Reading '86 > Quark, Strangeness, and Charm > 1 Quark Strangeness And Charm > 1 Quark, Strangeness, and Charm/ The Forge of Vulcan 7" > 1 Quark, Strangeness, and Charm/ The Iron Dream 7" > 1 Repeat Performance > 1 Rock On - with Hawkwind and Van Der Graaf Generator > 1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Sonic Boom Killers > 1 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords > L 2 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II > L 2 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 2 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] > L 2 Acid Daze Vol. II > L 2 Castle Masters Collection > L 2 The Hawkwind Collection > L 2 Ironstrike > L 2 Masters of The Universe [ Marble Arch Rock CD] > L 2 Best of Hawkwind > L 2 Space Is Deep > L 2 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > L 2 Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > L 3 Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] > L 3 a Rock City > 4 Quark Strangeness and Charm CD single > L 4 a The Business Trip > > * Versions 3 and 3a are from the same tour > * 4a is the single mix with added audience noise at the end > > > Raping Robots in the Street > 1 Social Alliance/ Raping Robots in the Street 7" > Rat Race > SEE: Love In Space > Realms > 1 Space Bandits > The Reason Is? > 1 Hawkwind > Reefer Madness > 1 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music > 1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 2 California Brainstorm > Reptoid Vision > 1 Distant Horizons > L 2 Hawkwind 1997 > 3 In Your Area {I Am The Reptoid} > > * 2 contains spoken piece: Keeper of The Reptoid > > Reject Your Human Touch > 1 Alien4 > The Right Stuff > L 1 Orgasmatron > L 2 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > L 3 The Business Trip > Right to Decide > 1 Electric Teepee > 1 Decide Your Future EP and CD single > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 The Ambient Anarchists > 1 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > 2 Decide Your Future EP and CD single (Radio Edit Mix) > 2 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > L 3 Rock City > L 4 The Business Trip > L 5 Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] > > * 2 is performed by Alien Prophets > > Rites of Netherworld > 1 Electric Tepee > Robot > L 1 Weird 103 - Free Festivals > L 1 Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield > L 1 a Friends and Relations I > L 1 a Victoria double album > L 1 b Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD [Flicknife] > L 1 b Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD [Anagram] > L 1 b Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > L 2 PXR5 > L 3 Hawkwind Live at the Bottom Line > L 4 Love In Space > > * 1a is an edit of 1 > * 1b is a cut of 1a > > Rocky Paths > 1 Sonic Attack > 1 Angels of Death > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 2 Live Chronicles > 2 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > Roll 'Em Pete > L 1 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 > 2 White Boy Blues [Compilation CD] > 2 Dawn of Hawkwind [Voiceprint CD] > Running Through The Back Brain > 1 Zones > 1 Zones/Stonehenge CD > 1 The Stonehenge Collection > Sadness Runs Deep > 1 Electric Teepee > Satellite > SEE: The Phenomenon of Luminosity > The Scan > 1 Choose Your Masques > The Sea King > 1 The Chronicle Of The Black Sword > L 2 Live Chronicles > Secret Agent > 1 Electric Teepee > Seeing It As You Really Are > 1 Hawkwind > L 2 In The Beginning > L 2 The Text of Festival > L 2 Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 3 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol III LP > L 3 Acid daze Vol III LP > L 3 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 3 a The Hawkwind Anthology Vol II CD > L 3 a Night Riding {unlisted} > L 3 a + The Best and The Rest of Hawkwind {unlisted} > L 3 a + The Hawkwind Collection LP {unlisted} > L 3 b + The Hawkwind Anthology Castle Communications 3CD {unlisted} > L 3 c + Roadhawks {unlisted} > L 3 c + (The Best of) The Psychedelic Warlords {unlisted} > L 3 c + Stasis {unlisted} > L 3 c + Space Ritual Alive [remastered CD only] {unlisted} > L 4 Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 {Jam} > > * on albums where the track is unlisted it appears as > the 2nd half of a segue with You Shouldn't Do That > as the encore to Space Ritual Alive > * 3 is the complete version plus a speech at the end > * 3a is version 3 with no speech > * 3b is version 3 but with a slightly cut end to the music > * 3c is version 3 but with a cut at the beginning and an > overlay of the Silver Machine intro at the end > * Version 4, on Weird 106, is the end of the Roahhawks encore > from Space Ritual but without the segue with Silver Machine > > Self > 1 Strange Trips And Pipe Dreams > Seven by Seven > 1 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1972] A1/B1 > 1 In Search of Space [remastered CD only] > 1 Sonic Boom Killers > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > 1 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1972] A1/B2 > 1 b Silver Machine/7 by 7/Lord of Light/Born to Go German double 7" EP > 1 b Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1976] > 1 b Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1978] A3/B3 > 1 b Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1978] > 1 b Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1983] > 1 b Stasis > 1 b Lord of Light > L 2 BBC Transcription Disc LP > L 2 Space Rock from London > L 2 a BBC Radio - Live In Concert CD > L 3 Space Ritual Alive > L 3 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1983] > L 3 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [after 1983] > L 4 Space Ritual II > L 4 Hawkwind Live [Imtrat] > L 4 Hawkwind: The Masters > L 4 Ridicule > L 4 Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 4 a Live '70/'73 > L 4 a Welcome To The Future [Mausoleum LP] > L 5 The 1999 Party > > * 1a is a remix of 1 - both released in 1972 > * 1b is a remix of 1 > * 2a is a remix of 2 > * 3a is a cut version of 3 > * 4a is a cut version of 4 > > Shade Gate > 1 The Chronicle Of The Black Sword > L 2 Live Chronicles > L 2 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > Ship Of Dreams > 1 Space Bandits > Shot Down in the Night > L 1 Live '79 > L 1 Ironstrike > L 1 Masters of The Universe [Marble Arch Rock CD] > L 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 1 a Shot Down in the Night/ Urban Guerilla 7" > L 1 a Night Riding > L 1 a Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > L 1 a Sonic Boom Killers > L 1 a Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 1 b Live - St.Albans 1979 > L 1 c The Complete '79 > L 2 This Is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic > L 2 The Stonehenge Collection > 3 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette] > 3 a Friends And Relations III {Psychedelia Lives} > 3 a Best of Hawkwind Friends&Relations CD [Flicknife]{Psychedelia Lives} > 3 a Hawkwind Friends And Relations - The Rarities CD {Psychedelia Lives} > L 4 Live 1982 > 5 Solstice at Stonehenge 1983 > 6 Orgasmatron > > * 1a is an edited version of 1 > * 1b is a poorer mix of 1 > * 1c is a remix of 1 > * 3a is a cut from the middle of 3 > > Silver Machine > L 1 Orgasmatron > L 2 Glastonbury Fayre > L 2 Assassins of Allah LP > L 2 Dawn of Hawkwind CD > 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1972] > 3 X In Search Of Space [Spanish album and remastered CD only] > 3 Doremifasolatido [Japanese album only] > 3 US double 7" EP > 3 Silver Machine/7 by 7/Lord of Light/Born to Go German double 7" EP > 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1978] > 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1978] > 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1983] > 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1983] > 3 Silver Machine/ Urban Guerilla 7" [Dutch 1989] > 3 Stasis > 3 (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > 3 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 3 Sonic Boom Killers > 3 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > 3 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > 3 Silver Machine Infected by The Scourge of The Earth CD > 3 a Roadhawks > 3 a Silver Machine/ Urban Guerilla 7" [German 1975] > 3 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1976] > 3 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [after 1983] > L 4 BBC Transcription Disc - The Brian Matthews Show > L 4 Dawn of Hawkwind CD > L 5 BBC Transcription Disc LP > L 5 Space Rock from London > L 5 a BBC Radio - Live In Concert CD > L 6 Early Daze > L 6 Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Garagin > L 6 Silver Machine [Legend CD] > L 6 Hawkwind Live [Brilliant CD] > L 7 Live '79 > L 7 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 7 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 7 a The Complete '79 > L 8 Silver Machine/Magnu 7" > L 8 Silver Machine/Magnu 7" motorbike shaped pic disk > L 8 Silver Machine Live 12" EP > L 8 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > L 8 Ironstrike > L 8 British Tribal Music > L 8 Castle Masters Collection > L 8 Night Riding > L 8 The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind > L 8 The Early Years Live EP > L 8 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I CD > L 8 Acid Daze Vol. III CD > L 8 The Hawkwind Collection > L 8 Best of Hawkwind CD > L 8 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > L 8 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) > L 8 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] {Silver Machine live} > L 8 Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] > L 8 Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > 9 Choose Your Masques > 9 Silver Machine 10th Anniversary 7" EP [long version] > 9 a Silver Machine 10th Anniversary 7" EP [short version] > 9 a Choose Your Masques [CD only] > L 10 Bristol Custom Bike Show > L 10 Assassins of Allah LP > L 10 Dawn of Hawkwind CD {Silver Machine/Paranoia} > L 11 Live At Reading '86 > L 12 Travellers Aid Trust {Washing [Silver] Machine} > L 13 Love In Space > 14 Silver Machine Infected by The Scourge of the Earth 12" {12" Mix} > 14 Silver Machine Infected by The Scourge of the Earth CD {12" Mix} > 14 a Silver Machine Infected by The Scourge of the Earth 12" {New Mix} > 14 a Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > 14 b Silver Machine Infected by The Scourge of the Earth CD {Radio Edit} > 14 b Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > > > * Version 2 was recorded at the Roundhouse in 1972 and not at > Glastonbury. > * Version 3 was mixed from version 2 at Rockfield. > * Version 3a was remixed from 3 for the Roadhawks album by > overlapping the end of the Shouldn't Do That track from the > Space Ritual encore with the start of the version 3 single. > * Version 5a is a remix from version 5 > * Version 7 stops with an explosion soon after the track begins > * 7a is from the same tour as 7 > * The 10th anniversary 7" EP contained both the version from the > Choose Your Masques album, and a shorter edited version. The > CD of Choose Your Masques had the full three tracks from the > 10th Anniversary EP and thus contained the full version twice. > The EP was also released as a pic disk with the covers from > Warrior On The Edge of Time and Doremifasolatido. > * Two versions of Silver Machine on Assassins of Allah LP and three > versions on Dawn of Hawkwind CD > * Two versions appear on the Epoch Eclipse compilation > * 14a is an edit/remix of 14 > * 14b is an edit/remix of 14 > * Two versions appear on the Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > * Three Versions appear on the Silver Machine Infected by The > Scourge of the Earth CD > > Slap it on de Table > 1 Weird 103 - Free Festivals > 1 a Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield > > * The 1a version runs out halfway through > > Sleep of 1000 Tears > 1 The Chronicle Of The Black Sword > L 2 * The Chronicle of the Black Sword [Flicknife] CD > L 2 Live Chronicles [2CD only] > L 2 Independent Days, Vol. II > L 2 Zarozinia 12" EP > > * Two versions of this song are on the Flicknife CD > > Snake Dance > L 1 The Cyberspace Conspiracy > L 2 California Brainstorm {Eons} > 3 Electric Teepee > L 4 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > Social Alliance > L 1 Live 1982 > 2 Social Alliance/ Raping Robots in the Street 7" > 2 Independent Days, Vol. I > 2 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD > 3 Zones > 3 Zones/Stonehenge CD > 3 Utopia 1984 > 3 Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD [Anagram] > 3 The Stonehenge Collection > Solitary Mind Games > 1 Angels of Death > 1 Choose Your Masques > L 2 Live 1982 {Solitary Minds Games} > L 2 a Out And Intake > > * 2a is a remix and cut of 2 > > Some People Never Die > SEE: Assassination > Something's Going On > 1 Strange Trips And Pipe Dreams > Song Of The Swords > 1 The Chronicle Of The Black Sword > 1 Needle Gun 12" EP > L 2 Live Chronicles > L 2 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 2 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > Sonic Attack > L 1 Space Ritual Alive > L 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 1 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > L 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 1 a Space Ritual II > L 1 a Hawkwind Live [Imtrat] > L 1 a Hawkwind: The Masters > L 1 a Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 1 b Live '70/'73 > L 1 b Welcome To The Future [Mausoleum LP] > L 1 c Sonic Attack promo 7" > L 1 c Masters of the Universe [Compilation] > L 2 The 1999 Party > L 3 Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Garagin > L 3 Hawkwind Live [Brilliant CD] > L 3 a Early Daze > L 3 a Silver Machine [Legend CD] > L 4 Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures > L 5 Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords > L 6 Hawkwind Live at the Bottom Line > L 7 The Hawklords Live > L 8 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette] > 9 Sonic Attack > 9 The Ambient Anarchists > 10 Zones > 10 Zones/Stonehenge CD > 10 The Stonehenge Collection > L 11 Undisclosed Files > L 12 Love in Space EP > L 13 Hawkwind 1997 > > * 1a is the same as 1 but with a different intro > 1b is 1a with the end cut short > 1c is 1 but faded at the end > 3a is the same as 3 but with part of the intro cut > > Sound..Shouldn't..Improvise... > SEE: You Shouldn't Do That > Space > SEE: Electronic #1 > SEE: Space Is Deep > Space Chase > 1 Levitation > 1 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > 1 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > L 2 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic > L 2 Utopia 1984 > L 2 Zones/Stonehenge CD > L 2 The Stonehenge Collection > Space Dust > 1 Electric Teepee > Space Is Deep > 1 Doremi Fasol Latido > 1 Roadhawks > 1 The Best of Hawkwind [EMI Metal Classics cassette] > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 Space Ritual Alive > L 2 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 > L 2 British Tribal Music > L 2 Stasis > L 2 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II CD > L 2 Acid Daze Vol. III > L 2 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. III > L 2 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 2 The Hawkwind Collection > L 2 The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind > L 2 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 2 Best of Hawkwind > L 2 Space Is Deep > L 2 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) > L 2 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > L 2 Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] > 3 Strange Trips And Pipe Dreams {Space} > > Space is their (Palestine) > 1 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > L 2 Rock City > L 3 Love In Space {Assassins} > L 3 The Ambient Anarchists {Assassin} > L 3 a Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] > L 4 Strange Daze '97 > > * Version 3a is not listed on the CD but is part of Assassins of Allah > * Versions 3 and 3a are from the same tour > > Space Sex > 1 Alien4 [vinyl only] > > * This track is listed on the cover of Theta Orionis but does > not appear on the album > > Space Travellers > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > Speed of Light > SEE: Transdimensional Man > Spiral Galaxy 28948 > 1 Warrior On The Edge Of Time > L 2 Hawkwind Mind Journey > Spirit Of The Age > L 1 Orgasmatron {Starfarer's Despatch} > 2 Quark Strangeness And Charm > 2 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 2 Repeat Performance > 2 Tales From Atom Henge > 2 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 2 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 3 Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords > L 3 Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD > L 3 Friends And Relations II LP (Twice Upon A Time) > L 3 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > L 3 a Hawkwind Live at the Bottom Line > L 4 Weird 104 - Hawklords/Hawkwind Live 1978 > L 5 The Hawklords Live > L 6 Live '79 > L 6 The Hawkwind Collection > L 6 Ironstrike > L 6 Castle Masters Collection > L 6 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > L 6 The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind > L 6 The Early Years Live EP > L 6 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I > L 6 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 6 Acid Daze Vol. I > L 6 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 6 Best of Hawkwind > L 6 Space Is Deep > L 6 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) > L 6 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > L 6 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] > L 6 Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > L 6 a The Complete '79 > L 7 Solstice at Stonehenge 1983 > 8 Spirit of the Age (Solstice Remixes) > > * version 3a is from the same tour as 3 > * the sound quality of versions 6 varies considerably > * 6a is from the same tour as 6 > * version 8 consists of four mixes performed by Astralasia > > > Spirits > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > 1 Earthed to the Ground > Sputnik Stan > L 1 Rock City > 2 Area S4 EP [vinyl only] > 2 Alien4 > 2 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 3 Love In Space > Standing at the Edge > L 1 The 1999 Party > 2 Warrior On The Edge Of Time > L 3 Hawkwind Mind Journey > Star Cannibal > 1 Church of Hawkwind [LP and CD] > Starfarer's Despatch > SEE: Spirit of the Age > Starfire Mountain Dreaming > SEE: Hippy > Starflight > 1 Out And Intake > 1 Night Of The Hawk > L 2 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > Steppenwolf > 1 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music > 1 Repeat Performance > 1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] > 1 Tales From Atom Henge > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures > L 3 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 > L 4 Hawkwind Live at the Bottom Line > L 5 Weird 104 - Hawklords/Hawkwind Live 1978 > Stonehenge Decoded > L 1 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic > L 1 The Stonehenge Collection > Streets of Fear > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > 1 a Sonic Attack > 1 a The Ambient Anarchists > > * 1a based on Brock Demo version 1 > > Sweet Mistress of Pain > 1 Hawkwind Zoo 12" EP > 1 Victoria double album > 1 Independent Days, Vol. II {Kiss Of The Velvet Whip} > 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 > 1 Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD [Anagram] > 1 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD {Kiss of the Velvet Whip} > 1 Hawkwind [remastered CD only] {Kiss of the Velvet Whip} > 1 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > Sweet Obsession > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > 1 Earthed to the Ground > Sword of Dawn > L 1 Glastonbury 90 > Sword Of The East > 1 The Xenon Codex > 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > Taxi For Max > 1 Distant Horizons > Techno Tropic Zone Exists > 1 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > 1 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] > Ten Seconds Of Forever > L 1 Ridicule > L 1 Space Ritual Alive > L 1 Hawkwind Live [Imtrat] > L 1 Space Ritual II > L 1 Hawkwind: The Masters > L 1 Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > Terra Mystica > 1 The Business Trip [Vinyl only] > 1 Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] {Terror Mystica} > This Future > SEE: Welcome To the Future > Tibet is not China (I) > 1 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > L 2 Rock City > Tibet is not China (II) > 1 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > Tides > 1 The Xenon Codex > 1 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] > Time and Space > 1 White Zone > 1 The Ambient Anarchists > Time For Sale > L 1 Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures > Time We Left > 1 Doremi Fasol Latido {Time We Left This World Today} > L 2 Space Ritual Alive {Time We Left This World Today} > L 3 Space Ritual II > L 3 Hawkwind Live [Imtrat] > L 3 Hawkwind: The Masters > L 3 Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 4 Palace Springs > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 5 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > Time of > 1 Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords > 1 a Who's Gonna Win the War?/ Time of 7" > 1 a Hawkwind, Friends & Relations: Cosmic Travellers > 1 a Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > > * 1a is a cut version of 1 > > Touchdown > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > Trans Dimensional Man > 1 Weird 107 {Speed of Light} > 1 a Angels of Death/ Trans Dimensional Man 7" > 1 a Sonic Attack [CD only] > > * 1a is based on Brock Demo 1 > > Treadmill > L 1 Palace Springs > L 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > > * Lyrics are taken from "A Day" > > Turner Point > L 1 Out And Intake > TV Suicide > 1 Space Bandits > L 2 The Never Ending Story of The Psychedelic Warlords > L 2 a California Brainstorm > L 2 a The Ambient Anarchists > > * 2 and 2a are from the same tour > > U.F.O. Line > 1 Strange Trips And Pipe Dreams > 1 The Ambient Anarchists > Uncle Sam's On Mars > L 1 Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures > L 2 Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield > L 2 Weird 103 - Free Festivals > L 3 Weird 104 - Hawklords/Hawkwind Live 1978 > L 4 PXR5 > 4 The Ambient Anarchists > 4 Repeat Performance > 4 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > 5 Quark Strangeness and Charm CD single (Red Planet Radio Mix) > 6 Quark Strangeness and Charm CD single (Martian Conquest Mix) > Upside Down > L 1 Space Ritual Alive > L 1 a Space Ritual II > L 1 a Hawkwind Live [Imtrat] > L 1 a Hawkwind: The Masters > L 1 a Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > > * Versions 1 and 1a are from the same tour > > Urban Guerilla > L 1 Live '70/'73 > L 1 Welcome To The Future [Mausoleum LP] > L 1 Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Garagin > L 1 Hawkwind Live [Brilliant CD] > 2 Urban Guerilla/Brainbox Pollution 7" > 2 Urban Guerilla/Urban Guerilla US 7" > 2 Silver Machine/ Urban Guerilla 7" > 2 Roadhawks > 2 Stasis > 2 (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > 2 Doremi Fasol Latido [remastered CD only] > 2 Sonic Boom Killers > 2 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of > 2 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 3 Weird 104 - Hawklords/Hawkwind Live 1978 > L 4 British Tribal Music > L 4 Ironstrike > L 4 Castle Masters Collection > L 4 The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind > L 4 The Early Years Live EP > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol 1 > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 4 Acid Daze Vol 1 > L 4 The Hawkwind Collection > L 4 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 4 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > L 4 Space Is Deep > L 4 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) > L 4 The Ambient Anarchists > L 4 Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] > L 4 a Shot Down In The Night / Urban Guerilla 7" > L 4 a Sonic Boom Killers > L 4 b Live - St Albans 1979 > L 4 c The Complete '79 > > * 4a is an edited version of 4 (cut at the end) > * 4b is a poorer mix of 4 > * 4c is from the same tour as 4 > * This track appears twice on Sonic Boom Killers > > Utopia > 1 Choose Your Masques > 1 The Ambient Anarchists > Utopia '84 > L 1 Live 1982 {Utopia} > L 2 Solstice at Stonehenge 1983 > 3 Zones > 3 Zones/Stonehenge CD > 3 Utopia 1984 > 3 The Stonehenge Collection > Valium Ten > 1 Motorhead / Valium 10 12" single > 1 Friends And Relations I > 1 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > 1 Victoria double album > 1 Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords > 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 > 1 a Motorhead/ Valium Ten 7" > 1 a Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD [Flicknife] > 1 a Night of the Hawk > > * 1a is an edited version of 1 > > Vega > 1 Alien4 > 1 The Ambient Anarchists > L 2 Love In Space > > Virgin Of The World {see also: Experiment with Destiny} > L 1 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette] > 2 Sonic Attack > 2 Angels of Death > 2 The Ambient Anarchists > > * lyrics printed in Church of Hawkwind book but not used on > that album. Part lyrics only used in Sonic Attack version. > > Voice Inside My Head > SEE: Brainstorm > Void City > 1 Choose Your Masques > Void of Golden Light > SEE: The Golden Void > Void's End > SEE: The Golden Void > Wage War > L 1 Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Garagin > L 1 Hawkwind Live [Brilliant CD] > 1 a Live '70/'73 > 1 a Welcome To The Future [Mausoleum LP] > > * 1a is a cut version of 1 > > Waimea Canyon Drive > 1 Distant Horizons > Waiting For Tomorrow > 1 Angels of Death > 1 Choose Your Masques > L 2 The Golden Void > 2 a Out And Intake > > * versions 2 and 2a are from the same tour > > The War > SEE: Who's Gonna Win the War? > The War I Survived > 1 The Xenon Codex > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology > L 2 Chronicle of The Black Sword [Dojo and Griffin CD only] > Warrior at the End of Time > L 1 The 1999 Party > L 2 Hawkwind Mind Journey > L 3 Live 1982 {Warrior at the Edge Time} > L 3 a Out And Intake CD {Warrior on the Edge of Time} > > * 3a is a cut of 3 and fades earlier in the intro to The Scan > > Warriors > 1 Warrior On The Edge Of Time > Wastelands > SEE: Wastelands of Sleep > Wastelands Of Sleep > 1 The Xenon Codex > 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > 1 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > 2 The Agents of Chaos LP > 2 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > L 3 The Business Trip {Wastelands} > 4 Area S4 EP {Wastelands} > 4 Alien4 {Wastelands} > L 5 Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] {Wastelands} > L 6 Love In Space {Wastelands} > > * versions 3 onwards are instrumental only, substantially reworked. > > The Watcher > 1 Doremi Fasol Latido > L 2 The 1999 Party > Watchfield Festival > SEE: You Shouldn't Do That > SEE: Elements > SEE: Brainstorm > Watching The Grass Grow > L 1 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic > L 1 Independent Days, Vol. II > L 1 Utopia 1984 > L 1 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD > L 1 The Stonehenge Collection > L 2 Undisclosed Files > Wave upon Wave > 1 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > L 2 The Business Trip {Altair} > We Do It > L 1 In The Beginning {I do It} > L 1 The Text Of Festival {I do It} > L 1 Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. III > L 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 1 a British Tribal Music > L 1 a Acid Daze Vol. III > L 1 a Friends And Relations II (Twice Upon A Time) > L 1 a Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 > L 1 a Hawkwind, Friends & Relations: Cosmic Travellers > L 1 a Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] > L 1 a Golden Void 1969 -79 CD > L 1 b The Hawkwind Collection LP > > * 1a and 1b are cut versions of 1. > * Cosmic Travellers version remastered in 1995 > > We Took The Wrong Step Years Ago > 1 X In Search Of Space > Web Weaver > 1 Hall Of The Mountain Grill > Welcome To The Future > L 1 Glastonbury Fayre > L 1 Assassins of Allah LP > L 1 Dawn of Hawkwind CD > L 2 BBC Transcription Disc LP > L 2 Space Rock From London > L 2 a BBC Radio - Live in Concert CD > L 3 Space Ritual Alive > L 3 a Space Ritual II > L 3 a Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 3 a Ridicule > L 3 a Hawkwind Live [Imtrat] > L 3 a Hawkwind: The Masters > L 4 The 1999 Party > L 5 Bring Me The Head of Yuri Gagarin > L 5 Hawkwind Live [Brilliant CD] > L 5 Live '70/'73 > L 5 Welcome To The Future [Mausoleum LP] > L 6 Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/Hawklords {The Future} > L 7 The Business Trip {This Future} > L 8 Love In Space {Welcome} > > * 2a is remixed from 2 > * 3a is from the same tour as 3 > > What's the Matter > 1 Dawn of Hawkwind [Voiceprint CD] > Wheels > 1 Distant Horizons > L 2 Hawkwind 1997 > When the Going Gets Tough > 1 Friends And Relations III > Where are they Now? > 1 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 > The White Zone > 1 White Zone > 1 Strange Trips And Pipe Dreams > 1 The Emergency Broadcast System Samples > Who's Gonna Win The War? > L 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock > L 1 a Friends And Relations I > L 1 a Victoria double album > L 1 a Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD [Flicknife] > L 1 b Night Of The Hawk > L 1 b Independent Days, Vol. I > L 1 b Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD > L 1 c Who's Gonna Win the War?/ Time of 7" > L 2 The Complete '79 > L 2 a Live - St.Albans 1979 > 3 Levitation > 3 Ironstrike > 3 Masters of The Universe [ Marble Arch Rock CD] > 3 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > 3 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > 3 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > 3 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] > 3 a Who's Gonna Win the War?/ Nuclear Toy 7" [original release] > 3 a Sonic Boom Killers > 3 b Who's Gonna Win the War?/ Nuclear Toy 7" [rerelease] > L 4 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette] > L 4 The Hawkwind Collection > L 4 Castle Masters Collection {The War} > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 4 Acid Daze Vol. I > L 4 Space Is Deep > L 4 Best of Hawkwind > L 4 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) > L 4 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] > L 4 Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] > > * 1a, 1b, and 1c are edits & remixes of 1 > * 2a is from the same tour as 2 > * 3a is an edit of 3 > * 3b is an edit of 3a > * the end of version 4 has been slightly cut short > > Wind Of Change > 1 Hall Of The Mountain Grill > 1 Roadhawks > 1 Psychedelic Warlords/Hall of the Mountain Grill/D-Rider/Wind of Change US EP > 1 The Best of Hawkwind [EMI Metal Classics cassette] > 1 US Forces Radio album featuring Hawkwind & Jefferson Starship > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 2 Hawkwind Mind Journey > L 3 Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures > L 4 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 [Second release of tape only] > L 5 The Cyberspace Conspiracy > Window Pane > 1 White Zone > Wings > 1 Space Bandits > 1 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > 1 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] > Winter of Discontent > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > 1 a Earthed to The Ground {Now is the Winter of Our Discontent} > 1 a Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD {Winter of Our Discontent} > > * 1a has remixed vocals > > Wired Up For Sound > SEE: Earthed to the Ground > The Wizard Blew His Horn > 1 Warrior On The Edge Of Time > Wizards Of Pan Tang > SEE: Brainstorm > Words of a Song > 1 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD > 1 The Agents of Chaos > > * The lyrics for this song also used in Back in The Box > > World Of Tiers > L 1 The Complete '79 > L 1 a Live - St.Albans 1979 > 2 Levitation > 2 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > L 3 British Tribal Music > L 3 Castle Masters Collection > L 3 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I > L 3 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 3 Acid Daze Vol. I > L 3 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I CD > L 3 Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] > > * 1a is from the same tour as 1 > > Xenomorph > 1 Alien4 > L 2 Love In Space > L 2 The Emergency Broadcast System Samples > You Know You're Only Dreaming > 1 X In Search Of Space > 1 The Best of Hawkwind [EMI Metal Classics cassette] > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 2 The 1999 Party > L 3 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 {Dreaming} > L 3 In The Beginning > L 3 The Text Of Festival > L 3 Early Daze > L 3 Silver Machine [Legend CD] > L 3 Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 3 a Live '70/'73 > L 3 a Welcome To The Future [Mausoleum LP] > L 4 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed > L 5 The Business Trip {The Dream Has Ended} > > * 3a is a cut version of 3 > > Your Fantasy > L 1 Hawkwind 1997 {Fantasy} > 2 In Your Area > You Shouldn't Do That > 1 X In Search Of Space > 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] > L 2 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 > L 2 a In The Beginning > L 2 a The Text Of Festival > L 2 a Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Volume 1 > L 3 The Text of Festival LP {Sound Shouldn't Improvise} > L 3 The Text of Festival CD {Improvise, Comprise, Reprise} > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II CD > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] > L 4 Acid Daze Vol. III > L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. III LP > L 4 The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind > L 4 Night Riding > L 4 The Hawkwind Collection LP > L 4 Space Is Deep > L 4 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) > L 4 a Roadhawks > L 4 a Stasis > L 4 a (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords > L 4 a Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] > L 4 a Space Ritual Alive [remastered CD only] > L 4 b Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > L 5 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II {Watchfield Festival} > L 5 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] {Watchfield Festival} > L 5 Acid Daze Vol. II {Watchfield Festival} > L 6 Glastonbury 90 {Shouldn't Do That} > L 7 Rock City > L 8 The Business Trip {Do That} > > * Two versions of this on Text Of Festival > The CD track is misnamed for another track on the album. > * 2a is a cut of 2 > * On 4-4b You Shouldn't Do That formed the 1st half of a segue > with Seeing It As You Really Are as the encore to Space Ritual Alive > * 4 is the complete version plus intro > * 4a is version 4 with a cut intro > * 4b is version 4 with no intro > * The Watchfield festival track is a jam starting with You Shouldn't > Do That > * This occurs twice on the Anthology albums since it's also part > of the track Watchfield Festival > > You'd Better Believe It > L 1 Hall Of The Mountain Grill > L 1 a Paradox/ You'd Better Believe It 7" > L 1 a Stasis > L 1 a Lord of Light > L 1 a Hall of the Mountain Grill [remastered CD only] > L 1 a Sonic Boom Killers > > * 1a is edited from 1 > * Versions 1 and 1a both feature on the remastered > Hall of the Mountain Grill > > Zarozinia > 1 The Chronicle Of The Black Sword > 1 Zarozinia 12" EP > 1 Zarozinia/ Assault and Battery 7" > 1 Night Of The Hawk > L 2 Live Chronicles > L 2 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] > Zones > 1 Zones/ Processed 7" > 2 Zones > 2 Zones/Stonehenge CD > 2 Utopia 1984 > 2 The Stonehenge Collection > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 22 23:42:09 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:12:09 +1030 Subject: HW: Tour Updates Message-ID: wow theres some nice art there - good job people!!! Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Rx To: Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 9:46 AM Subject: Re: HW: Tour Updates > ++STAR WARRIORS > > Tour Info Updated on Mission Control >Updates > www.hawkwind.org.uk > > Also, xmas T-Shirt competition submission gallery is > online - follow HAWKXMAS FEEDBACK link from updates........ > > ++MESSAGE ENDS From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Feb 22 14:02:35 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:02:35 +0000 Subject: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix In-Reply-To: <001401c09cce$18e17a40$d2d0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: In article <001401c09cce$18e17a40$d2d0223f at michaelangelo68>, Michael W Blackman writes > Hey - anyone ou there ever read the Fab. Freak Brothers? > Yeah, you can get them in London from this *nifty* comic shop called They Walk Among Us. Apparently they give 10% discount to BOC- l'ers too, although I think the last person to claim their "Hawkwind discount" was Chris W., and he's not been in for ages either. I'm told that they're even going to be stocking the HW Chronicles, but anyone on this list will probably want to get that straight from Ade. have fun, -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Feb 23 03:44:56 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:44:56 +0000 Subject: BOC: Me 262, Prince of turbojets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Andy Gilham writes > and >rivets started flying out of his wings etc... Call this an air force? -- Jon From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Fri Feb 23 03:59:59 2001 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:59:59 +0000 Subject: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix Message-ID: Date sent: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:20:55 +1030 From: Michael W Blackman Subject: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix > Hey - anyone ou there ever read the Fab. Freak Brothers? > > I found the sight where I can order the whole set for $45 Ah but the ripoffpress site charge and additional $25 to mail them ........doh! > Hee hee good stuff Absoloutely - great chuckles. Am I right in thinking that at one time the sale of them was banned? (although availability has never been a problem..) M at xine From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 23 06:14:02 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:14:02 GMT Subject: Codex Live Chronicles mystery Message-ID: Jeremy has posted a query about the Codex, and I have to admit I'm slightly perplexed as to why we put the following, but I'm sure there's a good reason which will be explained by the various Live Chronicles experts around here [Paging Mr Swann...] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 3. Got confused understanding your comments on Elric Part 1 & 2. Elric The Enchanter 1 The Chronicle of the Black Sword Elric The Enchanter Part 1 L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] {Narration} L 2 Live Chronicles [2CD set] * version 2 is a narration of the first half of version 1 Elric The Enchanter Part 2 L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] {Elric the Enchanter} L 2 Live Chronicles [2CD set] * version 2 is the second half of version 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Feb 23 06:23:39 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:53:39 +1030 Subject: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix Message-ID: > Absoloutely - great chuckles. Am I right in thinking that at one time > the sale of them was banned? (although availability has never been > a problem..) The dreams that ole phineas would have - like the time they broke fat freddy outta jail and then they couldn't get him to leave after he found the drug room - or something like that - If it was banned it Wouldn't surprise me ... freedom of speech is not all that its cracked up to be sometimes - which reminds me of another episode ..... Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Maxine Wesley To: Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix > Date sent: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:20:55 +1030 > From: Michael W Blackman > Subject: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix > > > Hey - anyone ou there ever read the Fab. Freak Brothers? > > > > I found the sight where I can order the whole set for $45 > > Ah but the ripoffpress site charge and additional $25 to mail them > ........doh! > > > Hee hee good stuff > > Absoloutely - great chuckles. Am I right in thinking that at one time > the sale of them was banned? (although availability has never been > a problem..) > > M at xine > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 23 06:26:02 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:26:02 GMT Subject: HW: Codex - phew In-Reply-To: J D's message of Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:03:50 -0000 Message-ID: J D writes: > Just spend the best part of 2 hours combing the Codex in some detail. > Whilst it's answered loads of questions for me, it's also raised even = > more, so can anyone answer of the following for me please. > > 1. Is The Golden Void merely a vinyl copy of the Glasgow 82 BBC show? Yes. > 2. Is The Cyberspace Conspiracy a vinyl or CD bootleg of Bedrock = > (Nottingham 90)? Yes. > If so is it from the TV or video (which I believe had Wind Of Change = > as an extra track)? The video. > 3. Is the Theta Orionis bootleg of a gig or a mish-mash of rare tracks? 25.01.90 Nottingham Rock City & 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction > 4. Strange Daze 97 - is this a compilation of bands, if so, what's the = > HW tracks? Compilation. HW tracks are: Kauai Brainstorm/ Hawkwind In Your Area Hassan I Sabha/ Space Is Their Palestine > 5. Is Burn Me Up from Elf & Hawk the same as the Brockspace song? Haven't checked yet. > 6. I'm confused with the various releases of Live Chronicles. > I've got the first GWR CD release which is the same as the vinyl, = > but is the double the one with the pink/orange/white Elric sleeve? And = > what's the version with the bonus CD all about? The bonus CD was just an average compilation. > 7. Is the track on Xenon EMG or EMC (and what does it mean?)? Buggered if I know. > 8. Strange Daze 98 (see point 4 above) Compilation. Only HW track is Starfire Mountain Dreaming a.k.a Hippie > 9 Is Love In Space the only HW track on Wir Sind Der Kinder? Yes. > 10. What unique stuff is on Ambient Anarchists? The version of Love in Space is the only thing that appears nowhere else. > 11. Can anybody run me off a copy of the first cassette release of Weird = > 105 (with Paranoia). Contact me about this. > I should have made a note as I was going through it, but I notice that = > there are a handful of tracks (4 or 5) that have never made it onto CD - = > stuff like Zones, Processed, Raping Robots, When The Going Gets Tough = > etc. Yes. I did post about this at one point. I'll repost and maybe you can bring it up to date? > As for the Codex itself, an absolutely magnificent document = > incorporating humungus amounts of time & effort. Thanks. It did. > Had Mike & Jill not done this, then HW fans would be even more in the = > dark and totally confused about releases than we already are! > Keep up the good work. We'll try. > Will the Weird CDs be added (Doug Pearson did a fine job of analysing = > them)? Indeed. But as I've said, I'm very busy until at least the start of April. > Presumably Family Tree & Brockspace & Atomhenge will also be added? Uhuh. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 23 06:29:16 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:29:16 GMT Subject: Repost: Rare tracks. FAO: Jeremy Message-ID: OK, this was posted from a trawl of the Codex in 1993. A few of these versions have now made it to CD but it'd be a good starting point for an update of this list. FoFP ---- Start of forwarded text ---- > Well, from the Codex, the tracks that haven't made it to CD or LP yet: > > Etchanatae > L 1 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 > First Landing on Medusa > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > Live and Let Live > 1 Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 > Make What You Can > 1 Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 > Raping Robots in the Street > 1 Social Alliance/ Raping Robots in the Street 7" > Slap it on de Table > 1 Weird 103 - Free Festivals > Space Travellers > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > Time of > 1 Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords > 1 a Who's Gonna Win the War?/ Time of 7" > Touchdown > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > Trans Dimensional Man > 1 Weird 107 {Speed of Light} > 1 a Angels of Death/ Trans Dimensional Man 7" > Where are they Now? > 1 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 > > > And other versions of tracks you could pick on much the same basis they > picked stuff for Stasis and Lord of Light: > > > > Angels of Death > 4 a Angels of Death/ Trans Dimensional Man 7" > Back On The Streets > L 2 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 > Brainstorm > L 7 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 [Second release of tape only] > Choose Your Masks > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > Chronoglide Skyway > 2 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976/77 > D-Rider > 1 a Psychedelic Warlords/Hall of the Mountain Grill/D-Rider/Wind of Change US EP > The Fifth Second of Forever > 3 Weird 107 - Dave Brock {Circles} > Free Fall > L 3 Weird 104 - Hawklords Live 1978 > Hassan I Sabha > L 2 a Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 {Assassins of Allah} > Kings of Speed > 2 a Kings of Speed/ Motorhead 7" > Looking In The Future > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > Magnu > L 2 a Silver Machine/Magnu 7" > Master of the Universe > 2 a US double 7" EP > L 8 Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords > Mirror Of Illusion > 1 a Hurry on Sundown/ Mirror of Illusion 7" > Needle Gun > 1 a Needle Gun/ Arioch 7" > Orgone Accumulator > L 1 a US double 7" EP > PXR5 > 1 a 25 Years/ PXR5/ Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid 12" EP > Psi Power > 1 b Psi Power/Psi Power US 7" > Seven By Seven > L 3 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1983] > Silver Machine > 8 a Silver Machine 10th Anniversary 7" EP [short version] > Sonic Attack > L 3 Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords > Streets of Fear > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > Uncle Sam's On Mars > L 2 Weird 104 - Hawklords Live 1978 > Who's Gonna Win The War? > L 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock > L 1 c Who's Gonna Win the War?/ Time of 7" > 3 a Who's Gonna Win the War?/ Nuclear Toy 7" > Wind of Change > L 2 Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 [Second release of tape only] > Winter of Discontent > 1 Weird 107 - Dave Brock > Zones > 1 Zones/ Processed 7" > > ---- End of forwarded text ---- From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Feb 23 06:50:13 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:50:13 -0500 Subject: HW: Tour Updates Message-ID: The list on the website has Nottingham on April 1st and Aldershot on April 2nd. According to the Princes Hall, the Aldershot gig is on the 1st; who is right? Cheers, COLIN From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Feb 23 07:58:27 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:58:27 -0500 Subject: Codex Live Chronicles mystery In-Reply-To: <200102231114.LAA27169@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >> 3. Got confused understanding your comments on Elric Part 1 & 2. > > > >Elric The Enchanter > 1 The Chronicle of the Black Sword > >Elric The Enchanter Part 1 > L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] {Narration} > L 2 Live Chronicles [2CD set] > > * version 2 is a narration of the first half of version 1 > >Elric The Enchanter Part 2 > L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] {Elric the Enchanter} > L 2 Live Chronicles [2CD set] The song has two halves. Or rather, the original CotBS has two songs, Elric the Enchanter part 1 and Elric the Enchanter part 2. They are back to back on CotBS. On Live Chronicles, the first is on the first disc as spoken narration of one verse only. The second shows up in its entirety much later on the second disc. Of course, that is on the 2cd set, they are on the same disc on the one disc set, still split apart. Much the pity, of the two "parts" on CotBS I much prefer the first part. As for the "first half" of version 1... more like one quarter. In my mind, the codex should be amended as follows: Elric the Enchanter Part 1: 1 The Chronicle of the Black Sword L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] (Narration) L 2 Live Chronicles [2CD set] * version 2 is narration of a few lines of version 1. Elric the Enchanter Part 2: 1 The Chronicle of the Black Sword L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] (Elric the Enchanter) L 2 Live Chronicles [2 CD set] I don't have it in front of me, but if memory serves on my Live Chronicles part 2 is labeled as part 2... I am guessing from the notes that on the 1 cd set they might not have done this. ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Feb 23 08:14:44 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:14:44 EST Subject: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix Message-ID: In a message dated 2/23/01 4:01:25 AM, maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK writes: << Am I right in thinking that at one time the sale of them was banned? (although availability has never been a problem..) >> ===== um, i dont think so; no more 'banned' than the more extreme undergrounds of the era...they were sold in head shops...[remember them?] but they'd make their way into comics stores, as head shops faded out, most places. "<>" From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 23 08:24:24 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:24:24 GMT Subject: Codex Live Chronicles mystery In-Reply-To: Andrew Apold's message of Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:58:27 -0500 Message-ID: Andrew Apold writes: > > In my mind, the codex should be amended as follows: Done! > Elric the Enchanter Part 1: > 1 The Chronicle of the Black Sword > L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] (Narration) > L 2 Live Chronicles [2CD set] > > * version 2 is narration of a few lines of version 1. > > Elric the Enchanter Part 2: > 1 The Chronicle of the Black Sword > L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] (Elric the Enchanter) > L 2 Live Chronicles [2 CD set] From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Feb 23 08:57:07 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:57:07 -0500 Subject: BOC: Me 262, Prince of turbojets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Andy Gilham wrote: > Well, I can't find it on line, but it was in todays' Times... apparently > the Me 262 was the first plane to break the sound barrier. This old guy, > Hans Guido something, he's 79 now, was an Me 262 pilot, and he made a > screaming dive to join a dogfight and his speedo jammed at 1100 kph, and > rivets started flying out of his wings etc... Can anyone find something on > line to back this up? >From the New York Times: Pilot Claims He Broke Sound Barrier By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 1:54 p.m. ET BERLIN (AP) -- A former Luftwaffe pilot says he broke the sound barrier first -- not Chuck Yeager. But the German's claim cannot be verified, at least not yet. Flying alone over Austria on April 9, 1945, at the end of World War II, Hans Guido Mutke pushed his Messerschmitt 262 to full throttle in hopes of reaching a friend who had bailed out under U.S. attack. Mutke says he later realized the shaking and loss of control he felt before the plane reached 690 mph meant he had broken the sound barrier. ``I knew nothing about a sound barrier,'' he said Thursday from Munich. ``I just went full speed to help a comrade.'' Now age 79 and a retired doctor, Mutke has asked an aeronautics professor to help substantiate his claim using computer simulation. By all accepted accounts, on Oct. 14, 1947, Yeager was the first human to break the sound barrier when he flew his rocket-powered X-1 over Rogers Dry Lake in southern California. Mutke said he was cruising at 40,000 feet when he heard of his friend's trouble and went into a dive. As his jet accelerated, he said he felt his plane ``buffeting'' -- a known phenomenon of vibration before reaching the speed of sound. Mutke believes he then went supersonic -- something test pilots hadn't done previously because they usually backed off when their planes shook. ``It's like when you pass a finger slowly through a candle flame and your finger gets burned. When you move it quickly, then nothing happens,'' said Mutke. ``I went so fast through the buffeting area that it was only heavily damaged, both engines lost function and the rivets flew out of the wings.'' After landing because of the damage to his plane, Mutke denied to superiors that he had exceeded 590 mph -- the top speed then allowed. There had been several unexplained Me262 crashes earlier that Mutke speculates were caused when pilots broke the sound barrier and paid with their lives. ``I always said the first person who broke the sound barrier is the unknown pilot, exactly as we have the unknown soldier,'' Mutke said. For the last several years, Otto Wagner, a professor at Munich's Technical University, has done computer simulations to try to verify Mutke's claim. He has been able to simulate the Me262 at Mach 1.02 -- just above the speed of sound -- but he says the basic data on the plane's aerodynamics are not reliable. He's now trying to obtain wind tunnel studies from 1944 at the Messerschmitt factory in Berlin to do a more accurate simulation. ``If I had better data, then I could say it was faster than sound or not,'' Wagner said. ``Now I can't say anything.'' But the head of the Deutsches Museum air and space collection -- which houses another Me262 flown by Mutke -- rejects the pilot's claim. ``In science, you have to be able to reproduce something to put it on the record,'' said Matthias Knopp, a physicist. ``If someone says they did it, but it can't be reproduced, then many could say that they have done it.'' From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri Feb 23 08:57:16 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:57:16 -0500 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 22 Feb 2001 to 23 Feb 2001 (#2001-76) Message-ID: > Subject: Re: BOC: Me 262, Prince of turbojets > In article , Andy > Gilham writes > > and > >rivets started flying out of his wings etc... > > Call this an air force? > -- > Jon Well, I don't think the ME-262 was designed with Mach 1 in mind - then again, I don't know what everyone's knowlege of the sound barrier was before people were officially trying to break it. So, I'd be very interested in finding out if this story is true. John From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Feb 23 09:05:22 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:05:22 -0000 Subject: BOC: Me 262, Prince of turbojets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Excellent! Here's something I just found on line, and in English too: http://www.unsere-luftwaffe.de/mach1/mach1.htm -- Andy www.andygilham.com From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri Feb 23 09:38:14 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:38:14 -0500 Subject: BOC: Me 262, Prince of turbojets Message-ID: O.K., I've shown my ignorance in wondering about when people were considering breaking the sound barrier - I thought Yeager's famous flight was in the 50s, and not in 1947, 2 years after the ME-262 "may" have broken the barrier. First off, I should point out, for those who don't know, the most excellent website www.stormbirds.com, which is not only dedicated to the ME-262, but also discusses a current project to rebuild working ME-262's - yes, you could own one of your own! Anyway, on this site, there is an account of Hans Guido, although it does not discuss breaking the sound barrier - but, at the bottom of his account is a link to the following site which does discuss this: http://www.unsere-luftwaffe.de/mach1/index.htm >From that site: "Who was Really the First? When Chuck Yeager made his "memorable" flight with the Bell X-1 on 14 October 1947 it was certainly not the first time that anyone had exceeded Mach 1. Doubtless a small group of engineers at Messerschmitt had already been researching into supersonic flight in 1944/45 and the Me262 was perhaps already a first step in this direction, although it was still a subsonic aircraft. Shortly before the end of the war Messerschmitt attempted to improve on the performance of the Me262 with the development of the Me 1101 and two other variants which he already had on the drawing board. At the end of the war the first Me 1101, although far from being ready for a first flight, was in an advanced stage of construction at Oberammergau where it was inspected by a development team from the American company Bell and then taken to the USA. Bell was almost certainly already working on the development of the X-1 at this time as a supersonic aircraft. Admittedly the X-1 was a rocket powered aircraft whereas the Me262 was a jet powered aircraft. It is amazing to consider the performance that was achieved by the Me262, despite the fact that it was still not fully developed and the poor quality of wartime construction in 1944/45 which was due to the aircraft being hastily built in large numbers in different factories, partly by foreign workers and often with defective materials. The aircraft was designed for a maximum speed of 1000 km/ h but at that time none of us operational pilots were aware of the existence of the, "sound barrier" - this expression was only later invented by Prof Ackeret from Zurich. G.Mutke spoke on several occasions to Prof. Ackeret in Z?rich in the summer of 1945 although they did not discuss this subject. The pilots were under strict instructions not to exceed 950 km/h, although there was no mention in these instructions of altitude. In fact Me262s had occasionally crashed without the pilots being able to make any report. We can surmise today that these crashes were caused by pilots approaching the sound barrier and entering the area of buffeting or even crossing into the transonic area or perhaps even breaking through the sound barrier. The aircraft were then not able to withstand the resulting stresses and shock waves and finally broke up. lt would be natural for pilots to push their aircraft to the limits and some would therefore almost certainly have attempted to fly in excess of 1000 km/h although at this time the variation in the speed of sound with altitude was unknown. lt is not surprising that these pilots did not report their attempts since they were threatened with severe disciplinary action if they flew the aircraft at more than 950 km/h or did anything which caused damage to these very valuable aircraft. Apart from the existence of these unexplained crashes we have no direct evidence to support the theory that they were caused by pilots approaching the sound barrier. On a flight with a Me262, flown by G.Mutke, on 9 April 1945 over Innsbruck he entered a 40?~50? dive under full power from about 36.000 ft and broke through the sound barrier as a result of a combination offactors which on this occasion combined together in a positive manner. His claim is supported by the fact that the controls of the aircraft became totally ineffective shortly before reaching the sound barrier and then full control was regained a few moments later. At the same time both engines flamed-out and the aircraft suffered severe damage. lt is as a result of a pure coincidence that he came to realise that he must have exceeded Mach 1 on this flight on 9 April 1945 with the Me262 "Weisse 9" from III EJG-2. This occurred during a discussion with a group of test pilots during the international meeting "50 Years of Jet Powered Flight" held in Munich in 1989.. In a discussion with Wolfgang Sp?te, a well known test pilot and colonel in the German Luftwaffe, who became involved in the Me163 programme as early as 1942 and then later, after the war, carried out supersonic flights in France, we established that the sound barrier must have been broken on G.Mutke's flight in the Me262. This is based on the fact that the aircraft became uncontrollable during a strong and short buffeting phase and then control was regained, while the airspeed indicator remained on the stop at 1100 km/h, and both engines suffered a flame-out. This was published in the report of the meeting. One of the main points often repeated during later discussions was that the Me 262 was a subsonic aircraft and that neither the wing-sweep nor the wing thickness were suitable for supersonic flight. The wing-sweep was always considered to be a critical factor but this was later proved incorrect as the Bell X-1 and the F 104 were supersonic aircraft and had straight wings ,i.e. zero wing-sweep. The maximum thickness ot the aerofoil (about 11% for the Me 262) also plays an important role and is one of the reasons that when an aircraft will result. This was the case with Mutke's flight on 9 April 1945 when the Me 262 Weisse 9 was so badly damaged that it was no longer repairable. Today of course we know a lot more about the so-called "sound barrier", even though some factors are still not quite clear, and we can clearly differentiate between the configurations required for subsonic and supersonic aircraft. However at that time many pilots world-wide, especially in America and England, lost their lives due to ignorance of this critical area of flight. In G.Mutke's opinion, and with hindsight, the decisive factor was often that the pilots approached the sound barrier very cautiously, tentatively and slowly thereby exposing the aircraft to the heavy loads, shocks and vibrations of the buffeting area for too long so that the aircraft finally suffered material failure and broke-up. In the quest to exceed Mach 1 we must differentiate between the pilot's performance and that of the aircraft (the skills of the design engineers). The pilot's contribution is relatively minor since if the aircraft is capable of exceeding Mach 1 then it will do so without requiring any special skills from the pilot. This is certainly G.Mutke's experience." The page has more information, including some discussion about Chalmers H. (Slick) Goodlin having flown supersonic 6 months earlier than Yeager. Interesting stuff. Of most interest to BOC fans might be that this ME-262 "supersonic" flight took place on 9 April 1945 over Innsbruck (Austria) - not "over Westphalia", BUT "in April of '45"! :-) John From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Fri Feb 23 09:51:59 2001 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:51:59 +0000 Subject: BOC: Me 262, Prince of turbojets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Brian Halligan wrote: > Mutke said he was cruising at 40,000 feet when he heard of his friend's > trouble and went into a dive. As his jet accelerated, he said he felt his > plane ``buffeting'' -- a known phenomenon of vibration before reaching the > speed of sound. My understanding is that unless the speed has been attained in level flight, it would not be 'recognised' as a genuine record. And don't they have to make two runs, one into the wind and one with the wind following? Fascinating stuff, nevertheless. Incidentally, there is a film called The Sound Barrier (1952) directed by David Lean (of Lawrence of Arabia fame) which deals with all those issues to do with bits of the plane dropping off as it approaches Mach 1. - Mike Godwin From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 23 09:02:28 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:02:28 EDT Subject: BOC: Me 262, Prince of turbojets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 720 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 23 12:01:51 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:01:51 GMT Subject: Codex question: open for debate Message-ID: Jeremy has raised the question of whether the Spririt of the Age Solstice Remixes by Astralasia (and ?) and tracks on the Decide Your Future EP should be included in the Codex. His argument is based on whether these are truly Hawkwind tracks. This may also apply to the Scourge of the Earth remix of Silver Machine. I'd like opinions on this for the latest review of the Codex. FoFP From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Feb 23 12:11:40 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:11:40 -0600 Subject: Codex question: open for debate In-Reply-To: <200102231701.RAA14769@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, M Holmes wrote: :Subject: Codex question: open for debate : :Jeremy has raised the question of whether the Spririt of the Age :Solstice Remixes by Astralasia (and ?) and tracks on the Decide Your :Future EP should be included in the Codex. His argument is based on :whether these are truly Hawkwind tracks. : :This may also apply to the Scourge of the Earth remix of Silver Machine. : :I'd like opinions on this for the latest review of the Codex. : :FoFP my 2 cents. As much as I love Astralasia's remixes, they shouldn't be included. They aren't HW. They are folks doing neat things with HW music. If anything, they belong in an appendix or somesuch (dedicated to sightings of HW music...) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Feb 23 14:36:18 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:36:18 -0500 Subject: HW: Codex Live Chronicles mystery Message-ID: This is pure conjecture, but the original CotBS track is credited to "Brock/Davey", and it sounds to me like part 1 is the Brock composition (he recites the narration on 'Live Chronicles') and part 2 is the Davey composition (he sings it on 'Live Chronicles'). Does Alan do part 2 with Bedouin these days? -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:24:24 GMT, M Holmes wrote: >Andrew Apold writes: >> Elric the Enchanter Part 1: >> 1 The Chronicle of the Black Sword >> L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] (Narration) >> L 2 Live Chronicles [2CD set] >> >> * version 2 is narration of a few lines of version 1. >> >> Elric the Enchanter Part 2: >> 1 The Chronicle of the Black Sword >> L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] (Elric the Enchanter) >> L 2 Live Chronicles [2 CD set] From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Feb 23 14:36:04 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:36:04 -0500 Subject: HW: Codex Live Chronicles mystery Message-ID: Doug P. conjectured... >This is pure conjecture, but the original CotBS track is credited >to "Brock/Davey", and it sounds to me like part 1 is the Brock composition >(he recites the narration on 'Live Chronicles') and part 2 is the Davey >composition (he sings it on 'Live Chronicles'). Does Alan do part 2 with >Bedouin these days? Yeah, I think he did it at Hawkestra, didn't he? It was late into the night already. :) Grakkl (FAA) From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Feb 23 16:01:44 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:01:44 -0000 Subject: Codex question: open for debate Message-ID: chink! - It depends if genuine Hawkwind music is being used in the remix. If the tracks contain music originally recorded by the band which is simply being remixed then I would submit that we have to say it's a Hawkwind track (however much mutated) and add it to the Codex. If however the whole track has been recreated and it contains no genuine Hawkwind material then it's a cover and should not be in the Codex. Can anyone disintangle the tracks sufficient to make this distinction? cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 5:01 PM Subject: Codex question: open for debate > Jeremy has raised the question of whether the Spririt of the Age > Solstice Remixes by Astralasia (and ?) and tracks on the Decide Your > Future EP should be included in the Codex. His argument is based on > whether these are truly Hawkwind tracks. > > This may also apply to the Scourge of the Earth remix of Silver Machine. > > I'd like opinions on this for the latest review of the Codex. > > FoFP > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Feb 23 16:20:00 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:20:00 -0500 Subject: Codex question: open for debate Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:01:44 -0000, Jill Strobridge wrote: >chink! - > >It depends if genuine Hawkwind music is being used in the remix. >If the tracks contain music originally recorded by the band which is >simply being remixed then I would submit that we have to say it's a >Hawkwind track (however much mutated) and add it to the Codex. >If however the whole track has been recreated and it contains no >genuine Hawkwind material then it's a cover and should not be in the >Codex. Yes, this is a tough one. I believe that *all* the "remixes" DO include "genuine Hawkwind music", but in many cases, the "genuine Hawkwind music" only exists as samples played along with a new electronically/computer-generated rhythm track (which has become the definition of "remix", but is considerably more involved than an actual remix of the original multitrack recordings, but I digress). >Can anyone disintangle the tracks sufficient to make this >distinction? I would put the CDEP remixes of "Spirit of the Age" and "Uncle Sam's On Mars" in this category - they should NOT be included in the Codex. I'd also leave out the entire 'Ritual of the Solstice' CD/dbl-LP for the same reason. However, I *would* include the Astralasia remix of "Right To Decide" on the 'Decide Your Future' CDEP - it seems like that one actually is based on the original Hawkwind backing track (even though there's still additional techno beats added). The Scourge of the Earth "Silver Machine" remixes sound, as Jill says, more like a cover than a remix to me, so I'd leave them out of the Codex. On a somewhat-unrelated note, I was under the impression that CD-R's were to be left *out* of the Codex (but bootleg LP's and "manufactured" CD's would be included ... have there actually been any "manufactured" CD boots of Hawkwind? [aside from Dave Anderson?]), which would remove 'Theta Orinis' & 'Strange Daze 98' (but NOT 'SD97'). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Fri Feb 23 16:20:40 2001 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Owen O'Neill) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:20:40 GMT Subject: OFF: Greetings! In-Reply-To: <00b001c09ddb$d4810dc0$0424883e@jds> Message-ID: I was off from the list for a while, but now i've got internet again... nearly made it to the big show in London last Oct. but couldn't convince anyone to come with me, esp. since Hawkwind shows have a tendency to not happen. I'm still heartbroken since learning it all went through. saw some pictures... anyone here get to see it? I love you all! From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 23 16:23:02 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:23:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet In-Reply-To: <200102221016.FAA15211@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Zeitgeist wrote: => And don't forget to check out Ed Mundells other band, the thoroughly => splendid Atomic Bitchwax at => http://www.teepeerecords.com/theatomicbitchwax/index.html => => Utterly top notch stoner rock, replete with a killer cover of "Play The => Game" by Atomic Rooster. Plsu guset appearance by Warren Haynes (who is => now apparently back in the ALlman Brothers Band). Rock and roll! He's only back with the ABB during the Beacon run, AFAIK. After that, he's supposed to be touring with Phil & Friends again... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 23 16:43:47 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:43:47 -0500 Subject: Codex question: open for debate In-Reply-To: <200102232120.QAA22037@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: => On a somewhat-unrelated note, I was under the impression that CD-R's were => to be left *out* of the Codex (but bootleg LP's and "manufactured" CD's => would be included ... have there actually been any "manufactured" CD boots => of Hawkwind? [aside from Dave Anderson?]), which would remove 'Theta => Orinis' & 'Strange Daze 98' (but NOT 'SD97'). Off the top of my head, _Kings of Speed, Lords of Light_, _Space Rock Live From London_, and _Orgasmatron_ are all pressed ("manufactured") CD bootlegs (albeit in limited runs). Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Feb 23 16:41:29 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:41:29 -0500 Subject: HW: Codex question: open for debate Message-ID: Doug asked... >On a somewhat-unrelated note, I was under the impression that CD-R's were >to be left *out* of the Codex (but bootleg LP's and "manufactured" CD's >would be included ... have there actually been any "manufactured" CD boots >of Hawkwind? [aside from Dave Anderson?]), which would remove 'Theta >Orinis' & 'Strange Daze 98' (but NOT 'SD97'). No, Theta Orinis *is* a manufactured boot. At least mine is. Of course, it's 'mispressed' with no Space Sex, and two Gimme Shelter's (one full...one partial), despite what it says on the back cover. Are they *all* like that? Grakkl (FAA) ObCD: Salaryman-Karoshi From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Feb 23 18:15:28 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:45:28 +1030 Subject: OFF: Greetings! Message-ID: Hi Owen sorry to hear you missed the show - I travelled from Australia to see it I have a few pix at my Hawkwind wb site here: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Electric_Tepee.htm Peace Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Owen O'Neill To: Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 7:50 AM Subject: OFF: Greetings! > I was off from the list for a while, but now i've got internet again... > nearly made it to the big show in London last Oct. but couldn't convince > anyone to come with me, esp. since Hawkwind shows have a tendency to not > happen. I'm still heartbroken since learning it all went through. saw some > pictures... anyone here get to see it? > > I love you all! > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Feb 23 18:27:47 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:27:47 EST Subject: HW: Codex question: open for debate Message-ID: In a message dated 2/23/01 1:20:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > I would put the CDEP remixes of "Spirit of the Age" and "Uncle Sam's On > Mars" in this category - they should NOT be included in the Codex. agreed as far as the music, but both include samples of Calvert himself--again, debatable. I'd > also leave out the entire 'Ritual of the Solstice' CD/dbl-LP for the same > reason. However, I *would* include the Astralasia remix of "Right To > Decide" on the 'Decide Your Future' CDEP - it seems like that one actually > is based on the original Hawkwind backing track (even though there's still > additional techno beats added). Probably should include the track titled "Assassin", too, since it has the main key-board sample from SITP from IStBotFtbD. The Scourge of the Earth "Silver Machine" > remixes sound, as Jill says, more like a cover than a remix to me, so I'd > leave them out of the Codex. Chuck From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Feb 23 18:41:31 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:41:31 +0000 Subject: HW: Codex Live Chronicles mystery In-Reply-To: <200102231946.OAA22128@mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: In message <200102231946.OAA22128 at mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K Henderson writes >Doug P. conjectured... > >>This is pure conjecture, but the original CotBS track is credited >>to "Brock/Davey", and it sounds to me like part 1 is the Brock composition >>(he recites the narration on 'Live Chronicles') and part 2 is the Davey >>composition (he sings it on 'Live Chronicles'). Does Alan do part 2 with >>Bedouin these days? > >Yeah, I think he did it at Hawkestra, didn't he? Certainly did. FWIW I always thought it was far better than Part 1. -- Nick Medford From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Feb 23 18:47:48 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:47:48 -0600 Subject: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix In-Reply-To: <43Z+FCALJWl6Ew8t@comics.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Jon Browne wrote: :Subject: Re: Off subject a wee little bit - Freqak Brothers comix : :In article <001401c09cce$18e17a40$d2d0223f at michaelangelo68>, Michael W :Blackman writes :> Hey - anyone ou there ever read the Fab. Freak Brothers? :> : :Yeah, you can get them in London from this *nifty* comic shop :called They Walk Among Us. Apparently they give 10% discount to BOC- :l'ers too, although I think the last person to claim their "Hawkwind :discount" was Chris W., and he's not been in for ages either. : :I'm told that they're even going to be stocking the HW Chronicles, but :anyone on this list will probably want to get that straight from Ade. : Jon, For the next time I'm in the London area, what's the address of that comic shop? Arin (always on the hunt for good bookstores/comic shops/game stores) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Feb 23 18:59:12 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:59:12 -0000 Subject: HW: Codex - phew Message-ID: Hi, Thanx for the info. The Codex does include (with validity in my opionion) all Brock solo tracks, of which the 4 I mentioned are such. Glast 90, Complete 79, Live 82 are all included in latest version of Codex. Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Pearson To: Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 12:53 AM Subject: Re: HW: Codex - phew > On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:03:50 -0000, J D wrote: > >4. Strange Daze 97 - is this a compilation of bands, if so, what's the HW > >tracks? > > Don't have the CD in front of me, but I think there's about 4-5 Hawkwind > tracks, all of which are ones that have appeared on other live albums (I > think even other live albums with the same lineup - IYA & HW97). It *does* > have the only officially-released recording with both Brock & Turner > since 'This Is Hawkwind: Do Not Panic' & 'Out & Intake' in the mid-80s. > > >7. Is the track on Xenon EMG or EMC > > Of this, I'm not sure. > > >(and what does it mean?)? > > EMC - no idea > EMG - brand of guitar pickups > > >I should have made a note as I was going through it, but I notice that > >there are a handful of tracks (4 or 5) that have never made it onto CD - > >stuff like Zones, Processed, Raping Robots, When The Going Gets Tough etc. > > Aren't those all Brock solo tracks? > > There's a few more that haven't made it to CD (I mentioned the Charisma-era > single edits in a recent message, but the unavailability of that era's > albums is UTTERLY CRIMINAL, imho). > > >Will the Weird CDs be added (Doug Pearson did a fine job of > >analysing them)? > > Thanks! I hope so, since I'd hate to see my efforts go to waste ;^) > (especially since my research turned up a couple of minor errors in the > Codex). > > >Presumably Family Tree & Brockspace & Atomhenge will also be added? > > And the other Collectors Series live albums, too (Complete 79, Masques > Live, Glastonbury 90)? But (I would presume), only the Hawkwind tracks, > not solo recordings by Brock or other members. > > >It would be a great shame to let things slip having kept on top of > >releases thus far. > > Agreed, but doing the Weird CD's analysis really showed how much work is > involved (okay, let's see if the same bit of microphone feedback occurs at > the same point in these two different live versions of "Spirit of the > Age"? It does? Must be the same; now let's compare versions > of "Robot" ...) > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Feb 23 22:59:28 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:59:28 -0700 Subject: Codex question: open for debate In-Reply-To: <200102232120.QAA22037@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Yes, I agree, BUT..... Removing CD-Rs would, for the MOST part, remove those few fan-oriented-and-generated but still unsanctioned 'releases' that so many of us enjoy from time-to-time.... Yet I submit for the defense: 'Strange Daze 98 "Time & Space #7"' was not a pressed CD, but it was (albeit as a limited run) sanctioned by all the bands on it, and was 'almost' official, and so might be considered for inclusion? Bob? KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Douglas Pearson Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 2:20 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Codex question: open for debate On a somewhat-unrelated note, I was under the impression that CD-R's were to be left *out* of the Codex (but bootleg LP's and "manufactured" CD's would be included ... have there actually been any "manufactured" CD boots of Hawkwind? [aside from Dave Anderson?]), which would remove 'Theta Orinis' & 'Strange Daze 98' (but NOT 'SD97'). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 23 23:00:14 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:00:14 -0500 Subject: OFF: New School of Gov't Mule tour dates (fwd) Message-ID: It seems that aside from Chuck Leavell rather than Page McConnell manning the keyboards, the rumours were true about the upcoming "Gov't Mule" tour... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:09:00 EST From: JEBAAD at CS.COM To: EMULE at NETSPACE.ORG Subject: New School of Gov't Mule tour dates Gov't Mule is proud to announce the New School of Gov't Mule tour dates featuring Warren Haynes, Matt Abts, Dave Schools & Chuck Leavell. 3/29 - The Ritz, Raleigh, NC 3/30 - Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, NC 3/31 - 328 Performance Hall, Nashville, TN 4/1 - Peace Center Greenville SC 4/3 - 5 Points South, Birmingham, AL 4/4 - Georgia Theatre, Athens, GA 4/5 - Music Farm, Charleston, SC 4/6 - 3 Rivers Music Festival, Columbia, SC 4/7 - Auburn University, Auburn AL 4/8 - University of Florida, Gainesville, FL 5/5 - Orpheum Theater, New Orleans, LA Check the web site (mule.net) for on sale dates and times Thanks and see you on the road HH From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Feb 24 09:53:26 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:53:26 -0500 Subject: HW: Codex(ish) Message-ID: I have a Vynil copy of Sonic Attack that has side 1 on both sides... how many of these slipped out i wonder.. Rx From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 24 10:25:48 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:25:48 -0000 Subject: HW: Codex(ish) Message-ID: So have I 8-) It's a well-documented mis-pressing. Rare enough for a Kollector to pay a reasonable sum for but not in the "take out extra insurance and keep in a sealed airtight box" category. Though I admit it took several years of searching before I found (well actually someone found it for me!) mine!! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Rx To: Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: Re: HW: Codex(ish) > I have a Vynil copy of Sonic Attack that has side 1 > on both sides... how many of these slipped out i wonder.. > > Rx > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Feb 24 10:34:51 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:34:51 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 2/17 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck 1.Census of Hallucinations-- "Spirit of the Cat" (Opus 2) 2.Komeda-- "Disko" (The Genius of Komeda) 3.Ozric Tentacles-- "Train Oasis" (Jurassic Shift) 4.Ozone Player-- "Casino Mobile" (Insane Logic) 5.Defender-- "Orangutangs and Spooky Orphanages" (promo) 6.Barlow/Petersen/Wivinus-- "Serpent Healer" (Same) 7.Mellonova-- "Hideeho" (ST'd EP) 8.Charalambides-- "One Song" (Serotonin Ronin 2 comp) 9.Spirits Burning-- "Arcturus" (New Worlds By Design) 10.Neu!-- "Fur Immer" (Neu! 2) 11.Psychic Atters-- "Voyager 7" (Mystic Minutes) 12.Tribe of Cro-- "Ritual Meditation" (Potlach) 13.Can--"Father Cannot Yell" (Monster Movie; Cannibalism 1) 14.Nik Turner--"Prophecy" (Prophets of Time) 15.Architectural Metaphor-- "Sonic Attack" (Odysseum Galacti) thanks, Chuck From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Sat Feb 24 10:42:07 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:42:07 EST Subject: HW: Codex(ish) Message-ID: I've got a mutant sonic attack too !! ...both side 1's !...Got offered 50? for it once but turned it down From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Feb 24 11:04:05 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:04:05 -0600 Subject: HW: Mispress Sonic In-Reply-To: <200102241453.JAA24496@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >I have a Vynil copy of Sonic Attack that has side 1 >on both sides... how many of these slipped out i wonder.. > >Rx Quite a few actually...but I'd say it's pretty rare nowdays.... I think if you have something like a Doremi LP mis-pressed with Whitesnake on one side, (I don't) (thank god??)...you have a greater rarity there... please see my email re-Captain Rizz!!??? PLEASE.. m From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Sat Feb 24 12:13:59 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:13:59 EST Subject: HW: Codex(ish) Message-ID: My mispressed sonic was purchased from a collectors vinyl shop many years ago and cost me a fiver....would have been a great return if i'd taken up the ?50 offer !! The guy who owned the shop couldnt believe he'd missed it, letting me have it so cheap... From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Feb 24 12:58:02 2001 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 17:58:02 -0000 Subject: Bedouin gig dates Message-ID: Alan has the following gigs lined up, including four Hawkwind dates which I'm sure you all know about. March 23rd Army and Navy,138, Parkway, Chelmsford. 01245 354155 24th Leas Cliff Hall, Folkstone. 01303 252113 (Eves only) 25th Fairfield Hall, Croydon. Supporting Hawkwind April 1st Aldershot. Supporting Hawkwind 2nd Rock City, Nottingham. Supporting Hawkwind 3rd Irish Centre, Leeds. Supporting Hawkwind 7th Half Moon, 93,Richmond Road, Putney. 0181 7809383 14th The Mars Bar, 12 Pierpoint Street, Worcester 01905 613336 21st Axe and Cleaver,16, West Street, Boston.01205 367300 26th The Horn, Victoria Street, St. Albans 01727 844627 27th The Gander, 2 Holdenhurst Road, Bournemouth. 01202 290294 May 10th The Limelight, Crewe. 01270 255519 11th The Rigger, Marsh Parade, Newcastle-Under-Lyme. 01782 616602 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The way it is working, is that a local band(s) in town X, provides local support and books the show. We split the bill, and the draw 50/50. personnel changes: Many of you may have seen a three to four man lineup for the shows we played in the U.S. last summer. This spring marks the return of the two man lineup. Rob Eckstedt may appear on bass from time to time, however most gigs will probably be just Jay Adcock and myself. I have no plans to expand the lineup again for awhile. The only reason that Rob might not be with us, is because of geographical logistics. Those of you who have seen Sloterdijk in europe have always seen the solo lineup of just me. It is my hope to return to europe before summer's end for at least one festival, however I will not be touring there this summer in the traditional manner. In addition, I may bring Jay with me for one of these gigs, providing he can go. He wants very much to play to a european audience, but hasn't yet had the opportunity. England, Germany and The Netherlands are primary targets for me at this time, so consider it likely that Sloterdijk will play in one or more of these countries this summer. The new album: I am still working on the final mixes for two of the tunes, as well as running order and cover art. There are a few individuals to whom I plan to distribute promo copies, about 1 month prior to the general release of the material. If no other contract arrangement is made etc, then the disc will be released through mp3.com and will be ( at least for awhile) available exclusively from them. The title will be: Sloterdijk: Uranium Zone titles include but not all inclusive of: Uranium Zone Seti 79 Automaton I Iron Lung Passions Anomolies and more... Acoustic shows: There will be at least a couple of acoustic appearances this spring. Beltane Celebration at Fergie's Pub in Philadelphia will be belated as a result of a scheduling problem. I will release details later. Peace, MIke www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sat Feb 24 19:41:06 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:41:06 EST Subject: OFF-ish: In Praise of Hawkman Message-ID: There I was, a Hawkfan, starving for Hawkmusic, being forced to wait (against my will, no less) by local record schmucks who were unable to satisfy my craving. Then, one day, on the electronic wonderland known as the Internet, I saw it, El Dorado: HAWKMAN MUSIC: THE HAWKWIND COMPACT DISC STATION Gleaming, shining. Bright, friendly colors. "Open 24 hours"; offering salvation. True, there have been others: Jim at Strange Trips, Andy G, local record schmucks, a few online stores, but Hawkwman sold me 95% of my Hawkwind CDs. (% is probably higher, I didn't figger the math). Many, many hours of fun and enjoyment there. 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Someone on here should be able to answer that. Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: bedroom trancer To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 6:32 PM Subject: questions - sorry if they are stupid hi there Just wondering am i right in thinking that Dr Technical is Dave Brock??? And does anyone know if robert calvert every performed farenheit 451 with hawkwind? And was it ever recored in the studio or on a live bootleg? Did calvert era hawkwind/hawklords/sonic assassins (75-78) ever play any of calverts songs off lucky lief or captain lockhead. And lastly on atomhenge double cd and on astounding sounds is some of the guitar parts played by paul rudolph? cheers colm From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Feb 25 02:52:20 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:22:20 +1030 Subject: Fw: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? Message-ID: --------After you read my little piece check out the article below ----------- They're (The Goverments) losing money on snail mail cause we're using emails more often so they want to make up for it by charging us 5 cents an email!!! and this is on top of the internet fees we are allreay paying for.... What a big pile of cr at p - then in the not to distant future it'll rise to 10 cents etc etc Maybe audio engineers & studio owners should charge all home studio owners a fee for not using their business!!!! and the pharmecuetical companies could charge all those - that let their immune systems fight of dis-ease natuarally - a fee for not using their drugs!!! grrrrrrr michaelangelo68 at ozemail.com.au A BIG NO NO NO FROM ME ----- Original Message ----- From: Sven Hentschel To: michael blackman Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: Fw: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? ----- Original Message ----- From: GSRAY53 at aol.com To: ackerk at ticnet.com ; Texsis80 at aol.com ; cjbrown at cableone.net ; jeriburke at usa.net ; J.burke at mindspring.com ; KDelvo at aol.com ; pat_denson at msn.com ; Duerkoop at aol.com ; bjgarza4 at msn.com ; LtsPlaTenS at aol.com ; ci10 at swt.edu ; Rita.hughson at ramstein.af.mil ; janitahinds at delrio.com ; karenmt_52 at yahoo.com ; SBJones54 at aol.com ; doug.lewis at saisd.org ; sveneric at ozemail.com.au ; beckymills60 at hotmail.com ; cnail at nwol.net ; guyma at nwol.net ; SPTOO52154 at aol.com ; StairwomanRN at aol.com ; DRGUALCO at gotnet.net ; jcrain at usaonline.net ; katodd at airmail.net ; Czwirko at aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 4:41 AM Subject: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? VOTE NO ON Bill 602P!!!! > > > > > I guess the warnings were true. Federal Bill 602P > > > > > 5-cents per E-mail Sent. It figures! No more free > > > > > E-mail! We knew this was coming! Bill 602P will > > > > > permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent > > > > > charge on every delivered E-mail. Please read the > > > > > following carefully if you intend to stay online, > > > > > and continue using E-mail. > > > > > > > > > > The last few months have revealed an alarming trend in > > > > > the Government of the United States is attempting to > > > > > quietly push through legislation that will affect our > > > > > use of the Internet. > > > > > > > > > > Under proposed legislation, the US Postal Service will > > > > > be attempting to bill E-mail users out of "alternative > > > > > postage fees." Bill 602P will permit the Federal > > > > > Government to charge a 5-cent surcharge on every > > > > > E-mail delivered, by billing Internet Service > > > > > Providers at source. The consumer would then be > > > > > billed in turn by the ISP. > > > > > > > > > > Washington, DC lawyer Richard Stepp is working without > > > > > pay to prevent this legislation from becoming law. > > > > > > > > > > The US Postal Service is claiming lost revenue, due to > > > > > the proliferation of E-mail, is costing nearly > > > > > $230,000,000 in revenue per year. > > > > > > > > > > You may have noticed their recent ad campaign: "There > > > > > is nothing like a letter." Since the average person > > > > > received about 10 pieces of E-mail per day in 1998, > > > > > the cost of the typical individual would be an > > > > > additional 50 cents a day-or over $180 per year-above > > > > > and beyond their regular Internet costs. Note that > > > > > this would be money paid directly to the US Postal > > > > > Service for a service they do not even provide. > > > > > > > > > > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and > > > > > noninterference. > > > > > > > > > > You are already paying an exorbitant price for snail > > > > > mail because of bureaucratic efficiency. It currently > > > > > takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from > > > > > coast to coast. > > > > > > > > > > If the US Postal Service is allowed to tinker with > > > > > E-mail, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in > > > > > the United States. Our congressional representative, > > > > > Tony Schnell ? has even suggested a "$20-$40 per month > > > > > surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond > > > > > the governments proposed E-mail charges Note that most > > > > > of the major newspapers have ignored the story-the > > > > > only exception being the Washingtonian - which called > > > > > the idea of E-mail surcharge "a useful concept who's > > > > > time has come" (March 6th, 1999 Editorial). > > > > > > > > > > Do not sit by and watch your freedom erode away! Send > > > > > this E-mail to EVERYONE on your list, and tell all > > > > > your friends and relatives write their congressional > > > > > representative and say "NO" to Bil 602P. > > > > > > > > > > It will only take a few moments of your time and > > > > > could very well be instrumental in killing a bill we > > > > > do not want. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Feb 25 03:22:06 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:52:06 +1030 Subject: Fw: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? Message-ID: i'LL GO STAND QUIETLY IN THE CORNER NOW... sORRY DOODS ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Lister To: Michael W Blackman Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 6:28 PM Subject: RE: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? This is a hoax which has been around for years. Next time, before passing on this stuff, please check it out on. www.snopes.com I might suggest that you forward this message out to all the people you sent the original to, to stop it going any further... Stephen -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at ozemail.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2001 18:52 To: XXX; wwss; WBlinkybill63 at aol.com; Tony Melius; Steven Eyre; steve hayes; Stephen Lister; Sonnie Kenney; Simon Dixon; Sara Zaza; Robertson, Ian; rik at cy-b.org; Richard Stockwell; Richard Lockwood; Patrick Kurz; NEPTUNE RISING; Mike Parks; Mike Coleman; Merrick Martin French; M.Holmes at ed.ac.uk; Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]; Kevin Sommers; Kevin Perry; Jill Strobridge; Jerry Kranitz; iain ferguson; Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com; Hawkman; Harry Ripley; Filip Vanhuyse; Denis Regenbrecht; david hall; Dansona .; Dan Witt; Colin Allen; clubs-mail at yahoo-inc.com; Cerberus; Captain Bl at ck; BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List; Bernhard Pospiech; Arin Komins; ANDREW GARIBALDI; akomins at pobox.com Subject: Fw: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? --------After you read my little piece check out the article below ----------- They're (The Goverments) losing money on snail mail cause we're using emails more often so they want to make up for it by charging us 5 cents an email!!! and this is on top of the internet fees we are allreay paying for.... What a big pile of cr at p - then in the not to distant future it'll rise to 10 cents etc etc Maybe audio engineers & studio owners should charge all home studio owners a fee for not using their business!!!! and the pharmecuetical companies could charge all those - that let their immune systems fight of dis-ease natuarally - a fee for not using their drugs!!! grrrrrrr michaelangelo68 at ozemail.com.au A BIG NO NO NO FROM ME ----- Original Message ----- From: Sven Hentschel To: michael blackman Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: Fw: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? ----- Original Message ----- From: GSRAY53 at aol.com To: ackerk at ticnet.com ; Texsis80 at aol.com ; cjbrown at cableone.net ; jeriburke at usa.net ; J.burke at mindspring.com ; KDelvo at aol.com ; pat_denson at msn.com ; Duerkoop at aol.com ; bjgarza4 at msn.com ; LtsPlaTenS at aol.com ; ci10 at swt.edu ; Rita.hughson at ramstein.af.mil ; janitahinds at delrio.com ; karenmt_52 at yahoo.com ; SBJones54 at aol.com ; doug.lewis at saisd.org ; sveneric at ozemail.com.au ; beckymills60 at hotmail.com ; cnail at nwol.net ; guyma at nwol.net ; SPTOO52154 at aol.com ; StairwomanRN at aol.com ; DRGUALCO at gotnet.net ; jcrain at usaonline.net ; katodd at airmail.net ; Czwirko at aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 4:41 AM Subject: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? VOTE NO ON Bill 602P!!!! > > > > > I guess the warnings were true. Federal Bill 602P > > > > > 5-cents per E-mail Sent. It figures! No more free > > > > > E-mail! We knew this was coming! Bill 602P will > > > > > permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent > > > > > charge on every delivered E-mail. Please read the > > > > > following carefully if you intend to stay online, > > > > > and continue using E-mail. > > > > > > > > > > The last few months have revealed an alarming trend in > > > > > the Government of the United States is attempting to > > > > > quietly push through legislation that will affect our > > > > > use of the Internet. > > > > > > > > > > Under proposed legislation, the US Postal Service will > > > > > be attempting to bill E-mail users out of "alternative > > > > > postage fees." Bill 602P will permit the Federal > > > > > Government to charge a 5-cent surcharge on every > > > > > E-mail delivered, by billing Internet Service > > > > > Providers at source. The consumer would then be > > > > > billed in turn by the ISP. > > > > > > > > > > Washington, DC lawyer Richard Stepp is working without > > > > > pay to prevent this legislation from becoming law. > > > > > > > > > > The US Postal Service is claiming lost revenue, due to > > > > > the proliferation of E-mail, is costing nearly > > > > > $230,000,000 in revenue per year. > > > > > > > > > > You may have noticed their recent ad campaign: "There > > > > > is nothing like a letter." Since the average person > > > > > received about 10 pieces of E-mail per day in 1998, > > > > > the cost of the typical individual would be an > > > > > additional 50 cents a day-or over $180 per year-above > > > > > and beyond their regular Internet costs. Note that > > > > > this would be money paid directly to the US Postal > > > > > Service for a service they do not even provide. > > > > > > > > > > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and > > > > > noninterference. > > > > > > > > > > You are already paying an exorbitant price for snail > > > > > mail because of bureaucratic efficiency. It currently > > > > > takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from > > > > > coast to coast. > > > > > > > > > > If the US Postal Service is allowed to tinker with > > > > > E-mail, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in > > > > > the United States. Our congressional representative, > > > > > Tony Schnell ? has even suggested a "$20-$40 per month > > > > > surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond > > > > > the governments proposed E-mail charges Note that most > > > > > of the major newspapers have ignored the story-the > > > > > only exception being the Washingtonian - which called > > > > > the idea of E-mail surcharge "a useful concept who's > > > > > time has come" (March 6th, 1999 Editorial). > > > > > > > > > > Do not sit by and watch your freedom erode away! Send > > > > > this E-mail to EVERYONE on your list, and tell all > > > > > your friends and relatives write their congressional > > > > > representative and say "NO" to Bil 602P. > > > > > > > > > > It will only take a few moments of your time and > > > > > could very well be instrumental in killing a bill we > > > > > do not want. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sun Feb 25 05:15:00 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:15:00 +0000 Subject: BOC: Me 262, Prince of turbojets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My understanding is that getting too close to the sound barrier (dunno about breaking it -- maybe?) was a common problem for US pilots toward the end of the war. Apparently, you put a late-war P-51 into a dive from a sufficient height, keep the throttle open, and after a while everything starts to shake and your controls won't budge (well, not without some effort on the part of the people who provided the reports I read, or they wouldn't have reported them). But's been a _long_ time since I read the details. P-47s are cooler, anyway :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sun Feb 25 05:18:08 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:18:08 +0000 Subject: Bedouin gig dates In-Reply-To: <002501c09e8e$a60eb420$ca22989e@neil> Message-ID: So it would seem that he couldn't be arsed to sort out a gig in Cambridge, then, despite being invited! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Feb 25 06:36:03 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:36:03 -0000 Subject: HW: Codex(ish) Message-ID: As a retailer, it's times like that you wish you had the gift of foresight - back in the Lotus days, we received about 100 of that thing and sent them all back to the company who presumably destroyed them, as ever.. Andy Garbaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 3:25 PM Subject: Re: HW: Codex(ish) > So have I 8-) It's a well-documented mis-pressing. Rare enough > for a Kollector to pay a reasonable sum for but not in the "take out > extra insurance and keep in a sealed airtight box" category. > Though I admit it took several years of searching before I found > (well actually someone found it for me!) mine!! > > jill > > I have a Vynil copy of Sonic Attack that has side 1 > > on both sides... how many of these slipped out i wonder.. > > From starcannibal at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Feb 25 07:21:55 2001 From: starcannibal at HOTMAIL.COM (Star Cannibal) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:21:55 -0000 Subject: Bedouin gig dates Message-ID: >So it would seem that he couldn't be arsed to sort out a gig in >Cambridge, then, despite being invited! Or maybe it's just that he has other things to do right now than play a short notice, one off gig to keep someone's little party running. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sun Feb 25 07:48:26 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:48:26 +0000 Subject: Bedouin gig dates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>So it would seem that he couldn't be arsed to sort out a gig in >>Cambridge, then, despite being invited! > >Or maybe it's just that he has other things to do right now than play a >short notice, one off gig to keep someone's little party running. Hardly what one could call short notice, given that the Cambridge Rock Society, has been organizing various gigs and Bedouin was one of the first bands they contacted many, many months ago. Other gigs whose arrangements began then have come and gone and come and gone .... Weird not to at least contact people who want to pay you money to play when you organize your tour, but, well, there you go. Dunno what party you're talking about, though (?). I'm sure you meant something by it. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Feb 25 08:07:27 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:07:27 EST Subject: OFF: " atmospheric, like hawkwind, japanese [?] lady vocalist" Message-ID: and my friend Diana wrote me last night: :: <> ===== ...and she was tight! i have no idea. but perhaps someone amongst ye can clue us in. thanks, gang! "<>" From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Feb 25 09:02:57 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:02:57 +0000 Subject: OFF: " atmospheric, like hawkwind, japanese [?] lady vocalist" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , DASLUD at AOL.COM writes >and my friend Diana wrote me last night: :: > > ><they were playing something that reminded me of hawkwind -- very atmospheric >-- but they had a japanese (i think) woman singing. her singing style >reminded me of kate bush. >i really liked the combination but never found out what group it was. > >probably you'll have no idea either. i would have liked to hear more.>> >===== >...and she was tight! i have no idea. > >but perhaps someone amongst ye can clue us in. > >thanks, gang! > >"<>" Not sure, but I recall reading about an all-female Japanese space/psych band - they played some dates with Daevid Allen in the States recently- maybe the same band? Can't remember the name. Anyone? -- Nick Medford From chrisr at TIAC.NET Sun Feb 25 09:17:43 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:17:43 -0500 Subject: BOC: Another bootleg tree, a little different this time. Message-ID: Hello Brad, I received the discs yesterday and really like the show a lot. Excellent sound quality and great music. Thanks again for being generous with your time and energy to make this available for us. Take care, Chris "Brad M. Lauchnor" wrote: > It has been long enough since the last BOC tree! I have a great bootleg that has been around for a while but is such great quality that I want to make sure everyone gets a copy. I traded for this during the last tree and can't remember who I traded with :( but whoever it was - THANKS! This bootleg is the infamous "The Thing!" > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Feb 25 10:01:36 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:01:36 -0000 Subject: HW: Banco de Gaia/New Elric Book Message-ID: I was listening to one of the early/rare Banco De Gaia tracks called 'Soufie' today, and in the first section theres an underlying sample, that sounds exactly like Niks vocal stuff from Xitintoday. I can't quite make it out though, anyone else heard this/know if it is a sample from Xitintoday? Anyone read the new Elric book, and is it any good? Rich From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Feb 25 10:21:46 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:21:46 -0000 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles Message-ID: I noticed the Ozric tentacles Tour Dates are up on their website. Excluding Whitley Bay, apparently the dome is near collapse after bad weather according to the venue website. Rich From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Feb 25 11:37:28 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:37:28 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Fw: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? In-Reply-To: <002401c09f04$10540040$5cd0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: => i'LL GO STAND QUIETLY IN THE CORNER NOW... [[...]] => VOTE NO ON Bill 602P!!!! [[...Original e-mail hoax for which Michael was apologising omitted...]] Whilst you're standing in the corner, would you please take a little time and learn how to trim your messages when replying? I'm certain those who receive BOC-L in digest form will be thankful. I mean, was it strictly necessary to include the entire original hoax spam in your apology message? Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose? I'm sure a guy who is clever enough to program synths can learn how to delete spurious text. Please don't prove me wrong... ;-) Cheers, Paul. NP: North Mississippi Allstars, Memphis, TN, 2000-11-25 e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Feb 25 11:50:46 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:50:46 -0000 Subject: OFF: Australia/New Zealand Jobs Message-ID: This post is way off, however: To all the OZ/NZ list members, if any of you know what the IT job situation is down there, as I'm thinking about trying to come down there to work if I can. If any of you have any info about this can you email me off list, as I'm keen to live down your way for a while, it's too cold here in uk. Cheers Rich rich.warren at btinternet.com From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Feb 25 13:15:33 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:15:33 -0500 Subject: BOC: tour dates from Mel Message-ID: March 2001 31 - Highland, CA - San Manuel Casino April 2001 12 - Scranton, PA - radio station anniv. party May 2001 4 - Atlanta, GA - Midtown Music Fest 5 - Las Vegas, NV - Sunset Station 6 - Lake Charles, LA - Lake Charles Civic Center 12 - Trenton, NJ - Sovereign Bank Arena 18 - Richardson, TX - Greenway Office Park NEW! 25 - Reno, NV - Hilton Amphitheatre NEW! 26 - Tahoe, CA - Caesar's Tahoe NEW! June 2001 16 - Hart, MI - Val du Lakes NEW! 22 - Benton Harbor, MI - Lake Michigan College 30 - Humboldt, IA - Joe Sheldon Park biker rally NEW! July 2001 13 - McHenry, IL 19 - Waukesha, WI - Waukesha County Fair 28 - Signal Hill, CA - Green on the Hill August 2001 2 - Watertown, WI - Riverfest 3 - Sheboyagan, WI - Bratwurst Festival NEW! 4 - Chicago, IL - Navy Pier 25 - Green Bay, WI - Oneida Casino From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Sun Feb 25 15:37:06 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:37:06 +1300 Subject: Australia/New Zealand Jobs In-Reply-To: <000d01c09f4b$1d4fb360$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: > To all the OZ/NZ list members, if any of you know what the IT job situation is down there, as I'm thinking about trying to come down there to work if I > can. > > If any of you have any info about this can you email me off list, as I'm keen to live down your way for a while, it's too cold here in uk. You could likely walk into any IT job you like (depending on qualifications & knowledge) I would think. Check out this link: http://www.idg.net.nz/webhome.nsf Go to top right hand corner under "Job Universe". This is a New Zealand site. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Feb 25 16:59:30 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:59:30 -0000 Subject: Australia/New Zealand Jobs Message-ID: Thanks Richard I'll Check That Out Richard W From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Feb 25 17:20:12 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:20:12 -0000 Subject: HW: Levi's Ad = Upside Down Message-ID: Hi, Saw the new Levi's ad (the one with people's arms, legs & heads rotating through 360 degrees etc) and instantly thought the music resembled Upside Down! Anybody think the same or have I finally gone totally insane? Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Feb 25 18:45:22 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:45:22 +0000 Subject: OFF: " atmospheric, like hawkwind, japanese [?] lady vocalist" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The name just came to me: Angel In Heavy Syrup. (no I don't know what it means either). Might be the band your friend heard. -- Nick Medford From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Sun Feb 25 19:04:12 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:04:12 +1300 Subject: OFF: " atmospheric, like hawkwind, japanese [?] lady vocalist" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> The name just came to me: Angel In Heavy Syrup. (no I don't know what it means either). Might be the band your friend heard. Angels in Heavy Syrup are an all girl Japanese band that play psychedelic hard/stoner rock from what I know of them. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Feb 25 19:35:51 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:05:51 +1030 Subject: OFF: Australia/New Zealand Jobs Message-ID: There seems to be a high demand here in south australia - don't know about the other States If you like I could send you scans of the employment section in the Adelaide newspaper? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Warren To: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 3:20 AM Subject: OFF: Australia/New Zealand Jobs > This post is way off, however: > > To all the OZ/NZ list members, if any of you know what the IT job situation > is down there, as I'm thinking about trying to come down there to work if I > can. > > If any of you have any info about this can you email me off list, as I'm > keen to live down your way for a while, it's too cold here in uk. > > Cheers > > Rich > > > rich.warren at btinternet.com From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sun Feb 25 22:00:49 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:00:49 -0600 Subject: New Elric Book Message-ID: Rich Warren wrote: :Anyone read the new Elric book, and is it any good? not yet out over on this side of the pond. US (mass) hardcover looks to be released in April, and the limited edition from American Fantasy looks to be released in March. just took a quick look on amazon.co.uk, and it looks to be out as of 2/16. all 3 have different covers. sigh. for the kollector.... Arin (I think the UK edition may have slightly different text too...) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM Sun Feb 25 22:58:19 2001 From: riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM (Phillip A Jaeger) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:58:19 -0600 Subject: Fw: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? Message-ID: More info available at: http://www.house.gov/markgreen/602p.htm Michael W Blackman wrote: > i'LL GO STAND QUIETLY IN THE CORNER NOW...sORRY DOODS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Lister > To: Michael W BlackmanSent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 6:28 PMSubject: > RE: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? > This is a hoax which has been around for years. Next time, before > passing on this stuff, please check it out on. www.snopes.comI might > suggest that you forward this message out to all the people you sent > the original to, to stop it going any further... > Stephen -----Original Message----- > From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, 25 February 2001 18:52 > To: XXX; wwss; WBlinkybill63 at aol.com; Tony Melius; Steven Eyre; steve > hayes; Stephen Lister; Sonnie Kenney; Simon Dixon; Sara Zaza; > Robertson, Ian; rik at cy-b.org; Richard Stockwell; Richard Lockwood; > Patrick Kurz; NEPTUNE RISING; Mike Parks; Mike Coleman; Merrick Martin > French; M.Holmes at ed.ac.uk; Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]; Kevin Sommers; > Kevin Perry; Jill Strobridge; Jerry Kranitz; iain ferguson; > Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com; Hawkman; Harry Ripley; Filip Vanhuyse; Denis > Regenbrecht; david hall; Dansona .; Dan Witt; Colin Allen; > clubs-mail at yahoo-inc.com; Cerberus; Captain Bl at ck; BOC/Hawkwind > Discussion List; Bernhard Pospiech; Arin Komins; ANDREW GARIBALDI; > akomins at pobox.com > Subject: Fw: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? > > > --------After you read my little piece check out the article > below ----------- They're (The Goverments) losing money on > snail mail cause we're using emails more often so they want > to make up for it by charging us 5 cents an email!!! and > this is on top of the internet fees we are allreay paying > for.... What a big pile of cr at p - then in the not to distant > future it'll rise to 10 cents etc etc Maybe audio engineers > & studio owners should charge all home studio owners a fee > for not using their business!!!! and the pharmecuetical > companies could charge all those - that let their immune > systems fight of dis-ease natuarally - a fee for not using > their drugs!!! grrrrrrrmichaelangelo68 at ozemail.com.au A BIG > NO NO NO FROM ME > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sven Hentschel > To: michael blackmanSent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 4:41 > PMSubject: Fw: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: GSRAY53 at aol.com > To: ackerk at ticnet.com ; Texsis80 at aol.com ; > cjbrown at cableone.net ; jeriburke at usa.net ; > J.burke at mindspring.com ; KDelvo at aol.com ; pat_denson at msn.com > ; Duerkoop at aol.com ; bjgarza4 at msn.com ; LtsPlaTenS at aol.com ; > ci10 at swt.edu ; Rita.hughson at ramstein.af.mil ; > janitahinds at delrio.com ; karenmt_52 at yahoo.com ; > SBJones54 at aol.com ; doug.lewis at saisd.org ; > sveneric at ozemail.com.au ; beckymills60 at hotmail.com ; > cnail at nwol.net ; guyma at nwol.net ; SPTOO52154 at aol.com ; > StairwomanRN at aol.com ; DRGUALCO at gotnet.net ; > jcrain at usaonline.net ; katodd at airmail.net ; > Czwirko at aol.comSent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 4:41 > AMSubject: Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? > > > > Vote No !!! Charge us for E-Mail ??? > > > > VOTE NO ON Bill 602P!!!! > > > > > > > > > > I guess the warnings were true. Federal Bill 602P > > > > > > > 5-cents per E-mail Sent. It figures! No more free > > > > > > > E-mail! We knew this was coming! Bill 602P will > > > > > > permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent > > > > > > charge on every delivered E-mail. Please read the > > > > > > > following carefully if you intend to stay online, > > > > > > and continue using E-mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > The last few months have revealed an alarming > trend in > > > > > > the Government of the United States is attempting > to > > > > > > quietly push through legislation that will affect > our > > > > > > use of the Internet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Under proposed legislation, the US Postal Service > will > > > > > > be attempting to bill E-mail users out of > "alternative > > > > > > postage fees." Bill 602P will permit the Federal > > > > > > Government to charge a 5-cent surcharge on every > > > > > > E-mail delivered, by billing Internet Service > > > > > > Providers at source. The consumer would then be > > > > > > billed in turn by the ISP. > > > > > > > > > > > > Washington, DC lawyer Richard Stepp is working > without > > > > > > pay to prevent this legislation from becoming law. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The US Postal Service is claiming lost revenue, > due to > > > > > > the proliferation of E-mail, is costing nearly > > > > > > $230,000,000 in revenue per year. > > > > > > > > > > > > You may have noticed their recent ad campaign: > "There > > > > > > is nothing like a letter." Since the average > person > > > > > > received about 10 pieces of E-mail per day in > 1998, > > > > > > the cost of the typical individual would be an > > > > > > additional 50 cents a day-or over $180 per > year-above > > > > > > and beyond their regular Internet costs. Note > that > > > > > > this would be money paid directly to the US Postal > > > > > > > Service for a service they do not even provide. > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and > > > > > > noninterference. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are already paying an exorbitant price for > snail > > > > > > mail because of bureaucratic efficiency. It > currently > > > > > > takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered > from > > > > > > coast to coast. > > > > > > > > > > > > If the US Postal Service is allowed to tinker with > > > > > > > E-mail, it will mark the end of the "free" > Internet in > > > > > > the United States. Our congressional > representative, > > > > > > Tony Schnell ? has even suggested a "$20-$40 per > month > > > > > > surcharge on all Internet service" above and > beyond > > > > > > the governments proposed E-mail charges Note that > most > > > > > > of the major newspapers have ignored the story-the > > > > > > > only exception being the Washingtonian - which > called > > > > > > the idea of E-mail surcharge "a useful concept > who's > > > > > > time has come" (March 6th, 1999 Editorial). > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not sit by and watch your freedom erode away! > Send > > > > > > this E-mail to EVERYONE on your list, and tell > all > > > > > > your friends and relatives write their > congressional > > > > > > representative and say "NO" to Bil 602P. > > > > > > > > > > > > It will only take a few moments of your time and > > > > > > could very well be instrumental in killing a bill > we > > > > > > do not want. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Mon Feb 26 03:32:14 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:32:14 -0000 Subject: HW: Message for Dave/Kris Message-ID: We'd (we being the people who've uploaded tracks) wondered if you'd had any chance to look at the Hawkwind Covers page at http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/hwcovers.asp and whether you'd got any feedback. There's now almost 20 Hawkwind tracks on the page, with more being added quite regularly. We'd all like to get an 'official' sanction for it, maybe even to the extent of being able to put the tracks on CD for list members (not forgetting royalties :-)). Any comments? --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK Mon Feb 26 04:48:04 2001 From: m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK (Merrick Martin French) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:48:04 +0000 Subject: Bedouin gig dates Message-ID: mornin all, does anyone have a contact no. (or URL) for the leeds irish centre ?? the url for rock city is : www.rock-city.co.uk (for what its worth !!) Merrick French From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Mon Feb 26 05:15:15 2001 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas, Guy) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:15:15 -0000 Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL Message-ID: Gimme a call if you need a bassist/vocalist! Guy -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] Sent: 21 February 2001 22:23 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL > Carl, who now has one of his guitars back with him and feels pretty > good about that :) This means I'm going to have to dust off my synth, doesn't it... ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Mon Feb 26 05:52:33 2001 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas, Guy) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:52:33 -0000 Subject: HW: Codex Live Chronicles mystery Message-ID: Doug - I don't know if it is included in his set or not! When Bedoiun played at the West One Four Club last year, with "Snorkwind" as support, (ie Alan, Danny and Huw - with Terry on drums for the encore), Snorkwind played Moonglum in the soundcheck, and went straight into Elric pt2. I'm positive that this was not really meant to happen, as Alan was trying to preserve his voice for the Bedouin set, (he had a stonker of a cold!) Alas they didn't play it during the gig, but it was so "spontaneous" during the soundcheck - like stepping back to November 1985! IMHO - Moonglum just isn't quite right on its own! Guy -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Pearson [mailto:ceres at SIRIUS.COM] Sent: 23 February 2001 19:36 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Codex Live Chronicles mystery This is pure conjecture, but the original CotBS track is credited to "Brock/Davey", and it sounds to me like part 1 is the Brock composition (he recites the narration on 'Live Chronicles') and part 2 is the Davey composition (he sings it on 'Live Chronicles'). Does Alan do part 2 with Bedouin these days? -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:24:24 GMT, M Holmes wrote: >Andrew Apold writes: >> Elric the Enchanter Part 1: >> 1 The Chronicle of the Black Sword >> L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] (Narration) >> L 2 Live Chronicles [2CD set] >> >> * version 2 is narration of a few lines of version 1. >> >> Elric the Enchanter Part 2: >> 1 The Chronicle of the Black Sword >> L 2 Live Chronicles [single CD] (Elric the Enchanter) >> L 2 Live Chronicles [2 CD set] From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Mon Feb 26 05:53:27 2001 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas, Guy) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:53:27 -0000 Subject: HW: Codex Live Chronicles mystery Message-ID: Don't think it was played at Brixton? Maybe wrong! Guy -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson [mailto:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] Sent: 23 February 2001 19:36 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Codex Live Chronicles mystery Doug P. conjectured... >This is pure conjecture, but the original CotBS track is credited >to "Brock/Davey", and it sounds to me like part 1 is the Brock composition >(he recites the narration on 'Live Chronicles') and part 2 is the Davey >composition (he sings it on 'Live Chronicles'). Does Alan do part 2 with >Bedouin these days? Yeah, I think he did it at Hawkestra, didn't he? It was late into the night already. :) Grakkl (FAA) From r.burton at HW.AC.UK Mon Feb 26 06:10:34 2001 From: r.burton at HW.AC.UK (Rob Burton) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:10:34 -0000 Subject: bedouin gig dates. Message-ID: I live in Scotland and saw Bedouin at the hawkestra gig at Brixton. Thought they were fantastic so, why, Alan , are there no dates further north than Leeds. Don't forget us up here. How about Glasgow or Edinburgh dates or even my local student union in Galashiels. Would also like to get Bedouin/Alan Davey cd's - any recommendations as the first and best to purchase and where to buy from. Probably have to order on line as nearest recprd shops - hmv in Edinburgh don't stock real music. Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Mon Feb 26 07:10:55 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 07:10:55 EST Subject: Hawkwind/Aldershot gig info Message-ID: Hi everybody. Happy Monday. Does anybody out there have any info on the Aldershot Hawkwind gig on April 1. I'm looking for a box office phone number, or ticket service that sells tickets for the venue. Does anyone know if this venue is a seated theater, or a standing room situation? If anyone has any details about this, I'd appreciate hearing from hem. Thanks, yours, Eli Friedman From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Feb 26 07:20:42 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:20:42 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind/Aldershot gig info In-Reply-To: <94.109accc6.27cba1cf@aol.com> Message-ID: http://www.theatresonline.com/theatres/aldershot/princes%20hall/index.asp is an in-progress web site with address and phone number: Princes Hall Princes Way, Aldershot, Hampshire. GU11 1NX - Telephone: 01252 329155 -- Andy www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Feb 26 07:24:28 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:24:28 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind/Aldershot gig info In-Reply-To: <94.109accc6.27cba1cf@aol.com> Message-ID: And here's an even lovelier site, with a nice section on booking your wedding reception (really!): http://www.rushmoor.gov.uk/princes/ -- Andy www.andygilham.com From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Mon Feb 26 09:26:54 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:26:54 -0500 Subject: Cyberpolice disable SLOTERDIJK from logging in to MP3.com Message-ID: As if things weren't bad enough, my having had my website unpublished under my nose by webtv without waning; but now they have disabled me from even being able to log in to MP3.com. They are not allowing me to access any site which requires a password, i.e. a secure site, so I probably won't be able to build even a temporary site while I look for something else. It is as if they are just pulling everything out from under me, having left me with only e-mail capability.. Nonethelss, I will be looking for a computer this week, and try to rebuild something out if the chaos which is currently ensuing. This will take time though. Thanks to everyone for your support... Mike (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Feb 26 09:32:25 2001 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:32:25 -0000 Subject: Cyberpolice disable SLOTERDIJK from logging in to MP3.com In-Reply-To: <15175-3A9A67AE-3296@storefull-112.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Message-ID: If you want to mail me the files I can host them somewhere for you on a temporary basis. Cheers, Rich rich at beerpowerednoisefrenzy.co.uk > > As if things weren't bad enough, my having had my website unpublished > under my nose by webtv without waning; but now they have disabled me > from even being able to log in to MP3.com. They are not allowing me to > access any site which requires a password, i.e. a secure site, so I > probably won't be able to build even a temporary site while I look for > something else. > > It is as if they are just pulling everything out from under me, having > left me with only e-mail capability.. > > Nonethelss, I will be looking for a computer this week, and try to > rebuild something out if the chaos which is currently ensuing. This will > take time though. > > Thanks to everyone for your support... > > Mike (Sloterdijk) > > > www.mp3.com/sloterdijk > > http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Feb 26 10:48:55 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:48:55 EST Subject: OFF: (not music) The EU and the modification of English! Message-ID: Important announcement below: The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for what will be known as Euro English ("Euro" for short). In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c". Sertainly, sivil servants will reseive this news with joy. Also, the hard "c" will be replaced with "k". Not only will this klear up konfusion, but typewriters kan have one fewer letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced by "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20 per sent shorter. In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent "e"s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go. By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" by "z" and "w" by "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou", and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters. After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Feb 26 11:24:37 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:24:37 -0500 Subject: HW: Taste Video Message-ID: Does anyone know if Taste Productions are still around and, if so, where they van be contacted? Cheers, COLIN From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Feb 26 14:58:33 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:58:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: " atmospheric, like hawkwind, japanese [?] lady vocalist" Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:02:57 +0000, Nick Medford wrote: >In message , DASLUD at AOL.COM writes >>and my friend Diana wrote me last night: :: >> >> >><>they were playing something that reminded me of hawkwind -- very >>atmospheric >>-- but they had a japanese (i think) woman singing ... >> >>===== >>...and she was tight! i have no idea. >> >>but perhaps someone amongst ye can clue us in. >> >Not sure, but I recall reading about an all-female Japanese space/psych >band - they played some dates with Daevid Allen in the States recently- That would be eX-Girl, who aren't very space/psych but are still quite ... erm ... interesting. Sort of like the Residents meets Hello Kitty (if you can picture that) ... see: http://0505.net/ex-girl/ >maybe the same band? Can't remember the name. Anyone? > >The name just came to me: Angel In Heavy Syrup. (no I don't know what >it means either). Might be the band your friend heard. Yes, they sound exactly like what you're describing. Great band! Atmospheric, melodic, very psychedelic. I would call them more prog (lots of tempo/key changes, but always very tasteful & melodic, never gratuitous) than stoner ... they're not real heavy, although some of their stuff is nicely fuzz&wah-drenched. Highly recommended (and at least one of their albums is available domestically in the US on Subterranean Records; their releases on Alchemy/Japan will obviously be more expensive and more difficult to track down; Forced Exposure probably has 'em) ... Useless trivia: The first time Angel in Heavy Syrup toured the states, Nanjo, bassist from the motor-psycho fuzz-blanga band High Rise, was travelling with them (he was dating one of the band at the time), so (being a HUGE fan of High Rise) I asked him if they'd do a track for the Hawkwind tribute album I was planning at the time (yes, this was several years ago) ... he wrote down a list of his favorite bands/genres, but Hawkwind wasn't one of them (so obviously it's not where they got their name) ... oh well. (At least I got to pester him about it last year when High Rise stayed at my house for a few days after playing SF & San Jose, and he 'fessed up to liking Hawkwind now...) The second time they toured the states, Monoshock opened for them in San Francisco, but I had to miss the Angel' set because the Dead C were playing across town that night - I HATE it when there are two great shows in one night! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Feb 26 21:11:45 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:11:45 +0800 Subject: Black Sword DVD Message-ID: Hi there The sound is very low on my player, which is a standalone Pioneer. I believe (As well as others who bought the DVD) that it is a poor mastering job, as far as the audio goes. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 6:45 PM Subject: Black Sword DVD > I've just installed a Pioneer DVD player into the 'puter. Playing the > Black Sword video results in extremely low volume, even at max on the > DVD player software and upping it in the audio control panel. > > Can anyone confirm that it's the equipment and not the Black Sword disc > itself? > > Better still, can anyone suggest what the problem might be, or a > solution? > > The setup is: > > Win 95 550 MHx Pentium system > Pioneer U04S SCSI DVD player > Fiji soundcard > ASUSDVD software player > > FoFP > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 27 05:27:55 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:27:55 GMT Subject: bedouin gig dates. In-Reply-To: Rob Burton's message of Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:10:34 -0000 Message-ID: Rob Burton writes: > > I live in Scotland and saw Bedouin at the hawkestra gig at Brixton. = > Thought they were fantastic so, why, Alan , are there no dates further = > north than Leeds. Don't forget us up here. How about Glasgow or = > Edinburgh dates or even my local student union in Galashiels. Good God! Surely we're not letting Gala lads on the list now? -- A Teri FoFP :-) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 27 05:34:48 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:34:48 GMT Subject: Codex question: open for debate In-Reply-To: Douglas Pearson's message of Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:20:00 -0500 Message-ID: On the qustion of the remixes, I'd tend to a purist all or nothing aproach. I.E that affected songs are either in or out. Those being: The 4 Spirit of the Age remixes on Rituals of the Solstice Right to Decide and Assassin on Decide Your Future Uncle Sam's on Mars (2 mixes) on the Quark single CD SCourge of the Earth Silver Machine mixes The debate here is moving towards me classifying them more as Hawkwind covers than Hawkwind songs and having them all removed from the codex. Thoughts? FoFP From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Tue Feb 27 05:52:58 2001 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas, Guy) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:52:58 -0000 Subject: Codex question: open for debate Message-ID: I agree! They obviously don't belong in the main body of the Codex, but then again, they are not strictly cover versions either! If a song contains any portion of original HW material, then it should probably be classified as a remix. Howzabout a couple of appendixes? Appendix A for remixes, Appendix B for cover versions. On the same train of thought, you could have a further appendix for solo HW member's versions of HW songs. Jeez how many versions would you have to list for Nik's "Watching the Grass Grow" !! Guy T. -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] Sent: 27 February 2001 10:35 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Codex question: open for debate On the qustion of the remixes, I'd tend to a purist all or nothing aproach. I.E that affected songs are either in or out. Those being: The 4 Spirit of the Age remixes on Rituals of the Solstice Right to Decide and Assassin on Decide Your Future Uncle Sam's on Mars (2 mixes) on the Quark single CD SCourge of the Earth Silver Machine mixes The debate here is moving towards me classifying them more as Hawkwind covers than Hawkwind songs and having them all removed from the codex. Thoughts? FoFP From impointer at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Feb 27 07:37:13 2001 From: impointer at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Ian=20Pointer?=) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:37:13 +0000 Subject: Codex question: open for debate In-Reply-To: <997CDAC4BBC5D211BE0B0008C70D298F02AE8D9F@lnnt47.london.entoil.com> Message-ID: Having separate Annexes for remixes for me sounds sensible to me. However the band themselves have 'covered' their own songs a few times, e.g. Mask of Morning (Hawkwind and Electric Teepee), Deathtrap (PXR5 and Alien), Psychedelic Warlords (Mountain Grill and Huw's vocal version B side). Not too mention the numerous differing live version - so the remixes should be there. --- "Thomas, Guy" wrote: > I agree! > > They obviously don't belong in the main body of the > Codex, but then again, > they are not strictly cover versions either! If a > song contains any portion > of original HW material, then it should probably be > classified as a remix. > > Howzabout a couple of appendixes? Appendix A for > remixes, Appendix B for > cover versions. > > On the same train of thought, you could have a > further appendix for solo HW > member's versions of HW songs. Jeez how many > versions would you have to list > for Nik's "Watching the Grass Grow" !! > > Guy T. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: M Holmes > [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] > Sent: 27 February 2001 10:35 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Codex question: > open for debate > > On the qustion of the remixes, I'd > tend to a purist all or > nothing > aproach. I.E that affected songs are > either in or out. Those > being: > > The 4 Spirit of the Age remixes on > Rituals of the Solstice > > Right to Decide and Assassin on > Decide Your Future > > Uncle Sam's on Mars (2 mixes) on the > Quark single CD > > SCourge of the Earth Silver Machine > mixes > > The debate here is moving towards me > classifying them more > as Hawkwind > covers than Hawkwind songs and > having them all removed from > the codex. > > Thoughts? > > FoFP ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 27 08:20:02 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:50:02 +1030 Subject: bedouin gig dates. Message-ID: This is a Scottish thing? Hy Mike - I put that caption under your photo as requested ((Sam Fox)) Remember? Mike Bl at ckman ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 8:57 PM Subject: Re: bedouin gig dates. > Rob Burton writes: > > > > I live in Scotland and saw Bedouin at the hawkestra gig at Brixton. = > > Thought they were fantastic so, why, Alan , are there no dates further = > > north than Leeds. Don't forget us up here. How about Glasgow or = > > Edinburgh dates or even my local student union in Galashiels. > > > Good God! Surely we're not letting Gala lads on the list now? > > -- A Teri FoFP > > :-) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 27 08:22:18 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:52:18 +1030 Subject: VOTE 1 for Hawkwind Festival & Holliday Getaway!!! Message-ID: Lets get the show on the road everybody now!!! VOTE 1 for Hawkwind Festival & Weekend Holiday Getaway!!! Yaaaaaaaaaaa hoooooooooooooo gidyup -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 27 08:42:47 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:42:47 +0800 Subject: Codex question: open for debate Message-ID: Hi As they are on albums actually credited to the name Hawkwind, I think they should still be in the list, but with the note that they are remixes. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 6:34 PM Subject: Re: Codex question: open for debate > On the qustion of the remixes, I'd tend to a purist all or nothing > aproach. I.E that affected songs are either in or out. Those being: > > The 4 Spirit of the Age remixes on Rituals of the Solstice > > Right to Decide and Assassin on Decide Your Future > > Uncle Sam's on Mars (2 mixes) on the Quark single CD > > SCourge of the Earth Silver Machine mixes > > The debate here is moving towards me classifying them more as Hawkwind > covers than Hawkwind songs and having them all removed from the codex. > > Thoughts? > > FoFP > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 27 08:45:07 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:45:07 +0800 Subject: Codex question: open for debate Message-ID: > Howzabout a couple of appendixes? Appendix A for remixes, Appendix B for > cover versions. > > On the same train of thought, you could have a further appendix for solo HW > member's versions of HW songs. Jeez how many versions would you have to list > for Nik's "Watching the Grass Grow" !! > Isn't that the other way around, being an ICU track originally, I believe? William From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Feb 27 11:29:27 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:29:27 +0000 Subject: OFF: The Residents In-Reply-To: <200102170018.TAA17760@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:07:42 +0000, Jon Jarrett > wrote: > >On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > >> Snakefinger worked with the Residents and a ton of other people, but I > >> can't think of a direct connection to Allen/Gong. I could probably > >> arrange to ask Daevid next time he's in SF (but last time was only a > >> couple months ago, so who know when the next will be?). > > > > Well, I was in contact with The University of Errors > > Pat, Michael, or other? Michael, as it happens. > He seemed shockingly subdued when he played in SF with Mushroom in December > (AFTER the Gong tour, so presumably on his way back to Oz). I think it's > the *only* time I've ever seen him where he wasn't completely stealing the > show! Perhaps that's why it was billed as Mushroom and not UofE (even > though bassist Michael Clare, who usually *doesn't* play w/Mushroom was the > bassist for that gig). Depends whose songs they're playing, surely? Or is the output of these bands sufficiently instantaneous that that doesn't matter? > I'm sure you're quite correct, but I'd be shocked if he didn't make another > appearence in San Francisco within the year ... That's where UoE are actually based, isn't it? In which case I'd entirely expect you to be right. I like their website, it has badly confused a number of people I pointed at it. All but one figured out it was a band being talked about though :-) , for the unwary. Yours, Jon ObCD: Anubian Lights - _Let Not the Flame Die Out_ -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Feb 27 11:38:51 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:38:51 +0000 Subject: HW: New plans or not In-Reply-To: <200102170030.TAA17878@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > >There weren't that many good songs on _Alien4_ after all. > > And once again, too many remakes ("Death Trap" - although Ron's performance > makes its inclusion a non-waste, "Are You Losing Your Mind" = "Iron > Dream", "Blue Skin" = "Eye That Looks Within" [from the Griffin box set] - > I get the impression that perhaps Ron's "audition" for HW was to be given > the original track and told to come up with lyrics/vocals for > it). "Sputnik Stan" was good, but that's now a Bedouin song. That pretty > much leaves only the title track, which IS a great one ... I don't know, I think `Sputnik Stan' has two incarnations. The Hawkwind version is *made* by the massive floaty synth bridge. The Bedouin versions obviously don't have that, and when Sean was in the band I saw Alan put a whole new bass solo in there which eventually turned into the end of the Hawkwind bridge where the bass takes over. It was a pretty impressive piece on its own, with a kind of descending four-chord pattern quadruplet motif which only just sat on the song. I reckon that the bulk of both Hawkwind and Bedouin versions back then was the bridge, which makes the majority of each song different :-) But Bedouin played a much shorter `Sputnik Stan' last time I saw them (which must have been Hawkestra - but they didn't do it there did they? I'm confused. I'm sure I've seen this played though.) so now more of the two versions is the same. Hawkwind have played it of late though and I think it's still possible to separate a Hawkwind version and a Bedouin one. I'm no longer convinced now I've got to the end of that explanation that it matters very much but the D key is easy to reach :-) Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Feb 27 11:42:10 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:42:10 +0000 Subject: HW: Finest Moments In-Reply-To: <200102170041.TAA17984@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:25:21 EST, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > >Live "Space is Deep" from Space Ritual...just after the guitar-and-drums > >jam has finished and before the Only Dreaming "whewwwwwwwww" part, Brock > >is just picking away mellowly and suddenly there's an extra layer of "wah" > >laid on top...really smooth. Yeah? > > Yeah! I *love* the sound of the Coloursound wah/fuzz that Dave used in the > early 70s. Very unlike the more common Crybaby's, Vox's, Morleys, etc. > One interesting thing about those is that there's no way to turn the wah > OFF; the switch only turns the fuzz part on & off. You "deactivate" the > wah by turning all the way "up" (toe down, heel up). I must so agree; the guitar on _Space Ritual_ is a thing of rare wonder. Obviously one wishes Dave still played like that (or failing that, as he does on _California Brainstorm_ :-) but it's so weird and unique I wonder if it's replicable. Certainly I've never heard anyone else play like that. Who could? This is why Dave must be continually exhorted to play more guitar: because though he does a perfectly good job with sequencers and so on, so do many other people. But _no-one_ plays guitar like that. IMO. Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 27 13:38:33 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:38:33 GMT Subject: bedouin gig dates. In-Reply-To: Michael W Blackman's message of Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:50:02 +1030 Message-ID: Michael W Blackman writes: > > > How about Glasgow or = Edinburgh dates or even my local student > > > union in Galashiels. > > Good God! Surely we're not letting Gala lads on the list now? > > -- A Teri FoFP > This is a Scottish thing? Nah. It's a Borders (the UK's 3rd mainland Country) thing. Gala is just a few miles up the road from Hawick (where Teris come from) and they're still upset that we're Capital of the Borders :-) FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 27 14:13:49 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:13:49 -0000 Subject: Codex question: open for debate Message-ID: Yeh - I think they should all stay on the Codex because when yuo look at it from any piint of view to do with collectors items or whatever, most Hawkfans want to have these items in their collections and while I realsie there may be other indexes and lists elsewhere with them on, by and large the people buying an Astralasia remix of Hawkwind will be Astralasia fans and Hawkwind fans, so I think yuo should include everything on the codex that even has the most tenuous musical connection with hawkwind whethe or not it's ben butchered to death by some remixer because after all, it's all Hawkwind when all is said and done, in there somewhere. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: Re: Codex question: open for debate > On the qustion of the remixes, I'd tend to a purist all or nothing > aproach. I.E that affected songs are either in or out. Those being: > > The 4 Spirit of the Age remixes on Rituals of the Solstice > > Right to Decide and Assassin on Decide Your Future > > Uncle Sam's on Mars (2 mixes) on the Quark single CD > > SCourge of the Earth Silver Machine mixes > > The debate here is moving towards me classifying them more as Hawkwind > covers than Hawkwind songs and having them all removed from the codex. > > Thoughts? > > FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 27 14:15:47 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:15:47 -0000 Subject: VOTE 1 for Hawkwind Festival & Holliday Getaway!!! Message-ID: all very well but when? Some of have to plan ahead..... Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael W Blackman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 1:22 PM Subject: VOTE 1 for Hawkwind Festival & Holliday Getaway!!! Lets get the show on the road everybody now!!! VOTE 1 for Hawkwind Festival & Weekend Holiday Getaway!!! Yaaaaaaaaaaa hoooooooooooooo gidyup -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 27 14:15:05 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:15:05 -0000 Subject: bedouin gig dates. Message-ID: Don't worry Micheal - as the token non-Scot living in Scotland here, I don't get it either. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 1:20 PM Subject: Re: bedouin gig dates. > This is a Scottish thing? > > Hy Mike - I put that caption under your photo as requested ((Sam Fox)) > Remember? > > Mike Bl at ckman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M Holmes > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 8:57 PM > Subject: Re: bedouin gig dates. > > > > Rob Burton writes: > > > > > > I live in Scotland and saw Bedouin at the hawkestra gig at Brixton. = > > > Thought they were fantastic so, why, Alan , are there no dates further = > > > north than Leeds. Don't forget us up here. How about Glasgow or = > > > Edinburgh dates or even my local student union in Galashiels. > > > > > > Good God! Surely we're not letting Gala lads on the list now? > > > > -- A Teri FoFP > > > > :-) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 27 14:20:51 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:20:51 -0000 Subject: HW Canterbury Festival - First in I hope Message-ID: Finally, I'm pleased to be able to announce details of this year's Canterbury Sound Festival. The Canterbury Sound Festival 2001 Mount Ephraim Gardens, Hernhill, near Faversham, Kent Saturday 18th August 11.00am - 11.00pm, Rain or Shine (first band on stage at 12.00 mid-day) Capacity strictly limited to 3000 The line-up in order of appearance: MC: Arthur Brown Josiah The Hamsters Osibisa Caravan Porcupine Tree Hawkwind Tickets ?30 in advance. Children under 14 free of charge (if accompanied by an adult). Postal applications: (No Booking Fee) - By cheque / postal orders payable to: "Canterbury Sound Limited" with an SAE to: Second Wave Promotions, PO Box 385, Uxbridge, Middlesex UB9 5DZ By credit card and in person from the following outlets (subject to booking fee): The Marlowe Theatre, Canterbury : 01227 787787 Ticketweb: 020 7711 2000 / Stargreen: 020 7734 8932 Way Ahead: 0115 912 9000 / Freak Emporium: 01753 893008 Book online: http://www.ticketweb.co.uk / http://www.wayahead.com For latest info check: http://www.canterburyfestival.com (site under construction - due online by second week in March) I hope everything is well with you. Thanks for all your help. Best wishes Mark Powell ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Feb 27 14:25:20 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:25:20 -0500 Subject: OFF: Farflung CD sighting Message-ID: Ends tomorrow...anyone looking for this classic? Grakkl (FAA) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1412022902 From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Feb 27 15:26:54 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:26:54 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock Message-ID: Preview for the programme has been shown, in case anyone missed it. Includes start of Silver Machine. Channel 4, this Saturday. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 27 18:17:48 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:17:48 -0000 Subject: HW: Codex - phew Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 23 February 2001 11:17 Subject: Re: HW: Codex - phew >> 1. Is The Golden Void merely a vinyl copy of the Glasgow 82 BBC show? > >Yes. Wrong - Radio Clyde 1982 From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 27 18:24:39 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:24:39 -0000 Subject: HW: Banco de Gaia/New Elric Book Message-ID: I postedon this before - it is indeed the Thunder Rider! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Rich Warren To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 25 February 2001 14:54 Subject: HW: Banco de Gaia/New Elric Book >I was listening to one of the early/rare Banco De Gaia tracks called >'Soufie' today, and in the first section theres an underlying sample, that >sounds exactly like Niks vocal stuff from Xitintoday. I can't quite make it >out though, anyone else heard this/know if it is a sample from Xitintoday? > >Anyone read the new Elric book, and is it any good? > >Rich > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 27 19:44:32 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:44:32 -0000 Subject: Codex question: open for debate Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas, Guy To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 10:52 AM Subject: Re: Codex question: open for debate > I agree! > > They obviously don't belong in the main body of the Codex, but then again, > they are not strictly cover versions either! If a song contains any portion > of original HW material, then it should probably be classified as a remix. > > Howzabout a couple of appendixes? Appendix A for remixes, Appendix B for > cover versions. Oh no!! Please not that. Notes or short explanatory comments are fine but the Codex is quite complicated enough with all the different versions that already need cross-referencing. To try and add multiple appendices as well would confuse hopelessly what is, after all, an attempt to simplify the situation! On those grounds (of simplicity) I am also inclined to leave the remixes in the Codex. They can be easily distingished in the listing since they'll be unique versions and their remix status can be included in the title of the album. Also they do contain Hawkwind music (of a sort) so my preference would be to include them and let each person decide for themselves whether or not they should be considered true Hawkwind. My feeling is that the Codex is simply a list that should be as non-judgemental as possible and opinions about what does or does not constitute a "proper" Hawkwind sound should be left to the reader. IMOly jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue Feb 27 19:48:55 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:48:55 -0500 Subject: HW: Updates Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS Mission Control Updates has full details of Channel 4 show and Canterbury Festival..... www.hawkwind.org.uk ++MESSAGE ENDS From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Feb 27 19:56:48 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:56:48 -0500 Subject: Codex question: open for debate Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:44:32 -0000, Jill Strobridge wrote: >My feeling is that the Codex is simply a list that should be as >non-judgemental as possible and opinions about what does or does not >constitute a "proper" Hawkwind sound should be left to the reader. I have no problem with that philosophy. It's not too tough to figure out what's going on when the notes for "Silver Machine" say, "versions 59, 60, 61 & 62 are remixes by Scourge of the Earth" (or whatever the case may be). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 27 21:58:44 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:28:44 +1030 Subject: VOTE 1 for Hawkwind Festival & Holliday Getaway!!! Message-ID: >all very well but when? Some of have to plan ahead..... >Andy Garibaldi. I'm figuring - the bigger the ruckus we ALL make over the issue the more likely the details will come thru quicker(?) Agree? VOTE 1 for Hawkwind Festival & Weekend Holiday Getaway!!! Yaaaaaaaaaaa hoooooooooooooo gidyup -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Wed Feb 28 02:53:34 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:53:34 -0500 Subject: HW: Levi's Ad = Upside Down Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:20:12 -0000, J D wrote: > > Hi, >Saw the new Levi's ad (the one with people's arms, legs & heads rotating through 360 degrees etc) and instantly thought the music resembled Upside Down! >Anybody think the same or have I finally gone totally insane? >Jez > Yeah, Heard it last night for the first time and there is a definite resemblance. It won't make me buy a pair of Levis though! Mark From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Wed Feb 28 03:02:17 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:02:17 -0500 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:26:54 -0000, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >Preview for the programme has been shown, in case anyone missed it. Includes start of Silver Machine. > >Channel 4, this Saturday. > > > The TV guide for the Mail on Sunday!! paper had this down as a TV choice for the week and mentioned that this is the show in the series that everyone has been waiting for (I couldn't quite measure the irony factor). Its presented by Bill Bailey so at least it should be presented in a fairly positive way. Here's hoping that the Hawks (and you other contributors) come out of it well - its about time we saw them on proper UK TV and its been a long wait. Can't say that I really care about most of the other bands featured though! Mark From markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Feb 28 03:37:08 2001 From: markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM (mark cotton) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:37:08 -0000 Subject: HW: New plans or not Message-ID: Anybody who's ever seen Bedouin close up especially in their early daze (Harrogate, York), will have seen how much effort Alan puts into Sputnik Stan. It's his song whether he's within Hawkwind or without! Cheers, Ike >From: Jon Jarrett >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: New plans or not >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:38:51 +0000 > >On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: > > > >There weren't that many good songs on _Alien4_ after all. > > > > And once again, too many remakes ("Death Trap" - although Ron's >performance > > makes its inclusion a non-waste, "Are You Losing Your Mind" = "Iron > > Dream", "Blue Skin" = "Eye That Looks Within" [from the Griffin box set] >- > > I get the impression that perhaps Ron's "audition" for HW was to be >given > > the original track and told to come up with lyrics/vocals for > > it). "Sputnik Stan" was good, but that's now a Bedouin song. That >pretty > > much leaves only the title track, which IS a great one ... > > I don't know, I think `Sputnik Stan' has two incarnations. The >Hawkwind version is *made* by the massive floaty synth bridge. The Bedouin >versions obviously don't have that, and when Sean was in the band I saw >Alan put a whole new bass solo in there which eventually turned into the >end of the Hawkwind bridge where the bass takes over. It was a pretty >impressive piece on its own, with a kind of descending four-chord pattern >quadruplet motif which only just sat on the song. I reckon that the bulk >of both Hawkwind and Bedouin versions back then was the bridge, which >makes the majority of each song different :-) But Bedouin played a much >shorter `Sputnik Stan' last time I saw them (which must have been >Hawkestra - but they didn't do it there did they? I'm confused. I'm sure >I've seen this played though.) so now more of the two versions is the >same. Hawkwind have played it of late though and I think it's still >possible to separate a Hawkwind version and a Bedouin one. I'm no longer >convinced now I've got to the end of that explanation that it matters very >much but the D key is easy to reach :-) Yours, > Jon > >-- > | Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | > | ======================================================================| > | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | > | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Feb 28 04:57:25 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 04:57:25 -0500 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet release date - USA Message-ID: MONSTER MAGNET The New CD, "God Says No" In Stores April 10th http://www.monstermagnet.net Stuart http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Feb 28 05:44:28 2001 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas, Guy) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:44:28 -0000 Subject: HW: Lemmy / The Pirates Message-ID: May be a bit off subject here, but at long last, I've been able to link Hawkwind and The Pirates( ***king brilliant British Heavy R & B band)!! See the extract below, from the Angel records press release! Regards, Guy T. PS: I'm looking for a lead guitarist who can play like Mick Green. My old guitarist (who could play like just about anybody except Mick Green) has since buggered off to Norway! THE PIRATES Rock Bottom (SJPCD083) Release date 16.03.01 Mick Green has a pedigree that stretches back into the mists of rock antiquity: for as long as rock and R & B has been around Mick has been there with his beloved Pirates. This album,recorded in Sweden in 1995, features the same line-up as the successful 'Land Of The Blind' CD, also available on Angel Air. Motorhead's Lemmy guests on vocals on one track 'Blue Suede Shoes' which Mick refers to as 'the most brutal record I have ever been on.' This Angel Air release comes with an eight-page full colour CD booklet with sleeve notes penned by Dale Griffin. It is the perfect complement to the earlier Angel Air album. TRACK LISTING: Please Don't Touch - Good Drink Bad Woman - Goin' Back Home - Better Get Better - Don't Fool Around With Love - I Am A Man - Burnin' Rubber - Armageddon - Rock Bottom - Gibson, Martin, Fender - Blue Suede Shoes - Not Fade Away http://www.angelair.co.uk/sjpcd083.htm From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 28 08:13:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:43:27 +1030 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock Message-ID: >> Its presented by Bill Bailey so at least it should be presented in a fairly >> positive way. Would that be the same Bill Bailey that was at the Beehive before the Brixton show?? Mb From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 28 10:58:57 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:58:57 GMT Subject: HW: Levi's Ad = Upside Down In-Reply-To: Mark Von Bargen's message of Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:53:34 -0500 Message-ID: Mark Von Bargen writes: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:20:12 -0000, J D wrote: > > > > > Hi, > >Saw the new Levi's ad (the one with people's arms, legs & heads rotating > through 360 degrees etc) and instantly thought the music resembled Upside > Down! > Heard it last night for the first time and there is a definite resemblance. > It won't make me buy a pair of Levis though! I've had to buy Levis in all the different sizes, just for Kompleteness. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 28 11:00:12 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:00:12 GMT Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock In-Reply-To: Mark Von Bargen's message of Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:02:17 -0500 Message-ID: Mark Von Bargen writes: > The TV guide for the Mail on Sunday!! paper had this down as a TV choice > for the week and mentioned that this is the show in the series that > everyone has been waiting for (I couldn't quite measure the irony factor). Ah, you need a Magnety to do that. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 28 11:40:07 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:40:07 GMT Subject: Anw New Yorkers out there? Message-ID: I'll be in New York on the 16th and 17th of March if anyone wants to meet up? Are Ron and Bill still around those parts? Best get back to me asap with contact numbers... FoFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Feb 28 10:57:20 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:57:20 EDT Subject: Anw New Yorkers out there? In-Reply-To: <200102281640.QAA03837@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 28 Feb 2001, at 16:40, M Holmes wrote: > I'll be in New York on the 16th and 17th of March if anyone wants to > meet up? Are Ron and Bill still around those parts? > > Best get back to me asap with contact numbers... > > FoFP Hey, you better make the distinction between NYC and upstate. There's lots of upstaters here: Me and Brian from way upstate, Jason and Mike in the Capitol district, a couple more from the Buffalo area. So if you're getting north of the five burroughs, let me know! theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 28 12:25:49 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:25:49 GMT Subject: Anw New Yorkers out there? In-Reply-To: Ted Jackson's message of Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:57:20 EDT Message-ID: Ted Jackson writes: > On 28 Feb 2001, at 16:40, M Holmes wrote: > > > I'll be in New York on the 16th and 17th of March if anyone wants to > > meet up? Are Ron and Bill still around those parts? > > > > Best get back to me asap with contact numbers... > > > > FoFP > > Hey, you better make the distinction between NYC and upstate. > There's lots of upstaters here: Me and Brian from way upstate, > Jason and Mike in the Capitol district, a couple more from the > Buffalo area. So if you're getting north of the five burroughs, let me > know! Not this time around I'm afraid. I'm unlikely to make it out of the city. FoFP From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Feb 28 12:43:16 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:43:16 EST Subject: Anw New Yorkers out there? Message-ID: Hi Mike, Beverly and I are still in NYC......just outside..actually. I'm free on the 16th and 17th. Do you need a place to stay? E Mail me off list with your itinerary. Regards, Bill (last minute cockpit check) Stewart From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Feb 28 15:03:14 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:03:14 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock Message-ID: Not seen that preview, but the Radio TImes lists the following as being featured: Camel, ELP, Genesis, Hawkwind, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, Rush and Yes. The Observer gave the game away (well, not really) saying that Genesis were at No.2 and heavily hinted that Floyd are at No.1. Nick -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 27 February 2001 20:31 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock Preview for the programme has been shown, in case anyone missed it. Includes start of Silver Machine. Channel 4, this Saturday. From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Feb 28 15:32:17 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:32:17 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock In-Reply-To: <002701c0a1c1$7d6c8d40$4545fc3e@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: i always thought that hawkwind was spacerock? as far as i can see they have very little in common with the other bands in the progressive top ten. colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Nick Lee Sent: 28 February 2001 20:03 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock Not seen that preview, but the Radio TImes lists the following as being featured: Camel, ELP, Genesis, Hawkwind, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, Rush and Yes. The Observer gave the game away (well, not really) saying that Genesis were at No.2 and heavily hinted that Floyd are at No.1. Nick -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 27 February 2001 20:31 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock Preview for the programme has been shown, in case anyone missed it. Includes start of Silver Machine. Channel 4, this Saturday. From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 28 15:31:02 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:31:02 -0000 Subject: OFF: Earthquake in Seattle Message-ID: Anyone from Seattle on this list? I hear you've just had an earthquake over there. Hope everyone is safe! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Feb 28 14:35:12 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:35:12 EDT Subject: MM reviewed in GW In-Reply-To: <002701c0a1c1$7d6c8d40$4545fc3e@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: Very supportive review of God Says No in this month's Guitar World... theo xxxxxxxxx "Wherever you go, there you are." --B. Banzai From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Wed Feb 28 15:38:45 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:38:45 +0000 Subject: More Dave with More Guitar (was Re: HW: Finest Moments) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I must so agree; the guitar on _Space Ritual_ is a thing of rare >wonder. Obviously one wishes Dave still played like that (or failing that, >as he does on _California Brainstorm_ :-) but it's so weird and unique I >wonder if it's replicable. Certainly I've never heard anyone else play >like that. Who could? This is why Dave must be continually exhorted to >play more guitar: because though he does a perfectly good job with >sequencers and so on, so do many other people. But _no-one_ plays guitar >like that. IMO. Amen. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Wed Feb 28 15:45:16 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:45:16 +0000 Subject: HW: Monster Magnet - KREL In-Reply-To: <997CDAC4BBC5D211BE0B0008C70D298F02AE8D94@lnnt47.london.entoil.com> Message-ID: At 10.15 +0000 26.2.2001, Thomas, Guy wrote: >>> [Carl wrote:] >>> Carl, who now has one of his guitars back with him and >>> feels pretty good about that :) >> >> [Andy Gilham wrote:] >> This means I'm going to have to dust off my synth, doesn't >> it... ;) > >Gimme a call if you need a bassist/vocalist! Hey, it may yet come together :) In space we rock, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Wed Feb 28 15:41:44 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:41:44 +0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 20.32 +0000 28.2.2001, bedroom trancer wrote: >i always thought that hawkwind was spacerock? >as far as i can see they have very little in common with the other bands in >the progressive top ten. Hey, I never counted Jethro Tull as "prog rock" either, but that's probably because I like Tull and not much other trad prog :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 28 16:20:26 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:20:26 -0000 Subject: HW: Spacebrock - the bottom line Message-ID: Okay, should I part with my cash for this .....having shelled out for a lot of archive material in the last few months I don't really fancy buying another CD of reworkings (no matter how good). Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Feb 28 16:44:47 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:44:47 -0500 Subject: HW: Spacebrock - the bottom line Message-ID: As I said the title track and the ones around it alone are worth owning the CD. So in one word - Yes. IMHO Mike (thanks again arin) david hall wrote: > Okay, should I part with my cash for this ......having shelled out for > a lot of archive material in the last few months I don't really fancy > buying another CD of reworkings (no matter how good). > > > > Dave > -- "The salvation of mankind lies only in making everything the concern of all." -- Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 28 16:39:01 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:39:01 -0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten Message-ID: The mind boggles as to which members and ex(ish)members have been interviewed. Dave B, of course.....Lemmy - probably....Nik (with the self-styled "spirit of Hawkwind" vibe) - yup. What about Dave Anderson with a public apology for the crap live releases. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Feb 28 16:54:54 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:54:54 -0600 Subject: (HW) worthless incomplete collections In-Reply-To: <000801c0a1cc$af38a7e0$1845893e@default> Message-ID: > Okay, should I part with my cash for this .....having shelled out >for a lot of archive material in the last few months I don't really fancy >buying another CD of reworkings (no matter how good). Dave steal one or get it with OPC mc From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Feb 28 16:59:58 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:59:58 -0000 Subject: HW: Spacebrock - the bottom line Message-ID: Hi, Yeah, if you're a fan of Brock's other solo efforts then this is a perfectly valid release. The only tracks you're likely to already have are: You Burn Me Up - Elf & Hawk Kauai - Horizons First Landing - Horizons Out of a 45 min CD that no more than about 8 or 9 mins or "reworkings". Damage Of Life is different to other previously available versions (although I don't know if surfaces on the newer "corrected" CD). Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:20 PM Subject: HW: Spacebrock - the bottom line Okay, should I part with my cash for this .....having shelled out for a lot of archive material in the last few months I don't really fancy buying another CD of reworkings (no matter how good). Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Feb 28 17:20:49 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:20:49 -0500 Subject: HW: Top Ten Message-ID: Dave wrote: > The mind boggles as to which members and ex(ish)members have been interviewed. >Dave B, of course.....Lemmy - probably....Nik (with the self-styled "spirit of Hawkwind" vibe) - yup. What about Dave Anderson with a public apology for the crap live releases. That last sentence raises an interesting point. The positions of these' top ten' programmes are partly based on sales. How on earth could the total sales of the HW catalogue be calculated. Which albums are taken into account ? Has any other band featured had as many unauthorised albums released? Mick. May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Feb 28 17:33:23 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:33:23 -0000 Subject: HW: Spacebrock - the bottom line In-Reply-To: <00f301c0a1d1$e78713c0$e711883e@jezd> Message-ID: in a similar vein I was wondering is the hawkwind family tree cd worth purchasing? cheers Colm -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of J D Sent: 28 February 2001 22:00 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Spacebrock - the bottom line Hi, Yeah, if you're a fan of Brock's other solo efforts then this is a perfectly valid release. The only tracks you're likely to already have are: You Burn Me Up - Elf & Hawk Kauai - Horizons First Landing - Horizons Out of a 45 min CD that no more than about 8 or 9 mins or "reworkings". Damage Of Life is different to other previously available versions (although I don't know if surfaces on the newer "corrected" CD). Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:20 PM Subject: HW: Spacebrock - the bottom line Okay, should I part with my cash for this .....having shelled out for a lot of archive material in the last few months I don't really fancy buying another CD of reworkings (no matter how good). Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Feb 28 17:29:16 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:29:16 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progreesive Rock Message-ID: >i always thought that hawkwind was spacerock? > >as far as i can see they have very little in common with the other bands in >the progressive top ten. > >colm Yeah, but can you see the Top Ten Of Space Rock getting made? I couldn't name 10 space rock bands that Joe Public would've heard of. At least this way we're getting a few minutes of HW documentary on the telly for the first time. Nick From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Feb 28 17:37:52 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:37:52 -0500 Subject: HW: Top Ten Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:20:49 -0500, Michael Crook wrote: >The positions of these' top ten' programmes are partly based on sales. How >on earth could the total sales of the HW catalogue be calculated. Which >albums are taken into account ? Has any other band featured had as many >unauthorised albums released? I think it's safe to say that even if they DID manage to count every re- packaging of the 'Yuri Gagarin' album (and all the other Flicknife/Anderson/Anthology-AcidDaze re-hashes), there's NO WAY that Hawkwind could be any higher than #9 on the list (assuming that the list is based on total sales). They probably sold more albums total than Camel, but Rush / Genesis / ELP / Moodies / Tull / Floyd / Yes / Crimso ... not a chance ... not even close ... And if it IS based on sales, Floyd would have to be #1 (and Genesis #2) ... (Does this mean, then, that HW & Camel sold more albums than VDGG, Gentle Giant, Gong, or any of the other "mainstays" of prog not on this list?) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Feb 28 17:46:47 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:46:47 -0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten In-Reply-To: <20010228221816.WJHR20466.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> Message-ID: > That last sentence raises an interesting point. The positions of > these' top ten' programmes are partly based on sales. How on > earth could the total sales of the HW catalogue be calculated. > Which albums are taken into account ? Has any other band featured > had as many unauthorised albums released? It'll be on chart placings, I reckon, not sales as such. Much easier! -- Andy www.andygilham.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Feb 28 18:02:45 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:02:45 -0000 Subject: HW: Top Ten Message-ID: >It'll be on chart placings, I reckon, not sales as such. Much easier! > >-- Andy I suspect that the research material for these shows is no more than copies of the Guinness Books of Hit Singles and Hit Albums (as far as the ranking goes). Nick From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 28 19:20:19 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:50:19 +1030 Subject: HW: Spacebrock - the bottom line Message-ID: I bought a copy & I can say yes its worth owning as well! ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael S. Habiby To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 8:14 AM Subject: Re: HW: Spacebrock - the bottom line > As I said the title track and the ones around it alone are worth owning > the CD. > > So in one word - Yes. > > IMHO > > Mike > (thanks again arin) > > david hall wrote: > > > Okay, should I part with my cash for this ......having shelled out for > > a lot of archive material in the last few months I don't really fancy > > buying another CD of reworkings (no matter how good). > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > -- > "The salvation of mankind lies only in making everything the concern of all." -- Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Feb 28 20:16:57 2001 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:16:57 -0500 Subject: HW: Top Ten In-Reply-To: <200102282237.RAA10282@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >And if it IS based on sales, Floyd would have to be #1 (and Genesis #2) ... only if they include non-prog sales.... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Feb 28 12:09:57 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:09:57 +0000 Subject: HW: Codex(ish) In-Reply-To: <6d.fe12b3b.27c9304f@aol.com> Message-ID: In article <6d.fe12b3b.27c9304f at aol.com>, Al Ogilvy writes >I've got a mutant sonic attack too !! ...both side 1's !...Got offered 50? >for it once but turned it down I paid a tenner for mine, not that I was bargain hunting or quibbling, that's all it was priced at. Fifty notes sounds like a sell price to me! -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Feb 28 12:18:15 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:18:15 +0000 Subject: HW: Top 10 Progressive Rock In-Reply-To: <001001c0a0fb$a56a0c80$e01828d5@starfield> Message-ID: In article <001001c0a0fb$a56a0c80$e01828d5 at starfield>, Captain Bl at ck writes > Preview for the programme has been shown, in case anyone missed it. > Includes start of Silver Machine. > > Channel 4, this Saturday. > > The good news is Hawkwind (and Floyd, Gabriel-era Genesis, and King Crimson etc) on the TV for my birthday! Nice present Channel 4! Unabashed prog fan here! Wot, no Ayeron? The bad news is..staying in on my birthday watching TV! hmm.... -- Jon