From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Aug 1 04:42:45 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:42:45 +0100 Subject: HW Gigs In-Reply-To: <000a01c11a13$6b1abde0$ee3d883e@default> Message-ID: ME! Lunchtime in the Eight Bells, Fulham? Or am I deliberately misunderstanding for comedic effect? :-) Cheers, Rich. ObCD - HMHB, Editors Recommendation. > > Tickets for Glasgow and Edinburgh now acquired. Who is up for a > pint...or few? > > Dave > From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Wed Aug 1 07:00:28 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:00:28 +1200 Subject: BOC-L Cranium Music Newsletter In-Reply-To: <200107040900.FAA03895@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: I've just sent out the latest Cranium Music Newsletter and if anyone on this list who doesn't already receive it but would like to try the latest copy send me an email at richard @cranium.co.nz and I'll email you a copy. If you like what you see then you can subscibe if you wish and you will automatically receive it once a month (sometimes twice). Its free and you can subscibe or unsubscribe at any time via the easy link at: http://www.cranium.co.nz/newsletter.htm You can also find all archived copies on that page as well. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 1 07:00:23 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:00:23 +0100 Subject: HW Gigs In-Reply-To: david hall's message of Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:52:03 +0100 Message-ID: david hall writes: > Tickets for Glasgow and Edinburgh now acquired. Who is up for a = > pint...or few? I would, but I never ever drink before Hawkwind gigs :-) FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 1 07:01:58 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:01:58 +0100 Subject: Ultima Thule *IS* Wind of Change Message-ID: I heard Tangerine Dream's Ultima Thule single for the first time last night. Unless someone has slipped a demo copy of Wind of Change onto my disc then Hawkwind practically lifted Wind of Change straight from it. It was quite a surprise! FoFP From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Aug 1 07:04:44 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:04:44 +0100 Subject: HW Gigs In-Reply-To: <200108011100.MAA28057@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > > Tickets for Glasgow and Edinburgh now acquired. Who is up for a = > > pint...or few? > > I would, but I never ever drink before Hawkwind gigs :-) > > FoFP > Trouble is Mike, you consider the gig to have started at about 7:20 am. :-) Cheers, Rich. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Aug 1 07:20:42 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:20:42 +0800 Subject: HW: HG? Message-ID: Hi Does anyone know who the sax player is at the Croydon - Fairfield Hall - March 25, 2001? I assume he is the sax player as the line up is: Brock/Chadwick/Tree/Richards/House/Davey/Kniveton/HG/Rizz/Lloyd-Langton. But who is "HG?" Cheers Bill From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Aug 1 07:19:27 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:19:27 +0100 Subject: HW: HG? Message-ID: Bill & Cynthia wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone know who the sax player is at the Croydon - Fairfield Hall - > March 25, 2001? I assume he is the sax player as the line up is: > > Brock/Chadwick/Tree/Richards/House/Davey/Kniveton/HG/Rizz/Lloyd-Langton. But > who is "HG?" Jez Huggett - a damn good player good he is too From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Aug 1 07:24:46 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:24:46 +0100 Subject: HW Gigs Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > david hall writes: > > > Tickets for Glasgow and Edinburgh now acquired. Who is up for a = > > pint...or few? > > I would, but I never ever drink before Hawkwind gigs :-) Before the Croydon show this year Mike refused to let a drop of Hopback Summer Lightning touch his lips. He just poured it straight down instead! He also makes very nice chocolate but that's another story... Keef From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Aug 1 07:40:12 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:40:12 +0800 Subject: HW: HG? Message-ID: Keef wrote: > Jez Huggett - a damn good player good he is too Thanks Keith. Yes, he is good! Been listening to Croydon 2001 a lot lately. Cheers Bill > From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Aug 1 07:38:17 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:38:17 +0100 Subject: HW: HG? Message-ID: Bill & Cynthia wrote: > Keef wrote: > > Jez Huggett - a damn good player good he is too > > Thanks Keith. Yes, he is good! Been listening to Croydon 2001 a lot lately. and I've been slacking on structural grammar lessons! From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 1 07:50:37 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:50:37 +0000 Subject: HW Gigs Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Aug 1 08:07:06 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:07:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Tour dates Message-ID: Just received this official schedule: HAWKWIND SCHEDULE 2001 10th October Royal Festival Hall,London Tel: 020 7921 0600 3rd November Wyvern Theatre, Swindon Tel: 0179 352 4481 6th November Irish Centre, Leeds Tel: 0113 248 0613 7th November Rock City, Nottingham Tel: 0115 941 2544 8th November The Sanctuary, Birmingham Tel: 0121 246 1010 10th November Manchester University Tel: 0161 832 1111 11th November Royal Court Theatre, Liverpool Tel: 0151 709 4321 12th November The Garage, Glasgow Virgin:0141 332 4400 Way Ahead:0141 339 8383 13th November Liquid Room, Edinburgh Ripping Records: 0131 226 7010 Virgin Records:0131 220 3234 Way Ahead: 0141 339 8383 Way Ahead: 0141 339 8383 Ticket Web: 0207 771 2000 Ticket Web: 0207 771 2000 Groucho's Dundee:01382 228496/www.wayahead.com/www.ticketweb.co.uk 14th November Opera House, Newcastle Tel: 0191 232 0899 16th November Coal Exchange, Cardiff Box office: 02920 494 917 Ticketline: 02920 230130 17th November Hitchin Town Hall Tel: 01462 456 202 18th November Poole Arts Centre Te: 01202 685 222 19th November City Hall, Salisbury Tel: 01722 327676 20th November Princess Theatre, Torquay Tel: 08702 414120 23rd November Hastings Pier Tel: 01424 439858 (10-7 pm) 24th November Walthamstow Assembly Hall 0208 521 7111 My question is, how many of these will Michael B be going to? ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Aug 1 08:22:26 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:22:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Tour dates In-Reply-To: <00a901c119bb$818c0320$43d0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: > > every dang one!!!!!!!! That's what I figured! ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Wed Aug 1 11:07:34 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:07:34 -0400 Subject: OFF: ANNOUNCEMENT OF CANCELLATION Message-ID: SLOTERDIJK will NOT appear this coming Saturday night at 'The Wrong Way Inn', in Amityville, New York (Long Island). Due to some political bantering, the venue has decided to cancel the entire night's entertainment. Although SLOTERDIJK was the only band who was still confirmed, the lack of additional acts coupled with two cancellations, led them to scrap the whole night. We look forward to making it there by september, and hope to see our Long Island friends!!!! Peace, MIke Burro (Sloterdijk) PS We are still seeking some late summer/early fall shows..Please contact us directly if interested. PPS Plans are now beginning for a proposed european tour to begin in late December and continue through until about the 2nd week of January. If you live in The Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland, and you are interested in hosting or helping to organize a show please contact us! www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Aug 1 15:27:09 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:27:09 -0500 Subject: OFF: poul anderson Message-ID: For those of you who are science fiction fans, Poul Anderson passed away around midnight last night. another good one lost :-( Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Aug 1 15:47:27 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:47:27 +0100 Subject: HW: HG? Message-ID: Jez Huggett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:20 PM Subject: HW: HG? > Hi > > Does anyone know who the sax player is at the Croydon - Fairfield Hall - > March 25, 2001? I assume he is the sax player as the line up is: > > Brock/Chadwick/Tree/Richards/House/Davey/Kniveton/HG/Rizz/Lloyd-Langton. But > who is "HG?" > > Cheers > Bill > From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed Aug 1 17:31:17 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:31:17 -0400 Subject: HW: HG? Message-ID: Hey Bill Surprised you had to ask this.... all this stuff is up on Mission Control for info on the Croydon gig go to: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/gigs/st_2001/Croy2001/cr_inf.htm (or follow the spring tour link from updates) most questions on lyrics, dates, band members etc can be found on the site... :-} The site is currently under heavy overhaul, and stuff will be much easier to find afterwards ! Rx On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:20:42 +0800, Bill & Cynthia wrote: >Hi > >Does anyone know who the sax player is at the Croydon - Fairfield Hall - >March 25, 2001? I assume he is the sax player as the line up is: > >Brock/Chadwick/Tree/Richards/House/Davey/Kniveton/HG/Rizz/Lloyd-Langton. But >who is "HG?" > >Cheers >Bill From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Aug 1 18:27:35 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:27:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin dates Message-ID: Plus here's a whole bunch of dates for Bedouin... August 3rd The Gander, 2, Holdenhurst Road, Bournemouth 01202 290294 Sept 7th Bristol Fleece&Firkin 0117 9834503 (as Ace of Spades) Sept 8th The Mars Bar, 12 Pierpoint Street, Worcester 01905 613336 Sept 22nd Rye Community Centre, East Sussex 07899 676723 Sept 28th Esquires Club, Greyfriars Road, Bedford 01234 217171 Sept 29th The Twist, Colchester (as Ace of Spades) 01206 562453 Oct 4th Alexander Jazz Theatre, Chester 01244 400414 Oct 5th The Rigger, Newcastle-U-Lyme 01782 616602 Oct 6th Uplands Tavern, 42,Uplands Cres., Swansea 01792 458242 Oct 19th The Little Wonder, Harrogate 01423 505352 Oct 20th The Rigger, Newcastle-U-Lyme (as Ace of Spades) 01782 616602 November 10th Manchester University (supporting Hawkwind) 0161 832 1111 November 11th Liverpool Royal Court (supporting Hawkwind) 0151 709 4321 November 17th Hitchin Town Hall (supporting Hawkwind) 01462 456 202 November 18th Poole Arts Centre (supporting Hawkwind) 01202 685 222 November 23rd Hastings Pier (supporting Hawkwind) 01424 439858 (10-7 pm) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Aug 1 18:33:03 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:33:03 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aerial Photos from Mapquest Message-ID: Maps: Aerial Photos Brand new and very cool! Generate a US street map and look for the "AERIAL PHOTO" tab just above the map. Click the tab to see your street map as an aerial photo ? complete with eleven zoom levels. For a bigger and better view, click on the "BIG MAP" button to the upper right of your aerial photo. Get a map and check it out! http://mapquest.com From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed Aug 1 18:55:50 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:55:50 -0400 Subject: HW: UPDATES, TOUR INFO & ANNOUNCEMENTS Message-ID: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ++STAR WARRIORS All crew please visit Mission Control Updates / Tour pages for the latest briefing information on live dates and new releases........ www.hawkwind.org.uk ++MESSAGE ENDS ++ :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Aug 1 18:55:38 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:55:38 EDT Subject: OFF: poul anderson Message-ID: In a message dated 8/1/01 2:27:45 PM US Eastern Standard Time, akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU writes: > For those of you who are science fiction fans, Poul Anderson passed away > around midnight last night. > > Pardon my language: Fucking hell!! Joe From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Aug 1 19:27:54 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:27:54 -0400 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Message-ID: Just come back from a few days in London. I called in at the Barney Bubbles exhibition at Gt Sutton Street, very interesting it was too. There are even some of the actual painted circular HW speaker covers on display (the ones pictured next to Lemmy in the '1999 Party' cd booklet), and also Barney's film which was to accompany the Hawklord's tour - What a mind that guy had! Catch it while you can! Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Aug 1 19:49:13 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:49:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: Theremin performance in London Message-ID: UK folks into electronic music may want to check this event out ... it sounds very cool! I've seen Lydia Kavina perform, and she is an immensely talented Thereminist. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com ........................................ Tues 7th August, 7:30pm Horse Hospital, London. Demonstration: Tony Bassett aka Mr Theremin Eccentric London based inventor Tony Bassett runs Number One Electronics and has been creating Theremins and other pieces of exotic electronica since 1962. Tony will talk about his work, demonstrate how to create a theremin from scratch and for a finale turn one of the audience members into a human Theremin and play a tune on them! Performance: Musician Miss Hypnotique will perform a eclectic set including Rachmaninoff and the Star Trek theme tune on a traditional Theremin. Screening: Theremin - An Electronic Odyssey By Steven M Martin A documentary about the amazing life of Leon Theremin, inventor of the theremin, the electronic musical instrument so beloved of 50s sci-fi movie music. Theremin amazed America with his instrument until his kidnapping by Soviet agents in the mid-30s. Upon his release from a labor camp, he worked on surveillance devices for the KGB. Almost 60 years later , he is brought back to America for a touching reunion with his friends and colleagues. Performance: The Evening will culminate with a performance by Bruce Woolley and The Radio Science Orchestra - who have previously collaborated with Lydia Kavina, the world's leading Thereminvox player and great niece of Leo Theremin. Before conceiving The Radio Science Orchestra Bruce's writing credits include Video Killed the Radio Star for Buggles and Grace Jones' Slave to the Rhythm. Using amongst others a Theremin, Moogs and a midi Theremin they will perform a set specially put together for the event featuring 50s sci-fi soundtracks, original compositions and a tribute to Delia Derbyshire from the BBC Radiophonic Workshop who had been invited to speak at the event but died on 3rd July 2001. COME EARLY DOORS 7.30 ?6 / ?5 MEMBERS / CONCS From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Aug 1 19:48:48 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:48:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: poul anderson Message-ID: Arin Komins wrote: > > For those of you who are science fiction fans, Poul Anderson passed away > around midnight last night. > > another good one lost :-( > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------bummer,seems like i've been reading his stuff forever. sad to think there'll be no more,alas tim > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Aug 1 19:58:07 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:58:07 +0800 Subject: OFF: poul anderson Message-ID: If any of you are fans of Poul's you can email his family at trigonier at earthlink.net I'm sure they would like to hear words of encouragement etc from his fans. The email address was given to the Larry Niven list yesterday. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Loehr" To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 6:55 AM Subject: Re: OFF: poul anderson > In a message dated 8/1/01 2:27:45 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU writes: > > > > For those of you who are science fiction fans, Poul Anderson passed away > > around midnight last night. > > > > > > Pardon my language: > > Fucking hell!! > > Joe > From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Aug 1 20:32:13 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:32:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: Theremin performance in London In-Reply-To: <200108012349.TAA29594@listserv.spc.edu>; from jasret@MINDSPRING.COM on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 07:49:13PM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 07:49:13PM -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: > Before conceiving The Radio Science Orchestra Bruce [Woolley]'s > writing credits include Video Killed the Radio Star for Buggles And his performance credits include a much better version of it (as Bruce Woolley and the Camera Club) than the Buggles' icky pop one. > Using amongst others a Theremin, Moogs and a > midi Theremin A MIDI theremin??? How bizarre! Tying a theremin to a protocol that quantizes everything into semitones kind of defeats the whole purpose, doesn't it? (Or have they come up with microtonal MIDI? I admit it's been 15 years since I last looked at the spec.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Aug 1 20:53:01 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:53:01 +0800 Subject: Fw: Re: HW: HG? Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: "Rik Rx" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 7:34 AM Subject: Re: Re: HW: HG? > Hi Rik > > I would've gone to Mission Control yesterday, but there was a particularly > nasty NET virus lurking about (as well as an email virus) so I didn't take > the risk. Apparently the Americas are going to cop it today, so you guys be > careful. > > Thanks for the link :-) > > Cheers > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rik Rx" > To: ; "Bill Freeman" > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:31 AM > Subject: Re: HW: HG? > > > > Hey Bill > > > > Surprised you had to ask this.... all this stuff is up on Mission Control > > > > for info on the Croydon gig go to: > > http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/gigs/st_2001/Croy2001/cr_inf.htm > > > > (or follow the spring tour link from updates) > > > > most questions on lyrics, dates, band members etc can be found on the > > site... :-} The site is currently under heavy overhaul, and stuff will be > > much easier to find afterwards ! > > > > Rx > > > > > > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:20:42 +0800, Bill & Cynthia > > wrote: > > > > >Hi > > > > > >Does anyone know who the sax player is at the Croydon - Fairfield Hall - > > >March 25, 2001? I assume he is the sax player as the line up is: > > > > > >Brock/Chadwick/Tree/Richards/House/Davey/Kniveton/HG/Rizz/Lloyd-Langton. > > But > > >who is "HG?" > > > > > >Cheers > > >Bill > > > From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Wed Aug 1 21:07:30 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:07:30 -0400 Subject: stone soup festival? 8/4-5 Message-ID: There is a 'secret', 'ivite only' Free Festival in Ambler PA, this coming saturday. I have been contacted by the people who are running this gathering in regard to my making an appearance there. Camping is permitted, and there will be 9 other bands of whom I know not the names. I am considering doing a set there, most likely acoustic, unless they tell me specifically that they want an electric outing.. I am looking for a bass player and or percussionist to play a few tunes with..If you are interested let me know.. Anyone who might be interested in attending, let me know as I will have to provide your names to whomever lets people into this thing. I will also provide directions etc individually. I was told that last year there were well over 100 people at this thing, so if I go I will be camping. It would be nice if there were some people around who were into spacerock, etc, that way we could all camp in one area and play tunes, etc...This thing is happening saturday from 12PM Saturday until Sunday..All the music will be on Saturday.. If I get some feedback on this, then I will definitely attend and perform. Peace, mIke www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Aug 2 00:36:42 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 00:36:42 EDT Subject: OFF: Aerial Photos from Mapquest Message-ID: neat! thanks! Research-it "<>" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Aug 2 06:19:23 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:49:23 +0930 Subject: HW: Bedouin dates Message-ID: ohhhhhhh!!!!! my cup filleth over and over!!!!! and over!!!!! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 7:57 AM Subject: HW: Bedouin dates > Plus here's a whole bunch of dates for Bedouin... > > > August 3rd > The Gander, 2, Holdenhurst Road, Bournemouth 01202 290294 > > Sept 7th > Bristol Fleece&Firkin 0117 9834503 (as Ace of Spades) > > Sept 8th > The Mars Bar, 12 Pierpoint Street, Worcester 01905 613336 > > Sept 22nd > Rye Community Centre, East Sussex > 07899 676723 > > Sept 28th > Esquires Club, Greyfriars Road, Bedford 01234 217171 > > Sept 29th > The Twist, Colchester (as Ace of Spades) > 01206 562453 > > Oct 4th > Alexander Jazz Theatre, Chester > 01244 400414 > > Oct 5th > The Rigger, Newcastle-U-Lyme > 01782 616602 > > Oct 6th > Uplands Tavern, 42,Uplands Cres., Swansea 01792 458242 > > Oct 19th > The Little Wonder, Harrogate > 01423 505352 > > Oct 20th > The Rigger, Newcastle-U-Lyme (as Ace of Spades) > 01782 616602 > > November 10th > Manchester University (supporting Hawkwind) > 0161 832 1111 > > November 11th > Liverpool Royal Court (supporting Hawkwind) > 0151 709 4321 > > November 17th > Hitchin Town Hall (supporting Hawkwind) > 01462 456 202 > > November 18th > Poole Arts Centre (supporting Hawkwind) > 01202 685 222 > > November 23rd > Hastings Pier (supporting Hawkwind) > 01424 439858 (10-7 pm) > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > From coral at APORT.RU Thu Aug 2 06:22:48 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:22:48 +0400 Subject: HW: double bass Message-ID: Hello! I'm curious who of HW drummers used double bass drumming? Danny Thompson,..? cheers, Alice From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Aug 2 06:27:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:57:27 +0930 Subject: wonderful HAWK NEws Message-ID: If you haven't checked out the LATEST UPDATES at Mission Control - then do it now!!! Excellent - excellent news!!! My cup filleth over - and over.... Michael B! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Aug 2 06:28:59 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:58:59 +0930 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Message-ID: Can someone give me details of the dates and venue for the Barney Bubbles exhibition?? I seem to have misplaced the previous email from a little while back... I hope I can get to it in time!!! Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Crook To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:57 AM Subject: Re: HW: Barney Bubbles > Just come back from a few days in London. I called in at the Barney Bubbles exhibition at Gt Sutton Street, very interesting it was too. There are even some of the actual painted circular HW speaker covers on display (the ones pictured next to Lemmy in the '1999 Party' cd booklet), and also Barney's film which was to accompany the Hawklord's tour - What a mind that guy had! Catch it while you can! > Mick > > May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com > From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Aug 2 06:35:13 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:35:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Message-ID: Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > Can someone give me details of the dates and venue for the Barney Bubbles > exhibition?? 25 july - 9 aug 13 - 14 Gt Sutton St London EC1 From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Aug 2 06:36:12 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:36:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin dates Message-ID: Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > ohhhhhhh!!!!! my cup filleth over > > and over!!!!! > > and over!!!!! With the tears of Allah by any chance? :) From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Aug 2 06:53:43 2001 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:53:43 +0200 Subject: HW: double bass In-Reply-To: <000901c11b3d$22a6db40$5505efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: >Hello! > >I'm curious who of HW drummers used double bass drumming? Danny Thompson,..? > Simon King and I would also guess Mr. Baker. ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From coral at APORT.RU Thu Aug 2 07:01:07 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:01:07 +0400 Subject: HW: double bass Message-ID: > Simon King As I thought... >and I would also guess Mr. Baker. Really? it's not hearable either... From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Aug 2 07:49:42 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:19:42 +0930 Subject: HW: Bedouin dates Message-ID: Yes great tears of PURE JOY!!!! WHOOO HOOO!! Michael B {{happy hawkfan}} ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:06 PM Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin dates > Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > > > ohhhhhhh!!!!! my cup filleth over > > > > and over!!!!! > > > > and over!!!!! > > With the tears of Allah by any chance? :) > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Aug 2 07:51:00 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:21:00 +0930 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Message-ID: I won't be ther untill 7/9/ :( hope they have another one?!?!? Thanks Keith! Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:05 PM Subject: Re: HW: Barney Bubbles > Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > > > Can someone give me details of the dates and venue for the Barney Bubbles > > exhibition?? > > 25 july - 9 aug > 13 - 14 Gt Sutton St > London EC1 > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Aug 2 09:16:41 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:16:41 EDT Subject: HW: double bass Message-ID: In a message dated 8/2/01 7:03:03 AM, coral at APORT.RU writes: << >and I would also guess Mr. Baker. >> yeah, he was among the first, or _the_ first, rock drummer to do so...in cream. did keith moon? maybe not? == i didnt realize simon king played double bass not like baker ==== so there i was playing '8 on the floor' with one foot. oy... "<>" From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Aug 2 09:28:53 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:28:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Message-ID: I'm going to pop along sometime and ask nicely if I can take some photos so that those who can't make it can enjoy it too. Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > I won't be ther untill 7/9/ :( > > hope they have another one?!?!? > > > > Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > > > > > Can someone give me details of the dates and venue for the Barney > Bubbles > > > exhibition?? > > > > 25 july - 9 aug > > 13 - 14 Gt Sutton St > > London EC1 > > -- Senior Systems Administrator Phone:0207 973 4000 Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 London W1D 3BP mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ From coral at APORT.RU Thu Aug 2 09:29:54 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:29:54 +0400 Subject: HW: double bass Message-ID: > == > i didnt realize simon king played double bass > not like baker Well... all we need are the pics of the HW drummers with their drumsets and see is there a double bass or not. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 2 09:36:07 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:36:07 EDT Subject: HW: double bass In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2 Aug 2001, at 9:16, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 8/2/01 7:03:03 AM, coral at APORT.RU writes: > > << > > >and I would also guess Mr. Baker. > > >> > > yeah, he was among the first, or _the_ first, rock drummer to do > so...in cream. > > did keith moon? > maybe not? I've definitely seen pics of KM using a double outfit... theo From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Aug 2 09:52:54 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:52:54 EDT Subject: HW: double bass Message-ID: In a message dated 8/2/01 9:32:14 AM, coral at APORT.RU writes: << see is there a double bass or not. >> the cover of 'space ritual? "<>" From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Aug 2 10:05:43 2001 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:05:43 +0100 Subject: HW: double bass Message-ID: I thought Ian Paice was amongst the first double bass drummers with Purple Mk1 > > yeah, he was among the first, or _the_ first, rock drummer to do so...in > cream. > > did keith moon? > maybe not? > == > i didnt realize simon king played double bass > not like baker > ==== > so there i was playing '8 on the floor' > with one foot. > oy... > > "<>" > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Aug 2 11:00:55 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:00:55 EDT Subject: HW: double bass Message-ID: In a message dated 8/2/01 10:00:11 AM, beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM writes: << I thought Ian Paice was amongst the first double bass drummers with Purple Mk1 >> axually, mr paice played single bass from early video excerpts i have "<>" From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Thu Aug 2 11:31:20 2001 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:31:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles In-Reply-To: <003b01c11b3d$f3726500$bdcd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:58:59 +0930, you sent through the ether: >Can someone give me details of the dates and venue for the Barney Bubbles >exhibition?? Artomatic+, London 13-14 Great Sutton Street London Greater London EC1V OBX Telephone: 020 7566 0171 Times: From Jul 25, Mon-Fri 10am-5.30pm, ends Aug 9 Dates: Wed 25 Jul, 2001 - Thu 09 Aug, 2001 Prices: free Just went today, top stuff.. very well done & focussing on the just the era you`re hoping it will.. -S. From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Aug 2 11:39:30 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:39:30 +0100 Subject: Fw: Re: HW: double bass Message-ID: on the topic of ginger baker i read today that the cult considered getting him in on drums during the sonic temple album tour. Colm McWilliams > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alice" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:01 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: double bass > > > > > > > > Simon King > > > > > > As I thought... > > > > > > >and I would also guess Mr. Baker. > > > > > > Really? it's not hearable either... > > > > > > > > From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Aug 2 12:00:02 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:00:02 +0100 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: Just thought id let any londoners on the list know that HMV oxford street have increased the size of the hawkwind cd section adding a few griffin imports amongst other things (they must have recently employed a hawk fan!). also all the castle digi-packs (live 79, levitation, space bandits etc ) are 6.99 each or 4 for 20 pounds. Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 Currently listening to: From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Aug 2 12:25:16 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:25:16 -0400 Subject: HW: double bass In-Reply-To: <008101c11b69$53630980$2ebb1e3e@gypo> Message-ID: Colm wrote: > on the topic of ginger baker i read today that the cult considered getting > him in on drums during the sonic temple album tour. Instead, they hired Matt Sorum who is still with the Cult (after a brief stint in Guns 'N' Roses). Lucky for The Cult--Sorum fits their style much better than Baker would have. Brian obCD> The Cult "Beyond Good and Evil" -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio There is no Dana, only Zuul http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Aug 2 12:31:28 2001 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:31:28 +0100 Subject: HW: double bass Message-ID: I'm pretty sure he was playing two basses on the ToTP footage of Black Night, though. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 4:00 PM Subject: Re: HW: double bass > In a message dated 8/2/01 10:00:11 AM, beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM writes: > > << I thought Ian Paice was amongst the first double bass drummers with Purple > > Mk1 > > >> > > axually, mr paice played single bass > from early video excerpts i have > > "<>" > From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Aug 2 13:48:54 2001 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:48:54 +0200 Subject: HW: double bass In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I didn't know that Mr Moon and Mr Paice have been in HW ;) ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Aug 2 14:59:18 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:59:18 -0400 Subject: HW: double bass Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:16:41 EDT, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >i didnt realize simon king played double bass >not like baker Hmmm ... after checking out photos, it appears that Simon *did* play double- bass during the Space Ritual era, but not always. And after Al Powell joined (and was subsequently sacked), he never did (Atomhenge, Quark, '79 tours are all definitely single-bass). Take a look at the Simon King website for pics of him with both single and double setups. Knut Gerwers' Calvert site has some good photos of the Hawklords, where it looks like Martin Griffin *might* be playing a double-bass setup (it's tough to tell). Although the Hawklords material strikes me as being *wrong* for double bass drums, being more stripped-down and punk/new wave (as opposed to the 'Levitation' material, which worked very well with such a kit). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com >==== >so there i was playing '8 on the floor' >with one foot. >oy... From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Thu Aug 2 15:15:18 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:15:18 -0700 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Message-ID: To anyone who's gone to this - is there an exhibition catalog? scorch From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Aug 2 15:26:07 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:26:07 -0400 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: Yeah, I was in there on Tuesday and could'nt resist buying a limited Griffin Undisclosed Files with the free half hundred weight of metal shield. The guy behind the counter almost had an hernia when he picked it up! Mick > Just thought id let any londoners on the list know that HMV oxford street >have increased the size of the hawkwind cd section adding a few griffin >imports amongst other things (they must have recently employed a hawk fan!). >also all the castle digi-packs (live 79, levitation, space bandits etc ) are >6.99 each or 4 for 20 pounds. > > > >Colm McWilliams >ICQ: #62753543 >Currently listening to: -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Aug 2 15:34:46 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:34:46 -0400 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Message-ID: Unfortunately no, or at least there weren't any the other day. They were selling original Hawklord booklets and also photocopies of the Ritual pullout. Incidentally, there was an illustrated explanation by BB of the meaning of Space Ritual - way above my head! - but beautiful to see. Mick > To anyone who's gone to this - > >is there an exhibition catalog? > > > >scorch -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Thu Aug 2 15:47:00 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:47:00 -0700 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Message-ID: > Unfortunately no, or at least there weren't any the other day. They were selling original Hawklord booklets and also photocopies of the Ritual pullout. Incidentally, there was an illustrated explanation by BB of the meaning of Space Ritual - way above my head! - but beautiful to see. > > Mick > > > > To anyone who's gone to this - > > > >is there an exhibition catalog? > > > > > > > >scorch > Ooo, I'd love a copy of each of those. If there's anyone going to the show who's willing to pickup a set, I'd glady send the appropriately sized wad of dosh your way, plus postage and enough for a pint on me! scorch From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Aug 2 17:10:48 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:10:48 -0600 Subject: HMV Oxford Street In-Reply-To: <20010802192045.RHNJ757.t21mta02-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> Message-ID: and there is not even a hook on the thing for hanging!! what were they thinking?? didn't get the art right either, IMO, it's messy.....don't drop it on your foot..... m c Yeah, I was in there on Tuesday and could'nt resist buying a limited Griffin Undisclosed Files with the free half hundred weight of metal shield. The guy behind the counter almost had an hernia when he picked it up! Mick From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Aug 2 16:29:26 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:29:26 -0400 Subject: OFF/HW: double bass In-Reply-To: <3B691F06.28799.832A2F@localhost> Message-ID: At 09:36 8.2.01 EDT, you wrote: >> yeah, he was among the first, or _the_ first, rock drummer to do >> so...in cream. >> >> did keith moon? >> maybe not? > >I've definitely seen pics of KM using a double outfit... Michael Giles of the first King Crim used a double bass rig. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Aug 2 17:19:13 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:19:13 -0600 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles In-Reply-To: <20010802193136.UNNI6167.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> Message-ID: Mick: snip- photocopies of the Ritual pullout. (WHICH?? THE LP?? or THE PROGRAM?? DID YOU GRAB ONE??) Incidentally, there was an illustrated explanation by BB of the meaning of Space Ritual - way above my head! - but beautiful to see. (OH MAN!!! PLEASE GO BACK, WRITE IT ALL DOWN, AND RETURN HERE ASAP!!!! THIS IS IMPORTANT LIFE AND DEATH STUFF!!!! CAN SOMEONE??? SORRY FOR YELLING!!!) m c From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 2 15:02:17 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:02:17 -0400 Subject: HW: double bass Message-ID: Alice in Wonderland wonders... >I'm curious who of HW drummers used double bass drumming? Danny Thompson,..? The question about Danny Thompson in HW was whether he used 'double sticks' or not? As opposed to just one lone one I mean (not like Bonham's Four Sticks) ...you know, like the Def Leppard drummer. It sounds like it anyway. :) Grakkl (FAA) From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Thu Aug 2 16:59:41 2001 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:59:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:19:13 -0600, you sent through the ether: >(OH MAN!!! >PLEASE GO BACK, WRITE IT ALL DOWN LOL.. it`s HUGE.. and also available on the web.. I`ve seen it.. ..somewhere.. get searching Mike.. -S. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Aug 2 18:19:52 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:19:52 -0600 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:19:13 -0600, you (m c) (and then you-ICU)(then me, again) sent through the ether: (OH MAN!!! PLEASE GO BACK, WRITE IT ALL DOWN) LOL.. it`s HUGE.. (THEN I WILL FEEL I'VE REALLY GOT SOME BOC-L VALUE!!) and also available on the web.. I`ve seen it.. ..somewhere.. get searching Mike..(IS THAT A DIRECT ICU ORDER??? YES SIR!!! SEARCHING NOW SIR!! GOOGLE HO!!!) M From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Aug 2 17:49:56 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:49:56 +0100 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: From: "Michael Crook" > Yeah, I was in there on Tuesday and could'nt resist buying a limited Griffin Undisclosed Files with the free half hundred weight of metal shield. The guy behind the counter almost had an hernia when he picked it up! > > Mick Hey i didn't see that!!! I would have got it if i knew! :-) Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 Currently listening to: > > Just thought id let any londoners on the list know that HMV oxford street > >have increased the size of the hawkwind cd section adding a few griffin > >imports amongst other things (they must have recently employed a hawk fan!). > >also all the castle digi-packs (live 79, levitation, space bandits etc ) are > >6.99 each or 4 for 20 pounds. > > > > > > > >Colm McWilliams > >ICQ: #62753543 > >Currently listening to: > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 2 18:58:55 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:58:55 +0100 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: feel free not to answer this but how much did you have to pay for that shield? Did they have many? I detect something strange going on here............. Andy Garibaldi (extremely curious) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colm McWilliams" To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:49 PM Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street > From: "Michael Crook" > > > Yeah, I was in there on Tuesday and could'nt resist buying a limited > Griffin Undisclosed Files with the free half hundred weight of metal shield. > The guy behind the counter almost had an hernia when he picked it up! > > > > Mick > > Hey i didn't see that!!! I would have got it if i knew! :-) > > > > Colm McWilliams > ICQ: #62753543 > Currently listening to: > > > Just thought id let any londoners on the list know that HMV oxford > street > > >have increased the size of the hawkwind cd section adding a few griffin > > >imports amongst other things (they must have recently employed a hawk > fan!). > > >also all the castle digi-packs (live 79, levitation, space bandits etc ) > are > > >6.99 each or 4 for 20 pounds. > > > > > > > > > > > >Colm McWilliams > > >ICQ: #62753543 > > >Currently listening to: > > > > -------------------- > > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at > http://www.talk21.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Aug 2 18:32:03 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:32:03 -0400 Subject: OFF: Theremin performance in London Message-ID: More information can also be found at: http://www.strangeattractor.co.uk/ Looks like their non-musical events are pretty darn interesting, too! On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:32:13 -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: >On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 07:49:13PM -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: >> Using amongst others a Theremin, Moogs and a >> midi Theremin > >A MIDI theremin??? How bizarre! Tying a theremin to a protocol >that quantizes everything into semitones kind of defeats the >whole purpose, doesn't it? (Or have they come up with microtonal >MIDI? I admit it's been 15 years since I last looked at the >spec.) It doesn't use any part of the MIDI standard that didn't exist 15 years ago. It can send out pitch-bend (in addition to note) information up to 200 times per second with up to 14-bit accuracy. Granted, that will probably make the underpowered microprocessor in your 80s-technology MIDI synth blow its mind, but note transitions should be as smooth as using the familiar pitch wheel. for more info, see: http://www.bigbriar.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/products_t.html? L+scstore+lgts3193ff02f002+998285163 or: http://www.bigbriar.com/ -> products -> theremins -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 2 19:02:31 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:02:31 +0100 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: ............and it shouldn't have even been available at all were it not for a weird mistake............. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:10 PM Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street > and there is not even a hook on the thing for hanging!! what were they > thinking?? didn't get the art right either, IMO, it's messy.....don't drop > it on your foot..... > m c > > > Yeah, I was in there on Tuesday and could'nt resist buying a limited > Griffin Undisclosed Files with the free half hundred weight of metal > shield. The guy behind the counter almost had an hernia when he picked it > up! > > Mick From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Aug 2 19:58:35 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:58:35 +0100 Subject: HW Gigs Message-ID: Oh!! Shoorlie shome mishtake at Brishton then, paaaaaaal! Arf arf Dave -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 01 August 2001 12:00 Subject: Re: HW Gigs >david hall writes: > >> Tickets for Glasgow and Edinburgh now acquired. Who is up for a = >> pint...or few? > >I would, but I never ever drink before Hawkwind gigs :-) > >FoFP > From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Aug 2 19:37:09 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:37:09 -0400 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Message-ID: I think it was the LP pullout, it featured the original(?) words to 'Warlords 'We're Psychedelic Warlords playing spaced-out rock n roll hang on to your heads now cos we were born to go' As for the meaning of Space Ritual - well I'll try: It, it, let me see, it involves - no thats not it, it concerns the..,Aaargh no I've lost it again - it would be easier to describe the taste of a rainbow. Mike, be content that such Knowledge is best reserved for actual Band members - Lords of the Hawk - I shouldn't have seen it Mick > Mick: >snip- > photocopies of the Ritual pullout. (WHICH?? THE LP?? or THE PROGRAM?? >DID YOU GRAB ONE??) > > Incidentally, there was an illustrated explanation by BB of the meaning of >Space Ritual - way above my head! - but beautiful to see. (OH MAN!!! >PLEASE GO BACK, WRITE IT ALL DOWN, AND RETURN HERE ASAP!!!! THIS IS >IMPORTANT LIFE AND DEATH STUFF!!!! CAN SOMEONE??? SORRY FOR YELLING!!!) m >c May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Aug 2 19:44:36 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:44:36 -0400 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: With you on that Mike, the first thing I looked for was a hook, after breaking a tooth on it cos I thought there was Chocolate inside. It does have a certain crude charm though, I like it. OUCH my %%@@**% Foot!! Mick > and there is not even a hook on the thing for hanging!! what were they >thinking?? didn't get the art right either, IMO, it's messy.....don't drop >it on your foot..... >m c > > >Yeah, I was in there on Tuesday and could'nt resist buying a limited >Griffin Undisclosed Files with the free half hundred weight of metal >shield. The guy behind the counter almost had an hernia when he picked it >up! > >Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 2 18:55:35 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:55:35 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: In prep. for the 'SD2001' tour Message-ID: Hey there... In case you're unfamiliar with the works of the two intended headliners of Jim's fall (Oct/Nov) 'Replacement for an outdoor Strange Daze' spacerock tour (to include a more festival-like indoor show in Cleveland I believe, probably somewhere like the Phantasy Nite Club I imagine), here's a chance to hear both artists for free. And there's another new show of bands that I'm totally unfamiliar with (except one or two exceptions)! Lots of people sending stuff to Jerry these days I guess! Grakkl (FAA) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ http://Aural-Innovations.com Aural Innovations Radio has just uploaded two new shows in streaming RealAudio. (You can also download them if you prefer.) Aural Innovations is an online web-zine covering all forms of spacerock, psychedelia, electronica, and more eclectic forms of jazz and progressive rock. Our web site is LOADED with reviews, interviews, and articles. Announcement (August 2, 2001): In addition to our theme of space rock, psychedelic, and electronic music, Aural Innovations also writes about improvisational, experimental, and avant-garde rock and jazz. In an effort to provide an audio spotlight for this music we have created The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown (see below). Aural Innovations Radio (Show #31): Mr Quimby's Beard / Harvey Bainbridge Shrouded In Mystery USA Tour Special Mr Quimby's Beard - "Mystery Part 2" (from The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of...) Harvey Bainbridge - "Free Fall" (from Harvey Bainbridge Live 2000) Hawkwind - "T.V. Suicide" (from Space Bandits) Mr Quimby's Beard - "Marijuana Nightmare" (from Mr Quimby's Beard) The Alman Mulo Band - "Electronique" (from Orisha) Mr Quimby's Beard - "Beyond The Light" (from The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of...) Mr Quimby's Beard - "Nebulae" (from The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of...) Harvey Bainbridge - "The Changing" (from Hawkwind Friends and Relations: The Rarities) Harvey Bainbridge - "Mutation Zone" (from Harvey Bainbridge Live 2000) Mr Quimby's Beard - "Snake Dance" (from Out There) Mr Quimby's Beard - unreleased live set Harvey Bainbridge - "Voyager 1 (The Voyage)" (from Interstellar Chaos) The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown: Show #1 Playlist Joseph Benzola - "Ayler Weeps In Blackwell's Soul" (from The Sound Of One Hand Clapping) Detroit Improv Duo - "Skippies" (from Intuitive Tesseract) Bret Hart - "How Dare Ye!?" (from Rice) Mark Kissinger/Bret Hart - "Glissando de 8-Ficelles" (from Duets - Vol 1) Derek Bailey - "M6" (from Improvisation) Camera Obtusa - "Put Your Beat Feet Forward" (from Whistling Rufus) Sun Ra - "Exotic Forest" (from Nothing Is...) Jim Konen/Rotcod Zzaj - "Under The Lodi" (from Sonic Nuggets) Trummerflora - "Nonet 3" (from No Stars Please) Jugalbandi - "Reciprocal Demonology" (from The View Is Better From The Top Of The Food Chain) Micheal Bisio/Eyvind Kang - "Zebulon #3" (from MBEK) Ernesto Diaz-Infante/Chris Forsyth - "Straight To It" (from Wires And Wooden Boxes) W.O.O. Revelator - "Global Communicator" (from The Theory Of Reversed Effort) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Aug 2 21:14:47 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:14:47 -0600 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles In-Reply-To: <20010802233400.XGZK6167.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> Message-ID: Mick (the artist?) It, it, let me see, it involves - no thats not it, it concerns the..,Aaargh no I've lost it again - it would be easier to describe the taste of a rainbow. Mike, be content that such Knowledge is best reserved for actual Band members - Lords of the Hawk - I shouldn't have seen it A string of existence whereby the spirit realm occupies the upper portion and the material is at the lower, and one where the galaxies are spread out across, and band members have speakers strategiclly positioned to form intersections of sound creating interactive new mental tones in the minds of the audience, and of how the positioning of the performers (standing) on painted platforms, each unique and attuned especially for each player,are able to bring out the ultimate individual part to throw into the mix of interplay with the audience bouncing back at the band and forming unity, manifesting in various hues of color as reflected in the painting on the amplifiers???? sort of a hub and wheel where the stadium is participating on the full scope of awareness???? m From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Thu Aug 2 21:44:23 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:44:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: Additional date for SLOTERDIJK 9/8 Message-ID: SLOTERDIJK will appear in Long Branch, New Jersey on Saturday, September 8th at 'Hooligan's', one of the Jersey shore's premeir original music venues. low cost entry; call venue at: (732) 229-9186 Doors open at 8PM 18 to enter 21 to drink (NO EXCEPTIONS) lineup so far: The 4th Spaztikolon SLOTERDIJK Hooligans 369 Broadway Long Branch, NJ 07740 Great Soundsystem and Soundman EASY ACCESS FROM GARDEN STATE PKWY!!!! www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Aug 2 21:52:07 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:52:07 -0400 Subject: OFF: poul anderson Message-ID: Imagine my surprise when I looked at the memorium notice here: http://www.sfwa.org/News/panderson.htm ... and saw that the memorial gathering is taking place 4 blocks from my house on saturday! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Joe Loehr" >To: >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 6:55 AM >Subject: Re: OFF: poul anderson > > >> In a message dated 8/1/01 2:27:45 PM US Eastern Standard Time, >> akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU writes: >> >> >> > For those of you who are science fiction fans, Poul Anderson passed >> > away around midnight last night. >> >> Pardon my language: >> >> Fucking hell!! >> >> Joe From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 2 23:53:24 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:53:24 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: Strange Daze 2001 (indoor) Message-ID: Hey Folks... Hardy (of MQB) just sent me some more details about this year's event(s). The indoor Strange Daze event will be at the Beachland Ballroom in east suburban Cleveland (never been there myself) www.beachlandballroom.com for more. It's going to be a bigger and better event than I had thought! 2 days instead of just 1. Here is the tentative lineup of bands... (* Strange Daze veterans) Red Giant* Rick Ray Band Drumplay* World of Tomorrow* Alien Planetscapes* Heavy Liquid Einstein's Secret Orchestra* Speaker\Cranker*(virtually...similar band to Trans-Lunar Express) Nucleon* Quarkspace* and headlining... Harvey Bainbridge* Mr. Quimby's Beard plus the ever-splendiferous Solar Fire Lightshow... The MQB/Harvey tour (which I imagine will also feature one or two of these bands, plus some others as yet unkown, in different cities) will be called the 'Shrouded in Mystery' tour, and the early schedule looks thusly... 10/18 Grand Rapids, MI 10/19 Milwaukee, WI 10/20 Lansing, IL 10/21 Columbus, OH 10/23 New York, NY 10/23 Washington, DC 10/26-27 Cleveland, OH (Strange Daze) 10/29 Cullman, AL (1/2 way between Huntsville and Birmingham) spacerock hotbed, no doubt! :) 11/3 St. Petersburg, FL 11/6 Atlanta, GA Make early plans to see these excellent shows before flying off to the UK for the Hawkwind gigs!! :) Grakkl (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 2 23:55:41 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:55:41 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: Strange Daze 2001 (indoor) Message-ID: Sorry... 10/23 New York, NY 10/24 Washington, DC Typo. Grakkl (FAA) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Aug 3 06:37:42 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:07:42 +0930 Subject: possible virus emails?? Message-ID: Dear Hawk friends, I have recieved to emails with "Oct" in the subject and a message saying I send you this email in order to obtain advice and their is an attatchment I have been deleting them straight away incase they are virus thingys I am now doing a virus scan and will let you know the results Just a friendly advance warining just in case Regards Michael Blackman From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Aug 3 06:51:23 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:51:23 +0100 Subject: possible virus emails?? Message-ID: Just remember the rule - never open attachments from anyone you don't know. Never open attachments from anyone you do know unless you're expecting them. NEVER open any executables, and CERTAINLY never open any attachments with two file extansions. (.doc.vbs and the like). Cheers, Rich. ================================= Dear Hawk friends, I have recieved to emails with "Oct" in the subject and a message saying I send you this email in order to obtain advice and their is an attatchment I have been deleting them straight away incase they are virus thingys I am now doing a virus scan and will let you know the results Just a friendly advance warining just in case Regards Michael Blackman From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Aug 3 07:00:33 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:00:33 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 7/28 Message-ID: SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck NOTE: I also recommend you stay tuned for Mizzen's program "Audio Alchemy", which airs every Saturday evening after mine, from 8-11pm PST...if you dare... 7/28 1.Vibrasonic-- "Perpetual Motion Machine" (ST'd; Yep! Records) 2.Cul de Sac-- "Eaoin Shrdlu" (Crashes to Light...; Thirsty Ear Records) 3.Roky Erickson-- "The Creature w/the Atom Brain (The Evil One; 415 Records) 4.Helios Creed-- "Kiss to the Brain" (On Tour 1999; StaticWhiteSound Records) 5.Nik Turner-- "Thoth" (Transglobal Friends/Relations; Transparency Records) 6.Farflung-- "The Dead Sea" (The Belief Module; Bad Acid Records) 7.Thumbtack Smoothie-- "Twinko" (ElectricKitchenTableLand; Manic Obsessive Records) 8.Add N to X-- "Murmer One" (On the Wires of Our Nerves; Mute Records) 9.Systems Theory-- "The Boy Who Gazed at Stars" (Demos '99-'00) 10.Kim Cascone-- "Pythagorean Sea II" (Where Stalks the Sandman comp; Noh Poetry Records) 11.The Brain-- "Morph" (Access and Amplify; Hypnotic/Cleopatra Records) 12.Edgar Froese-- "Panorphelia" (Aqua; Virgin Records) 13.Barlow/Petersen/Wivinus-- "Rainstorm" (ST'd; Assymetry/Stick it to the Man Records) 14.JFK Jr. Royal Airforce-- "Devils and Gods" (ST'd; Slutfish Records) 15.Fly Ashtray-- "Spirit of the Age" (Assassins of Silence Hawkwind Tribute; Ceres Records) 16.Neu!-- "Negativland" (ST'd; Astralwerks Records) 17.Hawkwind-- "Motorhead" (single b/w "Valium 10"/Anthology/Mighty HW Classics) 18.Pink Floyd-- "Nile Song" (More; EMI-Harvest Records) 19.Subarachnoid Space-- "So Near and Yeti so Far" (Flourescent Tunnelvision comp; Submergence/Mother West Records) thanks, Chuck From joe.e at TELIA.COM Fri Aug 3 07:05:40 2001 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:05:40 +0200 Subject: OFF: Now: Denny Gerrard - Was: High Tide Message-ID: >>...Finally there is 'Ancient Gates' - apparently a collaboration with >>an Indian vocalist, Sushi Krishnamurthi... > >... which reminds me: at around the time they recorded 'Sea Shanties' >and 'High Tide' (and, for that matter, 'Precious Cargo'), all four members >of the band recorded an album (for a different label - Deram, I think?) >backing someone named Denny Gerrard. Anyone have a copy? Anyone know >*anything* about this release? Never seen either an original or reissue, >myself ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com sorry for slow reply, but there is summer even far north... I've got this one. It's on DERAM (SDN 10), recorded may/june 1969, published 1970. Tracks: A: Native Sun, True Believer, Hole in My Shadow, Last But One B: Rough Stuff, Stop or Drop It, Autumn Blewn, Eye for Eye, Atmosphere Musicians: Denny Gerrard: acoustic guitar, mouth harp, vocals Tony Hill: electric guitar Simon House: organ & violin Pete Pavli: bass Roger Hadden: drums J J Mackey: words, reading on Atmosphere Lyn Husband & Sue Young: backing vocals I don't know Denny G, but I'm assuming this is more Denny Gerrard than High Tide. Quite good though, well done, a bit more produced and this LP should have been boring. I prefer the unpolished violin/gtr ecstasy of Death Warmed Up. .joe From nexus at PANIX.COM Fri Aug 3 07:04:01 2001 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:04:01 -0400 Subject: possible virus emails?? In-Reply-To: from "Richard Lockwood" at Aug 03, 2001 11:51:23 AM Message-ID: >================================= >Dear Hawk friends, >I have recieved to emails with "Oct" in the subject >and a message saying >I send you this email in order to obtain advice >and their is an attatchment This is SirCam. http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-22.html As someone pointed out, opening unexpected attachments is always a bad idea. (Of course, you could just run some OS other than Windows:-) JB From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Aug 3 07:25:09 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:25:09 EDT Subject: HW: double bass Message-ID: In a message dated 8/2/01 8:03:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > axually, mr paice played single bass > from early video excerpts i have > > "<>" Pierre Moerlin of Gong is the earliest I've noted...though what I perceive as "double-bass" could of course be something else... NP: Anubian Lights "Lazytown" Chuck From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Fri Aug 3 09:45:12 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:45:12 -0600 Subject: HW:a new remaster? Message-ID: According to CDZone, they are listing as a new release Doremei Fasol Latido (remaster) with an August 20, 2001 release date. Is this any different than the previous remaster, other than being less expensive? Mark Licht From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Aug 3 09:50:00 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:50:00 +0100 Subject: HW: a new remaster? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > According to CDZone, they are listing as a new release Doremei > Fasol Latido > (remaster) with an August 20, 2001 release date. Is this any > different than > the previous remaster, other than being less expensive? I believe these are jewel-case reissues, but otherwise the same as the previous remasters. Amazon.co.uk gives track listings for them. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Aug 3 11:06:10 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:06:10 +0100 Subject: HW:a new remaster? Message-ID: see this on www.cdzone.co.uk too: Hawkwind Singles -Greatest Hits (Imported) ?30.15 MSIF3595 apparently its a japanese import anyone know anything about it? cheers Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 Currently listening to: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Licht" To: Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 2:45 PM Subject: HW:a new remaster? > According to CDZone, they are listing as a new release Doremei Fasol Latido > (remaster) with an August 20, 2001 release date. Is this any different than > the previous remaster, other than being less expensive? > > Mark Licht From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Aug 3 12:49:07 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:49:07 -0600 Subject: HW:a new remaster? In-Reply-To: <004101c11c2d$d66c1c80$6cbb1e3e@gypo> Message-ID: First of all, thanks for this Colm, as I am a devouring Demon collecter, and this kind of thing is ever so important With a phone call to the expert Andy G, this mystery is now solved- I have it in my hand, it is the Japaneese copy of "Sonic Boom Killers", which is a German copy with an OBI strip added, making it 10 times more valuable, and not owning this would make life meaningless in the absolute extreme The paper strip means everything The number MSIF 3595 is the number added to the OBI strip.... cheers mike c From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Aug 3 13:24:28 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:24:28 -0600 Subject: HW: a new remaster? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The remasters are all being re-issued in jewel cases, and 1999 PARTY IS included.... this is your clue that you will suffer if not buying them,,,,there is those missing 0.02175 of a second at the beginings and ends, etc.... not to mention the dials and switches.... I also heard that Phil Howard has a CDR about to be out, including some work with the Captain, etc..... and speaking of the other Captain (Rizz)......life is a dull void if you don't have "I CAN SEE CLEARLY NOW MY BRAIN HAS GONE" I was too drunk to carry it around at the 98 SD fest, and I passed on it, and I suffered for 3 long years as a result of this rediculous horror in judgement... It's got Alan and Ron on it, it is simply fantastic, and after you play this, and then Manifesto back-to back, I feel confident that you will agree to "Chant For Rizz" in 2002 "I believe these are jewel-case reissues, but otherwise the same as the previous remasters. Amazon.co.uk gives track listings for them." -- Andy From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Fri Aug 3 13:00:37 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:00:37 -0600 Subject: HW: Capt Rizz albums Message-ID: I've got Manifesto, and never really liked it that much. Maybe I should play it again -- I think I only gave it two chances, and possibly it will sink in a bit after that. Is the followup better? I never could find the "I Can See Clearly Now" cd anywhere. Anybody got one for trade/sale? Thanks, Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c > and speaking of the other Captain (Rizz)......life is a dull void if you > don't have "I CAN SEE CLEARLY NOW MY BRAIN HAS GONE" > > I was too drunk to carry it around at the 98 SD fest, and I passed on it, > and I suffered for 3 long years as a result of this rediculous horror in > judgement... > > It's got Alan and Ron on it, it is simply fantastic, and after you play > this, and then Manifesto back-to back, I feel confident that you will agree > to "Chant For Rizz" in 2002 From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Aug 3 12:18:29 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:18:29 +0100 Subject: HW: a new remaster? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Andy Gilham writes >I believe these are jewel-case reissues, but otherwise the same as the >previous remasters. My bloke at EMI informs me that this is, indeed, the case. -- Jon From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Aug 3 13:14:18 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:14:18 +0100 Subject: HW: double bass Message-ID: >From my photo archives I can tell you that: Ginger played a Ludwig kit with a single bass drum, 4 toms, and a huge Ziljian Gong. Martin Griffin played a double bass drum kit on the Hawklords tour. As far as I can remember, Simon King continued to play a double drum kit after Alan Powell joined - in 1976 I believe there was a sponsorship deal with Pearl drums and they both had single kits as a result. And let's not forget Terry Ollis... Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alice To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:29 PM Subject: Re: HW: double bass > > == > > i didnt realize simon king played double bass > > not like baker > > Well... all we need are the pics of the HW drummers with their drumsets and > see is there a double bass or not. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Aug 3 14:22:34 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:22:34 -0600 Subject: HW: Capt Rizz albums In-Reply-To: <00ad01c11c3d$d2ab29a0$4d74a58e@pavilion> Message-ID: dear Brian- this is exactly why I did that mention- the second CD is just what was needed I think(IMHO), but unfortunately it didn't go out to very many (listeners) Simon Tipi's emails are bouncing, and I need another copy of this for a friend as well..... If anyone has a proper link please share... m c From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Aug 3 14:32:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:32:57 -0600 Subject: HW: a new remaster?/THE SPACE RITUAL MANUAL In-Reply-To: <0FPuXMAV7sa7EwiL@comics.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: "My bloke at EMI informs me that this is, indeed, the case." dear Jon thanks-- I was worried about the way I did that post- semi-humor, but now we know.... not for everyone- I wonder if "99 Party" might at least have something different..... Can someone please bring out the entirety of the Space Ritual "Manual", and any accompanying blueprints, footnotes, etc,,,, and how about some old notes on the "Warrior" concept/theme/anything at all is the time "fullish"?? m From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Aug 3 13:36:30 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:36:30 EDT Subject: HW: double bass Message-ID: In a message dated 8/3/01 1:15:51 PM, starfield at SUPANET.COM writes: << Ginger played a Ludwig kit with a single bass drum, 4 toms, and a huge Ziljian Gong. >> ======= i saw him once on the tv show 'supersonic' ,alone, playing a solo w/double bass. oy...so now i have to look up some pix w/cream;.... From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Aug 3 14:46:05 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:46:05 -0600 Subject: Judge Trev In-Reply-To: <0FPuXMAV7sa7EwiL@comics.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Dear list I think I can refrain after this (I think!) does anyone have a Britsh CD of Atomgods "History Re-Written" they would sell or trade for a USA edition, etc + whatever??? There is higher purpose to this than personal need- I already have it, but am having difficulty locating the British version on Communique label... and again....please someone help with a link to Capt Rizz thanks and goodbye for now Mike Coleman From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Aug 3 13:46:16 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:46:16 EDT Subject: HW: a new remaster?/THE SPACE RITUAL MANUAL Message-ID: In a message dated 8/3/01 1:30:34 PM, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: << I wonder if "99 Party" might at least have something different..... >> .....you mean other than canned applause? "<>" From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Aug 3 15:05:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Woodland Voice) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:05:57 -0600 Subject: HW: a new remaster?/THE SPACE RITUAL MANUAL In-Reply-To: <7d.18d5fa14.289c3d68@aol.com> Message-ID: ".....you mean other than canned applause?" (re 1999 Party Reissue possible differences) "<>"= larry boyd as long as they crank it up real loud, I will too, and it should give my city street a lively, warmish. "earthy" vibe when I'm violating the nearby dwellings with sonic vibration in the dead of the thick black moonless night(s).... "><"=visit when the car works- I'll get my sanity ASAP in prep From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Aug 3 14:37:35 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:37:35 EDT Subject: HW:Fall tour venues question Message-ID: Hello everybody. Anybody out there know which of these venues have reserved seating situtations as opposed to standing room or first come first served. I'm trying to make some tour plans, and want to prioritize by dealing with reserved seat venues first. Thanks to anyone with info. 3rd November Wyvern Theatre, Swindon 7th November Rock City, Nottingham 8th November The Sanctuary, Birmingham 14th November Opera House, Newcastle 16th November Coal Exchange, Cardiff 17th November Hitchin Town Hall 18th November Poole Arts Centre 19th November City Hall, Salisbury 23rd November Hastings Pier 24th November Walthamstow Assembly Hall Thanks to all. Yours, Eli Friedman Hallelujah for a Hawkwind tour. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Aug 3 20:51:07 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:51:07 BST Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Message-ID: That's the abridged version, the one I saw heavily involved Pythagoras and, as Steve said, it was quite an extensive piece of work. Mick > Mick (the artist?) > > A string of existence whereby the spirit realm occupies the upper portion >and the material is at the lower, and one where the galaxies are spread out >across, and band members have speakers strategiclly positioned to form >intersections of sound creating interactive new mental tones in the minds >of the audience, and of how the positioning of the performers (standing) >on painted platforms, each unique and attuned especially for each >player,are able to bring out the ultimate individual part to throw into the >mix of interplay with the audience bouncing back at the band and forming >unity, manifesting in various hues of color as reflected in the painting on >the amplifiers???? sort of a hub and wheel where the stadium is >participating on the full scope of awareness???? >m May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Aug 3 16:32:02 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:32:02 -0500 Subject: HW: november shows Message-ID: Hey there folks, Any other people coming in to see any of the november shows? If you are, do you have any thoughts on lodging and transportation? I'm coming in, roughly, 11/7-11/24 or 11/25, and am planning on hitting as many shows as I can. If anyone else is planning on doing something similar, perhaps we can split costs on lodging and transportation? Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Fri Aug 3 16:45:00 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:45:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: SLOTERDIJK organizing short european tour: Message-ID: SLOTERDIJK is seeking bookings in The Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland. At this time there are no dates, however the timeline we are looking at is roughly from December 25th-January16th. The route of the tour will be determined by where the first date takes place. cheers, MIke Burro (Sloterdijk) For a complete e-information packet or comments write to Sloterdijk at webtv.net or Sloterdijk at msn.com (this is the new primary address). www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Fri Aug 3 18:07:58 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:07:58 +0100 Subject: OFF/HW: double bass In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010802162926.006a15bc@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: At 21:29 02/08/01, you wrote: >At 09:36 8.2.01 EDT, you wrote: > >> yeah, he was among the first, or _the_ first, rock drummer to do > >> so...in cream. > >> > >> did keith moon? > >> maybe not? > > > >I've definitely seen pics of KM using a double outfit... >Michael Giles of the first King Crim used a double bass rig. I've SEEN Moon using a double kit... I'm slightly surprised about MG, but I wouldn't contradict, not having any piccies to hand Ian Paice definitely used a double, but maybe not always... The first guy I saw in person using one was Pete Dunton of T2 (my first ever real gig!) Funny nobody mentioned Jon Hiseman in this context - he's used a double as long as I can remember... John Marshall MAY have with Nucleus... Christian Vander? IMHO, too many drummers used 'em that shouldn't have - and a lot of my favourite drummers didn't e.g. Terry Williams of Man (who also never took a solo AFAIK) or Brian Spring who played with Stan Tracey for years,,, There's no point in having a huge kit just for the sake of it. I always thought the neatest idea was the single bass drum with the double pedal! More than 2p worth there I think! ChrisW NP: Radio 3 - Proms 2001, Julian Joseph Trio *Some days it just ain't worth chewing your way through the leather straps* From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Aug 3 18:19:01 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:19:01 -0400 Subject: OFF/HW: double bass Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:07:58 +0100, Chris Warburton wrote: >I've SEEN Moon using a double kit... Bastard! >The first guy I saw in person using one was Pete Dunton of T2 (my first >ever real gig!) BASTARD!!! ;^) >IMHO, too many drummers used 'em that shouldn't have - and a lot of my >favourite drummers didn't e.g. Terry Williams of Man (who also never took a >solo AFAIK) GREAT drummer ... who I've only seen with that boring arena/AOR band he joined afterwards :^( -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Aug 3 18:45:05 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:45:05 EDT Subject: OFF/HW: double bass...who's on first? Message-ID: In a message dated 8/3/01 6:19:28 PM, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: << >I've SEEN Moon using a double kit... >> i dunno man, i dunno.. this one thinks that some of these double kits discussed the last couple days were there for cosmetic effects only; with all the immortal flailing around done by keith moon, and his general disinclination to play 'simple' straight ahead rhythms [after-what- the second who lp?] what was he gonna do with a _second_ bass drum? to _see_ these 2 bass drums doesnt assure that 2 bass drums were axually being _played_. for opposing reasons, witness simon king and ginger baker* *see the cover of 'live cream vol.2' if memory serves; as if he never played double bass... and it's about time for m'sieu bouchard to contribute to this, i am thinking == beat me daddy, 8 on the floor... "<>" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Aug 3 19:40:19 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 09:10:19 +0930 Subject: HW: november shows - sorry about my silly identity sorry Message-ID: Hi Arin! I can't recall if I made this announcement publiclly previously but I am actually making a move to England. I arrive 7th September. I am intending to catch every concert date there after. The only thing concerning me is transport. So if there is going to be a group effort in the transportation department - and I'm not too far outta the way to be a pain in the butt I'd be happy to be a financial contributor in that venture :) regards Michael Blackman the ex colonial boy ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 6:02 AM Subject: HW: november shows > Hey there folks, > > Any other people coming in to see any of the november shows? > > If you are, do you have any thoughts on lodging and transportation? > > I'm coming in, roughly, 11/7-11/24 or 11/25, and am planning on hitting as > many shows as I can. > > If anyone else is planning on doing something similar, perhaps we can > split costs on lodging and transportation? > > Thanks, > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Aug 3 21:02:02 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Woodland Voice) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:02:02 -0600 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles In-Reply-To: <20010803195008.RSPE1412.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> Message-ID: That's the abridged version, the one I saw heavily involved Pythagoras and, as Steve said, it was quite an extensive piece of work. Mick Dear Mick... it's the weekend....could you embark on a quest, and put sorcery to the test?? Where can this be accessed.??..... or can someone MAKE it happen please mick (as well?) From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Aug 3 20:36:50 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:36:50 -0400 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Message-ID: I'm afraid I live many miles from London Mike, but I agree with your earlier post, a large format book featuring all the associated artwork and background info. etc, from the 'theme' albums - Ritual, Warrior, Quark, Hawklords and Alien4 would be very welcome > it's the weekend....could you embark on a quest, and put sorcery to the test?? >Where can this be accessed.??..... > >or can someone MAKE it happen > >please > >mick (as well?) May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Aug 3 20:46:22 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:46:22 EDT Subject: OFF: poul anderson Message-ID: In a message dated 8/2/01 8:52:30 PM US Eastern Standard Time, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > ... and saw that the memorial gathering is taking place 4 blocks from my > house on saturday! > > Pay my respects to him for me, would ya? Joe From erics at TELEPRES.COM Sat Aug 4 01:34:55 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:34:55 -0400 Subject: HW: november shows In-Reply-To: ; from akomins@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 03:32:02PM -0500 Message-ID: I'm fairly seriously considering this. But geez, 14 concerts in 2.5 weeks? Either it'll be amazing, or I'll be thoroughly, um, hawk-winded :-) If I do fly over, I'd certainly like to get in on a group thing. Besides the money, it'd be a lot more fun. When would you like to know by? On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 03:32:02PM -0500, Arin Komins wrote: > Hey there folks, > > Any other people coming in to see any of the november shows? > > If you are, do you have any thoughts on lodging and transportation? > > I'm coming in, roughly, 11/7-11/24 or 11/25, and am planning on hitting as > many shows as I can. > > If anyone else is planning on doing something similar, perhaps we can > split costs on lodging and transportation? > > Thanks, > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From coral at APORT.RU Sat Aug 4 03:32:13 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 11:32:13 +0400 Subject: OFF/HW: double bass...who's on first? Message-ID: > what was he gonna do with a _second_ bass drum? Have you ever heard speed metal, thrash metal, etc.? Drum sound in these styles is based on using double bass kit. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sat Aug 4 04:14:39 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 09:14:39 +0100 Subject: OFF/HW: double bass...who's on first? Message-ID: I always thought it was far simpler, and far more effective, just to get two drummers in, a la Pink Fairies at Acid Daze... Mind you, it doubles your trouble with (insert drummer joke of your choice here). :-) Cheers, Rich. > > what was he gonna do with a _second_ bass drum? > > Have you ever heard speed metal, thrash metal, etc.? Drum sound in these > styles is based on using double bass kit. > From achad13 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Aug 4 05:15:09 2001 From: achad13 at HOTMAIL.COM (dave evans) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 10:15:09 +0100 Subject: email attachments Message-ID: re: the virus email attachments: technically they're not viruses, so may not show up on virus scanners.... they tend to SEEM to be some sort of attached Word document (. doc ) or Excel spreadsheet (.xls) file, but the attached file is atcually called something like "October Costings.doc.pif" (or ".....xls.pif"). The . pif extension is the telling part; it stands for Program Information File, and if opened it can perform unwanted disk commands.... like wiping data, formatting disks etc etc As someone else has said- if you don't know the sender, don't open an attachment, and if you do know the sender, is there any reason for them to be sending you their latest business projections for the year? The virus part of this whole affair is what's doing the sending of the files; by scanning Outlook address books or whatever. A great link for virus information: http://www.symantec.com/ who have the latest info on real bugs, hoaxes and suchlike dave homepage http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/SpiritSt/achad13/index.html Tibet is not China www.tibet.org for every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. -- h. l. mencken From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Sat Aug 4 06:09:27 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 05:09:27 -0500 Subject: Judge Trev Message-ID: Which Rizz were you seeking? CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: mike c [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 1:46 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Judge Trev Dear list I think I can refrain after this (I think!) does anyone have a Britsh CD of Atomgods "History Re-Written" they would sell or trade for a USA edition, etc + whatever??? There is higher purpose to this than personal need- I already have it, but am having difficulty locating the British version on Communique label... and again....please someone help with a link to Capt Rizz thanks and goodbye for now Mike Coleman From guttercat9 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Aug 4 08:56:38 2001 From: guttercat9 at YAHOO.CO.UK (STEVE JOHNSON) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 05:56:38 -0700 Subject: HW: a new remaster?/THE SPACE RITUAL MANUAL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Woodland Voice wrote: as long as they crank it up real loud, I will too, and it should give my city street a lively, warmish. "earthy" vibe when I'm violating the nearby dwellings with sonic vibration in the dead of the thick black moonless night(s).... Earthy???????????????? Steve. On for Manchester - another lost weekend! --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Aug 4 10:20:41 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 08:20:41 -0600 Subject: HW: a new remaster?/THE SPACE RITUAL MANUAL In-Reply-To: <20010804125638.35333.qmail@web14911.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Steve: "Earthy????????????????" yes- THE HUMAN TOUCH that's if I was correct in my assumption that "canned applause" refers to enhancements/additions, etc. m c From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Aug 4 10:12:09 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 10:12:09 EDT Subject: OFF/HW: double bass...who's on first? Message-ID: In a message dated 8/4/01 3:34:37 AM, coral at APORT.RU writes: << Have you ever heard speed metal, thrash metal, etc.? Drum sound in these styles is based on using double bass kit. >> ======= and the sublect at hand just then was keith moon, was it not? "<>" From coral at APORT.RU Sat Aug 4 11:05:24 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 19:05:24 +0400 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles "Pyramidion" Message-ID: Hello! Today on cd-market I found OT cd "Pyramidion" but never heard of it and couldn't find such title in discogrpahy. So anyone knows what is it - compilation or what? regards, Alice From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Aug 4 11:06:44 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 10:06:44 -0500 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles "Pyramidion" Message-ID: It's the new Ozrics CD. More info at http://ozrics.com/ Karen Alice wrote: > > Hello! > Today on cd-market I found OT cd "Pyramidion" but never heard of it and > couldn't find such title in discogrpahy. So anyone knows what is it - > compilation or what? > > regards, > Alice From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Aug 4 12:09:58 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 17:09:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Following on from the note on Mission Control that Huw has officially rejoined the band, how will this work with two lead guitarists..will Jerry be playing Dave's role with Dave on keyboards? Any thoughts anybody? Ian From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Aug 4 11:59:11 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 11:59:11 EDT Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles "Pyramidion" Message-ID: It is indeed the new Ozrics EP, although it is virtually album length. It contains one new studio track, the title, and 4 tracks off of the 2 most recent studio outings performed live in Sheffield from last year. Its all great stuff, in my opinion. Yours, Eli Friedman In a message dated 8/4/01 10:07:18 AM, coral at APORT.RU writes: << Hello! Today on cd-market I found OT cd "Pyramidion" but never heard of it and couldn't find such title in discogrpahy. So anyone knows what is it - compilation or what? regards, Alice >> From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Aug 4 12:22:29 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 17:22:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: i would like to add to that. Seeing that Huw has rejoined hawkwind i wonder if he will still be playing the greasy truckers 2001 gig at the astoria as part of nik turners hawkestra? Since in the past there being alot of friction between niks projects and the hawkwind camp. btw i think its great that huw's rejoined! Now hawkwind have 8 members! I can't wait for the next studio album! Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Abrahams" To: Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Following on from the note on Mission Control that Huw has officially rejoined the band, how will this work with two lead guitarists..will Jerry be playing Dave's role with Dave on keyboards? Any thoughts anybody? Ian From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Aug 4 12:15:10 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:15:10 EDT Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: In a message dated 8/4/01 11:58:48 AM, ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << Following on from the note on Mission Control that Huw has officially rejoined the band, how will this work with two lead guitarists..will Jerry be playing Dave's role with Dave on keyboards? Any thoughts anybody? >> at the risk of irking the board, in the '80s my interest in HW seriously dwindled when Huw took over lead guitar....and IMO the trio lineup w/mr brock back on lead was second only to the 'space ritual/lemmy' era. aw, what the hell, i 'irk the board' alla time... "<>" From pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK Sat Aug 4 11:44:06 2001 From: pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Peter Wibrew) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 16:44:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles "Pyramidion" Message-ID: It's the *new* single EP, It kicks ass good style, the disc is pretty much album length as it comes with 4 live tracks from Sheffield on the 2000 tour........ I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU BUY THIS All the best Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice" To: Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 4:05 PM Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles "Pyramidion" > Hello! > Today on cd-market I found OT cd "Pyramidion" but never heard of it and > couldn't find such title in discogrpahy. So anyone knows what is it - > compilation or what? > > regards, > Alice From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Aug 4 12:34:37 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 17:34:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: > at the risk of irking the board, in the '80s my interest in HW seriously > dwindled when Huw took over lead guitar....and IMO the trio lineup w/mr brock > back on lead was second only to the 'space ritual/lemmy' era. > > aw, what the hell, i 'irk the board' alla time... > > "<>" well probably like most people here i will have to at least partly disagree with that. I think huw's guitar playing especially on live 79, live chronicles and the friday night rock show cd are excellent. But in saying that I still think that alot of hawkwinds studio output from the eighties was of a lower standard than what they did in the seventies. I don't think that you can just put that down to huw rejoining the band though. colm From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Aug 4 14:04:07 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (EYEROLL) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:04:07 -0600 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins In-Reply-To: <004b01c11d03$5b0bec60$2ebc1e3e@gypo> Message-ID: well probably like most people here i will have to at least partly disagree with that. I think huw's guitar playing especially on live 79, live chronicles and the friday night rock show cd are excellent. But in saying that I still think that alot of hawkwinds studio output from the eighties was of a lower standard than what they did in the seventies. I don't think that you can just put that down to huw rejoining the band though. colm ******************************************************************************** I am going back to getting 2 copies of all the CD's I think, now that Huw is in, I think they should all assemble The golden era is forged, beyond that, it all radiates, I have this feeling about the new stuff..... Death Generater approaching deactivation? helmet want helmet. m c From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Aug 4 13:14:47 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:14:47 -0400 Subject: OFF: SLOTERDIJK additional date 8/25 (Long Island, New York) Message-ID: Greetings!!!! Sloterdijk is happy to announce the rescheduled Long Island date has been confirmed!!! We look forward to seeing our Long Island, and NYC area friends soon!!! Here is the venue info etc... SLOTERDIJK at 'The Wrong Way Inn" Saturday, August 25th!!! 198 Broadway, Amityville, New York (Long Island) www.wrongwayinn.com venue phone# (631) 798-9132 Sloterdijk is scheduled to take the stage at 10PM.. Arrival by train is possible via 'The Long Island Railroad'..Get off at the Amityville stop on the 'Babylon' line..The venue is right around the block from the station. Hope to see you there!!!! www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From coral at APORT.RU Sat Aug 4 13:28:21 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 21:28:21 +0400 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles "Pyramidion" Message-ID: > It's the new Ozrics CD. I listened to it, great one! Seems like it's a live recording, very clean though. From coral at APORT.RU Sat Aug 4 13:32:58 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 21:32:58 +0400 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles "Pyramidion" Message-ID: and new title song is wonderful. Alice From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Aug 4 13:46:05 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 18:46:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: > > at the risk of irking the board, in the '80s my interest in HW seriously > dwindled when Huw took over lead guitar....and IMO the trio lineup w/mr brock > back on lead was second only to the 'space ritual/lemmy' era. > > aw, what the hell, i 'irk the board' alla time... Ah, you're such a purist, Larry! :-) Ian From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sat Aug 4 13:42:58 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:42:58 -0500 Subject: HW: november shows In-Reply-To: <20010804013455.H10307@telepres.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Eric Siegerman wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: november shows : :I'm fairly seriously considering this. But geez, 14 concerts in :2.5 weeks? Either it'll be amazing, or I'll be thoroughly, um, :hawk-winded :-) : :If I do fly over, I'd certainly like to get in on a group thing. :Besides the money, it'd be a lot more fun. : :When would you like to know by? whenever you can. Best to negotiate with companies from a position of strength ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Aug 4 13:55:15 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:55:15 EDT Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: In a message dated 8/4/01 1:35:50 PM, ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << Ah, you're such a purist, Larry! :-) >> oy..... and i should talk. we went through 3 bassists and 2 guitarists in my own, 'real', band [of which das ludicroix was _not_] 4 bassists if you count the one gig appearance of BOC-L's own 'rmayo' das ludicroix was a matter of 'whoever shows' "<>" From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sat Aug 4 14:58:35 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 14:58:35 -0400 Subject: OFF/BRAIN: MC5: A true testimonial teaser Message-ID: from waynekramer.com ,straight from the man himself: After the festival (where Ross the Boss and Handsome Dick Manitoba of the Dictators and To Hell With Love played to celebrate the Nomad's anniversary) I went down to Stockholm with the my brothers, the Hellacopters, and recorded two songs with them. A new original song we co-wrote and a cover of the MC5s "Gotta Keep Moving" for the album that will accompany the release of the MC5 dcumentary film "A True Testimonial" next year. time to move time to groove time to get down with it, Brother Bolts From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Fri Aug 3 19:48:47 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 00:48:47 +0100 Subject: OFF/HW: double bass...who's on first? In-Reply-To: <124.2ab055b.289c8371@aol.com> Message-ID: At 23:45 03/08/01, you wrote: >i dunno man, i dunno.. >this one thinks that some of these double kits discussed the last couple days >were there for cosmetic effects only; C'est possible cher ami, though NOT, I think any of those I mentioned... >with all the immortal flailing around >done by keith moon, and his general disinclination to play 'simple' straight >ahead rhythms [after-what- the second who lp?] > >what was he gonna do with a _second_ bass drum? Yet more immortal flailing - you could SEE it with the perspex kit that he used! >to _see_ these 2 bass drums doesnt assure that 2 bass drums were axually >being _played_. See above... but I've seen enough drummers that wasted too much time pratting about with a load of unnecessary kit instead of actually playing to have some sympathy with that comment!!! And, Doug, BASTARD maybe, but friendly with it - not my fault I grew up in Britain in the '70s *g* Aaah, the nostalgia: Groundhogs circa "Split", Man & Iceberg et al on the "Up For The Day" tour, VdGG with their equipment always breaking down, Alex Harvey holding an audience in the palm of his hand... UFO with Schenker in a club the size of an American suburban living room (I'll stop now before the rest of my hair falls out *GGG*) Love & Peace maaaan, ChrisW ObCD: Groundhogs - Hoggin' The Stage From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sat Aug 4 20:04:29 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 20:04:29 -0400 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Ian wrote: > Following on from the note on Mission Control that Huw has officially rejoined the band, how will this work with two lead guitarists..will Jerry be playing Dave's role with Dave on keyboards? Any thoughts anybody? I hope thats not the case, for me THE key sound of HW is Dave's guitar. Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Aug 4 20:54:10 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 20:54:10 EDT Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: In a message dated 8/4/01 8:04:57 PM, m.j.crook at TALK21.COM writes: << I hope thats not the case, for me THE key sound of HW is Dave's guitar. >> y yo tambien "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Aug 4 21:13:07 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 21:13:07 EDT Subject: OFF/HW: double bass...who's on first? what's on 2nd? Message-ID: In a message dated 8/4/01 5:47:29 PM, desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM writes: << >to _see_ these 2 bass drums doesnt assure that 2 bass drums were axually >being _played_. See above... but I've seen enough drummers that wasted too much time pratting about with a load of unnecessary kit instead of actually playing to have some sympathy with that comment!!! >> i...um....dont understand. are you unsympathetically in agreement? or... "<>" From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Sat Aug 4 21:20:52 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 20:20:52 -0500 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: I'm looking forward to hearing Huw back in the band. With two lead guitarists, things stand to get a good bit more "out there" and just plain interesting. Huw has that somewhat prog style, with his oftentimes odd scale choices, and Jerry does that feedback thing wonderfully... oh it is an age of wonders we're living in! And am I wrong or is Alan actually back in the band more or less full time? John Majka jmajka2 at home.com Following on from the note on Mission Control that Huw has officially rejoined the band, how will this work with two lead guitarists..will Jerry be playing Dave's role with Dave on keyboards? Any thoughts anybody? Ian From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat Aug 4 22:52:49 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 22:52:49 EDT Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: In a message dated 8/4/2001 12:16:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK writes: << btw i think its great that huw's rejoined! Now hawkwind have 8 members! I can't wait for the next studio album! >> And this my friends is the BEST HW lineup EVER!! Best regards, Bill Stewart From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Aug 5 01:50:31 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 06:50:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka > I'm looking forward to hearing Huw back in the band. With two lead > guitarists, things stand to get a good bit more "out there" and just plain > interesting. Huw has that somewhat prog style, with his oftentimes odd > scale choices, and Jerry does that feedback thing wonderfully... oh it is an > age of wonders we're living in! And am I wrong or is Alan actually back in > the band more or less full time? > John Majka > jmajka2 at home.com I think Alan confirmed that he had rejoined a month or so ago in one of the band's IRC chats? Ian From coral at APORT.RU Sun Aug 5 06:40:09 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:40:09 +0400 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: > > Following on from the note on Mission Control that Huw has officially rejoined the band, how will this work with two lead guitarists..will Jerry be playing Dave's role with Dave on keyboards? Any thoughts anybody? > > I hope thats not the case, for me THE key sound of HW is Dave's guitar. Why he should concentrate on keys? When there's a lead guitarist available Dave plays rhythm guitar. His main role is rhythm. So what's the problem? Alice From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sun Aug 5 07:36:45 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 19:36:45 +0800 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: > In a message dated 8/4/2001 12:16:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK writes: > > << btw i think its great that huw's rejoined! Now hawkwind have 8 members! I > can't wait for the next studio album! >> > > > And this my friends is the BEST HW lineup EVER!! > > Best regards, > Bill Stewart It's great to see Hawkwind in such a strong position 30+ years on. I can't wait for the next album either. Cheers Bill > From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sun Aug 5 07:54:48 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:54:48 +0100 Subject: HW/NIK: Barney exhibit at Blackpool Message-ID: I've just heard that the Barney Bubbles exhibition, currently on in London, will be at the Turner gang's show in Blackpool next week, and also that Harvey Bainbridge is joining the lineup for Blackpool and Crewe. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Sun Aug 5 09:35:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:35:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Best ever? Message-ID: << btw i think its great that huw's rejoined! Now hawkwind have 8 members! I can't wait for the next studio album! >> >>And this my friends is the BEST HW lineup EVER!! Nahh... not quite. If Simon King were to come out of retirement and join Richard in another twin-drummer setup as well... now THAT would put the icing on the cake! 8-) Seriously, I've never managed to work out my ideal HW - I keep changing my mind and it seems that they have a certain magic about them whoever's in the band. Though some of the Nik-led stuff I can do without.... ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Aug 5 10:04:31 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 15:04:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Alice > Why he should concentrate on keys? When there's a lead guitarist available > Dave plays rhythm guitar. His main role is rhythm. So what's the problem? Just speculating about the role of two lead guitarists, Alice, not suggesting it's a problem. Ian From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Aug 5 10:51:49 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:51:49 +0000 Subject: HW: Best ever? Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Aug 5 11:06:44 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 16:06:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Best ever? Message-ID: Isn't harvey kind of a member when they play live anyway i mean he has appeared quite a lot recently with them on stage? Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 From: Fraser Gray Yeah, Huw re-joining is great. But i must disagree about the Nik comment, In my opinion if Nik came back as well, it would be the icing on the cake, and for the cherry on top, add Harvey to the line up too. I think the lineup you first saw and the 1st album you bought has a lot to do with who your ideal line up would be, ( thats "earth ritual" and Zones, in my case) (sort of like the Doctor Who you grew up watching being the best in your opinion, John Pertwee 4 me) >From: Steve Litchfield >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: Best ever? >Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:35:00 +0100 > ><< btw i think its great that huw's rejoined! Now hawkwind have 8 members! >I can't wait for the next studio album! >> > >>And this my friends is the BEST HW lineup EVER!! > >Nahh... not quite. If Simon King were to come out of retirement and join >Richard in another twin-drummer setup as well... now THAT would put the >icing on the cake! 8-) > >Seriously, I've never managed to work out my ideal HW - I keep changing my >mind and it seems that they have a certain magic about them whoever's in >the band. Though some of the Nik-led stuff I can do without.... >____________________________________________________________________ >Steve Litchfield >Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Aug 5 11:05:58 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 15:05:58 +0000 Subject: HW: Best ever? Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Aug 5 11:18:12 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 16:18:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Best ever? Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Colm McWilliams Isn't harvey kind of a member when they play live anyway i mean he has appeared quite a lot recently with them on stage? Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 During the 1999 Mini-Tour and at Hawkestra & Astoria, but I think he's in America during the November tour schedule? Ian From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Aug 5 11:22:40 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 16:22:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Best ever? Message-ID: i wonder for the november tour who will do the keyboard parts then? I mean dave brock kinda still plays guitar mostly and keith kniveton i presumb is supplying the woshing noises on his audio generator/EMS thingy, while simon house is on violin. Or will the keyboard parts be all sequenced? would be cool if simon could put down he violin for a bit though and play some keys. Myabe they could hire a mellotron for the tour and let him loose on that! :-) colm From: "Ian Abrahams" > > During the 1999 Mini-Tour and at Hawkestra & Astoria, but I think he's in > America during the November tour schedule? > > Ian From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sun Aug 5 11:44:14 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:44:14 +0800 Subject: HW: Best ever? Message-ID: I thought Harvey was a "permanent guest." Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Abrahams" To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 11:18 PM Subject: Re: HW: Best ever? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colm McWilliams > > > Isn't harvey kind of a member when they play live anyway i mean he has > appeared quite a lot recently with them on stage? > Colm McWilliams > ICQ: #62753543 > > During the 1999 Mini-Tour and at Hawkestra & Astoria, but I think he's in > America during the November tour schedule? > > Ian > From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Aug 5 12:00:58 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 17:00:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Best ever? Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia > I thought Harvey was a "permanent guest." > Well, Simon seems to be a "permanent guest" but Harvey hasn't played at all this year, as far as I know. Ian From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Aug 5 12:38:51 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 00:38:51 +0800 Subject: HW: Best ever? Message-ID: I like HW with Nik up until around the time the Calvert era drew to a close. When Nik came back with his punk look his style of approach was too different for me, and there was very little of his sax playing, & the flute was forgotten about. By the way, that's Jon Pertwee. William ----- Original Message ----- From: Fraser Gray To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 10:51 PM Subject: Re: HW: Best ever? Yeah, Huw re-joining is great. But i must disagree about the Nik comment, In my opinion if Nik came back as well, it would be the icing on the cake, and for the cherry on top, add Harvey to the line up too. I think the lineup you first saw and the 1st album you bought has a lot to do with who your ideal line up would be, ( thats "earth ritual" and Zones, in my case) (sort of like the Doctor Who you grew up watching being the best in your opinion, John Pertwee 4 me) >From: Steve Litchfield >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: Best ever? >Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:35:00 +0100 > ><< btw i think its great that huw's rejoined! Now hawkwind have 8 members! >I can't wait for the next studio album! >> > >>And this my friends is the BEST HW lineup EVER!! > >Nahh... not quite. If Simon King were to come out of retirement and join >Richard in another twin-drummer setup as well... now THAT would put the >icing on the cake! 8-) > >Seriously, I've never managed to work out my ideal HW - I keep changing my >mind and it seems that they have a certain magic about them whoever's in >the band. Though some of the Nik-led stuff I can do without.... >____________________________________________________________________ >Steve Litchfield >Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Aug 5 12:49:24 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:49:24 EDT Subject: OFF/HW: double bass...who's on first? what's on second? Message-ID: In a message dated 8/4/01 10:12:38 AM, DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: << Have you ever heard speed metal, thrash metal, etc.? Drum sound in these styles is based on using double bass kit. >> ==== you're right. i've been living in a cave all these years -_- was nixon re-elected? is vietnam over? and, indeed, i quite understand the significance of double bass in in that music. never mind that this is a significant digression from talk of keith moon, simon king etc more to the point i _really_ dislike the genres you mention with, of course, a few exceptions. [yo, rmayo!] personally, i would much prefer the sound of 'driving straight ahead' to the sound of a hovercraft or helicopter. to rock is to be driving straight ahead. ======= now playing: 'Ayeshteni', the new cd by NATACHA ATLAS "<>" From nycademon at HOME.COM Sun Aug 5 12:59:00 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:59:00 -0600 Subject: Hello again boc-l Message-ID: Hello All-- I'm a former boc-l member who took a long break (perusing the archives, it looks like my last post was in 1997!), and I'm looking forward to getting up to snuff on all things Hawkwind. So, "hello" to anyone who remembers me, and "hello" to anyone who doesn't. :-) Guido Vacano obCDplayer -- Good Dog Happy Man by Bill Frisell obCONCERT -- Tool and King Crimson at Red Rocks last Friday From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Aug 5 13:05:54 2001 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 17:05:54 +0000 Subject: HW: Best ever? Message-ID: Hobbit! >From: William Duffy >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Best ever? >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 00:38:51 +0800 > >I like HW with Nik up until around the time the Calvert era drew to a >close. When Nik came back with his punk look his style of approach was too >different for me, and there was very little of his sax playing, & the flute >was forgotten about. > >By the way, that's Jon Pertwee. > >William > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fraser Gray > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 10:51 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Best ever? > > > Yeah, Huw re-joining is great. But i must disagree about the Nik >comment, In my opinion if Nik came back as well, it would be the icing on >the cake, and for the cherry on top, add Harvey to the line up too. > > I think the lineup you first saw and the 1st album you bought has a lot >to do with who your ideal line up would be, ( thats "earth ritual" and >Zones, in my case) (sort of like the Doctor Who you grew up watching being >the best in your opinion, John Pertwee 4 me) > > > > > > >From: Steve Litchfield > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: HW: Best ever? > >Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:35:00 +0100 > > > ><< btw i think its great that huw's rejoined! Now hawkwind have 8 >members! > >I can't wait for the next studio album! >> > > >>And this my friends is the BEST HW lineup EVER!! > > > >Nahh... not quite. If Simon King were to come out of retirement and >join > >Richard in another twin-drummer setup as well... now THAT would put the > >icing on the cake! 8-) > > > >Seriously, I've never managed to work out my ideal HW - I keep changing >my > >mind and it seems that they have a certain magic about them whoever's >in > >the band. Though some of the Nik-led stuff I can do without.... > >____________________________________________________________________ > >Steve Litchfield > >Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Aug 5 13:48:38 2001 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 13:48:38 -0400 Subject: Al on Ebay In-Reply-To: <104.725afc4.289ed314@aol.com> Message-ID: The time has come to make some space in Cellsum World Headquarters so various items from the past are being put up for sale on ebay.com. The first is a tiny non-working (I think - lost the power supply) Pignose amplifier that was used on all Albert Bouchard's demos from 1975 through 1978. Some of the songs first played through this amplifier are: Tattoo Vampire, Imaginos, Sally, Hansel and Gretel, Laura's Plastic Swords, R U Ready to Rock, Fireworks, and Fire of Unknown Origin. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1453050645 P.S. I've always been partial to a two feet on the kick drum technique. Keeping a nice steady groove with two feet can be tricky (how about that live Dizbusters on the T&M remaster?) but using a double footed approach to fills can be quite awesome. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Aug 5 14:53:33 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM ("Slow Ass" Mike) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:53:33 -0600 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins In-Reply-To: <001101c11d9b$0090a3a0$7603efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: "Why he should concentrate on keys? When there's a lead guitarist available Dave plays rhythm guitar. His main role is rhythm. So what's the problem?" Inserting opinion (of course!)! It is because as good as Huw is and "God" as he is, at this point, and (the) same for Jerry, many people (myself included) would have their best enjoyment if Dave would do like the old days, and step firmly out front, and play guitar predominantly, and not be in the corner doing as much keyboards/synth, etc... I mean, it's only the best guitar sound in all the far-reaching world..... But whatever Dave is co-ordinating, it will be great, and if we get that wonderful guitar sound in "doses", so be it... now where's that helmet I believe I read Moorcock is going to be involved in future, and Huw's back!!!! HUW IS BACK!!!!! (I had asked for more Huw- truth be told) m c From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Aug 5 15:04:05 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM ("Slow Ass" Mike) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 13:04:05 -0600 Subject: HW: Best ever? In-Reply-To: <003f01c11dc2$78460440$59bc1e3e@gypo> Message-ID: "would be cool if simon could put down he violin for a bit though and play some keys. Myabe they could hire a mellotron for the tour and let him loose on that! :-)" GOOD THINKING!!! although I have high hopes of what Keith is to bring to the table, so if they could coordinate this.....WOW and Simon King!!! yes!!!! m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Aug 5 15:08:51 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM ("Slow Ass" Mike) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 13:08:51 -0600 Subject: OFF/HW: double bass...who's on first? what's on second? In-Reply-To: <104.725afc4.289ed314@aol.com> Message-ID: Hello "<>"..... so just for weirdness sake (hehe), since this metal cave-man drummer thread appeared How about a VenomWind project???? Abaddon??? don't answer this. unless I won't be embarrased!!! m c From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Sun Aug 5 14:38:03 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:38:03 -0600 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: So who are the eight official members? In order of their current longevity, I get only these 7: Dave B. Richard C. Ron T. Jerry R. Keith K. Alan D. Huw L-L. Or did Simon rejoin? Possibly Harvey? Thanks, Bryan From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Aug 5 14:53:04 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:53:04 EDT Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me Message-ID: In a message dated 8/5/01 2:06:32 PM, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: << Venom >>Wind project???? >> you mean like the band "venom"? rmayo told me that these blokes were self-conscious their about being a put-on despite their audience taking 'em too goldurn seriousy and that keeps them of my [finger down throat] list. nominee for "worst album i ever heard" sent to me by a friend and given away by me asap... Venom "at war with satan" [shudder and a half] in second place "cast of thousands" by the Adverts, 2nd lp the very first lp i bought, played once and filed. yeesh. qualified by saying that the first lp, "crossing the red see w/..." is an all-time favorite == but we digress "<>" From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Sun Aug 5 14:58:15 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:58:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Hello again boc-l Message-ID: > I'm a former boc-l member who took a long break (perusing the archives, it >looks like my last post was in 1997!), and I'm looking forward to getting up >to snuff on all things Hawkwind. So, "hello" to anyone who remembers me, and >"hello" to anyone who doesn't. :-) Hell yeah, I remember you... we had a little "flame war" back in the old days, didn't we? ;-) Welcome back. Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Aug 5 16:10:37 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:10:37 -0600 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me In-Reply-To: <110.3673153.289ef010@aol.com> Message-ID: "<>": "Venom "at war with satan" [shudder and a half] Exactly why I love it prefer Black Metal, though I think they sort of "Go Together" I keep creeping back to them creep- creep- tip-toe tip-toe, creepcreepcreep...123 "*" I think Abaddon (for lack of his real name) was axially a real skinsman- but I don't know for sure- why I mentioned it (thought you'd maybe appreciate that aspect) he had a big kit! (silly nervous grin with blackened front tooth showing)) m From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sun Aug 5 15:09:25 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 20:09:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Don't forget Uncle Tim. ----- Original Message ----- From: BL Young To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 7:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Huw Rejoins > So who are the eight official members? > In order of their current longevity, I get only these 7: > > Dave B. > Richard C. > Ron T. > Jerry R. > Keith K. > Alan D. > Huw L-L. > > Or did Simon rejoin? Possibly Harvey? > > Thanks, > > Bryan From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Aug 5 15:20:40 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 15:20:40 EDT Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me Message-ID: In a message dated 8/5/01 3:08:05 PM, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: << Exactly why I love it prefer Black Metal, though I think they sort of "Go Together" >> just remember that they werent taking it seriously === not like some o'that unlistenable [IMO] norwegian stuff. ================== tops on my list of "someday" "back to mono", the Phil Spector 4cd box, retrospective da doo ron ron "<>" From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Sun Aug 5 17:27:22 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 17:27:22 EDT Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me Message-ID: he was an absolutely TERRIBLE drummer; anyone, musician and non-musician alike can hear him hopelessly flail out of time on all of their moderately-fast to fast songs...wow he was bad. Check out 'manitou' for the worst double bass work ever recorded. like the record is warped... and he would come out of a fill and be eiether way ahead of or way behind the rest of the guys. calling this guy a drummer is like calling...oh fuck it. he sucked remarkably. he was so bad i was amazed. cronos, however, was/is actually a smokin' bassist and a real character bobm From nycademon at HOME.COM Sun Aug 5 18:32:09 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 16:32:09 -0600 Subject: Hello again boc-l In-Reply-To: <200108051858.OAA14438@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hey Alex-- Yeah, I do remember, though I think we amicably decided to "agree to disagree". :-) I'm glad you're still here. Nice to "see" your friendly face again. Guido -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Alex S. Garcia Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 12:58 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Re: Hello again boc-l > I'm a former boc-l member who took a long break (perusing the archives, it >looks like my last post was in 1997!), and I'm looking forward to getting up >to snuff on all things Hawkwind. So, "hello" to anyone who remembers me, and >"hello" to anyone who doesn't. :-) Hell yeah, I remember you... we had a little "flame war" back in the old days, didn't we? ;-) Welcome back. Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From novadrive at HOME.COM Sun Aug 5 18:54:12 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 15:54:12 -0700 Subject: HW: Permutations In-Reply-To: <004f01c11de2$25518b40$151028d5@starfield> Message-ID: I don't think you'll easily tear Alan completely away from his synths/sequencers, and don't forget Jerry dabbles in them as well (and Ron's Death Generator???), so keys are probably not a problem.. But how about a Ron/Alan bass duel? And since Simon King isn't a real possibility, maybe Terry Ollis on a second kit? And, and, and,,,,, KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 12:09 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Huw Rejoins Don't forget Uncle Tim. ----- Original Message ----- From: BL Young To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 7:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Huw Rejoins > So who are the eight official members? > In order of their current longevity, I get only these 7: > > Dave B. > Richard C. > Ron T. > Jerry R. > Keith K. > Alan D. > Huw L-L. > > Or did Simon rejoin? Possibly Harvey? > > Thanks, > > Bryan From swann at CUGC.ORG Sun Aug 5 20:19:34 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 20:19:34 -0400 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins In-Reply-To: <20010805000118.WHHL6167.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs>; from m.j.crook@TALK21.COM on Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 08:04:29PM -0400 Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 08:04:29PM -0400, Michael Crook wrote: > Ian wrote: > > Following on from the note on Mission Control that Huw has officially rejoined the band, how will this work with two lead guitarists..will Jerry be playing Dave's role with Dave on keyboards? Any thoughts anybody? > > I hope thats not the case, for me THE key sound of HW is Dave's guitar. Couldn't have said it better myself. I wonder if Dave ever gets tired of hearing what he ought and ought not do from the likes of us? "Dave, play more guitar", "Dave, sing more", "Dave, come to my city". ;-) Steve From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Aug 5 20:52:03 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 20:52:03 EDT Subject: Hello again boc-l Message-ID: In a message dated 8/5/01 3:29:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, nycademon at HOME.COM writes: > Hey Alex-- > > Yeah, I do remember, though I think we amicably decided to "agree to > disagree". :-) I'm glad you're still here. Nice to "see" your friendly face > again. > > Guido I remember that "there used to be a Guido"... does that count? :) welcome back, Chuck (trying to hold my tongue on the Venom comments, I know Born-Again Satanist Charlie Yuga will come to the rescue...right???) From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sun Aug 5 21:18:26 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:18:26 EDT Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: In a message dated 8/5/2001 3:10:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, starfield at SUPANET.COM writes: << Don't forget Uncle Tim >> Whoa........Is Tim Blake an actual member? Bill From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sun Aug 5 21:22:23 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:22:23 EDT Subject: HW Lights Message-ID: Anyone know who's doing the light show this tour? Bill From nycademon at HOME.COM Sun Aug 5 21:40:49 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 19:40:49 -0600 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins In-Reply-To: <20010805201934.A2051@cugc.org> Message-ID: Hello-- I always liked Huw's lead guitar better, mainly because I think Dave is best in other capacities. He's an excellent rhythm guitarist with a unique style (which I think is unusual for rhythm guitar). Of equal importance, Hawkwind needs Dr. Technical spending a bit of time on keyboards and synth. Huw is IMHO the best lead guitarist. I'm glad he's back. Guido -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Stephen Swann Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 6:20 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Huw Rejoins On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 08:04:29PM -0400, Michael Crook wrote: > Ian wrote: > > Following on from the note on Mission Control that Huw has officially rejoined the band, how will this work with two lead guitarists..will Jerry be playing Dave's role with Dave on keyboards? Any thoughts anybody? > > I hope thats not the case, for me THE key sound of HW is Dave's guitar. Couldn't have said it better myself. I wonder if Dave ever gets tired of hearing what he ought and ought not do from the likes of us? "Dave, play more guitar", "Dave, sing more", "Dave, come to my city". ;-) Steve From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sun Aug 5 23:46:04 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 22:46:04 -0500 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Hmmmm...yup, I always thought that during the Hawkwind incarnation that included Huw's contributions on especially the Levitation album and even Choose your Masks , both guitarists pretty well complemented one other, Though Huw's lead was in the forefront, I thought in was pretty honorable that Dave stepped back, and let him Huw go with it. Huw's lead was pretty fluid, and I can't happen to appreciate the way it all fit together as a whole. Great chemistry! Dave's lead playing is all right, and it has always fit the song (Damnation Alley, and any other he has played lead on), as has Huw's (Motorway City!) though I agree thatHuw is definitely more of a lead player that Dave, and it that it all still makes it Hawkwind. I don't think that it is a matter of who is in the forefront, but who can contribute to what puts the tune together, whatever instrument or what role the musician has, and what sounds can be put together that makes the experience. That is the spirit of Hawkwind, IMO, and what makes them a great band. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 6 02:36:45 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 00:36:45 -0600 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me In-Reply-To: <23.f726441.289f143a@aol.com> Message-ID: There is- however distant, a connection..... Venom is included on the Canadian Griffin CD label radio promo sampler, along with HW, M. Moorcock, Justin Hayward, Rick Wakeman, and Dana Gillespie....(Called Griffin Music Sampler Vol.1, Summer 1995)(on Sony Import label) strange very strange I have a German collecter friend who wants this, and if anybody has one or can get one, he can be trusted to send a trade or money in a lightning flash PS- I have never been a judge with drummers- I seem to be drummer deaf, however Simon King stuck in my head like no-one else, and Richard Seems to be quite adept.... I only did this as a joke since "<>" was "metally questioned", and I expected a reaction, and got one... m c any further hatred or praise of this band is highly interesting to me, not that you care....AND whats the deal with the Skynyrd bassist- I saw a post here that he kicked the bucket- in a hotel?? age 49? what happened? From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Aug 6 01:47:10 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 22:47:10 -0700 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: I totally concur. While Dave is far more than just a fair lead guitarist, I personally feel that Huw's lead guitar is a perfect complement for Dave's rythym abilities. Seems to me that rythym guitar as well as bass are often underappreciated. Dave Brock is an outstanding rythymist, good all around musician and absolutely brillant song writer and arranger - Thems Me Thoughts Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Clark To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 8:46 PM Subject: Re: HW: Huw Rejoins > Hmmmm...yup, I always thought that during the Hawkwind incarnation that > included Huw's contributions on especially the Levitation album and even > > Choose your Masks , both guitarists pretty well complemented one > other, Though Huw's lead was in the forefront, I thought in was pretty > > honorable that Dave stepped back, and let him Huw go with it. Huw's lead > > was pretty fluid, and I can't happen to appreciate the way it all fit > together as a whole. Great chemistry! Dave's lead playing is all > right, and it has always fit the song (Damnation Alley, and any other he > > has played lead on), as has Huw's (Motorway City!) though I agree > thatHuw is definitely more of a lead player that Dave, and it that it > all still makes it Hawkwind. I don't think that it is a matter of who > is in the forefront, but who can contribute to what puts the tune > together, whatever instrument or what role the musician has, and what > sounds can be put together that makes the experience. That is the > spirit of Hawkwind, IMO, and what makes them a great band. From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Aug 6 01:50:09 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 22:50:09 -0700 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me Message-ID: >From the radio reports I've heard, Skynard's bassist died of liver and kidney failure - supposedly from natural causes. - Steve The Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 11:36 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me > There is- however distant, a connection..... > Venom is included on the Canadian Griffin CD label radio promo sampler, > along with HW, M. Moorcock, Justin Hayward, Rick Wakeman, and Dana > Gillespie....(Called Griffin Music Sampler Vol.1, Summer 1995)(on Sony > Import label) > > strange > > very strange > > I have a German collecter friend who wants this, and if anybody has one or > can get one, he can be trusted to send a trade or money in a lightning flash > > PS- I have never been a judge with drummers- I seem to be drummer deaf, > however Simon King stuck in my head like no-one else, and Richard Seems to > be quite adept.... > > I only did this as a joke since "<>" was "metally questioned", and I > expected a reaction, and got one... > > m c > > any further hatred or praise of this band is highly interesting to me, not > that you care....AND > > whats the deal with the Skynyrd bassist- I saw a post here that he kicked > the bucket- in a hotel?? age 49? > > what happened? From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 6 01:51:43 2001 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 05:51:43 +0000 Subject: HW: Best ever? Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 6 03:03:02 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 01:03:02 -0600 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me In-Reply-To: <23.f726441.289f143a@aol.com> Message-ID: rcmayo:*snippet* "..oh fuck it. he" sucked remarkably".*snippet* but look at the *cool* language it brought out! I'm into it! and "check out Manitou" just sounds cool- I love that tune, weird time warpage and all- I have always had so much trouble understanding the white noise aspect of the guitars, now I can listen for drummer sewage kewel! and Robert, seems like I spoke to you once- apologies if I think of someone else mike c From dahl at AROS.NET Mon Aug 6 03:30:19 2001 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 01:30:19 -0600 Subject: BOC: Al on double bass Message-ID: >>>(how about that live Dizbusters on the T&M remaster?) but using a double footed approach to fills can be quite awesome. I've always loved your use of the double kick on Cities On Flame on OYFOOYK. Quick question Al, when you guys played Dizbusters, did you and Buck have most of that guitar solo spot worked out, or was it pretty much improv every night? The interplay there is great. Were you mostly playing to him, or was it both ways? Weird, wild stuff your drumming is. Brad From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Aug 6 05:26:57 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:26:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Concerned of Bristol here, last couple of times I've seen Huw he's been awful. The albums where he was under control "live 79, levitation and Sonic attack" are 20 years old now..After those albums he tuned the band into some kind of heavy metal parody Can he still play in tune ? has anyone seen any of his solo concerts or with his band ? what did it sound like ? Based on what I heard at Brixton and Croydon ( on video ) he has not left me with any confidence that he can play like he used to. Looking forward to good reports from the Canterbury gig so that these words will return to haunt me for eternity, And that what i've heard so far has just been a blip. main thing is I hope is that uncle Nik doesn't come back into the fold !! Peace iain From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Mon Aug 6 06:20:13 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:20:13 EDT Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me Message-ID: In a message dated 08/06/2001 1:02:02 AM, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: << and Robert, seems like I spoke to you once- apologies if I think of someone else mike c >> not sure; apology accepted 'just in case.' lol bobm From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 6 07:21:27 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 07:21:27 EDT Subject: BOC: Al on double bass In-Reply-To: <008701c11e49$a5e24580$8c19adcf@sony> Message-ID: On 6 Aug 2001, at 1:30, Brad Dahl wrote: > >>>(how about that live Dizbusters on the T&M remaster?) but using a > >>>double > footed approach to fills can be quite awesome. > I'm not too up on the tech side of drumming, but I could swear the last time I saw tBS, Al was using a double pedal on one bass drum. Is this possible? Is this done so that you can get a double sound without having to transport an extra bass drum? Also, when drummers use 2 bass drums, are they tuned differently? I think I've seen drummers with a double bass setup use 2 different drums. Possible? theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 6 07:23:23 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 07:23:23 EDT Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me In-Reply-To: <010e01c11e3b$a79ef200$53fbb3d1@kathleens> Message-ID: On 5 Aug 2001, at 22:50, Steve Moody wrote: > From the radio reports I've heard, Skynard's bassist died of liver and > kidney failure - supposedly from natural causes. - Steve The Moonman He died in his sleep--that's how I heard it. But he wasn't with Skynyrd at the time, was he? theo From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Aug 6 07:44:10 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 12:44:10 +0100 Subject: BOC: Al on double bass Message-ID: Theo, main reason for not having 2 bass drums is so that you can use the hi-hat more effectivelyl. Many double bass drummers close the hi-hit most of the time. Whilst a drummer that uses a lot of hit hat yet wants the flexibility of being able to use 2 bass drum pedals will have a double pedal and be able to dance onto the hi-hat very easily and back to the bass drum pedal when needed. It gives you greater flexibility in what you can do. If you're not tall like myself, I find a double bass drum a hinderance as you have to spead your legs futher with the 2 drums. I therefore opted for a double pedal for a while, before going back completely to a single pedal. But surely the number one reason to have a double beater instead of to drums is so that you dont look too heavy metal unless thats the style your playing.. regards iain Ted Jackson wrote: > On 6 Aug 2001, at 1:30, Brad Dahl wrote: > > > >>>(how about that live Dizbusters on the T&M remaster?) but using a > > >>>double > > footed approach to fills can be quite awesome. > > > I'm not too up on the tech side of drumming, but I could swear the > last time I saw tBS, Al was using a double pedal on one bass drum. > Is this possible? Is this done so that you can get a double sound > without having to transport an extra bass drum? Also, when > drummers use 2 bass drums, are they tuned differently? I think I've > seen drummers with a double bass setup use 2 different drums. > Possible? > > theo From robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK Mon Aug 6 08:16:44 2001 From: robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK (Stuckey, Robert) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:16:44 +0100 Subject: Huw rejoins Message-ID: > >at the risk of irking the board, in the '80s my interest in HW seriously >dwindled when Huw took over lead guitar....and IMO the trio lineup w/mr brock >back on lead was second only to the 'space ritual/lemmy' era. > >aw, what the hell, i 'irk the board' alla time... > >"<>" > Couldn't agree more, with the possible exception of Motorway City, everything else Huw did was bollocks, especially the Chronicles stuff ...dull, dull, dull...he made all the tracks he played on sound the same!!!! In my opinion anyway. bye - Rob From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Mon Aug 6 08:34:02 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:34:02 +0100 Subject: Huw rejoins Message-ID: Huh? Listen to Solitary Mind Games, Dreaming City, Waiting For Tomorrow, Moonglum and Sword of the East (a random selection off the top of my head) and then tell me they all sound the same. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuckey, Robert" To: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 1:16 PM Subject: Re: Huw rejoins > > > >at the risk of irking the board, in the '80s my interest in HW seriously > >dwindled when Huw took over lead guitar....and IMO the trio lineup w/mr > brock > >back on lead was second only to the 'space ritual/lemmy' era. > > > >aw, what the hell, i 'irk the board' alla time... > > > >"<>" > > > > Couldn't agree more, with the possible exception of Motorway City, > everything else Huw did was bollocks, especially the Chronicles stuff > ...dull, dull, dull...he made all the tracks he played on sound > the same!!!! > > In my opinion anyway. > > bye - Rob From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Aug 6 08:52:21 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:52:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: Keith Moon confirmation/Bedouin question Message-ID: I know the Moon topic is a little past its expiration date, but as I was playing "Rolling Stones Rock 'n' Roll Circus" last night (on which The Who performs) I saw a pic in the booklet of Moon sitting behind a kit with two bass drums. Yet more proof in the Great BOC-L Double Bass Debate. We can all rest easy now. ;-) Onto Bedouin, does anyone know why they changed the title of their new album from "As Above, So Below" to "Be Fair or Beware"? The new title's a little dorky, don't you think? Of course I'll still buy it though--the Vision Quest mp3 blew me away, and it got "Vision quest, your acid test" stuck in my head for quite a while. Damn, there it is again.... Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio There is no Dana, only Zuul http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 6 09:07:45 2001 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 14:07:45 +0100 Subject: Huw rejoins Message-ID: Who played on Levitation (and on the bootleg Utopia 1984)? It's my 2nd fave besides Space Ritual. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuckey, Robert" > Couldn't agree more, with the possible exception of Motorway City, > everything else Huw did was bollocks From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Aug 6 09:01:53 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 14:01:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: Keith Moon confirmation/Bedouin question Message-ID: Just to kill this off.... keith moon pretty much always had a double bass drum kit. His clear kit ( as mentioned before ) has been spotted live and on video recordings. Plus his famous Pictures of Lilly drum kit from the 60's ( naked ladies all over the kit) was a double bass drum kit). Also if you have the isle of white video, Woodstock video etc you will see his Tommy double bass drum kit. not that I'm a sad keith moon fan or anything regards iain Brian Halligan wrote: > I know the Moon topic is a little past its expiration date, but as I was > playing "Rolling Stones Rock 'n' Roll Circus" last night (on which The Who > performs) I saw a pic in the booklet of Moon sitting behind a kit with two > bass drums. Yet more proof in the Great BOC-L Double Bass Debate. We can all > rest easy now. ;-) > > Onto Bedouin, does anyone know why they changed the title of their new album > from "As Above, So Below" to "Be Fair or Beware"? The new title's a little > dorky, don't you think? Of course I'll still buy it though--the Vision Quest > mp3 blew me away, and it got "Vision quest, your acid test" stuck in my head > for quite a while. Damn, there it is again.... > > Brian > > -- > Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower > MP3 Radio > There is no Dana, only Zuul > http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From laura.waesche at CEXP.COM Mon Aug 6 09:03:15 2001 From: laura.waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:03:15 -0500 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: In the IRC chat at the Mission Control site Simon did say he had permantly rejoined the band. The same chat where Alan announced the same thing. >>> BL Young 08/05/01 01:38PM >>> So who are the eight official members? In order of their current longevity, I get only these 7: Dave B. Richard C. Ron T. Jerry R. Keith K. Alan D. Huw L-L. Or did Simon rejoin? Possibly Harvey? Thanks, Bryan From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 6 09:11:05 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 22:41:05 +0930 Subject: Huw rejoins Message-ID: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuckey, Robert" > > Couldn't agree more, with the possible exception of Motorway City, > > everything else Huw did was bollocks Say what???!???!! you gots to be tone deaf brutha with big lumps of wax to boot sorry what else can I imagine??? From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Aug 6 09:18:15 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 21:18:15 +0800 Subject: Huw rejoins Message-ID: I happen to like Dragons and Fables, Sleep of A Thousand Tears and Sword of the East. Good guitar stuff. And the album "This Is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic" is great. A lot of fans discovered Hawkwind during Huw's time with them in the eighties, with Levitation (the album) being their initiation. Anyway, whose to say that Huw's involvement with them will be similar to the 80's. Hawkwind have this knack of moving musically forward. Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuckey, Robert" To: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Huw rejoins > > > >at the risk of irking the board, in the '80s my interest in HW seriously > >dwindled when Huw took over lead guitar....and IMO the trio lineup w/mr > brock > >back on lead was second only to the 'space ritual/lemmy' era. > > > >aw, what the hell, i 'irk the board' alla time... > > > >"<>" > > > > Couldn't agree more, with the possible exception of Motorway City, > everything else Huw did was bollocks, especially the Chronicles stuff > ...dull, dull, dull...he made all the tracks he played on sound > the same!!!! > > In my opinion anyway. > > bye - Rob > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Aug 6 09:14:46 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:14:46 EDT Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me Message-ID: In a message dated 8/6/01 7:24:10 AM, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: << But he wasn't with Skynyrd at the time, was he? >> ===== artemis pyle? sorry, did i get the name right? gone at 48 was in the Boston Globe last week "<>" From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Aug 6 09:23:23 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 21:23:23 +0800 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: What about the sax player? Is he still on the scene? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Waesche" To: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 9:03 PM Subject: Re: HW: Huw Rejoins > In the IRC chat at the Mission Control site Simon did say he had permantly rejoined the band. The same chat where Alan announced the same thing. > > >>> BL Young 08/05/01 01:38PM >>> > So who are the eight official members? > In order of their current longevity, I get only these 7: > > Dave B. > Richard C. > Ron T. > Jerry R. > Keith K. > Alan D. > Huw L-L. > > Or did Simon rejoin? Possibly Harvey? > > Thanks, > > Bryan > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 6 09:20:57 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 22:50:57 +0930 Subject: Huw rejoins Message-ID: well said Bill & I agree with you 100% there!!! MwB > I happen to like Dragons and Fables, Sleep of A Thousand Tears and Sword of > the East. Good guitar stuff. And the album "This Is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic" > is great. > A lot of fans discovered Hawkwind during Huw's time with them in the > eighties, with Levitation (the album) being their initiation. > Anyway, whose to say that Huw's involvement with them will be similar to the > 80's. Hawkwind have this knack of moving musically forward. > > Cheers > Bill From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 6 09:21:30 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:21:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: Al on double bass In-Reply-To: <3B6E4576.8466.8D805@localhost> Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: => On 6 Aug 2001, at 1:30, Brad Dahl wrote: => => > >>>(how about that live Dizbusters on the T&M remaster?) but using a => > >>>double => > footed approach to fills can be quite awesome. => > => I'm not too up on the tech side of drumming, but I could swear the => last time I saw tBS, Al was using a double pedal on one bass drum. => Is this possible? Is this done so that you can get a double sound Matt Abts of Gov't Mule uses a Gibraltar double pedal on one bass drum, but you knew that, right Theo? Just got back from catching three Allman Brothers Band/Phil & Friends shows. I hope the rest of the venues they're playing have their fire insurance paid up, because the boys are burning up the stage!... BTW, welcome back Guido!! (I drove past your old stomping ground on the way to the Virginia Beach show.:) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From laura.waesche at CEXP.COM Mon Aug 6 09:21:08 2001 From: laura.waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:21:08 -0500 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: He wasn't one of the ones being interviewed but that's not saying a whole lot since there were people in and out of there during the whole thing. >>> Bill & Cynthia 08/06/01 08:23AM >>> What about the sax player? Is he still on the scene? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Waesche" To: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 9:03 PM Subject: Re: HW: Huw Rejoins > In the IRC chat at the Mission Control site Simon did say he had permantly rejoined the band. The same chat where Alan announced the same thing. > > >>> BL Young 08/05/01 01:38PM >>> > So who are the eight official members? > In order of their current longevity, I get only these 7: > > Dave B. > Richard C. > Ron T. > Jerry R. > Keith K. > Alan D. > Huw L-L. > > Or did Simon rejoin? Possibly Harvey? > > Thanks, > > Bryan > From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Aug 6 09:19:42 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 14:19:42 +0100 Subject: Huw rejoins In-Reply-To: <004e01c11e7a$40e0c400$11713bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Bill & Cynthia wrote: > I happen to like Dragons and Fables, Sleep of A Thousand Tears and Sword of > the East. Good guitar stuff. And the album "This Is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic" > is great. > A lot of fans discovered Hawkwind during Huw's time with them in the > eighties, with Levitation (the album) being their initiation. It was the first HW vinyl I bought and I love it. Would still be better with that nice Mr. House on, of course :) > Anyway, whose to say that Huw's involvement with them will be similar to the > 80's. Hawkwind have this knack of moving musically forward. Exactly. And it's about time something were done. I mean, Spacebrock? Well, it'd be alright if it were totally reworked so that it sounded entirely different. IMHO, naturally - YMMV. But last time I saw Huw he was captivating, brilliant. I want more of that. Who wouldn't? Kirsten -- Kirsten Procter ghoti NP: Hawkwind - Levitation From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 6 09:36:16 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:36:16 -0400 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, mike c wrote: => There is- however distant, a connection..... => Venom is included on the Canadian Griffin CD label radio promo sampler, => along with HW, M. Moorcock, Justin Hayward, Rick Wakeman, and Dana => Gillespie....(Called Griffin Music Sampler Vol.1, Summer 1995)(on Sony => Import label) I also have another connection. Years ago, my brother palmed off on me a cheap double CD compilation put out on the DUET label, but in reality another Castle-Communications-regurgitate-their-back-catalogue affair. The compilation is called _Metal Mania_ and features tracks by Black Sabbath, Angelwitch, Motorhead, Girlschool, Uriah Heep, Hawkwind, Magnum, Venom, and UFO. Hawkwind have one track on the first CD ("Master of the Universe") and one on the second ("Levitation"). Venom get four tracks---two per CD---including the (in?)famous "Manitou" that everyone knows and loves... :-) Gotta love those Geordie lads. ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 6 09:36:27 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:36:27 EDT Subject: BOC: Al on double bass In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 6 Aug 2001, at 9:21, Paul Mather wrote: > > Matt Abts of Gov't Mule uses a Gibraltar double pedal on one bass > drum, but you knew that, right Theo? No I didn't, but there has to be some serious voodoo going on when MA is pounding... > > Just got back from catching three Allman Brothers Band/Phil & Friends > shows. I hope the rest of the venues they're playing have their fire > insurance paid up, because the boys are burning up the stage!... > Whoa, too much! Who's on guit. for ABB these days, Warren and Derek? theo From laura.waesche at CEXP.COM Mon Aug 6 09:35:30 2001 From: laura.waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:35:30 -0500 Subject: Huw rejoins Message-ID: I agree totally! I am looking forward to seeing what this lineup will create! >>> Kirsten Procter 08/06/01 08:19AM >>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Bill & Cynthia wrote: > I happen to like Dragons and Fables, Sleep of A Thousand Tears and Sword of > the East. Good guitar stuff. And the album "This Is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic" > is great. > A lot of fans discovered Hawkwind during Huw's time with them in the > eighties, with Levitation (the album) being their initiation. It was the first HW vinyl I bought and I love it. Would still be better with that nice Mr. House on, of course :) > Anyway, whose to say that Huw's involvement with them will be similar to the > 80's. Hawkwind have this knack of moving musically forward. Exactly. And it's about time something were done. I mean, Spacebrock? Well, it'd be alright if it were totally reworked so that it sounded entirely different. IMHO, naturally - YMMV. But last time I saw Huw he was captivating, brilliant. I want more of that. Who wouldn't? Kirsten -- Kirsten Procter ghoti NP: Hawkwind - Levitation From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 6 09:39:35 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:39:35 EDT Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me In-Reply-To: <111.37201ab.289ff246@aol.com> Message-ID: On 6 Aug 2001, at 9:14, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 8/6/01 7:24:10 AM, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: > > << But he wasn't with > Skynyrd at the time, was he? > >> > ===== > artemis pyle? > sorry, did i get the name right? > > gone at 48 > > was in the Boston Globe last week Artemis did play with LS, though not sure who the drummer's been last few years. I was talking about the bassist, Leon Wilkeson, who died last week, but I don't think he'd been in LS lately either. Haven't been up on LS since Ed King left, but I think the only long- term members from the old days are Gary and Billy. Anyone know fer sure? theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Aug 6 10:00:51 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:00:51 -0400 Subject: OFF: Keith Moon confirmation In-Reply-To: <3B6E9541.BC276615@aol.com> Message-ID: Iain wrote: > keith moon pretty much always had a double bass drum kit. Thanks for the "sad Keith Moon fan" insider info. A sad BOC/HW fan, Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio A veritable "House of Wax" http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html > not that I'm a sad keith moon fan or anything > regards > iain From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 6 10:03:04 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:03:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: Allman Brothers Band In-Reply-To: <3B6E651A.15290.847806@localhost> Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: => > Just got back from catching three Allman Brothers Band/Phil & Friends => > shows. I hope the rest of the venues they're playing have their fire => > insurance paid up, because the boys are burning up the stage!... => > => Whoa, too much! Who's on guit. for ABB these days, Warren and => Derek? Yes, the very same. The Brothers have never sounded better! The extra possibilities opened up by having two lead slide players just have to be heard. They rotate the lead slide parts on a show-by-show basis, and I'm sure that keeps both Warren and Derek on their toes. I heard a breathtaking "Soulshine" where the lead trading was so frequent and seamless in the solo that you couldn't pick it out except to watch it happen on the stage. Truly magical! Jimmy Herring also guested on an insane "Southbound" in Raleigh which featured four (count 'em!) percussionists. Derek smoked the solo on "'Liz Reed" in Charlotte. He had the crowd as fired up as I've seen them. Then poor Gregg had to follow it on the B3. I wouldn't have liked to have been in his shoes, let me tell you. But, Warren brought everything back when he took his solo after Gregg. Charlotte was the best of the three nights, with Raleigh running a fairly close second. Catch this band if they come your way. They really are on fire. (Phil and Friends are great, too.) BTW, Warren really must be the hardest working man in showbusiness now, playing a full set with the Allmans *and* a full set with Phil and Friends the same night. Does he ever rest????? Oh, and Theo, look for the new Gov't Mule album to appear, too. Part 1 is due out in October now. It features a guest list that reads like a Who's Who of the music business. Gov't Mule must have the hardest working management in showbusiness to pull off a logistical nightmare like that! Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 6 10:14:57 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:14:57 EDT Subject: OFF: Allman Brothers Band In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 6 Aug 2001, at 10:03, Paul Mather wrote: [snipped great review] Thanks for posting! Doesn't look like they'll get close enough for me to catch a show... > Oh, and Theo, look for the new Gov't Mule album to appear, too. Part > 1 is due out in October now. It features a guest list that reads like > a Who's Who of the music business. Gov't Mule must have the hardest > working management in showbusiness to pull off a logistical nightmare > like that! > What's the future hold for GM? Do they intend to ever replace AW and hit the road again? theo From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 6 10:33:31 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:33:31 -0400 Subject: OFF: Allman Brothers Band In-Reply-To: <3B6E6E20.7804.A7B71E@localhost> Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: => What's the future hold for GM? Do they intend to ever replace AW => and hit the road again? They are doing another tour this Fall, to support the new album. Mr. Chuck Leavell will once again be guesting on the keyboards, and Dave Schools and Oteil Burbridge will be sharing the duties on bass[*] (Dave some gigs, Oteil the others). Look at http://www.mule.net/tourdates/ for the dates, but, from memory, it runs Sept-Oct at least. I caught them this Spring tour, and I can say it's a show well worth turning out for. Cheers, Paul. [*] Although Les Claypool is slated to play bass on at least one show. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Aug 6 10:45:11 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:45:11 EDT Subject: OFF: Leon Wilkeson "free grass and high birds forever" Message-ID: In a message dated 8/6/01 9:40:20 AM, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: << I was talking about the bassist, Leon Wilkeson, who died last week, but I don't think he'd been in LS lately either. >> ======== ....and clearly i got the name wrong but that's of whom i spoke. "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Aug 6 11:01:17 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:01:17 EDT Subject: Huw rejoins Message-ID: In a message dated 8/6/01 9:09:12 AM, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: << Say what???!???!! you gots to be tone deaf brutha with big lumps of wax to boot sorry what else can I imagine??? >> ========= what else can you imagine? imagine you're on my "auto-delete". eom "<>" From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 6 13:26:45 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:26:45 -0600 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me In-Reply-To: <111.37201ab.289ff246@aol.com> Message-ID: "<>": (on Leon Wilkeson) "artemis pyle?" (PERFECT) Dear "<>", I SWEAR, I have called him that too- his name slips away from my memory, as I was never a "Skynyrd" collecter, and what I do have was given to me... LOL! (I swear!! no lie!)(weird) "Workin for the MCA stuck on me" (however) m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 6 13:34:36 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:34:36 -0600 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me Message-ID: "<>": (on Leon Wilkeson) "artemis pyle?" Oh yeah he IS a a member (or was)(drummer) that name that name just doesn't call Freak Bro's comics to mind..... m From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 6 12:34:06 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 12:34:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, mike c wrote: => "<>": (on Leon Wilkeson) => => "artemis pyle?" (PERFECT) I find the easiest way to keep them straight is to remember that Leon played bass and Artimus played drums. >;-) Last time I heard Artimus was his guest spot on the "One For Woody" benefit show. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Mon Aug 6 12:41:41 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 12:41:41 -0400 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Ditto! I couldn't agree more. Of course, it was Mr. Tom who really turned me onto HW; and it was specifically Levitation that put me over the edge. Thanks Tom!!! Dr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Tom Clark [SMTP:tclark at PETRONET.NET] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 8:46 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Huw Rejoins Hmmmm...yup, I always thought that during the Hawkwind incarnation that included Huw's contributions on especially the Levitation album and even Choose your Masks , both guitarists pretty well complemented one other, Though Huw's lead was in the forefront, I thought in was pretty honorable that Dave stepped back, and let him Huw go with it. Huw's lead was pretty fluid, and I can't happen to appreciate the way it all fit together as a whole. Great chemistry! Dave's lead playing is all right, and it has always fit the song (Damnation Alley, and any other he has played lead on), as has Huw's (Motorway City!) though I agree thatHuw is definitely more of a lead player that Dave, and it that it all still makes it Hawkwind. I don't think that it is a matter of who is in the forefront, but who can contribute to what puts the tune together, whatever instrument or what role the musician has, and what sounds can be put together that makes the experience. That is the spirit of Hawkwind, IMO, and what makes them a great band. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 6 13:52:48 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:52:48 -0600 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me In-Reply-To: Message-ID: rcmayo: <<- not sure; apology accepted 'just in case.'>> there was one vivid detail to whom I am thinking: They had a role in at least one of the Toxic Avenger movies.....(and already had their Hawkwind paraphenalia sorted out locally, but wanted to monitor my knowledge, in case....)(that was, of course, prior to shooting myself down "in the night") the apology stands (firm) , and this thread is a little amusing anyway...)(imho) m From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Mon Aug 6 12:56:22 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:56:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Oh I think Huw is a more than capable guitarist. I think one of my favorite guitar solos of all time, by anyone, is on "Lost Chronicles" from Xenon Codex. I too was disappointed that Hawkwind were sounding somewhat metal for a portion of the 80's, but I forgive them their stylistic faults, which weren't nearly as bad as most bands in that era. Huw's recent studio output and live performances have in fact been stellar... have no doubt that he's just as amazing a player as he's always been. I'm not sure what was going on at Brixton... yes, that performance was definitely way below par.... but I have complete faith in Huw. I loved a lot of his guitar stuff on HW albums. Some of my favorite Huw moments: "Lost Chronicles," that live Samurai rendition of "Silver Machine," the live Samurai rendition of "Who's Gonna Win The War?," "The Island," the solo in "Arrival in Utopia," that somewhat ambient lead work in the live version of "Shade Gate" from Live Chronicles. In fact there aren't very many bad Huw moments... John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Concerned of Bristol here, > > last couple of times I've seen Huw he's been awful. The albums where he was under > control "live 79, levitation and Sonic attack" are 20 years old now..After those > albums he tuned the band into some kind of heavy metal parody > > Can he still play in tune ? has anyone seen any of his solo concerts or with his > band ? what did it sound like ? > > Based on what I heard at Brixton and Croydon ( on video ) he has not left me with > any confidence that he can play like he used to. Looking forward to good reports > from the Canterbury gig so that these words will return to haunt me for eternity, > And that what i've heard so far has just been a blip. > > main thing is I hope is that uncle Nik doesn't come back into the fold !! > > Peace > > iain From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 6 14:46:58 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 12:46:58 -0600 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Paul: <<"I also have another connection. Years ago, my brother palmed off on me a cheap double CD compilation put out on the DUET label, but in reality another Castle-Communications-">> OK- one more- I think there are like 123,993,736,000.000.000 (is this a real number?, please pretend if I got it wrong) Castle comps, and such.....I think I even have the one you mention, in fact, I'm sure I do (by default, like yourself) I often wonder if ANYONE goes far enough to collect them all.... occasionally something interesting pops up Hawkwind wise, such as one that I have that has the Glastonbruy SM in pure clean form.......(it was with a rock magazine originally however, so NOT the average Castle upheaval) I often get jealous thinking what "might" be out there, and if people even know what they got??? and Venom appears often.... I just can't get over the mood switch from Justin Hayward to Venom.... if it'd been the Moodies he might have won..... m PS- Now if they would just sneak the Brian Matthews BBC 2 tracks onto something..... and tell me m From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Aug 6 14:01:07 2001 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:01:07 +0100 Subject: Ultima Thule *IS* Wind of Change In-Reply-To: <200108011101.MAA28976@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Replying to this somewhat belatedly, I'll have to give it another listen. I didn't recall the similarity last time and I think the riff to Ultima Thule is used towards the end of the main track on the TD album Alpha Centauri. Certainly, I remember thinking "Oh, is that it?" after reading about UT for so long but this assumes my recording is correct (Electronic Orgy CDs). Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: 01 August 2001 12:02 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Ultima Thule *IS* Wind of Change > > > I heard Tangerine Dream's Ultima Thule single for the first time last > night. Unless someone has slipped a demo copy of Wind of Change onto my > disc then Hawkwind practically lifted Wind of Change straight from it. > It was quite a surprise! > > FoFP From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Aug 6 14:07:08 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:07:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: Keith Moon confirmation/Bedouin question Message-ID: The answer is to do with Alan's interest in Islam. > Onto Bedouin, does anyone know why they changed the title of their new album > from "As Above, So Below" to "Be Fair or Beware"? The new title's a little > dorky, don't you think? Of course I'll still buy it though--the Vision Quest > mp3 blew me away, and it got "Vision quest, your acid test" stuck in my head > for quite a while. Damn, there it is again.... > > Brian From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Aug 5 19:17:22 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 00:17:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: I think the problem with some of the eighties stuff was the lack of keys/synth player, rather than the presence of Huw. Dave -----Original Message----- From: DASLUD at AOL.COM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 04 August 2001 17:17 Subject: Re: HW: Huw Rejoins >In a message dated 8/4/01 11:58:48 AM, ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > ><< Following on from the note on Mission Control that Huw has officially >rejoined the band, how will this work with two lead guitarists..will Jerry be >playing Dave's role with Dave on keyboards? Any thoughts anybody? > > >> > >at the risk of irking the board, in the '80s my interest in HW seriously >dwindled when Huw took over lead guitar....and IMO the trio lineup w/mr brock >back on lead was second only to the 'space ritual/lemmy' era. > >aw, what the hell, i 'irk the board' alla time... > >"<>" > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Aug 5 18:41:24 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:41:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Uncle Tim? Uncle Tim! Blimey you don't mean .....Hi T Tim Blake. Will you puh..leeze get this line-up in the studio now! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 05 August 2001 20:10 Subject: Re: HW: Huw Rejoins >Don't forget Uncle Tim. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: BL Young >To: >Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 7:38 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Huw Rejoins > > >> So who are the eight official members? >> In order of their current longevity, I get only these 7: >> >> Dave B. >> Richard C. >> Ron T. >> Jerry R. >> Keith K. >> Alan D. >> Huw L-L. >> >> Or did Simon rejoin? Possibly Harvey? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bryan > From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Aug 6 19:09:14 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:09:14 -0400 Subject: Huw rejoins Message-ID: LEMMY...did someone say lemmy??? pounding base lines...oh yeah tim Stuckey, Robert wrote: > > > > >at the risk of irking the board, in the '80s my interest in HW seriously > >dwindled when Huw took over lead guitar....and IMO the trio lineup w/mr > brock > >back on lead was second only to the 'space ritual/lemmy' era. > > > >aw, what the hell, i 'irk the board' alla time... > > > >"<>" > > > > Couldn't agree more, with the possible exception of Motorway City, > everything else Huw did was bollocks, especially the Chronicles stuff > ...dull, dull, dull...he made all the tracks he played on sound > the same!!!! > > In my opinion anyway. > > bye - Rob From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Aug 6 19:40:12 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:40:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me Message-ID: no,artemus is still alive,he was the drummer...met him a coupla years ago, really nice guy,but won't be in skynyrd because he believes it's not skynyrd without ronnie v.z. ...has a great cooking band of his own,though,A.P.B. tim DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > > In a message dated 8/6/01 7:24:10 AM, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: > > << But he wasn't with > Skynyrd at the time, was he? > >> > ===== > artemis pyle? > sorry, did i get the name right? > > gone at 48 > > was in the Boston Globe last week > > "<>" From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Mon Aug 6 19:43:04 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 00:43:04 +0100 Subject: OFF/HW: double bass...who's on first? what's on 2nd? In-Reply-To: <46.189b31b7.289df7a3@aol.com> Message-ID: At 02:13 05/08/01, "<>" wrote: > >to _see_ these 2 bass drums doesnt assure that 2 bass drums were axually > >being _played_. > >See above... but I've seen enough drummers that wasted too much time >pratting about with a load of unnecessary kit instead of actually playing >to have some sympathy with that comment!!! > >> > >i...um....dont understand. >are you unsympathetically in agreement? >or... (Belatedly) Summink like dat... I have a bit of a "less is more" attitude after years of seeing/hearing many wonderful (mostly "jazz") drummers really doing the biz with minimal kits.... ChrisW From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Aug 6 19:45:23 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:45:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me Message-ID: and they're also on the comp `metal masters' also by castle...along with hawkwind,girlschool,cronos,motorhead and (i love this one!) dumpy's rusty nuts!! ..etc tim Paul Mather wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, mike c wrote: > > => There is- however distant, a connection..... > => Venom is included on the Canadian Griffin CD label radio promo sampler, > => along with HW, M. Moorcock, Justin Hayward, Rick Wakeman, and Dana > => Gillespie....(Called Griffin Music Sampler Vol.1, Summer 1995)(on Sony > => Import label) > > I also have another connection. Years ago, my brother palmed off on me > a cheap double CD compilation put out on the DUET label, but in reality > another Castle-Communications-regurgitate-their-back-catalogue affair. > The compilation is called _Metal Mania_ and features tracks by Black > Sabbath, Angelwitch, Motorhead, Girlschool, Uriah Heep, Hawkwind, > Magnum, Venom, and UFO. Hawkwind have one track on the first CD > ("Master of the Universe") and one on the second ("Levitation"). Venom > get four tracks---two per CD---including the (in?)famous "Manitou" that > everyone knows and loves... :-) > > Gotta love those Geordie lads. ;-) > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Mon Aug 6 20:00:22 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 20:00:22 EDT Subject: OFF: CD Services catalog Message-ID: Bill Stewart 106 Kraft Av Bronxville NY 10708 USA From tclark at PETRONET.NET Mon Aug 6 20:00:25 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:00:25 -0500 Subject: OFF/HW: double bass...who's on first? what's on 2nd? Message-ID: John Bonham never needed one....then again, no-one has come close to his power, and some drummers need two bass drums to even attempt it! Chris Warburton wrote: > At 02:13 05/08/01, "<>" wrote: > > >to _see_ these 2 bass drums doesnt assure that 2 bass drums were axually > > >being _played_. > > > >See above... but I've seen enough drummers that wasted too much time > >pratting about with a load of unnecessary kit instead of actually playing > >to have some sympathy with that comment!!! > > >> > > > >i...um....dont understand. > >are you unsympathetically in agreement? > >or... > > (Belatedly) Summink like dat... I have a bit of a "less is more" attitude > after years of seeing/hearing many wonderful (mostly "jazz") drummers > really doing the biz with minimal kits.... > > ChrisW From tclark at PETRONET.NET Mon Aug 6 20:01:42 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:01:42 -0500 Subject: OFF/HW: double bass...who's on first? what's on 2nd? Message-ID: I meant John Bonham never needed two bass drums, of course!... Chris Warburton wrote: > At 02:13 05/08/01, "<>" wrote: > > >to _see_ these 2 bass drums doesnt assure that 2 bass drums were axually > > >being _played_. > > > >See above... but I've seen enough drummers that wasted too much time > >pratting about with a load of unnecessary kit instead of actually playing > >to have some sympathy with that comment!!! > > >> > > > >i...um....dont understand. > >are you unsympathetically in agreement? > >or... > > (Belatedly) Summink like dat... I have a bit of a "less is more" attitude > after years of seeing/hearing many wonderful (mostly "jazz") drummers > really doing the biz with minimal kits.... > > ChrisW From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Aug 6 20:21:02 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 20:21:02 -0400 Subject: HW: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 00:17:22 +0100, david hall wrote: >I think the problem with some of the eighties stuff was the lack of >keys/synth player, rather than the presence of Huw. I would say that the synergism of these two factors needs to be taken into account ... allow me to elaborate, as I'm one of those people who thinks more highly of 70s & 90s HW than the 80s. This is a bit of an oversimplification, but: strong rhythm guitar = Huw good little or no rhythm guitar = Huw a total mess It's appropriate that most people have cited "Motorway City" as one of Huw's best leads (I'd certainly list it as one of the few of his that I think are excellent), as the song is heavily driven by the rhythm guitar. But when there's nothing for him to follow, his playing devolves into what I hear as a bunch of chromatic noodling (with occasional noodling on harmonics - c.f. "Solitary Mind Games"). At least Nik's chromatic noodling is reminiscent of greats like Charlie Parker and Ornette Coleman ... Having listened to several concerts from 82/83 recently, I've heard the band suffer from lack of rhythmic content when either Dave or Harvey are playing synth instead of guitar/bass (the problem with lack of dedicated synth player). And for a band like Hawkwind, for whom rhythm has been one of the most important components of the music (Lemmy & Simon, Alan & Richard ... and much of the band's synth usage over the years has been to flow with the rhythmic structure of the song), that is very much NOT a good thing. This wasn't as big a deal with the 90s trio lineup since A) it featured a FAR superior drummer (and bassist), and B) "artificial" rhythm technology (drum machines, trigger->MIDI devices, etc.) had come a loooooong way since the early 80s. Fortunately, Jerry appears to be as gifted a rhythm guitarist as capt. Brock, so in the current lineup, Huw should have the rhythmic support he needs to play well, even when Dave's playing keys/synth (but I also think that Jerry's a far better lead guitarist than Huw, at least FOR HAWKWIND - Huw would still unquestionably be the better lead guitarist for Leo Sayer or Widowmaker). Just my opinions, of course ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 6 21:48:25 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:48:25 -0600 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "no,artemus is still alive,he was the drummer...met him a coupla years ago, really nice guy,but won't be in skynyrd because he believes it's not skynyrd without ronnie v.z. ...has a great cooking band of his own,though,A.P.B. tim" Quite admirable, he is also the one who can speak all his words without any stutter, very intelligently, and saved a couple of them (living Skynyrd members) in the plane crash apparently,,, cool dude I regret making fun of his name, It DOES call Freak Bro's (comics) to mind....(the Standard!! haha)..I must have been thinking 'Gomer', whilst not fully awake Great guy, Heroic!!! deserves a new medal!!! Now if I could get someone to "teach" me about Ed King.....who he was/is.....why he left, what's the deal, etc.....as he appeared to be a founding member....wasn't he??? what happened? where did he go? apologies ignorance on this. mike c From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Aug 6 21:15:07 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 21:15:07 -0400 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:48:25 -0600, mike c wrote: >Now if I could get someone to "teach" me about Ed King.....who he >was/is.....why he left, what's the deal, etc.....as he appeared to be a >founding member....wasn't he??? what happened? where did he go? All I know is that he was in the Strawberry Alarm Clock (yes, "Incense and Peppermints" and 'Beyond the Valley of the Dolls') before Skynyrd ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 7 02:06:14 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 00:06:14 -0600 Subject: OFF: Venomwind? oh spare me spare me In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "and they're also on the comp `metal masters' also by castle...along with hawkwind,girlschool,cronos,motorhead and (i love this one!) dumpy's rusty nuts!! ..etc" tim well I'll be damned, "boxhill or bust", and "hot lover"....why do I always notice these things after the beer store is closed......with 4 discs.... I see it's got Groundhogs too m From dahl at AROS.NET Tue Aug 7 01:34:37 2001 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 23:34:37 -0600 Subject: BOC: Re: BOC: Al on double bass Message-ID: This has probably already been answered, but what the hey! >>>I'm not too up on the tech side of drumming, but I could swear the last time I saw tBS, Al was using a double pedal on one bass drum. Is this possible? Yes it is possible, and many drummers use the double pedal. It save a lot of hassel not having to haul around 2 bass drums. >>>Also, when drummers use 2 bass drums, are they tuned differently? I think I've seen drummers with a double bass setup use 2 different drums. Possible? I've played with guys who go to great extremes to get both drums tuned the same (in which case it would make more sense to use a double pedal, but not as cool looking as 2 bass drums). I've also played with guys who like to have 2 different tones and even some that use 2 different sizes of bass drums. Brad From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Tue Aug 7 02:51:51 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:51:51 +0200 Subject: OFF:Space Rock Copenhagen Message-ID: Hej, Just an update and I need some feedback as well. There seems to be a lot of people that want to make this happen and I have enlisted several bands to come play but there are many things that have to be worked out, such as date (likely in the winter, the plus is that air fares are cheap, minus, traveling conditions are uncertain), venue and one day or two day event. What I would like to know is if people would prefer a long one day event (8 hours) or a two day event that starts at like 8 in the evening on a friday and saturday. I really want to give each band 75 minutes to play. Here is what we are looking at: Dark Sun (Finland) Darxtar (Sweden) Mantric Muse (Denmark) Sloterdyk (US) Psuedo Sun (Sweden) Spacious Mind (sweden) This would be a once in a life time chance for a lot of foreign people to come see these bands if we can pull this event off, so we will likely try to organize some sort of package for people, a set price which would include the ticket and two nights accomidation at a cheap hotel. We need at least 200 paying people for something like this to happen. Anyway, if people could respond to me in private at: spacerockDK at hotmail.com, then I can get some feedback. It would be such a great time if we could gather the space rock community here in Denmark for a nice weekend. We have some good opportunities to advertise if we plan this soon, as Ozric Tentacles, Jethro Tull, and GONG are coming here in the next 3 months. Thanks in advance for your help. scott R. Scott Heller PhD Dept. of Developmental Biology Hagedorn Research Institute Niels Steensensvej 6 DK-2820 Gentofte Denmark Phone (45) 44 43 91 37 Fax (45) 44 43 80 00 Email: shll at hagedorn.dk shll at novonordisk.com http://www.hagedorn.dk/staff/dep474/474.htm From robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK Tue Aug 7 05:46:00 2001 From: robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK (Stuckey, Robert) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:46:00 +0100 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: From: Chris Allen > >Who played on Levitation (and on the bootleg Utopia 1984)? It's my 2nd fave >besides Space Ritual. > Levitation is my favourite ever Hawkwind song, but it was not made by Huw's guitar. Levitation could have a cover version made by Atomic Kitten and it would still be fantastic!!! I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! bye - Rob From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 7 07:40:37 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 07:40:37 EDT Subject: OFF: Skynyrd/Ed King In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 6 Aug 2001, at 19:48, mike c wrote: > "no,artemus is still alive,he was the drummer...met him a coupla years > ago, really nice guy,but won't be in skynyrd because he believes it's > not skynyrd without ronnie v.z. ...has a great cooking band of his > own,though,A.P.B. tim" > > > Quite admirable, he is also the one who can speak all his words > without > any stutter, very intelligently, and saved a couple of them (living > Skynyrd members) in the plane crash apparently,,, > Same reason I tuned out of LS after Ed King left. All the really talented guys were gone, and now, though they've got 2 smokin' replacement gtrsts, it's more like a LS tribute band. I saw them a couple times in the 90s and they were pretty good indeed, but Ed was still in the band, as was Leon, Billy and Gary--enough to comprise a decent aproximation of the original group. Johnny VZ is an okay stand-in for his bro... > > Now if I could get someone to "teach" me about Ed King.....who he > was/is.....why he left, what's the deal, etc.....as he appeared to be > a founding member....wasn't he??? what happened? where did he go? > Ed actually played bass on the first LS album--only played gtr on one song--Mississippi Kid, I think. Then Leon rejoined the group and Ed moved to gtr, his 'real' instrument. He wasn't technically a founding member of LS--he's a Yankee actually, whose first band was--get this--Strawberry Alarm Clock. He was based in the South at the time though, and hooked up with the rest of the group, who were all high school buddies, and a few years younger than Ed. Ed wrote all the best LS stuff: Sat. Night Spec., Workin' for MCA, Sweet Home Ala. He was certainly the most distinctive gtrst, IMO, probably 'cause he played a Strat whlst all the other LS gtrsts played Gibsons. He left the group after the 3rd record--sick of the road grind and RVZ's excesses. After the crash the band stayed out of action until a 'tribute' tour in the 80s. At that point Ed rejoined the band, thinking it was just a one-off thing. Public reaction was favorable, so the band got back together permanently. Ed stayed in the group, and made 2 or 3 records with them--LS 1991 and The Last Rebel. Maybe one more, can't remember. Anyway, he developed congestive heart disease, and could no longer tour, so he's been retired for the last few years. After EK left, LS added Rickie Medlocke [Blackfoot] and Hughie Thomasson [Outlaws] on guitar, and have made a few albums with that lineup. Haven't heard any of that stuff, but gtr-wise should be pretty good. I always considered EK's gtr playing the heart and soul of LS [apologies to GR fans!] so I quit listening to them after he left... theo From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Aug 7 08:33:39 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:33:39 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 8/4-01 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck NOTE: I also recommend you stay tuned for Mizzen's program "Audio Alchemy", which airs every Saturday evening after mine, from 8-11pm PST...if you dare... 8/4 1.F/i-- "Doktors for Bob" (Helioscopium; Ceres Records) 2.Mushroom-- "On the Corner Pt. 2" (Alive and In Full Bloom; Inbetween Records) 3.Tidal Flood-- "Tidal Mew" (7Tide demo) 4.Avey Tare and Panda Bear-- "Bat You'll Fly" (Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished; Animal Records) 5.JFK Jr. Royal Airforce-- "Open Up the Temples of Space" (ST'd; Slutfish Records) 6.Vas Deferens Organization-- "Cyclone" (Sweat Your Cheeses...; Charnel Records) 7.Thumbtack Smoothie-- "Kailimbardo State" (ElectricTableKitchenLand; Manic Obsessive Records) 8.Residents-- "Atomic Shopping Carts" (Whatever Happened to Vileness Fats?; ESD Records) 9.Attention Deficit-- "American Jingo" (The Idiot King; Magna Carta Records) 10.Primus-- title-track (Pork Soda; Interscope Records) 11.Nik Turner w/Farflung-- "Mother Orbis" (Transglobal Friends/Relations; Transparancy Records) 12.Alchemysts and Simeon-- "Lost Beat Magazine" (ST'd; Rubric Records) 13.Cul de Sac-- "K" (Crashes to Light Minutes Before it's Fall; Thirsty Ear Records) 14.Afresco Mantis-- "The Yarn of Many" (Harris Tweed EP; Freaky Fungi Records) 15.Fuxa-- "Tonality" (Accretion; Mind Expansion Records) 16.Cluster-- title-track (SoWieSoSo; Gyroscope/Sky Records) 17.Agitation Free-- "Laila Pts 1 & 2" (At the Cliffs of River Rhine; Garden of Delights Records) 18.Neu!-- "Weissensee" (ST'd; Astralwerks Records) 19.The Brain-- "Box" (Access and Amplify; Cleopatra Records) 20.Karen Anderson-- "Ouroboros" (Where Stalks the Sandman comp; Noh Poetry Records) 21.Amon Duul 2-- "Luzifers Ghilom" (Phallus Dei; Liberty/Sunset Records) 22.Pretty Things-- "Street Girl" (Electric Banana; Repitoire Records) 23.Frank Zappa-- "Disco Boy" (Zoot Alures; Rykodisc Records) 24.Gorilla-- "Flying Doctor" (Assassins of Silence Hawkwind Tribute; Ceres Records) 25.Census of Hallucinations-- "Flight of the Cosmic Snot" (The 4th Dimension; Stone Premonitions Records) 26.Hawkwind-- "Death Trap" (Sonic Assassins EP/Mighty Hawkwind Classics; Flicknife/Griffin Records) thanks, Chuck From laura.waesche at CEXP.COM Tue Aug 7 09:25:09 2001 From: laura.waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:25:09 -0500 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Oh, come now. Let's play nice. And I would think the actual members of Hawkwind would best know what they're about. Laura Waesche Corporate Express Document & Print Management 1721 Moon Lake Blvd Suite 305 888-252-1526 >>> "Stuckey, Robert" 08/07/01 04:46AM >>> From: Chris Allen > >Who played on Levitation (and on the bootleg Utopia 1984)? It's my 2nd fave >besides Space Ritual. > Levitation is my favourite ever Hawkwind song, but it was not made by Huw's guitar. Levitation could have a cover version made by Atomic Kitten and it would still be fantastic!!! I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! bye - Rob From nick at NETPHD.NET Tue Aug 7 09:40:54 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:40:54 -0400 Subject: OFF: Skynyrd/Ed King In-Reply-To: <3B6F9B74.3465.235C31@localhost> Message-ID: Just to put a possible post-script to this whole Skynyrd discussion. . . Now that Leon is dead, there\'s a chance there won\'t be a Lynyrd Skynyrd anymore. In order to get back together, the band needed the okay of Ronnie\'s widow. She drew up a contract stipulating that the Skynyrd name could only be used if THREE original members were in the band. Now, I think, the only ones left are Gary Rossington and Billy POwell. . . Unless Rick Medlocke or Hughie Thomasson were long-ago members themselves or something. Of course, there are still a couple original members kicking around, like Artemis Pyle. . . who DID participate in the reunion early on, but left acrimoniously and now claims it\'s cheesy. I guess poor Dale Krantz Rossington doesn\'t count. --Nick From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 7 10:07:29 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:07:29 EDT Subject: OFF: Skynyrd/Ed King In-Reply-To: <997191654.3b6fefe62202c@www.netphd.net> Message-ID: On 7 Aug 2001, at 9:40, Nick English wrote: > Just to put a possible post-script to this whole Skynyrd discussion. . > . > > Now that Leon is dead, there\'s a chance there won\'t be a Lynyrd > Skynyrd anymore. In order to get back together, the band needed the > okay of Ronnie\'s widow. She drew up a contract stipulating that the > Skynyrd name could only be used if THREE original members were in the > band. Now, I think, the only ones left are Gary Rossington and Billy > POwell. . . Unless Rick Medlocke or Hughie Thomasson were long-ago > members themselves or something. > > Of course, there are still a couple original members kicking around, > like Artemis Pyle. . . who DID participate in the reunion early on, > but left acrimoniously and now claims it\'s cheesy. But wasn't Bob Burns the original drummer? He played on the first few records. Artimus came on board ca. Street Survivors, n'est-ce pas? theo From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 6 14:27:42 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:27:42 +0100 Subject: BOC-NEW CD Message-ID: Meanwhile......this just in from our UK Correspondent - order your copy NOW from CD Services at: agcdser at aol.com or andygee at dial.pipex.com ========================= BLUE OYSTER CULT 'Tales From The Psychic Wars' FORMAT: 2 CD SET RELEASE DATE: 27th August 2001 RETAIL PRICE: ?13.99 Disc One: New York 1981 1.Dr. Music 2.Burnin' for you 3.Fire of unknown origin 4.Joan Crawford 5.Veterans of the psychic wars 6.Hot Rails To Hell 7.Me 262 8.Dont fear the reaper 9.Godzilla 10.Born to be wild 11.5 Guitars 12.Roadhouse Blues Disc two: Pasadena Perkins palace 1983 1.Stairways to the stars 2.Harvester of eyes 3.Workshop of the telescopes 4.Beforethe Kiss, 5.Born to rock 6.Hot rails to hell 7.Seven screaming dizbusters 8.Cities on flame with rock'n roll 9.Burnin' for you 10.Joan Crawford 11.Born to be wild 12.Don't fear the reaper 13.Roadhouse Blues Two live Shows from the east and west coasts of America. Disc one recorded inNew York in 1981 on the"Fire of Unknown Origin" Tour. Disc two recorded in Pasadena, California in 1983 on a tour that pre-empted the release of the bands 9th album "The Revolution By Night" in 1983. The New York show features 4 tracks from "Fire" aswell as showstoppers from "Agents of Fortune,"Tyranny and Mutation" "Secret Treaties" "Mirrors" and "Spectres". The Pasadena show features a wealth of earlier material such as Stairway to the Stars, Before the Kiss a Red Cap, and Workshop of the Telescope aswell as "Don't fear the Reaper!!!" From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 6 14:56:14 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:56:14 +0100 Subject: HW: a new remaster? Message-ID: ex-Spacehead synth man Phil's CD-R available to order from CD Services in about two days time - and it's great stuff too - well recommended and good to be back in touch with Mr Howard - ex pect more releases soon. Andy G (CD Services) > I also heard that Phil Howard has a CDR about to be out, including some > work with the Captain, etc..... From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Aug 7 10:50:09 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:50:09 -0500 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: There have been alot of folks in and out of HAWKWIND. I think HUW added a very nice touch to their music. I don't see why alot of people on here keep bashing HUW or NIK. If you don't like them don't go to the show. Each HW album is unique to me. I have a few I don't really like as well as people that have been in the band. I think HUW is a talented player as well as writer. It saddens me that you guys think he sucks. Is Calvert gonna be bashed next for being too punk? The 80's was good for metal music. I don't really like it much. Don't you think that maybe HW were trying to fit in with the times. HAWKWIND rule. If you want to bash people why not MARILYN MANSON or someone that deserves it. Peace STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Laura Waesche [mailto:laura.waesche at CEXP.COM] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:25 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins Oh, come now. Let's play nice. And I would think the actual members of Hawkwind would best know what they're about. Laura Waesche Corporate Express Document & Print Management 1721 Moon Lake Blvd Suite 305 888-252-1526 >>> "Stuckey, Robert" 08/07/01 04:46AM >>> From: Chris Allen > >Who played on Levitation (and on the bootleg Utopia 1984)? It's my 2nd fave >besides Space Ritual. > Levitation is my favourite ever Hawkwind song, but it was not made by Huw's guitar. Levitation could have a cover version made by Atomic Kitten and it would still be fantastic!!! I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! bye - Rob From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 7 10:56:30 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:56:30 EDT Subject: BOC-NEW CD In-Reply-To: <000201c11f52$3bb85500$1e13bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On 6 Aug 2001, at 19:27, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > 3.Workshop of the telescopes Whoa! This has got to be one super rare recording. I've never even HEARD of them doing this tune live! > 5.Born to rock Pretty f-in' rare on this too, though I did hear BOC do this tune live once, right after Flat Out was released... theo [clawing the plastic out of my wallet] From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 7 11:05:13 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:05:13 EDT Subject: Huw Rejoins In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D800A32794A@HERMES> Message-ID: On 7 Aug 2001, at 9:50, Stephen Lindas wrote: If > you want to bash people why not MARILYN MANSON or someone that > deserves it. Peace STEPHE Ahh...peaceful bashing. That's a pair of strange bedfellows... theo From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Aug 7 11:25:27 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:25:27 -0400 Subject: BOC-NEW CD In-Reply-To: <000201c11f52$3bb85500$1e13bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: => Meanwhile......this just in from our UK Correspondent - order your copy NOW => from CD Services at: => agcdser at aol.com => or => andygee at dial.pipex.com => => ========================= => BLUE OYSTER CULT => 'Tales From The Psychic Wars' => => FORMAT: 2 CD SET => => RELEASE DATE: 27th August 2001 => => RETAIL PRICE: ?13.99 => => Disc One: New York 1981 [...] => Disc two: Pasadena Perkins palace 1983 [...] Is this a legit release? (If so, on which label?) I ask because disc 1 is the same as the bootleg _The Thing!_ (treed out on BOC-L not to many moons ago), and disc 2 the same as the _Nail You Down_ bootleg. If it is legit, have they improved the sound quality? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From laura.waesche at CEXP.COM Tue Aug 7 10:55:38 2001 From: laura.waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:55:38 -0500 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Well said!!! Laura Waesche Corporate Express Document & Print Management 1721 Moon Lake Blvd Suite 305 888-252-1526 >>> Stephen Lindas 08/07/01 09:50AM >>> There have been alot of folks in and out of HAWKWIND. I think HUW added a very nice touch to their music. I don't see why alot of people on here keep bashing HUW or NIK. If you don't like them don't go to the show. Each HW album is unique to me. I have a few I don't really like as well as people that have been in the band. I think HUW is a talented player as well as writer. It saddens me that you guys think he sucks. Is Calvert gonna be bashed next for being too punk? The 80's was good for metal music. I don't really like it much. Don't you think that maybe HW were trying to fit in with the times. HAWKWIND rule. If you want to bash people why not MARILYN MANSON or someone that deserves it. Peace STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Laura Waesche [mailto:laura.waesche at CEXP.COM] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:25 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins Oh, come now. Let's play nice. And I would think the actual members of Hawkwind would best know what they're about. Laura Waesche Corporate Express Document & Print Management 1721 Moon Lake Blvd Suite 305 888-252-1526 >>> "Stuckey, Robert" 08/07/01 04:46AM >>> From: Chris Allen > >Who played on Levitation (and on the bootleg Utopia 1984)? It's my 2nd fave >besides Space Ritual. > Levitation is my favourite ever Hawkwind song, but it was not made by Huw's guitar. Levitation could have a cover version made by Atomic Kitten and it would still be fantastic!!! I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! bye - Rob From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 7 11:32:40 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:32:40 EDT Subject: Bob Calvert a punk? Message-ID: In a message dated 8/7/01 10:52:01 AM, Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << Is Calvert gonna be bashed next for being too punk?>> ======= um....Mr Calvert was not, under any circumstances, a punk. at some point he apparently felt he was nicked by certain mid-late '70s punks, but Mr Calvert was not a punk. lolol...if anything he returned the perceived 'nick' in pxr5's 'uncle sam's on mars' with the line 'two cars in the garage-uh' sounding quite a bit like mr. lydon, for that one line. sigh..... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 7 11:37:37 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:37:37 EDT Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: In a message dated 8/7/01 10:52:01 AM, Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << Don't you think that maybe HW were trying to fit in with the times?** ==== i missed that line.... **no, not at all. "trying to fit in with the times"? this one believes they didnt care at all about 'fitting in'. "<>" From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Aug 7 11:43:06 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:43:06 -0500 Subject: Bob Calvert a punk? Message-ID: Sorry, but I wasn't meaning Robert was a punk. I know all about punk. I was trying to make a point. Damnation Alley sure had a apocalyptic punk type vision. Hope I'm notting starting a debate here. My point was I think HUW was a unique part of HW, just as ROBERT was. Each member contibuted their own styles and talents to make HW the AWESOME/UNIQUE institution they are. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:33 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Bob Calvert a punk? In a message dated 8/7/01 10:52:01 AM, Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << Is Calvert gonna be bashed next for being too punk?>> ======= um....Mr Calvert was not, under any circumstances, a punk. at some point he apparently felt he was nicked by certain mid-late '70s punks, but Mr Calvert was not a punk. lolol...if anything he returned the perceived 'nick' in pxr5's 'uncle sam's on mars' with the line 'two cars in the garage-uh' sounding quite a bit like mr. lydon, for that one line. sigh..... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 7 11:50:02 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:50:02 EDT Subject: Bob Calvert a punk? Message-ID: In a message dated 8/7/01 11:45:04 AM, Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM writes: << Sorry, but I wasn't meaning Robert was a punk. I know all about punk. >> oh, do ye now??? lolololol ======= no tangling here..... "<>" From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 7 11:56:07 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:56:07 EDT Subject: Bob Calvert a punk? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7 Aug 2001, at 11:50, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 8/7/01 11:45:04 AM, Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM writes: > > << Sorry, but I wasn't meaning Robert was a punk. I know all about > punk. >> > > oh, do ye now??? > lolololol > ======= > no tangling here..... > > "<>" Uh oh..."<>" is feeling frisky! theo From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Aug 7 12:33:59 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:33:59 +0800 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Hi It's the same as with Doctor Who (a particular TV favourite of mine). There were some great stories, & there were some crappy stories. Sometimes the actors were brilliant, sometimes embarrassing to watch. Tom Baker (the most well known) in particular became annoying after a few years, when he started sending the role up! But know matter how bad it sometimes became, I stayed with it, as I had faith in it. Hawkwind have also went through some low points, but I know that it's only temporary. I found albums like Xenon CodeX & Black Sword to be drifting into the realms of your average heavy metal band, yet there was material within those albums (such as Sword of the East for one) that showed they still had what it takes. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lindas" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:50 PM Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > There have been alot of folks in and out of HAWKWIND. I think HUW added a > very nice touch to their music. I don't see why alot of people on here keep > bashing HUW or NIK. If you don't like them don't go to the show. Each HW > album is unique to me. I have a few I don't really like as well as people > that have been in the band. I think HUW is a talented player as well as > writer. It saddens me that you guys think he sucks. Is Calvert gonna be > bashed next for being too punk? The 80's was good for metal music. I don't > really like it much. Don't you think that maybe HW were trying to fit in > with the times. HAWKWIND rule. If you want to bash people why not MARILYN > MANSON or someone that deserves it. Peace STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Waesche [mailto:laura.waesche at CEXP.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:25 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > > > Oh, come now. Let's play nice. > > And I would think the actual members of Hawkwind would best know what > they're about. > > Laura Waesche > Corporate Express Document & Print Management > 1721 Moon Lake Blvd > Suite 305 > 888-252-1526 > > >>> "Stuckey, Robert" 08/07/01 04:46AM >>> > From: Chris Allen > > > >Who played on Levitation (and on the bootleg Utopia 1984)? It's my 2nd > fave > >besides Space Ritual. > > > > > Levitation is my favourite ever Hawkwind song, but it was not > made by Huw's guitar. > > Levitation could have a cover version made by Atomic Kitten and > it would still be fantastic!!! > > I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. > > Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky > 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals > not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! > > bye - Rob > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 7 13:49:34 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Billy The Monster) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:49:34 -0600 Subject: OFF: Skynyrd/Ed King In-Reply-To: <3B6FBDE0.7642.74DB04@localhost> Message-ID: Hey guys. I just wanted to say thanks very much for that, I enjoyed it immensly... While I never personally dug into them originally, mainly as I was only like 12 when the plane crashed, in retrospect they were a bunch of characters for sure who made REAL music, and didn't hate the Neil Young God after all..... I personally can't adjust to the little brother singing, at least from what I have seen on TV, doing Ronnie's stuff, although their own material may be fantastic,,,, I also miss seeing Allen Collins who seemed like somebody I'd like to know.... Admirable about Artimus, and his stance of allegiance,,,,,, They have a guy from Blackfoot huh?, that was another fairly good band wasn't it??? even though I don't know them either, but remember an older brother of a friend having some of their records, and digging it.....didn't they do that "Train Train" song??....super fantastic whoever did (imho)..... and last night, the resident man himself, Doug P, I think, was curious who the Strawberry Alarm C singer was on "Incense", and bumped into Ed's webpage(s), and was kind to forward it.... When I saw Ed on the first album cover that I have as a result of an old friend leaving me his vinyl collection, recently, and saw what he was credited with, a bell went off of- "this man has major significance" Thanks VERY much again, I enjoyed it....and it IS a terrible shame about Leon as well, he also seemed very cool, person wise..... http://www.soft.net.uk/stevehoare/edking1.htm m c From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Aug 7 13:05:24 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 02:35:24 +0930 Subject: Bob Calvert a punk? Message-ID: Well said Stephe change often freaks the masses yet change is the SPICE of life keeps it all new and fresh and there is not one thing I dont like about hawkwind except that I can't get enough - more MORE!!! > Sorry, but I wasn't meaning Robert was a punk. I know all about punk. I was > trying to make a point. Damnation Alley sure had a apocalyptic punk type > vision. Hope I'm notting starting a debate here. My point was I think HUW > was a unique part of HW, just as ROBERT was. Each member contibuted their > own styles and talents to make HW the AWESOME/UNIQUE institution they are. > CHEERS STEPHE > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 7 13:07:44 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:07:44 EDT Subject: OFF: Skynyrd/Ed King In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7 Aug 2001, at 11:49, Billy The Monster wrote: > Hey guys. > > I just wanted to say thanks very much for that, I enjoyed it > immensly... > While I never personally dug into them originally, mainly as I was > only like 12 when the plane crashed, I saw them just a couple weeks before the crash--at a show headlined by....B?C! Maybe the best overall concert I ever saw, with B?C's laser show still in place... in retrospect they were a bunch > of characters for sure who made REAL music, and didn't hate the Neil > Young God after all..... > Skynyrd and RVZ in particular, were all big Neil Young fans, in fact LS even toured with NY a few times... > > They have a guy from Blackfoot huh?, that was another fairly good > band > wasn't it??? For sure. Rickie Medlocke was Blackfoot's gtrst. I saw them way back when... even though I don't know them either, but remember an > older brother of a friend having some of their records, and digging > it.....didn't they do that "Train Train" song??....super fantastic > whoever did (imho)..... That was Blackfoot all right. In fact, I believe the harp intro to Train Train was played by RM's grandpa... > theo From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 7 14:29:55 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Billy The Monster) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:29:55 -0600 Subject: Bob Calvert a punk? In-Reply-To: <3B6FD755.11943.D85085@localhost> Message-ID: "<>" frisky??? awww "<>", you didn't have a comment waiting (for me) about my favorite subject- http://www.alienjoes.com/mutes/braz2.html, when I awoke..... You know, my theory about playing gigs in the local reservoir being a dangerous attraction..... but anyway, I will say Stephe is someone I have been getting to know lately (won't call him best friend, nuthin like that, cause I lose everyone I say that about) but he knows his punk, I think it's admirable, and Lydon is no stranger where he is concerned I have this itching buring "want" for a pile of Pistol/Lydon stuff (lately) don't mind if I do..... Lol(lottla love) (my version) also- contrary to he, I loved (and love once more) Heavy Metal (when it's good) and life would be horrid without the futuristic drum synchro RCA "masterpieces", and a Church was made a Church, with Huw, and Harvey......(and Martin) otherwise the towers may have shaken and melted, and ancient soil may have already once again kissed the sky, leaving green things only in the worlds of immortal minds,,,,,, "Billy" From jayne at WALLISFAMILY.KAROO.CO.UK Tue Aug 7 13:38:24 2001 From: jayne at WALLISFAMILY.KAROO.CO.UK (JayneWallis) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:38:24 +0100 Subject: Bob Calvert a punk? Message-ID: Bob Calvert wasn't anything in particular - he totally defied categorisation. Among other things, he could certainly be described as a punk pre-cursor - just look at the lyrics to 1973s "Urban Guerilla". ANY punk band would have loved to have written those words. Steve. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Aug 7 13:39:47 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:39:47 -0400 Subject: Bob Calvert a punk? In-Reply-To: <11c.2c293f8.28a16418@aol.com>; from DASLUD@AOL.COM on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 11:32:40AM -0400 Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 11:32:40AM -0400, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 8/7/01 10:52:01 AM, Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM writes: > > << Is Calvert gonna be > > bashed next for being too punk?>> > ======= > um....Mr Calvert was not, under any circumstances, a punk. No, but arguably new wave. Or rather, one can't say he *was* new wave, but there was crosstalk. 20 years on, Hype sure sounds to me like a new-wave album. Lord of the Hornets fits right into the period between NW proper and electrobeat (think Romeo Void/ Waitresses/Flying Lizards). Indeed, I used to work with someone who was as rabid a Depeche-Mode fan as we are HW fans, who absolutely detested "70s guitar rock". This was the end of the 80s, and he'd have been in his early 20s at the time. Of my rather eclectic tastes, the only things he could abide were Hype (but no other HW or friends or relations, thank you very much), the Cars ... and, unaccountably, Petula Clark's Greatest Hits. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 7 14:49:37 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:49:37 +0100 Subject: BOC-NEW CD Message-ID: yes - it is legit - not heard it yet so can't comment - will try and get a promo off the label (Burning Airlines). Andy Garibaldi > Is this a legit release? (If so, on which label?) I ask because > disc 1 is the same as the bootleg _The Thing!_ (treed out on BOC-L not > to many moons ago), and disc 2 the same as the _Nail You Down_ bootleg. > > If it is legit, have they improved the sound quality? > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Aug 7 14:22:26 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:22:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Barney exhibit Message-ID: Finally got to see it this afternoon. If you're at all interested in the history of Hawkwind, you'll kick yourself if you miss it - it's only on until Thursday though so get your skates on! Lots of great stuff - the Space Ritual stage design notes, lots of unused artwork, and (my favourite) the film loop that was planned to be used on the Hawklords tour: a lo-fi b&w assembly of strange and gritty imagery, which reminded me of the film loops used nowadays by Godspeed You Black Emperor!, except this was a quarter of a century ago... There's also lots of prime cuts from FRIENDS magazine, including the famous Hawkwind kite, and they've even cut out and asembled the kite (from a colour photocopy, natch!). And a kind of tarot layout, from IT in 1971, with the lyrics to "Born to Go" and "Infinity" scattered among the cards... What comes through clearly is how central Barney was to Hawkwind's imagery in the seventies - not simply an illustrator, but an originator of ideas. It's supposed to be at the Nik gig at Blackpool on Sunday, but looking at the scale of the exhibit (it's all mounted on about forty heavy boards each about one metre by two, and is more properly an installation), I don't think they'll physically be able to move it all in time, so it probably won't be the full exhibit; and the pieces will probably be dispersed to their various owners after that. I was graciously allowed to take a few photos - though not of the film, sadly, and nothing too detailed - and they might might their way onto a website at some point. (By the way, some of the Space Ritual design stuff did make in into the packaging for the 1999 PARTY album, so if you've got that, then you have one of the bigger pieces of the jigsaw.) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Tue Aug 7 14:39:33 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:39:33 +0200 Subject: HW: Barney exhibit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Finally got to see it this afternoon. > >If you're at all interested in the history of Hawkwind, you'll kick yourself >if you miss it - it's only on until Thursday though so get your skates on! >Lots of great stuff - the Space Ritual stage design notes, lots of unused >artwork, and (my favourite) the film loop that was planned to be used on the >Hawklords tour: a lo-fi b&w assembly of strange and gritty imagery, which >reminded me of the film loops used nowadays by Godspeed You Black Emperor!, >except this was a quarter of a century ago... > >There's also lots of prime cuts from FRIENDS magazine, including the famous >Hawkwind kite, and they've even cut out and asembled the kite (from a colour >photocopy, natch!). And a kind of tarot layout, from IT in 1971, with the >lyrics to "Born to Go" and "Infinity" scattered among the cards... > >What comes through clearly is how central Barney was to Hawkwind's imagery >in the seventies - not simply an illustrator, but an originator of ideas. > >It's supposed to be at the Nik gig at Blackpool on Sunday, but looking at >the scale of the exhibit (it's all mounted on about forty heavy boards each >about one metre by two, and is more properly an installation), I don't think >they'll physically be able to move it all in time, so it probably won't be >the full exhibit; and the pieces will probably be dispersed to their various >owners after that. > >I was graciously allowed to take a few photos - though not of the film, >sadly, and nothing too detailed - and they might might their way onto a >website at some point. > >(By the way, some of the Space Ritual design stuff did make in into the >packaging for the 1999 PARTY album, so if you've got that, then you have one >of the bigger pieces of the jigsaw.) > >-- Andy isn't it weird or strange that during the reunion last year not even ONE word was said about robert calvert and/or barney bubbles............. dead but forgotten by ALL the members of hawkwind :) andre From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Aug 7 14:56:59 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:56:59 -0400 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:50:09 -0500, Stephen Lindas wrote: >There have been alot of folks in and out of HAWKWIND. I think HUW added a >very nice touch to their music. I don't see why alot of people on here keep >bashing HUW or NIK. I don't really see much "bashing", per se, going on (well, except when the subject of Ginger Baker's drum solo or Dave Anderson's latest "reissue" comes up ). I'd much rather see people stating controversial opinions, as long as A) they can convincingly support the opinion in one way or another, and B) they're not offended that other people may not hold that opinion, and are willing to hear those alternate opinions. "Huw sucks" or "Nik should stay offstage" doesn't say anything, but "these are the reasons that I find Nik annoying..." or "I don't like these things about Huw's guitar playing..." does. I'm all for "agreeing to disagree". Hawkwind have been a lot of different things over their 30-year career, and that IMO is one of their greatest strengths. But it also means that just about everyone who likes Hawkwind is going to like some of those things more than others. *I* certainly have my favorite things about them ... >If you want to bash people why not MARILYN >MANSON or someone that deserves it. ... but that's just TOO easy! :^) -Doug (who loves Hawkwind partially because they ARE so bash-able!) jasret at mindspring.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 7 16:29:05 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:29:05 -0600 Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://www.alienjoes.com/mutes/braz2.html, I do, TRULY apologize, if sending this link ,to the list, was a bit too tasteless..... after I looked again, it occured to me.... If you are a nice lady, or weak of stomach, don't go there,,,,, or if possible UFO mysteries just bore you to tears and cause maniacal yawning, as seems to be the case with much of the populace mike From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 7 15:31:27 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:31:27 EDT Subject: OFF: Skynyrd/Ed King In-Reply-To: <000501c137d3$4cab33c0$0c40e518@msns.sm.ptd.net> Message-ID: On 7 Sep 2001, at 15:28, Project2501 wrote: > Rickey Medlocke was an old time member of the band...he played drums > on a number of tracks that are on the First And...Last album. > You are quite right! > One of the big things with Ed King not coming back (outside of the > congestive heart failure thing) was that he felt the band breached > their contract with him. He sued them, IIRC. According to EK, he was supposed to be on leave until his health problems were resolved. When the band hired a replacement guitarist and hit the road, EK sued them. Apparently, the suit was settled. Not a wise career move for Ed, unless he needed the money... theo From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Aug 7 15:36:17 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:36:17 -0500 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: It was a bit graphic but not tasteless. The site did have warnings about this so you didn't *have* to look if you didn't want to. Sure glad I wasn't having breakfast at the time though ... ;) We probably have a few Art Bell, www.artbell.com, fans on the list so I thought it was an OK OFF topic. Just my two cents, Karen (a nice lady) ;) mike c wrote: > > http://www.alienjoes.com/mutes/braz2.html, > > I do, TRULY apologize, if sending this link ,to the list, was a bit too > tasteless..... > > after I looked again, it occured to me.... > > If you are a nice lady, or weak of stomach, don't go there,,,,, > > or if possible UFO mysteries just bore you to tears and cause maniacal > yawning, as seems to be the case with much of the populace > > mike From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Tue Aug 7 15:35:01 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (jean-charles moriaud) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:35:01 +0200 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: Your mail stinks! This is pure spam. My daughter could have follow this link, you bastard! This is not only stupid, but a true scandal. I am missing words in english to discribe this. Please have this guy banned from this list and lets flood his mailbox with protest mails. Jean-Charles Moriaud ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:29 PM Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > http://www.alienjoes.com/mutes/braz2.html, > > I do, TRULY apologize, if sending this link ,to the list, was a bit too > tasteless..... > > after I looked again, it occured to me.... > > If you are a nice lady, or weak of stomach, don't go there,,,,, > > or if possible UFO mysteries just bore you to tears and cause maniacal > yawning, as seems to be the case with much of the populace > > mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Aug 7 15:51:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 05:21:45 +0930 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: No - Lets not...... ----- Original Message ----- From: jean-charles moriaud To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:05 AM Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > Your mail stinks! This is pure spam. My daughter could have follow this > link, you bastard! > > This is not only stupid, but a true scandal. I am missing words in english > to discribe this. > > Please have this guy banned from this list and lets flood his mailbox with > protest mails. > > Jean-Charles Moriaud > From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Tue Aug 7 15:54:42 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (jean-charles moriaud) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:54:42 +0200 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Inflatable Ingrid" Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > No - Lets not...... Sorry for my english... but what do you mean? I over reacted a bit, maybe, but I was working on my PC with my daughter (11) and while she was busy with something else, I followed the link and she nearly saw this horror when she looked back at the screen. I do not understand this bullshit anyway, and I don't see why it appears on this list. Best regards, JCMoriaud, France _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 7 16:07:18 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:07:18 EDT Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: <006601c11f7a$ce578d40$df2ce4d5@bureau> Message-ID: On 7 Aug 2001, at 21:54, jean-charles moriaud wrote: > Sorry for my english... but what do you mean? > > I over reacted a bit, maybe, but I was working on my PC with my > daughter (11) and while she was busy with something else, I followed > the link and she nearly saw this horror when she looked back at the > screen. I do not understand this bullshit anyway, and I don't see why > it appears on this list. > I haven't been able to look at it yet, because I'm at work, and I don't want my boss seeing it! But, to suggest spamming someone for an offensive post falls under the rubric of '2 wrongs don't make a right...' theo [who can't wait to click on it!] From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Aug 7 16:13:10 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 05:43:10 +0930 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: I haven't seen this page yet - I understand how you feel I will look at the page and express my feelings about it. The fellow that posted that link is a friend and Im sure when he realises your young daughter could have accidently viewed something disgusting he would feel bad about it. and be more thoughtful in the future. So lets not harrass him just yet :) Besides, we have pics of him with farm animals ( LoL ) just kidding Have a magical day or night (whatever it may be) Sincerely Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: jean-charles moriaud To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:24 AM Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Inflatable Ingrid" > Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > > > No - Lets not...... > > Sorry for my english... but what do you mean? > > I over reacted a bit, maybe, but I was working on my PC with my daughter > (11) and while she was busy with something else, I followed the link and she > nearly saw this horror when she looked back at the screen. > I do not understand this bullshit anyway, and I don't see why it appears on > this list. > > Best regards, JCMoriaud, France > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 7 17:16:07 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:16:07 -0600 Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: <006601c11f7a$ce578d40$df2ce4d5@bureau> Message-ID: Dear JC I am REALLY sorry- as I said in private-- I had forgotten how bad some of the photos were it didn't belong here, and I will take this as another one of my embarrasing lessons in public (god thats alot) (I only want to be "normal") That stuff scares me now, and I am 36.....I truly feel awful if she had seen it, as just UFO stuff terrified me when I was little (still does, actually) I forget there are children, and different 'mindsets' in the populace.... I have enough negativity and "bad energy" surrounding me now, without this kind of upset, I won't put stuff like that again- here mike c From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Tue Aug 7 16:07:11 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (jean-charles moriaud) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:07:11 +0200 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Jackson" Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > I haven't been able to look at it yet, because I'm at work, and I don't > want my boss seeing it! But, to suggest spamming someone for an > offensive post falls under the rubric of '2 wrongs don't make a right...' You are right, I over reacted, don't spam the spammers... > theo > [who can't wait to click on it!] Don't! ;-) JCMoriaud _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From tclark at PETRONET.NET Tue Aug 7 16:06:19 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:06:19 -0500 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: I think looking at dead people sucks. That is all. Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > I haven't seen this page yet - I understand how you feel > I will look at the page and express my feelings about it. > > The fellow that posted that link is a friend and Im sure when he realises > your young daughter could have accidently viewed something disgusting he > would feel bad about it. and be more thoughtful in the future. > > So lets not harrass him just yet :) > > Besides, we have pics of him with farm animals ( LoL ) just kidding > > Have a magical day or night (whatever it may be) > > Sincerely > Michael B > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jean-charles moriaud > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:24 AM > Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Inflatable Ingrid" > > Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > > > > > No - Lets not...... > > > > Sorry for my english... but what do you mean? > > > > I over reacted a bit, maybe, but I was working on my PC with my daughter > > (11) and while she was busy with something else, I followed the link and > she > > nearly saw this horror when she looked back at the screen. > > I do not understand this bullshit anyway, and I don't see why it appears > on > > this list. > > > > Best regards, JCMoriaud, France > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Aug 7 16:17:02 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 05:47:02 +0930 Subject: (OFF) afterthought and confusion Message-ID: ok - if two wrongs don't make a right what do two rights make what about a wrong then a right? or is that just balanced karma in the making? arrgh ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted Jackson To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:37 AM Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > On 7 Aug 2001, at 21:54, jean-charles moriaud wrote: > > > Sorry for my english... but what do you mean? > > > > I over reacted a bit, maybe, but I was working on my PC with my > > daughter (11) and while she was busy with something else, I followed > > the link and she nearly saw this horror when she looked back at the > > screen. I do not understand this bullshit anyway, and I don't see why > > it appears on this list. > > > I haven't been able to look at it yet, because I'm at work, and I don't > want my boss seeing it! But, to suggest spamming someone for an > offensive post falls under the rubric of '2 wrongs don't make a right...' > > theo > [who can't wait to click on it!] > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 7 16:17:55 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:17:55 EDT Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7 Aug 2001, at 15:16, mike c wrote: > I have enough negativity and "bad energy" surrounding me now, without > this > kind of upset, I won't put stuff like that again- here > > mike c Until next time, that is... theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 7 16:19:36 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:19:36 EDT Subject: (OFF) afterthought and confusion In-Reply-To: <015201c11f7d$ec3d54e0$89cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On 8 Aug 2001, at 5:47, Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > ok - if two wrongs don't make a right > what do two rights make > what about a wrong then a right? or is that just balanced karma in > the making? > Hey, it's an old saying--I didn't make it up! theo From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Aug 7 16:20:22 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:20:22 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:07:18 EDT, Ted Jackson wrote: >I haven't been able to look at it yet, because I'm at work, and I don't >want my boss seeing it! But, to suggest spamming someone for an >offensive post falls under the rubric of '2 wrongs don't make a right...' > >theo >[who can't wait to click on it!] Well, it's not as bad as a video file of someone getting run over by a subway train, sent as an attachment to the list ;^) ... (apologies to those who don't remember that one, and especially to the one who doesn't WANT to remember it!) ... and if you've watched many Dario Argento films, you've DEFINITELY seen worse ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Aug 7 16:25:04 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 05:55:04 +0930 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: >>Tom Clark wrote: > I think looking at dead people sucks. That is all. > fair enough - don't look at them then? :) easy! From tclark at PETRONET.NET Tue Aug 7 16:15:57 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:15:57 -0500 Subject: (OFF) afterthought and confusion Message-ID: Why then don't you post stuff like that in a forum deadicated to people who enjoy disseminating gruesome shit..... What do mutilated bodies have to do with Hawkwind anyway?....uhhh ohyeah....except for the song High Rise............. Ted Jackson wrote: > On 8 Aug 2001, at 5:47, Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > > > ok - if two wrongs don't make a right > > what do two rights make > > what about a wrong then a right? or is that just balanced karma in > > the making? > > > Hey, it's an old saying--I didn't make it up! > > theo From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Aug 7 16:26:22 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 05:56:22 +0930 Subject: (OFF) afterthought and confusion Message-ID: sorry man - just playing around we cool, right?? Inflatable Ingrid ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted Jackson To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:49 AM Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought and confusion > On 8 Aug 2001, at 5:47, Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > > > ok - if two wrongs don't make a right > > what do two rights make > > what about a wrong then a right? or is that just balanced karma in > > the making? > > > Hey, it's an old saying--I didn't make it up! > > theo From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Aug 7 16:27:59 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 05:57:59 +0930 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: when did this happen? the subway thing - fer real? why? Where? When? Inflatable Ingrid anyone got a puncture repair kit handy?? ?? ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Pearson To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:50 AM Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:07:18 EDT, Ted Jackson > wrote: > >I haven't been able to look at it yet, because I'm at work, and I don't > >want my boss seeing it! But, to suggest spamming someone for an > >offensive post falls under the rubric of '2 wrongs don't make a right...' > > > >theo > >[who can't wait to click on it!] > > Well, it's not as bad as a video file of someone getting run over by a > subway train, sent as an attachment to the list ;^) ... > > (apologies to those who don't remember that one, and especially to the one > who doesn't WANT to remember it!) > > ... and if you've watched many Dario Argento films, you've DEFINITELY seen > worse ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 7 16:28:19 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:28:19 EDT Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: <016501c11f7f$0b735520$89cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On 8 Aug 2001, at 5:55, Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > >>Tom Clark wrote: > > > I think looking at dead people sucks. That is all. > > > > fair enough - don't look at them then? > > :) > > easy! There's plenty of live people I don't care to look at! theo From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Aug 7 16:31:15 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 06:01:15 +0930 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: > I think looking at dead people sucks. That is all. > wotts wrong wiff dead people anyway? just cause they're dead don't make em bad? tee hee ooops ( taboo subject ) >>sneaking out tha back door!!! :^ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Aug 7 16:32:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 06:02:45 +0930 Subject: (OFF) afterthought and confusion Message-ID: Who me?? I dint do it - I wasn't even there mayn!!!! I been blowin up my Ingrid to no avail and no puncture repair kit thats my alibi!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Clark To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:45 AM Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought and confusion > Why then don't you post stuff like that in a forum deadicated to people > who enjoy disseminating gruesome shit..... > > What do mutilated bodies have to do with Hawkwind anyway?....uhhh > ohyeah....except for the song High Rise............. > > Ted Jackson wrote: > > > On 8 Aug 2001, at 5:47, Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > > > > > ok - if two wrongs don't make a right > > > what do two rights make > > > what about a wrong then a right? or is that just balanced karma in > > > the making? > > > > > Hey, it's an old saying--I didn't make it up! > > > > theo From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Tue Aug 7 16:25:43 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (jean-charles moriaud) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:25:43 +0200 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: Ok, thanks for your mail. A few years ago, maybe I would have ignored your original post. Now that I have kids, I see things differently. I drive more safely, I listen to BOC not as loud as before... But I still, I think that this is a true horror. Hope that you don't beleive all this ribbish ;-) Jean-Charles Moriaud ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > Dear JC > > I am REALLY sorry- as I said in private-- > > I had forgotten how bad some of the photos were > > it didn't belong here, and I will take this as another one of my > embarrasing lessons in public (god thats alot) (I only want to be "normal") > > That stuff scares me now, and I am 36.....I truly feel awful if she had > seen it, as just UFO stuff terrified me when I was little (still does, > actually) > > I forget there are children, and different 'mindsets' in the populace.... > > I have enough negativity and "bad energy" surrounding me now, without this > kind of upset, I won't put stuff like that again- here > > mike c _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 7 17:35:48 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:35:48 -0600 Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: Message-ID: NOT defending that link being sent- but must say, that UFO study is parallel in importance to me with Hawkwind "study" , and I LIVE for this stuff That's why I took it for granted (as that kind of thing is common for me) The sound effects of Hawkwind, and their space themes, along with lyrics like "Alien I Am", and rejecting human touch etc., were the connection my mind was making Hawkwind are my UFO band/soundtrack.... also, I didn't even *really* know that sending links was called spamming....I thought that was when somewone wants you to physically buy things with money.....(but now I do) will keep this in mind as well, that certain subjects may be of a slant that will not be wholly accepted/wanted/appreciated TOTALLY TOTALLY understand about the children, and GOD I DO hope none are frightened by my having done that.. mike From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Aug 7 16:46:38 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:46:38 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterthought and confusion In-Reply-To: <015201c11f7d$ec3d54e0$89cd223f@michaelangelo68>; from michaelangelo68@OZEMAIL.COM.AU on Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 05:47:02AM +0930 Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 05:47:02AM +0930, Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > ok - if two wrongs don't make a right > what do two rights make An airplane. Well, you asked :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 7 17:00:59 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:00:59 EDT Subject: Bob Calvert a punk? Message-ID: In a message dated 8/7/01 1:40:00 PM, erics at TELEPRES.COM writes: << Petula Clark's Greatest Hits. >> lololololol almost bought it saturday!! i aint kiddin! "<>" From coral at APORT.RU Tue Aug 7 17:01:49 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 01:01:49 +0400 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: > I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. > > Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky > 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals > not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! Is anyone interested in such opinions? From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Aug 7 17:13:09 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 06:43:09 +0930 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: NOPE! mwa ha ha maw haa ha >delete< ----- Original Message ----- From: Alice To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 6:31 AM Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > > I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. > > > > Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky > > 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals > > not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! > > Is anyone interested in such opinions? From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Tue Aug 7 17:14:50 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:14:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Barney exhibit Message-ID: I got there today, too. I was with the guy who used to be Stiff Records' accountant, and he was mentioned (though not by name) in one of the exhibits - a letter of Barney's to a friend. It is a shame that a lot of the early material was cheaply printed & thus doesn't look that great in the exhibition. The Hawkwind stuff is the best. My favourite was an original poster of the Astounding Sounds design that found it's way onto the back cover (or the front if you have the 2nd repress!) The artists who put this on should document it on a website for evermore. Andy, the occasional tube train sounds - do you think they were part of the exhibition or for real?! moonglum ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: 07 August 2001 19:22 Subject: HW: Barney exhibit > Finally got to see it this afternoon. > > If you're at all interested in the history of Hawkwind, you'll kick yourself > if you miss it - it's only on until Thursday though so get your skates on! > Lots of great stuff - the Space Ritual stage design notes, lots of unused > artwork, and (my favourite) the film loop that was planned to be used on the > Hawklords tour: a lo-fi b&w assembly of strange and gritty imagery, which > reminded me of the film loops used nowadays by Godspeed You Black Emperor!, > except this was a quarter of a century ago... > > There's also lots of prime cuts from FRIENDS magazine, including the famous > Hawkwind kite, and they've even cut out and asembled the kite (from a colour > photocopy, natch!). And a kind of tarot layout, from IT in 1971, with the > lyrics to "Born to Go" and "Infinity" scattered among the cards... > > What comes through clearly is how central Barney was to Hawkwind's imagery > in the seventies - not simply an illustrator, but an originator of ideas. > > It's supposed to be at the Nik gig at Blackpool on Sunday, but looking at > the scale of the exhibit (it's all mounted on about forty heavy boards each > about one metre by two, and is more properly an installation), I don't think > they'll physically be able to move it all in time, so it probably won't be > the full exhibit; and the pieces will probably be dispersed to their various > owners after that. > > I was graciously allowed to take a few photos - though not of the film, > sadly, and nothing too detailed - and they might might their way onto a > website at some point. > > (By the way, some of the Space Ritual design stuff did make in into the > packaging for the 1999 PARTY album, so if you've got that, then you have one > of the bigger pieces of the jigsaw.) > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Aug 7 17:29:04 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:29:04 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: <200108072020.QAA05540@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Doug Pearson wrote: => ... and if you've watched many Dario Argento films, you've DEFINITELY seen => worse ... It all becomes clear, now. Steve Swann once encouraged me to listen to a band who did a soundtrack for a Dario Argento film. All this is Steve Swann's fault!! I blame Steve Swann! (Blessed be! Some things can always be relied upon.) ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Aug 7 17:31:45 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:31:45 -0400 Subject: Huw Rejoins In-Reply-To: <001501c11f84$2e07ece0$7946efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Alice wrote: => > I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. => > => > Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky => > 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals => > not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! => => Is anyone interested in such opinions? I am. But nobody is interested in my being interested, so I shouldn't have posted this, I suppose. :-) Now let's get back to some good old fashioned hagiography... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Aug 7 17:37:41 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:37:41 -0400 Subject: Bob Calvert a punk? In-Reply-To: <5b.19d234d6.28a1b10b@aol.com>; from DASLUD@AOL.COM on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 05:00:59PM -0400 Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 05:00:59PM -0400, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 8/7/01 1:40:00 PM, erics at TELEPRES.COM writes: > > << Petula Clark's Greatest Hits. > >> > > lololololol It gets funnier. I had this in the form of a tape I'd made, with that on one side and Donovan's Greatest Hits on the other. Seemed like an obvious pairing to me... The coworker in question liked the Pet. Clark side, but as you can imagine, he had no use for Donovan. I got the exact opposite reaction from my brother. We were driving somewhere, and he wanted to hear the Donovan side, but couldn't eject the tape fast enough when it auto-reversed and Downtown came on. > almost bought it saturday!! > i aint kiddin! Cool. But read the index first! I've seen collections of hers with all shlock and none of the good stuff... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Aug 7 17:43:33 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:43:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Barney exhibit In-Reply-To: <000a01c11f86$3c8655c0$62e92ac2@wznhfnxm> Message-ID: > I got there today, too. I was with the guy who used to be Stiff Records' > accountant, and he was mentioned (though not by name) in one of the > exhibits - a letter of Barney's to a friend. I was there I'd say 2-3.30 - spent a lot of time chatting with Rebecca and Mike (the organisers) though. Nice people! > It is a shame that a lot of the early material was cheaply printed & thus > doesn't look that great in the exhibition. The Hawkwind stuff is > the best. > My favourite was an original poster of the Astounding Sounds design that > found it's way onto the back cover (or the front if you have the 2nd > repress!) You're right about the poor quality print - FRIENDS must have been done on an absolute shoestring and was just cheap newsprint; and I don't suppose they've been stored particularly well either, none of that comics-collector bag-and-board stuff. Mike showed me a collection of press cuttings about the exhibit - TIME OUT and THE BIG ISSUE both illustrated it with the Albert Speer eagle hawk... it's certainly the most striking image in the place. Although I have a special fondness for the Hawklords/Pan Transcendental Industries stuff (which was very unpopular at the time - "where's the psychedelia??"). > The artists who put this on should document it on a website for evermore. Well we did talk about that possibility... although it might be a pain sorting copyrights and getting consent. Some of the folks who contributed stuff were apparently a bit paranoid about that. Old hippies eh? :) > Andy, the occasional tube train sounds - do you think they were > part of the > exhibition or for real?! The Circle Line I think!! I must say I'd lived in London long enough to not really notice them though! -- Andy www.andygilham.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 7 17:49:20 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:49:20 EDT Subject: Huw Rejoins/////OFF:Flames aplenty ,on a hot summer night..... Message-ID: In a message dated 8/7/01 5:32:23 PM, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: << Is anyone interested in such opinions? >> ======= all right, i've had it. P*SS OFF, GOON68! YOU W*NKER! =================== yes, i tend to echo those opinions you express, mademoiselle but indeed, those days are gone, y'know. as much as we miss them. == who knows what HW will do.... they're not 'popular' like the [eyeroll] Grateful Dead were to be the socio-cultural institution they became.... and so.... "<>" From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Tue Aug 7 17:56:34 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:56:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Barney exhibit Message-ID: I missed you by half an hour then. Didn't chat to Mike & Rebecca much but they seemed like exceptionally nice people. I kind of hoped the tube trains were the soundtrack to the Hawklords film, with the ghostly factory workers apparating in a deserted laundromat harshly illuminated by fluorescent lights (probably at midnight - in Tokyo)... I can just visualise what a collaboration between Barney Bubbles and JG Ballard would have been like. Anyone seen Ballard's early conceptual fiction, consisting of funky / radical layouts of technical literature like sales catalogue descriptions of surgical implements? ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: 07 August 2001 22:43 Subject: Re: HW: Barney exhibit > > I got there today, too. I was with the guy who used to be Stiff Records' > > accountant, and he was mentioned (though not by name) in one of the > > exhibits - a letter of Barney's to a friend. > > I was there I'd say 2-3.30 - spent a lot of time chatting with Rebecca and > Mike (the organisers) though. Nice people! > <<>> > > Andy, the occasional tube train sounds - do you think they were > > part of the > > exhibition or for real?! > > The Circle Line I think!! I must say I'd lived in London long enough to not > really notice them though! > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 7 19:34:20 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:34:20 -0600 Subject: Huw Rejoins/////OFF:Flames aplenty ,on a hot summer night..... In-Reply-To: <65.18513360.28a1bc60@aol.com> Message-ID: Dear father of the sacred [Eyeroll] that I was so influenced by... Micheal is good people man, really.... we both get carried away a bit in our own ways..... I don't think he is a "goon" or a "wanker", and while I may fall into the second catagory, I am still extremely good at judging people and things I do understand about the multiple posts, and such (myself cringing as I send this, since I have had my go for the day) just would like to say... Micheal- I think they (meaning some people) prefer more substance and "meat and potatoes" on this list, per post..... Don't know if you care or not, and you know I am tolerant of anything, but I think maybe they see you as ignoring requests of yesterday... Again- interesting cat he really is, and very enthousiastic fan, who's enthusiasm has not gone unnoticed by the band, I don't think I'll vouch for him m c From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Aug 7 18:32:41 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:32:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Barney exhibit Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Moonglum > , the occasional tube train sounds - do you think they were part of the > exhibition or for real?! yeah - I assumed the tube train sounds were for real but then having watched the Pan Transcendental Enterprises film through twice the sound seemed to recur at exactly the same place on each occasion. Unfortunately since I had to rush off in search of a real one didn't have a chance to test the possibility further. The people at the desk asked where I'd heard about the exhibition and seemed surprised and impressed when I said from the Hawkwind mailing list! I confess that I was fascinated by the amount of early material someone had obviously lovingly and carefully collected and kept safe; a little dismayed by the revelation of Barney Bubbles character - not how I had envisioned him at all and I had no idea he was the inspiration behind the Imperial Pompadours 'Ersatz'; and rather disappointed by the apparently home-made clumsiness of the presentation and layout. There is probably serious artistic rational behind the layout that I've missed and perhaps the rather grandiose simpliicity was to make some kind of statement but black gothic lettering on 8 foot high washed-out-green coloured slabs of wood didn't seem to me to complement either the antiquity of the early magazines nor the quality of Barney Bubbles creativity. There was a simplicity to his work but not in the massiveness and dullness conveyed by the presentation - where was the colour? - the activity? - the excitement? Admittedly being in a cellar didn't help but even a couple of those oil-slide filters with a lamp would have given some atmosphere. And any background colour other than green..... Maybe. As I say I've probably missed some fundamental point here so if anyone wants to enlighten me feel free! Definitely interesting though. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Aug 7 18:38:36 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:38:36 +0100 Subject: Hello again boc-l Message-ID: Hi Guido I remember you. Welcome back! Where have you been all these years? There's plenty to catch up on - start with the Hawkwind web pages and have fun! cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Guido N. Vacano To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 5:59 PM Subject: Hello again boc-l > Hello All-- > > I'm a former boc-l member who took a long break (perusing the archives, it > looks like my last post was in 1997!), and I'm looking forward to getting up > to snuff on all things Hawkwind. So, "hello" to anyone who remembers me, and > "hello" to anyone who doesn't. :-) > > Guido Vacano > > obCDplayer -- Good Dog Happy Man by Bill Frisell > obCONCERT -- Tool and King Crimson at Red Rocks last Friday > From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Tue Aug 7 18:45:15 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:45:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Barney exhibit Message-ID: Have to agree with you about the way it was presented...utlitarian look no doubt intended not to distract from the exhibits Jill / anyone else: if you're going to canterbury and want to meet up, how about wearing your nickname from boc-l or the IRC channel. mine will say "mooongluum" (IRC chat channel name). laser printer labels (avery L7163) are perfect for the job! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Strobridge To: Sent: 07 August 2001 23:32 Subject: Re: HW: Barney exhibit > I confess that I was fascinated by the amount of early material someone > had obviously lovingly and carefully collected and kept safe; a little > dismayed by the revelation of Barney Bubbles character - not how I had > envisioned him at all and I had no idea he was the inspiration behind > the Imperial Pompadours 'Ersatz'; and rather disappointed by the > apparently home-made clumsiness of the presentation and layout. > There is probably serious artistic rational behind the layout that I've > missed and perhaps the rather grandiose simpliicity was to make some > kind of statement but black gothic lettering on 8 foot high > washed-out-green coloured slabs of wood didn't seem to me to complement > either the antiquity of the early magazines nor the quality of Barney > Bubbles creativity. There was a simplicity to his work but not in > the massiveness and dullness conveyed by the presentation - where was > the colour? - the activity? - the excitement? Admittedly being in a > cellar didn't help but even a couple of those oil-slide filters with a > lamp would have given some atmosphere. And any background colour other > than green..... Maybe. > > As I say I've probably missed some fundamental point here so if anyone > wants to enlighten me feel free! > Definitely interesting though. > jill > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Aug 7 18:56:58 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:26:58 +0930 Subject: OFF:Flames aplenty ,on a hot summer night..... Message-ID: I guess I don't have anything to say really So I leave the list for all the ultra cool people to do their thang and not be a pain in the "bottom" All I know is I love Hawkwind and I must have missed something from "yesterday" Byee!! ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:04 AM Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins/////OFF:Flames aplenty ,on a hot summer night..... > Dear father of the sacred [Eyeroll] that I was so influenced by... > > Micheal is good people man, really.... > > we both get carried away a bit in our own ways..... > > I don't think he is a "goon" or a "wanker", and while I may fall into the > second catagory, I am still extremely good at judging people and things > > I do understand about the multiple posts, and such (myself cringing as I > send this, since I have had my go for the day) just would like to say... > > Micheal- I think they (meaning some people) prefer more substance and > "meat and potatoes" on this list, per post..... > > Don't know if you care or not, and you know I am tolerant of anything, but > I think maybe they see you as ignoring requests of yesterday... > > Again- interesting cat he really is, and very enthousiastic fan, who's > enthusiasm has not gone unnoticed by the band, I don't think > > I'll vouch for him > > m c > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 7 20:11:54 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:11:54 -0600 Subject: OFF:Flames aplenty ,on a hot summer night..... In-Reply-To: <01f401c11f94$43976260$89cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: MB: "I guess I don't have anything to say really" "So I leave the list for all the ultra cool people to do their thang" no dude. I have actually known of "<>" quite a long time, and if I said "they", maybe I did mean "he", and I was really just hoping whatever can be explained, and attended to, could be.... Like my problem, earlier. knowledge is the key m c From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Tue Aug 7 19:46:22 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:46:22 -0400 Subject: OFF:Flames aplenty ,on a hot summer night..... Message-ID: Elric, don't go! >From your loyal ally Moonglum I mean it Mikey B... From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Aug 7 20:06:06 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:06:06 +0800 Subject: OFF:Flames aplenty ,on a hot summer night..... Message-ID: Nah, stay ya silly bugger!!!!! Right now you should be singing the "Olde Australian Hymn." Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Inflatable Ingrid" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 6:56 AM Subject: OFF:Flames aplenty ,on a hot summer night..... > I guess I don't have anything to say really > > So I leave the list for all the ultra cool people to do their thang > > and not be a pain in the "bottom" > > All I know is I love Hawkwind > > and I must have missed something from "yesterday" > > Byee!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mike c > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:04 AM > Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins/////OFF:Flames aplenty ,on a hot summer night..... > > > > Dear father of the sacred [Eyeroll] that I was so influenced by... > > > > Micheal is good people man, really.... > > > > we both get carried away a bit in our own ways..... > > > > I don't think he is a "goon" or a "wanker", and while I may fall into the > > second catagory, I am still extremely good at judging people and things > > > > I do understand about the multiple posts, and such (myself cringing as I > > send this, since I have had my go for the day) just would like to say... > > > > Micheal- I think they (meaning some people) prefer more substance and > > "meat and potatoes" on this list, per post..... > > > > Don't know if you care or not, and you know I am tolerant of anything, > but > > I think maybe they see you as ignoring requests of yesterday... > > > > Again- interesting cat he really is, and very enthousiastic fan, who's > > enthusiasm has not gone unnoticed by the band, I don't think > > > > I'll vouch for him > > > > m c > > > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 7 21:01:58 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:01:58 -0600 Subject: OFF:Flames aplenty ,on a hot summer night..... In-Reply-To: <200108072346.TAA08260@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Moonglum: "Elric, don't go!" THANK GOD looks like I may have lost ANOTHER FRIEND (cmon Micheal)(I'm sorry if I said it wrong) it's been so many years since I punched all those holes in the wall, but my moms face is just too old to break, and she is MY MOM!!! (lol) mike c ps_ I personally always thought your mail was quite creative and funny- I just remember what I thought I PERCEIVED was annoyance at BOTH of us From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Tue Aug 7 20:17:57 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:17:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Skynyrd/Ed King Message-ID: re:R.M. & H.T.-no they weren't... re:D.R.-no she doesn't tim Nick English wrote: > > Just to put a possible post-script to this whole Skynyrd discussion. . . > > Now that Leon is dead, there\'s a chance there won\'t be a Lynyrd Skynyrd > anymore. In order to get back together, the band needed the okay of Ronnie\'s > widow. She drew up a contract stipulating that the Skynyrd name could only be > used if THREE original members were in the band. Now, I think, the only ones > left are Gary Rossington and Billy POwell. . . Unless Rick Medlocke or Hughie > Thomasson were long-ago members themselves or something. > > Of course, there are still a couple original members kicking around, like > Artemis Pyle. . . who DID participate in the reunion early on, but left > acrimoniously and now claims it\'s cheesy. > > I guess poor Dale Krantz Rossington doesn\'t count. > > --Nick From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 7 20:31:53 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:31:53 EDT Subject: OFF:" dont sleep in the spaceship, darlin..." Message-ID: In a message dated 8/7/01 5:38:25 PM, erics at TELEPRES.COM writes: << Cool. But read the index first! I've seen collections of hers with all shlock and none of the good stuff... >> i did! lololol hence my not buying it. what i'd like, and didnt find on napster, is one of hers in french, a #1 there which was converted into "i will follow him" by one 'little peggy march', in the states. aw man, i needed that just now...merci. "<>" From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Tue Aug 7 20:31:35 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:31:35 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterthought and confusion Message-ID: 3 rights make a left tim Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > > ok - if two wrongs don't make a right > what do two rights make > what about a wrong then a right? or is that just balanced karma in the > making? > > arrgh > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ted Jackson > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:37 AM > Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > > > > On 7 Aug 2001, at 21:54, jean-charles moriaud wrote: > > > > > Sorry for my english... but what do you mean? > > > > > > I over reacted a bit, maybe, but I was working on my PC with my > > > daughter (11) and while she was busy with something else, I followed > > > the link and she nearly saw this horror when she looked back at the > > > screen. I do not understand this bullshit anyway, and I don't see why > > > it appears on this list. > > > > > I haven't been able to look at it yet, because I'm at work, and I don't > > want my boss seeing it! But, to suggest spamming someone for an > > offensive post falls under the rubric of '2 wrongs don't make a right...' > > > > theo > > [who can't wait to click on it!] > > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Aug 7 20:35:47 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:35:47 EDT Subject: Let's Get Imaginos Remastered Message-ID: Hey peoples: I was just at www.legacyrecordings.com In the 'Contact Us' section, they have a "Reissue/Compilation Suggestion" form that goes to their A&R department. If enough Cultophiles request a remaster of Imaginos, they might do it (maybe???) Anyway, it couldn't hurt to try, and it don't cost nuthin'! Joe From nycademon at HOME.COM Tue Aug 7 22:06:54 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:06:54 -0600 Subject: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook Message-ID: Hello-- Can anyone tell me how the heck I can get Outlook 2000 to move boc-l email to a boc-l folder? I just got hit with 70 emails! :-) Thanks, Guido From nycademon at HOME.COM Tue Aug 7 22:29:26 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:29:26 -0600 Subject: Huw Rejoins In-Reply-To: <00bf01c11f5e$c35a0c90$4cc63bcb@xl5jji166w6xlq> Message-ID: I think _Xenon Codex_ and _Chronicles_ are both great, and do not sound like your "average heavy metal band" (unless I've been missing average heavy metal altogether, which is quite possible). I also like _It Is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous_, which has also been panned here before, and may represent the other extreme (average space rock band?). Hell, I like it all (except _Text of Festival_, because of the crappy sound quality), which is weird wih a band like Hawkwind, that changes band members like most folks change socks. :-) As for Huw, he's a very talented guitarist who contributed to the great RCA albums CoH, SA, and CYM. I'm glad he's back, and I'm looking forward to the day when all the Huw detractors will be eating their words. :-) Guido -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of William Duffy Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:34 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins Hi It's the same as with Doctor Who (a particular TV favourite of mine). There were some great stories, & there were some crappy stories. Sometimes the actors were brilliant, sometimes embarrassing to watch. Tom Baker (the most well known) in particular became annoying after a few years, when he started sending the role up! But know matter how bad it sometimes became, I stayed with it, as I had faith in it. Hawkwind have also went through some low points, but I know that it's only temporary. I found albums like Xenon CodeX & Black Sword to be drifting into the realms of your average heavy metal band, yet there was material within those albums (such as Sword of the East for one) that showed they still had what it takes. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lindas" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:50 PM Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > There have been alot of folks in and out of HAWKWIND. I think HUW added a > very nice touch to their music. I don't see why alot of people on here keep > bashing HUW or NIK. If you don't like them don't go to the show. Each HW > album is unique to me. I have a few I don't really like as well as people > that have been in the band. I think HUW is a talented player as well as > writer. It saddens me that you guys think he sucks. Is Calvert gonna be > bashed next for being too punk? The 80's was good for metal music. I don't > really like it much. Don't you think that maybe HW were trying to fit in > with the times. HAWKWIND rule. If you want to bash people why not MARILYN > MANSON or someone that deserves it. Peace STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laura Waesche [mailto:laura.waesche at CEXP.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:25 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > > > Oh, come now. Let's play nice. > > And I would think the actual members of Hawkwind would best know what > they're about. > > Laura Waesche > Corporate Express Document & Print Management > 1721 Moon Lake Blvd > Suite 305 > 888-252-1526 > > >>> "Stuckey, Robert" 08/07/01 04:46AM >>> > From: Chris Allen > > > >Who played on Levitation (and on the bootleg Utopia 1984)? It's my 2nd > fave > >besides Space Ritual. > > > > > Levitation is my favourite ever Hawkwind song, but it was not > made by Huw's guitar. > > Levitation could have a cover version made by Atomic Kitten and > it would still be fantastic!!! > > I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. > > Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky > 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals > not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! > > bye - Rob > From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Aug 7 22:44:42 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:44:42 -0400 Subject: Mail sorting with Outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Guido You use the organize button and let it set up a filter to put your emails into a folder you specify. It walks you through the steps. Click on one of the BOC-L emails and then the organize button. You "create a rule" to move messages "from" BOC-L to the folder of your choice. The organize button is a standard button in Outlook 2000 so it should be there. Mike in Troy NY ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::Behalf Of Guido N. Vacano ::Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:07 PM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::Subject: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook :: :: ::Hello-- :: :: Can anyone tell me how the heck I can get Outlook 2000 to move boc-l email ::to a boc-l folder? I just got hit with 70 emails! :-) :: ::Thanks, Guido :: From nycademon at HOME.COM Tue Aug 7 22:59:33 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:59:33 -0600 Subject: OFF: RE: Mail sorting with Outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Mike, that did the trick. Guido -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Mike Habiby Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:45 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Mail sorting with Outlook Guido You use the organize button and let it set up a filter to put your emails into a folder you specify. It walks you through the steps. Click on one of the BOC-L emails and then the organize button. You "create a rule" to move messages "from" BOC-L to the folder of your choice. The organize button is a standard button in Outlook 2000 so it should be there. Mike in Troy NY ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::Behalf Of Guido N. Vacano ::Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:07 PM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::Subject: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook :: :: ::Hello-- :: :: Can anyone tell me how the heck I can get Outlook 2000 to move boc-l email ::to a boc-l folder? I just got hit with 70 emails! :-) :: ::Thanks, Guido :: From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 7 23:24:18 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:24:18 EDT Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: In a message dated 8/7/01 10:27:15 PM, nycademon at HOME.COM writes: << I'm glad he's back, and I'm looking forward to the day when all the Huw detractors will be eating their words. :-) >> ======= yeah, you wish. i dont think 'word eating' is on the menu. as for 'detraxions'...personally, it's a matter of the style played in question, and which guitarist's style one prefers. clearly huw has many fans here. did i knock him in these past wonderful days, so much as i expressed disappointment that he, once more, would be taking over as 1st guitar? and folx similarly disappointed expressed themselves adequately. tired out and cranky; and switching to 'no mail' in a day or so, as i've got app 6500 miles of travel/driving ahead...w/machine in tow. dont y'all miss me all at once. "<>" From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Aug 8 01:38:39 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:38:39 -0600 Subject: OFF:Flames aplenty ,on a hot summer night..... In-Reply-To: <01f401c11f94$43976260$89cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: MB: "and I must have missed something from "yesterday"" I don't know, but I ate the words, they tasted simply awful, the pieces of glass from the computer screen chipped (my already chipped)tooth (even worse), you've gone MIA, I can't get your phone to stop being busy, and I have felt deep sadness since this mistake... ughhhh mike c From dahl at AROS.NET Wed Aug 8 02:23:06 2001 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:23:06 -0600 Subject: OFF: Re: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: >>>Besides, we have pics of him with farm animals Can I get the link to this? I'm all for everyone chilling on this. We all make mistakes and I'm sure no harm was intended. Curiosity has not got the best of me yet. I have not checked out the link yet. I'm waiting for Theo's report. When you say "farm animals", could you be more specific? Brad, who has always said "It's OK to love your dog, just don't loooooove your dog". From dahl at AROS.NET Wed Aug 8 02:26:12 2001 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:26:12 -0600 Subject: OFF: Quote of the day Message-ID: >>>There's plenty of live people I don't care to look at! and the truth shall set you free. Brad From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 8 02:38:58 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 06:38:58 +0000 Subject: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help Message-ID: waited for tomorrow but its allready here weard soon i wont be happy for one hour , not just the centre of the universe comming close they found the centre of the galaxy allready !?!.scoring or school. a mangy kur . >From: Kevin Perry >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help >Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:15:24 +0100 > >ACtually it's Acid Reign (off Freq Revisited) - close. > >--- >Kevin Perry >Sonic Energy Authority >http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > >"It is the business of the future to be dangerous; >and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its >duties." > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kevin Perry >To: >Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 12:07 AM >Subject: Re: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help > > > > And Calvert's Thanks to the Scientists has the great line: > > > > Heredity is chosen > > By anyone who wanks > > > > --- > > Kevin Perry > > Sonic Energy Authority > > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > > duties." > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Chuck Rosenberg > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 8:09 PM > > Subject: Re: OFF: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY - a plea for help > > > > > > > the song isn't _all_ about wanking, but there's a reference or two in > > Zappa's > > > "Disco Boy" (Zoot Allures)... > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > ..."just the tip now, just the tip"... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 8 02:48:58 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 06:48:58 +0000 Subject: BOC / HW: Test - ignore Message-ID: why not play hawkwinds IS SEARCH OF SPACE , SPACE RITUAL , THE 1999 PARTY .you may not get to hear quark strangness and charm ,but remember it all is >From: Joe Loehr >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: BOC / HW: Test - ignore >Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:03:16 EDT > >In a message dated 7/6/01 7:53:12 PM US Eastern Standard Time, >rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK writes: > > > > 6. The lovely Gillian did me the great honour the other day of agreeing >to > > become Mrs Lockwood. There's a picture of the most beautiful woman in >the > > world > >Congrats! She's a doll!! > > > > > 7. Since I've been living with the aforementioned Gillian, my stereo >seems > > to have developed a major fault. I can be listening to "Quark, >Strangeness > > and Charm", then I go to make Gill a coffee. I get back into the living > > room and discover that the stereo has mysteriously retuned itself to > > "Dancing Through The 80's With 'Disco' Bloody Danny Petroni". If anyone >has > > any ideas for a fix, they'd be much appreciated. > > >I would suggest that anytime you leave the room, you take the lovely >Gillian >with you, as the spirits that are futzing with the stereo are EVIL >INCARNATE!!!!! It wouldn't do to leave her unprotected. >To exorcise them, I would suggest a complete playing of all Hawkwind and >BOC >music at full volume. The sonic onslaught of such superb music will drive >away any evil (disco) spirits. Always works for me! > >Joe _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 8 03:38:11 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 07:38:11 +0000 Subject: NIK: Greasy Truckers 2001 Message-ID: before or after sector 63 ,dragons never get buried ,parodoxical existance on a parralell earth ,fate ,with a ever increasing,growing,universe in which both the masses of pressure of collision and strain of seperarion are constantly attracting and repeling with a degree of absorbtion .which causis the equasion LIFE EXPECTANCY OF MASS ,true defanition of recoil ,so how is time a relative subject .time is mass time is life define kirk >From: Andy Gilham >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: NIK: Greasy Truckers 2001 >Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:21:10 +0100 > >In case anyone's still not heard about this forthcoming Deviants/Nik Turner >show, Mick Farren now has a notice up at >http://www.thanatosoft.freeserve.co.uk/news.htm in which he describes it >much better then I could... > >-- Andy > >ObMP3: The New Christs - "On Top Of Me" > >www.andygilham.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Aug 8 06:17:25 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 06:17:25 -0400 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: to "<>" 6500 miles!! have a safe trip and don't drive off the end of the earth (there be monsters there) tim DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > > In a message dated 8/7/01 10:27:15 PM, nycademon at HOME.COM writes: > > << I'm glad he's back, and I'm > > looking forward to the day when all the Huw detractors will be eating their > > words. :-) > > >> > ======= > yeah, you wish. > > i dont think 'word eating' is on the menu. > > as for 'detraxions'...personally, it's a matter of the style played in > question, and which guitarist's style one prefers. clearly huw has many fans > here. > did i knock him in these past wonderful days, so much as i expressed > disappointment that he, once more, would be taking over as 1st guitar? > and folx similarly disappointed expressed themselves adequately. > > > tired out and cranky; and switching to 'no mail' in a day or so, as i've got > app 6500 miles of travel/driving ahead...w/machine in tow. > > dont y'all miss me all at once. > > "<>" From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Aug 8 06:50:13 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:50:13 +0100 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Hi I hope I am able to eat my words, I truely hope that Huw is awesome. I don't want the band to sound bad, I even like the fella. the issue is one of the mid 80's guitar style that he played with the band for me. His guitar sound made the band sound leaden and like an average heavy metal band. ( but only on CYM, Live Chronicals and Black Sword, the earlier stuff was great and Sonic Attack is one of my fav hawkwind albums). i'm sure that with Huw's talent he make the band sound even better. I truely hop ethis is the case. BUT as everyone has said just get the band in the studio and get it recorded while they have such talent around them Regards Iain "Guido N. Vacano" wrote: > I think _Xenon Codex_ and _Chronicles_ are both great, and do not sound like > your "average heavy metal band" (unless I've been missing average heavy > metal altogether, which is quite possible). I also like _It Is the Business > of the Future to be Dangerous_, which has also been panned here before, and > may represent the other extreme (average space rock band?). Hell, I like it > all (except _Text of Festival_, because of the crappy sound quality), which > is weird wih a band like Hawkwind, that changes band members like most folks > change socks. :-) As for Huw, he's a very talented guitarist who contributed > to the great RCA albums CoH, SA, and CYM. I'm glad he's back, and I'm > looking forward to the day when all the Huw detractors will be eating their > words. :-) > > Guido > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of William Duffy > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:34 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > > Hi > > It's the same as with Doctor Who (a particular TV favourite of mine). There > were some great stories, & there were some crappy stories. Sometimes the > actors were brilliant, sometimes embarrassing to watch. Tom Baker (the most > well known) in particular became annoying after a few years, when he started > sending the role up! But know matter how bad it sometimes became, I stayed > with it, as I had faith in it. > > Hawkwind have also went through some low points, but I know that it's only > temporary. I found albums like Xenon CodeX & Black Sword to be drifting into > the realms of your average heavy metal band, yet there was material within > those albums (such as Sword of the East for one) that showed they still had > what it takes. > > William > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Lindas" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:50 PM > Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > > > There have been alot of folks in and out of HAWKWIND. I think HUW added a > > very nice touch to their music. I don't see why alot of people on here > keep > > bashing HUW or NIK. If you don't like them don't go to the show. Each HW > > album is unique to me. I have a few I don't really like as well as people > > that have been in the band. I think HUW is a talented player as well as > > writer. It saddens me that you guys think he sucks. Is Calvert gonna be > > bashed next for being too punk? The 80's was good for metal music. I don't > > really like it much. Don't you think that maybe HW were trying to fit in > > with the times. HAWKWIND rule. If you want to bash people why not MARILYN > > MANSON or someone that deserves it. Peace STEPHE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Laura Waesche [mailto:laura.waesche at CEXP.COM] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:25 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > > > > > > Oh, come now. Let's play nice. > > > > And I would think the actual members of Hawkwind would best know what > > they're about. > > > > Laura Waesche > > Corporate Express Document & Print Management > > 1721 Moon Lake Blvd > > Suite 305 > > 888-252-1526 > > > > >>> "Stuckey, Robert" 08/07/01 04:46AM >>> > > From: Chris Allen > > > > > >Who played on Levitation (and on the bootleg Utopia 1984)? It's my 2nd > > fave > > >besides Space Ritual. > > > > > > > > > Levitation is my favourite ever Hawkwind song, but it was not > > made by Huw's guitar. > > > > Levitation could have a cover version made by Atomic Kitten and > > it would still be fantastic!!! > > > > I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. > > > > Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky > > 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals > > not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! > > > > bye - Rob > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Aug 8 06:57:26 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 20:27:26 +0930 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: I can't quite figure why any are labeled as "heavy metal" fer chris-sakes its Hawkwind HAWKWIND is HAWKWIND or space rock if you wanna be funky signed Michael Blackman gazoo player extrodinaire!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Guido N. Vacano To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:59 AM Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > I think _Xenon Codex_ and _Chronicles_ are both great, and do not sound like > your "average heavy metal band" (unless I've been missing average heavy > metal altogether, which is quite possible). I also like _It Is the Business > of the Future to be Dangerous_, which has also been panned here before, and > may represent the other extreme (average space rock band?). Hell, I like it > all (except _Text of Festival_, because of the crappy sound quality), which > is weird wih a band like Hawkwind, that changes band members like most folks > change socks. :-) As for Huw, he's a very talented guitarist who contributed > to the great RCA albums CoH, SA, and CYM. I'm glad he's back, and I'm > looking forward to the day when all the Huw detractors will be eating their > words. :-) > > Guido > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of William Duffy > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:34 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > > > Hi > > It's the same as with Doctor Who (a particular TV favourite of mine). There > were some great stories, & there were some crappy stories. Sometimes the > actors were brilliant, sometimes embarrassing to watch. Tom Baker (the most > well known) in particular became annoying after a few years, when he started > sending the role up! But know matter how bad it sometimes became, I stayed > with it, as I had faith in it. > > Hawkwind have also went through some low points, but I know that it's only > temporary. I found albums like Xenon CodeX & Black Sword to be drifting into > the realms of your average heavy metal band, yet there was material within > those albums (such as Sword of the East for one) that showed they still had > what it takes. > > William > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Lindas" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:50 PM > Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > > > > There have been alot of folks in and out of HAWKWIND. I think HUW added a > > very nice touch to their music. I don't see why alot of people on here > keep > > bashing HUW or NIK. If you don't like them don't go to the show. Each HW > > album is unique to me. I have a few I don't really like as well as people > > that have been in the band. I think HUW is a talented player as well as > > writer. It saddens me that you guys think he sucks. Is Calvert gonna be > > bashed next for being too punk? The 80's was good for metal music. I don't > > really like it much. Don't you think that maybe HW were trying to fit in > > with the times. HAWKWIND rule. If you want to bash people why not MARILYN > > MANSON or someone that deserves it. Peace STEPHE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Laura Waesche [mailto:laura.waesche at CEXP.COM] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:25 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > > > > > > Oh, come now. Let's play nice. > > > > And I would think the actual members of Hawkwind would best know what > > they're about. > > > > Laura Waesche > > Corporate Express Document & Print Management > > 1721 Moon Lake Blvd > > Suite 305 > > 888-252-1526 > > > > >>> "Stuckey, Robert" 08/07/01 04:46AM >>> > > From: Chris Allen > > > > > >Who played on Levitation (and on the bootleg Utopia 1984)? It's my 2nd > > fave > > >besides Space Ritual. > > > > > > > > > Levitation is my favourite ever Hawkwind song, but it was not > > made by Huw's guitar. > > > > Levitation could have a cover version made by Atomic Kitten and > > it would still be fantastic!!! > > > > I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. > > > > Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky > > 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals > > not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! > > > > bye - Rob > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Aug 8 07:01:18 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 20:31:18 +0930 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: THREE MIGHTY CHEERS FOR THE RETURN OF HUW Lloyd LANGTON!!!!!!!!!! WHOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!!! WHHHOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!! WHHHOOOO HOOOOOOOOO! Huw kicks ass !!! Huw Rocks!!!! I want Huw back!!!! and now he is!!!!! In my humble little opinion of course! :) From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Aug 8 07:05:46 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 06:05:46 -0500 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: How about Heavy Space Rock? You are right. There as Heavy Metal as Calvert is PUNK. HA!HA!HA! CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Inflatable Ingrid [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:57 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins I can't quite figure why any are labeled as "heavy metal" fer chris-sakes its Hawkwind HAWKWIND is HAWKWIND or space rock if you wanna be funky signed Michael Blackman gazoo player extrodinaire!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Guido N. Vacano To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:59 AM Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > I think _Xenon Codex_ and _Chronicles_ are both great, and do not sound like > your "average heavy metal band" (unless I've been missing average heavy > metal altogether, which is quite possible). I also like _It Is the Business > of the Future to be Dangerous_, which has also been panned here before, and > may represent the other extreme (average space rock band?). Hell, I like it > all (except _Text of Festival_, because of the crappy sound quality), which > is weird wih a band like Hawkwind, that changes band members like most folks > change socks. :-) As for Huw, he's a very talented guitarist who contributed > to the great RCA albums CoH, SA, and CYM. I'm glad he's back, and I'm > looking forward to the day when all the Huw detractors will be eating their > words. :-) > > Guido > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of William Duffy > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:34 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > > > Hi > > It's the same as with Doctor Who (a particular TV favourite of mine). There > were some great stories, & there were some crappy stories. Sometimes the > actors were brilliant, sometimes embarrassing to watch. Tom Baker (the most > well known) in particular became annoying after a few years, when he started > sending the role up! But know matter how bad it sometimes became, I stayed > with it, as I had faith in it. > > Hawkwind have also went through some low points, but I know that it's only > temporary. I found albums like Xenon CodeX & Black Sword to be drifting into > the realms of your average heavy metal band, yet there was material within > those albums (such as Sword of the East for one) that showed they still had > what it takes. > > William > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Lindas" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:50 PM > Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > > > > There have been alot of folks in and out of HAWKWIND. I think HUW added a > > very nice touch to their music. I don't see why alot of people on here > keep > > bashing HUW or NIK. If you don't like them don't go to the show. Each HW > > album is unique to me. I have a few I don't really like as well as people > > that have been in the band. I think HUW is a talented player as well as > > writer. It saddens me that you guys think he sucks. Is Calvert gonna be > > bashed next for being too punk? The 80's was good for metal music. I don't > > really like it much. Don't you think that maybe HW were trying to fit in > > with the times. HAWKWIND rule. If you want to bash people why not MARILYN > > MANSON or someone that deserves it. Peace STEPHE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Laura Waesche [mailto:laura.waesche at CEXP.COM] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:25 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > > > > > > Oh, come now. Let's play nice. > > > > And I would think the actual members of Hawkwind would best know what > > they're about. > > > > Laura Waesche > > Corporate Express Document & Print Management > > 1721 Moon Lake Blvd > > Suite 305 > > 888-252-1526 > > > > >>> "Stuckey, Robert" 08/07/01 04:46AM >>> > > From: Chris Allen > > > > > >Who played on Levitation (and on the bootleg Utopia 1984)? It's my 2nd > > fave > > >besides Space Ritual. > > > > > > > > > Levitation is my favourite ever Hawkwind song, but it was not > > made by Huw's guitar. > > > > Levitation could have a cover version made by Atomic Kitten and > > it would still be fantastic!!! > > > > I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. > > > > Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky > > 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals > > not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! > > > > bye - Rob > > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 8 07:26:36 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 07:26:36 EDT Subject: OFF: Re: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: <012401c11fd2$974d3fe0$2a18adcf@sony> Message-ID: On 8 Aug 2001, at 0:23, Brad Dahl wrote: > >>>Besides, we have pics of him with farm animals > > Can I get the link to this? > > I'm all for everyone chilling on this. We all make mistakes and I'm > sure no harm was intended. > > Curiosity has not got the best of me yet. I have not checked out the > link yet. I'm waiting for Theo's report. > It's just a bunch of pics of dead people, some with horrific wounds. I guess I'm jaded, but it didn't upset me at all! Nothing nearly as horrible as some of the holocaust books I've seen. I tell ya what, I've cataloged a bunch of clinical nursing books here at the library that would really make ya gag. Graphic wound photos and ganrenous limbs etc! Yum yum... theo From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Aug 8 07:36:10 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:06:10 +0930 Subject: OFF: Re: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: Hey, Everything is cool Everything is sweet Everything is everything! Peace! Elric of Melnibone From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Aug 8 08:07:24 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:07:24 -0400 Subject: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Guido N. Vacano wrote: => Can anyone tell me how the heck I can get Outlook 2000 to move boc-l email => to a boc-l folder? I just got hit with 70 emails! :-) No, but I can tell you how to do it in Eudora. :-) But, for Outlook, I suspect it would involve activating a filter rule that said if the "To:" field was BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU then move the message to folder BOC-L. (For Windows, I only know the specifics of how you activate filter rules in Eudora; I never use Outlook [I don't feel up to the constant patching it seems to require to fix security flaws].) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Aug 8 09:12:50 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:12:50 -0400 Subject: BOC: Let's Get Imaginos Remastered In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Joe wrote: > I was just at www.legacyrecordings.com > In the 'Contact Us' section, they have a "Reissue/Compilation Suggestion" > form that goes to their A&R department. OK I've done my patriotic duty, but are we sure it isn't already Legacy's intention to release Imaginos along with the other BOC albums? I haven't heard anything concrete one way or the other. More questions: What might the extra tracks be? I'd love to hear the full demos of Half Life Time, Overture, The Girl Love Made Blind, and Gil Blanco County. Does Al own the demos, or does Sony own them? Is there any more unreleased material that would make a great bonus track? Brian NP> John Brown's Body "Among Them" -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio There is no Dana, only Zuul http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Wed Aug 8 09:24:00 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 07:24:00 -0600 Subject: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Try opening the message, then under the Action tab click on the Create Rule and follow the steps. Mark -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Paul Mather Subject: Re: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Guido N. Vacano wrote: => Can anyone tell me how the heck I can get Outlook 2000 to move boc-l email => to a boc-l folder? I just got hit with 70 emails! :-) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Aug 8 10:33:50 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:33:50 -0600 Subject: Huw Rejoins In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D800A327959@HERMES> Message-ID: 1) <<"How about Heavy Space Rock? You are right. There as Heavy Metal as Calvert is PUNK.>> (Stephe Lindas) 2) <<"I can't quite figure why any are labeled as "heavy metal">>(Michael Blackman) 3) << His guitar sound made the band sound leaden and like an average heavy metal band. ( but only on CYM, Live Chronicals and Black Sword>>(Ian ferguson) ******************************************************************************** The muttering expulsion of a VERY tired man, who will shortly lay under a tree and wake up covered in overgrowth...... 1) Space Metal, Space Punk, if it blew in from the Crossroads it ain't no junk.. 2) Actually, whilst many collecters are proud of their "Ohhh look! this ones got the blue sticker!! copy of SONIC ATTACK, you know, the copy that tells you the LP includes the hit single "Angels Of Death", I, Of Course, wasn't content to settle for just the average mans semi-rarity, and can "one-up" "it"- I have a copy that has 2 round stickers, the blue "ball", and a red and white "ball" perfectly spaced at the sides of the cover, and equidistant from eachother, as well as parralel, AND exact in size.....the "Other" "Ohh Ahh Sticker" is one from Jem imports that fits the LP perfectly in it's design and color, and the point IS- it clearly TELLS YOU- this is a HEAVY METAL IMPORT- (Michael I am teasing you with this, OBVIOUSLY, in good cheer) 3) My friend Chris, while admirably returning from a life of lots of women and acid, to a life of religion, faith, and clean lungs, etc, and who has heard ALL the albums backwards and forwards and from many different brain altercations, ONLY CARES PARTICULARILY for Choose Your Masques......it's 'HIS' Hawkwind album..... ps- he was one of the ones in that hotel room, out in San Diego, sizzling to the Space Ritual.........but anyway...... I never will forget him saying "Mike, I'm sorry, I just didn't get that 'Big Bang' off Warrior goes to show...with Hawkwind, you just never know/// goodnight m c From nycademon at HOME.COM Wed Aug 8 10:21:20 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:21:20 -0600 Subject: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Two comments there: I'm VERY glad I used Apache as my webserver at work, running on Solaris, rather than a Micro$oft setup. I'm getting a lot of hits from Code Red, and who knows what'll be next. Steve Gibson has some interesting things to say about Microsoft security (or lack thereof) and their newer operating systems. http://grc.com/default.htm Guido (who could go back to reading his mail with Pine . . . :-) ) -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Paul Mather Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 6:07 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Guido N. Vacano wrote: => Can anyone tell me how the heck I can get Outlook 2000 to move boc-l email => to a boc-l folder? I just got hit with 70 emails! :-) No, but I can tell you how to do it in Eudora. :-) But, for Outlook, I suspect it would involve activating a filter rule that said if the "To:" field was BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU then move the message to folder BOC-L. (For Windows, I only know the specifics of how you activate filter rules in Eudora; I never use Outlook [I don't feel up to the constant patching it seems to require to fix security flaws].) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Wed Aug 8 10:37:49 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:37:49 +0100 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: was there ever a music lover quite like him....... I Love you Mikey!!! Bless your little cotton socks..... always makes me smile, this stuff.... Layla. xxxx >>> deltawave at METRONET.COM 08/08/01 03:33pm >>> 1) <<"How about Heavy Space Rock? You are right. There as Heavy Metal as Calvert is PUNK.>> (Stephe Lindas) 2) <<"I can't quite figure why any are labeled as "heavy metal">>(Michael Blackman) 3) << His guitar sound made the band sound leaden and like an average heavy metal band. ( but only on CYM, Live Chronicals and Black Sword>>(Ian ferguson) ******************************************************************************** The muttering expulsion of a VERY tired man, who will shortly lay under a tree and wake up covered in overgrowth...... 1) Space Metal, Space Punk, if it blew in from the Crossroads it ain't no junk.. 2) Actually, whilst many collecters are proud of their "Ohhh look! this ones got the blue sticker!! copy of SONIC ATTACK, you know, the copy that tells you the LP includes the hit single "Angels Of Death", I, Of Course, wasn't content to settle for just the average mans semi-rarity, and can "one-up" "it"- I have a copy that has 2 round stickers, the blue "ball", and a red and white "ball" perfectly spaced at the sides of the cover, and equidistant from eachother, as well as parralel, AND exact in size.....the "Other" "Ohh Ahh Sticker" is one from Jem imports that fits the LP perfectly in it's design and color, and the point IS- it clearly TELLS YOU- this is a HEAVY METAL IMPORT- (Michael I am teasing you with this, OBVIOUSLY, in good cheer) 3) My friend Chris, while admirably returning from a life of lots of women and acid, to a life of religion, faith, and clean lungs, etc, and who has heard ALL the albums backwards and forwards and from many different brain altercations, ONLY CARES PARTICULARILY for Choose Your Masques......it's 'HIS' Hawkwind album..... ps- he was one of the ones in that hotel room, out in San Diego, sizzling to the Space Ritual.........but anyway...... I never will forget him saying "Mike, I'm sorry, I just didn't get that 'Big Bang' off Warrior goes to show...with Hawkwind, you just never know/// goodnight m c From robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK Wed Aug 8 10:25:21 2001 From: robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK (Stuckey, Robert) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:25:21 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 7 Aug 2001 - Special issue (#2001-308) Message-ID: From: Alice > >> I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. >> >> Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky >> 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals >> not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! > >Is anyone interested in such opinions? > Of course they are!! OK, so I'll re-phrase myself....Chronicles is not very good really. The problem is there were too many beards in those days!! Huw can come back....as long as he doesn't grow a beard!!! bye - Rob From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Aug 8 10:40:07 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:40:07 -0500 Subject: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Guido N. Vacano wrote: :Subject: Re: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook : :Two comments there: : : I'm VERY glad I used Apache as my webserver at work, running on Solaris, :rather than a Micro$oft setup. I'm getting a lot of hits from Code Red, and :who knows what'll be next. : : Steve Gibson has some interesting things to say about Microsoft security :(or lack thereof) and their newer operating systems. : :http://grc.com/default.htm : :Guido (who could go back to reading his mail with Pine . . . :-) ) hey....and what's wrong with pine? I know...I can go back to using mail! or change mail.local to cat output directly to /dev/null! save the middleman. Arin (who swears by unix mailreaders, newsreaders, irc clients, and more ;-) ) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From laura.waesche at CEXP.COM Tue Aug 7 16:28:20 2001 From: laura.waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:28:20 -0500 Subject: (OFF) afterthought and confusion Message-ID: Can someone describe the pictures? I can't access them right now from this server. My imagination can be a lot worse, so I need something to bring it into perspective. Laura Waesche Corporate Express Document & Print Management 1721 Moon Lake Blvd Suite 305 888-252-1526 >>> Tom Clark 08/07/01 03:15PM >>> Why then don't you post stuff like that in a forum deadicated to people who enjoy disseminating gruesome shit..... What do mutilated bodies have to do with Hawkwind anyway?....uhhh ohyeah....except for the song High Rise............. Ted Jackson wrote: > On 8 Aug 2001, at 5:47, Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > > > ok - if two wrongs don't make a right > > what do two rights make > > what about a wrong then a right? or is that just balanced karma in > > the making? > > > Hey, it's an old saying--I didn't make it up! > > theo From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Aug 8 10:42:14 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:42:14 -0500 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 7 Aug 2001 - Special issue (#2001-308) Message-ID: That LP is a classic!! Why do you not think its any good? CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Stuckey, Robert [mailto:robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:25 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 7 Aug 2001 - Special issue (#2001-308) From: Alice > >> I stand by what I say about Chronicles...a load of soft-rock bollocks. >> >> Hawkwind is about driving bass lines, psychedelic synth and punky >> 3-chord distorted guitar rythyms, with fantastic hooks in the vocals >> not crappy eighties squiddly widdly guitar etchings!!! > >Is anyone interested in such opinions? > Of course they are!! OK, so I'll re-phrase myself....Chronicles is not very good really. The problem is there were too many beards in those days!! Huw can come back....as long as he doesn't grow a beard!!! bye - Rob From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Aug 8 10:53:27 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:53:27 -0500 Subject: (OFF) afterthought and confusion Message-ID: Check out early albums by the band CARCASS!!! They thrive on mutilation, dismemberment and surgical malpractice. Same with SURGICAL PENIS KLINIC. Those are harder to find though. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Laura Waesche [mailto:laura.waesche at CEXP.COM] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 3:28 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought and confusion Can someone describe the pictures? I can't access them right now from this server. My imagination can be a lot worse, so I need something to bring it into perspective. Laura Waesche Corporate Express Document & Print Management 1721 Moon Lake Blvd Suite 305 888-252-1526 >>> Tom Clark 08/07/01 03:15PM >>> Why then don't you post stuff like that in a forum deadicated to people who enjoy disseminating gruesome shit..... What do mutilated bodies have to do with Hawkwind anyway?....uhhh ohyeah....except for the song High Rise............. Ted Jackson wrote: > On 8 Aug 2001, at 5:47, Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > > > ok - if two wrongs don't make a right > > what do two rights make > > what about a wrong then a right? or is that just balanced karma in > > the making? > > > Hey, it's an old saying--I didn't make it up! > > theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 8 11:14:20 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:14:20 EDT Subject: (OFF) afterthought and confusion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7 Aug 2001, at 15:28, Laura Waesche wrote: > Can someone describe the pictures? I can't access them right now from > this server. My imagination can be a lot worse, so I need something to > bring it into perspective. > It's quite likely that your imagination could provide much more shocking material than the pictures themselves. Not worth the effort, really... theo From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Wed Aug 8 11:23:45 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:23:45 -0400 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Mike, Michael and all, Back in 1979 I said to a mate 'Wouldn't it be great if Huw rejoined' and he did. It was great then, it will be great now coz its Hawkwind. Heavy Metal, Heavy Rock, Space Rock, New Wave, Punk, Acid Dance, Acid Jazz, British Tribal Music and millions of others; even combined they can not do justice to the awesome might of Hawkwind. Bad news tho; I spend ages shouting for them to play Liverpool and I will be hundred miles away with the family that night. Still there's Manchester, Leeds, nottingham. - have car will travel. See you somewhere in that parallel Universe. Mark From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Aug 8 11:39:01 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:39:01 -0400 Subject: Hurry Sundown Message-ID: I am SURE that this isn't what Dave had in mind.. But interesting none the less http://www.themeoftheday.com/4239.html BTW: the Theme of the Day is a CGI Stonehenge that is pretty cool. Mike From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Aug 8 11:53:32 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 01:23:32 +0930 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: You say it with such grace and poise it is a pleasure to read your email!!! and you are right ((and so was I - tee hee )) Hawkwind is Hawkwind - and they are the BEST! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Von Bargen To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:53 AM Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > Mike, Michael and all, > > Back in 1979 I said to a mate 'Wouldn't it be great if Huw rejoined' and he > did. It was great then, it will be great now coz its Hawkwind. > > Heavy Metal, Heavy Rock, Space Rock, New Wave, Punk, Acid Dance, Acid Jazz, > British Tribal Music and millions of others; even combined they can not do > justice to the awesome might of Hawkwind. > > Bad news tho; I spend ages shouting for them to play Liverpool and I will > be hundred miles away with the family that night. Still there's Manchester, > Leeds, nottingham. - have car will travel. > > See you somewhere in that parallel Universe. > > Mark > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Aug 8 12:00:35 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 12:00:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Arin Komins wrote: => => hey....and what's wrong with pine? I know...I can go back to using mail! => or change mail.local to cat output directly to /dev/null! save the => middleman. Laugh all you like, but I have read my e-mail on occasion using "more /usr/spool/mail/paul". (Normally, I'm more sensible and use Pine.) And, oddly enough, some of my BOC-L e-mail *is* forwarded automatically to /dev/null for later perusal... :-) => Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From StevenTice at AOL.COM Wed Aug 8 12:09:13 2001 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 12:09:13 EDT Subject: BOC: Let's Get Imaginos Remastered Message-ID: In a message dated 08/08/2001 9:12:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > More questions: What might the extra tracks be? I'd love to hear the full > demos of Half Life Time, Overture, The Girl Love Made Blind, and Gil Blanco > County. Does Al own the demos, or does Sony own them? Is there any more > unreleased material that would make a great bonus track? > > Brian Half Life Time is the only one that's actually in demo form...the rest are completed tracks that were omitted when Imaginos was finally released. Overture was never actually recorded until the Brain Surgeons did it, but, in addition to Girl and Gil Blanco, there's the a cappella version of Magna of Illusion and the instrumental version of BOC (which I still think of as Subhuman. :-). Regardless, I'm certainly hoping to see all of these tracks if they do remaster Imaginos. Unfortunately, I fear the Half Life Time demo might be omitted because Bolle is not very fond of it... I, however, love it, and the lyrics are steeped in Imaginos lore. Steven Tice Calliope Comics 519 Valentine Hill Road Bellefonte, PA 16823 814-355-9830 Musings Online: www.geocities.com/calliopecomics/index.html From spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM Wed Aug 8 12:33:14 2001 From: spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM (Space Wreck) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:33:14 -0700 Subject: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- Paul Mather wrote: > Laugh all you like, but I have read my e-mail on occasion using "more > /usr/spool/mail/paul". (Normally, I'm more sensible and use Pine.) That's how I usually read other people's mail!! ;-) MWood NP: Ozric Tentacles - _Tantric Obstacles/Erpsongs_ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Wed Aug 8 12:45:31 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 12:45:31 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterthought and confusion Message-ID: Against my better judgment I will try, to save you the bother. The site referred to has a series of 7 or 8 photographs of the corpse of a murder victim. Ignore the crap about alien dissection. All the pix are of the one body, male, and the individual obviously was sexually abused, burned, and stabbed/shot. Some degree of putrefaction is probably present. These pictures are pretty foul. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:28:20 -0500, Laura Waesche wrote: >Can someone describe the pictures? I can't access them right now from this server. My imagination can be a lot worse, so I need something to bring it into perspective. From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Aug 8 12:49:19 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 12:49:19 -0400 Subject: BOC: Let's Get Imaginos Remastered In-Reply-To: <23.f94e87a.28a2be29@aol.com> Message-ID: Steven wrote: > Unfortunately, I fear the Half Life Time demo > might be omitted because Bolle is not very fond of it... I, however, love > it, and the lyrics are steeped in Imaginos lore. Thanks for the info, Steven. As far as the unreleased material goes, I can't see Legacy releasing all but one tune, even if it isn't Bolle's favorite. Though I suppose Legacy may not be able to release everything due to the running time limitations of the CD. I guess there's just going to have to be a double CD remaster then--with liner notes from Al and Sandy Pearlman, and an Imaginos short story by Steven King. And while they're at it, they can create Pearlman's proposed Imaginos video game, adding it, an Imaginos graphic novel, and a Brain Surgeons Imaginos covers EP along with the remaster into a nifty box set. Signed by every musician on the album, of course. ;-) A guy can wish, can't he? Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated semi-occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html > Steven Tice > Calliope Comics > 519 Valentine Hill Road > Bellefonte, PA 16823 > 814-355-9830 > Musings Online: HREF="http://www.geocities.com/calliopecomics/index.html">www.geocities.com/ca > lliopecomics/index.html From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Aug 8 13:46:56 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 13:46:56 EDT Subject: OFF!! NOT music! and NOT 'entertainment'! NO FUN AT ALL! Warning!! Message-ID: In a message dated 8/8/01 12:45:55 PM, moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK writes: << These pictures are pretty foul. >> ======= i had a [serbian] lady friend, currently in Barcelona [last i knew], with very passionate feelings about NATO's destruction of Yugoslavia. she sent me the address [among others] of a place which revealed the after-effects of one particular bombing raid..... pictures of dead little children. their bodies split open. and i cried. for all the good it did them or Yugoslavia or me. ===== i dont know what mike coleman got himself in trouble with yesterday. i doubt he anticipated the backlash. a mistake on his part, whatever his intentions were. and i speak as no stranger to mistakes and backlashes at BOC-L. wanna take it a little further? no stranger to real life gore, either. ... 7/7/75: so there i was, in shock and rapidly bleeding to death in my front yard with a ruined left arm, having made the unfortunate 'mistake' of punching out the glass storm door... the hospital in town was 9 or 10 miles away, and the hospital on the miltary base, 17 miles away. as i got into the ambulance, my military officer father said 'take him to the hospital at [the military base]' and the guy driving the ambulance told him "he'll be dead before we get there." we went to the hospital in town. being in shock and apparently dying doesnt mean i was deaf.... ==== i tell you, BOC-L is [expletive] tinkertoys compared to what transpires in the real world. as well it should be. that's why we're all here, aint it? ==== i dont need to see those pictures. i've seen enough. ==== t-minus less than 2 days and i'll be gone. pray for a good harvest "<>" From achad13 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 8 13:58:48 2001 From: achad13 at HOTMAIL.COM (dave evans) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:58:48 +0100 Subject: Huw bashing Message-ID: it's easy to give opinions of various members of HW, and my, haven't there been a lot...... which is my point-: given that the "revolving door policy" for personnel seems to have slowed in recent years we might assume that Huw is going to be around for a while; or he might leave/get fired during the next gig; so be happy he is back for now, to add his sound to the shows, for he may be gone tomorrow (as might all but one of the rest....) It is this kind of fluidity that makes the Hawks the truly great band they are; an old member can turn up for one gig and fit in almost seamlessly; such is the vibe, and the ability of the musicians. It seems to me that the only former members who might not get back in for a gig or two are the dead ones and anyone with the surname "Baker".... which means that every gig can be a real surprise.... I recall a christmas show at the Rainbow in London (81, I think), when Bob Calvert, Nik and Mike Moorcock all showed up and it was a completely different set to the autumn tour which had finished only a few weeks before...... there simply are not other bands who can do that kind of thing live, most of the rest just go for lowest common denominator; play the hits, have an audeince participation bit, do a drum solo and rake in the merchandising money. Personally I like to see new stuff, not the repeats; and for me "new stuff" is an ever-changing lineup of HW; Huw playing with Jerry, Dave etc; with technology that wasn't around when he was last with the Hawks, and songs that he's not played live before. just my opinion dave From StevenTice at AOL.COM Wed Aug 8 16:05:23 2001 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:05:23 EDT Subject: BOC: Let's Get Imaginos Remastered Message-ID: In a message dated 08/08/2001 12:48:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > Steven wrote: > > Unfortunately, I fear the Half Life Time demo > > might be omitted because Bolle is not very fond of it... I, however, love > > it, and the lyrics are steeped in Imaginos lore. > > Thanks for the info, Steven. As far as the unreleased material goes, I can't > see Legacy releasing all but one tune, even if it isn't Bolle's favorite. > Though I suppose Legacy may not be able to release everything due to the > running time limitations of the CD. > > I guess there's just going to have to be a double CD remaster then--with > liner notes from Al and Sandy Pearlman, and an Imaginos short story by > Steven King. And while they're at it, they can create Pearlman's proposed > Imaginos video game, adding it, an Imaginos graphic novel, and a Brain > Surgeons Imaginos covers EP along with the remaster into a nifty box set. > > Signed by every musician on the album, of course. ;-) > > A guy can wish, can't he? > Brian > > When you're wishing, why aim low, eh? :-) At one point I actually discussed the comic book/graphic novel project with Pearlman on the phone...unfortunately, the comic biz took a serious downturn and has yet to recover. Although I guess it's appropriate for any Imaginos-related project to take years to finally come to fruition, in a way... Steven Tice Calliope Comics 519 Valentine Hill Road Bellefonte, PA 16823 814-355-9830 Musings Online: www.geocities.com/calliopecomics/index.html From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Aug 8 17:37:20 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 22:37:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Moonglum > > Jill / anyone else: if you're going to canterbury and want to meet up, how > about wearing your nickname from boc-l or the IRC channel. mine will say > "mooongluum" (IRC chat channel name). laser printer labels (avery L7163) > are perfect for the job! I confess to be not too keen on wandering round a music festival with a printer label on me (what was the Prisoner comment - "I will not be punched, filed, numbered, labelled..." however I've still got the badge that Mike B made for the Astoria gig so I'll wear that and a NetHawks sweatshirt if the weather is cold enough. Otherwise just look out for the small white haired elderly lady with glasses 8-)) cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Wed Aug 8 17:38:49 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (jean-charles moriaud) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 23:38:49 +0200 Subject: [BOC] COTHM: re-WOW Message-ID: After days of continuous listening of COTHM in my car, I cant say that the first impression was the right one: this is a great BOC album. This is the true BOC, with the BOC spirit. I went back to HF, that I had not listened to for more that a year now: the difference is incredible and crual. I will probably leave HF back into my rack, next to Imaginos and RBN, and never listen to it anymore! COTHM is superb, with only two weak tunes imho: I just like to be bad and Here comes that feeling. The rest has nearly all what make good BOC songs for me. They are complex, the bass line are original, different melodies for the guitar and the voice, rythm breaks... And by the way, applause for the bass. Danny Miranda did a very nice job, where in HF you can hardly hear the bass. My 2 cents. JCMoriaud _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Aug 8 18:06:48 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:06:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > > Hey, > > Everything is cool > > Everything is sweet > > Everything is everything! > > Peace! > > Elric of Melnibone or i'll whip out stormbringer and drink your soul! tim From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Wed Aug 8 18:18:07 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:18:07 -0400 Subject: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook Message-ID: From: "Paul Mather" > => > => hey....and what's wrong with pine? I know...I can go back to using mail! > => or change mail.local to cat output directly to /dev/null! save the > => middleman. > > Laugh all you like, but I have read my e-mail on occasion using "more > /usr/spool/mail/paul". (Normally, I'm more sensible and use Pine.) I vote for less :) Jerry From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Aug 8 19:02:28 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 19:02:28 -0400 Subject: BRAIN/BOC: concert update Message-ID: Check out www.cellsum.com under "shows" to see when the David Roter method will be back, poundin' the boards at Arlene's Grocery. The venue looks very hep from what i saw of it on the live video from days gone by. so Run MF Run to your web browsers!:) I gotta buy They Made Me now... cool. with the other vampires too tired to sleep, Jason From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Aug 8 18:46:03 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:46:03 EDT Subject: BOC: Let's Get Imaginos Remastered Message-ID: In a message dated 8/8/01 8:12:18 AM US Eastern Standard Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > OK I've done my patriotic duty, but are we sure it isn't already Legacy's > intention to release Imaginos along with the other BOC albums? I haven't > heard anything concrete one way or the other. > Me either, but at least we let 'em know what we want!!!!! > More questions: What might the extra tracks be? I'd love to hear the full > demos of Half Life Time, Overture, The Girl Love Made Blind, and Gil Blanco > County. Does Al own the demos, or does Sony own them? Is there any more > unreleased material that would make a great bonus track? > > > I have no idea who owns what. I vote they cram as many demos on as they can. Joe From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Aug 8 18:48:46 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:48:46 EDT Subject: BOC: Let's Get Imaginos Remastered Message-ID: In a message dated 8/8/01 11:48:46 AM US Eastern Standard Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > I guess there's just going to have to be a double CD remaster then--with > liner notes from Al and Sandy Pearlman, and an Imaginos short story by > Steven King. And while they're at it, they can create Pearlman's proposed > Imaginos video game, adding it, an Imaginos graphic novel, and a Brain > Surgeons Imaginos covers EP along with the remaster into a nifty box set. > > Signed by every musician on the album, of course. ;-) > > Now yer talking!! Joe From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Wed Aug 8 19:08:10 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 00:08:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: Ok we'll look for you! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Strobridge To: Sent: 08 August 2001 22:37 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Moonglum > > > > Jill / anyone else: if you're going to canterbury and want to meet up, > how > > about wearing your nickname from boc-l or the IRC channel. mine will > say > > "mooongluum" (IRC chat channel name). laser printer labels (avery > L7163) > > are perfect for the job! > > I confess to be not too keen on wandering round a music festival with a > printer label on me (what was the Prisoner comment - "I will not be > punched, filed, numbered, labelled..." > however I've still got the badge that Mike B made for the Astoria gig so > I'll wear that and a NetHawks sweatshirt if the weather is cold enough. > Otherwise just look out for the small white haired elderly lady with > glasses 8-)) > cheers > jill > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Aug 9 02:19:22 2001 From: moodicus at EARTHLINK.NET (Steve Moody) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 23:19:22 -0700 Subject: Huw rejoins Message-ID: Add me to the multitude of Hawk fans who believe Huw belongs in the Hawkwind lineup. Now lets get Simon House playing keyboards again ( my personal instrument and Mr. House is one of my favorite influences though I am so unworthy) and get ready for some of greatest music ever created!!!! Steve the Moonman ----- Original Message ----- From: Inflatable Ingrid To: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 6:20 AM Subject: Re: Huw rejoins > well said Bill & I agree with you 100% there!!! > MwB > > > I happen to like Dragons and Fables, Sleep of A Thousand Tears and Sword > of > > the East. Good guitar stuff. And the album "This Is Hawkwind - Do Not > Panic" > > is great. > > A lot of fans discovered Hawkwind during Huw's time with them in the > > eighties, with Levitation (the album) being their initiation. > > Anyway, whose to say that Huw's involvement with them will be similar to > the > > 80's. Hawkwind have this knack of moving musically forward. > > > > Cheers > > Bill From robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK Thu Aug 9 04:56:58 2001 From: robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK (Stuckey, Robert) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:56:58 +0100 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: From: Inflatable Ingrid > >THREE MIGHTY CHEERS FOR THE RETURN OF > >HUW Lloyd LANGTON!!!!!!!!!! > >WHOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!!! >WHHHOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!! >WHHHOOOO HOOOOOOOOO! > >Huw kicks ass !!! >Huw Rocks!!!! >I want Huw back!!!! >and now he is!!!!! > Wow.....how heavy metal do you want to get?....typical Huw fan!! ;-) (or is this irony??) Actually I was listening to Levitation (the album) on the way to work this morning and thought that rather than metal, Huw made them sound a bit Pink Floyd-ey. Now, that drummer Ginger-someone, he was class I'd love to see him back in Hawkwind!!! lol cheers - Rob From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Aug 9 05:13:50 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:13:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit In-Reply-To: <000e01c12052$c97241c0$f127883e@jds> Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Jill Strobridge wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Moonglum > > > > Jill / anyone else: if you're going to canterbury and want to meet up, > how > > about wearing your nickname from boc-l or the IRC channel. mine will > say > > "mooongluum" (IRC chat channel name). laser printer labels (avery > L7163) > > are perfect for the job! > > I confess to be not too keen on wandering round a music festival with a > printer label on me (what was the Prisoner comment - "I will not be > punched, filed, numbered, labelled..." :) I now have visions of a remake starring you, Jill. Hurray! (Can I be the girl who was death? That's the only episode that ever made sense and she's got pretty clothes ) > however I've still got the badge that Mike B made for the Astoria gig so > I'll wear that and a NetHawks sweatshirt if the weather is cold enough. > Otherwise just look out for the small white haired elderly lady with > glasses 8-)) We'll (me, Jon Jarrett and Benedict Jarrett) be the couple involving a fairly staid looking gentleman (that's Jon), a toddler who we're trying to get to say 'Hawkwind' (he's said it once, he can say it again) and a woman in an unbelievably short dress and poncy hat (that's me). If I get my act together in time, we'll also ahve a short curvy dark haired woman, ripe for corruption, with us :) Kirsten -- Kirsten Procter ghoti NP: Porcupine Tree - Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Aug 9 05:22:51 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 17:22:51 +0800 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: Rob wrote Now, that drummer Ginger-someone, he was class I'd love > to see him back in Hawkwind!!! lol Harvey would like that From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Aug 9 06:22:40 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 05:22:40 -0500 Subject: OFF!! NOT music! and NOT 'entertainment'! NO FUN AT ALL! Warn ing!! Message-ID: When I was 7 years old I had a tv antenae shoved into my eyesocket. We had just had a tornado and our tv antenae was blown down. My father built a new one in the dining room. I came running through the house and BAM, right into my eye. I didn't lose my eye but it went right through my eyelid and into my eyesocket. Sometimes I have trouble seeing things. Yugoslavia is a really bad thing. I lived in Northern Ireland for 6 years. I saw people blown apart and shot dead. My mother was hurt really bad when the IRA blew up a pub she was in with no warning. I was a little boy and I thought I had lost my mom. The sad thing was is she had friends in the IRA. I've had knives stuck to my throat by boot boys. I still remember them asking me if I was catholic or protestant. Being a child I had no idea. Also being an american, they let me go. I think if I had answered wrong they would have stabbed me. We got jumped quite a bit. I could go on and on. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:47 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF!! NOT music! and NOT 'entertainment'! NO FUN AT ALL! Warning!! In a message dated 8/8/01 12:45:55 PM, moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK writes: << These pictures are pretty foul. >> ======= i had a [serbian] lady friend, currently in Barcelona [last i knew], with very passionate feelings about NATO's destruction of Yugoslavia. she sent me the address [among others] of a place which revealed the after-effects of one particular bombing raid..... pictures of dead little children. their bodies split open. and i cried. for all the good it did them or Yugoslavia or me. ===== i dont know what mike coleman got himself in trouble with yesterday. i doubt he anticipated the backlash. a mistake on his part, whatever his intentions were. and i speak as no stranger to mistakes and backlashes at BOC-L. wanna take it a little further? no stranger to real life gore, either. ... 7/7/75: so there i was, in shock and rapidly bleeding to death in my front yard with a ruined left arm, having made the unfortunate 'mistake' of punching out the glass storm door... the hospital in town was 9 or 10 miles away, and the hospital on the miltary base, 17 miles away. as i got into the ambulance, my military officer father said 'take him to the hospital at [the military base]' and the guy driving the ambulance told him "he'll be dead before we get there." we went to the hospital in town. being in shock and apparently dying doesnt mean i was deaf.... ==== i tell you, BOC-L is [expletive] tinkertoys compared to what transpires in the real world. as well it should be. that's why we're all here, aint it? ==== i dont need to see those pictures. i've seen enough. ==== t-minus less than 2 days and i'll be gone. pray for a good harvest "<>" From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Aug 9 06:28:57 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 06:28:57 -0400 Subject: Huw Rejoins...& so does ginger Message-ID: Stuckey, Robert wrote: > > From: Inflatable Ingrid > > > >THREE MIGHTY CHEERS FOR THE RETURN OF > > > >HUW Lloyd LANGTON!!!!!!!!!! > > > >WHOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!!! > >WHHHOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!! > >WHHHOOOO HOOOOOOOOO! > > > >Huw kicks ass !!! > >Huw Rocks!!!! > >I want Huw back!!!! > >and now he is!!!!! > > > > Wow.....how heavy metal do you want to get?....typical Huw fan!! ;-) > > (or is this irony??) > > Actually I was listening to Levitation (the album) on the way to work > this > morning and thought that rather than metal, Huw made them sound a bit > Pink Floyd-ey. Now, that drummer Ginger-someone, he was class I'd love > to see him back in Hawkwind!!! lol > > cheers - Rob Ginger...yes...can't wait to hear the next live album;all those classics such as Psychedelic Toad, Silver Toad, Toad Pollution, Master of the Toad,and of course Assassins of Toad :-) tim From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Aug 9 06:35:09 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 05:35:09 -0500 Subject: Huw Rejoins...& so does ginger Message-ID: Maybe a few tracks from Chronicles of the Black toad, In search of toad, or Hall of the mountain toad!!! Uff Da, STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 5:29 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins...& so does ginger Stuckey, Robert wrote: > > From: Inflatable Ingrid > > > >THREE MIGHTY CHEERS FOR THE RETURN OF > > > >HUW Lloyd LANGTON!!!!!!!!!! > > > >WHOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!!! > >WHHHOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!! > >WHHHOOOO HOOOOOOOOO! > > > >Huw kicks ass !!! > >Huw Rocks!!!! > >I want Huw back!!!! > >and now he is!!!!! > > > > Wow.....how heavy metal do you want to get?....typical Huw fan!! ;-) > > (or is this irony??) > > Actually I was listening to Levitation (the album) on the way to work > this > morning and thought that rather than metal, Huw made them sound a bit > Pink Floyd-ey. Now, that drummer Ginger-someone, he was class I'd love > to see him back in Hawkwind!!! lol > > cheers - Rob Ginger...yes...can't wait to hear the next live album;all those classics such as Psychedelic Toad, Silver Toad, Toad Pollution, Master of the Toad,and of course Assassins of Toad :-) tim From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Aug 9 06:40:13 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 06:40:13 -0400 Subject: remaster reviews Message-ID: some reviews of AoF,ST,BOC,T&M. see them at tim From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 9 07:47:30 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:47:30 EDT Subject: [BOC] COTHM: re-WOW In-Reply-To: <004b01c12052$84436160$012de4d5@bureau> Message-ID: On 8 Aug 2001, at 23:38, jean-charles moriaud wrote: > I went back to HF, that I had not listened to for more that a year > now: the difference is incredible and crual. I will probably leave HF > back into my rack, next to Imaginos and RBN, and never listen to it > anymore! > 2 that I don't listen to much either. HF is just plain weak, albeit three are 2 great songs on it: SYiB and HM. Imaginos is a great album, but it isn't a B?C album. In fact, apart from Al, B?C is hardly on it at all. So, illogically, in my anger with Columbia, I've sort of shunned that one... > COTHM is superb, with only two weak tunes imho: I just like to be bad > and Here comes that feeling. > Gotta disagree about HCTF. It is very much a pop song, but a truly great one. I can understand why a true B?C fan would dismiss it. Instead, I'd substitute OotD, which is tied with IJLtBB as worst song on CotHM... > And by the way, applause for the bass. Danny Miranda did a very nice > job, where in HF you can hardly hear the bass. > Well, DM doesn't play on HF! Hopefully, you'll get a chance to see DM live, then you'll really be impressed. Looking at the tour dates, you may stand a better chance of seeing B?C than I do in the near future. I see B?C is mainly playing those horrible festival shows, and hardly any bars these days. Too bad for me, but at least the band will be making some serious money at those shows--they deserve it! theo From tgn at GATE.NET Thu Aug 9 08:56:10 2001 From: tgn at GATE.NET (Tim Northrup) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 08:56:10 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bouchard, Dunaway and Smith performance in Hollywood ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This was included in a post on the Alice Cooper Group mailing list (acg at yahoogroups.com). B,D&S performed at The Whiskey in Hollywood, along with several other bands, as part of the Glen Buxton Memorial Weekend held anually to remember the late founding member of the ACG. -- Tim > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:19:18 -0500 > From: "Bryan Erickson" > Subject: GBMW Report - The Whiskey... > > ... > Next up was the debut performance of Bouchard, Dunaway and Smith > (although they had played Frightvision in Cleveland under the name > of ex-name of "Eyescream", which they found out is used already by > another existing band somewhere.) Seeing Dennis Dunaway on bass > together with Neal Smith on drums is something very special! And > former Blue Oyster Cult (founding) member Joe Bouchard to boot, is > great. They played all originals from their upcoming album "Back > to Hell". During the last song or two, Dennis' teenage daughters > took to the stage to sing background vocals. Then before the last > song, they introduced BOC official site webmaster Bolle Gregmar > out to play cowbell. The song was BOC's "Don't Fear the Reaper" > and Joe spoofed the Saturday Night Live spoof on BOC by yelling > "more cowbell!" near the end. Very very funny if you're familiar > with the SNL skit on BOC recording DFTR with a guy on cowbell, > where the producer keeps interrupting the band to demand "MORE > COWBELL!" If you ever get the chance to see BDS, do it. The > original tunes work well live. > ... From nick at NETPHD.NET Thu Aug 9 09:35:22 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:35:22 -0400 Subject: [BOC] COTHM: re-WOW In-Reply-To: <004b01c12052$84436160$012de4d5@bureau> Message-ID: Quoting jean-charles moriaud : > After days of continuous listening of COTHM in my car, I cant say that > the > first impression was the right one: this is a great BOC album. This is > the > true BOC, with the BOC spirit. > The rest has nearly all what make good BOC songs for me. They are > complex, > the bass line are original, different melodies for the guitar and the > voice, > rythm breaks... I agree with a lot of what you\'re saying, although I\'m not sure this is a \"true BOC\" album, in the classic sense. What it is, however, is a damn fine collection of rock and roll songs, which are indeed more complex than they\'re getting credit for. I\'m more than pleased and more than satisfied with what BOC has given us this time around. It\'s a lot like Lynyrd Skynyrd. You can bitch all day and night about how the Skynyrd of the past 12 years is not the \"real\" Skynyrd. . . and you\'re right. But that doesn\'t take away from the fact that they\'ve been able to come up with a few really excellent tunes. Especially \"The Last Rebel\", which I think is one of the best songs to EVER come out under the Skynyrd name. BOC is not the same animal it was when it hooked most of us. But the spirit is there and the quality of the work is high. For me, they\'ve more than done their jobs. As somebody said a while back while responding to someone else\'s criticism of the album. . . \"I\'m glad I like it.\" > And by the way, applause for the bass. Danny Miranda did a very nice > job, > where in HF you can hardly hear the bass. I agree. If there are anymore BOC studio albums in the future, I\'m hoping Danny AND Bobby will be on them. (--Unless of course, there\'s a reconciliation with the Brothers Bouchard. One can dream. . .) --Nick From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Aug 9 10:07:54 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:37:54 +0930 Subject: OFF: Re: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: > Inflatable Ingrid wrote: > > > > Hey, > > > > Everything is cool > > > > Everything is sweet > > > > Everything is everything! > > > > Peace! > > > > Elric of Melnibone > > > or i'll whip out stormbringer > and drink your soul! > tim yup! :) From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Aug 9 10:09:39 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:09:39 EDT Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: In a message dated 8/7/2001 3:41:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR writes: << This is not only stupid, but a true scandal. I am missing words in english to discribe this. >> Try watching what your daughter reads! Here's an english word for ya.....DICKHEAD Have a nice day DICKHEAD Best regards, Bill Stewart From makila at IKI.FI Thu Aug 9 10:32:01 2001 From: makila at IKI.FI (Niko Makila) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 17:32:01 +0300 Subject: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Paul Mather wrote: > On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Arin Komins wrote: > > => > And, oddly enough, some of my BOC-L e-mail *is* forwarded automatically > to /dev/null for later perusal... :-) Actually it's quite surprising that no-one's implemented the /dev/nearlynull device for some of the free Unices. You know the /dev/null where you can get *some* data back... It would be great for mail filtering. > => //niko ObBOC-L: The remasters are C00L! ObNowPlaying: Steve Kimock Band, 4-12-01. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Aug 9 17:45:36 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:45:36 -0600 Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dickhead translation-? D=definately I=into C=cult K-kind (of) H=human E=enlightenment A=and D=demagoguery maybe??? this is a message of love..... we can fight next week time to gather round and feel rosey it's hot all over the states- m c From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Thu Aug 9 16:43:20 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (jean-charles moriaud) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 22:43:20 +0200 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Stewart" To: > Try watching what your daughter reads! Here's an english word for > ya.....DICKHEAD > > Have a nice day DICKHEAD Wow! This is what I call eloquence! But too bad, I knew already that word. And even more descriptive ones that only apply to you! Pauvre connard! JCMoriaud _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Aug 9 18:07:22 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:07:22 -0600 Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: <006601c12113$f0691bc0$d32de4d5@bureau> Message-ID: Dear JC!!!! I am hoping maybe we can do some music trades in future also, if you can find me some nice French vinyl pressings of Hawkwind records, I will pay a lot for these I can also find a lot of rare Hawkwind items, and soon I will be back to trading etc,!!!!! I am excited about the future now, and I DO encourage everyone to be cool me too!!! meaning "get off that computer Mikey, and make some people happy" I know I know you've heard it before!!! PEACE JC!!!! I liked the link for it's "shock" but NOT NOT NOT for kids, and I TOTALLT DIDN'T THINK OF THAT!!! you already know that I APOLIGIZED ABSOLUTELY FOR THAT!!!! LOVE!!!! Mike c From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Aug 9 17:20:17 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 17:20:17 EDT Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: In a message dated 8/9/2001 4:50:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR writes: << But too bad, I knew already that word. And even more descriptive ones that only apply to you! >> You must stop talking to my wife! luv and kisses b From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Thu Aug 9 17:21:53 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (jean-charles moriaud) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:21:53 +0200 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: Ok, that's over. I would have stopped this thread, but I was shocked to be insulted by this B.Stewart. My apologies to the list. I will get into HW and I'll try to find these french records for you. Don't worry, I am cool! As cool as people who love BOC most of the time are ;-) Best regards, Jean-Charles _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Aug 9 18:44:53 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:44:53 -0600 Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: <00b301c12119$50dacc60$d32de4d5@bureau> Message-ID: Hey JC Just one more while I cringed a little when I saw his post He is ONE HELL OF AN ENTERTAINING person, as I have met him, in 1998, and I suggest SERIOUSLY that a GREAT THING is MORE FRIENDS!!!!! MORE!!!! I thought his follow up about his wife was (for lack of a different word) !!!!! a perfect example of his sense of humor!!! Good One!!!!! Everbody is great all fans of these 2 bands are special- outright and this avenue is STILL much better than a terrible automobile traffic jam, even if it gets clogged with exhaust sometimes!!!!! Mike!! From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Aug 9 17:43:07 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 22:43:07 +0100 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: I thought we were all (even me) mature enough round here to be able to avoid calling each other "dickhead". *sigh* Can we not just agree to have differing opinions? We all have different points of view about what's funny, what's tasteless, and what's acceptable. That's what makes a discussion list like this one successful. I'm sure I've irritated the hell out of a load of people (sorry Chris W!!! :-) ) in the past, but I thought we were above petty abuse. FWIW - I like Huw, not keen on Ginger, like Chronicles of the Black Sword, dislike Culture Club singles, like bitter, dislike lager, love Huddersfield Town, hate Manchester United, like the Mets, dislike the Yankees, love IE, hate Netscape, and I'm sure everyone else disagrees with me. Don't call me a dickhead for it though! :-) Cheers, Rich. ObToon - "Bob Wilson - Anchorman", from HMHB CD single "Editor's Recommendation" From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Aug 9 17:49:48 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 17:49:48 EDT Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: In a message dated 8/9/2001 5:43:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK writes: << Don't call me a dickhead for it though! >> Dickhead! Sorry couldn't resist;) Bill DH Stewart From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Aug 9 18:33:17 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:33:17 -0400 Subject: OFF: HW: Harvest box set, cheap! Message-ID: Hi, Just stopped by my local Tower Records, and picked up one of the two copies they had of the 5-CD set ('Harvest Festival'). Includes Hawkwind-related acts such as Third Ear Band, Kevin Ayers, Pink Floyd, Edgar Broughton Band, Pretty Things, as well as tons of other (mostly - there's some ELO, too) cool artists ranging from Deep Purple and Roy Harper to Wire and the Saints, including a few rare/non-LP tracks (all previously-released material). At US$25 for 5 CD's plus a huge (120-page) hardbound book (it's not actually a box), it's a steal! The store had one more copy, which I'll pick up for the first person who sends me a private Email (assuming someone else doesn't buy it first). It's big & heavy, so shipping will definitely add a few $$. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Aug 9 18:41:31 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:41:31 EDT Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: In a message dated 8/9/2001 5:29:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR writes: << Ok, that's over. I would have stopped this thread, but I was shocked to be insulted by this B.Stewart. >> I was insulting Coleman, actually. Luv ya mikey! You to JC! It's the HEAT I tells ya...the HEAT! Luv Kisses and Handjobs Bill From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Aug 9 19:56:11 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 17:56:11 -0600 Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Luv Kisses and Handjobs" Bill now Bill, you know how easily I get excited, and it IS too hot to get those chest-pains right now..... need proper exercise first before I over exert myself.... 'Tee Hee' m c ps- I'll take the remark, it belongs on me anyway (temporarily) Until I get the guitar, the stack, and that 'cool' Mantas "getup"..... Then I can scream at the audience about my mistakes....like he did... From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 9 15:01:24 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 20:01:24 +0100 Subject: Huw and Sunday Message-ID: Hi, Sadly CD Services will NOT be present with a stand at the event this Sunday in Blackpool, whihc is now even more of a shame as playing with Nik, Huw and crew will be Mick Slattery and Harvey Bainbridge so it's going to be some line-up that's for sure. As to the double '2001' CD from last year's concerts, we will have stock of that at CDS on Tuesday or Wednesday so any orders will be immediately despatched the same day. Have fun those that go and do let us know what it was like, Sorry to be missing you, Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:22 AM Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > Rob wrote > Now, that drummer Ginger-someone, he was class I'd love > > to see him back in Hawkwind!!! lol > > Harvey would like that From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 9 15:03:01 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 20:03:01 +0100 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: errrr......is this really called for......don't let's sink to this level per-leese. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Stewart" To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 3:09 PM Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > In a message dated 8/7/2001 3:41:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR writes: > > << This is not only stupid, but a true scandal. I am missing words in english > to discribe this. >> > > Try watching what your daughter reads! Here's an english word for > ya.....DICKHEAD > > Have a nice day DICKHEAD > > Best regards, > Bill Stewart From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 9 19:36:33 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:36:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: HW: Harvest box set, cheap! Message-ID: 25 dollars!!!!!!!!!! Jeez - that's less than the dealer cost price ex-VAT over here - second only to the other guy's Undisclosed Files Metal Shield as bargain shop purchase of the year to date, methinks. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:33 PM Subject: OFF: HW: Harvest box set, cheap! > Hi, > > Just stopped by my local Tower Records, and picked up one of the two copies > they had of the 5-CD set ('Harvest Festival'). Includes Hawkwind-related > acts such as Third Ear Band, Kevin Ayers, Pink Floyd, Edgar Broughton Band, > Pretty Things, as well as tons of other (mostly - there's some ELO, too) > cool artists ranging from Deep Purple and Roy Harper to Wire and the > Saints, including a few rare/non-LP tracks (all previously-released > material). > > At US$25 for 5 CD's plus a huge (120-page) hardbound book (it's not > actually a box), it's a steal! The store had one more copy, which I'll > pick up for the first person who sends me a private Email (assuming someone > else doesn't buy it first). It's big & heavy, so shipping will definitely > add a few $$. > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Thu Aug 9 19:38:34 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:38:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: Well, I wasn't going to say this. I look like Blackadder 2. I will be with Bernard Bresslaw in Carry On Up The Khyber, Major Frank Winchester from M.A.S.H., and a cross between Tom Baker and Art Garfunkel. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kirsten Procter To: Sent: 09 August 2001 10:13 Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury exhibit > On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Jill Strobridge wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Moonglum > > > > > > Jill / anyone else: if you're going to canterbury and want to meet up, > > how > > > about wearing your nickname from boc-l or the IRC channel. mine will > > say > > > "mooongluum" (IRC chat channel name). laser printer labels (avery > > L7163) > > > are perfect for the job! > > > > I confess to be not too keen on wandering round a music festival with a > > printer label on me (what was the Prisoner comment - "I will not be > > punched, filed, numbered, labelled..." > :) I now have visions of a remake starring you, Jill. Hurray! (Can I be > the girl who was death? That's the only episode that ever made sense > and she's got pretty clothes ) > > > however I've still got the badge that Mike B made for the Astoria gig so > > I'll wear that and a NetHawks sweatshirt if the weather is cold enough. > > Otherwise just look out for the small white haired elderly lady with > > glasses 8-)) > > > We'll (me, Jon Jarrett and Benedict Jarrett) be the couple involving a > fairly staid looking gentleman (that's Jon), a toddler who we're trying > to get to say 'Hawkwind' (he's said it once, he can say it again) and a > woman in an unbelievably short dress and poncy hat (that's me). If I > get my act together in time, we'll also ahve a short curvy dark haired > woman, ripe for corruption, with us :) > > Kirsten > -- > Kirsten Procter ghoti > NP: Porcupine Tree - Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Aug 9 21:33:50 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:33:50 -0600 Subject: (OFF) afterforeverthoughts In-Reply-To: <000701c1212b$60d581c0$0997bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: More 'opinion' - Everyone on the list is great except me (but I am still out here hoping, one day...) With all these wild sounds bouncing around in many of our heads from these totally amazing bands, many of us have developed these "attitudes" as a result... The mudflingin' is all part of the entertainment at the circus, (and) just has to be kept in check here and there, and it looks like today went down not too badly..... Look forward to next weeks chronicle of the "ruffling feathers" till then you are all free to locomote about and sing and dance and tell stories and frolic in eachother's company.....the weekend draws closer.....( I just had to ask my mom what day it was, to make sure I can make that one fly) peace Mike "Stickerlabel" From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Aug 9 21:33:02 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 21:33:02 -0400 Subject: OFF: one band's opinion of their (former?) label Message-ID: Obviously not Metallica! Taken from ... http://www.cowboyjunkies.com/main.html "Cowboy Junkies - Greatest Hits Sometime this month RCA/BMG will be releasing a "greatest hits" compilation. We have absolutely nothing to do with this release. We have not been consulted about any details, from the track selection to the artwork, and were not even given the courtesy of a phone call to let us know that this release was being scheduled. This release is a huge insult to us and we ask that if you are a fan of the band that you please don't buy it. All of the tracks on this compilation are available on our other studio releases, which are available through the Junk Store. If you must have these specific tracks in this specific order then: find them on the Internet, download them for free and burn them on to a CD....you have our blessing." -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Thu Aug 9 23:53:10 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:53:10 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterforeverthoughts Message-ID: > With all these wild sounds bouncing around in many of our heads from these >totally amazing bands, many of us have developed these "attitudes" as a >result... Oh yeah, that's right... it's all Hawkwind's & BOC's fault... :-) Man, what a responsibility for our dear Al :-) Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From nycademon at HOME.COM Fri Aug 10 00:02:31 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 22:02:31 -0600 Subject: (OFF) afterforeverthoughts In-Reply-To: <200108100353.XAA17681@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: No, it's Steve Swann's fault! It has to be!!! :-) Guido -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Alex S. Garcia Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:53 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: (OFF) afterforeverthoughts > With all these wild sounds bouncing around in many of our heads from these >totally amazing bands, many of us have developed these "attitudes" as a >result... Oh yeah, that's right... it's all Hawkwind's & BOC's fault... :-) Man, what a responsibility for our dear Al :-) Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Aug 10 01:45:07 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:45:07 -0600 Subject: (OFF) afterforeverthoughts In-Reply-To: <200108100353.XAA17681@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: <> <> Actually it's all Hawkwind's fault (since it's really MY fault in reality), which comming from me is the highest compliment,,,(to Hawkwind) I haven't heard a BOC record since the one with "Blake Blade" but I must admit that seeing all the entusiastic BOC reports lately, and getting VERY KIND personal mail from their fans has refired my interest in them.... I was planning to buy something shortly,....because of the fans here... The guy that responded to JC M's original post about them had so many shortened song codes in it, it read like a rubic's cube of computer language....I had a GREAT TIME not having A CLUE what was being discussed, I really did!!! m c From gerald.whitworth at PARTHUS.COM Fri Aug 10 06:45:06 2001 From: gerald.whitworth at PARTHUS.COM (Gerald Whitworth) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:45:06 +0100 Subject: Mail sorting with Outlook Message-ID: Use the rules wizard Tools Rules Wizard New >From BOC to folder etc you should end up with a rule of the form Apply this rule after the message arrives sent to BOC-L at LISTSERVE.SPC.EDU move it to the folder except if sent directly to me This is what I use and it does work Regards, space is nothing but truth or lie Gerry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Gerald Whitworth Parthus (UK) Ltd Mansard Close, Westgate, Northampton, NN5 5DL, UK t: +44 (0)1604 586738 f: +44 (0)1604 585599 e: gerald.whitworth at parthus.com i: www.parthus.com Parthus - Powering the Mobile Internet (This email should be considered as personal and does not necessarily reflect the views of Parthus Technologies or any other of its employees or officers.) -----Original Message----- From: Guido N. Vacano [mailto:nycademon at HOME.COM] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:07 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Mail sorting with Outlook Hello-- Can anyone tell me how the heck I can get Outlook 2000 to move boc-l email to a boc-l folder? I just got hit with 70 emails! :-) Thanks, Guido From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Aug 10 07:34:24 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:34:24 EDT Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: <006601c12113$f0691bc0$d32de4d5@bureau> Message-ID: On 9 Aug 2001, at 22:43, jean-charles moriaud wrote: > > Wow! This is what I call eloquence! > > But too bad, I knew already that word. And even more descriptive ones > that only apply to you! > > Pauvre connard! > Hey, I know that one! Next time, tell 'em: Va ta faire foutre, eh? tj From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Fri Aug 10 07:48:34 2001 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (Jean-Charles Moriaud) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:48:34 +0200 Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: <3B738E7F.6070.1B011D@localhost> Message-ID: > Next time, tell 'em: > >Va ta faire foutre, eh? I am impressed by your french! ;-) In order to close that thread definitively, do you or anybody in this list know if BOC ever played a song called "Ballroom Blitz"? I saw it mentionned in a mp3 forum somewhere. Cheers, Jean-Charles Moriaud _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Fri Aug 10 08:41:59 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:41:59 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterforeverthoughts Message-ID: >The guy that responded to JC M's original post about them had so many >shortened song codes in it, it read like a rubic's cube of computer >language....I had a GREAT TIME not having A CLUE what was being discussed, >I really did!!! But, you see, that's precisely part of the effect BOC's having on us - so it IS also their fault :-) Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Aug 10 09:01:17 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:01:17 -0500 Subject: OFF: Simple Minds Alive & Kicking Message-ID: Blast from the past ... http://entertainment.msn.com/news/rolligstone/081001_simpleminds.asp From guttercat9 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 10 09:16:12 2001 From: guttercat9 at YAHOO.CO.UK (STEVE JOHNSON) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 06:16:12 -0700 Subject: Huw Rejoins In-Reply-To: <3B711965.569AEDAE@aol.com> Message-ID: iain ferguson wrote: >Hi >I hope I am able to eat my words, His guitar sound made the >band sound leaden and like an average heavy metal band. ( but only on CYM, Live >Chronicals and Black Sword, the earlier stuff was great and Sonic Attack is one >f my fav hawkwind albums). This made me laugh! "Average heavy metal band"???? Pick up 2 albums by an average heavy metal band, and they'll both sound the same. Not something that can be said of Hawkwind's output. C'mon Huw, Sock it to 'em! Steve. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Aug 10 09:32:36 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:32:36 +0100 Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: <000001c12192$63c10320$aeed3ed5@chnyolp006> Message-ID: I saw this on Gnutella and downloaded it out of curiosity. - it's a mistitled MP?. It's the Sweet. As usual. Cheers, Rich. > > > Next time, tell 'em: > > > >Va ta faire foutre, eh? > > I am impressed by your french! ;-) > > In order to close that thread definitively, do you or anybody in this > list know if BOC ever played a song called "Ballroom Blitz"? I saw it > mentionned in a mp3 forum somewhere. > > Cheers, Jean-Charles Moriaud > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From bert at APPRENTICEIS.COM Fri Aug 10 09:40:59 2001 From: bert at APPRENTICEIS.COM (Bert Edens) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:40:59 -0500 Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Feel fortunate... It could have been Krokus :-) - Bert At 14:32 8/10/01 +0100, you wrote: >I saw this on Gnutella and downloaded it out of curiosity. - it's a >mistitled MP?. It's the Sweet. As usual. > >Cheers, > >Rich. > > > > > > Next time, tell 'em: > > > > > >Va ta faire foutre, eh? > > > > I am impressed by your french! ;-) > > > > In order to close that thread definitively, do you or anybody in this > > list know if BOC ever played a song called "Ballroom Blitz"? I saw it > > mentionned in a mp3 forum somewhere. > > > > Cheers, Jean-Charles Moriaud From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Aug 10 09:52:04 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:52:04 +0100 Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010810084038.03afcec0@mail.apprenticeis.com> Message-ID: "K-R-O, K-U-S, Krokus have my home address!" Ahem. :-) Cheers, Rich. > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Bert Edens > Sent: 10 August 2001 14:41 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > > > Feel fortunate... It could have been Krokus :-) > > - Bert > > At 14:32 8/10/01 +0100, you wrote: > >I saw this on Gnutella and downloaded it out of curiosity. - it's a > >mistitled MP?. It's the Sweet. As usual. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Rich. > > > > > > > > > Next time, tell 'em: > > > > > > > >Va ta faire foutre, eh? > > > > > > I am impressed by your french! ;-) > > > > > > In order to close that thread definitively, do you or anybody in this > > > list know if BOC ever played a song called "Ballroom Blitz"? I saw it > > > mentionned in a mp3 forum somewhere. > > > > > > Cheers, Jean-Charles Moriaud > From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Fri Aug 10 10:13:51 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:13:51 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: From: "Jean-Charles Moriaud" > In order to close that thread definitively, do you or anybody in this > list know if BOC ever played a song called "Ballroom Blitz"? I saw it > mentionned in a mp3 forum somewhere. Sounds like Sweet - from the album Desolation Boulevard Jerry From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Fri Aug 10 11:35:24 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:35:24 -0400 Subject: OFF: Simple Minds Alive & Kicking Message-ID: Unfortunately the link failed but it dragged a query from deep in my memory, perhaps someone can confirm or deny. I remember (and I might be totally wrong) Simple Minds supported Hawkwind at a couple of London shows back in the late 70's or early 80's last century. Anybody got any idea? Mark On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:01:17 -0500, Karen Kusic wrote: >Blast from the past ... > >http://entertainment.msn.com/news/rolligstone/081001_simpleminds.asp From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Aug 10 11:55:39 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:55:39 -0500 Subject: OFF: Simple Minds Alive & Kicking Message-ID: Hi! Sorry about the bad link. Here's the correct one: http://entertainment.msn.com/news/rollingstone/081001_simpleminds.asp That's cool if there's a Hawkwind/Simple Minds connection! Karen Mark Von Bargen wrote: > > Unfortunately the link failed but it dragged a query from deep in my > memory, perhaps someone can confirm or deny. > > I remember (and I might be totally wrong) Simple Minds supported Hawkwind > at a couple of London shows back in the late 70's or early 80's last > century. Anybody got any idea? > > Mark > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:01:17 -0500, Karen Kusic wrote: > > >Blast from the past ... > > > >http://entertainment.msn.com/news/rolligstone/081001_simpleminds.asp From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Fri Aug 10 12:01:20 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:01:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: I'll be there with the Moongluum possy. Someone told me that I look a bit like Christopher Walken. Just look out for the guy with a bandaged head and a revolver pressed against the side of it. Alastair. On Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:13:50 +0100, Kirsten Procter wrote: >On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Jill Strobridge wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Moonglum >> > >> > Jill / anyone else: if you're going to canterbury and want to meet up, >> how >> > about wearing your nickname from boc-l or the IRC channel. mine will >> say >> > "mooongluum" (IRC chat channel name). laser printer labels (avery >> L7163) >> > are perfect for the job! >> >> I confess to be not too keen on wandering round a music festival with a >> printer label on me (what was the Prisoner comment - "I will not be >> punched, filed, numbered, labelled..." >:) I now have visions of a remake starring you, Jill. Hurray! (Can I be >the girl who was death? That's the only episode that ever made sense >and she's got pretty clothes ) > >> however I've still got the badge that Mike B made for the Astoria gig so >> I'll wear that and a NetHawks sweatshirt if the weather is cold enough. >> Otherwise just look out for the small white haired elderly lady with >> glasses 8-)) > > > We'll (me, Jon Jarrett and Benedict Jarrett) be the couple involving a >fairly staid looking gentleman (that's Jon), a toddler who we're trying >to get to say 'Hawkwind' (he's said it once, he can say it again) and a >woman in an unbelievably short dress and poncy hat (that's me). If I >get my act together in time, we'll also ahve a short curvy dark haired >woman, ripe for corruption, with us :) > > Kirsten >-- >Kirsten Procter ghoti >NP: Porcupine Tree - Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape From Moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Fri Aug 10 12:10:34 2001 From: Moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:10:34 -0400 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: No you don't. You are Major Charles Winchester from M.A.S.H. (not Frank, as I mistakenly typed in my drunkenness)! On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:01:20 -0400, Alastair Lee Sumner wrote: >I'll be there with the Moongluum possy. Someone told me that I look a bit >like Christopher Walken. Just look out for the guy with a bandaged head and >a revolver pressed against the side of it. > >Alastair. > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Aug 10 14:42:31 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:42:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: one band's opinion of their (former?) label Message-ID: total classic - I lurve the Junkies and was going to buy this but I'm not going to buy it now, fan or not - you can't support all the musicians all the the time, but you can, etc, etc. I hope it dies on a sunny day! Actually we tried this avoidance bit at CDS with a couple of the Hawkwind cheapo titles of ultra-rehashed tracks but the computer got the better of us and they ended up getting printed - but we did really want to boycott them - honest!!! Would've worked too, if Coleman hadn't bought the things............(just kiddin' Mike - love you really!!!) Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 2:33 AM Subject: OFF: one band's opinion of their (former?) label > > "Cowboy Junkies - Greatest Hits > Sometime this month RCA/BMG will be releasing a "greatest hits" > compilation. We have absolutely nothing to do with this release. We have > not been consulted about any details, from the track selection to the > artwork, and were not even given the courtesy of a ......... From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Aug 10 14:47:30 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:47:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: oooohhh matron!!!! in that case I'll go for the photo souvenir of the lady in the incredibly short dress, please...................no offence. Andy Garibaldi (who will, sadly, only be there in spirit - but my spirit looks great!!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moonglum" To: Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 12:38 AM Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury exhibit > Well, I wasn't going to say this. I look like Blackadder 2. I will be > with Bernard Bresslaw in Carry On Up The Khyber, Major Frank Winchester from > M.A.S.H., and a cross between Tom Baker and Art Garfunkel. > > > We'll (me, Jon Jarrett and Benedict Jarrett) be the couple involving a > > fairly staid looking gentleman (that's Jon), a toddler who we're trying > > to get to say 'Hawkwind' (he's said it once, he can say it again) and a > > woman in an unbelievably short dress and poncy hat (that's me). If I From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Aug 10 14:48:57 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:48:57 +0100 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: in which case, I suggest you leave - like NOW!!!! Run for the hills............ Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought > "K-R-O, K-U-S, Krokus have my home address!" > > Ahem. > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Aug 10 14:47:47 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:47:47 -0400 Subject: OFF: Simple Minds Alive & Kicking Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:55:39 -0500, Karen Kusic wrote: >That's cool if there's a Hawkwind/Simple Minds connection! Yeah, I'm not sure about that one. But there certainly are Hawkwind/New Wave connections via Andy Anderson/Cure and the fact that Mike Howlett of Gong produced the first Thompson Twins album ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Aug 10 15:06:55 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:06:55 -0400 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: I'm going, I'm aiming to get to the campsite Friday evening. I found this website concerning last years event, which has a few good pix of the festival site and should please any Gong fans. http://www.moss53.freeserve.co.uk/cant2000.htm It looks as if there is a strict curfew, I hope non of the other bands overrun! Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Aug 10 18:51:53 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:51:53 +0100 Subject: Ultima Thule *IS* Wind of Change Message-ID: better still, compare with Pink Floyd's 'Saucerful Of Secrets' track.........even more fun!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: Ultima Thule *IS* Wind of Change > I heard Tangerine Dream's Ultima Thule single for the first time last > night. Unless someone has slipped a demo copy of Wind of Change onto my > disc then Hawkwind practically lifted Wind of Change straight from it. > It was quite a surprise! > > FoFP From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Aug 10 19:10:32 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:10:32 -0400 Subject: HW: Tour Support Announced Message-ID: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: STAR WARRIORS+++ Please log on to Mission Control Tour Page for full details of tour date support and full ticket contact details......... www.hawkwind.org.uk Hyperlink direct: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/to_.htm MISSION ENDS++ :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Aug 10 19:36:08 2001 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:36:08 +0100 Subject: Some Rock and Blues photos Message-ID: http://www.bikersweb.co.uk/shows/rock&blues/gallery/gallery.htm 'Bands 2 and 3'...not the 'Girls' link... From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Aug 10 21:07:03 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:07:03 EDT Subject: Ultima Thule/Wind of Change/ 4 descending Message-ID: In a message dated 8/10/01 6:37:29 PM, andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: << Wind of Change onto my > disc then Hawkwind practically lifted Wind of Change straight from it. > It was quite a surprise! >> ========= hawkwind's 'wind of change' is merely 4 descending notes. ditto 'lord of light' ditto '7x7' 4 descending chords, in the case of the last 2. and you can hear [presumably] mr brock playing the organ w/one finger.... c'mon guys this is not magic. be very careful w/words like 'lifting'. would you say 'the golden void' was 'lifted' from neil young's 'cowgirl in the sand'? and mr brock told me personally he was really into neil young; i sent him acouple of boot cassettes.... they share the same 2 chords ...yeah, axually "cowgirl" does have more than 2 chords in the song...but the break is those same two chords... same first couple notes of singing.... ['hello cowgirl'/'the golden void'] i dont have to hear the other song to make such a conjecture....if and when i hear it, will i say more than '4 descending notes/chords'? ==== heh... how about the stooges' 'tv eye' is "brainstorm" ? a 2 bar riff in A. and their little relative, 'neat neat neat' by the damned? ===== the 'classic' 'lift' is indeed, "my sweet lord" vs "he's so fine" mr harrison truly had to concede the point, nothing dishonest about it. scheiss happens..... "<>" From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Aug 10 21:56:57 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:56:57 -0400 Subject: Ultima Thule/Wind of Change/ 4 descending Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:07:03 EDT, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >========= >hawkwind's 'wind of change' is merely 4 descending notes. >ditto 'lord of light' >ditto '7x7' ... and the intro to "25 or 6 to 4". (I can't quite picture either Brock OR TD as Chicago fans!) And "Words of Aaron" by the Move (to be a bit more obscure). >would you say 'the golden void' >was 'lifted' from neil young's 'cowgirl in the sand'? >and mr brock told me personally he was really into neil young; i sent him >acouple of boot cassettes.... > >they share the same 2 chords ...yeah, axually "cowgirl" does have more >than 2 chords in the song...but the break is those same two chords... >same first couple notes of singing.... ['hello cowgirl'/'the golden void'] When 'California Brainstorm' was in the mixing/mastering stages, Phil Dirt would *always* play the two (live instrumental outro of "Golden Void") back- to-back on his KFJC radio show and they fit together perfectly. >===== >the 'classic' 'lift' is indeed, "my sweet lord" vs "he's so fine" >mr harrison truly had to concede the point, nothing dishonest about it. My favorite is the intro/verses to Deep Purple's "Space Truckin'" (NOT the chorus with the descending part) and the MC5 version of Sun Ra's "Starship", from 'Kick Out The Jams'. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Aug 10 22:29:10 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 22:29:10 EDT Subject: Ultima Thule/Wind of Change/ 4 descending Message-ID: In a message dated 8/10/01 9:57:19 PM, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: << .. and the intro to "25 or 6 to 4". (I can't quite picture either Brock OR TD as Chicago fans!) And "Words of Aaron" by the Move (to be a bit more obscure). >> ======= '25 or 6 to 4'.....yesssss brainbox was spazzed, but i knew there must've been more; and how about that green day song a few years ago 'influened'....whatever...by '25 or 6 to 4' i have that move song somewhere; speaking of the move/elo, how about "message from the country"/"10538 overture'....but that's the same guy with his guitar... this=is=not=magic conjuring, sometimes, but.... arigato, doug-chan "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Aug 10 22:40:19 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 22:40:19 EDT Subject: "to nick or not to nick...sorry, what was the question?" Message-ID: and just to be fair about this, "master of the universe" studio version, last 3rd and "crash course in brain surgery" "<>" From dahl at AROS.NET Sat Aug 11 03:05:01 2001 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 01:05:01 -0600 Subject: OFF: Ballroom Blitz Message-ID: >>>Feel fortunate... It could have been Krokus :-) What a lame cover that was. A fun song the original is. I wish I knew French. Does this corn dog make me look fat? Brad From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Sat Aug 11 08:19:41 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 07:19:41 -0500 Subject: private party 89 Message-ID: HI, Does anyone happen to know anything about the Hawklogs #16 cd, Private Party 89. I'm wondering where and when this was actually recorded. CHEERS STEPHE From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sat Aug 11 09:33:46 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:33:46 +0800 Subject: private party 89 Message-ID: It MAY be this one: 10.03.1989, BRIDPORT, BEEHIVE, 65/8 intro / master of the universe / coded languages / starflight / ejection / treadmill / time we left / hassan i sahba / assault & battery / golden void / gremlin / levitation / only dreaming / levitation / damnation alley / needle gun / brainstorm / angels of death It seems to be the only gig with all those tracks listed from Bernhard's list at neo-quark. I may be wrong though. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lindas" To: Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: private party 89 > HI, Does anyone happen to know anything about the Hawklogs #16 cd, Private > Party 89. I'm wondering where and when this was actually recorded. CHEERS > STEPHE > From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Sat Aug 11 09:43:11 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:43:11 -0500 Subject: private party 89 Message-ID: Thanks, Bill, I have both so I will check them in comparison. I was also thinking that PP may be one of the videos Hawkwind was selling around 95. I have the flyer somewhere. Thanks again, STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Bill & Cynthia [mailto:freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:34 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: private party 89 It MAY be this one: 10.03.1989, BRIDPORT, BEEHIVE, 65/8 intro / master of the universe / coded languages / starflight / ejection / treadmill / time we left / hassan i sahba / assault & battery / golden void / gremlin / levitation / only dreaming / levitation / damnation alley / needle gun / brainstorm / angels of death It seems to be the only gig with all those tracks listed from Bernhard's list at neo-quark. I may be wrong though. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lindas" To: Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: private party 89 > HI, Does anyone happen to know anything about the Hawklogs #16 cd, Private > Party 89. I'm wondering where and when this was actually recorded. CHEERS > STEPHE > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Aug 11 10:42:23 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 15:42:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A9A162@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > That is a latin word. Doesn't the pope speak latin!!!!!STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:17 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: What's happening?? > > > But I see it just fine to say FUCK on the lists tho > > I like to think we're all grownups here. You ain't no philologist, Stephe, it's Anglo-Saxon and there's only ever been one English Pope. Who did, I suspect, nonetheless speak Latin. This is another way of saying hullo, I'm still signed up but having a lot of trouble finding time for e-mail just at the moment, but expect me to recover this situation fairly sharply in October if not before as the British Academy have finally seen the path of light and truith and given me fudning for my Ph.D. so I shall be able to get back to the Vale of Academe full-time at which point I may even get up-to-date with BOC-L mail. You have been warned :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: BOC - _Secret Treaties_ (`Mes Belles Dames Sarat' - *how* good is this CD? -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Sat Aug 11 11:16:14 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 10:16:14 -0500 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? Message-ID: HI JON, I saw a special on telly, where they were discussing the origin of the word. They claimed it was a latin word for animals fornicating. The pope thing was a smart ass remark. You don't really know me, but I am very much against organized religion. I think it keeps people from the experience of god. I'm not a plilologist, although I do like to read alot. Somethings I say may be wrong. My truth may be completely opposite to yours. Thank you for the information, though. Good luck with your ph.d. CHEERS STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 9:42 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: What's happening?? On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > That is a latin word. Doesn't the pope speak latin!!!!!STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:17 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: What's happening?? > > > But I see it just fine to say FUCK on the lists tho > > I like to think we're all grownups here. You ain't no philologist, Stephe, it's Anglo-Saxon and there's only ever been one English Pope. Who did, I suspect, nonetheless speak Latin. This is another way of saying hullo, I'm still signed up but having a lot of trouble finding time for e-mail just at the moment, but expect me to recover this situation fairly sharply in October if not before as the British Academy have finally seen the path of light and truith and given me fudning for my Ph.D. so I shall be able to get back to the Vale of Academe full-time at which point I may even get up-to-date with BOC-L mail. You have been warned :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: BOC - _Secret Treaties_ (`Mes Belles Dames Sarat' - *how* good is this CD? -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Aug 11 11:19:59 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:49:59 +0930 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? aaaaaaaaccccccccchoooooooooo Message-ID: Had to blow the dust off that one made me snezze!!! errrmmmm - HI dewds! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Jarrett To: Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 12:12 AM Subject: Re: OFF: What's happening?? > On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > > > That is a latin word. Doesn't the pope speak latin!!!!!STEPHE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:17 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: OFF: What's happening?? > > > > > But I see it just fine to say FUCK on the lists tho > > > > I like to think we're all grownups here. > > You ain't no philologist, Stephe, it's Anglo-Saxon and there's > only ever been one English Pope. Who did, I suspect, nonetheless speak > Latin. > > This is another way of saying hullo, I'm still signed up but > having a lot of trouble finding time for e-mail just at the moment, but > expect me to recover this situation fairly sharply in October if not > before as the British Academy have finally seen the path of light and > truith and given me fudning for my Ph.D. so I shall be able to get back to > the Vale of Academe full-time at which point I may even get up-to-date > with BOC-L mail. You have been warned :-) Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: BOC - _Secret Treaties_ (`Mes Belles Dames Sarat' - *how* good is > this CD? > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Aug 11 11:59:52 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:59:52 -0400 Subject: OFF: More bad news in the music scene Message-ID: Hi Folks... Can't any decent labels on this continent survive for any reasonable length of time? Of course, Cleo stills survives, don't they? Madonna tributes and all. Grakkl (FAA) Forwarded from stonerrock.com... Man's Ruin Records is apparently closing shop for good. This saddens us deeply. Man's Ruin Records put out some of the best music this planet has ever seen and it's a serious shame to see them departing our beloved scene so abruptly after contributing so much to it over the years. The first and only "official" word that we've received about this so far was in an email from Mordam Records (the official and exclusive Man's Ruin distributer) telling us (very suddenly) that they are deleting all Man's Ruin titles from their catalogue - effective immediately - due to Man's Ruin bankruptcy. Unfortunately, that means that we CANNOT order any more Man's Ruin titles for All That's Heavy from Mordam. Until further notice, we're not sure which Man's Ruin titles we'll even be able to order again. The worst thing about this is that we were just about to place a huge Man's Ruin order when we got this news. Fortunately, we still have *some* Man's Ruin titles left - but once they're gone, they may be gone for good - we don't know! At the bottom of this email you'll find a short list of the Man's Ruin titles that we still have available - if there is something that you want to get your hands on before it's too late then you should snap it up asap. Consider yourself fo! rewarned! From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Aug 11 15:58:48 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:58:48 -0600 Subject: Pretty Colors On Calvert Freq CD label In-Reply-To: <200108111714.NAA12673@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: The elderly mom unit just handed me a package from Ande G, that arrived in the post, and in it contained the Robert Calvert reissue of "Freq", which I have been trying to order locally and not been able to obtain, as I believe someone on this very list bought the copy(s) that were available (here), and then it went away (and he couldn't get another) No one seems to know if it's (having) shown up again (on catalog listings) as a new item meant that it was really new or not- WELL at first I was a little disappointed for taking the risk, but then started to realize that all I have to do is hold a CD in my hand, "will" it to become strange, and it does- I told Ande not to worry if I got a repeat- so here you go Ande!!! (you know, he's a businessman, wants to provide good service to everyone, even the mutants if they have cash),,,, What I got I am not sure about in comparison to the original 92 release, but I am perfectly pleased nonetheless... other than the printing color of the booklet being just ever so slightly darker, the actual label on the new CD is painted red, and the paint goes all the way out to the edge of the CD (almost) AND the letters on the CD are painted yellow-(if I call it paint, and you call it ink, sorry-)(Tomato Tormato) on the original CD that I bought when it came out, the disc is painted in more of a pink color, and the letters on the CD itself are not yellow, but rather a reflective gold...(also, there is a shaded darker inner ring around the hole, which is not present on the newest copy) what this means, I don't know. Do I care? not particularily as it IS different and has fulfilled it's purpose in my arsenal of "too many is not enough".... BUT!!!!!! If this is still not the actual NEWEST VERSION, someone speak up please- m c From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Sat Aug 11 15:01:52 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 15:01:52 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse of the hidden mirror Message-ID: Rhhaaaaaaaa... (translation : scream of intense pleasure at the first listening of CotHM) (expanded translation, just for mike c: CotHM = Curse of the Hidden Mirror :-) Well, I finally bought it today and gave it two spins so far. I think some of the tracks are going to take some time to grow on me, but most of it I really liked. The one that really grabbed me instantly was "The old gods return". I also liked "Out of the darkness" & "Stone of love" quite a bit. Actually, on the second listen, I liked "Out of the darkness" more than the "Old gods" one. Anyway, all in all, very good stuff. I'm still not entirely sure though whether I prefer HF or CotHM... Time will tell. Alex. (getting ready for a third round) --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Sat Aug 11 15:07:44 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 15:07:44 -0400 Subject: OFF: Looking for cover artist Message-ID: I'm looking for an artist to design a CD cover. It should be SF/Fantasy-oriented. There's no pay at this point, unfortunately, but the artist will get a free copy of the CD, and we'll likely be able to arrange ways of promoting his work. Write back in private, please, at mvdbase at yahoo.com. Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Sat Aug 11 15:20:48 2001 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 20:20:48 +0100 Subject: BOC: Curse of the hidden mirror In-Reply-To: <200108111901.PAA03696@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: Alex S. Garcia wrote: >Well, I finally bought it today and gave it two spins so far. I think some >of the tracks are going to take some time to grow on me, but most of it I >really liked. The one that really grabbed me instantly was "The old gods >return". I also liked "Out of the darkness" & "Stone of love" quite a bit. >Actually, on the second listen, I liked "Out of the darkness" more than the >"Old gods" one. Anyway, all in all, very good stuff. What does anyone make of the very lukewarm review in Classic Rock (UK) only 2 stars out of 5 :( The reviewer really didn't like Out of the Darkness at all. I still think it reminds me of Journey, especially the intro. The only bit I dislike about that song is the ending - Buck should have done a second solo there. -np - Blackmores Night, Fires at Midnight. (A rather disappointing album) -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Aug 11 15:34:40 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:04:40 +0930 Subject: OFF: Looking for cover artist Message-ID: What did you have in mind Alex? Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex S. Garcia To: Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 4:37 AM Subject: OFF: Looking for cover artist > I'm looking for an artist to design a CD cover. It should be > SF/Fantasy-oriented. There's no pay at this point, unfortunately, but the > artist will get a free copy of the CD, and we'll likely be able to arrange > ways of promoting his work. > > Write back in private, please, at mvdbase at yahoo.com. > > > > Alex. > > --------------------------------------------------- > http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm > Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] > www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] > Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net > --------------------------------------------------- > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Aug 11 17:36:53 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Pod Pod) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 15:36:53 -0600 Subject: OFF: one band's opinion of their (former?) label In-Reply-To: <006801c121cd$475bdee0$b79abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: <<"Actually we tried this avoidance bit at CDS with a couple of the Hawkwind cheapo titles of ultra-rehashed tracks but the computer got the better of us and they ended up getting printed - but we did really want to boycott them - honest!!! Would've worked too, if Coleman hadn't bought the things............(just kiddin' Mike - love you really!!!)"">> But the colors Andy- I, I, I don't know if I have ever seen this exact shade of mauve, and the labels, the labels, and stickers, OH, OH, OH I gotta go.. m From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Aug 11 17:13:17 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 22:13:17 +0100 Subject: private party 89 Message-ID: Bridport Beehive is the one; there is a partial video of it but I am not sure of the source. I believe that Pascoe Brock (Dave's son) lived in Bridport at the time so maybe it was his party? Regards, COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lindas" To: Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: Re: private party 89 > Thanks, Bill, I have both so I will check them in comparison. I was also > thinking that PP may be one of the videos Hawkwind was selling around 95. I > have the flyer somewhere. Thanks again, STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill & Cynthia [mailto:freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU] > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:34 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: private party 89 > > > It MAY be this one: > > 10.03.1989, BRIDPORT, BEEHIVE, 65/8 > intro / master of the universe / coded languages / starflight / ejection / > treadmill / time we left / hassan i > sahba / assault & battery / golden void / gremlin / levitation / only > dreaming / levitation / damnation alley > / needle gun / brainstorm / angels of death > > It seems to be the only gig with all those tracks listed from Bernhard's > list at neo-quark. I may be wrong though. > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Lindas" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:19 PM > Subject: private party 89 > > > > HI, Does anyone happen to know anything about the Hawklogs #16 cd, Private > > Party 89. I'm wondering where and when this was actually recorded. CHEERS > > STEPHE > > > From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Sat Aug 11 18:03:31 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 18:03:31 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse of the hidden mirror Message-ID: >What does anyone make of the very lukewarm review in Classic Rock (UK) >only 2 stars out of 5 :( The reviewer really didn't like Out of the >Darkness at all. Haven't read the review, but the guy obviously has poor taste :-) >I still think it reminds me of Journey, especially the intro. Hmm. I didn't get that, odd. Any specific track? Me, I find it reminiscent of the BOC of olden days. I can't quite put my finger on it, though. Perhaps something off "Spectres?" Maybe "Fireworks"... In any case, it's definitely growing to become my favorite track on the album. With "The old gods return" coming in close second. >The >only bit I dislike about that song is the ending - Buck should have >done a second solo there. Nah. I find it just fine as is :-) I was disappointed they didn't include the lyrics in the liner notes, though. At least they had on HF. Oh well. Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 11 18:56:32 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 23:56:32 +0100 Subject: OFF: More bad news in the music scene Message-ID: oh jeez - the last friggin' thing we needed........time to raid the shelf back at the office on Monday!!! Andy Garibaldi > Man's Ruin Records is apparently closing shop for good. This saddens us > deeply. Man's Ruin Records put out some of the best music this planet has > ever seen and it's a serious shame to see them departing our beloved scene > so abruptly after contributing so much to it over the years. > > The first and only "official" word that we've received about this so far was > in an email from Mordam Records (the official and exclusive Man's Ruin > distributer) telling us (very suddenly) that they are deleting all Man's > Ruin titles from their catalogue - effective immediately - due to Man's Ruin > bankruptcy. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 11 19:05:01 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:05:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: one band's opinion of their (former?) label Message-ID: yer one in a million, mikey, m'boy!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pod Pod" To: Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:36 PM Subject: Re: OFF: one band's opinion of their (former?) label > <<"Actually we tried this avoidance bit at CDS with a couple of the Hawkwind > cheapo titles of ultra-rehashed tracks but the computer got the better of us > and they ended up getting printed - but we did really want to boycott them - > honest!!! Would've worked too, if Coleman hadn't bought the > things............(just kiddin' Mike - love you really!!!)"">> > > > But the colors Andy- I, I, I don't know if I have ever seen this exact > shade of mauve, and the labels, the labels, and stickers, OH, OH, OH > > I gotta go.. > m From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sat Aug 11 19:06:03 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:06:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: Very off topic - Limerick - warning - bad language Message-ID: For those who don't know, I run a Mornington Vrescent server at http://richl.hn.org/cres2/bpmcf.asp One of the games that runs on there is the Limerick game - lines in a limerick are written by different people. And here's one I just spotted which made me laugh my arse off.... >From the Beer Powered MC Limerick game... A randy orchestral conductor (muahahaha) a.. penelope: Softly courted a lass and then chucked her a.. Barry the Time Sprout: She swore her revenge a.. blamelewis: On the Last Train to Penge a.. st dogmael: When the Brass section got on and fucked her ARF ARF ARF ARF !!!! Cheers, Rich. (Sorry - I'll get me coat...) :-) From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sat Aug 11 19:11:44 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 19:11:44 -0400 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? Message-ID: My 3 cents worth: remember reading somewhere years ago that the british navy used the acronym f.u.c.k.(for unlawful carnal knowledge)when the flogged sailors for homosexual acts...(back in the 18th-19th centuries) tim Stephen Lindas wrote: > > HI JON, I saw a special on telly, where they were discussing the origin of > the word. They claimed it was a latin word for animals fornicating. The pope > thing was a smart ass remark. You don't really know me, but I am very much > against organized religion. I think it keeps people from the experience of > god. I'm not a plilologist, although I do like to read alot. Somethings I > say may be wrong. My truth may be completely opposite to yours. Thank you > for the information, though. Good luck with your ph.d. CHEERS STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 9:42 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: What's happening?? > > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > > > That is a latin word. Doesn't the pope speak latin!!!!!STEPHE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 5:17 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: OFF: What's happening?? > > > > > But I see it just fine to say FUCK on the lists tho > > > > I like to think we're all grownups here. > > You ain't no philologist, Stephe, it's Anglo-Saxon and there's > only ever been one English Pope. Who did, I suspect, nonetheless speak > Latin. > > This is another way of saying hullo, I'm still signed up but > having a lot of trouble finding time for e-mail just at the moment, but > expect me to recover this situation fairly sharply in October if not > before as the British Academy have finally seen the path of light and > truith and given me fudning for my Ph.D. so I shall be able to get back to > the Vale of Academe full-time at which point I may even get up-to-date > with BOC-L mail. You have been warned :-) Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: BOC - _Secret Treaties_ (`Mes Belles Dames Sarat' - *how* good is > this CD? > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Aug 11 20:36:43 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 20:36:43 -0400 Subject: OFF: additional acts at Long Island NY and Long Branch, NJ shows: Message-ID: The Schedule for the August 8th show at 'The Wrong Way Inn' in Amityville, New York (Long Island) will be as follows: Sloterdijk: 10PM Eulogy: 11PM Marion's Basement 12AM The following badns will also appear when Sloterdijk performs at 'Hooligans' in Long Branch New Jersey on September 8th: Spaztikolon The 4th ( there may still be additions). At this point you will have to call the club for exact sheduling. see the calendar section at: www.mp3.com/sloterdijk for complete info on all confirmed shows and venues. www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Aug 11 21:59:16 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 19:59:16 -0600 Subject: OFF: What's happening?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And just for the name of summer heat in the USA, and that I have been around here long enough to say that Jon's good- don't think he meant to do a flame thrower-just a chatic hello- I'll be a Coleman and say that according to my outdated dictionary, 'philologist' is an "older name" for 'linguist'. maybe Stephe is a pro piglatinguist (god bless TV!!!) (and you Stephe!! good cheer and Bitburger wishes here) <> tim <> << You ain't no philologist, Stephe, it's Anglo-Saxon and there's only ever been one English Pope. Who did, I suspect, nonetheless speak Latin. This is another way of saying hullo, I'm still signed up but having a lot of trouble finding time for e-mail just at the moment, but expect me to recover this situation fairly sharply in October if not before as the British Academy have finally seen the path of light and ruith and given me fudning for my Ph.D. so I shall be able to get back to the Vale of Academe full-time at which point I may even get up-to-date with BOC-L mail. You have been warned :-) Yours,>> Jon From buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Aug 11 22:27:46 2001 From: buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM (Rus Hall) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 22:27:46 -0400 Subject: BOC Setlist and a Motorhead T-Shirt Message-ID: Watertown WI, Riverfest (8/2) Stariways to the Stars Teen Archer Buck's Boogie (6:31) E.T.I. Pocket Harvest Moon Burning for You Harvester of Eyes Cities on Flame Eye of the Hurricane Golden Age of Leather Last Days of May (Awesome) Godzilla (Don't Fear the) Reaper Encore: Dominance and Submission Saw a pair of Buck Dharma archive T-shirts there The guy infront of me had a hilarious Motorhead Tshirt on. It was the Sacrifice tour with a list of cities such as Connecticut Not Far Not Sure Back East Ohio? The Place with the Pool Table No CLue Beats Me Where Zoom Fell Down Anyone have the T or a full list of 'cities'? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Sat Aug 11 22:55:59 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 22:55:59 EDT Subject: Motorhead T-Shirt/complete "itinerary" Message-ID: Yes!!! of course, each of these 'venues' has a date next to it and it's set up like the standard metal tour shirt: back-side... here there they are: connecticut not far not sure back east ohio? independence day the place with the pool tables no clue another place similar to the last place beats me ne wyork or some place like it where zoom fell over big place where zoom got up where that girl lives no idea down the road over the border played here in -85 mikkey's pool party they wouldn't tell us over there not far enough what place is this? sort of s.e.-ish around from walgreen's couldn't tell you next to mcdonalds off on unconfirmed over here west, i think where lem got laid where the girl that lem laid lives now independence day still waiting belgium? next to police station small place--smells don't care got a flagpole outside classic shirt...as, er, concert shirts go... bobm From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Aug 12 08:41:33 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:41:33 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind and Simple Minds connections etc Message-ID: 1. Steve Hillage #1 - Steve produced early Simple Minds stuff - Andy Anderson drummed for Steve, Sphynx, ICU, and later Hawkwind 2. Steve Hillage #2 - Steve introduce SM's guitarist to the joys of the gliss guitar - I remember seeing Charlie giving it "gliss" at the SECC and Ibrox years ago. No standing on one leg mind. Dave Brock has been using the gliss guitar too - I think he picked this up from Daevid Allen. 3. Me - I played in band with Ralph Forbes, whos has drummed in the past for Simple Minds - his cousin played bass Dave From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Aug 12 10:33:44 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:33:44 +0100 Subject: Studio 22 info Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone have date and venue details of the Studio 22 session in Australia last year? 1. Date of recording 2. Town / City 3. Location within point 2 above (Studio 22 at a guess, unless that's a radio station name). Cheers, Jez From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sun Aug 12 10:45:21 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:45:21 +0200 Subject: Studio 22 info In-Reply-To: <005301c1233b$f4baa5c0$d80d883e@jezd> Message-ID: Hi jez At 15:33 12.08.2001 +0100, you wrote: >Does anyone have date and venue details of the Studio 22 session in >Australia last year? >1. Date of recording 24.02.2000 >2. Town / City Sydney >3. Location Studio 22 (I think) cheers Bernhard From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sun Aug 12 11:10:18 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:10:18 +0800 Subject: Studio 22 info Message-ID: From: "Bernhard Pospiech" > Hi jez > > At 15:33 12.08.2001 +0100, you wrote: > > >Does anyone have date and venue details of the Studio 22 session in > >Australia last year? > > >1. Date of recording > 24.02.2000 > > >2. Town / City > Sydney > > >3. Location > Studio 22 (I think) > > > cheers > Bernhard Studio 22 is the name of a TV program here in Oz. Cheers Bill > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Aug 12 14:15:51 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:15:51 EDT Subject: HW:Re: Bob Calvert a punk? um, no. Bob Calvert, meet Ray Stevens. Message-ID: In a message dated 8/7/01 1:36:43 PM, jayne at WALLISFAMILY.KAROO.CO.UK writes: << Bob Calvert wasn't anything in particular - he totally defied categorisation. Among other things, he could certainly be described as a punk pre-cursor - just look at the lyrics to 1973s "Urban Guerilla". ANY punk band would have loved to have written those words. ===== this one isnt so sure about that, much less 'defying categorization.' or being a 'punk precursor'. what Mr Calvert was inclined to be was.... a "character actor" *he had a silver machine *he had an orgone accumulator *he ejected from his plane *his android replica was acting up again and so on... in this context, he was an 'urban guerrilla' as well, and, as a character actor, he was 'in character'. but as surely as mr. brock's gtr. solo on the original version wasnt quite in tune and as surely as subsequent post-calvert renditions of the song came perilously close to 'vaudeville' IMO this wasnt 'social insurrection' taking place here. === and then there's "raw power" by the stooges, as punk 'precursors' go..... to name just one example among others. [calling Dr Pearson] sigh.... === which brings us to Ray Stevens. whose hits included "gitarzan", "the streak" the 'classic hits radio' syrup-fest "everything is beautiful" and a song called "mr. businessman". "you'd better take care of business, mr. businessman [if you can]" making 'bombs in his cellar' notwithstanding it was as a succinct an indictment of 'the system' as Mr.Calvert's. and, i suppose, had the same relation to the real world as Mr. Calvert's. as both of these singers were "in character" for their respective, conceptualized indictments. though Calvert's HW version had the advantage of a killer rhythm section. ===== so was Mr Calvert a punk precursor? this one thinks Mr Calvert would bristle at the suggestion that he was then, or had ever been, a 'punk'. === Homework for you: what were Calvert's original lyrics to 'sprit of the age'? as released, those words had been previously recited as "Starfarer's dispatch". the live version i have isnt clear enough to tell, but there was a completely different set of lyrics at first. and in deference to Mr. Calvert, as recitations go, "the beast of chaos" sounded much more ominous than say, the post-Calvert vaudevile "urban guerrilla". ================= various trivial annoyances have delayed my 'tripping'; i hope to begin an edited version on tuesday. "<>" From Jazzy at JAZZMEISTER.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Aug 12 15:57:15 2001 From: Jazzy at JAZZMEISTER.DEMON.CO.UK (Justin Hood) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:57:15 +0100 Subject: Live Chronicles: Saga Of Eric Of Melnibone Message-ID: Just moochin the HMV on-line store and they have 'Live Chronicles: Saga Of Eric Of Melnibone' for ?6.99, is this a must have, and also what is the quality like, story behind it etc... if any one knows (im sure they'll be couple out there), could you drop me a line. Cheers Justin From jayne at WALLISFAMILY.KAROO.CO.UK Sun Aug 12 16:33:43 2001 From: jayne at WALLISFAMILY.KAROO.CO.UK (JayneWallis) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:33:43 +0100 Subject: Mr. Calvert a punk? Message-ID: The key line is "among other things". There's absolutely no doubt that Bob Calvert was a character actor - URBAN GUERILLA wasn't meant to be taken literally - it was a rant against the utter inneffectiveness of "flower power". I didn't describe him as a "punk", but I do believe he was a forerunner (perhaps unknowingly) of British punk rock. Re "homework" - SOTA was a combination of the lyrics from THE STARFARER'S DESPATCH and THE CLONE'S POEM. Steve. From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Sun Aug 12 17:08:11 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:08:11 -0400 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: Everyone who is going to the campsite should defo meet up and we can have a little chin-wag and a sing-song. Alastair. On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:06:55 -0400, Michael Crook wrote: >I'm going, I'm aiming to get to the campsite Friday evening. I found this website concerning last years event, which has a few good pix of the festival site and should please any Gong fans. >http://www.moss53.freeserve.co.uk/cant2000.htm >It looks as if there is a strict curfew, I hope non of the other bands overrun! > >Mick > > >May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. > >-------------------- >talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK Sun Aug 12 17:38:12 2001 From: pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Peter Wibrew) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:38:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: I'll be at the campsite Friday evening at some point with my son Shaun(7) who's been pestering me for a long time to see hawkwind, arrival time really depends on what time I can get off work and drive down from Liverpool, but It would be nice to meet people from the list........he he he and I should have a tray of beer in the boot to help with the singing. All the best Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair Lee Sumner" To: Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 10:08 PM Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury exhibit > Everyone who is going to the campsite should defo meet up and we can have a > little chin-wag and a sing-song. > > Alastair. > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:06:55 -0400, Michael Crook > wrote: > > >I'm going, I'm aiming to get to the campsite Friday evening. I found this > website concerning last years event, which has a few good pix of the > festival site and should please any Gong fans. > >http://www.moss53.freeserve.co.uk/cant2000.htm > >It looks as if there is a strict curfew, I hope non of the other bands > overrun! > > > >Mick > > > > > >May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. > > > >-------------------- > >talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at > http://www.talk21.com From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Aug 12 18:45:41 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:45:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Studio 22 info Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone have date and venue details of the Studio 22 session in Australia last year? 1. Date of recording 2. Town / City 3. Location within point 2 above (Studio 22 at a guess, unless that's a radio station name). Cheers, Jez From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Aug 12 19:22:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:52:01 +0930 Subject: HW: Studio 22 info Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: J D To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:15 AM Subject: HW: Studio 22 info Hi, Does anyone have date and venue details of the Studio 22 session in Australia last year? 1. Date of recording >>> (( 24/2/200 )) confirm at mission control >>> the tape I dubbed on the night has the date on it but it is at the shop being >>> duplicated so I can't tell you fer sure right now 2. Town / City >>> (( Sydney Australia )) 3. Location within point 2 above (Studio 22 at a guess, unless that's a radio station name). >>> Studio 22 is a studio name - As far as I knew it was at the ABC television studio in the studio 22 - which is also a television program on the ABC by the very same name Cheers, Jez From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Aug 12 20:26:33 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:26:33 EDT Subject: Mr. Calvert a punk? Message-ID: In a message dated 8/12/01 4:31:51 PM, jayne at WALLISFAMILY.KAROO.CO.UK writes: << THE STARFARER'S DISPATCH au contraire. the point was, a live version i have on cassette had an entirely=different=set=of=lyrics prior to the subsequent version which incorporated "starfarer's dispatch". "<>" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Aug 12 21:20:53 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:50:53 +0930 Subject: Mr. Calvert a punk? off an silly Message-ID: Well yes he is a punk in my books why, back in my day - anyone with long hair and tight pants and too too many girls just had to be a PUNK - damn punks - theres never enuff girls to go around normally without greedy PUNKS taking more than their fair share and often stealing extra girlies for later.. Put em all in jail and teach em a few good life lessons I SAY!!! I still remember EVERY lesson I was taught back then and it hasn't done me no harm!! Made me the model citizen I am today!!!! Mr Red Kneck Managing Director @ www.liddleboyz.kom all events and characters in this movie are fictional and it is purely coincidental bla bla bla From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Aug 12 21:32:40 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:32:40 EDT Subject: Mr. Calvert a punk? Message-ID: In a message dated 8/12/01 9:18:59 PM, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: << Well yes he is a punk in my books why, back in my day - anyone with long hair and tight pants and too too many girls just had to be a PUNK - damn punks - theres never enuff girls to go around normally without greedy PUNKS taking more than their fair share and often stealing extra girlies for later. >> === A) i really dont want to communicate with you. B) long hair/tight pants/ and 'stealing girlies' had nothing, repeat nothing at all to do the uk punks of the latter '70s. or even in the states. pretty weak fashion definition on your part. as doug walker said, "come correct or dont show up at all." "<>" From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Sun Aug 12 21:22:28 2001 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:22:28 +1000 Subject: Studio 22 info Message-ID: Hi it was 24/2/2000,recorded in the afternoon prior to the actual Sydney gig, at the ABC studios at Gore Hill, from memory. The show that you see , was edited from what was played, they also played Assassins of Allah/Space is ....,Brainstorm/Refer Madness. Silver Machine was actually the last thing they played, so it looks a bit strange that there's no Dave on the last song of the Broadcast(FreeFall). The bits they missed out were very good, I believe that Dave has a copy of the full show,but only from one camera angle,and I sent him a copy of the show ,that was broadcast on TV here. Sonique(Paul) did have a source to get broadcast standard copies of the show, but don't know whether the ABC have any left. To sum it up ,It was like Hawkwind in your lounge room. regards Marty > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Aug 12 21:52:37 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:22:37 +0930 Subject: Mr. Calvert a punk? Message-ID: My GOD man?! are you serious Have you no - ahhhhh repeat - noooo sense of humour???? or are you merely trying to be humerous???????? Maybe you didn't get the gist at all?? sighhhhhhhhhhhhhh >> scratching head <<< tum tee tum and I thought by signing it MR REDNECK everyone would get the joke??? tum tee tum ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Mr. Calvert a punk? > In a message dated 8/12/01 9:18:59 PM, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > > << Well yes he is a punk in my books > > > why, back in my day - anyone with long hair and tight pants and too too many > > girls just had to be a PUNK - > > damn punks - theres never enuff girls to go around normally without greedy > > PUNKS taking more than their fair share and often stealing extra girlies for > > later. >> > === > A) i really dont want to communicate with you. > B) long hair/tight pants/ and 'stealing girlies' had nothing, repeat nothing > at all to do the uk punks of the latter '70s. or even in the states. pretty > weak fashion definition on your part. > > > as doug walker said, "come correct or dont show up at all." > > "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Aug 12 21:54:24 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:54:24 EDT Subject: Mr. Calvert a punk? Message-ID: In a message dated 8/12/01 9:50:57 PM, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: << sighhhhhhhhhhhhhh >> ====== here's a quarter. go tell it to mike coleman. "<>" From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Aug 12 23:53:09 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:53:09 -0600 Subject: Mr. Calvert a punk? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "<>": <<<< ====== here's a quarter. go tell it to mike coleman.>>> hahaha!!! (hey "<>", still taking trips to the Prep H attachment for giggles) I'm here Michael- (patting knee, indicating place to "hop on") come on and tell me where it hurts (rolling spliff)..... If I can't help spread a little cheer, then to hell with Stryper (remember that really bad LP cover in the cut-out bins, here in USA)...(and the Devil) (Stryper can go on ahead, me and the Devil will catch up later) m From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Sun Aug 12 23:24:04 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:24:04 -0600 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: Wow, here's an old email. Just cleaning up my inbox. OK, where do I get the Starfield cd? Got a few bucks right now... Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:52 AM Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > Kevin said: > > If anyone out there doesn't have Starfield's "Return To Earth" yet, you > want > > it. You really want it. > > Granted, it's no "Space Ritual" remake, and the credits don't list a > > paper-and-comb player, but it's fantastic. > > Get it. Do it now. It's that good. > > Starfield and Tim Blake's "Tide of the Century" are brilliant! My top two > cd's of the moment. > > Bill From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 13 01:07:41 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:07:41 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind "Item Fishing" Announcement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 632 bytes Desc: not available URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 13 00:08:08 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:38:08 +0930 Subject: Mr. Calvert a punk? Message-ID: May I share that spliff as I tell you my woes Mike?? twwffffffffffffff twffffffffffff kkkkkchhhhh kkkkkchhhhh phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........ Ok - well : theres this "person" "<>" with no sense of humour who seems to like editing others emails and then reply cynically and lamely. He seems to lack any detectable amounts of intelligence and basically gives the impression of being a com-plete waste of space. Shame really cause I'm sure deep down he is a really deep and sincere person who is merely in dire need of an enima or two? Maybe Im wrong here? I hate to point the bone at anyone - but in this case I felt a need to do so...... good weed man........... ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Mr. Calvert a punk? > "<>": > <<<< ====== > here's a quarter. > > go tell it to mike coleman.>>> > > hahaha!!! (hey "<>", still taking trips to the Prep H attachment for giggles) > > I'm here Michael- (patting knee, indicating place to "hop on") come on > and tell me where it hurts (rolling spliff)..... > > If I can't help spread a little cheer, then to hell with Stryper (remember > that really bad LP cover in the cut-out bins, here in USA)...(and the > Devil) (Stryper can go on ahead, me and the Devil will catch up later) > m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 13 01:24:20 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:24:20 -0600 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk In-Reply-To: <005f01c123a7$82135460$e374a58e@pavilion> Message-ID: Bryan- there is a Starfield 'Original' copy on an auction- mail me if you want to go for it, or got cash and wish me to do it and destroy any incomming opossition (it's VERY VERY limited- like 50 copies in original form) I'm always around It's easy. mike coleman From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 13 01:47:37 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:47:37 -0600 Subject: Mr. Calvert a punk?/ African Momba Flames/Hissing In-Reply-To: <000f01c123ad$9022d200$eecb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: Don't worry Michael-(in regard to cyber judgement) He is a very intense character.....(imo) He knows a lot about alot of music, and takes it seriously on this list (and) IMO when we let others bring us down emotionally, it empowers them (whoever that is in theory) and I prefer being more wicked (than that) when I am able, than to allow this to occur for any sustained period.... It's up to you how and what you submit, and I am the last person that can complain on anyone...... I hope there can be some "avoiding tolerance" (old Coca-Cola USA Christams time world harmony carrol now very nauseatingly and foggily returning to my memory) I respect you- you are a recording engineer, artist, and recording artist yourself- I see depth and bredth and width where you are concerned.....and your 2 women are also my friends- and Damn!!! that LIPPS, INC. was "Funky Town", not "Funk Town", darnitt- not as funny- shoot shucks m From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Aug 13 01:04:39 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:04:39 +0800 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: Hi Bryan Try Andy G. Money well spent. Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "BL Young" To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > Wow, here's an old email. Just cleaning up my inbox. > > OK, where do I get the Starfield cd? Got a few bucks right now... > > Bryan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill & Cynthia > To: > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:52 AM > Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > > > > Kevin said: > > > If anyone out there doesn't have Starfield's "Return To Earth" yet, you > > want > > > it. You really want it. > > > Granted, it's no "Space Ritual" remake, and the credits don't list a > > > paper-and-comb player, but it's fantastic. > > > Get it. Do it now. It's that good. > > > > Starfield and Tim Blake's "Tide of the Century" are brilliant! My top two > > cd's of the moment. > > > > Bill > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Aug 13 00:56:44 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 00:56:44 EDT Subject: No Subject Message-ID: thanks for putting it on the board, mike. i'm outta here. "<>" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 13 01:05:09 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:35:09 +0930 Subject: Mr. Calvert a punk?/ African Momba Flames/Hissing Message-ID: LoL Hey man - I never let anything get me down bro at least not long enuff to to make a skeeter bites worth of difference anyhoo and I love everyone regardless - no matter what just aint me to hate anyone for anything unless they cut my hair off with a buzzer thing while I sleep - but thats just me I'll try harder next time with the submissions tee hee From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 13 02:11:27 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 00:11:27 -0600 Subject: Daslud/ MB In-Reply-To: Message-ID: could one of you 2 please explain why I have been accused- thank you m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 13 02:21:38 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 00:21:38 -0600 Subject: No Subject In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks for putting it on the board, mike. Explain, or unblock Not amused. m From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Aug 13 01:33:24 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:33:24 EDT Subject: OFF: Where the ugly things are Message-ID: no class at all to persist in putting this matter on the board, mike. sorry, guys and gals =================================================== HTTP://network54.com/Hide/Forum/84302 i've been sorta wiped out by this place "the underground serbian cafe" serbia has nothing at all to do with this place. it's EVIL. becoming very tired of such boards and a byproduct is i dont think i can stay here either. the past 10 days or so have been pretty uncool here. lolol i should go find a 'brady bunch' discussion group or something. ======== you think i'm too serious, do ya huh? well, books are >full< of what you dont know. a woman who is dear to me, a russian emigrant living in jerusalem is in danger now i fear for her because [i believe] WAR is coming i've just about pleaded with her to let me fly her out of there but she wont let me..... ==== you think i'm too serious, do ya huh? L'menexe, not "daslud" From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 13 02:58:13 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 00:58:13 -0600 Subject: OFF: Where the ugly things are In-Reply-To: <87.e8da449.28a8c0a4@aol.com> Message-ID: Your name is Larry idiot. Die Now . From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 13 02:27:13 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:57:13 +0930 Subject: OFF: Where the ugly things are Message-ID: you are a fuckin weirdo man ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:03 PM Subject: OFF: Where the ugly things are > no class at all to persist in putting this matter on the board, mike. > > sorry, guys and gals > =================================================== > HTTP://network54.com/Hide/Forum/84302 > > > i've been sorta wiped out by this place > > "the underground serbian cafe" > > serbia has nothing at all to do with this place. it's EVIL. > > becoming very tired of such boards > and a byproduct is i dont think i can stay here either. > the past 10 days or so have been pretty uncool here. > > lolol > > i should go find a 'brady bunch' discussion group or something. > ======== > you think i'm too serious, do ya huh? > well, books are >full< of what you dont know. > > a woman who is dear to me, a russian emigrant living in jerusalem > is in danger now > i fear for her > because [i believe] WAR is coming > > i've just about pleaded with her > to let me fly her out of there > but she wont let me..... > ==== > you think i'm too serious, do ya huh? > > L'menexe, not "daslud" From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 13 03:51:16 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:51:16 -0600 Subject: OFF: Where the ugly things are In-Reply-To: <000901c123c0$fe0332c0$d0d0223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: Michael- please let's DO leave this to me and "<>"- I just told him privately I take back my harsh words- I don't want to fight him (on list, OR in person) I didn't mean what I said- I was complementing him while trying to explain to you why he gets irritated- (and he apparently didn't agree with my choice of wording) Please let this stay only between me and "<>", if it must contimue at all- just let me handle it- m and PS- It's not MY fault "<>"- I disagree on that one From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 13 03:56:02 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:56:02 -0600 Subject: OFF: Where the ugly things are In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I meant please let my problem, be seperate from yours, with him, Michael- and vice versa. m From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 13 03:01:02 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:31:02 +0930 Subject: OFF: Where the ugly things are Message-ID: Give us a kiss anyway ya smelly ole wanka Tee hee ----- Original Message ----- From: Inflatable Ingrid To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:57 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Where the ugly things are > you are a fuckin weirdo man > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:03 PM > Subject: OFF: Where the ugly things are > > > > no class at all to persist in putting this matter on the board, mike. > > > > sorry, guys and gals > > =================================================== > > HTTP://network54.com/Hide/Forum/84302 > > > > > > i've been sorta wiped out by this place > > > > "the underground serbian cafe" > > > > serbia has nothing at all to do with this place. it's EVIL. > > > > becoming very tired of such boards > > and a byproduct is i dont think i can stay here either. > > the past 10 days or so have been pretty uncool here. > > > > lolol > > > > i should go find a 'brady bunch' discussion group or something. > > ======== > > you think i'm too serious, do ya huh? > > well, books are >full< of what you dont know. > > > > a woman who is dear to me, a russian emigrant living in jerusalem > > is in danger now > > i fear for her > > because [i believe] WAR is coming > > > > i've just about pleaded with her > > to let me fly her out of there > > but she wont let me..... > > ==== > > you think i'm too serious, do ya huh? > > > > L'menexe, not "daslud" From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 13 03:10:23 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:40:23 +0930 Subject: OFF: Where the ugly things are Message-ID: I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out what I've done to make the dude so nasty venemous? hmmmm Skitzy maybe?? I dunno Peace ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Where the ugly things are > I meant please let my problem, be seperate from yours, with him, Michael- > and vice versa. > m From achad13 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 13 05:21:30 2001 From: achad13 at HOTMAIL.COM (dave evans) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:21:30 +0100 Subject: can you please settle your tiff in private? (ie OFFLIST) Message-ID: re: ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Coleman To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Where the ugly things are I meant please let my problem, be seperate from yours, with him, Michael- and vice versa. m and separate from the list please- not interested and didn't sign up to this list (and pay for phone calls to download it) to read this endless crap. Please kiss and make up/kill eachother/whatever OFFLIST. Thanks. dave From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Mon Aug 13 06:25:46 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 06:25:46 -0400 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: Don't know who he is. I never liked Mash, it was too green. Alastair. On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:10:34 -0400, Moonglum wrote: >No you don't. You are Major Charles Winchester from M.A.S.H. (not Frank, as >I mistakenly typed in my drunkenness)! > >On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:01:20 -0400, Alastair Lee Sumner > wrote: > >>I'll be there with the Moongluum possy. Someone told me that I look a bit >>like Christopher Walken. Just look out for the guy with a bandaged head and >>a revolver pressed against the side of it. >> >>Alastair. >> From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Mon Aug 13 06:34:33 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 06:34:33 -0400 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: I think we will be there on Saturday so I think this will mean meeting people either before or after the festival. Most likely after I would imagine as people will be going to the festival at different times. Perhaps people from the list could put a label or sign on their tent or car or whatever to identify themselves from the BOC-L list. That way you don't have to walk around with an embarrassing badge all day. Alastair. On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:38:12 +0100, Peter Wibrew wrote: >I'll be at the campsite Friday evening at some point with my son Shaun(7) >who's been pestering me for a long time to see hawkwind, arrival time really >depends on what time I can get off work and drive down from Liverpool, but >It would be nice to meet people from the list........he he he and I should >have a tray of beer in the boot to help with the singing. > >All the best >Peter > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Alastair Lee Sumner" >To: >Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 10:08 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury exhibit > > >> Everyone who is going to the campsite should defo meet up and we can have >a >> little chin-wag and a sing-song. >> >> Alastair. >> >> On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:06:55 -0400, Michael Crook >> wrote: >> >> >I'm going, I'm aiming to get to the campsite Friday evening. I found this >> website concerning last years event, which has a few good pix of the >> festival site and should please any Gong fans. >> >http://www.moss53.freeserve.co.uk/cant2000.htm >> >It looks as if there is a strict curfew, I hope non of the other bands >> overrun! >> > >> >Mick >> > >> > >> >May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. >> > >> >-------------------- >> >talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at >> http://www.talk21.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Aug 13 07:46:08 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:46:08 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: What campsite are most people using? Some friends of mine are off camping down that way prior to meeting up for Saturday. They were going to scout out campsites but if there's one people are already using I'll let them know about it. Nick From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Aug 13 08:29:07 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:29:07 EDT Subject: OFF: Where the ugly things are Message-ID: In a message dated 8/13/01 2:59:17 AM, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: << Give us a kiss anyway ya smelly ole wanka >> ===== you have polluted this board, imbecile. i'm not going to stay. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Aug 13 08:30:08 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:30:08 EDT Subject: can you please settle your tiff in private? (ie OFFLIST) Message-ID: right you are. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Aug 13 08:37:04 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:37:04 EDT Subject: can you please settle your tiff in private? (ie OFFLIST) Message-ID: my aplogies. i'm not going to stay. enough has been enough. "<>" From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 13 10:05:58 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:05:58 -0600 Subject: can you please smoke that spliff like a pirate In-Reply-To: <38.1a5cb7d7.28a92250@aol.com> Message-ID: Dave- I told you I would pay your extra expense- This MUST BE! L'menexe!!! wait!!!! writing you a mail- You can't cruise- you have made friends here- INCLUDING ME STILL- I have explained things to people, and I am staying out of your way- We LOVE YOU MAN- (meaning we who do)(and YOU HAVE FANS)(I KNOW YOU DO- TALKED with some off list) I just reserve the right to be Michaels friend- but now I back off this one- California Dreaming peace m From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Mon Aug 13 09:21:47 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:21:47 +0100 Subject: Some Rock and Blues photos Message-ID: Neil Ward wrote: > http://www.bikersweb.co.uk/shows/rock&blues/gallery/gallery.htm > > 'Bands 2 and 3'...not the 'Girls' link... Imagine my surprise when I clicked on 'People 3' and saw myself waving back!! See if you can guess which one's me :) Keef From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 13 09:54:51 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:54:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit In-Reply-To: Jill Strobridge's message of Wed, 8 Aug 2001 22:37:20 +0100 Message-ID: Jill Strobridge writes: > I confess to be not too keen on wandering round a music festival with a > printer label on me (what was the Prisoner comment - "I will not be > punched, filed, numbered, labelled..." "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. I am a person. My life is my own" -- Number Six From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Mon Aug 13 09:56:00 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:56:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: Nick Lee wrote: > What campsite are most people using? > Some friends of mine are off camping down that way prior to meeting up for > Saturday. They were going to scout out campsites but if there's one people > are already using I'll let them know about it. > > Nick >From previous postings it looks like Painters Forstal Farm just outside Faversham is chosen campsite. I've just phoned the site and they're completely booked. Not even room for one small tent - something about fire regulations - bummer. Does anyone have a spare crash space in their tent? If not, where's everyone else camping? Keef From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Aug 13 10:21:30 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:21:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit In-Reply-To: <004601c123ed$8c182b20$4f44fc3e@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Nick Lee wrote: > What campsite are most people using? We're not camping, we're hostelling, a place in canterbury itself called 'Kipps Hostel' this is almost certainly information of noi use or interest to you, much like mosrt of my posts :) -- Kirsten Procter ghoti NP: Captain Beefheart and his magic band - I'm gonna do what I wanna do From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 13 12:21:03 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (The Beast Of Chaos) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:21:03 -0600 Subject: To Gaze Upon This Holy Sacrament In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I bring a token of Frankencense.... Here is a color picture of WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF TIME SILVER AWARD (looks silver to me) record award http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OPA-LOKA take a puff. Complements 'G', 'G'for'Germany' From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Mon Aug 13 11:38:27 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:38:27 -0400 Subject: HW: Canterbury exhibit Message-ID: Who is actually staying at the Painters Farm campsite? Alastair. On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:56:00 +0100, Keith Barton wrote: >Nick Lee wrote: > >> What campsite are most people using? >> Some friends of mine are off camping down that way prior to meeting up for >> Saturday. They were going to scout out campsites but if there's one people >> are already using I'll let them know about it. >> >> Nick > >>From previous postings it looks like Painters Forstal Farm just outside >Faversham is chosen campsite. >I've just phoned the site and they're completely booked. Not even room for one >small tent - something about fire regulations - bummer. > >Does anyone have a spare crash space in their tent? > >If not, where's everyone else camping? > >Keef From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Aug 13 12:01:16 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:01:16 +0100 Subject: Some Rock and Blues photos Message-ID: lol keef! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barton" To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:21 PM Subject: Re: Some Rock and Blues photos > Neil Ward wrote: > > > http://www.bikersweb.co.uk/shows/rock&blues/gallery/gallery.htm > > > > 'Bands 2 and 3'...not the 'Girls' link... > > Imagine my surprise when I clicked on 'People 3' and saw myself waving > back!! > > See if you can guess which one's me :) > > Keef From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 13 14:02:18 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:02:18 +0100 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: good idea- access: www.andygee.dial.pipex.com/highlite.htm for the review and then you can order by sending your details to me. Incidentally, to everyone else, we had a Dead Earnest website upgrade at the weekend and if we've done it right, which with my track record on computers is highly unlikely, then anyone should now be able to buy Dead Earnest label CD's from us directly using credit card on Paypal so if you want to have a chuckle at our ineptitude (pessimist? me?) try: www.andygee.dial.pipex.com/sales.htm and buy something. Hope to expand what we can offer as time goes by and also means you can use paypal to pay for any vinyl anyone fancies. Ho Hum - computers for ya'............. Have fun, Andy Garibaldi (as Dead Earnest this time) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:04 AM Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > Hi Bryan > > Try Andy G. Money well spent. > > Cheers > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BL Young" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:24 AM > Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > > > > Wow, here's an old email. Just cleaning up my inbox. > > > > OK, where do I get the Starfield cd? Got a few bucks right now... > > > > Bryan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill & Cynthia > > To: > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:52 AM > > Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > > > > > > > Kevin said: > > > > If anyone out there doesn't have Starfield's "Return To Earth" yet, > you > > > want > > > > it. You really want it. > > > > Granted, it's no "Space Ritual" remake, and the credits don't list a > > > > paper-and-comb player, but it's fantastic. > > > > Get it. Do it now. It's that good. > > > > > > Starfield and Tim Blake's "Tide of the Century" are brilliant! My top > two > > > cd's of the moment. > > > > > > Bill > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 13 14:12:56 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:12:56 +0100 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: hang on a minute - you're confusing the poor guy - there is no real 'original' as such - just one edition. The story is that it got released, then accidentally, 30 were pressed with an extra track, we had them all, still have about five left, and then it reverts to the normal one again. Think that tells it all, Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:24 AM Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > Bryan- there is a Starfield 'Original' copy on an auction- > > mail me if you want to go for it, or got cash and wish me to do it and > destroy any incomming opossition (it's VERY VERY limited- like 50 copies in > original form) > > I'm always around > > It's easy. > mike coleman From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 13 14:10:04 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:10:04 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind "Item Fishing" Announcement Message-ID: rats- you've gone and told everyone now - they'll all want one - here at CD Services, EMI love us so much that they've not sent us one or even told us it exists which is great considering the order we gave them for the jewel cases, so I will phone up my contact there tomorrow and see if we can weasel one out of them - only trouble is, Mikey, if I do, then it's mine, all mine!!!! Will keep you posted as to what they say at EMI HQ, Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:07 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind "Item Fishing" Announcement there exists a sampler CD as a promotional promo item to the (now released?) jewel case remasters of the EMI CD's- it's got these: hurry on sundown, the reason is, master of the universe, children of the sun, urban guerilla, down through the night, electronic number 1, orgone accumulator, psychedelic warlords, wind of change, brainbox pollution, d rider. No report on Artwork and sleeve more when in talon. m ........some copies are "rumored" to be mispressed with "Funk Town" by Lipps, Inc., in place of "The Reason Is"............... From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 13 16:09:48 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:09:48 -0600 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk In-Reply-To: <008901c12423$d2ea24a0$9c9cbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: **Sleep Deprevation Without The Safety Tools For Over=The=Road Trucking:** (is bad-) <> < On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:32:36 +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote: >I saw this on Gnutella and downloaded it out of curiosity. - it's a >mistitled MP?. It's the Sweet. As usual. > >> In order to close that thread definitively, do you or anybody in this >> list know if BOC ever played a song called "Ballroom Blitz"? I saw it >> mentionned in a mp3 forum somewhere. >> >> Cheers, Jean-Charles Moriaud It's probably a good time, then, to mention that if you find a song called "Stairway to the Stars", it might also be by the Sweet (no relation to the BOC song, just as their "Dream On" bears no relation to the Aerosmith song). While I love the "Ballroom Blitz" era, their "Stairway to the Stars" thoroughly sucks (bad MOR discofunk) IMO. And (to tie in with that other thread again) don't forget that their Chinn/Chapman-penned hit "Blockbuster" WAS lifted directly from one of the other big glam hits of the day (by a guy who lifted every stage of HIS career from other artists, so plagarism isn't a fair accusation here). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Mon Aug 13 17:36:42 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:36:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ballroom Blitz Message-ID: From: "Doug Pearson" >And (to tie in with that other thread again) don't forget that their >Chinn/Chapman-penned hit "Blockbuster" WAS lifted directly >from one of the other big glam hits of the day (by a guy who >lifted every stage of HIS career from other artists, so >plagarism isn't a fair accusation here). Weird Al? He's the only one I can think of who doesn't have anything original (unless you count changing the words to the song). Jerry From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Aug 13 18:20:46 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:20:46 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ballroom Blitz In-Reply-To: <200108132055.QAA09392@listserv.spc.edu>; from jasret@MINDSPRING.COM on Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 04:55:14PM -0400 Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 04:55:14PM -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: > It's probably a good time, then, to mention that if you find a song > called "Stairway to the Stars", it might also be by the Sweet (no relation > to the BOC song It should be noted that Chet Baker recorded a jazz album called "Stairway to the Stars" in 1965 -- predating both BOC and Sweet :-/ (Damn, I love Google -- you never know what you'll turn up...) > And (to tie in with > that other thread again) don't forget that their Chinn/Chapman-penned > hit "Blockbuster" WAS lifted directly from one of the other big glam hits > of the day (by a guy who lifted every stage of HIS career from other > artists, so plagarism isn't a fair accusation here). Do tell! I love that song -- and the rest of the Ch**2 stuff, up until that Aguetha Faltskog (sp?) album kind of blew it for me. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Aug 13 18:27:29 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:27:29 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ballroom Blitz Message-ID: re:weird al: yes he does,some of his originals are made to sound in the style of other bands (dare to be stupid"-not a devo song,and he does have some that are originals...besides,you gotta love the polka medleys. tim Jerry Guizar wrote: > > From: "Doug Pearson" > > >And (to tie in with that other thread again) don't forget that their > >Chinn/Chapman-penned hit "Blockbuster" WAS lifted directly > >from one of the other big glam hits of the day (by a guy who > >lifted every stage of HIS career from other artists, so > >plagarism isn't a fair accusation here). > > Weird Al? He's the only one I can think of who doesn't have > anything original (unless you count changing the words to > the song). > > Jerry From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Aug 13 19:09:02 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:09:02 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ballroom Blitz Message-ID: On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:20:46 -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: >> And (to tie in with >> that other thread again) don't forget that their Chinn/Chapman-penned >> hit "Blockbuster" WAS lifted directly from one of the other big glam hits >> of the day (by a guy who lifted every stage of HIS career from other >> artists, so plagarism isn't a fair accusation here). > >Do tell! I love that song -- and the rest of the Ch**2 stuff, up >until that Aguetha Faltskog (sp?) album kind of blew it for me. "Jean Jeanie"! Same rhythm guitar riff, at least. Yeah, I loves that Ch^2 stuff, too ... (and gotta give Phil Wainman, who hooked up Ch^2 & the Sweet, and produced the Yardbirds 'Little Games' a few years prior, credit for being a great svengali-on-a-budget). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 13 19:13:58 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:43:58 +0930 Subject: OFF: Where the ugly things are Message-ID: bye ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:59 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Where the ugly things are > In a message dated 8/13/01 2:59:17 AM, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > > << Give us a kiss anyway ya smelly ole wanka >> > ===== > > you have polluted this board, imbecile. > > i'm not going to stay. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 13 19:15:39 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:45:39 +0930 Subject: can you please settle your tiff in private? (ie OFFLIST) Message-ID: bye ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 10:07 PM Subject: Re: can you please settle your tiff in private? (ie OFFLIST) > my aplogies. > > i'm not going to stay. > enough has been enough. > > "<>" > From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Aug 13 19:14:59 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:14:59 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ballroom Blitz Message-ID: That's agnetha faltskog-one of the `a's in abba tim Eric Siegerman wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 04:55:14PM -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: > > It's probably a good time, then, to mention that if you find a song > > called "Stairway to the Stars", it might also be by the Sweet (no relation > > to the BOC song > > It should be noted that Chet Baker recorded a jazz album called > "Stairway to the Stars" in 1965 -- predating both BOC and Sweet :-/ > (Damn, I love Google -- you never know what you'll turn up...) > > > And (to tie in with > > that other thread again) don't forget that their Chinn/Chapman-penned > > hit "Blockbuster" WAS lifted directly from one of the other big glam hits > > of the day (by a guy who lifted every stage of HIS career from other > > artists, so plagarism isn't a fair accusation here). > > Do tell! I love that song -- and the rest of the Ch**2 stuff, up > until that Aguetha Faltskog (sp?) album kind of blew it for me. > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > necessarily a good idea. > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 13 20:35:21 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:35:21 +0100 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: I'm saying nothing except anyone who calls themselves a Hawkwind fan should own the Starfield CD - any version will do - just do yourself a favour and enjoy it. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > **Sleep Deprevation Without The Safety Tools For Over=The=Road Trucking:** > (is bad-) > > > <> > < 'original' as such - just one edition. > The story is that it got released, then accidentally, 30 were pressed with > an extra track, we had them all, still have about five left, and then it > reverts to the normal one again. > Think that tells it all, > > > You see, it's really a conspiracy on behalf of all parties, as in the end > it's a bad publicity stunt. Keith gets a plug, and others are faced with > the knowledge about the 2 versions of the Star Nation, another time- How > many of the second press you got Andy??? and you know they all tend to > differ on the art slightly- > > the original that I referred to has the individual pages, and this pressing > only got leaked in a lump of 50 or so, which is a collecters nightmare in > the long run- > basically non-obtainable in the bigger picture!~ > > consider that. > if you will. > m From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Aug 13 20:08:17 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:08:17 -0400 Subject: OFF: More bad news in the music scene Message-ID: On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 23:56:32 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >oh jeez - the last friggin' thing we needed........time to raid the shelf >back at the office on Monday!!! >Andy Garibaldi >> >> Man's Ruin Records is apparently closing shop for good... Yeah, just had this verified by a friend who works at a local distributor. Apparently they're already clearing out the offices. Although (ironically) another friend, who actually plays in a band on Man's Ruin, had heard rumors but no official notification. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 13 21:14:08 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Inflatable Ingrid) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:44:08 +0930 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: I bought the Starfield CD ages ago and I play it all time. ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > I'm saying nothing except anyone who calls themselves a Hawkwind fan should > own the Starfield CD - any version will do - just do yourself a favour and > enjoy it. > Andy Garibaldi. From micci at SCI.FI Tue Aug 14 07:02:25 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:02:25 +0300 Subject: HW:Space Ritual japan pressing Message-ID: Hi! Can anyone give me full details original Space Ritual vinyl japan pressing? I just receive it from local musicshop. It?s very nice copy and contains booklet and poster. Serial number was LLP.. something. Is it original? Promo or what? btw. Ozric Tentacles come Finland again! Go to http://www.ozrics.com NP:Dark Sun- Ice Ritual Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.sci.fi/~micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK Tue Aug 14 08:21:17 2001 From: g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK (g.m.wright) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:21:17 +0100 Subject: here & now Message-ID: Hi Folks, I know that this isn't strictly speaking a Hawkwind related item, but, I'm hoping that there's someone out there who can help me chase down copies of any of the tape releases or copies of gigs by Here & Now, or any releases by an 80's festival band called Kharma Kannix. I only got to see KK the once at the Festival of the sunyears ago, and was really pissed off to hear that it was their last gig, they were fantastic, best band there i.m.o. I have no idea what they had released but would love to get hold of any of their music. I have all of the vinyl & cd releases by Here & Now & a copy of Past Masters vol. 1 by Here & Now and would love to get hold of any other of the tape albums and unofficial recordings. If anyone out there can help, can they email me privately. Thanks Geoff geoff wright g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 14 11:03:25 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:03:25 +0100 Subject: Government Drugs Heavy-Metal Fans. Message-ID: www.abcnews.go.com/sections/World/DailyNews/satan010813.html From christmu at EUNET.NO Tue Aug 14 14:11:53 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:11:53 +0200 Subject: OFF: Probot Message-ID: The following news came from www.bravewords.com PROBOT A Foo Goes Metal! Dave Grohl (FOO FIGHTERS) has revealed info on the guests on his PROBOT side project. 'Dictatorsaurus' features Snake (VOIVOD), 'Access Babylon' features Mike Dean (COC), 'Sweet Dreams' features KING DIAMOND and 'Ice Cold Man' features Lee Dorrian (NAPALM DEATH, CATHEDRAL). Other guests appearing on the album include: VENOM's Cronos, Wino (THE OBSESSED, SPIRIT CARAVAN), Kim Thayil (SOUNDGARDEN), Max Cavalera (SEPULTURA, SOULFLY), Lemmy (MOTORHEAD), Tom Araya (SLAYER), Phil Anselmo (PANTERA) and Eric Wagner (TROUBLE). The album's artwork is being done by Voivod drummer Away. --- Chr. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 14 16:40:15 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:40:15 -0600 Subject: HW:Space Ritual japan pressing In-Reply-To: <200108141102.f7EB2PC10636@kauha.saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: Hi!(Hi Mikka) <> It's the original as far as the Japaneese presses go- the reissue comes in just a gatefold sleeve, it has the FINEST sound of ANY Space Ritual on LP (yours does), it is an EXTREME catch, it is worth up to say $300.00- (in fact, if it's mint, all the way around, I can get you that amount for it RIGHT NOW) there are regular copies of this (black labels), and promo copies of this (white promo labels), and there is NOT a lot of difference in rarity between the 2- either one is great, I personally like my black label one better I think,. cause it has some color to it Hows that?? mike c From charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET Tue Aug 14 15:51:39 2001 From: charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET (Charlie Grant) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:51:39 +0100 Subject: BOC: Curse of the hidden mirror Message-ID: First post for ooh - a year! There was also a review in Kerrang! magazine - only gave it 2 K's tho': Review ('scuse typing - and if you've seen it already, I don't always read my mail in the best of memory) >'Latest BOC offering fails to live up to mirror past glories. If you ignored their photos and bloated live shows, New York melodic metal monsters Blue Oyster Cult were really amazing songwriters and a supreme studiio band. Their '76 album 'Agents of Fortune', and the underrated follow up 'Spectres' was even better. But 'CotHM', despite the liberally splattered tasty lead guitar work, dithers, plods and is cluttered with some of the most clumsy and awkward choruses committed to rock songs. What a bunch of Cults!'< Review by Ray Zell. (Hope he doesn't mind me reproducing it :-)) Not exactly glowing or in depth, although some good (unintential?) puns. .......Charles the Grinning Boy. ps: Just bought AoF re-issue and it caused me to look through my 7" vinyl collection and I came accross a promotional only single on the Arista label: On one side 'A Fire of Unknown Origin', Time 2:07, written by Patti Smith and Lenny Kaye from 1979, produced by Todd Rundgren - the words are the same but the music is certainly interesting. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex S. Garcia To: Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 11:03 PM Subject: Re: BOC: Curse of the hidden mirror > >What does anyone make of the very lukewarm review in Classic Rock (UK) > >only 2 stars out of 5 :( The reviewer really didn't like Out of the > >Darkness at all. > > Haven't read the review, but the guy obviously has poor taste :-) > > >I still think it reminds me of Journey, especially the intro. > > Hmm. I didn't get that, odd. Any specific track? Me, I find it reminiscent > of the BOC of olden days. I can't quite put my finger on it, though. Perhaps > something off "Spectres?" Maybe "Fireworks"... > > In any case, it's definitely growing to become my favorite track on the > album. With "The old gods return" coming in close second. > > >The > >only bit I dislike about that song is the ending - Buck should have > >done a second solo there. > > Nah. I find it just fine as is :-) > > I was disappointed they didn't include the lyrics in the liner notes, > though. At least they had on HF. Oh well. > > > > Alex. > > --------------------------------------------------- > http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm > Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] > www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] > Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net > --------------------------------------------------- > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Aug 14 16:09:54 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:09:54 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse of the hidden mirror Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:51:39 +0100, Charlie Grant wrote: >ps: Just bought AoF re-issue and it caused me to look through my 7" vinyl >collection and I came accross a promotional only single on the Arista >label: >On one side 'A Fire of Unknown Origin', Time 2:07, written by Patti Smith >and Lenny Kaye from 1979, produced by Todd Rundgren - the words are the >same but the music is certainly interesting. This is contained as a bonus track on the remastered CD version of either 'Easter' or 'Wave' by the Patti Smith Group. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Tue Aug 14 16:39:44 2001 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:39:44 +0100 Subject: BOC: Curse of the hidden mirror In-Reply-To: <200108112203.SAA04410@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: Alex S. Garcia wrote: >>I still think it reminds me of Journey, especially the intro. > >Hmm. I didn't get that, odd. Any specific track? Me, I find it reminiscent >of the BOC of olden days. I can't quite put my finger on it, though. Perhaps >something off "Spectres?" Maybe "Fireworks"... Not any individual track, just the general feel of the era around the 'Escape' album. The similarity diminishes as soon as the vocals start - Eric sounds nothing like Steve Perry at all! -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Aug 14 17:58:20 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:58:20 +0100 Subject: HW: I'm just sitting watching flowers in the rain - see the power of the rain.... Message-ID: Just been watching the weather forecast - which was probably a mistake..... Friday is supposed to be bright and fine but there's a low pressure system set to build in the Channel area and move North Eastwards on Saturday. They were uncertain how far north the associated rain fronts would travel but they ran a prediction and there was an omminous lump sitting over the top of Kent 8-(( It might be worthwhile checking that the wet weather gear is packed folks..... On the positive side however I'm well known for getting weather predictions TOTALLY wrong so with any luck this will be one of those occasions! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Aug 14 19:47:01 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:47:01 -0400 Subject: HW: I'm just sitting watching flowers in the rain - see the power of the rain.... In-Reply-To: <004b01c1250c$3c23d0e0$cd3a883e@jds>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 10:58:20PM +0100 Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 10:58:20PM +0100, Jill Strobridge wrote: > there's a low > pressure system set to build in the Channel area and move North > Eastwards on Saturday If you don't want it, send it over our way, please :-) We could use some rain. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Aug 14 20:08:34 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:08:34 +0100 Subject: BOC-NEW CD In-Reply-To: <000201c11f52$3bb85500$1e13bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Me please Andy... You have my card details I believe.... Mail address is now :- 88 Wing Road Linslade Leighton Buzzard Beds LU7 2NL Though the card address is (currentlY) still the Burton one. Cheers M8 ChrisW At 19:27 06/08/01, you wrote: >Meanwhile......this just in from our UK Correspondent - order your copy NOW >from CD Services at: >agcdser at aol.com >or >andygee at dial.pipex.com > >========================= >BLUE OYSTER CULT > 'Tales From The Psychic Wars' > > FORMAT: 2 CD SET > > RELEASE DATE: 27th August 2001 > >RETAIL PRICE: ?13.99 > >Disc One: New York 1981 > 1.Dr. Music > 2.Burnin' for you > 3.Fire of unknown origin > 4.Joan Crawford > 5.Veterans of the psychic wars > 6.Hot Rails To Hell > 7.Me 262 > 8.Dont fear the reaper > 9.Godzilla > 10.Born to be wild > 11.5 Guitars > 12.Roadhouse Blues > > Disc two: Pasadena Perkins palace 1983 > 1.Stairways to the stars > 2.Harvester of eyes > 3.Workshop of the telescopes > 4.Beforethe Kiss, > 5.Born to rock > 6.Hot rails to hell > 7.Seven screaming dizbusters > 8.Cities on flame with rock'n roll > 9.Burnin' for you > 10.Joan Crawford > 11.Born to be wild > 12.Don't fear the reaper > 13.Roadhouse Blues > > Two live Shows from the east and west coasts of America. > > Disc one recorded inNew York in 1981 on the"Fire of Unknown Origin" Tour. > Disc two recorded in Pasadena, California in 1983 on a tour that pre-empted >the release of the bands 9th album "The Revolution By Night" in 1983. > > The New York show features 4 tracks from "Fire" aswell as showstoppers from >"Agents of Fortune,"Tyranny and Mutation" "Secret Treaties" "Mirrors" and >"Spectres". > > The Pasadena show features a wealth of earlier material such as Stairway to >the Stars, Before the Kiss a Red Cap, and Workshop of the Telescope aswell >as >"Don't fear the Reaper!!!" "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Aug 14 23:29:20 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:29:20 +0800 Subject: OFF: Ballroom Blitz Message-ID: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:20:46 -0400, Eric Siegerman > wrote: > >> And (to tie in with > >> that other thread again) don't forget that their Chinn/Chapman-penned > >> hit "Blockbuster" WAS lifted directly from one of the other big glam hits > >> of the day (by a guy who lifted every stage of HIS career from other > >> artists, so plagarism isn't a fair accusation here). > > > >Do tell! I love that song -- and the rest of the Ch**2 stuff, up > >until that Aguetha Faltskog (sp?) album kind of blew it for me. > > "Jean Jeanie"! Same rhythm guitar riff, at least. Yeah, I loves that Ch^2 > stuff, too ... (and gotta give Phil Wainman, who hooked up Ch^2 & the > Sweet, and produced the Yardbirds 'Little Games' a few years prior, credit > for being a great svengali-on-a-budget). > Andy Scott (The Sweet's guitarist) said in an interview that when the song made it into the charts the same week as the Bowie song, he was surprised that nobody picked up the similarity. William From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Aug 15 03:13:09 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:13:09 -0600 Subject: HW:Space Ritual japan pressing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: slight further comment- The silver "obi" strip has a lot to do with value- on this and all Japaneese LP's- it's part of the gimmick that "attracts", (or so it seems) -makes a definate distiction to on-lookers of "Whew, respect me, I'm Japaneese made".....but anyway, on this particular press, without the OBI cuts the value down by about a clean $100.00 The poster is so nice on that piece, it could be sold alone for $50.00- and I'll bet you got your whole copy for around $50.00. It happens. On blue moons. m c From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Aug 15 03:55:03 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:55:03 -0600 Subject: Government Drugs Heavy-Metal Fans. In-Reply-To: <200108141503.QAA05581@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <<"www.abcnews.go.com/sections/World/DailyNews/satan010813.html">>(FoFP) Mike!!! by george, they have found a cure for me and my ilk!!! Can you get your hands on some of those tabs??? I'm tired of these old holey Megadeth shirts, they really don't become me!!! and I don't even know where I got this black lipstick, but I never seem to run out- very strange, that. m c From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 15 03:06:37 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 07:06:37 +0000 Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong Message-ID: what,,,, well for 1 moterhead,without wires unlike lemmy kilminster,apperantly to help prevent ,deep purples child in time[though written in 1969].but kilminster knows i love to go O NO to loie loui and as to stond dead well no one has ever died from a joint[spliff]even b o c may have done dont fear the reaper as well as E T I but hawkwind had allready done that symbolicaly , pink floyd did waiting for the cattle trucks[ie trains]and keep talcking [i dont like showers]maybe if they had heard boc eti they may have realised what biblical babylonian name DANIAL had ,you know like orrel and skelmsdale on the map >From: DASLUD at AOL.COM >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: needle gun & headlong >Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:31:28 EDT > >In a message dated 7/29/01 2:30:00 PM, klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM writes: > ><< remember hawkwind did it first. > >> > >say _what_? > >"<>" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Aug 15 03:29:24 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 08:29:24 +0100 Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > what,,,, well for 1 moterhead,without wires unlike lemmy > kilminster,apperantly to help prevent ,deep purples child in time[though > written in 1969].but kilminster knows i love to go O NO to loie > loui and as > to stond dead well no one has ever died from a joint[spliff]even b o c may > have done dont fear the reaper as well as E T I but hawkwind had allready > done that symbolicaly , pink floyd did waiting for the cattle trucks[ie > trains]and keep talcking [i dont like showers]maybe if they had heard boc > eti they may have realised what biblical babylonian name DANIAL had ,you > know like orrel and skelmsdale on the map > > Nope - you've lost me completely there... Cheers, Rich. From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 15 03:32:23 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 07:32:23 +0000 Subject: HW: needle gun & headlong Message-ID: >From: mike c >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: needle gun & headlong >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:08:44 -0600 > >Keith Kirk: >"well i gess that for one hour a lot of people wont be happy moterhead >remember hawkwind did it first." > >still, sword man-on-kliff found busy motorway below cloud-line, no time for >paradox >Christmas prices rising or battle of the bands, one entire hour was the >time I lie, as knights steed must not have watered in haste, lest she got >trough,still trying for that on cd as to christmas first in 90s then again >in 2000 ps would you be of any people who left your head for the red to be >grim ,yet see the end of life no one wins the war ,its not nice what i dont >get how they new it all even though it may have been the 70s for them 80s >for me still not 90s or 2000+ at least no FUCKIKIN WIRES ,so what if we get >stoned ore a bit fucked up on shssssh at least its neither as hurtfull or >deadly as what they do you know why a pig is a swine .ps paradoxical >existance in a parralell world FATE how do you get around that >colic, and not cross >flyover with Sabbath Bloody Sabbath for party-goers with K.O.S. be the GODs and cer for which is ,be the gods and ker for witchs . light refracts and jona was in the belly of a whale so whats that got to do with 4 symbels _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 15 03:44:22 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 07:44:22 +0000 Subject: HW Gigs Message-ID: i do like a pint espacialy at hawkwind gigs 300 miles i hope they have tickets at the door see ya >From: M Holmes >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW Gigs >Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:00:23 +0100 > >david hall writes: > > > Tickets for Glasgow and Edinburgh now acquired. Who is up for a = > > pint...or few? > >I would, but I never ever drink before Hawkwind gigs :-) > >FoFP _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Aug 15 05:39:51 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:39:51 +0100 Subject: BOC: Mojo Magazine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There's a review - well, less a review, more a "Go out and get these they're fantastic but I'm not going to tell you what they sound like" of BOC, T&M, ST & AoF in the new issue of Mojo, along with a 3 weeny paragraph interview with Eric and Buck. (It's the issue with New Order on the front, page 122) Cheers, R. From micci at SCI.FI Wed Aug 15 07:05:58 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:05:58 +0300 Subject: HW:Space Ritual japan pressing Message-ID: Hi! Thanks Mike. Yeah, there is obi. That poster is absolutely beautiful. > slight further comment- > The silver "obi" strip has a lot to do with value- on this and all >Japaneese LP's- it's part of the gimmick that "attracts", (or so it seems) >-makes a definate distiction to on-lookers of "Whew, respect me, I'm >Japaneese made".....but anyway, on this particular press, without the OBI >cuts the value down by about a clean $100.00 > The poster is so nice on that piece, it could be sold alone for $50.00- > and I'll bet you got your whole copy for around $50.00. It happens. On >blue moons. >m c > Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.sci.fi/~micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 15 08:14:26 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:14:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ballroom Blitz In-Reply-To: William Duffy's message of Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:29:20 +0800 Message-ID: William Duffy writes: > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:20:46 -0400, Eric Siegerman > > wrote: > > >> And (to tie in with > > >> that other thread again) don't forget that their Chinn/Chapman-penned > > >> hit "Blockbuster" WAS lifted directly from one of the other big glam > hits > > >> of the day (by a guy who lifted every stage of HIS career from other > > >> artists, so plagarism isn't a fair accusation here). > > > > > >Do tell! I love that song -- and the rest of the Ch**2 stuff, up > > >until that Aguetha Faltskog (sp?) album kind of blew it for me. > > > > "Jean Jeanie"! Same rhythm guitar riff, at least. Yeah, I loves that > Ch^2 > > stuff, too ... (and gotta give Phil Wainman, who hooked up Ch^2 & the > > Sweet, and produced the Yardbirds 'Little Games' a few years prior, credit > > for being a great svengali-on-a-budget). > > > > Andy Scott (The Sweet's guitarist) said in an interview that when the song > made it into the charts the same week as the Bowie song, he was surprised > that nobody picked up the similarity. Blockbuster by the Sweet was the first single I ever bought. I was a big Sweet (and Chicory Tip :-) fan as a kid. In fact somewhere I have a komplete Chicory Tip kollection. > William FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 15 08:15:08 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:15:08 +0100 Subject: HW Gigs In-Reply-To: keith kirk's message of Wed, 15 Aug 2001 07:44:22 +0000 Message-ID: keith kirk writes: > i do like a pint espacialy at hawkwind gigs 300 miles i hope they have > tickets at the door see ya Well I might be persuaded to try this pint thing. FFP > > > >From: M Holmes > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: HW Gigs > >Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:00:23 +0100 > > > >david hall writes: > > > > > Tickets for Glasgow and Edinburgh now acquired. Who is up for a = > > > pint...or few? > > > >I would, but I never ever drink before Hawkwind gigs :-) > > > >FoFP > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Aug 15 08:20:41 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:20:41 +0100 Subject: HW Gigs Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > keith kirk writes: > > > i do like a pint espacialy at hawkwind gigs 300 miles i hope they have > > tickets at the door see ya > > Well I might be persuaded to try this pint thing. Just the one mind :O) Yeah, right. Keef From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 15 09:16:10 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:16:10 +0100 Subject: HW Gigs In-Reply-To: Keith Barton's message of Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:20:41 +0100 Message-ID: Keith Barton writes: > M Holmes wrote: > > > keith kirk writes: > > > > > i do like a pint espacialy at hawkwind gigs 300 miles i hope they have > > > tickets at the door see ya > > > > Well I might be persuaded to try this pint thing. > > Just the one mind :O) Well I've only been using one up to now. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 15 09:43:34 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:43:34 +0100 Subject: Sam Fox CD? Message-ID: Is the Sam Fox CD with the Hawkwind video footage out now? Is it available anywhere? Andy? Stuart? FoFP From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Wed Aug 15 09:52:49 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:52:49 +0100 Subject: HW: New releases Message-ID: Besides the BOC reviews, the current (Sept) issue of Mojo magazine also carries an ad. for the HW autumn tour. At the foot of this, it adds that Hawkwind - Yule Ritual (aka Astoria Dec 2000) Dave Brock - Memos & Demos are both "available now". Is this true? Can anyone confirm? Andy @ CDS? Also - anyone know what the deal is with the Dave Brock CD - is it the much-delayed "76-96" that never materialised a few years ago? Many thanks Dave From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Aug 15 10:00:23 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:00:23 +0100 Subject: Sam Fox CD? In-Reply-To: <200108151343.OAA11820@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, M Holmes wrote: > Is the Sam Fox CD with the Hawkwind video footage out now? Is it > available anywhere? Andy? Stuart? > Yes, and yes. IAN Andy or Stuart, obviously, but Andy and Carl were muttering the other day about it, and it seems that there are two versions availaible, a bogstandard one[1] and a signed one. Kirsten [1] Yes, this *is* a feedline. -- Kirsten Procter ghoti NP: Marillion - Afraid of Sunlight From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Aug 15 10:11:41 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:11:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam Fox CD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Yes, and yes. IAN Andy or Stuart, obviously, but Andy and Carl were > muttering the other day about it, and it seems that there are two > versions availaible, a bogstandard one[1] and a signed one. Well I haven't ordered it myself yet ;), but it's up for sale at http://www.samfox.com/foxshop/quickcat.htm at ?15.50 or ?20.50 signed, + ?4.50 p&p. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Aug 15 10:12:37 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:12:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ballroom Blitz In-Reply-To: <200108151214.NAA17703@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: . > > Blockbuster by the Sweet was the first single I ever bought. I was a big > Sweet (and Chicory Tip :-) fan as a kid. In fact somewhere I have a > komplete Chicory Tip kollection. > Ever tried annoying Welsh people by singing "Land of my Fathers" to the tune of "Son of my Father"? Works every time! :-) Cheers, Rich. NP: Best of Budgie. (Coincidentally!) From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Aug 15 10:31:03 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 07:31:03 -0700 Subject: HW: Sam Fox CD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I thought the planned double with the Mistress of the Universe was to be a re-released (remixed?) "21st Century Fox"? KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Andy Gilham Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 7:12 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Sam Fox CD? > Yes, and yes. IAN Andy or Stuart, obviously, but Andy and Carl were > muttering the other day about it, and it seems that there are two > versions availaible, a bogstandard one[1] and a signed one. Well I haven't ordered it myself yet ;), but it's up for sale at http://www.samfox.com/foxshop/quickcat.htm at ?15.50 or ?20.50 signed, + ?4.50 p&p. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Aug 15 10:38:35 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:38:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam Fox CD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I thought the planned double with the Mistress of the Universe was to be a > re-released (remixed?) "21st Century Fox"? This is the bit from http://www.samfox.com/diary.shtml ---- WATCHING YOU - WATCHING ME (in the 21st Century). What you have all been waiting for! The repackaged, remixed 21st Century Fox album is about to hit the shops. The album features a second disc (CD Rom) which contains video footage, interviews and live footage of Sam in concert with Lemmy & Hawkwind. ---- Although it's still "about to hit the shops" according to the diary page, they are taking orders for it so I guess it's actually available now... Of course if you've already got the 21ST CENTURY FOX album you might fell a bit cheesed off at having to buy it again ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Aug 15 10:42:12 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:42:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dublin pubs Message-ID: Hello fellow dilettantes of drink, Any thoughts on a pub I should definitely check out when in Dublin next week? I've been gathering info from various sources and figured BOC-L would be a good group to poll. I'm looking for places where the drink and conversation are more important than fashion or trendiness. My list so far: Kehoe's The Long Haul O'Donoghue's International Bar Doheny-Nesbit's Pravda Zanzibar Brazen Head Some of these I realize are more "traditional" than others. To bring this post somewhat into the realm of on-topic discussion--Mary Lou Lord has signed a 2 album deal with Rubric Records. The interesting part is that she's going to write with Nick Saloman again on her new album next year. Which reminds me, it's been a few months since the last Frond album came out...the next one should be coming up shortly. ;-) Brian obCD> The Bevis Frond "North Circular" -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio There is no Dana, only Zuul http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Aug 15 11:28:02 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:28:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury Message-ID: Kirsten Procter wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Nick Lee wrote: > > > What campsite are most people using? > > We're not camping, we're hostelling, a place in canterbury itself > called 'Kipps Hostel' > this is almost certainly information of noi use or interest to you, > much like mosrt of my posts :) Thanks to Kirsten. I've now got a bed booked - Hurrah! At least I don't have to sleep in a ditch so I'll be there Friday evening. If anyone's short of accommodation then go here: http://www.kipps-hostel.com or phone 01227 786121 They've got beds available from 11 quid a night. Keef From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Aug 15 13:00:53 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:00:53 -0700 Subject: Dublin pubs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Once again I have gone on the road and forgot to set my boc-l to nomail while I am gone. Could someone please email me with the server addy and the instruction line? Mike mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 15 13:00:59 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:00:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dublin pubs In-Reply-To: Brian Halligan's message of Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:42:12 -0400 Message-ID: Brian Halligan writes: > Hello fellow dilettantes of drink, > > Any thoughts on a pub I should definitely check out when in Dublin next > week? I've been gathering info from various sources and figured BOC-L would > be a good group to poll. > > I'm looking for places where the drink and conversation are more important > than fashion or trendiness. Well if you can travel to the hills just south of Dublin, overlooking the city, Johnny Fox's is worth visiting. If you can travel a few miles into the hills, then Avoca (sp?) is a really nice town and you can of course have a Guinness at the pub, made famous in BBC's "Ballykissangel" series. FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Aug 15 14:06:10 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mkay??) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 12:06:10 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind Remaster Promo Sampler Message-ID: here is the art feast- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OPA-LOKA pretty sharp (imho) NP-nothing. I hate being on a computer when listening- NOTHING against those that do!!!- probably because computer won't fit in music room. mkay. From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Aug 15 13:32:58 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:32:58 +0100 Subject: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix Message-ID: Saw Karma Kanix at Stonehenge 84. Managed to buy a tape from the band!! You must be the only other person who has heard of this mob. A 'Twink' is listed as synth player I think...is this the same guy who filled in when Tim Blake left? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "g.m.wright" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:21:17 +0100 (GMT+01:00) Subject: here & now > Hi Folks, I know that this isn't strictly speaking a Hawkwind related item, = > but, I'm hoping that there's someone out there who can help me chase = > down copies of any of the tape releases or copies of gigs by Here & Now, = > or any releases by an 80's festival band called Kharma Kannix. I only = > got to see KK the once at the Festival of the sunyears ago, and was = > really pissed off to hear that it was their last gig, they were = > fantastic, best band there i.m.o. > I have no idea what they had released but would love to get hold of any = > of their music. > I have all of the vinyl & cd releases by Here & Now & a copy of Past = > Masters vol. 1 by Here & Now and would love to get hold of any other of = > the tape albums and unofficial recordings. > If anyone out there can help, can they email me privately. > Thanks Geoff > > geoff wright > g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk _______________________________________________________________________ FSmail - Get your free web-based email from Freeserve: www.fsmail.net From swann at CUGC.ORG Wed Aug 15 13:31:13 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:31:13 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterthought In-Reply-To: ; from paul@GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 05:29:04PM -0400 Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 05:29:04PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: > On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Doug Pearson wrote: > > => ... and if you've watched many Dario Argento films, you've DEFINITELY seen > => worse ... > > It all becomes clear, now. Steve Swann once encouraged me to listen to > a band who did a soundtrack for a Dario Argento film. All this is Steve > Swann's fault!! I blame Steve Swann! (Blessed be! Some things can > always be relied upon.) > > ;-) Wait - are you telling me now that you didn't like Goblin's soundtrack to _Suspiria_? ;-) Steve From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 15 14:05:04 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:05:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam Fox CD? Message-ID: CD Services have 15 coming in this week of which abbout 8 are taken already so anyone out there - act now - we will get more but this is the first lot. Andy G. andygee at dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gilham" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sam Fox CD? > > I thought the planned double with the Mistress of the Universe was to be a > > re-released (remixed?) "21st Century Fox"? > > This is the bit from http://www.samfox.com/diary.shtml > > ---- > WATCHING YOU - WATCHING ME > (in the 21st Century). > What you have all been waiting for! > The repackaged, remixed 21st Century Fox album is about to hit the shops. > > The album features a second disc (CD Rom) which contains video footage, > interviews and live footage of Sam in concert with Lemmy & Hawkwind. > ---- > > Although it's still "about to hit the shops" according to the diary page, > they are taking orders for it so I guess it's actually available now... > > Of course if you've already got the 21ST CENTURY FOX album you might fell a > bit cheesed off at having to buy it again ;) > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Aug 15 14:56:08 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mkay??) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 12:56:08 -0600 Subject: OFF Moderation/test In-Reply-To: <200108151700.SAA29581@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Is there any moderation or screening that ever takes place on any individual(s) ever, even once??? (here) thanks. mike c From swann at CUGC.ORG Wed Aug 15 13:56:23 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:56:23 -0400 Subject: Huw Rejoins In-Reply-To: ; from robert.stuckey@WCOM.CO.UK on Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 09:56:58AM +0100 Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 09:56:58AM +0100, Stuckey, Robert wrote: > Actually I was listening to Levitation (the album) on the way to work > this > morning and thought that rather than metal, Huw made them sound a bit > Pink Floyd-ey. Now, that drummer Ginger-someone, he was class I'd love > to see him back in Hawkwind!!! lol I've never been able to figure out the anti-Baker sentiment on this list (and many others!), but maybe that's because I don't know much about him at a personal level, or his interactions with the bands that he's been in. With a lot of drummers, the best thing that you can say about them that they keep good time, or don't detract from the sound of the band. Ginger's drumming actually enhances the music, IMO. Too bad he doesn't seem able to get along better with people. Steve From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 15 13:58:37 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:58:37 EDT Subject: OFF Moderation/test In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 15 Aug 2001, at 12:56, Mkay?? wrote: > Is there any moderation or screening that ever takes place on any > individual(s) ever, even once??? (here) > > thanks. > mike c I've never heard of any, but I think it could happen for a couple reasons: Spam Virus attachments Mouse trapping From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 15 14:11:41 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:11:41 +0100 Subject: BOC-NEW CD Message-ID: OK - consider it done - hope to have album in when stated as long as they don;t muck around with the date. Thanks alot, Andy G (CD Services) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Warburton" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 1:08 AM Subject: Re: BOC-NEW CD > Me please Andy... > You have my card details I believe.... > Mail address is now :- > 88 Wing Road > Linslade > Leighton Buzzard > Beds > LU7 2NL > > Though the card address is (currentlY) still the Burton one. > > Cheers M8 > ChrisW > > At 19:27 06/08/01, you wrote: > >Meanwhile......this just in from our UK Correspondent - order your copy NOW > >from CD Services at: > >agcdser at aol.com > >or > >andygee at dial.pipex.com > > > >========================= > >BLUE OYSTER CULT > > 'Tales From The Psychic Wars' > > > > FORMAT: 2 CD SET > > > > RELEASE DATE: 27th August 2001 > > > >RETAIL PRICE: ?13.99 > > > >Disc One: New York 1981 > > 1.Dr. Music > > 2.Burnin' for you > > 3.Fire of unknown origin > > 4.Joan Crawford > > 5.Veterans of the psychic wars > > 6.Hot Rails To Hell > > 7.Me 262 > > 8.Dont fear the reaper > > 9.Godzilla > > 10.Born to be wild > > 11.5 Guitars > > 12.Roadhouse Blues > > > > Disc two: Pasadena Perkins palace 1983 > > 1.Stairways to the stars > > 2.Harvester of eyes > > 3.Workshop of the telescopes > > 4.Beforethe Kiss, > > 5.Born to rock > > 6.Hot rails to hell > > 7.Seven screaming dizbusters > > 8.Cities on flame with rock'n roll > > 9.Burnin' for you > > 10.Joan Crawford > > 11.Born to be wild > > 12.Don't fear the reaper > > 13.Roadhouse Blues > > > > Two live Shows from the east and west coasts of America. > > > > Disc one recorded inNew York in 1981 on the"Fire of Unknown Origin" Tour. > > Disc two recorded in Pasadena, California in 1983 on a tour that pre-empted > >the release of the bands 9th album "The Revolution By Night" in 1983. > > > > The New York show features 4 tracks from "Fire" aswell as showstoppers from > >"Agents of Fortune,"Tyranny and Mutation" "Secret Treaties" "Mirrors" and > >"Spectres". > > > > The Pasadena show features a wealth of earlier material such as Stairway to > >the Stars, Before the Kiss a Red Cap, and Workshop of the Telescope aswell > >as > >"Don't fear the Reaper!!!" > > > "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - > Bierce > > So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 15 14:30:01 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:30:01 +0100 Subject: HW: New releases Message-ID: no - the two CD's in question are not 'available now' - this is that old thing that gets right up the collective nose of shops and mail orders - you see the mags like this have ad deadlines - for the ad you have seen to be as it is, menas that the ad would have to have been submitted to the magazine at least two weeks BEFORE the time the mag came out, meaning any label would have had to have prepared it before then. It is a common occurrence that the likes of Mojo and Q feature ads for CD's that say 'available now' - what this means is that the next issue comes out AFTER thealbum in question's release and so, if the MAJOR labels are to avoid missing the boat , they'd rather say it's out now so that the punter goes amd contacts the dealer who thinks there is demand and orders it - only thing is that the punter generally doesn't believe the dealer who says 'no mate, not out yet' ("after all the ad says it's out and that is more likely to be correct, isn't it!") and then goes and asks another dealer who says 'not sure - I'll have to check' and so uncertainty enters the equation so they try some one else. All this time we now have three dealers who think there is demand for the album, all of whom order it for the demand when in actual fact there's only the one guy trying to get it. So, the companies get the benefit of bigger pre-orders and the shops hope there's someone there for it. The companies would rather 'create false demand' than miss the boat entirely. In the case of these two CD's, it's probably slightly different in that the label may well have intended to get the CD out by the time the ad was printed but rather than, again, miss out and advertise AFTER the CD is released, and because of the deadlines for ads being so far before release date, again better to be safe than sorry and that way at least you create awreness at the risk of some frustration for the punter and a complete headache for the dealer. There is, I suppose, the possibility that both have been pressed and that they will be on sale at this weekend's concert, in which case CD Services will have it in a few days later for those that would rather spend the money on things they can only get at the event.. So, the bottom line is that both releases cannot be far away and that the forthcoming CD Services supplement will feature both as an offer price, but I will phone the label up tomorrow, find out the details let you know. As to the Brock album's contents, first I've heard of it - no one tells us anything for reasons I still can't fathom!!. Hope you don't mind the waffle; Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Bottomley" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: HW: New releases > Besides the BOC reviews, the current (Sept) issue of Mojo magazine also > carries an ad. for the HW autumn tour. At the foot of this, it adds that > > Hawkwind - Yule Ritual (aka Astoria Dec 2000) > Dave Brock - Memos & Demos > > are both "available now". > > Is this true? Can anyone confirm? Andy @ CDS? > > Also - anyone know what the deal is with the Dave Brock CD - is it the > much-delayed "76-96" that never materialised a few years ago? > > Many thanks > > Dave From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Aug 15 15:09:45 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:09:45 -0600 Subject: OFF Moderation/test In-Reply-To: <3B7A800C.32638.179DEDD@localhost> Message-ID: Hi Ted a certain post of mine won't go (or it seems) (sent twice)- while others do weird mike From swann at CUGC.ORG Wed Aug 15 14:08:47 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:08:47 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterforeverthoughts In-Reply-To: ; from nycademon@HOME.COM on Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 10:02:31PM -0600 Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 10:02:31PM -0600, Guido N. Vacano wrote: > No, it's Steve Swann's fault! It has to be!!! :-) > > Guido Hey! :) The original charter for this group said (about 18 times) that while disagreement and enlightened debate were encouraged, rudeness was totally disallowed. The list does seem to have gotten a lot more openly rude lately. Think it's the hot weather? Steve From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 15 14:17:26 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:17:26 EDT Subject: (OFF) afterforeverthoughts In-Reply-To: <20010815140847.D18866@cugc.org> Message-ID: On 15 Aug 2001, at 14:08, Stephen Swann wrote: > On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 10:02:31PM -0600, Guido N. Vacano wrote: > > No, it's Steve Swann's fault! It has to be!!! :-) > > > > Guido > > Hey! :) The original charter for this group said (about 18 times) > that while disagreement and enlightened debate were encouraged, > rudeness was totally disallowed. > > The list does seem to have gotten a lot more openly rude lately. > Think it's the hot weather? > No! It's your fault! theo From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 15 14:36:58 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:36:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ballroom Blitz Message-ID: so it was YOU was it - bet you've also got 'Me and You and a dog named Boo' by Lobo and 'Hanging ON By A Thread' by Farquahr (oh no - that's me - sorry about that). Andy Garibaldi (revealing pop streak) ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 1:14 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Ballroom Blitz > William Duffy writes: > > > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:20:46 -0400, Eric Siegerman > > > wrote: > > > >> And (to tie in with > > > >> that other thread again) don't forget that their Chinn/Chapman-penned > > > >> hit "Blockbuster" WAS lifted directly from one of the other big glam > > hits > > > >> of the day (by a guy who lifted every stage of HIS career from other > > > >> artists, so plagarism isn't a fair accusation here). > > > > > > > >Do tell! I love that song -- and the rest of the Ch**2 stuff, up > > > >until that Aguetha Faltskog (sp?) album kind of blew it for me. > > > > > > "Jean Jeanie"! Same rhythm guitar riff, at least. Yeah, I loves that > > Ch^2 > > > stuff, too ... (and gotta give Phil Wainman, who hooked up Ch^2 & the > > > Sweet, and produced the Yardbirds 'Little Games' a few years prior, credit > > > for being a great svengali-on-a-budget). > > > > > > > Andy Scott (The Sweet's guitarist) said in an interview that when the song > > made it into the charts the same week as the Bowie song, he was surprised > > that nobody picked up the similarity. > > Blockbuster by the Sweet was the first single I ever bought. I was a big > Sweet (and Chicory Tip :-) fan as a kid. In fact somewhere I have a > komplete Chicory Tip kollection. > > > William > > FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 15 14:38:26 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:38:26 +0100 Subject: HW Gigs Message-ID: there's also this thing apparently called 'half pint' (or is that the reggae guy). Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:16 PM Subject: Re: HW Gigs > Keith Barton writes: > > > M Holmes wrote: > > > > > keith kirk writes: > > > > > > > i do like a pint espacialy at hawkwind gigs 300 miles i hope they have > > > > tickets at the door see ya > > > > > > Well I might be persuaded to try this pint thing. > > > > Just the one mind :O) > > Well I've only been using one up to now. > > FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 15 14:48:43 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:48:43 +0100 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: jeez - if you've ever had to sit through the live version of 'Toad' you'll know why people aren't that keen on the guy. (apologies to any drummers on the list) Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Swann" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:56 PM Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 09:56:58AM +0100, Stuckey, Robert wrote: > > Actually I was listening to Levitation (the album) on the way to work > > this > > morning and thought that rather than metal, Huw made them sound a bit > > Pink Floyd-ey. Now, that drummer Ginger-someone, he was class I'd love > > to see him back in Hawkwind!!! lol > > I've never been able to figure out the anti-Baker sentiment > on this list (and many others!), but maybe that's because I > don't know much about him at a personal level, or his > interactions with the bands that he's been in. With a lot > of drummers, the best thing that you can say about them that > they keep good time, or don't detract from the sound of the > band. Ginger's drumming actually enhances the music, IMO. > Too bad he doesn't seem able to get along better with > people. > > Steve From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 15 14:52:01 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:52:01 +0100 Subject: (OFF) afterforeverthoughts Message-ID: Is this the right room for an argument................. Andy G. > No! It's your fault! > > theo From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Aug 15 14:45:18 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:45:18 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:31:13 -0400, Stephen Swann wrote: >On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 05:29:04PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: >> On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Doug Pearson wrote: >> >> => ... and if you've watched many Dario Argento films, you've DEFINITELY seen >> => worse ... >> >> It all becomes clear, now. Steve Swann once encouraged me to listen to >> a band who did a soundtrack for a Dario Argento film. All this is Steve >> Swann's fault!! I blame Steve Swann! (Blessed be! Some things can >> always be relied upon.) >> >> ;-) > >Wait - are you telling me now that you didn't like Goblin's soundtrack >to _Suspiria_? ;-) I hope not! (One of these days, I NEED to put together a Goblin tribute band ...) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 15 14:49:30 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:49:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ballroom Blitz In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:36:58 +0100 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > Blockbuster by the Sweet was the first single I ever bought. I was a big > > Sweet (and Chicory Tip :-) fan as a kid. In fact somewhere I have a > > komplete Chicory Tip kollection. > so it was YOU was it - bet you've also got 'Me and You and a dog named Boo' > by Lobo and 'Hanging ON By A Thread' No, but I did have "Ernie: The Fastest Milkman in the West" by Benny Hill, "Funky Moped" by Jasper Carrott, "The Galaxy Song" by Monty Python (with the famous "Every Sperm is Sacred" b-side and "Alley Oop" by god alone knows who. FoFP From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Aug 15 15:00:56 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:00:56 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterforeverthoughts In-Reply-To: <013001c125bb$5f4a4720$439abc3e@s8d3c4>; from andygee@DIAL.PIPEX.COM on Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 07:52:01PM +0100 Message-ID: No, this is Flame War. Next list along the corridor ... and pray. On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 07:52:01PM +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > Is this the right room for an argument................. > Andy G. > > > No! It's your fault! > > > > theo -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From ben at TMK.COM Wed Aug 15 15:11:39 2001 From: ben at TMK.COM (Ben Cohen) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:11:39 -0400 Subject: ADMIN: Fun's over folks... Message-ID: Ok. Once again, although this list tends towards being self-moderated, it's getting ready to completely get out of control... Hence... The current significantly off-topic stuff stops NOW. I will not provide any further warnings, but the next person who posts on any of the topics that have degenerated to flame-bait will be dealt with. The minimum penalty will be forced unsubscription with possible longer-term banning if you don't get the clue from needing to resubscribe to the list. This list is NOT for anything other than reasonable, adult (e.g., "grown-up") discussion of the bands that we're about. Occasional, non-flamage, tangential discussions are acceptable. Anything that degenerates into the cesspool isn't. If you're not sure, there are two simple choices: 1) Ask ME (not the list) if it will be acceptable 2) Don't do it It's that simple folks. If you have any questions about this, you may direct them to me and not to the list. This policy (and my feelings on this matter) are not for open analysis or discussion. Period. Sorry to go all Gestapo on you, but, evidently, some people are not being sufficiently self-clued... We now return you to your regularly scheduled HW/BOC/Brain Surgeons discussion. Ben Cohen, moderator, BOC-L From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Wed Aug 15 15:14:20 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:14:20 -0600 Subject: Huw Rejoins In-Reply-To: <012a01c125bb$2e71b340$439abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: More apologies to drummers in advance- Q: What do you call a drummer wearing a three piece suit? A: The defendant Mark L -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins jeez - if you've ever had to sit through the live version of 'Toad' you'll know why people aren't that keen on the guy. (apologies to any drummers on the list) Andy Garibaldi From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Aug 15 15:51:01 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:51:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ballroom Blitz Message-ID: On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:49:30 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >No, but I did have "Ernie: The Fastest Milkman in the West" by Benny >Hill, "Funky Moped" by Jasper Carrott, "The Galaxy Song" by Monty Python >(with the famous "Every Sperm is Sacred" b-side and "Alley Oop" by god >alone knows who. The Hollywood Argyles, produced by the infamous Kim Fowley (who is interviewed in the latest issue of 'Ugly Things' ... this may be the best rock musician interview I've EVER read ... it shows how truly pathetic VH1's 'Behind the Music' is ... this is the REAL dirt!). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK Wed Aug 15 16:20:45 2001 From: g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK (g.m.wright) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:20:45 +0100 Subject: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix Message-ID: WOW!!!! I dont think twink was with them whem i saw them, he was busy with the pinkwind project, also playing the festival. I remember Kharma Kannix as a guitar based band, I dont recall kbs/synth, but then memory is a strange thing. Yes I think that would be the twink. Would you be interested in trading a copy of the tape for anything i've got by here & now? Cheers Geoff Live Floating Anarchy '77 (charly CRM 2000). Opium for the People (AFS 101). Dog in Hell EP (Charly CEP 122 - '78). Give & Take (Charly NOW1). What you see... (Deptford fun city DLP 02) - live with ATV All over the show (Charly NOW2) live the end of the beginning (CYS 1055) Fantasy Shift (Chick CHRL003) Theatre (Landslide LANDLP103) Standing forever12" (Scratch HANCAN 1) U.F.Oasis (Now Here CD001) Gospel of Free (Gas AGASCD015) THIS CD IS STILL AVAILABLE FROM GAS Past Masters vol 1 (CASS001) Live Floating Anarchy 1991 (GAS003) Opium for the people ? studio french lyrics. geoff wright g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu Date: 15 August 2001 18:34 Subject: Re: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix >Saw Karma Kanix at Stonehenge 84. Managed to buy a tape from the band!! You must be the only other person who has heard of this mob. A 'Twink' is listed as synth player I think...is this the same guy who filled in when Tim Blake left? > >Dave >----- Original Message ----- >From: "g.m.wright" >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Sent: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:21:17 +0100 (GMT+01:00) >Subject: here & now > >> Hi Folks, I know that this isn't strictly speaking a Hawkwind related item, = >> but, I'm hoping that there's someone out there who can help me chase = >> down copies of any of the tape releases or copies of gigs by Here & Now, = >> or any releases by an 80's festival band called Kharma Kannix. I only = >> got to see KK the once at the Festival of the sunyears ago, and was = >> really pissed off to hear that it was their last gig, they were = >> fantastic, best band there i.m.o. >> I have no idea what they had released but would love to get hold of any = >> of their music. >> I have all of the vinyl & cd releases by Here & Now & a copy of Past = >> Masters vol. 1 by Here & Now and would love to get hold of any other of = >> the tape albums and unofficial recordings. >> If anyone out there can help, can they email me privately. >> Thanks Geoff >> >> geoff wright >> g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk > > > > >_______________________________________________________________________ >FSmail - Get your free web-based email from Freeserve: www.fsmail.net > From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Wed Aug 15 14:54:07 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:54:07 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: Didn't Goblin also do the soundtrack to Dawn of the Dead?? Dr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Doug Pearson [SMTP:jasret at MINDSPRING.COM] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 11:45 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: (OFF) afterthought On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:31:13 -0400, Stephen Swann wrote: >On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 05:29:04PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: >> On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Doug Pearson wrote: >> >> => ... and if you've watched many Dario Argento films, you've DEFINITELY seen >> => worse ... >> >> It all becomes clear, now. Steve Swann once encouraged me to listen to >> a band who did a soundtrack for a Dario Argento film. All this is Steve >> Swann's fault!! I blame Steve Swann! (Blessed be! Some things can >> always be relied upon.) >> >> ;-) > >Wait - are you telling me now that you didn't like Goblin's soundtrack >to _Suspiria_? ;-) I hope not! (One of these days, I NEED to put together a Goblin tribute band ...) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Aug 15 17:15:24 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:15:24 -0400 Subject: (OFF) afterthought Message-ID: On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:54:07 -0400, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] wrote: >Didn't Goblin also do the soundtrack to Dawn of the Dead?? Yes. They had already done the soundtrack for the Italian (European?), but not American, release of George Romero's 'Martin' (title 'Wampyr' in Europe, IIRC), his movie about the guy who *thinks* he's a vampire (and maybe is?) ... 'Suspira' is a major pinnacle for both them and Argento, IMO; seriously creepy stuff and shocking dynamics both on-screen and in the soundtrack ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Aug 15 18:14:28 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:14:28 -0400 Subject: Huw Rejoins Message-ID: re:toad...and any other long drum solo... in the old days(wheeze),many people went to concerts stoned(puff,puff)(not me) and the drum solos had a whole different ambience in that condition than perhaps listening in an upright condition (IMO) tim ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > > jeez - if you've ever had to sit through the live version of 'Toad' you'll > know why people aren't that keen on the guy. > (apologies to any drummers on the list) > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Swann" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:56 PM > Subject: Re: Huw Rejoins > > > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 09:56:58AM +0100, Stuckey, Robert wrote: > > > Actually I was listening to Levitation (the album) on the way to > work > > > this > > > morning and thought that rather than metal, Huw made them sound a > bit > > > Pink Floyd-ey. Now, that drummer Ginger-someone, he was class I'd > love > > > to see him back in Hawkwind!!! lol > > > > I've never been able to figure out the anti-Baker sentiment > > on this list (and many others!), but maybe that's because I > > don't know much about him at a personal level, or his > > interactions with the bands that he's been in. With a lot > > of drummers, the best thing that you can say about them that > > they keep good time, or don't detract from the sound of the > > band. Ginger's drumming actually enhances the music, IMO. > > Too bad he doesn't seem able to get along better with > > people. > > > > Steve From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Aug 15 18:16:14 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 23:16:14 +0100 Subject: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- > From: g.m.wright > > WOW!!!! > I dont think twink was with them whem i saw them, he was busy with the > pinkwind project, also playing the festival. I remember Kharma Kannix as a > guitar based band, I dont recall kbs/synth, but then memory is a strange > thing. Yes I think that would be the twink. Correct me if I'm wrong, please, somebody, but I think there are two Twinks. The Twink of Pink Fairies and occasionally Nik Turner plays drums. The Twink who stood in briefly as a Tim Blake replacement was a roadie of that name. Without knowing anything more than that I would suggest that the synth player mentioned is more than likely to be the other Twink rather than the Pink Fairies Twink. Confusingly jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu Date: 15 August 2001 18:34 Subject: Re: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix >Saw Karma Kanix at Stonehenge 84. Managed to buy a tape from the band!! You must be the only other person who has heard of this mob. A 'Twink' is listed as synth player I think...is this the same guy who filled in when Tim Blake left? > From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Wed Aug 15 17:37:38 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:37:38 -0400 Subject: HW-Spirit of the Age Message-ID: Hmmm. I was playing the song Spirit of the Age recently and, at about the same time, was watching an old Twilight Zone episode called The Long Morrow. There are some very interesting similarities!! Anyone else ever notice it? Comments? And of course, you could hear the control voice from the Outer Limits on Choose Your Masques. Just thought I'd bring the list back to Hawkwind related talk. Work is slow today!! Dr. Dan From jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE Wed Aug 15 18:44:37 2001 From: jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE (jc) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 23:44:37 +0100 Subject: bank of Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <000f01c123ad$9022d200$eecb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: Could anyone tell me what the "nine bobs" Bank of Hawkwind banknotes actually were? Thanks jean From achad13 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 15 19:46:29 2001 From: achad13 at HOTMAIL.COM (dave evans) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:46:29 +0100 Subject: Ginger Baker, Dublin, Posting to list by mistake and Moderation of List Message-ID: Yeah; Ginger is/was a great drummer.... but then you see him and his roadies fighting on stage with Roy Harper about RH playing a few minutes over his time limit at Glastonbury ('81 I think), eventually pulling the plug and busting some equipment in order to get Harper offstage and you just sigh at another primadonna asshole For pubs in Dublin and other such offlist queries can I suggest going to Lonely Planet travel site rather than clog up this list? Chris W; heck you are lucky you didn't post your credit card number to the list with your snailmail address.... I wouldn't have, but you can bet ** someone ** would be off on a spree with it by now, maybe posts like that should be moderated just to protect the sender? And this leads nicely up to : re: Ben's The current significantly off-topic stuff stops NOW. Hooray and thankyou! Was about to chuck it all in....... and finally an on-topic question: does anyone have audio/video/photos/memories of the August 99 Cornwall eclipse party near Helston? Was an odd day and don't recall much of it, other than it getting dark, then getting light, a bloke in the campsite waving a sword about and then a lot of Hawkwindy noise in a small marquee. cheers dave evans From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Wed Aug 15 19:15:53 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:15:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: HW: Harvest box set, cheap! In-Reply-To: <002f01c1212c$21986e40$0997bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Belatedly... H*ly Sh*t B*tm*n - I paid the best part of fifty quid to get my mitts on that! There are the inevitable "sins of omission & commission", but if you're into the period it's a fantastic set... ChrisW At 00:36 10/08/01, you wrote: >25 dollars!!!!!!!!!! Jeez - that's less than the dealer cost price ex-VAT >over here - second only to the other guy's Undisclosed Files Metal Shield as >bargain shop purchase of the year to date, methinks. >Andy G. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Doug Pearson" >To: >Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:33 PM >Subject: OFF: HW: Harvest box set, cheap! > > > > Hi, > > > > Just stopped by my local Tower Records, and picked up one of the two >copies > > they had of the 5-CD set ('Harvest Festival'). Includes Hawkwind-related > > acts such as Third Ear Band, Kevin Ayers, Pink Floyd, Edgar Broughton >Band, > > Pretty Things, as well as tons of other (mostly - there's some ELO, too) > > cool artists ranging from Deep Purple and Roy Harper to Wire and the > > Saints, including a few rare/non-LP tracks (all previously-released > > material). > > > > At US$25 for 5 CD's plus a huge (120-page) hardbound book (it's not > > actually a box), it's a steal! The store had one more copy, which I'll > > pick up for the first person who sends me a private Email (assuming >someone > > else doesn't buy it first). It's big & heavy, so shipping will definitely > > add a few $$. > > > > -Doug > > jasret at mindspring.com "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Wed Aug 15 20:10:11 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:10:11 +0100 Subject: Off: Re: Ginger Baker, Dublin, Posting to list by mistake and Moderation of List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 00:46 16/08/01, you wrote: >Yeah; Ginger is/was a great drummer.... but then you see him and his roadies >fighting on stage with Roy Harper about RH playing a few minutes over his >time limit at Glastonbury ('81 I think), eventually pulling the plug and >busting some equipment in order to get Harper offstage and you just sigh at >another primadonna asshole I concur - though I haven't seen the vid footage, I've been around long enough to know about Ginger's more unfortunate(?) personality traits. Apparently the U.S. has finally kicked him off his horse ranch (taxes?) & according to a second hand report of Jack Bruce's interview on Jonathan Ross, GB is now living in semi-squalor in South Africa & is broke (again!). >Chris W; heck you are lucky you didn't post your credit card number to the >list with your snailmail address.... I wouldn't have, but you can bet ** >someone ** would be off on a spree with it by now, maybe posts like that >should be moderated just to protect the sender? Yes... big oops there - I'd even cut Andy's mail addy ready to overwrite after I hit reply - but I never put the two items in the same mail for that very reason. Needless to say, if anybody wants to get acquainted, you know where I live. Limited crash space available for after the Hitchin Town Hall show - it's just down the road; priority to the long distance visitors! *g* >And this leads nicely up to >: > >re: Ben's The current significantly off-topic stuff stops NOW. >Hooray and thankyou! Was about to chuck it all in....... I'd not got that far, but my delete button is looking v. tired tonight after catching up on 2-3 weeks worth of mail!!! ChrisW From HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM Wed Aug 15 21:26:26 2001 From: HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM (Dave Hess) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:26:26 EDT Subject: off/Tangerine Dream US tour dates Message-ID: PS: "YES" indicates a confirmed date. Oct 13th Boynton Beach, FL Orbit NOT YET Oct 14th St. Petersburg, FL Janus Landing NOT YET Oct 16th Atlanta,GA Variety Playhouse YES Oct 19th New York City BB King Blues Club NOT YET Oct 20th Philadelphia, PA Theatre of Living Arts YES Oct 21st Uncasville, CT Mohegan Sun YES Oct 23rd Boston, MA Scullers Jazz Club YES Oct 24th Buffalo, NY The Trail NOT YET Oct 25th Alexandria, VA Birchmere NOT YET Oct 26th Rochester, NY Water St. Music Hall NOT YET Oct 27th Pittsburgh, PA Rosebud NOT YET Oct 29th Cincinnati, OH Bogart's NOT YET Oct 30th Cleveland, OH The Odeon NOT YET Nov 01st Detroit, MI Second City NOT YET Nov 02nd Chicago, IL House of Blues NOT YET Nov 03rd Milwaukee, WI Riverside Theatre NOT YET Nov 04th Minneapolis, MN First Avenue NOT YET Nov 06th Denver, CO Paramount NOT YET Nov 08th San Francisco, CA Fillmore NOT YET Nov 09th Ventura, CA Ventura Theatre NOT YET Nov 10th Anaheim, CA House of Blues YES Nov 11th Los Angeles, CA House of Blues (West Hollywood) YES Nov 14th Portland, OR Aladdin YES Nov 15th Seattle, WA Showbox YES C-Yaaaaaaaaaa Dave I I /\\ /I /\ /--l--I\ I I---\ I-- I----\ I------I /----\\ /\ / I/ \ /\ / I I \ I I I I- I I I I/ \\/ \/ I \ \/ \/ --I--I \I I__/ I_ I__/ From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Thu Aug 16 01:47:47 2001 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 15:47:47 +1000 Subject: BOC: Possible BOC Reference Message-ID: I bought a game a while back called "Descent II" and I recently started playing around with the cheat codes to see what they did (and to help work out some of the harder bits of the game). One of the codes is "GODZILLA" and I was taken aback the other day when I typed it in and a message appeared on the screen saying "Oh, No! There goes Tokyo!". Do you think one of the software team is a BOC fan or is this line from one of the movies or something? Or just a coincidence? Perhaps a vague reference at best, but it was the first thing I thought of. Pete. ObCD: Uriah Heep - Sonic Origami -- *************************************************************************** Peter Sondergeld p.sondergeld at qut.edu.au "I'm no stranger to hard work - more of a nodding acquaintance." - D.G. Harris **************************************** From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Thu Aug 16 02:39:10 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:39:10 +0200 Subject: HW:new release Message-ID: Hej, saw this on CDZone.. What the hell is it? Dave Anderson again?? New Release 20 Aug 2001 Hawkwind: Time Boom X De Devil Dead (Audio CD) 5300282 ?9.62 What ever happened to the Hawkwind- Ledge of Darkness concept CD? Is that totally dead now? I sort of figure that if Dave had actually written any songs for it when it was started like 4 years ago, we would have heard something by now? scott OBCD- MiloZ- Live and Bumpin' (NYC funk) From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Thu Aug 16 03:42:42 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 03:42:42 -0400 Subject: HW tour / Sam Fox CD? Message-ID: Apparently not, even the sam fox website doesn't know, because obviously I had to go see:-) Up to 3 shows - Edinburgh, Glasgow and Newcastle Mr Quimbys Beard not playing Newcastle, coming to Edinburgh instead, I'm now distributing their stuff at; http://the-rocker.netfirms.com/beard.html Sorry Andy G:-) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:43:34 +0100 From: M Holmes Subject: Sam Fox CD? Is the Sam Fox CD with the Hawkwind video footage out now? Is it available anywhere? Andy? Stuart? FoFP From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Thu Aug 16 03:46:40 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 03:46:40 -0400 Subject: HW tour / Sam Fox CD? - retaraction / amendment Message-ID: Apparently yes, but it's being distributed by Sam herself at www.samfox.com I have a blinding hangover this morning having watched Holland hump England am no longer responsible for my actions. Stuart Apparently not, even the sam fox website doesn't know, because obviously I had to go see:-) Up to 3 shows - Edinburgh, Glasgow and Newcastle Mr Quimbys Beard not playing Newcastle, coming to Edinburgh instead, I'm now distributing their stuff at; http://the-rocker.netfirms.com/beard.html Sorry Andy G:-) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:43:34 +0100 From: M Holmes Subject: Sam Fox CD? Is the Sam Fox CD with the Hawkwind video footage out now? Is it available anywhere? Andy? Stuart? FoFP From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Aug 16 04:57:16 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:57:16 +0100 Subject: HW:new release Message-ID: "SHLL (Scott Heller)" wrote: > What ever happened to the Hawkwind- Ledge of Darkness concept CD? Is that > totally dead now? I sort of figure that if Dave had actually written any > songs for it when it was started like 4 years ago, we would have heard > something by now? Hey Scott, You'll probably find that it'll manifest itself as "Destruction Of The Death Generator" That's what Ledge Of Darkness was all about. Check out Mission Control for more info. Keef P.S. On a tenuously related topic - http://www.hamilton.net/salvage/page11.html - Someone's looking for Delatron Pulsators.....hmmmm. From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu Aug 16 05:01:05 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:01:05 +0100 Subject: bank of Hawkwind Message-ID: Hi Jean, The nine Bob notes were a couterfeit five pound note from i think the1984 winter tour Hawkwind did.( captured on the Preston Video Night of the Hawks ) Uncle Nick Threw a handful of these fake fivers into the audience during a track which he sang "shovel it in the front and shit it out of the back", while he goose stepped around the stage, eventually using the stars and strips to wipe his bottom with. Well thats what he did at the bristol gig Honest !! Maybe someone could scan this in for you, unfortuanetly I dont have a way of scanning. or it maybe already on someones web site. Regards Iain jc wrote: > Could anyone tell me what the "nine bobs" Bank of Hawkwind banknotes > actually were? > Thanks > > jean From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 16 06:02:10 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:02:10 +0100 Subject: bank of Hawkwind In-Reply-To: iain ferguson's message of Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:01:05 +0100 Message-ID: iain ferguson writes: > The nine Bob notes were a couterfeit five pound note from i think > the1984 winter tour Hawkwind did.( captured on the Preston Video Night > of the Hawks ) Uncle Nick Threw a handful of these fake fivers into the > audience during a track which he sang "shovel it in the front and shit > it out of the back" About as good a description of what Greenspan and the Government Sponsored Enterprises are doing to support The Great US Credit Bubble right this minute. What happens when people discover that mortgage-backed assets are not the same thing as US Dollars/Treasuries after all will be pretty much like trying to spend a nine bob note. Mike "Tuplips. Get yer luverly tulips!" Holmes From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Aug 16 08:46:55 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:46:55 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 15 Aug 2001 to 16 Aug 2001 (#2001-319) Message-ID: > > > I bought a game a while back called "Descent II" and I recently started > playing around with the cheat codes to see what they did (and to help work > out some of the harder bits of the game). One of the codes is "GODZILLA" > and I was taken aback the other day when I typed it in and a message > appeared on the screen saying "Oh, No! There goes Tokyo!". Do you think one > of the software team is a BOC fan or is this line from one of the movies or > something? Or just a coincidence? Perhaps a vague reference at best, but it > was the first thing I thought of. No, I am pretty sure that this is definitely a BOC reference. The line "Oh no - there goes Tokyo" is from the BOC lyrics, and as far as I know, Buck didn't get that lyric from a Godzilla movie or anything. Sounds to me like someone on the s/w team is either a fan, or at least familiar with the song. John From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Aug 16 08:52:06 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:52:06 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 15 Aug 2001 to 16 Aug 2001 (#2001-319) In-Reply-To: <3B7BC0BE.4377C817@mitre.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, John A. Swartz wrote: > "Oh no - there goes Tokyo" is from the BOC lyrics, and as far as I know, > Buck didn't get that lyric from a Godzilla movie or anything. Sounds to > me like someone on the s/w team is either a fan, or at least familiar > with the song. > Which, let's face it, is not the same thing, not even a little bit. -- Kirsten Procter ghoti O Brave new world, that has such people in it From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Aug 16 10:34:07 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 15:34:07 +0100 Subject: HW:new release In-Reply-To: <27839F4FFBF6D21181E20008C7C5640806C008BB@exdkba04.novo.dk> Message-ID: In message <27839F4FFBF6D21181E20008C7C5640806C008BB at exdkba04. novo.dk>, SHLL (Scott Heller) writes >Hej, > >saw this on CDZone.. What the hell is it? Dave Anderson again?? > >New Release 20 Aug 2001 Hawkwind: Time Boom X De Devil Dead This *has* to be a mistake, as this is the name of an album by mad reggae genius Lee 'Scratch' Perry, came about '87 if memory serves. Excellent album if you like stoned reggae rhythms with oodles of sonic trickery laid over the top... which I do, but it sounds nothing whatever like Hawkwind. -- Nick Medford From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Thu Aug 16 11:31:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:31:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam FOx video footage Message-ID: So.... now that it's out, any volunteers to grab the version with CD-ROM and tell us if it's worth buying? Andy, maybe you could break open the shrinkwrap when it arrives and give it a play on your PC, then tell us what the deal is? ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 16 14:35:53 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:35:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam FOx video footage Message-ID: will do - when it arrives which should have been today but maybe tomorrow - getting the Sam Fox people to deliever CD's is not proving the easiest of tasks and I'm hoping for third time lucky here. Other than that, latest news at CDS towers is: 1)Hawkwind promo CD for jewel case reissues that Mikey C mentioned - our wonderfully efficient EMI telesales girl knew nothing about it but is looking into it. If it does exist, I do not expect to get one, now. 2) The Hawkwind jewel case reissues of the first five albums are in tomorrow, so I will be comparing sound to the digipaks and see what ensues although here I expect to find no difference in sound quality, but you never know. 3)The two Nik Turner live doubles arrived this week - the 'Transglobal' from the USA which is just sensational stuff and the '2001' CD from the UK about which I cannot comment because Ben would throw me off for using that many expletives. 4)The new Hawkwind 'Astoria' double and the Brock demos CD: we contacted the label today, and they said to us on the phone that neither CD had been pressed yet but that copies were expected within the next two to three weeks so we are going to send out a leaflet denoting pre-order offer price, but if anyone wants to register an order for either or both, please e.mail. I you are an exisiting customer, just yer name will do, or if yuo have the customer number too that's always useful. 5)The Lloyd-Langton 'On The Move' with the three bonus tracks on it and new cover also hit us a week or so ago but I forgot to mention that. 6)The copies of Dark Sun 'Ice Ritual' Hawkwind covers album that we have just had delivered are, it turns out, the last there is as they have now run out at source, so anyone wanting this, feel free to order. 7)We may be having a delivery tomorrow of what amounta to a last batch of EBS CD stuff incl the 'Love In Space' CD single, House's 'Yassassim', Davey's 'Captured Rotation', plus 'Sonic Attack', the 'White Zone' album, the last few 'Alien 4' and 'Undisclosed Files' if I've remebered everything - oh yes, the Spacehead, Tribe Of Cro and Rizz albums too. There - that should keep you going for now. Andy G (CD Services) andygee at dial.pipex.com www.andygee.dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Litchfield" To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 4:31 PM Subject: HW: Sam FOx video footage > So.... now that it's out, any volunteers to grab the version with CD-ROM > and tell us if it's worth buying? Andy, maybe you could break open the > shrinkwrap when it arrives and give it a play on your PC, then tell us > what the deal is? > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 16 14:38:36 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:38:36 +0100 Subject: HW tour Message-ID: err......we are both actually distributing their stuff as I have the CD's on the shelf at the office, but the more the merrier if it helps MQB attain world domination. Andy Garibaldi (CDS) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Z E Itgeist" To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 8:42 AM Subject: HW tour > Mr Quimbys Beard not playing Newcastle, coming to Edinburgh instead, I'm > now distributing their stuff at; > > http://the-rocker.netfirms.com/beard.html > > Sorry Andy G:-) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 16 14:20:06 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:20:06 -0400 Subject: was: HW tour, now OFF: MQB Message-ID: >err......we are both actually distributing their stuff as I have the CD's on >the shelf at the office, but the more the merrier if it helps MQB attain >world domination. >Andy Garibaldi (CDS) > >> Mr Quimbys Beard not playing Newcastle, coming to Edinburgh instead, I'm >> now distributing their stuff at; >> >> http://the-rocker.netfirms.com/beard.html On that note, a quick trip to www.strange-trips.com will yield new information about the upcoming SD2001 (indoor) and the associated MQB/Harvey tour. And for any artist you're not familiar with, there are short bios of all the SD2001 performers there also. And I imagine that Jerry has MQB discs still available at www.aural-innovations.com for those of you on *this* side of the pond! Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Daevid Allen's U of E is starting a US tour soon, don't forget! From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Aug 16 16:29:57 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:29:57 +0100 Subject: Canterbury and camping Message-ID: Finally got it together to go to canterbury this weekend to see hawkwind. One thing though, i plan hopefully to camp somewhere near on the saturday night, i remember that campsites were discussed a while back. Does anyone have the details of any campsites near the festival? Btw if you see two nuttas down the front when hawkwind come on one with a rainbow coloured hawkwind tie dye shirt on and the other with a blue hawkwind tie dye shirt, full beard and jumping up and down like a loon that will be mate and me. :-) see you all there cheers colm From starfield at SUPANET.COM Thu Aug 16 17:20:11 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:20:11 +0100 Subject: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix Message-ID: I was talking to a member of the band last night about the infamous 'Tim Blake Dumped At Hotel' episode - not to mention the slightly less well-known but equally memorable 'Tim Blake Thrown Out Of Vehicle In Tottenham Court Road' saga. He recalls 'Twink' being Tim's synth roadie at the time. This Twink was definitely not the Pink Fairies John Alder. He also remembers several heated exchanges 'post-sacking' regarding the question of Tim getting his gear back, as it continued the tour without him... Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Strobridge To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 11:16 PM Subject: Re: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: g.m.wright > > > > WOW!!!! > > I dont think twink was with them whem i saw them, he was busy with > the > > pinkwind project, also playing the festival. I remember Kharma Kannix > as a > > guitar based band, I dont recall kbs/synth, but then memory is a > strange > > thing. Yes I think that would be the twink. > > Correct me if I'm wrong, please, somebody, but I think there are two > Twinks. The Twink of Pink Fairies and occasionally Nik Turner plays > drums. The Twink who stood in briefly as a Tim Blake replacement was > a roadie of that name. Without knowing anything more than that I > would suggest that the synth player mentioned is more than likely to be > the other Twink rather than the Pink Fairies Twink. > > Confusingly > jill > comfortable bed in Canterbury! So there is one free tent space > available at the Farm now, if someone else hasn't already taken it> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: david hall > To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu > Date: 15 August 2001 18:34 > Subject: Re: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix > > > >Saw Karma Kanix at Stonehenge 84. Managed to buy a tape from the band!! > You > must be the only other person who has heard of this mob. A 'Twink' is > listed > as synth player I think...is this the same guy who filled in when Tim > Blake > left? > > From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Aug 16 17:44:41 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:44:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam FOx video footage In-Reply-To: <006501c12683$2cf1cd20$ac9abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: In message <006501c12683$2cf1cd20$ac9abc3e at s8d3c4>, ANDREW GARIBALDI writes >3)The two Nik Turner live doubles arrived this week - the 'Transglobal' from >the USA which is just sensational stuff and the '2001' CD from the UK about >which I cannot comment because Ben would throw me off for using that many >expletives. Does this mean it's sensationally bad or sensationally good? (I'm assuming the former). -- Nick Medford From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 16 19:03:18 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:03:18 +0100 Subject: was: HW tour, now OFF: MQB Message-ID: ah yes - the new U of E album - for those who may be a bit sceptical, the finest non-Gong Daevid Allen project yet - a stunning album and highly recommended. But all of you watch out for Don Falcone's brand new Spirits Burning album, due here fairly soon, featuring the voice of Bob Calvert on a few tracks and one absolute blinder of an album - waybetter than the first one, and that was good!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 7:20 PM Subject: was: HW tour, now OFF: MQB > > P.S. Daevid Allen's U of E is starting a US tour soon, don't forget! From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 16 19:08:29 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:08:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam FOx video footage Message-ID: got it in one!!! - wish to god I'd heard it before it came out - sadly nothing I can do for those who already ordered it but to those who have not yet ordered it and are thinking about ordering it - just DON't!!! (and I'm retailing the thing - now there's honesty for you) Andy G (CD Services) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:44 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sam FOx video footage > In message <006501c12683$2cf1cd20$ac9abc3e at s8d3c4>, ANDREW > GARIBALDI writes > >3)The two Nik Turner live doubles arrived this week - the 'Transglobal' from > >the USA which is just sensational stuff and the '2001' CD from the UK about > >which I cannot comment because Ben would throw me off for using that many > >expletives. > > Does this mean it's sensationally bad or sensationally good? (I'm assuming > the former). > -- > Nick Medford From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 16 19:13:36 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:13:36 +0100 Subject: Turner - good and bad Message-ID: ooops - might have misled you here - the Turner 'Transglobal' album is great quality throughout - OK so it's not overly original in the light of Turner's output to date altho' you do get some unreleased studio stuff but the performances are just superb throughout - classic space-rock.. The '2001' CD is......well, I've no gripes against Ozit - great bloke, great label.....but the quality of the recording is simply horrendous - my jaw was on the floor tonight when I got home and put the thing on. Even now, I still don't believe it and I'm going to have to play it again (well, a bit of it) just to pinch myself that's it's not all a figment of my imagination. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:44 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sam FOx video footage > In message <006501c12683$2cf1cd20$ac9abc3e at s8d3c4>, ANDREW > GARIBALDI writes > >3)The two Nik Turner live doubles arrived this week - the 'Transglobal' from > >the USA which is just sensational stuff and the '2001' CD from the UK about > >which I cannot comment because Ben would throw me off for using that many > >expletives. > > Does this mean it's sensationally bad or sensationally good? (I'm assuming > the former). > -- > Nick Medford From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Aug 16 19:15:31 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:15:31 -0400 Subject: bank of Hawkwind In-Reply-To: ; from jeancollin@TISCALINET.BE on Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 11:44:37PM +0100 Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 11:44:37PM +0100, jc wrote: > Could anyone tell me what the "nine bobs" Bank of Hawkwind banknotes > actually were? Calvert, Heinlein, Dobbs, ... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Aug 16 19:27:09 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:27:09 -0400 Subject: HW:new release In-Reply-To: <3B7B8AEC.1CB9D410@cinesite.co.uk>; from keithb@CINESITE.CO.UK on Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 09:57:16AM +0100 Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 09:57:16AM +0100, Keith Barton wrote: > http://www.hamilton.net/salvage/page11.html - Someone's looking for Delatron > Pulsators.....hmmmm. FoFP, this one's for you... http://www.angelfire.com/ct2/beercoasters/oh/ohcoasters11.html -- top-right corner. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Aug 16 19:29:24 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 18:29:24 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: RE: Harvest Festival] Message-ID: Hi Gang! Wow. I tried to order this box set online at Tower Records but they didn't have it at the discounted price. But, they followed up with this second email to me! Does anyone have the SKU? Do we want to check into this further? There isn't a local Tower Records in my area. Karen -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Harvest Festival Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:21:50 -0700 From: FindIt To: "'kkusic at execpc.com'" Dear Karen, We've taken a look at this product. Please be aware that our listing is an import, which normally lists for $77.99, on sale here for $69.99. If the stores have it on sale for $24.99, it may be a different product or listing. $24.99 looks like a below-cost price for an item that normally retails for $77.99, and we are not allowed to sell anything below cost. If you suspect that the store has this item for $24.99, you may want to get the SKU number for that title and give us a call. We can look for the item that way and see if it's listed differently and at a different price. Please call us here at 1-800-ASK-TOWER (1-800-275-8693), M-F 6am to 6pm Pacific Time. We'll happy to look into the matter for you. Thank you, Phillip Tower.com 1-800-ASK-TOWER (1-800-275-8693) "If you are calling from a secret spy phone, please press 5." -Tool -----Original Message----- From: kkusic at execpc.com [mailto:kkusic at execpc.com] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 4:04 PM To: feedback at towerrecords.com Subject: Product Inquiry I guess this box set is $24.99 in your stores. I'm possible interested in ordering 6 copies. Can I order them for this price on your website? Thanks, Karen http://www.towerrecords.com/product.asp?pfid=1715969 from - Karen Kusic kkusic at execpc.com From laura.waesche at CEXP.COM Thu Aug 16 19:45:28 2001 From: laura.waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 18:45:28 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: RE: Harvest Festival] Message-ID: Karen, there's a Tower Records fairly close to where I work. I can go in and look if you give me the title and see if they have one and what it is. <<< Karen Kusic 8/16 6:29p >>> Hi Gang! Wow. I tried to order this box set online at Tower Records but they didn't have it at the discounted price. But, they followed up with this second email to me! Does anyone have the SKU? Do we want to check into this further? There isn't a local Tower Records in my area. Karen -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Harvest Festival Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:21:50 -0700 From: FindIt To: "'kkusic at execpc.com'" Dear Karen, We've taken a look at this product. Please be aware that our listing is an import, which normally lists for $77.99, on sale here for $69.99. If the stores have it on sale for $24.99, it may be a different product or listing. $24.99 looks like a below-cost price for an item that normally retails for $77.99, and we are not allowed to sell anything below cost. If you suspect that the store has this item for $24.99, you may want to get the SKU number for that title and give us a call. We can look for the item that way and see if it's listed differently and at a different price. Please call us here at 1-800-ASK-TOWER (1-800-275-8693), M-F 6am to 6pm Pacific Time. We'll happy to look into the matter for you. Thank you, Phillip Tower.com 1-800-ASK-TOWER (1-800-275-8693) "If you are calling from a secret spy phone, please press 5." -Tool -----Original Message----- From: kkusic at execpc.com [mailto:kkusic at execpc.com] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 4:04 PM To: feedback at towerrecords.com Subject: Product Inquiry I guess this box set is $24.99 in your stores. I'm possible interested in ordering 6 copies. Can I order them for this price on your website? Thanks, Karen http://www.towerrecords.com/product.asp?pfid=1715969 from - Karen Kusic kkusic at execpc.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Aug 16 19:55:56 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 18:55:56 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: RE: Harvest Festival] Message-ID: Thanks Laura! That would be great. Here's the box set info: http://www.towerrecords.com/product.asp?pfid=1715969 Does anyone on the list already have the SKU from one of the sale sets they purchased? Would be cool if we could all order it online for this price. Karen Laura Waesche wrote: > > Karen, there's a Tower Records fairly close to where I work. I can go in and look if you give me the title and see if they have one and what it is. > > <<< Karen Kusic 8/16 6:29p >>> > Hi Gang! > > Wow. I tried to order this box set online at Tower Records but they > didn't have it at the discounted price. But, they followed up with this > second email to me! > > Does anyone have the SKU? Do we want to check into this further? > > There isn't a local Tower Records in my area. > > Karen > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: Harvest Festival > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:21:50 -0700 > From: FindIt > To: "'kkusic at execpc.com'" > > Dear Karen, > > We've taken a look at this product. Please be aware that our listing is > an > import, which normally lists for $77.99, on sale here for $69.99. If > the > stores have it on sale for $24.99, it may be a different product or > listing. > $24.99 looks like a below-cost price for an item that normally retails > for > $77.99, and we are not allowed to sell anything below cost. > > If you suspect that the store has this item for $24.99, you may want to > get > the SKU number for that title and give us a call. We can look for the > item > that way and see if it's listed differently and at a different price. > > Please call us here at 1-800-ASK-TOWER (1-800-275-8693), M-F 6am to 6pm > Pacific Time. We'll happy to look into the matter for you. > > Thank you, > > Phillip > Tower.com > 1-800-ASK-TOWER > (1-800-275-8693) > > "If you are calling from a secret spy phone, please press 5." > -Tool > > -----Original Message----- > From: kkusic at execpc.com [mailto:kkusic at execpc.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 4:04 PM > To: feedback at towerrecords.com > Subject: Product Inquiry > > I guess this box set is $24.99 in your stores. I'm possible interested > in > ordering 6 copies. Can I order them for this price on your website? > Thanks, Karen > > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.asp?pfid=1715969 > > from - Karen Kusic > kkusic at execpc.com From laura.waesche at CEXP.COM Thu Aug 16 20:01:47 2001 From: laura.waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:01:47 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: RE: Harvest Festival] Message-ID: Okay, unless someone else from the list has a ready answer I will look tomorrow and get back to you! <<< Karen Kusic 8/16 6:55p >>> Thanks Laura! That would be great. Here's the box set info: http://www.towerrecords.com/product.asp?pfid=1715969 Does anyone on the list already have the SKU from one of the sale sets they purchased? Would be cool if we could all order it online for this price. Karen Laura Waesche wrote: > > Karen, there's a Tower Records fairly close to where I work. I can go in and look if you give me the title and see if they have one and what it is. > > <<< Karen Kusic 8/16 6:29p >>> > Hi Gang! > > Wow. I tried to order this box set online at Tower Records but they > didn't have it at the discounted price. But, they followed up with this > second email to me! > > Does anyone have the SKU? Do we want to check into this further? > > There isn't a local Tower Records in my area. > > Karen > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: Harvest Festival > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:21:50 -0700 > From: FindIt > To: "'kkusic at execpc.com'" > > Dear Karen, > > We've taken a look at this product. Please be aware that our listing is > an > import, which normally lists for $77.99, on sale here for $69.99. If > the > stores have it on sale for $24.99, it may be a different product or > listing. > $24.99 looks like a below-cost price for an item that normally retails > for > $77.99, and we are not allowed to sell anything below cost. > > If you suspect that the store has this item for $24.99, you may want to > get > the SKU number for that title and give us a call. We can look for the > item > that way and see if it's listed differently and at a different price. > > Please call us here at 1-800-ASK-TOWER (1-800-275-8693), M-F 6am to 6pm > Pacific Time. We'll happy to look into the matter for you. > > Thank you, > > Phillip > Tower.com > 1-800-ASK-TOWER > (1-800-275-8693) > > "If you are calling from a secret spy phone, please press 5." > -Tool > > -----Original Message----- > From: kkusic at execpc.com [mailto:kkusic at execpc.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 4:04 PM > To: feedback at towerrecords.com > Subject: Product Inquiry > > I guess this box set is $24.99 in your stores. I'm possible interested > in > ordering 6 copies. Can I order them for this price on your website? > Thanks, Karen > > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.asp?pfid=1715969 > > from - Karen Kusic > kkusic at execpc.com From swann at CUGC.ORG Thu Aug 16 21:58:49 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:58:49 -0400 Subject: Own a piece of history Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1456257618 From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Aug 17 05:11:42 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 05:11:42 -0400 Subject: Hawknews / PS Andy G Message-ID: "Also returned to the band is bass player, Ali Davey (formerly Alan Davey).Ali, like Huw Lloyd Langton is a long standing member, serving over 14 years in the band. Their next epic project will be,? Destruction of The Death Generator? written in conjunction with Michael Moorcock. They will be writing all the material over the Christmas and New Year period, to be recorded next spring. Following rehearsals of the stage show the band will tour late summer. Line up will be the current nucleus with past members who have featured in the band during the past 30 years. Similar to last year?s highly successful ?Hawkestra? event at the Brixton Academy, which brought together at least 20 former members of the band including ?Lemmy?. What Hawkwind are and have always been is an underground rock show-band, merging electronic sounds with amazing light shows, dancers, fire-eaters, theatrics and brilliant musicianship. Their history speaks for itself. They have been on the road since 1969. The current nucleus is Dave Brock (vocals,guitar,keyboards,sequencers), Ali Davey (bass), Hugh Lloyd-Langton (vocals, lead guitar), Richard Chadwick (drums), and Gerry Richards (lead guitar) with guests, Simon House (electric violin)Keith Kniverton (keyboards, synth & sequencers) and Tim Blake (keyboards, synth & sequencers) and Ron Tree (lead vocals)." Stuart http://www.the-rocker.co.uk PS Andy - MQB - the *grin* merely denoted my satisfaction at getting to distribute MQB stuff as well. As always I defer to CD Services, and in fact the cheque went in the post on Monday, and I'll be plugging you when my Tidal Flood review goes up this weekend. Buy now, folks! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 17 08:39:10 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:39:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Sam FOx video footage In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:44:41 +0100 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > In message <006501c12683$2cf1cd20$ac9abc3e at s8d3c4>, ANDREW GARIBALDI > writes > >3)The two Nik Turner live doubles arrived this week - the > >'Transglobal' from the USA which is just sensational stuff and the > >'2001' CD from the UK about which I cannot comment because Ben would > >throw me off for using that many expletives. > Does this mean it's sensationally bad or sensationally good? (I'm > assuming the former). -- Nick Medford The sound at the Birkenhead gig was rough and ready to say the least.. FoFP From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Aug 17 10:01:57 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 15:01:57 +0100 Subject: HW: CHANGE IN DATES Message-ID: Hello Folks, Unfortunately the gig on Nov 23rd at Hastings Pier, has been cancelled. Instead we are playing Brighton on 21st Nov, details below. Venue: Concorde 2, Brighton Box Office No: 01273 772770 or 325440 Wednesday 21st November 2001 Support Bedouin Kris From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Aug 17 11:17:02 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 23:17:02 +0800 Subject: HW-Spirit of the Age Message-ID: > Hmmm. > > I was playing the song Spirit of the Age recently and, at about the same > time, was watching an old Twilight > Zone episode called The Long Morrow. There are some very interesting > similarities!! > Anyone else ever notice it? Comments? > > And of course, you could hear the control voice from the Outer Limits on > Choose Your Masques. > > Just thought I'd bring the list back to Hawkwind related talk. Work is slow > today!! > > Dr. Dan > And Gerry Anderson (Thunderbirds) fans can hear audio from his movie Doppelganger (AKA Journey to the Far Side of the Sun) on the live version of Dream Worker on the Night of the Hawks video/DVD. William From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Fri Aug 17 11:27:09 2001 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:27:09 -0400 Subject: HW: Nik CD (was Sam FOx video footage) Message-ID: Apparently the source material for the 2001 was pretty dire, in fact they ended up using material from some of the bootlegs which we circulated of the gigs. The guy I supplied Ystalyfera and Birkenhead too, who picked up a copy for me reports as follows "For the Nik Tuner double that I have sent you, they had to use tracks from the 2 CD's that you sent me as the desk recordings were too distorted. There is also a mistake on disc one, Brainstorm is not on the CD, instead somehow they've put on "WaitingFor Tomorrow" twice. The CD is to be released with the proper tracks and the inclusion of "Brainstorm"." Jeff From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 17 12:24:54 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 17:24:54 +0100 Subject: Paging Kris/Hawkwind: possible interview for The Scotsman In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Fri, 17 Aug 2001 15:01:57 +0100 Message-ID: I was out for a pint with the Science Fiction reviewer for The Scotsman. I mentioned that Hawkwind will be in Scotland for a couple of gigs in November. He'd be interested in arranging an interview, possibly by telephone/email, for possible publication just prior to the gigs. It'll be neither a fan piece or the usual "are those boring old hippies still at it?" that Hawkwind are regularly treated to. He's interested in the SF background, the Moorcock connection and musically that Hawkwind have continued through 3 decades with contributions to the various styles of music over that time. He's just done some SF stuff for the paper at the Edinburgh Book Festival (Have I got SF For You with Banks, Lessing and others) and they're keen to get more from him. I'd hazard that an article in a Scottish newspaper prior to the gigs is good publicity by any definition. If you guys are interested in getting this organised, then please get in touch with me at M.Holmes at ed.ac.uk and we'll get something arranged. Cheers Mike (FoFP) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Aug 18 01:54:57 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 01:54:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Circle to tour UK w/ AMT Message-ID: Hi Folks... Great news for those in the UK. The wonderful Finnish space/kraut/hypno-industrial outfit Circle has linked up with the Japanese psychsters Acid Mothers Temple for some shows there. As below. Circle is also playing tonight (Saturday night that is) in Copenhagen, DK for those not going to Canterbury. :) I'm not sure who/what NISHINION is, but I'm gathering that they are an offshoot of AMT, or perhaps exactly the same folks in a different guise? Who can tell me more about AMT? Like how 'noisy'? 'Cause they're coming to Columbus very shortly as well. Grakkl (FAA) ObCD: Pharaoh Overlord - #1 (www.ektrorecords.com) Circle offshoot ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2001 UK tour Acid Mothers Temple (or NISHINION, as indicated) w/ Circle Fri Oct 5th LEEDS Brudenell Social Club, 33 Queen's Road, Hyde Park. LS2 7DR Tel: 0113 275 2411 Ticket Details To Follow Sat Oct 6th NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE / VENUE DETAILS TO FOLLOW ASAP Sun Oct 7th TBA Mon Oct 8th GLASGOW The 13th Note 260 Clyde Street, Glasgow 8.00pm Tickets ?7.00 Advance / On The Door (Subject To Availabilty) From the following outlets 13th Note Cafe (50-60 King St), Missing Records Wellington Street, and Tickets Scotland (in Virgin Records, Buchanan Street) Tue Oct 9th (NISHINIHON) MANCHESTER The Star & Garter 8.00pm Admission ?4.00 From the following outlets WAYAHEAD http://www.tickets-online.co.uk tel: 0115 912 9115 POPART 0161 448 8469 Wed Oct 10th MANCHESTER Band On The Wall 8.00pm Tickets ?5.00 Advance / ?7.00 On The Door (Subject To Availabilty) From the following outlets WAYAHEAD http://www.tickets-online.co.uk tel: 0115 912 9115 POPART 0161 448 8469 Thu Oct 11th NOTTINGHAM The Social 8.00pm Tickets ?6.00 Advance / ?7.00 On The Door (Subject To Availabilty) From the following outlets WAYAHEAD http://www.tickets-online.co.uk tel: 0115 912 9115 TICKETWEB http://www.ticketweb.co.uk tel: 020 7771 2000 Friday Oct 12th WOLVERHAMPTON The Varsity 8.00pm Tickets ?5.00 Advance / ?7.00 On The Door (Subject To Availabilty) From the following outlets WAYAHEAD http://www.tickets-online.co.uk tel: 0115 912 9115, SWORDFISH RECORDS Temple Street Birmingham tel: 0121 633 4859, THE VARSITY Stafford Street, Wolverhampton tel: 01902 711166, CHUNKY RECORDS tel 01922 406183 or email name / address / card details and number of tickets required to tickets at chunkyrecords.com for swift despatch. all tickets will be sent via recorded delivery at a cost of ?1.00 regardless of amount ordered Sat Oct 13th (NISHINIHON) BIRMINGHAM The Jug Of Ale 8.00pm Tickets ?3.00 Advance / ?4.00 On The Door (Subject To Availabilty) From the following outlets WAYAHEAD http://www.tickets-online.co.uk tel: 0115 912 9115, SWORDFISH RECORDS Temple Street Birmingham tel: 0121 633 4859, CHUNKY RECORDS tel 01922 406183 email tickets at chunkyrecords.com Sun Oct 14th (NISHINIHON) LONDON Upstairs @ The Garage 8.00pm DETAILS TO FOLLOW Mon Oct 15th BRIGHTON Komedia Gardner St North Laine, Brighton Tel: 01273- 647100 Tickets ?8.00 Advance / ?6.00 Concessions. From the following outlets Komedia Box office 01273-647100 / Rounder Records 01273-325440 credit cards purchases can be made at both and web based from the komedia webite: www.komedia.co.uk Tue Oct 16th Invite Only Show / Details Of How To Obtain Tickets Will Appear Here Two Weeks Before Show For further info on the tour email amtgigs at chunkyrecords.com for details of specific shows contact venues directly as they will be able to give you the info you need. Following the success of the last tour single, we will once again be selling a split ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE / NISHINIHON tour only 7" single, please DO NOT ASK for copies as they will ONLY be available at the shows. Sorry but this is the fairest way to make sure the folks who support the band get hold of copies From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Aug 18 05:20:55 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 05:20:55 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" 8/11/01 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck SDNC? Space/Kraut Rock, Psyche, Electronic/Experimental, Prog? NOTE: I also recommend you stay tuned for Mizzen's program "Audio Alchemy", which airs every Saturday evening after mine, from 8-11pm PST...if you dare... 8/11 1.Daniel Denis-- "Beyond the Mountains" (Serius and the Ghosts; Cuneiform Records) 2.Cul de Sac-- "A Voice Through a Cloud (Crashes to Light...; Thirsty Ear Records) 3.Cluster-- "Umleitung" (SoWieSoSo; Sky/Gyroscope Records) 4.Schema-- "Echolalia...Curvilinear" (ST'd; 5 Rue Christine Records) 5.Helios Creed-- "Invitation" (On Tour 1999; Static White Sound Records) 6.Bevis & Twink-- "Black Queen" (Magic Eye; Woronzow Records) 7.High Rise-- "Outside Gentiles" (HRII: Dispersion; Squealer Records) 8.Hawkwind-- "Kings of Speed" (Hawkwind Zoo EP, Mighty Hawkwind Classics; Flicknife/Griffin Records) 9.Anubian Lights-- "Soul Herder" (The Eternal Sky; Cleopatra Records) 10.Saturnia-- "Organo" (II) 11.Quarkspace-- "Trinary Space parts 1 & 2" (Spacefolds 4; Eternity's Jest Records) 12.Nik Turner-- "Spiral Galaxy" (Transglobal Friends and Relations; Transparency Records) 13.Wallenstein-- title-track (Mother Universe; Ohr/Spalax Records) 14.Pseudo Buddha-- "Calling Quexzalcoatl" (Flourescent Tunnelvision comp; Submergence Records) 15.Residents-- "Adventures of a Troubled Heart" (Whatever Happened to Vileness Fats?; ESD Records) 16.Mushroom-- "I've Got Blisters on My Fingers/For Men with Beards" (Compared to What EP; Innerspace Records) 17.Angelo Badalamenti-- "The Bookhouse Boys" (Twin Peaks Series Soundtrack; Warner Bros) 18.Frank Zappa/Mothers-- "Plastic People/Duke of Prunes" (Absolutely Free; Rykodisc Records) 19.Pink Floyd-- "Corporal Klegg" (Saucerful of Secrets; Harvest/EMI Records) 20.Saddar Bazaar-- "Garden of Essence" (Conference of the Birds; Delerium Records) 21.Kraftwerk-- "Antenna" (Radioactivity , Space Daze 2000 comp ) 22.Vas Deferens Organization-- "Tao City Hovercraft" (Sweat Your Cheeses...; Charnel Records) 23.AMP-- "Lightdripglow" (Astral Moonbeam Projections; Kranky Records) 24.Saddar Bazaar-- "Kiff Riff" (Conference of the Birds; Delerium Records) 25.Loop Guru-- "Olwana" (Ameberdelic Space II comp; Dressed to Kill Records) thanks, Chuck From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Aug 18 06:35:12 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 06:35:12 -0400 Subject: Turner - good and bad Message-ID: My copy of 2001 arrived this morning and I have to say it is very poor! To add insult to injury there is a little insert which describes it as a "rare limited edition" version because of the mispressing and states that there will be a proper version coming out soon. Well, I sure hope that Ozit intend supplying that free to those of us who were stupid enough to purchase this heap of crap! To knowingly put out a faulty item of this quality is appalling and Ozit, Nik and everyone involved in it should be ashamed of themselves. Nothing against Andy or CD Services, this is not your fault at all, but Ozit, you can have my copy back and stick it where the sun don't shine! You just lost a customer for any future releases. Enough said, now I am off to Canterbury:) Colin From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Aug 18 09:14:13 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 08:14:13 -0500 Subject: OFF: Acid Mothers Temple Message-ID: Another great band find Keith! Did an internet search for Acid Mothers Temple and found a page of sound samples: http://www2.tok2.com/home/acidmothers/ Scroll to the end of the page for "Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Paraiso U.F.O. / WILD GALS A GO-GO". Cool. Karen K Henderson wrote: > > Who can tell me more about AMT? Like how 'noisy'? 'Cause they're coming to > Columbus very shortly as well. > From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Sat Aug 18 11:07:54 2001 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 11:07:54 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hi, folks: The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at . Meanwhile, here are some excerpts for Brain Surgeons and Hawkwind fans. Coming soon from Cellsum Records The Brain Surgeons and Friends/To Helen with Love! Cellsum Records is especially proud to offer To Helen With Love, featuring the first studio reunion of Buck Dharma, Albert and Joe Bouchard in two decades. Contributors include The Brain Surgeons, Tish and Snooky (Blondie, S*c F*cs), Neal Smith and Dennis Dunaway (Alice Cooper), Crispin Cioe (Rolling Stones, J Geils) whose Uptown Horns shared "Downtown Diva" bills with Helen, and the Dictators, Wheels' first back-up band. 'Tator "Top Ten" Kempner chose the album's only cover, an acoustic version of Dylan's "Chimes of Freedom," which he performed in several versions of her band, one of which evolved into his next major label outfit, the Del Lords. All profits from this project will go to animal charities. Bouchard and Frost, who had just re-tooled the Brain Surgeons as a power trio following the serious illness of the band's guitarist, were devastated by Wheels' (n?e Robbins) unexpected death January 17, 2000. So were other old colleagues and friends of Helen's, who managed to set aside long unresolved differences in order to help bring her songs - some of which have never been previously released - to life. Most notable among them is the musical core responsible for B?C's hits - Bouchard, his former college classmate Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser, and brother Joe Bouchard - who had not been in the same room, much less the same studio, for nearly two decades. As Sandy Roeser, who, like Wheels, lived in the band house during the classic Cult era, and who sings "Hero," noted, "Helen, wherever she is, must be laughing at the irony that it took her death to bring all of us together." soundbite - >From our import pre-ordering page HAWKWIND-DOREMI FASOL LATIDO UK remastered & repackaged reissue of the British progressive rock act's 1972 album. HAWKWIND-HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN GRILL UK remastered & repackaged reissue of the British progressive rock act's 1974 album. HAWKWIND-HAWKWIND UK remastered & repackaged reissue of the British progressive rock act's 1970 album. HAWKWIND-IN SEARCH OF SPACE UK remastered & repackaged reissue of the British progressive rock act's 1971 album. HAWKWIND-SPACE RITUAL (2CD) UK remastered & repackaged reissue of the British progressive rock act's 1973 album. HAWKWIND-1999 PARTY (LIVE IN CHICAGO) (2CD) UK remastered & repackaged reissue for the British progressive rock act, recorded live at The Chicago Auditorium on March 21, 1974. >From our page of new import releases HAWKWIND-IN YOUR AREA The ultimate psychedelic and space rock band returns with their first studio album released in America in four years. Contains 14 brand new tracks, 16-page color booklet with essential Hawkwind material. HAWKWIND-THRILLING HAWKWIND STORIES 7 live tracks of Classic Space Rock from the Astounding Sounds Tour in '76. Over 53 minutes in length and tracks include Uncle Sam's on Mars and Sonic Attack. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Aug 18 11:17:05 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:17:05 -0500 Subject: OFF: Classical-music fans may have more brains Message-ID: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/healthscience/134327382_brain12.html From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 18 14:38:49 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 19:38:49 +0100 Subject: Turner - good and bad Message-ID: yes, but I still feel a tad guilty that I couldn't get a pre-release promo off the company in order to be able to warn you all - both Dave who owns CDS and myself agree that this is a case where it would have actually done us more good than harm to avoid you having bought it, and for that we apologise, but, unless Ozit agreed to take the CD's back of us (highly unlikely as they lost money heavily on the Blackpool gig) then there is, I'm afraid, nothing we can do, except be a lot more vigilant next time (because there will be a next time if the recent Blackpool thing comes along, but they said that had been recorded off the soundboard) Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: Re: Turner - good and bad > My copy of 2001 arrived this morning and I have to say it is very poor! > > Nothing against Andy or CD Services, this is not your fault at all, but > Ozit, you can have my copy back and stick it where the sun don't shine! > You just lost a customer for any future releases. > > Enough said, now I am off to Canterbury:) > > Colin From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Aug 18 15:55:46 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:55:46 -0600 Subject: Turner - good and bad/ EMI sampler delicious?? In-Reply-To: <010601c12818$7f954660$9e97bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: My copy just arrived- so I think I will just carry on with the sealedness of it's newness in the shrink- nice pic of "carrot top".......good way to close out that costume??? anyway- not to get too upset, as my EMI sampler is in hand as well- it's a legit item made by EMI as a CDR with a beautiful shiny label- and while it comes in a plastic wallet like the second run of Dave Brock "Space Brock", this one fits into a jewel case..... also into my sack of treats fell Langtons new(ly) reissued "On The Move", and it only has one negative, this little EX Hawkwind sticker has got to go, since I'll leave it on my sealed other copy- The wonderful snapshot on the rear cover just screams "Hawkwind" IMPO.....the bonus tracks are "Big Boss Man", "Shame, Shame, Shame", and "Rollin and Tumble" in case this wasn't reported..... This must be Saturday night afterall...... and fellow listers- sorry for the goop of the past weeks, but I beg you to let me call people a "Mangy Kur" if I so desire- I know what I'm doing- mc <<"yes, but I still feel a tad guilty that I couldn't get a pre-release promo off the company in order to be able to warn you all - both Dave who owns CDS and myself agree that this is a case where it would have actually done us more good than harm to avoid you having bought it, and for that we apologise, but, unless Ozit agreed to take the CD's back of us (highly unlikely as they lost money heavily on the Blackpool gig) then there is, I'm afraid, nothing we can do, except be a lot more vigilant next time (because there will be a next time if the recent Blackpool thing comes along, but they said that had been recorded off the soundboard) Andy Garibaldi">> From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Aug 18 16:12:40 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:12:40 -0600 Subject: Turner - good and bad/ EMI sampler delicious?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: But the spirit of Nik got me for that remark- in a good way- this one's 'Transglobal'..........kewel beans mann.... so I hope my deluxe mispressed set (of the odyssey) is on the way to my "it can wait, but it's cool cause it's a mispress"- shelf......Andy...mispress,,,mispress,,Andy,,please.. m From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 18 15:22:44 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 20:22:44 +0100 Subject: HW: The newest Hawk Message-ID: just realised why I didn't understand what on earth yuo were talking about - I was on about Starfield CD and you are on about Star Nation CD - no wonder everyone will be thoroughly confused. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: Re: HW: The newest Hawk > **Sleep Deprevation Without The Safety Tools For Over=The=Road Trucking:** > (is bad-) > > > <> > < 'original' as such - just one edition. > The story is that it got released, then accidentally, 30 were pressed with > an extra track, we had them all, still have about five left, and then it > reverts to the normal one again. > Think that tells it all, > > > You see, it's really a conspiracy on behalf of all parties, as in the end > it's a bad publicity stunt. Keith gets a plug, and others are faced with > the knowledge about the 2 versions of the Star Nation, another time- How > many of the second press you got Andy??? and you know they all tend to > differ on the art slightly- > > the original that I referred to has the individual pages, and this pressing > only got leaked in a lump of 50 or so, which is a collecters nightmare in > the long run- > basically non-obtainable in the bigger picture!~ > > consider that. > if you will. > m From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Aug 19 05:35:22 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 10:35:22 +0100 Subject: Hawknews / PS Andy G Message-ID: that's the protective streak in me coming out - clearly 22 years of Hawkwind mail order is taking its toll!!! (actually found the ad and group that started it all the other day - and it wasn't Hawkwind bizarrely enough, but you'll read all about that when the Andy G archives are published!!) Yes - Tidal Flood are definitely set to be an exciting new find in space-rock-ambient if their promos are anything to go by. Andy G (no offence) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Z E Itgeist" To: Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:11 AM Subject: Hawknews / PS Andy G > PS Andy - MQB - the *grin* merely denoted my satisfaction at getting to > distribute MQB stuff as well. As always I defer to CD Services, and in > fact the cheque went in the post on Monday, and I'll be plugging you when > my Tidal Flood review goes up this weekend. Buy now, folks! From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Sun Aug 19 06:39:44 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:39:44 +1200 Subject: BOC-L Saturnia "The Glitter Odd" release In-Reply-To: <200108190900.FAA05765@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Cranium Music have just released the first CD by the Portugese psychedelic band Saturnia. The CD is called "The Glitter Odd". Some of you may have heard various tracks on the Aural-Innovations internet radio shows and also Chuck Rosenberg's "Space Does Not Care" show. Originally these were listed as 'self released'. However after hearing the demo version that Saturnia sent me and which rarely left my CD player in the weeks after receiving disc Cranium and Saturnia agreed a contract and last Friday the official pressing on the Cranium Music label was picked up from the pressing plant. On the Cranium site at www.cranium.co.nz you can hear 3 sound samples from the album (CD) and there is also a full length free MP3 available of the track "Chrysalis" Go here to access the MP3 http://www.cranium.co.nz/mp3s.htm and here to access the shorter samples plus review, ordering & picture of the cover. http://www.cranium.co.nz/catalog/A_1748.htm#2945 Hope you are as mesmerized by the music as I was and still am. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Sun Aug 19 09:43:05 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 14:43:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury Message-ID: For those that couldn't be there, some quick Canterbury thoughts: Thoroughly enjoyable day & HW set. Sound not always perfect - sometimes hard to hear Huw - but a lively performance. Surprise no 1 - No Jerry Surprise no 2 - No Ron Surprise no 3 - 5th Second of Forever as set opener Line-up: Brock/Chadwick/Davey/Lloyd-Langton/Kniveton/House (+ Arthur Brown) Set-list: 5th Second of Forever (!!!!) Levitation Spiral Galaxy 28948 Solitary Mind Games Angels of Death Spirit of the Age Magnu/Dust of Time Motorway City Hurry on Sundown Assassins of Allah/Space is Their Silver Machine (w/ Arthur Brown) Encore 1: Assault & Battery Golden Void Encore 2: Ejection Feels like it's 1982.......... ;@) Approx. 1hr 45mins My recollection of the song order between AoD & Assassins may be somewhat unreliable....... Have I missed anything? Anyone know the score with Ron & Jerry? Was it simply that they couldn't make it yesterday or is there more to it? Dave From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Aug 19 10:55:23 2001 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 15:55:23 +0100 Subject: OFF:Bedouin AoS gig changes Message-ID: Bedouin AoS updated gig list: Bristol is cancelled, but Bournmouth Oct 12th and 13th added. August 25th The Boardwalk, Snig Hill, Sheffield. Ace of Spades (Part of all day tribute bands gig) Not sure what time they're on though Sept ***CANCELLED*** 7th Fleece and Firkin, Bristol.0117 9834503. ***CANCELLED*** 8th The Mars Bar, 12 Pierpoint Street, Worcester 01905 613336. Bedouin 22nd Rye Community Centre, Rye, Sussex. 07899 676723. AoS and Bedouin with Simon House and Harvey Bainbridge 28th Esquires Club, Greyfriars Road, Bedford. 01234 217171. Bedouin 29th The Twist, Military Road, Colchester. 01206 562453 AoS October 4th Alexanders Jazz Theatre, Rufus Court, Chester.01244 340005. Bedouin 5th The Rigger, Marsh Parade, Newcastle-Under-Lyme. 01782 616602. Bedouin 6th Uplands Tavern, 42,Uplands Cres., Swansea.01792 458242. Bedouin 12th The Gander, 2, Holdenhurst Road, Bournemouth. 01202 290294. Bedouin 13th The Gander, 2, Holdenhurst Road, Bournemouth. 01202 290294. AoS 19th The Little Wonder, Ripon Road, Harrogate. Bedouin PS Does anyone else ache as much as I do from standing on a wet grassy slope watching Hawkwind, followed by a 6 hour drive home last night? Well worth it though... Neil From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Aug 19 13:05:59 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:05:59 +0100 Subject: HAWKWIND: CANTERBURY Message-ID: Excellent set, excellent spot, crap weather, everyone smiling, Osibisa, Arthur Brown. What more can you want on a Saturday afternoon. Top set from the Hawks, highlight, Arthur doing Silver Machine. Brilliant. From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Sun Aug 19 13:38:03 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:38:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury Message-ID: Set list is about right. Great gig, on a par with Croydon for me, others thought "best ever" - but we talked to one bloke who didn't rate it all. We were right down the front & could hear Huw perfectly. And Simon's violin - in fact the sound seemed to great to us, we all agreed it was maybe the clearest sound ever. The location was great, rolling green hills in every direction, good festival atmosphere, not too many people. It rained on and off but even that was enjoyable when not too heavy. I talked to Keith Kniveton before the gig, and asked if Jerry would be playing. He said "Jerry's not here tonight - and neither is Ron" in a way that made me think neither of them are in the band any more. Pure speculation on my part, though! The band were firing on all cylinders, every single one of them played a blinder. Dave's guitar was well to the fore and the version of Silver Machine was stunningly good. Arthur Brown was superb -what a voice!- and I took about 15 photos....to follow, hopefully.... Caravan were AOR. Porcupine Tree were pretty good. Missed all the other bands. We (Mooongluum/Steve, Linuxchaos/Ben, Ormuzd/Nick, Electronic_No1/Ali) had the pleasure of meeting other list members like Jill, JJ, Colm. And as we waited for a taxi afterwards, Dave and Kris drove out & said goodbye to us. The whole thing was utterly brilliant! Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Bottomley To: Sent: 19 August 2001 14:43 Subject: HW: Canterbury > For those that couldn't be there, some quick Canterbury thoughts: > > Thoroughly enjoyable day & HW set. Sound not always perfect - sometimes hard > to hear Huw - but a lively performance. > > Surprise no 1 - No Jerry > Surprise no 2 - No Ron > Surprise no 3 - 5th Second of Forever as set opener > > Line-up: Brock/Chadwick/Davey/Lloyd-Langton/Kniveton/House (+ Arthur Brown) > > Set-list: > 5th Second of Forever (!!!!) > Levitation > Spiral Galaxy 28948 > Solitary Mind Games > Angels of Death > Spirit of the Age > Magnu/Dust of Time > Motorway City > Hurry on Sundown > Assassins of Allah/Space is Their > Silver Machine (w/ Arthur Brown) > > Encore 1: > Assault & Battery > Golden Void > > Encore 2: > Ejection > > Feels like it's 1982.......... ;@) > > Approx. 1hr 45mins > > My recollection of the song order between AoD & Assassins may be somewhat > unreliable....... > > Have I missed anything? > > Anyone know the score with Ron & Jerry? Was it simply that they couldn't > make it yesterday or is there more to it? > > Dave > From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Aug 19 17:31:03 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:31:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury Message-ID: See neo-quark for info on a tree of this gig; it is good!!! Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moonglum" To: Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 6:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Canterbury > Set list is about right. Great gig, on a par with Croydon for me, others > thought "best ever" - but we talked to one bloke who didn't rate it all. We > were right down the front & could hear Huw perfectly. And Simon's violin - > in fact the sound seemed to great to us, we all agreed it was maybe the > clearest sound ever. > > The location was great, rolling green hills in every direction, good > festival atmosphere, not too many people. It rained on and off but even > that was enjoyable when not too heavy. > > I talked to Keith Kniveton before the gig, and asked if Jerry would be > playing. He said "Jerry's not here tonight - and neither is Ron" in a way > that made me think neither of them are in the band any more. Pure > speculation on my part, though! > > The band were firing on all cylinders, every single one of them played a > blinder. Dave's guitar was well to the fore and the version of Silver > Machine was stunningly good. Arthur Brown was superb -what a voice!- and I > took about 15 photos....to follow, hopefully.... > > Caravan were AOR. Porcupine Tree were pretty good. Missed all the other > bands. > > We (Mooongluum/Steve, Linuxchaos/Ben, Ormuzd/Nick, Electronic_No1/Ali) had > the pleasure of meeting other list members like Jill, JJ, Colm. And as we > waited for a taxi afterwards, Dave and Kris drove out & said goodbye to us. > The whole thing was utterly brilliant! > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dave Bottomley > To: > Sent: 19 August 2001 14:43 > Subject: HW: Canterbury > > > > For those that couldn't be there, some quick Canterbury thoughts: > > > > Thoroughly enjoyable day & HW set. Sound not always perfect - sometimes > hard > > to hear Huw - but a lively performance. > > > > Surprise no 1 - No Jerry > > Surprise no 2 - No Ron > > Surprise no 3 - 5th Second of Forever as set opener > > > > Line-up: Brock/Chadwick/Davey/Lloyd-Langton/Kniveton/House (+ Arthur > Brown) > > > > Set-list: > > 5th Second of Forever (!!!!) > > Levitation > > Spiral Galaxy 28948 > > Solitary Mind Games > > Angels of Death > > Spirit of the Age > > Magnu/Dust of Time > > Motorway City > > Hurry on Sundown > > Assassins of Allah/Space is Their > > Silver Machine (w/ Arthur Brown) > > > > Encore 1: > > Assault & Battery > > Golden Void > > > > Encore 2: > > Ejection > > > > Feels like it's 1982.......... ;@) > > > > Approx. 1hr 45mins > > > > My recollection of the song order between AoD & Assassins may be somewhat > > unreliable....... > > > > Have I missed anything? > > > > Anyone know the score with Ron & Jerry? Was it simply that they couldn't > > make it yesterday or is there more to it? > > > > Dave > > > From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Sun Aug 19 17:31:15 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 17:31:15 -0400 Subject: HW: Canterbury Message-ID: Ok, for me this gig was one of the most enjoyable of all the HW gigs that I've ever been to and I'm usually quite critical of HW gigs. I picked a great position to stand, about 3 rows back dead center, and fought to keep it all night. Where I was standing the sound was superb, best I've ever heard. My state of mind was clear as a bell and I was 'right there' for this gig, and the Hawkwind sound was right in front of me with some of the best contributors in the history of the band in my opinion. The sound was tight and the band seemed fresh to me. Levitation and Magnu were my highlights. I was 'in' those songs. I think all of the set was pre 1982. The light show was fairly simple but very solid and colourful with some cool oils and computer graphics. Wicked stuff! >From my perspective it looked as if they were really enjoying themselves. Some of the set seemed spontaneous with some jamming going on. After the encore someone said that there was time for another and they came back on, something I personally have never seen them do before, and played Ejection. Ace! The festival itself was not full but there was enough people there and many were Hawkfans. There was no hostile atmosphere and many families were there. I had a really good day. Top stuff! I didn't care about the other bands, I was busy preparing myself for Hawkwind. I'll have to listen to Porcupine Tree another time. The only thing I disagree with is that Dave and Kris said goodnight to us. I think that by then the others were hallucinating ;) It wasn't a perfect gig, there were moments when the jamming seemed to trail off and come to nothing. But all in all it was one of the most memorable gigs I've been to and my first with other proper Hawkfans. Good to see other people from the list to. What a day, Alastair. On Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:38:03 +0100, Moonglum wrote: >Set list is about right. Great gig, on a par with Croydon for me, others >thought "best ever" - but we talked to one bloke who didn't rate it all. We >were right down the front & could hear Huw perfectly. And Simon's violin - >in fact the sound seemed to great to us, we all agreed it was maybe the >clearest sound ever. > >The location was great, rolling green hills in every direction, good >festival atmosphere, not too many people. It rained on and off but even >that was enjoyable when not too heavy. > >I talked to Keith Kniveton before the gig, and asked if Jerry would be >playing. He said "Jerry's not here tonight - and neither is Ron" in a way >that made me think neither of them are in the band any more. Pure >speculation on my part, though! > >The band were firing on all cylinders, every single one of them played a >blinder. Dave's guitar was well to the fore and the version of Silver >Machine was stunningly good. Arthur Brown was superb -what a voice!- and I >took about 15 photos....to follow, hopefully.... > >Caravan were AOR. Porcupine Tree were pretty good. Missed all the other >bands. > >We (Mooongluum/Steve, Linuxchaos/Ben, Ormuzd/Nick, Electronic_No1/Ali) had >the pleasure of meeting other list members like Jill, JJ, Colm. And as we >waited for a taxi afterwards, Dave and Kris drove out & said goodbye to us. >The whole thing was utterly brilliant! > >Steve > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Dave Bottomley >To: >Sent: 19 August 2001 14:43 >Subject: HW: Canterbury > > >> For those that couldn't be there, some quick Canterbury thoughts: >> >> Thoroughly enjoyable day & HW set. Sound not always perfect - sometimes >hard >> to hear Huw - but a lively performance. >> >> Surprise no 1 - No Jerry >> Surprise no 2 - No Ron >> Surprise no 3 - 5th Second of Forever as set opener >> >> Line-up: Brock/Chadwick/Davey/Lloyd-Langton/Kniveton/House (+ Arthur >Brown) >> >> Set-list: >> 5th Second of Forever (!!!!) >> Levitation >> Spiral Galaxy 28948 >> Solitary Mind Games >> Angels of Death >> Spirit of the Age >> Magnu/Dust of Time >> Motorway City >> Hurry on Sundown >> Assassins of Allah/Space is Their >> Silver Machine (w/ Arthur Brown) >> >> Encore 1: >> Assault & Battery >> Golden Void >> >> Encore 2: >> Ejection >> >> Feels like it's 1982.......... ;@) >> >> Approx. 1hr 45mins >> >> My recollection of the song order between AoD & Assassins may be somewhat >> unreliable....... >> >> Have I missed anything? >> >> Anyone know the score with Ron & Jerry? Was it simply that they couldn't >> make it yesterday or is there more to it? >> >> Dave >> From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Aug 19 18:57:11 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 23:57:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury In-Reply-To: <002201c128d5$b5c339a0$ece52ac2@wznhfnxm> Message-ID: In message <002201c128d5$b5c339a0$ece52ac2 at wznhfnxm>, Moonglum writes >Set list is about right. Great gig, on a par with Croydon for me, others >thought "best ever" Definitely up there among the best. The line-up of DB/Huw/Alan/Simon/Rich, plus Keith, felt like the most authentic HW I'd seen for some time. Didn't honestly miss those who weren't there (no Jez or- hurrah!- Rizz in addition to the rather more noteworthy absences of Ron and Jerry) which is not to do them down but just a reflection of how well the band played. The intensely powerful sound of recent times was augmented by Huw, who played a blinder- forget his Brixton nightmare, he was great- the guitar sound a little less metal than of yore, mixing with the music better than in the past I thought. Huw was HW through-and-through last night, making matey asides to the crowd, wisecracking to Alan and generally looking like he'd never been away. Only time I missed Ron was on Spirit of the Age which was just about the only number not to catch fire i.e. it was merely good when all else was great. Best ever versions of Levitation, Solitary Mind Games (now a 10 minute epic with plenty of jamming), Ejection, and Silver Machine with Arthur Brown's irresistible showmanship- and voice- bringing the house down. No new material whatsoever- nothing post-'82- which presumably reflects Huw's unfamiliarity with more recent stuff, but some of the set changes may well be here to stay... especially *if* the line-up has changed more than we all thought... Other memories of the day: Great setting, laid-back atmosphere, intriguing to finally put some faces to boc-l names. Was a bit disppointed to miss Osibisa who sounded interesting. Then again, I was sure I was gonna like Caravan after all I'd read about them- and I didn't, not at all. Occasionally they sounded exciting but mostly they were complex-but-bland bad prog mixed with unpleasant AOR vocals- apologies to caravan fans on the list. Porcupine Tree were good, although Arthur Brown introduced them by saying they were going to play a few familiar songs but also try "an experiment"- whatever the experiment was I missed it, as it was basically the same set as the recent tour with a different running order and a few numbers omitted (no acoustic set thankfully). Highlights for me were 'Tinto Brass' and 'Up The Downstair', was it just my imagination or was Steve Wilson upset about something- he had an unnecessarily prissy go at people who were shouting for songs and generally looked a bit fed up by the end, and the predictable 'Radioactive Toy' encore was going-through-the-motions stuff. But who cares- it was Hawkwind's night. I see there is already (!) a neo- quark tree but will anything official be forthcoming? -- Nick Medford From klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Aug 19 19:06:54 2001 From: klkirk64 at HOTMAIL.COM (keith kirk) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 23:06:54 +0000 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles Message-ID: is not the taste moor like the fact that every galaxy has a dark area where either it at its core is time in complete reverse affecting the mass in such a way as to affect its existance ie,the strain of sepperation that causis the dark area of space in the centre of all galaxies ,in comparason to the pressure that causis mass to exist.or does the strain of sepperation have such strenth as to cause an anti mass to exist therefore not only affecting time and masses existance but possably a doorway to another universe or universis and a easier way to other galaxies of our own universe,so how do rainbows taste. >From: mike c >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Barney Bubbles >Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:14:47 -0600 > >Mick (the artist?) > >It, it, let me see, it involves - no thats not it, it concerns the..,Aaargh >no I've lost it again - it would be easier to describe the taste of a >rainbow. Mike, be content that such Knowledge is best reserved for actual >Band members - Lords of the Hawk - I shouldn't have seen it > > > A string of existence whereby the spirit realm occupies the upper portion >and the material is at the lower, and one where the galaxies are spread out >across, and band members have speakers strategiclly positioned to form >intersections of sound creating interactive new mental tones in the minds >of the audience, and of how the positioning of the performers (standing) >on painted platforms, each unique and attuned especially for each >player,are able to bring out the ultimate individual part to throw into the >mix of interplay with the audience bouncing back at the band and forming >unity, manifesting in various hues of color as reflected in the painting on >the amplifiers???? sort of a hub and wheel where the stadium is >participating on the full scope of awareness???? >m _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From erics at TELEPRES.COM Sun Aug 19 21:08:42 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:08:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: Classical-music fans may have more brains In-Reply-To: <3B7E86F1.52BD4B92@execpc.com>; from kkusic@EXECPC.COM on Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 10:17:05AM -0500 Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 10:17:05AM -0500, Karen Kusic wrote: > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/healthscience/134327382_brain12.html Hmmm, what about those of us that like both? Reminds me of once in Grade 9 or 10 English class -- early '70s. The teacher was gloating over some claim that plants thrived if you played classical music at them, but suffered in some way I no longer recall -- stunted growth? withering? -- if subjected to rock.) To which one of the class "losers" piped up: "Well, sir, that just goes to show we're not vegetables!" ("Loser" was the teacher's term -- he'd never get away with that now, I suppose.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Aug 19 23:21:49 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 23:21:49 EDT Subject: OFF: Classical-music fans may have more brains Message-ID: >>In a message dated 8/18/2001 11:18:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kkusic at EXECPC.COM writes: > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/healthscience/134327382_brain12.html<< > As Persaud put it, "What this may mean is that you require more gray matter to appreciate classical music and that you don't need so much gray matter to appreciate pop music, so as you lose gray matter your taste in music changes accordingly." This may explain why some adult neighbors here listen to the same pre-teen music as their pre-teens? or is it a classic case of "culturally challenged? bob From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Aug 20 02:34:46 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:34:46 -0600 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Like Skittles and Skelmsdale, but the blue eminems are a better example if you are not afraid of tasting dead weight.....or time displacement... a mangy kurtosis <<*is not the taste moor like the fact that every galaxy has a dark area where either it at its core is time in complete reverse affecting the mass in such a way as to affect its existance ie,the strain of sepperation that causis the dark area of space in the centre of all galaxies ,in comparason to the pressure that causis mass to exist.or does the strain of sepperation have>such strenth as to cause an anti mass to exist therefore not only affectingtime and masses existance but possably a doorway to another universe or universis and a easier way to other galaxies of our own universe,so how do rainbows taste. Keith Kur(k)*>> From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Aug 20 05:29:50 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:29:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury In-Reply-To: <200108192131.RAA07053@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Alastair Lee Sumner wrote: > Ok, for me this gig was one of the most enjoyable of all the HW gigs that > I've ever been to and I'm usually quite critical of HW gigs. And what glorious weather! It was raining in bursts, enough to stop those of us dancing from overheating, but not enough to turnn it inot a mud bath and the lights kept catching the rain, and the dew on the grass, shimmering golden. But mainly I think the reason this gig was the best Hawkwind I've ever been to was that Bob was more clearly present than he has been before - and having a whale of a time. And, as other people have said, the whole thing was on some other planet. Like being swept away, out of reality. . > The light show was fairly simple but very solid and colourful with some > cool oils and computer graphics. Wicked stuff! At one point the whole stage was wreathed incoloured somke - excellent stuff. > The festival itself was not full but there was enough people there and many > were Hawkfans. There was no hostile atmosphere and many families were > there. I had a really good day. Top stuff! It was nice to see so many children./ Sadly, my own wee one appeared unimpressed by hawkwind, and fell asleep - he didn;t seem to believe us when we pointed out that they were Hawkwind, same as on the records. he liked Porcupine Tree though, recognised them. > I didn't care about the other bands, I was busy preparing myself for > Hawkwind. I'll have to listen to Porcupine Tree another time. > Shame. Josiah were just good clean fun, I'll definitely be attempting to acquire some at some stage - the Hamsters were great,. The first time I'd ever heard them, and, well, they rock as only people who've been doing it for ever can. Osibisu, or whatever they're actually called, were pleasant but nothing special imho, Caravan got heavier, and thus better as they got towards the end of their set, and Porcupine Tree rocked. Yes, of course Steve looked like he wasn't enjoying himself - he';s a goth, he'd rather sit around and mope. He's a gloomy buzzard, and that's allk there is to it. It aalways amazes me how stuff which is vaguely OK in a poppy fashion in the studio takes off live with PT. Good stuff. Kirsten -- Kirsten Procter ghoti http://www.mono.org, http://www.snowplains.org and http://www.harem.org From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Aug 20 05:31:37 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:31:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: Classical-music fans may have more brains In-Reply-To: <20010819210842.A700@telepres.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Eric Siegerman wrote: > On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 10:17:05AM -0500, Karen Kusic wrote: > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/healthscience/134327382_brain12.html > > Hmmm, what about those of us that like both? > Me, i find my 'classical' upbringing changes my view of experimental rock. Jon says 'wow, this is weird' and I say 'this ids great, but it's, like, normal. What you talking about?' -- Kirsten Procter ghoti http://www.mono.org, http://www.snowplains.org and http://www.harem.org From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 20 08:07:14 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:07:14 +0100 Subject: HW: Canterbury In-Reply-To: Moonglum's message of Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:38:03 +0100 Message-ID: Moonglum writes: > The band were firing on all cylinders, every single one of them played a > blinder. Dave's guitar was well to the fore and the version of Silver > Machine was stunningly good. Arthur Brown was superb -what a voice!- and I > took about 15 photos....to follow, hopefully.... > > Caravan were AOR. Porcupine Tree were pretty good. Missed all the other > bands. > > We (Mooongluum/Steve, Linuxchaos/Ben, Ormuzd/Nick, Electronic_No1/Ali) had > the pleasure of meeting other list members like Jill, JJ, Colm. And as we > waited for a taxi afterwards, Dave and Kris drove out & said goodbye to us. > The whole thing was utterly brilliant! Damn. You're making me regret missing this one. Ach weel, there's November... FoFP From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Mon Aug 20 08:21:53 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:21:53 -0400 Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use Message-ID: I have a feeling Captain Black might know the answer to this question. There is an effect that was used in the early 70s on the Space Ritual and also on Doremi I think. It is most noticeable on the left channel when you listen to Orgone Accumulator and Upside Down. It is hard to descibe but sounds like an echo of the guitar or sometimes like an echo of the sound of the entire band or something and goes ta ta ta ta ta. It kind of sounds like the volume is being repeatedly turned on and off. I noticed a similar effect at the last Croydon gig and it was more noticeable for me on Saturday at Canterbury. I think it was during Levitation or Magnu but I definitely remember it during Hurry on Sundown. Can anybody tell me what it is? It is very hypnotic and sounds amazing along with the lights. Sorry I can't descibe it better, I just hope somebody knows what the hell I'm on about. Alastair. From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Mon Aug 20 08:33:37 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:33:37 -0400 Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use Message-ID: I think it's synth going through a tremolo effect. Tremolo is volume variation of a signal, alterable in terms of speed and intensity. For a non-HW version, think of the guitar in the Smiths' "How Soon Is Now" For a HW version, the original studio version of Spirit Of The Age has it on DB's guitar. Here, the intensity is probably on maximum, i.e. between the signal pulses you hear nothing at all, hence ta ta ta ta ta etc. Sorry to quote guitar examples only, but that's where it's more usually used! HW breaking the mould as usual... Steve --------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:21:53 -0400, Alastair Lee Sumner wrote: >There is an effect that was used in the early 70s on the Space Ritual and >also on Doremi I think. It is most noticeable on the left channel when you >listen to Orgone Accumulator and Upside Down. It is hard to descibe but >sounds like an echo of the guitar or sometimes like an echo of the sound of >the entire band or something and goes ta ta ta ta ta. It kind of sounds >like the volume is being repeatedly turned on and off. From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Mon Aug 20 09:02:09 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:02:09 +0100 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: Guess what I just picked up for a reasonable sum at HMV Oxford Street? I'll give you some clues: There's only 500 of them, it doesn't fit in your CD rack and it's really heavy... Keef ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > ............and it shouldn't have even been available at all were it not for > a weird mistake............. > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mike c" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:10 PM > Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street > > > and there is not even a hook on the thing for hanging!! what were they > > thinking?? didn't get the art right either, IMO, it's messy.....don't > drop > > it on your foot..... > > m c > > > > > > Yeah, I was in there on Tuesday and could'nt resist buying a limited > > Griffin Undisclosed Files with the free half hundred weight of metal > > shield. The guy behind the counter almost had an hernia when he picked it > > up! > > > > Mick From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Aug 20 09:44:59 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:44:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use In-Reply-To: <200108201233.IAA09615@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Moonglum wrote: > I think it's synth going through a tremolo effect. Tremolo is volume > variation of a signal, alterable in terms of speed and intensity. Ahem. Tremolo: lit trembling, the rapid repetition of a note or notes without measured time value. Also used (particualrly in vocal work) as the same as vibrato, that is a slight, rapid fluctution of pitch. Volume shouldn't be effected at all at all Kirsten -- Kirsten Procter ghoti NP: BOC - COTHM From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 20 10:10:32 2001 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:10:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use Message-ID: I hate to say this, but you're both right. In classical terms, tremolo is akin to vibrato, a variance in pitch. In music technology terms tremolo (also spelt tremelo) is the rapid reduction and resoration of an instrument's volume level. The were commonly built into both amplifiers and keyboards, and have become more widely available again (in pedal form) in the last five or six years. The confusing bit is when you play a strat with a tremolo unit through a tremelo effect..... Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirsten Procter" To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: Re: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Moonglum wrote: > > > I think it's synth going through a tremolo effect. Tremolo is volume > > variation of a signal, alterable in terms of speed and intensity. > > > Ahem. Tremolo: lit trembling, the rapid repetition of a note or notes > without measured time value. Also used (particualrly in vocal work) as > the same as vibrato, that is a slight, rapid fluctution of pitch. > > Volume shouldn't be effected at all at all > > > > Kirsten > > -- > Kirsten Procter ghoti > NP: BOC - COTHM > From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Mon Aug 20 10:48:37 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:48:37 -0400 Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use Message-ID: These may all be different effects but there are two places where you can hear what I'm trying to describe. 1. Listen to Upside Down on Space Ritual with headphones, especially the last verse. The effect is very obvious in your left ear. It's like an echo or reverb effect. It's quite bubbly at times 2. On Doremi at the end of Brainstorm, that guitar bit after evreything else has finished. I also heard something similar during the live performance on Saturday. I pictured some kind of weird washboard that makes these noises. Alastair. On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:33:37 -0400, Moonglum wrote: >I think it's synth going through a tremolo effect. Tremolo is volume >variation of a signal, alterable in terms of speed and intensity. > >For a non-HW version, think of the guitar in the Smiths' "How Soon Is Now" > >For a HW version, the original studio version of Spirit Of The Age has it >on DB's guitar. Here, the intensity is probably on maximum, i.e. between >the signal pulses you hear nothing at all, hence ta ta ta ta ta etc. > >Sorry to quote guitar examples only, but that's where it's more usually >used! HW breaking the mould as usual... > >Steve > > >--------------------------------------------------------- >On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:21:53 -0400, Alastair Lee Sumner > wrote: > > >>There is an effect that was used in the early 70s on the Space Ritual and >>also on Doremi I think. It is most noticeable on the left channel when you >>listen to Orgone Accumulator and Upside Down. It is hard to descibe but >>sounds like an echo of the guitar or sometimes like an echo of the sound of >>the entire band or something and goes ta ta ta ta ta. It kind of sounds >>like the volume is being repeatedly turned on and off. From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Mon Aug 20 10:55:30 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:55:30 -0400 Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use Message-ID: My definition of tremolo was definitely intended in terms of musical technology. I never call the vibrato unit on a guitar a "trem" because I was brought up to distinguish between tremolo (variation in volume) and vibrato (variation in pitch)! Doesn't answer Ali's question though - anyone got an ideas? Steve ------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:10:32 +0100, Chris Allen wrote: >I hate to say this, but you're both right. > >In classical terms, tremolo is akin to vibrato, a variance in pitch. >In music technology terms tremolo (also spelt tremelo) is the rapid >reduction and resoration of an instrument's volume level. The were commonly >built into both amplifiers and keyboards, and have become more widely >available again (in pedal form) in the last five or six years. >The confusing bit is when you play a strat with a tremolo unit through a >tremelo effect..... > > > >Chris. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kirsten Procter" >To: >Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:44 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use > > >> On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Moonglum wrote: >> >> > I think it's synth going through a tremolo effect. Tremolo is volume >> > variation of a signal, alterable in terms of speed and intensity. >> >> >> Ahem. Tremolo: lit trembling, the rapid repetition of a note or notes >> without measured time value. Also used (particualrly in vocal work) as >> the same as vibrato, that is a slight, rapid fluctution of pitch. >> >> Volume shouldn't be effected at all at all >> >> >> >> Kirsten >> >> -- >> Kirsten Procter >ghoti >> NP: BOC - COTHM >> From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Mon Aug 20 11:15:31 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:15:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use Message-ID: Just call it a whammy bar and you're fine! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moonglum" To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 3:55 PM Subject: Re: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use > My definition of tremolo was definitely intended in terms of musical > technology. I never call the vibrato unit on a guitar a "trem" because I > was brought up to distinguish between tremolo (variation in volume) and > vibrato (variation in pitch)! > > Doesn't answer Ali's question though - anyone got an ideas? > > Steve > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:10:32 +0100, Chris Allen > wrote: > > >I hate to say this, but you're both right. > > > >In classical terms, tremolo is akin to vibrato, a variance in pitch. > >In music technology terms tremolo (also spelt tremelo) is the rapid > >reduction and resoration of an instrument's volume level. The were > commonly > >built into both amplifiers and keyboards, and have become more widely > >available again (in pedal form) in the last five or six years. > >The confusing bit is when you play a strat with a tremolo unit through a > >tremelo effect..... > > > > > > > >Chris. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Kirsten Procter" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:44 PM > >Subject: Re: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use > > > > > >> On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Moonglum wrote: > >> > >> > I think it's synth going through a tremolo effect. Tremolo is volume > >> > variation of a signal, alterable in terms of speed and intensity. > >> > >> > >> Ahem. Tremolo: lit trembling, the rapid repetition of a note or notes > >> without measured time value. Also used (particualrly in vocal work) as > >> the same as vibrato, that is a slight, rapid fluctution of pitch. > >> > >> Volume shouldn't be effected at all at all > >> > >> > >> > >> Kirsten > >> > >> -- > >> Kirsten Procter > >ghoti > >> NP: BOC - COTHM > >> From benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Aug 20 11:55:03 2001 From: benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:55:03 +0100 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: What was your number Keith? Mine is 171 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barton" To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street > Guess what I just picked up for a reasonable sum at HMV Oxford Street? > I'll give you some clues: There's only 500 of them, it doesn't fit in your CD > rack and it's really heavy... > > Keef > > > > ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > > > ............and it shouldn't have even been available at all were it not for > > a weird mistake............. > > Andy Garibaldi > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "mike c" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:10 PM > > Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street > > > > > and there is not even a hook on the thing for hanging!! what were they > > > thinking?? didn't get the art right either, IMO, it's messy.....don't > > drop > > > it on your foot..... > > > m c > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I was in there on Tuesday and could'nt resist buying a limited > > > Griffin Undisclosed Files with the free half hundred weight of metal > > > shield. The guy behind the counter almost had an hernia when he picked it > > > up! > > > > > > Mick From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Mon Aug 20 11:52:06 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:52:06 +0100 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: Ben Fagin wrote: > What was your number Keith? Mine is 171 Bah! 257 From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 20 12:36:34 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:36:34 -0400 Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use In-Reply-To: <200108201448.KAA10467@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Alastair Lee Sumner wrote: => I also heard something similar during the live performance on Saturday. I => pictured some kind of weird washboard that makes these noises. Funnily enough, I have witnessed exactly that live in concert, although not with Hawkwind. When I enjoyed the North Mississippi All Stars set during Farm Aid 2000, at one point the drummer got down from his kit and came to the front of the stage and started playing a really nice solo on a washboard played through a fuzz box and wah-wah pedal. It was severely cool. I wish more bands did that. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Mon Aug 20 13:19:40 2001 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David Greenhalgh) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 02:19:40 +0900 Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use Message-ID: Sounds more like gated reverb or just a pure gate if it affects the whole mix. You modulate the effect with a rythmic signal, a slow square wave or the output of a drum machine. The result is to make the whole thing sound like someone is wanging the volume up and down. Just a suggestion Dave From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Mon Aug 20 13:46:28 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:46:28 -0400 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: Keith wrote: > Ben Fagin wrote: > > What was your number Keith? Mine is 171 > >Bah! 257 Hey so's mine! Only joking Mick (238 also from Oxford St.) -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 20 14:02:31 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:02:31 +0100 Subject: HW:re:effects used Message-ID: I have an idea that it is Dave's guitar going through the EMS synths on a seperate channel to the main guitar.;.... From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Mon Aug 20 14:02:39 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:02:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use Message-ID: This I can answer! The guitar bit after everything else has finished on Brainstorm/Doremi: that IS tremolo (musical technology meaning thereof) but it's unusual because the speed of the effect is constantly varied. I have managed to reproduce this same effect as follows: 1. Guitar/amp with distorted tone - start whacking out those Hawkwind power chords (B -A - G - F#) 2. Tremolo unit (mine is a Roger Mayer Voodoo Vibe) set to intense square-wave tremolo settings 3. Volume pedal connected to tremolo pedal purely to control the speed. 4. Move foot up and down on the volume pedal to slow down and speed up the tremolo effect. If you had a tremolo unit without the ability to use an external volume pedal to control the speed, you could get the same effect by taking off your socks and shoes and using your bare feet to rotate the speed control on the tremolo unit while you are playing. Or get a friend to do this for you (but put your socks and shoes back on please). Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Alastair Lee Sumner To: Sent: 20 August 2001 15:48 Subject: Re: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use > These may all be different effects but there are two places where you can > hear what I'm trying to describe. > > 2. On Doremi at the end of Brainstorm, that guitar bit after evreything > else has finished. > > From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Aug 20 14:36:53 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:36:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use Message-ID: In answer to your query: I take a line-out from Dave's guitar amp and feed it into Input 2 of the second EMS I use. The signal is then ring-modulated against a not-quite-pure sine-wave, and fed through a filter. The cut-off of the filter is then tweaked in real time using a joystick... ...which is more or less the way Del did it on Doremi and Space Ritual. NEXT! Can anyone out there do me a CD-R set of the Canterbury gig please - it sounded great on stage but its always useful to hear it from the point of view of the audience. Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alastair Lee Sumner To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:21 PM Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use > I have a feeling Captain Black might know the answer to this question. > > There is an effect that was used in the early 70s on the Space Ritual and > also on Doremi I think. It is most noticeable on the left channel when you > listen to Orgone Accumulator and Upside Down. It is hard to descibe but > sounds like an echo of the guitar or sometimes like an echo of the sound of > the entire band or something and goes ta ta ta ta ta. It kind of sounds > like the volume is being repeatedly turned on and off. > > I noticed a similar effect at the last Croydon gig and it was more > noticeable for me on Saturday at Canterbury. I think it was during > Levitation or Magnu but I definitely remember it during Hurry on Sundown. > > Can anybody tell me what it is? It is very hypnotic and sounds amazing > along with the lights. Sorry I can't descibe it better, I just hope > somebody knows what the hell I'm on about. > > Alastair. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Aug 20 15:00:28 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:00:28 -0400 Subject: OFF: HW: Harvest box set, cheap! Message-ID: Hi, just to clear up a bit of confusion - the Tower store near my workplace is/used-to-be the Tower "outlet", where they'd sell discounted cut-outs and the like that were no longer available in the regular stores, so you probably won't be able to get the cut-rate prices there at any other Tower, including online. There were only two copies of the Harvest set in the store, and when I went back the next day, the one I hadn't bought was already gone. Of course, given Tower's current financial situation, it won't be a bit surprising if their entire inventory is sold for cheap in the near future ... Sorry if I got peoples' hopes up (but when bargains like that come up, you need to act FAST - nice to know I got the #2 score of the year!) ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:15:53 +0100, Chris Warburton wrote: >Belatedly... H*ly Sh*t B*tm*n - I paid the best part of fifty quid to get >my mitts on that! > >There are the inevitable "sins of omission & commission", but if you're >into the period it's a fantastic set... > >ChrisW > >At 00:36 10/08/01, you wrote: >>25 dollars!!!!!!!!!! Jeez - that's less than the dealer cost price ex-VAT >>over here - second only to the other guy's Undisclosed Files Metal Shield >>as bargain shop purchase of the year to date, methinks. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Aug 20 15:05:21 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:05:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: Classical-music fans may have more brains Message-ID: On Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:08:42 -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: >Reminds me of once in Grade 9 or 10 English class -- early '70s. >The teacher was gloating over some claim that plants thrived if >you played classical music at them, but suffered in some way I no >longer recall -- stunted growth? withering? -- if subjected to >rock.) > >To which one of the class "losers" piped up: "Well, sir, that >just goes to show we're not vegetables!" > >("Loser" was the teacher's term -- he'd never get away with that >now, I suppose.) Don't forget that Ramones music makes the heads of mice explode!!! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Aug 20 15:08:04 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:08:04 -0500 Subject: OFF: HW: Harvest box set, cheap! Message-ID: Thanks for the info Doug. Thanks to Laura too for checking out the Tower near her. Online at $69.99 with free shipping it's still an OK deal but at $25 it was a steal! :) http://www.towerrecords.com/product.asp?pfid=1715969 Karen Doug Pearson wrote: > > Hi, > > just to clear up a bit of confusion - the Tower store near my workplace > is/used-to-be the Tower "outlet", where they'd sell discounted cut-outs and > the like that were no longer available in the regular stores, so you > probably won't be able to get the cut-rate prices there at any other Tower, > including online. There were only two copies of the Harvest set in the > store, and when I went back the next day, the one I hadn't bought was > already gone. > > Of course, given Tower's current financial situation, it won't be a bit > surprising if their entire inventory is sold for cheap in the near > future ... > > Sorry if I got peoples' hopes up (but when bargains like that come up, you > need to act FAST - nice to know I got the #2 score of the year!) ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > > On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:15:53 +0100, Chris Warburton > wrote: > >Belatedly... H*ly Sh*t B*tm*n - I paid the best part of fifty quid to get > >my mitts on that! > > > >There are the inevitable "sins of omission & commission", but if you're > >into the period it's a fantastic set... > > > >ChrisW > > > >At 00:36 10/08/01, you wrote: > >>25 dollars!!!!!!!!!! Jeez - that's less than the dealer cost price ex-VAT > >>over here - second only to the other guy's Undisclosed Files Metal Shield > >>as bargain shop purchase of the year to date, methinks. From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Mon Aug 20 15:18:38 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:18:38 -0600 Subject: HMV Oxford Street In-Reply-To: <001901c12990$79b32ea0$a75f1f3e@administrator> Message-ID: I've got # 10. Anyone else? MarkL -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Ben Fagin Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street What was your number Keith? Mine is 171 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barton" To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street > Guess what I just picked up for a reasonable sum at HMV Oxford Street? > I'll give you some clues: There's only 500 of them, it doesn't fit in your CD > rack and it's really heavy... > > Keef From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Aug 20 15:24:32 2001 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:24:32 +0100 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: bugger i've been down to HMV oxford street a lot recently and i've never seen one, was it in with the box sets? Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 Currently listening to: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barton" To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 4:52 PM Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street > Ben Fagin wrote: > > > What was your number Keith? Mine is 171 > > Bah! 257 From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Mon Aug 20 16:03:16 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:03:16 +0100 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: Sold out by 6pm. Mind you, there are 2 HMVs on Oxford Street - which one (I went in the big one)? --- Kevin Perry The Mountain Grill http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Colm McWilliams To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 8:24 PM Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street > bugger i've been down to HMV oxford street a lot recently and i've never > seen one, was it in with the box sets? > > > > Colm McWilliams > ICQ: #62753543 > Currently listening to: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Barton" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street > > > > Ben Fagin wrote: > > > > > What was your number Keith? Mine is 171 > > > > Bah! 257 From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Aug 20 17:06:38 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:06:38 -0400 Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:36:53 +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >I take a line-out from Dave's guitar amp and feed it into Input 2 of the >second EMS I use. The signal is then ring-modulated against a not-quite- >pure sine-wave, and fed through a filter. The cut-off of the filter is >then tweaked in real time using a joystick... > >...which is more or less the way Del did it on Doremi and Space Ritual. Cool! Thanks for the info! >NEXT! OK - Does the other axis of the joystick modulate the Ring Mod carrier frequency? Or is that fixed? Or knob-tweaked? (And if the former, does the pitch match the key of the song or is it arbitrary ... or are you referring to a sub-audio signal as the Ring Mod carrier to get a tremelo- type effect [which might match the tempo of the song ... or not]?) (Joystick axes for the considerably-smaller gig I played saturday: #1X - LFO frequency - about .25Hz to 250Hz #1Y - VCA controlling LFO triangle wave modulation amount #2X - VCO/wavetable frequency - about 20Hz to 20kHz #2Y - VCF cutoff - about 0Hz to 20kHz ... plus LFO square wave modulation amount, noise clock frequency, noise filter cutoff & linear/audio-frequency modulation amount controlled with the knobs; wavetable sweep EG triggered with button. Damn those joysticks are useful when playing keyboard melodies with one hand and synth noises with the other!) WRT the "Spirit of the Age" guitar intro effect - when we rehearsed this for my short-lived (one gig!) tribute band, the guitarist experimented with using both a tremelo pedal or a delay pedal for the "stuttering"/"choppy" guitar sound, and found the latter to be far more effective. You need to tweak the delay time to match the rhythm you're trying to get, and then the delay feedback/repeat setting to make sure there are enough repeats to fill out the bar (the problem with a tremelo pedal is that, unless you're playing the guitar through a compressor, or have a Les Paul that sustains- for-days, the chords decay too quickly for the last repeats to be heard properly). Then, just hit the chord, immediately mute it, and let the delay pedal do the work for you! Either way, your bandmates need to realize that the tempo of the song is established by the delay time/tremelo rate. And the essential guitar effect for the Doremi/Space Ritual era: Coloursound Fuzz/Wah! -Doug (too-much-useless-info) jasret at mindspring.com From coral at APORT.RU Mon Aug 20 17:55:23 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 01:55:23 +0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond help! Message-ID: Hello! Please tell me what is the best Bevis Frond album to start to know his music? thanks, Alice From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Mon Aug 20 18:05:01 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:05:01 -0400 Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use Message-ID: Thanks for the info. I've always wondered how it was done. Alastair. On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:36:53 +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >In answer to your query: > >I take a line-out from Dave's guitar amp and feed it into Input 2 of the >second EMS I use. The signal is then ring-modulated against a not-quite- pure >sine-wave, and fed through a filter. The cut-off of the filter is then >tweaked in real time using a joystick... > >...which is more or less the way Del did it on Doremi and Space Ritual. > >NEXT! > >Can anyone out there do me a CD-R set of the Canterbury gig please - it >sounded great on stage but its always useful to hear it from the point of >view of the audience. > >Captain Bl at ck. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Alastair Lee Sumner >To: >Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:21 PM >Subject: HW: Effects that Hawkwind use > > >> I have a feeling Captain Black might know the answer to this question. >> >> There is an effect that was used in the early 70s on the Space Ritual and >> also on Doremi I think. It is most noticeable on the left channel when you >> listen to Orgone Accumulator and Upside Down. It is hard to descibe but >> sounds like an echo of the guitar or sometimes like an echo of the sound >of >> the entire band or something and goes ta ta ta ta ta. It kind of sounds >> like the volume is being repeatedly turned on and off. >> >> I noticed a similar effect at the last Croydon gig and it was more >> noticeable for me on Saturday at Canterbury. I think it was during >> Levitation or Magnu but I definitely remember it during Hurry on Sundown. >> >> Can anybody tell me what it is? It is very hypnotic and sounds amazing >> along with the lights. Sorry I can't descibe it better, I just hope >> somebody knows what the hell I'm on about. >> >> Alastair. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Aug 20 18:23:29 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:23:29 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond help! Message-ID: On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 01:55:23 +0400, Alice wrote: >Please tell me what is the best Bevis Frond album to start to know his >music? Funny, a friend & I were discussing "best Frond albums" yesterday on the drive back to San Francisco. My votes would be 'Inner Marshland' or 'New River Head'. Also, 'Live at the Great American Music Hall' is a good overview (with it you'll recognize 90% of the songs in the standard live set) and includes Ade Shaw's bass playing (he isn't on most of the studio albums ... and 'Inner Marshland' was recorded before Nick decided he was willing to play live again). I'm sure you'll get a lot of opinions on this one ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 20 18:41:15 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:41:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond help! In-Reply-To: <000701c129c2$d12bfe00$b945efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Alice wrote: => Please tell me what is the best Bevis Frond album to start to know his => music? Quintessential: New River Head Superseeder It Just Is London Stone Any Gas Faster Early era: Inner Marshland Contemporary: Vavona Burr North Circular Live: Live at the Great American Music Hall Get _New River Head_ if you can. If you want a good overview of many periods of the Frond's output then you can't really go wrong with _Live at the Great American Music Hall_ (obHW: feat. Ade Shaw on the bass). (I got a new appreciation of _Son of Walter_ through the live versions...) The odds 'n' sods collection, _A Gathering of Fronds_, is also highly recommended. All this is IMHO! Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From chrisr at TIAC.NET Mon Aug 20 18:48:44 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:48:44 -0400 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: #74 for me. Chris Mark Licht wrote: > I've got # 10. Anyone else? > > MarkL > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Ben Fagin > Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street > > > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 20 17:36:36 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:36:36 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond help! Message-ID: >On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 01:55:23 +0400, Alice wrote: >>Please tell me what is the best Bevis Frond album to start to know his >>music? > >Funny, a friend & I were discussing "best Frond albums" yesterday on the >drive back to San Francisco. My votes would be 'Inner Marshland' or 'New >River Head'. Also, 'Live at the Great American Music Hall' is a good >overview (with it you'll recognize 90% of the songs in the standard live >set) and includes Ade Shaw's bass playing (he isn't on most of the studio >albums ... and 'Inner Marshland' was recorded before Nick decided he was >willing to play live again). > >I'm sure you'll get a lot of opinions on this one ... Yep. I like "Sprawl" the best, though haven't heard them all. The Live album Doug mentions would be my second recommendation. The early albums, like "Inner Marshland" and "Triptych" are pretty muddily recorded, so consider that if it's important to you. The new "Scorched Earth" album (which I think is mainly Frond Folx, plus a few F&R, under pseudonyms) is pretty outstanding too. And Acid Jam 2 also! Definitely get this one! I haven't heard the Fred Bison V thingy, which is another 'spinoff' (note the anagram). What's that like, anybody? And there's the live Country Joe concert w/ Frond backing, if you like his stuff. Grakkl (FAA) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Aug 20 18:58:12 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:58:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond help! Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:36:36 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >I haven't heard the Fred Bison V thingy, which is >another 'spinoff' (note the anagram). What's that like, anybody? The Fred Bison V were Nick's fake "beat" group. More like 1966 garage- meets-psych (Electric Prunes, Pretty Things) than the full-on 1967/68 psychedelia and psychedelic pop of the "proper" Frond albums. Great songs, fine album, and a funny sleeve on which Nick impersonates all four very- different-looking members of the "band" (including the girl drummer!). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 20 18:24:47 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:24:47 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond help! Message-ID: >On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:36:36 -0400, K Henderson >wrote: >>I haven't heard the Fred Bison V thingy, which is >>another 'spinoff' (note the anagram). What's that like, anybody? > >The Fred Bison V were Nick's fake "beat" group. More like 1966 garage- >meets-psych (Electric Prunes, Pretty Things) than the full-on 1967/68 >psychedelia and psychedelic pop of the "proper" Frond albums. Great songs, >fine album, and a funny sleeve on which Nick impersonates all four very- >different-looking members of the "band" (including the girl drummer!). Why were there only four members of the Fred Bison V??? Of course, there are six members of the Linus Pauling Quartet, so who's counting? :) Grakkl (FAA) From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Mon Aug 20 21:19:10 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:19:10 -0400 Subject: First post (well, not really, been here before...) Message-ID: Atlanta calling, I'm baaaack, didja miss me? Anyone know where to get the new Simon House CD on the Black Widow label? What's happening in the wonderful world of Hawkwind and BOC (other than the finally-at-last remasters, the Rhino release of the Stalk Forrest Group material and the gawd-awful disappointment that is Curse Of The Hidden Mirror)? Regards, Craig Shipley mr_ship at bellsouth.net (home) cshipley at veritas.com (work) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 20 20:39:34 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:39:34 -0400 Subject: HW: and BOC: First post Message-ID: Craig asked... >I'm baaaack, didja miss me? Anyone know where to get the new Simon House CD >on the Black Widow label? What's happening in the wonderful world of >Hawkwind... Huw and Alan are back...Keith (Kniveton)'s officially in (synths). Ron and Jerry (and Rizz+) were conspicuously absent at Canterbury, though nobody's sure what that means exactly. Simon H. was there though, and seems to be guesting frequently once again. The new live "Original Hawkwind minus Dave" live CD (on Ozit label) has crappy sound, so don't get it. The other new Nik product (studio?) seems to be pretty good (forgotten it's name already). Hawkwind is touring the UK in early November, and if they follow in Canterbury mode (which I kinda doubt, since they have time between now and then to work up some different material), the set will be all '72-'82 material. AndyGee certainly has the SHouse CD in the UK, but 'we' might actually have it here in the states too. Check the catalog at www.aural-innovations.com - I think I saw some in Jerry's house the last time I was over there. Don't wait long though - he never keeps big stockpiles of things. Apparently, with essentially the old mid-80s lineup back together, there's talk of the Death Generator project actually seeing the light of day in the form of a new 2002 studio album. Somebody noticed another DBrock title in a catalog somewhere, and figured it might be the long-rumoured '7696' CD finally appearing in the marketplace. (Ummm...I'm guessing also that the 'Looking for Love in the Lost Land of Dreams' or whatever that title was, actually became 'Spacebrock' - true?). The EMI remasters (along with the Chicago Live 1999 Party '74) are reappearing in jewelbox form, presumably at a cheaper price. But things like Quark, Warrior, PXR5, and especially '25 Years On' are impossible to find these days, except on Ebay at stupidly inflated prices. Daevid Allen is on tour with the University of Errors in the eastern US right at the moment. Then some dates with Gong this fall in the UK, once or twice appearing with Hawkwind. Tim Blake once got thrown out of a car on tour with HW years ago. Plug your synths through Dave's amp to get the old Space Ritual sound that Del once had. It rained at Canterbury but nobody minded much. Steve Wilson of Porcupine Tree seems to have a moody disposition, and doesn't wear shoes on stage. Foot and mouth disease didn't seem to be an issue there I guess. Everyone agrees that you must have the Starfield CD-R from 1999, which is in fact what I'm listening to right now. Star Nation is a different story (although a good CD as well), and don't get the two confused. Strange Daze 2001 is being held indoors this year (Oct. 26-27), but should (musically) be just as good with Harvey and Mr. Quimby's Beard (whose name might have some strange sexual connotation that I don't understand, 'cause I'm not English) headlining. All details at www.strange-trips.com. Harvey and MQB will also be touring around the eastern US (including the south....still looking for a club in Atlanta to play in...anybody? E-mail Jim) Don't spam the list with silly personal attacks or useless content-less jibber-jabber (as Mr. T would say)....we ain't got no time for that. >and BOC (other than the finally-at-last remasters, the Rhino >release of the Stalk Forrest Group material and the gawd-awful >disappointment that is Curse Of The Hidden Mirror)? Some people liked it. The Helen Wheels tribute is appearing shortly also. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. You can skip this and just read the WWW archives if you want the detailed version. :) From nycademon at HOME.COM Mon Aug 20 22:42:13 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:42:13 -0600 Subject: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Good God, Craig Shipley!?! Will wonders never cease? How the hell are you? Still hanging out at Hooters? :-) You're right, _Curse of the Hidden Mirror_ bites (it's REALLY bad! :-( ), but Hawkwind's _In Your Area_ is quite good. And how about the _Waterfall Cities_, _The Hidden Step_, and _Pyramidion_ CDs by Ozric Tentacles? Glad you're here ya ol' fart! :-) Guido P.S. All IMHO, of course. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Craig Shipley Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:19 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: First post (well, not really, been here before...) Atlanta calling, I'm baaaack, didja miss me? Anyone know where to get the new Simon House CD on the Black Widow label? What's happening in the wonderful world of Hawkwind and BOC (other than the finally-at-last remasters, the Rhino release of the Stalk Forrest Group material and the gawd-awful disappointment that is Curse Of The Hidden Mirror)? Regards, Craig Shipley mr_ship at bellsouth.net (home) cshipley at veritas.com (work) From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 20 22:52:26 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:52:26 -0400 Subject: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Craig Shipley wrote: => I'm baaaack, didja miss me? Anyone know where to get the new Simon House CD => on the Black Widow label? What's happening in the wonderful world of => Hawkwind and BOC (other than the finally-at-last remasters, the Rhino => release of the Stalk Forrest Group material and the gawd-awful => disappointment that is Curse Of The Hidden Mirror)? Is it something in the water that's making all these old BOC-L ancients come back to the fold????? ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Mon Aug 20 23:38:50 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:38:50 EDT Subject: HW: and BOC: First post Message-ID: Keith, That was a seriously lovely recap. I smiled, I laughed. But I am going to suggest you start to cut back a tad on caffeine... love ya bud, Eli Friedman In a message dated 8/20/01 8:55:16 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: << Huw and Alan are back...Keith (Kniveton)'s officially in (synths). Ron and Jerry (and Rizz+) were conspicuously absent at Canterbury, though nobody's sure what that means exactly. Simon H. was there though, and seems to be guesting frequently once again. The new live "Original Hawkwind minus Dave" live CD (on Ozit label) has crappy sound, so don't get it. The other new Nik product (studio?) seems to be pretty good (forgotten it's name already). Hawkwind is touring the UK in early November, and if they follow in Canterbury mode (which I kinda doubt, since they have time between now and then to work up some different material), the set will be all '72-'82 material. AndyGee certainly has the SHouse CD in the UK, but 'we' might actually have it here in the states too. Check the catalog at www.aural-innovations.com - I think I saw some in Jerry's house the last time I was over there. Don't wait long though - he never keeps big stockpiles of things. Apparently, with essentially the old mid-80s lineup back together, there's talk of the Death Generator project actually seeing the light of day in the form of a new 2002 studio album. Somebody noticed another DBrock title in a catalog somewhere, and figured it might be the long-rumoured '7696' CD finally appearing in the marketplace. (Ummm...I'm guessing also that the 'Looking for Love in the Lost Land of Dreams' or whatever that title was, actually became 'Spacebrock' - true?). The EMI remasters (along with the Chicago Live 1999 Party '74) are reappearing in jewelbox form, presumably at a cheaper price. But things like Quark, Warrior, PXR5, and especially '25 Years On' are impossible to find these days, except on Ebay at stupidly inflated prices. Daevid Allen is on tour with the University of Errors in the eastern US right at the moment. Then some dates with Gong this fall in the UK, once or twice appearing with Hawkwind. Tim Blake once got thrown out of a car on tour with HW years ago. Plug your synths through Dave's amp to get the old Space Ritual sound that Del once had. It rained at Canterbury but nobody minded much. Steve Wilson of Porcupine Tree seems to have a moody disposition, and doesn't wear shoes on stage. Foot and mouth disease didn't seem to be an issue there I guess. Everyone agrees that you must have the Starfield CD-R from 1999, which is in fact what I'm listening to right now. Star Nation is a different story (although a good CD as well), and don't get the two confused. Strange Daze 2001 is being held indoors this year (Oct. 26-27), but should (musically) be just as good with Harvey and Mr. Quimby's Beard (whose name might have some strange sexual connotation that I don't understand, 'cause I'm not English) headlining. All details at www.strange-trips.com. Harvey and MQB will also be touring around the eastern US (including the south....still looking for a club in Atlanta to play in...anybody? E-mail Jim) Don't spam the list with silly personal attacks or useless content-less jibber-jabber (as Mr. T would say)....we ain't got no time for that. >and BOC (other than the finally-at-last remasters, the Rhino >release of the Stalk Forrest Group material and the gawd-awful >disappointment that is Curse Of The Hidden Mirror)? Some people liked it. The Helen Wheels tribute is appearing shortly also. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. You can skip this and just read the WWW archives if you want the detailed version. :) From nycademon at HOME.COM Mon Aug 20 23:52:12 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:52:12 -0600 Subject: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yikes, I'm an old BOC-L ancient? :-P . . . Think I'll light my pipe, sit in my old leather armchair and mumble for a spell . . . Guido -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Paul Mather Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 8:52 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Craig Shipley wrote: => I'm baaaack, didja miss me? Anyone know where to get the new Simon House CD => on the Black Widow label? What's happening in the wonderful world of => Hawkwind and BOC (other than the finally-at-last remasters, the Rhino => release of the Stalk Forrest Group material and the gawd-awful => disappointment that is Curse Of The Hidden Mirror)? Is it something in the water that's making all these old BOC-L ancients come back to the fold????? ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Tue Aug 21 01:00:29 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 00:00:29 -0500 Subject: off: ?s Message-ID: Does anybody know any details about the 10/18 Milwaukee date for the Harvey/Quimby beard show. Like will F/i open? They are from there so wouldn't that be cool? What is this place thai joes like? I'm pretty sure I'm going to drive down from Minneapolis to see this show, so I'm curious. Also, I notice Born to Go are not playing the Cleveland show, must be the first strange daze they are not playing. A few months ago I very strange post on a message board which seemed to indicate marc power was in need of "our prayers". Anybody know what's up? From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Aug 21 01:07:59 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 00:07:59 -0500 Subject: off: ?s Message-ID: Hi Dan & list! I'm a Milwaukee connection. Will be there too. I believe Kopecky is supposed to open for this gig. Hey - I mentioned that the F/i guys should be included too. Don't know that it'll happen though. Can send you more info on/off list when it becomes available. Thai Joe's is on the fashionable East Side of Milwaukee. College crowd neighborhood. Supposedly a restaurant with a stage. Haven't been there yet but will be there for Kopecky and Present on Oct 11th. Cool web site with decent info: http://www.thaijoes.com/ Keith - you may want to have Jim L add a link to this venue? Rock on, Karen aka "Bubbles" the Planet Prog webmaster http://planetprog.com Dan Witt wrote: > > Does anybody know any details about the 10/18 Milwaukee date for the > Harvey/Quimby beard show. Like will F/i open? They are from there so > wouldn't that be cool? What is this place thai joes like? I'm pretty sure > I'm going to drive down from Minneapolis to see this show, so I'm curious. > > Also, I notice Born to Go are not playing the Cleveland show, must be the > first strange daze they are not playing. A few months ago I very strange > post on a message board which seemed to indicate marc power was in need of > "our prayers". Anybody know what's up? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 21 02:30:52 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 07:30:52 +0100 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: this is why you are all getting these bargains: --------------------------- Hi Andy, No, we haven't sold a job lot to HMV, but we have brought the price down as we have been sitting on them for so long. We can now offer these to you at $****. This will only until we finish our stock which I believe is around 50 pieces. After that then no more shields will be available. I have also enclosed two lists. The first is deleted titles that you might be interested in and the second is the regular Griffin List that I can offer a one time order of 50% off the SLP. This for our summer sale that we are offering at the moment. ---------------------------- >From the mouth of Griffin - nice of them not to tell CD Services, possibly their best Hawkwind-related customer over the last few years. So,while we foam at the mourh with indignation, at least you are getting bargains. As to that shield and sale, for those unlucky enough not to live near an HMV, CDS will be getting some of that last 50 shields as of today, and more stuff besides, no doubt. Just thought we'd let you know. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Raymond" To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 11:48 PM Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street > #74 for me. > Chris > > Mark Licht wrote: > > > I've got # 10. Anyone else? > > > > MarkL > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Ben Fagin > > Subject: Re: HMV Oxford Street > > > > > > From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Tue Aug 21 05:51:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:51:00 +0100 Subject: Assault and Battery / GV Message-ID: Anyone know the proper chord sequence that A&B starts with (you know, *those* four chords!)? I'm terrible at working out these things... While we're at it, what about Golden Void? Oh yes, and I'm stumped for finding Astounding Sounds on CD, been after it for a year now and the two people who said they could finally burn me a copy failed to do so 8-( - Anyone able to oblige on CDR for a return favour? Reply by email for this one, please 8-) Thanks ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield, slitchfield at ukonline.co.uk Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue Aug 21 06:01:25 2001 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:01:25 +0100 Subject: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:52:26 EDT." Message-ID: > Is it something in the water that's making all these old BOC-L ancients > come back to the fold????? > > ;-) > > Cheers, > > Paul. I guess its some subconscious urge to congregate, maybe in celebration (?) of the list's first decade... It must be 10 years by now ... Steve ? Tim NP: Joe Satriani - Live in San Francisco From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Tue Aug 21 06:11:06 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:11:06 +0100 Subject: Assault and Battery / GV Message-ID: A&B: ACBD GV: AmF (EF during 'So you think the time is past...') ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Litchfield" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 10:51 AM Subject: Assault and Battery / GV > Anyone know the proper chord sequence that A&B starts with (you know, > *those* four chords!)? I'm terrible at working out these things... > > While we're at it, what about Golden Void? > > Oh yes, and I'm stumped for finding Astounding Sounds on CD, been after it > for a year now and the two people who said they could finally burn me a > copy failed to do so 8-( - Anyone able to oblige on CDR for a return > favour? Reply by email for this one, please 8-) > > Thanks > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield, slitchfield at ukonline.co.uk > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Aug 21 06:08:36 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:08:36 +0200 Subject: Assault and Battery / GV In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Steve, >Anyone know the proper chord sequence that A&B starts with (you know, >*those* four chords!)? I'm terrible at working out these things... ASSAULT & BATTERY PART I Verse: D# F# F G#t "Lives of great men all remind us, we may make our lives sublime . . " Chorus: C# B G# D# "So your thoughts they were expecting assault and battery on the human anatomy G# D# C# assault and battery on the human anatomy, man . . ." >While we're at it, what about Golden Void? THE GOLDEN VOID PART II Verse: G#m F# E F# "Golden Void, speaks to me, denying my reality . . ." Chorus: A# B B/C#/B/A# "So you think the time has passed, the life you lead will always last . . " I hope that'll help (the spacing may be a bit odd, due to non/proportional fonts) (c)IAO D'back from a ~2 month net hiatus'+R np: Chrome, "3rd From The Sun" -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 21 06:57:38 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:57:38 +0100 Subject: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:52:26 -0400 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Craig Shipley wrote: > > => I'm baaaack > Is it something in the water that's making all these old BOC-L ancients > come back to the fold????? For it is writen that in the end times thre shall be called home heroes. The call will be heard as of many voices crying in the desert. Neither shall they be stopped by wind, rain, sleet or snow. Nor shall they be delayed by the siren voices of the flesh, nor of the belly, nor any televisual entertainment or other unclean thing. Woe be unto those who stand in their way, for they shall be cursed unto the third generation. A plague shall also be visited upon those who by word, deed or contract shall hold them in thrall, particularly on trains for there will be a great wailing and a gnashing of teeth. And when they return, the fatted calf will be slain and a rejoicing will be heard throughout the land. Apportionment will also be made for those that will not partake of the lamb nor the cow, nor of any cloven hooved beast, and who will eat only lentils and other brown things, for such strangenesses are also signs of the end times. From makila at IKI.FI Tue Aug 21 07:21:21 2001 From: makila at IKI.FI (Niko Makila) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:21:21 +0300 Subject: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: <200108211001.LAA29090@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, bart wrote: > I guess its some subconscious urge to congregate, maybe in celebration (?) of > the list's first decade... > It must be 10 years by now ... Steve ? I'd put my bet on 11 years. Hmm... there was no celebration. How about making a ``20 years of BOC-L'' T-Shirt? If we start now, it could be ready in time. Anyway, welcome back Guido and Craig! //niko From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Aug 21 07:32:48 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:32:48 +0200 Subject: OFF: New e-mail address Message-ID: Hi My e-mail address has changed !!! - new address: bernhard.pospiech at t-online.de - old address: (bernhard.pospiech at home.ins.de) Starting: NOW !!! Thanks Bernhard Pospiech From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Tue Aug 21 08:03:14 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:03:14 -0400 Subject: First post (well, not really, been here before...) Message-ID: >I'm baaaack, didja miss me? Anyone know where to get the new Simon House CD >on the Black Widow label? What's happening in the wonderful world of >Hawkwind and BOC (other than the finally-at-last remasters, the Rhino >release of the Stalk Forrest Group material and the gawd-awful >disappointment that is Curse Of The Hidden Mirror)? Should I just shoot you now, or do that later? Hmmm... :-) The more I listen to "Curse", the more I like it. Well, there are still some tracks I'm having trouble with, but man, I just love "Out of the darkness"... Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Tue Aug 21 08:03:24 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:03:24 -0400 Subject: First post (well, not really, been here before...) Message-ID: Uhh... what have you been smoking, man? Oh, wait. I don't want to know :-) Alex. >For it is writen that in the end times thre shall be called home heroes. >The call will be heard as of many voices crying in the desert. Neither >shall they be stopped by wind, rain, sleet or snow. Nor shall they be >delayed by the siren voices of the flesh, nor of the belly, nor any >televisual entertainment or other unclean thing. Woe be unto those who >stand in their way, for they shall be cursed unto the third generation. >A plague shall also be visited upon those who by word, deed or contract >shall hold them in thrall, particularly on trains for there will be a >great wailing and a gnashing of teeth. > >And when they return, the fatted calf will be slain and a rejoicing will >be heard throughout the land. Apportionment will also be made for those >that will not partake of the lamb nor the cow, nor of any cloven hooved >beast, and who will eat only lentils and other brown things, for such >strangenesses are also signs of the end times. > --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From nick at NETPHD.NET Tue Aug 21 08:08:41 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:08:41 -0400 Subject: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Is it something in the water that\'s making all these old BOC-L > ancients > come back to the fold????? Now is the time, the Old Gods return Exactly when the List was not expecting it. . . ??? --Nick From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Tue Aug 21 08:13:09 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moongum) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:13:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond help! Message-ID: Definitely "New River Head" (1991). Avoid "Miasma" (1987). ----------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 01:55:23 +0400, Alice wrote: >Hello! > > >Please tell me what is the best Bevis Frond album to start to know his >music? > >thanks, >Alice From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 21 09:15:22 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 07:15:22 -0600 Subject: HMV Oxford Street Message-ID: <<*I've got # 10. Anyone else? MarkL*>> 50/500- it just looks right . Mike "silly personal attack useless content jibber jabberer, hey wait! that WAS a personal attack" Coleman (it's an awful lot of OFF posts about flashing lights and those "other" Pied Pipers victims lately) I'm just kidding Keith- Red Shift is still Red- and yours when will Dallas be on the map? From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Aug 21 08:32:33 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:32:33 +0800 Subject: the dreaded worm.... Message-ID: Hello everyone We're sorry to say that last night we were infected by the Sirc Worm 32 Virus through an email attachment. It's one of the nasty little buggers that attaches itself and then can send itself off to everyone on your address book. To protect your system - just in case this nasty little bug made it's way to your computer - please go to the following web site and read the information and download the file to repair any damage. One thing to remember when fixing the problem - your Auto Detect on your Virus scan must be disabled - but you will read that. http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/FixSirc.com Cheers Bill & Cynthia From robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK Tue Aug 21 08:24:31 2001 From: robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK (Stuckey, Robert) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:24:31 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind all-nighter '91-ish, busker question. Message-ID: Here's a question I've meant to ask for ages. At the all-nighter in '91 (may have been '90) at Brixton Academy, there was busker playing guitar outside the gig using an amp on a shopping trolley powered by a car battery. Anyway, at the end of Hawkwind's set (may have been a 2nd set that evening), Hawkwind finished with a lot of sounds and noise which evolved into the very same busker being left on stage still with the shopping trolley amp playing away on his own. Me and a friend (hi Jas!) were dancing like mad and didn't even notice the change from band to busker until we looked up. Does anyone know who that busker was? Was he a real busker? Or was he a former band member in disguise? We were new to the Hawk scene at the time so wouldn't have recognised a previous member. cheers - Rob From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Tue Aug 21 08:37:33 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:37:33 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind all-nighter '91-ish, busker question. Message-ID: I know him: his name's Rory and somewhere I have a URL for his Web site (the Invisible Band). He is a real busker and isn't a former band member. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuckey, Robert" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:24 PM Subject: Hawkwind all-nighter '91-ish, busker question. > Here's a question I've meant to ask for ages. At the > all-nighter in '91 (may have been '90) at Brixton Academy, > there was busker playing guitar outside the gig using an > amp on a shopping trolley powered by a car battery. > > Anyway, at the end of Hawkwind's set (may have been a 2nd > set that evening), Hawkwind finished with a lot of sounds > and noise which evolved into the very same busker being > left on stage still with the shopping trolley amp playing > away on his own. > > Me and a friend (hi Jas!) were dancing like mad and > didn't even notice the change from band to busker until we > looked up. Does anyone know who that busker was? Was he a > real busker? Or was he a former band member in disguise? > > We were new to the Hawk scene at the time so wouldn't > have recognised a previous member. > > cheers - Rob From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Tue Aug 21 09:00:49 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:00:49 -0400 Subject: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: <20010821141821.G70611-100000@obsd.xoboi.com> Message-ID: Longer than that. I first signed on in 1989, I think, and it was active long before that... Great to see some other old phartz still active here and for the warm welcome back. As for me, I think I fell off of here when I changed jobs about three years ago. Instead of getting beeped at oh-dark-30 to drive 100+ miles to go fix a busted computer, I sit in front of my (other) PC, answer the phone and help sell enterprise-class storage software. So, no, Guido, I don't frequent Hooters anywhere near the frequency that I used to, now that I have a more predictable job (good and bad thing)... Kinda lost interest in BOC-HW and delved deeply into electronic music for a good while (I co-moderate the beyond_em mailing list on yahoogroups, in case anyone is interested, get with me offline). My sons bought me the first four remastered BOC CD's for my 45th birthday (I did say I was an old phart) which did renew my interest in the band and, surprisingly, caught their interest in BOC. My biggest complaint with the new BOC has to be the quality of the lyrics and where in the hell are the keyboards?!? Picked up a few new HW CD's (archive stuff, mostly) and I guess the pull to rejoin the list became too strong, so here I am... Still into the Ozrics, although they have become fairly predictable from album to album (the most interesting works that they "released" lately has been all of the 60+ tracks of material that found its' way onto the Internet). Anyhoo, it is great to be back and I hope that you all can point me to some great new sounds (not that I have the coin to buy any right now, not with major home renovations and the stock market being in the crapper :-( ). NP: Radio Massacre International / Knutsford In May (great live recording from Jodrell Bank). Ship > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Niko Makila > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 7:21 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here > before...) > > > On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, bart wrote: > > > I guess its some subconscious urge to congregate, maybe in > celebration (?) of > > the list's first decade... > > It must be 10 years by now ... Steve ? > > I'd put my bet on 11 years. Hmm... there was no celebration. How > about making a ``20 years of BOC-L'' T-Shirt? If we start now, it > could be ready in time. > > Anyway, welcome back Guido and Craig! > > //niko From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Aug 21 09:40:04 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:40:04 -0400 Subject: HW: Canterbury Message-ID: My turn: woulda been Sunday night, but my mail went up the spout >8{(> What a wonderful place for an outdoor all-dayer - apart from the "Magical Mystery Tour" signposting... and for me, even the on/off rain didn't spoil things too much, it never really got cold, and the ground was well drained. On with the show: Josiah - know nothing about these guys, but they were pretty good, though I think slightly nervous; my guess is that this was probably the biggest show they'd ever done. "Stoner rock" I guess, definitely shades of Sabbaff/Budgie et. al. circa 1971 with everything turned up to 11 and distorting in mightily fine style. I'd see 'em again. Hamsters - what a hoot, I'd only heard their live "Hendrix" CD before, so I knew that they were good: they were way better than good. The JH covers were very well done, including a truly dive-bombing "Star Spangled Banner", the straight R&B/r'n'r stuff done with panache, and a good party trick in the closing "Sharp-Dressed Man" with them all swapping instruments... If you haven't seen them yet, do so, they must be somewhere near you soon 'coz they're never off the road!! Osibisa - by now, I'm well & truly back in the '70s. They were pretty much as I remember them from way back - the perfect band for teatime. Bouncy and exuberant and doing their best to bring out a little sunshine... Ghana comes to Kent! Caravan - I was a little surprised that somebody dismissed these guys as "AOR": I know I'm a bit of an old geezer, and I HAVE been listening to Caravan on and off for about 30 years, but to me they sound like nobody else, and certainly don't go anywhere near the kind of "rock-lite" clich?s that the term usually implies. For me, it was a storming set from perhaps the most "English" band of them all (the Vaughan Williams' of prog?). Was quite impressed by the new(?) guitarist Doug Boyle and his tasteful "shredding" that let Pye Hastings get on with showing that he's probably the most under-appreciated rhythm guitarist of all. By the time they got to the end of "Nine Feet Underground" I was about nine feet above ground!!! Nice encore of the splendidly silly "Golf Girl" with a guest vocal by it's writer, Richard Sinclair, and Dave Sinclair was joined at the keyboards by Jan Schelhaas, who'd played in the band for a while in th '70s. Top stuff. {End fan-boy rant} Porcupine Tree - well, I really tried to like these guys, having been told many times by others in these here parts how good they were, but... Yes, they were technically capable, and there was nothing actually "bad" about them, but I thought that they exemplified the worst pretentious excesses that gave "prog" a bad name, and Steve Wilson(?) seems to be so far up his own fundament that he's in danger of choking on his own hair and getting his specs wrapped round his tonsils: all in all, too precious by half... Hawkwind - well, I think everybodys coveredthe ground pretty well on this. Definitely the Hawks with their knuckle-dusters on, but great fun. Shame that Simon wasn't clearer in the mix until AFTER "Spiral Galaxy"... I'm past the stage of saying "best" or "worst" etc. but I certainly enjoyed it a lot; though it may have confirmed some parties' fears about the return of Huw. B*ll*x to all that - the band were rockin' it up in fine style. 'Nuff said. A great day, and helped along very nicely by Arthur Brown's MC routines, long may he burn *G* More than 2d worth there... ChrisW (Significantly poorer, but richer in CDs) From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Tue Aug 21 10:21:52 2001 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:21:52 -0500 Subject: off: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) Message-ID: Welcome back Craig and a belated welcome back to you Guido! Craig, the first message I received from boc-l was one from you that contained the "Your Captain is Dead" ascii sig., way cool. Whats next? Martyn rejoining to declare Bob's still saying "she moans her mothers name" in Spirit of the Age? Or maybe Ranjit announcing he has the Weird 106 CD in stock. > Anyhoo, it is great to be back and I hope that you all can > point me to some great new sounds Try the latest one from Mr Quimbly's Beard. -- Doug Bates From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Tue Aug 21 10:51:05 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:51:05 -0400 Subject: Canterbury In-Reply-To: <200108211340.JAA17429@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Chris sez... CHOMP! > > Osibisa - by now, I'm well & truly back in the '70s. They were > pretty much > as I remember them from way back - the perfect band for teatime. Bouncy > and exuberant and doing their best to bring out a little sunshine... Ghana > comes to Kent! I was very fond of this band back in the early '70's, having first heard them in a disco in Ankara, Turkey. The fact that the first two LP covers were done by Roger Dean might have also had something to do with it. Also enjoyed their contribution to Uriah Heeps' LOOK AT YOURSELF title track (three percussionist guested). Found a little classic fun cover tune on Napster by them a few months ago, "The Coffee Song", also covered by Stan Ridgway on his hard-to-find covers CD, "The Way I Feel Today". Didn't know that they were still active... > Porcupine Tree - well, I really tried to like these guys, having been told > many times by others in these here parts how good they were, but... Yes, > they were technically capable, and there was nothing actually "bad" about > them, but I thought that they exemplified the worst pretentious excesses > that gave "prog" a bad name, and Steve Wilson(?) seems to be so far up his > own fundament that he's in danger of choking on his own hair and getting > his specs wrapped round his tonsils: all in all, too precious by half... > I think that the key word here is "were". PT _was_ good, up until STUPID DREAM. I have tried and tried to like that release and LIGHTBULB SUN, but they just don't have the appeal that the classic PT releases have. Like Chris said, the band is technically competent and there is nothing really bad about them, but the creative weirdness and spark is gone, replaced by an AOR desire for a "hit". All the best luck to Steven Wilson and crew, but I think that I have spent my last dime on them... (Richard Barbieri is an excellent keyboardist; check out his work with the band Japan, especially the first one, ADOLESCENT SEX. A little punky and if you have never heard David Sylvan's vocals from that period, you will be shocked at the difference, but highly recommended...) Ship From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Tue Aug 21 11:03:03 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:03:03 -0400 Subject: First post (well, not really, been here before...) Message-ID: >> Is it something in the water that\'s making all these old BOC-L >> ancients >> come back to the fold????? > >Now is the time, the Old Gods return > >Exactly when the List was not expecting it. . . ??? You took the words right out of my mouth... *smirk* Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Tue Aug 21 11:19:41 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:19:41 -0400 Subject: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow, Doug, that was YEARS ago, when I was posting from my old UNIX mini at work! I have to be more professional these days, dangit... Still, for old times sake... "aTTeNTioN, TeCHNiCiaNS oF SPaCeSHiP eaRTH! THiS iS YouR CaPTaiN SPeaKiNG! YouR CaPTaiN iS DeaD!" Man, it would be nice to see Ranjit back in business (he is still out of it, right? The last time I checked www.progtron.com it was dead and didn't even come up with the "fight the good fight" message...) Ship (or SHiP) > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Doug Bates > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 10:22 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: off: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been > here before...) > > > Welcome back Craig and a belated welcome back to you Guido! > > Craig, the first message I received from boc-l was one from you > that contained the "Your Captain is Dead" ascii sig., way cool. > > Whats next? Martyn rejoining to declare Bob's still saying "she > moans her mothers name" in Spirit of the Age? Or maybe Ranjit > announcing he has the Weird 106 CD in stock. > > > Anyhoo, it is great to be back and I hope that you all can > > point me to some great new sounds > > Try the latest one from Mr Quimbly's Beard. > > -- > Doug Bates From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Tue Aug 21 11:21:44 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:21:44 -0400 Subject: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: <200108211503.LAA02546@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: But, what does it say about when the "Old Phartz" return??? :-) Ship > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Alex S. Garcia > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:03 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) > > > >> Is it something in the water that\'s making all these old BOC-L > >> ancients > >> come back to the fold????? > > > >Now is the time, the Old Gods return > > > >Exactly when the List was not expecting it. . . ??? > > You took the words right out of my mouth... *smirk* > > > > Alex. > > --------------------------------------------------- > http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm > Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] > http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] > Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net > --------------------------------------------------- > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 21 13:56:59 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:56:59 +0100 Subject: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) Message-ID: two things then: 1) If you want a set of free CD Services review catalogues and the brand new update out this week,then mail me your name and address 2) Radio Massacre Intl are on CD Services' Centaur label, so perhaps yuo are an exisiting customer? Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Shipley" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 2:00 PM Subject: Re: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) > Anyhoo, it is great to be back and I hope that you all can point me to some > great new sounds (not that I have the coin to buy any right now, not with > major home renovations and the stock market being in the crapper :-( ). > > NP: Radio Massacre International / Knutsford In May (great live recording > from Jodrell Bank). > > Ship > From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Aug 21 14:01:17 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:01:17 +0100 Subject: OFF: Canterbury In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Craig Shipley wrote: > I think that the key word here is "were". PT _was_ good, up until STUPID > DREAM. I have tried and tried to like that release and LIGHTBULB SUN, but > they just don't have the appeal that the classic PT releases have. Like They are, indeed, too poppy. However, even the worst tracks are better live - live, they still attempt to rock, live they still play for their fans. Consider the difference between Coma Divine - does exactly what it says on the tin - and Signify, which isn't quite up to the same standards, although still brilliant. The difference now is merely magnified hugely. > All the best luck to Steven Wilson and crew, but I > think that I have spent my last dime on them... Which is a shame, especially given how many other people you've either directly or indirectly brought to appreciate them. (Including me, I'm told, as I was introduced to them by people who'd been introduced to them by Jon Jarrett (now my fiance) who went to his first PT gig on your advice) Kirsten -- Kirsten Procter ghoti NP: Janis Joplin - In Concert nina mashine fedha From spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM Tue Aug 21 15:02:05 2001 From: spacewreck2001 at YAHOO.COM (Space Wreck) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:02:05 -0700 Subject: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 45, wow, Craig, you're an even older phart than I realized! :) Welcome back! I remember that intriguing sig, too - long before I had ever heard Hawkwind. That, plus some comments on alt.music.progressive from a guy who had a train drawn in ASCII art in his sig (Bob Netherton, or something close to that?), led me to try out Hawkwind. Mike Borella sent me a tape. I bought a bunch of Ken Alexander's old HW CDs when he was cleaning house. Ken turned me onto BOC-L, and told me that it was all Steve Swann's fault. Ken reviewed all the HW CDs that Ranjit Padmanabhan had in his Progtron catalog. I still have all the Progtron email catalogs. I still recall trying to find the Hawkwind song with that lyric using my Mosaic browser on a Sun 3/60 workstation, before the dawn of search engines. Ahh, good times, good times... MWood --- Craig Shipley wrote: > Wow, Doug, that was YEARS ago, when I was posting from my old UNIX mini > at > work! I have to be more professional these days, dangit... > > Still, for old times sake... > > "aTTeNTioN, TeCHNiCiaNS oF SPaCeSHiP eaRTH! THiS iS YouR CaPTaiN > SPeaKiNG! > YouR CaPTaiN iS DeaD!" > > Man, it would be nice to see Ranjit back in business (he is still out of > it, > right? The last time I checked www.progtron.com it was dead and didn't > even > come up with the "fight the good fight" message...) > > Ship (or SHiP) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Doug Bates > > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 10:22 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: off: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been > > here before...) > > > > > > Welcome back Craig and a belated welcome back to you Guido! > > > > Craig, the first message I received from boc-l was one from you > > that contained the "Your Captain is Dead" ascii sig., way cool. > > > > Whats next? Martyn rejoining to declare Bob's still saying "she > > moans her mothers name" in Spirit of the Age? Or maybe Ranjit > > announcing he has the Weird 106 CD in stock. > > > > > Anyhoo, it is great to be back and I hope that you all can > > > point me to some great new sounds > > > > Try the latest one from Mr Quimbly's Beard. > > > > -- > > Doug Bates __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Aug 21 15:57:20 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:57:20 +0100 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: I have a feeling we are all misinformed: after seeing Mr Kilmister on a recent late night show, the violin-wielding "Lemmy" in question looks a) too clean b) too small-jawed c) not warty enough and d) I don't think the real Lemme Kilmister is the line-dancing type! (see cowboy hat). Bernard Manning doing the dishes and nice Daleks I can believe but that is NOT the real Lemmy. I believe it is a cunning body-double. Some years ago I heard of a roady (co-incidentally known as "Fast Eddy") who looks so much like Lemmy that after repeated requests he started signing Lemmy's autograph when asked, in order to get over-enthusiastic fans off of his back. I think it is he and not the diesel-drinking steel-throated fish-looking singing bass murderer (ie killing with his four-stringed Rickenbacker, not murdering bass lines!). If anyone has any further info, I would be interested. Neil Ward wrote: > So, Keith, you admit to watching 'Coronation Street' then do you??? > > I presume this is simply to worship the spirits of the one known as > Khenbaaarloooooo, and not because you are an incurable soap fan. > > Neil. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:16 PM > Subject: HW: What The... > > There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between Coronation > Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like Lawrence > Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically about > his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section playing > on the soundtrack. > > Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. > > No joke. From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Aug 21 16:02:04 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:02:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: Skynyrd/Ed King Message-ID: Just a note: I was only about 13/14 when their plane went down but I witnessed their last tour (Newcastle City Hall). I looked sooooo uncool in a "nice" blue shirt and neat jeans but left with ears ringing (nearly got knocked down) and "Free Bird" echoing through my head. I've never bin the same since!!!!! Har har har har haaaaaarggggh!!! Billy The Monster wrote: > Hey guys. > > I just wanted to say thanks very much for that, I enjoyed it immensly... > While I never personally dug into them originally, mainly as I was only > like 12 when the plane crashed, in retrospect they were a bunch of > characters for sure who made REAL music, and didn't hate the Neil Young God > after all..... > > I personally can't adjust to the little brother singing, at least from > what I have seen on TV, doing Ronnie's stuff, although their own material > may be fantastic,,,, I also miss seeing Allen Collins who seemed like > somebody I'd like to know.... > > Admirable about Artimus, and his stance of allegiance,,,,,, > > They have a guy from Blackfoot huh?, that was another fairly good band > wasn't it??? even though I don't know them either, but remember an older > brother of a friend having some of their records, and digging it.....didn't > they do that "Train Train" song??....super fantastic whoever did (imho)..... > > and last night, the resident man himself, Doug P, I think, was curious who > the Strawberry Alarm C singer was on "Incense", and bumped into Ed's > webpage(s), and was kind to forward it.... > > When I saw Ed on the first album cover that I have as a result of an old > friend leaving me his vinyl collection, recently, and saw what he was > credited with, a bell went off of- "this man has major significance" > > Thanks VERY much again, I enjoyed it....and it IS a terrible shame about > Leon as well, he also seemed very cool, person wise..... > > http://www.soft.net.uk/stevehoare/edking1.htm > > m c From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Tue Aug 21 18:23:28 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:23:28 -0400 Subject: HW: 80's 'metal', HLL rejoining Message-ID: I'm a bit late on this but the talk of Huw's rejoining and the 80's 'metal' sound made me want to bring this up - I don't think anyone has ever said this and maybe that means that I am way off base here, but the RCA albums always sounded to me not so much like 80's metal, as like a rock band that was using elements of 'industrial' music to explore (strange) new dimensions of sound. Several new elements were cropping up on these 3 albums - mechanical rhythms, heavy use of (digital) synths, synth-based songs (as opposed to instrumentals), non-standard (even 'experimental') song structures, the overall metallic sound of the production, and (especially) the use of samples - all were, or would soon become, tropes of industrial music once it moved beyond the handful of originators and became a full-fledged 'genre'. A similar thing happened in the 90's with IITBOTFTBD, which used elements of 'techno/electronica/etc' within the context of a rock band, though there the band was behind the curve instead of ahead - influenced by other artists that they were in contact with instead of experimenting with producing new sounds with new tools (and possibly at least in part trying to compensate for a somewhat smaller collective skill-set than had been available in the past - and NO, I'm not knocking ANY of the members of early 80's HW - that's just my sort-of objective opinion of their technical prowess). 80's live material, of course, was a different story - my own pet peeve about the period is not that it sounded too 'metal' but that too often the band played everything just a bit too FAST. One of my favorite 80s tracks is 'Sleep of a 1000 Tears' on CotBS - if you compare the studio track with the one on Live Chronicles, the live version sounds rushed, even sloppy - DB's guitar slurs instead of clearly articulating its phrases. This is pretty much true for EVERY song throughout the 80s (until 89) and covered various line-ups, so its hard to place the blame for this anywhere except on the group as a whole - they apparently just decided that they wanted to play everything fast. I also think Huw's contributions during this period are a big plus. Whenever there was a solid ground on which he could build, Huw did an excellent job of adding a melodic element to the underlying rhythms, in a way a bit like what Simon House almost always does, except that my own opinion is that Simon is better at integrating his contribution into the overall sound while Huw's leads do tend to sit on top of the sound a bit. Examples of Huw (and Hawkwind) high points would include Shot Down in the Night, Motorway City, Living On a Knife Edge, Arrival in Utopia, and Sleep of a 1000 Tears. None of these tracks would work as well w/o Huw's lead, not even MC (listen to the Family Tree version - good but not up to the level of any of the later versions). On the other hand, when re-working an older tune, things didn't always pan out so well - I was never completely convinced by what Huw did with Brainstorm for example - but then again, I wasn't completely convinced by what the band as a whole did with Brainstorm during this period either. With the current touring (and hopefully recording) lineup, I see that apparently Huw and Simon are playing together for what is probably the first time (did they appear on stage together for the Hawkestra?). As they are possibly the 2 best technical players to grace the ranks of Hawkwind (barring Ginger Baker) I can't wait to see what the band will produce in a piece specifically written for a lineup featuring both their talents, rather than an existing 'retro-fitted' song. I think this has great potential to be something new and interesting for Hawkwind - although I have wet dreams of 'High Tide'-like jams, I don't think Huw's style lends itself well to that approach, but I'd be happy to hear them trading leads or better yet playing simultaneous/intertwined leads. I would just hope that Simon is not relegated to providing background 'color' - I want to hear him up front where he belongs. Stephan From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 21 18:48:36 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 23:48:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: Canterbury Message-ID: never say never - the next album is a live double apparently.................. oh, and for Hawkwind and Gong fans, time to get that DVD player this Xmas................. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirsten Procter" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Canterbury Consider the difference between Coma Divine - does exactly > what it says on the tin - and Signify, which isn't quite up to the same > standards, although still brilliant. The difference now is merely > magnified hugely. >================================ > > All the best luck to Steven Wilson and crew, but I > > think that I have spent my last dime on them... > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 21 19:32:40 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:32:40 -0600 Subject: Oranger/ SR ideas In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20010821222328.006fcf44@pop.pipeline.com> Message-ID: Wots this??? just stumbled across it- http://www.oranger.net/hear/mercury.html it's not a mutilated UFO victim, nothing THAT good. m From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Tue Aug 21 19:41:14 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:41:14 -0400 Subject: Oranger/ SR ideas Message-ID: ...and after having been stolen from,sank back into the oblivion from whence they came... tim mike c wrote: > > Wots this??? just stumbled across it- > > http://www.oranger.net/hear/mercury.html > > it's not a mutilated UFO victim, nothing THAT good. > m From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Aug 21 20:14:18 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:14:18 -0400 Subject: HW: Oranger/ SR ideas Message-ID: Man, the things you come up with when you type "Hawkwind" into a search engine! On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:32:40 -0600, mike c wrote: > Wots this??? just stumbled across it- > >http://www.oranger.net/hear/mercury.html "Purists argue that, without Lindsay, Mercury was not a pure Oranger release, but it became the basis for the entire Space Rock movement of the early 70's. It's use of Moog synthesizers (often played on Mercury by Moog himself) and guitar feedback were as unsettling as they were beautiful. Stanley Kubrick, having just released 2001, almost pulled his film from release to rescore it with tracks from Mercury. Members of Hawkwind settled out of court for stealing ideas from Mercury for use on their classic Space Ritual LP." It's obviously a joke, since Oranger are a current local (San Francisco) band ... check out their "live dates" page (I'll add that many of those bills were with truly AWFUL, WRETCHED bands that SUCK). Never actually seen/heard them ... nor did I check their website to see if they have anymore fake albums like that listed ... (Oh yeah - and Bob Moog never played on *anybody's* album or soundtrack 'cause he's not a musician!) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Tue Aug 21 20:42:10 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:42:10 -0400 Subject: OFF: Canterbury In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kirsten sez... > On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Craig Shipley wrote: > > > > All the best luck to Steven Wilson and crew, but I > > think that I have spent my last dime on them... > > Which is a shame, especially given how many other people you've either > directly or indirectly brought to appreciate them. (Including me, I'm > told, as I was introduced to them by people who'd been introduced to > them by Jon Jarrett (now my fiance) who went to his first PT gig on > your advice) > > Kirsten Wow, I'm humbled and impressed to think that I had that kind of good influence on people, especially since I did not or have not had the chance to see PT at all!! Guess I better watch what I say ;-). Thank you very much for the kind words, Kirsten, and all the best to you and Jon on your up-coming marriage. May it be a happy and successful one (like mine!) NP: Hawkwind / Love In Space CD2 Ship From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Aug 21 20:43:48 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:43:48 -0400 Subject: HW: Oranger/ SR ideas In-Reply-To: <200108220014.UAA21546@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Doug Pearson wrote: => It's obviously a joke, since Oranger are a current local (San Francisco) => band ... check out their "live dates" page (I'll add that many of those => bills were with truly AWFUL, WRETCHED bands that SUCK). Never actually => seen/heard them ... nor did I check their website to see if they have => anymore fake albums like that listed ... You could also add the fact that the band appears to have formed in 1995(?) according to interviews on their own WWW site. Of course, this doesn't necessarily preclude the possibility that they travelled back in time and started the entire space rock movement of the 1970s... :-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Tue Aug 21 22:01:36 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:01:36 -0600 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: There are plenty of pictures with Lemmy wearing that type of hat. I think it's from his collection -- doesn't it look like an army type hat from some era? And his warts are on the side of his face that the violin would obscure. Actually, if he wanted to hide those warts and be a true teen idol, he should have picked up the violin instead of the guitar. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: fatrat To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: Re: HW: What The... > I have a feeling we are all misinformed: after seeing Mr Kilmister on a recent > late night show, the violin-wielding "Lemmy" in question looks a) too clean b) > too small-jawed c) not warty enough and d) I don't think the real Lemme > Kilmister is the line-dancing type! (see cowboy hat). Bernard Manning doing the > dishes and nice Daleks I can believe but that is NOT the real Lemmy. I believe > it is a cunning body-double. Some years ago I heard of a roady (co-incidentally > known as "Fast Eddy") who looks so much like Lemmy that after repeated requests > he started signing Lemmy's autograph when asked, in order to get > over-enthusiastic fans off of his back. I think it is he and not the > diesel-drinking steel-throated fish-looking singing bass murderer (ie killing > with his four-stringed Rickenbacker, not murdering bass lines!). If anyone has > any further info, I would be interested. > > Neil Ward wrote: > > > So, Keith, you admit to watching 'Coronation Street' then do you??? > > > > I presume this is simply to worship the spirits of the one known as > > Khenbaaarloooooo, and not because you are an incurable soap fan. > > > > Neil. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:16 PM > > Subject: HW: What The... > > > > There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between Coronation > > Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like Lawrence > > Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically about > > his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section playing > > on the soundtrack. > > > > Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. > > > > No joke. From nycademon at HOME.COM Tue Aug 21 23:02:05 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:02:05 -0600 Subject: HW: What The... In-Reply-To: <005501c12aae$724b5420$e765a58e@pavilion> Message-ID: Yeah, that'd cover up the warts (cocoa puffs), but what about his TEETH? :-) Guido -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of BL Young Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:02 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: What The... There are plenty of pictures with Lemmy wearing that type of hat. I think it's from his collection -- doesn't it look like an army type hat from some era? And his warts are on the side of his face that the violin would obscure. Actually, if he wanted to hide those warts and be a true teen idol, he should have picked up the violin instead of the guitar. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: fatrat To: Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: Re: HW: What The... > I have a feeling we are all misinformed: after seeing Mr Kilmister on a recent > late night show, the violin-wielding "Lemmy" in question looks a) too clean b) > too small-jawed c) not warty enough and d) I don't think the real Lemme > Kilmister is the line-dancing type! (see cowboy hat). Bernard Manning doing the > dishes and nice Daleks I can believe but that is NOT the real Lemmy. I believe > it is a cunning body-double. Some years ago I heard of a roady (co-incidentally > known as "Fast Eddy") who looks so much like Lemmy that after repeated requests > he started signing Lemmy's autograph when asked, in order to get > over-enthusiastic fans off of his back. I think it is he and not the > diesel-drinking steel-throated fish-looking singing bass murderer (ie killing > with his four-stringed Rickenbacker, not murdering bass lines!). If anyone has > any further info, I would be interested. > > Neil Ward wrote: > > > So, Keith, you admit to watching 'Coronation Street' then do you??? > > > > I presume this is simply to worship the spirits of the one known as > > Khenbaaarloooooo, and not because you are an incurable soap fan. > > > > Neil. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:16 PM > > Subject: HW: What The... > > > > There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between Coronation > > Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like Lawrence > > Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically about > > his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section playing > > on the soundtrack. > > > > Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. > > > > No joke. From senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU Tue Aug 21 23:14:52 2001 From: senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU (Bill Bradley) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:14:52 -0700 Subject: HW: What The... In-Reply-To: from "Guido N. Vacano" at "Aug 21, 2001 09:02:05 pm" Message-ID: If anyone would like to watch the commercial in question, I've put a copy up at marble.sru.edu/~william.bradley/kitkat.rm There's about 12 seconds of a Citroen commercial leading in. If you want to keep a copy, grab it quick as that account is due to vaporize soon. Another old timer (1990-) checking in, Bill > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of BL Young > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:02 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: What The... > > > There are plenty of pictures with Lemmy wearing that type of hat. I think > it's from his collection -- doesn't it look like an army type hat from some > era? > > And his warts are on the side of his face that the violin would obscure. > Actually, if he wanted to hide those warts and be a true teen idol, he > should have picked up the violin instead of the guitar. > > Bryan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: fatrat > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:57 PM > Subject: Re: HW: What The... > > > > I have a feeling we are all misinformed: after seeing Mr Kilmister on a > recent > > late night show, the violin-wielding "Lemmy" in question looks a) too > clean b) > > too small-jawed c) not warty enough and d) I don't think the real Lemme > > Kilmister is the line-dancing type! (see cowboy hat). Bernard Manning > doing the > > dishes and nice Daleks I can believe but that is NOT the real Lemmy. I > believe > > it is a cunning body-double. Some years ago I heard of a roady > (co-incidentally > > known as "Fast Eddy") who looks so much like Lemmy that after repeated > requests > > he started signing Lemmy's autograph when asked, in order to get > > over-enthusiastic fans off of his back. I think it is he and not the > > diesel-drinking steel-throated fish-looking singing bass murderer (ie > killing > > with his four-stringed Rickenbacker, not murdering bass lines!). If anyone > has > > any further info, I would be interested. > > > > Neil Ward wrote: > > > > > So, Keith, you admit to watching 'Coronation Street' then do you??? > > > > > > I presume this is simply to worship the spirits of the one known as > > > Khenbaaarloooooo, and not because you are an incurable soap fan. > > > > > > Neil. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:16 PM > > > Subject: HW: What The... > > > > > > There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between > Coronation > > > Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like > Lawrence > > > Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically > about > > > his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section > playing > > > on the soundtrack. > > > > > > Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. > > > > > > No joke. > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Aug 22 04:37:36 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:37:36 +0100 Subject: HW: What The... In-Reply-To: <005501c12aae$724b5420$e765a58e@pavilion> Message-ID: > > > There are plenty of pictures with Lemmy wearing that type of hat. I think > it's from his collection -- doesn't it look like an army type hat > from some > era? > The recentish Q magazine "Cash For Questions" pics had him with that hat on. Having watched it a few times, I'm convinced. And somewhat off topic, the Liverpool accent voicing the new BP ads is Nigel Blackwell of Half Man Half Biscuit... Cheers, Rich. From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Aug 22 11:24:15 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:24:15 -0500 Subject: OFF: [INSPIRE] Wisdom Message-ID: Nice quote for the day: WISDOM Learning to shrug is the beginning of wisdom. - Sarah Ban Breathnach If you like today's quote, you can print it as an Instant Poster by clicking on: http://www.inspirelist.com/ma/082201wisdoma.htm From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 22 12:08:15 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:08:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: [INSPIRE] Wisdom In-Reply-To: Karen Kusic's message of Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:24:15 -0500 Message-ID: Karen Kusic writes: > Nice quote for the day: > > WISDOM > > Learning to shrug > is the beginning > of wisdom. > > - Sarah Ban Breathnach "Atlas Shrugged" - Ayn Rand From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Aug 22 12:12:23 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:12:23 -0500 Subject: OFF: [INSPIRE] Wisdom Message-ID: Good one M! M Holmes wrote: > "Atlas Shrugged" > > - Ayn Rand > > Karen Kusic writes: > > > Nice quote for the day: > > > > WISDOM > > > > Learning to shrug > > is the beginning > > of wisdom. > > > > - Sarah Ban Breathnach > From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Wed Aug 22 13:58:04 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:58:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: Robert Moog's (pronounced Moge) recorded works Message-ID: >(Oh yeah - and Bob Moog never played on *anybody's* album or >soundtrack 'cause he's not a musician!) He did however provide a spoken intro to the Klaus Schulze/Bill Laswell/Pete Namlook work 'Dark Side of the Moog 5 - Psychedelic Brunch Part I - VIII', even giving his e-mail address IIRC! Stephan From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Aug 22 14:13:31 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:13:31 -0400 Subject: OFF: [INSPIRE] Wisdom Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:08:15 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >"Atlas Shrugged" > > - Ayn Rand And how can that not be followed with: "Telemachus sneezed" - Atlanta Hope ? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Wed Aug 22 14:22:15 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:22:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: [INSPIRE] Wisdom In-Reply-To: <200108221813.OAA24236@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:08:15 +0100, M Holmes > wrote: > >"Atlas Shrugged" > > > > - Ayn Rand > > And how can that not be followed with: > > "Telemachus sneezed" > > - Atlanta Hope > > ? > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > "And the Devil, he farted..." -Frank Zappa "T*tties And Beer" >:-) Ship From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Aug 22 14:18:28 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:18:28 +0100 Subject: BOC: "Tales from the Psychic Wars" Message-ID: Hmm. Seems there's this two-disc set coming out on Burning Airlines - amazon.co.uk and cduniverse.com both list it. Seems unlikely to be Sony/CBS stuff, so my best guess is a dodgy old live tape, but you never know, might even be a good old live tape... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Aug 22 15:04:20 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:04:20 -0500 Subject: OFF: HowStuffWorks - Learn how Everything Works! Message-ID: http://www.howstuffworks.com/ From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed Aug 22 16:33:15 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:33:15 +0100 Subject: OT: Quark, Strangeness and Charm Message-ID: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1504000/1504267.stm Strange quarks have been created in large numbers for the first time. --- Kevin Perry The Mountain Grill http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Aug 22 16:35:27 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:35:27 -0400 Subject: OFF: Classical-music fans may have more brains In-Reply-To: <200108201905.PAA11985@listserv.spc.edu>; from jasret@MINDSPRING.COM on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 03:05:21PM -0400 Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 03:05:21PM -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: > Don't forget that Ramones music makes the heads of mice explode!!! So does HW ... but in a good way! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Aug 22 17:43:50 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:43:50 -0400 Subject: OFF: [INSPIRE] Wisdom Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:08:15 +0100, M Holmes wrote: > >"Atlas Shrugged" > > > > - Ayn Rand > > And how can that not be followed with: > > "Telemachus sneezed" > > - Atlanta Hope > > ? > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com gesundheit!! tim From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 22 18:27:00 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:27:00 +0100 Subject: BOC: "Tales from the Psychic Wars" Message-ID: I've got full track list, source etc if you need it and it's out Sept 10th and it's a double, supposedly ex quality and CD Services have it at ?13.99 offer price. Andy G (the other one) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gilham" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 7:18 PM Subject: BOC: "Tales from the Psychic Wars" > Hmm. Seems there's this two-disc set coming out on Burning Airlines - > amazon.co.uk and cduniverse.com both list it. Seems unlikely to be Sony/CBS > stuff, so my best guess is a dodgy old live tape, but you never know, might > even be a good old live tape... > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Aug 23 07:33:10 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 06:33:10 -0500 Subject: OFF: "Reefer Madness" - the musical Message-ID: http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0134/zimmer.php From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 23 10:40:03 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:40:03 +0100 Subject: Rare stuff on Ebay Message-ID: The Greek CD is up on Ebay, as is the very rare Italian Vinile magazine "Assassins of Allah" 7" single. FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Aug 23 13:38:49 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:38:49 -0600 Subject: Rare stuff on Ebay In-Reply-To: <200108231440.PAA19536@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <<*The Greek CD is up on Ebay, as is the very rare Italian Vinile magazine Assassins of Allah" 7" single.*>> FoFP The Greek CD is not really all that rare (it appears to me) and the one on Ebay has only got a VG cover- also- The Vinile is only ONE record of 2, and does NOT include the book that the singles came with- I am the current bidder on this item (I think I still am), but I only bid on it to secure it for a friend in Germany who I thought may want it (who was busy with Canterbury)-as its the silver one, like mine, and not the colored promo version did you know of the promo version? -I did not until recently (it appears to me that on the promo one side of one record is reddish, and the other blue) m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Aug 23 14:57:50 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:57:50 -0600 Subject: Rare stuff on Ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just looked at the silver version(s) of the Vinile 45(s), and apparently they are all "promos"??? so I wonder why my records are all silver both sides and my friends has colors on 1 side of each single m From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 23 14:52:08 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:52:08 +0100 Subject: Rare stuff on Ebay Message-ID: the mysteries of the universe, eh!!!!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Rare stuff on Ebay > Just looked at the silver version(s) of the Vinile 45(s), and apparently > they are all "promos"??? so I wonder why my records are all silver both > sides and my friends has colors on 1 side of each single > > m From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Aug 23 17:43:17 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 22:43:17 +0100 Subject: BOC: CotHM opinions reprise Message-ID: Dear All, I've had the album for a couple of months now and given it a fair bit of play, though maybe not as much as it's due because I got along with a clutch of very good albums and they have rather outshone it in terms of player time (Scorched Earth's _Fed To Your Head_, Tony Hill's _Inexactness_ and Clutch's _Pure Rock Fury_ being the chief offendors here), and what with the slew of opinions the presence of we few like myself who didn't rate it much at first, I thought I might have another crack at the thing in the light of better acquaintance. And it has in fact grown on me. I do really like `Now is the Time', lousy Shirley lyrics with all important ideas repeated at least once not withstanding. The opening riff saves it, anchors itself in your skull and won't leave. I'd have edited that and made it the single, nere mind `Pocket', might have stood out a bit more. `Pocket' I am occasionally seeing the point of, I think it's just not aimed at me; I'm very rarely in the mood to let it pick me up and bounce me about so it just skids past me without getting its hooks in. On the other hand, `I Just Like to be Bad' is still *awful*. Not only is the tune irritating and Eric sounding _winsome_ fer Chrissakes but the abysmally poor lyrics can't even maintain it to the end; not only do we get a weak caricature of a girl who doesn't get tied down and does her thing, which I can live with as a concept, but at the end without actually doing anything but tacking a throwaway line onto it she's turned into just another all-American cutie just looking for the right man to stay home and bake cookies for. Tchah. I wouldn't mind so much if this, like `You're Not the One', were intentionally ironic but it's not, is it? But anyway. Again, I recognise fully that the band has probably never played better since the original line-up. Everybody is really good (apart from Alan whom I only recognise in one organ part though some of the guitar must be him also; I see from the interview with Buck someone kindly posted a link too that he plays the lead on `Pocket' and has a guitar duel with Buck of sorts in `Here Comes That Feeling', so that's three parts we think he did on a whole album...), particularly Eric who turns out some of his best ever work I think; the best example being `One Step Ahead of the Devil' which to my mind has very few other merits apart from a certain amount of attack that isn't about much on this album. But Eric's giving it all he's got, makes it worth listening to. Danny and Buck and even Bobby are all also showing up well here. I just wish the material was better... To pick up a few of other people's points before I go on, I like Theo's point about being a kind of _Flat Out_ 2; there's a lot fo what sounds like Buck-pop kicking about and what startles me is that Eric wrote some of it. Lots of people are saying it's unfair to expect another _Secret Treaties_ and that's fine, the band doesn't work like that any more, you won't get that white-hot stuff all fused together again. I was hoping for another _Cultosaurus Erectus_ personally... (my fourth favourite album easily). At least this isn't actually any of BOC's other albums done again, which would actually be pretty disappointing I suppose. But my problem is still the production. As I said, it's perfect, almost... _too_ perfect. Important words like attack and edge that you couldn't leave out of any description of the early albums, hell, even out of a description of _Club Ninja_ (which though otherwise I do think it has nothing to recommend it apart from a couple of songs that might have been good if arranged differently or partially rewritten does at least grab you and growl in your face when it's not screaming for blood), are just not appropriate here. The problem I thus get is that it doesn't sound like a BOC record. If anything in terms of sound it strikes me like a tBS release, and I had the same initial problem with them in that they didn't to me have that kind of sonic magic, the fizz of the circular saw, the glint of the knife, the laughing aggression that a really good BOC tune should have. Now of course tBS aren't BOC and so I did my best to detune my ears until I was hearing the music not the space I wanted it to be in and though I still think the first two are a bit restrained, for obvious reasons, from _Box of Hammers_ on I love the stuff. But there has never been a shortage of decent songs with tBS. Here in fact there are some decent songs, even if there's no great ones, which HF has (I rate SYiB and HM as great, `Cold Gray Light of Dawn' as very good, a couple of others as good (`X-Ray Eyes', `Still Burnin'', maybe? Changes every time I play it, except that it's never `Live For Me'). That great one isn't on CotHM but `Now is the Time' is very good, I quite like `Here Comes That Feeling' and `Stone of Love', I also like `Eye of the Hurricane' and that one seems to grow on me with every play. `Pocket' as I say I occasionally get into the same room as but mostly it eludes me, that's fine, I recognise its merit; same with `Good to Feel Hungry' which is very odd to me but still clearly good if not directly appealing, you know what I mean? I don't like `Showtime' at all I do quite like `Dance on Stilts' but I don't rate it very highly as a song for some reason, and `I Just Like to Be Bad', well you saw my opinion already. So there's stuff here but it's hiding behind the polished leather and comfortable chairs; it should be coming out to get me. The other two BOC albums I really have trouble getting through, `Spectres' and `Mirrors' are again the ones where *that* sound is hard to hear, even though they do both have the great songs, and so while I like this album as a soft-rock one, it's pretty good stuff in that field, it isn't I think ever going to rate very high on my list of BOC albums. There, I think that says it all. Won't stop me playing it of course, whereas CN, tRBN and `Spectres' and `Mirrors' really don't get a lot of time in my stereo glad though I am that the latter two and maybe three at least exist. I see someone else has the same production problem with tRBN so someone maybe knows what I mean. Yours, Jon ObCD: Motorhead - _Motorhead_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Aug 23 17:55:58 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 22:55:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: <031301c0f77d$afa9fe20$0100007f@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Forgive me clearing out some old with the new here... On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > far from it - I like the idea of any of these bands attainign commercial > success - the more the merrier - I just don't think that it can happen to PT > simply because, no matter how hard Wilson and Delerium try to have it > otherwise,they are seen by the media as a prog-rock band, and therfore > suffer all the commercial pitfalls that such a tag entails - no matter how > many singles they put out,they won;t get radio one on their side. However, > they may get radio two (for USA readers the equivalent of a semi-serious > seventies/eighties station that still also can't get its feet out of the > '50's and '60's) to play things but that is far from the minds of labels and > group - they want to be 'now' and 'trendy' but as a PT fan, this just won't > work for this band. I suppose the same would apply to Hawkwind really. As to > Queens, well, since Jo Whiley made a single by them her record of the > week,they have been deemed radio friendly. Roll on someone finding Anathema. > The power of the UK DJ in all its glory. Well, yes, that's what it takes isn't it, except it has to be the right DJ. I mean, Mark Radcliffe's played both PT and HW before now but not at that kind of exposure. But, with the possible exception of `Four Chords' (Maybe `Hatesong'? I'm not sure) none of PT's singles are strong to stand that sort of air-play and mostly they don't bounce enough. `Four Chords' is too, dare I say it, psychedelic anyway, in a modern way not a Kulashaker way. `See Emily Play' also bombed. At least HMV round my way reliably gets some copies in now but they never restock once the first batch are gone and I can't believe there's the demand for it. I haven't yet heard the new tracks on _Recordings_; are they an augur of anything different? This `dark and experimental' sound we were supposed to be getting next? OIn fact, would anyone care to give me a review of it? (Annoying thing, is my housemate has a copy of it, but I haven't yet managed to borrow it from him to spin it. I had intended to follow this with a few thoughts on the Canterbury performance but all the messages I wanted to reply to involve other bands too. So I'll ust say I thought they were doing it competently and I duly remembered as I always do when seeing them live that I do in fact love this band, mopey-post-goth though Steven Wilson may be and bland though the new material is. In fact I rather like several parts of _Lightbulb Sun_ as I said a while back but they only did `Hatesong' of those, and not so well as it goes on record. But, when they finished, I didn't feel like I'd seen anything special. Just a day's work show from PT really. Next album being a double live sounds like the final nail in the coffin really. Where's the material? If it incorporates that little singles-hour slot they were doing I'll never want to play it. There is still a need for a decent `Radioactive Toy', by which I mean one that lasts about eight minutes, not 15 (just listen to the version on the first album and hear how much stretching it takes it to get to exactly 10.00) and a live `Voyage 34' is well overdue. Also an `Up the Downstair' maybe but I never think they've done that justice live. So what's to put on it? The versions of the new songs live aren't any better, they don't modify as much as they do the old stuff. You know, I just can't see the long-haul fans like myself eagerly digging in their pockets for it. Steven or his label have got to realise where their money comes from. It's not the pop market. IMO. Yours, Jon Jarrett P.S. Craig Shipley! Yes, she's right, if you hadn't told me to go to the gig in Bath they did with Gong and the Ozrics I would never have known who they were when they played Cambridge; have never bought their album and thus got onto the Freak Emporium mailing list, and never have played the stuff at myriad other people some four or five of whom bought nearly as much as I did. My contact with the Freak emporium is your fault! You've cost me hundreds of pounds Only Carl Anderson can reasonably claim more blame for my depleted finances than you! Welcome back to the list! Just before you signed off people were calling you `Pops' Shipley'; now equipped with a son of my own I feel obliged to ask how go you and yours? ObCD: High Tide - _Sea Shanties_/_High Tide_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Aug 23 19:37:39 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:37:39 -0500 Subject: OFF: sf worldcon in philadelphia Message-ID: Hey folks, Is anyone going to the science fiction worldcon in philadelphia next week and wish to meet up? (or any philadelphia listers want to get together?) Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Aug 23 20:39:15 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:39:15 EDT Subject: OFF: sf worldcon in philadelphia Message-ID: Arin, that's about 1/2 hour away from me. I can't read all the details for the program, because the text is so tiny on this screen. Do you have any idea if there will be any inclusion of: Dr. Who, Red Dwarf or Blakes 7 guests? and in that context, what would be the best days to go, it appears to be several days. Thanks bob In a message dated 8/23/2001 7:38:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU writes: > Hey folks, > > Is anyone going to the science fiction worldcon in philadelphia next week > and wish to meet up? > > (or any philadelphia listers want to get together?) > > Thanks, > > From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Thu Aug 23 20:55:33 2001 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:55:33 -0400 Subject: BOC: CotHM opinions reprise Message-ID: > And it has in fact grown on me. I do really like `Now is the >Time', lousy Shirley lyrics with all important ideas repeated at least >once not withstanding. The opening riff saves it, anchors itself in your >skull and won't leave. Oh, you mean "The old gods return"! It took me a while to figure out what song you meant... Duh. That's definitely a great track, though, I agree. >I'd have edited that and made it the single, nere >mind `Pocket', might have stood out a bit more. `Pocket' I am occasionally >seeing the point of, I think it's just not aimed at me; I'm very rarely in >the mood to let it pick me up and bounce me about so it just skids past me >without getting its hooks in. On the other hand, `I Just Like to be Bad' >is still *awful*. Neither of those two are doing anything for me. Nor "One step ahead of the Devil", actually, which is, I think, the one I dislike most. Just too noisy and standard-fare-ish for me, if you know what I mean. > To pick up a few of other people's points before I go on, I like >Theo's point about being a kind of _Flat Out_ 2; there's a lot fo what >sounds like Buck-pop kicking about I don't get that. Well, not completely. I mean, it seems to me that HF had _a lot_ more of Buck's poppish sounding material. OTOH, Cult... well, after careful consideration, it seems to me like Buck's stuff is simply better "integrated" into the BOC sound. What I mean is that up to now, you always had all these BOC songs, and then once in a while you'd have a Buck tune that would pop up and you would just _know_ it was Buck's right away. Now, however... you can still feel it, but it's in the atmosphere. I'm not sure how to describe it. It's like it's woven into the fabric of the album itself. Granted, not throughout, but it's like it's _finally_ become part of the BOC sound, getting mixed in with the rest. Am I making any sense?? >and what startles me is that Eric wrote >some of it. Not too surprising if you consider the above. It's all mixing together and becoming One :-) >Lots of people are saying it's unfair to expect another >_Secret Treaties_ and that's fine, the band doesn't work like that any >more, you won't get that white-hot stuff all fused together again. I was >hoping for another _Cultosaurus Erectus_ personally... (my fourth >favourite album easily). At least this isn't actually any of BOC's other >albums done again, which would actually be pretty disappointing I suppose. I agree. Besides, if I'm right on my diagnosis, and if this is an ongoing trend, I suspect it'll get less and less likely we'll ever see them attempt to re-do one of those old classics. Which is a good thing, IMHO. Repeating yourself can kill a band. They're still around. Personally, I'm hoping it lasts... > But my problem is still the production. As I said, it's perfect, >almost... _too_ perfect. Important words like attack and edge that you >couldn't leave out of any description of the early albums, hell, even out >of a description of _Club Ninja_ (which though otherwise I do think it has >nothing to recommend it apart from a couple of songs that might have been >good if arranged differently or partially rewritten does at least grab you >and growl in your face when it's not screaming for blood), are just not >appropriate here. The problem I thus get is that it doesn't sound like a >BOC record. Well, again, I think the band is evolving. And it might be unfair to make these kind of arguments. Besides, you can't blame the guys for using modern technology and trying to attain a better sounding quality! That's just nuts :-) Oh, and there's no such thing as "too" perfect. In my book, you can never achieve perfection. Only strive for it. And striving for perfection is a _good_ thing :-) >That great one isn't on CotHM I guess it's all in tastes. To me, that great one is there, "almost perfect" :-) "Out of the darkness," of course... Yeah, I know, I'm repeating myself. I just love it. It's even inspired me a story I have yet to write... not many songs do that for me. >`Eye >of the Hurricane' and that one seems to grow on me with every >play. That one has been growing on me quite a bit, too. Very interesting track. >and comfortable chairs; it should be coming out to get me. The other two >BOC albums I really have trouble getting through, `Spectres' and `Mirrors' OK, before I say what I'm going to say, a couple of disclaimers: 1) I'm not aiming this at you specifically, Jon - I've noticed the following in many other posts too. 2) I'm not trying to upset anyone, or start an argument, so please don't take this the wrong way :-) Alright. This being said... It seems to me that a lot of people just get too attached to some specific aspects of a band that they then try to see in all further works, these becoming their sole (or almost) criteria for deciding whether an album is good or not. Of course, you can do whatever you want *grin* but I find this somewhat sad, as it can prevent the listener from appreciating songs that might have, coming from another artist, been perceived as very good, maybe even amazingly so in some cases. But just because it's BOC (or another band, this can be applied to any) suddenly makes the piece poor, sloppy, bad, whatnot. I don't get it. Myself, I try to detach myself as much as possible from who plays on an album and to just listen to the songs and take them for what they are. I either like them or I don't, regardless of past achievements and/or offenses. Mind you, I'm not saying this because I like Spectres or Mirrors (and, in fact, I don't like Mirrors at all!) it's just something I've noticed on this list, as time & posts went by, and have been wondering about it. So there you go. Just my two cents. Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Aug 23 21:28:32 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 02:28:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 22 May 2001, Paul Mather wrote: > On Tue, 22 May 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > > => On the subject of Nik: what is the deal with "Nik's Space Ritual", "Past or > => Future", "Prophets Of Time" etc? Could anyone post comments on these > => albums... I'd like to hear them but I'm a bit too sceptical of the whole > => "Nik-rehashes-his-glorious-past...again" bit to just go out on a limb. > > Of those three, I'd rank them best to worst as follows: _Past or > Future_, _Nik's Space Ritual_, and _Prophets of Time_. > > I would say _Past or Future_ is pretty much essential and I unreservedly > recommend it. The _Space Ritual_ one is uneven, although it has some > standout moments like "D-Rider". _Prophets of Time_ is for Nik > kompletists, at least as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, it's not up to much. The P'Orridge poetry readings are worthwhile and the two or three electronic pieces which are basically Grenas, del Rio and Fox quite nice; of the actual Nikwerx however only `Stonehenge Decoded' lives up to its old glory and the two newish Nik pieces are very odd. But then, there's _Sphynx_ and although not everyone agrees with this I can't think of very much to reccomend that album beyond, firstly, the version of `The Weighig of Heart and Negative Confession' which is good and the original flute track at the end which is worth something to have. Nonetheless the original Sphynx album is *so* much better. I picked up a comp. on Dossier ages back called _Sonic Attack 2001_ from Selectadisc in London, which has a fair stab at best of Nikwind on it. I'd say get that and _Past or Future_ and then proceed with caution. It also has some Anubian Lights on and a couple of remixes of _Sphnyx_ tracks. Beware - these are quite good! Don't be fooled, the originals are still pants. Or so it seems to me. I shall now drop off the net again for I hope only a short while. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From wbrehm1 at HOME.COM Thu Aug 23 22:18:15 2001 From: wbrehm1 at HOME.COM (Will Brehm) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 22:18:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: sf worldcon in philadelphia Message-ID: I've been a lurker for quite some time on this list, but... I will be at worldcon. Probably wearing a Hawkwind or BOC t-shirt. (I'm in Baltimore, so it's only a 1-1/2 hour drive.) From sebastian at WELTON.DE Fri Aug 24 05:19:13 2001 From: sebastian at WELTON.DE (Sebastian Welton) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 05:19:13 -0400 Subject: Rare stuff on Ebay Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:40:03 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >The Greek CD is up on Ebay, as is the very rare Italian Vinile magazine >"Assassins of Allah" 7" single. > Is this Vinile rare? I picked mine up in a local record shop a few years ago and ever since then I've seen at least 4 copies in various shops (shrink wrapped with the book.) Maybe I should have bought them and sold them to gullible record buying members of the public. I shall start doing that now as my local CD emporium has some other Vinile offerings. Cheers Seb Sebastian Welton - sebastian at welton.de +------------------------------------+ www.welton.de *********** 0171 8880522 From mpainter at SOUNDOUT.CO.UK Fri Aug 24 06:23:35 2001 From: mpainter at SOUNDOUT.CO.UK (Mark Painter) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:23:35 +0100 Subject: HW UK Label Message-ID: Hi All I am trying to find the current UK label for Hawkwind and or Beduin to get some product to promote and give away on my Radio Show. Any Ideas? Mark From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Aug 24 09:55:15 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:55:15 -0400 Subject: HW UK Label Message-ID: Well, Hawkwind still seem to be on Voiceprint; as for Bedouin..... From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Aug 24 11:35:01 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:35:01 -0500 Subject: OFF: sf worldcon in philadelphia In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Bob Lennon wrote: :Subject: Re: OFF: sf worldcon in philadelphia : :Arin, :that's about 1/2 hour away from me. :I can't read all the details for the program, because the text is so tiny on :this screen. :Do you have any idea if there will be any inclusion of: :Dr. Who, :Red Dwarf or :Blakes 7 guests? :and in that context, what would be the best days to go, it appears to be :several days. :Thanks :bob : Bob, It isn't a visual media sf convention, but primarily for written sf. No media guests, I'm afraid. Just lots of writers, artists, editors and assorted other stuff. Best days to go: If you wish to be there for the dealer's room feeding frenzy: 8/30 If you just want to catch good programming and parties: 8/31 or 9/1 Note that it's kind of pricey for one-day fees: At-the-door membership rates for the full convention are: Adult $200; Child $50; Adult one-day rates: Thursday $50; Friday $65; Saturday $85; Sunday $80; Monday $35; Child one-day rates: $15. Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From soltanic at YAHOO.COM Fri Aug 24 14:09:23 2001 From: soltanic at YAHOO.COM (Allen Shaw) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:09:23 -0700 Subject: off:KING BLACK ACID on best band list Message-ID: Some one told me about a band list that you can vote for best local bands in Portland Oregon until August 29. KING BLACK ACID is currently at the number 7 position and looks like they are rocketing up the list. Looks like the voting is daily. You can vote. Read reviews about the band by clicking on their name. http://portland.citysearch.com/best/ballot/148 I image they are doing so well on this list as they are about to start playing live shows again next month in Portland. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Aug 24 14:31:24 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:31:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: On Fri, 24 Aug 2001 02:28:32 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Tue, 22 May 2001, Paul Mather wrote: >> _Prophets of Time_ is for Nik >> kompletists, at least as far as I'm concerned. > > Yeah, it's not up to much. The P'Orridge poetry readings are >worthwhile and the two or three electronic pieces which are basically >Grenas, del Rio and Fox quite nice; of the actual Nikwerx however only >`Stonehenge Decoded' lives up to its old glory and the two newish Nik >pieces are very odd. That would be "Stonehenge, Who Knows?" (I'm sure I've said this many times, but I'll say it again ...) That track alone justifies the purchase of 'Prophets of Time' for me, and it should for any Simon House fan. His violin work is OUTSTANDING on that one (no slight to Dead Fred Reeves, who did a fine job on the original), which is the main reason why it betters the original Inner City Unit version (as opposed to the rest of the album, on which all the other ICU covers don't come close to the originals [I can see the Judge gloating over that statement, I'm sure...]). But if it's on the Dossier comp that Jon referred to, you may as well pick that up over 'Prophets of Time' ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Aug 24 15:27:10 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 15:27:10 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 8/18 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck NOTE: I also recommend you stay tuned for Mizzen's program "Audio Alchemy", which airs every Saturday evening after mine, from 8-11pm PST...if you dare... 8/18 1.Mushroom-- title-track (Compared to What EP; Innerspace Records) 2.Faust-- "Meadow Meal" (ST'd; Collector's Choice Records) 3.Malloy-- "Hotel Devachan" (Naif; Stick it to the Man Records) 4.Thumbtack Smoothie-- "Now Since Then" (ElectricKitchenTableLand; Manic Obsessive Records) 5.Can-- "Pinch" (Ege Bamyasi; Mute/Spoon Records) 6.Defender-- "Orangutans and Orphanages" (CD-R) 7.Doldrums-- "Bert part 4"?? (Feng Shui; VHF Records) 8.Cul de Sac-- "Doldrums" (I Don't Want to Go to Bed; Thirsty Ear Records) 9.Nik Turner/Farflung-- "Vision of Infinity" (Transglobal Friends/Relations; Transparency Records) 10.Anubian Lights-- "Information" (Live w/Nik Turner; Strange Trips Records) 11.C3PO vs. H2O-- "Positive Reverberation" (Amberdelic Space II comp; Dressed to Kill Records) 12.Loop Guru-- "Karma Marga" (Loop Bites Dog; World Domination Records) 13.Hawklords-- "Flying Doctor" (25 Years On; Charisma/Virgin Records) 14.Pink Faries-- "The Snake" (Never Never Land; Polydor Records) 15.Man-- "Spunk Rock" (2 Oz's of Plastic w/a Hole in the Middle , Early Days ) 16.Deep Purple-- "Fools" (Fireball; Waner Bros.) 17.Klaus Schulze-- "Satz Exil Sils Maria" (Irrlicht; Magnum/Thunderbolt Records) 18.Saturnia-- title-track (The Glitter Odd; Cranium Music) 19.Gong-- "Isle of Everywhere" (Est Mort; Tapioca Records) 20.Amon Duul 2-- "Kanaan" (Phallus Dei; Sunset/Liberty Records) 21.Hawkwind-- "I Do It" (Text of Festival; Illuminated Records) 22.The Residents-- "The Knife Fight" (Whatever Happened to Vileness Fats?; ESD Records) thanks, Chuck From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Aug 24 17:08:13 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 15:08:13 -0600 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts In-Reply-To: <200108241831.OAA00424@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: doug p: <<"But if it's on the Dossier comp that Jon referred to, you may as well pick that up over 'Prophets of Time' ...">> Stonehenge, Who Knows? is not included on the German comp. "Sonic Attack 2001" *excellent comp. however, with at least one exclusive live track* m From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Fri Aug 24 18:45:44 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:45:44 -0600 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: Here we go again... OK, now I need another cd. Anybody got an extra copy of the Sonic Attack 2001 compilation? I never heard of this before (vever seen it on ebay, anyways), but I don't really follow the Nik solo stuff that much. Now that you've discussed it beyond 3 messages, I need it. Mike C. always does that to me.... :) Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: mike c To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 3:08 PM Subject: Re: HW: Nik thoughts > doug p: > > <<"But if it's on the Dossier comp that Jon referred to, you may as well pick > that up over 'Prophets of Time' ...">> > > Stonehenge, Who Knows? is not included on the German comp. "Sonic Attack 2001" > *excellent comp. however, with at least one exclusive live track* > m From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Aug 24 22:14:49 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:14:49 EDT Subject: OFF: sf worldcon in philadelphia - big maybe Message-ID: Arin, Thanks for the digest version. My eyes were hurting trying to read through the tons of tiny print. The main reason I asked about the TV SCI-Fi stuff was my wife has never been to any sci-fi cons with Dr. Who/red dwarf etc people. I got that outta my system back in the early 80's but she missed out. We are considering visions this year....don't know who's going to be there though. As far as the more literary theme of the event that would appeal more to me, having been reading sci-fi since I was wee-high. And you are too right, this thing is not cheap! not sure if I'm attending. my favorite post-daddy phrase: we'll see. bob In a message dated 8/24/2001 11:36:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU writes: > Bob, > > It isn't a visual media sf convention, but primarily for written sf. > No media guests, I'm afraid. Just lots of writers, artists, editors and > assorted other stuff. > > Best days to go: > > If you wish to be there for the dealer's room feeding frenzy: 8/30 > If you just want to catch good programming and parties: 8/31 or 9/1 > > Note that it's kind of pricey for one-day fees: > > At-the-door membership rates for the full convention are: Adult > $200; Child $50; Adult one-day rates: Thursday $50; Friday $65; Saturday > $85; Sunday $80; Monday $35; Child one-day rates: $15. > > Thanks, > > Arin > From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Aug 24 22:05:49 2001 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:05:49 -0400 Subject: off-happy birthday Message-ID: ...and happy birthdays to ken hensley and jim capaldi... keep on rockin'!! tim From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Aug 25 08:26:48 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 08:26:48 EDT Subject: Hawkwind EMI sampler promo cd Message-ID: Hi, There's been talk on this list about the EMI remastered promo cd. there's one on ebay right now: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1459014835 I guess it's not such a rarity? bob From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Aug 25 10:00:02 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 08:00:02 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind EMI sampler promo cd In-Reply-To: <131.9321b6.28b8f388@aol.com> Message-ID: Wrong guess. ps- beware- the curse- the curse- (if you look closely, you'll see 7 by 7) Mike "Gee that Venom Hammersmith video was good twice in a row with bugkiller and Brew" C. <http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1459014835 I guess it's not such a rarity? bob>> From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sat Aug 25 12:45:42 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:45:42 -0500 Subject: OFF: sf worldcon in philadelphia - big maybe In-Reply-To: <77.19fafe4d.28b86419@aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Bob Lennon wrote: :Subject: Re: OFF: sf worldcon in philadelphia - big maybe : :Arin, :Thanks for the digest version. My eyes were hurting trying to read through :the tons of tiny print. The main reason I asked about the TV SCI-Fi stuff was :my wife has never been to any sci-fi cons with Dr. Who/red dwarf etc people. :I got that outta my system back in the early 80's but she missed out. We are :considering visions this year....don't know who's going to be there though. :As far as the more literary theme of the event that would appeal more to me, :having been reading sci-fi since I was wee-high. And you are too right, this :thing is not cheap! Is visions still in operation? I attended the first two, didn't really like them, and stopped going. Even after I moved to Chicago ;-) Not cheap, but still fun. If you can make it during the day, try to wander by at night for the parties ;-) :not sure if I'm attending. my favorite post-daddy phrase: we'll see. well, if you do decide to attend, or just feel like hanging out, drop me a line. I'm staying at the Marriott ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Aug 25 14:29:49 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 19:29:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Communication breakdown! - please read Message-ID: I'm having some serious problems with my server, Freeserve, in that I'm having difficulty accessing my In-box (sporadic and fleeting). To those of you who have tried to contact me either through the Group or Off-list (especially with regard to CDR Trees); I will be in touch soon. Filip any chance of being included in the Tree? Best wishes See you at the gigs Dave From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Aug 25 15:05:48 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:05:48 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind EMI sampler promo cd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What I meant earlier, is it is a CDR, and reminds of the Epoch Eclipse CDR Acetates that EMI released, and can't imagine them doing TOO many......even though they show up here and there........... I should have bid on that other copy since it's listed as mint, when I had my chance..maybe.....(oh well)...they'll be more..... wish you well Bob....seriously.. mike c There's been talk on this list about the EMI remastered promo cd. there's one on ebay right now:>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1459014835 I guess it's not such a rarity? >bob>> From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 25 14:31:08 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 19:31:08 +0100 Subject: off:KING BLACK ACID on best band list Message-ID: yep - also they are doing well BECAUSE THEY ARE SENSATIONAL -all CD's always in stock at CD Services and when they break REALLY BIG remember, CD Services started their careers as far as the UK goes - consistent sellers - for advice on purchase, or preferably to make a purchase, give me a shout. Andy Garibaldi andygee at dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Shaw" To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 7:09 PM Subject: off:KING BLACK ACID on best band list > Some one told me about a band list that you can > vote for best local bands in Portland Oregon > until August 29. > > KING BLACK ACID is currently at the number 7 position > and looks like they are rocketing up the list. Looks > like the voting is daily. You can vote. Read reviews > about the band by clicking on their name. > > http://portland.citysearch.com/best/ballot/148 > > I image they are doing so well on this list as they > are about to start playing live shows again next > month in Portland. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 25 14:43:03 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 19:43:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts/Demi Monde Message-ID: darned thing's been out of press for ages - we've had copies of order for far too long - thanks for reminding me to phine the label on Monday and find out what is the story behind this. On subject of Demi-Monde, looks like most of the Hawk-relevant catalogue is nor deleted and no sign of represses or rehashes for the forseeable future - good or bad depending on point of view and who you are I suppose - looks like we'll never get the full 'Text Of Festival' CD at this rate. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "BL Young" To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:45 PM Subject: Re: HW: Nik thoughts > Here we go again... > > OK, now I need another cd. Anybody got an extra copy of the Sonic Attack > 2001 compilation? I never heard of this before (vever seen it on ebay, > anyways), but I don't really follow the Nik solo stuff that much. Now that > you've discussed it beyond 3 messages, I need it. > > Mike C. always does that to me.... :) > > Bryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mike c > To: > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Nik thoughts > > > > doug p: > > > > <<"But if it's on the Dossier comp that Jon referred to, you may as well > pick > > that up over 'Prophets of Time' ...">> > > > > Stonehenge, Who Knows? is not included on the German comp. "Sonic Attack > 2001" > > *excellent comp. however, with at least one exclusive live track* > > m From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 25 14:44:39 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 19:44:39 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind EMI sampler promo cd Message-ID: maybe not worth a mint but rare enough - EMI did not seem to be 'issuing' that many to dealers who have shops. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Lennon" To: Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: Hawkwind EMI sampler promo cd > Hi, > There's been talk on this list about the EMI remastered promo cd. > there's one on ebay right now: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1459014835 > I guess it's not such a rarity? > bob From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Aug 26 03:20:57 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:20:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: Hi, I think that the poetry pieces on PoT are the worst element about the CD. Armor For Everyday makes me cringe. That, the Announcement piece and Lost Chances remind me of a 10-year old kid learning how to emphasise (badly). PoT is an extremely disjointed CD with some great moments, like the abductee talking about Mandra Olika, Lunar Sky & Children Of The Sun. Then there's ICU covers from 80 - 85(?), which have varying degrees of success. Then a coupe of new songs which are OK. It draws on far too many sources for my liking. 30% of the Nik Space Ritual CD is great, but that's not enough to make it a worthy purchase. Fast & Future is a far better attempt overall at consistancy. Having witnessed one of the Nik 2000 shows (Ystalefera) I fail to see how anybody could contemplate releasing any of it. I had a fantastic time but that doesn't make up for the music being dire to the extreme. Very 1970 in it's random jamming but a free-form gig too far when only 10 seconds of each song make it recognisable! Having said that, I'm looking forward to seeing them again should they do another low key festival. Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Pearson To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 7:31 PM Subject: Re: HW: Nik thoughts > On Fri, 24 Aug 2001 02:28:32 +0100, Jon Jarrett > wrote: > >On Tue, 22 May 2001, Paul Mather wrote: > >> _Prophets of Time_ is for Nik > >> kompletists, at least as far as I'm concerned. > > > > Yeah, it's not up to much. The P'Orridge poetry readings are > >worthwhile and the two or three electronic pieces which are basically > >Grenas, del Rio and Fox quite nice; of the actual Nikwerx however only > >`Stonehenge Decoded' lives up to its old glory and the two newish Nik > >pieces are very odd. > > > That would be "Stonehenge, Who Knows?" > > > (I'm sure I've said this many times, but I'll say it again ...) That track > alone justifies the purchase of 'Prophets of Time' for me, and it should > for any Simon House fan. His violin work is OUTSTANDING on that one (no > slight to Dead Fred Reeves, who did a fine job on the original), which is > the main reason why it betters the original Inner City Unit version (as > opposed to the rest of the album, on which all the other ICU covers don't > come close to the originals [I can see the Judge gloating over that > statement, I'm sure...]). > > But if it's on the Dossier comp that Jon referred to, you may as well pick > that up over 'Prophets of Time' ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Aug 26 10:28:22 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 10:28:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Remember Woody Message-ID: Today marks a sad anniversary: the death of bass player extraordinaire Allen Woody on 26th August, 2000. Anyone on this list that appreciates the power, thunder, and talen of Lemmy can share the immense loss in the passing of Woody. Luckily, Douglas Allen Woody lives on in his music, and the recordings he left behind, both studio and live. So, on this day, remember one of the true greats, and play one for Woody. Oh, and play it loud. You know he would have... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "The threshold of pain is 117dB. We play at 124." --- Douglas Allen Woody, 1956-2000 From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Aug 26 13:23:56 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 13:23:56 EDT Subject: OFF: sf worldcon in philadelphia - big maybe Message-ID: In a message dated 8/25/2001 12:46:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU writes: > On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Bob Lennon wrote: > > :Subject: Re: OFF: sf worldcon in philadelphia - big maybe > > > Is visions still in operation? I attended the first two, didn't really > like them, and stopped going. Even after I moved to Chicago ;-) Ithink they still do sci-fi conventions. I never went to a Visions show though. They usually have many actors from the shows. I'm surprised by your reaction. I figured they would be the cream of the crop. > > Not cheap, but still fun. If you can make it during the day, try to > wander by at night for the parties ;-) > I may just do that > :not sure if I'm attending. my favorite post-daddy phrase: we'll see. > > well, if you do decide to attend, or just feel like hanging out, drop me a > line. I'm staying at the Marriott ;-) > > ok bob From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Aug 26 16:15:58 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 21:15:58 +0100 Subject: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix Message-ID: I'll do you a tape as soon as I can. I haxe all of the stuff that you list. Send me your address. Dave -----Original Message----- From: g.m.wright To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 15 August 2001 21:14 Subject: Re: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix WOW!!!! I dont think twink was with them whem i saw them, he was busy with the pinkwind project, also playing the festival. I remember Kharma Kannix as a guitar based band, I dont recall kbs/synth, but then memory is a strange thing. Yes I think that would be the twink. Would you be interested in trading a copy of the tape for anything i've got by here & now? Cheers Geoff Live Floating Anarchy '77 (charly CRM 2000). Opium for the People (AFS 101). Dog in Hell EP (Charly CEP 122 - '78). Give & Take (Charly NOW1). What you see... (Deptford fun city DLP 02) - live with ATV All over the show (Charly NOW2) live the end of the beginning (CYS 1055) Fantasy Shift (Chick CHRL003) Theatre (Landslide LANDLP103) Standing forever12" (Scratch HANCAN 1) U.F.Oasis (Now Here CD001) Gospel of Free (Gas AGASCD015) THIS CD IS STILL AVAILABLE FROM GAS Past Masters vol 1 (CASS001) Live Floating Anarchy 1991 (GAS003) Opium for the people ? studio french lyrics. geoff wright g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: david hall To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu Date: 15 August 2001 18:34 Subject: Re: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix >Saw Karma Kanix at Stonehenge 84. Managed to buy a tape from the band!! You must be the only other person who has heard of this mob. A 'Twink' is listed as synth player I think...is this the same guy who filled in when Tim Blake left? > >Dave >----- Original Message ----- >From: "g.m.wright" >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Sent: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:21:17 +0100 (GMT+01:00) >Subject: here & now > >> Hi Folks, I know that this isn't strictly speaking a Hawkwind related item, = >> but, I'm hoping that there's someone out there who can help me chase = >> down copies of any of the tape releases or copies of gigs by Here & Now, = >> or any releases by an 80's festival band called Kharma Kannix. I only = >> got to see KK the once at the Festival of the sunyears ago, and was = >> really pissed off to hear that it was their last gig, they were = >> fantastic, best band there i.m.o. >> I have no idea what they had released but would love to get hold of any = >> of their music. >> I have all of the vinyl & cd releases by Here & Now & a copy of Past = >> Masters vol. 1 by Here & Now and would love to get hold of any other of = >> the tape albums and unofficial recordings. >> If anyone out there can help, can they email me privately. >> Thanks Geoff >> >> geoff wright >> g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk > > > > >_______________________________________________________________________ >FSmail - Get your free web-based email from Freeserve: www.fsmail.net > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Aug 26 16:23:35 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 21:23:35 +0100 Subject: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix Message-ID: Apologies for the lateness, the Twink doppelganger was also on synth for Gong for a while - I think Dave -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 16 August 2001 22:22 Subject: Re: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix >I was talking to a member of the band last night about the infamous 'Tim >Blake Dumped At Hotel' episode - not to mention the slightly less well-known >but equally memorable 'Tim Blake Thrown Out Of Vehicle In Tottenham Court >Road' saga. > >He recalls 'Twink' being Tim's synth roadie at the time. This Twink was >definitely not the Pink Fairies John Alder. > >He also remembers several heated exchanges 'post-sacking' regarding the >question of Tim getting his gear back, as it continued the tour without >him... > >Captain Bl at ck. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jill Strobridge >To: >Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 11:16 PM >Subject: Re: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: g.m.wright >> > >> > WOW!!!! >> > I dont think twink was with them whem i saw them, he was busy with >> the >> > pinkwind project, also playing the festival. I remember Kharma Kannix >> as a >> > guitar based band, I dont recall kbs/synth, but then memory is a >> strange >> > thing. Yes I think that would be the twink. >> >> Correct me if I'm wrong, please, somebody, but I think there are two >> Twinks. The Twink of Pink Fairies and occasionally Nik Turner plays >> drums. The Twink who stood in briefly as a Tim Blake replacement was >> a roadie of that name. Without knowing anything more than that I >> would suggest that the synth player mentioned is more than likely to be >> the other Twink rather than the Pink Fairies Twink. >> >> Confusingly >> jill >> > comfortable bed in Canterbury! So there is one free tent space >> available at the Farm now, if someone else hasn't already taken it> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> Jill Strobridge >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> -----Original Message----- >> From: david hall >> To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu >> Date: 15 August 2001 18:34 >> Subject: Re: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix >> >> >> >Saw Karma Kanix at Stonehenge 84. Managed to buy a tape from the band!! >> You >> must be the only other person who has heard of this mob. A 'Twink' is >> listed >> as synth player I think...is this the same guy who filled in when Tim >> Blake >> left? >> > > From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sun Aug 26 21:21:01 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 21:21:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: SLOTERDIJK: setlist 8/25 Amityville Long Island (New York) Message-ID: Free The Gnome ( new tune; first time played live) The Thunderbirds Uranium Zone Fred Goldman's Mustache Integration Circle of Eternity ( new tune, first time played live) Orgone Accumulator ( first time played live) * Don't forget our upcoming show in Long Branch, New Jersey, Saturday, September 8th!! see website URL below for complete details and venue info. www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK Mon Aug 27 05:09:06 2001 From: g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK (g.m.wright) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:09:06 +0100 Subject: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix Message-ID: Thanks Dave, Thats brill. I hope to be getting hold of some other bits and bobs by H&n soon, I'll let you know what turns up and will happily make a copy of anything you require. Thanks Geoff oh yes! Geoff Wright 1 salmond rd carbrooke watton norfolk ip25 6jf geoff wright g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: dave hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 26 August 2001 20:37 Subject: Re: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix >I'll do you a tape as soon as I can. I haxe all of the stuff that you list. >Send me your address. > Dave >-----Original Message----- >From: g.m.wright >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Date: 15 August 2001 21:14 >Subject: Re: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix > > >WOW!!!! > I dont think twink was with them whem i saw them, he was busy with the >pinkwind project, also playing the festival. I remember Kharma Kannix as a >guitar based band, I dont recall kbs/synth, but then memory is a strange >thing. Yes I think that would be the twink. >Would you be interested in trading a copy of the tape for anything i've got >by here & now? >Cheers > Geoff > >Live Floating Anarchy '77 (charly CRM 2000). >Opium for the People (AFS 101). >Dog in Hell EP (Charly CEP 122 - '78). >Give & Take (Charly NOW1). >What you see... (Deptford fun city DLP 02) - live with ATV >All over the show (Charly NOW2) live >the end of the beginning (CYS 1055) >Fantasy Shift (Chick CHRL003) >Theatre (Landslide LANDLP103) >Standing forever12" (Scratch HANCAN 1) >U.F.Oasis (Now Here CD001) >Gospel of Free (Gas AGASCD015) THIS CD IS STILL AVAILABLE FROM GAS >Past Masters vol 1 (CASS001) >Live Floating Anarchy 1991 (GAS003) >Opium for the people ? studio french lyrics. > > >geoff wright >g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: david hall >To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu >Date: 15 August 2001 18:34 >Subject: Re: here & now Alert!! Karma Kanix > > >>Saw Karma Kanix at Stonehenge 84. Managed to buy a tape from the band!! You >must be the only other person who has heard of this mob. A 'Twink' is listed >as synth player I think...is this the same guy who filled in when Tim Blake >left? >> >>Dave >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "g.m.wright" >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >>Sent: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:21:17 +0100 (GMT+01:00) >>Subject: here & now >> >>> Hi Folks, I know that this isn't strictly speaking a Hawkwind related >item, = >>> but, I'm hoping that there's someone out there who can help me chase = >>> down copies of any of the tape releases or copies of gigs by Here & Now, >= >>> or any releases by an 80's festival band called Kharma Kannix. I only = >>> got to see KK the once at the Festival of the sunyears ago, and was = >>> really pissed off to hear that it was their last gig, they were = >>> fantastic, best band there i.m.o. >>> I have no idea what they had released but would love to get hold of any = >>> of their music. >>> I have all of the vinyl & cd releases by Here & Now & a copy of Past = >>> Masters vol. 1 by Here & Now and would love to get hold of any other of >= >>> the tape albums and unofficial recordings. >>> If anyone out there can help, can they email me privately. >>> Thanks Geoff >>> >>> geoff wright >>> g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________________________________ >>FSmail - Get your free web-based email from Freeserve: www.fsmail.net >> > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Aug 27 12:43:30 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:43:30 +0200 Subject: test Message-ID: test, please ignore From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 27 12:18:13 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:18:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul II report Message-ID: Forwarding from deutsch-nepal list...FYI. I coming back from Kloster Cornberg Open Air. Amon D??l 2 played on Friday and did blow my mind. Renate, Lothar, Chris, John, Peter and 2 other guys played 1 1/2 hours of old songs. I talked with them after and they told me, they will play more live in this year and maybe make a new record. Kraan was also fantastic. Epitaph was a surprise. Damo Suzuki played with an absolutely stoned Michael Karoli (He didn't manage to plug in his guitar). Man was quite good. Jane was ok, playing only old tunes as a rock trio, really heavy and Embryo did there ethnic-jazz stuff. A fantastic Festival. Dirk www.kraut-rock.de From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon Aug 27 18:41:53 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:41:53 -0400 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' Message-ID: Just got both these Nik discs and have been listening to them over the weekend - here's a rundown of both releases and what I think of them - apologies for any overlap/duplication of info from previous posts. First off, they both have very good, profesional packaging. In fact the packaging makes them look very similar - they both prominently feature Nik in his 'horny alien' suit and 'spiked radish' headmask for example. The contents of the discs on the other hand are a completely different story. First, the disappointment. The Ozit-Morpheus-Nikt 2001 ASROL release has the followng printed tracklist - D1. 1. Sonic Attack 2. You Shouldn't Do That 3. Odyssey Improvisation (actually this is 'Seeing It As You Really Are', more or less) 4. Dragon Rider 5. Brainstorm (mislabeled, this is 'Waiting For Tomorrow') 6. Waiting For Tomorrow (just repeats the previous track) 7. Master of the Universe D2. 8. Silver Machine 9. Spirit of the Age 10. Sonic Attack 11. Odyssey Improvisation (actually this is 'Be Yourself') 12. Brainstorm (mislabeled, this is 'Psychedelic Warlords') 13. Ten Seconds of Forever (goes into what sounds like it's going to be 'Spirit of the Age' but instead becomes 'Seeing It As You Really Are') Tracks 1-9 are from Ystalyfera Wales, 10-13 from the earlier Birkenhead Stairways show. Very loose, long, jamming, mostly rather unstructured takes on all these songs. The Ystalyfera tracks are clearly an audience recording, apparently the same one circulating among list-members. The audience is often as loud as the band. Is that the worst of it? No. No attempt has been made to do anything with the recording. When the CD track ends it just stops dead, there is a 2 second silence, then the next track starts abruptly. When the Birkenhead tracks come on its a relief, at least here we have what sounds like a soundboard recording. But again there is no attempt at a smooth transition between tracks - just a sudden discontinuity - except on the last 2 tracks - 12 fades out, then 13 fades in, but to me it sounds like they could have just run them together because this is the one place where the sound appears to be continuous. Go figure. The sound on the Ystalyfera tracks is so poor that the HW listeners who balk at 'Yuri' or 'Text' should steer well clear of this regardless of actual musical content. Any good points? The aforementioned packaging - learning that Dik Mik's real name is apparently Lloyd George (!?) - decent sound on the Birkenhead tracks. Those who listen to audience recordings - say, members of Neo-Quark - will find a few more good things here - Terry Ollis' drumming throughout / the occasional HLL moment / the occasional segment where everything clicks, the audience fades into the background, and it really works for a short while - but in the end I don't think there's nearly enough here to justify buying this. I liked the version of WfT, I kind of liked what they did with SotA and PW, and it was good to hear SIAYRA and BY, but in the end I just cannot recommend this. Sorry guys. Fortunately 'Transglobal Friends & Relations' more than makes up for the disappointment of the 2001 disc. Liner notes say its 'Compiled by Hawkfans for Hawkfans' and they've done it right. It's a mix of live 94 material (which would fit right in on the 'Space Ritual 94' discs - same lineup), live 95-96 material (which would fit right in on the 'Past or Future?' disc - same lineup), and some odds and ends. Here's the trax for Disc 1: 1-4. Delay / Sun Jester / Yyrckoon / Sea King - studio 95 Previously described by EliF. Just a few things to add - Sun Jester adds some lines ("He was Jesus/He was Judas (Jonas?)" among them) to those on the BOC version, Yyrckoon is my pick from among these 4 - the lyrics suffer slightly from Moonglum syndrome but the music is great with some ripping bass -, and Sea King would have a Mike Moorcock credit as the 1st 3 verses were penned by MM as the spell Elric recites to summon the Sea King in the first Elric book. 5,6. Ejection / Thoth - live 94 (Netherlands) Adds Babyface Welsh on trumpet to the SR 94 lineup - the sax/trumpet combo works quite well on Ejection. 7. Dream Worker - live 95 (Austin TX) 8. Day of St. Anthony's Fire - Farflung live 2000 (Spaceland L.A.) Great song, and a great version here. 9,10. Peter Gunn / God Rock - live 94 (Dallas TX / Minneapolis MN) 11,12. Orgone Accumulator / You Shouldn't Do That - live 94 (San Jose CA) Credits say lead guitar is by 'Shane' instead of Helios Creed - did someone cover this in an earlier post? 13. Cleveland Capers - 6-7 minutes of a 94 radio interview w/ Nik Disc 2. 1. Mother Orbis - Farflung at Strange Daze 97 2. D-Rider - live 94 (San Jose CA) 3. Watching the Grass Grow - live 95 (Austin TX) 4,5. Spiral Galaxy / Vision of Infinity - live 95 (Chicago IL) VoI is the Farflung song. 6. Opa-Loka - live 96 (Tokyo) 7. The Right Stuff - live 94 (San Jose CA) 8. Master of the Universe - live 96 (Tokyo) 9. Raven Jam - Farflung at Strange Daze 97 A short jam excerpted from 'Raven that Ate the Moon' 10. Silver Machine - live 94 (San Jose CA) Joined on stage by members of Sleep. 11. In the Mood - live 95 (Chicago IL) Few minutes of Nik solo. A great collection, consistently very good/excellent with what I consider some truly standout moments, especially the Farflung material. I would still say that you should first get 'Past or Future?' and 'Space Ritual 94', but when you've got them, and if you like them at all, then I think this release is most definitely deserving of a place on the shelf right next to them. Thanks for your time and always get a second opinion, Stephan From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 27 19:08:57 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:08:57 +0100 Subject: Anyone in Sheffield this weekend? Message-ID: I'll be down Friday night through Sunday. If any listers are around, a Friday meet would be possible. Also, what are the best record shops? Cheers FoFP From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Aug 27 19:18:54 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:18:54 -0400 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' Message-ID: Stephan - excellent review, thanks! Just one quick detail to add ... On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:41:53 -0400, Stephan Forstner wrote: >11,12. Orgone Accumulator / You Shouldn't Do That - live 94 (San Jose CA) >Credits say lead guitar is by 'Shane' instead of Helios Creed - did someone >cover this in an earlier post? I don't think so. But yes, Helios wasn't there for the last two(?) dates of the '94 tour, having already returned to Hawaii. I had completely forgotten about that, so thanks for the reminder. I think that the guitarist (Shane?) was one of the road crew, but I could be wrong ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Aug 28 07:22:44 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:22:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re-enter the Dragon... Message-ID: Might interest some: "Legends of Welsh Rock, Re-enter the Dragon - Cardiff International Arena - 29th September 2001 Budgie Man Racing Cars Sassafras Kimla Taz" http://www.darecords.co.uk/events/cia.asp -- Andy www.andygilham.com From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Tue Aug 28 10:17:22 2001 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:17:22 EDT Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' Message-ID: In a message dated 08/27/2001 06:24:20 PM, stemfors at PIPELINE.COM writes: << learning that Dik Mik's real name is apparently Lloyd George (!?) - >> Thanks for the nice run down on the 2 CD's, Stephan. I just wanted to clear up the above statement about DikMik which is incorrect. DikMik's real name is Richard Michael,logically enough. Lloyd George is another fellow entirely, who played keyboards with Nik's reunion band, and therefore assumed the "role" of DikMik for those shows. The credit on the CD which reads Lloyd George as DikMik is pretty confusing, and misleading it seems to me, but I suppose what they're trying to communicate is that Lloyd George is performing as a substitute for DikMik. Just wanted to clear that up before DikMik loses his identity completely. Eli Friedman From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Tue Aug 28 10:59:36 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:59:36 +0100 Subject: Anyone in Sheffield this weekend? Message-ID: Hi Mike >I'll be down Friday night through Sunday. If any listers are around, a >Friday meet would be possible. Also, what are the best record shops? Sadly, I'm not around this weekend, but I can recommend some shops for you. First, there's the (almost) appropriately-named FOPP on Division St (just up from the City Hall). Great place for bargains. As an e.g. they had 3 of the HW EMI jewel-case reissues (1st, Doremi & Mountain Grill) in last week for a fiver each. Very quick turnover of stock, so it's a bit of a hit & miss affair, but on a good day can be well worth a visit. If you're happy to venture out of the city centre, I'd try Record Collector at Broomhill (approx. 1.5 miles from the centre on the A57, past the main Sheff Uni building). They've been pretty good for HW & similar in the past, have a good 2nd hand section & a vinyl shop next door. Have fun! Dave From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Aug 28 13:43:37 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:43:37 -0500 Subject: OFF: Scientology Inc. Message-ID: http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2001-08-23/cover.asp From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Aug 28 14:19:04 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:19:04 +0100 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: Sorry to be a party-pooper, but I'm still not 100% convinced. Although I can believe the warts and the hat (does he weigh the same as a duck?) the jaw still looks wrong. Having gone to Bill Bradley's site and nicked the vid from it, I have freeze-framed and am not sure. There is a remarkable resemblance, but that's what people told me 20 years ago about the roadie I mentioned (though I've never seen him in the flesh). Ah well, perhaps we'll never know. "Guido N. Vacano" wrote: > Yeah, that'd cover up the warts (cocoa puffs), but what about his TEETH? :-) > > Guido > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of BL Young > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:02 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: What The... > > There are plenty of pictures with Lemmy wearing that type of hat. I think > it's from his collection -- doesn't it look like an army type hat from some > era? > > And his warts are on the side of his face that the violin would obscure. > Actually, if he wanted to hide those warts and be a true teen idol, he > should have picked up the violin instead of the guitar. > > Bryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: fatrat > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:57 PM > Subject: Re: HW: What The... > > > I have a feeling we are all misinformed: after seeing Mr Kilmister on a > recent > > late night show, the violin-wielding "Lemmy" in question looks a) too > clean b) > > too small-jawed c) not warty enough and d) I don't think the real Lemme > > Kilmister is the line-dancing type! (see cowboy hat). Bernard Manning > doing the > > dishes and nice Daleks I can believe but that is NOT the real Lemmy. I > believe > > it is a cunning body-double. Some years ago I heard of a roady > (co-incidentally > > known as "Fast Eddy") who looks so much like Lemmy that after repeated > requests > > he started signing Lemmy's autograph when asked, in order to get > > over-enthusiastic fans off of his back. I think it is he and not the > > diesel-drinking steel-throated fish-looking singing bass murderer (ie > killing > > with his four-stringed Rickenbacker, not murdering bass lines!). If anyone > has > > any further info, I would be interested. > > > > Neil Ward wrote: > > > > > So, Keith, you admit to watching 'Coronation Street' then do you??? > > > > > > I presume this is simply to worship the spirits of the one known as > > > Khenbaaarloooooo, and not because you are an incurable soap fan. > > > > > > Neil. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:16 PM > > > Subject: HW: What The... > > > > > > There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between > Coronation > > > Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like > Lawrence > > > Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically > about > > > his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section > playing > > > on the soundtrack. > > > > > > Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. > > > > > > No joke. From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Aug 28 14:24:20 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:24:20 +0100 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' Message-ID: Ricahrd Michael Davies, actually.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Eli Friedman To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: Re: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' > In a message dated 08/27/2001 06:24:20 PM, stemfors at PIPELINE.COM writes: > > << learning that Dik Mik's real name is > apparently Lloyd George (!?) - >> > > Thanks for the nice run down on the 2 CD's, Stephan. I just wanted to clear > up the above statement about DikMik which is incorrect. DikMik's real name is > Richard Michael,logically enough. Lloyd George is another fellow entirely, > who played keyboards with Nik's reunion band, and therefore assumed the > "role" of DikMik for those shows. The credit on the CD which reads Lloyd > George as DikMik is pretty confusing, and misleading it seems to me, but I > suppose what they're trying to communicate is that Lloyd George is performing > as > a substitute for DikMik. Just wanted to clear that up before DikMik loses his > identity completely. > Eli Friedman From wrightm at BRE.CO.UK Tue Aug 28 14:30:45 2001 From: wrightm at BRE.CO.UK (Wright, Mike) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:30:45 +0100 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: ISTR that sometime after moving to USA Lemmy had his teeth done, and now his smiles are far more american than they used to be. I was shocked when I saw him the first time after he'd had it done. I am 100% sure it is he. Mike > From: fatrat [mailto:hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK] > > Sorry to be a party-pooper, but I'm still not 100% convinced. > Although I can > believe the warts and the hat (does he weigh the same as a > duck?) the jaw still > looks wrong. . > > "Guido N. Vacano" wrote: > > > Yeah, that'd cover up the warts (cocoa puffs), but what > about his TEETH? :-) > > Privileged and confidential information and/or copyright material may be contained in this e-mail. The information and material is intended for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee you may not copy or deliver it to anyone else or use it in any unauthorised manner. To do so is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 28 15:38:26 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:38:26 -0600 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' In-Reply-To: <005e01c12fee$a81a43a0$4a1828d5@starfield> Message-ID: "Ricahrd Michael Davies, actually...." Hi Captain- I was gonna say that, but since I held my tongue, lets get this thing JUST PERFECT!!!! "Richard Michael Davies" hehe m so how about a story about Tim Blake flying out a car window and scraping his ass badly (hey I'm a dedicated fan- won't affect me), or how about stories of the 2 sides of Dik and Mik??? Godzilla and Bambi all in the course of an hour??? whats IN the name??? From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Aug 28 15:49:39 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:49:39 -0600 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' In-Reply-To: <005e01c12fee$a81a43a0$4a1828d5@starfield> Message-ID: and furthermore- what is the mystique in Nick tranforming into Nik, then we have things along the path like "PikNik", and "PikWik", and it just gets Sik..... Which came first Nik, or DikMik??? is this some kind of trik? sorry- I can go eat lunch bye m so tell us about every Tom, DikMik, Nik and Harry.......? From hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Aug 28 14:57:53 2001 From: hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (fatrat) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:57:53 +0100 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: Okay, okay I give in!! (though please allow me to harbour my own personal doubts!) "Wright, Mike" wrote: > ISTR that sometime after moving to USA Lemmy had his teeth done, and now his > smiles are far more american than they used to be. I was shocked when I saw > him the first time after he'd had it done. I am 100% sure it is he. > > Mike > > > From: fatrat [mailto:hawkfan at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK] > > > > Sorry to be a party-pooper, but I'm still not 100% convinced. > > Although I can > > believe the warts and the hat (does he weigh the same as a > > duck?) the jaw still > > looks wrong. > . > > > > "Guido N. Vacano" wrote: > > > > > Yeah, that'd cover up the warts (cocoa puffs), but what > > about his TEETH? :-) > > > > > Privileged and confidential information and/or copyright material may be > contained in this e-mail. The information and material is intended for the > use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee > you may not copy or deliver it to anyone else or use it in any unauthorised > manner. To do so is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this > e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail and > destroy all copies. Thank you. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Aug 28 14:58:13 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:58:13 -0400 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:30:45 +0100, Wright, Mike wrote: >ISTR that sometime after moving to USA Lemmy had his teeth done, and now >his smiles are far more american than they used to be. I was shocked when >I saw him the first time after he'd had it done. Yeah, he mentions this in the 'No Remorse' liner notes. In reference to the song "Snaggletooth", of course. I guess being English AND a speedfreak ("All good clean fun / have another stick of gum ...") was two strikes against his poor choppers ... they didn't stand a chance! I also always liked the story about Moby Grape's advance from Columbia/CBS being spent on fixing Skip Spence's teeth. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 28 15:00:37 2001 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Beautiful Foot) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:00:37 +0100 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: oh fer flip sake, 'course it's Lemmy - what would be the point of the ad otherwise? Lemmy's advertising career is well known, insurance ads, etc.. Hell if Spinal Tap can sell laptops, Lemmy can mime (badly - his fingers are stationary) on a violin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "fatrat" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:19 PM Subject: Re: HW: What The... > Sorry to be a party-pooper, but I'm still not 100% convinced. Although I can > believe the warts and the hat (does he weigh the same as a duck?) the jaw still > looks wrong. > > Having gone to Bill Bradley's site and nicked the vid from it, I have > freeze-framed and am not sure. There is a remarkable resemblance, but that's > what people told me 20 years ago about the roadie I mentioned (though I've never > seen him in the flesh). > > Ah well, perhaps we'll never know. > > "Guido N. Vacano" wrote: > > > Yeah, that'd cover up the warts (cocoa puffs), but what about his TEETH? :-) > > > > Guido > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of BL Young > > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:02 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: HW: What The... > > > > There are plenty of pictures with Lemmy wearing that type of hat. I think > > it's from his collection -- doesn't it look like an army type hat from some > > era? > > > > And his warts are on the side of his face that the violin would obscure. > > Actually, if he wanted to hide those warts and be a true teen idol, he > > should have picked up the violin instead of the guitar. > > > > Bryan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: fatrat > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:57 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: What The... > > > > > I have a feeling we are all misinformed: after seeing Mr Kilmister on a > > recent > > > late night show, the violin-wielding "Lemmy" in question looks a) too > > clean b) > > > too small-jawed c) not warty enough and d) I don't think the real Lemme > > > Kilmister is the line-dancing type! (see cowboy hat). Bernard Manning > > doing the > > > dishes and nice Daleks I can believe but that is NOT the real Lemmy. I > > believe > > > it is a cunning body-double. Some years ago I heard of a roady > > (co-incidentally > > > known as "Fast Eddy") who looks so much like Lemmy that after repeated > > requests > > > he started signing Lemmy's autograph when asked, in order to get > > > over-enthusiastic fans off of his back. I think it is he and not the > > > diesel-drinking steel-throated fish-looking singing bass murderer (ie > > killing > > > with his four-stringed Rickenbacker, not murdering bass lines!). If anyone > > has > > > any further info, I would be interested. > > > > > > Neil Ward wrote: > > > > > > > So, Keith, you admit to watching 'Coronation Street' then do you??? > > > > > > > > I presume this is simply to worship the spirits of the one known as > > > > Khenbaaarloooooo, and not because you are an incurable soap fan. > > > > > > > > Neil. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:16 PM > > > > Subject: HW: What The... > > > > > > > > There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between > > Coronation > > > > Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like > > Lawrence > > > > Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically > > about > > > > his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section > > playing > > > > on the soundtrack. > > > > > > > > Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. > > > > > > > > No joke. > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Aug 28 15:00:38 2001 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:00:38 -0400 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:00:37 +0100, Beautiful Foot wrote: >Hell if Spinal Tap can sell laptops, Lemmy can mime (badly - his fingers >are stationary) on a violin. What?!? You mean he *didn't* play the violin part on the original version of "Motorhead"? ;^) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Aug 28 15:40:11 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:40:11 +0200 Subject: Some thoughts 'bout Canterbury In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Folks Received my copy of the CANTERBURY 18.8.2001 show. Thanks Colin. You have done a great job!!! Well, WHAT A PHANTASTIC GIG!!! For me it is the BEST HAWKWIND gig since 1989. Every song they performed in Canterbury sounds different to their performances in the last couple of years. What we have now is again a change in HAWKWINDs music style. A POSITIVE change The reason is the current lineup which is strange and amazing at the same time. Huw and Simon did a perfect job together. And Captain Black fits to this melodic part of HAWKWIND very well. I really enjoy his Synthie playing. Dave, Richard and Alan played great as ever. The result of this line-up are songs like SPIRIT OF THE AGE, LEVITATION, GOLDEN VOID, which I will never forget. The whole set was VERY SPECIAL. Listen to this gig carefully and compare it to the gigs of the last 10 years. You will notice a big change. Of course I love all their style changes (except 1983 which was awfull) through the years and the different lineups but I think what we have now is the birth of a new and phantastic one... Any other thoughts ?? Bernhard From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 28 14:44:47 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:44:47 +0100 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' Message-ID: beautifully put - you're not after my job, are you!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan Forstner" To: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:41 PM Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' > Just got both these Nik discs and have been listening to them over the > weekend - here's a rundown of both releases and what I think of them - > apologies for any overlap/duplication of info from previous posts. > Thanks for your time and always get a second opinion, > > Stephan From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 28 17:00:13 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:00:13 +0100 Subject: Some thoughts 'bout Canterbury Message-ID: yeh - and guess which UK Electronica was the only one we organised at which they played - yep, 1983! Must redress that one day as I never did get the set I wanted out of Dave - hmm....maybe one day.... Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Pospiech" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: Some thoughts 'bout Canterbury > Of course I love all their style changes (except 1983 which was awfull) From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Aug 28 18:26:00 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:26:00 +0100 Subject: Some thoughts 'bout Canterbury Message-ID: Bernhard, Thanks for the nice comment:). Like you, I find the new line-up very exciting. Captain Black's contribution is particularly important; he has brought the "spaciness" back into Hawkwind and the combination of Huw and Simon is amazing; they seem to work so well together! Just wait until the Autumn tour when Tim will be added to this line-up! COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Pospiech" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: Some thoughts 'bout Canterbury > Hello Folks > > Received my copy of the CANTERBURY 18.8.2001 show. > Thanks Colin. You have done a great job!!! > > Well, WHAT A PHANTASTIC GIG!!! > > For me it is the BEST HAWKWIND gig since 1989. > Every song they performed in Canterbury sounds different > to their performances in the last couple of years. > > What we have now is again a change in HAWKWINDs music style. > A POSITIVE change > > The reason is the current lineup which is strange and amazing at the same > time. > > Huw and Simon did a perfect job together. And Captain Black fits to this > melodic part of HAWKWIND very well. I really enjoy his Synthie playing. > > Dave, Richard and Alan played great as ever. > > The result of this line-up are songs like SPIRIT OF THE AGE, LEVITATION, > GOLDEN VOID, which I will never forget. > > The whole set was VERY SPECIAL. Listen to this gig carefully and compare it > to the gigs of the last 10 years. You will notice a big change. > > Of course I love all their style changes (except 1983 which was awfull) > through the years and the different lineups but I think what we have now is > the birth of a new and phantastic one... > > > Any other thoughts ?? > > Bernhard > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Aug 28 18:42:13 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:42:13 +0100 Subject: Some thoughts 'bout Canterbury Message-ID: Just got back after a detour to Devon due to family illness. Hi to everyone I met at Canterbury and sorry to those I didn't stay around to chat to - I had to rush off somewhere! It was good to meet up at last though. More comments later. cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Allen To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Some thoughts 'bout Canterbury > Bernhard, > > Thanks for the nice comment:). > > Like you, I find the new line-up very exciting. Captain Black's > contribution is particularly important; he has brought the "spaciness" back > into Hawkwind and the combination of Huw and Simon is amazing; they seem to > work so well together! > > Just wait until the Autumn tour when Tim will be added to this line-up! > > COLIN From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Aug 28 18:56:45 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:56:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor Message-ID: What on earth have I just been listening to!? I've just played Moya twice - the second time about treble the volume of the first (the neighbours are all away so I can do this) and in a darkened room with all the lights turned off. It's "Timewind" but on guitar and violin. Extraordinary. I had a choice of three albums (found them in my favourite record shop in Maidstone) and selected this one at random ("Slow Riot for New Zero Kanada E.P"). I know that folk have discussed the band on this list before, so to anyone who knows these things - are the other albums similar to this? thanks jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Tue Aug 28 19:36:34 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (Bryan Young) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:36:34 -0600 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: Are you a member of the Hawkwind list on yahoogroups? I'll send it to that list as a small attachment, as I've got a really clean freezeframe image of the ad, and I say it's definitely Lemmy. I'll send that within the hour, so if you're not a member, you might have to visit the yahoogroups website, search for the group Hawkwind, and then join up to view the recent messages. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: fatrat To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: Re: HW: What The... >Sorry to be a party-pooper, but I'm still not 100% convinced. Although I can >believe the warts and the hat (does he weigh the same as a duck?) the jaw still >looks wrong. > >Having gone to Bill Bradley's site and nicked the vid from it, I have >freeze-framed and am not sure. There is a remarkable resemblance, but that's >what people told me 20 years ago about the roadie I mentioned (though I've never >seen him in the flesh). > >Ah well, perhaps we'll never know. > >"Guido N. Vacano" wrote: > >> Yeah, that'd cover up the warts (cocoa puffs), but what about his TEETH? :-) >> >> Guido >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >> Behalf Of BL Young >> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:02 PM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >> Subject: Re: HW: What The... >> >> There are plenty of pictures with Lemmy wearing that type of hat. I think >> it's from his collection -- doesn't it look like an army type hat from some >> era? >> >> And his warts are on the side of his face that the violin would obscure. >> Actually, if he wanted to hide those warts and be a true teen idol, he >> should have picked up the violin instead of the guitar. >> >> Bryan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: fatrat >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:57 PM >> Subject: Re: HW: What The... >> >> > I have a feeling we are all misinformed: after seeing Mr Kilmister on a >> recent >> > late night show, the violin-wielding "Lemmy" in question looks a) too >> clean b) >> > too small-jawed c) not warty enough and d) I don't think the real Lemme >> > Kilmister is the line-dancing type! (see cowboy hat). Bernard Manning >> doing the >> > dishes and nice Daleks I can believe but that is NOT the real Lemmy. I >> believe >> > it is a cunning body-double. Some years ago I heard of a roady >> (co-incidentally >> > known as "Fast Eddy") who looks so much like Lemmy that after repeated >> requests >> > he started signing Lemmy's autograph when asked, in order to get >> > over-enthusiastic fans off of his back. I think it is he and not the >> > diesel-drinking steel-throated fish-looking singing bass murderer (ie >> killing >> > with his four-stringed Rickenbacker, not murdering bass lines!). If anyone >> has >> > any further info, I would be interested. >> > >> > Neil Ward wrote: >> > >> > > So, Keith, you admit to watching 'Coronation Street' then do you??? >> > > >> > > I presume this is simply to worship the spirits of the one known as >> > > Khenbaaarloooooo, and not because you are an incurable soap fan. >> > > >> > > Neil. >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Captain Bl at ck" >> > > To: >> > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:16 PM >> > > Subject: HW: What The... >> > > >> > > There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between >> Coronation >> > > Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like >> Lawrence >> > > Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically >> about >> > > his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section >> playing >> > > on the soundtrack. >> > > >> > > Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. >> > > >> > > No joke. From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Tue Aug 28 19:44:26 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (Bryan Young) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:44:26 -0600 Subject: HW: What The... Message-ID: Oops, sorry about that! I'm using the wrong computer right now, and don't have my scan of Lemmy playing the violin. It's unavailable to me until this weekend, when I return to the farm. If anybody wants this image, go ahead and email me offlist. I'll save all the requests and send them all at once this weekend. It's a small jpg, probably about 100K, so don't worry if you're on a slow connection. Thanks, Bryan -----Original Message----- From: fatrat To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: Re: HW: What The... >Sorry to be a party-pooper, but I'm still not 100% convinced. Although I can >believe the warts and the hat (does he weigh the same as a duck?) the jaw still >looks wrong. > >Having gone to Bill Bradley's site and nicked the vid from it, I have >freeze-framed and am not sure. There is a remarkable resemblance, but that's >what people told me 20 years ago about the roadie I mentioned (though I've never >seen him in the flesh). > >Ah well, perhaps we'll never know. > >"Guido N. Vacano" wrote: > >> Yeah, that'd cover up the warts (cocoa puffs), but what about his TEETH? :-) >> >> Guido >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >> Behalf Of BL Young >> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:02 PM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >> Subject: Re: HW: What The... >> >> There are plenty of pictures with Lemmy wearing that type of hat. I think >> it's from his collection -- doesn't it look like an army type hat from some >> era? >> >> And his warts are on the side of his face that the violin would obscure. >> Actually, if he wanted to hide those warts and be a true teen idol, he >> should have picked up the violin instead of the guitar. >> >> Bryan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: fatrat >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 1:57 PM >> Subject: Re: HW: What The... >> >> > I have a feeling we are all misinformed: after seeing Mr Kilmister on a >> recent >> > late night show, the violin-wielding "Lemmy" in question looks a) too >> clean b) >> > too small-jawed c) not warty enough and d) I don't think the real Lemme >> > Kilmister is the line-dancing type! (see cowboy hat). Bernard Manning >> doing the >> > dishes and nice Daleks I can believe but that is NOT the real Lemmy. I >> believe >> > it is a cunning body-double. Some years ago I heard of a roady >> (co-incidentally >> > known as "Fast Eddy") who looks so much like Lemmy that after repeated >> requests >> > he started signing Lemmy's autograph when asked, in order to get >> > over-enthusiastic fans off of his back. I think it is he and not the >> > diesel-drinking steel-throated fish-looking singing bass murderer (ie >> killing >> > with his four-stringed Rickenbacker, not murdering bass lines!). If anyone >> has >> > any further info, I would be interested. >> > >> > Neil Ward wrote: >> > >> > > So, Keith, you admit to watching 'Coronation Street' then do you??? >> > > >> > > I presume this is simply to worship the spirits of the one known as >> > > Khenbaaarloooooo, and not because you are an incurable soap fan. >> > > >> > > Neil. >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Captain Bl at ck" >> > > To: >> > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:16 PM >> > > Subject: HW: What The... >> > > >> > > There I was, sipping a 'bina and watching the adbreak in between >> Coronation >> > > Street, and there's this Kit Kat advert on, featuring folks like >> Lawrence >> > > Llewelyn Bowen having a haircut, Bernard Manning talking romantically >> about >> > > his mother-in-law, and all the way through there's a string section >> playing >> > > on the soundtrack. >> > > >> > > Then right at the end, there's Lemmy playing the violin. >> > > >> > > No joke. From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Wed Aug 29 00:55:49 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:55:49 -0600 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor Message-ID: Jill, Would you be referring to the Klause Schulze CD? You're making me exceedingly curious:) Pam Jill Strobridge wrote: > What on earth have I just been listening to!? I've just played Moya > twice - the second time about treble the volume of the first (the > neighbours are all away so I can do this) and in a darkened room with > all the lights turned off. It's "Timewind" but on guitar and violin. > Extraordinary. > > I had a choice of three albums (found them in my favourite record shop > in Maidstone) and selected this one at random ("Slow Riot for New Zero > Kanada E.P"). I know that folk have discussed the band on this list > before, so to anyone who knows these things - are the other albums > similar to this? > > thanks > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace better!!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:56 PM Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor > What on earth have I just been listening to!? I've just played Moya > twice - the second time about treble the volume of the first (the > neighbours are all away so I can do this) and in a darkened room with > all the lights turned off. It's "Timewind" but on guitar and violin. > Extraordinary. > > I had a choice of three albums (found them in my favourite record shop > in Maidstone) and selected this one at random ("Slow Riot for New Zero > Kanada E.P"). I know that folk have discussed the band on this list > before, so to anyone who knows these things - are the other albums > similar to this? > > thanks > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Aug 29 03:09:02 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:09:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor In-Reply-To: <001501c13014$b67cdcc0$ec62893e@jds> Message-ID: How long have I been banging on about them? Since 1998? ;) > I had a choice of three albums (found them in my favourite record shop > in Maidstone) and selected this one at random ("Slow Riot for New Zero > Kanada E.P"). I know that folk have discussed the band on this list > before, so to anyone who knows these things - are the other albums > similar to this? Similar and perhaps even better - you'll want both F#A#oo and RAISE YOUR SKINNY FISTS LIKE ANTENNAS TO HEAVEN immediately, and in due course you'll also want A Silver Mt Zion's (three members of Godspeed You Black Emperor!) HE HAS LEFT US ALONE BUT SHAFTS OF LIGHT STILL GRACE THE CORNER OF OUR ROOMS, which is more bleak and contemplative. And then you'll be anxiously checking the tour schedules at http://www.brainwashed.com/godspeed/ , because they're simply awesome live... only US and Japanese dates forthcoming though... Factoid about SLOW RIOT - the poem on "Blaise Bailey Finnegan III" is in fact the lyric to "Virus" by Iron Maiden. Make of that what you will. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Aug 29 03:14:19 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:14:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Factoid about SLOW RIOT - the poem on "Blaise Bailey Finnegan III" is in > fact the lyric to "Virus" by Iron Maiden. Make of that what you will. > > -- Andy Tish and peshwari naan. A mere coincidence! As is the fact that Blaze Bailey of Wolfsbane sang with Maiden for a while. It's all a coincidence. :-) Cheers, Rich. From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Aug 29 03:16:25 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:16:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > It's all a coincidence. Well,that's certainly one possible explanation... ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 29 04:45:21 2001 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Beautiful Foot) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:45:21 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor Message-ID: I attest to Andy's reccomendations utterly. Afer reading his reviews, I bought all their product, then saw GYBE! and Silver Mt Zion live here in Belfast. Profound. Maybe check out Sigur Ros also, not too similar, but they might break your heart in the same way they did mine. Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gilham" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:09 AM Subject: Re: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor > How long have I been banging on about them? Since 1998? ;) > > > I had a choice of three albums (found them in my favourite record shop > > in Maidstone) and selected this one at random ("Slow Riot for New Zero > > Kanada E.P"). I know that folk have discussed the band on this list > > before, so to anyone who knows these things - are the other albums > > similar to this? > > Similar and perhaps even better - you'll want both F#A#oo and RAISE YOUR > SKINNY FISTS LIKE ANTENNAS TO HEAVEN immediately, and in due course you'll > also want A Silver Mt Zion's (three members of Godspeed You Black Emperor!) > HE HAS LEFT US ALONE BUT SHAFTS OF LIGHT STILL GRACE THE CORNER OF OUR > ROOMS, which is more bleak and contemplative. > > And then you'll be anxiously checking the tour schedules at > http://www.brainwashed.com/godspeed/ , because they're simply awesome > live... only US and Japanese dates forthcoming though... > > Factoid about SLOW RIOT - the poem on "Blaise Bailey Finnegan III" is in > fact the lyric to "Virus" by Iron Maiden. Make of that what you will. > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > From coral at APORT.RU Wed Aug 29 06:17:23 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:17:23 +0400 Subject: Some thoughts 'bout Canterbury Message-ID: > Like you, I find the new line-up very exciting. Captain Black's > contribution is particularly important; he has brought the "spaciness" back > into Hawkwind and the combination of Huw and Simon is amazing; they seem to > work so well together! Yes, amazing concert. Old style psychedelia in new form is back :). > Just wait until the Autumn tour when Tim will be added to this line-up! Two synth players and also Dave's synth... so it will be three keys/synths? Alice From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 29 07:02:25 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:02:25 +0100 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' In-Reply-To: mike c's message of Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:49:39 -0600 Message-ID: mike c writes: > what is the mystique in Nick tranforming into Nik, then we have things > along the path like "PikNik", and "PikWik", and it just gets Sik..... And what's this with "The artist formerly known as Alan Davey"? Has the arabian trip gone too far? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 29 07:05:36 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:05:36 +0100 Subject: Some thoughts 'bout Canterbury In-Reply-To: Bernhard Pospiech's message of Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:40:11 +0200 Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech writes: > Hello Folks > > Received my copy of the CANTERBURY 18.8.2001 show. > Thanks Colin. You have done a great job!!! > > Well, WHAT A PHANTASTIC GIG!!! > > For me it is the BEST HAWKWIND gig since 1989. > Every song they performed in Canterbury sounds different > to their performances in the last couple of years. > > What we have now is again a change in HAWKWINDs music style. > A POSITIVE change "All engines running. We have liftoff. At 30 minutes past the hour. We've cleared the tower..." FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 29 07:07:34 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:07:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor In-Reply-To: Jill Strobridge's message of Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:56:45 +0100 Message-ID: Jill Strobridge writes: > What on earth have I just been listening to!? I've just played Moya > twice - the second time about treble the volume of the first (the > neighbours are all away so I can do this) and in a darkened room with > all the lights turned off. It's "Timewind" but on guitar and violin. > Extraordinary. That "Timewind" word has perked up my interest. You mean the Schulze album? One of my favourites. So what's this that compares to it? FoFP From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Aug 29 07:16:19 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:16:19 +0100 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' In-Reply-To: <200108291102.MAA19081@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > And what's this with "The artist formerly known as Alan Davey"? Has the > arabian trip gone too far? It's kind of a Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam sort of deal. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Wed Aug 29 07:42:46 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:42:46 -0400 Subject: Some thoughts 'bout Canterbury Message-ID: it was a pleasure to meet you jill, if all too briefly! as to the relative merits of the canterbury gig, i would go back farther than 1989 in an effort to say just how good Hawkwind were. For me it was the best gig since the 70's and as I was young and impressionable then, maybe the best I have seen. The atmosphere was something else too... and I am glad to see Caption Bl at ck getting the credit he is due, all of which I heartily endorse. i chatted with him for a while between Caravan's and Porcupine Tree's sets...he (Keith) is one of the nicest people you could hope to meet. i also had the chance to accost Mr.Brock but decided against it on the basis that he is probably pestered by well-meaning folks all the time. don't miss the autumn tour!!!! --------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:42:13 +0100, Jill Strobridge wrote: >Just got back after a detour to Devon due to family illness. Hi to >everyone I met at Canterbury and sorry to those I didn't stay around to >chat to - I had to rush off somewhere! It was good to meet up at last >though. More comments later. > >cheers >jill From buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 29 11:19:41 2001 From: buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM (Rus Hall) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:19:41 -0400 Subject: BOC: Yes Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Wed Aug 29 11:47:59 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:47:59 -0500 Subject: HW: recent show tapes? Message-ID: With all this talk of the Canterbury show and how incredible it was, I am now duty bound to start snooping around for recordings of it... does anyone have any tapes or CDR's of Hawkwind with the new lineup? I'm eager to hear! My trade list can be found at http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac/tapes.html John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Hello Folks > > Received my copy of the CANTERBURY 18.8.2001 show. > Thanks Colin. You have done a great job!!! > > Well, WHAT A PHANTASTIC GIG!!! > > For me it is the BEST HAWKWIND gig since 1989. > Every song they performed in Canterbury sounds different > to their performances in the last couple of years. > > What we have now is again a change in HAWKWINDs music style. > A POSITIVE change > > The reason is the current lineup which is strange and amazing at the same > time. > > Huw and Simon did a perfect job together. And Captain Black fits to this > melodic part of HAWKWIND very well. I really enjoy his Synthie playing. > > Dave, Richard and Alan played great as ever. > > The result of this line-up are songs like SPIRIT OF THE AGE, LEVITATION, > GOLDEN VOID, which I will never forget. > > The whole set was VERY SPECIAL. Listen to this gig carefully and compare it > to the gigs of the last 10 years. You will notice a big change. > > Of course I love all their style changes (except 1983 which was awfull) > through the years and the different lineups but I think what we have now is > the birth of a new and phantastic one... > > > Any other thoughts ?? > > Bernhard > From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Aug 29 12:46:24 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:46:24 -0400 Subject: BOC: Yes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rus wrote: > Went to see Yes (The Symphonic Tour) this weekend. During the second to the > last 'regular' number there was a bass solo followed immediatelu by a drum > solo. Interesting place to put them (both), no? Didn't know BOC was a role model for Yes. But I think Yes needs to take it a little further. "Sounds like something coming this way now! Sounds like...holy it's Starship Trooper!" Or: I've seen all goooooooood [PEOPLE!] Seen all goooooooooooood [PEOPLE!] All good! [PEOPLE!] Good! [PEOPLE!] Good! [PEOPLE!] I've seen all good people! Slow day at work, Brian P.S. Thanks to everyone who suggested Dublin pubs. I had a great time there. -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio There is no Dana, only Zuul http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 29 13:05:31 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:05:31 EDT Subject: BOC: Yes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 29 Aug 2001, at 12:46, Brian Halligan wrote: > Didn't know BOC was a role model for Yes. But I think Yes needs to > take it a little further. > > "Sounds like something coming this way now! Sounds like...holy > it's Starship Trooper!" > ROTFL! Anyone besides Mike going to make the trip to Northern Lights for B?C this Oct.? theo From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Aug 29 13:16:01 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:16:01 +0100 Subject: BOC: Yes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Brian Halligan wrote: > Rus wrote: > > Went to see Yes (The Symphonic Tour) this weekend. During the second to the > > last 'regular' number there was a bass solo followed immediatelu by a drum > > solo. Interesting place to put them (both), no? > > Didn't know BOC was a role model for Yes. But I think Yes needs to take it a > little further. Interesting. So, what BOC would ppl recommend I play at a Yes fan? He's also a bit of a Rush fan, and, iirc, partial to Caravan, if that helps. Kirsten -- Kirsten Procter ghoti NP: Radio 4 news nina mashine fedha From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Aug 29 13:56:40 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:56:40 -0400 Subject: BOC: Yes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kirsten wrote: > Interesting. So, what BOC would ppl recommend I play at a Yes > fan? He's also a bit of a Rush fan, and, iirc, partial to Caravan, if > that helps. I'd say Imaginos, then Fire of Unknown Origin or Cultosaurus Erectus. Substitute Secret Treaties for Imaginos if he doesn't like "wall of sound" production values, or if you don't consider Imaginos a BOC album. Of course, the only experience I have to go by is that a friend of mine in college who was a Pink Floyd fan really liked the song "Sole Survivor" off FoUO.... Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio There is no Dana, only Zuul http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Aug 29 12:45:24 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:45:24 -0400 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor Message-ID: Jill said... >What on earth have I just been listening to!? I've just played Moya >twice - the second time about treble the volume of the first (the >neighbours are all away so I can do this) and in a darkened room with >all the lights turned off. I do this with Circle's 'Brilliant Colours with Bright Ideas', and after only four minutes or so, I'm pretty freaked out by the experience. But it dissapates quickly as 'Valerian' jars you back into consciousness...I think that was intentional on their part, so as not to be sued by someone going insane. Might be dangerous to do with gybe! because their tracks go on about 10 or 20 minutes. Like my mother said, if you keep crossing your eyes all the time, they're going to get stuck like that. (BTW, treble is triple?) >I had a choice of three albums (found them in my favourite record shop >in Maidstone) and selected this one at random ("Slow Riot for New Zero >Kanada E.P"). I know that folk have discussed the band on this list >before, so to anyone who knows these things - are the other albums >similar to this? I like this stuff better than the F#a#oo thingy, but others disagree, sometimes citing the street banter on Track 2 as a distraction. I don't have the new one, though I saw them play some of this stuff live, which sounded quite good. The amazing thing was how they got all of those people onto one tiny stage. Grakkl (FAA) From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed Aug 29 14:43:35 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:43:35 -0700 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' Message-ID: > > what is the mystique in Nick tranforming into Nik, then we have things > > along the path like "PikNik", and "PikWik", and it just gets Sik..... As long as we don't get Nikachu..... scorch "Nika Nika!" From starfield at SUPANET.COM Wed Aug 29 15:46:30 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 20:46:30 +0100 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' Message-ID: Perhaps the band should issue collectors picture cards, each with a different (ex-)member of the band - GOTTA CATCH EM ALL! ----- Original Message ----- From: John H. McCartney To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:43 PM Subject: Re: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' > > > what is the mystique in Nick tranforming into Nik, then we have things > > > along the path like "PikNik", and "PikWik", and it just gets Sik..... > > > As long as we don't get Nikachu..... > > > > scorch > "Nika Nika!" From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Wed Aug 29 16:50:12 2001 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:50:12 -0400 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' Message-ID: I wrote: > learning that Dik Mik's real name is apparently Lloyd George (!?) EliF wrote: > I just wanted to clear up the above statement about DikMik which > is incorrect. DikMik's real name is Richard Michael,logically > enough. Lloyd George is another fellow entirely, who played keyboards > with Nik's reunion band, and therefore assumed the "role" of DikMik > for those shows. Captain Bl at ck wrote: > Ricahrd Michael Davies, actually.... mike c wrote: > lets get this thing JUST PERFECT!!!! "Richard Michael Davies" Thanks everyone for clearing that up, I thought it didn't quite scan... Andy Garibaldi wrote: > beautifully put - you're not after my job, are you!!! Hmm, getting a free listen of just about every good piece of new music that comes out, being able to hang out on BOC-L as a legitimate part of the job, working on putting out albums by Alan Davey and Bedouin ... how much does it pay? Also - the Space Rock Odyssey crew with the addition of Mick Slattery on guitar and Harvey Bainbridge played at Crewe Limelight Club on Aug. 13 2001 according to posts on neo-quark - can anyone compare the performance at that show with the ones on the Ystalyfera/Birkenhead release? Thanks, Stephan From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Aug 29 17:18:26 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:18:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor Message-ID: definitely - although it lacks the delicacy and subtlety of the synth element of Timewind because the band has 9 members and a much darker and more orchestral sound. They are probably only Timewind in style in that the tracks start quiet and lyrical or fairly minimalist then slowly build up and evolve into a curtain, or perhaps a wash of intense sound. Then when it stops at the end you go "Wow"! A bit like what early Hawkwind did for me a long time ago! Anyhow there are some really very good audio clips at the following web page address http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/9325/godspeed/godspeed .html which are definitely worth listening to as well as some reviews. enjoy jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton > Jill, > Would you be referring to the Klause Schulze CD? You're making me > exceedingly curious:) > Pam From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Aug 29 17:39:17 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:39:17 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham > How long have I been banging on about them? Since 1998? ;) yeah, yeah. I've been re-reading the boc-l archives! I just hadn't found, nor in honesty did I expect to find, any of their albums. However I remembered your comments, which is why I bought a vinyl album in Kent which meant I had to take and keep it safe on 3 long train journeys and 2 London tube excursions over a distance of some 800 miles or so! However it survived in one piece, I'm converted now and have been hunting around for web pages with info. Interestingly BBC on-line has quite a good write-up. http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/profiles/print/gsybemperor.shtml Actually it seems to me that they are the style of band Porcupine Tree have been trying to metamorphose into (and mostly failed) and if Steve Wilson hasn't listened to them yet he should! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Wed Aug 29 18:00:30 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:00:30 +1200 Subject: BOC-L Cranium Music SALE now on In-Reply-To: <200108160900.FAA26125@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Right now we have begun a new Cranium Music SALE with all titles (except the Cranium Label releases) having 20% off normal catalogue price .... plus FREE airmail postage still included. As an example: A title normally at US$15 is now US$12 plus FREE airmail postage. 20% off also listed in Australian, Canadian, Euro, New Zealand & UK currencies. Check out the Cranium Music catalogue at: www.cranium-music.com or at: www.cranium.co.nz Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Aug 29 18:04:41 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:04:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind biog on the BBC web pages Message-ID: I've just been browsing and found the following http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/profiles/ so I checked it for Hawkwind references. However there isn't a profile and you have to look through the Top of the Pops section. Although an extensive write-up is available there, somebody should tell them that the Hawkwind biography is dreadfully out of date since they have effectively written the band off in 1992 and there are no albums available for on-line purchase after 'It is the Business of the Future.." What nonsense. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Aug 29 18:17:41 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:17:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: The power of three (was God Speed You Black Emperor) Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: K Henderson > >twice - the second time about treble the volume of the first (the > (BTW, treble is triple?) Treble is treble as in threefold. And, yes, although the same as triple (also threefold) it exists as a word in its own right from the Old French rather than directly from the Latin root.. Ah the problems of a living language in a country with a history of multiple invasions. I'm not sure how treble also came to be part of musical notation. Perhaps someone else can enlighten - without going too much off topic....... 8-) jill From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Aug 29 18:50:48 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:50:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind biog on the BBC web pages In-Reply-To: <00b101c130d6$9b24cf60$7f4b893e@jds> Message-ID: > the Hawkwind biography is dreadfully out of date since they have > effectively written the band off in 1992 Not bad, since most folk wrote them off around 1978 ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Aug 29 18:56:21 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:56:21 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor In-Reply-To: <00ab01c130d3$0f1ee440$7f4b893e@jds> Message-ID: > yeah, yeah. I've been re-reading the boc-l archives! I just hadn't > found, nor in honesty did I expect to find, any of their albums. Since I've been banging on about them they've become pretty well-known, and the CDs are easy to find. I can't take credit, I just spotted them early. :) > However I remembered your comments, which is why I bought a vinyl album > in Kent which meant I had to take and keep it safe on 3 long train > journeys and 2 London tube excursions over a distance of some 800 miles > or so! However it survived in one piece, I'm converted now and have > been hunting around for web pages with info. Interestingly BBC > on-line has quite a good write-up. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/profiles/print/gsybemperor.shtml That is pretty cool. The "car's on fire" sample, incidentally, is by Lee Marvin. How cool is that! I do have F#A#oo and SLOW RIOT FOR NEW ZERO KANADA on vinyl - my F#A#oo came with the penny that had been flattened on a railroad. How cool is that! ;) -- Andy ObCD: The Go-Go's - GOD BLESS THE GO-GO'S www.andygilham.com From swann at CUGC.ORG Wed Aug 29 19:43:30 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:43:30 -0400 Subject: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: <20010821141821.G70611-100000@obsd.xoboi.com>; from makila@IKI.FI on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:21:21PM +0300 Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:21:21PM +0300, Niko Makila wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, bart wrote: > > > I guess its some subconscious urge to congregate, maybe in celebration (?) of > > the list's first decade... > > It must be 10 years by now ... Steve ? Well, not to argue with Pops Shipley's assertion that he joined in in 1989, but here's a bit from the "history of BOC-L" post archive I put together a couple years back... This archive represents a little piece of BOC-L history - and of course, BOC-L's pre-history, as the "Blue Oyster Cult Discussion List" and then as the "Imaginitive Rock Discussion List". What can I say, sometimes this list has been as schizophrenic as the bands that we love. :-) The Blue Oyster Cult Discussion List was formed on September 22, 1990, when I posted a message to alt.rock-n-roll and alt.rock-n-roll.metal, asking if anyone would be interested in joining a private discussion list devoted to the imaginitive rock music of Blue Oyster Cult. I started getting responses within the hour. The funny thing is that a large portion of the people who answered the call within the first few days are here still 11 years later (or in some cases, recently returned). ;-) > I'd put my bet on 11 years. Hmm... there was no celebration. How > about making a ``20 years of BOC-L'' T-Shirt? If we start now, it > could be ready in time. > > Anyway, welcome back Guido and Craig! Yeah, I've been kind of in and out lately because the new job has been hectic, but it's *so* cool seeing faces from the "early days". Heck, I was even talking to Chris Vacano recently. Great to see you all again! -your former Humble Moderator ;-) Steve From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Wed Aug 29 19:52:09 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:52:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor In-Reply-To: <009e01c130d0$25821f20$7f4b893e@jds> Message-ID: Yeah, and they have a Web site, too... http://brainwashed.com/godspeed/ Downloaded a boatload of mp3's from them last night, but haven't had much of a chance to listen to them yet. (hey, Napster may be dead, but Audio Galaxy and Win-MX still live!! :-)). Ship > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Jill Strobridge > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:18 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor > > > definitely - although it lacks the delicacy and subtlety of the synth > element of Timewind because the band has 9 members and a much darker > and more orchestral sound. They are probably only Timewind in style > in that the tracks start quiet and lyrical or fairly minimalist then > slowly build up and evolve into a curtain, or perhaps a wash of intense > sound. Then when it stops at the end you go "Wow"! A bit like what > early Hawkwind did for me a long time ago! Anyhow there are some > really very good audio clips at the following web page address > > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/9325/godspeed/godspeed > .html > > which are definitely worth listening to as well as some reviews. > enjoy > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From swann at CUGC.ORG Wed Aug 29 19:59:27 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:59:27 -0400 Subject: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: <20010821190205.62104.qmail@web12704.mail.yahoo.com>; from spacewreck2001@YAHOO.COM on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 12:02:05PM -0700 Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 12:02:05PM -0700, Space Wreck wrote: > 45, wow, Craig, you're an even older phart than I realized! :) Welcome > back! Ow, that means I'm now as old as Craig was when we all used to rag on him for being so old! Argh! ;-) > I remember that intriguing sig, too - long before I had > ever heard Hawkwind. That, plus some comments on > alt.music.progressive from a guy who had a train drawn > in ASCII art in his sig (Bob Netherton, or something close > to that?), led me to try out Hawkwind. Mike Borella sent > me a tape. I bought a bunch of Ken Alexander's old HW CDs > when he was cleaning house. Ken turned me onto BOC-L, > and told me that it was all Steve Swann's fault. Ken > reviewed all the HW CDs that Ranjit Padmanabhan had in > his Progtron catalog. I still have all the Progtron > email catalogs. Heh, heh, heh. Ken was one of the people who used to grouse at me about him spending all his paycheck playing the Hawkwind catchup game (the game that no one can win). It's not my fault! I just said they were cool, I didn't say everyone had to own 300 albums by them... ;-) Steve From swann at CUGC.ORG Wed Aug 29 20:09:55 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 20:09:55 -0400 Subject: BOC: Yes In-Reply-To: <3B8CE89C.32577.14BAAE9@localhost>; from tojackso@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU on Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 01:05:31PM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 01:05:31PM -0400, Ted Jackson wrote: > On 29 Aug 2001, at 12:46, Brian Halligan wrote: > > > > Didn't know BOC was a role model for Yes. But I think Yes needs to > > take it a little further. > > > > "Sounds like something coming this way now! Sounds like...holy > > it's Starship Trooper!" > > > ROTFL! Oh my god, yes. I almost spat my tea all over the monitor when I read that! Brian, you are now totally forgiven for having that "tainted" last name. ;-) Steve From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Wed Aug 29 20:43:00 2001 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 20:43:00 -0400 Subject: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: <20010829194330.A20719@cugc.org> Message-ID: Well, Steve, y'know how it is, the mind is the second thing to go...What was the first??? ;-) I knew it was around the '89-90 timeframe, but wasn't exactly sure. It sure speaks loads for this list that there are so many people that have been here since the beginning and they are all still talking to each other ;-) Glad to see you are still here, Steve, and it's still all your fault!! (I use that exclamation for anything that goes wrong anymore, like the stock market, crop failure or heat waves...) NP: Was (Not Was) / homebrew CD of the first two. (Ten years ago, who woulda thunk that you could burn CD's at home and that CD media would be cheaper than cassette tapes?!?) "Pops" (still just Pops, not GrandPops, t'ank goodness!!) Shipley > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Stephen Swann > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:44 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here > before...) > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:21:21PM +0300, Niko Makila wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, bart wrote: > > > > > I guess its some subconscious urge to congregate, maybe in > celebration (?) of > > > the list's first decade... > > > It must be 10 years by now ... Steve ? > > Well, not to argue with Pops Shipley's assertion that he > joined in in 1989, but here's a bit from the "history of > BOC-L" post archive I put together a couple years back... > > This archive represents a little piece of BOC-L history - > and of course, BOC-L's pre-history, as the "Blue Oyster Cult > Discussion List" and then as the "Imaginitive Rock > Discussion List". What can I say, sometimes this list has > been as schizophrenic as the bands that we love. :-) > > The Blue Oyster Cult Discussion List was formed on September > 22, 1990, when I posted a message to alt.rock-n-roll and > alt.rock-n-roll.metal, asking if anyone would be interested > in joining a private discussion list devoted to the > imaginitive rock music of Blue Oyster Cult. I started > getting responses within the hour. > > The funny thing is that a large portion of the people who > answered the call within the first few days are here still > 11 years later (or in some cases, recently returned). ;-) > > > I'd put my bet on 11 years. Hmm... there was no celebration. How > > about making a ``20 years of BOC-L'' T-Shirt? If we start now, it > > could be ready in time. > > > > Anyway, welcome back Guido and Craig! > > Yeah, I've been kind of in and out lately because the new > job has been hectic, but it's *so* cool seeing faces from > the "early days". Heck, I was even talking to Chris Vacano > recently. > > Great to see you all again! > > -your former Humble Moderator ;-) > Steve > From nycademon at HOME.COM Wed Aug 29 21:13:43 2001 From: nycademon at HOME.COM (Guido N. Vacano) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:13:43 -0600 Subject: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: <20010829194330.A20719@cugc.org> Message-ID: I KNEW "Pops" Shipley joined after me, and I joined in 1990. Coincidentally, that's the same year I first encountered this thing we call the Internet. :-) Guido obConcert: California Guitar Trio with Tony Levin and Pat Mastelotto at the Boulder Theater last Friday. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Stephen Swann Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:44 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:21:21PM +0300, Niko Makila wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, bart wrote: > > > I guess its some subconscious urge to congregate, maybe in celebration (?) of > > the list's first decade... > > It must be 10 years by now ... Steve ? Well, not to argue with Pops Shipley's assertion that he joined in in 1989, but here's a bit from the "history of BOC-L" post archive I put together a couple years back... This archive represents a little piece of BOC-L history - and of course, BOC-L's pre-history, as the "Blue Oyster Cult Discussion List" and then as the "Imaginitive Rock Discussion List". What can I say, sometimes this list has been as schizophrenic as the bands that we love. :-) The Blue Oyster Cult Discussion List was formed on September 22, 1990, when I posted a message to alt.rock-n-roll and alt.rock-n-roll.metal, asking if anyone would be interested in joining a private discussion list devoted to the imaginitive rock music of Blue Oyster Cult. I started getting responses within the hour. The funny thing is that a large portion of the people who answered the call within the first few days are here still 11 years later (or in some cases, recently returned). ;-) > I'd put my bet on 11 years. Hmm... there was no celebration. How > about making a ``20 years of BOC-L'' T-Shirt? If we start now, it > could be ready in time. > > Anyway, welcome back Guido and Craig! Yeah, I've been kind of in and out lately because the new job has been hectic, but it's *so* cool seeing faces from the "early days". Heck, I was even talking to Chris Vacano recently. Great to see you all again! -your former Humble Moderator ;-) Steve From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Thu Aug 30 00:56:54 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:56:54 -0600 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor Message-ID: Jill, you are causing me to drool onto my chest. I shall have to sample this..... Thanks for the boost:) Pam Jill Strobridge wrote: > definitely - although it lacks the delicacy and subtlety of the synth > element of Timewind because the band has 9 members and a much darker > and more orchestral sound. They are probably only Timewind in style > in that the tracks start quiet and lyrical or fairly minimalist then > slowly build up and evolve into a curtain, or perhaps a wash of intense > sound. Then when it stops at the end you go "Wow"! A bit like what > early Hawkwind did for me a long time ago! Anyhow there are some > really very good audio clips at the following web page address > > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/9325/godspeed/godspeed > .html > > which are definitely worth listening to as well as some reviews. > enjoy > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton > > > Jill, > > Would you be referring to the Klause Schulze CD? You're making me > > exceedingly curious:) > > Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Message-ID: > Brian, you are now totally forgiven for having that "tainted" > last name. ;-) Thanks Steve. I thought about changing my name to Pearlman, but it just doesn't work with my red hair and Irish features. I have to make the most of what I've been given. ;-) Of course, I know deep in my heart that somehow the Bob Halligan songs are your fault. Brian From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 30 09:56:40 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:56:40 +0100 Subject: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: Stephen Swann's message of Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:59:27 -0400 Message-ID: Stephen Swann writes: > Heh, heh, heh. Ken was one of the people who used to grouse > at me about him spending all his paycheck playing the > Hawkwind catchup game (the game that no one can win). It's > not my fault! I just said they were cool, I didn't say > everyone had to own 300 albums by them... ;-) What??? You mean it's not compulsory??? *NOW* you tell me. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 30 09:58:31 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:58:31 +0100 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' In-Reply-To: Captain Bl@ck's message of Wed, 29 Aug 2001 20:46:30 +0100 Message-ID: Captain Bl at ck writes: > Perhaps the band should issue collectors picture cards, each with a > different (ex-)member of the band - > > GOTTA CATCH EM ALL! Bubbles Gum cards? FoFP From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Aug 30 10:19:29 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:19:29 -0400 Subject: NIK: '2001, A Space Rock Odyssey Live' and 'Transglobal F&R' Message-ID: If the cards only featured ex-members, they would have to keep stopping and starting the print run for Huw's!:). Say hi to him for me will you Captain and tell Kris that I would like to see the picture of Huw and I at Aldershot up on the website oneday! Regards, COLIN From swann at CUGC.ORG Thu Aug 30 10:34:40 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:34:40 -0400 Subject: boc-l decennary Re: First post (well, not really, been here before...) In-Reply-To: <200108301356.OAA14763@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from fofp@HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 02:56:40PM +0100 Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 02:56:40PM +0100, M Holmes wrote: > Stephen Swann writes: > > > Heh, heh, heh. Ken was one of the people who used to grouse > > at me about him spending all his paycheck playing the > > Hawkwind catchup game (the game that no one can win). It's > > not my fault! I just said they were cool, I didn't say > > everyone had to own 300 albums by them... ;-) > > What??? You mean it's not compulsory??? > > *NOW* you tell me. > > FoFP Well, I think you passed the 300 mark before our Kollektor Deprogramming therapists could get to you. We sent a team out to your place and they were never heard from again. Steve From swann at CUGC.ORG Thu Aug 30 10:37:43 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:37:43 -0400 Subject: BOC: Yes In-Reply-To: ; from blackblade@BHALLIGAN.COM on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 08:22:38AM -0400 Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 08:22:38AM -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: > > Brian, you are now totally forgiven for having that "tainted" > > last name. ;-) > > Thanks Steve. I thought about changing my name to Pearlman, but it just > doesn't work with my red hair and Irish features. I have to make the most of > what I've been given. ;-) > > Of course, I know deep in my heart that somehow the Bob Halligan songs are > your fault. > Brian That was low. ;) Steve From swann at CUGC.ORG Thu Aug 30 11:32:05 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:32:05 -0400 Subject: BOC: A new(!) cover of (DF)tR In-Reply-To: ; from blackblade@BHALLIGAN.COM on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:56:00PM -0400 Message-ID: On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:56:00PM -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: > Jason "Bolts" Scruton wrote: > > From Perfect Sound Forever Outsight colum: > > > > The Stingrays Surf Band > > Don't Fear the Reverb > > Slimstyle Records, 2820 E. 6th St., #220, Tucson, AZ 85716 > > http://www.slimstyle.com > > What's really impressive is that these kids are so young, and are actually > into Reaper. I wonder if they've heard Hot Rails to Hell? That's a surf > cover just waiting to happen...Maybe I should send the suggestion to Los > Straitjackets? ;-) I've always thought that Buck would do an *awesome* cover of Calvert's "Lay of the Surfers". The weakest part of that song is the guitar break, and Buck would take care of that in a hot second. ;-) Steve From swann at CUGC.ORG Thu Aug 30 14:24:57 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:24:57 -0400 Subject: HW: Re: OFF: Drummers In-Reply-To: <00dd01c0d8b7$90fba6c0$d026883e@jds>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Wed, May 09, 2001 at 07:40:47PM +0100 Message-ID: On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 07:40:47PM +0100, Jill Strobridge wrote: > I just wish someone would re-record Xenon Codex without the drum > machine (at least I'm sure it can't be Danny Thompson sounding that > mechanical!) You too, huh? That would be one of my favorite albums except for that godawful BANG-BANG-BANG drumming. Thank god he reined it in a little for the Lost Chronicles passage, or one of my fave HW instrumentals would be ruined. As it is, I can *only just* listen to Neon Skyline and Sword of the East, which are both great songs but BANG-BANG-BANG argh!! Steve From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Aug 30 15:49:02 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:49:02 -0400 Subject: BOC: Signed guitar raffle Message-ID: See: http://www.blueoystercult.com./Sam/Raffle.html > The raffle is being held to defray the medical expenses of long-time road crew > member Sam Judd, who is recovering from a very serious operation. The guitar is signed by BOC, Al, Joe, and Jon Harper of Harper Guitars. $50 gets you 1 in 300 odds. Brian P.S. Sorry if this has already been pointed out. My e-mail's been screwy lately. From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Aug 30 19:20:47 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:20:47 -0700 Subject: BOC: Review from Phoenix New Times Message-ID: http://phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2001-08-30/recordings.html 08/30/2001 Stalk-Forrest Group, Blue ?yster Cult St.Ceilia: The Elektra Recordings (Rhino Handmade),Blue ?yster Cult Tranny and Mutation Secret Treaties Agents of Fortune (Columbia/Legacy), Curse of the Hidden Mirror (CMC International) By Fred Mills Fall, '76: Blue ?yster Cult is sitting pretty in the Top 20 with "(Don't Fear) the Reaper." The brainy Long Island quintet once pitched somewhat inaccurately to consumers as "the American Black Sabbath" has already consolidated a formidable live reputation and is now enjoying the fruits of nearly a decade of dues-paying. "Reaper," from the just-released fifth album Agents of Fortune, will ultimately land BOC a permanent spot in classic-rock FM heaven. How'd BOC get there? The group's beginnings are expertly unraveled in the copious liner notes to the Stalk-Forrest Group's St. Cecilia: The Elektra Recordings, issued by Rhino's Internet-only, mail-order imprint, Handmade. Under the original name Soft White Underbelly, the nascent BOC, fresh from the underground gig circuit at and around New York's Stony Brook University, snagged a deal with Elektra Records in '68. Two years and a name change to Stalk-Forrest Group later, the band had been dropped by the label, with only a promo radio 45 -- "What Is Quicksand?" b/w "Arthur Comics" -- and an unreleased album to show for its efforts, leaving Eric Bloom (vocals/guitar), Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser (guitar/vocals), Allen Lanier (keyboards/guitar/vocals), Albert Bouchard (drums) and Joe Bouchard (bass) in a frustrating limbo. The resurrection of St. Cecilia offers two looks at that album, its first nine tunes comprising the mooted "official" version assembled during the spring of 1970, with the remainder culled from Elektra-rejected material recorded six months prior. Hindsight being 20/20, it's still hard to see why S-FG got the ax. "I'm on the Lamb but I Ain't No Sheep," "Donovan's Monkey" and "Arthur Comics," with their taut neo-boogie riffs and unique melodic schemata, signpost classic BOC-to-come (in fact, "Lamb" will rear its head again -- twice, redone for Blue ?yster Cult, then overhauled and renamed "The Red & the Black" on the band's sophomore effort). "A Fact About Sneakers" and the title track, too, both have complex, neo-psychedelic, suite-like arrangements not unlike some of BOC's more elegant space ballads; listen closely and you'll detect snatches of guitar themes that resurface in later songs. Pop-culture obsessives take note of the group's lyrics: They were written by legendary rock critic Richard Meltzer (a Stony Brook buddy of the band) and manager/producer/svengali Sandy Pearlman, ranging from the poetic and fantasy-strewn (Pearlman's) to the so-dumb-they're-perfect-for-rock (Meltzer's "Sneakers" reads in part, "With a shoe-shine girl/In a shoe- shining kit/Get a shoe shined, hey hey man/While you're watching some tit"). Following the Elektra debacle, Pearlman got Stalk-Forrest an audition with Columbia's Clive Davis, who soon tendered a contract to the band now rechristened Blue ?yster Cult. And despite common wisdom that says the group was steered in an ostensibly "heavy metal" (a term Pearlman claims he coined) direction, the band's first three albums can now be viewed as more of a logical stylistic progression from the S-FG days, although the group's leather/chrome/biker appearance did suggest -- BOC's trademark surreal musical/lyrical imagery aside -- a clear-cut alliance with the harder rocking elements of '70s audiences. Recently remastered by Columbia/Legacy, that early brace of BOC albums (1972's Blue ?yster Cult, '73's Tyranny and Mutation, '74's Secret Treaties) forms a concise triad that still holds up even after nearly three decades. While the bonehead-rawk moment does interrupt the flow somewhat -- the debut's over-the-top "Cities on Flame With Rock and Roll" and Tyranny and Mutation's boogiecentric "Hot Rails to Hell," for example -- the subtle/supple psychedelic flourishes, unusual vocal harmonies and inventive arrangements prove the band ahead of its time. Highlights range from the debut's moody, melodic ballad "Then Came the Last Days of May," the effects-strewn "Workshop of the Telescopes" and the creepy piano and death-waltz minor chords of Meltzer's "She's As Beautiful As a Foot"; to the T. Rex-turns-protopunk "O.D.'d on Life Itself" and the subversively catchy "Mistress of the Salmon Salt (Quicklime Girl)" from Tyranny; to the Patti Smith-penned freak anthem "Career of Evil" and the epic, seamlessly segued "Harvester of Eyes"/"Flaming Telepaths"/"Astronomy" sci-fi trilogy from Secret Treaties. The band was fearless in the studio, and with four talented songwriters, both the gritty-throated Bloom and the silkier Roeser swapping lead-vocal chores at will, and a melodic hard-rock style that employed diverse keyboard and guitar textures without succumbing to the era's wank-off/virtuoso Prog excess, BOC was also one of the best American bands of the '70s. Back to "Reaper": Unmistakable from the very millisecond that opening riff commences, it is, as BOC reissue liner notes man Lenny Kaye points out, "an atmosphere of sound . . . all unwind, each symphonic section inevitable. It has no choice but to be a hit." The song drop-kicked the Agents of Fortune album onto the charts, too. The overall sound of the LP is slicker than its predecessors -- front-loaded with synthesizers, horn charts courtesy of the Brecker Brothers -- but its charisma remains undeniable. Smith, Lanier's girlfriend, earns a new pair of songwriting credits, along with one as co-vocalist on the thumpingly psychedelic "The Revenge of Vera Gemini," while "E.T.I." (Extra Terrestrial Intelligence)" is another finely wound interplanetary anthem. And the crunching "This Ain't the Summer of Love" would yield a second, enduring radio hit for the band. Soon enough other successes would be mounted, including the monolithic "Godzilla" and the MTV hit "Burning for You." But that's another story. Consumer-wise, as per protocol, Legacy has added several worthy bonus tracks to each reissue. Those on the debut are perhaps the most interesting as they come from some of the same pre-BOC sessions that make up the second segment of Rhino's St. Cecilia reissue (there's no overlap). Tyranny and Treaties spotlight various session outtakes (such as a studio version of longtime concert fave "Buck's Boogie"), non-LP singles tracks (a smoking cover of "Born to Be Wild"), and unreleased live material. Agents includes several demos, including Roeser's original four-track home recording of "Reaper," and a Lanier demo co-written with poet-rocker Jim Carroll, "Dance the Night Away" (Carroll later recorded his own version). In the meantime, there's an album of all-new material out on the CMC International label. There have been numerous rhythm section changes over the years (the Bouchard brothers are long gone -- currently Danny Miranda and Bobby Rondinelli have the bass and drums gig) as well as intermittent lean times (1994's Cult Classic found BOC rerecording tunes from its '70s heyday). But even if Curse of the Hidden Mirror can't hold a candle to the first four studio albums, it is a solid effort. Curse kicks off with the AC/DC-styled riff-monster "Dance on Stilts," and a few tracks later the first single, "Pocket," cues up, a thumping, melodic rocker that, pardon the clich?, is "classic BOC-esque." A couple of numbers do have an irredeemably syrupy '80s-mainstream feel, and the era of provocative/fantastical song-titling seems to be long buried in the face of clich?s like "Eye of the Hurricane" and "I Just Like to Be Bad." That said, not only is the edgy, six-minute "Stone of Love" one of the best songs here, it bears an unexpected (and undated) Meltzer-Roeser songwriting credit. Another promising sign: Manic cyberpunk author (and former punk singer) John Shirley's name is listed in eight of the 11 song credits, stepping into the old Pearlman-Meltzer lyrics role. And given that the album title itself was nicked from an ancient Stalk-Forrest Group song, "Curse of the Hidden Mirrors," these bringing-things-full-circle touches have a nice feel if you're a fan from back in the day. Word has it that BOC will be touring extensively to promote Curse, so as the saying goes, expect once again to see cities on flame with . . . aw, you know. From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Aug 30 22:57:29 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:57:29 -0500 Subject: OFF: Folklore provides fanciful fables of fairies and fungi to explain mysterious rings , GazetteExtra, Janesville, Wisconsin, USA Message-ID: http://www.janesvillegazette.com/mushrooms083001.html From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Aug 31 03:05:09 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:05:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: Brussels-Brugse travel Message-ID: Help! Anyone on the list (especially Belgian friends) know the fastest connection from Brussels to Brugse (Brugge)? This is a bit urgent. Dave From coral at APORT.RU Fri Aug 31 04:56:50 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:56:50 +0400 Subject: OFF: Harvey Bainbridge cds Message-ID: Hello! I'm curious what cds by Harvey are still available for purchase or all deleted? regards, Alice From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Aug 31 05:35:06 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:35:06 -0400 Subject: HW: Motorhead Message-ID: The good news to all those in the UK is that the awaited TV series 'Roadies' starts next week. UK Horizons Monday 11.30pm. I believe 12 x 30 minute programmes all about...... Roadies!!!! Much of it filmed on the last Motorhead tour in the UK back in May. Most, if not all, of the 'head crew will be featured, theme tune should be 'We Are The R C...' , and the band I think get in on the act too!!! Be warned though - it's not ALL about Motorhead I don't think. http://www.the-rocker.co.uk New Census of Hallucinations Out Now!! From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Aug 31 07:17:20 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:17:20 EDT Subject: OFF: Brussels-Brugse travel In-Reply-To: <000901c131eb$46d00cc0$903e883e@default> Message-ID: On 31 Aug 2001, at 8:05, dave hall wrote: > Help! Anyone on the list (especially Belgian friends) know the fastest > connection from Brussels to Brugse (Brugge)? This is a bit urgent. > There's a train every hour until about 9 or 10 o'clock at night. Actually may be more than one train an hour during the business day. It isn't a long trip--I'd say under an hour... theo From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Aug 31 09:00:37 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:00:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: Harvey Bainbridge cds Message-ID: The two CDs on Taste, "Red Shift" and "Interstellar Chaos", are, I believe, long deleted but the one from the SD2000 tour is still available. Regards, COLIN From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Aug 31 09:36:02 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:36:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dee is Christina - page of Proof!!! Message-ID: http://www.deeischristina.com/proof.htm From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Aug 31 10:10:16 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:10:16 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dee is Christina - page of Proof!!! In-Reply-To: <3B8F92C2.A0F33E9E@execpc.com> Message-ID: Karen, that was hysterical! Thank you! :-) Brian NP> Call and Response "Call and Response" > http://www.deeischristina.com/proof.htm From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Aug 31 10:37:25 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:37:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Strokes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For anyone who loves the Stooges, MC5 and garage rock in general, I'd just like to say that the Strokes album rocks like the proverbial bastard. :-) (Andy Gil - get out and buy it!!!) Cheers, Rich. NP: The Strokes - Is This It ObCD: The Strokes - Is This It From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Aug 31 10:49:51 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:49:51 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Strokes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > (Andy Gil - get out and buy it!!!) OK, OK, I'll give it a try! And I though I was the trendy one around here ;) But you have to get GOD BLESS THE GO-GO'S in return! ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Aug 31 10:58:58 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:58:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Strokes / Go-Go's / HMHB In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If they've got it in Beggars Banquet in Putney. They STILL haven't got HMHB's Editor's Recommendation. I'm going to have to go to V***in in town tomorrow. (I suppose I could get "God Bless..." while I'm there... :-) (Get Editor's Recommendation too!) :-) Cheers, Rich. > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Andy Gilham > Sent: 31 August 2001 15:50 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: The Strokes > > > > (Andy Gil - get out and buy it!!!) > > OK, OK, I'll give it a try! And I though I was the trendy one around here > ;) > > But you have to get GOD BLESS THE GO-GO'S in return! ;) > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Aug 31 12:28:44 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:28:44 +0100 Subject: Very OFF: weird shit In-Reply-To: <200106191033.LAA08185@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, M Holmes wrote: > Channel 5 here had one of those "SF and Aliens" nights where they show > cheesy SF films (Close Encounters) and even cheesier "documentaries" > about aliens, Roswell, and how the yanks faked the Moon landings. > > Still, being a sucker for cheesy SF and liking a laugh at conspiracy > theories, I naturally watched some of this. > > So imagine my surprise when video was shown of a "UFO" over Phoenix a > few years back and I realised that this is the same damn thing I saw on > the west coast of Scotland a couple of years ago and could never really > figure out what the hell it was (not of course that the documentary had > anything more to offer than that it might be extraterrestrial visitors). > > I can already sense the guffaws rising in throats. I'd point out that > those who know me well realise that I'm a pretty extreme rationalist and > that I know enough about astronomy to both know what I'm looking at in > the sky, and just how difficult interstellar logistics would be. > > I also know that I saw something that isn't part of the usual panoply of > things seen in the sky at night. IMHO it's some sort of military > hardware that they don't want folks to know about (the west coast of > Scotland isn't exactly densely populated). Admittedly flying it over > Phoenix for a few hundred people to watch seems at odds with this. > > So on the plus side, I'm not the only person who's ever seen this thing. > On the minus side, a number of the other folks are fully fledged nuts. > It's kind of annoying when I had a perfectly workable skeptical gig > going and I'd just about persuaded myself that I saw a line of NOSS > satellites. For what it's worth, the west coast of Scotland is nice and close to the operating area of RAF Machrihanish (sp?). I've never seen anything official about what the place is used for but it's got a perimeter miles wide and is more or less the RAF equivalent of Edwards AFB in the US. One of the things I've seen it suggested that goes on up there is flights of a US reconnaissance birdy called Aurora, which was (not that it exists, indeed its existence has been officially denied just like the Stealth Fighter's) slated to replace the SR-71A Blackbird. No-one knows what the thing looks like but it's supposed to be capable of Mach 4 plus. The support for this is that air traffic controllers in Scotland have occasionally told papers/scrappily-printed 'zines that they've picked up blips doing that sort of speed, in non-ballistis trajectories and so forth. The SR-71A went back into service not so very long after I first read this but whatever the truth about the Aurora, it's most definitely a prime candidate area for top secret military aircraft testing. Yours, Jon n/p: Disarray - `Shrieking Monster Who Could Not Die' -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Aug 31 12:37:42 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:37:42 +0100 Subject: Woronzow News, Tony Hill, High Tide In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010619193353.02241010@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > Speaking of High Tide: I saw both "Sea Shanties" and "High Tide" in a music > store the other day. I nearly bought both of them, but decided against when > I saw those Neu! remasters. > But as I might buy them the next time, I'm interested what I have to expect > from High Tide. It should be great music, with both Simon House and Pete > Pavli, but I haven't heard any songs by HT yet. So anyone here, who could > tell me what HT sound like? I've tended to describe those two albums as `doom folk' :-) Heavy, oppressive-sounding guitar-and-violin duelling; Tony Hill is an inspired guitarist, he as got better but even in 1969 and 1970 he was still pretty bloody good, and doesn't play like anyone else I've heard. Simon plays much more like a fiddler than he did with Hawkwind but that means there's more of it. There are some *killer* riffs. The song structures are complex, and none come in at less than 5 minutes really. _High Tide_ has a 14-minute track called `Saneonymous' which is really quite hard work to get through in the same way as a good doom record is, it presses down on you. Tony Hill has the gloomiest of voices and the lyrics are poetic but extremely dark and not a little twisted. I don't really make anything of Pete Pavli's contribution but that only means it isn't as stand-out as the two leaders. Definitely definitely get these albums, if you can find the two-on-one CD I have get that as there's no remastering on the single-disc reissues so it's just a more expensive way of getting the same stuff. But do not expect it to cheer you up. Yours, Jon n/p: Disarray - `Access to Fools' -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Aug 31 13:00:32 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:00:32 EDT Subject: Very OFF: weird shit Message-ID: ....."frozen in ice 2 million BC atomic testing set him free the papers said it was all a lie shrieking monster who could not die (x3) made short work out of the eastern bloc and crossing the ocean was a 10-minute walk he was swatting those fighter planes out of the sky shrieking monster who could not die (x3) etc etc. 1986. for m'sieu danzig "<>" From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Aug 31 16:17:05 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 21:17:05 +0100 Subject: HW: 1972 on VH1 Message-ID: This is probably a bit late but I'm watching VH1 on cable TV at the moment and they are doing a retrospective on 1972 with news events and social commentary on what was going on behind the music and bands in the charts at that time. Dunno if Hawkwind will get a look in but it'll be interesting to see. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Aug 31 17:02:42 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:02:42 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 8/25/01 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck NOTE: I also recommend you stay tuned for Mizzen's program "Audio Alchemy", which airs every Saturday evening after mine, from 8-11pm PST...if you dare... 8/25 1.Bablicon-- "An Orange Moon" (The Orange Tapered Moon; Mizra Records) 2.Defender-- "Zipcode" (CD-R) 3.Matmos-- "Despite its Aesthetic Advances..." (I am a Photographer comp; Plain Recordings) 4.Om Attack-- "Harmonic" (Heavy Rescue; Innerspace Records) 5.Cosmic Couriers-- "DAT Loop" (Other Places; Hypnotic/Cleopatra Records) 6.Nucleon-- "Green Acid" (Strange Daze '97 comp; Pangea Productions) 7.Alien Planetscapes-- "Prince Chubbs" (Turn Century Turn comp; Mother West Records) 8.Red Giant-- "Kill for Condors" (Ultra-Magnetic Glowing Sound; MIA/Tee Pee Records) 9.Quarkspace-- "Outerspace Highway" (Hidden Moon; Eternity's Jest Records) 10.JFK Jr. Royal Airforce-- "Invisible World" (ST'd; Slutfish Records) 11.Dreampipe-- "East of Pizza" (Nursery Fruit History EP; Orange Entropy Records) 12.Cul de Sac-- "Graveyard for Robots" (I Don't Want to Go to Bed; Thirsty Ear Records) 13.Spacious Mind-- "Your Mind and Mine" (Sleep Eyes and Butterflies; Wild Places Records) 14.Pseudo Sun-- "The Future Rears its Ugly Head" (Future Memoirs) 15.Darxtar-- "Valley of Time" (Daybreak; SBM Records) 16.Dark Sun-- "Astral Magic" (Feed Your Mind; Metamorphos Records) 17.Cosmic Jokers-- "Galactic Joke" (ST'd; Ohr/Spalax Records) 18.Brainticket-- "Feel the Wind Blow" (Psychonaut; Bellaphone Records) 19.F/i-- title-track (Helioscopium; Ceres Records) 20.Angelo Badalamenti-- "Nightlife in Twin Peaks" (Twin Peaks Series Soundtrack; WEA/Warner Bros) 21.Bablicon-- "An Orange Pumpkin Glowing Moon Ensemble" (The Orange Tapered Moon) thanks, Chuck From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Fri Aug 31 19:44:03 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:44:03 -0700 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor Message-ID: Well, the previous discussion regarding GYBE was interesting, but this time 'round it really sparked my interest to the point that I ventured out yesterday to see what I could find. There's the bin, oh no! Empty! Hmmm... let's check the used section. Had I not already visited the band's website I never would have recognized it, but there sat a copy of Zero Riot... Wow. Wow. Wow. I want more. Also, because I'd been to the website, my eye was caught by a copy of Shalabi Effect, a related band. As the advert tag reads - "a staggering 131 minute 2CD blowout!" "A blend of middle-eastern influenced folk with spacey electronics and psychedelic music." If you like the less rock-sounding Ozrics stuff, you'll love this. I dunno about 'folk', but there's lots of middle-eastern drumming and modal influences, and tons of spaciness and 'psych'. Plus, you can't go wrong with the Hubble photo of the Eagle Nebula as your album cover..... (also seen as the cover of the debut by Nebelnest, an excellent French band in the vein of Red-era Crimson.) scorch From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Aug 31 20:53:21 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 01:53:21 +0100 Subject: OFF: Beer Powered Radio Frenzy - A plea Message-ID: OK guys an' gals (jingle jingle jew'l'ry jew'lry) As some of you are aware, I run a radio station on Live365.com. Funnily enough it's called Beer Powered Radio Frenzy. Live365.com have recently announced that they're going to start charging for people to run their (previously free) radio stations. At the moment I'm not in danger of getting charged, but I think I might be soon. If anyone's sitting at home or at work, I'd really appreciate you tuning your soundcard into http://www.live365.com/stations/155142 . There's a link on that page to the actual radio station. I suppose you want to know what's on it before you tune in... Well, I'm currently listening to "John Kettley Is A Weatherman" by Tribe Of Toffs... It's music to make you smile, because I'm sick of miserable music. There's Hawkwind (of course), BOC (naturally), a load of surf music, Crass, some comedy, some really cheesy disco (The Reynolds Girls - "I'd Rather Jack..."), some Seventies lounge, Attilla The Stockbroker, some serious metal, a load of punk, punk covers, loads of 60s garage, 50's rock 'n' roll, anything with Lemmy, surf music... Please listen in - I need the figures to be able to keep broadcasting. Anyone who wants their stuff playing on BRPF - contact me on the usual address.... (SLOJTERDIJK - are you listening?) :-) Cheers, Rich. Now Playing: Kevin Bloody Wilson: Stick That F***ing Phone Up Your F***ing Arse From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Aug 31 21:06:20 2001 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 02:06:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Beer Powered Radio Frenzy - A plea Message-ID: Currently playing: The Icicle Works - Understanding Jane And If that's not worth tuning in for, I don't know what is. Cheers, Rich. > OK guys an' gals (jingle jingle jew'l'ry jew'lry) > > As some of you are aware, I run a radio station on Live365.com. Funnily > enough it's called Beer Powered Radio Frenzy. > > Live365.com have recently announced that they're going to start charging for > people to run their (previously free) radio stations. At the moment I'm not > in danger of getting charged, but I think I might be soon. If anyone's > sitting at home or at work, I'd really appreciate you tuning your soundcard > into http://www.live365.com/stations/155142 . There's a link on that page > to the actual radio station. > > I suppose you want to know what's on it before you tune in... > > Well, I'm currently listening to "John Kettley Is A Weatherman" by Tribe Of > Toffs... > > It's music to make you smile, because I'm sick of miserable music. There's > Hawkwind (of course), BOC (naturally), a load of surf music, Crass, some > comedy, some really cheesy disco (The Reynolds Girls - "I'd Rather > Jack..."), some Seventies lounge, Attilla The Stockbroker, some serious > metal, a load of punk, punk covers, loads of 60s garage, 50's rock 'n' roll, > anything with Lemmy, surf music... > > Please listen in - I need the figures to be able to keep broadcasting. > > Anyone who wants their stuff playing on BRPF - contact me on the usual > address.... (SLOJTERDIJK - are you listening?) :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > Now Playing: Kevin Bloody Wilson: Stick That F***ing Phone Up Your F***ing > Arse > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Aug 11 08:51:23 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 07:51:23 -0500 Subject: HW: Where is everyone? Message-ID: Is it just me or is this the slowest boc-l has ever been? Is it tour exhaustion? Is everyone having a major lurking session? Heh...I'm stuck in bed with the flu, humour me, lets have some messages other than virus discussion. Rich W