From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sun Apr 1 00:14:12 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:14:12 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind a big thankyou In-Reply-To: <000a01c0b9f9$f9910540$9fcd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: :Subject: Hawkwind a big thankyou : :A huge THANKYOU to: : :RikRx :Kris Tait :Dave Brock :Alan Davey :Richard Chadwick :Ron Tree :Jeremy Richards :Arin Komins :and all you fellow chatters at the IRC link up last night (Friday) : :Extra special thanks to the BAND for taking the time, after rehearsal, to answer our questions!!! :As fast and furious, at times, as they were!!! : :Extra special thanks to Kris & Rik for the organisation : :Extra special thanks to Arin Komins for keeping us all in line!! :>) : heh. Next time, maybe I'll get the velvet whip ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 1 00:16:46 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:46:46 +0930 Subject: hawkwind Message-ID: Well Im off to my local music store with my Hawkwind petition to get some local interest in an ADELAIDE HAWKWIND concert!!! With my long curly hair blowing in the wind, big grin and the sounds of madness eminating from the tape deck, in my little ole shit box of a car, I did speed off in a blur of light. Well, almost! Part one in my EPIC journey of Time and Space..... 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Well done Arin for restoring some order in the ranks. next time -- moderation! and I promise I'll come up with a decent question, rather than sitting on the sidelines, like I do ordinarily :-( Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sun Apr 1 00:21:53 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:21:53 -0600 Subject: heading out to CA Message-ID: Hey gang, I'm heading out to CA next week. Any bocl'ers in town (I'll be in Santa Clara for Apachecon) want to get together? Doug -- we still on for next Saturday? Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 1 01:08:44 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:38:44 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind a big thankyou Message-ID: > heh. > > Next time, maybe I'll get the velvet whip ;-) > > Arin Promises - promises LOL Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind a big thankyou > On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: > > :Subject: Hawkwind a big thankyou > : > :A huge THANKYOU to: > : > :RikRx > :Kris Tait > :Dave Brock > :Alan Davey > :Richard Chadwick > :Ron Tree > :Jeremy Richards > :Arin Komins > :and all you fellow chatters at the IRC link up last night (Friday) > : > :Extra special thanks to the BAND for taking the time, after rehearsal, to answer our questions!!! > :As fast and furious, at times, as they were!!! > : > :Extra special thanks to Kris & Rik for the organisation > : > :Extra special thanks to Arin Komins for keeping us all in line!! :>) > : > > heh. > > Next time, maybe I'll get the velvet whip ;-) > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Apr 1 03:18:37 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Late Night) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 01:18:37 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind :(OFF) chat dissaray proper In-Reply-To: <005501c0ba72$53aa9460$fecb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: My Australian counterpart poster and friend exclaimed firmly with foot down: " heh. Next time, maybe I'll get the velvet whip ;-) Arin Promises - promises LOL Mb" and I change it into and add: "wherever mankind flies in the face of chaos lair, there is a need for the KISS of the VELVET WHIP.... you whip out the wand of "twatever" on those who would bestow order upon you, lord Michael..... From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 1 03:58:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:28:45 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind :(OFF) chat dissaray proper Message-ID: likewise Sir MikeColeman likwise Since this is an "off" message may I add; my bands: Daleth Alien Dream Electric Tepee will all be LIVE and FUNKY on Saturday 28th April 2001 1pm - 4pm Its an outdoor free concert for all - complete with acrobats - lion tamers, orangatans , liveley sloths...... Well....... there will be music, eats & drinks anyway But best of all I'll be there!!!!! LOL-a-m >From the ashes of chaos - the phoenix arose. Wings of flawless diamond, created from the fiery heat of Hell. Claws of the finest ruby and eyes of sparkling amber unmatched in brilliance and of a qualiity never before seen, this day. Rising, higher and higher into the dawns first rays of morning. To a new day. To catch the suns energy and invent the future once more. Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Late Night To: Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind :(OFF) chat dissaray proper > My Australian counterpart poster and friend exclaimed firmly with foot down: > > " heh. > > Next time, maybe I'll get the velvet whip ;-) > > Arin > > Promises - promises LOL > > Mb" > > > and I change it into and add: "wherever mankind flies in the face of chaos > lair, there is a need for the KISS of the VELVET WHIP.... > > you whip out the wand of "twatever" on those who would bestow order upon > you, lord Michael..... From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 1 04:19:49 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:49:49 +0930 Subject: hawkwind t shirts Message-ID: Hi John Because all the items I get are not in bulk it costs a little more The shirt I made for myself is an iron on transfer (one on front and one on the back - art as seen on the Chronicle Of the Black sword studio album - booklet) I can get the shirt for $10.95 (Long or short sleeve - Black, white or grey) mine is grey and I think it looks cool.... The iron on trasnsfers cost : White shirt (5 transfers $16) ($5 per shirt) Black or dark shirts ( 3 transfers $20) ($12 per shirt) I'd guess the printing cost would be around $5 a shirt Postage - I'd have to enquire ($??) If you are keen and good with an iron and want to use your own shirt I could send you the printed transfers and the instructions : thus saving on some postage Otherwise I can do the lot for you ( as a fellow fan ) @ the cost of the items required. All above are Australian Dollars - so if you check out the exchange rate US & UK your dollars /pounds will go alot further..... Your serve! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 7:47 AM Subject: Re: hawkwind t shirts *jealous* I don't suppose you'd want to sell one of those shirts to me would you? John Majka jmajka2 at home.com Just made a nifty Chronicle of the Black sword tshirt for myself from the album artwork Does anyone make or sell them anywhere in the world? Curious Mb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sun Apr 1 04:56:57 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 09:56:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Wht, why, why, hasn't Dick's work inspired more music? Does the > Bladerunner soundtrack count? Do we care? I must start reading his work in > order in a dedicated fashion again and then pen a vast number of > lyrics. Yours, Well, there's a whole opera based on VALIS... composer's name escapes me right now though. Stu Hamm did an album called RADIO FREE ALBEMUTH. I'm sure there's loads more. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Apr 1 11:19:40 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:19:40 +0100 Subject: ALDERSHOT NOW! Message-ID: For all those attending tonights Hawkwind gig......we salute you. Off to see the best band in the cosmos......Gary & Anna. 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Enjoy tonight for us. Love, Eli and Paula In a message dated 4/1/01 10:19:28 AM, cerberus at avon666.freeserve.co.uk writes: << For all those attending tonights Hawkwind gig......we salute you. Off to see the best band in the cosmos......Gary & Anna. Eli, Paula and Mike, you are with us in spirit. >> From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sun Apr 1 12:40:25 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:40:25 -0400 Subject: Sloterdijk seeks date(s) in KY, OH WV, VA, PA, NY, and New England Message-ID: Hello friends, Sloterdijk is beginning to book dates for our "Uranium Zone" tour, which will support the release of the new album, also titled "Uranium Zone". We are now looking for a date or dates in Kentucky, West Virginia, Ohio/western Pennsylvania, New York state, and New England; Current Open Calendar is: May 11th,12th,13th, 18th, & 19th Also: August 20th-25th If you are interested in helping us book a show in your town or with your band please contact us directly at: SLOTERDIJK at webtv.net For additional info regarding Sloterdijk, check the following URLS: For live streaming video: ( This footage was shot August 7th, 2000, at "The Knitting Factory", New York City) www.mp3.com/stations/Zombie Free MP3 files from the "Integration" CD, plus band bio: www.mp3.com/sloterdijk For reviews of the "Integration CD: www.pschedelic-music.de ( select sloterdijk from band list) www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk ( search index for sloterdijk) For Lollipop Shop Records, Berlin, Germany: www.lollipopshop.de Distributed worldwide via: Swamproom Records at: www.swamproom.de For press releases: www.mi2n.com ( search index for sloterdijk) For The Hamburg Hawkfan site: www.hawkfans.purespace.de www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sun Apr 1 14:19:12 2001 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (blueskin69) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:19:12 +0100 Subject: HW Aldershot Message-ID: To all attending the Aldershot gig tonight if it's anything like last week at Croydon your in for a fucking great gig, to all that were at Croydon you know what i mean. Have a good one for me, could not get more time off work to travel down from scotland for this one i think for myself next one will be sometime in the summer hopefully the Rock n Blues at Pentrich. Anyway once again have a blinder tonight. Cheers. Gordon. From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Sun Apr 1 17:48:41 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:48:41 -0700 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: Have you tried the Hobbs End station? scorch From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Apr 1 19:58:44 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:58:44 +0100 Subject: top five hawk albums In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > Ah, I didn't realise we could vote for non-existent CDs. In which case I'd > like to vote for the "Heroes Of The Astral Bong" box-set, that wonderful > recording of the legendary jam sessions featuring (amongst others) the > Hawks, Can, Jimi Hendrix and J.S.Bach, recorded in quadrophonic audio- > visual sensurround at the Festival At The End Of Time. Bob Calvert's > rendition of 'Purple Haze' is among the more memorably surreal moments, > and the packaging includes a (highly collectible) miniature drug cabinet to > aid enjoyment. > > In fact it's almost as good as 'Space Ritual'. But does the cabinet have a key? This could be important. If not, who's got it? Yours, Jon ObTape: Steve Hillage - _Fish Rising_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Apr 1 20:03:13 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:03:13 +0100 Subject: NIK:MANDRAGORA LIGHTSHOW SOCIETY/NIK TURNER In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Mike Coleman wrote: > The title to the Mandragora Lightshow Society is: > > Beyond The Mushroom Gates....... > > there you are Jon!!! Cheers Mike. So added to the files. At some point I'll get round to updating the HTML versions too. May have some unexpected free time if these elections keep receding at this rate... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Apr 1 20:30:33 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Ekim Nameloc) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:30:33 -0600 Subject: (OFF) totally off...mikes mistakes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: dear BOCL minds... left the other list...... I got in trouble... hope I won't annoy too many if I hang around here a while... positive wishes.. mike coleman PS..if I end up gone from here as well, any are welcome to retain my email, and see if my liver burst yet or not! PEACE + I'm truly sorry I breached the privacy act (to anyone I ever have) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Apr 1 20:28:54 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:28:54 +0100 Subject: spacebrock In-Reply-To: <02aa01c0afc6$a9c29160$ccb53bcb@xl5jji166w6xlq> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, William Duffy wrote: > I have a question about it as well. Are the versions of Lifeform & Some > People Never Die the same as the original Hawkwind versions (they sound it)? > Also, Kauai & Earth Calling seem shorter than the versions on Distant > Horizons & The Remix Project CD's. Are they the same but shorter? As far as I can tell the first two tracks are the same. I thought at first there was an extra synth part on `Some People Never Die' but I can't hear it now. Is the `Earth Calling' from somewhere else too? I hadn't gathered that. Who remixed it then? `Kauai' as far as I can tell differs only in length, and that only because it's been cut out of the continuous sequence it was part of on _Distant Horizons_. I should also say that I claimed `Burn Me Up' had had extra bits added to it but I'm no longer sure about that. The `find the right way' sample at least is in the _Elf & The Hawk_ version if only once. I need to play them back to back again with a notepad and I can't quite be bothered. Does anyone know when the track dates from originally? Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Apr 1 20:48:20 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:48:20 +0100 Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? In-Reply-To: <31.11faa0c7.27e70e86@aol.com> Message-ID: Defining space-rock... heh heh, a while back I got a message passed on to me from a guy in New Zealand who was asking for just that for some music project he was doing at school. Back then I had more time on my hands so I'll reproduce what I wrote and see if anyone agrees/disagrees... My own personal take on it only of course: "It's called space-rock because it generally has a science or sci-fi inspiration, because it uses space-age technology in the sounds (I think it's fair to say we're not really in the space age anymore), and because it is drawn-out and ambient in a way that's best described as spacey or spaced-out (the best stuff is of course both... 'Space is Deep'). The other explanation is of course that it sounds like a Saturn Five taking off (cue 'Born To Go' on stereo...) It's underground music. There is no such thing as establishment space-rock, it's not popular enough to be mainstream, and so it can afford to remain anti-establishment. It tends therefore to take on an aspect of social commentary. Hawkwind went through a distinct transition: from "Let's all just get into space man!" to "Life on earth needs some serious attention". Probably largely Calvert's fault, but Brock does it too nowadays. Anyway. Lyrical, more difficult. Long technical words favoured. Subjects generally space-related, but sword and sorcery fantasy stuff also acceptable fare. Of course, you can write anything you like and call it space-rock. Drugs don't have to be involved, but do enliven it sometimes. And altered awareness is definitely a characteristic of the genre. Not for nothing did Dave Brock use to mix Hawkwind's albums while tripping - not only did he catch more of it that way, he was also working for the sort of audience that would be listening to it. Nowadays of course acid isn't so popular, and Hawkwind particularly claim to be able to get similar effects just by strange noises and a good lightshow, but the aim is still alteration. This is perhaps the other reason it's called space-rock. It's not outer space it's exploring, but the listener's inner space. Hawkwind's Space Ritual concept is informative here. The idea was, by using a Pythagorean arrangement of the musicians to represent the solar system, and adding the psychic energy generated by the audience when the music was played at them, to create a kind of mystical space-ship, the Starship Hawkwind, which would take the audience on a trip through a kind of shared inner space. Sounds like twaddle? Maybe, but on acid it might have worked and the music can certainly open one's mind just by itself, or at least lift it out of the everyday. If you don't believe me listen to 'Space Ritual' through headphones good and loud with the lights off, and after ten minutes just gently assess your state of mind. I find 'altered' is the only word that expresses it. That's sort of one and three together. As for the variations, you can sort of go from space to rock, I suppose. Certainly some electronic music has a claim to be called space-rock, and the ambient movement are operating in the same territory; at the same time, progressive rock certainly touches space-rock in places. Farflung are an LA band that are trying very hard to make space-rock 'progress', and they make a very interesting noise, although they can do the basic stuff also with admirable skill. At the other extreme, you get bands like Monster Magnet who have a following of sorts on the metal scene, and are much more rock (these days) than space. A Hawkwind spin-off band, Bedouin, have been described as a psychedelic Motorhead. But they're definitely space-rock. Ozric Tentacles get called space-rock, and they have the repetitive/mesmeric structures that Hawkwind used. ST37, an American band, play almost totally random music over steady bass and drums that owes more to Krautrock than Hawkwind, but it's the same theory. The whole of the German Krautrock phenomenon probably has a good claim to be called space-rock, especially bands like Ash Ra Tempel and Tangerine Dream (the early stuff) who did seem to be trying to make the music of the spheres. When you expand your term that widely, almost anyone making rhythmic music with some electronics in it, about things that you'd have to read a book or two to know about, could be accused of making space-rock. In that case you probably need to consider what kind of effect they're trying for. Does it achieve take-off for the brain or not? Is it trying to? Is that what you'd call space-rock? At that sort of level it's subjective. Hawkwind are a space-rock band. Is everything they've done space-rock? No! 'Quark Strangness and Charm' got called new-wave pop, and not far wrong either. Still good though. Pink Floyd did vaguely space-rock things in a quiet way occasionally ('Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun') and even more rarely in a loud way ('Interstellar Overdrive'), but they're _not_ a space-rock band. Monster Magnet played at the Reading Festival in the UK this year, the sort of festival that has Fear Factory and White Zombie if it can get them; but they've done lots of space-rock things. So, you probably need some fairly cast-iron criteria if you're being academic about it. Science (especially chemistry) and space in the inspiration, and space-flight internally for the listener. Preferably loud, guitar-based and mesmerically minimalist, with random overlays (guitar - synth - sax, violin, flute - take your choice) to rotate the bits of the brain that respond to treble. That unscrews the brain so it can float on the steady bit. It does need both parts though, which is what keeps it away from metal and minimalist electronic music. Or, to put it another way, 'Tubular Bells' is not space-rock. What is? Read the above again. Then go make up your own mind. Yours, Jon Jarrett" -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Apr 1 20:50:01 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:50:01 EDT Subject: heading out to CA Message-ID: In a message dated 3/31/01 10:22:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU writes: > Hey gang, > > I'm heading out to CA next week. Any bocl'ers in town (I'll be in Santa > Clara for Apachecon) want to get together? Doug -- we still on for next > Saturday? > > Arin hmmm...Santa Clara's kinda far for me, but if you're bringing the velvet whip, anything's possible... :) Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Apr 1 21:05:04 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:05:04 EDT Subject: HW: NIK: Strange Trips releases Message-ID: In a message dated 3/31/01 4:13:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > I think we should all expect everyone to be out in the open about this > issue. I tend to think like Eli and assume that it would make zero sense > for Strange Trips to alienate those who they've put their neck on the line > for in the past to support. But I don't wish to pay out $ for a release > that the artists don't 'believe' in either. So, can somebody say for sure > whether Nik, Harvey, Tommy, et al., are on board with this? (Did Tommy/Len > mention this/sell this at the Anubian Lights gig in Cal., Chuck?) > > Patiently yours...Keith H. (FAA) Nope, and i forgot to ask. did get a couple advance promos of the new album, though ("Naz-bar"). got one extra -- first one to e-mail and say "am-bat-nam-HESH!" gets it. Warning: it _is_, like their set last Thurs, a little more techno-oriented with less emphasis on the space, but not bad at all, if you like AL. I just think local rave-band the Ray Makers are having a little too much influence on 'em... can't wait to hear the SD recordings. speaking of which, what happened to the feller who i was gonna trade CD-R with?? Yours have been done forever, man! sorry i forgot your name -- so many e-mails, so little mind (my mind that is)... NP: FARFLUNG--"The Raven Ate the Moon" (finally! and if anyone's ever in the Hermosa/Redondo/Manhattan Beach area, check out a shop called Off-Beat on the PCH -- i always score there. they had about 3 copies of 25000 Ft p/Second too, where I originally scored my own copy. Also have an extra copy here at home. It's got a huge promo-bite outta the insert, so i won't ask much for it...just a few bucks for shipping. GREAT cd, bad indexing. chuck From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Apr 1 19:58:44 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:58:44 -0400 Subject: BOC: Joe Dirt? Message-ID: Hey Folks... Saw a commercial (where's that bloody remote?) for an upcoming piece-of-garbage movie called 'Joe Dirt' or something, and it listed BOC as contributing to the soundtrack. Is this a (Are these) new track(s), or old? Just wondering. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. The movie "stars" David Spade, the unfunniest human on Planet Earth (well, ok, maybe second after Adam Sandler), so it's guaranteed to be complete trash. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Apr 1 21:22:15 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:22:15 EDT Subject: (OFF) totally off...mikes mistakes Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/01 5:27:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > PS..if I end up gone from here as well, any are welcome to retain my email, > and see if my liver burst yet or not! > not if mine bursts first, Mike! :) Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Apr 1 21:34:14 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:34:14 EDT Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? Message-ID: JJ -- Really enjoyed your Space-Rock Thesis. Hopefully a work in progress... NP: Farflung: The Raven Ate the Moon (bloody-hell, the tracking on this disc is even worse than 25,000 Feet!!) Flipside certainly did fuck-up their go at space-rock, eh? oh well, better than nada... Chuck From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Apr 1 21:41:49 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:41:49 +0100 Subject: HW:Space rock...IT IS! DRUMROLL PLEASE!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Mike Coleman wrote: > NO SERIOUSLY FOLKS...you know there is only the one answer:..... > > HAWKWIND invented it, and are still BEST at it........ Every time I see them I know this to be true. I only wish their output in the studio reflected that. They have never becomes a parody act trading on their best moments, at least, which is my big problem with Nikwind, but at the same time, lots of the new stuff isn't well, challenging, is it? I don't know, I want too much from an old band I guess. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sun Apr 1 22:20:31 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:20:31 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind a big thankyou In-Reply-To: <005501c0ba72$53aa9460$fecb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: :Subject: Re: Hawkwind a big thankyou : :> heh. :> :> Next time, maybe I'll get the velvet whip ;-) :> :> Arin : :Promises - promises LOL : :Mb well, now you asked for it ;-) just wait 'til that festival ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM Sun Apr 1 22:22:30 2001 From: riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM (Phillip A Jaeger) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:22:30 -0500 Subject: BOC: Joe Dirt? Message-ID: Took a look at the movie's website. Couldn't find a listing of the tunes for soundtrack. K Henderson wrote: > Hey Folks... > > Saw a commercial (where's that bloody remote?) for an upcoming > piece-of-garbage movie called 'Joe Dirt' or something, and it listed BOC as > contributing to the soundtrack. Is this a (Are these) new track(s), or old? > Just wondering. > > Grakkl (FAA) > > P.S. The movie "stars" David Spade, the unfunniest human on Planet Earth > (well, ok, maybe second after Adam Sandler), so it's guaranteed to be > complete trash. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 2 06:08:54 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:08:54 +0100 Subject: top five hawk albums In-Reply-To: Jon Jarrett's message of Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:58:44 +0100 Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > Ah, I didn't realise we could vote for non-existent CDs. In which case I'd > like to vote for the "Heroes Of The Astral Bong" box-set, that wonderful > recording of the legendary jam sessions featuring (amongst others) the > Hawks, Can, Jimi Hendrix and J.S.Bach, recorded in quadrophonic audio- > visual sensurround at the Festival At The End Of Time. Bob Calvert's > rendition of 'Purple Haze' is among the more memorably surreal moments, > and the packaging includes a (highly collectible) miniature drug cabinet to > aid enjoyment. Is that the version with the hair on the sleeve or the one without? FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 2 06:38:52 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Ekim Nameloc) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 04:38:52 -0600 Subject: top five hawk albums/ 1975 live show request In-Reply-To: <200104021008.LAA04158@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: the highly respected, and at times frightening FoFP: "Is that the version with the hair on the sleeve or the one without" it would have to be the hairless, as the technicolors are brighter....and since we're on dream CD's...... I'd like to vote for a 1975 live CD set (by HAWKWIND) deluxxe, ABSOLUTELY done on vinyl with/without hair...will buy 2 of each CD and LP....(that makes 6 dave...if thats not enough..tell me how many and I'll get 'em) How about the festival where the air-force jets flew over?? wasn't there one of those??? parts of that mind-journey boot,and other boots floating about, have the most melting LSD sounds on them(so good you can skip the acid),(IMHO) ever.....turn everyone skeletal.....,despite quality problems...... sure would be nice..... SO MIKE...DOES YOUR WARRIOR HAVE THE HAIR???????? c'mon! tell us/me!!?? I will never forget walking into RPM records here in Dallas, the DAY Xenon Codex came in, and the owner told me he got me the limited "Dave Brock Pubic Hair" edition....said it had one of Daves pubes in it..... he's turned out OK though, squeezed some good Hawkdeals out of that man.... J Jarrett...if you see this...I tried to email you privatey in compliment...but it bounced....?? hmm From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Mon Apr 2 07:43:23 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:43:23 +0100 Subject: HW: IRC LIVE Message-ID: It was a bit crap really. I bought a malibu & coke, and an Archers & lemonade and it came to ?9:80!!!!!! So, after that I drank either non-alcoholic cheaper stuff, or drinks other people bought me. So, I didn't get drunk. I didn't take much money with me in the first place. Also, my partner of the evening got a bad head and didn't feel well, so I spent most of the evening sitting with him while everyone else was dancing!!!! Never mind, it could have been worse. probably would of been more interesting if some of you lot had been there actually.....there would have been better music anyway. If there's one thing I really can't stand, it's crappy little bands playing Abba and Queen over and over and over and over....... Layla (I don't usually moan this much...honest!!) >>> samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM 03/30/01 03:37pm >>> Top fun - can we go?? Sam -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [mailto:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: 30 March 2001 15:30 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: IRC LIVE I gotta go home. I'm only on here when I'm at work. And Friday is the only day I get to go home early. I finish at 5. Gotta get home quick too cause I got lotsa stuff to do, I'm going to a ball tomorrow!! So, between now and then, I've got to try desparatly to try to make myself look like all the other toff students that are going. Otherwise pals will moan!!!! Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 03/30/01 12:43pm >>> awwwww - why not? MB ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: Re: HW: IRC LIVE > oh....poo!! > > Just got that thing downloaded yesterday, but I'll not be on anymore at 5:30. > > I wanted to have a go > > Nuts. > > > Layla. > > > > >>> hw at CY-B.ORG 03/29/01 11:16pm >>> > ++STAR WARRIORS > > Hawkwind will be talking LIVE on DALnet channel #Hawkwind.org.uk > at 17.30 GMT Tomorrow (Friday) Please see details on Mission Control > Updates page for how to log on. > > To get an IRC program visit www.mirc.com > > Mission Control is at www.hawkwind.org.uk > > ++MISSION ENDS *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addresse(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Apr 2 07:50:17 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:50:17 EDT Subject: HW:Space rock...IT IS! DRUMROLL PLEASE!!! Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/01 9:42:19 PM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: << HAWKWIND invented it, and are still BEST at it........ >> ========= see: *"astronomy domine" *"interstellar overdrive" *"set the controls for the heart of the sun" = *"rocket reducer #62 (rama lama fa fa fa)" ======= c'mon guys, we sorta knew better. ...and Chuck Berry had some song about flying around in his l'il rocket ship, whose title eludes me, but it does dovetail nicely in to Hawkwind's most memorable "hit record", which hinged, explicitly, upon the riffing of Chuck Berry. whether they be 'BEST at it'....well, anyway, they're no less than "the last ones standing". "<>" From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 2 08:07:24 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Ekim Nameloc) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:07:24 -0600 Subject: HW:Space rock..IT AIN'T In-Reply-To: Message-ID: FLOYD Hi Larry! how you man! Your right ...it truly would have to be old "effervescing elephant,".....and that inspired Dave.... but to ME....they are COSMIC COSMITORY TERRITORY......and it took Simon King and Lemmy to wing the jinxy jet across the ocean and crack our little skulls.... put the ROCK,,,,in THE ROCKET, and the SEE in MR. SEE....... beer+dissaray+smiling coleman+happy feedback soon, my dear elder, whom like FoFP, is much respected, and at times a little frightening.... wiggy haironend (about you) From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Apr 2 05:40:04 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:40:04 +0100 Subject: smashy and nicey: The end of an era In-Reply-To: <000201c0ba34$c0d93520$615e893e@bedroomt> Message-ID: In article <000201c0ba34$c0d93520$615e893e at bedroomt>, bedroom trancer writes > just watched this on channel 4. Noticed that the harry > enfield(smashy) had a hawkwind patch on the top right hand side of > his jacket. and later the same jacket had a BOC patch in the same place! -- Jon From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Apr 2 09:16:43 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:46:43 +0930 Subject: top five hawk albums Message-ID: mine had a mushroom growing on it ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 7:38 PM Subject: Re: top five hawk albums > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > > > Ah, I didn't realise we could vote for non-existent CDs. In which case I'd > > like to vote for the "Heroes Of The Astral Bong" box-set, that wonderful > > recording of the legendary jam sessions featuring (amongst others) the > > Hawks, Can, Jimi Hendrix and J.S.Bach, recorded in quadrophonic audio- > > visual sensurround at the Festival At The End Of Time. Bob Calvert's > > rendition of 'Purple Haze' is among the more memorably surreal moments, > > and the packaging includes a (highly collectible) miniature drug cabinet to > > aid enjoyment. > > Is that the version with the hair on the sleeve or the one without? > > FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Apr 2 09:21:41 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:51:41 +0930 Subject: HW:Space rock..IT AIN'T Message-ID: hi mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Ekim Nameloc To: Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 9:37 PM Subject: Re: HW:Space rock..IT AIN'T > FLOYD > > > Hi Larry! how you man! > > > Your right ...it truly would have to be old "effervescing > elephant,".....and that inspired Dave.... > > but to ME....they are COSMIC COSMITORY TERRITORY......and it took Simon > King and Lemmy to wing the jinxy jet across the ocean and crack our little > skulls.... > > put the ROCK,,,,in THE ROCKET, and the SEE in MR. SEE....... > > > beer+dissaray+smiling coleman+happy feedback soon, my dear elder, whom like > FoFP, is much respected, and at times a little frightening.... > > > wiggy haironend (about you) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 2 09:44:44 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Delirian Pinball) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:44:44 -0600 Subject: OFF: Astral Bong heroes In-Reply-To: <001201c0bb77$29a119e0$0fcb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: "Heroes Of The Astral Bong" ..... this indeed, cracks me up......Nick M who put it forth....?? now it needs to become real.... I want one....(titled that!) From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Apr 2 10:38:59 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:38:59 -0400 Subject: BOC: Joe Dirt soundtrack Message-ID: >From Amazon.com: Joe Dirt Soundtrack Amazon.com Sales Rank: 222,636 1. Sweet Home Alabama - Lynyrd Skynyrd 2. Walk On Water - Eddie Money 3. Hold Your Head Up - Argent 4. You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet - Bachman Turner Overdrive 5. When I'm With You - Sherrif 6. Cat Scratch Fever - Ted Nugent 7. Who Do You Love - George Thorogood & The Destroyers 8. China Grove - Doobie Brothers 9. Rocky Mountain Way - Joe Walsh 10. Roller - April Wine 11. Burnin' For You - Blue Oyster Cult 12. If You Want My Love - Cheap Trick Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From nick at NETPHD.NET Mon Apr 2 11:03:45 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:03:45 -0400 Subject: BOC: Joe Dirt? In-Reply-To: <200104020109.VAA05378@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Quoting K Henderson : > Hey Folks... > > Saw a commercial (where's that bloody remote?) for an upcoming > piece-of-garbage movie called 'Joe Dirt' or something, and it listed BOC as > contributing to the soundtrack. Is this a (Are these) new track(s), or > old? > Just wondering. > > Grakkl (FAA) My guess, without looking it up, is that it would be an old track, since Spade's character seems to be stuck in the 80s. . . or possibly the 70s. By the way, Kid Rock also appears in the film, if you like that kind of stuff. --Nick From christmu at EUNET.NO Mon Apr 2 10:57:58 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:57:58 +0200 Subject: HW: need to acquire... Message-ID: As I no longer posess any credit cards I'm in need of asking anyone on this list dealing in CDs... I'd send cash or cheque for any of these HW items. As customs up here is pretty strict, a "non commercial" dealer (i.e. not CDNow) would be best. Hawkwind - Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures (Griffin) Hawkwind - Live 1982 - Official Bootleg: Choose Your Masques Hawkwind - Vol. 1 - Complete 79 Collectors Series Hawkwind - Atomhenge 1976 (Voiceprint) Thanks for any help - email privately at christmu at eunet.no Chr. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Apr 2 09:54:56 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:54:56 -0400 Subject: BOC: Joe Dirt soundtrack Message-ID: BH said... >>>From Amazon.com: > >Joe Dirt Soundtrack >Amazon.com Sales Rank: 222,636 > >1. Sweet Home Alabama - Lynyrd Skynyrd >2. Walk On Water - Eddie Money >3. Hold Your Head Up - Argent >4. You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet - Bachman Turner Overdrive >5. When I'm With You - Sherrif >6. Cat Scratch Fever - Ted Nugent >7. Who Do You Love - George Thorogood & The Destroyers >8. China Grove - Doobie Brothers >9. Rocky Mountain Way - Joe Walsh >10. Roller - April Wine >11. Burnin' For You - Blue Oyster Cult >12. If You Want My Love - Cheap Trick In other words, about as original as the movie itself. :) "K-Tel presents...'Groovin' in the '70s." Grakkl (FAA) From nick at NETPHD.NET Mon Apr 2 11:08:03 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:08:03 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bizarre Motorhead sighting Message-ID: Just found Motorhead in perhaps the weirdest place ever. Got to the Internet Movie Data Base -- www.imdb.com -- and search "people" for Drea de Matteo - - she's that hot blonde from The Sopranos. Click on her photo gallery and there's a couple pics of her at the Mission Impossible 2 premiere wearing a tight, cut-off OVERKILL t-shirt!!! Lemmy would be seriously proud. . . she's SMOKIN'!!! BTW -- Did anyone catch Motorhead on Wrestlemania last night? He looked like he should have been singing for the Undertaker. But Triple H seemed appreciative, and any fan of Motorhead is a friend of mine, unless he or she is doing life. I had heard that Limp Bizkit was gonna be there too. Lucky they weren't. Lemmy would have had to kick Fred Durst's punk ass. --Nick From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Apr 2 12:10:15 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:10:15 -0400 Subject: BOC: Joe Dirt soundtrack In-Reply-To: <200104021506.LAA02632@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: > BH said... >>> From Amazon.com: >> >> Joe Dirt Soundtrack [typical classic rock fodder snipped] Grakkl (FAA) replied: > In other words, about as original as the movie itself. :) > > "K-Tel presents...'Groovin' in the '70s." I'd like to see a comp of classic rock bands' least popular songs that were still hits (based on sales). Something like: Best of the Least (1970-2000) Skynyrd> Gimme Back My Bullets BOC> Godzilla (less of a hit than Burnin', right?) Doobie Bros> Jesus is Just Alright Pink Floyd> Shine on You Crazy Diamond Aerosmith> Let the Music Do the Talking AC/DC> Hard as a Rock These probably aren't right, but you get the idea. Maybe if the CD was sent out to enough classic rock radio stations, they might start playing more than 1 or 2 songs from each band on their playlist...I'm sure it would be too much to ask for them to actually add a "new" artist from that era. It's scary. The way things are now, you'd think Pink Floyd only released two albums! Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 2 13:35:42 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:35:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi Message-ID: On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:17:50 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Nick Medford wrote: >> Agree with Doug's list of top authors above though. Surprised more >> Hawkfans don't rave about P.K. Dick- surely the ultimate sci-fi-delic >> author. > > I love Philip K. Dick. It was a great source of annoyance to me >that the local library only had six or seven of his books. The one good thing about living in Sunnyvale (the cultural wasteland of central "Silicon Valley") was that (this being geek central USA) the public library had a huge SF section with a complete PKDick bibliography and a good selection of fairly obscure authors like Rudy Rucker (probably didn't hurt that he's a math/comp-sci professor down the road in San Jose). > Wht, why, why, hasn't Dick's work inspired more music? Does the >Bladerunner soundtrack count? Do we care? There was a "modern classical" type opera version of 'Radio Free Albemuth'. >I must start reading his work in order in a dedicated fashion >again and then pen a vast number of lyrics. Allegedly, they're making a movie of 'A Scanner Darkly'. Early-80's HW would make a perfect soundtrack for that IMO ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 2 13:40:23 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:40:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? Message-ID: Regarding Walter Wegm?ller's krautrock monster, the 'Tarot' double album, On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:09:44 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: > Doug, where did you find it? I shan't have the money for bulk >music for a while, but when I do I might be able to cover that. And I have >to know where to look even if only to drool... Uh ... you'll probably want to murder me. I got mine for free from a friend who (at the time) worked for a silly newage spirituality/UFO/atlantis/crystal-gazer type magazine called 'Magical Blend'. He was the art director, but also wrote occasional music reviews (we were in a band together). Apparently the US mail order operation Eurock sent them a promo copy (that's what the sticker on it says). I'm not sure whether or not Eurock still stocks it ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 2 14:00:12 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:00:12 -0400 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:48:41 -0700, John H. McCartney wrote: >Have you tried the Hobbs End station? I love the smell of decaying grasshoppers in the morning. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Mon Apr 2 14:08:24 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:08:24 +0100 Subject: HW: The 100 Best Record Covers of all time! In-Reply-To: <001c01c0b6c9$abeea780$fe3b70c2@merlinas> Message-ID: If you haven't checked this out all ready. Q magazine have published a limited edition collectors special of the above. Just ?5.99 @ all good newsagents. Go to page 66 and we have a double page spread on HW and the cover of 'Space Ritual'. None of the entries are in order of merit ( a good thing in my view ). mel From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Mon Apr 2 14:18:51 2001 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:18:51 +0100 Subject: OT: Space rock band in London Message-ID: Described by NME as a "hardcore Hawkwind" (not a totally unfair comment), tomorrow night Cooper Tem,ple Clause are playing at the 100 Club (100 OXford Street), London. I can heartily recommend going to see them - they remind me a bit of Space Ritual-era HW. And any band where one member sits on a huge purple cushion the whole time can't be all bad... --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 2 14:35:46 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:35:46 +0100 Subject: ALDER-SHOT DOWN IN THE NIGHT Message-ID: Just about recovered enough to get this down. Despite the lack of full rear projection and the smoke machine, the Aldershot show left Croydon in the dust. The band were enjoying the gig as much as we were, and the sound quality was immaculate. You could actually make out the lyrics to the owl and the pussycat!. "You better believe it" is now extended even further with some great effects from Simons violin in the break. Jerry's guitar work was far more audible tonight, it cut through the mix sending our heads into orbit!....this man is so cool. Ron was completely off his Tree, resplendent in day glo body paint(self applied), he stalked the stage like some crazed messiah....screaming out the gospel of Hawkwind. Respect this man and where he is at......he is the genuine article! Huw, who had turned out an outstanding support set joined the band for "Motorway city", and the monster that is Hawkwind immediately sucked him into its vortex creating an eruption of sound that moved through your skull like some organic beast on acid. It had now gone beyond what humans term as music. Richard Chadwick is the hub of the emanations. In direct contact with the spheres, the channelling of power ( from what is secretly disguised as a drumkit) into the primordial tribal beat, just leaves you overcome. Combine this with Alan's demon bass.........just feel the shivers people. Captain Dave somehow manages to control this terrible power by his cosmic stare. It takes just a glance at a fellow band member to pull out of a crash dive of which you would think there is no escape. That's why he is Capt Dave folks! Aldershot for us has become a never forget gig. Something that stands out as a pinnacle after the mega Brixton/Astoria concerts. Just a small (military) town on a quiet Sunday night THAT GOT BLOWN AWAY! Our thanks once again to Kris for her warm welcome and interest (you're the best), a really warm, and focussed lady who deserves respect. To Dave for the autographs and photocall (nice fleece) . Ron, for being Ron. Jerry and Richard, it was a pleasure!! And if you are reading this David, thanks for keeping the tea coming. To everyone else we met and chatted to, we will be in touch. GARY & ANNA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Apr 2 14:48:25 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:48:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: Farflung In-Reply-To: <3a.126003f3.27e7fded@aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > In a message dated 3/19/01 3:31:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, > henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > > > > P.S. The Myth of Solid Ground...ever released? (other than the initial run > > of 30 CD-Rs) Does Big Jesus (the supposed label of choice) have any web > > presence? > > Not sure if you'd heard yet, but a local SoCal label/distributor (Falcata > Galia, located in Rialto of all places!!) is supposed to be releasing their > next album... Is that _The Myth of Solid Ground_ or a further one? Because I recall some chatter from someone who'd run into Len Del Rio that he was about to go into the studio with Tommy and co. That was probably the new AL album though wasn't it? Or do you know different? > PS: Was Raven That Ate the Moon released on Flipside? Is it really rare? I believe it can still be got, but it was certainly on Flipside. Marvellous artwork, incredible music (though _Belief Module_ is kind of the same stuff brought under control), lousy indexing. There are four tracks on the CD; the back cover lists six and the credits mention 7 & 8. I did try to get an idea what was going on out of the bass player who was fired, Buck McGibbony, but only got half of one before he started talking about energy levels and didn't get an appropriately encouraging response from me to continue the correspondance. Yours, Jon ObCD: Hawkwind - _Spacebrock_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Apr 2 15:09:50 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:09:50 -0500 Subject: OFF: pkd In-Reply-To: <200104021735.NAA15197@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: :Subject: Re: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi : :>I must start reading his work in order in a dedicated fashion :>again and then pen a vast number of lyrics. : :Allegedly, they're making a movie of 'A Scanner Darkly'. Early-80's HW :would make a perfect soundtrack for that IMO ... heh. I'd like to see how they manage to capture this one on film, given the disjoint personalities running rampant. Should be not too difficult, given that he only appears as the agent with the suit on, but still should be fun. Arin (_A Scanner Darkly_ is one of my favorites Dick novels. ;-) ) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Mon Apr 2 15:17:53 2001 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:17:53 -0700 Subject: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? Message-ID: I'm fairly certain that the Tarot CD setTREE has been out-of-print for some time. A copy just sold on eBay for US$117.50. Too rich for my bloodTREE, unfortunately. You can look at the auction result at this linkTREE: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1419915204 I would never suggest treeing something like this. No way, not me, never. Tree. BTW, just out of curiosity, who has this, and aTREE CD burner? :-) MWood NP: H.P. Lovecraft - _Two Classic Albums from H.P. LoveTREEcraft_ >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:40:23 -0400 >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >From: Douglas Pearson >Subject: Re: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Regarding Walter Wegm?ller's krautrock monster, the 'Tarot' double album, >On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:09:44 +0100, Jon Jarrett > wrote: >> Doug, where did you find it? I shan't have the money for bulk >>music for a while, but when I do I might be able to cover that. And I have >>to know where to look even if only to drool... > >Uh ... you'll probably want to murder me. I got mine for free from a >friend who (at the time) worked for a silly newage >spirituality/UFO/atlantis/crystal-gazer type magazine called 'Magical >Blend'. He was the art director, but also wrote occasional music reviews >(we were in a band together). Apparently the US mail order operation >Eurock sent them a promo copy (that's what the sticker on it says). I'm >not sure whether or not Eurock still stocks it ... > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Apr 2 16:18:41 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:18:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Zones/ FIFTHED/SIXTHED/SEVENTHED In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Mike Coleman wrote: > the whole album is a mindblower (twink? frond? m. > eye?)....anyway.....ESPECIALLY THE MOORCOCK additions..... I do like the Moorcock additions, he's never less than interesting, although parts of _New World's Fair_ are pretty painful nonetheless. But the quality is lousy, the 1980 live stuff is only okay, and the 1982 stuff is, well, OK but the robotic tone is too much well before the end. Worth it for the `Utopia 1984'/ `Social Alliance' segue though. _Magic Eye_ however is a *top* album. One of my luckiest finds. "Staggering rock with weird psychedelic effects... " Mike: await private mail about bounces, for which I apologise... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Apr 2 16:51:35 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:51:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Farflung In-Reply-To: <016701c0b18d$87c95e40$2f18bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > anyone fed up with hearing from me tonight yet? > Actually, coincidentally, I checked with Freak Emporium today (yes, we do > speak to each other!!!) and they don't have any 'Belief Module' left > either - but then I'd love to get myy hands on the guy from Bad Acid mag who > released this 'coz he ripped me off of thirty quid and then diappeared. I > think the stocks of the album had pretty well run out by this time anyway > ansd he won;t be doing any more so I reckon this is now officially a > 'collectors item', but did the band see the due royalties - I'd love to > know. For what it's worth, I got my copy from , who are very good. No idea where they got from though, it took them a while (for them; they usually fill within two weeks if not much sooner). This because I had *bust* my previous copy - still can't believe that. I still have it, neat split across one radius, and digipak. I had some idea of burning a CD-R copy of the new one to go in the case with it and then trading the new one when it got rare, but I have never been sufficiently together to do so. Haven't helped the availability though, sorry about that. Yours, Jon ObCD: U2 - _Pop_ From hw at CY-B.ORG Mon Apr 2 16:54:21 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:54:21 -0400 Subject: HW: Aldershot Message-ID: I have to say that the Aldershot gig was BY FAR one of the best I have seen the band play in a long time. Firstly, the sound was good, even perfect, and second, the band were really tight... it was a privilage to be there. However, and on a very personal note, while I was taking shots for the website, some empty-headed neanderthal deliberately poured a pint of lager over my digital camera. If anyone knows who the little shit is please mail me directly, as I would *love* to 'make contact' with him. I will now have to pay a bill for >?125 for specialist strip and clean, so I am *NOT* a happy bunny. :{{{ The shots I did get of croydon and aldershot will be up in a few days. Thanx Rx From coral at APORT.RU Mon Apr 2 18:19:32 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:19:32 +0400 Subject: OFF: h. creed webpage Message-ID: Hello! Does anyone know a link to good Helios Creed webpage? thank you, Alissa From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Apr 2 18:46:14 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:46:14 +0800 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Pearson" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:35 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi > On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:17:50 +0100, Jon Jarrett > wrote: > >On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > >> Agree with Doug's list of top authors above though. Surprised more > >> Hawkfans don't rave about P.K. Dick- surely the ultimate sci-fi-delic > >> author. Any Larry Niven fans out there? Bill From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Mon Apr 2 21:13:11 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:13:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Rock City Message-ID: Hokay Folx... setlist from Rock City (as best as I can manage) Lineup (R to L) Dave, Ron, Richard, Simon, Alan, Jerry Assault & Battery/Golden Void Clouded Vision Money Tree(?) Space Is Deep ? (World OfLies??) Flying Doctor Owl & Pussycat Angels Of Death High Rise You Better Believe It (Ron Rant - Gremlin?) Spirit Of The Age Hassan I Sabbah Encores: Spiral Glaxy Introduced by Simon as "a trip down memory lane in my home town") Motorway City Hurry On Sundown A cracking night, enlivened by the presence of Jim Lascko & his brother Jerry. The set feels pretty well honed, despite Aaln's comment about the being a bit "forgetful": I think re. song order... ChrisW From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Apr 3 00:21:57 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:21:57 EDT Subject: NIK: Nik Turner Band Live 1978 Message-ID: Came across this title the other night, but didn't pick it up; it was $18 and I already had the Farflung, Oganization's Tone Float and Ralf and Florian...and there were only about 5 tracks. Thoth, Godrock, a few others. Somewhere in the album's title Nik is refered to as "The Conscience of Hawkwind". Some Gong members in the band. What would you say about this release, I'm curious? Essential? Chuck From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Apr 3 02:35:30 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:05:30 +0930 Subject: OFF: Astral Bong heroes Message-ID: i like it ----- Original Message ----- From: Delirian Pinball To: Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 11:14 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Astral Bong heroes > "Heroes Of The Astral Bong" ..... > > > this indeed, cracks me up......Nick M who put it forth....?? > > > now it needs to become real.... > > > I want one....(titled that!) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Apr 3 02:46:04 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:16:04 +0930 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: Could you send me a sample in a jar? please Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Pearson To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:30 AM Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent > On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:48:41 -0700, John H. McCartney > wrote: > >Have you tried the Hobbs End station? > > I love the smell of decaying grasshoppers in the morning. > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Apr 3 03:44:28 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:44:28 -0500 Subject: Nik Turner Band Live 1978 Message-ID: Is that SPYNX-live at deeply vale? If so, it is not a very good sounding recording. It is only worth having if your a big NIK fan. There isn't alot of live SPHYNX stuff out there. If there is I haven't found it yet. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Rosenberg [mailto:Chuckrecs at AOL.COM] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 11:22 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: NIK: Nik Turner Band Live 1978 Came across this title the other night, but didn't pick it up; it was $18 and I already had the Farflung, Oganization's Tone Float and Ralf and Florian...and there were only about 5 tracks. Thoth, Godrock, a few others. Somewhere in the album's title Nik is refered to as "The Conscience of Hawkwind". Some Gong members in the band. What would you say about this release, I'm curious? Essential? Chuck From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 3 04:11:12 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Delirian Pinball) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:11:12 -0600 Subject: Nik Turner Band Live 1978 In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6DCE@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: Stephen L says: "Is that SPYNX-live at deeply vale? If so, it is not a very good sounding recording. It is only worth having if your a big NIK fan. There isn't alot of live SPHYNX stuff out there. If there is I haven't found it yet." that has to be the one he means....... nice shot of the Nik god on the booklet.....seem to remember some spacey guitar on the few minutes I listened.....but the quality is pretty much gas passing, and buns flapping...... and for the record mr.SL.....re Sham 69;...i never said I didn't LIKE it...just said I had to be beerbuzzed.....at least one of the tracks leaps out and speaks volumes to the neighbor lady whose hotline to the police is a little less red colored and a little less blinking of late.... claw of the conciliater(sp?) From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Apr 3 04:11:02 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 03:11:02 -0500 Subject: Nik Turner Band Live 1978 Message-ID: I'm sorry if I offended you.FORGIVE ME STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Delirian Pinball [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:11 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Nik Turner Band Live 1978 Stephen L says: "Is that SPYNX-live at deeply vale? If so, it is not a very good sounding recording. It is only worth having if your a big NIK fan. There isn't alot of live SPHYNX stuff out there. If there is I haven't found it yet." that has to be the one he means....... nice shot of the Nik god on the booklet.....seem to remember some spacey guitar on the few minutes I listened.....but the quality is pretty much gas passing, and buns flapping...... and for the record mr.SL.....re Sham 69;...i never said I didn't LIKE it...just said I had to be beerbuzzed.....at least one of the tracks leaps out and speaks volumes to the neighbor lady whose hotline to the police is a little less red colored and a little less blinking of late.... claw of the conciliater(sp?) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 3 04:21:11 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Delirian Pinball) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:21:11 -0600 Subject: ( OFF) coleman post format In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear elite brothas in the ether:...(and Jill, and others of her species)... If the way I do my posts needs reformatting, or improvement, would someone who is macintosh prone with patience explain to me how to evole in a nice way....in simple, abc, connect the dots, dum dum terms..... mike coleman From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 3 04:39:48 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Delirian Pinball) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:39:48 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Stephen L In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6DCF@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: You said: :"I'm sorry if I offended you.FORGIVE ME" please know my twisted humor...you and all....there is NO OFFENSE even at a sub-atomic level.... I kneel before the vast musical knowledge of the many on this list.... Fluffy Toy Poodle (into hawkwind)....... From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Tue Apr 3 05:11:18 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:11:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Rock City Message-ID: >Lineup (R to L) Dave, Ron, Richard, Simon, Alan, Jerry So where was Keith????? (and Jez for that matter) >Money Tree(?) Please Ron - drop the vox from "Spacebrock" - it works *so* much better without. >? (World OfLies??) ie "Hippy" >You Better Believe It The highlight of the gig for me. Fantastic stuff. Concur with ChrisW - it was a cracking night. Sound was good, altho' Jerry a bit too low in the mix. Bedouin were pretty good, too, but I still think they need a decent singer (sorry, Alan) - whatever happened to that guy they had? Can't recall full set list, but included the following: Vision Quest/Elric pt 2/One Moon Circles/As Above, So Below/Wings/LSD Have fun in Leeds (still may make it myself) DaveB From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Tue Apr 3 06:37:14 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:37:14 +0100 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: Hodds End station......? Decaying grasshoppers......? What on earth is this all about....!? Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 04/03/01 07:46am >>> Could you send me a sample in a jar? please Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Pearson To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:30 AM Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent > On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:48:41 -0700, John H. McCartney > wrote: > >Have you tried the Hobbs End station? > > I love the smell of decaying grasshoppers in the morning. > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Tue Apr 3 11:53:49 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:53:49 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind triple CD In-Reply-To: <200103302004.PAA29948@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Thanks for the confirmation Douglas. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Pearson [mailto:ceres at SIRIUS.COM] Sent: 30 March 2001 15:05 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind triple CD On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:34:44 -0500, ejobson wrote: >Just realised mine are vinyl not disk, but the interview's good anyway. Aha. That identifies it. It was the triple LP box that Flicknife put out. I don't have it, so I don't remember what the other two LP's were (previously-released Flicknife stuff, maybe 'Out and Intake' or CotBS or 'Zones'?). Yeah, it's a pretty good interview of Dave Brock by Brian Tawn (with, I think, Kris and Frenchy Flicknife in the background). AFAIK, the only place the interview LP has been released on CD is on the Cleopatra/Purple Pyramid 'Golden Void' double-CD (which also compiles the "Hurry On Sundown", "Valium Ten", Sonic Assassins & 'Night of the Hawk/Earth Ritual Preview' 12"EP's, and a few miscellaneous Hawkwind/Hawklords tracks from 'Friends & Relations' vol.1 & 2). Not the same as the triple CD Mike was originally asking about ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of ejobson >Sent: 30 March 2001 10:23 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Hawkwind triple CD > >I think I've got this one. I remember one of the disks was a Dave Brock >interview, think the other two were compilations of some sort. > >Eddie. > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of M Holmes >Sent: 29 March 2001 12:49 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Hawkwind triple CD > > >Quite a few years ago there was a triple CD box set released. Can anyone >remember which 3 CDs were in this? > >FoFP From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Tue Apr 3 12:16:34 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:16:34 -0400 Subject: need to acquire... In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010402165212.00957cf0@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: Contact Victoria at Voiceprint, they should have them all in stock. -----Original Message----- From: christmu at eunet.no [mailto:christmu at EUNET.NO] Sent: 02 April 2001 10:58 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: need to acquire... As I no longer posess any credit cards I'm in need of asking anyone on this list dealing in CDs... I'd send cash or cheque for any of these HW items. As customs up here is pretty strict, a "non commercial" dealer (i.e. not CDNow) would be best. Hawkwind - Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures (Griffin) Hawkwind - Live 1982 - Official Bootleg: Choose Your Masques Hawkwind - Vol. 1 - Complete 79 Collectors Series Hawkwind - Atomhenge 1976 (Voiceprint) Thanks for any help - email privately at christmu at eunet.no Chr. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Apr 3 08:00:38 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:30:38 +0930 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: I don't know but its funky hey! My Dictionary of Strangeness says Funky:; To do or experience something in a cool & or bizare manner; FUNK : the scent of decaying grasshoppers in the wee hours of the morning. WOW!! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:07 PM Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent > Hodds End station......? > Decaying grasshoppers......? > > What on earth is this all about....!? > > > Layla > > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 04/03/01 07:46am >>> > Could you send me a sample in a jar? > please > Mb > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Douglas Pearson > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:30 AM > Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent > > > > On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:48:41 -0700, John H. McCartney > > wrote: > > >Have you tried the Hobbs End station? > > > > I love the smell of decaying grasshoppers in the morning. > > > > -Doug > > ceres at sirius.com > > From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Apr 3 08:01:39 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:01:39 -0500 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: Does that have anything to do with GEORGE CLINTON?????? -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 7:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent I don't know but its funky hey! My Dictionary of Strangeness says Funky:; To do or experience something in a cool & or bizare manner; FUNK : the scent of decaying grasshoppers in the wee hours of the morning. WOW!! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:07 PM Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent > Hodds End station......? > Decaying grasshoppers......? > > What on earth is this all about....!? > > > Layla > > > >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 04/03/01 07:46am >>> > Could you send me a sample in a jar? > please > Mb > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Douglas Pearson > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:30 AM > Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent > > > > On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:48:41 -0700, John H. McCartney > > wrote: > > >Have you tried the Hobbs End station? > > > > I love the smell of decaying grasshoppers in the morning. > > > > -Doug > > ceres at sirius.com > > From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Tue Apr 3 08:18:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:18:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Aldershot Message-ID: Interesting to hear other people's coments on Aldershot - I agree there were some real high points (You'd better believe it and Space is Deep during their blanga bits were FABULOUS) but the sound mix was very variable and I couldn't hear much of Jerry at all - I did try moving around but it didn't make much difference. Too many players on stage perhaps? Interesting also that I think Jerry is part of the Bedouin 3-piece as well, which I didn't know? Ron is growing on me (despite the f-words), the passion and fun that he and Alan in particular showed throughout the gig were memorable. Anyway, well done all and keep on rocking! Steve Litchfield PS> More Opal Butterfly (Lemmy/Simon King) stuff coming next week - one of the groups founders is coming round to my place with a suitcase of archive material 8-)) From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 3 08:54:08 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:54:08 EDT Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: <200103301138.MAA25078@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 30 Mar 2001, at 12:38, M Holmes wrote: > > Certainly a flood of email to George Bush's mailbox will achieve > absolutely zilch. > Oh, I don't know about that...It might accomplish getting you on a list of folks the CIA keeps their eye on! theo From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Tue Apr 3 09:35:37 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:35:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: Canis Minor Message-ID: Does anyone have an up to date contact e-mail address for the Long Island outfit Canis Minor? MIke PS Please contact me direct www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Apr 3 09:59:31 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:59:31 -0500 Subject: Fw: HW:TotalRock Message-ID: Can you run your vcr through your stereo as a tape deck? I have done this to make tapes from video. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Mark Von Bargen [mailto:mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 2:26 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Fw: HW:TotalRock Hi, The DOOM & CO show is normally repeated early on Sunday mornings. I managed to video the show via Sky Digital channel 950. The video consists of a blue information screen with alternating information messages but at least I have got the music onto a UK type video. The sound quality is probably better than reasonable, not fantastic. This could be the strangest audio recording I have ever done. Anybody got any ideas how I could convert it down to an audio cassette as my car is not fitted with a video player. Mark From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 2 19:10:09 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:10:09 -0400 Subject: HW: EMS Message-ID: Gotta love it when a mention of my favorite band shows up in a review of one of my favorite machines (no, I don't know who wrote it; yes, if it's an AKS it's a Synthi, not VCS3, but that's hardly the important part): http://www.harmony-central.com/Synth/Data/EMS/VCS3-AKS-01.html -Doug ceres at sirius.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 3 10:51:59 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:51:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: Ted Jackson's message of Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:54:08 EDT Message-ID: Ted Jackson writes: > On 30 Mar 2001, at 12:38, M Holmes wrote: > > > > > > Certainly a flood of email to George Bush's mailbox will achieve > > absolutely zilch. > Oh, I don't know about that...It might accomplish getting you on a > list of folks the CIA keeps their eye on! I'd be very disappointed if I weren't on that list already. FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 3 11:05:58 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (10,000.lb's of HW) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:05:58 -0600 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: <200104031451.PAA12201@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: FoFP stated: "I'd be very disappointed if I weren't on that list already". ME TOO!!! it's just too cool when the TV commercials have double meanings..........aimed at you personally ......as well as public.... The watched ones are the honored..... they are combing for ideas.... it's embarrasing if they catch you air-guitaring though....... slouch From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Apr 3 11:17:18 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:17:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: CIA for you foreigners. FBI for us Local folks I have been on the FBI list since I had my Mother Jones Magazine subscription in the late 70's :) 10,000.lb's of HW wrote: > FoFP stated: > > "I'd be very disappointed if I weren't on that list already". > > > > ME TOO!!! it's just too cool when the TV commercials have double > meanings..........aimed at you personally ......as well as public.... > > The watched ones are the honored..... > > they are combing for ideas.... > > it's embarrasing if they catch you air-guitaring though....... > > slouch > > -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "A truly great man never puts away the simplicity of a child. " --Chinese Proverb From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 3 11:22:18 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:22:18 EDT Subject: MM In-Reply-To: <3AC9E97E.4080009@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: Hey, I've been away awhile...Has anyone mentioned the really good interview with Dave Wyndorf in this month's Guitar World [with Aerosmith on the conver] ? Check it out! theo From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Apr 3 10:17:14 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:17:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: Sigur Ros Message-ID: Hi Folks... This unusual Icelandic combo will be doing this US mini-tour soon. I just picked up their most recent disc (title in Icelandic...'AB' I'll call it). It's a similar style of melancholic drone music as is gybe!, but not identical. And I'm still trying to figure out exactly where I'd already heard the opening track with the weird female vocals. I've looked on a bunch of compilation discs I have, but haven't seen it yet. I *know* I'd heard it before somewhere! Well, anyway, here are the dates I've seen...perhaps there will be more? Grakkl (FAA) 28.April - Coachella Music & Arts Festival, Indio, CA 1. May - John Anson Ford Theatre, Hollywood, CA 2. May - The Fillmore, San Francisco, CA 4. May - Palais Royale, Toronto, Ontario, Canada 6. May - Parkwest, Chicago, Illinois 8. May - Angel Orensanz Center, New York, NY Check their website: www.sigur-ros.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Apr 3 10:20:21 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:20:21 -0400 Subject: MM Message-ID: Theo said, >I've been away awhile...Has anyone mentioned the really good >interview with Dave Wyndorf in this month's Guitar World [with >Aerosmith on the conver] ? Check it out! Hmmm...he's also interviewed in Magnet this month (or rather 'bimonth'). I didn't actually read it yet (only scanned through looking for an obligatory Hawkwind mention, of which there was none). I think something called 'Outkast' is on the cover, whoever they might be (hiphoppers or something). There's also a mention of F/i in Fred Mills' Import section. Doug, you still have any of those discs? Grakkl (FAA) From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Apr 3 11:35:34 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:35:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: Sigur Ros In-Reply-To: <200104031528.LAA03912@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Hint: they're not female vocals... ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 3 11:36:45 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:36:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: 10,000.lb's of HW's message of Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:05:58 -0600 Message-ID: 10,000.lb's of HW writes: > FoFP stated: > > "I'd be very disappointed if I weren't on that list already". > > ME TOO!!! it's just too cool when the TV commercials have double > meanings..........aimed at you personally ......as well as public.... > > The watched ones are the honored..... > > they are combing for ideas.... > > it's embarrasing if they catch you air-guitaring though....... I only do that when the NASDAQ is falling. I'm going to fool Them into thinking that it's me that's causing it. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 3 11:37:51 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:37:51 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: Michael S. Habiby's message of Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:17:18 -0400 Message-ID: Michael S. Habiby writes: > CIA for you foreigners. > > FBI for us Local folks > > I have been on the FBI list since I had my Mother Jones Magazine > subscription in the late 70's Is that Mother Theresa's sister? FoFP From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Apr 3 12:03:21 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:03:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > Michael S. Habiby writes: > >> CIA for you foreigners. >> >> FBI for us Local folks >> >> I have been on the FBI list since I had my Mother Jones Magazine >> subscription in the late 70's > > > Is that Mother Theresa's sister? > > FoFP > > More like her evil twin. -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "A truly great man never puts away the simplicity of a child. " --Chinese Proverb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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McCartney > wrote: > >Have you tried the Hobbs End station? > > I love the smell of decaying grasshoppers in the morning. > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Apr 3 13:19:36 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:19:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Foot & Mouth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Unfortunately, UK poltics seems to be headed down exactly the same > road. Labour are pretty hopeless, but the Tories are probably worse, > and who knows what the Lib Dems will do? Like in the States, any > real choice has been lost in a mire of career politicians playing > one-upsmanship party-politics games. Meanwhile, there aren't any > teachers, trains, hospitals, sheep, etc. Well, obviously what the future holds for any government is obscure unless you're fofp. But as to what the Libdems *think* they will do, well, that's obtainable on the policy section of . > I would admire the Lib Dems for saying that they think taxes actually > need to be raised -- since the UK does occupy this weird, > disfunctional middle ground between the US's low-tax > low-public-services and Europe's high-tax high-public-services -- > except that I have absolute confidence that they would waste them > just as well as Labour or the Tories. Ah, well, at least they're all > more or less centrists ... A while back, the LibDems did float a motion at the conference, based on the then white-hot heat of computer technologies as one in ten schools got themselves BBC Micros already! that there should be a single revenue mechanism, whereby you filled out one quite large form each year, which covered your entitlement to all benefits and your taxable income and so on, everything to do with money you paid the government and they paid you, it was machine-processed and then they sent you one bill or one remittance. It would have cut the cost of bureaucracy hugely, including of course the civil service which I suppose is the reason it was rapidly dropped, _Yes Minister_ being required viewing even then. Yours, Jon ObCD: Pressurehed - _Sudden Vertigo_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Tue Apr 3 13:37:32 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:37:32 -0400 Subject: MM Message-ID: Just picked it up. It's a really good interview. -----Original Message----- From: Ted Jackson [SMTP:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:22 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: MM Hey, I've been away awhile...Has anyone mentioned the really good interview with Dave Wyndorf in this month's Guitar World [with Aerosmith on the conver] ? Check it out! theo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sorry not to be more help, yours, Jon ObCD: Boards of Canada - _Music Has the Right to Children_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 3 14:32:45 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:32:45 +0100 Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases Message-ID: All now in stock ON THE SHELVES at CD Services agcdser at aol.com Each is a limited edition of around 110 and act now - they're great!!!!! Andy G (CD Services - back from 5 days break in Stafford - that old home town!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gilham" To: Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 12:07 AM Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases > I see that www.strange-trips.com have some new releases - Harvey live 2000, > Anubian Lights live '99, and Farflung & Nik live at Strange Daze '99. > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Tue Apr 3 14:52:38 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:52:38 -0600 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: <3AC9E97E.4080009@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: - >CIA for you foreigners. >FBI for us Local folks That was true at one time, until Ronnie Raygun authorized the CIA to conduct activities domestically, as well. The FBI gets involved in events overseas, too. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Apr 3 14:58:18 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:58:18 -0400 Subject: MM Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:20:21 -0400, K Henderson wrote: > ... in Magnet this month ... There's also a mention > of F/i in Fred Mills' Import section. Fred's cool. Back 15 years ago when people would complain to him, "you only write about those jangly North Carolina bands like R.E.M. [this several years before they were superstars] and Let's Active and the Connells," he'd be sure to mention something like, "yeah, but I love the DEVIANTS, too ...". >Doug, you still have any of those discs? I still have a few. -Doug ceres at sirius.com P.S. Any idea what's up with my "top ten letter A" post coming through 2 weeks late?!? From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Apr 3 15:10:20 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:10:20 -0400 Subject: BOC: Joe Dirt soundtrack In-Reply-To: ; from blackblade@BHALLIGAN.COM on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:10:15PM -0400 Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:10:15PM -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: > It's scary. The way things are now, you'd think Pink Floyd only released two > albums! Umma Gumma and Meddle. You mean there are others? :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Apr 3 15:27:33 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:27:33 -0400 Subject: BOC: Joe Dirt soundtrack In-Reply-To: <20010403151020.A6308@telepres.com> Message-ID: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:10:15PM -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: >> It's scary. The way things are now, you'd think Pink Floyd only released two >> albums! Eric Siegerman replied: > Umma Gumma and Meddle. You mean there are others? :-) OK I know what I'm doing this weekend--buying a large antenna so I can pick up Toronto rock stations. ;-) I did hear an obscure tune in Toronto once, at the Hard Rock Cafe (not the Sky Dome one). They played "Place In Line" by Deep Purple as about 20 of us waited in line for a table. I didn't wait long enough to get through the whole song.... Brian obCD> "Who Do We Think We Are" Deep Purple From christmu at EUNET.NO Tue Apr 3 15:45:03 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:45:03 +0200 Subject: OFF: h. creed webpage Message-ID: Try http://www.staticwhitesound.com/chrome/ the site has links to other Chrome/Helios Creed related sites as well. Chr. ObTrack: Love of Life - Swans >Hello! >Does anyone know a link to good Helios Creed webpage? >thank you, >Alissa From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Tue Apr 3 16:47:31 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:47:31 +0100 Subject: MM In-Reply-To: <200104031858.OAA24604@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: At 14:58 -0400 3.4.2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: >Fred's cool. Back 15 years ago when people would complain to him, "you >only write about those jangly North Carolina bands like R.E.M. [this >several years before they were superstars] Oy! REM were from Georgia ... I think! But not NC, surely! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Apr 3 16:45:44 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:45:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Rock City Message-ID: Hi, Track list seems to rougly coincide with my memory. Ron had a shaky start and seemed a tad unsure of himself during A&B. He left half way through it to return for Hippy (unless Money Tree did indeed precede it). Can't say I recognised MT as Spacebrock with words, but thinking about it now there were similarities with the stop/start effects. Clouded Vision was surprisingly excellent. Space Is Deep only really works during second half, with first half solely providing the expectation. Money Tree is punky trashy stuff (similar to Phetamine). Show picked up a gear during Flying Dr with Ron back on form. Where did Owl & Pussycat title come from? I heard nothing that resembled it (it's the only poem I know!) High Rise was great (again). Angels was the best I've heard in years (never thought I'd say that about a song I went off in '86). Better Believe It - great to hear it for first time ever. Spirit was superb, as was the whole of the encore. Dave played guitar pretty much throughout which was pleasing to see & hear. Jerry's singing is much more prominant and is more than adequate. Dave & Jerry should do all the singing and Ron move back to bass. The set has pretty much turned the corner since Horizons now (no Alchemy, Wheels, Reptoid etc) and largely seems based on the best bits of Brixton/Astoria. I hate all this talking between songs that has crept in these last few years. We don't need song introductions or between member banter (well, I don't anyway). Full Autumn tour anticipated. Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Warburton To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:13 AM Subject: HW: Rock City > Hokay Folx... setlist from Rock City (as best as I can manage) > > Lineup (R to L) Dave, Ron, Richard, Simon, Alan, Jerry > > Assault & Battery/Golden Void > Clouded Vision > Money Tree(?) > Space Is Deep > ? (World OfLies??) > Flying Doctor > Owl & Pussycat > Angels Of Death > High Rise > You Better Believe It > (Ron Rant - Gremlin?) > Spirit Of The Age > Hassan I Sabbah > Encores: > Spiral Glaxy Introduced by Simon as "a trip down memory lane in my home town") > Motorway City > Hurry On Sundown > > A cracking night, enlivened by the presence of Jim Lascko & his brother > Jerry. The set feels pretty well honed, despite Aaln's comment about the > being a bit "forgetful": I think re. song order... > > ChrisW > From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Apr 3 16:49:19 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:49:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Rock City Message-ID: Jerry DEFINITELY too low. He works like a trojan to little effect (has done since '96)! Shaun (sp?) Massett (sp?) is the guy you're thinking of and I've no idea what happened to him. Didn't see any evidence of Jerry contributing to Bedouin as someone suggested. Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: David Bottomley To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:11 AM Subject: Re: HW: Rock City > >Lineup (R to L) Dave, Ron, Richard, Simon, Alan, Jerry > > So where was Keith????? (and Jez for that matter) > > >Money Tree(?) > > Please Ron - drop the vox from "Spacebrock" - it works *so* much better > without. > > >? (World OfLies??) > > ie "Hippy" > > >You Better Believe It > > The highlight of the gig for me. Fantastic stuff. > > Concur with ChrisW - it was a cracking night. Sound was good, altho' Jerry a > bit too low in the mix. Bedouin were pretty good, too, but I still think > they need a decent singer (sorry, Alan) - whatever happened to that guy they > had? Can't recall full set list, but included the following: > > Vision Quest/Elric pt 2/One Moon Circles/As Above, So Below/Wings/LSD > > Have fun in Leeds (still may make it myself) > > DaveB > From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Apr 3 16:59:37 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:59:37 +0100 Subject: MM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >Fred's cool. Back 15 years ago when people would complain to him, "you > >only write about those jangly North Carolina bands like R.E.M. [this > >several years before they were superstars] > > Oy! REM were from Georgia ... I think! But not NC, surely! :) Athens, Ga to be precise, no? All those jangly NC bands like the Connells and the Othermothers, though, they were cool, and usually produced by Don Dixon... this was during my NC phase of course ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Apr 3 17:16:43 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:16:43 -0400 Subject: MM Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:47:31 +0100, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >At 14:58 -0400 3.4.2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: >Oy! REM were from Georgia ... I think! But not NC, surely! :) Of course, you are 100% correct. All looks the same from out here on the left coast ;^) ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 3 17:28:43 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Gog and Magog) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:28:43 -0600 Subject: MM/ ATHENS In-Reply-To: <200104032116.RAA25820@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: wouldn't Athens best be defined by that redhead "Kate", of Rock Lobster fame.... doohh... From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Apr 3 17:01:02 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:01:02 +0200 Subject: MM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, >At 14:58 -0400 3.4.2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: >>Fred's cool. Back 15 years ago when people would complain to him, "you >>only write about those jangly North Carolina bands like R.E.M. [this >>several years before they were superstars] > >Oy! REM were from Georgia ... I think! But not NC, surely! :) ACK. They're from Athens. Great band, btw. (c)IAO D+R From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Tue Apr 3 17:51:10 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:51:10 -0500 Subject: Off: Soft Boys 03/31/2001 Message-ID: Anybody interested in the Soft Boys? I taped them 03-31 at first avenue, with dpa 4061s to line in DAT. It's a 90 minute show, they did some good songs, and a nice Astronomy Domine. It would be on 2 cdrs. Send me a private email if interested. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 3 16:59:31 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:59:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? Message-ID: and if Archie does, then you need www.eurock.com and if that's no good and you still want it at a price that would shock buyers of Picasso originals, try us at CD Services on: agcdser at aol.com Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Pearson" To: Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 6:40 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? > Regarding Walter Wegm?ller's krautrock monster, the 'Tarot' double album, > On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:09:44 +0100, Jon Jarrett > wrote: > > Doug, where did you find it? I shan't have the money for bulk > >music for a while, but when I do I might be able to cover that. And I have > >to know where to look even if only to drool... > > Uh ... you'll probably want to murder me. I got mine for free from a > friend who (at the time) worked for a silly newage > spirituality/UFO/atlantis/crystal-gazer type magazine called 'Magical > Blend'. He was the art director, but also wrote occasional music reviews > (we were in a band together). Apparently the US mail order operation > Eurock sent them a promo copy (that's what the sticker on it says). I'm > not sure whether or not Eurock still stocks it ... > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 3 14:52:18 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:52:18 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind triple CD Message-ID: The series was called 'That's Original' and there were a load of them out incl I think, Gary Moore and Mgnum!!! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bottomley" To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:39 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind triple CD > Mike asked: > > >P.S: Anyone know what the double LP and double CD Live '79/Levitation > >title was? Was this just "Two Originals" or am I kidding myself? > > > Almost there. The CD is one of those double-jewel jobbies and has the > legends "Hawkwind - Levitation" and "Hawkwind - Live" on the case spines as > well as on the CDs themselves and the insert front. The latter also includes > a "That's Original" logo. In other words, the two CDs are individually > titled & there appears to be no overall title as such for the package. > > Hope this helps > > Dave From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 3 17:39:38 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:39:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Beehive identity parade! Message-ID: which Andy G? Please god it wasn't me...... Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 3:05 PM Subject: Re: HW: Beehive identity parade! > Bernhard Pospiech writes: > > > Hu > > > > At 11:26 31.03.2001 +0100, you wrote: > > >So, who actually appeared on Ch4's Top 10 prog during their >Beehive footage? > > >I recognised Bob Paterson but no-one else. > > Andy G was seen sitting at one of the tables. Jim Lascko was there with > the old geezer who befriended us on exiting the loos. > > FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 3 17:03:17 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:03:17 +0100 Subject: Gong 25th Anniversary CD set Message-ID: GAS are releasing a CD of the highlights of the solo sets at some point in the future. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eli Friedman" To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Gong 25th Anniversary CD set > Hi Mike. I don't have it in front of me, but I'm fairly certain that there is > not a solo Blake piece per se on the Gong Birthday double CD. On the other > hand there are a bunch of instrumental sections from the trilogy albums that > are quite synthesizer dominated, and the CD opens, (after an intro by Thom > the Poet) with a synth dominated instrumental called I believe "Floating Into > A Birthday Gig." The 2nd CD starts with a remake of " From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 3 17:42:24 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:42:24 +0100 Subject: wwf/motorhead Message-ID: like I say - somebody get the Undertaker to come on to 'Silver Machine' with that bike thing he's got - perfect match!!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:14 AM Subject: Re: wwf/motorhead > Hi, > > But you got to admit that WWF has been the marketing success story of the > last few years. Here in the UK they are even interviewing ex British > wrestlers of the 70's on serious sports radio stations - Mick McManus was > in the studio this week. > > If only Hawkwind had access to their marketing department, perhaps Lemmy > could make the introduction, then you might get your American tour.... > Hawkwind featuring Triple H (or such like wrestler) on WWF style reggae rap > .... UNREAL!!! From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Apr 3 18:35:36 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:35:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Beehive identity parade! In-Reply-To: <054f01c0bc90$367dcae0$ea18bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: > which Andy G? Please god it wasn't me...... Not me, I didn't get there until after the TV people had gone... I don't think so anyway! I was wearing a white Free Tibet shirt, if that helps. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From coral at APORT.RU Tue Apr 3 18:33:17 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:33:17 +0400 Subject: OFF: h. creed webpage Message-ID: > Try http://www.staticwhitesound.com/chrome/ > the site has links to other Chrome/Helios Creed related sites as well. Thank you very much, through this site I found official one - www.helios-creed.com it was so simple :). Alissa From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue Apr 3 18:47:15 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:47:15 -0400 Subject: HW: Tour Images on MC Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS The first set of tour images are now up on Mission Control many more to follow over the next week or so.......... Link from Updates Page www.hawkwind.org.uk ++MESSAGE ENDS From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 3 18:33:52 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:33:52 +0100 Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases Message-ID: Well, Jim said he'd checked with everyone concerned, Tommy Grenas said they were OK or that's the impression I got in a recent e.mail when he said they were coming out, and Harvey has given his consent for his release so I don't see the problem. Besides, the music on them is great so to call them bootlegs is a bit harsh and, from what I gather, untrue. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Hayes" To: Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 12:35 PM Subject: Re: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases > These "releases" are hodgepodge recordings compiled by strangetrips, from > sound board tapes, "mastered" sometimes unsatisfactorily by strangetrips, > and released on cdr....can you say bootleg? these should be aquired through > trading not buying!!!in my humble opinion! From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 3 19:20:59 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Gog and Magog) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:20:59 -0600 Subject: (off) Andy G In-Reply-To: <055001c0bc90$372ecb60$ea18bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Andy... you look pretty cool...man.... try to get in pictures where applicable.... From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Apr 3 19:13:51 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 01:13:51 +0200 Subject: HW: Tour Images on MC In-Reply-To: <200104032247.SAA27055@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi Rik, >++STAR WARRIORS > >The first set of tour images are now up on Mission Control >many more to follow over the next week or so.......... >Link from Updates Page >www.hawkwind.org.uk > >++MESSAGE ENDS Great pix again, Rik! Thanks very much. BTW, on the news-page a possible "big German gig" is mentioned. Anything specific yet? (c)IAO D+R np: Hawkwind, Astoria tape From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Tue Apr 3 19:56:46 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:56:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Rock City Message-ID: >Where did Owl & Pussycat title come from? >I heard nothing that resembled it (it's the only poem I know!) Well, Ron recited something along the lines of (below) several times in amongst all the other stuff: The owl & the pussycat went to sea In a beautiful pea-green boat They took some mushrooms And plenty of dope something something something >Dave & Jerry should do all the singing and Ron move back to bass. You sure? And ditch Alan? I think Ron does a fine job when he plays it relatively straight, particularly on the Calvert numbers (ironically enough) such as Flying Doctor & High Rise. >I hate all this talking between songs that has crept in these last few >years. We don't need song introductions or between member banter (well, I don't >anyway). Oh, I like this. The band were clearly enjoying themselves & I think this rubbed off on most of the audience. Dave From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Tue Apr 3 19:56:31 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:56:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Rock City Message-ID: >>Bedouin were pretty good, too, but I still think >> they need a decent singer (sorry, Alan) - whatever happened to that guy >>they had? >Shaun (sp?) Massett (sp?) is the guy you're thinking of and I've no idea >what happened to him. Sean Massett was the previous Bedouin guitarist. The chap I was thinking of is Danny Faulkner, of Starfield fame, who I'm pretty sure was doing the vox for Bedouin for a while. Never saw them perform with him myself, but he puts in a pretty good performance on the Starfield CD. Dave From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Apr 3 19:57:11 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:57:11 +0100 Subject: Sort of OFF: Sonic Attack In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Mark Licht wrote: > Kevin Perry wrote: > I was reading an article on BBC news online today about Human Variant CJD > (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1235000/1235525.stm) and read > this paragraph: > > "Symptoms start with pains in the joints and headaches, and progress to loss > of co-ordination, tremor, uncontrollable laughing and dementia." > > Doesn't this sound like sonic attack? > > --- > I recall that the ads for the Space Ritual Tour in the Los Angeles Times > said listening to Hawkwind would cause permanent brain damage... That sounds like the sleeve-notes to the first Brainticket album, which would make quite good music to turn people insane too in all truth. It warns you not to listen to it more than once a day, and though I've done it with no apparent ill-effects it was a struggle... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Apr 3 19:54:41 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:54:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general In-Reply-To: <009d01c0b3e6$7dd47720$9005883e@jezd> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, J D wrote: > Has anyone ever compiled a list of live HW releases (songs and sources) in > chronological order? I do try to do this with my expanded discography. This is mostly because it also includes line-up changes, and so to place for example _Thrilling Adventures_ along with the 2000 stuff makes little sense. The difficulty is of course that I try and get it in order and if you're doing this with both live stuff and studio stuff (not that most live stuff doesn't get studio treatment if only to master it) then release date is the only sensible way to go. Unless the release is delayed by twenty-five years. So I;m not entirely consistent. But there is an old version of this file webbed at some location like The domain is right but the filename is wrong, but enough like that to be obvious. I'll get an up-to-date version of the code to the maintainer one of these years. If that's any help though (though it doesn't distinguish live from studio) there it is. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Apr 3 19:47:28 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:47:28 +0100 Subject: HW: Calvert Revenge In-Reply-To: <200103231959.OAA06470@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Rik Rx wrote: > For those who asked, the Calvert disk has the folowing trax: > > 1}Revenge > 2}Fascism/Futurism > 3}Bugatti > 4}Isadora > > Track 4 features Simon House A track with a violinist on called `Isadora'... It's not by any chance an East of Eden cover is it? Or is it one of Mr. Calvert's originals? Seems a very odd thing for him to cover but the coincidence is also rather odd... Thanks for info though, yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Apr 3 20:06:02 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 01:06:02 +0100 Subject: First with Croydon report In-Reply-To: <005c01c0b588$a669b8a0$0100a8c0@kermitz> Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Si Halley wrote: > > I'm going to kill the sound engineer if I ever get my hands on him. Much > as > > I love Alan's playing, being able to hear that to the virtual exclusion of > > all else for most of the gig is somewhat frustrating - Dave's guitar was > > inaudible and Jerry's was most of the time. > > Hmm. I had very good sound almost all night. Could hear Everyone. 7 rows > back right in front of the PA on the left(not bad considering I got my > tickets about 7:15pm!). I think it`s definitly where you are in this place. > Same thing happened last year. I had awful sound all night but others said > it was fine. We were not much further back but on the right, and it was fine from where we were too. Alan not perfectly clear, Jerry still not loud enough (but he never is), bottom end of Richard's drum-kit inaudible (but that's only been different at the Astoria) but none of these things so awfully so that they spoilt it. Keith very loud but not swamping things; but you couldn't forget he was there which since he was very good was no bad thing. Full review will follow when I get to my own machine... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Tue Apr 3 20:31:31 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:31:31 -0700 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general Message-ID: With regards to chronological order, I do something similar with how releases are ordered on lp and cd shelves. Earlier "real" dates, ie. the date a show was recorded, not when it was released, go right in with the studio output with that year. I do try to determine if, for example, a live show was after or before the studio album with that material, it's not always easy or possible. With compilations that cover a large timespan, I tend to stick them in just after the newest item on the comp, such that the mythical comp "Bottom End of the Hawk: The Bassists of Hawkwind" that had a track from IITFOTFTBD as the latest, then just behind there is where I'd put it. I tried just putting all the comps at the end of the pile, but that didn't work well as that's where I stick collaborations and F&R type things. Anyone else have interesting solutions to this dilemma? scorch From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Apr 3 21:17:39 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:17:39 -0400 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:31:31 -0700, John H. McCartney wrote: >With regards to chronological order, I do something similar >with how releases are ordered on lp and cd shelves. Earlier >"real" dates, ie. the date a show was recorded, not when it >was released, go right in with the studio output with that >year... That's how I generally do it ... >I tried just putting all the comps at the end of the pile, but >that didn't work well as that's where I stick collaborations >and F&R type things. What about the Weird CD's (see also below)? I file 101-105 between 'Hawklords Live' and 'Live 79'. >Anyone else have interesting solutions to this dilemma? I'm sure there are, given the number of kollektor-obsessives on this list ("hello, my name is Doug and I'm a kollektor-obsessive ... I will surrender myself to the Higher Power known as the Church Of Hawkwind ..."). As for live albums ... 1) Text of Festival (In The Beginning, etc.) & some Weird 106 [1970-71] 2) Greasy Truckers & Glastonbury Fayre & Weird 106 [early 1972] 3) BBC Radio 1 / Spacerock Live From London [mid 1972] 4) Space Ritual & SR2 [late 1972] 5) Bring Me The Head of Dave An^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Yuri Gagarin [1973] 6) The 1999 Party [1974] 7) Weird 103 (side 2) [1975] 8) Atomhenge 76 & Weird 105 (side 1) [1976] 9) Weird 102 (side 1) & Weird 103 (side 1) & Weird 105 (side 2) [1977] 10) Weird 101 / Sonic Assassins (side 1) [late 1977] 11) Live at the Bottom Line (yeah, I know this shouldn't count!) [1978] 12) Hawklords Live & Weird 104 / Hawklords 78 [1978] 13) Live 79 & Complete 79 [1979] 14) Zones (side 1) & Do Not Panic (disc 1) [1980] 15) Masques Live 82 & Zones (side 2) [1982] 16) Do Not Panic (disc 2) & Undisclosed Files (side 1) [1984] 17) Live Chronicles [1985] 18) Friday Night Rock Show [1986] 19) Bristol Custom Bike Show [1987] 20) Undisclosed Files (side 2) & Travellers Aid Trust [1988] 21) Palace Springs [1989] 22) Glastonbury 90 [mid 1990] 23) California Brainstorm & Live from Space 1990 [late 1990] 24) The Business Trip [1993] 25) Love In Space [1995] 26) Hawkwind 97 [1997] Did I miss any (not counting bootlegs even though, yeah, I know I included one)? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK Tue Apr 3 22:13:47 2001 From: pwibrew13 at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Peter Wibrew) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 03:13:47 +0100 Subject: HW:Leeds Message-ID: I am not very good in the literary department so don't expect aan in depth review or anything, but now that I'm home from Leeds I would just like to share this with you Reading everybodys comments on the dates leading up to Leeds, I have to say I reckon we got the best of the bunch, sound, band everything was perfect, it didn't even matter about the wait to get in. It didn't even matter that I knew what was coming next ( the set list was or appeared to be the same ) Everything was perfect I tell you, perfect Brixton and the astoria aside I havn't had such an excellent time in a long while. To the band, excuse my HUGE cheesy grin staring at you all night, I couldn't have removed it if I wanted I was/am SOOOooooo happy. Big love and Thanks to all you guys, Forever soars the Hawk Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Apr 4 01:27:33 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:27:33 +0800 Subject: BOC: Joe Dirt soundtrack Message-ID: Your number of Pink Floyd's album actually tallies to four. Please add Animals and Wish You Were Here :-) Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Siegerman" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:10 AM Subject: Re: BOC: Joe Dirt soundtrack > On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:10:15PM -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: > > It's scary. The way things are now, you'd think Pink Floyd only released two > > albums! > > Umma Gumma and Meddle. You mean there are others? :-) > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > necessarily a good idea. > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Apr 4 03:03:24 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 03:03:24 EDT Subject: OFF: Farflung Message-ID: In a message dated 4/2/01 11:48:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > Is that _The Myth of Solid Ground_ or a further one? Because I > recall some chatter from someone who'd run into Len Del Rio that he was > about to go into the studio with Tommy and co. That was probably the new > AL album though wasn't it? Or do you know different? > I should have asked, but it sounded like it would be a brand-new recording, which he compared to Belief Module... > > PS: Was Raven That Ate the Moon released on Flipside? Is it really rare? > > I believe it can still be got, but it was certainly on > Flipside. Marvellous artwork, incredible music (though _Belief Module_ is > kind of the same stuff brought under control), lousy indexing. There are > four tracks on the CD; the back cover lists six and the credits mention 7 > & 8. Yeah, they managed to fuck up in 3 ways this time! Makes a HW disc almost look tame... Chuck From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Apr 4 03:37:09 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:37:09 -0500 Subject: HW: Calvert Revenge Message-ID: YOU FORGOT THAT AWFUL 5TH TRACK, TURN THE TAPE OVER (vol. 2). STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:47 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Calvert Revenge On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Rik Rx wrote: > For those who asked, the Calvert disk has the folowing trax: > > 1}Revenge > 2}Fascism/Futurism > 3}Bugatti > 4}Isadora > > Track 4 features Simon House A track with a violinist on called `Isadora'... It's not by any chance an East of Eden cover is it? Or is it one of Mr. Calvert's originals? Seems a very odd thing for him to cover but the coincidence is also rather odd... Thanks for info though, yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Apr 4 06:36:58 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:36:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Beehive identity parade! In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:39:38 +0100 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > > >So, who actually appeared on Ch4's Top 10 prog during their >Beehive > footage? > > > >I recognised Bob Paterson but no-one else. > > > > Andy G was seen sitting at one of the tables. Jim Lascko was there with > > the old geezer who befriended us on exiting the loos. > which Andy G? Please god it wasn't me...... > Andy Garibaldi Oh yes! FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Apr 4 06:38:08 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:38:08 +0100 Subject: Gong 25th Anniversary CD set In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:03:17 +0100 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > GAS are releasing a CD of the highlights of the solo sets at some point in > the future. So we're talking about Hughes Time here. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Apr 4 06:43:52 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:43:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general In-Reply-To: Douglas Pearson's message of Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:17:39 -0400 Message-ID: Douglas Pearson writes: > On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:31:31 -0700, John H. McCartney > wrote: > >With regards to chronological order, I do something similar > >with how releases are ordered on lp and cd shelves. Earlier > >"real" dates, ie. the date a show was recorded, not when it > >was released, go right in with the studio output with that > >year... > > That's how I generally do it ... > > >I tried just putting all the comps at the end of the pile, but > >that didn't work well as that's where I stick collaborations > >and F&R type things. > > What about the Weird CD's (see also below)? I file 101-105 > between 'Hawklords Live' and 'Live 79'. > > >Anyone else have interesting solutions to this dilemma? > > I'm sure there are, given the number of kollektor-obsessives on this list Errr, do I qualify? Live Record name Recorded Source Town ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Text Of Festival 18.8.70,19.4.71,19.5.71 CD+LP London Greasy Truckers Party 13.02.72 LP London Glastonbury Fayre 13.02.72 LP London Brian Matthews Show 07.07.1972 LP Dunstable Queensway BBC Transcription Disc 28.09.72 LP London Paris Cinema Space Ritual 22 & 30.12.1972 CD+LP Liverpool & Brixton Space Ritual II 30.12.1972 CD+LP London Roadhawks 30.12.1972 CD+LP London Bring Me the Head of Yuri.. 23.05.1973 CD+LP London Hall Of The Mountain Grill 26.01.1974 CD+LP London The 1999 Party 21.03.1974 CD Chicago Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures27.09.1976 CD Bristol Colston Hall Sonic Assassins 23.12.1977 EP Barnstaple PXR5 ??.??.1977 CD+LP ???? Hawklords Live 24.11.1978 CD Uxbridge The Complete '79 01.12.1979+8.12.79 2CD London & St.Albans Live 79 08.12.1979 CD+LP St.Albans Civic Hall Glastonbury Festival 20.06.1981 Cass. Worthy Farm Zones 31.10.82+18.12.80 CD+LP Bristol, London Out And Intake 12.11.1982 CD+LP London+ ??? Live 1982 13.11.1982 2CD London Hammersmith Do Not Panic 18.12.80,20&21.6.84 CD+LP London + Stonehenge Undisclosed Files 27.11.1984 & ?.82 &?.88 CD+LP Sheffield + ???? Hawkfan 12" 27.11.1984 & ??? LP & Cass. Sheffield... Chronicle of the Black Sword 22.04.85 CD+LP London+ ??? Live Chronicles 03.12.1985 CD+LP London Bristol Bike Show 23.08.86 LP Bristol Live at Reading '86 24.08.1986 CD Reading Festival Travellers Aid Trust 01.10.1988 & 23.08.86 CD+LP Clyro & Bristol Palace Springs 10.10.1989 CD+LP Los Angeles Glastonbury 90 24.06.1990 CD Glastonbury Fayre California Brainstorm 16.12.1990 CD Oakland Never Ending Story of.. 05.11.1990 CD Leicester The Business Trip Nov-Dec.1993 CD+LP Slough,Hastings... Love in Space 19.10.1996 CD+LP Bristol Love in Space EP 19.10.1996 EP Bristol Wir Sind Kinder der Revolte 21.07.1996 CD Burg Herzberg Space Daze '97 31.08.97 CD Sherman, US Hawkwind 1997 Various dates 1997 CD Britain Strange Daze '98 15/08/1998 CR-R Strange Daze Fest US In Your Area 20.11.1997 CD Ancien Belgique W101 - Sonic Assassins 23.12.1977 Cass. Barnstaple W102 - Hawkwind/Hawklords 22.06.1977 Cass. Stonehenge W103 - Free Festivals 22.06.77 & 23.08.75 Cass. Watchfld&Stonehenge W104 - Hawklords Live 23.11.1978 Cass. Plymouth W105 - Hawkwind 76-77 05.10.76&??.06.77 Cass. London & ??? W106 - Hawkwind 1970/73 Various dates Cass. London + ??? W108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 Various dates Cass. Independent Days Various dates LPs London + ??? Friends & Relations Various dates LP&CD Acid Daze Various dates LP&CD Ambient Anarchists Various dates CD Early years Live Various dates EP Friends & Relations Various dates CD+LP The EBS Samples Various dates CD Golden Void 1969-1979 Various dates CD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bootleg name Recorded Source Town ================================================================ Kinetic Playground 13.12.1971 CD Birmingham Kinetic Space Rock From London 28.09.1972 CD London Paris Theatre Spacerock from London 28.09.1972 CD London Mind Journey 10.08.1975 Acet. Glasgow Atomhenge 76 27.09.1976 CD-R Bristol Colston Hall Live At Watchf. and Stoneh. 22.06.77 & 23.08.75 LP Watchfield&Stonehenge A Quark Night in Paris 23.04.1977 CD-R Paris Live at the Bottom Line 06.03.1978 LP New York Live-St.Albans '79 08.12.1979 CD St.Albans Golden Void 19.10.1982 LP Glasgow Live At Stonehenge 22.06.1983 LP Stonehenge Damnation Alley 04.10.1989 CD-R Minneapolis Cyberspace Conspiracy 25.01.1990 LP Nottingham Kings Of Speed, LoL 08.10.1991 CD Bochum Secret Tepee 19.05.1992 CD-R Reading Rock City 16.11.1993 CD Nottingham The A Files 23.04.1995 CD-R Boulder Orgasmatron different dates CD Dawn of Hawkwind different dates CD Assasins Of Allah different dates LP Nova Drive different dates CD-R Timeless Paens different dates CD-R Corridor of Flame different dates CD-R Theta Orionis 25.01.90 & 11.11.93 CD Nottingham,Cambridge -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nova Drive 1995/9 CD-R (Discontent DISC20470 - US) ---------- 4pg inlay with blank foldout. Cover with white background. Very few released with a slightly different cover - light grey background. The very small run of a total of 35 pcs depended on the appearance of "Terra Mystica", which made Doug Smith roar a bit. The last track is a chant from the middle of LSD. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Born To Go 28.05.84 Ramsgate, Marina Park Spirit of the Age 13.11.94 Koln, Live Music Hall Nova Drive 10.11.80 Doncaster, Rotters Alien 23.04.95 Boulder, Fox Theatre Silver Machine 08.04.95 Springfield, Jaxx Sputnik Stan 23.04.95 Boulder, Fox Theatre Wastelands 22.04.88 London, Hammy Odeon Cold War Kid 06.10.78 Oxford, New Theatre Damage of Life 03.06.89 Woolwich, Coronet Paradox 08.11.86 Birmingham, Odeon Magnu 07.10.89 San Francisco, Stone Doremifasolatido 23.04.89 Boulder, Fox Theatre -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Timeless Paens 1996 CD-R (Nova Drive - US) -------------- Standard CD-Recordable disc. Tracks recorded from various venues and dates, mainly from late 80's or later. The idea was to have new (80's & 90's) versions of Space Ritual-era songs. Some in the early run had a defect with a lot of sparkle, cracks and dropouts. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Brainstorm 18.05.1991 Detroit Latin Quarter Paranoia 12.10.1991 Tilburg Nooderligt Down Through The Night 07.10.1989 San Francisco Stone You Shouldn't Do That 23.04.1995 Boulder Fox Theatre Urban Guerilla 23.04.1995 Boulder Fox Theatre Only Dreamning 13.11.1994 Koln Live Music Hall Born To Go 21.02.1984 Sheffield City Hall 10 Seconds Of Forever 21.02.1984 Sheffield City Hall 7 By 7 24.04.1992 Brighton Event Time We Left 24.04.1992 Brighton Event Master Of The Universe 17.05.1991 St.Catherines Hideaway Be Yourself 25.04.1993 Tilburg Nooderligt Sonic Attack 22.04.1988 London Hammersmith Silver Machine 13.10.1981 Bradford St.Georges Hall Welcome 23.04.1995 Boulder Fox Theatre -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Corridor Of Flame 1996 CD-R (Nova Drive - US) ----------------- 4pg inlay with 'Golden Void' lyrics. Both disc and front cover is numbered. Two different tracklist versions exist - with or without "Time for Sale" Tracks is recorded from various venues and dates, over the whole career of Hawkwind. First appearance of Beast of Chaos and Waiting for My Man. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Tech.of Spaceship Earth 13.12.71 Birmingham Kinetic Playground Void of Golden Light 23.04.95 Boulder Fox Theatre Lost Chronicles 01.10.88 Clyro Court Festival Mark of Cain 01.06.85 Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hall The Secret Agent 29.04.93 Utrecht Tivoli Beast of Chaos 16.10.71 Potter's Bar Elm Court Crystal Void 06.07.91 London Brixton Academy Steppenwolf 12.11.82 Hammersmith Odeon Lord of Light 28.10.95 Berlin Marquee Cajun Jinx 27.11.86 Hammersmith Odeon Phone Home Elliott 15.11.82 Chippenham Goldigger's Club Age of the Micro Man 05.04.95 St.Catherine's Hideaway Waiting For My Man 27.02.77 London Roundhouse PXR5 06.12.79 Preston Guild Hall The Golden Void 27.10.81 Oxford Apollo Theatre -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Orgasmatron 1992 (Bootleg CD) (Cargo CARGOCD22 - UK) ----------- 2pg inlay - flipside is blank. Sleeve notes. Limited edition of 500 copies. First album appearance of New Jerusalem and Starfarers Despatch. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE The Right Stuff 16.04.85 ECT TV Soundtrack Angels of Death 16.04.85 ECT TV Soundtrack New Jerusalem 04.12.79 Ipswich Gaumont Starfarers Despatch 12.12.71 Birmingham Kinetic Playground Master of the Universe 12.12.71 Birmingham Kinetic Playground Mask of Morning 24.04.92 Brighton Event Images 02.07.90 Bournemouth Academy Brainstorm 20.06.84 Stonehenge Magnu 24.08.85 Crystal Palace Shot Down In The Night 22.04.88 Hammersmith Odeon Silver Machine 12.12.71 Birmingham Kinetic Playground -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Text Of Festival: Live 1970-2 (Illuminated/DemiMonde 1983) -------------------- Sides 1 and 2 reissued as In The Beginning & Masters of the Universe TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Master Of The Universe 18.08.70 London Dreaming 18.08.70 London Shouldn't Do That 18.08.70 London Hurry On A Sundown 05.11.70 London Paranoia 05.11.70 London Seeing It As.... 05.11.70 London I Do It 05.11.70 London Sound..Shouldn't... 19.04.71 London Improvise..Compromise.. 19.05.71 London -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Assassins of Allah 1994 Bootleg LP (blank label, HWD3 in runout groove - UK) ------------------ Poor man 'inlay' cover with a 3" wraparound. Limited edition of 300 copies, numbered. Contains rare Hawkwind vinyl tracks. Cover art is a sacred Islam painting. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Master of the Universe Greasy Truckers Party Born To Go Greasy Truckers Party Silver Machine Glastonbury Fayre Welcome to the Future Glastonbury Fayre Assassins of Allah Live at Reading '86 Master of the Universe Bristol Bikeshow Paranoia Bristol Bikeshow Silver Machine Bristol Bikeshow -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greasy Trucker's Party (with various artists) (UA) ---------------------- One of two Double LP recordings of multiple artists from the "Greasy Truckers Party". TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Master of the Universe 13.02.72 London Roundhouse Born To Go 13.02.72 London Roundhouse Glastonbury Fayre (with various artists) (Revelation) ----------------- Triple LP of various artists at early Glastonbury Festivals at Worthy Farm. While Hawkwind did appear in the early days, and in fact had early rehearsals at the farm, the track on the album was from the Greasy Truckers Party. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Silver Machine 13.02.72 London Roundhouse -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Matthews Show : BBC Transcription Disk 1972 ------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Silver Machine 07.07.72 Dunstable Queensway Hall Brainstorm 07.07.72 Dunstable Queensway Hall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dawn Of Hawkwind 1994 CD Bootleg ---------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Silver Machine BBC Brian Mathews Show Brainstorm BBC Brian Mathews Show Master of the Universe Greasy Truckers Announcements Greasy Truckers Born To Go Greasy Truckers Silver Machine Glastonbury Fayre Welcome to the Future Glastonbury Fayre Dawn/Sunrise 28.06.72 Trentishoe Frisco Jam 17.12.90 San Francisco Silver Machine Bristol Bikeshow Paranoia Bristol Bikeshow Master of the Universe Bristol Bikeshow Needle Gun 19.11.85 Aberdeen Capitol -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hall Of The Mountain Grill -------------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE You'd Better Believe It 26.01.74 London Edmonton Sundown Paradox 26.01.74 London Edmonton Sundown -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PXR5 (Charisma 1978) The original LP came with a wrongly wired plug on the back cover which was covered with a sticker and finallt removed in later releases. The original LP also came with an offer to obtain Pete Frame's Hawkwind Family Tree Poster. The version of High Rise on the CD is different to that on the LP. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Uncle Sam's On Mars late.77 ? ? Robot late.77 ? ? High Rise [LP] late.77 ? ? High Rise [CD] late.77 ? ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zones (Flicknife 1983) ----- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE The Island 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Motorway City 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Utopia 84 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall Social Alliance 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall Sonic Attack 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall Dream Worker 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall Brainstorm 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stonehenge (This Is Hawkwind/Do Not Panic) (Flicknife 1984 LP & EP) ---------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Psy Power 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Levitation 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Circles 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Space Chase 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Death Trap 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Angels Of Death 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Shot Down In The Night 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Stonehenge Decoded 21.06.84 Stonehenge Festival Watching The Grass Grow 20.06.84 Stonehenge Festival -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Undisclosed Files (1995 LP) ----------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Orgone Accumulator 27.11.84 Sheffield University Sonic Attack 27.11.84 Sheffield University Watching The Grass Grow 27.11.84 Sheffield University Curse of Man 27.11.84 Sheffield University Ghost Dance [CD] 27.11.84 Sheffield University Master ot Universe [LP] late.88 ? ? Coded Languages [LP] late.88 ? ? Coded Languages [CD] late.88 ? ? Ejection late.88 ? ? Motorway City late.88 ? ? Dragons and Fables late.88 ? ? Heads late.88 ? ? Angels of Death late.88 ? ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Out & Intake ------------ TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Turner Point late.82 ? ? (soundcheck) Waiting for Tomorrow late.82 ? ? Solitary Mind Games late.82 ? ? Assassins of Allah ??.??.86 ? ? Ghost Dance late.82 ? ? Warrior on the Edge[CD] 12.11.82 London Hammersmith Odeon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Travellers Aid Trust (Double LP 1988) -------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Brainstorm 23.08.86 Bristol Custom Bike Show Blue Dreamer 23.08.86 Bristol Custom Bike Show Washing Machine 01.10.1988 Clyro Court -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THETA ORIONIS [Bootleg CD - UK 1996) ------------- 4pg inlay with pics of Calvert in psychedelia pattern. Pic disc. Contains various live tracks, BBC session and rare vinyl tracks. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Night of the Hawk 25.01.90 Nottingham Rock City Back In The Box 25.01.90 Nottingham Rock City Right To Decide 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction Quark,Strangeness&Charm 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction LSD 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction Camera That Could Lie 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction Assasins of Allah 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weird 101 - Sonic Assassins/ Dave Brock --------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Over the Top 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall Magnu 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall Angels of Life 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall Freefall 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall Death Trap 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords --------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Quark,Strangeness&Charm 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Masters of the Universe 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Welcome to the Future 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Spirit of the Age 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Sonic Attack 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Watchfield/Stonehenge (Festival HAWK1 - UK LP) [Also Weird 103] --------------------- Original has "Hawkwind Roadies Erecting Scenery" cover. Label says band is "The Hawks", credit goes to "Bob and the Hawks" Rereleased in various covers and with various titles, "Live and Buzzing", "Alive and Kicking" and "Live at Stonehenge". Bootleg of Weird 103 tape. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE High Rise 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Damnation Alley 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Uncle Sam's on Mars 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Robot 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Cake Out 23.08.75 Watchfield Festival Circles 23.08.75 Watchfield Festival Elements 23.08.75 Watchfield Festival -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 ---------------------------- There were two versions of this tape released, the second being released when the earlier one was withdrawn. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE (a) Back on the Streets 05.10.76 London Hammersmith Paranoia 05.10.76 London Hammersmith Chronoglide Skyway 05.10.76 London Hammersmith Back on the Streets 05.10.76 London Hammersmith Assassins of Allah 27.02.77 London Roundhouse Forge of Vulcan 27.02.77 London Roundhouse Steppenwolf 27.02.77 London Roundhouse (b) Brainstorm 27.02.77 London Roundhouse Wind of Change 27.02.77 London Roundhouse -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 --------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Born To Go 13.02.72 London Roundhouse Master of the Universe 13.02.72 London Roundhouse Jam 13.02.72 London Roundhouse Hurry on Sundown Text of Festival Came Home ??.??.70 Notting Hill We Do It Text of Festival Earth Calling ??.??.72 ??? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 --------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Space is Deep Space Ritual Live and Let Live late.73 USA Etchanatae late.73 USA Dreaming Text of Festival Shouldn't Do That Text of Festival -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Independent Days ---------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Over the Top Weird 101 Who's Gonna Win... Weird 101 Angels Of Death Do Not Panic Watching The Grass... Do Not Panic Assault And Battery 03.12.85 London Hammersmith (Live Chronicles) Sleep Of 1000 Tears 03.12.85 London Hammersmith (Live Chronicles) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Chronicle Of The Black Sword -------------------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE [Dojo CD & Griffin CD] The War I Survived 22.04.88 London Hammersmith Voice Inside My Head 22.04.88 London Hammersmith [Flicknife CD] Assault & Battery Independent Days Sleep of 1000 Tears Independent Days -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Emergency Broadcast System Samples -------------------------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE The Camera That... The Business Trip Green Finned Demon The Business Trip Coded Languages Undisclosed Files Angels of Death Undisclosed Files Xenomorph Love in Space -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bristol Custom Bike Show (GWR) ------------------------ TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Master Of The Universe 23.08.86 Bristol Silver Machine 23.08.86 Bristol -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Ambient Anarchists ---------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Urban Guerilla Acid Daze Motorway City Undisclosed Files TV Suicide California Brainstorm Camera That Could Lie The Business Trip LSD The Business Trip Love in Space 14.04.96 VH-1 Show Green Finned Demon The Business Trip Space Is Their... Love in Space Hassan I Sabha Love in Space -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wir sind Kinder der Revolte Vol 1. ---------------------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Love in Space 21.07.96 Burg Herzberg Festival -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Acid Daze --------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE High Rise Weird 103 Spirit of the Age Live '79 Urban Guerilla same as Live '79 Masters of the Universe Late '80 World of Tiers Late '80 Who's Gonna Win the War Glastonbury '81 Ghost Dance late.82 ? ? Earth Calling ??.??.72 ? ? Motorhead Independent Days Watchfield Festival Weird 103 Magnu Weird 101 Angels Of Death Weird 101 Hashcake '77 Weird 103 Quark,Strangeness&Charm Weird 102 Born To Go Greasy Truckers Party Space Is Deep Space Ritual You Shouldn't Do That Space Ritual Seeing It As... Space Ritual Hurry On Sundown Text of Festival Came Home Weird 106 We Do It Text of Festival Silver Machine late.81 ? ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friends And Relations --------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE The Golden Void 23.12.77 Barnstaple (Sonic Assassins) Who's Gonna Win The War Weird 101 Robot Weird 103 Earth Calling ??.??.72 ??? We do It Text of Festival Spirit of the Age Weird 102 Psychedelia Lives Glastonbury 1981 Drug Cabinet Key Weird 105 Over the Top Sonic Assassins Psy Power Do Not Panic -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Early Years Live (EP 1991) -------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Silver Machine Acid Daze Spirit of the Age Live '79 Urban Guerilla Live '79 single b-side Born to Go Greasy Truckers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1986 Hawkfan 12" ----------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Countdown BBC Transcription Disc Ejection 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall Ghost Dance 27.11.84 Sheffield University -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1997 Love in Space EP ---------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Lord of Light 19.10.1996 Bristol -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1999 Strange Daze '97 ---------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Kauai 31.08.1997 Sherman, USA Brainstorm 31.08.1997 Sherman, USA Hawkwind In Your Area 31.08.1997 Sherman, USA Hassan I Sabha 31.08.1997 Sherman, USA Space Is Their Palestine31.08.1997 Sherman, USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1999 Hawkwind 1997 CD ---------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Wheels 19.10.1997 Glasgow, The Garage Phetamine Street 27.10.1997 Leeds, The Irish centre Fantasy 08.10.1997 Norwich, U.E.A. Alchemy 06.11.1997 Newport, Centre Love in Space 06.11.1997 Newport, Centre Aerospaceage Inferno 23.10.1997 Liverpool, Empire Sonic Attack 23.10.1997 Liverpool, Empire Blue Skin 10.10.1997 Colchester, Charter Hall Brainstorm-Turner/ Hawkwind In Your Area 23.10.1997 Liverpool, Empire Reptoid Vision/ Keeper of the Reptoid 23.10.1997 Liverpool, Empire Ejection 05.11.1997 Paighnton Festival Gremlin Part II 05.11.1997 Paighnton Festival -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1999 In Your Area CD --------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Brainstorm/ Hawkwind In Your Area 20.11.1997 Ancien Belgigue, Brussells Alchemy 20.11.1997 Ancien Belgigue, Brussells Love in Space/ Rat Race 20.11.1997 Ancien Belgigue, Brussells Aerospaceage Inferno 20.11.1997 Ancien Belgigue, Brussells -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1999 Strange Daze '98 ---------------------- Compilation from the Strange Daze Festival 15/8/98 released with Time & Space Fanzine issue 7. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Hippy 15.08.1998 Strange Daze Festival, USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1999 Golden Void 1969-1979 CD ----------------------------- Not the same as the vinyl Bootleg of the same name. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE We Do It Text of Festival Earth Calling ??.??.72 ??? Spirit of the Age 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Robot 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Over the Top 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall Freefall 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall Death Trap 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall Golden Void 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1999 The Complete '79 --------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Shot Down in the Night 08.12.79 St.Albans Motorway City 01.12.79 London Hammersmith Spirit Of The Age 01.12.79 London Hammersmith Urban Guerilla 01.12.79 London Hammersmith Who's Gonna Win The War? 01.12.79 London Hammersmith World Of Tiers 01.12.79 London Hammersmith New Jerusalem 01.12.79 London Hammersmith Lighthouse 01.12.79 London Hammersmith Brainstorm 01.12.79 London Hammersmith The Phenomenon of Luminosity 01.12.79 London Hammersmith PXR5 01.12.79 London Hammersmith Master Of The Universe 01.12.79 London Hammersmith Silver Machine 01.12.79 London Hammersmith Levitation 01.12.79 London Hammersmith -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Apr 4 07:19:43 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:19:43 EDT Subject: Gong 25th Anniversary CD set In-Reply-To: <200104041038.LAA11298@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 4 Apr 2001, at 11:38, M Holmes wrote: > ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > > GAS are releasing a CD of the highlights of the solo sets at some > > point in the future. > > So we're talking about Hughes Time here. > > FoFP Is Hughes time anything like Eric Bloom time? theo From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Apr 4 07:25:44 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:25:44 +0100 Subject: Gong 25th Anniversary CD set In-Reply-To: Ted Jackson's message of Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:19:43 EDT Message-ID: Ted Jackson writes: > On 4 Apr 2001, at 11:38, M Holmes wrote: > > > ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > > > > GAS are releasing a CD of the highlights of the solo sets at some > > > point in the future. > > > > So we're talking about Hughes Time here. > > > > FoFP > > Is Hughes time anything like Eric Bloom time? Probably, but much slower and it warps space. FoFP From chrisr at TIAC.NET Wed Apr 4 07:32:20 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:32:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Calvert Revenge Message-ID: Are these Calvert tracks on this disc demos? What year were they recorded? Thanks, Chris Stephen Lindas wrote: > > YOU FORGOT THAT AWFUL 5TH TRACK, TURN THE TAPE OVER (vol. 2). STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:47 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Calvert Revenge > > On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Rik Rx wrote: > > > For those who asked, the Calvert disk has the folowing trax: > > > > 1}Revenge > > 2}Fascism/Futurism > > 3}Bugatti > > 4}Isadora > > > > Track 4 features Simon House > > A track with a violinist on called `Isadora'... It's not by any > chance an East of Eden cover is it? Or is it one of Mr. Calvert's > originals? Seems a very odd thing for him to cover but the coincidence is > also rather odd... Thanks for info though, yours, > Jon > -- > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > =================================================================== > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Apr 4 07:42:09 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:12:09 +0930 Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases Message-ID: Can you give me more details on those strange trips cd's How many are there in the set how much per cd Thanks Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:02 AM Subject: Re: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases > All now in stock ON THE SHELVES at CD Services > agcdser at aol.com > Each is a limited edition of around 110 and act now - they're great!!!!! > Andy G (CD Services - back from 5 days break in Stafford - that old home > town!!) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Gilham" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 12:07 AM > Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases > > > > I see that www.strange-trips.com have some new releases - Harvey live > 2000, > > Anubian Lights live '99, and Farflung & Nik live at Strange Daze '99. > > > > -- Andy > > > > www.andygilham.com > From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Apr 4 08:05:26 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:05:26 -0500 Subject: HW: Calvert Revenge Message-ID: They are on the demos except track 5. The cd reissue sounds better than the demo versions. Track 5 is 10 minutes of music with turn the tape over being repeated over and over.I'm not sure on the year. I would have to look it up. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Chris Raymond [mailto:chrisr at TIAC.NET] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:32 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Calvert Revenge Are these Calvert tracks on this disc demos? What year were they recorded? Thanks, Chris Stephen Lindas wrote: > > YOU FORGOT THAT AWFUL 5TH TRACK, TURN THE TAPE OVER (vol. 2). STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:47 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Calvert Revenge > > On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Rik Rx wrote: > > > For those who asked, the Calvert disk has the folowing trax: > > > > 1}Revenge > > 2}Fascism/Futurism > > 3}Bugatti > > 4}Isadora > > > > Track 4 features Simon House > > A track with a violinist on called `Isadora'... It's not by any > chance an East of Eden cover is it? Or is it one of Mr. Calvert's > originals? Seems a very odd thing for him to cover but the coincidence is > also rather odd... Thanks for info though, yours, > Jon > -- > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > =================================================================== > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Apr 4 08:06:50 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:06:50 -0500 Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases Message-ID: If you go to www.strange-trips.com, you can get the details. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:42 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases Can you give me more details on those strange trips cd's How many are there in the set how much per cd Thanks Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:02 AM Subject: Re: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases > All now in stock ON THE SHELVES at CD Services > agcdser at aol.com > Each is a limited edition of around 110 and act now - they're great!!!!! > Andy G (CD Services - back from 5 days break in Stafford - that old home > town!!) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Gilham" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 12:07 AM > Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases > > > > I see that www.strange-trips.com have some new releases - Harvey live > 2000, > > Anubian Lights live '99, and Farflung & Nik live at Strange Daze '99. > > > > -- Andy > > > > www.andygilham.com > From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Apr 4 08:08:16 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:08:16 -0500 Subject: HW: Calvert Revenge Message-ID: The year was 76, I think STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Chris Raymond [mailto:chrisr at TIAC.NET] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:32 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Calvert Revenge Are these Calvert tracks on this disc demos? What year were they recorded? Thanks, Chris Stephen Lindas wrote: > > YOU FORGOT THAT AWFUL 5TH TRACK, TURN THE TAPE OVER (vol. 2). STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:47 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Calvert Revenge > > On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Rik Rx wrote: > > > For those who asked, the Calvert disk has the folowing trax: > > > > 1}Revenge > > 2}Fascism/Futurism > > 3}Bugatti > > 4}Isadora > > > > Track 4 features Simon House > > A track with a violinist on called `Isadora'... It's not by any > chance an East of Eden cover is it? Or is it one of Mr. Calvert's > originals? Seems a very odd thing for him to cover but the coincidence is > also rather odd... Thanks for info though, yours, > Jon > -- > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > =================================================================== > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Apr 4 09:12:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Gak and Agak) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:12:57 -0600 Subject: HW: Calvert Revenge In-Reply-To: <3ACB0644.2235F975@tiac.net> Message-ID: Chris R asked: Are these Calvert tracks on this disc demos? What year were they recorded? Ahhh...when I was a younger man of twenty-something, before all that phone-sex delerium.....(pre CRS) haven't played my actual tapes in eons, but on the CD, I recall the sudden bad vibes and accompanying nausea, upon reaching that last track on the voiceprint CD...... who IS that, and what is it doing on my Calvert disc???...???,,,,,, Mike C (agin),...... From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Wed Apr 4 09:43:37 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:43:37 -0400 Subject: acoustic Sloterdijk resurfaces first appearance of 2001!! Message-ID: Hello friends, The advent of spring means it's time to pop up in some unusual places. The acoustic Sloterdijk will come out of the woodwork on Monday, April 16th! We will be playing a short set at Fergies' Pub, 1214 Sansom Street, Philadelphia, PA Monday is open mic night, so we will go on sometime from about 8:30-until. Generally we opt for an early slot if we can get it, because we don't like driving home from the city in the wee hours.. We will be doing some tunes which we have never done before, either acoustically or other wise, including; Tomorrow and Tonight (Kiss) Astronomy (Blue Oyster Cult) Golden Void (Hawkwind) and more... We are excited to get out, and we are looking forward to hitting the road soon with the full spacerock regalia!!! Come to listen or to play!!!!! Once again the date is: Monday, April 16th Fergie's Pub 1214 Sansom St. Philadelphia, PA (215) 928-8118 www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Apr 4 09:33:50 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:33:50 -0400 Subject: OFF: New SpaceRock compilation Message-ID: Hi Folks... Well, the followup to the wonderful "Turn Century Turn" compilation that Mother West did is coming soon!! This one should be every bit as good, or even better! Interesting to see MEC on the list...I wonder if Del appears on this one. Grakkl (FAA) We're pleased to announce our first release: a compilation entitled FLUORESCENT TUNNELVISION. Showcasing some of today's most adventurous musical artists, this 2-CD set contains EXCLUSIVE tracks by the following: Faust, Mushroom, SubArachnoid Space, Djam Karet, F/i, Circle, Escapade, Quarkspace, Oranj Climax, Volcano the Bear, Melodic Energy Commision, Ektroverde, 2012 (from Russia - Connections with Ole Lukkoye), Zelany Rashoho (also from Russia), Tombstone Valentine, Tree Sine (with Jussi Lehtisalo of CIRCLE) & Pseudo Buddha. You can take a look at the front and back cover art http://www.motherwest.com/ftv. We expect the finished CDs back from the manufacturer in approximately four weeks. Other upcoming Submergence releases include: an ALL NEW CD by Conrad Schnitzler and a reissue of 2 Asmus Tietchens albums as a double CD. More info can be found at: http://www.motherwest.com/submergence/home.html ************************************************ SUBMERGENCE MUSIC Adventures for the ear & soul ************************************************ From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Wed Apr 4 10:57:30 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:57:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Virtual theremin Message-ID: http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/playground/theremin1.shtml Hours of fun for all Del Dettmar wannabes... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Apr 4 13:50:06 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Ferris Wheel) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:50:06 -0600 Subject: OFF: Life...Me In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Micheal Moorcocks voice is the perfect vehicle for this state-of-mind projection which goes out on many levels: "I don't care"....... "I DON'T CARE"!!!! feel the sharpened realness reverberate...... new world's entwined From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Apr 4 14:02:45 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:02:45 +0100 Subject: HW - Griffin Message-ID: say what?????? Assuming you tell me what that means, in the meantime, hre's some info I've just had from the wondeful chaps at Griffin in the USA. These titles are all that they now have available and all the rest are deleted so if you're missing anything not listed then act now. As to what is here, nearly all of them are on the shelves, or should be, here at CD Services, if anyone wants something. Andy Garibaldi ============================== List of Hawkind items we have available: Hawkwind 25 Years On Vol. 1 CD Hawkwind 25 Years On Vol. 2 CD Hawkwind Business Trip, The CD Hawkwind Business Trip, The 2xLP Hawkwind Church Of Hawkwind CD Hawkwind Decide Your Future E.P.CD5 Hawkwind In Your Area CD Hawkwind Independent Days CD Hawkwind Live Legends VID Hawkwind Mighty Classics 1980-1985CD Hawkwind Out And Intake CD Hawkwind Spirit Of The Age CDS Hawkwind This Is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic CD Hawkwind Thrilling Hawkwind Stories CD Hawkwind Undisclosed Files - Metal Set BX Hawkwind Undisclosed Files: Addendum CD We are also OK on the Dave Brook title and P. Warlords as well. ======================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Gong 25th Anniversary CD set > ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > > GAS are releasing a CD of the highlights of the solo sets at some point in > > the future. > > So we're talking about Hughes Time here. > > FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Apr 4 13:53:50 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:53:50 +0100 Subject: (off) Andy G Message-ID: ah well - fame at last - I's always hoped that the privilege would finally fall when me and my best friend Linda would appear on Ready Steady Cook (for those in USA, a cookery programme where you help chefs prepare a meal in 20 minutes). Maybe after Krel, that's there now, the intro to the Dead Earnest web page should feature me next......then again. Anyway, on the subject of Krel, the next CD will now definitely be, for the first time on CD, and tweaked about to make them even better, the archive albums 'Dark Star' and 'Earth Zero' (minus the long rambling utterly self-indulgent track at the end) on a single CD, which Martin os working on right now - hope for a release for early July. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gog and Magog" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:20 AM Subject: Re: (off) Andy G > Andy... > > you look pretty cool...man.... > > try to get in pictures where applicable.... From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Apr 4 14:22:53 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:22:53 +0100 Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases Message-ID: OK - here's my opinions and details. First off, each CD lasts about 70 mins. The CD's are live, CD-R's but the music is taken directly from the mixer and is absolutely SUPERB quality, putting to shame things like the Turner 'Deeply Vale' and the Hawkwind 'Glastonbury'. The music itself is just sensational, The Harvey set is a typically spaced-out affair with some long tracks, great synth layers, excellent Harvey scene-setting and a really superb album and a complement to the other two Harvey CD's for sure. The Farflung is nothing short of corking stuff - the first five tracks are originals, done far more powwerfully than anything we've witnessed from the band to date, then they are joined by Nik for a run through 'Sonic Attack', a great 'Brainstorm', a manic 'Watching The Grass Grow', one instrumental I've forgotten the name of, and ending with a killer 'You Shouldn't Do That' - 72 minutes of totally superb music. Anubian Lights album is the best thing I've heard from them to date with a flow, depth and edge that the others tended to lack in favour of a smoother style. The mix of East and West is fantastic throughout with atmospheric synths, chunky drums and more excellent layering. These will be in the new CDS booklet out next week but, as I said, they are in stock now, are excellent value and quality, great artwork and well worth having - oh, and you non-Europeans get seventeen and a half percent VAT reduction of the price of each CD which is ?13.99 UK, OK. Despite what others may say, these are riveting releases for sure - and I do NOT say that without meaning it (in my opinion - I think many of you know me well enough by now!) Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:42 PM Subject: Re: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases > Can you give me more details on those strange trips cd's > > How many are there in the set > > how much per cd > > Thanks > > Michael B > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:02 AM > Subject: Re: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases > > > > All now in stock ON THE SHELVES at CD Services > > agcdser at aol.com > > Each is a limited edition of around 110 and act now - they're great!!!!! > > Andy G (CD Services - back from 5 days break in Stafford - that old home > > town!!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andy Gilham" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 12:07 AM > > Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases > > > > > > > I see that www.strange-trips.com have some new releases - Harvey live > > 2000, > > > Anubian Lights live '99, and Farflung & Nik live at Strange Daze '99. > > > > > > -- Andy > > > > > > www.andygilham.com > > From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Wed Apr 4 14:30:40 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:30:40 +0100 Subject: Hawkfan magazines available Message-ID: Last night I found the following issues of Hawkfan: 1 (reprint) 9,10,11,13,14,15,16,17,22,23 And something called "Orbit", issues 1 & 2 of "Back Brain Recluse", G.A.S Autumn 81 and Cosmic Mushroom #2. I want to pass all of these on to one person; postage will probably come to about ?1 so they will go to someone who will send me 2 good quality blank CD-Rs to cover the cost of postage. Replies off list please. From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Wed Apr 4 15:15:04 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:15:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: Hawkfan magazines available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hawkfan magazines gone. (Sorry for incorrect subject header on original post). Alasdair From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Wed Apr 4 16:31:14 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:31:14 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: <200104031451.PAA12201@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: As Billy Bragg said: "If you've got a blacklist, I wanna be on it" ChrisW (Back on earth with a bang after domestic problems *sigh*) At 15:51 03/04/01 +0100, you wrote: >Ted Jackson writes: > > > On 30 Mar 2001, at 12:38, M Holmes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Certainly a flood of email to George Bush's mailbox will achieve > > > absolutely zilch. > > > Oh, I don't know about that...It might accomplish getting you on a > > list of folks the CIA keeps their eye on! > >I'd be very disappointed if I weren't on that list already. > >FoFP From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Wed Apr 4 16:36:46 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:36:46 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: <200103300303.WAA20245@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: And don't forget the further greenhouse gases that would be released by the melting of permafrost/clathrates..... ChrisW At 22:03 29/03/01 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:22:54 EST, Robert C. Mayo wrote: > >and even if it were true that the ice caps will melt, etc, why would that > >cause flooding, necessarily? when the ice in a glass of icewater melts,the > >glass doesn't overflow; the 'new' water takes up (nearly) the same space as > >the ice that it used to be...did. > >That would be an accurate analogy IF the ice caps on Earth were floating in >the oceans like ice cubes in a glass of water - in that case, 80-90% of the >ice caps would already be below sea level, so yes, melting them would have >little effect on the sea level worldwide. But that only holds true for >icebergs, an infintesmal percentage of the amount of ice in the ice caps. >The ice caps on Earth are mostly ABOVE sea level (on the continent of >Antarctica, the island of Greenland, or on sheets ON TOP the ocean, held up >by their connection to Antarctica or Greenland or Canada or Siberia). > > >much achoo about nothing > >... I wish that was the case ... > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Wed Apr 4 16:43:41 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:43:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: <200103301203.NAA03694@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Even worse, the soap dish is at an angle, so when the underside melts, the ice slips off when melting reaches a critical point. This is the situation with one of the Antarctic ice sheets. So figure out the size of the tsunamis if that big mother goes!!!! ChrisW >Robert C. Mayo writes: > > > and even if it were true that the ice caps will melt, etc, why would that > > cause flooding, necessarily? when the ice in a glass of icewater melts,the > > glass doesn't overflow; the 'new' water takes up (nearly) the same space as > > the ice that it used to be...did. > >Good analysis but I have Bad News: while the arctic ice is sea ice, most >of the antarctic ice is on a shelf, as are the mountain glaciers. What >happens if you have a full glass with ice on a soap dish above it, and >then you melt the ice? > >FoFP From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed Apr 4 16:56:14 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:56:14 -0400 Subject: HW: Calvert Revenge Message-ID: Actually there is no 5th track on this cd...... ??? On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:47:28 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Rik Rx wrote: > >> For those who asked, the Calvert disk has the folowing trax: >> >> 1}Revenge >> 2}Fascism/Futurism >> 3}Bugatti >> 4}Isadora >> >> Track 4 features Simon House > > A track with a violinist on called `Isadora'... It's not by any >chance an East of Eden cover is it? Or is it one of Mr. Calvert's >originals? Seems a very odd thing for him to cover but the coincidence is >also rather odd... Thanks for info though, yours, > Jon >-- > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > =================================================================== > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Actually, the is no 5th track on this cd..... ????? From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Apr 4 17:12:56 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:12:56 -0400 Subject: BOC: Joe Dirt soundtrack In-Reply-To: ; from blackblade@BHALLIGAN.COM on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:27:33PM -0400 Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:27:33PM -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:10:15PM -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: > >> It's scary. The way things are now, you'd think Pink Floyd only released two > >> albums! > > Eric Siegerman replied: > > Umma Gumma and Meddle. You mean there are others? :-) > > OK I know what I'm doing this weekend--buying a large antenna so I can pick > up Toronto rock stations. ;-) Don't bother. Things are just as pathetic up here. > I did hear an obscure tune in Toronto once, at the Hard Rock Cafe (not the > Sky Dome one). They played "Place In Line" by Deep Purple as about 20 of us > waited in line for a table. *grin* When Supertramp toured a while ago (last summer? the year before? -- and yes, they did play some good stuff in the first part of the set, before descending into Breakfast in America drivel) the Toronto gig was at Ontario Place, an entertainment/restaurant/recreation complex on an island (there are pedestrian bridges to it; it's not very far offshore). As we were all leaving, a big crowd bunched up waiting to cross the narrow bridge, a pub along the route was blasting out Stealers Wheel's "Stuck in the Middle with You". Hardly obscure, but sublimely apropos. A lot of the people in the crowd started singing along. > I didn't wait long enough to get through the > whole song.... I had little choice :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 4 17:52:14 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:52:14 EDT Subject: OFF: Virtual theremin Message-ID: I just downloaded it. Too Cool! Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Apr 4 19:23:45 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Insolence) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:23:45 -0600 Subject: HW: Calvert Revenge/Rik R. In-Reply-To: <200104042056.QAA03826@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Dear Rik.._+ open space**?? just checked my CD of Revenge.....the 5th track is not listed..... I guess we can call this 10 minute lullaby "Turn Tape Over"??? PLEASE let me know if your copy doesn't have this as it means I must find one like yours, or try to convince you to sell yours to me..... I am wishing fatal Cancer upon whomever poured the beer....hope he did it on purpose.... it's been known to work.... isn't it delicious??? From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Wed Apr 4 17:50:29 2001 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:50:29 +0100 Subject: HW,NIK: Strange Trips releases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And Jim had them at Nottingham *GGGGGG* ChrisW >I see that www.strange-trips.com have some new releases - Harvey live 2000, >Anubian Lights live '99, and Farflung & Nik live at Strange Daze '99. > >-- Andy > >www.andygilham.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 4 18:45:39 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:45:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Croydon debrief In-Reply-To: <50.134ed7b5.27f10101@aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Al Ogilvy wrote: > Anyone back from Croydon with a detailed set list yet ? Love to know what > the tracks I didnt recognise were ! That review I promised: Bedouin were in fine form when we got in but they'd already had twenty minutes to warm up if they'd started when my ticket said the doors were, which was half an hour after the venue thought they were. Bastards. Never mind. Bedouin weren't being as Motorhead as usual. This is a good thing as they have a genuine space to fill doing Ozrics-ambience space metal instead. Yes, the psychedelic Motorhead tag is evident, but I was glad to see some of the Eastern promise they started with back in the flavourings. We got `One Moon Circles', which Danny the drummer fluffed, pity since it's his song, the title track of the forthcoming album, `As Above So Below', which is a corker, with a long floaty middle section that I wish they'd had Simon House (guest violin on the album) on for, `LSD', which was okay but still, despite a good metallic solo from the guitarist not as freaked-out as the Hawkwind version, and `Chasing the Dragon'. They were on form, bar Danny, but he is also so much better than he was in Hawkwind these days. Possibly just because of going faster but all the same. As far as I knew Bedouin were the only support so I was surprised to see Huw Lloyd Langton shamble on and set up his acoustic. I've seen Huw play an acoustic set before and he was less than inspired. He's a brilliant guitarist when not pissed but how good can you make an acoustic sound? Well, I got my impressions revised, he was marvellous. Song structure he had little of, his vocals were sporadic and confusing, especially for the first number, an LLG one which I didn't know (but I only know one LLG number so that's hardly surprising), but when he started `Solitary Mind Games', my first thought was that it was actually fiendishly difficult to play, which I'd never realised in the power-on versions, and also that it could be a folk number if one wanted. So one did. He carried on, though he didn't have long to play: after `Mind Games' we got another LLG number, then what started as `Rocky Paths', but at its end had the little Spanish guitar theme which brackets `The Fifth Second of Forever'; then it went through a rushed segment of that, into his `Wind of Change' and ended with that theme again, leaving the whole audience entirely spellbound. You could have heard a pin drop when he finished. And fair enough because for a quarter of an hour he'd come far closer to being a whole band than one man with a guitar really ought to be able to, and a good band at that. But, Hawkwind. They were on almost immediately, and we had no time to get tired of the feeling. Lineup was (because you never know, do you?) Jerry Richards (1st lead guitar, vocals), Alan Davey (bass guitar, sequencers, vocals), Simon House (violin), Dave Brock (guitar, keyboards, synthesizers, vocals), Richard Chadwick (drums, percussion), Keith Kniveton (generators, percolators & theramin) on all numbers, and on some or most, Ron Tree (lead vocals), Jez Huggett (saxophone, flute, zubrophone), Huw Lloyd Langton (2nd lead guitar) & Captain Rizz (vocals). General remarks: it was a damn good gig. Ron was variable, but everyone else was playing a storm. Alan's bass kept conking out; he lost power to it three times I think, which was bad, but not as bad as the one big hitch they did have, in the middle of `High Rise' where everyone except Ron and Simon appeared to go off air for no clear reason. But I'm ahead of myself. Brock even played some lead! Jerry was bloody good, and could be heard for once. Other people complained about the sound but where we were it was fine, only problem being that the bottom end of Richard's drum-kit was lost, but that is so rarely not the case I didn't notice. Keith deserves particular note though: he was spot-on with the swoosh all night, every bit just where it was wanted. Sounded like Tim Blake playing all the time, and loud enough to be able to compete with the mid-range even with three guitarists. So, slightly more chaos than the Astoria, but this is the price of spontaneity and top-class inspiration. The set-list, with comments and bracketed personnel changes, went as follows: (JR, AD, SH, RC, DB, KK, RT) Assault & Battery (Dave played lead! Alan's bass went for the first time) => Golden Void (very quick shift between the pieces, I didn't notice it straight away) => Void's End (or an outtro, anyway) (+JH) Clouded Visions (how unexpected was that? Not too bad, I was glad to hear it but I'm still not convinced it's that good a song Money is The Root of All Evil (or so `Spacebrock' now seems to be titled, having got words from Ron which I'm not convinced really fit the light-and-shade of the tune. Which isn't to say they're bad, they just fit in odd ways. But I suspect a rerecording of this is not far away) (-JH) Space is Deep (led off from Dave's keyboards, wasn't expecting that, but when it locked into the main riff it was immense, and over far too soon. I noticed the guitar go through the generators this time, very cool) => (+JH) Hippy (damn good) Flying Doctor (led into by getting the audience to chant a two-tone mantra - is this a reference to the TV show? Ron did it as Ron, not as Bob, this was good. The whole thing was good. No Brock guitar break though... ) ? (mostly spoken-word, so not `Anna Seed', I take it - the vocals started as Ron's genetics spiel, developed a refrain centered on the word `scream' then somehow turned into a druggy version of `The Owl and the Pussycat', which was completely surreal. Dave introduced the piece with "Ron's going to do something very serious now." Quality weird space noise throughout though) Angels of Death (top class, except that they slackened off for Jez to solo - yes he's very good but he can solo just as well over a band going full pelt for System Blanga, as he showed when they picked up again so why stop for him?) (-JH) High Rise (introduced by Dave setting things up and asking Simon to play the Hornpipe, "or something _serious_", while he tweaked switches. Simon stood there and did nowt until Dave was ready however, though he did then provide some of the loveliest space violin I've ever heard him play. The rest of the band however went completely oyt of the mix halfway through, and they'd been quiet up till then. So it was mostly Simon and Ron only Ron couldn't carry it and called it off before the last chorus in total confusion. At times like this I think he's lost it since 1996) (+JH) The Awakening (what would Calvert do? Recite poetry until the band gets it together! I can do that!) Standing on the Edge (he doesn't know this one very well) (-RT) You'd Better Believe It (strangely appropriate given the preceding few minutes, but very good anyway; this time they didn't stop for the sax, blanga-tastic) (+RT) The Gremlin Part 2 (+HLL) Spirit of the Age (the now-normal version with the congratulatory chant to the audience. I get tired of this one now I've refreshed my acquaintance withe the Weird version) Assassins of Allah/ (+RIZZ) Space is their Palestine/ (-RIZZ) Assassins of Allah (very good apart from Rizz, who contributed nothing) // (+RIZZ) Spiral Galaxy 28948 (as Alan said, "You haven't heard this one for about 26 years!" And yes it was great, but Hawklords, why Rizz? He put vocals on it! They were crap! Please send him home and let him get on with his own stuff, it's so much better! He doesn't do anything Ron couldn't do better these days and that's including the dancing) (-RIZZ) Motorway City Hurry On Sundown (Huw was almost inaudible through these sadly, especially since he was playing his usual parts in the former and they weren't there unless everyone else shut up. He couldn't hear himself on stage either I think and seemed to be trying to make distinctive noises so as to make out the signal like jerking at the top string. Jerry was playing guitar hero too and I'm not sure he gave Huw much room. But it was excellent anyway. I won't object if they put `Hurry on Sundown 2001' on the next album. Especially if it's still 2001 when it comes out. Bring it on!) -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Apr 4 18:29:22 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:29:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general Message-ID: Roadhawks CD? ..... are you sure about this, or is that a typo error? So you reckon part of Weird 102 in 'henge 77, I have it down as Leicester '77. What reasoning do you have for 'henge 77? Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:43 AM Subject: Re: HW: Weirdos in general > Douglas Pearson writes: > > > On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:31:31 -0700, John H. McCartney > > wrote: > > >With regards to chronological order, I do something similar > > >with how releases are ordered on lp and cd shelves. Earlier > > >"real" dates, ie. the date a show was recorded, not when it > > >was released, go right in with the studio output with that > > >year... > > > > That's how I generally do it ... > > > > >I tried just putting all the comps at the end of the pile, but > > >that didn't work well as that's where I stick collaborations > > >and F&R type things. > > > > What about the Weird CD's (see also below)? I file 101-105 > > between 'Hawklords Live' and 'Live 79'. > > > > >Anyone else have interesting solutions to this dilemma? > > > > I'm sure there are, given the number of kollektor-obsessives on this list > > Errr, do I qualify? > > > Live Record name Recorded Source Town > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Text Of Festival 18.8.70,19.4.71,19.5.71 CD+LP London > Greasy Truckers Party 13.02.72 LP London > Glastonbury Fayre 13.02.72 LP London > Brian Matthews Show 07.07.1972 LP Dunstable Queensway > BBC Transcription Disc 28.09.72 LP London Paris Cinema > Space Ritual 22 & 30.12.1972 CD+LP Liverpool & Brixton > Space Ritual II 30.12.1972 CD+LP London > Roadhawks 30.12.1972 CD+LP London > Bring Me the Head of Yuri.. 23.05.1973 CD+LP London > Hall Of The Mountain Grill 26.01.1974 CD+LP London > The 1999 Party 21.03.1974 CD Chicago > Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures27.09.1976 CD Bristol Colston Hall > Sonic Assassins 23.12.1977 EP Barnstaple > PXR5 ??.??.1977 CD+LP ???? > Hawklords Live 24.11.1978 CD Uxbridge > The Complete '79 01.12.1979+8.12.79 2CD London & St.Albans > Live 79 08.12.1979 CD+LP St.Albans Civic Hall > Glastonbury Festival 20.06.1981 Cass. Worthy Farm > Zones 31.10.82+18.12.80 CD+LP Bristol, London > Out And Intake 12.11.1982 CD+LP London+ ??? > Live 1982 13.11.1982 2CD London Hammersmith > Do Not Panic 18.12.80,20&21.6.84 CD+LP London + Stonehenge > Undisclosed Files 27.11.1984 & ?.82 &?.88 CD+LP Sheffield + ???? > Hawkfan 12" 27.11.1984 & ??? LP & Cass. Sheffield... > Chronicle of the Black Sword 22.04.85 CD+LP London+ ??? > Live Chronicles 03.12.1985 CD+LP London > Bristol Bike Show 23.08.86 LP Bristol > Live at Reading '86 24.08.1986 CD Reading Festival > Travellers Aid Trust 01.10.1988 & 23.08.86 CD+LP Clyro & Bristol > Palace Springs 10.10.1989 CD+LP Los Angeles > Glastonbury 90 24.06.1990 CD Glastonbury Fayre > California Brainstorm 16.12.1990 CD Oakland > Never Ending Story of.. 05.11.1990 CD Leicester > The Business Trip Nov-Dec.1993 CD+LP Slough,Hastings... > Love in Space 19.10.1996 CD+LP Bristol > Love in Space EP 19.10.1996 EP Bristol > Wir Sind Kinder der Revolte 21.07.1996 CD Burg Herzberg > Space Daze '97 31.08.97 CD Sherman, US > Hawkwind 1997 Various dates 1997 CD Britain > Strange Daze '98 15/08/1998 CR-R Strange Daze Fest US > In Your Area 20.11.1997 CD Ancien Belgique > W101 - Sonic Assassins 23.12.1977 Cass. Barnstaple > W102 - Hawkwind/Hawklords 22.06.1977 Cass. Stonehenge > W103 - Free Festivals 22.06.77 & 23.08.75 Cass. Watchfld&Stonehenge > W104 - Hawklords Live 23.11.1978 Cass. Plymouth > W105 - Hawkwind 76-77 05.10.76&??.06.77 Cass. London & ??? > W106 - Hawkwind 1970/73 Various dates Cass. London + ??? > W108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 Various dates Cass. > Independent Days Various dates LPs London + ??? > Friends & Relations Various dates LP&CD > Acid Daze Various dates LP&CD > Ambient Anarchists Various dates CD > Early years Live Various dates EP > Friends & Relations Various dates CD+LP > The EBS Samples Various dates CD > Golden Void 1969-1979 Various dates CD > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > > Bootleg name Recorded Source Town > ================================================================ > Kinetic Playground 13.12.1971 CD Birmingham Kinetic > Space Rock From London 28.09.1972 CD London Paris Theatre > Spacerock from London 28.09.1972 CD London > Mind Journey 10.08.1975 Acet. Glasgow > Atomhenge 76 27.09.1976 CD-R Bristol Colston Hall > Live At Watchf. and Stoneh. 22.06.77 & 23.08.75 LP Watchfield&Stonehenge > A Quark Night in Paris 23.04.1977 CD-R Paris > Live at the Bottom Line 06.03.1978 LP New York > Live-St.Albans '79 08.12.1979 CD St.Albans > Golden Void 19.10.1982 LP Glasgow > Live At Stonehenge 22.06.1983 LP Stonehenge > Damnation Alley 04.10.1989 CD-R Minneapolis > Cyberspace Conspiracy 25.01.1990 LP Nottingham > Kings Of Speed, LoL 08.10.1991 CD Bochum > Secret Tepee 19.05.1992 CD-R Reading > Rock City 16.11.1993 CD Nottingham > The A Files 23.04.1995 CD-R Boulder > Orgasmatron different dates CD > Dawn of Hawkwind different dates CD > Assasins Of Allah different dates LP > Nova Drive different dates CD-R > Timeless Paens different dates CD-R > Corridor of Flame different dates CD-R > Theta Orionis 25.01.90 & 11.11.93 CD Nottingham,Cambridge > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Nova Drive 1995/9 CD-R (Discontent DISC20470 - US) > ---------- > > 4pg inlay with blank foldout. Cover with white background. Very few > released with a slightly different cover - light grey background. The > very small run of a total of 35 pcs depended on the appearance of "Terra > Mystica", which made Doug Smith roar a bit. The last track is a chant > from the middle of LSD. > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Born To Go 28.05.84 Ramsgate, Marina Park > Spirit of the Age 13.11.94 Koln, Live Music Hall > Nova Drive 10.11.80 Doncaster, Rotters > Alien 23.04.95 Boulder, Fox Theatre > Silver Machine 08.04.95 Springfield, Jaxx > Sputnik Stan 23.04.95 Boulder, Fox Theatre > Wastelands 22.04.88 London, Hammy Odeon > Cold War Kid 06.10.78 Oxford, New Theatre > Damage of Life 03.06.89 Woolwich, Coronet > Paradox 08.11.86 Birmingham, Odeon > Magnu 07.10.89 San Francisco, Stone > Doremifasolatido 23.04.89 Boulder, Fox Theatre > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Timeless Paens 1996 CD-R (Nova Drive - US) > -------------- > > Standard CD-Recordable disc. Tracks recorded from various venues and > dates, mainly from late 80's or later. The idea was to have new (80's & > 90's) versions of Space Ritual-era songs. Some in the early run had a > defect with a lot of sparkle, cracks and dropouts. > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Brainstorm 18.05.1991 Detroit Latin Quarter > Paranoia 12.10.1991 Tilburg Nooderligt > Down Through The Night 07.10.1989 San Francisco Stone > You Shouldn't Do That 23.04.1995 Boulder Fox Theatre > Urban Guerilla 23.04.1995 Boulder Fox Theatre > Only Dreamning 13.11.1994 Koln Live Music Hall > Born To Go 21.02.1984 Sheffield City Hall > 10 Seconds Of Forever 21.02.1984 Sheffield City Hall > 7 By 7 24.04.1992 Brighton Event > Time We Left 24.04.1992 Brighton Event > Master Of The Universe 17.05.1991 St.Catherines Hideaway > Be Yourself 25.04.1993 Tilburg Nooderligt > Sonic Attack 22.04.1988 London Hammersmith > Silver Machine 13.10.1981 Bradford St.Georges Hall > Welcome 23.04.1995 Boulder Fox Theatre > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Corridor Of Flame 1996 CD-R (Nova Drive - US) > ----------------- > > 4pg inlay with 'Golden Void' lyrics. Both disc and front cover is numbered. > Two different tracklist versions exist - with or without "Time for Sale" > Tracks is recorded from various venues and dates, over the whole career of > Hawkwind. > > First appearance of Beast of Chaos and Waiting for My Man. > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Tech.of Spaceship Earth 13.12.71 Birmingham Kinetic Playground > Void of Golden Light 23.04.95 Boulder Fox Theatre > Lost Chronicles 01.10.88 Clyro Court Festival > Mark of Cain 01.06.85 Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hall > The Secret Agent 29.04.93 Utrecht Tivoli > Beast of Chaos 16.10.71 Potter's Bar Elm Court > Crystal Void 06.07.91 London Brixton Academy > Steppenwolf 12.11.82 Hammersmith Odeon > Lord of Light 28.10.95 Berlin Marquee > Cajun Jinx 27.11.86 Hammersmith Odeon > Phone Home Elliott 15.11.82 Chippenham Goldigger's Club > Age of the Micro Man 05.04.95 St.Catherine's Hideaway > Waiting For My Man 27.02.77 London Roundhouse > PXR5 06.12.79 Preston Guild Hall > The Golden Void 27.10.81 Oxford Apollo Theatre > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Orgasmatron 1992 (Bootleg CD) (Cargo CARGOCD22 - UK) > ----------- > > 2pg inlay - flipside is blank. Sleeve notes. Limited edition of 500 copies. > First album appearance of New Jerusalem and Starfarers Despatch. > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > The Right Stuff 16.04.85 ECT TV Soundtrack > Angels of Death 16.04.85 ECT TV Soundtrack > New Jerusalem 04.12.79 Ipswich Gaumont > Starfarers Despatch 12.12.71 Birmingham Kinetic Playground > Master of the Universe 12.12.71 Birmingham Kinetic Playground > Mask of Morning 24.04.92 Brighton Event > Images 02.07.90 Bournemouth Academy > Brainstorm 20.06.84 Stonehenge > Magnu 24.08.85 Crystal Palace > Shot Down In The Night 22.04.88 Hammersmith Odeon > Silver Machine 12.12.71 Birmingham Kinetic Playground > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > The Text Of Festival: Live 1970-2 (Illuminated/DemiMonde 1983) > -------------------- > > Sides 1 and 2 reissued as In The Beginning & Masters of the Universe > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Master Of The Universe 18.08.70 London > Dreaming 18.08.70 London > Shouldn't Do That 18.08.70 London > Hurry On A Sundown 05.11.70 London > Paranoia 05.11.70 London > Seeing It As.... 05.11.70 London > I Do It 05.11.70 London > Sound..Shouldn't... 19.04.71 London > Improvise..Compromise.. 19.05.71 London > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Assassins of Allah 1994 Bootleg LP (blank label, HWD3 in runout groove - UK) > ------------------ > > Poor man 'inlay' cover with a 3" wraparound. Limited edition of 300 > copies, numbered. Contains rare Hawkwind vinyl tracks. Cover art is a > sacred Islam painting. > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Master of the Universe Greasy Truckers Party > Born To Go Greasy Truckers Party > Silver Machine Glastonbury Fayre > Welcome to the Future Glastonbury Fayre > Assassins of Allah Live at Reading '86 > Master of the Universe Bristol Bikeshow > Paranoia Bristol Bikeshow > Silver Machine Bristol Bikeshow > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Greasy Trucker's Party (with various artists) (UA) > ---------------------- > > One of two Double LP recordings of multiple artists from the "Greasy > Truckers Party". > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Master of the Universe 13.02.72 London Roundhouse > Born To Go 13.02.72 London Roundhouse > > Glastonbury Fayre (with various artists) (Revelation) > ----------------- > > Triple LP of various artists at early Glastonbury Festivals at Worthy > Farm. While Hawkwind did appear in the early days, and in fact had early > rehearsals at the farm, the track on the album was from the Greasy > Truckers Party. > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Silver Machine 13.02.72 London Roundhouse > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Brian Matthews Show : BBC Transcription Disk 1972 > ------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Silver Machine 07.07.72 Dunstable Queensway Hall > Brainstorm 07.07.72 Dunstable Queensway Hall > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Dawn Of Hawkwind 1994 CD Bootleg > ---------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Silver Machine BBC Brian Mathews Show > Brainstorm BBC Brian Mathews Show > Master of the Universe Greasy Truckers > Announcements Greasy Truckers > Born To Go Greasy Truckers > Silver Machine Glastonbury Fayre > Welcome to the Future Glastonbury Fayre > Dawn/Sunrise 28.06.72 Trentishoe > Frisco Jam 17.12.90 San Francisco > Silver Machine Bristol Bikeshow > Paranoia Bristol Bikeshow > Master of the Universe Bristol Bikeshow > Needle Gun 19.11.85 Aberdeen Capitol > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Hall Of The Mountain Grill > -------------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > You'd Better Believe It 26.01.74 London Edmonton Sundown > Paradox 26.01.74 London Edmonton Sundown > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > > PXR5 (Charisma 1978) > > The original LP came with a wrongly wired plug on the back cover which > was covered with a sticker and finallt removed in later releases. > The original LP also came with an offer to obtain Pete Frame's Hawkwind > Family Tree Poster. The version of High Rise on the CD is different to > that on the LP. > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Uncle Sam's On Mars late.77 ? ? > Robot late.77 ? ? > High Rise [LP] late.77 ? ? > High Rise [CD] late.77 ? ? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Zones (Flicknife 1983) > ----- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > The Island 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon > Motorway City 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon > Utopia 84 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall > Social Alliance 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall > Sonic Attack 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall > Dream Worker 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall > Brainstorm 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Stonehenge (This Is Hawkwind/Do Not Panic) (Flicknife 1984 LP & EP) > ---------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Psy Power 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon > Levitation 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon > Circles 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon > Space Chase 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon > Death Trap 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon > Angels Of Death 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon > Shot Down In The Night 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon > Stonehenge Decoded 21.06.84 Stonehenge Festival > Watching The Grass Grow 20.06.84 Stonehenge Festival > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Undisclosed Files (1995 LP) > ----------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Orgone Accumulator 27.11.84 Sheffield University > Sonic Attack 27.11.84 Sheffield University > Watching The Grass Grow 27.11.84 Sheffield University > Curse of Man 27.11.84 Sheffield University > Ghost Dance [CD] 27.11.84 Sheffield University > Master ot Universe [LP] late.88 ? ? > Coded Languages [LP] late.88 ? ? > Coded Languages [CD] late.88 ? ? > Ejection late.88 ? ? > Motorway City late.88 ? ? > Dragons and Fables late.88 ? ? > Heads late.88 ? ? > Angels of Death late.88 ? ? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Out & Intake > ------------ > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Turner Point late.82 ? ? (soundcheck) > Waiting for Tomorrow late.82 ? ? > Solitary Mind Games late.82 ? ? > Assassins of Allah ??.??.86 ? ? > Ghost Dance late.82 ? ? > Warrior on the Edge[CD] 12.11.82 London Hammersmith Odeon > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Travellers Aid Trust (Double LP 1988) > -------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Brainstorm 23.08.86 Bristol Custom Bike Show > Blue Dreamer 23.08.86 Bristol Custom Bike Show > Washing Machine 01.10.1988 Clyro Court > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > THETA ORIONIS [Bootleg CD - UK 1996) > ------------- > > 4pg inlay with pics of Calvert in psychedelia pattern. Pic disc. > Contains various live tracks, BBC session and rare vinyl tracks. > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Night of the Hawk 25.01.90 Nottingham Rock City > Back In The Box 25.01.90 Nottingham Rock City > Right To Decide 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction > Quark,Strangeness&Charm 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction > LSD 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction > Camera That Could Lie 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction > Assasins of Allah 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Weird 101 - Sonic Assassins/ Dave Brock > --------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Over the Top 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall > Magnu 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall > Angels of Life 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall > Freefall 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall > Death Trap 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords > --------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Quark,Strangeness&Charm 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival > Masters of the Universe 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival > Welcome to the Future 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival > Spirit of the Age 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival > Sonic Attack 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Watchfield/Stonehenge (Festival HAWK1 - UK LP) [Also Weird 103] > --------------------- > > Original has "Hawkwind Roadies Erecting Scenery" cover. Label says band > is "The Hawks", credit goes to "Bob and the Hawks" Rereleased in various > covers and with various titles, "Live and Buzzing", "Alive and Kicking" > and "Live at Stonehenge". Bootleg of Weird 103 tape. > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > High Rise 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival > Damnation Alley 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival > Uncle Sam's on Mars 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival > Robot 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival > Cake Out 23.08.75 Watchfield Festival > Circles 23.08.75 Watchfield Festival > Elements 23.08.75 Watchfield Festival > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 > ---------------------------- > > There were two versions of this tape released, the second being released > when the earlier one was withdrawn. > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > (a) > Back on the Streets 05.10.76 London Hammersmith > Paranoia 05.10.76 London Hammersmith > Chronoglide Skyway 05.10.76 London Hammersmith > Back on the Streets 05.10.76 London Hammersmith > Assassins of Allah 27.02.77 London Roundhouse > Forge of Vulcan 27.02.77 London Roundhouse > Steppenwolf 27.02.77 London Roundhouse > (b) > Brainstorm 27.02.77 London Roundhouse > Wind of Change 27.02.77 London Roundhouse > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 > --------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Born To Go 13.02.72 London Roundhouse > Master of the Universe 13.02.72 London Roundhouse > Jam 13.02.72 London Roundhouse > Hurry on Sundown Text of Festival > Came Home ??.??.70 Notting Hill > We Do It Text of Festival > Earth Calling ??.??.72 ??? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 > --------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Space is Deep Space Ritual > Live and Let Live late.73 USA > Etchanatae late.73 USA > Dreaming Text of Festival > Shouldn't Do That Text of Festival > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Independent Days > ---------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Over the Top Weird 101 > Who's Gonna Win... Weird 101 > Angels Of Death Do Not Panic > Watching The Grass... Do Not Panic > Assault And Battery 03.12.85 London Hammersmith (Live Chronicles) > Sleep Of 1000 Tears 03.12.85 London Hammersmith (Live Chronicles) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > The Chronicle Of The Black Sword > -------------------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > [Dojo CD & Griffin CD] > > The War I Survived 22.04.88 London Hammersmith > Voice Inside My Head 22.04.88 London Hammersmith > > [Flicknife CD] > > Assault & Battery Independent Days > Sleep of 1000 Tears Independent Days > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > The Emergency Broadcast System Samples > -------------------------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > The Camera That... The Business Trip > Green Finned Demon The Business Trip > Coded Languages Undisclosed Files > Angels of Death Undisclosed Files > Xenomorph Love in Space > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Bristol Custom Bike Show (GWR) > ------------------------ > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Master Of The Universe 23.08.86 Bristol > Silver Machine 23.08.86 Bristol > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > The Ambient Anarchists > ---------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Urban Guerilla Acid Daze > Motorway City Undisclosed Files > TV Suicide California Brainstorm > Camera That Could Lie The Business Trip > LSD The Business Trip > Love in Space 14.04.96 VH-1 Show > Green Finned Demon The Business Trip > Space Is Their... Love in Space > Hassan I Sabha Love in Space > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Wir sind Kinder der Revolte Vol 1. > ---------------------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Love in Space 21.07.96 Burg Herzberg Festival > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Acid Daze > --------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > High Rise Weird 103 > Spirit of the Age Live '79 > Urban Guerilla same as Live '79 > Masters of the Universe Late '80 > World of Tiers Late '80 > Who's Gonna Win the War Glastonbury '81 > Ghost Dance late.82 ? ? > Earth Calling ??.??.72 ? ? > Motorhead Independent Days > Watchfield Festival Weird 103 > Magnu Weird 101 > Angels Of Death Weird 101 > Hashcake '77 Weird 103 > Quark,Strangeness&Charm Weird 102 > Born To Go Greasy Truckers Party > Space Is Deep Space Ritual > You Shouldn't Do That Space Ritual > Seeing It As... Space Ritual > Hurry On Sundown Text of Festival > Came Home Weird 106 > We Do It Text of Festival > Silver Machine late.81 ? ? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > Friends And Relations > --------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > The Golden Void 23.12.77 Barnstaple (Sonic Assassins) > Who's Gonna Win The War Weird 101 > Robot Weird 103 > Earth Calling ??.??.72 ??? > We do It Text of Festival > Spirit of the Age Weird 102 > Psychedelia Lives Glastonbury 1981 > Drug Cabinet Key Weird 105 > Over the Top Sonic Assassins > Psy Power Do Not Panic > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > The Early Years Live (EP 1991) > -------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Silver Machine Acid Daze > Spirit of the Age Live '79 > Urban Guerilla Live '79 single b-side > Born to Go Greasy Truckers > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > 1986 Hawkfan 12" > ----------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Countdown BBC Transcription Disc > Ejection 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall > Ghost Dance 27.11.84 Sheffield University > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > 1997 Love in Space EP > ---------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Lord of Light 19.10.1996 Bristol > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > 1999 Strange Daze '97 > ---------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Kauai 31.08.1997 Sherman, USA > Brainstorm 31.08.1997 Sherman, USA > Hawkwind In Your Area 31.08.1997 Sherman, USA > Hassan I Sabha 31.08.1997 Sherman, USA > Space Is Their Palestine31.08.1997 Sherman, USA > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > 1999 Hawkwind 1997 CD > ---------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Wheels 19.10.1997 Glasgow, The Garage > Phetamine Street 27.10.1997 Leeds, The Irish centre > Fantasy 08.10.1997 Norwich, U.E.A. > Alchemy 06.11.1997 Newport, Centre > Love in Space 06.11.1997 Newport, Centre > Aerospaceage Inferno 23.10.1997 Liverpool, Empire > Sonic Attack 23.10.1997 Liverpool, Empire > Blue Skin 10.10.1997 Colchester, Charter Hall > Brainstorm-Turner/ > Hawkwind In Your Area 23.10.1997 Liverpool, Empire > Reptoid Vision/ > Keeper of the Reptoid 23.10.1997 Liverpool, Empire > Ejection 05.11.1997 Paighnton Festival > Gremlin Part II 05.11.1997 Paighnton Festival > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > 1999 In Your Area CD > --------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Brainstorm/ > Hawkwind In Your Area 20.11.1997 Ancien Belgigue, Brussells > Alchemy 20.11.1997 Ancien Belgigue, Brussells > Love in Space/ > Rat Race 20.11.1997 Ancien Belgigue, Brussells > Aerospaceage Inferno 20.11.1997 Ancien Belgigue, Brussells > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > 1999 Strange Daze '98 > ---------------------- > Compilation from the Strange Daze Festival 15/8/98 released > with Time & Space Fanzine issue 7. > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Hippy 15.08.1998 Strange Daze Festival, USA > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > 1999 Golden Void 1969-1979 CD > ----------------------------- > > Not the same as the vinyl Bootleg of the same name. > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > We Do It Text of Festival > Earth Calling ??.??.72 ??? > Spirit of the Age 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival > Robot 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival > Over the Top 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall > Freefall 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall > Death Trap 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall > Golden Void 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > 1999 The Complete '79 > --------------------- > > TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE > > Shot Down in the Night 08.12.79 St.Albans > Motorway City 01.12.79 London Hammersmith > Spirit Of The Age 01.12.79 London Hammersmith > Urban Guerilla 01.12.79 London Hammersmith > Who's Gonna Win The War? 01.12.79 London Hammersmith > World Of Tiers 01.12.79 London Hammersmith > New Jerusalem 01.12.79 London Hammersmith > Lighthouse 01.12.79 London Hammersmith > Brainstorm 01.12.79 London Hammersmith > The Phenomenon of Luminosity 01.12.79 London Hammersmith > PXR5 01.12.79 London Hammersmith > Master Of The Universe 01.12.79 London Hammersmith > Silver Machine 01.12.79 London Hammersmith > Levitation 01.12.79 London Hammersmith > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 4 18:55:45 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:55:45 +0100 Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > 3.L.S.D. (why is this the _only track_ I like on Etepee?? either i'm crazy or > the rest of you are...:) But, but: `Secret Agent'! How can anyone not like `Secret Agent'? Yours bemusedly, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Apr 4 19:58:24 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Insolence) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:58:24 -0600 Subject: Roadhawks CD/ JD Message-ID: JD questioned of Doug P: Roadhawks CD? Yeah Doug! Roadhawks CD???? I think he's been making CD's for himself again..... Doug! we're waiting...... shoulder peeling From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Apr 4 20:05:39 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Insolence) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:05:39 -0600 Subject: (OFF) to JJarrett In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jon.. sent you another mail that bounced....I'll go back and reread your instruction... just was telling you your SR review was good... and that CD title I gave you ends in GATE, not GATES.....in case that matters, and it's on LIQUID SOUND VISION...CD003.... peace (mike coleman) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 4 19:06:44 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:06:44 +0100 Subject: HW: 70's versus now In-Reply-To: <002501c0b6db$f175dbe0$e7d1b718@cc177845c> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, John Majka wrote: > Stonehenge: This is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic--I love this album! In fact > it's one of my very favorites. That version of Psi Power is incredible! and > Zones--some of the production sounds like it could be a home studio > recording, but it doesn't matter a bit. After all, Guided By Voices are > brilliant and most of their albums are recorded on 4-tracks or just a > handheld recorder. Highlights: that great Huw Lloyd-Langton lead on "The > Island," Moorcock's dementedly inflectionless "Running Through the > Backbrain" and of course a great rendition of "Social Alliance." And you > people badmouth this album?!? Well, for me it's the fact that they're bits-and-pieces jobs. I entirely agree that the stuff TIHDNP is top-flight, but only two tracks of it are from the line-up that issued the album. _Zones_ even more so, out-takes and unused live material which at the time must have made it look sadly as if the band was out of material. Much like the last two years really... But there's just a flicker of new things happening now, so... > Out and Intake--I bought this the day of its release and just thought "Wow!" > when I heard it, because it was so relatively psychedelic compared to the > Black Sword album that preceded it. "Cajun Jinx" is one of my all-time > favorite HW songs! But again, only three new songs and the rest 7 years old already. I agree with you about the rest of the albums' quality by and large but I don't think there's any arguing that mid-eighties Hawkwind were treading water rather. > In Your Area--low on "new" material but heavy on revitalized live and > reworked studio stuff, this album is very solid! That performance of "Love > in Space" segueing into "Aerospaceage Inferno" is one of the most beautiful > things anywhere... Why is it so butchered and short though? The LiS I mean; no more than eight bars of the refrain either side of `Rat Race'. Maybe that's the point, but I wonder why they included it at all given they were quite happy to chop away all of `Reptoid Vision' except the new mid-section. The `Aerospaceage Inferno' is great though. Nonetheless, the album seems to have been done by three bands almost, the touring HW, Dave by himself, and the others by themselves, it doesn't feel like a band effort. > Well after having summarized each album I feel that I haven't really said > that much but have really just devolved into fanboy slobbering, which is > fine since it shows how loved these records are.... basically I am just > saying that post-1979 Hawkwind is just as valuable as that of the 1970's. > In fact, I probably listen to and enjoy the newer Hawkwind more than the > older Hawkwind. I'm not sure which I focus on. I tend to carry music about with me because of frequently not being at home for a few days, and there's almost always 1 Hawkwind album in the 20 odd or so I keep pooled wherever I am, but no particular period. Except that if I'm tired when I'm packing them up it'll almost always be ISoS, DFL or _Space Ritual_ but then they suit that state quite well :-) Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Apr 4 19:09:48 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:09:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general In-Reply-To: <006601c0bd59$056f67a0$6b46883e@jezd> Message-ID: In article <006601c0bd59$056f67a0$6b46883e at jezd>, J D writes >Roadhawks CD? ..... are you sure about this, or is that a typo error? >So you reckon part of Weird 102 in 'henge 77, I have it down as Leicester >'77. >What reasoning do you have for 'henge 77? The info I was sent when the tape was originally released said that the 77 stuff on Weird 102 was recorded at Oxford and Stonehenge. -- David Blair From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 4 19:10:31 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:10:31 +0100 Subject: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list In-Reply-To: <3AC0C940.3080500@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > Yes I have NEVER understood what people didn't like about Alien 4. I > have loved it since the first day. Especially the mid to end of the > CD. Simply outstanding work. Well, I'm not too enamoured of `Alien I Am', actually , and `Kapal' and `Journeys' both strike me as lumpen and uncomfortable. `Beam Me Up' has four or five potential songs in there and it seems like rather than make it out of the two or three good bits they had to use all of it; I think if they'd stuck to the first, middle and last sections it would be massively improved and if it was arranged like that live I think it would also be an unexpected killer. But what I basically have against the album is that you don't need it if you have _Love in Space_ as all the good songs are on that and done much better. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 4 19:13:37 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:13:37 +0100 Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) In-Reply-To: <200103271859.NAA29066@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, K Henderson wrote: > JR said... > > >Mind you I > >don't know if anyone remembers the compilation album Repeat Performance > >released by Charisma some time around 1979. > > Yeah, I'm sure there's nobody here who has a copy of that! :) I don't > actually have one, myself, it being redundant, but I know my brother has one. Dammit, I nearly bought it twice when I was younger; a stall in Watford had (might still have, who can say, though this was three years ago now) a cassette copy; no idea whether that's rare or not but I would love to have picked it up now just to contend your assumption. Alas, I didn't... But next time I'm in Watford I shall look. They may still have that copy of _What's Words Worth_ they appeared unable to shift also. > Well, Tales from Atomhenge fills that void easily. Nearly twice the length, > too. Not good enough! I must own them all including the deleted Griffin version of ASAM with the singles on as bonus tracks! Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 4 19:16:39 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:16:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? In-Reply-To: <3AC1E607.5CFC6F46@tiac.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Chris Raymond wrote: > I have not seen HW since 1997. I am from the USA so the chances of me > seeing them again without going overseas seems slimmer than ever. I am > really grateful for the times that I have seem HW live, so even if > they do not come back to America. I will have the memories of a > lifetime. And if HW cdr trees continue to be made available then I > will be more than content. The sound on Astoria Totalrock was superb. > Can't wait for the full release! Chris I'm hearing conflicting things about this. In the online chat the other day Dave appeared to say that it was off to the pressing plant already, or pretty close to. But when I spoke to Alan Davye about this Cambridge gig he was saying that the Totalrcok recording was only in two-track, and therefore umixable, and that the band's own recordings wasn't really up to Dave's standards either. So I wonder what it is we're getting? Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 4 19:20:18 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:20:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6D97@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > WHAT does BLANGA mean? I keep seeing it but it is unfamiliar to > me?????STEPHE Since no-one else seems to have done so, may I direct you to: , which puts it very much better than I could :-) Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Apr 4 20:23:41 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Insolence) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:23:41 -0600 Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: JJ said RE: Repeat Performance: * Snip* "a cassette copy; no idea whether that's rare or not".... Correct me if you care..but I seem to recall "nabbing" a friends cassette with gusto, as I think this includes "Dream of Isis"....which was the only original anti-crackle copy you could get..... b(eye) m From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 4 19:23:37 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:23:37 +0100 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Paul Mather wrote: > Incidentally, haven't you realised that WWW sites have been doing this > for ages (assuming you have cookies enabled)? It is becoming more > prevalent as folks jump on the "personalisation" bandwagon. Yes, but people can't bombard an IP address with commercial junkmail. Well, they can, but unless you web-browse from your mail- server it won't do them any good. I realise there are lots of problems with cookie-tracking (and reasons for it too), but this at least is one it doesn't have that your Reward cards or whatever do. I'd be slightly more swayed if the occasional money-off-beer vouchers that my fiancee gets from Sainsbury's brought their beer down to Tescos prices mind you but it doesn't so temptation cannot impeach me. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 4 19:31:27 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:31:27 +0100 Subject: HW: A Question r In-Reply-To: <001f01c0b81d$1d5efa60$8cb23bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Bill & Cynthia wrote: > I've been meaning for a while to ask whether Hawkwind has ever done this > song - "The Weighing of the Heart and Negative Confession?" > > I found it on Napster and downloaded it. It certainly sounds like HW. > It goes BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA.... > > Can anyone tell me anything about it. Lots of answers already, but: there are two versions, both by Nik Turner, where that means Pressurehed of LA with Nik blowing on the sax, flute and vocals tracks afterwards. The `original' is off _Sphynx_ (Cleopatra 1993) but there is also a "`Travel' Remix" to be found on a compilation called _Sonic Attack 2001_ (Dossier 1996) which is to my mind rather more satisfying. It also has Helios Creed of Chrome playing largely inaudible lead guitar. Credits are to Nik, Wayne James (producer), Tommy Grenas and Len Del Rio (Pressurehed). It's based on the segue between `Hall of Double Truth' and `Anubis' from the original Sphynx album, _Xitintoday_, but though the words are the same (from the Egyptian Book of the Dead) they're given in full in this version and the music is all new apart from flute samples from the old album. That's all I can tell you :-) Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 4 19:35:37 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:35:37 -0400 Subject: Off: Soft Boys 03/31/2001 Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:51:10 -0500, Dan Witt wrote: >Anybody interested in the Soft Boys? I taped them 03-31 at first avenue, >with dpa 4061s to line in DAT. It's a 90 minute show, they did some good >songs, and a nice Astronomy Domine. It would be on 2 cdrs. Ah yes, I'm looking forward to the Soft Boys showing up in San Francisco. I was a *huge* Robyn Hitchcock fan in the late 80's (I think at the time, I voted for 'I Often Dream of Trains' as best album of the decade), but I haven't felt much desire to listen to his solo albums since then (but I'd still defend '...Trains' as *brilliant* - an emotionally-easy record it is NOT). However, I still listen to the three Soft Boys albums regularly, and the recent Matador reissue of 'Underwater Moonlight' is one of the most gorgeous reissue packages EVER (triple LP in triptych sleeve with bonus 7", liners and poster). -Doug ceres at sirius.com P.S. Trivia question - who can identify the Soft Boys album that references Hawkwind in the liner notes? From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 4 19:36:16 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:36:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Careful use of the saxophone In-Reply-To: <000f01c0b827$efd198e0$8f38fa8a@resnet.cranfield.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Mark Jermy wrote: > a question for those who've seen Jez Huggett on stage with HW: what do you > think of the way he plays the sax? I like the presence of the sax, but I > think he plays it in a very different way to Nik. Of course, Jez is bound to > come in for some criticism because he'll always be compared to Nik, and he > will always do things in his own style i.e. slightly differently. However, I > feel there is a fundamental difference: Nik always played coherent muscial > structures, usually going smoothly up and down that scale (this is true also > of his playing with ICU), whereas Jez' style seems more like jazz sax which > includes dissonant leaps over large parts of the scale. I've never found > this very pleasant, it seems gratituous to me. What do you think folks? I think he's a tremendously good player, in as you say a jazz style, though I thought his break on `Angels of Death' at the Astoria is as yet unequalled. He's better on the saxophone than Nik in terms of anything except having fun, although Nik doesn;t actually play so badly these days, always in tune at least now which you can tell from the old recordings even if like me you didn't see it wasn't always the case. My only problem with JH is that at Croydon the band slowed down the number to let him solo. They wouldn't do it for any other member of the band and they're not playing jazz so stop that and carry on with the blanga, say I, because his solo is much more impressive when it somehow blends with a band going at it hammer and tongs than it is when that's all there is to listen to. That's my take on it anyway. > Does anyone know if Jez plays the flute? I thought I saw a flute in his rack > on stage at Croydon but don't remember it being played. Much underestimated > rock instrument I think. I've always liked Nik's flute contributions, as > well as Ian Anderson's in Jethro Tull. Yes, he does, but then Nik's actually quite good at flute and I couldn't really hear JH when he was playing it so I'm loath to make the comparison here. Interested in some views from anyone who actually plays the things though. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 4 19:46:02 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:46:02 -0400 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: A bunch of crap lyrics I wrote that contain movie spoilers (you have been warned) are probably the last thing you want to read, but ... (hit delete quick! or spot the reference to a Dave Brock solo album ... and if you heard the song you could also figure out which BOC tune the signature riff was inavertently "borrowed" from) ... "Professor Q" (lyrics copyright D. Pearson 1998 ... or was it '99?) Extending Underground Primordial bipeds found Anthropological luck Until hard metal is struck Was it a Nazi fake When scientists take Decaying grasshoppers >From Hobb's Lane of unnatural supers? Strange lights and evil sounds In nightmare hallucinations your mind will drown Malevolant alien energies thrive And if they're unleased ... then you may not survive It's often not wise To televise >From the awe and quiet To psychotic riot Telepathic aggression Telekinetic oppression Kill the maddening sounds When the crane earths it to ground ---------------------------------- That's the third verse. There's no second verse 'cause I haven't seen that one yet! -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:11:33 -0400, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] wrote: >Calling Dr. Quatermass!!!!!!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Layla Thompson [SMTP:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:37 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent > > Hodds End station......? > Decaying grasshoppers......? > > What on earth is this all about....!? > > > Layla From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 4 19:51:36 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:51:36 -0400 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:09:48 +0100, Tigger wrote: >In article <006601c0bd59$056f67a0$6b46883e at jezd>, J D > writes >>Roadhawks CD? ..... are you sure about this, or is that a typo error? BTW that was Mike (FoFP), not me, who posted the list with the 'Roadhawks' CD ... I'm certainly not aware of one. >>So you reckon part of Weird 102 in 'henge 77, I have it down as Leicester >>'77. >>What reasoning do you have for 'henge 77? > >The info I was sent when the tape was originally released said that the >77 stuff on Weird 102 was recorded at Oxford and Stonehenge. Bernhard would probably have to be the one to verify it, but I was under the impression that Stonehenge 77 was about the only time the House/Shaw/King lineup played "Quark, Strangeness & Charm" (according to his list of tapes, the only other time before '93, when it was rearranged for the 'Business Trip' tour, was two months later at the Reading festival). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 4 19:57:43 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:57:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Careful use of the saxophone In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010329154639.024692e0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > Totally ACK! Denis! We are human beings, not telnet stacks! To anyone not wise in the ways of such things, but for example raised on veteran American comic strip Pogo, that's a noise such as one would make on swallwoing a frog... > Nope. > HW isn't a shitty boyband. Look is totally irrelevant, only the music is of > importance! There are so many different looks going in Hawkwind at thebest of times I see no problem with this one. It's just a little, well, associated. > I also hope that the current line-up (are Simon & Alan back for good, or > "just" permanent guests?), which is fabulous and the best in years, will > start recording a studio album. If they put as much energy and effort into > it as they put into the last gigs, it will be real masterpiece. I most heartily second that, though I still would have liked to see my reunion album idea with everyone guesting in various places. Ah well... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 4 19:58:42 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:58:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Careful use of the saxophone In-Reply-To: <200103291609.LAA14408@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > Absolutely spot on. Lock the boys (sorry geezers) in the studio when these > gigs have finished, and don't let them out until a prime 2001 Space Rock > odyssey masterpiece has been completed. (Nourishment breaks to be allowed > at a rate of, say, one meal per riff. I am a reasonable man and wouldn't > want them to suffer.) Exactly. It works for electing a pope and it could work for us :-) Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Apr 4 21:22:56 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:22:56 -0400 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Jon Jarrett wrote: => On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Paul Mather wrote: => => > Incidentally, haven't you realised that WWW sites have been doing this => > for ages (assuming you have cookies enabled)? It is becoming more => > prevalent as folks jump on the "personalisation" bandwagon. => => Yes, but people can't bombard an IP address with commercial => junkmail. Well, they can, but unless you web-browse from your mail- => server it won't do them any good. I realise there are lots of problems => with cookie-tracking (and reasons for it too), but this at least is one it => doesn't have that your Reward cards or whatever do. Okay, whilst we're on the subject of what "Reward cards" can and can't do: - They can't follow your every movement through the store, keeping a note of every aisle you walk up and down. - They can't keep a record of every item you pick up or consider buying. - They can't keep a note of how long you spend in certain areas of the store. - They can't tailor the in-store ads depending upon where you've just been and where you've been in the past - They can't physically re-model the store layout depending upon your past shopping profile. ...at least not yet. :-) Given that many WWW sites will no longer work without cookies enabled (and increasingly, many *require* you to register with them), I would say WWW sites are far more intrusive on privacy that "Reward cards." Unless I am missing something obvious, nothing compels a shopper to use a "Reward card," or coupons, or any store money-saving incentive. All stores I know of can be shopped with or without "Reward cards," yet the same is often not true of WWW sites. As for junk mail, give a fictitious address on the application if you don't want any. The fact that DMVs have started selling photo ID data to private organisations willing to pay the asking price irks me a lot more than "Reward cards." That, and the fact that Virginia Tech insists on putting my SSN and date of birth on my student ID (I'm sure mother's maiden name is next:)... :-( Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Apr 4 21:21:24 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:21:24 -0400 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices Message-ID: Paul wrote... >Unless I am missing something obvious, nothing compels a shopper to use >a "Reward card," or coupons, or any store money-saving incentive. All >stores I know of can be shopped with or without "Reward cards," yet the >same is often not true of WWW sites. Yeah, ok, but I *need* groceries. As far as I can tell, I don't need to go to any websites at all really. (Well, that's actually debatable.) :) And ok, yeah, I'm free to pay more for my groceries to not have the card, but why the *$@#!)$ should I?! And you might think I'd be 'saving money,' but I believe that the 'reward' is theirs. I'm not inclined to spend the time and effort to do 'opportunistic shopping,' which is the way to truly save money (relative to the average person who doesn't pay much attention) I suppose. The problem is...they force you to play their game, or waste money. Commodities like groceries should be a simple thing....you need something, you buy something. End of story. Grakkl (FAA) From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Apr 4 23:13:51 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:13:51 -0400 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: <200104050232.WAA22274@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, K Henderson wrote: => money. Commodities like groceries should be a simple thing....you need => something, you buy something. End of story. Commodities like groceries are a simple thing. I find it hard to believe it is apparently so complicated in Ohio... Here is a handy guide to dispel the complexity, if ever you come to Blacksburg: Food Lion is cheaper than Kroger, but Kroger has a bigger selection (and nicer produce). Wal-Mart is probably cheapest of all, but you have to drive out to Christiansburg, which is a hassle with which I can't bother myself. Harris Teeter were forced out of business during a price war with Kroger (who took over the store). Kroger have also forced locals Wades' South Main store out of business. Kroger have their best deals (including triple coupons sometimes) around the start of semester, to attract customer loyalty. (Then they put the prices back to normal.) All these stores have a rigmarole should you decide to pay with a cheque. I hope this helps. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Apr 4 23:48:07 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:18:07 +0930 Subject: warning : snow white is back Message-ID: Once again watch out for emails with hahaha snow white and the seven dwarfs - the real story Has an attatchment (.exe ) this is a virus - worms don't open that attatchment - I did but I quickly put Norton on th job - and irradiated that little smegger!!! DO'OH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Thu Apr 5 01:30:56 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (Bryan Young) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:30:56 -0600 Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: And what about "Mask of Morning"? Isn't that amazing? (or is that on IitBofFtbD?) Anyways, my cd is not here and I can't check on which cd it appears, but I think it's amazing the way Hawkwind can reinvent songs and make them sound fresh -- there's dozens of other examples of songs from the past being presented in new ways. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Jon Jarrett To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu Date: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 4:56 PM Subject: Re: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) >On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > >> 3.L.S.D. (why is this the _only track_ I like on Etepee?? either i'm crazy or >> the rest of you are...:) > > But, but: `Secret Agent'! How can anyone not like `Secret >Agent'? Yours bemusedly, > Jon > >-- > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > =================================================================== > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Apr 5 03:54:31 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:54:31 -0500 Subject: HW: Calvert Revenge Message-ID: Thats odd. Is yours the voiceprint release? Mine is and it has 5 tracks. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Rik Rx [mailto:hw at CY-B.ORG] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:56 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Calvert Revenge Actually there is no 5th track on this cd...... ??? On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:47:28 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Rik Rx wrote: > >> For those who asked, the Calvert disk has the folowing trax: >> >> 1}Revenge >> 2}Fascism/Futurism >> 3}Bugatti >> 4}Isadora >> >> Track 4 features Simon House > > A track with a violinist on called `Isadora'... It's not by any >chance an East of Eden cover is it? Or is it one of Mr. Calvert's >originals? Seems a very odd thing for him to cover but the coincidence is >also rather odd... Thanks for info though, yours, > Jon >-- > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > =================================================================== > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Actually, the is no 5th track on this cd..... ????? From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Apr 5 04:02:30 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 04:02:30 EDT Subject: HW: Leeds (almost) Message-ID: Fwd'd from Hardy of Mr. Quimby's Beard for your amusement... stay chuffed, Chuck To all who asked me to tell them how the HW gig went.(+ a few who didn't ask=) Below is my account/review of last nights HW gig in Leeds............... My car is off the road at the moment because I need 2 new tyres (costing=20= about =A350), so I borrowed a friends car to take us to Leeds to see HW and=20= hook up again with Jim & Jerry Lascko and who ever they introduced us to. Le= eds is only 90 miles from Sunderland so even though the car was a 1980 Cheve= tte I still thought we'd make it easy. We set off at 6 allowing 2 hours for=20= the 90 mile journey and we were all impressed at how well the engine sounded= for such an old car. 30 miles into the journey the car lost a bit power and= the engine was making a slight rattling sound {we considered turning back b= ut we are stayers}, 50 miles into the journey steam was coming out of the ra= diator, we found a service station and put some more water in, (the rattle w= as now louder) {we considered turning back but we are stayers}, 55 miles int= o our journey we pass a garage which is open, so we pull in and ask the mech= anic what he thought the rattle was. He said he wasn't sure but "the damage=20= appears to be done, so it shouldn't get any worse" {we considered turning ba= ck but we are stayers}, 65 miles into our journey (the rattle is now more li= ke a banging) the alternator warning light is flashing {we considered turnin= g back but we are stayers}. 70 miles into our journey the banging has now be= come so loud that I decide to pull over onto the "hard shoulder" of the moto= rway, as I dip my clutch pedal there's a loud bang and the engine stops comp= letely {we would have considered turning back but the car was now fucked}. L= uckily I had my mobile phone with me, but unfortunately the battery was very= low, and as there is a fixed fee of over =A3100 (I think) to be towed off t= he motorway if the Police come and you aren't a member of a break down servi= ce, and especially as I have no insurance to drive my friends car, we had to= think fast, sorry I had to think fast as the rest of the lads were by this=20= time pissed & stoned and of little use as problem solvers. If I phoned a bre= ak down organisation and joined at the road side I would be liable for a sur= charge of =A350 + =A345 to join and all they would do if they couldn't fix t= he car would be take me to the nearest town with a garage, which would still= leave us 70 miles from home, but at least we'd be off the motorway. To get=20= there number I had to call the operator (remember my battery is low). They s= tarted to read me the number and I realised non of us had a pen, so we remem= bered 3 digits each, nice and easy you'd think......oh no!! not for one of t= he lads anyway, he couldn't remember his 3 digits, I re-rang the operator...= ...This time we remembered the number and phoned the RAC breakdown services,= who informed us that they only accept credit cards, which non of us had, so= they suggest I call someone who has one and use there details......So I pho= ned my mother (my battery is now very low).... she wasn't in.......I left a=20= message for her to call my mobile when she got home and hoped it wouldn't be= long. We waited 30 mins and she hadn't called back, we new if we didn't get= moving soon the Police would come passed and pull us (it was amazing and un= usual that they hadn't already), so we decided to push the car to the next e= xit 1.5 miles away (very dangerous and very illegal). about half mile up the= road my mother phones and tries to give me a 15 or so digit number when I h= ave no pen (and my phone battery is very low) so I'm panting onto the inside= of the wind screen and writing the number in the steam my breath leaves, ne= edless to say this didn't work as the windows of the car were all open from=20= when we'd been pushing and my phone battery was about to give. Nothing for i= t we'd now have to push for the remaining mile off the motorway and find a p= ublic phone . Just then a van pulls over, it was dark by now and the headlig= hts were in our face, so we all presumed it was the Police, but luckily it w= as the RAC who were passing and bored and decided to check on us. We told hi= m our story and he let me use his phone to call my mother so I could join th= e RAC. He couldn't fix the car as apparently "The big ends gone"????? so he=20= towed us to a town (Knaresboro???)15 miles north of Leeds (5 miles further a= way from home), and give us the number of a supposedly cheap tow firm. Who e= ventually towed us home for =A3245, making the total cost of the journey (in= cluding the =A322 petrol I'd put in before we left) =A3352.........And to ma= ke things worse me & Kidd had spent the whole day designing, printing and cu= tting flyers to hand out at the gig..... So I never hooked up with Jim (which will look bad) and I have no contact nu= mber for him in England, I never got to see HW or Spacehead, I have over 100= flyers and no-one to give them to and a broken car to give back to my frien= d + an awful lot more debt then when I set out, but it could have been worse= , at least I'm home now, in one piece and I never got a fine for no insuranc= e. How was your day :-) Remember my car would have only cost =A350 to put back on the road. Apart from all of this though, I'm still buzzing from the great gig at the w= eekend and Mr Quimby's Beard going to America (and the couple of joints I've= smoked while writing this), so apart from not hooking up with Jim I'm still= of very high spirits . Hardy From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Thu Apr 5 05:42:01 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:42:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: Watery Graves and stuff Message-ID: Answer: You get bubbles in yer Jack Daniels :) But: Apparently we have more chance of tsunamis from landslip than we do of the same from ice-slip. It's already happend somewhere in Scandinavia (ish) a couple of times, estimated wave heights of over 300 meters IIRC. Mark (Hasbeen) ----------------- ORIGINAL -------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:43:41 +0100 From: Chris Warburton Subject: Re: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Even worse, the soap dish is at an angle, so when the underside melts, the ice slips off when melting reaches a critical point. This is the situation with one of the Antarctic ice sheets. So figure out the size of the tsunamis if that big mother goes!!!! ChrisW >Robert C. Mayo writes: > > > and even if it were true that the ice caps will melt, etc, why would that > > cause flooding, necessarily? when the ice in a glass of icewater melts,the > > glass doesn't overflow; the 'new' water takes up (nearly) the same space as > > the ice that it used to be...did. > >Good analysis but I have Bad News: while the arctic ice is sea ice, most >of the antarctic ice is on a shelf, as are the mountain glaciers. What >happens if you have a full glass with ice on a soap dish above it, and >then you melt the ice? > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Apr 5 06:29:44 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:29:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general In-Reply-To: J D's message of Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:29:22 +0100 Message-ID: J D writes: > Roadhawks CD? ..... are you sure about this, or is that a typo error? Sorry. Typo. > So you reckon part of Weird 102 in 'henge 77, I have it down as Leicester > '77. > What reasoning do you have for 'henge 77? You got me there. It's a while since I compiled this, but I thought I'd ID'd the Weird stuff from Frenchy letters (feh) and lists from Bernhard. Any comment Bernhard? FoFP > > Roadhawks 30.12.1972 CD+LP London > > W102 - Hawkwind/Hawklords 22.06.1977 Cass. Stonehenge From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Apr 5 06:36:21 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:36:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Careful use of the saxophone In-Reply-To: Jon Jarrett's message of Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:58:42 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Jarrett writes: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Nick Medford wrote: > > > Absolutely spot on. Lock the boys (sorry geezers) in the studio when these > > gigs have finished, and don't let them out until a prime 2001 Space Rock > > odyssey masterpiece has been completed. (Nourishment breaks to be allowed > > at a rate of, say, one meal per riff. I am a reasonable man and wouldn't > > want them to suffer.) > > Exactly. It works for electing a pope and it could work for us > :-) Yours, I can already imagine the white smoke coming out... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Apr 5 06:42:04 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:42:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Leeds (almost) In-Reply-To: Chuck Rosenberg's message of Thu, 5 Apr 2001 04:02:30 EDT Message-ID: Chuck Rosenberg writes: > Fwd'd from Hardy of Mr. Quimby's Beard for your amusement... stay chuffed, > Chuck Wow. That's just so Cheech&Chong! FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Apr 5 06:49:33 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:49:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: Watery Graves and stuff In-Reply-To: Mark Lee's message of Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:42:01 +0100 Message-ID: Mark Lee writes: > Answer: > > You get bubbles in yer Jack Daniels :) > > But: > > Apparently we have more chance of tsunamis from landslip than > we do of the same from ice-slip. It's already happend somewhere > in Scandinavia (ish) a couple of times, estimated wave heights > of over 300 meters IIRC. There was a documentary on tsunamis on the box recently. They had an interview with a guy who'd been in a fjord off Alaska when a landslip around the bay head had caused a tsunami. He'd heard the rumble from his boat, but first he knew he was in trouble was when a 500 foot wave came *over* the headland from the next bay. He threw a lifejacket at his son and said "put this on and pray". The boat went up and over the wave and came down intact. A boat half a mile from him had been lifted ten miles out to sea and smashed to smithereens. The big part of the programme was about some eastern atlantic volcanic island. Apparently the typre of rock it's made of is in almost vertical layers where some layers are permeable to water and some are not. The volcanic vents mean that lave heats the water layers into steam, which then means that the impermeable layers are forced apart. The result is very large cracks along the island, some near the cliffs. The final result, sooner or later, is that volcanic heating will one day drop a three mile length of cliff, almost half a mile high, down into the atlantic. This will produce a spreading tsunami about 20 feet high. When this hits the atlantic shelf at the US end six hours later, the wave will shorten wavelength and produce a tsunami somewhere between 200-300 feet high. This will destroy pretty much every city and town on the east coast of the United States. On the plus side, they will get six hours warning. Quite what could be done about it isn't clear, but I'd certainly be thinking of drilling steam vents through the impermiable layers, and lots of steel bolts and concrete. FoFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Apr 5 07:48:24 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:48:24 EDT Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: <200104050232.WAA22274@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On 4 Apr 2001, at 21:21, K Henderson wrote: I'm not > inclined to spend the time and effort to do 'opportunistic shopping,' > which is the way to truly save money (relative to the average person > who doesn't pay much attention) I suppose. Hell yeah. My wife wrote that book, or at least contributed a few chapters... theo From chrisr at TIAC.NET Thu Apr 5 08:21:29 2001 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:21:29 -0400 Subject: OFF: Mr. Quimby's Beard in America? Message-ID: Does anybody know further about Mr. Quimby's Beard coming to the USA? Chris > > Chuck Rosenberg writes: > > > Fwd'd from Hardy of Mr. Quimby's Beard for your amusement... stay chuffed, > > Chuck > Apart from all of this though, I'm still buzzing from the great gig at the w= eekend and Mr Quimby's Beard going to America (and the couple of joints I've= smoked while writing this), so apart from not hooking up with Jim I'm still= of very high spirits . Hardy From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Thu Apr 5 08:24:26 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:24:26 -0500 Subject: Mr. Quimby's Beard in America? Message-ID: HI, JIM LASCKO was supposed to be arranging this while he is in England. I don't think any plans are made yet. If so I don't think word is out. Jim should be back on the 9th and I will ask him then or soon after. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Chris Raymond [mailto:chrisr at TIAC.NET] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:21 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Mr. Quimby's Beard in America? Does anybody know further about Mr. Quimby's Beard coming to the USA? Chris > > Chuck Rosenberg writes: > > > Fwd'd from Hardy of Mr. Quimby's Beard for your amusement... stay chuffed, > > Chuck > Apart from all of this though, I'm still buzzing from the great gig at the w= eekend and Mr Quimby's Beard going to America (and the couple of joints I've= smoked while writing this), so apart from not hooking up with Jim I'm still= of very high spirits . Hardy From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Thu Apr 5 08:38:41 2001 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:38:41 +0200 Subject: AW: HW: Weirdos in general Message-ID: Hi >> So you reckon part of Weird 102 in 'henge 77, I have it down as Leicester >> '77. >> What reasoning do you have for 'henge 77? >You got me there. It's a while since I compiled this, but I thought I'd >ID'd the Weird stuff from Frenchy letters (feh) and lists from Bernhard. >Any comment Bernhard? As far as I know the stuff is from the following gigs: - Stonehenge, 21.06.77 - Camden, 10.06.77 Bernhard Disclaimer 1. This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. 2. If you as intended recipient have received this e-mail incorrectly, please notify the sender (via e-mail) immediately. This e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. DSM does not guarantee that the information sent and/or received by or with this e-mail is correct and does not accept any liability for damages related thereto. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Apr 5 08:42:37 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:42:37 -0400 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: <3ACC2346.4713.215A9C@localhost> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: => On 4 Apr 2001, at 21:21, K Henderson wrote: => => I'm not => > inclined to spend the time and effort to do 'opportunistic shopping,' => > which is the way to truly save money (relative to the average person => > who doesn't pay much attention) I suppose. => => Hell yeah. My wife wrote that book, or at least contributed a few => chapters... Isn't that the one that opens with "Never shop for food when you're hungry?..." :-) (Best advice I ever got.) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK Thu Apr 5 10:57:09 2001 From: sihalley at CABLEINET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:57:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Census Message-ID: Thought this may amuse. Subject: Census 2001 > As some of you may know there is a census coming around on August the > 7th. > > For those who don't know, a census is where the government collates > general information about its residents (number of people living in your > house, religion, etc) > > If there are enough people, who put down a religion that > isn't mentioned on the census form it becomes a fully recognised and > legal religion. It usually takes about 10,000 people to nominate the > same religion. > > It is for this reason that it has been suggested that anyone who does > not have a dominant religion to put "Jedi" as their religion. > > Send this on to all your friends and tell them to put down "Jedi" on > their census form. And remember ......If you are a member of the Jedi > religion then you are by default a 'Jedi Knight'. > > So if this has been your dream since you were 4 years old.... Do it > because you love Star Wars, If not........... then just do it to annoy > people. > > "May the Force be with you!" From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 5 10:55:23 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:55:23 +0800 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: RE: OFF Mornington CrescentThat should be Professor Quatermass!!!!! Calling Dr. Quatermass!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [SMTP:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:37 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent Hodds End station......? Decaying grasshoppers......? What on earth is this all about....!? Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 04/03/01 07:46am >>> Could you send me a sample in a jar? please Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Pearson To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:30 AM Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent > On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:48:41 -0700, John H. McCartney > wrote: > >Have you tried the Hobbs End station? > > I love the smell of decaying grasshoppers in the morning. > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 5 10:58:20 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:58:20 +0800 Subject: HW: Calvert Revenge Message-ID: I rather like that track > YOU FORGOT THAT AWFUL 5TH TRACK, TURN THE TAPE OVER (vol. 2). STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:47 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Calvert Revenge > > > On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Rik Rx wrote: > > > For those who asked, the Calvert disk has the folowing trax: > > > > 1}Revenge > > 2}Fascism/Futurism > > 3}Bugatti > > 4}Isadora > > > > Track 4 features Simon House > > A track with a violinist on called `Isadora'... It's not by any > chance an East of Eden cover is it? Or is it one of Mr. Calvert's > originals? Seems a very odd thing for him to cover but the coincidence is > also rather odd... Thanks for info though, yours, > Jon > -- > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > =================================================================== > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Apr 5 11:17:23 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:17:23 EDT Subject: OFF: UK Census In-Reply-To: <003e01c0bde0$b2be16e0$0100a8c0@kermitz> Message-ID: On 5 Apr 2001, at 15:57, Si Halley wrote: > > If there are enough people, who put down a religion that > > isn't mentioned on the census form it becomes a fully recognised and > > legal religion. It usually takes about 10,000 people to nominate > > the same religion. > > > > It is for this reason that it has been suggested that anyone who > > does not have a dominant religion to put "Jedi" as their religion. > > Uh...Church of Hawkwind? theo And I was thinkin' how the world should've cried On the day Jack Kirby died. I wonder if I'm ill. --D. Wyndorf From CWarburton at OAG.COM Thu Apr 5 11:17:28 2001 From: CWarburton at OAG.COM (ChrisW Work) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:17:28 +0100 Subject: FW: UK Census Message-ID: > I don't know if this is kosher, but it could be a good wheeze for UK list > members... > ChrisW > > ObCD: Bedouin > > -----Original Message----- > > As some of you may know there is a census coming around soon. For those > who don't know, a census is where the government collates general > information about its residents (number of people living in your house, > religion, etc) > > If there are enough people, who put down a religion that isn't mentioned > on the census form it becomes a fully recognised and legal religion. It > usually takes 10,000 people to nominate the same religion. > > It is for this reason that it has been suggested that anyone who does not > have a dominant religion to put "Jedi" as their religion. > > Send this on to all your friends and tell them to put down "Jedi" on their > census form. And remember ......If you are a member of the Jedi > religion,then you are by default a 'Jedi Knight'. > > So if this has been your dream since you were 4 years old.... Do it > because you love Star Wars. > > If not........... then just do it to annoy people. > > "May the Force be with you!" > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Apr 5 11:31:36 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:31:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Census In-Reply-To: Si Halley's message of Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:57:09 +0100 Message-ID: Si Halley writes: > Thought this may amuse. > > Subject: Census 2001 > > > As some of you may know there is a census coming around on August the > > 7th. > > > > For those who don't know, a census is where the government collates > > general information about its residents (number of people living in your > > house, religion, etc) > > > > If there are enough people, who put down a religion that > > isn't mentioned on the census form it becomes a fully recognised and > > legal religion. It usually takes about 10,000 people to nominate the > > same religion. > > > > It is for this reason that it has been suggested that anyone who does > > not have a dominant religion to put "Jedi" as their religion. Sorry, I'll be putting "Discordian" as usual. Still, if 9999 folks want to join me, then I think that'd be perfectly in keeping with scripture :-) FoFP From swann at CUGC.ORG Thu Apr 5 11:31:58 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:31:58 -0400 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general In-Reply-To: <009d01c0b3e6$7dd47720$9005883e@jezd>; from J D on Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 10:12:29PM -0000 Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 10:12:29PM -0000, J D wrote: > Hi, > For me, the Weird tapes/CDs have some of the best HW material ever on them. > I just love 'em to death. > At least 4 or 5 of them would fit into by top 20 HW releases. > The live 76/77/78 material is astounding. I should really check out more of the weird tapes/CDs. A generous list member sent me Weird 105 as a Xmas present one year, and I was blown away by some of the stuff on it (I think that's the best version of Hassan I Sabha ever). In fact, Weird CD 105 is probably going to be my next music purchase (well, maybe at the same time as Orange Goblin). :) Steve From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Thu Apr 5 11:58:17 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:58:17 -0400 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent Message-ID: I stand corrected!!!! -----Original Message----- From: William Duffy [SMTP:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:55 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent That should be Professor Quatermass!!!!! Calling Dr. Quatermass!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Layla Thompson [SMTP:lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:37 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent Hodds End station......? Decaying grasshoppers......? What on earth is this all about....!? Layla >>> michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU 04/03/01 07:46am >>> Could you send me a sample in a jar? please Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Pearson To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:30 AM Subject: Re: OFF Mornington Crescent > On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:48:41 -0700, John H. McCartney > wrote: > >Have you tried the Hobbs End station? > > I love the smell of decaying grasshoppers in the morning. > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Apr 5 12:21:55 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:21:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Census In-Reply-To: <3019627974EFD211A6A000805FCBF8BB03C5EEE3@RBIDUNEX01> Message-ID: This is recycled from New Zealand, isn't it? I'm pretty sure there's no religion question planned for the UK census. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Apr 5 12:29:29 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:29:29 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Census In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Begging your pardon, it is there, but is voluntary. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/nsbase/countmein/faq9.html Still recycled from the Kiwis though :p -- Andy www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Apr 5 12:40:30 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:40:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Census In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And it's the Aussie census on August 7th anyway. All your census belong to us... Just pissed off because I've had this same message from four separate people in the last half hour. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Apr 5 13:11:23 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:11:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Census Message-ID: ahhhhhh. poor andy!!!! (sucks when that happens!!) Layla. >>> email at ANDYGILHAM.COM 04/05/01 05:40pm >>> And it's the Aussie census on August 7th anyway. All your census belong to us... Just pissed off because I've had this same message from four separate people in the last half hour. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM Thu Apr 5 13:42:01 2001 From: mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:42:01 CDT Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 05 Apr 2001 05:00:05 CDT." <200104050900.FAA09205@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: K Henderson writes: >And ok, yeah, I'm free to pay more for my groceries to not have the card, >but why the *$@#!)$ should I?! Uh, 'cause you value your privacy more than the savings? >I'm not inclined to spend the time and effort to do 'opportunistic >shopping,' which is the way to truly save money (relative to the average >person who doesn't pay much attention) I suppose. Likewise. I want to simply go to my local grocery store, get what I need, and get done. >The problem is...they force you to play their game, or waste money. I agree that we shouldn't have to pay what is, in effect, a privacy tax. You can sell them the information and are rewarded through rebates, or you can buy it through lost savings. To me, my anonymity is worth the fee, because I don't want to be profiled (economically, racially, whatever). And since information warfare is a multi-sided affair :-), I've also considered trying to use this system to build a really strange user profile. ("Hmmm...this guy only buys Coca-Cola and...deodorant? What the...? Marty, do we have any other correlation between soft drinks and BO in white males between 40 and 45 who drive Pontiacs and listen to NPR in the morning, and classical music in the afternoon?") >Commodities like groceries should be a simple thing....you need something, >you buy something. End of story. Yep. We should be free to conduct the business of living without being pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. Unfortunately, it's becoming less and less easy as technology marches on... m@ +-mbraun at urbana.css.mot.com-+--Experiments that failed too many times -----BOC+ | Matt Braun -- Motorola, | Transformations that were too hard to find | | Urbana, IL Design Centre | Poison's in my bloodstream, poison's in my pride| +Simulation Technology Team-+--- I'm after rebellion--I'll settle for lies. --+ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 5 16:27:04 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:27:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Codex - phew In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Andy Gilham wrote: > > Yes, but that isn't the whole story is it? There's also the matter > > of who actually owns the stuff. And we have to face the sad fact that > > though Hawkwind's management own EBS, the minute EBS get their hands on > > something, that's the last we see of it. Ethically it should be Hawkwind's > > management who own the material, at least in business terms. But when even > > the band have to go to another label than their own to actually get things > > released, well, something's up with that IMO. Yours, > > Well... EBS isn't Hawkwind management. Hawkwind don't have a management as > such. EBS was a joint venture between several parties, including Dave and > Doug. Without taking sides, I think it's fair to say there was a difference > of opinion a while back which made it hard for them all to work together; so > EBS kind of went into suspended animation. It's no individual's fault. Oh yes, I wasn't seeking to blame EBS as such, though the stuff not coming out does annoy me. But given that it can't work we can understand why the Voiceprint stuff is emerging, is what I meant. Dave having full control of the material can't disagree with anyone... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 5 16:29:12 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:29:12 +0100 Subject: OFF Mornington Crescent In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D904AAA60B@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Sam Kirwan wrote: > That's major cool - can we hold huge parties in them?? > > On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Jon Browne wrote: > > > Not that it's got anything to do with anything, but did you know there > > are actually 40 abandoned stations on the Tube? > > > > Like King William Street, which was closed over 100 years ago, which > > still has posters on its wall but is only accessible down a manhole in > > the basement of Regis House, with breathing gear coz the air's gone bad? > > I knew there were three at least, but I didn't know it was as many > as forty... You come through two of them (Lords and Marylebone Road) on > the way into Baker Street on the Metropolitan, they're not too difficult > to spot although most of the platforms have been cleared out. And of > course Everyone Knows there's one under Buck House to evacuate the Royals > with in the case of son^H^H^Hnuclear attack. Honestguvplainasthernoseon- > yerfaceinnitnah. Yours, I'd imagine, only if you had protective headgear and body armour, since only the tunnels are kept up, and also in some cases gas-masks and breathing gear as Jon says... Depends on what kind of crowd you want really :-) Yours, Jon P.S. And of course it would be ILLEGAL so there :-0 -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 5 16:30:13 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:30:13 +0100 Subject: wwf/motorhead In-Reply-To: <200103300714.CAA21871@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Mark Von Bargen wrote: > If only Hawkwind had access to their marketing department, perhaps Lemmy > could make the introduction, then you might get your American tour.... > Hawkwind featuring Triple H (or such like wrestler) on WWF style reggae rap > .... UNREAL!!! Urgh. I really hope that doesn't happen. It would mean a return of the Rizz... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 5 16:32:25 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:32:25 +0100 Subject: Off: Alien 4 now in top five album list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Dunno, I might give _Electric Teepee_ the edge over _A4_. Not that > there _were_ that many albums of the 90s :) I'd choose _Love in Space_ personally, unless you're excluding live albums. In which case, no there weren't that many, though as many as ever since 1978, but if you're not, then there was one a year every year except 1997, and then _California Brainstorm_ and _Hawkwind 1997_ filling gaps... not a bad crop. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 5 16:51:41 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:51:41 +0100 Subject: Lockheed Remaster/ Sham 69/Greek 4track EP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Killfile Deletion wrote: > Captain Lockheed (calvert),,,,,is now residing in Dallas, in remastered > CD form with "faithfully restored artwork" from BGO...... > > sounded cosmic to me....... A friend of mine bought this on sight, though I have yet to get her to buy any Hawkwind... it was the Bonzo Dog band connection that did it I think. The remastering is audible over the vinyl, which is what I'd heard before, but I don't know how it compares to the old CD. A bit clearer, not really any crisper it seemed to me. What interested me is that sticker on the front, "Remastered from original tapes, faithfully restored artwork" yadda yadda; I've only seen these on Castle/Essential releases before. Do Castle own BGO too? > did they do Lucky Leif???? Or indeed any of the other BGO Calvert stuff? In fact, more importantly, what about the Man stuff they have, of which there is more and worse recorded? > Finally got Greek 4-track Promo CD EP, titled "The Hawkwind EP"... > > this is the first delicious taste of "Kings Of Speed" in remastered > form....that being EMI remastered form...(I'm pretty darn sure)!!?? Where did this thing come from? What else is on it? It sounds fascinating... where did they get the masters to remaster? > the unfathomable, unthinkable, unspeakable, black, black, black, > un-nameable, horror. that even now (thats all the Lovecraft I can > remember)... The colour... out of space! Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Thu Apr 5 16:57:55 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:57:55 -0400 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general Message-ID: The Weird tapes are top stuff, especially for all the Bob Calvert period material on them. I just bought the first one and was well pleased to find that it has longer versions of 'Over the Top', 'Freefall' and 'Deathtrap' from the Sonic Assasins 12 inch. Well chuffed!! Alastair. On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:31:58 -0400, Stephen Swann wrote: >On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 10:12:29PM -0000, J D wrote: >> Hi, >> For me, the Weird tapes/CDs have some of the best HW material ever on them. >> I just love 'em to death. >> At least 4 or 5 of them would fit into by top 20 HW releases. >> The live 76/77/78 material is astounding. > >I should really check out more of the weird tapes/CDs. A generous >list member sent me Weird 105 as a Xmas present one year, and I was >blown away by some of the stuff on it (I think that's the best version >of Hassan I Sabha ever). In fact, Weird CD 105 is probably going to >be my next music purchase (well, maybe at the same time as Orange >Goblin). :) > >Steve From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Thu Apr 5 17:12:30 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:12:30 -0400 Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) Message-ID: When I first listened to 'The 1999 Party' I was struck by how modern it sounded despite being recorded in 1974. I've always separated all the Hawkwind periods but recently I started to see how one period flows into another and changes due to the influence of new musicians but always retains the underlying Hawkwind sound. I put that down to Dave Brock being the backbone of Hawkwind, it being his sound. I think that sound corresponds to something in us and that's why we like it. Alastair. On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:30:56 -0600, Bryan Young wrote: >And what about "Mask of Morning"? Isn't that amazing? (or is that on >IitBofFtbD?) > >Anyways, my cd is not here and I can't check on which cd it appears, but I >think it's amazing the way Hawkwind can reinvent songs and make them sound >fresh -- there's dozens of other examples of songs from the past being >presented in new ways. > >Bryan From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Apr 5 18:00:25 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:00:25 -0400 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: <200104051742.MAA26910@chestburster.urbana.css.mot.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Matthew Braun wrote: => K Henderson writes: => => >And ok, yeah, I'm free to pay more for my groceries to not have the card, => >but why the *$@#!)$ should I?! => Uh, 'cause you value your privacy more than the savings? That must be why he posts to a mailing list that maintains a permanent archive of everything he says for all the world to read, I guess. Where is the opt-out on BOC-L? Oh, the horror! :-) => Likewise. I want to simply go to my local grocery store, get what I need, => and get done. You mean you can't? I guess Illinois must be like Ohio... => >The problem is...they force you to play their game, or waste money. => I agree that we shouldn't have to pay what is, in effect, a privacy tax. Damn those Big Corporations forcing us like that! Sometimes they even have the nerve to put up prices instead of cutting them like they should. We shouldn't have to pay what is in effect a cost of doing business tax! This is disgraceful!! The government should step in and put an end to this barbaric practice. => You can sell them the information and are rewarded through rebates, or you You mean getting money off when you use the card isn't some kind of reward/rebate? If they did rebates, heck, I'd have to give them a legitimate postal address to mail the thing to... :-( Plus, can you imagine how the lines would grow at the checkouts with people haggling over how much to sell their information for. ("You want to give me 0.005 cents for the knowledge I buy coffee beans every second Tuesday? Pah! I spit on your lousy 0.005 cents! I will take no less than 0.007 cents or be damned!!") => Yep. We should be free to conduct the business of living without being => pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. You could always shop at Annie Kay's or Eats. Eats' even still use a mechanical slider machine for credit cards. I can't help feeling that somewhere in all this appears to have been lost the fact that Kroger are a business beholden to their shareholders, and not in fact a charity. Obviously, they've decided that knowing what customers buy is useful to their business model and ongoing operations, and that this card scheme (rewarded by savings and other incentives to participate) is a cost-effective way to implement this. Kroger have been trying to find out what people buy in their stores since they began. All shops do it, even little corner shops ("'ello Paul, the usual, is it?"). This just makes it easier and more accurate and cost effective for them. I'm sure they would open up the shop for free, if it were not for those mean shareholders. Believe me when I say this. => Unfortunately, it's becoming less and less easy as technology marches on... Okay, if Kroger started selling groceries online, via a WWW site that required cookies, would that satisfy everyone? ;-) The thing that narks me is that they won't let me access my data. (Of course, I realise that they pay for its storage and collection, so I'm not surprised, really.) It would be useful for budgeting, for example. Plus, if record stores did this, it would be a great way to track the evolution of your record collection. It's a shame that my CD player doesn't keep a history of what I play, because then I could easily settle the thorny question of what gets played more: _Space Ritual_ or _Hall of the Mountain Grill_... (Excuse the flippancy, please.) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 5 18:40:11 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 06:40:11 +0800 Subject: HW - Codex Message-ID: A couple of weeks ago my harddrive went kaput and lost everything HW related. Can Mike or Jill please email me the Codex again (its my Bible) and I promise it'll be backed up this time.. Thanks in advance. Learning the hard way Bill From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Apr 5 20:04:29 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:04:29 EDT Subject: HW: Weirdos in general Message-ID: In a message dated 4/5/01 3:36:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK writes: > The Weird tapes are top stuff, especially for all the Bob Calvert period > material on them. I just bought the first one and was well pleased to find > that it has longer versions of 'Over the Top', 'Freefall' and 'Deathtrap' > from the Sonic Assasins 12 inch. Well chuffed!! HUH?? They sound exactly the same to me. It's "Angels of Death" which is longer, which was my main reason for buying the disc. Chuck > > Alastair. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Apr 5 21:33:57 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:33:57 -0600 Subject: Lockheed Remaster/Greek 4track EP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jon Jarrett stated and asked: " A friend of mine bought this on sight, though I have yet to get her to buy any Hawkwind... it was the Bonzo Dog band connection that did it I think. The remastering is audible over the vinyl, which is what I'd heard before, but I don't know how it compares to the old CD. A bit clearer, not really any crisper it seemed to me. What interested me is that sticker on the front, "Remastered from original tapes, faithfully restored artwork" yadda yadda; I've only seen these on Castle/Essential releases before. Do Castle own BGO too?" YES, I COULDN'T BE TOO SURE ABOUT THE "REMASTERING"....been too long since I heard the original BGO copy (no Idea if "Castle Label" Owned) I CAN'T WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND IT AS WELL WITHOUT THE POPS, SO I FOLLOWED WITH A VINYL PLAY.....GUESS I'LL NEVER KNOW..... AS FOR THE GREEK 4-TRACK, IT SEEMS TO BE A SNEAKY, PESKY LITTLE JOBBER OF AN ITEM THAT YOU NEED A GREEK MAFIA CONNECTION FOR.... I have just been informed that I will receive an extra copy, that I did not know I would get ....... I PROPOSE THIS VERY BIZZARE TRADE OFFER, IN KEEPING WITH MY "HIGH STRANGENESS".... IF ANYONE HAS A COPY OF THE MID 70'S CIRCULAR STICKER, MADE BY UNITED ARTISTS COMPANY, THAT I BELIEVE WAS PUT ONTO LP'S LIKE WARRIOR WHEN IMPORTED TO FRANCE....THAT HAS A LITTLE CARTOON OF THE SST CONCORD ON IT, AND SAYS "IMPORT", AND DISPLAY THE LITTLE UA LOGO AT THE BOTTOM......I'LL TRADE A COPY JUST FOR THE STICKER (IT IS REMOVEABLE).....(IT'S LIME GREEN COLORED, AND DARK BLUE)... THE TRACKS ON THE EP ARE LIFTED FROM THE REMASTERED CD'S (UK VERSIONS)...THEY ARE: "the psychedelic warlords, motorhead (new mix?), master of the universe, silver machine, kings of speed (best I ever heard it)... the whole thing sounds super sharp...it'll do ya....also, on the front cover, which is a spiral galaxy in space, with the doremi design logo HAWKWIND, it says Electronically Enhanced for stereo"..which I find to be curious, and a probable flag that something is up here..... and finally....apologies to any this email isn't welcome to, but I cannot email Jon private... besides..I know you will mooch the info ...(just a joke...go ahead) Mike Coleman From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Apr 5 21:42:55 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:42:55 -0600 Subject: HW:/Greek 4track EP/ JJARRET/off In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jon...I can get you one if you want.. peace... oh yeah, this is "OFF", sorry, want to make sure he sees it!!! From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Apr 5 23:28:13 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:28:13 -0600 Subject: greek 4 track(off?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: in an error of my own previous email..I stated the Greek 4 track CD is "Electronically Enhanced", WRONG!!!! it's WAY WAY WAY cooler than that!!! it's "Electronically ALTERED for Stereo"..... isn't life a "gas"....??.... mc PS--it's a lucious digipack sleeve as well. ... cutting the dislike with butter knife.. mc From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Apr 5 23:38:43 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:08:43 +0930 Subject: OFF: UK Census Message-ID: Ahhh the imagination can really play with this one!! 8>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Si Halley To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:27 AM Subject: OFF: UK Census > Thought this may amuse. > > Subject: Census 2001 > > > As some of you may know there is a census coming around on August the > > 7th. > > > > For those who don't know, a census is where the government collates > > general information about its residents (number of people living in your > > house, religion, etc) > > > > If there are enough people, who put down a religion that > > isn't mentioned on the census form it becomes a fully recognised and > > legal religion. It usually takes about 10,000 people to nominate the > > same religion. > > > > It is for this reason that it has been suggested that anyone who does > > not have a dominant religion to put "Jedi" as their religion. > > > > Send this on to all your friends and tell them to put down "Jedi" on > > their census form. And remember ......If you are a member of the Jedi > > religion then you are by default a 'Jedi Knight'. > > > > So if this has been your dream since you were 4 years old.... Do it > > because you love Star Wars, If not........... then just do it to annoy > > people. > > > > "May the Force be with you!" > From mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM Fri Apr 6 01:29:22 2001 From: mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:29:22 CDT Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 05 Apr 2001 23:36:21 CDT." <200104060336.XAA14428@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Sigh. I should know better than to take the bait like this, 'cause I'm sure you know most of this, but what the hey... :-) Paul Mather writes: >That must be why he posts to a mailing list that maintains a permanent >archive of everything he says for all the world to read, I guess. >Where is the opt-out on BOC-L? Oh, the horror! :-) Actually, this issue has come up on other mailing lists, with a "X-No-Archive" header made available to the listmembers if they want it. To post here, you must make your email address public: them's the rules. But you know how it is--some aspects of your life you're willing to make public, and some things you're not. I consider it okay to disclose that I listen to BOC, but I'd rather keep it private that I drown kittens in gasoline every Friday night. Err...oops. >Damn those Big Corporations forcing us like that! Sometimes they even >have the nerve to put up prices instead of cutting them like they >should. We shouldn't have to pay what is in effect a cost of doing >business tax! I don't mind the store knowing what I buy for purposes of inventory management. Thing is, discount card information usually isn't. It's for targeting marketing campaigns, and determining the demographics of purchases. The information is sold to product manufacturers, or other firms so they can target me with junk mail, telemarketing, etc. That's what I'm not wild about. If the guy down at Murphy's knows what I drink, or the guy at the magazine rack knows what I read to better serve me, hey, that's fine. But I do mind if someone I've never heard of knows exactly what I buy. I dunno--maybe it's just me, but IMHO it's none of their business...literally. :-) >=> You can sell them the information and are rewarded through rebates, or you >You mean getting money off when you use the card isn't some kind of >reward/rebate? Uh, no...it is...Hmmm...I thought that was my point... >I can't help feeling that somewhere in all this appears to have been >lost the fact that Kroger are a business beholden to their shareholders, >and not in fact a charity. Obviously, they've decided that knowing what >customers buy is useful to their business model and ongoing operations, >and that this card scheme (rewarded by savings and other incentives to >participate) is a cost-effective way to implement this. Kroger have >been trying to find out what people buy in their stores since they began. Man, they must have one helluva shoplifting problem. :-) The cash registers are all tied into the same system. At the end of the day they know how many pounds of tomatoes, and how many boxes of Kraft Dinner they have sold without scanning a single card. What they sell isn't what they want to find out--exactly who buys what items is. >Okay, if Kroger started selling groceries online, via a WWW site that >required cookies, would that satisfy everyone? ;-) Oh yeah, I'd sign up tomorrow, yoobetcha. And I know my privacy will be assured, 'cause the little padlock on my Netscape window is locked. ;-) >The thing that narks me is that they won't let me access my data. Oh, c'mon--I'm sure you could buy it back...along with the data of others in and out of your demographic group. :-) >(Excuse the flippancy, please.) I don't begrudge them making a buck. They've picked this system to profile their customers to the point of finding out who buys what. I've tried to opt-out, and all it costs me is money. It's not a big deal. ("Here kitty-kitty-kitty...") m@ ObCD: The Who, "Who's next" From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Apr 6 02:39:11 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:39:11 +0100 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 18:00 -0400 5.4.2001, Paul Mather wrote: >(Excuse the flippancy, please.) What flippancy? :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Fri Apr 6 05:08:35 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:08:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Message-ID: FoFP writes: >Mark Jermy writes: > >> Besides which, if even there was no anthropomorphic greenhouse effect, if we >> continue to rely on fossil fuel we will run out. Maybe not in our lifetimes, >> but what about our children's lifetimes? > >Does anyone really believe that we won't get nuclear fusion working >within our children's lifetimes? I wish I had your confidence in high technology fixes. I think the chances of extracting useful power from fusion greater than nil but still slim. The problem is containing the plasma without sapping energy from it and extinguishing the reaction- given that the plasma is highly turbulent and difficult to control. Plus the energy extraction/conversion into electricity is a non trivial problem which has been little studied. > >> Academic and industrial opinion is rapidly approaching a concensus that >> using hydrogen as a way of transporting energy is the best solution. You can >> generate it in many ways, from fossil or renewable energy sources, you can >> use it in a number of ways, and the wast product is water. > >Even the major car manufacturers admit that hydrogen fuel cells will be >commonplace by 2030. > They certainly understand that it is a possibility, and are looking at having the required technology ready- they are not sticking their heads in the sand or trying to protect the internal combustion engine. There is an intermidiate technology that is already on the roads of Munich- the hydrogen fuelled internal combustion engine. Same wate products as the fuel cell, although less efficient. Mark From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Fri Apr 6 05:19:01 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:19:01 +0100 Subject: Careful use of the saxophone Message-ID: Colin Allen wrote: > Jez is a really good sax player, far more > controlled than Nik, and he does play the flute (he played it at the > Astoria). Kirsten wrote: > He played it at Croydon. And yes, he is good I've always found Nik's playing easy on the ear (not in the sense of easy listening i.e. easy to ignore, but better integrated with the music, and flowing. I find Jez' playing jerky (as in sporadic, not smooth). Just goes to show different people listen in different ways. The good thing is that we are listening to the music. I think we have so much crap in the charts because people don't really listen to the music they choose, and seek music that is easy on the ear and easy to categorise rather than music that is truly emotion or thought-provoking. When did Jez play the flute at Croydon? I seem to remeber him playing alto and tenor sax. Mark ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr Mark Jermy Automotive, Combustion and Energy Engineering School of Mechanical Engineering Cranfield University Cranfield, Beds, MK43 0AL, Great Britain Tel +44 1234 754680 Fax +44 1234 750425 http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/sme/aeod/homepage.htm From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Apr 6 05:30:39 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:30:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: a funny fella Message-ID: Hello, any of you lot heard of a guy called Des Butler?? Layla. From m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK Fri Apr 6 05:22:41 2001 From: m.jermy at CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Mark Jermy) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:22:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: >=> Does anyone really believe that we won't get nuclear fusion working >=> within our children's lifetimes? > >I thought we already had! Mind you, the energy of a hydrogen bomb is a >little difficult to direct for constructive purposes... ;-) > >Cheers, > >Paul. Very good point. Mark ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr Mark Jermy Automotive, Combustion and Energy Engineering School of Mechanical Engineering Cranfield University Cranfield, Beds, MK43 0AL, Great Britain Tel +44 1234 754680 Fax +44 1234 750425 http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/sme/aeod/homepage.htm From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Apr 6 06:51:13 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:51:13 +0100 Subject: OFF: Moorcock on sci-fi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Andy Gilham wrote: > Well, there's a whole opera based on VALIS... composer's name escapes me > right now though. Stu Hamm did an album called RADIO FREE ALBEMUTH. I'm > sure there's loads more. Having dug that up on I'm sorely tempted to give that a go; the reference and the people he's worked with make it look as if it might be good. However, as with so many things, not this month. Thanks for the tip, yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Apr 6 06:59:05 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:59:05 +0100 Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? In-Reply-To: <6c.91ca72e.27f93116@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > JJ -- Really enjoyed your Space-Rock Thesis. Hopefully a work in progress... Well, not really, except inasmuch I had to reformat it for seding... How would you suggest altering, just updating the bands mentioned (have to wait till I can afford more CDs if so) or the actual text? > NP: Farflung: The Raven Ate the Moon (bloody-hell, the tracking on this disc > is even worse than 25,000 Feet!!) Flipside certainly did fuck-up their go at > space-rock, eh? oh well, better than nada... What's wrong with the tracking on _25,000 Feet_? I never noticed anything wrong with it except that it's mastered so *bloody* quietly. Which makes it a pain to DJ with apart from anything else. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Apr 6 07:23:36 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:53:36 +0930 Subject: OFF: a funny fella Message-ID: Sorry - No... Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 7:00 PM Subject: OFF: a funny fella > Hello, any of you lot heard of a guy called Des Butler?? > > > > Layla. From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Fri Apr 6 08:14:20 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:14:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general Message-ID: I haven't listened to 'Sonic Assassins' 12 inch for a while because my vinyl is elsewhere, but I'm sure 'Deathtrap' is slightly longer on Weird Tape Vol. 1. Anyway, I would rather buy an official Hawkwind release before an 'unofficial' or bootleg label release. On the other hand I will buy bootleg material when it is not available elsewhere. Has all of the Weird Tape material been published on other CDs? Alastair. On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:04:29 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >HUH?? They sound exactly the same to me. It's "Angels of Death" which is >longer, which was my main reason for buying the disc. > >Chuck > >> >> Alastair. From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Apr 6 09:51:46 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:51:46 EDT Subject: OFF: Mad Professor Message-ID: Just saw an advert for the Mad Professor playing in NYC. I seem to recall postings to this list regarding this artist. Should I go? regards, Bill From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Apr 6 10:12:52 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:12:52 -0500 Subject: Mad Professor Message-ID: I think that guy plays DUB REGGAE. I heard him once and it wasn't bad if you like that style music. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Bill Stewart [mailto:Stewartbas at AOL.COM] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 8:52 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Mad Professor Just saw an advert for the Mad Professor playing in NYC. I seem to recall postings to this list regarding this artist. Should I go? regards, Bill From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Apr 6 10:58:00 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:58:00 +0100 Subject: Mad Professor Message-ID: Yes go and see the Mad professor.... He's great live... the Albums are generally weak incomparison. He' s great if you like your internal organs being moved by the BASS !!! and I do !!!! regards iain Stephen Lindas wrote: > I think that guy plays DUB REGGAE. I heard him once and it wasn't bad if you > like that style music. STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Stewart [mailto:Stewartbas at AOL.COM] > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 8:52 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: OFF: Mad Professor > > Just saw an advert for the Mad Professor playing in NYC. I seem to recall > postings to this list regarding this artist. Should I go? > > regards, > Bill From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Apr 6 13:56:29 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:56:29 +0100 Subject: NIK: Nik Turner Band Live 1978 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > What would you say about this release, I'm curious? Essential? For what use it may be, here's a review I wrote for elsewhere, which people can consider public domain therefore: "This is a five track CD from the people who ran the festival at which it was recorded, and it's well, rough. There are bootlegs better than this. But not, and this is the point, of this show. Nik Turner, ex-Hawkwind saxophonist, had just released, as Sphynx, an album with about half of Gong and a very odd collective of Eastern musicians and Australian would-be-guru Hari Williamson, which centred around the Egyptian Book of the Dead and some flute recordings Nik was somehow permitted to make in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid. It is an extremely odd album and here they attempt to take it live. "Or at least, Nik and Hari do, because the entirety of the rest of the band had changed by now, and that means not only that Steve Hillage and Miquette Giraudy of Gong and System 7 fame (now), as well as Andy Anderson later to be of The Cure, had all gone, but also means, as far as you can tell from this album, that only Nik, whose playing is never exactly structured, and Hari know what the songs are meant to sound like. This means the whole thing tends towards wandering eerie jams of very little variation. What there is quite difficult to hear too. In places Steffi Sharpstrings of Here & Now contributes some lovely lead guitar, but not very much of it, and Nik's playing varies from the inaudible through random to the quite pretty. Tunes there are however none. The mood is strange and the rhythms eventually mesmeric, but it's hard going to get into their space to enjoy it. So if you like the sound of an hour plus of bootleg-quality jamming by some quite competent but basically under-rehearsed musicians along a concept nobody understands, then this is probably OK. Otherwise, and assuming you're not a Hawkwind collector which is the other reason for having it, don't worry about it. 9/20" Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Apr 6 14:06:50 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:06:50 EDT Subject: MM in Buffalo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I see a Monster Magnet gig listed for Buffalo later this month. Anyone going? theo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Apr 6 14:14:31 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:14:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Rock City In-Reply-To: <009c01c0bc1e$1125bae0$043a70c2@merlinas> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, David Bottomley wrote: > >Money Tree(?) > > Please Ron - drop the vox from "Spacebrock" - it works *so* much better > without. Unless Dave was just being random and philosophical at Croydon, I think this one's now entitled `Money is the Root of All Evil'. I actually quite like the way Ron's fitted the words over it but their pace is different. I think the bit at the end of the refrain which is a few power-chords before resuming the riff is now deprived of its effect and should be rewritten. But I suspect that'll be too tricky... Yours, Jon ObCD: The Outskirts of Infinity - _Incident at Pilatus_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Apr 6 14:28:05 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:28:05 -0400 Subject: MM in Buffalo In-Reply-To: <3ACDCD79.9436.17A3AD9@localhost> Message-ID: Theo wrote: > I see a Monster Magnet gig listed for Buffalo later this month. > Anyone going? I'm heading home for Easter, otherwise I'd definitely be there. There's a good show coming to Syracuse on the 27th. Guided By Voices are playing Armory High. I'm going to try to make it down for that one. Brian ob incredibly cool album packaging> Guided By Voices "Isolation Drills" -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Apr 6 14:30:18 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:30:18 -0400 Subject: MM in Buffalo Message-ID: I felt that both NH and Buff were too far to go on weeknights from Albany.. SHEESH Mike Ted Jackson wrote: > I see a Monster Magnet gig listed for Buffalo later this month. > Anyone going? > > theo > > -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "A truly great man never puts away the simplicity of a child. " --Chinese Proverb From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Apr 6 14:41:37 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:41:37 -0400 Subject: MM in Buffalo Message-ID: Make that LI and Buff. double sheesh Mike Michael S. Habiby wrote: > I felt that both NH and Buff were too far to go on weeknights from > Albany.. > > SHEESH > > Mike > > Ted Jackson wrote: > >> I see a Monster Magnet gig listed for Buffalo later this month. >> Anyone going? >> >> theo >> >> > > -- > ____________ > Mike Habiby > AIM: MSHabiby > MSN: MikeH12182 > www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 > corwyn at nycap.rr.com > _____________ > > "A truly great man never puts away the simplicity of a child. " > --Chinese Proverb > > -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "A truly great man never puts away the simplicity of a child. " --Chinese Proverb From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 6 18:22:57 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:22:57 EDT Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? Message-ID: Yo, JJ. > > JJ -- Really enjoyed your Space-Rock Thesis. Hopefully a work in progress... > > > Well, not really, except inasmuch I had to reformat it for > seding... How would you suggest altering, just updating the bands > mentioned (have to wait till I can afford more CDs if so) or the actual > text? Yeah, updating, more research, more bands, maybe some interviews and different perspectives (from musicians and fans)...of course, you can work all this in to your own thesis, by argument or whatever, since it's your project. > > > NP: Farflung: The Raven Ate the Moon (bloody-hell, the tracking on this > disc > > is even worse than 25,000 Feet!!) Flipside certainly did fuck-up their go > at > > space-rock, eh? oh well, better than nada... > > What's wrong with the tracking on _25,000 Feet_? Tracks 1 and 2 ("Solar Electric" and "Open Your Mouth") are both tracked as number 1. "Greater Waters" would seem to be one track, but turns into two when the slow, mandolin part starts. I wrote out my own track-list on a sticky-sheet and attached it to the insert: 1.Solar Electric/Open Yr Mouth 2.Don't Forget to Breathe 3.title track 4. and 5. Greater Waters (pts one and two, perhaps) 6.Landing on Cydonia 7.Hot Fluffy Mind I never noticed > anything wrong with it except that it's mastered so *bloody* > quietly. Which makes it a pain to DJ with apart from anything else. Yours, > > Jon > This is true--I just turn the level all the way up! Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 6 18:23:52 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:23:52 EDT Subject: NIK: Nik Turner Band Live 1978 Message-ID: Thanks for the in-depth review, Jon. I'll definitely pass until I see a better price... Chuck From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Apr 6 19:35:54 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:35:54 -0400 Subject: HW: Remasters of the Universe Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just wondering... Has anybody taken a close look at their copies of the five EMI-UK Remasters of the Universe (i.e., HW-through-Mountain Grill)? Apart from the weak glue that seemed to give way on the tray for the HW S/T (I've seen several of these like that), a couple of the discs themselves look a little strange to me. They all play just fine, but two of them have a strange shadowy appearance (I'm talking the all-important underside obviously) over a large area around the outside rim (these are long enough discs that this area matters, unlike some 40-minute albums) that doesn't look ideal to my eyes. [It's different than the irregular two-tone pattern in the surface 'glaze' (or whatever that stuff is) that I see sometimes...rather, it seems to be 'deep' within the acrylic.] One of the other ones has a very small bit like this also...the other two are 'clean.' I don't know if they were always like this and I never noticed? Anyway, it doesn't really look like degradation (though I really don't know about this sort of thing), but these are the sort of discs that I can't do without. Do I need to burn copies as "backup"? The well-known Dovetail Ozrics discs (Pungent Effulgent for me) are the only manufactured discs I've ever had go bad with aging to the point of being unplayable. (I've had a couple others that were manufactured with defects, though that's a different story.) Grakkl (FAA) From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Fri Apr 6 22:59:54 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 03:59:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Rock City In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, David Bottomley wrote: > >> >Money Tree(?) >> >> Please Ron - drop the vox from "Spacebrock" - it works *so* much better >> without. > > Unless Dave was just being random and philosophical at Croydon, I >think this one's now entitled `Money is the Root of All Evil'. I actually >quite like the way Ron's fitted the words over it but their pace is >different. I think the bit at the end of the refrain which is a few >power-chords before resuming the riff is now deprived of its effect and >should be rewritten. But I suspect that'll be too tricky... Yours, > Jon > >ObCD: The Outskirts of Infinity - _Incident at Pilatus_ >-- > Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! > =================================================================== > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Actually....Spacebrock reminds me of the track on the levitation album....'Space Chase',a Lloyd Langton/Bainbridge number I think. That was instrumental only and vocals would have ruined that aswell. I agree....Spacebrock works fine and does not need words on top of it! mel From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Apr 7 10:29:27 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:29:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING Message-ID: Yeah - basically the floating ice shelves in the sea round about Antarctica hold a large amount of the Antarctic land ice mass in place. Melt the sea ice and the land ice will start to slip - quite dramatically probably. There is work going on in Antarctica at the moment to try and determine at what times and to what extent the continent has been ice free and I was watching a tv programme recently where it said it does seem that there was a period when the ice did slide off a section of Antarctica and they were pointing to scouring on cliffs in Chile several miles high. However we are talking about some hundreds of thousands of years ago here and I'm not sure if the theory has ever been independently verified elsewhere. Apart from the recent Alaskan one the most dramatic recent-ish landslip tsunami known about dates to a massive slide in Norway about 7,000 years ago. Since this puts it into the Mesolithic period of habitation in Scotland archaeologists are paying close attention to shell midden and other habitation sites around the North Sea coastline to collect evidence of its effect since the comparatively shallow waters would have caused quite a dramatic surge. . jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Warburton To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: Re: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING > Even worse, the soap dish is at an angle, so when the underside melts, the > ice slips off when melting reaches a critical point. This is the situation > with one of the Antarctic ice sheets. So figure out the size of the > tsunamis if that big mother goes!!!! > ChrisW > > >Robert C. Mayo writes: > > > > > and even if it were true that the ice caps will melt, etc, why would that > > > cause flooding, necessarily? when the ice in a glass of icewater melts,the > > > glass doesn't overflow; the 'new' water takes up (nearly) the same space as > > > the ice that it used to be...did. > > > >Good analysis but I have Bad News: while the arctic ice is sea ice, most > >of the antarctic ice is on a shelf, as are the mountain glaciers. What > >happens if you have a full glass with ice on a soap dish above it, and > >then you melt the ice? > > > >FoFP > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Apr 7 11:32:04 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:32:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Rock City In-Reply-To: <00f201c0bc80$32d305a0$2ccc193e@jezd> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, J D wrote: > Space Is Deep only really works during second half, with first half solely > providing the expectation. I think this is true. Dave should lead it off with the guitar still, it's not fragile and empty enough on keys. Hey, let's have a 12-string on stage :-) > Where did Owl & Pussycat title come from? > I heard nothing that resembled it (it's the only poem I know!) Maybe they didn't do it? At Croydon it was a random piece of space-noise with vocals by Ron, which started with waffle about cryogenics, with a refrain based on the word `scream', then wandered into a Furry Freak `Owl and Pussycat'; I had lost interest in the words by this point and I only really know the first few verses, so when Kirsten pointed out that that's what it was it took me ages to pick it up, but it was all right; he was back on the pseudo-science by the end of it though. > Dave played guitar pretty much throughout which was pleasing to see & hear. He's even breaking into lead runs in a few places, isn't he? There should be more of that... His lead is different from Jerry's and I see no reason why we can't have them both. > Jerry's singing is much more prominant and is more than adequate. > Dave & Jerry should do all the singing and Ron move back to bass. Not at all sure about that: Jerry's voice isn't very powerful, I don't think he could carry a song by himself with a whole band behind him. `Alchemy' and `Hippy' tend to show this, and the Star Nation stuff suffers from it too IMO. Ron on the other hand can sing pretty well when he has a mind to. I just wish he'd concentrate a bit more and act the lunatic frontman as he did on the Alien & Love in Space tours, though I suppose since so much of that was programmed he had a fair idea what his limits were. He was a perfectly good bass player of course, I think the Strange Daze set shows him off really well, but I'd still rather have Alan. > I hate all this talking between songs that has crept in these last few > years. > We don't need song introductions or between member banter (well, I don't > anyway). I like it, it shows they're having fun, except it always seems to make Ron the butt of the rest of the band's jokes. Still, maybe that's how they work. Dave seems to take the piss out of everyone, mind. On the other hand if it was a bit more orchestrated, a bit more of a show, as I say above, I wouldn't mind at all. The whole Ledge of Darkness thing is still being talked about I see from the IRC log... Yours, Jon ObCD: Sons of Selina - _Nour d'Oui_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Apr 7 11:44:47 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 01:14:47 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind Alien 4 Message-ID: Just had a need to express my self in a haze of oil paint/kero euphoria Alien 4 - The Hawkwind Album Is an ass kikin album man - SHEEEITTT........ If Love in Space is better than Alien 4 where do I go to auction my body parts to get my hands on that one Mr Happy 8>A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Apr 7 17:22:21 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:22:21 +0100 Subject: OFF to Mandragora Lightshow Society In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Insolence wrote: > and that CD title I gave you ends in GATE, not GATES.....in case that > matters, and it's on LIQUID SOUND VISION...CD003.... They like their gates this lot don't they... And their cover artwork is very nice. Anyone actually heard any Mandra Gora Light Show Society and care to comment? Yours, Jon ObCD: Krel - _Ad Astra_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Apr 7 17:24:07 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:24:07 +0100 Subject: HW: 80s and beyond (was Re: Croydon) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Insolence wrote: > JJ said RE: Repeat Performance: * Snip* > "a cassette copy; no idea whether that's rare or not".... > > Correct me if you care..but I seem to recall "nabbing" a friends cassette > with gusto, as I think this includes "Dream of Isis"....which was the only > original anti-crackle copy you could get..... Curses, curses, and Big Mike Wright's in Watford now so even if it still on the stall he'll get there first. I should know by now never to pass up unknown Hawkwind that isn't obviously Dave Anderson material. Ah well... Yours, Jon Jarrett ObCD: Porcupine Tree - _Up the Downstair_ -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Apr 7 17:36:14 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:36:14 +0100 Subject: HW: Shouldn't Do That & another question?? In-Reply-To: <005e01c0b90d$b7690380$deb33bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Bill & Cynthia wrote: > Yes I know, but wouldn't it be great to own this one! I had several bikes as > a kid and not one of them could "fly sideways through time." Perhaps they all can if they're kept antiseptically clean (and painted silver of course). I had two silver bikes but one exploded (well, broke fairly dramatically at any rate) and the other was nicked. Now I let Hawkwind stay at home and take Kyuss out on the road - my current one's Green... Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Apr 7 17:38:34 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:38:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOOD GEORGE BUSH WITH YOUR E-MAILS! In-Reply-To: <200103301149.MAA28574@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, M Holmes wrote: > > and Florida would be the first state in the USA to be > > *catastrophically* affected by the effects of global warming (since the > > vast majority of the state is only a few feet above sea level ... at least > > Hawaii has some mighty tall mountains to retreat to). Sounds like payback > > time to me! > > People in glass houses Doug: would the last person to leave California > please switch out the lights :-) I'm going to be mean and drag this back on topic by mentioning that ST37's `California Frogmen' was clearly written to support Mike's point of view on this one. As well as being very silly. Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From swann at CUGC.ORG Sat Apr 7 17:40:22 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:40:22 -0400 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles In-Reply-To: ; from Michael Habiby on Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 07:02:04PM -0500 Message-ID: I was LOL too. "Hawkwind fans" are surely the most heterogeneous bunch that any band were ever saddled with. ;-) I'm in the "Live Chronicles rules with rod and scepter" * camp, myself... Steve * turn of phrase courtesy of Carl Anderson On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 07:02:04PM -0500, Michael Habiby wrote: > and I totally disagree LOL > > I got the Live before the studio and being a monster Moorcock fan I love the > extra additions and the live renditions of Chronicles Live. The studio > leaves me cold. Even the Vinyl.... > > Mike in troy NY > > :::-----Original Message----- > :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > :::Behalf Of Nick Medford > :::Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 6:53 PM > :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > :::Subject: Re: HW: Live Chronicles > ::: > ::: > :::In message <002d01c0afad$bbc31060$e107883e at jezd>, J D :::OMBE.FSNET.CO.UK> writes > :::> > :::> Hi, > :::> It continually surprises me how highly rated the Live > :::Chronicles LP is. > :::> For me, the studio LP was/is fabulous, this was backed up > :::by a great live show, > :::> however the magic failed to be captured on the recorded > :::live release. > :::> I seem to be in the minority here, but there you go. > ::: > :::I agree, it's probably the only HW live release where very few > :::of the songs > :::are as good as the original studio versions, like you I prefer the studio > :::Chronicle album. 'Moonglum' and 'Dreaming City' are good though. > ::: > :::-- > :::Nick Medford > ::: -- Steve Swann | Speak to me in many voices, make them all swann at cugc.org | sound like one - Blue Oyster Cult From swann at CUGC.ORG Sat Apr 7 18:07:48 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:07:48 -0400 Subject: HW:Space rock...IT IS! DRUMROLL PLEASE!!! In-Reply-To: ; from Al Ogilvy on Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 03:25:27AM -0500 Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 03:25:27AM -0500, Al Ogilvy wrote: > I think Samantha just won the suggested " least similar to HW but also > listened to by Hawkfans award " for the NWA and Eminem bit !! I sometimes feel like a real freak on this list (how's that for irony?) ;-) because I dig Eminem, too. AND Kid Rock. And Papa Roach. And Linkin Park. And Staind, VAST, Buckcherry, Godsmack, Disturbed, Lit, Incubus and Blink 182. I loved Creed's first album, but thought the second one was lame. I get a *bit* closer to toeing the party line around here ;-) with my interest in Stoner Rock: Kyuss, Dozer, Monster Magnet, Demon Cleaner, Celestial Season, Ridge, Unida, Ufomammut, Orange Goblin, Spiritual Beggars... Steve BOC-L founder and unrepentant musical heretic From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat Apr 7 18:28:24 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:28:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles In-Reply-To: <20010407174022.19939@cugc.org> Message-ID: Ironically I just relistened to the studio and I liked it better than the last time. Definitely not cold. But I still prefer the live versions. Mike in Troy NY :::-----Original Message----- :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :::Behalf Of Stephen Swann :::Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 5:40 PM :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :::Subject: Re: HW: Live Chronicles ::: ::: :::I was LOL too. "Hawkwind fans" are surely the most :::heterogeneous bunch that any band were ever saddled :::with. ;-) ::: :::I'm in the "Live Chronicles rules with rod and scepter" * :::camp, myself... ::: :::Steve ::: :::* turn of phrase courtesy of Carl Anderson ::: :::On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 07:02:04PM -0500, Michael Habiby wrote: :::> and I totally disagree LOL :::> :::> I got the Live before the studio and being a monster Moorcock :::fan I love the :::> extra additions and the live renditions of Chronicles Live. The studio :::> leaves me cold. Even the Vinyl.... :::> :::> Mike in troy NY :::> :::> :::-----Original Message----- :::> :::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :::> :::Behalf Of Nick Medford :::> :::Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 6:53 PM :::> :::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :::> :::Subject: Re: HW: Live Chronicles :::> ::: :::> ::: :::> :::In message <002d01c0afad$bbc31060$e107883e at jezd>, J D :::OMBE.FSNET.CO.UK> writes :::> :::> :::> :::> Hi, :::> :::> It continually surprises me how highly rated the Live :::> :::Chronicles LP is. :::> :::> For me, the studio LP was/is fabulous, this was backed up :::> :::by a great live show, :::> :::> however the magic failed to be captured on the recorded :::> :::live release. :::> :::> I seem to be in the minority here, but there you go. :::> ::: :::> :::I agree, it's probably the only HW live release where very few :::> :::of the songs :::> :::are as good as the original studio versions, like you I :::prefer the studio :::> :::Chronicle album. 'Moonglum' and 'Dreaming City' are good though. :::> ::: :::> :::-- :::> :::Nick Medford :::> ::: ::: :::-- :::Steve Swann | Speak to me in many voices, make them all :::swann at cugc.org | sound like one - Blue Oyster Cult ::: From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat Apr 7 18:29:47 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:29:47 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Alien 4 In-Reply-To: <004a01c0bf79$ad27f940$e8cb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: This Mikey LOVES Alien 4 (how come I can't type a backwards 4) as well. Thinks it rocks. Especially Sputnik Stan!! Mike in Troy NY -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Michael W Blackman Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 11:45 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Hawkwind Alien 4 Just had a need to express my self in a haze of oil paint/kero euphoria Alien 4 - The Hawkwind Album Is an ass kikin album man - SHEEEITTT........ If Love in Space is better than Alien 4 where do I go to auction my body parts to get my hands on that one Mr Happy 8>A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Apr 7 19:24:08 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:24:08 EDT Subject: OFF: Reminder: "Space Does Not Care" (5-9pm PST!) Message-ID: SDNC airs tonight 5-9pm PST! Thanks, Chuck "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Apr 7 19:34:49 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:34:49 -0400 Subject: HW: Pix Updates on MC Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS All crew please report to Mission Control Updates new Spring Tour pictures online + thumbnails page www.hawkwind.org.uk >updates ++MISSION ORDERS END From coral at APORT.RU Sat Apr 7 20:13:31 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 04:13:31 +0400 Subject: HW: tabs, chord files Message-ID: Hello! Recently there were messages with some Hawkwind tabs and chords. Did anynone compile a file with all transcribed Hawkwind tabs? best regards, Alissa From swann at CUGC.ORG Sat Apr 7 23:03:40 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:03:40 -0400 Subject: BOC: Joe Dirt soundtrack In-Reply-To: <20010404171256.D15577@telepres.com>; from Eric Siegerman on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 05:12:56PM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 05:12:56PM -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: > > OK I know what I'm doing this weekend--buying a large antenna so I can pick > > up Toronto rock stations. ;-) > > Don't bother. Things are just as pathetic up here. That's too bad. CFNY used to be a great station, and even Q-107 was a pretty good AOR station back in the day... Of course, none of the Toronto stations could touch the string of totally wacky Buffalo stations that Gary Storm was music director for back in the mid 80's. Remember WZIR and WUWU? Did you ever hear the "Signals from Space" show on WZIR? And WUWU once played a solid hour of Hawkwind; I still have it on tape somewhere. It was my (and a lot of my friends) introduction to the band. Steve From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Apr 7 23:57:05 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:57:05 -0400 Subject: WAY OFF: Insidious business practices In-Reply-To: <200104060529.AAA29147@chestburster.urbana.css.mot.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Matthew Braun wrote: => I don't mind the store knowing what I buy for purposes of inventory => management. Thing is, discount card information usually isn't. It's for => targeting marketing campaigns, and determining the demographics of purchases. That might be true, but I would personally put more stock in that statement if the stores around here made even a basic attempt to validate the information they collect on the application. (An easy way to validate the address would be for them to mail you the card, along with some coupons, say.) I hope they are targeting their marketing campaigns. I'd much rather receive targeted offers than something that has no relevance to my interests. => The information is sold to product manufacturers, or other firms => so they can target me with junk mail, telemarketing, etc. That's => what I'm not wild about. If they manage to sell such low quality data, good luck to them! I would be surprised if they put stock in much more than sex and age group on the application forms. Most people I know baulk at providing the usual demographic info (job title, income, etc.), and leave that blank. Nobody I know has been "made" to fill in that info having left it blank, or been denied a card for not having filled out everything on the form. Maybe they're tougher on the customers up in Illinois. Heck, if you forget your card at Food Lion and have bought a card item, they'll usually just scan the store card they keep by the register! => If the guy down at Murphy's knows what I drink, or the guy at the magazine => rack knows what I read to better serve me, hey, that's fine. But I do mind => if someone I've never heard of knows exactly what I buy. I dunno--maybe => it's just me, but IMHO it's none of their business...literally. :-) Hmm... When the "little guy" does it, it's considered "good service" or "personal attention," but when the "big guy" does it, it's a "sinister invasion of privacy." :-) You may not feel this information is pertinent to their business, but it is actually useful to them from an inventory standpoint. You may not want to help them out in this regard, in which case you can opt out. I wish the same were true of WWW sites, which are not so flexible. => The cash registers are all tied into the same system. At the end of the => day they know how many pounds of tomatoes, and how many boxes of Kraft => Dinner they have sold without scanning a single card. What they sell isn't => what they want to find out--exactly who buys what items is. Yes, that's exactly true, but what an individual buys is not interesting per se. It can help identify trends across groups of individuals, though. The cash registers tell them how much kitty burnin' gasoline, say, they're selling each day, but don't tell them what percentage of their customer base is buying it, or whether that percentage is buying it regularly. The cards let them know more about how a product is selling, not simply how it is doing on average. That is information useful to a large business. Suppose you were selling a new brand of kitty burnin' gasoline, but the kitty attracting pheromones are highly perisable (pardon the pun), and so you don't know whether to keep it stocked because it's marginally unprofitable. With register data, you just know how much is being sold, which doesn't help you much. With card data you can determine (via random sampling) whether it is being bought by a good percentage of your customer base, or whether a small niche is buying it. It can also suggest, by looking at purchases of it over time, whether it is bought sporadically, or whether it is something that is bought regularly. If it was bought sporadically by a minority of your customers, you might feel more justified in ditching it. However, if you also found that that minority bought it regularly, and also tended to buy high-margin items, you might want to keep it around, even though it might be unprofitable, because it could be a good "loss leader" for that niche to keep them coming to your store. If you were mad enough to trust your demographic data, and found there was a strong correlation between regular buying of kitty burnin' gasoline and the demographic group identified as "crackpot billionaire," then you'd definitely want to keep it on the shelves. :-) => I don't begrudge them making a buck. They've picked this system to profile => their customers to the point of finding out who buys what. Yes, it is useful to them to know what card #75623541 buys, but it is more actionable (to use the data mining jargon) to identify clusters across different card usage, and from them useful association rules, say. I would imagine they would actually prefer only a random sample of their customers use the cards, because they can estimate population behaviour from that yet only pay the rewards (card savings) to a small subset of their total customer base, saving them money. :-) I'm sure a lot of outfits make more of an emphasis on collecting and exploiting demographic information, but I also think they probably put more effort into validating that information. WWW sites are good at this, because they collect billing/credit card information, so at least they have a half-decent address to which to send the junk mail. (Plus they can more closely monitor what you do.) => It's not a big deal. That's what THEY would have us believe! :-) (Okay, so I'm grouchy... I'm doing my taxes.) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa => ObCD: The Who, "Who's next" "But it don't really happen that way at all." --- The Who, "Naked Eye", _Who's Next_ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Apr 8 00:58:13 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:58:13 -0400 Subject: BOC: Joe Dirt soundtrack In-Reply-To: <20010407230340.12108@cugc.org> Message-ID: On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Stephen Swann wrote: => Of course, none of the Toronto stations could touch the string of => totally wacky Buffalo stations that Gary Storm was music director for => back in the mid 80's. Remember WZIR and WUWU? Did you ever hear the => "Signals from Space" show on WZIR? And WUWU once played a solid hour => of Hawkwind; I still have it on tape somewhere. It was my (and a => lot of my friends) introduction to the band. Does anyone remember Alan Robson of Radio Metro in Newcastle? He used to DJ a heavy metal show called the "Hot 'n' Heavy Express," and used to have a segment on it called the "mega mix" where he'd play a mix of songs by the same band for about half an hour straight as a sampler/ retrospective. He did a Hawkwind mega mix once, and segued the tracks quicker than normal. Despite that, he still only managed to cover the gist of their official recorded output. (He even did a Venom mega mix once!:) Is he still on the air, I wonder? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 8 01:47:32 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 15:17:32 +0930 Subject: HW:Space rock...IT IS! DRUMROLL PLEASE!!! Message-ID: If I listed all my musical tastes and joys I think the mail would be deleted before anyone would be bothered to read it - it would be pages long Long live the heretics - they can't burn us at the stake anymore Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Swann To: Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 7:37 AM Subject: Re: HW:Space rock...IT IS! DRUMROLL PLEASE!!! > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 03:25:27AM -0500, Al Ogilvy wrote: > > I think Samantha just won the suggested " least similar to HW but also > > listened to by Hawkfans award " for the NWA and Eminem bit !! > > I sometimes feel like a real freak on this list (how's that > for irony?) ;-) because I dig Eminem, too. AND Kid Rock. > And Papa Roach. And Linkin Park. And Staind, VAST, > Buckcherry, Godsmack, Disturbed, Lit, Incubus and Blink 182. > I loved Creed's first album, but thought the second one was > lame. > > I get a *bit* closer to toeing the party line around here ;-) > with my interest in Stoner Rock: Kyuss, Dozer, Monster > Magnet, Demon Cleaner, Celestial Season, Ridge, Unida, > Ufomammut, Orange Goblin, Spiritual Beggars... > > Steve > BOC-L founder and unrepentant musical heretic > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 8 01:51:58 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 15:21:58 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind Alien 4 Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Habiby To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 7:59 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind Alien 4 This Mikey LOVES Alien 4 (how come I can't type a backwards 4) as well. Thinks it rocks. Especially Sputnik Stan!! I love that one too! Especially the spacey synth bridge in the middle - beautiful Mike in Troy NY -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Michael W Blackman Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 11:45 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Hawkwind Alien 4 Just had a need to express my self in a haze of oil paint/kero euphoria Alien 4 - The Hawkwind Album Is an ass kikin album man - SHEEEITTT........ If Love in Space is better than Alien 4 where do I go to auction my body parts to get my hands on that one Mr Happy 8>A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Alissa From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Sun Apr 8 08:38:31 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 14:38:31 +0200 Subject: HW: tabs, chord files In-Reply-To: <000f01c0bfc0$bf193460$d544efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: Hi, >Hello! >Recently there were messages with some Hawkwind tabs and chords. Did anynone >compile a file with all transcribed Hawkwind tabs? I uploaded a txt-file (URL: http://members.dencity.com/d-rider/hawtabs.txt ) with all the chords/tabs I could find. Most of them were tabbed by someone on this list, but I fortunately forgot who he was. If this person could please identify himself (I hate it to use things without giving the proper credit)? BTW, anyone here who has tabs/chords for High Rise? Playing the bass-line isn't much of a problem but I'm currently too lazy to transcribes Simon's synth-pads ;-) (c)IAO D+R From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Sun Apr 8 09:23:01 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 08:23:01 -0500 Subject: HW: tabs, chord files Message-ID: In the past I think I've tabbed out Psi Power, You Shouldn't Do That, Master of the Universe, D-Rider, Time We Left, Silver Machine, Hassan I Sahba, Assault and Battery. I don't recall which of these I may have posted though. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Hi, > > >Hello! > >Recently there were messages with some Hawkwind tabs and chords. Did anynone > >compile a file with all transcribed Hawkwind tabs? > > I uploaded a txt-file (URL: http://members.dencity.com/d-rider/hawtabs.txt > ) with all the chords/tabs I could find. Most of them were tabbed by > someone on this list, but I fortunately forgot who he was. If this person > could please identify himself (I hate it to use things without giving the > proper credit)? > BTW, anyone here who has tabs/chords for High Rise? Playing the bass-line > isn't much of a problem but I'm currently too lazy to transcribes Simon's > synth-pads ;-) > > (c)IAO > > D+R > From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Sun Apr 8 09:59:34 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 15:59:34 +0200 Subject: HW: tabs, chord files In-Reply-To: <001f01c0c02f$097da900$e7d1b718@cc177845c> Message-ID: Hi John, >In the past I think I've tabbed out Psi Power, You Shouldn't Do That, Master >of the Universe, D-Rider, Time We Left, Silver Machine, Hassan I Sahba, >Assault and Battery. I don't recall which of these I may have posted >though. I'm not sure either. The PSI Power tabs in the .txt-file are defintively by you (I found them in the BOC-L archives a long time ago). You also posted tabs for You Shouldn't Do That, but I can't find them in the archives anymore (and I lost some files, including my tab-archive, during the last Win reinstall :-( There's also MotU, D-Rider, Silver Machine, A&B in the file, but not in tab form (only chords). I dimly remember that those were done by Doug Bates. Could you please repost your tabs, if you still have same available in e-format? (c)IAO D+R From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Sun Apr 8 10:37:33 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 16:37:33 +0200 Subject: HW: Free Fall bass tab (was: HW: tabs, chord files) In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010408143321.024a1080@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenche n.de> Message-ID: Hi, I'm a bit forgetful the last days (caused by the latest batch of exams most probably ) thus I left out the Free Fall bass tab in the hawktabs-file: FREE FALL (tabbed by D+R) Slow Part G------7-7-7----------|-------7-7-7----------+ D---------------5--7--|----------------5--7--| A--5------------------|-5-5------------------| E---------------------|----------------------+ G------7-7-7----------|-------7-7-7----------+ D---------------5--7--|----------------5--7--| A---------------------|----------------------| E--7------------------|-7-7------------------+ G--------5--4-5-------|-7-5--7-5-4-----------+ D-----5---------------|----------------5-----| A---------------------|----------------------| E--8------------------|----------------------+ G---------------------+ D--8----5-8--8--------| A---------------------| E---------------------+ Middle Section G----9---7-----------------------------------+ D--------------10---9-10-9-------------------| A--7---7---10--------------10--7-------------| E--------------------------------------------+ Any corrections, improvements & suggestions welcome. (c)IAO D+R From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 8 12:39:59 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 02:09:59 +0930 Subject: HW: tabs, chord files Message-ID: You are a guitar player? These are just basic - they work for me! Michael Blackman ----- Original Message ----- From: Alissa To: Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 9:04 PM Subject: Re: HW: tabs, chord files > Subject: Re: HW: tabs, chord files > > > > would you like one or two > > > > Michael B > > Two ok. Thank you. > > Alissa -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Sea_King_Tab.txt URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Did anynone > >compile a file with all transcribed Hawkwind tabs? > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Apr 8 16:32:39 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 21:32:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: FLOODS ARE COMING In-Reply-To: <200103301211.NAA05538@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, M Holmes wrote: > Mark Jermy writes: > > > Academic and industrial opinion is rapidly approaching a concensus that > > using hydrogen as a way of transporting energy is the best solution. You can > > generate it in many ways, from fossil or renewable energy sources, you can > > use it in a number of ways, and the wast product is water. > > Even the major car manufacturers admit that hydrogen fuel cells will be > commonplace by 2030. And some day they'll have to release the patent on the McKinley Water-Powered Car or whatever it was called :-) Yours, Jon -- Spooky peanut terror bringing pain and death! =================================================================== Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From christmu at EUNET.NO Sun Apr 8 16:39:38 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 22:39:38 +0200 Subject: HW: Top 4 desrt Island discs Message-ID: Thought of introducing the subject - anyone game? My top 4 would be: Reading 86 Sonic Attack PXR5 Hall of the Mountain Grill Space Ritual On a strange off note: used to know this guy who's sister had her room full of David Bowie posters. Nothing strange about that, but his stepfather is a well known music star up here. On another note, I was given a red toothbrush the other day and I'm afraid to brush my teeth with it. Whats all this got to do with LSD and the apocalypse? Maybe Sesame Street knows the answers. Chr. "Playing golf with a Brahman is better than shooting the shit with a Praner." - Tubrok The Alterer From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Sun Apr 8 16:58:46 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:58:46 +1200 Subject: Supa Nova Radio In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010408155940.024a3ec0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: People if you want to hear some great sounds on radio go to this URL: http://www.supanovaradio.co.uk/nhssa01.htm The current show went online on April 8th, Some of the bands/artists featured are: Lamp of the Universe Trottel Monodream Korai Orom Disco Biscuits Eat Static Show goes for just on 1 hour. This underground radio station (from the UK) is in danger of going off air so check out the great sounds. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From christmu at EUNET.NO Sun Apr 8 16:57:37 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 22:57:37 +0200 Subject: Top 5 desert Island discs Message-ID: (Ignore last post as it was bugged!) Thought of introducing the subject - anyone game? My top 5 would be: Reading 86 Sonic Attack PXR5 Hall of the Mountain Grill Space Ritual On a strange off note: used to know this guy who's sister had her room full of David Bowie posters. Nothing strange about that, but his stepfather is a well known music star up here. On another note, I was given a red toothbrush the other day and I'm afraid to brush my teeth with it. Whats all this got to do with LSD and the apocalypse? Maybe Sesame Street knows the answers. Chr. ObCD: TSOL - Dance With Me "Playing golf with a Brahman is better than shooting the shit with a Praner." - Tubrok The Alterer From coral at APORT.RU Sun Apr 8 16:58:14 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:58:14 +0400 Subject: HW: tabs, chord files Message-ID: > I uploaded a txt-file (URL: http://members.dencity.com/d-rider/hawtabs.txt > ) with all the chords/tabs I could find. Most of them were tabbed by > someone on this list, but I fortunately forgot who he was. If this person Thank you! Alissa From coral at APORT.RU Sun Apr 8 17:00:48 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 01:00:48 +0400 Subject: HW: tabs, chord files Message-ID: > You are a guitar player? > > These are just basic - they work for me! I play bass a little. Now trying some guitar. I'm going to form a band in which I'll be on vocals though. But I wanted to make three or four HW songs. From christmu at EUNET.NO Sun Apr 8 17:16:55 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 23:16:55 +0200 Subject: OFF: A Disease of The Mind Message-ID: ...has undergone some renovations at http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/ Be sure to check out the Hawkwind Electric Library and Scenes of Black Sorcery- Chr. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Apr 8 19:15:06 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:15:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: a funny fella In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Layla Thompson wrote: > Hello, any of you lot heard of a guy called Des Butler?? No, unless you mean Les Barker in which case yes, most certainly. Yours, Jon ObCD: Hawkwind - _Choose Your Masques_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Sun Apr 8 19:21:50 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 18:21:50 -0500 Subject: HW: tabs, chord files Message-ID: It should be noted that my transcription of "Psi Power" is from the "Stonehenge: This is Hawkwind--Do Not Panic" LP and not the Hawklords' version. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Hi John, > > >In the past I think I've tabbed out Psi Power, You Shouldn't Do That, Master > >of the Universe, D-Rider, Time We Left, Silver Machine, Hassan I Sahba, > >Assault and Battery. I don't recall which of these I may have posted > >though. > > I'm not sure either. The PSI Power tabs in the .txt-file are defintively by > you (I found them in the BOC-L archives a long time ago). You also posted > tabs for You Shouldn't Do That, but I can't find them in the archives > anymore (and I lost some files, including my tab-archive, during the last > Win reinstall :-( > There's also MotU, D-Rider, Silver Machine, A&B in the file, but not in tab > form (only chords). I dimly remember that those were done by Doug Bates. > Could you please repost your tabs, if you still have same available in > e-format? > > (c)IAO > > D+R > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Apr 8 19:24:26 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:24:26 +0100 Subject: Gong 25th Anniversary CD set In-Reply-To: <85.8ec2357.27f606a1@aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Eli Friedman wrote: > Hi Mike. I don't have it in front of me, but I'm fairly certain that there is > not a solo Blake piece per se on the Gong Birthday double CD. On the other > hand there are a bunch of instrumental sections from the trilogy albums that > are quite synthesizer dominated, and the CD opens, (after an intro by Thom > the Poet) with a synth dominated instrumental called I believe "Floating Into > A Birthday Gig." The 2nd CD starts with a remake of "Sprinkling of Clouds" > called "Clouds Again" which I thought was really very good. If you like Tim's > playing it is very well showcased on this set, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't > take a solo turn. I actually think that they're all very much band tracks. > Hope that helps. Yours, Eli Can confirm there is no solo Moonweed on this, though his introduction for `Flute Salad' is glorious and well worth shelling out for considering how excellent the other stuff on it is. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Apr 8 19:31:23 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:31:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Fwd: Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <010d01c0b988$87942e20$2765a58e@pavilion> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, BL Young wrote: > Hey, check this out -- I bid on a Hawkwind video ("Night of the Hawks" -- > ebay Item #1418898350) on ebay, and a couple days later I got this email > from another person completely. The auction hasn't closed yet, and I've > been outbid so I'm glad I got this warning before I went back to rebid... > > Take it for what it's worth, as I can't verify the accuracy of the > statements below. Sounds scary, though, as I certainly don't condone the > sale of non-official Hawkwind items. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 3:31 PM > Subject: Hawkwind > > > > Just a friendly warning. The seller peng8378 is selling low quality > bootleg > > videos and not originals as he claims. He has been suspended from ebay > over > > 14 different times for selling copied tapes each time with a different > screen > > name. Every time he gets suspended, he creates a new account and comes > back > > to rip off a few more honest members. The quality is terrible as I have > > gotten videos from him in the past. He also scans covers from other > peoples > > auctions and makes homemade video covers out of them. > > For proof go to yahoo.com and hit yahoo auctions. Then highlight advanced > > search and highlight seller search. Type in myvideocollection as the > seller > > and read his feedback profile. This is the same guy. He uses several > > different names as well. His real name is Tony Giannone. He also goes by > Lou > > Gian and has also used female names as well. He is a real con-man. > > He is suspended from selling in the U.S., so now he sells in the UK. Why > > else would a person from the U.S. sell items out of the UK? I hope that > you > > research this information so you are not ripped off by this person. There > is > > a group of about 20 of us that watch out for this guy. Whenever we find a > new > > account we warn other bidders. If this is the guy's name, and it is him that's using that e-mail address, then I've seen him ranted about on alt.music.deep-purple too. You might want to steer clear of him on the offchance, yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Apr 8 14:37:08 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 19:37:08 +0100 Subject: HW:Space rock...IT IS! DRUMROLL PLEASE!!! Message-ID: Now THERE'S one stunning band!!!!! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Swann" To: Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 11:07 PM Subject: Re: HW:Space rock...IT IS! DRUMROLL PLEASE!!! And Linkin Park. From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Mon Apr 9 04:03:20 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:03:20 +0000 Subject: HW:Single Message-ID: Hi, Just been browsing Yahoo and landed on the Hawkwind records for sale. I came across a single slated for future release. It is titled "Its Not Over" and features the following tracks by Screamin' Jay Hawkins; Hawkwind; Hunter (Rap) Hayes. Song List : It's Not Over; Colors Of Freedom; Psychosis; ... Details at http://album.yahoo.com/shop?d=ha&id=1804231336&clink=dmks/Hawkwind&cf=10 Anybody got any ideas? Mark ---------End of Included Message---------- From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Apr 9 08:22:45 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:22:45 EDT Subject: MM in Buffalo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 6 Apr 2001, at 14:28, Brian Halligan wrote: > Theo wrote: > > I see a Monster Magnet gig listed for Buffalo later this month. > > Anyone going? > > I'm heading home for Easter, otherwise I'd definitely be there. > > There's a good show coming to Syracuse on the 27th. Guided By Voices > are playing Armory High. I'm going to try to make it down for that > one. > Oh, yeah, I'm down with that... theo And I was thinkin' how the world should've cried On the day Jack Kirby died. I wonder if I'm ill. --D. Wyndorf From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Apr 9 08:57:29 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:57:29 -0400 Subject: OFF: MM in Buffalo In-Reply-To: <3AD17155.23616.469C1C@localhost> Message-ID: > On 6 Apr 2001, at 14:28, Brian Halligan wrote: >> There's a good show coming to Syracuse on the 27th. Guided By Voices >> are playing Armory High. I'm going to try to make it down for that >> one. Theo replied: > Oh, yeah, I'm down with that... Sarcasm? As a poster for a local coffee shop reads, "Come here and eat some tofu, you frickin' hippie!" ;-) > And I was thinkin' how the world should've cried > On the day Jack Kirby died. > I wonder if I'm ill. > > --D. Wyndorf To quote '80s dance band Snap (as we all should), he's "the lyrical Jessie James." His lyrics really make the songs stand out. I love it! Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Apr 9 09:23:11 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:23:11 EDT Subject: OFF: MM in Buffalo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9 Apr 2001, at 8:57, Brian Halligan wrote: > > On 6 Apr 2001, at 14:28, Brian Halligan wrote: > >> There's a good show coming to Syracuse on the 27th. Guided By > >> Voices are playing Armory High. I'm going to try to make it down > >> for that one. > > Theo replied: > > Oh, yeah, I'm down with that... > > Sarcasm? > No way! Should be a gas... theo And I was thinkin' how the world should've cried On the day Jack Kirby died. I wonder if I'm ill. --D. Wyndorf From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon Apr 9 09:37:51 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:37:51 -0400 Subject: Where's Ben Cohen at these days?? Message-ID: I tried to email our list moderator Ben Cohen, but the email bounced. Does he have a new address? Ben, are you listening? John From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Apr 9 12:44:36 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:44:36 -0400 Subject: OFF: HW: Aural Innovations new issue Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com The April issue of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock Exploration is now online. Aural Innovations covers spacerock, psychedelia, electronic music, plus more eclectic forms of jazz and progressive rock. Note that recent months have seen a dramatic increase in the amount of review material I'm receiving. I'm slowly beefing up the staff so be assured that your music hasn't been forgotten. Feel free, however, to ask about the status of the music you submitted. I'm planning yet another issue for late May in an effort to get caught up. I'm also wrapping up two new radio shows so I'll be spamming you again soon. One of them will be a Farflung special featuring Farflung, Pressurehed, and related projects. The new issue includes: Mandra Gora Lightshow Society (review/interview) Martian Death Lyric (review/interview) W.O.O. Revelator (review/interview) Sound files uploaded for those who want HEAR the Lemmy interview from last issue Garden of Delights - 2000/2001 Releases overview Tales Of The ACTION MAN: The Dancing Dahlia Live show reviews Recent Releases From Woronzow Recent Releases From Meteor City Recent Releases From Harsh Reality/Audiofile RoundTapes Recent Releases From Silber Records Recent Releases From Neurosis Records Recent Releases From Meniscus Records Plus loads of general reviews!!! You can go directly to the new issue at: http://aural-innovations.com/issues/issue15/issue15.html The Aural Innovations mail order catalog has been growing in leaps and bounds!!! Thanks to all who have taken the plunge. Check it out for CD's by some of the best bands that you have, and maybe haven't, heard of. All the above can be found by setting your vessel's controls for http://Aural-Innovations.com Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) Aural Innovations SpaceRock e-zine http://Aural-Innovations.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Apr 9 13:03:12 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:03:12 -0400 Subject: HW:Single Message-ID: Mark posted... >Just been browsing Yahoo and landed on the Hawkwind records for sale. I >came across a single slated for future release. >It is titled "Its Not Over" and features the following tracks by >Screamin' Jay Hawkins; Hawkwind; Hunter (Rap) Hayes. >Song List : It's Not Over; Colors Of Freedom; Psychosis; ... > >Details at >http://album.yahoo.com/shop?d=ha&id=1804231336&clink=dmks/Hawkwind&cf=10 > >Anybody got any ideas? Well, I have no explanation for how this item is 'advertised,' but it's obviously some form of Levitation (in triplicate), with the title track and Motorway City oddly retitled as follows... 1. It's Not Over 2. Colors Of Freedom I'm guessing these two tracks might be by Hawkins and Hayes, eh? Apparently, somebody was alphabetizing all the artists they knew and possibly some of the tracks leaked into each other. :) "You got chocolate in my peanut butter!" Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Love the cover art. P.P.S. Who's gonna write the review? From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 9 15:58:19 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:58:19 -0400 Subject: HW: tabs, chord files Message-ID: On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 14:38:31 +0200, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: >I uploaded a txt-file (URL: http://members.dencity.com/d-rider/hawtabs.txt >) with all the chords/tabs I could find. Most of them were tabbed by >someone on this list, but I fortunately forgot who he was. If this person >could please identify himself (I hate it to use things without giving the >proper credit)? Some of the chords (but none of the TABs) are from me. At least "Damnation Alley" is, but the posted version is incorrect ... a couple people (including Steve Pond, who played it live several times with the lyricist) sent me some corrections that are archived on boc-l at: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0006D&L=BOC-L&P=R2311 >BTW, anyone here who has tabs/chords for High Rise? Playing the bass-line >isn't much of a problem but I'm currently too lazy to transcribes Simon's >synth-pads ;-) Hmm ... that shouldn't be too tough to figure out (the chords, at least) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Mon Apr 9 16:01:35 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:01:35 -0400 Subject: additional SLOTERDIJK live dates (All shows electric unless indicated) Message-ID: Hello friends, Our touring schedule is beginning to materialize. I would like to provde you with the list of confirmed and non confirmed dates thus far: Monday April 16th (confirmed) acoustic set: Fergie's Pub (open mic event) 1214 Sansom St. Philadelphia, PA (215) 928-8118 www.fergies.com 8:30 PM until FREE!!! Saturday April 21 (confirmed) acoustic set: The Drums an Space Place ( of the Greenstreet Ice cream Cafe, and Coffeehouse), adjacent to the Ice cream Parlor, (open Jam event) House # 893 South Broad street, Trenton, NJ (609) 394-1969 joe-pop at msn.com Should be 7:30-until, but feel free to call or e-mail for exact starting time FREE!!! May 19th or July 7th (unconfirmed) "The Dogfish" (of The Dogfish Brewery) Rehobath Beach, Delaware www.dogfish.com June 10th ( unconfirmed) Club South Bank, Trenton NJ Sloterdijk and Babylonian Tiles Sometime this summer: (unconfirmed) "The Wrong Way", Amityville, Long Island, New York We are currently trying to work out a date here. More details will be announced as they arrive..We will also post all dates on the calendar section of our site at: www.mp3.com/sloterdijk Peace, MIke (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Mon Apr 9 16:33:04 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 22:33:04 +0200 Subject: HW: tabs, chord files In-Reply-To: <200104091958.PAA28144@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi Doug >Some of the chords (but none of the TABs) are from me. At least "Damnation >Alley" is, but the posted version is incorrect ... a couple people >(including Steve Pond, who played it live several times with the lyricist) >sent me some corrections that are archived on boc-l at: >http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0006D&L=BOC-L&P=R2311 Thanks for pointing me to the corrected version and clarifying who transcribed the chords. I've uploaded a corrected txt-file (I also included Michael Blackman's tabs). > >BTW, anyone here who has tabs/chords for High Rise? Playing the bass-line > >isn't much of a problem but I'm currently too lazy to transcribes Simon's > >synth-pads ;-) > >Hmm ... that shouldn't be too tough to figure out (the chords, at least) Not really. I think I'll give it a try the next week (holiday hooray!). BTW, there's also a tabfile for "Quark, Strangeness & Charm" lingering on my HD. I'll post it if I can find it in all the mess. (c)IAO D+R From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 9 18:58:29 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:58:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Croydon debrief Message-ID: Nice review Jon - it brought some memories back! I'm sorry I didn't get to hear Bedouin especially if they were doing a more ambient sound - a slightly calmer less frenetic Bedouin would be very interestig. However the advantage of not hearing Bedouin was that we got to talk instead with Kris Tait and she is an amazing person! I'd never been quite so aware of the amount of energy involved in organzation and administration that is going on all the time a show is taking place. The simple process of getting crew people on and off a stage within the restrictions imposed by a venue, sorting everything out, persuading everyone to be where they should be when they should be and making sure that everyone has everything they need not to mention unexpected surprises like discovering the venue has already spent its advertising quota months beforehand! Basic ordinary administration going on all the time behind the scenes while on-stage, out front, magic is being created! I guess I was always aware such things were going on but to have an insight into the sheer amount of work that must be involved was strangely revelatory! So thank you Kris for your generosity and thanks to everyone I met afterwards. I confess I was somewhat overwhelmed but it was really very interesting! Wish I could have made it to Aldershot but had to travel in the opposite direction and have only just managed to catch up with everything now. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Jarrett To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:45 PM Subject: Re: HW: Croydon debrief > > That review I promised: > > Bedouin were in fine form when we got in but they'd already had > twenty minutes to warm up if they'd started when my ticket said the doors > were, which was half an hour after the venue thought they > were. Bastards. Never mind. Bedouin weren't being as Motorhead as > usual. This is a good thing as they have a genuine space to fill doing > Ozrics-ambience space metal instead. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Apr 9 18:37:10 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:37:10 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com Message-ID: Hi Folks... Ken Golden at Laser's Edge has some interesting things in his 'clearance' section at the moment....including... Calvert's Hype CD (crappy front cover) $6 Circle's Zoplaki, Hissi, and Fraten each $10 (good deal! I'd recommend Hissi for new listeners, though all three are good in different way, Zopalki louder/harsher and Fraten more laid-back/postrocky) A bunch of Embryo discs for $9 ea. Maximum Coherence During Flying (interesting Texas band) $10 ST 37's Spaceage for $12 Tubilah Dog (sans Jerry, con drum-robot) "ISoP" for merely $5 (certainly worth it, if only for Wyrd Romance) and some other things... Grakkl (FAA) P.S. The newest Expose magazine has an add for the Black Widow label that lists two new titles by ST 37 on the way out (!), and two by Simon House (one the long-awaited Spiral Galaxy Revisited). I also wonder about the double sci-fi flick 'tribute' - that should appear within the next decade I imagine. The artwork for Simon's SGR was shown, suggesting this one may actually exist...who carries it? From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Apr 9 21:18:26 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 02:18:26 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com In-Reply-To: <200104092348.TAA18801@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: In article <200104092348.TAA18801 at mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K Henderson writes >Hi Folks... > >Ken Golden at Laser's Edge has some interesting things in his 'clearance' >section at the moment....including... > >Calvert's Hype CD (crappy front cover) $6 >Circle's Zoplaki, Hissi, and Fraten each $10 (good deal! I'd recommend >Hissi for new listeners, though all three are good in different way, Zopalki >louder/harsher and Fraten more laid-back/postrocky) >A bunch of Embryo discs for $9 ea. >Maximum Coherence During Flying (interesting Texas band) $10 >ST 37's Spaceage for $12 >Tubilah Dog (sans Jerry, con drum-robot) "ISoP" for merely $5 (certainly >worth it, if only for Wyrd Romance) > >and some other things... > >Grakkl (FAA) > >P.S. The newest Expose magazine has an add for the Black Widow label that >lists two new titles by ST 37 on the way out (!), and two by Simon House >(one the long-awaited Spiral Galaxy Revisited). I also wonder about the >double sci-fi flick 'tribute' - that should appear within the next decade I >imagine. The artwork for Simon's SGR was shown, suggesting this one may >actually exist...who carries it? www.cdzone.co.uk - or at least, they advertise it. Whether they'll have it in stock or not is another matter. www.amazon.co.uk have it listed, but amazon.com don't -- David Blair From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 9 23:59:55 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mdc) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:59:55 -0600 Subject: HW: SIMON HOUSE EXISTS In-Reply-To: <200104092348.TAA18801@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: SPIRAL GALAXY REVISITED exists.... I have it on vinyl, and on CD.... Kevin Sommers has had it for ages,,,,thanks to, cough, uhmm, ME!!! I know someone else that has had it for ages too, but I am scared to talk.... mike coleman From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 10 06:35:07 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 06:35:07 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com Message-ID: SGR exists and is superb. I got my copy from that nice Mr Garibaldi at CD Services. From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Apr 10 08:15:13 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:15:13 -0400 Subject: BOC: Album news from Melne Message-ID: "At last, the title for the new album has been announced. The band did not choose any of the fan suggestions, but rather drew from the earliest days of before-they-were-BOC and chose: CURSE OF THE HIDDEN MIRROR" Hmmmm interesting. "The band finished mixing last week, and it is getting mastered this week. June 5th is still the release date." Right Arm... Keep on rocking Mike -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "A truly great man never puts away the simplicity of a child. " --Chinese Proverb From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 10 08:22:26 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:22:26 EDT Subject: BOC: Album news from Melne In-Reply-To: <3AD2F951.6020308@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: On 10 Apr 2001, at 8:15, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > "At last, the title for the new album has been announced. The band did > not choose any of the fan suggestions, but rather drew from the > earliest days of before-they-were-BOC and chose: CURSE OF THE HIDDEN > MIRROR" > > Hmmmm interesting. > > "The band finished mixing last week, and it is getting mastered this > week. June 5th is still the release date." > > Right Arm... > > Keep on rocking > > Mike -- Combine this with the promised release of the remastered stuff commencing 1 May, and it looks like a great year for BOC. Hope they tour like hell to back the new disc, as much of last year/this winter was spent in the studio and off the road... theo And I was thinkin' how the world should've cried On the day Jack Kirby died. I wonder if I'm ill. --D. Wyndorf From AgentOF at AOL.COM Tue Apr 10 08:26:31 2001 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:26:31 EDT Subject: BOC: Album news from Melne Message-ID: In a message dated 4/10/01 7:23:32 AM Central Daylight Time, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: >>> Hope > they tour like hell to back the new disc, as much of last year/this > winter was spent in the studio and off the road... > > I'm not going to wait to find out. May is BOC month for me and I'll see > the Lake Charles show, the Texas Swing, and the Last Days of May Reno/Tahoe > shows. I'm sure when June comes, I'll be thinking "Thanks, I needed that!" chuck -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Apr 10 08:41:09 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:41:09 -0400 Subject: BOC: Album news from Melne In-Reply-To: <3AD2F951.6020308@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: Mike Habiby wrote: > "At last, the title for the new album has been announced. The band did not > choose any of the fan suggestions, but rather drew from the earliest days of > before-they-were-BOC and chose: > CURSE OF THE HIDDEN MIRROR" > > Hmmmm interesting. Yes. Interesting. With the right cover art it could be cool. Something abstract, as opposed to having a picture of a sinister-looking Egyptian or Gypsy cabinet, which may or may not be hiding a mirror. ;-) > "The band finished mixing last week, and it is getting mastered this week. > June 5th is still the release date." 56 days and counting... 8 days until the SFG CD is shipped ?? days until the remasters are released Man, we're spoiled. :-) Brian obRejectedAlbumName> Vox Zarathustra -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Apr 10 08:39:14 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:39:14 -0400 Subject: BOC: Album news from Melne In-Reply-To: <3AD2F951.6020308@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Michael S. Habiby wrote: => "The band finished mixing last week, and it is getting mastered this week. => June 5th is still the release date." Anyone have a tracklist for it? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 10 08:45:26 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:45:26 EDT Subject: BOC: Album news from Melne In-Reply-To: <73.ca55d74.280455f7@aol.com> Message-ID: On 10 Apr 2001, at 8:26, Chuck Saden wrote: > In a message dated 4/10/01 7:23:32 AM Central Daylight Time, > tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: > >>> Hope > > they tour like hell to back the new disc, as much of last year/this > > winter was spent in the studio and off the road... > > > > I'm not going to wait to find out. May is BOC month for me and I'll > > see the Lake Charles show, the Texas Swing, and the Last Days of May > > Reno/Tahoe shows. I'm sure when June comes, I'll be thinking > > "Thanks, I needed that!" Lucky devil, you! Enjoy the shows... theo From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Tue Apr 10 09:25:00 2001 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:25:00 -0400 Subject: BOC: NEW ALBUM TITLE Message-ID: Per Eric on AOL this weekend, the new BOC album (due out June 5th) will be titled: "Curse Of The Hidden Mirror" For those of you that don't know, that was the title of one of the tracks on the Stalk-Forrest Group album that was done for Elektra back in the late 60's. John From LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM Tue Apr 10 10:20:48 2001 From: LindasS at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:20:48 -0500 Subject: FW: HELLO STEVE!... Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Jim Finity [mailto:jmfinity at ameritech.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 12:16 AM To: Stephen Lindas Subject: HELLO STEVE!... Hello Steve! Just letting you know that I am back from England. I had a good time and it was quite fruitful. I saw the postings on BOC-L and I would like you to post the following letter from me on the BOC-L to clear up some of this misunderstanding. Thanks. Jim ********** Hello Folks! I have asked Stephen Lindas to post this on the BOC-L to try to clear up some misunderstanding that seems to be going on about some CD's that I made from tapes of the live shows that Strange Trips has done with various bands. Steve Hayes inadvertently set this off with some comments he made concerning the quality of the CD's and by saying they were "bootlegs". Let me start by saying that Steve Hays, Eli Friedman, Stephen Lindas and Keith Henderson are all my friends and have been great supporters of Strange Trips and the Strange Daze Festivals and shows along with many others. I couldn't have done any of them without their help AND the support of the SpaceRock fans who have faithfully attended these events. I thank them all! I believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion on these CD's (or any issue for that matter) and that's all right with me. I make no claim that these are the greatest CD's ever made. They are just what they are...a documentation of some of the live shows that Strange Trips has done over the last 5 years. No more, no less! Andy G apparently likes them and that says somehting good. He is up on things and I have always felt that he gives his honest opinion whenever he has said anything about a release. I guess that only the person listening can really make the decision on whether they like them or not. As to the legitimacy of the CD's - I (and the artist/bands involved) claim ownership of them with the recording credit belonging to the people who did the job. I don't know who else they would belong to! I call these "accidental recordings" (with the exception of the Far Flung which Steve Hays mutli-tracked and mixed) because I didn't set out to make a CD. These were given to me by the folks who recorded them and I thought that they sounded like decent, honest recordings. What you hear is what they did! All I did was "master" them with a Sound Forge program by doing a bit of editing, cleaning them up, pumping the volume up or down as needed, flowing the songs together and finishing up with a couple of filters to remove hiss and rumble. I put together some beautiful artwork that I came across and did the layout. That's all...but to me they FEEL good! And to be fair to Steve the copies that he recieved of the CD's weren't the final ones that went out to Andy G at CD services. The Far Flung that Steve received had some distortion in the low end. This obviously didn't sit well with him as he recorded that particular one. When he alerted me to this, I listened again and he was right! There was a low end rumble causing distortion. This was because I had forgotten to run a low filter on it to remove this unwanted noise from the CD. I corrected this and it was much better. Just a simple oversight on my part before the final ones were produced. The CD's came together when I told Andy G that I was fooling around with them and was working on putting some together for release on what I would call the Strange Recordings label. He said that he believed there would be an interest in them and graciously offered to place an order for some. Encouraged by that response I hustled to get some together. Hawkwind was touring England soon and with Andy buying these CD's from me I would be able to catch a low cost flight and go over to England to see them and talk to Harvey Bainbridge, Alan Davey's Bedouin, and Mr. Quimby's Beard about doing something in America. The actual number of CD's produced was 110 of the Harvey Bainbridge (with 30 of them going to Harvey) 40 of the Far Flung and 40 of the Anubian Lights. Tommy Grenas has told me in the past that I am welcome to make something out of the recordings I have and I will be sending Tommy his 25% of the produced CD's soon. I think giving the artist 25% of the finished CD's for them to sell is a good deal and if anyone ever should actually express interest in "putting them out" then of course the artist/recorder should get his fair share. These aren't really limited editions, but rather all that were made at the moment. They cost me about $3.50 to make along with many hours of copying, cutting and folding the front insert and tray cards. Did you ever try to make 180 CD's at home? It's quite tedious and I did them all by myself. Kind of like a Kathy Lee Gifford operation! Not exactly a big money making business, but it helps get the music out to the people and it also keeps the wheels moving. I'm afraid that's all we can hope for at the moment. If Steve thinks it is fairer to just trade them, then he is welcome to do so. I don't do this for the money, so it doesn't really matter to me. Buying them from us just helps support the overall cause. I will also be getting them out to radio stations, web radio, newsletters, etc. very soon. I have lost money again last year. I still owe the t-shirt man about $800 and I also owe both of the sound companies money. I am in the process of re-arranging my finances and selling property to pay off these debts. But I believe that when I'm finished doing these things we will be stronger than ever and we have some great things coming up. I am starting to arrange a fall tour (probably October) featuring Harvey Bainbridge (with an all new show) and Mr. Quimby's Beard. I saw them live and THEY ARE KILLER!!! A phenomenal show. This IS the band we have been waiting for! We will probably be booking shows in different cities with Nucleon, Quarkspace, Skye Klad and any others who are interested. Stange Trips will also be doing a large indoor show in Cleveland with these bands at that time in place of the Strange Daze Festival. We have heard from a lot of people who have wanted us to do an indoor show for quite a while because they weren't really campers. With the cost of the campground eating up a large chunk of our money it only makes sense to try it out. I also have plans to get some Opti-Kinetic projectors and other items to pump up The Solar Fire Lightshow to take it to another level. If you saw the Ozric Tentacles show in Cleveland when they were here in October then you would have caught a glimpse of what The Solar Fire Lightshow looked like combined with the Opti's. It looked great and that's our future! Hawkwind just finished a great little tour of England and the shows I saw were very strong. One of the tightest line-ups that I have seen since they blew through the US in '89. Very powerful, they were in fine form even bringing out oldies like Hurry On Sundown and doing them up right. People loved it! Others on the BOC-L have reviews of the shows so I won't bother to say more other than there's a resurgence going on and a lot of very good things are developing. Bedouin has plans to tour Germany and are working on a new release. They're knocking them dead over in Merry Olde England as they support Hawkwind (along with Mr. Dibbs' Spacehead) and do their own shows. A very tight outfit! Simon House has been working with them and occasionally Harvey Bainbridge will join them for a show. Great line up. Alan hopes to get Bedouin over here next year so keep your fingers crossed! I hope that clears things up a bit about what is going on. We'll be re-vamping the Strange Trips website soon and will be posting these things there shortly. But remember....you heard it first on BOC-L. The most important thing is to keep up the Spirit! Everything else is just bullshit. Love to All Those Who Follow the Light! Stay tuned. Jim Lascko From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 10 12:18:35 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Casper) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:18:35 -0600 Subject: FW:(OFF) JIM FINITY In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D80074B6E08@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: MAY Jim catch many more a flight to see much more Hawkwind...... and Jim...please kick me out my copies....so long as I get them..... please pass this on Stephe... mike coleman From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Apr 10 11:18:01 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:18:01 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com Message-ID: Hi again... I said... >P.S. The newest Expose magazine has an add for the Black Widow label that >lists two new titles by ST 37 on the way out (!), and two by Simon House >(one the long-awaited Spiral Galaxy Revisited). I also wonder about the >double sci-fi flick 'tribute' - that should appear within the next decade I >imagine. The artwork for Simon's SGR was shown, suggesting this one may >actually exist...who carries it? Thanks for the responses about the House CD. AndyGee, I'd like one put into my shopping cart, if you've got it. Um...I was wrong about the ST37 issue...they have one CD coming out on Black Widow (forgotten the title)...the other one is the self-released CD-R (?) that Doug P. reviewed in the new issue of AI now online. Just to clarify... Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Note to Andy...there are two different Magma 3CD sets just out, aren't there? Well, I was thinking of the 2000 live recording, though I see the old one ('76) has a live version of De Futura which almost certainly makes this a must have also. Let me know if you have either/both. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Apr 10 12:17:05 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:17:05 -0400 Subject: HW: HELLO STEVE!... Message-ID: Jim via Steve said... >Hello Steve! >Just letting you know that I am back from England. I had a good time and >it was quite fruitful. >I saw the postings on BOC-L and I would like you to post the following >letter from me on the BOC-L to clear up some of this misunderstanding. Thanks for taking the time to write this, Jim. I'm not so sure there was a 'misunderstanding' as much as a 'lack of understanding.' As I was thinking/requesting, all anyone needed/wanted was a bit of background info about how/why/when these recordings were being offered in the marketplace. And now we know. Thanks very much. In fact, I'd already sent in my order for all three before I read this, so I had already come to the conclusion (with some add'l info from a few other boc-l folks privately) that everything was cool about them and that I'd like to have them. >I am starting to arrange a fall tour (probably October) featuring Harvey >Bainbridge (with an all new show) and Mr. Quimby's Beard. I saw them >live and THEY ARE KILLER!!! A phenomenal show. This IS the band we have >been waiting for! We will probably be booking shows in different cities >with Nucleon, Quarkspace, Skye Klad and any others who are interested. >Stange Trips will also be doing a large indoor show in Cleveland with >these bands at that time in place of the Strange Daze Festival. We have >heard from a lot of people who have wanted us to do an indoor show for >quite a while because they weren't really campers. With the cost of the >campground eating up a large chunk of our money it only makes sense to >try it out. This is all great news! As you (and a few other boc-l folks) know, the Quarkspace indoor thingy turned out really well (musically-speaking). Perhaps in Cleveland the turnout will be better. Let me be the first to encourage all you fine folks to travel *within* the North American continent, rather than continue flying back and fourth across the ocean, spreading viruses with your shoes all the while. :) Grakkl (FAA) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 10 14:34:11 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:34:11 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF:Motorhead Message-ID: How kind - always here to help.....anyway....for once we need assistance. ANYONE OUT THERE A MOTORHEAD EXPERT??? We have had this Motorhead CD in today just called Motorhead. It's on the Laserlight label and only retails for ?4.99, yet it features studio versions of Bomber, Overkill, Ace Of Spades, , Iron Fist, the Headgirl single Please Don't Touch, We are the road crew, Jailbait, more studio tracks and theree live tracks. It sounds great and at first we thought it was the original Bronze recordings before they were remastered, but then we listened closer and we will swear that the versions here of the big hits are not the same as the single or album versions - Bomber and Overkill seem to have more of a slightly live vocal, like a TV or radio broadcast or something. So, has anyone out there bought a copy who is more of an expert than we are at CD Services, and can tell us the real origin of these - we may be just imagining things but we ain't got any originals to compare them with. Or does any expert fancy buying a copy to check it out? Anyone who can help, let me know, Andy Garibaldi www.andygee.dial.pipex.com andygee at dial.pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: Re: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com > SGR exists and is superb. I got my copy from that nice Mr Garibaldi at CD > Services. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 10 14:39:26 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:39:26 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com Message-ID: ST 37 next one in August, the sci-fi double supposedly September, the Simon House is out (and we've already sold out twice with more on the way but ltd vinyl in stock now) and the High Tide old and new tracks album should be here this week. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:37 PM Subject: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com > P.S. The newest Expose magazine has an add for the Black Widow label that > lists two new titles by ST 37 on the way out (!), and two by Simon House > (one the long-awaited Spiral Galaxy Revisited). I also wonder about the > double sci-fi flick 'tribute' - that should appear within the next decade I > imagine. The artwork for Simon's SGR was shown, suggesting this one may > actually exist...who carries it? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 10 14:54:26 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:54:26 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com Message-ID: always happy to send Simon House worldwide if anyone wants - I'll be glad when our website is fibnally up and running and then you all won't need to hunt around for these things!!!!! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tigger" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 2:18 AM Subject: Re: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com two by Simon House > >(one the long-awaited Spiral Galaxy Revisited). I also From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 10 14:51:36 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:51:36 +0100 Subject: FW: HELLO STEVE!... Message-ID: I believe that we ARE supporting and helping and can only endorse what Jim is doing - if the quality is good (it is), AND the musicians are OK with what is going down, then that's the bottom line, ('coz Andy G sez so!!!) and I hope we are providing a service to those that want the music as well as helping the whole Strange Daze thing in our own small way, altho, Jim, I hope we aren't being seen by the customers as 'sponsors of JL trips to England' on a regular basis! But, seriously, they are great CD's but I figure anyone who wants them better move fast because they won't make the new CD Services catalogue next wek at this rate - I thought there were more than 40 of the FF and AL, so gor about 17 and 11 left respectively right now. Up to you. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Lindas" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 3:20 PM Subject: FW: HELLO STEVE!... > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Finity [mailto:jmfinity at ameritech.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 12:16 AM > To: Stephen Lindas > Subject: HELLO STEVE!... > > > Hello Steve! > Just letting you know that I am back from England. I had a good time and > it was quite fruitful. > I saw the postings on BOC-L and I would like you to post the following > letter from me on the BOC-L to clear up some of this misunderstanding. > Thanks. > Jim > > ********** > > Jim Lascko From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 10 14:51:53 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:51:53 EDT Subject: B.S.E. In-Reply-To: <00a201c0c1ef$ca4c0ca0$3718bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Is anyone still looking for a copy of Black Sun Ensemble? I got one, but, sadly, find it unlistenable. Any reasonable trade considered... theo And I was thinkin' how the world should've cried On the day Jack Kirby died. I wonder if I'm ill. --D. Wyndorf From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 10 16:14:18 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (The Grid) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:14:18 -0600 Subject: FW: ANDY ANDY WAIT!!!(off) In-Reply-To: <00a301c0c1ef$cbab0060$3718bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: YOU CONVICED ME!!! Pick me out the set of JIMFINITYS MINTEST BOOKLETS, and charge 'em up!!!!! (I want the CD's TOO!!) and for the record,,,,I emailed Keith privately that you were to blame for sneaking the Simon House CD's into the States...... I am not that much of an ass........ I will tell Jim I got mine re-imported....... cheers...and listhawks...forgive this...I want Andy to SEEEEEEE IT!!!!! Mike Coleman From novadrive at HOME.COM Tue Apr 10 15:17:03 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:17:03 -0700 Subject: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com In-Reply-To: <00a201c0c1ef$ca4c0ca0$3718bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: ...And what of Alan Davey's 'The Final Call'??? KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:39 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com ST 37 next one in August, the sci-fi double supposedly September, the Simon House is out (and we've already sold out twice with more on the way but ltd vinyl in stock now) and the High Tide old and new tracks album should be here this week. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:37 PM Subject: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com > P.S. The newest Expose magazine has an add for the Black Widow label that > lists two new titles by ST 37 on the way out (!), and two by Simon House > (one the long-awaited Spiral Galaxy Revisited). I also wonder about the > double sci-fi flick 'tribute' - that should appear within the next decade I > imagine. The artwork for Simon's SGR was shown, suggesting this one may > actually exist...who carries it? From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Apr 10 15:25:16 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:25:16 -0400 Subject: Lucky Lief Message-ID: OMG I just heard for the first time the cut "The lay of the surfers". Just too funny. Love the Beach Boys' send up. BAA BAA BARBARIANS. Roberto the magnificant.... we miss you!!!!!!!!!!!! -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "Some men see things as they are and say 'Why?' I dream things that never were and say 'Why not?'" --Robert Kennedy From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Apr 10 16:06:54 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:36:54 +0930 Subject: Alien Dreams (off subject) - but it is space rock related Message-ID: Hi Good People Just saying Hi and letting you all know that MY studio project ((ALIEN DREAM)) which I dreamt up about the end of 1994 - early 1995 is being promoted by none other than the infamous Andygee at CD services. http://www.cd-services.com andygee at dial.pipex.com ** For those interested...... Why did it take so long to complete you ask?? Well by mid 1994 I had gone near stone broke completeing a diploma of Audio Enginerring at our local SAE (School Of Audio Engineering) and just didn't have the equipment or the money to fund the project. I managed to score some work mixing at a local studio and after mixing sessions was able to get on the studios Korg wavesattion and Ensoniq ((something or other)) I had a reel of 1/2 inch ampex left over from the SAE days and began to record some sounds - which are now on my new CD those were: Fire Dance & Rain Chant. ((If you know the Wavestation you may recognise one of the synths sounds on the recording has the same name as the song title??)) Anyway the studio was later sold after the studio owners passed away (dear friends sadly missed still) That was about 95 - 96 So a few years rolled by and in the mean time ((1999)) I slowly aquired the equipment It was really thanks to the Australian Army that I have the digital equipment I now own I spent five weeks at the 1-RTB at Kapooka but was discharged due to injuries just before march out Oh well I make better love than war anyway!!! 8>) Anyway I saved the money (TAx Free) and bought some digital equipment with it And have been getting it on ever since - fun fun fun..... There it is Check it out if you care to - I think its pretty darn cool myself - tho I am rather biased! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From swann at CUGC.ORG Tue Apr 10 16:49:39 2001 From: swann at CUGC.ORG (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:49:39 -0400 Subject: Buck and Lucky Leif In-Reply-To: <3AD35E1C.2080603@nycap.rr.com>; from Michael S. Habiby on Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 03:25:16PM -0400 Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 03:25:16PM -0400, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > OMG > > I just heard for the first time the cut "The lay of the surfers". Just > too funny. Love the Beach Boys' send up. > > BAA BAA BARBARIANS. > > Roberto the magnificant.... we miss you!!!!!!!!!!!! Actually, I keep thinking that would be an awesome tune for Buck Dharma to cover - since he's so into surf music, and that's the surf music tune to beat all. ;) (Not to mention that Buck would *really* improve the guitar break). ;-) Steve From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Apr 10 15:55:02 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:55:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Interview tapes Message-ID: Hi, In all my time on BOC-L I don't recall anyone ever discussing HW audio interviews (radio or otherwise). Does anyone else collect these? At the last count I think I had 8 C90's worth. If anyone cares to list and/or swap what they've got then please let me know what you've got. Cheers, Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Tue Apr 10 16:58:47 2001 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:58:47 -0600 Subject: Lucky Lief Message-ID: I cannot get enough of this and "Captain Lockheed" :) I find both extremely enjoyable. Pam "Michael S. Habiby" wrote: > OMG > > I just heard for the first time the cut "The lay of the surfers". Just > too funny. Love the Beach Boys' send up. > > BAA BAA BARBARIANS. > > Roberto the magnificant.... we miss you!!!!!!!!!!!! > > -- > ____________ > Mike Habiby > AIM: MSHabiby > MSN: MikeH12182 > www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 > corwyn at nycap.rr.com > _____________ > > "Some men see things as they are and say 'Why?' I dream things that never were and say 'Why not?'" --Robert Kennedy -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Uh oh, you just set me off ... ;^) ... On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:49:39 -0400, Stephen Swann wrote: >On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 03:25:16PM -0400, Michael S. Habiby wrote: >> I just heard for the first time the cut "The lay of the surfers". Just >> too funny. Love the Beach Boys' send up. And appropriate, since the Beach Boys were a band who had quite a bit of (mostly unacknowledged) influence on spacerock. >Actually, I keep thinking that would be an awesome tune for >Buck Dharma to cover - since he's so into surf music, and >that's the surf music tune to beat all. ;) Except for the fact that ... THE BEACH BOYS DID NOT PLAY SURF MUSIC!! (Well, that's not entirely true, since they covered "Pipeline" and "Let's Go Tripping" and a couple other surf instrumentals). "Surfin' USA" is no more surf music than, say, Billy Lee Riley's "Flying Saucer Rock and Roll" is spacerock. A pop/rock song about surfing isn't surf music, and a pop/rock song about space aliens isn't spacerock. (And, ironically, the BEST Beach Boys song that has the word "surf" in the title has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with surfing.) Dick Dale, the Ventures, the Surfaris, the Chantays, and countless other instrumental bands played surf music. There's one person who (sometimes?) lurks on this list (hi Stretch!) who could tell you a WHOLE LOT more about that than I could. >(Not to mention that Buck would *really* improve the >guitar break). ;-) Improve on a Paul Rudolph break? Impossible (well, OK, I'll grant you that one ... as long as he doesn't attempt "Uncle Harry's Last Freakout")! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Tue Apr 10 17:27:54 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:27:54 -0500 Subject: HW: Interview tapes Message-ID: Well I certainly wouldn't mind getting my hands on those interviews... I have a couple myself, on my list... http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac/tapes.html John Majka jmajka2 at home.com Hi, In all my time on BOC-L I don't recall anyone ever discussing HW audio interviews (radio or otherwise). Does anyone else collect these? At the last count I think I had 8 C90's worth. If anyone cares to list and/or swap what they've got then please let me know what you've got. Cheers, Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM Tue Apr 10 19:45:22 2001 From: rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM (RPManny) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:45:22 -0400 Subject: BOC: Album news from Melne Message-ID: This is gonna be a great year. We just have to survive the taxman. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:41 AM Subject: Re: BOC: Album news from Melne > Mike Habiby wrote: > > "At last, the title for the new album has been announced. The band did not > > choose any of the fan suggestions, but rather drew from the earliest days of > > before-they-were-BOC and chose: > > CURSE OF THE HIDDEN MIRROR" > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 10 20:27:58 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:27:58 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com Message-ID: OK Keith - will do as regards Magma, there is the 2000 triple and the '76 triple and both are great and both are available so just let me know if and when you need them, OK. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 4:18 PM Subject: Re: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com > Hi again... > Thanks for the responses about the House CD. AndyGee, I'd like one put into > my shopping cart, if you've got it. > > Um...I was wrong about the ST37 issue...they have one CD coming out on Black > Widow (forgotten the title)...the other one is the self-released CD-R (?) > that Doug P. reviewed in the new issue of AI now online. Just to clarify... > > Grakkl (FAA) > > P.S. Note to Andy...there are two different Magma 3CD sets just out, aren't > there? Well, I was thinking of the 2000 live recording, though I see the > old one ('76) has a live version of De Futura which almost certainly makes > this a must have also. Let me know if you have either/both. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 10 20:29:38 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:29:38 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com Message-ID: sheesh - long story but out of my hands - expect it early May - but don't ask why the long story. Slightly unhappy, Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Sommers" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:17 PM Subject: Re: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com > ...And what of Alan Davey's 'The Final Call'??? > > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of ANDREW GARIBALDI > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:39 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com > > > ST 37 next one in August, the sci-fi double supposedly September, the Simon > House is out (and we've already sold out twice with more on the way but ltd > vinyl in stock now) and the High Tide old and new tracks album should be > here this week. > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "K Henderson" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:37 PM > Subject: HW: OFF: Seen at lasercd.com > > > > P.S. The newest Expose magazine has an add for the Black Widow label that > > lists two new titles by ST 37 on the way out (!), and two by Simon House > > (one the long-awaited Spiral Galaxy Revisited). I also wonder about the > > double sci-fi flick 'tribute' - that should appear within the next decade > I > > imagine. The artwork for Simon's SGR was shown, suggesting this one may > > actually exist...who carries it? From moonglum at ECLIPSE.NET Wed Apr 11 06:02:32 2001 From: moonglum at ECLIPSE.NET (Project2501) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 06:02:32 -0400 Subject: New Trading mail list Message-ID: Since we were discussing trading of live recordings on the list a short time ago, I figured I'd de-lurk to mention that I've started a group for just that purpose. It's based on progressive music in general, which in my mind includes space groups as well. If you're interested, please take a look at the site which follows: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/prog_cdr Thanks a lot for allowing me to make this totally off topic post :-) Bill 'I am a living thinking entity that was created in the sea of information.' From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Apr 11 08:39:47 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:39:47 EDT Subject: OFF:Napster.....Death Throes..... Message-ID: Judge Mulls Pulling Napster's Plug By DAVID KRAVETS .c The Associated Press SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A federal judge in charge of Napster Inc.'s fate said she may put an end to the popular online song-swapping service because of its failure to do a better job of blocking copyright works. ``You created this monster, you fix it,'' U.S. District Judge Marilyn Hall Patel said in a terse tone from the bench Tuesday. ``Maybe they should take another look at that,'' she said. But Patel, who called Napster's efforts ``disgraceful,'' didn't act on her words. She said a court-appointed expert will review claims by the recording industry that Napster is failing to remove copyright material from its service used by some 70 million people. Meanwhile, the Financial Times reported Wednesday that the company's biggest supporter in Germany was taking steps to distance itself from the service. Bertelsmann AG, one of Napster's investors that dropped out of the recording industry's copyright infringement suit, had planned to help Napster switch to a subscription-based model. But the German media powerhouse is now talking with other media groups about forming wider alliances with Napster, the newspaper said. But Bertelsmann spokesman Frank Sarfeld on Wednesday said the German company is still committed to Napster. ``We'll do whatever we can to make Napster successful,'' he told The Associated Press. Recording Industry Association of America lawyer Carey Ramos said that of 5,000 songs the record labels on asked to be removed last month, 84 percent of them are still being downloaded free of charge via Napster. ``Whatever they're doing, it ain't working,'' he said. Napster attorney Robert Silver told Patel removing the copyright material is easier said than done. Silver said ``all you need is one file to get through'' the song-swapping system's filters, which are designed to remove copyright material, and the protected songs will reappear on the site's search index. Patel did not set a new hearing date, but ordered technology expert A.J. Nichols to study the issue and see if there is any existing technology available to help Napster abide by the court order to remove the songs. In February, a federal appeals court in San Francisco said the judge's order for Napster to remove copyright works shifted too much of a burden on the Internet site. The appeals panel said the recording industry must first notify Napster of which works should be removed. The reason the whole site has not been shut down is because doing so could violate the rights of artists on the site who have given Napster permission to use them. Redwood City-based Napster has hired 15 more people to weed out unauthorized music, and has partnered with Gracenote, a company that tracks multiple spellings of popular song titles. Its new policy is to kick off users who continue trading music by modifying the file names of songs. In total, Napster says it has excluded about 311,000 unique artist-song title pairs as well as 1.7 million file names corresponding to those artist-title pairs from its index. Usage has dropped considerably since it began blocking songs last month, Napster said. On the net: http://www.napster.com http://www.riaa.org AP-NY-04-11-01 0728EDT From nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM Wed Apr 11 09:34:49 2001 From: nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM (Joseph Sardo) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 06:34:49 -0700 Subject: BOC: Album news from Melne In-Reply-To: <001501c0c218$4fa08f20$3d062526@newmicronpc> Message-ID: a lot could be said of that title. Joe : Album news from Melne > > > "At last, the title for the new album has been > announced. The band did not > > > choose any of the fan suggestions, but rather > drew from the earliest > days of > > > before-they-were-BOC and chose: > > > CURSE OF THE HIDDEN MIRROR" > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Apr 11 10:31:00 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 10:31:00 -0400 Subject: BOC: Remasters Released Soon Message-ID: According to http://www.blueoystercult.com/ the first four remasters will be released May 1. Woo-Hoo! I especially can't wait to hear the original FoUO. Brian P.S. Did anyone else see Black Sabbath perform on that MTV skate/surf/ski/cycle/music awards show last night? Maybe it's just because "Paranoid" isn't my fave Sabath tune, but the performance seemed "mailed-in." Still, it was great to see Ozzy with the band. -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Apr 11 11:11:24 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 10:11:24 -0500 Subject: address Message-ID: HI THERE, To all concerned, My email address has changed to lindas at marketday.com. CHEERS STEPHE From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Wed Apr 11 13:02:20 2001 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:02:20 +0200 Subject: Lucky Leif In-Reply-To: <3AD37407.5945CC64@TransWestTaxi.com> Message-ID: Hi, >I cannot get enough of this and "Captain Lockheed" :) I find both >extremely enjoyable. Yup. Not to mention his other solo albums... BTW, you can download a whole Bob C. gig (from his last tour in Nov 1986) on Steve Pond's excellent I.C.U. site (http://www.doremi.co.uk/icu/). (c)IAO D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de denis at d-rider.de From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Wed Apr 11 13:13:39 2001 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:13:39 +0100 Subject: BOC: Joe Dirt soundtrack In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 08 Apr 2001 00:58:13 EDT." Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: > Does anyone remember Alan Robson of Radio Metro in Newcastle? He used > to DJ a heavy metal show called the "Hot 'n' Heavy Express," and used to > have a segment on it called the "mega mix" where he'd play a mix of > songs by the same band for about half an hour straight as a sampler/ > retrospective. He did a Hawkwind mega mix once, and segued the tracks > quicker than normal. Despite that, he still only managed to cover the > gist of their official recorded output. Alan Robson - aka the Flashing Blade aka The Night Owl. Yeah, he was one of the DJs that kept me sane during my University tour of duty Up North back around '88-91 ;-) By the time I was tuning in we was doing more of the late night talk radio shows but it was still entertaining and he threw in some solid rock tracks pretty regularly from the likes of Magnum etc. > (He even did a Venom mega mix once!:) > > Is he still on the air, I wonder? I believe he went off and does TV stuff now. Tim obCD: Icebreaker International: _Trein Maersk_ From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Apr 11 15:45:40 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:45:40 -0400 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif In-Reply-To: <200104102123.RAA04223@listserv.spc.edu>; from ceres@SIRIUS.COM on Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:23:40PM -0400 Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:23:40PM -0400, Douglas Pearson wrote: > [...] the Beach Boys were a band who had quite a bit of > (mostly unacknowledged) influence on spacerock. Really? How so? I'm trying to think of examples, but the only thing I can come up with is the theremin in Good Vibrations, and even there it was put to a most non-spacy use. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Apr 11 15:51:42 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:51:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif Message-ID: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:23:40PM -0400, Douglas Pearson wrote: > >> [...] the Beach Boys were a band who had quite a bit of >> (mostly unacknowledged) influence on spacerock. > > Eric Siegerman wrote: > Really? How so? I'm trying to think of examples, but the only > thing I can come up with is the theremin in Good Vibrations, and > even there it was put to a most non-spacy use. > > -- Maybe Pet Sounds? Very avant Guard at the time. -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "Some men see things as they are and say 'Why?' I dream things that never were and say 'Why not?'" --Robert Kennedy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Apr 11 16:05:41 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:05:41 EDT Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif In-Reply-To: <3AD4B5CE.3030908@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: On 11 Apr 2001, at 15:51, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:23:40PM -0400, Douglas Pearson wrote: > > > >> [...] the Beach Boys were a band who had quite a bit of > >> (mostly unacknowledged) influence on spacerock. > > > > Eric Siegerman wrote: > > Really? How so? I'm trying to think of examples, but the only > > thing I can come up with is the theremin in Good Vibrations, and > > even there it was put to a most non-spacy use. > > > > -- > > Maybe Pet Sounds? Very avant Guard at the time. > Yep...Also, BBs use of keyboards, complex vocal harmonies. Good Vibrations, for ill or good, was a big influence on a lot of people, c.f. Todd Rundrgren, an arguable space-rocker. GV almost rates as a suite--hell, no almost about it. It's no secret that Pete Townshend was abig BBs fan, and it's possible that GV helped nudge him toward stuff like A Quick One, and later Tommy and Quadrophenia... theo From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 11 16:26:42 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:26:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:51:42 -0400, Michael S. Habiby wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:23:40PM -0400, Douglas Pearson wrote: >> >>> [...] the Beach Boys were a band who had quite a bit of >>> (mostly unacknowledged) influence on spacerock. >> >> Eric Siegerman wrote: >> Really? How so? For starters, read the liner notes to the first Faust album ("We Like Beach Boys"), and interviews with Kraftwerk where they discuss "Autobahn" (an attempt to capture the *feel* of the German highway system in the same way the Beach Boys captured the feel of California beaches and highways and high schools). Those are the two main "acknowledged" bits I can think of ... >> I'm trying to think of examples, but the only >> thing I can come up with is the theremin in Good Vibrations, and >> even there it was put to a most non-spacy use. >> >Maybe Pet Sounds? Very avant Guard at the time. Actually, 'Pet Sounds' is one of the most backwards-looking Beach Boys albums - it's a "mature" jazzy pop sound that (to me) is closer to the likes of Sinatra/(Bing) Crosby than anything rock&roll or avant-garde. It does include a brief, pre-"Good Vibrations" Theremin solo (near the end of "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times"), but in that case it's almost simulating an operatic voice (and the instrument used on the Beach Boys songs is technically not a Theremin, but it serves the exact same purpose, so that's just splitting hairs). However, the unreleased follow-up to 'Pet Sounds', 'SMiLE', would have been a *very* avant-garde album, with post-Stravinsky atonal strings, electronic oscillators, extreme tape delay, free-form spoken/voiced segments, experimentation with taped sound effects and unorthodox uses of orchestral instruments, etc. (many of these segments were deemed "too weird for release", but are now pretty readily available on bootleg). Many parts of it could be considered similar to the early Mothers of Invention albums. As for other examples of the Beach Boys' "influence" on spacerock, listen to: "409" for the Chuck Berry riff + swoosh sounds (in this case, recordings of actual automobile sounds, since synthesizers hadn't been invented yet!) formula that's used on "Silver Machine" (and several other HW singles); other BB songs using a similar formula include some very Nik-like honking saxophone, too! "Do It Again" for its processed drum intro "Diamond Head" for its reverb and sound-effect drenched atmospheric soundscape "Feel Flows" for its very psychedelic, Floydian, guitar solo / jam break There's also some very tasty (but subtler than "real" spacerock, of course) modular Moog synthesizer work on the (excellent) 'Sunflower' and 'Surf's Up' albums. (And I didn't even get to the 'Beach Boys Love You' album that's nearly as individually-disturbed as Syd Barrett's solo albums.) I've made a "Beach Boys Space Medley" track that incorporates most of the stuff I mention here, so that those who hear it can decide for themselves (and, if necessary, tell me that I'm FULL OF IT!), -Doug ceres at sirius.com From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Apr 11 16:44:51 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:44:51 -0400 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif Message-ID: Douglas Pearson wrote: > > > However, the unreleased follow-up to 'Pet Sounds', 'SMiLE', would have been > a *very* avant-garde album, with post-Stravinsky atonal strings, electronic > oscillators, extreme tape delay, free-form spoken/voiced segments, > experimentation with taped sound effects and unorthodox uses of orchestral > instruments, etc. (many of these segments were deemed "too weird for > release", but are now pretty readily available on bootleg). Many parts of > it could be considered similar to the early Mothers of Invention albums. I had no idea that SMiLe was "unreleased" . In HS in the 70's I had Pet Sounds B/W Smile as a double album. Wish I had held on to that!!! Nice analysis by the way Doug. Thanks Mike -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "Some men see things as they are and say 'Why?' I dream things that never were and say 'Why not?'" --Robert Kennedy From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 11 17:03:58 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:03:58 -0400 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:44:51 -0400, Michael S. Habiby wrote: >Douglas Pearson wrote: >> However, the unreleased follow-up to 'Pet Sounds', 'SMiLE', >> would have been a *very* avant-garde album ... > >I had no idea that SMiLe was "unreleased" . In HS in the 70's I had Pet >Sounds B/W Smile as a double album. The album that came out in place of 'SMiLE' was called 'Smiley Smile', which is probably what you had (although I thought the double-LP twofer combined it with uh ... either '20/20' or 'Friends', I forget now ... or perhaps you had a European version). 'Smiley' has re-recordings or re- mixes of some of the songs that would have been on 'SMiLE', but the 'Smiley' versions are extremely "stripped-down" (although still pretty weird) compared to the original 'SMiLE' versions. About half the songs from 'SMiLE' (although again, not much of the truly far-out stuff) eventually trickled out on later BB albums when Brian Wilson was incapacitated (in bed for a couple years ... a classic case of the reality being too weird to have been made up) and the rest of the band was unable to come up with enough quality material. >Wish I had held on to that!!! It's very good music, even if not actual "unreleased" material. >Nice analysis by the way Doug. Thanks Thank you too, but all it goes to show is that with enough facts (I didn't make any of this up! trust me ... and I didn't even mention the recordings of Paul McCartney crunching on vegetables!), you can support just about any thesis you want ... -Doug (who will talk about the BB's for hours if you let him) ceres at sirius.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Apr 11 17:08:56 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:08:56 EDT Subject: OFF: BBs In-Reply-To: <200104112103.RAA08604@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 11 Apr 2001, at 17:03, Douglas Pearson wrote: > -Doug (who will talk about the BB's for hours if you let him) > ceres at sirius.com Well, I for one would dig an in-depth anqalysis of Good Vibrations. Post it private if you think the list will object... theo From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Apr 11 17:17:44 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:17:44 -0400 Subject: OFF: BBs In-Reply-To: <3AD48FA6.10564.21BC2D2@localhost>; from tojackso@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 05:08:56PM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 05:08:56PM -0400, Ted Jackson wrote: > Well, I for one would dig an in-depth anqalysis of Good Vibrations. > Post it private if you think the list will object... I wanna see it too :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Apr 11 17:26:52 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:26:52 -0400 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif In-Reply-To: <200104112026.QAA08359@listserv.spc.edu>; from ceres@SIRIUS.COM on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 04:26:42PM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 04:26:42PM -0400, Douglas Pearson wrote: > It > does include a brief, pre-"Good Vibrations" Theremin solo (near the end > of "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times"), but in that case it's almost > simulating an operatic voice In GV it's singing girls-in-sequinny-dresses backup... > (and the instrument used on the Beach Boys > songs is technically not a Theremin, but it serves the exact same purpose, > so that's just splitting hairs). Split away. What was it, and what's the difference between them? > However, the unreleased follow-up to 'Pet Sounds', 'SMiLE', would have been > a *very* avant-garde album Hmmm. If it's unreleased, how could it have been influential? Or were they giving out copies to their friends? Or did the influence have to wait for the watered-down Smiley Smile version? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 11 18:51:00 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:51:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:26:52 -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: >On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 04:26:42PM -0400, Douglas Pearson wrote: >> Theremin solo (near the end of "I Just Wasn't Made For These >> Times") ... almost simulating an operatic voice > >In GV it's singing girls-in-sequinny-dresses backup... Hahaha! I can easily picture that one! >> (and the instrument used on the Beach Boys >> songs is technically not a Theremin, but it serves the exact same >> purpose, so that's just splitting hairs). > >Split away. What was it, and what's the difference between them? It's an "electro-Theremin", or "Tannerin", designed by one Paul Tanner (who, I believe, actually played it on the BB records). There's tons of information here: http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/4611/PTE-TPage.html >From the photograph on that site, you can see that it's played with a little stylus (sort of like a Stylophone) along a track, wheras a true Theremin is played by waving your hands in the air. Obviously, the Tannerin makes it much easier for an untrained musician to play notes in tune, since they can be marked along the track the stylus runs over - you can't mark notes in the middle of thin air (well, I'm sure someone on this list could find a way)! There's a pretty famous video of "Good Vibrations" (with the band dressed in white suits) that shows (singer) Mike Love playing the Tannerin, although until the instrument was identified as such, I had always assumed it was a Moog Ribbon Controller in the video. >> However, the unreleased follow-up to 'Pet Sounds', 'SMiLE', would have >> been a *very* avant-garde album > >Hmmm. If it's unreleased, how could it have been influential? I don't believe I ever referred to it as "influential", but only as *very* avant-garde (and I gave other examples of BB spacerock influences). Don't forget that "influence" and "range of distribution" are two very unrelated things (think: Velvet Underground). However, 'SMiLE' certainly has been *legendary*. Remember, this album was to be the follow-up to one of the biggest hit singles EVER ("Good Vibrations"), so its' progress was reported on extensively by the music press at the time (unfortunately, this led to an over-hyping that probably contributed to Brian Wilson's nervous breakdown and inability to complete the album - but then again, seeing 'Seconds' also contributed to his nervous breakdown). Descriptions of parts of the album were published, and people certainly knew *of* the album even if they hadn't heard it - that in itself can be influential. >Or were they giving out copies to their friends? Yes, a number of people had acetates (this being the pre-cassette era) of rough mixes. And Brian Wilson had a lot of interesting and influential friends at the time. But those never really made it out of very exclusive fan/collector circles for many years. >Or did the >influence have to wait for the watered-down Smiley Smile version? It had to wait until the late 80's, when the bootlegs started coming out in full force, and the Beach Boys 5-CD box set included about 30 minutes of unreleased 'SMiLE' material. 'Smiley Smile' doesn't begin to hint at what 'SMiLE' might/could have been. Nowadays, almost every piece of tape that was EVER recorded for 'SMiLE' is available on bootleg (although collector/fanatics can also point out sessions that were documented in studio logs, for which tapes are missing). There are AT LEAST 8 CD's worth of 'SMiLE' sessions (not including "Good Vibrations", which would have been on the album, and took hundreds of hours of session time to complete) on bootleg. There are websites where rabid fans debate the album sequence (which was never finalized), final mixes/edits of the songs ("Heroes and Villains", the follow-up single to "Good Vibrations", had *dozens* of sections, some only a few seconds long, recorded for it, only a fraction of which were used in the two existing "final" mixes), the album concept (or concepts), whether or not the pieces would segue together (there are many "sections" that sound like they could connect two -or more- of the songs on the album, and there are several recurring musical themes throughout, too), whether or not it would have been "bigger" or "better" than 'Sgt. Pepper' (puh-leeeze!), whether or not Brian Wilson was drinking Egg Nog or Orange Juice at the horns tracking session on October 17, 1966 ETCETERA AD NAUSEUM (you get the idea!). And, On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:17:44 -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: >On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 05:08:56PM -0400, Ted Jackson wrote: >> Well, I for one would dig an in-depth anqalysis of Good Vibrations. >> Post it private if you think the list will object... > >I wanna see it too :-) There's not much to it. It's an EXTREMELY well-crafted (possibly the best- crafted ever) pop single about meeting a girl who makes you feel groovy. That's all; and something most of us (OK, or a guy who makes you feel groovy) have probably experienced. There's more to analyze in some of Brian Wilson's "simpler" songs like "In My Room" or "Warmth of the Sun" or "Don't Worry Baby". The list of all the instruments used for the song is quite impressive, however (but not nearly as impressive as Wilson's TOTALLY-FREAKED-OUT description of the song in the fantastic documentary, 'Theremin An Electronic Odyssey'). Now, in-depth analyses of the 'SMiLE' tracks that Wilson's collaborator Van Dyke Parks wrote the lyrics for ("Heroes and Villains" and "Surf's Up", in particular) ... well, that could take all week, and would have to encompass a thorough American History lesson. -Doug ceres at sirius.com recommended discography: 'Sunflower' / 'Surf's Up' 2-fer CD 'Smiley Smile' / 'Wild Honey' 2-fer CD (*) 'Friends' / '20/20' 2-fer CD (*) 'Good Vibrations' 5-CD box set (*) = currently out-of-print in the USA (Canadian imports are available), but scheduled to be reissued later this year; both the 'Smiley' CD and the box set contain 'SMiLE' outtakes. From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Apr 11 19:10:20 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:10:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif In-Reply-To: <200104112026.QAA08359@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200104112026.QAA08359 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:51:42 -0400, Michael S. Habiby > wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:23:40PM -0400, Douglas Pearson wrote: >>> >>>> [...] the Beach Boys were a band who had quite a bit of >>>> (mostly unacknowledged) influence on spacerock. >>> >>> Eric Siegerman wrote: >>> Really? How so? > >For starters, read the liner notes to the first Faust album ("We Like Beach >Boys"), and interviews with Kraftwerk where they discuss "Autobahn" (an >attempt to capture the *feel* of the German highway system in the same way >the Beach Boys captured the feel of California beaches and highways and >high schools). Those are the two main "acknowledged" bits I can think >of ... David Thomas of Pere Ubu seems to have a fascination with the Beach Boys too... references to the BBs abound in his recent work. Any HW fans online now, come on over to the irc channel, I'll be hanging around online for a bit while I type some work up, be nice to chat while I do it... -- Nick Medford From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Apr 11 19:21:52 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:21:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif In-Reply-To: <200104112251.SAA09112@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200104112251.SAA09112 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >>From the photograph on that site, you can see that it's played with a >little stylus (sort of like a Stylophone) along a track, wheras a true >Theremin is played by waving your hands in the air. Obviously, the >Tannerin makes it much easier for an untrained musician to play notes in >tune, since they can be marked along the track the stylus runs over - you >can't mark notes in the middle of thin air (well, I'm sure someone on this >list could find a way)! It's already been done to control a synthesizer - Jean Michel Jarres 'laser harp' - can't think of any reason why something like that couldn't be adapted for a theremin. -- David Blair From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 11 19:52:25 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:52:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:21:52 +0100, Tigger wrote: >In article <200104112251.SAA09112 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson > writes >>... Obviously, the >>Tannerin makes it much easier for an untrained musician to play notes in >>tune, since they can be marked along the track the stylus runs over - you >>can't mark notes in the middle of thin air (well, I'm sure someone on this >>list could find a way)! > >It's already been done to control a synthesizer - Jean Michel Jarres >'laser harp' - can't think of any reason why something like that >couldn't be adapted for a theremin. You're correct that this would be a method to "mark notes in air" (if I understand the 'laser harp' correctly), but the problem is that the notes become *discrete* (aka "quantized" aka "stepped"), so that you lose the characteristic slide between notes that distinguishes the Theremin (there are ways to restore this, but they involve extensive realtime digital processing [obviously not possible on an analog Theremin], a loss of the player's expressiveness by introduction of "lag" time, or a combination of the two). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Apr 11 20:00:55 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:00:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif In-Reply-To: <200104112352.TAA09530@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200104112352.TAA09530 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:21:52 +0100, Tigger >wrote: >>In article <200104112251.SAA09112 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson >> writes >>>... Obviously, the >>>Tannerin makes it much easier for an untrained musician to play notes in >>>tune, since they can be marked along the track the stylus runs over - you >>>can't mark notes in the middle of thin air (well, I'm sure someone on this >>>list could find a way)! >> >>It's already been done to control a synthesizer - Jean Michel Jarres >>'laser harp' - can't think of any reason why something like that >>couldn't be adapted for a theremin. > >You're correct that this would be a method to "mark notes in air" (if I >understand the 'laser harp' correctly), but the problem is that the notes >become *discrete* (aka "quantized" aka "stepped"), so that you lose the >characteristic slide between notes that distinguishes the Theremin (there >are ways to restore this, but they involve extensive realtime digital >processing [obviously not possible on an analog Theremin], a loss of the >player's expressiveness by introduction of "lag" time, or a combination of >the two). Sorry, I didn't explain it well - I didn't mean to use something like the laser harp to actually _play_ a theremin, just use it to show the player where to put his/her hands to play particular notes. Playing would be no different, the player would just have a visual tuning reference. Slides and vibrato etc would still be possible, with the bonus of being able to play melodies more accurately. -- David Blair From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 11 20:17:01 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:17:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:00:55 +0100, Tigger wrote: >In article <200104112352.TAA09530 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson > writes >>You're correct that this would be a method to "mark notes in air" (if I >>understand the 'laser harp' correctly), but the problem is that the notes >>become *discrete* (aka "quantized" aka "stepped") ... (blah blah SNIP!) > >Sorry, I didn't explain it well - I didn't mean to use something like >the laser harp to actually _play_ a theremin, just use it to show the >player where to put his/her hands to play particular notes. Playing >would be no different, the player would just have a visual tuning >reference. Slides and vibrato etc would still be possible, with the >bonus of being able to play melodies more accurately. Ah, got it now! Yes, exactly! And, to bring things somewhat (vaguely) back on topic, that seems (visually) like something that would have fit the BOC lightshow of their 70's smoke&lasers heyday perfectly (I could even imagine the synth solo on "Flaming Telepaths" being played that way, looking like the player's trapped behind laser "bars"). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 11 21:09:00 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:09:00 EDT Subject: OFF-ish: "G" for Germany, Herr Minister Message-ID: For those interested www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f104g.htm Bloody radar crew! Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Slides and vibrato etc would still be possible, with the >bonus of being able to play melodies more accurately. But the position of the whole hand relative to the Theremin is only one aspect. You can also alter the sound (or the vlume) by only changing the stances of your fingers without moving the whole hand. In such a case Jarre's lasers would be quite useless. But nevertheless the Jarre-way looks quite impressive ;-) (c)IAO D+R From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Thu Apr 12 08:05:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:05:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Opal Butterfly (Simon and Lemmy) Message-ID: Just to say that all the new Opal Butterfly material is now online, with pics and samples of a young, 17-year old, Simon King, sounding as crisp as ever 8-)) http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ and click on "Opal Butterfly" (obviously) Happy listening! Steve Litchfield From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Apr 12 08:18:22 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 08:18:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: The legacy of Yuri Gagarin Message-ID: Karen Kusic wrote: > Forty years ago on Thursday, Yuri Gagarin became the first man in space. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/sci/tech/newsid_1271000/1271844.stm > > -- > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > - Frank Zappa > > Is anyone participating in the world wide rave tonight called Yuri's night? http://www.yurisnight.net/ space.... is there.... -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "Some men see things as they are and say 'Why?' I dream things that never were and say 'Why not?'" --Robert Kennedy From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Apr 12 08:47:24 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 08:47:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Live at the Lounge Axe Message-ID: Hi all Someone had been posting a "Hawkwind Flood" to the usenet. This is good and bad cause this person is posting studio recordings which I personally think takes money out of Dave's pocket. That is the bad. HOWEVER Whomever this is has posted a great audience recording of the boys from 10/01/89 from Chicago called Live at the Lounge Act. This would be the good. I would be happy to start a "chain" or "tree" on this one if you email me privately to the email addy below. Take care and do participate. -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "Some men see things as they are and say 'Why?' I dream things that never were and say 'Why not?'" --Robert Kennedy From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Thu Apr 12 09:00:37 2001 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:00:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif In-Reply-To: <3AD4C243.8050806@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > > I had no idea that SMiLe was "unreleased" . In HS in the 70's I had Pet > Sounds B/W Smile as a double album. > > Wish I had held on to that!!! Are you sure it wasn't Smiley Smile, the album that followed Pet Sounds and was issued in place of Smile? Rob THV Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Apr 12 09:07:22 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:07:22 EDT Subject: OFF: Beach Boys Message-ID: In a message dated 4/12/01 8:58:33 AM, vincentr at COGNOS.COM writes: << I had no idea that SMiLe was "unreleased" . In HS in the 70's I had Pet > Sounds B/W Smile as a double album. > > Wish I had held on to that!!! Are you sure it wasn't Smiley Smile, the album that followed Pet Sounds and was issued in place of Smile? >> ===================== yes to the above question. "smile" was the lp brian wilson was a bit too, um, 'psychedelicized' to finish. later, some of it showed up on the 'surf's up' lp. ain't no dissin' the beach boys from this one! "<>" From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Thu Apr 12 09:16:27 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:16:27 -0400 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif Message-ID: Douglas Pearson wrote: > Now, in-depth analyses of the 'SMiLE' tracks that Wilson's collaborator Van > Dyke Parks wrote the lyrics for ("Heroes and Villains" and "Surf's Up", in > particular) ... well, that could take all week, and would have to encompass > a thorough American History lesson. For some weird Van Dyke Parks, go to the Children's section of your local video store and rent _The Brave Little Toaster_. It's a Disneyesque tale of some household objects left behind in a summer cabin who miss the child who used to use them and set off for the city where he now lives. Sit through the sappy Disneyesque song they sing on their travels. Wait until they end up in a dumpster and get rescued by the guy from the spare parts store. Then you get treated to some really macabre Parks songs: one is about what is going to happen to our heroes when they get taken apart for parts and later there's a song sung by automobiles at a junkyard as they await their turn in the compressor. Van Dyke Parks is a sick puppy. (-8 John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Apr 12 09:21:15 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:21:15 EDT Subject: OFF: Van Dyke Parks// Sam Phillips Message-ID: In a message dated 4/12/01 9:17:11 AM, mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU writes: << Van Dyke Parks is a sick puppy. (-8 >> ===== ....who did beautiful arranging on "what do i do" on the first [secular] Sam Phillips lp... "<>" From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Apr 12 10:42:35 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:42:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Humble Pie Reuinion Message-ID: The original members of Humble Pie are reuniting for the first time in a decade to pay tribute to the late Steve Marriott, who co-founded the band with Peter Frampton. The tribute concert marking the 10th anniversary of Marriott's death will be held next Friday, April 20, at London's Astoria Theatre. Also taking part -- The Who's Roger Daltrey; former Small Faces members Kenny Jones and Ian McIagan; Paul Weller; Zak Starkey; Sex Pistol's Glen Matlock; and former Ultravox frontman Midge Ure, among others. A retrospective of the band's most important and influential recordings "The Best Of Humble Pie" (A&M/UME) was recently released. A Herd/Humble Pie/Frampton Anthology is schedule to hot stores in August. In 1969, Marriott, who had left Small Faces, and Frampton, formerly of the Herd, joined with ex-Spooky Tooth bassist Greg Ridley and drummer Jerry Shirley. The band's hit singles included "Natural Born Woman" (a.k.a. "Natural Born Boogie"), "Stone Cold Fever," "Shine On" and "Rollin' Stone." Humble Pie disbanded in 1975. In the late '80s, Marriott and Frampton planned to reunite. But then Marriott was killed in a house fire on April 20, 1991. He was 44 -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "Some men see things as they are and say 'Why?' I dream things that never were and say 'Why not?'" --Robert Kennedy From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Apr 12 14:15:43 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:15:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif Message-ID: yes but didn't Bernard Szajner build the thing anyway, and use it before Jarre did (the laser harp that is)? Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Regenbrecht" To: Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 8:27 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Buck and Lucky Leif > Hi, > > >Sorry, I didn't explain it well - I didn't mean to use something like > >the laser harp to actually _play_ a theremin, just use it to show the > >player where to put his/her hands to play particular notes. Playing > >would be no different, the player would just have a visual tuning > >reference. Slides and vibrato etc would still be possible, with the > >bonus of being able to play melodies more accurately. > > But the position of the whole hand relative to the Theremin is only one > aspect. You can also alter the sound (or the vlume) by only changing the > stances of your fingers without moving the whole hand. In such a case > Jarre's lasers would be quite useless. But nevertheless the Jarre-way looks > quite impressive ;-) > > (c)IAO > > D+R From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Apr 12 14:59:25 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:59:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: Job posting (it's NOT spam, it's a spoof) Message-ID: http://www.headhunter.net/jobseeker/jobs/JobDetails.asp?did=J26K66D0YJBB4DWPWJ&zbid=1hIMLrLr39LrIZ39Lr39LxLrLxIMCt3939AILxAILxyfLrCjCj -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Apr 12 16:08:38 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:08:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Interview tapes Message-ID: Hi John, Would you mind copying, pasting and then e-mailing me your interview HW list please, as I'm not one for huge lists. Ta, Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:27 PM Subject: Re: HW: Interview tapes Well I certainly wouldn't mind getting my hands on those interviews... I have a couple myself, on my list... http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac/tapes.html John Majka jmajka2 at home.com Hi, In all my time on BOC-L I don't recall anyone ever discussing HW audio interviews (radio or otherwise). Does anyone else collect these? At the last count I think I had 8 C90's worth. If anyone cares to list and/or swap what they've got then please let me know what you've got. Cheers, Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Thu Apr 12 17:44:45 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:44:45 -0500 Subject: HW: Interview tapes Message-ID: Well if music doesn't really interest you, we can bypass the list then. Basically I have a 90-minute tape of compiled interviews circa 1977 to circa 1984 with such members as Robert Calvert, Dave Brock, Simon King, Harvey Bainbridge, Michael Moorcock. Then I have the Dave Brock interview from the Flicknife boxed set. And the 15 minute or so interview from the Westwind Tape from the 1989 USA tour... that's it as far as interviews go. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com Hi John, Would you mind copying, pasting and then e-mailing me your interview HW list please, as I'm not one for huge lists. Ta, Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:27 PM Subject: Re: HW: Interview tapes Well I certainly wouldn't mind getting my hands on those interviews... I have a couple myself, on my list... http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac/tapes.html John Majka jmajka2 at home.com Hi, In all my time on BOC-L I don't recall anyone ever discussing HW audio interviews (radio or otherwise). Does anyone else collect these? At the last count I think I had 8 C90's worth. If anyone cares to list and/or swap what they've got then please let me know what you've got. Cheers, Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Thu Apr 12 19:44:21 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 00:44:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Opal Butterfly (Simon and Lemmy) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The Simon King site gets better and better. Well done Steve! Whats the chance of seeing an up to date pic of Simon King 2001 or therabouts? mel From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Apr 13 01:06:43 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:36:43 +0930 Subject: OFF: Job posting (it's NOT spam, it's a spoof) Message-ID: > With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not > necessarily a good idea. > - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) its there landing thats a bummer From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Fri Apr 13 07:37:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:37:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Simon King Message-ID: >>The Simon King site gets better and better. Well done Steve! Whats the chance of seeing an up to date pic of Simon King 2001 or therabouts? Thanks 8-) I've asked Simon several times for an up to date picture, but nothing so far, as he'd rather be remembered for how he was etc. Fair enough, but maybe one day 8-))) Steve From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Apr 13 08:59:19 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Shimmer) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 06:59:19 -0600 Subject: HW: Simon King In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is everyone I knows favorite drummer (not excluding Richard)..... Please Not hide Simon.......... Looks will be overridden......a God....is still a God..... mdc From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Apr 13 09:00:30 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:00:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Simon King Message-ID: LoL. Yeah Simon if you're listening, send down a photo, hell, we all look rougher than we did a few years ago. (The many hours of addiction to online gaming have taken their toll....lol) Rich W. Wait for the caption competition: I'll send a photo of me in that damn silver suit from Brixton, for Michael to stick on his website, and we'll give away some unused tickets from the 25th Anniversary tour ;-), to the person who comes up with the best caption ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shimmer" To: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 1:59 PM Subject: Re: HW: Simon King > Is everyone I knows favorite drummer (not excluding Richard)..... > > Please Not hide Simon.......... > > Looks will be overridden......a God....is still a God..... > > > mdc > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Apr 13 10:14:02 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Shimmer) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:14:02 -0600 Subject: HW: Simon King-cont'd In-Reply-To: <002601c0c419$b8217200$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: And if you insist that we remember you for being THE COOLEST LOOKING drummer in the world.......... how about if we taylor to your wishes, you join a groovin' outfit, and give us far out art on the LP/CD in place of photos..... Then you can either "work up" to public appearance, or just spread the joy of your drumwave power on record alone???? I'll take a slice and steal it away in ANY FORM... Mike C From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Apr 13 14:13:11 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:13:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: New Queens of the Stone Age video Message-ID: New video from Queens of the Stone Age: Monsters in the Parasol http://realguide.real.com/RGX/RGMESG.video.def...RGX/boss.2.navisitestreaming.net/real/2/interscope/qotsa/ratedr/video/00_monstersintheparasol.ram -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Fri Apr 13 14:41:36 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:41:36 -0400 Subject: Hawkon video Message-ID: Hi, does anyone know if it is still possible to buy or get hold of the video made at the Hawkwind convention in 1984 or 85 in Manchester. A very young version of me was there and I'd love to watch the video again. Regards, Alastair. From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Fri Apr 13 16:41:38 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 08:41:38 +1200 Subject: HW: Simon King In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I can't take anymore of these html emails coming in as they are jamming up my computer, and now the darn things are appearing with the little blue ladder/snake thingy in the right hand corner of the subject line which means something like a kak worm. So its tatty bye from me ..... if I can successfully unsubscribe. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Fri Apr 13 16:42:25 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 08:42:25 +1200 Subject: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Apr 13 16:53:38 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 21:53:38 +0100 Subject: unsubscribing Message-ID: Hi Richard Sorry to hear that you have had to unsubscribe - I sympathise! It is unfortunate so many messages come in with all the HTML tagging attached and when I used to receive mail on a Unix mainframe I invariably ended up deleting them without reading any of them at all simply because they were completely UN-readable! It would be nice if there were some filtering that could be set up which would recognise HTML mark-ups in a message and simply return them to sender with a request that they be sent as txt files but I guess that just adds extra unnecessary complexities. However if you want to unsubscribe you will need to send mail to the followiing address: LISTSERV at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU The boc- list email address just carries the discussions and doesn't trigger any of the administration bits. You have to ask the other address to do that (although as it's Easter they may be off for a few days there as well). Thought I'd better let you know! cheers jill PS: I hope this is coming through as txt and not as HTML - I've tried to set it up like that! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Stockwell To: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 9:42 PM Subject: unsubscribe > Regards > > Richard > Cranium Music > http://www.cranium.co.nz > http://www.cranium-music.com > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Apr 13 15:54:42 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:54:42 -0400 Subject: unsubscribing Message-ID: Jill said... >It is unfortunate so many messages come in with all the HTML tagging >attached and when I used to receive mail on a Unix mainframe I >invariably ended up deleting them without reading any of them at all >simply because they were completely UN-readable! >PS: I hope this is coming through as txt and not as HTML - I've >tried to set it up like that! Yep, you're cool. This list is beautiful compared to the horrible tendencies of the yahoogroups Hawkwind list (sorry to offend any offenders also here). :) My God, do I have to get 47 worthless attachments every bloody day on that list, and with half of the messages with .html code, and half again responses to those messages without the .html removed? I've tried screaming at those people before, but obviously nobody gave a rat's ass. Unsubscribing is my next option, and I think it's in the near future. Grakkl (FAA) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Apr 13 17:26:42 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:26:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: HTML & unsubscribing Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:54:42 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >Jill said... >>It is unfortunate so many messages come in with all the HTML tagging >>attached and when I used to receive mail on a Unix mainframe I >>invariably ended up deleting them without reading any of them at all >>simply because they were completely UN-readable! > >This list is beautiful compared to the horrible tendencies of the >yahoogroups Hawkwind list (sorry to offend any offenders also here). :) Unquestionably true! One of the REALLY COOL things about the boc-l web archives, is that it filters out all the HTML and only displays the actual text, but still includes a link (at the bottom) to the html version, if you really want to see that (which I rarely do). It would be very nice if LISTSERV could be configured to do that to the messages that it processes and mails out (or if you could turn the option on/off). The list admin of another mailing list I'm on (not a LISTSERV list) recently added code to automatically remove ALL HTML from messages on the list - many people were VERY happy about that. Since I post through the LISTSERV web interface these days, I know MY messages are coming through text-only (which you're probably all REALLY grateful for when they consist of 80 lines of Beach Boys prosthelytization [sorry for butchering the spelling]). Have a great Easter, all who are inclined to celebrate. I think it's one of the ultimate holidays since it combines all three elements that most holidays have only one or two of: FOOD (don't eat too much chocolate if you're on a diet), SEX (what ELSE do bunny rabbits do?) and DEATH. -Doug (sacriligious luddite?) ceres at sirius.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 13 18:15:42 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:15:42 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 4/6 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7 (or 8) pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck 4/6/01 (5--9:30 pm PST) 1.Farflung-- title track (The Raven Ate the Moon) 2.Lithium X-Mas-- "Are You Tripping?" (Bad Karma) 3.F/i-- title track (Space Mantra) 4.Nik Turner-- "Prophecy/Watching the Grass Grow" (Prophets of Time) 5.Anubian Lights-- opening track (Naz Bar; thanks to Tommy, no thanks to the car-burglars who stole the other copy) 6.Mazinga Phazer-- "Apocalypso" (Dissatisfied Customers of Hallucination) 7.Organization-- "Milk Rock" (Tone Float) 8.Orb-- "Supernova at the End of the Universe" (The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld) 9.Zendik Orgaztra-- "Farm Jam" (Dance of the Cosmic Warriorz) 10.Sundial-- "Other Side" (Other Way Out) 11.Mushroom-- "Our Buddy Miles" (Analog Hi-fi Surprise) 12.Quarkspace-- "Sheep Farm" (Spacefolds 6) 13.Ozric Tentacles-- "Live Throbbe" (Strangeitude) 14.Darxtar-- "Metal Fatigue" (Darker) 15.Outrageous Cherry-- "Misty Mountain" (Silver Apples Tribute) 16.Hovercraft-- "Angular Momentum" (Akithisia) 17.Avey Tare and Panda Bear-- "Spirit They've Vanished/April and the Phantom (Spirit They're Gone Spirit They've Vanished) 18.Frank Zappa-- "Filthy Habits" (You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore Vol. 4) 19.Fuxa-- "Convective Envelope" (Accretion) 20.Faust-- "Krautrock" (IV) 21.Henry Cow-- "The Glove" (Unrest) 22.Perry Botkin-- "Mr Jenkins' Morning Ritual" (Combines 3; thanks to Perry) 23.Pressurehed-- "Slo Blo" (Sudden Vertigo) 24.Tuxedomoon-- "Crash" (What Use single; by request from Krissy) 25.Abunai-- "Tomorrow" (Mystic River Sound) 26.Moondance Experiment-- "2nd Melody" (Fall Awake in Your Dreams Tonight) 27.Hawkwind-- "Cajun Jinx" (Out and Intake) 28.Alchemysts and Simeon-- "Magellanic" (Simeon and the Alchemysts) 29.Ozone Player-- "Minibar" (Insane Logic) 30.Vine Sweetland and the Forefathers of the New Millenium-- concluding excerpt (Light Shining in the Distance) 31.Josh Abrahams-- "Marakesh" (Amberdelic Space Vol. 2 comp) 32.Transfinite-- "Marakesh" ( " " " " ) 33.Windy and Carl-- "Venice" (Drawing of Sound) thanks, Chuck From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Apr 13 18:30:00 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:30:00 -0400 Subject: Chicago '89 Chain/Tree Message-ID: Hi all Last calls for participating in the tree (no burner) or chain (yes burner). I am going to put the list together on Sunday. Mike in Troy NY. From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Apr 13 19:02:37 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:02:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: Residents Dates Message-ID: May be of interest to some here. Anyone planning to go to the London show, email me offlist if you want to arrange a meet, as I suspect I'll be going it alone. ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Residents fans, friends, fiends, and flabby breezyholes... Just a note to let you know about certain eyeball news... For those in So.Cal, we'll see you May 25th at Royce Hall (at UCLA) for the Icky Flicks Residents tour stop - if you've read the Smelly Tongues reviews, you know it's not to be missed... and for our friends across the Atlantic, here's some Europe travel plans... 4.6. D-Moers, Internationales Jazz-Festival 5.6 (TBA) 6.6. CH-Genf, L'Usine 7.6. NL-Amsterdam, Paradiso 8.6. B-Antwerpen, Hof Ter Loo 9.6. UK-London, Queen Elizabeth Hall We've also just received the EuroRalph Digipak version of the Icky Flix CD soundtrack, so for you completists, stop by the site (http://www.ralphamerica.com) and pick up yer copy today... -- Nick Medford From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Fri Apr 13 19:14:42 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:14:42 -0500 Subject: Chicago '89 Chain/Tree Message-ID: I wouldn't mind getting a copy of this, although I have no CDR burner, so can't copy the darn thing... I have an extensive tape trade list at http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac/tapes.html mostly all the usual HW boots that are making the rounds, really. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Hi all > > Last calls for participating in the tree (no burner) or chain (yes burner). > I am going to put the list together on Sunday. > > Mike in Troy NY. From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Apr 13 19:19:48 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:19:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: HTML & unsubscribing In-Reply-To: <200104132126.RAA16024@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200104132126.RAA16024 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >Have a great Easter, all who are inclined to celebrate. I think it's one >of the ultimate holidays since it combines all three elements that most >holidays have only one or two of: FOOD (don't eat too much chocolate if >you're on a diet), SEX (what ELSE do bunny rabbits do?) and DEATH. "I am still of opinion that only two topics can be of the least interest to a serious and studious mind: sex and death."- William Butler Yeats But you're right, he forgot to mention food! -- Nick Medford From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Fri Apr 13 19:43:32 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:43:32 +1200 Subject: OFF: HTML & unsubscribing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well after a couple of nice emails (thanks Jill & Mike H) I've resubscribed to the BOC/Hawkwind list but under digest mode to hopefully filter out the background wallpaper that flashes and blinks and jams everything up .... not all the time but sometimes. What you need to be aware of in using html in emails is that you are allowing your systems to become even more open to being hit by virus's. At least with text mail messages you have the 'choice' of not opening an attachment which is the only way a virus can infect your system. With html emails the virus could have already been embedded in the programme and hey presto you open the email and your system can be hit. OK switching to digest mode from this email. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Apr 13 21:01:41 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 21:01:41 -0400 Subject: HW: New Pix !! Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS NEW MINI TOUR PIX UP (ALDERSHOT) ON MISSION CONTROL Links from Gallery> live pix and Updates www.hawkwind.org.uk Leeds and Notts pix to follow..... ++MESSAGE ENDS From coral at APORT.RU Sat Apr 14 02:46:21 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 10:46:21 +0400 Subject: OFF: HTML & unsubscribing Message-ID: > Well after a couple of nice emails (thanks Jill & Mike H) I've resubscribed > to the BOC/Hawkwind list but under digest mode to hopefully filter out the > background wallpaper that flashes and blinks and jams everything up .... not > all the time but sometimes. What you need to be aware of in using html in > emails is that you are allowing your systems to become even more open to > being hit by virus's. At least with text mail messages you have the 'choice' > of not opening an attachment which is the only way a virus can infect your > system. With html emails the virus could have already been embedded in the > programme and hey presto you open the email and your system can be hit. > OK switching to digest mode from this email. Maybe this list need a moderator? Is somenone out there? Who could set option to convert all html e-mails in text mode or just ban them. Alissa From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Apr 14 10:15:22 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Phineas Freak) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 23:45:22 +0930 Subject: Off SMIRN off mr flibble Message-ID: od uoy od woh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sat Apr 14 10:27:25 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 22:27:25 +0800 Subject: OFF: HTML & unsubscribing Message-ID: Richard said: > OK switching to digest mode from this email. Glad to see you've changed your mind. Enjoy the digest.... Bill From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Apr 14 11:30:04 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Silvery Light) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 09:30:04 -0600 Subject: Off SMIRN off mr flibble In-Reply-To: <001a01c0c4ed$589c37a0$07cb223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: " od uoy od woh " Antwort: lausu sa cinomed yrev From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat Apr 14 11:29:57 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:29:57 +0200 Subject: OFF: Please stop these silly postings! Message-ID: Hello folks Please stop posting these boring attachements and/or backgrounds and return back to serious HAWKWIND discussion!!! (You know who you are!) Me and most of the folks here want to discuss about the best band in the world. HAWKWIND Thank you very much for your comprehension!! Bernhard From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sat Apr 14 11:39:06 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 16:39:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: Please stop these silly postings! In-Reply-To: <200104141530.RAA24640@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: At 17:29 +0200 14.04.2001, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: >Please stop posting these boring attachements and/or >backgrounds and return back to serious HAWKWIND discussion!!! Amen. >Me and most of the folks here want to discuss about the best band in the >world. HAWKWIND Along with BOC, of course :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Apr 14 13:00:21 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:00:21 -0600 Subject: OFF: offences In-Reply-To: <200104141530.RAA24640@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: on the behalf of Mike Coleman.... I DO apologize for my taking part.... I will, however, question the application of the word boring..... I CAN'T BEGIN to describe the ABSOLUTE boredom, which can be found here REGULARLY.... middlegrounds....need middlegrounds... mike (and that MOST DEFINATELY means me TOO) From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Apr 14 14:59:52 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 19:59:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) Message-ID: In a bid to get the list back on-topic I re-post my critique of Hawkwind now up-dated to 2001. Those new to the list feel free to comment, those who contributed last time - have a second helping or second swipe. It generated a huge discussion last time may be we'll see some new and different opinions this time around. For me Hawkwind, when on form, can be one of the best gigs around. For two periods one in the late eighties and another they appeared to be in a rut. Then lo and behold they pull a corker out of the bag. What I'd like to see is a period of consistent gigs (not difficult for them) and studio output - a bit more difficult. When I say consistent I don't mean live greatest hits package year in year out, although I'm sure some on the list would be happy for them to retread Space Ritual, with some tacks fom HotMG and Warrior, indefinately. We've all got the records, we can listen to them anytime. I'd love to buy a new release, with tracks that I don't know, slip it into the machine....and ... Then see them on tour!! Kris if you're reading this I can reccomend the Old Fruitmarket in Glasgow for a gig. Saw the Jayhawks there last time around - excellent and unique venue. See you all at the gigs hopefully Dave -----Original Message----- From: david hall To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Date: 21 November 1999 00:00 Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old / Poll >Having caught every tour since 1979 (numerous gigs on some tours) and bought >every official release, and having nothing better to do, here's my potted >history (dates approximate) and opinion of Hawkwind 1979 - 1999. Discussion >and responses welcome! > >The band functions best with a larger line-up. Therefore the ultimate >re-union line-up. > >Dave Brock (guitar, vox) >Huw LLoyd-Langton (guitar) >Lemmy (bass, vox) >Adrian Shaw (bass, vox) >Nik Turner (flute, vox, no sax, no theatrics) >Simon House (violin, organ, mellotron) >Tim Blake (synths, vox) >Simon King (drums, percussion) >Richard Chadwick (drums, percussion) >Mike Moorcock (poetry) >Ron Tree (vox for those nippy Calvert numbers) > >1979 >Spanking return to form. Simon King sums it up in an interview "this time >without the prima donnas". >Gigs were a full on sonic assault. Two guitars, DB out the front, Simon K. >on the tubs, Tim Blake - cosmic. > >1980 >Live 79 (superb but, did we need Silver Machine on it - no, did we need it >shortened by an explosion - no) released, Shot Down In The Night looks like >a top 5 cert. >Implosion alert! Simon King booted out-why? >Levitation released, superb. Ginger Baker now on the drums. not right for HW >say many letters to Sounds Rock mag. Implosion Alert! number two - Tim Blake >out. >Tour okay ace slideshow >High point - HL-L guitar work >Lows - no Tim Blake (synths were never as good again), no Simon King and a >frigging drum solo during Brainstorm. Ginger not powerful enough for HW. >'tis a pity the Live 79 line-up did not continue. > >1981 - 1982 >The RCA years, studio output failed to match the band live. You might be >able to get one good LP out of Sonic Attack, Masques, and Church. Highs: >Angel Of Death, Fahrenheit 451, Rocky Paths, Living On A Knife Edge. Martin >Griffin on drums on short term basis. Although many suspect it is Dave >banging the biscuit tins >in the studio, because that's what it sounds like. Simon King almost >rejoins, a photo with him and the band from 1982? features in Hawkfan. >Various rumours as to why this didn't happen. >Live - the band are storming, although a keyboard player was required. Nik T >guests on Masques tour. Sonic Attack tour sees the projections blossoming. >The dancers return for the Masques tour. > >1983 - 1984 >Studio output - dodgy. >Nik T back in the band. >Live the band are storming when Nik plays at being part of a band and not >the front man. Flute playing - ace, spoken word - okay. Sax and theatrics - >sonic farting (fans pissed off in droves). Lemmy rumoured to be joining for >the Earth Ritual tour - but is a no-show. Dead Fred (ex ICU) on organ and >violin. >Alan Davey arrives at a later point. > >(Early to mid '80s sees the advent of the Dave Brock chug-a-chug keyboard >bass line; still in use in 1999!) > >1985 >The Black Sword Tour >Return to form in studio and live. Moorcock guests at Hammersmith. Band on >form. > >1986 >Live LP released -spiffing. > >1986 - 1989 >The Curse Of The Blacksword methinks. Mess with Elric's mighty blade and it >will suck your soul. Lack of quality control on all fronts. Dave and Alan >start to hide behind stacks of keyboard. Huw leaves....or rather fades away, >or was he faded out? > >1989 >The return of Simon House. Gigs are fantastic - get these shows out on CD >now!!!!! > >1990 >Space Bandits - apart from "Out Of The Shadows" - crap. Sorry, but there it >is. Bridgett doesn't cut it in the studio, and live isn't just irritating, >is in fact dreadful >(nothing this bad is seen until Rizz). >1990/1? Tim Blake guests. > >1991 - 1994 >The trio years. >Palace Springs (live with Bridgett, Simon H and Harvey) - average; although >Treadmill excellent. >1992 Electric Tepee released generally good. Best LP since Black Sword, >would have been excellent with a bit of editing (Right To Decide and Secret >Agent HW classics). >1993 "It Is The Business....." studio released, patchy but interesting. >1994 "The Business Trip" live set released. Good >Live the band are good, when they let it rip (Dave especially when he >decides to leave the keys for the guitar). Have a habit of letting the >synths chug away which breaks the momentum. But Richard gives it welly in an >attempt to retain balance!! Continue the habit of keyboard versions of old >songs (Golden Void)...stop it, and insist on playing a truely awful 'reggae' >thing, ditchthat too (Lee 'Scratch' Perry it isn't)! >Alan and Dave, especially Dave, now almost static behind the keyboard >high-rise. >Alert: stagnation possible! >Time for a change (line-up expansion required). > >1995 - 1996 >Ron Tree arrives. Alien gigs excellent. >Alien 4 and Love In Space better than Electric Tepee. >Alan Davey leaves. > >1997 >Distant Horizons released. Disappointing, or maybe expctations were too >high, to say the least. >Live it is a mixed affair; Dave invisible at the back. A friend says to me >after the gig "I thought Dave Brock was still in the band". Rizz; get him to >****!!! Is the general opinion. Line-up review required. 1998 - 2001 A strange period this....plenty of solo activity from past and present members. Lots of media activity - re-releases, TV programmes, adverts. Unbelievable numbers of unreleased archive material. But sadly no new studio ouput. What's this?? Rumours of William Orbit on production duties...the crowd go mental, the ball's in the back of the net, I hope this happens. Hawkwind material has on occasion, in the last few years, lacked on the production side (if Willam can't do it ...what about Brian Eno or Bob Ezrin - bring back Dave Charles where did he go?). It finally happened - the reunion gig. On a personal level I thought it was the best Hawkwind event I've witnessed. High points too many: Dave Brock and Lemmy "connecting" seemingly, Moonglum played - the best song from Blacksword! Hopes are raised that there will be re-newed Hawk activity with extended line-ups. And in some ways these hopes are realised....unfortunately the Hawkwind spaceship seems to have fractured..with Hawkwind and Nikwind both gigging. Now this is a bit of a shame really because although Niks sax can grate sometimes one of my memories of Hawkestra was Nik incanting a poem and really building the atmosphere. Also Tim seems to have taken the humph because his name was put on the bill for a gig without his say-so. Is Huw in the band or not? Is the new sax player any good? Is he right for Hawkwind? Some reports I've heard say that he's technically excellent but wrong for the band (shades of Ginger Baker replacing Simon King). Lemmy now lives in LA - was his participation a one-off?. Does this mean then that Hawkwind have missed a window of opportunity for a Hawkestra based recording? Apart from Hawkestra what is the line-up of Hawkwind 2001? Welcome to the future!! What is the future? Dave Brock - over to you! Dave From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Apr 14 14:26:47 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 19:26:47 +0100 Subject: HW:Space rock...IT IS! DRUMROLL PLEASE!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 4/1/01 9:42:19 PM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: Well, actually it was Mike C.; but I quoted it sure, enough. > << HAWKWIND invented it, and are still BEST at it........ >> > ========= > see: > *"astronomy domine" > > *"interstellar overdrive" > > *"set the controls for the heart of the sun" > = > *"rocket reducer #62 (rama lama fa fa fa)" > ======= > c'mon guys, we sorta knew better. > ...and Chuck Berry had some song about flying around in his l'il rocket ship, > whose title eludes me, but it does dovetail nicely in to Hawkwind's most > memorable "hit record", > which hinged, explicitly, upon the riffing of Chuck Berry. I've been thinking about this because although I've often thought about how Chuck Berry's family would do if they sued generally for prior invention of The Riff, I can't quite see him as space-rock before its time. Nor the MC5, quite. The Floyd thing threw me, but now I have thought and I know what I think I would say about this, and it is this. Songs about space aren't the whole thing. I think what made the difference at the beginning was the drugs - altered state/outer space comparisons easy to make and suddenly here's the Pink Floyd and other people too making music designed to levitate. And when I got _Hawkwind_ its very self the thing I thought of most when I played it was the live half of _Ummagumma_, particularly Terry Ollis's cymbal-tapping sounded just like Nick Mason theer I thought, though when they sped up they became clearly different drummers. But they were cruising in the same space. And then, and then Hawkwind *add* the Chuck Berry engine to the craft and it's away under power while the Floyd are still floating gently above the rooftops, as ST37 wisely put it, `Ur-Punk to the Moooooon!' I think it's the combination of the elements that makes the Hawkwind formula the New Thing. Undeniably you can trace them all back somewhere else (except perhaps the noises of Dave's guitar) but they never went off like that before. On the other hand I wasn't there so this impression may be utterly faulty, but that's how I imagine it to have been. > whether they be 'BEST at it'....well, anyway, they're no less than "the last > ones standing". Apart from the odd one or two like Man or Gong who have also made it through this is sadly true. But the last ten years have seen a slew of new bands it would seem; just trawl the results of that top ten spacerock bands thread I inadvisedly started. But it's very difficult to compare ay of them to Hawkwind's lifetime achievement whether they be better now or no. And in concert I'm not sure Hawkwind still aren't the best in the genre. At the moment at least. Until I can get to see Farflung and or ST37 or any of the other American bands I doubt I shall have this opinion challenged too seriously either. But having stated my views as arrogantly self-confidently as all that, let someone come in and knock holes in it, I'm sure I deserve it... Yours, Jon ObCD: Ash Ra Tempel - _Ash Ra Tempel_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sat Apr 14 14:53:57 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 19:53:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) Message-ID: > From: david hall > >Having caught every tour since 1979 (numerous gigs on some tours) and > bought > >every official release, and having nothing better to do, here's my potted > >history (dates approximate) and opinion of Hawkwind 1979 - 1999. Discussion > >and responses welcome! > > > >The band functions best with a larger line-up. Therefore the ultimate > >re-union line-up. > > > >Dave Brock (guitar, vox) > >Huw LLoyd-Langton (guitar) > >Lemmy (bass, vox) > >Adrian Shaw (bass, vox) > >Nik Turner (flute, vox, no sax, no theatrics) > >Simon House (violin, organ, mellotron) > >Tim Blake (synths, vox) > >Simon King (drums, percussion) > >Richard Chadwick (drums, percussion) > >Mike Moorcock (poetry) > >Ron Tree (vox for those nippy Calvert numbers) if we are talking about the ultimate reunion line-up (including live or dead members) then I would go for: Dave Brock (guitar, Vox, banned from the keyboards and made to play more lead guitar) Bob Calvert (Vocals) Paul Rudolph (Bass) - Everyone will probably disagree on this one and pick the more popular lemmy but I like the way Paul Rudolph played his bass in the astounding sounds tour! Lemmy (bass) - Have only seen one band with dual bass players and that was neds atomic dustbin and they rocked live! Nik Turner (No random blasts on his horn allowed though and only if he plays in tune!) Simon House (Violin and more keys, does Simon ever have a tinkle on the keys anymore??) Simon King (Drums) - The ultimate Hawkwind drummer! Richard Chadwick is good but I really love the style of Simons drumming and what it adds to the overall hawk sound. It was one of the things that make hawkwind sound so different from any one else! Alan Powell (Drums) - Kinda did the business jointly with Simon king on warrior and astounding. Thought about adding Huw to my line up but after listening to pre huw hawkwind charisma material decided against it. They didn't have an out an out lead guitar player then and it didn't seem to hinder the excellent material they were coming out with. Cheers Colm From bart at ENGAGE.NU Sat Apr 14 15:03:49 2001 From: bart at ENGAGE.NU (Bart Brugmans) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:03:49 +0200 Subject: OFF: HTML & unsubscribing In-Reply-To: <006701c0c4ae$9e7fc0a0$b004efc3@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: On 14 Apr 2001, at 10:46, Alissa wrote: > > Maybe this list need a moderator? Is somenone out there? Who could set > option to convert all html e-mails in text mode or just ban them. I would vote for banning them. --BArt From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sat Apr 14 20:02:15 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 20:02:15 BST Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) Message-ID: Dave wrote: >I'd love to buy a new release, with tracks that I don't know, slip it into >the machine....and ... >Then see them on tour!! Its the other way round for me - I like tp hear new material for the first time at a gig and then wait impatiently for it to be released. Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Apr 14 16:08:39 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:08:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tarot Cards and cosmic couriers? In-Reply-To: <054801c0bc90$2ff260a0$ea18bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > and if Archie does, then you need > www.eurock.com Archie doesn't, or at least there's nothing of it on his site, which is still worth a look. > and if that's no good and you still want it at a price that would shock > buyers of Picasso originals, try us at CD Services on: > agcdser at aol.com On the understanding that I'm absolutely not going to buy it this year, probably this decade, I'd still be interested to know the asking price though... Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Apr 14 16:30:07 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:30:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) Message-ID: I shall break my vow of list silence on this one. I agree with Colm in that Paul Rudolph and Alan Powell were, despite the folklore, excellent musicians. Alan's drumming on Spiral Galaxy is a delight to hear (no it wasn't all done by Simon King as one web site would have you believe) and there are many more fine examples. I just love that 1976 double album - the start of Opa Loka/Uncle Sam, Time For Sale, Steppenwolf, Brainstorm, everyone a gem and much more creative than the Adrian Shaw period (howls of derision from the list posters). If only Astounding Sounds had been a well produced studio double album, think what a classic that would have been. No, really! Captain Bl at ck. > > if we are talking about the ultimate reunion line-up (including live or dead > members) then I would go for: > Dave Brock (guitar, Vox, banned from the keyboards and made to play more > lead guitar) > Bob Calvert (Vocals) > Paul Rudolph (Bass) - Everyone will probably disagree on this one and pick > the more popular lemmy but I like the way Paul Rudolph played his bass in > the astounding sounds tour! > Lemmy (bass) - Have only seen one band with dual bass players and that was > neds atomic dustbin and they rocked live! > Nik Turner (No random blasts on his horn allowed though and only if he plays > in tune!) > Simon House (Violin and more keys, does Simon ever have a tinkle on the keys > anymore??) > Simon King (Drums) - The ultimate Hawkwind drummer! Richard Chadwick is good > but I really love the style of Simons drumming and what it adds to the > overall hawk sound. It was one of the things that make hawkwind sound so > different from any one else! > Alan Powell (Drums) - Kinda did the business jointly with Simon king on > warrior and astounding. > > Thought about adding Huw to my line up but after listening to pre huw > hawkwind charisma material decided against it. They didn't have an out an > out lead guitar player then and it didn't seem to hinder the excellent > material they were coming out with. > > Cheers > > Colm From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sat Apr 14 16:45:18 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:45:18 +0100 Subject: HW:Space rock...IT IS! DRUMROLL PLEASE!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 19:26 +0100 14.04.2001, Jon Jarrett wrote: > I've been thinking about this because although I've often thought >about how Chuck Berry's family would do if they sued generally for prior >invention of The Riff, I can't quite see him as space-rock before its >time. Nor the MC5, quite. The Floyd thing threw me, but now I have thought >and I know what I think I would say about this, and it is this. Songs >about space aren't the whole thing. I think what made the difference at >the beginning was the drugs Not that Chuck Berry was a stranger to drugs ... :) Moreover, "Maybeline" would make an awesome "stoner rock" song :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Apr 14 16:45:58 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:45:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Weirdos in general In-Reply-To: <200104040031.RAA29416@bob.te-cats.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, John H. McCartney wrote: > With compilations that cover a large timespan, I tend to stick > them in just after the newest item on the comp, such that the > mythical comp "Bottom End of the Hawk: The Bassists of Hawkwind" > that had a track from IITFOTFTBD as the latest, then just behind > there is where I'd put it. This I certainly do. > I tried just putting all the comps at the end of the pile, but > that didn't work well as that's where I stick collaborations > and F&R type things. Split albums first, then V/A things alphabetically by title with a band name as first word of that title if there's an obvious one, as with the F&R albums... > Anyone else have interesting solutions to this dilemma? When everything I owned was on tape and came to about forty albums I kept them in a sort of playlist, and order in which one could just about plauisibly follow another. I thought this was a lot more thoughtful and less, ahem, retentive than storing them alphabetically, which was quiet untrue, and then I got more albums anyway. And in any case other people always put them back in the wrong place. Of course they still do because they don't possess an itemised discography of all the relevant bands in their heads but at least they're only within thorty or so CDs of each other... Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sat Apr 14 18:20:08 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 23:20:08 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) Message-ID: is it just me? when i say that you need to hear the recorded version of a song before you hear it live as you can never seem make out all the words sung? colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Crook" To: Sent: 14 April 2001 21:02 Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) > Dave wrote: > >I'd love to buy a new release, with tracks that I don't know, slip it into > >the machine....and ... > >Then see them on tour!! > > Its the other way round for me - I like tp hear new material for the first time at a gig and then wait impatiently for it to be released. > > Mick > > > > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com > From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sat Apr 14 18:22:51 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 23:22:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) Message-ID: > From: david hall >>Dead Fred (ex ICU) on organ and >>Violin. is there any recorded material live(bootleg?) or otherwise of dead fred playing with hawkwind? Was he an adequate replacement for simon house? cheers colm From nick at NETPHD.NET Sat Apr 14 22:04:35 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 22:04:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Blackmore's Knight Message-ID: For anyone who cares, I hear Blackmore's Knight will be releasing its third album in June. If you've never heard of them or heard them, you really should. It's Ritchie Blackmore and his girlfriend- slash-lead singer Candace Knight. It's mostly acoustic, Rennaissance-type music, but Ritchie puts a blues-rock edge on much of it. Every now and then, He even breaks out the old electric guitar and lets it fly, too. On their last album, "Under a Violet Moon", they even did an all-acoustic version of the old Rainbow tune "Self Portrait". . . it was really awesome. --Nick From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Apr 15 00:06:45 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:06:45 EDT Subject: HW:Space rock... Message-ID: In a message dated 4/14/01 4:46:11 PM, scylding at CARLAZ.COM writes: << I've been thinking about this because although I've often thought >about how Chuck Berry's family would do if they sued generally for prior >invention of The Riff, I can't quite see him as space-rock before its >time. Nor the MC5, quite. The Floyd thing threw me, but now I have thought >and I know what I think I would say about this, and it is this. Songs >about space aren't the whole thing. I think what made the difference at >the beginning was the drugs >> ============= <<...well...y'know... in terms of "historical precedent"... then hawkwind didnt _invent_ anything. musically or drug-wise neither. and their whole 1971-3 conceptualization was Calvert's. mr. brock would concur. (...and then there's ike turner's 1951 'Rocket 88'.....) ...and doc synth once traded to me a japanese '68 lp, 'space and mary jane trip'; electronic sounds very close to qualifying as 'swooshy'. woulda fit right in on 'ISOS' this is silly... "<>" are we there yet? From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sun Apr 15 02:13:29 2001 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 01:13:29 -0500 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: "If only Astounding Sounds had been a well produced studio double album, think what a classic that would have been." Huh? I think it is an excellently produced studio album and a classic in it's own right.. Blew me away when I first heard it, though it was on a good sound system in conjunction with some Moroccan Brown and headphones. Seemed like it was designed for that. To this day, it's a classic in my book in that it brought Bob Calvert's genius to the forefront, and still sounds awesome. A bit muddy in places, but, man, that was an album that blew me emotionally away more so than even Space Ritual. It displayed Bob Calvert's passion moreso than any album he was featured on. It definitely fit the times, and still holds up to this day, IMO. "Captain Bl at ck" wrote: > I shall break my vow of list silence on this one. I agree with Colm in that > Paul Rudolph and Alan Powell were, despite the folklore, excellent > musicians. Alan's drumming on Spiral Galaxy is a delight to hear (no it > wasn't all done by Simon King as one web site would have you believe) and > there are many more fine examples. I just love that 1976 double album - the > start of Opa Loka/Uncle Sam, Time For Sale, Steppenwolf, Brainstorm, > everyone a gem and much more creative than the Adrian Shaw period (howls of > derision from the list posters). If only Astounding Sounds had been a well > produced studio double album, think what a classic that would have been. > No, really! > > Captain Bl at ck. > > > > > if we are talking about the ultimate reunion line-up (including live or > dead > > members) then I would go for: > > Dave Brock (guitar, Vox, banned from the keyboards and made to play more > > lead guitar) > > Bob Calvert (Vocals) > > Paul Rudolph (Bass) - Everyone will probably disagree on this one and pick > > the more popular lemmy but I like the way Paul Rudolph played his bass in > > the astounding sounds tour! > > Lemmy (bass) - Have only seen one band with dual bass players and that was > > neds atomic dustbin and they rocked live! > > Nik Turner (No random blasts on his horn allowed though and only if he > plays > > in tune!) > > Simon House (Violin and more keys, does Simon ever have a tinkle on the > keys > > anymore??) > > Simon King (Drums) - The ultimate Hawkwind drummer! Richard Chadwick is > good > > but I really love the style of Simons drumming and what it adds to the > > overall hawk sound. It was one of the things that make hawkwind sound so > > different from any one else! > > Alan Powell (Drums) - Kinda did the business jointly with Simon king on > > warrior and astounding. > > > > Thought about adding Huw to my line up but after listening to pre huw > > hawkwind charisma material decided against it. They didn't have an out an > > out lead guitar player then and it didn't seem to hinder the excellent > > material they were coming out with. > > > > Cheers > > > > Colm From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sun Apr 15 03:50:26 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 09:50:26 +0200 Subject: HW: Tapes with DEAD FRED In-Reply-To: <00ac01c0c531$7d67d500$8a65883e@bedroomt> Message-ID: Hi Colm At 23:22 14.04.2001 +0100, you wrote: >is there any recorded material live(bootleg?) or otherwise of dead fred >playing with hawkwind? Here are all known live tapes with HAWKWIND and Dead Fred TOWN HALL DATE Cricket St.Thomas Wildlife Park 04.06.1983 Stonehenge Festival 22.06.1983 Slough Thames Hall 16.02.1984 Birmingham Odeon 17.02.1984 Liverpool Empire 18.02.1984 Manchester Apollo 19.02.1984 Preston Guild Hall 20.02.1984 Sheffield City Hall 21.02.1984 Newcastle City Hall 22.02.1984 Edinburgh Playhouse 23.02.1984 Aberdeen Capitol 24.02.1984 Glasgow Apollo 26.02.1984 Hull City Hall 27.02.1984 Halifax Civic Theatre 29.02.1984 Bradford University 01.03.1984 Hanley Victoria Hall 02.03.1984 Nottingham Sherwood Rooms 03.03.1984 Folkestone Leas Cliff Hall 05.03.1984 Crawley Leisure Centre 06.03.1984 Portsmouth Guild Hall 07.03.1984 Dunstable Queensway Hall 08.03.1984 Ipswich Gaumont 09.03.1984 Reading University 10.03.1984 Leicester DeMontfort Hall 11.03.1984 London Hammersmith Odeon 13.03.1984 London Hammersmith Odeon 14.03.1984 Cardiff St.Davids Hall 16.03.1984 Oxford Apollo 17.03.1984 Bristol Colston Hall 18.03.1984 Bath Pavillon 19.03.1984 Southend Cliffs Pavillon 20.03.1984 Plymouth Skating Ring 23.03.1984 Ramsgate Marina Park 28.05.1984 cheers Bernhard From Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Apr 15 04:14:29 2001 From: Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE (Rainer Wangler) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:14:29 +0200 Subject: HW: Tapes with DEAD FRED Message-ID: and Amsterdam Melkweg 31.07.1984 , Amsterdam Melkweg 01.08.1984 Rainer Bernhard Pospiech schrieb: > Hi Colm > > At 23:22 14.04.2001 +0100, you wrote: > > >is there any recorded material live(bootleg?) or otherwise of dead fred > >playing with hawkwind? > > > Here are all known live tapes with HAWKWIND and Dead Fred > > TOWN HALL DATE > Cricket St.Thomas Wildlife Park 04.06.1983 > Stonehenge Festival 22.06.1983 > Slough Thames Hall 16.02.1984 > Birmingham Odeon 17.02.1984 > Liverpool Empire 18.02.1984 > Manchester Apollo 19.02.1984 > Preston Guild Hall 20.02.1984 > Sheffield City Hall 21.02.1984 > Newcastle City Hall 22.02.1984 > Edinburgh Playhouse 23.02.1984 > Aberdeen Capitol 24.02.1984 > Glasgow Apollo 26.02.1984 > Hull City Hall 27.02.1984 > Halifax Civic Theatre 29.02.1984 > Bradford University 01.03.1984 > Hanley Victoria Hall 02.03.1984 > Nottingham Sherwood Rooms 03.03.1984 > Folkestone Leas Cliff Hall 05.03.1984 > Crawley Leisure Centre 06.03.1984 > Portsmouth Guild Hall 07.03.1984 > Dunstable Queensway Hall 08.03.1984 > Ipswich Gaumont 09.03.1984 > Reading University 10.03.1984 > Leicester DeMontfort Hall 11.03.1984 > London Hammersmith Odeon 13.03.1984 > London Hammersmith Odeon 14.03.1984 > Cardiff St.Davids Hall 16.03.1984 > Oxford Apollo 17.03.1984 > Bristol Colston Hall 18.03.1984 > Bath Pavillon 19.03.1984 > Southend Cliffs Pavillon 20.03.1984 > Plymouth Skating Ring 23.03.1984 > Ramsgate Marina Park 28.05.1984 > > > > cheers > Bernhard From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Apr 15 03:23:51 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 08:23:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall > > For me Hawkwind, when on form, can be one of the best gigs around. For two > periods one in the late eighties and another they appeared to be in a rut. > Then lo and behold they pull a corker out of the bag. What I really liked at the end of the eighties was going to the Space Bandits album tour at Colston Hall, having a wonderful time and only at the end going "Wow, no Master, no Brainstorm" and enjoying a really freshened up set. Think this has happened again on the Spring Tour. Although I didn't get to any gigs (curses Railtrack), listening to the Leeds gig this weekend it really comes over with a sense of renewal and vitality, lots of unexpected reappearances and some new stuff to get some anticipatory juices flowing. Lets hope that, as it seems, Hawkestra out of the way and the very well received Astoria gig behind him, Dave is riding on a new wave of enthusiasm....Great Stuff!!! Ian From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Apr 15 05:59:48 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:59:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Tapes with DEAD FRED Message-ID: cheers Bernhard and Rainer you guys are the business!!! Colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Wangler" To: Sent: 15 April 2001 09:14 Subject: Re: HW: Tapes with DEAD FRED > and Amsterdam Melkweg 31.07.1984 , > Amsterdam Melkweg 01.08.1984 > Rainer > Bernhard Pospiech schrieb: > > Hi Colm > > > > At 23:22 14.04.2001 +0100, you wrote: > > > > >is there any recorded material live(bootleg?) or otherwise of dead fred > > >playing with hawkwind? > > > > > > Here are all known live tapes with HAWKWIND and Dead Fred > > > > TOWN HALL DATE > > Cricket St.Thomas Wildlife Park 04.06.1983 > > Stonehenge Festival 22.06.1983 > > Slough Thames Hall 16.02.1984 > > Birmingham Odeon 17.02.1984 > > Liverpool Empire 18.02.1984 > > Manchester Apollo 19.02.1984 > > Preston Guild Hall 20.02.1984 > > Sheffield City Hall 21.02.1984 > > Newcastle City Hall 22.02.1984 > > Edinburgh Playhouse 23.02.1984 > > Aberdeen Capitol 24.02.1984 > > Glasgow Apollo 26.02.1984 > > Hull City Hall 27.02.1984 > > Halifax Civic Theatre 29.02.1984 > > Bradford University 01.03.1984 > > Hanley Victoria Hall 02.03.1984 > > Nottingham Sherwood Rooms 03.03.1984 > > Folkestone Leas Cliff Hall 05.03.1984 > > Crawley Leisure Centre 06.03.1984 > > Portsmouth Guild Hall 07.03.1984 > > Dunstable Queensway Hall 08.03.1984 > > Ipswich Gaumont 09.03.1984 > > Reading University 10.03.1984 > > Leicester DeMontfort Hall 11.03.1984 > > London Hammersmith Odeon 13.03.1984 > > London Hammersmith Odeon 14.03.1984 > > Cardiff St.Davids Hall 16.03.1984 > > Oxford Apollo 17.03.1984 > > Bristol Colston Hall 18.03.1984 > > Bath Pavillon 19.03.1984 > > Southend Cliffs Pavillon 20.03.1984 > > Plymouth Skating Ring 23.03.1984 > > Ramsgate Marina Park 28.05.1984 > > > > > > > > cheers > > Bernhard > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sun Apr 15 06:26:26 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:26:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: Blackmore's Knight In-Reply-To: <200104150204.WAA21572@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: At 22:04 -0400 14.04.2001, Nick English wrote: >For anyone who cares, I hear Blackmore's Knight will be >releasing its third album in June. > >If you've never heard of them or heard them, you really >should. It's Ritchie Blackmore and his girlfriend- >slash-lead singer Candace Knight. It's mostly >acoustic, Rennaissance-type music, but Ritchie puts a >blues-rock edge on much of it. Every now and then, He >even breaks out the old electric guitar and lets it >fly, too. Blackmore's _Night_, surely, rather than **Knight (and, equally, "Candice Night"). Nit-picky, but helpful getting a useful response out of search engines ;) Pseudo-folk with a New-Agish shine to it, and pleasant enough if one likes to visit such things on occasion. (How did that old bastard acquire _her_!? :) Ian Anderson guested on a track on one of the previous albums :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Sun Apr 15 06:27:43 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:27:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) In-Reply-To: <005201c0c584$98f19ce0$acbf883e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: At 8:23 +0100 15.04.2001, Ian Abrahams wrote: >Lets hope that, as it seems, Hawkestra out of the way and the very well >received Astoria gig behind him, Dave is riding on a new wave of >enthusiasm.... As long as he turns up his guitar amp :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Apr 15 06:40:06 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:40:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) Message-ID: From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" > At 8:23 +0100 15.04.2001, Ian Abrahams wrote: > >Lets hope that, as it seems, Hawkestra out of the way and the very well > >received Astoria gig behind him, Dave is riding on a new wave of > >enthusiasm.... > > As long as he turns up his guitar amp :) > > Cheers, > Carl > and captain Rizz is pensioned off!!!! colm From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sun Apr 15 06:57:19 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:57:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) In-Reply-To: <007401c0c598$70c2f660$2875883e@bedroomt> Message-ID: At 11:40 +0100 15.04.2001, bedroom trancer wrote: >From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" >> At 8:23 +0100 15.04.2001, Ian Abrahams wrote: >> >Lets hope that, as it seems, Hawkestra out of the way and the very well >> >received Astoria gig behind him, Dave is riding on a new wave of >> >enthusiasm.... >> >> As long as he turns up his guitar amp :) > >and captain Rizz is pensioned off!!!! No argument there .... ;) IMO a Brock/Davey/Chadwick/Blake/House lineup should be sufficient for all purposes :) I suppose we can have Jerry in there too. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 15 07:38:37 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:08:37 +0930 Subject: OFF: HTML & unsubscribing Message-ID: What about freedom of speech? Freedom of expression Freedom to use your delete button Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Bart Brugmans To: Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 4:33 AM Subject: Re: OFF: HTML & unsubscribing > On 14 Apr 2001, at 10:46, Alissa wrote: > > > > > Maybe this list need a moderator? Is somenone out there? Who could set > > option to convert all html e-mails in text mode or just ban them. > > I would vote for banning them. > > --BArt From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sun Apr 15 09:00:42 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:00:42 +0100 Subject: OFF: HTML & unsubscribing In-Reply-To: <004801c0c5a0$9cae9420$3dcd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: At 21:08 +0930 15.04.2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: >What about freedom of speech? >Freedom of expression >Freedom to use your delete button And, indeed, the freedom to talk bollocks on a list specifically dedicated to BOC/Hawkwind when there's a whole wide internet out there with plenty of places for people to talk bollocks legitimately. "Just because one _has_ a freedom to speak doesn't mean that one _must_ ..." Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Apr 15 10:34:48 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Md Coleman) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 08:34:48 -0600 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: somebody in the void said stuff like this: " and captain Rizz is pensioned off": "No argument there" please guys..... He reminds me of my friend Chris Funk... He has the coolest teeth..... I like him.... I want to see him pop up on Hawk records... his custom tour bus rules ..... he can get more girls than (you?) (more than me.....NO DOUBT) he looks cooooool he's fun to drink +etc with...... on and on and on and on Mike Coleman From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Apr 15 09:47:51 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:47:51 +0800 Subject: OFF: Blackmore's Knight Message-ID: The name of the band is Blackmore's Night. The female lead vocalist is Candice Night (where the 2nd part of the name comes from). There's a video around of the band, where they also do 16th Century Greensleaves, as well as excerpts from other Rainbow & Deep Purple tunes. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick English" To: Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 10:04 AM Subject: OFF: Blackmore's Knight > For anyone who cares, I hear Blackmore's Knight will be > releasing its third album in June. > > If you've never heard of them or heard them, you really > should. It's Ritchie Blackmore and his girlfriend- > slash-lead singer Candace Knight. It's mostly > acoustic, Rennaissance-type music, but Ritchie puts a > blues-rock edge on much of it. Every now and then, He > even breaks out the old electric guitar and lets it > fly, too. > > On their last album, "Under a Violet Moon", they even > did an all-acoustic version of the old Rainbow > tune "Self Portrait". . . it was really awesome. > > --Nick > From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Apr 15 05:27:12 2001 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:27:12 +0100 Subject: The Never Ending Story Of The Psychedelic Warlords CD question In-Reply-To: <3AD93C09.1BBF10C5@petronet.net> Message-ID: Hi all, Just a quick question: the CD which came with the above titled book says "Live in space 1990" but doesn't give the exact recording date and location. Do we know what this is please? TIA, Mark From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sun Apr 15 10:32:20 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:32:20 +0200 Subject: The Never Ending Story Of The Psychedelic Warlords CD question In-Reply-To: <0Li9aFAwlW26Ewn2@mmje.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Mark At 10:27 15.04.2001 +0100, you wrote: >Just a quick question: the CD which came with the above titled book says >"Live in space 1990" but doesn't give the exact recording date and >location. Do we know what this is please? Leicester, DeMontfort Hall, 05.11.1990 cheers Bernhard From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 15 11:40:35 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:10:35 +0930 Subject: OFF: HTML & unsubscribing Message-ID: > "Just because one _has_ a freedom to speak doesn't mean that one _must_ ..." Bolloockses - yes it does Oh - what is a flame war?? I don't get it? Mb From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Apr 15 11:50:18 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:50:18 EDT Subject: Off: chat groups on flame w/ Rock and Roll..... Message-ID: In a message dated 4/15/01 11:38:29 AM, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: << Oh - what is a flame war?? >> ========= you'd know it if/when you see it... but we're mostly a bunch of sweeties these days. heh, more or less "<>" The Naked News From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Apr 15 13:10:10 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Itchie Butts) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:10:10 -0600 Subject: Off: chat groups on flame w/ Rock and Roll..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: an alien friend named Larry Boyd, revealed properly: "but we're mostly a bunch of sweeties these days. heh, more or less.........." I hope you high Hawkheads will allow me to second that....., before I go grab some brews and jam out+intake Spanish LP......(didn't get to it last nite RIK) and Larry....if that news thing gets in my face one more time, I'm going to go waitin' on the man...... and some peeple out there DON'T want me doing THAT!.... LOL LooneyMick See? From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Apr 15 13:25:07 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Itchie Butts) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:25:07 -0600 Subject: Off:BADLY OFF: Chuck Berry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lost his Hawkwind riffing credit when he was caught getting up-the-skirt shots, or whatever kink it was....... m dc From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Apr 15 12:45:38 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:45:38 EDT Subject: Off:BADLY OFF: Chuck Berry Message-ID: In a message dated 4/15/01 12:24:48 PM, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: << Lost his Hawkwind riffing credit when he was caught getting up-the-skirt shots, or whatever kink it was....... >> ===== ...and terry ollis ....and the lovely and talented stacia were never nekkid onstage neether. but seriously folks.... = peepster Berry had a hidden camera or two set up in the ladies room of some place he owned... his voyeuristic motivations were, at least in part, scatological. ewwwwwwwwwwww -_- ========= "<>" Keebler Elves vs. Rice Crispies Elves! From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Apr 15 13:19:33 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:19:33 +0100 Subject: HW:Space rock...What it is ? In-Reply-To: <71.c3a1df2.27ff9bc1@aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > > > JJ -- Really enjoyed your Space-Rock Thesis. Hopefully a work in > progress... > > > > Well, not really, except inasmuch I had to reformat it for > > seding... How would you suggest altering, just updating the bands > > mentioned (have to wait till I can afford more CDs if so) or the actual > > text? > > Yeah, updating, more research, more bands, maybe some interviews and > different perspectives (from musicians and fans)...of course, you can work > all this in to your own thesis, by argument or whatever, since it's your > project. Bloody hell. This is not a thesis project, this is for when I finally start writing web-pages :-) Which will probably be after my _actual_ thesis, you know? > > What's wrong with the tracking on _25,000 Feet_? > > Tracks 1 and 2 ("Solar Electric" and "Open Your Mouth") are both tracked as > number 1. "Greater Waters" would seem to be one track, but turns into two > when the slow, mandolin part starts. > > I wrote out my own track-list on a sticky-sheet and attached it to the insert: > > 1.Solar Electric/Open Yr Mouth > 2.Don't Forget to Breathe > 3.title track > 4. and 5. Greater Waters (pts one and two, perhaps) > 6.Landing on Cydonia > 7.Hot Fluffy Mind I always figured `Solar Electric' to be the two-part track on there. `Open Your Mouth', identifiable as such by the vocals, is tracked as No. 2 on my copy. Or are you reckoning the latter part of No. 1 as part of `Open Your Mouth' rather than `Solar Electric'? Because the riffs are different... Although there's no reason why one song couldn't have two riffs even on a space-rock album :-) I just don't see any real reason to suppose that the tracking's awry, I think it's meant to be like that. Certainly I wouldn't split up `Greater Waters', it only makes sense all together! My opinion only of course, yours, Jon ObCD: Orbital - brown album -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sun Apr 15 22:57:48 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:57:48 BST Subject: HW Who's that? Message-ID: I bought Atomhenge 76 the other day. Who is that pictured in the booklet, beneath the Atomhenge pencil sketch, next to the Time of the Hawklord's book? Is it Liquid Len? Cheers Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Apr 15 18:22:14 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:22:14 -0400 Subject: boc:News from the boc wire Message-ID: "At a show last night, Buck announced that "Pocket" will be the first single from the new album, "Curse of the Hidden Mirror" From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Sun Apr 15 19:17:09 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:17:09 EDT Subject: hey ho, let's go: sad news Message-ID: sorry to report to those who havent already heard: joey ramone has passed away. i don' thave any details other than last month he was diagnosed with cancer of the thyroid, fast and inoperable. i thank the ramones for showing me that less is more; that there can be great depth in simplicity; that loud rock music is SUPPOSED TO BE FUN, and FUNNY; that perserverance is its own reward; and that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, that if you truly have something of value to say, that message will never age. the passing of a true legend and musical genius. i always thought that if you didn't like at least one of the following bands, you were an asshole: ac/dc motorhead ramones humming rockaway beach, bobm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Apr 15 19:29:14 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:29:14 +0100 Subject: OFF: HTML & unsubscribing Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- > > programme and hey presto you open the email and your system can be hit. > > OK switching to digest mode from this email. > > Maybe this list need a moderator? Is somenone out there? Who could set > option to convert all html e-mails in text mode or just ban them. > > Alissa There is one! Ben Cohen is the moderator for the boc-l group and IMO does a brilliant job by remaining totally inconspicuous until you urgently request his help about something in connection with the mailing list at which point he responds immediately - such has been my experience! A code to strip out html would be beautiful since it's only there that the problem lies. It would enable anything the sender wishes to say to be read easily, simply and without clutter which would benefit the sender, the reader and almost everybody in between. However I suspect that this is impossible to do because it would also strip out loads of other much more useful coding which would mean that no mail would get through at all. Which would be sad. So in the meantime I guess we just rely on people being considerate and I'm sure that most people, in the long run, are. Glad you are staying Richard! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From ben at TMK.COM Sun Apr 15 19:55:00 2001 From: ben at TMK.COM (Ben Cohen) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:55:00 -0400 Subject: ADMIN: HTML restricted... Message-ID: Hi folks, [Thanks to Jill for her nice words, even if they were completely true. :-)] I've updated the BOC-L list header to restrict HTML attachments. Please note that this will not fix any situation where a user's mail program sends HTML as the core text of the message (or embeds HTML in the regular message). If you get any mail messages, like that, please send mail to both myself (use ben at tmk.com) and to the person who sent the mail message. Hopefully, I'll be able to work with that subscriber to get things fixed for everyone. Also, if you start getting rejections that you think are in error, please get in touch with me directly and I can try to figure out what's going on. We now return you to your regularly scheduled mailing list, YnSSHM, Ben From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Apr 15 23:12:58 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:12:58 EDT Subject: hey ho, let's go: sad news Message-ID: In a message dated 4/15/01 7:18:26 PM, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes: << sorry to report to those who havent already heard: joey ramone has passed away. i don't have any details other than last month he was diagnosed with cancer of the thyroid, fast and inoperable. >> =========== "better than orange juice!" ....in regards to blasting the new, 1st ramones lp every morning, mid-76... == dunno what to say...maybe later. "<>" From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Mon Apr 16 04:18:32 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:18:32 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: hey ho, let's go: sad news In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sad news. I'm glad I saw the man perform, even if it was in later days. If I could do anything to improve the world as much as he did with his music, I'd be a far better person than I am. Rock on, Joey. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Mon Apr 16 05:44:11 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:44:11 +1200 Subject: BOC/Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <200104160900.FAA25430@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Well its been three days now on the digest and this daily format has sorted out the problems of the background wallpapers that were freezing up the system. Thanks Ben for the speedy unsubscribe. Michael: you say delete it. Yeah ok ... so does that mean I delete every BOC/Hawkwind mail that comes in? ... because I don't know which ones have the wallpaper until that particular email comes on the screen. So originally I knew the wallpaper was coming from Mr Eyre and yes I could immediately delete that message. But then people start hitting their reply buttons leaving the wallpaper on and their new message (if you can call some of them messages) so now we have wallpaper everywhere. Your a computer savvy guy use your head. Sorry if I'm grouchy because I am grouchy right now. Urban Guerilla would best sum up how I feel towards the world at present although its not bad enough to call out the Flying Doctor. (yeah ok bad puns) Jill: thanks for the support. I guess I'd better talk about something Hawkwind. Haven't got a lot to say except I really enjoyed the experience of meeting and hanging out with the band during their 6 week visit of NZ back in early 2000. Dave & Kris and the crew it was a pleasure meeting you and I hope your memories of the visit here are the good ones being remembered. Dave: They had a jazz and blues festival in Raglan over Easter and I'm sure the locals of Raglan would love to see you one day as a resident of the town ;) Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Mon Apr 16 06:42:18 2001 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:42:18 +0200 Subject: Hawkon video Message-ID: I've got a ultra rare 3-hours!! copy. e-mail me privately. best wishes filip hawknut ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair Lee Sumner" To: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 8:41 PM Subject: Hawkon video > Hi, does anyone know if it is still possible to buy or get hold of the > video made at the Hawkwind convention in 1984 or 85 in Manchester. A very > young version of me was there and I'd love to watch the video again. > > Regards, > Alastair. From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Apr 16 07:00:53 2001 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:00:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph In-Reply-To: <002301c0c5b2$ab0b02d0$36d13bcb@xl5jji166w6xlq> Message-ID: Hello all, Digging around in the attic this morning, I came across an old Earth Ritual programme which I had autographed by Dave, Huw and someone else. I am trying to identify who this mystery person is. It is difficult to work out the letters but the first name looks like "Gim" and the second like "Ne something something". Is anyone familiar with the band's autographs to be able to identify this? Would there be any objection if I attached a small scan of the autograph and sent it to the list? Finally, the biggest joke in the programme is the inside-back cover promotion for the support act "Bronz" and their album "Taken By Storm" (!). Such a nice bunch of lads, all beautifully permed, wearing their standard HM outfits, probably borrowed from the Bronze Records wardrobe department and looking appropriately mean and moody. It says at the bottom, "For further information on Bronz, write to:-" No thanks! Sheesh, the things we used to listen to! Mark From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 16 08:33:43 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:33:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkon vid (Nic Potter etc) Message-ID: Not the Hawkon video, I did the Nic Potter interview - which was a bit surreal. Was my voice that high back then (now dropping into Tommy Vance mode). I've got some nice pics from then...I may put them up one day, some may be in circulation as did a trade once. Dave From nick at NETPHD.NET Mon Apr 16 07:52:40 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:52:40 -0400 Subject: hey ho, let's go: sad news In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Joey's death was a pretty fast and surprising thing, as far as I can tell. News of his lymphoma only started to surface about a month ago, and I don't think he was diagnosed too long before that. This is one of those rare instances where the music world has lost someone truly unique. There was no one like him before, and only weak imitations after. But before we fans get any crazy ideas, let us remember Joey's own words: "I don't wanna be buried in a Pet Sematary I don't want to live my life again." --Nick From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 16 09:00:03 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (The Devil) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:00:03 -0600 Subject: hey ho, let's go: sad news In-Reply-To: <200104161152.HAA27578@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: I bet Lemmy gets REEEELY "Pissed", and sheds a few tear droplets into his beer..... might not even get to the RAINBOW today??? hope 'daddy' is doing OK with the news!!!!! looney Mick C From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 16 09:27:28 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (The Devil) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:27:28 -0600 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision In-Reply-To: <3AD93C09.1BBF10C5@petronet.net> Message-ID: Capt. Black said: "If only Astounding Sounds had been a well produced studio double album, think what a classic that would have been." I'd like to spout off here: I have had the pleasure of speaking with Keith privately about our record (actual LP) collections...... in the process of that insanity, I have come to learn that he is Extremely well versed in all things recording, music, playback, etc,...... I am sure he was just saying 'everything to 11, and more is better'.....(or something sort of like that)(like a whole extra LP??) (gatefold?) his knowledge of the recording processes used in those days may mean he knows something "we" didn't........but I am sure he didn't really "knock" it love love love, ta da da "all you need is love"..."everybody"....etc. etc. Mike Coleman From bart at ENGAGE.NU Mon Apr 16 09:00:51 2001 From: bart at ENGAGE.NU (Bart Brugmans) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:00:51 +0200 Subject: hey ho, let's go: sad news In-Reply-To: <200104161152.HAA27578@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: He ho, that's weird, Joe dead. I just saw Dee Dee Ramone last night and is was a big party, nothing about Joe being dead. --BArt From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Mon Apr 16 09:13:46 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:13:46 -0400 Subject: gig reminders/ acoustic Sloterdijk Tonight and Saturday, FREE!!!! Message-ID: For those of you in the greater Philadelphia area, we welcome you to join us tonight at "Fergie's Pub", 1214 Sansom Street, Philadelphia, PA (215) 928-8118 ( This is an open mic event, so come early and bring an instrument if you like) www.fergies.com sign up begins around 7:30 PM, and we try our best to get a fairly early slot!!! Highlights tonight will include new acoustic renditions of "Astronomy" (Blue Oyster Cult), and "Golden Void" (Hawkwind) If you can't make tonight's show, then consider participating in our next event this coming Saturday, April 21rst; the open jam night at "The Drums and Space Place" of "The Grenstreet Ice Cream Cafe and Coffeehouse". Event should begin about 7:30 PM House # 893 South Broad Street, Trenton, New Jersey, (directly across the street from the ice cream/coffeehouse) contact: (609) 394-1969 e-mail: joe-pop at msn.com Cheers, MIke Burro (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Apr 16 09:33:19 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:33:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: Thank you Mike. Astounding ISN'T a bad album at all, BUT the point I was making here was if they'd used Time For Sale, Uncle Sam, Back on the Streets, Assassins etc on the same album as Steppenwolf, Reefer Madness and, yes, all the cool instrumentals............ The production lacks balls - the band certainly didn't as the live material will testify. Maybe that was Rudolph doing his Eno-esque mixes. Armchair Hawkwind, anybody? And yes, gatefold artwork. Case closed, M'lud. ----- Original Message ----- From: The Devil To: Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:27 PM Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > Capt. Black said: > > "If only Astounding Sounds had been a well produced studio double album, think > what a classic that would have been." > > > I'd like to spout off here: > > I have had the pleasure of speaking with Keith privately about our record > (actual LP) collections...... > > in the process of that insanity, I have come to learn that he is Extremely > well versed in all things recording, music, playback, etc,...... > > I am sure he was just saying 'everything to 11, and more is better'.....(or > something sort of like that)(like a whole extra LP??) (gatefold?) > > his knowledge of the recording processes used in those days may mean he > knows something "we" didn't........but I am sure he didn't really "knock" it > > > love love love, ta da da "all you need is love"..."everybody"....etc. etc. > > Mike Coleman > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Apr 16 09:43:33 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:43:33 -0400 Subject: OFF: HTML & unsubscribing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Richard Stockwell wrote: => Well after a couple of nice emails (thanks Jill & Mike H) I've resubscribed => to the BOC/Hawkwind list but under digest mode to hopefully filter out the => background wallpaper that flashes and blinks and jams everything up .... not => all the time but sometimes. What you need to be aware of in using html in [...] => OK switching to digest mode from this email. And, now in digest mode, you'll get to appreciate those kind, considerate souls who simply include *all* of the text to which they're replying in their BOC-L postings, and add a line or two of "content" ("Me too!"; "Yeah, d00d!", etc.) at the top. So, trade annoying HTML for getting to read the same content several times over and over in the same digest... Cheers, Paul. PS: The punishment in Hell for those people should be to be subscribed to the Britney Spears/Boy Bands mailing list in digest mode, with the ability to scroll only one line at a time... >:-) e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 16 10:45:30 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:45:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: Is there a studio version of Robot or Uncle Sam in the vaults? Here's hoping! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 16 April 2001 14:34 Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision >Thank you Mike. Astounding ISN'T a bad album at all, BUT the point I was >making here was if they'd used Time For Sale, Uncle Sam, Back on the >Streets, Assassins etc on the same album as Steppenwolf, Reefer Madness and, >yes, all the cool instrumentals............ > >The production lacks balls - the band certainly didn't as the live material >will testify. Maybe that was Rudolph doing his Eno-esque mixes. Armchair >Hawkwind, anybody? > >And yes, gatefold artwork. > >Case closed, M'lud. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: The Devil >To: >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:27 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > > >> Capt. Black said: >> >> "If only Astounding Sounds had been a well produced studio double album, >think >> what a classic that would have been." >> >> >> I'd like to spout off here: >> >> I have had the pleasure of speaking with Keith privately about our record >> (actual LP) collections...... >> >> in the process of that insanity, I have come to learn that he is Extremely >> well versed in all things recording, music, playback, etc,...... >> >> I am sure he was just saying 'everything to 11, and more is >better'.....(or >> something sort of like that)(like a whole extra LP??) (gatefold?) >> >> his knowledge of the recording processes used in those days may mean he >> knows something "we" didn't........but I am sure he didn't really "knock" >it >> >> >> love love love, ta da da "all you need is love"..."everybody"....etc. etc. >> >> Mike Coleman >> > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 16 10:48:33 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:48:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Production Message-ID: My top three best produced releases: Quark Levitation Warrior Dave From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 16 11:15:57 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:15:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: ASAM - an album that improves with the years. In contrast to Masques. Here's a question: which HW album hasn't stood the test of time? IMHO: Masques/Church (Space Bandits wasn't good at the time!) Dave -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 16 April 2001 14:34 Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision >Thank you Mike. Astounding ISN'T a bad album at all, BUT the point I was >making here was if they'd used Time For Sale, Uncle Sam, Back on the >Streets, Assassins etc on the same album as Steppenwolf, Reefer Madness and, >yes, all the cool instrumentals............ > >The production lacks balls - the band certainly didn't as the live material >will testify. Maybe that was Rudolph doing his Eno-esque mixes. Armchair >Hawkwind, anybody? > >And yes, gatefold artwork. > >Case closed, M'lud. > > > From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 16 10:34:02 2001 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:34:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall > ASAM - an album that improves with the years. In contrast to Masques. > Here's a question: which HW album hasn't stood the test of time? > > IMHO: Masques/Church (Space Bandits wasn't good at the time!) > > Dave As an album least likely to listen to: The first one, which I've always found pretty difficult to get my head around. Nice that people are re-evaluating ASAM though, my long time favourite HW album. As discussed previously, in retrospect it seems to form the template for a lot of IITBOTFTBD? Ian From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Apr 16 11:05:01 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:05:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Production In-Reply-To: <003201c0c684$502bbbc0$c453893e@default> Message-ID: In message <003201c0c684$502bbbc0$c453893e at default>, david hall writes >My top three best produced releases: > >Quark >Levitation >Warrior Yeah... the live tracks on PXR5 sound pretty good too: good balance of power and subtlety. And what about Palace Springs? Superb production job on that. -- Nick Medford From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Mon Apr 16 12:25:30 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:25:30 -0400 Subject: Residents Dates Message-ID: I'll be going to the UCLA show. I'll post a review afterwards. Dr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Nick Medford [SMTP:nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 4:03 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Residents Dates May be of interest to some here. Anyone planning to go to the London show, email me offlist if you want to arrange a meet, as I suspect I'll be going it alone. ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Residents fans, friends, fiends, and flabby breezyholes... Just a note to let you know about certain eyeball news... For those in So.Cal, we'll see you May 25th at Royce Hall (at UCLA) for the Icky Flicks Residents tour stop - if you've read the Smelly Tongues reviews, you know it's not to be missed... and for our friends across the Atlantic, here's some Europe travel plans... 4.6. D-Moers, Internationales Jazz-Festival 5.6 (TBA) 6.6. CH-Genf, L'Usine 7.6. NL-Amsterdam, Paradiso 8.6. B-Antwerpen, Hof Ter Loo 9.6. UK-London, Queen Elizabeth Hall We've also just received the EuroRalph Digipak version of the Icky Flix CD soundtrack, so for you completists, stop by the site (http://www.ralphamerica.com) and pick up yer copy today... -- Nick Medford From christmu at EUNET.NO Mon Apr 16 12:50:10 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:50:10 +0200 Subject: OFF: two questions Message-ID: Maybe this is more newsgroup related stuff but I'll post the questions here on BOC-L anyway... I wish to purchase Mooseheart Faith Stellar Groove Band's "Mass Coronal Injection" on CD. I know Forced Exposure carry it but I no longer use credit cards. Anyone on this list (Andy G?) who could point me in the right direction? I need to reacquire a copy of Jim Jones & The Kool-Ade Kids - "...Trust Us"/"Contrafusion" on one CD. Can't remember the label. Sold my old copy along with about another 300 CDs during an economic drought... I know nothing of this band other than the CD which I used to own though there is a Jim Jones Experience on mp3.com which may be an offshoot. Can anyone help? Thanks, Chr. ObTrack: Bathory - Armageddon "Mass culture was created for the purpose of Transmigration through mass Technology." The Temple of The Blasphemers of Sodom: http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/tubrok.html From christmu at EUNET.NO Mon Apr 16 12:56:37 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:56:37 +0200 Subject: OFF: Joey Ramone R.I.P. Message-ID: look here for more news: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010415/en/obit_ramone.html Chr. ObCD: Black Sabbath - Master of Reality "Mass culture was created for the purpose of Transmigration through mass Technology." The Temple of The Blasphemers of Sodom: http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/tubrok.html From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 16 14:47:17 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:47:17 +0100 Subject: The Never Ending Story Of The Psychedelic Warlords CD question Message-ID: I believe it is Leicester de Montfort Hall, November 5th 1990. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Edmonds" To: Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 10:27 AM Subject: The Never Ending Story Of The Psychedelic Warlords CD question > Hi all, > > Just a quick question: the CD which came with the above titled book says > "Live in space 1990" but doesn't give the exact recording date and > location. Do we know what this is please? > > TIA, > > Mark > From nick at NETPHD.NET Mon Apr 16 15:18:42 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:18:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: Joey Ramone, Purple, Skynyrd Message-ID: The solo album Joey Ramone was working on at the time of his death is expected to be released before the end of the year. Ironically, it'll probably get more attention thanks to his death. UNRELATED NEWS: Deep Purple and Lynyrd Skynyrd are launching a co-headlining U.S. tour this summer. Unfortunately, Ted Nugent is opening, so I'd suggest showing up about 75 minutes late. Dates are available in the news section of VH1.com --Nick From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Mon Apr 16 15:22:16 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:22:16 -0400 Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph Message-ID: I've got autographs from the Hawkwind line-up at that time and from some of the old members so I might be able to identify it if it is similar to one of mine. You didn't go to the Liverpool Empire Earth Ritual gig did you? I am trying to identify a Hawkwind poster which I think was for the Earth Ritual in Liverpool. The promoter on the poster is Kennedy Street Enterprises which I also remember from the ticket. It is a simple Hawkwind logo in red with a green background. Bronz were crap ;) Regards, Alastair. On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:00:53 +0100, Mark Edmonds wrote: >Hello all, > >Digging around in the attic this morning, I came across an old Earth >Ritual programme which I had autographed by Dave, Huw and someone else. >I am trying to identify who this mystery person is. > >It is difficult to work out the letters but the first name looks like >"Gim" and the second like "Ne something something". Is anyone familiar >with the band's autographs to be able to identify this? Would there be >any objection if I attached a small scan of the autograph and sent it to >the list? > >Finally, the biggest joke in the programme is the inside-back cover >promotion for the support act "Bronz" and their album "Taken By Storm" >(!). Such a nice bunch of lads, all beautifully permed, wearing their >standard HM outfits, probably borrowed from the Bronze Records wardrobe >department and looking appropriately mean and moody. It says at the >bottom, "For further information on Bronz, write to:-" No thanks! >Sheesh, the things we used to listen to! > >Mark From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Apr 16 15:35:38 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:35:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph Message-ID: the only person i can think off that own that autograph is ginger baker if it was during hawkwinds time with bronze records?? cheers colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Edmonds" To: Sent: 16 April 2001 12:00 Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph > Hello all, > > Digging around in the attic this morning, I came across an old Earth > Ritual programme which I had autographed by Dave, Huw and someone else. > I am trying to identify who this mystery person is. > > It is difficult to work out the letters but the first name looks like > "Gim" and the second like "Ne something something". Is anyone familiar > with the band's autographs to be able to identify this? Would there be > any objection if I attached a small scan of the autograph and sent it to > the list? > > Finally, the biggest joke in the programme is the inside-back cover > promotion for the support act "Bronz" and their album "Taken By Storm" > (!). Such a nice bunch of lads, all beautifully permed, wearing their > standard HM outfits, probably borrowed from the Bronze Records wardrobe > department and looking appropriately mean and moody. It says at the > bottom, "For further information on Bronz, write to:-" No thanks! > Sheesh, the things we used to listen to! > > Mark > From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Mon Apr 16 15:35:40 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:35:40 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkon vid (Nic Potter etc) Message-ID: Let me know where and when you put the pics up. It would be much appreciated. I don't remember too much from Hawkwon, just getting laughed at for asking how much some of the really rare not for sale stuff was (I was only 14) and talking to Dead Fred said f**k after every other word but was very friendly. Regards, Alastair. On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:33:43 +0100, david hall wrote: >Not the Hawkon video, I did the Nic Potter interview - which was a bit surreal. Was my voice that high back then (now dropping into Tommy Vance mode). I've got some nice pics from then...I may put them up one day, some may be in circulation as did a trade once. > >Dave From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Apr 16 17:10:44 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:10:44 -0400 Subject: OFF: Blackmore's [K]night In-Reply-To: ; from cea@CARLAZ.COM on Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 11:26:26AM +0100 Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 11:26:26AM +0100, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Pseudo-folk with a New-Agish shine to it Very pseudo. It's the kind of bland stuff that gives folk music a bad name. And only occasional flashes of Blackmore-ness to relieve the boredom. > and pleasant enough if one > likes to visit such things on occasion. Give me Eliza Carthy, or Steeleye Span, or the Rankin Family, or Rare Air, or The New St. George, or, or... > (How did that old bastard > acquire _her_!? :) Same way as Mr. Kilmister always seems to manage :-/ > Ian Anderson guested on a track on one of the previous albums :) Now if Dave Pegg could convince him to guest on a Fairports album. (Apparently he's done so live, eg. at a couple of Cropredy's) ... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Apr 16 18:20:02 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:20:02 EDT Subject: OFF: Used to be Space Rock; What is it? Now Farflung Message-ID: In a message dated 4/15/01 10:19:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > 1.Solar Electric/Open Yr Mouth > > 2.Don't Forget to Breathe > > 3.title track > > 4. and 5. Greater Waters (pts one and two, perhaps) > > 6.Landing on Cydonia > > 7.Hot Fluffy Mind > > I always figured `Solar Electric' to be the two-part track on > there. `Open Your Mouth', identifiable as such by the vocals, is tracked > as No. 2 on my copy. RU absolutely sure?? This is the regular Flipside disc, I assume, with the quiet out-put, etc... Every copy I've seen has the above tendencies... Or are you reckoning the latter part of No. 1 as part > of `Open Your Mouth' rather than `Solar Electric'? On my copy, birds twitter at the end of SE, then OYM kicks in (obvious from the lyrics, as you said), while the track still reads #1. I mean it like it is...like it sounds... :) Because the riffs are > different... Although there's no reason why one song couldn't have two > riffs even on a space-rock album :-) I just don't see any real reason to > suppose that the tracking's awry, I think it's meant to be like > that. Certainly I wouldn't split up `Greater Waters', it only makes sense > all together! My opinion only of course, yours, > Jon I wouldn't either! It's the tracking on the disc that insists on this! :) > ObCD: Orbital - brown album > -- not like it matters or anything...just whiling away the time... But when I interview Grenas, I'll try to get the scoop on the Raven tracking, which i know we all agree on... Chuck NP: Ashra Tempel: "Join Inn" From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Apr 16 18:42:42 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:42:42 +0100 Subject: hey ho, let's go: sad news Message-ID: Here in the UK, the first person ever to play the Ramones on the radio was DJ John Peel and I was listening that first night he played, I think the single and then the final two segied tracks off the first album. Even though UK punk was arriving 'en masse' at the time, this blew like a hurricane through everything else and you can't imagine the effect of hearing that for the first time AT THAT TIME coming post-prog - a case of 'whoooaaahhhh - what the.......' Yeh - never was anything like that since altho'a few came very close, although not too sure if the person here who said 'musical genius' was tonhue in cheek or what - don't think he'd have been flattered to have been called that because after all,that is the very reason they existed - to blast away musical genius and just create fantastic dumb-assed rock 'n' roll. MUch missed, as usual with all the dead 'uns, Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert C. Mayo To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 12:17 AM Subject: hey ho, let's go: sad news sorry to report to those who havent already heard: joey ramone has passed away. i don' thave any details other than last month he was diagnosed with cancer of the thyroid, fast and inoperable. i thank the ramones for showing me that less is more; that there can be great depth in simplicity; that loud rock music is SUPPOSED TO BE FUN, and FUNNY; that perserverance is its own reward; and that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, that if you truly have something of value to say, that message will never age. the passing of a true legend and musical genius. i always thought that if you didn't like at least one of the following bands, you were an asshole: ac/dc motorhead ramones humming rockaway beach, bobm From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Apr 16 18:57:42 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:57:42 +0100 Subject: HW/BOC: anniual clear out Message-ID: Is it that time again already - spring cleaning as we say over here - well, as part of my tape cupboard check-out, for HW people and BOC people, in my annual clear out I have original tapes of the following that I am turfing out: Hawkwind - Lyceum Ballroom 13-7-80 Manchester Plaza 10-2-85 Brighton 5-12-79 Sheffield University 2-82 Southampton Top Rank 4-8-87 Blue Oyster Cult-New York 1981 Chicago 10-12-79 Joe Louis Arena Detroit 3-72 Live In The USA (that's what it says on the side of the thing but I was once by the guy who originally gave it to me that it was Seattle & Oregon 75 but sounds like one gig to me). Anyway, I don't have time these days for regular trading but if anyone has any lists of anything more '90's then interested to hear, otherwise free to a good home for postage costs only. Quality is great on most of them - all are my originals from whatever source (the ones from the record fayres of old have nice neat copied covers - whoppee!!). Interested - then e.mail me at: andygee at dial.pipex.com Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Edmonds" To: Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 12:00 PM Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph > Hello all, > > Digging around in the attic this morning, I came across From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Apr 16 19:05:00 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:05:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: two questions Message-ID: will have to check it out in the office tomorrow so will get back to you - pretty sure we could do Mooseheart but not sure about the other - will let you know, OK. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "christmu at eunet.no" To: Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 5:50 PM Subject: OFF: two questions > Maybe this is more newsgroup related stuff but I'll post the questions here > on BOC-L anyway... > > I wish to purchase Mooseheart Faith Stellar Groove Band's "Mass Coronal > Injection" on CD. I know Forced Exposure carry it but I no longer use > credit cards. Anyone on this list (Andy G?) who could point me in the right > direction? > > I need to reacquire a copy of Jim Jones & The Kool-Ade Kids - "...Trust > Us"/"Contrafusion" on one CD. Can't remember the > > > "Mass culture was created for the purpose of Transmigration > through mass Technology." > > The Temple of The Blasphemers of Sodom: > http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/tubrok.html From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Apr 16 19:21:59 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:21:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Purple, Skynyrd In-Reply-To: <200104161918.PAA06341@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: >UNRELATED NEWS: Deep Purple and Lynyrd Skynyrd are >launching a co-headlining U.S. tour this summer. >Unfortunately, Ted Nugent is opening, so I'd suggest >showing up about 75 minutes late. I only saw Ted Nugent once, but he played a great, rocking set! (He was supporting Skynyrd, as it happens, and blew off the stage, actually, but that's because their mix was totally fucked up -- they might have been great, who knows? Couldn't hear a darned thing ...). Cheers, Carl ObCDR: some random Dead show from 73ish. -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Apr 16 19:31:36 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:31:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: not Blackmore's [K]night In-Reply-To: <20010416171044.C27046@telepres.com> Message-ID: At 17:10 -0400 16.04.2001, Eric Siegerman wrote: >Give me Eliza Carthy, or Steeleye Span, or the Rankin Family, or >Rare Air, or The New St. George, or, or... Not that some of those artists play material that's _so_ traditional, but ... Rare Air! Now there was a band (for at least a couple of albums). New St. George, were cool (if not overly trad), and named after a top song :) Steeleye need no introduction, but I saw one of the dates on the US mini-tour last year and they rocked stupendously. Tim Harries' move to the guitar spot gave them balls of basalt! Best "Thomas the Rhymer" I've ever heard, and a bunch of other stuff. I should get _Bedlam Born_, really. I gather they're carrying on now that Gay Woods has left (didn't like all those maudlin Irish songs she warbled anyway) and more power to them. >> Ian Anderson guested on a track on one of the previous albums :) > >Now if Dave Pegg could convince him to guest on a Fairports album. >(Apparently he's done so live, eg. at a couple of Cropredy's) ... In '89, at least, as best as I recall (with the inimitable and inutterably awesome Martin Barre in tow). That material was released on the _The Third Leg_ cassette set, which is due to see CD release this summer, I hear. Mind you, I've been paying more attention to the Scandinavian folk-rock scene than the UK folk-rock scene the last couple of years. Must remember to catch Gjallarhorn (with the unreasonably attractive and talented Jenny Wilhelms!) at one of their UK festival appearances this summer (not the Cambridge festival, alas). Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Apr 16 19:49:56 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:49:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: not Blackmore's [K]night In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Carl Edlund Anderson writes >>> Ian Anderson guested on a track on one of the previous albums :) >> >>Now if Dave Pegg could convince him to guest on a Fairports album. >>(Apparently he's done so live, eg. at a couple of Cropredy's) ... > >In '89, at least, as best as I recall (with the inimitable and >inutterably awesome Martin Barre in tow). That material was released >on the _The Third Leg_ cassette set, which is due to see CD release >this summer, I hear. I'm sure you're right, but Tull definitely played Cropredy in '87 too- I'm confident about the year 'cos it's the only time I went. Despite this, I recently received a flyer for this year's bash, which closed with the words "and special guests... but we're not tulling you who they are"- so expect to see Anderson and co. there again this August. -- Nick Medford From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 16 19:57:03 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:57:03 -0400 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:33:19 +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >Thank you Mike. Astounding ISN'T a bad album at all, BUT the point I was >making here was if they'd used Time For Sale, Uncle Sam, Back on the >Streets, Assassins etc on the same album as Steppenwolf, Reefer Madness >and, yes, all the cool instrumentals............ Would it be more accurate to say a "second album by the Rudolph/Powell lineup" rather than "ASAM as a double LP"? (Since clearly some of those songs hadn't been written yet when ASAM was recorded - 'Atomhenge 76' makes it clear that the lyrics to "Hassan i Sahba" weren't written until after that tour.) I wholeheartedly agree that those four songs should have been on a studio album together; heck, that probably edges out 'Earth Ritual' as my favorite never-recorded-but-might-have-been/almost-was Hawkwind album. >The production lacks balls - the band certainly didn't as the live material >will testify. Maybe that was Rudolph doing his Eno-esque mixes. Armchair >Hawkwind, anybody? At least it's not as laid-back as the Hawklords album. (the one which I generally referred to as "armchair"; and the live recordings by *that* band kick ass, too) Now, if Paul Rudolph could have actually gotten Eno to *produce* it - wow! That could have really been something! I think that the main problem with ASAM is not that it's at all a bad album ("Steppenwolf" is one of Calvert's best characterizations, "Kadu Flyer" is one of Nik's best, "City of Lagoons" perfectly captures the lazy, swampy, overbearingly-tropical mood of Ballard's 'The Drowned World' [quite obviously the inspiration for the piece], etc.), but rather that it falls between two of the best albums in Hawkwind's career ... in much the same way that Rudolph's bass playing is underrated since he fell between the two best bassists in Hawkwind's career (and also because, as good as his bass playing is, it doesn't come CLOSE to his six-string work with the Pink Fairies on stuff like "Uncle Harry's Last Freakout"). The diversity of bass playing on 'Atomhenge 76' is unquestionably impressive, but never quite matches either Lemmy's propulsive overdrive or Adrian Shaw's warmly melodic feel that fit so well with Simon House's keyboards. -Doug ceres at sirius.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: The Devil >To: >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:27 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > > >> Capt. Black said: >> >> "If only Astounding Sounds had been a well produced studio double >> album, think what a classic that would have been." From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 16 20:00:06 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:00:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: not Blackmore's [K]night Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:31:36 +0100, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >Mind you, I've been paying more attention to the Scandinavian >folk-rock scene than the UK folk-rock scene the last couple of years. >Must remember to catch Gjallarhorn (with the unreasonably attractive >and talented Jenny Wilhelms!) at one of their UK festival appearances >this summer (not the Cambridge festival, alas). Algarnas Tradgard? (Did I spell that remotely correctly?) At least as "folk" as 'The Faust Tapes' were folk ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Mon Apr 16 20:21:05 2001 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:21:05 -0400 Subject: Farflung and Pink Faries Message-ID: Just noticed that Farflung and Pink Faries are playing the Club Spaceland in Los Angeles on Friday, April 27th. Should be a great show. Dr. Dan From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Apr 16 19:33:45 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:33:45 -0400 Subject: Farflung and Pink Faries Message-ID: DD says... >Just noticed that Farflung and Pink Faries are playing the Club Spaceland >in Los Angeles on Friday, April 27th. Ummm...cool. Are they (PF) touring nationwide? Didn't find much online and Larry Wallis' site (www.pinkfairies.co.uk) hasn't been updated since December. What is the current availability of their early works (on CD), like Never Neverland and Kings of Oblivion? I remember that the latter at least is not so easy to get (at least cheaply). Anybody know a good semi-inexpensive source for either? Who's the current band? Could early Motorhead (like On Parole) be incorporated into a PF set? Or is it? Thanks...Grakkl (FAA) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Apr 16 21:11:37 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:11:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: not Blackmore's [K]night In-Reply-To: <63whTBAkU426Ewlp@hermit0.demon.co.uk>; from nick@HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:49:56AM +0100 Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:49:56AM +0100, Nick Medford wrote: > In message , Carl Edlund Anderson > writes > >>Now if Dave Pegg could convince him to guest on a Fairports album. > >>(Apparently he's done so live, eg. at a couple of Cropredy's) ... > > > >In '89, at least, as best as I recall (with the inimitable and > >inutterably awesome Martin Barre in tow). > > I'm sure you're right, but Tull definitely played Cropredy in '87 too- I'm > confident about the year 'cos it's the only time I went. Both right; I only mentioned it 'cause I'd just done a web search that turned up both those fests. >Despite this, I > recently received a flyer for this year's bash, which closed with the words > "and special guests... but we're not tulling you who they are"- so expect to > see Anderson and co. there again this August. Oooo, this'd be cool. Now if only the HW fest manages to happen, and be the week before Cropredy, I could go to them both! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 16 21:12:28 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:12:28 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farflung and Pink Faries Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:33:45 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >DD says... >>Just noticed that Farflung and Pink Faries are playing the Club Spaceland >>in Los Angeles on Friday, April 27th. > >Ummm...cool. Are they (PF) touring nationwide? Didn't find much online >and Larry Wallis' site (www.pinkfairies.co.uk) hasn't been updated since >December. No, this is the band that probably has Lazza seeing twelve different shades of purple without the aid of hallucinogens. It's Twink, backed by the LA punk/hardrock band Backbiter. (The drummer for Backbiter is Bob Lee, who played with Slotnick on the Hawkwind tribute album, and was in Mike Watt's backing band for at least a couple tours; he kicks ass!) I think they're technically supposed to call themselves "Twink's L.A. Pink Fairies" or something like that ... (sound familiar?) ... >What is the current availability of their early works (on CD), like Never >Neverland and Kings of Oblivion? I remember that the latter at least is >not so easy to get (at least cheaply). 'Kings of Oblivion' has been reissued in the UK by Voiceprint; I've seen it in local stores. The first two albums ('Never Neverland' and 'What A Bunch Of Sweeties') are STILL out-of-print everywhere (there were expensive CD's available on Japanese Polydor in the early 90's, but those are long gone). >Anybody know a good semi-inexpensive source for either? Does the Artist Shop carry 'Kings' in their catalog of Voiceprint stuff? >Who's the current band? Could early Motorhead (like On Parole) be >incorporated into a PF set? Or is it? You certainly won't hear "On Parole" or "City Kids" from this version of the Pink Fairies (don't forget that "On Parole" was the B-side of "Police Car", the Larry Wallis solo single on Stiff). If we're talking Wallis- composed Motorhead songs, I wanna hear "Vibrator" (complete with solo, of course!). While we're on the subject, has anyone in the UK seen the (I think it's called) 'Masters Series' CD by the Pink Fairies on Polydor that has four tracks - both sides of both the "Snake"/"Do It" and "Well Well Well"/"Hold On" singles? That's something I could really use a copy of since three of those are non-LP tracks (OK, two of them are on that old late-70s compilation, but "Hold On" has never been available ANYWHERE else except the original 7"). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Mon Apr 16 21:36:14 2001 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:36:14 EDT Subject: hey ho, let's go: sad news Message-ID: In a message dated 4/16/01 3:41:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: > Yeh - never was anything like that since altho'a few came very close, > although not too sure if the person here who said 'musical genius' was > tonhue in cheek or what - don't think he'd have been flattered to have been > called that because after all,that is the very reason they existed - to > blast away musical genius and just create fantastic dumb-assed rock 'n' > roll. yes--and it took genius to do so during the musical climate of the time. imho. bobm From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Apr 17 02:19:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:49:45 +0930 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: Aren't they on PXR5? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:15 AM Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > Is there a studio version of Robot or Uncle Sam in the vaults? Here's > hoping! > > Dave From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Apr 17 02:18:12 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:18:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: Palace Springs - didn't stand the test of release IMHO. I hate to say it but that woman's voice really winds me - is it Bridgette Wishart - I can't remember. Interesting dancer but singing - really!! Just a small point - ASAM is one of my comfort albums - when life really does me in, it makes me feel warm and fuzzy - weird I guess but what can you do?? Sam -----Original Message----- From: david hall [mailto:dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK] Sent: 16 April 2001 16:16 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision ASAM - an album that improves with the years. In contrast to Masques. Here's a question: which HW album hasn't stood the test of time? IMHO: Masques/Church (Space Bandits wasn't good at the time!) Dave -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 16 April 2001 14:34 Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision >Thank you Mike. Astounding ISN'T a bad album at all, BUT the point I was >making here was if they'd used Time For Sale, Uncle Sam, Back on the >Streets, Assassins etc on the same album as Steppenwolf, Reefer Madness and, >yes, all the cool instrumentals............ > >The production lacks balls - the band certainly didn't as the live material >will testify. Maybe that was Rudolph doing his Eno-esque mixes. Armchair >Hawkwind, anybody? > >And yes, gatefold artwork. > >Case closed, M'lud. > > > *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Tue Apr 17 02:19:29 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:19:29 -0400 Subject: acoustic sloterdijk: setlist 4/16/01 Message-ID: Fergie's Pub, Philadelphia PA Tomorrow and Tonight Astronomy GoldenVoid>Uranium Zone "teaser" ( one verse plus monologe) The electric version of Uranium Zone has been uploaded to www.mp3.com/sloterdijk and should be approved within a few days. Special thanks to Michael Habiby for all his help...Cheers, very tired now and ready for last hits of the night... Peace, MIke www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Tue Apr 17 03:46:13 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:46:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision In-Reply-To: <713D870DA62FD311B03E00508B2C74D904AAA642@mast-lu0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: At 7:18 +0100 17.04.2001, Sam Kirwan wrote: >Palace Springs - didn't stand the test of release IMHO. No way! :) _Palace Springs_ rocks (despite Bridget :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Apr 17 04:00:55 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:00:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: Good Suggestions for London record Shops Message-ID: I'm doing a day shopping in London. Any good suggestions for good London record Shops? Ambient Soho is the first place I'm going because I know theyve got a sneaky little stockpile of Planet Dog stuff ;-) Rich W From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Apr 17 04:09:46 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:09:46 +0800 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: Sam said: > Just a small point - ASAM is one of my comfort albums - when life really > does me in, it makes me feel warm and fuzzy - weird I guess but what can you > do?? "Play it again, Sam." LOL I can remember when I first got ASAM, I thought WTF is this!! After playing SR, WotEoT, DoReMe and XISOS it was quite a bit disappointing. But like all good albums it grows on you. Kadu Flyer, Chronoglide Skyways, Steppenwolf and City of Lagoons are my favourite songs from the album. The Charisma period, IMO, is the best Hawkwind period. Nothing can beat the sheer brilliance of Quark, Strangeness and Charm. Bill From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Apr 17 04:15:30 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:15:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Good Suggestions for London record Shops In-Reply-To: <004d01c0c714$87a22e00$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: > Any good suggestions for good London record Shops? I always like Selectadisc in Berwick Street - satisfies most of my record-buying needs, good selection at reasonable prices, and the only place I've seen _Hawkwind Family Tree_ for sale - but I'm sure Mike will chip in with his fifty-strong list of second-hand shops ;) -- Andy ObCD: Neko Case and her Boyfriends - _Furnace Room Lullaby_ www.andygilham.com From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Tue Apr 17 04:06:20 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:06:20 +0200 Subject: OFF: Farflung and Pink Faries In-Reply-To: <200104170112.VAA29587@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: At 21:12 16-4-01 -0400, you wrote: >On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:33:45 -0400, K Henderson >wrote: >While we're on the subject, has anyone in the UK seen the (I think it's >called) 'Masters Series' CD by the Pink Fairies on Polydor that has four >tracks - both sides of both the "Snake"/"Do It" and "Well Well Well"/"Hold >On" singles? That's something I could really use a copy of since three of >those are non-LP tracks (OK, two of them are on that old late-70s >compilation, but "Hold On" has never been available ANYWHERE else except >the original 7"). > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com hi i'm not in the uk but very near and i do have a spare copy of the pink fairies master series. andre From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Apr 17 06:26:04 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:56:04 +0930 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: i AGREE THE ALBUM palace springs ROCKS However, I quite like the Vocals on Back in the box and the stuff she did on Space Bandits Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:16 PM Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > At 7:18 +0100 17.04.2001, Sam Kirwan wrote: > >Palace Springs - didn't stand the test of release IMHO. > > No way! :) _Palace Springs_ rocks (despite Bridget :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 17 07:00:37 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:00:37 +0100 Subject: Hawkon video In-Reply-To: Alastair Lee Sumner's message of Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:41:36 -0400 Message-ID: Alastair Lee Sumner writes: > Hi, does anyone know if it is still possible to buy or get hold of the > video made at the Hawkwind convention in 1984 or 85 in Manchester. A very > young version of me was there and I'd love to watch the video again. Twas Trev Hughes wot done it. You could contact him. Develop patience though. I'm still waiting on the one I ordered in 1988. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 17 07:03:24 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:03:24 +0100 Subject: unsubscribing In-Reply-To: Jill Strobridge's message of Fri, 13 Apr 2001 21:53:38 +0100 Message-ID: Jill Strobridge writes: > Hi Richard > > Sorry to hear that you have had to unsubscribe - I sympathise! It > is unfortunate so many messages come in with all the HTML tagging > attached and when I used to receive mail on a Unix mainframe I > invariably ended up deleting them without reading any of them at all > simply because they were completely UN-readable! I still receive email on unix and I do simply scrub messages with html tagging. I really oughta just do that in procmailrc so that I don't even need to actively do this. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 17 08:51:42 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:51:42 +0100 Subject: OFF: Good Suggestions for London record Shops In-Reply-To: Andy Gilham's message of Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:15:30 +0100 Message-ID: Andy Gilham writes: > > Any good suggestions for good London record Shops? > > I always like Selectadisc in Berwick Street - satisfies most of my > record-buying needs, good selection at reasonable prices, and the only place > I've seen _Hawkwind Family Tree_ for sale - but I'm sure Mike will chip in > with his fifty-strong list of second-hand shops ;) OK. Here it is. Some of these will no longer exist though and others should be added, so I invite the list to update the list... The list was originally written for use with a Zone 1-2 all day Tube pass. London Records Trail ===================== Start at Kings Cross -------------------- Metropolitan Line West to Ladbroke Grove ---------------------------------------- {cross to Portobello Road and turn left, checking market stalls} Honest Jon's, 278 Portobello Road Youngblood, 297 Postobello Road (almost opposite Honest Jon's) Vinyl Solution, 231 Portobello Road Plastic Passion, 2 Bleinheim Crescent (off Portobello Road) Rough Trade, 130 Talbot Road (off Portobello Road) {turn right at bottom of Portobello Road} Record & Tape Exchange, 28 Pembridge Road {turn right at end of Pembridge Road for Our Price} {turn left at end of Pembridge road for Book/CD shop and tube} => Notting Hill Gate District Line South to Kensington High Street --------------------------------------------- { commercial record shop on way to Tower records} Tower Records, 62-64 Kensington High Street {Other side 51 Kensington High street is a market} => Kensington High Street District Line South to Wimbledon -------------------------------- Big Star, 130 The Broadway {walk down the Broadway and Merton Road to South Wimbledon Tube} => South Wimbledon Northern Line NorthEast to Balham --------------------------------- Magic Mixture Records, 31 Bedford Hill Record Corner, 27 Bedford Hill => Balham Northern Line NorthEast to Clapham Common ----------------------------------------- Zippo Music, 39 Clapham Common => Clapham Common Northern Line Northeast to Angel -------------------------------- Our Price in Upper Street Reckless Records, 79 Upper Street => Angel Northern Line NorthWest to Camden Town -------------------------------------- Camden Market, Camden High Street Out on The Floor, 234 Camden High Street Rhythm Records, 281 Camden High Street Record & Tape Exchange, 229 Camden High Street Rock On, 3 Kentish Town Road Vinyl Experience, 3 Buck Street (Near camden Market) => Camden Town Tube Northern Line South to Leicester Square --------------------------------------- {Walk up on left on Charing Cross Road towards Tottenham Court Road} {Turn left before Shaftesbury Avenue for Steve Sounds in a back Street} {Turn left on Shaftesbury avenue then right on Rupert Street} Cheapo, Cheapo Records, 53 Rupert Street {Head up Rupert Street, checking market into Berwick Street} Reckless Records, 30 Berwick Street Cross from Berwick Street to Wardour Street {St Anne's Court is a small lane between wardour St and Dean St} Shades Records Basement, 12 St Anne's Court {Head up Dean Street into Oxford Street} Virgin, 8-16 Oxford Street {Go to end of Oxford St, Turn left up Tottenham court Road} Our Price, on left {Turn left around here for Hanway Street} Vinyl Experience, 20 Hanway Street On The Beat, 22 Hanway Street Rocks Off. 36 Hanway Street {Back into Oxford Street, turn right} HMV Main Branch, 150 Oxford Street {keep going on Oxford Street towards Marble Arch} HMV in Oxford St near Marble Arch => Marble Arch Central Line East to Oxford Circus Change for Bakerloo Line South for Picadilly Circus --------------------------------------------------- Tower Records has entrance in Tube Station {Cross to Coventry Street for Our Price near Trocadero Centre} => Picadilly Circus to finish. From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Apr 17 08:59:56 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:59:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: Good Suggestions for London record Shops In-Reply-To: <200104171251.NAA28875@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Shades Records Basement, 12 St Anne's Court Shades bit the dust about ten years ago! -- Andy www.andygilham.com From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Apr 17 09:18:34 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:18:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: Good Suggestions for London record Shops Message-ID: LoL. Been to just a few shops there Mike ;-) Would that be about 30 seconds per shop, it's be like a 1 day Hawkwind trolley Dash! Any ideas for best bets for second hand cheap Hawkwind CDs...(not too bothered about the vinyl) Rich W From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Apr 17 09:12:54 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:12:54 EDT Subject: OFF: ORB Message-ID: Orb tonite NYC, Irving Plaza, 8PM. Usual suspects will be there! Bill From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 09:27:03 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:27:03 -0400 Subject: OFF: ORB Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:12:54 EDT, Bill Stewart wrote: >Usual suspects will be there! But who is Keyser Soze? Re. the Orb- anyone got the new album 'Cydonia' yet? Comments? Reviews I've read suggest that they're coasting a bit. Listened to 'Pome Fritz' last night for the first tme in ages and that's a pretty challenging album... they seem to have played it comparatively safe since then. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 17 11:03:49 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Radioactive Dagger) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:03:49 -0600 Subject: HW,,,Group X In-Reply-To: <98.137a47dc.280d9b56@aol.com> Message-ID: Could some kind soul with good brain explain the UK band GROUP X , that did put out a couple singles...(detail appreciated highly).... The one I have that Nik reflected upon in my living room and tried to take credit for possibly taking part in (do I hear laughter?? anybody remember laughter?)....(It COULD be him on it MUSICALLY,,,, and it IS PRETTY GOOD)..... is ROTI-CALLIOPE...c/w CROSS-BEAT..... says "originally released 1963" on Fontana label....... thanks in adcance.. Mike! C could it be called "UK SURF"??????? From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Apr 17 10:08:04 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:08:04 -0400 Subject: Virus Warning - Please Read Message-ID: Hey Now, I just wanted you all to know that I got this virus on my home computer over the weekend. My Hotmail account has NOT been infected. I was gone all weekend and was checking my Hotmail account yesterday, here at work (against our work policy) and I had a note from my buddy Brian saying that I had a VIRUS on my other email account. Like I say, I was gone to 3 shows all weekend and did not get home until 3:00 AM yesterday morning. I have NOT sent ANY emails from that account since 4/13/01. And I have NOT sent ANY from that account since I got home. The VIRUS is a worm virus that sends out notes to any unread emails that I have. I did not have the time or energy to fix this problem yesterday, but I will be working to get it fixed ASAP. So if you get or have gotten ANY notes from me from this addy: DRider hawkwind at mediaone.net DO NOT OPEN IT. PLEASE just delete it. I know that several others have been hit by this virus too. I got mine from someone on the digiphish group. When I opened my email yesterday. I had a couple VERY nasty notes from Christofer Martel. Dude, I am not sending you infected files. This is the nature of the virus. I have not sent out ANY email from my mediaone account. Please don't trash my B&P package, as you threatened to do. Sending me nasty notes over something that I can not control will do no good. It will however piss me off and if I get anymore notes like it from ANYONE, I WILL post them to the respective lists from which they came for everyone on that list to see. It's just not cool! I am sorry to take up so much space, but I am trying to help you all from getting this virus. According to the McAfee website, the fix is in the version 4134 dat file update. That file is due out this week (Thursday). Unless you wait until Thursday and download that update, you have no choice except the manual fix. Check the hyperlink for details. Peace, Darrin From: Bob Subject: Another Stinking Virus(read this) Reply-To: bp at gti.net Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 19:01:46 -0400 There is another e-mail attachment virus on the lists right now, as well. It is called : W32/Badtrans at MM It is a worm. It returns information from your computer to it's originator. This is no joke. More info is at: http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99069& DO NOT OPEN E-MAIL ATTACHMENTS THAT YOU ARE NOT EXPECTING ! And, set your mailer to NOT auto-open attachments. Good Luck. -Bob P.S.- Remember it is usually NOT the fault of the recipient nor sender, they are just victims as well. This is the virus. I just saw this posting: >>>From: Taylor S. [mailto:tayl0r.smith at mlndsprlng.com] >>>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:18 PM >>>To: b0cab0b at bells0uth.net >>>Subject: Re: [digiphish] ISO: 6/21/94 Cincinnati Music Hall >>> >>> >>>hey Bob... >>> I couldn't open the attachment because I got an error saying, >>>" File data >>>corruption: Probably due to bad transmission or bad disc >>>access." Will you >>>send it again? thanks! -Taylor Remember it is usually NOT the fault of the recipient nor sender, they are just victims as well. Don't blame, just fix ! This will spread, if we don't get on it. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Apr 17 10:52:02 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:52:02 -0400 Subject: How To Fix Badtrans & Ethan Virus Message-ID: This was just sent to me by a friend. I hope that it helps! Peace, Darrin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you received an email from Chris Imburgia with an attachment, and tried to open the attachment (even if it reported an error!), then you most likely have the following viruses: W32.Badtrans.13312 at mm W97M.Ethan.B The problem is, most virus programs DO NOT DETECT the W32.Badtrans virus! In particular, I tried McAfee VirusScan, Computer Associates InoculateIT, and Command Virus, and they reported my computer as clean, when I know for a fact it was still infected (Outlook was still sending email worms to people that emailed me). The one product I found that detected both viruses is Norton AntiVirus. You can run this virus scanner for free at http://security.norton.com/default.asp?productid=sarc&langid=us&venid=sym Since it is free, it will only report the viruses and won't fix them for you. Write down the location of the infected files. To get rid of the Ethan virus (which only infects Word documents), you can either delete the infected documents (and then don't forget to empty the Recycle bin!), or get InoculateIT from http://antivirus.ca.com/ which will disinfect the documents. However, that program won't detect or fix the W32.Badtrans virus. To get rid of the W32.Badtrans virus on a Win2k system, you need to do the following. Restart your computer. Hold F8 while Windows is starting up. Select "boot in safe mode". After it has booted, open a command prompt and delete the following files: The file C:\WINNT\hkk32.exe is infected with W32.Badtrans.13312 at mm The file C:\WINNT\INETD.EXE is infected with W32.Badtrans.13312 at mm The file C:\WINNT\system32\hksdll.dll is infected with W32.Badtrans.13312 at mm The file C:\WINNT\system32\KERN32.EXE is infected with W32.Badtrans.13312 at mm The virus also leaves some entries in your registry. This will cause Windows to report an error when you start up, because it can't find the files you just deleted. Here's how to fix your registry: Go to Start->Run and type regedit. Choose Edit->Find and look for "kern32.exe". Delete all occurrences of the file. Choose Edit->Find and look for "inetd.exe". Delete all occurrences of the file. Restart your computer, and everything should be nice and clean. James _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Apr 17 10:55:22 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:55:22 +0800 Subject: OFF: ORB Message-ID: Had a listen to tracks on the album in a shop recently. Most of the tracks didn't do as much for me as some of their earlier stuff, but there was one really great track that had a very humorously silly name, but don't remember the title? William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 9:27 PM Subject: Re: OFF: ORB > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:12:54 EDT, Bill Stewart wrote: > > >Usual suspects will be there! > > But who is Keyser Soze? > > Re. the Orb- anyone got the new album 'Cydonia' yet? Comments? Reviews I've > read suggest that they're coasting a bit. Listened to 'Pome Fritz' last > night for the first tme in ages and that's a pretty challenging album... > they seem to have played it comparatively safe since then. > From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Apr 17 12:25:52 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:25:52 -0400 Subject: More Virus Info Message-ID: Hey, I just found out that my buddy Bill got the virus from me. As soon as he got it, the virus started replying to ALL his unread mail. As a new email came in, the virus automatically replied to the person's note. SO DO NOT SEND ME ANY EMAIL AT: DRider hawkwind at mediaone.net If you have any email notes from me in your inbox dated after 4/9/01 delete them. Also, it may be best not to open any attachments, unless you are VERY certain they are safe. Just because it's someone that you email all the time, does not mean it's safe. Don't leave unread notes in your inbox. If you see replies going out from your outbox and you are not sending them, you have the "Badtrans" virus. And just because you have virus scan on your computer does not mean that the virus scan will catch it. Thanx! Darrin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Apr 17 13:20:37 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:20:37 +0100 Subject: unsubscribing In-Reply-To: <200104171103.MAA18835@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 12:03 +0100 17.04.2001, M Holmes wrote: >I still receive email on unix and I do simply scrub messages with html >tagging. I really oughta just do that in procmailrc so that I don't even >need to actively do this. I have my email client ditch messages that come with silly tagging -- I figure anyone sending anything worth reading won't be using such things. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 13:38:31 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:38:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: I have to share sam's view on this i think palace springs is a tad over rated on this ng. colm > At 7:18 +0100 17.04.2001, Sam Kirwan wrote: > >Palace Springs - didn't stand the test of release IMHO. > > No way! :) _Palace Springs_ rocks (despite Bridget :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:scylding at carlaz.com > http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ > From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 13:40:20 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:40:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: From: "Bill & Cynthia" > The Charisma period, IMO, is the best Hawkwind period. Nothing can beat the > sheer brilliance of Quark, Strangeness and Charm. hear! hear! my fav hawkwind and non hawkwind album of all time :-) colm From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 13:52:52 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:52:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: >From: "Douglas Pearson >The diversity of > bass playing on 'Atomhenge 76' is unquestionably impressive, but never > quite matches either Lemmy's propulsive overdrive or Adrian Shaw's warmly > melodic feel that fit so well with Simon House's keyboards. is it just me? But I have never been impressed by adrian shaws bass playing. I mean "quark strangness and charm" is my fav hawkwind album but its calverts voice and lyrics, simon kings fantastic drumming, simon houses brilliant violin and synth work and of course brocks guitar work(he even plays a few solos!) that make the album so great for me. cheers colm From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Apr 17 14:15:13 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:15:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: Horses for courses. I mean, Eno produced Lucky Leif and look how laid back that sounds. Someone (may have been you, Doug?) posted that Rudolph got an EMS Synthi and disappeared into his room prior to leaving the Fairies - I'd never heard this before, any evidence to substantiate it? I have a great photo of him playing bass with the Hawks dressed in sportsgear - if and when I get a scanner I'll post this one up. And how come Rudolph did the late '76 tour even though Powell and Turner had gone? Had they nobody to replace him at that point? Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Pearson To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:57 AM Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:33:19 +0100, Captain Bl at ck > wrote: > >Thank you Mike. Astounding ISN'T a bad album at all, BUT the point I was > >making here was if they'd used Time For Sale, Uncle Sam, Back on the > >Streets, Assassins etc on the same album as Steppenwolf, Reefer Madness > >and, yes, all the cool instrumentals............ > > Would it be more accurate to say a "second album by the Rudolph/Powell > lineup" rather than "ASAM as a double LP"? (Since clearly some of those > songs hadn't been written yet when ASAM was recorded - 'Atomhenge 76' makes > it clear that the lyrics to "Hassan i Sahba" weren't written until after > that tour.) I wholeheartedly agree that those four songs should have been > on a studio album together; heck, that probably edges out 'Earth Ritual' as > my favorite never-recorded-but-might-have-been/almost-was Hawkwind album. > > >The production lacks balls - the band certainly didn't as the live material > >will testify. Maybe that was Rudolph doing his Eno-esque mixes. Armchair > >Hawkwind, anybody? > > At least it's not as laid-back as the Hawklords album. (the one which I > generally referred to as "armchair"; and the live recordings by *that* band > kick ass, too) Now, if Paul Rudolph could have actually gotten Eno to > *produce* it - wow! That could have really been something! > > I think that the main problem with ASAM is not that it's at all a bad album > ("Steppenwolf" is one of Calvert's best characterizations, "Kadu Flyer" is > one of Nik's best, "City of Lagoons" perfectly captures the lazy, swampy, > overbearingly-tropical mood of Ballard's 'The Drowned World' [quite > obviously the inspiration for the piece], etc.), but rather that it falls > between two of the best albums in Hawkwind's career ... in much the same > way that Rudolph's bass playing is underrated since he fell between the two > best bassists in Hawkwind's career (and also because, as good as his bass > playing is, it doesn't come CLOSE to his six-string work with the Pink > Fairies on stuff like "Uncle Harry's Last Freakout"). The diversity of > bass playing on 'Atomhenge 76' is unquestionably impressive, but never > quite matches either Lemmy's propulsive overdrive or Adrian Shaw's warmly > melodic feel that fit so well with Simon House's keyboards. > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: The Devil > >To: > >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:27 PM > >Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > > > > > >> Capt. Black said: > >> > >> "If only Astounding Sounds had been a well produced studio double > >> album, think what a classic that would have been." From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 17 14:22:39 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:22:39 +0100 Subject: Farflung and Pink Faries Message-ID: any clues as to the line-up for the Fairies? Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:21 AM Subject: Re: Farflung and Pink Faries > Just noticed that Farflung and Pink Faries are playing the Club Spaceland > in Los Angeles on Friday, April 27th. > > Should be a great show. > > Dr. Dan From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 17 14:33:14 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:33:14 +0100 Subject: Farflung and Pink Faries Message-ID: 'Kings' is easy to get, Keith, if you want one, but the first two are impossible. In fact, the only things currently flaoting around easily over here are: Kings Of Oblivion Live at Roundhouse Mandies and Mescaline Live at Weeley Do It Golden Years '69-'71 Kill Em And Eat Em and possibly still the CD that combined the 6-track vinyl called 'Pink Fairies' and Twink's 'Do It' 12" single and possibly the 'No Picture' CD. Anyone want ay more info on any of these then e.mail me at: agcdser at aol.com Andy Garibaldi P.S. Heard a rumour today that Rudolph is not in the best of health to say the least so would be interested to know if he's part of the line-up for the USA gig or not. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:33 AM Subject: Re: Farflung and Pink Faries > DD says... > > >Just noticed that Farflung and Pink Faries are playing the Club Spaceland > >in Los Angeles on Friday, April 27th. > > Ummm...cool. Are they (PF) touring nationwide? Didn't find much online and > Larry Wallis' site (www.pinkfairies.co.uk) hasn't been updated since December. > > What is the current availability of their early works (on CD), like Never > Neverland and Kings of Oblivion? I remember that the latter at least is not > so easy to get (at least cheaply). Anybody know a good semi-inexpensive > source for either? > > Who's the current band? Could early Motorhead (like On Parole) be > incorporated into a PF set? Or is it? > > Thanks...Grakkl (FAA) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 17 14:38:28 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:38:28 +0100 Subject: hey ho, let's go: sad news Message-ID: thought out? nerve? daring? we could be here all night debating that one, but point taken. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert C. Mayo" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:36 AM Subject: Re: hey ho, let's go: sad news > In a message dated 4/16/01 3:41:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: > > > > Yeh - never was anything like that since altho'a few came very close, > > although not too sure if the person here who said 'musical genius' was > > tonhue in cheek or what - don't think he'd have been flattered to have been > > called that because after all,that is the very reason they existed - to > > blast away musical genius and just create fantastic dumb-assed rock 'n' > > roll. > > > yes--and it took genius to do so during the musical climate of the time. imho. > bobm From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 14:27:55 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (bedroom trancer) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:27:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: I think i asked this before but i can't remember getting an answer though.... Did paul rudolph ever strap on an electric guitar during any of the live gigs he did with hawkwind and if he did who then played the bass? also is a lot of the lead guitar on astounding by paul rudolph or is it all be dave brock? cheers colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: 17 April 2001 19:15 Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > Horses for courses. I mean, Eno produced Lucky Leif and look how laid back > that sounds. > > Someone (may have been you, Doug?) posted that Rudolph got an EMS Synthi and > disappeared into his room prior to leaving the Fairies - I'd never heard > this before, any evidence to substantiate it? > > I have a great photo of him playing bass with the Hawks dressed in > sportsgear - if and when I get a scanner I'll post this one up. > > And how come Rudolph did the late '76 tour even though Powell and Turner had > gone? Had they nobody to replace him at that point? > > Captain Bl at ck. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Douglas Pearson > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:57 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > > > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:33:19 +0100, Captain Bl at ck > > wrote: > > >Thank you Mike. Astounding ISN'T a bad album at all, BUT the point I was > > >making here was if they'd used Time For Sale, Uncle Sam, Back on the > > >Streets, Assassins etc on the same album as Steppenwolf, Reefer Madness > > >and, yes, all the cool instrumentals............ > > > > Would it be more accurate to say a "second album by the Rudolph/Powell > > lineup" rather than "ASAM as a double LP"? (Since clearly some of those > > songs hadn't been written yet when ASAM was recorded - 'Atomhenge 76' > makes > > it clear that the lyrics to "Hassan i Sahba" weren't written until after > > that tour.) I wholeheartedly agree that those four songs should have been > > on a studio album together; heck, that probably edges out 'Earth Ritual' > as > > my favorite never-recorded-but-might-have-been/almost-was Hawkwind album. > > > > >The production lacks balls - the band certainly didn't as the live > material > > >will testify. Maybe that was Rudolph doing his Eno-esque mixes. Armchair > > >Hawkwind, anybody? > > > > At least it's not as laid-back as the Hawklords album. (the one which I > > generally referred to as "armchair"; and the live recordings by *that* > band > > kick ass, too) Now, if Paul Rudolph could have actually gotten Eno to > > *produce* it - wow! That could have really been something! > > > > I think that the main problem with ASAM is not that it's at all a bad > album > > ("Steppenwolf" is one of Calvert's best characterizations, "Kadu Flyer" is > > one of Nik's best, "City of Lagoons" perfectly captures the lazy, swampy, > > overbearingly-tropical mood of Ballard's 'The Drowned World' [quite > > obviously the inspiration for the piece], etc.), but rather that it falls > > between two of the best albums in Hawkwind's career ... in much the same > > way that Rudolph's bass playing is underrated since he fell between the > two > > best bassists in Hawkwind's career (and also because, as good as his bass > > playing is, it doesn't come CLOSE to his six-string work with the Pink > > Fairies on stuff like "Uncle Harry's Last Freakout"). The diversity of > > bass playing on 'Atomhenge 76' is unquestionably impressive, but never > > quite matches either Lemmy's propulsive overdrive or Adrian Shaw's warmly > > melodic feel that fit so well with Simon House's keyboards. > > > > -Doug > > ceres at sirius.com > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: The Devil > > >To: > > >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:27 PM > > >Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > > > > > > > > >> Capt. Black said: > > >> > > >> "If only Astounding Sounds had been a well produced studio double > > >> album, think what a classic that would have been." > From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Apr 17 14:34:04 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:34:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: Here's as much as I know... Paul Rudolph DID play some lead on Astounding - namely City Of Lagoons, Aubergine, Kerb Crawler, Chronoglide and the solo during the third verse of Steppenwolf. He DID play some lead live, as photos from the tour will testify (on a black Gibson Les Paul, to be exact). Who played Bass? Simon or Dave? Does anybody know for sure? Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: bedroom trancer To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 7:27 PM Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > I think i asked this before but i can't remember getting an answer > though.... > > Did paul rudolph ever strap on an electric guitar during any of the live > gigs he did with hawkwind and if he did who then played the bass? > > also is a lot of the lead guitar on astounding by paul rudolph or is it all > be dave brock? > > > cheers > > > colm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > To: > Sent: 17 April 2001 19:15 > Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > > > > Horses for courses. I mean, Eno produced Lucky Leif and look how laid back > > that sounds. > > > > Someone (may have been you, Doug?) posted that Rudolph got an EMS Synthi > and > > disappeared into his room prior to leaving the Fairies - I'd never heard > > this before, any evidence to substantiate it? > > > > I have a great photo of him playing bass with the Hawks dressed in > > sportsgear - if and when I get a scanner I'll post this one up. > > > > And how come Rudolph did the late '76 tour even though Powell and Turner > had > > gone? Had they nobody to replace him at that point? > > > > Captain Bl at ck. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Douglas Pearson > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:57 AM > > Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:33:19 +0100, Captain Bl at ck > > > > wrote: > > > >Thank you Mike. Astounding ISN'T a bad album at all, BUT the point I > was > > > >making here was if they'd used Time For Sale, Uncle Sam, Back on the > > > >Streets, Assassins etc on the same album as Steppenwolf, Reefer Madness > > > >and, yes, all the cool instrumentals............ > > > > > > Would it be more accurate to say a "second album by the Rudolph/Powell > > > lineup" rather than "ASAM as a double LP"? (Since clearly some of those > > > songs hadn't been written yet when ASAM was recorded - 'Atomhenge 76' > > makes > > > it clear that the lyrics to "Hassan i Sahba" weren't written until after > > > that tour.) I wholeheartedly agree that those four songs should have > been > > > on a studio album together; heck, that probably edges out 'Earth Ritual' > > as > > > my favorite never-recorded-but-might-have-been/almost-was Hawkwind > album. > > > > > > >The production lacks balls - the band certainly didn't as the live > > material > > > >will testify. Maybe that was Rudolph doing his Eno-esque mixes. > Armchair > > > >Hawkwind, anybody? > > > > > > At least it's not as laid-back as the Hawklords album. (the one which I > > > generally referred to as "armchair"; and the live recordings by *that* > > band > > > kick ass, too) Now, if Paul Rudolph could have actually gotten Eno to > > > *produce* it - wow! That could have really been something! > > > > > > I think that the main problem with ASAM is not that it's at all a bad > > album > > > ("Steppenwolf" is one of Calvert's best characterizations, "Kadu Flyer" > is > > > one of Nik's best, "City of Lagoons" perfectly captures the lazy, > swampy, > > > overbearingly-tropical mood of Ballard's 'The Drowned World' [quite > > > obviously the inspiration for the piece], etc.), but rather that it > falls > > > between two of the best albums in Hawkwind's career ... in much the same > > > way that Rudolph's bass playing is underrated since he fell between the > > two > > > best bassists in Hawkwind's career (and also because, as good as his > bass > > > playing is, it doesn't come CLOSE to his six-string work with the Pink > > > Fairies on stuff like "Uncle Harry's Last Freakout"). The diversity of > > > bass playing on 'Atomhenge 76' is unquestionably impressive, but never > > > quite matches either Lemmy's propulsive overdrive or Adrian Shaw's > warmly > > > melodic feel that fit so well with Simon House's keyboards. > > > > > > -Doug > > > ceres at sirius.com > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: The Devil > > > >To: > > > >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:27 PM > > > >Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > > > > > > > > > > > >> Capt. Black said: > > > >> > > > >> "If only Astounding Sounds had been a well produced studio double > > > >> album, think what a classic that would have been." > > From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Tue Apr 17 14:39:34 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:39:34 +0200 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision In-Reply-To: <00f601c0c76d$02804fa0$d41028d5@starfield> Message-ID: Hi At 19:34 17.04.2001 +0100, you wrote: >Here's as much as I know... > >Paul Rudolph DID play some lead on Astounding - namely City Of Lagoons, >Aubergine, Kerb Crawler, Chronoglide and the solo during the third verse of >Steppenwolf. > >He DID play some lead live, as photos from the tour will testify (on a black >Gibson Les Paul, to be exact). > >Who played Bass? Simon or Dave? Does anybody know for sure? Maybe Bob Calvert ???? Didn't Bob play guitar during the Astounding tour ? Bernhard From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 14:47:23 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:47:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: in the atomhenge 76 booklet that comes with the cd theirs a couple of pictures of robert calvert with a trumpet but i can't hear a trumpet on any of the songs? colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Pospiech" To: Sent: 17 April 2001 19:39 Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > Hi > > At 19:34 17.04.2001 +0100, you wrote: > >Here's as much as I know... > > > >Paul Rudolph DID play some lead on Astounding - namely City Of Lagoons, > >Aubergine, Kerb Crawler, Chronoglide and the solo during the third verse of > >Steppenwolf. > > > >He DID play some lead live, as photos from the tour will testify (on a black > >Gibson Les Paul, to be exact). > > > >Who played Bass? Simon or Dave? Does anybody know for sure? > > Maybe Bob Calvert ???? > > Didn't Bob play guitar during the Astounding tour ? > > > Bernhard > From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Tue Apr 17 20:02:21 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:02:21 BST Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: Bernhard wrote: >Who played Bass? Simon or Dave? Does anybody know for sure? > >Maybe Bob Calvert ???? > >Didn't Bob play guitar during the Astounding tour ? I know he played rhythm guitar on the Hawklords tour so he may have done. Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 15:05:21 2001 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:05:21 +0100 Subject: OFF: Good Suggestions for London record Shops In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'll second Selectadisc - often very good prices. I just got Calvert's Hype there for ?2.99. They also have the Atomhenge 2CD for 2 quid less than the main Oxford Street stores. Hawkwind Family Tree is currently in nearly all the major London stores and normally at ?14.99. Mr. CD which is virtually opposite has a limited selection and there is the Reckless Records 2nd hand shop 50 yards down the road. Check out all three before you hit HMV, Virgin and Tower. There are other shops further down Berwick Street in the market area but I don't think they are the sort to stock Hawkwind. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Andy Gilham > Sent: 17 April 2001 09:16 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: Good Suggestions for London record Shops > > > > Any good suggestions for good London record Shops? > > I always like Selectadisc in Berwick Street - satisfies most of my > record-buying needs, good selection at reasonable prices, and the > only place > I've seen _Hawkwind Family Tree_ for sale - but I'm sure Mike will chip in > with his fifty-strong list of second-hand shops ;) > > -- Andy > > ObCD: Neko Case and her Boyfriends - _Furnace Room Lullaby_ > > www.andygilham.com From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 15:05:34 2001 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:05:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph In-Reply-To: <00f001c0c6ac$6b25fc60$6858893e@bedroomt> Message-ID: I'm positive it wasn't Ginger - he didn't play on the Earth Ritual tour anyway did he? I can vaguely remember a medium height person with dark shortish hair and a round face but I'm not sure. Regards, Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of bedroom trancer > Sent: 16 April 2001 20:36 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Trying to identify autograph > > > the only person i can think off that own that autograph is ginger baker if > it was during hawkwinds time with bronze records?? > > cheers > > colm From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 15:19:40 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:19:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: Good Suggestions for London record Shops In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Mark Edmonds writes >There are other shops further down Berwick Street in the market >area but I don't think they are the sort to stock Hawkwind. They might, so it's worth having a thorough look round before you open your wallet... recall the day in Berwick Street when I bought Pink Fairies "Live At The Roundhouse" on vinyl, I was with a mate (non-PFs aficionado) who expressed surprise at the relatively steep price I'd been prepared to pay... gravely I explained the rarity value, the personal meaning etc. etc ... and then we went next door and saw the same album (in better condition, natch) for half the price. How he smirked. -- Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 15:21:57 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:21:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: two questions In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010415211514.00956de0@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: In message <4.2.0.58.20010415211514.00956de0 at pop.eunet.no>, christmu at eunet.no writes >Jim Jones & The Kool-Ade Kids - "...Trust >Us"/"Contrafusion" Can't help but curious: is this the Jim Jones of Pere Ubu? -- Nick Medford From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 15:34:11 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:34:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: Good Suggestions for London record Shops - Pink Faires/Devaints Message-ID: Hi there after reading alot about them on this ng i have been meaning to buy a few cd's by the pink faires and or deviants and wondered if anyone could recomend any to me??? cheers colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: 17 April 2001 20:19 Subject: Re: OFF: Good Suggestions for London record Shops > In message on.co.uk>, Mark Edmonds writes > >There are other shops further down Berwick Street in the market > >area but I don't think they are the sort to stock Hawkwind. > > They might, so it's worth having a thorough look round before you open > your wallet... recall the day in Berwick Street when I bought Pink Fairies > "Live At The Roundhouse" on vinyl, I was with a mate (non-PFs > aficionado) who expressed surprise at the relatively steep price I'd been > prepared to pay... gravely I explained the rarity value, the personal meaning > etc. etc ... and then we went next door and saw the same album (in better > condition, natch) for half the price. How he smirked. > -- > Nick Medford > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Apr 17 15:49:59 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:19:59 +0930 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: I eagerly await to hear this album one fine day boo hoo - me no have this one Mb > is it just me? But I have never been impressed by adrian shaws bass playing. > I mean "quark strangness and charm" is my fav hawkwind album but its > calverts voice and lyrics, simon kings fantastic drumming, simon houses > brilliant violin and synth work and of course brocks guitar work(he even > plays a few solos!) that make the album so great for me. > > cheers > > colm > From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue Apr 17 15:52:52 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:52:52 EDT Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: I have to agree also. I like it, but it never made it into my top 100 Hawkwind play list. Around the time it was released I met many Fans (at shows) that were new to the band and had started collecting with that one. I guess it's kind of like your favorite Dr Who is the one you started watching first? bob In a message dated 4/17/01 10:52:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK writes: > I have to share sam's view on this i think palace springs is a tad over > rated on this ng. > > colm > Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 15:58:56 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:58:56 +0100 Subject: HW,,,Group X Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Radioactive Dagger > Could some kind soul with good brain explain the UK band GROUP X , that > did put out a couple singles...(detail appreciated highly).... > The one I have that Nik reflected upon in my living room and tried to take > credit for possibly taking part in (do I hear laughter?? anybody remember > laughter?)....(It COULD be him on it MUSICALLY,,,, and it IS PRETTY > GOOD).....is ROTI-CALLIOPE...c/w CROSS-BEAT..... > says "originally released 1963" on Fontana label....... I can't help with band details but Record Collector has both singles listed. The one you have is priced at 12 UK pounds (or whatever more you can get for it). However the other, also released in 1963, has to get my vote for one of the oddest titles ever - "There Are 8 Million Cossack Melodies - And This Is One Of Them" The b side is more mundanely titled "Teneriffe". Thank you for revealing the true nature of the name! And just for the sake of Kompleteness the Record Collector listed price for the Dharma Blues Band album is 45 UK pounds. jill PS Mike C: your money order went out today. Hope it arrives safely. From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Apr 17 16:01:30 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:01:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph Message-ID: Try Rik Martinez or Clive Deamer (alternate drummers on the E.R. tour). ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Edmonds To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:05 PM Subject: Re: HW: Trying to identify autograph > I'm positive it wasn't Ginger - he didn't play on the Earth Ritual tour > anyway did he? I can vaguely remember a medium height person with dark > shortish hair and a round face but I'm not sure. > > Regards, > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of bedroom trancer > > Sent: 16 April 2001 20:36 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: HW: Trying to identify autograph > > > > > > the only person i can think off that own that autograph is ginger baker if > > it was during hawkwinds time with bronze records?? > > > > cheers > > > > colm From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Apr 17 16:03:07 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:03:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: Maybe Bob Played some rhythm, but that doesn't answer who played the bass... ...trumpets - I direct you to Steppenwolf and Kerb Crawler - the 'rudimentary brass section'. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernhard Pospiech To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 7:39 PM Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > Hi > > At 19:34 17.04.2001 +0100, you wrote: > >Here's as much as I know... > > > >Paul Rudolph DID play some lead on Astounding - namely City Of Lagoons, > >Aubergine, Kerb Crawler, Chronoglide and the solo during the third verse of > >Steppenwolf. > > > >He DID play some lead live, as photos from the tour will testify (on a black > >Gibson Les Paul, to be exact). > > > >Who played Bass? Simon or Dave? Does anybody know for sure? > > Maybe Bob Calvert ???? > > Didn't Bob play guitar during the Astounding tour ? > > > Bernhard From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Apr 17 16:28:51 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:28:51 -0400 Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph In-Reply-To: ; from mmje@MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 08:05:34PM +0100 Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 08:05:34PM +0100, Mark Edmonds wrote: > I'm positive it wasn't Ginger - he didn't play on the Earth Ritual tour > anyway did he? I can vaguely remember a medium height person with dark > shortish hair and a round face but I'm not sure. The amazing (though slow and somewhat misbehaving) www.d-rider.de says the lineup for that tour was: * Dave Brock (voc, g, syn, key) * Nik Turner (sax, voc) * Huw Lloyd-Langton (lead g, voc) * Harvey Bainbridge (b, voc) * "Dead Fred" Reeves (key, syn) * Rik Martinez (dr) Clive Deamer (dr) * Guest Musicians Dave Anderson (b) Michael Moorcock (voc) Lemmy (b, voc) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From christmu at EUNET.NO Tue Apr 17 16:28:30 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:28:30 +0200 Subject: OFF: not Blackmore's [K]night Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:31:36 +0100, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >Mind you, I've been paying more attention to the Scandinavian >folk-rock scene than the UK folk-rock scene the last couple of years. >Must remember to catch Gjallarhorn (with the unreasonably attractive >and talented Jenny Wilhelms!) at one of their UK festival appearances >this summer (not the Cambridge festival, alas). Norwegian band Ym:Stammen comes recommended if you like folk flavored Scandinavian music. Their later LPs drifted towards ethnic styled techno, but their first LP, "Dvergm?l", is a gem if you can find the CD with all the bonus tracks. Chr. ObCD: 13th Floor Elevators - Easter Everywhere "Mass culture was created for the purpose of Transmigration through mass Technology." The Temple of The Blasphemers of Sodom: http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/pulp/tubrok.html From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 16:47:29 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:47:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: why can't EMI (they own virgin now don't they?) get there finger out and repress the charims cd's and while there at it repress "warrior" too? colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: 17 April 2001 20:49 Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > I eagerly await to hear this album one fine day > > boo hoo - me no have this one > > Mb > > > > is it just me? But I have never been impressed by adrian shaws bass > playing. > > I mean "quark strangness and charm" is my fav hawkwind album but its > > calverts voice and lyrics, simon kings fantastic drumming, simon houses > > brilliant violin and synth work and of course brocks guitar work(he even > > plays a few solos!) that make the album so great for me. > > > > cheers > > > > colm > > > From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Tue Apr 17 16:40:11 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:40:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision In-Reply-To: <014f01c0c767$5cf394c0$5657893e@bedroomt> Message-ID: At 18:52 +0100 17.04.2001, bedroom trancer wrote: >is it just me? But I have never been impressed by adrian shaws bass playing. I don't think HW was the right band for him. I've never been particularly impressed one way or t'other on his playing with HW, but in Bevis Frond he *ruled* most mightily :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 17 16:52:22 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:52:22 EDT Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 17 Apr 2001, at 21:40, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > At 18:52 +0100 17.04.2001, bedroom trancer wrote: > >is it just me? But I have never been impressed by adrian shaws bass > >playing. > > I don't think HW was the right band for him. I've never been > particularly impressed one way or t'other on his playing with HW, but > in Bevis Frond he *ruled* most mightily :) > You got THAT right! Ade in BF is slammin'... theo From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Apr 17 16:56:57 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:56:57 -0400 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:34:04 +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >Paul Rudolph DID play some lead on Astounding - namely City Of Lagoons, >Aubergine, Kerb Crawler, Chronoglide and the solo during the third verse of >Steppenwolf. Thanks for the info! Much appreciated! >He DID play some lead live, as photos from the tour will testify >(on a black Gibson Les Paul, to be exact). ... but of course! (the black Les Paul, that is) >Who played Bass? Simon or Dave? Does anybody know for sure? There's a review reprinted either on www.hawkwind.com or on the Calvert Projekte site that mentions Simon House playing bass (and, IIRC, the Simon House interview in Ptolemaic Terrascope mentions that he started out as bassist in High Tide). There's at least one track (I think the instrumental on Weird 5?) where you can hear violin (Simon, obviously), synth (would have to be Dave, then), guitar (Rudolph) AND bass (however, this sounds like it could be synth bass ... could Dave have played it on keyboard?). Or maybe I imagined all that ... >Horses for courses. I mean, Eno produced Lucky Leif and look how >laid back that sounds. True. Actually, Eno didn't really get interesting as a producer (IMO) until slightly later than this ... his work with John Cale in the mid-70s is quite good (just picked up his 'Island Years' double CD - great stuff!), but the first Devo album was where he REALLY started on the cool stuff (and that band probably provided a great platform for doing so). >Someone (may have been you, Doug?) posted that Rudolph got an >EMS Synthi and disappeared into his room prior to leaving the >Fairies - I'd never heard this before, any evidence to substantiate it? Wasn't me, and I'd never heard that before, either. I would imagine that doing sessions for Eno was more lucrative and less stressful than driving around England with the Pink Fairies, though. >I have a great photo of him playing bass with the Hawks dressed in >sportsgear - if and when I get a scanner I'll post this one up. The fantastic Larry Wallis interview in 'Forced Exposure' many many years ago mentions that when the Deviants did the "Screwed Up" reunion 7"EP on Stiff, the rest of the band would be partying it up in the studio, and Rudolph would show up on his bicycle, in athletic gear, with his thermos of tea. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Apr 17 17:06:30 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:06:30 -0400 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > At 18:52 +0100 17.04.2001, bedroom trancer wrote: >> is it just me? But I have never been impressed by adrian shaws bass playing. Carl replied: > I don't think HW was the right band for him. I've never been > particularly impressed one way or t'other on his playing with HW, but > in Bevis Frond he *ruled* most mightily :) Yes! Witness "Live at the Great American Music Hall." Or witness a Bevis Frond gig for yourself (when Nick tours as a band again.) Adrian's bass playing intertwines with Nick's guitar beautifully. With Hawkwind (Space Ritual especially), the bass is more of a lead instrument and/or driving rhythmic force (blanga blanga blanga...), which doesn't play to Adrian's strengths. Brian P.S. See http://www.rubricrecords.com for Nick and Adrian's US acoustic tour dates. I guess this means Adrian's cure is working and a Frond tour may come sooner than expected? -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From scylding at CARLAZ.COM Tue Apr 17 17:09:55 2001 From: scylding at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:09:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision In-Reply-To: <000f01c0c77f$9fd53ce0$b8e1883e@bedroomt> Message-ID: At 21:47 +0100 17.04.2001, colm mcwilliams wrote: >why can't EMI (they own virgin now don't they?) get there finger out and >repress the charims cd's and while there at it repress "warrior" too? The answer is that the market is currently flooded with great masses of (let's face it) not terribly good recordings (or to put it more kindly, fan-pleasing releases ;) There is no incentive for EMI to release Hawkwind back-catalogue into that kind of situation. When your average punter who's maybe heard about Hawkwind and wants to check them out goes into a shop he's going to see a bewildering and fairly random collection of disks -- and the chances that he picks an slightly more expensive (16 quid?) remaster with fancy packaging (like the extremely nice EMI remasters were) is probably less than him picking a grimy -sounding 12 quid CD. _If_ Hawkwind had gotten it together to do the reunion gig back when the EMI remasters came out (as was talked about at the time) and got over their disputes and managed some semblance of a reunion tour as well, _then_ we might have seen further interest from EMI is releasing sexily remastered and repackaged Hawkwind classics. But this, of course, didn't happen ... Bewail it though we may, I suspect that comes close to summing up EMI's position. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:scylding at carlaz.com http://www.mp3.com/Scylding/ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Apr 17 17:11:06 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:11:06 -0400 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:52:52 +0100, bedroom trancer wrote: >>From: "Douglas Pearson >>The diversity of >> bass playing on 'Atomhenge 76' is unquestionably impressive, but never >> quite matches either Lemmy's propulsive overdrive or Adrian Shaw's warmly >> melodic feel that fit so well with Simon House's keyboards. > >is it just me? But I have never been impressed by adrian shaws bass >playing. >I mean "quark strangness and charm" is my fav hawkwind album but its >calverts voice and lyrics, simon kings fantastic drumming, simon houses >brilliant violin and synth work and of course brocks guitar work(he even >plays a few solos!) that make the album so great for me. Well, unless the bassist is recorded REALLY up-front (Lemmy!), I find it takes a lot of focused listening to really pick up on a bassist's contribution (and I play bass, myself) to an overall sound. The other ingredients you mention are certainly also essential, but to me, 'Quark' is such a *perfect* album that all five musicians *must* be great! Adrian's playing is not quite "virtuoso" on a Lemmy (or even Davey) level, but neither is it simplistic; pay close attention, and you'll hear some amazingly well-thought-out rhythmic and melodic choices being made. I find it sometimes brilliant IN its' understated subtlety (something you could NEVER accuse Lemmy or Alan of!). Perhaps one of the reasons I like him so much is that he was so different from his predecessors (or successors), yet still fit perfectly into the overall Hawkwind sound circa 1977. I don't believe that any other person who's played bass with Hawkwind could have come up with parts like the warm, almost-bubbling bassline on "Spirit of the Age" (really essential for that song, since the guitar plays *two* chords the whole way through) or the melodic slides on "High Rise" that add to the detached drama of that tune. Also, having seen him several times with Bevis Frond (and Lemmy with Motorhead, for the all-important compare/contrast), I have been very very impressed. Since the Frond are touring the US soon, I assume this means that Adrian is in good health again, so I would strongly encourage you to see the band, even if only for Adrian's contributions (if you're not a Frond fan). All just my own opinions (based on my own observations), of course ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Apr 17 17:16:28 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:16:28 -0400 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:09:55 +0100, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >At 21:47 +0100 17.04.2001, colm mcwilliams wrote: >>why can't EMI (they own virgin now don't they?) get there finger out and >>repress the charims cd's and while there at it repress "warrior" too? > >The answer is that the market is currently flooded with great masses >of (let's face it) not terribly good recordings (or to put it more >kindly, fan-pleasing releases ;) There is no incentive for EMI to >release Hawkwind back-catalogue into that kind of situation... Point well taken. So why don't they license them to BGO/Castle (or whoever!) like they do all the other UA stuff they don't have the incentive to do themselves (like Man or the Calvert solo albums)? I don't care if these reissues aren't as deluxely-packaged as the EMI/UA reissues ... they'd still be better than Virgin's budget job on them! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Apr 17 17:24:48 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:24:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: HTML & unsubscribing In-Reply-To: <004801c0c5a0$9cae9420$3dcd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Michael W Blackman wrote: > What about freedom of speech? > Freedom of expression > Freedom to use your delete button > > > On 14 Apr 2001, at 10:46, Alissa wrote: > > > > > > Maybe this list need a moderator? Is somenone out there? Who could set > > > option to convert all html e-mails in text mode or just ban them. > > > > I would vote for banning them. > > > > --BArt I have fewer problems with most on HTML e-mails since I use a mail-reader that treats the text and the HTML as separate beasts. I also have fewer problems with generally low-content e-mails than some, but I can still very much see the force of an argument that says that you should trim off as much of the original mail as you can since people who get the digest will otherwise be getting mails many times over and not have that delete-key option. Please consider poor Richard now he's gone that way :-) Yours, Jon Jarrett -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Apr 17 17:40:14 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:40:14 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision In-Reply-To: <3AD93C09.1BBF10C5@petronet.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Tom Clark wrote: > "If only Astounding Sounds had been a well produced studio double album, think > what a classic that would have been." > > Huh? I think it is an excellently produced studio album and a classic in it's > own right.. Blew me away when I first heard it, though it was on a good sound > system in conjunction with some Moroccan Brown and headphones. Seemed like it > was designed for that. To this day, it's a classic in my book in that it > brought Bob Calvert's genius to the forefront, and still sounds awesome. A bit > muddy in places, but, man, that was an album that blew me emotionally away more > so than even Space Ritual. It displayed Bob Calvert's passion moreso than any > album he was featured on. It definitely fit the times, and still holds up to > this day, IMO. It is stuffed full of good little songs, but I can't agree with you about the production. Everything on it sounds miniature and deadened, nothing has any breadth or depth... On a really good stereo I guess the precision which is its virtue might come through and save it but on anything I've ever been able to afford it sounds tinny and uninteresting. If it wasn't for Calvert's words and, gods save me, `Aubergine' which I quite like, I'd have a hard time with ASAM. But your listening conditions were clearly better than mine are :-) Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Apr 17 17:40:03 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:40:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision In-Reply-To: <200104172116.RAA06106@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: At 17:16 -0400 17.04.2001, Douglas Pearson wrote: >Point well taken. So why don't they license them to BGO/Castle (or >whoever!) like they do all the other UA stuff they don't have the incentive >to do themselves (like Man or the Calvert solo albums)? That I don't know. Maybe they figure they can make more money by sitting on the recordings until the market is clearer and then releasing them themselves? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 17 19:53:14 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Alcoholicca) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:53:14 -0600 Subject: HW: (OFF) Doug Bates-private In-Reply-To: <000f01c0c77f$9fd53ce0$b8e1883e@bedroomt> Message-ID: Dear Doug...just tried to call you.....apparently your number has changed??? how'd you fare??? Mike Coleman From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 19:52:49 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:52:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: Good Suggestions for London record Shops Message-ID: I was in Ambient Soho last month and picked up stuff on FAX. There are a host of record shops in Berwick St, a good number of second hand ones. Just up Berwick St, from Ambient Soho, towards Oxford St, they're on the right hand of the Street. HMV and Virgin in Oxford St. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Rich Warren To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 17 April 2001 08:52 Subject: OFF: Good Suggestions for London record Shops >I'm doing a day shopping in London. > >Any good suggestions for good London record Shops? > >Ambient Soho is the first place I'm going because I know theyve got a sneaky >little stockpile of Planet Dog stuff ;-) > >Rich W > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 19:55:40 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:55:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: ORB Message-ID: Yeah, It's not bad...growing into it. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Nick Medford To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 17 April 2001 14:27 Subject: Re: OFF: ORB >On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:12:54 EDT, Bill Stewart wrote: > >>Usual suspects will be there! > >But who is Keyser Soze? > >Re. the Orb- anyone got the new album 'Cydonia' yet? Comments? Reviews I've >read suggest that they're coasting a bit. Listened to 'Pome Fritz' last >night for the first tme in ages and that's a pretty challenging album... >they seem to have played it comparatively safe since then. > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 19:58:24 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:58:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: Am I alone here in thinking that Ade Shaw was equal to Lemmy.....and none of the others come close. Dave -----Original Message----- From: bedroom trancer To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 17 April 2001 18:52 Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision >>From: "Douglas Pearson >>The diversity of >> bass playing on 'Atomhenge 76' is unquestionably impressive, but never >> quite matches either Lemmy's propulsive overdrive or Adrian Shaw's warmly >> melodic feel that fit so well with Simon House's keyboards. > > >is it just me? But I have never been impressed by adrian shaws bass playing. >I mean "quark strangness and charm" is my fav hawkwind album but its >calverts voice and lyrics, simon kings fantastic drumming, simon houses >brilliant violin and synth work and of course brocks guitar work(he even >plays a few solos!) that make the album so great for me. > >cheers > >colm > From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 19:12:21 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:12:21 -0400 Subject: Hawkon video Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:00:37 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >Twas Trev Hughes wot done it. You could contact him. Develop patience >though. I'm still waiting on the one I ordered in 1988. > >FoFP Lol....good idea! It could be worth a try. Alastair. From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 17 20:02:06 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:02:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision Message-ID: Whilst I love Capt Lockheed....I'm sorry to say Lucky Leif is just mince (bought it about 20 years ago - UA original). Hype is way better. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 17 April 2001 19:16 Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision >Horses for courses. I mean, Eno produced Lucky Leif and look how laid back >that sounds. > >Someone (may have been you, Doug?) posted that Rudolph got an EMS Synthi and >disappeared into his room prior to leaving the Fairies - I'd never heard >this before, any evidence to substantiate it? > >I have a great photo of him playing bass with the Hawks dressed in >sportsgear - if and when I get a scanner I'll post this one up. > >And how come Rudolph did the late '76 tour even though Powell and Turner had >gone? Had they nobody to replace him at that point? > >Captain Bl at ck. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Douglas Pearson >To: >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:57 AM >Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision > > >> On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:33:19 +0100, Captain Bl at ck >> wrote: >> >Thank you Mike. Astounding ISN'T a bad album at all, BUT the point I was >> >making here was if they'd used Time For Sale, Uncle Sam, Back on the >> >Streets, Assassins etc on the same album as Steppenwolf, Reefer Madness >> >and, yes, all the cool instrumentals............ >> >> Would it be more accurate to say a "second album by the Rudolph/Powell >> lineup" rather than "ASAM as a double LP"? (Since clearly some of those >> songs hadn't been written yet when ASAM was recorded - 'Atomhenge 76' >makes >> it clear that the lyrics to "Hassan i Sahba" weren't written until after >> that tour.) I wholeheartedly agree that those four songs should have been >> on a studio album together; heck, that probably edges out 'Earth Ritual' >as >> my favorite never-recorded-but-might-have-been/almost-was Hawkwind album. >> >> >The production lacks balls - the band certainly didn't as the live >material >> >will testify. Maybe that was Rudolph doing his Eno-esque mixes. Armchair >> >Hawkwind, anybody? >> >> At least it's not as laid-back as the Hawklords album. (the one which I >> generally referred to as "armchair"; and the live recordings by *that* >band >> kick ass, too) Now, if Paul Rudolph could have actually gotten Eno to >> *produce* it - wow! That could have really been something! >> >> I think that the main problem with ASAM is not that it's at all a bad >album >> ("Steppenwolf" is one of Calvert's best characterizations, "Kadu Flyer" is >> one of Nik's best, "City of Lagoons" perfectly captures the lazy, swampy, >> overbearingly-tropical mood of Ballard's 'The Drowned World' [quite >> obviously the inspiration for the piece], etc.), but rather that it falls >> between two of the best albums in Hawkwind's career ... in much the same >> way that Rudolph's bass playing is underrated since he fell between the >two >> best bassists in Hawkwind's career (and also because, as good as his bass >> playing is, it doesn't come CLOSE to his six-string work with the Pink >> Fairies on stuff like "Uncle Harry's Last Freakout"). The diversity of >> bass playing on 'Atomhenge 76' is unquestionably impressive, but never >> quite matches either Lemmy's propulsive overdrive or Adrian Shaw's warmly >> melodic feel that fit so well with Simon House's keyboards. >> >> -Doug >> ceres at sirius.com >> >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: The Devil >> >To: >> >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:27 PM >> >Subject: Re: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision >> > >> > >> >> Capt. Black said: >> >> >> >> "If only Astounding Sounds had been a well produced studio double >> >> album, think what a classic that would have been." > From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue Apr 17 19:23:36 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:23:36 -0400 Subject: HW: Dumpy's Rusty Nuts Message-ID: ++STAR WARRIORS++ New Message + + + + Long time friends of the Hawks Dumpy's Rusty Nuts are on a nationwide tour to mark their 20th Anniversery Please try to make a date or two..... Visit their dates schedule at http://freespace.virgin.net/dumpysrusty.nuts/9090704.htm Their gallery pages also contain some shots of the band with Hawkwind from across the years and even some taken by fans at Hawkestra. ++TRANSMISSION MESSAGE ENDS From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 17 20:27:12 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Ichet Butte') Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:27:12 -0600 Subject: Hawkon video In-Reply-To: <200104172312.TAA06926@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: FoFP had suggested: "Twas Trev Hughes wot done it. You could contact him. Develop patience though. I'm still waiting on the one I ordered in 1988." Thank god I was not put on earth all alone..... his booklets are very tasty, as well.... mike c From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Apr 17 19:13:06 2001 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:13:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Recent v Old (revisited) A Howl of Derision In-Reply-To: <00ca01c0c79a$4ae22700$0e4e893e@default> Message-ID: At 0:58 +0100 18.04.2001, david hall wrote: >Am I alone here in thinking that Ade Shaw was equal to Lemmy.....and none of >the others come close. Well, Ade and Lemmy have radically different bass-playing styles ... but both are quite good in their element. I'll take Alan over Ade in Hawkwind, but Ade over Lemmy in Bevis Frond :) Cheers, Carl Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET Tue Apr 17 22:14:57 2001 From: chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET (Chaos23) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:14:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: two questions Message-ID: maybe the reverend jim jones the psychotic vicar who talked a lot of people into killing themselves, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: Re: OFF: two questions > In message <4.2.0.58.20010415211514.00956de0 at pop.eunet.no>, > christmu at eunet.no writes > >Jim Jones & The Kool-Ade Kids - "...Trust > >Us"/"Contrafusion" > > Can't help but curious: is this the Jim Jones of Pere Ubu? > > -- > Nick Medford From chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET Tue Apr 17 22:26:29 2001 From: chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET (Chaos23) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:26:29 +0100 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups Message-ID: Any good suggestions for a fantasy hawkwind line up? here's mine Robert Calvert Dave Brock Lemmy Tim Blake Huw lloyd-langton Ginger baker Nik Turner Stacia Full Laser and Light Show Venue Stonehenge solstice 2001AD or Great Pyramids and a large lump of hash. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Apr 17 23:17:20 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:17:20 +0800 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups Message-ID: Chaos23 said: > Any good suggestions for a fantasy hawkwind line up? > here's mine > > Robert Calvert > Dave Brock > Lemmy > Tim Blake > Huw lloyd-langton > Ginger baker > Nik Turner > Stacia > Full Laser and Light Show > Venue Stonehenge solstice 2001AD or Great Pyramids > and a large lump of hash. > The ultimate for the Perth, Western Australia gig (now that's fantasy) Hawkwind line up is: Dave Brock - lead vocals/guitars (acoustic included) Ron Tree - lead vocals Huw Lloyd-Langton - lead guitar Alan Davey - bass/backing vocals Simon House - violin/keyboards Nik Turner - sax/backing vocals Harvey Bainbridge - keyboards Richard Chadwick - drums Bill From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Apr 17 22:09:06 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:09:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: New Aural Innovations Radio shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Aural Innovations Radio has just uploaded TWO NEW SHOWS in streaming RealAudio. (You can also download them if you prefer.) Aural Innovations is an online web-zine covering all forms of spacerock, psychedelia, electronica, and more eclectic forms of jazz and progressive rock. Our web site is LOADED with reviews, interviews, and articles. Announcement: The people have spoken! In addition to providing the higher bandwidth/better sound quality option, I am now breaking the shows up into three separate parts. I hope this makes things easier for all of you and isn't too confusing. Also, recent listener feedback has prompted me to start investigating ways to increase the sound quality of the low-bandwidth/modem option. More to come... Here is the playlist for the new radio shows: Show #25: Farflung Special Pressurehed - "Shockneck" (from Sudden Vertigo) Farflung - "25,000 Feet Per Second" (from 25,000 Feet Per Second) Farflung - "Greater Waters" (from 25,000 Feet Per Second) Pressurehed - "Man In Static" (from Sudden Vertigo) Farflung - "Alius Orbis" (from The Raven That Ate The Moon) Farflung - "The Way The Sky Is" (from So Many Minds, So Little Time) Anubian Lights - "The Fire Breathes" (from Let Not The Flame Die Out) Anubian Lights - "Ali Mamoun's Broken Entranceway" (from Let Not The Flame Die Out) Pressurehed - "The Long Count" (from Explaining The Unexplained) Farflung - "See You Up There" (from So Many Minds, So Little Time) Farflung - "Fingers Of The Sky Catcher" (from The Belief Module) The Brain - "Box" (from Access And Amplify) Zero Gravity - "Stonehenge Revisited" (from Space Does Not Care) Pressurehed - "Transgression Part 2 (from Explaining The Unexplained) Farflung - "Prototype Of A Traveler" (from The Myth Of Solid Ground) Farflung - "Those Clouds Are Solid" (from The Myth Of Solid Ground) Nik Turner - "Audio Energy" (from Past or Future?) Show #24: General Playlist Architectural Metaphor - "Sur Le Tour" (from Viva) Mandra Gora Lightshow Society - "A Common Race" (from Beyond The Mushroam Gate) Babylonian Tiles - "Each Dying Breath" (from Teknicolur Aftermath) The Moor - "Neo-Futurist Fantasy" (from Every Pixie Sells A Story) Scorched Earth - "Woman Gone Bad" (from Fed To Your Head) Vocabularinist - "Johnny Had A Low Sperm Count" (from Hasznasznisznasz) Green Pajamas - "Morning In Myra's Room" (from Serotonin Ronin II) Black Sun Ensemble - "Golden Rays" (from Black Sun Ensemble) Salamander - "Old Mr. Jones" (from Red Mantra) Flyte Reaction - "Water From Your Well" (from Sensilla) Heavy Liquid - "Crawlspace" (from Heavy Liquid) Scattered Planets - "Breath Mints For The Cobra Commander" Ultra Violet Rays - "Beaches" (from Den Of Desire) The Echo Orbiter - "Trippy Adventure Playground" (from A Moment In Life That's Right") Lynnea - "Hammer To Stone" (from Lynnea) Datura - "Mantra" (from Visions For The Celestial) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. Babylonian Tiles is on TOUR!!! Check out their spring 2001 tour dates at: http://www.babylonian-tiles.com/tour.htm http://Aural-Innovations.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Apr 17 22:54:54 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:54:54 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farvergflüngen und ISP Message-ID: Hey... Ummm...after the brief public (poobleeko) discussion (deskooseeon) about the track indexing for Farflung "25K' s^-1" I took a listen last night to see for myself - as I didn't remember any problems. And I don't know what the hell you're all talking about....seems perfectly indexed to me. There's seven tracks, and Tracks 2, 4, and 6 are obviously correct, since Track 2 (as has been pointed out) has the "Open Your Mouth" lyric in it multiple times. The title track is the same track as on the SD'97 CD, and anyway it has that lyric in it as well. And Track 6 (all 14 + minutes of it) is exactly the same (except that it's 3 times as loud) as the track on the Orange album (So Many Minds, So Little Time). Uh...so doesn't that automatically mean that *all* of the odd-numbered tracks surrounding these three are also correct? I'd have thunk so. I think there's some physical continuity equations I could cite right now, but what's the point? :) Haven't checked out Raven yet. Suppose the situation might well be different. All I know is...turn the bloody thing off before that 25 minutes of rubbish at the end! :) One thing that came of this...man is "25K' s^-1" a brilliant farking album! Holy crap! I guess I already knew that, but... Speaking of brilliant albums, I've quickly become addicted to this criminally short self-titled "Igra Staklenih Perli" album (1978) from Jugoslavia. (I believe it's only 28 minutes because the half-assed state-run recording studio people just plain lost two full tracks after the session...Aggghh!!) Thanks to Karen K. for coming up with the goods on this front! I'm going to pass on a CD-R copy or two to a few boc-l "luminaries" and perhaps it will become more widely known eventually (I'm shocked that I only got one response to my earlier query!). I gather the CD reissue may never see the light of day (or perhaps word of mouth will spread like this and force it to appear), and the damn vinyl starts at $80-100, so forget that! So I think it's ok. The album is really fricking great...like an edgier, more krautrocky Eloy (if you know what I mean, given that Eloy are German...duh) of the same period, like Inside/Floating/Ocean. Now to find some of the others, which I gather aren't quite so well regarded. Still... Grakkl (FAA) ObCD: Scorched Earth - Fed to your Hed (this *is* Bevis essentially, isn't it?) P.S. Who has the Acoustic Bevis tourdates? P.P.S. I like to see Tommy do up some "Farvergfl?ngen" t-shirts, though I suppose that joke is like, what, 15 years old now? :) P.P.P.S. What late-night American TV watcher gets the Spanish language joke? "I'm so low, I can see into your toe." Lo siento means... (An older classic...) P.P.P.P.S. Whoever has the worst success rate at answering these questions will be immediately thrown off the list for good...'You *ARE* the weakest link....goodbye.' (Was anybody else reminded of K-9 after seeing those stupid commercials for the last month? Maahs-TER!) From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Apr 18 00:44:34 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:44:34 EDT Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20OFF:=20Farvergfl=FCngen=20und=20ISP?= Message-ID: In a message dated 4/17/01 9:20:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > Ummm...after the brief public (poobleeko) discussion (deskooseeon) about the > track indexing for Farflung "25K' s^-1" I took a listen last night to see > for myself - as I didn't remember any problems. > > And I don't know what the hell you're all talking about....seems perfectly > indexed to me. There's seven tracks, and Tracks 2, 4, and 6 are obviously > correct, since Track 2 (as has been pointed out) has the "Open Your Mouth" > lyric in it multiple times. CORRECTION: It may be on yours and JJ's, but not mine! Or I'm crazy... I'll have to remember to bring it next time I visit England or Ohio. :) Chuck From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Wed Apr 18 02:15:58 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:15:58 -0600 Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph Message-ID: When was the Earth Ritual again? Could it possibly have been Andy Anderson? His name came up on another conversation I was having recently... Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Edmonds To: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:05 PM Subject: Re: HW: Trying to identify autograph > I'm positive it wasn't Ginger - he didn't play on the Earth Ritual tour > anyway did he? I can vaguely remember a medium height person with dark > shortish hair and a round face but I'm not sure. > > Regards, > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of bedroom trancer > > Sent: 16 April 2001 20:36 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: HW: Trying to identify autograph > > > > > > the only person i can think off that own that autograph is ginger baker if > > it was during hawkwinds time with bronze records?? > > > > cheers > > > > colm From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Apr 18 02:50:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:20:01 +0930 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups Message-ID: I'll go with that too!! > > The ultimate for the Perth, Western Australia gig (now that's fantasy) > Hawkwind line up is: > > Dave Brock - lead vocals/guitars (acoustic included) > Ron Tree - lead vocals > Huw Lloyd-Langton - lead guitar > Alan Davey - bass/backing vocals > Simon House - violin/keyboards > Nik Turner - sax/backing vocals > Harvey Bainbridge - keyboards > Richard Chadwick - drums > > Bill > From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Apr 18 04:41:03 2001 From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juba N) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:41:03 -0000 Subject: Farflung and Pink Faries Message-ID: Hi! What is "Live at Weeley" ? What?s on it? Juba >'Kings' is easy to get, Keith, if you want one, but the first two are >impossible. In fact, the only things currently flaoting around easily over >here are: >Kings Of Oblivion >Live at Roundhouse >Mandies and Mescaline >Live at Weeley >Do It >Golden Years '69-'71 >Kill Em And Eat Em >and possibly still the CD that combined the 6-track vinyl called 'Pink >Fairies' and Twink's 'Do It' 12" single >and possibly the 'No Picture' CD. >Anyone want ay more info on any of these then e.mail me at: >agcdser at aol.com >Andy Garibaldi >P.S. Heard a rumour today that Rudolph is not in the best of health to say >the least so would be interested to know if he's part of the line-up for >the >USA gig or not. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "K Henderson" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:33 AM >Subject: Re: Farflung and Pink Faries > > > > DD says... > > > > >Just noticed that Farflung and Pink Faries are playing the Club >Spaceland > > >in Los Angeles on Friday, April 27th. > > > > Ummm...cool. Are they (PF) touring nationwide? Didn't find much online >and > > Larry Wallis' site (www.pinkfairies.co.uk) hasn't been updated since >December. > > > > What is the current availability of their early works (on CD), like >Never > > Neverland and Kings of Oblivion? I remember that the latter at least is >not > > so easy to get (at least cheaply). Anybody know a good semi-inexpensive > > source for either? > > > > Who's the current band? Could early Motorhead (like On Parole) be > > incorporated into a PF set? Or is it? > > > > Thanks...Grakkl (FAA) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Apr 18 04:46:13 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:46:13 -0500 Subject: Farflung and Pink Faries Message-ID: That lp is not very good quality. Only get it if you are a big fairies fan.I don't know the track list off the top of my head. It has an excellent version of UNCLE HARRY"S LAST FREAKOUT but the sound makes it unbearable to listen to. Hope this helps STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Juba N [mailto:pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 3:41 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Farflung and Pink Faries Hi! What is "Live at Weeley" ? What?s on it? Juba >'Kings' is easy to get, Keith, if you want one, but the first two are >impossible. In fact, the only things currently flaoting around easily over >here are: >Kings Of Oblivion >Live at Roundhouse >Mandies and Mescaline >Live at Weeley >Do It >Golden Years '69-'71 >Kill Em And Eat Em >and possibly still the CD that combined the 6-track vinyl called 'Pink >Fairies' and Twink's 'Do It' 12" single >and possibly the 'No Picture' CD. >Anyone want ay more info on any of these then e.mail me at: >agcdser at aol.com >Andy Garibaldi >P.S. Heard a rumour today that Rudolph is not in the best of health to say >the least so would be interested to know if he's part of the line-up for >the >USA gig or not. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "K Henderson" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:33 AM >Subject: Re: Farflung and Pink Faries > > > > DD says... > > > > >Just noticed that Farflung and Pink Faries are playing the Club >Spaceland > > >in Los Angeles on Friday, April 27th. > > > > Ummm...cool. Are they (PF) touring nationwide? Didn't find much online >and > > Larry Wallis' site (www.pinkfairies.co.uk) hasn't been updated since >December. > > > > What is the current availability of their early works (on CD), like >Never > > Neverland and Kings of Oblivion? I remember that the latter at least is >not > > so easy to get (at least cheaply). Anybody know a good semi-inexpensive > > source for either? > > > > Who's the current band? Could early Motorhead (like On Parole) be > > incorporated into a PF set? Or is it? > > > > Thanks...Grakkl (FAA) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Wed Apr 18 05:33:44 2001 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:33:44 +1200 Subject: Digestive Digest/The Elf EP In-Reply-To: <200104180900.FAA09096@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >>Please consider poor Richard now he's gone that way. After the first two digests I was thinking "I,ve read that before" now I've sussed out the method (this is the first digest I've ever received) I'm learning to speed read. By the way I have a copy of Alan Davey's "The Elf EP" on the two 45's. Anyone know what its worth these days? It still retains the B&W photo insert with the article by Brian Tawn on the back. The vinyl is in mint condition only having been played 3 times. Regards Richard Cranium Music http://www.cranium.co.nz http://www.cranium-music.com From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Apr 18 07:44:29 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:44:29 +0800 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups Message-ID: Any line-up (almost) to Perth, WA would satisfy me as well!! William > I'll go with that too!! > > > > > The ultimate for the Perth, Western Australia gig (now that's fantasy) > > Hawkwind line up is: > > > > Dave Brock - lead vocals/guitars (acoustic included) > > Ron Tree - lead vocals > > Huw Lloyd-Langton - lead guitar > > Alan Davey - bass/backing vocals > > Simon House - violin/keyboards > > Nik Turner - sax/backing vocals > > Harvey Bainbridge - keyboards > > Richard Chadwick - drums > > > > Bill > > > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Apr 18 09:06:24 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:06:24 -0600 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups In-Reply-To: <001a01c0c7fc$edea1180$7bc63bcb@xl5jji166w6xlq> Message-ID: since this is a "Fantasy" tour of Perth? how about if they get the first 100% "gay" hawkwind tour.... Steve Swindells - lead vocals/guitars (acoustic included) Steve Swindells - lead vocals Steve swindells - bass/backing vocals Steve swindells - violin/keyboards Steve Swindells - sax/backing vocals Steve Swindells - keyboards Steve swindells - drums while we in states get: Dave Brock-lead vocals/guitars Dave Brock-lead vocals Dave Brock-bass/backing vocal Dave Brock-violin/keyboards Dave Brock-Korg saxxx Dave Brock-keyboards Richard C + Simon King (retraining)-drums.....(like on WARRIOR) Forgive me, Forgive me.....I know not what I do.... say "Tan"!!! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Apr 18 08:53:49 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:53:49 +0100 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind lineups Message-ID: How about a choir with: Sam Fox (vocals) Bridget Wishart (vocals) Dame Vera Lynn (vocals) Adrian Shaw (vocals) I think covers of "Men of Harlech", "Frere Jacques", and "Onward Christian Soldiers" would be pretty good. FoFP From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Wed Apr 18 08:55:22 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:55:22 -0500 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind lineups Message-ID: LEMMY could go on here also. -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 7:54 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind lineups How about a choir with: Sam Fox (vocals) Bridget Wishart (vocals) Dame Vera Lynn (vocals) Adrian Shaw (vocals) I think covers of "Men of Harlech", "Frere Jacques", and "Onward Christian Soldiers" would be pretty good. FoFP From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Wed Apr 18 08:59:57 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:59:57 +0100 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind lineups Message-ID: NO!!!!! I'm quivering in the corner scared now - what an abhorrent thought. It's cool - deep breaths. Sam Liked the 'Men of Harlech' idea though.... -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] Sent: 18 April 2001 13:54 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind lineups How about a choir with: Sam Fox (vocals) Bridget Wishart (vocals) Dame Vera Lynn (vocals) Adrian Shaw (vocals) I think covers of "Men of Harlech", "Frere Jacques", and "Onward Christian Soldiers" would be pretty good. FoFP *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Apr 18 09:13:10 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:43:10 +0930 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups Message-ID: Hey - if we're talking fantasies here - add my name to the list that WOULD be my fantasy Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: William Duffy To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups > Any line-up (almost) to Perth, WA would satisfy me as well!! > > William > > > I'll go with that too!! > > > > > > > > The ultimate for the Perth, Western Australia gig (now that's fantasy) > > > Hawkwind line up is: > > > > > > Dave Brock - lead vocals/guitars (acoustic included) > > > Ron Tree - lead vocals > > > Huw Lloyd-Langton - lead guitar > > > Alan Davey - bass/backing vocals > > > Simon House - violin/keyboards > > > Nik Turner - sax/backing vocals > > > Harvey Bainbridge - keyboards > > > Richard Chadwick - drums > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Apr 18 09:14:49 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:44:49 +0930 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups Message-ID: oohhhh - thou art a sinner!!! tee hee Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike C To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:36 PM Subject: Re: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups > since this is a "Fantasy" tour of Perth? how about if they get the first > 100% "gay" hawkwind tour.... > > Steve Swindells - lead vocals/guitars (acoustic included) > Steve Swindells - lead vocals > Steve swindells - bass/backing vocals > Steve swindells - violin/keyboards > Steve Swindells - sax/backing vocals > Steve Swindells - keyboards > Steve swindells - drums > > > while we in states get: > > Dave Brock-lead vocals/guitars > Dave Brock-lead vocals > Dave Brock-bass/backing vocal > Dave Brock-violin/keyboards > Dave Brock-Korg saxxx > Dave Brock-keyboards > Richard C + Simon King (retraining)-drums.....(like on WARRIOR) > > > Forgive me, Forgive me.....I know not what I do.... > > say "Tan"!!! > From christmu at EUNET.NO Wed Apr 18 09:09:04 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:09:04 +0200 Subject: OFF: two questions Message-ID: >maybe the reverend jim jones the psychotic vicar who talked a lot of people >into killing themselves, Well, yes, and who can forget the B movie from 1978 based on the story... > In message <4.2.0.58.20010415211514.00956de0 at pop.eunet.no>, > christmu at eunet.no writes > >Jim Jones & The Kool-Ade Kids - "...Trust > >Us"/"Contrafusion" > > Can't help but curious: is this the Jim Jones of Pere Ubu? Doubt it. Though they were American there was no actual Jim Jones in the band... Kind of hardocore goth-punk, mid 80s, from the Midwest somewhere. Chr. ObTape: Voivod - Hartford, CT 1987 > -- > Nick Medford "Playing golf with a Brahman is better than shooting the shit with a Praner." - Tubrok The Alterer From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Apr 18 10:35:12 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:35:12 -0600 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups In-Reply-To: <000f01c0c809$8d0eeb80$6ccd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: The "Electric Tee-Hee" down under said: "oohhhh - thou art a sinner!!!" which one of us Michael, and why do you feel like that??? am I that far off??? mKultra From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Apr 18 10:52:22 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:52:22 -0600 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: and for the "more clenched" factions out there...... I have Nothing against Steve Swindells, I don't know if he's Gay or Straight or in-between, I'd simply heard he's participated in "Gay Rights" activities in the past..... this is what my "Lighthearted" humor was based on..... re: MY Australian "Fantasy Line-up" Joke,,,,,so Steve...if your out there, I'll buy the LP man, and don't freak at all........no need...... mikey From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Apr 18 10:09:32 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:09:32 +0800 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike C" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups > since this is a "Fantasy" tour of Perth? how about if they get the first > 100% "gay" hawkwind tour.... > > Steve Swindells - lead vocals/guitars (acoustic included) > Steve Swindells - lead vocals > Steve swindells - bass/backing vocals > Steve swindells - violin/keyboards > Steve Swindells - sax/backing vocals > Steve Swindells - keyboards > Steve swindells - drums &&&&&&& Mike C. - triangle > say "Tan"!!! Tan From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Apr 18 11:59:54 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:59:54 -0600 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups In-Reply-To: <00a901c0c811$319f5a20$62b53bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: Bill & Cynthia added me to Australian Fantasy playlist: "&&&&&&& Mike C. - triangle" ........................ and I'll even invert the thing to really get into the spirit of it!!! just get me Steve's address or telefone so I can make best friends with him fast........ From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Apr 18 11:20:21 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:20:21 -0500 Subject: OFF: Nerds are rampant sex machines... Message-ID: Go geeks! ;) http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/18340.html -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Apr 18 12:08:35 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:08:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: two questions In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010418145623.00955d60@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: > > Can't help but curious: is this the Jim Jones of Pere Ubu? > >Doubt it. Though they were American there was no actual Jim Jones in the >band Probably not then! Just wondered as there's a bewildering array of Ubu spin- off projects, and "Trust Us" sounded like it might be a Beefheart cover, which might have fit with it being _that_ Jones... So presumably named after the late and very thanatoid Rev Jones out in Guyana. Psychic TV released an album that claimed to be recordings of the "Last Supper".... recall poring over this ghoulish item in a shop before deciding I really *didn't* need this stuff... has anyone here actually heard this record? -- Nick Medford From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Apr 18 12:20:22 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:20:22 +0100 Subject: OFF: Farvergflngen und ISP In-Reply-To: <200104180406.AAA04808@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: In message <200104180406.AAA04808 at mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K Henderson writes >P.P.P.P.S. Whoever has the worst success rate at answering these questions >will be immediately thrown off the list for good...'You *ARE* the weakest >link....goodbye.' (Was anybody else reminded of K-9 after seeing those >stupid commercials for the last month? Maahs-TER!) Been very happy to read that this execrable show has been panned by critics in the States. I have loathed Ann Robinson ever since an enormous poster of her self-satisfied face was put up directly across the road from a bedsit I once inhabited in Hammersmith. Must be almost 10 years ago but I still remember my irritation every time I glanced out the window and saw her smug little smirk. Here's hoping the inexplicable success of this utterly untalented harridan finally comes to an end in the US. There I feel better now. -- Nick Medford From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Apr 18 12:45:08 2001 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:45:08 -0400 Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph In-Reply-To: <00d801c0c7cf$156e9420$ab6ba58e@pavilion>; from blyoung@BIGFOOT.COM on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 12:15:58AM -0600 Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 12:15:58AM -0600, BL Young wrote: > When was the Earth Ritual again? Could it possibly have been Andy Anderson? > His name came up on another conversation I was having recently... Early 1984. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Wed Apr 18 13:12:22 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:12:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: two questions Message-ID: Nick Medford wrote: > So presumably named after the late and very thanatoid Rev Jones out in > Guyana. Psychic TV released an album that claimed to be recordings of the > "Last Supper".... recall poring over this ghoulish item in a shop before > deciding I really *didn't* need this stuff... has anyone here actually heard > this record? Not the Psychic TV album, no, but I suspect their source was a radio show that I did tape. It was twenty years ago, so my memories are a bit confused so please make allowances. There were two competing books written about Jonestown. One served as the basis for the TV movie. The author of the other book produced a radio show on National Public Radio that was made from tapes Jim Jones had made of many services including the Last Supper. (The author got the tapes from the government through the Freedom of Information Act.) Concrete Blonde used a segment as the intro to their song "Jonestown." In the early eighties I was in an electronic band called Totentanz. (The local paper reviewed us as "The perfect wedding band - for the Bride of Frankenstein." (-8) I went through the Jonestown tape and extracted bits of laughter onto a cassette tape until I had about four minutes. I would then play the tape through my effects chain for further mutations. Yeah, kinda sick. I'm so sick that I even have one of Jones's pre-Jonestown albums, but it's nothing special, just sermonettes with organ music interludes. The guy who owned it didn't want it in his store and was happy to give it to me. The scary thing about the Jonestown tapes is they make it quite clear how far gone Jones was. And still people did as he told them to. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Apr 18 13:19:28 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:19:28 -0400 Subject: How many dimensions in Dr. Who Space? Message-ID: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "Some men see things as they are and say 'Why?' I dream things that never were and say 'Why not?'" --Robert Kennedy From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Wed Apr 18 13:53:49 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:53:49 -0400 Subject: additional Sloterdijk acoustic gig Message-ID: Thursday, April 26th: "The Lyrical Lounge" Burlington County College ( student lounge/Parker Center building) There will be poets, musicians, story tellers etc..This event is sponsored by "The Creative Writers Guild". FREE!!!! Time 7-10 PM Burlingon County College County Route 530 Pemberton, NJ 08068-1599 (609) 894-9311 www.bcc.edu Also remember we will be at "The Drums and Space Place" of "The Greenstreet Ice Cream Cafe and Coffeehouse" this saturday night, April 21..see website calendar for details at: www.mp3.com/sloterdijk cheers, Sloterdijk www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 18 14:40:32 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:40:32 -0400 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind lineups Message-ID: Haha! Ade's definitely the only (male) member of Hawkwind with a singing voice high enough to pull that off (unless you count Tim Blake, but I prefer not to use the term "singing voice" in the same sentence as that name). -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:59:57 +0100, Sam Kirwan wrote: >NO!!!!! I'm quivering in the corner scared now - what an abhorrent >thought. It's cool - deep breaths. > >Sam > >Liked the 'Men of Harlech' idea though.... > >-----Original Message----- >From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] >Sent: 18 April 2001 13:54 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind lineups > > >How about a choir with: > >Sam Fox (vocals) >Bridget Wishart (vocals) >Dame Vera Lynn (vocals) >Adrian Shaw (vocals) > >I think covers of "Men of Harlech", "Frere Jacques", and "Onward >Christian Soldiers" would be pretty good. > > >FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Apr 18 13:50:54 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:50:54 +0100 Subject: Farflung and Pink Faries Message-ID: I will service a track list if you want but it is a live album from '71 or thereabouts and the recording quality is just DREADFUL - one of the worst you will ever hear on CD - if that doesn't put you off then let me know and I will get a track list for you. Andy G (CD Services) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juba N" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:41 AM Subject: Re: Farflung and Pink Faries > Hi! > > What is "Live at Weeley" ? > What?s on it? > > Juba > > >'Kings' is easy to get, Keith, if you want one, but the first two are > >impossible. In fact, the only things currently flaoting around easily over > >here are: > >Kings Of Oblivion > >Live at Roundhouse > >Mandies and Mescaline > >Live at Weeley > >Do It > >Golden Years '69-'71 > >Kill Em And Eat Em > >and possibly still the CD that combined the 6-track vinyl called 'Pink > >Fairies' and Twink's 'Do It' 12" single > >and possibly the 'No Picture' CD. > >Anyone want ay more info on any of these then e.mail me at: > >agcdser at aol.com > >Andy Garibaldi > >P.S. Heard a rumour today that Rudolph is not in the best of health to say > >the least so would be interested to know if he's part of the line-up for > >the > >USA gig or not. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "K Henderson" > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:33 AM > >Subject: Re: Farflung and Pink Faries > > > > > > > DD says... > > > > > > >Just noticed that Farflung and Pink Faries are playing the Club > >Spaceland > > > >in Los Angeles on Friday, April 27th. > > > > > > Ummm...cool. Are they (PF) touring nationwide? Didn't find much online > >and > > > Larry Wallis' site (www.pinkfairies.co.uk) hasn't been updated since > >December. > > > > > > What is the current availability of their early works (on CD), like > >Never > > > Neverland and Kings of Oblivion? I remember that the latter at least is > >not > > > so easy to get (at least cheaply). Anybody know a good semi-inexpensive > > > source for either? > > > > > > Who's the current band? Could early Motorhead (like On Parole) be > > > incorporated into a PF set? Or is it? > > > > > > Thanks...Grakkl (FAA) > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Apr 18 19:26:03 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:26:03 -0600 Subject: HW -public apology In-Reply-To: <3ADDCCA0.4050301@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: Dear list.. very ashamed and embarrassed of lack of forethought, and bad-taste in thinking I was funny or cute.... I AM , REALLY SORRY, EMBARRASSED.... I must go cover my face now.... bye... Mike Coleman From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Wed Apr 18 18:34:57 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:34:57 -0500 Subject: HW -public apology Message-ID: Aww... it's all right Mike. I'm sure even those of us on the list who are gay took it in good humor. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Dear list.. > > very ashamed and embarrassed of lack of forethought, and bad-taste in > thinking I was funny or cute.... > > > I AM , REALLY SORRY, EMBARRASSED.... > > > I must go cover my face now.... > > bye... > > > Mike Coleman From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Apr 18 19:43:03 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:43:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: two questions In-Reply-To: <3ADDCAF6.262CB08B@pa.msu.edu> Message-ID: In message <3ADDCAF6.262CB08B at pa.msu.edu>, John McIntyre writes >Nick Medford wrote: > >> So presumably named after the late and very thanatoid Rev Jones out in >> Guyana. Psychic TV released an album that claimed to be recordings of the >> "Last Supper".... recall poring over this ghoulish item in a shop before >> deciding I really *didn't* need this stuff... has anyone here actually heard >> this record? > >Not the Psychic TV album, no, but I suspect their source was a radio show that I > >did tape. Interesting... my memories on this are hazy too, but I think the "Last Supper" sleevenotes claimed that there were only two copies of the recordings- one was in the hands of the CIA, and the other had mysteriously made its way into the grubby mitts of G.P-O. and friends. I had a hard time believing this but if they got it from this author who in turn got it from the Gov., then it's certainly possible. > Yeah, kinda sick. No judgements from me on that... I didn't buy the record but I confess to some residual curiosity as to what exactly it would have sounded like. >The scary thing about the Jonestown tapes is they make it quite clear how far >gone >Jones was. And still people did as he told them to. Well, that's true of a myriad political and/or religious figures, no? PTV always used that as their argument for their "research and documentation" on figures like Jones, Manson et al: that it was important to document this stuff as it showcased uncomfortable facts about human nature which we shouldn't sweep under the carpet. True enough, but also a convenient intellectual rationalisation for a more basic morbid interest, in my view. Thanks for the info -- Nick Medford From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 18 19:57:30 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:57:30 EDT Subject: HW -public apology Message-ID: In a message dated 4/18/01 5:25:25 PM US Eastern Standard Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > I must go cover my face now.... > > Show yer face,bro! Lift it up and show Ol' Man Sunshine, just wear some shades and sunblock! "In the train, in the tunnel, you're just rockin,' you're just rollin' on." Joe From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Apr 18 20:30:49 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:30:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies and Deviants recommendations In-Reply-To: <003b01c0c775$619c2ce0$da61883e@bedroomt> Message-ID: In message <003b01c0c775$619c2ce0$da61883e at bedroomt>, colm mcwilliams writes >after reading alot about them on this ng i have been meaning to buy a few >cd's by the pink faires and or deviants and wondered if anyone could >recomend any to me??? Fairies: basically the 3 studio albums from the early 70s- "Never Never Land", "What a Bunch Of Sweeties" and "Kings of Oblivion"- remain the best starting point, though another thread indicates that Kings is the only one easily obtainable. Beyond that there's a bewildering array of compilations, live and unreleased stuff, but it's probably best tackled after the core releases. There are also a number of releases by reformed versions of the band, with at least 2 different factions represented, but these are of secondary importance IMHO. Deviants: can't comment much, only one I have is the self-titled one from '67 or thereabouts, which is almost like a UK street-punk version of the early Mothers of Invention... many love it, though for me it's extremely dated and of historical interest only. But Mick Farren's kept the Deviants name alive to this day and there are any number of releases, which like you I keep meaning to investigate. Someone else will have to come in on that... -- Nick Medford From chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET Wed Apr 18 20:13:00 2001 From: chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET (Chaos23) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:13:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: two questions Message-ID: i haven't heard the record but i saw a psychic tv video performance of the last supper along with some other strange and disturbing stuff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: Re: OFF: two questions > > > Can't help but curious: is this the Jim Jones of Pere Ubu? > > > >Doubt it. Though they were American there was no actual Jim Jones in the > >band > > Probably not then! Just wondered as there's a bewildering array of Ubu spin- > off projects, and "Trust Us" sounded like it might be a Beefheart cover, > which might have fit with it being _that_ Jones... > > So presumably named after the late and very thanatoid Rev Jones out in > Guyana. Psychic TV released an album that claimed to be recordings of the > "Last Supper".... recall poring over this ghoulish item in a shop before > deciding I really *didn't* need this stuff... has anyone here actually heard > this record? > -- > Nick Medford From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 18 21:08:58 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:08:58 -0400 Subject: Farflung and Pink Faries Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:21:05 -0400, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] wrote: >Just noticed that Farflung and Pink Faries are playing the Club Spaceland >in Los Angeles on Friday, April 27th. Further information from Bob Lee ... >Announcing the return of the PINK FAIRIES LA FEATURING TWINK: >Friday April 27 at SPACELAND (1717 Silver Lake Blvd). It's him, >the olde English dude that wrote & sang "Do It" and played drums >on "SF Sorrow". His Fairies this time out are represented by the >band BACKBITER and we promise a very loud & faithful set that fans >of "Never Never Land" will eat right up. Also appearing are space- >sensitive earthlings FARFLUNG, sometimes seen as members of NIK >TURNER'S HAWKWIND, you can imagine it's Glastonbury Fayre 71 all >over again. 9:30 PM ... who also saw fit to include ... >In case you missed it, here's my Memorial Haiku For Joey Ramone, >one of the greatest who ever lived (even if you saw it, there's >some new ones I just wrote this minte): > >First rule is: reduce! >Broken down: "1-2-3-4!" >As manifesto > >Joey in heaven: >Calls Jim Morrison "loser", >Parties with Ray Kroc > >Tall, weird dude proclaims >"I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend"; >It's love at first sight > >Alive yesterday, >But dead today, God damn it! >Gabba Gabba Heck. > >Front page news in death - >"Tomorrow the world", indeed! >Punks better off dead? > >Riff Randall, distraught, >Rips out heart, puts on pizza; >Did it for "true love" > >Ramones' first album: >Forever in car tape case; >Comes in handy soon. > >Seventeen, fucked up, >Screaming "Sheena" in the street. >God, I love punk rock. > >I wanna be well >Wanna wanna wanna /yeah! >I wanna be well -Doug ceres at sirius.com From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Apr 18 21:51:27 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:51:27 -0400 Subject: BOC: Delayed Stalk-Forrest Group Message-ID: According to sources(a.k.a. the BOC newsgroup), the Rhino Handmade disc was not mailed out today because packaging errors. So.... the 23rd of April will be shippin' day. I wonder if BOC goes on toru this summer if they'll play some songs off of the disc, in honor of its release. or at least some of the bonus tracks from the remasters.... I think of the recent (predicted) glut of BOC merch musicwise as a gooooood possibilty for the band to completely overhaul the setlist to include stuff from (almost) every era -- a lil SFg (how cool would Gil blanco count y be live! they already know the ending (since its in Dont fear the reaper live) , unreleased rockers of o' the remasters,a heap of NEW songs of of Curse of the hidden mirrors (CotHM?), and hopefully Id like to see you in black or damaged... This is the most stable the BOC linup has been in years after all. (imagine how shocked novices to BOC would be to NOT hear the big 3 live heheheh... ah the fun! Tour should be called curse of the hidden cowbell tour in honor of the "cool" people who bring one to bang incessantly during DFtR) Any word anywhere on who is doing the artwork for the New album? Jason From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Wed Apr 18 17:42:35 2001 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Sara Zaza) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:42:35 -0000 Subject: HW/Igra Staklenih Perli Message-ID: Thus spake Grakkl (FAA): Message-ID: In article <200104171100.MAA17702 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Alastair Lee Sumner writes: > >> Hi, does anyone know if it is still possible to buy or get hold of the >> video made at the Hawkwind convention in 1984 or 85 in Manchester. A very >> young version of me was there and I'd love to watch the video again. > >Twas Trev Hughes wot done it. You could contact him. Develop patience >though. I'm still waiting on the one I ordered in 1988. > >FoFP You might want to jog his memory! I'm getting mailouts on a near weekly basis at the moment. He seems to be going through an efficient phase or something... -- Jon From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Thu Apr 19 06:04:54 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:04:54 -0400 Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies Message-ID: At http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=PINK_FAIRIES&s= You can get; Albums: CDs (UK) LIVE ROUNDHOUSE PLUS ?12.84 buy CDWIK965 MANDIES & MESCALINE ROUND AT UNCLE HARRY ?8.80 buy PILOT31 THE GOLDEN YEARS 19691971 ?15.20 buy CLP01882 Albums: CDs (Imports) Price Catalog # Notes DO IT! ?15.59 buy 3017BOM2 US KINGS OF OBLIVION (IMPORTED) ?33.96 buy VPJ-072 Japan NO PICTURE (U.K.IMPORTED) ?20.70 buy CTCD-116 Japan WHAT A BUNCH OF SWEETIES (IMPORTED) ?33.96 buy VPJ-073 Japan Albums: LPs Price Catalog # Notes DO IT! ?11.51 buy 3017BOM1 US Stuart From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Apr 19 07:18:56 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:18:56 -0400 Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:15:58 -0600, BL Young wrote: >When was the Earth Ritual again? Could it possibly have been Andy Anderson? I think he'd been and gone by then. As the only black member he'd have been pretty recognisable surely. There's a coupla pics of him at www.d-rider.de From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Thu Apr 19 07:43:43 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:43:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet Message-ID: In a fit of boredom:- Caught the last 40 minutes of a crap sci-fi film with Kurt Russell and Jason Scot Lee on Cable last night, heard some music and thought "I recognise that", checked the credits and saw Power Trip - Monster Magnet. Anyone else catch it ? FWIW - Dr Hasbeen - 28th April at The Whitehouse, Derby A solid 90% Hawks set, with 4kw sound rig set to go. AFAIK admission ?2.00 on the door (it's a night club) Loadsa denim 'n' Leather clad people shall abound and we'll weaken their knees with the levle of sound. Come down and join in if ya want. Mark (Hasbeen). From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu Apr 19 07:47:48 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:47:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Interview tapes Message-ID: Hi , I did an Interview with Hawkwind back in '81 ( sonic attack tour) for Radio Bristol. Interview was about 12 minutes in length with Huw Lloyd Langton ( chain smoking three strands of rolling bacci in a rizzla) & Martin Griffin. Pretty nieve questions as I was 14 at the time. Will attempt to copy it from Tape onto my PC. then I'll be able to burn it onto CD. Can anyone suggest the best way of recording tape onto a CD ( its something I've not tried yet) regards iain John Majka wrote: > Well if music doesn't really interest you, we can bypass the list > then. Basically I have a 90-minute tape of compiled interviews circa > 1977 to circa 1984 with such members as Robert Calvert, Dave Brock, > Simon King, Harvey Bainbridge, Michael Moorcock. Then I have the Dave > Brock interview from the Flicknife boxed set. And the 15 minute or so > interview from the Westwind Tape from the 1989 USA tour... that's it > as far as interviews go.John Majkajmajka2 at home.com > > Hi John,Would you mind copying, pasting and then e-mailing > me your interview HW list please, as I'm not one for huge > lists.Ta,Jez > > ----- Original Message -----From: John MajkaTo: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDUSent: Tuesday, April 10, > 2001 10:27 PMSubject: Re: HW: Interview tapes Well > I certainly wouldn't mind getting my hands on > those interviews... I have a couple myself, on my > list...http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac/tapes.htmlJohn > Majkajmajka2 at home.com > > Hi,In all my time on BOC-L I don't > recall anyone ever discussing HW audio > interviews (radio or otherwise).Does > anyone else collect these?At the last > count I think I had 8 C90's worth.If > anyone cares to list and/or swap what > they've got then please let me know what > you've got.Cheers,Jez > From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Thu Apr 19 07:48:02 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:48:02 +0200 Subject: totalrock cdr In-Reply-To: <91BAA0121CBDD31183B400A0CC585F7103C1C1@BRIGHTON> Message-ID: hi is there anywhere on the internet a cover for the totalrock cdr for download ? or has someone produced one and wants to share it here with me/us ? andre From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Apr 19 07:58:03 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:28:03 +0930 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups Message-ID: ahhh - we are all sinners are we not my brother? Yours reverently Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike C To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups > The "Electric Tee-Hee" down under said: > > "oohhhh - thou art a sinner!!!" > > which one of us Michael, and why do you feel like that??? am I that far off??? > > mKultra From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Apr 19 07:56:13 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:56:13 EDT Subject: BOC: Delayed Stalk-Forrest Group In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010418215127.00693dd0@acmenet.net> Message-ID: On 18 Apr 2001, at 21:51, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > According to sources(a.k.a. the BOC newsgroup), > the Rhino Handmade disc was not mailed out today because packaging > errors. So.... the 23rd of April will be shippin' day. > You must be psycho...er...psychic! I was wondering this last night, and intended to ask about it today... > I wonder if BOC goes on toru this summer if they'll play some songs > off of the disc, in honor of its release. or at least some of the > bonus tracks from the remasters.... Don't bet your Procol Harum collection on it...if they play anything unusual, it'll be from Curse of the Hidden Mirror... > I think of the recent (predicted) glut of BOC merch musicwise as a > gooooood possibilty for the band to completely overhaul the setlist to > include stuff from (almost) every era -- a lil SFg (how cool would Gil > blanco count y be live! they already know the ending (since its in > Dont fear the reaper live) , unreleased rockers of o' the remasters,a Yeah, but who wrote those tunes? If they're Albert's songs, I don't think the group would have the balls to play them. Never know, though... > heap of NEW songs of of Curse of the hidden mirrors (CotHM?), and > hopefully Id like to see you in black or damaged... This is the most > stable the BOC linup has been in years after all. > > (imagine how shocked novices to BOC would be to NOT hear the big 3 > live heheheh... ah the fun! It's be fun for me, but don't hold yer breath for that one... Tour should be called curse of the hidden > cowbell tour in honor of the "cool" people who bring one to bang > incessantly during DFtR) > Way to go! Thanks for reminding me of that sad experience. Still, a great show. Hope they get back to that venue this summer... theo From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Apr 19 08:02:55 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:32:55 +0930 Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph Message-ID: Do I feel rather stoopid or whut? Mb <<< Feel free to query me on that peeps..... >>> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 12:15:58AM -0600, BL Young wrote: > > When was the Earth Ritual again? Could it possibly have been Andy Anderson? > > His name came up on another conversation I was having recently... > > Early 1984. > > -- > From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Thu Apr 19 08:03:05 2001 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:03:05 -0400 Subject: HW/Igra Staklenih Perli Message-ID: Sara Zaza wrote: > > Anyone have any suggestions on HW influenced bands that were their > contemporaries in the early/mid 70s? One that comes to mind for me is the > band Lava, German band that released 1 lp for Brain in '73. Schizophrenic > lp, not all of it is HW sounding but a few tracks REALLY are close, > especially the leadoff track which could've come straight off > ISOS/DoReMi....TRC reissued the lp in '93 on CD. Hmm, I think my copy of the Lava album is on Brain, but that's from memory and the disc is at home. The leadoff track is great, even if the lyrics don't make any sense. ("Get me ready for the show"???) Produced by Connie Planck who even contributes lead guitar to one track. Cosmic Overdose from Sweden is a very Hawkwind/Amon Duul II sounding band. I've got two albums on vinyl but have been unable to find any CDs. Vocals are in Swedish so I have no idea what they are singing about, but the music has a high blanga score. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Apr 19 11:08:44 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:08:44 -0700 Subject: totalrock cdr In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20010419134641.009e2eb0@pop.cablewanadoo.nl> Message-ID: I've made one, which I can knock down in resolution and put somewhere... KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of cosmos at WANADOO.NL Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:48 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: totalrock cdr hi is there anywhere on the internet a cover for the totalrock cdr for download ? or has someone produced one and wants to share it here with me/us ? andre From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Thu Apr 19 11:25:00 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:25:00 +0200 Subject: totalrock cdr In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 08:08 19-4-01 -0700, you wrote: >I've made one, which I can knock down in resolution and put somewhere... > >KevinSommers now that's something i want to see or you can email it to my mailbox. but maybe you want to share it with all of us. andre >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of cosmos at WANADOO.NL >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:48 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: totalrock cdr > > >is there anywhere on the internet a cover for the totalrock cdr for download >? >or has someone produced one and wants to share it here with me/us ? > >andre From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Apr 19 11:33:31 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:33:31 -0400 Subject: totalrock cdr Message-ID: cosmos at WANADOO.NL wrote: > At 08:08 19-4-01 -0700, you wrote: > >> I've made one, which I can knock down in resolution and put somewhere... >> >> KevinSommers > > > now that's something i want to see or you can email it to my mailbox. > but maybe you want to share it with all of us. > > andre > Kevin and Andre Perhaps you would be to post it to the Yahoo Hawkwind group "files" section. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hawkwind/files/ And maybe post a link as to where it is stored on the web itself. Mike In Troy NY -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "Some men see things as they are and say 'Why?' I dream things that never were and say 'Why not?'" --Robert Kennedy From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Apr 19 13:39:47 2001 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:39:47 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ozrix News Message-ID: Hey Now! I am proud to say that the virus is gone!!! It was only effecting (or is affecting?) my Outlook Express account which I greatly prefer over Hotmail. If anyone needs to get in touch, please use that addy: hawkwind at mediaone.net And now...... Ello Erpers. This months mailout starts with some sad news. Some of you may have seen this announcement on the Ozric website. It is with sincere regret that we have to announce the departure of Rad from the Ozric Tentacles. Rad has, by his own admission on the message board been suffering from stress related problems and sadly the situation has deteriorated to a point where it is affecting the progress of the band. Ed,John, Zia,Seaweed, the management and everyone at Stretchy Records are extremely upset that this has had to happen and have done their utmost to try and preserve the situation. Rad joined the Ozrics in 1994 after the sudden departure of Merv. His explosive and intense style breathed new life into the band both in the studio and on stage. Rad gave 110% in every performance and is certainly one of the most exciting live drummers on the live scene. His outstanding studio performances can be heard on the four albums he appeared on, namely Become The Other, Curious Corn, Waterfall Cities and The Hidden Step, with a fine example of his live playing on the streamed internet release Spice Doubt. The next fanclub magazine "Ozracle" will be dedicated to Rad with a special feature and interview. Rad's replacement is Stuart Fisher(or "Schoo" as he prefers to be known) who was formerly with festi-dub band The Rhythmites. Schoo's live debut with the band will be at the Mylos Club in Salonika, Greece(details below). More details about Schoo can be found on the bands website. NEW EP!! Ozric Tentacles release a new EP entitled "PYRAMIDION" on May 21st. The EP features brand new studio track "Pyramidion" plus four live tracks from The Hidden Step tour 2000. The live tracks are Aramanu, Sultana Detrii, Xingu and Pixel Dream. US fans please bear in mind that we are currently without a label over there, so the CD will be available to purchase on the website. THE TOUR DATES!! April 6 - Mylos Club - Salonika GREECE 7 - Rodon Club - Athens GREECE UK TOUR 3 - Bristol - New Trinity 0117 929 9008 (www.trinitycentre.co.uk) 4 - Penzance - Acorn Theatre 01736 365520 5 - Exeter - Phoenix A/C 01392 667080 6 - Plymouth - Cooperage, Vauxhall Street 01752 229275 9 - Cambridge - Junction 01223 511511/01223 357851/0115 9129000 10 - Northampton - Roadmender 01604 604222 11 - Leicester - Charlotte 0116 255 3956 (www.thecharlotte.co.uk) 12 - Harlow - Square 01279 305000 13 - Oxford - Bullingdon Arms, Cowley Road 01865 244516 14 - Norwich - Arts Centre 01603 660352 16 - Birmingham - The Foundry 01902 552121 , 0121 633 3964 17 - Ashton Under Lyme - The Witchwood 0161 344 0321 (www.witchwood-live.com) 18 - St. Helens - The Citadel 01744 735436 (www.citadel.org.uk) 21 - Middlesborough - The Dickens tbc 22 - Manchester - University Hop And Grape 0161 832 1122/0161 275 2930/0151 7094321 (www.ticketline.co.uk) 23 - Leeds - Irish Centre 0113 245 5570 24 - Edinburgh - Liquid Room 0131 226 7010/0870 220 1116 (www.ticketweb.co.uk) (www.wayahead.com) 25 - Glasgow - Renfrew Ferry 0141 287 5511/0141 248 8089/0870 220 1116 27 - Crewe - Box office is Ticketweb in London: 0207 771 2000 / www.ticketweb.co.uk or venue info on 01270 211153 26 - Aberdeen - Glow 303, Belmont Street 01224 648000 28 - Wrexham - Central Station 01978 264940 29 - Sheffield - Boardwalk 0114 276 6356/0114 279 9090 30 - Southampton - The Brook 02380 555366 (www.the-brook.com) 31 - London - The Scala 0207 771 2000/0207 734 8932 (www.ticketweb.co.uk) (www.wayahead.com) ITALIAN FESTIVAL DATE! Friday 15th June 5th Ephebia Rock Festival, Giardini La Passeggiata, Terni, Italy Ozric Tentacles on stage at 11.00pm www.ephebiarock.net 29 June- Imatra Big Band Festival Finland (Headline) Tickets: Phone 00358 (0) 54364100 (www.ibbf.fi) July 19 - Herzberg Festival Germany (Headline)(0049) 668 4919 388 www.think-progressive.de September 21 - Sound And Vision Festival Germany (Headline) Also on the website - Available now are limited edition coloured vinyls LP versions of Waterfall Cities and The Hidden Step. There are only 1000 of each available so order soon to avoid disappointment! We have also reduced the price of Live Underslunky CD to ?7! Look out for the next Ozracle fanclub mag with a competition to win signed copies of both LP's! For details about joining the Ozric fanclub, please goto the merchandise section of the website or e-mail me directly. Finally, check out the April issue of Uk magazine Record Collector - there's a six page Ozric feature with interview, rare pictures and discog! Simon "Eddie" Baker Stretchy Records Limited PO Box 5520 Bishops Stortford Herts CM23 3WH Tel/Fax: +44(0)1279 865070 www.ozrics.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Apr 19 13:39:09 2001 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:39:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Trying to identify autograph In-Reply-To: <002801c0c779$353af380$3c1028d5@starfield> Message-ID: Hmmm... although I don't have the autograph in front of me, Rik Martinez looks like the odds on favourite, especially if he shortened his surname to Mart when signing. I'll be scanning the cover at the weekend but thanks for all the suggestions so far. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck > Sent: 17 April 2001 21:02 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Trying to identify autograph > > > Try Rik Martinez or Clive Deamer (alternate drummers on the E.R. tour). From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Thu Apr 19 14:03:52 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:03:52 -0400 Subject: OFF: Mule/Allmans/Warren Haynes Message-ID: On March 26, The Allman Brothers Band played their ninth sold out New York City performance for 2001 extending the ABB skein of sold out shows at the venerable Beacon Theatre to 103 straight sellouts. Following this annual spring tradition, the Brothers confirmed that Beacon Special Guest guitarist /vocalist Warren Haynes has rejoined The Allman Brothers Band. Warren Haynes departed the Brothers in the spring of 1997 to form Gov't Mule with recently deceased, former ABB stalwart, Allen Woody on bass. The Mule has released five albums, and tour tirelessly. Haynes is also well known for performing solo acoustic tours as well as being a regular guest guitarist on the Phil Lesh & Friends tours including several weeks this summer. Warren Haynes rejoined The Allman Brothers Band for the 2001 Beacon Theater dates as a guest and is now making it official, with the announced eight June shows that he is an active Allman Brothers Band member once more. Following the Phil Lesh & Friends July tour dates the Brothers hit the road in August for another 19 shows including the already announced Sturgis, SD motorcycle rally and Atlanta's HIFI BUYS Amphitheatre date originally scheduled to play July 1 (it is moving to a new date, to be determined). August dates are to be announced shortly. The Brothers lineup has evolved continuously over the past 32 years following the death of founding members Duane Allman & Berry Oakley in separate motorcycle accidents in 1971 and 1972. The spirit of evolution fuels the artistic connection and comparison between the ABB and many legendary jazz and blues groups. As writer David Fricke said in his April 12, 2001 Rolling Stone magazine review of the just released March 2000, live CD Peakin' at the Beacon, "Regardless of line up, the Allmans remain a nightly wonder. In their middle age, they have evolved beyond band-dom into a great repertory orchestra, a rock equivalent of the Count Basie and Duke Ellington organizations, revisiting classic material with fresh, practiced swing." 2001: The Odyssey Goes on Forever with founding members Gregg Allman, Butch Trucks and Jaimoe joined by long time "younger brothers" Marc Quinones, Oteil Burbridge, Derek Trucks and returning brother, Warren Haynes. Stuart Allmans CDs http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=ALLMAN_BROTHERS&s=1151 From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Thu Apr 19 15:18:48 2001 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:18:48 -0400 Subject: HW : Ridicule? In-Reply-To: <200104191803.OAA16612@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: The above title, Ridicule, has popped up as an impending Hawkwind release on CDNow. Can anybody give me the scoop what it is? Incidentally, what was the last new, original studio HAwkwind release? Rob THV Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 19 14:31:46 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:31:46 -0400 Subject: HW: Ridicule? Message-ID: Rob asks... >The above title, Ridicule, has popped up as an impending Hawkwind release >on CDNow. Can anybody give me the scoop what it is? Oh, Christ...will this never end? This stupid goddamn thing is just half of Space Ritual 2....originally released on vinyl in the early 80s with a boring brown cover on some obscure Belgian label if my memory serves me correctly. It was one of the ones I ordered completely unaware that it was worthlessly redundant. Certainly I still have it, likely played only one time to the realization that I already had all these recordings. >Incidentally, what was the last new, original studio HAwkwind release? Ummm...depends on your point of view. "SpaceBrock" is mostly all new, though is more accurately called a Brock solo effort. "In Your Area" was half new studio and half live tunes. So I guess "Distant Horizons" fits the bill. Grakkl (FAA) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Apr 19 17:23:46 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:23:46 -0600 Subject: HW: Ridicule? In-Reply-To: <200104191943.PAA13221@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: can we be sure this release doesn't ridicule REDICULE??? I imagine it won't though....... good title however!!! I'll take it off your hands if it's a quick-fill (whoever bought one accidentally)....(if you like) Mike (peeking through hand on face) coleman... From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Thu Apr 19 16:38:22 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:38:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Ridicule? Message-ID: What's the general view of Distant Horizons? I have avoided it on the basis of comments that it was a techno album (didn't much like IITBOTFTBD) ----- Original Message ----- Grakkl said: > >Incidentally, what was the last new, original studio HAwkwind release? > > Ummm...depends on your point of view. "SpaceBrock" is mostly all new, > though is more accurately called a Brock solo effort. "In Your Area" was > half new studio and half live tunes. So I guess "Distant Horizons" fits the > bill. From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Apr 19 17:52:44 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:52:44 +0100 Subject: HW: fao Mike C the Chameleon Message-ID: Mike, What's todays e-mail address for me to contact you on, privately? Talk about chasing a moving target! Jez From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Apr 19 19:25:03 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:25:03 -0600 Subject: HW: (off) persona rediculi In-Reply-To: <002401c0c91b$2e180540$0337893e@jezd> Message-ID: You think anyone wants to contact me!!! sounds exciting!!! but I don't believe it!!! re-; the ever changing silly name badges, my email address will always be the same.....circle, square, DELTA-WAVE........because THAT...is my true "borrowed" persona....in which lie many "ideals".....(don't shoot me)..... including folks whose triangles did a 180 degree.......... Psick Loonbinney (me, Mike ME!) From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Apr 19 19:20:55 2001 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:20:55 EDT Subject: OFF:Sinners (wasRe: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/19/01 6:55:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > ahhh - we are all sinners are we not my brother? > > Kinda reminds me off the scene from 'Jason and the Argonauts'. Jason & Co. are trying to get the help of the old blind guy, who is being tormented by harpies, which are a punishment from Zeus. Old guy sez (to the effect): "I should be punished for my sins, but I didn't sin every day!" Mine would've gone:" . . but I didn't sin every day! Oh, wait, I did sin every day! It's a fair cop! Where's da whip?! (LARGE SINFUL SMILE) Joe From chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET Thu Apr 19 11:17:33 2001 From: chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET (Chaos23) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:17:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Interview tapes Message-ID: Record the tape into your sound card using the windows sound recorder (or better software if you've got it)set at 44100Hz sampling rate 16 Bit Stereo and save as a .WAV File.then Burn using Adaptec Easy CD creator (comes with a lot of burners) or a Shareware burning prog like Nero (available at most shareware sites) And Bob's ya Uncle or A Dead Captain? ----- Original Message ----- From: "iain ferguson" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:47 PM Subject: Re: HW: Interview tapes > Hi , > > I did an Interview with Hawkwind back in '81 ( sonic attack tour) for > Radio Bristol. Interview was about 12 minutes in length with Huw Lloyd > Langton ( chain smoking three strands of rolling bacci in a rizzla) & > Martin Griffin. Pretty nieve questions as I was 14 at the time. Will > attempt to copy it from Tape onto my PC. then I'll be able to burn it > onto CD. > > Can anyone suggest the best way of recording tape onto a CD ( its > something I've not tried yet) > > regards > iain > > John Majka wrote: > > > Well if music doesn't really interest you, we can bypass the list > > then. Basically I have a 90-minute tape of compiled interviews circa > > 1977 to circa 1984 with such members as Robert Calvert, Dave Brock, > > Simon King, Harvey Bainbridge, Michael Moorcock. Then I have the Dave > > Brock interview from the Flicknife boxed set. And the 15 minute or so > > interview from the Westwind Tape from the 1989 USA tour... that's it > > as far as interviews go.John Majkajmajka2 at home.com > > > > Hi John,Would you mind copying, pasting and then e-mailing > > me your interview HW list please, as I'm not one for huge > > lists.Ta,Jez > > > > ----- Original Message -----From: John MajkaTo: > > BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDUSent: Tuesday, April 10, > > 2001 10:27 PMSubject: Re: HW: Interview tapes Well > > I certainly wouldn't mind getting my hands on > > those interviews... I have a couple myself, on my > > list...http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac/tapes.htmlJohn > > Majkajmajka2 at home.com > > > > Hi,In all my time on BOC-L I don't > > recall anyone ever discussing HW audio > > interviews (radio or otherwise).Does > > anyone else collect these?At the last > > count I think I had 8 C90's worth.If > > anyone cares to list and/or swap what > > they've got then please let me know what > > you've got.Cheers,Jez > > > From chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET Thu Apr 19 20:39:15 2001 From: chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET (Lord Ch@oS 23) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:39:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Ridicule? Message-ID: Space Ritual 2 was released without permission by Dave Anderson(and a couple of industry sharks)from some tapes borrowed from Dave Brock.Hence Dave Anderson was not at the Hawkestra Gig. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:31 PM Subject: Re: HW: Ridicule? > Rob asks... > > >The above title, Ridicule, has popped up as an impending Hawkwind release > >on CDNow. Can anybody give me the scoop what it is? > > Oh, Christ...will this never end? This stupid goddamn thing is just half of > Space Ritual 2....originally released on vinyl in the early 80s with a > boring brown cover on some obscure Belgian label if my memory serves me > correctly. It was one of the ones I ordered completely unaware that it was > worthlessly redundant. Certainly I still have it, likely played only one > time to the realization that I already had all these recordings. > > >Incidentally, what was the last new, original studio HAwkwind release? > > Ummm...depends on your point of view. "SpaceBrock" is mostly all new, > though is more accurately called a Brock solo effort. "In Your Area" was > half new studio and half live tunes. So I guess "Distant Horizons" fits the > bill. > > Grakkl (FAA) From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 19 21:00:15 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:00:15 +0800 Subject: HW: Ridicule? (Distant Horizons) Message-ID: Moonglum wrote: > What's the general view of Distant Horizons? I have avoided it on the basis > of comments that it was a techno album (didn't much like IITBOTFTBD) What a great excuse to play this album again.... Distant Horizons, IMO isn't a techno album. But the songs Distant Horizons and Phetamine Street may be classified as such. Techno music for me is dance music played at a million miles an hour. Now-a-days they classify music in so many dimensions it's hard for "oldies" like me to keep up with it. Bring back the good old days of commercial, heavy metal and alternative music. There's 10 new songs on this album plus an instrumental version of Love in Space. This album takes a bit of getting used to as it bends and twists all over the place. I like HW albums where each track blends into the next, which is something HW do very well. Songs like Alchemy and Reptoid Vision are good, but they just don't belong on this album. They seem like left overs from Alien 4. Should have been done as singles maybe? The rest of the album is true Hawkwind tradition though. Great instruments like Love in Space, Population Overload and Kauai. My favourites are Wheels and Population Overload. You have avoided this album for too long :-) Bill From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 19 20:11:23 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:11:23 -0400 Subject: HW: Ridicule? (Distant Horizons) Message-ID: Bill writes: >> What's the general view of Distant Horizons? I have avoided it on the >> basis of comments that it was a techno album (didn't much like IITBOTFTBD) Not even remotely IMHO. >What a great excuse to play this album again.... >Distant Horizons, IMO isn't a techno album. But the songs Distant Horizons >and Phetamine Street may be classified as such. Phetamine Street techno? Not hardly. OK, maybe the way Chadwick plays the drum parts (much as he did on It's the Biz...) is sorta techno-ish in a choppy pseudo-electronic-beat-sorta-way, but I'd argue Phet. St. is more punk rock than anything. So ya wanna call it punkno? No? Well, neither do I. :) The Hawkwind '97 version is much more interesting than the DH version IMHO. I hated the song the first time I heard it (I rather like it now), but I think that's just because it sounds so poorly 'produced' on the DH version. And supposedly, all of DH is basically demo versions of the tracks that were to be re-recorded, but EBS jumped the gun and released it before the band was finished with it. Hence its peculiar non-uniform sound and style. Grakkl (FAA) From coral at APORT.RU Thu Apr 19 21:21:42 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:21:42 +0400 Subject: HW: Ridicule? (Distant Horizons) Message-ID: > Distant Horizons, IMO isn't a techno album. But the songs Distant Horizons > and Phetamine Street may be classified as such. Phetamine Street is not techno. It's a common mistake (taking industrial pieces for techno music), there's nothing dance in that song. This song can be described as space-industrial one, great song, imho. Distant Horizons is a very good album, but unfortunately something unbalanced. So it doesn't sound as a complete one... Alissa From coral at APORT.RU Thu Apr 19 21:24:31 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:24:31 +0400 Subject: HW: Ridicule? (Distant Horizons) Message-ID: > The Hawkwind '97 version is much more interesting than the DH version IMHO. > I hated the song the first time I heard it (I rather like it now), but I I wish I had this cd... Maybe there's is chance of hearing of mp3 of the live Phetamine street song? I was very curious to hear it... Alissa From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 19 21:47:47 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:47:47 +0800 Subject: HW: Ridicule? (Distant Horizons) Message-ID: K Henderson wrote > Phetamine Street techno? Not hardly. OK, maybe the way Chadwick plays the > drum parts (much as he did on It's the Biz...) is sorta techno-ish in a > choppy pseudo-electronic-beat-sorta-way, but I'd argue Phet. St. is more > punk rock than anything. So ya wanna call it punkno? No? Well, neither do > I. :) No I don't:-) I'm glad I said "May be Classified." Bill From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 19 21:56:23 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:56:23 +0800 Subject: HW: Ridicule? (Distant Horizons) Message-ID: Alissa wrote: > Phetamine Street is not techno. It's a common mistake (taking industrial > pieces for techno music), there's nothing dance in that song. This song can > be described as space-industrial one, great song, imho. I can dance to anything.... > > Distant Horizons is a very good album, but unfortunately something > unbalanced. So it doesn't sound as a complete one... > > Alissa LOL - Space-rock, Industrial, Techno, Ambient, Space-industrial.....Give me a break:-) Lets just call hawkwind's music "Hawkwind music" Bill From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Apr 19 23:05:13 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM ('Lil Fieldmouse) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:05:13 -0600 Subject: HW: Ridicule? (Distant Horizons) In-Reply-To: <008301c0c93d$1a8844a0$95c23bcb@freeaqua> Message-ID: RE: Phetamine street..: If you were crawling around on hands and knees drooling for, uhum, well....anyway,, having been up for 2 days too long at the exact time of it's release..... it was somehow...PERFECT....frightening in it's chaos, uplifting in it's attitude... Ron Tree WAS IN THE HOUSE (hat's off) ***..... From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 19 21:04:00 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:04:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farflung track indexing Message-ID: OK... I checked out the tracklengths on my copy of Farflung's "25K' s^-1" and here they are... Solar Electric 4:08 Open Your Mouth 3:38 Don't Forget to Breathe 3:29 25K' s^-1 6:36 Greater Waters 6:53 Landing on Cydonia 14:31 Hot Fluffy Mind 4:00 TOTAL 43:29 (with 14 seconds of black holes) Are you saying these don't match yours, Chuck? Does the total at least match? (Is the music at least the same all the way through? I'd certainly hope so.) Wonder how it coulda happened if they're indexed differently. I wouldn't have guessed there were even multiple pressings - otherwise the damn thing wouldn't be so rare. :) Grakkl (FAA) From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 19 22:26:51 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:26:51 +0800 Subject: HW: (off) persona rediculi Message-ID: Mike C said: > > including folks whose triangles did a 180 degree.......... Oh no! A triangle is a perfectly shaped geometrical shape intended to give clean, precise musical notes and shouldn't be abused... If you couldn't play the damned thing maybe you should have given it to someone who can. Bill From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Apr 19 23:41:11 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Halitosis?) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:41:11 -0600 Subject: HW: (off) persona rediculi Message-ID: Bill + Cynthia sent electric fright!: "Oh no! A triangle is a perfectly shaped geometrical shape intended to give clean, precise musical notes and shouldn't be abused... if you couldn't play the damned thing maybe you should have given it to someone who can." I always thought I was fairly musically adept, figured if I tied a string perfectly at the mid-point, and hung it, it would still be a perfect triangle.....(notes true) problem is ....so many triangles didn't want me PLAYING THEM, and had to be turned over to their proper kind..... heebeegeebyipes!...... ps,,,meant to agree hawkwind tunes are HAWKWIND TUNES.... (but I guess it's tooooo late)... From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Apr 19 23:15:57 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:15:57 EDT Subject: OFF: Farflung track indexing Message-ID: In a message dated 4/19/01 7:16:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > OK... > > I checked out the tracklengths on my copy of Farflung's "25K' s^-1" and here > they are... > > Solar Electric 4:08 > Open Your Mouth 3:38 > Don't Forget to Breathe 3:29 > 25K' s^-1 6:36 > Greater Waters 6:53 > Landing on Cydonia 14:31 > Hot Fluffy Mind 4:00 > TOTAL 43:29 (with 14 seconds of black holes) > Track 1: S-electric/Open Mouth (7:47) Track 2: Don't Forget to Breathe: (3:30) Track 3: Feet (6:38) Track 4: Waters 1 (my own title; 2:10, the rockin' part) Track 5: Waters 2 (4:51, mandolin part) Track 6: Cydonia (14:32) Track 7: Mind (4:01) Total: 43:30 > Are you saying these don't match yours, Chuck? Does the total at least > match? (Is the music at least the same all the way through? I'd certainly > hope so.) Yes, and as you said, just so this post has some "content"--it's a farkin' great album! Best space-rock rhythm-guit sound since Space Ritual. Wonder how it coulda happened if they're indexed differently. I > wouldn't have guessed there were even multiple pressings - otherwise the > damn thing wouldn't be so rare. :) > No kidding. and do I have an even rarer one?? Weird...I recently sent an extra copy to a friend and swear it had the same tracking. And the one that used to be in the juke at club Spaceland (before someone stole it??)--i thought had the same tracking as well. (thought I was getting such a great deal w/the first two tracks all in one, and then Cydonia, of course--more bang for yer buck and i didn't have to play "Suzie Q" this time... :) > Grakkl (FAA) > > bewildered... i'd try to get Tommy Gee on the case, but he hasn't even answered my e-mail asking for track titles of the new A. Lights yet... Chuck From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Thu Apr 19 23:21:51 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:21:51 -0500 Subject: HW: Ridicule? (Distant Horizons) Message-ID: Always interesting the varying opinions that people have! "Phetamine Street" has long been my favorite track from Distant Horizons. I agree that the album comes across as a bit of a hodge podge of this and that... but I think that overall, it's a pretty quality hodge podge! John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Bill writes: > > >> What's the general view of Distant Horizons? I have avoided it on the > >> basis of comments that it was a techno album (didn't much like IITBOTFTBD) > > Not even remotely IMHO. > > >What a great excuse to play this album again.... > >Distant Horizons, IMO isn't a techno album. But the songs Distant Horizons > >and Phetamine Street may be classified as such. > > Phetamine Street techno? Not hardly. OK, maybe the way Chadwick plays the > drum parts (much as he did on It's the Biz...) is sorta techno-ish in a > choppy pseudo-electronic-beat-sorta-way, but I'd argue Phet. St. is more > punk rock than anything. So ya wanna call it punkno? No? Well, neither do > I. :) > > The Hawkwind '97 version is much more interesting than the DH version IMHO. > I hated the song the first time I heard it (I rather like it now), but I > think that's just because it sounds so poorly 'produced' on the DH version. > And supposedly, all of DH is basically demo versions of the tracks that were > to be re-recorded, but EBS jumped the gun and released it before the band > was finished with it. Hence its peculiar non-uniform sound and style. > > Grakkl (FAA) > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 19 23:53:51 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:53:51 +0800 Subject: HW: Ridicule? (Distant Horizons) Message-ID: John Majka wrote: > Always interesting the varying opinions that people have! Yes it is! Grakkl called it "more punk rock than anything" Alissa described as "space-industrial" I said it "may be techno" Three opinions and the day has just began:-) "Phetamine > Street" has long been my favorite track from Distant Horizons. I agree that > the album comes across as a bit of a hodge podge of this and that... but I > think that overall, it's a pretty quality hodge podge! Yeah, it's not the songs - they're all great - it's they way the album is put together Cheers Bill From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Fri Apr 20 01:07:13 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:07:13 -0600 Subject: HW: Interview tapes Message-ID: Just find the line-in on the back of your pc (sound card). Then get yourself a line that can run from the headphone jack of your walkman tape player to the line in jack. It's hard to find one that's male-to-male, but I did finally find one after a lengthy search of several electronics stores. Be sure you get one with stereo jacks (three separate metal sections on the pole, with two black plastic interfaces between). Not that stereo is that important for an interview, but you might care to digitize music from tape to cdr later. Then there's another really lengthy trick (for Windows 95 & 98) to get the line in to accept the stereo. Some computers come configured for it, and some appear to only accept mono, but with a few clicks you can be on your way. It's buried quite deeply, so a few people miss it and assume their computer only handles mono inputs. If anybody has ever had trouble recording stereo on your computer, contact me off list and I can give you the instructions. Good luck! Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: iain ferguson To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:47 AM Subject: Re: HW: Interview tapes > Hi , > > I did an Interview with Hawkwind back in '81 ( sonic attack tour) for > Radio Bristol. Interview was about 12 minutes in length with Huw Lloyd > Langton ( chain smoking three strands of rolling bacci in a rizzla) & > Martin Griffin. Pretty nieve questions as I was 14 at the time. Will > attempt to copy it from Tape onto my PC. then I'll be able to burn it > onto CD. > > Can anyone suggest the best way of recording tape onto a CD ( its > something I've not tried yet) > > regards > iain > > John Majka wrote: > > > Well if music doesn't really interest you, we can bypass the list > > then. Basically I have a 90-minute tape of compiled interviews circa > > 1977 to circa 1984 with such members as Robert Calvert, Dave Brock, > > Simon King, Harvey Bainbridge, Michael Moorcock. Then I have the Dave > > Brock interview from the Flicknife boxed set. And the 15 minute or so > > interview from the Westwind Tape from the 1989 USA tour... that's it > > as far as interviews go.John Majkajmajka2 at home.com > > > > Hi John,Would you mind copying, pasting and then e-mailing > > me your interview HW list please, as I'm not one for huge > > lists.Ta,Jez > > > > ----- Original Message -----From: John MajkaTo: > > BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDUSent: Tuesday, April 10, > > 2001 10:27 PMSubject: Re: HW: Interview tapes Well > > I certainly wouldn't mind getting my hands on > > those interviews... I have a couple myself, on my > > list...http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac/tapes.htmlJohn > > Majkajmajka2 at home.com > > > > Hi,In all my time on BOC-L I don't > > recall anyone ever discussing HW audio > > interviews (radio or otherwise).Does > > anyone else collect these?At the last > > count I think I had 8 C90's worth.If > > anyone cares to list and/or swap what > > they've got then please let me know what > > you've got.Cheers,Jez > > From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Apr 20 07:49:54 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:49:54 -0400 Subject: HW - Ridicule Message-ID: Another reissue of the reissue of Live 1973. Available at; http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=ALLMAN_BROTHERS&s=1151 From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Apr 20 07:51:11 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:51:11 -0400 Subject: HW - Ridicule Message-ID: Meant to say that it was on Obsession Records? in 1985 if memory serves. http://www.101cd.com/ogrp01.asp?artist=hawkwind&s=1151 From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 20 08:21:38 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:21:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Ridicule? In-Reply-To: Lord Ch@oS 23's message of Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:39:15 +0100 Message-ID: Lord Ch at oS 23 writes: > Space Ritual 2 was released without permission by Dave Anderson(and a couple > of industry sharks)from some tapes borrowed from Dave Brock.Hence Dave > Anderson was not at the Hawkestra Gig. Of course if he had been, we'd already have 23 CD's of it on sale in the shops. FoFP From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Apr 20 10:14:12 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:14:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Ridicule? In-Reply-To: <200104201221.NAA06373@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In message <200104201221.NAA06373 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Lord Ch at oS 23 writes: >Hence Dave >> Anderson was not at the Hawkestra Gig. > >Of course if he had been, we'd already have 23 CD's of it on sale in the >shops. Exactly 23? Hmmm.... ;-) -- Nick Medford From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Apr 20 10:20:59 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:20:59 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farflung track indexing Message-ID: Chuck ups... >Track 1: S-electric/Open Mouth (7:47) >Track 2: Don't Forget to Breathe: (3:30) >Track 3: Feet (6:38) >Track 4: Waters 1 (my own title; 2:10, the rockin' part) >Track 5: Waters 2 (4:51, mandolin part) >Track 6: Cydonia (14:32) >Track 7: Mind (4:01) >Total: 43:30 Well, that's very interesting...wonder how it happened? OK, now on to Raven. I can't remember what you had all said about it, but I took a listen last night and this is *my* guess... 1. The Raven that Ate the Moon 12:19 2. Sonic Evaporation I 1:06 Sonic Evaporation II 1:26 Helianthus 9:23 3. Candied Electronic Atmospheres Intro 0:41 Candied Electronic Atmospheres I 3:45 Candied Electronic Atmospheres II 3:12 Candied Electronic Atmospheres III 2:43 4. Alius Orbis Intro 1:54 Alius Orbis 10:20 The Way the Sky Is 3:31 (It's Not a Bad Dream)* ~24:50 TOTAL 75:19 (with a few black holes) Tracks #1 and #4 are absolutes (due to TRTATM, TWTSI, and Alius Orbis, aka Mother Orbis, all appearing also on "SMM, SLT"), so it's really the question of where the extra track break occurs within 2 and 3. My guess is as above, 'cause it's the place where the splicing seems the most peculiar (rather like the splicings in Track 4). Also, the four parts to Track 3 seem like they flow together reasonably well. Is this what you all thought? Or are yours tracked differently?! :) SMM, SLT is just fine, except that the tracknames for #2 and #4 are swapped on the back insert card and the first page of the booklet. Easy to figure out though, because the lyrics are in the right order. And also because The Way the Sky Is appears on Raven as well, obviously. I think The Belief Module and The Myth of Solid Ground (such as it is) are ok, aren't they? Grakkl (FAA) * Yes, it is. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Apr 20 13:05:33 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Blank Space) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:05:33 -0600 Subject: Farflung In-Reply-To: <3f.13dfbe7c.281103ed@aol.com> Message-ID: Does anyone have an electric line to some stashed FARFLUNG stuff for a person who sinned in not getting it all???........ what If I offer something like a German record club DOREMI LP??? ???????? Mike Coleman From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Apr 20 13:11:33 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:11:33 +0100 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups Message-ID: Simon House too! Surely. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Chaos23 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 18 April 2001 03:26 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups >Any good suggestions for a fantasy hawkwind line up? >here's mine > >Robert Calvert >Dave Brock >Lemmy >Tim Blake >Huw lloyd-langton >Ginger baker >Nik Turner >Stacia >Full Laser and Light Show >Venue Stonehenge solstice 2001AD or Great Pyramids >and a large lump of hash. > From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Apr 20 13:01:23 2001 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:01:23 +0100 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups In-Reply-To: <003c01c0c9bd$1b993040$455c893e@default> Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, david hall wrote: > Simon House too! Surely. > Yep. He and Dave are the only two people we all agree with when we play this game as a family[1] I guess, fwliw, my current line-up is: Dave Brock (well, duh) Simon House Me (random low-end brass. This *is* fantasy, remember?) Bill Ward (*why* not? See, you can;t think of a reason. That's not a good enough reason[2]) Ron Tree (vocals only, please) Bob Calvert (think of the duets!) Lemmy Adrian Shaw Alan Davey (what d;you mean, we don;t need three bass players?) Tim Blake Kirsten [1] Hey, Benedict is only 2, you can't expect him to always be reasonable. [2] We *always* have an argument at this point, and that's how my half *aways* goes.. :) -- Kirsten Procter ghoti NP: Porcupine Tree - Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Fri Apr 20 13:31:19 2001 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:31:19 -0700 Subject: OFF: Farflung availability Message-ID: OK, all this talk of Farflung makes me want to fill the gaps in my collection. Does anyone, anywhere still sell _The Raven that Ate the Moon_ or _The Myth of Solid Ground_? MWood NP: Aural-Innovations.com Spacerock Radio Show #25 Farflung Special ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Fri Apr 20 13:39:26 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:39:26 -0500 Subject: Farflung Message-ID: Actually I'd like to jump on the Farflung bandwagon as well.... I saw them opening for Nik (and backing him) a couple years back and I thought they were great... truly one of the best space rock bands around.... Where can I get their stuff? John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Does anyone have an electric line to some stashed FARFLUNG stuff for a > person who sinned in not getting it all???........ > > what If I offer something like a German record club DOREMI LP??? > > ???????? Mike Coleman From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Apr 20 15:07:32 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Blank Space) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:07:32 -0600 Subject: Farflung In-Reply-To: <000d01c0c9c0$d8901940$e7d1b718@cc177845c> Message-ID: dear list...as you read this...Tommy is being spotlighted....email beamed in... let us come as one before him......"OMMMMMMM" AAAAHHHOOMMMMMM""" come to us, give us knowledge of reprints....."OHMMMMM"......calling Tommy! Calling Tommy! do not fail us, oh great Tommy ONE!!! "OMMMMMM" asleep at the leevers...*** From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Fri Apr 20 14:07:05 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:07:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Ridicule? (Distant Horizons) Message-ID: Thank you folks! I should perhaps have explained that in my universe "techno" is shorthand for unpleasant modern electronic music. Urban Guerilla knows where I am coming from. The reference to IITBOTFTBD was intended to convey the kind of HW of which I am less than fond. Give me the mid-70's stuff every time. (Well actually they did, at Croydon and Aldershot...) You've convinced me, I'll buy it (if I can) Moonglum From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Apr 20 13:06:30 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:06:30 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farvergflungen merchandise Message-ID: Hi there... For those in the UK especially...a cool shirt - http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1424397824 For those in the US mainly...you might try... 25K' s^-1 (Flipside) http://www.cdshack.com Raven (Flipside) http://www.cdshack.com http://www.luckytruck.com http://www.compactdiscovery.com So Many Minds, So Little Time (Cleo/PP) http://www.recordbreakersusa.com http://www.fatcat-records.com http://www.cdquest.com http://www.cdcellar.com http://www.duffelbag.com http://www.djangomusic.com The Belief Module (Bad Acid, UK) There are places on gemm.com that list it, but I would put low confidence in those outlets actually being able to obtain it for you. Maybe Andy Gee still has some inroads... The Myth of Solid Ground (30 CD-R's only, was supposed to appear on Big Jesus, an indie in LA that has released several Farflung singles...not sure of its status) GOOD LUCK! :) The new one....ask Chuck. :) Grakkl (FAA) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 20 14:47:07 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:47:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Ridicule? In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:14:12 +0100 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > In message <200104201221.NAA06373 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes > >Of course if he had been, we'd already have 23 CD's of it on sale in the > >shops. > > Exactly 23? Hmmm.... The #fnords# are not what they seem. FoFP From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 20 17:04:20 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:04:20 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 4/14 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck 4/14 1.??? (perhaps Psychic TV) 2.Farflung-- "Sonic Evaporation" (or "track #2" off Raven that Ate the Moon) 3.Kraftwerk-- "Elektrisches Roulette" (Ralf and Florian) 4.Ozone Player-- "Process" (Insane Logic) 5.Sundial-- "Exploding in Your Mind" (Other Way Out) 6.Doldrums-- "On the Green" (Acupuncture) 7.Tribe of Cro-- "Black Hole Mooncircle" (Potlach) 8.Third Eye Foundation-- "No Dove No Covenant" (You Guys Kill Me) 9.Fuxa-- "At Your Leisure" (Very Well Organized) 10.Hawkwind-- "Let Barking Dogs Lie" (It is the Business of the Future...) 11.Saturnia-- "Crysalis" (Saturnia II?) 12.Lithium X-mas-- "Howlaween" (Bad Karma) 13.Abunai!-- "Toast" (Mystic River Sound) 14.Cosmic Jokers-- "Cosmic Joy" (ST'd) 15.Farflung-- "Fingers of the Skycatcher"/title track (Belief Module) thanks, Chuck From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Apr 20 18:08:27 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:08:27 -0700 Subject: totalrock cdr In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20010419172331.009e2eb0@pop.cablewanadoo.nl> Message-ID: Here: http://hawkart0.tripod.com/AstoriaFront.gif http://hawkart0.tripod.com/AstoriaBack.gif KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of cosmos at WANADOO.NL Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:25 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: totalrock cdr At 08:08 19-4-01 -0700, you wrote: >I've made one, which I can knock down in resolution and put somewhere... > >KevinSommers now that's something i want to see or you can email it to my mailbox. but maybe you want to share it with all of us. andre >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of cosmos at WANADOO.NL >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:48 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: totalrock cdr > > >is there anywhere on the internet a cover for the totalrock cdr for download >? >or has someone produced one and wants to share it here with me/us ? > >andre From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Apr 20 17:31:39 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:31:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farvergflungen merchandise Message-ID: Hi again... >For those in the US mainly...you might try... >25K' s^-1 (Flipside) >Raven (Flipside) >So Many Minds, So Little Time (Cleo/PP) Hey, I just discovered there's another thing within Ebay that sells items at a fixed price (as opposed to auctioning), and there's copies of these three available also, for about $7-9. It's called www.half.com (can be searched through regular Ebay) - I'd never seen that before today. Shows how observant *I* am. I assume it works the same way as 'Buy It Now' in Ebay...in fact, seems rather redundant, dudn't it? Grakkl (FAA) From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Fri Apr 20 18:50:39 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:50:39 +0200 Subject: totalrock cdr In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 15:08 20-4-01 -0700, you wrote: >Here: >http://hawkart0.tripod.com/AstoriaFront.gif >http://hawkart0.tripod.com/AstoriaBack.gif > >KevinSommers hi kevin thanks again for this excellent covers. andre From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Fri Apr 20 18:57:13 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:57:13 +0100 Subject: totalrock cdr Message-ID: Hey Kevin, Do you have an mp3 of the totalrock stuff? If so is there any way I can get it? cheers, Keef Sommers wrote: > Here: > http://hawkart0.tripod.com/AstoriaFront.gif > http://hawkart0.tripod.com/AstoriaBack.gif > > KevinSommers > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of cosmos at WANADOO.NL > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:25 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: totalrock cdr > > At 08:08 19-4-01 -0700, you wrote: > >I've made one, which I can knock down in resolution and put somewhere... > > > >KevinSommers > > now that's something i want to see or you can email it to my mailbox. > but maybe you want to share it with all of us. > > andre > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > >Behalf Of cosmos at WANADOO.NL > >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:48 AM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: totalrock cdr > > > > > >is there anywhere on the internet a cover for the totalrock cdr for > download > >? > >or has someone produced one and wants to share it here with me/us ? > > > >andre -- Technical Guru Phone:0207 973 4000 Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 London W1D 3BP mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Apr 20 23:43:11 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:43:11 -0700 Subject: HW: Chicago '89 Chain/Tree Message-ID: For those in the 89 Lounge Ax CD-R tree, go to here for the covers: http://hawkart0.tripod.com/LABack.gif http://hawkart0.tripod.com/LAFront.gif KevinSommers From chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET Sat Apr 21 07:35:08 2001 From: chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET (Chaos23) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:35:08 +0100 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups Message-ID: yeah i'd go along with that i overlooked the string section. ----- Original Message ----- From: "david hall" To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups > Simon House too! Surely. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Chaos23 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 18 April 2001 03:26 > Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups > > > >Any good suggestions for a fantasy hawkwind line up? > >here's mine > > > >Robert Calvert > >Dave Brock > >Lemmy > >Tim Blake > >Huw lloyd-langton > >Ginger baker > >Nik Turner > >Stacia > >Full Laser and Light Show > >Venue Stonehenge solstice 2001AD or Great Pyramids > >and a large lump of hash. > > From chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET Sat Apr 21 07:39:49 2001 From: chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET (Chaos23) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:39:49 +0100 Subject: Farflung Message-ID: That deaf,dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball(so i'm told) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blank Space" To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Farflung > dear list...as you read this...Tommy is being spotlighted....email beamed > in... > > let us come as one before him......"OMMMMMMM" AAAAHHHOOMMMMMM""" > > come to us, give us knowledge of reprints....."OHMMMMM"......calling Tommy! > Calling Tommy! > > do not fail us, oh great Tommy ONE!!! "OMMMMMM" > > > asleep at the leevers...*** From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sat Apr 21 07:53:02 2001 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:53:02 +0200 Subject: OFF: The Moor news In-Reply-To: <003801c0ca57$c625deb0$c1a0403e@chaos23> Message-ID: (Uh, I don't know what You think of self-promotion here but I think I've seen it done before so I'll make a try. If You think it is not acceptable, please say so and it won't happen again/Kenneth) Contents: MP3.com update Album news MP3.com update We have added two songs to our MP3.com page. The songs are: Tolling Bells and If You Want Me. These two songs were recorded in 1988 and released the same year as our second single. Tolling Bells was later released as Bell on our Flux album. These recordings are a bit more straightforward than most of our other material. I think it safe to say that they are clockng in somewhere between Rush's Grace Under Pressure and Hawkwind's Warrior On The Edge Of Time, that was the general idea anyway. Album news At last, we're at work with our new album. At first this album was planned to be a live album but after listening to some new demos we decided to record a studio album instead. However, one of the songs from the live recordings will be used since it is a new song never released before, we're also considering adding some other live material as bonus-songs. The new song spans from Techno to Rock, passing through the territories of Progressive, Industrial and Jazz. Now, that is what we call Progressive although some might not agree...by the way...we're as gloomy as ever. Your humble servant, Kenneth ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From micci at SCI.FI Sat Apr 21 10:43:47 2001 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:43:47 +0300 Subject: HW:FinnWind/ Official Finnish Hawkwind Association Message-ID: Hi! We can now offer english page. Go to: http://www.sci.fi/~micci Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Apr 21 13:12:34 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:12:34 -0400 Subject: last minute NY/LI gig awaiting confirmation:/We Need your help!!! Message-ID: Hello friends, SLOTERDIJK is waiting for confirmation of a gig on Long Island next Saturday, April 28th. The show would take place at The Wrong Way Inn, in Amityville Long Island... The bill would be as follows: Sloterdijk 9PM Fathom 10PM Finally Balanced ( members of Canis Minor) 11PM This gig is somewhere in limbo...Although it's happening for sure, our inclusion is not certain. If you live in the greater New York area and would be interested in seeing us join this bill, or if you just want to help support us in our endeavor to bring our shows to people, here's what you can do.. View The Wrong Way Inn's website ( if it's working) at: www.auralisland.com/wrongwayinn Drop a note to the booking staff at: Aurali at aol.com At this time, we are planning on doing the show, but without some support, it might not happen...Peace, Mike Burro This could be an incredible time!!! www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Apr 21 14:24:18 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:24:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: SLOTERDIJK; Long Island appearnce a go!!! April 28th!!! Message-ID: SLOTERDIJK: will indeed appear on Long Island, next Saturday, April 28th.. We will be at "The Wrong Way" in Amityville: http://www.four95.com/wwinn.htm The complete schedule of bands will be: Sloterdijk: 9PM Fathom: 10PM Finally Balanced 11PM Contact venue regarding entry fee. I know it will be reasonable.. This will likely be our only Long Island show of the season..Take a short roadtrip and come party!!! We need a good turnout at this show, besides, imagine the looks on your friend's faces when you tell them you spent the night in Amityville.. Peace!!! www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From cosmos at WANADOO.NL Sat Apr 21 16:19:04 2001 From: cosmos at WANADOO.NL (cosmos at WANADOO.NL) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:19:04 +0200 Subject: these need a new home ;) Message-ID: hello sorry for being off topic but here's some music someone hopefully likes more then me. prefer to trade or will/can also sell. just make me an offer or ask for more information. andr? catharsis - les chevrons cd coil / time machines - queens of the circulating library cd in clear shell creatures - feast lp eroc changing skies cd mick farren mona the carnivorous circus cd floh de cologne profitgeier cd gialma 3 - l'isola del tonal cd grobschnitt rockpommel?s land cd grobschnitt solar music live cd hawkwind - decide your future cd e.p. hawkwind - live seventy nine / levitation cd japanese pressing very rare !! helios creed - kiss to the brain cd joy division - concert effenaar eindhoven 2 lp set kristyl kristyl lp re-release klaus kruger - collection cd mauve sideshow meet me in the wasteland cd mooch 3001 cd mother gong - the best of cd mournblade - times running out lp with lyricssheets non - easy listening for iron youth cd popol vuh coeur de verre cd public image ltd. - metal box cd in film-tin psychic TV - descending cd numbered edition catherine ribeiro + alpes (libert?s ?) cd klaus schulze - inter*face cd siouxsie and the banshees - peek a boo cd-ep + cd videotrack sonic youth - halloween 12" orange vinyl alan sorrenti - come un vecchio incensiere all'alba cd tangerine dream goblins club evo cd this heat- health and efficiency 12" david van tieghem these things happen lp tubilah dog in search of plaice cd wapassou salammbo cd widowmaker - too late to cry cd with huw lloyd langton witthuser & westrupp trips und traume cd ya ho wha 13 i?m gonna take you home cd frank zappa - 200 motels 2 lp set dutch pressing with large booklet a daimond hidden in the mouth of a corpse - sampler with w.s. burroughs / husker du / cabaret voltaire / diamanda galas / coil / michael gira / sonic youth etc. etc. lp From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Apr 21 16:26:34 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:26:34 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farflung gnus Message-ID: Hi Folks... I got some updated info from Tommy (via Jerry) on all topics Farflungen... Tommy's writing is fairly cryptic, so difficult to determine actual meaning of some bits...I've rewritten as best I could to make it more 'legible.' Hope this is an accurate representation of his meaning.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ New Farflung album to appear on the Falcata-Galia label in two months. Title: When Science Fails (http://come.to/falcatagalia, see news section) The Myth of Solid Ground - still looking for a label to release it. They're looking for ideas...anyone? New Anubian Lights album out in May, entitled Naz Bar, on the Crippled Dick Hotwax label in Germany, with distribution by Caroline. (http://www.crippled.com, news section says 4/27 release, and mentions something else about a remix 12" or something) Also in May, a Nik Turner 2CD set "America...The Tours, the Trials, the Basement" [with unreleased studio tracks, featuring ex-Hawks/ex-Deviants?] Live US 1995-2000, on Transparency. Tommy also appears on on both the new Chrome and Helios Creed LPs. Grakkl (FAA) From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Apr 21 18:08:06 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:08:06 -0400 Subject: additional URL for "The Wrong Way Inn", Amityville, NY (LI) Message-ID: This URL for the Wrong Way in Amityville Long Island is more up to date and has a schedule etc.....www.wrongwayinn.com (631) 798-9132 Hope to see you there, remember the schedule will be prompt: Saturday, April 28th Sloterdijk: 9PM Fathom: 10PM Finally Balanced 11PM $5.00 entry 21+ to enter sorry about the bombardment of info, but it has been a rather ineresting day...Peace!!! Sloterdijk www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Apr 21 23:53:23 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:53:23 -0400 Subject: Sloterdijk: setlist 4/21; Trenton, New Jersey Message-ID: Uranium Zone Tomorrow and Tonight Astronomy Golden Void The Watcher ( first time played live) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Apr 22 00:02:26 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:02:26 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farvergflungen merchandise In-Reply-To: <200104202243.SAA21862@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, K Henderson wrote: => Hey, I just discovered there's another thing within Ebay that sells items at => a fixed price (as opposed to auctioning), and there's copies of these three => available also, for about $7-9. => => It's called www.half.com (can be searched through regular Ebay) - I'd never => seen that before today. Shows how observant *I* am. => => I assume it works the same way as 'Buy It Now' in Ebay...in fact, seems => rather redundant, dudn't it? Half.com was a separate company until eBay wisely acquired it. Half.com predates "buy it now," and is slightly different. "Buy it now" can be used on any auction item; half.com lists only items that bear a UPC code. With half.com, sellers can list used items at a price at which they're prepared to sell them, with the proviso that---and here's the big clue to the name---it is at *least* half the UPC list price. So, in a sense, sellers on half.com are overtly bidding against themselves in a way, unlike regular eBay auctions in which the bidders compete. Also, "buy it now" can only be used before an item receives any bids, which can be a hassle if someone puts in a minimum bid, meaning you have to wait out the auction until it expires. :-( The advantage of half.com is you can buy something immediately, without having to wait several days for an auction to end, and even then maybe frustratingly get sniped out of an item right in the last seconds. I think that's what motivated the addition of "buy it now," in part. (The other, bigger motivation being the increased turnover in auctions for eBay by them completing faster.) You might be able to get items for cheaper on eBay; I don't remember if a study showed higher average completed auction prices to be higher on eBay than on half.com, though. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 22 04:29:31 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:59:31 +0930 Subject: heroes of the Astral realms OFF Message-ID: Hello good people I hope you are all faring well Keep up the good work From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sun Apr 22 16:18:57 2001 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:18:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Ginger video help Message-ID: Hello, Does anyone have any video footage of Ginger Baker playing with Hawkwind? If so, please contact us as soon as possible.......... Thanks Kris From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Apr 22 17:48:19 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:48:19 EDT Subject: HW: Ginger video help Message-ID: In a message dated 4/22/01 4:18:07 PM, boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK writes: << Does anyone have any video footage of Ginger Baker playing with Hawkwind? If so, please contact us as soon as possible.......... >> ======= "who's gonna win the war" and incomplete 'motorway city' [?] at the end of a german tv show? == for me to have such a thing suggests it surely could be had... back me up here someone... "<>" From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Apr 22 19:02:29 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Snoid) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:02:29 -0600 Subject: HW: Ginger video help In-Reply-To: <103.21a0774.2814aba3@aol.com> Message-ID: In a message dated 4/22/01 4:18:07 PM, boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK writes: "Does anyone have any video footage of Ginger Baker playing with Hawkwind?" there's the Bronze promo mini video, but surely they have that.... coleman From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Sun Apr 22 18:37:53 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:37:53 -0500 Subject: HW: Ginger video help Message-ID: Yeah, there is footage of a German TV show out there that includes "Who's Gonna Win the War?" and "Motorway City" with a brief Ginger interview... because everyone into Hawkwind bootlegs seems to have this video, I am imagining that it must be possible to track down the original source tape.... anyone? John Majka jmajka2 at home.com Hello, Does anyone have any video footage of Ginger Baker playing with Hawkwind? If so, please contact us as soon as possible.......... Thanks Kris From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Apr 22 20:04:07 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Snoid) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:04:07 -0600 Subject: HW: Ginger video help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: also....anyone who's not seen the Bronze promo video SHOULD,,,, Dave has face painted like Arthur Brown, really rocks out, it's acoolun...(spooky too!) terminal michael From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Apr 23 01:23:16 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:53:16 +0930 Subject: HW: Ginger video help Message-ID: Ok - I haven't seen it - who do I have to shag to get a copy? Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Snoid To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 9:34 AM Subject: Re: HW: Ginger video help > also....anyone who's not seen the Bronze promo video SHOULD,,,, > > Dave has face painted like Arthur Brown, really rocks out, it's > acoolun...(spooky too!) > > terminal michael > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 23 02:36:42 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Snoid) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:36:42 -0600 Subject: HW: (offish) Ginger video help In-Reply-To: <003b01c0cbb5$8208ae60$02cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: MB australia: Re: Bronze Promo Video's "Ok - I haven't seen it - who do I have to shag to get a copy?" umm.... The Band??? but seriously, if you don an apron, catch a red-eye over, help me pack a few overdue records, chase a few dust-bunnys out the door, clean my extra VCR + remind me how to connect the 2 together (I forgot).....that'll do... otherwise..send Farflung 12"ers, and singles and comps..... mc From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 23 03:40:04 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Snoid) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 01:40:04 -0600 Subject: HW: Ginger video help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: to Michael in OZ.....dude I was joking ....where'd ya go? ******************************************************************************* the video is a comp put out by Bronze.....it is from my memory about 4 songs...... there is a tiny bit of overlap from the 79-89 video, but not much, and the footage is way clearer/better..... I don't own the original......(but have nice 2nd gen. copy) I hope someone else will explain more on this..... sell me original....??? I will make you a copy Michael.......if anyone else wants copys, send mint or mint minus condition Warrior LP cover "without the hair"........ these 4 words shall enter the dream realm until result..."Warrior, without the hair"....."Warrior, without the hair"...... this is the magic key to this earth....give it to me..... *** From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 23 06:20:51 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:20:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Ginger video help In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:18:57 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > Hello, > > Does anyone have any video footage of Ginger Baker playing with = > Hawkwind? > If so, please contact us as soon as possible.......... Isn't he on the two track Bronze promo video? I can check if you like? Mike (FoFP) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 23 06:23:45 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:23:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Ginger video help In-Reply-To: Snoid's message of Mon, 23 Apr 2001 01:40:04 -0600 Message-ID: Snoid writes: > the video is a comp put out by Bronze.....it is from my memory about 4 > songs...... It has 2 Hawkwind tracks and some other bands (Motorhead, Girlschool and someone else). > there is a tiny bit of overlap from the 79-89 video, but not much, and the > footage is way clearer/better..... Yep. It's the same tracks but the effects used are different. > I don't own the original..... I think I might. FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Apr 23 07:10:48 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:40:48 +0930 Subject: HW: Ginger video help Message-ID: had to go back to work finished now If you are able to get a copy of that video that would be great - Just don't expect any shaggin tho haha :) Still lookin out for that Warrior LP for ya matey! Michael_In_Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: Snoid To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 5:10 PM Subject: Re: HW: Ginger video help > to Michael in OZ.....dude I was joking ....where'd ya go? > **************************************************************************** *** > the video is a comp put out by Bronze.....it is from my memory about 4 > songs...... > > there is a tiny bit of overlap from the 79-89 video, but not much, and the > footage is way clearer/better..... > > I don't own the original......(but have nice 2nd gen. copy) I hope someone > else will explain more on this..... > > sell me original....??? > > I will make you a copy Michael.......if anyone else wants copys, send mint > or mint minus condition Warrior LP cover "without the hair"........ > > these 4 words shall enter the dream realm until result..."Warrior, without > the hair"....."Warrior, without the hair"...... > > this is the magic key to this earth....give it to me..... > > *** > From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Apr 23 13:32:04 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:32:04 -0400 Subject: HW: All in one Message-ID: Fantasy line up: Dave Brock Bob Calvert Lemmy Tim Blake Huw Lloyd Langton Simon King Favourite five albums in chronological order: In Search of Space Space Ritual Warrior on the edge of time Quark, Strangeness and Charm Live '79 and a special mention for Cpt. Lockheed and New Jerusalem What's with all these digs on Tims voice? Okay it's not the best but neither is Alan Daveys, Harvey Bainbridge who thinks the louder you shout the better it sounds or even Huweys. Listen to a couple of odd albums last night for the first time in years, Zones what a load of cr** and Out and Intake, pleasently surprised. Picked myself up again with In Search of Space, amazing! Has anyone had any break through with the recent Top Ten footage yet? Eddie. From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Apr 23 09:33:26 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:33:26 +0100 Subject: HW: All in one Message-ID: Hi in reply to " Listen to a couple of odd albums last night for the first time in years, Zones what a load of cr** " did the same last week when off with the flu. 1 /Zones I used to love that LP, as some of it was from bristol, I didn't really care for it last week at all. ( anyone know how good the quality is of the 82' boot from bristol is ?, or if any one has a copy of it even ?) 2/ ITBOTFTBD - well that really is a brilliant album. I remembered it as good , but not that good. Its totally excellent. 3/ Palace Springs - listen to that after someone where said it sounded great. And there not wrong. Some brilliant stuff on that as well. 4/ Text of Festival - I could never listen to that album when it came out, i thought is was absolute BoLL*Ks . I could never pick out any instruments or anything. I played the first side and was pleasently suprised to actually be able to hear what was being played. Still a pile of poo though. > regards iain From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Mon Apr 23 09:48:09 2001 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 06:48:09 -0700 Subject: OFF: Farflung gnus Message-ID: Thanks for all the Farflung posts - I ordered _The Raven that Ate the Moon_ from half.com over the weekend (thanks for the tip, KH - there is still another copy there for US$8.99...). After placing my order, I had a moral dilemma where the site recommended these 2 titles: Blind Idiot God Dope, Guns, and F*ckin' in the Streets What kind of sinful world have I entered? :-) Pretty much hits all your major transgressions right there in those two titles. My brother the preacher would not be amused! MWood NP: Farflung - _25k fps_ (same tracks/times as KH) ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ From r.burton at HW.AC.UK Mon Apr 23 10:05:25 2001 From: r.burton at HW.AC.UK (Rob Burton) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:05:25 +0100 Subject: HW: All in one Message-ID: wasn't fussed by Outake Intake myself when I bought it all those years ago but listening to it recently I think it is amazing showing great breadth and energy. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "ejobson" To: Sent: 23 April 2001 18:32 Subject: HW: All in one > Fantasy line up: > > Dave Brock > Bob Calvert > Lemmy > Tim Blake > Huw Lloyd Langton > Simon King > > > Favourite five albums in chronological order: > > In Search of Space > Space Ritual > Warrior on the edge of time > Quark, Strangeness and Charm > Live '79 > > and a special mention for Cpt. Lockheed and New Jerusalem > > What's with all these digs on Tims voice? Okay it's not the best but neither > is Alan Daveys, Harvey Bainbridge who thinks the louder you shout the better > it sounds or even Huweys. > > Listen to a couple of odd albums last night for the first time in years, > Zones what a load of cr** and Out and Intake, pleasently surprised. Picked > myself up again with In Search of Space, amazing! > > Has anyone had any break through with the recent Top Ten footage yet? > > Eddie. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 23 11:09:05 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:09:05 -0400 Subject: HW: All in one Message-ID: The Bristol 82 boot is of excellent quality and is from the soundboard; i have a copy:). From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 23 11:15:44 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:15:44 -0400 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:52:22 -0600, Mike C wrote: > and for the "more clenched" factions out there...... "More clenched"????????:) > I have Nothing against Steve Swindells, I don't know if he's Gay or >Straight or in-between, I'd simply heard he's participated in "Gay Rights" >activities >in the past..... Yes, Steve is gay. My Fantasy line-up: Vocals: Sam Fox, Bridget Wishart, Captain Rizz Guitar: Dead Fred Keyboards: Twink Bass: Dave Anderson Drums: Ginger Baker Well, OK, I have some weird fantasies but nobody ever said it had to be a good fantasy! From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 23 12:29:32 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Snoid) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:29:32 -0600 Subject: HW: Ginger video help In-Reply-To: <200104231020.LAA02689@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: FoFP writes: "Isn't he on the two track Bronze promo video?" Incorrect..Lose a turn..... say tan From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 23 12:33:38 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Snoid) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:33:38 -0600 Subject: HW: Ginger video help In-Reply-To: <200104231023.LAA03783@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: More FoFP: "Yep. It's the same tracks but the effects used are different. I don't own the original....." I don't either ...but the Fresh Fest Footprint is imprinted well enough that I recall whatever effects are the same are not worth mentioning....it's a different video.....it is of great quality....and there are SEVERAL videos.... em see From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 23 12:49:24 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Snoid) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:49:24 -0600 Subject: HW: All in one In-Reply-To: <000801c0cbfe$71ec09c0$907151c2@scot.ac.uk> Message-ID: "wasn't fussed by Outake Intake myself when I bought it all those years ago but listening to it recently I think it is amazing showing great breadth and energy". Rob" swooping in to second that statemant.....as well as to say that I played "Zones" Spanish LP and that was brilliant...... mike From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 23 12:00:24 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:00:24 -0400 Subject: HW: All in one Message-ID: I rather like both Zones and "Intake". Both are a bit messy but there are some good recordings on both of them. From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Apr 23 12:33:23 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:33:23 EDT Subject: OFF: Farflung gnus Message-ID: In a message dated 4/23/01 9:49:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mwood at MY-DEJA.COM writes: > Dope, Guns, and F*ckin' in the Streets > > What kind of sinful world have I entered? :-) this LP has a non-LP Helios Creed track, I'm not at home, so I can't look it up. It might be "the last laugh" bob From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Apr 23 12:54:20 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:54:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Good Suggestions for London record Shops/Capt Lockheed Message-ID: London Status Report: Well Selectadisc is superb, cheap and lots in stock. They had Bob Calvert Hype Cds for 2-99!!! Surreally Sitting on the Coach in Front of me on the way to London, this bloke had a notebook open with a list of aircraft(models) he wanted to buy. In there was, Lockheed Starfighter F104. lol. Synchronicity. Does anyone know if the sound quality is uch better on the remastered Captain lockheed CD, than on the original CD release? Rich W From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Apr 23 16:02:30 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:02:30 -0400 Subject: OFF: Burg Herzberg Message-ID: Hi Folks... Is anyone here planning to go this event? So many excellent bands! I've seen a rumour that this may be the last one...is that true? If so, I'm going to do my best to make it over, esp. given no outdoor Strange Daze (apparently, a travelling indoor show w/ MQB and Harvey is all Jim is planning). Sadly, it seems Guru Guru has been dropped from the bill, but then they've added Magma, the Ozrics, and Korai Orom so it's really becoming too good to pass up!! I know this place is near Frankfurt, but how easy is it to get there from the airport w/o a car? Could I hop on a train and get within reasonable hiking distance (< 5 miles) from the campgrounds? Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Doug...what are Pretty Things like these days? I only have SFSorrow and another disc from c. 1975 (?)...do they have any recent stuff that I should hear before seeing them? Burg Herzberg Open-Air 2001 Date: July 19 - 22, 2001 Location: Burg Herzberg, Germany Scheduled artists: Mainstage: Galaxy Transport, Nova Drive, Ozric Tentacles, Neues Glas Aus Alten Scherben, Sunya Beat, Alvin Lee/Ten Years After, Porcupine Tree, Living Blues, Keef Hartley Band, Pretty Things, Big Brother And The Holding Company, Roger Chapmann, Late September Dogs, Magma, RPWL, Fiddlers Green, Caravan, Anekdoten, Embryo, Birth Control Prog Stage: Golden Buddah, Harkan T?rk ?zil Trio, Kampf Gegen Den Schlaf, Korai ?r?m, Trial, Kampec Dolores, Bud U.A. GOA-Stage: Performed by Free-Form Hamburg 4 DJs and 3 live-acts From novadrive at HOME.COM Mon Apr 23 17:32:19 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:32:19 -0700 Subject: Burg Herzberg In-Reply-To: <200104232114.RAA20572@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: ???? A band called Nova Drive? Someone stealing the name that I stole from PXR5 (and which Alan hijacked along the way as well)? Zots! KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of K Henderson Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:02 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Burg Herzberg ... Burg Herzberg Open-Air 2001 Date: July 19 - 22, 2001 Location: Burg Herzberg, Germany Scheduled artists: Mainstage: ..., Nova Drive, ..., ......... From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 23 18:15:18 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:15:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: Burg Herzberg Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:02:30 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >P.S. Doug...what are Pretty Things like these days? I only have SFSorrow >and another disc from c. 1975 (?)...do they have any recent stuff that I >should hear before seeing them? They are quite excellent live, both at their psychedelic-era stuff ('S.F. Sorrow') AND their earlier raunchier-than-the-Stones/Yardbirds/etc. R&B/punk sound. Pretty amazing for a bunch of 60-year-olds, and it was quite a revelation to see/hear Dick Taylor playing psychedelic guitar leads which demonstrated he was *definitely* a major influence on Dave Brock's transition from acoustic busker to electric spacerock diety. The latest PT recording ('Rage Before Beauty') is surprisingly good for a "reunion" album, but none of their post-'Parachute' (the album after S.F. Sorrow) material is as essential as (chronologically): 'The Pretty Things' - snarling R&B/punk, lotsa Bo Diddley covers 'Get The Picture' - like the first, but with quieter/folk influences, too 'Emotions' - out-of-place orchestra overdubs, but good songs 'S.F. Sorrow' - psychedelic masterpiece & the first "rock opera" 'Parachute' - another good psych album, but with Victor Unitt (Edgar Broughton Band) replacing Dick Taylor -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Apr 23 18:27:57 2001 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:27:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Die Losung LP for sale Message-ID: Hi, Anybody interested in buying a vinyl copy of Amon Duul II & Bob Calvert's Die Losung LP? Vinyl & sleeve both in perfect condition, having only been played once back in 87? E-mail me privately at jeremy at dacombe.fsnet.co.uk if interested. Cheers, Jez From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Apr 23 19:02:20 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:02:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Bedouin + Alchemysts in Cambridge Message-ID: Dear All, happy at last to be able to confirm this date! On May the 18th Cambridge (UK!) will be visited by two of the country's finest under-recognised power trios, the one-and-only Bedouin plus support from the equally unique Alchemysts. This gig is being organised by Cambridge Rock Society and tickets will be GBP4 to members, and GBP8 to non-members. Further info on ticket purchase from the venue, which is the Cambridge Boat Race, 170 East Road, Cambridge, CD1 1DB, tel. 01223 508533, fax. 01223 576064, website . Band sites up at (under development) and care of Woronzow Records at . This will most likely be loud, fast and energetic and I'd ask anyone who might consider coming to bring several friends to take cover behind :-) But come even if you can't get them to! Thanks a lot, yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Apr 23 19:45:43 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:45:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: Used to be Space Rock; What is it? Now Farflung In-Reply-To: <36.147e3d9b.280cca12@aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > > 1.Solar Electric/Open Yr Mouth > > > 2.Don't Forget to Breathe > > > 3.title track > > > 4. and 5. Greater Waters (pts one and two, perhaps) > > > 6.Landing on Cydonia > > > 7.Hot Fluffy Mind > > > > I always figured `Solar Electric' to be the two-part track on > > there. `Open Your Mouth', identifiable as such by the vocals, is tracked > > as No. 2 on my copy. > > RU absolutely sure?? This is the regular Flipside disc, I assume, with the > quiet out-put, etc... Every copy I've seen has the above tendencies... > > Or are you reckoning the latter part of No. 1 as part > > of `Open Your Mouth' rather than `Solar Electric'? > > On my copy, birds twitter at the end of SE, then OYM kicks in (obvious from > the lyrics, as you said), while the track still reads #1. > I mean it like it is...like it sounds... :) > > Because the riffs are > > different... Although there's no reason why one song couldn't have two > > riffs even on a space-rock album :-) I just don't see any real reason to > > suppose that the tracking's awry, I think it's meant to be like > > that. Certainly I wouldn't split up `Greater Waters', it only makes sense > > all together! My opinion only of course, yours, > > Jon > > I wouldn't either! It's the tracking on the disc that insists on this! :) Mine tracks like Keith's; I reckon you have a "collectable" version mate :-) > not like it matters or anything...just whiling away the time... But when I > interview Grenas, I'll try to get the scoop on the Raven tracking, which i > know we all agree on... I had a brief correspondance with the erstwhile bass-player Buck McGibbony about that; he was evasive, but agreed that the title track is correct as it stands, a three-piece suite. He began by saying, however, "I get really steamed whenever I think about how sloppily that album was mastered. We were rushed for time and had to rely on the mastering house to do the tracking and they got it completely wrong. The correct track listing is impossible to describe since the internal track numbers on the CD don't even point to the actual song breaks. "Just ignore what your CD is telling you and refer to the liner notes. Use your instincts to decide where the songs begin and end... Most of the songs on that album are available on www.MP3.com I decided to release everything to the public for a while until the record company resumes paying out our royalties." No great surprise there I guess... He adds that `Alius Orbis' was a live recording, and that it's the last track on the album, by which I assume he means it begins it as surely the last track (bar the synth run-off) is `The Way the Sky Is' - the lyrics seem to confirm this? None of this cleared up the fact that the number of titles on the back don't match the number of songs refreed to on the credits though :-) Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 23 21:11:02 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Snoid) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:11:02 -0600 Subject: HW: Tammas Greenass/Flunge In-Reply-To: <001901c0cc44$f3ee5860$d135893e@jezd> Message-ID: would someone trade a spiffy CDR of "myth of solid ground" in full coat-of-arms for a missing Hawkwind or related CD???? if it's a guaranteed FAST-FLING??? mike coleman From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Mon Apr 23 20:47:31 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:47:31 -0600 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Message-ID: Just a quick note that the Brixton Hawkestra is being distributed -- all 6 discs! That includes the 3 cdrs for the Hawkwind set, as well as 3 additional cdrs for the following solo sets performed that night: Simon House, Tim Blake, & Bedouin. This is *NOT* a commercial venture, so anybody interested should be able to get a set, provided they're willing to buy their own blanks and pay their own postage (or set up trades, of course). For more information, you can join the neo-quark email group (on yahoogroups.com). A link can be found to the neo-quark group on the following page: http://www.geocities.com/hawklord1999/neoquark.html What's a neo-quark? It's a "Non-commerical Exchange Of Quality Unauthorized Audio Recordings for Kollectors", and after the Brixton Hawkestra we hope to have a few more exchanges. The Brixton Hawkestra tree already has Master Branches set up in the following locations: USA (Eastern) USA (Western) UK Denmark Australia Canada Russia And finally, if the Hawkestra ever does get a legitimate release, we encourage all traders to purchase the authorized item, as without the rocket fuel the spaceship Hawkwind won't fly. Regards, Bryan Young From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Apr 23 19:55:37 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:55:37 -0400 Subject: was Burg Herzberg Message-ID: Kevin Sommers interjects.... >???? A band called Nova Drive? Someone stealing the name that I stole from >PXR5 (and which Alan hijacked along the way as well)? >Zots! Hey, there's a 'new' band in Detroit, MI called Novadriver (one or two words, can't be sure) that has their debut CD coming out very shortly (next month I think). Three of the four guys were previously in a band called "Walk on Water" who were an excellent high-octane psychedelic band (think MC5 meets Monster Magnet) that put out three CDs during the 1990s. It'll be on the Small Stone label there in Detroit and I'm really looking forward to it. I'll let you know how it sounds when the time comes. Grakkl (FAA) ObCD: Couch - Fantasy (German Post-rock quartet, released on Matador) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 23 21:31:17 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:31:17 -0400 Subject: OFF: was Burg Herzberg Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:55:37 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >ObCD: Couch - Fantasy (German Post-rock quartet, released on Matador) Funny that this should come up in a message about hijacked band names! The "original" Couch from Ann Arbor, MI (no-wavers on the Bulb label) broke up several years ago, so I was wondering why they were listed as opening for Bevis Frond in San Francisco. I assume that the German Couch Keith mentions is the one playing there ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 24 02:30:05 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Eddy of Despair) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:30:05 -0600 Subject: HW: Ginger video help In-Reply-To: <000f01c0cbe6$0dcb0760$d3cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: conducted investigation ..... Bronxe promo video consists of just 3 tracks...they are 'whose gonna win the war', 'world of tiers', and 'levitation'.... The video is absolutely fantastic...I say this in truth, not to boast (I don't own it anyway)..... despite some lines here and there, a flutter or 2, it is just magnificent, and is my favorite HW video footage I have..... There are a million close shots of everyone....Ginger is looking extremely happy and good spirits....plenty of him..... there is 1 fatal flaw.....it has a blurb for Bronze records up and visible throughout entire footage....also, shots of the Levitation LP are visible inbetween songs.... so Mike(FoFP)....if you would enjoy setting me straight as to exactly who Tim's replacement is that plays here, that I am uncertain of....rub it on in.... great footage of him as well (just not direct face cam) Nice keys! I don't expect results (as usual) but if someone out there has a genuine original of this, I will trade pretty good for it...... and for the record.....(actually for the record) I come to the understanding that the precious Warrior LP "without the hair" (giggles) is actually a 1977 repress!?? If this can be confirmed please do it, and guess what..... looks like I'm good on that one.......... say goodnight to "the hair" for now...... mike c From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Apr 24 04:13:57 2001 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:13:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: Burg Herzberg In-Reply-To: <200104232215.SAA01537@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200104232215.SAA01537 at listserv.spc.edu>, Douglas Pearson writes >'The Pretty Things' - snarling R&B/punk, lotsa Bo Diddley covers >'Get The Picture' - like the first, but with quieter/folk influences, too >'Emotions' - out-of-place orchestra overdubs, but good songs >'S.F. Sorrow' - psychedelic masterpiece & the first "rock opera" >'Parachute' - another good psych album, but with Victor Unitt (Edgar >Broughton Band) replacing Dick Taylor Plus the album they did as "Electric Banana" around the Emotions / S.F. Sorrow! FWIW I quite like the horns and strings on Emotions. The remaster has with and without versions and I prefer the "with", more often than not. All the above are essential 60's LP's. For a moment there (late 64 perhaps), they were the greatest band in the UK I reckon, just before The Who hit their stride. -- Jon From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 24 04:17:21 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:17:21 -0400 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Message-ID: Bryan. Please sign me up for this one. Regards, COLIN From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Tue Apr 24 05:44:22 2001 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:44:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkestra Message-ID: Dude, Add me to the list please, who's the UK Branch and what's the address to send blanks too etc... Drooling in anticipation, Mark (Hasbeen). ----------------- Original Message -------------------- Just a quick note that the Brixton Hawkestra is being distributed -- all 6 discs! That includes the 3 cdrs for the Hawkwind set, as well as 3 additional cdrs for the following solo sets performed that night: Simon House, Tim Blake, & Bedouin. This is *NOT* a commercial venture, so anybody interested should be able to get a set, provided they're willing to buy their own blanks and pay their own postage (or set up trades, of course). For more information, you can join the neo-quark email group (on yahoogroups.com). A link can be found to the neo-quark group on the following page: http://www.geocities.com/hawklord1999/neoquark.html What's a neo-quark? It's a "Non-commerical Exchange Of Quality Unauthorized Audio Recordings for Kollectors", and after the Brixton Hawkestra we hope to have a few more exchanges. The Brixton Hawkestra tree already has Master Branches set up in the following locations: USA (Eastern) USA (Western) UK Denmark Australia Canada Russia And finally, if the Hawkestra ever does get a legitimate release, we encourage all traders to purchase the authorized item, as without the rocket fuel the spaceship Hawkwind won't fly. -------------------------- END ------------------------ From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Tue Apr 24 10:49:19 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:49:19 -0400 Subject: Hawkestra In-Reply-To: <91BAA0121CBDD31183B400A0CC585F7103C1D1@BRIGHTON> Message-ID: Likewise -----Original Message----- From: Mark Lee [mailto:mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM] Sent: 24 April 2001 05:44 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Hawkestra Dude, Add me to the list please, who's the UK Branch and what's the address to send blanks too etc... Drooling in anticipation, Mark (Hasbeen). ----------------- Original Message -------------------- Just a quick note that the Brixton Hawkestra is being distributed -- all 6 discs! That includes the 3 cdrs for the Hawkwind set, as well as 3 additional cdrs for the following solo sets performed that night: Simon House, Tim Blake, & Bedouin. This is *NOT* a commercial venture, so anybody interested should be able to get a set, provided they're willing to buy their own blanks and pay their own postage (or set up trades, of course). For more information, you can join the neo-quark email group (on yahoogroups.com). A link can be found to the neo-quark group on the following page: http://www.geocities.com/hawklord1999/neoquark.html What's a neo-quark? It's a "Non-commerical Exchange Of Quality Unauthorized Audio Recordings for Kollectors", and after the Brixton Hawkestra we hope to have a few more exchanges. The Brixton Hawkestra tree already has Master Branches set up in the following locations: USA (Eastern) USA (Western) UK Denmark Australia Canada Russia And finally, if the Hawkestra ever does get a legitimate release, we encourage all traders to purchase the authorized item, as without the rocket fuel the spaceship Hawkwind won't fly. -------------------------- END ------------------------ From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Tue Apr 24 06:02:07 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:02:07 +0100 Subject: Hawkestra Message-ID: and me, me, me Sam -----Original Message----- From: ejobson [mailto:ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET] Sent: 24 April 2001 15:49 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkestra Likewise -----Original Message----- From: Mark Lee [mailto:mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM] Sent: 24 April 2001 05:44 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Hawkestra Dude, Add me to the list please, who's the UK Branch and what's the address to send blanks too etc... Drooling in anticipation, Mark (Hasbeen). ----------------- Original Message -------------------- Just a quick note that the Brixton Hawkestra is being distributed -- all 6 discs! That includes the 3 cdrs for the Hawkwind set, as well as 3 additional cdrs for the following solo sets performed that night: Simon House, Tim Blake, & Bedouin. This is *NOT* a commercial venture, so anybody interested should be able to get a set, provided they're willing to buy their own blanks and pay their own postage (or set up trades, of course). For more information, you can join the neo-quark email group (on yahoogroups.com). A link can be found to the neo-quark group on the following page: http://www.geocities.com/hawklord1999/neoquark.html What's a neo-quark? It's a "Non-commerical Exchange Of Quality Unauthorized Audio Recordings for Kollectors", and after the Brixton Hawkestra we hope to have a few more exchanges. The Brixton Hawkestra tree already has Master Branches set up in the following locations: USA (Eastern) USA (Western) UK Denmark Australia Canada Russia And finally, if the Hawkestra ever does get a legitimate release, we encourage all traders to purchase the authorized item, as without the rocket fuel the spaceship Hawkwind won't fly. -------------------------- END ------------------------ *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Tue Apr 24 06:13:52 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:13:52 +0200 Subject: Hawkestra Message-ID: Who is the original seed for this project? I am curious whose recordings will be the one used? I know 4 different people who recorded this event.. 2 analog and 2 digital (Minidisc). scott From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Apr 24 07:14:51 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:14:51 +0800 Subject: HW: Hawkestra Message-ID: Mark Lee wrote: > Dude, > > Add me to the list please, who's the UK Branch and what's the > address to send blanks too etc... > > Drooling in anticipation, > > Mark (Hasbeen). > And me too :-) Wondering who the Australian branch is and how to make contact Thanks in advance Bill From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 24 09:02:21 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:02:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway In-Reply-To: BL Young's message of Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:47:31 -0600 Message-ID: BL Young writes: > Just a quick note that the Brixton Hawkestra is being distributed -- all 6 > discs! That includes the 3 cdrs for the Hawkwind set, as well as 3 > additional cdrs for the following solo sets performed that night: Simon > House, Tim Blake, & Bedouin. Put me down for this and keep me posted. FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Apr 24 09:34:32 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 23:04:32 +0930 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Message-ID: Me too -= I'd love to hear this as well Cheers Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:32 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway > BL Young writes: > > > Just a quick note that the Brixton Hawkestra is being distributed -- all 6 > > discs! That includes the 3 cdrs for the Hawkwind set, as well as 3 > > additional cdrs for the following solo sets performed that night: Simon > > House, Tim Blake, & Bedouin. > > Put me down for this and keep me posted. > > FoFP From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Tue Apr 24 10:18:18 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:18:18 -0500 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Message-ID: Sign me up as well for a Brixton set of CDs....although I have no burner, so can't burn for others. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Tue Apr 24 10:16:56 2001 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:16:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Message-ID: Michael W Blackman wrote: > Me too -= I'd love to hear this as well Me three... Keef -- Technical Guru Phone:0207 973 4000 Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 London W1D 3BP mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 24 10:11:14 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:11:14 +0100 Subject: Hawkestra Message-ID: Yes, we are rather curious about this ourselves. GARY & ANNA ----- Original Message ----- From: SHLL (Scott Heller) To: Sent: 24 April 2001 11:13 Subject: Re: Hawkestra > Who is the original seed for this project? I am curious whose recordings > will be the one used? I know 4 different people who recorded this event.. 2 > analog and 2 digital (Minidisc). > > scott > From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Tue Apr 24 11:03:09 2001 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:03:09 -0400 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Message-ID: > Just a quick note that the Brixton Hawkestra is being distributed -- all 6 > discs! That includes the 3 cdrs for the Hawkwind set, as well as 3 > additional cdrs for the following solo sets performed that night: Simon > House, Tim Blake, & Bedouin. > > This is *NOT* a commercial venture, so anybody interested should be able to > get a set, provided they're willing to buy their own blanks and pay their > own postage (or set up trades, of course). I'm interested. US (eastern). Jerry From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Apr 24 11:58:10 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:58:10 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse of the Hidden Mirror cover artwork! Message-ID: http://www.sanctuaryrecordsgroup.com/cmc/boc.html What exactly is going on in this picture? Still, I already like it much better than the HF artwork. :-) Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Apr 24 12:05:52 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:05:52 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse of the Hidden Mirror cover artwork! Message-ID: Brian Halligan wrote: > http://www.sanctuaryrecordsgroup.com/cmc/boc.html > > What exactly is going on in this picture? Still, I already like it much > better than the HF artwork. :-) > > > Brian > > -- > Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower > MP3 Radio > Updated Semi-Occasionally > http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html > > Love the pic.. but "availalbe".. common ROFL Nice spell check CMC.... Mike -- ____________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "Some men see things as they are and say 'Why?' I dream things that never were and say 'Why not?'" --Robert Kennedy From bert at APPRENTICEIS.COM Tue Apr 24 12:13:15 2001 From: bert at APPRENTICEIS.COM (Bert Edens) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:13:15 -0500 Subject: BOC: Curse of the Hidden Mirror cover artwork! In-Reply-To: <3AE5A460.2090302@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: And don't forget the window title says Dokken... :-) At 12:05 4/24/01 -0400, you wrote: >Brian Halligan wrote: > >>http://www.sanctuaryrecordsgroup.com/cmc/boc.html >> >>What exactly is going on in this picture? Still, I already like it much >>better than the HF artwork. :-) >> >> >>Brian >> >>-- >>Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower >>MP3 Radio >>Updated Semi-Occasionally >>http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html >> >Love the pic.. but "availalbe".. common ROFL > >Nice spell check CMC.... > >Mike > >-- >____________ >Mike Habiby >AIM: MSHabiby >MSN: MikeH12182 >www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 >corwyn at nycap.rr.com >_____________ > >"Some men see things as they are and say 'Why?' I dream things that never >were and say 'Why not?'" --Robert Kennedy From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Apr 24 12:41:44 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:41:44 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse of the Hidden Mirror cover artwork! In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010424111125.03b087b0@mail.apprenticeis.com> Message-ID: Mike Habiby wrote: >> Love the pic.. but "availalbe".. common ROFL >> >> Nice spell check CMC.... >> >> Mike You forget they misspelled an actual song title on all the CDs last time! Bert Edens replied: > And don't forget the window title says Dokken... :-) It may be the best year for BOC in over a decade, and they're actually putting out an album when they said they would (so far), but there's always something to nit-pick. I love it. :-) Brian obSong> Power Underneath Dispair (sic) -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Apr 24 12:46:30 2001 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:46:30 +0100 Subject: HW: New video Footage Message-ID: I have an hour of footage filmed myself as follows: 30 Mins Huw Lloyd Langton (Acoustic) March 2001 London 3 Mins Huwey at Croydon Fairfield halls 2001 Following Hawkwind Tracks Croydon 2001 Golden Void Assasins of allah Spiral Galaxy Motorway city Hurry on sundown Shot from front row! If anyone wants copies email me please. Ben From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 24 13:15:18 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:15:18 EDT Subject: BOC: Curse of the Hidden Mirror cover artwork! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 24 Apr 2001, at 11:58, Brian Halligan wrote: > http://www.sanctuaryrecordsgroup.com/cmc/boc.html > > What exactly is going on in this picture? Still, I already like it > much better than the HF artwork. :-) > I don't know, but I like it. I agree it's better than HF, or at least, more BOC-like. Is the dark object the wing of a plane? And, hell yeah, looks like it'll be released on schedule. Now, how's about that SFG disc? theo From riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM Tue Apr 24 13:39:49 2001 From: riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM (Phillip A Jaeger) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:39:49 -0500 Subject: BOC: Curse of the Hidden Mirror cover artwork! Message-ID: Ted Jackson wrote: > On 24 Apr 2001, at 11:58, Brian Halligan wrote: > > > http://www.sanctuaryrecordsgroup.com/cmc/boc.html > > > > What exactly is going on in this picture? Still, I already like it > > much better than the HF artwork. :-) > > > I don't know, but I like it. I agree it's better than HF, or at least, > more BOC-like. Is the dark object the wing of a plane? > Shadow on the backside of the dune. > > And, hell yeah, looks like it'll be released on schedule. Now, how's > about that SFG disc? > > theo From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Tue Apr 24 13:41:26 2001 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:41:26 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind and related releases Message-ID: Hi, folks: The latest Artist Shop Newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at . Meanwhile, here are some excerpts for Hawkwind fans. New releases from Voiceprint and associated labels Hawkwind/Atomhenge - 76 The kings of Space Rock have been captured live in 1976 with this brilliant recording of a memorable tour. This particular recording is very special as the band are joined by legendary vocalist Bob Calvert. Hawkwind go through their paces playing classics from that period which will be a must for all those in their extensive fanbase. Specially mastered for CD , a double package which comes complete with a full colour reproduction of Hawkwind's 1976 tour program. Hawkwind have a high profile, attracting a lot of press attention especially with recent sell out concerts at Brixton Academy and at the Astoria London. soundbite - Hawkwind/Family Tree Family tree carries on where the Hawkwind Friends and Relations series on Flick - knife Records left off. Family tree is a collection of both solo and group efforts. ALL the tracks are previously unreleased and are collected here to make a very special compendium. Specially mastered for CD and featuring a full colour booklet this album is a must for all Hawkwind fans. There are tracks from the Paradogs, The Little Big Men, Ron Tree, liz Gizzad and of course Dave Brock. soundbite - Paradogs/Foul Play at the Earth Lab Well known Hawkwind member Jerry Richards also performs as Paradogs with Alf Hardy. All the tracks on this album were written and produced by the duo who have carefully crafted their music to ensure that the listener enjoys a brilliant album. Due to the popularity of Hawkwind, and sell out London concerts which also include Jerry Richards, Paradogs are enjoying a high profile. The album will appeal to Hawkwind fans, and is long awaited by the Paradogs own fanbase. Paradogs are featured on a recent Hawkwind release (Family Tree Hawkvp5cd),which will increase the already high interest in this album. soundbite - Harry Williamson/Life in the World Unseen Harry Williamson has worked with great talents over the years and this album includes a good representation of these musicians. From Harry's earlier years during the Mother Gong days there is Didier Malherbe, Guy Evans and from later years Gilli Smyth, Rob Calvert, Rob George (Mother Gong) and Conrad Henderson (Mother Gong). More recent projects have included Liz Van Dort (Faraway) and Miles McNicholl and Harry's daughter Bee who also contribute to this brilliant album. Harry left Gong in 1993 and has pursued his own musical career and this CD is a collection of previously unreleased tracks which he has gathered together covering a 20 year span. The Highlands suite for example captures the Australian landscape with its beauty in desolation quite unlike the European experience. Tibetan instruments, combined with a didgeridoo and angel guitar create a unique mood which is developed by the haunting simple guitar melody. This is by and large an ambient carefully crafted and unusual CD, mainly instrumental and quite unlike anything Harry has released before musically.. There is however a few elements from the later Mother Gong recordings and from Tarka the album he recorded with Anthony Phillips. soundbite - Future releases from Voiceprint and associated labels (pre-order now) Lloyd-Langton Group/Night Air Lloyd-Lang Group/Time, Space & LLG Lloyd-Langton Group/Like An Arrow Huw Lloyd Langton was a founder member and long standing lead guitarist with the psychedelic rock band Hawkwind. He also worked with various bands and musicians including Manfred Mann, Leo Sayer and Widowmaker. Although Huw formed his own band, The Lloyd Langton Group, he continued to perform with Hawkwind. Hawkwind's reunion show at Brixton Academy included Huw in the line up along with Lemmy, and he also played at the Hawkwind Christmas Party at the Astoria London . He also performs solo concerts which attract good reviews. Huw continues to show his versatility as a rock based blues guitarist who plays slow haunting melodies just as easily as complex fast instrumentals. Performing on all guitars and lead vocals Huw is joined on this album by Kenny Wilson (bass), who has performed with 'Dusty', 'Speed Limit' and Ronnie Jones. Drummer John Clark has worked with 'Pretty Things', 'Charlie Witney', and 'Ginger'. These albums have been remastered and feature lovingly chosen artwork. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM Tue Apr 24 13:56:58 2001 From: rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM (RPManny) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:56:58 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse of the Hidden Mirror cover artwork! Message-ID: Yeah, much improved. I'm going to play around with the image and a couple of "paint" programs to see if I can expand the image further. Will let y'all know. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: BOC: Curse of the Hidden Mirror cover artwork! > http://www.sanctuaryrecordsgroup.com/cmc/boc.html > > What exactly is going on in this picture? Still, I already like it much > better than the HF artwork. :-) > > > Brian > > -- > Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower > MP3 Radio > Updated Semi-Occasionally > http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From mail at SUPER-TUNES.DE Tue Apr 24 14:03:26 2001 From: mail at SUPER-TUNES.DE (Chris Appelt) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:03:26 -0400 Subject: Burg Herzberg Message-ID: Hey there, you forgot to mention the Starsound Orchestra with Steve Schroyder (Ex-Tangerine Dream) and the best gong-player of the country Jens Zygar. Ahem and I won't forget to mention the album Sound of Life / Kl?nge des Lebens which I produced with Steve in winter 99/2000 with spacey and meditative sound-paintings. I guess they play on friday. Chris From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue Apr 24 14:50:00 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:50:00 -0400 Subject: BOC: Curse of the Hidden Mirror cover artwork! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 11:58 4.24.01 -0400, you wrote: >http://www.sanctuaryrecordsgroup.com/cmc/boc.html > >What exactly is going on in this picture? Still, I already like it much >better than the HF artwork. :-) > Best BOC artwork since ETL. It has that "style" of surrealism with an un-optimistic edge (and yet, smirks) which defines good BOC. Havent got SFG CD yet, but I will say this: the fact that the tunes were re-worked thrice by the band (the demo tape additions on the remaster and the multiple ones on the soon to be in mailbox CD) shows those boys were insanely productive. A pie eyed dream: BOC does a BOC collectors series of high quality concert recordings in the way King Crim has done. Twould be cool if a tape of SFU or SFG live exists somehwere. Doubtful, lest Bolle has it,. Born to Rock, er... I mean you got B, we got the O and the C er... we gotta rip. yeah. Jason From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Tue Apr 24 14:46:23 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:46:23 -0500 Subject: HW: New video Footage Message-ID: Hey there... This is a video that interests me, but I am in the USA however, so I would require the NTSC format, which I am guessing you can't do? John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > I have an hour of footage filmed myself as follows: > > 30 Mins Huw Lloyd Langton (Acoustic) March 2001 London > 3 Mins Huwey at Croydon Fairfield halls 2001 > > Following Hawkwind Tracks Croydon 2001 > > Golden Void > Assasins of allah > Spiral Galaxy > Motorway city > Hurry on sundown > > Shot from front row! > > If anyone wants copies email me please. > > Ben From Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 24 15:43:51 2001 From: Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:43:51 +0100 Subject: Hawkestra In-Reply-To: <91BAA0121CBDD31183B400A0CC585F7103C1D1@BRIGHTON> Message-ID: Please let me in on this one I am tired of scouring napster for it > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Mark Lee > Sent: 24 April 2001 10:44 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: Hawkestra > > > Dude, > > Add me to the list please, who's the UK Branch and what's the > address to send blanks too etc... > > Drooling in anticipation, > > Mark (Hasbeen). > > ----------------- Original Message -------------------- > > Just a quick note that the Brixton Hawkestra is being distributed -- all 6 > discs! That includes the 3 cdrs for the Hawkwind set, as well as 3 > additional cdrs for the following solo sets performed that night: Simon > House, Tim Blake, & Bedouin. > > This is *NOT* a commercial venture, so anybody interested should > be able to > get a set, provided they're willing to buy their own blanks and pay their > own postage (or set up trades, of course). > > For more information, you can join the neo-quark email group (on > yahoogroups.com). A link can be found to the neo-quark group on the > following page: http://www.geocities.com/hawklord1999/neoquark.html > > What's a neo-quark? It's a "Non-commerical Exchange Of Quality > Unauthorized > Audio Recordings for Kollectors", and after the Brixton Hawkestra > we hope to > have a few more exchanges. > > The Brixton Hawkestra tree already has Master Branches set up in the > following locations: > USA (Eastern) > USA (Western) > UK > Denmark > Australia > Canada > Russia > > And finally, if the Hawkestra ever does get a legitimate release, we > encourage all traders to purchase the authorized item, as without > the rocket > fuel the spaceship Hawkwind won't fly. > > -------------------------- END ------------------------ > From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue Apr 24 17:36:01 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:36:01 -0400 Subject: HW: New Live Date Message-ID: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ++ATTENTION STAR WARRIORS We will be doing the Sun in the East free festival on August 4th in Norwich..... more details etc to follow shortly on Mission Control...... www.hawkwind.org.uk ++MESSAGE ENDS :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 24 17:43:59 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:43:59 +0100 Subject: HW - new at CDS and Bedouin news Message-ID: Just so the world knows, CD Services took delivery today of the Bevis Frond remasters of 'Marshland' and 'Miasma' with the bonus tracks, and the pre-Monster Magnet 'Love Monster' albums on CD, and also the privilege of receiving the final, although unmixed, copy of the whole of the new Bedouin album with Simon House on all of it, and I can honestly say that this Bedouin album will astound those who think it might be OK and amaze those who think it will be good - I don't think anyone could have an inkling that Alan could produce such a quality album that is right here and right now yet evokes the spirit of 'WOTEOT' era Hawkwind. Only sad part is that it seems more and more likely that it will be autumn before the thing comes out but I hope to get some info from Alan this week on that - but believe me -0 it is going to be an album that every Hawkfan is going to have to own. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:55 AM Subject: Re: was Burg Herzberg > Kevin Sommers interjects.... > > >???? A band called Nova Drive? Someone stealing the name that I stole from > >PXR5 (and which Alan hijacked along the way as well)? > >Zots! > > Hey, there's a 'new' band in Detroit, MI called Novadriver (one or two > words, can't be sure) that has their debut CD coming out very shortly (next > month I think). Three of the four guys were previously in a band called > "Walk on Water" who were an excellent high-octane psychedelic band (think > MC5 meets Monster Magnet) that put out three CDs during the 1990s. It'll be > on the Small Stone label there in Detroit and I'm really looking forward to > it. I'll let you know how it sounds when the time comes. > > Grakkl (FAA) > > ObCD: Couch - Fantasy (German Post-rock quartet, released on Matador) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Apr 24 21:58:35 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Winged Rat) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:58:35 -0600 Subject: thanks BoCL/Distant Hurryandbuyzons In-Reply-To: <200104242136.RAA07344@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: dear good folks out there.. thank to those of you who have been so kind,,,,,,,you know yourselves.... on that theme.... I Farfling this....... Distant Horizons is about to "go under"..."out of print"...... Andy Garibaldi is about to score 8 copies...... there you have it...... spacematicbabyoblue From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Apr 25 00:47:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:17:45 +0930 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Dave & Kris Message-ID: PS - Dave & Kris Please release an official HAWKESTRA so I can purchase it as we all will Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:46 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway > Michael W Blackman wrote: > > > Me too -= I'd love to hear this as well > > Me three... > > Keef > > -- > Technical Guru Phone:0207 973 4000 > Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 > 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 > London W1D 3BP mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk > +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Apr 25 00:49:45 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:19:45 +0930 Subject: Hawkestra Message-ID: How about a list of those with burner technology? (1) Michael B {Australia} (2) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Apr 25 01:00:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:30:27 +0930 Subject: HW - new at CDS and Bedouin news Message-ID: Count me in on that one Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 7:13 AM Subject: Re: HW - new at CDS and Bedouin news > Just so the world knows, CD Services took delivery today of the Bevis Frond > remasters of 'Marshland' and 'Miasma' with the bonus tracks, and the > pre-Monster Magnet 'Love Monster' albums on CD, and also the privilege of > receiving the final, although unmixed, copy of the whole of the new Bedouin > album with Simon House on all of it, and I can honestly say that this > Bedouin album will astound those who think it might be OK and amaze those > who think it will be good - I don't think anyone could have an inkling that > Alan could produce such a quality album that is right here and right now yet > evokes the spirit of 'WOTEOT' era Hawkwind. Only sad part is that it seems > more and more likely that it will be autumn before the thing comes out but I > hope to get some info from Alan this week on that - but believe me -0 it is > going to be an album that every Hawkfan is going to have to own. > Andy Garibaldi. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Apr 25 01:03:08 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:33:08 +0930 Subject: thanks BoCL/Distant Hurryandbuyzons Message-ID: I would like one of those ----- Original Message ----- From: Winged Rat To: Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:28 AM Subject: Re: thanks BoCL/Distant Hurryandbuyzons > dear good folks out there.. > thank to those of you who have been so kind,,,,,,,you know yourselves.... > > on that theme.... > > I Farfling this....... > > Distant Horizons is about to "go under"..."out of print"...... > > Andy Garibaldi is about to score 8 copies...... > > there you have it...... > > spacematicbabyoblue From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Wed Apr 25 04:36:42 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (Bryan Young) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 02:36:42 -0600 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Dave & Kris Message-ID: Yes! I've bought every official Hawkwind item (often several times -- vinyl, cd, and even a couple cassettes), and I'd love loads more! (Actually I still need to get a passport & album, but not sure if they're still available, or how I'd manage that from over here in Canada.) The past few years have been great, what with all the Weird Tapes, and the EMI remasters, etc. Here's to many more years and many more amazing albums! The recent Spacebrock & Family Tree are great, too! Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:45 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Dave & Kris >PS - Dave & Kris > >Please release an official HAWKESTRA so I can purchase it as we all will > >Michael B > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Keith Barton >To: >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:46 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway > > >> Michael W Blackman wrote: >> >> > Me too -= I'd love to hear this as well >> >> Me three... >> >> Keef >> >> -- >> Technical Guru Phone:0207 973 4000 >> Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 >> 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 >> London W1D 3BP mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk >> +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ >> From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Wed Apr 25 04:43:59 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:43:59 +0200 Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot of people. It is clearly a Dave Brock solo venture, as I beleive only one track (Spacebrock) actually has any real band playing. For sure the worst thing Dave has ever put out. I enjoy a few tracks but it really has the feel that someone (I woudl guess Dave) went around and just picked up whatever tracks were laying around and slapped them together. There is no cohesiviness in the project and it mostly just sound pieces with samples and some vocals, but not really all the interesting.. I really liked all the other Brock solo lps but this just does not do it for me. I really see the end of Hawkwind...... now......sure they will play some great gigs but the last real HW cd was in 1994 with ALien 4....Distant Horizons was just several disjointed musical pieces slung together for the masses... Don't you think.. I am enjoying the Wierd cds a lot but am disappointed we did not get anything new with them at all. Sound is also not really any better than the best copies of the tapes I have heard. Just some ranting to annoy the masses.. scott ObCD- Gas Giant vs. WE- Riding the Red Horse to the Last Stronghold of the Freaks (promo CD- due out in may on Burnt Hippie Recordings) From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Wed Apr 25 05:01:47 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:01:47 +0100 Subject: spacebrock comments In-Reply-To: <27839F4FFBF6D21181E20008C7C5640806C004BC@exdkba04.novo.dk> Message-ID: >I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think >whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot of >people. It is clearly a Dave Brock solo venture, as I beleive only one track >(Spacebrock) actually has any real band playing. For sure the worst thing >Dave has ever put out. I enjoy a few tracks but it really has the feel that >someone (I woudl guess Dave) went around and just picked up whatever tracks >were laying around and slapped them together. There is no cohesiviness in >the project and it mostly just sound pieces with samples and some vocals, >but not really all the interesting.. I really liked all the other Brock solo >lps but this just does not do it for me. > >I really see the end of Hawkwind...... now......sure they will play some >great gigs but the last real HW cd was in 1994 with ALien 4....Distant >Horizons was just several disjointed musical pieces slung together for the >masses... Don't you think.. > >I am enjoying the Wierd cds a lot but am disappointed we did not get >anything new with them at all. Sound is also not really any better than the >best copies of the tapes I have heard. > >Just some ranting to annoy the masses.. > >scott > >ObCD- Gas Giant vs. WE- Riding the Red Horse to the Last Stronghold of the >Freaks (promo CD- due out in may on Burnt Hippie Recordings) I think that is a pretty well thought out and accurate analysis to be honest. mel From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Wed Apr 25 05:01:28 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:01:28 +0200 Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Melvyn Vincent [mailto:mel at MVA.U-NET.COM] Sent: 25. april 2001 11:02 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: spacebrock comments >I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think >whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot of >people. It is clearly a Dave Brock solo venture, as I beleive only one track >(Spacebrock) actually has any real band playing. For sure the worst thing >Dave has ever put out. I enjoy a few tracks but it really has the feel that >someone (I woudl guess Dave) went around and just picked up whatever tracks >were laying around and slapped them together. There is no cohesiviness in >the project and it mostly just sound pieces with samples and some vocals, >but not really all the interesting.. I really liked all the other Brock solo >lps but this just does not do it for me. > >I really see the end of Hawkwind...... now......sure they will play some >great gigs but the last real HW cd was in 1994 with ALien 4....Distant >Horizons was just several disjointed musical pieces slung together for the >masses... Don't you think.. > >I am enjoying the Wierd cds a lot but am disappointed we did not get >anything new with them at all. Sound is also not really any better than the >best copies of the tapes I have heard. > >Just some ranting to annoy the masses.. > >scott > >ObCD- Gas Giant vs. WE- Riding the Red Horse to the Last Stronghold of the >Freaks (promo CD- due out in may on Burnt Hippie Recordings) I think that is a pretty well thought out and accurate analysis to be honest. mel Thanks Mel. I am a huge fan of the band and have traveled great distances to see them, inteviewed them, supported them in many ways over the years, but I just felt I needed to speak what I feel about the recent output of the band.. scott From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Apr 25 05:24:11 2001 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 05:24:11 -0400 Subject: BOC Bonus tracks Message-ID: BLUE OYSTER CULT REISSUE BONUS TRACKS! Four classic Blue Oyster Cult albums are being re-issued June 26th. Following are the bonus tracks for each Blue Oyster Cult reissue (* denotes a previously unreleased track): Blue Oyster Cult: "Donovan's Monkey" (demo)* "What Is Quicksand?" (demo)* "A Fact About Sneakers" (demo)* "Betty Lou Got a New Pair of Shoes" (demo)* Tyranny and Mutation: "Cities on Flame (With Rock and Roll)" (live) "Buck's Boogie" (studio version)* "7 Screaming Diz-Busters" (live)* "OD'd on Life Itself" (live)* Secret Treaties: "Boorman the Chauffeur" (outtake)* "Mommy" (outtake)* "Mes Dames Sarat" (outtake)* "Born to Be Wild" (non-LP single, studio version) "Career of Evil" (single version) Agents of Fortune: "Fire of Unknown Origin" (original version, outtake)* "Sally" (demo)* "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" (demo)* "Dance the Night Away" (demo)* Stuart http://www.the-rocker.co.uk From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Apr 25 05:35:59 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:35:59 +0100 Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: Scott, Hopefully the new line-up will record something soon. It certainly has the best potential for a knockout album for the first time in a number of years !! With so many people now working with the band hopefully they'll record a cracking ablum soon. BTW -- I like the Brockspace album. And some of the tracks off of distant horizons are excellent ( phetamine in particular). regards Iain "SHLL (Scott Heller)" wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Melvyn Vincent [mailto:mel at MVA.U-NET.COM] > Sent: 25. april 2001 11:02 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: spacebrock comments > > >I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think > >whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot of > >people. It is clearly a Dave Brock solo venture, as I beleive only one > track > >(Spacebrock) actually has any real band playing. For sure the worst thing > >Dave has ever put out. I enjoy a few tracks but it really has the feel that > >someone (I woudl guess Dave) went around and just picked up whatever tracks > >were laying around and slapped them together. There is no cohesiviness in > >the project and it mostly just sound pieces with samples and some vocals, > >but not really all the interesting.. I really liked all the other Brock > solo > >lps but this just does not do it for me. > > > >I really see the end of Hawkwind...... now......sure they will play some > >great gigs but the last real HW cd was in 1994 with ALien 4....Distant > >Horizons was just several disjointed musical pieces slung together for the > >masses... Don't you think.. > > > >I am enjoying the Wierd cds a lot but am disappointed we did not get > >anything new with them at all. Sound is also not really any better than the > >best copies of the tapes I have heard. > > > >Just some ranting to annoy the masses.. > > > >scott > > > >ObCD- Gas Giant vs. WE- Riding the Red Horse to the Last Stronghold of the > >Freaks (promo CD- due out in may on Burnt Hippie Recordings) > > I think that is a pretty well thought out and accurate analysis to be > honest. > mel > > Thanks Mel. I am a huge fan of the band and have traveled great distances > to see them, inteviewed them, supported them in many ways over the years, > but I just felt I needed to speak what I feel about the recent output of the > band.. > > scott From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Wed Apr 25 05:46:30 2001 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:46:30 +0100 Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: Well, just to reiterate the fact that we often see a variety of opinions expressed on this list, I have to say that I completely disagree! This is my absolute favourite Dave Brock solo album. I do find the decision to label it as a Hawkwind CD highly dubious, however. Dave >>I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think >>whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot of >>people. It is clearly a Dave Brock solo venture, as I beleive only one track >>(Spacebrock) actually has any real band playing. For sure the worst thing >>Dave has ever put out. I enjoy a few tracks but it really has the feel that >>someone (I woudl guess Dave) went around and just picked up whatever tracks >>were laying around and slapped them together. There is no cohesiviness in >>the project and it mostly just sound pieces with samples and some vocals, >>but not really all the interesting.. I really liked all the other Brock solo >>lps but this just does not do it for me. >I think that is a pretty well thought out and accurate analysis to be honest. >mel From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Apr 25 06:13:02 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:43:02 +0930 Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: I would like to hope that Dave & the boys have some more creative spark left to spare and that when it happens it will be glorious. Look at their acchievements - (I know I don't have to say it) - but such a brilliant collection of utterly mind blowing music for all these years and still going. I say the end is never nigh....... Peace ----- Original Message ----- From: SHLL (Scott Heller) To: Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 6:13 PM Subject: spacebrock comments > I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think > whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot of > people. It is clearly a Dave Brock solo venture, as I beleive only one track > (Spacebrock) actually has any real band playing. For sure the worst thing > Dave has ever put out. I enjoy a few tracks but it really has the feel that > someone (I woudl guess Dave) went around and just picked up whatever tracks > were laying around and slapped them together. There is no cohesiviness in > the project and it mostly just sound pieces with samples and some vocals, > but not really all the interesting.. I really liked all the other Brock solo > lps but this just does not do it for me. > > I really see the end of Hawkwind...... now......sure they will play some > great gigs but the last real HW cd was in 1994 with ALien 4....Distant > Horizons was just several disjointed musical pieces slung together for the > masses... Don't you think.. > > I am enjoying the Wierd cds a lot but am disappointed we did not get > anything new with them at all. Sound is also not really any better than the > best copies of the tapes I have heard. > > Just some ranting to annoy the masses.. > > scott > > ObCD- Gas Giant vs. WE- Riding the Red Horse to the Last Stronghold of the > Freaks (promo CD- due out in may on Burnt Hippie Recordings) > From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Apr 25 09:07:10 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 09:07:10 -0400 Subject: BOC Bonus tracks In-Reply-To: <200104250924.FAA09743@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Stuart Hamilton wrote: > Four classic Blue Oyster Cult albums are being re-issued June 26th. Whoa...I hope that's the European release date and not a pushed-back general release. According to http://www.blueoystercult.com they're supposed to come out May 1! If the band had anything control over the remasters, I would think they'd push it back so as to not detract from the sales of the new album. But as far as I know, it's SONY's decision alone. > Secret Treaties: > > "Boorman the Chauffeur" (outtake)* > "Mommy" (outtake)* > "Mes Dames Sarat" (outtake)* Really looking forward to these. Has anyone here heard these before at the "Museum of Cult"? > Agents of Fortune: > > "Fire of Unknown Origin" (original version, outtake)* > "Sally" (demo)* Ditto these! Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Wed Apr 25 09:06:57 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:06:57 -0500 Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: I have no desire to be a naysayer, but I tend to agree with what you're saying about the Spacebrock CD. As Dave's solo albums go, I think this is the weakest one. It has so much recycled material first of all... Lifeform is 27 years old... and another reissue of Assassination (which has appeared several times previously)... even "You Burn Me Up" was previously issued on the Elf and the Hawk album. Certainly it was very questionable to market this as a Hawkwind album... I don't know what all the issues involved may have been (perhaps contractual deadlines, and the simple need to sell more copies), but as has been pointed out endlessly, it's obviously a Brock solo album and should be considered as such. Since it's more of a "side project" kind of a thing, I tend to go a little easier on evaluating it, but I still think it's fairly weak... more in the nature of just doodling... some sequencer tracks running as a background with some various words and other bits added here and there.... I think it sounds pretty uninspired, I guess. I have the utmost virtually religious respect for the Hawkwind camp, but the truth of the matter is that a release like this makes me fear that the band has run its course and will never again have any "new" material. But of course it would be easy to be mistaken... there have been points in the past where the future of Hawkwind was looking bleak and then they suddenly rose again, stronger than ever. Although I am sure that the live shows will continue to be exciting, I think the real future of any band is in its continued creative output, and in recent years Hawkwind has slowed considerably in this area. I would love to see a new studio album coming out soon, and really this has been the first time in the band's history where several years have passed without a new one (and without even any rumors of one), and so naturally this gives me cause for concern. On a brighter note, the Family Tree CD is brilliant... this is the best album Hawkwind never released! ;-) It's chock full of great tracks that are both extremely psychedelic and rocking! If anyone has passed up buying this one, I can't recommend it more! xoxo, John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think > whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot of > people. It is clearly a Dave Brock solo venture, as I beleive only one track > (Spacebrock) actually has any real band playing. For sure the worst thing > Dave has ever put out. I enjoy a few tracks but it really has the feel that > someone (I woudl guess Dave) went around and just picked up whatever tracks > were laying around and slapped them together. There is no cohesiviness in > the project and it mostly just sound pieces with samples and some vocals, > but not really all the interesting.. I really liked all the other Brock solo > lps but this just does not do it for me. > > I really see the end of Hawkwind...... now......sure they will play some > great gigs but the last real HW cd was in 1994 with ALien 4....Distant > Horizons was just several disjointed musical pieces slung together for the > masses... Don't you think.. > > I am enjoying the Wierd cds a lot but am disappointed we did not get > anything new with them at all. Sound is also not really any better than the > best copies of the tapes I have heard. > > Just some ranting to annoy the masses.. > > scott > > ObCD- Gas Giant vs. WE- Riding the Red Horse to the Last Stronghold of the > Freaks (promo CD- due out in may on Burnt Hippie Recordings) > From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Wed Apr 25 14:24:32 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:24:32 -0400 Subject: spacebrock comments In-Reply-To: <3AE69A7F.8BF76C21@aol.com> Message-ID: Good comments. I was undecided on whether to get this CD, I now don't think I'll bother. I would actually be a bit more severe than Scott and say that apart from odd tracks and some good live performances (Hawkestra, Astoria), the last good lump of material in my view was Chronicles fifteen odd years ago. Anything earlier than that I loved with the possible exceptions of Sonic Attack '81 and some of ASAM '76, although the live recordings of this performance are some of my favourites, probably due to Calvert being the frontman. Thanks for the feedback, Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of iain ferguson Sent: 25 April 2001 05:36 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: spacebrock comments Scott, Hopefully the new line-up will record something soon. It certainly has the best potential for a knockout album for the first time in a number of years !! With so many people now working with the band hopefully they'll record a cracking ablum soon. BTW -- I like the Brockspace album. And some of the tracks off of distant horizons are excellent ( phetamine in particular). regards Iain "SHLL (Scott Heller)" wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Melvyn Vincent [mailto:mel at MVA.U-NET.COM] > Sent: 25. april 2001 11:02 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: spacebrock comments > > >I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think > >whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot of > >people. It is clearly a Dave Brock solo venture, as I beleive only one > track > >(Spacebrock) actually has any real band playing. For sure the worst thing > >Dave has ever put out. I enjoy a few tracks but it really has the feel that > >someone (I woudl guess Dave) went around and just picked up whatever tracks > >were laying around and slapped them together. There is no cohesiviness in > >the project and it mostly just sound pieces with samples and some vocals, > >but not really all the interesting.. I really liked all the other Brock > solo > >lps but this just does not do it for me. > > > >I really see the end of Hawkwind...... now......sure they will play some > >great gigs but the last real HW cd was in 1994 with ALien 4....Distant > >Horizons was just several disjointed musical pieces slung together for the > >masses... Don't you think.. > > > >I am enjoying the Wierd cds a lot but am disappointed we did not get > >anything new with them at all. Sound is also not really any better than the > >best copies of the tapes I have heard. > > > >Just some ranting to annoy the masses.. > > > >scott > > > >ObCD- Gas Giant vs. WE- Riding the Red Horse to the Last Stronghold of the > >Freaks (promo CD- due out in may on Burnt Hippie Recordings) > > I think that is a pretty well thought out and accurate analysis to be > honest. > mel > > Thanks Mel. I am a huge fan of the band and have traveled great distances > to see them, inteviewed them, supported them in many ways over the years, > but I just felt I needed to speak what I feel about the recent output of the > band.. > > scott From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Apr 25 10:04:35 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:04:35 +0100 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: Anyone who thinks that Hawkwind have nothing left should hear the new track played on the last tour. "Elimental Mind" (world of lies)? is outstanding, and really give Ron's talents a chance to shine. Dont loose faith! Gary & Anna From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Apr 25 10:24:27 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:24:27 -0400 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:04:35 +0100, Cerberus wrote: >Anyone who thinks that Hawkwind have nothing left should hear the new track played on the last tour. "Elimental Mind" (world of lies)? is outstanding, and really give Ron's talents a chance to shine. > >Dont loose faith! > >Gary & Anna Agreed, it's a fine track, but it's not brand new- it's on "In Your Area", title is 'Hippy' (though Elemental Mind would have been much a better title!) They did play something new that sounded pretty good though... From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Apr 25 10:34:18 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:34:18 -0400 Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:24:32 -0400, ejobson wrote: >Good comments. I was undecided on whether to get this CD, I now don't think >I'll bother. Well, I have to put in a word in its favour. I quite liked it initially, and it's grown on me ever since. Whilst I agree in principle with the comments made- particularly as regards recycling old material- the fact is whenever I play it I find new things to enjoy. There's a lot going on amidst the electronic noodling. NOT a Hawkwind album though, definitely a DB solo. Nevertheless I'd say it's the best studio album since Tepee, though perhaps that isn't saying too much.. (Business Of The Future- some great stuff, some crap... Alien 4- OK, not as good as I hoped after reading all the positive reviews... Distant Horizons- some good tracks but the whole thing sounds unfinished somehow). In Your Area I like, but mainly for the live stuff (and 'Hippy' of course). Still hoping for a new studio with Simon and Alan involved though. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Apr 25 11:09:44 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:09:44 +0800 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: Cerberus wrote: Anyone who thinks that Hawkwind have nothing left should hear the new track played on the last tour. "Elimental Mind" (world of lies)? is outstanding, and really give Ron's talents a chance to shine. Dont loose faith! Yeah, I agree. When we had the chat session with the boys they did state that they had new material, but couldn't find a recording contract. Besides, the Hawks will finish up when Dave Brock says they are and not before. As for the album Spacebrock I'm still waiting for the bloody thing to arrive, so I can't comment. Should have ordered it through Andy G. and it would have been here by now. But no - I had to give the job to the local boys. "Its coming," they say. Yeah by f**king sailing ship... Bill From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Wed Apr 25 11:17:07 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:17:07 -0500 Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: Actually I'm listening again to Spacebrock right now, and perhaps I was a little too harsh on it. Considered in the proper context (i.e. as a Dave Brock solo album and not as a Hawkwind album), this isn't really so bad. Most of the tracks have more of a techno feel than we've previously heard from Dr. Technical, but heck... it's a solo album! Undoubtedly the man would like to stretch out a bit into some other musical areas every now and again... I certainly can't fault him for that. I favor experimentation even when the results aren't necessarily the best. Actually I've liked most of the real Hawkwind releases after Live Chronicles... as I've said repeatedly, Palace Springs might be my overall favorite Hawk album... and In Your Area, for example, I thought was fantastically psychedelic... although it's hard to get overly excited since it is one half live, and some of the "new" studio tracks were really just recycled bits again. I still have faith in Hawkwind, despite some comments I've made... they've always surprised me. xoxo, John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Good comments. I was undecided on whether to get this CD, I now don't think > I'll bother. I would actually be a bit more severe than Scott and say that > apart from odd tracks and some good live performances (Hawkestra, Astoria), > the last good lump of material in my view was Chronicles fifteen odd years > ago. Anything earlier than that I loved with the possible exceptions of > Sonic Attack '81 and some of ASAM '76, although the live recordings of this > performance are some of my favourites, probably due to Calvert being the > frontman. > > Thanks for the feedback, > > Eddie. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of iain ferguson > Sent: 25 April 2001 05:36 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: spacebrock comments > > > Scott, > > Hopefully the new line-up will record something soon. It certainly has the > best > potential for a knockout album for the first time in a number of years !! > > With so many people now working with the band hopefully they'll record a > cracking ablum soon. > > BTW -- I like the Brockspace album. And some of the tracks off of distant > horizons are excellent ( phetamine in particular). > > regards > Iain > > "SHLL (Scott Heller)" wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Melvyn Vincent [mailto:mel at MVA.U-NET.COM] > > Sent: 25. april 2001 11:02 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: spacebrock comments > > > > >I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think > > >whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot > of > > >people. It is clearly a Dave Brock solo venture, as I beleive only one > > track > > >(Spacebrock) actually has any real band playing. For sure the worst thing > > >Dave has ever put out. I enjoy a few tracks but it really has the feel > that > > >someone (I woudl guess Dave) went around and just picked up whatever > tracks > > >were laying around and slapped them together. There is no cohesiviness in > > >the project and it mostly just sound pieces with samples and some vocals, > > >but not really all the interesting.. I really liked all the other Brock > > solo > > >lps but this just does not do it for me. > > > > > >I really see the end of Hawkwind...... now......sure they will play some > > >great gigs but the last real HW cd was in 1994 with ALien 4....Distant > > >Horizons was just several disjointed musical pieces slung together for > the > > >masses... Don't you think.. > > > > > >I am enjoying the Wierd cds a lot but am disappointed we did not get > > >anything new with them at all. Sound is also not really any better than > the > > >best copies of the tapes I have heard. > > > > > >Just some ranting to annoy the masses.. > > > > > >scott > > > > > >ObCD- Gas Giant vs. WE- Riding the Red Horse to the Last Stronghold of > the > > >Freaks (promo CD- due out in may on Burnt Hippie Recordings) > > > > I think that is a pretty well thought out and accurate analysis to be > > honest. > > mel > > > > Thanks Mel. I am a huge fan of the band and have traveled great distances > > to see them, inteviewed them, supported them in many ways over the years, > > but I just felt I needed to speak what I feel about the recent output of > the > > band.. > > > > scott > From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 25 11:16:42 2001 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:16:42 EDT Subject: BOC Bonus tracks Message-ID: In a message dated 04/25/2001 8:04:15 AM Central Daylight Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > > I heard this one at Bolle's in 95. I think Albert was singing it. (Where is he, anyway?) Fuzzy recollection here, but it seemed much more sedate that the FOUO version... From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Apr 25 11:47:07 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:47:07 +0800 Subject: Hawkestra Message-ID: I'm in West Australia, & have a burner, which is temporarily out of action. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Hawkestra > How about a list of those with burner technology? > > (1) Michael B {Australia} > > (2) > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Apr 25 12:06:00 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:06:00 +0800 Subject: Hawkestra Message-ID: William Duffy wrote" > I'm in West Australia, & have a burner, which is temporarily out of action. > I'm West Aussie too and have cd burner. Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 12:49 PM > Subject: Re: Hawkestra > > > > How about a list of those with burner technology? > > > > (1) Michael B {Australia} > > > > (2) > > > From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Apr 25 13:29:59 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:29:59 +0100 Subject: HW: irc channel Message-ID: I drop into the IRC channel every now and then, but there's rarely anyone there (hello Arin, Colm and Alissa, the occasional exceptions). But I'm a bit mystified by something- wonder if Rik or anyone else can explain: Sometimes when joining the channel there's a message that says "Welcome To Mission Control- Operated by Chanserv", or words to that effect. And sometimes there isn't. Now, I know very little about IRC, but my impression is that the channel may not be working properly when this message isn't displayed. Is this right? or doesn't it matter? -- Nick Medford From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Apr 25 12:47:15 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 12:47:15 -0400 Subject: HW: thanks BoCL/Distant Hurryandbuyzons Message-ID: mc hammers... >dear good folks out there.. >thank to those of you who have been so kind,,,,,,,you know yourselves.... > >on that theme.... > >I Farfling this....... > > Distant Horizons is about to "go under"..."out of print"...... I still have a spare copy to offer to those here in the US (mainly)...$9 ppd will claim it. Let's see, I also got a spare copy of Hawklords Live last month. $7 ppd or $15 for both. And a Cleopatra Freq as well I think. Same deal. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Jerry Kranitz' copy of Farflung '25k' is like Chuck's with the offset tracking, FWIW. From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Apr 25 14:18:19 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:18:19 -0400 Subject: Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect live at the Carlisle Stars & Stripes November 3 1986: Message-ID: Hi all Please reply to corwyn at nycap.rr.com for this email. The Lounge Axe project has been launched (Monday) and the first recipients should be getting their CD's in the very near future. Because I originally launched the Lounge Axe from BOC-L and Yahoo I will post this here as well. This I promise will be my last post to either group regarding Trees and the such. Please join Bryan's Prog_Cdr group. Now for my second act. Thanks to Bob Pederson (hope I spelled that properly) I have a copy of the show below that was mastered from the tape. Not decoded from MP3's. It is the same version on the ICU site and in no way takes away from the WONDERFUL job of having it posted. Just not everyone has a burner and a high speed connection. http://208.50.7.128/icu/calvert.html or http://www.innercityunit.com/ and click on Calvert. For those of you with High Speed connections and burners this may not be of interest but I am gathering names of people who do and do not have burners for this tree. Here is the set it is high quality. Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect live at the Carlisle Stars & Stripes November 3 1986: 1. Orgone Accumulator 2. Lord of the Hornets 3. Teen Ballad of Dino 4. Quark Strangeness & Charm 5. Radio Egypt 6. Diamond Mine 7. Days of the Underground 8. Ned Ludd 9. Acid Rain 10. Work Song 11. Online 12. Damnation Alley 13. All The Machines Are Quiet 14. Telekinesis 15. Picket Line 16. Robot 17. Test Tube Conceived Please include the following Name Address Country EMAIL address Do you have a CD Burner Are you willing to be a "branch" If so what is the Max number of leaves. Please include this the first time so I don't have to chase you down later for the info ;-0 Ok that is all. Mike in Troy NY. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Apr 25 14:15:50 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:15:50 +0100 Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: It may be your favourite so treaure it because, just like 'Weird 6', it is now out of print at Voiceprint - as usual, no idea if and when it will be back in print. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bottomley" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: Re: spacebrock comments > Well, just to reiterate the fact that we often see a variety of opinions > expressed on this list, I have to say that I completely disagree! This is my > absolute favourite Dave Brock solo album. I do find the decision to label it > as a Hawkwind CD highly dubious, however. > > Dave > > >>I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think > >>whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot of > >>people. It is clearly a Dave Brock solo venture, as I beleive only one > track > >>(Spacebrock) actually has any real band playing. For sure the worst thing > >>Dave has ever put out. I enjoy a few tracks but it really has the feel > that > >>someone (I woudl guess Dave) went around and just picked up whatever > tracks > >>were laying around and slapped them together. There is no cohesiviness in > >>the project and it mostly just sound pieces with samples and some vocals, > >>but not really all the interesting.. I really liked all the other Brock > solo > >>lps but this just does not do it for me. > > >I think that is a pretty well thought out and accurate analysis to be > honest. > >mel From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Apr 25 14:34:21 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:34:21 +0100 Subject: thanks BoCL/Distant Hurryandbuyzons Message-ID: consider it done as part of what we owe you Michael - will go out with the '82 double thing OK. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 6:03 AM Subject: Re: thanks BoCL/Distant Hurryandbuyzons > I would like one of those > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Winged Rat > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: thanks BoCL/Distant Hurryandbuyzons > > > > dear good folks out there.. > > thank to those of you who have been so kind,,,,,,,you know yourselves.... > > > > on that theme.... > > > > I Farfling this....... > > > > Distant Horizons is about to "go under"..."out of print"...... > > > > Andy Garibaldi is about to score 8 copies...... > > > > there you have it...... > > > > spacematicbabyoblue From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Apr 25 14:48:19 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:48:19 +0100 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: yes - you should have (see message just posted) - start scouring or get Mikey Coleman to find one - the Hawkwind fan's equivalent of a ferret (no offence Mike!!!) Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 4:09 PM Subject: Re: spacebrock > Cerberus wrote: > Anyone who thinks that Hawkwind have nothing left should hear the new track > played on the last tour. "Elimental Mind" (world of lies)? is outstanding, > and really give Ron's talents a chance to shine. > > Dont loose faith! > > Yeah, I agree. When we had the chat session with the boys they did state > that they had new material, but couldn't find a recording contract. > Besides, the Hawks will finish up when Dave Brock says they are and not > before. > > As for the album Spacebrock I'm still waiting for the bloody thing to > arrive, so I can't comment. Should have ordered it through Andy G. and it > would have been here by now. But no - I had to give the job to the local > boys. "Its coming," they say. Yeah by f**king sailing ship... > > Bill From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Apr 25 14:34:59 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:34:59 -0400 Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: I agree that it is not really a HW album, and for me it would be better if similar material were released under the 'Psychedelic Warrior' pseudonym. That is my only criticism of the album - I like it, especially the track called 'Behind the face' - wonderfully eccentric! I'm also more optimistic than Scott, with a strong current line up and interest from William Orbit, surely a classic new album can't be too far off. Mick > I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think >whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot of >people. It is clearly a Dave Brock solo venture, as I beleive only one track >(Spacebrock) actually has any real band playing. For sure the worst thing >Dave has ever put out. I enjoy a few tracks but it really has the feel that >someone (I woudl guess Dave) went around and just picked up whatever tracks >were laying around and slapped them together. There is no cohesiviness in >the project and it mostly just sound pieces with samples and some vocals, >but not really all the interesting.. I really liked all the other Brock solo >lps but this just does not do it for me. > >I really see the end of Hawkwind...... now......sure they will play some >great gigs but the last real HW cd was in 1994 with ALien 4....Distant >Horizons was just several disjointed musical pieces slung together for the >masses... Don't you think.. > >I am enjoying the Wierd cds a lot but am disappointed we did not get >anything new with them at all. Sound is also not really any better than the >best copies of the tapes I have heard. > >Just some ranting to annoy the masses.. > >scott > >ObCD- Gas Giant vs. WE- Riding the Red Horse to the Last Stronghold of the >Freaks (promo CD- due out in may on Burnt Hippie Recordings) May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 25 14:35:10 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:35:10 -0400 Subject: Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect live at the Carlisle Stars & Stripes November 3 1986: Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:18:19 -0400, Michael S. Habiby wrote: >Now for my second act. Thanks to Bob Pederson (hope I spelled that >properly) Is that supposed to be me? ;^) >I have a copy of the show below that was mastered from the >tape. Not decoded from MP3's. It is the same version on the ICU site >and in no way takes away from the WONDERFUL job of having it posted. >Just not everyone has a burner and a high speed connection. >http://208.50.7.128/icu/calvert.html or http://www.innercityunit.com/ >and click on Calvert. > >Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect live at the Carlisle Stars & Stripes >November 3 1986: [snip] I just wanted to add that this is an EXCELLENT set. The sound quality is very good, perhaps a tad below the 'Queen Elizabeth Hall' album, but very close. And the performance is superb - much better than QE Hall, since the band had been playing together on tour for a few weeks by this time. And, as an added bonus, it has nice cover/insert graphics & liner notes by Steve Pond (which I have the graphics files for). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Apr 25 14:45:55 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:45:55 -0400 Subject: Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect live at the Carlisle Message-ID: Douglas Pearson wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:18:19 -0400, Michael S. Habiby > wrote: > >> Now for my second act. Thanks to Bob Pederson (hope I spelled that >> properly) > > > Is that supposed to be me? ;^) > I KNEW I should have waited till I got home to send that email.. YES... Doug. A million apologies. Many apologies.... AND I noticed I mistated Bryan's group wrong on Yahoo as well. It is Neo Quark. Prog_CDR is a good one too but not Bryan's Soooo batting 1.000 in Upstate NY.. I sign off Mike in Troy. _____________ "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Apr 25 16:49:35 2001 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:49:35 +0100 Subject: Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect live at the Carlisle Stars & Stripes November 3 1986: Message-ID: Fantastic some Calvert stuff from my home town. :-) I went to that club when I was 16, it was demolished last year What I want to know is did Hawkwind ever play in Carlisle? If so When and where? andare there any live tapes? Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Pearson" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 7:35 PM Subject: Re: Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect live at the Carlisle Stars & Stripes November 3 1986: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:18:19 -0400, Michael S. Habiby > wrote: > >Now for my second act. Thanks to Bob Pederson (hope I spelled that > >properly) > > Is that supposed to be me? ;^) > > >I have a copy of the show below that was mastered from the > >tape. Not decoded from MP3's. It is the same version on the ICU site > >and in no way takes away from the WONDERFUL job of having it posted. > >Just not everyone has a burner and a high speed connection. > >http://208.50.7.128/icu/calvert.html or http://www.innercityunit.com/ > >and click on Calvert. > > > >Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect live at the Carlisle Stars & Stripes > >November 3 1986: > > [snip] > > I just wanted to add that this is an EXCELLENT set. The sound quality is > very good, perhaps a tad below the 'Queen Elizabeth Hall' album, but very > close. And the performance is superb - much better than QE Hall, since the > band had been playing together on tour for a few weeks by this time. > > And, as an added bonus, it has nice cover/insert graphics & liner notes by > Steve Pond (which I have the graphics files for). > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Apr 25 16:58:15 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:58:15 -0400 Subject: Robert Calvert @ the Carlisle In-Reply-To: <002a01c0cdc9$3cbcca60$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: At 21:49 4.25.01 +0100, you wrote: >Fantastic some Calvert stuff from my home town. :-) I went to that club when >I was 16, it was demolished last year It is a shame... I remember walking by that place as a wee lad visiting my grandma. Same too is that the vinyl show on botchergate is shut up due to the attempt to retool the street w/ Woodrow Wilson (a"pub") et. al. I wish i was abroad when Paul weller had played the sands centre. But such is being in NY state. Q: Are they using the castle as a homebase in the foot and mouth battle plan? urban guerilla, Jason From Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Apr 25 18:50:01 2001 From: Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:50:01 +0100 Subject: Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect live at the Carlisle Stars & Stripes November 3 1986: In-Reply-To: <002a01c0cdc9$3cbcca60$05acacac@t1> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Rich Warren > Sent: 25 April 2001 21:50 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect live at the Carlisle > Stars & Stripes November 3 1986: > > > Fantastic some Calvert stuff from my home town. :-) I went to > that club when > I was 16, it was demolished last year > > What I want to know is did Hawkwind ever play in Carlisle? If so When and > where? andare there any live tapes? > > Rich W >Hello Everybody As far as I recollect I believe Hawkwind played Carlisle Market Hall in 1977 unfortunately I could not get there. I do remeber seeing Nik with ICU at the stars and Stripes as well as various other bands such as Wolfsbane, The Macc lads and Satan (that is a band not the uberdemon) and probably a few more I have forgotten ah nostalgia Brian > From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Apr 25 19:43:37 2001 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:43:37 EDT Subject: spacebrock comments Message-ID: In a message dated 4/25/2001 4:45:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, shll at NOVONORDISK.COM writes: << I really see the end of Hawkwind.. >> Ive been sayin the same thing since 1974. Cheer up Scott, the best is yet to come! Bill From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 25 20:05:42 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:05:42 +0100 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Kirsten Procter wrote: > Dave Brock > (well, duh) > Simon House > Me (random low-end brass. This *is* fantasy, remember?) It would certainly add something... > Bill Ward (*why* not? See, you can;t think of a reason. That's not a > good enough reason[2]) Because he's famous for not being able to keep time? Indeed, has made a career of it? And because Simon King is a better drummer? > Ron Tree (vocals only, please) Missed out a fourth bass player there for no good reason surely :-) > Bob Calvert (think of the duets!) Bob sharing a stage with Ron... It could get messy. > Lemmy > Adrian Shaw > Alan Davey (what d;you mean, we don;t need three bass players?) No really, we don't. Lemmy and Alan possibly. That's worked once. But Adrian plays a different, lighter-fingered style, and I think they'd clash badly. > Tim Blake And Del, and Harvey, and Keith. In fact maybe not Tim if we've got those three. > [1] Hey, Benedict is only 2, you can't expect him to always be > reasonable. Hey, I'm only 25, you can't expect... Oh hang on. Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 25 20:11:04 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:11:04 +0100 Subject: Farflung In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Blank Space wrote: > Does anyone have an electric line to some stashed FARFLUNG stuff for a > person who sinned in not getting it all???........ Mike, I have two copies of _Belief Module_, but one of them is bust. I was going to burn a copy of the good one to stash in the dead one's box (hell, the dead one might still play in a really good machine, it's split clean across one radius but the data's all there as far as I can tell because it still scans from track to track) if anyone offered me anything suitably precious for the good one. It was going to be On Trial's _70 Kilometers of Underwater Nothingness Kaptain!_ but Scott Heller weaselly got himself a copy of _Belief Module_ by other means. So, if you'd be interested, my question is, would you trade the Griffin issue of _Astounding Sounds_ with the B-side bonus tracks for it? This being top of my can't-find-it list. If not, what would you trade for it? Yours, Jon ObCD-R: Lotus - _Fruitage_ -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From christmu at EUNET.NO Wed Apr 25 21:14:42 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 03:14:42 +0200 Subject: OFF: Crowley deck Message-ID: Anyone know where I can order the Crowley Tarot deck per cash or cheque? Can't use credit cards otherwise I'd get it from Amazon or somewhere. Chr. ObCD: Suicide - Suicide From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Apr 25 22:07:57 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:07:57 -0700 Subject: HW: Lounge Axe and TotalRock CD-R covers Message-ID: Try this page; hopefully it'll last this time! http://www.geocities.com/flighttube/ KevinSommers From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Apr 26 00:32:33 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Coleman) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:32:33 -0600 Subject: (OFF) spacebrock (humor)? In-Reply-To: <012c01c0cdb8$4c816980$9f16bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Andy G said: "yes - you should have (see message just posted) - start scouring or get Mikey Coleman to find one - the Hawkwind fan's equivalent of a ferret (no offence Mike!!!)" there is that old saying.."any publicity is good publicity"...although I guess I don't deserve it anymore....I grow fat with inaction, complacency mode must die... 'whathappend'? anyway..I would always be VERY PLEASED to direct anyone into HW to an appropriate outlet, that can get their but moving quickly to fix you up right...(so long as Andy OK's it)...... and Ande....there was just a section of the news about a lady who is "ferret lady", and takes in discarded, naughty tempered Ferrets.... they are quite cute, loveable little thingamajigs, and they run all over her house, to-and-fro.... only one problem...... they are quite sneaky, fast, pesky little torpedos, and you can't catch them... if they don't wish to be caught... ?????? From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 00:55:58 2001 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 05:55:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Crowley deck Message-ID: I've got it as good as new!! Also most of his books never read mint What can you swap for them? Ben "christmu at eunet.no" wrote: > Anyone know where I can order the Crowley Tarot deck per cash or cheque? > Can't use credit cards otherwise I'd get it from Amazon or somewhere. > Chr. > > ObCD: Suicide - Suicide From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 01:01:21 2001 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 06:01:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Dave & Kris Message-ID: Please add me to this tree - Thanks Bryan Young wrote: > Yes! I've bought every official Hawkwind item (often several times -- > vinyl, cd, and even a couple cassettes), and I'd love loads more! (Actually > I still need to get a passport & album, but not sure if they're still > available, or how I'd manage that from over here in Canada.) > > The past few years have been great, what with all the Weird Tapes, and the > EMI remasters, etc. Here's to many more years and many more amazing albums! > The recent Spacebrock & Family Tree are great, too! > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael W Blackman > To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu > Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:45 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Dave & Kris > > >PS - Dave & Kris > > > >Please release an official HAWKESTRA so I can purchase it as we all will > > > >Michael B > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Keith Barton > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:46 PM > >Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway > > > > > >> Michael W Blackman wrote: > >> > >> > Me too -= I'd love to hear this as well > >> > >> Me three... > >> > >> Keef > >> > >> -- > >> Technical Guru Phone:0207 973 4000 > >> Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 > >> 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 > >> London W1D 3BP mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk > >> +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ > >> From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 01:26:46 2001 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 06:26:46 +0100 Subject: HW: IRC Channel Message-ID: Where is this please? Cheers Ben From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Apr 26 04:15:55 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:45:55 +0930 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: Andy G certainly delivers - and is fast too! > As for the album Spacebrock I'm still waiting for the bloody thing to > arrive, so I can't comment. Should have ordered it through Andy G. and it > would have been here by now. But no - I had to give the job to the local > boys. "Its coming," they say. Yeah by f**king sailing ship... > > Bill > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Apr 26 04:34:36 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:04:36 +0930 Subject: thanks BoCL/Distant Hurryandbuyzons Message-ID: Thanks Good Sir Andy G Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 4:04 AM Subject: Re: thanks BoCL/Distant Hurryandbuyzons > consider it done as part of what we owe you Michael - will go out with the > '82 double thing OK. > Andy G. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 26 04:54:23 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:54:23 +0800 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: Michael W Blackman > Andy G certainly delivers - and is fast too! I hang my head in shame.... Bill From nick at NETPHD.NET Thu Apr 26 07:25:57 2001 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:25:57 -0400 Subject: BOC: New cover art Message-ID: I love the new cover art for Curse of the Hidden Mirror. I have only one problem with it, though. . . It's making me expect much more, musically, from the album than I did with Heaven Forbid. One can only hope. . . --Nick From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Apr 26 07:26:55 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:26:55 EDT Subject: OFF: Bill Ward In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 26 Apr 2001, at 1:05, Jon Jarrett wrote: > > Bill Ward (*why* not? See, you can;t think of a reason. That's not a > > good enough reason[2]) > > Because he's famous for not being able to keep time? Indeed, > has > made a career of it? And because Simon King is a better drummer? > Did anyone read a great interview in Guitar World several years ago with Tony Iommi on the cover? Tony talked about the early days of Sabbath, and Tony was a prankster/bully. Apparently he picked on Bill Ward mercilously. One time, while Ward was sleeping, Tony poured lighter fluid on him and set him on fire! I guess Bill got pretty seriously burned, and his mother called up Tony screaming: '...Well, you've done it now...our Bill's going to have his arm off!' Needless to say, Bill recovered... Tony also joked about Bill bringing only one pair of pants on tour! And generally what a slob Bill was. Great, great interview. Tony said that he and Ozzy were in rival gangs before Sabbath formed, and that he used to beat the shit out of Ozzy whenever he ran into him! Helluva guy... theo > > Ron Tree (vocals only, please) > > Missed out a fourth bass player there for no good reason > surely > :-) > > > Bob Calvert (think of the duets!) > > Bob sharing a stage with Ron... It could get messy. > > > Lemmy > > Adrian Shaw > > Alan Davey (what d;you mean, we don;t need three bass players?) > > No really, we don't. Lemmy and Alan possibly. That's worked > once. But Adrian plays a different, lighter-fingered style, and I > think they'd clash badly. > > > Tim Blake > > And Del, and Harvey, and Keith. In fact maybe not Tim if we've > got those three. > > > [1] Hey, Benedict is only 2, you can't expect him to always be > > reasonable. > > Hey, I'm only 25, you can't expect... Oh hang on. Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > =================================================================== > == > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen > know" From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 07:37:47 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:37:47 +0100 Subject: HW: IRC Channel In-Reply-To: <3AE7B196.6C38488E@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: In message <3AE7B196.6C38488E at netscapeonline.co.uk>, linuxchaos writes >Where is this please? #hawkwind.org.uk on DALnet -- Nick Medford From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Apr 26 08:20:48 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:20:48 EDT Subject: BOC: New cover art In-Reply-To: <200104261125.HAA04246@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: On 26 Apr 2001, at 7:25, Nick English wrote: > I love the new cover art for Curse of the Hidden > Mirror. I have only one problem with it, though. . . > It's making me expect much more, musically, from the > album than I did with Heaven Forbid. One can only > hope. . . I agree. the cover is great, much better than HF, and reminiscent of the old days. Will the music do it justice? Hard to say. I did find it interesting that EB contributed more songs than BD, which has got to be a first. I wonder who wrote the lyrics? I presume Shirley had a hand in it, esp. on the BD tunes. Anyone know if anyone wrote lyrics for EB? I presume that BD produced, and I hope he's polished the arrangements a bit. I found some of the tunes on HF to suffer from a formulaic production--too much repetition on some of the choruses... theo From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 09:40:31 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:40:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Dave & Kris In-Reply-To: <3AE7ABA1.5B57771@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <3AE7ABA1.5B57771 at netscapeonline.co.uk>, linuxchaos writes >Please add me to this tree - Thanks Me too please, now that I've got my new puter (With burner) working. -- David Blair From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Apr 26 09:55:51 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:55:51 -0400 Subject: BOC: (tentative) CoHM tracklist Message-ID: snagged from alt.music.blueoystercult: The tracklist for the new CD is listed on Sonicnet.com It reads as follows: 1) I just like to be bad 2) Pocket 3) Eye of the Hurricane 4) One step ahead of the Devil 5) Good to feel hungry 6) Here comes that feeling 7) Dance on stilts 8) Stone of Love 9) The old Gods return 10) Out of the darkness 11) Showtime From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Apr 26 11:01:18 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:01:18 -0500 Subject: OFF: Rock Star Name Generator Message-ID: Another fun name generator. 10 music categories! http://www.mp3.com/rockstarname You don't have to put in your actual email address - just something in email format to go on to the next page where your name will be displayed. I use yahoo at aol.com which works. Have fun! :) Karen aka "Black Ice Princess" From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Apr 26 11:39:15 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:39:15 -0500 Subject: HW: irc channel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Nick Medford wrote: :Subject: HW: irc channel : :I drop into the IRC channel every now and then, but there's rarely anyone :there (hello Arin, Colm and Alissa, the occasional exceptions). But I'm a :bit mystified by something- wonder if Rik or anyone else can explain: : :Sometimes when joining the channel there's a message that says "Welcome :To Mission Control- Operated by Chanserv", or words to that effect. And :sometimes there isn't. Now, I know very little about IRC, but my impression :is that the channel may not be working properly when this message isn't :displayed. Is this right? or doesn't it matter? I'm not an expert on dal.net stuff, but I'd imagine that you are logging in during a netsplit, and temporarily chanserv isn't "owning" the channel (due to an inability to talk to the rest of the dal.net network.) Netsplits are less common than they used to be (without, say, additional outside assistance ;-) ) so it shouldn't happen that frequently. Arin (who needs to get herself onto the chat more often :-( ) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From hw at CY-B.ORG Thu Apr 26 14:53:44 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:53:44 -0400 Subject: HW: irc channel Message-ID: Hey ! Yep Arin is right, if you join the chan and don't get the auro message either it's a netsplit, or Dalnet Chanserv services are down. Both these situations are temporary, and you can still use the channels to yak to other people, exchange files, have private chats, plan world domination, exhange knitting patterns etc... :} It would be nice to see more people using the chan regularly, as at the moment there is either loads of people or no-one in there. Maybe another band session sometime soon will encourage a few more people in there.... Details of the IRC Channel, and an edit of the Band's first online session are on Mission Control Updates Page (www.hawkwind.org.uk) Rx From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 26 15:05:38 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:05:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: Farflung gnus In-Reply-To: <200104212138.RAA08210@mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, K Henderson wrote: > New Farflung album to appear on the Falcata-Galia label in two months. > Title: When Science Fails (http://come.to/falcatagalia, see news section) Excellent! > The Myth of Solid Ground - still looking for a label to release it. They're > looking for ideas...anyone? Pity... how about Man's Ruin, Meteorcity, Southern Lord (okay, maybe not Southern Lord), Woronzow, Dead Earnest if they can get through their backlog, Burnt Hippie... But maybe *not* Delerium, hey? I think Man's Ruin would be the best bet here, failing that, what was Sleep's old label? They might do it... > New Anubian Lights album out in May, entitled Naz Bar, on the Crippled Dick > Hotwax label in Germany, with distribution by Caroline. > (http://www.crippled.com, news section says 4/27 release, and mentions > something else about a remix 12" or something) > > Also in May, a Nik Turner 2CD set "America...The Tours, the Trials, the > Basement" [with unreleased studio tracks, featuring ex-Hawks/ex-Deviants?] > Live US 1995-2000, on Transparency. That sounds *very* interesting. Although the idea that _Prophets of Time_ could have out-takes is somewhat worrying. > Tommy also appears on on both the new Chrome and Helios Creed LPs. He and Steven Wilson are level-pegging for hardest-working underground musicians as ever... Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 15:19:00 2001 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:19:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Circles Message-ID: Can someone with a better ear than mine confirm the identity of the drummer on "Circles" (Wierd 3)? I'm not sure I believe the inlay.... Steve From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Apr 26 15:24:43 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:24:43 -0400 Subject: BOC: Cover surprise Message-ID: DarylnSAT from the BOC BB pointed out that Melne has posted the new artwork at http://www.blueoystercult.com as a popup window. Click on the image for a surprise. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Apr 26 15:25:34 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:25:34 -0400 Subject: HW: Circles Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:19:00 +0100, Steve Litchfield wrote: >Can someone with a better ear than mine confirm the identity of the >drummer on "Circles" (Wierd 3)? I'm not sure I believe the inlay.... Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the track which is aka "British Tribal Music", isn't it? Which would make it an outtake from the (no Calvert?) Brock/Shaw/House/King lineup? Didn't someone mention a while back that a version with vocals exists in someone's private collection? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Apr 26 16:33:11 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Nobody) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:33:11 -0600 Subject: HW: Circles In-Reply-To: <200104261925.PAA17037@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Doug asked: "Didn't someone mention a while back that a version with vocals exists in someone's private collection?" OH MY FINGERS, THEY MUST ACHE! OH MY FINGERS THEY MUST ACHE! OH MY FINGERS THEY MUST ACHE!!!! got it? lamey (me) From spacehead at SPACESTATION.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 15:24:10 2001 From: spacehead at SPACESTATION.CO.UK (Mr. Dibs) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:24:10 -0400 Subject: spacehead website Message-ID: New Spacehead website is now up and running, www.spacehead.iwarp.com. We appreciate all comments and suggestions. Also, is there anyone out there that saw us at Leeds, and did you take any photo's, as we'd appreciate copies. Enjoyed the recent Hawkgigs immensely, nice to see a fluctuating line-up, keeps it exciting! No nostalgia with us, as long as the Captain keeps the ship flying, that's fine. May the farce be with you, Mr. D. From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Thu Apr 26 15:35:01 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:35:01 -0700 Subject: OT: Different Circles Message-ID: Seeing the topic of Circles reminded me of a quest, and I then thought that this would be a place to ask that would be extremely likely to have exactly what I'm looking for, rather than sifting billions of search hits, most of which will try to sell me something. I'm looking for images of crop circles. Just images, and lots of 'em. Why? Because they look cool! Init enough? TIA scorch From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 15:47:09 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:47:09 -0400 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: >From the Morpheus Records website: "Furthermore, there is a new, upcoming live album in the works, entitled, 2001 - A Space (Rock) Odyssey Live, featuring Nik Turner/Thomas Crimble/Huw Lloyd Langton/Terry Ollis, recorded at the Birkenhead, Merseyside, Ystalafera and South Wales gigs last year - to be released via Ozit- Morpheus/Nikt Records; limited edition available at the forthcoming Blackpool gig! This CD will contain a lavish booklet featuring many rare photos and superbly spaced-out design!" Anyone buying it? From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Apr 26 15:49:16 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:49:16 +0200 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) In-Reply-To: <200104261947.PAA17425@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: At 15:47 26.04.2001 -0400, you wrote: >>>From the Morpheus Records website: > >"Furthermore, there is a new, upcoming live album in the works, entitled, >2001 - A Space (Rock) Odyssey Live, featuring Nik Turner/Thomas Crimble/Huw >Lloyd Langton/Terry Ollis, recorded at the Birkenhead, Merseyside, >Ystalafera and South Wales gigs last year - to be released via Ozit- >Morpheus/Nikt Records; limited edition available at the forthcoming >Blackpool gig! This CD will contain a lavish booklet featuring many rare >photos and superbly spaced-out design!" > >Anyone buying it? Not me Bernhard From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 26 15:51:26 2001 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:51:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: Burg Herzberg In-Reply-To: <200104232114.RAA20572@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, K Henderson wrote: > P.S. Doug...what are Pretty Things like these days? I only have SFSorrow > and another disc from c. 1975 (?)...do they have any recent stuff that I > should hear before seeing them? If you can find it there's a Snapper webcast thing along the lines of the Ozrics' _Spice Doubt_ called _Resurrection_ which gives you some idea of how they are live; it contains _S. F. Sorrow_ live, which is nice. However, it does also have Dave Gilmour and Arthur Brown on it so while these are good things they may hide the real sound of the band slightly, I rather like it :-) Yours, Jon -- Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ===================================================================== "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Apr 26 15:53:24 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:53:24 -0400 Subject: BOC: Cover surprise Message-ID: Brian Halligan wrote: > DarylnSAT from the BOC BB pointed out that Melne has posted the new artwork > at http://www.blueoystercult.com as a popup window. Click on the image for a > surprise. > > Brian > > -- > Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower > MP3 Radio > Updated Semi-Occasionally > http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html > > Now that is cool Melne strikes again. Id love to meet this girl. Bet she is a doll. -- ___________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Apr 26 16:56:04 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Nobody) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:56:04 -0600 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) In-Reply-To: <200104261947.PAA17425@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >From the Morpheus Records website: "Furthermore, there is a new, upcoming live album in the works, entitled, 2001 - A Space (Rock) Odyssey Live, featuring Nik Turner/Thomas Crimble/Huw Lloyd Langton/Terry Ollis, recorded at the Birkenhead, Merseyside, Ystalafera and South Wales gigs last year - to be released via Ozit- Morpheus/Nikt Records; limited edition available at the forthcoming Blackpool gig! This CD will contain a lavish booklet featuring many rare photos and superbly spaced-out design!" Anyone buying it? Colin.... thanks for reminding me that I have to "go bitch" at ozzit for sending me the "big amongst sheep" 12", when I CLEARLY ordered the 7".... will you go to that gig and get me a limited CD...if I pay you well??? also....can anyone speak about the band "THE ASTRONAUTS" that NIK guested with, and even better, fix me up, for a trade heavy in your(their) favor??? ferret in dallas From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Thu Apr 26 16:02:34 2001 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:02:34 -0500 Subject: OFF:Uncle Sams on Mars (was Different Circles) Message-ID: http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/index2.html http://www.artbell.com/circles.html ***** set your VCRs for the Special on Mars and Cydonia, it will air Friday at 8PM CST on the PAX network, the show is called Encounters of the Unexplained. ***** "No one down here knows how to work the brakes, but Uncle Sam's on Mars" How could Calvert have known this in the 70's? :-) -- Doug B From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Thu Apr 26 16:29:19 2001 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:29:19 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) In-Reply-To: <200104261949.VAA00200@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: Not me either! I'd only purchase the REAL thing! ( Sorry Nik....but if there's no Dave Brock...then I'm afraid it just aint Hawkwind! Hawkwind without Brock is like a Rolls Royce Car being driven by the engine from a Ford Escort!) Ha ha..... mel From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 16:32:26 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:32:26 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: I will probably buy it: I have a boot recording of the Welsh show and it isn't too bad! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melvyn Vincent" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:29 PM Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > Not me either! > I'd only purchase the REAL thing! ( Sorry Nik....but if there's no Dave > Brock...then I'm afraid it just aint Hawkwind! Hawkwind without Brock is > like a Rolls Royce Car being driven by the engine from a Ford Escort!) Ha > ha..... > > mel > From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Apr 26 16:43:44 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:43:44 -0400 Subject: HW: Lounge Axe and TotalRock CD-R covers Message-ID: Hey, Kevin Were the band playing 'Levitation' when you took that cover shot at the Astoria? Simon House certainly seems to be levitating!! Mick > Try this page; hopefully it'll last this time! >http://www.geocities.com/flighttube/ > >KevinSommers May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Apr 26 16:46:05 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:46:05 -0700 Subject: Different Circles In-Reply-To: <200104261935.MAA04925@bob.te-cats.com> Message-ID: ALMOST as cool as the Nazca Lines.... KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of John H. McCartney Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 12:35 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OT: Different Circles .... I'm looking for images of crop circles. Just images, and lots of 'em. Why? Because they look cool! Init enough? TIA scorch From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Apr 26 16:49:39 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:49:39 -0400 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:32:26 +0100, Colin Allen wrote: >I will probably buy it: I have a boot recording of the Welsh show ... Good point, Colin. IMO it would be hypocritical to possess a boot recording of a show and then not purchase the recording if released officially in a way that benefits the musicians involved (wasn't there just a thread on this?). Unless, of course, you've already sent a direct payment to said musicians (censored personal anecdote regarding Weird CD's goes here). So I'll definitely be buying a copy eventually ... > ... and it isn't too bad! Overall, yes. Parts of it are a *complete* mess (even more so than the sloppier parts of the Hawkestra event). But there are a few brilliant moments, too. I've always found the combination of Nik and Huw to be that way (often a mess, but occasionally brilliant, that is) ... >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Melvyn Vincent" >To: >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:29 PM >Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > >> Not me either! >> I'd only purchase the REAL thing! ( Sorry Nik....but if there's no Dave >> Brock...then I'm afraid it just aint Hawkwind! Hawkwind without Brock is >> like a Rolls Royce Car being driven by the engine from a Ford Escort!) Ha >> ha..... Did it say anywhere (except the subject header, which was clearly not serious, at least that's what "ha ha" usually implies to me) that this would be called a Hawkwind album? Just checking (is there a URL anywhere with more info? enquiring minds wanna know) ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Apr 26 16:51:44 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:51:44 -0700 Subject: HW: Lounge Axe and TotalRock CD-R covers In-Reply-To: <20010426204056.QRZS3652.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> Message-ID: Errr, well, I only "took" the picture from the Mission Control gallery.... KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Michael Crook Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:44 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Lounge Axe and TotalRock CD-R covers Hey, Kevin Were the band playing 'Levitation' when you took that cover shot at the Astoria? Simon House certainly seems to be levitating!! Mick From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 16:54:56 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:54:56 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: Agreed, it sems wrong not to buy it almost! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Pearson" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:49 PM Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:32:26 +0100, Colin Allen > wrote: > >I will probably buy it: I have a boot recording of the Welsh show ... > > Good point, Colin. IMO it would be hypocritical to possess a boot > recording of a show and then not purchase the recording if released > officially in a way that benefits the musicians involved (wasn't there just > a thread on this?). Unless, of course, you've already sent a direct > payment to said musicians (censored personal anecdote regarding Weird CD's > goes here). So I'll definitely be buying a copy eventually ... > > > ... and it isn't too bad! > > Overall, yes. Parts of it are a *complete* mess (even more so than the > sloppier parts of the Hawkestra event). But there are a few brilliant > moments, too. I've always found the combination of Nik and Huw to be that > way (often a mess, but occasionally brilliant, that is) ... > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Melvyn Vincent" > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:29 PM > >Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > > > > >> Not me either! > >> I'd only purchase the REAL thing! ( Sorry Nik....but if there's no Dave > >> Brock...then I'm afraid it just aint Hawkwind! Hawkwind without Brock is > >> like a Rolls Royce Car being driven by the engine from a Ford Escort!) Ha > >> ha..... > > Did it say anywhere (except the subject header, which was clearly not > serious, at least that's what "ha ha" usually implies to me) that this > would be called a Hawkwind album? Just checking (is there a URL anywhere > with more info? enquiring minds wanna know) ... > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Thu Apr 26 16:58:20 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:58:20 -0700 Subject: OFF:Uncle Sams on Mars (was Different Circles) Message-ID: > > ***** set your VCRs for the Special on Mars and Cydonia, it will > air Friday at 8PM CST on the PAX network, the show is called > Encounters of the Unexplained. ***** > Can't be any worse than _Mission To Mars_ was..... scorch From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Apr 26 17:36:29 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:36:29 +0100 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: Good news and bad news: Good news is that 'Spacebrock' will almost certainly be repressed shortly Bad news is that 'Weird 6' is almost derfinitely NOT going to be repressed, and that also applies to one of the other Weird CD's once it runs out, but I didn't have time to figure out which one, last thing this evening. Hope to let you know. Andy G. P.S. No - don;t hang your head - I know normally we are pretty hot on all these things but even we aren't perfect so I don't blame anyone for kepping options open. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:54 AM Subject: Re: spacebrock > Michael W Blackman > > Andy G certainly delivers - and is fast too! > > I hang my head in shame.... > > Bill From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Apr 26 17:40:50 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:40:50 +0100 Subject: (OFF) spacebrock (humor)? Message-ID: take my advice - stick with a pussy cat!!! A touch of humour in the middle of the current swirling void of group politics and walking on broken glass that is the Hawkwind factions right now is always welcomed. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coleman" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 5:32 AM Subject: Re: (OFF) spacebrock (humor)? > Andy G said: > "yes - you should have (see message just posted) - start scouring or get > Mikey Coleman to find one - the Hawkwind fan's equivalent of a ferret (no > offence Mike!!!)" > > there is that old saying.."any publicity is good publicity"...although I > guess I don't deserve it anymore....I grow fat with inaction, complacency > mode must die... > > 'whathappend'? anyway..I would always be VERY PLEASED to direct anyone > into HW to an appropriate outlet, that can get their but moving quickly to > fix you up right...(so long as Andy OK's it)...... > > and Ande....there was just a section of the news about a lady who is > "ferret lady", and takes in discarded, naughty tempered Ferrets.... > > they are quite cute, loveable little thingamajigs, and they run all over > her house, to-and-fro.... > > only one problem...... > > they are quite sneaky, fast, pesky little torpedos, and you can't catch them... > > if they don't wish to be caught... > > ?????? From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Apr 26 17:49:53 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:49:53 +0100 Subject: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups Message-ID: how about thinking REALLY left-field and have: Brock with Christan Vander on drums, Christian Boule on rhythm and glissando guitars, Martin of Krel on synths, Godpeed's violin player and the dual electric bass line-up of Percy Jones and the guy out of stoner band Demon Cleaner - now THERE'S a fantasy line-up Do I see the men in the white coats coming to take me away, ha ha!! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:05 AM Subject: Re: Fantasy Hawkwind line ups > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Kirsten Procter wrote: > > > Dave Brock > > (well, duh) > > Simon House > > Me (random low-end brass. This *is* fantasy, remember?) > > It would certainly add something... > > > Bill Ward (*why* not? See, you can;t think of a reason. That's not a > > good enough reason[2]) > > Because he's famous for not being able to keep time? Indeed, has > made a career of it? And because Simon King is a better drummer? > > > Ron Tree (vocals only, please) > > Missed out a fourth bass player there for no good reason surely > :-) > > > Bob Calvert (think of the duets!) > > Bob sharing a stage with Ron... It could get messy. > > > Lemmy > > Adrian Shaw > > Alan Davey (what d;you mean, we don;t need three bass players?) > > No really, we don't. Lemmy and Alan possibly. That's worked > once. But Adrian plays a different, lighter-fingered style, and I think > they'd clash badly. > > > Tim Blake > > And Del, and Harvey, and Keith. In fact maybe not Tim if we've > got those three. > > > [1] Hey, Benedict is only 2, you can't expect him to always be > > reasonable. > > Hey, I'm only 25, you can't expect... Oh hang on. Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jon Jarrett (01223 514989) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ===================================================================== > "There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know" From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Apr 26 17:56:33 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:56:33 +0100 Subject: HW and CDS Message-ID: Oh - forgot to add to you and everyone else - the new catalogue (with your CD reviewed in it Michael) is running late due to the prog-rock catalogue preceeding it running late, due to a major last minute review for, of all things, an ultra bargain price Yes tribute album!!! The wild and wonderul world of CD Services!!! Next week for definite for the catalogue, sports fans. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:34 AM Subject: Re: thanks BoCL/Distant Hurryandbuyzons > Thanks Good Sir Andy G > > Mb > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 4:04 AM > Subject: Re: thanks BoCL/Distant Hurryandbuyzons > > > > consider it done as part of what we owe you Michael - will go out with the > > '82 double thing OK. > > Andy G. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Apr 26 17:53:13 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:53:13 +0100 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: praise indeed - we try to please - but as I say, NO-ONE gets it right 100% of the time. Know this and you will rarely be disappointed. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:15 AM Subject: Re: spacebrock > Andy G certainly delivers - and is fast too! > > > > > As for the album Spacebrock I'm still waiting for the bloody thing to > > arrive, so I can't comment. Should have ordered it through Andy G. and it > > would have been here by now. But no - I had to give the job to the local > > boys. "Its coming," they say. Yeah by f**king sailing ship... > > > > Bill > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Apr 26 18:17:48 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:17:48 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: I have to chip in here. CD Services WILL have this in stock before the gig so we are told and so it will be in the catalogue next week. However, I hear from people I am in contact with that there is some murky politics going on right now between the Brock and Turner camps which I don't want to get involved with in any way, shape or form. CDS have been offered a sales stand at the Tuner all-dayer thing, which we are considering but have NOT confirmed, and are also considering a stand at the real Hawkwind's Canterbury gig, trying to treat all this from a retailer's point of view only (as UK outlet for all things space-rock and psych) without taking sides. We do not want to be a 'pig in the middle' of anything that may or may not be 'in dispute'.. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:54 PM Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > Agreed, it sems wrong not to buy it almost! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Douglas Pearson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:49 PM > Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > > > On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:32:26 +0100, Colin Allen > > wrote: > > >I will probably buy it: I have a boot recording of the Welsh show ... > > > > Good point, Colin. IMO it would be hypocritical to possess a boot > > recording of a show and then not purchase the recording if released > > officially in a way that benefits the musicians involved (wasn't there > just > > a thread on this?). Unless, of course, you've already sent a direct > > payment to said musicians (censored personal anecdote regarding Weird CD's > > goes here). So I'll definitely be buying a copy eventually ... > > > > > ... and it isn't too bad! > > > > Overall, yes. Parts of it are a *complete* mess (even more so than the > > sloppier parts of the Hawkestra event). But there are a few brilliant > > moments, too. I've always found the combination of Nik and Huw to be that > > way (often a mess, but occasionally brilliant, that is) ... > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Melvyn Vincent" > > >To: > > >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:29 PM > > >Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > > > > > > > >> Not me either! > > >> I'd only purchase the REAL thing! ( Sorry Nik....but if there's no Dave > > >> Brock...then I'm afraid it just aint Hawkwind! Hawkwind without Brock > is > > >> like a Rolls Royce Car being driven by the engine from a Ford Escort!) > Ha > > >> ha..... > > > > Did it say anywhere (except the subject header, which was clearly not > > serious, at least that's what "ha ha" usually implies to me) that this > > would be called a Hawkwind album? Just checking (is there a URL anywhere > > with more info? enquiring minds wanna know) ... > > > > -Doug > > ceres at sirius.com > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Apr 26 18:22:54 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:22:54 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: didn't think a Big Am Sheep 7" existed - am I wrong? Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nobody" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:56 PM Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > From the Morpheus Records website: > > "Furthermore, there is a new, upcoming live album in the works, entitled, > 2001 - A Space (Rock) Odyssey Live, featuring Nik Turner/Thomas Crimble/Huw > Lloyd Langton/Terry Ollis, recorded at the Birkenhead, Merseyside, > Ystalafera and South Wales gigs last year - to be released via Ozit- > Morpheus/Nikt Records; limited edition available at the forthcoming > Blackpool gig! This CD will contain a lavish booklet featuring many rare > photos and superbly spaced-out design!" > > Anyone buying it? > > > Colin.... > > thanks for reminding me that I have to "go bitch" at ozzit for sending me > the "big amongst sheep" 12", when I CLEARLY ordered the 7".... > > will you go to that gig and get me a limited CD...if I pay you well??? > > also....can anyone speak about the band "THE ASTRONAUTS" that NIK guested > with, and even better, fix me up, for a trade heavy in your(their) favor??? > > ferret in dallas From spacehead at SPACESTATION.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 18:36:18 2001 From: spacehead at SPACESTATION.CO.UK (Mr. Dibs) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:36:18 -0400 Subject: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: /surely the present line-up fulfills all your fantasies, but just to enter the fray, how about: Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith Kniveton, Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, Rizz, Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is currently running. WELCOME TO THE FUTURE PEOPLE. ONWARDS AND EVER UPWARDS. MR. D. From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Apr 26 19:03:32 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:03:32 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) In-Reply-To: <200104261947.PAA17425@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: No-one's claiming it's a Hawkwind recording, are they? It looks fairly upfront what it is, or isn't. -- Andy www.andygilham.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 20:21:41 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:21:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Message-ID: Count me in too! Dave -----Original Message----- From: BL Young To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 24 April 2001 01:48 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway >Just a quick note that the Brixton Hawkestra is being distributed -- all 6 >discs! That includes the 3 cdrs for the Hawkwind set, as well as 3 >additional cdrs for the following solo sets performed that night: Simon >House, Tim Blake, & Bedouin. > >This is *NOT* a commercial venture, so anybody interested should be able to >get a set, provided they're willing to buy their own blanks and pay their >own postage (or set up trades, of course). > >For more information, you can join the neo-quark email group (on >yahoogroups.com). A link can be found to the neo-quark group on the >following page: http://www.geocities.com/hawklord1999/neoquark.html > >What's a neo-quark? It's a "Non-commerical Exchange Of Quality Unauthorized >Audio Recordings for Kollectors", and after the Brixton Hawkestra we hope to >have a few more exchanges. > >The Brixton Hawkestra tree already has Master Branches set up in the >following locations: > USA (Eastern) > USA (Western) > UK > Denmark > Australia > Canada > Russia > >And finally, if the Hawkestra ever does get a legitimate release, we >encourage all traders to purchase the authorized item, as without the rocket >fuel the spaceship Hawkwind won't fly. > >Regards, > >Bryan Young > From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Thu Apr 26 19:56:47 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (Bryan Young) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:56:47 -0600 Subject: HW: Lounge Axe and TotalRock CD-R covers Message-ID: I guess I'm a photographer, too, as I "take" a lot of pictures that way.... :() Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Sommers To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu Date: Thursday, April 26, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: Re: HW: Lounge Axe and TotalRock CD-R covers >Errr, well, I only "took" the picture from the Mission Control gallery.... > >KevinSommers > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of Michael Crook >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:44 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Lounge Axe and TotalRock CD-R covers > > >Hey, Kevin > >Were the band playing 'Levitation' when you took that cover shot at the >Astoria? Simon House certainly seems to be levitating!! > >Mick From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Apr 26 19:39:52 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:39:52 -0500 Subject: come chat Message-ID: hey...if anyone is around, come chat. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Thu Apr 26 19:45:54 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:45:54 -0500 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: Hey, here's a request that will probably go unanswered. Does anyone have a Hawkwind "Love & Peace" poster in reasonably good shape that you'd like to sell? Needless to say, I'll pay quite a bit for this item. John Majka jmajka2 at home.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Thu Apr 26 19:51:30 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:51:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... In-Reply-To: <001501c0ceab$08b6c8a0$e7d1b718@cc177845c> Message-ID: I've got one, framed, in as close to perfect nick as you're likely to find. How much are you peying? -- Andy www.andygilham.com From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Apr 26 20:27:33 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:27:33 -0400 Subject: Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect live at the Carlisle Stars & Stripes November 3 1986 Message-ID: Hi hawkfans Those who have already sent me e-mail that wish to be part of the Calvert project should by now have received a confirmation that I have gotten their information. Anyone else who is interested in this project and has not responded please do so by Saturday 4/28/01 to my address below corwyn at nycap.rr.com Mike From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Thu Apr 26 20:50:57 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:50:57 -0500 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: How does two hundred US dollars sound? Or let me know... Do you have a photo of this poster? I'd love to see what it looks like in its frame etc. If you have any other vintage HW posters I might be interested in those as well... John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > I've got one, framed, in as close to perfect nick as you're likely to find. > How much are you peying? > > -- Andy > > www.andygilham.com From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 22:06:27 2001 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 03:06:27 +0100 Subject: come chat Message-ID: Hi again Arin how ya doing? where can we chat? Ben Arin Komins wrote: > hey...if anyone is around, come chat. > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET Thu Apr 26 22:11:09 2001 From: chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET (Chaos23) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 03:11:09 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: I might. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Pospiech" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 8:49 PM Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > At 15:47 26.04.2001 -0400, you wrote: > >>From the Morpheus Records website: > > > >"Furthermore, there is a new, upcoming live album in the works, entitled, > >2001 - A Space (Rock) Odyssey Live, featuring Nik Turner/Thomas Crimble/Huw > >Lloyd Langton/Terry Ollis, recorded at the Birkenhead, Merseyside, > >Ystalafera and South Wales gigs last year - to be released via Ozit- > >Morpheus/Nikt Records; limited edition available at the forthcoming > >Blackpool gig! This CD will contain a lavish booklet featuring many rare > >photos and superbly spaced-out design!" > > > >Anyone buying it? > > Not me > > > Bernhard From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Thu Apr 26 22:30:55 2001 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 03:30:55 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: Put me down for a copy! Ben Fagin Chaos23 wrote: > I might. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernhard Pospiech" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 8:49 PM > Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > > At 15:47 26.04.2001 -0400, you wrote: > > >>From the Morpheus Records website: > > > > > >"Furthermore, there is a new, upcoming live album in the works, entitled, > > >2001 - A Space (Rock) Odyssey Live, featuring Nik Turner/Thomas > Crimble/Huw > > >Lloyd Langton/Terry Ollis, recorded at the Birkenhead, Merseyside, > > >Ystalafera and South Wales gigs last year - to be released via Ozit- > > >Morpheus/Nikt Records; limited edition available at the forthcoming > > >Blackpool gig! This CD will contain a lavish booklet featuring many rare > > >photos and superbly spaced-out design!" > > > > > >Anyone buying it? > > > > Not me > > > > > > Bernhard From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 26 23:12:47 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:12:47 +0800 Subject: spacebrock Message-ID: > Bad news is that 'Weird 6' is almost derfinitely NOT going to be repressed, > and that also applies to one of the other Weird CD's once it runs out, but I > didn't have time to figure out which one, last thing this evening. Hope to > let you know. I wish, if they do re-release The Weird Tapes, that they do it as one set, & leave off the tracks that are freely available elsewhere on CD (such as the Space Ritual material). William From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Apr 26 23:23:55 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:23:55 -0400 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: WOW.. Metallica's Astronomy on the radio Message-ID: JUST turned on my radio to 103.9 or so in the captial region and that lovely lovely tune came out of the amps at the start of the first verse no less! I think they did a very nice job, trying to capture the atmospherics of the ST version and trying to make the vocals as emotive as Deb's... Nice heavy chorus too.. Hey indeed! Also, its cool how the lead guitar is very respectful of Buck's style. The radio guy even knew Secret Treaties was the album w/ the original tune. Practice makes perfect Jason From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 26 23:15:21 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:15:21 +0800 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Message-ID: And me!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "david hall" To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway > Count me in too! > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: BL Young > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 24 April 2001 01:48 > Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway > > > >Just a quick note that the Brixton Hawkestra is being distributed -- all 6 > >discs! That includes the 3 cdrs for the Hawkwind set, as well as 3 > >additional cdrs for the following solo sets performed that night: Simon > >House, Tim Blake, & Bedouin. > > > >This is *NOT* a commercial venture, so anybody interested should be able to > >get a set, provided they're willing to buy their own blanks and pay their > >own postage (or set up trades, of course). > > > >For more information, you can join the neo-quark email group (on > >yahoogroups.com). A link can be found to the neo-quark group on the > >following page: http://www.geocities.com/hawklord1999/neoquark.html > > > >What's a neo-quark? It's a "Non-commerical Exchange Of Quality > Unauthorized > >Audio Recordings for Kollectors", and after the Brixton Hawkestra we hope > to > >have a few more exchanges. > > > >The Brixton Hawkestra tree already has Master Branches set up in the > >following locations: > > USA (Eastern) > > USA (Western) > > UK > > Denmark > > Australia > > Canada > > Russia > > > >And finally, if the Hawkestra ever does get a legitimate release, we > >encourage all traders to purchase the authorized item, as without the > rocket > >fuel the spaceship Hawkwind won't fly. > > > >Regards, > > > >Bryan Young > > > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 26 23:21:25 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:21:25 +0800 Subject: Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect live at the Carlisle Stars & Stripes November 3 1986 Message-ID: Hi there I missed what the project is about, so I'd be interested in more info. I'd most likely be interested as well. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Habiby" To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:27 AM Subject: Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect live at the Carlisle Stars & Stripes November 3 1986 > Hi hawkfans > > Those who have already sent me e-mail that wish to be part of the Calvert > project should by now have received a confirmation that I have gotten their > information. > > Anyone else who is interested in this project and has not responded please > do so by Saturday 4/28/01 to my address below > > corwyn at nycap.rr.com > > Mike > From Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Apr 27 03:22:38 2001 From: Colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:22:38 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: Put me down for a copy then please! ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:17 PM Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > I have to chip in here. > CD Services WILL have this in stock before the gig so we are told and so it > will be in the catalogue next week. > However, I hear from people I am in contact with that there is some murky > politics going on right now between the Brock and Turner camps which I don't > want to get involved with in any way, shape or form. > CDS have been offered a sales stand at the Tuner all-dayer thing, which we > are considering but have NOT confirmed, and are also considering a stand at > the real Hawkwind's Canterbury gig, trying to treat all this from a > retailer's point of view only (as UK outlet for all things space-rock and > psych) without taking sides. We do not want to be a 'pig in the middle' of > anything that may or may not be 'in dispute'.. > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Allen" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:54 PM > Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > > > Agreed, it sems wrong not to buy it almost! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Douglas Pearson" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:49 PM > > Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > > > > > > On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:32:26 +0100, Colin Allen > > > wrote: > > > >I will probably buy it: I have a boot recording of the Welsh show ... > > > > > > Good point, Colin. IMO it would be hypocritical to possess a boot > > > recording of a show and then not purchase the recording if released > > > officially in a way that benefits the musicians involved (wasn't there > > just > > > a thread on this?). Unless, of course, you've already sent a direct > > > payment to said musicians (censored personal anecdote regarding Weird > CD's > > > goes here). So I'll definitely be buying a copy eventually ... > > > > > > > ... and it isn't too bad! > > > > > > Overall, yes. Parts of it are a *complete* mess (even more so than the > > > sloppier parts of the Hawkestra event). But there are a few brilliant > > > moments, too. I've always found the combination of Nik and Huw to be > that > > > way (often a mess, but occasionally brilliant, that is) ... > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Melvyn Vincent" > > > >To: > > > >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:29 PM > > > >Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > > > > > > > > > > >> Not me either! > > > >> I'd only purchase the REAL thing! ( Sorry Nik....but if there's no > Dave > > > >> Brock...then I'm afraid it just aint Hawkwind! Hawkwind without Brock > > is > > > >> like a Rolls Royce Car being driven by the engine from a Ford > Escort!) > > Ha > > > >> ha..... > > > > > > Did it say anywhere (except the subject header, which was clearly not > > > serious, at least that's what "ha ha" usually implies to me) that this > > > would be called a Hawkwind album? Just checking (is there a URL > anywhere > > > with more info? enquiring minds wanna know) ... > > > > > > -Doug > > > ceres at sirius.com > > > > From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Fri Apr 27 03:21:41 2001 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 03:21:41 -0400 Subject: HW:re spacebrock comments Message-ID: Hi, Not said anything for a little while, work is too busy to let me write much but here goes. I think that everybody needs to put things in context when talking about the future of this great group and recent and current releases. A couple of points are that personal finances have stopped me buying many of the recent releases and getting to any shows since the '97 UK tour. This disappoints me at a personal level but hey I still got my life and years of previously collected material to keep me going. You have got to remember that Dave & Co have kept this band going for many years now without a major record deal top back them up. There are also many other things going on in the background (that I for one don't know enough to comment about, others will know more than me) that only add to the pressure. Be thankful that there is still creativity there after more than 30 years. Appreciate the fact that so many care and some of those people are in a position to do something positive. I think that the current line up has tremendous potential (especially with the help of some excellent guests). People like Ron, Jerry and Richard have contributed greatly in recent years and it sounds like they still have so much more to offer. They should not be dissed in comparison to any individual's favourite previous bassist, drummer, guitarist, vocalist or whatever. People have been in this band and contributed over the years. We should thank them and respect them for their efforts. Times and moods change as the years go by. Just look at the way technology moves forward but the musical landscape changes. When was the last time that you saw Hawkwind mentioned in a large circulation publication. Just to keep this band going these days is a great achievement. I thank Dave and everybody else involved in doing so. Peace, love and respect to everybody out there who reads this. Hope to see some of you when I next get the chance to get along to a show. Mark From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Apr 27 04:47:51 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:47:51 -0600 Subject: HW:re (OFF) spacebrock comments In-Reply-To: <200104270721.DAA22089@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In thought of what Mark Von Bargen said: I HATE MONEY I REEEEELY HATE MONEY (not having it grow on trees everywhere, where the only work is to pluck handfuls) you need a "loaner hawkwind fix"?? alternately....I manage to "sponge" cash to buy all Hawkwind, but my life is an atrophied disaster of a timebomb just waiting to collapse totally into hundreds of little pieces..... so if YOUR life is full (family, health, wife, future, career, etc) consider the other down..... greedy material collecters with bad Karma..... having just a normal life seems so impossible for me to have..... I am TRULY envious of all, just REGULAR, NORMAL, people surviving... Mike Coleman From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Apr 27 03:50:53 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:50:53 +0100 Subject: HW: re spacebrock comments In-Reply-To: <200104270721.DAA22089@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > When was the last time that you saw Hawkwind > mentioned in a large circulation publication. A couple of years ago, when Epoch/Eclipse was favourably reviewed in the Guardian, the Sunday Times, Time Out... -- Andy www.andygilham.com From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Apr 27 04:22:59 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:22:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: Hi all, I've never heard of the Love & peace poster. Any chance of someone posting a picture for us Love & peace virgins.... Also anyone seen the Roadhawks Tie Dye top on ebay.. anyone know where this is from, looks too new to be one from the mid seventies ? Regards iain John Majka wrote: > How does two hundred US dollars sound? Or let me know... > Do you have a photo of this poster? I'd love to see what it looks like in > its frame etc. If you have any other vintage HW posters I might be > interested in those as well... > John Majka > jmajka2 at home.com > > > I've got one, framed, in as close to perfect nick as you're likely to > find. > > How much are you peying? > > > > -- Andy > > > > www.andygilham.com From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Apr 27 04:57:53 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:57:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... In-Reply-To: <3AE92C62.B73E9CD8@aol.com> Message-ID: I've put some digicam pics up at www.andygilham.com/hwposters.html Well, I think I have, although my ISP seems to be having an off day :) -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of iain ferguson > Sent: 27 April 2001 09:23 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... > > > Hi all, > I've never heard of the Love & peace poster. Any chance of > someone posting a > picture for us Love & peace virgins.... > > Also anyone seen the Roadhawks Tie Dye top on ebay.. anyone know > where this is > from, looks too new to be one from the mid seventies ? > > Regards > iain > > John Majka wrote: > > > How does two hundred US dollars sound? Or let me know... > > Do you have a photo of this poster? I'd love to see what it > looks like in > > its frame etc. If you have any other vintage HW posters I might be > > interested in those as well... > > John Majka > > jmajka2 at home.com > > > > > I've got one, framed, in as close to perfect nick as you're likely to > > find. > > > How much are you peying? > > > > > > -- Andy > > > > > > www.andygilham.com > > From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Apr 27 04:58:12 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:58:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... In-Reply-To: <000901c0ceb4$1f261b00$e7d1b718@cc177845c> Message-ID: -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of John Majka > Sent: 27 April 2001 01:51 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... > > > How does two hundred US dollars sound? Or let me know... > Do you have a photo of this poster? I'd love to see what it looks like in > its frame etc. If you have any other vintage HW posters I might be > interested in those as well... > John Majka > jmajka2 at home.com > > > > I've got one, framed, in as close to perfect nick as you're likely to > find. > > How much are you peying? > > > > -- Andy > > > > www.andygilham.com > > From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Apr 27 05:16:42 2001 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:16:42 -0700 Subject: Lounge Axe and TotalRock CD-R covers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry in advance for anyone who has already printed the front cover of the Lounge Ax CD-R, but something about it wasn't quite right to me; I figured what it was, and made the change... Reload? KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Kevin Sommers Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 7:08 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Lounge Axe and TotalRock CD-R covers Try this page; hopefully it'll last this time! http://www.geocities.com/flighttube/ KevinSommers From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Apr 27 05:46:18 2001 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:46:18 +0100 Subject: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: OK, here goes my Fantasy line-up. Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Tim Blake, Jerry Richards, Keith Kniveton, Ron Tree. ( with Martin Griffin, Huw & harvey) coming on to do Living on A Knife Edge, Rocky Paths & Angels of Death). With Lee Perry or the Mad Professor on the mixing desk. Plus the astralasia guys making an awesome dance remix album of the live gig. PS. anyone else noticed that hardly anyone has put Nik in their fantasy line ups . Oh and I won't be buying the Nik wind album.. Can't stand his Sax.... regards iain "Mr. Dibs" wrote: > /surely the present line-up fulfills all your fantasies, but just to enter > the fray, how about: > > Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith Kniveton, > Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, Rizz, > Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. > > Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is > currently running. > > WELCOME TO THE FUTURE PEOPLE. ONWARDS AND EVER UPWARDS. > > MR. D. From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Apr 27 06:21:17 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:21:17 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: Maybe I'm being sentimental but I do not believe that Hawkwind would be where they are today without Nik Turner. He is a demigod (which includes suitably insane) and his mentality has inspired me for 15 years now. Hawkwind will always need Dave Brock but without Nik Turner......it just doesn't bear thinking about - any albums he's not on are as ever, brilliant but for pure psychedelia - Nik, Nik, Nik. Sorry.... big soft spot for lunatics of this world. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Melvyn Vincent [mailto:mel at MVA.U-NET.COM] Sent: 26 April 2001 21:29 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Not me either! I'd only purchase the REAL thing! ( Sorry Nik....but if there's no Dave Brock...then I'm afraid it just aint Hawkwind! Hawkwind without Brock is like a Rolls Royce Car being driven by the engine from a Ford Escort!) Ha ha..... mel *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Apr 27 06:29:13 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:29:13 -0500 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: RIGHT ON SAM, I totally agree. STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Sam Kirwan [mailto:samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:21 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Maybe I'm being sentimental but I do not believe that Hawkwind would be where they are today without Nik Turner. He is a demigod (which includes suitably insane) and his mentality has inspired me for 15 years now. Hawkwind will always need Dave Brock but without Nik Turner......it just doesn't bear thinking about - any albums he's not on are as ever, brilliant but for pure psychedelia - Nik, Nik, Nik. Sorry.... big soft spot for lunatics of this world. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Melvyn Vincent [mailto:mel at MVA.U-NET.COM] Sent: 26 April 2001 21:29 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Not me either! I'd only purchase the REAL thing! ( Sorry Nik....but if there's no Dave Brock...then I'm afraid it just aint Hawkwind! Hawkwind without Brock is like a Rolls Royce Car being driven by the engine from a Ford Escort!) Ha ha..... mel **************************************************************************** ******* The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL **************************************************************************** ******* From chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET Fri Apr 27 06:37:10 2001 From: chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET (Lord Ch@oS 23) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:37:10 +0100 Subject: Assault on the Hawks Message-ID: Hi,Does anyone know if there was a CD release of the 1985 Friday rockshow session whick included 'Assault on the Hawks' which was 'Assault and Battery' blending into 'Night of the Hawks' I have a casstte copy but would like to hear it in all it's BBC glory.Also has anyone got a COMPLETE recording of Solstice at stonehenge 1984.I have a bootleg tape of Sunset pt.2 and the jettisoundz Video.maybe jettisoundz have more footage.I was fortunate enough to be there and also fortunate that someone walked into me in the morning as i slept in my sleeping bag and woke me for the Sunrise set. Lord OV Ch at oS 23 From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Apr 27 06:42:35 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:42:35 +0100 Subject: re spacebrock comments Message-ID: On with that - spoken with true eloquence Mark. We are all very lucky to have had the pleasure of discovering a band that can literally turn your life upside down - I wouldn't change anything they've ever done - it all counts and it all matters. I love all and every music and will dance to just about anything but I always come back to Hawkwind - each & every without fail. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Mark Von Bargen [mailto:mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK] Sent: 27 April 2001 08:22 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW:re spacebrock comments Hi, Not said anything for a little while, work is too busy to let me write much but here goes. I think that everybody needs to put things in context when talking about the future of this great group and recent and current releases. A couple of points are that personal finances have stopped me buying many of the recent releases and getting to any shows since the '97 UK tour. This disappoints me at a personal level but hey I still got my life and years of previously collected material to keep me going. You have got to remember that Dave & Co have kept this band going for many years now without a major record deal top back them up. There are also many other things going on in the background (that I for one don't know enough to comment about, others will know more than me) that only add to the pressure. Be thankful that there is still creativity there after more than 30 years. Appreciate the fact that so many care and some of those people are in a position to do something positive. I think that the current line up has tremendous potential (especially with the help of some excellent guests). People like Ron, Jerry and Richard have contributed greatly in recent years and it sounds like they still have so much more to offer. They should not be dissed in comparison to any individual's favourite previous bassist, drummer, guitarist, vocalist or whatever. People have been in this band and contributed over the years. We should thank them and respect them for their efforts. Times and moods change as the years go by. Just look at the way technology moves forward but the musical landscape changes. When was the last time that you saw Hawkwind mentioned in a large circulation publication. Just to keep this band going these days is a great achievement. I thank Dave and everybody else involved in doing so. Peace, love and respect to everybody out there who reads this. Hope to see some of you when I next get the chance to get along to a show. Mark *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Apr 27 06:40:44 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:40:44 -0500 Subject: Assault on the Hawks Message-ID: HI, I have that Friday rockshow on cd. I dont remember that 'assault on the hawks'. There are tapes of that out there which are probably the complete gig.STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: Lord Ch at oS 23 [mailto:chaos23 at CHAOS23.SCREAMING.NET] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:37 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Assault on the Hawks Hi,Does anyone know if there was a CD release of the 1985 Friday rockshow session whick included 'Assault on the Hawks' which was 'Assault and Battery' blending into 'Night of the Hawks' I have a casstte copy but would like to hear it in all it's BBC glory.Also has anyone got a COMPLETE recording of Solstice at stonehenge 1984.I have a bootleg tape of Sunset pt.2 and the jettisoundz Video.maybe jettisoundz have more footage.I was fortunate enough to be there and also fortunate that someone walked into me in the morning as i slept in my sleeping bag and woke me for the Sunrise set. Lord OV Ch at oS 23 From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Apr 27 06:44:28 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:44:28 +0100 Subject: HW: re spacebrock comments Message-ID: I thought someone mentioned seeing Space Ritual in a top 50 of album covers recently. That came from a major daily publication. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] Sent: 27 April 2001 08:51 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: re spacebrock comments > When was the last time that you saw Hawkwind > mentioned in a large circulation publication. A couple of years ago, when Epoch/Eclipse was favourably reviewed in the Guardian, the Sunday Times, Time Out... -- Andy www.andygilham.com *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Fri Apr 27 06:48:00 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:48:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: We've got the 'Chronicles tour poster' somewhere - not brilliant condition though - it's well loved. Sam -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham [mailto:email at ANDYGILHAM.COM] Sent: 27 April 2001 09:58 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... I've put some digicam pics up at www.andygilham.com/hwposters.html Well, I think I have, although my ISP seems to be having an off day :) -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of iain ferguson > Sent: 27 April 2001 09:23 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... > > > Hi all, > I've never heard of the Love & peace poster. Any chance of > someone posting a > picture for us Love & peace virgins.... > > Also anyone seen the Roadhawks Tie Dye top on ebay.. anyone know > where this is > from, looks too new to be one from the mid seventies ? > > Regards > iain > > John Majka wrote: > > > How does two hundred US dollars sound? Or let me know... > > Do you have a photo of this poster? I'd love to see what it > looks like in > > its frame etc. If you have any other vintage HW posters I might be > > interested in those as well... > > John Majka > > jmajka2 at home.com > > > > > I've got one, framed, in as close to perfect nick as you're likely to > > find. > > > How much are you peying? > > > > > > -- Andy > > > > > > www.andygilham.com > > *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From spacehead at SPACESTATION.CO.UK Fri Apr 27 06:57:41 2001 From: spacehead at SPACESTATION.CO.UK (Mr. Dibs) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 06:57:41 -0400 Subject: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:46:18 +0100, iain ferguson wrote: >OK, here goes my Fantasy line-up. > >Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Tim Blake, Jerry Richards, Keith >Kniveton, Ron Tree. >( with Martin Griffin, Huw & harvey) coming on to do Living on A Knife Edge, >Rocky Paths & Angels of Death). >With Lee Perry or the Mad Professor on the mixing desk. Plus the astralasia >guys making an awesome dance remix album of the live gig. > >PS. anyone else noticed that hardly anyone has put Nik in their fantasy line >ups . > >Oh and I won't be buying the Nik wind album.. Can't stand his Sax.... > >regards >iain > >"Mr. Dibs" wrote: > >> /surely the present line-up fulfills all your fantasies, but just to enter >> the fray, how about: >> >> Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith Kniveton, >> Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, Rizz, >> Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. >> >> Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is >> currently running. >> >> WELCOME TO THE FUTURE PEOPLE. ONWARDS AND EVER UPWARDS. >> >> MR. D. one has to remember that nik was only in the hawks for a short time, thus his contribution is not as great as some of the more recent members. perhaps this is why hardly anyone includes him in their fantasy line-ups. I reiterate that the only Hawkwind is the current one, and a bloody good job it does too, in the face of continued press indifference. (A review of a collection of old songs doesn't really count, where are the reviews of all the recent shows?) I for one am really looking forward to the next run of shows, c u there. Mr. D. From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Fri Apr 27 06:58:07 2001 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:58:07 +0200 Subject: AW: Assault on the Hawks Message-ID: Hi >Does anyone know if there was a CD release of the 1985 Friday rockshow session >whick included 'Assault on the Hawks' which was 'Assault and Battery' blending into 'Night of the >Hawks' This one does not exist on an official CD. It is a recording from 19.07.1985 Let me know if you need the complete track list for that short "gig" >Also has anyone got a COMPLETE recording of Solstice at stonehenge 1984. Yes, on CD-R and/or tape Bernhard Disclaimer 1. This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. 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From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Fri Apr 27 07:27:16 2001 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:27:16 +0200 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: I thought nik was in the hawks for like 8 years or more ... 1969-1975, 1982-84, I personally think that Nik adds a very unique element to the band and he should be given a lot of credit for keeping the hawkwind song and spirit alive over the years, even though he has penned very few numbers. He does not fit well with the current line up but has been a special element in the band in many. scott -----Original Message----- From: Mr. Dibs [mailto:spacehead at SPACESTATION.CO.UK] Sent: 27. april 2001 12:58 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:46:18 +0100, iain ferguson wrote: >OK, here goes my Fantasy line-up. > >Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Tim Blake, Jerry Richards, Keith >Kniveton, Ron Tree. >( with Martin Griffin, Huw & harvey) coming on to do Living on A Knife Edge, >Rocky Paths & Angels of Death). >With Lee Perry or the Mad Professor on the mixing desk. Plus the astralasia >guys making an awesome dance remix album of the live gig. > >PS. anyone else noticed that hardly anyone has put Nik in their fantasy line >ups . > >Oh and I won't be buying the Nik wind album.. Can't stand his Sax.... > >regards >iain > >"Mr. Dibs" wrote: > >> /surely the present line-up fulfills all your fantasies, but just to enter >> the fray, how about: >> >> Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith Kniveton, >> Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, Rizz, >> Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. >> >> Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is >> currently running. >> >> WELCOME TO THE FUTURE PEOPLE. ONWARDS AND EVER UPWARDS. >> >> MR. D. one has to remember that nik was only in the hawks for a short time, thus his contribution is not as great as some of the more recent members. perhaps this is why hardly anyone includes him in their fantasy line-ups. I reiterate that the only Hawkwind is the current one, and a bloody good job it does too, in the face of continued press indifference. (A review of a collection of old songs doesn't really count, where are the reviews of all the recent shows?) I for one am really looking forward to the next run of shows, c u there. Mr. D. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Apr 27 07:46:19 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:46:19 EDT Subject: OT: Different Circles In-Reply-To: <200104261935.MAA04925@bob.te-cats.com> Message-ID: On 26 Apr 2001, at 12:35, John H. McCartney wrote: > I'm looking for images of crop circles. Just images, and > lots of 'em. Why? Because they look cool! Init enough? > > Cool enough for Dave Wyndorf! theo From markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Apr 27 07:59:34 2001 From: markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM (mark cotton) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:59:34 -0000 Subject: HW:re spacebrock comments Message-ID: Well said, Mark. >From: Mark Von Bargen >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW:re spacebrock comments >Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 03:21:41 -0400 > >Hi, > >Not said anything for a little while, work is too busy to let me write much >but here goes. > >I think that everybody needs to put things in context when talking about >the future of this great group and recent and current releases. > >A couple of points are that personal finances have stopped me buying many >of the recent releases and getting to any shows since the '97 UK tour. This >disappoints me at a personal level but hey I still got my life and years of >previously collected material to keep me going. > >You have got to remember that Dave & Co have kept this band going for many >years now without a major record deal top back them up. There are also many >other things going on in the background (that I for one don't know enough >to comment about, others will know more than me) that only add to the >pressure. > >Be thankful that there is still creativity there after more than 30 years. >Appreciate the fact that so many care and some of those people are in a >position to do something positive. > >I think that the current line up has tremendous potential (especially with >the help of some excellent guests). People >like Ron, Jerry and Richard have contributed greatly in recent years and it >sounds like they still have so much more to offer. They should not be >dissed in comparison to any individual's favourite previous bassist, >drummer, guitarist, vocalist or whatever. > >People have been in this band and contributed over the years. We should >thank them and respect them for their efforts. Times and moods change as >the years go by. Just look at the way technology moves forward but the >musical landscape changes. When was the last time that you saw Hawkwind >mentioned in a large circulation publication. Just to keep this band going >these days is a great achievement. I thank Dave and everybody else involved >in doing so. > >Peace, love and respect to everybody out there who reads this. Hope to see >some of you when I next get the chance to get along to a show. > >Mark _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Apr 27 08:06:06 2001 From: markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM (mark cotton) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:06:06 -0000 Subject: re spacebrock comments Message-ID: You've got it right, Sam, Hawkwind are also for me the band that I always come back to. Right now I'm going through a heavy electronic phase, which has led me onto 'Church of Hawkwind', 'IITBOTFTBD' amongst others. Then there is 'Vegas' and 'Going to Hawaii', surely two of the finest 'drifting' tracks ever written. Cheers, Mark C. >From: Sam Kirwan >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: re spacebrock comments >Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:42:35 +0100 > >On with that - spoken with true eloquence Mark. We are all very lucky to >have had the pleasure of discovering a band that can literally turn your >life upside down - I wouldn't change anything they've ever done - it all >counts and it all matters. > >I love all and every music and will dance to just about anything but I >always come back to Hawkwind - each & every without fail. > >Sam > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Von Bargen [mailto:mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK] >Sent: 27 April 2001 08:22 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW:re spacebrock comments > > >Hi, > >Not said anything for a little while, work is too busy to let me write much >but here goes. > >I think that everybody needs to put things in context when talking about >the future of this great group and recent and current releases. > >A couple of points are that personal finances have stopped me buying many >of the recent releases and getting to any shows since the '97 UK tour. This >disappoints me at a personal level but hey I still got my life and years of >previously collected material to keep me going. > >You have got to remember that Dave & Co have kept this band going for many >years now without a major record deal top back them up. There are also many >other things going on in the background (that I for one don't know enough >to comment about, others will know more than me) that only add to the >pressure. > >Be thankful that there is still creativity there after more than 30 years. >Appreciate the fact that so many care and some of those people are in a >position to do something positive. > >I think that the current line up has tremendous potential (especially with >the help of some excellent guests). People >like Ron, Jerry and Richard have contributed greatly in recent years and it >sounds like they still have so much more to offer. They should not be >dissed in comparison to any individual's favourite previous bassist, >drummer, guitarist, vocalist or whatever. > >People have been in this band and contributed over the years. We should >thank them and respect them for their efforts. Times and moods change as >the years go by. Just look at the way technology moves forward but the >musical landscape changes. When was the last time that you saw Hawkwind >mentioned in a large circulation publication. Just to keep this band going >these days is a great achievement. I thank Dave and everybody else involved >in doing so. > >Peace, love and respect to everybody out there who reads this. Hope to see >some of you when I next get the chance to get along to a show. > >Mark > > >*********************************************************************************** >The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files >transmitted >with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the >personal attention >of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, >disclosure or >copying of this document is unauthorised. > >Thank you >NTL >*********************************************************************************** _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Fri Apr 27 13:17:47 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:17:47 -0400 Subject: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <200104271057.GAA23401@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Now we've had best line up and top five albums, how about the reverse. Here's my twopenneth..... Albums (worst) Bring me the Head Zones Sonic Attack Electric Teppee ASAM Line up: Nik Turner (although he does have some qualities or did early on) Keith Hayles - Keyboard Harvey Bainbridge - Bass/keyboard Danny Thompson - Drums Bridgett Whatever? - Screeching Paul Rudolph - Bass Well? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Mr. Dibs Sent: 27 April 2001 06:58 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:46:18 +0100, iain ferguson wrote: >OK, here goes my Fantasy line-up. > >Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Tim Blake, Jerry Richards, Keith >Kniveton, Ron Tree. >( with Martin Griffin, Huw & harvey) coming on to do Living on A Knife Edge, >Rocky Paths & Angels of Death). >With Lee Perry or the Mad Professor on the mixing desk. Plus the astralasia >guys making an awesome dance remix album of the live gig. > >PS. anyone else noticed that hardly anyone has put Nik in their fantasy line >ups . > >Oh and I won't be buying the Nik wind album.. Can't stand his Sax.... > >regards >iain > >"Mr. Dibs" wrote: > >> /surely the present line-up fulfills all your fantasies, but just to enter >> the fray, how about: >> >> Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith Kniveton, >> Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, Rizz, >> Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. >> >> Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is >> currently running. >> >> WELCOME TO THE FUTURE PEOPLE. ONWARDS AND EVER UPWARDS. >> >> MR. D. one has to remember that nik was only in the hawks for a short time, thus his contribution is not as great as some of the more recent members. perhaps this is why hardly anyone includes him in their fantasy line-ups. I reiterate that the only Hawkwind is the current one, and a bloody good job it does too, in the face of continued press indifference. (A review of a collection of old songs doesn't really count, where are the reviews of all the recent shows?) I for one am really looking forward to the next run of shows, c u there. Mr. D. From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Apr 27 08:30:11 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:30:11 -0400 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: WOW.. Metallica's Astronomy on the radio Message-ID: Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > JUST turned on my radio to 103.9 or so in the capital region and that > lovely lovely tune came out of the amps at the start of the first verse no > less! > > I think they did a very nice job, trying to capture the atmospherics of the > ST version and trying to make the vocals as emotive as Deb's... Nice heavy > chorus too.. Hey indeed! Also, its cool how the lead guitar is very > respectful of Buck's style. > > > The radio guy even knew Secret Treaties was the album w/ the original tune. > > Practice makes perfect > Jason > > Jason I couldn't agree more. Metallica's version of Astronomy really captures the feeling of the original. Mike _____________ "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Apr 27 08:26:35 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:26:35 -0500 Subject: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: What is wrong with HARVEY BAINBRIDGE? I think he is brilliant. You've reached your future state, haven't you? STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: ejobson [mailto:ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:18 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy Now we've had best line up and top five albums, how about the reverse. Here's my twopenneth..... Albums (worst) Bring me the Head Zones Sonic Attack Electric Teppee ASAM Line up: Nik Turner (although he does have some qualities or did early on) Keith Hayles - Keyboard Harvey Bainbridge - Bass/keyboard Danny Thompson - Drums Bridgett Whatever? - Screeching Paul Rudolph - Bass Well? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Mr. Dibs Sent: 27 April 2001 06:58 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:46:18 +0100, iain ferguson wrote: >OK, here goes my Fantasy line-up. > >Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Tim Blake, Jerry Richards, Keith >Kniveton, Ron Tree. >( with Martin Griffin, Huw & harvey) coming on to do Living on A Knife Edge, >Rocky Paths & Angels of Death). >With Lee Perry or the Mad Professor on the mixing desk. Plus the astralasia >guys making an awesome dance remix album of the live gig. > >PS. anyone else noticed that hardly anyone has put Nik in their fantasy line >ups . > >Oh and I won't be buying the Nik wind album.. Can't stand his Sax.... > >regards >iain > >"Mr. Dibs" wrote: > >> /surely the present line-up fulfills all your fantasies, but just to enter >> the fray, how about: >> >> Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith Kniveton, >> Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, Rizz, >> Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. >> >> Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is >> currently running. >> >> WELCOME TO THE FUTURE PEOPLE. ONWARDS AND EVER UPWARDS. >> >> MR. D. one has to remember that nik was only in the hawks for a short time, thus his contribution is not as great as some of the more recent members. perhaps this is why hardly anyone includes him in their fantasy line-ups. I reiterate that the only Hawkwind is the current one, and a bloody good job it does too, in the face of continued press indifference. (A review of a collection of old songs doesn't really count, where are the reviews of all the recent shows?) I for one am really looking forward to the next run of shows, c u there. Mr. D. From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Fri Apr 27 08:16:48 2001 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:16:48 +0200 Subject: AW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: Hi >I thought nik was in the hawks for like 8 years >or more ... 1969-1975,1982-84, And therefore 1982-1984 was HAWKWINDs darkest period I really liked Nik during 1969-1976 but later he was only a chaotic punker and HAWKWIND played lot of bad gigs After Nik left, HAWKWIND played one of their best tours (Black Sword). HAWKWIND woke up from a bad dream and are now better than ever before. Long may they fly Bernhard Disclaimer 1. This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. 2. If you as intended recipient have received this e-mail incorrectly, please notify the sender (via e-mail) immediately. This e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. DSM does not guarantee that the information sent and/or received by or with this e-mail is correct and does not accept any liability for damages related thereto. From coral at APORT.RU Fri Apr 27 08:50:28 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:50:28 +0400 Subject: AW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: > And therefore 1982-1984 was HAWKWINDs darkest period > > I really liked Nik during 1969-1976 but later he was only a chaotic punker > and HAWKWIND played lot of bad gigs Agree on that! Only on Stonehenge 84 he seemed to me quite in tune. But his avantegarde jams were good at some point... when they didn't spoil the songs and were just band jamming along with him. > After Nik left, HAWKWIND played one of their best tours (Black Sword). > HAWKWIND woke up from a bad dream and are now better than ever before. Totally agree! Alice From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Fri Apr 27 09:04:06 2001 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:04:06 -0400 Subject: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <55ABA8BDDDEDD111AD1800805FD66D8009A99F29@hermes.marketday.com> Message-ID: I'm still trying to wrap my head around his inclusion of Electric Teepee ... Rob THV On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Stephen Lindas wrote: > What is wrong with HARVEY BAINBRIDGE? I think he is brilliant. You've > reached your future state, haven't you? STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: ejobson [mailto:ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET] > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:18 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy > > > Now we've had best line up and top five albums, how about the reverse. > Here's my twopenneth..... > > Albums (worst) > Bring me the Head > Zones > Sonic Attack > Electric Teppee > ASAM > > Line up: > Nik Turner (although he does have some qualities or did early on) > Keith Hayles - Keyboard > Harvey Bainbridge - Bass/keyboard > Danny Thompson - Drums > Bridgett Whatever? - Screeching > Paul Rudolph - Bass > > Well? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Mr. Dibs > Sent: 27 April 2001 06:58 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy > > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:46:18 +0100, iain ferguson > wrote: > > >OK, here goes my Fantasy line-up. > > > >Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Tim Blake, Jerry Richards, Keith > >Kniveton, Ron Tree. > >( with Martin Griffin, Huw & harvey) coming on to do Living on A Knife > Edge, > >Rocky Paths & Angels of Death). > >With Lee Perry or the Mad Professor on the mixing desk. Plus the astralasia > >guys making an awesome dance remix album of the live gig. > > > >PS. anyone else noticed that hardly anyone has put Nik in their fantasy > line > >ups . > > > >Oh and I won't be buying the Nik wind album.. Can't stand his Sax.... > > > >regards > >iain > > > >"Mr. Dibs" wrote: > > > >> /surely the present line-up fulfills all your fantasies, but just to > enter > >> the fray, how about: > >> > >> Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith > Kniveton, > >> Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, > Rizz, > >> Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. > >> > >> Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is > >> currently running. > >> > >> WELCOME TO THE FUTURE PEOPLE. ONWARDS AND EVER UPWARDS. > >> > >> MR. D. > > one has to remember that nik was only in the hawks for a short time, thus > his contribution is not as great as some of the more recent members. > perhaps this is why hardly anyone includes him in their fantasy line-ups. I > reiterate that the only Hawkwind is the current one, and a bloody good job > it does too, in the face of continued press indifference. (A review of a > collection of old songs doesn't really count, where are the reviews of all > the recent shows?) > I for one am really looking forward to the next run of shows, c u there. > > Mr. D. > Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Apr 27 09:21:27 2001 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:21:27 -0400 Subject: Assault on the Hawks Message-ID: The "Assault of the Hawks" is from a live in the studio recording, not the Reading Festival recording; it has never been released officially but is quite widely available from traders. Regards, COLIN From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Apr 27 09:41:31 2001 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:41:31 +0800 Subject: HW:re spacebrock comments Message-ID: Mark Von Bargen wrote: > I think that everybody needs to put things in context when talking about > the future of this great group and recent and current releases. > > > You have got to remember that Dave & Co have kept this band going for many > years now without a major record deal top back them up. There are also many > other things going on in the background (that I for one don't know enough > to comment about, others will know more than me) that only add to the > pressure. > > Be thankful that there is still creativity there after more than 30 years. > Appreciate the fact that so many care and some of those people are in a > position to do something positive. > > I think that the current line up has tremendous potential (especially with > the help of some excellent guests). People > like Ron, Jerry and Richard have contributed greatly in recent years and it > sounds like they still have so much more to offer. They should not be > dissed in comparison to any individual's favourite previous bassist, > drummer, guitarist, vocalist or whatever. > > People have been in this band and contributed over the years. We should > thank them and respect them for their efforts. Times and moods change as > the years go by. Just look at the way technology moves forward but the > musical landscape changes. When was the last time that you saw Hawkwind > mentioned in a large circulation publication. Just to keep this band going > these days is a great achievement. I thank Dave and everybody else involved > in doing so. > Yes!!!! I agree with this. I wrote something similar the other day...They are planning a world tour next year and usually a tour is accompanied by an album. As mentioned the other day, they do have new songs but haven't found a recording contract as of yet. Cheers Bill From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Fri Apr 27 09:58:52 2001 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (Bryan Young) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:58:52 -0600 Subject: HW:re (OFF) spacebrock comments Message-ID: "You say money doesn't grow on trees, but isn't it made out of paper?" (That's what my teenaged step-son told me when I was angry that he was trying to quit school...) Bryan -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu Date: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:33 AM Subject: Re: HW:re (OFF) spacebrock comments > In thought of what Mark Von Bargen said: > >I HATE MONEY I REEEEELY HATE MONEY (not having it grow on trees >everywhere, where the only work is to pluck handfuls) > From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Apr 27 10:17:21 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:17:21 +0100 Subject: OFF:LP's Message-ID: Hello everybody. I need to get my hand's on two things as soon as possible. Robert Calvert at the Queen Elizabeth Hall and Blueprints from the Cellar. I need both of them on vinal and both in as good a condition as possible. Does anyone know of where I could get these, or does anyone have them for sale? Please please please please, pretty please.please!!!! Layla. From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Apr 27 10:29:45 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:29:45 +0800 Subject: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: And what's wrong with Electric Tepee? Even ASAM is a good album (not fantastic, but not bad either)? I also thought Bridget Wishart was quite good. William > What is wrong with HARVEY BAINBRIDGE? I think he is brilliant. You've > reached your future state, haven't you? STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: ejobson [mailto:ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET] > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:18 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy > > > Now we've had best line up and top five albums, how about the reverse. > Here's my twopenneth..... > > Albums (worst) > Bring me the Head > Zones > Sonic Attack > Electric Teppee > ASAM > > Line up: > Nik Turner (although he does have some qualities or did early on) > Keith Hayles - Keyboard > Harvey Bainbridge - Bass/keyboard > Danny Thompson - Drums > Bridgett Whatever? - Screeching > Paul Rudolph - Bass > > Well? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Mr. Dibs > Sent: 27 April 2001 06:58 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy > > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:46:18 +0100, iain ferguson > wrote: > > >OK, here goes my Fantasy line-up. > > > >Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Tim Blake, Jerry Richards, Keith > >Kniveton, Ron Tree. > >( with Martin Griffin, Huw & harvey) coming on to do Living on A Knife > Edge, > >Rocky Paths & Angels of Death). > >With Lee Perry or the Mad Professor on the mixing desk. Plus the astralasia > >guys making an awesome dance remix album of the live gig. > > > >PS. anyone else noticed that hardly anyone has put Nik in their fantasy > line > >ups . > > > >Oh and I won't be buying the Nik wind album.. Can't stand his Sax.... > > > >regards > >iain > > > >"Mr. Dibs" wrote: > > > >> /surely the present line-up fulfills all your fantasies, but just to > enter > >> the fray, how about: > >> > >> Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith > Kniveton, > >> Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, > Rizz, > >> Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. > >> > >> Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is > >> currently running. > >> > >> WELCOME TO THE FUTURE PEOPLE. ONWARDS AND EVER UPWARDS. > >> > >> MR. D. > > one has to remember that nik was only in the hawks for a short time, thus > his contribution is not as great as some of the more recent members. > perhaps this is why hardly anyone includes him in their fantasy line-ups. I > reiterate that the only Hawkwind is the current one, and a bloody good job > it does too, in the face of continued press indifference. (A review of a > collection of old songs doesn't really count, where are the reviews of all > the recent shows?) > I for one am really looking forward to the next run of shows, c u there. > > Mr. D. > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Apr 27 10:36:10 2001 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:36:10 +0800 Subject: AW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: Hi I agree very much with what you say here. I liked Nik's work an awful lot during his early years in the band as well, & I also loved the Xitintoday album as well as his ICU stuff, but when he came back to the band he was very much out of place in the line-up I feel, & was no longer adding any more creative input (the flute had disappeared, & the sax had become farting noises). He has done some interesting material in recent years, but he doesn't seem to take playing with the Hawks seriously anymore. William > > >I thought nik was in the hawks for like 8 years > >or more ... 1969-1975,1982-84, > > > And therefore 1982-1984 was HAWKWINDs darkest period > > I really liked Nik during 1969-1976 but later he was only a chaotic punker > and HAWKWIND played lot of bad gigs > > After Nik left, HAWKWIND played one of their best tours (Black Sword). > HAWKWIND woke up from a bad dream and are now better than ever before. > > Long may they fly > > > Bernhard > > > Disclaimer > 1. This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If you have received it > by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; > access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone > else is prohibited. > > 2. If you as intended recipient have received this e-mail incorrectly, > please notify the sender (via e-mail) immediately. This e-mail is > confidential and may be legally privileged. DSM does not guarantee that the > information sent and/or received by or with this e-mail is correct and does > not accept any liability for damages related thereto. > From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Fri Apr 27 10:41:40 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:41:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Some Brixton footage on the way, apparently Message-ID: ...from an unlikely source! See http://www.samfox.com/diary.shtml for more! -- Andy www.andygilham.com From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Fri Apr 27 10:47:36 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:47:36 -0400 Subject: gig reminder: SLOTERDIJK, FATHOM & FINALLY BALANCED Message-ID: Just a last reminder regarding this show: Saturaday April 28th (tomorrow) "The Wrong Way Inn", Amityville, Long Island (NY) www.wrongwayinn.com (631) 798-9132 Schedule: Sloterdijk: 9PM Fathom: 10PM Finally Balanced 11PM Tickets $5.00 at the door 21+ to enter Come Rock on Long Island!!!!!! www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Apr 27 10:52:43 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:52:43 -0400 Subject: Great Stonehenge Desktop Theme Message-ID: http://www.topthemes.com/places4.htm#54 From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 27 10:59:17 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:59:17 +0100 Subject: neo-quark Message-ID: I got a message inviting me to join this on Yahoo. Is that something to do with you guys or is it just spam? FoFP From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Apr 27 11:04:19 2001 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:04:19 -0400 Subject: neo-quark Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > I got a message inviting me to join this on Yahoo. Is that something to > do with you guys or is it just spam? > > FoFP > > Neo-Quark is a group for audience recording announcements, trades, trees etc Not spam. Mike -- ___________ Mike Habiby AIM: MSHabiby MSN: MikeH12182 www.geocites.com/mhabiby1 corwyn at nycap.rr.com _____________ "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, goodwill." Winston Churchill From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Apr 27 11:09:15 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:09:15 +0100 Subject: HW:re (OFF) spacebrock comments Message-ID: Well, I've never had any.....wish I had a money tree. I would sell the seeds and make a fortune!!!! Layla. >>> blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM 04/27/01 02:58pm >>> "You say money doesn't grow on trees, but isn't it made out of paper?" (That's what my teenaged step-son told me when I was angry that he was trying to quit school...) Bryan -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu Date: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:33 AM Subject: Re: HW:re (OFF) spacebrock comments > In thought of what Mark Von Bargen said: > >I HATE MONEY I REEEEELY HATE MONEY (not having it grow on trees >everywhere, where the only work is to pluck handfuls) > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 27 11:09:41 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:09:41 +0100 Subject: HW: irc channel In-Reply-To: Rik Rx's message of Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:53:44 -0400 Message-ID: Rik Rx writes: > Hey ! > > Yep Arin is right, if you join the chan and don't get the auro message > either it's a netsplit What's a netsplit Barry. If it's what I'm guessing it is, it's a pretty cool idea. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 27 11:12:20 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:12:20 +0100 Subject: HW: irc channel In-Reply-To: Rik Rx's message of Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:53:44 -0400 Message-ID: Rik Rx writes: > Hey ! > > Yep Arin is right, if you join the chan and don't get the auro message > either it's a netsplit, or Dalnet Chanserv services are down. > Both these situations are temporary, and you can still use the channels > to yak to other people, exchange files, have private chats, plan world > domination, exhange knitting patterns etc... :} > > It would be nice to see more people using the chan regularly Could someone post an idiot's step by step, guide on how to do this for those of us who wouldn't know a chatroom from the inside of the Tardis? Us old-timers use usenet doncha know. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 27 11:19:32 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:19:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Circles In-Reply-To: Douglas Pearson's message of Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:25:34 -0400 Message-ID: Douglas Pearson writes: > On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:19:00 +0100, Steve Litchfield > wrote: > >Can someone with a better ear than mine confirm the identity of the > >drummer on "Circles" (Wierd 3)? I'm not sure I believe the inlay.... > > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the track which is aka "British > Tribal Music", isn't it? Which would make it an outtake from the (no > Calvert?) Brock/Shaw/House/King lineup? >From the Codex: Circles SEE: The Fifth Second of Forever The Fifth Second Of Forever L 1 Weird 103 - Free Festivals {Circles} L 1 Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield {Circles} 2 Levitation 2 That's Original [double] 2 Levitation/ Live '79 CD [Japanese Teichico label] 2 Three Originals 2 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] 2 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] 3 Weird 107 - Dave Brock {Circles} L 4 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic {Circles} L 4 Utopia 1984 {Circles} L 4 Zones/Stonehenge CD {Circles} L 4 Official Picture Logbook {Circles} L 4 The Stonehenge Collection {Circles} From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Apr 27 11:16:10 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:16:10 -0500 Subject: HW: irc channel Message-ID: I didn't realize I was getting email from inside the tardis. That explains the trans-dimensional language. FAR OUT stephe -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:12 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: irc channel Rik Rx writes: > Hey ! > > Yep Arin is right, if you join the chan and don't get the auro message > either it's a netsplit, or Dalnet Chanserv services are down. > Both these situations are temporary, and you can still use the channels > to yak to other people, exchange files, have private chats, plan world > domination, exhange knitting patterns etc... :} > > It would be nice to see more people using the chan regularly Could someone post an idiot's step by step, guide on how to do this for those of us who wouldn't know a chatroom from the inside of the Tardis? Us old-timers use usenet doncha know. FoFP From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Apr 27 11:24:39 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:24:39 -0500 Subject: HW: irc channel In-Reply-To: <200104271512.QAA29565@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, M Holmes wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: irc channel : :Rik Rx writes: : :> Hey ! :> :> Yep Arin is right, if you join the chan and don't get the auro message :> either it's a netsplit, or Dalnet Chanserv services are down. :> Both these situations are temporary, and you can still use the channels :> to yak to other people, exchange files, have private chats, plan world :> domination, exhange knitting patterns etc... :} :> :> It would be nice to see more people using the chan regularly : :Could someone post an idiot's step by step, guide on how to do this for :those of us who wouldn't know a chatroom from the inside of the Tardis? : :Us old-timers use usenet doncha know. I'm working on it. I'll have guides for mirc, ircle, ircii, and one of the java chat clients. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 27 11:47:18 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:47:18 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) In-Reply-To: Colin Allen's message of Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:47:09 -0400 Message-ID: Colin Allen writes: > >From the Morpheus Records website: > > "Furthermore, there is a new, upcoming live album in the works, entitled, > 2001 - A Space (Rock) Odyssey Live, featuring Nik Turner/Thomas Crimble/Huw > Lloyd Langton/Terry Ollis, recorded at the Birkenhead, Merseyside, > Ystalafera and South Wales gigs last year - to be released via Ozit- > Morpheus/Nikt Records; limited edition available at the forthcoming > Blackpool gig! This CD will contain a lavish booklet featuring many rare > photos and superbly spaced-out design!" > > Anyone buying it? I'm up for it. I really enjoyed the Birkenhead gig. Though Nik was a bit out of it a Huw a tad off, Tom and Terry were absolutely excellent. I'd recommend getting this one. Can anyone pick one up for me at Blackpool? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 27 11:50:01 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:50:01 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) In-Reply-To: Douglas Pearson's message of Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:49:39 -0400 Message-ID: Douglas Pearson writes: > > Overall, yes. Parts of it are a *complete* mess (even more so than the > sloppier parts of the Hawkestra event). But there are a few brilliant > moments, too. I've always found the combination of Nik and Huw to be that > way (often a mess, but occasionally brilliant, that is) ... One great moment at Birkenhead was when Nik started singing the wrong lines of Hurry on Sundown. Since he was out of place with Huw, Tom decided to sing out of place with both of them and turned it into one of those "Frere Jacques" things. The weird things was it worked really well. There's a man who can think on his feet... FoFP From Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM Fri Apr 27 12:03:09 2001 From: Lindas at MARKETDAY.COM (Stephen Lindas) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:03:09 -0500 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: I was wondering what was going on. It sounded like they were drunken sailors. HA!HA! STEPHE -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:50 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Douglas Pearson writes: > > Overall, yes. Parts of it are a *complete* mess (even more so than the > sloppier parts of the Hawkestra event). But there are a few brilliant > moments, too. I've always found the combination of Nik and Huw to be that > way (often a mess, but occasionally brilliant, that is) ... One great moment at Birkenhead was when Nik started singing the wrong lines of Hurry on Sundown. Since he was out of place with Huw, Tom decided to sing out of place with both of them and turned it into one of those "Frere Jacques" things. The weird things was it worked really well. There's a man who can think on his feet... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 27 13:43:19 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:43:19 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording: Paging Doctor Brock! In-Reply-To: Stephen Lindas's message of Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:03:09 -0500 Message-ID: Stephen Lindas writes: > One great moment at Birkenhead was when Nik started singing the wrong > lines of Hurry on Sundown. Since he was out of place with Huw, Tom > decided to sing out of place with both of them and turned it into one of > those "Frere Jacques" things. The weird thing was it worked really well. > > There's a man who can think on his feet... > I was wondering what was going on. It sounded like they were drunken > sailors. HA!HA! STEPHE Is it a "canon" they call that musically? Anyway, it worked so well with the verses of Hurry On Sundown that I'd now like to see Brock's crew do this deliberately. Hey Dave, you there? FoFP From christmu at EUNET.NO Fri Apr 27 13:45:41 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:45:41 +0200 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Message-ID: Please sign me up as well! Chr. ----- Original Message ----- From: "david hall" To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway > Count me in too! > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: BL Young > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 24 April 2001 01:48 > Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway > > > >Just a quick note that the Brixton Hawkestra is being distributed -- all 6 > >discs! That includes the 3 cdrs for the Hawkwind set, as well as 3 > >additional cdrs for the following solo sets performed that night: Simon > >House, Tim Blake, & Bedouin. > > > >This is *NOT* a commercial venture, so anybody interested should be able to > >get a set, provided they're willing to buy their own blanks and pay their > >own postage (or set up trades, of course). > > > >For more information, you can join the neo-quark email group (on > >yahoogroups.com). A link can be found to the neo-quark group on the > >following page: http://www.geocities.com/hawklord1999/neoquark.html > > > >What's a neo-quark? It's a "Non-commerical Exchange Of Quality > Unauthorized > >Audio Recordings for Kollectors", and after the Brixton Hawkestra we hope > to > >have a few more exchanges. > > > >The Brixton Hawkestra tree already has Master Branches set up in the > >following locations: > > USA (Eastern) > > USA (Western) > > UK > > Denmark > > Australia > > Canada > > Russia > > > >And finally, if the Hawkestra ever does get a legitimate release, we > >encourage all traders to purchase the authorized item, as without the > rocket > >fuel the spaceship Hawkwind won't fly. > > > >Regards, > > > >Bryan Young > > > From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Apr 27 15:10:42 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:10:42 -0400 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: Iain wrote: >Also anyone seen the Roadhawks Tie Dye top on ebay.. anyone know where this is >from, looks too new to be one from the mid seventies ? I haven't seen the one on ebay, but there was a Roadhawks tie-dye top available from the merchandising stand at gigs about '89 - 90. I didn't get one I thought I looked too old for one even back then! Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Apr 27 15:19:10 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:19:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Circles Message-ID: The drummer on Weird 3 (Watchfield Festival) was Allan Powell. Both Simons King and House didn't turn up to play that gig - I think it was the day after Reading '75. Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Litchfield To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: HW: Circles > Can someone with a better ear than mine confirm the identity of the > drummer on "Circles" (Wierd 3)? I'm not sure I believe the inlay.... > > Steve From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Apr 27 15:20:11 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:20:11 -0400 Subject: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:46:18 +0100, iain ferguson wrote: >PS. anyone else noticed that hardly anyone has put Nik in their fantasy >line ups . He's definitely in mine! Dave Brock - guitar #1, lead/backing vocals, keyboards Nik Turner - sax, flute, lead vocals, poems/recitations Paul Rudolph - guitar #2 (not bass!), backing vocals Simon House - violin Fred Reeves - keyboards, backing vocals Del, Tim, and/or Keith K. - EMS synthesizers (the more the merrier!) Lemmy or Alan Davey - bass #1, lead/backing vocals Adrian Shaw - bass #2, backing vocals Richard Chadwick - drums #1 Simon King or Terry Ollis or Clive Deamer or Al Powell - drums #2 If there's gonna be two bassists, I'd rather see ones with contrasting, rather than similar, styles. Barring that fantasy, the current lineup will do just fine! >With Lee Perry or the Mad Professor on the mixing desk. YES!!! >Plus the astralasia guys making an awesome dance remix album >of the live gig. Uh ... no thanks ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Apr 27 15:41:40 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:41:40 -0400 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:21:17 +0100, Sam Kirwan wrote: >Maybe I'm being sentimental but I do not believe that Hawkwind would be >where they are today without Nik Turner. He is a demigod (which includes >suitably insane) and his mentality has inspired me for 15 years now. Many of my inspirations from the world of rockandroll have been the suitably (or more-than-suitably) insane ... Syd Barrett, Roky Erickson, Arthur Lee, Skip Spence, Sky Saxon, Mitchio Kadotani, Nick Drake, and of course Robert Calvert (actually, compared to most of that crowd, Nik's a Wall Street accountant!). (Although just because someone's crazy doesn't necessarily make them talented or good - case in point Wesley Willis.) >Hawkwind will always need Dave Brock I agree with those who say it's not REALLY Hawkwind without Dave Brock, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying something like the Strange Daze 98 set or a good Nikwind gig. >but without Nik Turner......it just >doesn't bear thinking about - any albums he's not on are as ever, brilliant >but for pure psychedelia - Nik, Nik, Nik. I think that Nik adds something to the band that Dave (by definition - as being bandleader) is unable to: the CHAOS factor. As bandleader, Dave is responsible for keeping it together, and has done so admirably for 30+ years (and hopefully will for years to come). But Hawkwind have always been at their most interesting (IMO) when the forces of chaos are generating creative friction by, in effect, working against the structured leadership ... sort of a combination of gravitational (keeping it together) and centrifugal (flying off into uncharted space) forces. Nik's not the only person who's made that contribution to Hawkwind. Certainly Lemmy, sometimes Harvey, especially Bob, and now Ron, have played a similar role. (That's one of the reasons I think Ron has been a great addition to the band.) A few weeks ago, Arin was asking me why IitBotFtbD is one of my least- favorite Hawkwind albums, and I forgot to give this as one of my reasons. The early-90s trio lineup was certainly talented and creative, but in a small lineup, there's little room for chaos, so I find the CHAOS factor to be somewhat dissapointingly lacking in the albums between 'Space Bandits' and 'Alien4'. >Sorry.... big soft spot for lunatics of this world. ... and the anarchists ... -Doug (who prefers 82-84 HW to 79-81 or 85-88 HW) ceres at sirius.com From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Fri Apr 27 15:58:36 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:58:36 -0400 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: Years ago there was a 'Love & Peace' poster on the wall of my local scout hut. I asked them if I could have it and they said "No!...it might be worth something one day", but they only said it because they new I wanted it so much. Now I think it is probably lost forever. I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY YOU B**TARD SCOUTS!! Alastair. On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:45:54 -0500, John Majka wrote: >Hey, here's a request that will probably go unanswered. Does anyone have a >Hawkwind "Love & Peace" poster in reasonably good shape that you'd like to >sell? Needless to say, I'll pay quite a bit for this item. >John Majka >jmajka2 at home.com From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Fri Apr 27 16:00:11 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:00:11 +0200 Subject: HW: Circles In-Reply-To: <002f01c0cf4e$f0f71fe0$441828d5@starfield> Message-ID: Hi At 20:19 27.04.2001 +0100, you wrote: >The drummer on Weird 3 (Watchfield Festival) was Allan Powell. Both Simons >King and House didn't turn up to play that gig - I think it was the day >after Reading '75. Thats funny. It's exact the name of the CD-R bootleg I have from this show. Its called THE DAY AFTER READING btw: its one of the most unusual gigs HAWKWIND have ever played Bernhard From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Fri Apr 27 16:07:20 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:07:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: Can anyone tell me when this poster dates from or what period of the band it is associated with? Alastair. From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Fri Apr 27 21:10:47 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:10:47 -0400 Subject: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <004c01c0cf26$81c9b240$0dcf3bcb@xl5jji166w6xlq> Message-ID: Sorry guys but it's all about opinions. I only rated Nik early days, Harvey I don't rate as a singer or bassist but actually thought he fitted well into the Hawklords and '79 line ups. Danny, Paul Rudolph and Bridgett, na! Albums, no didn't like Electric Teppee, Bring me the Head or Zones. Sonic Attack and ASAM both had some good songs but as complete albums were dissapointing. Even Dave slated Astounding Sounds. -----Original Message----- From: William Duffy [mailto:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] Sent: 27 April 2001 10:30 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy And what's wrong with Electric Tepee? Even ASAM is a good album (not fantastic, but not bad either)? I also thought Bridget Wishart was quite good. William > What is wrong with HARVEY BAINBRIDGE? I think he is brilliant. You've > reached your future state, haven't you? STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: ejobson [mailto:ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET] > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:18 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy > > > Now we've had best line up and top five albums, how about the reverse. > Here's my twopenneth..... > > Albums (worst) > Bring me the Head > Zones > Sonic Attack > Electric Teppee > ASAM > > Line up: > Nik Turner (although he does have some qualities or did early on) > Keith Hayles - Keyboard > Harvey Bainbridge - Bass/keyboard > Danny Thompson - Drums > Bridgett Whatever? - Screeching > Paul Rudolph - Bass > > Well? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Mr. Dibs > Sent: 27 April 2001 06:58 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy > > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:46:18 +0100, iain ferguson > wrote: > > >OK, here goes my Fantasy line-up. > > > >Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Tim Blake, Jerry Richards, Keith > >Kniveton, Ron Tree. > >( with Martin Griffin, Huw & harvey) coming on to do Living on A Knife > Edge, > >Rocky Paths & Angels of Death). > >With Lee Perry or the Mad Professor on the mixing desk. Plus the astralasia > >guys making an awesome dance remix album of the live gig. > > > >PS. anyone else noticed that hardly anyone has put Nik in their fantasy > line > >ups . > > > >Oh and I won't be buying the Nik wind album.. Can't stand his Sax.... > > > >regards > >iain > > > >"Mr. Dibs" wrote: > > > >> /surely the present line-up fulfills all your fantasies, but just to > enter > >> the fray, how about: > >> > >> Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith > Kniveton, > >> Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, > Rizz, > >> Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. > >> > >> Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is > >> currently running. > >> > >> WELCOME TO THE FUTURE PEOPLE. ONWARDS AND EVER UPWARDS. > >> > >> MR. D. > > one has to remember that nik was only in the hawks for a short time, thus > his contribution is not as great as some of the more recent members. > perhaps this is why hardly anyone includes him in their fantasy line-ups. I > reiterate that the only Hawkwind is the current one, and a bloody good job > it does too, in the face of continued press indifference. (A review of a > collection of old songs doesn't really count, where are the reviews of all > the recent shows?) > I for one am really looking forward to the next run of shows, c u there. > > Mr. D. > From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Fri Apr 27 16:28:45 2001 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:28:45 +0200 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... In-Reply-To: <200104272007.QAA28482@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi At 16:07 27.04.2001 -0400, you wrote: >Can anyone tell me when this poster dates from or what period of the band >it is associated with? I suppose its from 1971 Bernhard From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Fri Apr 27 16:39:26 2001 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:39:26 -0500 Subject: Nik thoughts Message-ID: It disappoints me to see Nik have these perceptions attached to him, although I certainly understand how/why. Nik is the spirit of HW, but Dave is THE MAN I think we all agree. In that context, my take is this. Nik latched on to the nihilistic punk thing from the beginning. When he came back in '82, he did not fit into HW with that mindset. It seemed to me he intentionally went against the grain musically and with his relationship with other members of the band. If MotU was being played in "E", its as if Nik would drop a his sax down a half step to rub everyone the wrong way. His shanigans on the stage turned some off forever. I think many bridges we torched during this era, most important of all the one with Dave. In retrospect it was a mistake for Nik to rejoin HW at this point in time. But Nik eventually grew out of that "phase", by '95 when he did the Space Ritual 95 tour with Helios Creed and Tommy Greanas some punk elements were left, but the space/psych was coming back. The US tour the next year was even better, the punkish attitude was gone and some great space rock was created. In '97 when Nik played with Farflung at Strange Daze I though they were awesome. If you've never heard this show, you should. For me, on that night, I enjoyed them as much as any HW show of the '97 US tour (I saw them all). It seemed to me Nik had come full circle, recognizing his true home (spacerock) and left the "fuck it shtick" behind. I do think he cares if the fans are entertained and is willing to work hard to pull it off. Some of these recent gigs with ex-hawks sound more like an informal jam at a party, than a professional concert. I don't judge Nik or anybody at those gig as an indication of what they can do musically. Nik seems to be stuck in "one off" purgatory at the present. I wish he would get in a real band full time (you know *practice*, puts out CDs, tour). Its my impression he's back to his old self (like when he was young in the early '70's). :-) He seems to be a born-again space rocker. Nik has done most of this to himself, but it seems he has been sent out into the dessert for good. I wish Dave would reconsider. Didn't Lemmy say some crack about Nik during the Brixton gig? Whats the deal, is he still pissed about being sacked all those years ago? >one has to remember that nik was only in the hawks for a short time, thus >his contribution is not as great as some of the more recent members. ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ Huh? Before we revise history could you give examples? Alan Davey and ....I guess Chadwick to a certain extent. > And therefore 1982-1984 was HAWKWINDs darkest period Maybe, but couldn't we find an equally "dark' period in the 90's? For me the MIDI/sequencer automations that replaced exiting band members was somewhat of a lull. More people, more analog synths the better for my tastes. > I really liked Nik during 1969-1976 but later he was only a > chaotic punker > and HAWKWIND played lot of bad gigs Very true, the tapes don't lie, not all bad though. > After Nik left, HAWKWIND played one of their best tours (Black Sword). > HAWKWIND woke up from a bad dream and are now better than ever > before. For me this was their Spinal Tap period, cheesy 80's metal without the big hair, a bad dream indeed. I agree, as far as live shows, HW hasn't sounded so good since the late 70's as they do now. Hey, wasn't Nik involved in some of the early development of Chronicles? Before he was sacked of course. My fantasy HW lineup: Dave AND Nik Simon House (also playing synth!) Lemmy Richard Chadwick -- Doug Bates From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 27 16:56:38 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:56:38 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 4/21 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck 4/21 1.Quarkspace-- "Spring Equinox '97" (Spacefolds 3; Eternity's Jest Records) 2.Anubian Lights-- "Information" (Live w/Nik Turner; thanks to JimFinity; Strange Trips Records) 3.Saturnia-- "Borealis" (II) 4.Rollerball-- "Butter Fairy" (Trail of the Butter Yeti; Road Cone Records) 5.Frank Zappa/Mothers-- "Help I'm a Rock/Transylvania Boogie" (Ahead of Their Time; Rykodisc Records) 6.Hawkwind-- "Black Sun" (Quark Strangeness & Charm EP; EBS Records) 7.Third Eye Foundation-- "I'm Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired" (You Guys Kill Me; Merge Records) 8.Sundial-- "Plains of Nazca" (Other Way Out; UFO Records) 9.Harvey Bainbridge-- "Dream Worker" (Live CD-R; thanks to Bill K) 10.Avey Tare and Panda Bear-- "Chocolate Girl" (Spirit They're Gone Spirit They've Vanished; Animal Records) 11.Farflung-- "Gleam" (The Belief Module; Bad Acid Records) 12.Gong-- "You Can't Kill Me/Zero the Hero and the Witch's Spell" (Live, etc; Virgin Records) 13.Deep Purple-- "No One Came" (Fireball; Warner Bros) thanks, Chuck From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Apr 27 18:15:02 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:15:02 -0600 Subject: Nik thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nik is great isn't he...???. all the gaga about him is a total joke,,,, but I do wish he'd get a hippy (or is that hippie) "wig"...become REALLY LAID back...turn up at Daves with a bunch of something Dave likes (whatever that may be)......and "throw the lever into reverse gear".... Chronoglide Skyway just wouldn't bend time without Niks touch.... God he is..... mc From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 27 17:40:41 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:40:41 EDT Subject: re spacebrock comments Message-ID: In a message dated 4/27/01 5:07:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, markcotton22 at HOTMAIL.COM writes: > Right now I'm going through a heavy electronic phase, which > has led me onto 'Church of Hawkwind', 'IITBOTFTBD' amongst others. Then > there is 'Vegas' and 'Going to Hawaii', surely two of the finest 'drifting' > tracks ever written. > You mean "Vega" from LiS, I guess. Big difference. :) Agreed, though! That and "Mists of Meridin". Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 27 17:45:09 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:45:09 EDT Subject: HW: More Nik Message-ID: In a message dated 4/27/01 5:21:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET writes: > Line up: > Nik Turner (although he does have some qualities or did early on) I think he handles the sax and flute quite well on his '90s Space Ritual tours! The playing is far more fluid and "traditional" than the old HW albums where you couldn't even tell what instrument (or animal) it was that he was strangling--not that i didn't like that stuff... maybe it's that '80s stint w/HW that leaves a bad taste, but he more than made up for the shoddier parts w/his solo stuff in the '90s (whether you consider the tours ethical or not). Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 27 17:48:50 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:48:50 EDT Subject: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: In a message dated 4/27/01 5:21:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET writes: on "worst line-ups"... > Harvey Bainbridge - Bass/keyboard I'm a little confused when i see Harvey bashed for his bass-playing. I'm not one to no anything about bass-guitar virtuosity really, but "Free Fall" sounds to me like some of the more challenging bass heard on any HW album. I've also always loved his synth/kybds, though I can't always distinguish between him and Dave... Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 27 17:54:30 2001 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:54:30 EDT Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: In a message dated 4/27/01 6:02:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, vincentr at COGNOS.COM writes: > I'm still trying to wrap my head around his inclusion of Electric Teepee > ... > > Rob THV Not me!! :) Eddie and I are on the same page there. Chuck From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Fri Apr 27 17:59:26 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:59:26 -0400 Subject: Nik thoughts Message-ID: Whatever people say, he is a great entertainer. Inner City Unit gigs had some of the best atmospheres I have ever experienced. Alastair. On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:15:02 -0600, mike coleman wrote: > Nik is great isn't he...???. > >all the gaga about him is a total joke,,,, > > >but I do wish he'd get a hippy (or is that hippie) "wig"...become REALLY >LAID back...turn up at Daves with a bunch of something Dave likes (whatever >that may be)......and "throw the lever into reverse gear".... > >Chronoglide Skyway just wouldn't bend time without Niks touch.... > >God he is..... > >mc From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Apr 27 19:06:06 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:06:06 -0600 Subject: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Harvey's bass playing was great....anyone who says different is walking around with a corn cobb up their ass... their bass playing is probably REEEELY lame.....they probably just copy Def Leppard (nothing against them folks..I'd buy them drinks) runs, while squeezed into polka-dot spandex, and chewing bubble gum...wishing it was 1983 again.... *** From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Apr 27 18:13:37 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:13:37 -0500 Subject: HW: codex Message-ID: Hey... Mike, Jill -- is the codex up on a web page somewhere? (ie. do you have an "official" place where I can snarf an up to date copy of it?) Thanks! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Apr 27 18:51:48 2001 From: Tigger at PUDDYTAT.FSNET.CO.UK (Tigger) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:51:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... In-Reply-To: <200104272028.WAA16389@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: In article <200104272028.WAA16389 at mail.home.ins.de>, Bernhard Pospiech writes >Hi > >At 16:07 27.04.2001 -0400, you wrote: >>Can anyone tell me when this poster dates from or what period of the band >>it is associated with? > > >I suppose its from 1971 it was still available on the 77 tour -- David Blair From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Apr 27 22:14:36 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 03:14:36 +0100 Subject: HW: More Nik In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Uncle Nik's copped some flak here lately: like most everyone else I wish he wouldn't use the Hawkwind name, and while I haven't heard his recent albums it seems he's repeatedly recycling the same (mostly HW) material. However the fact remains that he had a massive role in Hawkwind: he was there from the start, he had a lot to do with the identity of the band from its earliest days. He was largely responsible for getting Bob Calvert involved, and he wrote or co-wrote some classic material. (Brainstorm, Master of the Universe, Shouldn't Do That, D-Rider). Personally I like a punky edge, and ICU were one of the coolest bands on the block in the early 80s. Hawkwind have always been an underground, anti-establishment type band, and punk was, at least in part, where the rebel-music scene was at in those days. Calvert understood this too, and a dash of punkishness helped keep HW afloat in the late 70s and early 80s IMHO. Nik was also very involved in the Stonehenge festivals which did so much to define the spirit and ethos of Hawkwind. I agree he seems slapdash at times (definitely at Hawkestra) and I'm sure he's not the easiest guy to work with. And Jez Huggett is a better sax player. And Dave is the undisputed captain of the ship and we all love and revere him for it. But Nik Turner is Nik Turner, and that counts for something at least. -- Nick Medford From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Fri Apr 27 22:32:57 2001 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 03:32:57 +0100 Subject: HW: More Nik Message-ID: Up late Nick! Nick Medford wrote: > Uncle Nik's copped some flak here lately: like most everyone else I wish he > wouldn't use the Hawkwind name, and while I haven't heard his recent > albums it seems he's repeatedly recycling the same (mostly HW) material. > > However the fact remains that he had a massive role in Hawkwind: he was > there from the start, he had a lot to do with the identity of the band from > its earliest days. He was largely responsible for getting Bob Calvert involved, > and he wrote or co-wrote some classic material. (Brainstorm, Master of the > Universe, Shouldn't Do That, D-Rider). > > Personally I like a punky edge, and ICU were one of the coolest bands on > the block in the early 80s. Hawkwind have always been an underground, > anti-establishment type band, and punk was, at least in part, where the > rebel-music scene was at in those days. Calvert understood this too, and a > dash of punkishness helped keep HW afloat in the late 70s and early 80s > IMHO. > > Nik was also very involved in the Stonehenge festivals which did so much > to define the spirit and ethos of Hawkwind. > > I agree he seems slapdash at times (definitely at Hawkestra) and I'm sure he's > not the easiest guy to work with. And Jez Huggett is a better sax player. > And Dave is the undisputed captain of the ship and we all love and revere > him for it. But Nik Turner is Nik Turner, and that counts for something at > least. > -- > Nick Medford From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Apr 28 04:32:27 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:02:27 +0930 Subject: Andy G & Aliens Dreaming Message-ID: Are you all aware that you can get yourselves a copy of ALIEN DREAM from Andy G?? It has been reviewed as "Superb Instrumental Space Rock/Psychedelic" and is nicely priced to boot!!! If there are any queries you can contact Andy G @ andygee at dial.pipex.com or me @ michaelangelo68 at ozemail.com.au or even check out the ALIEN DREAM web page !@ http://www.ozemail.com.au/~michaelangelo68/Html/Alien_Dream/Alien_Dream_Inde x.htm Cheers - ski doods Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 6:24 PM Subject: Re: spacebrock > Michael W Blackman > > Andy G certainly delivers - and is fast too! > > I hang my head in shame.... > > Bill From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Apr 28 05:02:42 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:32:42 +0930 Subject: HW: irc channel Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Rx To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 4:23 AM Subject: Re: HW: irc channel > Hey ! > > Yep Arin is right, if you join the chan and don't get the auro message > either it's a netsplit, or Dalnet Chanserv services are down. > Both these situations are temporary, and you can still use the channels > to yak to other people, exchange files, have private chats, plan world > domination, exhange knitting patterns etc... :} My knitting patterns are all patented and copyrighted 8>} so sorry there but I COULD tell you all about my wonderful self and Australia, kangaroos, lizards and I even have a neat little poem dedicated to the *sloth - a truly interesting lifeform or maybe not? > It would be nice to see more people using the chan regularly, as at the > moment there is either loads of people or no-one in there. Maybe another > band session sometime soon will encourage a few more people in there.... Looking forward to another Band chat - and will prepare in advance with some truly intelligent & interesting qustionsss > Details of the IRC Channel, and an edit of the Band's first online session > are on Mission Control Updates Page (www.hawkwind.org.uk) > > Rx > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Apr 28 05:10:23 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:40:23 +0930 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: agreeed! Hawkwind without Dave Brock would be like a McDonalds Quarter pounder made with spam All the elements are there - but what the F is this spam doing in my burger - SPAM??? Hopefully no offence to other members of the band as I dig you all - Hawkwind is is the sum of its Parts - and you rock!! Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Melvyn Vincent To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:59 AM Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > Not me either! > I'd only purchase the REAL thing! ( Sorry Nik....but if there's no Dave > Brock...then I'm afraid it just aint Hawkwind! Hawkwind without Brock is > like a Rolls Royce Car being driven by the engine from a Ford Escort!) Ha > ha..... > > mel From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Apr 28 05:16:24 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:46:24 +0930 Subject: HW and CDS Message-ID: Koooool!! ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 7:26 AM Subject: Re: HW and CDS > Oh - forgot to add to you and everyone else - the new catalogue (with your > CD reviewed in it Michael) is running late due to the prog-rock catalogue > preceeding it running late, due to a major last minute review for, of all > things, an ultra bargain price Yes tribute album!!! > The wild and wonderul world of CD Services!!! > Next week for definite for the catalogue, sports fans. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Apr 28 05:18:47 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:48:47 +0930 Subject: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: > Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith Kniveton, > Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, Rizz, > Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. AND ME ME ME :} Thats the ticket > Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is > currently running. > YO!!! From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Apr 28 05:20:38 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:50:38 +0930 Subject: come chat Message-ID: Sorry - only just now checked my emails :( been so busy with organising our gig today Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 9:09 AM Subject: come chat > hey...if anyone is around, come chat. > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Apr 28 05:21:31 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:51:31 +0930 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: Does anyone have a jpg of this poster so I can see what my wall / HAWKWIND shrine is missing Mb ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 9:15 AM Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... > Hey, here's a request that will probably go unanswered. Does anyone have a > Hawkwind "Love & Peace" poster in reasonably good shape that you'd like to > sell? Needless to say, I'll pay quite a bit for this item. > John Majka > jmajka2 at home.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Apr 28 05:29:46 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:59:46 +0930 Subject: HW:re (OFF) spacebrock comments Message-ID: Peace!! Feel the gentle warmth of peace settle around you like the first rays of a full moon! ----- Original Message ----- From: mike coleman To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 6:17 PM Subject: Re: HW:re (OFF) spacebrock comments > In thought of what Mark Von Bargen said: > > I HATE MONEY I REEEEELY HATE MONEY (not having it grow on trees > everywhere, where the only work is to pluck handfuls) > > you need a "loaner hawkwind fix"?? > > alternately....I manage to "sponge" cash to buy all Hawkwind, but my life > is an atrophied disaster of a timebomb just waiting to collapse totally > into hundreds of little pieces..... > > so if YOUR life is full (family, health, wife, future, career, etc) > consider the other down..... > > greedy material collecters with bad Karma..... > > having just a normal life seems so impossible for me to have..... > > I am TRULY envious of all, just REGULAR, NORMAL, people surviving... > > Mike Coleman > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Apr 28 06:32:14 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Party Crasher) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:32:14 -0600 Subject: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <00f401c0cfc4$3b55eb00$a1cd223f@michaelangelo68> Message-ID: If Dave's not around, I'm jumping straight on whoever is flying the ship..... I think being in the band with Dave should be the HIGHEST HONOR,,,,but I think if Dave isn't there, the crown goes on Richard,Alan, Ron, Jerry, etc.....and I will still be calling all over England buying up all the cool sh*t....... it's ALL GOOD! they're all good....everyone has earned STATUS......everyone should feel "better than happy"..... mc ******************************************************************************** Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith Kniveton, Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, Rizz, Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. AND ME ME ME :} Thats the ticket Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is currently running. From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Sat Apr 28 05:33:14 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:33:14 +0100 Subject: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Bootifully said Sam -----Original Message----- From: Party Crasher [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: 28 April 2001 11:32 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy If Dave's not around, I'm jumping straight on whoever is flying the ship..... I think being in the band with Dave should be the HIGHEST HONOR,,,,but I think if Dave isn't there, the crown goes on Richard,Alan, Ron, Jerry, etc.....and I will still be calling all over England buying up all the cool sh*t....... it's ALL GOOD! they're all good....everyone has earned STATUS......everyone should feel "better than happy"..... mc **************************************************************************** **** Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith Kniveton, Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, Rizz, Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. AND ME ME ME :} Thats the ticket Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is currently running. *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Apr 28 05:42:35 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 19:12:35 +0930 Subject: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: tee hee hee ----- Original Message ----- From: mike coleman To: Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 8:36 AM Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy > Harvey's bass playing was great....anyone who says different is walking > around with a corn cobb up their ass... > > their bass playing is probably REEEELY lame.....they probably just copy Def > Leppard (nothing against them folks..I'd buy them drinks) runs, while > squeezed into polka-dot spandex, and chewing bubble gum...wishing it was > 1983 again.... > *** From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Apr 28 05:46:04 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:46:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: I remember Trevor Huges had a shed load of posters including Love & Peace in the mid '80's - I seem to remember the others being Moorcocks New Worlds Fayre (nice), Astounding Sounds and Roadhawks (different to the UA album release). I eneded up with all four in exchange for some newscuttings I sent him. Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tigger To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:51 PM Subject: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... > In article <200104272028.WAA16389 at mail.home.ins.de>, Bernhard Pospiech > writes > >Hi > > > >At 16:07 27.04.2001 -0400, you wrote: > >>Can anyone tell me when this poster dates from or what period of the band > >>it is associated with? > > > > > >I suppose its from 1971 > > it was still available on the 77 tour > > -- > David Blair From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Apr 28 06:17:21 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 19:47:21 +0930 Subject: 3 BIG BIG cheers for Captain Bl@ck Message-ID: This email is dedicated to an awesomly COOOOOL DUUUDE!!! and I am SERIOUS folks!!! Cap'n Bl at ck very very graciously & kindly made up some very COOL SYNTHI tracks, then emailed them to me so I could mix them in with a song we performed today titled MILLION MILES FROM HOLLYWOOD and it went off - it sounded beautiful - it was damn fine!!!!!!!!!!!! Most people there, if not all, had never heard the wonderous sound of a synthi before and the response was awesome!!! So to Cap'n Bl at ck I say; You are indeed a legend!! And a full knight of the round table in my books! Three Cheers for Cap'n Bl at ck!!! Just finished our geroovy FREE outdoor concert today (exuasted now) Goodnight Michael 'DALETH' Blackman From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sat Apr 28 09:02:20 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 09:02:20 -0400 Subject: HW Hawkfest. Message-ID: No doubt many of you will have got the same message from Judge Trev regarding CDs etc, but I also see he is playing the Hamburg Hawkfest with a new band (don't ask what they're called!) including Ron Tree. Is Ron just doing this as a side project ( like Jerry and Star Nation)? I sure hope so as I'd hate to see him leave HW. Captain Black? Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Apr 28 09:17:06 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:17:06 +0100 Subject: HW Hawkfest. Message-ID: To the best of my knowledge, Ron is involved in several projects away from HW, but is still committed to the mothership. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Crook To: Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: Re: HW Hawkfest. > No doubt many of you will have got the same message from Judge Trev regarding CDs etc, but I also see he is playing the Hamburg Hawkfest with a new band (don't ask what they're called!) including Ron Tree. Is Ron just doing this as a side project ( like Jerry and Star Nation)? I sure hope so as I'd hate to see him leave HW. Captain Black? > > Mick > > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Apr 28 10:22:56 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Poopie) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:22:56 -0600 Subject: HW Hawkfest. In-Reply-To: <20010428125936.IZRZ14131.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> Message-ID: WHAT A TEAM!!!!!!! JEEEEEZ I am REAL JEALOUS TREV DIDN'T MAIL ME!!!!! now I'll have to email some bad porno on him....(err somin).....maybe because I am stateside???? tears in Texas ****************************************************************************** >No doubt many of you will have got the same message from Judge Trev >regarding CDs etc, but I also see he is playing the Hamburg Hawkfest with >a new band (don't ask what they're called!) including Ron Tree. Is Ron >just doing this as a side project ( like Jerry and Star Nation)? I sure >hope so as I'd hate to see him leave HW. Captain Black? > >Mick > > >-------------------- >talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at >http://www.talk21.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sat Apr 28 14:47:30 2001 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:47:30 BST Subject: HW Hawkfest. Message-ID: Cheers Captain B' That good to know!! Mick > To the best of my knowledge, Ron is involved in several projects away from >HW, but is still committed to the mothership. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Michael Crook >To: >Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 2:02 PM >Subject: Re: HW Hawkfest. > > > No doubt many of you will have got the same message from Judge Trev >regarding CDs etc, but I also see he is playing the Hamburg Hawkfest with a >new band (don't ask what they're called!) including Ron Tree. Is Ron just >doing this as a side project ( like Jerry and Star Nation)? I sure hope so >as I'd hate to see him leave HW. Captain Black? > > Mick > > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at >http://www.talk21.com May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Apr 28 09:54:13 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:54:13 +0100 Subject: HW: More Nik In-Reply-To: <3AEA2BD9.9663E9EF@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: In message <3AEA2BD9.9663E9EF at netscapeonline.co.uk>, linuxchaos writes >Up late Nick! These attacks on Uncle Nik are causing me sleepless nights! Actually I was at work (hospital). -- Nick Medford From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Apr 28 10:36:35 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:36:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Dave & Kris Message-ID: Count me in too - no burner tho', I'm afraid. Nick From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Apr 28 10:46:28 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:46:28 EDT Subject: HW: Some Brixton footage on the way, apparently Message-ID: Now this was professionally filmed? What is the chance of the Hawks releasing something if Sam Fox can? What the hell is going on here? We have to buy a Sam Fox cd? ........ that hurts...can some one burn me a copy? of the video cd-rom part that is. bob In a message dated 4/27/01 7:42:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, email at ANDYGILHAM.COM writes: > ...from an unlikely source! See > > http://www.samfox.com/diary.shtml > > for more! > > -- Andy Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Apr 28 10:55:16 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:55:16 +0100 Subject: OFF:LP's Message-ID: >Hello everybody. > >I need to get my hand's on two things as soon as possible. > >Robert Calvert at the Queen Elizabeth Hall and >Blueprints from the Cellar. > >I need both of them on vinal and both in as good a condition as possible. Does anyone know of where I could get these, or does anyone have them for sale? > >Please please please please, pretty please.please!!!! > > >Layla. Bad news here I'm afraid, Layla. Blueprints From The Cellar was a CD only release compiled from Bob's privately released Cellar Tapes. Live At The QE Hall was a very limited run on vinyl (came with free t-shirt, poster and badge) that I'm told is very hard to come by. I got mine mail order on release but sorry, it ain't for sale. I think both are now deleted, or at least very hard to come by, on CD so I would feel too bad about taping them for you. Nick From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Apr 28 11:06:10 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:06:10 EDT Subject: OFF:LP's Message-ID: In a message dated 4/28/01 11:01:00 AM, nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET writes: << so I would feel too bad about taping them for you. >> == did you mean 'would' or 'wouldnt' ? "<>" From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Apr 28 11:08:37 2001 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:08:37 +0100 Subject: OFF:LP's Message-ID: << so I would feel too bad about taping them for you. >> == did you mean 'would' or 'wouldnt' ? "<>" Ah, I meant 'wouldn't'. Nick From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat Apr 28 11:19:52 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:19:52 +0100 Subject: HW: codex In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:13:37 -0500 Message-ID: Arin Komins writes: > Hey... > > Mike, Jill -- is the codex up on a web page somewhere? (ie. do you have > an "official" place where I can snarf an up to date copy of it?) I don't. I've generally left it to others to mount. Hopefully there'll be a new version soon... FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Apr 28 12:22:03 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Poopie) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:22:03 -0600 Subject: OFF:LP's In-Reply-To: <103.268e2ef.281c3662@aol.com> Message-ID: Layla ...Don't worry...I'll save you..... archdemon From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Apr 28 12:11:34 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:11:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: Indeed! I bought two copies on the 79 tour (I think I have them somewhere) along with a Hawklords live poster. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Tigger To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 27 April 2001 23:53 Subject: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... >In article <200104272028.WAA16389 at mail.home.ins.de>, Bernhard Pospiech > writes >>Hi >> >>At 16:07 27.04.2001 -0400, you wrote: >>>Can anyone tell me when this poster dates from or what period of the band >>>it is associated with? >> >> >>I suppose its from 1971 > >it was still available on the 77 tour > >-- >David Blair > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Apr 28 12:14:44 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:14:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: I remember this too. The ASAM poster nice, and Moorcock. The B and W Barney Bubbles posters are brilliant - the real Doremi vibe. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Captain Bl at ck To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 28 April 2001 10:46 Subject: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... >I remember Trevor Huges had a shed load of posters including Love & Peace in >the mid '80's - I seem to remember the others being Moorcocks New Worlds >Fayre (nice), Astounding Sounds and Roadhawks (different to the UA album >release). I eneded up with all four in exchange for some newscuttings I >sent him. > >Captain Bl at ck. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Tigger >To: >Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:51 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... > > >> In article <200104272028.WAA16389 at mail.home.ins.de>, Bernhard Pospiech >> writes >> >Hi >> > >> >At 16:07 27.04.2001 -0400, you wrote: >> >>Can anyone tell me when this poster dates from or what period of the >band >> >>it is associated with? >> > >> > >> >I suppose its from 1971 >> >> it was still available on the 77 tour >> >> -- >> David Blair > From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sat Apr 28 11:55:34 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:55:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Some Brixton footage on the way, apparently In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Now this was professionally filmed? What is the chance of the > Hawks releasing > something if Sam Fox can? What the hell is going on here? We > have to buy a > Sam Fox cd? ........ that hurts...can some one burn me a copy? of > the video > cd-rom part that is. You know just as much as I do... Looks like kollektors are just going to have to grin and bear it, and buy a Sam Fox album ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Apr 28 12:55:50 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:55:50 EDT Subject: HW: Some Brixton footage on the way, apparently Message-ID: You grim reaper of cheesy cd news! well, as long as there are some juicy pics on the cd-rom.... bob In a message dated 4/28/01 8:56:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, email at ANDYGILHAM.COM writes: > You know just as much as I do... Looks like kollektors are just going to > have to grin and bear it, and buy a Sam Fox album ;) > > -- Andy Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Apr 28 14:14:13 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Dog Poodie) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:14:13 -0600 Subject: HW: Some Brixton footage on the way, apparently In-Reply-To: Message-ID: bob's thoughts: You grim reaper of cheesy cd news! well, as long as there are some juicy pics on the cd-rom.... ******************************************************************************** part of the deal in letting Sam release anything Hawkestra, should be that a limited edition is made with excerpts from Lemmy's porno that I was never bold enough to see/or wanted to be...but ah what the hey....OR there should be Lemmy/Sam Fox "behind the scenes", and "unbridled" footage...... Dave receiving heavy royalties, of course...... ******************************************************************************** From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Sat Apr 28 15:13:37 2001 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:13:37 -0400 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: On the subject of posters, I recently saw a tour poster with the 'Space Ritual' logo on it and it was said to be very rare. Am I right in saying that there were posters for sale during one of the tours in the early 90s that used the 'Space Ritual' logo and showed the tour dates on them? I vaguely remember them but I'm not sure if I'm imagining it. Regards, Alastair. From lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK Sat Apr 28 20:45:37 2001 From: lthompson3 at UCLAN.AC.UK (Layla Thompson) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 01:45:37 +0100 Subject: OFF:LP's Message-ID: I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed it on LP...... I have them both on tape already......a fella that I work with has bob at the QE hall on LP, he can't stand Hawkwind, but he won't sell it to me. It's cause he was working with Bob and the record company shortly before he died, and that's how he got it........ But I think that an album never listened to is like a book never read, and a toy that's never been played with......it's just sad!!! Oh well..... Well, I think that they should release Blue prints from the cellar on LP...... it's only right!!!! ( do you think they would...if I asked nicely?.....or with brute force..?) Layla. >>> nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET 04/28/01 04:08pm >>> << so I would feel too bad about taping them for you. >> == did you mean 'would' or 'wouldnt' ? "<>" Ah, I meant 'wouldn't'. Nick From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Apr 28 22:51:36 2001 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 03:51:36 +0100 Subject: OFF:Spacehead at Leeds Irish Centre Message-ID: Saw Spacehead at Leeds on the recent Hawktour, thought they were excellent. Their sound has come on in leaps and bounds. Did anyone get a recording? Would love to have one. Thought the Hawks were brilliant, high energy, high octane, lot's of fun. You'd Better Believe It, magic moment. K o C From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Apr 29 01:21:08 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Mike C) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:21:08 -0600 Subject: OFF:LP's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: layla said: "Well, I think that they should release Blue prints from the cellar on LP...... it's only right!!!! ( do you think they would...if I asked nicely?.....or with brute force..?)" ******************************************************************************** hello "sweet petunia".......now that you put it like "That"!!!!! I am going to be locked in my room with Farflung 45's +CD's and beer.... If you see this, want to mail me, I'll emerge half drunk to look for you.... I'm UP AGAIN... mc ps..sure wish I had a Judge Trev/Ron Tree CD......... From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sun Apr 29 03:43:19 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 03:43:19 -0400 Subject: Sloterdijk: setlist 4/28, Amityville Long Island (New York) Message-ID: Time to get to bed before the birds start chirping..What a day, sideswiped in Brooklyn and all; but we made it to Amityville. The Wrong Way Inn was a cool place. Next time I want to see the beach..Cheers, MIke setlist: The Thunderbirds Integration Uranium Zone Golden Void>Fred Goldman's Mustache Iron Lung www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Sun Apr 29 07:39:43 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 12:39:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind stuff for sale Message-ID: I've decided to flog a load of my old Hawkwind stuff. See anything you like, make me an offer... http://www.andygilham.com/hawkwindsale.html -- Andy www.andygilham.com From coral at APORT.RU Sun Apr 29 08:19:04 2001 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alissa) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:19:04 +0400 Subject: HW: urgent! the question about XC, SB, EC remasters Message-ID: Hello! I've got opportunity to order remasters of Space Bandits, Xenon Codex, Electric Tepee on small price. Do they differ from the originals, are the worth ordering? thanks, Alice From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Apr 27 14:59:46 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:59:46 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: consider it done Andy G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:22 AM Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > Put me down for a copy then please! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:17 PM > Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > > > I have to chip in here. > > CD Services WILL have this in stock before the gig so we are told and so > it > > will be in the catalogue next week. > > However, I hear from people I am in contact with that there is some murky > > politics going on right now between the Brock and Turner camps which I > don't > > want to get involved with in any way, shape or form. > > CDS have been offered a sales stand at the Tuner all-dayer thing, which we > > are considering but have NOT confirmed, and are also considering a stand > at > > the real Hawkwind's Canterbury gig, trying to treat all this from a > > retailer's point of view only (as UK outlet for all things space-rock and > > psych) without taking sides. We do not want to be a 'pig in the middle' of > > anything that may or may not be 'in dispute'.. > > Andy Garibaldi > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colin Allen" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:54 PM > > Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > > > > > > Agreed, it sems wrong not to buy it almost! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Douglas Pearson" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:49 PM > > > Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 21:32:26 +0100, Colin Allen > > > > wrote: > > > > >I will probably buy it: I have a boot recording of the Welsh show ... > > > > > > > > Good point, Colin. IMO it would be hypocritical to possess a boot > > > > recording of a show and then not purchase the recording if released > > > > officially in a way that benefits the musicians involved (wasn't there > > > just > > > > a thread on this?). Unless, of course, you've already sent a direct > > > > payment to said musicians (censored personal anecdote regarding Weird > > CD's > > > > goes here). So I'll definitely be buying a copy eventually ... > > > > > > > > > ... and it isn't too bad! > > > > > > > > Overall, yes. Parts of it are a *complete* mess (even more so than > the > > > > sloppier parts of the Hawkestra event). But there are a few brilliant > > > > moments, too. I've always found the combination of Nik and Huw to be > > that > > > > way (often a mess, but occasionally brilliant, that is) ... > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Melvyn Vincent" > > > > >To: > > > > >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:29 PM > > > > >Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Not me either! > > > > >> I'd only purchase the REAL thing! ( Sorry Nik....but if there's no > > Dave > > > > >> Brock...then I'm afraid it just aint Hawkwind! Hawkwind without > Brock > > > is > > > > >> like a Rolls Royce Car being driven by the engine from a Ford > > Escort!) > > > Ha > > > > >> ha..... > > > > > > > > Did it say anywhere (except the subject header, which was clearly not > > > > serious, at least that's what "ha ha" usually implies to me) that this > > > > would be called a Hawkwind album? Just checking (is there a URL > > anywhere > > > > with more info? enquiring minds wanna know) ... > > > > > > > > -Doug > > > > ceres at sirius.com > > > > > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Apr 29 09:30:25 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:30:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: isn't it all a bit like the Roger Waters vs Dave Gilmour split down the middle where both reckoned they had the right to use Pink Floyd - there, the mystery was why it went to Gilmour as he was NOT an original member of the band - so maybe it's not as clear cut as it seems. Andy G.aribaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHLL (Scott Heller)" To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:27 PM Subject: HW: Nik thoughts > I thought nik was in the hawks for like 8 years or more ... 1969-1975, > 1982-84, > > I personally think that Nik adds a very unique element to the band and he > should be given a lot of credit for keeping the hawkwind song and spirit > alive over the years, even though he has penned very few numbers. He does > not fit well with the current line up but has been a special element in the > band in many. > > scott > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mr. Dibs [mailto:spacehead at SPACESTATION.CO.UK] > Sent: 27. april 2001 12:58 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy > > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:46:18 +0100, iain ferguson > wrote: > > >OK, here goes my Fantasy line-up. > > > >Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Tim Blake, Jerry Richards, Keith > >Kniveton, Ron Tree. > >( with Martin Griffin, Huw & harvey) coming on to do Living on A Knife > Edge, > >Rocky Paths & Angels of Death). > >With Lee Perry or the Mad Professor on the mixing desk. Plus the astralasia > >guys making an awesome dance remix album of the live gig. > > > >PS. anyone else noticed that hardly anyone has put Nik in their fantasy > line > >ups . > > > >Oh and I won't be buying the Nik wind album.. Can't stand his Sax.... > > > >regards > >iain > > > >"Mr. Dibs" wrote: > > > >> /surely the present line-up fulfills all your fantasies, but just to > enter > >> the fray, how about: > >> > >> Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith > Kniveton, > >> Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, > Rizz, > >> Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. > >> > >> Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is > >> currently running. > >> > >> WELCOME TO THE FUTURE PEOPLE. ONWARDS AND EVER UPWARDS. > >> > >> MR. D. > > one has to remember that nik was only in the hawks for a short time, thus > his contribution is not as great as some of the more recent members. > perhaps this is why hardly anyone includes him in their fantasy line-ups. I > reiterate that the only Hawkwind is the current one, and a bloody good job > it does too, in the face of continued press indifference. (A review of a > collection of old songs doesn't really count, where are the reviews of all > the recent shows?) > I for one am really looking forward to the next run of shows, c u there. > > Mr. D. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 29 13:04:28 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 02:34:28 +0930 Subject: HW: Nik thoughts Message-ID: > isn't it all a bit like the Roger Waters vs Dave Gilmour split down the > middle where both reckoned they had the right to use Pink Floyd - there, the > mystery was why it went to Gilmour as he was NOT an original member of the > band - so maybe it's not as clear cut as it seems. > Andy G.aribaldi curious! > > I personally think that Nik adds a very unique element to the band and he........... I agree - love those crazy sax parts especially when stoned From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 29 13:05:10 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 02:35:10 +0930 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: Hiya Andy G !!!!! Michael Bee From hw at CY-B.ORG Sun Apr 29 13:07:24 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:07:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Lounge Axe and TotalRock CD-R covers Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:51:44 -0700, Kevin Sommers wrote: >Errr, well, I only "took" the picture from the Mission Control gallery.... > >KevinSommers > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of Michael Crook >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:44 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Lounge Axe and TotalRock CD-R covers > > >Hey, Kevin > >Were the band playing 'Levitation' when you took that cover shot at the >Astoria? Simon House certainly seems to be levitating!! > >Mick Hey ! Val took that pic and she assures me that Simon appeared 'high' all night :} From hw at CY-B.ORG Sun Apr 29 13:14:03 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:14:03 -0400 Subject: HW: irc channel Message-ID: Actually, I found a site recently that showed you how to make neat stash pouches from kangaroo's scrotums tha involved a type of knitting.... Thought I'd share that. Rx On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:32:42 +0930, Michael W Blackman wrote: > My knitting patterns are all patented and copyrighted 8>} so sorry >there but I COULD tell you all about my wonderful self and >Australia, kangaroos, lizards and I even have a neat little > poem dedicated to the *sloth - a truly interesting lifeform > or maybe not? > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Apr 29 14:17:34 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 19:17:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: Rock Star Name Generator Message-ID: you're lucky - I got 'Kelly D. Range' which is somehow kinda appropriate. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kusic" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 4:01 PM Subject: OFF: Rock Star Name Generator > Another fun name generator. 10 music categories! > > http://www.mp3.com/rockstarname > > You don't have to put in your actual email address - just something in > email format to go on to the next page where your name will be > displayed. I use yahoo at aol.com which works. > > Have fun! :) > > Karen aka "Black Ice Princess" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Apr 29 14:40:30 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:40:30 EDT Subject: OFF/HW/Samantha Fox, topless until midnight edt. Message-ID: this is just not gonna work right. all pardons to they who require same and no offense, ladies... == okay. at the following site for smutpix of many varieties: http://www.pornno.com/main1.html in the category of 'celebrities', select the page entitled 'blonde is a fox'. there are 15 pix of Samantha Fox; topless and/or not quite nude, but nothing rude. ...from her heyday as a nekkid lady, some years aback. the page will be 'new' until the material changes tomorrow; after that you can get it from their celebrities archives, mentioned at the end of the section. warning: there is quite a lot of potentially-offensive material here; rated x, to say the least. ============================================================== but as her days as a babe have been discussed here..... (ducking) "<>" From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Sun Apr 29 10:47:18 2001 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Sara Zaza) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:47:18 -0000 Subject: HW:Spacebrock plus Message-ID: Just a comment or two... > >I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think > >whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot of > >people. Gotta agree with this. > For sure the worst thing > >Dave has ever put out. This is a bit harsh, but I agree it is disjointed...then again I only have the mispress, I need to get the proper release...I like it a fair amount actually but don't consider it to be a HW release, more like if Mr. Brock sent me a cd of material he was working on for a solo lp/cd, I would expect it to sound like Spacebrock. > >I really see the end of Hawkwind...... now......sure they will play some > >great gigs but the last real HW cd was in 1994 with ALien 4....Distant > >Horizons was just several disjointed musical pieces slung together for the > >masses... Don't you think.. Don't despair mate, I think there will be good things in the future. The current lineup is a pretty great one and this is a band that has had more twists and turns than any other and things still work out. Regarding Distant Horizons, I was told by 3 different band members on separate occasions that the lp was rushed out before it was ready by ta-daa.....Doug Smith. The (crap) artwork was unauthorized as well. I like it quite a bit (esp Phetamine, Reptoid, Clouded Vision) but it does sound unfinished in places and the cd does not "flow" and lacks cohesion. I really liked In Your Area but can recognize it as being another (well-done this time tho...) cobbling together of things. Doug Bates opined: (regarding Chronicles) >>For me this was their Spinal Tap period, cheesy 80's metal without the big hair, a bad dream indeed. Also pretty harsh, but pretty accurate I'm afraid. A few good songs here & there but this was a bleak bleak time for HW (imho), what happened to the anarchic spirit? Inspiration replaced by stagnation and a shockingly conformist sound by the least conformist band ever. Not meaning to offend/annoy fans of this time period, as we all have our preferences, this just wasn't my favorite time period. John Stanton From nexus at PANIX.COM Sun Apr 29 14:54:05 2001 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:54:05 -0400 Subject: HW et al: Fuz magazine #2 In-Reply-To: from "Sara Zaza" at Apr 29, 2001 02:47:18 PM Message-ID: I've just recently got my hands on a copy of Fuz #2, covering Hawkwind, Deviants and Pink Fairies with spill over into a variety of other projects naturally. It's fairly interesting. The various incestuous personel changes are chronicles as well as introducing me to some of the side projects that sound like they might be worth checking out. Strange days ... JB From moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Sun Apr 29 14:57:19 2001 From: moonglum at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (Moonglum) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 19:57:19 +0100 Subject: HW:Spacebrock plus Message-ID: Not heard Spacebrock, but "worst thing Dave Brock's ever released"? My vote goes to Agents of Chaos, but what are 1 or 2 duff releases compared to scores of superb albums.... I am waiting to get my hands on Distant Horizons, thanks to views expressed by members of BOC-L, & also In Your Area....I am prepared for these not be classics, but the worrying thing with being a HW fan (& not buying eveything when it comes out) is...what if it IS a classic? They do have the habit of drifting into uninspired territory and then coming back with something storming like Alien 4. This is all IMHO of course. This band is far from finished. After the recent gigs I think this is the best HW have been since the 70's, if you assume that Alan Davey and Simon House are indeed members of the band. Just need that new studio album now....time for us all to exercise our Psi Powers.... Moonglum From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Apr 29 15:36:59 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 20:36:59 +0100 Subject: OFF:LP's Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Layla Thompson To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: OFF:LP's > Hello everybody. > > I need to get my hand's on two things as soon as possible. > > Robert Calvert at the Queen Elizabeth Hall and > Blueprints from the Cellar. > I've got a spare copy of Robert Calvert at the Queen Elizabeth Hall on CD if this is of any use to you. Also a spare copy of Test Tube Conceived - just in case anyone is looking for this. cheers jill currently playing endlessly on the turntable - Simon House 'Spiral Galaxy Revisited' ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Apr 29 17:55:33 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 22:55:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Opa-loka Message-ID: I always assumed that Opa-Loka was derived rom Neu's Hallo Gallo. Dave From hw at CY-B.ORG Sun Apr 29 17:11:43 2001 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 17:11:43 -0400 Subject: HW: Pix Updates Message-ID: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ++STAR WARRIORS More Pictures have been added to the Spring Tour Zone at Mission Control - Access via Livepix/Updates/Tour Info www.hawkwind.org.uk MESSAGE ENDS++ :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Apr 29 18:15:49 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 23:15:49 +0100 Subject: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) Message-ID: Hi Mike, Strange days here in the UK - just about finsihed with the new CDS catalogue - unfortunately Voiceprint were being reticent about new release info concerning the next thing due which is the Nottingham '90 CD (still don;t know if it's a double CD or not), Ozit won't give a track list for the Nik Turner double from last year or even a correct title, and I've not yet got to Alan so I haven't got a firm date for Bedouin either, but thye're all in there anyway. After a stock take, I find I'm down to just 25 copies of the Spacehead 'In Space We Trust' CD so if any one wants it, now is the time as I can guarantee there won;t be a repress (my label, you see). Got your Alien Dream review in there plus some really exciting non-Hawk related stuff, so it's turned out pretty good. You'll see a copy down there in OZ real soon. Apart from that, updated the website ( www.andygee.dial.pipex.com ) but not yet checked to see if it all loaded (I usually forget a .jpg file or something) and trying to solve a problem realting to the '80's band Bucks Fizz - all this in a sunny Dundee weekend - I must get out more!!!! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 6:05 PM Subject: Re: New Live Hawkwind Recording (Ha Ha) > Hiya Andy G !!!!! > > > Michael Bee From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Apr 29 19:00:15 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Satania) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 17:00:15 -0600 Subject: HW: Opa-loka In-Reply-To: <004901c0d0f7$1e9d51e0$4659893e@default> Message-ID: Dave: "I always assumed that Opa-Loka was derived rom Neu's Hallo Gallo." sounds right to me, mannn... m c From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Apr 29 18:21:40 2001 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 23:21:40 +0100 Subject: HW:Spacebrock plus Message-ID: It started life as a Dave Brock solo - but I think we've touched on this before here - the label elected to put it as a Hawkwind album so that it would end up in the Hawkwind CD sections of the mulitples (HMV, Tower, Virgin, etc) who sadly all have staff and managers who have to play it by the rules laid down and aren't allowed any modicum of free-thinking such as putting a Dave Brock album in a Hawkwind section - not that any of that lot, with the exception of Claire Doyle at an HMV somewhere in the south east of the UK, know who Dave Brock is anyway. Andy G (sadly ruining his chance of ever working for that bunch now) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara Zaza" To: Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 3:47 PM Subject: HW:Spacebrock plus > Just a comment or two... > > >I just recently got the Spacebrock CD and was very disappointed. I think > > >whoever made the decision to call it a Hawkwind CD was misleading a lot > of > > >people. > > Gotta agree with this. > > > For sure the worst thing > > >Dave has ever put out. > > This is a bit harsh, but I agree it is disjointed...then again I only have > the mispress, I need to get the proper release...I like it a fair amount > actually but don't consider it to be a HW release, more like if Mr. Brock > sent me a cd of material he was working on for a solo lp/cd, I would expect > it to sound like Spacebrock. > > > >I really see the end of Hawkwind...... now......sure they will play some > > >great gigs but the last real HW cd was in 1994 with ALien 4....Distant > > >Horizons was just several disjointed musical pieces slung together for > the > > >masses... Don't you think.. > > Don't despair mate, I think there will be good things in the future. The > current lineup is a pretty great one and this is a band that has had more > twists and turns than any other and things still work out. > Regarding Distant Horizons, I was told by 3 different band members on > separate occasions that the lp was rushed out before it was ready by > ta-daa.....Doug Smith. The (crap) artwork was unauthorized as well. I like > it quite a bit (esp Phetamine, Reptoid, Clouded Vision) but it does sound > unfinished in places and the cd does not "flow" and lacks cohesion. I > really liked In Your Area but can recognize it as being another (well-done > this time tho...) cobbling together of things. > > Doug Bates opined: (regarding Chronicles) > >>For me this was their Spinal Tap period, cheesy 80's metal without the > big hair, a bad dream indeed. > > Also pretty harsh, but pretty accurate I'm afraid. A few good songs here & > there but this was a bleak bleak time for HW (imho), what happened to the > anarchic spirit? Inspiration replaced by stagnation and a shockingly > conformist sound by the least conformist band ever. Not meaning to > offend/annoy fans of this time period, as we all have our preferences, this > just wasn't my favorite time period. > > John Stanton From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Apr 29 19:17:55 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Satania) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 17:17:55 -0600 Subject: HW:Spacebrock plus In-Reply-To: <003d01c0d0fa$c40a88c0$619cbc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Please forgive my smart-"assness", as I NEVER MEAN any real fight with ANY Bocl lister.... people are allowed their own opinions....it is what keeps us from boring eachother to death...BUT... if Dave puts out a CD SHOULDN'T IT be called Hawkwind...... isn't it pure, properly synthesized, strychnine-free, HAWKWIND????? and I mentioned on the other list, that Dave referred to it as "BROCKSPACE" to me...written very clearly, and largely, so maybe that title was his true intention, which would make it more identifiable as him..... also, I have found that HW stuff that didn't seem as exciting when I got it.."Ripens" as years pass.... mike From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Apr 29 17:33:24 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 17:33:24 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond dates Message-ID: Hi Folks... I found these dates from pollstar.com (didn't find any at woronzow strangely). This Bevis tour is to be 'acoustic' is it not? Who will play? Just Nick himself? As Doug P. mentioned, there are a couple shows with the German band (we assume) Couch. Oddly, they seem to be travelling together for a good ten days, but playing different clubs in the same city if they can swing it. Not sure why that is? Grakkl (FAA) Bevis Frond Date City Venue Fri 05/11/01 Chicago, IL Empty Bottle Sat 05/12/01 Minneapolis, MN 7th Street Entry Tue 05/15/01 Seattle, WA Sit & Spin Wed 05/16/01 Portland, OR Lola's Room @ Crystal Ballroom Fri 05/18/01 San Francisco, CA Bottom Of The Hill Sat 05/19/01 Los Angeles, CA Fais Do Do Tue 05/22/01 New London, CT The Secret Stage Wed 05/23/01 Cambridge, MA T.T. The Bear's Thu 05/24/01 New York, NY Mercury Lounge Fri 05/25/01 Philadelphia, PA The Khyber Couch (German 4-piece hypno-rhythmic instrumental post-rock unit) Date City Venue Fri 05/04/01 New York, NY Knitting Factory Sat 05/05/01 Hoboken, NJ Maxwell's Sun 05/06/01 Cambridge, MA T.T. The Bear's Mon 05/07/01 Montreal, QC Casa Del Popolo Tue 05/08/01 Toronto, ON Rivoli Theatre Thu 05/10/01 Detroit, MI Gold Dollar Fri 05/11/01 Chicago, IL Schuba's Sat 05/12/01 Minneapolis, MN 7th Street Entry (w/ Bevis Frond) Tue 05/15/01 Seattle, WA Breakroom Wed 05/16/01 Portland, OR Plan B Fri 05/18/01 San Francisco, CA Bottom Of The Hill (w/ Bevis Frond) Sat 05/19/01 West Hollywood,CA The Troubadour From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Sun Apr 29 18:55:22 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 17:55:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Black Sword era Message-ID: I agree regarding the Black Sword/Live Chronicles era. I think there were some great songs in there, but the way the band was beginning to lean toward heavy metal was an evil omen, in my book. I wished they could be more....weird....psychedelic....tribal.... But just look at the band photos from the time period, where people are wearing black leather pants etc. And probably "Song of the Swords" is the most metal moment the band ever reached... the shrill metal vocals are more than I can usually stand... I think in some ways Black Sword / Live Chronicles was a high point because the band were in a productive mode and actually producing tons of new SONGS (as opposed to the doodles that tend to pass for songs, on some albums), but it was also a low point in terms of real psychedelia and creativity... John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Doug Bates opined: (regarding Chronicles) > >>For me this was their Spinal Tap period, cheesy 80's metal without the > big hair, a bad dream indeed. > > Also pretty harsh, but pretty accurate I'm afraid. A few good songs here & > there but this was a bleak bleak time for HW (imho), what happened to the > anarchic spirit? Inspiration replaced by stagnation and a shockingly > conformist sound by the least conformist band ever. Not meaning to > offend/annoy fans of this time period, as we all have our preferences, this > just wasn't my favorite time period. > > John Stanton From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Apr 29 19:11:55 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 19:11:55 EDT Subject: HW:Spacebrock plus Message-ID: What ever happened to those stickers record companies would put on the cover to tell the musically challenged where to file the record/disc under? It used to be printed on 60's LP's? bob In a message dated 4/29/01 2:59:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: > It started life as a Dave Brock solo - but I think we've touched on this > before here - the label elected to put it as a Hawkwind album so that it > would end up in the Hawkwind CD sections of the mulitples (HMV, Tower, > Virgin, etc) who sadly all have staff and managers who have to play it by > the rules laid down and aren't allowed any modicum of free-thinking such as > putting a Dave Brock album in a Hawkwind section - not that any of that lot, > with the exception of Claire Doyle at an HMV somewhere in the south east of > the UK, know who Dave Brock is anyway. > Andy G (sadly ruining his chance of ever working for that bunch now) > ----- Original Message ----- Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Sun Apr 29 19:34:30 2001 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:34:30 +1000 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: Well I'm sure I bought my poster on the '77 Spirit of the Age tour. The Roadhwaks long-sleeved tie-die shirts were from the '89 tour, and it still fits. regards Marty From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Sun Apr 29 19:35:07 2001 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:35:07 +1000 Subject: Recall: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA] would like to recall the message, "Re: HW: Love & Peace poster....". From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Sun Apr 29 19:35:19 2001 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:35:19 +1000 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: Well I'm sure I bought my poster on the '77 Spirit of the Age tour. The Roadhawks long-sleeved tie-die shirts were from the '89 tour, and it still fits. regards Marty From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sun Apr 29 22:19:25 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 22:19:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond dates In-Reply-To: <200104292245.SAA15296@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: At 17:33 4.29.01 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Folks... > >I found these dates from pollstar.com (didn't find any at woronzow strangely). > >This Bevis tour is to be 'acoustic' is it not? Who will play? Just Nick >himself? Its half acoustic, half electric. I think Ade is touring with Nick on all dates. theres a Drummer on the electric dates only. I cant remember exactly which ones they are but its that latter half of the tour. Go to rubricrecords.com for the lowdown. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 29 23:30:16 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:00:16 +0930 Subject: HW: irc channel Message-ID: Nothing is wasted - Ever tried the Australian version of Rocky Mountain Oysters? Tee hee he Michael Bee ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Rx To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 2:44 AM Subject: Re: HW: irc channel > Actually, I found a site recently that showed you how to make neat stash > pouches from kangaroo's scrotums tha involved a type of knitting.... > > Thought I'd share that. > > Rx > > On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:32:42 +0930, Michael W Blackman > wrote: > > > My knitting patterns are all patented and copyrighted 8>} so sorry > >there but I COULD tell you all about my wonderful self and > >Australia, kangaroos, lizards and I even have a neat little > > poem dedicated to the *sloth - a truly interesting lifeform > > or maybe not? > > > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Apr 29 23:43:01 2001 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:13:01 +0930 Subject: HW: Black Sword era Message-ID: The muse moves in mysterious ways ever forward mb ----- Original Message ----- From: John Majka To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:25 AM Subject: HW: Black Sword era > I agree regarding the Black Sword/Live Chronicles era. I think there were > some great songs in there, but the way the band was beginning to lean toward > heavy metal was an evil omen, in my book. I wished they could be > more....weird....psychedelic....tribal.... But just look at the band photos > from the time period, where people are wearing black leather pants etc. And > probably "Song of the Swords" is the most metal moment the band ever > reached... the shrill metal vocals are more than I can usually stand... I > think in some ways Black Sword / Live Chronicles was a high point because > the band were in a productive mode and actually producing tons of new SONGS > (as opposed to the doodles that tend to pass for songs, on some albums), but > it was also a low point in terms of real psychedelia and creativity... > John Majka > jmajka2 at home.com > From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Apr 30 02:09:50 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 07:09:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Some Brixton footage on the way, apparently Message-ID: and me - the dog can't watch Sam Fox - makes her dizzy! Sam -----Original Message----- From: Bob Lennon [mailto:Hawkwinder at AOL.COM] Sent: 28 April 2001 15:46 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Some Brixton footage on the way, apparently Now this was professionally filmed? What is the chance of the Hawks releasing something if Sam Fox can? What the hell is going on here? We have to buy a Sam Fox cd? ........ that hurts...can some one burn me a copy? of the video cd-rom part that is. bob In a message dated 4/27/01 7:42:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, email at ANDYGILHAM.COM writes: > ...from an unlikely source! See > > http://www.samfox.com/diary.shtml > > for more! > > -- Andy Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Apr 30 02:34:35 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 07:34:35 +0100 Subject: Black Sword era Message-ID: Big agree with this - I love Live Chronicles for sheer BLANGA kinda rocking Hawkwind but to F&%k my head up (within this time period) it has to be Xenon Codex - War I Survived is a banging track and Mutation Zone is just loopy. Sword of the East is mellow/mad and it's just chock full of crazy moments to see you through a night. Sam -----Original Message----- From: John Majka [mailto:jmajka2 at HOME.COM] Sent: 29 April 2001 23:55 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Black Sword era I agree regarding the Black Sword/Live Chronicles era. I think there were some great songs in there, but the way the band was beginning to lean toward heavy metal was an evil omen, in my book. I wished they could be more....weird....psychedelic....tribal.... But just look at the band photos from the time period, where people are wearing black leather pants etc. And probably "Song of the Swords" is the most metal moment the band ever reached... the shrill metal vocals are more than I can usually stand... I think in some ways Black Sword / Live Chronicles was a high point because the band were in a productive mode and actually producing tons of new SONGS (as opposed to the doodles that tend to pass for songs, on some albums), but it was also a low point in terms of real psychedelia and creativity... John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Doug Bates opined: (regarding Chronicles) > >>For me this was their Spinal Tap period, cheesy 80's metal without the > big hair, a bad dream indeed. > > Also pretty harsh, but pretty accurate I'm afraid. A few good songs here & > there but this was a bleak bleak time for HW (imho), what happened to the > anarchic spirit? Inspiration replaced by stagnation and a shockingly > conformist sound by the least conformist band ever. Not meaning to > offend/annoy fans of this time period, as we all have our preferences, this > just wasn't my favorite time period. > > John Stanton *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM Mon Apr 30 02:35:32 2001 From: samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 07:35:32 +0100 Subject: HW:Spacebrock plus Message-ID: Last seen running away with the emotion fish eating Texan bars.......... Sam -----Original Message----- From: Bob Lennon [mailto:Hawkwinder at AOL.COM] Sent: 30 April 2001 00:12 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW:Spacebrock plus What ever happened to those stickers record companies would put on the cover to tell the musically challenged where to file the record/disc under? It used to be printed on 60's LP's? bob In a message dated 4/29/01 2:59:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: > It started life as a Dave Brock solo - but I think we've touched on this > before here - the label elected to put it as a Hawkwind album so that it > would end up in the Hawkwind CD sections of the mulitples (HMV, Tower, > Virgin, etc) who sadly all have staff and managers who have to play it by > the rules laid down and aren't allowed any modicum of free-thinking such as > putting a Dave Brock album in a Hawkwind section - not that any of that lot, > with the exception of Claire Doyle at an HMV somewhere in the south east of > the UK, know who Dave Brock is anyway. > Andy G (sadly ruining his chance of ever working for that bunch now) > ----- Original Message ----- Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html *********************************************************************************** The contents of, and the information contained in this email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and legally privileged, and are sent for the personal attention of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended addressee, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. Thank you NTL *********************************************************************************** From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Apr 30 12:22:55 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:22:55 -0400 Subject: FW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Come to think of it weren't there to Keith Hayles/Hales? The one I didn't rate was the 1980 fill in for Tim Blake with dodgy Dangerous Visons. I thought the one in Sonic Assasins '77 was okay unless it was the same one? Bernhard help? Don't know how much of that synth stuff from SA Over the Top was Dave though? -----Original Message----- From: ejobson [mailto:ejobson at thrupoint.net] Sent: 27 April 2001 21:11 To: 'BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List' Subject: RE: hawks/fantasy Sorry guys but it's all about opinions. I only rated Nik early days, Harvey I don't rate as a singer or bassist but actually thought he fitted well into the Hawklords and '79 line ups. Danny, Paul Rudolph and Bridgett, na! Albums, no didn't like Electric Teppee, Bring me the Head or Zones. Sonic Attack and ASAM both had some good songs but as complete albums were dissapointing. Even Dave slated Astounding Sounds. -----Original Message----- From: William Duffy [mailto:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] Sent: 27 April 2001 10:30 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy And what's wrong with Electric Tepee? Even ASAM is a good album (not fantastic, but not bad either)? I also thought Bridget Wishart was quite good. William > What is wrong with HARVEY BAINBRIDGE? I think he is brilliant. You've > reached your future state, haven't you? STEPHE > > -----Original Message----- > From: ejobson [mailto:ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET] > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:18 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy > > > Now we've had best line up and top five albums, how about the reverse. > Here's my twopenneth..... > > Albums (worst) > Bring me the Head > Zones > Sonic Attack > Electric Teppee > ASAM > > Line up: > Nik Turner (although he does have some qualities or did early on) > Keith Hayles - Keyboard > Harvey Bainbridge - Bass/keyboard > Danny Thompson - Drums > Bridgett Whatever? - Screeching > Paul Rudolph - Bass > > Well? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Mr. Dibs > Sent: 27 April 2001 06:58 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy > > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:46:18 +0100, iain ferguson > wrote: > > >OK, here goes my Fantasy line-up. > > > >Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Tim Blake, Jerry Richards, Keith > >Kniveton, Ron Tree. > >( with Martin Griffin, Huw & harvey) coming on to do Living on A Knife > Edge, > >Rocky Paths & Angels of Death). > >With Lee Perry or the Mad Professor on the mixing desk. Plus the astralasia > >guys making an awesome dance remix album of the live gig. > > > >PS. anyone else noticed that hardly anyone has put Nik in their fantasy > line > >ups . > > > >Oh and I won't be buying the Nik wind album.. Can't stand his Sax.... > > > >regards > >iain > > > >"Mr. Dibs" wrote: > > > >> /surely the present line-up fulfills all your fantasies, but just to > enter > >> the fray, how about: > >> > >> Dave Brock, Richard Chadwick, Alan Davey, Me, Martin Krel, Keith > Kniveton, > >> Jez Hugget, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Harvey Bainbridge, Lemmy, Crum, > Rizz, > >> Simon House and a partridge in a pear tree. > >> > >> Seriously, there's only one Hawkwind, and that is whichever line-up DB is > >> currently running. > >> > >> WELCOME TO THE FUTURE PEOPLE. ONWARDS AND EVER UPWARDS. > >> > >> MR. D. > > one has to remember that nik was only in the hawks for a short time, thus > his contribution is not as great as some of the more recent members. > perhaps this is why hardly anyone includes him in their fantasy line-ups. I > reiterate that the only Hawkwind is the current one, and a bloody good job > it does too, in the face of continued press indifference. (A review of a > collection of old songs doesn't really count, where are the reviews of all > the recent shows?) > I for one am really looking forward to the next run of shows, c u there. > > Mr. D. > From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Apr 30 13:03:42 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:03:42 -0400 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... In-Reply-To: <200104272028.WAA16389@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: I thought it was a 1976 tour poster? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Bernhard Pospiech Sent: 27 April 2001 16:29 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Hi At 16:07 27.04.2001 -0400, you wrote: >Can anyone tell me when this poster dates from or what period of the band >it is associated with? I suppose its from 1971 Bernhard From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Apr 30 08:09:47 2001 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:09:47 +0100 Subject: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <000401c0d193$0949e7d0$b5102cc3@thrupoint.net> Message-ID: Paul Hayles, 1977 Keith Hale, 1980 -- Andy www.andygilham.com From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Apr 30 13:31:17 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:31:17 -0400 Subject: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Andy Gilham Sent: 30 April 2001 08:10 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: hawks/fantasy Paul Hayles, 1977 Keith Hale, 1980 -- Andy www.andygilham.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 30 09:27:35 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:27:35 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine Live: Paging Andy G Message-ID: I saw that on your latest list. What is it? FoFP From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 30 09:33:11 2001 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:33:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Love & Peace poster.... Message-ID: I think I got mine back in 73, along with the band onstage panorama poster. Recall that if you bought both you got a discount.....plus a joss stick. GARY ----- Original Message ----- From: ejobson To: Sent: 30 April 2001 18:03 Subject: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... > I thought it was a 1976 tour poster? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Bernhard Pospiech > Sent: 27 April 2001 16:29 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Love & Peace poster.... > > > Hi > > At 16:07 27.04.2001 -0400, you wrote: > >Can anyone tell me when this poster dates from or what period of the band > >it is associated with? > > > I suppose its from 1971 > > Bernhard > > From christmu at EUNET.NO Mon Apr 30 10:15:08 2001 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu@eunet.no) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:15:08 +0200 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Message-ID: >OK, just a final confirmation (I still have your address, so I won't need >that), please send the following information: > >1) leaf or branch? >2) all 6 discs or just the 3 featuring Hawkwind? Not sure :) Haven't joined any trees before. I can't burn CDs so I may be excluded? In the case I am not, just the 3 Hawkwind discs.Let me know. Thanks! Chr. From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Apr 30 11:22:48 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:22:48 -0400 Subject: BOC: Atlanta, Georgia are you ready to rock and roll? Message-ID: http://www.musicmidtown.com/mm_home.html If you're anywhere near Atlanta May 4,5,6, you should check out this festival. Bands scheduled to play include: BOC, Gov't Mule, Derek Trucks Band, Patti Smith, The Cult, Drivin 'N' Cryin (same time as BOC, but different stage), Blues Traveler, Bob Dylan, Black Crowes, Steppenwolf, Cheap Trick, Kansas, Ben Harper, Galactic, and Little Feat. Some warnings: Bands are scheduled for 1:30 sets and BOC plays before Delbert McClinton. At least no one's playing before BOC on that stage to potentially shorten their set. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Mon Apr 30 11:31:52 2001 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:31:52 -0400 Subject: BOC: Atlanta, Georgia are you ready to rock and roll? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Brian Halligan wrote: > http://www.musicmidtown.com/mm_home.html > > If you're anywhere near Atlanta May 4,5,6, you should check out this > festival. Bands scheduled to play include: > > BOC, Gov't Mule, Derek Trucks Band, Patti Smith, The Cult, Drivin 'N' Cryin > (same time as BOC, but different stage), Blues Traveler, Bob Dylan, Black > Crowes, Steppenwolf, Cheap Trick, Kansas, Ben Harper, Galactic, and Little > Feat. Dumb question, but does anybody know who all is in Gov't Mule these days? Nice to see they haven't completely dissolved after Allen Woody's passing and Warren Haynes rejoining the Allmans. The appearance of Govt Mule and Derek Trucks indicates to me that the Allmans are off the road for the time being. Cheers, Rob THV Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Apr 30 11:42:18 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:42:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: Guided By Voices Message-ID: Theo, did you go to the GBV show at Armory High? I was way up toward the front, so I didn't get to see most of the crowd. Fun show! I heard all of my favorite GBV songs except "Echoes Myron" and it was nice to see them playing so much of the new album. Well, I guess since it's #1 in the college radio charts, that's not a surprise. Either was the fact that it was such a young crowd. Closing with Baba O'Riley was cool too--I was actually wearing my Who t-shirt. The only drawbacks I saw were that Robert Pollard was trying too hard to be Roger Daltry, not just during the Who cover, and one of the guitarists was trying too hard to pose like Mick Jagger. ;-) Brian P.S. It was also the first show I've ever seen where the headliner was introduced by a guy (the owner of the club?) reading two original poems he'd written for them. Very classy, even with the outrageous reverb they put on his voice. ;-) Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Apr 30 11:40:11 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:40:11 GMT Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Mike watt on the Red and the Black Message-ID: >From mike watt's tour diary (www.hootpage.com) on tour w J. Mascis.: for soundcheck, we do b.o.c's "the red and the balck" and a new tune from j about amma (I don't know it's name yet) but damn, if we don't have these in the set. we've done the b.o.c. one a couple of times but never the new amma one. j wants to hand out copies of the amma one's lyrics to the crowd and have us do a big sing-along. that would be cool. can't wait. I've said before why I dig the other one - I've been playing it w/the bands I've been in since I started playing w/d. boon and it's a common thread that's traveled down the years w/me. I dig j's take on it. all the cats who've played it w/me have their own way of doing it - not one stoops to cookie-cutter buck dharma (the guitarist on the original). I dig that. --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Apr 30 11:45:25 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:45:25 -0400 Subject: BOC: Atlanta, Georgia are you ready to rock and roll? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rob Vincent wrote: > Dumb question, but does anybody know who all is in Gov't Mule these days? > Nice to see they haven't completely dissolved after Allen Woody's passing > and Warren Haynes rejoining the Allmans. The appearance of Govt Mule and > Derek Trucks indicates to me that the Allmans are off the road for the > time being. >From http://www.mule.net > The New School of Gov't Mule: > Warren Haynes, Matt Abts, David Schools (of Widespread Panic) & Chuck Leavell Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Apr 30 11:44:04 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:44:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: BOC: Atlanta, Georgia are you ready to rock and roll? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Rob Vincent wrote: => Dumb question, but does anybody know who all is in Gov't Mule these days? It's not a dumb question at all. There are many besides yourself wondering exactly the same thing since it was announced that Warren had rejoined the Allman Brothers Band. :-( => Nice to see they haven't completely dissolved after Allen Woody's passing => and Warren Haynes rejoining the Allmans. The appearance of Govt Mule and => Derek Trucks indicates to me that the Allmans are off the road for the => time being. I saw a "New School of Gov't Mule" show in March. (Great show, BTW.) Besides Warren and Matt, there was Dave Schools on bass, and Mr. Chuck Leavell on keyboards. Obviously, the latter two are only temporary members. There are a bunch of "New School Mule" dates in May (mostly in the North East), and then after that... who knows? Last I heard was the possibility of a small (possibly world) tour in late 2001 featuring a ton of famous bassists who are currently guesting on the latest Mule album being recorded. The Allman Brothers are most definitely on the road. From the new dates announced on their WWW site, it seems they are co-headlining with Phil & Friends, which is handy for Warren, as he's also still playing with them this year. (When does he ever manage to catch his breath??:) I hope to catch three shows in early August. I noticed the Derek Trucks Band is slated to open on at least some of these dates. So, it seems to this observer that there's a serious danger of Gov't Mule being relegated once more as a side project. :-( Probably a lot of this has to do with finding a permanent bassist, but who knows. But who knows? Even though Warren is the hardest-working guitarist in the world, there's no way he can maintain an old-style Mule touring schedule (i.e., gazillions of shows/year) and still honour his committments to both Phil & Friends and the Allman Brothers Band. IMHO, the *real* question is where does this leave Matt Abts? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Apr 30 11:53:07 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:53:07 GMT Subject: BOC: save yer money till later folks :( Message-ID: CBS/SONY is going to be re-releasing the entire BOC catalog, remastered with extra bonus unreleased tracks. The first of these releases are slated for (date has been pushed back, now) June 26. --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Apr 30 12:00:20 2001 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:00:20 GMT Subject: BOC/SFG: Stalk forrest update Message-ID: Page for the disc says :"Available Now For Immediate Shipment", it means just exactly that: there is stock of The Release In Question on hand and it will ship to you as soon as your order is fully processed. so, to quote the Kinks, everybody's gonna be happy Jason --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From jmajka2 at HOME.COM Mon Apr 30 12:06:06 2001 From: jmajka2 at HOME.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:06:06 -0500 Subject: OFF: Guided By Voices Message-ID: I'll be seeing GBV next week here in Indianapolis and it should be a great show. I've seen them about 7 or 8 times and it's always been spectacular. They have such a huge backlog of possible songs to draw from that I'm always surprised to hear what they play--inevitably they always dredge up several obscure B-sides and so on that you never expected to hear. I remember the last time I saw them they played "Big School"...wow that was amazing.... I'm sure they won't disappoint! I'm not real keen on the latest record, but all that Pollard solo stuff is the bee's knees! John Majka jmajka2 at home.com > Theo, did you go to the GBV show at Armory High? I was way up toward the > front, so I didn't get to see most of the crowd. Fun show! I heard all of my > favorite GBV songs except "Echoes Myron" and it was nice to see them playing > so much of the new album. Well, I guess since it's #1 in the college radio > charts, that's not a surprise. Either was the fact that it was such a young > crowd. Closing with Baba O'Riley was cool too--I was actually wearing my Who > t-shirt. The only drawbacks I saw were that Robert Pollard was trying too > hard to be Roger Daltry, not just during the Who cover, and one of the > guitarists was trying too hard to pose like Mick Jagger. ;-) > > Brian > > P.S. It was also the first show I've ever seen where the headliner was > introduced by a guy (the owner of the club?) reading two original poems he'd > written for them. Very classy, even with the outrageous reverb they put on > his voice. ;-) > > Brian > > -- > Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower > MP3 Radio > Updated Semi-Occasionally > http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Apr 30 12:10:30 2001 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:10:30 EDT Subject: HW:Spacebrock plus Message-ID: I see, so that explains all the confusion.... bob In a message dated 4/30/01 2:37:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, samantha.kirwan at NTL.COM writes: > Last seen running away with the emotion fish eating Texan bars.......... > > Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Lennon [mailto:Hawkwinder at AOL.COM] > Sent: 30 April 2001 00:12 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW:Spacebrock plus > > > What ever happened to those stickers record companies would put on the cover > to tell the musically challenged where to file the record/disc under? > It used to be printed on 60's LP's? > bob From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Apr 30 12:22:08 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:22:08 -0400 Subject: OFF: Guided By Voices In-Reply-To: <001501c0d18f$76d87680$e7d1b718@cc177845c> Message-ID: John Majka wrote: > I'm always > surprised to hear what they play--inevitably they always dredge up several > obscure B-sides and so on that you never expected to hear. I only have Vampire on Titus, Bee Thousand, Alien Lanes, and Isolation Drills, so I'm not sure exactly which obscure tunes they played, but I know they played at least 4 songs Robert said won't be out on disk until July...and they were very cool. At least one was written with Tobin Sprout. "After all these years, me and Tobin are still kickin' 'em out," Robert Pollard said after one of the new tunes. > I'm not real keen on the latest record, but > all that Pollard solo stuff is the bee's knees! I like Isolation Drills on its own merits, separate from the other GBV albums I have. The band has a lot of punch in the production and most of the tunes are well-crafted (and full of hooks--Glad Girls even getting a little overblown in that category....) Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Mon Apr 30 12:33:04 2001 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:33:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: Uranium Zone (the song) Message-ID: Although the song "Uranium Zone" was uploaded to the Sloterdijk mp3 site several weeks ago, it is still awaiting approval from MP3.com. This delay has been too long, however I am pleased to see that the song has been included in the latest "space rock radio" offerings at "Aural Innovations". So there is a way of hearing this song and alot of other great stuff, by checking out: www.aural-innovations.com and going to "space rock radio".. Then choose "Radio Show #26 (April 29th, General Playlist) Check out lots of Jerry's shows!!!!! Peace, and thanks AI......Mike Burro (Sloterdijk) www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 30 12:55:48 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:55:48 +0100 Subject: Farflung tracklist required Message-ID: Does anyone have the tracklist for the Strange Daze CDR of them playing with Nik Turner? Ta. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 30 12:58:51 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:58:51 +0100 Subject: HW:Spacebrock plus In-Reply-To: Bob Lennon's message of Sun, 29 Apr 2001 19:11:55 EDT Message-ID: Bob Lennon writes: > What ever happened to those stickers record companies would put on the cover > to tell the musically challenged where to file the record/disc under? Mike Coleman's got 'em all. FoFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Apr 30 13:10:39 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:10:39 EDT Subject: BOC/SFG: Stalk forrest update In-Reply-To: <200104301600.f3UG0Kx17918@shell.acmenet.net> Message-ID: On 30 Apr 2001, at 16:00, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > Page for the disc says :"Available Now For Immediate Shipment", it > means just exactly that: there is stock of The Release In Question on > hand and it will ship to you as soon as your order is fully processed. > > so, to quote the Kinks, everybody's gonna be happy > Jason > Esp. me, 'cause I just got mine in the mail! Let you know in an hour what I think... theo From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Apr 30 13:12:14 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:12:14 -0400 Subject: BOC: Stalk-Forrest Group CD here Message-ID: Here's just a quick note to let folks know that today's mail brought my copy of the _St. Cecilia: The Electra Recordings_ CD, so I expect others that pre-ordered like me should get theirs soon. Flipping throught the booklet, I am impressed: this is how an archive release should be done! Cheers, Paul. NP: Can you guess? PS: Even our very own FAQ man, John, gets a URL in the booklet! e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Apr 30 14:14:01 2001 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:14:01 EDT Subject: OFF:UNIVERSE CREATION: "Scientists find big bang evidence" (AP) Message-ID: Scientists Find Big Bang Evidence .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Key elements of theories about how the universe expanded and developed after the Big Bang have been confirmed by data from high-flying balloons and from instruments operating in Antarctica, scientists say. The instruments, looking deep into the universe, were able to detect minute ripples and distortions in energy patterns within the cosmic microwave background, a faint glow left over from the immense heat of the Big Bang. Readings from the Degree Angular Scale Interferometer at the Center for Astrophysical Research in Antarctica show tiny distortions in the distribution of matter and variations in temperature just moments after the Big Bang. A concept, called the inflation theory, holds that these irregularities, enlarging over time, led to the formation of all the big structures in the universe - galaxies, stars and planets. The new findings, said John Carlstrom, an astronomy professor at the University of Chicago and head of the DASI team, lend strong support to the inflation theory. ``It's always been theoretically compelling,'' said Carlstrom. ``Now it's on very solid experimental ground.'' Carlstrom and his team presented the research Sunday at the spring meeting of the American Physical Society. The DASI experiment could detect ripples of temperature differences at a time when the universe was about 400,000 years old. The universe is thought to be about 14 billion years old. The inflation theory predicts that the temperature differences would show up as three peaks that become progressively fainter with time. Carlstrom said DASI detected two peaks and suggestions of a third. Researchers believe the data also support the idea that ordinary matter, of which planets, stars and even people are made, accounts for only about 4.5 percent of the universe's total mass. The rest of the energy in the universe is attributed to cold dark matter, which cannot be easily detected, and to a force called ``dark energy,'' which is thought to be causing galaxies to separate at a faster and faster rate. Other experimenters, using instruments boosted up to 120,000 feet by balloons detected variations to within 100 millionths of a degree in the cosmic microwave background radiation temperature. The data, from a project called Balloon Observations of Millimetric Extragalactic Radiation and Geophysics, were gathered in 1998. The data provide more detail for cosmic microwave background temperature data first obtained by a satellite in 1991. Data from the experiments support the notion that the universe is flat and not curved, an idea that would affect the path taken by light streaking across time and space. AP-NY-04-30-01 1324EDT From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Apr 30 14:17:39 2001 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:17:39 EDT Subject: BOC/SFG: Stalk forrest update In-Reply-To: <200104301600.f3UG0Kx17918@shell.acmenet.net> Message-ID: On 30 Apr 2001, at 16:00, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > Page for the disc says :"Available Now For Immediate Shipment", it > means just exactly that: there is stock of The Release In Question on > hand and it will ship to you as soon as your order is fully processed. > > so, to quote the Kinks, everybody's gonna be happy Well, Jason, I guarantee you're going to be happy with this release. It's right up your alley. In fact anyone who's a fan of 60s psychedelia will flip over this record. Considering some of the stuff that DID get released during these days, it's almost miraculous that this stuff wasn't released. Now I assume that this stuff's been heavily doctored and scrubbed for the release, but it still stands way tall compared to other stuff of its era. Most impressive? Naturally, I'd like to think it's BD's guitar playing, but the real star of this show is Albert. He's absolutely huge on this stuff, blowing away any one else playing at the time. He's sooo inventive, and his approach to drumming is so unique, giving a sure glimpse into the stuff he'd tear up with BOC. BD would impress more, excet for his guitar tone/sound. The playing's amazing, it's just not gritty enough to suit me. Let's not neglect Allen's keyboards either--lots of heavy B-3 sounding stuff, and beautifully mixed, too. I'm shocked to hear BD taking so many vocals here, but EB's voice is in great form, esp. when used to sing some very out there lyrics! Everybody get this one today. You won't be disappointed... theo From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Apr 30 13:19:29 2001 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:19:29 -0400 Subject: OFF: Guided By Voices Message-ID: >Theo, did you go to the GBV show at Armory High? I was way up toward the >front, so I didn't get to see most of the crowd. Fun show! I heard all of my >favorite GBV songs except "Echoes Myron" and it was nice to see them playing >so much of the new album. Well, I guess since it's #1 in the college radio >charts, that's not a surprise. Either was the fact that it was such a young >crowd. Closing with Baba O'Riley was cool too--I was actually wearing my Who >t-shirt. The only drawbacks I saw were that Robert Pollard was trying too >hard to be Roger Daltry, not just during the Who cover, and one of the >guitarists was trying too hard to pose like Mick Jagger. ;-) Alright, what the hell is this band like? Of course, they're big around these parts given that they're from a stone's throw west of here (Columbus OH), but I've never heard a single song of theirs. I've always assumed that they must be that same sort of 'indie rock' that includes other names that I've never heard (and hence can't describe either) like Belle & Sebastien, that Sleater-Kinney group whoever that may be, and that dude from Portland, OR (can't remember his name). These are all artists I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like just because of the way they look or what other names they're associated with , or simply because they show up on the covers of magazines, and that automatically makes them no good. (Oh wait, I just saw Lemmy's ugly mug on the cover of Goldmine, so scratch that thought!) But I'm now starting to see their name appear more and more on lists/boards co-mingling with 'good' stuff. And that makes me curious as to whether I'm really missing something or not. So, do they just sing (or whine) along to mindless jangly guitar bits while looking lost and forlorn and hanging on their microphone stand like they're about to keel over, or has my cynical mind just gotten away from me? Grakkl (FAA) ObCD: Farflung w/ Nik Turner Live at Strange Daze '99 (the others are pretty darn strong as well! The Harvey '00 one actually sounds far more interesting than what I remembered from actually being at the show - I can actually here all of what Harvey was saying...I have almost no recollection whatsoever of the Farflung '99 set sadly.) From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Apr 30 14:56:10 2001 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:56:10 -0400 Subject: OFF: Guided By Voices In-Reply-To: <200104301831.OAA23864@mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: > Alright, what the hell is this band like? They *were* lo-fi four-track psychedelic popsters led by Robert Pollard, who is from Ohio, but sings with a mock accent and writes cryptic lyrics. Think of the poppier aspects of Bevis Frond (as well as his weirder bits) with the production values of his early albums and without his guitar solos. Robert Pollard doesn't lean on the mic stand. He twirls the mic like Roger Daltry... They *are* a slickly-produced psychedelic pop band (as of the last two albums) led by Robert Pollard, but with a different backing band. Less shoegazing and more like, "Hey glad girls only wanna get you high...and they're alright." The band was constantly jumping around the stage live. Think of The Who meets Cheap Trick. That's my take, but I'm sure John Majka could explain them much better. And probably put them in a better light than I just did! Based on the bands and songs you've talked about on the list, you'd probably enjoy the earlier albums much more than the current one. I recommend getting "Bee Thousand" used. If you don't like it, you probably won't like Guided By Voices. Brian -- Vincent Price Talking Lawnmower MP3 Radio Updated Semi-Occasionally http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Apr 30 15:15:21 2001 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:15:21 -0500 Subject: OFF:UNIVERSE CREATION: "Scientists find big bang evidence" (AP) In-Reply-To: <6.15e4f051.281f0569@aol.com> Message-ID: ...and the DASI home page is at: http://astro.uchicago.edu/dasi/ Arin On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: :Subject: OFF:UNIVERSE CREATION: "Scientists find big bang evidence" (AP) : :Scientists Find Big Bang Evidence : :.c The Associated Press : : :WASHINGTON (AP) - Key elements of theories about how the universe expanded :and developed after the Big Bang have been confirmed by data from high-flying :balloons and from instruments operating in Antarctica, scientists say. : :The instruments, looking deep into the universe, were able to detect minute :ripples and distortions in energy patterns within the cosmic microwave :background, a faint glow left over from the immense heat of the Big Bang. : :Readings from the Degree Angular Scale Interferometer at the Center for :Astrophysical Research in Antarctica show tiny distortions in the :distribution of matter and variations in temperature just moments after the :Big Bang. : :A concept, called the inflation theory, holds that these irregularities, :enlarging over time, led to the formation of all the big structures in the :universe - galaxies, stars and planets. : :The new findings, said John Carlstrom, an astronomy professor at the :University of Chicago and head of the DASI team, lend strong support to the :inflation theory. : :``It's always been theoretically compelling,'' said Carlstrom. ``Now it's on :very solid experimental ground.'' : :Carlstrom and his team presented the research Sunday at the spring meeting of :the American Physical Society. : :The DASI experiment could detect ripples of temperature differences at a time :when the universe was about 400,000 years old. The universe is thought to be :about 14 billion years old. The inflation theory predicts that the :temperature differences would show up as three peaks that become :progressively fainter with time. Carlstrom said DASI detected two peaks and :suggestions of a third. : :Researchers believe the data also support the idea that ordinary matter, of :which planets, stars and even people are made, accounts for only about 4.5 :percent of the universe's total mass. The rest of the energy in the universe :is attributed to cold dark matter, which cannot be easily detected, and to a :force called ``dark energy,'' which is thought to be causing galaxies to :separate at a faster and faster rate. : :Other experimenters, using instruments boosted up to 120,000 feet by balloons :detected variations to within 100 millionths of a degree in the cosmic :microwave background radiation temperature. : :The data, from a project called Balloon Observations of Millimetric :Extragalactic Radiation and Geophysics, were gathered in 1998. The data :provide more detail for cosmic microwave background temperature data first :obtained by a satellite in 1991. : :Data from the experiments support the notion that the universe is flat and :not curved, an idea that would affect the path taken by light streaking :across time and space. : :AP-NY-04-30-01 1324EDT : -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 30 15:24:26 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:24:26 -0400 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:22:55 -0400, ejobson wrote: >Come to think of it weren't there to Keith Hayles/Hales? Paul Hayles and Keith Hale. Yes, there is much confusion over Hawkwind keyboard players of this era ... >The one I didn't rate was the 1980 fill in for Tim Blake with dodgy >Dangerous Visons. I thought the one in Sonic Assasins '77 was okay unless >it was the same one? Bernhard help? Don't know how much of that synth >stuff from SA Over the Top was Dave though? Paul Hayles was the keyboard player with the Sonic Assassins, and also played on the latter part of the '78 US tour, after Simon House left for Bowie's band. He plays mostly electric piano on the Sonic Assassins set; the synth work is Dave. The 1980 mid-tour "fill-in" for Tim Blake was one Twink, who is NOT the same Twink who played drums in the Pretty Things, Tomorrow, Pink Fairies, Pinkwind, etc. Keith Hale was Tim Blake's "official" replacement, who plays on 'Zones' (side one) and 'Do Not Panic' (first LP), and wrote "Dangerous Visions". Before Hawkwind, he played on the second album by a acid/psychedelic- pagan/folk band called Comus. The first Comus, 'First Utterance', absolutely rules and is highly recommended - creepy as hell (and not far off from the sound of the Third Ear Band's 'MacBeth' soundtrack that Simon House played on). I'm told that the second one (w/Keith Hale) truly sucks, however. And yes, I rate Keith Hale as a less-talented keyboard player than Harvey Bainbridge; it's just as well that he went off with Ginger Baker ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 30 15:26:59 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:26:59 -0400 Subject: HW et al: Fuz magazine #2 Message-ID: On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:54:05 -0400, Jeff Berry wrote: >I've just recently got my hands on a copy of Fuz #2, covering >Hawkwind, Deviants and Pink Fairies with spill over into a variety >of other projects naturally. It's fairly interesting. The various >incestuous personel changes are chronicles as well as introducing me >to some of the side projects that sound like they might be worth >checking out. Twink's 'Think Pink' is one of the best (and most) psychedelic albums EVER. I would start there, if you haven't heard that one already (especially since it's readily-available these days on both vinyl and CD as an Italian import). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Mon Apr 30 15:34:15 2001 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:34:15 -0600 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <200104301924.PAA14175@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Is the Danny Thompson of Hawkwind (80's) the same Danny Thompson of the Pentangle? Mark L From nexus at PANIX.COM Mon Apr 30 15:36:20 2001 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:36:20 -0400 Subject: HW et al: Fuz magazine #2 In-Reply-To: from "Douglas Pearson" at Apr 30, 2001 03:26:59 PM Message-ID: >Twink's 'Think Pink' is one of the best (and most) psychedelic albums >EVER. I would start there, if you haven't heard that one already >(especially since it's readily-available these days on both vinyl and CD as >an Italian import). Think Pink is on my list now. I've got a smattering of Deviants already, and some Pinkwind (Rockin' Vicars, too, for love of Pete). But it's always nice to have something else to shop for. JB From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 30 15:37:45 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:37:45 -0400 Subject: HW:Spacebrock plus Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:58:51 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >Bob Lennon writes: > >> What ever happened to those stickers record companies would put on the >> cover to tell the musically challenged where to file the record/disc >> under? > >Mike Coleman's got 'em all. At least he has all the ones that say "file under Hawkwind", which would explain why there weren't any left to put on 'SpaceBrock' ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 30 15:39:33 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:39:33 -0400 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:34:15 -0600, Mark Licht wrote: >Is the Danny Thompson of Hawkwind (80's) the same Danny Thompson of the >Pentangle? Danny Thompson (drums) of 80's Hawkwind is Danny Thompson junior. Danny Thompson (upright bass) of Pentangle (and just about every other English folk project since the 60's) is Danny Thompson senior. Father and son. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Apr 30 15:39:57 2001 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:39:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway In-Reply-To: <005501c0cccf$ad042340$63a4a918@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: Please include me as well. I should be able to burn CDs if that is any help. Mark > > Just a quick note that the Brixton Hawkestra is being > distributed -- all 6 > > discs! That includes the 3 cdrs for the Hawkwind set, as well as 3 > > additional cdrs for the following solo sets performed that night: Simon > > House, Tim Blake, & Bedouin. > > > > This is *NOT* a commercial venture, so anybody interested should be able > to > > get a set, provided they're willing to buy their own blanks and > pay their > > own postage (or set up trades, of course). From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Apr 30 15:45:41 2001 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:45:41 +0100 Subject: HW et al: Fuz magazine #2 Message-ID: Agree with comments on Think Pink. But who actually played on it? ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Pearson To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:26 PM Subject: Re: HW et al: Fuz magazine #2 > On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:54:05 -0400, Jeff Berry wrote: > >I've just recently got my hands on a copy of Fuz #2, covering > >Hawkwind, Deviants and Pink Fairies with spill over into a variety > >of other projects naturally. It's fairly interesting. The various > >incestuous personel changes are chronicles as well as introducing me > >to some of the side projects that sound like they might be worth > >checking out. > > Twink's 'Think Pink' is one of the best (and most) psychedelic albums > EVER. I would start there, if you haven't heard that one already > (especially since it's readily-available these days on both vinyl and CD as > an Italian import). > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Apr 30 15:46:29 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:46:29 -0400 Subject: BOC/SFG: Stalk forrest update In-Reply-To: <3AED7402.25459.1844D92@localhost> Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Ted Jackson wrote: => its era. Most impressive? Naturally, I'd like to think it's BD's guitar => playing, but the real star of this show is Albert. He's absolutely => huge on this stuff, blowing away any one else playing at the time. => He's sooo inventive, and his approach to drumming is so unique, => giving a sure glimpse into the stuff he'd tear up with BOC. Seconded! Albert is amazing on this album. His fluidity lends an incredible drive and energy to the tracks. There are some mind-blowing jams on this disc. "Ragamuffin Dumplin'" and "St. Cecilia" grabbed my attention straight away. The latter is particularly spacey as it gets into the eastern-tinged jam that makes up the bulk of the track. Although Buck's tone is certainly different, I think it fits in really well with the material overall. The lyrics are out there! "A Fact About Sneakers" struck me as particularly bizarre. This is primo psychedelia, and it's a crying shame it took so long to see the light of day. But, it's worth the wait. => Everybody get this one today. You won't be disappointed... Agreed! (And I still have the last two tracks to hear, yet!) Cheers, Paul. NP: Still can't guess? :-) e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 30 15:51:10 2001 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:51:10 +0100 Subject: Lieberman and Clinton start career as music censors Message-ID: http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/04/26/congress.hollywood/index.html From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 30 15:55:23 2001 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:55:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: Danny Thompson of Pentangle was / is Danny Thompson's dad. Dad is reported to have been proud enough of his son's achievement to announce it on-stage once! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Licht To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > Is the Danny Thompson of Hawkwind (80's) the same Danny Thompson of the > Pentangle? > > Mark L > From Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET Mon Apr 30 16:11:19 2001 From: Lwitt1 at QWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:11:19 -0500 Subject: Off Lieberman and Clinton start career as music censors Message-ID: Don't worry, Joe and Hilary know what's best for us. It's too bad Algore didn't win the big one, he'd be handy now to help this little project along. He probably still has PMRC babble memorized. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 2:51 PM Subject: Lieberman and Clinton start career as music censors > http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/04/26/congress.hollywood/index.html > From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Apr 30 21:09:18 2001 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (ejobson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:09:18 -0400 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <200104301924.PAA14175@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Thanks for the in depth update. A while ago I saw someone asking about Andy Anderson. Did this get cleared up? I remember him being a coloured guy who did the extra Choose your Masks gigs in Jan '83 and was a mate of Niks. Can't remember if he carried on after that or not but he was quite good from what I remember, better in my opinion that Martin Griffin's rather predictable style of drumming. Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Pearson [mailto:ceres at SIRIUS.COM] Sent: 30 April 2001 15:24 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:22:55 -0400, ejobson wrote: >Come to think of it weren't there to Keith Hayles/Hales? Paul Hayles and Keith Hale. Yes, there is much confusion over Hawkwind keyboard players of this era ... >The one I didn't rate was the 1980 fill in for Tim Blake with dodgy >Dangerous Visons. I thought the one in Sonic Assasins '77 was okay unless >it was the same one? Bernhard help? Don't know how much of that synth >stuff from SA Over the Top was Dave though? Paul Hayles was the keyboard player with the Sonic Assassins, and also played on the latter part of the '78 US tour, after Simon House left for Bowie's band. He plays mostly electric piano on the Sonic Assassins set; the synth work is Dave. The 1980 mid-tour "fill-in" for Tim Blake was one Twink, who is NOT the same Twink who played drums in the Pretty Things, Tomorrow, Pink Fairies, Pinkwind, etc. Keith Hale was Tim Blake's "official" replacement, who plays on 'Zones' (side one) and 'Do Not Panic' (first LP), and wrote "Dangerous Visions". Before Hawkwind, he played on the second album by a acid/psychedelic- pagan/folk band called Comus. The first Comus, 'First Utterance', absolutely rules and is highly recommended - creepy as hell (and not far off from the sound of the Third Ear Band's 'MacBeth' soundtrack that Simon House played on). I'm told that the second one (w/Keith Hale) truly sucks, however. And yes, I rate Keith Hale as a less-talented keyboard player than Harvey Bainbridge; it's just as well that he went off with Ginger Baker ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Apr 30 16:40:38 2001 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:40:38 -0400 Subject: Off Lieberman and Clinton start career as music censors In-Reply-To: <00a701c0d1b1$b8695020$e4feb5d1@m8v3c0> Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Dan Witt wrote: => Don't worry, Joe and Hilary know what's best for us. It's too bad Algore => didn't win the big one, he'd be handy now to help this little project along. => He probably still has PMRC babble memorized. It's not like this is surprising from Joe, now is it? It's a pity the pair of them can't sponsor a bill to prevent crappy music being marketed to minors (and adults), but that would be denying the majority their right to listen to dross, now wouldn't it. As for Al, I remember when reading the transcript of Zappa's PMRC hearings testimony that Al Gore was the only one who'd actually heard any Zappa. I guess this does mark him out as a dangerous man, in that he'd be voting on something about which he had some direct clue. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Apr 30 16:50:07 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:50:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son In-Reply-To: <013701c0d1af$7f316740$e434883e@jds> Message-ID: In message <013701c0d1af$7f316740$e434883e at jds>, Jill Strobridge writes >Danny Thompson of Pentangle was / is Danny Thompson's dad. Dad >is reported to have been proud enough of his son's achievement to >announce it on-stage once! Indeed- I saw DT sr. at Cropredy in '87 and he talked about going to see "the boy" playing with the Hawks- though he also said "and I thought he was going to be a musician!" In general he seemed pretty pleased though. He also commented that someone had asked him if RICHARD Thompson was his son- which would probably be a biological impossibility, there can't be many years between them, so he wasn't too flattered! (although I don't think any of us could dispute that Richard T is more of a musician than Danny jr). -- Nick Medford From bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Apr 30 16:57:33 2001 From: bedroom at TRANCER28.FSNET.CO.UK (colm mcwilliams) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:57:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Father and son Message-ID: I have never been that impressed with danny thompsons style of drumming when he was in hawkwind. Strangley though when i saw him drum at the hawkestra gig for both hawkwind and bedouin i thought he was pretty good! cheers colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: 30 April 2001 21:50 Subject: Re: HW: Father and son > In message <013701c0d1af$7f316740$e434883e at jds>, Jill Strobridge > writes > >Danny Thompson of Pentangle was / is Danny Thompson's dad. Dad > >is reported to have been proud enough of his son's achievement to > >announce it on-stage once! > > Indeed- I saw DT sr. at Cropredy in '87 and he talked about going to see > "the boy" playing with the Hawks- though he also said "and I thought he > was going to be a musician!" In general he seemed pretty pleased though. > He also commented that someone had asked him if RICHARD Thompson > was his son- which would probably be a biological impossibility, there can't > be many years between them, so he wasn't too flattered! (although I don't > think any of us could dispute that Richard T is more of a musician than > Danny jr). > -- > Nick Medford > From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Apr 30 16:55:29 2001 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:55:29 +0100 Subject: OFF: Roy Harper Message-ID: Anyone here going to see Roy Harper at the Royal festival hall on June 10th? I only found out about this recently and it's sold out. I'm definitely going, having tracked down 3 tickets, but I really, really need 2 more! I've tried the Harper list and every online agency etc. I can find, but no joy. Anyone here able to help or put me on to anyone who might? Eternal gratitude if you can. -- Nick Medford From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 30 17:02:19 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:02:19 -0400 Subject: HW et al: Fuz magazine #2 Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:45:41 +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >Agree with comments on Think Pink. But who actually played on it? The new Italian reissue includes full credits. It varies from track to track, but the gist of it is (I'm at work, so no album in front of me, but I just looked at these on saturday, so) ... Paul Rudolph plays almost all of the lead guitar (he's joined on a couple tracks by Victor Unitt of the Pretty Things / Edgar Broughton Band). Twink plays all the drums EXCEPT "Mexican Grass War" which is original Pretty Things drummer Vivian Prince. John "Junior" Wood of Tomorrow plays (I think) all the bass parts (and maybe some keyboards, too, I forget). John Povey of the Pretty Things plays sitar (and also maybe keyboards). John "Wally" Waller of the Pretty Things plays keyboards. (... and Twink is John Alder - John's all over this album. No wonder they all needed nicknames!) I *think* that's all the instruments, except possibly some extra acoustic guitar and percussion by Twink & Steve Took. Mick Farren, Silver (Twink's girlfriend at the time), and others also made vocal contributions. But Paul Rudolph's guitar playing on this album is MIND-BLOWING; it almost could've been a solo album by HIM. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Mon Apr 30 17:02:01 2001 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:02:01 EDT Subject: HW: Brixton Tree - signups underway Message-ID: I'd like copies...I havent got access to a burner though...please someone explain how this works in this case. Thanks al From nexus at PANIX.COM Mon Apr 30 17:03:26 2001 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:03:26 -0400 Subject: HW et al: Fuz magazine #2 In-Reply-To: from "Captain Bl@ck" at Apr 30, 2001 08:45:41 PM Message-ID: >Agree with comments on Think Pink. But who actually played on it? The article in Fuz says it was: The Deviants (Farren, Sanderson, Hunter and Rudolph), The Pretty Things (?), Steve Peregrine Took, John "Junior" Wood, Hong (from Quiver), and, of course, Twink. JB From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 30 17:08:24 2001 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Douglas Pearson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:08:24 -0400 Subject: HW et al: Fuz magazine #2 Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:03:26 -0400, Jeff Berry wrote: >>Agree with comments on Think Pink. But who actually played on it? > >The article in Fuz says it was: The Deviants (Farren, Sanderson, Hunter >and Rudolph), The credits make it clear that Sanderson & Hunter don't actually play their respective instruments (bass & drums) on it, but they're most certainly part of the backing vocals. > ... Hong (from Quiver) ... Yes, forgot about him (can't remember what he plays ... keyboards or bass, I think). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From StevenTice at AOL.COM Mon Apr 30 17:22:10 2001 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:22:10 EDT Subject: OFF: DVD/CD player advice Message-ID: Greetings, folks. I have a question for you...is there a good place online to shop for DVD/CD players? My CD player finally died and I'm in the market for a new one. I figure I might as well upgrade to a DVD/CD player, especially since I inadvertently bought a DVD-Audio CD which will only play on such a creature. I've had a horrible time finding the kind I'm looking for locally, however. Heck, maybe they don't even make them. Anyway, I'm hoping someone on the list can point me in the right direction. I'm looking for a DVD/CD 5-(or more)-disc changer that's capable of playing burned discs and ideally has a remote control which lets me control the volume of the DVD player. Do any such critters exist? Thanks in advance! :-) (Btw...received my copy of the Stalk-Forrest disc today, as well...it looks beautiful, I hope it sounds beautiful too. Then I can retire my worn tape copy of the album. :-) Steven Tice Calliope Comics 519 Valentine Hill Road Bellefonte, PA 16823 814-355-9830 Musings Online: http://calliope.terrashare.com/index.html From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Mon Apr 30 17:33:49 2001 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:33:49 -0700 Subject: OFF: DVD/CD player advice Message-ID: When I was researching buying a DVD player for last Xmas, I spent a lot of time surfing 800.com for the stats. They have complete spec listings, and most listings also offer 360 deg zoomable views of the unit. A quick peek just now at buy.com under electronics will show you a pic+paragraph touting new players that apparently will not only play cd-r's, but the'll play the mp3 discs that you burned as well. So the odds are you can find exactly what you want..... scorch From chip at PCC.COM Mon Apr 30 17:36:43 2001 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:36:43 -0400 Subject: OFF: DVD/CD player advice In-Reply-To: <31.1413cf5b.281f3182@aol.com> from "Steven Tice" at Apr 30, 2001 05:22:10 PM Message-ID: Steven Tice spoke: > Greetings, folks. I have a question for you...is there a good place online > to shop for DVD/CD players? ...there are many different places and many different brands. I recommend compgeeks.com as a good place to look at some options, especially the cheaper ones (which have satisfied me just fine). -- Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com Physician's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip 1 Main Street * Work:800-722-7708 Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: 802-846-8178 From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Apr 30 18:52:22 2001 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Cat Litter) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:52:22 -0600 Subject: HW:Spacebrock plus In-Reply-To: <200104301937.PAA14684@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: mike and doug: (H and P): What ever happened to those stickers record companies would put on the cover to tell the musically challenged where to file the record/disc under? "mike Coleman's got 'em all". "At least he has all the ones that say "file under Hawkwind", which wouldexplain why there weren't any left to put on 'SpaceBrock'" but I ruined them all after staying up for hours on end trying to figure if they looked better in the right hand corner, or the left....on and off, on and off, on and off..... then I tried to color the white "cracks" they developed in with marker, but it smeared.... I cried.... (and you think this is comedy) (or do you) and for Doug.... bought another "spacebrock" JUST FOR YOU...(will explain private) got Psi Power 45 dug out........"hang on to your hat"....... From spacehead at SPACESTATION.CO.UK Mon Apr 30 17:57:41 2001 From: spacehead at SPACESTATION.CO.UK (Mr. Dibs) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:57:41 -0400 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: I believe Andy Anderson was the drummer for The Cure before his stint in Hawkwind, though I've no idea what he did afterwards. Maybe someone out there can shed some more light? From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 30 19:16:06 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 00:16:06 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Father and son. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Mark Licht To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 30 April 2001 20:35 Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy >Is the Danny Thompson of Hawkwind (80's) the same Danny Thompson of the >Pentangle? > >Mark L > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 30 19:19:15 2001 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 00:19:15 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: He went to the Cure after HW. Apparently he was thrown out of the band in Japan - and hasn't been heard of since. Before HW he played with Steve Hillage and Nik. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Mr. Dibs To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 30 April 2001 22:58 Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy >I believe Andy Anderson was the drummer for The Cure before his stint in >Hawkwind, though I've no idea what he did afterwards. Maybe someone out >there can shed some more light? > From soltanic at YAHOO.COM Mon Apr 30 18:41:08 2001 From: soltanic at YAHOO.COM (Allen Shaw) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:41:08 -0700 Subject: ACTION MAN Hawkwind connection? Message-ID: I read an Action Man story about a band in USA. Have their been any written about Hawkwind? The story is on the aural innovations web site. http://www.aural-innovations.com I think this guy used to write for Hawkwind. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From spacehead at SPACESTATION.CO.UK Mon Apr 30 18:52:50 2001 From: spacehead at SPACESTATION.CO.UK (Mr. Dibs) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:52:50 -0400 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy Message-ID: Cheers mate, I knew I'd got my facts twisted round somewhere. Did he play on Xitintoday? From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Mon Apr 30 19:10:00 2001 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 00:10:00 +0100 Subject: HW: hawks/fantasy In-Reply-To: <000101c0d1cd$952b07e0$1752893e@default> Message-ID: And I believe he was in Brilliant (circa 1984), which included one of the KLF - Bill Drummond I think. Alasdair On 1 May 01, at 0:19, david hall wrote: > He went to the Cure after HW. Apparently he was thrown out of the band in > Japan - and hasn't been heard of since. Before HW he played with Steve > Hillage and Nik. > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mr. Dibs > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 30 April 2001 22:58 > Subject: Re: HW: hawks/fantasy > > > >I believe Andy Anderson was the drummer for The Cure before his stint in > >Hawkwind, though I've no idea what he did afterwards. Maybe someone out > >there can shed some more light? > > > From rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM Mon Apr 30 22:49:14 2001 From: rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM (RPManny) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:49:14 -0400 Subject: BOC: Stalk-Forrest Group CD here Message-ID: Got mine too. Listening to it reminds me of the Grateful Dead at times. This is just to cool. BTW, my CD numbers are: 1226 and 1227. Don't worry, one is being placed aside in case something should ever happen to the other one. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mather" To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 1:12 PM Subject: BOC: Stalk-Forrest Group CD here > Here's just a quick note to let folks know that today's mail brought my > copy of the _St. Cecilia: The Electra Recordings_ CD, so I expect others > that pre-ordered like me should get theirs soon. > > Flipping throught the booklet, I am impressed: this is how an archive > release should be done! > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > NP: Can you guess? > > PS: Even our very own FAQ man, John, gets a URL in the booklet! > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Apr 30 23:47:47 2001 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:47:47 -0500 Subject: OFF: Australia's Brainstorm Message-ID: Australia's spacerock/prog band Brainstorm has just released their second CD, "Brainstorm Two, Earth One". http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bstorm/ "Armageddon", an excellent ~20 minute work was played in it's entirety on Planet Prog Sunday April 29th. The archived mp3 sound file is available for download or streaming here: http://www.wmse.org/schedule.php3#disclaim (see Sunday 9pm, click on "Display available archives for this show") The Brainstorm tune starts around 25 minutes into the 90 minute show. The actual playlist for the show should be posted later this week . . . Enjoy! Karen aka "Bubbles" the Planet Prog webmaster http://claim.to/planprog.html