From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Sat Jul 1 03:45:35 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 08:45:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Thrilling Adventures Offer Message-ID: Is now closed. They've all gone. Thanks to everyone who responded. Stuart Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine http://shop.affinia.com/zeitgeist/Store4/ - The Hawkwind Shop http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk - a kind of portal thing http://hawkwind.freeservers.com - HW resource site http://rock-wallpaper.freeservers.com - Rock Wallpapers http://leahlail.co.uk - site about the VIP actress From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Sun Jul 2 09:14:42 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:14:42 +0100 Subject: OFF: Rock Wallpapers Message-ID: Another update , this time of classic album covers including Rainbow, Sabbath, Ozzy and Elf(!). http://rock-wallpaper.freeservers.com - Rock Wallpapers Stuart Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine http://shop.affinia.com/zeitgeist/Store4/ - The Hawkwind Shop http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk - a kind of portal thing http://hawkwind.freeservers.com - HW resource site http://rock-wallpaper.freeservers.com - Rock Wallpapers http://leahlail.co.uk - site about the VIP actress From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sun Jul 2 09:27:00 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 09:27:00 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: some old/new info.../tidbits Message-ID: cellsum.com is coming soon. The v 1.0 of the site is finished and a soon as some little glitches are worked out the full version will be available. Subject: Brain Surgeons play Harvard Date: 6/9/00 10:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: JJBouchard Hi Joe here, Just want to tell you of the great show I did with (the compact version of) the Brain Surgeons (three piece) we did at Harvard University last night. It was Deborah's __th college reunion and we were part of the talent show for the alumns. The MC was Livingston Taylor and we were second on the bill following a monologue of General Patton. (Tells you what kind of bizzare show it was.) We played three songs: Stones in My Passway, Kiss is a Promise and Red and the Black. The room was a beautiful old theatre which was more ornate than Westminister Abbey! The fanciest joint I've ever played. The band played great. Deborah played guitar on the first number and bass on the next two. The packed house of brainy high achievers went wild! So I guess we did good. Real good. I always wanted to go to Harvard and I finally got my chance. I had a great time. Joe p.s. To those who are wondering. No, I not joining the Brain Surgeons. I was filling in for David Herschberg who couldn't make the gig. They will be touring this summer. Come out and support their gigs. I have my own project which is heating up for later in the summer. Stay tuned for details. Subject: Re: Any Info on Billy, Anyone?? Date: 5/3/00 10:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: JJBouchard Just got a call from JIm Cacala. He tells me he and Andy and Billy rehearsed tracks with Mike Fredo (who wants to do more hard rock!). Jim says Billy is a spunky as ever. More to come. Joe p.s. If you are in NYC this Friday, don't miss the David Roter Method at Manitobas (Dick Manitoba's of the Dicators nightclub) on Ave. A in the Village. We will be premiering tracks from his new CELLSUM CD "They Made Me" . It will be a gas. If you don't laugh, Albert will eat his shorts! From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Jul 2 01:46:25 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 00:46:25 -0500 Subject: BOC: Blue Oyster Cult De-programming? Message-ID: Mention of the band: http://www.freezerbox.com/archive/2000/05/kiss/ -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Jul 2 16:43:41 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:43:41 EDT Subject: OFF: Quick Terrastock 4 Update Message-ID: A few folks have encountered small hiccups when trying to purchase tickets for Terrastock IV. * If you are purchasing tickets from outside the USA or Canada, you must use the "Will Call" option. TicketWeb will not ship tickets overseas. Your ticket(s) will be waiting for you at the venue when you arrive. It's probably safer this way, anyway. * If you are purchasing tickets on-line, make sure you fill out all the information requested on the order form. We've been informed by one fan that the TicketWeb website isn't smart enough to tell you *which* field you've left blank; it only tells you that you have an "Incomplete Order Form." So check the form carefully. If you're stumped, you can always phone in your order. * One fan telephoned TicketWeb for tickets only a few hours after they went on sale, and was told the event was sold out. While advance sales have been brisk, there are still plenty of tickets left. The sales clerk in question was dealt with appropriately (locked in a closet and forced to listen to "Oops!... I Did It Again" until he passed out). Thanks to everyone who's already purchased tickets. This event is going to be tremendous! T4 CONTACT INFORMATION Tickets: * Ticketweb (www.ticketweb.com or call 1-800-965-4827 or 1-510-594-1400) Direct link to purchase tickets on-line: http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=wa&query=schedule&attract=37999 * Sonic Boom Records, Seattle (206-547-2666) * Orpheum Records, Seattle (206-322-6370) Venue address: Showbox 1426 1st Avenue Seattle, WA 98101 (206-628-3151) Festival Organizer: Chris Porter One Reel P.O. Box 9750 Seattle, WA 98109 cporter at onereel.org Festival Promoter: Phil McMullen, The Ptolemaic Terrascope, PO Box 2152, Melksham, Wiltshire SN12 7UQ, England Editor at terrascope.org For questions about the Terrascope website write to Jon at: webmaster at terrascope.org From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Jul 2 16:49:02 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 15:49:02 -0500 Subject: HW: PXR 5 CD search = Satisfied Message-ID: Hello, Thanks for the responses. PXR 5 CD acquired. Latter, wilberry at mindspring.com Stay tuned for new search (Hawklords-25 Years On / CD) From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Sun Jul 2 18:12:09 2000 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 16:12:09 -0600 Subject: OFF: Progrock radio !!! Message-ID: OK folks, this is just too good... I've been looking for something like this for a long time ! Now that I've found it, well, I thought I'd share it with you :-) I know there are a lot of prog fans on this list, so this is for you guys. It's an online progrock radio station. All prog, all the time, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. It's at : www.progradio.com Amazing ! Alex. --------------------------------------------------- Music Video DataBase : mvdbase.com Read the Icarus Encyclopedia of Fantasy & SF - www.noosfere.com/icarus/ (French & English) My Web HQ : members.tripod.com/~Mandor/ --------------------------------------------------- From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Mon Jul 3 11:53:18 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:53:18 +0200 Subject: OFF: test Message-ID: test From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Mon Jul 3 12:11:13 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:11:13 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Members/Sloterdijk/The Solar Fire Lightshow/ 8/6/2000 Message-ID: August 6th, at "The Khyber" 56 South 2nd street, Philadelphia PA: (215) 238-5888 Times: Doors open at 9:00 PM Show starts at 9:30 Tickets: Due in part to the maximum capacity of this venue (250 persons), advance tickets have been made available. Attendees are encouraged to purchase advance tickets to insure entry. Prices: $8.00 in advance ( through the khyber box office # above). $10.00 day of show For complete info on the lineups, personnel, additional tourdates, directions etc, please visit the following URLS: http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl or: www.Strange-Trips.com "Keep The Spirit Alive"!!!!!! http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Mon Jul 3 17:53:33 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:53:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: Progrock radio !!! Message-ID: > OK folks, this is just too good... I've been looking for something like this > for a long time ! Now that I've found it, well, I thought I'd share it with > you :-) I know there are a lot of prog fans on this list, so this is for you > guys. It's an online progrock radio station. All prog, all the time, 24 > hours a day, 7 days a week. It's at : > > www.progradio.com > > Amazing ! I just checked this out, it really is cool stuff. With my dsl I get a 96.7 kbps broadcast(about mp3 quality). From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Mon Jul 3 20:39:56 2000 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:39:56 +1000 Subject: OFF: Oz NetHawk in CA Message-ID: Greetings fellow travellers, This Aussie Nethawk is off to the US for a week or so - specifically LA (Jul 6-8) and San Diego (Jul 8-13). Any Space Rock or Prog goings on in those citoes I should be aware of? S. -- The email address ---> sonique at sonique.net The snail address ---> http://sonique.net/house Paying the Bills ---> http://www.quest.com From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Mon Jul 3 23:05:04 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:05:04 EDT Subject: way OFF: unhappy kids/guns story Message-ID: was at the mall (yik) last night with my shopping-half and walked past a fearsome :) 'mall cop' who was conversing with a roughly 5 yr old boy. as we got closer, we could see the cop was trying to gently avoid the youngster's grabbing hands by twisting and turning while trying to politely walk away...getting even closer, we could see the kid was trying to grab the cop's GUN; not really trying to steal it or anything; just wanted to 'see it'...walking past within a few feet we overheard the cop trying to be as discreet and polite as possible, telling the tyke, 'No, you can't touch that, That's not for you to play with...' the look on the kid's face was a familiar one: the look of a kid who can't have the toy he wants the most... this episode really made me feel physically ill... what to do, what to do... ducking and covering, bobm From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Mon Jul 3 23:25:41 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:25:41 -0500 Subject: OFF way OFF: unhappy kids/guns story Message-ID: uh, kids have played with toy guns since they were invented, the kid probably didn't understand the difference. Were you mad the cop wasn't more stern with the kid? "Robert C. Mayo" wrote: > > was at the mall (yik) last night with my shopping-half and walked past a > fearsome :) 'mall cop' who was conversing with a roughly 5 yr old boy. as we > got closer, we could see the cop was trying to gently avoid the youngster's > grabbing hands by twisting and turning while trying to politely walk > away...getting even closer, we could see the kid was trying to grab the cop's > GUN; not really trying to steal it or anything; just wanted to 'see > it'...walking past within a few feet we overheard the cop trying to be as > discreet and polite as possible, telling the tyke, 'No, you can't touch that, > That's not for you to play with...' the look on the kid's face was a familiar > one: the look of a kid who can't have the toy he wants the most... > > this episode really made me feel physically ill... > > what to do, what to do... > > ducking and covering, > bobm From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Jul 3 23:51:22 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:51:22 EDT Subject: OFF way OFF: unhappy kids/guns story Message-ID: In a message dated 7/3/00 11:22:31 PM, lwitt1 at USWEST.NET writes: << uh, kids have played with toy guns since they were invented, the kid probably didn't understand the difference. Were you mad the cop wasn't more stern with the kid? >> ====== true, kids have played w/toy guns since there were toy guns to play with. true, the kid most likely didnt understand the difference. nah, being more stern w/the kid was not the issue. but in the not-to-distant wake of a 6-year old girl being shot and killed by a 6-year old boy... twould seem the symbolism was not lost on mr.mayo. "<>" www.mp3.com/DasLudicroix == <> KISAKO 2K From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Tue Jul 4 01:25:32 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 01:25:32 EDT Subject: OFF way OFF: unhappy kids/guns story Message-ID: In a message dated 7/3/00 11:22:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lwitt1 at USWEST.NET writes: << uh, kids have played with toy guns since they were invented, the kid probably didn't understand the difference. >> no kidding...this is my point. this kid wanted to play with that gun, real or not, so badly, he was trying to take it from a stranger saying 'no'. they don't know the difference between real guns and toy guns, so to them, there is no difference. this is why they pick up real unsupervised guns that don't have a cop attatched and accidentally (?toy/real?) shoot (?pretend to shoot?) themselves or somebody else. we hear about that every so often, too often, yes? i guess what i saw was as close to that scenario as i''ll ever get, not close at all but freakin' close enough. it really creeped me out. i'll never cross paths with li'l dude ever again and yet i find myself thinking about his future, and in that, thinking about every kid's future re:guns and violence. because they don't know the difference. rmayo who used to play 'starsky and hutch' with sticks for guns and lived to tell ...but still worries; its not 1976 anymore From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 4 06:44:43 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:44:43 +0100 Subject: OFF way OFF: unhappy kids/guns story In-Reply-To: Robert C. Mayo's message of Tue, 4 Jul 2000 01:25:32 EDT Message-ID: Robert C. Mayo writes: > no kidding...this is my point. > this kid wanted to play with that gun, real or not, so badly, he was trying > to take it from a stranger saying 'no'. they don't know the difference > between real guns and toy guns, so to them, there is no difference. this is > why they pick up real unsupervised guns that don't have a cop attatched and > accidentally (?toy/real?) shoot (?pretend to shoot?) themselves or somebody > else. we hear about that every so often, too often, yes? i guess what i saw > was as close to that scenario as i''ll ever get, not close at all but > freakin' close enough. it really creeped me out. i'll never cross paths with > li'l dude ever again and yet i find myself thinking about his future, and in > that, thinking about every kid's future re:guns and violence. > because they don't know the difference. The simple answer is that adults who own guns have a very strong duty of care to ensure that they don't get into the hands of children. That's also true for matches, petrol, paracetomol, bleach, sharp knives and any number of things with which kids can hurt themselves or other people. The cop behaved very well. The real question is where the hell was the supervising parent of the kid. FoFP From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Tue Jul 4 10:46:53 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:46:53 -0400 Subject: "Julia's Dream" ( an evening of music, lights and space) 7/7/2000 Message-ID: "Julia's Dream" is a one night celebration of space rock, psychedelic music, electronics, ambience and prog.. This show will be a very special and rare opportunity to see these bands in one place ( east of ohio), in an intimate setting; without the rush and confusion which often surrounds larger venue events. The performers: (check www.canis-minor for exact schedule) Sloterdijk Canis Minor Dark Aether Project Quarkspace Nebula Trip Venue and contact information: The Morrill Theater 127-6 Smithtown Blvd Nesconset Long Island (New York) Phone: (631) 979-5942 Entry: $15.00 at the door Must be 18 to enter!! For complete information, and or questions regarding diretions etc, please visit: www.Canis-Minor.com http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 5 10:41:47 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:41:47 EDT Subject: OFF: what if they gave a mandelbrot fest, and nobody came? Message-ID: this is only a test. had it been a real post, i would have expanded on the subject title... maybe next time? "<>" From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Wed Jul 5 13:21:14 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:21:14 -0400 Subject: SLOTERDIJK ; INTEGRATION CD officially released in Germany. Message-ID: Sloterdijk's debut release on Lollipop Shop Records, Berlin, Germany is now available. The release entitled "Integration" contains 8 tracks, including two live cuts from the winter 99 european tour. Track listing is as follows: Integration Sexknowledgy Le Guide Happy Anniversary Fred Goldman's Moustache The Thunderbirds Unnamed Psychedelic Jam Cryogenics For ordering information please contact: "The Lollipop Shop" directly at: www.Lollipopshop.de If you experiece problems, please e-mail to: SLOTERDIJK at webtv.net http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jul 5 17:23:55 2000 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David G) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:23:55 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: [Hawkwind] Fw: Planet Gong News Update!] Message-ID: This was posted to the other hawkwind list. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Justin Hood" Subject: [Hawkwind] Fw: Planet Gong News Update! Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:18:21 +0100 Size: 3900 URL: From vince-L at EROLS.COM Wed Jul 5 18:53:32 2000 From: vince-L at EROLS.COM (Vince LeGrand) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:53:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: what if they gave a mandelbrot fest, and nobody came? Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: DASLUD at AOL.COM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 10:48 AM Subject: OFF: what if they gave a mandelbrot fest, and nobody came? >this is only a test. >had it been a real post, i would have expanded on the subject title... > >maybe next time? > >"<>" Yea, it was a drag that there was such a poor turn-out. What's wrong with you people?!? Let's show support for space rock and attend these few opportunities to hear these bands. My son and I travelled up from Philly for Mandelbrot. Surely, there are list members who live closer to Connecticut that could (should..IMHO) have attended. From s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Wed Jul 5 21:30:58 2000 From: s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Patrick) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:30:58 +1000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe BOC-L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From walkerb79 at JUNO.COM Wed Jul 5 21:57:14 2000 From: walkerb79 at JUNO.COM (Brian Walker) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:57:14 -0500 Subject: BOC Newbie with a Question Message-ID: Hello everyone. My name is Brian. I am new to the list here. I am 21 and a raving fan of BOC!! I thought I would start a topic: Can anyone with "BOC Powers" help me get the boys to Duluth, MN! Just kidding ( but that would be cool ) ANY NEWS ON BUCK RELEASING FLAT OUT ON RHINO? From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Jul 5 22:16:45 2000 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill Freeman) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:16:45 +0800 Subject: [Fwd: [Hawkwind] Fw: Planet Gong News Update!] Message-ID: This would be a real shame. Let's hope this is just talk. I think Dave has still a lot to offer musically. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: David G To: Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2000 5:23 AM Subject: [Fwd: [Hawkwind] Fw: Planet Gong News Update!] > This was posted to the other hawkwind list. > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Jul 5 22:31:24 2000 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill Freeman) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:31:24 +0800 Subject: HW - Psychedelic Warriors Message-ID: I have listened to this cd three times now and am liking it more each time I hear it. Songs on it I particularly like are "Frenzzy," "Time and Space" and "Love in Space." "Heart Attack" though is a waste of time. :-) Has anyone else got views on this album that they would like to share? Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Jul 6 00:36:12 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:36:12 EDT Subject: HW - Psychedelic Warriors Message-ID: In a message dated 7/5/00 7:35:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU writes: > I have listened to this cd three times now and am liking it more each time I > hear it. Songs on it I particularly like are "Frenzzy," "Time and Space" and " > Love in Space." > "Heart Attack" though is a waste of time. :-) > Has anyone else got views on this album that they would like to share? > The title track ("White Zone") is one of my all-time faves. Also like some other middle tracks on the album quite a lot (though nothing compared to WZ). I'm also a big fan of the "Mists of Meridin" track from the same line-up (though incl. on the Church of HW CD)--I could go for a whole album of such stuff, if it was as high quality. Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Jul 6 02:44:34 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 02:44:34 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 7/1/00 Message-ID: 7/1/00 1.Farflung--The Day of Saint Anthony's Fire (The Belief Module) 2.Kingston Wall--Stueldt Haejt (Trilogy) 3.Neutral Milk Hotel--King of Carrot Flowers pts. 1-3 (In the Aeroplane Over the Sea) 4. " " " --title track ( " " " " ) 5.Kinder Atom--Simplicity of Two Keyboards (Super Nice Hippypants) 6.Cosmic Jokers--Planeten Sit In (Sci-fi Party) 7.Mythos--Aeronaut (Strange Guys) 8.Hawkwind--Assassins (Love in Space) 9.Ozric Tentacles--title track (Jurassic Shift) 10.Steve Hillage--Glorious Ohm Riff (Aura; by request from Hardy--thanks, mate, and sorry for calling you "dude" on the radio) 11.Quarkspace--Prince (Hidden Moon) 12.Frank Zappa--Wind Up Workin' in a Gas Station (Zoot Allures; dedicated to me) 13.Pressurehed--Conscious Control (Sudden Vertigo) 14.ST-37--Night Jetz (SpaceAge) 15.Henry Cow--Nirvana for Mice (Legend, or Leg-End; dedicated to my socks) Thanks, Chuck "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS for WINAMP: Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS For REAL-AUDIO: KUCR is now available on RealPlayer from RealAudio. Many of you Windows and Mac users already have it so no download and installation would be necessary. Connect to the Internet and open RealPlayer. Select file from the menu and then "open location". Type in http://www.kucr.org:8000 and say OK. Repeat the process if you lose the station at any time. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jul 6 14:25:57 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:25:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Other Space Rock Outfits Of Note In-Reply-To: <007f01bfdaea$2a76e2a0$9336883e@default> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, david hall wrote: > I tend to avoid Hawkwind soundalikes (heard too many of them in the > eighties at festivals when bands were trying to be Hawkwind or Here > and Now). But as for other Space Rock bands my experience tends to be > restricted to the likes of Eloy and Nektar, as for newer ones apart > from Porcupine Tree (do they count) I haven't heard them. Any > opinions? Porcupine Tree have been a different-sounding band every album out so far. I think only _Up the Downstair_ really touches the Hawkwind sound, although I suppose _On The Sunday Of Life..._ meets _Church_ in a few places. I don't think I've ever considered PT a space-rock band although one or two of the tracks are undeniably in the genre. But PT are self- proclaimedly progressive, and that's not the same effect being sought as a space-rock band are after. IMO. Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Thu Jul 6 14:26:38 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:26:38 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Cellsum.com is on Message-ID: Cellsum Records Official website is up and runnin' at www.cellsum.com YAY! Slick look so far! (done by Jacob Bouchard, sez the creds.) AND David Roter Method's NEW CD "They Made Me" .. blurb: The newest Cellsum release features an all-star cast of Blue Oyster Cult's Albert Bouchard, Joe Bouchard and Buck Dharma, the Dictators' Andy Schernoff. Tommy Mandel (Bryan Adams), Soozie Tyrell (Bruce Springsteen, Buster Poindexter) Crispin Cioe (Uptown Horns), Jack Rigg, Richard Julian. Songs include: Legends of New York Ice Ice Maybe Shenequa's Having A Baby Joan Crawford Revisited For Men Only My Man Won't Stand The Roter Curse Sir Elton Kizmyaz Lesbian Midget Motorcycle Gang My Sister's Gynecologist Congratulations Mr. Roter Load o other stuff on the site too. rock rock rock (and roll), Jason From blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US Thu Jul 6 14:52:15 2000 From: blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US (Brad M. Lauchnor) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:52:15 -0600 Subject: BOC: 5-18-2000 tree- final announcement Message-ID: This is the second and final announcement for this tree. It will close on the 17th and I'll announce the structure later that week. The following is a repost of the original sign-up message. It's tree time folks. And the new tree is a recent performance from Atlanta, GA. 5-18-2000 at the Riviera. It's a well balanced audience recording. Nice and clean. The performance is pretty average for the modern 3 OC. In my opinion a good show. If you would like to be part of this tree please email me the following info: Name Email address Geographic location Branch or Leaf If branch, # of leaves you will burn for- I've received email from some that they wanted to be on the list for this show. What I need to know is whether you want to be a branch or a leaf. This is what I have so far. If you are on the list below no need to send another sign up email, just let me know if you are a branch or a leaf if I don't have you listed for one or the other. Rocker22 at aol.com - leaf Hajo.Steffen at t-online.de - Branch - Europe trudyw at locl.net - leaf robert_pardini at grove.com - ? george at londonohio.com - ? toad at engineering.ucsb.edu - Branch The sign up will run for a couple of weeks to make sure we get everyone. I'll be out of town from the 11th through the 16th of July so we'll close it on the 17th. I'll repost this announcement again after the 4th. Here's the set list for the show! Disc 1 Stairway to the Stars Teen Archer ETI Harvest Moon Buck's Boogie Joan Crawford Cities On Flame Burnin' For You Harvester of Eyes Last Days of May Godzilla Reaper Disc 2 Now is the Time the Old Gods Return Dominance and Submission Filler - Riverbend Festival 6-13-99 Chattanooga, TN Stairway to the Stars O.D.'ed on Life Itself M.E. 262 Harvester of Eyes ETI Harvest Moon Buck's Boogie Burnin' for You Godzilla Reaper From mccannl at ACM.ORG Thu Jul 6 15:42:15 2000 From: mccannl at ACM.ORG (Lester McCann) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:42:15 -0500 Subject: BRAIN: Cellsum.com is on Message-ID: Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > > Cellsum Records Official website is up and runnin' at www.cellsum.com I just checked the TBS summer tour schedule on that site, and the Chicago show (July 22nd, I believe) is not listed. Has it been dropped, or just accidently omitted? --lester From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Thu Jul 6 16:07:32 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:07:32 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Cellsum.com is on Message-ID: You wrote: > From: Lester McCann > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:42:15 -0500 > Subject: Re: BRAIN: Cellsum.com is on > > > Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > > > > Cellsum Records Official website is up and runnin' at www.cellsum.com > > I just checked the TBS summer tour schedule on that site, and the > Chicago show (July 22nd, I believe) is not listed. Has it been dropped, > or just accidently omitted? >From what I know, it's been dropped. Sorry to spread bad news, BOC wise, theres a pic of Joe, Donald, and Albert on the site. Cool. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jul 6 16:52:03 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:52:03 EDT Subject: OFF: what if they gave a mandelbrot fest, and nobody came? Message-ID: from Mr. Strange Daze himself, Jim Lascko: yours in warrior bandsmanship, "<>" =========== Hello Larry! Thanks for the email. Feel free to post the following. I have heard about the turn out at Mandlebrot and and I'm sorry that people in that area didn't support this music more. They sure missed a great opportunity to see some very good bands. Low attendance has plagued us in the past and we are always hoping to increase it ourselves. It's a constant problem. Many folks are aware that there was bit of a difficulty between Mandlebrott and myself working together on this festival. It's regrettable to me and stresses the need for us all to work together and not so much as separate units in scattered cities. I didn't NOT COME on purpose and I was actually busy at the time settling Jerry Richards, Richard Chadwick and Capt. Rizz in with Steve Taylor and Steve Hayes so they can commence to music making! I also had a lightshow gig I had to do. Don't be discouraged. There really IS an interest in what we all do but unfortunately it is not a large percentage of the general population. Even if we had ALL pulled together on this and were much more organized on this show the turn out would have still been lean. This is just the nature of the beast were dealing with. We are fighting apathy and lack of interest even among supposed loyal and avid spacerock fans. The reason that shitty music is proliferating is because even though the kids nowadays don't know their ass from a hole in the ground, they are avid supporters of what they believe in and aren't afraid to come out and plunk down their hard earned money to see the music (???) they say they love. We can take a lesson from them. Bands can't just play. They have to promote themselves AND THE SCENE too! Unless a band can sell out the show just by saying "We'll be there" then they have to help promote and sell tickets too. As long as a band's worth is judged only by how many asses are in the seats as is the case now, rather than the more esoteric value of their music, this will always be an issue. I was very disappointed when I came to NYC with Porcupine Tree. This is band with great music in the vein of what we all like. I was there with The Solar Fire Lightshow. Strange Trips sent out postcards to everyone on our mailing list for Porcupine Tree and Gong's US tour, in effect endorsing them and recommending them as "bona fide spacerock-type shows" for all of the fans out there. I think I only recognized a few people from our mail list (I'm not sure how many were really there) and very few from any of the spacerock bands that live the NY/NJ area that we support and work with. You can't support the scene that supports the music if you don't go to the shows when they come to your town. Then when these non-supporting bands play a show and no one is there they wonder why that is. Bands get into a rut (just as I do with the lightshow) where they "just work the gigs" and don't actually want to really attend one! I know it happens but it isn't good. Every spacerock show that is poorly attended is a nail in the coffin of every band who flys under this flag. Venues keep track of who's successful and who isn't. This is supposed to be a fun, live, vital community that is happening NOW and not just 20 years ago when Hawkwind did this or Hawkwind did that! Sure those were golden years, but I don't have a time machine where I can go back and re-live what I missed the first time and no one else does either. I live in the here and now. I can even go into a BETTER FUTURE from my presnt position. But I cannot go into the past! Remember that 30 years ago Hawkwind wasn't Hawkwind either! That came with hard work from a lot of talented people over a long period of time. It was just a scruffy bunch of guys, a naked girl and a lightshow that somehow came together for the good of all! Over a period of time they gained great stature built upon their numerous accomplishments until no one person could fully embody it all to everyone's satisfaction. But I saw pictures of the early days where a handful of people were sitting in the dirt under a motorway overpass LISTENING TO THE MUSIC! It was just THEM doing their thing during their time and now it's just US trying to do out thing in our present time! For better or worse, for good or bad...WE DO IT! And that's all that counts. Congratulations to Nebula Trip and all the warrior bands for making the attempt and for all of the valiant effort, money and time that went into it. I know what it takes and it isn't the easiest job to do. See you at the upcoming gigs and Strange Daze 2000. Come see the future. Come see the re-birth of our Star Nation! Rest in Space Jim Lascko Birth to Death and Death to Birth...from Earth to Heaven and Heaven to Earth! PS: Anyone know where we can find a naked girl? -- Jim Lascko jmfinity at Strange-Trips.com http://www.Strange-Trips.com From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Fri Jul 7 17:53:18 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:53:18 -0500 Subject: OFF: what if they gave a mandelbrot fest, and nobody came? Message-ID: > We are fighting apathy and lack of interest even among supposed loyal and avid > spacerock fans Just thought I'd post a reminder for those people thinking about strange daze 2000 but scared off by high air fares. Check a few different airlines, AND check a few different cities(flying in to Pittsburg is $200.00 cheaper for me, and only an hour away from the festival). Also you might try the list or the message board on Jim's site for possible car pooling. It is a fun time, this will be my fourth Strange Daze! see ya there From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Jul 6 17:57:53 2000 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:57:53 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Cellsum.com is on Message-ID: Lester McCann wrote: > > > I just checked the TBS summer tour schedule on that site, and the > Chicago show (July 22nd, I believe) is not listed. Has it been dropped, > or just accidently omitted? > Unfortunately it has to be rescheduled and given how often we get to the Midwest that is not good. I'm optimistic that we'll be able to tour a bit more now in our stripped down mode. So maybe we'll get back there within a year. There's always Kalamazoo on July 23. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jul 6 19:04:00 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:04:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Alien/Love In Space In-Reply-To: <000b01bfdaed$bfb9ea80$3b26883e@default> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, david hall wrote: > With the talk of HW old and new am I alone in thinking that the Alien > cd, tour, and subsequent live release are some of the best material > that the band has produced? I think the problem with _Alien4_ is that it was pretty good. And then they released _Love In Space_ which blows it away. Given how painful the bad tracks on _Alien4_ are (I really don't get on with `Festivals'), there is really very little reason to own both, IMO. That said, I do play _Alien4_ sometimes because it has a garagey feel to it which is lacking in most other 90s material (not in a bad way, mind, just lacking), but if I had to sell 10 of my CDs... Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From tclark at PETRONET.NET Fri Jul 7 08:22:07 2000 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:22:07 -0500 Subject: Lemmy Speaks Message-ID: The first question is about Hawkwind! Lemmy mentions a possible tour and album with Hawkwind in September, schedules permitting?! Check out the interview at: http://www.metalblitz.com/Master.cfm?action=DisplayFeature&featureID=9 Requires Real Audio. TC From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Fri Jul 7 10:22:22 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:22:22 -0400 Subject: TONIGHT! "Julia's Dream" TONIGHT! Long Island...Look below!!!! 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Enjoy. http://www.dvd.com/stories/play/bondgirls/ Chris Violent Toilet Thing (Wu Name) Ura Lottaman (Bond Girl Name) From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 7 22:47:11 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:47:11 -0500 Subject: HAWKLORDS Message-ID: Wanted: Hawklords - 25 Years On / CD Condition - Like New Cash to you = $70.00 Reply to; wilberry at mindspring.com From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 7 23:36:46 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:36:46 -0500 Subject: HW: HAWKLORDS In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20000707214711.0068cc74@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: At 09:47 PM 07/07/2000 -0500, you wrote: > Wanted: > Hawklords - 25 Years On / CD > Condition - Like New > Cash to you = $70.00 > > Reply to; > wilberry at mindspring.com ------------------------- or Make Your Offer! From g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK Sun Jul 9 05:23:27 2000 From: g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK (g.m.wright) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:23:27 +0100 Subject: tribute to a good friend Message-ID: Today I find myself trying to do one of the saddest things I could imagine, writing an obituary for a very good friend of mine, Michael Pearce. I knew him from school in Swaffham, aged twelve onwards and upwards till last weekend when he died at Watton, aged 34. He was an amazing character, very open, very honest, nothing was to much trouble, what you saw was very much what you got. I loose track of the number of times we'd bump into each other, stop off for a smoke, blast some hawkind and have a bloody good laugh at everything. It didn't matter how down I'd be, we always parted company allot happier, some sanity found and some joy put back in place. The reason for me posting this here is that Michael thought nothing of travelling across the uk to get to see Hawkind, most of you would recognise who I spoke of if you saw him, lots of you spoken to him, he was an avid fan who enjoyed every aspect of Hawkind & related bands. Some of my best memories of him are when we travelled to the London gigs, in particular, the Technicolour Dreams, getting lost in London, so stoned that we were never sure how we'd managed to get there or back again. My fondest memory was of the gig that was advertised as having a fancy dress competition, I think it was Kilburn, guess who was the only one who turned up in fancy dress, in a parrot costume ! I can still picture the look on people's faces when they saw him, but couldn't quite ask why he was wearing it. He will be cremated at Kings Lynn crematorium this Wednesday 12th, the service starts at 11:30 and his parents would welcome anyone who can make it, if not, then please remember him the next time you play some Hawkwind. I guess the next time I see Hawkwind will be very strange indeed. Geoff geoff wright g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Jul 9 13:53:26 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 18:53:26 +0100 Subject: NIK: news Message-ID: Nik has a few gigs and things coming up - some you'll already know about, the two reunion band gigs - DikMik won't be at the shows after all (he's in Spain or something), so it'll be Nik, Huw, Terry and Thomas, playing old stuff, new stuff, jamming a lot. Then there's and the Stourbridge gig with Alan and others. Also, he'll be appearing with Five-Fifteen (from Finland) on October 7th at the "Rotherham Rocks"-festival, Oakwood Centre, United Kingdom (http://www.novision.fi/fivefifteen/tour.html), and at the Big Green Gathering (www.big-green-gathering.com) with The All-Stars on the Friday, and with Trev Thoms on the Saturday. Nik is finishing up the All-Stars album, everybody wants to redo their parts in the studio, but it's progressing and will see the light of day at some point... Nik's also going to be adding some sax to Trev's new album, which he's been off making in Italy, and they're also finishing in the studio. What else... an All-Stars gig on 23rd July, a garden party (open to the public!) at Hermon, near Cardigan, Pemrbokeshire; and if you're in the area, Nik will be busking on August 19th in Barmouth, Gwynedd, and on September 9th in Narberth, Pembs. Oh, and there's plans to re-reissue the Sphynx XITINTODAY album, and also an old live Sphynx show from 1978. And Nik has also been invited to next year's Baja festival in Mexico. I think that's it for the time being! -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From walkerb79 at JUNO.COM Sun Jul 9 14:23:16 2000 From: walkerb79 at JUNO.COM (Brian Walker) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 13:23:16 -0500 Subject: NIK: news Message-ID: Ok... I have to ask. Who is Hawkind and who is NIK? On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 18:53:26 +0100 Andy Gilham writes: > Nik has a few gigs and things coming up - some you'll already know > about, > the two reunion band gigs - DikMik won't be at the shows after all > (he's in > Spain or something), so it'll be Nik, Huw, Terry and Thomas, playing > old > stuff, new stuff, jamming a lot. Then there's and the Stourbridge > gig with > Alan and others. > > Also, he'll be appearing with Five-Fifteen (from Finland) on October > 7th at > the "Rotherham Rocks"-festival, Oakwood Centre, United Kingdom > (http://www.novision.fi/fivefifteen/tour.html), and at the Big Green > Gathering (www.big-green-gathering.com) with The All-Stars on the > Friday, > and with Trev Thoms on the Saturday. Nik is finishing up the > All-Stars > album, everybody wants to redo their parts in the studio, but it's > progressing and will see the light of day at some point... Nik's > also going > to be adding some sax to Trev's new album, which he's been off > making in > Italy, and they're also finishing in the studio. > > What else... an All-Stars gig on 23rd July, a garden party (open to > the > public!) at Hermon, near Cardigan, Pemrbokeshire; and if you're in > the area, > Nik will be busking on August 19th in Barmouth, Gwynedd, and on > September > 9th in Narberth, Pembs. > > Oh, and there's plans to re-reissue the Sphynx XITINTODAY album, and > also an > old live Sphynx show from 1978. And Nik has also been invited to > next > year's Baja festival in Mexico. > > I think that's it for the time being! > > -- Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; > http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sun Jul 9 14:44:02 2000 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 14:44:02 EDT Subject: OFF: RJ/KARYN Message-ID: Give me a ring! Ive been trying to call you ..no machine? Got your message. Bill From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 9 08:08:46 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 13:08:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Other Space Rock Outfits Of Note Message-ID: Yeah PT are evolving nicely. Although I have to say after the benefit of time and a serious number of plays that Stupid Dream is marginally better IMO than Lightbulb. Glad to hear that they are dropping Radioactive Toy from the set. As for spacerock outfits I was more thinking of those the various festivals. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jon Jarrett To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 06 July 2000 19:26 Subject: Re: HW: Other Space Rock Outfits Of Note >On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, david hall wrote: > >> I tend to avoid Hawkwind soundalikes (heard too many of them in the >> eighties at festivals when bands were trying to be Hawkwind or Here >> and Now). But as for other Space Rock bands my experience tends to be >> restricted to the likes of Eloy and Nektar, as for newer ones apart >> from Porcupine Tree (do they count) I haven't heard them. Any >> opinions? > > Porcupine Tree have been a different-sounding band every album out >so far. I think only _Up the Downstair_ really touches the Hawkwind sound, >although I suppose _On The Sunday Of Life..._ meets _Church_ in a few >places. I don't think I've ever considered PT a space-rock band although >one or two of the tracks are undeniably in the genre. But PT are self- >proclaimedly progressive, and that's not the same effect being sought as a >space-rock band are after. IMO. 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URL: From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Jul 9 16:49:00 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 21:49:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Star Nation Message-ID: I'm probably stealing Keith's thunder here, but there's a real-audio track by the Chadwick-Richards project, now apprently known as Star Nation, at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/playlist.html#show02 And it's pretty damn good! -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Jul 9 23:14:19 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:44:19 +0930 Subject: NIK: news Message-ID: yeah right ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Walker To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 3:53 AM Subject: Re: NIK: news > Ok... I have to ask. Who is Hawkind and who is NIK? > > > On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 18:53:26 +0100 Andy Gilham > writes: > > Nik has a few gigs and things coming up - some you'll already know > > about, > > the two reunion band gigs - DikMik won't be at the shows after all > > (he's in > > Spain or something), so it'll be Nik, Huw, Terry and Thomas, playing > > old > > stuff, new stuff, jamming a lot. Then there's and the Stourbridge > > gig with > > Alan and others. > > > > Also, he'll be appearing with Five-Fifteen (from Finland) on October > > 7th at > > the "Rotherham Rocks"-festival, Oakwood Centre, United Kingdom > > (http://www.novision.fi/fivefifteen/tour.html), and at the Big Green > > Gathering (www.big-green-gathering.com) with The All-Stars on the > > Friday, > > and with Trev Thoms on the Saturday. Nik is finishing up the > > All-Stars > > album, everybody wants to redo their parts in the studio, but it's > > progressing and will see the light of day at some point... Nik's > > also going > > to be adding some sax to Trev's new album, which he's been off > > making in > > Italy, and they're also finishing in the studio. > > > > What else... an All-Stars gig on 23rd July, a garden party (open to > > the > > public!) at Hermon, near Cardigan, Pemrbokeshire; and if you're in > > the area, > > Nik will be busking on August 19th in Barmouth, Gwynedd, and on > > September > > 9th in Narberth, Pembs. > > > > Oh, and there's plans to re-reissue the Sphynx XITINTODAY album, and > > also an > > old live Sphynx show from 1978. And Nik has also been invited to > > next > > year's Baja festival in Mexico. > > > > I think that's it for the time being! > > > > -- Andy > > > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; > > http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jul 10 05:13:37 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:13:37 +0100 Subject: NIK: news In-Reply-To: <20000709.132319.-101687.19.walkerb79@juno.com> Message-ID: Brian asked: > Ok... I have to ask. Who is Hawkind and who is NIK? This is still the BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List, isn't it? :) I guess you're here for the BOC side - Hawkwind's the other topic here, a British band that's been around in one form or another for about 30 years. (Lemmy out of Motorhead used to be in Hawkwind.) Nik Turner is a founder member who now has a variety of other projects. Not everybody's into both bands, but this is the way it's always been... -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From walkerb79 at JUNO.COM Sun Jul 9 23:34:50 2000 From: walkerb79 at JUNO.COM (Brian Walker) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 22:34:50 -0500 Subject: NIK: news Message-ID: Seriously! On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:44:19 +0930 Michael Blackman writes: > yeah right > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian Walker > To: > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 3:53 AM > Subject: Re: NIK: news > > > > Ok... I have to ask. Who is Hawkind and who is NIK? > > > > > > On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 18:53:26 +0100 Andy Gilham > > writes: > > > Nik has a few gigs and things coming up - some you'll already > know > > > about, > > > the two reunion band gigs - DikMik won't be at the shows after > all > > > (he's in > > > Spain or something), so it'll be Nik, Huw, Terry and Thomas, > playing > > > old > > > stuff, new stuff, jamming a lot. Then there's and the > Stourbridge > > > gig with > > > Alan and others. > > > > > > Also, he'll be appearing with Five-Fifteen (from Finland) on > October > > > 7th at > > > the "Rotherham Rocks"-festival, Oakwood Centre, United Kingdom > > > (http://www.novision.fi/fivefifteen/tour.html), and at the Big > Green > > > Gathering (www.big-green-gathering.com) with The All-Stars on > the > > > Friday, > > > and with Trev Thoms on the Saturday. Nik is finishing up the > > > All-Stars > > > album, everybody wants to redo their parts in the studio, but > it's > > > progressing and will see the light of day at some point... Nik's > > > also going > > > to be adding some sax to Trev's new album, which he's been off > > > making in > > > Italy, and they're also finishing in the studio. > > > > > > What else... an All-Stars gig on 23rd July, a garden party (open > to > > > the > > > public!) at Hermon, near Cardigan, Pemrbokeshire; and if you're > in > > > the area, > > > Nik will be busking on August 19th in Barmouth, Gwynedd, and on > > > September > > > 9th in Narberth, Pembs. > > > > > > Oh, and there's plans to re-reissue the Sphynx XITINTODAY album, > and > > > also an > > > old live Sphynx show from 1978. And Nik has also been invited > to > > > next > > > year's Baja festival in Mexico. > > > > > > I think that's it for the time being! > > > > > > -- Andy > > > > > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; > > > http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > > From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Mon Jul 10 07:56:38 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:56:38 -0400 Subject: The Golden Age of Palo Alto - tree! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Brad: The CD's came last week while I was on Vacation, listening to them now. I am enjoying them but must ask if the next tree I am going to participate in is of higher or lower quality than this one. Just curious. I will dub out the CD's tonight or tomorrow for my leaves. Mike Habiby From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Mon Jul 10 08:07:18 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:07:18 -0400 Subject: The Golden Age of Palo Alto - tree! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OOPS Thought that went out privately. Sorry bout the "noise" on the list. Mike From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jul 10 08:45:40 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:45:40 -0400 Subject: HW: Star Nation Message-ID: Andy (Knot) Gillcup said... >I'm probably stealing Keith's thunder here, but there's a real-audio track >by the Chadwick-Richards project, now apprently known as Star Nation, at: Not really. My only part in this was lending Jerry a couple CDs...he did the rest. In fact, I can't even listen to the damn thing on this audio-unfriendly computer of 'mine.' >http://aural-innovations.com/radio/playlist.html#show02 > >And it's pretty damn good! I suppose I'll hear it soon enough in person. :) Grakkl (FAA) From walkerb79 at JUNO.COM Mon Jul 10 07:18:30 2000 From: walkerb79 at JUNO.COM (Brian Walker) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 06:18:30 -0500 Subject: NIK: news Message-ID: Great. Thank you very much. Yes, I was here for the BOC side of it! On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:13:37 +0100 Andy Gilham writes: > Brian asked: > > > Ok... I have to ask. Who is Hawkind and who is NIK? > > This is still the BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List, isn't it? :) I > guess you're > here for the BOC side - Hawkwind's the other topic here, a British > band > that's been around in one form or another for about 30 years. > (Lemmy out of > Motorhead used to be in Hawkwind.) Nik Turner is a founder member > who now > has a variety of other projects. > > Not everybody's into both bands, but this is the way it's always > been... > > -- Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; > http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jul 10 18:42:53 2000 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill Freeman) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:42:53 +0800 Subject: HW: Star Nation Message-ID: You're right! It is "pretty damn good" :-) Can't wait to get the cd. Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: Monday, 10 July 2000 4:49 AM Subject: HW: Star Nation > I'm probably stealing Keith's thunder here, but there's a real-audio track > by the Chadwick-Richards project, now apprently known as Star Nation, at: > > http://aural-innovations.com/radio/playlist.html#show02 > > And it's pretty damn good! > > -- Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Jul 10 18:51:35 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:51:35 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 7/8/00 Message-ID: 7/8/00 1.Popul Vuh--Song of the High Mountains (Sing, for Song Drives Away the Wolves) 2.Krom Lek--It Only Takes/Day Tuna (Inspirational Floatation Compilation) 3.Neutral Milk Hotel--Ghost (In the Aeroplane Over the Sea) 4.Mother Mallard--Cloudscape for Peggy ('70-'73) 5.Windy and Carl--Traveling (Antarctica) 6.Pink Floyd--Candy and a Currant Bun/The Scarecrow (Masters of Rock) 7.Mr. Quimby's Beard--Nebulae (The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries of...) 8.Hawkwind--Valium 10 (Motorhead single; Mighty Hawkwind Classics) 9.Alan Davey--Cosmic Dawn (The Elf and the Hawk) 10.Farflung--The Dead Sea (The Belief Module) 11.Frank Zappa/Mothers--Andy (One Size Fits All) 12.Ohm--Are You Ready? (Voices) 13.Kluster--22:09 excerpt (Space Box comp.) 14.Amon Duul 2--title track (Wolf City) thanks, Chuck "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS for WINAMP: Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS For REAL-AUDIO: KUCR is now available on RealPlayer from RealAudio. Many of you Windows and Mac users already have it so no download and installation would be necessary. Connect to the Internet and open RealPlayer. Select file from the menu and then "open location". Type in http://www.kucr.org:8000 and say OK. Repeat the process if you lose the station at any time. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jul 10 20:44:32 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:44:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: Gong/proggers Miriodor at 'Jazz' fest Message-ID: Edgefest Creative Music Festival - Ann Arbor, MI Oct. 5-7, 2000 Line-up is tentative and subject to change. The schedule as currently planned is below. The three venues are all quite small (seating less than 150 each). In addition to individual concert prices, a three-day pass will cost $60 (a $40 savings), and include preferred seating in the front rows at each concert. Reservations for passes or individual concerts can be made by calling (734) 769-2999. We would put you in the reservation book and payment is by cash or check at the door (no plastic). I hope we can soon post the complete festival line-up on our website at www.kerrytown.com/concerthouse. In the meantime, here's a bit of an advance look. I hope that when we finally nail everything down over the next month, the festival will look exactly as in the schedule below. Dave Lynch THURSDAY, OCTOBER 5, 2000 8 pm at Firefly Club -- Opening Night Extravaganza: Ann Arbor Meets Montreal ($15 or Edgepass) Miriodor (Bernard Falaise, guitar; R?mi Leclerc, drums; Pascal Globensky , keyboards; Nicolas Masino, bass, keyboards; Marie-Chantal Leclair, saxophones) sponsored by Cuneiform Records Steve Rush's Bitches Brew Project (Steve Rush, keyboards; Mark Kirschenmann, trumpet; Tim Flood, bass; Aaron Siegel, drums; Andrew Bishop, saxophones; Jeff Enderton, guitar; Alana Rocklin, bass; John Maloney, drums) L'Orkestre des Pas Perdus (Claude St. Jean, trombone; R?mi Leclerc, drums; Jean-Denis Levasseur, alto saxophone, piccolo, clarinet; Roberto Murray, tenor saxophone, flute; Jean Sabourin, sousaphone; Maxime St.-Pierre, trumpet, flugelhorn). FRIDAY, OCTOBER 6, 2000 4 pm at KCH (open to the public with free admission) Workshop/clinic with Marilyn Crispell, Reggie Workman, Gerald Cleaver and Spencer Barefield (critiques of small group improvisations by the U-M Creative Arts Orchestra) sponsored by the U-M Program in Jazz and Contemporary Improvisation and Southeastern Michigan Jazz Association. 8 pm at Kerrytown Concert House ($15 or Edgepass) Marilyn Crispell/Reggie Workman Ensemble (Marilyn Crispell, piano; Reggie Workman, bass; Gerald Cleaver, drums). 10 pm at Firefly Club ($10 or Edgepass) Gerald Cleaver's Veil of Names (Gerald Cleaver, drums; Andrew Bishop, saxophones; Craig Taborn, Fender Rhodes piano and synthesizer; Matt Maneri, viola; Ben Monder, guitar; Reid Anderson, bass). Midnight at Firefly Club ($10 or Edgepass) Reggie Workman/Spencer Barefield Duo (Reggie Workman, bass; Spencer Barefield, guitar) sponsored by the Creative Arts Collective. SATURDAY, OCTOBER 7, 2000 2 pm at Kerrytown Concert House ($5 or Edgepass) Lipson/Summerfield Band (Brian Lipson, trumpet; Toby Summerfield, guitar; Tim Brown, drums). 4 pm at Kerrytown Concert House (open to the public with free admission) Q&A with Phillip Johnston and Ken Vandermark: Approaches to Improvisation and Composition with Silent Films sponsored by the Southeastern Michigan Jazz Association. 7 pm at Kerrytown Concert House ($10 or Edgepass) Phillip Johnston's Transparent Quartet - The Georges M?li?s Project (live music accompanying eight short films by French silent filmmaker Georges M?li?s, with Phillip Johnston, soprano and tenor saxophones; Joe Ruddick, piano, baritone saxophone; Mark Josefsberg, vibraphone; David Hofstra, bass, tuba). 8:30 pm at Workbench Furniture - Triple Show: An International Creative Jazz and World Music Bash ($20 or Edgepass) Trevor Watts Moir? Music Group (Trevor Watts, alto and soprano saxophones; Colin McKenzie, bass; Marc Parnell, drums; Paapa J. Mensah, percussion, voice [from Ghana, West Africa]; Roberto Pla, Latin percussion [from Colombia]) DKV Trio (Hamid Drake, drums and percussion; Kent Kessler, bass; Ken Vandermark, tenor saxophone, clarinets) Vandermark 5 (Ken Vandermark, tenor saxophone, clarinets; Jeb Bishop, trombone, guitar; Kent Kessler, bass; Tim Mulvenna, drums; Dave Rempis, alto saxophone). Midnight at Firefly Club - The Late Show ($15 or Edgepass) Gong (Daevid Allen, vocals, glissando guitar; Gilli Smyth, poetess, space whisper; Mike Howlett, bass; Didier Malherbe, reeds; Pip Pyle, drums; Steffi Sharpstrings, guitar). From desdinova at BREATHEMAIL.NET Tue Jul 11 15:08:12 2000 From: desdinova at BREATHEMAIL.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:08:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: Gong/proggers Miriodor at 'Jazz' fest In-Reply-To: <200007110148.VAA28331@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: For anybody thinking of going, some of the less "obvious" acts may be of interest too (in fact, I really wish this was in my area....), so hereby my 2p worth for the benefit of interested parties: At 01:44 11/07/00, you wrote: >Steve Rush's Bitches Brew Project (Steve Rush, keyboards; Mark Kirschenmann, >trumpet; Tim Flood, bass; Aaron Siegel, drums; Andrew Bishop, saxophones; >Jeff Enderton, guitar; Alana Rocklin, bass; John Maloney, drums) I don't know anything about the individual musicians, but if they're working from a template of Miles Davis' Bitches brew it should be fun; a bit spacey, a bit funky and with quite a bit of jamming. >8pm at Kerrytown Concert House ($15 or Edgepass) >Marilyn Crispell/Reggie Workman Ensemble (Marilyn Crispell, piano; Reggie >Workman, bass; Gerald Cleaver, drums). Opposite to the above, don't really know what they'll be playing, but Crispell & Workman are OUTSTANDING musicians...my best bet is that they'll be quite "avant-garde", though not completely abandoning "tunes". >8:30 pm at Workbench Furniture - Triple Show: An International Creative Jazz >and World Music Bash ($20 or Edgepass) >Trevor Watts Moir? Music Group (Trevor Watts, alto and soprano saxophones; >Colin McKenzie, bass; Marc Parnell, drums; Paapa J. Mensah, percussion, >voice [from Ghana, West Africa]; Roberto Pla, Latin percussion [from >Colombia]) IMHO, unmissable, hypnotic interweaving rhythms. Trevor & Colin have worked together, on & off, for at least 20 years, so their understanding of each others playing verges on telepathic. I was at the Bracknell Festival debut of the first Moir? Music, and it's imprinted deep in my memory, this is "not-Jazz" of the finest kind & very spacey. >DKV Trio (Hamid Drake, drums and percussion; Kent Kessler, bass; Ken >Vandermark, tenor saxophone, clarinets) > >Vandermark 5 (Ken Vandermark, tenor saxophone, clarinets; Jeb Bishop, >trombone, guitar; Kent Kessler, bass; Tim Mulvenna, drums; Dave Rempis, alto >saxophone). I don't know about the trio, but the Vandermark 5 is a fearsome & full-on band, incredibly high-energy, and loud. If you think "jazz" is people tinkling on pianos in hotel bars, this lot should blow away your preconceptions!!! >Midnight at Firefly Club - The Late Show ($15 or Edgepass) >Gong (Daevid Allen, vocals, glissando guitar; Gilli Smyth, poetess, space >whisper; Mike Howlett, bass; Didier Malherbe, reeds; Pip Pyle, drums; Steffi >Sharpstrings, guitar). 'Nuff said *g* Hope this encourages someone to experiment!!! Cheers, ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce So do your good deed for the day - http://www.thehungersite.com From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jul 11 18:32:34 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:32:34 -0500 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: >DATE: 7/11//2000 >1. Legendary Pink Dots put out an All Points Bulletin > >After our show in denver on july 2 someone managed to steal >niels van hoorn's baritone saxophone. the side door of the club was open >after the show - close to niels' side of the stage, leaving ample >opportunity for someone to grab & run. > >those who have seen the band will recognize it as his biggest horn when >playing double sax. it is a very rare a. santoni par? baritone saxophone - >serial number: 43911. probably made in the 1950's or 1960's. it was in a >black form fitting carrying case. > >it is reported as stolen & might turn up in denver pawn shops, second hand >music shops or classified ads - etc. if you see it please contact the police >so that this stolen item can be returned to it's rightful owner. and also >...thanks..the legendary pink dots... > > >---------- > > Goodbye From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jul 11 19:40:33 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:40:33 -0700 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: PEOPLE WHO STEAL MUSICIANS' INSTRUMENTS ARE THE LOWEST FORM OF SCUM ON THIS PLANET AND DESERVE TO DIE EXTREMELY SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY. i cannot stress this point enough. -Doug (who's had a few instruments stolen from him...) ceres at sirius.com On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:32:34 -0500, "Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley" wrote: >>DATE: 7/11//2000 >>1. Legendary Pink Dots put out an All Points Bulletin >> >>After our show in denver on july 2 someone managed to steal >>niels van hoorn's baritone saxophone. From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Tue Jul 11 19:53:50 2000 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:53:50 -0700 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: > PEOPLE WHO STEAL MUSICIANS' INSTRUMENTS ARE THE LOWEST FORM OF SCUM ON THIS > PLANET AND DESERVE TO DIE EXTREMELY SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY. i cannot stress > this point enough. Amen brother! > -Doug (who's had a few instruments stolen from him...) > ceres at sirius.com As have I..... scorch From denis at D-RIDER.DE Tue Jul 11 20:26:22 2000 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 02:26:22 +0200 Subject: OFF: TV-Alert: Motorhead Message-ID: Hi all, maybe some of you (especially those living in Europe) are interested in the fact, that Motorhead will appear this Thursday on the German Harald-Schmidt-TV-Show (it's the equivalent of Jay Leno). The show runs on the SAT.1 channel and can be received in whole Europe over satellite. I hope they will not "only" play, but also answer some questions. (C)IAO D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jul 12 01:53:43 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:23:43 +0930 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: I reckon a fitting punishment for thieves of musicians instruments would be to take them up into outerspace on space shuttle missions then boot them out into the vaccuum with 5 or so hours of oxygen and leave em to cark it that way...... all in favour say aye ----- Original Message ----- From: John H. McCartney To: Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:23 AM Subject: Re: Other: LPD > > PEOPLE WHO STEAL MUSICIANS' INSTRUMENTS ARE THE LOWEST FORM OF SCUM ON THIS > > PLANET AND DESERVE TO DIE EXTREMELY SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY. i cannot stress > > this point enough. > > Amen brother! > > > -Doug (who's had a few instruments stolen from him...) > > ceres at sirius.com > > As have I..... > > > scorch > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jul 12 02:03:14 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:33:14 +0930 Subject: NIK: news Message-ID: Sorry man, Hawkwind is a wicked psychedelic space rock band that has been around for at least 30 years with various members. Dave Brock being the only original member. Check out an online music store such as amazon.com for US or sanity.com.au for australia and do a search for HAWKWIND some recomended titles Levitation Live Chronicles Quark, Strangeness and Charm Xenon Codex Hall Of The Mountain Grill to name a few and any of the others you see will undoubtably be cool also they rock they trip sincerely Michael blackman Cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Walker To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 1:04 PM Subject: Re: NIK: news > Seriously! > > On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:44:19 +0930 Michael Blackman > writes: > > yeah right > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Brian Walker > > To: > > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 3:53 AM > > Subject: Re: NIK: news > > > > > > > Ok... I have to ask. Who is Hawkind and who is NIK? > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 18:53:26 +0100 Andy Gilham > > > writes: > > > > Nik has a few gigs and things coming up - some you'll already > > know > > > > about, > > > > the two reunion band gigs - DikMik won't be at the shows after > > all > > > > (he's in > > > > Spain or something), so it'll be Nik, Huw, Terry and Thomas, > > playing > > > > old > > > > stuff, new stuff, jamming a lot. Then there's and the > > Stourbridge > > > > gig with > > > > Alan and others. > > > > > > > > Also, he'll be appearing with Five-Fifteen (from Finland) on > > October > > > > 7th at > > > > the "Rotherham Rocks"-festival, Oakwood Centre, United Kingdom > > > > (http://www.novision.fi/fivefifteen/tour.html), and at the Big > > Green > > > > Gathering (www.big-green-gathering.com) with The All-Stars on > > the > > > > Friday, > > > > and with Trev Thoms on the Saturday. Nik is finishing up the > > > > All-Stars > > > > album, everybody wants to redo their parts in the studio, but > > it's > > > > progressing and will see the light of day at some point... Nik's > > > > also going > > > > to be adding some sax to Trev's new album, which he's been off > > > > making in > > > > Italy, and they're also finishing in the studio. > > > > > > > > What else... an All-Stars gig on 23rd July, a garden party (open > > to > > > > the > > > > public!) at Hermon, near Cardigan, Pemrbokeshire; and if you're > > in > > > > the area, > > > > Nik will be busking on August 19th in Barmouth, Gwynedd, and on > > > > September > > > > 9th in Narberth, Pembs. > > > > > > > > Oh, and there's plans to re-reissue the Sphynx XITINTODAY album, > > and > > > > also an > > > > old live Sphynx show from 1978. And Nik has also been invited > > to > > > > next > > > > year's Baja festival in Mexico. > > > > > > > > I think that's it for the time being! > > > > > > > > -- Andy > > > > > > > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; > > > > http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > > > > From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 12 06:21:30 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Zebulon Mysterioso) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:21:30 GMT Subject: OFF: Sloterdijk Message-ID: Sloterdijk's debut release on Lollipop Shop Records Sloterdijk's debut release entitled "Integration" contains 8 tracks, including two live cuts from the winter 99 european tour, is now available on Lollipop Shop Records, Berlin, Germany. Track listing is as follows: Integration, Sexknowledgy, Le Guide, Happy Anniversary, Fred Goldman's Moustache, The Thunderbirds, Unnamed Psychedelic Jam, Cryogenics. For ordering information please contact "The Lollipop Shop" directly. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 12 06:42:11 2000 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trevor thoms) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 03:42:11 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hi there, Judge Trev will be appearing at the Big Green Gathering on wed 26 July at the Ploughmans Cafe at 9 pm. Nik will be playing too if he can manage to learn the new set which will feature songs from Trev's new album, "God and Man". This will be the world's first performance of this awesome stuff. Trev will also play with Nik's All-Stars when they support Gong, I think on friday. Tickets available from Sam Hermitage: info at gfutures.demon.couk Love, Trev (judge) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From desdinova at BREATHEMAIL.NET Wed Jul 12 04:52:12 2000 From: desdinova at BREATHEMAIL.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:52:12 +0100 Subject: Other: LPD In-Reply-To: <001c01bfebc5$8a218340$46a66ccb@arcom> Message-ID: AYE At 06:53 12/07/00, you wrote: >I reckon a fitting punishment for thieves of musicians instruments would be >to take them up into outerspace on space shuttle missions then boot them out >into the vaccuum with 5 or so hours of oxygen and leave em to cark it that >way...... > >all in favour say aye > >----- Original Message ----- >From: John H. McCartney >To: >Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:23 AM >Subject: Re: Other: LPD > > > > > PEOPLE WHO STEAL MUSICIANS' INSTRUMENTS ARE THE LOWEST FORM OF SCUM ON >THIS > > > PLANET AND DESERVE TO DIE EXTREMELY SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY. i cannot >stress > > > this point enough. > > > > Amen brother! > > > > > -Doug (who's had a few instruments stolen from him...) > > > ceres at sirius.com > > > > As have I..... > > > > > > scorch > > From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Wed Jul 12 08:49:50 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:49:50 -0400 Subject: Other: LPD In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000712095150.00b63960@pophost1.breathemail.net> Message-ID: NO! I am voting for skinning them alive and throwing them in a salt bath. _______________________ Michael S. Habiby VP Sales and Marketing the CableShoppe, inc. One Prospect Ave. Albany, NY 12206 (800) 386-2300 (518) 489-0269 - fax cableshoppe at global2000.net or mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com ________________________ "The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -- Plutarch. >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of Chris Warburton >Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:52 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Other: LPD > > >AYE >At 06:53 12/07/00, you wrote: >>I reckon a fitting punishment for thieves of musicians >instruments would be >>to take them up into outerspace on space shuttle missions then >boot them out >>into the vaccuum with 5 or so hours of oxygen and leave em to cark it that >>way...... >> >>all in favour say aye >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: John H. McCartney >>To: >>Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:23 AM >>Subject: Re: Other: LPD >> >> >> > > PEOPLE WHO STEAL MUSICIANS' INSTRUMENTS ARE THE LOWEST FORM >OF SCUM ON >>THIS >> > > PLANET AND DESERVE TO DIE EXTREMELY SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY. i cannot >>stress >> > > this point enough. >> > >> > Amen brother! >> > >> > > -Doug (who's had a few instruments stolen from him...) >> > > ceres at sirius.com >> > >> > As have I..... >> > >> > >> > scorch >> > > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 12 08:59:35 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:59:35 EDT Subject: Other: LPD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12 Jul 00, at 8:49, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > NO! > > I am voting for skinning them alive and throwing them in a salt bath. > I've got 2 Dobermans with growling stomachs...nah, I wouldn't feed that shit to my dogs! theo From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed Jul 12 09:13:14 2000 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:13:14 -0400 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: In the words of Hanover Fist Growl "Hangin's too good for 'em" "Burnin's too good for 'em" "They should be ripped up into tiny little pieces and buried alive!!!!" Growl! "Kill!!!!!!!" > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Jackson jr. [SMTP:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:00 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Other: LPD > > On 12 Jul 00, at 8:49, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > > > NO! > > > > I am voting for skinning them alive and throwing them in a salt bath. > > > I've got 2 Dobermans with growling stomachs...nah, I wouldn't feed > that shit to my dogs! > > theo From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Jul 12 09:28:47 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:28:47 +0100 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: I'm for flinging them into a pit of well fed wolves. And wait for them to get hungry. R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael S. Habiby" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 1:49 PM Subject: Re: Other: LPD > NO! > > I am voting for skinning them alive and throwing them in a salt bath. > > _______________________ > Michael S. Habiby > VP Sales and Marketing > the CableShoppe, inc. > One Prospect Ave. > Albany, NY 12206 > (800) 386-2300 > (518) 489-0269 - fax > cableshoppe at global2000.net > or mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com > ________________________ > "The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -- > Plutarch. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > >Behalf Of Chris Warburton > >Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:52 AM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: Other: LPD > > > > > >AYE > >At 06:53 12/07/00, you wrote: > >>I reckon a fitting punishment for thieves of musicians > >instruments would be > >>to take them up into outerspace on space shuttle missions then > >boot them out > >>into the vaccuum with 5 or so hours of oxygen and leave em to cark it that > >>way...... > >> > >>all in favour say aye > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: John H. McCartney > >>To: > >>Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:23 AM > >>Subject: Re: Other: LPD > >> > >> > >> > > PEOPLE WHO STEAL MUSICIANS' INSTRUMENTS ARE THE LOWEST FORM > >OF SCUM ON > >>THIS > >> > > PLANET AND DESERVE TO DIE EXTREMELY SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY. i cannot > >>stress > >> > > this point enough. > >> > > >> > Amen brother! > >> > > >> > > -Doug (who's had a few instruments stolen from him...) > >> > > ceres at sirius.com > >> > > >> > As have I..... > >> > > >> > > >> > scorch > >> > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Wed Jul 12 14:37:29 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:37:29 -0500 Subject: HW: Star Nation cancelled Message-ID: Bad news folks, the richards/chadwick new project has been cancelled. For those of you who were planning to go see the mini tour you should still CHECK AND SEE if the show is happening with Harvey as the headliner. It's probably too early for most schedules to reflect the change, but they should soon. The only date so far that has been cancelled completely is Milwaukee. The sd2000 festival is STILL happening just as planned, without Star Nation though. Check Jim's site for more info as it becomes available. Sorry for the shitty news everybody. dan From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed Jul 12 14:53:57 2000 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:53:57 -0700 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: > > I'm for flinging them into a pit of well fed wolves. And wait for them to > get hungry. > I dunno, I'd prefer to use the '1984' trick - cageful of hungry rats strapped to their face..... And, just because I'm a sadistic bastard, I'd soften them up with lots of crap music first; Debby Boone, Leo Sayer, Neil Sedaka, etc., all at 11, of course..... :) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Jul 12 15:01:26 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:01:26 -0700 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:53:57 -0700, "John H. McCartney" wrote: >And, just because I'm a sadistic bastard, I'd soften them up with lots >of crap music first; Debby Boone, Leo Sayer, Neil Sedaka, etc., all >at 11, of course..... :) OH NO! It's the ... DEATH GENERATOR ... music! ;^) (good thing that the Carpenters weren't listed, though, since they DID record a spacerock song ... of sorts ...) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Jul 12 15:04:35 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:04:35 -0700 Subject: HW: Star Nation cancelled Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:37:29 -0500, Dan Witt wrote: >Bad news folks, the richards/chadwick new project has been cancelled. > >The sd2000 festival is STILL happening just as planned, without Star >Nation though. > >Sorry for the shitty news everybody. Aaargh! At least ... A) As Hawkwind fans, we're used to this kind of thing happening. B) At least we got an advance warning this time; as Hawkwind fans, that's probably better than we're used to ... See y'all at SD2K regardless ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From TNHong at DATACOLLECT.COM Wed Jul 12 15:12:44 2000 From: TNHong at DATACOLLECT.COM (Todd Hong) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:12:44 -0500 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: ...and that cosmic Carpenters song would be what? Todd H -----Original Message----- From: Doug Pearson [mailto:ceres at SIRIUS.COM] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 2:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Other: LPD On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:53:57 -0700, "John H. McCartney" wrote: >And, just because I'm a sadistic bastard, I'd soften them up with lots >of crap music first; Debby Boone, Leo Sayer, Neil Sedaka, etc., all >at 11, of course..... :) OH NO! It's the ... DEATH GENERATOR ... music! ;^) (good thing that the Carpenters weren't listed, though, since they DID record a spacerock song ... of sorts ...) -Doug ceres at sirius.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed Jul 12 15:19:41 2000 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:19:41 -0700 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: > > ...and that cosmic Carpenters song would be what? > That would be "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft" scorch From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jul 12 14:30:00 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:30:00 -0400 Subject: HW: Star Nation cancelled Message-ID: Dan (Don't shoot the messanger) Witt writes... >Bad news folks, the richards/chadwick new project has been cancelled. >For those of you who were planning to go see the mini tour you should >still CHECK AND SEE if the show is happening with Harvey as the >headliner. It's probably too early for most schedules to reflect the >change, but they should soon. The only date so far that has been >cancelled completely is Milwaukee. > >The sd2000 festival is STILL happening just as planned, without Star >Nation though. > >Check Jim's site for more info as it becomes available. This is really very crappy news. It does say 'personal reasons' so I'm assuming it's not a financial decision. And I wonder about Richard's girlfriend that was on dialysis for a long while...I hope she's ok. (She was a 'Hippy Slag' w/ Bridgett if you know the T.A.T. album. That's right, innit?) Well, without trying to sound so negative - as nice as it would be to see what Harvey's been up to, I can't see as though this tour is going to do much of anything wonderful for 'space rock.' In fact, it could very well hurt things, if a seemingly 'half-assed' attempt at keeping it on is chosen. I imagine that if Paul (of Quarkspace) wants to still play w/ Harvey + whoever else, it'll have to be moved back over to Ruby's...I doubt a club like Little Bros. will keep the show. And because it's already been advertised with 'Hawkwind' in the description, people are going to be confused. I would argue that Jim should probably bag the whole thing, and just concentrate on quickly getting a 'headlining' quality act to put on Saturday evening at SD2000. Who though? This year had so much promise! What the hell happened? Oh, well, I always have a great time at SD, and I'm one that doesn't much care how big the names are. But I recognize that Jim can't be successful without them. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Jerry told me that he's got a CD-R with 4 Star Nation tracks, and that the one he put up on A-I.com radio was the one really good one. (Please don't ask me to burn a bunch of pirate copies for everyone...I don't know what the band's intentions are for them. Especially now.) P.P.S. The Ozrics have a new CD out, I see. Anybody heard it? From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Jul 12 15:31:14 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:31:14 -0700 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:19:41 -0700, "John H. McCartney" wrote: >> >> ...and that cosmic Carpenters song would be what? >> >That would be "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft" > > A Klaatu cover, no less. (?!!???!) Man, those 70s were one weird decade. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Wed Jul 12 15:49:42 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:49:42 -0400 Subject: Other: LPD In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000712123114.009a2b90@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: Sometimes I just cant believe I lived through a decade that both brought us disco and the finest progressive music at the same time. > >A Klaatu cover, no less. (?!!???!) Man, those 70s were one weird decade. > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > _______________________ Michael S. Habiby VP Sales and Marketing the CableShoppe, inc. One Prospect Ave. Albany, NY 12206 (800) 386-2300 (518) 489-0269 - fax cableshoppe at global2000.net or mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com ________________________ "The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -- Plutarch. From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Wed Jul 12 16:00:24 2000 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:00:24 -0600 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: Klaatu's "Calling all Occupants of Interstellar Craft" The Carpenters had a big hit on it!! The original is much better:) Pam Todd Hong wrote: > > > ...and that cosmic Carpenters song would be what? > > Todd H > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Pearson [mailto:ceres at SIRIUS.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 2:01 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Other: LPD > > On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:53:57 -0700, "John H. McCartney" > wrote: > >And, just because I'm a sadistic bastard, I'd soften them up with > lots > >of crap music first; Debby Boone, Leo Sayer, Neil Sedaka, etc., all > >at 11, of course..... :) > > OH NO! It's the ... DEATH GENERATOR ... music! ;^) (good thing that > the > Carpenters weren't listed, though, since they DID record a spacerock > song > ... of sorts ...) > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jul 12 18:07:57 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:07:57 -0500 Subject: Other: LPD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: HEAVY.... At 09:13 AM 07/12/2000 -0400, you wrote: >In the words of Hanover Fist > >Growl >"Hangin's too good for 'em" >"Burnin's too good for 'em" >"They should be ripped up into tiny little pieces and buried alive!!!!" >Growl! >"Kill!!!!!!!" > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ted Jackson jr. [SMTP:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:00 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >> Subject: Re: Other: LPD >> >> On 12 Jul 00, at 8:49, Michael S. Habiby wrote: >> >> > NO! >> > >> > I am voting for skinning them alive and throwing them in a salt bath. >> > >> I've got 2 Dobermans with growling stomachs...nah, I wouldn't feed >> that shit to my dogs! >> >> theo > Goodbye From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jul 12 18:10:01 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:10:01 -0500 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: Name That Tune. At 12:01 PM 07/12/2000 -0700, you wrote: > > >OH NO! It's the ... DEATH GENERATOR ... music! ;^) (good thing that the >Carpenters weren't listed, though, since they DID record a spacerock song >... of sorts ...) > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > Goodbye From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jul 12 18:15:21 2000 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:15:21 +0100 Subject: Bedouin/AoS dates Message-ID: Title says it all... July 21st Standard Music Venue, 1, Blackhorse Roda, Walthamstow. AoS August 4th Rock Cafe 2000, Stourbridge.01384 390918. AoS 5th Scallys, Carlton Street, Westo Super Mare. 01934 412541 AoS 10th The Limelight, Crewe. 01270 255519. Bedouin 11th Scallys, Carlton Street, Westo Super Mare. 01934 412541 Bedouin ** -OFF- 12th Bulldog Bash Bike Rally. Bedouin ** 25th Sneaky Pete's , Mausoleum Drive, Strathclyde Park, Hamilton.01698 286505 AoS 26th Sneaky Pete's , Mausoleum Drive, Strathclyde Park, Hamilton.01698 286505 AoS (Yes two days of deafness) Sept 28th Running Horse, 16, Alfreton Road, Nottingham.0115 9787398. Bedouin 30th now Rock Cafe 2000, Stourbridge. 01384 390918. All day 12:00pm to 12:00am event. Harvey Bainbridge set, Bedouin set, then a set with Nik Turner, Alan Davey, Harvey Bainbridge, Danny Thompson, Trev Toms. Also stalls/exhibitions Oct 6th Half Moon, 93,Richmond Road, Putney.0181 7809383 Bedouin 7th Army and Navy,138, Parkway, Chelmsford.01245 354155. Bedouin 20th Zaks, Milton Keynes.01908 315447. Bedouin ** To be confirmed ** 27th Victoria Inn, 12, Midland Place, Derby.01332 740091. AoS 28th Axe and Cleaver,16, West Street, Boston.01205 367300. AoS Nov 2nd Alexanders Jazz Theatre, Rufus Court, Chester.01244 340005. Bedouin 3rd The Rigger, Marsh Parade, Newcastle-Under-Lyme.01782 616602. Bedouin 4th Uplands Tavern, 42,Uplands Cres., Swansea.01792 458242. AoS 9th The Limelight, Crewe. 01270 255519. AoS 10th The Woodman, Black Fern Road, Sidcup. 0181 850 3181 Bedouin ** OFF 11th Rye Community Center, Rye. Bedouin ** 11th Esquires Club, Greyfriars Road, Bedford. 01234 217171 AoS 24th Axe and Cleaver, 16, West Street, Boston.01205 367300. Bedouin 25th Running Horse,16 Alfreton Road Nottingham.0115 9787398. AoS Dec 1st Uplands Tavern, 42,Uplands Cres., Swansea.01792 458242. Bedouin 2nd Community Centre, Rye, Sussex. 07899 676723. Bedouin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jul 12 20:16:27 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:46:27 +0930 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: And then, after the skinning & salt bath, send them into outer space...... {like I described before} ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael S. Habiby To: Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 10:19 PM Subject: Re: Other: LPD > NO! > > I am voting for skinning them alive and throwing them in a salt bath. > > _______________________ > Michael S. Habiby > VP Sales and Marketing > the CableShoppe, inc. > One Prospect Ave. > Albany, NY 12206 > (800) 386-2300 > (518) 489-0269 - fax > cableshoppe at global2000.net > or mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com > ________________________ > "The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -- > Plutarch. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > >Behalf Of Chris Warburton > >Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:52 AM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: Other: LPD > > > > > >AYE > >At 06:53 12/07/00, you wrote: > >>I reckon a fitting punishment for thieves of musicians > >instruments would be > >>to take them up into outerspace on space shuttle missions then > >boot them out > >>into the vaccuum with 5 or so hours of oxygen and leave em to cark it that > >>way...... > >> > >>all in favour say aye > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: John H. McCartney > >>To: > >>Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:23 AM > >>Subject: Re: Other: LPD > >> > >> > >> > > PEOPLE WHO STEAL MUSICIANS' INSTRUMENTS ARE THE LOWEST FORM > >OF SCUM ON > >>THIS > >> > > PLANET AND DESERVE TO DIE EXTREMELY SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY. i cannot > >>stress > >> > > this point enough. > >> > > >> > Amen brother! > >> > > >> > > -Doug (who's had a few instruments stolen from him...) > >> > > ceres at sirius.com > >> > > >> > As have I..... > >> > > >> > > >> > scorch > >> > > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jul 12 20:17:15 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:47:15 +0930 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: I'll second that!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Hall, Russell J To: Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 10:43 PM Subject: Re: Other: LPD > In the words of Hanover Fist > > Growl > "Hangin's too good for 'em" > "Burnin's too good for 'em" > "They should be ripped up into tiny little pieces and buried alive!!!!" > Growl! > "Kill!!!!!!!" > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ted Jackson jr. [SMTP:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:00 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: Other: LPD > > > > On 12 Jul 00, at 8:49, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > > > > > NO! > > > > > > I am voting for skinning them alive and throwing them in a salt bath. > > > > > I've got 2 Dobermans with growling stomachs...nah, I wouldn't feed > > that shit to my dogs! > > > > theo > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jul 12 20:17:40 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:47:40 +0930 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Lockwood To: Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 10:58 PM Subject: Re: Other: LPD > I'm for flinging them into a pit of well fed wolves. And wait for them to > get hungry. > > R. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael S. Habiby" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 1:49 PM > Subject: Re: Other: LPD > > > > NO! > > > > I am voting for skinning them alive and throwing them in a salt bath. > > > > _______________________ > > Michael S. Habiby > > VP Sales and Marketing > > the CableShoppe, inc. > > One Prospect Ave. > > Albany, NY 12206 > > (800) 386-2300 > > (518) 489-0269 - fax > > cableshoppe at global2000.net > > or mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com > > ________________________ > > "The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -- > > Plutarch. > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > >Behalf Of Chris Warburton > > >Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:52 AM > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > >Subject: Re: Other: LPD > > > > > > > > >AYE > > >At 06:53 12/07/00, you wrote: > > >>I reckon a fitting punishment for thieves of musicians > > >instruments would be > > >>to take them up into outerspace on space shuttle missions then > > >boot them out > > >>into the vaccuum with 5 or so hours of oxygen and leave em to cark it > that > > >>way...... > > >> > > >>all in favour say aye > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: John H. McCartney > > >>To: > > >>Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:23 AM > > >>Subject: Re: Other: LPD > > >> > > >> > > >> > > PEOPLE WHO STEAL MUSICIANS' INSTRUMENTS ARE THE LOWEST FORM > > >OF SCUM ON > > >>THIS > > >> > > PLANET AND DESERVE TO DIE EXTREMELY SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY. i cannot > > >>stress > > >> > > this point enough. > > >> > > > >> > Amen brother! > > >> > > > >> > > -Doug (who's had a few instruments stolen from him...) > > >> > > ceres at sirius.com > > >> > > > >> > As have I..... > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > scorch > > >> > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Jul 12 20:20:19 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:50:19 +0930 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: Now the rats would be fitting but making them listen to that music...... Yeah what the hell!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: John H. McCartney To: Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 4:23 AM Subject: Re: Other: LPD > > > > I'm for flinging them into a pit of well fed wolves. And wait for them to > > get hungry. > > > > > I dunno, I'd prefer to use the '1984' trick - cageful of hungry rats > strapped to their face..... > > And, just because I'm a sadistic bastard, I'd soften them up with lots > of crap music first; Debby Boone, Leo Sayer, Neil Sedaka, etc., all > at 11, of course..... :) > > From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Jul 13 05:04:12 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:04:12 +0100 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: I'm assuming "Calling Occupants..." :-) Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Hong" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 8:12 PM Subject: Re: Other: LPD > ....and that cosmic Carpenters song would be what? > > Todd H > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Pearson [mailto:ceres at SIRIUS.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 2:01 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Other: LPD > > > On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:53:57 -0700, "John H. McCartney" > wrote: > >And, just because I'm a sadistic bastard, I'd soften them up with lots > >of crap music first; Debby Boone, Leo Sayer, Neil Sedaka, etc., all > >at 11, of course..... :) > > OH NO! It's the ... DEATH GENERATOR ... music! ;^) (good thing that the > Carpenters weren't listed, though, since they DID record a spacerock song > .... of sorts ...) > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Jul 13 05:06:11 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:06:11 +0100 Subject: Bedouin/AoS dates Message-ID: >Title says it all... >July >21st Standard Music Venue, 1, Blackhorse Roda, Walthamstow. AoS Oh B0LL0CKS! I've waited for ages to see Bedouin - and then they play London on the same night as Half Man Half Biscuit. @RSE! :-( Cheers, Rich. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Jul 13 05:12:26 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:12:26 +0100 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: > Klaatu's "Calling all Occupants of Interstellar Craft" The Carpenters > had a big hit on it!! The original is much better:) > Pam > Where can I get a copy of this? Cheers, Rich. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Jul 13 07:18:54 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:18:54 +0100 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: 's OK. Found a real audio link. Cheers, Rich. > > Klaatu's "Calling all Occupants of Interstellar Craft" The Carpenters > > had a big hit on it!! The original is much better:) > > Pam > > > > Where can I get a copy of this? > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Thu Jul 13 11:40:51 2000 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:40:51 -0600 Subject: Other: LPD Message-ID: I think Amazon.com has the re-release. It has their first album( 3:47 E.S.T. ,aka self-titled) and Hope, which is even better in my book! Pam Richard Lockwood wrote: > > Klaatu's "Calling all Occupants of Interstellar Craft" The Carpenters > > had a big hit on it!! The original is much better:) > > Pam > > > > Where can I get a copy of this? > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace > P.S. Jerry told me that he's got a CD-R with 4 Star Nation tracks, and that > the one he put up on A-I.com radio was the one really good one. (Please > don't ask me to burn a bunch of pirate copies for everyone...I don't know > what the band's intentions are for them. Especially now.) ========================== OK - this is going to be a plug but I have to nip this in the bud before CD pirates start to zoom up. The CD-R is a limited edition of 50 copies only and the remaining 47 are being sold by CD Services Mail Order. They are hand-painted original artwork by Richard, autographed by the group, and won't be repressed once they have gone. They were only manufactured for the USA dates, but Jerry told me today that they have been cancelled. If anyone wants an original, I'm sure you know where to e.mail by now, but I will warn you that the high price the group need to cover their costs of doing it, means we have to ask for the retail price as virtually a normal album price for a 5-track EP. Sorry about the plug - if you don't like it, don't complain to me. But as fans who want things like this, it would be a bit silly if you didn't know what was going on. Happy to serve, Andy Garibaldi. From flossbac at NLCI.COM Thu Jul 13 17:55:09 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:55:09 -0500 Subject: HW: Star Nation cancelled Message-ID: Hey Andy.... Save one for me! email me privately with the ordering info etc. John Majka 328 Lawn Avenue West Lafayette, IN 47906 USA flossbac at nlci.com > > P.S. Jerry told me that he's got a CD-R with 4 Star Nation tracks, and > that > > the one he put up on A-I.com radio was the one really good one. (Please > > don't ask me to burn a bunch of pirate copies for everyone...I don't know > > what the band's intentions are for them. Especially now.) > ========================== > OK - this is going to be a plug but I have to nip this in the bud before CD > pirates start to zoom up. > The CD-R is a limited edition of 50 copies only and the remaining 47 are > being sold by CD Services Mail Order. They are hand-painted original artwork > by Richard, autographed by the group, and won't be repressed once they have > gone. They were only manufactured for the USA dates, but Jerry told me today > that they have been cancelled. > If anyone wants an original, I'm sure you know where to e.mail by now, but I > will warn you that the high price the group need to cover their costs of > doing it, means we have to ask for the retail price as virtually a normal > album price for a 5-track EP. > Sorry about the plug - if you don't like it, don't complain to me. But as > fans who want things like this, it would be a bit silly if you didn't know > what was going on. > Happy to serve, > Andy Garibaldi. > From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Thu Jul 13 14:57:49 2000 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Sara Zaza) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 18:57:49 -0000 Subject: Star Nation pullout Message-ID: Grakkl wrote: In a message dated 07/13/2000 3:55:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM writes: << I've attended all of them and always had a great time as well, but I admit I was a little alarmed by last year's low turnout. The worst thing about it was that when Nik came on, all of a sudden all these people appeared from out of the woods/campsite and things finally looked like a festival. When most of the other bands were playing, however, there were maybe 30-50 people milling around. That's why I hope that people will support the tour this year in spite of the obvious disappointment we all feel. John Stanton >> ---was it just me, or was ST-37 not on the bill this time? Chuck From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Jul 14 02:19:10 2000 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill Freeman) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:19:10 +0800 Subject: HW: Star Nation cancelled Message-ID: Hi Andy Save one for me too please:-) Bill Freeman 58 Ravenscroft Way Kelmscott WA 6111 Australia For personal details regarding shipping, costs etc. please email me privately at freeaqua at iinet.net.au Regards Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Friday, 14 July 2000 2:19 AM Subject: Re: HW: Star Nation cancelled > > P.S. Jerry told me that he's got a CD-R with 4 Star Nation tracks, and > that > > the one he put up on A-I.com radio was the one really good one. (Please > > don't ask me to burn a bunch of pirate copies for everyone...I don't know > > what the band's intentions are for them. Especially now.) > ========================== > OK - this is going to be a plug but I have to nip this in the bud before CD > pirates start to zoom up. > The CD-R is a limited edition of 50 copies only and the remaining 47 are > being sold by CD Services Mail Order. They are hand-painted original artwork > by Richard, autographed by the group, and won't be repressed once they have > gone. They were only manufactured for the USA dates, but Jerry told me today > that they have been cancelled. > If anyone wants an original, I'm sure you know where to e.mail by now, but I > will warn you that the high price the group need to cover their costs of > doing it, means we have to ask for the retail price as virtually a normal > album price for a 5-track EP. > Sorry about the plug - if you don't like it, don't complain to me. But as > fans who want things like this, it would be a bit silly if you didn't know > what was going on. > Happy to serve, > Andy Garibaldi. > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 14 05:06:32 2000 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trevor thoms) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:06:32 GMT Subject: Nik & Trev BGG Message-ID: >Hi there, > Sorry, I forgot to write the subject when I sent this before, and the Judge Trev date was a day too early. >Judge Trev will be appearing at the Big Green Gathering on Thu 27 July at >the Ploughmans Cafe at 9 pm. Nik will be playing too if he can manage to >learn the new set which will feature songs from Trev's new album, "God and >Man". This will be the world's first performance of this awesome stuff. > >Trev will also play with Nik's All-Stars when they support Gong, I think on >friday. I notice that a lot of people use my real name Trev Thoms. Please try to use Judge Trev, because there are forces in this world which Trev Thoms is trying to evade. Cough cough say no more! >Tickets available from Sam Hermitage: info at gfutures.demon.couk > >Love, Trev (judge) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 14 06:35:53 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 11:35:53 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind reunion gig in Birkenhead - sat 15th Message-ID: Is this still on? What's the latest lineup? Is anyone from the list going? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 14 06:41:25 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 11:41:25 +0100 Subject: Spare Hawkwind items for sale Message-ID: Born To Go/Lord of Light/Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven German 2 x 7" This has a stained and scuffed sleeve but the singles themselves are in good condition. 12 Pounds + P&P Undisclosed Files CD - a compilation of live tracks from 1984 and 1988. Orgone Accumulator is a very punkish version and should be heard if you haven't already. Curse of Man appears nowhere else. Most other tracks are versions that don't appear elsewhere except for one track on Ambient Anarchists. 10 Pounds +P&P Orgone Accumulator Sonic Attack Watching The Grass Grow Damned By The Curse of Man Ghost Dance Coded Languages Ejection Motorway City Dragons and Fables Heads Angels of Death From denis at D-RIDER.DE Fri Jul 14 08:36:52 2000 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:36:52 +0200 Subject: HW: Star Nation cancelled In-Reply-To: <016b01bfed07$4c64ed60$d29abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Hi, [snip] please save one for me, too. Denis Regenbrecht Haefenmarkt 14 98673 Eisfeld My email-adress is: denis at d-rider.de thanx D+R From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jul 14 09:54:04 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:54:04 -0400 Subject: HW: Promoting space rock (was Re: HW: Star Nation cancelled) Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > OK - this is going to be a plug but I have to nip this in the bud before CD > pirates start to zoom up. > The CD-R is a limited edition of 50 copies only and the remaining 47 are > being sold by CD Services Mail Order. They are hand-painted original artwork > by Richard, autographed by the group, and won't be repressed once they have > gone. They were only manufactured for the USA dates, but Jerry told me today > that they have been cancelled. With all the recent talk of "supporting the space rock scene," and how we should do everything to widen its audience and help it grow, is it just me, or does limiting a release to only 50 CD-Rs do *ANYTHING* towards that end? How does this bring space rock to the masses? Sure, the people who happen to be subscribed to and reading this group who happen to see the announcement of this material for sale (or who are CDS subscribers now) may get a chance to get one of the remaining 47 copies, and will probably enjoy them very much, but the rest (including space rock fans yet-to-be) are pretty much SOL. IMHO, this kind of thing smacks of elitism, and plays right into the hands of the pirates. I can understand making the hand-painted, signed edition a very limited run, but not making the music available in a "normal" form (assuming there is a demand) is not going to encourage it to be heard beyond a tiny clique. Is this about the music, or about Kollecting? Cheers, Paul. PS: It comes to something when we speak of "repressing" CD-Rs. Let's hope the paint is kind to the CD-R label, or else pretty soon you'll have 50 circular paintings and little else... :-) e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jul 14 10:53:43 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:53:43 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind reunion gig in Birkenhead - sat 15th In-Reply-To: <200007141035.LAA01421@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yes, this is on, as of last Sunday, anyway - it's Nik, Huw, Terry and Thomas. DikMik's in Spain or something. I'm planning on going to the South Wales gig next Friday (unless the weather's really shite!), but not Birkenhead. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: 14 July 2000 11:36 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Hawkwind reunion gig in Birkenhead - sat 15th > > > Is this still on? What's the latest lineup? Is anyone from the list > going? > > FoFP > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 14 11:15:55 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:15:55 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind reunion gig in Birkenhead - sat 15th In-Reply-To: Andy Gilham's message of Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:53:43 +0100 Message-ID: Andy Gilham writes: > Yes, this is on, as of last Sunday, anyway - it's Nik, Huw, Terry and > Thomas. DikMik's in Spain or something. It wouldn't really be Hawkwind without someone to play synth. FoFP From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Jul 14 11:29:17 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:29:17 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind reunion gig in Birkenhead - sat 15th Message-ID: > > It wouldn't really be Hawkwind without someone to play synth. > Couldn't they drag someone out of the audience to make "SHHHHHWWWEEEEEEOOOOOOOEEEEEEOOOOOOEEEEEEESSSHHHHHHHHWANGAWANGAWANGASHHHHHH" noises into a microphone and then put it through a flanger? ;-) Cheers, Rich. (Who once saw a band in Newcastle do this when they realised their synth had packed up...) (Honest!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Fri Jul 14 11:57:06 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:57:06 +0100 Subject: Alan Davey at ebay Message-ID: I've just e-bayed the following; Alan Davey / Hawkwind - The Elf EP 2 x 7" singles with original insert and as a special bonus the insert for Hawkfan 12 The URL is http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=382328649 regards, Stuart From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 14 11:54:32 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 11:54:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: SD2K Message-ID: Chuck writes... ><< I've attended all of them and always had a great time as well, but I admit > was a little alarmed by last year's low turnout. The worst thing about it > was that when Nik came on, all of a sudden all these people appeared from > out of the woods/campsite and things finally looked like a festival. When > most of the other bands were playing, however, there were maybe 30-50 people > milling around. That's why I hope that people will support the tour this > year in spite of the obvious disappointment we all feel.>> > >---was it just me, or was ST-37 not on the bill this time? Ummmm...I don't get what you're asking/saying, man. Is this a factual question about what the lineups were/are, or is this an expressed opinion? Anyway, the facts are...no, ST37 was not on the bill last year (they came in 1998), but they're on the bill again this year (2000). I really like their new CD, 'I like to talk...' and am really looking forward to seeing them again. But I don't suppose that there are too many folks making their decision about whether to go to SD2K based on their presence or not. It's not as they're as well known as Hawkwind or anything. Jim's site lists TBA on the Sat. 9-11 slot now, and I wonder what he's going to do. My vote would be for a 'Sun Machine' reunion show (note the irony), assuming the two Steves would be there, Doug W., Dann Diefer (where's he been the last few years?), and a Marianetti or two. At least we could pretend Hawkwind was there, and the really drunk and/or stoned people probably wouldn't know the difference anyhoo. Grakkl (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 14 13:00:28 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:00:28 -0400 Subject: HW: Promoting space rock Message-ID: Paul opines... >> OK - this is going to be a plug but I have to nip this in the bud before CD >> pirates start to zoom up. >> The CD-R is a limited edition of 50 copies only and the remaining 47 are >> being sold by CD Services Mail Order. They are hand-painted original artwork >> by Richard, autographed by the group, and won't be repressed once they have >> gone. They were only manufactured for the USA dates, but Jerry told me today >> that they have been cancelled. > >With all the recent talk of "supporting the space rock scene," and how >we should do everything to widen its audience and help it grow, is it >just me, or does limiting a release to only 50 CD-Rs do *ANYTHING* >towards that end? How does this bring space rock to the masses? Um, a good point I suppose. But I doubt that Richard and Jerry are really thinking that way, i.e., intentionally limiting the run. What I imagine is that since they planned to offer them at gigs only, it was probably a way for them to thank the fans that showed up with a rare item and also to make a few $ to pay for some of the travel expenses. (50 is way too few though, even for 7 or 8 shows! I hope they were planning to make more.) Given that something has come up (?) to put the project on indefinite hiatus, I don't imagine they're in any hurry to take the tracks to Doug/EBS or whatever and fight for an official release just now. So what would you do with the CD-Rs? Throw them away? I have no problem with this...and I doubt that they care that much about whether they're eventually booted by a bunch of people. Perhaps until (or unless) the project is revived and the tracks are reintroduced. The problem I have is if they bagged the whole project and left Jim out on a limb without a legitimate reason. (And I haven't heard anything yet, so don't read into that.) >Sure, the people who happen to be subscribed to and reading this group >who happen to see the announcement of this material for sale (or who are >CDS subscribers now) may get a chance to get one of the remaining 47 >copies, and will probably enjoy them very much, but the rest (including >space rock fans yet-to-be) are pretty much SOL. > >IMHO, this kind of thing smacks of elitism, and plays right into the >hands of the pirates. I can understand making the hand-painted, signed >edition a very limited run, but not making the music available in a >"normal" form (assuming there is a demand) is not going to encourage it >to be heard beyond a tiny clique. > >Is this about the music, or about Kollecting? I don't think it's about the music, elitism or kollecting....I think it's about salvaging something while 'bailing'. (Again, Sgt. Schulz says..."I know nut-ting!") I assume they had to pay for some overseas flights to write/rehearse/record in Ohio, so a little cash is probably needed. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. What do they do with all those hats/shirts they make up for the sports teams that lose in the championships? Surely, somebody keeps those as 'odd collectables.' I know my brother has a Cleveland Indians' World Series ticket from the year they didn't make it to the World Series. The printing company gave them away to their employees I think. I think that's what we're looking at, in a twisted way. In the 70's, this probably happened all the time, but now that we have CD-R technology, the stuff actually gets out into the public so much easier. Where's that Amon Din CD-R I've been looking for all these years!! :) From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Jul 14 14:37:16 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:37:16 EDT Subject: OFF: SD2K Message-ID: In a message dated 7/14/00 9:59:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > > Chuck writes... > > ><< I've attended all of them and always had a great time as well, but I > admit > > was a little alarmed by last year's low turnout. The worst thing about it > > was that when Nik came on, all of a sudden all these people appeared from > > out of the woods/campsite and things finally looked like a festival. When > > most of the other bands were playing, however, there were maybe 30-50 > people > > milling around. That's why I hope that people will support the tour this > > year in spite of the obvious disappointment we all feel.>> > > No, no, chuckrecs didn't write that. > >---was it just me, or was ST-37 not on the bill this time? he did write that, though. > > Ummmm...I don't get what you're asking/saying, man. Is this a factual > question about what the lineups were/are, or is this an expressed opinion? factual question?? what you been smokin' Henderson?? :) > > Anyway, the facts are...no, ST37 was not on the bill last year (they came in > 1998), but they're on the bill again this year (2000). ah, sehr gut. i just didn't recall seeing them on the lists i'd seen for 2K. > > I really like their new CD, 'I like to talk...' and am really looking > forward to seeing them again. hmmm...i'm a little disappointed w/this one actually. space-age was more varied (is that because it's actually a collection of different sessions?), and the fx were mixed a little higher. whine, whine. but I'm glad to see it's getting some pretty decent distribution. still looking for the "Invisible College" CD... But I don't suppose that there are too many > folks making their decision about whether to go to SD2K based on their > presence or not. It's not as they're as well known as Hawkwind or anything. > no, but in my book, space-rock gods, as Doug said. Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Jul 14 14:41:29 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:41:29 EDT Subject: HW: Spare Hawkwind items for sale Message-ID: In a message dated 7/14/00 3:41:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > Undisclosed Files CD > > - a compilation of live tracks from 1984 and 1988. Orgone Accumulator is > a very punkish version and should be heard if you haven't already. > Curse of Man appears nowhere else. Most other tracks are versions that > don't appear elsewhere except for one track on Ambient Anarchists. > > 10 Pounds +P&P > > Orgone Accumulator > Sonic Attack > Watching The Grass Grow > Damned By The Curse of Man > Ghost Dance except GD appears in an edited form on the Elf/Hawk CD. wank wank, Chuck From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 14 14:55:28 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:55:28 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawklords-25 yrs On\Still Wanted Message-ID: !! STILL WANTED !! *CD* Compact Disc of; Hawklords- 25 Years On Condition: Like New Cash to you: $85.00 Reply to: wilberry at mindspring.com Goodbye From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 14 15:05:50 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:05:50 -0500 Subject: Hawklords-25 yrs On\Still Wanted In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20000714135528.0068ecb8@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: > !! STILL WANTED !! *CD* > > Compact Disc of; Hawklords- 25 Years On > Condition: Like New > Cash to you: $85.00 > > Reply to: wilberry at mindspring.com > Or you make me an offer ! Goodbye From flossbac at NLCI.COM Fri Jul 14 16:45:54 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:45:54 -0500 Subject: HW: is Harvey still on tour? Message-ID: So we've heard that Star Nation has cancelled but I'm wondering if Harvey Bainbridge is still going to be coming to the USA during those dates or what? Jim? I see that venues have billed the show as "Hawkwind" as per usual deceitfulness....I actually know people who claim to have seen hawkwind several times, but yet they haven't yet seen the Dave Brock version of hawkwind, which I think is a riot! Inevitably, Nik and any ex-Hawk gets billed as HW. I actually have a ticket for a show in 1989 (or maybe 1990) which was actually Huw Lloyd Langton playing the Avalon in Chicago, but the ticketmaster ticket clearly says "Hawkwind"....and then of course the whole tour was cancelled....no surprise there. John Majka From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 14 16:03:28 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:03:28 -0400 Subject: HW: is Harvey still on tour? Message-ID: John asks... >So we've heard that Star Nation has cancelled but I'm wondering if Harvey >Bainbridge is still going to be coming to the USA during those dates or >what? Jim? Yes, Harvey will still be performing at least most of those shows. I know that here in Columbus, the show is on with just Harvey and Quarkspace, and it will indeed remain at Little Bros. I guess Monday night shows never draw a crowd and so low attendance is more or less the 'norm.' I think Dan said the Milwaukee show was off, but I didn't see it removed from Jim's site yet. Minneapolis is still on, as is Philly for sure. I assume Chicago and the NYC Knitting Factory are still a go as well? Don't know if anything else will materialize between now and then...prolly not. >I see that venues have billed the show as "Hawkwind" as per >usual deceitfulness.... Well, when the band didn't have a name until last week, it was hard to bill them as *anything*. :) But yes, Paul (of Quarkspace) has been checking to make sure it is billed correctly in Columbus at least. >I actually know people who claim to have seen >hawkwind several times, but yet they haven't yet seen the Dave Brock version >of hawkwind, which I think is a riot! Inevitably, Nik and any ex-Hawk gets >billed as HW. I actually have a ticket for a show in 1989 (or maybe 1990) >which was actually Huw Lloyd Langton playing the Avalon in Chicago, but the >ticketmaster ticket clearly says "Hawkwind"....and then of course the whole >tour was cancelled....no surprise there. Hmmmm...I don't think Huw was ever to tour here solo, unless I missed something! That sounds like the first "Next Generation" HW tour that was scheduled (while Huw was still a member) and then postponed (which led to Huw leaving). Ostensibly the Xenon Codex tour, which they played exactly nothing from, IIRC. It happened with the four-piece unit in late Sept.-early Oct. '89 I believe. I was at the Toronto show which was the opening gig...first show in America in over 10 years. So, I think that *was* a Hawkwind show that you had a ticket for. Grakkl (FAA) Is DikMik's Hawkwind touring Spain now? :) 90 minute performance of Electronic No. 1. Hey, Doug P., can you do a cover of that at SD'2K to fill the Sat. eve. slot? :) From flossbac at NLCI.COM Fri Jul 14 17:20:57 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:20:57 -0500 Subject: HW: is Harvey still on tour? Message-ID: > Hmmmm...I don't think Huw was ever to tour here solo, unless I missed > something! That sounds like the first "Next Generation" HW tour that was > scheduled (while Huw was still a member) and then postponed (which led to > Huw leaving). Ostensibly the Xenon Codex tour, which they played exactly > nothing from, IIRC. It happened with the four-piece unit in late > Sept.-early Oct. '89 I believe. I was at the Toronto show which was the > opening gig...first show in America in over 10 years. > > So, I think that *was* a Hawkwind show that you had a ticket for. > > Grakkl (FAA) Nope. I saw Hawkwind on the 1989 tour as well. Huw was scheduled to tour a few months later and it never came to pass, and it was billed as Hawkwind. John Majka flossbac at nlci.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jul 14 17:45:58 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 22:45:58 +0100 Subject: Star Nation Message-ID: Hi, Now I understand what you're saying but you're missing the point. First, the Star Nation CD. This is not about exploitation or collecting or anything like that. The band, quite reasonably, thought that they were to do some work in the USA and, in the time they had, got together the CD's for sale or promotion, but mainly sale, to get some music out there. For whatever reason, the USA thing ain't happening and they're back with the CD's and all they want to do is recoup their costs as swiftly and easily as possible, hence easier to sell all to a dealer than play about with mail order, etc (not everyone can accept credit cards - the rstrictions on UK people accepting credit cards seem one hell of a lot tighter in the UK than in the USA), so they asked us, and we are happy to help. Sure, CDS have to make some profit, but - hey - that's business. Now, I imagine that, if the band is a serious project, then they will want to 'spread the word' with a proper album done in proper studio conditions with the necessary time taken to get it all righrt and then find a label to promote it - that way they will then be spreading the word to the masses. If the project is not that serious, then they will just do these CD's, call it a day and move on - for that someone will have to ask the band. What happens when the 50 are gone, is, I presume, not something that the band are worrying about at this stage. Of course with all this commotion, the band may end up not selling the things at all at this rate, so don't make too much noise - they might hear you. Now here I'm not speaking on behalf of any musician, but I don't think a lot of you out there realise just how little SPARE money a lot of your favourite musicians have available (and we're talking a much wider musical arena than space-rock I can tell you), so that spending money on the time and mechanics and the materials of doing things like this , can be a challenge for those who don't have the resources, In Spacehead's case, Dibs has done the CD-R advance of the new one, certainly to get the music around, but also to make some money while waiting for my (or any) label to try and find some money to cough up to take them to a studio to get the new album as decent sounding as possible, and I only run the label as a side project, etc, etc. Musicians have to live, eat and pay the bills like the rest of us, and with so few REAL labels taking any interest in such music that's specialist anymore, it's becoming incresingly harder to do this, and with things like napster threatening to undermine the very fabric of the music industry that supports the bands such a s Spacehead, Hawkwind, Star Nation and the like, then things may only get harder and harder until eventually there's no quality left. Debate anyone????? Sorry to ramble on so long, ands I DO understand what you're saying. Andy Garibaldi P.S. Anyone who's e.mailed me over Star Nation will each get a personal reply within two days. It's how I do things! =========================== ================================= With all the recent talk of "supporting the space rock scene," and how we should do everything to widen its audience and help it grow, is it just me, or does limiting a release to only 50 CD-Rs do *ANYTHING* towards that end? How does this bring space rock to the masses? Sure, the people who happen to be subscribed to and reading this group who happen to see the announcement of this material for sale (or who are CDS subscribers now) may get a chance to get one of the remaining 47 copies, and will probably enjoy them very much, but the rest (including space rock fans yet-to-be) are pretty much SOL. IMHO, this kind of thing smacks of elitism, and plays right into the hands of the pirates. I can understand making the hand-painted, signed edition a very limited run, but not making the music available in a "normal" form (assuming there is a demand) is not going to encourage it to be heard beyond a tiny clique. Is this about the music, or about Kollecting? Cheers, Paul. PS: It comes to something when we speak of "repressing" CD-Rs. Let's hope the paint is kind to the CD-R label, or else pretty soon you'll have 50 circular paintings and little else... :-) e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Fri Jul 14 17:40:18 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:40:18 -0500 Subject: HW: is Harvey still on tour? Message-ID: > I think Dan said the Milwaukee show was off, but I didn't see it removed > from Jim's site yet. Minneapolis is still on, as is Philly for sure. I > assume Chicago and the NYC Knitting Factory are still a go as well? Don't > know if anything else will materialize between now and then...prolly not. > Yes Milwaukee is off. Chicago has kept the date though, and Jim has decided to still come to Minneapolis as well. The advance tickets for Minneapolis are void. It is now $7.00 at the door, no advance tickets. I will be adding another band or two to the bill, right now it is Harvey and Skye Klad(these two are worth more than $7.00 as is!). Hope to see some of you there. dan From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 14 16:40:58 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:40:58 -0400 Subject: HW: is Harvey still on tour? Message-ID: John knew something I didn't.... >> Hmmmm...I don't think Huw was ever to tour here solo, unless I missed >> something! That sounds like the first "Next Generation" HW tour that was >> scheduled (while Huw was still a member) and then postponed (which led to >> Huw leaving). Ostensibly the Xenon Codex tour, which they played exactly >> nothing from, IIRC. It happened with the four-piece unit in late >> Sept.-early Oct. '89 I believe. I was at the Toronto show which was the >> opening gig...first show in America in over 10 years. >> >> So, I think that *was* a Hawkwind show that you had a ticket for. > >Nope. I saw Hawkwind on the 1989 tour as well. Huw was scheduled to tour a >few months later and it never came to pass, and it was billed as Hawkwind. OK, well, I guess I'm glad it didn't come about, as I never saw it listed. Perhaps the Cleveland show never went on sale before it being cancelled. Shoulda been dubbed 'Huwkwind' anyway. Grakkl (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 14 16:56:57 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:56:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Starwood Fest... Message-ID: Hi Folks... Late notice... At Brushwood (the site of SD'97) next week, I see they're having their 'pagan' festival, July 18-23. Einstein's Secret Orchestra will perform Wednesday and Thursday nights (the latter with the Church of Subgenius folks) and then Speaker\Cranker will play Friday night. www.rosencomet.com for more. Grakkl (FAA) From robert_pardini at GROVE.COM Fri Jul 14 18:07:33 2000 From: robert_pardini at GROVE.COM (Robert Pardini) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:07:33 -0700 Subject: automated response Message-ID: Hello! I will be out of the office until Thursday, July 27. In my absence, please contact Jennifer Lynch (jennifer_lynch at grove) or Tiffany Forner (tiffany_forner at grove.com) if you have need of The Grove's design services. Thanks you! Robert Pardini robert_pardini at grove.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Jul 14 19:51:46 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:51:46 -0700 Subject: OFF: SD2K Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:03:28 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >Ostensibly the Xenon Codex tour, which they played exactly >nothing from, IIRC. It happened with the four-piece unit in late >Sept.-early Oct. '89 I believe. "Heads". The dates are correct; I saw 'em in both Santa Clara and San Francisco. >Is DikMik's Hawkwind touring Spain now? :) 90 minute performance of >Electronic No. 1. Hey, Doug P., can you do a cover of that at SD'2K to fill >the Sat. eve. slot? :) No problem (although that's the kind of thing I prefer to reserve for a dark studio room with nobody else in it)! That does bring up a good idea though ... how 'bout a jam session with all the synth players in the house: Paul from ArcMet, Louis & Carl from Born to Go, Carlton from ST37, Doug from Alien Planetscapes ... maybe Grant from F/i could be talked into bringing in one of his Wiard systems (no way in hell am I going to trust the airlines with mine!) ... ? And then, in reponse to K Henderson , on Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:37:16 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >> >---was it just me, or was ST-37 not on the bill this time? >> Anyway, the facts are...no, ST37 was not on the bill last year (they came >>in 1998), but they're on the bill again this year (2000). > >ah, sehr gut. i just didn't recall seeing them on the lists i'd seen for 2K. They weren't on some of the earlier lists, but they're on the schedule now! I'm looking forward to their set ... >> I really like their new CD, 'I like to talk...' and am really looking >> forward to seeing them again. > >hmmm...i'm a little disappointed w/this one actually. space-age was more >varied (is that because it's actually a collection of different sessions?), Actually, it's sort of the other way around - the Voco Kesh split LP ('Derobe') & the 'Secret Society' LP (and possibly something else that I can't remember?) are from one session, 'Spaceage' was the next, and 'I like to talk...' the next after that. Although it's not really appropriate to call them "sessions" since they have a 16-track in the garage that they do all their recording on. I like the fact that the new one has both long jams AND poppy stuff like the Eno cover. (also, the 'I like to talk...' stuff has been around so long that they played several tracks from it at SD98!) >and the fx were mixed a little higher. whine, whine. but I'm glad to see it's >getting some pretty decent distribution. still looking for the "Invisible >College" CD... Send a check for $10 payable to Scott Telles to their PO Box. They are starting to run a bit low on that one, so don't hesitate too long. >> But I don't suppose that there are too many >> folks making their decision about whether to go to SD2K based on their >> presence or not. It's not as they're as well known as Hawkwind or >> anything. > >no, but in my book, space-rock gods, as Doug said. An opinion I still hold :^). I'll have to admit that I was less-excited about SD99 last year, since my two favorite (non-Hawkwind) bands who had played both of the previous two years weren't going to be there. That wasn't about to stop me from attending, though. See y'all there this year! -Doug ceres at sirius.com ObLatestEntryInPersonalDiscography: 'More Music, Less Parking' double-CD compilation of bands recorded live at WFMU in Jersey City; the Overhang Party track features guest members from Primordial Undermind and Salamander, including myself and Erik Wivinus of Skye Klad. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jul 14 22:48:48 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 22:48:48 -0400 Subject: HW: Promoting space rock In-Reply-To: <200007141756.NAA20712@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, K Henderson wrote: => >> The CD-R is a limited edition of 50 copies only and the remaining 47 are => >> being sold by CD Services Mail Order. They are hand-painted original artwork => >> by Richard, autographed by the group, and won't be repressed once they have => >> gone. They were only manufactured for the USA dates, but Jerry told me today => >> that they have been cancelled. => Given that something has come up (?) to put the project on indefinite => hiatus, I don't imagine they're in any hurry to take the tracks to Doug/EBS => or whatever and fight for an official release just now. So what would you => do with the CD-Rs? Throw them away? No, I don't think they should throw them away; they should sell them (as I actually suggested in the rest of my message). In fact, the limited Kollector *packaging* is a great way for a small band to make easy money from diehard fans. What I took at face value was the statement "won't be repressed once they have gone," which limits the music. Limiting the packaging is fine by me. I don't listen to packaging. I realise these are existing product being flogged off to recoup costs. Maybe I didn't make that clear in my posting. Perhaps I just misunderstood the original CDS posting. My reading of it was "grab these quick whilst you can, because once they're gone there's not going to be any more." I guess that is what pushed a hot button, because, as I said, it's hard to support and spread a scene you can't actually hear. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Sat Jul 15 00:16:06 2000 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 22:16:06 -0600 Subject: HW: Andy and his Star Nation cdrs Re: Re: HW: Star Nation cancelled Message-ID: Arrgh!! I was away at the city when this came in! If you still have one, save a copy for me. My email address is following, and I need total including shipping to Canada. Thanks, Bryan Young blyoung at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Freeman To: Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 12:19 AM Subject: Re: HW: Star Nation cancelled > Hi Andy > Save one for me too please:-) > > Bill Freeman > 58 Ravenscroft Way > Kelmscott WA 6111 > Australia > For personal details regarding shipping, costs etc. please email me > privately at freeaqua at iinet.net.au > > Regards > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI > To: > Sent: Friday, 14 July 2000 2:19 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Star Nation cancelled > > > > > P.S. Jerry told me that he's got a CD-R with 4 Star Nation tracks, and > > that > > > the one he put up on A-I.com radio was the one really good one. (Please > > > don't ask me to burn a bunch of pirate copies for everyone...I don't > know > > > what the band's intentions are for them. Especially now.) > > ========================== > > OK - this is going to be a plug but I have to nip this in the bud before > CD > > pirates start to zoom up. > > The CD-R is a limited edition of 50 copies only and the remaining 47 are > > being sold by CD Services Mail Order. They are hand-painted original > artwork > > by Richard, autographed by the group, and won't be repressed once they > have > > gone. They were only manufactured for the USA dates, but Jerry told me > today > > that they have been cancelled. > > If anyone wants an original, I'm sure you know where to e.mail by now, but > I > > will warn you that the high price the group need to cover their costs of > > doing it, means we have to ask for the retail price as virtually a normal > > album price for a 5-track EP. > > Sorry about the plug - if you don't like it, don't complain to me. But as > > fans who want things like this, it would be a bit silly if you didn't know > > what was going on. > > Happy to serve, > > Andy Garibaldi. > > > From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Sat Jul 15 03:19:40 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 08:19:40 +0100 Subject: HW Site update Message-ID: The lyrics to Quark..are now up at http://hawkwind.freeservers.com Stuart NP Milt Jackson - Sunflower From bocfan at AREA51.BCGSYSTEMS.COM Sat Jul 15 12:55:29 2000 From: bocfan at AREA51.BCGSYSTEMS.COM (J. Michael Looney) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 11:55:29 -0500 Subject: BOC Cult Reference found Message-ID: The "Gamer" comix book "Knights of the Dinner Table Illustrated" has a sort of weird Blue Oyster Cult reference. At one point one of the characters screams "Forget the Song; It's Time to Fear the Reaper!". The character in question is armed with a scythe so it isn't quite as weird as it seems... If you role play at all you should get read both "Knights of the Dinner Table" and "KoDT Illustrated". Great fun, plus BOC references at least once a year... From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Jul 15 13:41:06 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 13:41:06 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Another creulty in the name of science Message-ID: Hello friends...I apologize if this fwd'd announcement causes problems for any of your mailsorters etc, but I feel compelled to pass this information on..I am not sounding a trumpet to call people to rally against what they will read here..This is totally NOT my intention. People can make their own assertions, whatever they may be..My mission is merely to inform... Peace, Mike http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: teamBabu at webtv.net Subject: Fwd: Another creulty in the name of science Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 12:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Size: 11855 URL: From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Sat Jul 15 13:46:56 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 12:46:56 -0500 Subject: Fwd: Another creulty in the name of science Message-ID: > > Subject: VERY IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ!!! > > > Importance: High > > > Dear all Dead give away. This is a hoax folks. From Hajo.Steffen at T-ONLINE.DE Sat Jul 15 14:44:52 2000 From: Hajo.Steffen at T-ONLINE.DE (HAJO STEFFEN) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 20:44:52 +0200 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?B=D6C?= Shows Message-ID: Hi Brad, - I hope that you have received the money for the current "treeing". In the meantime: Are you interested in theese great B?C shows: HAJO "Shadow Warrior" Los Angeles, California, 27-03-1986 R.U. Ready to Rock 5:52 White Flags 4:48 Take Me Away 6:50 Dancin' in the Ruins 4:12 Shadow Warrior 5:32 Burnin' for You 5:51 Godzilla 5:17 Wings of Mercury 4:21 Don't Fear the Reaper 6:59 Born to Be Wild 4:49 Let Go 3:44 Shooting Shark 6:16 and "Still Burnin'" Ventura Theatre, Ventura, California, 03-09-1995 Disk 1 Stairway To The Stars 3:56 Dr.Music 3:43 O.D.'d On Life Itself 5:02 Eti 5:39 Before The Kiss A Redcap 5:40 I'd Like To See You In Black 3:26 Take Me Away 5:07 Cities On Flame With Rock & Roll 6:21 Astronomy 10:47 Disk 2 In Thee 4:06 Me262 3:30 Burnin' For You 4:53 Godzilla 11:39 (Don't Fear) The Reaper 7:51 Joan Crawford 5:24 Summer of Love 2:33 The Red & The Black 4:26 From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Sat Jul 15 14:41:55 2000 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 12:41:55 -0600 Subject: Fwd: Another creulty in the name of science Message-ID: >Hello friends...I apologize if this fwd'd announcement causes problems >for any of your mailsorters etc, but I feel compelled to pass this >information on..I am not sounding a trumpet to call people to rally >against what they will read here..This is totally NOT my intention. >People can make their own assertions, whatever they may be..My mission >is merely to inform... > > Peace, Mike Uh... Mike... I've noticed that you often fall for pranks and hoaxes like this... :-) Alex. --------------------------------------------------- Music Video DataBase : mvdbase.com Read the Icarus Encyclopedia of Fantasy & SF - www.noosfere.com/icarus/ (French & English) My Web HQ : members.tripod.com/~Mandor/ --------------------------------------------------- From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Jul 15 15:14:31 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 14:14:31 -0500 Subject: OFF: Saving moon bears from lives of torture Message-ID: There is some truth to the bear torture chain letter. But, chain letters are their own torture for the recipients! They aren't a good idea no matter what. If anyone wants to check out the "bare" facts ;) from the International Fund for Animal Welfare, here's the link: http://www.ifaw.org/moonbearfacts.html Karen -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Jul 15 15:23:07 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 15:23:07 -0400 Subject: OFF: Metazoon Comp. Message-ID: Hi Folks... I was just browsing through Archie Patterson's site (www.eurock.com), and notice he has a few (?) remaining copies of the Finnish Space-Rock compilation entitled Metazoon, for only $10 (+ shipping). This is a good deal and has some great (rare) music on it, like Dark Sun, Circle, Moonfog Prophet and the like. It's also on Metamorphos, the label that apparently has gone bellyup, so unlikely they'll ever be in print again. Don't forget to see Circle on tour in September here in the states w/ SubArachnoid Space. I'll remind you six or seven more times, so don't worry! :) Grakkl (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Jul 15 15:31:02 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 15:31:02 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: Travelling SD Chicago gig Message-ID: Hi Folks... Looks like Quarkspace is going to be also going to Chicago to do the show there with Harvey. JJKelley's in Lansing, IL, IIRC the same place that Nik & Farflung played last year before SD'99. Also, Quarkspace has released their newest "Spacefolds 6", available for only $6 from their site, www.quarkspace.com. I haven't heard it yet, so can't comment further. Imagine it's 70 min. of space-rock & electronic jams though. I'm sure you can get them at SD'2K when you're all there. (Hint.) Grakkl (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Jul 15 22:07:31 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 22:07:31 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: New A-I.com issue is up Message-ID: Hi Folks... Here's the latest spiel. A side note...if anyone has a link to our old site (www.infinet.com/~jkranitz), please note that it has gone dead now, and we'd like you to update that link to aural-innovations.com at your earlier convenience. Thanks much! Keith H. and/or Grakkl (FAA) The July issue of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock Exploration is now online. Aural Innovations covers spacerock, psychedelia, related electronic music, plus lots of "out there" jazz and progressive rock. The new issue includes: Adrian Shaw (profile/interview) Babylonian Tiles (interview with Bryna Golden) Rotcod Zzaj (review/interview) Quarkstock 2000 SpaceRock & Avant-Prog Festival coverage and photo gallery What Is Ambient Space? (Essay) Tales Of The Action Man (Fiction?) Reviews of recent Gazul/Musea label releases Reviews of Best Kept Secret cassette label releases Krautrock Korner Plus loads of reviews!!! We also recently debuted Aural Innovations SpaceRock Radio in streaming RealAudio. We have three shows so far, one of which features bands that will be appearing at the Strange Daze 2000 SpaceRock Festival in Ohio on August 11-12. Aural Innovations also has a small but growing CD mail order catalog. Our stock includes releases by Ohm, Zzaj Productions, The MoonDance Experiment, Mr Quimby's Beard, The Rabbit's Hat, Krom Lek, Music From The Future, Spacehead, Krel, Heru Avenger, Alien Planetscapes, Spaceship Eyes, W.O.O. Revelator, World Of Tomorrow, Quarkspace, the Turn Century Turn Spacerock/Psychedelia compilation, plus numerous releases from the Garden of Delights reissue label. All this can be found by setting your vessel's controls for http://Aural-Innovations.com From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Jul 16 09:16:10 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 08:16:10 -0500 Subject: HW: Lords 25 = $ Message-ID: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ WORLD TODAY Date: Future Headlines- GOD SAVE LEWIS Tyson KO's Lewis in 2nd +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PS; Hawklords - 25 Years On CD wilberry at mindspring.com Goodbye From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Jul 16 09:22:05 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 08:22:05 -0500 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20000716081610.00687564@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > WORLD TODAY > Date: Future > > Headlines- GOD SAVE LEWIS > > Tyson KO's Lewis in 2nd > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > PS; Hawklords - 25 Years On CD $100.00 > wilberry at mindspring.com > Goodbye From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Sun Jul 16 11:12:35 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 16:12:35 +0100 Subject: HW Site Update Message-ID: A big update this time at; http://hawkwind.freeservers.com/HawkPics1/Thumbnails.html Cover art for; Electric Tepee Hall Of The Mountain Grill Hawkwind In Search Of Space Levitation Lord Of Light Out & Intake Palace Springs Space Bandits Palace Springs Space Ritual Warrior On The Edge Of Time Stuart NP Marillion - Made Again Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine http://shop.affinia.com/zeitgeist/Store4/ - The Hawkwind Shop http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk - a kind of portal thing http://hawkwind.freeservers.com - HW resource site http://rock-wallpaper.freeservers.com - Rock Wallpapers http://leahlail.co.uk - site about the VIP actress From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Jul 16 19:25:48 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 19:25:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ride for Thom Message-ID: Hi Folks... Forwarding from SD'2K board at Strange-trips.com Thom "TWP" Woodruff needs a ride from Cleveland-Hopkins to Nelson Ledges on Friday morn. Anybody? E-mail worldpoet at rocketmail.com Grakkl (FAA) endeared and touring jim-greetings!arrive cleveland morning of friday 11th and need a friend to get me to the site on time-arrive around noon on american-could someone contact?gracias and courage to your projects!thom in texas From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Jul 17 08:50:17 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 08:50:17 -0400 Subject: Star Nation Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > Now I understand what you're saying but you're missing the point. I was probably not being very clear. :-) > Musicians have to live, eat and pay the bills like the rest of us, and > with so few REAL labels taking any interest in such music that's > specialist anymore, it's becoming incresingly harder to do this, and > with things like napster threatening to > undermine the very fabric of the music industry that supports the > bands such a s Spacehead, Hawkwind, Star Nation and the like, then > things may only get harder and harder until eventually there's no > quality left. I would contend that the "very fabric of the music industry" does not support bands such as Hawkwind, Spacehead, Star Nation and the like. Because they are not an obvious "mass appeal," they will probably always be shunned by big label support. So, they have to support themselves. Luckily, there are enabling technologies such as CD-R and the Internet that make that easier to do. No longer does a band have to pony up for a pressing run of 1000 and hope they can sell them quickly enough to avoid going bankrupt. I'm not sure it makes economic sense to go to the capital outlay of studio time and then only limit yourself to 50 units, unless you can make the unit cost very high. (Or, unless you have a home studio and go the Nick Saloman route.) So, selling on CD-R is a good option. Nowadays, it takes ~10 minutes to burn a 74-minute CD-R from hard disc. Producing CD-Rs is easy enough that here at Virginia Tech they even have a "walk-up" CD software distribution for campus licensed software. It's not rocket science. Even a big name guaranteed seller like Jimmy Page is selling on CD-R now. Having someone who will produce copies "on demand" is a good way to keep the music "out there." The biggest thing to suffer here would be the packaging, which would probably be an issue for some (not for me, and, hey, I never though the _Weird Tapes_ had such great packaging anyway:), but an investment in a good colour printer (wax thermal transfer; laser; etc.) would also help in that regard. I don't think I'm speaking specifically to the Star Nation project in all this. Spacerock needs to move with the times, and realise they are a niche market in the music industry at large. Luckily, technology can help them, and they no longer need be so reliant on "the music biz" to get their music heard by their fans. Cheers, Paul. NP: BOC, _The Thing!_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jul 17 12:27:18 2000 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 00:27:18 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind on ABC-TV Australia this Thursday!!! Message-ID: Hi all Just thought I'd remind everyone in Australia (Not that they should need reminding!) that Thursday is the day Hawkwind make their appearance on Studio 22 on ABC-TV. For those not familiar with the show, It's usually a 30 minute performance by the featured band, & may even have some interviews? I'll be taping it in SVHS for to get the best quality I can, & intend asking a favour with some friends & family to tape it as well just in case! Bye for now William PS Someone posted the possible track list before. What was it? From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Jul 17 16:14:35 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:14:35 EDT Subject: Star Nation In-Reply-To: <39730108.5D2009DF@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On 17 Jul 00, at 8:50, Paul Mather wrote: > I would contend that the "very fabric of the music industry" does not > support bands such as Hawkwind, Spacehead, Star Nation and the like. > Because they are not an obvious "mass appeal," they will probably > always be shunned by big label support. http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/index.html This is an editorial written by Coutney Love about Napster and the Record biz. This is great stuff! theo From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Jul 17 16:45:49 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:45:49 EDT Subject: OFF: Travels to the American NE Message-ID: Hello. W/in the next week, I will most likely be setting out for the east. I should arrive in Trenton, NJ around late July/early Aug, NY a few days later, Mass. a few days after that. If anyone is interested in "hooking up", please e-mail me. I'd love to meet more of you face to face. Though I will also most likely be at Strange Daze 2000 as well, so perhaps some of us can meet then instead. Also if there are any stores absolutely essential Prog/Psyche/Space record stores in said areas, I'd love to know about 'em of course. Thanks, Chuck From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Jul 17 18:01:26 2000 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 17:01:26 -0500 Subject: OFF: Travels to the American NE In-Reply-To: <99.7b1b32f.26a4ca7d@aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: :Subject: OFF: Travels to the American NE : :Hello. W/in the next week, I will most likely be setting out for the east. I :should arrive in Trenton, NJ around late July/early Aug, NY a few days later, :Mass. a few days after that. If anyone is interested in "hooking up", please :e-mail me. I'd love to meet more of you face to face. Though I will also most :likely be at Strange Daze 2000 as well, so perhaps some of us can meet then :instead. :Also if there are any stores absolutely essential Prog/Psyche/Space record :stores in said areas, I'd love to know about 'em of course. I'm heading out to the Silicon Valley area (sunnyvale) on Sunday and will be there a week. ditto what Chuck said ;) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jul 18 00:01:37 2000 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill Freeman) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 12:01:37 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind on ABC-TV Australia this Thursday!!! Message-ID: Thanks for that William.. I have been looking forward to Hawkwind's screening on Thursday night for nearly two months now. It was originally scheduled for May, then the ABC Emailed me and told me it was going to be on in June, which of course didn't happen. So I have been waiting a LONG time.:-) A Hawkwind fan I talk to in England - on ICQ - wants a copy of it, so I have asked friends to tape it as well. Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: William Duffy To: Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2000 0:27 AM Subject: Hawkwind on ABC-TV Australia this Thursday!!! > Hi all > > Just thought I'd remind everyone in Australia (Not that they should need > reminding!) that Thursday is the day Hawkwind make their appearance on > Studio 22 on ABC-TV. > For those not familiar with the show, It's usually a 30 minute performance > by the featured band, & may even have some interviews? > > I'll be taping it in SVHS for to get the best quality I can, & intend asking > a favour with some friends & family to tape it as well just in case! > > Bye for now > William > > PS Someone posted the possible track list before. What was it? > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jul 18 04:47:45 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:47:45 +0100 Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera Message-ID: Well, it looks like summer's here at last, so barring unforeseen circumstances I'll be off to Wales on Friday... anyone going who hasn't met me, I'll probably wear my white tee with "KOTJ/MF" on the front. (Oh, work it out... ;) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From tonym at GIL.COM.AU Tue Jul 18 07:30:03 2000 From: tonym at GIL.COM.AU (Tony Melius) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:30:03 +1000 Subject: Hawkwind on ABC-TV Australia this Thursday!!! Message-ID: Sonique did a review of the Studio 22 and Sydney Metro gigs, and gave an informal set list: > Assassins of Allah > Utopia > Love in Space > Free Fall > Brainstorm/Reefer Madness (excerpt)/Brainstorm > > And "they want us to finish with Silver Machine" say Dave as he consults his > Lyric Book. Audience participation unit was well activated for that one. (See the archive at http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0002d&L=boc-l&F=&S=&P=9455 for his full message.) Tony M. > -----Original Message----- > From: William Duffy [mailto:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] > Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2000 2:27 AM > Subject: Hawkwind on ABC-TV Australia this Thursday!!! > > > Hi all > > Just thought I'd remind everyone in Australia (Not that they should need > reminding!) that Thursday is the day Hawkwind make their appearance on > Studio 22 on ABC-TV. > For those not familiar with the show, It's usually a 30 minute performance > by the featured band, & may even have some interviews? > > I'll be taping it in SVHS for to get the best quality I can, & > intend asking > a favour with some friends & family to tape it as well just in case! > > Bye for now > William > > PS Someone posted the possible track list before. What was it? > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jul 18 13:00:52 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:00:52 +0100 Subject: HW: The Wire Message-ID: I only just got July's issue of The Wire (www.thewire.co.uk), anyway there's a dead good article about space music, and some of the most sensible comment I've ever seen on Hawkwind in the music press. Might even type some in. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jul 18 15:25:32 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 20:25:32 +0100 Subject: Star Nation In-Reply-To: <200007172014.QAA13281@syr.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Ted Jackson jr. wrote: > On 17 Jul 00, at 8:50, Paul Mather wrote: > > > I would contend that the "very fabric of the music industry" does not > > support bands such as Hawkwind, Spacehead, Star Nation and the like. > > Because they are not an obvious "mass appeal," they will probably > > always be shunned by big label support. > > http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/index.html > > This is an editorial written by Coutney Love about Napster and the > Record biz. This is great stuff! Dammit, I was going to post that :-) But yes, go read, she may have a crap band but she has got The Idea :-) Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Jul 18 15:35:38 2000 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:35:38 -0400 Subject: Star Nation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I second that. Just read this yesterday. EVERYONE should read it. Although I don't think her music is "crap". I respect her work but don't like it. A read of this article will, however show her to be a very well spoken artist. _______________________ Michael S. Habiby ________________________ "The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -- Plutarch. ____________________________________________________________________________ _ > >> >> http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/index.html >> >> This is an editorial written by Coutney Love about Napster and the >> Record biz. This is great stuff! > > Dammit, I was going to post that :-) But yes, go read, she may >have a crap band but she has got The Idea :-) Yours, > Jon > >-- > | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > | ======================================================================| > | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jul 18 15:42:49 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:42:49 EDT Subject: Star Nation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 18 Jul 00, at 15:35, Michael Habiby wrote: > I second that. Just read this yesterday. EVERYONE should read it. > > Although I don't think her music is "crap". I respect her work but > don't like it. > > A read of this article will, however show her to be a very well spoken > artist. > While she doesn't make the kind of music I'm naturally drawn to, I do find her a very well-spoken individual. I like her movie work better than her records. I thought her essay was great, esp. the line to the effect of: '...with a record label, I'm almost giving away my music for nothing, so what's the big deal about Napster...' BTW, I've never actually heard an MP-3 [sounds like a German submachine gun!] Is the sound quality as bad as Courteney says? theo From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jul 18 16:41:36 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 13:41:36 -0700 Subject: OFF: Courtney, the Biz, MP3 (was: Re: Star Nation) Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:35:38 -0400, Michael Habiby wrote: >I second that. Just read this yesterday. EVERYONE should read it. I'll concur. >Although I don't think her music is "crap". I respect her work but don't >like it. There are some artists' work that I will respect without necessarily liking. But I see no need to respect yet another interchangeable (except for the singer) early-90s grunge-knockoff band. There were enough of those, already. (apologies for "old-fart" story...) ... well kids, back in the late 80s, when only hipster record kollektors who were wondering why nobody had yet thought of fusing the sounds of the Stooges and Black Sabbath, the Sub Pop label, purveyor of all things sludgy out of Seattle (well, there was also C/Z, Regal Select, Black Label, Leopard Gecko and other indie labels, but you get the idea) wasn't exactly a household name. Except among certain record nerds such as myself, who saw the label as a mark of quality in a music "scene" still buried under the weight of 80s glam metal (Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, you know the story), and rabidly purchased anything with the Sub Pop imprint. Well, that all changed for me when I eagerly tore open the package from Seattle holding the second singles by two of Sub Pop's recent out-of-Seattle discoveries: Hole, and the Smashing Pumpkins. I played both records once, thought they both sucked, and became far more discriminating in my purchases of Sub Pop product. 10 years later, my opinion on neither band has changed. >A read of this article will, however show her to be a very well spoken >artist. ... or at least one with a good speechwriter ;^) [and it should be mentioned that the first page or so of the article is nearly identical to the (in)famous essay by Steve Albini about where album sales' profits go] >> http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/index.html On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:42:49 EDT, "Ted Jackson jr." wrote: >I thought her essay was great, esp. the line to the effect of: >'...with a record label, I'm almost giving away my music for nothing, >so what's the big deal about Napster...' Tough to argue with logic like that. It's not companies like Napster that artists need protection from, it's the major labels, publishing companies, and the likes of the RIAA that artists need legislated protection from! >BTW, I've never actually heard an MP-3 [sounds like a German >submachine gun!] Is the sound quality as bad as Courteney says? No it's not BAD, but nor is it CD/pro-audio quality. It's a great way to check music out, store it on the web, send demos of your songs to friends/bandmates, archive "lo-fi" live recordings in a small amount of digital space, etc. But they won't cut it for, say, evaluating the sound quality of audio equipment. There's another great take on this issue (congressional testimony from Byrds founder/leader Roger McGuinn) at: http://judiciary.senate.gov/7112000_rm.htm And the Byrds weren't exactly some kind of minor underground phenomenon, they were possibly the biggest American rock band of the mid 60s. Since McGuinn was the major songwriter in the band, he was seeing more royalties than his bandmates who were just players. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Jul 18 17:28:46 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:28:46 -0400 Subject: Star Nation In-Reply-To: <200007181943.PAA05354@syr.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Ted Jackson jr. wrote: => BTW, I've never actually heard an MP-3 [sounds like a German => submachine gun!] Is the sound quality as bad as Courteney says? The answer is "it depends." It depends upon: a) the source material (garbage in, garbage out); b) the encoder used to encode the source c) the bitrate used for encoding (higher is better, quality-wise) d) the encoder settings used in encoding (to tweak the process) e) the decoder used to play back what the encoder encoded I'd say that (a)--(d) are far more important than (e), as most hardware and decoding software can handle the job nicely (and, decoding is less intensive a process than encoding). Be aware that Layer 3 was actually designed with low bitrates specifically in mind, i.e., for streaming audio over modem-rate connections, and a lower bitrate means more audio quality lost. So, either you save file size and download time, or preserve audio quality. Which would you prefer? In the end, it's all about quality control. Some people don't care for that, or are oblivious. So, you get bad "MP3s." If you want to hear what one sounds like, and you have the bandwidth, check out some of my Gov't Mule MPEG audio files available via anonymous FTP from gromit.dlib.vt.edu under /pub/emule/audio. (There's also Hawkwind and BOC under /pub/boc-l/audio.) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jul 18 19:04:34 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:04:34 +0100 Subject: HW-Star Nation-Napster Message-ID: Oh - so that's where I've been going wrong all this time - I'm paying the musicians on my label real royalties with nothing taken out for hidden extras!!!!!!!!!!! I want to know why musicians for the last 30 years have sacrficed themselves on the altar that is major label status, sell more CD's than labels like mine could ever dream of and still manage to get ripped off by the major labels - are the labels that clever or are they that daft? BTW - just take a listen to 'Awful' by Hole and that should change your minds - one staggeringly great single!!! Andy Garibaldi. ---------------------------------------- I thought her essay was great, esp. the line to the effect of: '...with a record label, I'm almost giving away my music for nothing, so what's the big deal about Napster...' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jul 18 19:01:38 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:01:38 -0700 Subject: HW: OFF: New A-I.com issue is up Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Jul 2000 22:07:31 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >The July issue of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock >Exploration is now online. Aural Innovations covers spacerock, psychedelia, >related electronic music, plus lots of "out there" jazz and progressive >rock. The new issue includes: > >Adrian Shaw (profile/interview) Keith - great job on this article! It was a fantastic read for the subway ride home from work last night. I hope you don't mind if I nit-pick on a couple of tiny points in public ... 1) If you're going to interview bassists who play space/psychedelic music, you need to spell the master's name correctly. It's Jack CASADY. Now, go pick yourself up a copy of the Paul Kantner/Jefferson Starship (despite the moniker, it's a Kantner solo album, and not the gawdawful arenarock band that he founded a few years later) album 'Blows Against the Empire' (or, if not, try any live album by Jefferson Airplane, or their 'After Bathing At Baxter's' or 'Crown of Creation' LP's), put on "Sunrise", the first track on side 2, crank the volume, turn the bass up to "11", sit back & relax, and experience what I felt here in the Bay Area in October '89. 2) Hopefully someone can correct me on this if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that Adrian Shaw *ever* played "Death Trap" with Hawkwind. The studio version of 'PXR5' has Calvert, King, and all other instruments (including bass & keyboards) by Dave. And even though the Sonic Assassins played it in '77, I haven't heard it on any Hawkwind live recordings from 77/78, nor even seen it on any tracklists/setlists from that era. If I'm incorrect about this, I would *love* to be corrected! (hopefully with an actual recording) But truthfully, I don't think that song (great as it is - one of my alltime Hawkwind faves) would have worked as well recorded with House & Shaw. It's too much of a direct rocker (the Hawklords live versions with Swindells & Bainbridge rip!), while House & Shaw (IMO) excelled at songs that required a great deal of musical depth ("Damnation Alley"), subtlety ("Spirit of the Age") or understated beauty ("Fable of a Failed Race" - good that you mentioned that one, Keith!). No other lineup of the band has ever played those songs as well as the original versions, wheras I'd say that several lineups (current one included) have done versions of "Hassan i Sahba" that are up there with the original (except, perhaps lacking the violin). 3) No mention of "Jack of Shadows"?!? (Adrian's lone songwriting credit with Hawkwind!) The funny thing is, today while walking down the street on my way to work, I ran into an acquaintance who was wearing the Bevis Frond t-shirt that says "Didn't you play on 'Silver Machine'?" on the front ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jul 18 19:17:07 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:17:07 -0700 Subject: OFF: Star Nation-Napster Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:04:34 +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >I want to know why musicians for the last 30 years have >sacrficed themselves on the altar that is major label status, >sell more CD's than labels like mine could ever dream of and >still manage to get ripped off by the major labels - are the >labels that clever or are they that daft? Did you read the part of Courtney's speech that described how a (US) congressional aide (who now works for the RIAA) changed the text of a bill AFTER it had been debated in Congress, but BEFORE it was voted on, so that the senators and/or representatives voting on it didn't even know what they were voting on? When you're able to circumvent democracy and honest legislation, ripping off uninformed musicians is hardly a difficult action. Also, remember that major labels hold outstanding loans ("advances") on all the artists they sign. It's not too difficult to doctor the books in such a way that "expenses" related to the artist are shown to be greater than the royalties due to the artist, hence the artist is always in debt to the company, and the company never has to pay the artist. Same way that corporations avoid paying taxes by incurring "losses" that negate their income. That's what Courtney's talking about on the first page of her speech (and that was, as I mentioned, better covered by Steve Albini in a similar article). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jul 18 19:34:12 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 19:34:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: Star Nation-Napster Message-ID: Doug was sirius when he said... >That's what Courtney's talking about on the first page of her >speech (and that was, as I mentioned, better covered by Steve Albini in a >similar article). There's gotta be a connection between this and the unsolicited email I just got from Escapade's Hadley Kahn with the text of this article, and this URL cited. Or is it just a weird case of synchronicity? http://chris.slab.org/essays/Steve_Albini_--_The_Problem_With_Music.html Grakkl (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jul 18 19:48:45 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 19:48:45 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: New A-I.com issue is up Message-ID: Doug points out... >On Sat, 15 Jul 2000 22:07:31 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >>The July issue of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock >>Exploration is now online. Aural Innovations covers spacerock, psychedelia, >>related electronic music, plus lots of "out there" jazz and progressive >>rock. The new issue includes: >> >>Adrian Shaw (profile/interview) > >Keith - great job on this article! It was a fantastic read for the subway >ride home from work last night. Thanks. Karen K. deserves some credit for instigating it in a sense. >I hope you don't mind if I nit-pick on a couple of tiny points in public ... Yeah, yeah... >1) If you're going to interview bassists who play space/psychedelic music, >you need to spell the master's name correctly. It's Jack CASADY. Hey, this was done via e-mail...you know who to blame! :) I shoulda caught it though...if you had asked me, I think I'd have gotten it write. :) >Now, go >pick yourself up a copy of the Paul Kantner/Jefferson Starship (despite the >moniker, it's a Kantner solo album, and not the gawdawful arenarock band >that he founded a few years later) album 'Blows Against the Empire' (or, if >not, try any live album by Jefferson Airplane, or their 'After Bathing At >Baxter's' or 'Crown of Creation' LP's), put on "Sunrise", the first track >on side 2, crank the volume, turn the bass up to "11", sit back & relax, >and experience what I felt here in the Bay Area in October '89. Actually, this is the only thing I have from that entire family. You mean I have to go back and listen to this unremarkable thing now? :) >2) Hopefully someone can correct me on this if I'm wrong, but I don't >believe that Adrian Shaw *ever* played "Death Trap" with Hawkwind. Maybe true, can't remember. I know I pulled out my vinyl copy of PXR5 to look at the breakdown of performers, but then later I actually wrote that paragraph, and of course, it only mentions "Death Trap" as being on that album (and being recently revisited), and not specifically tied to Shaw's contributions. So no egregious error I suppose. >No other lineup >of the band has ever played those songs as well as the original versions, >wheras I'd say that several lineups (current one included) have done >versions of "Hassan i Sahba" that are up there with the original (except, >perhaps lacking the violin). What did you think of the version of Wind of Change from "Thrilling"? Simon House on stage w/ violin (as we hear in Steppenwolf just after (?)), but he doesn't play the melody from the original version!!!! But then Brock's guitar bits are so awesome and energizing that I think this version is perhaps the best (or maybe 'tied' with the original). Well, I liked the Nottingham version also, but haven't played it in years. (People are still auctioning this CD on the web...despite the fact that it won't exist until.....when, Andy Gee?) >3) No mention of "Jack of Shadows"?!? (Adrian's lone songwriting credit >with Hawkwind!) Really? I hadn't noticed that. I do like that song, but didn't want to appear overzealous about HW in the article, just two years (if that) out of his entire career. Adrian's son Aaron is really good...I could see him being a crucial element to Hawkwind: The Next Generation, say in 2012 or so. Grakkl (FAA) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jul 18 22:06:28 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michaelangelo Blackman) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:36:28 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind on ABC-TV Australia this Thursday!!! Message-ID: Hi I'' be watching and recording as well thanks for the reminder - I had NOT forgotten tho cheers south OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: William Duffy To: Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 1:57 AM Subject: Hawkwind on ABC-TV Australia this Thursday!!! > Hi all > > Just thought I'd remind everyone in Australia (Not that they should need > reminding!) that Thursday is the day Hawkwind make their appearance on > Studio 22 on ABC-TV. > For those not familiar with the show, It's usually a 30 minute performance > by the featured band, & may even have some interviews? > > I'll be taping it in SVHS for to get the best quality I can, & intend asking > a favour with some friends & family to tape it as well just in case! > > Bye for now > William > > PS Someone posted the possible track list before. What was it? > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jul 18 22:12:01 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michaelangelo Blackman) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:42:01 +0930 Subject: HW-Star Nation-Napster Message-ID: Hello Andrew I am relativley new to the BOC and I hope you can forgive my ignorance, but I was wondering if you could enlighten me on your label etc your email has sparked my curiosity - ever curious is the cat :^) cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:34 AM Subject: Re: HW-Star Nation-Napster Oh - so that's where I've been going wrong all this time - I'm paying the musicians on my label real royalties with nothing taken out for hidden extras!!!!!!!!!!! I want to know why musicians for the last 30 years have sacrficed themselves on the altar that is major label status, sell more CD's than labels like mine could ever dream of and still manage to get ripped off by the major labels - are the labels that clever or are they that daft? BTW - just take a listen to 'Awful' by Hole and that should change your minds - one staggeringly great single!!! Andy Garibaldi. ---------------------------------------- I thought her essay was great, esp. the line to the effect of: '...with a record label, I'm almost giving away my music for nothing, so what's the big deal about Napster...' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jul 18 21:21:25 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:21:25 -0400 Subject: HW: Simon King Message-ID: Forwarding from alt.music.space-rock... This one's for you, Larry. :) Grakkl (FAA) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Just thought I'd mention that I've added a number of rare HW samples to my site - stuff that's been unavailable for a long time... anyway, worth a visit if you're into Simon King-powered Hawkwind. http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind Steve From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Jul 19 00:26:07 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:26:07 EDT Subject: OFF:motorhead/lem walks out of bbc/expanded no sleep til h'smith re-issue Message-ID: As reported by music365, MOTORHEAD frontman Lemmy stormed out of a TV studio recently just minutes before a live interview - because producers asked him to put his cigarette out. Lemmy had sparked up a snout while waiting to be interviewed on the BBC Choice nightly arts and entertainment magazine Liquid News, but got the hump when he was politely asked to extinguish the tab in the non-smoking studio. A BBC spokesman confirmed that Lemmy was a no-show, but added that the man who gave us 'Ace Of Spades' didn't leave the building immediately - he found time to stop off in the hospitality suite to chug the best part of a bottle of Jack Daniels. The fuming Lemmy was due to appear on Liquid News to promote Motorhead's new single 'God Save The Queen'. MOTORHEAD's Bomber album will be available on July 24th as a deluxe limited edition blue vinyl LP...Ace Of Spades, Bomber, and Overkill, scheduled to be released this year in digi-pak format, have been pushed back for release in 2001. This year will see the band release a Best Of collection as well as a Rarities CD and an A/B sides album through Castle Music America. Also forthcoming from Motorhead is an expanded double CD version of No Sleep Till Hammersmith and coloured vinyl versions of Ace Of Spades and Overkill. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Jul 19 03:29:36 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 03:29:36 EDT Subject: HW: The Wire Message-ID: In a message dated 7/18/00 10:01:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > I only just got July's issue of The Wire (www.thewire.co.uk), anyway there's > a dead good article about space music, and some of the most sensible comment > I've ever seen on Hawkwind in the music press. Might even type some in. I guess I'm just missing something really obvious, but there just seemed to be a menu w/no links to the actual articles. Chuck From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Wed Jul 19 04:04:19 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:04:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: : Dive! Dive! Dive! and other alarming, reactive words............. . 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Too many Leffes at lunchtime yesterday... -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Chuck Rosenberg > Sent: 19 July 2000 08:30 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: The Wire > > > In a message dated 7/18/00 10:01:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > > > I only just got July's issue of The Wire (www.thewire.co.uk), > anyway there's > > a dead good article about space music, and some of the most sensible > comment > > I've ever seen on Hawkwind in the music press. Might even > type some in. > > I guess I'm just missing something really obvious, but there just > seemed to > be a menu w/no links to the actual articles. Chuck > From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Jul 19 06:20:04 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:20:04 +0100 Subject: HW: The Wire Message-ID: > Too many Leffes at lunchtime > yesterday... > > -- Andy > Respec'. :-) R. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 19 07:21:38 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 07:21:38 EDT Subject: OFF:motorhead/lem walks out of bbc/expanded no sleep til h'smith re-issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 19 Jul 00, at 0:26, Robert C. Mayo wrote: > As reported by music365, MOTORHEAD frontman Lemmy stormed out of a TV > studio recently just minutes before a live interview - because > producers asked him to put his cigarette out. Jeez, expecting Lemmy to appear without a smoke would be like interviewing Cher without her silicone... the man > who gave us 'Ace Of Spades' didn't leave the building immediately - he > found time to stop off in the hospitality suite to chug the best part > of a bottle of Jack Daniels. That's our boy! Also forthcoming from Motorhead is an > expanded double CD version of No Sleep Till Hammersmith Woo Hoo! Any details on this one? theo From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Jul 19 08:54:24 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 08:54:24 -0400 Subject: OFF: Star Nation-Napster Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > Also, remember that major labels hold outstanding loans ("advances") on all > the artists they sign. It's not too difficult to doctor the books in such > a way that "expenses" related to the artist are shown to be greater than > the royalties due to the artist, hence the artist is always in debt to the > company, and the company never has to pay the artist. I recall that one of Frank Zappa's beefs with Warner Bros was discovering that large numbers of "units" had been flogged out the back door, off the books, and so he never earned a dime from them. Mind you, this may have been a case of Herb Cohen stiffing him, not just Warner Bros, which is where I guess we get our on-topic link (can anyone say "Doug Smith" when assembling the top ten list of crappy managers?:) There is a very interesting section on "creative accounting practices" in Glebbeek's landmark biography of Jimi Hendrix. Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 19 12:12:18 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 17:12:18 +0100 Subject: Original Hawkwind: Birkenhead 15th July 2000 Message-ID: The gig was at the Stairways Rock Club in downtown Birkenhead. We arrived at a nearby pub around 10pm and saw Trev Hughes and Thomas Crimble there. We had a brief chat. Thomas was a likeable chap and was looking forward to the gig, which we found out wasn't to start until midnight. I also had a little chat to Huw. The hall was full, though not very large. The band put on a very good show, with the crowd clearly enjoying it. Nik came onto the set in his Spiky Alien kit, and I have no idea how he could stand it in all that latex given the heat. Thomas Crimble was very solid on bass, with Ollis absolutely excellent on drums - matching Simon King or Richard Chadwick at their best. As most will know, DikMik didn't make it, and they had a young guy (from the backing band?) making whooshy noises on synth. They opened with Sonic Attack and closed with Silver Machine (Nik's alternative lyrics, washing machine and all) with Shouldn't Do That for the encore. I wasn't taking notes on the order, but other tracks played were Be Yourself, Psychedelic Warlords, Paranoia, Hurry On Sundown, Seeing It As You Really Are, Master of the Universe, Brainstorm (without the key change at the end). I'd have to check my tape to complete the list. Most songs involved a fair amount of jamming, and for me they were at their best doing this because of Nik and Huw's problems with the lyrics. Others said they'd have preferred a more structured gig, but I suspect that there wasn't sufficient rehearsal time to make that happen. It seemed to me later in the gig that Nik was perhaps a little out of it, often singing words to other songs, or singing the same song, but out of time. It's hard to tell, since sometimes this is merely part of his "rock circus" act. Huw appeared to be trying to cover for him at times, but was a bit hoarse himself. Thomas Crimble was excellent at this point in continuing to sing songs straight and in a melodic voice. At one point during Hurry On Sundown, Huw was clearly failing to bring Nik back into line on the lyrics and did a deal with Thomas where whenever Nik sang a line, they'd each sing a different one, like a canon but with Nik's randomness - the effect was actually pretty good with that song and I'd really like to see this done more deliberately. For me, the best track of the evening was easily Seeing It As You Really Are, a favourite of mine anyway, with Be Yourself a close second. The stars of the evening were without doubt Crimble and Ollis. Nik was just a little too out of it and only shone jamming his sax, with even the flute on Hurry On Sundown not really working very well. But as someone said, if one of the band is too gone to play, that's pretty authentic early Hawkwind too. If any of you get the chance to catch them in Wales on Friday, do it. You won't regret it, I wish I was going myself. Neil: sorry for being vague. Not only can't I hear much when there's a lot of noise, I was fairly out of it myself. Anyone: My tape break was during Seeing It As You Really Are, which was a bummer. If anyone gets a tape of this gig without that, I'd be very very interested in a trade. I also reckon my tape has suffered from being too close to the speakers. FoFP From blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US Wed Jul 19 13:20:35 2000 From: blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US (Brad M. Lauchnor) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:20:35 -0600 Subject: BOC: 5-18-2000 tree structure Message-ID: Here is the tree structure for the 5-18-2000 Tree. If you are not on the list please contact me and I'll get you on. The good news is that Paul Mather and I will be trading this show and he will provide me a copy of "The Thing" which we will make the next show to tree. I'll announce that one a bit later. For right now: branches send me 2 blanks and postage, leaves contact your branches. Enjoy! Branch 1 Tom Marazita toad at engineering.ucsb.edu Mark Licht walkerb79 at juno.com Daniel Ligon makmorn at qis.net Ted Jackson tojackso at library.syr.edu Jeff Perkins trudyw at locl.net Thomas Nelson gumby at telis.org Branch 2 Michael Habiby cableshoppe at global2000.net George Payton george at londonohio.com John McIntyre mcintyre at pa.msu.edu Robert Pardini robert_pardini at grove.com Ric Hedges Rocker22 at aol.com Europe Branch Hajo Steffen Hajo.Steffen at t-online.de Stuart Hamilton stuarthamilton at strayduck.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Jul 19 14:06:05 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 19:06:05 +0100 Subject: HW-Star Nation-Napster Message-ID: Checkout the web site at: http:www.andygee.dial.pipex.com and yuo will see it all - sorry this is not a live link but I am having trouble with my server, Andy G (Dead Earnest) ----- Original Message ----- From: Michaelangelo Blackman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 3:12 AM Subject: Re: HW-Star Nation-Napster Hello Andrew I am relativley new to the BOC and I hope you can forgive my ignorance, but I was wondering if you could enlighten me on your label etc your email has sparked my curiosity - ever curious is the cat :^) cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:34 AM Subject: Re: HW-Star Nation-Napster Oh - so that's where I've been going wrong all this time - I'm paying the musicians on my label real royalties with nothing taken out for hidden extras!!!!!!!!!!! I want to know why musicians for the last 30 years have sacrficed themselves on the altar that is major label status, sell more CD's than labels like mine could ever dream of and still manage to get ripped off by the major labels - are the labels that clever or are they that daft? BTW - just take a listen to 'Awful' by Hole and that should change your minds - one staggeringly great single!!! Andy Garibaldi. ---------------------------------------- I thought her essay was great, esp. the line to the effect of: '...with a record label, I'm almost giving away my music for nothing, so what's the big deal about Napster...' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 19 15:53:16 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:53:16 +0100 Subject: HW: The Wire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 18:00 18/07/00, Andy Gilham wrote: >I only just got July's issue of The Wire (www.thewire.co.uk), anyway there's >a dead good article about space music, and some of the most sensible comment >I've ever seen on Hawkwind in the music press. And to think I've just sent excerpts to Private Eye, in the hope they'll put it in "Pseud's Corner"! (My cunning plan is to get enough of these snippets included in Pseud's Corner to pay for my subscription to the magazine ;-) ). Dave. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jul 19 16:37:41 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:37:41 +0100 Subject: HW: The Wire In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000719204913.009d6520@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Are you calling me a pseud?? :)) Ok, maybe it was the effect of the lunchtime Leffes, but I really got off on the "celestial mechanics apprehended entirely in the first person" when describing "Master of the Universe." Hmm, I see what you mean, now I'm sober... (I had to take issue with the Fushitsusha live review in the same issue though, which failed to mention that most of the audience drifted off to the pub...) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Jul 19 16:36:59 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 16:36:59 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 7/15/00 Message-ID: 7/15/00 1.American Analog Set--Late One Sunday (Late One Sunday... EP) 2.Ubu--Jean Francois Pauvros: La Chanson du Cure-dent (Et la Merdre) 3.Census of Hallucinations--Devil's Answer (Census of Hallucinations) 4.Atomic Rooster--Tomorrow Night (Death Walks Behind You) 5.Hawkwind--Sputnik Stan (Love in Space) 6.Orb--Outlands (Dipping Into the Cyberworld) 7.Farflung--Gleam (The Belief Module) 8.Headset--Asteroid Lloyd/Suicide Van (Brownout) 9.Mike Oldfield--excerpt from Hergest Ridge (Hergest Ridge) 10.Popul Vuh--Pages from the Book of Daring (Sing, for Song Drives Away the Wolves) 11.Francois Faton Cahen--Alize (Great Winds; thanks to Musea/Gazul) 12.Mushroom--The Magic of Michael (Analog Hi-fi Surprise) 13.Spacehead--Upside Jam/Aero Pharaohs (In Space We Trust '95-'98) 14.Kingston Wall--Party Goes On (Trilogy) 15 Amon Duul II--excerpt from Yeti (Yeti) thanks, Chuck "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS for WINAMP: Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS For REAL-AUDIO: KUCR is now available on RealPlayer from RealAudio. Many of you Windows and Mac users already have it so no download and installation would be necessary. Connect to the Internet and open RealPlayer. Select file from the menu and then "open location". Type in http://www.kucr.org:8000 and say OK. Repeat the process if you lose the station at any time. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Jul 19 17:19:37 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:19:37 -0700 Subject: OFF: The Wire Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:37:41 +0100, Andy Gilham wrote: >(I had to take issue with the Fushitsusha live review in the same issue >though, which failed to mention that most of the audience drifted off to the >pub...) Isn't that a "given"? Sounds typical for the Fushitsusha shows I've seen. There's usually about two-dozen guys right up at the stage with their mouths wide open and blank "I've-just-gone-blind-from-looking-at-the-face-of-god" expressions on their faces, while the back of the venue contains the girlfriends of the quarter of the guys who: A) actually have girlfriends B) were stupid enough to bring them, huddling together with hands over ears, one occasionally venturing up to pull on oblivious boyfriend's jacket in vain attempt to get him to abandon the horrible noise. And no one in the middle ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com (no offense intended to: A> women who can appreciate Japanese psychedelic noise rockers [or not], B> guys who bring their girlfriends to shows they're guaranteed to hate, C> guys into Japanese noise rockers who are too nerdy to have a girlfriend; offense *is* intended, however, to musicians of any nationality who whine about not having an appropriately-colored pre-CBS vintage Telecaster provided for them and then proceed to blow the borrowed amp[s] they're using in retaliation) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Jul 19 17:19:18 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:19:18 -0700 Subject: HW: OFF: New A-I.com issue is up Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 19:48:45 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >Doug points out... >>>Adrian Shaw (profile/interview) >> >>Keith - great job on this article! It was a fantastic read for the subway >>ride home from work last night. > >Thanks. Karen K. deserves some credit for instigating it in a sense. Well then, thank you, too, Karen! >>It's Jack CASADY. > >Hey, this was done via e-mail...you know who to blame! :) I'll have to take that up with Ade next time the 'Frond are in town! >I shoulda caught >it though...if you had asked me, I think I'd have gotten it write. :) Yes, I'm sure you wouldn't spell it rong. ;^) And yes, certainly an inconsequential error, just like the "Death Trap" bit (that's why I call it "nit-picking"). I'm not actually going to COMPLAIN over the mention of one of my favorite songs - no way! >What did you think of the version of Wind of Change from "Thrilling"? Simon >House on stage w/ violin (as we hear in Steppenwolf just after (?)), but he >doesn't play the melody from the original version!!!! Yeah, a little disconcerting at first, but also very nice ... >But then Brock's >guitar bits are so awesome and energizing that I think this version is >perhaps the best (or maybe 'tied' with the original). One of the best things about Hawkwind is that when old songs get pulled out of the hat, they frequently go through extensive rearrangements. Not *all* of which are improvements (nor are all as radical as 'The Business Trip's "Quark..."), but I definitely prefer an occasional mis-step over a bunch of carbon copies. >Well, I liked the >Nottingham version also, but haven't played it in years. (People are still >auctioning this CD on the web...despite the fact that it won't exist >until.....when, Andy Gee?) Not to mention the fact that the Adrian Shaw article has made me really anxiously await the CD release of the 3 Weird Tapes (102, 103, 105) that he's on (IF they're actually gonna happen ... I'm still not holding my breath). Having seen him several times with Bevis Frond, he has definitely become my all-time second-favorite Hawkwind bassist (I hate to say it, but great as he is, Alan doesn't even come close - IMHO, of course!). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Wed Jul 19 19:47:04 2000 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:47:04 +1000 Subject: HW:Studio22 Tonight Message-ID: For the Australian's on the list , The Studio 22 show is on at 11.15pm tonight Thursday 20th July as per the TV Guide. www.hawkwind.com states it's on at 10:30pm Get those tapes a rollin' regards Marty Lawrence P.S. How many people on the list went to the show ? since it looks as if there are a few more .au addresses than before. I know of at least 2 :-) From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Jul 19 22:01:47 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:01:47 -0500 Subject: HW: "Brocasso" Message-ID: OK . . . I've been looking at the wonderful Hawkwind desktop theme for years and have to throw this observation out there for comment ... Whenever I look at the cover of Levitation which is one of the wallpaper "tiles", I see a Picasso like rendering of Dave Brock! :^) (image attached - only 50K so hopefully it was OK to send) also posted here: http://claim.to/brocasso.gif The nose is the lower right point of the triangle, the eye the center and the hair on either side of the triangle peak. Mustache and hint of teeth below the triangle base and the hill in the lower left corner looks like a woolly coat. Doesn't look quite the same on the CD cover. Well, maybe when held at a distance. We'll never look at Levitation the same way again. ;) Karen P.S. If anyone still wants the theme, the files needed are here: http://themeworld.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?keyword=hawkwind http://themeworld.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?keyword=themeins.zip You need both the theme itself and the theme install program. -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: brocasso.gif Type: image/gif Size: 37196 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jul 19 08:52:35 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:52:35 +0100 Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >I'll probably wear my white tee with "KOTJ/MF" on the front. A nice boy like you should wear a KOTJ/BAS t-shirt. -- Offended of Mayfair From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jul 20 03:58:33 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:58:33 +0100 Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >I'll probably wear my white tee with "KOTJ/MF" on the front. > > > A nice boy like you should wear a KOTJ/BAS t-shirt. No-one's called me a nice boy for years! (Anyway this isn't the traffic news with the Hairy Monster.) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Jul 20 06:39:20 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:39:20 -0500 Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I can't work it out, you guys At 01:52 PM 07/19/2000 +0100, you wrote: >>I'll probably wear my white tee with "KOTJ/MF" on the front. > > >A nice boy like you should wear a KOTJ/BAS t-shirt. >-- >Offended of Mayfair > Latter...W. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jul 20 07:24:07 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 07:24:07 EDT Subject: OFF: The Wire In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000719141937.009b0180@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: On 19 Jul 00, at 14:19, Doug Pearson wrote: > Isn't that a "given"? Sounds typical for the Fushitsusha shows I've > seen. There's usually about two-dozen guys right up at the stage with > their mouths wide open and blank > "I've-just-gone-blind-from-looking-at-the-face-of-god" expressions on > their faces, while the back of the venue contains the girlfriends of > the quarter of the guys who: A) actually have girlfriends B) were > stupid enough to bring them, huddling together with hands over ears, > one occasionally venturing up to pull on oblivious boyfriend's jacket > in vain attempt to get him to abandon the horrible noise. And no one > in the middle ... > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > > (no offense intended to: A> women who can appreciate Japanese > psychedelic noise rockers [or not], B> guys who bring their > girlfriends to shows they're guaranteed to hate, C> guys into Japanese > noise rockers who are too nerdy to have a girlfriend; offense *is* > intended, however, to musicians of any nationality who whine about not > having an appropriately-colored pre-CBS vintage Telecaster provided > for them and then proceed to blow the borrowed amp[s] they're using in > retaliation) Doug, you've got a way with words! Thanks for the gem... theo From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jul 20 10:11:00 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:11:00 +0100 Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20000720053920.006893c8@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: In article <3.0.1.32.20000720053920.006893c8 at pop.mindspring.com>, Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley writes >I can't work it out, you guys Kick Out The Jams, Brothers and Sis-TAHS! -- Jon From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jul 20 10:38:37 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:38:37 +0100 Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >I can't work it out, you guys > > Kick Out The Jams, Brothers and Sis-TAHS! But my shirt has the rude version. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jul 20 13:47:21 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 18:47:21 +0100 Subject: ABC Broadcast - (spoiler) Message-ID: Just had a e-mail through from a non-HW fan in Australia who I managed to persuade to tape the ABC broadcast: BIG GAP FOR THOSE WHO DON'T WANT THE TRACK LIST well the Hawkwind programme finished up about 5 minutes ago. I'm not sure what you were expecting, but the set was actually quite short: about 25 minutes including 4 songs (Silver Machine, Utopia, Love in Space and Free Fall) plus some very brief interview segments. Thought this might be of interest. Ian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 20 16:53:09 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:53:09 +0100 Subject: HW: The Wire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 21:37 19/07/00, Andy Gilham wrote: >Are you calling me a pseud?? :)) Only from a safe distance... 350 miles or so. I'm just staggered that The Wire mentioned Hawkwind at all! Dave. From Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jul 20 17:37:44 2000 From: Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 22:37:44 +0100 Subject: HW: All Good Girls In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000720215144.009c3e50@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Good Evening All Whilst wandering through the net I downloaded a small snippet of a song aledgedly by the Hawks called "All Good Girls" it is only an intro. does anyone know anything about it? Thanks Brian From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jul 20 18:14:39 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:14:39 +0100 Subject: HW: The Wire In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000720215144.009c3e50@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > >Are you calling me a pseud?? :)) > > Only from a safe distance... 350 miles or so. Actually I might have to cop to it - I picked up that copy of The Wire when I saw it while browsing in the bookshop of the Tate Modern... -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Thu Jul 20 19:40:18 2000 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:40:18 +1000 Subject: HW:Hawkwind on Australian TV Message-ID: Well it finally was broadcast last night,and a few things had changed from the actual taping. Set List of the actual show was :- Assassins Of Allah/Space etc Utopia Love in space FreeFall Brainstorm Silver Machine Last nights show started with Silver Machine, followed by Utopia,Love in Space & finally Freefall. There was a couple of interview links with Harvey & Dave. For those who like Simon's Violin playing, it is very very clear in the Mix, which I thought was very good , apart from Jerry 's Backing Vocals which I couldn't hear. But It was interesting to hear the sound clearly, whereas at the Taping I was next to Jerry and couldn't hear Simon at all. Harveys presentation of freefall is similar to Bobs,and Utopia is as good as ever. Its a shame that there is No Assassins/Space and Brainstorm with "stole my stash", but it's better than nothing. Lets hope that a few people who watched the show , will get interested in the Band, and support the tour next year. Mr Brock where do you want your tape sent ? regards Marty Lawrence From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Thu Jul 20 22:01:48 2000 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:01:48 +1000 Subject: HW:Nik's reunion Band Message-ID: I noticed that there was mean't to be a gig in Birkenhead on july 15th, did anyone go ? also has anyone actually got a copy of Harvey's red shift ? regards Marty From flossbac at NLCI.COM Fri Jul 21 00:27:29 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:27:29 -0500 Subject: HW:Hawkwind on Australian TV Message-ID: Well now comes the time when I must ask any australian volunteers if they can supply me with an NTSC video copy of the show.... John Majka flossbac at nlci.com > Well it finally was broadcast last night,and a few things had changed from > the actual taping. > Set List of the actual show was :- > Assassins Of Allah/Space etc > Utopia > Love in space > FreeFall > Brainstorm > Silver Machine > > Last nights show started with Silver Machine, followed by Utopia,Love in > Space & finally Freefall. > There was a couple of interview links with Harvey & Dave. > For those who like Simon's Violin playing, it is very very clear in the Mix, > which I thought was very good , apart from > Jerry 's Backing Vocals which I couldn't hear. > But It was interesting to hear the sound clearly, whereas at the Taping I > was next to Jerry and couldn't hear Simon > at all. > > Harveys presentation of freefall is similar to Bobs,and Utopia is as good as > ever. > Its a shame that there is No Assassins/Space and Brainstorm with "stole my > stash", but it's better than nothing. > Lets hope that a few people who watched the show , will get interested in > the Band, and support the tour > next year. > > Mr Brock where do you want your tape sent ? > > regards > > Marty Lawrence > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jul 21 04:20:51 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:20:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Times, rawk, tees Message-ID: Just spluttered on my muesli reading Barbara Ellen's review of the Jimmy Page and the Black Crowes album, in the Times (Murdoch rag) this morning: "I like a bit of _rawk_ now and then. Most of us do, so long as it's done nicely, and we're not expected to wear Hawkwind t-shirts." -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 21 05:42:15 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 04:42:15 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawklords..".is anybody OUT there ?" ? Message-ID: Search update $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ WANTED Hawklords-25 years on \ CD Cash to you = $100.00 Condition - like new Reply to: wilberry at mindspring.com $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Latter...W. From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Fri Jul 21 10:28:31 2000 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 16:28:31 +0200 Subject: HW: Hawklords..".is anybody OUT there ?" ? In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20000721044215.00686e08@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: No even for a $1000 ;-) -BArt On 21 Jul 00, at 4:42, Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley wrote: > Search update > > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > > WANTED > Hawklords-25 years on \ CD > Cash to you = $100.00 > Condition - like new > Reply to: wilberry at mindspring.com > > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > Latter...W. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 21 10:55:37 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 15:55:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Spare Hawkwind items for sale In-Reply-To: Chuck Rosenberg's message of Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:41:29 EDT Message-ID: Chuck Rosenberg writes: > In a message dated 7/14/00 3:41:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > > > Undisclosed Files CD > > > > - a compilation of live tracks from 1984 and 1988. Orgone Accumulator is > > a very punkish version and should be heard if you haven't already. > > Curse of Man appears nowhere else. Most other tracks are versions that > > don't appear elsewhere except for one track on Ambient Anarchists. > > > > 10 Pounds +P&P > > > > Orgone Accumulator > > Sonic Attack > > Watching The Grass Grow > > Damned By The Curse of Man > > Ghost Dance > > except GD appears in an edited form on the Elf/Hawk CD. wank wank, Chuck You're right. That's a mistake in the Codex that I'll have to correct. Thanks. FoFP From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 21 14:29:40 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:29:40 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawklords..".is anybody OUT there ?" ? In-Reply-To: <200007211427.QAA29382@smtp8.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: I'll sell you mine then,when I get it............... If I get it . Thanks anyway BArt At 04:28 PM 07/21/2000 +0200, you wrote: >No even for a $1000 ;-) > >-BArt > >On 21 Jul 00, at 4:42, Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley wrote: > >> Search update >> >> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ >> >> WANTED >> Hawklords-25 years on \ CD >> Cash to you = $100.00 >> Condition - like new >> Reply to: wilberry at mindspring.com >> >> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ >> Latter...W. > Latter...W. From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Fri Jul 21 14:42:19 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:42:19 -0700 Subject: I'm ba-ack... Message-ID: Hi all.. well, after a year or so absence, I finally decided to come back on the good ol' boc-l. Hopefully, there are still a few here that remember me. Any good BOC discussions going on? News? I have a few things I wanted to post about and will do so when I have more time. I'm not a huge Hawkwind fan so I'm hoping that the list still has at least some BOC content. JB From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jul 21 14:51:11 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:51:11 EDT Subject: I'm ba-ack... Message-ID: In a message dated 7/21/00 2:42:02 PM, Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET writes: << I'm not a huge Hawkwind fan so I'm hoping that the list still has at least some BOC content. >> yo, mistah brooks! i've forwarded virtually _all_ the boc-related material to you all along. hear what i say, blood? heh nice to see yiz "<>" From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Fri Jul 21 14:59:45 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:59:45 -0700 Subject: I'm ba-ack... Message-ID: Yeah and I've really appreciated it too. Thats one reason I came back, I kept seeing stuff from you that I wanted to reply to. Thanks for keeping me in the loop. JB > -----Original Message----- > From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 11:51 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: I'm ba-ack... > > > In a message dated 7/21/00 2:42:02 PM, Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET writes: > > << > > I'm not a huge Hawkwind fan so I'm hoping that the list still > has at least > > some BOC content. > > >> > yo, mistah brooks! > > i've forwarded virtually _all_ the boc-related material to > you all along. > hear what i say, blood? > heh > > nice to see yiz > "<>" > From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 21 17:48:05 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 21:48:05 GMT Subject: HW: ABC Broadcast Message-ID: Hawfan Greetings! I would love to trade someone for a VHS copy of the recent broadcast, if anyone got it on VHS..... Thanx! Darrin ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Fri Jul 21 20:11:49 2000 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Sara Zaza) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 00:11:49 -0000 Subject: HW Actors, Artists, etc. Message-ID: Just thought I'd post this brief entry from a book called "Actors, Artists, Authors & Attempted Assassins(!), The Almanac Of Famous & Infamous People" by Susan Stetler, from 1991. Sounds like her research is from '84-'85. Came across this at the library I work at. Hawkwind (Dave Brock; Alan Davey; Clive Deamer; Huw Lloyd Langton) British music group Noted for live performances, rock band formed 1969; success tainted by bad publicity, drug use; hit single, "Silver Machine," 1972. John Stanton From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat Jul 22 02:37:51 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 08:37:51 +0200 Subject: HW: ABC Broadcast Message-ID: Well,wouldn't mind a copy either! Have a very large Hawkwind & Related Video collection. So can certainly swap for another Hey I even throw in 2 greetings filip ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrin McKeehen To: Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 11:48 PM Subject: HW: ABC Broadcast > Hawfan Greetings! > > I would love to trade someone for a VHS copy of the recent broadcast, if > anyone got it on VHS..... > > Thanx! > > Darrin > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jul 22 04:38:37 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michaelangelo68) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:08:37 +0930 Subject: HW: ABC Broadcast Message-ID: Hi yeah i taped the show on vhs whats the deal?? michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrin McKeehen To: Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 7:18 AM Subject: HW: ABC Broadcast > Hawfan Greetings! > > I would love to trade someone for a VHS copy of the recent broadcast, if > anyone got it on VHS..... > > Thanx! > > Darrin > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Jul 22 04:39:49 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michaelangelo68) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:09:49 +0930 Subject: HW: ABC Broadcast Message-ID: Hi I would be interested in any hawkwind material especially video what would you want in return? cheers michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Filip Vanhuyse To: Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 4:07 PM Subject: Re: HW: ABC Broadcast > Well,wouldn't mind a copy either! > Have a very large Hawkwind & Related Video collection. > So can certainly swap for another > Hey I even throw in 2 > > greetings > filip > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Darrin McKeehen > To: > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 11:48 PM > Subject: HW: ABC Broadcast > > > > Hawfan Greetings! > > > > I would love to trade someone for a VHS copy of the recent broadcast, if > > anyone got it on VHS..... > > > > Thanx! > > > > Darrin > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat Jul 22 05:27:09 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 11:27:09 +0200 Subject: HW: ABC Broadcast Message-ID: Hello Michael, e-mail me privately. If you don't mind I can send you my very big Hawkwind & related video collection. There is certainly stuff on it you've never seen. Maybe you can send your video list too,you never know if there's something else I don't have. best wishes filip ----- Original Message ----- From: michaelangelo68 To: Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 10:39 AM Subject: Re: HW: ABC Broadcast > Hi > > I would be interested in any hawkwind material especially video > > what would you want in return? > > cheers michael > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Filip Vanhuyse > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 4:07 PM > Subject: Re: HW: ABC Broadcast > > > > Well,wouldn't mind a copy either! > > Have a very large Hawkwind & Related Video collection. > > So can certainly swap for another > > Hey I even throw in 2 > > > > greetings > > filip > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Darrin McKeehen > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 11:48 PM > > Subject: HW: ABC Broadcast > > > > > > > Hawfan Greetings! > > > > > > I would love to trade someone for a VHS copy of the recent broadcast, if > > > anyone got it on VHS..... > > > > > > Thanx! > > > > > > Darrin > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Sat Jul 22 09:37:16 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:37:16 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Mohawk Place 7/18 Message-ID: The Brain Surgeons Mohawk Place Buffalo, NY July 18 Setlist (as I remember it): St. Vitus Dance (Deb guitar, David bass) Last Angry Woman (") Stones in My Passway (Deb guitar, David bass) A Kiss is a Promise (Deb bass, David guitar, Al mandolin/drums) Niagra Falls (Deb bass, David guitar) Cities on Flame (Deb guitar, David bass) On the Road (Again) (Deb bass, David guitar, Al drums/harmonica) Death Valley Nights (Deb bass, David guitar, Al mandolin) Dominance & Submission (Deb guitar, David bass) Name Your Monster (") Time Will Take Care of You (") Godzilla (") Astronomy (Deb bass, David guitar, Al mandolin, guest vocalist) The Red & The Black (Deb bass, David guitar) Encore: Biloxi (David bass, Al percussion) I left early from Rochester so I would be able to find Mohawk Place before sunset. So, I was the first person to arrive at the bar other than the bartender. I had a beer and we bemoaned that live bands are being replaced everywhere by DJs who attract a younger crowd. Mohawk Place has a band every night. And the bartender was genuinely excited that the Surgeons were returing to rock the place after a two year hiatus. As people began to wander in, I met Mark and Rich from the BOC BB and a couple of Buffalo fans. Just about everyone at the gig was either an established Surgeons fan, or a hardcore BOC fan. We had no idea what the Surgeons would sound like as a 3-piece. But I definately wasn't expecting them to attempt St. Vitus dance without the extra guitar muscle. The result was sometimes powerful, a little sloppy but foot-tapping, and it was great just to hear the band going for it. Deb played guitar on most of the songs and did a good job. She knew the parts, but didn't solo much. At times, the complexity of the parts she played sapped the power and attitude out of her singing. And that's what I saw as the only major drawback of the new lineup. Another tune that surprised me was A Kiss is a Promise. If only because Pete's solo just seemed perfect for it. Well, David is a very talented guitar player. He invented a new solo that fit just as well, but had a completely different feel to the original. More bouncy. Rhythmic, but with some flying fingers too. I wondered what the Surgeons would have been like if Peter, Billy, and David were all on guitar. But I was enjoying the now too much to think about it for long. Niagra Falls was dedicated to Helen Wheels and the people of Buffalo and it was a tight performance. The harmonies were beautiful. It sounded like a celebration. On the Road (Again), one of my favorite tunes from Piece of Work, was also a favorte of the crowd by the time the song was finished. Al played drums and harmonica simultaneously, and David's solo was a jaw-dropping variation of the original sax solo. Most of the BOC covers were decent, but sorely lacked the extra "twiddley." On Death Valley Nights I missed the drumming. For Astronomy, Al called up the singer of a local band who apparently had done the honors at the last Mohawk Place gig as well. I couldn't appreciate his vocal style. Too "howling" for me. But it was still a lot of fun to hear the song in a new way. Godzilla, though, was a special treat and it was amazing. It was the first time I had heard Al drum on Godzilla live, and it must have sounded just like the old days. Or at least it looked like it. He wore an oversized lizard mask and drummed to a strobe light. Red & the Black was also a great version, mostly because of David's scorching guitar work, and the fact that Al sang the whole thing solo, which made him look as if he were a crazy man talking to himself. "It's alright. It's all-RIGHT." It may seem strange that they ended the show with Biloxi, but it worked beautifuly. Deb gave her best singing performance of the night because she was unencumbered by an instrument. And Dave and Al's backing vocals were just like on the record. Dave flubbed his bass line a little, but it just added to the fun we were having. Even with only three people playing songs meant for five, the Surgeons were able to blast the rafters and get everyone anxiously awaiting their next trip to town. Tourdates can be found at http://www.cellsum.com/ Brian ----- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com http://www.bhalligan.com/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Jul 22 08:36:54 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 13:36:54 +0100 Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera Message-ID: Well, sign me up to the Terry Ollis fan club! He's fucking brilliant - "Be Yourself" perhaps the best bit but it was all great. Went on until about half past one, massive long versions of everything, jam to end including bits of "Motorway City" and "Spirit of the Age", some guy turning up for a dual-flute attack in "D-Rider". Some pictures on: http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham/gwyl/gwyl.htm -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jul 22 10:09:54 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 15:09:54 +0100 Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera Message-ID: How big was the audience, Andy? ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 1:36 PM Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera > Well, sign me up to the Terry Ollis fan club! He's fucking brilliant - "Be > Yourself" perhaps the best bit but it was all great. Went on until about > half past one, massive long versions of everything, jam to end including > bits of "Motorway City" and "Spirit of the Age", some guy turning up for a > dual-flute attack in "D-Rider". > > Some pictures on: http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham/gwyl/gwyl.htm > > -- Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jul 22 10:13:22 2000 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trevor thoms) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 14:13:22 GMT Subject: Judge Trev lift Big G G Message-ID: Hi there, My transport to the Big Green Gathering has vanished... Can anyone give me a lift there on monday or tuesday... I am in Brighton, might be able to get to London... I have several tickets + vehicle pass to offer... Wednesday might do at a pinch... Help! Love, Trev (Judge) I C U ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Jul 22 10:49:19 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 15:49:19 +0100 Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera In-Reply-To: <000801bff3e6$84712b20$10a1883e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: > How big was the audience, Andy? I'm rubbish as judging these things, but several hundred, I'd say. The gwyl (which I think just means "festival") is kind of a town event, so as well as those who'd come especially to see the band, there were lots of ordinary people too, of all ages - quite a lot of whom stayed through the set. I chatted with Nik and Terry beforehand, and Nik introduced me to the whooshy-noises player, who was called something like Lloyd George. Well, first of all he introduced his as "Dik Mik," cue all the usual jokes about looking good for all of it etc... If you've looked at my snaps, you'll have seen that they were all very approachable and happy to sign autographs and stuff. There was another band, the "LA Doors," a tribute band who were OK as such things go, I guess, but setting yourself up as a Jim Morrison impersonator takes a bigger ego than this guy really had to get away with it. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Jul 22 11:43:41 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 16:43:41 +0100 Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera In-Reply-To: <000801bff3e6$84712b20$10a1883e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: PS just added a scan of the ticket to the page. How many mistakes can YOU count?!? PPS feel free to use the pictures but please do let me know, and give me a credit, if you do! I have higher resolution versions here as well. (Aren't digital cameras great? No fucking around with film and developing, just plug it into the USB jack on your PC and Bob's your uncle!) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Jul 22 12:49:44 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 12:49:44 -0400 Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Andy Gilham wrote: => credit, if you do! I have higher resolution versions here as well. (Aren't => digital cameras great? No fucking around with film and developing, just => plug it into the USB jack on your PC and Bob's your uncle!) The Sony Digital Mavicas are even easier: just take out the 3.5" floppy, put it in your floppy drive, and view the JPEGs (or BMPs)! No messing around with cabling or extraneous software... Cheers, Paul (diehard 35mm film user). e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Sat Jul 22 15:46:17 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 14:46:17 -0500 Subject: HW: Steve Hayes Message-ID: TO: Steve Hayes, my reply to you, "bounced". Please contact wilberry at mindspring.com Goodbye From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Jul 22 23:00:58 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 23:00:58 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 7/22/00 Message-ID: 7/22/00 1.Hawkwind--Orgone Accumulator (Undisclosed Files--Addendum) 2.Melodic Energy Commission--Song of the Delatron (Moon Phase Compendium) 3.The Rabbit's Hat--Come With Me (The Magician) 4.Headset--Chroma-key (Brownout) 5.Escapade--Postscript: A Flickering (Due to a Faulty Premonition) 6.Sur Sudha--Resham Firri (Images of Nepal) 7.The Orb--Little Fluffy Clouds (Dipping into the Cyberworld) 8.Ashra--Lotus (Best of the Private Tapes) 9.Kinder Atom--Theme from Supernice (Supernice Hippypants) 10.Popul Vuh--title track (In the Gardens of Pharaoh) 11.Species Being--Track #1 (Orgone Therapy; thanks to Innerspace) 12.Krom Lek--It's All Starting to Merge (Inspirational Floatation Compilation) 13.Spacious Mind--Time Recircle (Organic Mind Solution) 14.Hawkwind--Ghost Dance (Undisclosed Files--Addendum) Thanks, Chuck "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS for WINAMP: Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS For REAL-AUDIO: KUCR is now available on RealPlayer from RealAudio. Many of you Windows and Mac users already have it so no download and installation would be necessary. Connect to the Internet and open RealPlayer. Select file from the menu and then "open location". Type in http://www.kucr.org:8000 and say OK. Repeat the process if you lose the station at any time. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Jul 23 09:31:30 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:31:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Lemmy in The Times Message-ID: Yep, that Murdoch rag again: http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/07/22/timmetmms01006.html AND! http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/07/22/timmetmms02003.html -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Jul 23 09:48:17 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:48:17 -0400 Subject: HW: Lemmy in The Times In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Andy Gilham wrote: => Yep, that Murdoch rag again: => => http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/07/22/timmetmms01006.html Wow! Is Lemmy from Anglesey (Ynys Mon), or did he just live/grow up there? I lived in Bangor for a couple of years (just a stone's throw [literally] from the Telford Bridge), and it would've been cool to stroll past Lemmy's old house thinking, "so this is where masters are born..." ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Jul 23 11:59:25 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:59:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Lemmy in The Times In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I dunno, I always thought he was from Stoke (same as my dad). -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Jul 23 12:07:34 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:07:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: digital cameras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The Sony Digital Mavicas are even easier: just take out the 3.5" floppy, > put it in your floppy drive, and view the JPEGs (or BMPs)! No messing > around with cabling or extraneous software... > > Cheers, I looked into those, but the trouble is that the storage capacity of a floppy is too low - I took about 15 Mb worth of jpegs on Friday (I've cropped and resized the ones I've published). What I got in the end was the Sony Cybershot dsc-f505, which has a fantastic Zeiss lens (10x optical zoom) and 2.1 Megapixel imaging, and jacked the memory up to 64Mb, which I hope will be more than I'll ever need. The USB link is great, you just plug it in and it's like an extra hard disk, and almost as fast. 'Course, that was before last Christmas, so it's bound to be out of date by now! > > Paul (diehard 35mm film user). It's a lot like vinyl vs CD, I feel that in a way I really prefer film, but digital is just so much more convenient! Especially when you're putting most of your pictures on the web anyway. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Jul 23 13:15:29 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:15:29 -0400 Subject: OFF: digital cameras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Andy Gilham wrote: => > The Sony Digital Mavicas are even easier: just take out the 3.5" floppy, => > put it in your floppy drive, and view the JPEGs (or BMPs)! No messing => > around with cabling or extraneous software... => => I looked into those, but the trouble is that the storage capacity of a => floppy is too low - I took about 15 Mb worth of jpegs on Friday (I've => cropped and resized the ones I've published). What I got in the end was the => Sony Cybershot dsc-f505, which has a fantastic Zeiss lens (10x optical zoom) => and 2.1 Megapixel imaging, and jacked the memory up to 64Mb, which I hope => will be more than I'll ever need. The USB link is great, you just plug it => in and it's like an extra hard disk, and almost as fast. I guess the advantage of floppies is that the limit on the number of photos you can take is the number of floppies you're willing to lug around. But, the mechanical floppy drive does drain the battery faster. The Mavica to which I have occasional access belongs to a school system, and so is ideally convenient for classroom and field use. => > Paul (diehard 35mm film user). => => It's a lot like vinyl vs CD, I feel that in a way I really prefer film, but => digital is just so much more convenient! Especially when you're putting => most of your pictures on the web anyway. I agree totally. But, it seems that most I've seen have inferior optics and lens support compared to 35mm SLR cameras, though I don't keep up with either scene, really, so digital cameras might be a lot better now. The impression I have is that digital cameras are equivalent to those point-n-click all-in-one 35mm cameras (which aren't bad). Sounds like yours is really nifty, and I really like the photos you put up. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 23 13:43:43 2000 From: Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:43:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: digital cameras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello All The one I use is a Fuji mx700 (over 2 years old an antique) It has the flash path adaptor which you plug the memory card in then plug it into the floppy drive which works well. The only thing I dont like is the fact it has a fixed wide angle lense which made the Beduoin photos I took look like the were playing Wembley Arena. Which they should be if there was any justice. Brian From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Jul 23 15:01:47 2000 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:01:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Yst..... etc Message-ID: Hi, The HW gig at that funny sounding place in Wales was a corker. Terry, Nik, Huw & Thomas all being on fine form (& 2 unknown (to me) keyboard players) As Andy said, lots of rambling long jams, which were great (as long as you like rambling long jams). Take a look at Andy's photos to see Nik's latest outfit to rival any from the past. The whole event was very relaxed and friendly, not to mention in an amazing setting. If anyone finds out that the same incarnation of this band are playing elsewhere please publicise the fact, as Terry had no idea of any future gigs. Definitely worth making the effort to go along to see. Nik was talking very positively about the Ritual re-union gig, he specifically mentioned Dave & Lemmy, although Simon K is extremely unlikely. 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Public services announcement from Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]" To: Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 3:01 AM Subject: HW:Nik's reunion Band > I noticed that there was mean't to be a gig in Birkenhead on july 15th, did > anyone go ? > > also has anyone actually got a copy of Harvey's red shift ? > > regards > > Marty From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jul 23 22:54:49 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 02:54:49 GMT Subject: Off: Thin Lizzy Tour Dates Message-ID: Thu 08/24/00 Santa Ana, CA Galaxy Theatre Thu 08/31/00 Albuquerque, NM Midnight Rodeo Fri 09/01/00 San Antonio, TX Sunset Station Sat 09/02/00 Corpus Christi, TX Centre Theatre Sun 09/03/00 Killeen, TX Sandy's Mon 09/04/00 New Orleans, LA To Be Announced Tue 09/05/00 Fort Lauderdale, FL To Be Announced Thu 09/07/00 Greensboro, NC The Klick Fri 09/08/00 Garden City, SC Sandstone's Sat 09/09/00 Orlando, FL The Station Mon 09/11/00 Indianapolis, IN 8 Seconds Saloon Tue 09/12/00 Louisville, KY Coyote's Wed 09/13/00 Allentown, PA Crocodile Rock Cafe Thu 09/14/00 Highland, IN Finkies Fri 09/15/00 Peoria, IL The Infirmary Sat 09/16/00 St. Louis, MO Pops Sun 09/17/00 Kansas City, MO The Hurricane Wed 09/20/00 Plainview, NY The Vanderbilt Thu 09/21/00 Lebanon, PA D'Alexander Fri 09/22/00 Old Bridge, NJ Birch Hill Nite Club Sat 09/23/00 Springfield, VA Jaxx Sun 09/24/00 Philadelphia, PA Johns Boardwalk Tue 09/26/00 Cambridge, MA Agora Theatre Wed 09/27/00 Detroit, MI I-Rock Nightclub Thu 09/28/00 Waunakee, WI Attic Ballroom Fri 09/29/00 Lincoln, NE Royal Grove Sat 09/30/00 Golden, CO Buffalo Rose Mon 10/02/00 Seattle, WA Show Box Wed 10/04/00 Portland, OR Berbati's Pan Thu 10/05/00 Sacramento, CA Boardwalk Fri 10/06/00 Ventura, CA Ventura Theatre Sat 10/07/00 West Hollywood, CA Key Club ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK Mon Jul 24 05:30:11 2000 From: m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:30:11 +0100 Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Andy Gilham wrote: > ... massive long versions of everything, jam to end including > bits of "Motorway City" and "Spirit of the Age", some guy turning up for a > dual-flute attack in "D-Rider". This looks like the flute player that played with Huw at Blackheath in 1997, or is it just my imagination? For those of you who cannot recall then you could regard the 2nd and 3rd photos at http://www.rdg.ac.uk/~keswrims/blckhth.htm > Some pictures on: http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham/gwyl/gwyl.htm rather fine photos, hurrah! Mike w From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jul 24 05:51:00 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:51:00 +0100 Subject: NIK: Ystalyfera In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think you're right - Huw joked "we don't know who he is" so he probably knew him well! By gum, I was a fat bastard then! -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Mon Jul 24 06:34:27 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:34:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: Thin Lizzy Tour Dates Message-ID: The British dates are on my tour page at; http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk but I'm at a machine without web access so you'll have to look yourself:-) Stuart NP Rory Gallagher - Live In Europe http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 24 06:41:13 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:41:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Yst..... etc In-Reply-To: J D's message of Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:01:47 +0100 Message-ID: J D writes: > Nik was talking very positively about the Ritual re-union gig, he = > specifically mentioned Dave & Lemmy, although Simon K is extremely = > unlikely. > I for one, would be more than happy to see Terry there, as Simon's = > replacement. Seconded! There's no doubt that the man is a Hawkwind drummer. FoFP From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Mon Jul 24 16:15:21 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:15:21 -0700 Subject: HW:Nik's reunion Band Message-ID: I have Red Shift, we can do a deal. Ben ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > 'Red Shift' is currently out of print and not likely to be back in a hurry > so if ypu see one anywhere, grab it. > Public services announcement from > Andy Garibaldi. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 3:01 AM > Subject: HW:Nik's reunion Band > > > I noticed that there was mean't to be a gig in Birkenhead on july 15th, > did > > anyone go ? > > > > also has anyone actually got a copy of Harvey's red shift ? > > > > regards > > > > Marty From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Mon Jul 24 16:25:40 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:25:40 -0700 Subject: HW: NIK: JPEG Photos Message-ID: If anyone wants Photos of: Huw Lloyd Langton & the Huwligans at the Astro Club. Nik Turner's Fantastic All Stars at Glastonbury 2000. I'll put these on CD-R. About 100+ Photos 1280 X 1024 dpi. I'm looking for video, audio or more photos. If you dont have these but still want the pics thats no problem. cheers Ben From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jul 24 12:21:19 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:21:19 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: Ozrics interview Message-ID: Hi Folks... A couple interesting bits from the Ozrics interview in an upcoming issue of Record Collector. It was posted on alt.fan.ozric-tentacles for us to preview. Here are two interesting things ...what the hell is the Cheddar Festival, and does anyone know if HW is really playing there? And according to Gong's page, they're supposed to be here in the States during the bulk of September. Seaweed: We?re playing at the Cheddar Festival in September (insert date) though. Everybody off the old festival scene is playing. There?s us, Hawkwind, Gong, Here And Now, Roy Harper, Caravan, Steeleye Span (laughter) ? it?s an old-school folk/space festival. Out of reverence for authority, it?ll probably be Hawkwind, Gong and Caravan headlining the three nights and hopefully we?ll support. Going on just before Gong would be very pleasant for me. Ed: Only until the age of eight, when I got a real one. But I did use to make tapes of crowd noise, people cheering, and play along to that (mass laughter). It does wonders for your playing! You get this tingle up the back of your neck. After that it was all the H section in the record shop ? Hillage, Hendrix, Hawkwind, Here And Now, Hatfield And The North . . . and now I really like Steve Vai. HA! Sounds familiar! Grakkl (FAA) From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Mon Jul 24 14:55:09 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:55:09 -0500 Subject: HW: OFF: Ozrics interview Message-ID: > And according to Gong's > page, they're supposed to be here in the States during the bulk of September that's true. They just tried to book a September show at First Avenue in Minneapolis, however they may want more money than the club will pay. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jul 24 18:11:39 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:11:39 +0100 Subject: HW:Nik's reunion Band Message-ID: Not with me - I have it too, but someone else in this group wanted one, I seem to recall. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "linuxchaos" To: Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 9:15 PM Subject: Re: HW:Nik's reunion Band > I have Red Shift, we can do a deal. > > Ben > > ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > > > 'Red Shift' is currently out of print and not likely to be back in a hurry > > so if ypu see one anywhere, grab it. > > Public services announcement from > > Andy Garibaldi. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 3:01 AM > > Subject: HW:Nik's reunion Band > > > > > I noticed that there was mean't to be a gig in Birkenhead on july 15th, > > did > > > anyone go ? > > > > > > also has anyone actually got a copy of Harvey's red shift ? > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Marty From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jul 24 22:32:18 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:32:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: Starwood Fest... In-Reply-To: <200007142201.SAA29719@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Fri, Jul 14, 2000 at 04:56:57PM -0400 Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 14, 2000 at 04:56:57PM -0400, K Henderson wrote: > At Brushwood (the site of SD'97) next week, I see they're having their > 'pagan' festival, July 18-23. And a fine festival it was! Lots of music, drumming, dancing, workshops, partying, naked people, pagans, wiccans, vendors, flakes. We think the drumming stopped once -- for about three minutes, at 8:30 one morning. I drummed, I danced, I danced, I drummed, I attended workshops ... occasionally I even slept. On Saturday night, the biggest bonfire I've ever seen -- indeed, the biggest fire of any sort that nobody was madly trying to put out while I watched! The pyre was 20 paces across (very roughly; my brother was across the field from it when he paced it out), and approaching 20 feet high; it took them about three days to build the thing. We figured the flames reached 70-80 feet. For those of you who remember the huge fires at SD'97 ... well, they had one like that every night. This one put those little fires to shame! Defining moment: Rainy Friday morning. I'm told it was a couple of kids who started singing that "rain, rain go away" thing, but by the time I came into hearing range, the adults had picked it up: the chanting was in two-part (or more) harmony, and accompanied by drums, all of it coming from at least three or four campsites. I'm told there was a sun dance happening down in the Roundhouse too (that's the fire circle that SD'97 attendees know). In retrospect, exactly what I should have expected from this crowd :-) It's only one data point, but the rain did in fact go away :-) Einstein's Secret Orchestra will perform > Wednesday and Thursday nights (the latter with the Church of Subgenius > folks) and then Speaker\Cranker will play Friday night. The only one of these I saw was the Wednesday ESO set. Excellent! I'm looking forward to seeing them again at SD2K. My only complaint is that there should have been more violin in the mix. The band also hosted a space-rock jam on Tuesday afternoon, as one of the workshops. Everyone, regardless of musical ability or lack of same, was invited to bring along their instruments (specifically including, if I recall, their strange homebuilt ones) and join in. It was a bit weird, with the band playing standard electric gear and everyone else playing tribal drums, shakers, gongs, Tibetan bells, and the like, but it was cool anyway, and a lot of fun. I had a great time trying out my new djembe, and this weird Chinese-sounding one-stringed thing I picked up for $25 because I figured that since it was a spaerock jam, I neeeeded *something* I could pitch-bend. Especially poignant for me is that it was held on the SD'97 stage! I hadn't been to Brushwood since then, and dancing at the fire Monday night (before I'd seen the workshop schedule), I'd been thinking that at some point I was going to have to go off to the stage area and do some kind of private ritual to remember the first Strange Daze, the HW/Nik reunion, and all. This jam was far better than anything I could have devised! There was a little blonde girl, maybe 8 or 9, wearing a tiger-striped top and leopard-print skirt, and blue dye halfway rinsed out of her hair, playing violin alongside the band's regular violin player. This kid was great! She could drone with the best of 'em, and was playing some interesting stuff at other times. She seemed equally at home on a regular instrument and a five-string bodiless Chapman-stick-esque electric violin. I took her for the daughter of one of the band members, a la Born to Go/Radio Calvert, so I was a little disappointed that she wasn't on stage Wednesday night for ESO's set. But when I asked one of the band members whose kid she was, he didn't know -- they'd only met her at the festival. "She's kind of adopted us, because we have violins". On Saturday, when I ran across her again, I complimented her on her playing. She looked blank at first (Tuesday was ancient history, I guess), but once she figured out what I was talking about, she brightened up and thanked me. Then she exclaimed, "Oh, you just reminded me. I gotta go! Thanks!", and as she tore off to the tent across the way, she was yelling, "Hey guys, come on! We have to go fiddle!" This one's going to be dynamite in about ten years... All in all, a fine time! I'm already looking forward to next year. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / We place no reliance On virgin or pigeon; Our Method is Science, Our Aim is Religion. - Aleister Crowley From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Tue Jul 25 05:38:24 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:38:24 +0100 Subject: HW/Stoner Rock Message-ID: There's a full page article in Rolling Stone on the 'new stoner rock'. Featurettes on QOTSA, Monster Magnet, High On Fire (ex Sleep). Fu Manchu, Nebula and Orange Goblin. Essential albums are Sabbath - MOR, Hawkwind - SR, The Obsessed - The Church Within, Trouble - Psalm 9, Kyuss - Blues For The Red Sun. the obligatory Dave Wyndorf quote - "I've had my head between the speakers of a Hawkwind record and seen God" Stuart NP The Rabbits Hat - Outsiders http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Jul 25 04:24:01 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:24:01 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda Message-ID: Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but... ...what is the world coming to when Silver Machine is being used to advertise Mazda cars? :-0 Cheers, Rich. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue Jul 25 06:34:29 2000 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:34:29 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:24:01 BST." <015801bff611$b0dc0770$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk> Message-ID: > Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but... > > ...what is the world coming to when Silver Machine is being used to > advertise Mazda cars? > > :-0 Yeah I saw that last night. Couldn't believe it! Mind you, I drive a mazda MX-5 so its more a feeling of affirmation. :) Tim From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jul 25 07:18:48 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:18:48 EDT Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda Message-ID: In a message dated 7/25/00 5:54:13 AM, rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM writes: << ...what is the world coming to when Silver Machine is being used to advertise Mazda cars? >> ======= well, when the ramones' "blitzkrieg bop" promoted budweiser, and the stooges' "search and destroy" promoted the [?!] US olympic team.....methinks the world had already been there/done that....-_- be neato to see the ad in the states, though... "<>" From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Jul 25 06:42:06 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:42:06 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda Message-ID: Mind you, I suppose it might get a re-release on the back of it. Hadn't thought of that... Hmm... :-) Cheers, R. > > Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but... > > > > ...what is the world coming to when Silver Machine is being used to > > advertise Mazda cars? > > > > :-0 > > Yeah I saw that last night. Couldn't believe it! > > Mind you, I drive a mazda MX-5 so its more a feeling of affirmation. :) > > > Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Jul 25 07:25:58 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:25:58 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda Message-ID: True enough. And Yellow Pages over here used Ramones "Baby I Love You". (And there was an awful 12" Dance/Techno mix of Ace Of Spades used for something or other IIRC. Cheers, R. > > ...what is the world coming to when Silver Machine is being used to > > advertise Mazda cars? > > >> > ======= > well, when the ramones' "blitzkrieg bop" promoted budweiser, and the stooges' > "search and destroy" promoted the [?!] US olympic team.....methinks the world > had already been there/done that....-_- > > be neato to see the ad in the states, though... > > "<>" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jul 25 09:06:48 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:06:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: New radio shows at AI Message-ID: Hi Folks... Jerry's been busy 'ripping' and so he has two new 'radio shows' up on a-i.com. Chuck R.'s on vacation (he's driving from Riverside, CA to the east coast!), so this will have to do for the next three weeks or so. :) Grakkl (FAA) Aural Innovations SpaceRock Radio has just uploaded TWO NEW SHOWS in streaming RealAudio!!! (You can also download them if you prefer.) Aural Innovations is an online web-zine covering all forms of spacerock, psychedelia, electronica, and freaked out jazz. Our web site is LOADED with reviews, interviews, and articles. The playlist for Radio Show #4 includes: Ax Genrich - ?Come Back? (from Wave Cut) Circle - ?Kartano? (from Pori) Dr. Brown - ?Camel? (from Inside) Grass Harp - ?Thursday Afternoon? (from Freakquency) Krom Lek - ?Atom Splicer? and ?It Only Takes? (from Inspirational Floatation Compilation) The Great Imperial Yo Yo - ?Undergrowth? (from Chicken Island) Go Evol Shiki! - ?Halloween In December? (from Curious Statistical Anomoly) Trial Balloon - ?Cry Babies? (from Ice) Yeti - ?Interstellar Biplane? (from Things To Come...) In The Summer Of The Mushroom Honey - ?I Am Aware Of My Heart? Radio Show #5 is an Ambient/Electronica special. The playlist is: Nomuzic - ?Earthwave? (from Celestial Reasonings) Spirits Burning - ?Smart Messages In The Sand? (from New Worlds By Design) Spaceship Eyes - ?Satori? (from Kamarupa) Djam Karet - ?Angels Without Wings? (from Suspension & Displacement) Music From The Future - ?Twice? (from Explicit Electronica) Mark Hewins - ?Planets? (unreleased) Or?nj Climax - ?Hudshan? (from Lava) Paul Kollar - ?She Painted Her Face? (from Subtle Matter) Matt Borghi - ?West Wind? (from For Running Time) The Fireman - ?7am? (from The Fireman) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the SpaceRock Radio link to listen. From tclark at PETRONET.NET Tue Jul 25 11:11:21 2000 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:11:21 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda Message-ID: Let's hope that Hawkwind is getting royalties out of the deal. Richard Lockwood wrote: > Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but... > > ...what is the world coming to when Silver Machine is being used to > advertise Mazda cars? > > :-0 > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jul 25 11:22:43 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:22:43 EDT Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda Message-ID: In a message dated 7/25/00 11:13:39 AM, tclark at PETRONET.NET writes: << Let's hope that Hawkwind is getting royalties out of the deal. >> === more to the point, let's hope that robert calvert's surviving kin are getting royalties out of the deal.... "<>" From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Tue Jul 25 11:30:15 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:30:15 -0400 Subject: BOC/BRAIN/OFF: Meltzer magnet?! Message-ID: To scare your children or to buck the system, go 2 http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/ungodlyvision/rants/article7.htm It's a link-fest with all of what I could find by R. Meltzer (or Richard Meltzer) on the internet. To furher scare people, try http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/ungodlyvision/index.html Why? it's my (soon to be) webpage. comments, molotov cocktails and Newcastle Brown Ale gladly accepted. Jason From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jul 25 11:32:57 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:32:57 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda In-Reply-To: <397DAE18.A418240F@petronet.net> Message-ID: > Let's hope that Hawkwind is getting royalties out of the deal. I think that's the general idea...! -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Tue Jul 25 11:00:27 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:00:27 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Hawkwind's Harvey Bainbridge & The Traveing Outerspace Spectacular Message-ID: Hi all, I received some requests for this info, so I've decided to post it for all..These are the dates for Philadelphia and NYC.... Peace, MIke http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: SLOTERDIJK at webtv.net (SLOTERDIJK) Subject: Hawkwind's Harvey Bainbridge & The Traveing Outerspace Spectacular Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Size: 1926 URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jul 25 13:53:33 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:53:33 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda Message-ID: I detect the hand of Doug Smith - and, in the absence of speaking with him, I feel that this is just the start and that something big is in the works - let's only hope someone tells Dave and the rest of the crew.!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gilham" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind / Mazda > > Let's hope that Hawkwind is getting royalties out of the deal. > > I think that's the general idea...! > > -- Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Wed Jul 26 03:00:49 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:00:49 -0700 Subject: HW: NIK: JPEGS Message-ID: Can anyone forward this CD with pics of Nik Turner's Fantastic All Stars to him? I'd be keen for him to have copies. If so my phone number is: +44 (0) 20 7681 7430 Cheers Ben From nick at NETPHD.NET Tue Jul 25 19:32:12 2000 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:32:12 -0400 Subject: BOC: What's new??? In-Reply-To: <200007251528.LAA19186@mailgate.wizvax.net> Message-ID: Hi again, folks. I have been off the list for months now, thanks to a change in jobs. I'm wondering if I missed any pertinent BOC news, like a release date for the new album or something. Since I've been back on, I've noticed very little Cult stuff, so I'm assuming there's nothing new. To veer off-topic for a moment, I recently bought Dio's "Magica" and all I can say is. . . WOW!!! I love it!!! Okay, the 20-minute "story" at the end is one of the corniest things I've ever heard in my life, but the rest of the CD blows me away!!! Even "Challis",with its blatant rip-off of Nugent's "Cat Scratch Fever" riff, is an awesome song. My only complaint. . . not enough up-tempo stuff. --Nick From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Jul 25 21:19:46 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 21:19:46 -0400 Subject: BOC: Surgeons review Message-ID: Nick wrote: >Hi again, folks. I have been off the list for months >now, thanks to a change in jobs. Nice to see you back. >I'm wondering if I missed any pertinent BOC news, like >a release date for the new album or something. Since >I've been back on, I've noticed very little Cult stuff, >so I'm assuming there's nothing new. Well, I posted a "BRAIN" only review of the Brain Surgeons show in Buffalo, where they played Godzilla. I'll post the review again here in case anyone missed it who might be interested. The Brain Surgeons Mohawk Place Buffalo, NY July 18 Setlist (as I remember it): St. Vitus Dance (Deb guitar, David bass) Last Angry Woman (") Stones in My Passway (Deb guitar, David bass) A Kiss is a Promise (Deb bass, David guitar, Al mandolin/drums) Niagra Falls (Deb bass, David guitar) Cities on Flame (Deb guitar, David bass) On the Road (Again) (Deb bass, David guitar, Al drums/harmonica) Death Valley Nights (Deb bass, David guitar, Al mandolin) Dominance & Submission (Deb guitar, David bass) Name Your Monster (") Time Will Take Care of You (") Godzilla (") Astronomy (Deb bass, David guitar, Al mandolin, guest vocalist) The Red & The Black (Deb bass, David guitar) Encore: Biloxi (David bass, Al percussion) I left early from Rochester so I would be able to find Mohawk Place before sunset. So, I was the first person to arrive at the bar other than the bartender. I had a beer and we bemoaned that live bands are being replaced everywhere by DJs who attract a younger crowd. Mohawk Place has a band every night. And the bartender was genuinely excited that the Surgeons were returing to rock the place after a two year hiatus. As people began to wander in, I met Mark and Rich from the BOC BB and a couple of Buffalo fans. Just about everyone at the gig was either an established Surgeons fan, or a hardcore BOC fan. We had no idea what the Surgeons would sound like as a 3-piece. But I definately wasn't expecting them to attempt St. Vitus dance without the extra guitar muscle. The result was sometimes powerful, a little sloppy but foot-tapping, and it was great just to hear the band going for it. Deb played guitar on most of the songs and did a good job. She knew the parts, but didn't solo much. At times, the complexity of the parts she played sapped the power and attitude out of her singing. And that's what I saw as the only major drawback of the new lineup. Another tune that surprised me was A Kiss is a Promise. If only because Pete's solo just seemed perfect for it. Well, David is a very talented guitar player. He invented a new solo that fit just as well, but had a completely different feel to the original. More bouncy. Rhythmic, but with some flying fingers too. I wondered what the Surgeons would have been like if Peter, Billy, and David were all on guitar. But I was enjoying the now too much to think about it for long. Niagra Falls was dedicated to Helen Wheels and the people of Buffalo and it was a tight performance. The harmonies were beautiful. It sounded like a celebration. On the Road (Again), one of my favorite tunes from Piece of Work, was also a favorte of the crowd by the time the song was finished. Al played drums and harmonica simultaneously, and David's solo was a jaw-dropping variation of the original sax solo. Most of the BOC covers were decent, but sorely lacked the extra "twiddley." On Death Valley Nights I missed the drumming. For Astronomy, Al called up the singer of a local band who apparently had done the honors at the last Mohawk Place gig as well. I couldn't appreciate his vocal style. Too "howling" for me. But it was still a lot of fun to hear the song in a new way. Godzilla, though, was a special treat and it was amazing. It was the first time I had heard Al drum on Godzilla live, and it must have sounded just like the old days. Or at least it looked like it. He wore an oversized lizard mask and drummed to a strobe light. Red & the Black was also a great version, mostly because of David's scorching guitar work, and the fact that Al sang the whole thing solo, which made him look as if he were a crazy man talking to himself. "It's alright. It's all-RIGHT." It may seem strange that they ended the show with Biloxi, but it worked beautifuly. Deb gave her best singing performance of the night because she was unencumbered by an instrument. And Dave and Al's backing vocals were just like on the record. Dave flubbed his bass line a little, but it just added to the fun we were having. Even with only three people playing songs meant for five, the Surgeons were able to blast the rafters and get everyone anxiously awaiting their next trip to town. Tourdates can be found at http://www.cellsum.com/ Brian ----- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com http://www.bhalligan.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Wed Jul 26 08:00:53 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 05:00:53 -0700 Subject: HW: TEST BEN&HUW Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ben&huw.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 25236 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Jul 26 04:03:56 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:03:56 +0100 Subject: HW: TEST BEN&HUW Message-ID: Ooh dear. There's a man who's not looking on tip-top form... :-) R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "linuxchaos" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 1:00 PM Subject: HW: TEST BEN&HUW > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Wed Jul 26 13:27:52 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:27:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Here's one for the anti Windows brigade Message-ID: Pop along to http://jansfreeware.com and get a copy of the stripped down browser Act. I've been using it for about a week now, and it's an absolute peach if you like quick loading times and avoid Flash sites like the plague. Stuart NP Levon Helm & The RCO All Stars http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Wed Jul 26 23:23:39 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:23:39 -0700 Subject: HW: TEST BEN&HUW Message-ID: haha Not sure which of us you mean! Probably me! I've got some great pics of Huw playing etc, his new (ish) Chain Reaction album is (in my opinion) his best yet. Should be on Pebble Mill. (If it still exists). Cheers Ben Richard Lockwood wrote: > Ooh dear. There's a man who's not looking on tip-top form... > > :-) > > R. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "linuxchaos" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 1:00 PM > Subject: HW: TEST BEN&HUW > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Wed Jul 26 17:51:47 2000 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:51:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Mazda Message-ID: Hey! Anyone noticed the new Mazda adverts???? Silver machine sound track! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Jul 26 18:15:28 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:15:28 -0700 Subject: HW: Mazda Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:51:47 +0100, XXX wrote: >Hey! >Anyone noticed the new Mazda adverts???? >Silver machine sound track! They sure did (those in the UK, anyway), but they forgot to put 'HW' in the message title! see: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0007d&L=boc-l&F=&S=&P=3485 I hope it does as much for Hawkwind's career as the VW(?) ad is currently doing for Nick Drake's (except that, fortunately, Hawkwind are still very much alive!). Any chance of getting the ad to run in the US? :^) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Jul 26 18:42:54 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:42:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Mazda Message-ID: Errrr........seems odd....you asking us? Andy G.(CDS) ----- Original Message ----- From: XXX To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 10:51 PM Subject: HW: Mazda Hey! Anyone noticed the new Mazda adverts???? Silver machine sound track! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Wed Jul 26 19:16:29 2000 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:16:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Mazda In-Reply-To: <008401bff752$d6fac1c0$2a4595c1@s8d3c4> Message-ID: I've not seen it,but can someone who has, enlighten me. Is the soundtrack...THE ORIGINAL (as played by HW) with Lemmys vocals? Or is it an adaptation of the original? Are there any sung vocals on it at all? Does it dominate the ad or is it just slotted in somewhere? Regards Mel (without a telly). From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 26 20:52:20 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 01:52:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Mazda In-Reply-To: Melvyn Vincent's message of Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:16:29 +0100 Message-ID: Melvyn Vincent writes: > I've not seen it,but can someone who has, enlighten me. > Is the soundtrack...THE ORIGINAL (as played by HW) with Lemmys vocals? ObNiKPit: Didn't the original have Bob's vocals? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 26 21:00:40 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 02:00:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Stralian TV and Bronze Promo video 1980: FAO Bernhard In-Reply-To: William Duffy's message of Tue, 18 Jul 2000 00:27:18 +0800 Message-ID: William Duffy writes: > Hi all > > Just thought I'd remind everyone in Australia (Not that they should need > reminding!) that Thursday is the day Hawkwind make their appearance on > Studio 22 on ABC-TV. > For those not familiar with the show, It's usually a 30 minute performance > by the featured band, & may even have some interviews? Just seen this, Pretty good, though maybe overusing the echo effect. Also in the package: Bronze promo video from 1980: Who's Gonna Win the War? World of Tiers Levitation This is in a (TV?) studio with Dave wearing tons of black face paint. I thought I'd seen it before though. Checking the 1979-89 video that Dave sent out eons ago, I noticed that World of Tiers was listed. That's the same version. My tape also has levitation, but not icluded in the tracklist. There's also a note from Dave saying "Sorry it's late - extra track included by way of apology". So was levitation the extra track, or should I do more checking? Who's Gonna Win the War definitely isn't on that tape, or on any other that I can find, though I really could swear I've seen that piece of video before (though without the effects). Does anyone know if it's a TV studio and which? Bernhard? You're the expert on video stuff? FoFP From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jul 26 22:44:37 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:44:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: Cranium Music Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just visited the Cranium site (www.cranium.co.nz), and discovered that Richard has now gone to 'Free Shipping on All Orders'. Cool!!! Ordering from the Southern Hemisphere always seemed like a bad move shipping-wise, but even before this, it was pretty reasonable. Now, though, Cranium is definitely the best place I know of to get a lot of cool space/psych stuff. Nobody seems to have Delerium releases over here much, and now I get 'em all from Richard. So, head on over and order up some stuff to help keep Richard in business. I know he's been saying that times are tough and he wonders how long he can stay afloat. He's got some especially great deals on a whole slew of great psych stuff, like Omnia Opera, Sons of Selina, Spacious Mind, Soma, Elektrum, On Trial, Unlimbo, IEM, etc. etc. etc. He's also got the two RCA HW albums for dirt cheap, if you don't already have 'em. And of course, he carries Circle CDs, and if you wanna hear this excellent Finnish space-kraut-industrial-ambient-psych band *before* they come to play here in the colonies in September (God willing), then here's a great chance. (The tune 'Kartano' is up on aural-innovations.com radio, so you can check that out first if you like.) That's my spiel... Grakkl (FAA) From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Thu Jul 27 02:44:38 2000 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:44:38 +1000 Subject: Stralian TV and Bronze Promo video 1980: FAO Bernhard Message-ID: Mike What's the line-up for the Levitation ? Wasn't the WGWTW done for German TV, so Maybe the World of Tiers & Levitation are from the Same show,but were left out of what went to air, just like Assassin's of Allah/Space etc and Brainstorm being left out of the Studio22 show that went to air. >From memory World of Tiers was with Brock,Bainbridge,Langton,Baker & Hayle miming to the Levitation album track, definitely lots of Blake synths, but no Blake. Btw :I listened to the Studio22 show in headphones today and its sounds really good , lots of swirly noises :-) Can anyone confirm that Freefall backing track is something from Interstellar Chaos ? and also has anyone noticed no Dave in Freefall ? regards Marty > -----Original Message----- > From: M Holmes [SMTP:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] > Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2000 11:01 am > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: Stralian TV and Bronze Promo video 1980: FAO Bernhard > > William Duffy writes: > > > Hi all > > > > Just thought I'd remind everyone in Australia (Not that they should need > > reminding!) that Thursday is the day Hawkwind make their appearance on > > Studio 22 on ABC-TV. > > For those not familiar with the show, It's usually a 30 minute > performance > > by the featured band, & may even have some interviews? > > Just seen this, Pretty good, though maybe overusing the echo effect. > > Also in the package: Bronze promo video from 1980: > > Who's Gonna Win the War? > World of Tiers > Levitation > > This is in a (TV?) studio with Dave wearing tons of black face paint. I > thought I'd seen it before though. Checking the 1979-89 video that Dave > sent out eons ago, I noticed that World of Tiers was listed. That's the > same version. My tape also has levitation, but not icluded in the > tracklist. There's also a note from Dave saying "Sorry it's late - extra > track included by way of apology". So was levitation the extra track, or > should I do more checking? > > Who's Gonna Win the War definitely isn't on that tape, or on any other > that I can find, though I really could swear I've seen that piece of > video before (though without the effects). Does anyone know if it's a TV > studio and which? > > Bernhard? You're the expert on video stuff? > > FoFP From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Thu Jul 27 06:59:00 2000 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:59:00 +0100 Subject: Mazda advert Message-ID: Any chance of someone grabbing the Mazda advert and putting it up in suitable (tiny window MPG or AVI) format somewhere on the web? Also, I just saw mention of Dave B's 79-89 video - I *think* I may have some of this already on a tape from Bernhard, but has anyone got a listing of its contents so that I can check? Cheers Steve Litchfield http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 27 07:27:51 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:27:51 +0100 Subject: Stralian TV and Bronze Promo video 1980: FAO Bernhard In-Reply-To: Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]'s message of Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:44:38 +1000 Message-ID: Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA] writes: > Mike > What's the line-up for the Levitation ? Brock, Bainbridge, Langton, Baker and someone who didn't look like Blake. I'd be able to tell Hale from style, but they were miming to the album tracks. > Wasn't the WGWTW done for German TV, so Maybe the World of Tiers & > Levitation are from the Same show, They are, and German TV does ring a bell. Did they mime to the Levitation tracks on that show? > but > were left out of what went to air, just like Assassin's of Allah/Space etc > and Brainstorm being left out of the Studio22 show that > went to air. Any chance of anyone blagging those tracks from folks at the studio? > >From memory World of Tiers was with Brock,Bainbridge,Langton,Baker & Hayle > miming to the Levitation album track, definitely > lots of Blake synths, but no Blake. Yep, that matches up. > Marty FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 27 07:30:28 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:30:28 +0100 Subject: Mazda advert In-Reply-To: Steve Litchfield's message of Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:59:00 +0100 Message-ID: Steve Litchfield writes: > Any chance of someone grabbing the Mazda advert and putting it up in > suitable (tiny window MPG or AVI) format somewhere on the web? > > Also, I just saw mention of Dave B's 79-89 video - I *think* I may have > some of this already on a tape from Bernhard, but has anyone got a listing > of its contents so that I can check? 1990 Video - Hawkwind 1979-1989 Tracklist from the back of the tape: (Mine starts with Levitation though) World of Tiers 80 Lighthouse 79 Shot Down in the Night 81 Brainstorm 81 Silver Machine 82 Masters of the Universe 82 Choose Your Masks 82 Solitary Mind Games 82 waiting for Tomorrow 82 Masters of the Universe 83 Coded Languages 83 Ghost Attack (Jam) 83 Sonic Attack 83 Psi Power 84 Choose Your Masks 85 Elric Battle Sequence 85 Masters of the Universe 86 Assault and Battery 86 Assassins of Allah 86 Magnu 86 Angels of Death 86 Lost Chronicles 86 Needle Gun 86 Dream Worker 86 Assault and Battery 89 Golden Void 89 Treadmill 89 Levitation 89 Damnation Alley 89 Needle Gun 89 Brainstorm 89 Angels of Death 89 From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jul 27 08:36:14 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:36:14 +0100 Subject: Mazda advert In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You'd think (if they had their act together) it'd be on Mazda UK's website... (but it's not, at least not yet anyway). -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Steve Litchfield > Sent: 27 July 2000 11:59 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Mazda advert > > > Any chance of someone grabbing the Mazda advert and putting it up in > suitable (tiny window MPG or AVI) format somewhere on the web? > > Also, I just saw mention of Dave B's 79-89 video - I *think* I may have > some of this already on a tape from Bernhard, but has anyone got a listing > of its contents so that I can check? > > Cheers > Steve Litchfield > http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jul 27 09:57:06 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:57:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: More Circle Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just got some info from Andee at Aquarius Records/tUMULt in San Francisco about Circle's activities. They're still working on the Sept.-Oct. tour, and he is planning to have them play west coast dates in addition to those listed on the SAS page (www.charnel.com/subarachnoid/news.html). One date for sure is the Aquarius Records 30th anniversary party on Oct. 7th., also with Village of Savoonga (from Germany)....anybody know these guys? (I wonder if Terrastock 4 on Oct. 3-5 in Seattle is another? As of now, they're not listed.) So it looks promising that they'll actually come and play a large part of the country. Also, Andee's label tUMULt is in the process of re-releasing Andexelt as I mentioned before...the bonus track will be the one from the Metazoon compilation (that I mentioned that Archie at www.eurock.com is offering for $10). But Circle has already recorded new stuff for a brand new release on tUMULt, that Andee indicates has more vocals and flute than other recent stuff. Sounds interesting. That's all for now....Grakkl (FAA) From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Thu Jul 27 12:05:03 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:05:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Yuri Gagarin CD offer Message-ID: I've just taken a batch of new Yuri Gagarin CDs in as part of a trade. They're all new, issued on the Decal label, CAT no CD Charly 40. If you want one, e-mail me privately ?6 / $8 inc worldwide shipping, or will trade. Stuart http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Jul 27 13:23:49 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:23:49 +0200 Subject: HW: Stralian TV and Bronze Promo video 1980: FAO Bernhard In-Reply-To: <200007270100.CAA19381@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi there At 02:00 27.07.2000 +0100, you wrote: >Also in the package: Bronze promo video from 1980: > >Who's Gonna Win the War? >World of Tiers >Levitation > >This is in a (TV?) studio with Dave wearing tons of black face paint. I >thought I'd seen it before though. Checking the 1979-89 video that Dave >sent out eons ago, I noticed that World of Tiers was listed. That's the >same version. My tape also has levitation, but not icluded in the >tracklist. There's also a note from Dave saying "Sorry it's late - extra >track included by way of apology". So was levitation the extra track, or >should I do more checking? > >Who's Gonna Win the War definitely isn't on that tape, or on any other >that I can find, though I really could swear I've seen that piece of >video before (though without the effects). Does anyone know if it's a TV >studio and which? > >Bernhard? You're the expert on video stuff? Still waiting from my copy from OZ Will try to find out where it is from... Bernhard From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Thu Jul 27 13:44:06 2000 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:44:06 -0400 Subject: OFF Spinal Tap (again) Message-ID: Seems they are re-releasing Spinal Tap to the theatres (as well as a new DVD). There is a website for downloading the new song "Back from the Dead" www.tapster.com (yep, that's 'tapster') BCNU From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Thu Jul 27 14:18:00 2000 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:18:00 +0100 Subject: HW: history Message-ID: I'm trying to track down the scanned in HW history by Brian Tawn. It was a DOC file, IIRC, which I printed out. I'd now like it again in computer form - any idea which HW web site it's on? I tried five or six of the biggest and couldn't spot it.... Steve From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Jul 27 14:10:14 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:10:14 -0700 Subject: OFF: More Circle Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:57:06 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >One date for sure is the Aquarius >Records 30th anniversary party on Oct. 7th., also with Village of Savoonga >(from Germany)....anybody know these guys? Yeah! Their first album is great (and came in a cool handmade spray-painted foldout sleeve), and the second one is really good, too. I'm looking forward to being able to see them. They do a fantastic job of combining "pop" and "space" influences in their music and are the kind of band that should appeal both to indierockers (into bands like Stereolab or Tortoise) as well as more "out-there" spacerockers. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From flossbac at NLCI.COM Thu Jul 27 14:23:12 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:23:12 -0500 Subject: HW: australian video (NTSC) Message-ID: So can I hit someone up for an NTSC copy of the recent australian TV appearance of the Hawks? John Majka flossbac at nlci.com http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Jul 27 15:12:01 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:12:01 -0700 Subject: HW: history Message-ID: Is this what you're looking for? ftp://ftp.pcmicro.com.au/pub/sonique/Anthology/ -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:18:00 +0100, Steve Litchfield wrote: >I'm trying to track down the scanned in HW history by Brian Tawn. It was a >DOC file, IIRC, which I printed out. I'd now like it again in computer >form - any idea which HW web site it's on? I tried five or six of the >biggest and couldn't spot it.... From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Thu Jul 27 17:16:11 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:16:11 -0500 Subject: HW webcast Message-ID: Just a reminder about the harvey webcast tonight. I just checked the site and they have skye klad listed at 12am, which is the time harvey will be on, so I'm not sure yet if they have everything up to date. Anyway tune in if you can, to all the shows in the 7th street entry tonight if you can. dan From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jul 28 07:22:11 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:52:11 +0930 Subject: HW: australian video (NTSC) Message-ID: hi I have a PAL copy but i intend to have it duplicated to ntsc soon as two other cats want a copy in the states - i'm assuming ntsc is the american version got any HW paraphinelia you can part with?? ----- Original Message ----- From: flossbac To: Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 3:53 AM Subject: HW: australian video (NTSC) > So can I hit someone up for an NTSC copy of the recent australian TV > appearance of the Hawks? > > John Majka > flossbac at nlci.com > http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac > > From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Fri Jul 28 08:53:00 2000 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:53:00 +0100 Subject: HW - 1990 video again Message-ID: >>1990 Video - Hawkwind 1979-1989 >>Tracklist from the back of the tape: >>(Mine starts with Levitation though) >> World of Tiers 80 >> Lighthouse 79 Do you know whether either of these first two clips include Simon King? TIA Steve Litchfield PS> I found that scanned in anthology history - it was on Sonique's site in Oz. 8-) [belatedly - thanks, Doug!] From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 28 09:13:50 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:13:50 +0100 Subject: HW - 1990 video again In-Reply-To: Steve Litchfield's message of Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:53:00 +0100 Message-ID: Steve Litchfield writes: > >>1990 Video - Hawkwind 1979-1989 > >>Tracklist from the back of the tape: > >>(Mine starts with Levitation though) > >> World of Tiers 80 > >> Lighthouse 79 > > Do you know whether either of these first two clips include Simon King? World of Tiers does I think. Not sure about Lighthouse. Blake may have played it solo. FoFP From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Fri Jul 28 12:00:52 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:00:52 -0400 Subject: In store meeting with Harvey 8/6 Message-ID: Hello, all..I have another bit of news for you regarding the August 6th Philadelphia show at The Khyber. (Traveling Outerspace Spectacular, featuring Harvey Bainbridge) I have arranged an in store appearance for Harvey at A.K.A. Music, 7 N. 2nd street, Philadelphia PA (215) 922-3828 Tomorrow I will be able to tell you all the exact time, however I can say, that I will be trying for a time slot between 4-5PM... I will announce this info as soon as it is available, as I will be personally meeting with the store owner tomorrow. I encourage you to come to this in store if you are available early enough, as it will be a great opportunity to meet and greet before the evening gig. The store has alot of Hawkwind titles, as well as tons of other psychedelic/space music etc. Once again, I will inform you all of the exact time when I have that information. We hope that you will come by...."Keep the spirit alive"!!! Peace, MIke Burro (Sloterdijk) http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Fri Jul 28 13:25:03 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:25:03 -0500 Subject: HW: Harvey show Message-ID: Thought I'd post a bit about the show last night. Got to the club at 4:30 to wait for Harvey and crew to show up. At about 4:45pm two guys walk up in HW tees, well of course I talk to them and it turns out one of them is marc(k?) spearhawk. Of course I remember the story about dave selling his guitar to him back in the 70's, turns out he lives in minneapolis now, weird. Harvey and crew arrive shortly after, and we all start loading in and setting up which takes about 3 hours. I take everybody out to eat then. The first restaurant we're asked to leave as Jim Lascko doesn't have any sleeves on his HW tshirt, we all get a kick out of that, the next restaurant was probably better anyway. We get back and Jim and brothers start running lights for the other bands(who all did a great job!). Harvey got on at 12:15am and played until 1:30am, a few of his hw numbers(freefall comes to mind) and a lot of trancey ambient stuff. Harvey seemed to really enjoy himself the whole night. Harvey had a few cds for sale, alman mulo band "orisha", no red shift. Harvey said he is trying to get Red Shift released again through Voiceprint. Of course I asked Harvey about reunion gigs, he confirmed things are quite disorganized there. At 3:30am I dropped everybody off and said good-bye, it got to be a long day. From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Fri Jul 28 13:14:09 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:14:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: Marillion Message-ID: AN EVENING OF GENIUS 8 August 2000 Dingwalls Middle Yard Camden Lock Chalk Farm Road London NW1 8AB Featuring: Dave Gregory (XTC) Richard Barbieri (Porcupine Tree/Japan) h Jingles Aziz Ibrahim (Ian Brown/Stone Roses) Mike Wison (Texas) Tickets available for GBP 15.00 (booking fees may apply): Dingwalls - +44 (0)207 267 1999 Ticket Web - http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/user/?region=uk&query?tail&eventP21 Ticket Master - +44 (0)20 7316 4709 Stargreen - +44 (0)20 7734 8932 http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Fri Jul 28 13:32:03 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:32:03 +0200 Subject: HW: Stralian TV and Bronze Promo video 1980: FAO Bernhard Message-ID: Hi folks >Also in the package: Bronze promo video from 1980: >Who's Gonna Win the War? >World of Tiers >Levitation >Who's Gonna Win the War definitely isn't on that tape, or on any other >that I can find, though I really could swear I've seen that piece of >video before (though without the effects). Does anyone know if it's a TV >studio and which? > >Bernhard? You're the expert on video stuff? All 3 tracks are definately from the same set. But unfortunately it was a playback performance. The musicians (Brock, Bainbridge, Baker, Langton, Blake) just moving lips to the original songs from the LEVITATION album I am not sure where this set was recorded. But I suppose it was after (or before ?) a "real" gig between 10.10.1980 - 17.10.1980 The OZ Studio22 gig (from the video) is the best HAWKWIND concert I've heard for years!!! Real true SPACEROCK!!! Without punkish elements. cheers Bernhard From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jul 28 14:12:20 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:12:20 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda Message-ID: >I detect the hand of Doug Smith - and, in the absence of speaking with him, >I feel that this is just the start and that something big is in the works - >let's only hope someone tells Dave and the rest of the crew.!!!!!! Speaking of whom, has anyone else noticed that the recent Castle Remasters are copyrighted Doug Smith rather than Hawkwind? Seems somewhat odd to me... Nick From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jul 28 14:27:16 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:27:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Stralian TV and Bronze Promo video 1980: FAO Bernhard Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernhard Pospiech To: Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 6:32 PM Subject: Re: HW: Stralian TV and Bronze Promo video 1980: FAO Bernhard > The OZ Studio22 gig (from the video) is the best HAWKWIND concert I've > heard for years!!! Real true SPACEROCK!!! Without punkish elements. Yeah, I'd agree with this to a large degree. Didn't like the "echo" vocals from Jerry, but the version of Freefall is great! Ian From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Jul 28 14:30:45 2000 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:30:45 -0500 Subject: harvey show in chicago? Message-ID: Hey folks, I'm getting back into town tomorrow afternoon (...and thanks, Doug, for the trip to Amoeba.) Any local (chicago area) bocl'ers going to show in Lansing, IL? Anyone know what time the show starts? Thanks, Arin (trying to figure out if I'll be back in time....) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sat Jul 29 00:32:49 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:32:49 -0700 Subject: HW: Red Shift & HW Vinyl Message-ID: Items for Swap/Sale Silver Machine / Psy Warlords 7" 10th Anniversary Pic Disc Bob Calvert Hype Vinyl LP (Never Played). Hawkwind Friends & Relations Twice Upon A Time Vinyl LP Hawklords 25 Years On Vinyl LP Needlegun 12" Pic Sleeve Single >RE: has anyone actually got a copy of Harvey's red shift ? >regards >Marty Yes, what can you swap? cheers Ben From flossbac at NLCI.COM Fri Jul 28 18:14:58 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:14:58 -0500 Subject: harvey show in chicago? Message-ID: I'll be going to the Harvey show in Lansing IL tomorrow night...I hope to see you folks there! For easy recognition, I'll be wearing a T-shirt with the cover of Can's "Ege Bamyasi" album on it. I hope to see some of you there. John Majka flossbac at nlci.com http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac/hawkwind.html > Hey folks, > > I'm getting back into town tomorrow afternoon (...and thanks, Doug, > for the trip to Amoeba.) Any local (chicago area) bocl'ers > going to show in Lansing, IL? Anyone know what time the show starts? > > Thanks, > > Arin > (trying to figure out if I'll be back in time....) > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jul 28 18:26:46 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 23:26:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Yst..... etc In-Reply-To: <200007241041.LAA10171@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, M Holmes wrote: > J D writes: > > > Nik was talking very positively about the Ritual re-union gig, he = > > specifically mentioned Dave & Lemmy, although Simon K is extremely = > > unlikely. > > I for one, would be more than happy to see Terry there, as Simon's = > > replacement. > > Seconded! There's no doubt that the man is a Hawkwind drummer. Though currently playing in a pub band called The Jimi Hendrix Experience, if alt.music.planet-gong is to be believed. They are apparently really good, but the reviewer was going "F***! It's Terry Ollis!" a lot so he may not have been too critical. Notour dates I'm afraid... Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jul 28 19:15:44 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:15:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Yst..... etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Seconded! There's no doubt that the man is a Hawkwind drummer. > > Though currently playing in a pub band called The Jimi Hendrix > Experience, if alt.music.planet-gong is to be believed. According to Nik, Terry's had various gigs in jazz and blues bands over the years, and most recently a Jimi tribute band called Little Wing. I thought he was great in Nik's band, exactly right for the material. And a really nice bloke too! -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat Jul 29 06:34:42 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:34:42 +0200 Subject: HW:Live From The Darkside Message-ID: Hello all, Just bought the Hawkwind CD "Live From The Darkside". As we all thought it's "Yuri Gagarin" again. It's also marked as:"Year 2000:Codename Hawkwind vol II" Haven't heard it yet,so can't tell if it's remastered. BUT: it has a 3D Animated Cover Movie Don't ask me what that is,as I tried to open it and can't figure out how.Can anyone help? 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URL: From Hawkfan at ZAROZINIA.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Jul 29 07:59:59 2000 From: Hawkfan at ZAROZINIA.DEMON.CO.UK (David Holden) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:59:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Stralian TV and Bronze Promo video 1980: FAO Bernhard In-Reply-To: <200007270100.CAA19381@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <200007270100.CAA19381 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >William Duffy writes: > >> Hi all >> >> Just thought I'd remind everyone in Australia (Not that they should need >> reminding!) that Thursday is the day Hawkwind make their appearance on >> Studio 22 on ABC-TV. >> For those not familiar with the show, It's usually a 30 minute performance >> by the featured band, & may even have some interviews? > >Just seen this, Pretty good, though maybe overusing the echo effect. > >Also in the package: Bronze promo video from 1980: > >Who's Gonna Win the War? >World of Tiers >Levitation > >This is in a (TV?) studio with Dave wearing tons of black face paint. I >thought I'd seen it before though. Checking the 1979-89 video that Dave >sent out eons ago, I noticed that World of Tiers was listed. That's the >same version. My tape also has levitation, but not icluded in the >tracklist. There's also a note from Dave saying "Sorry it's late - extra >track included by way of apology". So was levitation the extra track, or >should I do more checking? > >Who's Gonna Win the War definitely isn't on that tape, or on any other >that I can find, though I really could swear I've seen that piece of >video before (though without the effects). Does anyone know if it's a TV >studio and which? > >Bernhard? You're the expert on video stuff? > >FoFP My version of the 1979-89 video has clapper board at beginning of World of Tiers saying EWART Television Title - Hawkwind VTR - K404 PART - World of Tiers TAKE - 1 hope this helps -- David Holden From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat Jul 29 09:10:50 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:10:50 +0200 Subject: HW:Live From The Darkside 3 Message-ID: Yep, It's the same old dodgy shit. It's not remastered,or I can't hear it. So again a "Yuri Gagarin" Sorry I scattered it into 3 e-mails best wishes filip hawknut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jul 29 15:54:16 2000 From: johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM (Johnny Firich) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:54:16 GMT Subject: BOC/BRAIN/OFF: On Your Feet Or... What? Message-ID: 1. This comes from a review of a Motorhead album, which I stumbled on accidentally (I'm not a Motorhead fan): "But some of the versions may leave a rather weird taste in your mouth. I, for one, have always loved the controlled evil of "Orgasmatron," but the song just doesn't have the same kind of antipated terror live. Likewise, "On Your Feet Or On Your Knees" and "Metropolis" (which I have yet to hear translated well on the stage) fall a bit flat." What _is_ all this? From what I know, OYFOOYK is, of course, a B?C album, and Metropolis is a great Dream Theater tune which they recently "developed" (=stretched) to a length of a concept album. 2. Likewise accidentally, I noticed that, on the Black Sabbath Vol.4 album, there's a song called "St. Vitus dance". Is it the same song as on "Box of hammers", by tBS? There (on BoH), it says that it was written by Bouchard, Frost, and Meltzer, but it doesn't say when?! I think the Sabbath album was released in 1975 or so. Who _was_ St. Vitus, anyway? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jul 29 15:55:08 2000 From: johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM (Johnny Firich) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:55:08 GMT Subject: OFF: Napster copyright issue - new turn Message-ID: On the CNN business news (!) a couple of days ago, the interviewee was a lawyer representing major record labels like Warner, Sony etc. in the lawsuit against Napster. Basically, his argument was that Napster should be shut down NOT because it represents a threat to the present market, but because it represents a threat to the development of potential, legitimate online market. Everyone seems to think that the record companies' motive for the lawsuit was the first reason. They don't consider Napster a threat to the present market at all!!! Comments anyone? Lars? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Jul 29 20:19:57 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:19:57 +0100 Subject: BOC/BRAIN/OFF: On Your Feet Or... What? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > 1. This comes from a review of a Motorhead album, which I stumbled on > accidentally (I'm not a Motorhead fan): > > "But some of the versions may leave a rather weird taste in your mouth. I, > for one, have always loved the controlled evil of "Orgasmatron," but the > song just doesn't have the same kind of antipated terror live. > Likewise, "On > Your Feet Or On Your Knees" and "Metropolis" (which I have yet to hear > translated well on the stage) fall a bit flat." > > What _is_ all this? From what I know, OYFOOYK is, of course, a B?C album, > and Metropolis is a great Dream Theater tune which they recently > "developed" > (=stretched) to a length of a concept album. Motorhead did a song called "On Your Feet" etc, on the SACRIFICE album from 1996 or so. No doubt a nod to BOC, as is the umlaut in the logo. "Metropolis" is the name of a song on OVERKILL, from 1978. I expect there's lots of songs with the same name - e.g., Amon Duul II did one on MADE IN GERMANY in 1975. No connection at all! > > > 2. Likewise accidentally, I noticed that, on the Black Sabbath > Vol.4 album, > there's a song called "St. Vitus dance". Is it the same song as on "Box of > hammers", by tBS? There (on BoH), it says that it was written by Bouchard, > Frost, and Meltzer, but it doesn't say when?! I think the Sabbath > album was > released in 1975 or so. Who _was_ St. Vitus, anyway? > No connection between the Sabs and tBS tunes. "St Vitus' dance" is a sort of nervous condition like epilepsy, which no doubt has a more proper medical name these days. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From novadrive at HOME.COM Sat Jul 29 22:26:29 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:26:29 -0700 Subject: HW: (kind of) SD2K Message-ID: Hello all in the Cleveland area---- I'll be flying in Thursday the 10th, since I couldn't get a flight that would get me there in time for the start on Friday. Could someone recommend a reasonable hotel somewhere between Cleveland and Nelson Ledges for Thursday night? Kevin Sommers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sun Jul 30 00:34:02 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:34:02 -0400 Subject: Harvey Bainbridge to make in store appearance in Philadelphia Message-ID: Harvey Bainbridge will be at AKA Music, August 6th, between the hours of 4-5PM 7 North 2nd street, Philadelphia PA. This is exactly one block from the venue of that evening's concert. I was there today and they had literally about 40 Hawkwind titles, as well as alot of other ol stuff. The store is class A. Sloterdijk will also be in attendance, and will have special edition copies of their new release "Integration". We are hoping some of you who arrive in Philadelphia early will come to this appearance, as it is the perfect meet and greet, as well as a central place to hook up with other people. Basically everything you could want is on this one street ( 2nd street) , ( food, the gig, The khyber (215) 238-5888), AKA music etc..) Once again for complete details regarding the Philly and New York shows, you can click the Sloterdijk control URL below. For all other inquires and tourdates see www.strange-trips.com http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Sun Jul 30 00:56:15 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:56:15 EDT Subject: BOC/BRAIN/OFF: On Your Feet Or... What? Message-ID: In a message dated 7/29/00 8:19:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: << Motorhead did a song called "On Your Feet" etc, on the SACRIFICE album from 1996 or so. No doubt a nod to BOC, as is the umlaut in the logo. >> make that the BASTARDS album from 1993. oh, yeah--they also stole their sometime-motto 'everything louder than evrything else' from deep purple; an offhand remark made by ian gillan about adjusting their onstage sound before 'the mule' on MADE IN JAPAN. then there's 'R.A.M.O.N.E.S.' from 1916...;-) bobm From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sun Jul 30 07:36:21 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:36:21 +0200 Subject: OFF: test Message-ID: test, please ignore From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Sun Jul 30 09:46:04 2000 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David Greenhalgh) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:46:04 +0900 Subject: Mazda advert Message-ID: My SIlver Machine's a Toyota, does that mean I have to take the HW comp MD out of the changer? From SHLL at NOVO.DK Mon Jul 31 05:12:56 2000 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:12:56 +0200 Subject: OFF: Burnt Hippie Message-ID: Hej, Our web site is finally up. Please come visit and send us some comments. As for future releases, we hope to put out a live Mandra gora Lightshow Society limited vinyl release in the winter.. Maybe, another live On Trial record as well. We will see.. scott www.burnthippie.dk From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Mon Jul 31 17:38:11 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos.org.uk) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:38:11 -0700 Subject: HW: The Real Undisclosed Files In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000615215945.00972a60@mail.tricreations.com> Message-ID: Did anyone notice that at Strange Daze 98 (Garretsville) Capt. Rizz was wearing Masonic Regalia underneath his doctor's coat! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Brian Halligan Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 7:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: The Real Undisclosed Files >From: "Andrew A. Apold" >Thomas Guy wrote: > >Ben, didn't the Templars end up in Scotland? Didn't you realise that the > >Warrior LP cover is actually a Templar Knight atop Glen Coe >They were wiped out by the Stonecutters in a ruthless recruiting war in >the 1890s... They were supposed to be the guardians of the holy grail, rather have out coats thrut than reveal it's meaning. Well Adolf Hitler was after it as well, so for him th4e holy grail was the destruction of it, in fact the destruction of heaven & hell and freemasonry! Hitler was well versed in Jewish Mysticism and used this to justify the destruction of Christianity! Queen Elizabeth Windsor of Deliria claims that the holy grail is a wooden cup full of blood or something and not a new age of unblocked kabbalistic paths. From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Mon Jul 31 11:15:19 2000 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:15:19 -0400 Subject: Calvert; Lloyd-Langton Message-ID: Hi, folks: The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at . Meanwhile, here are a couple excerpts of interest for Hawkwind fans. Future releases from Voiceprint and associated labels Robert Calvert/Revenge Robert Calvert first started working with Hawkwind in 1970 as their resident aural space - age poet. He composed and sang his own songs, leaving the band after they exploded into the charts with Silver Machine. Two solo albums followed in 1974 and 1975, Captain Lockheed & The Starfighters and Lucky Leif & The Longships, which was produced by Brian Eno. By 1975 he rejoined Hawkwind as vocalist and lyricist, dominating the next two albums Astounding Sounds Amazing Music and Quark, Strangeness & Charm. By 1978,due to the arrival of punk rock and various litigations Hawkind split and Calvert concentrated on his writing. These four tracks were originally recorded as backing tracks and instrumentals by Pete Pavli in 1981. Pavli met Calvert through a mutual friend, Hawkind's Simon House. Calvert wrote completed lyrics and melodies for the tracks and the vocals were recorded in an afternoon on a Teac 4 track. In 1988, while preparing a new album and a tour with his band The Starfighters Robert died of a heart attack. The songs were never really finished and were meant as demos, however in 1991 the tapes were mixed and released via mail order as a limited edition of 200. Lloyd-Langton Group/Chain Reaction Hawkwind founder member and long standing lead guitarist Huw Lloyd Langton, reformed his band early last year with original drummer John Clark and Gerry Cunningham on bass. Huw shows his versatility as a rock based blues guitarist who is able to play slow haunting melodies just as easily as complex fast instrumentals. Positive reviews and features have appeared in Classic Rock and Wondrous Stories as well as selected regional papers. The track "Jealousy" was included on Classic Rock's cover mounted cd. Huw will be featured on the new Luther Grosvenor (Spooky Tooth, Widowmaker, Mott The Hoople), album as well as the debut release from Meads Of Asphodel. Hawkwind's reunion shows at Brixton Academy will include Huw in the line up along with Lemmy. These will be held in September. There is also a possibility of a Glastonbury appearance. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jul 31 11:53:22 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:53:22 +0100 Subject: Calvert; Lloyd-Langton In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.20000731151519.00961b20@gwis.com> Message-ID: In message <2.2.32.20000731151519.00961b20 at gwis.com>, Gary Davis writes >Hawkwind's reunion shows at Brixton Academy will include Huw in the line up >along with Lemmy. oh, good. When will this be happening then? -- Jon From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jul 31 11:07:30 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:07:30 -0400 Subject: HW: Re: Calvert; Lloyd-Langton Message-ID: Jon asked... >In message <2.2.32.20000731151519.00961b20 at gwis.com>, Gary Davis > writes >>Hawkwind's reunion shows at Brixton Academy will include Huw in the line up >>along with Lemmy. > >oh, good. >When will this be happening then? Well, the very next line said September, so there you go. I think it's an old writeup...note that it says 'Glastonbury' appearance....that's already past. If there were really a HW reunion planned for September, I'd think we'd heard about it by now. It looks like HW will be the first band to do a 32nd year reunion! :) >Hawkwind's reunion shows at Brixton Academy will include Huw in the line up >along with Lemmy. These will be held in September. There is also a >possibility of a Glastonbury appearance. Grakkl (FAA) From grodog at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Jul 31 13:49:13 2000 From: grodog at EARTHLINK.NET (Allan T. Grohe, Jr.) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:49:13 -0500 Subject: HW and OTHER: HW news? PTree releases? Message-ID: Hi all, I'm back from the dead, having unsubbed for awhile from my old iscladoc at idir.net account, and only today signed back on. What's the news on the Hawkwind front? Any possible gigs in the USA besides Strange Daze? While browsing through a retailer I deal with in Pittsburgh, PA (Paul Olszewski, at http://members.aol.com/paulsstore/), I ran across some new PTree releases, including a new CD called Lightbulb Sun and some singles presumably from it (Stranger By the Minute, Pure Narcotic, and 4 Chords that Made a Million). Any reactions to it yet from the list? Later! Allan. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan T. Grohe Jr. Visit the Dreaming City-- grodog at earthlink.net http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr I am gray. I stand between the candle, and the star. We are gray. We stand between the darkness, and the light. --- "And The Sky Full of Stars," _Babylon 5_ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jul 31 13:56:55 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:56:55 +0100 Subject: Calvert; Lloyd-Langton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > oh, good. > When will this be happening then? > -- > Jon Why? Are you going to make it this time? ;)) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jul 31 14:26:00 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:26:00 -0400 Subject: HW and OTHER: HW news? PTree releases? Message-ID: Hi, >I'm back from the dead, having unsubbed for awhile from my old >iscladoc at idir.net account, and only today signed back on. > >What's the news on the Hawkwind front? Only that it seems that the Nik/Huw/Tom Crimble/Terry Ollis lineup seems to be more active than the Brock/Richards/Tree/Chadwick. :) Star Nation (Richards/Chadwick/Steve Taylor/Steve Hayes/Rizz+?) was formed, recorded four songs on a very ltd. ed. CD-EP, and then already disbanded. They cancelled all their appearances on the Travelling Strange Daze tour and at SD'2K itself. Nobody knows why, or those that do aren't telling. >Any possible gigs in the USA besides Strange Daze? Where are you? If you're in Pittsburgh, you can jump in your car and drive three hours west to Little Bros. in Columbus, OH to see Harvey Bainbridge and Quarkspace tonight...prolly starts at 9ish. (Near the corner of 3rd Ave. and High Street halfway between downtown and the OSU campus area.) (Also if you're in Pgh, check out Daevid Allen's University of Errors at the Millvale Industrial Theater on Aug. 16th....www.mit.telerama.com for details) Harvey is playing with Sloterdijk in Philly this coming Sun. (I think), and then again with Slot. & Escapade at the Knitting Factory (?) in NYC Monday (I think). Is that all the shows prior to SD'2K? I think so. Pretty sad that that's all they could round up....but then, given that Star Nation bugged out, what can you do? >While browsing through a retailer I deal with in Pittsburgh, PA >(Paul Olszewski, at http://members.aol.com/paulsstore/), I ran across >some new PTree releases, including a new CD called Lightbulb Sun and >some singles presumably from it (Stranger By the Minute, Pure Narcotic, >and 4 Chords that Made a Million). Any reactions to it yet from the >list? Hmmmm...I just got it myself, after picking up the 4 Chords 3-track single (two non-album tracks) a few weeks back. I was reasonably encouraged by the 3 songs on the single, but the album is pretty bland I believe. Maybe it'll take awhile to recognize the merits in the music (I like Stupid Dream a lot more than I did last year, though I still think it has some serious problems). On Lightbulb Sun, it appears that SW has made a conscious effort to change his singing style, and IMHO it was a bad idea...it sounds forced and full of 'faux confidence'. And several songs have very nice parts here and there, but there are not many that are interesting throughout. I hope it's a low point in PT's career. The single is actually better. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Stranger by the Minute and Pure Narcotic are from Stupid Dream. From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 31 16:34:30 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:34:30 +0100 Subject: HW and OTHER: HW news? PTree releases? Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Allan T. Grohe, Jr. To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 31 July 2000 18:56 Subject: HW and OTHER: HW news? PTree releases? >Hi all, > >I'm back from the dead, having unsubbed for awhile from my old >iscladoc at idir.net account, and only today signed back on. I ran across >some new PTree releases, including a new CD called Lightbulb Sun and >some singles presumably from it (Stranger By the Minute, Pure Narcotic, >and 4 Chords that Made a Million). Any reactions to it yet from the >list? > > >Allan. The new cd is good although not as cohesive as Stupid Dream. Well worth having though. There are some stand out tracks on Lightbulb that will make good singles, and some longer classic PT tracks. The running order is a bit dodgy, IMO there is only one duff track. Dave From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jul 31 16:06:00 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:06:00 -0400 Subject: HW: Seen at Duffelbag.com Message-ID: Hi, A couple Griffin CD closeouts for between $7-10, and Huw Lloyd-Langton's Time, Space, and LLG on vinyl (Cutout) for $5. Blake, Brock, and Calvert for domestic type prices...$11-12ish. Agents of Chaos on cassette for the Kompletists! $5. Grakkl (FAA) From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jul 31 19:34:02 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 00:34:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Swap tape 2000 Message-ID: Does anybody feel like organising this, this year? Because I can't be arsed, that's all! But I'd still like to make a tape and stuff. -- Andy ObDVD: Myl?ne Farmer - _Live ? Bercy_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Jul 31 21:44:03 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:44:03 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda Message-ID: Good article on the "indie-musicians-in-car-ads" trend here ... http://www.feedmag.com/essay/es342_master.html No mention of Hawkwind, but Nick Drake, Galaxie 500, Buzzcocks, and the Minutemen (shocking! until I read that all proceeds go to emphesyma treatment for the late D. Boon's father) are all name-dropped. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Jul 31 21:48:05 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:48:05 -0700 Subject: HW: CAPTAIN JESUS AND THE SUNRAY DREAM (RON TREE) Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 02:39:39 -0700, "linuxchaos.org.uk" wrote: >CAPTAIN JESUS AND THE SUNRAY DREAM (RON TREE) > > ??-??-?? "All Thanks To The Lord Jesus Christ Amen" > >I gave Ron a tenner for this album in 1995 and never heard a thing! Too bad. I really like both Captain Jesus albums (that one and 'The Day That Nebulon Exploded'). Very heavy and punky ... good MC5 cover ... >Has anyone got some sort of contact details at all? There's a PO Box (or some sort of address) listed on the sleeve of both Captain Jesus LP's. I can look it up tonight after I get home from work ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Mon Jul 31 22:51:58 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:51:58 -0500 Subject: HW: SD minneapolis Message-ID: There is a couple hundred pictures from strange daze minneapolis here, http://members.tripod.com/~sparklyglitter/strangedaze/