From dahl at AROS.NET Sat Jan 1 00:40:13 2000 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 22:40:13 -0700 Subject: Year 2000 here we come Message-ID: (Am I the only one that's working tonight?) Here all night, try the veal! Brad Dahl Utah! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Sat Jan 1 04:51:54 2000 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 04:51:54 -0500 Subject: Y2K Message-ID: Happy New Year / Century / Millennium to all ! And lucky us, the Y2K bug hasn't striked... :-) Alex S. Garcia. --------------------------------------------------- Read the Icarus Encyclopedia of Fantasy & SF - http://www.noosfere.com/ (in French) - http://www.noosfere.com/icarus/homepage.htm (in English) Music videos : members.xoom.com/agarc/mvdb/ My Web HQ : members.tripod.com/~Mandor/ --------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jan 1 07:12:29 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 07:12:29 EST Subject: inquiry from dr synth Message-ID: the 'anything else' part refers to AP and DL playing together this year... the axual question involves BIONAUT... "<>" -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: DWa2898572 at aol.com Subject: Re: 'pusher' vs 'pusherman' Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:48:29 EST Size: 548 URL: From makmorn at QIS.NET Sat Jan 1 08:08:04 2000 From: makmorn at QIS.NET (Daniel Ligon) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 08:08:04 -0500 Subject: OFF: just another day in the year 5760... In-Reply-To: <0.33f782a1.259e1544@aol.com>; from DASLUD@AOL.COM on Fri, Dec 31, 1999 at 09:18:44AM -0500 Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 31, 1999 at 09:18:44AM -0500, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > greetings... > > i got this computer last xmas and joined BOC-L a few weeks after that. > > and oh, what a year it's been. You've made it quite an interesting year, and I think we've all learned something by having you among us. Seize the millennium! -- Daniel Ligon makmorn at qis.net We are in the hands of infinite power and infinite sadism. -- _Inferno_ From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sat Jan 1 06:40:51 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:40:51 +0000 Subject: Y2K In-Reply-To: <200001010951.EAA08963@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: Happy New Wotsit Everyone!!! ChrisW From mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jan 1 11:02:02 2000 From: mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET (Mark Robertson) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:02:02 -0000 Subject: HW: OFF 3rd in a series of digital hawk pics Message-ID: This time Hall of the Mountain Grill. Coments and flames welcomed http://freespace.virgin.net/mark.robertson/wind3.htm From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jan 1 11:16:42 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:16:42 -0000 Subject: HW: OFF 3rd in a series of digital hawk pics Message-ID: Blimey! Excellent. What's next? .....ASAM? Regards Dave -----Original Message----- From: Mark Robertson To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 01 January 2000 16:02 Subject: HW: OFF 3rd in a series of digital hawk pics >This time Hall of the Mountain Grill. Coments and flames welcomed > >http://freespace.virgin.net/mark.robertson/wind3.htm > From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Sat Jan 1 13:46:48 2000 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:46:48 -0500 Subject: HW: Equipment (was Re: HW:Theremin) Message-ID: Doug, Thanks for your really informative post, I was always curious. This topic does bring to mind something that has always got my interest: How have the Hawks produced their distinctive Hawkwind sounds? I don't have a complete list of them (I would need to go through each song just about and point them out). Some of it is equipment (audio generator/arppegiator) and some is technique. Is there a complete/semi-complete list of equipment that the Hawks have used over the years, including instruments AND effects (maybe even indexed to year(s)/tour/album)? Maybe our distinguished listee XXX could help enlighten us too :) Inquiring minds want to know, Dave istortion unit), but it has been many years. If it is just connectors, thats fine. If it is components (ICs, resistors, capicators, etc), I get a little wary of accidentaly frying the components, have done that before! The prices listed now are $299 US for a kit, and $369 US for a finished one. By the way, have you done music that you would care to share? I don't yet, but probably will in the future. Dave robably will in the future. =20 Dave At 01:39 PM 1/1/00 +0100, you wrote:=20 > > hei! > having had a nice celebration? > the etherwave has imo a great sound, and can be used for everything from > DikMik > noises to beautifully resembling a cello... i love this instrument. > it is said it closely resembles leo theremin's original sound. i find it > quite > "easy" to play - that is; each note is "separated" with the same= intervals. > that, > i guess, is the most important. > the etherwave DIY version is not-all-all- hard to put together (and it= cuts > off a > third of the costs if i don't remember wrongly) - it's just connecting= cables > and > maybe finishing the casing (i had a guy making a piano shellac finish to= it - > making it look a bit more old ;) > the cabling and print card etc. looks VERY sturdy - no cheap components= being > used > here! > this is how it looked like, before having it finished, brown-wood piano > style: > > [Image] > > it takes some practice to play it (and no coffee! no shaking!), but it's > worth > it...! > right now i'm dreaming of a VCS3 :) > > i bought, just for fun, a small single-antenna theremin while in london a= few > weeks back. it's battery operated, and almost impossible to play on - but= is > great > for sfx combined with various sound effects :) > > have a great year, > ketil svendsen, > norway > > > > > dhuggins wrote: > > > Ketil, > > > > I put up the original theremin post that started this thread. I > ran > > across one for sale at an "unusual instruments" website, and didn't know > > what one was. I now know a little bit more :) > > > > You say you personally recommend Big Briars Etherwave Theremin? = Do > you > > have one? If so, I am interested in more of your personal opinions. I= am > > thinking of either building one from a kit or buying one in the next six > > months or so (I just bought a Lexicon MPX-1 effects processor and am a > > little poor now, but it sure sounds great:). > > > > Happy Holidays, > > > > Dave > hei!=20 > having had a nice celebration?=20 > the etherwave has imo a great sound, and can be used for everything from > DikMik noises to beautifully resembling a cello... i love this instrument.= =20 > it is said it closely resembles leo theremin's original sound. i find it > quite "easy" to play - that is; each note is "separated" with the same > intervals. that, i guess, is the most important.=20 > the etherwave DIY version is not-all-all- hard to put together (and it= cuts > off a third of the costs if i don't remember wrongly) - it's just= connecting > cables and maybe finishing the casing (i had a guy making a piano shellac > finish to it - making it look a bit more old ;)=20 > the cabling and print card etc. looks VERY sturdy - no cheap components= being > used here!=20 > this is how it looked like, before having it finished, brown-wood piano > style:=20 > > OSProgramvolumTemporaryItemsnsmail3.=FED=D6=DC=B8=20 > > it takes some practice to play it (and no coffee! no shaking!), but it's > worth it...!=20 > right now i'm dreaming of a VCS3 :)=20 > > i bought, just for fun, a small single-antenna theremin while in london a= few > weeks back. it's battery operated, and almost impossible to play on - but= is > great for sfx combined with various sound effects :)=20 > > have a great year,=20 > ketil svendsen,=20 > norway=20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > > dhuggins wrote:=20 >> >> Ketil,=20 >> >> I put up the original theremin post that started this thread. I= ran >> >> across one for sale at an "unusual instruments" website, and didn't know= =20 >> what one was. I now know a little bit more :)=20 >> >> You say you personally recommend Big Briars Etherwave Theremin? = Do >> you=20 >> have one? If so, I am interested in more of your personal opinions. I= am=20 >> thinking of either building one from a kit or buying one in the next six= =20 >> months or so (I just bought a Lexicon MPX-1 effects processor and am a=20 >> little poor now, but it sure sounds great:).=20 >> >> Happy Holidays,=20 >> >> Dave > > > From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Sat Jan 1 14:13:01 2000 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:13:01 -0500 Subject: HW: Equipment (was Re: HW:Theremin) In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000101134549.02e43170@pop.dn.net> Message-ID: OOPS, ignore the rest of the post after "Dave", I swear, its the programs fault! (Yeah, right, hehe) My mail proggie was messing up on me so bad (for another reason), I was cutting and pasting for this and a couple of other messages. It apparently grabbed everything in the clipboard, for my outbox version of the message below stops after "Dave". At 01:46 PM 1/1/00 -0500, you wrote: >Doug, > > Thanks for your really informative post, I was always curious. > > This topic does bring to mind something that has always got my >interest: >How have the Hawks produced their distinctive Hawkwind sounds? I don't >have a complete list of them (I would need to go through each song just >about and point them out). Some of it is equipment (audio >generator/arppegiator) and some is technique. Is there a >complete/semi-complete list of equipment that the Hawks have used over the >years, including instruments AND effects (maybe even indexed to >year(s)/tour/album)? Maybe our distinguished listee XXX could help >enlighten us too :) > > Inquiring minds want to know, > > Dave > > istortion unit), but it has been many years. If >it is just connectors, thats fine. If it is components (ICs, resistors, >capicators, etc), I get a little wary of accidentaly frying the components, >have done that before! > > The prices listed now are $299 US for a kit, and $369 US for a >finished one. > > By the way, have you done music that you would care to share? I don't >yet, but probably will in the future. > > Dave >robably will in the future. =20 > > Dave > > >At 01:39 PM 1/1/00 +0100, you wrote:=20 >> >> hei! >> having had a nice celebration? >> the etherwave has imo a great sound, and can be used for everything from >> DikMik >> noises to beautifully resembling a cello... i love this instrument. >> it is said it closely resembles leo theremin's original sound. i find it >> quite >> "easy" to play - that is; each note is "separated" with the same= > intervals. >> that, >> i guess, is the most important. >> the etherwave DIY version is not-all-all- hard to put together (and it= > cuts >> off a >> third of the costs if i don't remember wrongly) - it's just connecting= > cables >> and >> maybe finishing the casing (i had a guy making a piano shellac finish to= > it - >> making it look a bit more old ;) >> the cabling and print card etc. looks VERY sturdy - no cheap components= > being >> used >> here! >> this is how it looked like, before having it finished, brown-wood piano >> style: >> >> [Image] >> >> it takes some practice to play it (and no coffee! no shaking!), but it's >> worth >> it...! >> right now i'm dreaming of a VCS3 :) >> >> i bought, just for fun, a small single-antenna theremin while in london a= > few >> weeks back. it's battery operated, and almost impossible to play on - but= > is >> great >> for sfx combined with various sound effects :) >> >> have a great year, >> ketil svendsen, >> norway >> >> >> >> >> dhuggins wrote: >> >> > Ketil, >> > >> > I put up the original theremin post that started this thread. I >> ran >> > across one for sale at an "unusual instruments" website, and didn't know >> > what one was. I now know a little bit more :) >> > >> > You say you personally recommend Big Briars Etherwave Theremin? = > Do >> you >> > have one? If so, I am interested in more of your personal opinions. I= > am >> > thinking of either building one from a kit or buying one in the next six >> > months or so (I just bought a Lexicon MPX-1 effects processor and am a >> > little poor now, but it sure sounds great:). >> > >> > Happy Holidays, >> > >> > Dave >> hei!=20 >> having had a nice celebration?=20 >> the etherwave has imo a great sound, and can be used for everything from >> DikMik noises to beautifully resembling a cello... i love this instrument.= >=20 >> it is said it closely resembles leo theremin's original sound. i find it >> quite "easy" to play - that is; each note is "separated" with the same >> intervals. that, i guess, is the most important.=20 >> the etherwave DIY version is not-all-all- hard to put together (and it= > cuts >> off a third of the costs if i don't remember wrongly) - it's just= > connecting >> cables and maybe finishing the casing (i had a guy making a piano shellac >> finish to it - making it look a bit more old ;)=20 >> the cabling and print card etc. looks VERY sturdy - no cheap components= > being >> used here!=20 >> this is how it looked like, before having it finished, brown-wood piano >> style:=20 >> >> OSProgramvolumTemporaryItemsnsmail3.=FED=D6=DC=B8=20 >> >> it takes some practice to play it (and no coffee! no shaking!), but it's >> worth it...!=20 >> right now i'm dreaming of a VCS3 :)=20 >> >> i bought, just for fun, a small single-antenna theremin while in london a= > few >> weeks back. it's battery operated, and almost impossible to play on - but= > is >> great for sfx combined with various sound effects :)=20 >> >> have a great year,=20 >> ketil svendsen,=20 >> norway=20 >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> >> dhuggins wrote:=20 >>> >>> Ketil,=20 >>> >>> I put up the original theremin post that started this thread. I= > ran >>> >>> across one for sale at an "unusual instruments" website, and didn't know= >=20 >>> what one was. I now know a little bit more :)=20 >>> >>> You say you personally recommend Big Briars Etherwave Theremin? = > Do >>> you=20 >>> have one? If so, I am interested in more of your personal opinions. I= > am=20 >>> thinking of either building one from a kit or buying one in the next six= >=20 >>> months or so (I just bought a Lexicon MPX-1 effects processor and am a=20 >>> little poor now, but it sure sounds great:).=20 >>> >>> Happy Holidays,=20 >>> >>> Dave >> >> >> From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Jan 2 11:51:09 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:51:09 EST Subject: HW: Equipment (was Re: HW:Theremin) Message-ID: this is a rerun of something i posted via doc synth a few months back.... ========================================================================== in the 70s, Del used both VCS-3 and AKS, which he uses to this day! Brock also used an AKS for Guitar Effects;DikMik started out with an audio test generator into an Echo unit, and got a synthesizer in '72 after the sucess of Silver Machine...at some point('73) the band had both its Synths smashed while on a German tour, and used Stockhausen Records for Electronic Effects! Simon House used an AKS, plus MiniMoog, Yamaha YC-45 D organ, and Mellotron! Brock then switched to using Korg/Roland gear in the '80s...Tim Blake was the last regular HW synthesist to use all analog gear untill Brock brought his AKS back out in 1995! Dr. Synth From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Sun Jan 2 12:15:06 2000 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:15:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Equipment (was Re: HW:Theremin) Message-ID: I've once compiled a (very short) list with the equipment Dave & Alan used in the 90's. I'm not sure, but I think I have the information from some interviews, perhaps the cyberspace ones on hawkwind.com. Dave: Korg M1, Korg 01/W, Korg DSS Sampler, Roland JX, Casio Sampler (I don't know which one) Alan: Korg AX300B FX-Processor, Korg Wavestation, Roland Jupiter 6 The following information about Dead Fred's stuff comes directly from Steve Pond (thanx Steve): > Fred always used a Wurlitzer Piano & a Hammond B1 organ with Leslie > cabinet, he had a Synthi AKS (A VCS3 in a suitcase) and sometimes a > Roland RS-09 organ/strings.. all put through a H/H echo chamber with > sliding head & there you have it.. Does someone know what gear Harvey used/uses? greetings from outer space D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Jan 2 15:55:03 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:55:03 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-lists 12/30 and 1/1/00 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINAMP : 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. 12/30/99 (11pm--2am) 1.Ozric Tentacles--Coily (Waterfall Cities) 2.Mushroom--Our Buddy Miles (Analog Hi-fi Surprise) 3.Magma--Koehntark Pt. 1 (Live) 4.Blue Oyster Cult--Mistress of the Salmon Salt (Tyranny and Mutation) 5.Frank Zappa--Elvis Has Just Left the Building (Broadway the Hardway) 6.Amon Duul II--Syntelman's March of the Roaring '70s (Tanz der Lemminge) 7.Amorphous Androgynous--Liquid Insects (Tales of Ephidrina) 8.Optica--Evolute (Amberdelic Space vol. 2 comp) 9.Hawxtar--Sonic Attack (Hawxtar bootleg) 10.Hawkwind--Star Cannibal (Church of Hawkwind) 11.ICU--I.C.U. (Hawkwind Friends and Relations: The Rarities) 12.Nick Riff's Freak Element--Pre-millenium Transmissions (Strange Daze '97 comp) 13.Anubian Lights--Ali Mamoun's Broken Entranceway (Let Not the Flame Die Out) 14.Pressurehed--Paralysis (Infadrone) 15.Can--I'm So Green (Ege Bamyasi) 16.FSOL--My Kingdom pt. 2 (My Kingdom EP) 17.Nik Turner--Spiral Galaxy 28949 (Past or Future?) 18.Helios Creed--Leaving the Body (Space Box comp) 19.ST-37--Night of Heaven (Spaceage) 20.Hawkwind--Spirit of the Age (Acid Daze/Anthology) 21.Alien Planetscapes--International Sponge (Space Box comp) 22.Zero Gravity--Space Does Not Care (Space Does Not Care) 23.Melting Euphoria--Venusian Skyline (Upon the Solar Winds) 24.FSOL--My Kingdom pt. 4 (My Kingdom EP) 25.Holy River Family Band--The Force Comes From the Strength of a Horse (Turn Century Turn comp) 1/1/00 (5pm--11pm) 1.Chrome--Chromosome Damage (Alien Soundtracks/Chrome Box) 2.Residents--Arctic Hysteria (Eskimo) 3.Architectural Metaphor--Kairos (Creature of the Velvet Void) 4.Lithium X-mas--Hip Death Goddess (Helldorado) 5.Pere Ubu--Final Solution (Datapanik in the Year Zero-A 7") 6.Hawkwind--Space Is Deep (Doremi Fasol Latido) 7.Quarkspace--Don't Stop the Levee/Quarkital (Live Orion) 8.Farflung--Don't Forget to Breathe/25000 Ft. per Second (25000 Ft. per Second) 9.Zappa--Purple Haze/Sunshine of Your Love (The Best Band You Never Heard in Your Life) 10.Zappa/Mothers/Beafheart--Poofter's Froth Wyoming Plans Ahead/200 Years Old/Cucamonga (Bongo Fury) 11.Ozric Tentacles--Mantric Mutterings in Which Tig Evaporates (Live Ethereal Cereal) 12.Sundial--Reflecter (Reflecter) 13.Transfinite--Omega (Amberdelic Space comp) 14.Alman Mulo Band--Toad on the Road (Orisha) 15.Beyondomatic--Buttercup (Your Body) 16.Kraan--Die Maschine (Let It Out) 17.Nitzinger--Mother Lode (One Foot in History) 18.Daniel Lanois--Ice (Acadie) 19.Dieter Moebius--Im Raum (Blotch) 20.Spacious Mind--Interplanetarian Love Machine (Organic Mind Solution) 21.Hawkwind--Shade Gate (Chronicle of the Black Sword) 22.Tangerine Dream--Atem (Atem) 23.Amon Duul II--Stumbling Over Melted Moonlight (Tanz der Lemminge) 24.Helios Creed--1st Encounter (Planet X) 25.Hawkwind--You Shouldn't Do That (Roadhawks/Anthology-Acid Daze) 26.Pink Faries--Suicide (Think Pink) 27.Ozric Tentacles--Sunscape (Erpland) 28.Anubian Lights--Jackal & Nine (Eternal Sky) 29.Pressurehed--Red Delta (Sudden Vertigo) 30.Pink Floyd--Dogs (Animals) 31.Camel--Lunar Sea (Moonmadness) 32.The Doors--Waiting for the Sun (Morrison Hotel) 33.Pink Floyd--Fat Old Sun (Atom Heart Mother) 34.Can--Halleluwah (Tago Mago) 35.Tea Party--Innana (Edges of Twilight) 36.Orb--Plateau (Live '93) 37.Klaus Schulze--Wahnfried 1883 (Space Daze 2000 comp) 38.Enigma--The Eyes of Truth (2-The Cross of Changes) 39.Ozric Tentacles--Mysticum Arabicola (Erpland) 40.Brian Eno--M386 (Music For Films) 41.Mirza--These Are Our Last Days (Anadromous) Thanks, Chuck From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Sun Jan 2 23:09:16 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:09:16 EST Subject: ....lemmy film? Message-ID: January 2/2000 Welcome to 2000! Motorhead welcomes the year 2000! This year will see some exciting things for Motorhead, specifically: * A new studio album in the spring * A tour in support of the new album * Lemmy's long awaited biography, WHITE LINE FEVER 2000 also marks the 25th Anniversary of Motorhead. Watch for some exciting happenings in the course of the year! 8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888Lemmy Film Noted German documentarian Peter Sempel is making a film all about our favorite bass player, Lemmy. I know that he has done interviews with lots of celebs for the film, as well as having filmed several shows. He was also on hand to take film during the recording of the upcoming album. He hopes to release the film at the Berlin Film Festival on Feb 10/2000. Check out details on his website located at http://www.sempel.com From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Jan 3 07:12:53 2000 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 07:12:53 -0500 Subject: OFF: Band Names Message-ID: I have not heard the Sweet tune, but I am sure that it is there own. > -----Original Message----- > From: Phillip A Jaeger [SMTP:riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 11:48 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF: Band Names > > "Hall, Russell J" wrote: > > > Yes, indeed-e > > > > Lord Bendover, Duc d'Istortion, Count Bassie, & Jackie Kickassis > > singing songs like > > Little Rickshaw Boy > > Hifalutin' > > Long Table for Two > > 20 Paces > > Bleed Me > > Rabble Rouser > > Vulgar Tongue > > Old Money > > and (of course) > > I've Got My Ascot and My Dickie > > > > so, is Rabble Rouser their own or a cover of the old Sweet tune? From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Mon Jan 3 11:13:20 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:13:20 -0500 Subject: BAJA PROG 2000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:33:24 EST From: LANPHOMUS at aol.com Subject: BAJA PROG 2000 Update No. 5 Date: 02 Jan 2000 BAJA PROG 2000 Update No. 5 Hello Prog Fans: The fourth edition of the annual Progressive Rock Festival Baja Prog to be held from March 1 thru March 4 in Mexicali, Mexico, continues its preparation with full force. Here is a detailed list of events for each day: Wednesday March 1: Opening of Festival, "Teatro del Seguro Social", 8PM, us$5 - - EQUINOX (Panama). The central american band returns with a new lineup which includes a female lead singer. http://www.1russ.com/ - - An unconfirmed band following Equinox (to be announced) Thursday March 2: "Caf? Literario", 2PM, cover charge - - KROMLECH (Mexico). A new promising group from Mexico City with a varied style which includes symphonic, barroque and electronic passages. "Teatro del Estado", 7PM, us$12 - - ECLAT (France). A new double live album from Eclat will be available at the festival. http://www.alpes-net.fr/~simpsons/eclat_bioGB.html - - NEXUS (Argentina). "Detras del Umbral" is their recent album, and recording for a new album is on the way. - - THE FLOWER KINGS (Sweden). Tracks from their recent double studio album will also be performed. http://www.users.wineasy.se/flowerkings/etta.html Friday March 3: "Caf? Literario", 2PM, cover charge - - TEN JINN (USA). It woudn't be a complete Baja Prog without the appearance of Ten Jinn. http://www.loop.com/~tenjinn "Teatro del Estado", 7PM, us$12 - - DRAMA (France). They bring their new album "21st Century". http://www.musearecords.com/Bands/dram.html - - ISILDURS BANE (Sweden) http://www.isildursbane.se/ - - PALLAS (United Kingdom). "Beat the Drum" is their new album. http://www.pallas-uk.com/images/bodypage.html Saturday March 4: "Teatro del Estado", 2PM, us$12 - - FIVE FIFTEEN (Finland) http://www.novision.fi/fivefifteen/ - - HALLOWEEN (France). A new album from them is in the way. http://www.musearecords.com/Bands/halloween.html - - JADIS (United Kingdom). "Understand" is the title of their new album, available at the festival. http://www.dprp.vuurwerk.nl/bands/jadis/news.html - - AFTER CRYING (Hungary). "Around the World Live", a double live album which includes performances from Baja Prog 99. http://w3.datanet.hu/~aftercry/index.html Closing of Festival afterwards (place to be announced) For additional information regarding Baja Prog, you can check the following web page: http://www.1russ.com NEW BAJA PROG RELATED MERCHANDISE: - - QUIDAM "Live in Mexico 99" is a recording of their entire performance during Baja Prog 99. Now available. - - AFTER CRYING "Around the World Live", a double live album which includes performances from Baja Prog 99. - - CAST "Legacy", the 9th studio album from the host band. To be released for Baja Prog 2000 - - CAST "Laguna de Volcanes", new double disc compilation in spanish, to be released by Luna Negra. - - Various Artists "E-Progeny", a compilation of keyboard work by several artists, recently released by Luna Negra and featuring Cast's keyboardist Alfonso Vidales - - Various Artists "Baja Prog 98", featuring some of the bands from that festival, available from Musea Records. HOTEL INFORMATION: If you have not made your reservations already, please try to do so real soon, since last year the hotel got booked up early due to an unforeseen additional local event. Hotel Araiza Inn Mexicali Boulevar Benito Juarez 2220 Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico Telephone (52)(6) 564-1100 >>From Mexico toll free at 01-800-026-5444 >>From USA toll free at 1-800-927-2402 "Baja Prog" Rates: - -Single room us$65 - -Double room us$70 - -Suite room us$100 These prices do not include 10% of IVA tax and 2% lodging tax. TICKETS INFORMATION: "Golden Circle" Tickets are still available, but not for long. The price for the shows at the Teatro del Estado is us$12 for each day or us$36 for three days. The first 100 Tickets will be reserved for the "Golden Circle" of spectators, who will be seated among the first three rows at the "Teatro del Estado". In order to get the preferred seats, advance ticket orders must be received before January 31. For those who want to order tickets in advance, you can do so by mail with check or money order payable to CAST PRODUCTIONS and mail to: CAST Productions 1600 W. La Jolla Dr. #2173 Tempe, AZ 85282 U.S.A. Credit Card orders (Visa and MasterCard) are also available via Telephone at (480) 642-5745 or by regular mail. E-mail orders (LANPHOMUS at aol.com) are also accepted for ticket purchases, but delivery will be made after receipt of payment. We encourage you not to send your credit card information by e-mail. DRIVING DIRECTIONS: Coming from San Diego and Southern California. Depending where you are in San Diego, take either I-15 south, I-805 south or I-15 south to I-8 east (El Centro). In about 1 hour and 45 minutes you will arrive in El Centro, California. Continue on I-8 east until you see Hwy 111. Take Hwy 111 south to Calexico. In about 15 minutes you will arrive at Calexico. Continue driving south on Imperial Avenue and after a few blocks you will be crossing the international border into Mexicali. Coming from Phoenix, Tucson, etc. Take I-8 west as if you were going to San Diego. After about an hour from Yuma you will see Hwy 111. Take Hwy 111 south to Calexico. In about 15 minutes you will arrive at Calexico. Continue driving south on Imperial Avenue and after a few blocks you will be crossing the international border into Mexicali. TOURIST INFORMATION: The following web page gives basic tourist information about Mexicali. http://cgi.aros.net/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/sanbachs/mexico2.cgi/City=MXL A SPECIAL NOTE: Tickets for Saturday, March 4 were misprinted early. Please note that the correct time for the first show on Saturday is 2 PM, not 7 PM. Unfortunately our e-mailing list might contain addresses of people who are not interested in receiving our flyers. If you want to be removed from our list, please send an e-mail with "remove me" or "unsubscribe" as the subject. We would like to take the opportunity to wish everyone a happy new year 2000. Until next time! Progressively, Members of CAST and the Consolidated Collaboration Group LANPHOMUS at aol.com cast at sahuaro.mxl.cetys.mx From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jan 4 14:09:21 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:09:21 +0000 Subject: HW:Theremin In-Reply-To: <0.755bdbb2.259d23f1@aol.com>; from DASLUD@AOL.COM on Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 04:09:05PM -0500 Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 04:09:05PM -0500, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > could it be? > could it be that we're half a dozen posts into this thread and NO ONE has > mentioned > the beach boys' "good vibrations"? > > until now? I feel it's also necessary to direct the interested listener to large parts of both _Dopes To Infinity_ and _Powertrip_ by Monster Magnet for blatant "this thing makes a cool noise"-ism by Dave Wyndorf... Yours, Jon -- /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Polarisation vibration frequency locator interface - AFFIRMATIVE!" | | ICU | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Tue Jan 4 14:35:25 2000 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 14:35:25 -0500 Subject: HW:Theremin Message-ID: When I saw Monster Magnet at the Troubadour in Hollywood, they placed a theremin in the middle of the stage. It seemed to change the sound....made it more spacey. Or maybe it was all in my mind. Dr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Jarrett [SMTP:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 11:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW:Theremin On Thu, Dec 30, 1999 at 04:09:05PM -0500, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > could it be? > could it be that we're half a dozen posts into this thread and NO ONE has > mentioned > the beach boys' "good vibrations"? > > until now? I feel it's also necessary to direct the interested listener to large parts of both _Dopes To Infinity_ and _Powertrip_ by Monster Magnet for blatant "this thing makes a cool noise"-ism by Dave Wyndorf... Yours, Jon -- /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Polarisation vibration frequency locator interface - AFFIRMATIVE!" | | ICU | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jan 4 14:48:59 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:48:59 -0800 Subject: HW: Equipment (was Re: HW:Theremin) Message-ID: There's a great *complete* list of the band's equipment (instruments, effects, amps - everything!) from the Space Ritual era on http://www.hawkwind.com ... you can go to the "scrapbook" section and select the following article: Band breakdown: Melody Maker, 7 April 1973 or just go directly to: http://www.hawkwind.com/cutting14.htm Also, the back cover of 'Church of Hawkwind' has an equally-great list of the band's equipment right at the end of the analog synth era (c.82/83 - the Yamaha DX7 became the first "mass-popular" digital synth around 84/85) including the ubiquitous EMS Synthi (which, I believe, has been used on just about every Hawkwind album, and is pictured in one of the 90s-trio promo photos with, I believe, Alan pointing a microphone at it), and the Korg MS-20, one of the baddest-ass analog monophonic synthesizers ever made (a personal favorite), which I'm pretty certain (it has a very distinctive resonant filter sound) is responsible for most of the "sound effects"-type sounds heard on post-Blake early-80s live recordings. As for Harvey's gear, I'm pretty certain he used the same kind of Korg & Roland keyboards that Dave did at the time ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jan 4 15:50:05 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:50:05 -0800 Subject: Y2K Message-ID: On Sat, 1 Jan 2000 04:51:54 -0500, "Alex S. Garcia" wrote: >Happy New Year / Century / Millennium to all ! > >And lucky us, the Y2K bug hasn't striked... :-) ... except for the boc-l archives: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind0001a&L=boc-l :^) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 4 18:15:21 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:15:21 +0000 Subject: HW:Just to say hello from Filip Hawknut from Gent Belgium Message-ID: > Filip Vanhuyse wrote: > > Hello all BOC-listers, > Want to hello as I'm finally on the list too. Greetings - and welcome. > I'm a completist like Andrew Dawson,so any of you who has any stuff to sell or more likely to swapp,I'm more > than interested. you wouldn't have a spare copy of a 7" Hassan I Sahba single would you?! yrs optimistically jill ObGreetings> Happy New and hopefully bug-free Millennium to one and all ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jan 4 19:34:11 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 00:34:11 +0000 Subject: HW: CDs spotted locally Message-ID: Dear All, spotted in my local 2nd-hand shop, whilst buying Pink Fairies self-titled and Man's _Maximum Darkness_ on vinyl, the following in the CD racks, which I believe person or persons various were after at one point or another: Castle Masters Collection (really this time, Jill), and _Glastonbury 1990_ (was it Bernhard having trouble finding this?) Anyway, if anyone would like me to pick these up for them mail me and we can arrange it. Yours, Jon From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Tue Jan 4 21:05:45 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:05:45 EST Subject: Fwd: CMC GRAMMY NOMINATION Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Mark.Roper at bmge.com Subject: CMC GRAMMY NOMINATION Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:53:09 -0500 Size: 972 URL: From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Tue Jan 4 21:07:30 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:07:30 EST Subject: off: lemmy...grammy...spare me Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Mark.Roper at bmge.com Subject: CMC GRAMMY NOMINATION Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:53:09 -0500 Size: 972 URL: From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Jan 5 04:11:05 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:11:05 -0000 Subject: Y2K Message-ID: > > > >And lucky us, the Y2K bug hasn't striked... :-) Isn't it ironic that computer users have shortened '2000' to 'Y2K'? Surely that was what caused the whole problem in the first place? Cheers, Rich. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Wed Jan 5 13:45:47 2000 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:45:47 -0000 Subject: Help !! Message-ID: Hey ho, Qeustion for y'all... How do I set Outlook (2000) to bundle all me mail instead of getting one mail with lots of sub-mails bundled in it ?? All comments gratefully received. Mark From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 5 16:43:58 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:43:58 +0000 Subject: Y2K In-Reply-To: <005001bf575c$cd083c60$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk> Message-ID: At 09:11 05/01/00 , Richard Lockwood wrote: >Isn't it ironic that computer users have shortened '2000' to 'Y2K'? Surely >that was what caused the whole problem in the first place? Especially as 2K is actually 2048. (1K = 2 to the power of 10 = 1024). Dave. Dave Berry, www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~daveb From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Jan 5 17:16:59 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:16:59 -0500 Subject: Y2K In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000105214255.0099ae90@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk>; from daveb@TARDIS.ED.AC.UK on Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 09:43:58PM +0000 Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 09:43:58PM +0000, Dave Berry wrote: > At 09:11 05/01/00 , Richard Lockwood wrote: > >Isn't it ironic that computer users have shortened '2000' to 'Y2K'? Surely > >that was what caused the whole problem in the first place? > > Especially as 2K is actually 2048. Which is ten years after the next major date crisis, Jan 19, 2038 at 03:14:08 GMT, when many UNIX systems' internal time counters will overflow. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Jan 5 17:47:42 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:47:42 -0500 Subject: Y2K In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000105214255.0099ae90@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Dave Berry wrote: => At 09:11 05/01/00 , Richard Lockwood wrote: => >Isn't it ironic that computer users have shortened '2000' to 'Y2K'? Surely => >that was what caused the whole problem in the first place? => => Especially as 2K is actually 2048. Not necessarily. When used in its more familiar sense of "kilo," meaning "thousand," e.g., 1 Kg = 1000 grams; 1 Km = 1000 metres; etc., it makes perfect sense (Y2K = Y2000). They advertise 5K and 10K runs around here all the time, but I doubt they mean 5120 and 10240 metres... ;-) => (1K = 2 to the power of 10 = 1024). But more properly, that's 1 KB. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jan 5 17:54:11 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:54:11 -0500 Subject: Y3.72K Message-ID: Dave pointed out... >At 09:11 05/01/00 , Richard Lockwood wrote: >>Isn't it ironic that computer users have shortened '2000' to 'Y2K'? Surely >>that was what caused the whole problem in the first place? > >Especially as 2K is actually 2048. > >(1K = 2 to the power of 10 = 1024). Well, I like to think of this year as A.D. 3720, with only 60 more years to go before the next millenium, i.e., A.D. 4000. I'd be 123 years old then (15 years younger than my grandma is currently), seeing as I was born in A.D. 3657. But then, I'm anti-thumb and think we should change our decimal system by eliminating the numbers 8 and 9, and divide everything up numerically as we (over here in the states still) do with our rulers (except that having 14 inches per foot doesn't make sense). Then, powers of two and powers of ten would continually coincide, and 1000's would still be 1000's, no matter what. Keith H. (FAA) From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Wed Jan 5 17:58:58 2000 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:58:58 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand Message-ID: We have now booked tickets for New Zealand tour! It looks confirmed, but until we are in the country, who knows. Some of the dates are up on Welcome to the Future site. When they are all confirmed I will put them on Mission Control. First gig in NZ is 29th Jan. Possibility of gig in LA on the way back around March 6th. Simon House, Harvey Bainbridge and Steve Taylor from Cleveland will be guesting with us. Kris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jan 5 18:00:55 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:00:55 -0500 Subject: Y3.72K Message-ID: I incorrectly stated... >seeing as I was born in A.D. 3657. Sorry...I forgot...I was really born in A.D. 3655! I'm actually 43 (or 35 for you thumbers!). Keith H. (FAA) From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jan 5 18:33:28 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 23:33:28 +0000 Subject: Y2K In-Reply-To: <20000105171659.A4301@telepres.com> Message-ID: In message <20000105171659.A4301 at telepres.com>, Eric Siegerman writes >Which is ten years after the next major date crisis, Jan 19, 2038 >at 03:14:08 GMT, when many UNIX systems' internal time counters >will overflow. > >-- Oh shit, really? Here, will this ?25 million quid help fix it? -- Jon From flossbac at NLCI.COM Wed Jan 5 19:40:13 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:40:13 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand Message-ID: Oh those lucky souls in LA who might get to see the Hawks! And with Harvey and Simon House no less!!! So, Kris, what are the chances of a US tour coming through the Chicago area sometime this year? John Majka We have now booked tickets for New Zealand tour! It looks confirmed, but until we are in the country, who knows. Some of the dates are up on Welcome to the Future site. When they are all confirmed I will put them on Mission Control. First gig in NZ is 29th Jan. Possibility of gig in LA on the way back around March 6th. Simon House, Harvey Bainbridge and Steve Taylor from Cleveland will be guesting with us. Kris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jan 5 20:18:46 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:18:46 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand In-Reply-To: <000f01bf57de$98b63f20$d26040ce@pavilion> Message-ID: At 07:40 PM 1/5/2000 -0500, flossbac wrote: > And with Harvey and Simon House no less!!! So, Kris, what are the >chances of a US tour coming through the Chicago area sometime this year? Hey, they hit Chicago only a few years ago! Hawkwind has never played closer than 1000 miles to a location I was living in.... (earlier central america, now that hotbed of spacerock*, south Florida..... My arguments that Opa-Locka, FL, would be a logical place for the hawks to play has never achieved anything....) *well, captain cloud lives nearby... At least B?C passes through here every other winter or so... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jan 5 20:38:56 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:38:56 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand Message-ID: AA said... >Hawkwind has never played closer than 1000 miles to a location I was living >in.... (earlier central america, now that hotbed of spacerock*, south >Florida..... My arguments that Opa-Locka, FL, would be a logical place for >the hawks to play has never achieved anything....) But not until after playing at Alice Springs, Australia, eh? Keith H. (FAA) From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jan 6 11:39:55 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 08:39:55 PST Subject: BOC-L archives Message-ID: I was so bored today I followed the link to the archives to see the millennium bug in action and have spent the rest of my working day reading old old old posts. I had never realized the last 5 years post were stored like this, I only remember reading about the appended text files on the FTP site (which I'd also completely forgotten about). Good Lord. Things do seem to have changed a bit around here, even since I joined. Now, when I were a lad..... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Thu Jan 6 14:25:11 2000 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:25:11 -0800 Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand Message-ID: > Possibility of gig in LA on the way back around March 6th. > Simon House, Harvey Bainbridge and Steve Taylor from Cleveland will be > guesting with us. Oh *please* add a hop up the coast to San Francisco!!! scorch From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 6 16:44:02 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:44:02 +0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand In-Reply-To: <008201bf57d0$75b6edc0$a8ea93c3@default> Message-ID: So, are the Australians on the list booking their flights yet? Dave. At 22:58 05/01/00 , XXX wrote: > > We have now booked tickets for New Zealand tour! > It looks confirmed, but until we are in the country, who knows. > Some of the dates are up on Welcome to the Future site. When they are all > confirmed I will put them on Mission Control. > First gig in NZ is 29th Jan. > Possibility of gig in LA on the way back around March 6th. > Simon House, Harvey Bainbridge and Steve Taylor from Cleveland will be > guesting with us. > > Kris Dave Berry, www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~daveb From joe.e at TELIA.COM Thu Jan 6 18:44:37 2000 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:44:37 +0100 Subject: Y2K Message-ID: >=> >Isn't it ironic that computer users have shortened '2000' to 'Y2K'? Surely >=> >that was what caused the whole problem in the first place? >=> >=> Especially as 2K is actually 2048. > >Not necessarily. When used in its more familiar sense of "kilo," >meaning "thousand," e.g., 1 Kg = 1000 grams; 1 Km = 1000 metres; etc., >it makes perfect sense (Y2K = Y2000). there's a slight difference between 'K' and 'k'. 1000 grams = 1 kg 1000 meters = 1 km and the recent computer bug should therefore be titled correct as Y2k. isn't the capital 'K' is used for the 'binary thousand' 10000000000 - which is decimal 1024? - in that case Y2K is making perfect sense as Y2048. .joe From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jan 7 03:39:37 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 08:39:37 -0000 Subject: HW: NZ Message-ID: This just in... -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham -----Original Message----- From: cranium at cranium.co.nz [mailto:cranium at cranium.co.nz]On Behalf Of Richard Stockwell Sent: 07 January 2000 02:12 To: newsletter at cranium.co.nz Subject: Cranium_Music_Newsletter # 39 CRANIUM MUSIC NEWSLETTER # 39 (HAWKWIND UPDATE) JANUARY 7th 2000 http://www.cranium.co.nz richard at cranium.co.nz HAWKWIND TOUR NEW ZEALAND UPDATE The following Hawkwind members are confirmed to arrive (plus lighting/sound staff and manager)in New Zealand 25th January 2000. HARVEY BAINBRIDGE DAVE BROCK RICHARD CHADWICK STEVEN EARL TAYLOR SIMON HOUSE JERRY RICHARDS Confirmed Venues and Dates NORTH ISLAND Jan 25th Tuesday Arrive New Zealand Jan 28th Friday The Forum North, Whangarei Feb 5th Saturday Powerstation, Mt Eden, Auckland Feb 11th Friday James Cabaret, Wellington Feb 12th Saturday James Cabaret, Wellington SOUTH ISLAND Feb 19th Saturday The Artery, Nelson Feb 26th Saturday Caledonian Hall, Christchurch Mar 3rd Friday Metropolitan Club, Dunedin Other venues being looked at are: NORTH ISLAND Waiheke Island Mt Maunganui Waihi Palmerston North SOUTH ISLAND Queenstown Westport Ticket prices and availability will be announced soon. I will post further information as it comes to hand. ******************************** NEW RELEASE ARRIVED IN STOCK AT CRANIUM MUSIC CIPHER NO ORDINARY MAN Cipher are a two man group made up of Theo Travis who some will know from the work he has contributed to PORCUPINE TREE & BASS COMMUNION as well as a host of other releases by JADE WARRIOR, JANSEN, BARBIERI, KARN & many others. Also in jazz circles Theo Travis is a well known and respected musician and over the years he has won many awards. In 1997 he toured Japan with Mick Karn, Steve Jansen, Richard Barbieri and DJ Krush. The other half of Cipher is Dave Sturt who was an original member of the ambient group JADE WARRIOR. Dave Sturt has also written music for film and TV. Theo plays soprano sax, alto flute, piano, keyboards & samples while Dave Sturt plays fretless bass, programming, samples & loops. The music on "No Ordinary Man" is made up of ambient soundscapes. Other people who contribute are Richard Barbieri on electronics & keyboards (2 tracks), Steven Wilson on guitar & treatments (2 tracks) & Rabbi Gaddy Zerbib on vocals on 1 track. This is music to play on a hot summers day with an ice cold drink while sitting on your patio and should also interest those who like the BASS COMMUNION style atmospherics, although I personally thing this is far better than the two Bass Communion releases. *********************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you wish to be removed from this mailing list, send an email to: majordomo at cranium.co.nz with the words unsubscribe newsletter in the email body (not subject). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This mailing list is owned by Cranium Music - http://www.cranium.co.nz, and is maintained by webmaster at cranium.co.nz . We use Majordomo, version 1.94.3. From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 7 04:16:45 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:16:45 +0000 Subject: HW: NZ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Andy Gilham writes >HAWKWIND TOUR NEW ZEALAND UPDATE > The following Hawkwind members are confirmed to arrive (plus lighting/sound >staff and manager)in New Zealand 25th January 2000. >HARVEY BAINBRIDGE >DAVE BROCK >RICHARD CHADWICK >STEVEN EARL TAYLOR >SIMON HOUSE >JERRY RICHARDS Where's Ron? -- Jon From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jan 7 05:04:29 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:04:29 -0000 Subject: HW: NZ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Where's Ron? Pure speculation, but Ron had a hard time of it with immigration last time he went abroad, which might have something to do with it. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Fri Jan 7 06:38:39 2000 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:38:39 +0100 Subject: HW: NZ Message-ID: > HAWKWIND TOUR NEW ZEALAND UPDATE > The following Hawkwind members are confirmed to arrive (plus lighting/sound > staff and manager)in New Zealand 25th January 2000. > HARVEY BAINBRIDGE > DAVE BROCK > RICHARD CHADWICK > STEVEN EARL TAYLOR > SIMON HOUSE ^^^^^^^^^^^ > JERRY RICHARDS Is Simon then again permanent member? Or is he "just" guesting? greetings from outer space D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Fri Jan 7 07:30:19 2000 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:30:19 +0100 Subject: HW: NZ In-Reply-To: <3875D03F.72F621B6@unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: > > HAWKWIND TOUR NEW ZEALAND UPDATE > > The following Hawkwind members are confirmed to arrive (plus > lighting/sound > > staff and manager)in New Zealand 25th January 2000. > > HARVEY BAINBRIDGE > > DAVE BROCK > > RICHARD CHADWICK > > STEVEN EARL TAYLOR who is he and is he poet ....... > > SIMON HOUSE > > JERRY RICHARDS andre From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jan 7 11:04:19 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:04:19 -0500 Subject: HW: NZ Message-ID: Andre asked... >> > HAWKWIND TOUR NEW ZEALAND UPDATE >> > The following Hawkwind members are confirmed to arrive (plus >> lighting/sound >> > staff and manager)in New Zealand 25th January 2000. >> > HARVEY BAINBRIDGE >> > DAVE BROCK >> > RICHARD CHADWICK >> > STEVEN EARL TAYLOR > > who is he and is he poet ....... No, Steve Taylor is from Cleveland, OH and plays both bass and guitar. He was on bass for the StrangeWind '98 show (and Nik '99), but played guitar in the Hawkwind cover band called 'Sun Machine,' that played a number of gigs in Cleveland during '96-'98. There was a tape running around here of their first performance before the name Sun Machine was coined, labelled instead as 'Angels of Death' band. (also with Doug Walker of AP.) Before all this, he played with Nick Riff, another Ohioan and the lone American representative on the Delerium label perhaps. When I talked to him at the Gong show in Cleveland (he was actually tour manager of that final bit), he told me that Dave had asked him if he could fill in on bass for any future shows over here in the states, presumably because of visa difficulties with Ron. I imagine then, that this is exactly why he's on the bill for NZ. Keith H. (FAA) From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jan 7 11:01:36 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:01:36 -0000 Subject: HW: NZ Message-ID: >> > STEVEN EARL TAYLOR > > who is he and is he poet ....... with no Ron I'd guess he's a bassist NIck From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 7 11:49:41 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:49:41 -0000 Subject: Turbo Message-ID: I was digging through a pile of old rock magazines from ~1981. One of them contained a promo photo and news item of Turbo featuring Simon King and Simon House, I think the singer left to join Fast Eddie Clarke, or something similar. Was anything recorded? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jan 7 12:22:34 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:22:34 PST Subject: BOC-L Digest - 6 Jan 2000 to 7 Jan 2000 Message-ID: >From: Automatic digest processor >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: Recipients of BOC-L digests >Subject: BOC-L Digest - 6 Jan 2000 to 7 Jan 2000 >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 05:01:56 -0500 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> ><< message8.txt >> ><< message10.txt >> ><< message12.txt >> ><< message14.txt >> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jan 7 13:33:11 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:33:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Y2K In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.20000107004037.132f8884@m1.171.telia.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Johan Edlundh wrote: => there's a slight difference between 'K' and 'k'. => => 1000 grams = 1 kg => 1000 meters = 1 km => => and the recent computer bug should therefore be titled correct as Y2k. Hey, I've seen it written like that. "10K cross-country run in Y2k!" >;-) => isn't the capital 'K' is used for the 'binary thousand' 10000000000 - which => is decimal 1024? - in that case Y2K is making perfect sense as Y2048. (This thread is getting stupider by the minute, but, heck, it's a slow day...;) Last I checked, "K" was the SI symbol for Kelvin, a base unit of thermodynamic temperature. As far as computers are concerned, I've only noticed a serious differentiation between the suffixes "b" (bit) and "B" (byte), e.g., 10 Mb (megabit) is not the same as 10 MB (megabyte). And even the prefixes are not standard in the computer arena. Purchasers of hard drives should take care to determine whether the manufacturer of his or her chosen hard drive uses powers of 10 or powers of 2 for their size prefix. For example, I believe a Maxtor "megabyte" is 1 million (10^6) bytes, whereas a Seagate "megabyte" is 1,048,576 (2^20) bytes. So, if you have the choice of a 540 MB drive of either of those manufacturers, all else being equal, choose the Seagate, because you'll actually be getting more storage. ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Jan 7 14:22:50 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:22:50 -0500 Subject: Y2K Message-ID: Well if ya look at it that way.. certain doomsayers have held that the book of psalms corresponds to the years... And that doomsday comes when we run out of psalms.. I think they stop at 2050... Oh boy, I can't wait.. If I quit smoking now, I -might- make ot TO armageddon! ;) Rj > >isn't the capital 'K' is used for the 'binary thousand' 10000000000 - which >is decimal 1024? - in that case Y2K is making perfect sense as Y2048. > > >.joe From chrisr at TIAC.NET Fri Jan 7 15:54:16 2000 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:54:16 -0500 Subject: HW: NZ Message-ID: I have seen Sun Machine twice with Steve Taylor, and I think he is a fantastic guitarist. I think those were very memorable gigs, and they were playing HW songs that we may never hear from the band, and darn good versions too. I have not heard him on bass, but on Dave Brock style guitar doing HW he is incredible. I can't wait to hear more out of him. Chris Nick Lee wrote: > >> > STEVEN EARL TAYLOR > > > > who is he and is he poet ....... > > with no Ron I'd guess he's a bassist > > NIck From flossbac at NLCI.COM Fri Jan 7 16:17:17 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:17:17 -0500 Subject: HW: NZ Message-ID: Well I hope you New Zealand folks will have your recorders at the ready! This sounds like a very exciting Hawkwind tour and I'm eagerly looking forward to hearing the tapes! John Majka > HAWKWIND TOUR NEW ZEALAND UPDATE > The following Hawkwind members are confirmed to arrive (plus lighting/sound > staff and manager)in New Zealand 25th January 2000. > HARVEY BAINBRIDGE > DAVE BROCK > RICHARD CHADWICK > STEVEN EARL TAYLOR > SIMON HOUSE > JERRY RICHARDS > > Confirmed Venues and Dates > > NORTH ISLAND > Jan 25th Tuesday Arrive New Zealand > Jan 28th Friday The Forum North, Whangarei > Feb 5th Saturday Powerstation, Mt Eden, Auckland > Feb 11th Friday James Cabaret, Wellington > Feb 12th Saturday James Cabaret, Wellington > > SOUTH ISLAND > Feb 19th Saturday The Artery, Nelson > Feb 26th Saturday Caledonian Hall, Christchurch > Mar 3rd Friday Metropolitan Club, Dunedin > > Other venues being looked at are: > NORTH ISLAND > Waiheke Island > Mt Maunganui > Waihi > Palmerston North > > SOUTH ISLAND > Queenstown > Westport > > Ticket prices and availability will be announced soon. I will post further > information as it comes to hand. > > ******************************** > > > NEW RELEASE ARRIVED IN STOCK AT CRANIUM MUSIC > CIPHER NO ORDINARY MAN > Cipher are a two man group made up of Theo Travis who some will know from > the work he has contributed to PORCUPINE TREE & BASS COMMUNION as well as a > host of other releases by JADE WARRIOR, JANSEN, BARBIERI, KARN & many > others. Also in jazz circles Theo Travis is a well known and respected > musician and over the years he has won many awards. In 1997 he toured Japan > with Mick Karn, Steve Jansen, Richard Barbieri and DJ Krush. The other half > of Cipher is Dave Sturt who was an original member of the ambient group JADE > WARRIOR. Dave Sturt has also written music for film and TV. Theo plays > soprano sax, alto flute, piano, keyboards & samples while Dave Sturt plays > fretless bass, programming, samples & loops. The music on "No Ordinary Man" > is made up of ambient soundscapes. Other people who contribute are Richard > Barbieri on electronics & keyboards (2 tracks), Steven Wilson on guitar & > treatments (2 tracks) & Rabbi Gaddy Zerbib on vocals on 1 track. This is > music to play on a hot summers day with an ice cold drink while sitting on > your patio and should also interest those who like the BASS COMMUNION style > atmospherics, although I personally thing this is far better than the two > Bass Communion releases. > > *********************************** > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > If you wish to be removed from this mailing list, send an email to: > majordomo at cranium.co.nz with the words unsubscribe newsletter > in the email body (not subject). > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > This mailing list is owned by Cranium Music - http://www.cranium.co.nz, and > is maintained by webmaster at cranium.co.nz . > We use Majordomo, version 1.94.3. > From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Fri Jan 7 19:48:52 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 01:48:52 +0100 Subject: HW:Therimin Message-ID: I had a VCS-3,once in my lifetime,sold it some 15 years ago,stupid me and I can say fairly how the Hawks made there space sounds in those early days.Simple of 2 facts,firstly it's a horribly machine and secondly it's a fantastic machine.Now how come:IT CAN'T KEEP TUNE.It doesn't have a keyboard,you can buy one with it but what's the point if you point any note on your keyboard and it isn't the note you want.And there's were Hawkwind comes in. They took it as an advantige (sorry my language,I'm not english) and used it like barbarians,like often said in intervieuws. Nowdays Dave Brock sampled those sounds into his machines and uses then live,I think,almost certain as there's no way and even foolish to get those things on the road as for a vintage VCS-3 now you pay a fortune (foolish me again). Now for the "audio-generator" is really the heart of a synthesizer but it has voltage control.What does this mean? The "generator/occilator" has a voltage to it so he can point it to a note (or anything else for that matter),otherwise it's just a machine for electro-technicians with some sound coming out. I know I'm talking jibberish now but if some of you are willing to know more you can contact me or go to some websites with old synthesizers. As far as I know the Hawks never ever used a Therimin as it's a whole other concept and they never even may of heard of it in those early days.A very effective use of the Theremin is used in "Good Vibrations" of the Beach Boys and that's not really the sound of Hawkwind or is it ? Any replies or conquests ? Filip Hawknut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Fri Jan 7 20:48:08 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 02:48:08 +0100 Subject: HW: CDs spotted locally Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Jarrett To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 1:34 AM Subject: HW: CDs spotted locally > Dear All, > spotted in my local 2nd-hand shop, whilst buying Pink > Fairies self-titled and Man's _Maximum Darkness_ on vinyl, the following > in the CD racks, which I believe person or persons various were after at one > point or another: Castle Masters Collection (really this time, Jill), and > _Glastonbury 1990_ (was it Bernhard having trouble finding this?) Anyway, > if anyone would like me to pick these up for them mail me and we can > arrange it. Yours, > Jon Well Jon, Wouldn't mind that Castle Masters Collection myself,please contact me,I'm probably to late but anyhow Filip Hawknut From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Fri Jan 7 22:58:31 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:58:31 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Festivals Message-ID: What's this "Hawkwind Festivals" on Mission Control, sez: "soon to be released" Hawkman www.intplsrv.net/hawkman From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Sat Jan 8 00:16:15 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:16:15 -0600 Subject: HW: CDs spotted locally Message-ID: >Wouldn't mind that Castle Masters Collection myself,please contact me,I'm >probably to late but anyhow > >Filip Hawknut Hawkman Music www.intplsrv.net/hawkman From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat Jan 8 09:09:59 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:09:59 +0100 Subject: Theremin Message-ID: Sorry about last night for the mentioning of the "Good Vibrations". 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I have searched numerous websites, both big CD spaces (such as CD Now/Amazon) and ones run by some of the listees here, and I can't find it at all. It is one of my fav HW albums, but the copy I had was in my Discman when it was stolen a bit ago. Any help would be appreciated, Dave From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jan 8 17:34:06 2000 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:34:06 -0000 Subject: HW: QS&C Message-ID: I've got an original vinyl Q,S & C but unfortunately it's not for sale. The Cd was in MVC (a non-virtual shop) the other week I don't know if they have got a web site. Still lurking Doc -----Original Message----- From: dhuggins To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 08 January 2000 20:13 Subject: HW: QS&C >HW Listees: > > Does anyone know where I can find the original (or even the Griffin book/boxed >set) CD of Quark, Strangeness, and Charm? I have searched numerous >websites, both big CD spaces (such as CD Now/Amazon) and ones run by some >of the listees here, and I can't find it at all. > > It is one of my fav HW albums, but the copy I had was in my Discman when >it was stolen a bit ago. > > Any help would be appreciated, > > > Dave From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Jan 8 17:42:53 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:42:53 -0000 Subject: HW: QS&C In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000108151123.02f44810@pop.dn.net> Message-ID: It's well and truly out of print right now, but there's murmurs from Doug about a reissue sometime this year. Not sure about when or on what label yet, though. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of dhuggins > Sent: 08 January 2000 20:12 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: HW: QS&C > > > HW Listees: > > Does anyone know where I can find the original (or even > the Griffin book/boxed > set) CD of Quark, Strangeness, and Charm? I have searched numerous > websites, both big CD spaces (such as CD Now/Amazon) and ones run by some > of the listees here, and I can't find it at all. > > It is one of my fav HW albums, but the copy I had was in > my Discman when > it was stolen a bit ago. > > Any help would be appreciated, > > > Dave > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 9 10:12:27 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:12:27 -0000 Subject: Synths: Tim Blake and EMS Message-ID: Tim Blake used to demonstrate EMS synths prior to his joining Gong. You can still get new EMS synths (and they have a web-site), but they cost! I last had my hands on one in 1979. I was going to buy a Mini-Moog but decided to hang off, by that point prices were inflating. I ended up buying a Pro-One (a monophonic version of the Prophet) - was this the last analogue mono synth produced? - the Mini-Moog was gone by this point replaced by the, digital, Moog-Source. The Pro-One still sounds good (****ing brilliant actually); but one day I will buy that EMS..............and mellotron! Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chrisr at TIAC.NET Sun Jan 9 14:17:00 2000 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:17:00 -0500 Subject: HW: QS&C Message-ID: On ebay right now they have both vinyl and CD formats of Quark, Strangeness and Charm. Chris dhuggins wrote: > HW Listees: > > Does anyone know where I can find the original (or even the Griffin book/boxed > set) CD of Quark, Strangeness, and Charm? I have searched numerous > websites, both big CD spaces (such as CD Now/Amazon) and ones run by some > of the listees here, and I can't find it at all. > > It is one of my fav HW albums, but the copy I had was in my Discman when > it was stolen a bit ago. > > Any help would be appreciated, > > Dave From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Sun Jan 9 16:09:55 2000 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:09:55 +0100 Subject: HW:Just to say hello from Filip Hawknut from Gent Belgium In-Reply-To: <000c01bf52f9$8f1f7100$60a408d4@d8o7x0> Message-ID: Hi Filip, Welcome to the digital age... Did loose your addres a good while ago and would like to thanks you for the info you did send me. --BArt From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Sun Jan 9 16:09:55 2000 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:09:55 +0100 Subject: HW: QS&C In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000108151123.02f44810@pop.dn.net> Message-ID: Try http://elcheapo.nl an excellent site for searchin about ten different (smaller, NL and Belgium based) online shops. You should find about 15 cd's with prices. --BArt From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jan 9 19:26:07 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:26:07 +0000 Subject: HW; Glastonbury 1990 Message-ID: Dear All, having picked up a copy of the above on the request of Carl, and given it a tentative spin, I have to say that, yes, the quality isn't great, but blimey they were on fire that gig weren't they? Great performance, saving only Bridget who sounds rather too much like a Speak'n'Spell at some points (though I like her reciting voice). Also, this copy and the other I saw have correct tracklists on the back, so I assume Voiceprint caught up with that error quite quickly. I imagine the ones with it wrong will now be ten times as Collectable... Yours, Jon n/p Ozric Tentacles - _There is Nothing_ -- /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | =====================================================================| |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| \______________________________________________________________________/ From chip at PCC.COM Mon Jan 10 09:20:38 2000 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:20:38 -0500 Subject: Lemmy/Hawkwind Update Message-ID: For those who didn't see it. > Date: January 7, 2000 > From: acetrump at bigfoot.com > Subject: OS: The Grammys > > Greetings Fellow Motorheadbangers!! > > Well, the big news this week is that Motorhead has been nominated for a > Grammy. Yup, you heard right... there is irony here though... it is for > their cover of Metallica's Enter Sandman. Sigh. > [much deleted] > > I also had the chance to talk to Lemmy a few days ago and he gave me the > run down on current events. First, he has finished the album of old Rock > 'n' Roll covers he did with Slim Jim. I am not sure of the release date, > but it will be soon. Tracks include covers of songs by Buddy Holly, Elvis, > Johnny Cash, Jimmy Reed and others. Lemmy also spent New Years Eve > slamming out about 10 songs at L.A.'s fmous Cat Club on the strip with Slim > Jim and Danny, running through some of the tracks that will appear on the > CD. > > It also looks like the Hawkwind reunion is a go. It is scheduled to happen > in March 2000 and Lemmy said that he is definitely in, barring any > unforeseen complications. I do not have any sort of tour dates or details > yet, but as soon as I do, you will get them. > > That is about it for now brothers and sisters. Talk to you next week! > > Ace Trump > http://www.imotorhead.com > ICQ: 6055706 > > HAIG DEMARJIAN > > > > DIE YOU ZOMBIE BASTARDS! > Pre-Production HQ for 1999 > c/o Glow Muse > 210 Main Street > Gloucester, MA 01930 > phone/fax: 978-281-8936 > > check out ZOMBIE BASTARDS! online at... > > http://www.gis.net/~haigd > > ...and... TELL YOUR FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!!!! > > -- Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com Physician's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip 1 Main Street * Work:800-722-7708 Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: 802-846-8178 From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Mon Jan 10 09:46:58 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:46:58 -0600 Subject: HW: QS&C Message-ID: >On ebay right now they have both vinyl and CD formats of Quark, Strangeness and Charm. No, that's the EP (on CD) that's listed HM From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jan 10 15:36:28 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:36:28 -0000 Subject: OFF Re good bands? Message-ID: If you don't already know, the crew from 'Later...' are asking: "Who would like to see on the next series and what would you ask them? Email your questions to later at bbc.co.uk" From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Jan 10 08:04:13 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:04:13 -0500 Subject: HW; Glastonbury 1990 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 00.26 +0000 00-01-10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > Also, this copy and the other I saw have correct tracklists on >the back, so I assume Voiceprint caught up with that error quite quickly. >I imagine the ones with it wrong will now be ten times as Collectable... Or maybe the corrected ones will be rarer ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Jan 11 09:54:35 2000 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:54:35 -0500 Subject: tBS: Website Address Message-ID: In the furvor of upgrading my computer at work, I lost my bookmarks. Would some kind soul send my the web address to the Brain Surgeons website so that I may order some tBS tunage. Thanx From Modulus6bass at AOL.COM Tue Jan 11 11:08:25 2000 From: Modulus6bass at AOL.COM (Mark Stears) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:08:25 EST Subject: tBS: Website Address Message-ID: Unless something has changed, The Official Brain Surgeons Website was down for reconstruction. Suggest you try the following which has link to Cellsum Records online catalog: The Brain Surgeons Post-Op Mark From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Tue Jan 11 15:55:59 2000 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:55:59 -0000 Subject: HW: No mail for ages Message-ID: Sorry to use this as a test, but we have received no mail for ages! Everything hectic here, rehearsals for NZ underway. I have asked for ticket booking numbers and prices, as soon as I receive a reply, I'll post them here. Kris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Tue Jan 11 16:00:34 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:00:34 +0100 Subject: test Message-ID: test, please ignore From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jan 12 01:59:04 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:59:04 -0500 Subject: HW: Another cover Message-ID: Hi Folks... http://www.audiogalaxy.com/bands/rubycon/ If anyone is still out there compiling Hawkwind cover tunes, here's a band that has a cover of Children of the Sun on the web as an MP3. That's all... Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Note that one member's name is Doug Smith!! P.P.S. These guys are from Tulsa, OK. I'd never heard of them before today. Stephan...this is your territory....ever heard of 'em? From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Tue Jan 11 16:51:26 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:51:26 -0600 Subject: HW : Jewel Cases Message-ID: Hiya, ya'll folks `n neighbors! I found a place that sells those good jewel cases with the 2 long vertical bars on the door. The ones that protect the booklet better than the 2 nubs that dig into it. I just ordered 400 (2 boxes) and it cost something like $ 77 Thats without the trays. With is probably more. (I don't know if you have to be a business or order by the box) El Mar Plastics 1-800-255-5210 I think they're in San Dimas, California (CA) The case type is called "bar structure" The trays are called "12 legged spider tray" Hawkman From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Wed Jan 12 03:32:39 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:32:39 -0600 Subject: HW: Another cover Message-ID: >P.P.S. These guys are from Tulsa, OK. I'd never heard of them before >today. Stephan...this is your territory....ever heard of 'em? No sir. Tulsa is 4 hours away. OKC is 2.5 hours from here. I'm in the middle of no where. I will try to check them out and find out more. A band called Nubula Trip contacted me recently. I checked out some tunes they have on their web site, and they sound pretty good after just one quick listen. Watch for them on the "More Space Music" page on Hawkman Music SS From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jan 12 07:18:26 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:18:26 EST Subject: HW: Another cover//NEBULA TRIP Message-ID: In a message dated 1/12/00 3:32:34 AM, spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET writes: << A band called Nebula Trip contacted me recently. I checked out some tunes they have on their web site, and they sound pretty good after just one quick listen. Watch for them on the "More Space Music" page on Hawkman Music >> ======== tis them behind the MANDELBROT SETS FESTIVAL in e. hartford ct. 6/30-7/1... bands including themselves, born to go, alien planetscapes, and ours truly... Nebula Trip Page "<>" From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jan 12 09:04:50 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:04:50 -0500 Subject: HW : Jewel Cases Message-ID: >Hiya, ya'll folks `n neighbors! > > I found a place that sells those good jewel cases >with the 2 long vertical bars on the door. The ones that >protect the booklet better than the 2 nubs that dig into it. I can't imagine why anyone would want jewel cases. Mine go in the garbage can as soon as I get the wrapper off and put the CD and booklet (and back) into one of my vinyl holders... About the only one I kept was the Nik Turner 'Past or Future' because you needed it's funky front to see the changing image on the cover. "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Wed Jan 12 10:30:19 2000 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie)) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:30:19 +0100 Subject: HW: bootleg madness Message-ID: Hi, I saw this on EBAY cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=233563378 It is a bootleg of the SD 98 concert. I suggest that everyone with a CD burner (i'm sorry, still haven't got one) downloads the MP3 files and makes a bootleg of it. Burn a max. of lets say 25. Load the CD's up to EBAY, and see if there are any ****ers who by this kind of crap. :-) You would certainly make *my* day. --BArt From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jan 12 10:39:47 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:39:47 -0000 Subject: HW : Jewel Cases In-Reply-To: <200001121404.JAA17474@issfire2.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: > About the only one I kept was the Nik Turner 'Past or Future' > because you needed it's funky front to see the changing image > on the cover. Kraftwerk's new "Expo 2000" single has the same idea, with a funky op-art pattern. Well groovy! -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Wed Jan 12 10:07:38 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:07:38 -0600 Subject: HW : Jewel Cases Message-ID: From: Andrew A. Apold >I can't imagine why anyone would want jewel cases. Mine go in >the garbage can as soon as I get the wrapper off and put the >CD and booklet (and back) into one of my vinyl holders... Reasons FOR Jewel Cases: 1) Easy to handle - Don't have to open a 50 pound book. 2) Door opens fast - CD retrieval is fast. 3) Drop a CD, and yeah, it will probably break - But Art work is never damaged. 4) Drop your 50 pound book, and that might make you cry 5) Harder for a thief to steal, with all those loose, slippery Jewel cases. 6) Easier to keep in Chronological or Alphabetical order, when adding new CD's to collection. 7) They remind me more of the Albums I once had. :))) Reason for not having them -- Fire! Those babies will burn like the dickens ! ! I'll take my chance !! Hawkman From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Jan 12 11:14:13 2000 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:14:13 -0000 Subject: HW : Jewel Cases Message-ID: So does The Damned's "I'm All Right Jack & the Beanstalk" -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham [mailto:Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM] Sent: 12 January 2000 15:40 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW : Jewel Cases > About the only one I kept was the Nik Turner 'Past or Future' > because you needed it's funky front to see the changing image > on the cover. Kraftwerk's new "Expo 2000" single has the same idea, with a funky op-art pattern. Well groovy! -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From micci at SCI.FI Wed Jan 12 11:49:03 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:49:03 +0200 Subject: HW: bootleg madness Message-ID: Hi! >I saw this on EBAY > >cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=233563378 > >It is a bootleg of the SD 98 concert. I suggest that everyone with a >CD burner (i'm sorry, still haven't got one) downloads the MP3 files >and makes a bootleg of it. Burn a max. of lets say 25. Load the >CD's up to EBAY, and see if there are any ****ers who by this kind >of crap. It seems that this is from Ande Tucker production! Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jan 12 11:48:43 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:48:43 PST Subject: HW : Jewel Cases Message-ID: >I can't imagine why anyone would want jewel cases. Apart from the reasons mentioned earlier......mainly because when you click them in and out of the jewel case, they don't get scratched like when they're being pulled in and out of the vinyl covers. chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jan 12 14:17:18 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:17:18 -0500 Subject: HW : Jewel Cases Message-ID: > Reasons FOR Jewel Cases: > > 1) Easy to handle - Don't have to open a 50 pound book. > 2) Door opens fast - CD retrieval is fast. > 3) Drop a CD, and yeah, it will probably break - But Art work is never > damaged. > 4) Drop your 50 pound book, and that might make you cry > 5) Harder for a thief to steal, with all those loose, slippery Jewel cases. > 6) Easier to keep in Chronological or Alphabetical order, when adding new > CD's to > collection. > 7) They remind me more of the Albums I once had. :))) 1 - I usually plan my vinyl cases (which I doubt are even 2 pounds), so I leave blanks in them for CDs I'm missing. The miscellaneous ones eventually get organized. 2 - I hate those doors. They always break, even when I don't drop them. 3 - I ruined a perfectly good Bau Haus CD by scratching it on the case while taking it out once. 4 - (shrug). Never noticed anything happen to my vinyl cases. I usually chuck them in the back of my truck without difficulty. 5 - I can hide one case easier than 20 jewel cases. 6 - at home, I mainly listen with my massive collection of MP3's I've scratched from my CDs. Only time I use the CDs themselves is in my car. It's far easier for me to reach back and grab a case then get what I want than be limited to the seven cds my armrest tray will hold or blindly grope around in the back... 7 - well, even there, we're at a loss. We'll never get the same cool fold out effects. The one with Stacia jumping on the back, the effect of opening OYFOOYK and seeing the 5 guitars leap out at ya, etc. I know they sometimes try, long booklets, or fold out things (like SEE), or even tricky folding parts like The Business Trip... (which, BTW, I lost the cardboard "H" on TBT, the upper parts of it were pretty fragile) The albums that I get in the cardboard things like The Business Trip or Captured Rotation I keep, pretty much have no choice. But that's not too many, and they tuck neatly inside the sleeves at the front or back of my (caselogic) vinyl cases. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Jan 12 20:57:16 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:57:16 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-lists 1/6/00 and 1/8/00 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINAMP : 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. 1/6 Architectural Metaphor--Waterwheel (Odysseum Galacti) Ozric Tentacles--Xingu (Waterfall Cities) Amon Duul II--Restless Skylight-Transistor-Child (Tanz der Lemminge) Chrome--Pygmies in Zee Park (Alien Soundtracks) Blue Oyster Cult--Before the Kiss, a Redcap (BOC) Melting Euphoria--Celestial Hysteria (Inside the Gardens of the Mind) Re-count--Oasi (Amberdelic Space vol. 2 comp) Coil--Nasa Arab (Space Daze comp) Quarkspace--In the Shadows (Hidden Moon) Hawkwind--Be Yourself (Hawkwind) Porcupine Tree--Moonloop (Stars Die EP edit) Hawklords--Time of... (Space Box comp) Pseudo Sun--The Future Rears its Ugly Head (Future Memoirs) Sundial--Fly Into the Sun (Live Drug) F/i--Aum (Out of Space and Out of Time) Nik Turner--Weighing of the Heart and Negative Confession (HW's Lord of Light or Turner's Sonic Attack 2000) Ashra Tempel--Schwingungen: a. Suche b. Liebe (Schwingungen) 1/8 Faust--Krautrock (IV) Alien Planetscapes--Radiation King (Life on Earth) Amorphis--Levitation (My Kantele) Hawkwind--Motorhead (Acid Daze/Anthology) Guillotine--Bring Down the Curtain (Bring Down the Curtain) Dr. Know--Ice House (Burn 7") F/i--Helioscopium (Helioscopium) Sky Cries Mary--Back to the Sea (Exit at the Axis EP) The New York Room--Les Portes du Ciel (The Colour of Midnight, thanks to St Thomas) Residents--Walrus Hunt (Eskimo) Chrome--Antifade (Subterranean Modern) Eclipse--Longitudes (Amberdelic Space vol. 2 comp) Amorphous Androgynous--Swab (Tales of Ephidrina) Nik Turner--God Rock (Sphynx) Farflung--Greater Waters (25, 000 Ft per Second) Man--Prelude/The Storm (2 Oz's of Plastic w/a Hole in the Middle) Gong--A Sprinkling of Clouds (You) Quarkspace--Astral Grinder (Hidden Moon) Hawkwind--Assassins of Allah/Space is Their Palestine/Assassins (Strange Daze '97 comp) Hawkwind--We Do It (Masters of the Universe ) The Orb--A Huge Ever-growing Pulsating Brain that Rules from the Centre of the Ultraworld (Loving U) (Live '93) Thanks, Chuck From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Jan 12 21:07:41 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:07:41 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawkwind at Strange Daze 98 MPEG audio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a reply to a fairly old post, but...... > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Paul Mather > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 8:52 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind at Strange Daze 98 MPEG audio > > > On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Michael Habiby wrote: > > => Attention: > => > => As it is not copyrighted this concert has been posted to > => alt.binaires.sounds.MP3.bootlegs and cross posted in ....1970's, ... > > So does this mean we can expect to see _Masters of the Universe '98_ on > some obscure Italian label appear in the Codex in the near future? ;-) No, I guess we see "Starfire Mountain Dreaming" on eBay....... > (Actually, the concert must be copyrighted by someone [the person who > recorded it]; I just don't know by whom! Someone uploaded it to my FTP > site, and I just moved it to the download area as a service to BOC-L > folks. I sincerely hope it doesn't end up as a bootleg as a result.) Too late (see above). I haven't heard this file yet, but from the tracklist, it sounds like what I recorded on my MiniDisc recorder (and shared semi-widely). If it IS from my recording, during the warm-up which I called "Intro" you can hear Bob Lennon's son saying "Kevin....Kevin" near the vicinity of my microphone. > Cheers, > > Paul. > > NP: Cephas and Wiggins, _Dog Days of August_ > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." > --- James Marshall Hendrix > Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Jan 12 07:51:33 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:51:33 -0500 Subject: tBS: Website Address In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 11.08 -0500 00-01-11, Mark Stears wrote: > Unless something has changed, The Official Brain Surgeons Website was down >for reconstruction. The one that Tania Ruiz put up a long while ago now lost its home and is looking for a new one. John Swartz has a tBS site, though ... doesn't he? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Jan 12 22:21:04 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:21:04 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind at Strange Daze 98 MPEG audio In-Reply-To: <000001bf5d6a$f8de54a0$36730918@chnd1.az.home.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Kevin Sommers wrote: => > On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Michael Habiby wrote: => > => As it is not copyrighted this concert has been posted to => > => alt.binaires.sounds.MP3.bootlegs and cross posted in ....1970's, ... => > => > So does this mean we can expect to see _Masters of the Universe '98_ on => > some obscure Italian label appear in the Codex in the near future? ;-) => No, I guess we see "Starfire Mountain Dreaming" on eBay....... => > (Actually, the concert must be copyrighted by someone [the person who => > recorded it]; I just don't know by whom! Someone uploaded it to my FTP => > site, and I just moved it to the download area as a service to BOC-L => > folks. I sincerely hope it doesn't end up as a bootleg as a result.) => Too late (see above). It's sad to see my prophecy come true. :-( But, the best way to deal with this is to point out to eBay that the auction in question is selling a bootleg item and they will yank it. If the seller persists in auctioning bootlegs, eBay will end up banning him or her from selling on eBay. People on the Gov't Mule list, for example, get rogue Gov't Mule items removed from eBay all the time. EBay are very receptive to policing illegal items, apparently, because they are very self-conscious about maintaining a good public image. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Modulus6bass at AOL.COM Wed Jan 12 22:41:11 2000 From: Modulus6bass at AOL.COM (Mark Stears) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:41:11 EST Subject: tBS: Website Address Message-ID: The website you are referring to is at the link I posted Mark From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Jan 12 22:42:42 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:42:42 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawkwind at Strange Daze 98 MPEG audio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry, but I can't agree with the sentiment here. I like bootlegs. There, I said it. The pros and cons of them have been debated widely, and kind of like religion or politics, debates generally probably won't make people change their minds. I have bought boots on eBay (not Hawkwind, but others) and hopefully will continue to do so. I don't buy boots unless I like the band enough to have most (or all) of their official stuff already. Now about religion....... Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Paul Mather > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 8:21 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind at Strange Daze 98 MPEG audio > > > On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Kevin Sommers wrote: > > => > On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Michael Habiby wrote: > > => > => As it is not copyrighted this concert has been posted to > => > => alt.binaires.sounds.MP3.bootlegs and cross posted in > ....1970's, ... > => > > => > So does this mean we can expect to see _Masters of the > Universe '98_ on > => > some obscure Italian label appear in the Codex in the near > future? ;-) > => No, I guess we see "Starfire Mountain Dreaming" on eBay....... > > => > (Actually, the concert must be copyrighted by someone [the person who > => > recorded it]; I just don't know by whom! Someone uploaded > it to my FTP > => > site, and I just moved it to the download area as a service to BOC-L > => > folks. I sincerely hope it doesn't end up as a bootleg as a result.) > => Too late (see above). > > It's sad to see my prophecy come true. :-( But, the best way to deal > with this is to point out to eBay that the auction in question is > selling a bootleg item and they will yank it. If the seller persists in > auctioning bootlegs, eBay will end up banning him or her from selling on > eBay. > > People on the Gov't Mule list, for example, get rogue Gov't Mule items > removed from eBay all the time. EBay are very receptive to policing > illegal items, apparently, because they are very self-conscious about > maintaining a good public image. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Jan 12 23:02:05 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:02:05 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind at Strange Daze 98 MPEG audio In-Reply-To: <000201bf5d78$3edd1c40$36730918@chnd1.az.home.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Kevin Sommers wrote: => Sorry, but I can't agree with the sentiment here. I like bootlegs. There, => I said it. The pros and cons of them have been debated widely, and kind of => like religion or politics, debates generally probably won't make people => change their minds. I have bought boots on eBay (not Hawkwind, but others) => and hopefully will continue to do so. I don't buy boots unless I like the => band enough to have most (or all) of their official stuff already. Well, my response wasn't really about bootlegs per se (I have 'em too), but more of a response to earlier messages (and an erroneous perception of your own message) about how best to remove bootleg auctions from eBay. I have to admit, I'm a bit tempted to e-mail the current high bidder and let them know that instead of paying $45, they can download MPEG audio of the show (maybe even the same source as used for the CD-R) for free via anonymous FTP. >;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Jan 12 23:48:02 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:48:02 -0700 Subject: tree In-Reply-To: <386AB9D1.A280AA9D@uswest.net> Message-ID: The JPEGs of the front and back covers of "Hawkwind - On The Edge Of A Millennium" are available for download. There are links on my home page (http://members.home.net/novadrive/), or directly from here: http://www.members.tripod.com/NovaDrive/HW99front.jpg and http://www.members.tripod.com/NovaDrive/HW99back.jpg . They are just over 500KB each. I tried zipping them, but the file size reduction was minimal, so I just left them as is. If anyone wants a better quality (i.e., larger file) JPEG, e-mail me privately and let me know how big of a file you want. Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Dan Witt > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 6:48 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: HW:tree > > > I am now ready to accept responses from people who are intrerested in > the tree for the Milton Keynes show. Please send me a PRIVATE email > indicating your interest. Also let me know if you can burn cdrs, if you > can burn cdrs let me know if you can do perfect dae and burn 80 min cdrs > if neccessary. I will accept email regarding tree interest from now > (12/29/99) until 01/06/2000. I will formulate a tree out of the > interested people and post a structure when complete. > From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Thu Jan 13 03:16:36 2000 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 01:16:36 -0700 Subject: tree Message-ID: Kevin: Who do I send blank(s) to?? I hate to admit to having lost touch on this:) What a beautiful job you've done on these covers! WoW! Looking forward to hearing this! Rock on! Pam Kevin Sommers wrote: > The JPEGs of the front and back covers of "Hawkwind - On The Edge Of A > Millennium" are available for download. There are links on my home page > (http://members.home.net/novadrive/), or directly from here: > http://www.members.tripod.com/NovaDrive/HW99front.jpg and > http://www.members.tripod.com/NovaDrive/HW99back.jpg . They are just over > 500KB each. I tried zipping them, but the file size reduction was minimal, > so I just left them as is. If anyone wants a better quality (i.e., larger > file) JPEG, e-mail me privately and let me know how big of a file you want. > > Kevin Sommers > > primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > > < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Dan Witt > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 6:48 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > > Subject: HW:tree > > > > > > I am now ready to accept responses from people who are intrerested in > > the tree for the Milton Keynes show. Please send me a PRIVATE email > > indicating your interest. Also let me know if you can burn cdrs, if you > > can burn cdrs let me know if you can do perfect dae and burn 80 min cdrs > > if neccessary. I will accept email regarding tree interest from now > > (12/29/99) until 01/06/2000. I will formulate a tree out of the > > interested people and post a structure when complete. > > -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Message-ID: In message , Andy Gilham writes >> About the only one I kept was the Nik Turner 'Past or Future' >> because you needed it's funky front to see the changing image >> on the cover. > >Kraftwerk's new "Expo 2000" single has the same idea, with a funky op-art >pattern. Well groovy! Sounds a bit Herbie Hanccock, though, eh? -- Jon From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jan 13 06:24:28 2000 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:24:28 -0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: Vote now folks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "neil price" To: Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 9:57 AM Subject: Glasto > Hi Neil, get on the Glasto site and vote for Hawkwind :- > www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/ > and tell as many people as poss cos your'e only allowed 1 vote. > Cheers, Neil. > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Jan 13 09:04:57 2000 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:04:57 -0500 Subject: BRAIN: tBS Website Address Message-ID: > > Unless something has changed, The Official Brain Surgeons Website was down > >for reconstruction. > > The one that Tania Ruiz put up a long while ago now lost its home and > is looking for a new one. John Swartz has a tBS site, though ... > doesn't he? > Yep, and as someone posted, the URL is: http://members.aol.com/tbspostop I always considered my site sort of second fiddle to Tania's (which was dubbed, most rightfully so, as the Official Site) - which was sort of reflected in my site's name "The Post-Op" (a post-op is where you go after the surgeon operates on you, so my site was where you went after going to the official site -- thinking back on that later, the analogy probably wasn't always clear to people...). Hopefully Tania's site will be back someday (she did tell me at one point that she still has all the files). The most significant changes to the Post-Op in recent months is the addition of news on "Piece of Work" - there's one or 2 reviews up now (with another one coming soon that Deb posted on AOL), and also I have removed the RealAudio files and replaced them with 4 MP3 samples of tunes from PoW (each sample runs about a minute in length). I'm hoping to get some more space on AOL in the future to put MP3 samples of songs from previous albums again (of course, finding time to do all of this would help too...). John PS: First snow in Boston in over 300 days - and everyone forgot how to drive in the stuff... From clemens at TRAIL.COM Thu Jan 13 09:56:16 2000 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:56:16 -0700 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: hawkwind now has an 8 vote lead over the rolling stones... Mark From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 13 10:20:02 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:20:02 GMT Subject: HW: Hawkwind at Strange Daze 98 MPEG audio In-Reply-To: Kevin Sommers's message of Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:07:41 -0700 Message-ID: Kevin Sommers writes: > > (Actually, the concert must be copyrighted by someone [the person who > > recorded it]; I just don't know by whom! Someone uploaded it to my FTP > > site, and I just moved it to the download area as a service to BOC-L > > folks. I sincerely hope it doesn't end up as a bootleg as a result.) > Too late (see above). > I haven't heard this file yet, but from the tracklist, it sounds like what I > recorded on my MiniDisc recorder (and shared semi-widely). If it IS from my > recording, during the warm-up which I called "Intro" you can hear Bob > Lennon's son saying "Kevin....Kevin" near the vicinity of my microphone. Yep, that's on the MP3 stuff dowloaded from Paul's site. Note also that there's a "stutter" fault at aroun 5.07 minutes in the "Wheels" track. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 13 10:27:52 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:27:52 GMT Subject: HW: Hawkwind at Strange Daze 98 MPEG audio In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:02:05 -0500 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: > On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Kevin Sommers wrote: > > => Sorry, but I can't agree with the sentiment here. I like bootlegs. There, > => I said it. The pros and cons of them have been debated widely, and kind of > => like religion or politics, debates generally probably won't make people > => change their minds. I have bought boots on eBay (not Hawkwind, but others) > => and hopefully will continue to do so. I don't buy boots unless I like the > => band enough to have most (or all) of their official stuff already. > > Well, my response wasn't really about bootlegs per se (I have 'em too), > but more of a response to earlier messages (and an erroneous perception > of your own message) about how best to remove bootleg auctions from > eBay. > > I have to admit, I'm a bit tempted to e-mail the current high bidder and > let them know that instead of paying $45, they can download MPEG audio 45 Dollars???? Sod it. The minute I get my outstanding stuff for Bernhard and Dan Witt sorted out for the '99 tour tree (now thankfully in progress) I'm gonna make a WAV CD from the MP3's on Paul's site. A third of that price would still cover costs and a little time. I'm not as against bootlegs as I am repeated reissue of the Dave Anderson stuff but I am against complete ripoffs. > Paul. FoFP From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Thu Jan 13 10:36:23 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:36:23 -0500 Subject: Glastonbury vote now! In-Reply-To: <000a01bf5db8$c10d4060$0e01a8c0@tnt2> Message-ID: Hawkwind has 13 and Marillion has 268? Geeze how embarrasing. Mike -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Neil Ward Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 6:24 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! Vote now folks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "neil price" To: Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 9:57 AM Subject: Glasto > Hi Neil, get on the Glasto site and vote for Hawkwind :- > www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/ > and tell as many people as poss cos your'e only allowed 1 vote. > Cheers, Neil. > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jan 13 10:41:18 2000 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:41:18 -0000 Subject: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: And B*witched has 25... Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael S. Habiby To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Glastonbury vote now! > Hawkwind has 13 and Marillion has 268? Geeze how embarrasing. > > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Neil Ward > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 6:24 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! > > > Vote now folks! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "neil price" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 9:57 AM > Subject: Glasto > > > > Hi Neil, get on the Glasto site and vote for Hawkwind :- > > www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/ > > and tell as many people as poss cos your'e only allowed 1 vote. > > Cheers, Neil. > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 13 11:14:55 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:14:55 GMT Subject: Glastonbury vote now! In-Reply-To: Michael S. Habiby's message of Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:36:23 -0500 Message-ID: Michael S. Habiby writes: > Hawkwind has 13 and Marillion has 268? Geeze how embarrasing. 14 now! C'mon guys, get moving... FoFP From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jan 13 11:35:27 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:35:27 PST Subject: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: >Hawkwind has 13 and Marillion has 268? Geeze how embarrasing. Yeah, what's with that? Marillion have the most amount of votes over everyone. That is a very very very very scary thing. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Thu Jan 13 11:55:14 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:55:14 -0600 Subject: HW: $tarry $tarry Night Message-ID: I'm the guilty one for running up the price. But I've got this sickness for getting anything that has Hawkwind written on it. (You can write Hawkwind on the side of a beer can, and I'll buy it from you). All I mean't to do, was just bump up the price a little. But I kept getting these messages "Someone Has Outbid You" ...and my eyes started to get red....my blood pressure began to rise...."How dare someone outbid me ! !" Then I smacked myself after 45 bucks and said "Get hold of yourself - Boy" Let him have it. You can get it on the web, and Dave ain't in it ! It ain't HW W/O Dave. I agree with Kevin.... ($) (!) ($) I could be retired by now.... :))) Hawkman From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Thu Jan 13 12:22:37 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:22:37 -0600 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Stephan Spiegel To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Date: Thursday, January 13, 2000 10:34 AM Subject: Re: HW: Glastonbury vote now! >get on the Glasto site and vote for Hawkwind :- >>> www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/ >>> and tell as many people as poss cos your'e only allowed 1 vote. > > >Ah Ha ! But there is a way to vote more than once.... >Just delete your "temp internet files" >and go back... (which you should do often, anyway) > >simple > >HAWKman > From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Jan 13 12:25:06 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:25:06 -0500 Subject: Glastonbury vote now! In-Reply-To: <20000113163527.76402.qmail@hotmail.com>; from beautiful_foot@HOTMAIL.COM on Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 08:35:27AM -0800 Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 08:35:27AM -0800, Horse Whisperer wrote: > >Hawkwind has 13 and Marillion has 268? Geeze how embarrasing. Gaining fast: less than an hour later, it's 22 and 268. > Yeah, what's with that? Marillion have the most amount of votes over > everyone. That is a very very very very scary thing. Guess their mailing list found out about it first... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 13 12:37:47 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:37:47 GMT Subject: HW: $tarry $tarry Night In-Reply-To: Stephan Spiegel's message of Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:55:14 -0600 Message-ID: Stephan Spiegel writes: > I'm the guilty one for running up the price. > But I've got this sickness for getting anything > that has Hawkwind written on it. (You can > write Hawkwind on the side of a beer can, and > I'll buy it from you). All I mean't to do, was just > bump up the price a little. But I kept getting > these messages "Someone Has Outbid You" > ...and my eyes started to get red....my blood > pressure began to rise...."How dare someone > outbid me ! !" Yeah, I have the same virus. I remember once being in a pub and bidding in an auction for the "Watchfield and Stonehenge/Live and Kicking" LP, with a deadline at midnight. I'd phone up and be told I'd been outbid and would raise the ante. Finally I got it at 80 quid. Of course what I don't know is whether the seller was simply upping the ante to see how far I'd go... > Then I smacked myself after 45 > bucks and said "Get hold of yourself - Boy" > Let him have it. You can get it on the web, I'll definitely have this on CD in the run doing the '99 tree stuff for Dan and Bernhard. That'll be after I get back from Switzerland and so should be by the end of the month (no, really this time, all the hardware is set up). > and > Dave ain't in it ! It ain't HW W/O Dave. Some tracks aren't half bad though: Assault & Battery/Golden Void/ Spirit of the Age/ Brainstorm/In Your Area. FoFP From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Thu Jan 13 12:56:19 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:56:19 -0600 Subject: HW tree (read if on the tree) Message-ID: Here is the structure for the tree. There were many people who could not easily burn cds or thought they may have trouble burning cds, so there are many leaves. Leaves; YOU are responsible for contacting your branch and working out a trade for your copy of the show (whatever trade you can work out, maybe video if you can't do cdr). There will be no sales of the show, if you have nothing to trade then you must send your branch a self addressed stamped padded envelope and 2 blank cdrs(your branch will use this to get you the show). Branches are not expected to cover leaves postage or cd costs unless there is an actual trade, so make sure you include the proper postage for your branch to mail you the cds. Branches; please contact me(unless I already have your address). I need your address so I can get out your copy of the show. The show is two discs, both about 73 minutes, you can see the track list on the artwork at kevin sommer's sight. http://members.home.net/novadrive/ This is where you can download and print out the artwork for the show. -----------------------tree Branches listed like this. Leaves listed like this. ------------------------USA and Canada------------------- Paul Mather Paul Mather Stephen Lindsey Pam Wheaton Bryan Young Darrin Mckeehen dmckeehen at hotmail.com Marshall Wood Mark Licht Frank Weil Kevin Sommers Kevin Sommers Doug Bates Doug Pearson Chuck "Captain Cloud" Eric Siegerman Chris Raymond ---------------------------UK------------------- Andre cosmos Dennis Regenbrecht Ian Abrahams Jeremy Dacombe Alasdair Macdonald "Alasdair Macdonald" Nick Lee Merrick French David Greenhalgh Si Halley "Si Halley" Geoff Wright David Hall I tried to pair up people on the same side of the ocean, if I made a mistake please send me a private email right away, thanks. Happy trading. From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Jan 13 12:51:02 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:51:02 -0700 Subject: HW: $tarry $tarry Night In-Reply-To: <200001131737.RAA20635@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > > Then I smacked myself after 45 > > bucks and said "Get hold of yourself - Boy" > > Let him have it. You can get it on the web, > > I'll definitely have this on CD in the run doing the '99 tree stuff for > Dan and Bernhard. That'll be after I get back from Switzerland and so > should be by the end of the month (no, really this time, all the > hardware is set up). > > > and > > Dave ain't in it ! It ain't HW W/O Dave. > > Some tracks aren't half bad though: Assault & Battery/Golden Void/ > Spirit of the Age/ Brainstorm/In Your Area. > > FoFP ...but then there's "Space Is Deep." Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Thu Jan 13 13:01:49 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:01:49 -0500 Subject: HW tree (read if on the tree) In-Reply-To: <387E11C3.EFD60F0A@uswest.net> Message-ID: Color me ignorant. I have a CDR What show and can I be of help? Michael S. Habiby Happy trading. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jan 13 13:53:29 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:53:29 EST Subject: HW: Hawkwind at Strange Daze 98 MPEG audio Message-ID: hi gang, here's some observations from a fellow rather closely associated w/Strange Daze, heh. ===== DASLUD at aol.com wrote: > hi jim > i know not to bomb you w/stuff, but thot this subject might have interest... > "<>" ==== <> ========== slander administered, doc. and there thou goest. "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jan 13 14:07:02 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:07:02 EST Subject: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: In a message dated 1/13/00 12:25:22 PM, erics at TELEPRES.COM writes: << On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 08:35:27AM -0800, Horse Whisperer wrote: > >Hawkwind has 13 and Marillion has 268? Geeze how embarrasing. Gaining fast: less than an hour later, it's 22 and 268. >> ========= as of my vote 1405 pm, they've got 32 "<>" From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jan 13 15:03:38 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:03:38 -0000 Subject: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: >as of my vote 1405 pm, they've got 32 Its 35 now, and I've told some friends! Nick From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Jan 13 15:36:36 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:36:36 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawkwind at Strange Daze 98 MPEG audio In-Reply-To: <9c.e7c3a5.25af7929@aol.com> Message-ID: As I've mentioned to others, I think this may be a copy of my recording (which I've shared, and Jim does have a copy), only because it has my "titles" for the tune-up ("Intro") and opening jam ("Control"). I haven't heard this, but it's mine if during "Intro" you can hear Bob Lennon's son saying "Kevin.......Kevin..." as he was near my microphone. Now, when I say "mine" I'm being very loose; I don't mean to imply copyright, ownership, or anything of the sort. I will say, somewhat proudly, that for an audience recording, it sounds damn good. If it's "mine." Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of DASLUD at AOL.COM > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 11:53 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind at Strange Daze 98 MPEG audio > > > hi gang, > here's some observations from a fellow rather closely associated > w/Strange > Daze, heh. > > ===== > DASLUD at aol.com wrote: > > > hi jim > > i know not to bomb you w/stuff, but thot this subject might > have interest... > > "<>" > ==== > < > My only concern was that a guy by the name of Gene Dulyn taped > the show with > some pretty pro equipment and promised Hawkwind and me that we would get > copies > of it. It was pretty good too. He knew what he was doing! But he > never gave it > to us and hasn't been returning our phone calls. I would only get > pissed if > this > was his tape surfacing. Not just because someone was selling it, > but because > we > didn't get a copy of it first. That's the least someone could do > for us if we > are nice enough to let all this recording go on without hassling people! > > The ease that which things can be recorded and duplicated in this Age of > Information makes all the old copyright laws archaic and > obsolete. The only > people that can or REALLY should be chased down about it would be > any "officia > l" > company that would manufacture and put out thousands of these in the open > market. > > The occasional fan/concert taper who can find a sucker to pay this kind of > money > for a marginal to shitty recording with no high fidelity is just lucky! > > I already wrote the man and his name is Ande Tucker. He said that > he doesn't > really know the origin of the tape??? I have asked him to burn a > copy and send > it to me so I can see if this could be Gene Dulyn's tape. He > hasn't yet wrote > me > back that he would. I'm waiting to hear from him. > > Feel free to slander the mother f*cker (Gene Dulyn, not Ande > Tucker) on the > BOC-L. > > Jim>> > ========== > slander administered, doc. > > and there thou goest. > > "<>" > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jan 13 15:51:54 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:51:54 -0500 Subject: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: On Glasters... >>as of my vote 1405 pm, they've got 32 > >Its 35 now, and I've told some friends! 37...still climbing. OK, who's the wise guy who wrote in Alien Planetscapes?! Don't you know they have a date in Connecticut just three or four days later? Silly idea! On the subject of summer festivals, has anyone noticed the announcement on Jim Lascko's www.strange-trips.com page? I'm not exactly sure what it all means, but apparently two weekends' activities are merged together. The Strange Daze music aspect and then some 'Freedom Festival' sponsored by NORML. Makes no difference to me, really, esp. if more folks are brought in to hear the bands that wouldn't normly have come otherwise. But I hope Jerry and I don't get kicked out of our prime real estate under the tent! :) Well, whatever, the indication seems to be that Jim's at least planning to have it back at the Ledges again this year. I'm happy about that personally, although *I* haven't had any trouble with campsite assignments, police harrassment, etc. But I wonder if we could somehow get them to divert that stupid road in front of the stage and plant some frickin' grass there. Well anyway, I hope things turn out well for Jim this year, and he doesn't end up having bands stiff him again. Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Is the Conn. thing June 30-July 1, or July 1-2? I've seen it listed both ways. From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jan 13 16:11:19 2000 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:11:19 -0000 Subject: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: 2114 It's up to 38 let's get moving guys Doc -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 13 January 2000 20:53 Subject: Re: Glastonbury vote now! >On Glasters... > >>>as of my vote 1405 pm, they've got 32 >> >>Its 35 now, and I've told some friends! > >37...still climbing. > >OK, who's the wise guy who wrote in Alien Planetscapes?! Don't you know >they have a date in Connecticut just three or four days later? Silly idea! > >On the subject of summer festivals, has anyone noticed the announcement on >Jim Lascko's www.strange-trips.com page? I'm not exactly sure what it all >means, but apparently two weekends' activities are merged together. The >Strange Daze music aspect and then some 'Freedom Festival' sponsored by >NORML. Makes no difference to me, really, esp. if more folks are brought in >to hear the bands that wouldn't normly have come otherwise. But I hope >Jerry and I don't get kicked out of our prime real estate under the tent! :) > >Well, whatever, the indication seems to be that Jim's at least planning to >have it back at the Ledges again this year. I'm happy about that >personally, although *I* haven't had any trouble with campsite assignments, >police harrassment, etc. But I wonder if we could somehow get them to >divert that stupid road in front of the stage and plant some frickin' grass >there. > >Well anyway, I hope things turn out well for Jim this year, and he doesn't >end up having bands stiff him again. > >Keith H. (FAA) > >P.S. Is the Conn. thing June 30-July 1, or July 1-2? I've seen it listed >both ways. From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jan 13 17:10:18 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:10:18 -0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: err - where do you vote - been on the link ?????? From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jan 13 17:41:07 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:41:07 +0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: Neil Ward wrote: > > Vote now folks! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "neil price" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 9:57 AM > Subject: Glasto > > > Hi Neil, get on the Glasto site and vote for Hawkwind :- > > www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/ > > and tell as many people as poss cos your'e only allowed 1 vote. > > Cheers, Neil. I just tried the above address and all I got was an intro page last updated 5 January saying that there was a technical problem with the vote. However after doing a search of the website I found another intro page updated on 12 January with voting capability. Hawkwind now have 42 votes - nearly 2% of total! This address should work: http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/index.shtml jill ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Jan 13 18:03:00 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:03:00 -0500 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! In-Reply-To: <387E5483.F09403D4@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 10:41:07PM +0000 Message-ID: So who, may I ask, are Marvin Patchwork and the Stealth Lewis Band -- and why have 16 people voted for them?!? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Jan 13 18:31:57 2000 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:31:57 -0500 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! In-Reply-To: <387E5483.F09403D4@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: Hello #45! Although Aerosmith was tempting... :-P >I just tried the above address and all I got was an intro page last >updated 5 January saying that there was a technical problem with the >vote. However after doing a search of the website I found another intro >page updated on 12 January with voting capability. Hawkwind now have >42 votes - nearly 2% of total! > >This address should work: > > http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/index.shtml > >jill > >====================================================================== >Jill Strobridge or >J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk >====================================================================== From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jan 13 18:37:49 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:37:49 -0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: found it now tells me I've already voted grumble grumble so I cleared my temporary internet files and is still tells me I've already voted grumble grumble T From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jan 13 19:03:31 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:03:31 +0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! In-Reply-To: <005b01bf5e12$fae50ac0$5d14883e@timsteph> Message-ID: 48 now!! And I see Born To Go have 3 votes!!!! ChrisW Just Played:Jan Garbarek/Rites "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From chrisr at TIAC.NET Thu Jan 13 20:23:41 2000 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:23:41 -0500 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: Hawkwind is listed twice - one says 50 votes and the other one 3. The second Hawkwind is near the end of the list. Chris From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jan 13 21:18:46 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:18:46 -0500 Subject: HW: $tarry $tarry Night In-Reply-To: <001d01bf5dea$1cdc6700$3ca3bcd0@hawkwind> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Stephan Spiegel wrote: => I'm the guilty one for running up the price. => But I've got this sickness for getting anything => that has Hawkwind written on it. (You can => write Hawkwind on the side of a beer can, and => I'll buy it from you). Oh, did I mention I have the extra special "mispressing" limited edition of that very same bootleg? Mine has the exclusive "spelling mistake" version of the track list! ("Starfire Mountain Dreaming" is misspelled as "Starfire Mountain Deraming.") This is EXREMELY LIMITED. (The word "HAWKWIND" even glows when you hold it at the right angle.) Nobody else has this. You NEED it. And it can be YOURS for the right price (oh, and as soon as it finishes burning and the injet finishes spewing out that special limited edition artwork;)... => All I mean't to do, was just => bump up the price a little. But I kept getting => these messages "Someone Has Outbid You" => ...and my eyes started to get red....my blood => pressure began to rise...."How dare someone => outbid me ! !" Then I smacked myself after 45 => bucks and said "Get hold of yourself - Boy" => Let him have it. You can get it on the web, and => Dave ain't in it ! It ain't HW W/O Dave. Well, it seems from the bidding history that you bumped it up to $45 (your final bid being $44). The poor sod who bought it took it with a "winning bid" of $51. Add to that the $3.20 in S&H, and it's his (or hers) for the bargain price of only $54.20... for an audience recording of a SINGLE CD!! Who said crime doesn't pay?... >;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG Fri Jan 14 05:36:16 2000 From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG (Olivier Boigey) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:36:16 +0200 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting Message-ID: There is a cookie file (in your browser's settings) to be deleted in order to vote again, and again... BTW, the Marillion fan club is far in avance!! Olivier _/_/_/__/___/_/___/__/_/_/_/ Olivier Boigey mailto:olivier_boigey at technolink.org http://www.bwaje.claranet.fr _/_/_/__/___/_/___/__/_/_/_/ - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). From ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO Fri Jan 14 05:22:25 2000 From: ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO (Ketil Svendsen) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:22:25 +0100 Subject: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: 61+5 ...they are - by some obscure reason - mentioned twice in the list... i won't be able to see them (as usual), but i posted my vote - cuddling my glastonbury fayre 3LP fondly ;-) oh, and cheers! ketil svendsen, norway > Subject: Re: Glastonbury vote now! > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:14:55 GMT > From: M Holmes > > Michael S. Habiby writes: > > > Hawkwind has 13 and Marillion has 268? Geeze how embarrasing. > > 14 now! C'mon guys, get moving... > > FoFP > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Fri Jan 14 06:17:28 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:17:28 -0600 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: >so I cleared my temporary internet files >and is still tells me I've already voted >grumble grumble OK, well the way I did it was to go into Explorer When it comes up, highlight C: drive RIGHT click on the highlighted C: drive When menu comes up, scroll to the very bottom Click (Left) on Properties Then click on "Tools" Click on "Disc Clean-Up" This will clear your temp internet files (all 4 folders of them) and any other stuff, besides the cookies you have to manually delete these from explorer Try that and see what happens. Log off the internet each time, also, don't stay connected. Hawkman From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jan 14 06:22:46 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 06:22:46 EST Subject: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: In a message dated 1/13/00 3:51:49 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: << P.S. Is the Conn. thing June 30-July 1, >> ============ this is the current mandelbrot configuration. ^_~ "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jan 14 06:25:11 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 06:25:11 EST Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: Festival Voting Booth here's where you'd vote.... "<>" From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 14 09:24:23 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:24:23 GMT Subject: HW tree (read if on the tree) In-Reply-To: Dan Witt's message of Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:56:19 -0600 Message-ID: Dan Witt writes: > Here is the structure for the tree. There were many people who could not > easily burn cds or thought they may have trouble burning cds, so there > are many leaves. Nice work. I've already sent out my own burn of Milton Keynes to Bernhard as part of the previously arranged exchange. I'd like a copy of your one though - I really like Kev's cover. I can probably knock out a couple of copies for folks, but best not overload on this as I still have to do the tour compilation. I'm at: 15/12 Duncan Street Newington Edinburgh EH9 3EE Scotland. Let me know of whatever arrangements suit. I'll be away until the 22nd... Cheers and well done on the MK CDs! Mike From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Jan 14 09:31:09 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:31:09 -0500 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: If the spelling is the same, they will likely be combined. I cast a vote from home, and will probably be able to cast 9 more from the computers I use at work. When I voted it was at 33 (after my vote.) Ron -----Original Message----- From: Chris Raymond To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Thursday, January 13, 2000 8:31 PM Subject: Re: HW: Glastonbury vote now! >Hawkwind is listed twice - one says 50 votes and the other one 3. The >second Hawkwind is near the end of the list. >Chris From clemens at TRAIL.COM Fri Jan 14 09:39:14 2000 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:39:14 -0700 Subject: HW: $tarry $tarry Night Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Stephan Spiegel wrote: => I'm the guilty one for running up the price. => But I've got this sickness for getting anything => that has Hawkwind written on it. (You can => write Hawkwind on the side of a beer can, and => I'll buy it from you). Do you prefer Bud or Coors? Discounts on 6-packs... The other Mark L. From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Jan 14 11:34:43 2000 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:34:43 +0800 Subject: HW Remix CD? Message-ID: Hi all Saw this on the RPM Records page... http://www.rpmrecords.com/ Hawkwind- Hawkwind Remix Project / Contemporary remixes of 10 classic tunes by the world's premier space rock group via an army of eclectic artists, including Wire's Colin Newman, Matt Wand, John Avery, Kumo, and Nadine...........$19.99 Anyone know something about it? Is it similar to, and (hopefully) better than Ritual of the Solstice? William From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jan 14 12:46:06 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:46:06 -0500 Subject: HW: audio interview... Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just happened to pass by this page for an old 70s radio program in Chicago, that claims to have a bunch of interviews on tape. Hawkwind is among them. It says they plan to start offering the audio for download (only two are available now), and I thought maybe with some encouragement from us, perhaps they'd put Hawkwind up at the top of the list to prepare. I gather from the photo that this interview might have been done in 1977 (or was it 1978?), literally hours before the final Hawkwind concert when they broke up. [The Spirit of the Age performance (IIRC pretty good, but for the feedback problems) on F&R II is from this gig, is that right? Does all of this concert exist?] Looks like Brock/Calvert/King/Shaw?/Swindells? lineup in that bad photo. If so, it might be an interesting interview to hear, just before things came to a head. Simon H. would have just quit days before, and Calvert must have been off in his own world, and with only a single sword (right, Bill?). http://pages.ripco.net/~saxmania//triadinterviews.html Keith H. (FAA) From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Fri Jan 14 13:02:34 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:02:34 -0600 Subject: HW tree (read if on the tree) Message-ID: Hi Mike, I'll try to see that you get a copy somehow. The tree is kind of finalized, so I really just can't add to that. Maybe I can get you a copy in a week or so, then you could send me a copy of the croydon gig when you get that done. Dan Witt 705 13th Avenue South St. Cloud, MN 56301 USA M Holmes wrote: > > Dan Witt writes: > > > Here is the structure for the tree. There were many people who could not > > easily burn cds or thought they may have trouble burning cds, so there > > are many leaves. > > Nice work. I've already sent out my own burn of Milton Keynes to > Bernhard as part of the previously arranged exchange. I'd like a copy of > your one though - I really like Kev's cover. > > I can probably knock out a couple of copies for folks, but best not > overload on this as I still have to do the tour compilation. > > I'm at: > > 15/12 Duncan Street > Newington > Edinburgh EH9 3EE > Scotland. > > Let me know of whatever arrangements suit. I'll be away until the > 22nd... > > Cheers and well done on the MK CDs! > > Mike From micci at SCI.FI Fri Jan 14 13:28:55 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:28:55 +0200 Subject: NIK:5.15 Message-ID: Hi! Last night 5.15 with Nik Turner gig was absolutely magnificent. Very good hard rock and Nik?s sax was great! There was film team too, so now we have to only wait when it?s come out. I met Andy Gilham (Hi!) there, so he can write better raport. Over and out. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jan 14 13:31:51 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:31:51 -0500 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting In-Reply-To: <1723068382.91728369@technolink.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Olivier Boigey wrote: => There is a cookie file (in your browser's settings) to be deleted in order to => vote again, and again... => BTW, the Marillion fan club is far in avance!! Odd, but I voted using the Lynx browser, which doesn't support cookies (or at least allows you to reject them), and it wouldn't let me vote again. (I was able to vote once.) It may actually be that they are keeping track of IP addresses of voters, and disallowing votes if your IP address is already on file. So, those people who are behind proxies are screwed, and those who get a dynamic IP address (e.g., via DHCP) may be able to vote many times. That's just a guess, though. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From andy.gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jan 14 13:46:40 2000 From: andy.gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:46:40 GMT Subject: NIK: Helsinki Message-ID: Made it here to see Nik guesting with Finnish band Five-Fifteen last night (thanks Miikka!) Great stuff - 5:15 started their set maybe a bit nervously due to the immense TV presence (it's going to be shown on TV here in April), but as soon as Nik arrived everyone relaxed and it was a great show! Set finished with "Hassan I sahba" and "Silver Machine", dead good versions of both. Nik as usual didn't want to stop playing and continued with unaccompanied (well, hand-clapping and some singalong) of "Master of the Universe" and "Brainstorm", all three verses of each, despite a cut lip. A true star!Great aftershow party too! :)) PS I've two copies of 5:15's single of "Silver Machine" featuring Nik. Maybe I'll run a competition... :) -- Andy From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Jan 14 15:10:39 2000 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:10:39 EST Subject: HW: audio interview... Message-ID: In a message dated 1/14/00 12:46:16 PM EST, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: << Simon H. would have just quit days before, and Calvert must have been off in his own world, and with only a single sword (right, Bill?). >> Thats right. They did 5 or 6 shows in the NY/NJ area. They lost S House after the Bottom Line shows along with the sword. It was a short tour-- about 12 dates. It was the first time we got to see Bob Calvert in the states. I saw about 6 of these shows and they were awesome!! Regards, Bill Stewart From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Fri Jan 14 15:25:14 2000 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:25:14 +0100 Subject: HW: audio interview... Message-ID: Bill Stewart wrote: > > Thats right. They did 5 or 6 shows in the NY/NJ area. They lost S House > after the Bottom Line shows along with the sword. It was a short tour-- > about 12 dates. It was the first time we got to see Bob Calvert in the > states. I saw about 6 of these shows and they were awesome!! But what was so depressive/negative/etc. during the tour that the band disbanded shortly thereafter and Dave sold his guitar after the last gig? What was/were the actual cause(s) for the band to break apart? greetings from outer space D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Jan 14 15:44:52 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:44:52 GMT Subject: Glastonbury vote now! Message-ID: Hello everyone I've just voted, HW are currtently on 76 + 6 nearly 3%! not bad at all when you look the results so far. Mick. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Jan 14 16:25:54 2000 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:25:54 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind in NZ Message-ID: Attention all Mothership crew!! We need as much help as possible promoting and advertising this NZ tour. We need people to bill post, get in touch with local radio, press etc. Anyone out there willing to help? Get in touch HW PS It looks like we will be doing a few Australian gigs, Happy Valley festival 18th or 19th Feb (about 1 hour from Sydney) The Metro in Sydney 24th Feb More to be confirmed. We are having problems with booking agencies in NZ. Hopefully it will be sorted and tickets will be on sale next week, else it will be tickets on the door, but we are definitely coming! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Jan 14 16:43:56 2000 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:43:56 -0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury Message-ID: I got a vote yesterday, then again today???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt_wh at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jan 14 20:34:52 2000 From: matt_wh at HOTMAIL.COM (Matt Whitehead) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:34:52 CST Subject: HW: 3 virgin cds for auction at yahoo (ASAM, QSC, PXR5) Message-ID: Found this on the Yahoo auction site: Hawkwind "PXR5" http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/15527972 Hawkwind "Quark Strangeness & Charm" http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/15527798 Hawkwind "Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music" http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/15528169 No reserve, but opening bid is at $30 each. Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Fri Jan 14 21:22:58 2000 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:22:58 -0500 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think that may be the case. I looked at all the files that were modified when I voted (all netscape), and replaced them all, to no avail (not much into cheating, but got me really curious as to HOW they were keeping track). Dave At 01:31 PM 1/14/00 -0500, you wrote: >On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Olivier Boigey wrote: > >=> There is a cookie file (in your browser's settings) to be deleted in >order to >=> vote again, and again... >=> BTW, the Marillion fan club is far in avance!! > >Odd, but I voted using the Lynx browser, which doesn't support cookies >(or at least allows you to reject them), and it wouldn't let me vote >again. (I was able to vote once.) > >It may actually be that they are keeping track of IP addresses of >voters, and disallowing votes if your IP address is already on file. >So, those people who are behind proxies are screwed, and those who get a >dynamic IP address (e.g., via DHCP) may be able to vote many times. > >That's just a guess, though. > >Cheers, > >Paul. > >e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > >"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG Sat Jan 15 05:01:11 2000 From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG (Olivier Boigey) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:01:11 +0200 Subject: HW: audio interview... In-Reply-To: <200001141745.MAA04700@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: In message ID <200001141745.MAA04700 at mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> on 14/01/0, BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List wrote: BDL> Hi Folks... BDL> BDL> Just happened to pass by this page for an old 70s radio program BDL> in Chicago, that claims to have a bunch of interviews on tape. BDL> Hawkwind is among them. It says they plan to start offering the BDL> audio for download (only two are available now), and I thought BDL> maybe with some encouragement from us, perhaps they'd put BDL> Hawkwind up at the top of the list to prepare. BDL> BDL> I gather from the photo that this interview might have been done BDL> in 1977 (or was it 1978?), literally hours before the final BDL> Hawkwind concert when they broke up. [The Spirit of the Age BDL> performance (IIRC pretty good, but for the feedback problems) on BDL> F&R II is from this gig, is that right? Does all of this concert BDL> exist?] Looks like Brock/Calvert/King/Shaw?/Swindells? lineup in BDL> that bad photo. If so, it might be an interesting interview to BDL> hear, just before things came to a head. Simon H. would have BDL> just quit days before, and Calvert must have been off in his own BDL> world, and with only a single sword (right, Bill?). This is funny, as I've just found (on an old tape) a radio interview of Dave and Bob which could be the same; They were promoting the Quark album at that time. I was ready to put it on Hawkzone web site, but will wait if they remain identical. Olivier _/_/_/__/___/_/___/__/_/_/_/ Olivier Boigey mailto:olivier_boigey at technolink.org http://www.bwaje.claranet.fr _/_/_/__/___/_/___/__/_/_/_/ - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Sat Jan 15 04:19:33 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 03:19:33 -0600 Subject: HW: audio interview... Message-ID: All I get is a JPG when I click on Hawkwind How are you supposed to hear this interview? SS -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 11:54 AM Subject: HW: audio interview... >Hi Folks... > >Just happened to pass by this page for an old 70s radio program in Chicago, >that claims to have a bunch of interviews on tape. Hawkwind is among them. >It says they plan to start offering the audio for download (only two are >available now), and I thought maybe with some encouragement from us, perhaps >they'd put Hawkwind up at the top of the list to prepare. > >I gather from the photo that this interview might have been done in 1977 (or >was it 1978?), literally hours before the final Hawkwind concert when they >broke up. [The Spirit of the Age performance (IIRC pretty good, but for the >feedback problems) on F&R II is from this gig, is that right? Does all of >this concert exist?] Looks like Brock/Calvert/King/Shaw?/Swindells? lineup >in that bad photo. If so, it might be an interesting interview to hear, just >before things came to a head. Simon H. would have just quit days before, >and Calvert must have been off in his own world, and with only a single >sword (right, Bill?). > >http://pages.ripco.net/~saxmania//triadinterviews.html > >Keith H. (FAA) From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Sat Jan 15 08:00:57 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 08:00:57 -0500 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting Message-ID: I think you are right. So I will only get to vote once at work. But if you release your IP address and grab a new one... RonJ -----Original Message----- From: Paul Mather To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: Re: HW : Glastonbury voting >On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Olivier Boigey wrote: > >=> There is a cookie file (in your browser's settings) to be deleted in order to >=> vote again, and again... >=> BTW, the Marillion fan club is far in avance!! > >Odd, but I voted using the Lynx browser, which doesn't support cookies >(or at least allows you to reject them), and it wouldn't let me vote >again. (I was able to vote once.) > >It may actually be that they are keeping track of IP addresses of >voters, and disallowing votes if your IP address is already on file. >So, those people who are behind proxies are screwed, and those who get a >dynamic IP address (e.g., via DHCP) may be able to vote many times. > >That's just a guess, though. > >Cheers, > >Paul. > >e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > >"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Sat Jan 15 08:09:41 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 08:09:41 -0500 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting Message-ID: Confirmed- The site keeps track by IP address. Vote, go offline, release IP address, login again, vote, etc. But too many votes stacked in a short period will likely set off alarms, I would guess.. Cookies are irrelevant, because I NEVER accept cookies. "I'm sorry, but someone with the IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx has already voted. Please click back." Rj From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat Jan 15 08:21:34 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:21:34 +0100 Subject: NIK: Helsinki Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Gilham To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:46 PM Subject: NIK: Helsinki > Made it here to see Nik guesting with Finnish band Five-Fifteen last night (thanks > > Miikka!) > > Great stuff - 5:15 started their set maybe a bit nervously due to the immense > > TV presence (it's going to be shown on TV here in April), but as soon as Nik > > arrived everyone relaxed and it was a great show! Set finished with "Hassan > > I sahba" and "Silver Machine", dead good versions of both. Nik as usual didn't > > want to stop playing and continued with unaccompanied (well, hand-clapping and > > some singalong) of "Master of the Universe" and "Brainstorm", all three verses > > of each, despite a cut lip. A true star!Great aftershow party too! :)) > > PS I've two copies of 5:15's single of "Silver Machine" featuring Nik. Maybe > > I'll run a competition... :) > > -- Andy Hello Andy, Wouldn't mind a copy of the 5:15 "silver machine". Name your prize,please. Filip Hawknut From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Jan 15 10:23:00 2000 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:23:00 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind in NZ In-Reply-To: <006e01bf5ed6$0cb712c0$5ae593c3@default> Message-ID: Hi I'd love to help get the band to Perth in some way? William -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of XXX Sent: Saturday, 15 January 2000 5:26 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW: Hawkwind in NZ Attention all Mothership crew!! We need as much help as possible promoting and advertising this NZ tour. We need people to bill post, get in touch with local radio, press etc. Anyone out there willing to help? Get in touch HW PS It looks like we will be doing a few Australian gigs, Happy Valley festival 18th or 19th Feb (about 1 hour from Sydney) The Metro in Sydney 24th Feb More to be confirmed. We are having problems with booking agencies in NZ. Hopefully it will be sorted and tickets will be on sale next week, else it will be tickets on the door, but we are definitely coming! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat Jan 15 10:45:11 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 10:45:11 -0500 Subject: NIK: Helsinki In-Reply-To: <387f6f10.5e4.0@btinternet.com> Message-ID: At 18.46 +0000 00-01-14, Andrew Gilham wrote: >PS I've two copies of 5:15's single of "Silver Machine" featuring Nik. Maybe >I'll run a competition... :) Hell, I'd kill for this. Is there a mail order source? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Jan 15 15:33:43 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 20:33:43 -0000 Subject: HW: Shameless Self Promotion Message-ID: Just in case anyone is looking to buy CDs, my Hawkwind Shop is now on-line. Go to: http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk and click on the Hawkwind logo. Your shamefacedly trying to earn a living. Stuart NP Ambient Anarchists - yours to buy from $11.45:-) Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground E-zine, freezine and online Record Store http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Jan 15 15:33:43 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 20:33:43 -0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 2000 Message-ID: Sneaked in a few votes, and the last time I looked HW were in 8th place with 80 votes! Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground E-zine, freezine and online Record Store http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Jan 15 16:28:36 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:28:36 -0500 Subject: HW: audio interview... Message-ID: SS asked... >All I get is a JPG when I click on Hawkwind >How are you supposed to hear this interview? > >>Just happened to pass by this page for an old 70s radio program in Chicago, >>that claims to have a bunch of interviews on tape. Hawkwind is among them. >>It says they plan to start offering the audio for download (only two are >>available now), and I thought maybe with some encouragement from us, >>perhaps they'd put Hawkwind up at the top of the list to prepare. You're supposed to read what I wrote more carefully! :) When I said two were available, neither of those were Hawkwind...hence my suggestion to try to encourage them to put HW on the top of the list to create soundfiles of. There are lots of names there, and so it could be years otherwise. So, duh, you're not supposed to hear the interview at this particular time! Keith H. (FAA) From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat Jan 15 16:47:28 2000 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:47:28 -0500 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting In-Reply-To: <003a01bf5f59$ce293b80$4287a4d8@sprawl> Message-ID: Pardon my streak of honesty here but are we not an organized and potent enough force without "cheating". I think the festival would like one vote one person. Flame me if I am being whiney. Mike PS this comment is NOT directed to Rj or anyone else in particular. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Sprawl Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 8:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW : Glastonbury voting Confirmed- The site keeps track by IP address. Vote, go offline, release IP address, login again, vote, etc. But too many votes stacked in a short period will likely set off alarms, I would guess.. Cookies are irrelevant, because I NEVER accept cookies. "I'm sorry, but someone with the IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx has already voted. Please click back." Rj From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Jan 15 17:09:23 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:09:23 -0500 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting Message-ID: >Pardon my streak of honesty here but are we not an organized and potent >enough force without "cheating". I think the festival would like one vote >one person. Flame me if I am being whiney. Well, this entire process is rather a joke. The voters are going to be dominated by those who have been encouraged to do so by others that like the same band. Hardly a statistically representative sample. Only the few that trickle in randomly for other purposes are going to be 'unbiased.' So of course, Eric was right and the Marillion/Fish list got 'hold of the idea first. This is the ole WMMS trick (Ick! I lived in Cleveland for 5 years...never ever listened to it.) So what the hell difference does it make...the only thing I see is that the people running the vote can tell how many fans are networked together for any particular group (and how clever they are). Then that *might* be a proxy for how many are likely to take the effort to travel 1000 miles to Glasters to see that group. Any true band popularity rating culled from this would be worthless. Note that the Porcupine Tree list is down for maintenance right now...I don't think they have a single vote, do they? I don't think there's any law against cheating on Internet polls, is there? As long as you don't mention Columbine High School. We have 10-12 computers here at the office, of course with 10-12 different IP addresses. Should I vote on all of them? That's my final answer, Regis...Keith H. (FAA) P.S. I'm guessing that *all* of the bands are effectively 'write-ins', as they just keep adding on more and more. Who the hell is Morecheeba? From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat Jan 15 17:15:01 2000 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:15:01 -0500 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting In-Reply-To: <200001152204.RAA15368@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Point taken. vote early vote often. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of K Henderson Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 5:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW : Glastonbury voting >Pardon my streak of honesty here but are we not an organized and potent >enough force without "cheating". I think the festival would like one vote >one person. Flame me if I am being whiney. Well, this entire process is rather a joke. The voters are going to be dominated by those who have been encouraged to do so by others that like the same band. Hardly a statistically representative sample. Only the few that trickle in randomly for other purposes are going to be 'unbiased.' So of course, Eric was right and the Marillion/Fish list got 'hold of the idea first. This is the ole WMMS trick (Ick! I lived in Cleveland for 5 years...never ever listened to it.) So what the hell difference does it make...the only thing I see is that the people running the vote can tell how many fans are networked together for any particular group (and how clever they are). Then that *might* be a proxy for how many are likely to take the effort to travel 1000 miles to Glasters to see that group. Any true band popularity rating culled from this would be worthless. Note that the Porcupine Tree list is down for maintenance right now...I don't think they have a single vote, do they? I don't think there's any law against cheating on Internet polls, is there? As long as you don't mention Columbine High School. We have 10-12 computers here at the office, of course with 10-12 different IP addresses. Should I vote on all of them? That's my final answer, Regis...Keith H. (FAA) P.S. I'm guessing that *all* of the bands are effectively 'write-ins', as they just keep adding on more and more. Who the hell is Morecheeba? From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jan 15 19:03:54 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:03:54 -0000 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting Message-ID: >Pardon my streak of honesty here but are we not an organized and potent enough force without "cheating". < S'more fun this way though isnt it? Anyway I didnt get to vote at all (mumble grumble) T From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jan 15 19:09:55 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:09:55 -0000 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting Message-ID: >. Note that the Porcupine Tree list is down for maintenance right now...I don't think they have a single vote, do they?< I sorta didnt bother mentioning this before, but if I had of been able to vote I was going to vote for PT :-() T From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Sat Jan 15 23:52:41 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 22:52:41 -0600 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting Message-ID: >>Pardon my streak of honesty here but are we not an organized and potent >enough force without "cheating". S'more fun this way though isnt it? >Anyway I didnt get to vote at all Someone "voted" for you, then.... !!! I voted for a few of my friends. Absentee Votes ! ! ! SS From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Sat Jan 15 23:58:30 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 22:58:30 -0600 Subject: HW: audio interview... Message-ID: >>All I get is a JPG when I click on Hawkwind >>How are you supposed to hear this interview? >You're supposed to read what I wrote more carefully! :) >When I said two were available, neither of those were Hawkwind...hence my >suggestion to try to encourage them to put HW on the top of the list to >create soundfiles of. There are lots of names there, and so it could be >years otherwise. >So, duh, you're not supposed to hear the interview at this particular time! Excuse me for being stoned. SS From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Sun Jan 16 00:20:51 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:20:51 -0600 Subject: HW: Shameless Self Promotion Message-ID: >Just in case anyone is looking to buy CDs, my Hawkwind Shop is >now on-line. (Hawkwind CD Search Engine) Everything at Hawkman Music is in stock >Go to: http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk and click on the Hawkwind >logo. >Your shamefacedly trying to earn a living. Problem with on-line stores is, you don't know what's in stock and what's not. Like the last Griffin Catalog I got last week. Half the titles in the catalog are out of print. But they JUST PRINTED the catalog ! ! Let me let you-all in on a little secret - - Your not gonna find any of the One Way stuff. Or half the stuff listed in the Amazon.com catalog. So you can look endlessly, or go to Hawkman Music and get it today. Still the Best.... Hawkman www.intplsrv.net/hawkman From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Sun Jan 16 05:22:46 2000 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 02:22:46 -0800 Subject: HW: news clipping from St.Louis, circa "Space Ritual" Message-ID: Hi, these were emailed to me about 2 years ago, and they sat for a long time on my hard drive while my webpage lived with a broken link for the same period of time. They're finally up, so thanks again to the kind Hawkwind fan who sent them along to me. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6568/hawkmisc.html I've also just finished making my own copy of the "Starfire Mountain Dreaming" bootleg, and I tried to fix that "stutter" error on Wheels. Congratulations on a fine-sounding audience recording! Good work. I do think we should pick a better name, though. Who is that guy on ebay who called it "Starfire Mountain Dreaming"? Nice artwork, but the name doesn't do justice to the particulars of the event (a hawkwind gig without Dave). I really love the line that Richard yells "We are the Ones who are Left!" Is that too long to use for a good bootleg title? Also, the last track "Brainstorm" includes a portion of Rizz's "Hawkwind In Your Area", so that should probably be listed. I'd emailed Dan Witt about his tree, so I'm hoping that I can be involved in that when it gets going, so maybe we'll all get a nice copy of this bootleg in the future. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Young CANADA blyoung AT bigfoot DOT com ----------------------------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/Area51/7118 SF Reading Club http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6568 Hawkwind ----------------------------------------------------------- "20 minutes goes by pretty fast when you're on a breakaway" From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sun Jan 16 05:29:49 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:29:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Live79complete. It's from... Message-ID: Hello folks After several hours of comparing the existing tapes from the 1979 tour with the "Live79complete" CD (thanks Rainer W. for this hard work) we know now that this CD is from the following gig: - London, Hammersmith Odeon, 01.December 1979 There is ABSOLUTELY no doubt!!! Only SHOT DOWN IN THE NIGHT is from the well known St.Albans gig (08.December 1979/LIVE79) cheers Bernhard From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sun Jan 16 05:46:37 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:46:37 -0000 Subject: Radio Free Kansas adds Psychedelic/Rare Garage Mp3 channel Message-ID: Hope everybody is doing well in the new year.. For the last month or so I've been programming four new Mp3 channels of music. The newest is our Psychedelic, Rare Garage and Classic Rock Mp3 channel. You'll hear some cool rare garage music including some from here in Kansas in the late 60's. Provided you have one of the free mp3 players such as Winamp, Real Player 7 or MusicMatch you can enjoy the music. MP3 SERVER STREAM FEATURING GERMAN ELECTRONIC, SPACE & PROGRESSIVE ROCK(T1, DSL, CABLE MODEM) http://www.live365.com/cgi- bin/play.pls?addr=166.90.143.147:6302&file=fil ename.pls MP3 SERVER STREAM FEATURING ALL PROGRESSIVE ROCK(T1, DSL, CABLE MODEM) http://www.live365.com/cgi- bin/play.pls?addr=216.32.166.87:17912&file=fil ename.pls MP3 SERVER STREAM FEATURING PSYCHEDELIC, RARE GARAGE & CLASSIC ROCK(T1, DSL, CABLE MODEM) http://www.live365.com/cgi- bin/play.pls?addr=216.32.166.87:18628&file=fil ename.pls MP3 SERVER STREAM FEATURING CLASSIC, MODERN AND PROGRESSIVE ROCK(33k Modem) http://www.live365.com/cgi- bin/play.pls?addr=216.32.166.75:11600&file=fil ename.pls Our Mp3 playlist is posted on the website. Enjoy. Steve Internet Radio Free Kansas http://www.tafcommedia.net Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground E-zine, freezine and online Record Store http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Jan 16 06:08:55 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:08:55 +0100 Subject: HW:James Last LP Message-ID: Hello Folks, Found a James Last,non stop dancing '73, with "Silver Machine" on it. Have it already,so want to swap it for anything Hawkwind and/or related. Greetings Filip Hawknut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Sun Jan 16 10:04:02 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:04:02 +0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote now! In-Reply-To: <387E5483.F09403D4@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: It's up to 104 now. I was very impressed by the two votes for Jimi Hendrix. And, in a very different way, for the vote for Diamanda Galas -- classic rawk festival action from her, no doubt :-). Dave. At 22:41 13/01/00 , Jill wrote: >Neil Ward wrote: >> >> Vote now folks! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "neil price" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 9:57 AM >> Subject: Glasto >> >> > Hi Neil, get on the Glasto site and vote for Hawkwind :- >> > www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/ >> > and tell as many people as poss cos your'e only allowed 1 vote. >> > Cheers, Neil. > > >I just tried the above address and all I got was an intro page last >updated 5 January saying that there was a technical problem with the >vote. However after doing a search of the website I found another intro >page updated on 12 January with voting capability. Hawkwind now have >42 votes - nearly 2% of total! > >This address should work: > > http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/index.shtml > >jill > >====================================================================== >Jill Strobridge or >J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk >====================================================================== Dave Berry, www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~daveb From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Jan 16 10:29:12 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:29:12 EST Subject: HW: news clipping from St.Louis, circa "Space Ritual" Message-ID: In a message dated 1/16/00 3:43:04 AM, blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM writes: << I really love the line that Richard yells "We are the Ones who are Left!" Is that too long to use for a good bootleg title? >> ============ no, if we're talking SD98, a boot cd by that title already exists... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Jan 16 10:41:46 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:41:46 EST Subject: HW: news clipping from St.Louis, circa "Space Ritual" Message-ID: Hawkwind HawkWorld - Frames Version here y'all go, chums... pretty neat article "<>" From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Sun Jan 16 10:48:10 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 09:48:10 -0600 Subject: HW: news clipping from St.Louis, circa "Space Ritual" Message-ID: ><< I really love the line that Richard yells "We are the >Ones who are Left!" Is that too long to use for a good bootleg title? > >> >============ >no, if we're talking SD98, a boot cd by that title already exists... > >"<>" Yeah, and no more "Dawn of Hawkwind"'s, "Masters of the Universe", "Live" - "Acid Daze" - "best of" - or - "Friends and Relations" From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Sun Jan 16 11:15:36 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:15:36 -0600 Subject: HW: Future HW Titles Message-ID: I'd like to see a title of early releases called "The Hatching of Hawkwind" Wad -da-ya Tink ? HM From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sun Jan 16 12:08:21 2000 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:08:21 -0600 Subject: HW: Future HW Titles Message-ID: OK..sounds good...whattabout "Hawkwind - Afterbirth" Stephan Spiegel wrote: > I'd like to see a title of early releases called > "The Hatching of Hawkwind" > > Wad -da-ya Tink ? > > HM From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Jan 16 12:17:56 2000 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:17:56 EST Subject: HW: Future HW Titles Message-ID: or: "Hawkwind - The Undiscovered Re-issues" In a message dated 1/16/00 9:11:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, tclark at PETRONET.NET writes: > OK..sounds good...whattabout "Hawkwind - Afterbirth" > > Stephan Spiegel wrote: > > > I'd like to see a title of early releases called > > "The Hatching of Hawkwind" > > > > Wad -da-ya Tink ? > > > > HM Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Sun Jan 16 15:26:40 2000 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:26:40 -0000 Subject: HW:really stupid question Message-ID: Hi all, Just slipped out of lurkdom for a moment to ask, what you all will think is a really easy question, but despie having a fairly extensive selection of HW studio albums I don't know which album ' Night of The Hawks ' is from???? To prove I not a complete moron I have tried to work it out, because from the style it is around about the Sonic Attack era but pre Black Sword. Since I have SA and CYM my gut feeling is Church of Hawkwind, could some kind soul please let me know..... and pretty please not to much of a slagging for being a thicky thanks!! LOL to all Hawkers and Hawkettes Doc .x. From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 16 15:51:04 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:51:04 -0000 Subject: HW:really stupid question Message-ID: Night of the Hawks comes from the Night Of The Hawks e.p. Released before the Earth Ritual tour. Seems a long time ago now. Stacks of rumours at the time of Lemmy rejoining to play on the tour. Dave -----Original Message----- From: nigel.kew To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 16 January 2000 20:35 Subject: HW:really stupid question >Hi all, > > Just slipped out of lurkdom for a moment to ask, what you all will >think is a really easy question, but despie having a fairly extensive >selection of HW studio albums I don't know which album ' Night of The >Hawks ' is from???? > >To prove I not a complete moron I have tried to work it out, because >from the style it is around about the Sonic Attack era but pre Black >Sword. Since I have SA and CYM my gut feeling is Church of Hawkwind, >could some kind soul please let me know..... and pretty please not to >much of a slagging for being a thicky thanks!! > >LOL to all Hawkers and Hawkettes >Doc .x. > From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Sun Jan 16 15:58:21 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:58:21 -0500 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting Message-ID: Well, pardon my dose of reality, but if we didn't "cheat" we would be the only "group" voting who didn't. Fact is, since I know there is ZERO chance of my attending, or purchasing any resultant product, I am "cheating" by voting at all. And you can, if you like, consider this more a way of countering the lack of exposure suffered by the band. I'll bet that the count-keepers have some statistical formulae to account for ballot stuffing, anyway. No flames, but I -do- think you are being whiney, a bit. And a little naive, too. Substitute the words "pangs of guilt," or "rush of self-righteousness" for the words "streak of honesty," and I have no problem with your statement. Hey- just bein' honest. =) Rj >Pardon my streak of honesty here but are we not an organized and potent >enough force without "cheating". I think the festival would like one vote >one person. Flame me if I am being whiney. > >Mike > >PS this comment is NOT directed to Rj or anyone else in particular. > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of Sprawl >Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 8:10 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: Re: HW : Glastonbury voting > > >Confirmed- The site keeps track by IP address. >Vote, go offline, release IP address, login again, vote, etc. >But too many votes stacked in a short period will likely set off >alarms, I would guess.. > >Cookies are irrelevant, because I NEVER accept cookies. > >"I'm sorry, but someone with the IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx has >already voted. Please click back." > >Rj From flossbac at NLCI.COM Sun Jan 16 15:57:02 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:57:02 -0500 Subject: HW:really stupid question Message-ID: "Night of the Hawks" didn't appear on any of the studio albums. It is from the "Earth Ritual Preview" EP which came out in 1984. On CD, you can find it on several compilations such as "Golden Void 1969-1979," "Independent Days Volumes 1 and 2," and "Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985." John Majka flossbac at nlci.com > Hi all, > > Just slipped out of lurkdom for a moment to ask, what you all will > think is a really easy question, but despie having a fairly extensive > selection of HW studio albums I don't know which album ' Night of The > Hawks ' is from???? > > To prove I not a complete moron I have tried to work it out, because > from the style it is around about the Sonic Attack era but pre Black > Sword. Since I have SA and CYM my gut feeling is Church of Hawkwind, > could some kind soul please let me know..... and pretty please not to > much of a slagging for being a thicky thanks!! > > LOL to all Hawkers and Hawkettes > Doc .x. > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 16 15:58:08 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:58:08 -0000 Subject: Kittyhawks Message-ID: I seem to remember an project to unite all of the ex-Hawkwind members, at the time, for a series of gigs in London under the name Kittyhawks. I think this was about 1976/7. It aborted apparently due to clashing egos.....or may be they realised that there wasn't much point to it without Dave Brock! Any of you archivists got anything to add? Hey, there might even be an ex-member, or two, lurking who can provide a first hand account. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just found the link to download it again! http://www.themeworld.com/indexH1.shtml Version 1.0 No Registration Required 02-Jul-97 2,264K Win 95/98/NT Freeware Never Expires No Install 28 min at 14.4K 14 min at 28.8K 2 min at ISDN 128K Is the person who created this on the BOC-L list? Karen -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Jan 16 17:03:44 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:03:44 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 1/15/00 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINAMP : 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. 1/15/00 Nebula Trip--Otherspace and Time (Birth; thanks to Tim) Ozric Tentacles--Kick Muck (Pungent Effulgent) Gong--Isle of Everywhere (You) Still--Unending Waves (Thinnerweb) Fripp/Eno--Evening Star (Evening Star) 13th Floor Elevators--Never Another (Bull of the Woods) " " " --Rose and the Thorn (Bull of the Woods) Dead Flowers--Altered State Circus (Altered State Circus) Hawkwind--You'd Better Believe It (Hall of the Mountain Grill) F/i--An Observation; The Eye at the Top of the Pyramid (Out of Space and Out of Time) Helios Creed--The Descent (X-rated Fairy Tales) Alien Mutation--Shimmer (Amberdelic Space vol. 2 comp) Orb--Alles ist Schoen (Pomme Fritz) Magma--Koentark pt. 2 (Live) Moody Blues--Legend of a Mind (In Search of the Lost Chord) UFO--Timothy (Space Metal) Man--Keep on Crinting (Be Good to Yourself at Least Once a Day) Loop Guru--Olwana (Amberdelic Space vol. 2) Saddar Bazaar--Arc of Ascent pt. 2 (Conference of the Birds) Pipedream--Venus Fly Trap (The Journey from Hamburg to Iceland Has Begun) Nik Turner--You Shouldn't Do That (Past or Future?) Thanks, Chuck From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Jan 16 16:59:12 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 22:59:12 +0100 Subject: HW:really stupid question Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: nigel.kew To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 9:26 PM Subject: HW:really stupid question > Hi all, > > Just slipped out of lurkdom for a moment to ask, what you all will > think is a really easy question, but despie having a fairly extensive > selection of HW studio albums I don't know which album ' Night of The > Hawks ' is from???? > > To prove I not a complete moron I have tried to work it out, because > from the style it is around about the Sonic Attack era but pre Black > Sword. Since I have SA and CYM my gut feeling is Church of Hawkwind, > could some kind soul please let me know..... and pretty please not to > much of a slagging for being a thicky thanks!! > > LOL to all Hawkers and Hawkettes > Doc .x. Well Nigel, Don't say it's a stupid question as where all not God who knows it all,or does he. Sorry,I'm wacko at the moment. "The Night Of The Hawks" is from the 12" THE EARTH RITUAL PREVIEW Lemmy plays on it after some years absense from Hawkwind and according to Dave Brock they had a really nice time doing this.According to managing & money problems the whole EARTH RITUAL thing didn't went through.They used some stuff on the CHRONICLE album but it's a real shame the whole thing didn't go ahead.I spoke to Lemmy some way back years about it and he was sorry about the whole thing too. Best Wishes filip hawknut From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Jan 16 17:34:27 2000 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:34:27 -0500 Subject: Baha Prog 2000 Update Message-ID: The fourth edition of the annual Progressive Rock Festival Baja Prog to be held from March 1 thru March 4 in Mexicali, Mexico, continues its preparation with full force. Here is a list of events for each day: Wednesday March 1: Equinox (Panama) Thursday March 2: Kromlech (Mexico) Eclat (France) Nexus (Argentina) The Flower Kings (Sweden) Friday March 3: Ten Jinn (USA) Drama (France) Isildurs Bane(Sweden) Pallas (United Kingdom) Saturday March 4: Five Fifteen (Finland) Halloween (France) Jadis (United Kingdom) After Crying (Hungary) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Jan 16 17:57:39 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:57:39 -0600 Subject: Baha Prog 2000 Update Message-ID: Baja Prog official link: http://www.1russ.com/BAJAPROG/index.htm > Michael Habiby wrote: > > The fourth edition of the annual Progressive Rock Festival Baja Prog > to be held from March 1 thru March 4 in Mexicali, Mexico, continues > its preparation with full force. Here is a list of events for each > day: > > Wednesday March 1: Thursday March 2: > Equinox (Panama) Kromlech (Mexico) > Eclat (France) > Nexus (Argentina) > The Flower Kings (Sweden) > > Friday March 3: Saturday March 4: > Ten Jinn (USA) Five Fifteen (Finland) > Drama (France) Halloween (France) > Isildurs Bane(Sweden) Jadis (United Kingdom) > Pallas (United Kingdom) After Crying (Hungary) -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jan 16 18:53:38 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:53:38 +0000 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting In-Reply-To: <200001152204.RAA15368@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from K Henderson on Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 05:09:23PM -0500 Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 05:09:23PM -0500, K Henderson wrote: > So what the hell difference does it make...the only thing I see is that the > people running the vote can tell how many fans are networked together for > any particular group (and how clever they are). Then that *might* be a > proxy for how many are likely to take the effort to travel 1000 miles to > Glasters to see that group. Any true band popularity rating culled from > this would be worthless. Note that the Porcupine Tree list is down for > maintenance right now...I don't think they have a single vote, do they? Is that damn list ever _up_? Mind you, given the times they've had of it there the last couple of tries I doubt somehow that PT will be over-eager to appear. Though of course if they were invited I doubt Snapper would be too pleased if they tried to refuse. > P.S. I'm guessing that *all* of the bands are effectively 'write-ins', as > they just keep adding on more and more. Who the hell is Morecheeba? Well, they actually do exist... They're a London (I think) trip-hop band who turned out a supremely annoying track called `Tapeloop' a few years back but other than that have at least as much to recommend them as any other trip-hop type band. Except Portishead of course, because they have an ex-Hawkwind member. Did anyone else know this? Their drummer's Clive Deamer. This means that on my attempt at a complete Relations List I have to feature not only Portishead but also Roni Size & Reprazent (ick!). Mr. Deamer has a lot to answer for... Yours, Jon -- /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | =====================================================================| |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| \______________________________________________________________________/ From MLawrenc at VITGDTS1.TELSTRA.COM.AU Sun Jan 16 23:11:00 2000 From: MLawrenc at VITGDTS1.TELSTRA.COM.AU (Lawrence, Marty [IBM GSA]) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:11:00 +1100 Subject: HW: Re Audio Interview Message-ID: Keith wrote: I gather from the photo that this interview might have been done in 1977 (or was it 1978?), literally hours before the final Hawkwind concert when they broke up. [The Spirit of the Age performance (IIRC pretty good, but for the feedback problems) on F&R II is from this gig, is that right? I always thought that the SOTA from F&R II was actually the same track from the weird tape at Stonehenge, I wrote to Brian Tawn about this and he replied that might be right. Bernhard ? Good to be back on the list ,just as the crew tour down under ,any news on MELBOURNE ? regards Marty From MLawrenc at VITGDTS1.TELSTRA.COM.AU Sun Jan 16 23:21:00 2000 From: MLawrenc at VITGDTS1.TELSTRA.COM.AU (Lawrence, Marty [IBM GSA]) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:21:00 +1100 Subject: HW:Re Kittyhawks Message-ID: David wrote: I seem to remember an project to unite all of the ex-Hawkwind members, at the time, for a series of gigs in London under the name Kittyhawks. I think this was about 1976/7. It aborted apparently due to clashing egos.....or may be they realised that there wasn't much point to it without Dave Brock! Any of you archivists got anything to add? Hey, there might even be an ex-member, or two, lurking who can provide a first hand account. There were some Gigs organised at the Electric Ballroom in 1978 by ex-members in supposed protest of the Hawklords concept. Cant remember why the gig didn't happen though,I remember the ad that was in sounds as it included "Andy Colloghan ? " or similar who had never been in the band.I think the ex members were nik,lemmy,simon house. regards Marty From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Mon Jan 17 01:45:58 2000 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 07:45:58 +0100 Subject: HW:Re Kittyhawks Message-ID: Hi, Marty Lawrence wrote: > There were some Gigs organised at the Electric Ballroom in 1978 by > ex-members in supposed protest of the Hawklords concept. > Cant remember why the gig didn't happen though,I remember the ad that was in > sounds as it included "Andy Colloghan ? " or > similar who had never been in the band.I think the ex members were > nik,lemmy,simon house. And Simon King, Alan Powell, Huw Lloyd-Langton and Dik Mik AFAIK. ciao D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jan 17 05:09:49 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 02:09:49 PST Subject: Trip Hop (Re: HW : Glastonbury voting) Message-ID: >This means that on my attempt at a complete Relations List I have >to feature not only Portishead but also Roni Size & Reprazent (ick!). Mr. >Deamer has a lot to answer for... >Yours, >Jon Take that back! I'll have you know that trip-hop is just Space Rock on downers and red wine. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jan 17 10:04:59 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:04:59 -0000 Subject: NIK: Helsinki In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carl is the winner because he scared me. I just had chance to play it after getting home. Extremely fucking heavy! BTW, Nik's All-Stars album sounds pretty nifty too. Although it was on a clapped-out cassette recorder and I confess to being distracted by the Finnish girls. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Mon Jan 17 11:11:24 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:11:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Re Audio Interview In-Reply-To: <200001170511.QAA10704@mail.cdn.telstra.com.au> Message-ID: Hi At 15:11 17.1.2000 +1100, you wrote: >I always thought that the SOTA from F&R II was actually the same track from >the weird tape at Stonehenge, >I wrote to Brian Tawn about this and he replied that might be right. >Bernhard ? The SOTA version from F&R II is from Chicago 1978 Bernhard From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Jan 16 21:35:22 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 02:35:22 +0000 Subject: HW: news clipping from St.Louis, circa "Space Ritual" In-Reply-To: <38819BF6.32F@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: At 02:22 16.01.2000 -0800, you wrote: >I really love the line that Richard yells "We are the >Ones who are Left!" Is that too long to use for a good bootleg title? "We are the lost ones We are the pioneers We are the ones They're going to build a statue for Ten centuries ago Or were going to fifteen forward." "Pioneers Over c." Peter Hammill/VdGG Nostalgically Yours ChrisW (Who's weekend was more "100% Colombian" than just the CD ;-{)))> ) "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Jan 17 12:41:37 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:41:37 -0500 Subject: NIK: Helsinki In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 15.04 +0000 00-01-17, Andy Gilham wrote: >Carl is the winner because he scared me. Gee, and I'm so non-threatening .... ;) >I just had chance to play it after getting home. Extremely fucking heavy! And thus worth being scary for :) >BTW, Nik's All-Stars album sounds pretty nifty too. Although it was on a >clapped-out cassette recorder and I confess to being distracted by the >Finnish girls. Always a danger .... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From micci at SCI.FI Mon Jan 17 12:43:29 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:43:29 +0200 Subject: NIK: Helsinki Message-ID: Hi! >Carl is the winner because he scared me. > >I just had chance to play it after getting home. Extremely fucking heavy! > >BTW, Nik's All-Stars album sounds pretty nifty too. Although it was on a >clapped-out cassette recorder and I confess to being distracted by the >Finnish girls. What! Did I miss after party?! ;-)) Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jan 17 13:34:53 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:34:53 -0000 Subject: NIK: Helsinki Message-ID: >BTW, Nik's All-Stars album sounds pretty nifty too. Although it was on a >clapped-out cassette recorder and I confess to being distracted by the >Finnish girls. Funland was what my friend called after a period working there.... From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jan 17 13:49:39 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:49:39 -0000 Subject: Re Kittyhawks In-Reply-To: <200001170521.QAA18250@mail.cdn.telstra.com.au> Message-ID: > There were some Gigs organised at the Electric Ballroom in 1978 by > ex-members in supposed protest of the Hawklords concept. > Cant remember why the gig didn't happen though,I remember the ad > that was in > sounds as it included "Andy Colloghan ? " or > similar who had never been in the band.I think the ex members were > nik,lemmy,simon house. Wouldn't be Andy Colquhoun, by any chance? Long-time collaborator of Mick Farren's. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jan 17 13:51:42 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:51:42 -0000 Subject: NIK: Helsinki In-Reply-To: <200001171743.TAA12125@ds9.sci.fi> Message-ID: Miikka Well, I got back to my hotel about 10 am the next day... :) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jan 17 13:08:56 2000 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:08:56 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind Book and Hawkeye site Message-ID: Hello Folks The Hawkwind book is finally nearing completion, with all the artwork except for the photos now inserted. The text will be checked then proof read during the next few weeks and then it's a case of finding a publisher. URGENT HELP NEEDED There are still a few snippets of info and images needed. If you can help in any way, please do. Colour copies, or Email attachments are fine, preferably JPEGs at 300dpi. age.p at conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk 1. The catalogue number for the USA Sire Records release of Hawkwind's "Quark Strangeness and Charm c/w Forge Of Vulcan" single. 2. A colour (or b&w) advert for EMI's "Epocheclipse" CD compilations from 1999. 3. Any gig adverts, tickets or memorabilia from Hawkwind's 1999 gigs. 4. Colour copies of the following Hawkwind CD covers. i. "Independent Days Volume 1 & 2" (Anagram or Griffin 1995) ii. "Welcome To The Future" (Dressed To Kill 1997 4CD) iii. "Master Of The Universe" (Laserlight 1999) iv. "Epocheclipse: Ultimate Best Of" (EMI 1999) v. Dawn Of Hawkwind (Blueprint Jewel Case cover 1999, not the booklet) 5. Info and/or confirmation on Hawkwind touring Europe in the Autumn of 1976 following the UK Astounding Sounds tour. 6. What date and channel was the program "Putting Our House In Order" shown on T.V in 1993, which had an interview with Richard Chadwick and Sam Fox, and was the project to raise money for the homeless. That's the last few bits and bobs I'm after. Look forward to hearing from anyone that can help out. The "Hawkeye" website will be updated fully within the next week or so, including the full set of NZ and Australian tour dates, and hopefully more news on the reunion gig at Brixton. All the best Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Mon Jan 17 14:31:52 2000 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:31:52 -0800 Subject: HW: Future HW Titles Message-ID: Out of the Egg, Into the Frying Pan :) scorch From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Jan 17 14:33:04 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:33:04 -0800 Subject: HW: Kittyhawks Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:49:39 -0000, Andy Gilham wrote: >> There were some Gigs organised at the Electric Ballroom in 1978 by >> ex-members in supposed protest of the Hawklords concept. >> Cant remember why the gig didn't happen though,I remember the ad >> that was in >> sounds as it included "Andy Colloghan ? " or >> similar who had never been in the band.I think the ex members were >> nik,lemmy,simon house. > >Wouldn't be Andy Colquhoun, by any chance? Long-time collaborator of Mick >Farren's. I would expect so, since that would have been right around the time he was in Tanz Der Youth (one 7" single on Radar records) with Alan Powell (and Brian James ex-Damned). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jan 17 15:31:11 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:31:11 +0000 Subject: HW:Re Kittyhawks In-Reply-To: <200001170521.QAA18250@mail.cdn.telstra.com.au>; from Lawrence, Marty [IBM GSA] on Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 03:21:00PM +1100 Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 03:21:00PM +1100, Lawrence, Marty [IBM GSA] wrote: > David wrote: > I seem to remember an project to unite all of the ex-Hawkwind members, at > the time, for a series of gigs in London under the name Kittyhawks. I think > this was about 1976/7. It aborted apparently due to clashing egos.....or may > be they realised that there wasn't much point to it without Dave Brock! Any > of you archivists got anything to add? Hey, there might even be an > ex-member, or two, lurking who can provide a first hand account. > > > There were some Gigs organised at the Electric Ballroom in 1978 by > ex-members in supposed protest of the Hawklords concept. > Cant remember why the gig didn't happen though,I remember the ad that was in > sounds as it included "Andy Colloghan ? " or > similar who had never been in the band.I think the ex members were > nik,lemmy,simon house. Would that be Andy Colquhoun of the Deviants and Pink Fairies Mk., um, let's say 5? He's at least connected through Paul Rudolph and Alan Powell. Simon House is faintly surprising though as he was on _25 Years On_, which at least suggests he didn't object to the idea of Hawklords. Interesting concept all the same. By my reckoning even in '78 if you'd got all ex-members there you'd have had three bass players, one guitarist, three more who could do either, two drummers (counting Twink, who, let's face it, would have got in there somehow) and Del and Nik, as well as Michael Moorcock. And that's leaving out people who'd quit music like Terry Ollis and Dik Mik (and Stacia of course). Fun idea to play with... Yours, Jon ObCD: The Brain Surgeons - _Malpractice_ -- /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | =====================================================================| |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| \______________________________________________________________________/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jan 17 15:43:59 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:43:59 +0000 Subject: Trip Hop (Re: HW : Glastonbury voting) In-Reply-To: <20000117100949.8196.qmail@hotmail.com>; from Horse Whisperer on Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 02:09:49AM -0800 Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 02:09:49AM -0800, Horse Whisperer wrote: > >This means that on my attempt at a complete Relations List I have > >to feature not only Portishead but also Roni Size & Reprazent (ick!). Mr. > >Deamer has a lot to answer for... > >Yours, > >Jon > > Take that back! > I'll have you know that trip-hop is just Space Rock on downers and red wine. Oh, I know, I rate Massive Attack particularly, but it was Roni Size I was drawing the line at :-) Yours, Jon -- /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | =====================================================================| |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| \______________________________________________________________________/ From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Mon Jan 17 16:40:33 2000 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:40:33 -0500 Subject: HW: Re Audio Interview In-Reply-To: <200001171633.RAA27525@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: At 05:11 PM 1/17/00 +0100, you wrote: >Hi > >At 15:11 17.1.2000 +1100, you wrote: >>I always thought that the SOTA from F&R II was actually the same track from >>the weird tape at Stonehenge, >>I wrote to Brian Tawn about this and he replied that might be right. >>Bernhard ? > >The SOTA version from F&R II is from Chicago 1978 > > >Bernhard And if I am remembering correctly, the pitch is off (or another Bob Calvert-era song on that album). When it first came out, I listened to it and the QS&C versions side by side, and they were different pitches (I believe QS&C was the higher -correct- pitch). If you have an adjustable-speed turntable, just tweak the F&R II version and you will see what I mean. When doing so, you might also notice that Bob's vocals sound distinctly different at certain pitches, and with the wrong-speed F&R II version it is noticeable. (Now, it has been years since this one came out, so don't pile on me too hard if my recollection is faulty.) Dave From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jan 17 18:20:30 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:20:30 +0000 Subject: HW:Re Kittyhawks Message-ID: "Lawrence, Marty [IBM GSA]" wrote: > > David wrote: > I seem to remember an project to unite all of the ex-Hawkwind members, at > the time, for a series of gigs in London under the name Kittyhawks. I think > this was about 1976/7. It aborted apparently due to clashing egos.....or may > be they realised that there wasn't much point to it without Dave Brock! Any > of you archivists got anything to add? Hey, there might even be an The way I heard it there was only one gig set up for Kittyhawks and it was either due to happen in a pub or they all arranged to meet up in a pub first. Either way I think that the enjoyment of drinking proved rather more alluring than the idea of playing so it never actually went ahead. But this could all just be some wild gossip that bears no relation to the reality of what was really happening at the time. I have no way to prove it since I was just an innocent young secretary in Edinburgh at the time trying to hide "Warrior on the Edge of Time" from the horrified ears of my parents. Sigh. Weren't those the days. jill -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jan 17 18:01:10 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:01:10 +0000 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 05:09:23PM -0500, K Henderson wrote: > > > this would be worthless. Note that the Porcupine Tree list is down for > > maintenance right now...I don't think they have a single vote, do they? > > Is that damn list ever _up_? Mind you, given the times they've > had of it there the last couple of tries I doubt somehow that PT will be > over-eager to appear. Though of course if they were invited I doubt > Snapper would be too pleased if they tried to refuse. Well in my (admittedly jaundiced) view I doubt they would agree to do Glastonbury. And since they've been twice offered the chance and twice refused it I doubt if Glastonbury would be interested in asking them again. jill (still with memories of sludging around in the mud searching for them - I have not entirely forgiven them for that!) -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jan 17 17:26:37 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:26:37 -0000 Subject: Trip Hop Message-ID: >I'll have you know that trip-hop is just Space Rock on downers and red wine. Dunno about that, but I do like Portishead. How about a "modern Space/kraut rock fusion with wrist slitting overtones" Theres a career on the NME waiting for me (ugh!) T From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Mon Jan 17 18:31:38 2000 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:31:38 -0000 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: I just bought this (double) CD today. For ?16.99. Does anyone have any tapes from the 1979 tour which sound WORSE than this? I feel a warning is in order for those who might be contemplating this purchase. And does anyone have both this and the 1982 double CD? How does it compare? (I mean specifically in *sound* quality, rather than performance). Comments? Alasdair -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Jan 17 18:44:18 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:44:18 -0800 Subject: OFF: CDs/LPs spotted, Bay Area stuff, etc. Message-ID: A whole bunch of things ... first, some albums/CD's spotted in the Bay Area: 1) Last weekend, when I was at Amoeba Records in Berkeley, I saw that they have a vinyl copy of Nik Turner Sphynx 'Xitintoday' (Charisma) for $20. The sleeve was in great shape, but the album was taped shut so I couldn't check the condition of the LP or see if the booklet was included. If someone seriously wants this, the store will open it up so it can be checked before purchase. 2) Picked up a copy of the 'Hawkwind' (first album) CD on One Way at the Tower Outlet in San Francisco today for cheap (the only other Hawkwind items I could find were the Dave Anderson stuff). If anyone needs it more than I do, drop me a line. 3) The same Tower Outlet has *tons* of copies of the 3 Motorhead CD's on CMC for $6.00 each (no 'Heaven Forbid' cutouts, sorry). Among some of my more recent acquisitions (the new ST37 CD 'I like to talk when theres something to talk about' rules!), a couple things I should mention... One of the newly-released Twink (the Pink Fairies/Pretty Things/Tomorrow/Pinkwind/etc. drummer, of course, not the keyboard roadie!) albums, 'Unreleased Experimental Tapes' (or something along those lines), is incredible! It's unfinished tapes from 69/70 of (mostly) heavy drumming and completely freaked-out Moog synthesizer noise (it was described to me as sounding like Throbbing Gristle in parts, and indeed it does), along with a few psych song bits that sound like outtakes from 'Think Pink'. There's another new album of old (70s/80s, I think) Twink stuff that I haven't yet checked out, given the dodginess of some of that guy's work. But this 'Experimental Tapes' one is definitely worth it (as long as you're into electronic weirdness). And, one of those Italian labels that's been reissuing cool stuff left & right (Get Back, Abraxas, etc.) has put out a legit (I think?) reissue of the Sam Gopal 'Escalator' album. I picked up a vinyl reissue (gatefold, heavy vinyl), so I'm not sure if it's available on CD. Sounds better than the previous bootleg CD, as far as I can tell. Real nice 60s fuzz/psych music with tablas instead of a drumkit, and guitar/lead vocals by Lemmy (post-Rockin' Vicars, pre-Opal Butterfly). Lastly, for any Bay Area folks, since Primordial Undermind have moved out of town, I'm most recently involved in a band called Go Commando. We're playing our first show this friday (jan 21) at the Cocodrie in San Francisco (on Kearny Street in North Beach), and are going on first at around 9:30PM. Our singer has a gorgeous voice (and looks to match), the guitarist and drummer are quite skilled, and I'll be playing keyboards plus a bit of bass. I'm not quite sure how to describe our sound (although it's definitely not spacerock), but I will promise that we'll play one "on-topic" cover song. Hope to see you there ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Mon Jan 17 18:53:53 2000 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:53:53 -0000 Subject: HW tree (read if on the tree) Message-ID: > > Si Halley "Si Halley" > > Geoff Wright > David Hall > Still waiting to hear from you guys if you want copies. Mail me privately if you still want them. Si From flossbac at NLCI.COM Mon Jan 17 18:55:30 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:55:30 -0500 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: Oh yeah I've got tons of 1979 tapes that sound far worse-- I think as an official bootleg recording goes, it's pretty good. On the other hand, I wonder why HW chose to release the poorly recorded shows they did in the collectors' series when there are so many really high quality tapes in circulation among fans. I have at least a dozen tapes that sound way better than these CDs. John Majka > I just bought this (double) CD today. For ?16.99. Does anyone have > any tapes from the 1979 tour which sound WORSE than this? I feel > a warning is in order for those who might be contemplating this > purchase. > > And does anyone have both this and the 1982 double CD? How > does it compare? (I mean specifically in *sound* quality, rather > than performance). > > Comments? > > Alasdair > > -- > Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 > Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com > > alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) > From MLawrenc at VITGDTS1.TELSTRA.COM.AU Mon Jan 17 19:56:00 2000 From: MLawrenc at VITGDTS1.TELSTRA.COM.AU (Lawrence, Marty [IBM GSA]) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:56:00 +1100 Subject: HW: NZ/AUS Tour Message-ID: I have been looking at Hawkwind.com and noticed the touring party and Ron seems to be missing ? It states the touring band will consist of: HARVEY BAINBRIDGE DAVE BROCK RICHARD CHADWICK STEVEN EARL TAYLOR SIMON HOUSE JERRY RICHARDS So who is Steven Earl Taylor ? regards Marty From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Jan 17 12:19:48 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:19:48 +0000 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting In-Reply-To: <20000116235338.D2025@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: At 23:53 16.01.2000 +0000, you wrote: >> P.S. I'm guessing that *all* of the bands are effectively 'write-ins', as >> they just keep adding on more and more. Who the hell is Morecheeba? > > Well, they actually do exist... They're a London (I think) >trip-hop band who turned out a supremely annoying track called `Tapeloop' >a few years back but other than that have at least as much to recommend >them as any other trip-hop type band. That comment jibes well with the perceived character of the man who put together "Cosmic Rings & Heavy Things" *g* - as if I didn't already know!!!!! I think Morcheeba are rather good actually, if not in the class of Red Snapper or the below-mentioned Portsihead. > > Except Portishead of course, because they have an ex-Hawkwind >member. Did anyone else know this? Their drummer's Clive Deamer. This >means that on my attempt at a complete Relations List I have to feature >not only Portishead but also Roni Size & Reprazent (ick!). Mr. Deamer has >a lot to answer for... Yours, > Jon As for Reprazent - Hush yo' mouf - the album was IMHO a desereved Mercury winner and deferably one of the best albums of its year, if not the best single artist/band d'n'b albums ever!!!!!! ChrisW (Still Colombian) "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Tue Jan 18 01:43:14 2000 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 07:43:14 +0100 Subject: AW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: Hi >I just bought this (double) CD today. For ?16.99. Does anyone have >any tapes from the 1979 tour which sound WORSE than this? I feel >a warning is in order for those who might be contemplating this >purchase. >And does anyone have both this and the 1982 double CD? How >does it compare? (I mean specifically in *sound* quality, rather >than performance). >Comments? For your information: The LIVE79COMPLETE was recorded in Hammersmith, 01.12.79 (except "Shot Down") The Live82 was also recorded in Hammersmith on 13.11.82 (except Moorcock poem) The 1982 CD has a far better sound quality (full stereo, clear, dynamic) I suppose that the band (especially Dave Brock) prefer to release Hammersmith gigs officially. Do not know why. Maybe he likes the venue and the band performances here Yes there exist worse tapes from the 1979 tour. But I also have some better tapes than the "comlete79" (Preston) Bernhard From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jan 18 04:37:49 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:37:49 PST Subject: Trip Hop (Re: HW : Glastonbury voting) Message-ID: > > I'll have you know that trip-hop is just Space Rock on downers and red >wine. > > Oh, I know, I rate Massive Attack particularly, but it was Roni >Size I was drawing the line at :-) Yours, Well I spotted that, I just couldn't think of anything witty to say about it. Grrrr. Anyway, I've seen him live with Raprazent and anyone who can drum at that tempo earns my respect. Although some of his tracks are a little....um...bland. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 04:37:08 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:37:08 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind Book and Hawkeye site In-Reply-To: <000201bf611c$75b15e00$ec1d893e@default> Message-ID: In message <000201bf611c$75b15e00$ec1d893e at default>, Adrian Parr writes >Hello Folks > >The Hawkwind book is finally nearing completion, with all the artwork except >for the photos now inserted. The text will be checked then proof read during >the next few weeks and then it's a case of finding a publisher. Adrian, Can I just volunteer to help out with the proof reading? just a thought -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 04:42:17 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:42:17 +0000 Subject: HW : Glastonbury voting In-Reply-To: <38839F36.2DE9BADF@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: In message <38839F36.2DE9BADF at theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk>, Jill writes >(still with memories of sludging around in the mud searching for them - >I have not entirely forgiven them for that!) Let me elaborate. "Sludging around in the mud, in the green field waiting for them to (decide not to) play while missing Primal Scream (Dance Tent), Chemical Brothers (NME Stage) and Radiohead (Main Stage), who are all on at the same time." No, me neither. -- Jon From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Tue Jan 18 08:19:39 2000 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 05:19:39 -0800 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: Hi - I bought this on Sunday (US$25) and I was just about to post the same thing! No way am I going to buy 10 crappy sounding Collector's Series releases just to get that free release - which is probably just as crappy. I had the choice of this and the Glastonbury 1990 CD - would I have been better off with that one? MWood NP: Michael Stearns - _Encounter_ On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:31:38 Alasdair Macdonald wrote: >I just bought this (double) CD today. For #16.99. Does anyone have >any tapes from the 1979 tour which sound WORSE than this? I feel >a warning is in order for those who might be contemplating this >purchase. > >And does anyone have both this and the 1982 double CD? How >does it compare? (I mean specifically in *sound* quality, rather >than performance). > >Comments? > >Alasdair > >-- >Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 >Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com > >alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jan 18 08:49:42 2000 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:49:42 +0800 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is it worse than Text Of Festival & Bring Me The Head Of Uri Gargarin? William > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Marshall Wood > Sent: Tuesday, 18 January 2000 9:20 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW: Live '79 Complete > > > Hi - I bought this on Sunday (US$25) and I was just about to > post the same thing! No way am I going to buy 10 crappy sounding > Collector's Series releases just to get that free release - which > is probably just as crappy. > > I had the choice of this and the Glastonbury 1990 CD - would I > have been better off with that one? > > MWood > > NP: Michael Stearns - _Encounter_ > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:31:38 Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > >I just bought this (double) CD today. For #16.99. Does anyone have > >any tapes from the 1979 tour which sound WORSE than this? I feel > >a warning is in order for those who might be contemplating this > >purchase. > > > >And does anyone have both this and the 1982 double CD? How > >does it compare? (I mean specifically in *sound* quality, rather > >than performance). > > > >Comments? > > > >Alasdair > > > >-- > >Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 > >Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com > > > >alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) > > > > > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- > Share what you know. Learn what you don't. > From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Tue Jan 18 08:50:28 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 07:50:28 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Theme Loading Message-ID: OK, I give up.... I unzipped it, so now what's next? Don't know how to load it so it works Hawkman -----Original Message----- From: Karen Kusic To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Sunday, January 16, 2000 3:37 PM Subject: HW: Hawkwind Theme for Windows 95/98/NT >Remember the Hawkwind theme for Windows operating systems? > >Just found the link to download it again! > >http://www.themeworld.com/indexH1.shtml > >Version 1.0 >No Registration Required >02-Jul-97 >2,264K >Win 95/98/NT >Freeware >Never Expires >No Install >28 min at 14.4K >14 min at 28.8K >2 min at ISDN 128K > >Is the person who created this on the BOC-L list? > >Karen > >-- >"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production >deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." >- Frank Zappa From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 09:14:12 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:14:12 -0000 Subject: HW: Collection CDs Message-ID: A lot of dissatisfaction around eh! I'm looking at a complete list of these 'collection' CDs in the CDS Dundee catalogue. I'm not such a Hawknut that I want anything and everything. For sound quality (firstly) and something not too similar to the main live albums of that time(79, stonehenge, chronicles, Palace Springs)(secondly) what do the committee recommend? T PS just got my first Darxtar album - Sju. Quite nice..... but thats it - quite nice. Slightly disapointed. I actually prefer Dark Star! (thanks Keith) Hey, Thread idea. What other bands have confusingly close names. I remember the media stirred fuss in the seventies between Steely Dan and Steeleye Span. What others? From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 09:22:27 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:22:27 -0000 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: >Is it worse than Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gargarin? Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light The Planck length is the smallest possible length 0 degrees Kelvin is absolute zero Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gargarin is the worst recording in the history of the planet. These are the fundamental precepts of all knowledge. T From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 09:28:15 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:28:15 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Theme Loading Message-ID: Stephan, You need a theme manager. Good point, I dont have one either. I have what I believe is an excellent Winnie the Pooh theme stashed that I cant use (HEY - how long do you think a Hawkwind theme is going to last in my household? A Steps theme til I came back from work about 7.00pm, a Hawkwind theme til the kids came back from school about 4.00pm. They'd probably succesfully wipe the hard drive in the process as well.) So anyone know a site where you can lig a 100% free, not 30 days trial theme manager? T From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Jan 18 10:44:20 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:44:20 -0500 Subject: Yuri Gargarin Message-ID: >>Is it worse than Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gargarin? > >Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light >The Planck length is the smallest possible length >0 degrees Kelvin is absolute zero >Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gargarin is the worst recording in the history of >the planet. > >These are the fundamental precepts of all knowledge. You presume all recordings are made on this planet... "and then he showed me the design for the vessel. They would exhume the body of Yuri Gargarin, and place his coffin in a central reactor, attached to a generator. Then they would play the album "Bring Me the Head of Yuri Gargarin" inside the reactor chamber, and use the resulting torque generated to power the ship....." "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Jan 18 11:28:19 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:28:19 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Theme Loading In-Reply-To: <000501bf61c5$f91640e0$5106883e@timsteph> from "Tim Stephenson" at Jan 18, 0 02:28:15 pm Message-ID: Here it is! Do a search for themeins.zip on www.themeworld.com The Hawkwind theme file is Hawkwind.zip. I just installed a Dream Theater theme on my other computer with themeins.zip and it worked great. Sorry I didn't include the themeins link in my initial email. Karen > > Stephan, You need a theme manager. Good point, I dont have one either. I > have what > I believe is an excellent Winnie the Pooh theme stashed that I cant use > (HEY - how long do you think a Hawkwind theme is going to last in my > household? A Steps theme til I came back from work about 7.00pm, a Hawkwind > theme til the kids came back from school about 4.00pm. They'd probably > succesfully wipe the hard drive in the process as well.) > > So anyone know a site where you can lig a 100% free, not 30 days trial theme > manager? > > T > From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jan 18 11:53:23 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:53:23 PST Subject: HW: Utopia 1984 Message-ID: I want to get hold of a decent recording Hawkwind's Utopia 1984, my dub from vinyl has a bizarre volume dip from the end of Leviation right through to the start of Watching the Grass Grow on side B. If someone could burn me a cdr, I'd pay, in cash or kind. Some of the tracks from Utopia 1984 turned up on something else which I bought in Virgin, Sonic Attack I think, although it was terrible. Help! Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From flossbac at NLCI.COM Tue Jan 18 12:22:14 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:22:14 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Book and Hawkeye site Message-ID: >The Hawkwind book is finally nearing completion, with all the artwork except >for the photos now inserted. The text will be checked then proof read during >the next few weeks and then it's a case of finding a publisher. > > Adrian, Hey Adrian, if you need any help with proofreading/editing etc., I am a former English teacher and might be able to help you out.... On my modest Hawkwind website are some photos of HW I've taken on the various US tours from '89 to the present-- some are better than others. The 1995 photos are particularly nice. Feel free to steal them if you need them. John Majka http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac/hawkwind.html From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Tue Jan 18 12:38:14 2000 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:38:14 -0800 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: Not quite as bad as Text of Festival, IIRC - though I haven't listened to that horrible mess in quite a while... Never found Yuri Gagarin at a price I was willing to pay (not much). MWood NP: Nektar - _A Tab in the Ocean_ On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:49:42 William Duffy wrote: >Is it worse than Text Of Festival & Bring Me The Head Of Uri Gargarin? > >William > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >> Behalf Of Marshall Wood >> Sent: Tuesday, 18 January 2000 9:20 >> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >> Subject: Re: HW: Live '79 Complete >> >> >> Hi - I bought this on Sunday (US$25) and I was just about to >> post the same thing! No way am I going to buy 10 crappy sounding >> Collector's Series releases just to get that free release - which >> is probably just as crappy. >> >> I had the choice of this and the Glastonbury 1990 CD - would I >> have been better off with that one? >> >> MWood >> >> NP: Michael Stearns - _Encounter_ >> >> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:31:38 Alasdair Macdonald wrote: >> >I just bought this (double) CD today. For #16.99. Does anyone have >> >any tapes from the 1979 tour which sound WORSE than this? I feel >> >a warning is in order for those who might be contemplating this >> >purchase. >> > >> >And does anyone have both this and the 1982 double CD? How >> >does it compare? (I mean specifically in *sound* quality, rather >> >than performance). >> > >> >Comments? >> > >> >Alasdair >> > >> >-- >> >Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 >> >Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com >> > >> >alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) >> > >> >> >> --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- >> Share what you know. Learn what you don't. >> > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 12:49:14 2000 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:49:14 -0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury CD track list Message-ID: Hello Folks Can anyone tell me the revised track list for the Voiceprint Glastonbury 1990 CD that was redone after initial copies went out with the wrong songs. The one I've got has the tracks from the 1982 CD (well second disc anyway) Cheers Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Jan 18 13:24:47 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:24:47 -0500 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: >Not quite as bad as Text of Festival, IIRC - though I haven't listened to that horrible mess in quite a while... > >Never found Yuri Gagarin at a price I was willing to pay (not much). Mine was handed to me by a Hawkfan who had accidentally acquired an extra when he purchased a bin. I suppose the cover art is worth something, I rather like it. On the cheapo front, a store in my area had a 4-cd Hawkwind Set (I think it was "Welcome to the Future") that had Yuri as one of the four cds, for about $12.00. It was $20 originally but it didn't move... If it makes it into the $4.99 bin I might pick it up. The other 3 cds were all either nothing to write home about or stuff I already have. "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Tue Jan 18 14:06:20 2000 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:06:20 -0800 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: > Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gargarin is the worst recording in the history of > the planet. I dunno, I'd say the cd release of the St. Albans gives it rather a good run for the money. As for me, I've 2 copies of Yuri (bought 1 for $2.99, got the other free), 1 of each cover. The one I bought was for the cover, it's the one with the faux Warrior style cover, which I quite like. scorch From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 14:19:11 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:19:11 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Theme Loading Message-ID: Thanks Karen, got it! Now then, what was the address for the theme itself again please T np - Parallel or 90 Degrees - The Time Capsule From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 14:23:09 2000 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:23:09 -0000 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 18 Jan 00, at 5:19, Marshall Wood wrote: > Hi - I bought this on Sunday (US$25) and I was just about to post the > same thing! No way am I going to buy 10 crappy sounding Collector's > Series releases just to get that free release - which is probably just > as crappy. > > I had the choice of this and the Glastonbury 1990 CD - would I have > been better off with that one? Well, I guess the Glastonbury CD would have been cheaper, and it has the added bonus of someone asking the taper if they have any Rizlas, and lots of dogs barking. I would say it is easier to listen to. The real question here is why are HW / Voiceprint issuing this material, when there *must* be better available. And, so far as Live '79 Complete is concerned, why was the source in such bad shape?? The treble is massively phased, and there are several bad edits and / or jumps. This suggests shoddy mastering, as well as a multi-generation source tape. The CD package may say "Collectors Series" but it does *NOT* say "Official Bootleg". A flyer I collected from the November shows does say "Official Bootleg". Given that I bought Live '79 Complete in HMV, I suppose any newbie could have bought it - and I suppose that experience would put them off HW / Voiceprint for life. *That*, I guess, is my problem with this package. (And it makes me very wary of the remaining releases). Last night I was trying to think of any other commercially released material that I may own of such substandard quality. I couldn't think of anything. Today's e-mail has kindly reminded me that there are comparably awful releases, also by HW (the Dave Anderson stuff). I still can't think of anything so poor by any other band. What is the lesson here???? I think Live '79 Complete (which admittedly I almost slightly enjoyed, in parts) must have been recorded using a baked bean tin, a piece of string and a Roadrunner - style "Acme" magnet 6 feet tall. A rusty baked bean tin. Anyway, the booklet is nice. Alasdair -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 14:27:07 2000 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:27:07 -0000 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete In-Reply-To: <200001181906.LAA19011@bob.te-cats.com > Message-ID: St Albans being the "original" Live '79? I have an (original) prerecord cassette of that, and it sounds no worse than any other prerecord cassette of the time. Is the CD version badly mastered, or is the source substandard?? Alasdair On 18 Jan 00, at 11:06, John H. McCartney wrote: > > Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gargarin is the worst recording in the > > history of the planet. > > > I dunno, I'd say the cd release of the St. Albans gives it > rather a good run for the money. > > As for me, I've 2 copies of Yuri (bought 1 for $2.99, got the other > free), 1 of each cover. The one I bought was for the cover, it's the > one with the faux Warrior style cover, which I quite like. > > > > > scorch > -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jan 18 14:31:12 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:31:12 -0800 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:23:09 -0000, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: >Last night I was trying to think of any other commercially released >material that I may own of such substandard quality. I couldn't >think of anything. Today's e-mail has kindly reminded me that there >are comparably awful releases, also by HW (the Dave Anderson >stuff). I still can't think of anything so poor by any other band. To stay "on-topic" for the list, how about BOC 'Live 76'? -Doug (who REALLY likes 'Text of Festival', warts & all, but not 'Yuri Gagarin') ceres at sirius.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jan 18 14:41:52 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:41:52 +0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury CD track list In-Reply-To: <000301bf61de$6b1d9cc0$8a31893e@default>; from Adrian Parr on Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 05:49:14PM -0000 Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 05:49:14PM -0000, Adrian Parr wrote: > Can anyone tell me the revised track list for the Voiceprint Glastonbury > 1990 CD that was redone after initial copies went out with the wrong songs. > The one I've got has the tracks from the 1982 CD (well second disc anyway) Adrian, it's: Magic of the Earth [Bridget poem intro, mostly inaudible] Angels of Death Golden Void Brainstorm The Door [another largely inaudible Bridget poem] Ejection Sword of Dawn The Assassins of Allah Dreamworker [this is the `Acid Test' version with the techno backing] Shouldn't Do That Images HTH. Yours, Jon -- /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | =====================================================================| |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| \______________________________________________________________________/ From clemens at TRAIL.COM Tue Jan 18 14:51:31 2000 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:51:31 -0700 Subject: HW@Glastonbury? Message-ID: well, the banner at Hawkwind Mission Control has been updated urging a vote cast on their behalf- so they do have an interest in being there. Now if anyone knows where the rest of the graphics disappeared to... the other Mark L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Jan 18 14:28:20 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:28:20 -0500 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: >On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:23:09 -0000, Alasdair Macdonald > wrote: >>Last night I was trying to think of any other commercially released >>material that I may own of such substandard quality. I couldn't >>think of anything. Today's e-mail has kindly reminded me that there >>are comparably awful releases, also by HW (the Dave Anderson >>stuff). I still can't think of anything so poor by any other band. > >To stay "on-topic" for the list, how about BOC 'Live 76'? Yeah, but I really like Live '76.... the Astronomy on there is worth the price alone... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 15:45:05 2000 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:45:05 -0000 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: Subject: Re: HW: Live '79 Complete > The CD package may say "Collectors Series" but it does *NOT* > say "Official Bootleg". A flyer I collected from the November shows > does say "Official Bootleg". Given that I bought Live '79 Complete > in HMV, I suppose any newbie could have bought it - and I suppose > that experience would put them off HW / Voiceprint for life. *That*, I > guess, is my problem with this package. (And it makes me very > wary of the remaining releases). While I also was hugely disappointed by the sound on Complete `79 (I assumed it would be a extended version of the normal album from the same source tapes - how silly of me), I have rationalised these releases like this. If I was at a record fair and saw a Hawkwind bootleg of this (or any) show, would I buy it? Yes. At least in the case of the voiceprint releases the right people hopefully get some money from it which will hopefully allow them to continue to record and tour. I agree, some sort of warning would be in order but it wouldn`t actually stop me from buying it. By the way, Many of the large chains seem to be selling the collectors series for ?16.99 but a shop near me does them for ?10.99 so it pays to shop around! Si From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Jan 18 15:50:07 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:50:07 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Theme Loading In-Reply-To: <007a01bf61e8$e7618c60$895a883e@timsteph> from "Tim Stephenson" at Jan 18, 0 07:19:11 pm Message-ID: http://www.themeworld.com search for hawkwind.zip ;-) > > Thanks Karen, got it! > > Now then, what was the address for the theme itself again please > > T > > np - Parallel or 90 Degrees - The Time Capsule > From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Jan 17 21:10:40 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:10:40 +0000 Subject: HW:Re Kittyhawks In-Reply-To: <3883A3BE.53869127@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: At 23:20 17.01.2000 +0000, you wrote: >I was just an innocent young secretary in Edinburgh at >the time trying to hide "Warrior on the Edge of Time" from the horrified >ears of my parents. > >Sigh. Weren't those the days. >jill But as Lemmy said, "What's the point of rock'n'roll if it doesn't piss off your parents?". ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Jan 18 16:31:41 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:31:41 -0500 Subject: HW:Re Kittyhawks In-Reply-To: <3883A3BE.53869127@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 11:20:30PM +0000 Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 11:20:30PM +0000, Jill wrote: > [...] I was just an innocent young secretary in Edinburgh at > the time trying to hide "Warrior on the Edge of Time" from the horrified > ears of my parents. Bet it didn't horrify them nearly as much as Sonic Attack :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 17:28:42 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:28:42 -0000 Subject: Clive Deamer Message-ID: Don't think that this is the same guy. I saw Clive playing with The Big Town Playboys in Edinburgh and Glasgow 6/7 years back. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Jarrett To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 16 January 2000 23:54 Subject: Re: HW : Glastonbury voting >On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 05:09:23PM -0500, K Henderson wrote: > >> So what the hell difference does it make...the only thing I see is that the >> people running the vote can tell how many fans are networked together for >> any particular group (and how clever they are). Then that *might* be a >> proxy for how many are likely to take the effort to travel 1000 miles to >> Glasters to see that group. Any true band popularity rating culled from >> this would be worthless. Note that the Porcupine Tree list is down for >> maintenance right now...I don't think they have a single vote, do they? > > Is that damn list ever _up_? Mind you, given the times they've >had of it there the last couple of tries I doubt somehow that PT will be >over-eager to appear. Though of course if they were invited I doubt >Snapper would be too pleased if they tried to refuse. > >> P.S. I'm guessing that *all* of the bands are effectively 'write-ins', as >> they just keep adding on more and more. Who the hell is Morecheeba? > > Well, they actually do exist... They're a London (I think) >trip-hop band who turned out a supremely annoying track called `Tapeloop' >a few years back but other than that have at least as much to recommend >them as any other trip-hop type band. > > Except Portishead of course, because they have an ex-Hawkwind >member. Did anyone else know this? Their drummer's Clive Deamer. This >means that on my attempt at a complete Relations List I have to feature >not only Portishead but also Roni Size & Reprazent (ick!). Mr. Deamer has >a lot to answer for... Yours, > Jon > >-- > /______________________________________________________________________\ > | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | > | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | > | =====================================================================| > |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| > \______________________________________________________________________/ > From novadrive at HOME.COM Tue Jan 18 17:38:03 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:38:03 -0700 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete In-Reply-To: <200001181924.TAA07858@camelot.netcom.net.uk> Message-ID: > Anyway, the booklet is nice. > > Alasdair > Except that it adds nothing that the original tour program doesn't have, which is bigger and looks a whole lot better. And the CD booklet doesn't have the "Lasers: Patrice Warener" picture or the discography with the "Also awaiting release: 'Dave Brocks Sonic Assassins' 'Warlords Of Space' Weird Records '79" teaser at the bottom. Also, Denis O'Regan's photo credits are missing, and the band photos are washed-out and contrasty. I do rather like the inside of Glastonbury '90, though. Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> From novadrive at HOME.COM Tue Jan 18 17:45:28 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:45:28 -0700 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete In-Reply-To: <200001181928.TAA08276@camelot.netcom.net.uk> Message-ID: Nope, "Live - St. Albans: U.K. Winter Tour 1979" (http://home.clara.net/adawson/livestal.html) is a fairly worthless bootleg, apart from having New Jerusalem. Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> > > > St Albans being the "original" Live '79? I have an (original) prerecord > cassette of that, and it sounds no worse than any other prerecord > cassette of the time. Is the CD version badly mastered, or is the > source substandard?? > > Alasdair > > > > On 18 Jan 00, at 11:06, John H. McCartney wrote: > > > > Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gargarin is the worst recording in the > > > history of the planet. > > > > > > I dunno, I'd say the cd release of the St. Albans gives it > > rather a good run for the money. > > > > As for me, I've 2 copies of Yuri (bought 1 for $2.99, got the other > > free), 1 of each cover. The one I bought was for the cover, it's the > > one with the faux Warrior style cover, which I quite like. > > > > > > > > > > scorch > > > > > -- > Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 > Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com > > alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) > From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Tue Jan 18 17:47:59 2000 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:47:59 -0500 Subject: BOC gig in Hollywood./HW Message-ID: Is anyone on the list going to the BOC show at either the Key Club in Hollywood or the show in Anaheim? Would like to meet up. Also Kris, if I can be of any help bringing HW to the west coast, let me know. L.A. Dan Ductor dductor at neuus.jnj.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 17:52:41 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:52:41 -0000 Subject: (Revisited) Re: Re: HW: Collection CDs Message-ID: Looks like we've returned to this thread again. The problem is one of quality control, and if people buy shite then shite will be released. I'm not a collector. I want good music. If the collectors out there continue to buy stuff regardless then we're always going to have this problem. Just release a good studio lp a do a good tour, what's wrong with that. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Tim Stephenson To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 18 January 2000 15:06 Subject: Re: HW: Collection CDs >A lot of dissatisfaction around eh! I'm looking at a complete list of these >'collection' CDs in the CDS Dundee catalogue. > >I'm not such a Hawknut that I want anything and everything. For sound >quality (firstly) and something not too similar to the main live albums of >that time(79, stonehenge, chronicles, Palace Springs)(secondly) what do the >committee recommend? > >T > >PS just got my first Darxtar album - Sju. Quite nice..... but thats it - >quite nice. Slightly disapointed. I actually prefer Dark Star! (thanks >Keith) >Hey, Thread idea. What other bands have confusingly close names. I >remember the media stirred fuss in the seventies between Steely Dan and >Steeleye Span. What others? > From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Jan 18 18:18:57 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:18:57 +0000 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000118113112.00939670@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: At 11:31 18.01.2000 -0800, you wrote: >On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:23:09 -0000, Alasdair Macdonald > wrote: >>Last night I was trying to think of any other commercially released >>material that I may own of such substandard quality. I couldn't >>think of anything. Today's e-mail has kindly reminded me that there >>are comparably awful releases, also by HW (the Dave Anderson >>stuff). I still can't think of anything so poor by any other band. > >To stay "on-topic" for the list, how about BOC 'Live 76'? > > -Doug (who REALLY likes 'Text of Festival', warts & all, but not 'Yuri >Gagarin') > ceres at sirius.com I'll go along with 'Live 76' though as per A.A.'s comment, I wouldn't dispute the quality of the performance: I would also refer the greybeards around here to Ducks Deluxe's farewell live album - phoooeeee on the sound front, and I have a recording of the Mahler #8 that sounds like it was done with a dictaphone! ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 18:20:33 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:20:33 +0000 Subject: HW:Re Kittyhawks Message-ID: Eric Siegerman wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 11:20:30PM +0000, Jill wrote: > > [...] I was just an innocent young secretary in Edinburgh at > > the time trying to hide "Warrior on the Edge of Time" from the horrified > > ears of my parents. > > Bet it didn't horrify them nearly as much as Sonic Attack :-) I'd left home and moved into my own place by then - mainly so I could stay up really late and play Hawkwind whenever I wanted! This is true 8-) jill -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From novadrive at HOME.COM Tue Jan 18 18:43:13 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:43:13 -0700 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete In-Reply-To: <000301bf6205$b7656fa0$36730918@chnd1.az.home.com> Message-ID: Actually, after having just relistened to it, and comparing it to "Complete '79," it's not as bad as I thought... Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> > > > Nope, "Live - St. Albans: U.K. Winter Tour 1979" > (http://home.clara.net/adawson/livestal.html) is a fairly > worthless bootleg, > apart from having New Jerusalem. > > Kevin Sommers > > primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > > < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> > > > > > > > > St Albans being the "original" Live '79? I have an (original) prerecord > > cassette of that, and it sounds no worse than any other prerecord > > cassette of the time. Is the CD version badly mastered, or is the > > source substandard?? > > > > Alasdair > > > > > > > > On 18 Jan 00, at 11:06, John H. McCartney wrote: > > > > > > Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gargarin is the worst recording in the > > > > history of the planet. > > > > > > > > > I dunno, I'd say the cd release of the St. Albans gives it > > > rather a good run for the money. > > > > > > As for me, I've 2 copies of Yuri (bought 1 for $2.99, got the other > > > free), 1 of each cover. The one I bought was for the cover, it's the > > > one with the faux Warrior style cover, which I quite like. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scorch > > > > > > > > > -- > > Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 > > Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com > > > > alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) > > > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jan 18 23:05:19 2000 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:05:19 +0800 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete In-Reply-To: <200001181924.TAA07858@camelot.netcom.net.uk> Message-ID: > The CD package may say "Collectors Series" but it does *NOT* > say "Official Bootleg". A flyer I collected from the November shows > does say "Official Bootleg". Given that I bought Live '79 Complete > in HMV, I suppose any newbie could have bought it - and I suppose > that experience would put them off HW / Voiceprint for life. *That*, I > guess, is my problem with this package. (And it makes me very > wary of the remaining releases). > > Last night I was trying to think of any other commercially released > material that I may own of such substandard quality. I couldn't > think of anything. Today's e-mail has kindly reminded me that there > are comparably awful releases, also by HW (the Dave Anderson > stuff). I still can't think of anything so poor by any other band. What > is the lesson here???? > I think record companies (and bands) should try to be more carefull with material they release. If someone who has never heard, but was recommended Hawkwind was to only find these recordings (which tends to be the case here in West Australia), they will be completely put off! William From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 18 13:51:24 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:51:24 -0000 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: > Hi - I bought this on Sunday (US$25) and I was just about to post the same thing! No way am I going to buy 10 crappy sounding Collector's Series releases just to get that free release - which is probably just as crappy. > Ooohhh, don't start that thread again!!! :-) From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jan 19 03:37:50 2000 From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juba N) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:37:50 GMT Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: Hi > >>Last night I was trying to think of any other commercially released > >>material that I may own of such substandard quality. I couldn't > >>think of anything. Today's e-mail has kindly reminded me that there > >>are comparably awful releases, also by HW (the Dave Anderson > >>stuff). I still can't think of anything so poor by any other band. > > > >To stay "on-topic" for the list, how about BOC 'Live 76'? How about Lloyd-Langton Group`s first offering,wasn?t it called "Outside The Law"? That`s a really crappy recording,although the music is pretty good. Juba ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Jan 19 04:17:12 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:17:12 EST Subject: HW: California BS 2?? Message-ID: In a message dated 1/18/00 2:49:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM writes: > Also Kris, if I can be of any help bringing HW to the west coast, let me > know. SAME HERE!! Chuck From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Wed Jan 19 07:50:51 2000 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:50:51 -0800 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:51:24 IAN ABRAHAMS wrote: >> Hi - I bought this on Sunday (US$25) and I was just about to post the >same thing! No way am I going to buy 10 crappy sounding Collector's Series >releases just to get that free release - which is probably just as crappy. >Ooohhh, don't start that thread again!!! :-) :-) OK. Does anyone else have the sneaking suspicion that this "free" CD will turn out to be the Hawkwind '97 Live CD that was sold to passport holders? MWood NP: Robert Rich - _Rainforest_ --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From micci at SCI.FI Wed Jan 19 10:12:09 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:12:09 +0200 Subject: OFF: CDs/LPs spotted, Bay Area stuff, etc. Message-ID: Hi! >One of the newly-released Twink (the Pink Fairies/Pretty >Things/Tomorrow/Pinkwind/etc. drummer, of course, not the keyboard roadie!) >albums, 'Unreleased Experimental Tapes' (or something along those lines), >is incredible! It's unfinished tapes from 69/70 of (mostly) heavy drumming >and completely freaked-out Moog synthesizer noise (it was described to me >as sounding like Throbbing Gristle in parts, and indeed it does), along >with a few psych song bits that sound like outtakes from 'Think Pink'. >There's another new album of old (70s/80s, I think) Twink stuff that I >haven't yet checked out, given the dodginess of some of that guy's work. >But this 'Experimental Tapes' one is definitely worth it (as long as you're >into electronic weirdness). Yes, whole name is The Lost Experimental Recordings 1970. I think it?s good. Very surprising album from Twink. It?s availabel both formats LP and CD. LP is g/f. >And, one of those Italian labels that's been reissuing cool stuff left & >right (Get Back, Abraxas, etc.) has put out a legit (I think?) reissue of >the Sam Gopal 'Escalator' album. I picked up a vinyl reissue (gatefold, >heavy vinyl), so I'm not sure if it's available on CD. Sounds better than >the previous bootleg CD, as far as I can tell. Real nice 60s fuzz/psych >music with tablas instead of a drumkit, and guitar/lead vocals by Lemmy >(post-Rockin' Vicars, pre-Opal Butterfly). This one is also available on CD. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jan 19 07:55:10 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:55:10 -0000 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: > Ooohhh, don't start that thread again!!! Dont agree. Here we are, big fans of a long standing band and 10 new CDs get released. We should of collectively 'died and gone to heaven'. Instead you've got a number of disgruntled people and a lot more like me that darent buy any, partly cos of the cost but mainly for the fear of disappoinment. Its ridiculous. T From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Jan 19 11:21:47 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:21:47 -0500 Subject: HW tree (read if on the tree) In-Reply-To: <387E11C3.EFD60F0A@uswest.net> Message-ID: (Sorry for the public broadcast, but I don't have the e-mail addresses of these folks [except Pam's].) On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Dan Witt wrote: => Leaves; YOU are responsible for contacting your branch and working out a => trade for your copy of the show (whatever trade you can work out, maybe => video if you can't do cdr). There will be no sales of the show, if you [...] => Paul Mather Paul Mather => => Stephen Lindsey => Pam Wheaton => Bryan Young Leaves, I now have my copy of the show from Dan. Please get in touch if you're still interested. Cheers, Paul. PS: Kudos to Dan for adding yet another successful entry to the roster of "BOC-L Projects." e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Wed Jan 19 11:25:13 2000 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:25:13 +0100 Subject: attention: IAN ABRAHAMS - JEREMY DACOMBE In-Reply-To: <000501bf6295$5b9f9f20$5f04883e@timsteph> Message-ID: if you want still copies of the show from the latest tour (leicester), then contact me. you were both leaves in the cdr tree. The show is two discs, both about 73 minutes, you can see the track list on the artwork at kevin sommer's sight. http://members.home.net/novadrive/ This is where you can download and print out the artwork for the show. Andre cosmos Dennis Regenbrecht Ian Abrahams Jeremy Dacombe From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Wed Jan 19 11:27:19 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:27:19 -0600 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: Does anyone else have the sneaking suspicion that this "free" CD will turn out to be the Hawkwind '97 Live CD that was sold to passport holders? Yep ! ! I'll bet Dave has about 10 cases of 500 each sitting down in the basement and needs an avenue to get rid of them all. From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Wed Jan 19 11:41:55 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:41:55 -0600 Subject: HW tree (read if on the tree) Message-ID: > PS: Kudos to Dan for adding yet another successful entry to the roster > of "BOC-L Projects." Thanks, but my work was minimal. They real thanks goes to the kind taper and the artwork designer. From micci at SCI.FI Wed Jan 19 11:55:55 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:55:55 +0200 Subject: NIK:5.15 & Nik Message-ID: Hi! There is new CD call Thousand Days Of Yesterdays- A Tribute To Captain Beyond and there is one 5.15 w/ Nik song. CD is from Record Heaven label. E-Mail: info at recordheaven.net or www.recordheaven.net Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Wed Jan 19 12:40:09 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:40:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete In-Reply-To: <000501bf6295$5b9f9f20$5f04883e@timsteph> Message-ID: Hi At 12:55 19.1.2000 +0000, you wrote: >Here we are, big fans of a long standing band and 10 new CDs >get released. We should of collectively 'died and gone to heaven'. Instead >you've got a number of disgruntled people and a lot more like me that darent >buy any, partly cos of the cost but mainly for the fear of disappoinment. >Its ridiculous. I agree! But on the other hand: Why does Dave Brock release such kind of "bootleg" stuff? We are all sure that he has got in his vaults tons of master tapes from hundreds of gigs Bernhard From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Jan 18 18:25:24 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:25:24 +0000 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete In-Reply-To: <00ce01bf61f4$eb8d8c60$0100a8c0@vossnet.co.uk> Message-ID: At 20:45 18.01.2000 -0000, you wrote: >Subject: Re: HW: Live '79 Complete > >By the way, Many of the large chains seem to be selling the collectors >series for ?16.99 but a shop near me does them for ?10.99 so it pays to shop >around! > >Si > Those in the E.Midlands (and presumably those regularly in central London) should check Selectadisc (Nottingham & Berwick(?) St.) - I can't remember what I DID pay for '79, but it certainly wasn't ?16.99 ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Wed Jan 19 13:45:40 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:45:40 -0600 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: >By the way, Many of the large chains seem to be selling the collectors >series for ?16.99 but a shop near me does them for ?10.99 so it pays to shop >around! Right! That's why Hawkman Music gives you more for your money! The double sets are just a low $16.99 (?10.48) (NO TAX ! ! ) www.intplsrv.net/hawkman Hawkman From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Wed Jan 19 15:44:21 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:44:21 -0600 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: > We are all sure that he has got in his vaults tons of master tapes > from hundreds of gigs > > Are you guessing? I would doubt he has many soundboard tapes. Most established bands don't bother with taping their shows. I wouldn't think think many venues were equipped to make a decent soundboard recording in the 70's, and I can't see Dave bringing in a reel to reel and setting everything up. Even if there was some soundboard tapes, they still would not be multi track, which means no adjusting the instruments in the mix. The chicago show from 74 had to be one of the only pro taped shows just sitting around waiting to be released. I'm fine with releases like live 79, if they would just put some indicator on the packaging, maybe "lo-fi recording". But I suppose the record companies want to sell copies so they don't label them as such. From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Wed Jan 19 16:23:42 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:23:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete In-Reply-To: <38862225.BC16B6B1@uswest.net> Message-ID: Hi At 14:44 19.1.2000 -0600, you wrote: >Are you guessing? Not really >I would doubt he has many soundboard tapes. I do not doubt. Most of the German gigs here between 1991 and 1996 were tapes. I know that because most of the gig I stood either close to the stage or very close to the mixingdesk board. And now you can guess what I saw: Lots of gigs were taped by the band!!! Even small venues. Why shouldn't they do it in the UK or USA ? And so I guess that they did it in the past and will do it in the future... Bernhard From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jan 19 17:42:37 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:42:37 EST Subject: OFF: VH1 TOP 100 ROCK AND ROLL SONGS Message-ID: VH1 : 100 Greatest Songs of Rock n' Roll "<>" From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Wed Jan 19 18:03:48 2000 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:03:48 -0500 Subject: BOC: Cult Classic on the air?!? Message-ID: I just heard the Cult Classic version of "Burnin' For You" on one of the local classic rock radio stations. I have no idea why a dj would play a tune from CC, especially one of the big 3, when there are so many compliations with the original tracks on them. It was interesting to hear, but I do like the original version much better. Has anyone else ever heard a CC tune on the air? Brian From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Jan 19 18:36:47 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:36:47 -0500 Subject: OFF: VH1 TOP 100 ROCK AND ROLL SONGS In-Reply-To: <55.1190f5e.25b797dd@aol.com>; from DASLUD@AOL.COM on Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 05:42:37PM -0500 Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 05:42:37PM -0500, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > VH1 : 100 Greatest > Songs of Rock n' Roll Well, no Silver Machine, or even Reaper. But hey ... at least Hey Jude didn't come first! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jan 19 18:50:23 2000 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Your Name) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:50:23 -0500 Subject: BOC Helen Wheels Message-ID: It is with heavy heart that I must note the passage of my good friend, collaborator, and lover, who was as close to me as any other person living or dead. Helen (Wheels) Robbins: May 6, 1949 January 17, 2000 The world has lost another great artist. May her spirit live on! From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Wed Jan 19 19:08:20 2000 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:08:20 -0800 Subject: No subject Message-ID: At 06:50 PM 01/19/2000 -0500, you wrote: >It is with heavy heart that I must note the passage of my good friend, >collaborator, and lover, who was as close to me as any other person living or >dead. Helen (Wheels) Robbins: May 6, 1949 January 17, 2000 The world has lost >another great artist. May her spirit live on! X-Sender: bthalligan at mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:06:45 -0500 To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List From: Brian Halligan Subject: Re: BOC Helen Wheels In-Reply-To: <38864DBF.CE376B2C at mindspring.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:50 PM 01/19/2000 -0500, you wrote: From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Wed Jan 19 19:19:23 2000 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:19:23 -0500 Subject: Helen Wheels Message-ID: Sorry about the garbled message earlier.... From her Web site www.helenwheels.com >On Monday, January 17, 2000, Helen Wheels passed away in Ithaca, NY. Her family >and friends thank all those who have expressed their condolences and sent their love >in this tragic time. > >Her website team will continue to maintain this website in the near future. Stop by >often, as we will be posting some of the most recent photos we have of this beloved >woman and any news we have to share. > >We encourage you to use the Guestbook and Message Board as forums for expressing >your thoughts, well wishes, and to send encouragement to bereaved fellow fans, >friends, and family members during this difficult time. I'm glad I was able to see Helen Wheels and her Skeleton Crew in concert. She contributed a lot to the intelligent toughness of BOC and The Brain Surgeons. And her own material (on the "Archetype" CD) is just as powerful. It's a sad day for BOC fans. Brian Al wrote: >It is with heavy heart that I must note the passage of my good friend, >collaborator, and lover, who was as close to me as any other person living or >dead. Helen (Wheels) Robbins: May 6, 1949 January 17, 2000 The world has lost >another great artist. May her spirit live on! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Joe.Lofft at ITEC.MAIL.SUNY.EDU Wed Jan 19 21:52:55 2000 From: Joe.Lofft at ITEC.MAIL.SUNY.EDU (Lofft, Joe) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:52:55 -0500 Subject: BOC: Live 1976 DVD for Sale Message-ID: I'm selling my DVD copy of Live 1976 for $10.00 plus shipping. If your interested, drop me an email. Joe Lofft joe.lofft at itec.mail.suny.edu From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Thu Jan 20 00:20:02 2000 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:20:02 EST Subject: BOC Helen Wheels Message-ID: Wow, Al. Sorry to hear about Helen. Rock on upstairs, Helen. Ric From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jan 19 14:33:48 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:33:48 -0000 Subject: HW: Live '79 Complete Message-ID: I wrote: > > Ooohhh, don't start that thread again!!! > Tim commented: > Dont agree. Here we are, big fans of a long standing band and 10 new CDs > get released. We should of collectively 'died and gone to heaven'. Instead > you've got a number of disgruntled people and a lot more like me that darent > buy any, partly cos of the cost but mainly for the fear of disappoinment. > Its ridiculous. Yep, really you are right. How many years have the band been complaining about poor quality semi/un-official releases. Is there a bit of "if you can beat them, join them" going on? Ian From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Thu Jan 20 03:20:00 2000 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:20:00 -0800 Subject: Hawkwind 97 & Punkcast (was Re: HW: Live '79 Complete) Message-ID: Stephan Spiegel wrote: > > Does anyone else have the sneaking suspicion that this "free" CD will turn > out to be the Hawkwind '97 Live CD that was sold to passport holders? > > Yep ! ! I'll bet Dave has about 10 cases > of 500 each sitting down in the basement > and needs an avenue to get rid of them all. Man! I need a copy of Hawkwind 97 and I don't know how to get one! Is the passport option still open? By the way, I was toying around with burning the Punkcast thing on cdr so it's more convenient to listen to, but I really can't stand mono recordings. Here's a couple technical questions I have after doing a little searching on the web: 1) Is there any freeware (or non-crippleware) software to convert Ra to wav format? I found one called ra2wav.zip, but I'm sure I'll only use it the once, and don't want to pay for it for one usage. The crippleware free download inserts a voice saying "demo version" repeatedly into the sound mix. 2) Is there any better way to simulate stereo besides the delay & invert method? This does give the illusion of depth, and eliminates the scary feeling that all this mono music is sitting right in front of your forehead, but it also seems to give the music a subtle metallic flavor. (The method goes like this: on the left channel, paste-mix the same data but with a 4 msec delay. Do the same thing on the right channel, but invert the data before pasting it, and then again use the same 4 msec delay.) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Young CANADA blyoung AT bigfoot DOT com ----------------------------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/Area51/7118 SF Reading Club http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6568 Hawkwind ----------------------------------------------------------- "20 minutes goes by pretty fast when you're on a breakaway" From m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK Wed Jan 19 19:26:32 2000 From: m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:26:32 +0000 Subject: Clive Deamer In-Reply-To: <001b01bf6203$76928140$6135883e@default> Message-ID: > Don't think that this is the same guy. I saw Clive playing with The Big Town > Playboys in Edinburgh and Glasgow 6/7 years back. However Clive does come from Bath, so it isn't entirely unlikely that he would end up playing for a band from Portishead. If he has played with HW he could play for anyone. Does abnyone know how he met up with the HW crowd? Surely there must be some link to someone else? Mike w > > Except Portishead of course, because they have an ex-Hawkwind > >member. Did anyone else know this? Their drummer's Clive Deamer. This > >means that on my attempt at a complete Relations List I have to feature > >not only Portishead but also Roni Size & Reprazent (ick!). Mr. Deamer has > >a lot to answer for... Yours, > > Jon From Modulus6bass at AOL.COM Thu Jan 20 03:57:24 2000 From: Modulus6bass at AOL.COM (Mark Stears) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 03:57:24 EST Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: Just returned home from Columbus, after witnessing the 1st BOC show of the new century, as confirmed by Eric Bloom onstage. The Eye Of The Hurricane, a cut from the upcoming, but as yet untitled new album was debuted as well and was well recieved by a packed house of adoring fans. On the whole, a great show, just as would be expected. -Mark From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Thu Jan 20 01:23:29 2000 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 06:23:29 +0000 Subject: BOC: Cult Classic on the air?!? In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000119175942.0095cb80@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > > Has anyone else ever heard a CC tune on the air? > Yes, when it first came out, a station in Kansas City actually played both versions of Don't Fear the Reaper back to back and said "...can you tell the difference between these two versions..." It was pretty cool to hear them both together, at the time I hadn't gotten Cult Classics yet, so I, of course, had to rush right out and get it. But other than that I haven't heard any other cuts from Cult Classic on the air. Don Farmer. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jan 20 06:55:17 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:55:17 EDT Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 20 Jan 00, at 3:57, Mark Stears wrote: > Just returned home from Columbus, after witnessing the 1st BOC > show of > the new century, as confirmed by Eric Bloom onstage. The Eye Of The > Hurricane, a cut from the upcoming, but as yet untitled new album was > debuted as well and was well recieved by a packed house of adoring > fans. On the whole, a great show, just as would be expected. -Mark Wow! What sort of tune? Title sounds like an uptempo rocker... theo From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Thu Jan 20 07:57:13 2000 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:57:13 -0000 Subject: TEST - Sorry ! Message-ID: TEST MESSAGE Is I getting thru ? From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jan 20 06:58:19 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:58:19 EDT Subject: Helen Wheels In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000119191817.009613a0@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > I'm glad I was able to see Helen Wheels and her Skeleton Crew in > concert. She contributed a lot to the intelligent toughness of BOC and > The Brain Surgeons. And her own material (on the "Archetype" CD) is > just as powerful. It's a sad day for BOC fans. Me too. I saw HW twice, each time opening for tBS. How ironic that someone who appeared to be the picture of health, and was such a dynamic performer, should fall at an early age. She will be sorely missed... theo From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jan 20 10:05:21 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:05:21 PST Subject: OFF: This is disturbing. Message-ID: This is not strictly relevant, or even loosely relevant, but innarresting none the less... A note to those in the private sector: Can you imagine working at the following Company? It has a little over 500 employees with the following statistics: *29 have been accused of spousal abuse *7 have been arrested for fraud *19 have been accused of writing bad checks *117 have bankrupted at least two businesses *3 have been arrested for assault *71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit *14 have been arrested on drug-related charges *8 have been arrested for shoplifting *21 are current defendants in lawsuits *In 1998 alone, 84 were stopped for drunk driving Can you guess which organization this is? Give up? It's the 535 members of your United States Congress. The same group that perpetually cranks out hundreds upon hundreds of new laws designed to keep the rest of us in line ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Thu Jan 20 10:24:23 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:24:23 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind 97 & Punkcast (was Re: HW: Live '79 Complete) In-Reply-To: <3886C530.586@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: To the best of my knowledge the RA2Wave and the associated Streambox ripper (same company) are the only game in town. Email me privately mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com for a possible solution to your quandary about paying for a one time use. Stephan Spiegel wrote: 1) Is there any freeware (or non-crippleware) software to convert Ra to wav format? I found one called ra2wav.zip, but I'm sure I'll only use it the once, and don't want to pay for it for one usage. The crippleware free download inserts a voice saying "demo version" repeatedly into the sound mix. From johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jan 20 10:31:42 2000 From: johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM (Johnny Firich) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:31:42 GMT Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: I thought the new album was going to be titled "Ezekiel's wheel" and that the cool artwork (already done in 1998 I think) would be used? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Thu Jan 20 05:50:07 2000 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:50:07 +0000 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: > > Just returned home from Columbus, after witnessing the 1st BOC > > show of > > the new century, as confirmed by Eric Bloom onstage. The Eye Of The > > Hurricane, a cut from the upcoming, but as yet untitled new album was > > debuted A new tune?! And so the BOC fan within awakes. . . -- Nick From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jan 20 10:56:51 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:56:51 -0500 Subject: BOC: Col's 1/19/00 Message-ID: Hi Folks... Braved the snowstorm to travel the whole 2 miles to get from Grandview Heights to the Newport Theater on the east side of campus (OSU). Smartly, I decided not to drive given the snow and the likelihood of passing my personal 3 drink limit, but had to hope the show let out early as the buses ceased at midnight (not a problem it turned out). Don't remember who the warmup act was, but I walked in just to hear them bashing out the very final note. No great loss I imagine. I really like the Newport for its layout and listening options (up/down, left/right, back/front), which is really necessary because the sound isn't often perfect and you need to move about to get a good spot. (Motorhead never works though...it's just loud wherever you go) :) Last night wasn't bad, the mix was pretty good after the first two songs, but Buck (gtr) was a little louder than the other instruments for some reason. "DFtR" came out really nice in the end, as they (of course) turned all the other instruments up a bit (up to 11 I guess), and so the mix was right on. I was glad they had the balcony open (mainly because I know the beer lines there are always shorter than on the main floor), but that also meant there were enough folks there to require its use. (I thought the snow might really bring down the attendance.) The set wasn't a total shock, and the show went similarly to others in the recent past. Though I was happy to hear at least 3 songs I hadn't heard them do before, perhaps 4 (I don't remember hearing "HoE" before, but then I first saw them in 1983, and my memory isn't *that* good). "GAoL" I suppose was the biggest surprise, and after a bit of condescending speech from EB ("A capella means without instruments" or something), they did do a very nice job on the intro. The new track, "TEotH" was kinda AC/DCish, with EB on vocals. Not too bad, but not a show-stopper either. I would've liked to have heard one or two more from HF, like Hammer Back for instance, but at least "HM" was nice to hear live. Hearing Allan do the intro to "JC" always brings back memories of the time I saw them in Cleveland (in the very cozy Peabody's Underground), when right in the middle of the big flourish, the power to his keyboard cut suddenly. I doubt he was humored by it, but I thought it was rather funny. Well, here's the setlist from the show (in only approximate order): roughly 100 minutes Stairway to the Stars ME262 Harvest Moon ETI Joan Crawford Buck's Boogie Cities on Flame Burnin' for You Harvester of Eyes Last Days o' May The Eye of the Hurricane Golden Age of Leather Godzilla (w/ bass/drum solos) Buck solo intro to: Don't Fear The Reaper ---- D&S Keith H. (FAA) From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jan 20 10:35:45 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:35:45 EDT Subject: BOC: Col's 1/19/00 In-Reply-To: <200001201551.KAA04670@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: > Godzilla (w/ bass/drum solos) Who's playing the drums nowadays? Before I left for vacation, someone posted that Bobby had lesft for another band? theo From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Thu Jan 20 14:02:10 2000 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:02:10 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind 97 & Punkcast (was Re: HW: Live '79 Complete) Message-ID: Subject: Hawkwind 97 & Punkcast (was Re: HW: Live '79 Complete) > 1) Is there any freeware (or non-crippleware) software to convert Ra to > wav format? I found one called ra2wav.zip, but I'm sure I'll only use > it the once, and don't want to pay for it for one usage. The > crippleware free download inserts a voice saying "demo version" > repeatedly into the sound mix. if you search hard enough you can find an older copy of this prog which doesn`t do this. V.1 I believe. It took me a while to find it but it is out there. Wish I could tell you where! Si From Modulus6bass at AOL.COM Thu Jan 20 16:06:36 2000 From: Modulus6bass at AOL.COM (Mark Stears) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:06:36 EST Subject: BOC: Col's 1/19/00 Message-ID: Bobby was still on the throne, and playing very well. No news here on his future plans, as I did not get to speak to him personally. -Mark From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Jan 20 16:27:11 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:27:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote Message-ID: WOW!!!!! HAWKWIND on position 1 (283 votes) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Marillion on 2 (281 votes) 20.01.2000 (22:26h CET) Bernhard From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jan 20 16:39:40 2000 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:39:40 -0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote Message-ID: Remind me of the URL - I haven't voted from home yet... --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernhard Pospiech To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 9:27 PM Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote > WOW!!!!! > > HAWKWIND on position 1 (283 votes) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Marillion on 2 (281 votes) > > 20.01.2000 (22:26h CET) > > > Bernhard From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jan 20 17:56:04 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:56:04 +0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote Message-ID: Kevin Perry wrote: > > Remind me of the URL - I haven't voted from home yet... > www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/ or if that doesn't work try http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/index.shtml jill -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jan 20 18:27:06 2000 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:27:06 -0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote Message-ID: Thanks - 287 now, but... Radiohead 344 6.08% And I can think of few bands I'd less rather see anywhere. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 10:56 PM Subject: Re: HW: Glastonbury vote > Kevin Perry wrote: > > > > Remind me of the URL - I haven't voted from home yet... > > > www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/ > > or if that doesn't work try > > http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/index.shtml > > jill > > > -- > ====================================================================== > Jill Strobridge or > J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk > ====================================================================== From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Thu Jan 20 19:32:25 2000 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:32:25 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind 97 & Punkcast (was Re: HW: Live '79 Complete) In-Reply-To: <3886C530.586@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: Look at cool edit 96. It has a room-simulator thingie where you can set virtual left and right sources and virtual microphones (l+r) in the room, and it does open it up quite a bit. At 12:20 AM 1/20/00 -0800, you wrote: >Stephan Spiegel wrote: >> >> Does anyone else have the sneaking suspicion that this "free" CD will turn >> out to be the Hawkwind '97 Live CD that was sold to passport holders? >> >> Yep ! ! I'll bet Dave has about 10 cases >> of 500 each sitting down in the basement >> and needs an avenue to get rid of them all. > > >Man! I need a copy of Hawkwind 97 and I don't know how to get one! Is >the passport option still open? > > >By the way, I was toying around with burning the Punkcast thing on cdr >so it's more convenient to listen to, but I really can't stand mono >recordings. Here's a couple technical questions I have after doing a >little searching on the web: > >1) Is there any freeware (or non-crippleware) software to convert Ra to >wav format? I found one called ra2wav.zip, but I'm sure I'll only use >it the once, and don't want to pay for it for one usage. The >crippleware free download inserts a voice saying "demo version" >repeatedly into the sound mix. > >2) Is there any better way to simulate stereo besides the delay & >invert method? This does give the illusion of depth, and eliminates the >scary feeling that all this mono music is sitting right in front of your >forehead, but it also seems to give the music a subtle metallic flavor. > >(The method goes like this: on the left channel, paste-mix the same >data but with a 4 msec delay. Do the same thing on the right channel, >but invert the data before pasting it, and then again use the same 4 >msec delay.) > > >-- >----------------------------------------------------------- >Bryan Young CANADA blyoung AT bigfoot DOT com >----------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.geocities.com/Area51/7118 SF Reading Club > http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6568 Hawkwind >----------------------------------------------------------- >"20 minutes goes by pretty fast when you're on a breakaway" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jan 20 22:20:22 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:20:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Collector's Series Message-ID: Hi there... This is not (primarily) an addition to the debate over the pros and cons of the series (I haven't heard any of them yet, so I'm not one to comment at this point). But I just got Andy G's (Garibaldi, as opposed to Gilham) catalog and saw the breakdown of the series to come. And I wasn't sure if this was widely known to folks here. Coll. Ser. 1 - Complete Live 1979 (2CD) / Hammersmith 01.12.79 out now Coll. Ser. 2 - Live 1982 (2CD) / Hammersmith 13.11.82 out now Coll. Ser. 3 - Atomhenge 1976 (2CD) / ??? March 6 release Coll. Ser. 4 - Weird 101 / Sonic Assassins live 23.12.77 Barnstaple + DBrock solo tracks recorded at home in Devon, 1978-79 Coll. Ser. 5 - Weird 102 / Stonehenge Free Festival 23.6.77, Chicago - Riverside Theatre 12.3.78, plus 3 Hawklords tracks recorded at Rockfield (2-3/79) Coll. Ser. 6 - Weird 103 / more Stonehenge 23.6.77, plus Watchfield 8/75 and Rockfield studios, 9/77 Coll. Ser. 7 - Weird 104 / Hawklords Live 1978, the question in Andy's mind whether this is the same as the Hawklords Live on Dojo/Griffin. Coll. Ser. 8 - Weird 105 / Hammersmith Odeon 5.10.76 and 1977, plus studio tracks from 12/77 Coll. Ser. 9 - Weird 106 / One track (US studio 12/73), three tracks at Chalk Farm Roadhouse, London 13.2.72 (Greasy Truckers?), and the rest recorded at Maida Vale BBC studios on 18.8.70 and Playhouse Theatre, BBC Studios 19.4.71. Glastonbury '90 - Travellers Field, Glastonbury 5 AM. Dodgy recording! :) Nottingham '90 remix (2CD) - The 'Live Legends' gig at Nottingham 24.1.90 on one disc, plus a previously unreleased CD recorded at a different concert venue on the same tour as a bonus. March 6 release. Well, I don't remember hearing about this last one...this should be really nice. I love the music on the LL video, but (although it's amusing to see once or twice) I don't think I would like to watch the stage show over and over again so much. Plus I remember Alan telling me that they were disappointed that they weren't allowed to mix the recording properly, so I imagine that the sound quality should be even better on this one. I suppose this 'bonus' CD couldn't be the one given to the buyers of the complete Collectors Series, could it?! Anyway, I wonder if we should judge Voiceprint on the entire series rather than the one that everyone seems to think is crappy (Glastonbury). (I still can't tell how bad, or good, the other two are....some seem to think they're fine...others think they're crap...I'll wait and see for myself.) And as most of this other material is known to many here, we should already have a good idea of how this will end up, right? I can't say exactly, I have only heard one of the Weird tapes as it was (can't remember which one), not counting Weird 104 (if that *is* the Hawklords Live thingy...why would they release this again?), and an old bootleg LP that my brother has (Watchfield/Stonehenge), which I assume is Weird 103. (BTW, how rare is this thing?) I haven't heard that in ten years, so I've forgotten what it's like. Hash Cake '77 is from that, isn't it? Also, we were just talking about the Chicago 1978 show, in reference to the SotA on F&R II. So what's on the Weird 102 tape from this gig? Does that mean that entire show must exist somewhere, or as Bernhard suggests, in Dave's attic? Is the breakup/sale of Dave's guitar to Marc Sperhawk on tape somewhere? :) Where is Marc Sperhawk these days anyway, and does he still have the guitar? Was it the Warrior-paint job model? Final question...is the Atomhenge 1976 likely to be the same Atomhenge recording that was popping up on CD-R last year from somewhere in Scandinavia? (Or at least Henrik had copies available for a brief spell.) That's all...I hope the 'bonus CD' for all ten (what's the tenth, if there are nine plus two non-numbered?) will be Hawkwind Live in New Zealand 2K. :) Keith H. (FAA) From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 21 03:34:19 2000 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:34:19 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind websites Message-ID: Hello folks If anyone has a Hawkwind or related website, I'm about to list them in the Hawkwind book. Get in touch with your site name and address. I've got some listed on the Hawkeye site "Links Page" but if there are any others drop me an email within the next few days at: age.p at conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk P.S I seem to have broken links for the following sites. Anyone know if they're still around? "Brook's Hawkwind Page", "Hawkfrendz", and "Mike & Cathy's Homage To Hawkwind". All the best Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 21 04:15:01 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:15:01 +0000 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote In-Reply-To: <004701bf639d$de308400$a8c0a8c0@hudson> Message-ID: In message <004701bf639d$de308400$a8c0a8c0 at hudson>, Kevin Perry writes >Thanks - 287 now, but... > >Radiohead 344 6.08% > >And I can think of few bands I'd less rather see anywhere. oh, I can. Admittedly, I preferred the early stuff to the miserable-ist direction they've pursued but if it's them or West Life, I think I'd plump for Radiohead. I'd prefer Super Furry Animals though. or the Universal Pansies. Anyone heard the Universal Pansies album? I bought it because A) it's on Julian Cope's Head Heritage label and B) because it was touted as sounding like a cross between Hawkwind and Joy Division. Imagine my surprise when it really *did* sound like a cross between Hawkwind and Joy Division. Levitation era HW, to be precise. only with a funny accent -- Jon obCD Lindsay Muir's Untamed "It's All True" produced by Shel Talmy (Who/Kinks/Creation etc.) From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jan 21 04:47:59 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:47:59 -0000 Subject: HW: Collector's Series In-Reply-To: <200001210320.WAA14276@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: > Coll. Ser. 7 - Weird 104 / Hawklords Live 1978, the question in > Andy's mind > whether this is the same as the Hawklords Live on Dojo/Griffin. The original Weird 104 is quite different to the Live 1978 album. Much better too, imo. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jan 21 04:57:45 2000 From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juba N) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:57:45 GMT Subject: HW: Collector's Series Message-ID: > > Coll. Ser. 7 - Weird 104 / Hawklords Live 1978, the question in > > Andy's mind > > whether this is the same as the Hawklords Live on Dojo/Griffin. > >The original Weird 104 is quite different to the Live 1978 album. Much >better too, imo. > >-- Andy I agree.The Weird tape is superior to the Live CD. Juba ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Fri Jan 21 05:09:10 2000 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:09:10 +0100 Subject: AW: HW: Collector's Series Message-ID: >>The original Weird 104 is quite different to the Live 1978 album. Much >>better too, imo. >>-- Andy >I agree.The Weird tape is superior to the Live CD. The gig on the WEIRD104 tape is from PLYMOUTH, 23.11.1978 The gig on the HAWKLORDS LIVE CD is from UXBRIDGE, 24.11.1978 (very easy to recognize: Power failure (discribed in Krist Taits book) Bernhard From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Jan 20 08:27:41 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:27:41 -0500 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: But it still _is_ the 20th century. Call me a pedant, but if I ask for 10 pints I want them to fill more than 9 glasses ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Jan 21 06:30:01 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:30:01 -0000 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: Lightweight! ;-) R. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 1:27 PM Subject: Re: 1st BOC show of the new century! > But it still _is_ the 20th century. Call me a pedant, but if I ask > for 10 pints I want them to fill more than 9 glasses ;) > > Cheers, > Carl > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk > http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri Jan 21 08:35:40 2000 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:35:40 -0500 Subject: BOC: Various Message-ID: > > Has anyone else ever heard a CC tune on the air? Nope, but I know the CC versions of The Reaper and Burnin' were used in the movie "The Stoned Age". > > the new century, as confirmed by Eric Bloom onstage. The Eye Of The > > Hurricane, a cut from the upcoming, but as yet untitled new album was > > debuted as well and was well recieved by a packed house of adoring > > fans. On the whole, a great show, just as would be expected. -Mark > > Wow! What sort of tune? Title sounds like an uptempo rocker... I hear it's an Eric tune, in the style of Hammerback or See You in Black - haven't heard, but I assume the lyrics are John Shirley's (but don't know this for sure). > Me too. I saw HW twice, each time opening for tBS. How ironic that > someone who appeared to be the picture of health, and was such a > dynamic performer, should fall at an early age. She will be sorely > missed... Yes, but I don't think her death was associated with any bad health - she had to undergo some neck surgery, which I think was for some sort of muscle/bone problem, but not as a result of any sort of disease. She lapsed into a coma following surgical complications. I never managed to get to see Helen live or meet her in person, so I only know her from her music. My heart goes out to all of those that knew her personally and loved her. I put up a small tribute to Helen on my tBS page -- http://members.aol.com/tbspostop There's also a link there that will take you to www.helenwheels.com where you can post messages. > The new track, "TEotH" was kinda AC/DCish, with EB > on vocals. Not too bad, but not a show-stopper either. Would be a show-stopper for me just because it's new. > I would've liked to > have heard one or two more from HF, like Hammer Back for instance, but at > least "HM" was nice to hear live. For most shows over the past 6 months or so, HM is the only HF track being played. This is too bad, but BOC continues to approach their setlists more as a nostalgia act, figuring that most people would demand that they play all the "classics". Personally, I think they should mix it up more. And, while some may argue that See You in Black isn't the greatest of BOC tunes, I think it should continue to be in the setlist (hey, it's only been there for about 5 years...compare that to ETI...). > > > Godzilla (w/ bass/drum solos) > Who's playing the drums nowadays? Before I left for vacation, > someone posted that Bobby had lesft for another band? > The original post was that Bobby is involved in another project, not that he has left BOC. BOC is not touring much over the past few months (in part to work on new tunes for the next album due to come out this year). No one has ever stated definitively that Bobby has left BOC. I've seen nothing on the AOL boards about it, so I am assuming that Bobby is still BOC's drummer. > > Bobby was still on the throne, and playing very well. No news here on his > future plans, as I did not get to speak to him personally. -Mark Thanks Mark. So, what do you think of Modulus basses anyway? ;-) John (a Fender guy, mostly 'cuz it's all he can afford...) -- John A. Swartz - The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA - jswartz at mitre.org From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jan 21 08:15:42 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:15:42 EDT Subject: BOC: Col's 1/19/00 In-Reply-To: <66.ffb59c.25b8d2dc@aol.com> Message-ID: On 20 Jan 00, at 16:06, Mark Stears wrote: > Bobby was still on the throne, Hope everything came out allright! theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jan 21 08:26:42 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:26:42 EDT Subject: BOC: Various In-Reply-To: <388860AA.2AA4E9F@mitre.org> Message-ID: On 21 Jan 00, at 8:35, John A. Swartz wrote: > For most shows over the past 6 months or so, HM is the only HF track > being played. This is too bad, but BOC continues to approach their > setlists more as a nostalgia act, figuring that most people would > demand that they play all the "classics". Personally, I think they > should mix it up more. And, while some may argue that See You in > Black isn't the greatest of BOC tunes, I think it should continue to > be in the setlist (hey, it's only been there for about 5 > years...compare that to ETI...). > SYiB is a great tune, and they really rocked out on it live the 5 or 6 times I've seen them play it. Should definitely stay in the set list! > Thanks Mark. So, what do you think of Modulus basses anyway? ;-) > > John (a Fender guy, mostly 'cuz it's all he can afford...) Their guitars are pretty cool, though don't know if I can get past the carbon fiber neck. I know they're a high-quality [and high-ticket] item... theo From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jan 21 10:34:48 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:34:48 -0500 Subject: OFF: Asteroid#4 in Philly Message-ID: Hello All... FYI...I've seen both of these bands, and they're a worthwhile experience. Keith H. (FAA) Those in the philly area... Asteroid #4 Aspera Ad Astra At Lasalle University Backstage This Saturday (tommorow) Show starts at 8pm, Asteroid #4 will go on at 9pm. From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Fri Jan 21 10:48:44 2000 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:48:44 -0000 Subject: Help Message-ID: I'm using Outlook 2000 - any idea how to keep all of the digest mail in one lump so I don't get one mail with 20 or 30 attached messages ?? Cheers, Mark. From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Jan 21 05:55:40 2000 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:55:40 +0000 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: > But it still _is_ the 20th century. Call me a pedant, but if I ask > for 10 pints I want them to fill more than 9 glasses ;) If you can prove to me that Jesus was born exactly 1,999 years ago, I'll believe you. Besides, most people partied this year. I'd celebrate the new millennium next year, but who wants to party with a bunch of physicists and mathematicians? ;) -- Nick From Modulus6bass at AOL.COM Fri Jan 21 11:10:02 2000 From: Modulus6bass at AOL.COM (Mark Stears) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:10:02 EST Subject: BOC: Various Message-ID: Hey John and Theo... I have owned 2 Modulus 6 str. basses, and used them religiously for the last 7 years. I converted to composite necks in 1984 with a Music Man Cutlass bass....Have never really wanted a wooden necked inst. since!I Own a Warwick thumb 6 str., which I literally hate! It is for sale "cheap" if anyone is interested....... Just last week I purchased a new Status Graphite Empathy 6 bass. It is the finest inst. I've ever owned( With the possible exception of my old Alembic I sold years ago). As sacred as my fave Modulus is, it is finally going to get a break in the studio and onstage. It will always have a place in my heart, but ...... Another recent acquisition is a Music Man Stingray 5 str. which I've customized with a Moses Graphite neck. Another great bass! Don't get me wrong, I still love old Fenders and such, and have owned about 15 Fenders over the years, but for my money I'll save up a little longer and stick with composite neck insts. They are an acquired taste, but I prefer them to all of the eccentricities of wooden necks- Graphite doesn't warp, etc. and the sustain and High end response is incomparable . The lack of dead spots common to wooden necks is a plus. Also, my strings last upwards of A YEAR PER SET regardless of near constant use without a significant loss of High end. I use Trace Elliot and SWR amps, so a lack of highs would be very apparent. (and irritating! LOL) -Mark From Modulus6bass at AOL.COM Fri Jan 21 11:13:47 2000 From: Modulus6bass at AOL.COM (Mark Stears) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:13:47 EST Subject: BOC: Col's 1/19/00 Message-ID: Hmmm, "Bobby was still on the throne" "Hope everything came out alright" LOL.... I'm sure it did!.....LOL Sorry, poor choice of terms on my part. should have known I'd get called on it! -Mark From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jan 21 10:33:57 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:33:57 EDT Subject: BOC: Various In-Reply-To: <7e.2a0bfe.25b9deda@aol.com> Message-ID: On 21 Jan 00, at 11:10, Mark Stears wrote: > Hey John and Theo... > I have owned 2 Modulus 6 str. basses, and > used > them religiously for the last 7 years. Doesn't Oteill endorse Modulus? Say no more! ...... Another > recent acquisition is a Music Man Stingray 5 str. which I've > customized with a Moses Graphite neck. Another great bass! Although, for a while, Music Man offered a graphite neck option factory-installed. Can't remember who made the necks... > Don't get me wrong, I still love old Fenders and such, and have > owned > about 15 Fenders over the years, but for my money I'll save up a > little longer and stick with composite neck insts. But don't many of the newer Fender basses have carbon reinforcement in addition to a steel truss rod, a la Carvin? Gives you traditional looks with enhanced stability. I'm thinking of incorporating carbon reinforcement into a guitar I'm building now, as I use somewhat heavy strings [for a r'n'r player] and the truss rod on my Amer. Std. Strat is already maxed out... theo From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jan 21 11:34:26 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:34:26 EST Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: In a message dated 1/21/00 10:57:44 AM, nick at THECAMPUS.COM writes: << If you can prove to me that Jesus was born exactly 1,999 years ago, I'll believe you. Besides, most people partied this year. I'd celebrate the new millennium next year, but who wants to party with a bunch of physicists and mathematicians? ;) ==== not that i particularly wanna go here, but i thought that the 'jesus' entity turned out to have been born 2,003 years ago... "<>" From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jan 21 11:50:38 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:50:38 PST Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: >If you can prove to me that Jesus was born exactly 1,999 years ago, >I'll believe you. Can you prove he was born exactly 2,000 years ago? AFAIK current thought has it that accepted ideas of Jesus' birthdate are somewhere between 30 and 100 years out, making a bit of a mess of every calendar system used by Christians so far. >Besides, most people partied this year. I'd >celebrate the new millennium next year, but who wants to party with a >bunch of physicists and mathematicians? ;) Probably their mothers. And other physicists. Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jan 21 10:52:19 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:52:19 EDT Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! In-Reply-To: <84.7dc42b.25b9e492@aol.com> Message-ID: On 21 Jan 00, at 11:34, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 1/21/00 10:57:44 AM, nick at THECAMPUS.COM writes: > > << > If you can prove to me that Jesus was born exactly 1,999 years ago, > I'll believe you. Besides, most people partied this year. I'd > celebrate the new millennium next year, but who wants to party with a > bunch of physicists and mathematicians? ;) > ==== > not that i particularly wanna go here, but i thought that the 'jesus' > entity turned out to have been born 2,003 years ago... The academic world no longer uses BC or AD to denote periods in time, using, instead, CE [common era] and BCE, avoiding any silly ethnocentricity... theo From Modulus6bass at AOL.COM Fri Jan 21 12:01:10 2000 From: Modulus6bass at AOL.COM (Mark Stears) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:01:10 EST Subject: BOC: Various Message-ID: The Music Man Cutlass I referred to , and all of its' brethren incorporated a Modulus neck. Also, the incorporation of composites in Fender Instruments is a relatively recent addition, albeit a very logical one. I still prefer the fully composite neck, myself. Once you get used to the feel, (feels a lot like most any high gloss finish, to my hands) it's easy to overcome the not-wood stigma. One of my "Moduli" has a wooden fingerboard, and I have never liked it as much as its' fully-composite evil twin....but again, this is only my opinion, and should be taken as such. You could do worse than adding composite reinforcement to your project guitar. Best of luck, whatever you decide to do! From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Jan 21 12:34:49 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:34:49 -0700 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! In-Reply-To: <84.7dc42b.25b9e492@aol.com> Message-ID: >From my perspective, I celebrated the fact that it has been one millennium since the year 1000....I'm still trying to figure the absolute year, or exactly how long since the beginning of the universe (which I believe was on April 10, not January 1 anyway). Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of DASLUD at AOL.COM > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 9:34 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: 1st BOC show of the new century! > > > In a message dated 1/21/00 10:57:44 AM, nick at THECAMPUS.COM writes: > > << > If you can prove to me that Jesus was born exactly 1,999 years ago, > I'll believe you. Besides, most people partied this year. I'd > celebrate the new millennium next year, but who wants to party with a > bunch of physicists and mathematicians? ;) > ==== > not that i particularly wanna go here, but i thought that the > 'jesus' entity > turned out to have been born 2,003 years ago... > > "<>" > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jan 21 12:48:49 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:48:49 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: what new century?! Message-ID: Theo suggested... >On 21 Jan 00, at 11:34, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > >> In a message dated 1/21/00 10:57:44 AM, nick at THECAMPUS.COM writes: >> >> If you can prove to me that Jesus was born exactly 1,999 years ago, >> I'll believe you. Besides, most people partied this year. I'd >> celebrate the new millennium next year, but who wants to party with a >> bunch of physicists and mathematicians? ;) >> ==== >> not that i particularly wanna go here, but i thought that the 'jesus' >> entity turned out to have been born 2,003 years ago... > >The academic world no longer uses BC or AD to denote periods in >time, using, instead, CE [common era] and BCE, avoiding any silly >ethnocentricity... Never heard of this...sounds silly. :) Anyway, in 'my' academic world, we denote time in BP, years before present. Of course, with the 'present' held constant at A.D. 1950. Which I think is the year that radiocarbon dating was first established by the folks at U. Chicago. Libby et al. So this year would then be A.L. 50, I guess. Of course, this doesn't get away from the problem that a radiocarbon year and a 'real' calendar year aren't the same. Like 10,000 BP 14C is really 11,700 BP 14Ccal (calibrated to calendar years). And as I mentioned before, the issue of significance (or insignificance) in the millennium date is silly anyway, since it first and foremost depends upon your choice of 'fold' value (well, after the choice of zero date anyway, excuse me...year 1 date). There is a culture somewhere that decided to base their numbering system on (what we know as) 20 (I guess they went around barefoot), and so according to them (and assuming that they were Christian for some silly reason), this would be the year 500. Personally, I would've chosen (if it were up to me) a numbering system with a fold value of two less than what we currently use, and so this would be the year 3720. 60 more years until the next millennium (4000!), i.e., 48 more years to any thumb-counter. :) So, let's party with the bloody mathematicians!! They can give us more opportunities to party with all these different possibilities in counting! :) And if you want to continue this bit of fun, here are all the choices you can have (within the first 'ten' only, as we lack any single characters for higher numbers) Base '2' 11111010000 '3' 2202002 '4' 133100 '5' 31000 '6' 13132 '7' 5555 '8' 3720 '9' 2662 '10' 2000 So I guess to a computer, a 'millennium' really happens every 8 years...big deal. Keith H. (FAA) From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 21 12:15:51 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:15:51 -0000 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: >but who wants to party with a bunch of physicists and mathematicians? < Me! my wife is a mathematician, and she completely agrees with the 2001 argument. (and shes got the cutest......... T From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jan 21 12:13:38 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:13:38 EDT Subject: BOC: Various In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 21 Jan 00, at 12:01, Mark Stears wrote: > The Music Man Cutlass I referred to , and all of its' brethren > incorporated a Modulus neck. Also, the incorporation of composites in > Fender Instruments is a relatively recent addition, albeit a very > logical one. I still prefer the fully composite neck, myself. Once you > get used to the feel, (feels a lot like most any high gloss finish, to > my hands) it's easy to overcome the not-wood stigma. One of my > "Moduli" has a wooden fingerboard, and I have never liked it as much > as its' fully-composite evil twin.... What's your opinion of Steinbergers? [desperately trying to get on-topic, as Buck's been using them for a while now] BTW, the folks that reported on a recent BOC gig: was BD using the Steinberger or the new Harper? theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jan 21 12:15:10 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:15:10 EDT Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! In-Reply-To: <20000121165038.776.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On 21 Jan 00, at 8:50, Horse Whisperer wrote: > >Besides, most people partied this year. I'd > >celebrate the new millennium next year, but who wants to party with a > >bunch of physicists and mathematicians? ;) > > Probably their mothers. And other physicists. I don't know about that. My friend's a science geek, and he can drink me under the table anytime... theo From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Fri Jan 21 13:20:46 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:20:46 -0500 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! In-Reply-To: <000101bf6435$d0e0c920$36730918@chnd1.az.home.com> Message-ID: I believe the universe was started on APRIL FIRST by the great sun jester. Michael S. Habiby VP Sales and Marketing the CableShoppe, inc. One Prospect Ave. Albany, NY 12206 (800) 386-2300 (518) 489-0269 - fax cableshoppe at global2000.net or mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com ________________________ -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Kevin Sommers Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 12:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: 1st BOC show of the new century! >From my perspective, I celebrated the fact that it has been one millennium since the year 1000....I'm still trying to figure the absolute year, or exactly how long since the beginning of the universe (which I believe was on April 10, not January 1 anyway). Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of DASLUD at AOL.COM > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 9:34 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: 1st BOC show of the new century! > > > In a message dated 1/21/00 10:57:44 AM, nick at THECAMPUS.COM writes: > > << > If you can prove to me that Jesus was born exactly 1,999 years ago, > I'll believe you. Besides, most people partied this year. I'd > celebrate the new millennium next year, but who wants to party with a > bunch of physicists and mathematicians? ;) > ==== > not that i particularly wanna go here, but i thought that the > 'jesus' entity > turned out to have been born 2,003 years ago... > > "<>" > From Modulus6bass at AOL.COM Fri Jan 21 13:26:42 2000 From: Modulus6bass at AOL.COM (Mark Stears) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:26:42 EST Subject: BOC: Various Message-ID: Buck was using a Steinberger at the Cols. gig, unless he's using something which resembles one which has been customized (Sorry, I'm not really an afficianado of guitars, only basses). It was white, and had semispherical routs in the body. It was the first time I've seen them since '84, so I'm not really current on his guitar lineup or preferences. Personally, I never liked the 4 string Steinberger basses, their necks being so small. To say it felt like a broomstick to me is being generous. Never played a 5 str. The body shape is more or less of a non sequitur for me, so that was not the reason for my general disliking. -Mark From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jan 21 13:29:16 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:29:16 -0500 Subject: BOC: Various Message-ID: Theo asked... >BTW, the folks that reported on a recent BOC gig: was BD using the >Steinberger or the new Harper? I don't know much about guitars, but I can tell you it was white, rather swiss-cheese like (i.e., lots of faux holes, really circular indentations), and lacked a 'headstock' (or whatever it's called), i.e., it must be tuned from the other end or something. I guess that suggests Steinberger, because I remember Sting's bass being configured like that as well, and that was a Steinberger IIRC. Sorry for my ignorance...Keith H. (FAA) From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jan 21 12:44:32 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:44:32 EDT Subject: BOC: Various In-Reply-To: <200001211824.NAA24063@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On 21 Jan 00, at 13:29, K Henderson wrote: > I don't know much about guitars, but I can tell you it was white, > rather swiss-cheese like (i.e., lots of faux holes, really circular > indentations), Yep, that's BD's 'cheesehead' Steinberger...Guess the Harper's too pretty to take out on the road? Guess the swiss-cheese treatment may have been done to make it lighter, though I'd think the Steinberger is already pretty light. BD has a couple of Steinberger's that were modified by ed Roman, east coast guitar dealer and former Steinberger employe. BTW, ed's site is full of guitar info. I think it's simply: edromanguitars.com. definitely worth a look... theo From AgentOF at AOL.COM Fri Jan 21 13:46:56 2000 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:46:56 EST Subject: BOC: Various Message-ID: In a message dated 1/21/2000 12:30:22 PM Central Standard Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: << I don't know much about guitars, but I can tell you it was white, rather swiss-cheese like (i.e., lots of faux holes, really circular indentations), and lacked a 'headstock' (or whatever it's called), i.e. >> This is affectionately referred to as Buck's "CheeseBerger" :-) chuck From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Jan 21 13:26:47 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:26:47 -0500 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: >On 21 Jan 00, at 8:50, Horse Whisperer wrote: > > >> >Besides, most people partied this year. I'd >> >celebrate the new millennium next year, but who wants to party with a >> >bunch of physicists and mathematicians? ;) >> >> Probably their mothers. And other physicists. >I don't know about that. My friend's a science geek, and he can >drink me under the table anytime... All together now: Emmanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable... Heidegger, Heidegger (sp?) was a boozy bugger who could think you under the table.... Actually, I would imagine anyone who was able to make money off the y2k thing and is looking for other ways to make money will try to latch onto this in hopes of repeating the whole process... (out of work cobol programmers not withstanding)... ... continuing David Hume could out-consume... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Jan 21 13:26:51 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:26:51 -0500 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: >I believe the universe was started on APRIL FIRST by the great sun jester. The fireclown? FWIW, I stuck "The Great Sun Jester" into a Darxtar Fireclown tape... makes a nice match. (did same thing w/ Black Blade and Chronicle...) "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jan 21 15:26:01 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:26:01 -0500 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! In-Reply-To: <20000121165038.776.qmail@hotmail.com>; from beautiful_foot@HOTMAIL.COM on Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 08:50:38AM -0800 Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 08:50:38AM -0800, Horse Whisperer wrote: > >If you can prove to me that Jesus was born exactly 1,999 years ago, > >I'll believe you. > > Can you prove he was born exactly 2,000 years ago? AFAIK current thought > has it that accepted ideas of Jesus' birthdate are somewhere between 30 and > 100 years out, making a bit of a mess of every calendar system used by > Christians so far. Well, Dionysius Exiguus missed by a few years, but not quite that many. If you believe the story about Herod wanting to off Jesus, he had to be born before Herod died in 4 BC. (That's Herod the not-so-Great, by the way; his son, Herod Antipas, is the one the Bible credits with finishing the job.) But if you believe the story about the census and the trip to Bethlehem and the manger and all, it has to be about 6-7 AD, when the census in question took place. 1 AD is right out. On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:15:51 -0000, Tim Stephenson wrote: > > >Besides, most people partied this year. I'd > > >celebrate the new millennium next year, but who wants to party with a > > >bunch of physicists and mathematicians? ;) > > > > Probably their mothers. And other physicists. > > Me! my wife is a mathematician, and she completely agrees with the 2001 > argument. Of course. That is, technically, when the new millenium will begin. But 2000 years since what wasn't the birth date of a prophet I don't worship anyway? Who cares! What mattered to me was what mattered to most people, I guess. It was when the odometer rolled over a couple of weeks ago, however meaningless an event that was in historical or mathematical terms. It was the simple fact of never again being able to write "19xx", and the thought of how *much* water had passed under the bridge since the last time that left digit changed. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jan 21 15:53:34 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:53:34 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: what new century?! In-Reply-To: <200001211748.MAA03873@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 12:48:49PM -0500 Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 12:48:49PM -0500, K Henderson wrote: > Theo suggested... > >The academic world no longer uses BC or AD to denote periods in > >time, using, instead, CE [common era] and BCE, avoiding any silly > >ethnocentricity... > > Never heard of this...sounds silly. :) It's not universal by any means. Some people use BC/AD, some use BCE/CE. Biblical Archaeology Review, which I sometimes pick up, is carefully agnostic; they print each article using the scheme its author prefers. But the flamewar erupts periodically in their letters pages... (BAR is definitely an archaeology magazine, by the way, not a religion magazine. Their sister publication, Bible Review, is about religion -- which is why I almost never read it.) > Anyway, in 'my' academic world, we denote time in BP, years before present. > Of course, with the 'present' held constant at A.D. 1950. Which I think is > the year that radiocarbon dating was first established by the folks at U. > Chicago. Libby et al. So this year would then be A.L. 50, I guess. Well, only if AL dating has a Year Zero :-) > Of > course, this doesn't get away from the problem that a radiocarbon year and a > 'real' calendar year aren't the same. Like 10,000 BP 14C is really 11,700 > BP 14Ccal (calibrated to calendar years). Now this is just plain f***ed. What does an RC "year" correspond to, then? > And if you want to continue this bit of fun, here are all the choices you > can have (within the first 'ten' only, as we lack any single characters for > higher numbers) > Base > '2' 11111010000 > '3' 2202002 > '4' 133100 > '5' 31000 > '6' 13132 > '7' 5555 > '8' 3720 > '9' 2662 > '10' 2000 Maybe you geology types lack them :-) We computer folks can go at least a few higher: '11' 1559 '12' 11A8 '13' BAB '14' A2C '15' 8D5 FWIW, which isn't much... > So I guess to a computer, a 'millennium' really happens every 8 years...big > deal. :-) ObPretendingToBeOnTopic: In base 7237, one of my fave HW instrumentals would be "Spiral Galaxy 4". -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM Fri Jan 21 16:35:34 2000 From: rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM (Richard Manny) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:35:34 -0500 Subject: BOC: Various Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Mark Stears To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, January 21, 2000 1:37 PM Subject: Re: BOC: Various > Buck was using a Steinberger at the Cols. gig, unless he's using something >which resembles one which has been customized (Sorry, I'm not really an >afficianado of guitars, only basses). It was white, and had semispherical >routs in the body. It was the first time I've seen them since '84, so I'm not >really current on his guitar lineup or preferences. I know that Buck got some of his Steinbergers through Ed Roman, a guy who specializes in customized guitars. Roman calls his modified Steinbergers, Edbergers. His URL follows: http://www.edromanguitars.com/site_idx.htm . Guy's, check out his section, "Sexy Guitars". It'll take a while to load, but I keep thinking that Roman should do a slot on "The Man's Show". ;-) Richard From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 21 16:52:12 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:52:12 +0000 Subject: HW: Collector's Series In-Reply-To: <200001210320.WAA14276@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: At 03:20 21/01/00 , K Henderson wrote: In case some people don't know, several of the tracks from the Wierd Tapes have been included on other compilations. I'm not complaining! If it helps you plan your purchases, here are the tracks that I've seen elsewhere. (The codex will have the complete info, of course). >Coll. Ser. 4 - Weird 101 / Sonic Assassins live 23.12.77 Barnstaple + DBrock >solo tracks recorded at home in Devon, 1978-79 Over The Top (SA), Nuclear Toy (DB). Also Magnu and Angels of Life? >Coll. Ser. 5 - Weird 102 / Stonehenge Free Festival 23.6.77, Chicago - >Riverside Theatre 12.3.78, plus 3 Hawklords tracks recorded at Rockfield >(2-3/79) Valium 10, Douglas in the Jungle. SotA? (see below). >Coll. Ser. 6 - Weird 103 / more Stonehenge 23.6.77, plus Watchfield 8/75 and >Rockfield studios, 9/77 Cake Out, Circles, Elements? >Coll. Ser. 8 - Weird 105 / Hammersmith Odeon 5.10.76 and 1977, plus studio >tracks from 12/77 I don't think I've seen these elsewhere, and it's my favourite Wierd Tape. >Coll. Ser. 9 - Weird 106 / One track (US studio 12/73), three tracks at >Chalk Farm Roadhouse, London 13.2.72 (Greasy Truckers?), and the rest >recorded at Maida Vale BBC studios on 18.8.70 and Playhouse Theatre, BBC >Studios 19.4.71. Make What You Can, the Greasy Truckers tracks, possibly also the 18.8.70 tracks (Hurry On Sundown, Come Home, We Do It). > >Glastonbury '90 - Travellers Field, Glastonbury 5 AM. Dodgy recording! :) > >Nottingham '90 remix (2CD) - The 'Live Legends' gig at Nottingham 24.1.90 on >one disc, Now this is a really good idea. Thumbs up for this choice! >Also, we were just talking about the Chicago 1978 show, in reference to the >SotA on F&R II. So what's on the Weird 102 tape from this gig? I didn't know anything on this tape was from Chicago. My guess is that the SotA is the same one, and presumably the Sonic Attack that follows it. >Final question...is the Atomhenge 1976 likely to be the same Atomhenge >recording that was popping up on CD-R last year from somewhere in >Scandinavia? (Or at least Henrik had copies available for a brief spell.) What was the sound quality of that like? My guess is that tapes from that long ago would be fairly poor, unless EMI have found another tape in their vaults or something. Dave. Dave Berry, www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~daveb From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 21 19:15:38 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:15:38 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: what new century?! Message-ID: > Eric Siegerman wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 12:48:49PM -0500, K Henderson wrote: > > Anyway, in 'my' academic world, we denote time in BP, years before > > present. Of course, with the 'present' held constant at A.D. 1950. > > Which I think is the year that radiocarbon dating was first > > established by the folks at U. And I think that was because it was the year that atomic testing started in earnest and the background radiocarbon level stopped being just minimal and solar produced! > > Of course, this doesn't get away from the problem that a radiocarbon > > year and a'real' calendar year aren't the same. Like 10,000 BP 14C > > is really 11,700 BP 14Ccal (calibrated to calendar years). > > Now this is just plain f***ed. What does an RC "year" correspond > to, then? It's usually a radiocarbon *date* you are looking for which will correspond to a spread of calendar years and is then calibrated more exactly by matching it to the known fluctuations in background radiation around the years in question. These fluctuations are known because objects with absolute calendar dates (such as tree rings) have also been radiocarbon counted so the background radiation for that date has been established. jill (I hope I've got the attributions right - apologies if I've misnamed someone) -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 21 18:28:26 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:28:26 +0000 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: "Michael S. Habiby" wrote: > > I believe the universe was started on APRIL FIRST by the great sun jester. > > ________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > Behalf Of Kevin Sommers > > since the year 1000....I'm still trying to figure the absolute year, or > exactly how long since the beginning of the universe (which I believe was on > April 10, not January 1 anyway). The world was created in the year 4004 BC at 4am in the morning. Leastways that was the conclusion of one very eminent Victorian scholar (though I admit I can't recall his name!) The current Christian calendar lost 4 years due to a medieval calendar reorganisation (trying to sort out Easter and get the leap years right) and then another 8 months due to a later calendar reorganisation in the 18th century. The various celestial events recorded in connection with the birth of Christ (if they are assumed to be a combination of planetary conjuctions and/or a comet) seem most likely to have occurred around 6BC or 8BC using current calendar reckonings so if you calculate that in with all the previous messing about with dates then 2000 years since the birth of Christ actually happened quite a while ago. We missed it! jill -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 21 19:21:14 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:21:14 +0000 Subject: OFF: Ozrics new dates Message-ID: I've heard that the Ozric Tentacles have rescheduled dates for their recently postponed tour. One date will be in Edinburgh in February (14th I think) but it's at the Venue which I hate. Can anyone point me to a webside where I could find other dates in this tour? If there's one in Glasgow the same weekend that would probably be better. Thanks jill -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From StevenTice at AOL.COM Fri Jan 21 23:33:41 2000 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:33:41 EST Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: In a message dated 1/21/00 3:36:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, erics at TELEPRES.COM writes: << But 2000 years since what wasn't the birth date of a prophet I don't worship anyway? Who cares! What mattered to me was what mattered to most people, I guess. It was when the odometer rolled over a couple of weeks ago, however meaningless an event that was in historical or mathematical terms. It was the simple fact of never again being able to write "19xx", and the thought of how *much* water had passed under the bridge since the last time that left digit changed. >> Which would be, gee, exactly one thousand years! Who SAYS 2000 wasn't the millennium, doggone it? :-) SET From dahl at AROS.NET Sat Jan 22 01:45:04 2000 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:45:04 -0700 Subject: BOC: Bad Channels Message-ID: Hey Guys, I just saw this bit of info and thought I'd share: >>>-A reissue of the "Bad Channels" movie soundtrack, featuring music by Blue Oyster Cult, is due soon. There will be bonus tracks and the whole CD will now consist of 30 tracks.<<< I wonder if the "bonus tracks" include any BOC stuff? Anybody else know about this? Brad Dahl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Sat Jan 22 05:03:51 2000 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 21:03:51 +1100 Subject: HW: Oz Dates Message-ID: Hi Folks Well, it didn't pan out for Melbourne, but here are the final dates I just received from the people organising the Aussie leg of the NZ tour: Sat Feb 19 Happy Valley Festival, Sydney Tue Feb 22 Great Northern, Byron Bay Thu Feb 24 Metro, Sydney I think an interstate trip is in order ..... S. -- The email address ---> sonique at sonique.net The current project ---> http://sonique.net/house The bank balance ---> In the red :) From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Jan 22 10:31:22 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:31:22 -0000 Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! Message-ID: Godspeed You Black Emperor! are back in the UK in April, supported by the superb Icelanders Sigur R?s, and Fly Pan Am. Festival Hall, London April 3rd Planet K, Manchester April 5th New Trinity Centre, Bristol April 6th This is surely compulsory!! -- Andy ObCD: M?ei?ur J?n?usd?ttir - _L?gin vi? Vinnuna_ ObVinyl: Calexico - _Descamino_ ObTape: Sphynx - _Unreleased Studio Stuff 78_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Jan 22 14:30:01 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:30:01 -0000 Subject: OFF: Ozrics new dates Message-ID: There's a Scottish gig guide at; http://www.gigguide.co.uk/ SAH On 22 Jan 00, at 0:21, Jill wrote: > I've heard that the Ozric Tentacles have rescheduled dates for their > recently postponed tour. One date will be in Edinburgh in February > (14th I think) but it's at the Venue which I hate. Can anyone point me to > a webside where I could find other dates in this tour? If there's one in > Glasgow the same weekend that would probably be better. > > Thanks > jill > > -- > ====================================================================== > Jill Strobridge or > J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk > ====================================================================== > From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Jan 22 14:30:00 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:30:00 -0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Motorhead Message-ID: There's an interview with Lemmy in this months Record Collector (UK) magazine, with some nice b&w pics. He also talks about his forthcoming rock'n'roll covers album. .."Being fired from HW is rather like being pushed off the Empire State building for liking height.." SAH From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Jan 22 16:22:26 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:22:26 -0500 Subject: OFF: what new century?! Message-ID: Eric wondered... >> Of >> course, this doesn't get away from the problem that a radiocarbon year and a >> 'real' calendar year aren't the same. Like 10,000 BP 14C is really 11,700 >> BP 14Ccal (calibrated to calendar years). > >Now this is just plain f***ed. What does an RC "year" correspond >to, then? Well, a year is a year. But radiometric dating techniques are based on various methodologies. Some are based on the loss of parents, others on the growth of daughters, and even some on the remains or traces of decay events (like fission tracks and thermoluminescence). And while the radiocarbon method is based on the loss of parents (ie., 14C), the problem is that the parents are continually regenerated in the atmosphere, producing a 'secular equilibrium' of sorts. But when an organism dies, no more carbon is exchanged (usually, or at least hopefully) and so the 'clock' starts at that point based on the 14C content of the atmosphere at that time. But the calculations of age assume that the production rate of 14C remains constant over time, which it doesn't. The strength of the magnetic field of the Earth controls the amount of high energy cosmic radiation that invades and produces 14C within the atmosphere. And that isn't constant of course (and in fact is known to reverse, N pole to S pole, over longer timescales). Also, there is the problem of the distribution of 14C on the planet once it forms. Oceanic overturning (surface waters sinking to the deep ocean) is not constant, and is believed to be responsible for major and rapid climate changes in the recent history of the Earth, such as during the 'ice age.' So the effective removal of 14C from the active hydrologic cycle during periods of rapid overturning show up in the calibration against real-time dating (e.g., trees, ice cores). The "Younger-Dryas Plateau" is the best manifestation of this. And then of course, where there is strong upwelling of deep ocean water (usually 1000 years 'old' or more) along coastlines, radiocarbon amounts (in shallow marine seashells, for instance) will be less than they 'should' be, because of decay during the period that the deep ocean water was not in contact with the atmosphere. (A global average of the relative age of marine organisms on the radiocarbon time scale vs. terrestrial organisms is 420 years, i.e., marine organisms appear 420 years older because of the influence of 'dead' carbon...in strong upwelling areas, this can be well over 1,000 years.) Oh, and then there was the strange event (that we're hoping to shed some light on with these ice cores) that happened c. 37,000 years ago, where there was a giant spike in the production rate of 14C and the other cosmogenic radionuclides, like 10Be and 36Cl. Some think it was a nearby supernova, but I think that might not be a valid answer, since there's at least one place that shows a dramatic, though short-lived, climate shift that would suggest something more internal (to our solar system at least). Others think maybe it was an aborted magnetic pole reversal, a very intriguing idea. Also, solar influences like the Maunder and Daulton minima (few to no sunspots) of the last 500 years also influence the production rate/calibration. And as Jill suggested, humans have completely screwed up radiocarbon dating for distant future generations, by 1) burning 14C-dead fossil fuels (the Suess effect as it's called) and 2) nuclear testing, which has generated far more 14C than anything else in nature. So radiocarbon dating over the last few hundred years is pretty worthless. Instead, 210Pb is often used for short timescales I think. I guess that's more than you really cared to know. :) >ObPretendingToBeOnTopic: In base 7237, one of my fave HW instrumentals would >be "Spiral Galaxy 4". How old does that make Simon House on 28.9.00? Keith H. (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Jan 22 16:36:11 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:36:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations #9 Message-ID: Hi Folks...here's the quarterly plug. Keith H. (FAA) Aural Innovations #9 (January 2000) is ready! It is 56 pages and is available in printed format and is also available for FREE download in Adobe Acrobat format from our web site (see URL below). Aural Innovations features band profiles, interviews, and reviews with a focus on spacerock, but also including psych, ambient, and various electronics. Issue #9 features.... DarXtar Pt. 1 (Juba) Interview Nebula Trip Review/Interview Pseudo Buddha Review/Interview Paul Chousmer Profile/Interview Pipedream Review/Interview Ohm Review/Interview Joseph Benzola (Amanita Music) Review/Interview The Hawthorne Effect Profile/Interview Cabaret Voltaire Interview Pinhas/Heldon/Urban Sax: Directions In French Progressive Rock (Part III: 1980-1999) Mother Mallard Review Stone Premonitions Label Profile Garden Of Delights Label Profile Part II The Outbound Muse's Dispatch (Roger Neville-Neil) Y 2 Can Play (Short Story) Plus LOTS of CD Reviews!!! ANNOUNCEMENT: Subscriptions are no longer available. Due to the higher number of hits on our web page relative to the number of people reading the printed version of Aural Innovations, I have decided to discontinue the printed version and open Aural-Innovations.com as a full blown e-zine. When the new web site comes online in a month or so it will debut with ALL reviews, articles, and interviews from our 9 printed issues in html format. Email me if you would like to be notified when Aural-Innovations.com opens. WHILE YOU'RE AT OUR WEB SITE DON'T FORGET TO CHECK OUT THE AURAL INNOVATIONS CD STORE. We've got releases by Spacehead, Krel, Heru Avenger, The Spleen of Columbus compilation, Alien Planetscapes, Spaceship Eyes, King Black Acid, Quarkspace, Escape Velocity, and the Turn Century Turn space/psych compilation. Printed copies of Aural Innovations are still available for $3 (U.S./Canada) and $4 (Everywhere Else). Send orders to: Jerry Kranitz 1364 W. 7th Ave #B Columbus, Ohio 43212 U.S.A. Back issues #3, #6, #7, and #8 are still available for $3 (U.S./Canada) and $4 (everywhere else) Check out Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock Exploration http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/space/space.html http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/music/music.html (Prog page) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Sat Jan 22 17:01:11 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:01:11 -0500 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! In-Reply-To: <3888EB9A.4B3A6811@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:28:26PM +0000 Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:28:26PM +0000, Jill wrote: > The world was created in the year 4004 BC at 4am in the morning. > Leastways that was the conclusion of one very eminent Victorian scholar > (though I admit I can't recall his name!) Archbishop James Ussher (1581-1656). I thought he was Victorian too, until I just now looked him up. Go figure. Turns out Ussher influenced some of Newton's later and very dubious work -- creating a "historical" timeline based on the voyage of Jason and the Argonauts, along with the Bible of course. > The current Christian calendar lost 4 years due to a medieval calendar > reorganisation (trying to sort out Easter and get the leap years right) They seem to have spent an inordinate amount of energy on Easter calculations. Constantly rejiggering algorithms, often in an attempt to keep Easter from coinciding with Passover -- which by rights it should of course. > and then another 8 months due to a later calendar reorganisation in the > 18th century. Kinda. 11 days were "lost", ie. written out of the calendar, to correct for the error accumulated since Julius Caesar's time: September 1752 S M Tu W Th F S 1 2 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 In Britain anyway. Pope Gregory XIII had instituted his calendrical reforms back in 1582, but it took a while for non-Catholic countries to come around. Some places stayed on Julian time even longer -- Russia's "October Revolution" took place in November 1917... When Britain went Gregorian, they also changed New Years from 25 March to 1 January, as stipulated by Pope Gregory. Perhaps the 8 months are somehow (though not straightforwardly :-) related to this shift. > The various celestial events recorded in connection with > the birth of Christ (if they are assumed to be a combination of > planetary conjuctions and/or a comet) seem most likely to have occurred > around 6BC or 8BC using current calendar reckonings Yup. Forgot about those. That'd help explain why the earlier date is favoured (over 6-7 AD, as the census story would require). -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Jan 22 17:22:21 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:22:21 -0500 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: Eric S. said... >When Britain went Gregorian, they also changed New Years from 25 >March to 1 January, as stipulated by Pope Gregory. Perhaps the 8 >months are somehow (though not straightforwardly :-) related to >this shift. Why was New Years chosen as January 1 anyway? I've never been curious enough to search into this, but I've always figured it must've been based on the date of perihelion. It's currently Jan. 4, but because it cycles through the calendar year every 23,000 years or so, it would only take about 200 years for it to drift 3 days (though I can remember at the moment which way it drifts, forward or backward). Now though, that I realize the Catholic Church was involved, I see it must be something much more meaningful. :) And totally unrelated to the perihelion. Just curious...Keith H. (FAA) ObCD: Unlimbo - Prahna Fish (gotta mention something about music) From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Jan 22 17:44:44 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:44:44 -0500 Subject: OFF: what new century?! In-Reply-To: <200001222122.QAA26252@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, K Henderson wrote: [[Engrossing posting about radiometric dating techniques deleted.]] This is why I love this list so much! Thanks for the enlightening information, Keith. Cheers, Paul. NP: Gov't Mule, 6/20/99 e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Jan 22 18:23:33 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:23:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: what new century?! Message-ID: Paul said kindly... >[[Engrossing posting about radiometric dating techniques deleted.]] > >This is why I love this list so much! Thanks for the enlightening >information, Keith. OK, cool...I'm always afraid to contribute so much to such off-topic threads... But now that you've led me on... If you are interested at all in what 'we' (the research group I'm in) really do, you can watch NBC tomorrow (sorry folks in Europe, etc.) at 5 PM, about the failed climbing expedition to Shishapangma (or Xixabangma if you prefer) on the Nepal-Tibet border. Two climbers died in an avalanche there last year. It's poignant for me because that's the mountain upon which I lived for two months back in 1997 (and why I missed Strange Daze '97 in NY). And my tent mate became sick there and eventually died in a Cleveland hospital. (BTW, he had gone with me to see Hawkwind at the Agora '95 show, as well as Gong at the Odeon.) Anyway, these North Face-sponsored climbers were coming up a different way than we went up (i.e., the easy way...I don't really know how to climb!). But once we got up to 23,000 feet, we were able to look down into the valley to the south and so I know what these guys were faced with, and I had the vertigo to prove it. Amazing view...nothing like it anywhere else in the world I imagine. Oh, and if anyone sees anything about a balloon taking off from the summit of Kilimanjaro (or perhaps crashing somewhere nearby) in mid-February, that's 'us' too. (Perhaps it's a good thing I'm not there.) :) ObMontyPython-reference: (Note: The plan is *not* to build a bridge between the two peaks.) :) (Funny thing...there *is* a second, though smaller, peak.) Keith H. (FAA and Byrd Polar Research Center-Ice Core Paleoclimatology Group) From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jan 22 20:29:05 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 01:29:05 -0000 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations #9 Message-ID: Hi Keith When I try to download this, I get "Acrobat Read error". I have the latest version of acrobat loaded. Any ideas? T np - Live at Palace Springs (Hey Keith, from your demo tapes you're responsible for me getting two Ashra albums and a Stereolab.) From hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM Sun Jan 23 00:48:15 2000 From: hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM (Randy) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 23:48:15 -0600 Subject: off: CD's for trade In-Reply-To: <000201bf654b$66bedc00$ca4e883e@timsteph> Message-ID: I have a used copy of Can / Future Days Pressurehesd / Infadrone for trade if any one wants then let me know. Randy... From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Jan 23 05:43:43 2000 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:43:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Uncle Nik in Sweden Message-ID: I am proud to announce the following concert event in Sweden: NIK TURNER & PSEUDO SUN Rockland, Sala, Sweden Saturday, March 11th 2000 Chances are that there are more gigs to follow, so watch this space! Pseudo Sun is (to my ears at least) Sweden?s best band. Forget Darxtar. The band consists of: Juba Nurmenniemi - bass, synths & vocals Mats Singh - guitar & vocals Eric Lindesv?rd - drums From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Jan 23 09:29:55 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:29:55 +0100 Subject: HW:Brixton gig ,24 march Message-ID: Hello all, Just heard from a rather very good source the Brixton gig is off !!! If Hawkwind is going to NZ,when are they going to rehearse for the Brixton gig?? Heard Lemmy is asking to much money.Absolutely not sure about that, so don't shoot me. Not so best wishes from filip hawknut P.S.:if it still goes through,I give all of you a glass of champagne. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Simon "Eddie" Baker Stretchy Records Ltd PO Box 5520 Bishops Stortford Herts CM23 3WH Tel/Fax +44 (0)1279 865070 13/2 - Scotland - TBA 14/2 - York - Fibbers 15/2 - Wrexham - Central Station 16/2 - Ashton-u-Lyme - Wytchwood 17/2 - Hull - Wellington Club 18/2 - Derby - Flowerpot 19/2 - Devizes 12/2 - Aberdeen - Lemon Tree - Corn Exchange 20/2 - OFF 21/2 - Chelmsford - Army and Navy 22/2 - Dudley - JB's 23/2 - Sheffield - Boardwalk 24/2 - Coventry - Planet 25/2 - Norwich - Fat Pauly's 26/2 - TBA 27/2 - Brighton - Concorde and... Additional date Aberdeen Lemon Tree 12th Feb Simon "Eddie" Baker Stretchy Records Ltd PO Box 5520 Bishops Stortford Herts CM23 3WH Tel/Fax +44 (0)1279 865070 From johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jan 23 13:30:11 2000 From: johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM (Johnny Firich) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:30:11 GMT Subject: Shooting shark Message-ID: Does anyone out there know what the phrase "shooting shark" mean? When I first heard the song, I thought he sings "shooting star" - which does make sense - "... lighting up the sky". thnx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Jan 23 13:17:02 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 13:17:02 -0500 Subject: HW: Samples of Shadow Screams Message-ID: Long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away, Scott Heller played the unmixed demos that I had recorded with Tania Ruiz (ex-BOC-L), and Larry Boyd, and my sister Chris. Chris had done most of the synths and samples on the recordings (barring a guest appearance by ex-BOC-L David Kuznick) and concerning them the late and sincerely lamented Rudy Rudich wrote on 15 May 1996: >> BTW - Your sister did a GREAT job adding synths. That band could open for >> HW and hold its own, no problem. Maybe your sister could even replace >> Harvey. Does she dance in various stages of undress or breathe fire? Inquiring about this with my sister, I received the response which I forwarded to the list the next day. > Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 17:47:26 -0400 (EDT) > From: Chris Anderson > > i breathe fire. undress is extra. Recalling this, my sister has at last forwarded proof of her firebreathing prowess, as photographed for the New York Times and on view at this URL: > http://www.obscure.org/~knee/Orange1.jpg No further word on the undress ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Jan 23 14:23:16 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:23:16 -0500 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! In-Reply-To: <200001211556.KAA10704@cobalt.netphd.net> Message-ID: At 10.55 +0000 00-01-21, Nick English wrote: >> But it still _is_ the 20th century. Call me a pedant, but if I ask >> for 10 pints I want them to fill more than 9 glasses ;) > > >If you can prove to me that Jesus was born exactly 1,999 years ago, >I'll believe you. It hardly matters when Jesus was born or even if Jesus was born. A thousand years is a thousand years whenever you start it. If we're going to pick an arbitrary starting point for a thousand year period, then we can at least have the brains to remember when it began! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sun Jan 23 14:39:12 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:39:12 -0000 Subject: OFF: On line, free, charitable donations Message-ID: I know that some of you are aware og the work being done by The Hunger Site, where you can make a 'free' daily donation of food, by clicking on a button. There are a now a number of other sites operating in the same manner. The "Race for the Rain Forest" is a fascinating, free way to generate donations to protect rain forest. Simply visit the site and you will automatically trigger a donation, paid for by sponsor organizations. For every unique visitor who clicks on the RIBBIT button before March 31, 2000, sponsors will donate $1 to the American Red Cross, up to the first million unique clicks! Donate To Cancer Research For Free - Let's Put An End To Cancer. The Hunger Site - donate food, paid for by the site's sponsors, to hungry people around the world! Links to all these sites are available on my site at www.zeitgeist- scot.com Please help if you can Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground E-zine, freezine and online Record Store http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 23 14:57:13 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:57:13 +0000 Subject: HW:"Time Brothers" cover CD's Message-ID: Info from Brian Tawn's Newsletter "...sold via mail order through Gavin Wilson, 3 Quarry Street, Larkhall, Lanarkshire ML9 2NJ" jill =============================================================== Filip Vanhuyse wrote: > > Hello all, > > Had just in 2 very interesting CD's from Gavin Wilson. > He had special permission from Dave Brock to do this. > The first one is this: > > THE TIME BROTHERS:STAR TRAVELOGUE > -Our Wintering Is Done > -Psychedelic Warlords > -Beyond Angel > -Paradox > -The First Of All > -Assault & Battery > -Golden Void > -Magnu > -Sonic Attack > -Master Of The Universe > -Paranoia > -The Trail Of Abandoned Futures > -Brainstorm > -Welcome To The Future > > There's some narration on it from the Hawkwind Logbook.really nice > > THE TIME BROTHERS > -Damage Of Life > -Heads > -Time We Left > > They are about ?15 both,includede p+p for europe. > Stupid me can't find his adress now,but it's GAVIN WILSON from > Scotland > Anyone knows his adress,otherwise will have a good look. > You must hurry as it's very limited !!! > He once made a book about Hawkwind. > > Again Best Wishes > filip hawknut > -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 23 13:08:14 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:08:14 -0000 Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! Message-ID: Any Glasgow gigs planned? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 22 January 2000 15:33 Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! Godspeed You Black Emperor! are back in the UK in April, supported by the superb Icelanders Sigur R?s, and Fly Pan Am. Festival Hall, London April 3rd Planet K, Manchester April 5th New Trinity Centre, Bristol April 6th This is surely compulsory!! -- Andy ObCD: M?ei?ur J?n?usd?ttir - _L?gin vi? Vinnuna_ ObVinyl: Calexico - _Descamino_ ObTape: Sphynx - _Unreleased Studio Stuff 78_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Sun Jan 23 16:48:29 2000 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:48:29 -0500 Subject: HW: Uncle Nik in Sweden In-Reply-To: <12CKUh-18jPyUC@fwd01.sul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Does Pseudo Sun have a website? Any CDs or mp3s out yet? At 11:43 AM 1/23/00 +0100, you wrote: >I am proud to announce the following concert event in Sweden: > >NIK TURNER & PSEUDO SUN >Rockland, Sala, Sweden >Saturday, March 11th 2000 > >Chances are that there are more gigs to follow, so watch this space! > >Pseudo Sun is (to my ears at least) Sweden?s best band. Forget Darxtar. The >band >consists of: >Juba Nurmenniemi - bass, synths & vocals >Mats Singh - guitar & vocals >Eric Lindesv?rd - drums From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 23 17:24:29 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:24:29 -0000 Subject: HW:"Time Brothers" cover CD's Message-ID: this is interesting. whats "the time brothers" all about then? And what is the sound quality of these? T -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 23 17:23:01 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:23:01 -0000 Subject: OFF: On line, free, charitable donations Message-ID: gotta support this. In my attempt to join the spamming industry, I've cross posted the mail to the PO90 group. (PT-Trans is STILL off line!) T np - In your area. (I dont remember hearing much comment on this when it came out, what are the views?) From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jan 24 04:35:09 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:35:09 +0000 Subject: HW: Appearance in London this weekend In-Reply-To: <001801bf65b1$63b3ae80$75a208d4@d8o7x0> Message-ID: OK gang, just to remind you, the band are scheduled to appear in London at the T.U.C. Centre (by Tottenham Court Road tube) from 12 noon "signing their works and chatting to the band all afternoon" This SUNDAY 30th January, at the T.U.C. Centre Comics, Cards and related Mart. Admission Free. I have to go the Toy Trade Fair at Olympia this Sunday, and probably can't make the signing, but it won't be from lack of trying. Anyone else going? Is Dave going to be there? cheers -- Jon From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jan 24 04:37:58 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 01:37:58 PST Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! Message-ID: >Godspeed You Black Emperor! are back in the UK >This is surely compulsory!! Most definitely. For anyone who may be in Northern Ireland on March 30th, GYBE! will be playing in the Empire Music Hall in Belfast, and for this I am truly grateful. Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jan 24 05:12:07 2000 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 10:12:07 -0000 Subject: HW:NO Appearance in London this weekend Message-ID: This could be difficult, apart from Ron, they landed in New Zealand last night... Neil. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Browne" To: "Multiple recipients of list BOC-L" Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 9:35 AM Subject: HW: Appearance in London this weekend > OK gang, just to remind you, the band are scheduled to appear in London > at the T.U.C. Centre (by Tottenham Court Road tube) from 12 noon > "signing their works and chatting to the band all afternoon" > > This SUNDAY 30th January, at the T.U.C. Centre Comics, Cards and related > Mart. Admission Free. > > I have to go the Toy Trade Fair at Olympia this Sunday, and probably > can't make the signing, but it won't be from lack of trying. Anyone else > going? Is Dave going to be there? > > cheers > -- > Jon From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Mon Jan 24 00:27:31 2000 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:27:31 +0000 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! Message-ID: > << But 2000 years since what wasn't the birth date of a prophet I > don't worship anyway? Who cares! What mattered to me was what > mattered to most people, I guess. It was when the odometer > rolled over a couple of weeks ago, however meaningless an event > that was in historical or mathematical terms. It was the simple > fact of never again being able to write "19xx", and the thought > of how *much* water had passed under the bridge since the last > time that left digit changed. >> > > Which would be, gee, exactly one thousand years! Who SAYS 2000 wasn't the > millennium, doggone it? :-) > > SET Pretty much the gist of what I was trying to say. One of the most vocal critics of us "2000 people" was Arthur C. Clarke, but I suspect he was just pissed because he took the time to do the math when he wrote "2001". It's kinda like spending all weekend on a gnarly homework assignment, then showing up to class Monday morning being the only kid who did it. . . and then the teacher says, "Well, since no one did the homework, I guess we'll just have cupcakes and soda today." -- Nick From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Mon Jan 24 00:27:31 2000 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:27:31 +0000 Subject: BOC: Bad Channels Message-ID: > >>>-A reissue of the "Bad Channels" movie soundtrack, featuring music by > Blue Oyster Cult, is due soon. There will be bonus tracks and the > whole CD will now consist of 30 tracks.<<< > > I wonder if the "bonus tracks" include any BOC stuff? Anybody else know = > about this? > > Brad Dahl I just saw it at a record store in New Jersey this weekend. The cover has some kinda demon-looking fellow on the front. It was an import, priced at about 22 bucks American. I only briefly looked at the track listing, and I didn't see any difference. If anything, I suspect the "bonus tracks" were just more soundtrack bits. But I could be wrong. -- Nick From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jan 24 06:32:21 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:32:21 +0000 Subject: HW:NO Appearance in London this weekend In-Reply-To: <001501bf6653$7fbbdc40$0e01a8c0@tnt2> Message-ID: In message <001501bf6653$7fbbdc40$0e01a8c0 at tnt2>, Neil Ward writes >This could be difficult, apart from Ron, they landed in New Zealand last >night... > > >Neil. ah. those full page ads in Comics International wishful thinking on Trev's part then..... Still, that should give Ron something to do this weekend, then! -- Jon From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 24 07:15:25 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:15:25 GMT Subject: HW: Future HW Titles In-Reply-To: John H. McCartney's message of Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:31:52 -0800 Message-ID: John H. McCartney writes: > Out of the Egg, Into the Frying Pan :) This is Your Brain: [Other side} This is Your Brain on Hawkwind Any Questions? From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jan 24 11:44:37 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:44:37 -0500 Subject: HW/OFF: Aural Innovations #9 Message-ID: Tim commented... >np - Live at Palace Springs That one isn't exactly Live *at* Palace Springs, as I assume PS is 'made up.' A bastardization of Alice Springs, Australia I presume. I don't know why though, seeing it's from the American tour. Anyone know what this is supposed to mean? As far as Oz goes, I'm very glad to see that the band are at least going to do three shows over there, though it would certainly have been nice to cover more of the country. Two shows in Sydney and the other (Byron Bay?) is apparently near Brisbane, is that right Paul? Well, let's hope that lots of folks actually hear about the gigs and can make the travel arrangements in time. Who's all going? And what's this Happy Valley festival like? I searched online for it, and only found a passing mention in one site. >(Hey Keith, from your demo tapes you're responsible for me getting two Ashra >albums and a Stereolab.) Oh, cool...which Ashra's did you get? Hopefully, the ones with Tempel at the end. :) You preferred Stereolab to Komeda? Hmmm....I thought Stereolab was a little stale in their stylishness compared to Komeda, who livened up the Can rhythms into something quite fun. [I would've named them CanAbbaS actually. :) ] But then, I guess I have a bit of a 'thing' for Lena Karlsson, and not so much of one for Laetitia. Keith H. (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jan 24 12:01:59 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:01:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: Quarkstock 2K Message-ID: Hi Folks...FYI...Keith H. (FAA) Quarkstock 2000 tickets now available for purchase. Quarkstock 2000, a music festival featuring some of the top spacerock and avant-prog bands from the US, will take place Memorial Day Weekend (5/27-8/2000) at Ruby Tuesday's in Columbus Ohio. Scheduled to play are: Alien Planetscapes, Architectural Metaphor, Born to Go, Dark Aether Project, Escapade, French TV, Quarkspace and Tombstone Valentine. The SolarFire Lightshow will provide their acclaimed visual psychedelic experience. Tickets for both days are $20 each, with a $12 one-day pass also available. They are available through Eternity's Jest Records, at (614)294-8612, pwdood at quarkspace.com or through the mail at PMB 212, 1487 W. Fifth Ave., Columbus OH 43212. We accept VISA, MC, Amex and checks/MO. There are a limited number of tickets available, and we expect them to move quickly, so be sure and get your ticket today! Also Quarkspace (in their rare "techno-beatnik" form) will be appearing with the John Mullins Band this Saturday, Jan. 29th at the Balcony in Oxford OH at Miami University. Eternity's Jest Records.... dedicated to bringing freaky music to the ears of listeners across the world. Featuring the progressive, eclectic sounds of quarkspace and National Steam. Real Audio and MP3 files at http://www.quarkspace.com From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Jan 24 12:11:57 2000 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:11:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Uncle Nik in Sweden Message-ID: dhuggins schrieb: > Does Pseudo Sun have a website? Any CDs or mp3s out yet? As far as I know no website/mp3s yet. CD?s: - Future Memoirs (1997) self-released, 45 min of classic spacerock - Atomic dogs don?t bark (1999) not released yet, Juba is still looking for a record company! Still spacerock but more proggish with mellotron + violin An excellent album!. Tapes: - Aliens only (1998) released on Mick Magick?s M+E label, feat. outtakes from Future memoirs + solo stuff by Juba - Astral Voyage (1999) released this month under the name "Captain?s log" again on Mick Magick?s M+E label, contains 60 min of pure cosmic instrumental music by Juba on all instruments + Eric L. on drums. Sounds like a mix of Ashra Tempel and Can to my ears! Andreas From flossbac at NLCI.COM Mon Jan 24 12:47:34 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:47:34 -0500 Subject: HW/OFF: Aural Innovations #9 Message-ID: Wow.... Stereolab are definitely one of my favorites. After seeing them live, I was completely hooked....what amazing shows these folks put on....usually complete with avant-freakout electronic jams at the end of the set, and it's amazing that Laetitia's voice is so perfectly on pitch all the time.... John Majka From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Mon Jan 24 12:58:27 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:58:27 -0000 Subject: HW: Uncle Nik in Sweden Message-ID: There is at least one CD. Go to http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com and type Pseudo Sun into the search box. Review and contact details are there. Regards, SAH NP Pointy Birds - 3 Song EP On 23 Jan 00, at 16:48, dhuggins wrote: > Does Pseudo Sun have a website? Any CDs or mp3s out yet? > > At 11:43 AM 1/23/00 +0100, you wrote: > >I am proud to announce the following concert event in Sweden: > > > >NIK TURNER & PSEUDO SUN > >Rockland, Sala, Sweden > >Saturday, March 11th 2000 > > > >Chances are that there are more gigs to follow, so watch this space! > > > >Pseudo Sun is (to my ears at least) Sweden?s best band. Forget Darxtar. > >The band consists of: Juba Nurmenniemi - bass, synths & vocals Mats Singh > >- guitar & vocals Eric Lindesv?rd - drums > Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground E-zine, freezine and online Record Store http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot From chip at PCC.COM Mon Jan 24 13:03:53 2000 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:03:53 -0500 Subject: Funny "Lemmy" Sighting Message-ID: http://members.localnet.com/~ptrkoz/lemmy.html ...has to be seen to be believed. -- Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com Physician's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip 1 Main Street * Work:800-722-7708 Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: 802-846-8178 From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jan 24 13:22:30 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:22:30 -0500 Subject: OFF: darXtar bio Message-ID: Hi Folks... Hmmmm...saw this wonderfully factual (NOT!) short bio of darXtar on www.insound.com (they have a separate space rock section!). Keith H. (FAA) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Soren "Darklord" Martensson began recording as Darxtar in 1989, and added bassist/vocalist Captain Juba just before his first recording, Darker (released in 1993 on Garageland). The space rockers' second release, Daybreak, also included drummer Patric Danielsson and violinist Fredric Sundqvist. ~ John Bush, All Music Guide From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jan 24 13:25:02 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:25:02 -0500 Subject: Funny "Lemmy" Sighting Message-ID: Chip thus pointed us to... >http://members.localnet.com/~ptrkoz/lemmy.html > > ...has to be seen to be believed. Future Bass Assassinette #1. Weird. Very weird. That would scare even the Lemster himself! Keith H. (FAA) From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Jan 24 13:06:35 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:06:35 EDT Subject: Funny "Lemmy" Sighting In-Reply-To: <200001241820.NAA07630@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On 24 Jan 00, at 13:25, K Henderson wrote: > Chip thus pointed us to... > > >http://members.localnet.com/~ptrkoz/lemmy.html > > > > ...has to be seen to be believed. > Golria's parents must be so proud. Hey, hurry up, somebody go get her dad's head out of the oven... theo From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Jan 24 14:06:36 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:06:36 -0800 Subject: HW: Collector's Series Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:47:59 -0000, Andy Gilham wrote: >> Coll. Ser. 7 - Weird 104 / Hawklords Live 1978, the question in >> Andy's mind >> whether this is the same as the Hawklords Live on Dojo/Griffin. > >The original Weird 104 is quite different to the Live 1978 album. Much >better too, imo. I'll agree, except that the Weird Tape doesn't have "25 Years" on it, which is possibly my very favorite live track from the Hawklords era. And, on Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:52:12 +0000, Dave Berry wrote: >>Final question...is the Atomhenge 1976 likely to be the same Atomhenge >>recording that was popping up on CD-R last year from somewhere in >>Scandinavia? (Or at least Henrik had copies available for a brief spell.) > >What was the sound quality of that like? My guess is that tapes from that long ago >would be fairly poor, unless EMI have found another tape in their vaults or something. Regarding the 'Atomehenge' CD-R boot on Lone Wolf Records, you're correct about the sound quality (and the Lone Wolf 'Quark Night In Paris' sounds even worse!), but it's only a single CD, while the "Collector Series" version is listed as a double CD. Hopefully, if the "Collector Series" release is taken from the same tape, it will get a bit of digital cleanup before release. My copy of the LWR 'Atomhenge' sounds much better when I play it through a BBE Sonic Maximizer (a rackmount device intended to improve sound quality for live club performances or for home/project studio recordings - running well-recorded sounds through the unit results in little change, but it works wonders with poor-quality live recordings), so there are definitely ways to improve the sound. And speaking of "EMI's" vaults, has everyone heard about EMI music being bought-out/merged with Time Warner? And then there were four ... (Sony, Warner EMI, Seagrams & BMG Philips) ... support Independent Music labels! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Mon Jan 24 14:23:11 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:23:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Collector's Series In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000124110636.0093e590@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: Yes AOL Time Warner tendered an offer for EMI in the UK today. Michael S. Habiby VP Sales and Marketing the CableShoppe, inc. One Prospect Ave. Albany, NY 12206 (800) 386-2300 (518) 489-0269 - fax cableshoppe at global2000.net or mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com ________________________ RAnd speaking of "EMI's" vaults, has everyone heard about EMI music being bought-out/merged with Time Warner? And then there were four ... (Sony, Warner EMI, Seagrams & BMG Philips) ... support Independent Music labels! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Mon Jan 24 14:24:12 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:24:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Collector's Series In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000124110636.0093e590@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: At 11:06 24.1.2000 -0800, you wrote: >Regarding the 'Atomehenge' CD-R boot on Lone Wolf Records, you're correct >about the sound quality (and the Lone Wolf 'Quark Night In Paris' sounds >even worse!), but it's only a single CD, while the "Collector Series" >version is listed as a double CD. Hopefully, if the "Collector Series" >release is taken from the same tape, it will get a bit of digital cleanup >before release. My copy of the LWR 'Atomhenge' sounds much better when I >play it through a BBE Sonic Maximizer (a rackmount device intended to >improve sound quality for live club performances or for home/project studio >recordings - running well-recorded sounds through the unit results in >little change, but it works wonders with poor-quality live recordings), so >there are definitely ways to improve the sound. I've got here a better (sound quality) tape from the same gig which is longer than the LWR produktion. Here is the track list: 27.09.1976, BRISTOL, COLSTON HALL, 80/10 intro / reefer madness / paradox / chronoglide skyway / hassan i sahba / brainstorm / wind of change / instrumental / steppenwolf / uncle sam's on mars / time for sale / back on the streets / sonic attack / kerb crawler I've managed to get this tape burned by a good friend (RW) on a double CD-R. I am VERY pleased with the sound quality!! Please notice that there is a short instrumental before STEPPENWOLF on my tape. cheers Bernhard From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jan 24 18:01:33 2000 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:01:33 -0000 Subject: HW:RON Appearance in London this weekend Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Browne" To: "Multiple recipients of list BOC-L" Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 11:32 AM Subject: HW:NO Appearance in London this weekend > ah. > > those full page ads in Comics International wishful thinking on Trev's > part then..... > > Still, that should give Ron something to do this weekend, then! > Ron is going to try to get there, and may bring Rizz with him too, don't hold your breath though. Looks like the reunion gig has been postponed again according to Ron. Neil. From MLawrenc at VITGDTS1.TELSTRA.COM.AU Mon Jan 24 17:38:00 2000 From: MLawrenc at VITGDTS1.TELSTRA.COM.AU (Lawrence, Marty [IBM GSA]) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:38:00 +1100 Subject: HW:RON Appearance in London this weekend Message-ID: So why is Ron not touring with the Band In NZ/Aus ? regards Marty ---------- From: Neil Ward To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW:RON Appearance in London this weekend Date: Tuesday, 25 January 2000 10:01am ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Browne" To: "Multiple recipients of list BOC-L" Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 11:32 AM Subject: HW:NO Appearance in London this weekend > ah. > > those full page ads in Comics International wishful thinking on Trev's > part then..... > > Still, that should give Ron something to do this weekend, then! > Ron is going to try to get there, and may bring Rizz with him too, don't hold your breath though. Looks like the reunion gig has been postponed again according to Ron. Neil. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jan 24 20:07:09 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:07:09 -0500 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! In-Reply-To: <200001222222.RAA24051@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 05:22:21PM -0500 Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 05:22:21PM -0500, K Henderson wrote: > Eric S. said... > > >When Britain went Gregorian, they also changed New Years from 25 > >March to 1 January, as stipulated by Pope Gregory. > > Why was New Years chosen as January 1 anyway? I've never been curious > enough to search into this, but I've always figured it must've been based on > the date of perihelion. It's currently Jan. 4, but because it cycles > through the calendar year every 23,000 years or so, it would only take about > 200 years for it to drift 3 days (though I can remember at the moment which > way it drifts, forward or backward). Dunno, but it goes *way* back. Julius Caesar decreed it, but [1] calls it "an earlier calendar reform that had not always been adhered to". The ancients were more clueful than the mediaevals about some things, but I suspect orbital eccentricity is pushing it :-) I guess they wanted, for whatever reason, to start the year at the winter solstice instead of the spring equinox, and made the quite reasonable decision that having New Years in the middle of the month was a really dumb idea and they should stop doing it, so they settled for the nearest month-end rather than the solstice itself. > Now though, that I realize the Catholic Church was involved, I see it must > be something much more meaningful. :) And totally unrelated to the perihelion. Well, they *undid* that bit of Caesar's reform. "... the church didn't like the wild parties that took place at the start of the new year, and in AD 567 the council of Tours declared that having the year start on 1 January was an ancient mistake that should be abolished." [2] They then go on to list 7 different schemes that were in use before the Gregorian reformation which assigned New Years to Jan. 1 for good(?). Incidentally, the weird month lengths aren't Caesar's fault. Starting in March (notwithstanding that he moved New Years to January), his year went 31, 30, 31, 30, ... right through until it ran out of days at the end of February, which only got 29 days (30 in leap years). The Senate renamed the month Quintilius after him (hence July). And then he was offed, and Octavian became emperor and renamed himself Augustus. The senate decided to honour Augustus with a month too and accordingly renamed Sextilis. Of course it just would not do for Augustus's month to be shorter than Julius's, so they stole a day from February to make August 31 days long, and switched the lengths of the remaining four months to keep from having three 31-day months in a row. References: [1] Duncan, David Ewing, "Calendar: Humanity's Epic Struggle to Determine a True and Accurate Year" (Avon Books, 1998). Good book; readable, entertaining, and packed with obscure details like the month-length story, and also the stuff I said before about Newton. [2] Calendar FAQ: I didn't use the following for this post, but did for my earlier ones: [3] "The Catholic Encyclopedia", entry for "Chronology", [4] "The Catholic Encyclopedia", entry for Dionysius Exiguus, [5] The Calendar Zone, -- somebody's labour-of-love index of calendar-related Web sites -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jan 24 20:07:57 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:07:57 -0500 Subject: HW:RON Appearance in London this weekend In-Reply-To: <200001242337.KAA16048@mail.cdn.telstra.com.au>; from MLawrenc@VITGDTS1.TELSTRA.COM.AU on Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 09:38:00AM +1100 Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 09:38:00AM +1100, Lawrence, Marty [IBM GSA] wrote: > So why is Ron not touring with the Band In NZ/Aus ? Visa problems, so the rumour has it. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Jan 25 00:00:07 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:00:07 EST Subject: HW/OFF: Aural Innovations #9 Message-ID: In a message dated 1/24/00 8:45:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > > >np - Live at Palace Springs > > That one isn't exactly Live *at* Palace Springs, as I assume PS is 'made > up.' A bastardization of Alice Springs, Australia I presume. I don't know > why though, seeing it's from the American tour. Anyone know what this is > supposed to mean? > I figured the "Palace" came from the fact that one of the gigs was at the Palace in Hollywood...as for the "Springs"...dunno... Speaking of which: > As far as Oz goes, I'm very glad to see that the band are at least going to > do three shows over there, though it would certainly have been nice to cover > more of the country. Two shows in Sydney and the other (Byron Bay?) is > apparently near Brisbane, is that right Paul? Well, let's hope that lots of > folks actually hear about the gigs and can make the travel arrangements in > time. Who's all going? And what's this Happy Valley festival like? I > searched online for it, and only found a passing mention in one site. Hey, you Aussies get HW all the time! When was the last time they actually played a gig in Los Angeles? I'm _praying_ that that "stop by the West Coast" indeed happens after the NZ/OZ tour... Still yet to see a HW concert, Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Jan 25 03:15:10 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 03:15:10 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 1/22/00 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINAMP : 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. 1/22/00 1.Tribe of Cro--Ritual Meditation (Potlach) 2.Nebula Trip--Waves Across the Galaxy (Birth) 3.Ozric Tentacles--Waterfall City (Waterfall Cities) 4.Saddar Bazaar--Arabesque (split 7") 5.13th Floor Elevators--Livin' On (Bull of the Woods) 6.Sundial--Sunstroke/Mind Train (Reflecter) 7.Frank Zappa--Penguin in Bondage (Roxy and Elsewhere) 8.Pat Metheny Group--Are You Going W/Me? (Travels--dedicated to Nicole) 9.Mushroom--Rackets (Analog Hi-fi Surprise) 10.Hawkwind--Kadu Flyer (Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music) 11.Dark Sun--Feed Your Mind (Feed Your Mind) 12.F/i--Starspot (Helioscopium) 13.Green Light--Under Toe (Amberdelic Space vol. 2 comp) 14.The New York Room--Long Slow Waves of Color (The Color of Midnight) 15.The Tea Party--Fire in the Head (Edges of Twilight) 16.Word of Life--Dreamer (...Dust) 17.Amp/3rd Ear Foundation--Ombres (b-side of Saddar Bazaar "Arabesque" 7") 18.Hawkwind--7 By 7 (Space Ritual) 19.Gong--You Never Blow Yr Trip Forever (You) 20.Faust--last 9 minutes of "Tapes" 21.Pipedream--Passing Trains (The Journey from Hamburg to Iceland Begins) 22.Nik Turner--Horus (Sphynx) 23.Architectural Metaphor--Brainticket (Odysseum Galacti) Chuck From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jan 25 04:10:34 2000 From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juba N) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:10:34 GMT Subject: lyrics Message-ID: Hi! Could somebody provide me with the lyrics to "D-Rider" and to "Watching the grass grow",please? Juba ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Jan 25 06:14:55 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 06:14:55 -0500 Subject: NIK:5.15 & Nik In-Reply-To: <200001191655.SAA29621@pefletti.saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: Damn! 5:15's cover of "Silver Machine" utterly rocks! I put it up alongside the original HW single version above all the other's I've heard. Thanks Andy :) The live versions of "Dancing with Mrs. Fisher" and "Waterfall" with Brian Robertson are also way cool. I take it the fourth track is the Captain Beyond tribute? That's good too. More bands should release singles like this :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 25 06:17:42 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:17:42 GMT Subject: Illuminati in Space Message-ID: THEY're trying to Immanetize the Eschaton I tell ya... -- A Friend of Fernando Poo > ------- Forwarded Message > > > Just when you thought the continuiiiiing story of "Mir in > Space" couldn't get any weirder, another Western business > partner has emerged to save Mir and convert it into that > anti-news stalwart "an orbiting space hotel for > billionaires". This time, who should it be but Gold & Appel > Transfers, of the Cayman Islands. Yup, "Gold & Appel > Transfers": last observed in Shea and Wilson's ILLUMINATUS! > trilogy as the front organisation for neophile outlaw > Hagbard Celine and his Legion of Dynamic Discord. > Terrifyingly for the few who still believe that book to be > fiction, G&A is a real company with funds of over $300 > million. President Walt Anderson made his money as > co-founder of Esprit Telecom, and is now a major investor in > the Space Frontier Foundation and the Roton, the orbital > transfer system that looks like a beanie. G&A have already > offered $21 million to the Russian government to maintain > Mir in a serviceable orbit, with more, they say, to come. > It's unclear whether the group of investors can really > rustle up the huge amounts needed to maintain Mir; but > wouldn't it be nice if, when the ISS finally boots in the > 22nd century, NASA found that a bunch of Discordians had > beaten them to it? > http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/front/docs/mir13.htm > - financier "reclusive"; Cayman Islands last outcropping of Atlantis > http://www.reston.com/nasa/watch.html > - fnord > > ------- End of Forwarded Message From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jan 25 06:23:57 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 06:23:57 EST Subject: Illuminati in Space Message-ID: passing comment to say i'm a regular on the "russian" page at a site called Disaster Message Service, and recently encountered a bloke who used the phrase "illuminati/masonic/jewish regime" with a straight face. it's all a plot, i tell ya... a/k/a "L'menexe" "<>" From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 25 06:30:26 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:30:26 GMT Subject: lyrics In-Reply-To: Juba N's message of Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:10:34 GMT Message-ID: Juba N writes: > Hi! > > Could somebody provide me with the lyrics to "D-Rider" and to "Watching the > grass grow",please? Here they are. Speaking of which, we need the lyrics from the new poems on the recent gigs if anyone has managed to transcribe 'em yet. We're also missing the lyrics for The Hippie/Starfire Mountain Dreaming. FoFP D-RIDER ======= We're children playing in the sun A sense of freedom on the run We never knew what time it was We just knew how sublime it was Our course determined by our stars My momma knows just where we are The Earth was forming from below A dragon showed which way to go Spacing out, we're spacing in Phasing out, we're phasing in Turning up by burning out Lifting off and gazing in Our luck, it changes with the tide Our constellations changing side Macro mirror-image fades Our over-conscience colour shades We're astral-planing, floating free On our continuum frequency A ring was formed out of the stone Metamorphose, tetraform Spacing out, we're spacing in Phasing out, by phasing in Turning up by burning out Lifting off and gazing in ________________________________________________________________________ Watching the Grass Grow ======================= We are the Survivors The eternal survivors Androgynous energies Travelling through time Particle Accelerators Morality Degenerators Dadata Disseminators Cyclotron attenuators Hyperspatial Conflagrators MEST Integrators Well your neutron bomb neutralised your history Wiped cancer from the Earth, and mystery Now we're pushing over concrete Blowing up the rockery Watching the garden Letting the grass grow Letting the grass grow We all know where the flowers went today Media explosion blew them all away After the thunder Always comes the rain We're coming up again Letting the grass grow Letting the grass grow Post future reality, it's a better real world Post future reality, it's a real better world Post future super-reality, it's a real super world Post holocaust hilarity, it's a super real world Post future surreality, it's sure a surreal world Post future surreality, it's a real surreal world Tell me Doc Spock have you got all your answers Ephemeral vision recalling the dancers Picking up the pieces In a progress picture Taking samples to his curator Letting the grass grow Watching the grass grow Pieces of the omniversal zoo But will we survive? we always do We're coming up again We're coming up again We're coming up again Watching the grass grow Watching the grass grow Watching the grass grow __________________________________________________________________________ From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Tue Jan 25 06:48:01 2000 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:48:01 +0100 Subject: AW: lyrics Message-ID: >we need the lyrics from the new poems on the recent gigs if anyone has managed to transcribe 'em >yet. You can find the lyrics for EEDEA KARAN in the booklet of the "In Your Area" CD Bernhard From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Tue Jan 25 08:03:02 2000 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:03:02 -0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 24 Jan 2000 to 25 Jan 2000 Message-ID: Just in case any of the Derby local area gang are interested - Dr Hasbeen at The Victoria on Thursday 3rd Feb - It's mine and Mary's birthdays and it's free. You also get a chance to see our new bass player in action. BTW - any joy on the outlook 2000 query ? Later, Mark From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jan 25 12:56:12 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:56:12 -0500 Subject: HW/OFF: Sloterdijk in Trenton Message-ID: Forwarded from Spacerockers...Sloterdijk is a Strange Daze vet BTW. For those in the NYC/Philadelphia/Baltimore area. I think members of Born To Go may be coming along also. Keith H. (FAA) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hello everyone, Mike Burro of Sloterdijk here. It's the time of year when my alter ego, ARTIMUS, resurfaces and begins to play acoustic music in little places.. Now some of you may remember last spring's "For The People Tour", which was a real blast. At this time I have no plans for an ARTIMUS tour because Sloterdijk is keeping me very, very busy, however ARTIMUS will be making an appearance in Trenton, New Jersey on Saturday, February 5th, and YOU are invited!!! You are invited not just to listen, but to play as well...We will be playing at: The Greenstreet Ice Cream Cafe & Coffeeouse 893 South Broad Street. Trenton New Jersey. This is an open mic event, so it will not be a terribly long set, but we are asking others to sign up the same night, and thus make it a sort of surprise social event.. I understand that not everyone plays both electric/electronic music and acoustic/semi acoustic music, but if you do, I encourage you to sign up and play...If you have questions about what type of equipment setup is appropriate, I strongly encourage you to call the coffeeshop and ask them, so as to avoid not being able to play.. Now sign-up is at 6:30 p.m. with the first act to begin at 7:00 p.m. The program will continue till 10:30 p.m. Phone number is: (609) 392-6870 Please let me know if you plan to play, by e-mailing me, as I'd like to know so that I can continue to update information.. ARTIMUS & Friends will include: Artimus (Mike Burro): Acoustic guitar, vocals Jay Adcock : djembe & brushed snare drum Robert McConnel: Bass Guitar Rob Baker: Acoustic guitar Our material for the evening will include songs by: David Bowie, Marc Bolan,The Rutles (Neil Innes), Hawkwind, Syd Barrett and more if time permits....depends on the turnout.. Peace, Mike Burro From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Jan 25 13:01:18 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:01:18 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Funny "Lemmy" Sighting In-Reply-To: <200001241820.NAA07630@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, K Henderson wrote: => Chip thus pointed us to... => => >http://members.localnet.com/~ptrkoz/lemmy.html => > => > ...has to be seen to be believed. => => Future Bass Assassinette #1. => => Weird. Very weird. That would scare even the Lemster himself! Is the father standing on a couple of telephone directories in that photo, or is he really that much taller than his wife??? ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jan 25 13:18:19 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:18:19 -0500 Subject: OFF: ST 37 review Message-ID: Review from Magnet Magazine (www.magnetmagazine.com)... I agree...this is a really good album. Keith H. (FAA) ST 37: I Love To Talk, If There's Anything To Talk About As Texas psychedelia continues to proliferate, groups like ST 37 churn out textured sonic treasures with amazing regularity. On its latest album, the atmospheric quintet avoids the requisite Krautrock cover tunes and tackles lengthy original compositions instead. The one retread taken from its Euro-ambient, space-age hit factory is the Eno/Cale composition "Lay My Love," which is more of a melodic little song (nicely done, I might add) than a dronological magnum opus with hallucinogenic properties. Still, compositions like the 17-minute "Palpable" followed by the nine-minute "Discorporate" show that the group hasn't forsaken its space-rock roots. Clearly, ST 37 and its Austin brethren Seven Percent Solution (whose member James Adkisson makes an appearance on E-bow) have studied hard and assimilated their influences properly. I Love To Talk is an album filled with subtle dynamics and plenty of cosmic implications. Whooshing space sounds, tribal drumming and distorted guitars fill these tracks, and their spoken/shouted/murmured vocals only add to the underlying urgency of impending psychic disintegration. The group's dramatic juxtaposition of synthesizers, studio effects, tapes and floating steel guitars works well, and the fivesome interacts with obvious empathy and a shared musical vision. I prefer the band's languid space drones over the uptempo rockers, but that's just a matter of personal taste. ST 37 succeeds at creating a swirling, hypnotic environment that should be perfect for your next acid trip. [Emperor Jones, POB 49771, Austin TX 78765] - Mitch Myers From eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jan 25 14:50:09 2000 From: eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM (Suicide Victory) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:50:09 PST Subject: HW: NZ and 5'15 Message-ID: Curious who Simon Earl Taylor is and why Ron Tree isn't on the NZ tour? Also, where to order that Turner/Five Fifteen CD single? I need to sue someone for having my HW 97 CD cracked on the edge during a police search for playing loud music. Chr. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From christmu at EUNET.NO Tue Jan 25 15:02:48 2000 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:02:48 +0100 Subject: test Message-ID: just testing..... Chr. From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Tue Jan 25 15:18:05 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 15:18:05 -0500 Subject: NZ and 5'15 In-Reply-To: <20000125195009.21338.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Tree= assumed visa problems Taylor=Yank who played at Strange Daze 99 Mike cool pics of Ron and the boyz at http://www.geocities.com/mhabiby1/IndexHawks.html from the 1997 tour. Just follow from the red font near the bottom of the page. ================================================================ Curious who Simon Earl Taylor is and why Ron Tree isn't on the NZ tour? Also, where to order that Turner/Five Fifteen CD single? I need to sue someone for having my HW 97 CD cracked on the edge during a police search for playing loud music. Chr. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jan 25 16:31:08 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:31:08 -0800 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:30:26 GMT, M Holmes wrote: >D-RIDER >======= >Our course determined by our stars >My momma knows just where we are Wouldn't this be "My MANNA knows ..."? As in magic(k)al power/energy, not a female parent? >The Earth was forming from below >A dragon showed which way to go What is it with these easily-misunderstood-as-mom (or, in the UK, mum) lyrics in all these Hawkwind songs? -Doug ceres at sirius.com "Your android replica is playing up again Ah it's no joke When she comes she moans your mother's name ..." "So you're alive I thought you was done I'm gonna bring you down With my Mean Old Mum" etc. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jan 25 16:25:27 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:25:27 -0800 Subject: OFF: ST 37 review Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:18:19 -0500, Keith Henderson wrote: >Review from Magnet Magazine (www.magnetmagazine.com)... > >I agree...this is a really good album. Keith H. (FAA) > >ST 37: I Love To Talk, If There's Anything To Talk About [...review snipped...] I must also add that this is a truly great album. It has been fantastic to hear ST37 progress over the course of their five full-length albums (plus numerous cassettes, singles, compilations and a split album w/Voco Kesh), and this is easily their best yet (take note, 'Spaceage' fans!). It's also nice that they're finally on a well-distributed indie label, so you actually might be able to find it at your local CD shop. In the same sessions, they also recorded another Eno cover ("Seven Deadly Finns", slated for a tribute album), as well as the Germs' (going back to their punk roots again!) "Land of Treason" (no idea who's gonna put THAT out!). Hopefully we'll get to see them at SD2000 ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Jan 25 17:33:08 2000 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:33:08 +0100 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:30:26 GMT, M Holmes wrote: > >D-RIDER > >======= > >Our course determined by our stars > >My momma knows just where we are > > Wouldn't this be "My MANNA knows ..."? I don't think "Manna" would fit. First, with "manna" instead of "momma" the whole sentence doesn't make any sense. "My manna knows just where we are" sounds very strange to me (I'm not a native speaker however). But it does make more sense with "momma" IMHO. Second, in the first verse it says "We are children playing in the sun" The "momma" could be related to "children". >As in magic(k)al power/energy, BTW, manna with two n's is not magical energy. Manna is an edible substance created by the Jewish and Christian God. The energy you mean is written with only one n. D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 25 17:44:51 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:44:51 +0000 Subject: Illuminati in Space Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > > THEY're trying to Immanetize the Eschaton I tell ya... > > -- A Friend of Fernando Poo > > ------- Forwarded Message > > Just when you thought the continuiiiiing story of "Mir in > > Space" couldn't get any weirder, another Western business > > partner has emerged to save Mir and convert it into that > > anti-news stalwart "an orbiting space hotel for > > billionaires". This time, who should it be but Gold & Appel > > Transfers, of the Cayman Islands. Yup, "Gold & Appel > > Transfers": last observed in Shea and Wilson's ILLUMINATUS! > > trilogy as the front organisation for neophile outlaw > > Hagbard Celine and his Legion of Dynamic Discord. And remember that Robert Anton Wilson will be making an appearance on Channel 4 TV on Thursday night 12.40pm on "Disinfo Nation". There is however a review of the programme which suggests it was a "missed opportunity" so it should be fun but not particularly revalatory. Hail Eris jill ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jan 25 18:04:34 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 15:04:34 -0800 Subject: OFF OS:: Motorhead Message-ID: On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:30:00 -0000, Stuart A Hamilton wrote: >There's an interview with Lemmy in this months Record Collector >(UK) magazine, with some nice b&w pics. I got to thumb through this during my lunch break ... a number of questions (and good photos, although you've probably seen 'em before) regarding Hawkwind. He mentions that he's glad that Nik Turner finally apologized to him over his sacking about six months before the interview ... >.."Being fired from HW is rather like being pushed off the Empire >State building for liking height.." You left out the two most important words! "Being fired from Hawkwind FOR DRUGS is rather like being pushed off the Empire State Building for liking height." Good article. It also mentions that his rock&roll covers album will be out on Cleopatra. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 25 18:50:31 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:50:31 -0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Motorhead Message-ID: >"Being fired from Hawkwind FOR DRUGS is rather like being pushed off the Empire State Building for liking height."< Tut tut. what a disgraceful insinuation. And after all that model of probity Ron Tree said about naughty substances on the last tour! and to think Mr 'Clean, sane and really quite boring' Turner did anything but the obvious! Shame on you Mr Kilminster :-) T From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jan 25 18:58:09 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:58:09 EST Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 1/25/00 4:30:23 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: << My momma knows just where we are >> ======== i thought it was "no longer know just where we are" m'self to the extent i'd think of it "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jan 25 19:05:39 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:05:39 EST Subject: OFF OS:: Motorhead Message-ID: In a message dated 1/25/00 6:03:27 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: << You left out the two most important words! "Being fired from Hawkwind FOR DRUGS is rather like being pushed off the Empire State Building for liking height." >> ========= nah, they werent left out... didnt they appear in everyone's head? lolol we all knew. ^_~ i think ol' lem was (gasp!) being subtle.. "<>" From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Jan 25 21:29:11 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:29:11 -0500 Subject: Illuminati in Space In-Reply-To: <388E2763.8ED81305@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 10:44:51PM +0000 Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 10:44:51PM +0000, Jill wrote: > And remember that Robert Anton Wilson will be making an appearance on > Channel 4 TV on Thursday night 12.40pm on "Disinfo Nation". I don't suppose Channel 4 does the Webcast thing, for those of us a few thousand kliks out of broadcast range? > Hail Eris All hail Discordia -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From christmu at EUNET.NO Tue Jan 25 22:08:22 2000 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 04:08:22 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind: Thrilling Hawkwind Stories Message-ID: Saw this at CDnow - no tracklisting but its listed on Griffin out on Feb 22. Chr. From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Tue Jan 25 23:02:45 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:02:45 EST Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: KILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMIS TERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKIL MISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTER!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THERE IS NO 'N' IN 'KILMISTER'!!!!!!!!!!!!! We see this all the time in the press, on dodgy comps; let's end it here. It's a respect thing. rmayo From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jan 25 23:15:03 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:15:03 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: Momma said... >In a message dated 1/25/00 4:30:23 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > ><< My momma knows just where we are >> > >======== >i thought it was > >"no longer know just where we are" Well, hell, I know that these lyrics are written in Nik's own handwriting in an old issue of Hawkfan. Surely somebody can look it up! Mine's at home in a box somewhere. But I seem to remember Momma as being correct as Mike had it. I also remember that the word 'enow' appears in there, which baffled the hell out of me until my brother suggested it was a slang UK abbreviation for 'enough.' Is that true? Keith H. (FAA) P.S. How many here went through about eight zillion different possibilities for 'She said', 'She's dead', 'Caesar,' 'Seizure,' etc. ad infinitim. :) From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Jan 25 23:11:27 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:11:27 -0600 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: Thank you Robert! In all these years, I've wondered too what the correct spelling was. I'm going to take your word that "Kilmister" is the definitive answer. :-) Karen "Robert C. Mayo" wrote: > > KILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMIS > TERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKIL > MISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTERKILMISTER!!!!!!!!! > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > THERE IS NO 'N' IN 'KILMISTER'!!!!!!!!!!!!! > We see this all the time in the press, on dodgy comps; let's end it here. > It's a respect thing. > rmayo -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jan 25 23:41:07 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:41:07 -0500 Subject: OFF: Quarkstock 2K Message-ID: Hi Folks... Here's the tentative Quarkstock menu list and times...Keith H. (FAA) Saturday 5/27/2000 6PM French TV 8PM Dark Aether Project 10PM ArcMet 12PM Quarkspace Sunday 5/28/2000 4PM Tombstone Valentine 6PM Escapade 8PM Born to Go 10PM Alien Planetscapes From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Jan 26 00:00:48 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:00:48 EST Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: my money's on DASLUD. '><' \O/ ---!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (sorry, lb...) From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jan 26 04:15:58 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:15:58 PST Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: > > THERE IS NO 'N' IN 'KILMISTER'!!!!!!!!!!!!! For some reason I would hasten to object. I've never seen Lemmy's surname spelt in any other way than KILMINSTER. It makes sense too, as an English (ie from England) surname, unlike Kilmister which just sounds silly. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Jan 26 04:32:06 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:32:06 -0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: Nope. It's Kilmister. Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: Horse Whisperer To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 9:15 AM Subject: Re: OFF OS:: Mowturhed > > > THERE IS NO 'N' IN 'KILMISTER'!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > For some reason I would hasten to object. I've never seen Lemmy's surname > spelt in any other way than KILMINSTER. It makes sense too, as an English > (ie from England) surname, unlike Kilmister which just sounds silly. > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Wed Jan 26 04:36:26 2000 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:36:26 +0100 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: Horse Whisperer wrote: > For some reason I would hasten to object. I've never seen Lemmy's surname > spelt in any other way than KILMINSTER. It makes sense too, as an English > (ie from England) surname, unlike Kilmister which just sounds silly. On the official Motorhead-website (www.imotorhead.com) you can find an interview (Motorhead Speaks -> February 3 1999) where Lemmy answers a question about his real name: it _is_ Kilmister. D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jan 26 05:10:38 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 05:10:38 EST Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: In a message dated 1/26/00 4:17:20 AM, beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM writes: << For some reason I would hasten to object. I've never seen Lemmy's surname spelt in any other way than KILMINSTER. It makes sense too, as an English (ie from England) surname, unlike Kilmister which just sounds silly. ___ >> ======== for some otra reason i would less-hastily amble over to agree w/mr. mayo. just dont move so quick at 5 am... 'kilmister' it is, from here.... "<>" From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 26 06:51:27 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:51:27 GMT Subject: HW: lyrics In-Reply-To: Denis Regenbrecht's message of Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:33:08 +0100 Message-ID: Denis Regenbrecht writes: > Doug Pearson wrote: > > > On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:30:26 GMT, M Holmes wrote: > > >D-RIDER > > >======= > > >Our course determined by our stars > > >My momma knows just where we are > > > > Wouldn't this be "My MANNA knows ..."? > > I don't think "Manna" would fit. > First, with "manna" instead of "momma" the whole sentence doesn't make > any sense. > "My manna knows just where we are" > sounds very strange to me (I'm not a native speaker however). But it > does make more sense with "momma" IMHO. > > Second, in the first verse it says > "We are children playing in the sun" > The "momma" could be related to "children". > > >As in magic(k)al power/energy, > > BTW, manna with two n's is not magical energy. Manna is an edible > substance created by the Jewish and Christian God. Which some scholars believe to have been mushrooms. FoFP From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Wed Jan 26 06:52:18 2000 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:52:18 -0000 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson [mailto:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] Sent: 26 January 2000 04:15 Subject: Re: HW: lyrics Keith H. (FAA) P.S. How many here went through about eight zillion different possibilities for 'She said', 'She's dead', 'Caesar,' 'Seizure,' etc. ad infinitim. :) I know on eperson (me) who for a giggle sang 'Sh*t Head' several times one night and nobody noticed - you hear what you want when you can't quite parse the incoming data n'est pas. Mark. From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Wed Jan 26 07:24:00 2000 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:24:00 +0100 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > > Denis Regenbrecht writes: > > BTW, manna with two n's is not magical energy. Manna is an edible > > substance created by the Jewish and Christian God. > > Which some scholars believe to have been mushrooms. This could explain some of the visions etc. all those prophets had. Perhaps I should secede from atheism and convert to Christianity. ;-) D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jan 26 07:27:21 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 04:27:21 PST Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: >On the official Motorhead-website (www.imotorhead.com) you can find >an interview (Motorhead Speaks -> February 3 1999) where Lemmy >answers a question about his real name: it _is_ Kilmister. Guess I am wrong then. No wonder realy, trusting the English press and all that, but it also explains why I couldn't get a response from www.motorhead.com. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Jan 26 07:38:49 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:38:49 -0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: I'm fairly sure that it's printed as 'Kilminster' on quite a lot of album covers / labels / credits. But it *is* Kilmister. Isn't everything you read in the Daily Mirror / Star / Sun / Financial Times / Mirfield Reporter absolutely true then? :-) Cheers, Rich. ObAlbum: Slade Alive ----- Original Message ----- From: Horse Whisperer To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 12:27 PM Subject: Re: OFF OS:: Mowturhed > >On the official Motorhead-website (www.imotorhead.com) you can find > >an interview (Motorhead Speaks -> February 3 1999) where Lemmy > >answers a question about his real name: it _is_ Kilmister. > > Guess I am wrong then. No wonder realy, trusting the English press and all > that, but it also explains why I couldn't get a response from > www.motorhead.com. > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jan 26 07:01:39 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:01:39 -0000 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: I'm well tempted to say if you're thinking hard about the lyrics, you're missing the fundamental point of the music ~_~ (Cant get the hang of non-horizontal thingymajigs Daslud..... oh no....Keith's gonna start telling us about using the character set properly again...aargh!) @ @ - is that better? T From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jan 26 04:30:55 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:30:55 +0000 Subject: Illuminati in Space In-Reply-To: <388E2763.8ED81305@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: In message <388E2763.8ED81305 at theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk>, Jill writes >And remember that Robert Anton Wilson will be making an appearance on >Channel 4 TV on Thursday night 12.40pm on "Disinfo Nation". > >There is however a review of the programme which suggests it was a >"missed opportunity" so it should be fun but not particularly >revalatory. I saw him lecture a couple of years ago, and that's how I'd describe his live show, too. Having said that he did sink half a bottle of Wild Turkey during the talk. -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jan 26 04:25:20 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:25:20 +0000 Subject: HW: NZ and 5'15 In-Reply-To: <20000125195009.21338.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: In message <20000125195009.21338.qmail at hotmail.com>, Suicide Victory writes >I need to sue someone for having my HW 97 CD cracked on the edge during a >police search for playing loud music. Welcome back, Chris. Sorry to hear your CD's are *still* getting busted in a variety of interesting ways. Where you been, anyway? -- Jon From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Jan 26 09:38:17 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:38:17 EST Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: the site's address is www.imotorhead.com guess someone beat them to 'motorhead.com' kilmisterkilmisterkilmister, rmayo From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jan 26 09:49:42 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:49:42 EST Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 1/26/00 9:18:12 AM, timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << (Cant get the hang of non-horizontal thingymajigs Daslud..... >> === them sideways ones just dont do me nothin... oh no....Keith's gonna start telling us about using the character set properly again...aargh!) === @ @ - is that better? >> ================ yeah, that'n's okay, if'n you must... "<>" From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Wed Jan 26 10:28:07 2000 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:28:07 -0500 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed In-Reply-To: <20000126091558.3487.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Horse Whisperer wrote: > > > THERE IS NO 'N' IN 'KILMISTER'!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > For some reason I would hasten to object. I've never seen Lemmy's surname > spelt in any other way than KILMINSTER. It makes sense too, as an English > (ie from England) surname, unlike Kilmister which just sounds silly. I thought Lemmy was Welsh? Rob V. Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jan 26 10:34:25 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:34:25 -0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > I thought Lemmy was Welsh? Not unless Stoke-on-Trent moved to Wales while I wasn't looking... -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Wed Jan 26 05:49:36 2000 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:49:36 +0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: > On the official Motorhead-website (www.imotorhead.com) you can find an > interview (Motorhead Speaks -> February 3 1999) where Lemmy answers a > question about his real name: it _is_ Kilmister. Absolutely. . . although longtime Motorhead fans have seen it spelled and/or pronounced in the dog-gondest (word?) ways. I think it may have been Kurt Loder on MTV who many years back said it "Kilmeister". -- Nick From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Jan 26 11:37:00 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:37:00 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics In-Reply-To: <000501bf6808$9902fc40$562b883e@timsteph>; from timnjaq@TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Wed, Jan 26, 2000 at 12:01:39PM -0000 Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 26, 2000 at 12:01:39PM -0000, Tim Stephenson wrote: > I'm well tempted to say if you're thinking hard about the lyrics, you're > missing the fundamental point of the music ~_~ Our kind of music anyway. Earnest folkie singer-songwriter types are another story... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 26 13:19:14 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:19:14 GMT Subject: [Bernhard Pospiech: Re: MK CD-R] Message-ID: For the purposes of the Tour '99 Compilation CDs I'm looking for info about which guests played on which tracks at the following gigs. For example I know that Turner turned up during "Utopia" at Croydon and stayed on for the rest of the gig. This is in aid of selecting tracks with guests even if not the best quality of the tapes and also to get the info on the CD covers. If you can help, please do. It's in a good cause... FoFP Here's Bernhards tracklists and lists of guests > 09.11.1999, NORWICH, WATERFRONT, 110/9 [House and Bainbridge guested] > intro / aerospaceage inferno / eedea karan / motorway city / assault & > battery / golden void / anna seed / arrival in utopia / hassan i sahba / > space is their / hassan i sahba / hippie / high rise / blue skin / > instrumental / brainstorm / warriors / right stuff / gremlin / spirit of > the age / master of the universe > 10.11.1999, MILTON KEYNES, WAVENTON STABLES, 115/9 [House and Bainbridge guested] > aerospaceage inferno / eedea karan / motorway city / assault & battery / > golden void / anna seed / arrival in utopia / hassan i sahba / hippie / > high rise / blue skin / instrumental / brainstorm / instrumental / green > finned demon / right stuff / gremlin / master of the universe / spirit of > the age / jam > 14.11.1999, CROYDON, FAIRFIELD HALLS, 100/9 [House, Bainbridge, Turner and Rizz guested] > intro / aerospaceage inferno / eedea karan / motorway city / assault & > battery / golden void / utopia / arrival in utopia / hassan i sahba / space > is their / hassan i sahba / hippie / green finned demon / blue skin / > brainstorm / ejection / gremlin / master of the universe From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Jan 26 13:33:07 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:33:07 -0800 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:38:49 -0000, Richard Lockwood wrote: >I'm fairly sure that it's printed as 'Kilminster' on quite a lot of album >covers / labels / credits. I'm certain of this too, and will fully confess - GUILTY AS CHARGED! (but at least I wasn't the first!) >But it *is* Kilmister. Yes. So can anyone explain why it's listed as "Willis" on the Sam Gopal album?!?!? That's not even close! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Wed Jan 26 13:35:23 2000 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:35:23 -0000 Subject: [Bernhard Pospiech: Re: MK CD-R] In-Reply-To: <200001261819.SAA10966@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 26 Jan 00, at 18:19, M Holmes wrote: > For the purposes of the Tour '99 Compilation CDs I'm looking for info > about which guests played on which tracks at the following gigs. For > example I know that Turner turned up during "Utopia" at Croydon and > stayed on for the rest of the gig. > > This is in aid of selecting tracks with guests even if not the best > quality of the tapes and also to get the info on the CD covers. > > If you can help, please do. It's in a good cause... > > FoFP > > > Here's Bernhards tracklists and lists of guests > > > 09.11.1999, NORWICH, WATERFRONT, 110/9 > > [House and Bainbridge guested] > > > intro / aerospaceage inferno / eedea karan / motorway city / assault > > & battery / golden void / anna seed / arrival in utopia / hassan i > > sahba / space is their / hassan i sahba / hippie / high rise / blue > > skin / instrumental / brainstorm / warriors / right stuff / gremlin > > / spirit of the age / master of the universe It's worth emphasising that Simon is present for all tunes even if probably inaudible for the first uh several. > > > 10.11.1999, MILTON KEYNES, WAVENTON STABLES, 115/9 > > [House and Bainbridge guested] > > > aerospaceage inferno / eedea karan / motorway city / assault & > > battery / golden void / anna seed / arrival in utopia / hassan i > > sahba / hippie / high rise / blue skin / instrumental / brainstorm / > > instrumental / green finned demon / right stuff / gremlin / master > > of the universe / spirit of the age / jam Harvey was off stage taking a breather for Aerospaceage Inferno. Alasdair -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jan 26 13:32:46 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:32:46 -0000 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: > >In a message dated 1/25/00 4:30:23 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > > > ><< My momma knows just where we are >> > > > >======== > >i thought it was > > > >"no longer know just where we are" My go at the indecipherable lyrics round: I thought it was something like.. "..Our momma knows just where we are The Earth is warming far below Our dragons show which way to go..." could be more difficult though, could be Right to Decide.... Ian From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 26 13:59:56 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:59:56 +0000 Subject: HW: lyrics In-Reply-To: <200001260410.XAA07057@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: At 04:15 26/01/00 , K Henderson wrote: >P.S. How many here went through about eight zillion different possibilities >for 'She said', 'She's dead', 'Caesar,' 'Seizure,' etc. ad infinitim. :) For a long while I thought it was "Is he sane?". Now I've no idea what it really is. I think they change it when we're not listening properly. Dave. Dave Berry, www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~daveb From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Wed Jan 26 14:07:55 2000 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:07:55 -0500 Subject: SD 98 Setlist Message-ID: Was going through some of my HW stuff and found a set list that I got at Strange Daze '98. It's handwritten with notes specifically for Steve Taylor. Anybody interested in getting a copy? Let me know. Dan From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jan 26 14:11:49 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:11:49 -0000 Subject: HW: lyrics In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000126185849.009bf1b0@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > At 04:15 26/01/00 , K Henderson wrote: > >P.S. How many here went through about eight zillion different > possibilities > >for 'She said', 'She's dead', 'Caesar,' 'Seizure,' etc. ad infinitim. :) > > For a long while I thought it was "Is he sane?". Now I've no > idea what it really is. I think they change it when we're not > listening properly. > > Dave. They do change, though, don't they? Like "you get nowhere/you get no air/you're getting aware" and "being born/seeing god/brainstorm" etc? -- Andy ObCD: Do Make Say Think - _Do Make Say Think_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Wed Jan 26 14:17:11 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:17:11 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: >On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:30:26 GMT, M Holmes wrote: >>D-RIDER >>======= >>Our course determined by our stars >>My momma knows just where we are > >Wouldn't this be "My MANNA knows ..."? As in magic(k)al power/energy, not >a female parent? Gotta disagree. The mama line seems to go with the line- "Like children playing in the sun..." >>The Earth was forming from below >>A dragon showed which way to go > >What is it with these easily-misunderstood-as-mom (or, in the UK, mum) >lyrics in all these Hawkwind songs? > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > >"Your android replica is playing up again >Ah it's no joke >When she comes she moans your mother's name ..." > >"So you're alive >I thought you was done >I'm gonna bring you down >With my Mean Old Mum" LOL! rj >etc. From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jan 26 13:46:28 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:46:28 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics (&BOC) Message-ID: >At 04:15 26/01/00 , K Henderson wrote: >>P.S. How many here went through about eight zillion different possibilities >>for 'She said', 'She's dead', 'Caesar,' 'Seizure,' etc. ad infinitim. :) 'Sea King' / 'Seeking'... 'looking into valleys' / 'looking into violence'... my favorites though, are from Imaginos: 'Ant Track Tools' vs. 'Amtrack Trains' 'Carpe Diem' vs. 'Cappuchino', etc... I had a friend who thought 'needle gun' was 'tweedledum'.... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jan 26 15:20:24 2000 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 20:20:24 -0000 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: Right to Decide is easy: do you want the lyrics? --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: IAN ABRAHAMS To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 6:32 PM Subject: Re: HW: lyrics > > >In a message dated 1/25/00 4:30:23 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > > > > > ><< My momma knows just where we are >> > > > > > >======== > > >i thought it was > > > > > >"no longer know just where we are" > > My go at the indecipherable lyrics round: I thought it was something like.. > > "..Our momma knows just where we are > The Earth is warming far below > Our dragons show which way to go..." > > could be more difficult though, could be Right to Decide.... > > Ian From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jan 25 15:06:53 2000 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:06:53 -0000 Subject: NIK:5.15 & Nik Message-ID: Well don't sit on this sort of information tells us lurkers please where we too can here such groovy tunes! Basically is there a MP3 available or must we purchase an Album/Single and which must we purchase! Doc -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 25 January 2000 11:15 Subject: Re: NIK:5.15 & Nik >Damn! 5:15's cover of "Silver Machine" utterly rocks! I put it up >alongside the original HW single version above all the other's I've >heard. Thanks Andy :) > >The live versions of "Dancing with Mrs. Fisher" and "Waterfall" with >Brian Robertson are also way cool. I take it the fourth track is the >Captain Beyond tribute? That's good too. More bands should release >singles like this :) > >Cheers, >Carl > >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson >mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk >http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jan 25 15:13:12 2000 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:13:12 -0000 Subject: Fw: Illuminati in Space Message-ID: Is it Neophiles or Neophites? Real Illuminati or Mock Illuminati? Concorde or Discord? Death Ray or Love Beam? Too many questions not enough acid Aaaarggh! Here come the JAMs Mu Mu! Doc (nobodies a friend of Fernando Poo we just use it in different ways) >THEY're trying to Immanetize the Eschaton I tell ya... > >-- A Friend of Fernando Poo > > > >> ------- Forwarded Message >> >> >> Just when you thought the continuiiiiing story of "Mir in >> Space" couldn't get any weirder, another Western business >> partner has emerged to save Mir and convert it into that >> anti-news stalwart "an orbiting space hotel for >> billionaires". This time, who should it be but Gold & Appel >> Transfers, of the Cayman Islands. Yup, "Gold & Appel >> Transfers": last observed in Shea and Wilson's ILLUMINATUS! >> trilogy as the front organisation for neophile outlaw >> Hagbard Celine and his Legion of Dynamic Discord. >> Terrifyingly for the few who still believe that book to be >> fiction, G&A is a real company with funds of over $300 >> million. President Walt Anderson made his money as >> co-founder of Esprit Telecom, and is now a major investor in >> the Space Frontier Foundation and the Roton, the orbital >> transfer system that looks like a beanie. G&A have already >> offered $21 million to the Russian government to maintain >> Mir in a serviceable orbit, with more, they say, to come. >> It's unclear whether the group of investors can really >> rustle up the huge amounts needed to maintain Mir; but >> wouldn't it be nice if, when the ISS finally boots in the >> 22nd century, NASA found that a bunch of Discordians had >> beaten them to it? >> http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/front/docs/mir13.htm >> - financier "reclusive"; Cayman Islands last outcropping of Atlantis >> http://www.reston.com/nasa/watch.html >> - fnord >> >> ------- End of Forwarded Message > From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jan 26 15:55:39 2000 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 20:55:39 -0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: check out back of Doremi Faso Latido fraid it's Kilmister!! Doc -----Original Message----- From: Horse Whisperer To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 26 January 2000 09:19 Subject: Re: OFF OS:: Mowturhed >> > THERE IS NO 'N' IN 'KILMISTER'!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >For some reason I would hasten to object. I've never seen Lemmy's surname >spelt in any other way than KILMINSTER. It makes sense too, as an English >(ie from England) surname, unlike Kilmister which just sounds silly. >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Wed Jan 26 06:15:47 2000 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:15:47 +1100 Subject: HW/OFF: Aural Innovations #9 Message-ID: On 24 Jan 00, at 11:44, K Henderson wrote: > As far as Oz goes, I'm very glad to see that the band are at least going to do > three shows over there, though it would certainly have been nice to cover more > of the country. Two shows in Sydney and the other (Byron Bay?) is apparently > near Brisbane, is that right Paul? Byron Bay (the venue is the "Great Northern" AFAIK) is on the North coast of New South Wales (the state in which Sydney is the capital), but it's closer to Brisbane the Sydney. It's also the home of Daevid Allen and Gilli Smith of Gong fame .... I wonder if they'll make an appearance??? > Well, let's hope that lots of folks > actually hear about the gigs and can make the travel arrangements in time. > Who's all going? I'm thinking of either driving the 10 hours to Sydney for the Metro gig if I can get a few days off > And what's this Happy Valley festival like? I searched > online for it, and only found a passing mention in one site. No idea .. it's the first I'd heard of it. It's Festival season now in Oz, so it could be anything Then, On 25 Jan 00, at 0:00, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > Hey, you Aussies get HW all the time! How does "never" translate to "all the time" ???? > Still yet to see a HW concert, Chuck Ditto. Paul/Sonique -- The email address ---> sonique at sonique.net The current project ---> http://sonique.net/house The bank balance ---> In the red :) From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Jan 26 18:21:52 2000 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:21:52 EST Subject: HW/NZ Message-ID: Are they actually there? Did everyone get thru customs??? Bill From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jan 26 18:59:38 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:59:38 -0000 Subject: HW/NZ In-Reply-To: <8a.93b9d5.25c0db90@aol.com> Message-ID: Yes they did, there's a report on www.hawkwind.com... -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Bill Stewart > Sent: 26 January 2000 23:22 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW/NZ > > > Are they actually there? Did everyone get thru customs??? > Bill > From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Jan 26 15:08:07 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 20:08:07 +0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 15:34 26.01.2000 -0000, you wrote: >> >> I thought Lemmy was Welsh? > >Not unless Stoke-on-Trent moved to Wales while I wasn't looking... > >-- Andy > It did, but couldn't settle down & learn the language, so it moved back again ( & anyway, the natives were hostile to Robbie Williams 8-{P> ) Yours Facetiously, ChrisW obLP: Hall Of The Mountain Grill "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 26 19:40:33 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:40:33 GMT Subject: SD 98 Setlist In-Reply-To: Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]'s message of Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:07:55 -0500 Message-ID: Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] writes: > Was going through some of my HW stuff and found a set list that > I got at Strange Daze '98. It's handwritten with notes specifically > for Steve Taylor. So what do they call the first and second tracks we have down as "Intro" and "Control"? FoFP From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jan 26 20:48:45 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 01:48:45 +0000 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! In-Reply-To: <200001222222.RAA24051@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from K Henderson on Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 05:22:21PM -0500 Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 05:22:21PM -0500, K Henderson wrote: > ObCD: Unlimbo - Prahna Fish (gotta mention something about music) Care to offer a review of that? Delerium were enthusiastic but then they often are. But it looked kinda cool... Yours, Jon -- /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | =====================================================================| |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| \______________________________________________________________________/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jan 26 21:28:31 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 02:28:31 +0000 Subject: OFF: ST 37 review In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000125132527.0093f830@pop.sirius.com>; from Doug Pearson on Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 01:25:27PM -0800 Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 01:25:27PM -0800, Doug Pearson wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:18:19 -0500, Keith Henderson > wrote: > >Review from Magnet Magazine (www.magnetmagazine.com)... > > > >I agree...this is a really good album. Keith H. (FAA) > > > >ST 37: I Love To Talk, If There's Anything To Talk About > > [...review snipped...] > > I must also add that this is a truly great album. It has been fantastic to > hear ST37 progress over the course of their five full-length albums (plus > numerous cassettes, singles, compilations and a split album w/Voco Kesh), > and this is easily their best yet (take note, 'Spaceage' fans!). It's also > nice that they're finally on a well-distributed indie label, so you > actually might be able to find it at your local CD shop. All very well, but where am I going to find a copy of _Invisible College_, eh? , yours, Jon -- /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | =====================================================================| |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| \______________________________________________________________________/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jan 26 22:47:33 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:47:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: Can anyone help? Message-ID: Hi Folks... I was just wondering if anyone can help me out. Does anyone here subscribe to any of these US-based music magazines??? Goldmine Alternative Press Discoveries (also published by the Goldmine people I think) Progression I'd just like to know if any recent issues of these 'zines contain reviews of any of the following CDs on the Garden of Delights label out of Germany: Pentagon - Die Vertreibung der B?sen Geister aus dem Pentagon (CD 034) Gila - Night Works (CD 035) Eiliff - Close Encounters with their Third One (CD 036) If there is a separate review section for reissues (or perhaps imports?), that's where it would likely be. If anyone gets these and keeps them around long enough (well, it wouldn't have appeared before September, 1999) to check, I'd like to know if any reviews of these have shown up and in what issue, so I can go out and get a copy before it's too late. Please reply by e-mail (Henderson.120 at osu.edu) if you're willing to help. Thanks...Keith H. (FAA) P.S. BTW, the Gila and Eiliff CD's are *really* good. We might be adding them (and some others from that label) to our stock items at Aural Innovations (very shortly to be Aural-Innovations.com), so if you might want a copy, hang on for a couple weeks. P.P.S. I checked out one recent issue of Alt. Press in the store today, and while not finding any of these reviewed, they had a nice review (4 out of 5) of Primordial Undermind's latest (w/ Doug 'Ceres' Pearson). So, where's Eric gone off to *this* time, Doug? Back to Boston? From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Jan 27 00:12:08 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:12:08 EST Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 1/26/00 11:11:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > They do change, though, don't they? Like "you get nowhere/you get no > air/you're getting aware" and "being born/seeing god/brainstorm" etc? > > -- Andy Good topic. I don't know if many are as interested in this track as I, but I've been wondering about Hashcake'77/Cake Out's sole chant: "Someone took a shower!!" Would that indeed have been a shock at the time, or were the Hawks pretty observant of physical cleanliness... Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Jan 27 00:18:00 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:18:00 EST Subject: HW: lyrics (&BOC) Message-ID: In a message dated 1/26/00 11:20:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, mordru at FLITE.NET writes: > had a friend who thought > > 'needle gun' was 'tweedledum'.... > I love this stuff. I had a friend who made several hilarious guesses: 1.I've got a Soda Machine!! 2.Tommy Left!! The same person also made the observation that the sudden gush of wind in the orig. studio version of "Master of the Universe" sounded like someone just blew on a mike... Chuck From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Thu Jan 27 02:01:39 2000 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:01:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury vote Message-ID: Hi What a chase!!! Radiohead: 447 votes Hawkwind: 443 votes Thursday, 27.01.2000 (08:00am) Bernhard From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jan 27 03:12:29 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 03:12:29 EST Subject: OFF: Can anyone help? Message-ID: In a message dated 1/26/00 10:47:41 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: << Discoveries (also published by the Goldmine people I think) >> ========== unless Discoveries was bought out by Krause publications in recent years, there's no connection there... "<>" From Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG Thu Jan 27 04:24:40 2000 From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG (Olivier Boigey) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:24:40 +0200 Subject: HW: lyrics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message ID on 27/01/0, BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List wrote: BDL> Good topic. I don't know if many are as interested in this track BDL> as I, but I've been wondering about Hashcake'77/Cake Out's sole BDL> chant: "Someone took a shower!!" Would that indeed have been a BDL> shock at the time, or were the Hawks pretty observant of physical BDL> cleanliness... Chuck Being a non native english speaker, I have always heard something like shamanic invocations in there ! Olivier -_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/- Olivier Boigey mailto:olivier_boigey at technolink.org http://www.bwaje.claranet.fr -_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/- - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jan 27 04:04:29 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:04:29 +0000 Subject: HW: lyrics In-Reply-To: <200001260410.XAA07057@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: In message <200001260410.XAA07057 at mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K Henderson writes >P.S. How many here went through about eight zillion different possibilities >for 'She said', 'She's dead', 'Caesar,' 'Seizure,' etc. ad infinitim. :) RJ pointed out a while back, the lyric is "Cheesehead". -- Jon From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Jan 27 04:57:24 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:57:24 -0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: You've got the Sam Gopal album?! Can you let me know where you live, and when the house is likely to be empty? ;-) I'm afraid I haven't got a bastard clue Magnus. Cheers, Rich. ObAlbum: Ambrose Slade - Beginnings > >I'm fairly sure that it's printed as 'Kilminster' on quite a lot of album > >covers / labels / credits. > > I'm certain of this too, and will fully confess - GUILTY AS CHARGED! (but > at least I wasn't the first!) > > >But it *is* Kilmister. > > Yes. So can anyone explain why it's listed as "Willis" on the Sam Gopal > album?!?!? That's not even close! > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Jan 27 05:00:12 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:00:12 -0000 Subject: HW: lyrics (&BOC) Message-ID: Check out www.kissthisguy.com ... Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew A. Apold To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 6:46 PM Subject: Re: HW: lyrics (&BOC) > >At 04:15 26/01/00 , K Henderson wrote: > >>P.S. How many here went through about eight zillion different possibilities > >>for 'She said', 'She's dead', 'Caesar,' 'Seizure,' etc. ad infinitim. :) > > 'Sea King' / 'Seeking'... > > 'looking into valleys' / 'looking into violence'... > > my favorites though, are from Imaginos: > > 'Ant Track Tools' vs. 'Amtrack Trains' > 'Carpe Diem' vs. 'Cappuchino', > > etc... > > I had a friend who thought > > 'needle gun' was 'tweedledum'.... > > > "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random > =============== > Andrew Apold __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO Thu Jan 27 05:23:32 2000 From: ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO (Ketil Svendsen) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:23:32 +0100 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: >But it *is* Kilmister. >Yes. So can anyone explain why it's listed as "Willis" on the Sam Gopal >album?!?!? That's not even close! it was - i think i read somewhere - his father's name. check out mo'head's "poison" for why changing it to his mother's(?) surname, kilmister. i wondered about this for a while, though... and, oh yeah, i've got the "escalator" lp as well - and feel very lucky about it ;-) ...great album, really listenable piece of psych. best, ketil svendsen, (who is currently getting sued by a nude model. true, sadly.) norway From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jan 27 05:27:29 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:27:29 -0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed In-Reply-To: <006a01bf68ac$ea6192f0$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk> Message-ID: Last I saw, www.forcedexposure.com (and lots of others besides, probably) had it in stock. Might even have it on vinyl too, you never know. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Richard Lockwood > Sent: 27 January 2000 09:57 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF OS:: Mowturhed > > > You've got the Sam Gopal album?! Can you let me know where you live, and > when the house is likely to be empty? ;-) > > I'm afraid I haven't got a bastard clue Magnus. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ObAlbum: Ambrose Slade - Beginnings > > > > > >I'm fairly sure that it's printed as 'Kilminster' on quite a > lot of album > > >covers / labels / credits. > > > > I'm certain of this too, and will fully confess - GUILTY AS > CHARGED! (but > > at least I wasn't the first!) > > > > >But it *is* Kilmister. > > > > Yes. So can anyone explain why it's listed as "Willis" on the Sam Gopal > > album?!?!? That's not even close! > > > > -Doug > > ceres at sirius.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Jan 27 05:29:33 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:29:33 -0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: > and, oh yeah, i've got the "escalator" lp as well - and feel very lucky about it ;-) ...great album, really listenable piece of psych. Anyone want to rip it to MP3 for me - or, maybe just tape it? :-) > > best, > ketil svendsen, (who is currently getting sued by a nude model. true, sadly.) Fantastic! Tell us more! Cheers, Rich. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Jan 27 05:39:42 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:39:42 -0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: They do! Italian version. (Went for the CD in the end though.) Are we beering Monday? Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 10:27 AM Subject: Re: OFF OS:: Mowturhed > Last I saw, www.forcedexposure.com (and lots of others besides, probably) > had it in stock. Might even have it on vinyl too, you never know. > > -- Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Richard Lockwood > > Sent: 27 January 2000 09:57 > > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > > Subject: Re: OFF OS:: Mowturhed > > > > > > You've got the Sam Gopal album?! Can you let me know where you live, and > > when the house is likely to be empty? ;-) > > > > I'm afraid I haven't got a bastard clue Magnus. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > ObAlbum: Ambrose Slade - Beginnings > > > > > > > > > >I'm fairly sure that it's printed as 'Kilminster' on quite a > > lot of album > > > >covers / labels / credits. > > > > > > I'm certain of this too, and will fully confess - GUILTY AS > > CHARGED! (but > > > at least I wasn't the first!) > > > > > > >But it *is* Kilmister. > > > > > > Yes. So can anyone explain why it's listed as "Willis" on the Sam Gopal > > > album?!?!? That's not even close! > > > > > > -Doug > > > ceres at sirius.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jan 27 06:29:12 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:29:12 EST Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/00 5:22:41 AM, ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO writes: << ketil svendsen, (who is currently getting sued by a nude model. true, sadly.) >> ========== aren't ye gonna tell us wazzup w/this now that we've all been TEASED? oh how cruel... "<>" From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Jan 27 07:28:00 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:28:00 -0000 Subject: Covers... Message-ID: Is anyone keeping a list of HW/BOC covers? Found this on Forced Exposure... Artist: HIJOKAIDAN Title: Tapes Label: ALCHEMY (JAPAN) Format: CD Price: $20.00 Catalog Number: ARCD 069 CD reissue of one of Hijokaidan's 5th LP, from 1987, with a cover design ala Faust's Tapes. Includes their more underground-rock stylings under the omnipresent white noise sheen, even a cover of Hawkwind's "Silver Machine"! Don't know if it's been mentioned before. Cheers, Rich. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From iscladoc at IDIR.NET Thu Jan 27 08:05:33 2000 From: iscladoc at IDIR.NET (Allan T Grohe Jr) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 07:05:33 -0600 Subject: Covers... In-Reply-To: <020f01bf68c1$f3c36930$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Richard Lockwood wrote: > Is anyone keeping a list of HW/BOC covers? Yep, I'm still tracking them, with the eventual release of a HW Covers All Vol 5 (and 6??) in mind. > Found this on Forced Exposure... > Artist: HIJOKAIDAN > Title: Tapes > CD reissue of one of Hijokaidan's 5th LP, from 1987, with a cover design ala > Faust's Tapes. Includes their more underground-rock stylings under the > omnipresent white noise sheen, even a cover of Hawkwind's "Silver Machine"! > > Don't know if it's been mentioned before. Doesn't appear on my list of the 1st four tapes. Thanks for the info! Allan. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan T. Grohe, Jr. Visit the Dreaming City iscladoc at idir.net http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr If you want to view paradise / simply look around and view it Anything you want to, do it / Want to change the world there's nothing to it . . . . -- "Pure Imagination" from _Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory_ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jan 27 08:18:27 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:18:27 -0000 Subject: Covers... In-Reply-To: <020f01bf68c1$f3c36930$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk> Message-ID: Yeah, I got this one. It's very scary indeed, but oddly enough is the most melodic track on the album. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Richard Lockwood > Sent: 27 January 2000 12:28 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Covers... > > > Is anyone keeping a list of HW/BOC covers? > > Found this on Forced Exposure... > > Artist: HIJOKAIDAN > Title: Tapes > Label: ALCHEMY (JAPAN) > Format: CD > Price: $20.00 > Catalog Number: ARCD 069 > CD reissue of one of Hijokaidan's 5th LP, from 1987, with a cover > design ala > Faust's Tapes. Includes their more underground-rock stylings under the > omnipresent white noise sheen, even a cover of Hawkwind's "Silver > Machine"! > > Don't know if it's been mentioned before. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jan 27 04:10:24 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:10:24 -0000 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: I defy the most deeply serious Hawkfan not to smirk at "The wind of time is passing through me" the family can never work out why I always have a quick giggle when listening to my loudest Hawk stuff on the headphones. T np- Ozrics, Afterswish From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 27 08:38:44 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:38:44 GMT Subject: HW: lyrics In-Reply-To: Chuck Rosenberg's message of Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:12:08 EST Message-ID: Chuck Rosenberg writes: > Good topic. I don't know if many are as interested in this track as > I, but I've been wondering about Hashcake'77/Cake Out's sole chant: > "Someone took a shower!!" Would that indeed have been a shock at the > time, or were the Hawks pretty observant of physical cleanliness... > Chuck They did have that hit "Washing Machine" single. From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Jan 27 08:33:29 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:33:29 -0500 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: >> Yes. So can anyone explain why it's listed as "Willis" on the Sam Gopal >> album?!?!? That's not even close! >You've got the Sam Gopal album?! Can you let me know where you live, and >when the house is likely to be empty? ;-) Yep, it says "Willis". I quite like the album, too. I think Willis is his mother's last name. Not certain, but I think he's a bastard (so to speak), and at some point decided to take the name of his dad (Lord Kilmister?) "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From flossbac at NLCI.COM Thu Jan 27 09:15:57 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:15:57 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics (&BOC) Message-ID: > > had a friend who thought > > > > 'needle gun' was 'tweedledum'.... > > > > I love this stuff. I had a friend who made several hilarious guesses: > > 1.I've got a Soda Machine!! > 2.Tommy Left!! At my old job, I played a tape of "Spirit of the Age" and someone started spontaneously singing along: "Planet of the apes!" john majka From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Thu Jan 27 09:27:14 2000 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie)) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:27:14 +0100 Subject: Covers... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Op 27 Jan 00, om 7:05, Allan T Grohe Jr schreef: > Yep, I'm still tracking them, with the eventual release of a HW Covers All > Vol 5 (and 6??) in mind. Is motorhead still considered a HW song? Or is it a motorhead song? Or is silver machine covered more than motorhead? --BArt With too many questions in my head, it IS a bad day at the office ;-) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jan 27 09:49:39 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:49:39 EST Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/00 8:37:23 AM, timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << "The wind of time is passing through me" >> ===== no, um, not but through you. heh ^_~ "<>" From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Jan 27 09:17:35 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:17:35 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: >Chuck Rosenberg writes: > >> Good topic. I don't know if many are as interested in this track as >> I, but I've been wondering about Hashcake'77/Cake Out's sole chant: >> "Someone took a shower!!" Would that indeed have been a shock at the >> time, or were the Hawks pretty observant of physical cleanliness... >> Chuck > >They did have that hit "Washing Machine" single. Clean Finned Demon... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Jan 27 09:17:36 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:17:36 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics (&BOC) Message-ID: >At my old job, I played a tape of "Spirit of the Age" and someone started >spontaneously singing along: "Planet of the apes!" I would have liked to have had an opposable thumb on my hand, to pick up stuff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jan 27 09:51:22 2000 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:51:22 -0000 Subject: HW: lyrics (&BOC) Message-ID: And someone here thought that 'A distant hissing in ears' from Sonic Attack was 'A distant pissing in ears' - she was most offended :-) Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ ----- Original Message ----- From: flossbac To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 2:15 PM Subject: Re: HW: lyrics (&BOC) > > > had a friend who thought > > > > > > 'needle gun' was 'tweedledum'.... > > > > > > > I love this stuff. I had a friend who made several hilarious guesses: > > > > 1.I've got a Soda Machine!! > > 2.Tommy Left!! > > At my old job, I played a tape of "Spirit of the Age" and someone started > spontaneously singing along: "Planet of the apes!" > john majka From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Thu Jan 27 10:02:46 2000 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:02:46 -0000 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: Yeah - but "Metamorphosed tetraphone", from D-Rider is total bollox, (speaking as a geologist!) Guy T. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Stephenson [mailto:timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK] Sent: 27 January 2000 09:10 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW: lyrics I defy the most deeply serious Hawkfan not to smirk at "The wind of time is passing through me" the family can never work out why I always have a quick giggle when listening to my loudest Hawk stuff on the headphones. T np- Ozrics, Afterswish From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Thu Jan 27 10:26:24 2000 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:26:24 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Jon Browne wrote: > In message <200001260410.XAA07057 at mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K Henderson > writes > >P.S. How many here went through about eight zillion different possibilities > >for 'She said', 'She's dead', 'Caesar,' 'Seizure,' etc. ad infinitim. :) > > RJ pointed out a while back, the lyric is "Cheesehead". Why is it I'm thinking of the Memorex commercial where the guy is putting up placards with incorrect renditions of Desmond Dekker lyrics ... "Darling, Cheesehead, you were yards too greasy/Oh-ho , me ears are alight" Rob V. Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jan 27 11:08:21 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:08:21 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: I done say... >In a message dated 1/25/00 4:30:23 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > ><< My momma knows just where we are >> > >======== >i thought it was > >"no longer know just where we are" > >>Well, hell, I know that these lyrics are written in Nik's own handwriting in an >>old issue of Hawkfan. Surely somebody can look it up! Mine's at home in a box >>somewhere. >> >>But I seem to remember Momma as being correct as Mike had it. >> >>I also remember that the word 'enow' appears in there, which baffled the hell >>out of me until my brother suggested it was a slang UK abbreviation for >>'enough.' Ah, silly me...it was 'Dying Seas' that appeared in Hawkfan (HF22 I think), not D-Rider. So that's no good. D-Rider isn't one of the ones in the Lyric book is it? Not that the lyric book isn't without its share of errors. Is Andreas still around? Where did you get the lyrics from to do the book? And are you still working on the calligraphy for a second book and when should this become reality? Paul W. suggested once that they planned to do it a couple years ago, right? Keith H. (FAA) P.S. It's funny to read back through old issues of Hawkfan and see all the names of people here that were once distant and obscure. :) From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Thu Jan 27 11:12:33 2000 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:12:33 -0500 Subject: SD 98 Setlist Message-ID: The set list I have for SD 98 reads: Intro-Speeds into wheels Wheels On the Edge Assault and Battery Golden Void Spirit Starfire Mountain Time We Left Space is Deep-jam in d Brainstorm-groove on a-reggae-back Poem-sounds Rat Race Wage War-jam then double time Masters-jam into heads-back to masters I believe the last song played was Brainstorm. Really would have bee nice to hear the rest! -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes [SMTP:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 4:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: SD 98 Setlist Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] writes: > Was going through some of my HW stuff and found a set list that > I got at Strange Daze '98. It's handwritten with notes specifically > for Steve Taylor. So what do they call the first and second tracks we have down as "Intro" and "Control"? FoFP From flossbac at NLCI.COM Thu Jan 27 11:18:20 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:18:20 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: > D-Rider isn't one of the ones in the Lyric book is it? Not that the lyric > book isn't without its share of errors. The lyric book is actually quite funny at times because the lyrics are often so clearly, completely WRONG! Maybe somebody should ask the band members what they were singing.... John Majka From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jan 27 11:26:49 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:26:49 +0000 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! In-Reply-To: <20000121165038.776.qmail@hotmail.com>; from Horse Whisperer on Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 08:50:38AM -0800 Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 08:50:38AM -0800, Horse Whisperer wrote: > >If you can prove to me that Jesus was born exactly 1,999 years ago, > >I'll believe you. > > Can you prove he was born exactly 2,000 years ago? AFAIK current thought > has it that accepted ideas of Jesus' birthdate are somewhere between 30 and > 100 years out, making a bit of a mess of every calendar system used by > Christians so far. Oh well, since we've started :-) Millennium with an `M' is nothing to do with the date, it is the name for the 1000-year reign of Christ which will [adjust to fit your beliefs] follow Armageddon. A `millennium' with an `m' is a 1000-year period, and since our calendar looks back not to 0 AD but 1 BC/1 AD, which is the same year, 2001 will be the 2001st year it marks, making it next year we can celebrate 2000 years of functional calendaring. Except of course it had to be seriously tweaked to get that far several times, so... In conclusion, celebrating the millennium is completely arbitrary unless you believe something particularly special happened on 31st Dec 1 AD because the calendar itself has changed since then. On the other hand, anyone actually celebrating the Millennium knows something I don't. What annoys me particularly about this is that the calendrical stupidity has been governmentally-endorsed. I was also sorry to see Deke Leonard's hopes for the Millennium Bug (which is a Century Bug as any fule kno) disappointed (he says heroically throwing a line in the direction of a list topic). > >Besides, most people partied this year. I'd > >celebrate the new millennium next year, but who wants to party with a > >bunch of physicists and mathematicians? ;) > > Probably their mothers. And other physicists. I know a physicist or two with whom I should be delighted to, well, anything I could get away with really >:-> Yours, Jon -- /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | =====================================================================| |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| \______________________________________________________________________/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jan 27 11:27:05 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:27:05 +0000 Subject: 1st BOC show of the new century! In-Reply-To: <200001211826.NAA00570@issfire2.co.palm-beach.fl.us>; from Andrew A. Apold on Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 01:26:47PM -0500 Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 01:26:47PM -0500, Andrew A. Apold wrote: > >On 21 Jan 00, at 8:50, Horse Whisperer wrote: > > > >> >Besides, most people partied this year. I'd > >> >celebrate the new millennium next year, but who wants to party with a > >> >bunch of physicists and mathematicians? ;) > >> > >> Probably their mothers. And other physicists. > >I don't know about that. My friend's a science geek, and he can > >drink me under the table anytime... > > All together now: > > Emmanuel Kant was a real pissant > who was very rarely stable... > Heidegger, Heidegger (sp?) was a boozy bugger > who could think you under the table.... > > Actually, I would imagine anyone who was able to make money off the > y2k thing and is looking for other ways to make money will try to latch > onto this in hopes of repeating the whole process... (out of work > cobol programmers not withstanding)... It is my firm intention to learn enough Unix to make a killing on the 2038 date crisis. I have plenty of time and judging by the y2k bandits I shouldn't need to learn too much...:-) Yours, Jon -- /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | =====================================================================| |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| \______________________________________________________________________/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jan 27 11:27:13 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:27:13 +0000 Subject: BOC: Bad Channels In-Reply-To: <002f01bf64a6$4c44f6c0$8619adcf@ita.sel.sony.com>; from Brad Dahl on Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:45:04PM -0700 Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:45:04PM -0700, Brad Dahl wrote: > Hey Guys, > > I just saw this bit of info and thought I'd share: > > >>>-A reissue of the "Bad Channels" movie soundtrack, featuring music by > Blue Oyster Cult, is due soon. There will be bonus tracks and the > whole CD will now consist of 30 tracks.<<< > > I wonder if the "bonus tracks" include any BOC stuff? Anybody else know > about this? This thing is already in my CD racks :-) I don't know what's `bonus' and what's not but aside from the two BOC tracks proper there is also about twenty minutes worth of snippets from the actual score of the film. Very odd stuff for BOC - sounds in places exactly like _Firestarter_ by Tangerine Dream except more fragmented and fitted-to-action- you-can't-see. Not exactly brilliant music, but a real expansion to my idea of BOC... Of course, some of the other bands' stuff is really lame but you don't have to play it. Programming a 30-track CD is a bit of a pain though. Yours, Jon -- /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | =====================================================================| |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| \______________________________________________________________________/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jan 27 11:43:26 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:43:26 +0000 Subject: BOC: Neil Smith? Message-ID: Dear All, I found on Usenet a mention of this fella as a one-time BOC drummer; anyone got any further info? Yours, Jon -- /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | =====================================================================| |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| \______________________________________________________________________/ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jan 27 11:47:45 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:47:45 EST Subject: BOC: Neil Smith? Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/00 11:43:48 AM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: << I found on Usenet a mention of this fella as a one-time BOC drummer; anyone got any further info? === >> wasnt this fellow the drummer in the "original" alice cooper? if that's him, he wasnt in BOC... "<>" From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Jan 27 11:28:26 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:28:26 -0500 Subject: BOC: lyrics (was HW: lyrics) Message-ID: >> D-Rider isn't one of the ones in the Lyric book is it? Not that the lyric >> book isn't without its share of errors. > >The lyric book is actually quite funny at times because the lyrics are often >so clearly, completely WRONG! One thing I liked from the lyric book of "Extraterrestrial Live" is that it contains a number of extra lines for 'Black Blade', looking at them I believe they are things Moorcock wrote, but Eric omitted from the final version of the song. Not extra verses, but like one or two lines from each verse... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Jan 27 11:28:27 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:28:27 -0500 Subject: BOC: Neil Smith? Message-ID: > Dear All, > I found on Usenet a mention of this fella as a >one-time BOC drummer; anyone got any further info? Yours, He was a one-time Chief who is now with the Broncos .... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Thu Jan 27 12:17:43 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:17:43 -0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: Don't go there:-( I mentioned this over on the Motorhead list and got savaged in a private e-mail, which went on at great length about Lemmys family background, problems with stepfathers etc, and damned me to eternal Hell for raking it up again. Yours from Eternal Hell, Stuart NP Cro-Mags - Alpha-Omega On 27 Jan 00, at 9:57, Richard Lockwood wrote: > You've got the Sam Gopal album?! Can you let me know where you live, and > when the house is likely to be empty? ;-) > > I'm afraid I haven't got a bastard clue Magnus. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ObAlbum: Ambrose Slade - Beginnings > > > > > >I'm fairly sure that it's printed as 'Kilminster' on quite a lot of > > >album covers / labels / credits. > > > > I'm certain of this too, and will fully confess - GUILTY AS CHARGED! > > (but at least I wasn't the first!) > > > > >But it *is* Kilmister. > > > > Yes. So can anyone explain why it's listed as "Willis" on the Sam Gopal > > album?!?!? That's not even close! > > > > -Doug > > ceres at sirius.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground E-zine, freezine and online Record Store http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 27 12:38:25 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:38:25 GMT Subject: HW: lyrics In-Reply-To: flossbac's message of Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:18:20 -0500 Message-ID: flossbac writes: > > D-Rider isn't one of the ones in the Lyric book is it? Not that the lyric > > book isn't without its share of errors. > > The lyric book is actually quite funny at times because the lyrics are often > so clearly, completely WRONG! > Maybe somebody should ask the band members what they were singing.... "Errr Mumble mumble blobby Universe..." There are several gig tapes where the band have gotten the words wrong or missed out entire lines. Must have been something they ate.. FoFP From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jan 27 12:48:43 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:48:43 -0500 Subject: HW: in Kiwiland Message-ID: On www.hawkwind.com, Richard Stockwell wrote... >The guys got off the plane describing the trip as seeming to last forever >after a twelve-hour stop-over at LA and then the forced 24 hour stop-over in >Hawaii. Some of the members were not allowed to leave their hotel rooms after >drug charges that go back as far as 1969; seems like 30+ years on, not much has >changed within American law. Ugh. Doesn't look promising for that L.A. show on March 10-11, does it? Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Now if it were Whitney Houston, she'd have no problem. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jan 27 12:51:48 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:51:48 -0500 Subject: HW tree (read if on the tree) In-Reply-To: <3885E953.1CF01A67@uswest.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Dan Witt wrote: => > PS: Kudos to Dan for adding yet another successful entry to the roster => > of "BOC-L Projects." => => Thanks, but my work was minimal. They real thanks goes to the kind => taper and the artwork designer. Yes, but often what is needed is someone to provide the inertia to bring a project to fruition: to provide the push from "hey, wouldn't it be a grand idea to tree a show on BOC-L" to actually doing just that and organising it. So, credit where credit is due, I say... Thanks once again. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jan 27 12:59:58 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:59:58 -0500 Subject: OFF: PT YHD re-release Message-ID: Word from Michael Piper, he the owner of the Gates of Dawn label, naturally... YELLOW HEDGEROW LP UPDATE!!! Finally! After several delays, a death in the family and holiday madness I am pleased to announce the YHD 2 lp set is in sight! The covers will be done this week and then the pressing plant will do the vinyl. Speaking of which, after talking with some folks, Steven Wilson and Richard Allen of Delerium among them, I have decided to do the whole run on yellow vinyl! Whilst it does cost more to do so I think it will enhance the statement and vision of this project. At this time I have been told I should have the lps by late February!!! Price is still not set as costs are not final but I think it will be $25. Thanks for your patience in this, it will be worth it! Keith H. (FAA) From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Thu Jan 27 13:05:53 2000 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:05:53 -0500 Subject: in Kiwiland Message-ID: Let's not put the curse on the possible L.A. show already! The last show that they were supposed to play at the Hollywood Troubador was cancelled at the last minute. That was on the Alien 4 tour. They did play a show in San Francisco though. It sure would be great to see them in L.A. They haven'y played here since 1990. Dr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson [SMTP:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 9:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW: in Kiwiland On www.hawkwind.com, Richard Stockwell wrote... >The guys got off the plane describing the trip as seeming to last forever >after a twelve-hour stop-over at LA and then the forced 24 hour stop-over in >Hawaii. Some of the members were not allowed to leave their hotel rooms after >drug charges that go back as far as 1969; seems like 30+ years on, not much has >changed within American law. Ugh. Doesn't look promising for that L.A. show on March 10-11, does it? Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Now if it were Whitney Houston, she'd have no problem. From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jan 27 13:11:24 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:11:24 +0000 Subject: HW: lyrics (&BOC) In-Reply-To: <008a01bf68d5$fa493e10$3a5b32c3@ivision.co.uk> Message-ID: In message <008a01bf68d5$fa493e10$3a5b32c3 at ivision.co.uk>, Kevin Perry writes >And someone here thought that 'A distant hissing in ears' from Sonic Attack >was 'A distant pissing in ears' - she was most offended :-) Didn't mind the bleeding from orifices or the need to vomit, then? -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jan 27 13:10:27 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:10:27 +0000 Subject: HW: lyrics In-Reply-To: <200001271603.LAA17553@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: In message <200001271603.LAA17553 at mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K Henderson writes >Ah, silly me...it was 'Dying Seas' Diocese? Tattooed on the back of the neck, ma'am. -- Jon Vicar Sargeant From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jan 27 13:14:14 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:14:14 +0000 Subject: HW: lyrics In-Reply-To: <997CDAC4BBC5D211BE0B0008C70D298F01201D72@lnnt47.london.entoil.com> Message-ID: In message <997CDAC4BBC5D211BE0B0008C70D298F01201D72 at lnnt47.london.entoi l.com>, Thomas Guy writes >eah - but "Metamorphosed tetraphone", from D-Rider is total bollox, >(speaking as a geologist!) > >Guy T. I always thought it was "metamorphose tetra-clone" myself, whatever that would mean. -- Jon From johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jan 27 13:26:45 2000 From: johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM (Johnny Firich) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:26:45 GMT Subject: BOC: Neil Smith? Message-ID: > I found on Usenet a mention of this fella as a >one-time BOC drummer; anyone got any further info? He's the "N. Smith" who co-wrote "Shadow of California". He's mentioned once or twice in the FAQ. Speaking of tRbN, I posted a question a few days ago - does anyone know what "Shooting shark" means? Guess not. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jan 27 13:36:00 2000 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:36:00 -0000 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: Metamorphose tetrafirm Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Browne To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:14 PM Subject: Re: HW: lyrics > In message <997CDAC4BBC5D211BE0B0008C70D298F01201D72 at lnnt47.london.entoi > l.com>, Thomas Guy writes > >eah - but "Metamorphosed tetraphone", from D-Rider is total bollox, > >(speaking as a geologist!) > > > >Guy T. > > I always thought it was "metamorphose tetra-clone" myself, whatever that > would mean. > -- > Jon From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Thu Jan 27 13:53:44 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:53:44 -0500 Subject: BOC: lyrics (was HW: lyrics) Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Andrew A. Apold To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Thursday, January 27, 2000 12:17 PM Subject: BOC: lyrics (was HW: lyrics) >>> D-Rider isn't one of the ones in the Lyric book is it? Not that the lyric >>> book isn't without its share of errors. >> >>The lyric book is actually quite funny at times because the lyrics are often >>so clearly, completely WRONG! > >One thing I liked from the lyric book of "Extraterrestrial Live" is >that it contains a number of extra lines for 'Black Blade', looking >at them I believe they are things Moorcock wrote, but Eric omitted >from the final version of the song. > >Not extra verses, but like one or two lines from each verse... > >"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random >=============== >Andrew Apold I have accounted for every single word on that lyric sheet. (Except that I think they were taken from the studio version.) The words that you are not hearing are the voice of Stormbringer. If you listen closely enough, you can hear them in the machine- like voice. They are done in the background. RJ From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Jan 27 13:58:43 2000 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:58:43 +0100 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: K Henderson schrieb: > D-Rider isn't one of the ones in the Lyric book is it? Not that the lyric > book isn't without its share of errors. > > Is Andreas still around? Where did you get the lyrics from to do the book? > And are you still working on the calligraphy for a second book and when > should this become reality? Paul W. suggested once that they planned to do > it a couple years ago, right? Yes, I?m still around, but mostly at lurking mode only. An yes, D-Rider isn?t in the lyric book. I had nothing to do with this book at all. It was done by John Coulthart and Nick Randles in 1982 - when I bought my 1st HW record. In 87 I started doing some artwork for Hawkfan (first results in issue 17). Then Brian asked me to do some illustrated lyrics, since the lyric book included not all the lyrics. He sent me some (Standing at the edge in # 18, High Rise in # 20, Wings in # 21, Sword of the East in # 22, Mask of the Morning in # 23, Arrival in Utopia in # 24, Heads in # 26 and The War I survived in # 27 ), for which he spent a lot of time, because he wanted them to be as perfect as possible. For Wings he asked Alan for help, and for Lost Johnny he sent my sheet to Lemmy who corrected it personally - I still have a copy of this. Funnily he didn?t write the words at all, it was Mick Farren. Anyway, I think this will finally see the light of day in one of the next issues - in maybe 5 years or so. I also did Back in the box, Black Elk speaks, Dreaming city, D-Rider, Ejection, Lighthouse, Out of the shadows, The right stuff and Treadmill. But they are all not corrected yet, so I believe this will have to wait for release for some years. A lot of HW lyrics (and BOC ones) can be found in the Mike Moorcock music book Brian put out 2 years ago, all illustrated by me. I believe Brian still has some copies left - buy it straight away while they are still there, folks! It was a limited edition of 750 copies, and it?s a great read. Andreas From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Thu Jan 27 14:01:19 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:01:19 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: LOL- some memory you have there, Jon! I hope you didn't think I was serious! =) RJ -----Original Message----- From: Jon Browne To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Thursday, January 27, 2000 4:12 AM Subject: Re: HW: lyrics >In message <200001260410.XAA07057 at mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K Henderson > writes >>P.S. How many here went through about eight zillion different possibilities >>for 'She said', 'She's dead', 'Caesar,' 'Seizure,' etc. ad infinitim. :) > >RJ pointed out a while back, the lyric is "Cheesehead". >-- >Jon From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Thu Jan 27 14:05:36 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:05:36 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics (&BOC) Message-ID: >'Sea King' / 'Seeking'... > Always thought that was a deliberate thing. Like: 'The Sea King- Has come to him.' 'Seeking- To save him..' Just what I heard... Nothing to back it up. RJ From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Thu Jan 27 14:08:35 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:08:35 -0500 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: >For a long while I thought it was "Is he sane?". Now I've no idea what it really is. I think they change it when we're not >listening properly. Could be, I do believe they change it. I think at one point they are talking about Zarozinia, after Elric kills her worm-form. She's dead. She's dead... But in other tunes, I can hear a third syllable, like you say. S. Hussein.. S Hussein.... RJ From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Jan 27 13:44:05 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:44:05 -0500 Subject: BOC: Neil Smith? Message-ID: >Speaking of tRbN, I posted a question a few days ago - does anyone know what >"Shooting shark" means? I always thought it was a comet... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Jan 27 13:49:55 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:49:55 -0500 Subject: BOC: lyrics (was HW: lyrics) Message-ID: >I have accounted for every single word on that lyric sheet. (Except that I >think they >were taken from the studio version.) The words that you are not hearing are >the voice >of Stormbringer. If you listen closely enough, you can hear them in the >machine- >like voice. They are done in the background. Then shouldn't the lyric sheet include "you poor f---ing humans" at the end? (I guess it is from the studio version found on "Career of Evil", not "Cultosaurus Erectus") "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From clemens at TRAIL.COM Thu Jan 27 14:26:05 2000 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:26:05 -0700 Subject: this is Hawkwind? Message-ID: Detailed Product InformationGot here thru the Glastonbury site-is this an error or what? -Mark This shop is operated by IMVS Ltd for www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk. Purchasers should familiarise themselves with the terms and conditions governing transactions on this site. Detailed Product Information a.. Name : Young+Webster-Big 3. b.. Artist : Hawkwind c.. Label : Sound And Media d.. Catalogue Number : 2610562 e.. Price : ?4.81 f.. 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Mind you, until the Business Trip CD I thought Green Finned Demon featured "the suffering magician" and not the "sub-marine magician"! And on the Urban Guerrilla track from the Live 1979 St Albans recordings, it *still* sounds to me like the boys are: "Lurking on those alleyways Creeping in those sausage bars" And me a vegetarian and everything! From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu Jan 27 14:48:49 2000 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:48:49 EST Subject: BOC: Shooting Shark Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/00 1:28:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM writes: << Speaking of tRbN, I posted a question a few days ago - does anyone know what "Shooting shark" means? >> I seem to remember hearing somewhere that the Shooting Shark refers to the neon sign for a bar of that name...perhaps it's in the FAQ somewhere. SET From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu Jan 27 15:14:20 2000 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:14:20 EST Subject: BOC: Black Blade lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/00 1:56:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, sprawl at STARPOWER.NET writes: << I have accounted for every single word on that lyric sheet. (Except that I think they were taken from the studio version.) The words that you are not hearing are the voice of Stormbringer. If you listen closely enough, you can hear them in the machine- like voice. They are done in the background. RJ >> Actually, there are a lot of lines in the lyrics that came with ETL that do not appear in the song Black Blade, including the Stormbringer section. They are as follows: ----- There are ruins in my past There are ruins in my destiny That there's freedom in my blade And its cosmic song--it goes on too long It's the evilest weapon that ever was made Singing for eternity Death in the Flames The Earth, the Sky, the Sea Doesn't care if I'm willing ---------- The rest of the listed lyrics are parts of the song, but they're all mixed up, scattered, and reorganized. I imagine the lyrics as printed are as Moorcock wrote them, in which case it's interesting to see how BOC took the lyrics and adapted them to the music. Of course, the Hawkwind folks here can probably give us more info on this process. :-) Steven Tice Calliope Comics From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu Jan 27 15:21:43 2000 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:21:43 EST Subject: BOC: Black Blade again Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/00 2:24:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, mordru at FLITE.NET writes: << Then shouldn't the lyric sheet include "you poor f---ing humans" at the end? (I guess it is from the studio version found on "Career of Evil", not "Cultosaurus Erectus") >> It's on both, I believe...I know for sure it's audible on Cultosaurus. But it's not in the lyric sheet...perhaps it was an Eric Bloom ad lib. SET From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Jan 27 15:31:20 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:31:20 GMT Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: Hello Everyone, A couple of songs have had me stumped with their lyrics for quite a while - What is the 'chant' in the middle of 'Reefer Madness'. Lyric books have it down as 'Marijuana is real enough' but it doesn't sound anything like that to me. Also what is the second line in 'Demented Man'. Anyone know? All the best, Mick. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jan 27 15:35:23 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:35:23 -0500 Subject: BOC: Shooting Shark Message-ID: >In a message dated 1/27/00 1:28:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, >johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM writes: > ><< Speaking of tRbN, I posted a question a few days ago - does anyone know >what > "Shooting shark" means? >> > >I seem to remember hearing somewhere that the Shooting Shark refers to the >neon sign for a bar of that name...perhaps it's in the FAQ somewhere. I would imagine a pool hall (and bar also, likely) given the name. Keith H. (FAA) From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Jan 27 15:46:28 2000 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:46:28 -0500 Subject: BOC: Various replies Message-ID: > What annoys me particularly about this is that the calendrical > stupidity has been governmentally-endorsed. I was also sorry to see > Deke > Leonard's hopes for the Millennium Bug (which is a Century Bug as any > fule kno) disappointed (he says heroically throwing a line in the > direction of a list topic). "Century Bug" - so, now the claim is that Y2K is not a new Millennium, but it is a new Century? Um, doesn't the same logic that argues that the next Millennium begins in 2001 also apply to the argument that the next Century begins in 2001 as well? Then again, whereas "millennium" is an arbitrary span of 1000 years, "century" would also be an abitrary span of 100 years. Carry this to the next logical step -- have we or have we not entered a new DECADE this year? Ow, now my head really hurts... > > >>>-A reissue of the "Bad Channels" movie soundtrack, featuring > music by > > Blue Oyster Cult, is due soon. There will be bonus tracks and the > > whole CD will now consist of 30 tracks.<<< I don't know of any "bonus tracks" - I've seen a European import of this recently, which consists of 2 CDs -- the first CD has the 2 BOC tunes plus the 2 from all those other artists; the second CD has the "Bad Channels Soundtrack" score - but, I believe all of this is contained on the original (single CD) release. Perhaps someone who has the 2 CD set can verify... > This thing is already in my CD racks :-) I don't know what's > `bonus' and what's not but aside from the two BOC tracks proper there > is > also about twenty minutes worth of snippets from the actual score of > the > film. Very odd stuff for BOC - sounds in places exactly like > _Firestarter_ by Tangerine Dream except more fragmented and > fitted-to-action- > you-can't-see. Not exactly brilliant music, but a real expansion to my > idea of BOC... Buck Dharma himself did all of the "score" using his guitars and (Macintosh) computer. He basically worked out stuff to fit the mood with the story. I haven't seen the actual movie, but it probably works better with the movie than to listen to these tracks by themselves. > > << I found on Usenet a mention of this fella as a > one-time BOC drummer; anyone got any further info? > === > >> > wasnt this fellow the drummer in the "original" alice cooper? > if that's him, he wasnt in BOC... I do not believe Neil Smith ever played with BOC, but he did play with Joe Bouchard (and Dennis Dunaway) in the band "Deadringer" after Joe left BOC. Actually, I think Joe is working on some new stuff with him. > > Speaking of tRbN, I posted a question a few days ago - does anyone > know what > "Shooting shark" means? > > Guess not. > > I always thought it was a comet... Based on the video for this song, that is what I believe it is as well. John From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Thu Jan 27 15:21:42 2000 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:21:42 -0000 Subject: BOC: Neil Smith? Message-ID: Subject: Re: BOC: Neil Smith? > In a message dated 1/27/00 11:43:48 AM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK > writes: > > << I found on Usenet a mention of this fella as a > one-time BOC drummer; anyone got any further info? > === > >> > wasnt this fellow the drummer in the "original" alice cooper? > if that's him, he wasnt in BOC... NEAL Smith was the original Alice Cooper Group drummer. He also played and wrote on Buck`s Solo album Flat Out and on the BOC-related Deadringer album. Si ---------------------- The Alice Cooper Trivia File: http://village.vossnet.co.uk/s/sihalley/ From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Thu Jan 27 16:18:50 2000 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:18:50 -0600 Subject: OFF: Tape Trade '99 Message-ID: Is this thing still alive? Respectfully curious, Hogard From des at SUPERLINK.NET Thu Jan 27 16:46:53 2000 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:46:53 -0500 Subject: BOC: Neil Smith? Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 1/27/00 11:43:48 AM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK > writes: > > << I found on Usenet a mention of this fella as a > one-time BOC drummer; anyone got any further info? > === > >> > wasnt this fellow the drummer in the "original" alice cooper? > if that's him, he wasnt in BOC... > > "<>" He did play on a couplke of songs on Buck's 'Flat Out' lp. --EF From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Thu Jan 27 16:53:19 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:53:19 EST Subject: BOC: Neil Smith? Message-ID: didn't i read something about the 'alice cooper neal smith' playing with some x-boc-er on john's faq page? if memory serves this would have been after he left alice...; oh i dunno... rmayo From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jan 27 16:59:17 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:59:17 -0000 Subject: OFF: Tape Trade '99 In-Reply-To: <20000127.151852.181.17.james.hogard@juno.com> Message-ID: All I know for sure is that my file with all the addresses, and who sent what where, went to the hard disk in the sky when I had Windows 98 hassles a while ago (I'd backed up the trivial stuff like my current projects and websites, and not the important stuff like the boc-l tape swap - go figure). But we could start Tape Swap '00... -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of James A Hogard > Sent: 27 January 2000 21:19 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: Tape Trade '99 > > > Is this thing still alive? > > Respectfully curious, > > Hogard > From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Thu Jan 27 17:13:41 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:13:41 -0500 Subject: BOC: lyrics (was HW: lyrics) Message-ID: >>I have accounted for every single word on that lyric sheet. (Except that I >>think they >>were taken from the studio version.) The words that you are not hearing are >>the voice >>of Stormbringer. If you listen closely enough, you can hear them in the >>machine- >>like voice. They are done in the background. > >Then shouldn't the lyric sheet include "you poor f---ing humans" at the >end? No, I said that I accounted for the words on the sheet, not the words in the song. But as it turns out, my memory was warped by time, and it also appears that at the time, I was way too quick to take the noises that I couldn't interpret as the words that I couldn't find from the lyrics. My apologies for the mis-information. =( RJ From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Thu Jan 27 17:15:12 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:15:12 -0500 Subject: BOC: Black Blade lyrics Message-ID: Yep. You're right. My apologies for my foolishly relying on my increasingly poor memory. =( RJ >Actually, there are a lot of lines in the lyrics that came with ETL that do >not appear in the song Black Blade, including the Stormbringer section. They >are as follows: > >----- > >There are ruins in my past >There are ruins in my destiny > >That there's freedom in my blade > >And its cosmic song--it goes on too long > >It's the evilest weapon that ever was made > >Singing for eternity > >Death in the Flames >The Earth, the Sky, the Sea > >Doesn't care if I'm willing > >---------- > >The rest of the listed lyrics are parts of the song, but they're all mixed >up, scattered, and reorganized. I imagine the lyrics as printed are as >Moorcock wrote them, in which case it's interesting to see how BOC took the >lyrics and adapted them to the music. Of course, the Hawkwind folks here can >probably give us more info on this process. :-) > >Steven Tice >Calliope Comics From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jan 27 20:40:18 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:40:18 +0000 Subject: OFF: Tape Trade '99 In-Reply-To: <20000127.151852.181.17.james.hogard@juno.com> Message-ID: At 15:18 27.01.2000 -0600, you wrote: >Is this thing still alive? > >Respectfully curious, > >Hogard > Sho' 'nuff - there was a hiccough & loopback somewhere in the chain before me, and then a postal glitch, but I have just received four tapes from Jon Jarrett, which I will forward ASAP: I'll probably get all four duped if I can to minimize the delay! Cheers, ChrisW ObCassette: MC5 - Babes In Arms (?1.99 from the estimable Selectadisc) "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jan 27 20:44:52 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:44:52 +0000 Subject: OFF: Tape Trade '99 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sounds like a good idea. Two administrative notes... on Stuart's web-page for the track lists, the link to mine seems to have vanished; and one of the tapes I just received (alimac's), there's no tracklist with the tape, and Stuart doesn't have Alasdair's name or track listing posted....how about it Alasdair? At 21:59 27.01.2000 -0000, you wrote: >All I know for sure is that my file with all the addresses, and who sent >what where, went to the hard disk in the sky when I had Windows 98 hassles a >while ago (I'd backed up the trivial stuff like my current projects and >websites, and not the important stuff like the boc-l tape swap - go figure). > >But we could start Tape Swap '00... > >-- Andy > >mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >> Behalf Of James A Hogard >> Sent: 27 January 2000 21:19 >> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >> Subject: OFF: Tape Trade '99 >> >> >> Is this thing still alive? >> >> Respectfully curious, >> >> Hogard >> > > > "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Fri Jan 28 00:43:46 2000 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Erebus) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:43:46 -0800 Subject: BOC: Shooting Shark Message-ID: Johnny Firich wrote: > > I found on Usenet a mention of this fella as a > >one-time BOC drummer; anyone got any further info? > > He's the "N. Smith" who co-wrote "Shadow of California". He's mentioned once > or twice in the FAQ. > > Speaking of tRbN, I posted a question a few days ago - does anyone know what > "Shooting shark" means? > > Guess not. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Well in one part of the video Buck is looking skyward, and sees a graphic of what appears to be a comet. I'm thinking it's a comet because it has a tail. He sees this during the "three times I've seen the shooting shark, lighting up the sky" lyric. This might just simple be some idea the producer had, and nothing really pertinent to what a "Shooting Shark" really is, whatever that might be, but valid for this discussion none the less. From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jan 27 14:42:49 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:42:49 -0000 Subject: HW: in Kiwiland Message-ID: > On www.hawkwind.com, Richard Stockwell wrote... > > >The guys got off the plane describing the trip as seeming to last forever > >after a twelve-hour stop-over at LA and then the forced 24 hour stop-over > in >Hawaii. Some of the members were not allowed to leave their hotel rooms > after >drug charges that go back as far as 1969; seems like 30+ years on, > not much has >changed within American law. > > Ugh. Doesn't look promising for that L.A. show on March 10-11, does it? > > Keith H. (FAA) Why this is a problem now when so many US tours have happened in the 1990s? Ian From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Jan 28 03:20:01 2000 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:20:01 +0800 Subject: HW: lyrics In-Reply-To: <12Du7v-1kZ19cC@fwd02.sul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Hi all So the lyrics book is now out. How do I get it? William From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jan 28 03:53:51 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:53:51 -0000 Subject: HW: Update Message-ID: Latest news on Down Under dates... NEW ZEALAND AND AUSTRALIAN TOUR DATES 2000 February 04 - Waihi NZ Beach Hotel February 05 - Auckland NZ- Powerstation NZ February 10 - New Plymouth NZ- Fitzroy Tavern NZ February 11 - Wellington NZ- St. James Cabaret NZ February 12 - Wellington NZ - St. James Cabaret NZ February 18 - Happy Valley Festival AUS February 19 - Happy Valley Festival AUS February 20 - Newcastle AUS Cambridge Tavern February 22 - Byron Bay AUS Great Northern February 24 - Sydney AUS The Metro February 26 - Auckland NZ March 03 - Westport NZ Community Hall NZ March 04 - Nelson NZ- The Artery -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jan 28 05:01:19 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:01:19 EST Subject: Fwd: www.kissthisguy.com Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Timothy J Just" Subject: Re: www.kissthisguy.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:57:52 -0800 Size: 1244 URL: From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jan 28 05:08:16 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:08:16 EST Subject: OFF: Tape Trade '99 Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/00 4:58:49 PM, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: << But we could start Tape Swap '00... >> From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Fri Jan 28 05:11:44 2000 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:11:44 +0100 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: Michael Crook wrote: > > A couple of songs have had me stumped with their lyrics for quite a > while - What is the 'chant' in the >middle of 'Reefer Madness'. > Lyric books have it down as 'Marijuana is real enough' but it doesn't > sound anything like that to me. It sounds like "Canna-ba-na-bis Cannabinol" to me. > Also what is the second line in 'Demented Man'. Anyone know? The lyric book says: "Endless circles on my mind, spiralling a downward climb" and that sounds right to me. ciao D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de From ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO Fri Jan 28 05:28:38 2000 From: ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO (Ketil Svendsen) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:28:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: being sued by nude model Message-ID: well, i guess i'd better tell the story then....even if it's totally off-topic (won't happen again, promise!) there was this calendar ad for fishing gloves(!), and they put a topless model on front of it. so we (the newspaper i'm it boss for) had an article about it. i thought the calendar was really silly, so i made these comments (comics-style, but very innocent text) on it, and mailed it to the people i work with..... kinda funny and we all had a good laugh. now, this big newspaper calls us up and asks if we could send them the original photos per email. so i do that. but do i notice that i also send them the "comics-version" i made for laughs? no sir --- so it got printed in a paper that are being read by 200.000 people. then all the major papers her in norway runs the full story... and now she (the now very angry model) threatens to sue me etc....... in other words: "uh-oh". best, ketil norway who spells lemmy "kilmister" :-) ..and will have a combined lemmy/'wind-page up soon... > > (who is currently getting sued by a nude model. true, > sadly.) > > Fantastic! Tell us more! > aren't ye gonna tell us wazzup w/this now that we've all been TEASED? oh how cruel... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jan 28 06:11:30 2000 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:11:30 -0000 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: Isn't it: Smoking cannabis cannot be wrong? (with strange emphasis on the word cannabis - short a, long a). Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Crook To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 8:31 PM Subject: Re: HW: lyrics > Hello Everyone, > > A couple of songs have had me stumped with their lyrics for quite a while - What is the 'chant' in the middle of 'Reefer Madness'. Lyric books have it down as 'Marijuana is real enough' but it doesn't sound anything like that to me. Also what is the second line in 'Demented Man'. Anyone know? > > All the best, > Mick. > > > > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Jan 27 20:23:10 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:23:10 -0500 Subject: NIK:5.15 & Nik In-Reply-To: <000001bf683b$7376fc00$3524fc3e@ekew.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: At 20.06 +0000 00-01-25, nigel.kew wrote: >Well don't sit on this sort of information tells us lurkers please >where we too can here such groovy tunes! > >Basically is there a MP3 available or must we purchase an Album/Single >and which must we purchase! Perhaps this has already been answered, but as mentioned earlier in this thread "Silver Machine" is the title track of the new CD single from 5:15. I expect the place to order it is http://www.recordheaven.net (if I have that URL right). Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jan 28 06:35:38 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:35:38 EDT Subject: BOC: Shooting Shark In-Reply-To: <38912C92.D7E72116@dlcwest.com> Message-ID: On 27 Jan 00, at 21:43, Erebus wrote: > Johnny Firich wrote: > > > > I found on Usenet a mention of this fella as a > > >one-time BOC drummer; anyone got any further info? > > > > He's the "N. Smith" who co-wrote "Shadow of California". He's > > mentioned once or twice in the FAQ. > > Could it be Neil Smith, originally with Alice Cooper's band? Didn't he play some drums on Club Ninja, or maybe the Imaginos album? Maybe someone else... theo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jan 28 09:00:43 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:00:43 +0000 Subject: BOC: lyrics (was HW: lyrics) In-Reply-To: <200001271628.LAA23007@issfire2.co.palm-beach.fl.us>; from Andrew A. Apold on Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 11:28:26AM -0500 Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 11:28:26AM -0500, Andrew A. Apold wrote: > One thing I liked from the lyric book of "Extraterrestrial Live" is > that it contains a number of extra lines for 'Black Blade', looking > at them I believe they are things Moorcock wrote, but Eric omitted > from the final version of the song. > > Not extra verses, but like one or two lines from each verse... I often wondered about that. Trying to fit them in, it seems to me that there's only one line's space in the appropriate place in the song. Can't make it fit. Do these lyrics perhaps predate the putting-to- music part of the process? Yours, Jon ObCD: On Trial - _New Day Rising_ -- /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | =====================================================================| |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| \______________________________________________________________________/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jan 28 09:18:07 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:18:07 +0000 Subject: BOC: Various replies In-Reply-To: <3890AE70.7185B1C8@mitre.org>; from John A. Swartz on Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 03:46:28PM -0500 Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 03:46:28PM -0500, John A. Swartz wrote: > > What annoys me particularly about this is that the calendrical > > stupidity has been governmentally-endorsed. I was also sorry to see > > Deke > > Leonard's hopes for the Millennium Bug (which is a Century Bug as any > > fule kno) disappointed (he says heroically throwing a line in the > > direction of a list topic). > > "Century Bug" - so, now the claim is that Y2K is not a new Millennium, > but it is a new Century? Um, doesn't the same logic that argues that > the next Millennium begins in 2001 also apply to the argument that the > next Century begins in 2001 as well? Then again, whereas "millennium" > is an arbitrary span of 1000 years, "century" would also be an abitrary > span of 100 years. Carry this to the next logical step -- have we or > have we not entered a new DECADE this year? Now, that's not what I meant, but it's an interesting point. All I meant was that the so-called Millennium Bug would have been a problem in 1900 too had there been electronic clocks at that time, and any other point when a year ended in ..00. So it's not just a thousand-year thing. But decades are different, aren't they, because we think of e.g. the 1930s as a decade, which suggests that decades and centuries start at a different point (and therefore that the first decade AD had only nine years in it). Anyone any thoughts? > Ow, now my head really hurts... > > > > >>>-A reissue of the "Bad Channels" movie soundtrack, featuring > > music by > > > Blue Oyster Cult, is due soon. There will be bonus tracks and the > > > whole CD will now consist of 30 tracks.<<< > > I don't know of any "bonus tracks" - I've seen a European import of this > recently, which consists of 2 CDs -- the first CD has the 2 BOC tunes > plus the 2 from all those other artists; the second CD has the "Bad > Channels Soundtrack" score - but, I believe all of this is contained on > the original (single CD) release. Perhaps someone who has the 2 CD set > can verify... > > > > This thing is already in my CD racks :-) I don't know what's > > `bonus' and what's not but aside from the two BOC tracks proper there > > is > > also about twenty minutes worth of snippets from the actual score of > > the > > film. Very odd stuff for BOC - sounds in places exactly like > > _Firestarter_ by Tangerine Dream except more fragmented and > > fitted-to-action- > > you-can't-see. Not exactly brilliant music, but a real expansion to my > > idea of BOC... > > Buck Dharma himself did all of the "score" using his guitars and > (Macintosh) computer. He basically worked out stuff to fit the mood > with the story. I haven't seen the actual movie, but it probably works > better with the movie than to listen to these tracks by themselves. Yeah, seems so to me. I have the single CD which is definitely a reissue this year; is there a different 2CDversion going round also? My copy credits the score to "Blue Oyster Cult", which I thought was a bit generous given that there's never more than one guitar, electronics and programmed drums in it as far as I can tell. > > << I found on Usenet a mention of this fella as a > > one-time BOC drummer; anyone got any further info? > > === > > >> > > wasnt this fellow the drummer in the "original" alice cooper? > > if that's him, he wasnt in BOC... > > I do not believe Neil Smith ever played with BOC, but he did play with > Joe Bouchard (and Dennis Dunaway) in the band "Deadringer" after Joe > left BOC. Actually, I think Joe is working on some new stuff with him. So, if he co-wrote `Shadow of California', does he play on it? If not, who is drumming on tRbN? My rock discography claims it was Downey, but it's not totally reliable. Can anyone tell me more about Deadringer, also? We want... information... information... information. Yours, Jon -- /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | =====================================================================| |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)| \______________________________________________________________________/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jan 28 09:39:26 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:39:26 -0000 Subject: BOC: Various replies In-Reply-To: <20000128141807.C30494@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: Surely the entire rest of the planet thrashed this out last year... but then we're supposed to be living in the past on this list, aren't we? :)) Anyway, Stephen Jay Gould's QUESTIONING THE MILLENNIUM answers all this stuff in all the detail you could wish for. And you can probably pick it up cheap now. (In fact, Jon, I'll drop you off my copy this weekend if you like. I probably won't be needing it for another thousand years.) Yes, it's Downey credited for drums on THE REVOLUTION BY NIGHT, but there's quite a lot of drum machine going on too, isn;t there? Especially on "Eyes on Fire," if memory serves, but it's such a horrendous song I don't want to check. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jan 28 08:52:30 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:52:30 EDT Subject: BOC: Various replies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 28 Jan 00, at 14:39, Andy Gilham wrote: > Yes, it's Downey credited for drums on THE REVOLUTION BY NIGHT, but > there's quite a lot of drum machine going on too, isn;t there? > Especially on "Eyes on Fire," if memory serves, but it's such a > horrendous song I don't want to check. > Awful lyrics, true, and totally counter to EB's on-stage persona [though perhaps that was a purposeful irony?] but don't discount a very nice gtr solo by BD... theo From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jan 28 10:32:05 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:32:05 -0000 Subject: HW: Five-Fifteen Message-ID: I e-mailed the record company about availability - reply below. Might work out expensive for individual orders so if there's enough demand I'll order a bunch. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham -----Original Message----- From: Mika Myyrylainen [mailto:bluelight.records at co.inet.fi] Sent: 28 January 2000 15:17 To: Andy Gilham Subject: Vs: Five-Fifteen - attn Mika Myyryl?inen Dear Andy, Thank you for your mail and interest to Five Fifteen. You can order the single directly from Bluelight Records at unit price of GPB 4.00, which includes also air mail shipping to UK. Payment in advance, please. No checques, only International Money Order and cash in a registered letter accepted. With best regards, Mika Myyryl?inen Bluelight Records P. O. Box 153, 00171 Helsinki, Finland From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jan 28 10:33:48 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:33:48 -0000 Subject: BOC: Various replies In-Reply-To: <200001281452.JAA12938@syr.edu> Message-ID: > > > Awful lyrics, true, and totally counter to EB's on-stage persona > [though perhaps that was a purposeful irony?] but don't discount a > very nice gtr solo by BD... I'm sure you're right, but it come a few minutes into the song, doesn't it? :) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Fri Jan 28 12:14:20 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:14:20 -0000 Subject: OFF: Tape Trade '99 Message-ID: Odd! Don't know what happened there, I remember receiving your listing. It may have vanished in the great Hard disk failure of 99. Never got one from Alasdair. Am happy to update. Also have a tape waiting to go in the post next week to Gekke. SAH On 28 Jan 00, at 1:44, Chris Warburton wrote: > Sounds like a good idea. Two administrative notes... on Stuart's web-page > for the track lists, the link to mine seems to have vanished; and one of > the tapes I just received (alimac's), there's no tracklist with the tape, > and Stuart doesn't have Alasdair's name or track listing posted....how > about it Alasdair? > > > At 21:59 27.01.2000 -0000, you wrote: > >All I know for sure is that my file with all the addresses, and who sent > >what where, went to the hard disk in the sky when I had Windows 98 > >hassles a while ago (I'd backed up the trivial stuff like my current > >projects and websites, and not the important stuff like the boc-l tape > >swap - go figure). > > > >But we could start Tape Swap '00... > > > >-- Andy > > > >mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > >> Behalf Of James A Hogard Sent: 27 January 2000 21:19 To: Multiple > >> recipients of list BOC-L Subject: OFF: Tape Trade '99 > >> > >> > >> Is this thing still alive? > >> > >> Respectfully curious, > >> > >> Hogard > >> > > > > > > > > "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - > Bierce > Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground E-zine, freezine and online Record Store http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jan 28 12:58:45 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:58:45 -0500 Subject: HW: in Kiwiland In-Reply-To: <000001bf6965$9067d340$34c5883e@oemcomputer>; from ian@ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 07:42:49PM -0000 Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 07:42:49PM -0000, IAN ABRAHAMS wrote: > > Some of [HW's] members were not allowed to leave their hotel rooms > > after drug charges that go back as far as 1969; seems like 30+ years on, > > not much has changed within American law. > > > > Ugh. Doesn't look promising for that L.A. show on March 10-11, does it? > > Why this is a problem now when so many US tours have happened in the 1990s? "Zero tolerance". There are periodic news reports about people being turned back at the Canadian/U.S. border -- and sometimes barred from the U.S. for life -- on no good evidence at all. (These date from well before the recent terrorist scares, btw). In one case, a customs agent found a tiny speck of what he claimed was contraband lodged in the seam of some guy's baseball cap. Worse, in order to steamline the process, there's no appeal. Once a border guard deems you undesirable, it seems, you're beat. (Or so I recall, anyway. There was a rash of stories about this in the press a year or so ago, including the baseball-cap one; my memory may be fuzzy.) There was recently (ie. this month) a Canadian aid worker cooling his heels in a Texas jail. He was driving up from Guatemala, with, as I recall, all papers in order. When he tried to cross into the U.S. from Mexico, a computer search turned up a minor possession conviction from 1978 or so. Because he hadn't volunteered this information to the border guard, he was deemed to be attempting to enter the U.S. under false pretenses. This isn't a new thing, either; it's been a problem all along. At least one North American HW tour was cancelled due to U.S. visa problems (in '93 or '94, wasn't it?). And don't forget that Dave and Ron spent the SD98 Hawkwind(?) concert in Niagara Falls, Ontario, having been denied entry into the U.S. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jan 28 13:23:57 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:23:57 -0500 Subject: BOC: Various replies In-Reply-To: <20000128141807.C30494@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; from jjarrett@CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK on Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 02:18:07PM +0000 Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 02:18:07PM +0000, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > Now, that's not what I meant, but it's an interesting point. All > I meant was that the so-called Millennium Bug would have been a problem > in 1900 too had there been electronic clocks at that time, and any other > point when a year ended in ..00. So it's not just a thousand-year thing. > > But decades are different, aren't they, Well, in the summer of 1980, shortly after I started my first full-time job, I had to do some work on a COBOL program of late-50's or early-60's vintage, which only stored *one* digit of the year. It had a problem every decade. This code already been through either two or three decade rollovers without getting fixed... That was when my eyes first widened, and I went, "man, just think how big a problem there's gonna be at the turn of the century". > because we think of e.g. > the 1930s as a decade, which suggests that decades and centuries start at > a different point (and therefore that the first decade AD had only nine > years in it). Anyone any thoughts? Seems to me I heard the same debate 10 years ago (or 20, or both -- probably 20 now that I think of it, 'cause I was still in school, and it seems like a university kind of discussion somehow). Just not as loud or shrill because turns-of-the-decade aren't as heavily hyped. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Jan 28 12:53:33 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:53:33 -0500 Subject: hoax? Stonehenge getting paved over? Message-ID: Someone passed this along to me, it smelled of a hoax (numerous motive things seem very questionable to me... tho I remember the group that was responsible for stopping Hawkwind from playing there, what about them?), was wondering if anyone over there could confirm or deny this... >Hallo. I found out something today which has horrified me and I want as many >people as possible to know >about it. The Ministry of Department and Industry are intending on turning >the A303 into a dual carriage way by creating what they call a 'cut >and cover' road (??). The A303 is the road that goes to Stonehenge. Their >plans mean the destruction of 5 scheduled monument in the >Stonehenge landscape, including the neolithic long barrow closest to >Stonehenge, a number of bronze age round barrows and a Bronze Age field >system. As the area is a World Heritage site it is an issue which should be >dealt with internationally but the Department of Transport (along with >the Department of the Environment and the MOD) have decared it a LOCAL ISSUE >only and are only consulted people living in the direct >locality. The whole thing is being politically carefully stage managed in >order to receive least publicity and least media attention and least outcry. >I am intending on achieving all of these three aims - I am arranging media >attention and a petition and am ensuring that as many people as >possible know about this. In a few days there will be a link on the home >page that will take you to a site with all of the full details and a >petition. I >would be grateful for all possible support. Please forward this email to all >your friends so we can create as much awareness as possible. Please >email me asap with your view. Thank you. luv Moon. please forward your >replies to sunhorsemoonhorse at hotmail.com "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jan 28 13:42:05 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:42:05 -0500 Subject: OFF: MRML Message-ID: A Guide to MRML The Mind Reading Markup Language (MRML /mur'mul/) is a proprietary extension of the HyperText Markup Language. This document, all MRML tags, and any ideas you come up with while reading this information are the exclusive property of the authors. This is an open specification that will be expanded as mind control technology is refined. MRML tags can be embedded into any regular HTML document. They are completely invisible to all browsers. No one will ever know you are using them. NOTE: MRML is not case sensitive. is equivalent to or . Basic Markup Tags The following MRML tags are used to read the client's mind for certain kinds of thoughts and emotions about the contained text. Brainscan performs a light scan of the client's thoughts which may include perceptions of their current environment. The Brainscan tag is an invaluable tool for establishing a user's identity as it is much more reliable than checking REMOTE_HOST or USER_ID variables. Thoughtsuck performs of deeper scan of the client's thoughts which may included details of significant events within the past 24 hours. subject Probes the client's mind for their fears about the contained subject. subject Probes the client's mind for their deeper, more repressed fears about the contained subject. subject Probes the client's mind for their deepest, most repressed fears about the contained subject. WARNING: This tag cannot be exported outside the US borders. subject Probes the client's mind for sexual thoughts about the contained subject. Use of the Sexthoughts tag will likely be deprecated with the release of the Freud and Jung specifications. Freud and Jung Tags Specifications for Freudian id, ego, and superego tags and Jungian symbolic tags are not currently available. The HYPNOTIZE Tag Current technology enables very primitive mind control using MRML tags. The so-called Brainwashing tags are delimited by the special pair. Suggestions within the Hypnotize area are completely invisible to all clients, but it is extremely important that the tags are placed correctly. You are liable for any mental damages inflicted by improperly placed tags. HYPNOTIZE Area Tags Within the area the following tags may be used: text Used for mild, easily acceptable suggestions. For stronger suggestions use PROGRAM and BELIEVE. Some examples: It is warm for this time of year. You need to upgrade your computer. Republican policies aren't all that bad. text Information that you want the client to pass on to friends and correspondents. Some popular memes: Chain letters Urban legends Cool ascii graphics text Things you want the client to forget. It may be desirable to have the client forget the URL of your MRML documents. text Programs the client with a strong post-hypnotic suggestion. There are a few optional arguments. will trigger the suggestions three times at a one hour interval two days hence. could trigger the suggestion brush your teeth for an indefinite time. Within the area the following tags may be used: text Explicit thoughts to be planted in the client's mind. Beware of contradictory programming! Try to remove previous conceptions before reprogramming. To reprogram someone that thinks that Pepsi is better than Coke: 1.You have no opinions about the relationship between Coke and Pepsi. 2.Coke is better than Pepsi. 3.You are thirsty. Encourages the client to buy products on the World Wide Web. The optional ITEM=item argument may be used. A convenient way to access the client's mind for future programming sessions. Should only be used with a secure client-server connection. Clarification: The BLINK Tag The tag used in many popular browsers is not a MRML specified tag. Running Your Own MRML Server The software needed to run a MRML-oriented server is freely available to all persons and institutions. To obtain a copy of the server software a representative for you or your company must attend a special 3-day training session where they will be given the MRML software package. These training sessions are currently being held twice a month at an undisclosed location; requests for private training sessions will be considered. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Fri Jan 28 14:27:48 2000 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:27:48 -0000 Subject: OFF: Tape Trade '99 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000128014452.00839140@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: Hi Chris I don't seem to have a track listing or a copy of the tape I sent out. If I'm thinking of the correct tape, it began with some Steptoe & Son into Spastic by Plastikman, and ended with James Last's Silver Machine. Other than a Tack>>Head tune and the probability of some Ian Pooley, and the *possibility* of some Jeff Mills, I can't recall what would be on the tape. Some funky techno-disco, that's about as much as I remember. Sorry. Is this thing still alive? Well, I think I received 2 tapes, which was about 1 more than I received in the previous trade. Alasdair On 28 Jan 00, at 1:44, Chris Warburton wrote: > Sounds like a good idea. Two administrative notes... on Stuart's > web-page for the track lists, the link to mine seems to have vanished; > and one of the tapes I just received (alimac's), there's no tracklist > with the tape, and Stuart doesn't have Alasdair's name or track > listing posted....how about it Alasdair? > > > At 21:59 27.01.2000 -0000, you wrote: > >All I know for sure is that my file with all the addresses, and who > >sent what where, went to the hard disk in the sky when I had Windows > >98 hassles a while ago (I'd backed up the trivial stuff like my > >current projects and websites, and not the important stuff like the > >boc-l tape swap - go figure). > > > >But we could start Tape Swap '00... > > > >-- Andy > > > >mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; > >http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of James A Hogard Sent: 27 > >> January 2000 21:19 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: > >> OFF: Tape Trade '99 > >> > >> > >> Is this thing still alive? > >> > >> Respectfully curious, > >> > >> Hogard > >> > > > > > > > > "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a > coffin" - Bierce > -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jan 28 14:42:24 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:42:24 -0000 Subject: hoax? Stonehenge getting paved over? In-Reply-To: <200001281753.MAA14380@issfire2.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: Have a look at http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~ait/masterplan.html for more info. "Paving it over" is going a bit over the top, though there are controversial aspects to what English Heritage are planning. Dunno meself, really. The A303 is too close and something needs doing, but I don't know what. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Andrew A. Apold > Sent: 28 January 2000 17:54 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: hoax? Stonehenge getting paved over? > > > Someone passed this along to me, it smelled of a hoax (numerous motive > things seem very questionable to me... tho I remember the group that > was responsible for stopping Hawkwind from playing there, what about > them?), was wondering if anyone over there could confirm or deny this... > > > > >Hallo. I found out something today which has horrified me and I > want as many > >people as possible to know > >about it. The Ministry of Department and Industry are intending > on turning > >the A303 into a dual carriage way by creating what they call a 'cut > >and cover' road (??). The A303 is the road that goes to Stonehenge. Their > >plans mean the destruction of 5 scheduled monument in the > >Stonehenge landscape, including the neolithic long barrow closest to > >Stonehenge, a number of bronze age round barrows and a Bronze Age field > >system. As the area is a World Heritage site it is an issue > which should be > >dealt with internationally but the Department of Transport (along with > >the Department of the Environment and the MOD) have decared it a > LOCAL ISSUE > >only and are only consulted people living in the direct > >locality. The whole thing is being politically carefully stage managed in > >order to receive least publicity and least media attention and > least outcry. > >I am intending on achieving all of these three aims - I am > arranging media > >attention and a petition and am ensuring that as many people as > >possible know about this. In a few days there will be a link on the home > >page that will take you to a site with all of the full details and a > >petition. I > >would be grateful for all possible support. Please forward this > email to all > >your friends so we can create as much awareness as possible. Please > >email me asap with your view. Thank you. luv Moon. please forward your > >replies to sunhorsemoonhorse at hotmail.com > "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random > =============== > Andrew Apold > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Jan 28 15:06:06 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:06:06 -0800 Subject: OFF: Can anyone help? Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:47:33 -0500, K Henderson wrote: >Discoveries (also published by the Goldmine people I think) Funny, I had always assumed this, too, but it appears that the two magazines do not share common ownership, only a remarkably similar format/coverage/layout/viewpoint/etc. A lot closer than Time and Newsweek, for instance! >P.P.S. I checked out one recent issue of Alt. Press in the store today, and >while not finding any of these reviewed, they had a nice review (4 out of 5) >of Primordial Undermind's latest (w/ Doug 'Ceres' Pearson). So, where's >Eric gone off to *this* time, Doug? Back to Boston? Thanks for the tip! AP is usually a bit too mainstream for me to peruse, but I'll have to check out that issue. Eric's academic career has most recently taken him to the University of Texas in Austin. I expect that he should have no problem recruiting a bunch of psych/space rockers in that town for a new Primordial Undermind lineup. I've already got other stuff to be busy with ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Jan 28 15:07:27 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:07:27 GMT Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: Denis wrote: >The lyric book says: "Endless circles on my mind, spiralling a downward climb" >and that sounds right to me. Thanks, but I meant the bit that comes just before that,and just after 'Questions asked but never known' Cheers Mick. > -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Fri Jan 28 15:22:39 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:22:39 -0600 Subject: OFF: Tape Trade '99 Message-ID: > Is this thing still alive? Well, I think I received 2 tapes, which was > about 1 more than I received in the previous trade. > I think I received 2 or 3, but nothing for the last 5 months. I'd kinda figured it was done with. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Jan 28 15:25:08 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:25:08 GMT Subject: HW Glastonbury Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Hawkwind 477 votes making them NUMBER 1 at the moment (Radiohead 462). I bet the organisers are doing some head scratching! Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Fri Jan 28 15:48:59 2000 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:48:59 +0100 Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: Michael Crook wrote: > > Denis wrote: > >The lyric book says: > "Endless circles on my mind, spiralling a downward climb" > >and that sounds right to me. > > Thanks, but I meant the bit that comes just before that,and just > after 'Questions asked but never known' Do you mean: "Really governs which way I'll go" ? cu D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Jan 28 15:49:06 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:49:06 EST Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 1/28/00 12:18:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, m.j.crook at TALK21.COM writes: > Thanks, but I meant the bit that comes just before that,and just after ' > Questions asked but never known' > > Cheers > Mick. > > What I recall from a booklet that FOFP sent me a long time ago: "Only God knows which way you'll go", though I think fans put this together, so I don't think it's official... Chuck From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jan 28 15:45:15 2000 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:45:15 -0000 Subject: HW lyrics Message-ID: Did my Right to Decide lyrics post ever arrive on the list? I didn't see it but was having some mail weirdness earlier today - I can repost if it didn't. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK Fri Jan 28 18:03:25 2000 From: g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK (g.m.wright) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:03:25 -0000 Subject: lyrics Message-ID: Hi, has anyone got the lyrics to Stonehenge Decoded, I'll be buggered if I can decode them.It'll be interesting to see how many different versions people can come up with. Cheers Geoff geoff wright g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 28 19:47:47 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:47:47 -0000 Subject: Off: enow and more Message-ID: This is in response to a message that failed to go last time because my machine crashed catastrophically! It is also by way of a test since I'm using a different system so if anything doesn't come through properly then apologies in advance! Somebody was asking about the word "enow" It is, as they suggested, similar to "enough" but it's old slang rather than a modern form. Probably best recognised from Edward Fitzgerald's 'Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam' "a flask of Wine, a book of verse - and thou beside me singing in the Wilderness and Wilderness is Paradise enow". In the dictionary it says it is an archaic form and originally meant the plural of enough (not sure I understand that!) . However there is also a Scottish form that means "a moment ago" or "presently" and comes from "even now". Actually I suspect that the latter definition may be closer to Fitzgerald's intention (i.e. this is sufficient Paradise for now) than to a meaning of enough but both work in this context so........ Just in case anyone is remotely interested - and to prove that my machine is working again! cheers jill From m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK Sat Jan 29 08:16:47 2000 From: m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:16:47 +0000 Subject: HW: Croydon 99 photos Message-ID: Dear peeps, I have finally got around to scanning in my best photos from the Croydon gig last year. They are to be found at http://www.rdg.ac.uk/AcaDepts/kc/nhe/crydn.htm If anyone wants a copy or two then let me know, cos I've got some spares. You'll also get some of the more blurred ones as well, cos I've got to get rid of them somehow. If you do want a copy then let me know which one(s) you particularly like and I'll do my best to accommodate everyone. Mike From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sat Jan 29 21:10:56 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:10:56 -0500 Subject: BOC: Dont fear the best of, be petrified? Message-ID: Track list according to Amazon.com 1. Cities On Flame With Rock And Roll 2. Red And The Black, The 3. Flaming Telepaths 4. Astronomy 5. This Ain't The Summer Of Love 6. Reaper, (Don't Fear) The 7. I Love The Night 8. Goin' Through The Motions [if this was really chosen by fans...(shudder)] 9. Godzilla 10. In Thee 11. Marshall Plan, The 12. Black Blade 13. Joan Crawford 14. Burnin' For You 15. Shooting Shark 16. Take Me Away Well there ya go. Oh well, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 30 12:41:42 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:41:42 -0000 Subject: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Message-ID: Motorhead list - where's that then Dave -----Original Message----- From: DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 27 January 2000 17:26 Subject: Re: OFF OS:: Mowturhed Don't go there:-( I mentioned this over on the Motorhead list and got savaged in a private e-mail, which went on at great length about Lemmys family background, problems with stepfathers etc, and damned me to eternal Hell for raking it up again. Yours from Eternal Hell, Stuart NP Cro-Mags - Alpha-Omega On 27 Jan 00, at 9:57, Richard Lockwood wrote: > You've got the Sam Gopal album?! Can you let me know where you live, and > when the house is likely to be empty? ;-) > > I'm afraid I haven't got a bastard clue Magnus. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ObAlbum: Ambrose Slade - Beginnings > > > > > >I'm fairly sure that it's printed as 'Kilminster' on quite a lot of > > >album covers / labels / credits. > > > > I'm certain of this too, and will fully confess - GUILTY AS CHARGED! > > (but at least I wasn't the first!) > > > > >But it *is* Kilmister. > > > > Yes. So can anyone explain why it's listed as "Willis" on the Sam Gopal > > album?!?!? That's not even close! > > > > -Doug > > ceres at sirius.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground E-zine, freezine and online Record Store http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sun Jan 30 15:23:43 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:23:43 GMT Subject: HW: lyrics Message-ID: > Michael Crook wrote: > > Denis wrote: > >The lyric book says: > "Endless circles on my mind, spiralling a downward climb" > >and that sounds right to me. > > Thanks, but I meant the bit that comes just before that,and just > after 'Questions asked but never known' > >Do you mean: "Really governs which way I'll go" ? Yeah, that's the bit I was looking for, Thanks Mick. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 31 05:36:15 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:36:15 GMT Subject: hoax? Stonehenge getting paved over? In-Reply-To: Andrew A. Apold's message of Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:53:33 -0500 Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold writes: > Someone passed this along to me, it smelled of a hoax (numerous motive > things seem very questionable to me... tho I remember the group that > was responsible for stopping Hawkwind from playing there, what about > them?), was wondering if anyone over there could confirm or deny this... It's true. The plan is for the A303 to be converted to a tunnel in the Stonehenge area so that it can be grassed over on the surface and cause less visual disturbance to the area. If the complete plans are implemented the Visitor Centre and car park will be removed from its site adjacent to the stones and moved up towards Devizes around roughly where the main stage was at Stonehenge in 1981 (about a mile and a half from Stonehenge). Visitors to the stones will be invited to walk from there and visit the stones in something closer to their original wild setting. Cross country carts will be available to transport the disabled. It's unclear whether the paths around the stones, and more to the point, the barbed wire, will be removed. There's also talk about building, in concert with a private company, a multimedia visitor centre, and fibreglass replica of stonehenge in its original intended form, five or ten miles from Stonehenge. The plan has been running around Whitehall for about 15 years and looks finally to be implemented in some form. > Andrew Apold FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 31 05:37:56 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:37:56 GMT Subject: HW Glastonbury In-Reply-To: Michael Crook's message of Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:25:08 GMT Message-ID: Michael Crook writes: > Hello Everyone, > Hawkwind 477 votes making them NUMBER 1 at the moment (Radiohead 462). > I bet the organisers are doing some head scratching! I think it's perfectly natural to have Hawkwind at number one. They were one of the first bands to play at Glastonbury. > Mick FoFP From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jan 31 06:41:34 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:41:34 +0000 Subject: HW Comic show yesterday In-Reply-To: <200001311037.KAA08125@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Did anyone go? Did Ron show up? I was at Olympia checking out this years giant robots, and couldn't get away. -- Jon From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Mon Jan 31 09:48:23 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:48:23 -0500 Subject: BOC/OFF: Meltzer publishing news. Message-ID: from Amazon.com: A Whore Just Like the Rest: The Music Writings of Richard Meltzer by Richard Meltzer Our Price: $16.00 Paperback - 425 pages (May 2000) Da Capo Pr; ISBN: 0306809532 Book Description A Da Capo original: Thirty years' worth of music writing by one of the first and greatest rock scribes and a fiercely imaginative cultural critic He is one of the inventors of rock criticism. His first book, The Aesthetics of Rock (acclaimed by Greil Marcus as "a disemboweling of rock's soft white underbelly"), became an instant cult classic when published in 1970. And for the next thirty years he fearlessly expanded the boundaries of music writing. Now he has collected the best of his prodigious output into a gonzo sampler of the reviews, profiles, interviews, and essays that form the heart of his rockwriter legacy. Traveling from psychedelia to the "dinosaur-rot early '70s" to the redeeming majesty of punk and the constant solace of jazz, this will stand as a remarkable document of an era by a singular voice in music writing. >From A Whore Just Like the Rest: "Well, for starters, I invented this shit. Rock writing. I was first. Well maybe not literal first, just one of the first two-three-four, probably the first to take the ball and actually run with it; certainly the sole early manjack you're still reading now. Before Lester Bangs was, I am (and he's dead). Which, heck, I dangle as neither credit nor debit -just my way of saying hi." He lives in Portland, Oregon where he is currently vocalist for the band Smegma. kick out the jams! Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I'm in a FOUL mood today. Stay outa my way or I'll CRITIQUE YOUR ASS to hell. Just ME, just YOU...a decent song. You wanna see THEM, see THEM. I don't give a ****." - Richard Meltzer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Mon Jan 31 10:10:32 2000 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:10:32 +0000 Subject: BOC: Various replies In-Reply-To: <3890AE70.7185B1C8@mitre.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, John A. Swartz wrote: > Um, doesn't the same logic that argues that > the next Millennium begins in 2001 also apply to the argument that the > next Century begins in 2001 as well? Then again, whereas "millennium" > is an arbitrary span of 1000 years, "century" would also be an abitrary > span of 100 years. Carry this to the next logical step -- have we or > have we not entered a new DECADE this year? > > Ow, now my head really hurts... OK, the first year of the Xtian era has to be year 1. Therefore: The first decade was years 1 to 10 The first century was years 1 to 100 The 20th century is years 1901 to 2000 The first millennium was years 1 to 1000 The second millennium is years 1001 to 2000 The third millennium will be years 2001 to 3000 But you can count decades beginning in any year that you like, and it is convenient to consider 1980-1989 as "the eighties", or 1990-1999 as "the nineties". We've certainly left the nineties behind, but we are still in the 20th century of the second millennium. - Mike Godwin From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jan 31 12:19:33 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:19:33 -0500 Subject: Off: enow and more In-Reply-To: <01eb01bf69f2$769bfe40$3231883e@jds>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Sat, Jan 29, 2000 at 12:47:47AM -0000 Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 29, 2000 at 12:47:47AM -0000, Jill Strobridge wrote: > In the dictionary it says [enow] is an archaic form and originally meant the > plural of enough (not sure I understand that!) . Enough wine; enow grapes? > Just in case anyone is remotely interested - and to prove that my > machine is working again! Yup, and yup. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jan 31 12:46:15 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:46:15 -0500 Subject: HW: March L.A. show seems to be off-again :-( Message-ID: Apologies if this is old news -- and, at 11 days old, it may even be out of date -- but for what it's worth, here's the bad news from the Strange Trips news page : > It has been decided by Dave Brock (as of Janurary 20, 2000) that > Hawkwind WILL NOT be doing a US Tour in March on their way home > from the New Zealand and Australian Tours. Although they would > have liked to do so (and Strange Trips was standing by ready to > spring into action) there just wasn't enough time to make all of > the many arrangements involved. > > Although the US fans will be sorely disappointed by this news, it > does have an upside to it! This will make a summer HAWKWIND 2000 > US Tour or an appearance at the Strange Daze 2000 SpaceRock > Festival a distinct possibility. We will be working towards this > goal! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Mon Jan 31 13:04:25 2000 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:04:25 -0600 Subject: HW - New CD from Griffin Message-ID: New Griffin CD coming out Mid- February. Called " Thrilling Stories". Kollectors Tip of the Week: Look behind your Jewel Case Trays. Some have flat backs, and some have a raised circle around the edge. The ones with the circle on the back can have a tendency to press up with great pressure against the back cover art, causing a faint circle to appear through the Jewel case. You may have to view the back of your Jewel Cases at a certain angle to see it. Hawkman From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jan 31 13:10:33 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:10:33 -0500 Subject: HW: March L.A. show Message-ID: Eric S. said... >Apologies if this is old news -- and, at 11 days old, it may even >be out of date -- but for what it's worth, here's the bad news >from the Strange Trips news page : I'm not sure this posting was talking about the LA show necessarily. I think there was an idea to tack on a US tour of some length after the NZ/OZ shows. But then I guess their airline tickets were already purchased and couldn't be easily changed, so that they *had* to 'leave' the US from LAX. Which put the kibosh on any overland trips far away from So. California. Given the problems they had with US INS already during the layover, I doubt it would be easy to get out of LA anyhow. (I hope this isn't a problem that continues to haunt them (and us)!) Of course, Jim is with the band and so I think he wrote this before leaving to meet up with them in LA, and so this would have been before the problems with the US officials there at the airport (i.e., not allowed to leave hotel). So I think the possibility of the LA show would have more to do with that situation rather than what Jim was originally writing about, as below. >> It has been decided by Dave Brock (as of Janurary 20, 2000) that >> Hawkwind WILL NOT be doing a US Tour in March on their way home >> from the New Zealand and Australian Tours. Although they would >> have liked to do so (and Strange Trips was standing by ready to >> spring into action) there just wasn't enough time to make all of >> the many arrangements involved. >> >> Although the US fans will be sorely disappointed by this news, it >> does have an upside to it! This will make a summer HAWKWIND 2000 >> US Tour or an appearance at the Strange Daze 2000 SpaceRock >> Festival a distinct possibility. We will be working towards this >> goal! Keith H. (FAA) P.S. I guess Ron wasn't the only problem! I can't imagine what our government is so afraid of! Surely, HW is no longer corrupting young minds! And we're already too far gone to save. :) P.P.S. I believe the tentative date for SD'2K is August 11-13 at the Ledges (combined with the North Coast NORML Freedom Festival?), with the backup plan being the previous weekend. Don't quote me on that, but if you need to start making early plans... From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jan 31 13:17:59 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:17:59 -0500 Subject: HW - New CD from Griffin Message-ID: Stephan proclaimed... >New Griffin CD coming out Mid- February. >Called "Thrilling Stories". Yeah, but what IS it??? I sent off an e-mail to the old GrifMus addy, but haven't received a reply. And their website hasn't been updated since the original Chapter 9 declaration or whatever. How 'alive' is Griffin anyway...any other new releases other than IYA and this one? Oh, and what exactly is this 'Astral Mind Games' CD I saw listed as a new Cleopatra release? (Their website is also very behind.) Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Whatever happened to that HW Family Tree CD that was supposed to surface? I thought that was another Voiceprint release-to-be, but perhaps that's what this Griffin one might be? From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Mon Jan 31 13:40:09 2000 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:40:09 -0500 Subject: HW: March L.A. show Message-ID: Well, if the Los Angeles show doesn't happen, I'd certainly like to meet the band if they have a stop over at LAX. I work ? mile away from LAX and live near by. It certainly would be great if HW appears at SD 2000!!! -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson [SMTP:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 10:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW: March L.A. show Eric S. said... >Apologies if this is old news -- and, at 11 days old, it may even >be out of date -- but for what it's worth, here's the bad news >from the Strange Trips news page : I'm not sure this posting was talking about the LA show necessarily. I think there was an idea to tack on a US tour of some length after the NZ/OZ shows. But then I guess their airline tickets were already purchased and couldn't be easily changed, so that they *had* to 'leave' the US from LAX. Which put the kibosh on any overland trips far away from So. California. Given the problems they had with US INS already during the layover, I doubt it would be easy to get out of LA anyhow. (I hope this isn't a problem that continues to haunt them (and us)!) Of course, Jim is with the band and so I think he wrote this before leaving to meet up with them in LA, and so this would have been before the problems with the US officials there at the airport (i.e., not allowed to leave hotel). So I think the possibility of the LA show would have more to do with that situation rather than what Jim was originally writing about, as below. >> It has been decided by Dave Brock (as of Janurary 20, 2000) that >> Hawkwind WILL NOT be doing a US Tour in March on their way home >> from the New Zealand and Australian Tours. Although they would >> have liked to do so (and Strange Trips was standing by ready to >> spring into action) there just wasn't enough time to make all of >> the many arrangements involved. >> >> Although the US fans will be sorely disappointed by this news, it >> does have an upside to it! This will make a summer HAWKWIND 2000 >> US Tour or an appearance at the Strange Daze 2000 SpaceRock >> Festival a distinct possibility. We will be working towards this >> goal! Keith H. (FAA) P.S. I guess Ron wasn't the only problem! I can't imagine what our government is so afraid of! Surely, HW is no longer corrupting young minds! And we're already too far gone to save. :) P.P.S. I believe the tentative date for SD'2K is August 11-13 at the Ledges (combined with the North Coast NORML Freedom Festival?), with the backup plan being the previous weekend. Don't quote me on that, but if you need to start making early plans... From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Mon Jan 31 14:30:24 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:30:24 -0600 Subject: Off: Skye Klad Message-ID: Skye Klad perform this Friday at the 7th Street Entry in Minneapolis, MN. This will be the 6th and final Solarium performance. Also, Skye Klad just recorded an album set for release June 2000 on the Camera Obscura label. That is all. From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jan 31 14:38:19 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:38:19 -0000 Subject: HW Comic show yesterday Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Jon Browne To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 31 January 2000 11:44 Subject: HW Comic show yesterday >Did anyone go? > >Did Ron show up? > >I was at Olympia checking out this years giant robots, and couldn't get >away. >-- >Jon Yeah, Trev was there (of course) and Steve Hibbert. No Ron or Rizz tho'. An artist called Peter Pracownik was there who was flogging rather nice HW prints of his (one design, I think they may have been on sale at Croydon). It was claimed by his wife, girlfriend or whatever, that it was going to be the new album cover, which is apparently in the hands of EMI....Whatever, its a very nice design. Nick From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jan 31 15:02:43 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:02:43 -0500 Subject: HW Comic show yesterday In-Reply-To: <001001bf6c22$bb9a4240$6c46a8c2@xpnwjjkf>; from nick.lee2@VIRGIN.NET on Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 07:38:19PM -0000 Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 07:38:19PM -0000, Nick Lee wrote: > An artist called Peter Pracownik was there who was flogging > rather nice HW prints of his [...] It was claimed [...] that it > was going to be the new album cover, which is apparently in the > hands of EMI.... In other words, AOL. Yikes! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Microsoft Lego would have square pips. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Jan 31 21:35:49 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:35:49 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 1/29/00 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINAMP : 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. 1/29/00 (cut to 2 hours) 1.Sky Cries Mary--Shipwrecked (This Timeless Turning) 2.Charalambides--Pieta --Magnus --Gypsy Woman (Historic Sixth Ward) 3.Dark Star--Graceadelica (single; homemade comp ) 4.Sex With Lurch--Preying Pantis (Sex w/Lurch; Saints and Sorcerors III comp) 5.G.O.R.--Ombre (Saints and Sorcerors III comp) 6.Bondage Fruit--Minus One (IV; thanks to Musea) 7.Escapade--Moving in Limbo (Inner Transluscence; thanks to Hadley) 8.Nebula Trip--Causes of Riots (Birth) 9.Sundial--Visitation (Other Way Out) 10.Josh Abrahams--Marakesh (Amberdelic Space vol. 2 comp) 11.Orb--Earth (Gaia) (Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld) 12.Amanita--A Tragedy (The 3rd Ear) 13.Spirits Burning--Arcturus 14. " " --Beautiful Stealth, in a Church (New World's By Design; thanks to Don Falcone and Musea) 15.Spacious Mind--The One That Really One the War (Organic Mind Solution) 16.Hawkwind--High Rise (PXR5 CD) 17. " --P.X.R.5 ( " ) Thanks, Chuck From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jan 31 21:49:37 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:49:37 -0500 Subject: OFF: Unlimbo review Message-ID: Somebody here was interested in my thoughts on this...went ahead and conjured up this tentative review FWIW...Keith H. (FAA) Unlimbo - Prahna Fish (1998) Polygraph (UK) Poly #03 Unlike the Delerium lot, Unlimbo is a 'free-festy' style psychedelic band that stayed the course and have not dived full-bore into electronica mode. I guess that's why they haven't been signed on to Delerium, instead releasing this third effort (following a 3-track EP and a 9-track live CD...could they be Poly #01 and #02?) on (I'm guessing) their own independent label. That said, the seven-member unit does claim multiple hands on synths, samples, decks, and various forms of percussion. But "Drum & Bass" doesn't come to mind. Rather, from the very opening of "Nahton," the words "Ozric" & "Tentacle" are conjured up instead. Circa 1990 Ozrics, that is. Prahna Fish's seven tracks add up to almost 50 minutes, and so Unlimbo likes to play around with each idea for about 6-8 minutes or so, relying on the usual smattering of reggae/dub rhythms and eastern flavors. In lieu of any 'lyrical' vocals, the band employ lots of spoken-word voice samples from numerous sources (Captain Kirk and Bones make an appearance), including more than a few drug-related passages. For example, in the midst of the wonderfully dreamy title track, we hear "You don't have to do anything now but hallucinate...I'll come back for you later." Shortly thereafter, Gundula Grun's violin and Chris Muggeridge's synths dance amongst themselves over an active bassline and punctuated beat, the resemblance to Hawkwind's Palace Springs almost too uncanny. "Spellbound" is one of the more evolved tracks, practically a medley of many different themes with shifting focus (guitar to bass to synth) presented at intervals of thirty seconds or so. Very nice. The album finishes off with "Inertia," yet another eight-minute space-reggae tune that recalls any Ozrics or Dead Flowers tune you care to mention...but at least it's a good one. Unlimbo does have a few of their own tricks up their collective sleeves. Early in the album, "Flinch" is only classifiable as a 'hoedown dub,' Grun's violin more aptly termed 'fiddle.' And then the reggae stylings of "Bagdub" are less like the Ozrics' version than the Police's take on things. A much freakier version of the Police, no doubt, and a nice guitar solo to boot. 'Prahna Fish' hardly treads upon virgin ground, but yet I still feel it deserves high praise. The Ozrics spawned a whole slew of copy-cats, some of which turned out to be superior to this listener's ears (the aforementioned Dead Flowers and Ship of Fools, for example). David Hands' guitar work is notably less prevalent than Ed Wynne's contribution to any given OT disc, but the clever use of sampled voices, lots of extra-spacey synths, and violin and didgeridoo fill any suspected void quite satisfactorily. I can't predict how long Unlimbo can stay 'relevant' in the neo-psychedelic world in this guise, but given their strong musicianship, capable song-writing, and high freakiness factor, future albums aren't likely to be stinkers at least. On the web, www.unlimbo.com (though there's hardly anything there, at least that my browser can access). From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jan 31 22:27:38 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:27:38 -0500 Subject: OFF: Spirit Caravan tour Message-ID: Hi Folks... Haven't heard these folks personally, but I gather they're one of the better 'stoner rock' bands out there in space. A local store has a five-song CD-EP I've been eying lately, called 'Dreamwheel.' Suppose I should pick it up if I decide to head up to Cleveland to check 'em out. Anybody heard this thing? Should I track down Jug Fulla Sun instead? Keith H. (FAA) SPIRIT CARAVAN US TOUR... Friday 2/18/00 Long Branch, NJ Brighton Bar, 121 Brighton Ave. all ages/call for more info: 732-222-9684 Thursday 2/17/00 Philadelphia, PA 4040 Club, 4040 Locust St Doors 8:30pm (set time 11pm), $7, all ages Wednesday 2/16/00 Pittsburgh PA 31st St. Pub, 3101 Penn. Ave Doors 10pm, $5, 21+ Tuesday 2/15/00 Youngstown OH Nyabinghi, 1229 Salt Springs Road Doors 9pm (Set time: 11:00pm), $5, 18+ Monday 2/14/00 Cleveland OH Euclid Tavern, 4634 East 10th St Doors 8pm (Set time: 11:30pm), $6, 18+ Sunday 2/13/00 Indianapolis IN Emerson Theatre, 4634 East 10th St Doors 7pm, $7, All ages Friday 2/11/00 Salina KS The Mill, 1056 E. Pacific St Doors 9pm, $4, 18+ Thursday 2/10/00 Wichita, KS The Jam Room, 3803 W. Maple Doors 8pm, $8, 21+ Tuesday 2/08/00 Arlington, TX The Sanctuary, 428 E. Lamar Doors 8pm (set time 12am), $8, 18+ Monday 2/07/00 Austin, TX Emo's, 603 Red River Doors 8pm, $7, under 21 / $3, 21+ Sunday 2/06/00 New Orleans, LA Dixie Tavern, 3340 Canal St. Doors 10pm, $5, all ages Thursday 2/03/00 Chapel Hill NC Local 506, 506 W. Franklin St. Doors 9pm, $5, 18+ Wednesday 2/02/00 Richmond, VA Alleycatz, 10 Walnut Alley 9pm, $5 18+, w/ Alabama Thunderpussy From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jan 31 13:50:56 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:50:56 -0000 Subject: HW: Right To Decide Message-ID: Kevin, any chance you are going to post up your "take" on the lyrics for "Right to Decide" please? Ian Abrahams ian at abrahamsi.freeserve.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 31 15:58:21 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:58:21 +0000 Subject: HW: Croydon 99 photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ooo, very nice. Thanks. Dave. At 13:16 29/01/00 , you wrote: >Dear peeps, > >I have finally got around to scanning in my best photos from the Croydon >gig last year. They are to be found at > >http://www.rdg.ac.uk/AcaDepts/kc/nhe/crydn.htm > >If anyone wants a copy or two then let me know, cos I've got some spares. >You'll also get some of the more blurred ones as well, cos I've got to get >rid of them somehow. If you do want a copy then let me know which one(s) >you particularly like and I'll do my best to accommodate everyone. > >Mike Dave Berry, www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~daveb